The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1826 - Fahim Anwar

00:00:03.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

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00:00:12.000 Cheers, sir.

00:00:13.000 Cheers.

00:00:14.000 Good to see you, my friend.

00:00:15.000 Likewise, thanks for having me.

00:00:17.000 I was commenting the round ice.

00:00:19.000 I'm a fan.

00:00:20.000 Yeah, I like the round ice.

00:00:21.000 It makes you feel fancy.

00:00:22.000 You're a fancy person, drinking bourbon on round ice.

00:00:26.000 Yeah, when in Rome.

00:00:27.000 Like, I was like, can we do this again?

00:00:29.000 Yeah.

00:00:30.000 You don't ever smoke cigars and drink whiskey unless you're with me?

00:00:33.000 No, I do other people, but like, yeah, this is like the thing to do.

00:00:37.000 You know what I mean?

00:00:38.000 Yeah.

00:00:39.000 Last time it was fun, we did it.

00:00:40.000 Yeah, we're conversating.

00:00:41.000 Yeah.

00:00:42.000 I like that word, too.

00:00:43.000 Yeah, conversating.

00:00:44.000 Conversating.

00:00:44.000 Doesn't seem like it's a real word, but I think it is.

00:00:47.000 I think so.

00:00:50.000 Yeah.

00:00:51.000 Good to see you, buddy.

00:00:52.000 Likewise.

00:00:52.000 It was fun hanging out last night.

00:00:54.000 Yeah.

00:00:55.000 I mean, I was here when things were shut down in L.A. with the pandemic, and I thought it was great then, like the way Vulcan was set up.

00:01:01.000 And then last night, it's like even more people, and they keep on like elevating.

00:01:05.000 Yeah.

00:01:06.000 Yeah.

00:01:06.000 It was a fun show.

00:01:07.000 Well, you know, the scene here right now is just on fire.

00:01:13.000 It's hopping.

00:01:13.000 There's so many comics here.

00:01:14.000 It's really fun.

00:01:16.000 Yeah.

00:01:16.000 It's a good time.

00:01:17.000 Like on any given night at Vulcan, we'll have Ron White, Tony Hinchcliffe, Tim Dillon stops in sometimes, Tom Segura when he's not on the road, Christina Pazitsky stops in.

00:01:27.000 There's so many comics here.

00:01:29.000 Derek Poston's here.

00:01:30.000 David Lucas is here all the time.

00:01:32.000 Hans Kim, William Montgomery. 0.99

00:01:34.000 I mean, it's fucking hopping. 0.99

00:01:36.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:01:36.000 I think that's part of the charm of that place, too, is just people don't know who's going to pop in. 0.98

00:01:41.000 And even when I was here, I was here for like three months during the pandemic, it was cool.

00:01:46.000 It almost felt like a festival city because it's that midpoint between New York and L.A. So I would see like Giannis, I would see guys I just wouldn't see unless I was doing Montreal or something.

00:01:55.000 So it's this organic midpoint.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, and there's also other clubs, right?

00:02:00.000 The other day we went over to see Ari. 0.93

00:02:02.000 He was at the Creek in the Cave running his new hour special that he's going to film July, I think it's 10th and 11th or 11th and 12th?

00:02:11.000 11th and 12th?

00:02:13.000 I think one of them might have some tickets available.

00:02:16.000 The 11th is sold out, but I think there might be a few tickets left for the 12th. 0.99

00:02:20.000 Don't sleep, because it's fucking good. 0.99

00:02:22.000 His new special is called Jew. 0.99

00:02:24.000 I was gonna name mine that as well.

00:02:26.000 He should.

00:02:27.000 Get it out first.

00:02:29.000 Yours is about to release.

00:02:30.000 You should just change the name of yours to Ari Shafir Jew.

00:02:33.000 Just rename everything?

00:02:35.000 Just call it Ari Shafir Jew. 1.00

00:02:38.000 It has nothing to do with him whatsoever.

00:02:39.000 I just beat him to the title.

00:02:40.000 That would be funny if we just start naming our specials after our friends.

00:02:45.000 You know, you just name a special, call it Neil Brennan.

00:02:48.000 He's like, hey man, why are you doing that?

00:02:50.000 I like you.

00:02:51.000 Come on, man.

00:02:53.000 It has nothing to do with me.

00:02:54.000 Do you know where he's going to put his?

00:02:57.000 Ari's?

00:02:58.000 I think he's going to do the YouTube route.

00:03:00.000 We were talking about that last night.

00:03:02.000 I honestly think that most of us are going to wind up doing that.

00:03:05.000 I mean, I think there's a lot of money in Netflix, right?

00:03:10.000 And Netflix is great, but for the widest possible distribution, I think you should put it everywhere and put it out for free.

00:03:17.000 Yeah.

00:03:17.000 Put it everywhere.

00:03:18.000 Because that's what you're doing.

00:03:18.000 When you're doing a special, you're essentially saying, hey, this is like an advertisement to come see me live, which is, it's way better live anyway.

00:03:26.000 Like, I always say that coming to see someone in a club or in a theater or what have you is probably, it's at least 30 or 40% better than watching on TV. Oh, for sure.

00:03:37.000 At least, right?

00:03:38.000 Yeah.

00:03:38.000 It might be twice as good.

00:03:40.000 It's always better live.

00:03:41.000 Way better live.

00:03:42.000 Things get lost.

00:03:43.000 But YouTube is the play now.

00:03:45.000 Honestly, and I think I'm getting better about this, just giving compliments and giving flowers to people.

00:03:50.000 Like, my hat goes out to Schultz.

00:03:52.000 I think he really kind of broke it for all these comics and shifting our thinking.

00:03:57.000 Because for the longest time all of us were just hoarding our material because we were still in that old legacy Hollywood, traditional Hollywood mindset.

00:04:06.000 We're like, alright, I have this polished stuff.

00:04:09.000 I'm waiting to be tapped.

00:04:11.000 I'm waiting for Netflix to say you can do the thing you can do.

00:04:13.000 I'm waiting for Comedy Central.

00:04:15.000 We're waiting.

00:04:16.000 We're asking for permission to do something we already know we can do.

00:04:20.000 And he just saw the power of YouTube and was like, nah, this is powerful enough on its own.

00:04:26.000 And when he did that, and all the comics kind of saw, oh, that's a route?

00:04:31.000 Now look, it's a clip economy on Instagram, and everyone isn't so precious with their material.

00:04:37.000 They're taking their lead from music with SoundCloud and mixtapes.

00:04:41.000 It's like, get it to the people.

00:04:43.000 Exposure is more important than short money.

00:04:46.000 Yeah.

00:04:46.000 Like, what's the point?

00:04:47.000 Like, this special, mine's on YouTube, because I just want eyeballs.

00:04:50.000 I made it myself.

00:04:51.000 I'm not trying to make money off this.

00:04:53.000 Is this your first one?

00:04:54.000 No, I did one, the traditional route, like, on CISO. It was like, who the fuck knows what CISO is? 0.98

00:04:59.000 Remember CISO? I do remember CISO. That was like Quibi before, Quibi, just like, yeah. 1.00

00:05:03.000 What happened to all the...

00:05:04.000 Didn't Doug Stanhope have a special on CISO? A couple guys did.

00:05:07.000 Yeah.

00:05:08.000 Brody had one on there, too.

00:05:09.000 Did he?

00:05:10.000 Brody had one on?

00:05:10.000 Brody had one, yeah.

00:05:11.000 So, I mean, it allowed me to have a special that way.

00:05:16.000 It's in a theater.

00:05:17.000 It's glossy.

00:05:17.000 It's polished and all that.

00:05:19.000 But it's in comedy jail.

00:05:21.000 Like, no one saw it.

00:05:22.000 Because nobody knew what CISO was.

00:05:24.000 Nobody knew how to get it.

00:05:25.000 And nobody wanted to...

00:05:27.000 There was a paywall.

00:05:28.000 And does CISO own it now?

00:05:30.000 Well, Comedy Dynamics produced it, so they licensed it to Comedy Central.

00:05:34.000 So it's on Comedy Central's YouTube, my first special.

00:05:37.000 Oh, great.

00:05:38.000 You can watch it right now.

00:05:39.000 My old one, yeah.

00:05:40.000 What's it called?

00:05:41.000 The old one's called There's No Business Like Show Business.

00:05:44.000 It's called The Irish Jew. 0.99

00:05:47.000 There's No Business Like Show Business?

00:05:49.000 That's what you called it?

00:05:49.000 Yeah, that's the old one, yeah.

00:05:50.000 Boy.

00:05:51.000 And then the new one's called Hat Trick.

00:05:53.000 And I did that one at the store.

00:05:54.000 And I directed it.

00:05:56.000 I did everything.

00:05:57.000 And this is the one you did each room.

00:05:59.000 You did the belly room, the OR, and the main room.

00:06:03.000 What was the order?

00:06:04.000 I started with the OR, and then the main room, and then the belly room.

00:06:09.000 And people ask why I did that order, and it just felt right.

00:06:13.000 In my heart and in my soul, I just knew that was the order I wanted to do.

00:06:16.000 Hmm.

00:06:17.000 Because the OR, I think, is the comedy store.

00:06:21.000 Like, at its core, the original room is the comedy store.

00:06:25.000 Yeah.

00:06:26.000 And then the main room is kind of like Vegas-style, big room, here it is, presentational.

00:06:31.000 Right.

00:06:31.000 And then the belly room is kind of like a hang.

00:06:34.000 It's a vibe.

00:06:36.000 It's like an 80-seater, you know?

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 So I wanted to come out hot with the OR, show the extravagance of the main, and then close it out with the night winding down in the belly.

00:06:48.000 Nice.

00:06:48.000 Yeah.

00:06:49.000 And then there's interstitials.

00:06:50.000 I just wanted to show the store for what it is.

00:06:53.000 Because every time I see it in specials, you know, like Ari shot his there and everything, they fancy it up.

00:06:59.000 Louis C.K. shot a special there?

00:07:00.000 Yeah, yeah, he did his in the main room.

00:07:03.000 But they dress it up, and I'm like, that, it's not exactly the store.

00:07:08.000 So I just wanted to really capture the vibe.

00:07:10.000 So in the special, in between sets, I'm talking to Theo, Tim Dillon, Santino.

00:07:17.000 So you get to see what it's like us hanging out before we go.

00:07:20.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:07:21.000 On stage, yeah.

00:07:22.000 So it's a special from a comedian's POV. And how did you arrange the conversations with Dylan and Santino and all that?

00:07:30.000 It wasn't premeditated.

00:07:31.000 The whole point of this...

00:07:33.000 Like, they didn't even know.

00:07:34.000 I mean, I asked them, obviously, but I just had very skeleton, maybe one guy with a camera shooting from afar, and it just picked up organic conversations.

00:07:44.000 I'm not having the entire conversation on there, but you get little vignettes and slices of what it's like in the hallway, in the parking lot.

00:07:52.000 You know, Brennan driving up, fist bumping, you know, like, it's what it's like to be a comic in the store.

00:07:56.000 That's nice.

00:07:57.000 Yeah.

00:07:57.000 And when did you film it?

00:08:00.000 Maybe...

00:08:00.000 I'm trying to think.

00:08:01.000 Like January or...

00:08:03.000 Yeah, a couple...

00:08:05.000 Maybe like...

00:08:05.000 Maybe two...

00:08:06.000 No, February.

00:08:07.000 Like February.

00:08:07.000 So things had just started to come back.

00:08:10.000 The store was finally fully operational.

00:08:12.000 Like full shelves.

00:08:14.000 And then some people wearing masks, some weren't.

00:08:16.000 It was kind of like a choose-your-own-adventure in L.A. with COVID. So you'll see like maybe one person with a mask in one shot or...

00:08:24.000 Yeah, but it was like up and running.

00:08:25.000 It wasn't limited capacity.

00:08:27.000 It was it was running enough to do this type of special Nice Yeah, I can't believe no one had done one this way.

00:08:34.000 So it was just my ace in the sleeve.

00:08:36.000 I'm like Because I'm in this weird place where I've been doing stand-up 20 years.

00:08:40.000 I'm a comics comic like comics like me and stuff and like artistically I'm further along than I am visibility wise and Why do you think that is?

00:08:50.000 I think...

00:08:51.000 I think I would enjoy...

00:08:54.000 I naively, when I was younger and a younger comic, I just thought if I'm funny and crushing the clubs and stuff and I have representation, I trust my representation is getting it done.

00:09:05.000 Like, they will make it happen.

00:09:07.000 My job is just to keep writing material, doing well in the clubs.

00:09:12.000 I would get validation from other comics.

00:09:13.000 Like, oh my god, that's great.

00:09:15.000 I don't know why you're not popping or you're under the radar.

00:09:18.000 I'm like, oh, thanks, man.

00:09:19.000 That feels good when you get validation from other comedians.

00:09:22.000 That means more than anything.

00:09:25.000 When Burr texts me about a bit or whatever, that means more than getting a guest star on something.

00:09:31.000 Because I respect Burr.

00:09:32.000 Because I love stand-up.

00:09:33.000 I respect the craft.

00:09:34.000 When you do it, that means more to me than these little Hollywood things.

00:09:39.000 So I just trusted that my people would get it done.

00:09:42.000 But they have big rosters.

00:09:45.000 Your people don't care as much as you do about you.

00:09:49.000 Do you think that's really what it is?

00:09:51.000 What?

00:09:52.000 Well, listen to what you just said earlier.

00:09:53.000 You have a special that's on CISO. Yeah.

00:09:56.000 So who the fuck saw that? 0.99

00:09:57.000 Nobody. 0.99

00:09:58.000 So how would people know about you?

00:10:00.000 Yeah, okay, here's the thing though.

00:10:02.000 Like, why do that?

00:10:04.000 What about other stuff?

00:10:05.000 What about other ways to get your name out there?

00:10:07.000 And have you been on the road a lot?

00:10:10.000 Yeah, I would go out a little bit.

00:10:12.000 Yeah, that's not a lot.

00:10:13.000 That's the thing.

00:10:14.000 It's like you got to develop markets, right?

00:10:16.000 So you have to develop a following.

00:10:18.000 A lot of guys, like Gabriel Iglesias is a great example. 0.98

00:10:21.000 That guy developed a following just fucking hustling, just constantly hustling, constantly doing shows. 0.99

00:10:26.000 You know? 0.98

00:10:27.000 Like you didn't do that a lot.

00:10:29.000 And you were also in the writing ecosphere.

00:10:31.000 Only during the pandemic.

00:10:33.000 Only during the pandemic?

00:10:34.000 Yeah, because that just fell in my lap because stand-up wasn't happening and then they were a fan of my stand-up and they were like, do you want to ride on the show?

00:10:42.000 Because when you were out here, when you first came out here and you stayed in that apartment building, I remember there were certain gigs you couldn't do or you had to show up late because you had to be in Zoom prison. 0.73

00:10:51.000 Yeah, but they were kind of the lighter, sorry.

00:10:52.000 Yeah, sure.

00:10:53.000 But they were cool.

00:10:54.000 It was kind of nice being in this Zoom writer's room, and it's almost like you have this superpower, because we'd be writing all day, and I'm like, hey guys, can I leave early?

00:11:00.000 I have to do this show with Joe Rogan and Dave Chappelle.

00:11:03.000 And they're just like, yeah!

00:11:05.000 Yeah, go! 1.00

00:11:06.000 What are you doing?

00:11:07.000 It's like a rom-com.

00:11:07.000 They're like, what are you doing?

00:11:08.000 Get out of here! 0.99

00:11:09.000 A rom-com.

00:11:10.000 Kind of.

00:11:11.000 Because it is kind of rock and roll, what we do.

00:11:13.000 Yeah.

00:11:14.000 Well, for people that don't do it, it's probably weird. 0.97

00:11:18.000 The people that used to do it, You make the weirdest noises when you suck on cigars.

00:11:24.000 I watched like 1950s guys smoking cigars.

00:11:30.000 There's a lot of great comics that got trapped in that writer's world.

00:11:34.000 Yeah, I can see.

00:11:35.000 People never found out about them.

00:11:38.000 It's a tragedy. 0.98

00:11:40.000 To this day, I say, Owen Smith is one of the greatest fucking comics alive. 0.94

00:11:44.000 And people don't know who he is, unfortunately, other than people talking about him. 0.88

00:11:48.000 Because you can make a really good living doing what he does.

00:11:52.000 He makes a very good living as a writer and a producer.

00:11:55.000 But when you watch that guy do stand-up, you're like, how is this guy not huge?

00:11:59.000 How is he not selling out theaters and stadiums? 0.99

00:12:02.000 He's fucking... 1.00

00:12:03.000 Excellent. 0.99

00:12:04.000 His timing, his writing, everything's excellent.

00:12:07.000 He's far beyond...

00:12:09.000 You want to talk about a guy whose ability is far beyond his name?

00:12:13.000 It's Owen Smith.

00:12:14.000 In my book.

00:12:15.000 That's my number one guy.

00:12:16.000 I love Owen too.

00:12:17.000 I see him at the store all the time.

00:12:18.000 He's my number one guy in terms of underrated guys.

00:12:21.000 Yeah.

00:12:22.000 I think once you get that writing opportunity, you kind of decide what...

00:12:27.000 Some guys just gravitate towards it.

00:12:28.000 You know, some people get into stand-up, they do it for four years, they get a writing gig, and they're happy.

00:12:35.000 That's all they wanted to do.

00:12:36.000 They weren't like real stand-ups.

00:12:37.000 It was kind of a springboard for them.

00:12:40.000 But there's some people who do it and they're like, I don't...

00:12:43.000 It's like a deal with the devil a little bit.

00:12:46.000 You'll get complacent.

00:12:47.000 You'll get tired at night.

00:12:48.000 You don't want to go out and do a set.

00:12:50.000 The money's good.

00:12:51.000 Maybe you have some kids and a wife and then you're in this golden cage.

00:12:55.000 Yeah.

00:12:56.000 Yeah, Tony was telling me how when he was doing it, he did a lot of writing, but he never stopped doing sets.

00:13:03.000 And they would say, man, come on, come out with us for drinks.

00:13:06.000 You don't have to do a set.

00:13:07.000 And you'd go, what? 0.99

00:13:08.000 What the fuck did you say? 1.00

00:13:10.000 And his mind was very clear. 1.00

00:13:12.000 He's like, I am a comic.

00:13:14.000 I am doing this writing thing for money while I develop an act to be one of the best comics in the world.

00:13:19.000 Okay.

00:13:19.000 That's how I approach it, too.

00:13:23.000 When I was writing in the room, because people were like, oh, you should just keep on doing it and just go down that writer path.

00:13:29.000 But the thing is, then you put out your flame.

00:13:33.000 The whole reason I got the job is because they liked my stand-up.

00:13:37.000 Every opportunity I've gotten in Hollywood is because of my stand-up.

00:13:40.000 So why would I extinguish my superpower?

00:13:44.000 You know?

00:13:45.000 Because then you just become a writer and there's nothing wrong with that.

00:13:48.000 But that's more common than a very good stand-up.

00:13:51.000 It's also, it's like, how do writers know if they're funny?

00:13:55.000 You know?

00:13:56.000 I mean, you know if you're funny when you interact with people.

00:13:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:59.000 But I guess you know you're funny if you're funny in a room.

00:14:02.000 Like, perfect example.

00:14:03.000 Matt Stone and Trey Parker.

00:14:05.000 They're hilarious. 0.99

00:14:06.000 The funniest fucking guys on earth. 1.00

00:14:07.000 They don't do stand-up. 0.99

00:14:09.000 But South Park is one of the greatest shows the world has ever known.

00:14:13.000 If not, the greatest comedy show of all time.

00:14:15.000 It's a real good argument that it's the greatest comedy show of all time.

00:14:18.000 The greatest cartoon of all time, for sure.

00:14:19.000 And for how good it is for how long is amazing.

00:14:22.000 I don't know any show that's had that type of consistency.

00:14:24.000 Insane.

00:14:25.000 And apparently it's just Trey Parker. 1.00

00:14:26.000 He's a fucking complete maniac. 1.00

00:14:30.000 Have you ever watched that show? 1.00

00:14:31.000 What is it called?

00:14:32.000 Seven Days to Air or Six Days to Air?

00:14:33.000 Something like that, whatever it's called.

00:14:34.000 It's a great documentary.

00:14:36.000 I love that inside baseball stuff.

00:14:37.000 No matter what the subject is, I'm so fascinated.

00:14:40.000 It's interesting to see how the sausage is made.

00:14:44.000 And a lot of it is Trey Parker.

00:14:46.000 There's people like that that are just wizards.

00:14:48.000 Yeah, you know, they just they just have a thing and they know and obviously He's got a system completely down and they hire great writers and you know They've got the people at Comedy Central are smart enough to leave them the fuck alone Which is rare, you know to have a network it just sort of goes go ahead But it's always it's nice when you do have a conglomerate like that to just trust the artist because look what gets produced I think it's tough when you have a lot of cooks in the kitchen who don't My favorite things,

00:15:16.000 artistically, are pretty singular in vision, like Chappelle's show.

00:15:20.000 They didn't have a lot of meddling in that.

00:15:22.000 Well, they started to meddle when it started to make a lot of money, and that was one of the reasons why Dave quit.

00:15:28.000 When Dave, you know, got the offer, it wasn't the money that corrupted him, where he's like, I don't need this 50 million dollars.

00:15:34.000 It was what it came with.

00:15:36.000 It came with them trying to censor the show to make it more friendly to advertisers.

00:15:41.000 Like, they were literally telling him, don't say this, don't say that, do this, don't do that. 0.98

00:15:46.000 And Dave was like, I see the fucking writing on the wall here. 0.83

00:15:50.000 And it was quite a legendary move to fucking vanish for 10 years and Do you remember when he was doing shows in Seattle? 0.98

00:15:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:15:58.000 Where he would pull up with a little portable speaker in the park and do a stand-up set, and everybody's like, what the fuck is going on? 0.99

00:16:05.000 Is that Dave Chappelle? 0.98

00:16:05.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:16:06.000 And he would just set up shop in the park and do stand-up.

00:16:10.000 It just added to the legend. 0.95

00:16:12.000 I think at the time, the world was like, what a dumb move. 0.71

00:16:15.000 He's going to regret this. 0.82

00:16:17.000 Because I guess that's not betting on yourself to people, you know?

00:16:20.000 Yeah.

00:16:20.000 Or it is betting on yourself.

00:16:21.000 And they're like, why would you do that?

00:16:22.000 And then from the vantage point that we're at right now, like, what a move.

00:16:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:27.000 Fucking legendary. 0.99

00:16:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:16:29.000 And then when he came back, you know, he came back and started doing shows and kind of got into the groove again and then started killing it and then started putting out specials and then getting attacked.

00:16:43.000 What's your take on that?

00:16:44.000 What do you think is going on?

00:16:46.000 Well, for sure, the Will Smith thing opened up the door to the idea to that guy, the guy who attacked Chappelle.

00:16:55.000 And it's also, you know, there's a narrative that his jokes are transphobic.

00:17:03.000 They are not.

00:17:05.000 That set is not transphobic.

00:17:07.000 That set, if you really watch it and pay attention to it, it has a transgender person in it who he loved, who was a good friend of his, who he had open for him at shows, at least one show, and talked about with great love and respect.

00:17:23.000 With humor.

00:17:24.000 But it wasn't transphobic.

00:17:26.000 It wasn't.

00:17:28.000 It had to do with a trans person.

00:17:32.000 But we live in this weird era where you can't even make fun of a thing unless you're a bad person. 0.97

00:17:40.000 You're a hater.

00:17:43.000 Like, fun equals hate now.

00:17:45.000 It's like Ricky Gervais is catching a lot of it now for his latest special. 0.99

00:17:50.000 That fucking first 15 minutes of that special is fire. 0.99

00:17:53.000 It's fire. 0.99

00:17:55.000 It's the best Ricky that I've ever seen. 1.00

00:17:57.000 It's his best shit. 0.98

00:17:58.000 Yeah, and I was telling you too, it's like the Rotten Tomatoes just shows you the disparity between what's going on in the country and what the critics are saying. 0.99

00:18:04.000 And same with Chappelle's stuff too.

00:18:06.000 Well, the critics, you know, what are they?

00:18:09.000 What does that mean?

00:18:10.000 You know, they're just humans, right?

00:18:11.000 But they're humans that are captured by a system.

00:18:13.000 And that system is like, either it's a system that's propagated by social media, or it's a system that, you know, they're on a website that is almost, they're almost all like left-leaning websites that have a problem with it, which is really interesting.

00:18:29.000 You know, it's like the right-wing website.

00:18:31.000 It's like, who would have thought that If you look back on the early days, what we used to think of as conservative versus liberal.

00:18:38.000 Liberal was pro-free speech, people were open-minded, non-violent, you know, and people were open to other people's ideas.

00:18:47.000 And the right was like suppressive, you know, nanny state, you know, condemned certain language, condemned certain behaviors.

00:18:56.000 That's not the case today.

00:18:58.000 Today the left has gone so fucking far left, It's so radical that the right are the ones that are celebrating comedians and celebrating Chappelle.

00:19:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:09.000 They had my back through all the crazy shit that happened with me. 0.99

00:19:12.000 It was Fox News that fucking had my back. 0.97

00:19:15.000 Would you ever think that they would be the ones to cape for you, like, you know, 10 years ago? 0.99

00:19:19.000 I'm so liberal.

00:19:20.000 Yeah.

00:19:20.000 Like, I talk about it all the time.

00:19:22.000 Like, I say I am not a conservative.

00:19:23.000 I'm not conservative.

00:19:25.000 But I am pro-Second Amendment, and I am a hunter, and I am a cage-fighting commentator, and I drink, and I smoke cigars, and I like to bow hunt.

00:19:35.000 So there's a lot in there that's like, hey...

00:19:37.000 There's some crossover.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, but it's just being a human.

00:19:40.000 But I'm a compassionate person, and I believe that there's...

00:19:43.000 Boy, I'll tell you what, though.

00:19:45.000 One thing that happened during this pandemic was it opened my eyes about human nature.

00:19:51.000 I used to be very pro-universal basic income.

00:19:55.000 My thought was, wouldn't it be great if you just had enough money so you could eat and you could pay your rent and then you could pursue what you wanted to?

00:20:05.000 But the reality of human nature came fully into focus when I realized that when some people got all that money from the government, the COVID money, and then they got unemployment, they didn't want to work!

00:20:18.000 I have a friend who has a restaurant.

00:20:19.000 He could not get people to come back to work.

00:20:22.000 Yeah.

00:20:22.000 And one buddy of mine, a bartender told him, I can come back to work, but I can only work for 20 hours a week because that way I get unemployment.

00:20:32.000 So he wouldn't work more than 20 hours a week so he could get free money.

00:20:35.000 So he could have made more money, but he didn't want to because he didn't want to work. 1.00

00:20:39.000 So he was getting that free money, and then my friend was like, what the fuck, man? 0.99

00:20:43.000 Like, okay. 0.99

00:20:45.000 And now he's always short-staffed, and it's a mess.

00:20:50.000 You see a lot of...

00:20:52.000 People that own businesses that have a hard time finding people who work for them.

00:20:57.000 So there's pros to that, right?

00:20:59.000 The pros are it's a marketplace that favors the worker so workers can ask for more money. 0.78

00:21:07.000 So you're seeing a lot of places like bars and restaurants and stuff that have to pay more money per hour.

00:21:12.000 Which I guess is good as long as the restaurant can stay open because it's at a challenge.

00:21:17.000 Well, not so much in Texas, but in California, it's at a very challenging time because the time where everybody was shut down in California was radically extended as opposed to other parts of the country.

00:21:28.000 And in Texas, things were just wide open.

00:21:31.000 That's why I came out here.

00:21:32.000 It was like a totally different world.

00:21:33.000 Yeah.

00:21:34.000 I remember I had that writing job.

00:21:35.000 We were on Zoom. 0.85

00:21:36.000 And my nights would suck.

00:21:37.000 I'm just writing by day.

00:21:38.000 And then normally I would do stand-up at night.

00:21:40.000 And I'm not doing anything.

00:21:41.000 And I'm on Instagram.

00:21:42.000 And then I see Tony post.

00:21:44.000 Sold out. 1.00

00:21:46.000 Kill Tony. 0.99

00:21:46.000 And it's Anton's, you know? 0.99

00:21:48.000 Yeah.

00:21:48.000 And I'm like, what?

00:21:50.000 Like it just kind of like snapped my brain.

00:21:52.000 I go, I could be doing this?

00:21:54.000 So I call up Redman.

00:21:55.000 I'm like, how is it out there?

00:21:56.000 I'm like...

00:21:57.000 He said, you gotta come out here, man.

00:21:58.000 It's great.

00:21:59.000 Well, once the club gets open.

00:22:01.000 After we get out of here, I'll take you to the theater. 0.98

00:22:05.000 We're gonna do some wild shit out here, fame.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, but it's just sort of like, even with the agendas and stuff, and that's why I kind of did my thing on YouTube, too, because I never fit into that Netflix mold, or there's just certain people who pick certain things, and they have a certain brand of comedy that they want to cultivate.

00:22:23.000 And I think the stock prize and what's happening, because there's the mega-famous people who have their specials, and sure, it's great, Home Run, Netflix.

