The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1789 - Tom Papa

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00:00:14.000 Oh, hi, Tom.

00:00:15.000 Oh, good to see you, Joe.

00:00:17.000 You are the man that brings the bags.

00:00:20.000 You bring the brown paper bags.

00:00:22.000 Joe, I was so happy to bring you bread that I was in Colorado doing shows Flew home, had my wife feed the starter.

00:00:32.000 I should have come right here.

00:00:34.000 Feed the starter.

00:00:35.000 But I wouldn't have been able to bring you bread, so I flew home.

00:00:38.000 This is so sick.

00:00:39.000 I flew home just for 24 hours so I could bake the bread and then get back on a plane and bring it to you.

00:00:46.000 But I feel like you haven't had it in so long.

00:00:49.000 You're the only one I'll eat bread from.

00:00:50.000 I know.

00:00:51.000 No, I'm lying.

00:00:52.000 I had a piece of bread this Saturday after the fights.

00:00:56.000 I did have a piece of bread with butter.

00:00:58.000 It's pretty damn good.

00:01:00.000 Well, I'm happy to do it.

00:01:04.000 I made one regular loaf.

00:01:06.000 I'm not sure which is which, but one regular loaf and one olive loaf, which has green and kalamata olives, lemon zest, and herbs de Provence.

00:01:16.000 And I hadn't made that in probably a year.

00:01:20.000 And the house was just filled with the smell of the bread.

00:01:24.000 It was so great.

00:01:26.000 And then flying here, the only thing in my carry-on was bread.

00:01:30.000 Wow.

00:01:31.000 Because it baked yesterday.

00:01:32.000 Here, I'll let you open it with your hands.

00:01:34.000 Oh my goodness.

00:01:37.000 If Jamie could get a piece of it, he would probably.

00:01:41.000 Did TSA check that hard?

00:01:43.000 It smells so good, it filled my hotel room up.

00:01:46.000 You could bake fentanyl in there.

00:01:49.000 Let me see which one that is.

00:01:50.000 Does that have olives on it?

00:01:51.000 Yeah.

00:01:52.000 It's an olive one.

00:01:52.000 Doesn't that smell beautiful?

00:01:54.000 It does.

00:01:55.000 It's so dense.

00:01:56.000 Yeah.

00:01:56.000 It's a pretty heavy bread.

00:01:57.000 I was reading about a woman who got caught at the border.

00:02:00.000 She's a pregnant lady. 1.00

00:02:03.000 Yeah.

00:02:03.000 And she had a rubber container filled with fentanyl stuffed up her cooch.

00:02:09.000 Oh! 0.60

00:02:09.000 What? 0.60

00:02:10.000 Yeah.

00:02:10.000 Oh my god.

00:02:11.000 Which, you know, that stuff kills you if it's just a small amount.

00:02:15.000 Jeez. 0.85

00:02:16.000 She had enough to kill everyone she's ever met. 1.00

00:02:18.000 Oh my god.

00:02:19.000 What is fentanyl?

00:02:20.000 That's...

00:02:20.000 It's an opioid.

00:02:22.000 It's an opioid that is highly, highly potent.

00:02:27.000 It's like hundreds of times more potent than heroin, I believe.

00:02:31.000 The amount of fentanyl that kills you is so small.

00:02:34.000 There it is. 1.00

00:02:35.000 Pregnant drug runner nabs smuggling fentanyl in her vagina. 1.00

00:02:39.000 Like an eggplant? 1.00

00:02:42.000 Oh, it's like in a condom. 0.76

00:02:44.000 Yeah, she wrapped it in a condom. 0.81

00:02:47.000 Just say no to drugs on the...

00:02:49.000 How did they discover that?

00:02:51.000 They fingered her. 0.88

00:02:52.000 Well, that's a random search.

00:02:55.000 Yeah, that is an interesting question.

00:02:57.000 Right?

00:02:57.000 Like, how did you pick that person out of the line?

00:02:59.000 She voluntarily removed it.

00:03:01.000 Because she's waddling through security? 0.98

00:03:03.000 19 years old and pregnant.

00:03:06.000 19-year-old U.S. citizen was flagged for secondary inspection.

00:03:09.000 Poor girl. 1.00

00:03:10.000 Why is she faced with that? 0.99

00:03:12.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, she's fucking in a terrible situation. 1.00

00:03:15.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.98

00:03:17.000 Just gingerly walking through security.

00:03:21.000 It says, oh, a canine dog alerted. 1.00

00:03:25.000 Dog's barking at her pussy. 1.00

00:03:27.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

00:03:28.000 Oh, it's terrible.

00:03:30.000 Oh, no.

00:03:30.000 Fentanyl.

00:03:31.000 Well, I felt pretty...

00:03:33.000 Pretty high risk coming with the bread.

00:03:36.000 It's literally my wheelie bag and these two big loaves of bread.

00:03:39.000 You just smell it.

00:03:40.000 Did people ask you?

00:03:42.000 No, they didn't open it.

00:03:43.000 They didn't open it.

00:03:44.000 No?

00:03:44.000 You look like a safe guy.

00:03:46.000 Right.

00:03:47.000 I should be getting fentanyl in my wheelie bag.

00:03:50.000 I thought that I was looking forward to it.

00:03:53.000 I wanted the story of them going through the bread and being like, it's sourdough.

00:03:59.000 Imagine if they cut it open, though.

00:04:00.000 Ooh. 0.98

00:04:01.000 Oh, you monsters. 0.97

00:04:03.000 You know what? 0.96

00:04:04.000 That's a pretty good smuggling technique.

00:04:07.000 Just sneak stuff in the bread.

00:04:09.000 Right.

00:04:09.000 When you're putting in the olives, also put in the whatever.

00:04:12.000 Right.

00:04:12.000 If you could have something that's got good thermal dynamics that you could put in the center of the dough.

00:04:18.000 Is that the right word?

00:04:19.000 Thermal dynamics?

00:04:20.000 Sure.

00:04:20.000 Something like withstand heat.

00:04:21.000 Right.

00:04:22.000 In the center of it.

00:04:23.000 You have to bake it.

00:04:24.000 Sometimes screw down metal container that's like insulated.

00:04:29.000 Uh-huh.

00:04:30.000 Shove it in there.

00:04:31.000 What is this?

00:04:32.000 Oh my God.

00:04:33.000 Look at these people smuggling booze and bread.

00:04:36.000 Oh, but that's like a loaf of bread.

00:04:38.000 Is that like at a stadium when they're going to see a game or something?

00:04:41.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:04:42.000 You know, when I worked as a...

00:04:45.000 As security guard, we used to always catch people smuggling booze into concerts.

00:04:50.000 Great Woods.

00:04:51.000 That was at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.

00:04:53.000 It's in Mansfield, Massachusetts.

00:04:55.000 And we would have garbage bales, like these big plastic garbage cans filled with booze at the end of the night.

00:05:03.000 No kidding.

00:05:04.000 Because so many people brought booze, and we'd have to search their bags, and we'd have to take the booze, and we'd just put it in their bucket.

00:05:11.000 And then we got to take it home.

00:05:13.000 They would just give us the booze. 1.00

00:05:15.000 There's that thing in O'Hare.

00:05:17.000 You've heard of that pot thing?

00:05:19.000 Yeah, you get to chuck the pot in there.

00:05:21.000 Yeah, you got to chuck your pot in there. 0.72

00:05:22.000 That's in Vegas, too.

00:05:24.000 Oh, yeah?

00:05:25.000 On Chicago's, it's inside the security line, though.

00:05:28.000 Right.

00:05:29.000 Like, you're already past security, and then the amnesty bin is there.

00:05:33.000 Right.

00:05:34.000 So it's like, if you got past it, now you're thinking...

00:05:36.000 Oh, it's up to you?

00:05:39.000 Your free will?

00:05:41.000 Well, it depends on where you're landing, right?

00:05:42.000 Because, first of all, nowhere where you land do they check you when you land.

00:05:46.000 Never. 0.99

00:05:47.000 You've got to be a real piece of shit for them to check you when you land. 1.00

00:05:53.000 Pull that fucking guy off the plane! 1.00

00:05:57.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:05:57.000 If they're checking you, you're already on the plane. 1.00

00:06:00.000 You made it through security.

00:06:01.000 You got on the plane.

00:06:03.000 You flew somewhere.

00:06:04.000 Yeah, and just completely act like a maniac in the sky, and then they flag you.

00:06:08.000 I had a guy yesterday.

00:06:10.000 I'm waiting to board last night to come, and a guy comes up, and he just pulls his mask down, just big beard, and he's just like...

00:06:21.000 How's it going?

00:06:22.000 Why aren't we boarding?

00:06:24.000 I'm like, you know, I was just being friendly.

00:06:26.000 I'm like, you know, the pilot's waiting for the whatever.

00:06:29.000 And it just becomes clear he's drunk.

00:06:32.000 He's just hammered.

00:06:35.000 Hammered.

00:06:35.000 And he starts talking about comedy.

00:06:37.000 And he's saying it's so loud.

00:06:39.000 You just low-key it.

00:06:40.000 Did he know who you were?

00:06:42.000 Yeah.

00:06:42.000 And I'm just like, let's just get on the plane.

00:06:45.000 No, man.

00:06:46.000 Tell me.

00:06:47.000 Like, who's your favorite comedian?

00:06:52.000 All time.

00:06:54.000 Dude.

00:06:55.000 Jerry Lewis.

00:06:59.000 He wouldn't stop.

00:07:00.000 And then he does, and I'm being nice, and he's peppering me with questions, and at a point I was like, okay, I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, I'm just tired, let's just...

00:07:09.000 Let's just get on.

00:07:10.000 And he's like, oh, my bad.

00:07:12.000 My bad.

00:07:12.000 That's okay.

00:07:13.000 I'm like, it's okay.

00:07:15.000 And I asked him something about himself.

00:07:17.000 I didn't want to think I'm just, like, ghosting him.

00:07:20.000 And he had this very, like, kind of little sad story that he's telling.

00:07:23.000 And then he's like, they go, okay, we're boarding group one.

00:07:27.000 He's like, let's go.

00:07:28.000 And I'm like, we're a team now.

00:07:30.000 I'm like, why are we a team?

00:07:32.000 And he goes, I'm not group one, but I do this all the time.

00:07:37.000 And he goes up and he gives the woman, the gate agent, his thing.

00:07:42.000 And she gives it back and then goes, John, John.

00:07:45.000 And he starts picking up speed to get into the gate.

00:07:49.000 And she goes, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:07:50.000 You're group three.

00:07:51.000 You have to go back.

00:07:52.000 And he's like, ah.

00:07:54.000 And he goes back.

00:07:55.000 He just totally knew this is how he operates.

00:07:58.000 A lot of people do that.

00:07:59.000 They try to sneak in.

00:08:00.000 It's so gross.

00:08:01.000 I've seen that multiple times. 0.71

00:08:02.000 It's so gross.

00:08:03.000 Yeah.

00:08:03.000 It's a weird move.

00:08:04.000 It is a weird move.

00:08:06.000 Yeah.

00:08:06.000 And then just, you know, why are you special?

00:08:09.000 It's like kindergarten cutting.

00:08:11.000 Well, people panic when there's a line.

00:08:13.000 It's almost like they think they're not going to get let on.

00:08:15.000 Right.

00:08:16.000 It's like, I got to get on that plane now.

00:08:17.000 Right.

00:08:18.000 They're not going to let me on.

00:08:19.000 Everyone's getting on.

00:08:20.000 Everyone's getting on.

00:08:21.000 You'll be fine.

00:08:23.000 Do you want to sit in your seat that much longer?

00:08:25.000 I mean, who cares?

00:08:26.000 Flying freaks people the fuck out, man.

00:08:28.000 How many people get drunk?

00:08:29.000 I mean, it's one of the weird places where you could drink at 8 in the morning.

00:08:31.000 Oh.

00:08:32.000 You go to the airport, they have booze there.

00:08:33.000 On the flight, they have booze.

00:08:35.000 Everybody's drinking.

00:08:36.000 Everybody's getting hammered.

00:08:38.000 Isn't it strange that they give you a drug?

00:08:39.000 They give you a drug.

00:08:40.000 It's scary, especially if you don't fly all the time.

00:08:42.000 Like a lot of these people, this is probably their one flight of the year, you know?

00:08:46.000 If that.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, and freaked out.

00:08:48.000 And they're getting on there and they're sweaty and nervous.

00:08:50.000 Give me something.

00:08:51.000 Right, but it's also, it's weird that there's a very specific drug that you're allowed to consume and they'll provide it for you.

00:08:57.000 Right.

00:08:58.000 They should be handing out edibles at the end of security.

00:09:01.000 You haven't been to the golf course at 7.30.

00:09:01.000 What?

00:09:02.000 You haven't been to the golf course at 7.30 in the morning.

00:09:04.000 Oh yeah, but that's not because they're worried you're nervous.

00:09:08.000 Well, there's just a bunch of drunks driving around in carts and with weapons and... 0.99

00:09:14.000 A golf club is kind of a weapon, but that's a weapon like your car's a weapon.

00:09:19.000 It's not a weapon on magnets.

00:09:19.000 You should see the videos.

00:09:21.000 There's some wild shit that happens on golf courses. 0.99

00:09:23.000 People get in fights with golf clubs? 0.99

00:09:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:25.000 Oh, really?

00:09:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:27.000 There's some crazy videos. 0.99

00:09:28.000 People, because they're talking shit, and I'm like, there's also a group in front of you. 1.00

00:09:31.000 If they're fucking with your play, and then all of a sudden someone mouths off. 1.00

00:09:34.000 Start hitting up on them. 0.99

00:09:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:09:35.000 You got four, eight dudes fighting, basically.

00:09:37.000 Yeah, people get very tense about a guy in front of them that's going slow.

00:09:41.000 Yes.

00:09:41.000 Is that the thing?

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 Or the guy behind them.

00:09:44.000 Going too fast.

00:09:45.000 Or if they're rushing.

00:09:46.000 Because it was a big hold up.

00:09:48.000 The group behind having a lot of fun.

00:09:49.000 The one guy's there all the time. 1.00

00:09:50.000 Just loud, drunk as shit. 1.00

00:09:52.000 Having a good time. 1.00

00:09:53.000 Eight beers deep. 0.99

00:09:54.000 But like, hey man, shut the F up. 0.99

00:09:58.000 Like, we're out here. 0.99

00:09:58.000 We're having a good time. 0.99

00:09:59.000 We're involved with you.

00:10:01.000 Right.

00:10:02.000 I don't know what you're supposed to do.

00:10:03.000 Now, when you have like a fancy place, like you go to a fancy place, right?

00:10:06.000 Yeah.

00:10:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:06.000 They're supposed to be able to call a guy, and they're supposed to come out and be the mediator.

00:10:10.000 What if that guy's like some oil baron son?

00:10:13.000 100%. 1.00

00:10:14.000 That kind of shit happens? 1.00

00:10:15.000 Right. 1.00

00:10:16.000 Good luck.

00:10:17.000 Annoying.

00:10:18.000 Good luck.

00:10:19.000 I did a show in Colorado, and there was some flight attendants in the front row, and they came up at the end when I was signing books, and they wanted to talk about...

00:10:31.000 Because I talk about...

00:10:32.000 Oh, I have a line in my act about...

00:10:38.000 What it is to be a good person now, the bar has been really lowered.

00:10:41.000 If you get on an airplane and don't punch a flight attendant straight in the face, you're a pretty good guy.

00:10:47.000 And they came up and wanted to talk about the stories and stuff about how insane this last year has been.

00:10:53.000 Sure, because you're trying to get people, first of all, just to sit down and buckle their seatbelt and not lean their seat back is hard. 0.99

00:11:00.000 Now you've got to get them to keep their fucking masks on. 0.99

00:11:03.000 The masks on and no alcohol for a long time. 1.00

00:11:07.000 She said her daughter worked for JetBlue and she got in a physical altercation on JetBlue, her daughter.

00:11:14.000 And yeah, she said, I think that they're going to stop the masks on the planes pretty soon just because of that, just because it's going to calm everybody down.

00:11:25.000 My favorite video was a lady with no mask screaming at a man to put a mask on. 1.00

00:11:31.000 She was just a person on the plane.

00:11:34.000 She wasn't even a lady who worked for the airline. 1.00

00:11:37.000 She was just screaming, and then she smacks him in the head. 0.99

00:11:39.000 Have you seen that video?

00:11:40.000 No.

00:11:41.000 She wound up getting arrested, but she was just, I don't know if she was on drugs or what. 0.84

00:11:45.000 You don't know what you're dealing with.

00:11:46.000 You don't know who's on what. 1.00

00:11:48.000 She goes, you're a real piece of shit. 1.00

00:11:49.000 And she smacks him in the head. 1.00

00:11:51.000 Oh my god.

00:11:51.000 And he's like an older guy.

00:11:53.000 And I guess she told him, put you...

00:11:55.000 Because one of the things that happened over the last year and a half is that people really enjoy telling you to put your mask on.

00:12:02.000 Because you kind of have to listen.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:04.000 Right.

00:12:04.000 You know when someone says, put a mask on, you're like...

00:12:07.000 You have to.

00:12:08.000 It's a thing. 1.00

00:12:09.000 If you're not wearing it, you can't say fuck you. 1.00

00:12:13.000 If you say fuck you, then you're on YouTube and then it's a real problem. 1.00

00:12:17.000 I mean, look, you got people to do it at all is pretty remarkable because people, you know, they don't know what they're doing. 1.00

00:12:25.000 The move I see at the gate all the time is older people You know, these poor people, they can't breathe without, like, anything on their face. 1.00

00:12:33.000 They're struggling.

00:12:34.000 And the number of times I see them pull the mask down and cough into the air and then put it back up.

00:12:43.000 They don't even cover with it.

00:12:45.000 Totally.

00:12:46.000 I can't breathe.

00:12:46.000 I'm telling you, I've seen that so many times.

00:12:49.000 I saw jujitsu classes where people had masks on.

00:12:53.000 Really? 1.00

00:12:54.000 It's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

00:12:55.000 You're breathing heavy, you're on top of each other, you're sweating on each other, and you got a stupid surgical mask on which doesn't do a goddamn thing. 1.00

00:13:06.000 It's a struggle. 1.00

00:13:08.000 People lost their fucking minds. 1.00

00:13:10.000 They lost their fucking minds over the last two years. 1.00

00:13:12.000 Totally. 1.00

00:13:12.000 Think about how many people were already on anti-anxiety medication, already fucked before that. 1.00

00:13:18.000 I know. 0.76

00:13:19.000 And then you put this stressful situation on top of them.

00:13:21.000 Yeah.

00:13:22.000 It's a lot.

00:13:23.000 It's a heavy load.

00:13:24.000 It's a heavy load.

00:13:25.000 And people's ability to take a new form of stress into an already stressful life.

00:13:31.000 Very hard for a lot of folks.

00:13:33.000 Really hard.

00:13:34.000 And, you know...

00:13:36.000 I can't believe...

00:13:37.000 Like when I go to do shows and you see these people that are coming out and, you know, they've got families and they're out looking for laughs.

00:13:45.000 Like they're back wanting to do stuff again.

00:13:47.000 It's like...

00:13:49.000 I said to a couple shows, I was like, your kids won't say it, but I'll say it.

00:13:53.000 I'm proud of you.

00:13:54.000 I don't know what you did, but you did it.

00:13:56.000 You got through these two years of weirdness and keeping your family safe and that you're out just getting a drink and trying to have some laughs.

00:14:03.000 Good on you.

00:14:04.000 That's not a small thing that we did.

00:14:06.000 That was a big deal, especially in the beginning when you're like, are we...

00:14:09.000 Is everyone going to die from this?

00:14:11.000 Right, is everyone going to die?

00:14:11.000 Are we all going to...

00:14:13.000 March of 2020, remember those days?

00:14:15.000 Yeah!

00:14:16.000 You were like, this could be way worse than they're telling us.

00:14:18.000 Right, exactly.

00:14:19.000 Remember those videos from China?

00:14:21.000 Yes!

00:14:22.000 When they were bolting people in their houses and spraying disinfectant through the streets, you remember those days?

00:14:28.000 Yes, and all of a sudden, New York was just quiet.

00:14:31.000 I mean, that was not a...

00:14:33.000 We got through... 0.98

00:14:34.000 Human beings get through shit, but when you look back, it's like, Whew! 0.99

00:14:37.000 Okay, that was really a thing. 0.99

00:14:39.000 It was really a thing.

00:14:40.000 So, you know, that you were able to muddle through it, great.

00:14:43.000 If it sent you off, I totally get that, too.

00:14:47.000 I totally get it, too.

00:14:48.000 I just don't know how, when someone gets sent off, how do you bring them back?

00:14:52.000 Like, how do you bring people back to, like, calm, normal after they went haywire?

00:14:58.000 Yeah, it just kind of, I don't know.

00:15:00.000 It depends the degree, right?

00:15:02.000 It just depends.

00:15:03.000 You just have to have that thing of just...

00:15:05.000 You just got to keep on getting on, you know?

00:15:07.000 I remember my grandparents who, like, went through all of the original troubles.

00:15:11.000 They just always had the mentality of, like, yeah, big deal.

00:15:15.000 I know.

00:15:15.000 Life is hard.

00:15:17.000 So, you want a tuna sandwich?

00:15:18.000 What's going on?

00:15:19.000 The people that went through the Depression.

00:15:21.000 The Depression and the Second World War.

00:15:24.000 You know, you just kind of muddle through.

00:15:26.000 It all comes down to just doing your little task and going forward and trying to stay...

00:15:31.000 Positive.

00:15:31.000 It's like in the doing, like the small of the little doing keeps you focused rather than the big overwhelming.

00:15:37.000 Well, being able to see, you know, big picture.

00:15:39.000 There's a funny meme that I saw online that Sam Tripoli posted on his Instagram.

00:15:44.000 Find that.

00:15:45.000 It shows the galaxy and the escape of the galaxy and then it points to an arrow and then you are here crying in the shower on the way to work.

00:15:56.000 Right.

00:15:57.000 Crying in the shower before work.

00:15:58.000 Right.

00:15:59.000 That's it right there.

00:16:00.000 Right.

00:16:00.000 You are here crying in the shower before work.

00:16:03.000 Just wake the fuck up. 0.99

00:16:04.000 Right, exactly. 0.81

00:16:05.000 How great is that meme?

00:16:06.000 That's amazing.

00:16:07.000 I love the internet.

00:16:08.000 The fact that these memes exist, it's a totally new kind of comedy.

00:16:13.000 When it says, we are the universe experience itself having an existential crisis.

00:16:17.000 Carl Sagan.

00:16:17.000 That is great.

00:16:19.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.000 Perspective.

00:16:21.000 Perspective.

00:16:21.000 That's the biggest thing.

00:16:22.000 It's hard.

00:16:23.000 It is hard.

00:16:24.000 There's an old expression.

00:16:25.000 I've said it many times.

00:16:26.000 I'll say it again.

00:16:27.000 But the hardest thing that's ever happened to you is the hardest thing that's ever happened to you.

00:16:31.000 It doesn't matter if it's a tiny little thing.

00:16:33.000 Like when my daughter was four and she couldn't find her toy and she started freaking out.

00:16:38.000 I'm like, listen, we're going to find it.

00:16:41.000 It's not that big a deal.

00:16:42.000 It's a big deal!

00:16:43.000 I can't find Lammy!

00:16:45.000 But it was a big deal to a four-year-old, right?

00:16:48.000 Sure.

00:16:48.000 Because she hasn't really had, you know, now she's 11. If the same thing happened, she'd be like, I can't find my tour.

00:16:54.000 I'm like, well, let's look for it.

00:16:56.000 Okay.

00:16:57.000 Like, you know, she's got a little resolved now.

00:16:59.000 That's right.

00:17:00.000 Experienced a little life.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, you got through it.

00:17:02.000 I know. 0.99

00:17:03.000 Some people are fucking... 1.00

00:17:04.000 They've taken no chances. 1.00

00:17:07.000 They've played it safe their entire life.

00:17:10.000 They don't understand it.

00:17:11.000 They've never done anything that's really dangerous.

00:17:14.000 Right. 1.00

00:17:14.000 So when a form of adversity like COVID came along, or this fucking war, this shit is scaring the fuck out of me. 1.00

00:17:22.000 So scary. 1.00

00:17:23.000 So scary.

00:17:24.000 And that's kind of the thing of going about your day.

00:17:27.000 It's like...

00:17:29.000 You check in and you look at it, and it's like, oh, it's too much.

00:17:32.000 I was reading an article today where they were talking about Putin's options.

00:17:36.000 He has almost no options.

00:17:38.000 Which is terrifying.

00:17:40.000 Terrifying, because he could do something crazy.

00:17:42.000 Exactly.

00:17:43.000 I know.

00:17:44.000 Yeah.

00:17:44.000 If he decided to do something crazy, like if he decides to send one nuke into Ukraine and kills 100,000 people, 200,000 people, 300,000 people, what do we do?

00:17:55.000 Are we supposed to nuke him now?

00:17:56.000 That's the dangerous thing.

00:17:57.000 It's like, so you choke him out, and all the sanctions are taking effect, and okay, so you turn him back, and so, I mean, all right, so you defeat him.

00:18:07.000 Ultimately, what does that mean to a guy that has the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet?

00:18:14.000 How does he save face?

00:18:17.000 I don't think he does.

00:18:18.000 And pull out?

00:18:19.000 What does it say?

00:18:21.000 Or does he just take it, and everybody lives with him having taken it?

00:18:24.000 The world's nuclear-armed states possess a combined total of nearly 13,080 nuclear warheads.

00:18:30.000 More than 90% belong to Russia and the United States.

00:18:33.000 Yeah, but look, Russia has more.

00:18:34.000 Approximately 9,600 warheads, is that true?

00:18:38.000 Do they have more than us?

00:18:39.000 Russia has 6,257, we have 5,550.

00:18:42.000 Oh my god, I thought we had more.

00:18:44.000 No.

00:18:45.000 I thought that we had more nuclear power.

00:18:50.000 I thought, like, the power of our weapons was greater than the power of Russia's weapons. 0.79

00:18:54.000 I do know when I was looking something up about that...

00:18:57.000 We were talking about the suitcase bomb the other day.

00:18:59.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 And I was digging through articles about that, trying to find out the accuracy.

00:19:03.000 There's a lot of claims being made over certain time periods of, like, we heard through intelligence that they now have 200...

00:19:10.000 They made 250 of these, so...

00:19:12.000 You have to have proof of that.

00:19:13.000 I don't think they're showing them, they're boxes of them, you know.

00:19:16.000 They're like saying they just had new ones.

00:19:18.000 The nuclear football thing, or the nuclear briefcase thing, was always a thing that got discussed.

00:19:23.000 I thought that our...

00:19:24.000 I guess it doesn't matter, right? 1.00

00:19:27.000 If one nuclear bomb goes to Russia and they launch all their shit at us, it kills the whole world multiple times over. 0.99

00:19:34.000 But I was under the impression, I believe I read something, that the power of the United States nuclear arsenal Was larger than the power of the Russian arsenal. 0.99

00:19:43.000 Maybe I confuse that to numbers of bombs.

00:19:45.000 I don't know.

00:19:46.000 It's all terrifying.

00:19:47.000 It's so scary.

00:19:48.000 And I just, I don't know, like, what his, like, what's his endgame?

00:19:52.000 Like, if there's 40 million people in Ukraine, like, how do you just take, like...

00:19:57.000 Well, how did he do it in the first place?

00:19:59.000 Like, imagine, like, us, like, the United States invading Rhode Island.

00:20:04.000 You know?

00:20:05.000 Right. 1.00

00:20:05.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:20:06.000 If they actually went out and did that. 1.00

00:20:08.000 And that's, it's a lot bigger than Rhode Island, right?

00:20:10.000 It's like, there's more people in Ukraine.

00:20:12.000 Like, how many people are in Ukraine?

00:20:14.000 40 million?

00:20:15.000 Is it really that many?

00:20:16.000 Yeah, it's a lot of people.

00:20:18.000 So that's like California.

00:20:19.000 That's like if Washington, D.C. invaded California.

00:20:23.000 Like if the Pentagon invaded California.

00:20:25.000 It's so horrible.

00:20:27.000 And what's so bizarre is you're watching war on your phone.

00:20:30.000 Like you're seeing footage of this stuff.

00:20:33.000 High resolution footage because people filmed it off of their phones.

00:20:36.000 And you think about those kind of wars.

00:20:38.000 It's like we're used to those grainy black and white...

00:20:41.000 Images of those kind of a war.

00:20:43.000 And now you see people in like puffy jackets that your family wears and with their cell phones and that one horrible picture of the family of four just on the sidewalk, just dead.

00:20:56.000 And it was just...

00:20:57.000 It's horrible.

00:20:58.000 Yeah, I saw horrible video footage of an apartment building that had been blown up and there was these like old ladies wearing like old lady coats. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Yeah.

00:21:07.000 You know, like they look like your regular old Ukrainian old lady just hanging out.

00:21:12.000 A month ago?

00:21:12.000 Blown apart.

00:21:13.000 Like legs missing, blood everywhere.

00:21:16.000 Nightmare.

00:21:17.000 How do you just do that?

00:21:18.000 Just go in and just...

00:21:20.000 It's horrible.

00:21:21.000 So I don't know.

00:21:23.000 That's what I keep looking for.

00:21:25.000 Is those articles, I'm like, oh, so what's the endgame?

00:21:28.000 Like, what is the end of this?

00:21:30.000 Right.

00:21:31.000 Hey, it's terrifying.

00:21:33.000 So this thing about what Russia's offered Ukraine, I was listening to Sagar and Crystal from Breaking Points talking about it this morning.

00:21:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:21:44.000 And apparently Russia's demands are that they recognize Crimea as being Russian, but I think they also want Ukraine to demilitarize itself, which is like hilariously crazy, because you just attacked us.

00:22:01.000 Imagine you saying, hey, I know we just attacked you, we want you to get rid of all your weapons, and we won't do it again.

00:22:07.000 Like what?

00:22:08.000 Right.

00:22:09.000 And also, if your president dies, we want to put a president in.

00:22:14.000 Oh my God.

00:22:16.000 He's a comedian.

00:22:17.000 Yeah.

00:22:19.000 The president of Ukraine played a president on television on a show a few years ago and then ran for president and won.

00:22:27.000 Genius.

00:22:28.000 Kevin Spacey should have tried that.

00:22:30.000 Yeah.

00:22:32.000 Yeah.

00:22:33.000 He's a tough guy, man.

00:22:34.000 He's just in the...

00:22:35.000 They made an attempt at his life.

00:22:38.000 Three attempts.

00:22:39.000 Three?

00:22:40.000 Yeah, apparently they've made three attempts at his life.

00:22:43.000 Oh my god.

00:22:43.000 But there was also like a Chechen hit team that came, like a whole squad of Chechens that they came into Ukraine to try to get him and try to...

00:22:55.000 And then they got...

00:22:57.000 See, it's so hard to say what's true and what's not true.

00:23:00.000 Yeah.

00:23:00.000 Because you're hearing about things like, I heard that the nuclear power plant got bombed.

00:23:06.000 They attacked the nuclear power plant.

00:23:07.000 And then they said, actually it wasn't.

00:23:09.000 It was a building next to the nuclear power plant.

00:23:12.000 Right, caught on fire.

00:23:13.000 No, they attacked it.

00:23:14.000 Oh, they did?

00:23:15.000 Yeah, they attacked a building that was near the nuclear power plant.

00:23:19.000 So it wasn't the actual power plant.

00:23:21.000 It was a building near it.

00:23:22.000 Right.

00:23:22.000 So it's like, you hear about all these things and it takes a day or two to find out what's true and what's not true.

00:23:28.000 At least we're finding something out.

00:23:30.000 Russia's locked down.

00:23:31.000 They don't even know what's going on.

00:23:32.000 He's shut down everything.

00:23:34.000 Is that what happened?

00:23:35.000 Yeah.

00:23:35.000 They have no access to any news.

00:23:38.000 They're saying that they're not even aware of what's happening, the Russian people.

00:23:42.000 I wonder how the system works there in terms of if Biden wanted to deploy nuclear weapons...

00:23:51.000 I'm sure there's a series of checks and balances that have to go into play before that happens.

00:23:55.000 It has to be approved by somebody.

00:23:56.000 Right.

00:23:56.000 I wonder what the situation is in Russia.

00:23:59.000 I don't know.

00:24:00.000 And even whatever the system that is, what mistakes could be made?

00:24:04.000 They have more nuclear weapons than us.

00:24:07.000 And they got one guy who's already shown that he's willing to just invade a country that just a few decades ago was a part of the Soviet Union.

00:24:17.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 It was all a part of the same union.

