The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano

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00:00:15.000 Oh my goodness.

00:00:17.000 What if I don't have anything to say?

00:00:19.000 You do, I guarantee you do.

00:00:20.000 How did you avoid doing podcasts for this long?

00:00:23.000 Just saying no.

00:00:24.000 Really?

00:00:24.000 I just tell people I kind of just don't know what's ever going to come out of my mouth.

00:00:28.000 So it's going to get...

00:00:30.000 I have no idea what we're going to talk about today.

00:00:32.000 Well, that's good.

00:00:33.000 It's always better that way.

00:00:34.000 I mean, we can talk about anything.

00:00:36.000 We can talk about...

00:00:37.000 Well, there was a moment where you were going to come back.

00:00:41.000 You're the OG. Oh.

00:00:44.000 Well, I mean...

00:00:46.000 No, you're the OG. Thank you.

00:00:48.000 In terms of women's MMA, who the fuck is more OG than you? 1.00

00:00:53.000 You're the original star. 0.98

00:00:54.000 Well, not MMA, but like Lucia Ryker. 0.67

00:00:57.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:00:58.000 And Muay Thai, yeah.

00:00:59.000 And in boxing, yeah.

00:01:01.000 And then there's Christy Martin and a lot of other folks.

00:01:04.000 And then there was the Debbie Purcells and Aaron- Anne Wolf.

00:01:09.000 There's been a lot of women combat sports athletes, but in terms of MMA, you're the OG. Well, I appreciate that coming from you. 0.99

00:01:17.000 That means a lot.

00:01:17.000 What was it like back then?

00:01:20.000 Because you were the OG when it was weird to be fighting, and it was weird to be fighting as a woman. 0.99

00:01:24.000 Yeah.

00:01:25.000 It was just, you would go into the gym, and it was just, well, we started at Master Totties, so there was a couple girls there that really liked to fight, but they liked to more look good and the attention that fighting came from.

00:01:39.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:40.000 Yeah.

00:01:41.000 It wasn't all about the fight.

00:01:43.000 There's a lot of that now, right?

00:01:44.000 Now it's like that.

00:01:46.000 But it was like that then, too.

00:01:49.000 I don't know, a lot of the...

00:01:51.000 What's her name?

00:01:52.000 Aaron...

00:01:53.000 God.

00:01:54.000 Is Debbie Purcell and Aaron something?

00:01:56.000 Aaron Tohil.

00:01:57.000 Yes.

00:01:57.000 Tohil.

00:01:58.000 So they were actually the people, I would say, that started way before...

00:02:01.000 Yeah, Aaron, she's been around a long time.

00:02:04.000 And Cyborg was doing it as well.

00:02:07.000 Tyra LaRosa.

00:02:08.000 Tara LaRosa.

00:02:11.000 Old school.

00:02:12.000 Yeah.

00:02:12.000 I know.

00:02:13.000 The early days.

00:02:14.000 We're old.

00:02:15.000 Yeah, we're old.

00:02:16.000 But the early days were interesting because there was a lot of people disparaging women fighting. 1.00

00:02:22.000 Yeah.

00:02:23.000 Including Dana White.

00:02:25.000 Yeah.

00:02:26.000 Including most of the guys I trained with, which I love them.

00:02:29.000 But even Mark Beecher, he was like, no, get out of here.

00:02:31.000 I'm not going to train any women. 1.00

00:02:33.000 I'll train you, Gina.

00:02:33.000 Okay, fine.

00:02:34.000 It'll be cool.

00:02:35.000 And now that's all he does.

00:02:38.000 You know, even, let's say, the Diaz boys.

00:02:40.000 Like, I remember fighting on the same card as Nick Diaz.

00:02:44.000 And he was sitting next to me.

00:02:45.000 And, of course, I was just nervous because I absolutely adored him.

00:02:49.000 Still do.

00:02:50.000 I think he's amazing.

00:02:51.000 I just haven't seen him in, like, a decade.

00:02:53.000 But he was like, you know, we're sitting there before our fight having our post, you know, weigh-in dinner.

00:02:58.000 And he was like, you know, I gotta tell you, I don't really like women fighting. 0.99

00:03:03.000 You can obviously say it like that.

00:03:04.000 He's like, you know, I don't like what you do.

00:03:06.000 I don't like women fighting. 1.00

00:03:07.000 And I was like...

00:03:08.000 I was like, that's okay.

00:03:10.000 Maybe you're just a little old-fashioned.

00:03:12.000 And I was like, do you think my dad likes this?

00:03:14.000 Do you think anybody in my family likes me fighting?

00:03:16.000 And he was like, no, old-fashioned.

00:03:19.000 Okay, so I'm just old-fashioned?

00:03:21.000 And I'm like, yeah, you just might be a little old-fashioned.

00:03:23.000 And then he was pulling out my chair and opening my door.

00:03:26.000 He took it to the next level.

00:03:27.000 Yeah, he was so sweet.

00:03:29.000 I was like, he just needed to be told it's okay.

00:03:31.000 You don't have to like it.

00:03:32.000 It's old-fashioned.

00:03:34.000 Yeah, some people get disturbed watching women get bloodied up.

00:03:39.000 That's a big one for some folks.

00:03:40.000 Yeah.

00:03:41.000 Was it a thing for you?

00:03:42.000 It feels different.

00:03:44.000 Obviously, I'm a big fan of women fighting. 1.00

00:03:48.000 But when I watch a big cut on a woman, it feels different. 0.89

00:03:52.000 Like if I was like Yuri Prochaska in that fight with Glover Teixeira had this giant cut over his eyebrow.

00:03:56.000 It was a massive cut.

00:03:58.000 But it didn't bother me.

00:03:59.000 But if that was you, if it was a woman, it was Valentina Shevchenko or something like that, I'd be like, Jesus, that's a big cut. 0.52

00:04:06.000 And honestly, in my perspective, that's sweet.

00:04:11.000 That's nice.

00:04:13.000 That's nice that you don't like to see women get cut out. 1.00

00:04:14.000 Yeah, I think that's a really nice...

00:04:16.000 I don't know why women or anybody is trying to get rid of that. 1.00

00:04:20.000 Well, I get it.

00:04:22.000 But I mean, look, if you're going to land elbows, it is a part of the sport.

00:04:26.000 You're going to get cut up.

00:04:27.000 It's like people are going to get cut.

00:04:29.000 It's just part of the game.

00:04:31.000 But, you know, if you want to say, like, here's a good example.

00:04:36.000 Like the last UFC where it was Zhang Weili versus Ioannion Jacek and then Valentina Shevchenko versus Jesus Christ.

00:04:49.000 Why am I not remembering her name?

00:04:52.000 Is it the Chinese girl? 0.95

00:04:54.000 No, no, no.

00:04:55.000 Valentina Shevchenko had a really tough fight. 0.99

00:04:57.000 Talia Santos.

00:05:00.000 Which was an amazing fight.

00:05:01.000 Split decision.

00:05:02.000 Which could have gone either way. 0.99

00:05:04.000 And a lot of people were like, oh, this card sucks.

00:05:07.000 I'm like, because of those two fights? 0.89

00:05:09.000 You think the card sucks because two super ultra-competitive women fights that were insane and one of them was a spinning back fist knockout? 1.00

00:05:16.000 Do you have a problem with that? 0.93

00:05:18.000 Yeah, right?

00:05:19.000 I don't understand where people get off on the internet judging.

00:05:23.000 When I'm in a building or at a fight when people are booing, it boils my blood.

00:05:29.000 It's like, you get in there and do that.

00:05:32.000 Until you've done that, then you can talk about it.

00:05:34.000 It's just like, do you boo like that at baseball?

00:05:36.000 Because baseball, at its most exciting, is not as exciting as two people clinching.

00:05:41.000 Yeah, maybe the fight fans just need to get a couple more, I don't know, hot dogs or beers and just sit back and enjoy a little bit.

00:05:47.000 Well, it's casuals, unfortunately.

00:05:50.000 It's a lot of people that don't appreciate what's going on or how hard it is.

00:05:54.000 Look, I can understand some fights where people get bored and they boo, especially in comparison to some other fights.

00:06:05.000 I'm never gonna be the one booing.

00:06:06.000 No.

00:06:07.000 I wouldn't boo either, but, you know, there's some times where it's just like, oh, Jesus Christ.

00:06:14.000 And you're at all of them, so...

00:06:16.000 I'm out of a lot of them.

00:06:17.000 This past one was the first one I did.

00:06:19.000 What do you think happens there, like, with, like, the, you know, when they're just, you know, nobody's trying to even, like, make, they're just stuttering in front of each other.

00:06:27.000 Like the Rose Nam Yunus fight?

00:06:28.000 Like that last fight?

00:06:29.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 Which I love her, by the way.

00:06:31.000 I do, too.

00:06:32.000 Yeah, I do too.

00:06:34.000 I love Carla Esparza too.

00:06:36.000 I don't get it.

00:06:38.000 I don't know.

00:06:41.000 I'm a big fan of Pat Berry.

00:06:43.000 I love him.

00:06:44.000 But he was saying something different than the rest of the corner was saying.

00:06:51.000 It's like kind of when you're going to spar and then you just don't really want to be there or something and you're not trying to, I don't know, it just isn't flowing the chemistries off or something.

00:06:59.000 I think maybe the game plan was make Karla frustrated and take big risks. 1.00

00:07:06.000 Because she has to win, right?

00:07:08.000 She has to go after Rose to win. 0.96

00:07:10.000 But there was like, by the time we were in like round three, I was having this conversation with Cormier. 0.92

00:07:15.000 I was like, who fucking knows who won? 0.81

00:07:17.000 Who knows who's winning this? 0.98

00:07:20.000 Because this is, nothing's happening.

00:07:21.000 Like it's, when nothing's happening, this is my number one problem with scoring.

00:07:26.000 The way we have scoring with MMA. Either one of those rounds could be a 10-9 round or a round where someone beats someone pretty cleanly and lands a lot of shots could also be a 10-9 round.

00:07:38.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:07:40.000 That's a flaw in the scoring system.

00:07:43.000 Time to update the program.

00:07:45.000 Yeah, we need a better system.

00:07:46.000 We don't need a boxing system.

00:07:48.000 We need something that shouldn't have anything to do with 10-9.

00:07:53.000 There should be a bunch of factors, like volume, the amount of strikes, submissions, takedowns, all the damage, all that shit added up, and it should be a totally different...

00:08:04.000 I mean, we should have scores like 57, 96 for one round, 120 for another round, that kind of shit.

00:08:12.000 Because that's more indicative of what's actually happening in a fight than 10-9. 0.89

00:08:16.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

00:08:18.000 That's how it should be.

00:08:19.000 So make it happen.

00:08:19.000 How do we make that happen?

00:08:20.000 Jesus Christ, I don't know.

00:08:21.000 I've been preaching this for years and everyone's like, bro, they already have fixed the system.

00:08:26.000 Bro, you don't understand the system.

00:08:28.000 Like, I understand the system as it stands. 1.00

00:08:30.000 What I'm saying is the system as it stands fucking sucks. 0.99

00:08:33.000 Yeah, we can say that over a multitude of subjects as well. 0.99

00:08:38.000 We need to get better systems.

00:08:41.000 Yeah, not just for MMA, right?

00:08:42.000 It's interesting though, for you to watch these women become superstars now, like when you watch Rhonda, because Rhonda was, it was you and then it was Rhonda, and you most certainly paved the way for someone like Rhonda.

00:08:59.000 What was that like?

00:09:01.000 Um, I don't know.

00:09:03.000 For me, at the time, it was just, okay, so this, I was going to a college for psychology.

00:09:10.000 And I'd show up to, you know, the college classes in full-on pajamas.

00:09:13.000 I didn't care.

00:09:14.000 I wasn't paying attention.

00:09:15.000 I didn't want to be there.

00:09:16.000 I just, I felt like this is the thing you do after high school, right?

00:09:19.000 You go to college and...

00:09:21.000 I don't really think that it did me any favors because I'm a type of person that, you know, like idle hands.

00:09:27.000 If I'm not interested in doing this, then I'll get into trouble.

00:09:31.000 And so then we started getting into trouble.

00:09:34.000 And I guess what happened was Kevin Ross, who you had on your show, and I've known him for 21 years now.

00:09:43.000 We're like that couple that's always on and off and everybody's like, my family just stopped asking.

00:09:47.000 They're Like, are you together now, this Christmas?

00:09:51.000 So he decided one night to, he'd always wanted to do mixed martial arts, and he always loved Bruce Lee.

00:10:00.000 And we were drinking, of course, these 40 ounces of Old English, which, I don't know if you tried one lately.

00:10:05.000 Old English makes you reckless. 1.00

00:10:07.000 And it's just like, this much of it hurts.

00:10:10.000 Yeah.

00:10:10.000 We used to drink full.

00:10:12.000 I used to get to like a one and a half.

00:10:14.000 That is strong stuff.

00:10:15.000 Yeah.

00:10:16.000 I tried it and I was like, I cannot believe I used to drink this poison.

00:10:20.000 But his dad had asked him, you know, well, I'll sponsor you for your first couple lessons if you promise me to put that down.

00:10:28.000 And that night, he put it down and he went and started training with a guy called Master Toddy.

00:10:34.000 He's this Thai man who, of course, came from Thailand, but he went over to the UK, taught over there, and then he came to the States and taught people like Angela Parr and John Wayne Parr, who came before me as well,

00:10:50.000 Kit Cope and all of them.

00:10:53.000 And Kevin walked into the right gym and learned Muay Thai from the very authentic Thai style.

00:11:00.000 And then I would go in there.

00:11:03.000 And Master Chan, who I think is still in Las Vegas, I would walk in and I'm still drinking and partying and everything. 0.95

00:11:10.000 He was like, oh baby, you're fat.

00:11:12.000 You need to lose weight. 0.85

00:11:14.000 And I was like...

00:11:15.000 No, that didn't come from my dad.

00:11:17.000 That came from this Thai man that has nothing to gain in my life but to be like, hey, you need to work out. 1.00

00:11:24.000 And so I immediately signed up for 20 lessons with him.

00:11:28.000 So he fat shamed you in your training.

00:11:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:31.000 I don't know if you know this.

00:11:32.000 Thais are really good at that. 1.00

00:11:34.000 Are they really?

00:11:35.000 Yeah, I probably need Master Chan back in my life right now.

00:11:38.000 If I'm being really honest, he's probably like, oh baby, baby, get back into training.

00:11:43.000 They're so friendly though.

00:11:44.000 I wouldn't think that Thai people would be that... 1.00

00:11:46.000 Have you been to Thailand?

00:11:47.000 Yes!

00:11:48.000 I enjoyed it over there.

00:11:49.000 They're always like, the first two weeks of training sucks so bad because they're like, oh, too big, too big.

00:11:57.000 You need to go down. 1.00

00:11:59.000 And I'm like, I usually lose about like 20 pounds the first two weeks just because I'm like, shit, this fat shaming just sucks. 0.99

00:12:06.000 But I grew up in my family where, like, I walked in and, you know, my grandmother, my grandmama Maxine, she'd be like, honey, no, you can't look like that on TV. You have to, you know, because she comes from classical days. 0.99

00:12:21.000 She's like, no, you need to, you know, get in the gym and make sure that your face is good and da-da-da. 0.89

00:12:26.000 So my family doesn't pull any punches either, and I'm okay with that.

00:12:31.000 Like, I think it's, you know, people around you telling you the truth.

00:12:34.000 Trying to make you better in life, which is my entire family, every single one of them.

00:12:40.000 Yeah, it's a weird time today where you're not supposed to do that anymore.

00:12:44.000 Nobody's stopping on me.

00:12:46.000 They want you to preserve people's feelings now, but...

00:12:51.000 There's, like, fat shaming only works if you feel bad.

00:12:56.000 If you feel bad if you do it?

00:12:58.000 No, if the person feels bad.

00:13:00.000 Like, you can't fat shame me.

00:13:02.000 Yeah.

00:13:02.000 You know, I'd be like, oh, I'm fat?

00:13:03.000 Okay.

00:13:04.000 It's not going to work.

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:05.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 Like, if you have an issue with your weight and someone tries to fat shame you, then it works.

00:13:10.000 Yeah, well, I mean, obviously, like, it's, like, not a great feeling, but it is a necessary...

00:13:16.000 You know somebody cares about you when they're like, hey, you know, like, okay, hey, you're doing this in your life, and it's probably not benefiting you.

00:13:26.000 Like, how can I help you?

00:13:28.000 You know, and in my family, the Italian part of my family is just, like, it's funny, because you walk into, like, Thanksgiving, and they're like, okay, you're five pounds up. 1.00

00:13:36.000 Way to go.

00:13:37.000 You're going to stay away from the mushroom raviolis this time?

00:13:39.000 And I'm like, why do you have four different types of bread on the table?

00:13:42.000 This is your fault.

00:13:44.000 Well, people do it because they care about you sometimes, but sometimes they do it just because it's a place to be cruel.

00:13:52.000 Well, I don't care about those people.

00:13:55.000 Oh, that's good.

00:13:57.000 That's the internet.

00:13:58.000 That's a lot of the internet.

00:13:59.000 That's the entire Twitter.

00:14:01.000 That's a lot of it.

00:14:02.000 It's super unhealthy for them, too.

00:14:04.000 They don't even realize it.

00:14:05.000 They're spitting out all this emotional poison.

00:14:08.000 They're doing it all day long.

00:14:10.000 That's not good.

00:14:11.000 It's not good for you, either.

00:14:12.000 You can't feel good about yourself just being mean to people all day.

00:14:15.000 Yeah, but that says more about them than it does about you.

00:14:20.000 Yeah, it does.

00:14:22.000 And, you know, look, people talk like that all the time.

00:14:25.000 The difference is it seems different when it's written down. 0.99

00:14:28.000 You know, like if you just had people alone in a barbershop, they would just be talking shit and insulting people. 0.99

00:14:34.000 Yes, which is great. 0.98

00:14:35.000 But now it's written down.

00:14:36.000 Yeah.

00:14:37.000 That's the difference.

00:14:38.000 Louis C.K. said that to me once.

00:14:39.000 And when he said it, I was like, oh, now I thought about it differently.

00:14:43.000 He goes, it's just talk.

00:14:44.000 People always talk like that.

00:14:46.000 But now it's written down.

00:14:47.000 It looks different when you read it.

00:14:49.000 And it's so not how people really are in person.

00:14:53.000 I just did a Dallas Fan Expo for three days and there was not one person in that whole Expo that said one thing negative, hateful, there was no...

00:15:03.000 Isn't that weird?

00:15:03.000 Yeah.

00:15:05.000 Meet people in real life, they're almost always nice.

00:15:08.000 I feel like people are so beaten down right now from the internet, from thinking that this is how people are, that they're just beaten down and then they get out and I'm just hugging as many people as possible.

00:15:23.000 I'm shaking their hands.

00:15:24.000 I wish I had more time than that for, you know, those couple, three minutes with them because...

00:15:29.000 You know, I'm not necessarily an extrovert.

00:15:31.000 It's not like I want to be out there and talking to a bunch of people, but I feel like that's what people need right now.

00:15:35.000 And I love doing it.

00:15:38.000 So I've got like four more fan expos this year that they're tiring and you have to keep your energy up for each different person.

00:15:45.000 But I just think out of all the years I'm going to do this, it's going to be this year.

00:15:49.000 So I can look people in the face and let them know that this isn't real life over here on the internet.

00:15:54.000 This is real life.

00:15:55.000 Yeah.

00:15:55.000 For fighters, it's particularly hard, I think, because fighting is such an emotional endeavor.

00:16:04.000 You expose your soul to people.

00:16:08.000 They see you quit, or they see you succeed when you could have quit.

00:16:12.000 They see how hard you train.

00:16:15.000 They see how well you deal with the pressure of the big moment of a huge fight.

00:16:21.000 It is so emotional.

00:16:22.000 So when people attack fighters, and a lot of these people are unaccomplished, uneducated, uncaring.

00:16:31.000 They don't understand what they're doing with their words when they're using them.

00:16:36.000 It's just like verbal diarrhea on Twitter, and they're doing it to try to be insulting and mean. 0.99

00:16:41.000 And I watch fighters go back and forth with them, and I always tell them, hey man, don't read that shit. 1.00

00:16:47.000 Don't read that shit, and definitely don't fucking respond. 1.00

00:16:49.000 Yeah, I learned that a little bit late. 1.00

00:16:51.000 Don't respond.

00:16:52.000 Yeah, don't go back and forth with people.

00:16:54.000 It's bad for you.

00:16:55.000 Although, so you're not on Twitter very much, are you?

00:16:57.000 I post and ghost. 0.99

00:16:59.000 I post and I get the fuck out of there. 0.97

00:17:00.000 I don't read anything. 0.96

00:17:01.000 I read Twitter, but I read other stuff.

00:17:04.000 But you also have this platform where you can have people be drawn to and to hear your actual voice, which is really nice.

00:17:12.000 That helps a lot.

00:17:13.000 That helps a lot because that's the real you versus the characterizations, caricatures.

00:17:21.000 They'll make a version of you that's not real, and then they'll attack that version.

00:17:26.000 People love to do that.

00:17:27.000 They love to take things out of context.

00:17:28.000 They love to pretend you're someone you're not.

00:17:30.000 I have Patricia Arquette.

00:17:32.000 You know who that is?

00:17:33.000 Sure.

00:17:33.000 She's coming at me on Twitter right now.

00:17:35.000 For what?

00:17:35.000 She is?

00:17:36.000 The actress?

00:17:37.000 Yes, who I absolutely look up to.

00:17:41.000 She did a recent film, I think it was on Apple, called Severance, which is the microchip in the brain.

00:17:48.000 Really cool series.

00:17:50.000 And of course, True Romance was one of my favorite movies to this day.

00:17:54.000 And she's coming after me, so I had posted an article about if there's any time to stand up, it's right now.

00:18:01.000 If there's any time to get canceled for something or stand up or have there be some sort of controversy, it's like, right now, standing up for our constitutional rights, I feel like that's a good time to stand.

00:18:10.000 Yeah.

00:18:11.000 And she got on there and said, she said, they wouldn't know about their constitutional rights or something if it slapped them or smacked them in the face.

00:18:20.000 And I was like, what?

00:18:22.000 Like... 1.00

00:18:24.000 And so I responded to it and I said, they, meaning, are you saying they are stupid? 1.00

00:18:29.000 Are you calling half or more than half the country stupid? 1.00

00:18:32.000 They don't know about their constitutional rights because all you read right here is Fox News. 0.99

00:18:36.000 And then she went into this massive spiel about like the January 6th and everything, which had nothing to do with the article.

00:18:42.000 What was the article about?

00:18:43.000 It was just about me talking about the cancel culture and how the mob came after me.

00:18:49.000 It had nothing to do about the election or nothing to do about January 6th.

00:18:54.000 How did constitutional rights get factored into that?

00:18:56.000 Just how I've been kind of very...

00:18:59.000 I guess anti-lockdown, anti-forcing people to vaccinate, forcing people to mask.

00:19:05.000 I've been very vocal about that.

00:19:07.000 I guess vocal by being on Twitter and sharing quotes and things like that.

00:19:11.000 I feel like we've lost a lot of our rights by this fear-mongering and overreach of government.

00:19:21.000 So I don't know.

00:19:22.000 Yeah.

00:19:23.000 Well, no, I think you're right about that.

00:19:25.000 And I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that.

00:19:28.000 I think it's an important thing to say.

00:19:30.000 And I was saying it early.

00:19:32.000 You were saying it boldly.

00:19:34.000 Early.

00:19:34.000 You were saying it when people were scared.

00:19:36.000 And that's one of the things that happened is that everybody got separated from everybody.

00:19:36.000 Yeah.

00:19:42.000 It was an incredibly anxious time.

00:19:45.000 So many people are so filled with anxiety already.

00:19:47.000 And then you take something like a deadly disease where you have to be locked in your house and then they're going to keep you from working.

00:19:54.000 So a lot of people are in full panic because they're going to lose their business.

00:19:58.000 How many people are out there check to check?

00:20:00.000 Most of America.

00:20:01.000 And then all of a sudden you can't go to work?

00:20:03.000 Hmm.

00:20:04.000 And you don't know what to do, and then something comes along, and it's a vaccine, and this vaccine, if you take it, they'll let you go back to work. 0.99

00:20:13.000 And you better fucking take it! 0.99

00:20:14.000 And everybody gets crazy. 1.00

00:20:15.000 Fucking take it! 0.99

00:20:16.000 We need to get back to work! 1.00

00:20:17.000 We need to get back to work!

00:20:18.000 No critical thinking about, hey, Are we sure that this is the only way to do this?

00:20:24.000 Hey, is this a one-size-fits-all strategy for everybody?

00:20:27.000 And when have we ever employed one of those?

00:20:29.000 Like, hey, what's the actual scientific data on this medicine?

00:20:34.000 Do you have any long-term studies?

00:20:38.000 No, you don't.

00:20:39.000 When do you want to release this stuff?

00:20:41.000 You want to release the studies in 70 years? 0.99

00:20:43.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:20:45.000 You want to release all the results after everyone's dead? 1.00

00:20:48.000 That seems a little suspicious.