00:22:30.000 But then the up-and-comers, they're not...

00:22:34.000 I'm not knocking all of them.

00:22:35.000 Some of my friends are on there and they do well, but they are under-facilitating this whole market of comedy that is just underserved.

00:22:43.000 I don't think that's what it is.

00:22:45.000 I really don't.

00:22:46.000 Really?

00:22:46.000 Yeah.

00:22:47.000 Like, Giannis' special is great.

00:22:48.000 Why didn't he have one?

00:22:50.000 And he did his own YouTube.

00:22:51.000 It's fine.

00:22:53.000 It doesn't matter.

00:22:55.000 Netflix only has so many resources and so many spots and so many opportunities for people.

00:23:00.000 And do they make some terrible picks?

00:23:05.000 Yeah.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, they do.

00:23:06.000 They've had some that just are bad.

00:23:08.000 Everyone does, though.

00:23:09.000 Well, they leaned into it.

00:23:11.000 They went woke.

00:23:12.000 They gave it a shot.

00:23:13.000 And they went broke. 1.00

00:23:14.000 You know, like, the fucking price of the stock dropped radically. 0.99

00:23:21.000 I mean, you saw what happened to Netflix's stock. 0.99

00:23:24.000 A lot of that has to do with all this...

00:23:27.000 Well, first of all, a lot of it had to do with some stuff that people really freaked out that they had.

00:23:31.000 Like, was that Cuties? 0.99

00:23:32.000 That fucked up show about young drag queens and everybody was like, what the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:23:37.000 That was weird, right? 1.00

00:23:40.000 And then it was, was it young drag queens or was it girls too? 1.00

00:23:43.000 It was like young dancers, like little girl dance teams or something like that.

00:23:47.000 It wasn't boys, right?

00:23:48.000 There was a drag queen thing. 1.00

00:23:50.000 I think I'm complaining the two.

00:23:53.000 There was a thing about young boys that were doing drag shows, but I don't think that was the Netflix thing.

00:24:00.000 But the point is, it's like, you know, there's like an ideological capture that happens when you're connected to these kind of corporate systems that are embracing wokeness.

00:24:12.000 And so you say, well, we're going to find comedians that reflect our ideals.

00:24:17.000 Yeah.

00:24:18.000 Yeah, and our values.

00:24:19.000 But those aren't funny.

00:24:21.000 Yeah.

00:24:22.000 That's what's frustrating because I like funny, you like funny.

00:24:27.000 I have always, my whole life, just gone by funny first and my identity is secondary.

00:24:32.000 That's why I love Tim Dillon.

00:24:33.000 You wouldn't even know that he's gay.

00:24:36.000 So many comics would lead with that and that would be their tent pole for the entire being.

00:24:41.000 That's just like a crumb of what he is.

00:24:43.000 He's so funny regardless of that.

00:24:45.000 He barely talks about it.

00:24:46.000 Barely talks about it.

00:24:47.000 Like, I'm Afghan, but that is secondary.

00:24:49.000 I want to talk about everything.

00:24:50.000 And that didn't fit that agenda because they have boxes and they don't look purely funny.

00:24:57.000 So I'm like, YouTube, I will trust America, you decide.

00:25:02.000 I think that there is this marketplace now where it's like, fuck the system, it's punk rock, America, the world, you decide. 0.92

00:25:09.000 Well, I think Netflix is embracing funny with Ricky Gervais and with Dave Chappelle and with Bill Burr. 0.96

00:25:15.000 And there's a lot of other great comics that have Netflix specials that are just purely funny.

00:25:20.000 But they already have a big name.

00:25:22.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 And the people that are coming up, like Joey Diaz had a bit that they told him he couldn't do.

00:25:29.000 And it was about Terry Crews. 0.65

00:25:31.000 And it was fucking funny. 0.98

00:25:34.000 It was a very funny bit, you know, about, you know, Terry Crews' Me Too allegations about how hot he is. 0.99

00:25:42.000 You know, like, how could gay guys resist him? 1.00

00:25:45.000 It was very funny.

00:25:46.000 But it was just, they decided that he couldn't do that bit.

00:25:50.000 But meanwhile, the audience said he could do that bit.

00:25:53.000 The audience was like, yes.

00:25:54.000 I mean, people were howling. 1.00

00:25:56.000 I was at the store, and there was a fucking gay couple, and they were high-fiving when Joey was doing that bit. 0.99

00:26:01.000 I'm like, who are we offending? 0.99

00:26:02.000 We're not offending these folks.

00:26:03.000 This couple came to see a show, saw Joey do that bit, weren't offending.

00:26:09.000 It was 100% like...

00:26:11.000 Just comedy.

00:26:12.000 It was clear what he was doing.

00:26:14.000 He was just trying to make the most happiness and fun out of a story, out of a subject matter.

00:26:22.000 Yeah, I think sometimes these places don't give the people enough benefit of the doubt.

00:26:26.000 Right.

00:26:26.000 And the only people who are allowed to talk about anything are already huge.

00:26:30.000 But they're not going to allow Joey to do that.

00:26:32.000 They're not going to allow me to do it.

00:26:33.000 They're not going to allow, you know?

00:26:34.000 Yeah.

00:26:34.000 So, YouTube, you can.

00:26:36.000 Yeah, but you can on YouTube.

00:26:37.000 We talked about Schultz.

00:26:38.000 Like, Schultz released his stuff on YouTube and then he got a Netflix thing.

00:26:42.000 Yes.

00:26:42.000 They came back to him.

00:26:44.000 Exactly.

00:26:45.000 Well, he became, I love this quote, I use it all the time, be undeniable.

00:26:49.000 He became undeniable. 1.00

00:26:51.000 His shit on Netflix or his shit on YouTube and his shit on Instagram, the Turn Your Phone Sideways stuff, was so genius that they were like, this fucking guy needs a show. 1.00

00:27:00.000 And they were like, yeah. 1.00

00:27:01.000 And then when he put the show together, it was excellent.

00:27:04.000 And so it was like, and a lot of people complained about it.

00:27:07.000 But that's about everything that's funny.

00:27:10.000 You're not going to make everybody happy if you're doing it the right way.

00:27:14.000 It's just how it goes.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, it was such a different way of doing things that it's become a blueprint for other comics, and it's great.

00:27:23.000 I think it's allowed me to do this as well, and he's been really helpful.

00:27:25.000 I hit him up when I was going to do this YouTube release.

00:27:28.000 I go, hey, do you have any advice?

00:27:30.000 He gave me the full download.

00:27:31.000 He was so happy to help out.

00:27:33.000 It wasn't like I have the secret sauce.

00:27:35.000 It's only for me.

00:27:36.000 He wants this pushback to what it is.

00:27:40.000 It's great.

00:27:41.000 We're all helping each other, and we are the gatekeepers now.

00:27:44.000 It's not like one guy at a company anymore.

00:27:45.000 Yeah, that's how it should be.

00:27:47.000 And we all support ourselves.

00:27:50.000 I talk about this probably too much for people listening to this again.

00:27:53.000 But we have an organic network.

00:27:56.000 And the organic network is friends that have each other on each other's podcasts and talk about each other.

00:28:02.000 Oh, this guy's so funny.

00:28:03.000 Oh my God, go see Chris DiStefano.

00:28:05.000 Go see Giannis Pappas or Joe List or whoever these people are.

00:28:09.000 It's like, we have a bunch of really funny friends, and we let everybody know, and then everybody sort of does each other's shows.

00:28:16.000 We do shows together, we do stand-up together, we do podcasts together, we do specials.

00:28:21.000 And, you know, that's the way to do it.

00:28:23.000 That way it's natural. 0.97

00:28:24.000 Like, if you're on Tom Segura's show, and Tom Segura says, Fahim is fucking hilarious. 0.96

00:28:29.000 Bam, okay. 0.82

00:28:30.000 Tom gives you the stamp of approval.

00:28:33.000 Everyone knows you're good to go.

00:28:34.000 Yeah.

00:28:34.000 Yeah, and it works that way.

00:28:36.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 Because there's no reason for him to lie.

00:28:39.000 But, you know, if you go on a Tonight Show, I don't want to single out to a Tonight Show, but any kind of late night talk show, they don't fucking pick those people.

00:28:46.000 It's like, you know, Jimmy Fallon's going to the clubs and making good friends with all the comics and trying to figure out who's the best guy to get on.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:53.000 They just, like, I mean, he's a good guy.

00:28:55.000 Jimmy Fallon's a very good guy.

00:28:56.000 Yes.

00:28:56.000 Whoever gets on his show gets on his show because some executive goes and scouts or they get a packet sent by an agent.

00:29:04.000 Mm-hmm.

00:29:04.000 You know, that stuff is not really as appealing to people anymore because they've heard this.

00:29:11.000 They've heard the raw stuff where people get together and just really just fucking drink scotch and smoke cigars. 0.78

00:29:18.000 Totally. 1.00

00:29:19.000 Talk shit. 1.00

00:29:19.000 Man, like, there is this shift, I think, before podcasting and before YouTube and Instagram where you can pull back the curtain to what comedy and stand-up and this world really is. 1.00

00:29:31.000 All we had was the gloss of The Tonight Show and all that.

00:29:33.000 But now people really like the nitty gritty stuff.

00:29:36.000 And they're a little more savvy.

00:29:38.000 They know about the comedy store, for instance.

00:29:42.000 It's talked about so much on podcasts and everything.

00:29:45.000 And me doing my special there, it's like people get to see the hallways and stuff.

00:29:49.000 And people want to see that element of it.

00:29:52.000 They just don't want to see the five minute Tonight Show thing or a special glossy paid audience.

00:29:57.000 I just tagged along on a regular night of operation at the store.

00:30:00.000 People didn't know I'm shooting a special.

00:30:03.000 Very small footprint.

00:30:04.000 People had no idea I was taping.

00:30:07.000 And it was conscious because when I did my CISO thing, it's like you load in the audience, there's lights, and it's sort of a recreation of your act that you've been developing in grimy clubs.

00:30:18.000 But that's stand-up when it's not being filmed.

00:30:21.000 Yeah.

00:30:21.000 Right, right, right.

00:30:22.000 So I wanted to capture the material, not do a recreation presentation of the real material.

00:30:30.000 You know what I mean?

00:30:30.000 I know exactly what you mean.

00:30:31.000 Yes, because it's a different type of laugh when people know they're being filmed as opposed to just them acting natural.

00:30:38.000 Right.

00:30:39.000 Yeah.

00:30:40.000 So there's a beauty to that, too.

00:30:41.000 Right.

00:30:42.000 It's like when you go to...

00:30:43.000 Have you ever been to a filming of, like, The Tonight Show?

00:30:45.000 And they have the applause signs?

00:30:47.000 Yeah.

00:30:47.000 They tell you when to applaud.

00:30:49.000 Like...

00:30:52.000 Trained Seals.

00:30:52.000 Or a sitcom.

00:30:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:54.000 Well, you were on one.

00:30:55.000 Oh, God, yeah.

00:30:56.000 Five years.

00:30:56.000 So they have, in between the scene, the warm-up guy, like, where are you from?

00:31:00.000 Yeah, well, let's have a dance contest. 0.90

00:31:01.000 You from Detroit?

00:31:02.000 Where are you from?

00:31:03.000 All right, guys, break.

00:31:04.000 And it's like, two dads?

00:31:04.000 Did you ever do that?

00:31:05.000 Did you ever do a warm-up?

00:31:06.000 No.

00:31:07.000 I got asked to, but I just, that's kind of like a writing thing, too, where you can go down that rabbit hole and people will only view you as a warm-up act.

00:31:15.000 That's a problem.

00:31:15.000 And you can't get out of that box.

00:31:17.000 You're 100% right.

00:31:18.000 Like, Brody was in that for a while.

00:31:20.000 Yes.

00:31:21.000 Yeah.

00:31:22.000 Yeah, Brody was just...

00:31:24.000 I mean, you want to talk about a comics comic.

00:31:26.000 They didn't know what to do with Brody.

00:31:28.000 Yeah.

00:31:28.000 Because he was our guy.

00:31:30.000 But also, because he was like a shooting star, you try to capture that.

00:31:37.000 Because they would try to film something, and then Brody wouldn't be...

00:31:40.000 Brody.

00:31:40.000 Yes.

00:31:41.000 So it's hard to capture that in a bottle.

00:31:44.000 Yeah.

00:31:45.000 He became a guy that was like a legendary live performer.

00:31:51.000 You wanted to see him at the club.

00:31:55.000 Like Don Barris.

00:31:56.000 Great example, right?

00:31:58.000 Don Barris does a lot of warm-up too.

00:32:00.000 He does a warm-up for the Kimmel Show.

00:32:01.000 But you really don't know Don Barris until you see him doing a 12-15 spot at the store.

00:32:07.000 Yeah.

00:32:07.000 That's Don Barris.

00:32:08.000 That's the real Don Barris, you know?

00:32:10.000 There's some people who you can't capture their essence when you take the lens cap off.

00:32:16.000 Like, they just know, like, like, Holtzman's one of those guys, too, where it's hard to capture the magic of that.

00:32:22.000 Joey Diaz is that way.

00:32:23.000 Joey Diaz is that way, too.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:32:25.000 Where, yeah, it's like putting a saddle on a horse or something.

00:32:28.000 It just doesn't want it.

00:32:30.000 Well, horses wear saddles all the time.

00:32:32.000 I don't know if that's the best analogy.

00:32:33.000 Let's see.

00:32:33.000 A zebra?

00:32:34.000 A zebra?

00:32:35.000 Yes.

00:32:35.000 Can we edit the horse thing out?

00:32:36.000 I don't want people to know that I don't know my horses.

00:32:39.000 Don't put a saddle on a zebra.

00:32:41.000 We were just talking about that.

00:32:42.000 I said that zebras can't be tamed. 0.99

00:32:45.000 And one of my friends sent me a video of a fucking guy who got a saddle on a zebra and was riding a zebra. 0.99

00:32:50.000 And I'm like, that's like having a wolf for a pet. 0.99

00:32:54.000 It was like, do you really have a pet wolf?

00:32:56.000 Or does that wolf just hang out with you because you feed him?

00:33:00.000 That's a good point.

00:33:01.000 My dog, Marshall.

00:33:02.000 I love Marshall.

00:33:03.000 He's the best.

00:33:03.000 Every photo, I love Marshall.

00:33:05.000 He's a real pet.

00:33:07.000 Marshall is the sweetest, friendliest dog.

00:33:11.000 I've never had a golden retriever before, and I always had heard that they're the best family dogs.

00:33:16.000 He's not even a dog.

00:33:18.000 He's a magical creature that's like a love sponge.

00:33:21.000 All he wants to do is people come over the house, he starts whining, You're here!

00:33:26.000 Everybody gets greeted like they're his new best friend.

00:33:29.000 Does he bring a shoe?

00:33:30.000 No, he usually brings stuffed animals.

00:33:32.000 He has a box of stuffed animals.

00:33:34.000 So when people start walking down the driveway towards the house, he sees them and he runs to his box and he grabs a stuffed animal.

00:33:41.000 So cute.

00:33:42.000 So many of them will bring a shoe, and I just love it.

00:33:45.000 Like, it's just so weird to me.

00:33:46.000 I know it's dog behavior, but it's just so funny when a golden comes with a shoe.

00:33:50.000 Like, here you go!

00:33:51.000 They're retrievers.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, I know.

00:33:53.000 You'd be like, thank you!

00:33:54.000 Thanks for this one shoe that isn't mine.

00:33:56.000 Well, they get praised for retrieving.

00:33:58.000 Like, I've never had a dog that I could teach how to catch a ball and bring it back better than Marshall.

00:34:05.000 Like, he immediately did it, from the time he was a baby.

00:34:08.000 Like, I had dogs, and I would throw the ball to them, and they'd chase after the ball, and go, hey, bring it back! 1.00

00:34:13.000 And they'd be like, fuck you! 1.00

00:34:14.000 And then they'd run away with the ball. 1.00

00:34:16.000 And he'd be like, come on, man, I gotta teach you how to do this.

00:34:18.000 You gotta bring it back to me, so you like chasing it, right?

00:34:20.000 Well, I gotta throw it for you to chase it, so you gotta bring it back to me.

00:34:24.000 And like, I had pit bulls before, and they never wanted to give the ball back.

00:34:27.000 They're like...

00:34:29.000 Like, I tried to pull it out of their mouth.

00:34:30.000 They were playing tug of war.

00:34:32.000 Yeah, but Marshall came out the womb knowing how to do it? 0.69

00:34:34.000 Out of the womb! 0.99

00:34:35.000 Like, right away.

00:34:35.000 I mean, I don't remember teaching him how to fetch.

00:34:38.000 I think he just fetched.

00:34:40.000 Like, right away, he fetched.

00:34:42.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:34:42.000 I used to have a cat that would fetch.

00:34:44.000 Whoa.

00:34:45.000 Yeah.

00:34:45.000 Her name was Cosmo.

00:34:46.000 And I used to take, like, a little piece of paper, and I would crumple it up in a ball, and I would throw it.

00:34:52.000 And she would chase it, and she would bite it. 0.75

00:34:54.000 And she would bring it back to me. 1.00

00:34:55.000 I'd play fetch with a fucking cat. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Some people will have outdoor cats or go on a walk with a cat. 1.00

00:35:01.000 That's weird.

00:35:01.000 Yeah, it is weird.

00:35:05.000 But that dog, that's a pet.

00:35:09.000 I had a friend who had three wolf dogs.

00:35:12.000 They were like 70s Timberwolf.

00:35:13.000 They were not his pets. 0.94

00:35:15.000 I'd go over to his house and I'd be like, oh, you got roommates that are murderers. 1.00

00:35:19.000 He lived with a bunch of fucking, three wolves. 1.00

00:35:22.000 They were real wolves. 1.00

00:35:23.000 They were big, man. 1.00

00:35:25.000 Big ass fucking dogs. 1.00

00:35:26.000 I went to go see the bats, you know, underneath the bridge. 1.00

00:35:29.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:29.000 Is that every night?

00:35:31.000 Yes.

00:35:32.000 Every night at dusk.

00:35:33.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

00:35:34.000 It's like Bat Coachella. 0.54

00:35:35.000 Everyone is just on that hill.

00:35:36.000 They're like, ah!

00:35:37.000 The bats are going to come out!

00:35:39.000 Even during the pandemic, they didn't develop a bat phobia.

00:35:42.000 No.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, and it started supposedly from bats.

00:35:46.000 Allegedly.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:46.000 But they didn't give a shit.

00:35:47.000 They're like, they're not going to bite me. 0.99

00:35:48.000 They're just going to fly by me.

00:35:49.000 But it's just so funny seeing all those people on the hill and on the bridge like, bats, bats, bats.

00:35:53.000 It is weird when you see them come out.

00:35:55.000 So many.

00:35:57.000 Yeah, there's like this big flow of them.

00:36:00.000 Apparently there's millions of bats under there.

00:36:02.000 So was that just inadvertent? 0.99

00:36:04.000 They built this bridge and they go, oh fuck, we built the perfect bat habitat? 0.99

00:36:08.000 I believe so. 1.00

00:36:09.000 Huh.

00:36:09.000 Yeah, because when you go under that bridge, have you ever been under that bridge?

00:36:13.000 No, I've just seen it from like afar.

00:36:15.000 If you go under in a boat or something like that, you can hear them.

00:36:18.000 Oh yeah.

00:36:19.000 I would call that the sound check.

00:36:21.000 Just like when they're about to come out. 0.99

00:36:23.000 You hear this fucking weird noise. 0.99

00:36:25.000 It's kind of creepy. 0.99

00:36:27.000 Let's find out how many bats. 0.94

00:36:30.000 I said millions.

00:36:31.000 I might have exaggerated.

00:36:31.000 It was a never-ending stream of bats.

00:36:34.000 I think it's at least a million.

00:36:35.000 We left.

00:36:36.000 We walked out on the bat show because it was just lasting so long. 0.97

00:36:39.000 We get it.

00:36:40.000 They're flying away.

00:36:41.000 But the thing is, you need those bats because those bats keep the insect population down.

00:36:44.000 Those bats are predators.

00:36:47.000 They're out there eating bugs.

00:36:48.000 I don't know.

00:36:49.000 How long do bats live?

00:36:50.000 That's a good question.

00:36:51.000 Do they live longer than a year?

00:36:53.000 Let's guess.

00:36:54.000 Probably, right?

00:36:54.000 Let's guess.

00:36:55.000 I'll say a bat lives... 0.98

00:37:00.000 A long life for a dog is like 15 years.

00:37:04.000 I'll say five, five or seven.

00:37:06.000 Yeah, I'll say five.

00:37:06.000 Most bats live less than 20. 20 years.

00:37:10.000 Six species live more than 30. Damn. 1.00

00:37:13.000 And you are not wrong. 0.99

00:37:14.000 There is an estimated 750,000 to 1.5 million bats.

00:37:21.000 That's a lot of bats. 0.78

00:37:23.000 Wow.

00:37:23.000 But they're migratory, so they come and go.

00:37:25.000 Wow, wonder where they go?

00:37:27.000 Mexico.

00:37:27.000 Oh, they go to Mexico?

00:37:29.000 They fly from Austin to Mexico and back?

00:37:31.000 They go to a party, dude.

00:37:33.000 Or they go for the drugs and they come back.

00:37:35.000 Yeah, which is what everybody would do if we all had jetpacks.

00:37:40.000 Imagine if everybody could fly. 0.99

00:37:41.000 All your borders would be bullshit. 0.99

00:37:43.000 That's the only thing that keeps people in countries, like the only way you have border protection and all that shit is the fact that you have people stuck on Earth with gravity. 0.99

00:37:54.000 My god, can you imagine once jetpacks become ubiquitous, like Border Patrol is going to be like the Mandalorian just fighting people trying to come over in the sky?

00:38:01.000 I think they'll just give up.

00:38:03.000 We won't have the resources to stop it.

00:38:05.000 I mean, ultimately, look, I think right now, especially given the laws that we have now and the fact that fentanyl comes across the border and terrorists come across the border and there's a real situation, the world is not at peace.

00:38:18.000 But wouldn't it be great if people could kind of go anywhere they wanted?

00:38:24.000 And everywhere was a place where you could live and thrive.

00:38:28.000 Like, imagine a world where every place was like a city that had opportunity and freedom and democracy and was thriving and had good food and nice people.

00:38:42.000 Like, Austin has good food, nice people, polite, not too overcrowded, plenty of resources.

00:38:47.000 Wouldn't it be great if the whole world was like that?

00:38:48.000 And you could kind of go anywhere you wanted.

00:38:51.000 I will say, it feels more crowded than when I was here.

00:38:55.000 It seems like there's more people here.

00:38:57.000 Really?

00:38:57.000 Yeah.

00:38:58.000 Somebody told me the population doubled, like, in the last year.

00:39:02.000 Rainy Street is crazy.

00:39:03.000 Is it always like that?

00:39:04.000 Well, this is Memorial Day weekend, first of all.

00:39:06.000 Like, last night was nuts on 6th Street.

00:39:09.000 Did you go out afterwards?

00:39:10.000 No.

00:39:11.000 6th Street was mobbed. 1.00

00:39:13.000 We were driving, like, this is fucking nuts for a Sunday night. 0.99

00:39:15.000 And then, you know, my friend Sean was like, oh, it's Memorial Day weekend. 0.99

00:39:20.000 I was like, that's right.

00:39:21.000 I didn't even think of that.

00:39:23.000 It's not...

00:39:25.000 It's not normal to have that many people on a Sunday night, but it's kinda normal.

00:39:29.000 Like, on any given Tuesday or Wednesday when we do the Vulcan, it's mobbed.

00:39:34.000 The club's mobbed, and the streets are mobbed, and it's just...

00:39:37.000 It's a unique place.

00:39:39.000 It is.

00:39:39.000 It's really unique.

00:39:40.000 Yours is on there, right?

00:39:42.000 Shh, shh, shh, shh, don't tell it anymore. 1.00

00:39:42.000 Oh, fuck, fuck, shh. 1.00

00:39:44.000 I mean, shh. 1.00

00:39:44.000 Somewhere else. 1.00

00:39:45.000 It's gonna be awesome.

00:39:46.000 Just wait.

00:39:47.000 I can't wait to show you because we have so many cool things that are in the place that we're putting together.

00:39:53.000 It's wild.

00:39:54.000 How did you design it?

00:39:56.000 What was going through your head?

00:39:58.000 What do you want it to be?

00:39:59.000 Is there a vibe you're trying to capture?

00:40:00.000 Is there other clubs that you kind of are trying to pull some things from?

00:40:04.000 Well, I wanted to make it very hospitable to comics, and obviously to audience members too.

00:40:11.000 But one of the cool things about the store was The Hang.

00:40:16.000 It's our home base.

00:40:18.000 So the name of the club is The Comedy Mother Show.

00:40:20.000 I want you to feel like this is your mother.

00:40:27.000 This is home.

00:40:28.000 Like, you can do the road from here.

00:40:31.000 You can hang out.

00:40:31.000 And you'll always be welcome.

00:40:32.000 You'll be taken care of.

00:40:34.000 Like, I want to give the comics health insurance.

00:40:36.000 Whoa, for real?

00:40:38.000 Yeah, for real.

00:40:39.000 That's so not typical.

00:40:41.000 That's, like, insanity in America.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, but it should be like that. 0.99

00:40:44.000 But you know how many comics have paid for their fucking surgeries? 0.98

00:40:46.000 Like, comics that have, like, things wrong with them. 0.99

00:40:48.000 And I find out, like, what's wrong?

00:40:50.000 Are you okay?

00:40:51.000 And they're like, um, I got something wrong with my neck.

00:40:53.000 I'm like, what's wrong?

00:40:55.000 Tell me what's wrong.

00:40:55.000 And then I... Take care of it.

00:40:57.000 I've had that happen multiple times because a lot of us in the early days, you're broke and you're barely paying your rent.

00:41:05.000 You can't afford surgery.

00:41:07.000 You can't afford insurance. 1.00

00:41:08.000 And so if something goes wrong, you're kind of fucked. 1.00

00:41:11.000 For sure. 0.99

00:41:12.000 I feel like stand-ups were the lowest rung on the entertainment ladder.

00:41:15.000 At least actors have SAG, health insurance, and writers.

00:41:18.000 There's nothing like that for stand-ups, really.

00:41:22.000 You're alone out there, and you just have to hope you have friends if some calamity befalls you.

00:41:27.000 Like a GoFundMe, or hopefully you know the person, you know? 0.97

00:41:31.000 And that's kind of fucked up, so...

00:41:32.000 Well, the idea is to make, you know, make it more... 0.97

00:41:37.000 But again, you gotta be careful that you don't set it up where people become too lax.

00:41:45.000 You know, people have a tendency to sort of like...

00:41:49.000 Relax too much.

00:41:50.000 And I don't mean relax too much like not enjoy your life.

00:41:52.000 I want people to enjoy their lives.

00:41:53.000 But I also want them to work hard.

00:41:55.000 And I don't mean work hard like struggle.

00:41:59.000 I mean put in effort and actually try.

00:42:02.000 That's uncomfortable.

00:42:03.000 It's uncomfortable to put in effort.

00:42:05.000 But it has to be rewarded.

00:42:07.000 And it has to be encouraged.

00:42:09.000 And that's how people develop a whole community of other people doing the same thing.

00:42:13.000 And then it feels good to do that because you're one of the people that's doing that.

00:42:16.000 So as you're writing every night and as you're trying new stuff, people pat you on the back. 0.99

00:42:21.000 Hey, Fahim, your new fucking shit is awesome. 1.00

00:42:23.000 That's great. 1.00

00:42:24.000 That's a great feeling, right?

00:42:25.000 And it's great when you see other people that are going up and doing new stuff and writing all the time.

00:42:29.000 And it encourages that.

00:42:31.000 So you've got to encourage hard work as well as make things better for people.

00:42:37.000 Yeah.

00:42:39.000 It makes you better as a comic, too.

00:42:40.000 That's why I like being out in LA and being at the store.

00:42:44.000 Just seeing some of the guys, you see what they're doing, and then it makes you do inventory with yourself.

00:42:49.000 And you know where the bar is.

00:42:52.000 Whereas if you're in Ohio or something, sometimes you'll do the road, and someone's featuring for you or something, and they're like, Yeah, this is like my second time getting up this month.

00:43:02.000 I get up twice a month and it's like your heart goes out to them because you're not going to be able to develop with just those few data points.

00:43:10.000 There's no one develops in a vacuum. 0.99

00:43:13.000 Like you never go to like a place that doesn't have a comedy scene and you see one guy who's just a fucking wizard. 0.94

00:43:19.000 Who's so good in this one scene.

00:43:21.000 Maybe you might see more of that today because you see a lot of internet comedy where people get a chance to see comedy.

00:43:29.000 Even if you don't get a chance to visit the cellar, you can watch sets from the cellar on YouTube or Instagram or what have you.

00:43:36.000 So I think you probably have more of a chance of developing somewhere else, but really you need an atmosphere.

00:43:43.000 You need an atmosphere of other people that are also doing it.

00:43:45.000 Yeah, that, to see what your peers are doing, and then also just that feedback from the audience.