00:24:20.000 And now you're bombing them. 1.00

00:24:21.000 You're killing them. 1.00

00:24:22.000 It's wild. 1.00

00:24:22.000 It's insane. 1.00

00:24:23.000 It's so scary.

00:24:24.000 It's the scariest time I could ever remember.

00:24:27.000 And I bet it must feel like to a lot of people what the Cuban Missile Crisis felt like.

00:24:31.000 Where it's like, Jesus, we're that close.

00:24:33.000 Yeah, like how far do we go?

00:24:36.000 When does this tip over?

00:24:38.000 Do you remember when you were a kid and we really thought we were going to go to war with Russia?

00:24:42.000 Yeah.

00:24:42.000 Do you remember those days?

00:24:43.000 I remember those days clearly.

00:24:45.000 Being in, I guess it was high school, and I was thinking, oh my god, we're going to go to war with Russia. 0.72

00:24:50.000 Yeah.

00:24:51.000 Rocky had to go against Drago.

00:24:54.000 That's right.

00:24:55.000 Rocky fought Drago.

00:24:57.000 When the US won in the Olympics in the hockey, that...

00:25:01.000 Oh, that's right.

00:25:02.000 I mean, the emotion of that was so crazy.

00:25:05.000 And it's hard to tell young people what that meant.

00:25:09.000 Like, oh, that's cool, you beat the Russians. 0.97

00:25:11.000 No.

00:25:11.000 It was at a fever pitch of just anxiety and almost war.

00:25:18.000 I mean, we were in a Cold War.

00:25:19.000 It was so big. 0.99

00:25:22.000 And now we're kind of like, what a dick. 1.00

00:25:25.000 What a dick. 1.00

00:25:26.000 We're coming out of COVID. It's all starting to feel hopeful. 0.99

00:25:31.000 And now, god damn. 0.99

00:25:33.000 What are you doing, man? 0.99

00:25:35.000 But you know, there was a lot going on there.

00:25:38.000 The idea was that Ukraine was trying to join NATO. And if they joined NATO, then NATO could park nuclear weapons at Russia.

00:25:48.000 At Russia's door. 0.95

00:25:49.000 From Ukraine.

00:25:50.000 Again, I'm not a foreign policy expert. 1.00

00:25:52.000 It's the shit I'm reading. 0.99

00:25:53.000 There's a lot of complicated things to it. 0.99

00:25:55.000 There's a video that we talked about a few podcasts ago, but it's really good.

00:26:00.000 It's explaining.

00:26:01.000 It's about 15 minutes, that video or so.

00:26:03.000 It's like a synopsis of what is going on with Russia and Ukraine, why Ukraine is so valuable.

00:26:10.000 One of the things is natural gas and oil.

00:26:13.000 It has a tremendous reserve of natural gas and oil, and that's one of the reasons why Russia invaded Crimea and took over Crimea.

00:26:21.000 That takes away some of the access to the waters where the oil and the natural gas are.

00:26:28.000 Okay.

00:26:29.000 Could they have done it a different way?

00:26:31.000 Could they have taken it over or made a deal or done something?

00:26:34.000 Dude, I don't know.

00:26:35.000 Is there some other way?

00:26:36.000 I don't know.

00:26:37.000 But the whole NATO thing is kind of crazy, too.

00:26:39.000 If NATO is invading and encroaching on Russia's space, if they're moving these countries into...

00:26:46.000 If they're making them join or having them join NATO, and then they actually would do that...

00:26:52.000 Park weapons next to Russia. 0.57

00:26:54.000 I had Dakota Meyer on the podcast, who's a veteran, who's got a famously insane story about some of his combat duty in war in Afghanistan. 1.00

00:27:07.000 Crazy shit. 0.99

00:27:08.000 But he was saying, imagine if another country like Russia or China parked nuclear weapons in Mexico. 1.00

00:27:14.000 And they're like, oh, yeah.

00:27:16.000 I mean, there's no justifying anything that Putin did. 0.99

00:27:20.000 What he's done is horrific and terrifying, and he's a legit maniac. 0.96

00:27:24.000 Yeah. 0.65

00:27:25.000 But you've got to wonder, like...

00:27:27.000 Yeah, there's something at play.

00:27:28.000 How many pieces are moving here?

00:27:30.000 Yeah.

00:27:31.000 And the humiliation, like the cultural humiliation that he was saying of Putin.

00:27:38.000 I mean, that's what Hitler was bred on after World War I. It was the humiliation.

00:27:44.000 We're going to regain this for ourselves.

00:27:48.000 That human emotion and a leader that drives them in these ways still exists.

00:27:53.000 Yeah, but I don't think the people are with Putin.

00:27:56.000 No, they're not.

00:27:56.000 That's why he's shutting everything down.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, I think it's a real bad move for him.

00:28:00.000 It seems so isolating, but that's what makes it even crazier, right?

00:28:05.000 So it's this one guy, so then he can do whatever he...

00:28:08.000 Like, there's no checks on him?

00:28:10.000 There's no...

00:28:11.000 You see that one when he's meeting with his people, and he's like on one end of this 50-foot table, and all his advisors sit down at the other end?

00:28:20.000 Really?

00:28:20.000 Did you see that picture?

00:28:21.000 No.

00:28:22.000 Yeah, Jamie, if you could find that picture of him talking to his advisors.

00:28:25.000 It's like he's isolated in very real ways.

00:28:29.000 It's terrifying.

00:28:30.000 He has to be.

00:28:31.000 I mean, they could not have wanted this.

00:28:34.000 If you play things out from where they first invade Ukraine, how does this end good? 0.95

00:28:40.000 Right.

00:28:41.000 What's the endgame?

00:28:42.000 They just give up?

00:28:43.000 They just give up and you occupy Ukraine? 0.91

00:28:45.000 They're going to be happy that you're there?

00:28:47.000 I mean, I've read how many official Russian soldiers have died.

00:28:53.000 It's in the hundreds.

00:28:55.000 But there's unofficial reports that it's far greater than that.

00:29:00.000 Oh my god, that's insane.

00:29:03.000 That's an insane photo.

00:29:04.000 That's him having his meeting with his people.

00:29:07.000 Why is he doing it like that?

00:29:08.000 They say that he got really wigged out by COVID. No.

00:29:12.000 He doesn't trust people.

00:29:14.000 Yeah.

00:29:14.000 No chance.

00:29:15.000 That's what they said, yeah.

00:29:17.000 So he stays that far away from people because of COVID? That's what he said.

00:29:20.000 Look at all the colorful food.

00:29:21.000 Looks delicious.

00:29:22.000 That's not a photoshopped idea.

00:29:23.000 Oh, someone filled the table up with food.

00:29:27.000 Someone filled the table up with a buffet.

00:29:29.000 That looks yummy.

00:29:30.000 That looks good.

00:29:31.000 Putin's long table explained why he puts some leaders including Germany Schultz at an extreme distance.

00:29:39.000 So it must be a COVID thing.

00:29:40.000 Click on that.

00:29:41.000 It's in Forbes.

00:29:43.000 Why he puts some... 1.00

00:29:44.000 Oh, you fuck. 1.00

00:29:46.000 $50 for a subscription. 1.00

00:29:48.000 Is that really what they're charging?

00:29:49.000 That's what it said.

00:29:50.000 $489.99.

00:29:51.000 Well, Forbes is a financial thing.

00:29:54.000 They have money.

00:29:54.000 This is why it's so scary.

00:29:58.000 It's like if Hitler had nukes, it's like, okay, so you can beat him in all these different ways. 0.91

00:30:04.000 Like you're saying the soldiers or this country turns out, or he gets just militarily defeated.

00:30:10.000 Right.

00:30:10.000 But he has this thing at the back of it.

00:30:13.000 He has this horrible weapons.

00:30:17.000 He's got that.

00:30:19.000 So if you break him and take him all the way to the end, he still has that.

00:30:24.000 That's the most terrifying.

00:30:26.000 So it says the distance from Schultz, and he refused to take a Russian-administered COVID-19 PCR test.

00:30:34.000 That's why.

00:30:35.000 So they put him at the end of the table.

00:30:38.000 But the fact that he has a crazy table like that.

00:30:42.000 It says, Putin is living in a strict health bubble, and the Kremlin confirmed the extreme distance is to protect Putin.

00:30:48.000 Wow.

00:30:49.000 Well, I guess when you poisoned a few folks, you get a little nervous about it.

00:30:52.000 Right.

00:30:53.000 I mean, imagine what he's done to his detractors, and then imagine how nerve-wracking it must be to be him.

00:30:59.000 And worry about, like, retaliation.

00:31:01.000 Yeah.

00:31:02.000 Like, he poisons doorknobs and shit. 0.99

00:31:04.000 Right. 1.00

00:31:04.000 When the people touch doorknobs and they get sick and die. 1.00

00:31:07.000 In different countries.

00:31:08.000 Yeah.

00:31:08.000 Did that in, like, was England, was it?

00:31:10.000 Yeah.

00:31:12.000 God.

00:31:13.000 So, what's the process for him launching nuclear weapons?

00:31:19.000 That's what I want to know.

00:31:20.000 Does he have to clear it with his generals?

00:31:22.000 I hope he has to talk to someone.

00:31:23.000 Because he's the top dog, right?

00:31:25.000 Yeah.

00:31:25.000 Do they share that with the world?

00:31:27.000 Yeah.

00:31:27.000 Probably not.

00:31:28.000 Good point.

00:31:29.000 This is what I want to know.

00:31:30.000 What, like, the amount of power, nuclear weapons that Russia has and the amount of nuclear weapons that America has, can't they blow up the whole world, kill all life, like, many times over? 0.90

00:31:45.000 Yes.

00:31:46.000 So you hope that's the deterrent.

00:31:48.000 Right.

00:31:49.000 Right.

00:31:49.000 Yeah.

00:31:50.000 But you don't want to, like, Scarface at the end. 1.00

00:31:52.000 Just like, fuck it. 1.00

00:31:53.000 I'm gonna take everything out. 1.00

00:31:55.000 If I go, we all go.

00:31:56.000 Yeah, a giant long table filled with coke.

00:31:59.000 Say hello to my little friend.

00:32:01.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:32:02.000 Like, also, how old is the guy?

00:32:03.000 I don't know.

00:32:04.000 He's, like, 69 years old.

00:32:06.000 And, uh, is he in great health?

00:32:09.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:32:10.000 I don't know.

00:32:12.000 I mean, we're all, you know, and then we've got China behind them, but we all kind of need each other for these economies to keep going.

00:32:19.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:32:21.000 It's all too scary and unknown.

00:32:22.000 This is why you go back to the thing of, like, my grandmother of, like, do you want a tuna sandwich?

00:32:28.000 Because it's too much.

00:32:30.000 Yeah.

00:32:30.000 It's too much.

00:32:31.000 Well, this is too much, but it's also too much where you go, this could go really bad, and how does it go good?

00:32:39.000 Like, how does it go good?

00:32:40.000 The only way it goes good is if Putin backs out.

00:32:43.000 And if he backs out, he looks weak.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, right.

00:32:45.000 Or if they surrender and give him Ukraine, but then does he stop?

00:32:51.000 Wait a minute.

00:32:52.000 They're not going to do that.

00:32:53.000 I'm just talking crazy scenarios of how it could end.

00:32:56.000 I guess, yeah, if they surrendered and gave Ukraine.

00:33:01.000 Or he takes it over and he just starts to occupy it and it becomes Syria. 0.61

00:33:05.000 But this is what I was reading.

00:33:06.000 What I was reading was they were saying that they're grossly underestimating the amount of human beings they would have to have in Ukraine to take over.

00:33:16.000 And they said it was probably in the neighborhood of 500,000.

00:33:20.000 Military?

00:33:21.000 Yes.

00:33:21.000 They would need 500,000 people to take over and run Ukraine.

00:33:26.000 God.

00:33:26.000 Because if you take over, you have to take over everything.

00:33:29.000 You gotta take over everything.

00:33:30.000 You gotta take over the military, you gotta take over all the political seats, unless they just go, you know what?

00:33:36.000 You guys are right.

00:33:37.000 We're gonna be Russians now.

00:33:39.000 Right.

00:33:39.000 We gave up.

00:33:39.000 We're not Ukrainian anymore.

00:33:40.000 That's not gonna happen.

00:33:41.000 Because then it becomes Syria, right? 0.98

00:33:43.000 It becomes this prolonged war within the country and just totally destroys everything in it.

00:33:50.000 It's nuts, man.

00:33:51.000 So crazy.

00:33:52.000 So how many times over can we blow up?

00:33:55.000 I am trying to find that out.

00:33:57.000 The best answer I've found now is how destructive are today's nuclear weapons?

00:34:02.000 I'm so scared.

00:34:03.000 Compared to the Hiroshima and Nagasaki ones, it says those were about 15 kilotons and 20 kilotons respectively.

00:34:11.000 Current estimations now of thermonuclear weapons yield about 100 kilotons of dynamite comparison.

00:34:20.000 That's just for one.

00:34:21.000 It says one kiloton nuclear weapon dropped on New York City could lead to roughly 583,000 fatalities.

00:34:29.000 So multiply that times...

00:34:33.000 10,000?

00:34:34.000 I think you could just say everybody.

00:34:36.000 Yeah, basically. 0.51

00:34:37.000 It would kill everybody.

00:34:38.000 Because you said Russia has 6,000 of them and we have 5,000 something?

00:34:42.000 Yeah, they have just over 6,000.

00:34:44.000 We have just under 6,000 estimated.

00:34:47.000 Do we have more power than them?

00:34:49.000 More nuclear destructive capability?

00:34:52.000 Again, that would then go into like, you know, we've shown videos of like a couple mega bombs.

00:34:57.000 Like, maybe I could have one that could, you know, take over 15 or 20 of theirs.

00:35:02.000 I don't know how many of those one we have.

00:35:04.000 Might only have one or two.

00:35:05.000 Right.

00:35:06.000 Save it for a real good day or whatever.

00:35:09.000 I don't know.

00:35:09.000 So you've just got to really hope that he doesn't want, that he loves Russia so much he doesn't want Russia to be obliterated.

00:35:18.000 The president of France.

00:35:20.000 Yeah.

00:35:20.000 What's his name?

00:35:21.000 Macron?

00:35:23.000 Is that how you say his name?

00:35:24.000 Yeah.

00:35:24.000 Macron?

00:35:25.000 Macron.

00:35:25.000 I was reading an article where he was saying that he met a very different Putin when he went to Moscow to talk to him about all this, and that Putin was just ranting and raving for hours and hours about history.

00:35:39.000 Right.

00:35:39.000 Which I don't like.

00:35:41.000 I don't like that either.

00:35:42.000 I don't like hearing that.

00:35:42.000 I don't like hearing that either.

00:35:44.000 Because if he's thinking that much about history, he might be thinking about leaving his mark.

00:35:47.000 Right.

00:35:48.000 You know?

00:35:49.000 Yes. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:35:51.000 Fuck him. 1.00

00:35:52.000 Yeah, fuck him for sure. 1.00

00:35:53.000 Fuck him. 1.00

00:35:54.000 I mean, no one's... 1.00

00:35:55.000 I don't think... 1.00

00:35:55.000 Even his own family's probably like, fuck him. 1.00

00:35:58.000 Right. 1.00

00:35:58.000 You know? 1.00

00:35:59.000 Yeah.

00:36:00.000 How does that guy stay safe?

00:36:01.000 Yeah, how do you stay safe?

00:36:03.000 And is there stuff at work of like, how do we get this guy?

00:36:07.000 Yeah.

00:36:08.000 I guarantee that somehow you get this guy.

00:36:12.000 Because it's down to that, right?

00:36:14.000 We're down to one guy.

00:36:15.000 Right.

00:36:16.000 If someone took him out, let's imagine it happens inside of Russia. 0.91

00:36:21.000 Some Russian military guy decides to take him out.

00:36:25.000 Yeah.

00:36:26.000 That seems like it's on the table.

00:36:28.000 I would imagine.

00:36:29.000 This is a crazy movie.

00:36:31.000 It is a crazy movie.

00:36:32.000 It's scaring me.

00:36:33.000 Yeah, I'm scared.

00:36:35.000 The only thing that's keeping me comfortable is spread.

00:36:37.000 Batman did a really good opening this weekend.

00:36:39.000 Maybe we send Batman.

00:36:40.000 Look at this.

00:36:41.000 Putin sends nearly 100% of Russian forces at border into Ukraine.

00:36:46.000 100% of the forces.

00:36:49.000 That means everybody that was lined up at the border.

00:36:51.000 He sent them all.

00:36:52.000 Oh, at border.

00:36:52.000 He sent them all in.

00:36:54.000 When everyone was watching all the people amassing and they're like, I don't know if he's going to do anything.

00:36:59.000 It says, but the United States does not believe that Russia is preparing to move additional battalion tactical groups from elsewhere into the country to shore up its troops in Ukraine.

00:37:08.000 This is today, Jamie?

00:37:09.000 Yeah.

00:37:10.000 I do not like his face.

00:37:11.000 His face bothers me.

00:37:13.000 Does it? 0.99

00:37:13.000 Well, it's the face of a killer. 0.99

00:37:14.000 Yeah.

00:37:15.000 Should bother you. 1.00

00:37:16.000 That's the last face you see before a knife gets rammed in your throat. 0.99

00:37:20.000 Ah, jeez.

00:37:22.000 I mean, realistically, how many guys do you think that man has watched die by his hand?

00:37:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:29.000 Oh, my God.

00:37:30.000 A lot.

00:37:31.000 Yeah.

00:37:31.000 There's a difference, right, between him and a guy like Biden?

00:37:35.000 Mm-hmm.

00:37:36.000 Telling stories about Corn Pop.

00:37:38.000 Corn Pop was a bad dude.

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:43.000 One of the things that I was saying- I love baseball.

00:37:46.000 It doesn't really apply to him because he's doing something terrible, but one of the things I was saying about the democratic process of electing a president, one thing that's weird is that- You're taking on the most important job in the world,

00:38:03.000 and you're new.

00:38:05.000 You're new on the job.

00:38:07.000 You only get four years to get good at it, and then, like in the case of Trump, they vote you out. 0.99

00:38:12.000 So now, you just start to get an understanding of how things work, how to make the fucking engine move smoothly, and get rid of you. 0.99

00:38:20.000 Whereas a guy like him... 0.99

00:38:22.000 He's been running Russia for decades.

00:38:24.000 I know.

00:38:24.000 And when you do that, if there's anything else you do, if you're a CEO of a company, if you run your own business, after a decade or two, you really know what you're doing.

00:38:35.000 Yeah, you get an idea of how to do it.

00:38:36.000 It's kind of weird, right?

00:38:37.000 Yeah.

00:38:38.000 That the most important job, everyone who does it, is new at it.

00:38:41.000 Right?

00:38:41.000 It is really weird.

00:38:43.000 You've got to be great immediately.

00:38:44.000 Yeah.

00:38:45.000 But the other option's terrible.

00:38:48.000 The other option is dictator.

00:38:49.000 Then you get Putin.

00:38:50.000 Right, exactly.

00:38:51.000 But the other thing with America is then you have what they refer to as the deep state.

00:38:56.000 Because really, you have the figurehead, who's Biden.

00:39:00.000 This is the best example we've ever had, because clearly he's declining.

00:39:05.000 And so the people around him, and the intelligence agencies, and the military, those are the people that are really calling the shots.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, that was like Bush also.

00:39:14.000 That was always the argument.

00:39:15.000 It was like, well, there's other people.

00:39:17.000 He's not really running the show.

00:39:19.000 Dick Cheney.

00:39:19.000 Right.

00:39:20.000 He's not really running the show.

00:39:21.000 Did you see that movie?

00:39:22.000 I did.

00:39:23.000 I didn't see it.

00:39:24.000 Still haven't seen it.

00:39:25.000 It's so good.

00:39:27.000 Is it?

00:39:28.000 His performance is so...

00:39:30.000 Christian Bale...

00:39:31.000 He's amazing.

00:39:32.000 Oh my...

00:39:33.000 Oh my God!

00:39:34.000 As I was watching it, I had just, not recently, but the last thing I saw him in was Ford vs.

00:39:41.000 Ferrari.

00:39:41.000 He was great in that, too.

00:39:42.000 He won the Oscar for it, I think, right?

00:39:44.000 He's all skinny with my buddy Matt.

00:39:47.000 I mean, just skinny.

00:39:49.000 And I remember talking to Matt, and he was talking about being on set with him.

00:39:54.000 He was so impressed.

00:39:56.000 And, I mean, he's been acting since he was a little kid, but he's so...

00:40:00.000 I could not believe I was watching him as Cheney and that this guy was Ford versus Ferrari.

00:40:05.000 It is crazy.

00:40:06.000 I mean, what he's able to do with his body, the transformations he puts himself through...

00:40:12.000 The eyes.

00:40:13.000 I mean, he changes inside.

00:40:15.000 That's the most insane thing.

00:40:18.000 It's not just like they put prosthetics on him or he wears a collared shirt.

00:40:21.000 There's something in his eyes, the way he talks, the way he moves.

00:40:25.000 I mean, he transforms.

00:40:29.000 And then what was the other one he did with Adam McKay with The Money, The Big Short?

00:40:34.000 Remember, he was the guy that figured out that the housing crisis was going to happen?

00:40:40.000 Right, right.

00:40:40.000 Everything he does.

00:40:42.000 Yeah.

00:40:43.000 What was he when he was a kid?

00:40:45.000 It was Empire, not Empire.

00:40:49.000 When he was a kid with John Malkovich.

00:40:51.000 Yeah.

00:40:53.000 A kid?

00:40:54.000 Spacing.

00:40:55.000 He was...

00:40:56.000 He was a child?

00:40:57.000 Empire of the Sun.

00:40:58.000 Empire of the Sun.

00:40:59.000 I don't remember that one.

00:41:00.000 Oh yeah, this is where he starred and he was great then.

00:41:03.000 How old was he?

00:41:03.000 He was like 12. Oh my god, that's him?

00:41:06.000 That's him.

00:41:07.000 With Steven Spielberg?

00:41:09.000 Wow!

00:41:10.000 He was so good, Joe.

00:41:11.000 That's Christian Bale as a 12-year-old?

00:41:13.000 Yes.

00:41:13.000 It looks like him.

00:41:14.000 Look at that.

00:41:14.000 Yes, that's him in a leading role as a 12-year-old.

00:41:19.000 And I'm telling you, he was amazing then.

00:41:23.000 This was not like...

00:41:25.000 Look, I put on a play in fifth grade where I played a Canadian Mountie.

00:41:33.000 It didn't come close to what this kid was doing in this movie.

00:41:37.000 Yeah, he does transform himself.

00:41:38.000 Like when he was the guy in American Psycho.

00:41:41.000 Yes.

00:41:42.000 Amazing.

00:41:43.000 100% hook, line, sinker, believed it.

00:41:46.000 Oh, my God.

00:41:47.000 And then The Machinist, which is one of the weirdest ones, the one when he lost all that weight.

00:41:52.000 Right.

00:41:53.000 That's when he played Dickie Ward.

00:41:55.000 Was it Mickey Ward's cousin?

00:41:57.000 Was it Dickie Eklund?

00:41:59.000 Is that his cousin?

00:42:00.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:01.000 Is that the guy's name that he played?

00:42:02.000 I don't remember the character's name, unfortunately, but I remember the movie for sure.

00:42:05.000 He's so good.

00:42:06.000 God.

00:42:07.000 I think it's Dickie Eklund.

00:42:08.000 Pull that up.

00:42:11.000 I want to say, I thought it was Mickey Ward's brother.

00:42:14.000 Not to sidetrack, but I played Colonel Doobetter in that play.

00:42:18.000 But he was great in that movie too, because in that...

00:42:22.000 Well, that's a different movie.

00:42:23.000 Yeah.

00:42:24.000 The fighter.

00:42:24.000 Yeah.

00:42:25.000 Oh my god.

00:42:26.000 The guy's...

00:42:26.000 Yeah, Dickie Eklund.

00:42:27.000 Yeah.

00:42:28.000 He's never swung and missed.

00:42:30.000 And he played this guy who, you know, we all in the boxing...

00:42:36.000 Like, look how...

00:42:37.000 Yeah.

00:42:37.000 I mean, he's a crack addict in real life.

00:42:40.000 And so the guy was, like, you know, in and out of trouble.

00:42:43.000 And he played this brother of Mickey Ward, who's this famous boxer.

00:42:49.000 And he just played this kind of, like...

00:42:51.000 You know, eccentric, crazy, drug addict, troubled brother. 0.97

00:42:58.000 Right. 1.00

00:42:58.000 And you fucking totally bought it. 1.00

00:42:59.000 I mean, that's Batman. 1.00

00:43:01.000 How crazy is that?

00:43:02.000 That's great.

00:43:02.000 That's right.

00:43:03.000 That's Batman.

00:43:04.000 That's right.

00:43:04.000 And by the way, the best Batman.

00:43:07.000 He was the best Batman.

00:43:08.000 He was the best.

00:43:09.000 The voice was a little goofy.

00:43:10.000 People are loving the new one.

00:43:12.000 People love the new one.

00:43:13.000 People love spam.

00:43:15.000 They love everything.

00:43:16.000 People love all kinds of...

00:43:17.000 They love TikTok.

00:43:21.000 Who is the new Batman?

00:43:25.000 Hayden Christensen?

00:43:27.000 Is that his name?

00:43:27.000 No, no, no, no.

00:43:28.000 Robert Pattinson.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, Pattinson.

00:43:30.000 The guy from Twilight.

00:43:31.000 He's the vampire.

00:43:32.000 Oh, right, right.

00:43:33.000 Girls loved him as a vampire.

00:43:34.000 Yes.

00:43:35.000 You know, this is a very controversial thing because he really wasn't into working out to be Batman.

00:43:39.000 So he's like the least convincing physical presence as Batman.

00:43:45.000 Really?

00:43:45.000 He wouldn't work out?

00:43:46.000 I'm sure he did a little something, but he didn't work out like Christian Bale worked out.

00:43:52.000 Christian Bale as Batman, he looked like an MMA fighter.

00:43:55.000 He was jacked.

00:43:56.000 Like that.

00:43:57.000 Robert Pattinson.

00:43:58.000 I mean, I guess he's in shape. 0.98

00:44:00.000 They probably photoshopped the shit out of that. 0.98

00:44:02.000 Right. 0.98

00:44:03.000 Whose body is that?

00:44:05.000 It looks good right there, though.

00:44:06.000 They put his head on.

00:44:07.000 I would say that looks reasonably athletic.

00:44:11.000 That's what I would say.

00:44:12.000 Really?

00:44:12.000 Yeah.

00:44:13.000 Yeah.

00:44:13.000 I mean, that's a guy who's not fat.

00:44:15.000 I wonder what you would describe me with my shirt on if that's reasonably defined.

00:44:17.000 Dead man walking.

00:44:19.000 What?

00:44:20.000 He's vengeance defined, right?

00:44:21.000 Yeah, that's not vengeance defined, unfortunately.

00:44:24.000 Embodied.

00:44:25.000 But apparently it's a very dark and interesting movie.

00:44:30.000 And everyone that I know that has seen it loved it.

00:44:32.000 Yeah.

00:44:32.000 I've heard good things.

00:44:34.000 128 million opening weekend. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Oh, you're a fucking Hollywood guy. 1.00

00:44:38.000 You pay attention to that shit. 1.00

00:44:39.000 I saw the headline. 1.00

00:44:41.000 Look at you, reading Variety on the toilet.

00:44:44.000 How much money are they making?

00:44:46.000 As if, like, somehow or another involves you.

00:44:48.000 That's big.

00:44:49.000 That's big.

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:50.000 How much did Pfizer earn this quarter?

00:44:51.000 Tell me that.

00:44:52.000 I don't know that part.

00:44:53.000 But I do know that...

00:44:55.000 And Jackass forever did very well.

00:44:58.000 I'm sure it did.

00:44:59.000 I don't know how those guys are alive.

00:45:01.000 That's the biggest victory for me. 0.93

00:45:03.000 I just love that dumb, fun comedy went back to making some money after the pandemic. 0.92

00:45:08.000 That's good news for all of us. 0.91

00:45:10.000 Dude, you know what I watched yesterday?

00:45:12.000 I watched a series of Buster Keaton stunts.

00:45:16.000 Oh, man.

00:45:18.000 Here's the real deal.

00:45:19.000 I know I've seen these before, so I shouldn't have been so shocked, but I went down a rabbit hole, and I watched quite a few of them.

00:45:26.000 YouTubes?

00:45:27.000 Yeah, there's a gang of them.

00:45:28.000 One of them, he goes out this window.

00:45:33.000 No, he jumps from one rooftop to another roof, grabs onto the lip of the roof, and slips, and falls.

00:45:41.000 Watch this.

00:45:42.000 Now, this is not CGI. So he's standing there, he makes the leap, he catches that, falls through those things, and then catches that bar.

00:45:51.000 Wait a minute.

00:45:53.000 And then goes under like that.

00:45:54.000 These are real, man.

00:45:55.000 And look at this.

00:45:57.000 That's amazing.

00:45:58.000 I mean...

00:45:59.000 Wow.

00:46:01.000 I don't...

00:46:01.000 How do you do that?

00:46:03.000 There's no stuntmen.

00:46:04.000 This is Buster Keaton.

00:46:06.000 But he did a bunch of these things.

00:46:07.000 Like, watch this.

00:46:09.000 Grabs the car.

00:46:11.000 Grabs the car, and he holds on to it, and he goes sideways.

00:46:18.000 But the thing is, man, this is all really happening.

00:46:21.000 Yeah.

00:46:21.000 Like, watch this.

00:46:26.000 He grabs the back of this trolley car...

00:46:30.000 No, that's not real.

00:46:31.000 That is not real.

00:46:32.000 How'd he do it, though?

00:46:33.000 That's definitely not real.

00:46:34.000 How'd he do it?

00:46:34.000 He was one of the first filmmakers.

00:46:37.000 But that's not real.

00:46:38.000 That defies physics, right?

00:46:39.000 Yeah.

00:46:40.000 Doesn't it?

00:46:40.000 I mean, how did he do it?

00:46:45.000 It's Johnny Knoxville.

00:46:47.000 Some of these were the beginnings of camera optical illusions.

00:46:52.000 Oh, really?

00:46:53.000 Some of them. 0.97

00:46:53.000 Not all of them, because he got fucked up doing some of these, too. 0.97

00:46:56.000 Oh, he had to get fucked up. 0.99

00:46:58.000 Because they probably had to figure out what you can get away with and what you can't get away with. 1.00

00:47:02.000 Didn't he...

00:47:03.000 Did you see the one when the whole house falls?

00:47:05.000 That's real.

00:47:06.000 This is real.

00:47:07.000 This is real.

00:47:08.000 Wow, look at that. 1.00

00:47:09.000 I mean, this is wild shit. 1.00

00:47:13.000 Wild shit that he was... 1.00

00:47:14.000 Oh, look at that. 1.00

00:47:15.000 His whole car falls apart.

00:47:16.000 That's hilarious.

00:47:19.000 Like that, mate.

00:47:21.000 Like this.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, so how did he do that one?

00:47:22.000 There's a small chance it just was on a, like he did some of it, but like that could have been like a screen plate, you know, like the way they even did cartoons back then.

00:47:31.000 I've seen a few behind the scenes of some of these, but I also don't want to discredit it at all.

00:47:35.000 I heard he got hurt doing this and still managed to make something happen even though it failed the way he planned it.

00:47:40.000 Dude, this makes my hand sweat just looking at it.

00:47:42.000 I know.

00:47:43.000 Watch him make this leap.

00:47:46.000 Boom, boom. 0.99

00:47:47.000 I mean, how does that not fuck you up? 0.99

00:47:50.000 Was that his body, though, falling down? 0.97

00:47:52.000 Well, it wasn't somebody else's body. 0.82

00:47:54.000 It could have been a dummy.

00:47:56.000 You think?

00:47:57.000 Maybe.

00:47:57.000 It sure looked like you would die if you did it, like if somebody really did it.

00:48:02.000 I mean, it makes me nervous. 0.99

00:48:04.000 But like, fucking crazy-ass Tom Cruise does his own stunts for Mission Impossible, broke his ankle, jumping from one roof to another. 0.98

00:48:10.000 Did you ever see that video? 0.99

00:48:12.000 No.

00:48:12.000 He clearly breaks his ankle.

00:48:14.000 Really?

00:48:14.000 I mean, he's wired and everything, so he doesn't have to worry about dying, but he makes the leap, and his ankle catches funny, and you see his ankle get out.

00:48:26.000 What do you think the desire is to do your own stunts?

00:48:29.000 Tom does all his own stunts.