00:20:51.000 What I think a lot of us feel, I don't know if you feel the same, but for me, I had two grandfathers start a business from scratch and made pretty good names for themselves.

00:21:02.000 And I've seen big businesses run up close and personal.

00:21:06.000 I find it really hard to believe that the people that shut us down, some of the most intelligent people, far more intelligent than I could ever imagine, didn't know by taking people's jobs away from them, taking their consistency, taking their livelihoods and saying,

00:21:23.000 okay, we're going to pay you and keep you home.

00:21:25.000 Wasn't going to affect people's addictions.

00:21:28.000 Wasn't going to affect people's suicide's purpose.

00:21:32.000 Because I'm my best self when I'm working.

00:21:35.000 When I'm working, my diet is under control.

00:21:39.000 I'm working out.

00:21:40.000 I have constant interaction with people.

00:21:44.000 You're not partying all the time.

00:21:46.000 It's just structured.

00:21:49.000 Some of us need structure.

00:21:50.000 Most of us do.

00:21:51.000 I think it's probably a very small amount of people that Right now, what I'm doing is I have to provide my own work.

00:22:00.000 But I've also now got 30 years of learning how to do this now.

00:22:04.000 But when you take a bus driver, when you take somebody who's been doing a job for 25 years, And you take that away from them, and you put them at home, and now all of a sudden they're faced with their families, and they're faced with themselves, and it's like a responsibility that you just took away their structure.

00:22:21.000 So I just really find it hard to believe that this wasn't on purpose.

00:22:25.000 I don't think it was on purpose.

00:22:26.000 I think you're dealing with Monday morning quarterbacking, and I think people are looking at it and going, how did they not know this, and how did they not know that?

00:22:34.000 What do you mean by Monday morning quarterbacking?

00:22:36.000 Like pretending you would have done things differently because you would have been smarter on Sunday.

00:22:42.000 Like you would have seen it coming and you would have done this.

00:22:45.000 I think you're giving these people way too much credit.

00:22:48.000 Smart people don't want to be in government. 0.72

00:22:51.000 Smart people want to be CEOs of giant companies that make shitloads of cash.

00:22:56.000 Corrupt people who use government to funnel money into their own accounts, whether it's through these giant fees they get paid in these speaking engagements, or whether it's through insider trading, because they know about laws and bills that are going to be passed that are going to affect the stock market,

00:23:13.000 and so they get in early.

00:23:15.000 We know about these people.

00:23:17.000 Like Nancy Pelosi.

00:23:18.000 Exactly.

00:23:18.000 We talk about her all the time on this podcast.

00:23:20.000 How crazy that is.

00:23:21.000 She's the greatest investor of all time.

00:23:23.000 Do you know that she's better than George Soros and Warren Buffet?

00:23:26.000 And nobody can talk about this?

00:23:28.000 I mean, how is this not a bigger deal?

00:23:30.000 It's corruption.

00:23:32.000 It's sanctified corruption.

00:23:35.000 Sanctioned corruption.

00:23:37.000 I just really do feel, I feel like this wasn't...

00:23:39.000 I don't think they knew.

00:23:41.000 I think they were in a panic, and I think they shut everyone down, and I think they like controlling people and telling people what to do, and they didn't want to give up control.

00:23:49.000 But I think some states... 0.99

00:23:51.000 We're like, fuck that. 1.00

00:23:52.000 Get back to work. 1.00

00:23:53.000 We need to live.

00:23:54.000 We need to give people the freedom.

00:23:55.000 And this is why people celebrated Ron DeSantis in Florida.

00:23:58.000 This is why people celebrated Greg Abbott in Texas.

00:24:00.000 That's why I moved here.

00:24:01.000 I don't want anybody telling me what to do.

00:24:04.000 This is a pandemic, right? 0.99

00:24:06.000 But it's not a pandemic like fucking smallpox. 0.99

00:24:09.000 This is a different thing. 1.00

00:24:10.000 This is not the Spanish flu that's going to kill 50 fucking million people in this country. 0.98

00:24:14.000 So when I was thinking about pandemic, right, I'd just gotten... 0.99

00:24:14.000 I know. 0.99

00:24:17.000 We wrapped on Mandalorian Season 2. We wrapped like four days before they decided to lock everybody down.

00:24:25.000 And by the way, I was a complete lunatic.

00:24:28.000 I was like, a pandemic? 0.68

00:24:30.000 I was like, oh my gosh, people are going to get boils on their skin and their arms are going to start falling off.

00:24:37.000 People were worried.

00:24:38.000 My idea of what pandemic meant was so much different than what it ended up being.

00:24:43.000 Because everybody's idea was different.

00:24:45.000 Look, when people first started, first of all, there was a lot of things that happened early on.

00:24:49.000 One of the things, they put people on ventilators very early.

00:24:52.000 Ventilators, 80% of the people that got put on ventilators died.

00:24:56.000 And my friend who's a doctor said a lot of those people survived.

00:25:00.000 A lot of them.

00:25:01.000 It became like a death sentence to go into the hospital.

00:25:04.000 But that's also Monday morning quarterbacking because they thought these people's respiratory systems were going to shut down.

00:25:10.000 No one knew how bad it was in the early days.

00:25:13.000 It took a long time.

00:25:14.000 They were silencing people.

00:25:15.000 I know, they were silencing people because there's so many voices.

00:25:19.000 But they were silencing anybody that was saying, hey, this medication could be better, and they're still silencing people.

00:25:25.000 That's why it feels so on purpose.

00:25:26.000 It's like the silencing coupled with the obvious benefits that some of them are succeeding in all of what they're doing.

00:25:36.000 How many government officials became millionaires here?

00:25:40.000 Billionaires.

00:25:41.000 I don't know how many government officials became billionaires, but a lot of humans that were connected to the government and connected to the decisions that were made did become billionaires.

00:25:51.000 Everybody's husbands, that works for them. 1.00

00:25:53.000 Well, it's also just like a lot of people that were working in these pharmaceutical companies that produced these vaccines, they made enormous amounts of profit.

00:26:01.000 And they were protected.

00:26:02.000 This is the most important part.

00:26:04.000 They were protected from liability, which is nuts.

00:26:09.000 But that's the only way they were willing to do this, the way they did it.

00:26:14.000 I'm glad that I don't agree with you on everything because I do feel like it was so on purpose.

00:26:17.000 I don't think it's on purpose.

00:26:18.000 I don't think they would release a virus that kills millions of people on purpose.

00:26:24.000 I don't think that they would crush the economy on purpose.

00:26:28.000 I think there was a lot of poor decision making that was done.

00:26:31.000 First of all, a lot of it was done with the idea that it has to seem like you're doing something because you are in government and you are a person that's in charge.

00:26:42.000 I hope you're right.

00:26:43.000 I'm pretty sure I'm right about that. 1.00

00:26:45.000 I think there's a lot of people that get all tinfoily hattie on that kind of shit. 1.00

00:26:50.000 Well, underneath here. 1.00

00:26:52.000 I just don't see how these intelligent people didn't know that this was going to happen.

00:27:03.000 I just don't see how they didn't know there was going to be a mental health crisis.

00:27:06.000 I don't think they're that intelligent.

00:27:07.000 And I don't think they thought it was going to last this long.

00:27:10.000 It was two weeks to stop the spread.

00:27:13.000 It does completely change.

00:27:14.000 Two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:27:15.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 Remember that?

00:27:16.000 Which was ever going to be just two weeks.

00:27:18.000 If everybody stayed home and did absolutely nothing for two weeks, it probably could have been.

00:27:23.000 You know, Lorenzo Fertitta was the first person, or it's Frank.

00:27:26.000 Frank Fertitta was the first person to suggest that.

00:27:28.000 You know what he said? 0.99

00:27:29.000 He said, listen, let's shut the fucking country down for one month. 0.99

00:27:33.000 Nobody does anything for one month. 1.00

00:27:35.000 He goes, let's just pull the fucking band-aid off. 0.98

00:27:38.000 And he was right, if everybody really did that. 0.99

00:27:40.000 The problem is nobody does that.

00:27:42.000 You go over to your friend's house, you start drinking, you're hanging out.

00:27:45.000 One buddy likes to go to the store, he goes to the store, he talks to the grocer, the grocer's got COVID. You come home, you give it to grandma, grandma dies.

00:27:52.000 It's like, that's the reality of people.

00:27:54.000 They go around, they do different things, and that's why people are like, Wear a mask!

00:27:58.000 They're screaming like you're gonna stop this.

00:27:58.000 Stay at home!

00:28:00.000 But you gotta look at humans for what they actually are.

00:28:02.000 We are these animals that like to be around each other.

00:28:07.000 We're very tribal.

00:28:09.000 We need each other's company. 0.98

00:28:10.000 And we go fucking crazy when we don't have each other's company. 0.96

00:28:12.000 Well, I thought when they had the lockdowns, I thought there was gonna be riots on the street just because of the lockdowns. 0.96

00:28:18.000 I thought there was gonna be people around the street like, no, you can't lock us down. 0.99

00:28:21.000 I thought just because, I guess, you know, Because if the world was like you, you'd be like, fuck this. 0.99

00:28:26.000 I'm going out. 1.00

00:28:27.000 Well, no.

00:28:28.000 I'm actually the most homebody person ever.

00:28:30.000 I mean, I could stay in my house for three months and not see a soul and be just fine.

00:28:33.000 Right, but you're not the type of person that wants anybody telling you what to do.

00:28:36.000 I just don't...

00:28:37.000 I looked at it... 0.94

00:28:39.000 The first two weeks, I was a lunatic. 0.65

00:28:39.000 So, let me... 0.65

00:28:42.000 I was a California COVID Karen to the max.

00:28:46.000 I was so stressed out.

00:28:47.000 I was like, Mom!

00:28:48.000 Because she was in Las Vegas.

00:28:49.000 I was like, I don't think you're taking this seriously enough.

00:28:51.000 And she's like, darling, it's going to be okay.

00:28:52.000 And I'm like...

00:28:54.000 I packed up all my stuff, because I didn't know if we were going to get stuck in California.

00:28:58.000 I didn't want to get stuck away from my family, so I packed up all my stuff, I headed to Las Vegas, I stayed with my mom, and every time she came in the door I was like, wipe your shoes!

00:29:08.000 Jesus Christ.

00:29:09.000 I was a lunatic, yeah, because I was scared. 0.65

00:29:11.000 I didn't know what a pandemic was. 0.80

00:29:13.000 And then my stepdad would go out and I'm like, here's your mask, here's your mask.

00:29:17.000 And I was wiping down all the groceries and then I got so crazy into it that I was like, I got like a toolbox out of the garage and I was like, I just snapped.

00:29:26.000 Did you get COVID ever?

00:29:28.000 I guess so, probably, but I would...

00:29:31.000 You don't know?

00:29:32.000 Well, I mean, I tested positive on a test.

00:29:35.000 Does that count?

00:29:36.000 Yes.

00:29:37.000 I think that means you had COVID. Yeah.

00:29:37.000 Okay.

00:29:39.000 Unless it's a false positive.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, which those exist don't think.

00:29:42.000 Did you get an antibody test?

00:29:44.000 No. 0.99

00:29:45.000 Damn, we could have given you one. 0.99

00:29:46.000 Yeah, but what do you have to do for that? 0.99

00:29:48.000 I don't know.

00:29:48.000 Easy.

00:29:48.000 Blood test.

00:29:49.000 Takes two seconds.

00:29:51.000 No, no, no.

00:29:52.000 Pinprick.

00:29:53.000 Very, very quick.

00:29:54.000 Jamie's the king.

00:29:55.000 He's got the best antibodies in the land.

00:29:57.000 Tested a day.

00:29:58.000 How thick were they?

00:29:59.000 How often do you test?

00:30:01.000 He does it just to show off.

00:30:02.000 He's gigantic.

00:30:03.000 His antibody line is like a fat Sharpie line.

00:30:07.000 Like legitimately.

00:30:09.000 Yeah, so I think I, you know, well, what happened was I went out in Las Vegas and I got a hangover, right?

00:30:16.000 Because I'm not old enough to have those yet.

00:30:18.000 I need to learn my lesson already.

00:30:21.000 But I went out in Las Vegas, I got a hangover, and then I wasn't feeling good the next day.

00:30:26.000 So I was like, okay, I'm not feeling good.

00:30:27.000 It's right before Christmas.

00:30:29.000 And I was like, my mom's like, are you sure this is a hangover?

00:30:32.000 And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:30:33.000 But if you want to test me, I don't, you know, it's your house.

00:30:36.000 And she tested me and it was positive.

00:30:39.000 It was pretty aggressive.

00:30:41.000 I was really, really sick for about seven days.

00:30:44.000 My body was aching.

00:30:48.000 Everything hurt so bad.

00:30:51.000 So you definitely had COVID. Yeah.

00:30:52.000 So why are you saying, I guess?

00:30:54.000 I guess I did.

00:30:56.000 You definitely had it.

00:30:57.000 You have all the symptoms of COVID and you tested positive.

00:31:00.000 It's fine.

00:31:00.000 I had COVID. I had COVID. Okay, so COVID's definitely different than the flu then?

00:31:09.000 It's definitely different than the flu.

00:31:10.000 This is an engineered virus. 1.00

00:31:12.000 This is a virus that was created in a fucking lab. 1.00

00:31:14.000 I don't think they did it on purpose. 1.00

00:31:15.000 I really don't.

00:31:16.000 No, I think the Chinese lab in which they did it in Wuhan was so bad, they were cited for safety violations as recently as I think 2018. I think the real question is, why were they doing this kind of research?

00:31:31.000 And the people that understand the research that they were doing, Like, Barack Obama stopped that stuff from happening in 2014. He put the kibosh on that back then.

00:31:42.000 When the Trump administration was kind of chaotic, that's when they started it all up again.

00:31:47.000 And they were lying about funding it.

00:31:50.000 They were lying about funding it.

00:31:51.000 They were saying, we don't fund it.

00:31:52.000 But you do fund EcoHealth Alliance, and EcoHealth Alliance funds the Wuhan lab. 1.00

00:31:56.000 So shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:31:57.000 This is all crazy. 0.99

00:31:58.000 These guys, the emails alone that were transferred back and forth from Peter Daszak and Anthony Fauci and all these people that were involved in the funding of this research, just the way they were framing it and the way they were disparaging legitimate scientists and legitimate doctors that were not lockstep in agreement with them, 0.99

00:32:24.000 it's fucking shameful. 0.98

00:32:25.000 It's not scientific. 1.00

00:32:26.000 Shameful as in people need to be in prison, maybe? 1.00

00:32:29.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:32:30.000 And not only that, this should be a thing. 0.99

00:32:33.000 Like, Rand Paul's the only one who calls him out on it.

00:32:35.000 And he does it on a regular basis, and he's 100% correct in the things that he's saying about the funding of this particular type of research.

00:32:45.000 Because when you see Fauci say that it's not gain-of-function research, but that's not true, because the NIH says it's gain-of-function research.

00:32:53.000 They all say it now. 0.99

00:32:54.000 Because they want to protect their own ass. 0.99

00:32:55.000 This is a rumor online, and I'm going to ask you a bunch of... 0.99

00:32:58.000 Okay, so is Dr. Fauci's wife on the NIH, isn't she like one of the heads? 0.99

00:33:03.000 Isn't that some sort of thing?

00:33:04.000 Let's find out.

00:33:05.000 She does something.

00:33:06.000 She has some function.

00:33:09.000 And he used to be the head of the NIH during that whole AIDS thing, which we're not making any comparisons to.

00:33:17.000 Here it is.

00:33:19.000 She's the head of the Department of Bioethics.

00:33:21.000 It's the National Institute of Health Clinical Center.

00:33:25.000 Yes, there it is.

00:33:26.000 Do you think maybe this is a problem?

00:33:27.000 Well, it's all crazy.

00:33:31.000 Because these people, they have massive amounts of power to decide who gets funded, what labs get funded, and no one wants to step out of line. 0.94

00:33:39.000 There's a crazy fucking book that I'm in the middle of that's a very controversial book. 0.76

00:33:44.000 And it was one of those books, I'm like, God, do I want to get into this? 0.99

00:33:47.000 Robert Kennedy Jr. Oh, yeah!

00:33:50.000 Robert Kennedy Jr.'s book, The Real Anthony Fauci. 1.00

00:33:53.000 Holy fucking shit. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Like, there's some stuff in that that is 100% verifiable truth. 1.00

00:34:00.000 Yeah.

00:34:00.000 And it's crazy.

00:34:02.000 I know that's the only time I think I've ever...

00:34:03.000 I got your number from Kevin, and I was like, dude, have you had Robert?

00:34:07.000 Have you had him?

00:34:08.000 No, I haven't had him on. 0.97

00:34:09.000 And I was like, I don't know if you got that text message, but I'm like, oh, it was one of those idiots that texted him saying you should have the so-and-so on your podcast. 0.97

00:34:16.000 Ah, that's fine. 0.98

00:34:17.000 Yes, and that's how I find out about a lot of really interesting people.

00:34:20.000 I had talked to him because he's got the child health defense program that he does, and it's interesting enough, his wife is an actress.

00:34:32.000 I don't know if it's...

00:34:33.000 She's the wife on Curb Your Enthusiasm. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Yes.

00:34:35.000 So, you know, she was fully vaccinated and has publicly said, you know, like while Robert was getting in trouble, she's like, I do not have the same beliefs as my husband, you know?

00:34:46.000 And everybody was like, ooh, ouch.

00:34:48.000 Like, why are you going to do that to your husband? 0.87

00:34:50.000 Do you remember when Kellyanne Conway was the White House press secretary and then her husband hates Trump?

00:34:56.000 Yeah.

00:34:56.000 So her husband was publicly against Trump.

00:34:57.000 I like that.

00:34:58.000 I love that.

00:34:59.000 I love that.

00:35:00.000 I think we need more of that.

00:35:01.000 Yes, why not?

00:35:02.000 People can be married and have completely different views.

00:35:05.000 Yeah, but she totally was like, I'm not with him on this. 0.99

00:35:10.000 And I was like, damn! 0.98

00:35:11.000 I don't know if I'd ever do that. 0.99

00:35:13.000 But Robert, I got on the phone with him and I was like, you know, I'm afraid our union, SAG-Africa union, is going to mandate these vaccines. 0.91

00:35:23.000 Is there any taking them to court?

00:35:25.000 How do we figure this out?

00:35:27.000 And he's like, well, and I didn't know this.

00:35:29.000 He's like, well, my wife is an actress and there's no getting around it right now. 0.99

00:35:33.000 And I was like, damn. 0.98

00:35:37.000 And I even looked up online today. 0.99

00:35:39.000 They still are extending that mandate till mid-July.

00:35:43.000 With all the information about it being safe and effective and with all of that stuff coming out, How are they still mandating this in anything?

00:35:52.000 I think that the people that are mandating it need to be made an example out of.

00:35:56.000 Well, it's very strange.

00:35:58.000 I think they do it because they think it's the right thing to do.

00:36:01.000 I don't think they do it...

00:36:02.000 You have such a more positive outlook than I do.

00:36:06.000 I'm objective.

00:36:08.000 I try to look at everything objectively.

00:36:12.000 What does that mean, objective?

00:36:13.000 I don't look at it in terms of the answer that I want to be correct.

00:36:17.000 I don't look at it like, oh, I'm suspicious because I go, well, what are the actual facts and why would people do this and why would people do that?

00:36:27.000 When you're the head of a union and you have something like a national public crisis, a national public health crisis, You have to show that you are taking the correct actions.

00:36:38.000 The general belief of the public is the correct action is to be vaccinated.

00:36:43.000 If you are gonna step outside of that and say, we're gonna take a rebellious position, and we're not gonna mandate that people be vaccinated, but we are gonna mandate that people have to work.

00:36:55.000 We're going to put them in these sets and we're going to have them around people, but the general consensus is for most people think that you're supposed to be vaccinated, right?

00:37:04.000 I would say more than 60% of the population thinks you should be vaccinated.

00:37:09.000 When these people are on the set with these people that That's not true.

00:37:39.000 Which is why I don't think that 60% of the population still think it needs to be right.

00:37:43.000 I think most people are not aware of all this.

00:37:46.000 Most people are not listening to me.

00:37:47.000 They're not listening to podcasts.

00:37:48.000 They're not reading the real Anthony Fauci. 0.98

00:37:52.000 Most people are getting their news from CNN or from MSNBC or whatever the fuck they listen to, even Fox News.

00:37:59.000 Do you feel like it's changing a little bit? 0.79

00:38:01.000 I don't know.

00:38:02.000 It's changing a little in that they're starting to be open about the fact that why are people still sick?

00:38:09.000 Why are people getting boosted?

00:38:13.000 Fauci's had two boosters and he's sick with COVID. Maybe it protected him.

00:38:18.000 Maybe it did.

00:38:19.000 I'd like to know whether or not he took remdesivir because there's a lot of studies that show that that stuff is toxic to your kidneys.

00:38:27.000 And this is something that also is in that book, the real Anthony Fauci book.

00:38:32.000 I wish I was a little bit more objective.

00:38:35.000 I wish I was like that, but my brain kind of works off of maybe more emotional.

00:38:41.000 Would that make me more...

00:38:42.000 Mine does too.

00:38:43.000 I just don't let it.

00:38:44.000 I feel like when I see them still mandating something that all of these documents have come out and said, what is it, 13%, 14% effective, all of these people are still getting COVID-19.

00:38:58.000 I just feel like to push on and force people to get this vaccine that they don't believe in, Is in my just simple mind, it just seems like an abuse of power to kind of weed out the people that will comply and weed out the people that won't comply.

00:39:18.000 And so that now, you know, we don't have such like, you know, as big of a problem.

00:39:24.000 I think there's an element of that, but I think the element of that comes after the decisions were already made.

00:39:32.000 The decisions were made, in my opinion, originally to try to protect the public health, and then it became a thing where there is a tremendous amount of money that's being funneled into various organizations, into various politicians, into campaign funds,

00:39:48.000 into all these different things, and it's by these enormous pharmaceutical companies.

00:39:53.000 I don't think that it wasn't like when Trump came out and said, you know, we're going to shut the world down for a second.

00:40:01.000 I don't think that that...

00:40:02.000 I feel like that was a really hard decision because if he didn't, then they would have ammunition on him for a lifetime and it would have just been like...

00:40:13.000 I mean, I feel like that was a really hard decision for...

00:40:15.000 Well, it's a hard decision, period, because you don't know what to do.

00:40:17.000 Yeah, so it's like the two weeks to slow the spread, but now in looking back at the lockdowns, looking back at the masks, looking back at the forced vaccinations, I feel like anybody who's enforcing it moving forward is absolutely criminal.

00:40:31.000 Right.

00:40:32.000 But the thing is, in California, they don't think like that.

00:40:34.000 In California, there are a lot of people that I'm friends with.

00:40:37.000 This is one of the reasons why I disagree. 0.99

00:40:40.000 There's people that I'm friends with, okay, that aren't even in the fucking movie industry. 0.97

00:40:45.000 They're not even in Hollywood. 0.98

00:40:46.000 And they think everyone should be vaccinated and boosted, and they've even had second boost.

00:40:52.000 And I know people that have had boosts, and they've had problems because of it.

00:40:55.000 They've gotten wrecked.

00:40:56.000 And they're still in support of boosting in this because they think that this is the way to go to protect everybody.

00:41:02.000 I'm like, protect everybody still?

00:41:06.000 We're in July of 2022, okay?

00:41:10.000 Omicron is the latest variant.

00:41:12.000 I had it for a day.

00:41:15.000 I didn't even believe I had it.

00:41:16.000 I came in here.

00:41:17.000 My nose was sniffling.

00:41:18.000 I was joking with our nurse.

00:41:19.000 And I said, maybe this is it.

00:41:21.000 Maybe I got it.

00:41:22.000 She was like, you're not going to believe it.

00:41:23.000 You're positive. 1.00

00:41:23.000 I go, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:41:25.000 I'm like, this is COVID. Granted, this is after I'd already had Delta. 1.00

00:41:29.000 So I had immunity.

00:41:30.000 I had some antibodies.

00:41:31.000 And I basically had sniffles.

00:41:33.000 The next day I was negative, by the way.

00:41:36.000 And so do you feel like the first time you got it, Delta was it then?

00:41:40.000 That was real.

00:41:41.000 The first time I got it was real.

00:41:42.000 And do you feel like the second time you got it, you're...

00:41:44.000 Yes.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, my antibodies had kicked in.

00:41:46.000 So it's kind of getting weaker, right?

00:41:50.000 Bill Gates had said this, which the way he said it, I think he phrased it in a clumsy way, which, by the way, I can relate to because I do that every day.

00:41:57.000 But he said when he was talking about it that unfortunately...

00:42:03.000 Omicron works better than the vaccine at protecting people.

00:42:06.000 And it really does.

00:42:07.000 So I had Delta, which was the first hardcore one.

00:42:10.000 Because everybody had that over Christmas.

00:42:11.000 Yes.

00:42:12.000 Omicron is very mild.

00:42:14.000 So my thing is, if you're not going to force...

00:42:17.000 I must have had something else because it was not mild for me.