00:43:51.000 Sometimes people will see you perform, and they'll be like, I don't know, you're so amazing, that's so great.

00:43:56.000 And you are, but you've developed a skill where the audience is your editor.

00:44:01.000 The audience is doing all the work for you, if you're listening.

00:44:04.000 That's our whole job, is just listening, actively listening, and being an editor.

00:44:09.000 Because we have kernels of ideas, but the audience shapes them into what it is.

00:44:13.000 For sure.

00:44:13.000 So, like I'll go in with some rough stuff, like it's just clay, and then the laughs dictate these polished bits, and like I love that about stand-up the most.

00:44:23.000 Yeah, and stuff comes out like while you're in the middle of talking, you have a new idea that'll come out of nowhere that'll branch off, you know?

00:44:31.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 That's why, like, I always tell comics that you have to have, you don't have to, like, let me stretch this, like, you can do it any way you want.

00:44:39.000 Some guys don't write at all, and they're great. 0.96

00:44:42.000 They're great fucking comics. 0.97

00:44:43.000 They just go up a lot, and they remember what they said. 0.99

00:44:46.000 And some guys write exclusively, and they go up, and they basically have, like, a fully formed bit when they get to the stage, and they kind of tweak it and edit it.

00:44:55.000 And then some guys just improvise, like literally just go on stage with a premise and just under the pressure of the audience, improvise.

00:45:02.000 I think you should do all those things.

00:45:04.000 I think you should write, I think you should improvise, and I think you should go up as much as possible.

00:45:12.000 People say I write on stage.

00:45:14.000 I'm like, I can write on stage too.

00:45:15.000 Anyone can write on stage.

00:45:16.000 But I actually sit down.

00:45:18.000 Like last night I got home. 0.99

00:45:19.000 I sat in front of the fucking computer for two hours. 0.99

00:45:21.000 And I might have nothing out of that. 0.99

00:45:24.000 Or I might have my best bit ever.

00:45:27.000 I never know.

00:45:28.000 And you don't know until you try. 0.99

00:45:30.000 Just stay the fuck off of YouTube. 1.00

00:45:33.000 Don't jerk off. 1.00

00:45:36.000 No incognito mode. 0.99

00:45:37.000 I gotta buckle down.

00:45:38.000 And just write.

00:45:42.000 So the way I do it is I have two laptops.

00:45:44.000 I have a laptop that is like my, like, what's going on in the world laptop.

00:45:48.000 And then I have a laptop like, okay, time to write. 0.98

00:45:51.000 I pull that fucker out and I'm writing. 0.99

00:45:54.000 I like maximizing my stage time. 0.99

00:45:56.000 Any show I do, I know what I want to achieve with that show.

00:46:01.000 This is a lesson that came later in life for me too.

00:46:05.000 The part of stand-up I love the most is chasing the new bit.

00:46:08.000 I did it to a detriment early on.

00:46:10.000 What clicked for me was knowing what bits to do on what show.

00:46:14.000 How did you do it to a detriment?

00:46:16.000 It might be a showcase or something, and I'm like, oh, let me try this new thing I thought of tonight, or like earlier today.

00:46:22.000 I think it's, you know what I mean?

00:46:23.000 Where I didn't realize I need to shine in this show, not try a new bit.

00:46:28.000 So once it clicked for me, knowing what to do, what needs to be achieved on what show.

00:46:34.000 Is this an impressed show?

00:46:36.000 I'm beyond that now. 0.99

00:46:37.000 I'm known in LA and shit. 0.96

00:46:38.000 It's kind of nice to be farther enough in your career where the store trusts you and you can take big swings and like, I'm a made man, I'm fine. 0.68

00:46:47.000 But when you're coming up and you're not a paid regular yet...

00:46:51.000 It's a problem for a lot of comics where they never write because they always want to kill.

00:46:55.000 So they'll do the same 15 minutes everywhere they go.

00:46:57.000 For years and years and years.

00:47:00.000 So you gotta know where to do that. 0.99

00:47:02.000 And if it's a bar show, why the fuck are you trying to smash at some bar show that you're not getting paid for? 0.97

00:47:08.000 Work on some new stuff. 0.99

00:47:09.000 You're getting a hamburger.

00:47:11.000 You don't owe them.

00:47:12.000 It depends.

00:47:13.000 If you're a one-year comic or whatever, okay, you need to get your chops and all that.

00:47:16.000 But if you're five years in and you're doing the same 15 every show, you're wasting these different types of shows.

00:47:23.000 Yeah.

00:47:24.000 Well, people get scared, you know?

00:47:26.000 And there's like two arguments.

00:47:28.000 Like, yeah, you get scared, but also, if you just do that same act over and over again, then you're Bobby Lee. 0.99

00:47:33.000 And you have 15 minutes of fucking thunder. 0.96

00:47:36.000 You know, Bobby's set, when he does a set, it's so tight. 0.99

00:47:40.000 Because he's been doing it for 150 years.

00:47:43.000 He wants to...

00:47:44.000 We've talked about it, and it's kind of a...

00:47:47.000 He has ideas, but he likes crushing.

00:47:50.000 Yeah.

00:47:51.000 But Bobby, he's bigger than comedy, too.

00:47:53.000 He has to podcast.

00:47:54.000 It's upside down.

00:47:55.000 Oh, that makes sense. 1.00

00:47:56.000 You're like, fuck one with your thumbs. 1.00

00:47:58.000 I'm like, goddammit. 1.00

00:48:00.000 So he wants to write new stuff. 0.51

00:48:02.000 Well, he's the unique...

00:48:04.000 He's the one that you could point to. 0.91

00:48:08.000 There's a guy that should have done a special a long fucking time ago.

00:48:11.000 But he's also... 0.93

00:48:13.000 There's a lesson to be learned from that as well, just performance-wise.

00:48:16.000 Because I'll see him...

00:48:17.000 You know, I see him at the store all the time, and...

00:48:19.000 I get tired of stuff very quickly.

00:48:21.000 And when I see Bobby breathe new life into bits that I've heard for a while, it is kind of a reminder to me how to sell the jokes.

00:48:33.000 You don't have to give up on stuff.

00:48:34.000 A good bit is a good bit.

00:48:36.000 There are great performance elements to learn from Bobby.

00:48:40.000 He knows all the beats.

00:48:42.000 He knows where all the corners are.

00:48:44.000 He knows how to make it different each time.

00:48:46.000 So there is nuance in that even.

00:48:49.000 But he started doing his show in Brea where he does new material.

00:48:53.000 And so he's starting to chip away at that.

00:48:55.000 He needs a whole second hour so he could put an hour out.

00:49:00.000 So he needs training wheels.

00:49:01.000 I've been telling Bobby, just like, why don't you have a special?

00:49:04.000 Everybody has been.

00:49:05.000 But he's been fine without it.

00:49:07.000 I think we just selfishly want to see it as friends and comedians.

00:49:10.000 We want him to do better.

00:49:11.000 Yeah.

00:49:12.000 Yeah, that's all it is.

00:49:13.000 And you also, when someone's as good as Bobby is, you want the world to know that this is, you know, people that have seen him know, but I want everybody to see it.

00:49:22.000 Yeah.

00:49:23.000 But it's a thing.

00:49:25.000 I think there's a lot of anxiety and fear in almost every profession that people do.

00:49:32.000 I mean, how many people work for someone and become like a very valuable asset to the company but really feel like they're not getting appreciated enough and they have to decide to make a leap and go on their own?

00:49:44.000 There's a lot of people like that.

00:49:46.000 And then maybe you have a wife and children or a mortgage or a family you're taking care of, family members that depend on you, and you can't really take that chance.

00:49:56.000 You don't know how you take that chance and also take care of all your obligations. 0.98

00:50:01.000 It's fucking hard, man. 0.96

00:50:03.000 That's why comedy is a young person's game in the beginning, in the struggling days. 0.99

00:50:08.000 Like, if you want to start comedy at 50... 1.00

00:50:11.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:50:12.000 I know. 1.00

00:50:12.000 Good luck, bro. 1.00

00:50:13.000 You ever have those guys after a show, they'll come up to you to pick your brain.

00:50:18.000 They're like, hey, I'm a programmer from Oracle.

00:50:21.000 I'm like 47 years old.

00:50:23.000 I've been writing jokes.

00:50:25.000 And you don't want to tell them that it's too late.

00:50:28.000 It's not too late.

00:50:29.000 It can be done.

00:50:30.000 Like Robert Schimmel, who was one of the best ever.

00:50:34.000 Robert didn't start doing stand-up until he was 36. Oh wow.

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:39.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:50:39.000 And he was fucking great. 0.98

00:50:41.000 Anything can be done. 0.98

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:43.000 It's just, stand-up's a lot of hard work no matter what age you are.

00:50:47.000 Dean Del Rey didn't start until he was deep in his 40s.

00:50:49.000 He's inspiring too, just to see, cause like I remember when he started, like I was many years in when he started and like, you don't know, you don't think someone, cause Dean's an outlier.

00:51:00.000 Most guys that age starting will do it for three years and like, I'm out.

00:51:04.000 Yeah.

00:51:04.000 But I think he does like 300 sets a year.

00:51:08.000 He tries to hit a certain amount every year.

00:51:10.000 He's an interesting case because he had a long history of performing as a musician.

00:51:18.000 You ever hear him sing a whole lot of Rosie?

00:51:20.000 He's great.

00:51:21.000 Yeah, great voice.

00:51:21.000 Dude!

00:51:22.000 He's really good.

00:51:23.000 Yeah.

00:51:24.000 Like, he put, uh, him and Burr were doing, um, what they would do is they would do, uh, music during the day before a show.

00:51:31.000 So they would show up at, like, a big, iconic venue, and they would set up drums and recording, and they would fucking just sing for the fun of it.

00:51:40.000 Because Burr is really good on the drums. 0.91

00:51:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:42.000 He gets lessons in everything.

00:51:43.000 I heard when he was doing his show at the Kia Forum, they rent it out, so he paid for the place.

00:51:49.000 So he just brought his...

00:51:50.000 He got a drum lesson in the Kia Forum.

00:51:52.000 What's the Kia Forum?

00:51:53.000 The Great Western Forum?

00:51:55.000 Yeah.

00:51:55.000 Same Forum?

00:51:56.000 LA Forum?

00:51:57.000 Mm-hmm.

00:51:57.000 Yeah.

00:51:58.000 Yeah.

00:51:59.000 Is this him?

00:51:59.000 Let me hear this.

00:52:09.000 This is tribute to Bon Scott.

00:52:28.000 He's really talented, like legitimately good as a singer. 1.00

00:52:33.000 And so for him, you know, he was like, man, this fucking music business is a goddamn grind. 1.00

00:52:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:39.000 You know, I'm friends with the band Honey Honey, the formerly band formerly known as Honey Honey.

00:52:45.000 And Suzanne Santo is a really good friend of mine.

00:52:47.000 And I went to see her live the other day in Austin.

00:52:51.000 And, you know, I know how talented she is. 0.62

00:52:55.000 I've known her for at least 10 years. 0.97

00:52:58.000 But when you see someone live that's that talented and that good, and she sings and she plays musical instruments, she's playing violin, she's playing guitar and singing, she's so fucking good. 0.83

00:53:09.000 I'm like, how is she not famous? 0.79

00:53:11.000 How is she not like uber famous, like Taylor Swift style famous?

00:53:17.000 There's plenty of people like that.

00:53:19.000 Art is just strange in that it's subjective.

00:53:21.000 There's some music I listen to, some artists, where they just resonate with a certain vibration with me, where I'm like, this should be the biggest thing in the world, and it's not.

00:53:31.000 And I will do whatever I can to blast it out if I like a song and all that.

00:53:35.000 And you want that for them.

00:53:37.000 But I think all of art is just, you are compelled to do it, and it's just bursting out of you, and whatever happens, happens.

00:53:43.000 But like...

00:53:44.000 Like the special, I'm proud of it.

00:53:46.000 Hopefully it does what it does.

00:53:47.000 I don't have any expectations.

00:53:48.000 Like, I just made the thing that I wanted to make without any interference.

00:53:53.000 And I'm very zen and peaceful about that.

00:53:56.000 That's awesome.

00:53:56.000 Yeah.

00:53:57.000 That's what it's all about.

00:53:58.000 Keep doing that.

00:54:00.000 Yeah, keep doing that and you'll be great.

00:54:01.000 I mean, you're already doing well.

00:54:02.000 Keep doing that and you'll do better.

00:54:04.000 That's just really what it's about.

00:54:06.000 And the beautiful thing about having something out there like you did and putting it on YouTube is it's super accessible.

00:54:12.000 People are listening to this right now.

00:54:13.000 They're going to pause this on Spotify and go over to your YouTube page and they're going to watch your show and they can get it like that.

00:54:20.000 That's partly why I did it because if it was...

00:54:22.000 There it is.

00:54:23.000 Bam! 0.98

00:54:23.000 We're getting it. 0.98

00:54:24.000 See?

00:54:24.000 Look how quick that was.

00:54:25.000 Is there volume?

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:27.000 Give me some volume.

00:54:29.000 Freddie Prince, Red Fox, Andy Coppin.

00:54:31.000 We're looking at Eddie Murphy, all the names on the wall.

00:54:34.000 I wanted to do all three.

00:54:51.000 The hat trick.

00:54:52.000 And I didn't want to dress it up or smoke it out.

00:54:55.000 I just wanted to show the place for what it is.

00:55:12.000 Oh, this is awesome.

00:55:14.000 That's so cool.

00:55:15.000 It does seem like it.

00:55:16.000 There's Annie.

00:55:17.000 That's awesome.

00:55:18.000 Is that Fitzsimmons?

00:55:19.000 Yeah.

00:55:20.000 Nice. 1.00

00:55:23.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:55:26.000 Look at that. 1.00

00:55:26.000 Bobby brings you up. 1.00

00:55:27.000 So I go on the road sometimes, and sometimes I bring comics on the road.

00:55:31.000 This guy I used to bring on the road, and he got too strong.

00:55:33.000 I can't follow along here. 0.96

00:55:35.000 He's really fucking funny. 0.97

00:55:37.000 This guy is literally one of the best joke writers in this country. 0.94

00:55:41.000 I love him.

00:55:41.000 Feehee Manwar, everybody.

00:55:42.000 Clap your hands.

00:55:47.000 Bobby has this weird thing.

00:55:48.000 And you went up dressed like you would dress on any given night.

00:55:52.000 That's cool, too.

00:55:53.000 You got a baseball hat.

00:55:55.000 I didn't want to make it precious.

00:55:56.000 And I hope that people respond to that.

00:56:00.000 There's something nice about...

00:56:04.000 The look behind the curtain, you know?

00:56:06.000 Yes.

00:56:06.000 And there's no smoke in mirrors.

00:56:08.000 Right.

00:56:08.000 And I like that they're not there for me.

00:56:10.000 They're there for probably a bigger person on the lineup.

00:56:13.000 Right.

00:56:13.000 In all the rooms.

00:56:13.000 I'm probably like the most medium guy on these lineups or whatever.

00:56:17.000 So there's something romantic about making strangers laugh.

00:56:21.000 Yeah.

00:56:21.000 They're not my crowd.

00:56:22.000 And so are you doing how many minutes in each room?

00:56:26.000 Like 14, 15. Oh, so you're doing it like a regular set?

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 These are just my regular sets.

00:56:31.000 Nice.

00:56:32.000 So it's all about capturing.

00:56:33.000 So you just put three regular sets together and strung them together into one show?

00:56:37.000 Yeah.

00:56:38.000 Nice. 0.99

00:56:38.000 And you see me walk around and shit like... 0.99

00:56:40.000 Dude. 1.00

00:56:41.000 Way to go.

00:56:43.000 This is cool. 0.98

00:56:44.000 You fucking managed to do something unique. 0.95

00:56:46.000 I like it. 0.99

00:56:47.000 I love it.

00:56:48.000 Because I knew I was due for another special, and I was going to do it like my other one, but I'm like, who cares? 0.91

00:56:54.000 You know, if I did this material at a theater, like, who gives a shit? 0.96

00:56:57.000 There's so many specials. 0.98

00:56:59.000 And I thought, I am a store guy.

00:57:01.000 That is unique.

00:57:03.000 Not everyone is passed at the store.

00:57:07.000 I have access to this building and this just elevates it.

00:57:11.000 You see like Jessel Nix bringing me up in the main room.

00:57:14.000 Bobby brings me up in the OR. You see these titans of comedy and it's just a regular night at the store.

00:57:22.000 Because people don't realize that this is a hub for us.

00:57:26.000 We're all on the road and then we all come to this place to work out.

00:57:30.000 And did you tell, like, Jeselnik that you were filming?

00:57:32.000 I got clear.

00:57:33.000 Yeah, I had everybody.

00:57:35.000 That's cool.

00:57:36.000 Wow.

00:57:37.000 That's really cool, dude.

00:57:39.000 Thanks, man.

00:57:39.000 You nailed it.

00:57:40.000 What a great idea.

00:57:41.000 It's a really great idea.

00:57:42.000 And it's interesting, like, all the years and years of people doing comedy, nobody figured out how to do that.

00:57:46.000 Dude, it's almost like, has anyone done this?

00:57:49.000 I can't believe I'm the only one to think of this.

00:57:50.000 It's like I invented the wheel or something.

00:57:52.000 Like, how has nobody done this?

00:57:54.000 It's a really good idea.

00:57:55.000 But what's crazy is, because I did it on my own, I had to do like tech stuff too.

00:58:01.000 I had to figure it out.

00:58:02.000 So I had to learn how to plug into the soundboard.

00:58:05.000 I was literally hooking up audio equipment backstage before I'm going on, hitting record.

00:58:10.000 They introduced me.

00:58:11.000 I go out there. 1.00

00:58:12.000 I was like in the shit. 0.99

00:58:14.000 I was like half tech guy, half artist to get this thing done. 1.00

00:58:17.000 Wow.

00:58:18.000 But that's what you got to do.

00:58:21.000 Yeah, why not?

00:58:22.000 I think people make stand-up...

00:58:24.000 We're taking the ownership back.

00:58:27.000 I think there's this shift happening.

00:58:28.000 Because before, we just trusted the system.

00:58:30.000 We would show up, do the thing, make the product, and we would just perform and that's it.

00:58:35.000 And now we're having to be entrepreneurs as well.

00:58:37.000 We're having to take ownership of our own business and careers.

00:58:40.000 Well, when you see guys like Schultz that sort of pioneer that level of hustling, like he hustled so hard and put his stuff on YouTube and became like this giant theater selling act because of that.

00:58:53.000 Did it all in front of our face.

00:58:55.000 Everybody watched him do it all on his own.

00:58:58.000 That's like, guys like that, they set the bar and they change people's ideas of what's possible.

00:59:04.000 If you're really smart and you have a really good focus and you come up with a game plan, Yeah.

00:59:10.000 There's too many tools at our disposal nowadays that if you are not doing stuff like what Schultz is doing or this or doing it on your own, then that is your fault.

00:59:20.000 If you were in the 70s or 80s, you were kind of beholden to the system.

00:59:24.000 You couldn't reach the masses on your own.

00:59:26.000 So you had to have the right person like you at The Tonight Show.

00:59:30.000 I was even thinking about this.

00:59:31.000 Remember back in the day, the path for a stand-up, you would try to get on The Tonight Show.

00:59:38.000 That was like early stand-up, right?

00:59:40.000 And then you would try to get a sitcom, say like in the 90s.

00:59:43.000 You would try to get a sitcom, act in the sitcom, and then that would boost you as a comedian.

00:59:48.000 Yes.

00:59:48.000 But nowadays, if you are a stand-up comedian and you get on a sitcom, nobody cares.

00:59:53.000 Like, nobody watches anything.

00:59:55.000 It's so fractured, the viewership, that even if you get on an ABC sitcom as a stand-up, no one really cares.

01:00:02.000 I feel like podcasting and this world is the new acting.

01:00:07.000 So now when I get an audition and they go, hey, it's like three months in Atlanta.

01:00:13.000 And it's like a very small show or some cable thing.

01:00:17.000 That's great if you just want to be an actor, but it's not going to help your stand-up.

01:00:22.000 Right, right, right.

01:00:23.000 Whereas back in the day, it would.

01:00:25.000 Well, it'll help you a little.

01:00:26.000 There's some guys that get on TV shows and they start doing really well on the road.

01:00:31.000 Stand-ups?

01:00:32.000 Yeah.

01:00:33.000 Like who?

01:00:35.000 That's a good question.

01:00:36.000 It used to be the only way, right?

01:00:40.000 So it became like a well-worn path and everybody would want to get on a sitcom.

01:00:44.000 You get on a sitcom or on some other show like The Soup or some kind of a show where you could be on television and showcase that you have a funny personality.

01:00:58.000 And then that would be an ad to get you to come to the clubs.

01:01:01.000 Stanhope said that best.

01:01:02.000 We were talking about doing TV projects, and he goes, let's be honest, every time you do a TV project, it's really just an ad to get people to come see you at the clubs.

01:01:09.000 I was like, you're 100% right.

01:01:10.000 You're 100% right.

01:01:12.000 But the problem with that way is that everybody wanted to do a specific kind of comedy because you wanted to get a television show.

01:01:21.000 So, like, you wouldn't try to be, like, I remember there's a guy who was the host of an open mic night when I was up and coming, and he was, like, a local headliner in Boston, local professional.

01:01:31.000 And he was telling me to stop swearing and telling me that I should stop talking about sex and talking about things that make people uncomfortable.

01:01:40.000 And I said, but my favorite comedians all do that.

01:01:44.000 I go, like, my favorite comedians are, like, Sam Kinison and Dice Clay.

01:01:48.000 He goes, I got news for you.

01:01:49.000 You're not Dice Clay.

01:01:51.000 And I was like, well, how do you become Dice Clay?

01:01:54.000 Like, what are you saying?

01:01:55.000 Like, you're saying that there's only one style of comedy, even though the best ones are like Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy, who didn't follow that at all?

01:02:03.000 Like, what are you saying?

01:02:04.000 And this is me back then trying to figure out what was going on here.

01:02:09.000 And so, the path was, and Jay Leno still believes this to this day.

01:02:14.000 We actually talked about it when we were doing that Comedy Store documentary.

01:02:17.000 He still thinks to this day, you gotta be clean, and that's the way you get the big, long market.

01:02:22.000 You know, you're just gonna get short-term success if you're dirty.

01:02:25.000 I'm like, this is such a crazy conversation. 1.00

01:02:28.000 Like, clean or dirty, like, I do not give a fuck. 0.98

01:02:30.000 Some of my favorite comedians are clean. 0.99

01:02:32.000 Gaffigan, clean.

01:02:33.000 Genius.

01:02:34.000 Brilliant.

01:02:35.000 Brian Regan.

01:02:36.000 Brian Regan.

01:02:37.000 Clean.

01:02:37.000 Genius.

01:02:38.000 Brilliant.

01:02:39.000 Nate Bargazzi.

01:02:39.000 Clean.

01:02:40.000 Genius.

01:02:40.000 Brilliant.

01:02:41.000 It doesn't matter.

01:02:42.000 It's just good.

01:02:43.000 We don't care.

01:02:44.000 Those guys, to us, there's no difference.

01:02:48.000 It's the same.

01:02:49.000 It's just funny however you're funny.

01:02:51.000 It's funny however you're funny.

01:02:52.000 It's just, what are you doing?

01:02:54.000 You're just doing comedy.

01:02:55.000 I don't want to tell you how to do comedy. 1.00

01:02:57.000 If you want to do clean comedy, fuck yeah. 0.99

01:02:59.000 I'd like watching. 0.99

01:03:01.000 It's hilarious.

01:03:02.000 I love the fact that if I'm watching a Gaffigan special, my 12-year-old walks into the room, I don't have to go, hold on, I have to pause.

01:03:09.000 If Cat Williams is on, I'm like, hey, you're not ready for this.

01:03:13.000 Get out of here.

01:03:14.000 Get out of here.

01:03:15.000 Was news radio big for you?

01:03:18.000 News radio was medium big.

01:03:20.000 Yeah, it's like I was just one of many people on a very talented ensemble.

01:03:26.000 I was only one of eight people.

01:03:27.000 Did that help with stand-up, though?

01:03:29.000 Were people coming out?

01:03:30.000 Yeah, a little bit.

01:03:31.000 Yeah, it helped.

01:03:32.000 Yeah.

01:03:32.000 What was the first big thing, do you think?

01:03:36.000 It was probably Fear Factor.

01:03:38.000 That was after, though, right?

01:03:39.000 But that was 2001. Fear Factor was 2001, right after News Radio.

01:03:44.000 That's when I really started selling out really well.

01:03:48.000 But it was like some people knew me as a stand-up, and some people just knew me as the Fear Factor guy, and a lot of people would get upset.

01:03:54.000 You were telling me backstage about the early days when you were doing Fear Factor.

01:04:00.000 People would get so upset.

01:04:00.000 Because they had this idea of who you were from the show.

01:04:03.000 Yeah, and I had these very controversial bits about Anna Nicole Smith and her husband, and people were like, what are you doing?

01:04:14.000 But what I think is so funny is that the audience is like, we expect better from the Fear Factor host.

01:04:19.000 We thought he'd be clean.

01:04:20.000 They thought I was clean on TV. That makes sense to me.

01:04:24.000 But people get programmed to think a certain way.

01:04:27.000 Like, this is okay, and this is polite, and this is not polite.

01:04:30.000 And that you shouldn't joke around about certain things.

01:04:33.000 Because at work, I'm not allowed to joke about certain things.

01:04:36.000 And on television, they don't joke about certain things.

01:04:38.000 So if you're at a club, how are you allowed to joke about those things?

01:04:42.000 Because it's a club.

01:04:43.000 But I know they don't want to hear that, though.

01:04:45.000 They come to see the guy from TV. It's not a lot of people.

01:04:48.000 But it was a percentage of people.

01:04:50.000 But I was like, look, I could either become a different person and only cater to those people, which a lot of guys did.

01:04:56.000 This is the point.

01:04:56.000 A lot of guys, they developed an act specifically to attract the television world.

01:05:03.000 But that's fleeting.

01:05:04.000 If you are conforming...

01:05:05.000 But it's not fleeting.

01:05:06.000 But it's not fleeting.

01:05:06.000 This is why you're wrong.

01:05:07.000 No.

01:05:08.000 No, no, no. 0.98

01:05:08.000 In the day, when you were Tim Allen, if you could be Tim Allen and get on Home Improvement, you're one of the fucking richest guys on earth. 0.98

01:05:16.000 Like, those guys, like the Jerry Seinfelds, when they developed a show, they were the owner of the show, they were the star of the show, and they got ownership in the show, they made preposterous amounts of money.

01:05:25.000 And that's what everybody was chasing.

01:05:27.000 And a lot of guys weren't happy, like Richard Jenny was, like, notoriously not happy.

01:05:32.000 Because he never became that sort of Jim Carrey movie star guy.

01:05:36.000 Even though he was, for comics, he was one of the best comics alive. 0.96

01:05:40.000 He was so fucking good, man. 0.89

01:05:42.000 Why do you think that is? 0.98

01:05:43.000 I know you're a Big Jenny guy.

01:05:44.000 Like, what do you think that disconnect, why did it not happen that way?

01:05:48.000 You know, I think for a lot of comics, there's a lot of self-hate, right?

01:05:52.000 And so you're chasing love when you're doing stand-up.

01:05:54.000 You're chasing the love of the audience. 0.99

01:05:57.000 The way you get that love is to come up with the funniest shit. 0.99

01:05:59.000 And some guys develop funny shit just because they're funny, and some guys develop funny shit because they just really want that love, and that's the best way to get to it. 0.98

01:06:09.000 And you know, guys are like a combination of those things. 0.98

01:06:13.000 Different people that do the art are doing it for different reasons.

01:06:16.000 Like I know women that do it that came from a great family. 1.00

01:06:19.000 And then I have some of my funniest friends who also came from fucked up families when I talked to them about it. 1.00

01:06:24.000 And I think for a girl it's probably even harder. 0.92

01:06:27.000 Because it's not a situation where if you're in front of a bunch of guys, like it's not a situation where you get treated equally the moment you get on stage.

01:06:34.000 They don't just go, boy, can't wait to see this really funny chick. 1.00

01:06:38.000 They go, oh, I hope she's funny.

01:06:40.000 Right?

01:06:41.000 Yeah.

01:06:41.000 There's a prejudice that men have towards women controlling the microphone and then also talking about certain things like women who have opinions on politics.

01:06:51.000 A lot of guys, they don't want to hear that.

01:06:55.000 It's a weird thing.

01:06:56.000 I think there's several steps if a girl does stand up. 1.00

01:07:00.000 Yeah.

01:07:01.000 Don't you think?

01:07:01.000 Yeah.

01:07:02.000 Also, though, I think that happens just with any comedian who takes the stage and is not known.

01:07:08.000 You're starting from zero or a deficit.

01:07:11.000 For sure.

01:07:11.000 There is this, like, this guy thinks he's funny?

01:07:14.000 You gotta prove yourself funny.

01:07:16.000 You're unfunny until proven funny.

01:07:17.000 For sure, but don't you think there is a prejudice that women aren't as funny?

01:07:21.000 That exists in the world, yes.