00:48:30.000 Tom, like he's my friend.

00:48:31.000 My friend Tom.

00:48:32.000 Tom does it.

00:48:33.000 Not Tom Papa.

00:48:34.000 Tom Cruise.

00:48:35.000 Oh.

00:48:35.000 The other Tom.

00:48:36.000 Tom C. The guy who doesn't bake bread.

00:48:40.000 He does all his own stunts.

00:48:41.000 He does motorcycle race stunts.

00:48:43.000 He does car racing stunts. 1.00

00:48:44.000 He does a lot of wild shit. 1.00

00:48:46.000 He learned how to race helicopters. 1.00

00:48:49.000 He learned how to fly helicopters to do a scene.

00:48:52.000 Wasn't that Mission Impossible as well? 0.98

00:48:54.000 There was a crazy scene and they were like, hey man, this is a fucked up scene. 0.95

00:48:57.000 He's like, I'm going to do it. 0.97

00:48:58.000 And they're like, what?

00:49:00.000 So he takes his helicopter, and he's going through this valley.

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 Like, sideways.

00:49:06.000 Jeez. 1.00

00:49:07.000 Yeah, and he's piloting the fucking helicopter. 1.00

00:49:09.000 Don't mess with TC. He's a wild dude. 1.00

00:49:12.000 He is a wild dude.

00:49:12.000 All things through L. Ron Hubbard, who strengthens him.

00:49:15.000 Well, there's truth to that, isn't there?

00:49:18.000 Well, yeah, if you believe it.

00:49:20.000 Like, this is real, too.

00:49:21.000 But this, like, he's strapped into the, you know, he's, like, tied on.

00:49:25.000 He's not just hanging on.

00:49:29.000 Amazing. 0.99

00:49:30.000 A lot of the shit that he did, like this, this is him actually doing this. 1.00

00:49:36.000 He's actually being suspended and he actually jumps out of this fucking building. 1.00

00:49:41.000 He does wild shit, man. 1.00

00:49:43.000 And he has the option to tag out, go to his trailer, eat some carrot sticks while the other guy does it. 1.00

00:49:50.000 Yeah, and by the way, stuntmen die.

00:49:53.000 They die.

00:49:54.000 They die all the time.

00:49:56.000 It happens all the time in films. 1.00

00:49:57.000 I have a very good friend of mine who got badly injured doing stunt work just a couple years ago, and he still fucked up. 0.99

00:50:03.000 Really? 0.99

00:50:04.000 Yeah, his head.

00:50:05.000 What happened?

00:50:05.000 He was doing a stunt, and he did it once, and they liked it, and they asked him to do a second take, and he was very uncomfortable, and he did it and banged his head really hard.

00:50:15.000 My friend Tate.

00:50:16.000 You might have met Tate at the Comedy Store?

00:50:18.000 Maybe.

00:50:19.000 Yeah, Tate was on season three of The Ultimate Fighter.

00:50:25.000 Okay. 0.96

00:50:25.000 And he was, you know, big fucking strong athletic guy. 0.96

00:50:29.000 And stunts just go bad, man. 0.99

00:50:32.000 Of course!

00:50:32.000 They just go bad.

00:50:33.000 And he banged his head and he was fucked for a long time. 1.00

00:50:36.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:50:37.000 Couldn't see bright light, had to be in dark rooms.

00:50:40.000 Jeez.

00:50:41.000 And all the depression that comes when people get those horrible head injuries like that.

00:50:48.000 So meanwhile, here's Tom Cruise.

00:50:50.000 Literally the biggest movie star in the world.

00:50:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:52.000 Risking his ass. 1.00

00:50:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:53.000 Doing these things. 1.00

00:50:54.000 It's insane.

00:50:55.000 I slipped on the ice in Fargo, North Dakota last week.

00:50:58.000 Hit your head?

00:50:59.000 A little bit.

00:51:01.000 You alright?

00:51:02.000 Huh?

00:51:06.000 But it was literally like a week after Saget.

00:51:09.000 Oh no.

00:51:10.000 I didn't even know I was falling.

00:51:13.000 It just happened so fast.

00:51:14.000 I was just walking to my show, but everything in Fargo right now is an ice block.

00:51:19.000 It's literally covered in ice.

00:51:21.000 So I'm just walking.

00:51:22.000 I wasn't even thinking about falling.

00:51:23.000 I was just thinking about getting into the building because it was so damn cold.

00:51:27.000 It's like minus 31 wind chill.

00:51:29.000 Oh.

00:51:29.000 And I'm just walking.

00:51:30.000 And there was no part of me that was like, whoops, or whoa, or I might be falling.

00:51:35.000 I was just, I fell!

00:51:38.000 I'm down.

00:51:38.000 I'm on the sidewalk.

00:51:40.000 And there was a building next to me, and I just kind of grazed it a little bit with my head.

00:51:44.000 And I think I might have broke a rib, because I'm still in pain down here.

00:51:49.000 Broke a rib?

00:51:50.000 Or bruised it.

00:51:51.000 Yeah, something.

00:51:51.000 If you broke a rib, you'd probably know.

00:51:54.000 I can't sleep on it.

00:51:55.000 Yeah?

00:51:56.000 Yeah, it's been a couple weeks.

00:51:57.000 Can you touch it?

00:51:59.000 I feel it.

00:52:01.000 It's not crazy pain.

00:52:04.000 They don't do much for those.

00:52:05.000 Unless it's really bad, then they put screws in place.

00:52:08.000 Yeah, no, this isn't that bad.

00:52:10.000 Maybe I bruised it.

00:52:11.000 There's a gentleman named Chance Rencounter.

00:52:13.000 We brought him up a couple of times because he fought in Bellator a couple weeks ago.

00:52:16.000 Or a week ago, I guess.

00:52:17.000 Not even a week.

00:52:19.000 Maybe.

00:52:20.000 Whatever it was.

00:52:21.000 Recently.

00:52:22.000 And he got kicked and broke five of his ribs.

00:52:26.000 Yeah, like kicked really hard.

00:52:28.000 And he put a photo of the x-ray up, I think yesterday, of the screws and the plates that they put in place to put his ribs back together.

00:52:38.000 Yeah, there's the kick.

00:52:40.000 Look at that.

00:52:40.000 And that kick broke five ribs?

00:52:43.000 Bro, look at it.

00:52:45.000 It's halfway into his body cavity.

00:52:47.000 Oh my god. 0.95

00:52:49.000 Yeah, he fought this guy Koreshkoff who's a straight up killer. 0.84

00:52:52.000 Yeah. 0.85

00:52:53.000 He hit him with a spinning back kick to the body. 0.94

00:52:54.000 Oh my god.

00:52:55.000 I saw some of your kicks.

00:52:57.000 You posted a kick like a month ago?

00:52:59.000 Same kick.

00:53:00.000 Holy cow. 0.89

00:53:02.000 Whack! 1.00

00:53:03.000 Whack! 1.00

00:53:04.000 You do not want a guy like that kicking you like that.

00:53:07.000 No, I can't even walk through the winter wonderland of Fargo without getting hurt.

00:53:11.000 So look at his ribs, all of these plates put in him now.

00:53:15.000 Oh my god.

00:53:16.000 That could puncture a lung. 0.81

00:53:18.000 Oh, 100%.

00:53:19.000 His lung was punctured.

00:53:20.000 It was?

00:53:20.000 Yeah, and it was soaked with blood.

00:53:22.000 His lung was filled with blood.

00:53:23.000 It was punctured.

00:53:24.000 Oh my god.

00:53:25.000 I mean, it was a brutal, brutal break.

00:53:28.000 And that ended the fight?

00:53:30.000 Oh yeah.

00:53:31.000 It was like the first few seconds of the fight, he threw that kick.

00:53:35.000 It was very quick, very early in the fight.

00:53:38.000 How was this weekend?

00:53:39.000 It was great.

00:53:39.000 Was it?

00:53:40.000 Yeah, it was great.

00:53:41.000 Yeah, great, great event.

00:53:42.000 Yeah.

00:53:42.000 Crazy.

00:53:43.000 Yeah.

00:53:43.000 Wild.

00:53:44.000 I don't know the names or anything, but any surprises?

00:53:47.000 No, not necessarily.

00:53:49.000 Just really good fights.

00:53:50.000 It was Colby Covington versus Jorge Masvidal.

00:53:53.000 Have you been to a UFC lineup?

00:53:55.000 I haven't.

00:53:55.000 Bro.

00:53:56.000 I really want to go.

00:53:57.000 What are you waiting on?

00:53:58.000 I'm waiting for the invite.

00:53:59.000 You know a guy.

00:54:01.000 You know a guy.

00:54:01.000 Do I got to give you three loaves?

00:54:05.000 Just tell me when you want to go.

00:54:06.000 I would love to.

00:54:07.000 Yeah.

00:54:07.000 Are you going to be in Vegas in May?

00:54:09.000 No.

00:54:10.000 No, I don't think there's a May one.

00:54:12.000 There's a July one.

00:54:14.000 Okay.

00:54:14.000 Is there a Vegas May date?

00:54:17.000 There may be a May one, but it probably is at the Apex Center.

00:54:22.000 Uh-huh.

00:54:23.000 Because there's an April one that's in Phoenix.

00:54:27.000 That is April...

00:54:28.000 No, excuse me.

00:54:29.000 That's in Florida.

00:54:30.000 That's April 9th.

00:54:31.000 And there's a May one that's in Phoenix.

00:54:34.000 Phoenix could be fun.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, Phoenix is fun.

00:54:39.000 I have a show in Vegas in May.

00:54:40.000 If you can make that happen, that'd be great.

00:54:42.000 I'll call the UFC. Say, listen, Tom Pomp wants to see some scraps.

00:54:47.000 Where should I go?

00:54:48.000 I would love to come, honestly.

00:54:50.000 If you want to go, the Phoenix one would be great.

00:54:52.000 Yeah?

00:54:52.000 Yeah, because the Phoenix one, it'll be a fun time if you want to come, because I don't have any gigs scheduled that weekend either.

00:54:57.000 We're just going to go and have fun.

00:54:58.000 Oh man, I saw your steak that you ate after.

00:55:01.000 Oh yeah, we ate the John George Steakhouse in Aria.

00:55:04.000 I was like my dog just like salivating.

00:55:07.000 That would look beautiful.

00:55:09.000 One thing about Vegas, man, there's so much good food.

00:55:11.000 That place is great, but even better.

00:55:13.000 Sorry, John George Steakhouse.

00:55:15.000 But Bizarre Meats.

00:55:16.000 Where's that?

00:55:17.000 At the Sahara.

00:55:18.000 Oh yeah?

00:55:21.000 Bizarre Meats.

00:55:22.000 It is insanely good.

00:55:24.000 They cook them over fire, so they have these Argentine-style wheel steak grills where they lift and lower.

00:55:32.000 You walk in there, you smell the wood burning, the smell of the meat, and the smell of the burning wood.

00:55:41.000 Your caveman comes out.

00:55:43.000 It's so good.

00:55:44.000 And the gentleman that is a famous chef, Jose Andres, who is the head chef of that place.

00:55:51.000 So you walk into that place?

00:55:52.000 Yeah.

00:55:53.000 Jamie, show the area where they're cooking.

00:55:56.000 There's a video of it, I know.

00:55:58.000 So that's it.

00:55:59.000 Perfect.

00:56:00.000 So those right there, so they have the cuts of meat right there, these big thick cuts of steak.

00:56:05.000 And then they have these grills that are basically fires.

00:56:09.000 So they have just, it's just hardwood.

00:56:12.000 Jeez.

00:56:12.000 And then they put the steaks at the top.

00:56:15.000 See the very top area?

00:56:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:56:17.000 They have them up there until the steaks reach like an internal temperature of, you know, like 110 degrees or something like that.

00:56:24.000 Then they put them directly over the fire to sear them on the outside, so they use like a reverse sear method.

00:56:30.000 It is...

00:56:32.000 It looks so good.

00:56:34.000 I always think I should go somewhere else when I'm in Vegas, but I never do. 0.99

00:56:38.000 It's not worth fucking around. 0.96

00:56:39.000 I can never get that outside char at home. 0.99

00:56:42.000 Oh, I can help you.

00:56:43.000 You can?

00:56:44.000 Yeah, that I'm good at.

00:56:44.000 Are you?

00:56:45.000 I can't bake bread at all, but I can cook the fuck out of some steak. 0.94

00:56:48.000 I'm very good at that. 0.88

00:56:49.000 Really?

00:56:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:50.000 Well, I have a beautiful freezer in my garage.

00:56:53.000 That's right.

00:56:53.000 You've got a nice setup.

00:56:54.000 Yeah.

00:56:55.000 I gave you that commercial freezer.

00:56:56.000 How much elk do you have left?

00:56:58.000 I have not that much steaks.

00:57:02.000 I have a good amount of ground elk still.

00:57:05.000 Do you have sausages, too?

00:57:07.000 Yeah, I'm getting low.

00:57:09.000 Well, I got more.

00:57:10.000 You know what you should do?

00:57:11.000 You should make lasagna with that ground elk.

00:57:14.000 Ah, that's a good idea.

00:57:15.000 Dare made lasagna?

00:57:17.000 Not with the elk.

00:57:18.000 I mean, I make a good lasagna.

00:57:19.000 Yeah, you should make it with elk.

00:57:21.000 Yeah, that would be good.

00:57:23.000 Yes.

00:57:23.000 Elk lasagna.

00:57:25.000 Elk chili is really good, too.

00:57:26.000 Ooh, that's another good idea.

00:57:28.000 You know what I really like, which I think you told me, is for breakfast.

00:57:33.000 Oh yeah, with eggs?

00:57:34.000 Just crack some eggs over it.

00:57:35.000 Yes, fantastic.

00:57:36.000 Get some of this toast on the side.

00:57:39.000 In butter, so you get a lot of the fats from the butter, and I like a little garlic salt.

00:57:44.000 Right.

00:57:44.000 Garlic salt overall.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:47.000 It's so good.

00:57:49.000 Yeah, I know.

00:57:50.000 The freezer's great.

00:57:52.000 Something about the smells of cooking, too, they're so exciting.

00:57:55.000 When you cook food, you get the smell, all the aromas while it's cooking, and then afterwards you eat it.

00:58:02.000 It's like you get double pleasure.

00:58:05.000 Whenever I'm making sauce, and you start with onions in the oil, like a sofrito, some carrots and celery, and that onion smell will linger for a day or two.

00:58:22.000 The meal's done, it's all satisfied, whatever.

00:58:25.000 You come up the stairs the next morning, and you still have that lingering...

00:58:29.000 It's like the holidays.

00:58:30.000 It's like the whole house is just filled with it.

00:58:32.000 I love the smell of sautéed garlic.

00:58:34.000 It's one of my favorite smells.

00:58:35.000 Oh, it's the best.

00:58:36.000 Whenever I cook a sauce, the first thing that I do...

00:58:39.000 I usually just use bottled sauce, but...

00:58:42.000 Whenever I do it, the first thing I do before I pour it in the pan is I heat the pan up, and I mince up some garlic, I put some olive oil, let the olive oil get up to temperature, and then I drop the garlic in there, get it crackling, and then once it gets crackling, then I pour the sauce in over that.

00:58:59.000 So good.

00:59:02.000 It can never have enough garlic.

00:59:03.000 I know.

00:59:04.000 I interviewed Lydia Bastianich.

00:59:07.000 Who's that?

00:59:08.000 She's a famous chef, Italian chef, and I had her on my podcast and she was telling me that it wasn't until Italian Americans started cooking Italian food, like when they brought it over to the new country,

00:59:24.000 garlic was cheaper.

00:59:25.000 So that's when garlic was really heavily introduced.

00:59:28.000 Really?

00:59:29.000 Yeah.

00:59:29.000 It was always...

00:59:30.000 Because it was expensive in Italy?

00:59:31.000 Yeah, or it was more rare.

00:59:34.000 And she said, but, you know, all us lugs in Jersey were just throwing garlic on it like crazy.

00:59:40.000 And it became like a heavy thing.

00:59:42.000 It used to be, you know, like carrots and celery and onion.

00:59:45.000 And it was a lighter kind of a thing.

00:59:47.000 And we were just like, uh-uh, garlic.

00:59:49.000 Dude, I've seen like literally 40 or 50 hours of videos of Italian guys cooking steak over fire.

00:59:59.000 Because there's a special type of steak they cook in Florentine.

01:00:02.000 They call it Bistecca Florentine.

01:00:05.000 And they do the same kind of thing as that.

01:00:08.000 It's like you're cooking over live fire and the smells and the embers.

01:00:14.000 And I don't know what they're saying because they're all talking in Italian. 0.85

01:00:18.000 They're all getting into it.

01:00:19.000 I have the same thing watching guys making carbonara.

01:00:22.000 Ah, yes.

01:00:23.000 With the guanciale and the egg and the cheese.

01:00:26.000 The bacon.

01:00:27.000 Yeah, Matteo Lane turned me on to these carbonara guys.

01:00:31.000 And the same thing, all in Italian.

01:00:32.000 Don't understand it, but you're just watching them.

01:00:34.000 It's better sometimes if you don't understand what they're saying.

01:00:37.000 Yeah, it is.

01:00:37.000 You're right.

01:00:38.000 Especially something as simple as cooking steak over fire.

01:00:41.000 And you can have the closed captions on and everything, and you can read what they're saying, but there's something about watching.

01:00:48.000 It's so primal, watching people cook meat over fire.

01:00:53.000 What's your char method?

01:00:55.000 How do you get the outside?

01:00:57.000 I have a gas grill, first of all.

01:01:00.000 Will I ever get char?

01:01:02.000 Well, the best way to do it if you have a gas grill, honestly, is you do it two ways.

01:01:10.000 You start it off slowly, like you put it low, and I would put it at like 250, 260. Somewhere around that line.

01:01:19.000 And have a meat thermometer.

01:01:21.000 Get it up to whatever the internal temperature you'd like to achieve is.

01:01:24.000 I like to get, like with elk, I like to keep it pretty rare on the inside and slowly get it to like 120. And then I like to use a cast iron frying pan to sear it.

01:01:37.000 So I get the cast iron frying pan very hot.

01:01:40.000 Very hot.

01:01:41.000 No.

01:01:42.000 No butter?

01:01:43.000 No, because butter has a low flashpoint.

01:01:45.000 It'll burn quick.

01:01:46.000 It'll burn up.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, so I use beef tallow.

01:01:48.000 Beef tallow, what's that?

01:01:49.000 Yeah, beef fat.

01:01:50.000 Oh.

01:01:51.000 Yeah, beef tallow's better because you can get beef tallow very, very hot.

01:01:54.000 And that's how you do it with the Elks?

01:01:56.000 Or low flashpoint or smoke point.

01:01:58.000 I forget what it's called.

01:01:59.000 But basically what it is, it's like at a certain temperature, like some oils will become fucked up and they burn. 0.63

01:02:08.000 Right. 0.81

01:02:08.000 Like butter burns pretty quickly. 0.81

01:02:11.000 Right.

01:02:12.000 Olive oil is not the best for that.

01:02:14.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 Olive oil is great for a nice medium heat saute with garlic and stuff like that.

01:02:19.000 Yeah, totally. 0.98

01:02:19.000 But with beef tallow, you can get it hot as fuck. 0.98

01:02:21.000 And so that I scoop some of the beef tallow out, I dip it in the frying pan, and then I just sear it on the outside like me, depending on what the internal temperature is, a minute and a half, two minutes on each side, maximum. 0.96

01:02:34.000 Because you're just doing the outside at that point because you've achieved the inside already.

01:02:38.000 Yeah, just trying to get a nice crust.

01:02:40.000 What do they call the mallard reaction?

01:02:43.000 Is that what they call it?

01:02:44.000 There's a reaction of meat where the meat sort of gets like a caramelization.

01:02:50.000 I think it's called mallard.

01:02:52.000 Okay.

01:02:52.000 That's like when you get a steak and it's got a nice crust on the outside.

01:02:56.000 Yes.

01:02:57.000 And then the inside, it's very perfect.

01:02:59.000 Yeah.

01:03:00.000 Do you put the cast iron on the grill?

01:03:03.000 You can.

01:03:04.000 Yeah?

01:03:05.000 I usually do it inside.

01:03:06.000 Do you then turn the heat up?

01:03:07.000 Or you do it inside?

01:03:08.000 Yeah, I usually do it inside.

01:03:09.000 Right.

01:03:10.000 Because, yeah, if I was going to put the cast iron on the grill, I'd turn the heat up way, way high.

01:03:14.000 Right.

01:03:14.000 Is it called the mallard?

01:03:16.000 Yes.

01:03:17.000 The maillard.

01:03:19.000 M-A-I-L-L-A-R-D reaction. 0.98

01:03:22.000 So it's a chemical reaction with sugars and amino acids in the meat reacting create new flavorful compounds.

01:03:30.000 Flavorful!

01:03:31.000 Flavorful!

01:03:32.000 Flavorful!

01:03:33.000 But that's that beautiful brown crust on the outside.

01:03:36.000 Yeah.

01:03:37.000 So what I do is...

01:03:40.000 When I get the temperature of the meat up to about 90 degrees, generally speaking, I like to do elk one of two ways.

01:03:52.000 Either I use one of those Argentine-type grills and I cook it over fire, and when I do it slowly, I use a meter probe, or I do it on the Traeger, which is very easy because the temperature stays super consistent.

01:04:05.000 And you can read the temperature on your phone.

01:04:07.000 So I like that.

01:04:08.000 That's cool.

01:04:09.000 So I can read the temperature of the meat and the grill on my phone.

01:04:12.000 Just look in the app.

01:04:13.000 So I could be watching TV or whatever and just chilling.

01:04:15.000 So then, once it gets to about 90-ish, then what I do is I fire up the stove top in the house at high heat.

01:04:23.000 And I put a cast iron frying pan there.

01:04:25.000 Got it.

01:04:25.000 And I get that sucker real hot, get the fan cranking, and then I throw some tallow in there right when I'm about to put it on there.

01:04:33.000 Got it, got it. 0.77

01:04:33.000 And the beautiful thing about that is when you do that method, you don't have to make it rest very long either because you sort of slowly cooked it to that 120 degrees anyway. 0.77

01:04:44.000 Then you're searing on the outside and I'll let it rest five minutes plus.

01:04:48.000 Right, right.

01:04:48.000 That's about it.

01:04:49.000 Oh, that sounds great.

01:04:50.000 Nice.

01:04:50.000 That sounds good.

01:04:53.000 So where do we go see the fights, then?

01:04:56.000 Maybe it should be Vegas.

01:04:58.000 Well, Vegas, you can go to July if you want to come to the July fights.

01:05:01.000 That could be cool.

01:05:02.000 Yeah, that'll be a big one.

01:05:03.000 July is July 2nd, and I have a gig July 1st, too, there.

01:05:10.000 July 2nd.

01:05:11.000 I think I'm in San Diego July 1st, so then I just buzz across.

01:05:14.000 Yeah.

01:05:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:15.000 Hop, skip, and a jump.

01:05:16.000 That's easy.

01:05:17.000 Show up July 2nd.

01:05:18.000 Yeah, you'll love it.

01:05:19.000 Oh, that'd be cool.

01:05:20.000 It'll be a big one, too.

01:05:21.000 Whatever that July one will be, the July 4th weekend is always huge for the UFC. Because July 4th is that Monday.

01:05:29.000 So July 2nd will be a cracking card.

01:05:33.000 They'll always have a championship event.

01:05:36.000 It might be the return of Conor McGregor.

01:05:39.000 Oh, really?

01:05:39.000 Yeah, I know they're talking about Conor coming back.

01:05:41.000 Really?

01:05:42.000 It all depended upon his injury.

01:05:44.000 Yeah, is he healed?

01:05:45.000 I'm not sure.

01:05:47.000 He says he's working out and walking around.

01:05:49.000 You can see him walking around, he looks fine, but whether or not he can actually spar, that's the big thing.

01:05:54.000 Right.

01:05:55.000 It's like sparring is.

01:05:56.000 If he'd be, yeah.

01:05:57.000 You have to make sure that the bone's not going to break again.

01:05:59.000 He's got a titanium plate in there now.

01:06:01.000 Oh, jeez.

01:06:02.000 Just like that guy had on his ribs.

01:06:04.000 Right.

01:06:04.000 Connor's got that on his shin now.

01:06:06.000 Aye!

01:06:06.000 And screws in there.

01:06:08.000 So who knows what it feels like, whether or not he can fully get after it.

01:06:12.000 Yeah.

01:06:13.000 That'd be a big payday?

01:06:15.000 No, he's going to do it for free.

01:06:20.000 He just loves it, right?

01:06:22.000 See, the thing is, I don't know if it can be Conor, because what they're talking about is Conor fighting for the title again, which is kind of hilarious.

01:06:30.000 But if that does happen, it will be the winner of Justin Gaethje versus Charles Oliveira.

01:06:38.000 Charles Oliveira is the current champion, and they're fighting in May.

01:06:43.000 And that is a big fight, and that's taking place in Arizona.

01:06:47.000 But the thing about that fight is, when that fight is, oh, I think I'm right about that.

01:06:52.000 Make sure I'm right about that.

01:06:53.000 I'm wrong a lot.

01:06:56.000 But when that fight takes place, you have to assume that they can be healed enough to fight in July.

01:07:05.000 Because that doesn't give you a lot of time.

01:07:06.000 Right.

01:07:07.000 It's only two months.

01:07:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:07:09.000 To be able to, right, come back.

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:11.000 May 7th.

01:07:12.000 So that's the one that's in Phoenix.

01:07:13.000 That's a big one.

01:07:14.000 Oh, boy.

01:07:15.000 So it's like, for you to be able to fight, unless, like, let's say Charles Oliveira catches Justin Gaethje in a submission real quick, or Justin Gaethje catches Charles Oliveira with a big punch and knocks him out, if one of those guys wins quick, then you could conceivably say,

01:07:31.000 I'm good to go for July, and they make it happen.

01:07:33.000 But that's a big if.

01:07:35.000 Right. 0.97

01:07:35.000 Because these are two of the very best fighters in the world, and most likely, they're going to fuck each other up. 0.97

01:07:40.000 And they'll go the distance, and they'll be all messed up. 0.93

01:07:43.000 They're going to be messed up.

01:07:44.000 Most likely.

01:07:45.000 You never know.

01:07:46.000 Right.

01:07:46.000 Like, Colby Covington just won this weekend.

01:07:48.000 He said he has no injuries.

01:07:49.000 He says he's good to go.

01:07:50.000 He says he'd like to fight again in July.

01:07:52.000 He said that.

01:07:53.000 Wow.

01:07:53.000 I think he said July.

01:07:54.000 But he wants to fight again fairly soon, so he's feeling good.

01:07:58.000 And that was a big, long, five-round fight against an elite fighter.

01:08:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:02.000 Yeah.

01:08:03.000 And there'll be no baseball, so that would be good.

01:08:06.000 What's going on with baseball?

01:08:07.000 They're having a lockout.

01:08:08.000 They shut down.

01:08:09.000 I saw you.

01:08:09.000 You were getting pissed.

01:08:10.000 I was getting pissed.

01:08:11.000 Which is rare.

01:08:12.000 I'm like, Tom, Papa is hate-tweeting.

01:08:16.000 I know.

01:08:16.000 My one angry post was about baseball.

01:08:20.000 And the price of hot dogs.

01:08:21.000 I hate greed.

01:08:22.000 I hate greed.

01:08:23.000 Is that what it is?

01:08:24.000 Yeah.

01:08:25.000 Sons of...

01:08:26.000 You know, we've...

01:08:27.000 Yeah, I love baseball so much.

01:08:29.000 What is the...

01:08:30.000 What's the dispute?

01:08:33.000 It's between the owners and the players and there's different...

01:08:38.000 I don't know.

01:08:39.000 I don't even know.

01:08:40.000 You don't know?

01:08:41.000 No.

01:08:41.000 I don't know the ins and outs.

01:08:43.000 But yeah, you're tweeting about it. 0.99

01:08:44.000 I just know get your shit together and open up baseball. 1.00

01:08:49.000 We stuck with you through this stupid ass pandemic through everything. 1.00

01:08:52.000 These families have... 1.00

01:08:54.000 Here it is.

01:08:55.000 It's all greedy.

01:08:55.000 Major matters such as the competitive balanced tax thresholds, the minimum salary, and the size of the new pre-arbitration bonus pool leaves the sides with a significant distance between their proposals.

01:09:08.000 Boy, good luck getting America behind competitive balance tax thresholds, minimum salary, and the size of new pre-arbitration bonus pool.

01:09:17.000 People are going to be like, what? 0.97

01:09:18.000 Where the fuck are the hot dogs? 0.99

01:09:20.000 That's exactly my reaction. 0.98

01:09:22.000 It's just like, I want to meet my friends on opening day. 1.00

01:09:26.000 Get your shit together. 0.99

01:09:27.000 So is it possible they're going to work this out, or is it over? 1.00

01:09:30.000 It seems like, well...

01:09:32.000 It seems like opening day is going to be shut, and will they work it out and save the season?

01:09:38.000 Perhaps. 0.89

01:09:39.000 But they're already knocking off some weeks, which is so dirty and gross. 0.96

01:09:46.000 It's just gross. 0.97

01:09:47.000 It is gross.

01:09:48.000 It's such a huge...

01:09:49.000 The money is so huge in these...

01:09:51.000 I mean...

01:09:52.000 Right, but if you're a player and you realize that the owners and the coaches are making way more than the players, which is understandable, but there's like some negotiation room and the owners aren't willing to negotiate and...

01:10:08.000 Minimum salary is low.

01:10:11.000 Yep.

01:10:11.000 No, I know.

01:10:13.000 I'm sure someone is more at harm than others.

01:10:17.000 I don't know who. 0.99

01:10:19.000 But get your shit together and realize that you've got a fan base and you've got these families that scrape together stuff to go and keep on this tradition. 1.00

01:10:28.000 It's just ugly and gross. 0.99

01:10:30.000 Yeah, if I was them, I'd be worried that people would wake up and realize that baseball is boring.

01:10:34.000 What?

01:10:36.000 Who said that?

01:10:37.000 Don't give us time to think about it.

01:10:39.000 Who said that?

01:10:41.000 It's relatively boring.

01:10:43.000 I love it so much.

01:10:45.000 Well, it's an American pastime.

01:10:47.000 It's an American pastime.

01:10:48.000 There's a lot tied to it. 1.00

01:10:49.000 Dude, people live for that shit. 1.00

01:10:51.000 My grandfather lived for the Yankees. 1.00

01:10:52.000 My grandfather too.

01:10:54.000 They were probably around the same age.

01:10:56.000 Yeah, probably.

01:10:57.000 In the same area.

01:10:58.000 Yeah.

01:10:59.000 I loved it.

01:11:00.000 I loved talking about it with him.

01:11:02.000 He was just, I was the best.

01:11:05.000 Yeah, I loved it when I was a kid until I started doing martial arts.

01:11:07.000 Yeah.

01:11:08.000 I found martial arts because of baseball.

01:11:11.000 That's how I found Taekwondo.

01:11:12.000 Why?

01:11:13.000 Went to a Sox game.

01:11:14.000 Went to see the Red Sox at Fenway Park.

01:11:16.000 And me and my friend Jimmy were on our way home.

01:11:18.000 And we had to wait for the T, you know, the local transportation system.

01:11:23.000 And it was a big-ass line.

01:11:24.000 So we walked past this martial arts school.

01:11:27.000 And I said, let's go see what's up.

01:11:29.000 And we walked in, and as I was walking up the stairs, I was hearing this crazy sound, like whomp!

01:11:36.000 And then a chain clanking, and I was like, what is going on up there?

01:11:40.000 And it was this guy, his name was John Lee, and he became a mentor to me later on.

01:11:45.000 I fought on the same team as him.

01:11:47.000 And he was the national champion at the time, and he was preparing for, I think it was the World Cup.

01:11:53.000 Wow.

01:11:54.000 You just wandered in.

01:11:55.000 I just wandered in.

01:11:56.000 I wandered in watching one of the best on earth in peak condition in the middle of training.

01:12:03.000 Jeez.

01:12:03.000 And I remember watching him kick the bag thinking, I want to be able And he was doing that thing that you saw me kick the back kick.

01:12:12.000 That's what he was doing.

01:12:14.000 And that's probably how I... No, not probably.

01:12:17.000 Definitely how I fell in love with that kick.

01:12:19.000 Which became my signature kick.

01:12:21.000 Because I wanted to do what he did.

01:12:23.000 I couldn't believe the amount of power he was generating.

01:12:26.000 It is impressive to watch.

01:12:28.000 Watching you do it is just like, whack!

01:12:31.000 It is.