00:42:18.000 No, no, no.

00:42:19.000 I bet you had Delta.

00:42:20.000 Delta is rough.

00:42:21.000 Some people get bad from Omicron, but a lot of people...

00:42:26.000 I have friends that got really sick from Omicron and they're vaccinated.

00:42:29.000 And they got really sick from it.

00:42:30.000 And there's some concern that Omicron might be what's called a vaccine escape variant.

00:42:37.000 What a vaccine escape variant is, is when you have variants that are what they call, excuse me, vaccines that are leaky vaccines.

00:42:43.000 Vaccines that offer protection, but don't provide you immunity, right?

00:42:48.000 So it offers you some antibodies, and it protects you from getting really seriously ill, but it doesn't stop you from getting it.

00:42:56.000 Well then, the virus figures out a way to get around those antibodies.

00:43:00.000 So what it does is it kind of mutates and favors The vaccine variants which can get through your antibodies.

00:43:10.000 So, like, say if you're vaccinated for the original strain, right?

00:43:13.000 The original strain of COVID. Well, that's not around anymore.

00:43:15.000 Right.

00:43:15.000 So you have B cell and T cell memory that protect you somewhat.

00:43:20.000 But when your body tries to react and produce antibodies for that original strain, that original strain's not around anymore.

00:43:27.000 And then this Omicron sneaks in through the door because you were like, where is COVID? We're looking for it out here, and this Omicron COVID just sneaks right in the back door, and people get really sick.

00:43:39.000 So this is the speculation why some people get really sick that are vaccinated with Omicron, whereas a lot of people that are not vaccinated that get Omicron aren't getting as sick.

00:43:50.000 But that's also anecdotal.

00:43:52.000 It could be those people that aren't getting as sick, we're healthier, they take better care of themselves.

00:43:58.000 There's so many variables.

00:43:59.000 I just don't like when people tell me there's a one-size-fits-all approach to health.

00:44:03.000 Because I know there's people that are doing way more for their health.

00:44:08.000 They're taking vitamins, they're resting and exercising, and there's other people that are drinking and doing heroin. 0.99

00:44:14.000 We can't say that these people both need the same treatment for a fucking disease. 0.96

00:44:18.000 Or there's people who are 350 pounds that are like, well, I'm fat, so you have to take this for me, for my health. 0.98

00:44:24.000 Exactly.

00:44:25.000 You know, like me and Kevin are good examples.

00:44:27.000 Like, you know, I love food.

00:44:28.000 I love drink.

00:44:29.000 You know, I love to hang out.

00:44:32.000 He loves to get up and run his six miles.

00:44:34.000 You know, he loves to...

00:44:36.000 Well, he doesn't do very good with whiskey, so he's not really allowed for whiskey.

00:44:41.000 But, you know, he doesn't very rarely pollute his body.

00:44:44.000 Right.

00:44:45.000 And in my head, you know, it's like, I can't, until I'm doing everything I possibly can to take care of myself and be responsible for my health, who am I going to be to be like, hey, you have to take, this is what I would take, I would take these antibiotics, you have to take these antibiotics, you know?

00:45:00.000 Right.

00:45:01.000 And, you know, I have a very close friend of mine who is still masking and is still doing all this, and she says, you know, because she's about, you know, 300 pounds, And she's like, well, I'm fat, so I should be able to, I have to protect myself and protect my own.

00:45:16.000 And I'm like, well, I mean, if you want to feel better, there's other places to do that, you know?

00:45:23.000 Lose some weight.

00:45:24.000 Maybe not fried chicken.

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:26.000 But, you know, we live in a culture where you're not supposed to say that.

00:45:30.000 This was a really interesting part of the early part of the pandemic.

00:45:33.000 I hate that.

00:45:33.000 Why can't we?

00:45:34.000 We're America.

00:45:35.000 We're United States of America.

00:45:36.000 Well, we can say it.

00:45:37.000 You can still say it, but a lot of people are going to freak out.

00:45:40.000 But I can tell people, like, I understand.

00:45:44.000 I'm not necessarily healthy all the time, you know?

00:45:47.000 And I know that in looking in the mirror, I have to take responsibility for that.

00:45:52.000 I have to take my own responsibility and not push that responsibility off on everybody else.

00:45:56.000 And make some lifestyle changes.

00:45:58.000 And if I don't, then, you know, I have to deal with those.

00:46:02.000 But you have a lot of people in this country that are living in denial about health in regards to being obese.

00:46:07.000 Like, there's a lot of people that think there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

00:46:10.000 And that it's healthy.

00:46:11.000 And that it's a lie.

00:46:13.000 And that dieting is unhealthy.

00:46:14.000 Like, there's a lot of crazy talk today.

00:46:16.000 And if you get in the wrong echo chamber online, you can be a victim of that kind of crazy talk.

00:46:22.000 Because you start believing it.

00:46:23.000 I feel like what people are, what they're saying is like, see what I'm saying is, you can be beautiful.

00:46:29.000 I believe beauty comes from...

00:46:31.000 I feel beauty very much comes from...

00:46:35.000 Comes from within?

00:46:36.000 Yes, Joe, I feel that.

00:46:38.000 I feel like...

00:46:39.000 You should write cards, like Hallmark cards.

00:46:42.000 Maybe I will after I don't have a job the rest of my life.

00:46:47.000 No, I do.

00:46:48.000 I feel like a soul shines through and your mind is beautiful and your heart is beautiful.

00:46:56.000 That's true.

00:46:56.000 Those are true things.

00:46:58.000 There's beautiful people that aren't aesthetically pleasing.

00:47:01.000 And so when we get into this conversation of, you know, okay, so you're 300 pounds, it doesn't mean I think you're not beautiful.

00:47:07.000 It doesn't mean I don't think that you can't be beautiful with weight on you.

00:47:12.000 I mean, honestly, some guys really prefer it.

00:47:14.000 I don't, you know, like, Kevin actually, he actually likes a little bit of cushion.

00:47:19.000 You know, it's really strange.

00:47:20.000 Like, it's funny.

00:47:22.000 I'm like, thank God!

00:47:22.000 Yeah.

00:47:23.000 But I don't think he likes too much cushion, so I'm over-cushioning right now.

00:47:29.000 But I think that's where we kind of go wrong.

00:47:33.000 I don't think that people aren't beautiful if they have extra weight on themselves.

00:47:38.000 I think that people have different tastes.

00:47:42.000 People definitely have different tastes.

00:47:44.000 But relatively speaking, this is very generally speaking.

00:47:49.000 People are generally more attracted to people who are physically healthy because sexual attraction is a lot about who can you breed with.

00:47:58.000 And if you see someone and they're built like a bowling ball and they're just sitting there eating cake all day, generally speaking, that is not a good person to breed with.

00:48:07.000 This is not a good specimen.

00:48:08.000 Yeah, so like the natural instincts of something.

00:48:12.000 Well, in a world where we're not really working off of common sense or natural anything, I think that maybe that's getting a little bit skewed, and maybe people are finding themselves attracted to things that they normally wouldn't have been attracted to.

00:48:25.000 There's a little of that, but it's also social media.

00:48:27.000 People pretend that they like things because it makes them seem more virtuous.

00:48:32.000 They pretend that if you aren't attracted to someone who's overweight, then you're ableist or you're sizest.

00:48:40.000 Although they come up with terms for why they shouldn't go to the gym.

00:48:43.000 You know there's there's a lot of that going on where there's just people reinforcing other people's really bad ideas and then I mean but and then there's maybe a different take on Just beauty is kind of in the eye of the beholder a little bit more definitely is yeah No, it definitely is like I know a girl and she likes really skinny guys look like they have Like heroin problems.

00:49:04.000 Yeah, that's like her thing. 0.57

00:49:06.000 Yeah, she's into like she wants to see their ribs. 1.00

00:49:08.000 Yeah Whoa.

00:49:11.000 That's her thing. 1.00

00:49:12.000 But I mean, I don't know why.

00:49:13.000 And I know guys like that.

00:49:14.000 I see guys that are attracted to women where you have to see the ribs.

00:49:17.000 And there's like, you know, the guys that I attract are probably more the guys that are like, oh, you could push her up against the wall and she's not going to break.

00:49:25.000 She might break the wall.

00:49:26.000 Yeah.

00:49:27.000 Break down the wall.

00:49:28.000 We actually almost brought down the wall on a movie Haywire did me and Michael Fassbender.

00:49:33.000 Yes, I bring down walls.

00:49:34.000 There you go.

00:49:36.000 I feel like that's what's going on is this battle between...

00:49:40.000 One side is like, hey, health.

00:49:44.000 Let's support health.

00:49:45.000 Let's not make this okay over here.

00:49:48.000 And this other side is just like...

00:49:51.000 Let's make a beauty in the eye of the beholder.

00:49:53.000 And I do think there's a middle ground where most of us live in.

00:49:57.000 It doesn't have to be just so black and white.

00:49:59.000 It can be both.

00:50:02.000 I think you're right.

00:50:04.000 I also think that the idea of what one person is attracted to, everybody has to agree on, is nuts.

00:50:10.000 Because first of all, I'm attracted to women.

00:50:13.000 I can't believe they're attracted to me.

00:50:15.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:16.000 If I had to date guys, I'd be disgusted. 0.99

00:50:19.000 If I had to date only people who look like me, I'd be like, Jesus Christ, this sucks. 0.99

00:50:24.000 This is not what I like. 0.88

00:50:25.000 But women like men, and men like women, and some men like men, and some women like women. 0.97

00:50:30.000 You should be able to like whatever the fuck you want, but don't lie about what's healthy. 0.98

00:50:35.000 This is where I'm like, it's not about beauty. 0.99

00:50:39.000 If you want to think you're beautiful because you're anorexic, I mean, I don't know what to tell you.

00:50:43.000 It's not good for you.

00:50:45.000 Absolutely.

00:50:46.000 And I think that that is a nice balance.

00:50:49.000 There's a difference between health and beauty.

00:50:51.000 And the eye of the beholder.

00:50:51.000 Yes.

00:50:52.000 Right.

00:50:53.000 But just like, we can't lie.

00:50:54.000 I mean, I'm super attracted to...

00:50:55.000 I'm not attracted to muscles.

00:50:58.000 I'm attracted to more of like the...

00:51:01.000 You know, lean Muay Thai.

00:51:03.000 Long legs, lean Muay Thai body that's, you know, complete opposite my body, you know.

00:51:07.000 I'm attracted to that.

00:51:09.000 You know, I don't really like...

00:51:10.000 Well, like you found Kevin Ross.

00:51:12.000 Perfect.

00:51:12.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 What a weird thing that you would be attracted to a Muay Thai fighter and date a Muay Thai fighter.

00:51:18.000 But where did this start off?

00:51:19.000 Who did I have in my posters on my wall?

00:51:21.000 Um...

00:51:22.000 But more than his body or anything, I like his artistic mind.

00:51:26.000 I like how he's the quiet guy in the room.

00:51:30.000 This quiet strength.

00:51:32.000 Confidence. 0.99

00:51:33.000 And he's just got this no bullshit meter. 0.88

00:51:37.000 I love that.

00:51:38.000 But I love his art.

00:51:39.000 So the poster that I had when I was 16, it was all Johnny Depp.

00:51:44.000 All Johnny Depp everything.

00:51:47.000 And then Angelina Jolie.

00:51:49.000 So those were like my two poster people. 0.97

00:51:51.000 Well, they're pretty fucking beautiful, both of those two. 0.87

00:51:55.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:51:55.000 Pretty tough to beat in terms of like just the aesthetics of their face. 0.97

00:51:59.000 But like Johnny Depp screams art to me.

00:52:01.000 Well, he's an artistic guy.

00:52:02.000 Do you know him at all?

00:52:03.000 No, no.

00:52:04.000 Very sweet guy.

00:52:05.000 Is he?

00:52:05.000 Sweet guy.

00:52:06.000 Well, he's got a fan in me.

00:52:07.000 If he wants to do a cancel movie, I'm down.

00:52:09.000 I don't think he's canceled anymore.

00:52:11.000 I think he's back.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, I'm trying to be back, too.

00:52:13.000 I don't know if it's working.

00:52:14.000 You can be back.

00:52:16.000 We defended you, because what you said was not incorrect.

00:52:20.000 And the only problem was the comparison to the Holocaust.

00:52:23.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 And I get that people have a hard time comparing things to the Holocaust, but...

00:52:29.000 If you go to Germany in 1930, there's not a chance in hell anybody ever saw that coming. 0.70

00:52:37.000 No one saw what happened and the way Jews were demonized and the evil Nazi empire that took over.

00:52:45.000 Within 14, 13, 12 years, it was happening.

00:52:50.000 That's crazy.

00:52:51.000 And that happens by othering people.

00:52:53.000 And that's what you were saying.

00:52:55.000 That is what you were saying.

00:52:56.000 I was saying, because I think I've been a little bit naive in my life.

00:53:00.000 I would always look at the stories of the Holocaust and I'd always think, oh my gosh, how did that ever happen?

00:53:08.000 How did that ever happen in people's brains while you're in their neighborhood and they're kicking these people out of their homes?

00:53:16.000 They're taking you out and you're watching your, you know, neighbors get, you know, arrested.

00:53:20.000 How did anybody let that happen?

00:53:22.000 I just didn't understand it.

00:53:24.000 And I've been a very, you know, I mean, if you look through every single post on my, you know, Twitter account, I mean, I watch movies all the time on the Holocaust and I'm really, you know, my heart, I'm like the one that's bawling at these stories.

00:53:39.000 Like Chandler's List?

00:53:40.000 Horrific, right?

00:53:41.000 Have you ever seen Swing Kids?

00:53:43.000 No.

00:53:44.000 Oh, you haven't seen Swing Kids?

00:53:46.000 No.

00:53:46.000 So it's directly what I was talking about.

00:53:48.000 I actually had that in mind when I posted this.

00:53:50.000 It's a bunch of German boys, and they would do swing as their rebellion, so they'd dance swing. 1.00

00:53:58.000 And there was a group of them.

00:54:00.000 Well, then the Nazis started to kind of infiltrate them, and two of them signed up for it. 0.83

00:54:05.000 And I don't want to ruin the ending or anything, but...

00:54:07.000 You saw how the brainwashing started happening with each different person, and it was like, it was really, it's a very, I'd watch it.

00:54:17.000 That's what I had in my mind, was neighbors turning against neighbors.

00:54:21.000 And we saw that.

00:54:22.000 Yeah, but the whole reason why that happened, and they kind of came after me so hard over that, They were already on you.

00:54:29.000 They were on me for like...

00:54:30.000 What were they on you for?

00:54:32.000 They were looking for a reason to hate you.

00:54:34.000 I think because I just wasn't, I just wasn't towing their line.

00:54:39.000 I just wasn't, you know, I wasn't putting the black squares up.

00:54:42.000 I wasn't saying, okay, masks and lockdowns and I wasn't saying vaccinate and I wasn't like doing all the...

00:54:48.000 Were you saying something against that?

00:54:50.000 I said a lot of stuff.

00:54:53.000 I said if people are out there on the streets and protesting, I think we can open up our churches and our businesses and continue on.

00:55:00.000 Oh, that's what you said.

00:55:02.000 Don't you.

00:55:03.000 Don't you talk logically.

00:55:04.000 And then I beep-bopped a boop. 1.00

00:55:06.000 So me and Kevin are sitting there watching a UFC fight.

00:55:08.000 And all these people are attacking me online.

00:55:10.000 And they're like, put trans rights in your bio.

00:55:13.000 Put trans rights and do this. 1.00

00:55:14.000 And I'm like, why are all these people being so aggressive?

00:55:16.000 In your bio?

00:55:17.000 They were asking you to put trans rights in your bio?

00:55:19.000 Yeah, like tweet out trans rights, hashtag trans rights.

00:55:22.000 And then they were saying, put your pronouns in your bio.

00:55:25.000 And it was really aggressive.

00:55:26.000 And me and Kevin are just like cooking chicken wings and like watching the fights.

00:55:29.000 And I was like...

00:55:31.000 You know, so I was like, this is aggressive.

00:55:33.000 And I was like, okay, I'm going to put something in my bio that, like, you know, like, I didn't know why people were putting this in their bio.

00:55:40.000 I just wasn't with it.

00:55:41.000 I had no idea Jordan Peterson had ever been canceled, like, you know, years and years before.

00:55:45.000 So I just wasn't with it with, like, the pronouns.

00:55:48.000 Mm-hmm.

00:55:49.000 So I was like, Kevin, what should I put?

00:55:51.000 He's in the kitchen.

00:55:52.000 I'm like, what should I put?

00:55:53.000 He's like, I don't know.

00:55:54.000 I was like, beep, bop, boop.

00:55:56.000 And he's like, yeah, just put that.

00:55:57.000 And so I wasn't trying to make fun of trans people.

00:56:02.000 My statement was to be like, you can put anything you want in your bio.

00:56:06.000 You can do whatever you want.

00:56:08.000 And the publicists were like, well, if you hadn't put slashes in between and if you would have added a word, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

00:56:17.000 And I was like... 0.98

00:56:18.000 Are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

00:56:20.000 Oh my god. 0.99

00:56:21.000 So then all the people that were coming after me, I just started booping them because I felt like...

00:56:25.000 You know those little gift boops? 1.00

00:56:27.000 I just started booping them because I felt like I didn't want to...

00:56:29.000 I don't like to be mean.

00:56:31.000 I'm not a mean person.

00:56:32.000 So I've gotten cancelled over...

00:56:34.000 I feel like I'm in the detention room and I have no idea why I'm there.

00:56:38.000 I'm like, for booping people?

00:56:39.000 For saying you should keep the world open?

00:56:41.000 For...

00:56:42.000 You know, medical freedom.

00:56:44.000 And then for putting up a, yeah, it was, I think the image on the meme was aggressive.

00:56:50.000 But coming from a passionate place, I think that I just wanted people to have conversations and That's all I was really wanting.

00:56:59.000 Well, you recognized it was crazy.

00:57:00.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 There's a thing that's going on where when people start telling someone that looks like me to put your pronoun in your Twitter bio, like, hey, no. 0.99

00:57:11.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

00:57:11.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:12.000 Yeah.

00:57:13.000 Like, maybe I'm a woman.

00:57:15.000 Maybe.

00:57:16.000 Maybe.

00:57:17.000 But what are the odds? 1.00

00:57:19.000 You got some freaky shit in there now. 1.00

00:57:19.000 Most likely. 1.00

00:57:22.000 Maybe.

00:57:23.000 Maybe.

00:57:25.000 But most likely not. 0.99

00:57:26.000 And if I was, I would fucking tell you. 0.99

00:57:28.000 If I felt like I was a woman, I'd let you know. 1.00

00:57:30.000 And until then, shut the fuck up and just leave me alone. 1.00

00:57:33.000 It's like we're dealing with the smallest percentage of a population. 0.99

00:57:38.000 And then, you know, that gets exaggerated in terms of, like, the response it gets from the general public because it seems to be something that if you're a compassionate, kind, caring person, this is what you support.

00:57:50.000 I support everybody in every way until you start telling me what to do.

00:57:55.000 I'm not interested in that.

00:57:55.000 Same.

00:57:56.000 And I don't like the bullying that came along with it, you know?

00:57:59.000 Yes.

00:58:01.000 So yeah, I was very vocal about all of it.

00:58:05.000 And I don't think that I was toying their line.

00:58:07.000 I also don't think that...

00:58:08.000 So I never told anybody who I voted for, right?

00:58:12.000 And to be real, I've never voted in my life, which is not a proud thing.

00:58:16.000 But in 2020, I've never believed...

00:58:20.000 Maybe this is growing up in the grunge phase or whatever.

00:58:23.000 I just never believed in...

00:58:25.000 I never believed it counted.

00:58:30.000 But when 2020 came around, I knew that after the devastation of what had happened with COVID and the lockdowns and all of that, I wanted to make sure we had a strong leader that was going to be able to get this economy back.

00:58:44.000 Because once again, it's like work makes people healthier.

00:58:47.000 It gives people structure.

00:58:48.000 It helps us survive and gives us pride.

00:58:51.000 It gives us pride to work hard in our country.

00:58:54.000 It gives me pride to work hard.

00:58:55.000 I love to work.

00:58:56.000 It's my favorite thing to do.

00:58:59.000 So I wanted to make sure that I was going to actually vote in 2020. But I never told, I wasn't like, you know, you know all the celebrities that like took off their clothes and did these campaigns and they're like, you know, vote for who we're voting for and they're like doing these naked campaigns and nobody asked for.

00:59:14.000 And it was like, and they're all letting you know very much so that they're voting Democrat and they're voting for Biden and all this.

00:59:21.000 And I'm like, all I did, this is the only thing I did, I put a sticker on my hand that says I voted.

00:59:26.000 And a hate campaign trending again.

00:59:29.000 And all I did was I didn't even tell people who I voted for.

00:59:31.000 I just said I finally voted for my first time and I did a little sparkly thing.

00:59:37.000 And they're mad at you for that.

00:59:38.000 Because they're putting all of their...

00:59:40.000 I never was the person to run around with a red MAGA hat on or MAGA hat.

00:59:45.000 Did you vote for Trump?

00:59:46.000 Is that what you're trying to say?

00:59:47.000 Yes, I did.

00:59:48.000 But I wasn't that person, though, that was like...

00:59:51.000 But I didn't like how they were being treated because they were passionate about who they were voting for, just because they were so passionate about that, as well as these people...

01:00:00.000 Why couldn't we have equal passion?

01:00:02.000 The problem is the way Trump behaves makes the people who oppose him feel like they're very justified in their anger because he fights people.

01:00:14.000 If you say something that he opposes, he goes after you.

01:00:19.000 He gets angry.

01:00:20.000 He insults people.

01:00:21.000 He mocks people.

01:00:22.000 I understand both.

01:00:23.000 He divides people in that way.

01:00:24.000 I understand both of that, right?

01:00:25.000 Like, I understand very much so, like, people would prefer more professional voice.

01:00:31.000 But these are the only options we had in 2020. Right.

01:00:34.000 And that's, you know...

01:00:35.000 That's pragmatic.

01:00:36.000 That's a good way to look at it.

01:00:37.000 So I was like, you know, one of my co-stars contacted me and he's like, you know, he's like, you're not voting for Trump, though.

01:00:44.000 And I was like, well, yeah, I am going to.

01:00:47.000 And he was like, Gina.

01:00:48.000 And I'm like...

01:00:49.000 What has Joe Biden said in his past that Trump hasn't said?

01:00:53.000 I mean, if you look through all of Joe Biden's history, and I was like, and to be honest, that three years of very positive economy that he was in charge, I would be a bit pissed off if I was him too.

01:01:03.000 They didn't give him a fair shake in the news to save his life.

01:01:06.000 I mean, the CNN hoax and the Russian hoax and all of that just on top of him and You know, they're just as guilty as Trump was as dividing the media.

01:01:17.000 And now they're kind of breaking down and going to people like you and going elsewhere.

01:01:22.000 And the media is now suffering, which as they should, because they're just as guilty as Trump.

01:01:27.000 Well, they have a problem and they have an outrage economy. 0.99

01:01:30.000 Yeah.

01:01:31.000 That's a big part of what they sell is trying to get people outraged about something.

01:01:35.000 So they find things to exaggerate and become outraged at.

01:01:38.000 And we're going to get pretty sick and tired of that, the worst things get.

01:01:42.000 They're going to have to start reporting on real news.

01:01:46.000 Well, I think that's what CNN's strategy is now.

01:01:48.000 CNN was purchased.

01:01:50.000 Oh, they got a different owner now?

01:01:51.000 Yes.

01:01:52.000 And one of the big things that this guy's saying is that he wants to bring back the objective news journalism instead of editorializing things. 0.92

01:02:04.000 Instead of commentary, instead of opinion, instead of all this bullshit that you get from these Brian Stelter, Don Lemon type characters. 0.96

01:02:11.000 Oh my word. 0.98

01:02:12.000 That's the reason why people don't want to listen to CNN. If CNN just stuck with subjects that are important to the world and to the American people, here's the problem with the shipping crisis.

01:02:25.000 This is what's going on.

01:02:26.000 Here's what we know about this attack on this person.

01:02:30.000 Here's what we know about this oil leak. 1.00

01:02:32.000 That kind of shit is what people go to CNN for. 1.00

01:02:35.000 They don't go to CNN to listen to the opinions of dorks. 1.00

01:02:38.000 And that's what they were trying to sell.

01:02:40.000 And that's why their credibility kept dropping.

01:02:43.000 And then when they were attacking other people, it's just, God, it's so transparent what you guys are doing. 0.98

01:02:48.000 You're little fucking watchdogs for the pharmaceutical industry, which is, they're being directed. 0.86

01:02:54.000 If you find out that, one of the things we found out when we were doing this podcast is 75% of all television ads are from pharmaceutical drug companies. 0.99

01:03:02.000 Pfizer.

01:03:04.000 But they think with news it's even higher than 75%.

01:03:04.000 Unbelievable.

01:03:07.000 75% for all of television, but with news it's probably even higher than that.

01:03:12.000 Yeah.

01:03:13.000 And this is the reason why they frame things the way they do.