01:07:23.000 So they go up, for the most part, with at least skepticism from some audience members.

01:07:30.000 Yeah.

01:07:32.000 Which is too bad.

01:07:33.000 You know, because it doesn't go across sex lines.

01:07:38.000 It just doesn't.

01:07:39.000 Some of the best comics that we know are women. 1.00

01:07:42.000 I saw Whitney's set.

01:07:44.000 Whitney has a new set that she's about to film. 0.98

01:07:46.000 Dude, it's fucking brilliant. 0.99

01:07:48.000 It's fucking great. 0.99

01:07:49.000 You saw her when she came through town? 0.99

01:07:50.000 Saw her at the Paramount.

01:07:51.000 It was really funny.

01:07:52.000 When was that?

01:07:54.000 A month ago?

01:07:55.000 Okay.

01:07:55.000 Somewhere around there?

01:07:55.000 Yeah, she's about to shoot.

01:07:56.000 I wonder if she's... 0.87

01:07:57.000 She's hot right now. 1.00

01:07:58.000 Dude, she's... 1.00

01:07:58.000 Her material is smooth. 1.00

01:08:00.000 She's in a groove right now.

01:08:02.000 It's like she's so comfortable on stage.

01:08:05.000 It's really fun.

01:08:06.000 But she's a perfect example.

01:08:07.000 Like, she doesn't play up her looks at all. 0.84

01:08:09.000 You know, like Whitney downplays it if anything.

01:08:12.000 She's always got, like, pink hair. 1.00

01:08:13.000 She's all fucked up. 0.99

01:08:14.000 She's wearing a jean jacket like Elvis. 1.00

01:08:16.000 Also kind of an inspiring person where you look at someone who just doesn't do stand-up, like is a grinder, has always been, like sells the show, is always moving, always doing things.

01:08:25.000 She grinds so hard, dude. 1.00

01:08:27.000 She's one of the people I'll have a conversation with her.

01:08:29.000 She goes, I'm about to make a documentary on violence. 0.99

01:08:31.000 I go, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99

01:08:33.000 Where do you have the time for this? 1.00

01:08:34.000 And so she was telling me, I didn't even know about this, there's some crazy fucking sport they do in England. 0.97

01:08:40.000 I think they do it once a year or something like that. 0.97

01:08:43.000 Was it England or Italy?

01:08:45.000 Oh, is it like rugby, but it's almost like...

01:08:47.000 But they fight!

01:08:47.000 Yes!

01:08:48.000 They fight, but they have a ball.

01:08:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:50.000 But they beat the fuck out of each other. 0.94

01:08:51.000 Want some more of this? 0.93

01:08:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:08:52.000 Kind of a lighter, too.

01:08:54.000 Yeah.

01:08:55.000 What is that?

01:08:55.000 Do you remember what we're talking about, Jamie?

01:08:58.000 There was a thing, I wish I could get a hold of her right now. 0.52

01:09:00.000 He wanted to do like a bachelor party and go to Italy to watch this.

01:09:05.000 But I wasn't able to...

01:09:06.000 Yeah, so it's Florentine football they're calling.

01:09:09.000 Oh my god, like dude, it's full-on fights with a ball.

01:09:14.000 It's like the craziest version.

01:09:19.000 Of a soccer or a football type game.

01:09:23.000 You're allowed to hold on to it.

01:09:24.000 So is it rugby?

01:09:25.000 And then they have MMA matches in the middle of it.

01:09:27.000 They're teeing off on each other.

01:09:29.000 Look! 1.00

01:09:29.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:09:29.000 They're fucking choking each other. 1.00

01:09:31.000 Oh my god, he's grabbing the guy's nose. 1.00

01:09:33.000 Gouging his eyeballs out.

01:09:34.000 He's gouging his nose! 1.00

01:09:35.000 Did you see that shit? 1.00

01:09:37.000 I mean, it's basically simulated war with a ball, but no weapons. 1.00

01:09:42.000 This is crazy. 0.98

01:09:43.000 There's just a bunch of dudes squaring off in the middle of this fucking sand dirt, and one guy gets tackled from behind by another guy. 0.98

01:09:51.000 My question is, where's the ball? 0.99

01:09:52.000 This is what's so crazy.

01:09:54.000 It's like, it's team fighting. 0.99

01:09:56.000 And you just look for a guy who's wearing red pants, and they look for a guy who's wearing white pants, and they fuck each other up. 0.98

01:10:02.000 Would you play that? 0.99

01:10:03.000 No!

01:10:04.000 You have to be a reckless person to play that.

01:10:07.000 You're getting hit from behind by someone on the other team.

01:10:10.000 That is crazy. 1.00

01:10:11.000 Like, these are the most psycho fucking human beings alive. 1.00

01:10:15.000 Look, they're beating the shit out of each other with no pads in the dirt. 1.00

01:10:19.000 So you're gonna get sand in your eyes. 0.90

01:10:21.000 Do you think that's like Christmas time for doctors? 0.96

01:10:23.000 I didn't see a fucking referee anywhere in sight, so no one's stopping anything, right? 0.98

01:10:28.000 I guess that's a referee. 0.99

01:10:29.000 Is that a referee?

01:10:30.000 But you're not seeing anybody break these fights up.

01:10:32.000 So what do they do?

01:10:33.000 How do they dictate whether or not a fight is over?

01:10:35.000 Do you let a guy just keep beating the fuck out of a guy, or does someone come along and stop it? 0.59

01:10:40.000 Because it seems to me like there's people just sitting on people, punching them in the face, and there's nobody watching it. 0.96

01:10:44.000 It almost seems like the ball is secondary.

01:10:45.000 If you go to a UFC fight, Herb Dean is hovering over the action.

01:10:50.000 When dudes are getting wailed on, he's ready to jump in. 0.99

01:10:53.000 Mark Goddard has his fucking eyes on the action, ready to pull the trigger at any moment. 0.99

01:10:59.000 There's no apparent goal either. 0.99

01:11:01.000 They're just throwing the ball against the fence when they get to the other side like chess, like king me.

01:11:05.000 This is crazy!

01:11:07.000 This is crazy. 0.99

01:11:08.000 This is just an excuse to beat the fuck out of each other. 0.83

01:11:11.000 But these people, I mean, they're getting really hurt.

01:11:14.000 If you're having gang MMA fights like that, you're gonna get really hurt.

01:11:20.000 Because people can hit you while you're getting hit from one side and the other side at the same time. 0.88

01:11:24.000 The odds of you getting really hurt are pretty fucking high. 0.79

01:11:29.000 So how do you play Calcio Florentino? 0.97

01:11:33.000 The teams change sides with every cacha or goal scored.

01:11:39.000 It is important to shoot with precision because every time a player throws or kicks a ball above the net, the opposing team is awarded with a half cacha.

01:11:48.000 The game ends after 50 minutes and the team which scored the most cacha wins.

01:11:53.000 So it comes from Florentine?

01:11:57.000 It seems like that's the only place that is.

01:12:00.000 You know, it's also a place famous for eating meat.

01:12:03.000 Oh, yeah?

01:12:03.000 Yeah.

01:12:04.000 You're a fan of that?

01:12:05.000 Steak Florentine.

01:12:06.000 There's a style of cooking in Florentine.

01:12:12.000 It's like caveman style.

01:12:13.000 Their style of cooking meat is just meat over fire.

01:12:18.000 It's like they have meat over fire down to an art.

01:12:22.000 Yeah, Bistecca di Florentine.

01:12:25.000 Just Google that and you get all these Italian videos of guys showing you how to cook a steak.

01:12:30.000 Have you done it?

01:12:31.000 Over hardwood. 1.00

01:12:32.000 Fuck yeah, I've done it. 1.00

01:12:33.000 Yeah? 1.00

01:12:33.000 Yeah, that's how I cook them. 1.00

01:12:34.000 You don't do the grill?

01:12:36.000 I do the grill sometimes.

01:12:37.000 Sometimes I cook it in a Traeger.

01:12:39.000 I got a pellet grill and what I do is it's called a reverse sear.

01:12:42.000 So I'll put it in that, and I'll get it up to like 115 degrees internal temperature, and then I pull it, and then I have a cast iron skillet.

01:12:50.000 And then I take the cast iron skillet, I get it really hot, and then I sear it on the outside.

01:12:54.000 I usually do like a minute and a half, maybe, each side.

01:12:58.000 So you'll finish it on the cast iron?

01:13:00.000 Yes, and then I let it rest.

01:13:01.000 But the point is like, that's when I'm pressed for time.

01:13:05.000 But if I'm not pressed for time, I cook over wood.

01:13:08.000 So I get dried oak, and I start like a little tiny fire, and I get the oak set up, and I get it cracked, and I get it turned into coals, and then I put a couple of fresh pieces on it to keep it smoky and fresh, and then I slide that steak over the top.

01:13:23.000 I got one of them Argentine grills, crankity crankity crankity crank.

01:13:26.000 So what does the crank do?

01:13:27.000 The crank makes it higher or lower.

01:13:28.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:28.000 So I can have the steak way above the fire, and I have a little probe in it, And so I have a probe that tells me the outside temperature, and it tells me the temperature of the meat.

01:13:36.000 And I can see it on my phone, this thing called Meter.

01:13:39.000 Oh, that's cool.

01:13:39.000 And I look at that.

01:13:40.000 So I'm watching it cook slowly over these hardwood logs.

01:13:45.000 And then at the end, I sear it.

01:13:47.000 When you cook like that, and you eat it, it has this insane flavor of smoke.

01:13:53.000 You get this real, fresh, smoky flavor in the meat.

01:13:57.000 It's fantastic.

01:13:58.000 And there's a thing, I think, in your brain There's some weird, like, trigger that goes off when you have meat that's cooking over fire.

01:14:10.000 I think it's, like, programmed into us.

01:14:13.000 From all the years when people would have successful hunts and they would cook meat over fire, they would feel good.

01:14:19.000 Like, everyone's going to eat.

01:14:20.000 We're going to survive another day because we were successful.

01:14:22.000 Because it's hard to be successful.

01:14:24.000 That's like the feeling you get when you catch a fish, right?

01:14:27.000 Even if you're going to release the fish, there's a feeling, like, I got one!

01:14:32.000 Like there's something about that that I think is primally connected to the idea that back in the day when it was hard to get food if you caught that fish you were fucking very excited because you're gonna live yeah you're gonna live so like when you watch like bass angler sportsman society a bunch of guys in these tournaments and they're like look at it and they're holding up by the lips and everybody's cheering they're basically playing a game you know where they're not even they're releasing the fish yeah They're just fucking with them. 0.75

01:14:57.000 And, you know, holding them up and showing everybody, I caught these motherfuckers. 1.00

01:15:00.000 I could eat these. 1.00

01:15:00.000 Look at these dummies. 1.00

01:15:01.000 I could if I wanted. 0.98

01:15:02.000 If I wanted to, they're eating.

01:15:04.000 But I'm going to let them go because it's fun.

01:15:06.000 It's sporting.

01:15:07.000 Like, what a weird place to be to be a bass.

01:15:09.000 Yeah.

01:15:10.000 You know?

01:15:11.000 Like, you just, you're hunted down, but you're not?

01:15:13.000 Like, do you complain?

01:15:14.000 Oh, thank God.

01:15:14.000 Once I get splashed, oh, thank God.

01:15:16.000 Right, if you're a trout, it's the same thing.

01:15:18.000 Like a lot of trouts, they get released. 1.00

01:15:20.000 They use barbless hooks.

01:15:22.000 So they know they're gonna release them before they ever catch them.

01:15:25.000 They don't eat them.

01:15:25.000 Like a lot of these fly fishermen guys, they just release them.

01:15:28.000 So how do you season the steaks?

01:15:30.000 What's your perfect steak?

01:15:30.000 What do you do?

01:15:31.000 Salt.

01:15:32.000 That's it.

01:15:32.000 No pepper?

01:15:33.000 No pepper.

01:15:33.000 Straight up salt?

01:15:34.000 Just salt.

01:15:35.000 That's all I do now.

01:15:36.000 Like kosher salt?

01:15:37.000 Yeah, kosher salt's probably the best because it's nice and coarse.

01:15:41.000 But I also got this stuff recently.

01:15:43.000 I think it's called OG Steak Seasoning from one of those Texas...

01:15:50.000 I think it's called Pit Master or something like that.

01:15:52.000 I think that's the name of the company.

01:15:53.000 And it's a great blend of garlic salt, a little bit of pepper, a little bit of regular salt or garlic powder.

01:16:02.000 Yeah.

01:16:03.000 No, that's not it.

01:16:04.000 It's just called OG. My problem, I was trying to do cast iron skillet, the steak, and then I would season it with salt and pepper and everything, you know, the coarse grain.

01:16:14.000 But then it would always come off on the pan.

01:16:17.000 Yeah, some of it's going to come off on the pan.

01:16:19.000 But too much.

01:16:20.000 Well, then you could add salt to the end if you want more salt.

01:16:23.000 But don't you want it to kind of like...

01:16:25.000 I thought that it would just sort of grill on it and crust and be fine when I... No, you're going to get some of it to come off in the pan, but it can't be precious.

01:16:33.000 It can't be precious.

01:16:34.000 Just salt bay it after and it'll be good?

01:16:35.000 Yeah, if you want to salt bay it.

01:16:36.000 But I do sprinkle a little...

01:16:38.000 I think it's from Bali.

01:16:42.000 Somebody gave me some salt.

01:16:44.000 It's a really interesting salt.

01:16:47.000 Salts have different flavors to them, which is weird.

01:16:50.000 There's a company out of San Francisco.

01:16:52.000 I think it might be even called the San Francisco Salt Company.

01:16:55.000 But they have different salts.

01:16:58.000 They have salts with like different herbs in them and, you know, like truffles.

01:17:03.000 They have salt with truffles in it, which is delicious.

01:17:05.000 You know, you ever have salt with truffles in it?

01:17:07.000 I've never had a truffle salt.

01:17:08.000 I've had like truffle mac and everything.

01:17:09.000 It's just an interesting flavor.

01:17:11.000 I love truffles.

01:17:12.000 But you add them to stuff, like steak with the salt, it's nice.

01:17:17.000 But I don't like to do too much with meat, especially like a beef steak.

01:17:23.000 If I use elk, one of the things I love with elk, there's this thing called blackened Saskatchewan rub that Traeger makes.

01:17:34.000 I think that's what it's called.

01:17:36.000 It's something blackened Saskatchewan, but it's like... 0.92

01:17:39.000 I need to know what all the ingredients are because I just know it tastes great.

01:17:44.000 It's definitely got some salt in it and it looks like it has some pepper in it too, but it's like a blackened crust.

01:17:48.000 And for elk, I found nothing better.

01:17:50.000 It's the best.

01:17:51.000 So I just season it on the outside with that, and then I cook it to a little...

01:17:56.000 I like to cook that to like 100 degrees.

01:17:58.000 I don't bring that to like 110. I get it to like 100 degrees so that when I sear it, it doesn't overcook.

01:18:04.000 You can't overcook wild game because it doesn't have any fat in it.

01:18:08.000 It's very lean.

01:18:10.000 So you have to make sure you nail the temperature.

01:18:12.000 It's really important.

01:18:13.000 Some people do too much with meat and steak.

01:18:17.000 They'll come up with the sauce and everything.

01:18:19.000 I just want to taste the meat.

01:18:20.000 I don't want to taste the peppercorn.

01:18:22.000 It ruins it to me.

01:18:24.000 Well, it's definitely a different thing.

01:18:26.000 It doesn't ruin it because it's still delicious in my mind, but it's a different thing.

01:18:30.000 It's like you can have just a piece of meat with salt on it, which is one thing, or you can have chimichurri sauce, which is another thing.

01:18:37.000 You know, it's awesome. 0.96

01:18:39.000 Chimichurri sauce on a piece of meat is fucking delicious. 0.94

01:18:41.000 I feel like the chimichurri is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there and the flavor profile. 0.99

01:18:45.000 I don't know, man. 0.99

01:18:46.000 I think it's a fucking group effort. 0.99

01:18:48.000 I really do. 0.99

01:18:49.000 But it's a different thing. 0.99

01:18:51.000 Like A1 steak sauce is fucking good. 0.99

01:18:53.000 It hasn't been around that long because it sucks. 1.00

01:18:56.000 A1 steak sauce is fucking good. 0.99

01:18:58.000 A1 steak sauce, you can take a Waffle House steak and just squirt some of that on it and it's pretty damn edible. 0.99

01:19:03.000 It'll make anything delicious.

01:19:04.000 I'm sure it's filled with sugar.

01:19:05.000 We're not arguing about nutrition.

01:19:07.000 You ever have HP? What's HP steak sauce?

01:19:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:11.000 I think so.

01:19:11.000 It's sort of like A1 adjacent.

01:19:13.000 I would have that in Canada.

01:19:14.000 For some reason, they love HP out there.

01:19:16.000 I probably have had it.

01:19:17.000 I probably have.

01:19:19.000 But, I mean, that's a different thing, right?

01:19:20.000 If you're eating it with a steak sauce.

01:19:22.000 What's your favorite steak place in Austin?

01:19:26.000 Oh, Austin's a good spot.

01:19:29.000 We eat at Eddie V's a lot.

01:19:30.000 We were there the other day. 1.00

01:19:31.000 Yeah, Eddie V's is the shit because it's like real old school. 0.99

01:19:35.000 I hit up Tony. 1.00

01:19:36.000 You go in there, it's like a classic steakhouse.

01:19:38.000 I love that place.

01:19:39.000 I was wearing a t-shirt. 1.00

01:19:40.000 I'm like, oh, fuck. 1.00

01:19:41.000 I'm the schlub at this place. 1.00

01:19:42.000 I didn't know how fancy it was.

01:19:44.000 Well, it's not necessarily fancy.

01:19:46.000 Like, you can most certainly go there in a t-shirt. 0.99

01:19:47.000 I know, but I don't want to be the only guy in a t-shirt at the fucking steak place. 0.99

01:19:51.000 It doesn't matter. 0.99

01:19:51.000 Luckily, I saw another guy with a t-shirt. 0.99

01:19:53.000 I was like, alright, cool.

01:19:53.000 Austin's pretty laid back with that.

01:19:55.000 Pretty fucking laid back with that. 0.98

01:19:57.000 They're not going to make me wear a loaner blazer? 0.99

01:19:59.000 Like, sir?

01:20:00.000 I would not go.

01:20:01.000 One time I did that, it was, I was graduating high school and my rich friend, he's like, hey, we're having dinner at the Columbia Tower in Seattle.

01:20:09.000 I'm like, oh, okay, cool.

01:20:10.000 So I thought I dressed nice.

01:20:11.000 I thought, it's nice for what I, you know, think.

01:20:14.000 I go up to the top floor of the Columbia Tower and they're like, Sir, you're going to have to wear this loner blazer.

01:20:21.000 And I'm like swimming in this.

01:20:23.000 I look like a 98 draft class.

01:20:27.000 I would go just for the loner blazer.

01:20:29.000 So I'm having to eat this.

01:20:30.000 It's so embarrassing.

01:20:31.000 It's like the blazer of shame.

01:20:32.000 I'm eating with all this rich family, and I'm just the guy with the hand-me-down blazer that I'm swimming in, eating this food that I never get on my own.

01:20:41.000 What a weird rule.

01:20:43.000 Like, who is this off-putting to?

01:20:45.000 Like, you're just shaming me.

01:20:47.000 You're just making everyone look over their shoulder.

01:20:49.000 This little boy doesn't know any better.

01:20:52.000 Like, give me a pass.

01:20:53.000 If I was a 35-year-old man, give me the loner blazer, and I deserve to be shamed.

01:20:58.000 But I'm 18 at the time.

01:21:00.000 Like, I don't need this.

01:21:02.000 Why didn't your friends tell you?

01:21:04.000 What a setup.

01:21:04.000 I guess.

01:21:05.000 How do they not know?

01:21:06.000 When you're 18, you're not like, hey, wear a blazer.

01:21:08.000 This place is fancy.

01:21:10.000 But how do your friends not know that you have to wear a blazer?

01:21:12.000 Do they not know either?

01:21:13.000 Or do they just magically have blazers on?

01:21:15.000 I guess they magically have.

01:21:16.000 Maybe they're so fancy, they always... 1.00

01:21:17.000 They're fucking with you. 0.99

01:21:18.000 It's like, let's make Fahim feel bad. 1.00

01:21:20.000 Like, do you have one my size?

01:21:22.000 No, we don't.

01:21:23.000 We just have the shame blazer.

01:21:24.000 The shame blazer.

01:21:26.000 We have one size fits all.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna have big people and little people, just get a giant one. 1.00

01:21:31.000 Fuck those little people with no blazers. 1.00

01:21:34.000 Yeah, well, I made everyone there happy, I guess, by having the blazer on. 1.00

01:21:37.000 So hilariously stupid. 0.99

01:21:40.000 What's interesting is you could be at that same restaurant and there's no rules for women in that way. 1.00

01:21:45.000 Like a woman could have a sleeveless shirt on. 1.00

01:21:48.000 That's a good point.

01:21:48.000 And a woman could have a skirt on where you could see her legs.

01:21:52.000 And as long as she looks good, it's totally cool.

01:21:55.000 Like the standards for a woman's dress. 0.99

01:21:58.000 Is there a loner female equivalent of the blazer? 1.00

01:22:01.000 No, no equivalent.

01:22:02.000 I'm sure there are places that don't want women to expose their shoulders. 1.00

01:22:05.000 Uh-huh.

01:22:06.000 Like, they don't want sleeveless shirts.

01:22:08.000 I'm sure there must be, like, some elegant gatherings where they're trying to discourage hoes from shining up. 1.00

01:22:13.000 Well, some places will do the hat thing. 1.00

01:22:15.000 Like, I've been to a steak place, and they're like...

01:22:17.000 You can't have a hat on.

01:22:18.000 Take your hat off.

01:22:18.000 Yeah, I've had that before.

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 Do you think they do that to Jay-Z, though?

01:22:23.000 I don't know, man.

01:22:24.000 They do it to me.

01:22:25.000 Really?

01:22:26.000 They do it to you?

01:22:27.000 Yeah, but I want to.

01:22:29.000 It's like the rules in place.

01:22:30.000 That's your rules.

01:22:32.000 You're establishing it.

01:22:33.000 It's like, I'm like, man, why can't I keep my hat on?

01:22:36.000 I'm like, sure, no problem.

01:22:38.000 You're good that way.

01:22:39.000 You should respect the business.

01:22:42.000 They're trying to create an atmosphere of civility.

01:22:45.000 They feel like if they discourage some kind of attire, You know, maybe they'll discourage a casualness that would lead to, like, more incivility.

01:22:56.000 I mean, that's just the thought process, but you want to have a nice place, you want it to look good, you want people to dress nice, I get it.

01:23:02.000 I think part of it is the mental escapism where everyone is dressed nice.

01:23:06.000 It's almost a throwback to Mad Men, like, You know what I mean?

01:23:09.000 It's a nice diner, and when there's a guy with a tap-out hat and a white beater, maybe it ruins the anniversary dinner. 0.97

01:23:16.000 But what if it's a girl who looks like a porn star? 0.98

01:23:18.000 Then that's fine. 0.99

01:23:19.000 Everyone's on board for that.

01:23:20.000 Everyone's on board for her with a short skirt. 1.00

01:23:23.000 They go, here's a blazer.

01:23:24.000 Big old ta-tas, just presenting for the world. 1.00

01:23:28.000 Ta-ta! 0.99

01:23:28.000 Everyone is okay with that. 0.99

01:23:30.000 I mean, that's real.

01:23:34.000 We have gender rules when it comes to attire. 1.00

01:23:37.000 I wonder if a man can claim that he's a male, he identifies as a male, but he identifies as a male who dresses like a female.

01:23:48.000 Is that next?

01:23:50.000 What if it's hot out and you don't want to wear a blazer, but you do have to go to this place for lunch?

01:23:55.000 I think that is just a political minefield that they don't want to deal with.

01:23:59.000 Like, they would rather just, like...

01:24:01.000 If you showed up.

01:24:02.000 Like, me in a...

01:24:03.000 In a sundress.

01:24:04.000 That would be fine, I think.

01:24:05.000 With flip-flops on and just explain that you're a woman. 1.00

01:24:08.000 I wouldn't have to explain anything.

01:24:09.000 Like, no one would touch it just because they don't...

01:24:12.000 Yeah, it's just not worth that.

01:24:14.000 Especially if you were, like, super obviously in a dress.

01:24:17.000 It wasn't anything ambiguous about the gender of the clothing you're wearing.

01:24:21.000 It's not like a toga.

01:24:22.000 Yeah, if I was wearing a sundress and I tried to have dinner, they wouldn't make me wear a blazer.

01:24:27.000 Okay.

01:24:28.000 What about kilts?

01:24:30.000 That's a curveball, dude.

01:24:32.000 That's the curveball. 0.75

01:24:33.000 I think we need to try this and see what happens.

01:24:34.000 Kilts are the curveball.

01:24:35.000 What if you had a beautiful tie on, a nice dress shirt, and a kilt?

01:24:38.000 They would allow you. 0.99

01:24:39.000 But your balls are just hanging out. 1.00

01:24:41.000 Well, you don't know that. 0.99

01:24:42.000 But what if they are?

01:24:43.000 Don't go looking.

01:24:44.000 Don't be rude.

01:24:46.000 Respect my choice with whatever I want to wear for clothes.

01:24:49.000 You get offended and you go, why are you looking?

01:24:50.000 I'm just trying to have a fine steak here.

01:24:52.000 Don't the steak folks have odd shoes as well? 0.76

01:24:57.000 Odd shoes?

01:24:58.000 Yeah.

01:24:58.000 Don't they wear a specific kind of shoes when they wear kilts?

01:25:01.000 I think they have their socks.

01:25:02.000 They have those Let's Get Physical Olivia Newton-John socks.

01:25:07.000 Very specific socks.

01:25:09.000 Some kind of hiking boot.

01:25:10.000 Yeah.

01:25:13.000 Look at those. 0.99

01:25:13.000 I mean, that's a ridiculous outfit. 0.99

01:25:16.000 I mean, that is fancy. 0.99

01:25:16.000 Look at that. 0.99

01:25:17.000 I wonder why they did that.

01:25:18.000 I mean, I guess it's easier to run around in if you're going to fight with a sword or something like that. 1.00

01:25:24.000 Like, those people, the Scottish people, they're wild fucking people. 1.00

01:25:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:25:28.000 They probably developed a kilt because it'll let you move your legs easier than pants.

01:25:35.000 If you think about running and stuff, if you could move around in a kilt, you have no restrictions.

01:25:44.000 If you have shorts, they have to be made right.

01:25:47.000 If you ever wear shorts that bind and you can move funny and they're annoying, or pants.

01:25:51.000 If you wear pants, you can't even pick your knee up above your waist. 0.99

01:25:54.000 Everything's all bound up and shit. 0.99

01:25:56.000 They probably wore that for battle. 0.98

01:25:58.000 Yeah, a lot of mobility within the kilt. 0.99

01:26:00.000 Plus, they could heist it up and show you their cock. 1.00

01:26:03.000 Aye! 1.00

01:26:04.000 Look at me cock, matey! 1.00

01:26:07.000 All of a sudden, he became a pirate. 0.99

01:26:08.000 But you know what I mean?

01:26:09.000 Like, those are wild, warring people.

01:26:11.000 No wonder why they had kilts on.

01:26:13.000 Would you wear one? 1.00

01:26:13.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

01:26:15.000 Yeah, I'm down for a kilt. 1.00

01:26:17.000 There was a dude named Melvin Manhoof.

01:26:19.000 He was like one of the most terrifying strikers that ever fought in Pride.

01:26:24.000 And Melvin Manhoof would fight in like his shorts.

01:26:30.000 He was like a wicked kickboxer out of Holland. 1.00

01:26:33.000 Wicked! 1.00

01:26:34.000 And built like a fucking brick shithouse. 1.00

01:26:37.000 But his thing was like... 1.00

01:26:40.000 He didn't have shorts on.

01:26:42.000 He almost had a skirt on.

01:26:44.000 Everything had all these openings in it.

01:26:48.000 I don't know what you would call it.

01:26:48.000 There is a word for it, the way they did it, but almost like where gladiators would wear almost like a skirt.

01:26:54.000 That's what he would fight in.

01:26:55.000 Like Russell Crowe in Gladiator, kind of that thing?

01:26:58.000 That's Melvin Manhoof.

01:26:59.000 So you still see those things?

01:27:00.000 It's like he kind of has underwear on, or he kind of has shorts on, but not really.

01:27:05.000 If you find a video of him fighting, It's like it's all swing and loose.

01:27:10.000 And because of that, his shorts never bound up.

01:27:14.000 Sometimes when you see Thai guys fight, they actually touch... 1.00

01:27:18.000 Oh, that's him wearing shorts.

01:27:19.000 That's an MMA fight because he had to wear it for the MMA. Google K1. Melvin Manhoff.

01:27:26.000 So there he's got...

01:27:27.000 That's when he's wearing it.

01:27:28.000 See it?

01:27:31.000 If you can see him when he's fighting.