01:12:31.000 It's the sound.

01:12:32.000 The sound is the thing that gets you.

01:12:33.000 I'm so slow compared to what I was when I was like 19. Really?

01:12:38.000 Oh, yeah, man.

01:12:38.000 When I was 19, I was so fast at that.

01:12:41.000 Also, I weighed 155 pounds.

01:12:43.000 It was a lot smaller.

01:12:44.000 Right.

01:12:44.000 But you're still fast.

01:12:46.000 I mean, it's still fast.

01:12:47.000 Relatively.

01:12:48.000 Relatively.

01:12:49.000 It's still a big, loud whack.

01:12:51.000 It's a lot of noise.

01:12:52.000 I'm just happy that I could still, at 54, that I could still do it.

01:12:55.000 Because I was worried that as I was getting older, like, there's going to come a time where I'm going to be physically limited.

01:13:01.000 Sure.

01:13:02.000 And I've managed to stave that off.

01:13:03.000 I've managed to hold that off.

01:13:04.000 Yeah, I mean, one injury in any part of your body that needs to participate in that, and it's over.

01:13:10.000 A lot of things have to be moving in coordination.

01:13:13.000 Knees and hips and back and turn and force and ankle.

01:13:17.000 Right.

01:13:18.000 It's like when I fell on the ice.

01:13:19.000 That's exactly what happened.

01:13:21.000 Basically, you're an athlete.

01:13:23.000 But I found that gym because of a baseball game.

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:26.000 And that's also what led me to stop taking baseball seriously.

01:13:30.000 Right.

01:13:32.000 Yeah.

01:13:33.000 I just like it.

01:13:34.000 It's just the pace is great.

01:13:35.000 I have so many traditions around it.

01:13:37.000 I meet up with my buddies from high school.

01:13:39.000 The pace is great.

01:13:40.000 So you like it slow?

01:13:41.000 I do like it slow.

01:13:42.000 Do you like soccer?

01:13:42.000 And then there's action because it builds.

01:13:44.000 It builds.

01:13:44.000 It's that thing.

01:13:45.000 Do you like soccer?

01:13:46.000 I do, but I don't really watch it.

01:13:48.000 Like, when the World Cup comes around, I get into it and think, I should be watching this all the time!

01:13:52.000 Yeah.

01:13:53.000 But I've never been, like, into the leagues and all that stuff.

01:13:56.000 There are certain dudes that when the World Cup comes around, they get really annoying.

01:14:00.000 I know.

01:14:00.000 You know what I mean?

01:14:01.000 They know everything.

01:14:02.000 There's certain guys that are, like, a little too enthusiastic about letting you know that they like soccer.

01:14:11.000 Right.

01:14:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:14:13.000 I totally know what you mean.

01:14:14.000 It's a little virtue signally.

01:14:16.000 It's a little I'm wearing two masks.

01:14:19.000 You know?

01:14:20.000 You know the type of guy?

01:14:21.000 Yeah, this is my team.

01:14:22.000 This is what I do.

01:14:24.000 No, I know exactly what you mean.

01:14:26.000 It's the type of guy who pronounces the names of countries with a roll of the tongue, a little too exaggerated.

01:14:36.000 Guadalajara.

01:14:37.000 Guadalajara.

01:14:38.000 Argentina.

01:14:39.000 You know, they say names of cities.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, and you're white. 0.84

01:14:42.000 They go too hard. 0.84

01:14:43.000 You're from Denver. 1.00

01:14:44.000 Settle the fuck down, buddy. 0.99

01:14:46.000 Those are the guys that get so excited about the World Cup. 1.00

01:14:49.000 Yeah, and they know a couple names.

01:14:52.000 Yeah, they're faking it.

01:14:54.000 All you need in sports talk to try and put a little bravado is just know a hair more than the person you're talking to.

01:15:00.000 Exactly.

01:15:01.000 So if you could throw a couple names that that guy doesn't know, you're the man. 0.99

01:15:05.000 Phonies are gross. 0.99

01:15:07.000 Phonies are so gross. 1.00

01:15:08.000 Phonies are gross. 0.99

01:15:09.000 And I run into phonies like, there's only one sport where I can spot a phony. 0.98

01:15:13.000 I mean, I kind of smell the phony with World Cup, like...

01:15:17.000 I don't like how you're talking.

01:15:19.000 I smell phony.

01:15:21.000 I don't know what it is, but it ain't true.

01:15:22.000 But with MMA, I love talking to phonies.

01:15:25.000 Right.

01:15:26.000 Because they'll bring up stuff.

01:15:27.000 That's the one sport that you go, ah, ah, ah, ah. 1.00

01:15:30.000 Don't try that shit with me. 1.00

01:15:31.000 Right. 1.00

01:15:32.000 I'm the wrong guy.

01:15:32.000 I got you.

01:15:33.000 Because I got it covered.

01:15:34.000 And so the phonies would try to break out data and facts.

01:15:38.000 I'm like, stop now.

01:15:40.000 You would need a decade of heavy research to be able to just have a conversation with me about this. 1.00

01:15:46.000 So shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:15:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:48.000 What is that thing?

01:15:49.000 I don't know.

01:15:50.000 That phony thing is- What is that thing?

01:15:51.000 Oh my god.

01:15:52.000 Why can't you just admit that you don't know that much?

01:15:54.000 Some guys want to pretend they know everything.

01:15:56.000 Yeah.

01:15:57.000 And it's a weird thing when you're talking about a sport.

01:16:00.000 Because sports involve so much.

01:16:04.000 Think of the World Cup.

01:16:06.000 Think about how many How many players there are.

01:16:07.000 So many teams and how many...

01:16:09.000 History.

01:16:10.000 Oh my god.

01:16:10.000 The whole thing.

01:16:11.000 It's the number one sport in the world.

01:16:12.000 Yeah.

01:16:13.000 So if you're going to be a phony in that...

01:16:14.000 You know who's a legitimate soccer expert is Ian.

01:16:17.000 Yeah.

01:16:18.000 Ian Edwards?

01:16:18.000 Ian, yeah.

01:16:19.000 He lives it.

01:16:20.000 He lives it.

01:16:20.000 Yeah.

01:16:21.000 He has a soccer podcast.

01:16:22.000 Right.

01:16:22.000 Ian's not remotely...

01:16:24.000 Ian's going to come here and we're going to go see one of the...

01:16:27.000 Because Austin has a professional soccer team.

01:16:29.000 Uh-huh.

01:16:29.000 So there's a, you know, Matthew McConaughey is one of the owners, and a friend of mine is one of the other owners, and we're going to go watch a game, and then we're going to do a podcast about it afterwards where I ruthlessly mock him.

01:16:38.000 But we've been talking about doing something like that for a while, watching a soccer game and then doing a podcast.

01:16:46.000 That's really great.

01:16:48.000 But again, Ian doesn't have, he has zero phony in his body.

01:16:53.000 No.

01:16:54.000 Oh my god.

01:16:55.000 Nothing in there.

01:16:55.000 No.

01:16:56.000 He's the last person to pretend he knows something.

01:16:58.000 He'll pretend he doesn't know something. 0.98

01:17:00.000 Yeah, he's the guy who gets quiet when someone else is acting a fool about it. 0.99

01:17:04.000 Exactly. 0.98

01:17:05.000 Starts clocking it.

01:17:07.000 Did you see that fight that happened over the weekend?

01:17:09.000 That soccer match in, was it Mexico?

01:17:12.000 No.

01:17:13.000 Huge fight.

01:17:14.000 A brawl?

01:17:15.000 Brawl. 0.67

01:17:16.000 Oh, no.

01:17:17.000 Like, huge.

01:17:18.000 They had to shut the whole thing down.

01:17:20.000 They had to evacuate people from the stadium.

01:17:23.000 Oh, no.

01:17:24.000 No, it was big.

01:17:25.000 At least 26 injured as fight breaks out amongst fans at Mexican soccer game.

01:17:30.000 Wow.

01:17:31.000 But that's on CNN. It might have never happened.

01:17:34.000 Wow, look at this.

01:17:35.000 They're throwing haymakers.

01:17:36.000 Oh, he's eye poking.

01:17:37.000 It spilled onto the field.

01:17:39.000 Look at that move.

01:17:40.000 The double eye poke.

01:17:41.000 Look at his belly sticking out.

01:17:43.000 Duck under and the eye poke.

01:17:45.000 Just extend the hands. 0.99

01:17:47.000 And the other guy doesn't know what the fuck he's doing either. 0.96

01:17:49.000 It never ceases to amaze me how people who don't know how to fight are so willing to fight. 0.96

01:17:55.000 Is there video of it?

01:17:56.000 Oh, here we go.

01:17:57.000 Because it's spilled out onto the field.

01:17:59.000 Three critically injured.

01:18:00.000 Wow.

01:18:01.000 In Mexico City.

01:18:02.000 Tell you what, bro.

01:18:03.000 Mexicans have a long history of combat sports.

01:18:06.000 Look at it, Joe.

01:18:07.000 The whole stadium is just flooded with people just...

01:18:10.000 This looks like people are just running to me.

01:18:13.000 Look at that guy kicking, punching. 0.75

01:18:15.000 What are they fighting over?

01:18:16.000 That guy kicked and then fell down himself, and then he fell down and he hit him.

01:18:19.000 Oh my goodness.

01:18:19.000 Look at that guy with the chair.

01:18:20.000 Oh my goodness.

01:18:21.000 They're on the field.

01:18:22.000 They're beating each other with chairs.

01:18:24.000 A lot of guys with no shirts on.

01:18:26.000 That guy looks so hammered with the chair.

01:18:28.000 He doesn't even know who to hit.

01:18:30.000 He just found the chair.

01:18:31.000 He kind of barely tapped that guy with the chair.

01:18:33.000 And he's like, no, this is too much.

01:18:35.000 He walked away.

01:18:37.000 He didn't keep swinging.

01:18:38.000 He tapped the guy with the chair.

01:18:40.000 He was like, what am I doing? 0.99

01:18:41.000 I'm going to kill somebody. 0.94

01:18:42.000 I got a job. 1.00

01:18:43.000 I got a family.

01:18:44.000 I found the chair.

01:18:46.000 22 hurt.

01:18:47.000 Look at it.

01:18:48.000 I mean, it's insane.

01:18:49.000 Look at him with the chair.

01:18:50.000 Watch.

01:18:50.000 The guy with the chair.

01:18:51.000 He's got it up in the air. 0.99

01:18:51.000 I'm going to fucking hit something. 0.99

01:18:53.000 Let me get out of here. 0.99

01:18:54.000 Ah, jeez.

01:18:54.000 I've got to go find my car.

01:18:55.000 Go back to the beginning because when he was doing it, he did hit somebody.

01:19:00.000 Back up a little bit because he hit somebody with the chair.

01:19:03.000 There was one moment.

01:19:05.000 Here he goes.

01:19:06.000 Watch.

01:19:07.000 He moves forward. 0.99

01:19:08.000 I'm going to hit somebody. 0.98

01:19:09.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:19:10.000 He kind of hit him in the butt. 0.99

01:19:12.000 Nothing serious. 0.99

01:19:13.000 He's got this, I'm threatening people with this chair! 1.00

01:19:15.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:19:16.000 And he walks away. 1.00

01:19:17.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:19:18.000 I gotta go home. 1.00

01:19:19.000 What am I doing?

01:19:20.000 Have you ever been, like, where a brawl takes place?

01:19:23.000 Where something happens and a brawl breaks out in the crowd?

01:19:26.000 I've been, yeah, there was like a, yeah.

01:19:29.000 There's a weird feeling in the air when those things happen.

01:19:31.000 Totally.

01:19:31.000 Where you feel like kind of anything can happen.

01:19:33.000 When you don't know what's happening, but the energy shifts and everyone's looking in a direction, and you don't know what it is, but you feel it.

01:19:39.000 Well, it gets scary. 0.99

01:19:40.000 Oh, shit, that guy got laid out. 1.00

01:19:41.000 Oh, my God, that guy's bleeding all over the place. 1.00

01:19:43.000 No, it was nasty.

01:19:43.000 Oh, they must have stomped him.

01:19:45.000 No, like the...

01:19:46.000 Oh, this family running away.

01:19:48.000 That's horrible.

01:19:49.000 Horrible!

01:19:49.000 You just take your kids to see a game and this is what happens.

01:19:52.000 Look out.

01:19:52.000 Go back to those pictures, Jamie.

01:19:54.000 I mean, scroll down the next one. 1.00

01:19:56.000 That guy is fucked. 1.00

01:19:57.000 That one right there, I mean, that guy is probably dead. 1.00

01:19:59.000 Look at his arm.

01:20:00.000 His arm's going in three different directions. 1.00

01:20:02.000 His arm's fucked. 0.99

01:20:03.000 For sure, that guy's got a broken arm. 1.00

01:20:05.000 Yeah, and then the other guy, the blood that's coming out of his head.

01:20:10.000 God.

01:20:11.000 It was like right at the end of the game.

01:20:13.000 Many of these people were actually presumed dead.

01:20:15.000 None of them, you said?

01:20:17.000 It said many of the people were presumed dead, understandably, when you see some of the stuff.

01:20:22.000 And unconfirmed reports out of Mexico stoked even more, claiming several fatalities emerged from the brawl.

01:20:28.000 Awful. 1.00

01:20:30.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:20:31.000 No, come on! 1.00

01:20:32.000 Keep it together.

01:20:33.000 Soccer.

01:20:34.000 God.

01:20:34.000 And you know, I would say, well, the good thing about baseball being boring is that you don't get this, but there was another problem with the Dodgers in this.

01:20:43.000 Look at the amount of people on the field.

01:20:45.000 The Dodgers and the Giants.

01:20:47.000 Someone always gets really messed up in the parking lot.

01:20:50.000 Yeah, sports.

01:20:52.000 Sports.

01:20:53.000 Well, sports are basically a proxy of war, right?

01:20:57.000 Right.

01:20:57.000 It's kind of like, it's like fake war.

01:21:01.000 Yeah, it's like a replacement.

01:21:02.000 Yeah, it's like a replacement of war.

01:21:03.000 Yeah.

01:21:03.000 Yeah, it's like when the Raiders are going to play the Dolphins.

01:21:09.000 It's basically, now it's Vegas, right?

01:21:13.000 It's basically Florida is going to war with Las Vegas.

01:21:16.000 Right, exactly.

01:21:16.000 And we get it out of our system in an hour and a half.

01:21:19.000 You know, that's what it was invented for.

01:21:21.000 That's what football was actually invented for.

01:21:23.000 Oh, yeah?

01:21:24.000 Yeah.

01:21:25.000 There was an article I read about, I think we might have even talked about it on the podcast at one point in time, about how football was invented to give people something to do that was like a replacement for war.

01:21:41.000 Right.

01:21:42.000 When they were in between, when there was no war to fight.

01:21:44.000 Yeah, and in the beginning of it, a lot of it was like Native Americans playing.

01:21:49.000 Like some of the best early players were Native Americans.

01:21:52.000 Right.

01:21:53.000 Yeah, I was reading this whole thing about the history of football.

01:21:56.000 I wish I could remember more details, but again, I don't really follow football either, so I casually was glancing at this article and then I gave up on it.

01:22:04.000 Yeah, but when you see how people are so passionate and passionate by it, it's like, well, would Cleveland be marching on Pittsburgh if they didn't have the Browns and the Steelers?

01:22:15.000 Like, would all these young men be just... 0.83

01:22:17.000 I think you need to give people things like that to do.

01:22:19.000 I think legitimately, when you get an enormous mass of people like the United States is, the United States is 300 and whatever million people.

01:22:28.000 Huge.

01:22:28.000 They need some things that they can root on.

01:22:32.000 Yeah.

01:22:32.000 They root for.

01:22:33.000 They need some things that are very important and serious to them.

01:22:36.000 Yeah.

01:22:37.000 It takes you out of your everyday.

01:22:38.000 Yeah.

01:22:38.000 It takes all that aggression and puts it towards something.

01:22:41.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 It does.

01:22:42.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 It does.

01:22:43.000 Were you ever a hockey fan?

01:22:44.000 No.

01:22:45.000 I was a hockey fan for a while.

01:22:48.000 What happened?

01:22:49.000 They did you wrong?

01:22:50.000 Yeah, they just went into...

01:22:51.000 I was with the Rangers as a kid, and then they won the Cup, and it was this huge thing.

01:22:55.000 And then for the next decade, they were just so bad.

01:22:59.000 It was just like I... So you're a fair-weather fan.

01:23:02.000 Is that what you're trying to say?

01:23:02.000 It was pretty fair.

01:23:04.000 Yeah, I guess so.

01:23:06.000 LAUGHTER I didn't just show up when they won the cup, but I bailed at a certain point.

01:23:12.000 Well, that one day that I went to see the Red Sox game, that I got into Taekwondo, from that day on, all I really cared about was martial arts, combat sports.

01:23:22.000 That's really all I was interested in.

01:23:23.000 I was always interested in boxing.

01:23:25.000 I always was a big boxing fan.

01:23:27.000 But then I got really into martial arts and that became my obsession.

01:23:32.000 So I didn't watch any sports after that.

01:23:34.000 Right.

01:23:35.000 No, you were doing it.

01:23:36.000 You were participating.

01:23:37.000 But it's also like the stuff that I watched.

01:23:40.000 I'd only watch combat sports.

01:23:42.000 I'd watch boxing or kickboxing.

01:23:44.000 There was no MMA at the time.

01:23:46.000 And no YouTube, by the way.

01:23:47.000 Yeah, nothing.

01:23:48.000 But I would get VHS tapes.

01:23:49.000 Right.

01:23:49.000 You'd get VHS tapes back when VHS came out.

01:23:52.000 Yeah.

01:23:52.000 I would record, like, say, if Marvin Hagler was fighting on HBO, I'd record it and watch it later, play it back.

01:23:59.000 God, this is good.

01:24:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:00.000 It's amazing.

01:24:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:01.000 Did you find the thing on the Origins of Football?

01:24:04.000 Oh.

01:24:06.000 I remember...

01:24:07.000 I think there's two different stories there.

01:24:10.000 There's definitely a story about the Native American roots in football, I know.

01:24:14.000 Yeah.

01:24:15.000 Because there was some...

01:24:16.000 It's like how Jim Thorpe got involved.

01:24:18.000 Oh, right.

01:24:19.000 Right.

01:24:20.000 You ever see the picture of Jim Thorpe when he's running in the Olympics?

01:24:25.000 No.

01:24:26.000 And he had one shoe that was a shoe that he found, and it didn't fit him right, so he had to put, like, two socks on.

01:24:35.000 Yeah, and he won.

01:24:36.000 And he won?

01:24:37.000 He won the gold medal.

01:24:37.000 Oh, my God.

01:24:37.000 Like, fucked up shoes.

01:24:39.000 And they were, like, shoes. 0.99

01:24:41.000 Yeah.

01:24:41.000 Oh, like dress shoes?

01:24:42.000 Yeah, they looked like shoes.

01:24:43.000 Like, that's all people had back then.

01:24:46.000 Right.

01:24:46.000 Like, the shoes they ran in?

01:24:47.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 Like, look at the image of them.

01:24:49.000 Like, look.

01:24:50.000 Oh my god.

01:24:51.000 It's like a wingtip.

01:24:52.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:24:53.000 I mean, it looks like it fucking barely fits him. 0.96

01:24:57.000 Jim Thorpe, legendary Native American athlete, had his shoes stolen just before he was about to compete in the Olympics. 0.96

01:25:03.000 He found a mismatched pair of shoes in the trash can and went on to win a gold medal wearing them.

01:25:08.000 He was also the first Native American to win a gold medal for the United States.

01:25:12.000 Wow.

01:25:12.000 Show a picture of his face.

01:25:15.000 Like, that is a hard man.

01:25:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:18.000 That's a guy who's not going to get stopped by a fucking pair of shoes. 1.00

01:25:21.000 God. 1.00

01:25:22.000 You know?

01:25:22.000 He should have played Batman.

01:25:25.000 No.

01:25:26.000 He's dead.

01:25:27.000 Look at his shoe there.

01:25:29.000 Look at that vintage shoe.

01:25:30.000 Yeah.

01:25:31.000 Oh, my God.

01:25:31.000 That's what they ran in.

01:25:32.000 It's just like a piece of leather.

01:25:34.000 It looks like there's some kind of traction on the bottom.

01:25:37.000 Yeah.

01:25:38.000 Some kind of thing on the bottom, I guess.

01:25:40.000 God.

01:25:40.000 You think about just the stuff that regular people could wear now compared to that.

01:25:47.000 Oh no.

01:25:48.000 God.

01:25:49.000 Everything.

01:25:50.000 Like everybody had like one pair of pants, one shirt, one sweater.

01:25:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:57.000 And that was it.

01:25:58.000 Whenever they show like baseball games and you show it, they were like, wow, they really dressed back then.

01:26:02.000 They wore suits and ties to the baseball game.

01:26:04.000 That's all they had.

01:26:05.000 Right.

01:26:06.000 It wasn't casual clothes.

01:26:07.000 You weren't putting on board shorts and a t-shirt.

01:26:09.000 Well, it was also a big event.

01:26:11.000 To go to something like that was a big event.

01:26:12.000 There was no television.

01:26:13.000 Right.

01:26:14.000 There was a thing we watched the other day.

01:26:17.000 It was when Jack Johnson fought Jim Jeffries in Reno, Nevada.

01:26:22.000 And you looked out at the audience.

01:26:24.000 First of all, there was no ladies there. 1.00

01:26:26.000 It was almost all men. 0.93

01:26:27.000 And everyone was dressed in a suit with a hat on.

01:26:32.000 When we were watching this, we were saying, like, imagine if you were a hat maker back then.

01:26:36.000 You're like, this business is never going away.

01:26:38.000 Like, look.

01:26:39.000 Look at the audience.

01:26:40.000 Everyone has a hat on. 0.99

01:26:42.000 Well, it's probably fucking sunny as shit, right? 0.99

01:26:44.000 Oh, for sure. 0.99

01:26:45.000 Fourth of July on Reno?

01:26:45.000 For sure.

01:26:45.000 You know what changed the hat?

01:26:47.000 What?

01:26:47.000 You know what put it out of fashion?

01:26:49.000 No.

01:26:50.000 JFK. What?

01:26:52.000 Yeah.

01:26:52.000 What?

01:26:53.000 He, when he came on the scene, he didn't wear a hat, and he looked so great, and he had that head of hair.

01:26:59.000 Really?

01:27:00.000 And that changed the fashion, and yeah, hats fell out of favor.

01:27:03.000 No kidding.

01:27:04.000 After Kennedy, yeah.

01:27:05.000 He was the guy?

01:27:06.000 Yep. 0.99

01:27:07.000 No shit. 1.00

01:27:07.000 They talk about it all the time. 1.00

01:27:08.000 I love hats.

01:27:09.000 I wear hats because I'm bald.

01:27:10.000 Oh, look at that, the beautiful hat.

01:27:12.000 I like that hat.

01:27:12.000 But look at the image.

01:27:14.000 I mean, that is- Yeah, that's amazing.

01:27:16.000 Everyone.

01:27:16.000 Every single person.

01:27:17.000 Everyone has a hat on.

01:27:18.000 And there was etiquette and there was rules.

01:27:20.000 You took your hat off when you saw a lady. 0.98

01:27:21.000 You took a hat off when you went inside somewhere.

01:27:25.000 They all have the same kind of hat, too.

01:27:26.000 Yeah, isn't that funny?

01:27:28.000 All a white hat, because they're all outside.

01:27:30.000 Yeah, I guess so.

01:27:31.000 And this was a famously hot day.

01:27:34.000 It looks it.

01:27:35.000 Yeah.

01:27:36.000 Pretty crazy.

01:27:38.000 Pretty crazy.

01:27:39.000 I think this is the article about the football team here.

01:27:42.000 Native American team that revolutionized football.

01:27:45.000 Oh, wow.

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 There wasn't even a lot of forward passing back then.

01:27:49.000 I remember this, I think it's the Coach Carlisle Indian School, 1879. Right.

01:27:55.000 And that had to do with Pop Warner, too.

01:27:57.000 That's a big guy in the industry of football.

01:28:00.000 It's a whole long thing, but what does it have to do with the military?

01:28:04.000 There was a different story.

01:28:06.000 Yeah, so then that's the other part of where I thought you're maybe mixing two things up.

01:28:09.000 There's a history of just the strategy of football as an Army-Navy.

01:28:14.000 It was a big thing back when they would compete to do strategies and just have stuff to do in the off time.

01:28:20.000 Listen to this.

01:28:21.000 Pratt knew that nothing could stop the westward expansion of whites, and he knew the Native American way of life was coming to an end, fearing that Native Americans might actually die out.

01:28:31.000 Pratt opened up the Carlisle School to save them from extinction.

01:28:36.000 The idea was to teach Native American youth how to survive in this strange new world.

01:28:41.000 Wow.

01:28:59.000 Wow, that's crazy.

01:29:02.000 I got really into Native American history about two years ago, two and a half years ago.

01:29:07.000 Uh-huh.

01:29:22.000 Because of this.

01:29:23.000 Sorry, I read that out loud.

01:29:25.000 Oh, sorry.

01:29:26.000 During the game, one of the boys tucked the football into that elastic band and ran down the field with the ball under his jersey.

01:29:41.000 As he sprinted down the field, the Harvard team was completely lost, unsure of who had the ball, until it was too late.

01:29:48.000 Furious, the Ivy League teams were constantly changing the rules to stop Pop Warner's trick plays, which, oddly enough, essentially gave us the rules of modern-day football.

01:29:58.000 They were almost like cheating, but not really. 0.99

01:30:01.000 There's no fucking rules. 0.98

01:30:02.000 All right, change the rules. 0.99

01:30:03.000 Do it again.

01:30:04.000 It's a little bit of little rascals. 0.62

01:30:05.000 That's a little bit like the war stuff.

01:30:06.000 A little shenanigan-y.

01:30:08.000 Right.

01:30:08.000 This Black Elk Speaks book, one of the things that this guy, I read two books about him, and it details he was one of the Native Americans that was alive when they roamed the plains and then lived through them being forced into reservations.

01:30:28.000 Okay.

01:30:29.000 And what happened with particularly the young men and children, how they were indoctrinated into white people's ways and taken from their families and cut their hair and tried to teach them how to behave like the white settlers.

01:30:42.000 Yeah.

01:30:43.000 It's rough.

01:30:43.000 If you think about this guy worrying that they were going to be brought to extinction, that came so close.

01:30:49.000 They...

01:30:50.000 What is that photo?

01:30:52.000 Oh, that's Black Elk Speaks. 0.98

01:30:53.000 That's the book.

01:30:54.000 It's an autobiography, rather.

01:30:58.000 We're always unsettling pictures from back then, photos, when you saw them all of a sudden in suits and ties.

01:31:05.000 It was just like, this is so unnatural for them.

01:31:10.000 Well, you know what killed the most of them was disease.

01:31:13.000 Right.

01:31:14.000 90% of all Native Americans died from disease.

01:31:18.000 Really?

01:31:19.000 90%.

01:31:19.000 Yeah.

01:31:20.000 Jeez.

01:31:20.000 Yeah.

01:31:21.000 The Europeans, when they came over, they had all these disgusting colds and bugs and fucking smallpox. 1.00

01:31:28.000 Smallpox, yeah. 1.00

01:31:29.000 It just...

01:31:29.000 Oof.

01:31:31.000 Burn through the entire continent.

01:31:32.000 Oh my god.

01:31:33.000 Yeah.

01:31:34.000 It's crazy.

01:31:35.000 It's crazy.

01:31:35.000 Imagine a disease that kills 90% of the people and there's no cure.

01:31:39.000 Nothing.

01:31:40.000 There's nothing you can do.

01:31:41.000 Good lord.

01:31:42.000 Imagine if you visit a place and there's a million people, like the Mayans, like you would visit Chichen Itza, a million people, thriving metropolis. 0.99

01:31:52.000 You come back in 50 years, there's no one.

01:31:54.000 It's abandoned.

01:31:55.000 Jeez.

01:31:56.000 Like, imagine that.

01:31:57.000 So scary.

01:31:58.000 Like, you want to bring your children.

01:31:59.000 This is the place that I saw.

01:32:00.000 I'm telling you, they're all wearing gold. 1.00

01:32:02.000 It's the shit. 1.00

01:32:03.000 It's amazing. 1.00

01:32:04.000 You go way out of your way to get there.

01:32:05.000 You're going to love it.

01:32:06.000 No one's there.

01:32:08.000 No one.

01:32:09.000 Oh, it's terrifying.

01:32:11.000 They abandoned so many of those cities.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:13.000 Have you ever seen those ruins?

01:32:14.000 I've never gotten to those.

01:32:15.000 I've seen one.

01:32:16.000 I went to Chichen Itza.

01:32:18.000 Was it cool?

01:32:19.000 It's amazing.

01:32:20.000 And it's so complex.

01:32:23.000 Like when you're walking around it and you think about how much Like, design is involved, and the implementation, and where are they getting these rocks from, and how are they cutting them, and how are they...

01:32:34.000 Have you ever seen, like, Chichen Itza, the layout?

01:32:36.000 Yeah.

01:32:36.000 Well, not the whole thing.

01:32:37.000 Like, I've seen the pyramid things.

01:32:39.000 Oh my god, it's amazing.

01:32:40.000 And on top of that, there's, like, these...

01:32:43.000 They had ritual human sacrifice, so they had these tables where it's like a guy's body.

01:32:52.000 The table is almost like he's laid out looking like this, and the flat part of the body where his torso was, was stone, and that's where they would kill people.

01:33:01.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:33:02.000 They would kill people and cut their fucking hearts out. 1.00

01:33:05.000 Ah! 1.00

01:33:05.000 On this thing in front of everybody. 1.00

01:33:07.000 And then they played soccer.

01:33:09.000 They played like a game.

01:33:10.000 It wasn't soccer, but it was some kind of crazy game.

01:33:13.000 And sometimes they would use a human head. 1.00

01:33:16.000 This is part of the speculation that they were kicking this fucking human head around. 1.00

01:33:21.000 Geez, I wonder why it didn't all work out. 0.99

01:33:24.000 Yeah.

01:33:24.000 There was also- Give him an ad for soccer.

01:33:26.000 Well, there's so little about that culture.

01:33:29.000 I mean, the scholars know quite a bit in comparison to the regular people, but I mean, even their knowledge of this culture is fairly limited compared to what we know about, say, the Greeks or the Romans or something like that.

01:33:42.000 Do you think there are cultures that we just don't even know about, that are under the sea, maybe, or- Yeah, for sure.

01:33:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that that's probably what all this Amazon stuff, I mean, not Amazon, Atlanta stuff is all about.

01:33:55.000 There's probably, there was something that was very, very complex that was thousands of years ago that was wiped out by asteroids.

01:34:03.000 Right.

01:34:04.000 That's what Randall Carlson believes.

01:34:06.000 There's actually a theory about it.

01:34:07.000 It's called the Younger Dryas Impact Theory.

01:34:10.000 And it coincides with the very rapid end of the Ice Age.

01:34:17.000 The Ice Age ended very rapidly.

01:34:19.000 Yeah.

01:34:19.000 And it ended somewhere around 12,000-ish years ago.

01:34:22.000 Uh-huh.

01:34:23.000 It's all in that range.

01:34:24.000 And they think that—this guy Randall Carlson has studied this his whole life, and he was a guest pretty recently.

01:34:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:29.000 He's been on multiple times, but he was on pretty recently.

01:34:31.000 Uh-huh.

01:34:32.000 There's all sorts of features in the Earth that you can show that indicate massive amounts of water that had gone through an area in a very short, like millions and millions and millions of gallons of water that's gone through an area in a very short period of time.

01:34:45.000 What would that mean?

01:34:46.000 That carved through the landscape of instantaneous melting of the polar ice caps, or rather the ice caps over North America.

01:34:54.000 North America, during the Ice Age, more than half of North America, all of Canada, was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice. 0.99

01:35:03.000 And that shit was all wiped out almost instantaneously. 0.99

01:35:08.000 By what? 1.00

01:35:09.000 Asteroid impacts.

01:35:10.000 Oh.

01:35:11.000 Yeah.

01:35:11.000 And so this is how they can tell, because this is what's fueled this Younger Dryas impact theory.

01:35:17.000 They've always wondered, like, what caused the extinction of a giant percentage of all the megafauna, like there was a North American lion, this giant sloth, woolly mammoths.

01:35:32.000 They all died off very quickly in this area, and they think that that also has to do with this impact theory.

01:35:40.000 They found that when they do ice core samples or core samples of the Earth, when they dig down, they get to the area around 12,000 years, what they find is a large amount of what's called iridium.