01:03:16.000 This is the reason why they cover stories the way they do.

01:03:19.000 This is the reason why they never talk about adverse events, adverse side effects.

01:03:25.000 They never talk about the VAERS reports and the under-reporting. 0.99

01:03:28.000 They never talk about any of that shit. 0.98

01:03:29.000 They never talk about when people who are famous people who have a horrible reaction to vaccine, whether they die or have strokes or whatever. 0.99

01:03:36.000 It's just they gloss it over.

01:03:38.000 No need to talk about that.

01:03:40.000 And until they do, I don't think that they're going to get their name back.

01:03:44.000 Until they genuinely...

01:03:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:46.000 The government, the medical companies, the media, everybody needs, Disney, everybody needs to kind of break it back down.

01:03:57.000 They need to realize that our trust in the government is probably at an all-time low.

01:04:05.000 I mean, our trust in medical information is at an all-time low.

01:04:09.000 Nobody trusts anything.

01:04:11.000 I'm like, I don't trust anything.

01:04:13.000 I was all a big fan of modern medicine, and I still am.

01:04:17.000 I'm not absolutely ridiculous when it comes to any of it, but I'm trying to figure out, I don't want to take it.

01:04:22.000 I'm becoming one of those people where I'm like, okay, I don't want to take Tylenol if I don't need Tylenol just because I have a little headache, whereas before I was like, pop a Tylenol in there.

01:04:30.000 Now I'm kind of thinking, mm.

01:04:32.000 I read a terrible story about a woman who got COVID and died from Tylenol.

01:04:37.000 Well, geez.

01:04:38.000 No, really, you can die from Tylenol.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, so this is what it was.

01:04:42.000 This woman got COVID. We kind of need to break it down, right? 1.00

01:04:44.000 We need to kind of go back to water, healthy eating, kind of break ourselves back down, put away the things that we're using that is hurting us, and try to kind of get our systems clean, and then we can really see what the big problems are,

01:05:00.000 and then we can kind of figure out how to get healthier from there, I think.

01:05:05.000 Yeah, I should be clear about this.

01:05:06.000 I'm not saying you shouldn't take Tylenol.

01:05:08.000 What I'm saying is that there is a dose that's lethal for Tylenol and it's not really that high.

01:05:14.000 Really?

01:05:15.000 No, it's not.

01:05:16.000 This woman, she had COVID and she was in, you know, she's in pain.

01:05:20.000 She had the horrible body aches and she took Tylenol and it wasn't helping.

01:05:24.000 And so she took more and it wasn't helping and she took more and she wound up in the hospital and she had liver failure.

01:05:30.000 I think that's important to know.

01:05:31.000 It is important to know. 0.99

01:05:33.000 Because a lot of people don't know that Tylenol will fucking kill you. 0.98

01:05:36.000 What is the lethal dose of Tylenol? 0.99

01:05:38.000 Let's find that out.

01:05:40.000 I was using Tylenol rapid release when I was sick. 0.99

01:05:46.000 Tylenol will fuck you up. 1.00

01:05:48.000 It will fuck you up. 1.00

01:05:49.000 I don't take anything. 1.00

01:05:50.000 When I had my knee surgery, I didn't take shit. 0.99

01:05:52.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:05:52.000 Really? 0.99

01:05:53.000 I was like, I'm not taking nothing.

01:05:54.000 I'm always like, can I have six?

01:05:57.000 When I had my first knee surgery, I can't remember if they gave me Percocets or Vicodins.

01:06:02.000 I can't remember what it was.

01:06:03.000 But I do remember I sold it to my friend Jeff.

01:06:06.000 How did you hear that guy?

01:06:06.000 Who was the local drug dealer at the pool hall.

01:06:09.000 He was...

01:06:10.000 This guy, he looked like...

01:06:12.000 He looked like he was out of a Beavis and Butthead cartoon.

01:06:12.000 We all have that friend.

01:06:15.000 Okay, adult maximum acetaminophen.

01:06:17.000 So this is the Tylenol and numerous brands and products, including acetaminophen, now the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States.

01:06:27.000 So, maximal acetaminophen daily doses.

01:06:27.000 Oh my gosh.

01:06:31.000 For adults, it's four grams a day, and for children, it's 75 milligrams per kilogram a day, which is not a lot.

01:06:39.000 That is not a lot.

01:06:41.000 I'm so glad we're bringing this up.

01:06:42.000 Toxic dose, 10 grams or 200 milligrams per kilogram as a single ingestion over a 24-hour period or 6 grams or 150 milligrams per kilogram per 24-hour period for two days.

01:07:00.000 200 milligrams per kilogram in healthy children, one to six years of age. 0.99

01:07:05.000 So, it can fucking kill you, okay? 0.99

01:07:08.000 And again, read that. 0.99

01:07:09.000 The most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States.

01:07:14.000 Would that be overdose?

01:07:15.000 Overdose, yeah.

01:07:16.000 Overdose.

01:07:17.000 Well, that is something I think that needed to be said today.

01:07:20.000 Yeah, people need to know.

01:07:21.000 It's not good for you. 0.65

01:07:23.000 By the way, non-steroidal anti-inflammatories isn't so fucking terrific for you either.

01:07:26.000 What is it?

01:07:27.000 Like ibuprofen and stuff like that.

01:07:29.000 My friend Cam Haynes, who runs...

01:07:29.000 Yeah.

01:07:30.000 What about like Midol and Pamperin and all of those stuff?

01:07:33.000 I don't know if those are ibuprofen.

01:07:35.000 Are those ibuprofen as well?

01:07:37.000 I feel like they're in that family, maybe.

01:07:37.000 I don't know.

01:07:39.000 Those are for girls, so... 1.00

01:07:42.000 Meanwhile, I live in a fucking house full of them. 1.00

01:07:44.000 I should probably know. 1.00

01:07:45.000 You should probably know that.

01:07:46.000 I should probably know.

01:07:47.000 No, like I started after, you know, after all of this vaccine and like, you know, all this stuff, I've been like, okay, do I really need that?

01:07:55.000 Do I really need that Tylenol?

01:07:57.000 Or is this just kind of something where I could drink a little bit more water and feel better?

01:08:02.000 Do I really, like, because at the beginning of the whole COVID thing, I would get like a headache and I'd be like, I have it.

01:08:08.000 It's done.

01:08:09.000 It's over.

01:08:10.000 And now it's like, I have a headache, you know, drink more water, or I'm not feeling good, and maybe it's, you know, what did I eat yesterday?

01:08:16.000 You know, it's come down to that.

01:08:18.000 I think the older I get, the more I'm like, I can get food hangovers now, you know, like if you put something- Sugar.

01:08:24.000 I'll get a food hangover with a big piece of cake.

01:08:24.000 Yeah.

01:08:26.000 Yeah.

01:08:27.000 You love cake.

01:08:28.000 I love cake.

01:08:28.000 You do?

01:08:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:29.000 What kind?

01:08:30.000 Well, my favorite dessert is not really cake.

01:08:33.000 It's tiramisu, but it's kind of like cake.

01:08:35.000 Tiramisu is basically cake, right?

01:08:37.000 Let's put it- It's got the little angel cookies.

01:08:41.000 That's the Italian in me.

01:08:42.000 I love tiramisu.

01:08:45.000 That's my favorite.

01:08:47.000 But I like a chocolate cake too. 0.99

01:08:49.000 I'll fuck up a chocolate cake. 0.99

01:08:51.000 A good juicy one. 0.99

01:08:53.000 I mean, yeah.

01:08:54.000 Moist chocolate cake?

01:08:56.000 I'm getting excited.

01:08:57.000 Yeah, I know.

01:08:58.000 Now you've got me thinking.

01:08:59.000 A warm chocolate cake with a scoop of vanilla ice cream.

01:09:02.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:09:03.000 So is it just sugar?

01:09:05.000 You like your cheat meals like sugar?

01:09:07.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 Yeah.

01:09:08.000 Pasta is my cheat meal.

01:09:09.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:10.000 For food, it's pasta for sure.

01:09:12.000 What about chicken fried steak and eggs?

01:09:12.000 100%.

01:09:14.000 I'll eat that too.

01:09:15.000 That is one of my favorite.

01:09:17.000 That's pretty damn good.

01:09:18.000 Yeah, they probably have a good place here in Texas.

01:09:20.000 Oh, guaranteed.

01:09:21.000 They have chicken fried lobster out here.

01:09:22.000 They chicken fry everything up here.

01:09:24.000 Oh, I don't know about that. 0.99

01:09:24.000 It's fucking good. 0.99

01:09:25.000 No! 0.99

01:09:26.000 Shout out to Three Forks.

01:09:27.000 There's a Three Forks Steakhouse that has a chicken fried lobster as an appetizer.

01:09:33.000 It's slamming.

01:09:33.000 I think that takes away from everything.

01:09:34.000 Okay, I'll trust you.

01:09:36.000 You should have Dana White do that on his... 0.99

01:09:38.000 Yeah, his Fuck It Fridays. 1.00

01:09:39.000 Yeah, his Fuck It Fridays. 1.00

01:09:40.000 I told him, I was like, those are my favorite shows. 0.99

01:09:43.000 Those are great.

01:09:44.000 I don't even look at the fights anymore.

01:09:46.000 I'm like, what is he having on a Friday?

01:09:48.000 Have you seen when Dean Thomas does a parody of it?

01:09:50.000 He puts a fake bald wig on and puts a shirt on that's way too small so you can see his stomach.

01:09:56.000 Dean's hilarious.

01:09:58.000 He's really funny.

01:09:58.000 No, I haven't seen him.

01:09:59.000 That's great. 0.95

01:10:00.000 I'm actually mad that Dana White does that because I'm like, damn, that's such a good idea. 0.99

01:10:03.000 I want to do Fuck It Fridays now. 0.99

01:10:05.000 It's a great move. 0.97

01:10:07.000 He's an interesting guy, Dana, because he doesn't have to do anything.

01:10:09.000 Look at Dean.

01:10:10.000 Oh my god.

01:10:12.000 That's amazing.

01:10:13.000 Give me some fun. 1.00

01:10:14.000 I'm rich, motherfucker. 1.00

01:10:16.000 Go from the beginning. 1.00

01:10:17.000 Go from the beginning so we can hear what he says.

01:10:18.000 What's up, everybody?

01:10:19.000 Dino White here, live at the UFC headquarters. 0.94

01:10:22.000 Today is Suckin' Saturday. 0.99

01:10:24.000 Suckin' Saturday. 0.99

01:10:25.000 He calls himself Dino White. 1.00

01:10:27.000 I'm rich, motherfucker. 1.00

01:10:28.000 I can do what the fuck I want. 1.00

01:10:30.000 Today, we're going to be making Rice Krispie Sloppy Joes. 0.99

01:10:33.000 Look how he has his shirt too short.

01:10:35.000 So we call them sloppy hoes. 1.00

01:10:38.000 First, we gotta make the sloppy hoes. 1.00

01:10:40.000 Oh no.

01:10:42.000 We gotta mix it in with our sauce.

01:10:45.000 Oh no.

01:10:47.000 And mix it up real good.

01:10:50.000 Now you gotta add the sloppy hoes. 1.00

01:10:52.000 Get out.

01:10:55.000 What's Rice Krispies and Spam?

01:10:57.000 Oh my god, that looks disgusting.

01:10:59.000 I gotta follow this guy. 0.98

01:11:01.000 Oh my god, he's eating it.

01:11:07.000 Thumbs up!

01:11:09.000 That's a great...

01:11:10.000 He really studied dynamite when he did that.

01:11:14.000 It doesn't suck.

01:11:15.000 It doesn't suck. 0.86

01:11:16.000 It doesn't suck. 0.95

01:11:16.000 Thumbs up. 0.95

01:11:17.000 I just love how he has his shirt that's too short.

01:11:20.000 His midriff is hanging out and the bald cap. 1.00

01:11:23.000 Suck it Saturday. 1.00

01:11:25.000 That was too cute. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Oh my gosh. 1.00

01:11:27.000 What is his name?

01:11:28.000 Dean Thomas.

01:11:29.000 Dean is a coach at ATT, and he used to fight for the UFC, and he comes in in big fights.

01:11:38.000 He'll be the guy that we go to occasionally, like about strategy, we'll ask him a question, and he'll say, like, what year he has to do this, and this and that, and what Glover's doing great is this, and when this comes up, the reason why it's getting through is because of that.

01:11:53.000 What is he doing?

01:11:55.000 Give me some more volume.

01:11:57.000 Refresh this.

01:11:58.000 Refresh this.

01:11:59.000 Oh my god.

01:12:00.000 That little shirt.

01:12:02.000 He's a fun dude. 0.97

01:12:03.000 Another edition of Suck It Saturday. 0.65

01:12:05.000 Live at the UFC headquarters. 1.00

01:12:05.000 Suck It Saturday. 1.00

01:12:07.000 Today, we're making a dish from the Great Depression back in 1999 when me, Lorenzo, and Frank bought the UFC. You're welcome, motherf***er. 1.00

01:12:18.000 I got my chef, your fake-ass Gordon Ramsay, to help me out. 1.00

01:12:22.000 First, you start with one pork chop. 0.97

01:12:25.000 Chef.

01:12:26.000 Now we gotta fry it up.

01:12:30.000 Now smother it in the tub. 1.00

01:12:32.000 Oh, no.

01:12:34.000 Oh, no.

01:12:35.000 Now it's time to try it.

01:12:37.000 We call this a nut chop.

01:12:41.000 Oh, he eats it.

01:12:44.000 Not bad.

01:12:52.000 That might be the best thing we've ever done here.

01:12:55.000 Oh my gosh.

01:12:56.000 That's such a good impression of Dana.

01:12:58.000 I just love the commitment to the same kind of shirt every day with the midriff showing.

01:13:04.000 I feel like that's not a bad Halloween costume if you're looking for one.

01:13:07.000 That's a great one. 0.97

01:13:08.000 Be Dean as Dana for Suck It Saturday. 0.99

01:13:13.000 And just have a t-shirt that says Suck It Saturday. 0.99

01:13:15.000 That's amazing. 0.99

01:13:16.000 That's a great Halloween costume.

01:13:17.000 You just told everybody you can cut that out.

01:13:19.000 No, no.

01:13:20.000 Put that out there.

01:13:21.000 But that would be...

01:13:22.000 I want everybody to wear it.

01:13:23.000 Not those people being you, being him.

01:13:25.000 But look, he's got another one.

01:13:26.000 But I just think that if you showed up at a party with a Suck It Saturday shirt on, with a bald cap and a shirt that's too small, only the deep, deep insiders would be like, dude, that's a costume.

01:13:40.000 I'm happy to be a part of that group now because I'm going to follow him on Instagram.

01:13:43.000 Dean's awesome.

01:13:44.000 I love that dude.

01:13:45.000 He's been on here before too.

01:13:46.000 Dana, he was actually one of the people, randomly enough, that reached out to me when I got cancelled and sent me a text message.

01:13:56.000 He's like, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro.

01:13:58.000 And this is coming from the last time me and Dana spoke.

01:14:01.000 It was over controversy of me coming back and having a fight.

01:14:07.000 So, it was a surprise text, and he was like, hey, it was right when I was canceled, and he was like, Gina, you have to get a hold of Ben Shapiro.

01:14:14.000 He's looking for you.

01:14:15.000 And Dana was very instrumental, and I was like, wow, this is so...

01:14:20.000 It's so random, the people that come out of the woodwork, when you're completely tossed to the side, and then you really get to see people for who they are, I think.

01:14:28.000 And he was very encouraging.

01:14:29.000 There's a lot of people that cower when the mob comes after someone.

01:14:32.000 They don't want to get involved.

01:14:34.000 Like the majority. 0.94

01:14:34.000 What the hell? 0.94

01:14:35.000 And they also take the side of the mob, even people that you thought were your friends.

01:14:40.000 Oh, so that happened to you as well?

01:14:42.000 Not really.

01:14:45.000 Okay, you can't really.

01:14:46.000 You see what happened to other people.

01:14:48.000 No, look, my friends are my friends.

01:14:51.000 I vet my friends. 0.96

01:14:53.000 If you're my friend, that means I really fucking know you. 0.90

01:14:56.000 I just don't have that many. 0.89

01:14:58.000 Yeah, it's hard to find that many.

01:14:59.000 I don't really hang out in Hollywood all the time.

01:15:02.000 I'm not doing the schmoozing.

01:15:04.000 Well, listen, if I was an actor and if I was in Hollywood, I would have probably zero friends.

01:15:08.000 I'd have Chris Pratt would be my only friend.

01:15:10.000 Has he been on here?

01:15:11.000 No, he hasn't.

01:15:12.000 But he will be, I'm sure.

01:15:13.000 I love that guy.

01:15:14.000 I'm friends with him.

01:15:15.000 I'm friend friends with him.

01:15:16.000 Good.

01:15:17.000 He seems like a good one.

01:15:18.000 He's great.

01:15:19.000 He's my example.

01:15:20.000 Him and Scott Eastwood. 0.97

01:15:22.000 When people want to talk shit about actors, I'm like, let me tell you something. 1.00

01:15:24.000 Scott Eastwood is the normalist motherfucker. 1.00

01:15:27.000 His dad is one of the greatest movie stars of all time. 1.00

01:15:30.000 He's an iconic figure.

01:15:32.000 And Scott couldn't be more normal.

01:15:34.000 He'd be like a cousin.

01:15:35.000 This is my cousin Scott.

01:15:36.000 Like, hey, what's up?

01:15:37.000 You'd never think.

01:15:39.000 He's here now.

01:15:40.000 Oh, he is?

01:15:41.000 He lives on here.

01:15:41.000 He lives in Austin.

01:15:42.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:42.000 Because he was always working out at...

01:15:44.000 I'm totally name-dropping my friend, Artem at the Boxing Works.

01:15:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:49.000 Okay.

01:15:49.000 San Diego?

01:15:50.000 Yeah.

01:15:51.000 He'll appreciate that.

01:15:53.000 This will be all over on Instagram.

01:15:54.000 But he's this precious Russian guy who's just like... 1.00

01:15:57.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:15:58.000 He's amazing. 1.00

01:15:59.000 He was a Muay Thai fighter.

01:16:01.000 Seeing him fight was so cool. 0.72

01:16:03.000 He was nasty.

01:16:04.000 I saw him fight live.

01:16:04.000 Oh, you did?

01:16:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:06.000 In LA. He's got that really sick kind of thing in you that...

01:16:12.000 I had a little bit.

01:16:14.000 It's just like when you get hit hard, then you just see red.

01:16:17.000 He had it more probably because he was just mean when he fought. 1.00

01:16:20.000 He was a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:16:22.000 Sean Yarbo was like that. 1.00

01:16:23.000 Sean Yarbo, that's another good friend of mine.

01:16:26.000 I remember when Artem fought Joe Schilling.

01:16:28.000 Yeah.

01:16:28.000 The big match in L.A. Yeah, yeah.

01:16:32.000 They're friends now.

01:16:33.000 Yeah.

01:16:33.000 Joe Schilling's awesome.

01:16:34.000 He's my fucking friend. 0.99

01:16:36.000 I love how much he doesn't care. 1.00

01:16:37.000 He's the man. 1.00

01:16:39.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

01:16:40.000 He doesn't. 1.00

01:16:40.000 He put a video up of him knocking out a guy in a bar. 1.00

01:16:43.000 Guy was an asshole in a bar. 1.00

01:16:45.000 The guy bowed up on him and he flatlined him in like two seconds. 1.00

01:16:48.000 See, the problem is if I would have done that, I would have been in prison for five years because I just get in trouble like that.

01:16:53.000 Yeah, just say that. 0.99

01:16:55.000 But if it was some mouthy bitch, some Karen... 1.00

01:16:57.000 I would be in prison. 1.00

01:16:59.000 Look, I am beep-bopping, booping people and losing jobs, okay?

01:17:02.000 So the second I get real serious about something... 1.00

01:17:05.000 If you were at a bar and there's a video of you trying to walk, excuse me, and you're walking and some bitch gets in your face, Fuck you, you fucking, fucking whore! 1.00

01:17:16.000 And you just crack her with an elbow and flatline her, people would think it was amazing. 1.00

01:17:20.000 Yeah, but then I'd be in prison.

01:17:21.000 But it's a little different when girls beat up girls, right? 0.99

01:17:24.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:17:25.000 I used to get in fights.

01:17:26.000 I could never go out in Las Vegas when I was little without getting in a fight every weekend.

01:17:30.000 Really?

01:17:30.000 When you were little?

01:17:31.000 I think that's why I don't like to hang out very much.

01:17:33.000 How old were you?

01:17:34.000 Like four, five?

01:17:35.000 Yeah, I was like...

01:17:36.000 I mean, when you say little, I think of little kids.

01:17:40.000 I'm thinking like around 17, 18, 19. I used to get in fights a lot.

01:17:45.000 Were you training then?

01:17:46.000 No, I wasn't training until I was, you know, I'm sure I did get into a couple of fights after I started training, but they had started to like go away by that time.

01:17:54.000 So you're getting in like unskillful training fights?

01:17:56.000 No, like before, yeah, before it wasn't with any training.

01:18:00.000 I would just get like...

01:18:01.000 Just wild.

01:18:01.000 Yeah, like, for some reason I'd go into a bar when I was like, you know, in Vegas.

01:18:07.000 Actually, you know, this had to be up until 21. So when did I start training?

01:18:11.000 I started training when I was 21. I met Kevin when I was 19. That's where I'm going wrong.

01:18:14.000 Because we got in a bunch of fights when we were younger.

01:18:17.000 We would get jumped at parties.

01:18:19.000 Really?

01:18:19.000 It was all the time in Vegas.

01:18:20.000 I don't know how anybody's ever escaped getting punched during a fight.

01:18:23.000 Like, we could not escape it.

01:18:25.000 Is Vegas just a wild place to grow up?

01:18:26.000 I think it was then, and I think more people train now, so it's a little bit more risky.

01:18:32.000 Yeah, but when we were growing up, it was like, oh man.

01:18:36.000 Yeah, you pick a fight with a rando today, good luck. 1.00

01:18:39.000 I don't pick a fight.

01:18:39.000 No, I know you wouldn't, but you can fight.

01:18:41.000 But I'm saying, if you're a person and you pick a fight with some rando, you might get fucked up. 0.98

01:18:45.000 You might run into the wrong dude. 0.96

01:18:46.000 Yeah, everybody trains now. 0.98

01:18:48.000 Get your legs broken. 0.98

01:18:49.000 Yeah, but then it wasn't like that, so we would go out and I'd just be sitting there doing nothing and some, it's always like the meanest, baddest bitch in the room would come up and be like, you know, you're looking at my boyfriend and I'd be like, you have a boyfriend? 1.00

01:19:05.000 Like, I don't think so. 0.90

01:19:06.000 I'm like, where is he?

01:19:08.000 And then, like, next, like, cut to in the parking lot, you know, like, wearing full white one time, I was wearing a white outfit, and I, like, got in this massive fight, and I mounted her and did all of that, and, you know, didn't even know what that was at the time, and then I come back in,

01:19:23.000 my hair is a fro, and I've got, like, all of this asphalt down my, you know, nice white clothes, and I just, I don't know why it would always end up like that, but Me and Kevin jumped at a house party.

01:19:35.000 So it probably wasn't like a big surprise to some people that you went on to become an MMA fighter.

01:19:40.000 Not my family.

01:19:41.000 My family just tried to make it not happen.

01:19:45.000 So my family, they're kind of well-known in Nevada.

01:19:52.000 When I had my first professional fight in MMA against Leticia Espistova, she didn't have any business being in there, but they didn't know that. 1.00

01:20:00.000 It was the first sanctioned fight in Las Vegas for women. 0.96

01:20:03.000 And I had my Papa Don and my dad, who used to be on the Athletic Commission back then.

01:20:09.000 Is Papa Don, is that like your grandpa?

01:20:11.000 Yeah, my grandfather, my dad's dad.

01:20:13.000 And then my dad, who used to be on the athletic commission during when Tyson had his ear bitten off.

01:20:20.000 He bit off Holyfield's ear.

01:20:22.000 Yeah.

01:20:22.000 Yeah, sorry, backwards.

01:20:26.000 So they called the Athletic Commission and they said, don't you dare let, both of them did, don't you dare let her fight. 0.57

01:20:32.000 And so all of the Athletic Commission guys, they're like, well, we can't stop her from doing this, you know, guys.

01:20:38.000 Like, it's, you know...

01:20:39.000 And so all of them for the rest of my fight career would come up and be like, hey, remember when we stood up against your family and we told them?

01:20:46.000 And eventually my dad did come around.

01:20:49.000 How many fights did you have?

01:20:50.000 I had a total of, I think, 24. 12-1-1.

01:20:54.000 Do my math for me, 12-1-1 in Muay Thai and 7-1 in MMA. When do you think they accepted it?

01:21:03.000 Like how many fights did you have to have before they were on board?

01:21:07.000 I think they saw the difference in my life.

01:21:10.000 You know, I lost 30 pounds immediately.

01:21:12.000 I wasn't partying.

01:21:14.000 I was dedicated.

01:21:16.000 I was traveling.