01:27:32.000 Does anybody else wear that, or just him? 0.98

01:27:33.000 This dude is 185 pounds, by the way, and he knocked out Mark Hunt with one punch, which is fucking crazy. 0.96

01:27:39.000 Watch this. 0.98

01:27:39.000 Boom! 0.98

01:27:40.000 I mean, Mark Hunt, but you see those shorts?

01:27:42.000 Yeah.

01:27:42.000 Wild shorts.

01:27:43.000 Mark Hunt was one of the most durable heavyweights of all time, and Melvin Manhoff is, like, easily 60 pounds lighter than him, and he knocked him out with one punch.

01:27:53.000 He was a monster, but he wore these, like, it was like a skirt.

01:27:57.000 So they have that kind of weight disparity? 1.00

01:28:00.000 Pride did some wild shit, man. 1.00

01:28:02.000 They did some wild shit. 1.00

01:28:03.000 They had freaks fights, like freak fights, where they had Nogueira, who was the Pride heavyweight champion, who was an immensely talented jiu-jitsu black belt. 0.99

01:28:15.000 He fought this guy, Bob Sapp, who was 375 pounds with abs.

01:28:21.000 I'm not kidding.

01:28:22.000 Like, if you've never seen Bob Sapp before, when you see him fight, you don't believe it's a real person.

01:28:27.000 You think it's a video game character, or this is CGI. I'm not kidding.

01:28:31.000 You need to see this.

01:28:33.000 Bob Sapp versus Noguera.

01:28:34.000 He's so big.

01:28:37.000 So big.

01:28:38.000 And he pile drives Nogueira within the first opening seconds of the fight.

01:28:42.000 Like a literal pile driver.

01:28:44.000 375 pound man driving another 240 pound man's head first into the ground.

01:28:50.000 Look at the size of Bob Sapp. 0.99

01:28:51.000 Yeah, dude, look at the fucking size of him. 0.99

01:28:53.000 So this is the beginning of the fight. 0.99

01:28:55.000 Watch this.

01:28:55.000 Pile driver.

01:28:57.000 Boom! 0.99

01:28:58.000 This is how the fight starts.

01:29:00.000 So Noguera literally gets his spine crushed in the very first seconds of the fight fighting a guy who's a legitimate 130 pounds heavier than him.

01:29:11.000 Look at the size of the guy!

01:29:13.000 And they had a lot of fights like this.

01:29:15.000 Like, Bob Sapp wasn't the most talented MMA fighter, but he was certainly one of the biggest.

01:29:22.000 Yeah, that's just brute strength right there.

01:29:24.000 Well, he had some talent.

01:29:25.000 He did some skill.

01:29:26.000 He worked out.

01:29:27.000 You couldn't survive if you just had brute strength.

01:29:30.000 He definitely trained in martial arts, and he trained with my friend Maurice Smith, who was the UFC heavyweight champion, and he won multiple championships in multiple different organizations.

01:29:42.000 Maurice was a legit striker, very, very talented, very talented fighter, and he trained him.

01:29:48.000 So he was training Bob Sapp when Bob Sapp was kickboxing, too.

01:29:52.000 But he was just a freak.

01:29:54.000 You were like, what am I seeing?

01:29:55.000 He was so big, dude.

01:29:57.000 He would start walking towards guys with his fists up, and you're like, how is that a real person?

01:30:02.000 Yeah.

01:30:03.000 So is that how Pride was?

01:30:05.000 Freak shows.

01:30:06.000 Yeah.

01:30:07.000 Yeah.

01:30:07.000 They had Hongman Choi fought Fedor Emelianenko.

01:30:10.000 Fedor Emelianenko is arguably the best heavyweight of all time.

01:30:14.000 There's a real good argument that he's the best heavyweight.

01:30:16.000 In my book, it's like there's a few guys in the running for the best heavyweight of all time.

01:30:21.000 One of them is Fabrizio Verdum.

01:30:22.000 He gets overlooked because he tapped almost everybody.

01:30:25.000 He tapped Noguera. 0.97

01:30:26.000 He tapped Cain Velasquez.

01:30:28.000 And he tapped Fedor.

01:30:29.000 He was the first guy to beat Fedor.

01:30:30.000 And Fedor went on this long run.

01:30:32.000 He caught him in a triangle and tapped him.

01:30:33.000 So in my mind, he's got to be in the argument for one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, too.

01:30:38.000 So you've got Fedor, him, and Cain Velasquez.

01:30:40.000 Those are the three guys that most people, when they look at the greatest heavyweights of all time, they look at those guys.

01:30:45.000 And then maybe Francis Ngannou, if he continues his title run one day, he'll be thought of that way as well.

01:30:50.000 But it's like...

01:30:51.000 And then, of course, Stipe Miocic, who's like the most accomplished heavyweight of all time.

01:30:55.000 So those, I guess, yeah, you have to say those four.

01:30:58.000 Those are the guys that everybody...

01:30:59.000 If there's an argument for who's the greatest heavyweight of all time, it's hard to say.

01:31:05.000 And you might have to go...

01:31:07.000 The thing is, it's like...

01:31:08.000 All of them are really good, but Fabrizio Verdum tapped all of them.

01:31:14.000 There's something about that.

01:31:16.000 He tapped all of them.

01:31:17.000 Except Stipe.

01:31:18.000 Stipe knocked him out.

01:31:20.000 So I was like, maybe Stipe's the GOAT. But either way, it's like, there's a number of guys, and Noguera's in that group.

01:31:28.000 Noguera in his prime is in that group. 0.92

01:31:30.000 And they were all over at Pride.

01:31:32.000 And they had crazy, crazy fights.

01:31:34.000 So Pride, it's not around anymore?

01:31:36.000 No.

01:31:36.000 The UFC bought Pride, and when the UFC purchased Pride, they basically just closed shop.

01:31:44.000 They were going to keep it running for a while, but I think it was so chaotic, and I think they decided to just absorb it into the company.

01:31:51.000 And they took a lot of the fighters.

01:31:52.000 The only guy they didn't take was Fedor.

01:31:54.000 Well, there was a few other guys, but Mark Hunt came over from Pride.

01:31:57.000 I think Mark Hunt, he wanted to fight in the UFC. They wanted to buy him out, and he said, no, I want to fight it out in the UFC. And then there was a few other guys that came over as well.

01:32:09.000 But it was, um, Krokop, of course.

01:32:12.000 But it was, you know, the end of an era, unfortunately.

01:32:15.000 For people who are fans of the sport, there was something about the Pride era that was a really unique time in MMA. Like, we'd have to watch it at 4 o'clock in the morning because it was airing in Japan.

01:32:24.000 Oh, yeah?

01:32:25.000 Yeah.

01:32:25.000 Oh, it was a Japanese company?

01:32:26.000 Yeah, it was a Japanese company.

01:32:27.000 So it was live on pay-per-view.

01:32:29.000 We'd have to watch it, you know, at 4 in the morning.

01:32:31.000 And then they would have fights and then they wouldn't...

01:32:35.000 They wouldn't show it on TV until like a week later or even more sometimes.

01:32:40.000 And so you'd have to stay away from the internet because everybody already had the results and they posted all the spoilers.

01:32:44.000 It was interesting. 0.99

01:32:45.000 It was like they were figuring it out, but the Japanese did some gangster shit. 1.00

01:32:49.000 They had freak show fights. 1.00

01:32:51.000 They had a lot of freak show fights.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, it's kind of like early days of...

01:32:54.000 Yeah.

01:32:54.000 I remember when I was a kid and MMA was coming up, it was just insanity.

01:32:58.000 It was like Street Fighter.

01:32:59.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 They have big giant guys fight small guys all the time.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, it's like BattleBots with humans.

01:33:06.000 Well, they just like the aspect of the freak show.

01:33:10.000 There's this woman, Gabby Garcia.

01:33:12.000 She's an enormous Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.

01:33:14.000 She's really big.

01:33:17.000 She's more than 200 pounds, maybe 230, maybe even 240. She's really big. 0.98

01:33:21.000 And they'll have her fight like a maid. 1.00

01:33:24.000 She's like...

01:33:25.000 It was kind of like, in its infancy, it was like, will karate beat sumo?

01:33:30.000 And that's what it was all about.

01:33:31.000 Like, will the art form of karate triumph?

01:33:35.000 They still kind of have that.

01:33:36.000 But they had like Aki Bono versus Hoist Gracie. 0.84

01:33:40.000 And Hoist Gracie is like 180, maybe 190. Aki Bono might be 400 pounds. 0.99

01:33:47.000 And I'm not kidding.

01:33:49.000 Jesus.

01:33:49.000 See if you can find that.

01:33:51.000 This is, like, the fact that this fight was a legal fight to take place.

01:33:56.000 Like, Nevada State Athletic Commission would not sanction a fight between someone who's a legit 210, 220 pounds heavier.

01:34:06.000 Oh, this is Bob Sapp versus Aki Bono.

01:34:10.000 See if you can find Aki Bono, because that's two giants.

01:34:13.000 See Aki Bono versus Hoist Gracie.

01:34:17.000 Spoiler alert, Hoyce Gracie wins. 0.99

01:34:19.000 That's what a bad motherfucker hizzy. 1.00

01:34:21.000 Yeah, there it is. 1.00

01:34:22.000 The top one.

01:34:23.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:34:25.000 So Hoist caught him in an arm bar.

01:34:26.000 Is this the beginning of it?

01:34:28.000 Is where it shows it from the beginning?

01:34:29.000 And he taps.

01:34:30.000 He taps at an arm bar.

01:34:31.000 But if you, you know, the thing about being a guy that big is like how much gas in the tank do you have?

01:34:39.000 Yeah, not a lot.

01:34:39.000 That guy's so overweight.

01:34:42.000 As much as he has skill and much as he's a sumo guy and, you know, he's probably been competing his whole life, like he's too big.

01:34:53.000 You're not going to be able to compete against a guy like Hoist Gracie. 0.90

01:34:57.000 Hoist Gracie can survive. 1.00

01:34:59.000 See, and he's also really comfortable fighting off of his back.

01:35:02.000 So he let the dude rush him.

01:35:04.000 It's funny, like, I always know how old I am when I watch, like, old Sonics, because I'm from Seattle.

01:35:09.000 Like, I'll watch Sean Kemp's Slam Dunk compilations, and they're all in, like, 360p.

01:35:13.000 You know, like, oh, okay.

01:35:14.000 Yeah, this is pretty blurry.

01:35:15.000 Yeah, that resolution really dates you.

01:35:17.000 Where I'm like, oh, all my highlights are in low def.

01:35:20.000 But look what Hoist did. 0.98

01:35:21.000 Like, right away, pulls clinch from the guard, and then he's standing up with the guy.

01:35:24.000 Now he's got the guy grappling.

01:35:25.000 And even as he throws a kick, he falls onto his back.

01:35:28.000 Like, he's allowing the guy to lay on top of him, and he's obviously strategized for what he would do when he's off of his back, and he's gonna isolate an arm.

01:35:36.000 So he's isolated Aki Bono's left arm, and he's pulling his foot across the face, and Aki Bono knows what he's doing, but he can't stop him. 0.96

01:35:44.000 And so he pulls it back down again, and now he gets his left leg over the top of his right foot, and he locks it in place, and he's got a fucking arm bar. 0.99

01:35:51.000 And this dude's fucked. 0.99

01:35:52.000 And he's fighting a guy 200 pounds lighter than him, but the guy knows better technique, and he taps. 0.99

01:35:58.000 Did you see that elbow, bad elbow fall?

01:36:02.000 Guy got slapped, slammed, and he landed on his elbow.

01:36:04.000 His elbow went the wrong way.

01:36:05.000 I don't want to see it.

01:36:06.000 I still haven't seen the Tom Segura.

01:36:10.000 I can't watch it like that.

01:36:11.000 Somebody showed me one today, a kid blowing his hand off with a firecracker, and he drinks a beer.

01:36:18.000 While he's holding his hand up, and his hand is destroyed, and he drinks a beer.

01:36:21.000 Don't show it.

01:36:23.000 Don't do it.

01:36:23.000 Don't do it to me.

01:36:25.000 Don't you do it, Jamie.

01:36:27.000 I saw it. 0.99

01:36:28.000 I didn't know what it was until I saw it, and then I was like, God damn it, I don't want to see that. 0.98

01:36:32.000 Bobby will do that. 0.95

01:36:33.000 He has a stomach for that, and he's like, I can't.

01:36:36.000 I can't look at this.

01:36:37.000 Yeah, the dude literally blew his hand off.

01:36:40.000 Which happens, you know? 1.00

01:36:42.000 You got fucking... 0.99

01:36:44.000 It was good seeing you at the store when you came back. 1.00

01:36:46.000 It was fun.

01:36:46.000 Yeah?

01:36:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:47.000 Is that going to be a recurring thing?

01:36:49.000 Probably.

01:36:49.000 Yeah?

01:36:50.000 Yeah.

01:36:51.000 When I feel like it.

01:36:52.000 Yeah?

01:36:53.000 Yeah, it's fun.

01:36:54.000 It was...

01:36:54.000 It was fun.

01:36:55.000 Because I got past when you weren't there.

01:36:58.000 I think you were doing the Ice House and stuff.

01:37:00.000 Yeah.

01:37:01.000 And there was definitely...

01:37:03.000 It was this golden era before COVID. It's crazy.

01:37:05.000 You didn't really realize...

01:37:07.000 There's this quote, like...

01:37:10.000 Like when you were with your neighborhood kid and stuff playing baseball.

01:37:13.000 You never notice the last day that you're all playing.

01:37:16.000 Right.

01:37:16.000 Before everyone moves away or whatever.

01:37:18.000 And it felt that way with the store.

01:37:21.000 Yeah, we had a cool thing going on for a while.

01:37:23.000 Yeah.

01:37:24.000 It was fun.

01:37:24.000 It's different.

01:37:25.000 It's still fun, but it's a different thing.

01:37:27.000 But it was just monster insanity lineups when you were there.

01:37:31.000 That helped too.

01:37:33.000 You know, the COVID thing opened up a lot of people's eyes about what they can just take away from you.

01:37:41.000 And taking away people's ability to make a choice as to whether or not you want to go out or not.

01:37:47.000 Five months into the pandemic, eight months into the pandemic, a year into the pandemic, where the rest of the country, there's all these spots that had opened up.

01:37:55.000 They made choices in LA that I don't think they should have made.

01:37:58.000 And I think in retrospect, most people would agree.

01:38:00.000 It's hard to be a Monday morning quarterback, right?

01:38:03.000 It's hard to look at it and go, I would have done it differently.

01:38:06.000 But everybody's going to do that anyway.

01:38:08.000 But when there was no data that showed that outdoor shows were a problem, and they still weren't allowing the Comedy Store to do outdoor shows...

01:38:19.000 Yeah, that was weird.

01:38:20.000 Oh, that was horrible.

01:38:21.000 Because I was doing outdoor shows, and for some reason the Comedy Store, they wouldn't allow them to do it.

01:38:26.000 Like, I would do it at these other bars.

01:38:29.000 They would do it in the parking lot and stuff, but the store wasn't allowed to.

01:38:31.000 There was a...

01:38:34.000 arbitrary nature to some of it where it was different some places than other places and it wasn't it was like there's a real problem when people have the ability to tell you what to do they like it they like doing it and it has to be factored in to anything that happens And when a bunch of people are saying,

01:38:53.000 why can't I make my own choices?

01:38:56.000 Or what if I've already had the disease and I have the antibodies?

01:38:59.000 Or what if, you know, I'm a very healthy young person and they're like, well, you could spread it to other people.

01:39:06.000 Well, shouldn't those people isolate?

01:39:07.000 Like, where's the logic in isolating everybody?

01:39:10.000 And does that even work?

01:39:11.000 Is there any real data about what happens when communicable diseases like respiratory viruses, which are highly contagious?

01:39:18.000 Is there ever a history of containing them?

01:39:21.000 Ever?

01:39:22.000 No.

01:39:23.000 The answer's no.

01:39:24.000 No.

01:39:24.000 All the virologists will tell you everyone's gonna get it.

01:39:26.000 Or you're gonna be exposed to it and you're, you know, you might be one of the rare few that has a very good natural immunity to it.

01:39:33.000 Very, very few people apparently just, they don't catch COVID for whatever reason.

01:39:38.000 That's kind of like with everything, right?

01:39:40.000 With every disease.

01:39:41.000 There's a very small percentage.

01:39:42.000 You can't count on being one of those people.

01:39:45.000 I've had it twice.

01:39:47.000 Same here.

01:39:47.000 Yeah, I've had it twice too.

01:39:48.000 So is it just a part of our lives now?

01:39:50.000 Yeah.

01:39:50.000 Everyone's going to get it every year?

01:39:52.000 I think they say it's endemic.

01:39:54.000 If we're lucky, it goes the way it's going with Omicron, which is...

01:39:59.000 Actually, why am I giving advice?

01:40:00.000 I'm not a virologist.

01:40:02.000 I'm laying it out like I know.

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 But what I've heard from people that do understand this stuff is that generally speaking, and this is only generally speaking, it doesn't have to go this way, viruses become more contagious but less virulent.

01:40:18.000 Because for the virus to survive, really, it wants to get as many hosts as possible, so it kills the host.

01:40:24.000 It kind of defeats the purpose and it stops its ability to spread, which is really wild.

01:40:28.000 Because if you really think what's going on...

01:40:32.000 Imagine if that was demons and there was weak demons and really, really powerful demons.

01:40:40.000 And the really powerful demons, they would come and they would snatch young people and they would take them.

01:40:46.000 And they would take them and they would take their souls and take them to hell. 0.89

01:40:50.000 It would be so terrifying. 0.87

01:40:51.000 But if the same exact amount of people get killed by a flu, you don't really weird out.

01:40:57.000 Like, it's terrible, but it's normal.

01:40:59.000 Now, if it's a novel virus, like coronavirus, then people get super anxious and afraid. 0.99

01:41:04.000 Or if it's heart disease, which kills fucking everybody. 0.98

01:41:09.000 There's so many people that are dying of that. 0.99

01:41:11.000 That doesn't even get discussed.

01:41:13.000 Imagine if obesity, imagine if sugar was a demon. 1.00

01:41:17.000 All those things were demons.

01:41:18.000 And they just, you know, some people are just better at not listening to the demons.

01:41:23.000 But they're always talking to you.

01:41:25.000 Twinkies are good.

01:41:27.000 Fahim, don't you want a Twinkie?

01:41:28.000 No, I don't want a Twinkie.

01:41:29.000 Come on, Fahim.

01:41:30.000 I want a healthy.

01:41:32.000 Or you pass by Krispy Kreme and the hot sign is on. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:41:36.000 The hot sign is on. 1.00

01:41:37.000 I gotta eat there.

01:41:37.000 The hot sign's on.

01:41:38.000 The hot sign's on.

01:41:39.000 They're hot right now.

01:41:40.000 You get a hot Krispy Kreme, one of them glaze babies.

01:41:44.000 I like seeing it float, you know?

01:41:46.000 Like floating the oil.

01:41:48.000 That's nice.

01:41:48.000 Nice.

01:41:49.000 I like the chocolate cream filled. 1.00

01:41:52.000 I don't like shit. 1.00

01:41:53.000 I don't like filling. 1.00

01:41:54.000 You don't have to like it.

01:41:55.000 Alright.

01:41:56.000 But that's your jam?

01:41:57.000 That's my jam.

01:41:58.000 The cream film on the inside and the chocolate on the outside was, oh, my favorite guilty pleasure.

01:42:03.000 But I remember one time we went to Maui and we stopped at Krispy Kreme and got like a, not even one time, I think we did it twice, stopped and got like a dozen donuts and we're pigging out in the car.

01:42:14.000 And then by the time we got to the hotel, which is only like 20 minutes away, we couldn't think.

01:42:18.000 We were so tired.

01:42:21.000 We just got crushed.

01:42:22.000 Look at that.

01:42:24.000 Oh, that's Jamie Vernon's Instagram page.

01:42:26.000 I made this post like five years ago.

01:42:27.000 Did you really?

01:42:28.000 When I did the same thing.

01:42:29.000 Was this a, you were watching them apply the glaze?

01:42:32.000 Is this what's happening?

01:42:33.000 I had a good meal and I walked by a Krispy Kreme.

01:42:35.000 The red light was on.

01:42:36.000 When I was living out here, I was right by a Krispy Kreme.

01:42:39.000 It was too close.

01:42:39.000 It's one of the best tasting things ever, right?

01:42:43.000 Can we agree on that?

01:42:44.000 Yeah.

01:42:44.000 Like a hot Krispy Kreme donut is undeniably good and worth a temporary coma.

01:42:51.000 Remember when it first came out, there were lines for two hours to have this Krispy Kreme donut?

01:42:56.000 We are really legitimately surrounded by things that are terrible for you, that are highly profitable.

01:43:02.000 Whether it's fast food or sugar or any gas station you walk into, it's filled with sugary drinks and sugary snacks. 1.00

01:43:10.000 And all that shit is terrible for you. 1.00

01:43:12.000 It's terrible for you. 1.00

01:43:13.000 When I was in middle school, they just had all these Mountain Dew machines, Coke machines.

01:43:17.000 Terrible.

01:43:17.000 I had a Mountain Dew when I was in Florida.

01:43:20.000 I said, fuck it, I'm gonna have a Mountain Dew. 0.99

01:43:21.000 Remember Mountain Dew? 1.00

01:43:22.000 They'd be like, I mean, the urban legend with all the kids would be like, yo, don't drink Mountain Dew.

01:43:26.000 It has yellow five in it. 0.96

01:43:28.000 It'll make your balls shrink. 0.98

01:43:30.000 And all of us just like believed it. 0.98

01:43:32.000 I don't know who you were hanging out with.

01:43:33.000 I never got that.

01:43:34.000 That was a thing. 0.96

01:43:34.000 Whoever is around my generation, there was this urban legend about yellow five that it would make your balls small. 0.96

01:43:41.000 Was it your whole generation or just your friends?

01:43:43.000 I mean, look, it's a very localized group that I'm in that I am sort of extrapolating and thinking that it's nation and worldwide.

01:43:50.000 But I know that when I was growing up, there was this thing like Mountain Dew, Yellow Five, but I don't.

01:43:55.000 I mean, it's all...

01:43:56.000 Well, that stuff is definitely not good for you.

01:43:59.000 That's the thing about, like, food colorings and, you know, natural flavorings and artificial flavorings.

01:44:05.000 It's like, what's safe for you and what's not safe for you.

01:44:07.000 Like, you gotta do your research on that, and it's very complicated.

01:44:11.000 Yeah, see?

01:44:12.000 See?

01:44:12.000 Oh, here it is.

01:44:13.000 Yellow 5. I'm not crazy.

01:44:14.000 Well, I didn't think you were crazy. 0.99

01:44:15.000 The urban myth states that this shrinks your testicles, not to be confused with Maroon 5. What the fuck? 1.00

01:44:23.000 Just because it has a five in it? 1.00

01:44:24.000 If you listen to Maroon 5, it'll make her balls small. 1.00

01:44:27.000 Oh, that's hilarious. 0.98

01:44:28.000 Samantha.

01:44:28.000 It's a color and a five.

01:44:30.000 Maroon's a color.

01:44:31.000 What's that?

01:44:31.000 Maroon's a color.

01:44:32.000 Oh, Maroon 5 is a color?

01:44:34.000 I'm just saying Maroon and Yellow, both colors.

01:44:37.000 What were your urban legends?

01:44:38.000 Right, but Maroon 5, they're talking about the band.

01:44:40.000 100%.

01:44:41.000 Right.

01:44:42.000 So what are you saying?

01:44:46.000 There was another one when I was growing up. 1.00

01:44:48.000 They would say Marilyn Manson removed his ribs so he could suck his own dick. 1.00

01:44:52.000 That's true. 1.00

01:44:53.000 It says here, Samantha, why are you drinking that Mountain Dew?

01:44:57.000 Don't you know it has Yellow 5 in it? 0.98

01:44:59.000 Andrew, do you honestly think they would sell a product that shrinks your testicles and not even put a warning label on it or even sell something like that at all? 0.98

01:45:07.000 Samantha, oh, I never thought of it that way. 0.98

01:45:10.000 What is that?

01:45:11.000 What am I reading?

01:45:12.000 No idea.

01:45:13.000 Is that like an example conversation about yellow five?

01:45:17.000 But for sure there's some stuff that they put in food that's not good for you, right?

01:45:22.000 There's certain preservatives and there's certain chemicals and different things that wind up in food.

01:45:26.000 Urban Dictionary with science here. 0.98

01:45:27.000 Not only shrinks testicles, it has been scientifically proven to reduce penis size as well. 1.00

01:45:32.000 Holy shit! 1.00

01:45:33.000 I don't know if this is accurate. 0.99

01:45:34.000 Click on that. 1.00

01:45:35.000 It's going to be that guy with the big dick leaning over the bed. 0.99

01:45:37.000 It's just the link to Scientifically Proven on Urban Dictionary. 1.00

01:45:40.000 No, if you click on that, it's the black guy with the giant hog leaning over the bed. 0.98

01:45:44.000 How many times have you gotten that? 0.95

01:45:45.000 Yo, that's like the new Rickroll, right?

01:45:47.000 Yes, it is.

01:45:48.000 Yeah, there's so many times.

01:45:50.000 Like, Ari has sent me a link, or Tom or Bert has sent me a link.

01:45:53.000 It's so believable every time. 0.99

01:45:55.000 And then it's the guy with the dick, and you go, you got me. 0.99

01:45:57.000 It's like, we send each other the links, we have a little chat in the Sober October Crew chat, and 50% of those links lead to that guy with a big dick leaning over the bed. 0.99

01:46:07.000 I heard he passed away, the actual guy, yeah. 0.97

01:46:10.000 But he's still bringing joy to the world.

01:46:12.000 But it's like, you know what he's talking about, like, being a shooting star?

01:46:15.000 That's a shooting star.

01:46:17.000 You know, that's like that Bad Company song.

01:46:19.000 Don't you know that you are a shooting star?

01:46:24.000 Don't you know...

01:46:27.000 Do you remember that song?

01:46:28.000 Who sings that?

01:46:29.000 See, you're like from this dance music generation.

01:46:33.000 Yeah.

01:46:33.000 My generation of old people before the internet, they had songs that had stories in them.

01:46:39.000 The song was a story.

01:46:41.000 The song was a story about Johnny.

01:46:43.000 Johnny was a schoolboy when he heard his first Beatles song.

01:46:47.000 Listen to this, son.

01:46:49.000 You gotta appreciate this kind of music.

01:46:52.000 It's Me, 1982. Yeah, paint the scene.

01:46:57.000 Newton Upper Falls, Massachusetts.

01:47:00.000 Don't quite have my driver's license, but man, I can't wait till I do.

01:47:03.000 When I do, I'm going to drive around, I'm going to look cool, and I'm going to listen to this song.

01:47:09.000 Used to play every night Now he's in a rock and roll outfit And everything's alright Don't you know Yeah.

01:47:22.000 No internet, baby.

01:47:24.000 Johnny said to his mama, hey mama, I'm going away.

01:47:29.000 I'm going to hit the big time, going to be a big star someday.

01:47:35.000 Mama came to the door with a teardrop in her eyes. 0.99

01:47:41.000 Johnny said, don't cry mama, smile and wave goodbye.

01:47:45.000 Don't you know?

01:47:51.000 I will say I do appreciate this music live because I'll see the dance stuff like a DJ it's like a guy in a cubicle yeah and everyone's going live but I can't appreciate it like a live singer and a band and this music is being created in the moment you gotta understand That this song represents a different time of limited information distribution in the world.

01:48:19.000 It's a different world.

01:48:21.000 We didn't know what a rock star was.

01:48:23.000 They didn't have reality shows.

01:48:26.000 We found out about who they were from their songs.

01:48:30.000 When we hear a song about a young guy, which we all wish we could be, the young guy who becomes a music superstar. 0.97

01:48:38.000 Every fucking kid in my neighborhood thought this song was about them. 0.97

01:48:42.000 Everybody wanted to be Johnny. 1.00

01:48:45.000 You know how many fucking people started bands because of this song? 0.93

01:48:52.000 There is a romance to that period of time where the entire world and consciousness was focused on one thing, where everything now is kind of segmented and fractured. 0.98

01:49:03.000 I was thinking about SNL. I have a buddy who's on SNL now.

01:49:07.000 Hold on, don't stop it.

01:49:09.000 Yeah, keep it going.

01:49:10.000 Because this is where it gets important.

01:49:13.000 This is where it gets important.

01:49:14.000 Because this is the tragedy and the romance to this song, is that he doesn't live long, Fahim.

01:49:21.000 It doesn't last, buddy.

01:49:25.000 You know why?

01:49:26.000 Because the good die young.

01:49:29.000 And James Dean, and Jimi Hendrix, and Janis Joplin, and Kurt Cobain, and Jim Morrison, all of them died young.

01:49:38.000 They never saw 28, son.

01:49:42.000 Don't you know?

01:49:44.000 And in this song, where it ties it up, Johnny died

01:50:14.000 one night.

01:50:16.000 Died in his bed.

01:50:30.000 See?

01:50:37.000 It's like you live on forever.