01:35:55.000 Iridium is very rare on Earth but very common in space.

01:35:59.000 And it most likely indicates that that is the time period where the Earth was bombarded.

01:36:08.000 Right.

01:36:09.000 Pummeled.

01:36:10.000 And so they think that that has to do with a lot of the really complex structures that they find in ancient Egypt and Turkey and a lot of these areas that are inexplicably old for how complex they are.

01:36:23.000 And so they would always try to attribute them to more recent peoples.

01:36:26.000 But this would sort of wrap that up better.

01:36:29.000 People at one point in time had reached a very high level of sophistication and they were basically knocked back to the Stone Age for a thousand years or so.

01:36:37.000 Oh, wow.

01:36:38.000 Civilization rebuilt itself.

01:36:40.000 Jeez.

01:36:40.000 So when they're talking about things, it's a very cool theory.

01:36:43.000 But it's very scary because that means that could happen to us.

01:36:47.000 Well, yeah, I know that.

01:36:49.000 You don't have to bring that up.

01:36:53.000 Yeah, no, that is terrifying.

01:36:55.000 All of a sudden you're back to sticks and fire.

01:36:58.000 That could happen.

01:36:59.000 You want some of this?

01:36:59.000 God.

01:37:00.000 What is it?

01:37:00.000 Coffee.

01:37:01.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:02.000 It could happen.

01:37:02.000 I know.

01:37:03.000 Do you smoke cigars, Tom?

01:37:04.000 I do.

01:37:04.000 Do you want one?

01:37:05.000 I would love one, actually.

01:37:07.000 Let's get crazy.

01:37:07.000 That's a great idea.

01:37:09.000 Let's get crazy.

01:37:09.000 That is an awesome idea.

01:37:11.000 I haven't had a cigar in quite some time.

01:37:14.000 Yeah.

01:37:16.000 Do they come from Cuba?

01:37:18.000 No.

01:37:19.000 Nicaragua?

01:37:20.000 Nicaragua.

01:37:21.000 They're actually JRE cigars.

01:37:24.000 Look at that.

01:37:25.000 Oh, no way.

01:37:26.000 Yeah, there's a company called Foundation Cigars.

01:37:28.000 They make awesome cigars.

01:37:30.000 Oh, beautiful.

01:37:30.000 They made a special cigar for us.

01:37:34.000 Oh, that's so nice of them. 0.99

01:37:36.000 Yeah, they're fucking good, too. 0.97

01:37:37.000 That's a beautiful thing. 0.88

01:37:38.000 Thank you.

01:37:39.000 I don't know enough about cigars to comment on what...

01:37:42.000 Just make it up like the sport thing.

01:37:44.000 Just start saying some stuff.

01:37:45.000 All you have to do is sense that the guy you're talking to knows even less than you do.

01:37:50.000 Thank you.

01:37:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:52.000 Yeah, but that's what people do, right?

01:37:54.000 That is the move.

01:37:57.000 That's the World Cup guy move. 1.00

01:38:00.000 This fucks. 0.99

01:38:03.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:38:03.000 You're welcome. 0.99

01:38:04.000 It is a weird thing, though, to want people to think that you're more knowledgeable than you are.

01:38:08.000 I know.

01:38:08.000 It's one thing to think you know something but be wrong.

01:38:10.000 Like, oh, I thought that was right.

01:38:12.000 But another thing is like to pretend that you know things.

01:38:15.000 But you know what? 0.99

01:38:17.000 Sometimes when you just admit that you don't know stuff, people act like you're not shit. 0.98

01:38:25.000 Like if you were like, oh, so who is that guy that... 0.98

01:38:29.000 Is that guy a good defensive end?

01:38:31.000 You don't even know?

01:38:33.000 Jesus. 1.00

01:38:33.000 Fucking idiot. 1.00

01:38:34.000 Right? 1.00

01:38:35.000 Yeah.

01:38:36.000 There is that thing.

01:38:37.000 You've got to kind of protect yourself at times.

01:38:39.000 Bro, that would be me. 1.00

01:38:40.000 Sometimes you've got to bullshit yourself. 0.99

01:38:41.000 If I went to a football game with some people, I'd be like, why'd they stop? 0.99

01:38:46.000 How come they're stopping?

01:38:47.000 What's the whistle?

01:38:48.000 Why does that guy have a whistle?

01:38:49.000 How about that little man with the striped shirt?

01:38:51.000 What if he gets run over?

01:38:53.000 He's out there.

01:38:54.000 What's wrong with you?

01:38:56.000 They're like, oh, I thought you were cool.

01:38:57.000 I thought you were one of us.

01:38:59.000 I remember reading this story about NBA referees that would shave points.

01:39:03.000 They were corrupt.

01:39:05.000 Yeah, the one guy, right?

01:39:07.000 The guys went to jail.

01:39:08.000 Didn't they, Jamie?

01:39:09.000 You knew about all that stuff, right?

01:39:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:11.000 The guys went to jail, didn't they?

01:39:13.000 Yes, he sure did.

01:39:15.000 Yeah.

01:39:16.000 I remember that guy.

01:39:17.000 Actually, just as you're saying, this was an NFL player today suspended for a year for betting on NFL games.

01:39:22.000 Oh, really?

01:39:23.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 Dirty.

01:39:25.000 Wait a minute. 0.97

01:39:25.000 Why can't you bet on a game... 0.97

01:39:27.000 That you're in?

01:39:28.000 ...if you're not in it?

01:39:29.000 There's a lot you could do to manipulate the points when it's one play that can change the game.

01:39:34.000 Well, if you're not in it.

01:39:35.000 But if you're not playing...

01:39:36.000 No, yeah, no, that's not...

01:39:37.000 He's in the game.

01:39:38.000 Yeah, but your old roommate from college is playing.

01:39:43.000 Right, and he can tell you if someone's hurt.

01:39:45.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 I think you can bet on a game that you're not in.

01:39:47.000 But why can't you bet on a game that you're in if you're betting to win? 0.99

01:39:50.000 Like, we're going to fuck them up. 0.91

01:39:51.000 I'm so confident I'm going to bet money. 0.99

01:39:53.000 I don't know that that's what was happening.

01:39:55.000 That's Pete Rose, right?

01:39:56.000 No, Pete Rose bet the other way, though.

01:39:58.000 He did?

01:39:58.000 Yeah, Pete Rose apparently bet the other way.

01:40:01.000 He did.

01:40:02.000 I love this label.

01:40:04.000 Isn't that dope?

01:40:04.000 This band, rather.

01:40:05.000 I'll get you some of those.

01:40:06.000 I think he said he never did.

01:40:08.000 I thought he said he did.

01:40:09.000 I thought he didn't bet against us.

01:40:12.000 I thought that was his thing.

01:40:13.000 Yeah, I thought so too.

01:40:14.000 Hey, I didn't bet against us.

01:40:16.000 I thought so too.

01:40:16.000 And then I read an article.

01:40:18.000 Oh, really?

01:40:19.000 Contrary to popular belief, Pete Rose bet against his team.

01:40:22.000 Which means...

01:40:26.000 So Barry Bonds is never going to be in the Hall of Fame?

01:40:28.000 That might not be true.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, no, I'm actually looking at what happened with this player, too.

01:40:31.000 It says a league investigation uncovered no evidence indicating any inside information was used or that any game was compromised in any way.

01:40:39.000 There was no evidence suggesting any awareness by coaches, staff, teammates, or any other players of his betting activity.

01:40:45.000 It took place during a five-day period in late November while he was away from the team and away from the club's facility on the non-football illness list.

01:40:53.000 And he was betting for his team?

01:40:55.000 I honestly don't know that part now.

01:40:57.000 It doesn't say.

01:40:58.000 Find out if Pete Rose bet against his team, because if not, we're going to have to edit that out.

01:41:03.000 I don't want Pete Rose to be mad at me.

01:41:05.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 I mean, I could be wrong.

01:41:07.000 I do remember reading that, but the thing is, I've read shit about me that's not true, so maybe writing things about him that's not true.

01:41:14.000 Yeah, even the thing we're about to look up might not be true.

01:41:15.000 Yeah, so he said in the book he never bet against the Reds.

01:41:20.000 Right.

01:41:21.000 I thought so.

01:41:22.000 But he was making bets, I believe, in a way that maybe he was managing the team so he could have done things to manipulate stuff.

01:41:30.000 Like by playing a player to win the game real hard tonight, fucking up tomorrow's game.

01:41:36.000 Playing a pitcher to get the strikes.

01:41:38.000 Oh, I see. 0.99

01:41:40.000 So he fucked the team by betting. 0.98

01:41:44.000 So he didn't make strategically wise decisions because he was trying to cover a point spread? 0.99

01:41:49.000 And that's probably why he got in trouble.

01:41:51.000 Whether or not that actually happened or was speculation, I think that's where I'm like, I wasn't even alive then.

01:41:57.000 Well, that's why betting on it, all these questions come up.

01:42:01.000 That's why you can't do it.

01:42:02.000 Would you just look up Pete Rose actually did bet against his team?

01:42:07.000 Look, I'm 100% looking.

01:42:09.000 Quotes from Pete Rose.

01:42:10.000 Quote from Dan Patrick's show.

01:42:12.000 I bet on my team every night.

01:42:14.000 I didn't bet on my team four nights a week.

01:42:17.000 I bet on my team to win every night because I loved my team.

01:42:20.000 I believed in my team.

01:42:21.000 I did everything in my power every night to win that game. 0.99

01:42:24.000 So the story that I read that said that he didn't bet on his team, that he bet against his team, that's horseshit. 0.99

01:42:30.000 Probably. 0.94

01:42:31.000 I don't think they believe him because they would say, of course you're saying that.

01:42:35.000 Right.

01:42:36.000 According to him.

01:42:37.000 The problem is, I don't know how many gambling junkies you've ever met.

01:42:40.000 Do you know any?

01:42:41.000 Not really. 0.99

01:42:42.000 I've known quite a few that have real problems, and those motherfuckers will come up with any reason at all to gamble. 1.00

01:42:50.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:42:51.000 And they're sick. 1.00

01:42:53.000 It's like, do you remember when Kitty Dukakis was drinking aftershave or some shit? 1.00

01:42:58.000 She was so sick. 0.99

01:42:59.000 She was an alcoholic and she was so sick that she was drinking whatever she could find.

01:43:05.000 That's a thing with the gamblers.

01:43:07.000 It's a sickness.

01:43:10.000 How do you feel about gambling being now available to everybody all over the country?

01:43:17.000 I think people need lessons in how to manage their thought process.

01:43:23.000 And I think gambling is exciting.

01:43:27.000 When I was in Vegas a few months ago with Whitney Cummings, Rose did not bet on the Reds to win in the four games.

01:43:37.000 Here it is.

01:43:38.000 The four that Rose didn't bet on, the Reds, were all started by Bill Gullickson.

01:43:43.000 The problem comes when you realize this.

01:43:45.000 If he bet the Reds to win every night, when the four nights he didn't bet on the Reds would send up a gigantic red flag.

01:43:52.000 The gamblers would know that Rose wasn't betting on the Reds, so this may be the right time to bet against them.

01:44:00.000 You might say Rose was still trying to win those games, and yes, maybe he was, but if you take a closer look at the games in question, it becomes even more disturbing.

01:44:09.000 And they break down each of these games in question.

01:44:12.000 So he might have bet against his team.

01:44:15.000 Too many questions.

01:44:17.000 It's just too much, you know?

01:44:18.000 Or just even by not betting, maybe he's paying back a debt to somebody he owed money to.

01:44:22.000 Right.

01:44:23.000 I'll not bet here, but you can make your money.

01:44:25.000 Right.

01:44:26.000 Right.

01:44:26.000 You can make money here.

01:44:27.000 Yeah.

01:44:28.000 Well, that's the thing. 0.95

01:44:29.000 When guys get into hock with loan sharks and shit like that, it gets super sketchy. 0.99

01:44:35.000 Oh, my God. 0.99

01:44:36.000 I knew a comic, and this was a comic in Boston, and he worked for the mob.

01:44:42.000 Because the mob ran one of the clubs in town.

01:44:45.000 When I say the mob, I mean, like, legitimate.

01:44:47.000 Like, you get paid in Coke or cash, up to you.

01:44:50.000 Really?

01:44:50.000 This kind of situation.

01:44:52.000 And this guy was a gambling addict, like a hardcore addict. 1.00

01:44:57.000 And he was placing bets for these mobsters, but they would make bad bets, stupid bets. 1.00

01:45:04.000 And... 0.99

01:45:05.000 One of the times they won, and it turned out he wasn't really placing the bat because he thought they were going to lose all the time, so he would just take their money.

01:45:13.000 No.

01:45:14.000 And so they were gambling a lot of money, and then he didn't have the money.

01:45:19.000 And then they found out that he wasn't really placing the bat.

01:45:21.000 Oh, what happened to him?

01:45:23.000 I don't know.

01:45:25.000 Is he gone?

01:45:26.000 He's alive.

01:45:26.000 He is?

01:45:27.000 He left Boston, though.

01:45:28.000 Oh.

01:45:29.000 Yeah, How to Leave Boston.

01:45:30.000 Oh my god.

01:45:32.000 That's a movie. 0.99

01:45:33.000 He did a bunch of sketchy shit in Vegas too. 1.00

01:45:35.000 He was a gambling addict and he lived in Vegas and he got his next door neighbor to lend him some money to some little old lady and he fucked her over the money. 1.00

01:45:43.000 Jeez. 0.99

01:45:43.000 It was like a whole story written about him. 0.99

01:45:44.000 It's a sickness.

01:45:45.000 It's a sickness.

01:45:46.000 It is.

01:45:47.000 It was a story in a newspaper about him.

01:45:50.000 It's like being a heroin addict.

01:45:52.000 Yeah, so we've known that forever.

01:45:55.000 You had to travel to Vegas or you had to travel to Reno or Atlantic City.

01:46:01.000 And now you can just open up your phone and anyone can do it.

01:46:06.000 But they have Gambling Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous, where you can learn how to not gamble.

01:46:11.000 Just like they have...

01:46:13.000 People get addicted to everything, man.

01:46:16.000 I know.

01:46:16.000 They get addicted to dieting.

01:46:18.000 That's one of the things that happens to people.

01:46:20.000 They get addicted to...

01:46:21.000 There was a guy who died recently, and he was addicted to working out.

01:46:26.000 More plates, more dates covered this guy.

01:46:28.000 This guy was...

01:46:29.000 He would sleep like four hours a day.

01:46:32.000 He worked out constantly. 1.00

01:46:34.000 He maintained like a 5% body fat year-round, and his fucking heart gave out. 0.99

01:46:39.000 And he was in his 20s. 0.99

01:46:41.000 He was in his 20s.

01:46:42.000 So this guy's like ripped.

01:46:44.000 Looks like he's in phenomenal...

01:46:45.000 Literally worked himself to death.

01:46:48.000 There was an article in the paper yesterday, I think.

01:46:51.000 Bigrexia?

01:46:53.000 Oh yeah, right.

01:46:54.000 Bigrexia.

01:46:54.000 Sure.

01:46:54.000 The same thing.

01:46:55.000 Young men are getting obsessed...

01:46:57.000 It's body dysmorphia.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, it's body dysmorphia.

01:47:00.000 It could be you never feel like you're big enough or you never feel like you're small enough.

01:47:04.000 It's basically the same kind of thing that's going on. 1.00

01:47:07.000 It's you have a distorted perception of what you look like and you think you look like shit and everybody looks at you like you're like a gorilla. 1.00

01:47:14.000 Right. 1.00

01:47:15.000 And he thinks he's too big.

01:47:16.000 He thinks he's, yeah.

01:47:17.000 I guess I have a little of that.

01:47:21.000 I picture myself as being really in shape.

01:47:25.000 I don't think that's the same.

01:47:26.000 That's probably healthier.

01:47:27.000 That kind of delusion, when you think you look good...

01:47:30.000 I'm sorry, what?

01:47:31.000 Delusion.

01:47:31.000 Delusion?

01:47:32.000 Delusion, it's not real. 1.00

01:47:35.000 When you think you look good, if you think you look good, but you look like shit, that's probably better. 1.00

01:47:41.000 Probably better for you, yeah. 0.99

01:47:43.000 Because you go through life like, I'm on cloud nine, baby.

01:47:46.000 Yeah!

01:47:47.000 I got it coming on, baby.

01:47:48.000 Let's get some pancakes for the table.

01:47:50.000 Yeah.

01:47:53.000 Yeah.

01:47:53.000 Oh, here's one I read.

01:47:55.000 I read a fucking study that said, I'll send you this, Jamie, and tell me if this is real. 0.99

01:48:00.000 A study that said that women prefer dad bods over ripped bods. 1.00

01:48:07.000 It was in The Independent.

01:48:08.000 I believe that.

01:48:09.000 He said, I told you this a while ago.

01:48:11.000 I believe that.

01:48:12.000 You don't even have to go into the details. 1.00

01:48:14.000 Shit ain't real. 0.99

01:48:15.000 That's true. 1.00

01:48:15.000 That shit ain't real. 1.00

01:48:16.000 They love a nice dad bod. 1.00

01:48:17.000 No, women say that because they don't want their husbands to feel bad. 1.00

01:48:21.000 Survey confirms women prefer dad bods over six packs.

01:48:26.000 Horse.

01:48:27.000 It's such a lie.

01:48:28.000 Horse. 1.00

01:48:29.000 Shit. 1.00

01:48:30.000 It is a lie. 1.00

01:48:31.000 Horse. 1.00

01:48:32.000 Shit. 1.00

01:48:32.000 It is true, because my wife will be like, you look good. 1.00

01:48:35.000 And I'm like, come on, you look good.

01:48:38.000 No, see, it's an emphasis on the word good.

01:48:40.000 Listen to the difference.

01:48:41.000 Here's the difference.

01:48:42.000 Ready?

01:48:42.000 You look good.

01:48:43.000 Or, you look good.

01:48:45.000 Right, exactly.

01:48:46.000 If she doesn't say, you look good, you don't look good. 1.00

01:48:49.000 She's just trying to, you don't look like a pile of shit. 1.00

01:48:52.000 You're my husband! 1.00

01:48:53.000 And then we watch a movie and then some guy will be on with his shirt off and she'll be like, oh. 1.00

01:48:59.000 You can hear her vagina moistening. 1.00

01:49:01.000 Hey, that's my wife you're talking about. 1.00

01:49:04.000 You hear this.

01:49:07.000 What's going on over there?

01:49:09.000 All of a sudden my glasses are steaming.

01:49:15.000 Did you turn the humidifier on?

01:49:17.000 Yeah, and you know, it's all different perspectives.

01:49:22.000 You see pictures, yeah.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:25.000 You see pictures when you're young and an athlete.

01:49:29.000 That's horseshit. 0.98

01:49:31.000 They don't prefer a dad bod. 0.99

01:49:32.000 That's not true.

01:49:33.000 It is not true.

01:49:34.000 It's not true.

01:49:35.000 No.

01:49:35.000 They might say it, but when they're alone with their friends, when they're alone with their friends, how'd you fill out the survey?

01:49:41.000 I fucking lied. 0.98

01:49:42.000 I don't want to hear it from George. 1.00

01:49:44.000 I don't want George to think he's gross.

01:49:46.000 He's not gross.

01:49:47.000 But he's not hot. 0.99

01:49:48.000 I mean, I close my eyes and I pretend my high school boyfriend's fucking me. 1.00

01:49:53.000 Oh, it's so sad. 1.00

01:49:55.000 It's not gross.

01:49:55.000 It's so sad.

01:49:56.000 He's a nice man.

01:49:58.000 He's a good husband.

01:49:59.000 He works hard.

01:49:59.000 He doesn't have time to work out.

01:50:01.000 He's so good with the kids.

01:50:02.000 He doesn't have time to work out.

01:50:04.000 He gets home from the office.

01:50:05.000 He's exhausted.

01:50:07.000 He's so good with the kids.

01:50:10.000 I'd rather him just hang out with us.

01:50:11.000 I don't want him going to the gym.

01:50:14.000 I don't mind if he has a dad bond.

01:50:15.000 What workout do I have to do to get rid of love handles? 1.00

01:50:19.000 Just gotta lose weight.

01:50:20.000 Stop eating all this delicious bread you gave me.

01:50:23.000 All right.

01:50:24.000 I'll keep them.

01:50:28.000 I have to say, that thing you were with Cameron when you were doing the kettlebell thing, that looked like my wrist would snap.

01:50:39.000 Well, you've got to build up to that.

01:50:40.000 That really?

01:50:41.000 Yeah.

01:50:42.000 Under your legs, back up.

01:50:43.000 It was this end part.

01:50:44.000 Yeah, it's called the long...

01:50:45.000 Well, you get used to doing that.

01:50:48.000 The move is called the long count.

01:50:51.000 And sometimes I add a bodyweight squat, an overhead squat to that too, which is even harder.

01:50:56.000 So what that is, is it's like two kettlebells in between your legs, clean, press, and then when I'm feeling really frisky, all the way down, squat, and then back up, and then again.

01:51:08.000 Clean, press, squat.

01:51:10.000 Yeah, you were doing this at the end, too.

01:51:12.000 You were putting it back.

01:51:12.000 Yeah, that's what the thing about kettlebells is.

01:51:15.000 You're swinging them, and you get really accustomed to using them, and you know how to decelerate the bell so it doesn't bang against your forearms.

01:51:25.000 Right, right.

01:51:26.000 But some guys wear a pad on the forearm so that the kettlebell can hit your...

01:51:31.000 I have those.

01:51:31.000 I don't use them generally, but I do have them.

01:51:35.000 It'll hit your forearm because it doesn't hurt your forearm.

01:51:37.000 Right.

01:51:38.000 But kettlebells, it's my favorite way to work out because I can work my whole body out.

01:51:44.000 What's great about that is if you do a thing, like say if you play tennis or something like that, that translates, that kind of strength, because you're making your whole body work as a unit instead of like curls or something like that.

01:51:56.000 Right, just isolating that one muscle and doing that one task. 0.69

01:51:59.000 Yeah, that's the only kind of workouts I do mostly.

01:52:03.000 I mean, I do some stuff like I do dips, which is kind of isolating, and I do chin-ups, which is...

01:52:07.000 But most of the stuff I do is like these compound movements where there's a lot of things going on all at once.

01:52:13.000 So my body knows how to coordinate weight.

01:52:18.000 I'm doing push-ups now.

01:52:19.000 Good for you.

01:52:20.000 How many did you do in a row?

01:52:22.000 25. 100 in total.

01:52:25.000 That's great.

01:52:26.000 So you do like four sets of 25?

01:52:28.000 Yeah.

01:52:28.000 Nice.

01:52:28.000 That's a good amount.

01:52:30.000 Yeah, because...

01:52:30.000 What is this?

01:52:31.000 I think this is the article that this came from, right?

01:52:33.000 Yeah, that's the article.

01:52:33.000 The majority of people prefer Dadbobs to more toned...

01:52:36.000 Read the second paragraph, which describes how they got the data.

01:52:40.000 Okay.

01:52:41.000 As reported by The Guardian, 75% of single people who took part in the survey conducted by Dating.com were said to prefer so-called dad bod type, a label that has been thrown at men who aren't considered to have the athletic beach body that we've all seen in movies.

01:52:54.000 Of those who took the survey and believe themselves to have a dad bod, 45% of them admitted to putting hashtag dad bod in their bios as a way of showing off their proud physique.

01:53:06.000 So how many people that took the survey... 0.98

01:53:09.000 Yeah, dad bods are preferable because I fucking have one. 0.98

01:53:13.000 Half? 0.98

01:53:14.000 More than half?

01:53:15.000 Right.

01:53:15.000 That shouldn't be for men.

01:53:17.000 That should not be for men. 0.74

01:53:18.000 Right.

01:53:19.000 There's no way that should be.

01:53:20.000 People say most people prefer a dad bod.

01:53:24.000 That's deceptive.

01:53:25.000 Right.

01:53:26.000 Because you need to ask ladies when no one's around. 1.00

01:53:30.000 That being said, 70% of them answered said they've been working out more in the past few months to get in better shape.

01:53:35.000 Well, that's the thing about DadBod.

01:53:37.000 DadBod gives you... 0.97

01:53:38.000 It's not saying I'm gross and fat.

01:53:42.000 It's saying, I'm athletic, but I've got...

01:53:44.000 Like, that is the mentality, right?

01:53:46.000 Right.

01:53:47.000 I got a little fat.

01:53:48.000 Yeah, I was an athlete.

01:53:49.000 I played football 30 years ago.

01:53:51.000 I got a little chub on me.

01:53:52.000 You can't have men ask that.

01:53:57.000 You can't ask men that question.

01:54:02.000 Here's another one that I found.

01:54:04.000 This one might be even more preposterous because I read this one and I'm like, okay, they're grooming people.

01:54:10.000 It was guys saying that they get together with their buddies and they cuddle and sometimes kiss straight men, bromances, kiss, cuddle, and stand around naked together.

01:54:27.000 No, they don't. 0.99

01:54:28.000 Those are gay guys. 0.80

01:54:29.000 Nothing wrong with being gay. 0.55

01:54:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:32.000 But straight men who kiss, cuddle, and stand around naked together are gay. 1.00

01:54:38.000 Those are gay guys. 1.00

01:54:39.000 Yeah. 0.81

01:54:40.000 Most likely.

01:54:41.000 Yeah.

01:54:42.000 A strong percentage.

01:54:43.000 Yes.

01:54:44.000 I mean, maybe some of them are like really open-minded and like, I'll kiss you.

01:54:48.000 There's like three of those.

01:54:50.000 I don't know.

01:54:51.000 I'll kiss you right in the lips after this podcast is over.

01:54:54.000 Pandemic's over!

01:54:55.000 Yeah, with coffee and cigar breath.

01:54:57.000 I'll give you one right in the smacker. 1.00

01:54:59.000 But if you want me to go tongue to tongue with you...

01:55:01.000 Yeah, and you're in another world.

01:55:03.000 You're in another thing.

01:55:04.000 If you want to stand around naked together, like, why are you standing around naked?

01:55:07.000 Period. 1.00

01:55:07.000 Put some clothes on, you fucking savage. 1.00

01:55:09.000 Alright, so what about... 1.00

01:55:11.000 Put on some pants.

01:55:12.000 What are you doing, man?

01:55:14.000 What's this about?

01:55:15.000 So why are all of a sudden these guys having body issues?

01:55:22.000 Like, women have been talking about this forever, right? 0.82

01:55:25.000 In magazines and stuff, and they've been... 0.99

01:55:27.000 Because guys feel left out in the grind of fucking being objectified. 0.99

01:55:33.000 Right. 0.99

01:55:34.000 Hey, we feel bad too. 0.99

01:55:35.000 Hey, we're fucked over as well! 1.00

01:55:37.000 I had a fucking argument with a guy about this once, because men do try to find ways where they're victims to, and it's so dumb. 1.00

01:55:45.000 And this fucking dummy literally said, we were talking about the plight that men have, and he goes, you know, statistically speaking, men actually get raped more than women. 1.00

01:55:54.000 I go, yeah, buy other men, you fucking idiot. 1.00

01:55:57.000 That's the dumbest thing. 1.00

01:55:59.000 All that means is we're so gross, we fuck each other. 1.00

01:56:03.000 That's all that means. 0.99

01:56:05.000 The idea that somehow, oh, we're victims too. 1.00

01:56:09.000 There's fucking packs of cheerleaders out there raping football players. 1.00

01:56:12.000 That's not what's going on, man. 1.00

01:56:14.000 You just declared that men are even worse than we thought.

01:56:16.000 Yes!

01:56:18.000 I had a bit about it back in the day.

01:56:21.000 But men do that. 0.99

01:56:23.000 Some weak men who don't want to admit that it's fucking hard to be a woman, man. 0.99

01:56:28.000 Look, it's so hard. 1.00

01:56:29.000 Women make a baby in their body. 1.00

01:56:32.000 It takes forever.

01:56:33.000 And then their body gains all this weight. 1.00

01:56:37.000 Their vagina gets destroyed as this baby comes out. 1.00

01:56:40.000 They have all this healing they have to do afterwards. 0.97

01:56:42.000 And in many circles, they're expected to work full time.

01:56:45.000 Right.

01:56:46.000 Imagine!

01:56:47.000 Imagine! 0.89

01:56:48.000 You're raising a child, you gotta handle the kid, and then you gotta leave your kid with someone you fucking barely know so you can work and you gotta compete with men and try to be this like... 0.99

01:56:59.000 And still menstruating once a month. 0.99

01:57:01.000 Oh my god.

01:57:02.000 Forget it.

01:57:02.000 Yeah.

01:57:03.000 Forget it.

01:57:04.000 And you know, just imagine the resources required to grow a human in your body.

01:57:09.000 Right.

01:57:10.000 And imagine there's anything remotely comparable that a man has to do outside of war.

01:57:14.000 Just imagine all of the solutions we would have if men were the ones doing it. 0.99

01:57:18.000 There'd be tanks, there'd be all of these different things.

01:57:21.000 How many abortions would there be? 1.00

01:57:23.000 Oh my god.

01:57:24.000 If guys got pregnant, they would be everywhere. 1.00

01:57:28.000 They'd be like Jiffy Lubes.

01:57:30.000 They would be everywhere.

01:57:33.000 100%.

01:57:33.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:57:34.000 This discussion would be, this whole national debate. 0.99

01:57:37.000 And all the moral dilemma about whether or not it's okay to have an abortion would go out the fucking window. 0.99

01:57:42.000 Out the window. 1.00

01:57:43.000 No, of course.

01:57:44.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:57:45.000 Guys are the worst. 0.85

01:57:46.000 Well, you know, it's a testosterone thing. 0.94

01:57:50.000 It's also like we have the genetics in us that are the same genetics as people that lived during savage times thousands of years ago.

01:58:01.000 We're the exact same thing.

01:58:03.000 We're the exact same version of human beings pretty much.

01:58:07.000 If you took a person from 10,000 years ago and you put them in a movie theater and dressed them up with a baseball hat on, they'd They blend right in.

01:58:16.000 They'd probably be smaller because they didn't have any food back then.

01:58:19.000 Right.

01:58:19.000 But they would be real similar.

01:58:21.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:58:22.000 Real fucking similar. 0.97

01:58:23.000 No, we haven't really changed that much. 0.98

01:58:25.000 Very little.

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:26.000 We just have more access to good food, nutrition, but genetics, they say, take like 10,000 years to establish like really great changes in the genome.

01:58:35.000 Jeez.

01:58:36.000 In terms of like, obviously I don't know what I'm talking about.

01:58:38.000 I'm just saying words.

01:58:40.000 I'm believing every word of it.

01:58:43.000 I'm in.

01:58:44.000 No, but it does make sense.

01:58:45.000 I don't think we're much different.

01:58:46.000 No, we're not.

01:58:47.000 I don't think we're much different than people that lived in a time where everyone was killing everybody with a hatchet.

01:58:52.000 I know.

01:58:53.000 That's what always blows me away.

01:58:55.000 I always think they had to have been so different.

01:58:58.000 When I just read stories about that, or when you're talking about Black Elk and all this kind of stuff, no, they were you and I. Dealing with it.

01:59:06.000 It was the same person, the same thing, but dealing with that set of circumstances.

01:59:12.000 Yeah.

01:59:12.000 It's bonkers.

01:59:14.000 It's crazy because that's one of the reasons why human beings have so much anxiety and that's one of the reasons why we have so much violence inside of us.

01:59:23.000 It's not because society demands you be violent.

01:59:26.000 It's a lot of it is like we just have this leftover code That's in our bodies that is very confused as to why it's in a cubicle.

01:59:34.000 Right, right.

01:59:35.000 Why am I in traffic all day?

01:59:37.000 Why am I in a cubicle?

01:59:39.000 My body has requirements that it's not meeting, living like this.

01:59:44.000 Yeah, it's totally different.

01:59:46.000 And then we're going to go into the metaverse and we're going to do even less.

01:59:49.000 How long after Zuckerberg launches the metaverse do you join up?

01:59:58.000 A couple, like a week.

02:00:02.000 I bet it's gonna be so fun.

02:00:04.000 I'll tell you what.

02:00:05.000 That's the problem.

02:00:05.000 No dad bods in the metaverse.

02:00:07.000 Right.

02:00:07.000 No dad bods.

02:00:08.000 Right.

02:00:09.000 Exactly.

02:00:10.000 Everyone's gonna be hot.

02:00:11.000 Everyone's gonna be hot.

02:00:11.000 The only time a dad bod's gonna be hot is when food becomes, like, scarce.

02:00:17.000 Right.

02:00:17.000 Like, remember the Rubenesque women back in the day?

02:00:20.000 Right, right, right.