01:21:17.000 We went to Thailand a couple times.

01:21:20.000 I think after they saw the positive impact that it had on my life, then they were like, oh, this is way better than her faking going to college.

01:21:29.000 And so I think that's when, you know, It's really hard, and I'm sure you know, it's really hard to watch people that you love fight.

01:21:37.000 I turn into a complete nutcase.

01:21:40.000 It's hard.

01:21:41.000 I'm so glad Kevin doesn't fight anymore.

01:21:45.000 Cowboy Cerrone was in my movie recently, Terror on the Prairie, and it was going to be hard to watch him fight because you just care so much.

01:21:52.000 And it's hard to watch people you love fight.

01:21:54.000 So it was really hard.

01:21:55.000 My mom...

01:21:56.000 My mom would like, you know, take a Xanax, you know, and then she gave, one time she gave Kevin like a Xanax and then she gave him another one.

01:22:05.000 So by the end, she's going to kill me for telling you this.

01:22:08.000 By the end, you just see like Kevin was just like, like barely able to hold up his head.

01:22:13.000 He was like, and I was like, yay, I won.

01:22:16.000 This is so much fun.

01:22:19.000 That's hilarious.

01:22:20.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 It's hard to watch people you care about get hit.

01:22:24.000 It's hot in here, right?

01:22:24.000 Is it?

01:22:25.000 Aren't you?

01:22:25.000 No.

01:22:26.000 You're not hot?

01:22:27.000 No, I was in the cold plunge before I got here.

01:22:29.000 Oh, okay.

01:22:30.000 I need to do that.

01:22:31.000 I do the cold plunge every day.

01:22:32.000 We have one here if you want to do it.

01:22:34.000 Yeah?

01:22:34.000 Yeah.

01:22:36.000 Since I'm going to go from this nice poncho to taking off.

01:22:40.000 Then you're going to want the poncho back.

01:22:41.000 Can I have it?

01:22:42.000 I'll have some whiskey if it's okay with you.

01:22:44.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:22:45.000 I heard that was the kind of thing.

01:22:47.000 Yeah, we do that.

01:22:47.000 We have a little booze.

01:22:49.000 Thank you.

01:22:54.000 What kind is this?

01:22:55.000 Cheers.

01:22:56.000 Thanks.

01:23:01.000 This is Buffalo Trace.

01:23:06.000 Real American whiskey.

01:23:07.000 That's nice. 1.00

01:23:07.000 It's real shit. 1.00

01:23:08.000 From 1776. Or 1773, rather. 1.00

01:23:11.000 You just got hardcore about your whiskey just now.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, they're older than the country.

01:23:15.000 This country.

01:23:16.000 This company, Buffalo Trace.

01:23:17.000 Really?

01:23:17.000 Yeah.

01:23:18.000 Wow.

01:23:20.000 Older than the United States.

01:23:21.000 How about that?

01:23:21.000 That's crazy.

01:23:22.000 Yeah, they're the longest continually operating distillery in the United States.

01:23:27.000 That's very cool.

01:23:28.000 Yeah.

01:23:29.000 Very cool.

01:23:29.000 Thank you very much.

01:23:30.000 They got a fucking buffalo on the bottle. 0.99

01:23:31.000 How do you not love them? 1.00

01:23:35.000 So are you enjoying your move?

01:23:37.000 I love it here.

01:23:39.000 Really?

01:23:39.000 Austin?

01:23:40.000 Yeah.

01:23:42.000 Yeah, this is where I assume my final form.

01:23:46.000 You're staying here for...

01:23:47.000 I love it here.

01:23:49.000 Yeah, I love it here immediately.

01:23:51.000 Immediately.

01:23:52.000 I was like, this is better.

01:23:55.000 The problem with comedy, stand-up comedy being connected to Hollywood, is there's a bunch of problems. 0.94

01:24:05.000 One of the problems is the same thing that you experienced, is that there's a lot of cowards in that business. 1.00

01:24:11.000 Damn. 1.00

01:24:12.000 That's been heartbreaking to see. 1.00

01:24:14.000 Sad. 0.98

01:24:15.000 They have to be cowards to exist in that system.

01:24:19.000 It's very difficult to stand up for what you actually believe and go against the grain because you won't get work.

01:24:25.000 I was thinking that the Babylon Bee became super popular.

01:24:31.000 And why?

01:24:32.000 Why did they?

01:24:32.000 Because they weren't afraid to make jokes about the stuff that was happening.

01:24:36.000 And I feel like you would get canceled if you even toyed around with making a joke as a comedian during the last two and a half years.

01:24:43.000 Sort of.

01:24:44.000 But not when you go to the clubs. 0.99

01:24:47.000 They fucking laugh hard. 0.98

01:24:48.000 People love the fact that comics are still doing real comedy. 0.99

01:24:52.000 But it was harder and harder to do it in LA because there were so many people that were just like mediocre comedians that were attacking good comics for telling daring jokes and pretending that jokes were in fact statements that you would make like on an affidavit or something.

01:25:09.000 Like pretending these people aren't just joking around.

01:25:11.000 And then it became, you know, this, This weird time where it's like people were digging their heels in the sand and they were dividing themselves from other people and attacking other comics.

01:25:27.000 It's like this weird thing infected every avenue of being able to have freedom of thought, which comics are, I feel like they're the freest thinkers ever, right?

01:25:39.000 I feel like comedians are that avenue of like, hey, let's break free and think about things differently and joke about it.

01:25:46.000 And to not see those people stand up and kind of push against the cancel culture and push against the norm was really heartbreaking.

01:25:56.000 And as well as like rappers, like where was our rappers and where was our artists and our musicians at this time?

01:26:02.000 I feel like they all went quiet on us.

01:26:04.000 A lot of people got scared.

01:26:05.000 They got scared, first of all, because their livelihood was taken away.

01:26:08.000 They weren't allowed to work anymore, right?

01:26:09.000 So they got scared about that.

01:26:11.000 And then they wanted to get it back.

01:26:12.000 So there seemed to be a clear path to get it back.

01:26:15.000 Get everyone vaccinated.

01:26:16.000 We'd go back to work.

01:26:17.000 So there was like this path that everybody thought they were supposed to be on, you know?

01:26:21.000 And also it's like, it takes a lot of time to be actually informed.

01:26:26.000 To really be informed about what's going on.

01:26:29.000 When I start telling people about the history of the pharmaceutical companies and judgments against them, and when you find out that they knew that certain drugs were going to have adverse reactions but they were going to be very profitable, so they released them anyway and then they were fined billions of dollars and killed thousands and thousands of people directly because of their decisions.

01:26:48.000 People are like, what?

01:26:49.000 And then you show them the stories and the articles.

01:26:51.000 They're like, this is real?

01:26:52.000 How do I not know about this? 0.99

01:26:53.000 Because you watch fucking CNN and they're not going to tell you. 0.98

01:26:56.000 They're not going to let you know that this is an important part of the history of medical science in this country. 0.99

01:27:03.000 And there's a lot of people...

01:27:06.000 During that time, that just wanted to go back to work, and they wanted to do the right thing.

01:27:11.000 They wanted to be shown as being a person who did the right thing.

01:27:14.000 They wanted to take photos with them with a Band-Aid on their arm.

01:27:17.000 Look at me.

01:27:17.000 I have a Band-Aid on my arm.

01:27:19.000 I'm a good person.

01:27:20.000 I should have just put a Band-Aid over their mouth. 1.00

01:27:22.000 Yeah, right.

01:27:23.000 They should have.

01:27:24.000 Well, they did that for a while, too.

01:27:25.000 Remember No Hate?

01:27:26.000 No.

01:27:27.000 Remember that?

01:27:28.000 They asked me to do that.

01:27:29.000 They wanted me to be a part of their campaign.

01:27:30.000 I go, hey, I go, I will say no hate with my mouth.

01:27:33.000 I don't want to cover my mouth with duct tape.

01:27:35.000 This is not a smart move and write no hate on my face. 0.99

01:27:38.000 The fuck are we doing? 0.99

01:27:39.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:39.000 And I think it's, well, hopefully the virtue signaling has had its day. 0.99

01:27:43.000 We're all exhausted over it.

01:27:44.000 It has, but it hasn't.

01:27:47.000 It's going to come in waves.

01:27:49.000 It's going to be like everything else.

01:27:51.000 It's going to be like COVID. I'm just going to stock up in as much whiskey as possible and be on a ranch in Montana is what I'm going to do.

01:28:00.000 Montana's where I want to go.

01:28:01.000 I love Montana.

01:28:02.000 I love it.

01:28:03.000 Did you go there to film that movie?

01:28:04.000 So this is what happened.

01:28:05.000 This is actually crazy.

01:28:07.000 So I was like, I can't stay in California anymore.

01:28:09.000 Basically, I think what you did too, you're just like done, right?

01:28:12.000 With California.

01:28:13.000 Is that right?

01:28:14.000 Yeah.

01:28:14.000 So I was just done.

01:28:14.000 Yeah.

01:28:15.000 I was like, I can't.

01:28:16.000 I feel classiphobic there.

01:28:17.000 So I lived in Hermosa Beach.

01:28:20.000 It was an amazing place.

01:28:21.000 But as soon as my cancellation happened, I mean, I had reporters showing up.

01:28:28.000 I had drones looking into my, you know, my place because it looked out onto the ocean and there was drones popping up.

01:28:35.000 There was people.

01:28:35.000 I didn't live in a gated community.

01:28:37.000 And so there was like people in vans and there was people Following me to places, and I was just very exposed, which was very dangerous of Disney to have made the comment they did.

01:28:49.000 What did they say?

01:28:50.000 They said, basically, I mean, we could look it up.

01:28:56.000 We do not support Gina.

01:28:58.000 We're not going to work with her anymore based off of her information.

01:29:02.000 Something about cultural and religious differences or something like that.

01:29:06.000 Basically calling me a racist and that I'm not accepting of other people's, you know, lifestyles.

01:29:13.000 That doesn't have anything to do with what you said.

01:29:15.000 That's what's so crazy.

01:29:17.000 You literally were saying the opposite.

01:29:19.000 You were trying to unite people.

01:29:20.000 Yes, I was.

01:29:21.000 I was trying to say, neighbors don't hate neighbors.

01:29:24.000 It didn't really come off like I thought it was, and I'll be more sensitive to that in the future, of course.

01:29:31.000 But I thought it was something that everybody could get on board with.

01:29:35.000 But they had a target on me.

01:29:36.000 They decided that you were right-wing.

01:29:38.000 They decided you were a Trump supporter.

01:29:40.000 In reality, reality it's like, I just am like open-minded being new to the political spectrum.

01:29:47.000 I don't know even how, I don't know how conservative I really am.

01:29:51.000 You know, I don't know how...

01:29:52.000 Well, I bet you're pretty socially liberal.

01:29:54.000 Yeah, I don't know how Republican I am.

01:29:56.000 I don't even know what those really mean and I don't really like labels.

01:29:59.000 I just know that certain people seem to be making more sense and more common sense and other people just seem to be...

01:30:07.000 Spewing out a lot of hate.

01:30:08.000 And for this moment in time, I will definitely be voting a certain way because these people are making sense.

01:30:15.000 The second those people decide that they want a power trip and not make any sense, I promise you I'll be the first one that says, this doesn't make any sense.

01:30:22.000 And I feel like that makes me somewhere in the middle.

01:30:25.000 Yeah, I think that's most people.

01:30:28.000 And so I had all these really scary incidences with stalkers.

01:30:34.000 And as soon as I got canceled, I lost all my hearing.

01:30:40.000 My hearing just went away.

01:30:42.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:30:42.000 What?

01:30:43.000 Just from stress?

01:30:45.000 Apparently that's not a thing.

01:30:47.000 It must be a thing.

01:30:49.000 It had to have been because as soon as it happened, I had earmuffs on me.

01:30:54.000 So it was 90% of your hearing?

01:30:56.000 Yeah, like 95. I couldn't hear anything.

01:30:59.000 And Kevin would be like...

01:31:01.000 I had a nervous...

01:31:02.000 My body reacted, I do feel.

01:31:05.000 So I had to have Kevin make me an ear doctor.

01:31:09.000 You know, get me in as soon as possible.

01:31:11.000 Yeah, and that was in five days.

01:31:13.000 So I had to stay...

01:31:14.000 Being canceled.

01:31:15.000 I couldn't talk to anybody on the phone.

01:31:17.000 I just barely got Ben Shapiro on the phone that night, but I was still kind of like, what?

01:31:22.000 Trying to hear everything he says, and everything past that had to be over text message, and I couldn't talk to my family.

01:31:29.000 And so we got into the ear doctor, and...

01:31:33.000 It's like a massive waiting room, and I'm like, can't hear myself say my name, you know?

01:31:37.000 So I'm just like sliding over, and I don't want to say my name because I'm trending on Twitter, and I'm like, just a packed room of people.

01:31:43.000 I'm trending on Twitter!

01:31:44.000 I don't want to say my name because I'm trending on Twitter.

01:31:46.000 So I was like, Gina Carano?

01:31:48.000 I imagine I was like, really, she's like, what?

01:31:51.000 I was like...

01:31:53.000 I was like, the name's on here.

01:31:54.000 I can't hear myself say my name.

01:31:56.000 Can you just look at it?

01:31:57.000 And she's like, oh! 0.99

01:31:58.000 And I could see her say, Gina Carano. 1.00

01:32:00.000 And I was like, oh, fuck me. 1.00

01:32:02.000 This is bad. 1.00

01:32:03.000 And she's like, we don't have you.

01:32:04.000 And I'm trying to get on a plane by Friday.

01:32:07.000 She's like, we don't have you in the system until next month.

01:32:08.000 And I was like, oh, my God.

01:32:10.000 I've got paparazzi chairs chasing me around the freaking parking lot waiting for me downstairs.

01:32:14.000 And so I was crying and I was texting my manager.

01:32:19.000 I'm like, please just get me into a specialist.

01:32:22.000 I obviously need to get this interview with Ben Shapiro over.

01:32:26.000 You can't fly when your ears are like that.

01:32:30.000 First of all, I about faced the paparazzi in the parking lot.

01:32:35.000 I was so mad.

01:32:36.000 I'm lucky I didn't get hurt.

01:32:38.000 But I got behind them and I was taking pictures of them. 0.94

01:32:40.000 Like a psychopath.

01:32:42.000 And I was like... 0.88

01:32:42.000 Jesus. 0.88

01:32:43.000 And then they ran off that way and I lost them because they had to speed off that way.

01:32:47.000 And so I went to a quick care and I'm sitting there just crying in the parking lot like, this is awful.

01:32:55.000 What if this is permanent?

01:32:56.000 By the sixth day of this, you feel like this might be permanent and you're never going to hear again.

01:33:00.000 Yeah.

01:33:00.000 Six days of that?

01:33:01.000 How long did it ultimately last?

01:33:03.000 I went into the quick care.

01:33:04.000 So I've got an appointment with the specialist.

01:33:06.000 I went into the quick care and there was a sweet, sweet little like gay guy who's just like, oh honey, and I could see his, I could, you know, all the, oh honey, it's okay.

01:33:15.000 That's what he looked like.

01:33:16.000 And I was like, is this permanent?

01:33:18.000 You know, and he's like, you just got a little wax in there.

01:33:20.000 And I'm like, wax?

01:33:23.000 He's like, yeah, you'll be fine.

01:33:26.000 That's how like quiet it was to me, you know, and I was like, Gosh, I can be normal today.

01:33:31.000 And they just went in and flushed it out.

01:33:34.000 And it was like, hearing never felt so strong in my life.

01:33:38.000 And it was hurting my ears because everything I could hear.

01:33:40.000 That was an urgent care?

01:33:41.000 Yeah.

01:33:42.000 They did that?

01:33:43.000 They just cleaned your ear?

01:33:44.000 They just take that, like, you know, the teardrop thing.

01:33:47.000 Yeah, they have to put something in there. 0.95

01:33:49.000 And so I was like, oh my gosh, how ridiculous.

01:33:51.000 I've been stressed out for six days over wax.

01:33:54.000 So you just grew extra wax when you got stressed out?

01:33:57.000 I don't know.

01:33:58.000 I had a surgery done when I was really little because I think there's like the tubes in your ears or something like that.

01:34:05.000 I don't know.

01:34:06.000 So my ears, it's really funny.

01:34:09.000 My mouth, my nose, and my ear holes, this is going to sound weird, are really tiny.

01:34:14.000 And so when I eat sushi, I have to bite it in half.

01:34:21.000 Because of the wasabi? 1.00

01:34:22.000 No, because the freaking massive, they're huge. 0.96

01:34:25.000 Oh, so your mouth hole is too small. 0.98

01:34:26.000 Yeah.

01:34:26.000 When I had mouth guards made for me, they said I'd have to do the child one.

01:34:32.000 Oh, really?

01:34:33.000 Yeah.

01:34:34.000 And then when I cry, it doesn't come out my nose holes.

01:34:38.000 This is such a weird...

01:34:39.000 When you cry?

01:34:40.000 Yeah, when I cry...

01:34:42.000 Like snot doesn't come out of your nose?

01:34:43.000 Yeah, so it goes back down into my throat.

01:34:45.000 Oh, so you start like...

01:34:46.000 Yeah, so I choke.

01:34:50.000 I can't cry too hard or else it'll build up in my throat and I'm choking and spitting out.

01:34:55.000 That's hilarious.

01:34:56.000 Did you ever have to get your nose done after fighting so you could breathe again?

01:35:00.000 Actually, no.

01:35:00.000 No.

01:35:01.000 I got in a fight at a hotel once and I got headbutted right here.

01:35:06.000 I don't know if you can see.

01:35:06.000 It's a little intense.

01:35:08.000 Pre-fight career or post-fight career?

01:35:10.000 That was probably right when I had started training career, when I was 21. You got head-butted?

01:35:16.000 Yeah.

01:35:16.000 It's a risky move.

01:35:18.000 Yeah, well, there was just heads flying everywhere, and I was at a hotel.

01:35:23.000 At the Peppermint Hotel in Reno.

01:35:25.000 Gina, you lived a wild-ass life. 1.00

01:35:27.000 I know.

01:35:28.000 You seem so calm.

01:35:29.000 I can't imagine you getting so many street fights.

01:35:31.000 I know.

01:35:32.000 I'm just...

01:35:32.000 I don't know.

01:35:33.000 I never picked one.

01:35:36.000 I don't pick fights.

01:35:37.000 I'm not good at that.

01:35:38.000 But I'm not afraid to obviously fight, you know?

01:35:40.000 People don't believe that.

01:35:42.000 When I tell people in the industry who don't know who I am, they're like, no, you didn't used to do that.

01:35:47.000 And I'm like, yeah. 1.00

01:35:48.000 Google me, bitch. 1.00

01:35:49.000 Google me. 1.00

01:35:52.000 Kind of a big deal, Debra.

01:35:55.000 It does feel like a lifetime ago.

01:35:57.000 I miss it.

01:35:57.000 When you were thinking about coming back, I remember there was that conversation with you.

01:36:03.000 There was a potential comeback fight with Rhonda.

01:36:06.000 Yeah.

01:36:06.000 How serious was that?

01:36:08.000 It was very serious.

01:36:09.000 What stopped it from happening?

01:36:10.000 So, I'm living in LA. I used to train out of Randy Couture's in Vegas.

01:36:19.000 And I had my whole group there, right?

01:36:21.000 I had Scott Berry, Jiu Jitsu.

01:36:23.000 I don't know where he went.

01:36:24.000 I think he's like disappeared into the woods or something.

01:36:26.000 Remember?

01:36:26.000 On the mat.

01:36:27.000 Yeah.

01:36:28.000 Yeah, he used to own that store in Las Vegas.

01:36:30.000 Yeah.

01:36:31.000 Him and his brother.

01:36:32.000 I don't know where he is.

01:36:34.000 He's like a mountain man now.

01:36:37.000 Chris Ben, he's a boxing coach.

01:36:39.000 Used to be an LV boxing coach.

01:36:42.000 Still, you'll see him.

01:36:44.000 Yeah, he's pretty great.

01:36:46.000 So I had my whole team in Vegas.

01:36:50.000 So when Dana White and Lorenzo, they invited me out, finally like, you know, this had to have been like five years ago.

01:36:58.000 They said, hey, we'd like to offer you a million dollar fight with Rhonda. 1.00

01:37:03.000 And I was like, damn, what took you guys so long? 0.73

01:37:07.000 What I told Dana and Lorenzo at that time was, you know, I don't have a team. 0.97

01:37:13.000 I don't even have an idea of a team.

01:37:15.000 I don't have a gym.

01:37:17.000 I don't think me and Kevin were together at that time.

01:37:19.000 I didn't have any connection into, you know, where I would do this fight camp.

01:37:23.000 And I knew, you know, with the weight and everything, it was going to take me a good time.

01:37:27.000 It would take me three months to get the weight stabilized, and then it would take me four months to actually be in, like, fight camp.

01:37:33.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:35.000 Just to get back into it.

01:37:36.000 I hadn't fought at that time in almost, like, a decade.

01:37:40.000 So I just asked Dana if he could just please keep it quiet.

01:37:44.000 You know, just don't bring up my name.

01:37:46.000 You know, give me the time to—a six-month time, and I—of course— That's reasonable.

01:37:52.000 Yeah.

01:37:53.000 It's not even reasonable.

01:37:54.000 You really need, like, a year, right?

01:37:55.000 Well, yeah, but I was, you know, I felt like I could at that moment.

01:37:58.000 I felt like six months.

01:38:00.000 Well, Dana, you know, Dana.

01:38:02.000 He was like, and I've got Gina Crono, and it's going to be against Ron Rousey, and he started pumping it out on Twitter, and he pumped it out in the interviews, and I was like, whoa, whoa, like, calm down, like...

01:38:14.000 First of all, I don't even know who I'm going to train with.

01:38:16.000 So now you've made it harder for me to walk into a gym and just get comfortable with people because now everybody knows I'm looking for a team.

01:38:22.000 I'm looking for something.

01:38:23.000 Right.

01:38:23.000 And it's going to be a very high profile.

01:38:25.000 And so now it made everything so much more difficult.

01:38:25.000 Yeah.

01:38:28.000 And, you know, like, that's where we didn't get along for a second.

01:38:33.000 I was like, dude, like, quiet down.

01:38:37.000 If you just quiet down, I can find a team and I can get organized.

01:38:40.000 And then he said something pretty aggressive of our text messages.

01:38:43.000 I'm sure you know he does that.

01:38:45.000 And I was just like, okay, I'm not going to do that.

01:38:49.000 It was very simple for me.

01:38:51.000 That was going to be something for me.

01:38:53.000 And I was excited to be back in that world.

01:38:55.000 And I was excited to do something like that.

01:38:57.000 I respect Rhonda.

01:38:59.000 And I thought that was exciting.

01:39:01.000 But after, you just can't go back in that world and feel instantly disrespected on so many levels.

01:39:07.000 So I was like...

01:39:09.000 I'm cool I'm gonna go and then I think another movie came up and I was like sweet I'll just go do this movie then you know like I'm not gonna I don't need to be disrespected you know so that's that's how that story went.

01:39:18.000 Do you didn't have any inclination to have another fight you just wanted to have the Ronda Rousey fight?

01:39:24.000 I mean, I think when you fight, you are constantly fighting.

01:39:28.000 I have a bag downstairs in my garage.

01:39:33.000 I'm on the treadmill and constantly fighting people in my head and having a comeback fight all the time.

01:39:39.000 How old are you now?

01:39:40.000 I'm 40. Do you think you would still do it?

01:39:43.000 I mean, I still can't even say that I wouldn't, you know what I mean?

01:39:46.000 Because you know Rhonda said that you're the one.

01:39:48.000 I know.

01:39:49.000 And honestly, I feel like she's the one as well if I wanted to, you know?

01:39:53.000 Let's go, ladies. 1.00

01:39:55.000 Let's fucking go. 1.00

01:39:56.000 If you wanted to do it... 1.00

01:39:57.000 Get me a dietician because I have to either do that or chop off my entire leg. 1.00

01:40:02.000 I'm sure there's people...

01:40:03.000 She said she'd fight you at 205. I know.

01:40:05.000 You know me, or you don't know me, but I would not.

01:40:07.000 It would be an equal-weighted, you know.

01:40:10.000 I know.

01:40:10.000 Oh, I'm sure.

01:40:11.000 It would be professional.

01:40:12.000 I'm sure.

01:40:12.000 I have no interest in being, like, a...

01:40:14.000 If you wanted to do it, though, now is, like, last call.

01:40:17.000 Yeah, and you know what?

01:40:19.000 When she said that, I'm like, you know, I'm so focused on my dreams in moviemaking, but I also...

01:40:26.000 I guess you just never lose that want to do it.

01:40:31.000 And for me, I've been looking for something to train for to get my body back and where I want it to be.

01:40:38.000 And so there's just been kind of this little thing on my shoulders like, well, you could train and you could get yourself where you want to be and use that as your focus for all that.

01:40:48.000 Where are you living now?

01:40:50.000 I'm not going to say because of stalkers.

01:40:52.000 But there's a gym?

01:40:55.000 No, not where I'm at.