01:50:39.000 Everybody misses you. 1.00

01:50:42.000 Instead of you being a fucking loser. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Where people get annoyed when you come around. 1.00

01:50:49.000 Instead, you get to be remembered.

01:50:52.000 You die young and you get to be remembered forever.

01:50:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:50:55.000 It's a fucking Joseph Campbell book. 1.00

01:50:58.000 Sure. 1.00

01:50:59.000 I'd rather live longer, though. 1.00

01:51:01.000 Yeah, man, but, like, if you're hanging around the auto shop and you're 17 years old, this was the shit. 1.00

01:51:12.000 That's what I grew up with. 1.00

01:51:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:51:14.000 That's my kind of shit. 1.00

01:51:15.000 I'm trapped. 1.00

01:51:17.000 Like, musically, I'm trapped.

01:51:18.000 There is something beautiful about it, though.

01:51:19.000 I remember one time I saw Boyz II Men in Vegas, and there's all these older women there. 1.00

01:51:24.000 And it's a time machine.

01:51:26.000 Music is a time machine.

01:51:27.000 Because they are no longer 35-year-old women or 40-year-old women.

01:51:31.000 They are 13 again.

01:51:33.000 And it was beautiful just to see that.

01:51:35.000 Do you know how many horny women you would find that are over 50 at a Rick Springfield concert? 1.00

01:51:39.000 Probably so many.

01:51:40.000 Yeah.

01:51:41.000 Because all the trappings of being older, all that evaporates and you just think you are that age again.

01:51:48.000 Also, it's like what you really appreciated when you were growing up.

01:51:51.000 Music, unlike any other art form, has an instantaneous connection with the time in which you first heard it.

01:51:59.000 I remember, it's not even a song that I really like that much, but the Bob Seger song, Like a Rock.

01:52:06.000 I was in my car, and I was 18 years old when the song was out.

01:52:10.000 And I was like, oh my god, it's about me.

01:52:12.000 And I'm driving.

01:52:13.000 I remember the street.

01:52:14.000 It's not even my favorite song, but there's songs I remember when I heard it.

01:52:18.000 Yes.

01:52:18.000 There's something about it.

01:52:19.000 Sometimes I'll hear a song and I'll know exactly where I was.

01:52:23.000 Yeah.

01:52:24.000 Like what year.

01:52:26.000 Forever.

01:52:26.000 Yeah.

01:52:26.000 It just cuts through everything.

01:52:27.000 Have you seen those videos of like people with dementia or whatever and they play a certain song and it's like they're back.

01:52:33.000 Alzheimer's.

01:52:33.000 Yes.

01:52:34.000 Alzheimer's.

01:52:34.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 It's amazing.

01:52:35.000 I have seen that.

01:52:36.000 Yeah.

01:52:37.000 It is crazy.

01:52:38.000 It's like whatever it is.

01:52:39.000 It's just dementia too.

01:52:40.000 It just cuts through a certain part of the brain.

01:52:42.000 Yeah.

01:52:44.000 Yeah, it just like excites them again.

01:52:47.000 But how weird is it that you can remember things so well with music attached to it?

01:52:55.000 Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

01:52:55.000 It must cut through a certain type of part of your brain, because same with smells, you know?

01:52:59.000 Smells cut through all the pre-frontal stuff. 0.96

01:53:03.000 Right, but I mean, but the information that you're containing inside a song, like the fact that you can do that, You know, like you remember shit from when you were little kids where they would teach you about grammar.

01:53:15.000 You know, conjunction, junction, what's your function?

01:53:19.000 Hooking up words and phrases and clauses.

01:53:22.000 Like, it's amazing that you would never be able to repeat, like, someone's lines if they were reading that in a television show.

01:53:31.000 You would never be able to repeat it like that.

01:53:32.000 But because it's attached to music, it's like, it's stuck in your head.

01:53:36.000 All you have to do is kind of get the rhythm of it and then you can remember where the words go.

01:53:40.000 It's wild!

01:53:41.000 What a weird thing, that aspect of the way our brains work.

01:53:46.000 Like, that we connect information to sounds and songs, and then we do that really well.

01:53:52.000 And it's a great way to teach kids. 0.98

01:53:54.000 Fucking strange. 0.98

01:53:55.000 Do you know the quadratic formula? 0.99

01:53:57.000 No, what's that?

01:53:58.000 From algebra.

01:53:59.000 We all needed to know it for the rest of our lives.

01:54:01.000 That's why we had to memorize it.

01:54:02.000 I know Pythagorean is like A squared plus B squared equals C squared.

01:54:04.000 That's an easy one.

01:54:05.000 Pythagorean is a little more advanced.

01:54:07.000 Our math teacher taught us it in a song so we would never forget it. 1.00

01:54:10.000 I still know it because of that stupid song. 0.99

01:54:12.000 How's the song sing for us, Jamie? 1.00

01:54:13.000 The opposite of B plus or minus the square root of B squared minus 4AC all over 2A. I didn't add all the melody.

01:54:20.000 Nice! 0.94

01:54:20.000 That's a good song. 0.94

01:54:22.000 I don't know why you need it.

01:54:24.000 Someone should put that to a dance beat. 1.00

01:54:26.000 It was like Row Row Row Your Boat, honestly.

01:54:30.000 I have no idea why I still know it 25 years later.

01:54:35.000 There's a bunch of those things from those ABC after-school TV shows.

01:54:40.000 Yeah, just learning through song.

01:54:41.000 Yeah, you just remember, like, certain stuff.

01:54:45.000 Well, it's always tough whenever you do, like, a stand-up show, and there's music, too, because music wins every time.

01:54:51.000 No matter how good the comedy is, it's tough.

01:54:53.000 Yeah.

01:54:54.000 Oh, yeah, music and comedy don't go together good.

01:54:57.000 Yeah, music is a heart game and comedy is a brain game.

01:55:01.000 You know, like music, you don't even need to think. 1.00

01:55:03.000 It just hits your fucking soul. 1.00

01:55:05.000 The last thing you want to follow is someone who's a murderer with music. 1.00

01:55:09.000 Like music comedy with awesome jokes and a guitar.

01:55:13.000 Like, bro.

01:55:14.000 Yeah, it's tough.

01:55:15.000 Those are tough to follow.

01:55:16.000 Crowd work too.

01:55:17.000 Like whenever I follow Ingram at the store, it's like, what's my game plan here?

01:55:22.000 It's cool that he's touring with Chris Rock now.

01:55:24.000 Yeah.

01:55:25.000 Because, you know, we all love Rick Ingram and we've known him for years and he kills it at the store.

01:55:29.000 And you'd be like, oh, why is this guy bigger and stuff?

01:55:32.000 And it's cool that that is a special place where like Rock sees him one night and he goes, come on tour with me.

01:55:38.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 So he's doing all these like awesome shows with Chris Rock now, getting to do his thing.

01:55:43.000 But crowd work, like great crowd work, is magical to an audience.

01:55:48.000 Because it's here, it's now, it's present.

01:55:52.000 Whereas bits, I like jokes.

01:55:56.000 The best is when you can do both.

01:55:58.000 Because jokes you can bank.

01:56:00.000 Jokes are a commodity.

01:56:02.000 Like, okay, I have an act.

01:56:05.000 I can tour with this.

01:56:06.000 These are bulletproof no matter where I go.

01:56:08.000 But there is this kind of ethereal quality to crowd work. 0.99

01:56:11.000 Like, oh, fuck, you just thought of that right now. 0.99

01:56:13.000 And it sets the room on fire. 0.99

01:56:15.000 So when you come on after that, you kind of have to reprogram them into like a little bit of crowd work and then some jokes as well.

01:56:22.000 But it's hard for that.

01:56:23.000 Like the first five minutes is kind of getting them to your speed.

01:56:26.000 Yeah.

01:56:27.000 But that's always the case if someone has like a slow paced act and then going after someone who's loud.

01:56:32.000 Yeah.

01:56:33.000 There's always, I mean, that's one of the interesting things about places like the store is that you're forced to do that because there's 10 people on the lineup and everyone's doing 15 minutes.

01:56:41.000 And everyone's style is so different.

01:56:43.000 Yeah.

01:56:44.000 But for an audience member, it's a real treat because you get to see all kinds of different styles, all sorts of different approaches.

01:56:49.000 If you're a real comedy fan, how many people have decided to come see comedy and then decided to try to do it because they've gone to one of those sets and seen so many different kinds of comedy that you go, God, I must...

01:57:02.000 I love comedy.

01:57:03.000 Maybe I fit in there somewhere.

01:57:04.000 Kind of.

01:57:05.000 Yeah.

01:57:05.000 And just to sort of see how many different ways people can be funny.

01:57:08.000 Yeah.

01:57:09.000 I don't know.

01:57:10.000 Where did you first go up on stage?

01:57:11.000 What place?

01:57:13.000 The Comedy Underground in Seattle.

01:57:15.000 Oh, I heard about that place.

01:57:16.000 Did you ever play there?

01:57:17.000 I think I did once.

01:57:18.000 I think I did once.

01:57:19.000 Okay.

01:57:20.000 I think I did once.

01:57:21.000 But yeah, I'm pretty sure I did once.

01:57:24.000 But it's not there anymore, right?

01:57:25.000 No, not anymore.

01:57:26.000 They moved locations.

01:57:26.000 They were in Pioneer Square, and then they moved like two or three blocks away.

01:57:30.000 The best fucking place in Seattle was that place that was connected to a pool hall. 0.99

01:57:34.000 Oh, parlor. 0.99

01:57:34.000 Oh my god. 0.99

01:57:35.000 Well, you're biased.

01:57:35.000 You're like a big pool guy.

01:57:36.000 I know, but to me it was like a dream come true.

01:57:38.000 Yeah.

01:57:39.000 Like they had pool tables right next to the comedy club.

01:57:41.000 Like, oh my god.

01:57:43.000 That's like Ron White if they had a comedy club at a golf course.

01:57:45.000 That's hilarious.

01:57:46.000 Same thing.

01:57:46.000 Yeah, it's not there anymore.

01:57:48.000 Wow. 0.93

01:57:49.000 Too fucking bad. 1.00

01:57:51.000 That place was the shit. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Yeah, I cut my teeth there. 1.00

01:57:54.000 So, Comedy Underground and then Giggles by University of Washington.

01:57:58.000 Did Giggles, that guy got mad at me once because I think I said that I heard that you can't swear at his club because people were telling me that.

01:58:05.000 Not you though.

01:58:06.000 I think he would do that for like the guys coming up.

01:58:09.000 You weren't allowed to swear.

01:58:10.000 Which I don't mind.

01:58:12.000 You know, actually my first two or three years of stand-up, I put it on myself to not swear or drink later on too, because I didn't want to become a crutch.

01:58:22.000 I didn't want to have to drink before I go on stage.

01:58:24.000 Like, I'll do it now sometimes if it's like a second show.

01:58:27.000 Like, I'll have a drink before I go on stage.

01:58:29.000 But I don't use it.

01:58:31.000 I want to be able to be enough as me sober.

01:58:34.000 And it was nice having that foundation of, I don't need to swear to form a joke.

01:58:41.000 And then I swear now and stuff.

01:58:42.000 I allow myself to use all the words and paint with all the colors. 1.00

01:58:45.000 But I think it was good just to not rely on, like, fuck. 0.99

01:58:49.000 Like, out the gate, when you don't know the foundations of comedy yet. 0.99

01:58:52.000 Right.

01:58:52.000 And there's nothing worse than bad jokes with a lot of swears.

01:58:56.000 Yeah.

01:58:57.000 Like, bad jokes by themselves with no swears are not as offensive.

01:59:01.000 Yeah.

01:59:02.000 Swears are great as seasoning.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:59:05.000 Exactly.

01:59:05.000 It's like someone who serves you a salt sandwich.

01:59:08.000 Totally. 1.00

01:59:08.000 You fucked up, stupid. 1.00

01:59:09.000 There's too much salt in this thing. 1.00

01:59:12.000 But later on, sprinkle a little fuck. 1.00

01:59:14.000 Sprinkle a little, yeah, a little bitch. 1.00

01:59:15.000 A little bit of that. 1.00

01:59:16.000 Everybody's happy.

01:59:17.000 You know?

01:59:19.000 It's just...

01:59:20.000 I love the fact that everybody does it different, too.

01:59:23.000 Everybody has a different approach.

01:59:25.000 Different take on things.

01:59:27.000 Different, you know...

01:59:28.000 Different style.

01:59:29.000 I love...

01:59:30.000 Sitting in the back chair at the store, like in the OR. I'll watch Theo go on.

01:59:33.000 I'll love it.

01:59:34.000 He was there the other night.

01:59:35.000 And then Ian will go on after.

01:59:37.000 And talk about polar opposite guys.

01:59:39.000 But just as funny in different ways.

01:59:43.000 And it's inspiring.

01:59:45.000 Sometimes you have to remind yourself, like, I don't have to kill in the way that this person kills.

01:59:52.000 Like, know your instrument.

01:59:54.000 Like, just be the best you.

01:59:56.000 Be your version of funny.

01:59:58.000 Yeah.

01:59:59.000 Yeah.

02:00:00.000 Yeah.

02:00:02.000 Some people want to enforce their version of funny on you, which is really weird.

02:00:07.000 What do you mean?

02:00:07.000 Like, they got upset at some styles of comedy.

02:00:10.000 Like, that to me is one of the most misguided...

02:00:15.000 Approaches to like look into way other people do comedy.

02:00:18.000 Don't you know anybody that has that weird thing like oh he's doing that again.

02:00:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:00:23.000 He's doing this kind of stuff.

02:00:24.000 But if the crowd laughs that like that's the bottom line, you know as long as the person is being true to themselves and It's like We're all we're trying to do is be funny That's it.

02:00:36.000 The only thing that bothers me is when someone's derivative like openly derivative and I don't mind influenced.

02:00:42.000 Everyone's influenced.

02:00:43.000 Especially at the beginning.

02:00:45.000 Of course.

02:00:45.000 I remember literally being on stage recognizing that I was doing Richard Jennings patterns.

02:00:50.000 Like his pattern of speech and being embarrassed. 0.99

02:00:54.000 Oh my god, I suck. 0.99

02:00:55.000 Like how many years before you recognized that? 1.00

02:00:57.000 Oh, that was like a year in.

02:00:58.000 Uh-huh.

02:00:59.000 It was like really early on.

02:01:01.000 Because he was like one of the first guys that I ever saw that I was like super impressed with live.

02:01:05.000 Certain comics have, they spawn a bunch of other genres.

02:01:08.000 Oh yeah, Patrice, you'd call them babies.

02:01:11.000 Ah.

02:01:11.000 He's like, you know, you talk about all the different people who have babies out there.

02:01:15.000 David Tell has a lot of babies.

02:01:16.000 Yeah, Dane would have a lot of babies.

02:01:17.000 Dane had a lot of babies, yeah.

02:01:19.000 Mitch, Mitch Hedberg would have a lot of babies.

02:01:20.000 Oh yeah, Mitch had a lot of babies, yeah.

02:01:22.000 Mm-hmm.

02:01:22.000 Yeah.

02:01:23.000 Brody had a lot of babies.

02:01:24.000 Oh, really?

02:01:25.000 Yeah.

02:01:25.000 Actually, he had stepkids.

02:01:30.000 Brody had people that they didn't really do his act on stage, but they did his act offstage a lot for fun.

02:01:38.000 It flavored the way people would even playfully talk to each other.

02:01:42.000 They would talk to each other like Brody.

02:01:44.000 Negative energy.

02:01:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:01:45.000 Arms crossed.

02:01:47.000 Enjoy it.

02:01:48.000 Yeah.

02:01:49.000 We would do that.

02:01:50.000 So he definitely...

02:01:51.000 Attell, I think, of the current guys, he probably influenced the most guys out of New York.

02:01:56.000 Because if you watch Attell right now in particular, that's a guy that's probably the most underappreciated and underrated, even though I know the fans rate him very highly.

02:02:08.000 I'm talking about the general public.

02:02:10.000 Every comedy fan that knows Dave Attell rates him very, very highly.

02:02:14.000 He mightn't be the best comic alive, but criminally underappreciated, as far as the general public goes.

02:02:20.000 And if you see him, he's so good, and his jokes are so sharp, and you get into that Dave Attell rhythm, And that's all you want to hear.

02:02:29.000 And then guys start doing jokes like him.

02:02:33.000 You start doing that, he's got this way of talking.

02:02:36.000 And it's so addictive.

02:02:38.000 I've seen so many guys, and they're not bad guys, but you see a little bit of a tell in them because they're insecure.

02:02:46.000 And they don't know how to be funny, and they're trying to be funny, and so they try to do it like a tell.

02:02:51.000 You know, and they have that, like, very pronounced sort of accentuation of words.

02:02:56.000 I remember Insomniac was, like, big when I was growing up.

02:02:59.000 That was kind of his big Hollywood thing.

02:03:01.000 But then I didn't see much after that.

02:03:03.000 I know, wasn't he, like, an HBO young comedian special?

02:03:07.000 Is that partly, like, him?

02:03:08.000 Like, he just loves stand-up.

02:03:09.000 He'll go on last at the cellar.

02:03:11.000 He kind of just enjoys...

02:03:13.000 He does a lot of, like, late-night sets.

02:03:15.000 And he can revive an audience.

02:03:16.000 And he's not, like, a big energy guy either.

02:03:18.000 It's like he's just doing it all.

02:03:19.000 He's just a man.

02:03:20.000 Brilliant jokes.

02:03:21.000 But yeah, I think the first big success was definitely Insomniac.

02:03:26.000 And then through Insomniac, he developed a drinking problem.

02:03:30.000 And then through the drinking problem, he quit and then became the best comic alive.

02:03:35.000 It really happened all through that.

02:03:38.000 His quitting drinking, everybody agrees unanimously that his act sharpened up radically.

02:03:45.000 It got really, really, really good.

02:03:47.000 And I think it's just his mind is free.

02:03:50.000 It's amazing.

02:03:50.000 Yeah.

02:03:50.000 Like the amount of new jokes.

02:03:52.000 He's just a machine.

02:03:53.000 And he's super dedicated.

02:03:54.000 Yeah.

02:03:55.000 That's the thing.

02:03:55.000 It's like he has a thing that he's really good at, that he really loves, that he's very dedicated to.

02:04:00.000 So he's like always after it.

02:04:02.000 And so because he's always after it, he's always doing all these sets and he's always sharp.

02:04:06.000 And I mean, that's really what it's at for all of us, you know.

02:04:09.000 And there's kind of almost a monastic approach that he takes.

02:04:14.000 He wears the same clothes essentially every night.

02:04:17.000 I don't mean by the same clothes, but it doesn't vary in his style.

02:04:21.000 Just dark clothes, hat.

02:04:23.000 Look, Dave just sold out Stand Up Live in Phoenix and killed it down there.

02:04:29.000 I mean, it's not like he's not loved.

02:04:30.000 The people that know, and there's plenty of them, love him.

02:04:33.000 But as far as like...

02:04:36.000 Great comics that don't get put into the category of great comics like he's number one on my list.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, I love him too.

02:04:42.000 He's great.

02:04:42.000 He might be the one of the best of all time and right now he's in his prime and I think a lot of it is like he stopped drinking unlike us and Turned his life around When is the last special?

02:04:53.000 Do you know?

02:04:53.000 I don't know.

02:04:54.000 Was it Bumping Mics on Netflix?

02:04:56.000 Well, that's interesting too, right?

02:04:58.000 Him doing that thing with Jeff.

02:04:59.000 That's a really fun thing.

02:05:00.000 Because they're both so good off their feet.

02:05:02.000 Yeah.

02:05:03.000 You know, Skanks for the Memories was his first big CD. That was a really good one that he did at Denver at the Comedy Works.

02:05:10.000 It's really fun.

02:05:11.000 That's a great club.

02:05:11.000 It's a great club.

02:05:12.000 I love there and Comedy on State in Madison.

02:05:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:16.000 Those are great clubs.

02:05:17.000 I never worked that place.

02:05:19.000 By the time I got to Madison, I was already doing theaters, but someone was there with me and they came back to do it.

02:05:26.000 Oh, it was Ian.

02:05:27.000 He said it was awesome.

02:05:30.000 Ian's coming to a soccer game with me.

02:05:32.000 I've become a soccer fan.

02:05:33.000 Yeah, I saw you posted a game here, right?

02:05:37.000 Yeah, we went to the Austin Football Club.

02:05:40.000 It's called the Austin FC. You dug it?

02:05:42.000 Dude, it's good.

02:05:43.000 It's really good, man.

02:05:45.000 When you watch those guys in real time, first of all, massive appreciation.

02:05:50.000 Are you going to...

02:05:50.000 No, no.

02:05:51.000 Let me hear that noise.

02:05:52.000 Let me hear it.

02:05:57.000 This is like ASMR? It is.

02:05:59.000 Like that nobody wants to hear?

02:06:00.000 Do you listen to ASMR? I do all the time.

02:06:02.000 I don't.

02:06:03.000 I went on a date with a girl one time and that's what she does for a living, just like ASMR videos. 1.00

02:06:08.000 And I was like, that's hot.

02:06:09.000 Okay.

02:06:09.000 That's hot.

02:06:10.000 I mean, she just wants to make noise. 1.00

02:06:11.000 I guess.

02:06:12.000 What do you mean to guess?

02:06:14.000 I mean, it's weird to me that people are into that.

02:06:18.000 I'm into it with cooking.

02:06:20.000 Cooking videos or ASMR? Yeah, I listen to cooking ASMR videos.

02:06:25.000 How does that work?

02:06:26.000 Because you hear like the slicing of the onion with the chef's knife.

02:06:28.000 That is cool.

02:06:29.000 Have you seen this part of it?

02:06:31.000 Where they're doing ear sucking? 0.97

02:06:31.000 Hey, that's her! 0.97

02:06:33.000 What are they doing? 0.98

02:06:34.000 They're sucking on things? 0.99

02:06:35.000 Yeah, they lick. 1.00

02:06:36.000 There's like a microphone inside this ear.

02:06:38.000 It's ear eating?

02:06:39.000 Let me hear this.

02:06:40.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:06:41.000 Isn't it weird how the internet has like opened up entire economies for weird shit? 0.97

02:06:45.000 Like they probably make a hundred grand a month. 0.94

02:06:48.000 Well, I hope they make one.

02:06:50.000 Okay.

02:06:53.000 Just for hours on stream.

02:06:55.000 I'm sure.

02:06:56.000 Yeah.

02:06:57.000 Look, if you can imagine it, someone's doing it.

02:07:00.000 Right?

02:07:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:07:02.000 Someone's out there sucking toes on OnlyFans, and all they do is suck toes. 1.00

02:07:06.000 Guaranteed. 0.99

02:07:07.000 Why wouldn't you?

02:07:07.000 It's a lot of money.

02:07:08.000 I bet.

02:07:09.000 What do you want to do?

02:07:10.000 I know some people who would, like, send underwear.

02:07:12.000 Like, guys that pay top dollar just for, like, worn underwear.

02:07:14.000 Imagine if you're in the middle of shithole USA and you've got two options. 0.99

02:07:19.000 Work at Target or suck toes on OnlyFans. 0.99

02:07:24.000 Imagine you're working at Target. 0.99

02:07:25.000 Why choose?

02:07:26.000 You're working at Target, you're making $7.95 an hour. 1.00

02:07:29.000 It fucking sucks. 1.00

02:07:30.000 Everyone's dumb. 1.00

02:07:31.000 You're working with assholes, you know, people on fentanyl all day. 1.00

02:07:35.000 It's just a disaster, right? 1.00

02:07:37.000 And then one of your friends goes, hey, I just made $3,000 taking pictures of my butt. 0.99

02:07:44.000 And you're like, what? 0.99

02:07:45.000 Wait a minute, $3,000? 0.98

02:07:47.000 And you start thinking about your stepdad and how you got to get the fuck out of this town. 0.99

02:07:50.000 And you're like, I need to get some goddamn money. 0.99

02:07:54.000 You know, what are people into? 0.99

02:07:55.000 They're in at feet.

02:07:56.000 Yeah, here they are.

02:07:58.000 There's a lot of girls on the OnlyFans, apparently. 1.00

02:08:00.000 All they do is, like, show feet.

02:08:02.000 Like, yeah, that's enough.

02:08:03.000 That's all you need to do.

02:08:05.000 Like, Patreon is our OnlyFans, just for comics, you know?

02:08:08.000 Like, one unreleased episode a week.

02:08:10.000 That's our underwear in a Ziploc bag.

02:08:12.000 Is it as shameful, though?

02:08:13.000 I don't know.

02:08:14.000 I feel like we're in a post-shame society.

02:08:16.000 Patreon is an interesting thing, too, right?

02:08:18.000 Because at first I was a little skeptical of it, but now it's become so widespread and so many people support artists and comics and all kinds of shit through Patreon now.

02:08:29.000 It's pretty cool, dude.

02:08:31.000 Like, even the special that I did, there's a donate button now, because I saw Joe List.

02:08:36.000 He released his on YouTube as well.

02:08:38.000 I love Joe List.

02:08:39.000 Very funny.

02:08:40.000 He had a donate button on there.

02:08:41.000 I'm like, oh, let me do that on mine.

02:08:42.000 It's called Super Thanks.

02:08:44.000 Because I self-financed, self-produced this.

02:08:46.000 There's no company behind it.

02:08:48.000 I go, if you guys liked it or whatever, share, like, subscribe.

02:08:52.000 Or if you're awesome, hit the donate button, but you don't have to.

02:08:55.000 And I would get like $10, $50.

02:08:58.000 I wouldn't expect this type of goodwill from people, but fans really want to support you.

02:09:04.000 And I've been just kind of taken aback by the amount of donations from people just from that button.

02:09:10.000 Yeah, if you can get to a just purely donation-based income, it's probably the best way to do it.

02:09:17.000 I know Sam Harris essentially operates that way.

02:09:20.000 He does his podcast purely...

02:09:21.000 Not only does he do it, this is what he does.

02:09:24.000 He does it through this system where you have to subscribe.

02:09:27.000 He'll give you the first 30 minutes of the podcast.

02:09:29.000 Then you have to subscribe to get the rest of the podcast.

02:09:32.000 So it costs money to subscribe.

02:09:33.000 But I think you get to donate whatever you want to.

02:09:36.000 I think it's one of those deals.

02:09:38.000 And then on top...

02:09:39.000 Check to see if that's true.

02:09:42.000 I don't know if you get to donate whatever you want to get to Sam Harris' podcast.

02:09:45.000 But one thing you definitely do is if you can't afford it, he doesn't want it to be an impediment to you getting the show.

02:09:53.000 So if you can't afford it, he doesn't want it to be a barrier.

02:09:56.000 So he gives it to you for free.

02:09:57.000 All you have to do is email.

02:09:58.000 If you just email, I can't afford it.

02:10:00.000 He goes, and we grant 100% of the requests.

02:10:03.000 I go, that is crazy.

02:10:04.000 And it works.

02:10:05.000 It works.

02:10:06.000 Are you going to have some scammers?

02:10:08.000 Yes, of course you are.

02:10:09.000 But you're going to have a lot of people that appreciate the will behind that, that it really is honest, and it's an even exchange.

02:10:15.000 It's like, I'm going to do my best to create the show, donate, and if you can't afford to donate, I don't want it to be the reason why you can't watch the show or listen to the show, so then you can have it for free.

02:10:24.000 Just email me.

02:10:25.000 It's beautiful, and that's what I wanted to do with this, to just have no friction between the content and the people.

02:10:32.000 I'm incorrect.

02:10:33.000 So he's got a monthly and an annual.

02:10:35.000 I think I'm conflating him with somebody else who did a thing.

02:10:40.000 Someone else had one.

02:10:42.000 I forget who it is.

02:10:44.000 Obviously I forget.

02:10:45.000 But someone had one where you could donate as much as you want. 0.95

02:10:48.000 So it could be a dollar or it could be $100, whatever the fuck you want. 0.95

02:10:52.000 He had it set up that way, but it wasn't Sam.

02:10:54.000 So Sam has a specific model, like a subscription model.

02:10:58.000 But because he's so good and because he has this reputation from all of his debates that are online and all of his talks online, he puts on rock solid, very fascinating, very intellectually challenging content.

02:11:11.000 So it's worth the money.

02:11:14.000 If you can set up a model like that where even if you can't afford it, all you have to do is ask, then people are like, well, this guy's legit.

02:11:21.000 He has to be legit.

02:11:22.000 This is not something that a business person would create.

02:11:24.000 They wouldn't create that kind of a loophole where the Redditors would capitalize on that, or 4chan, I should say.

02:11:30.000 But there's also something cool about having that intimate relationship with the fans, and you just kind of trust each other.

02:11:36.000 Because I'll get 50 bucks, I'll get 60 bucks, and if I charge that much for my special, no one would give me 50 bucks for the special if I had that paywall.

02:11:45.000 But because it's free, there's so much goodwill, they go, I enjoyed it so much, here's 50 bucks.

02:11:51.000 And there's something cool about that.

02:11:54.000 Yeah.

02:11:56.000 And you don't like...

02:11:58.000 It's kind of communism.

02:11:59.000 A little bit or...

02:12:00.000 Socialist-y.

02:12:02.000 Yeah.

02:12:03.000 But it's okay.

02:12:03.000 You don't need as much...