02:00:20.000 They were hot.

02:00:21.000 All the paintings of, yeah, exactly. 0.95

02:00:22.000 Big ol' fat ladies were hot. 1.00

02:00:23.000 It showed luxury. 0.97

02:00:24.000 Right.

02:00:24.000 It showed wealth.

02:00:26.000 Yes.

02:00:26.000 You could eat all you wanted.

02:00:28.000 Just sit around eating grapes.

02:00:30.000 You're a woman of luxury.

02:00:32.000 I don't know.

02:00:33.000 The metaverse, it sounds exciting and terrifying at the same time.

02:00:37.000 Dude, it's going to be so fun.

02:00:38.000 That's what the problem is going to be.

02:00:40.000 You and I, we're going to link up on the metaverse. 0.99

02:00:44.000 You're going to be still trapped in L.A. like a fool. 0.97

02:00:47.000 L.A.'s nice again. 0.99

02:00:48.000 I'll be out here in Freedom Town.

02:00:50.000 Oh, L.A.'s nice.

02:00:51.000 People don't get arrested for anything.

02:00:52.000 It's great.

02:00:53.000 It's awesome.

02:00:54.000 They just break into your house and loot you.

02:00:56.000 Well, there's a lot of crime, sure.

02:00:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:58.000 What a great thing to have around your whole family.

02:01:00.000 Crime.

02:01:01.000 Well, there's crime everywhere.

02:01:02.000 What is this, Jamie?

02:01:03.000 What are you showing me here?

02:01:04.000 This is the new, I would call it a competitor to what the metaverse is.

02:01:09.000 A Viverse.

02:01:10.000 So this is augmented reality.

02:01:11.000 Right, so this is what the Vive is showing as what they're calling the Viveverse.

02:01:15.000 Oh.

02:01:16.000 Viveverse.

02:01:17.000 Based around HTC Vive.

02:01:18.000 Okay, I want you to look at that.

02:01:20.000 Back that up again.

02:01:20.000 Back that up a little bit.

02:01:21.000 Look at the athlete on the left-hand side.

02:01:24.000 See that?

02:01:25.000 That's what men want to look like. 0.88

02:01:27.000 That's what women want. 1.00

02:01:28.000 That's why she's not looking at her body, notice?

02:01:30.000 She's looking at hot men. 1.00

02:01:32.000 She's running, thinking about getting some gladiator dick. 1.00

02:01:36.000 That's what she's thinking. 1.00

02:01:37.000 She's thinking, I'm going to get a nice toned butt and I'm going to get that big fucking savage look. 1.00

02:01:42.000 Oh, look how she shrunk down in the metaverse. 1.00

02:01:44.000 Go back and look at that again.

02:01:45.000 Before she did that, look at what she really looks like.

02:01:47.000 And then watch this.

02:01:49.000 Oh, she lost 80 pounds. 1.00

02:01:51.000 I liked her before.

02:01:52.000 Yeah, she looks like a little kid now.

02:01:53.000 Yeah, I liked her before. 0.87

02:01:54.000 She looked great.

02:01:55.000 Go back to what she looked like.

02:01:57.000 Yeah.

02:01:57.000 She looks like a nice-looking gal.

02:01:59.000 Yeah.

02:02:00.000 But you can do anything.

02:02:01.000 She's womanly. 1.00

02:02:02.000 Why, you don't even have to be a person.

02:02:04.000 Yeah, but she'd lost too much weight.

02:02:06.000 Like, if that was your wife, you'd be like, honey, have a sandwich. 1.00

02:02:08.000 Yeah, come on now. 0.88

02:02:09.000 Come on, honey, what are you doing?

02:02:10.000 I don't like you this skinny.

02:02:11.000 I don't know.

02:02:12.000 I don't know how...

02:02:13.000 Well...

02:02:15.000 Look, they're all dancing.

02:02:15.000 You can go to a club.

02:02:16.000 You can do anything.

02:02:17.000 You can fly.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, you're having fun.

02:02:19.000 You can do all the stuff.

02:02:20.000 You can buy...

02:02:21.000 You're a cat!

02:02:22.000 Grandma sent an invitation.

02:02:23.000 You're a kitty cat! 0.99

02:02:27.000 I want to be a dog.

02:02:28.000 I'd rather be a dog.

02:02:29.000 I'd rather be a dog.

02:02:32.000 The pure joy that dogs have...

02:02:35.000 I'm going to send you this, Jamie.

02:02:37.000 This is like the funniest thing that I saw, or the happiest thing that I saw today.

02:02:42.000 It made me...

02:02:43.000 This is why...

02:02:44.000 I mean, there's a lot of reasons why I love dogs.

02:02:47.000 Of course.

02:02:47.000 This is one of them.

02:02:49.000 I'm going to send you this, Jimmy.

02:02:51.000 I had a good post of these three dogs taking a picture.

02:02:54.000 I reposted from somebody.

02:02:56.000 Did you see that...

02:02:57.000 Did you see that...

02:02:58.000 I don't know if it...

02:03:00.000 It wasn't an elk.

02:03:00.000 It looked like an elk.

02:03:01.000 It looked like a smaller...

02:03:04.000 What is it?

02:03:05.000 Nature is Metal.

02:03:07.000 Running down the mountain.

02:03:08.000 Oh, that was a chamois.

02:03:10.000 Holy cow! 0.96

02:03:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:03:12.000 They live in the mountain.

02:03:13.000 Watch this.

02:03:13.000 Watch this dog.

02:03:14.000 She lets this dog out.

02:03:15.000 Check this out.

02:03:19.000 This dog.

02:03:20.000 She lets the dog out.

02:03:21.000 Give me the volume because you can hear it.

02:03:22.000 Watch this dog. 0.94

02:03:23.000 Look at this dog.

02:03:27.000 That dog is so happy.

02:03:29.000 He knows exactly what's going to happen.

02:03:30.000 By the way, when I used to take Marshall running in the hills when I lived in California, I would let him out of the truck.

02:03:36.000 He would immediately just start running.

02:03:37.000 He loved it.

02:03:38.000 He was so happy.

02:03:39.000 Look at this dog.

02:03:41.000 Just leap.

02:03:43.000 That's a joy.

02:03:44.000 So happy.

02:03:45.000 That's like dogs play.

02:03:47.000 I know.

02:03:48.000 I mean, cats play too, right?

02:03:49.000 Maya have a black lab and she just wants to play 24 hours a day. 1.00

02:03:53.000 And I feel so bad when you're just lazy and you're just sitting around and she's like, gets a thing in her mouth like, let's go.

02:04:00.000 Yeah.

02:04:00.000 And it's like.

02:04:01.000 Labs are the best.

02:04:02.000 They're so nice.

02:04:03.000 So nice.

02:04:04.000 I have a golden retriever, but he's, you know, it's the same thing.

02:04:07.000 They're both super, super sweet dogs.

02:04:10.000 So emotional and smart.

02:04:12.000 Sweet.

02:04:12.000 So sweet.

02:04:13.000 What's fucked is, people turned them into that. 0.98

02:04:17.000 Like, all these dogs, at one point in time, you go down the genetic history, they used to be wolves. 0.99

02:04:22.000 Yeah.

02:04:23.000 They used to be a wolf that came near the fire, and we gave them some food, and they eventually domesticated them, and then they turned them into poodles.

02:04:29.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:04:30.000 I mean, that is what, I don't know how the fuck they did it, and we really don't know. 0.95

02:04:34.000 A lot of inbreeding, and we also have a pug, and that is not really a dog. 0.97

02:04:40.000 Yeah.

02:04:41.000 They're the most inbred, right? 0.54

02:04:42.000 Or whatever they are. 0.55

02:04:43.000 Oh, my God.

02:04:44.000 You know what's so funny?

02:04:45.000 He's funny-looking to begin with, and then if we're sitting outside in the sun, you can see everything.

02:04:51.000 It's like, you're a mess.

02:04:54.000 His little nose goes off to the side.

02:04:56.000 His jaw is kind of weird.

02:04:58.000 They're lovable, but man.

02:05:00.000 This is what's happening to humans.

02:05:02.000 Yeah.

02:05:03.000 I mean, this is why the conversation about a dad bot is even happening.

02:05:05.000 It's because at one point in time, there wouldn't be any thought about it.

02:05:08.000 Like, you want a Viking.

02:05:09.000 Viking is going to survive the war.

02:05:11.000 Right.

02:05:11.000 You know, you don't want...

02:05:13.000 But we don't need that anymore.

02:05:14.000 Yeah.

02:05:15.000 Now you go to the metaverse.

02:05:16.000 Right.

02:05:17.000 Yeah, and you sit around.

02:05:18.000 Yeah.

02:05:18.000 Look at that little fella.

02:05:19.000 Yeah.

02:05:20.000 Look at little Frank.

02:05:22.000 Look at that little fella. 1.00

02:05:24.000 That one point in time...

02:05:25.000 That's my dog.

02:05:26.000 If you follow that...

02:05:27.000 Is that your dog?

02:05:28.000 That's my Frank, yeah.

02:05:29.000 Yeah, that's Frank.

02:05:30.000 He's a little cutie.

02:05:31.000 Yeah, he's so cute.

02:05:31.000 If you follow that dog's genetics, you go all the way back, you find a wolf.

02:05:37.000 I mean, how many thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago?

02:05:40.000 Right, right.

02:05:40.000 That was a wolf, and somehow or another they turned it into a little tiny, flat-in-a-faced little thing that can't feed itself.

02:05:49.000 No, and they literally bred those dogs to cuddle with the humans.

02:05:54.000 The emperors used to have these big sleeves, and they would be inside them and cuddle them, and that's what he is.

02:05:59.000 Like, if you watch TV, he just, who's ever there, it's not, it's just whatever warm human being, he climbs up and just lays on you.

02:06:06.000 Yeah.

02:06:06.000 And it's just...

02:06:07.000 And you can't get up.

02:06:08.000 Remember when your kids were really little and they would just lay on you?

02:06:11.000 You couldn't even reach your phone because you didn't want to disturb them.

02:06:14.000 It was so peaceful and warm and beautiful.

02:06:16.000 That's what the bug does.

02:06:19.000 Except he's snoring and slobbering at the same time.

02:06:22.000 There's no need for them to be ferocious.

02:06:24.000 There's no need for them to have strong jaws that can crush bones anymore. 0.75

02:06:28.000 So they slowly turned into what...

02:06:31.000 And that's what's happening to people.

02:06:33.000 That's what's happening to humans.

02:06:35.000 We used to be, you know, like Neanderthals were like 5'5", 200 pounds, solid muscle, dense bones, thick heads.

02:06:44.000 And then we slowly became, you know, what you see now.

02:06:49.000 These sort of doughy things that break their hips when they fall down.

02:06:53.000 Remember WALL-E? You remember that animated film?

02:06:56.000 Yeah.

02:06:57.000 I don't think I saw that.

02:06:58.000 It was good.

02:06:58.000 I think I saw a part of it.

02:06:59.000 No, I don't think I saw the whole thing.

02:07:00.000 Jeff Garland was the lead voice.

02:07:03.000 And they were just in these...

02:07:04.000 They were like baby people. 0.86

02:07:06.000 They were just all chubby.

02:07:08.000 And they were in these little walkers.

02:07:10.000 And they just laid there.

02:07:11.000 And they had iPad kind of things around them.

02:07:14.000 We are moving in that direction.

02:07:15.000 They weren't that far off.

02:07:17.000 The only thing that could save us is Putin.

02:07:19.000 Oh.

02:07:20.000 Putin in this war.

02:07:21.000 Oh yeah, there they are.

02:07:23.000 Wow.

02:07:24.000 Yeah, that's us.

02:07:25.000 Big sodas glide around.

02:07:27.000 Humans are going in that direction, that's for damn sure. 0.98

02:07:29.000 Yeah, just soft mush balls. 0.98

02:07:31.000 And denying that that's unhealthy. 0.95

02:07:33.000 That's what's really crazy.

02:07:35.000 The whole body acceptance movement and fat phobia, which is so crazy.

02:07:42.000 It's so crazy.

02:07:43.000 Here we are doing something unhealthy but awesome, smoking cigars, right?

02:07:47.000 It's really good, by the way.

02:07:48.000 I love it.

02:07:49.000 If we're smoking cigarettes or smoking all day, it'd be foolish for anybody to try to pretend that that's not bad for you.

02:07:58.000 Right.

02:07:58.000 It's bad for you.

02:07:59.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

02:08:00.000 I mean, this is marginally bad for you because you're not inhaling, you take a little bit.

02:08:05.000 You have a couple of cigarettes, those are not good for you.

02:08:08.000 You have a pack of cigarettes, that's not good for you.

02:08:10.000 You have a pack a day, like, ooh, you got a problem, Mike.

02:08:13.000 Yeah.

02:08:13.000 Like, how many years do you think you can go doing that?

02:08:16.000 No, I know.

02:08:17.000 You know?

02:08:17.000 I have a friend of mine who, he says that he would just smoke a couple a day and just had a heart attack.

02:08:26.000 And that was the first question.

02:08:27.000 How old was he?

02:08:28.000 He's probably 65. Does he drink too?

02:08:33.000 No, I don't think he's a drinker.

02:08:35.000 Overweight?

02:08:36.000 No, dad bod.

02:08:38.000 Sometimes 65 year olds have heart attacks and they're not taking care of themselves.

02:08:42.000 Yeah, I mean he doesn't work out or do anything like that.

02:08:47.000 Your body slowly deteriorates, my friend.

02:08:50.000 It atrophies.

02:08:52.000 Of course.

02:08:52.000 You know, it atrophies.

02:08:53.000 If you could see a time lapse of what you used to look like over the course of when you're 18 years old and full of piss and vinegar.

02:09:01.000 Yeah, my God.

02:09:02.000 Slowly watch your body expand.

02:09:05.000 I know.

02:09:06.000 Your shoulders shrink.

02:09:07.000 I know.

02:09:08.000 And you shrink.

02:09:09.000 Yeah.

02:09:10.000 And your body shrinks, too.

02:09:11.000 Yeah.

02:09:11.000 Old people shrink.

02:09:12.000 I'm shrinking.

02:09:14.000 I'm shorter than I used to be.

02:09:15.000 You are?

02:09:16.000 Yeah, my discs are less...

02:09:18.000 There's less meat in between my discs.

02:09:21.000 I have some...

02:09:22.000 They're way less significant now than they were before because I've taken care of it and done a lot of therapies for them and Regenikine and stem cells.

02:09:31.000 I do spinal decompression.

02:09:34.000 That's what sciatica is.

02:09:38.000 A lot of what sciatica is is your disc is protruding because it's compressing and your disc is pushing against the nerves and you get that pain that goes down your leg.

02:09:48.000 That's what that is.

02:09:49.000 That's your discs.

02:09:50.000 So that shrinks you.

02:09:52.000 As those discs compress, that disc makes your space in between the two spinal columns.

02:10:00.000 And as you see old people, when they start to shrivel up like that, that's what's going on, is that all the disc material, it's posture, and it's also they lack the strength in their back and the strength in their core to support themselves in a straight posture. 0.99

02:10:14.000 But when you see that slump, that's what's going on, man, is the disc is shrinking, and it creates all this arthritis and pain.

02:10:20.000 Doesn't it feel like tech, like medical advancement, like we should be able to be getting out of this stuff?

02:10:26.000 Well, they kind of can, but it's tricky.

02:10:29.000 Like, I was just talking to Michael Bisping, who was a former UFC middleweight champion who was on the podcast last week.

02:10:35.000 And he has an artificial disc in his neck.

02:10:38.000 Yeah.

02:10:38.000 And that's because his discs compress to the point where it was kind of like bone on bone.

02:10:44.000 Oof. 0.98

02:10:44.000 And it was fucked, so they had to put in a new disc. 0.98

02:10:47.000 So that brings your neck back to kind of a normal size. 0.99

02:10:50.000 But then the problem is, that's one disc, and the discs above and below start getting fucked. 0.99

02:10:55.000 Oh my god. 0.76

02:10:56.000 So he's about to get two new discs above and below that one.

02:11:00.000 Jeez, so now you're chasing it.

02:11:02.000 Yeah.

02:11:02.000 My friend Eddie, Eddie Bravo, he got one on his lower back.

02:11:05.000 Right.

02:11:06.000 And he gained an inch in height from it.

02:11:07.000 Yeah, a friend of mine.

02:11:08.000 They have to separate your discs and they shoved it.

02:11:11.000 Because he was basically bone on bone on his lower back.

02:11:13.000 So he was in pain.

02:11:14.000 In pain all the time.

02:11:15.000 Yeah.

02:11:15.000 Constant agony.

02:11:16.000 But the thing is, that thing sometimes, Even though they do that and it's better, sometimes you still have pain.

02:11:22.000 Yeah.

02:11:22.000 My buddy just had it done, and he's very active.

02:11:26.000 And I don't know if they fused it or they put one in, like you're saying, but he couldn't believe that he had been living with pain for as long as he was.

02:11:35.000 Like, the difference was so great.

02:11:36.000 Oh, that's awesome.

02:11:37.000 Yeah.

02:11:38.000 That's a great story.

02:11:39.000 Yeah, great story.

02:11:39.000 When that happens, that's awesome.

02:11:41.000 But it doesn't always happen.

02:11:42.000 Even his daughter was like, you're less cranky.

02:11:45.000 He was just dealing with it.

02:11:47.000 Is he athletic?

02:11:49.000 Yeah, he is.

02:11:50.000 He's very active.

02:11:51.000 They have these titanium discs that are articulated.

02:11:54.000 Michael Bisping, by the way, also has two artificial knees.

02:11:57.000 Whoa.

02:11:58.000 And he's in his 40s.

02:11:59.000 Oh, bionic.

02:11:59.000 And he looks very fit.

02:12:00.000 If you looked at him, you would never think there's anything wrong with him.

02:12:03.000 But his neck is in constant pain.

02:12:05.000 His knees are, like, they take the top of your femur and the top of your tibia, your shinbone.

02:12:10.000 They saw it off and screw this cap in place.

02:12:14.000 Amazing.

02:12:15.000 And he was tapping it on the microphone, and he'd hear it go click, click, click, click, click, click.

02:12:18.000 It's amazing.

02:12:19.000 I mean, we know so many people who've gotten new hips. 0.90

02:12:22.000 And I said to my wife, how amazing a world where you can do that.

02:12:28.000 All these people walking around with new hips and able to live their lives.

02:12:32.000 Not just live their lives.

02:12:33.000 My friend John Wayne Parr, he's a multiple time world Muay Thai champion.

02:12:37.000 He got a fake hip and now he's fighting again.

02:12:39.000 Wow.

02:12:40.000 Like he got it fixed.

02:12:41.000 Yeah.

02:12:42.000 And now he went back.

02:12:43.000 Pull up John Wayne Parr on Instagram.

02:12:45.000 There's videos of him kicking the pads.

02:12:47.000 And by the way, he's kicking with his left leg. 0.99

02:12:50.000 His left leg is the one that's fucked. 0.99

02:12:53.000 And so the guy's holding the pads and he's like... 0.99

02:12:57.000 He's kicking with like they saw your fucking leg and they put a screw that goes down into the bone and then you have a new like ball and socket. 0.99

02:13:07.000 You're a robot. 0.99

02:13:09.000 It's crazy because when he told me he was gonna get it done, I was like, oh, I felt so bad because here's a guy that's this warrior that's like world renowned.

02:13:18.000 Like when I met him, it was like I was so thrilled to meet him.

02:13:20.000 This is John Wayne Parr.

02:13:21.000 I've seen him fight so many times.

02:13:24.000 He's kicking the bag. 0.71

02:13:25.000 So, I think he's going to kick this bag. 0.97

02:13:28.000 I'm going to see if he kicks it with his left leg. 0.62

02:13:29.000 How old is he there, Joe?

02:13:30.000 He's in his 40s.

02:13:31.000 So this is he's kicking with his opposite leg.

02:13:33.000 That's his right leg.

02:13:35.000 But there's videos of him kicking with the left leg.

02:13:38.000 See, the left leg is the one that he had operated on.

02:13:40.000 That's him there kicking with the left leg.

02:13:42.000 Bam.

02:13:42.000 So that leg that he's kicking with, he's demonstrating some techniques.

02:13:47.000 Wow.

02:13:47.000 And that left leg, he has an artificial hip, man.

02:13:50.000 And look how fucking hard he's kicking. 0.99

02:13:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:13:52.000 Give me some volume so you can hear this.

02:13:53.000 It's like he's 18. Listen to this.

02:13:55.000 Listen to this.

02:13:56.000 What's that sound? 1.00

02:13:58.000 I mean, that motherfucker, you don't want to catch that on the chops. 1.00

02:14:01.000 No, that'll take out your ribs. 1.00

02:14:03.000 He's doing this with a fucking fake, a fake hit. 1.00

02:14:08.000 It's amazing. 1.00

02:14:11.000 Isn't that amazing?

02:14:12.000 That is amazing.

02:14:14.000 At that age?

02:14:15.000 Come on.

02:14:16.000 I mean, you know, I have friends at that age that do not move.

02:14:19.000 Bro, he's ten years younger than me.

02:14:21.000 Yeah, it's crazy. 0.99

02:14:22.000 That's what's fucked. 0.99

02:14:23.000 He's ten years younger than me. 0.99

02:14:24.000 I don't have those problems yet.

02:14:28.000 Is there a main supplement that you would take as a Anti-aging thing.

02:14:39.000 Yeah, well, there's no main.

02:14:41.000 There's many, many, many, many things you should take when you get older.

02:14:45.000 Like, hormones are a big one.

02:14:47.000 Hormone replacement's a big one, like replacing your testosterone.

02:14:50.000 I had a lot of friends who used to make fun of me for taking testosterone back in the day, and they're usually younger than me.

02:14:55.000 And I'm like, now they're thinking about it. 0.99

02:14:57.000 I'm like, haha, told you, bitch. 1.00

02:14:58.000 I'm like, what do you want to do? 1.00

02:14:59.000 Do you want to live your life where you don't have energy?

02:15:01.000 I had a conversation about it with a friend of mine, and he was like, well, why do you take it?

02:15:06.000 I go, because I want my body to work better.

02:15:09.000 When you're younger and you have hormones, your body heals better and it works better.

02:15:13.000 It's really that simple.

02:15:14.000 It's really that simple.

02:15:15.000 You can say, is vanity involved?

02:15:17.000 Of course, I like looking good. 1.00

02:15:19.000 Who likes looking like shit? 0.99

02:15:22.000 You can pretend you like it, but it's probably because you're trying to make an excuse for why you don't put in the effort to look good. 1.00

02:15:28.000 But at the end of the day, your body doesn't perform as well without the proper hormones.

02:15:34.000 And you get to a certain point in your life as you get older and older and older where your body... 1.00

02:15:39.000 So my thought was like, nip that shit in the bud early. 0.99

02:15:42.000 Where I'm on the decline and my doctor is like, this is what you do. 1.00

02:15:46.000 You just take a little bit, a tiny amount, like every three days.

02:15:50.000 I take a tiny amount and it just raises you back up.

02:15:54.000 And it raises you up to a healthy level.

02:15:56.000 You don't want to have a lot.

02:15:58.000 Yeah.

02:16:18.000 What is the thing, like if you had something in you, like a precancerous something or other?

02:16:25.000 That's growth hormone. 0.96

02:16:27.000 That's growth hormone. 0.96

02:16:27.000 That it accelerates the bad stuff as much as the good. 0.96

02:16:31.000 I'd take peptides for growth.

02:16:34.000 What peptides do is it makes your body produce growth hormone.

02:16:38.000 It makes it produce it at a higher level, which facilitates healing and recovery better.

02:16:44.000 But that's another thing, though.

02:16:45.000 You've got to make sure you don't take too much.

02:16:49.000 Bodybuilders take crazy amounts.

02:16:51.000 And that's not safe.

02:16:54.000 At a certain point in time, you're running the risk of something growing inside you.

02:16:58.000 But it's also manipulating your diet, making sure that you don't take in foods that are inflammatory and One of the things that when I switched over to this diet where I basically eat just meat and fruit, I lost weight, I felt slimmer, and I stopped having joint pain, which was kind of crazy.

02:17:14.000 Yeah.

02:17:14.000 You know what's weird?

02:17:16.000 After I fell on the ice, which sounds so old to begin with, but I slipped on the ice, and it's been messed up.

02:17:25.000 I felt whatever.

02:17:27.000 I had pizza.

02:17:28.000 We had pizza.

02:17:30.000 It inflamed it.

02:17:32.000 I was in so much pain after eating pizza.

02:17:36.000 Yeah, it's in flames.

02:17:37.000 Right.

02:17:38.000 In flames.

02:17:39.000 Those foods are delicious. 0.99

02:17:41.000 I fucking love pizza. 0.98

02:17:43.000 Yeah, of course. 0.98

02:17:44.000 But you felt the impact of it.

02:17:45.000 Yeah, but when I was young, I used to love coming home from Jiu-Jitsu and eating a whole pizza.

02:17:51.000 I'll get a giant pizza, pepperoni, and mushrooms.

02:17:55.000 And I would crush an entire pizza while I was watching TV. I was like, fuck it, I just did an hour and a half of jiu-jitsu. 0.99

02:18:01.000 I could eat this pizza. 1.00

02:18:03.000 I could eat this damn pizza. 1.00

02:18:05.000 It's a hormone. 0.99

02:18:06.000 Yeah, because I went for a physical, and I hope this isn't too boring, but I went for a physical and he was like, your testosterone levels are fine.

02:18:14.000 And I was like...

02:18:15.000 I bet he's saying that for my age.

02:18:17.000 It's like when your wife says you look good.

02:18:18.000 Right, right.

02:18:20.000 For your age, for someone who's dying, that's a pretty good, but it's not the level you want.

02:18:26.000 It's not optimum.

02:18:26.000 Right.

02:18:26.000 If you changed it, if you started adding to your testosterone, you'd feel a lot better.

02:18:32.000 It's everyone that I know that does it, they all call me up and go, oh my god, I feel so much better.

02:18:36.000 Can I get it on Amazon?

02:18:39.000 You can get some stuff on Amazon that supposedly stimulates your body's production of testosterone.

02:18:45.000 One thing that does work, there's a thing that's a plant-based compound called terkesterone.

02:18:51.000 And this is, I found out from the same guy, Derek, from More Plates, More Dates.

02:18:55.000 Oh, you didn't pull up that video of that guy that died from overworking out.

02:19:01.000 Oh God, yeah.

02:19:02.000 We're talking about people that have sicknesses.

02:19:04.000 Any kind of mental sickness.

02:19:07.000 Whether it's gambling or...

02:19:10.000 Alcohol, whatever.

02:19:11.000 A lot of it is the same thing.

02:19:13.000 It's like people fixate on a thing.

02:19:17.000 So this is the guy.

02:19:19.000 His name was Scott Murray.

02:19:21.000 That kid?

02:19:21.000 Yeah.

02:19:22.000 They said he had mental health issues already.

02:19:26.000 And then...

02:19:27.000 See if you can find what he looked like.

02:19:30.000 But he did not eat much.

02:19:33.000 He tried to keep his body mass very, very lean.

02:19:36.000 And he worked out so hard that he literally wound up dying.

02:19:41.000 Oh, he was sick.

02:19:42.000 See if they have any images of what he looked like when he was in full...

02:19:47.000 That's why I didn't pull it up earlier.

02:19:48.000 Oh, they didn't have any images of it.

02:19:50.000 See, like Scott Murray.

02:19:52.000 Pull up Scott Murray physique.

02:19:56.000 Pull up Scott Murray physique. 0.99

02:19:57.000 Because he was fucking shredded. 0.99

02:19:59.000 This guy was carrying around a very low percentage of body fat all year long. 0.99

02:20:05.000 There's an image of him there.

02:20:06.000 Fitness trainer and YouTube diet planner Scott Murray passed away.

02:20:13.000 So this is what he started at and that's what he became while he was on YouTube.

02:20:18.000 So look at the difference in the two images.

02:20:22.000 It says his death was brought on by an eating disorder and excessive exercise.

02:20:26.000 Jeez, that's sad.

02:20:28.000 Yeah, so you can literally work yourself to death.

02:20:31.000 Yeah, of course.

02:20:32.000 We always hear that about people that, like, they work 16 hours a day, they're constantly stressed out, and they have a heart attack and die.

02:20:40.000 That's kind of the same vein of things.

02:20:45.000 Yeah, your brain just starts going off in a weird direction.

02:20:49.000 It's hard to know when to chill.

02:20:52.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:20:53.000 And when you're a person that's obsessive and you're trying to accomplish something, if you're in a competitive business and you're putting in all the hours in the office or bodybuilding or whatever the fuck it is, people get crazy. 0.84

02:21:07.000 Look at the difference there.

02:21:08.000 See, he maintained around 5% body fat year-round, natural, and was burning roughly 5,500 calories per day.

02:21:17.000 His workouts would typically burn around 1,400 calories.

02:21:21.000 Oh my god.

02:21:22.000 That is incredible.

02:21:23.000 That's a lot.

02:21:23.000 That's so much.

02:21:24.000 Yeah.

02:21:24.000 He just got obsessed with getting...

02:21:28.000 Did you see that doc of the Mr. Olympia?

02:21:32.000 The guy who had the most Mr. Olympia's...

02:21:36.000 Ronnie Coleman?

02:21:37.000 Ronnie Coleman?

02:21:37.000 Was it Ronnie Coleman?

02:21:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:21:39.000 Ronnie's been on the podcast.

02:21:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:21:41.000 He's fucked, unfortunately. 1.00

02:21:43.000 His body is... 1.00

02:21:45.000 Yeah.

02:21:45.000 When he was on the podcast, he came in a wheelchair.

02:21:47.000 Right.

02:21:48.000 Yeah, that's what they were showing.

02:21:49.000 He was such a sweet, beautiful person.

02:21:53.000 He's the nicest guy ever.

02:21:53.000 He still looks good.

02:21:54.000 I mean, he's still fucking strong as shit. 0.99

02:21:57.000 And by the way, back surgeries. 0.99

02:22:00.000 Right.

02:22:00.000 His whole back is fused.

02:22:03.000 I think he's had nine discs fused.

02:22:05.000 Look at what he looked like when he was in his prime.

02:22:08.000 God.

02:22:08.000 My God.

02:22:10.000 Ronnie Coleman's a legend and nicest guy you ever could meet.

02:22:15.000 That's what came through in the doc.

02:22:16.000 It was just like, everybody loved him. 1.00

02:22:18.000 Look at the fucking size of him! 1.00

02:22:19.000 Look at that picture! 1.00

02:22:20.000 Oh my god, look at that bicep! 0.99

02:22:22.000 Bro, he was unstoppable.

02:22:24.000 When he was on top, he was unstoppable.

02:22:25.000 Unstoppable.

02:22:26.000 But he's so dedicated that he kind of destroyed his body.

02:22:30.000 Right.

02:22:30.000 Because Ronnie, unlike a lot of these Mr. Olympias, he used to lift heavy, heavy weights.

02:22:36.000 Right.

02:22:37.000 And that's what hurt him.

02:22:38.000 And by the way, he said on the podcast when he blew his back out, he finished the set.

02:22:44.000 Really?

02:22:44.000 He was in agony, but he was so tough.

02:22:46.000 He's like, fuck that. 1.00

02:22:47.000 I'm going to keep going. 1.00

02:22:48.000 Look at the weight on that.

02:22:50.000 Look at the weight!

02:22:51.000 Yeah, that's Ronnie Coleman, man. 0.99

02:22:52.000 I mean, listen, you only get to be a legend in that sport, like to be that big, by being a fucking fanatic. 0.97

02:22:59.000 So how did Arnold balance it? 0.98

02:23:01.000 Because Arnold looks like he's doing great.

02:23:03.000 He's doing fairly well, comparatively.

02:23:06.000 He can walk around and do stuff.

02:23:08.000 Unlike Lee, but Ronnie rather, I don't think Lee Haney was another guy that was built like that too, but Dorian Yates is a great example.

02:23:17.000 He's a guy that was on this podcast and he has quite a few injuries, like his shoulders are kind of fucked up and everything like that, but he concentrates on cardiovascular fitness now.

02:23:27.000 He smokes a lot of weed. 0.56

02:23:28.000 He was very chill.

02:23:30.000 And Dorian, that's what he looks like now.

02:23:32.000 See, Steve looks good.

02:23:33.000 He looks good.

02:23:34.000 But he can move around good.

02:23:36.000 That was how big he was back then.

02:23:38.000 That's him next to Ronnie Coleman.

02:23:41.000 God.

02:23:41.000 Look at those.