01:40:56.000 Not right now.

01:40:57.000 But I'm very mobile right now.

01:40:58.000 So when I moved out of Hermosa Beach, I'm trying to get away from all the madness, me and Kevin moved into an RV. Oh, really?

01:41:06.000 Yeah, do you know anything about RVs?

01:41:08.000 A little bit.

01:41:09.000 So we got a new Mar, used the money from the house that we got, and bought an RV. And then we went across thinking that we were going to go shoot this movie called White Knuckle in Nashville.

01:41:21.000 Well, once I got to Nashville, they were like, you know, are you willing to play by the SAG rules and all of this?

01:41:26.000 And they could mandate it.

01:41:28.000 I was like, what does that mean?

01:41:29.000 And they said, basically, if SAG mandated the vaccines while we were shooting white knuckle, then anybody who wasn't vaccinated would have to get vaccinated.

01:41:41.000 And are you comfortable with that?

01:41:42.000 And I said, no, I'm not comfortable with that.

01:41:45.000 And that also means that we were probably only going to hire only vaccinated people.

01:41:48.000 And I thought that was like, wait, I thought I just got out of California. 0.99

01:41:52.000 And so then I was like, well shit, here we go. 0.99

01:41:54.000 I was like, what's the next option? 0.99

01:41:56.000 And is there another option?

01:41:58.000 I'm living in an RV at the moment.

01:42:00.000 And they were like, yeah, the next option is we instead go with the serial killer movie.

01:42:05.000 We'll put that to the side while the world kind of figures itself out.

01:42:11.000 And we'll go with a non-union Western, which ended up being Terror on the Prairie.

01:42:16.000 And so...

01:42:18.000 And this is the Daily Wire movie.

01:42:20.000 So that's what ended me up in an RV. Now I'm kind of going in between places because I fell in love with Montana and I really want to end up there.

01:42:20.000 Yeah.

01:42:31.000 Were you there in the winter?

01:42:33.000 Yeah, well, up in, yeah, through November. 0.99

01:42:36.000 Shit gets rugged in the winter. 0.99

01:42:38.000 I love it. 0.99

01:42:39.000 I'm down for that.

01:42:39.000 It separates.

01:42:40.000 The boys from the men, yeah.

01:42:42.000 Or the girls from the women. 0.91

01:42:44.000 Yeah.

01:42:45.000 Actually, like, the women up there are so freaking, like, okay, I have to say... 1.00

01:42:50.000 They're capable.

01:42:51.000 ...in a very attractive way.

01:42:53.000 Like, these women are still so, like, beautifully, like, fem... 1.00

01:42:58.000 They're everything that I would think a woman should be. 1.00

01:43:01.000 Like, they're feminine. 0.99

01:43:02.000 But they'll get on their horse, they'll go on a camping trip, they'll go hunting, they'll make their own stuff, they barter in between neighbors, and I'm like, I think that's really sexy.

01:43:17.000 I want to be a Montana woman.

01:43:20.000 But I also want to direct and I also want to give people like Cowboy Cerrone or like people that I can see have that magical something and I want to continue making art and movies.

01:43:30.000 So this movie Terror on the Prairie, this Daily Wire movie, has it been released yet?

01:43:36.000 Yes.

01:43:36.000 It's on the website?

01:43:37.000 You were kind of a big deal about that.

01:43:37.000 Yes.

01:43:39.000 They're like, we're going to have the movie out once Cowboy fights, which didn't happen.

01:43:45.000 Which didn't happen.

01:43:46.000 It'd be crazy.

01:43:47.000 Dana White's just like, it's over.

01:43:47.000 Two times in a row.

01:43:47.000 I know.

01:43:49.000 It's done.

01:43:50.000 We're not going to even try anymore.

01:43:51.000 I don't know why they don't try one more time.

01:43:53.000 Yeah.

01:43:54.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:43:56.000 Cowboy's going to do what he's going to do, but I think he really is interested and in love with movie making right now.

01:44:02.000 Well, there's something about him.

01:44:04.000 I mean, I watched some clips.

01:44:06.000 He's so authentic, right?

01:44:08.000 And that comes across.

01:44:10.000 His face is the face of a man who's lived a hardscrabble life. 0.99

01:44:16.000 I mean, he's been fighting for a long fucking time. 0.98

01:44:18.000 You can see it in his nose. 0.98

01:44:21.000 There's like a character in his eyes that I think would translate fantastic.

01:44:26.000 And that's what I saw.

01:44:27.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:44:28.000 I mean, he's so...

01:44:31.000 Not a great picture of me, but great of him.

01:44:34.000 Well, I always get the awful ones.

01:44:37.000 He is so...

01:44:39.000 I love that dude.

01:44:40.000 I know.

01:44:41.000 He is so authentic.

01:44:42.000 And so they had to, like, you know, because I'm a producer on this movie, they had all of the auditions of all the guys come in, and, you know, we're watching all their tapes, and I feel like Hollywood kind of gets a little too rehearsed, which is uninteresting.

01:44:55.000 You know, somebody's an actor.

01:44:57.000 And so I just felt like, well, we're doing this Western.

01:45:01.000 I've got a guy who I think would pop on film.

01:45:03.000 And it was a really big...

01:45:05.000 Like, I had to fight for him to get this role.

01:45:07.000 And they were like...

01:45:08.000 They're like, well, we love his look and we love his reach.

01:45:11.000 But, like, how is he going to be on film?

01:45:13.000 And I was like, I believe in him.

01:45:15.000 I believe he's going to kill it. 0.87

01:45:17.000 And sure enough, you know... 1.00

01:45:18.000 He's such a shit, too. 1.00

01:45:20.000 He comes to set and he just gives you the hardest time. 1.00

01:45:23.000 And it's all directed at me, too. 1.00

01:45:24.000 He talks so much shit to me on this. 0.99

01:45:26.000 I mean, the outtakes gotta be so funny. 1.00

01:45:29.000 But he's brilliant.

01:45:31.000 He's so vulnerable.

01:45:33.000 Yeah.

01:45:33.000 Just how he fights, you know, like he's a vulnerable person.

01:45:37.000 You never know how it's going to go sometimes, you know, with Cowboy, what emotion he's going to be in.

01:45:43.000 With acting, he was just, one time I came to set and he was all like, just like sitting down and like glaring at me.

01:45:49.000 And I'm like, what the, what, Cowboy?

01:45:51.000 And he's like, nothing.

01:45:53.000 And I'm like, oh, you think we're doing this scene where we're actually fighting or in a fight in like a couple's fight?

01:45:58.000 I was like, that's not the scene.

01:46:00.000 The scene is me and you actually getting along this time.

01:46:02.000 And he was like, Oh, we are?

01:46:04.000 And I'm like, yeah, we get along in this scene.

01:46:05.000 And all of a sudden, he turns into this loving guy.

01:46:07.000 And I'm like, oh, God.

01:46:10.000 He's method.

01:46:11.000 He's method.

01:46:12.000 He doesn't know this, but he is a little bit method.

01:46:14.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:46:15.000 But he's brilliant.

01:46:18.000 He's really good on film.

01:46:19.000 And I think that I want to do that more with people.

01:46:23.000 Is this movie going to be theatrically released?

01:46:26.000 It's on the Daily Wire.

01:46:28.000 Only on the Daily Wire?

01:46:29.000 What about, like, is it going to be on any of the streaming platforms or anything like that?

01:46:29.000 Yeah.

01:46:34.000 No, what the Daily Wire is trying to do is they're trying to draw as many eyeballs to their platform.

01:46:39.000 The more subscriptions they get based off of some of the stuff, the more they'll do it more.

01:46:43.000 And so this is, you know...

01:46:44.000 It's very interesting because what they're doing is they're creating a right-wing alternative.

01:46:51.000 They're doing stand-up comedy, they're doing podcasts, they're doing all these different things. 0.88

01:46:57.000 Ben's a pretty fucking brilliant guy. 0.78

01:47:00.000 He's amazing. 0.91

01:47:01.000 It's really interesting.

01:47:03.000 As a business model, there is a market for that.

01:47:06.000 People are tired of being spoon-fed one ideology.

01:47:10.000 And the thing is, if you look at our movie, it's not political.

01:47:14.000 Yeah.

01:47:14.000 It's just...

01:47:15.000 Just a movie.

01:47:15.000 It tried to be as, you know, just a genuine Western.

01:47:20.000 It really tries to be just what it is, a Western.

01:47:22.000 What is it like doing a film where it's going to be released in this, like, one part of the world?

01:47:30.000 Because it's like...

01:47:30.000 That movie is not likely going to get seen by people that are on the left.

01:47:35.000 It's very unusual in that.

01:47:37.000 Even though it's not a political movie, it's in kind of a political category because it's on the Daily Wire.

01:47:42.000 I think, once again, I think I'm at the beginning of something.

01:47:47.000 Just with the female fighting, I was at the beginning of something. 0.99

01:47:50.000 And people didn't take it seriously, and then all of a sudden we're creeping up and getting, you know, all of a sudden now look at female fighting, right?

01:47:57.000 So that is a similar feeling that I have here.

01:47:57.000 Mm-hmm.

01:48:00.000 And, you know, for me, doing art is just, you know, you know, doing movies is just what I want to do.

01:48:06.000 So it's cool.

01:48:07.000 It's cool that it's a start of a big movement.

01:48:10.000 And hopefully that will translate to making more people be able to have jobs, actors.

01:48:15.000 And it just I don't think a little competition hurts anyone.

01:48:19.000 No, I mean, look, the movie's good.

01:48:21.000 I mean, it's not bad for anybody.

01:48:23.000 Oh, did you watch it?

01:48:25.000 No, I haven't seen it.

01:48:26.000 That's why I asked you if it was out.

01:48:27.000 Oh, right, right.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, it's out.

01:48:29.000 Is it a thing where you feel like...

01:48:32.000 It's not like it's going to pigeonhole you into only doing movies for, like, right-wing people.

01:48:40.000 No, I don't think so.

01:48:42.000 I think...

01:48:42.000 I'm really bad at standing in boxes anyways, obviously.

01:48:48.000 My thing is art.

01:48:50.000 I just want to do art.

01:48:51.000 I want to make movies.

01:48:53.000 I want to direct produce.

01:48:56.000 That's my love.

01:48:57.000 That's my fight right now.

01:48:59.000 However that comes about, I have gotten a bunch of offers to be in Some films but I just don't have the energy to do things that I'm not passionate about that I don't believe in like the You know, I don't believe in the story I don't believe I it doing independent movies or any movie or any show takes so much work and so much out of you you have to be ready to sit down with that job for you know a year and a half two years and I just can't give myself and exhaust myself

01:49:29.000 like that unless I'm obsessed with it.

01:49:32.000 And once I'm obsessed with it, then it'll be amazing.

01:49:35.000 So has this slowed down the offers that you're getting, the being canceled out of The Mandalorian?

01:49:42.000 Well, as soon as I got canceled, as soon as Disney put out that, I feel like that very awful statement, that's defamation, if anything.

01:49:52.000 That same day, my UTA, my agency, dropped me.

01:49:57.000 Yeah, dropped me.

01:49:59.000 And my 10-year-long lawyers dropped me because now no money is going to be...

01:50:05.000 Yeah, I got canceled almost.

01:50:06.000 I think it's one of the worst cancellations in Hollywood history, which is what everybody saw.

01:50:12.000 I think that is wild that your agency dropped you for that.

01:50:15.000 Because this is not...

01:50:17.000 What you said, if you look at what you actually said and you show it, it's not that bad.

01:50:22.000 Well, and also my agents are like, you know, they've got James Franco.

01:50:27.000 They didn't ever drop.

01:50:29.000 You know, they've got, you know, these people have got like, they made such an example.

01:50:34.000 They try to make an example out of me and they just made an example out of themselves.

01:50:37.000 Like, why did they come down so hard on me?

01:50:40.000 I've got toys, you know, these little like Mandalorian toys.

01:50:43.000 They canceled them.

01:50:44.000 They ripped them off the shelves.

01:50:46.000 Toy companies.

01:50:47.000 All for what?

01:50:48.000 Because you represented Trump.

01:50:51.000 I wasn't even representing Trump.

01:50:53.000 What I didn't like about that is I'm representing being able to vote and have that be okay.

01:51:01.000 I know that's what you represent personally, but what you represent to them was Trump.

01:51:06.000 Well, that's their problem.

01:51:07.000 But it's also they're sending a signal by getting rid of you to everybody else that doesn't support the ideology.

01:51:14.000 There's a very strong left-wing, progressive ideology that's captured Hollywood.

01:51:19.000 And they just ended up showing their cards.

01:51:22.000 But do you know of anybody? 0.99

01:51:23.000 I mean, Chris Pratt, but other than him, who's successful that's not on board with all that shit? 0.99

01:51:28.000 I mean, a lot of people now come up to me. 0.98

01:51:31.000 There's not actually anybody that didn't see what happened to me and comes up to me in person in this business and out that has been like, yeah, that was cool.

01:51:38.000 They just say, man, you got railroaded and we're really sorry. 0.72

01:51:42.000 Like, that sucks. 0.92

01:51:43.000 Well, you certainly did get railroaded, but what I'm saying is there's not a lot of political diversity in Hollywood. 0.97

01:51:50.000 There is, but they're staying very quiet.

01:51:53.000 Yeah, but that's not real then.

01:51:57.000 What they think of as the political ideology that's acceptable in Hollywood is hardcore left.

01:52:04.000 Has it always been like this?

01:52:05.000 No.

01:52:06.000 I never knew that it was an okay to...

01:52:09.000 I thought, once you say that you vote, then you...

01:52:12.000 I mean, I've been seeing the other...

01:52:15.000 I've been seeing the left, like, rage against this president, President Trump.

01:52:19.000 Like, death threats and all this crazy aggressive stuff, you know, and it was completely acceptable.

01:52:26.000 Yeah.

01:52:26.000 And now it's like, I voted.

01:52:29.000 Yeah.

01:52:29.000 And it's like, get her out of here!

01:52:31.000 And I'm like...

01:52:32.000 It's a first-time vote, and I just think that, you know, like, we should all be okay with, you know, when you sign on to be an actress, you don't sign your rights away, and I feel like that's when you feel like your country is going through a really dark phase of cancel culture that's going to lead to a social credit system that's going to lead to,

01:52:49.000 you know, people undeservingly losing their jobs and pressure and real bullying, then I feel like it's okay to say something.

01:52:56.000 It should be okay to say something.

01:52:57.000 It used to be okay to be a right-wing person in Hollywood.

01:53:00.000 I mean, look at Bruce Willis, look at Sylvester Stallone or Arnold Schwarzenegger.

01:53:04.000 Those guys were all thought of as like right-wing guys.

01:53:06.000 Oh, I didn't know.

01:53:08.000 I mean, Arnold Schwarzenegger was the governor of California as a Republican.

01:53:08.000 Yes.

01:53:13.000 Oh, was he?

01:53:14.000 Yeah, Gray Davis got recalled.

01:53:15.000 Gray Davis got recalled.

01:53:17.000 Arnold took over.

01:53:18.000 And he was a Republican.

01:53:19.000 Oh, I thought he was a Democrat.

01:53:20.000 Oh, okay.

01:53:21.000 No, no.

01:53:22.000 He is now, though.

01:53:23.000 He's a massive...

01:53:24.000 He's an actor.

01:53:25.000 Yeah.

01:53:26.000 You know, that's what he is. 1.00

01:53:27.000 It's like, you know, when he was like, fuck your freedoms. 1.00

01:53:30.000 Oh, yeah, that was awful. 1.00

01:53:31.000 Come on, man.

01:53:32.000 But that's a lot of old people. 1.00

01:53:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:53:34.000 Old people get goofy. 0.99

01:53:36.000 They get scared.

01:53:37.000 They got real scared with the vaccines and the masks and all that stuff.

01:53:41.000 And that's okay.

01:53:42.000 Because it's more of an existential threat to them.

01:53:44.000 It's a real threat to them.

01:53:46.000 22-year-old people did not freak out too much about COVID. 22-year-old gym rats were not freaking out about COVID. Those are the least vulnerable.

01:53:53.000 Who's the most vulnerable?

01:53:55.000 Older folks. 0.97

01:53:56.000 So a guy like him.

01:53:57.000 And I still don't think, like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg came out and said something super aggressive on The View about the Holocaust and about Jewish people, and it was, like, far more, like, crazy aggressive than anything.

01:54:09.000 But I don't think it was aggressive. 0.95

01:54:10.000 It was just ignorant. 0.97

01:54:11.000 It was just... 0.98

01:54:12.000 That was not- Factually incorrect.

01:54:15.000 Right.

01:54:15.000 You know what she got?

01:54:16.000 Provably factually.

01:54:17.000 She got suspended for a couple weeks.

01:54:18.000 She got a slap on the hand.

01:54:19.000 Yeah.

01:54:19.000 And I'm not trying to call myself Whoopi Goldberg or anything.

01:54:22.000 I know what you're saying.

01:54:23.000 The rules are not applying to both sides, basically.

01:54:28.000 No.

01:54:28.000 No, they're definitely not.

01:54:29.000 And they're showing us that, and it's pretty aggressive.

01:54:31.000 I think that there is room for healing.

01:54:34.000 I'd hope so, or else we're just going to stay in this hateful place.

01:54:38.000 So I'd hope that people start breaking down what's really going on here and learn to have conversations.

01:54:44.000 And I do think that by Trump not having the ability to act like presidential hurt in a way that...

01:54:54.000 We need to see our leaders be able to embrace the conversation, embrace debating, and it's funny as hell.

01:55:02.000 I think he was hilarious, but when he's sitting there in the debates, he's calling names.

01:55:08.000 It's not really setting an example of how we can debate, how we all need to be talking together.

01:55:14.000 So that, I think, was a problem.

01:55:16.000 But I also think, geez, man, what they were coming after him with, if he didn't say the aggressive stuff that he did, did he even have a chance in hell of surviving that?

01:55:28.000 When you get to a certain point, I think...

01:55:28.000 I don't know.

01:55:32.000 There's a problem in this country when you can't have differing opinions.

01:55:38.000 We have to be able to debate and have differing opinions.

01:55:42.000 But someone like Trump is so polarizing that he makes having an opinion that's different If you have an opinion that's different than what the Democrats have or left-wing people have, you're connected to Trump.

01:55:57.000 That's the problem with Trump.

01:55:58.000 The problem with Trump is not even necessarily his policy.

01:56:01.000 The problem is his personality.

01:56:03.000 You can't have that kind of personality and be a leader.

01:56:07.000 You can't be a leader that battles people on Twitter and calls your ex-girlfriend horseface.

01:56:13.000 That is not...

01:56:15.000 It's funny.

01:56:16.000 Who did he do that to?

01:56:17.000 One of them ladies that was accusing him of having sex. 1.00

01:56:20.000 Well, I look at...

01:56:21.000 Stormy Daniels.

01:56:22.000 I look at what we're going through now, and I look back at some of his interviews, and I think he was a comedian.

01:56:27.000 Oh, he's definitely a comedian.

01:56:28.000 He's got great timing.

01:56:29.000 And I also think that what he did was he broke the back of major news media.

01:56:33.000 I think that should be one of his proudest points, is that he broke them over his knee.

01:56:41.000 And he should be very proud of that.

01:56:44.000 Well, he definitely exposed the holes in the way they do it.

01:56:48.000 That strategy that they have of just only relying on him as a bad guy and attacking him for ratings.

01:56:56.000 When you saw when he got out of office and CNN's ratings dropped like 40% instantly, it's like, whoa, MSNBC, same deal.

01:57:02.000 It's going to be like that for a long time.

01:57:05.000 I just didn't think it was...

01:57:10.000 Who knows what he was dealing with, right?

01:57:14.000 Do you get offers now to do mainstream movies again?

01:57:17.000 Or has it come back around at all?

01:57:19.000 It's not really, because I don't have that agency.

01:57:23.000 Do you have another agency now?

01:57:25.000 No, I'm kind of just rolling solo for a little bit.

01:57:28.000 I'm a little bit scarred from the system.

01:57:30.000 I do think it would be nice to find somebody to kind of field some of these calls, but for right now, I'm really focused on creating and owning content myself.

01:57:42.000 You know, so things have a way of working themselves out.

01:57:47.000 I'm not, like...

01:57:49.000 I'm not too worried about it.

01:57:50.000 I just know I want to be surrounded with better people in the future, people that aren't just going to jump ship the second.

01:57:56.000 That made them kind of look bad more than anything.

01:58:00.000 No, it's terrible.

01:58:02.000 It's terrible. 0.98

01:58:06.000 There's a fucking real problem when someone can't express an opinion in a clumsy way. 0.99

01:58:11.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:58:11.000 Because that's part of being a human being, especially part of being a human being who's not a professional speech maker. 0.98

01:58:18.000 Right.

01:58:18.000 It's not like you wrote all that stuff down and thought about it and vetted it and then posted it on Instagram.

01:58:24.000 No, it's just like you with your phone. 0.99

01:58:26.000 Saying, hey, we're kind of fucked right now. 0.99

01:58:26.000 Right. 0.99

01:58:28.000 This used to be bad.

01:58:28.000 Yeah.

01:58:30.000 This is how people used to treat people in Nazi Germany.

01:58:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:58:33.000 They're like, kill her! 0.99

01:58:34.000 No! 0.99

01:58:35.000 What did you get cancelled for?

01:58:37.000 Telling neighbors not to hate each other because of differing opinions.

01:58:41.000 What I also like to do on my social media is I like to put out memes.

01:58:45.000 I like to put out quotes.

01:58:46.000 I like to put out things that a lot of the media would put on me what they thought I meant by it.

01:58:52.000 When in reality, I mean, because they wrote that up as, you know, conservatives are, she's comparing herself to, she's comparing conservatives to the Jewish people in the Holocaust.

01:59:02.000 That's not how I read that.

01:59:04.000 And all of them wrote up the, you know, the articles on that that said that's what I was doing.

01:59:08.000 What I was saying is, let's maybe talk to each other. 0.93

01:59:11.000 And so it doesn't get to a place that's, you know, The idea that it can't get to a place like that again is so ignorant. 1.00

01:59:18.000 People are so silly. 0.99

01:59:19.000 This mindset that we're past the Holocaust. 1.00

01:59:23.000 We're not if you're in North Korea.

01:59:25.000 We're not if you're in China and you're a Uyghur Muslim. 1.00

01:59:28.000 There's parts of the world right now that are under the thumb of a horrendous dictatorship.

01:59:35.000 Well, look at Canada.

01:59:36.000 Yeah, it's wild. 1.00

01:59:37.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:59:37.000 You can't be a trucker in Canada and you can't... 1.00

01:59:40.000 You just have to do everything Trudeau says.

01:59:40.000 Well, you can.

01:59:43.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:59:44.000 Or you're a misogynist and a racist. 1.00

01:59:46.000 When he said that, a lot of them are racist and misogynist. 1.00

01:59:46.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:59:49.000 Show me some fucking evidence. 1.00

01:59:51.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:59:52.000 You're just saying that because they don't want you to be able to enforce medical mandates?

01:59:57.000 Dude, the way that guy talks, okay.

01:59:58.000 He creeps me out.

02:00:00.000 I would do a fight in three months with that man. 1.00

02:00:04.000 Have you ever seen the fucking photos of him? 1.00

02:00:06.000 Him fighting? 1.00

02:00:07.000 No, comparison to Castro?

02:00:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:10.000 The big rumor is that his mother slept with Castro.

02:00:13.000 Yeah.

02:00:14.000 And I'm like, get out of here. 0.99

02:00:15.000 And then you see pictures of him next to Castro at various stages of Castro's life and his life, and you're like, holy shit! 0.97

02:00:23.000 If that's not true, what a coincidence! 0.97

02:00:28.000 Have you seen it?

02:00:29.000 We should definitely agree.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, pull up the photos comparing Justin Trudeau to Castro.

02:00:35.000 I just don't like the way he talks.

02:00:36.000 The way he talks is like, well, you know, just like, oh my gosh, man. 0.82

02:00:41.000 No, he's a fake smart person. 0.88

02:00:42.000 That's what he is. 1.00

02:00:43.000 He's a fake smart person. 0.96

02:00:45.000 I hope it's coming to him, though.

02:00:46.000 There's a series of images that show him next to Castro.

02:00:51.000 Yeah, that's a good one.

02:00:53.000 Like, look at that. 1.00

02:00:54.000 I mean, what the fuck? 0.99

02:00:56.000 How much more evidence do you need? 0.99

02:00:57.000 Make that a little bit bigger. 0.99

02:00:59.000 Listen, if I was a betting man, if I was a betting man, I'm pushing all my fucking chips in on the Castro. 0.99

02:01:07.000 Come on. 0.99

02:01:09.000 I mean, Jesus Christ.

02:01:10.000 Maybe it's a coincidence.

02:01:12.000 We investigated those damning rumors about Fidel Castro being Justin Trudeau's real dad.

02:01:18.000 2018, they did this.

02:01:20.000 Aren't they losing the power of press there as well?

02:01:22.000 What's that?

02:01:23.000 2016?

02:01:23.000 Oh.

02:01:25.000 I feel really awful for what Canada is going through.