02:12:05.000 I think what's great about what's happening with technology and art is you don't need everybody in the world.

02:12:10.000 You can have a thriving business with just a core group of diehard fans.

02:12:14.000 Yes, that is important.

02:12:16.000 And I think if you're connected to a network, unfortunately, like if you're on a television show or if you're doing something else, they don't want a small group of thriving fans.

02:12:24.000 They want the largest, widest reach possible.

02:12:28.000 And the best way to do that is to water a town and to make sure you don't...

02:12:33.000 Put anything in danger.

02:12:35.000 You don't say anything crazy, Fahim.

02:12:36.000 It's like art by focus group.

02:12:38.000 Listen, Fahim, we're all a team.

02:12:39.000 Okay, there's a hundred people behind you on this team.

02:12:41.000 If you get in trouble, we get in trouble.

02:12:42.000 Okay?

02:12:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:43.000 So, why don't you shut the fuck up? 1.00

02:12:46.000 Just be a team player? 1.00

02:12:47.000 Yeah, just be a team player.

02:12:48.000 Well, that's what I thought about when comedians get canceled, supposedly, and then people on Twitter will be like, cancel culture isn't real.

02:12:54.000 Look at the comedian still performing.

02:12:56.000 And you're forgetting the fact that they...

02:12:58.000 The comedian is fortunate enough to have so...

02:13:03.000 They don't have any moving parts, but the commerce between them and the people.

02:13:08.000 Because Kevin Spacey needs a production team.

02:13:11.000 He needs so many people to say yes to this thing, where it's not going to happen.

02:13:17.000 Whereas with stand-up comedy, if enough people come to a venue, that's the business.

02:13:22.000 It's a guy and a mic.

02:13:24.000 When people show up to the venue, you can't throw a wrench into that.

02:13:27.000 People are voting with their money.

02:13:30.000 Yeah, but it's also like, what do you mean cancel culture isn't real?

02:13:33.000 If you're saying that people don't like to gang up on people when something goes wrong.

02:13:38.000 No, no, that exists.

02:13:38.000 No, I'm not saying you are.

02:13:39.000 I'm saying other people that are saying cancel culture isn't real.

02:13:41.000 If they're saying that, that's just because someone can still work.

02:13:46.000 It doesn't mean they didn't get a horrendous experience that they may or may not have deserved.

02:13:52.000 And it's sort of sport.

02:13:53.000 There's a sport to it.

02:13:54.000 There's a lot of people that pile on.

02:13:57.000 Tim Dillon and I became friends because of a thing that he wrote about Louis C.K., and I reached out to him.

02:14:02.000 He wrote about all these people that are mediocre, not very talented comics. 0.94

02:14:07.000 They were shitting all over Louis C.K. And I was like, he's right. 0.98

02:14:09.000 Because I see that.

02:14:10.000 I recognize that there were certain people, not all of them, but there were certain people that were highly critical of Louis in a way where it was almost like, They were trying to make sure that this uber-talented guy never entered back.

02:14:23.000 It wasn't even what he did.

02:14:24.000 It was more of the social status.

02:14:26.000 They're going to reclaim or they're going to claim higher ground by pushing him down.

02:14:32.000 It was a weird sort of like kick them when they're down thing.

02:14:37.000 It wasn't just about what happened.

02:14:40.000 It was also about them moving up.

02:14:43.000 And it was transparent.

02:14:43.000 It was about them moving up.

02:14:45.000 You could see it.

02:14:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:14:46.000 Because they all sucked. 1.00

02:14:47.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:48.000 It wasn't like anybody that was really brilliant, that was killing it, that came out against Louis C.K. like that.

02:14:53.000 It wasn't.

02:14:54.000 It was guys that were terrible at stand-up, or okay at stand-up, but they suck at women and life, and they're depressed, and maybe their career was going good, and then it started to falter. 0.76

02:15:05.000 It's like those guys. 0.94

02:15:06.000 Those are the attackers.

02:15:08.000 There was people that were critical of him, but it's the attackers, the way they did it.

02:15:14.000 It's almost like you didn't want to recognize that he's a human being.

02:15:17.000 It's almost like he becomes enemy. 1.00

02:15:19.000 You can attack, you can say crazy shit. 1.00

02:15:23.000 It doesn't have to be accurate. 0.99

02:15:25.000 There is an opportunistic element whenever someone is down like that.

02:15:30.000 Like, let me jump off their back to slam dunk here on Twitter.

02:15:33.000 That is very prevalent.

02:15:36.000 It's natural.

02:15:37.000 It's human nature. 1.00

02:15:38.000 And it's human nature is also because if someone like Will Smith does something really stupid, like smack Chris Rock, it's not just he did something stupid, but it's also he has lived a life of extreme... 0.99

02:15:53.000 I don't want to say fortune because he's super talented. 0.98

02:15:58.000 But it's a very, very unusual life and unattainable to most people.

02:16:03.000 Oscar winner, movie star, recording artist.

02:16:07.000 I mean, he's a super, superstar. 1.00

02:16:11.000 So for him to do something where we can all go, boo, fuck you. 1.00

02:16:15.000 It's not just boo, fuck you. 1.00

02:16:17.000 It's also boo, fuck you and now you're not going to be as big as you used to be. 1.00

02:16:23.000 Now I'm not going to support you. 1.00

02:16:25.000 Now I'm not going to go to a meeting.

02:16:26.000 Now I'm going to boycott you.

02:16:27.000 But if a rapper, like some unknown rapper, went up and smacked Chris Rock in the face, that guy would be huge.

02:16:37.000 If he was with his girlfriend.

02:16:39.000 So let's say Jada Pinkett breaks up with Will Smith and Jada Pinkett is at the Oscars.

02:16:46.000 And the Will Smith slap never took place.

02:16:48.000 And she's with some young rapper. 0.99

02:16:50.000 And the rapper responds to Chris Rock's joke by going on stage and smacking him.

02:16:55.000 That guy would be huge.

02:16:57.000 He'd be ballin' out of control.

02:16:59.000 He would make 15 songs about it.

02:17:01.000 He would have like stacks of cash on a private jet talking about slapping Chris Rock.

02:17:07.000 It was weird seeing the takes after that happened.

02:17:10.000 Like some people were like, yeah, that's how you protect your woman.

02:17:13.000 I'm glad he did it.

02:17:15.000 It was so weird how that was like a Rorschach test for America or the world.

02:17:20.000 How could anyone think that that was justified?

02:17:23.000 It wasn't even a mean joke.

02:17:25.000 Not at all.

02:17:26.000 That's the thing.

02:17:27.000 I've said this before, but I'll say it again just in the interest of being clear here.

02:17:31.000 That movie was a strong movie.

02:17:35.000 G.I. Jane was a movie about a beautiful woman, Demi Moore, who became a fucking Navy SEAL. She was a badass lady. 1.00

02:17:41.000 There's nothing negative about it.

02:17:43.000 So saying G.I. Jane 2...

02:17:45.000 It's empowering.

02:17:46.000 There's nothing negative about it.

02:17:48.000 It's like you're literally comparing yourself to a hero.

02:17:51.000 Or someone is comparing you, rather, to a hero.

02:17:54.000 It's not an insult.

02:17:55.000 If he said powder, now I get it.

02:17:57.000 Then I get it.

02:17:58.000 Yeah.

02:17:59.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:17:59.000 If he said fucking Kojak... 1.00

02:18:01.000 Yeah, then by all means, do what you did. 1.00

02:18:04.000 I thought I was dating myself with powder. 0.99

02:18:06.000 No, Kojak was in the fucking 70s. 0.99

02:18:08.000 I used to watch it with my grandpa. 0.99

02:18:09.000 Was he a lollipop?

02:18:10.000 Yeah, he had a lollipop.

02:18:11.000 I know.

02:18:11.000 He was a detective.

02:18:14.000 Those are the early days of Law& Order. 0.99

02:18:16.000 That set up the trap of Law& Order, where there's always a smart detective of It figures out your fucking sneaky plan. 0.93

02:18:23.000 There are certain boilerplate shows that will never go away, like the hospital drama, the legal drama, the cop thing. 0.93

02:18:31.000 Those are just, they're timeless.

02:18:33.000 Because there's inherent stakes.

02:18:35.000 Somebody needs to do a new Smokey and the Bandit.

02:18:39.000 Didn't they do a movie?

02:18:40.000 They need to do a new one. 1.00

02:18:41.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:18:41.000 Like a series? 1.00

02:18:42.000 No, a new movie.

02:18:44.000 Okay.

02:18:44.000 Burt Reynolds is dead.

02:18:45.000 We need a new Smokey and the Bandit.

02:18:47.000 Who's gonna be Smokey?

02:18:48.000 I don't know.

02:18:48.000 We need someone who's good.

02:18:49.000 The Bandit.

02:18:50.000 Oh, okay.

02:18:51.000 Smokey was the Jackie Gleason character.

02:18:54.000 Okay, okay.

02:18:54.000 So who's gonna be the Bandit?

02:18:55.000 Is that it?

02:18:56.000 Yeah.

02:18:56.000 Smokey's like, that's the fuzz, right?

02:19:00.000 Isn't that what they called it back in those CB days?

02:19:02.000 Yeah.

02:19:03.000 Smokey.

02:19:04.000 That's like a cop, right?

02:19:05.000 The bandit was Burt Reynolds, right?

02:19:09.000 So the other guy, Smokey, must have been...

02:19:11.000 I don't remember.

02:19:14.000 Doesn't that term, Smokey, doesn't that mean the cops?

02:19:18.000 I think it meant the cops back then.

02:19:20.000 But Burt Reynolds and Sally Fields, those are fun-ass movies, man.

02:19:25.000 It was an innocent time.

02:19:26.000 I'm excited for Top Gun.

02:19:28.000 I feel like since COVID and everything, there hasn't been a movie that has captured the nation yet or whatever.

02:19:33.000 I'm excited to go back to the theaters and check that out.

02:19:35.000 Especially when we're on the brink of war.

02:19:37.000 Sure.

02:19:38.000 And there might be a war with jets.

02:19:39.000 You think they'll address it?

02:19:41.000 In the movie?

02:19:42.000 I doubt it.

02:19:43.000 I doubt it.

02:19:45.000 He's flying up there, Tom Cruise?

02:19:46.000 I mean...

02:19:49.000 That's what the movie's about.

02:19:51.000 The movie's about guys who fly fighter jets that kill people really good.

02:19:56.000 The movie's about the guys who are the best at flying the jets that kill people.

02:20:01.000 They just do Top Gun with drones. 1.00

02:20:03.000 I mean, they do that simply because they want to kill people.

02:20:06.000 That's why they're really good at it.

02:20:07.000 Or to defend, to stop anybody from killing us.

02:20:11.000 Yeah, that's a good thing.

02:20:12.000 It is a good thing.

02:20:13.000 But I'm just saying, it's a wild subject for a movie.

02:20:17.000 Like, this guy's the hero.

02:20:19.000 The guy that kills people the best in his jet. 0.98

02:20:20.000 And it's kind of an indiscriminate way of killing people. 1.00

02:20:23.000 You're launching missiles into a fucking bunker somewhere. 1.00

02:20:27.000 Because it's so tiny. 1.00

02:20:28.000 Like, it's not real when you're so far away.

02:20:30.000 You just see a puff.

02:20:33.000 Yeah, you're like, I don't see the carnage.

02:20:35.000 I'm okay.

02:20:36.000 Yeah, you're not stabbing someone.

02:20:38.000 You're not shooting someone in the face.

02:20:39.000 You're launching missiles from the sky.

02:20:42.000 It's easy to compartmentalize that. 0.98

02:20:44.000 Do you imagine how fucking alert you have to be to pilot one of those jets? 0.96

02:20:48.000 And how long do they fly for? 0.98

02:20:49.000 I don't think they fly for very long. 0.82

02:20:51.000 I think they run out of gas pretty fucking quick. 0.90

02:20:53.000 Yeah. 0.83

02:20:54.000 Don't you have to be a certain height, too?

02:20:55.000 Like, if you're too tall, you can't be a fighter jet or a fighter pilot?

02:20:58.000 Well, there's a thing about G-Force.

02:21:00.000 I flew with the Blue Angels once, and they don't wear G-suits.

02:21:04.000 And the guy who flew me, you know, it's like there's a pilot and you sit behind and he goes through like some stuff with you. 0.99

02:21:11.000 The guy who flew me was fucking jacked. 0.98

02:21:14.000 He was like maybe 5'9", 5'10", at the most. 0.99

02:21:18.000 They try to keep him fairly short because, I mean, you don't want a guy seven feet tall to be a fighter jet.

02:21:23.000 Also, probably wouldn't fit in there that good.

02:21:25.000 But the thing is, it's about the distance between your blood and your heart.

02:21:29.000 So when you hit G-force, you have to do a thing called hooking.

02:21:33.000 And hooking is you're like this.

02:21:36.000 And you're forcing blood into your head to try to stay conscious. 0.99

02:21:40.000 And the gravity, the fucking G-force of the acceleration, the banking of a turn or something like that. 0.98

02:21:48.000 We got to, I think we got to seven and a half G's. 0.99

02:21:51.000 I think that's the most I could take.

02:21:53.000 And this dude has done nine, ten G's.

02:21:56.000 It is insane amount of pressure.

02:21:59.000 You feel your consciousness closing.

02:22:02.000 Like the blood is leaving your brain.

02:22:04.000 It's being pushed out by the force.

02:22:05.000 And the only way you can stay conscious is to do this hooking thing.

02:22:09.000 So they have to be jacked.

02:22:11.000 Yeah.

02:22:11.000 And they have to be fairly small.

02:22:12.000 Except the G-suits.

02:22:13.000 I think the G-suits make it quite a bit easier. 1.00

02:22:17.000 And they're like, I don't know, I'm not exactly sure how they work, but they're almost like inflated.

02:22:22.000 Like G-suits are like some sort of a, it's some sort of thing that mitigates the effect of gravity, but that's why you can't be like tall.

02:22:30.000 Right. 0.99

02:22:30.000 Because I think it's harder to get the blood to the fucking brain. 0.99

02:22:33.000 Without passing out and shit. 1.00

02:22:34.000 Yeah, because you're going, like you're literally forcing blood into your head. 0.99

02:22:39.000 I mean, you Feel it.

02:22:42.000 If you just let go and relax, you're going to go black.

02:22:45.000 Have you seen those videos, the training videos, where they're pulling all those G's and you see where they pass out?

02:22:49.000 Yeah.

02:22:50.000 It's nuts.

02:22:50.000 Yeah.

02:22:51.000 It's hard to not pass out.

02:22:53.000 Some people have almost a natural proclivity to fainting.

02:22:58.000 I wonder if that plays into a factor there.

02:23:00.000 Some people, like, they see things and they just black out. 0.99

02:23:03.000 Yeah, you might be a great pilot, but if you pass out too early, you're just kind of fucked. 0.98

02:23:06.000 Or what if you're a great surgeon? 0.99

02:23:08.000 The moment you cut somebody, you know?

02:23:11.000 I mean, that's a thing with people.

02:23:14.000 Or you get the yips.

02:23:15.000 I dated this girl and her dad was a dentist and he couldn't see like bad stuff, even though he was a dentist.

02:23:22.000 Like blood?

02:23:22.000 His son came home once and his son had bad sunburn, like real bad sunburn.

02:23:27.000 He had like 30 degree burns, like bubbles and blisters on him.

02:23:30.000 The dad saw it, blacked out.

02:23:33.000 I was like, oh my god.

02:23:34.000 Jeez.

02:23:34.000 Oh my god.

02:23:35.000 He can pull teeth, though?

02:23:36.000 We went to a movie once, me and this gal.

02:23:38.000 And in the movie, someone's shooting heroin.

02:23:40.000 And she sees the heroin needle go into the guy's arm.

02:23:45.000 She blacked out.

02:23:46.000 And she warned me.

02:23:47.000 I thought she was joking.

02:23:48.000 Like, you really faint?

02:23:50.000 She goes, yeah, I can't.

02:23:51.000 It's in my family.

02:23:52.000 My dad does it, too.

02:23:53.000 I'm like, that's crazy.

02:23:54.000 She goes, I know, but I can't do anything about it.

02:23:56.000 I'm like, wow.

02:23:58.000 That's weird that it's hereditary.

02:23:59.000 It's hereditary.

02:24:00.000 It's like the golden retriever thing.

02:24:01.000 Like, I just can't see needles.

02:24:03.000 Well, I think it's like a shocking trauma thing.

02:24:07.000 Like any shocking physical trauma, just boom, shut off.

02:24:11.000 Which is like, what a weird reaction.

02:24:14.000 Not repulsion, not, you know...

02:24:16.000 Your body's just like, I'm out.

02:24:17.000 Your body's like, check please. 0.87

02:24:19.000 I don't want to see this. 0.99

02:24:20.000 If we shut off, people will catch us and they'll bring us to a nice hospital and I don't have to see this fucking needle go in this guy's arm in a movie theater. 0.99

02:24:28.000 I would just look away. 0.99

02:24:29.000 I would just look at the top corner of the screen.

02:24:31.000 It is weird, though, isn't it?

02:24:34.000 Some people have this built-in snooze button that you can just hit.

02:24:40.000 Weird.

02:24:41.000 Yeah.

02:24:41.000 I think that happens when trauma happens.

02:24:44.000 An explosion or you get shot, your body just makes you not feel it, go into shock to protect yourself.

02:24:51.000 Oh, that's true.

02:24:51.000 Yeah, that's definitely why you get knocked out.

02:24:53.000 You know, your body's trying to protect you.

02:24:55.000 And also, it's like your mind and your central nervous system just can't handle the shock of what just happened to it.

02:25:02.000 So it just shuts down to try to almost try to reboot, I think.

02:25:07.000 I mean, that's probably a shitty way of describing it, but it's just the trauma of brain injury that causes a concussion and being knocked unconscious.

02:25:16.000 It's just a ruthless situation for the whole body.

02:25:19.000 The whole body. 0.99

02:25:20.000 If you see people get knocked out, like Javante Davis just scored a stunning knockout this past Saturday night against Rolando Romero, and he hit him with this fucking left hook, 0.99

02:25:36.000 man. 0.97

02:25:36.000 It was so beautiful, this counter left, because the dude was like a super powerful knockout puncher. 0.97

02:25:41.000 And he wades in with a right hand to the body and he throws another right hand.

02:25:45.000 Boom! 0.99

02:25:45.000 He gets caught with his left hand. 0.99

02:25:47.000 Boom! 0.99

02:25:47.000 And he gets dropped. 0.99

02:25:48.000 So he threw a right hand to the head and then a right hand to the body. 0.80

02:25:51.000 Pull it back again so I can see it.

02:25:53.000 So watch it one more time.

02:25:55.000 So he throws his right hand to the head, and then he throws it to the body, and he gets countered with a picture-perfect left hook and just starched.

02:26:01.000 So watch.

02:26:02.000 He tries to get up, and his whole central nervous system is just fried.

02:26:06.000 Like, he can't get up.

02:26:08.000 His legs aren't working right.

02:26:09.000 Like, he's conscious.

02:26:10.000 Like, look how everything doesn't work right.

02:26:12.000 He's trying to back up, and the referee's like, stand here.

02:26:14.000 He's like, no, no, no.

02:26:15.000 You can't.

02:26:15.000 You're not even listening.

02:26:17.000 And he's not even protesting.

02:26:19.000 He knows he's out of it.

02:26:20.000 He has no idea what's going on. 0.99

02:26:21.000 So his whole system just shut the fuck off. 0.93

02:26:24.000 Have you seen that Instagram account, that boxing? 0.97

02:26:26.000 I sent it to you one time.

02:26:27.000 You were like, oh yeah, I know this guy.

02:26:28.000 Or they do the animations on the boxing.

02:26:30.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:26:31.000 I love that account.

02:26:32.000 No, that's great. 0.98

02:26:33.000 Goddamn, I forgot the account. 0.96

02:26:34.000 Boxing Loop, I think? 0.97

02:26:35.000 I don't know.

02:26:36.000 It's like Mortal Kombat animations.

02:26:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:26:38.000 Yeah, I love it.

02:26:39.000 That's the beautiful thing about the internet, one of them. 0.98

02:26:41.000 There's just so much content, so much cool shit.

02:26:44.000 There's so many talented people out there in the world, and it's really democratized talent. 0.96

02:26:48.000 Well, how about memes?

02:26:50.000 Memes as well. 0.98

02:26:51.000 Like, how many fucking hilarious memes are there? 0.97

02:26:54.000 Yeah, here it is. 0.98

02:26:57.000 Boxing loop.

02:26:58.000 So he adds all this cool animation.

02:27:01.000 Two piece, no soda.

02:27:07.000 That's interesting.

02:27:09.000 He just makes it fun.

02:27:10.000 There's a few of those.

02:27:11.000 There's a few of those that are out there that do stuff with MMA fights, too.

02:27:17.000 It's, again, just like comedians.

02:27:19.000 It's an interesting time for anybody to create things.

02:27:22.000 As long as the gatekeepers understand the reason why it's so cool in the first place is because you let so many diverse ideas and opinions and styles of thought and styles of creating things get loose.

02:27:35.000 You can't control that so much.

02:27:37.000 It's not good for anybody.

02:27:38.000 It's exciting to see that no one conglomerate controls the pipe anymore.

02:27:43.000 But they do kind of.

02:27:44.000 They do a little bit.

02:27:45.000 YouTube kind of controls the video pipe.

02:27:47.000 It's a little more open than, say, one person's taste at Netflix, HBO Max, or Comedy Central.

02:27:53.000 You have a better chance of reaching more people via Instagram, TikTok, YouTube.

02:27:59.000 Right, but they can remove you if they don't like what you say.

02:28:03.000 They can remove you, and they do.

02:28:05.000 And they do all the time.

02:28:06.000 Yeah.

02:28:07.000 But it's like, should that be a thing?

02:28:10.000 I mean, I understand the impulse to try to make things nicer.

02:28:14.000 Try to make people behave nicer.

02:28:16.000 But I don't think necessarily, like, banning people from having differing opinions than you is the way to do it.

02:28:22.000 And shadow banning people, it's like you're taking away someone's livelihood on a misunderstanding occasionally.

02:28:27.000 Exactly.

02:28:27.000 It's an imperfect science.

02:28:29.000 Exactly.

02:28:30.000 And it's also, it's like, it's a little too convenient to shut people up that way, you know?

02:28:36.000 But then, you know, it's weird.

02:28:39.000 It's like, you know, they'll say, like, one thing that people are really freaking out about is Trump.

02:28:47.000 Trump coming back to Twitter.

02:28:49.000 You know, if Trump comes back to Twitter.

02:28:51.000 And people think that'd be terrible if Trump comes back to Twitter. 0.99

02:28:54.000 But the fucking Taliban's on Twitter. 0.99

02:28:58.000 They're on TikTok. 0.99

02:29:00.000 I mean, they are not allowed to do TikTok, and you shouldn't even say that.

02:29:03.000 Especially being from Afghanistan. 0.95

02:29:05.000 I mean, yeah, yeah, sorry.

02:29:06.000 You should know that, buddy.

02:29:07.000 But, I mean, China's on Twitter. 0.50

02:29:11.000 CCP's on Twitter.

02:29:13.000 I almost feel like that was just a ploy from China.

02:29:16.000 Like, Alright, yeah, we're just going to have your youth do dancing and all these pranks in grocery stores, and we're going to limit our people with what they can do with it.

02:29:24.000 It's going to be education-based.

02:29:26.000 We're going to shut it off at a certain time, and then you guys are going to idiocracy it, and then we're going to take over.

02:29:31.000 Well, that's the thing about social engineering. 0.98

02:29:33.000 First of all...

02:29:34.000 Let's not pretend that any civilization has ever done social engineering where it worked long term.

02:29:40.000 I mean, just the horrors of this single child household that China imposed for years. 0.78

02:29:48.000 Just the horrors of what happened to female babies. 0.99

02:29:52.000 It's terrible, terrible shit that doesn't just make a disproportionate amount of males to females, which is a huge problem in China right now, but also all those people that had female babies that had to be killed. 0.99

02:30:08.000 That's not a small amount of people. 0.99

02:30:10.000 And all those people whose family was ratted out and someone found out that the woman's pregnant and so they forced her to have abortions when she's nine months pregnant or forced her to give birth to a dead baby so they would literally inject the head of the baby with a poison to kill the baby while it's in the womb so that it's stillborn.

02:30:34.000 I'm reading this about it in this Douglas Murray book called The War on the West, and that's one of the things that he talks about.

02:30:43.000 The single-child household in China, it was a terrible thing. 1.00

02:30:49.000 And that's a form of social engineering. 0.89

02:30:52.000 There's too many people, so you can only have one kid.

02:30:54.000 And people with no kids are like, yeah, well, how do you enforce that?

02:30:58.000 This is the problem with any idea with socialism or Marxism.

02:31:02.000 How do you enforce it?

02:31:02.000 With violence.

02:31:04.000 It's the only way. 0.87

02:31:05.000 If you want to get everybody to give their money up and no one has any weapons and you decide how much everybody gets paid and whatever your task is, it's the same as the fucking guy who makes pizzas, it's the same as the guy who builds jets, it's all the same.

02:31:21.000 Like, how do you enforce that? 0.95

02:31:22.000 Violence!

02:31:23.000 It's the only way.

02:31:23.000 And so then the state becomes your daddy, and then the state decides that, you know, like in the case of North Korea, that its daddy is super powerful and plays golf better than anybody that's ever lived.

02:31:34.000 You ever read the account of Kim Jong-un playing golf?

02:31:37.000 No, but I know him and Dennis Rodman were boys.

02:31:40.000 I read something about it that it might be just a misinterpretation that got way blown out of proportions.

02:31:46.000 Sounds like Jamie works for the state.

02:31:47.000 No, there's a way to keep score where you're not writing down the actual number you got, you're just writing down relative to par.

02:31:53.000 He had 11 holes in one, bro.

02:31:54.000 That's not how, that's just, someone read the score wrong and it got reported that way is how I read this interpretation.

02:32:00.000 But that was the interpretation of the glowing media coverage in the North Korean news, wasn't it?

02:32:07.000 I read through this in a golf magazine expose.

02:32:12.000 Golf magazine is getting paid off.

02:32:14.000 It just made more sense when it was written that way is all.

02:32:16.000 He got a score way more accurately than he should have, like 120 or something like that.

02:32:22.000 I don't know what that means since I don't play golf.

02:32:26.000 His holes in one would have been one over rather than an actual one.

02:32:31.000 That's how they were writing the score down.

02:32:32.000 That's all I'm trying to say.

02:32:34.000 So what was that, the depiction that we read? 0.99

02:32:36.000 So then someone saw that scorecard and was like, holy shit, what? 0.99

02:32:39.000 They don't understand. 0.99

02:32:40.000 There's different golf ways to score.

02:32:41.000 But that wasn't written by the North Korean news?

02:32:45.000 I'm just, I'll pull up the article I read.

02:32:47.000 I'm just sort of telling you.

02:32:47.000 It seems like.

02:32:48.000 I'm blown out of proportion.

02:32:49.000 I wanted to do a sketch called, like, North Korean Sports Center.

02:32:51.000 And it's just Kim Jong-un, like, beating, he's, like, winning the finals in the World Cup.

02:32:55.000 And, like, he's just this, he's elbow dunking on, like, LeBron.

02:32:59.000 Like, great leader wins again.

02:33:01.000 Yeah.

02:33:02.000 I had Yeonmi Park on the podcast, a woman who escaped North Korea.

02:33:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:33:07.000 You want to talk about a lady who just doesn't want to hear any bullshit? 0.99

02:33:10.000 When you escape North Korea and you make it into China as a sex slave when you're 13, you have no tolerance for bullshit. 1.00

02:33:17.000 None. 1.00

02:33:18.000 No tolerance for bullshit. 1.00

02:33:21.000 Just, what the fuck, man? 1.00

02:33:23.000 The fact that that is going on right now, and that in 2022, while you and I are sitting here drinking whiskey and talking shit, there's people that are slaves in Korea, in North Korea, and they can't get out. 1.00

02:33:35.000 They're trapped, and they're barely alive. 0.95

02:33:38.000 They barely survive in terms of their ability to just have enough food to live.

02:33:43.000 And they live in concentration camps, and they work for the state. 0.91

02:33:48.000 You live in slave camps. 0.62

02:33:49.000 And you might even not have ever done anything.

02:33:51.000 You might be born in that slave camp. 0.83

02:33:53.000 She was explaining how if one generation, say if your grandfather does something that's bad against the state, they will curse multiple generations.

02:34:02.000 So you'll be imprisoned, and your children will be imprisoned, and their children will be imprisoned before their children get released. 1.00

02:34:09.000 That's fucked. 1.00

02:34:10.000 You're on the hook for previous generations. 1.00

02:34:12.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:34:13.000 Yeah, you'll live the rest of your life in jail because your grandfather was an asshole. 1.00

02:34:16.000 You're not even born yet and you're already fucked. 1.00

02:34:18.000 What did you pull up, Jimmy? 1.00

02:34:19.000 So this reporter went to the golf course where this happened and he explains in here how it went from an innocent scorekeeping mistake and got Most

02:34:56.000 of golfers struggle to break 90. So it goes on and explains how he talked to some people there.