02:23:43.000 Preposterous. 0.98

02:23:44.000 It looks like those turkeys when they get too big on the breasts when they try and get the breasts going. 1.00

02:23:48.000 Or those cows when they take the myostatin inhibitors.

02:23:51.000 Oh my God.

02:23:52.000 Look at that back.

02:23:54.000 Man, oh man.

02:23:55.000 But Dorian is very healthy now.

02:23:57.000 He's got a great attitude about it.

02:23:58.000 Oh, that's good.

02:23:59.000 Was Dorian the one who couldn't beat Coleman all those years?

02:24:04.000 No, no.

02:24:04.000 He was a multiple champion.

02:24:07.000 I'm not exactly sure what happened when him and...

02:24:10.000 Did they compete against each other?

02:24:13.000 There was one guy who was like...

02:24:15.000 Coleman just kept edging him out in the dock.

02:24:18.000 Well, I'm sure.

02:24:19.000 There's probably quite a few.

02:24:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:20.000 Cohen was the fucking man. 1.00

02:24:22.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:22.000 But Dorian was a multiple-time champion. 1.00

02:24:24.000 Yeah.

02:24:25.000 I think there was a different era.

02:24:26.000 I think...

02:24:27.000 The Shadow versus the King.

02:24:29.000 93, 99. Oh, yeah.

02:24:31.000 He was before.

02:24:33.000 There it is.

02:24:34.000 Jeez Louise.

02:24:36.000 I don't know.

02:24:37.000 I would have to go into the history of it, but they're both former Mr. Olympias and they're both legends.

02:24:42.000 And Dorian was known as being like one of the most, for his time, one of the most massive guys anybody had ever seen.

02:24:49.000 God, look at those thighs. 1.00

02:24:51.000 Yeah.

02:24:52.000 God.

02:24:53.000 Crazy.

02:24:54.000 Amazing.

02:24:55.000 1997, Ronnie was in 2005. So Ronnie came afterwards.

02:24:58.000 Look at the size of Ronnie.

02:24:59.000 Look at the sides of them!

02:25:00.000 Alright, I'm gonna get some testosterone.

02:25:03.000 You're gonna need a lot more than that, bro.

02:25:04.000 The only way you get that big is incredible amounts of work and incredible amounts of steroids.

02:25:12.000 That's all steroids, yeah.

02:25:14.000 That's a sport where there are Natural bodybuilders, and they look really good.

02:25:19.000 Right.

02:25:20.000 There's natural bodybuilders.

02:25:21.000 Right.

02:25:21.000 They really do exist.

02:25:23.000 And they look great.

02:25:24.000 Right.

02:25:24.000 They look a lot better than me.

02:25:25.000 And they don't do anything.

02:25:27.000 They just eat well and work out.

02:25:29.000 All natural.

02:25:29.000 They never look like Ronnie Coleman.

02:25:31.000 No.

02:25:32.000 And Ronnie was like a gifted, genetically gifted guy who openly admitted he said he couldn't compete.

02:25:38.000 With the guys who did steroids.

02:25:40.000 So he didn't do steroids, I think he said, until he was 30. And then when he was 30, or I forget what age it was, but then when he started doing steroids, then he hit his legendary form.

02:25:53.000 These are all natural.

02:25:54.000 Those are natural guys?

02:25:55.000 I mean, I don't know if they all are, but I just typed it in.

02:25:58.000 It's possible to, like that guy with the board shorts right there, the colorful board shorts, click on that one, Jamie.

02:26:03.000 That is possible to achieve.

02:26:05.000 Right.

02:26:06.000 That's possible to achieve naturally.

02:26:07.000 I mean, that guy must work out incredibly hard, diets well, that's natural.

02:26:11.000 Oh, God.

02:26:12.000 That guy probably is fanatical in his fitness.

02:26:16.000 Fanatical.

02:26:16.000 His diet.

02:26:17.000 But the difference between him and a guy like Dorian Yates is pretty significant.

02:26:23.000 Yeah.

02:26:23.000 Now go to Dorian Yates.

02:26:26.000 Look at that black and white picture of Dorian down there on the far right, Jamie.

02:26:31.000 Where are my fingers?

02:26:32.000 Yeah, next to that.

02:26:33.000 Look at that.

02:26:35.000 Oh, God. 1.00

02:26:36.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

02:26:38.000 But are they funny? 1.00

02:26:40.000 He's actually funny.

02:26:41.000 Dorian's a fun guy.

02:26:42.000 Yeah.

02:26:42.000 I really enjoyed having him on the podcast.

02:26:44.000 I would imagine.

02:26:45.000 Whenever someone is...

02:26:46.000 I enjoy talking to someone that has just achieved insane levels of accomplishment in anything.

02:26:53.000 Oh my god, yeah. 0.99

02:26:53.000 Whether it's software design or fucking... 0.99

02:26:56.000 They're so impressive. 1.00

02:26:57.000 People who can do...

02:26:58.000 They're inspirational.

02:27:00.000 But you gotta...

02:27:01.000 Is there a time where you can't do that anymore?

02:27:06.000 How long can you compete at a certain level of RPMs before your brain or your body...

02:27:13.000 Yeah, there's a limit.

02:27:15.000 Yeah.

02:27:16.000 It's amazing.

02:27:18.000 So like I said, 25 push-ups, you know, at a pop.

02:27:22.000 25's good.

02:27:22.000 It's good.

02:27:23.000 That's good.

02:27:24.000 Well, you know why?

02:27:25.000 How often do you do it?

02:27:26.000 Because you look at every day.

02:27:28.000 You do 100 push-ups a day?

02:27:30.000 Yeah.

02:27:30.000 Come on.

02:27:31.000 Really?

02:27:32.000 That's very good, dude.

02:27:33.000 Thanks, man.

02:27:34.000 That's very good.

02:27:35.000 But it's like...

02:27:36.000 The least you could do.

02:27:38.000 That's not the least you could do.

02:27:39.000 You do one.

02:27:39.000 It's pretty much the least you could do.

02:27:41.000 One is the least you could do.

02:27:42.000 Yeah, but you know, flailing those kettlebells and it's like, you just feel it.

02:27:47.000 You could start, you're just feeling like, I was at the, I've said this before, but you're at the pool and you see these guys walk around, the dad bod guys, they got nothing left.

02:27:55.000 It's just like, you know, over their shoulders.

02:27:58.000 When I see guys' shoulders and it's just kind of like bone.

02:28:01.000 Yes.

02:28:02.000 And skin.

02:28:03.000 And I always think, oh my God, you're going to get hurt.

02:28:06.000 Right.

02:28:07.000 That guy's going to open up a mayonnaise jar and pull out his rotator cuff.

02:28:10.000 I know.

02:28:10.000 I just don't want to do that.

02:28:12.000 I don't want to be that.

02:28:13.000 Have you ever thought about hiring a trainer?

02:28:15.000 No.

02:28:16.000 I can get you one if you want one.

02:28:17.000 Yeah?

02:28:17.000 Yeah!

02:28:18.000 Yeah, I know a lot of guys.

02:28:19.000 Do I have to go somewhere?

02:28:20.000 Let me get the hormones so I'm motivated enough to go.

02:28:25.000 Do you have weights at your house?

02:28:27.000 I do.

02:28:27.000 I have dumbbells and the bike.

02:28:30.000 Someone could come to your house and just with dumbbells give you a phenomenal workout. 1.00

02:28:34.000 Just body weight and dumbbells. 0.57

02:28:36.000 Really?

02:28:36.000 Yeah, just commit to doing it two times a week.

02:28:38.000 Yeah?

02:28:39.000 Yeah.

02:28:39.000 And then, you know, ramp it up.

02:28:41.000 Right.

02:28:41.000 Up to three times a week.

02:28:42.000 Right, right.

02:28:43.000 You know, make sure you have recovery time.

02:28:45.000 You know, you do Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

02:28:47.000 Right, right.

02:28:47.000 And then.

02:28:48.000 You'll see improvements for sure.

02:28:50.000 You know what's hard is the road.

02:28:51.000 When you're on the road, it's so hard.

02:28:53.000 I'm always like, no, this week I'm going to do it.

02:28:56.000 And you're on the road and it's like, my go-to is yoga when I'm on the road.

02:29:00.000 I'll do yoga in the room.

02:29:03.000 It's hard.

02:29:05.000 Yoga in the room is good.

02:29:07.000 If you go to a class, it's better.

02:29:09.000 Oh, of course.

02:29:10.000 Yeah, if you can force yourself to go to a class.

02:29:11.000 Those little adjustments that they just come over to you, it makes all the difference.

02:29:16.000 Yeah, and it's also like you have to keep up with the pace of the class. 1.00

02:29:19.000 You can't just fuck off and take a shit. 1.00

02:29:24.000 You're in that class, man. 1.00

02:29:26.000 You're locked in for 90 minutes with your little bottle of water, and you've got to make that water last.

02:29:31.000 I know.

02:29:32.000 No, it's a big difference.

02:29:34.000 Well, now that we're coming out of the pandemic, I go to classes again.

02:29:37.000 I can't believe you never caught COVID. That's amazing.

02:29:39.000 Never caught it.

02:29:40.000 That's incredible.

02:29:41.000 Especially with this Omicron.

02:29:42.000 I know.

02:29:43.000 Everybody caught that.

02:29:44.000 And I was touring heavy.

02:29:46.000 I've been out, and at a certain point, I was like, I'm just going to sign books.

02:29:50.000 Depending on where I would go, if the audience...

02:29:53.000 Didn't have to wear a mask if that city and that theater was saying...

02:29:57.000 I was like, I'm just going to go.

02:29:59.000 I'm just going to do it.

02:29:59.000 Good for you.

02:30:01.000 Yeah, I never caught it.

02:30:02.000 Well, you know what?

02:30:04.000 If you have the right protocol in place into how to take care of yourself once, if you did get sick, if you were ready for it, you could be okay.

02:30:13.000 It's just, you know, you're a relatively young, healthy guy, and you're vaccinated, and you're out there.

02:30:21.000 I was vaxxed and boosted in my little baggies in my backpack.

02:30:25.000 Vitamins.

02:30:25.000 Yeah, with all the zinc and the stuff.

02:30:27.000 That made a big difference, I'm sure.

02:30:28.000 Yeah.

02:30:29.000 Well, that's one of the things that they said about vitamin D in particular.

02:30:32.000 Yeah.

02:30:33.000 Was that some ungodly number at one point in time, I think it was like in the high 70s, I think it was like 78% of the people that were in the ICU with COVID had insufficient levels of vitamin D. Wow.

02:30:45.000 Wow.

02:30:46.000 It's a big factor with your immune system, vitamin D, because they call it a vitamin, but it's really a hormone.

02:30:53.000 Oh.

02:30:54.000 Yeah, Dr. Rhonda Patrick was explaining it to me, and she's like, they shouldn't even call it a vitamin, because it's really a hormone that you get from the sun.

02:31:02.000 Right.

02:31:03.000 My friend Kira Soltanovich, you know Kira, she was saying you've got to take it with K, K2. Yeah, it helps absorption.

02:31:12.000 Yeah.

02:31:13.000 She was like, don't just take it on its own.

02:31:15.000 So then I changed it to that.

02:31:18.000 It's like if you take zinc, you're supposed to take zinc with quercetin or curcumin or some kind of an ionophore.

02:31:26.000 Right.

02:31:27.000 But to have someone who can go over your blood work and look at your nutrient levels and make sure you're taking the right stuff, it's so beneficial.

02:31:35.000 Because you think about your expertise in comedy.

02:31:37.000 Now, if you had someone who was just starting out and they were doing everything all wrong, you'd be like, don't headline right away.

02:31:43.000 Right.

02:31:46.000 Don't do that joke.

02:31:48.000 Exactly.

02:31:49.000 You'd be able to talk to them and tell them how to do comedy.

02:31:53.000 They can do that with how to eat.

02:31:55.000 They can do that with how to exercise.

02:31:57.000 It's always worth bringing in an expert.

02:32:00.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:32:01.000 A real expert.

02:32:01.000 Yeah, no, you're right.

02:32:03.000 Because I've had a bunch of workouts with real high-level fitness trainers.

02:32:07.000 And I work out here in town with my friend John Wolf, who's the head trainer at the Onnit gym.

02:32:12.000 I work out with him all the time.

02:32:13.000 It helps a lot.

02:32:15.000 It does help.

02:32:15.000 It helps so much, man.

02:32:17.000 Because he'll make me do, like, mobility exercises and shit that I don't really want to do. 0.62

02:32:23.000 Right.

02:32:23.000 Yeah, you get into your own pattern.

02:32:25.000 You're doing something that's better than not doing anything.

02:32:27.000 Yeah.

02:32:28.000 But having someone else just be like, ah, change this.

02:32:31.000 You're like, oh, right, I feel this now.

02:32:33.000 Also, to make someone who does things on their time, like, you want a certain amount of rest in between.

02:32:40.000 They only give you the rest they think you need.

02:32:42.000 Right.

02:32:43.000 Get back at it.

02:32:43.000 Right, right.

02:32:44.000 They're trying to build you up, whereas you're just trying to maintain a comfort level while you're at the gym.

02:32:48.000 Yeah, right, exactly. 0.98

02:32:50.000 You know, if you don't see people fucking around with their phone and talking to their friends. 0.98

02:32:54.000 Yeah, reading the paper on the treadmill. 0.99

02:32:55.000 Yeah, and having some reason to fuck off with a buddy, you know, laugh and joke around. 0.98

02:33:00.000 Right, right. 0.99

02:33:01.000 You really should be doing another set.

02:33:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:03.000 No, that's good.

02:33:05.000 It's also the thing about going to a gym that's great is the culture of the people there.

02:33:10.000 Especially On It Gym is great because everyone there is trying to better themselves.

02:33:14.000 So when you are there and you see all these super fit people that are working out hard and trying to better themselves, you get into this mindset and then the momentum of that kind of carries on in your life.

02:33:25.000 Yeah.

02:33:26.000 Nice.

02:33:26.000 That is a good thing.

02:33:27.000 Oh my God.

02:33:28.000 I'm on the bike.

02:33:28.000 I just have Frank the Pug walking by.

02:33:30.000 That's okay too. 0.95

02:33:31.000 Listen, that's fucking way better than not doing it. 0.97

02:33:34.000 Yeah, for sure. 0.98

02:33:35.000 For sure.

02:33:36.000 It's all about, you know, just like how much time do you have for that?

02:33:40.000 How much energy do you have for that?

02:33:41.000 You don't want to overdo it where it takes away from other things that you do.

02:33:45.000 No, of course. 0.99

02:33:46.000 That fucking guy that died, he obviously went too far. 1.00

02:33:50.000 He was going crazy. 1.00

02:33:51.000 You don't want to go crazy.

02:33:52.000 It actually, in the right dose, staves off the crazy.

02:33:56.000 Oh, yeah.

02:33:57.000 I mean, you know, during the pandemic, it was like, if I didn't work out, it was like, you're a different guy after two days.

02:34:05.000 It's so good for anxiety.

02:34:07.000 Oh, my God.

02:34:07.000 It feels so much better.

02:34:09.000 Yeah, my friends who have anxiety who don't exercise, I'm like, man, it's like you're not taking your medicine.

02:34:13.000 Right, exactly.

02:34:15.000 Yeah.

02:34:16.000 You can help yourself.

02:34:18.000 You'd be in the shittiest, worst mood, and then you do it, and you're like, what was I complaining about?

02:34:24.000 Exactly.

02:34:25.000 What didn't I like?

02:34:26.000 You have a lot more empathy for people after you do that, too, which is interesting.

02:34:31.000 Patience for people.

02:34:32.000 Empathy.

02:34:32.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:34:34.000 Why is that?

02:34:35.000 I think a lot of our reactions to other people are based on how we feel internally, physically how you feel.

02:34:43.000 I think we carry around a lot of stress whether we realize it or not.

02:34:46.000 Yeah.

02:34:47.000 I feel way better when I stretch.

02:34:49.000 Even if I'm not going to work out, just a long stretching session, I feel better.

02:34:54.000 Totally.

02:34:54.000 Because you're carrying around less tension.

02:34:56.000 You're alleviating tension in your body that alleviates it in your mind, and you just feel better.

02:35:03.000 That's the yoga key, right?

02:35:04.000 You come out of there, you're blissed out.

02:35:06.000 Oh, my God.

02:35:07.000 You're so much more compassionate towards people when you do yoga.

02:35:10.000 Yeah.

02:35:12.000 So good.

02:35:13.000 It's great.

02:35:14.000 So, Duncan's coming back to LA. Is he?

02:35:18.000 Yeah.

02:35:18.000 100%?

02:35:19.000 Yeah.

02:35:19.000 I wouldn't bet on that.

02:35:21.000 He said he was.

02:35:23.000 When did you talk to him?

02:35:25.000 We started doing this podcast together.

02:35:27.000 When did you just start doing this?

02:35:28.000 Like a couple months ago.

02:35:30.000 We haven't released it yet.

02:35:31.000 We just love each other.

02:35:33.000 We never really hung out.

02:35:35.000 I just love talking to him so much.

02:35:37.000 So we've just been talking.

02:35:39.000 He said, we're like, should we do this?

02:35:41.000 Because we have so much fun.

02:35:42.000 We're like, you want to do something together like this?

02:35:45.000 And he's like...

02:35:46.000 I'm moving back, man.

02:35:47.000 I'm coming.

02:35:48.000 He was coming here, too, so I wouldn't count on it.

02:35:51.000 Yeah.

02:35:51.000 I'm coming to Austin, man.

02:35:53.000 No, man.

02:35:54.000 I miss it.

02:35:55.000 Last time we did a podcast together, I was sitting in that seat.

02:35:58.000 He sat in this seat, and he wore a ghillie suit, and I wore a wig.

02:36:02.000 No, no, no.

02:36:03.000 We both wore wigs, right?

02:36:05.000 We burned candles.

02:36:07.000 We had candles all over the table. 0.99

02:36:08.000 He's so crazy.

02:36:10.000 I don't know. 0.89

02:36:10.000 Did we take mushrooms? 0.89

02:36:11.000 Did we take mushrooms?

02:36:12.000 No.

02:36:12.000 Really?

02:36:12.000 I don't think we took mushrooms.

02:36:13.000 But we were baked out of our fucking minds. 0.98

02:36:18.000 He's one of my favorite people to hang out with because he's so uniquely Duncan. 0.99

02:36:22.000 So much so.

02:36:24.000 Yeah.

02:36:24.000 And it just feels like, yeah, just talking to him is just great.

02:36:28.000 He's the best.

02:36:29.000 He's such a sweet person too.

02:36:30.000 Like genuinely nice.

02:36:32.000 You're going to see Joe.

02:36:33.000 Give that werewolf a kiss for me. 0.99

02:36:35.000 Give that werewolf a kiss. 0.99

02:36:37.000 We have a new version of the werewolf.

02:36:41.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:41.000 You do?

02:36:42.000 Yeah, we got a new one.

02:36:43.000 Patrick McGee, who's the guy who made the first werewolf.

02:36:47.000 Is that still in L.A.? Yeah, but we're going back to get that soon, too.

02:36:53.000 But he sent me, I'm going to send you these, Jamie, because they're fucking sweet.

02:36:59.000 But he changed this new one where he does it. 0.92

02:37:03.000 The old one had, some of it was yak hair, and some of it was like this artificial hair, and then the new one, he's using all yak hair.

02:37:15.000 And because I had Rick Baker on the podcast, Rick Baker's the guy who did all the special effects for the American Werewolf in London, and he created the first Oh,

02:37:40.000 wow.

02:37:43.000 Oh, that is fierce.

02:37:44.000 Look at the claws.

02:37:45.000 That is fierce.

02:37:46.000 Look at his fangs.

02:37:47.000 Yeah, he fine-tuned it.

02:37:50.000 Patrick McGee does high-level special effects for films.

02:37:55.000 That is insane.

02:37:56.000 Yeah, the old one was awesome, but this one is awesomer.

02:37:59.000 Look at the difference in the muscles.

02:38:01.000 Look at the muscles in this thing and the hair.

02:38:03.000 So it's all yak hair now. 0.92

02:38:05.000 So he's not using the synthetic hair anymore.

02:38:07.000 He did the whole thing in animal hair.

02:38:10.000 It looks twice as scary.

02:38:12.000 Yeah, and he brought it down to the size, so it's like a little bigger than me, probably.

02:38:19.000 Yeah, you could see that it was human.

02:38:21.000 Yeah, that's the idea.

02:38:23.000 Like his back.

02:38:24.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:38:25.000 Fucking awesome. 0.98

02:38:26.000 Oh, that's amazing. 0.99

02:38:27.000 Yeah.

02:38:27.000 What an artist.

02:38:28.000 Oh, he's so good, man.

02:38:29.000 He does a lot of stuff for films.

02:38:31.000 He does a lot of stuff for monster movies.

02:38:34.000 And he's one of those guys.

02:38:35.000 Yeah, this is McGee's special effects page.

02:38:37.000 Look at his stuff, man.

02:38:38.000 Jeez.

02:38:39.000 He's incredible.

02:38:39.000 Look at those eyes.

02:38:41.000 That's Patrick right there.

02:38:43.000 And he's a big giant dude, too. 0.99

02:38:45.000 When I met him, I was like, holy shit, he's like six foot six. 0.99

02:38:47.000 He's huge. 0.99

02:38:48.000 He was a basketball player, and he decided to get into special effects.

02:38:52.000 Really?

02:38:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:38:53.000 Look at that fucking thing. 1.00

02:38:54.000 Oh, it's scary. 1.00

02:38:55.000 Because you expect that someone who did this would be like sort of a nerdy introvert.

02:38:59.000 Yeah.

02:38:59.000 He's like a big athlete.

02:39:01.000 Like look at his work.

02:39:02.000 It's amazing.

02:39:03.000 Wild stuff, right?

02:39:04.000 Holy cow. 0.89

02:39:05.000 Isn't that wild?

02:39:06.000 Amazing.

02:39:07.000 Yeah.

02:39:07.000 And what is it?

02:39:09.000 McGeeFX on Instagram.

02:39:11.000 You can check out all this stuff.

02:39:12.000 Yeah.

02:39:12.000 I got to look them up.

02:39:13.000 But he's one of those guys, like, look at that, that's his Bigfoot.

02:39:16.000 Oof.

02:39:17.000 Isn't that dope?

02:39:19.000 Yeah.

02:39:19.000 He's a real artist.

02:39:21.000 See, there's two schools of thoughts when it comes to special effects for films.

02:39:25.000 And one of them is they do CGI, so computer-generated images.

02:39:30.000 And then the other one is guys who want to use makeup and prosthetics because they think it moves real and it seems like a real object.

02:39:37.000 I believe that.

02:39:38.000 It does.

02:39:39.000 Yeah.

02:39:39.000 Sometimes you see things in a movie and it looks cool, but it looks fake.

02:39:43.000 It takes you out of it.

02:39:44.000 Yeah.

02:39:45.000 Yeah.

02:39:45.000 Exactly.

02:39:46.000 Yeah.

02:39:46.000 Whereas in American Werewolf in London, which is one of the great horror movies of all time, you didn't see the werewolf that much.

02:39:53.000 Get some footage of the werewolf in American Werewolf in London.

02:39:56.000 You saw it briefly in these scenes, and that's one of the things that made it so scary.

02:40:02.000 Right.

02:40:02.000 Is that you weren't staring at it, trying to find holes in it.

02:40:05.000 Right, analyzing it.

02:40:06.000 Right.

02:40:06.000 You saw it briefly.

02:40:08.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:40:08.000 And it was fucking terrifying. 0.99

02:40:11.000 Wow. 0.99

02:40:12.000 Wasn't Jack Nicholson a werewolf? 0.98

02:40:14.000 He was a terrible werewolf. 0.53

02:40:15.000 He was? 0.98

02:40:16.000 He was terrible.

02:40:16.000 Him and Michelle Pfeiffer.

02:40:18.000 Oh, right, right, right.

02:40:20.000 They were like this.

02:40:21.000 It was so corny.

02:40:23.000 It was like, that's a wolf, man. 1.00

02:40:25.000 Get out of here, bitch. 1.00

02:40:27.000 Grr. 1.00

02:40:28.000 They were trying to do...

02:40:31.000 There's a whole series of things we could say here.

02:40:34.000 Pull up the one from American Werewolf in London, and then we'll do Jack Nicholson, and then we'll do Benicio Del Toro.

02:40:40.000 Because Benicio Del Toro did a new version of the old Wolfman.

02:40:47.000 So this is when he's turning.

02:40:51.000 Yeah, this is great.

02:40:52.000 You've got to realize, I think this was the 80s, right?

02:40:56.000 Yeah, it was.

02:40:56.000 I remember I was in high school.

02:40:59.000 So, what year was this?

02:41:01.000 81. 81. 81. My god.

02:41:04.000 So I was in high school too.

02:41:05.000 So like, this was so radical for the time, this transformation scene where his hands are growing and he's screaming.

02:41:13.000 And it was also funny, because like you see...

02:41:17.000 This is his friend.

02:41:18.000 I'm sorry I told you to meatloaf because his dead friend was telling him to kill himself. 0.99

02:41:22.000 His friend came back from the dead, told him to kill himself because you're going to turn into a werewolf. 0.99

02:41:26.000 Right. 0.99

02:41:26.000 He's warning him. 0.99

02:41:27.000 He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

02:41:29.000 And so this is the first time he changes. 0.98

02:41:32.000 Good actor, too.

02:41:33.000 Oh my god, he was amazing. 0.98

02:41:35.000 And this scene was fucking incredible, man. 0.94

02:41:38.000 Because no one had ever seen anything like this before in a film. 0.96

02:41:43.000 Yeah, I remember.

02:41:44.000 The Wolfman stuff before that was kind of corny.

02:41:48.000 Yeah, and shadows.

02:41:49.000 Yeah.

02:41:49.000 It just didn't seem like it was really happening.

02:41:53.000 Good actor, too.

02:41:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:41:55.000 Oh my god, this fucking movie is one of my all-time favorites. 0.99

02:42:00.000 And then you had a little Warren Zevon in there. 0.99

02:42:02.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

02:42:03.000 God damn, it was good. 0.99

02:42:05.000 And funny, like Jack, like the face. 1.00

02:42:07.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:42:09.000 Look at this fucking thing. 1.00

02:42:11.000 God damn, what a movie this was. 1.00

02:42:14.000 Oh, God. 1.00

02:42:15.000 It's really great.

02:42:17.000 And 1981, man. 0.99

02:42:20.000 And the music, look at the fucking body on that thing. 1.00

02:42:24.000 Just wild. 0.99

02:42:25.000 It was also the first time I'd ever seen a werewolf where it was on all fours.

02:42:29.000 Uh-huh.

02:42:29.000 Yeah, he wasn't walking around in a suit.

02:42:34.000 Okay.

02:42:35.000 Now see if they show the werewolf in any other scenes, because there's a scene where it's running through Piccadilly Circus.

02:42:41.000 I don't have the full movie up.

02:42:42.000 I just had that scene.

02:42:44.000 Did they have Piccadilly Circus?

02:42:46.000 Piccadilly Square.

02:42:47.000 What's Piccadilly?

02:42:48.000 Piccadilly Square was the area where it was running through the street, just killing people.

02:42:52.000 It was in a nudie theater. 0.54

02:42:54.000 And he was in a movie theater watching porno with this guy, because that's where the guy told him to meet him there. 0.99

02:43:01.000 And he's telling them, like, you're going to turn to the werewolf, you're going to kill everybody. 0.99

02:43:05.000 And so he's in this theater and there's other people in the theater that are like, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? 0.99

02:43:12.000 And then he turns into the werewolf and see this cop comes in because he hears there's a disturbance. 0.97

02:43:21.000 I think it already killed a guy in there. 0.92

02:43:23.000 So some people are in there having sex.

02:43:26.000 And the cops walking through the movies. 0.90

02:43:32.000 He just ate someone.

02:43:45.000 No guns in London.

02:43:47.000 So the guy's trying to get people...

02:43:48.000 I know, they have sticks.

02:43:49.000 Imagine. 1.00

02:43:50.000 These poor bastards. 1.00

02:43:53.000 So this thing is in the middle of this porno theater. 1.00

02:43:56.000 All these cops are trying to hold it back.

02:43:59.000 And these people are like, what's going on over there?

02:44:01.000 What's happening?

02:44:02.000 What's happening? 0.75

02:44:04.000 And then eventually the werewolf breaks through that boundary and comes out and starts slaughtering people.

02:44:11.000 Go a little before you see it come out. 0.56

02:44:15.000 What the hell is going on here?

02:44:17.000 Open that door.

02:44:19.000 Here he comes.

02:44:20.000 Oh, and he eats the main guy.

02:44:23.000 Oh, there goes his head.

02:44:25.000 Now you get it, people.

02:44:26.000 Get out of there! 1.00

02:44:32.000 What a fucking scene, man. 1.00

02:44:40.000 That's when movies were movies. 1.00

02:44:42.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

02:44:45.000 Look at that thing. 1.00

02:44:47.000 And it's true. 0.56

02:44:48.000 If that was animated, you'd be like, yeah, okay.

02:44:52.000 Right, you're seeing whatever that thing is, it looks like a real thing is happening there.

02:44:56.000 Yeah.

02:44:56.000 And it's snapping at people while it's running around.

02:44:59.000 Now, go to Jack Nicholson in The Wolf.

02:45:02.000 Oh, no.

02:45:03.000 I think they called it Wolf.

02:45:05.000 I think it was called Wolf.

02:45:06.000 It was him and Michelle Pfeiffer.

02:45:08.000 Right, right.

02:45:09.000 Wolf.

02:45:10.000 It was corny.

02:45:11.000 Is that it?

02:45:12.000 Wolfman.

02:45:12.000 No, no, that's Wolfman.

02:45:14.000 That's Benicio Del Toro.

02:45:15.000 That's the next one I'm going to show you.

02:45:17.000 Right.

02:45:17.000 But Jack Nicholson.

02:45:19.000 Oh yeah, there it is.

02:45:20.000 Yeah, Wolf Jack Nicholson.

02:45:21.000 Versus James Spader, that's right.

02:45:23.000 Yeah, they had a super fight. 0.99

02:45:24.000 Him and that guy from that fucking cop show. 1.00

02:45:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:45:28.000 They both became wolves.

02:45:30.000 So Michelle Pfeiffer hits him in the head with a fire extinguisher and she's running away and then Look how he runs.

02:45:38.000 Look how he runs and tackles her. 0.96

02:45:41.000 He's in a sweatshirt.

02:45:42.000 It's so fake looking.

02:45:44.000 Look.

02:45:46.000 Jack Nicholson becomes a wolf.

02:45:47.000 He throws the keys away. 1.00

02:45:49.000 I'm gonna kill her. 1.00

02:45:50.000 I'm gonna kill her. 1.00

02:45:51.000 I mean, come on. 1.00

02:45:52.000 Who's more badass than Jack?

02:45:53.000 You make a leap like this, you're like, I think it'll work.

02:45:56.000 Look, she gets away so easy.

02:45:57.000 He has to leap through the air to stop her from getting away.

02:46:02.000 It looks so corny.

02:46:04.000 I don't know how they sold off on this.

02:46:07.000 Well, you're at the mercy.

02:46:08.000 You're thinking, no, there's good people.

02:46:11.000 So, if he takes that thing off, is that what turns him into the wolfman again?

02:46:15.000 Yeah.

02:46:15.000 Is that what's supposed to be happening?

02:46:17.000 Yeah, he locked himself in a cage and wore that thing so he wouldn't hurt people.

02:46:21.000 But now he's got a saver.

02:46:23.000 It's so corny.

02:46:23.000 So he takes the amulet off.

02:46:25.000 Look how corny that is.

02:46:26.000 Now he's going full wolf.

02:46:29.000 I can't believe Jack Nicholson signed off on this.

02:46:33.000 I mean, Jack Nicholson has done so many amazing movies.

02:46:36.000 Like, look.

02:46:37.000 Yeah, but it's too late by the time you're at that point.

02:46:41.000 Oof.

02:46:43.000 Ooh, the horse is...

02:46:44.000 Oh, no.

02:46:45.000 What is he trying to do?

02:46:45.000 This is very rapey.

02:46:47.000 That's rapey. 1.00

02:46:47.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:46:48.000 Oh, this is terrible.

02:46:49.000 Oh, my God.

02:46:51.000 Come on, Jack.

02:46:52.000 Save her.

02:46:53.000 This is taking a long-ass time, Jack.

02:46:55.000 Save her, Jack.

02:46:56.000 Oh, he jumps over the top.

02:46:58.000 Oh, there's no roof.

02:46:59.000 Oh, now he's going to land on them.

02:47:01.000 So the only thing that changes on these werewolves is their face.