02:01:29.000 I have a lot of friends in Canada trying to get out now.

02:01:31.000 I mean, people are escaping, right?

02:01:33.000 Yeah, they're trying to get out.

02:01:34.000 Well, they were under medical apartheid.

02:01:38.000 I mean, that's what it is.

02:01:39.000 Apartheid is like forced separation. 0.64

02:01:41.000 And they did the most—you know, and here's—so the truckers went out, and it was obviously like they had bouncy, jumpy gyms, and they had their children out, and it was obvious that they weren't going to burn down any cities, right?

02:01:51.000 And I think that that's where I kind of, like, I learned something with the protests that were happening with the BLM riots and everything.

02:02:00.000 I was like, oh, okay, so this is why they do that.

02:02:03.000 This is why this happens, is to put the fear of God in the government, right?

02:02:07.000 Right.

02:02:09.000 So the Canadian government was not worried about these truckers burning down anything.

02:02:15.000 No, but he was worried about it looking bad and losing power and then losing elections.

02:02:19.000 That's what he was worried about.

02:02:20.000 Yeah.

02:02:21.000 So my point there is I was a little bit unaware of why people would do that and cause such a scene and hurt so much of these cities.

02:02:32.000 And now I understand why they do it.

02:02:35.000 Not to say that I would ever encourage that, but I understand why.

02:02:39.000 Because after just looking at the trucker movement and how disrespected they got, it was like, dude, if they were a bigger threat down there, that wouldn't have been the case.

02:02:47.000 You know, who knows?

02:02:48.000 I mean, Canada is very different than the United States because it's much harder to get a firearm, much harder to get a handgun.

02:02:55.000 Even harder now.

02:02:56.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 Which for me is like, God, like I feel safer with my guns, you know?

02:03:02.000 I don't have the money for all that security that they have.

02:03:05.000 I have to, you know, feel comfortable and safe.

02:03:08.000 Well, that's what's crazy.

02:03:09.000 It's like they have armed guards.

02:03:10.000 If you really think that no one should have a gun, then maybe your guard shouldn't have guns either.

02:03:15.000 And by the way, criminals are still going to have the guns, but your guards won't.

02:03:18.000 Because that's how it goes when you change laws like that.

02:03:21.000 You would want to stop mass shootings.

02:03:24.000 Everybody wants to stop mass shootings. 0.92

02:03:26.000 You want to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people. 0.88

02:03:28.000 Everybody wants to keep guns out of the hands of crazy people.

02:03:32.000 But when you're doing a thing because you think that the ideology that you support wants to do that thing, whether or not it's rational or reasonable, like if you say everyone has to give their guns up, that's it.

02:03:43.000 But this country's had enough.

02:03:45.000 Criminals are not going to do that.

02:03:46.000 And we all know that.

02:03:47.000 And if you say that, people will get angry at you.

02:03:50.000 Like, you're a part of the problem.

02:03:52.000 No, I'm just being honest.

02:03:54.000 This is just my honest assessment of what I think criminals do.

02:03:57.000 They generally break laws, and when you have a law that says that you can't have a gun anymore, that's 100% a law they're going to break.

02:04:06.000 Well, they're going to create a lot more criminals, let's just say, because a lot of people aren't going to give up their crimes.

02:04:06.000 Right.

02:04:11.000 That too.

02:04:12.000 You're going to make criminals.

02:04:13.000 Yeah.

02:04:14.000 Yeah.

02:04:15.000 Look, it's a scary time for this country, but through scary times is how we sort things out and figure out what we should and shouldn't be doing.

02:04:21.000 And so I feel like, what should we do then?

02:04:24.000 We should have definitely more conversations like this, but what else can we do?

02:04:27.000 Because I feel like I'm always complaining.

02:04:29.000 I'm never offering enough...

02:04:31.000 Time will sort it out.

02:04:34.000 That's going to happen.

02:04:34.000 No.

02:04:35.000 Through social media and through what's going on here, but through brave people, you know, through brave people like yourself, people that have to have these conversations, maybe forced into these conversations.

02:04:46.000 If Elon Musk buys Twitter, that will have a massive impact.

02:04:50.000 Do you think it's happening?

02:04:51.000 I think it's happening, yeah.

02:04:52.000 That will have a massive impact because...

02:04:55.000 I feel like me and Elon Musk are in this really fun little, like, meme war that he doesn't know about.

02:05:00.000 You're in a meme war?

02:05:01.000 No, not war.

02:05:02.000 He puts out a meme.

02:05:04.000 Because my name has been associated with his a lot as people who are standing up against this thing.

02:05:10.000 Are there memes with you guys together?

02:05:12.000 No, no.

02:05:12.000 Memes like who's got the best meme kind of thing.

02:05:15.000 I'm sure the rest of Twitter thinks that they're in that kind of competition as well.

02:05:20.000 But we should tell Elon Musk, I'm in a meme battle with you.

02:05:23.000 The problem with Twitter is Twitter is they without doubt have shadow banned people.

02:05:29.000 They without doubt have silenced people.

02:05:31.000 They without doubt have banned people for having a different ideology than they do.

02:05:34.000 And they, without doubt, let people say horrendous, awful things to people that are conservative because they think it's okay.

02:05:44.000 They're not even in the way they decide what is acceptable or unacceptable.

02:05:51.000 It definitely crosses ideological boundaries. 0.99

02:05:54.000 There's an ideological box that you can operate in where you can say some pretty fucking horrendous shit, but if you say horrendous shit to people that you think are against trans rights, you could say that. 1.00

02:06:04.000 If you say horrendous shit to people that are anti-vaccine, you're allowed to say that. 1.00

02:06:09.000 You're allowed to mock their deaths. 1.00

02:06:11.000 You're allowed to hope they die. 0.99

02:06:13.000 You're allowed to say all kinds of terrible things.

02:06:15.000 You're allowed to let it trend on Twitter and take somebody's job.

02:06:19.000 I mean, I worked 10 years in fighting and I worked 10 years in acting.

02:06:23.000 I never have had a handout.

02:06:25.000 I've never compromised myself.

02:06:26.000 I've done nothing but like...

02:06:28.000 Show up to set and absolutely give every part of me to that movie or that show and with my full heart, you know.

02:06:36.000 Meanwhile, I've got co-stars that aren't even allowed to come to set unless they have two security guards.

02:06:41.000 I mean, the shit I've seen, like, I'm a good person to work with and because I didn't toe the line in the narrative, I lose everything and I have to start from scratch and Well, you could probably have said that, 0.86

02:06:56.000 what you said, at any other time in history, and people would have kind of understood what you were doing. 0.98

02:07:01.000 But post-Trump, the world is...

02:07:03.000 Like, if you said that in 2014, I think people would have disagreed with you on certain aspects of it.

02:07:09.000 Maybe people would have complained, but I don't think you would have gotten fired.

02:07:12.000 I think it's a post-Trump reality.

02:07:15.000 Yeah.

02:07:16.000 And I think we need to...

02:07:17.000 Like, when I was voting, I didn't like the word, you know, like, I didn't like the word Trumper.

02:07:24.000 You know what I mean?

02:07:24.000 I felt like that was kind of counterproductive to, I'm voting conservative.

02:07:29.000 And it's nothing against Trump.

02:07:30.000 It's just, I felt like it was counterproductive to, like, you know, oh, okay, you're Democrat, you're Republican.

02:07:36.000 Once you start putting these, like...

02:07:50.000 They don't have one.

02:07:52.000 They don't have one for Biden.

02:07:54.000 Was there an Obama-er?

02:07:57.000 There was not like Obama people. 0.54

02:07:59.000 Well, see, when Obama came into power, I was like, that's cool.

02:08:02.000 He seems like he's a well-spoken dude that's gonna...

02:08:07.000 Because I didn't know anything about politics, so I didn't know how he was affecting the world.

02:08:11.000 And so I didn't start paying attention.

02:08:12.000 I was just happy that...

02:08:14.000 He was a statesman.

02:08:15.000 He's a perfect representative of what you want from a president.

02:08:18.000 Yeah, so I didn't even vote in the Hillary Clinton and the Trump, the first one.

02:08:24.000 I was like, I'm not popping my cherry there.

02:08:26.000 Okay.

02:08:27.000 I'm not popping my cherry on that vote.

02:08:29.000 I'm just going to stay out of that.

02:08:31.000 It didn't seem like a good idea.

02:08:33.000 But when it came to the Biden and Trump, I was like, our country is going to be so hurting after we get done locking it down like we did.

02:08:43.000 And all of the emotions and all of this.

02:08:46.000 We need a powerful person to bring us back.

02:08:51.000 They're trying to push all of this agenda stuff that is really collapsing our economy right now.

02:08:55.000 The Biden administration is like, he could have really just brought back the country and then done that.

02:09:00.000 He's hitting us hard two times.

02:09:03.000 The recovery from COVID-19 and then switching everything over into this green energy agenda, right?

02:09:12.000 So it's like, we're getting hit twice.

02:09:15.000 With the gas and everything.

02:09:16.000 It's like, we're getting hit so hard.

02:09:18.000 He could have made himself a hero.

02:09:20.000 Come back, bring the economy back.

02:09:22.000 I think he has very little to do with what happens day to day.

02:09:27.000 So there's somebody behind it.

02:09:28.000 There's probably quite a few people.

02:09:30.000 And it's on purpose.

02:09:31.000 There's people that are doing it because it's profitable for them.

02:09:35.000 It's beneficial for them.

02:09:37.000 And they're realizing now that it's not.

02:09:40.000 This is one of the reasons why they're trying to move closer to the center.

02:09:44.000 And because they're realizing that this sort of radical left ideology is pushing more people to the right.

02:09:49.000 Because it really is.

02:09:50.000 Who are these people, do you think?

02:09:51.000 What people?

02:09:52.000 The people you're talking about.

02:09:54.000 The people that are in control of everything, these are what you would call deep state.

02:09:59.000 These are lifelong politicians that don't get elected.

02:10:02.000 They're not really politicians.

02:10:04.000 They're people in government positions.

02:10:05.000 If you think about anybody in the intelligence agencies, people that are in the Pentagon, these people, they don't get elected.

02:10:14.000 This is not like people you get to vote for.

02:10:16.000 You don't get to vote for who decides to take us to...

02:10:22.000 Well, you kind of do in that it's a president.

02:10:25.000 The president is the commander-in-chief, but the influencers, the people that step in and try to manipulate things to get us to do one thing or the other thing based on the amount of money that they're getting from these special interest groups.

02:10:38.000 And so these people, are they heads of corporations?

02:10:41.000 There's a lot of that, too.

02:10:43.000 There's a lot of the pharmaceutical drug companies, oil companies, energy companies.

02:10:48.000 What they're trying to do is maximize their profits, right?

02:10:53.000 That's what all these companies that are...

02:10:55.000 There's no reason for them to be investing in politicians if it's not profitable.

02:11:00.000 In the world economic form, then?

02:11:02.000 That's bizarre.

02:11:03.000 That's the most bizarre one. 1.00

02:11:05.000 The fucking dude who dresses like Darth Vader? 1.00

02:11:08.000 Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum. 1.00

02:11:12.000 He can be in one of my movies.

02:11:13.000 He can bring his own wardrobe. 1.00

02:11:15.000 That motherfucker is wild. 1.00

02:11:17.000 He's like a bad guy in a movie. 1.00

02:11:19.000 Well, and then you can have Justin Trudeau and Gavin Newsom right there with them.

02:11:23.000 And it's like you got a full on...

02:11:25.000 This is an opportunity for the great reset.

02:11:28.000 Do you believe in the great reset?

02:11:30.000 I don't know what it means.

02:11:31.000 He wrote a book on it.

02:11:32.000 It's a real thing.

02:11:32.000 It's a real idea.

02:11:33.000 What does it mean, though?

02:11:35.000 I'd really have to go deep into the economics of it to understand it.

02:11:38.000 That'll be the next book.

02:11:39.000 That seems like I'm exhausted already just thinking about doing that. 0.97

02:11:42.000 I think these motherfuckers want to control as much as they can, and I think they would love to have a digital currency that's centralized, a controllable digital currency like they have in China attached to a social credit score. 0.98

02:11:55.000 So if they have a social credit score system, they can decide, hey, Gina, you're stepping out of line. 1.00

02:11:59.000 I don't think you should be able to buy a house.

02:12:01.000 And they'll deny you a loan. 1.00

02:12:03.000 And that is the kind of shit that is 100% going on right now in China. 0.99

02:12:07.000 And so how do we, like, let's offer some options. 0.99

02:12:10.000 How do we shake free of this?

02:12:11.000 Well, I think that's one of the reasons why they hate things like crypto.

02:12:13.000 And you and me.

02:12:17.000 Cryptocurrencies are decentralized, and the government doesn't have control over them.

02:12:20.000 They can't decide.

02:12:21.000 If everyone is buying computers and cars and stuff with Bitcoin, the government has no control over that.

02:12:27.000 They can't control what it costs.

02:12:29.000 They can't control how you use it, where it's stored.

02:12:34.000 You're storing it on a phone.

02:12:37.000 It's out there in the world somewhere.

02:12:38.000 It's not even a physical thing, like gold coins, like you can keep in Fort Knox.

02:12:42.000 No, it's not based on anything.

02:12:44.000 If they could figure out a way to have a centralized digital currency, they could control people much better.

02:12:50.000 Decentralized things, whether it's decentralized podcasts, decentralized cryptocurrency, that kind of stuff scares the shit out of them, because that's kind of like the internet.

02:12:59.000 What the internet is, is it changed the battleground because everybody gets to compete.

02:13:05.000 Now, what you're seeing that's negative about that is like all these people that comment on Twitter and all these mean people that are posting things and all the weird people ganging up on people.

02:13:15.000 See, that's the negative aspect.

02:13:17.000 This is where human instincts get involved in this revolutionary groundbreaking technology, which is the ability to communicate for everybody instantaneously all around the world. 0.97

02:13:29.000 So when human beings with our fucking goofy instincts get involved in this, you're going to see chaotic things like that. 0.97

02:13:34.000 You're going to see gangs, people bullying people. 0.99

02:13:38.000 You're going to see pylons.

02:13:40.000 You're going to see virtue signaling. 0.99

02:13:41.000 You're going to see all the weird shit that you see right now. 0.99

02:13:44.000 And I think you're going to see these companies and government. 0.98

02:13:48.000 I think you're going to see them employ some bots, which is why I think what Elon Musk is trying to do and get rid of the bots is...

02:13:55.000 So important.

02:13:56.000 It's very important.

02:13:57.000 Because what happens is, and I have a whole email to these publicists, you know, I was like, do you guys see what's happening?

02:14:02.000 What's happening is I'm getting attacked from bots employed by, who knows, a company, I believe.

02:14:08.000 And they employ the bots, and then the bots kind of grab a hold of the younger generation.

02:14:13.000 And they manipulate the younger generation into, you know...

02:14:17.000 We're good to go.

02:14:38.000 Then that makes it to the Hollywood news.

02:14:40.000 Once it made it to the Hollywood news, now it's going to make it to the major news.

02:14:44.000 And the publicist would tell me, just something ridiculous, like, well, Gina, this Vanity Fair article isn't a great look.

02:14:52.000 And then I'd be like, well, let me show you who wrote that.

02:14:55.000 And I'd go check the girl's Twitter, and I'd be like, this girl tweeted three weeks before this article came out that she was going to, on purpose, she was like, I don't know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to say something.

02:15:05.000 And she's a writer for, I believe it's Vanity Fair.

02:15:08.000 I don't know what I'm going to do, but it's going to be great.

02:15:10.000 Meaning she's going to sabotage me in some way. 0.98

02:15:13.000 And so then, the day my episode came out in Mandalorian Season 1, the day my first episode came out, her article comes out.

02:15:20.000 And there's this calculated attack coming from Lucasfilm employees, coming from Disney, manipulating children.

02:15:29.000 Because they connected you with Trump.

02:15:31.000 Yeah.

02:15:31.000 Yeah, that's what it is.

02:15:32.000 You became the bad person.

02:15:34.000 You became a representative of the Trump army because you were conservative.

02:15:40.000 So if you're a conservative, you're the bad.

02:15:42.000 I'm not saying it's logical.

02:15:44.000 I'm not defending it.

02:15:46.000 But this is just an aspect of human behavior that gets filtered through this revolutionary, sort of groundbreaking technology.

02:15:54.000 It's heartbreaking.

02:15:55.000 But also, you get to do this.

02:15:58.000 This is also a part of the revolutionary groundbreaking technology.

02:16:02.000 You get to express yourself like this.

02:16:04.000 No one's telling you what you can and can't say.

02:16:07.000 You can 100% express yourself.

02:16:09.000 That is the good side of revolutionary groundbreaking technology.

02:16:13.000 Is that people like you- Until they censor this whole entire thing. 0.99

02:16:17.000 They're not censoring shit. 0.99

02:16:18.000 Listen, you get through. 0.98

02:16:20.000 Stuff gets through.

02:16:22.000 Ultimately, all that gets sorted out in the wash.

02:16:27.000 So you feel like it's just time that's going to take everybody to wiggle free a little bit and start fighting back?

02:16:32.000 There's going to be people that never fight back.

02:16:34.000 There's going to be people that dig their heels in. 0.99

02:16:36.000 There's going to be people that fucking get Pfizer tattoos. 1.00

02:16:38.000 There's a bunch of pussies out there. 1.00

02:16:40.000 There's a lot of people out there that are cowards. 1.00

02:16:43.000 And the moment things get weird, they fall apart. 0.96

02:16:45.000 It was really strange to see some of these rock stars like Howard Stern and some people that fought so hard during their day about freedoms and stuff and freedom of speech and all of this to kind of turn around and be like, let's send them all to the Mississippi River and drown them or whatever he said.

02:17:03.000 It's like, what?

02:17:04.000 It's a cautionary tale.

02:17:05.000 That's what it is.

02:17:06.000 It's a cautionary tale.

02:17:07.000 You can slap me right in the face if you see me 10 years from now and I'm like...

02:17:10.000 It's not going to be you, but there's going to be people that, you know, you live long enough, your heroes will become villains.

02:17:17.000 Yeah.

02:17:17.000 A lot of people just fall apart.

02:17:19.000 It's character.

02:17:20.000 Some people have some character.

02:17:21.000 They got a little character.

02:17:22.000 And then when things get real, they fall apart.

02:17:25.000 What do you think you're going to be in 10 years?

02:17:28.000 Hopefully, I'll be right here.

02:17:30.000 I like the spot. 0.99

02:17:34.000 Hopefully I'll be right here talking shit. 0.99

02:17:35.000 As long as I can keep my health. 0.99

02:17:37.000 As long as I keep working out, keep eating well and taking vitamins and being smart.

02:17:45.000 I think I'll evolve my thoughts, but my principles in terms of the way I look at things, of being as brutally honest as possible and as nice as I can be.

02:17:57.000 Those things are very important to me.

02:17:59.000 The opinions that you have will evolve and change over time because information evolves and changes, you change, your perspective is different, but I'm always going to be honest about my perspective.

02:18:10.000 I might be wrong about things, but I'll tell you when I'm wrong. 0.99

02:18:14.000 If I'm wrong, I always want to come in and go, hey, I fucked up. 0.95

02:18:17.000 This is wrong and this is why I thought it was that way. 0.97

02:18:20.000 I will never lie.

02:18:22.000 I will never lie on purpose.

02:18:23.000 I will never go out of my way to say things that are untrue, to paint a different picture of the world, or a picture of the world that will satisfy some company I'm working with.

02:18:35.000 I'm not interested in that.

02:18:37.000 And I don't have to.

02:18:38.000 So I'm just going to keep doing this.

02:18:40.000 I think that's why people really are drawn to you.

02:18:43.000 And I don't do this a lot, but this has been really nice.

02:18:48.000 I have to do a couple more after this, but then I kind of want to...

02:18:52.000 I think people know where I stand, where I've stood in the last two...

02:18:58.000 And by the way, I hope I'm wrong.

02:19:01.000 I was hoping I was wrong about a lot of stuff.

02:19:03.000 It's not that I sat there on my phone and thought, oh, I can't wait.

02:19:06.000 I can't wait to people start getting vaccine injured to prove me right.

02:19:11.000 I really wanted to be wrong about a lot of the stuff that I'm seeing now.

02:19:24.000 I'm proud of myself for the last two and a half years.

02:19:27.000 I can't wait to move forward and not have to talk about this cancellation stuff.

02:19:32.000 I can't wait to get back into art and really just sink into all of that and disappear into it.

02:19:38.000 But for the moment, I think it's been important, and I hope that more and more people understand, even if we have opposing views.

02:19:45.000 Patricia Arquette, I think you're phenomenal.

02:19:47.000 It's okay for us to exist.

02:19:49.000 She thinks you stormed the Capitol!

02:19:50.000 I know!

02:19:52.000 I know!

02:19:53.000 You know what?

02:19:54.000 People ask me, and I'm like, what?

02:19:56.000 Where were you?

02:19:57.000 There's a thing that happens to older women in Hollywood, and I'm just saying this in general.

02:20:03.000 I'm not saying this about Patricia Arkep, because there's multiple examples of girls who were really pretty when they were young, and then they get older and they become the most uninformed activists.

02:20:13.000 The weirdly uninformed.

02:20:15.000 Like, goofy Twitter activists. 0.89

02:20:18.000 I know. 0.56

02:20:19.000 I'm like, where are you finding the time? 1.00

02:20:21.000 Because they don't have a fucking life. 0.99

02:20:23.000 I'm like, when you wake up in the morning and I look at my verified ones. 1.00

02:20:25.000 Go look at Alyssa Milano's tweets.

02:20:27.000 Oh, Lord. 1.00

02:20:28.000 It's out of her fucking mind. 1.00

02:20:29.000 But this is what happens to these people. 1.00

02:20:31.000 They need something real.

02:20:34.000 Some real...

02:20:35.000 Fight some real cause, some real thing.

02:20:39.000 And it's probably inside their own head.

02:20:42.000 The real battle is probably in their own mind.

02:20:45.000 I know.

02:20:45.000 That's what I felt like.

02:20:46.000 I felt like I entered a conversation.

02:20:47.000 Something popped up on the news feed and it was in the middle of a conversation she was having with herself.

02:20:52.000 And my article just popped up.

02:20:54.000 Meanwhile, if you sat down and talked with her, I bet you'd probably have a reasonable conversation if she's not completely crazy. 0.95

02:20:59.000 I bet we'd have a full bottle of wine and we'd sit there and laugh and we'd have some similar stories and we'd have some very different point of views and it would be fun and I think it would be amazing.

02:21:09.000 And if you couldn't, I bet it would be on her.

02:21:11.000 What do you mean?

02:21:12.000 If you couldn't have that kind of a peaceful, civil conversation, I bet it would be on her.

02:21:16.000 I don't think it would be you.

02:21:17.000 I think you're a nice person.

02:21:19.000 I think you'd listen to her.

02:21:20.000 I think you'd talk to her.

02:21:21.000 I'm interested, actually.

02:21:22.000 Please talk to me about your perspective.

02:21:24.000 I really want to understand.

02:21:26.000 That's what we need in this world.

02:21:28.000 That's what we need in this world.

02:21:29.000 We need people talking to people, but also talking to people Without an agenda, just be honest.

02:21:35.000 Be open.

02:21:36.000 We can disagree, but I want to know why you think the way you think.

02:21:40.000 Don't just demonize people.

02:21:42.000 There are a bunch of Trumpers, or this or that.

02:21:46.000 Cheers to that.

02:21:47.000 I didn't vote for Trump.

02:21:49.000 I didn't vote for Trump.

02:21:50.000 No, I vote for Joe Jorgensen.

02:21:52.000 People were calling me a Trump supporter because I said I wouldn't vote for Biden.

02:21:56.000 Because I knew exactly what was going to happen.

02:22:00.000 Exactly what you're seeing.

02:22:01.000 This is what I called.

02:22:03.000 And I said, his cabinet's going to be responsible for everything.

02:22:05.000 He's not going to be able to do anything.

02:22:07.000 I'm like, he is deteriorating rapidly and the stress of being in office is going to be way worse.

02:22:12.000 I go, I'd vote for Trump before I'd vote for Biden.

02:22:14.000 That's what I said.

02:22:15.000 But I didn't say I was going to vote for Trump because I didn't.

02:22:17.000 And it's not...

02:22:18.000 Can I have a little more whiskey?

02:22:19.000 Hell yeah.

02:22:20.000 It's not like I'm sitting there wanting to make fun of an old man.

02:22:23.000 By the way, I have so much respect for the elderly, you know? 0.99

02:22:27.000 The last thing you want to see is like a freaking old man... 1.00

02:22:31.000 Falling down on his bike? 0.96

02:22:33.000 Yes, it was so sad.

02:22:35.000 I hate that.

02:22:36.000 Although, I feel like there's...

02:22:37.000 You know what's sad to me?

02:22:38.000 Children in third world countries that can't get any food.

02:22:41.000 Oh my gosh, you sound like Kevin.

02:22:42.000 That's what's sad to me.