02:35:02.000 They explained to him that there was a scorekeeping shorthand that is used there, and then someone who ever found that in the North Korean state news most likely didn't know that, and then ran with the...

02:35:14.000 Okay, so it says unfamiliar with the score keeping shorthand, the North Korean state news agency covering the outing had read the five ones on Kim's card as holes in one.

02:35:25.000 Forget the fact that Kim, a ranked beginner, probably never sniffed bogey all day if you were keeping score for a brutal autocrat. 1.00

02:35:32.000 Would you dare tell him he'd made nothing but snowmen? 0.99

02:35:35.000 I don't know what you fucking dorks talking on your little weird jargo. 0.99

02:35:39.000 I don't wanna hear! 1.00

02:35:40.000 Shut your mouth! 1.00

02:35:45.000 Maybe. 0.99

02:35:45.000 I would like to pretend that I didn't read that. 0.99

02:35:49.000 Just go with the original propaganda piece because I think it was awesome that they said he scored 15 holes in one.

02:35:54.000 You're not a golf guy?

02:35:56.000 No.

02:35:56.000 I would be a golf guy though.

02:35:58.000 I would definitely look at Tony Hinchcliffe and Jamie and Ron White play.

02:36:02.000 It'd be fun to play with them. 0.90

02:36:03.000 I think what I'm going to do one day is when Jamie and Tony finally play, I'm going to film it on the iPhone and just get super baked and just talk shit to them What if you're amazing with your bakes? 0.97

02:36:15.000 You're like Happy Gilmore. 0.97

02:36:16.000 No, I'm not going to play.

02:36:17.000 No, you got to play.

02:36:18.000 No, if I played with them, I'd hold them back. 0.99

02:36:20.000 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 0.98

02:36:21.000 I mean, I don't play, but I want to. 0.98

02:36:23.000 Like Santino, he's a member at this great country club.

02:36:26.000 They say Santino's very good.

02:36:28.000 Really?

02:36:28.000 They say he plays...

02:36:29.000 Don't you say that?

02:36:29.000 We're going to do nine holes.

02:36:30.000 He's like, I'll take you.

02:36:31.000 You can have my loaner clubs.

02:36:33.000 He's going to try to get you to gamble with him.

02:36:35.000 No, you think?

02:36:36.000 He's going to try to rob you.

02:36:37.000 All right, I'll do it.

02:36:37.000 He's going to hustle you.

02:36:40.000 It's a big thing with golf, right?

02:36:41.000 It's like pool.

02:36:42.000 Like Jordan?

02:36:43.000 Well, Jordan gambles.

02:36:45.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:45.000 Big difference between hustling and gambling.

02:36:48.000 Hustling is someone pretends they're not good, and they get you to gamble, and then they rob you.

02:36:53.000 That's like psychology.

02:36:55.000 It's gamesmanship.

02:36:56.000 I used to be friends with a pool hustler, like a legitimate homeless pool hustler who sometimes slept on my couch. 0.99

02:37:02.000 And sometimes he hadn't slept for days and he'd snore like a goddamn train was rolling through my house. 0.99

02:37:06.000 I couldn't sleep. 0.99

02:37:07.000 I'd be in my bedroom in the other room and he'd be on my couch and I'd have my fucking pillow stuffed over my ear. 0.99

02:37:11.000 I couldn't sleep. 0.99

02:37:12.000 That was his whole living?

02:37:14.000 Just pool sharking?

02:37:14.000 Just being a pool hustler.

02:37:16.000 So what would he do?

02:37:17.000 Just pretend he's not that good?

02:37:19.000 That's what most of it was.

02:37:20.000 And then occasionally it was him getting big games.

02:37:23.000 So you'd play for money.

02:37:25.000 But those are...

02:37:26.000 When you're playing big games, you're playing a good player.

02:37:29.000 And so if you're betting $100 against Jamie and you're both A players, who knows, man?

02:37:35.000 You might be real loose that night and you might run out.

02:37:37.000 Or he might be loose and the balls might roll bad for you.

02:37:41.000 And you could lose 13-12 in a race of 13 for like $100. 1.00

02:37:44.000 Now you're fucked. 0.99

02:37:45.000 So when you're really good, it's hard to make any money because you're playing against other people that are really good. 0.99

02:37:51.000 You know, and then also, like, two people don't want to give money away.

02:37:53.000 They want a chance.

02:37:55.000 And so, like, if you're, like, say, Ko Pin Yee is, like, one of the top guys in the world, and you want to play Shane Van Boning, who's another top guy in the world, who the fuck knows who's going to win that?

02:38:06.000 They have to figure it out.

02:38:07.000 So guys bicker.

02:38:08.000 The guys are like, I want 2-1 on the money.

02:38:09.000 I want 10-9 on the score.

02:38:11.000 Like, he has to go to 10, but we only have to go to 9. Like, they try to come up with advantageous games.

02:38:17.000 And sometimes people are more hungry to gamble than they are smart. 1.00

02:38:20.000 And so they agree to these stupid games. 1.00

02:38:22.000 Like, fuck it! 1.00

02:38:22.000 Fuck it! 1.00

02:38:23.000 You want to rob? 1.00

02:38:24.000 Let's fucking play! 1.00

02:38:24.000 And they'll play, and they'll have a terrible game that they probably can't win just because they got cajoled into it by some guy who talks a lot of shit. 1.00

02:38:31.000 So there's that, too. 1.00

02:38:32.000 Yeah.

02:38:33.000 It's not just ego.

02:38:34.000 It's also you're dealing with the fact that the person's a junkie.

02:38:37.000 They're gambling junkies.

02:38:39.000 They're action junkies.

02:38:41.000 They want the action.

02:38:42.000 And the action of playing pool for money is very exciting.

02:38:46.000 Did you get into that?

02:38:47.000 Yeah, I did.

02:38:48.000 I was never good.

02:38:49.000 I was never good like I could play real guys, but I was good enough so I could occasionally do really well in a local tournament.

02:38:57.000 But I couldn't beat anybody.

02:38:59.000 Not a real player.

02:39:00.000 I was always like a B player.

02:39:02.000 There's like a very big distinction between a B player and an A player.

02:39:04.000 What is the difference in that level jump?

02:39:07.000 Time, time practicing, practice with intention.

02:39:13.000 Like if you watch a guy like Jason Shaw, he's one of the best guys in the world.

02:39:18.000 There's videos of him, Jason with a J-A-Y-S-O-N, Shaw. 1.00

02:39:21.000 He practices and puts videos of his practice sessions on YouTube and on Instagram and he just lines balls up and he shoots the ball and gets position in the next ball and shoots the ball and gets position in the next ball.

02:39:35.000 He just has like a line of balls and he has to place it perfectly to get position on the next ball and maneuver his cue ball around the table.

02:39:42.000 It's like this drill that he does.

02:39:43.000 So instead of just playing, he does specific shots over and over and over and all the best guys do that because that's what separates the guys who are truly elite from guys who are just really good players. 1.00

02:39:55.000 The really good players, they don't practice like this because this shit is fucking boring. 0.99

02:39:59.000 So this guy is making the eight ball on the side. 0.99

02:40:02.000 That's on purpose.

02:40:03.000 Like watch this shot.

02:40:04.000 This is a bank shot where he's gonna bank it off the long rail here, bang, and it'll go right into the side off the cue ball.

02:40:12.000 Wild.

02:40:12.000 Just over and over again.

02:40:13.000 And he can do that shit over and over again. 1.00

02:40:14.000 But he's one of the best players on earth. 1.00

02:40:17.000 You know, there's like a handful of guys that consistently win.

02:40:20.000 Like watch one of these.

02:40:21.000 This is these practice things that he sets.

02:40:23.000 By the way, this guy just broke the world record for the most amount of balls run in straight pool.

02:40:30.000 And it's either in the 600s, depending on one person's, because apparently he touched one of the balls at one point in time, or it's in the 700s because the rules don't state that you can't touch a ball.

02:40:43.000 Like it's only fouls on a cue ball, meaning you can't accidentally touch the cue ball or the cue ball scratch.

02:40:49.000 But what you can do is accidentally brush up against the ball, like say with a fingertip or with your clothing or something like that.

02:40:57.000 Is that glove new?

02:40:57.000 When did that come in?

02:40:58.000 That's been around for a while.

02:41:00.000 They developed these gloves because the thing about a cue in your hand is friction.

02:41:05.000 You don't want to have friction.

02:41:07.000 You want it to glide through your fingers.

02:41:09.000 And the best way for it to glide through your fingers is these pool gloves that they develop.

02:41:14.000 A lot of guys play with him now because it's just more consistent.

02:41:17.000 The whole thing is like consistency.

02:41:19.000 You want like a consistent feel to the cue.

02:41:22.000 You want a consistent feel to the tip.

02:41:25.000 You want a consistent feel the way it slides through your fingers.

02:41:28.000 See how genius this is?

02:41:30.000 Like how he just gets perfect on every ball?

02:41:32.000 Like if you don't play, you don't know how difficult this is.

02:41:35.000 But what this guy's doing is just cue ball wizardry.

02:41:38.000 He just knows exactly where the net is. 0.98

02:41:41.000 He almost fucked up there. 0.99

02:41:41.000 See that? 0.99

02:41:42.000 He knows exactly where the next ball is going to be, and he's going to maneuver his cue ball in place so he can make that shot.

02:41:49.000 And he does this all day long.

02:41:51.000 So this is not the most fun.

02:41:54.000 The most fun thing to do is to play.

02:41:56.000 Now he's going to go in between the rail.

02:41:57.000 Look at that.

02:41:58.000 Ooh, perfect.

02:41:59.000 So the most fun thing to do is play.

02:42:01.000 But if you do this for hours and hours a day, you'll play better.

02:42:04.000 So then when you actually do play, you'll win more.

02:42:07.000 It's just like stand-up and writing.

02:42:09.000 Same thing.

02:42:10.000 Some people just play.

02:42:12.000 Some people practice.

02:42:13.000 Some people just go on stage.

02:42:15.000 Some people write.

02:42:16.000 What's your process?

02:42:17.000 When you do these arena tours and everything, your hour's pretty tight.

02:42:22.000 Are you ready to...

02:42:23.000 Yeah, I'm probably ready to do something.

02:42:24.000 I have to put something on a special soon.

02:42:27.000 But I just, you know, I practice a lot.

02:42:30.000 We're doing a lot of sets in town, doing a lot of sets at the Vulcan, doing a lot of writing.

02:42:34.000 But right now, like, one of the problems with having an hour that's pretty much ready to go is when I release it, then I'm going to have to write a whole new hour.

02:42:43.000 That's where I am right now.

02:42:44.000 I'm starting over.

02:42:45.000 It's tricky.

02:42:45.000 It's fun, though.

02:42:46.000 It's exciting.

02:42:47.000 It's exciting.

02:42:48.000 It's dangerous.

02:42:49.000 It's like you're starting over again.

02:42:50.000 I like having the mental real estate.

02:42:52.000 There's no safety net anymore.

02:42:54.000 It's, alright, do the thing again.

02:42:56.000 Yeah, do it again.

02:42:57.000 You did it before, you'll do it again, and then two years from now, you'll be thinking about filming this, and you'll do it again.

02:43:04.000 That's what we do.

02:43:05.000 It's fun.

02:43:06.000 And also, there's a humility to it, because it makes you a beginner every couple years.

02:43:10.000 Every couple years, you run out of weapons.

02:43:12.000 You have no more weapons.

02:43:13.000 Like, you used to be able to go on stage, and you had comedy weapons, you know?

02:43:16.000 You know, you had like...

02:43:18.000 You had comedy missiles you could launch on that crowd.

02:43:21.000 But also, you kind of care...

02:43:22.000 Whatever you're talking about now, you always care the most about.

02:43:27.000 Because I'm proud of the special and all the bits and stuff that I did, but, like, if I were to do them now, I'm not as invested.

02:43:33.000 It's a snapshot of you...

02:43:35.000 It's almost like looking at a senior photo of yourself or something.

02:43:39.000 It represents an era of your work.

02:43:43.000 It's a little more complex than a senior photo because it's all those thoughts and ideas and the way you deliver them.

02:43:47.000 But it does represent an era of your work.

02:43:52.000 It's just like picking the fruit when it's ripe.

02:43:55.000 Because sometimes you can...

02:43:57.000 It's on the tree for too long. 1.00

02:43:59.000 But that shit ferments. 1.00

02:43:59.000 Yeah, it ferments. 1.00

02:44:01.000 And there is an art and a magic to, like, I'm still invested in this.

02:44:05.000 Let's get some cameras on it.

02:44:06.000 While it's still magical.

02:44:08.000 Because if you wait too long, then you're not as invested anymore. 0.99

02:44:12.000 What the fuck are you doing, Jamie? 1.00

02:44:13.000 Jamie's over there watching porn. 1.00

02:44:15.000 What are you doing? 0.99

02:44:16.000 Oh, there it is again.

02:44:18.000 Yeah, nice.

02:44:19.000 Oh, Tarantino.

02:44:19.000 Yeah, he was there with me.

02:44:21.000 He's a comedy fan.

02:44:22.000 He saw my set.

02:44:23.000 It was so wild, because I'm a huge fan, and he was like, I want to talk to the cool guy.

02:44:28.000 And he was hanging out the whole night.

02:44:30.000 Even after the set, he was kicking it where everyone smokes weed in the back.

02:44:35.000 I had a writing job, so I'm like, this has been great.

02:44:38.000 Thank you so much, man. 1.00

02:44:39.000 Fuck that job, dude. 1.00

02:44:40.000 You're supposed to stay up. 1.00

02:44:41.000 I know.

02:44:42.000 What are you doing?

02:44:42.000 Well, I don't have it anymore.

02:44:44.000 I don't have it anymore.

02:44:45.000 Yeah, but you could have been staying up.

02:44:46.000 Look at that.

02:44:47.000 You're going through the back and everything.

02:44:48.000 That's nice.

02:44:49.000 But it's beautiful because I still was working at the time, but at night, I just knew I had to do this.

02:44:54.000 This was my North Star. 0.97

02:44:55.000 I did that thing by day but there's so many things when you're a comedian like what do I do what's the move and all that and you can get really clouded with what I should do but I'm like make this special just forget about everything else make this and then worry about everything else so I just did the writing job by day I made this thing at night just funneled all my energy into it I'm like make a great piece of art that is you And then figure out that shit later.

02:45:23.000 But for some reason, I don't know if it's the stars aligning or some spirit, it just said, make this thing.

02:45:28.000 And I made it, and yeah.

02:45:31.000 That's awesome.

02:45:32.000 I love stories like that.

02:45:33.000 Thanks, man.

02:45:34.000 I love it.

02:45:35.000 I love the fact that you did it, and you're the first guy to figure out to do it.

02:45:38.000 You're the first comic to figure out to do that hat trick thing.

02:45:40.000 Isn't it so obvious, though?

02:45:42.000 Yeah, but you think about the amount of specials that have been filmed at the Comedy Store, it's really not that many.

02:45:47.000 It's Louis and Ari and who else?

02:45:50.000 Gerard.

02:45:51.000 And who else?

02:45:54.000 Brody.

02:45:54.000 Chappelle in the Belly.

02:45:55.000 Oh, that's right.

02:45:56.000 Chappelle in the Belly Room.

02:45:57.000 Yeah.

02:45:58.000 Which one was that?

02:46:00.000 The Closer?

02:46:01.000 No.

02:46:02.000 Sticks and Stones?

02:46:02.000 No.

02:46:03.000 Oh, right, right, right, right.

02:46:05.000 The one with the weird name.

02:46:06.000 Yes.

02:46:06.000 Yeah.

02:46:07.000 Yeah.

02:46:09.000 It's...

02:46:12.000 There's not that many over the years.

02:46:14.000 I think it was difficult to film there for a while.

02:46:16.000 I think people didn't want you to film there for a while for whatever reason, you know?

02:46:20.000 Yeah, I will take my hat off to Peter Shore because I had the idea and I called it because I couldn't do it without their sign-off, you know, because they're very protective of the name and the building and I call them and I go, I've always had this idea to do this type of special at the store.

02:46:34.000 I was kind of preparing for them to say no because they are pretty hard-lined about It's a magical place, you know?

02:46:40.000 They don't want anyone filming in the OR because it's where we work on our stuff.

02:46:44.000 They're very protective.

02:46:45.000 Because sometimes the Laugh Factory would just release clips of like Chappelle and they didn't want it, you know?

02:46:51.000 They're a little loosey-goosey.

02:46:53.000 The Laugh Factory filmed people and didn't tell them.

02:46:54.000 The Laugh Factory was kind of loosey-goosey with their clips that would go up.

02:46:57.000 And the store has just always been known and had this reputation with comics that, like, you're protected.

02:47:02.000 That's not going to happen.

02:47:03.000 The problem is those clips, like, if you're working on a new bit, now that bit's out there and it's got 10 million views.

02:47:08.000 That, and then it's not done yet.

02:47:09.000 Right.

02:47:09.000 And it's already out in the world.

02:47:11.000 Exactly.

02:47:11.000 So comics didn't like that.

02:47:12.000 Yeah.

02:47:12.000 And the store had always been known for having...

02:47:14.000 It's almost like a yonder bag.

02:47:15.000 Yes.

02:47:15.000 It has a place.

02:47:17.000 Well, you can't do that.

02:47:18.000 Right.

02:47:19.000 It's like...

02:47:20.000 Yeah, but for some people it's good.

02:47:23.000 What do you mean?

02:47:24.000 So for some people when they put their clips up, it's on the Laugh Factory channel and then it helps them.

02:47:28.000 It really depends.

02:47:29.000 If everyone's on the same page, then it's great.

02:47:32.000 That's the only way. 0.96

02:47:32.000 But when it's up and you're like, what the fuck, take it down, that's a problem. 0.96

02:47:37.000 When you think about your career and think about times where you wanted to record and how much... 0.95

02:47:46.000 How much travel you have to do to get to the spot where you're happy with your material.

02:47:50.000 If at any point in time it gets cut off and it gets released, that was one of the things that annoyed me greatly about people's response to Louis C.K.'s leak set.

02:48:00.000 Remember when Louis C.K. had that leak set?

02:48:02.000 He hadn't done stand-up in 10 months?

02:48:03.000 It was funny.

02:48:04.000 It's pretty good.

02:48:05.000 It would have gotten great.

02:48:08.000 You're talking about a guy who didn't do stand-up at all for 10 months, and then this is what he does when he comes back.

02:48:13.000 I mean, he didn't do it at all.

02:48:14.000 And then this is what he does when he comes back.

02:48:17.000 And he was killing.

02:48:18.000 And people say, oh, he lost his heart, he lost his way. 1.00

02:48:22.000 No, he's doing the exact same shit he always did. 1.00

02:48:27.000 The exact same shit. 1.00

02:48:28.000 And when people were criticizing that, I'm like, hey man, you're literally criticizing a baby step. 1.00

02:48:35.000 You're criticizing the first steps of a whole set. 0.99

02:48:38.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:48:39.000 Do you know how to make comedy or not? 1.00

02:48:41.000 Do you know how to make comedy or not? 1.00

02:48:42.000 Well, if you do, then you're a fucking liar and you're pretending that this isn't how it works and that you don't go on stage with some ideas and just fucking swing. 1.00

02:48:51.000 You fail so many more times until it gets more refined. 1.00

02:48:54.000 I will have bigger ideas and maybe it's touchy and I do it and it doesn't go well.

02:49:00.000 So one thing if you criticize someone for a finished product that you don't like.

02:49:03.000 But it's another thing. 0.99

02:49:05.000 When someone's doing a workout set and they're filmed without their knowledge or recorded without their knowledge, come the fuck on. 0.98

02:49:13.000 You know what comedy is. 0.98

02:49:14.000 You know how hard it is to make. 0.99

02:49:16.000 So for you to pretend that this is some indictment on this person's soul, get the fuck out of here. 0.98

02:49:21.000 You're ripping apart a first draft. 0.99

02:49:24.000 It's barely a first draft.

02:49:25.000 It's an idea from that day.

02:49:28.000 And also people, like the Louis set, people were viewing the comedy through a new prism.

02:49:33.000 Yeah.

02:49:34.000 Whereas if none of that had happened and they heard that set, they'd be like, brilliant.

02:49:37.000 He's done it again.

02:49:38.000 Yeah, he's done it again.

02:49:39.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:49:40.000 And unfortunately, we never got to see a lot of those bits evolve.

02:49:43.000 You know, because how long was that set?

02:49:45.000 Do you remember how long that set was?

02:49:46.000 It was like a half hour maybe?

02:49:47.000 Something like that, yeah.

02:49:48.000 I mean, think about it. 0.99

02:49:49.000 He might have got 15 killer fucking minutes of that. 0.99

02:49:51.000 You don't know. 0.99

02:49:52.000 Like, all those great ideas that he had sat on for 10 months while, you know, he was canceled, whatever.

02:50:01.000 It's one of those things, man.

02:50:04.000 I get why people will be upset at certain things.

02:50:07.000 That's not what my problem is.

02:50:09.000 What my problem is is the way people handle stuff and this tendency towards looking at someone through a distorted lens because it benefits you to do that.

02:50:24.000 You know, like choosing to frame things in a way that benefits you.

02:50:28.000 Art is interesting in that way, where people can, they'll look at Louis now and just be like, he's not funny.

02:50:34.000 Because there's all these other, there's other things associated with it.

02:50:38.000 Well, if you are really upset by those things associated with it, and you maybe have had a bad experience, your own with a man, and you just decide, he's not funny to me.

02:50:49.000 That's your prerogative.

02:50:51.000 You are allowed to do that.

02:50:53.000 That's 100%. 0.99

02:50:54.000 You're allowed to listen to or watch whatever the fuck you want for whatever the fuck reason you want. 0.97

02:51:01.000 But when you make an assessment, Of, like, something that is clearly what a guy is just practicing for the first time in ten months. 0.99

02:51:11.000 He's just going on stage and fucking around. 0.88

02:51:12.000 And you're trying to pretend that this is his material that's ready for judgment. 0.99

02:51:16.000 It's not ready for judgment. 0.99

02:51:18.000 He's fucking around. 0.99

02:51:19.000 He's trying to create. 1.00

02:51:20.000 Well, it's just clickbait, though.

02:51:22.000 That's the story to propagate it.

02:51:24.000 Well, it's also like you're signaling to the crowd that you're on the right side and that you're not like him and what he did was bad.

02:51:30.000 And I get that too.

02:51:31.000 I get the need to express your disgust.

02:51:35.000 I get that.

02:51:36.000 But if you're an actual comic and we're talking about stand-up comedy, like to attack that set was like, okay, come on.

02:51:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:52:07.000 Comedy's like that, though.

02:52:09.000 We progress as a society, and the bits I did three or four years ago, I wouldn't do today, maybe because I've grown as a person, and society has evolved, and I'm a different person.

02:52:22.000 But people will hold the standards of today to yesteryear.

02:52:25.000 And that's, like, not entirely fair.

02:52:27.000 Well, it's definitely not fair if you want to go way back, right?

02:52:30.000 I mean, you can go back to, like, the 1960s and 1970s.

02:52:33.000 It'll keep getting trudged up, like that Steve Martin King Tut was making the rounds on the internet.

02:52:37.000 No, it wasn't!

02:52:37.000 It was!

02:52:38.000 Gen Z was like, this is, like, what is he doing? 0.81

02:52:40.000 This is, you know, appropriation, and they're bastardizing.

02:52:44.000 So he was getting taken to task for the King Tut on SNL. They all need to live in the woods for a year. 0.84

02:52:50.000 All of them. 0.98

02:52:51.000 They need to hunt their own food for a year and toughen the fuck up. 1.00

02:52:54.000 Did you notice though, like when COVID hit, when everyone was scared and no one knew what was going on, all of this stuff, it wasn't happening.

02:53:02.000 For about two weeks.

02:53:03.000 Because there was bigger fish to fry.

02:53:05.000 No, but then it accentuated because then people were trapped indoors and all they would do was complain about stuff online.

02:53:10.000 And people that are already addicted to Twitter now didn't have a job.

02:53:13.000 Yeah.

02:53:14.000 So now they're on Twitter all day and they don't have a job.

02:53:16.000 There was a lot of that.

02:53:17.000 When we all thought we were going to die, no one was getting canceled.

02:53:22.000 Because we were worried about, are we going to make it through this thing?

02:53:25.000 Yeah, sure.

02:53:26.000 I mean, that was 9-11, too.

02:53:27.000 After 9-11, everybody was super cool to each other.

02:53:32.000 There's ways of reacting to things that are justifiable and understandable.

02:53:37.000 And then there's also, you're dealing with a certain amount of mental illness in this country.

02:53:41.000 And there's a lot of people that are just filled with anxiety and fear and anger and chaos. 0.99

02:53:47.000 And they're online taking it from other people and giving it to other people and just feeding the fucking monster all day. 0.99

02:53:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:53:54.000 All day. 1.00

02:53:55.000 And it's terrible for the mental health of a giant percentage of the population.

02:54:01.000 Including mine. 0.99

02:54:02.000 That's why I don't fuck with it. 0.99

02:54:04.000 It's like... 0.99

02:54:05.000 I've learned that too.

02:54:06.000 I'm at a point now where I create, I put it out there, I use it as a tool, but I don't do a deep dive into the comments or whatever.

02:54:14.000 Guys, you do go crazy.

02:54:15.000 Well, it's a statistics game.

02:54:17.000 No one is going...

02:54:19.000 Everyone isn't going to like you.

02:54:20.000 That's just a nature of putting yourself out there and being an artist.

02:54:25.000 You're not going to have unanimous fans across the board.

02:54:28.000 And part of being an artist is you are going to have that 50-50 if you're doing your thing, you know?

02:54:34.000 Oh, for sure.

02:54:36.000 You're always going to have that. 1.00

02:54:37.000 But if you concentrate on the negative, you really will think you're a piece of shit. 1.00

02:54:41.000 Even if like a giant percentage of people love you. 1.00

02:54:43.000 It's just not worth it.

02:54:45.000 And I already have that in me.

02:54:46.000 I don't need somebody else.

02:54:48.000 I'm my own troll.

02:54:50.000 I don't need you to...

02:54:51.000 That's also why you're really good.

02:54:52.000 It's because you judge all your stuff very harshly.

02:54:54.000 And you really tighten it up and polish it up.

02:54:58.000 That's a big part of it, man.

02:54:59.000 A big part of it is how you approach the thing.

02:55:02.000 You've got to approach the thing with some honesty.

02:55:04.000 You can't approach the thing and pretend it's better than it is.

02:55:07.000 Yeah.

02:55:07.000 Just because it makes you feel good that you've done something.

02:55:09.000 The worst thing is when you're talking to someone and they want you to believe that something they've done is really good and then when you have to watch it, you gotta go...

02:55:19.000 It's a bummer.

02:55:20.000 You have to be that guy to yourself first before anybody gets a look at it.

02:55:25.000 And then the audience has to decide.

02:55:27.000 I feel like I'm in a quantum state just for as long as I've been doing stand-up.

02:55:31.000 It's like, I think I'm great and I think I'm the worst.

02:55:34.000 I'm both those things.

02:55:36.000 Perfect.

02:55:36.000 Yes.

02:55:37.000 And it flip-flops.

02:55:38.000 But it's been beneficial for me.

02:55:40.000 I kind of like having that.

02:55:42.000 You're in a comedy superposition.

02:55:43.000 Yeah.

02:55:44.000 Yeah, you're in motion and still at the same time.

02:55:46.000 That's what it is.

02:55:47.000 Because you don't believe one or the other entirely.

02:55:50.000 Well, tell everybody the name one more time.

02:55:53.000 It's Hattrick.

02:55:54.000 It's on YouTube right now.

02:55:55.000 It's on my YouTube channel.

02:55:56.000 Is the YouTube channel just Fahim Anwar?

02:55:58.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:55:59.000 And that's who you are on all the social media.

02:56:02.000 Yeah, Twitter, Instagram.

02:56:03.000 What are you most active on?

02:56:04.000 Probably Instagram.

02:56:05.000 Instagram, me too.

02:56:06.000 And I'm trying to get the YouTube going.

02:56:07.000 This special is kind of planting my flag and like this is...

02:56:11.000 This is a nice 47-minute representation of who I am, what I do.

02:56:15.000 Because people would hear that I'm funny on podcasts and stuff, but I never really had a tentpole thing to kind of point people to.

02:56:22.000 And this is kind of nice to be like, this is what I do.

02:56:26.000 This is who I am.

02:56:26.000 That's dope, man.

02:56:27.000 That's dope. 0.93

02:56:28.000 I'm really happy for you.

02:56:29.000 And you're a really funny guy.

02:56:30.000 Thanks, man.

02:56:31.000 You've done a lot for me.

02:56:32.000 I mean, I really appreciate it.

02:56:33.000 My pleasure, brother.

02:56:34.000 My pleasure. 0.94

02:56:34.000 It's cool to see you blow up. 0.94

02:56:35.000 Thanks, man.

02:56:36.000 All right.

02:56:37.000 That's it.

02:56:38.000 Bye, everybody.

02:56:38.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - May 31, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1826 - Fahim Anwar

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