02:47:04.000 Yeah, their teeth get a little nasty.

02:47:07.000 But it's nothing, like, significant.

02:47:10.000 No.

02:47:11.000 Like, look at that.

02:47:11.000 Ah!

02:47:12.000 And then watch Jack Nuggest.

02:47:14.000 Yeah.

02:47:15.000 This is like people that come to your Halloween party.

02:47:18.000 Yeah.

02:47:18.000 And you're like, come on, bro.

02:47:19.000 That's all you did?

02:47:20.000 Yeah.

02:47:20.000 Right.

02:47:21.000 A little effort.

02:47:22.000 Come on.

02:47:24.000 Okay.

02:47:25.000 Now.

02:47:25.000 All right.

02:47:26.000 That's whack.

02:47:27.000 Now.

02:47:28.000 Wolfman.

02:47:29.000 Benicio Del Toro.

02:47:32.000 The scene where he transforms in a hospital. 0.86

02:47:35.000 So this is one where they had decided that Benicio Del Toro was like a madman.

02:47:40.000 Give me some volume.

02:47:41.000 He's so good, too.

02:47:45.000 For him, it seems very real.

02:47:48.000 So they were thinking that this guy was delusional.

02:47:51.000 There was something wrong with him.

02:47:52.000 So this doctor...

02:47:56.000 He's all strapped to a chair.

02:47:58.000 Yeah, so they're observing this in this, like, medical theater, because they used to have, like, medical theaters back then.

02:48:04.000 So this is also Rick Baker.

02:48:06.000 So Rick Baker decided to do, like, an old-school werewolf thing, but to do it right.

02:48:12.000 And to do it not CGI all the way, but some CGI. Some CGI and some...

02:48:19.000 Like, that's CGI, clearly.

02:48:22.000 But some of it is...

02:48:23.000 That's great.

02:48:24.000 Yeah, see, like, some of it's CGI. But some of it is, like, physical stuff.

02:48:28.000 It's always so creepy when their bones stretch.

02:48:30.000 Yeah.

02:48:31.000 Well, this was the most creepy.

02:48:32.000 It was really good.

02:48:33.000 Like, the movie was pretty good.

02:48:35.000 Yeah.

02:48:36.000 But it...

02:48:37.000 I mean, it was close.

02:48:38.000 Oh, my God.

02:48:41.000 See, like, when this all takes place, like, these people are freaking out, and they try to get away, and then it eventually becomes, like, this version of, like, it's not quite, like, the American Werewolf in London, but it's not corny like Jackman.

02:48:57.000 Right.

02:48:58.000 It's, like, in the middle.

02:48:59.000 Look at this guy.

02:49:00.000 He thinks he's gonna, like, trank him. 0.97

02:49:02.000 He shoots him up with a thing. 0.85

02:49:09.000 Yeah, he's got a little bit more of a human...

02:49:11.000 Yeah, you buy into it more.

02:49:15.000 Hello! 1.00

02:49:17.000 Open the door, you fuck! 1.00

02:49:24.000 It's just eating people. 1.00

02:49:28.000 It's close enough where I think, okay, at least it's not just a dude with some teeth.

02:49:34.000 That looks like a monster.

02:49:37.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

02:49:39.000 It was good.

02:49:40.000 Yeah, it was good.

02:49:41.000 But this was like a lot of CGI stuff too.

02:49:44.000 Like the werewolf like jumps off the buildings and stuff and it looks corny.

02:49:49.000 Right, right, right.

02:49:49.000 Like you see it running through the city.

02:49:51.000 Like watch this.

02:49:52.000 When you see it like run over the buildings, it looks kind of corny.

02:49:56.000 Right.

02:49:56.000 It's like they did a hybrid type movie.

02:49:59.000 Like a lot of it was like this here.

02:50:02.000 Like...

02:50:03.000 I'm hopping from building the building.

02:50:05.000 But then here, it's like a real guy running.

02:50:09.000 Yeah.

02:50:09.000 But then once he gets hopping, it gets kind of corny.

02:50:12.000 Yeah, that all of a sudden is not real.

02:50:14.000 And he runs on all fours sometimes.

02:50:19.000 It's like that.

02:50:21.000 He looks good.

02:50:21.000 Yeah.

02:50:21.000 They try.

02:50:22.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:50:32.000 That sound cannot fuck with the sound that the American Werewolf in London made. 0.97

02:50:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:50:38.000 The American Werewolf in London sound was so much more ferocious.

02:50:41.000 That was a better sound.

02:50:43.000 But that was one of those movies where they tried...

02:50:45.000 There was an old school...

02:50:46.000 Was it Lone Chaney Jr. that played the werewolf?

02:50:49.000 Lone Chaney.

02:50:50.000 In The Wolfman?

02:50:51.000 Who was the original Wolfman.

02:50:53.000 Yeah, the OG Wolfman.

02:50:55.000 From like the 1950s.

02:50:57.000 And those movies were good because there was suspense.

02:50:59.000 Like you didn't see a lot.

02:51:01.000 So you had to build it up with not seeing it.

02:51:04.000 Well, that's what he looked like.

02:51:05.000 Yeah, Loan Chaney Jr., the Wolfman.

02:51:07.000 So what this Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro was supposed to be was like this thing, but better.

02:51:14.000 Right.

02:51:15.000 They achieved it, but the reality is it's not quite scary enough.

02:51:21.000 No, it wasn't about the effects as much as it was the acting back then.

02:51:25.000 But it's like that movie, the Wolfman with Benicio Del Toro was ultimately kind of a failure.

02:51:31.000 Right.

02:51:31.000 It really didn't.

02:51:32.000 Didn't catch?

02:51:33.000 No, people were like, come on, man.

02:51:35.000 Right.

02:51:36.000 What are you doing?

02:51:37.000 I see what they're trying to do, but we want a real monster.

02:51:40.000 Yeah.

02:51:41.000 We want a real monster.

02:51:42.000 And then Abbott and Costello go against the Wolfman at one point.

02:51:46.000 Oh, they did?

02:51:46.000 That's right!

02:51:47.000 There's no like comedy teams like that anymore.

02:51:52.000 No.

02:51:53.000 James Franco and Seth Rogen were like the last comedy team.

02:51:57.000 They were in a bunch of films together.

02:51:59.000 Right, right.

02:52:00.000 Oh, look at that.

02:52:01.000 There you go.

02:52:02.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

02:52:04.000 Oh, but also, who else was, what the fuck's his name? 0.99

02:52:12.000 From Step Brothers. 0.98

02:52:14.000 Oh, Farrell and John C. Reilly?

02:52:15.000 That's right.

02:52:16.000 Those two guys have been in a bunch of movies.

02:52:17.000 Yeah.

02:52:18.000 That's probably the best comedy team. 0.68

02:52:20.000 They are.

02:52:20.000 Step Brothers, Talladega Knights.

02:52:23.000 Yeah.

02:52:23.000 That's right.

02:52:23.000 They're our modern team.

02:52:25.000 Yeah.

02:52:26.000 Yeah.

02:52:27.000 Then there's...

02:52:28.000 Talladega Nights is amazing.

02:52:30.000 So funny.

02:52:31.000 Stepbrother's so damn funny. 1.00

02:52:33.000 Fuck yeah, so funny. 1.00

02:52:34.000 You couldn't do that movie today, man. 1.00

02:52:36.000 I watched it with my family during the pandemic, and I was like, whoa, there's a lot of racy humor in this.

02:52:41.000 Well, it starts off, I just showed it to my daughters, too. 0.99

02:52:44.000 The first real gag is putting the testicles on the... 0.99

02:52:47.000 On the symbols. 1.00

02:52:48.000 My daughter's like, what are you showing us?

02:52:51.000 But it's a lot of it.

02:52:52.000 It's like homophobia jokes.

02:52:54.000 There's like a lot of jokes.

02:52:56.000 You just can't.

02:52:57.000 It's weird today.

02:52:58.000 You can't just joke around about certain things now because of social media and the outrage, recreational outrage that's sort of blossomed from it.

02:53:08.000 Yeah, there was a lot of bad taste back then, but at least there was the freedom to make stuff.

02:53:13.000 There was, like, bad comedies.

02:53:15.000 Every year there'd be a boatload of bad comedies just swinging for the fences, and then every once in a while one of them would hit.

02:53:21.000 But the ones that hit, today, when you go back and watch them, like, you know, if comics are getting canceled for old jokes, like, geez, Louise, go back and watch some of those films.

02:53:32.000 Revenge of the Nerds.

02:53:33.000 Oh, yeah.

02:53:33.000 Revenge of the Nerds.

02:53:34.000 Those guys were creeps. 0.86

02:53:36.000 The nerds were creeps. 0.99

02:53:37.000 They were so rapey. 0.98

02:53:39.000 They put spy gear all over the sorority house? 0.99

02:53:41.000 Yeah, they're perving out on all the girls, and then they switch his costumes, and he goes and has sex with the girl, and she thinks it's with the other guy. 0.99

02:53:53.000 It's essentially raping her. 0.99

02:53:55.000 You remember Superbad? 0.99

02:53:56.000 Uh-huh.

02:53:57.000 Dude, that movie.

02:54:00.000 You remember Superbad.

02:54:01.000 Sure.

02:54:01.000 What about that?

02:54:02.000 The movie is filled with crazy humor.

02:54:05.000 I tried watching that movie. 0.99

02:54:06.000 That was the one when they started out the movie like he was drawing all those dicks. 0.75

02:54:09.000 It didn't start out with that. 0.95

02:54:11.000 That was in the movie, right? 0.98

02:54:12.000 That's a fucking hilarious movie, but it starts out, they're talking about porno. 0.99

02:54:17.000 Right. 0.99

02:54:18.000 And I was trying to watch it with my kids, and I was like, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop.

02:54:23.000 I forgot.

02:54:24.000 Like, I forgot.

02:54:24.000 16 Candles?

02:54:26.000 I haven't seen that in forever.

02:54:27.000 Same thing.

02:54:28.000 Is it really?

02:54:29.000 Yeah, she's all drunk at the end. 1.00

02:54:31.000 He just gives her to the nerd. 0.98

02:54:32.000 Oh my god.

02:54:33.000 Take her, man. 0.88

02:54:33.000 Do what you want. 0.88

02:54:34.000 There were so many movies like that.

02:54:36.000 Yeah.

02:54:36.000 I remember Animal House.

02:54:38.000 That whole scene where the girl was out unconscious.

02:54:40.000 Right.

02:54:41.000 And he pulled the stuffing out of her bra.

02:54:44.000 Right, right.

02:54:45.000 He had the devil and the angel.

02:54:47.000 Yes, yeah.

02:54:48.000 Yeah, not good.

02:54:49.000 It doesn't hold up.

02:54:50.000 I mean, how many Judd Apatow movies that he put out would just never fly today?

02:54:56.000 Never.

02:54:57.000 And that's not that long ago.

02:54:58.000 That's what my point is. 0.97

02:54:59.000 Animal House was in the fucking, what was that? 0.99

02:55:02.000 The 70s. 0.99

02:55:03.000 Yeah.

02:55:04.000 The Apatow movies were in the 2000s.

02:55:06.000 Right.

02:55:08.000 It's quick.

02:55:08.000 The invention of social media changed everybody's acceptance of what is okay to joke around.

02:55:16.000 Did you ever see this movie?

02:55:16.000 It came out.

02:55:17.000 I was trying to figure out what it was called.

02:55:19.000 It was in the background of the Ghislaine Maxwell photo.

02:55:22.000 This photo thing, the movie poster was.

02:55:24.000 No, I didn't see it.

02:55:26.000 Was it good?

02:55:27.000 I mean, it came out two years ago.

02:55:28.000 It's about a bunch of young teenagers, probably 12, 10. It's irreverent as fuck. 0.99

02:55:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:55:33.000 Is it funny? 0.99

02:55:35.000 It's a dirty movie.

02:55:35.000 It's pretty funny.

02:55:37.000 Yeah.

02:55:37.000 But I mean, it wasn't one of those things that you're like, oh my god, you gotta go see it, kind of.

02:55:40.000 It didn't cross that level.

02:55:42.000 Right.

02:55:43.000 Yeah, I wouldn't want to make a comedy today, man.

02:55:47.000 Very tricky.

02:55:48.000 Yeah, super tricky.

02:55:50.000 Yeah.

02:55:50.000 You have to dance a line, and then the studio would probably be like, ooh.

02:55:54.000 You'd have to really do it independently, probably.

02:55:57.000 Probably.

02:55:58.000 Right?

02:55:58.000 Yeah.

02:55:59.000 Like, if you wanted to try to make...

02:56:01.000 I mean, the thing about these comedies, it's not like you're endorsing this behavior. 0.99

02:56:05.000 You're just saying that it's funny because people are fucked up. 0.99

02:56:09.000 And it's right. 0.99

02:56:10.000 You're reflecting the people and how they talked and what they did.

02:56:13.000 Right.

02:56:13.000 And you're showing people's flawed reactions to situations or flawed decision making.

02:56:18.000 Right.

02:56:19.000 And that's where the comedy is like, don't do that.

02:56:21.000 Oh my God.

02:56:21.000 Right.

02:56:22.000 You know, and that's, you don't.

02:56:24.000 Yeah.

02:56:26.000 Today, that stuff, it's like, what was the last good comedy movie that was released?

02:56:34.000 It used to be you would be able to, something about Mary.

02:56:37.000 Right.

02:56:38.000 You know, Kingpin.

02:56:38.000 You could just snap them off.

02:56:40.000 No.

02:56:40.000 You knew where they were.

02:56:41.000 It's like, wokeness killed the comedy movie in a lot of ways. 0.86

02:56:44.000 It did.

02:56:45.000 People, they're just not making them.

02:56:47.000 What was the last great comedy movie?

02:56:50.000 The last Step Brothers?

02:56:52.000 No, there's been some other ones.

02:56:54.000 Since then?

02:56:55.000 What was the one where it was the end of the world? 1.00

02:56:57.000 It was James Franco and Seth Rogen and the fucking volcanoes and shit was happening. 0.99

02:57:03.000 What's the one where the house party goes out of control? 1.00

02:57:05.000 This is the end.

02:57:06.000 This is the end.

02:57:07.000 This is the end was good.

02:57:08.000 What year was that?

02:57:09.000 2013. 2013. I wouldn't say great comedy.

02:57:12.000 But that's still 10 years ago.

02:57:13.000 You know, that might be the last of the Mohicans. 1.00

02:57:18.000 Yeah, it's weird.

02:57:20.000 What was the one where the house party goes out of control?

02:57:22.000 Project X. Project X. Do woke people make comedy? 0.99

02:57:27.000 Is there a woke comedy movie?

02:57:30.000 Is there even an attempt?

02:57:33.000 Is there even an attempt at a politically correct comedy movie?

02:57:37.000 Did it just stop making comedy movies?

02:57:40.000 They just stop making them.

02:57:41.000 But you could be super funny. 0.89

02:57:43.000 You could make a great comedy without being rapey and homophobic.

02:57:48.000 But it's not just that. 0.81

02:57:50.000 It's all abhorrent behavior.

02:57:53.000 It's not an endorsement.

02:57:56.000 If you have a movie, here's an example of American Psycho.

02:57:59.000 American Psycho, you could do that movie today.

02:58:01.000 And it wouldn't be an endorsement of a person who's a serial killer.

02:58:06.000 It would just be a film about a serial killer.

02:58:09.000 About a psycho.

02:58:09.000 But there's a weird thing that happens when you're making fun of something.

02:58:13.000 When you're making fun of something, somehow or another it's supposedly an endorsement of whatever that activity is, even if it's completely unacceptable.

02:58:22.000 Yeah, but it's kind of like, yeah, but it's, the real question is, is that a moment?

02:58:28.000 Is this a moment?

02:58:30.000 Because I know, like, really young people who think that that whole thing went too far. 0.99

02:58:37.000 Like, they laugh at shit that's a little more irreverent. 0.99

02:58:40.000 That doesn't matter. 0.99

02:58:41.000 What matters is, if you did make that movie, the backlash would be absolutely real.

02:58:47.000 People would go crazy.

02:58:48.000 Right.

02:58:49.000 But that's what they're afraid of.

02:58:50.000 They're not afraid of whether or not they'd have a market.

02:58:53.000 Right.

02:58:53.000 They would definitely have a market.

02:58:54.000 Yeah.

02:58:55.000 But how many people would get canceled because of it?

02:58:57.000 How many people would get attacked because of it?

02:58:59.000 How bad would the studio get protested?

02:59:01.000 Right, right.

02:59:02.000 Well, then it comes down to the math.

02:59:05.000 When was the last great comedy movie?

02:59:07.000 Where people were roaring in the movie theater and then went to see it.

02:59:11.000 And then they told everybody, you gotta go see it.

02:59:13.000 Yeah.

02:59:14.000 It's weird that we can't...

02:59:15.000 It's weird that we're struggling.

02:59:17.000 I am 100% struggling.

02:59:19.000 Jamie, when was the last great comedy movie that you saw?

02:59:23.000 You said Good Boys.

02:59:25.000 I mean, I just was throwing it out there.

02:59:26.000 I would think it wasn't...

02:59:28.000 But, like, what is another one?

02:59:31.000 Well...

02:59:32.000 It's like the genre has been murdered.

02:59:33.000 I was trying to think like...

02:59:34.000 Let's think Kevin Hart.

02:59:35.000 Let's think Will Ferrell.

02:59:36.000 Yeah, there's a few movies like the Jumanji movies sort of like...

02:59:38.000 Yeah, but those are family friendly, man.

02:59:40.000 Exactly, I know.

02:59:40.000 Family friendly.

02:59:41.000 They're great.

02:59:41.000 Funny.

02:59:42.000 Great movies.

02:59:43.000 Really funny.

02:59:43.000 I love Jumanji.

02:59:44.000 It was great.

02:59:45.000 It took my kids to see it.

02:59:46.000 Yeah.

02:59:47.000 It was fun.

02:59:47.000 Deadpool had a lot of comedy in it.

02:59:49.000 The first Jumanji.

02:59:50.000 Deadpool.

02:59:50.000 No, Deadpool.

02:59:51.000 Deadpool.

02:59:51.000 Yeah.

02:59:51.000 It was like, but that's a superhero movie, so...

02:59:54.000 Right, right.

02:59:54.000 Deadpool.

02:59:54.000 It's not really...

02:59:55.000 Yeah.

02:59:56.000 But it wasn't a comedy.

02:59:56.000 I know.

02:59:57.000 In some sense, I wouldn't consider that really good.

02:59:59.000 Yeah.

02:59:59.000 It was a funny superhero movie.

03:00:00.000 Get Hard, Kevin Hart, and Will Ferrell.

03:00:04.000 I didn't see that.

03:00:05.000 You know, like, I'm just trying to think of the funny actors that have been making the stuff, right?

03:00:09.000 But they make a lot of family-friendly stuff now.

03:00:11.000 Yeah.

03:00:11.000 Which you can kind of do still.

03:00:15.000 Hangover.

03:00:16.000 Okay.

03:00:17.000 Right?

03:00:18.000 And that's why it exploded, because it was an R-rated...

03:00:23.000 Same year, though, for Hangover 3, 2013. That was 3. I'm trying to find anything since then, and there's not a lot since 2014, 15, 16. There's a few of those family-friendly comedies that pop up.

03:00:37.000 They murdered the comedy movie.

03:00:40.000 Yeah.

03:00:41.000 Wasn't that also one of the first ones to go rated R? That was a big deal because it was a top rated R comedy movie.

03:00:48.000 Of all time.

03:00:49.000 It broke the record.

03:00:50.000 Superbad was R too.

03:00:51.000 But it wasn't as top rated as the hangover was.

03:00:54.000 Hangover exploded.

03:00:55.000 Hangover was a spectacular success.

03:00:59.000 Yeah.

03:01:01.000 You could make Hangover today.

03:01:04.000 Could you though?

03:01:05.000 I think so.

03:01:06.000 What was in it that you couldn't do?

03:01:09.000 Yeah.

03:01:09.000 I'd have to go back and watch it.

03:01:11.000 Sometimes I forget how crazy those movies are to go back and watch them again.

03:01:15.000 Yeah.

03:01:16.000 I think you can make Hangover today.

03:01:18.000 You can make it, but I think people are scared.

03:01:20.000 I think people are scared.

03:01:22.000 The studio's scared.

03:01:23.000 Oh, they would go over that script with a fine-toothed comb.

03:01:26.000 Oh, yeah.

03:01:26.000 Yeah.

03:01:27.000 Different parameter.

03:01:28.000 Mike Tyson showed back up, remember?

03:01:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:01:31.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

03:01:31.000 Mike Tyson. 1.00

03:01:32.000 Mike Tyson.

03:01:32.000 That's when Zach blew up.

03:01:34.000 It was Phil Collins coming in the air.

03:01:40.000 That was fun.

03:01:42.000 That was a great movie.

03:01:43.000 What else?

03:01:44.000 What was the next movie like that?

03:01:51.000 That was that big.

03:01:52.000 Google. 0.96

03:01:52.000 The jackass movies. 0.96

03:01:54.000 I've been looking. 0.95

03:01:54.000 I'm deep in the highest grossing comedies, the top from the last 20 years, 10 years. 0.95

03:02:00.000 Even Google can't figure it out.

03:02:03.000 For top grossing comedies of the last 10 years, of the 2010s, the top two, that's a count Jumanji.

03:02:13.000 The Hangovers are in there.

03:02:15.000 Ted.

03:02:18.000 Men in Black 3. Both Deadpools.

03:02:20.000 Mm-hmm.

03:02:22.000 22 Jump Street.

03:02:24.000 Mm-hmm.

03:02:24.000 Sequel to 21 Jump Street.

03:02:27.000 Right.

03:02:27.000 So that sounds like these are...

03:02:28.000 Yeah, Jonah Hill.

03:02:30.000 ...to compete and be like, yeah, this is on my list.

03:02:34.000 Oh, what was the...

03:02:35.000 Well, Wolf of Wall Street, that was kind of a comedy, right?

03:02:38.000 Yeah, kind of.

03:02:39.000 And didn't Scorsese make that?

03:02:42.000 Who made that?

03:02:43.000 Do you know what I mean?

03:02:45.000 Wasn't it a comedy though?

03:02:46.000 Adam McKay.

03:02:47.000 It's funny.

03:02:47.000 Yeah.

03:02:48.000 That's also 2013. Wow.

03:02:50.000 That was the end.

03:02:54.000 Maybe the Mayans were right. 1.00

03:02:59.000 December 21st, 2012. Yeah, and now all that we're watching is human sacrifices.

03:03:04.000 December 21st, 2012. Wasn't that what it was?

03:03:07.000 Yeah, 21st.

03:03:08.000 21st, 2012. Yeah, that's what they predicted, the end of the long count.

03:03:11.000 Yeah.

03:03:12.000 Yeah, man.

03:03:14.000 Yeah, wild.

03:03:15.000 It's crazy.

03:03:16.000 Yeah, they'll come back.

03:03:18.000 I don't know about that.

03:03:19.000 I think they will.

03:03:20.000 I don't know about that, because you need a lot of money to make a movie.

03:03:22.000 Well, that's the problem, too.

03:03:23.000 It's also a film thing.

03:03:25.000 I mean, if you talk to people that are just into the business of making movies, even dramas, like the number of films that are made now that are financed by the studios is so small compared to what it was.

03:03:37.000 But you have to also think that COVID must have put a giant dent in the movie business because you couldn't go to the movies anymore.

03:03:44.000 And it was vulnerable right before that.

03:03:46.000 And the DVD market fell out.

03:03:48.000 And then COVID. This is like rough time to make those just good middle of, you know.

03:03:55.000 Yeah.

03:03:56.000 20 million dollar movies.

03:03:58.000 It's all superhero giganto movies.

03:04:00.000 Or the really small movies that people don't see.

03:04:03.000 Where the streamers are starting to put them out.

03:04:05.000 Like Adam McKay's Don't Look Up.

03:04:08.000 You know what I mean?

03:04:09.000 I didn't see that.

03:04:10.000 It's good.

03:04:11.000 Yeah?

03:04:11.000 Yeah, it's good.

03:04:12.000 And funny.

03:04:12.000 Well, what's interesting now is the best things that you can watch in terms of the depth of character and the script writing is television shows.

03:04:23.000 Mm-hmm.

03:04:23.000 Television shows are amazing now.

03:04:25.000 Yeah.

03:04:25.000 Like, if you watch Ozark.

03:04:26.000 Right.

03:04:26.000 Ozark is basically like a...

03:04:28.000 I mean, how many episodes are they into now?

03:04:30.000 They're on season four.

03:04:31.000 Yeah. 0.98

03:04:32.000 So it's like, you know, whatever the fuck it is, a 50-hour. 0.97

03:04:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

03:04:36.000 Right.

03:04:36.000 You know?

03:04:37.000 Yeah.

03:04:37.000 It's a 50-hour movie.

03:04:39.000 Right.

03:04:39.000 Like, it's crazy.

03:04:40.000 I know.

03:04:40.000 Like, you're watching these people grow up.

03:04:42.000 Yeah.

03:04:42.000 You're watching this family.

03:04:43.000 Do you watch it?

03:04:44.000 Yeah.

03:04:45.000 The new season's insane.

03:04:47.000 I haven't seen it.

03:04:47.000 It's insane.

03:04:48.000 Yeah.

03:04:48.000 Oh my god.

03:04:49.000 And then the new second part of the new season, they're ramping it up for this.

03:04:54.000 Oh yeah.

03:04:55.000 Which I think starts in April sometime.

03:04:57.000 I think starts in the end of April.

03:04:59.000 Right.

03:04:59.000 It's going to be amazing.

03:05:01.000 Well, yeah, that's where it gets made.

03:05:05.000 Yeah.

03:05:06.000 Last Stranger Things is going to come out.

03:05:08.000 Yeah.

03:05:10.000 You can make comedies if you set them in the 80s.

03:05:13.000 Right. 0.88

03:05:13.000 When people were shitty and funny to each other. 0.88

03:05:16.000 Even then, man. 0.90

03:05:17.000 Even then.

03:05:18.000 Yeah.

03:05:18.000 Good luck.

03:05:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

03:05:20.000 The comedy has to be in a guy who's like, you have to make fun of someone who's an absolute piece of shit, right? 0.99

03:05:27.000 And then there's funny in that because it's like there's a villain. 0.99

03:05:31.000 You can't have funny in a broken lead character.

03:05:37.000 Right. 1.00

03:05:38.000 Yeah, he's got to be an asshole, a socially outcast. 1.00

03:05:41.000 Because movies, like, they have statements now. 1.00

03:05:45.000 It's not as simple as just have a funny movie.

03:05:49.000 Yeah.

03:05:50.000 Let's make one.

03:05:52.000 Please.

03:05:54.000 That's the last thing you want to do.

03:05:56.000 Could you imagine? 0.99

03:05:57.000 Imagine a fucking time. 1.00

03:05:58.000 Oh my god. 1.00

03:05:59.000 And then if it bombs, you gave up a year and a half of your life.

03:06:01.000 Yeah.

03:06:03.000 I just don't have a desire.

03:06:05.000 Yeah.

03:06:05.000 You know, stand-up is fun enough.

03:06:07.000 I know.

03:06:08.000 It's the most fun.

03:06:08.000 I know, it's pure.

03:06:09.000 Yeah, it's so fun.

03:06:10.000 And so many more laughs out of a stand-up act than a movie?

03:06:13.000 I actually just thought of one.

03:06:15.000 I'm looking through comedies coming up.

03:06:17.000 This seems like it would be a good comedy, potentially.

03:06:19.000 This movie that Nicolas Cage is in about himself, sort of?

03:06:23.000 Oh yeah, Nick Cage is Nick Cage or something?

03:06:25.000 The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.

03:06:27.000 I remember watching the trailer.

03:06:28.000 It's like the story is a really rich guy hires Nick Cage to come and be at his birthday party.

03:06:33.000 And then he flies him up.

03:06:34.000 He's like, hey, Nick, you need a million dollars, right?

03:06:36.000 His agent calls him.

03:06:37.000 He's like, yeah, I'll take the million dollars.

03:06:39.000 What do I got to do?

03:06:39.000 Go show up at a party?

03:06:40.000 And then a bunch of crazy shit happens. 1.00

03:06:42.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

03:06:43.000 Gotta love Nick Cage.

03:06:44.000 They can still do it.

03:06:45.000 Tiffany Haddish is in it.

03:06:46.000 Yeah.

03:06:46.000 Oh.

03:06:47.000 It can still be done.

03:06:48.000 Potentially.

03:06:49.000 Potentially, yeah.

03:06:50.000 So we'll see.

03:06:51.000 Tiffany Hash with a bold move to shave her head, isn't it? 1.00

03:06:54.000 Yeah.

03:06:54.000 Such a bold move.

03:06:55.000 She looks good, though.

03:06:56.000 Yeah, she does look good.

03:06:57.000 She can pull it off.

03:06:58.000 She looks really good. 1.00

03:06:59.000 Tom Papa, tell everybody where you're doing your fucking hee-hees and ha-has. 0.99

03:07:03.000 I'm touring all over the country. 0.99

03:07:05.000 The tours, I've been on 16 flights in the last two weeks.

03:07:08.000 Whoa.

03:07:10.000 Really?

03:07:10.000 Yeah, I've been everywhere.

03:07:12.000 I'm cranking it out.

03:07:13.000 Go to TomPapa.com.

03:07:15.000 You can look it up.

03:07:15.000 I've got a big show in Vegas on May 6th at the Wynn.

03:07:18.000 Oh, nice.

03:07:19.000 I'm going to be at the Borgata.

03:07:20.000 Look at all those little spots on the map. 1.00

03:07:22.000 Look at you, you fucking traveling fool. 1.00

03:07:23.000 I'm all over. 1.00

03:07:24.000 I'm touring like crazy.

03:07:25.000 Yeah, you are, dude.

03:07:27.000 Fargo, North Dakota.

03:07:28.000 Are you going anywhere you haven't done before?

03:07:30.000 Yeah, this weekend I'm going to be in Great Barrington, Mass in Redding, Pennsylvania.

03:07:34.000 I haven't performed there.

03:07:35.000 Great Barrington, Massachusetts?

03:07:36.000 Yeah, by the Berkshires. 0.99

03:07:37.000 Where the fuck is that? 0.99

03:07:38.000 By the Berkshires? 0.99

03:07:40.000 Wow.

03:07:41.000 And then I've got...

03:07:41.000 Is that Western Massachusetts?

03:07:43.000 Is that what that is?

03:07:44.000 Yeah.

03:07:44.000 It's like near New York State, right?

03:07:45.000 Yeah, exactly.

03:07:46.000 What's out there?

03:07:48.000 Some little theater.

03:07:49.000 They found you?

03:07:50.000 And they dragged you out there?

03:07:51.000 They dragged me and that's where I'm going on Thursday.

03:07:53.000 Bro.

03:07:54.000 And then down to Redding, Pennsylvania.

03:07:58.000 Connecticut.

03:07:58.000 You're doing Connecticut, huh?

03:08:00.000 And then...

03:08:00.000 Big mistake.

03:08:03.000 Nashville.

03:08:04.000 Yeah, the big one is Vegas.

03:08:06.000 I've got a big show in Vegas.

03:08:07.000 I just started...

03:08:08.000 I did my first one at the Wynn at the Encore Theater.

03:08:10.000 I've heard that's an awesome spot.

03:08:12.000 I love it.

03:08:13.000 I was there, staying there a few months ago and I saw the theater.

03:08:17.000 The theater's gorgeous.

03:08:18.000 Going back to Cleveland.

03:08:20.000 May 6th is the Encore Theater.

03:08:22.000 Nice.

03:08:22.000 Yeah, I'm cranking out.

03:08:24.000 Nice.

03:08:24.000 There's a whole bunch of stuff in the fall.

03:08:26.000 Just keep on going.

03:08:27.000 Paramount, Huntington, New York.

03:08:29.000 Hilarities in Cleveland.

03:08:30.000 Great Club.

03:08:31.000 Breaking Bread Podcast.

03:08:32.000 It's all happening, kids. 1.00

03:08:33.000 It's all happening, motherfuckers. 1.00

03:08:34.000 We can still make comedies. 1.00

03:08:36.000 Yes.

03:08:37.000 Tom Papa.

03:08:38.000 So good to see you, Joe.

03:08:38.000 I love you, buddy.

03:08:39.000 There's an olive loaf in a regular loaf.

03:08:41.000 Thank you.

03:08:42.000 Thank you, my friend.

03:08:43.000 See you soon, buddy.

03:08:43.000 You're the best.

03:08:45.000 Goodbye, ladies and gentlemen.

03:08:47.000 Until next time!

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 08, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1789 - Tom Papa

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