02:22:43.000 Biden falling on his bike is hilarious. 0.98

02:22:46.000 It was fucking funny. 0.99

02:22:47.000 You know why? 0.98

02:22:47.000 Because he didn't even get hurt. 0.98

02:22:48.000 It was funny.

02:22:49.000 It wouldn't be so sad.

02:22:51.000 I would probably be a lot more sad if I didn't feel like the entire family is just like a crime, like, you know, just completely like sold out America to other countries.

02:22:59.000 So I would feel more sad.

02:23:00.000 But it's not like I wanted to see, you know, I didn't want to see this happen to an elderly, you know, person.

02:23:07.000 And to be honest, in the future, I think, you know, I would really like to see a, you know, a younger president who...

02:23:14.000 It has the energy and the drive and the passion.

02:23:18.000 I would really like to see that kind of person that really has the intentions of bringing conversation to the table.

02:23:26.000 You've interviewed Tulsi a bunch of times.

02:23:28.000 I love Tulsi.

02:23:29.000 She's incredible.

02:23:29.000 She'd be an amazing president.

02:23:31.000 Can you imagine if she was our vice president? 0.98

02:23:33.000 We'd be like, oh, we can't wait.

02:23:35.000 Yeah.

02:23:35.000 He's done.

02:23:36.000 Push him off a cliff.

02:23:37.000 No.

02:23:38.000 Oh, great.

02:23:39.000 That's going to be trending.

02:23:41.000 Joe Rogan, push him off a cliff. 0.65

02:23:44.000 I was saying that in jest, ladies and gentlemen.

02:23:46.000 Only in jest.

02:23:47.000 Was behind the bicycle incident.

02:23:49.000 She's unusual in that they keep trying to label her right wing, too. 0.82

02:23:53.000 She was literally a Democratic congresswoman for eight years. 0.99

02:23:56.000 She was a Democratic congresswoman from Hawaii, a woman of color, served and was deployed overseas twice in medical units.

02:24:06.000 So dealing with people that are blown up, She's a great person.

02:24:10.000 She's amazing.

02:24:11.000 She's an amazing leader.

02:24:12.000 And Ron DeSantis is so- Yeah.

02:24:14.000 But the thing is, they're scared of her.

02:24:16.000 Let's get that group together. 0.97

02:24:17.000 They're so scared of her that she has all the qualities they want.

02:24:19.000 You want a woman president? 1.00

02:24:20.000 There you go.

02:24:21.000 You want a woman of color? 1.00

02:24:22.000 There you go.

02:24:23.000 You want a woman who's a veteran? 1.00

02:24:25.000 There you go.

02:24:26.000 You want someone who served in government, was a congresswoman? 1.00

02:24:28.000 There you go.

02:24:29.000 Yeah.

02:24:29.000 I mean, while you've got Kamala looking like she's got some sort of secret gun held to her head to where she can't even...

02:24:35.000 Her sentences just go round and round.

02:24:37.000 They're great.

02:24:37.000 It's about the passage of time.

02:24:40.000 It's about time and passing time.

02:24:43.000 And that's why we have watches.

02:24:45.000 We have watches because otherwise how would you know how much time has passed?

02:24:52.000 Time is a fleeting time type thing that only happens when time passes.

02:25:02.000 If you just sit there, so let's be good to each other with time.

02:25:07.000 Oh my gosh, that was amazing.

02:25:09.000 That's better than hers.

02:25:10.000 That's better than her writing.

02:25:12.000 Yeah, that's way better than hers.

02:25:13.000 That lady just wings it. 1.00

02:25:14.000 She's just winging it. 1.00

02:25:14.000 No, do you think she wings it or do you think that she's... 1.00

02:25:16.000 Deer in the headlights.

02:25:18.000 She looks scared.

02:25:19.000 She should be scared.

02:25:20.000 She looks absolutely petrified.

02:25:22.000 She should be scared that they don't dig up her record and find out what she actually has done. 0.95

02:25:25.000 Yeah.

02:25:26.000 To find out what she's done to all those people that she kept in jail longer than they were supposed to be released, to use them as cheap labor for the state to fight wildfires.

02:25:33.000 That was my friend, actually.

02:25:36.000 Really?

02:25:37.000 Yeah, he was in one of those prisons, I think.

02:25:41.000 Yeah, look, that lady laughed about whether or not she'd smoke marijuana after she put people in jail for it. 1.00

02:25:48.000 There's some fucking evil shit that's involved in that kind of lack of compassion for human beings that she displayed. 1.00

02:25:56.000 And if we had a Tulsi right there, I don't think it would be a question. 1.00

02:25:59.000 I think everybody would be like, great, okay, next. 0.99

02:26:01.000 When Tulsi sank Kamala Harris during the debate, holy shit. 1.00

02:26:07.000 Dude, that was sexy. 1.00

02:26:08.000 That was sexy.

02:26:09.000 They thought that Kamala was going to be the one, and Tulsi was like, hang on a second, because here's what's real. 0.99

02:26:14.000 And when she said that, people were like, what the fuck, is that real? 0.98

02:26:17.000 And then they started Googling it, and that was the end. 0.99

02:26:19.000 That was the end.

02:26:19.000 She literally fell out of candidacy right then, until...

02:26:23.000 And then meanwhile, she was like, the stuff that she said about Biden when he was running against her was horrible.

02:26:29.000 But then she's like, it was a campaign!

02:26:32.000 Did you see that interview she did with Colbert?

02:26:34.000 No.

02:26:35.000 She's like, it was a campaign!

02:26:37.000 I don't know.

02:26:38.000 Oh, you're allowed to say things you don't believe during a campaign?

02:26:42.000 I mean, that's all they ever do, right? 0.99

02:26:43.000 Well, fucking cut me out then. 0.99

02:26:45.000 I'll never do that. 0.99

02:26:46.000 They needed somebody that wouldn't overtake Biden, and she's not overtaking him.

02:26:52.000 I think Biden, with all of what he's been involved in, and his son, and his brother, I think with all of his—there's no way that there shouldn't have been some sort of massive impeachment trial by now. 0.99

02:27:04.000 But they're keeping that shit out of the news. 0.82

02:27:05.000 Because they don't want Kamala to be next, so I think both the Republicans and Democrats were like, we don't want that next, so we're just going to hang out for a couple years. 0.99

02:27:13.000 He's not going to make it, though.

02:27:15.000 He's not going to make it.

02:27:16.000 The way I described him, I go, he's like going for a long walk in the woods with a battery with a week. 0.96

02:27:24.000 I fucked it up. 0.96

02:27:25.000 Oh, do it again. 0.99

02:27:26.000 Do it again.

02:27:27.000 You can do it again.

02:27:28.000 The way I said it, it said Biden is like going for a long walk in the woods with a flashlight with a weak battery.

02:27:37.000 Like you're not going to make it.

02:27:38.000 And he's taking America.

02:27:39.000 I said it the other way though.

02:27:41.000 I said it's like going on, having a flashlight with a weak battery and going for a long walk in the woods.

02:27:45.000 But that's what it's like.

02:27:46.000 It's like you knew going in that what he is is like this old guy who is Clearly suffering from some signs of deterioration.

02:27:57.000 He's been suffering that for a decade, as he said.

02:27:59.000 Well, he's had multiple brain surgeries.

02:28:01.000 He had aneurysms, like serious where they have to take the top of your head out and drain blood and then screw it back in place. 0.65

02:28:10.000 And then he's got a stutter, too, which fucks him up even worse. 0.99

02:28:13.000 So people think he's dumb just because he has this stutter. 1.00

02:28:18.000 It's a disaster. 0.99

02:28:20.000 And then we're almost in a nuclear war with Russia.

02:28:23.000 Russia's thriving right now, aren't they?

02:28:27.000 No, they're not thriving.

02:28:28.000 They're not thriving?

02:28:28.000 No, no, no.

02:28:29.000 I thought their economy was good in their...

02:28:31.000 No, no, no. 0.98

02:28:32.000 Their economy's fucked right now because of the embargoes. 0.99

02:28:36.000 Because of the sanctions. 0.99

02:28:38.000 That's some misinformation I've been getting then.

02:28:40.000 Because I feel like they're looking at Russia and they're like, okay, they're fine. 0.73

02:28:45.000 We're the ones that are suffering, but they're suffering as well.

02:28:47.000 Well, we are suffering, but they're suffering too. 0.77

02:28:50.000 The sanctions are fucking up the whole world.

02:28:52.000 It's a scary thing when the whole world is looking at this one superpower that decides to invade another sovereign country, and no one knows what to do.

02:29:03.000 And everyone's worried that China's going to do it to Taiwan.

02:29:05.000 Yeah.

02:29:06.000 Let's stand by and see what happens.

02:29:07.000 China didn't today or yesterday, they had the largest fleet of planes yet circle around Taiwan or something like that.

02:29:17.000 Oh, great.

02:29:18.000 I know.

02:29:19.000 What fun.

02:29:20.000 I know.

02:29:21.000 Yeah, so all this stuff is happening while we have a dead man as president.

02:29:24.000 Yeah.

02:29:25.000 You know, it's just not fun.

02:29:27.000 Are you throwing out any support towards anyone?

02:29:30.000 Are you going to hold off?

02:29:31.000 True.

02:29:32.000 Didn't Elon Musk come out recently for DeSantis?

02:29:35.000 Yeah.

02:29:36.000 I think Ron DeSantis would work as a good president.

02:29:39.000 I mean, what he's done for Florida has been admirable.

02:29:41.000 Look, I feel like I'm doing breaking news right now.

02:29:43.000 That wasn't even on purpose.

02:29:44.000 Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

02:29:46.000 I feel like what he did for Florida, a lot of people gave him a lot of grief, but ultimately he was correct.

02:29:52.000 He was correct when it comes to deaths.

02:29:55.000 He was correct when it comes to protecting our vulnerable populations.

02:29:58.000 He was correct in terms of distribution of monoclonal antibodies, and he was furious when the government tried to pull those.

02:30:05.000 They were trying to pull very effective treatments.

02:30:08.000 You know, he is not perfect.

02:30:10.000 He's a human being.

02:30:11.000 But what he's done is stand up for freedoms. 0.96

02:30:15.000 And people think that this was some weird gaslighting shit that went on where people equated freedom and saying the word freedom to, like, right-wing bigotry and hate is so strange. 0.86

02:30:27.000 Well, it was also American flags. 0.97

02:30:29.000 So it was like if you had an American flag on your truck, you know, living in California, That one we have right there.

02:30:35.000 Right.

02:30:36.000 People were saying that I was a right-wing person because I had that one behind.

02:30:39.000 It's over there now.

02:30:40.000 You know, we have the sign.

02:30:41.000 But that was the one that was behind me.

02:30:43.000 Why do you hate America, Joe?

02:30:44.000 Why do you hate America? 1.00

02:30:46.000 That fucking sign, that flag, I love that flag. 1.00

02:30:49.000 And that used to be the background of the show. 1.00

02:30:52.000 It got, like, it's like Trumpers.

02:30:55.000 Demonized.

02:30:55.000 Yeah.

02:30:55.000 And then all of a sudden those same people are now complaining about January 6th and, you know, it's just really weird.

02:31:03.000 It's really weird, like, the back and forth that goes on here.

02:31:06.000 So, like, they're burning flags, a bunch of the, like, hey, they're pro-burning flags, and then now they're pro-flag, but then they still associate it with Trumpers, and it's just like...

02:31:16.000 Pro flag, if you're like a diversity flag, you have to have a good flag. 0.99

02:31:20.000 You have to have a pride flag, or you have to have a BLM flag, or you have to have a fucking hammer and sickle. 1.00

02:31:27.000 People are out of their minds. 0.99

02:31:28.000 And most people, what happens is they have this narrow band of information.

02:31:35.000 They attach...

02:31:36.000 All of their ideas, too.

02:31:37.000 And then they join a tribe.

02:31:39.000 And that tribe enforces all of these ideas.

02:31:42.000 And if you step outside those lines, if you say, you know, I actually think Trump's kind of funny. 0.99

02:31:47.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:31:48.000 And they'll push you into the desert. 1.00

02:31:50.000 You'll starve without us.

02:31:52.000 I do think Trump is kind of funny.

02:31:53.000 I will say it.

02:31:54.000 He's funny.

02:31:55.000 He makes me laugh.

02:31:56.000 He's hilarious. 0.99

02:31:56.000 When he called Kim Jong Il, little rocket man, I was fucking crying. 0.99

02:32:01.000 I was fucking crying. 1.00

02:32:03.000 The dude's a wild man. 1.00

02:32:04.000 Oh my gosh.

02:32:04.000 And then like, you know, you kind of look back at some of the stuff he's saying, you're just like, I can't.

02:32:08.000 He's a wild man.

02:32:09.000 Yeah.

02:32:09.000 He makes me laugh.

02:32:10.000 He makes me laugh too.

02:32:11.000 Look, I think if he wasn't president, I'd probably love him.

02:32:13.000 Yeah.

02:32:14.000 I've never met him in person.

02:32:15.000 He used to be in every rap song.

02:32:17.000 They used to rap about him all the time.

02:32:19.000 Yeah.

02:32:19.000 People are always rapping about him.

02:32:20.000 Yeah.

02:32:21.000 I think come 2024, by the time the election is rolling around, people are going to be so sick of the way everything is going.

02:32:27.000 He has a very legitimate shot of winning again.

02:32:30.000 And I think people are going to be so tired of the way this administration's handling things.

02:32:35.000 They're going to want any kind of change.

02:32:37.000 And there's also a great compilation video of him calling exactly all the moves that have happened.

02:32:44.000 Him saying exactly what the ramifications of the Biden administration's policies are going to be for gas prices, what they're going to do.

02:32:51.000 They're going to come for your guns.

02:32:52.000 He said exactly the things that are absolutely happening now.

02:32:56.000 He's talking about gas is going to be $5 a gallon.

02:32:58.000 And it is.

02:33:00.000 Yes.

02:33:00.000 $7 a gallon.

02:33:01.000 He said $5, $6, $7 a gallon, and here we are.

02:33:04.000 Here we are.

02:33:04.000 Exactly.

02:33:05.000 The economy's going to tank.

02:33:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:33:07.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:33:07.000 He was so right on so many. 1.00

02:33:08.000 He was 100% right.

02:33:09.000 And the Russian hoax and all the stuff that he was saying, that is what I appreciated. 0.92

02:33:14.000 I was like, finally we don't have a politically correct guy in there, and he's actually telling us what's going on.

02:33:20.000 If COVID didn't happen, the economy would have been booming, and he would have got reelected.

02:33:24.000 Yeah.

02:33:24.000 That's what I think.

02:33:25.000 I don't think Biden had a chance.

02:33:27.000 If we weren't in the middle of a pandemic, that's where the really crazy conspiracy theory people come into play.

02:33:34.000 Because they think that they released the virus on a person.

02:33:37.000 I might be.

02:33:37.000 I think I am.

02:33:38.000 I'm trying to leave you out of this so you don't get more hate mail.

02:33:43.000 No, I really honestly, I'll say this.

02:33:45.000 I don't know.

02:33:46.000 I don't know.

02:33:48.000 I just, I think what happened, you know, I think the timing of everything was really awkward.

02:33:53.000 You know, I think that the blinders for me was, I feel like America's heart got broken this last, you know.

02:34:01.000 So a lot of us that were so oblivious to what was happening, it's like somebody pulled down the blinders and they went up and it was like, oh my gosh, like I'm not, now I don't trust anything.

02:34:09.000 You know what I mean?

02:34:10.000 Right.

02:34:11.000 I might be a little bit extreme when it comes to that because I just started paying attention in 2020. And I hate to see fellow Americans, I hate to see their heart broken the way mine's been broken and understanding that, oh my gosh,

02:34:26.000 so much has been a lie.

02:34:29.000 And that crushes me.

02:34:31.000 So I really just have a bit of trust issues when it comes to the timing of things.

02:34:37.000 I have trust issues when it comes to all of it.

02:34:40.000 I have to say, my heart is still open.

02:34:43.000 I'm not, you know, damaged.

02:34:45.000 I'm not bitter.

02:34:46.000 I'm just, my heart is open.

02:34:47.000 I just need to understand and keep having conversations and keep watching how things play out.

02:34:51.000 We have a real problem.

02:34:53.000 And one of the real problems is the representatives that we have in this country are disingenuous and really bad at it.

02:34:59.000 They come across as being these weird, artificial people that talk like this and use hand gestures that everyone else uses because they think it's the way to say it.

02:35:11.000 Have you seen this new White House press secretary talking about how the economy is in the best shape it's ever been? 0.99

02:35:16.000 And everybody's like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:35:17.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

02:35:19.000 This is what I love is when they get the thing out, which they got from that Kaylee chick, right?

02:35:23.000 And they're just looking through it and knowing damn well. 0.99

02:35:25.000 They're like, shit, where is... 0.99

02:35:27.000 Okay, I'm just going to... 1.00

02:35:27.000 We don't have that answer yet. 1.00

02:35:29.000 And they just keep going through their paper.

02:35:31.000 Well, Jen Psaki was better at it than this new girl. 1.00

02:35:33.000 This new girl is new and she's got to learn on the job.

02:35:35.000 Jen Psaki was really good at what she did. 1.00

02:35:39.000 I did not like to watch her.

02:35:41.000 The way she talked down to people, it was so disgusting to me, but she was really good at doing that. 1.00

02:35:48.000 Well, it's a battle, and that's what's unfortunate about it.

02:35:51.000 It's not a real conversation about facts.

02:35:53.000 It's a battle to try to win each conversation that you have with these people that are in the audience.

02:35:59.000 Every question, and this girl, she's not qualified. 0.99

02:36:02.000 She's not qualified. 0.99

02:36:03.000 She's not doing good at it.

02:36:04.000 But you can't lie like that.

02:36:06.000 Maybe in a way it's coming off better for them because she's not so confrontational.

02:36:12.000 She really looks like a gentle, cute little soul.

02:36:17.000 Did you see Don Lemon even questioned her?

02:36:19.000 Is the president going to be able to run?

02:36:22.000 We shouldn't even be having this question, Dawn.

02:36:24.000 You're asking me this question?

02:36:25.000 I can't even keep up with him.

02:36:27.000 I can't keep up with him.

02:36:28.000 You need to go to a doctor, okay?

02:36:31.000 Because you're young and healthy. 1.00

02:36:32.000 What the fuck are you talking about you can't keep up with him? 0.99

02:36:34.000 I know. 1.00

02:36:35.000 It's just lies.

02:36:36.000 They're just lying.

02:36:36.000 It's just a lie.

02:36:37.000 But that's what I'm saying.

02:36:38.000 That Kayleigh McKinney, that's not how you say her name, she was such a stud. 1.00

02:36:42.000 She was the best.

02:36:42.000 She was the best at it.

02:36:43.000 Such a freaking stud. 0.97

02:36:44.000 I miss watching her. 0.98

02:36:45.000 And even the way she was confrontational was pretty pleasant.

02:36:48.000 Yeah, and she threw in a little dig every once in a while.

02:36:50.000 It was so great.

02:36:51.000 She was great at it. 0.83

02:36:52.000 And why is Peter, what's his name?

02:36:53.000 Peter Doocy?

02:36:54.000 Yeah, Doocy.

02:36:56.000 Why is he the only guy that's asking any questions in there?

02:36:59.000 Or are they starting to?

02:37:00.000 I don't think they have many representatives of conservative news.

02:37:03.000 I feel like as soon as Jen Psaki got removed, now Peter is like, this is my moment.

02:37:07.000 He was doing it with her, too.

02:37:09.000 He caught her on a bunch of stuff.

02:37:11.000 He caught her on when they were talking about illegal aliens getting into this country.

02:37:17.000 Are you going to give them money?

02:37:20.000 The whole thing is...

02:37:24.000 Trying, I mean, the White House press secretary's relationship with the reporters, the whole thing is just trying to manipulate the view the American public has of each individual problem.

02:37:36.000 Right.

02:37:36.000 Like they're saying, if this is coming out of my mouth, right?

02:37:39.000 Like Biden's saying, this is coming out of my mouth, and we all just have to believe it because you're the president.

02:37:43.000 And he gets all upset and rages on his, you know, he's like, I am sick of these laws!

02:37:48.000 And you're like, you're the one.

02:37:48.000 He's out of his mind.

02:37:49.000 Holy word.

02:37:50.000 He's sad.

02:37:51.000 You're watching a guy that shouldn't be in that position.

02:37:54.000 It's not fair to let him be in that spot because he's compromised mentally.

02:38:00.000 There's something wrong.

02:38:02.000 Well, he's been compromised more than that.

02:38:03.000 But there's that.

02:38:04.000 There's that.

02:38:05.000 But I mean, his mind's not functioning correctly.

02:38:08.000 No.

02:38:08.000 Clearly.

02:38:09.000 And so it's sad because it's just like giving everybody an opportunity to dunk on.

02:38:13.000 And me as a comedian, I kind of feel bad.

02:38:16.000 I thought you didn't feel bad.

02:38:18.000 It's like I've been dunking on him.

02:38:19.000 It's like it's so easy. 0.93

02:38:20.000 It's like punching a blind guy. 1.00

02:38:23.000 Well, if that blind guy is selling out your country to other countries, then you better be punching the fuck out of him. 1.00

02:38:29.000 There's a lot of that, too. 0.99

02:38:30.000 But my point is, it's very hard for us to have reasonable...

02:38:39.000 Intelligent dialogues with each other when our representatives don't seem reasonable or intelligent.

02:38:43.000 Exactly, yeah.

02:38:44.000 It's hard.

02:38:45.000 You know what's going to be really awful and really funny and maybe comedic is you're going to get a bunch of celebrities who are just like, vote Biden!

02:38:52.000 You know, taking off their clothes, vote Biden!

02:38:54.000 They're going to eventually in five years, they're going to be the ones, you know, telling stories, Hollywood movies about this time.

02:39:01.000 I feel like, you know, five years from now, three years from now, hopefully sooner, people are going to tell stories about what really happened during this time.

02:39:09.000 They're going to try to gaslight us.

02:39:11.000 Yeah, they're not going to be able to because of the internet, because there's enough independent news sources, you know, whether it's Breaking Points or Kyle Kalinske or Glenn Greenwald or Sam Harris or Brett Weinstein or, you know, this podcast or whoever I get on.

02:39:29.000 They're not going to be able to gaslight us, but they're going to try to.

02:39:33.000 Look at the Vietnam documentaries on Netflix that come out.

02:39:37.000 Eventually these stories come out.

02:39:39.000 She compared COVID to Vietnam!

02:39:41.000 Cancel her again! 1.00

02:39:44.000 Don't you know 60,000 Americans died in Vietnam?

02:39:48.000 You know what?

02:39:49.000 Keep me cancelled for a good couple years.

02:39:51.000 It's just, you know, I don't want to be uncancelled at this point.

02:39:54.000 You might be right, though.

02:39:55.000 You might be right. 0.98

02:39:55.000 They might come out with a documentary that shows all the fuckery once Fauci's dead. 0.98

02:39:59.000 You know, he's 80. You know, he's probably not going to live that much longer. 0.97

02:40:02.000 Yeah.

02:40:03.000 I mean, maybe they'll go into depth the same way they went into depth with the cigarette companies when they did that film The Insider with Russell Crowe.

02:40:12.000 I have to write that down. 0.97

02:40:13.000 A fucking wild movie where you find out what was really involved in cigarettes. 0.99

02:40:18.000 It's based on a true story. 0.99

02:40:20.000 He's a scientist that worked with the cigarette companies to engineer the chemicals in cigarettes to make them more addictive.

02:40:26.000 And he lays it out in court exactly how it was done.

02:40:29.000 Meanwhile, these guys were testifying that cigarettes were neither addictive nor dangerous when they knew they were causing cancer. 0.98

02:40:35.000 Way back in the fucking 50s they knew they were causing cancer. 0.96

02:40:38.000 And this is what the problem is. 0.99

02:40:40.000 There's plenty of movies out there.

02:40:41.000 What are some other movies?

02:40:42.000 Radium Girls.

02:40:43.000 Oh, Dallas Buyers Club.

02:40:45.000 Yes.

02:40:45.000 That Dr. Fauci is directly involved with that story.

02:40:48.000 Yes.

02:40:49.000 And you've got these people playing these characters involved in these movies and you're like, and you don't see any of the...

02:40:56.000 They don't want to see it in front of their face.

02:40:58.000 Because people want to be able to sleep at night, and the way you sleep at night is by putting blinders on and pretending that we're all on the right road.

02:41:05.000 And when you're involved in a rigid ideology with left-wing progressive Hollywood, most certainly is.

02:41:11.000 Left-wing progressive Hollywood is a very rigid ideology that's not well-informed oftentimes. 0.97

02:41:17.000 You have a few well-informed ones, but there's a lot of these people that are just going with the fucking flow of the river. 0.68

02:41:24.000 And those people, it takes a long time for them to get weeded out, for them to crash into the rocks, for them to die, for them to move on. 0.96

02:41:33.000 That's what it is.

02:41:34.000 And then new people come along, and then they can look at the sins of the past, and they go, hey, you know, back in 2020, this is why they were lying about the Pfizer reports.

02:41:43.000 This is why they were trying to hide the data.

02:41:45.000 This is why they were...

02:41:46.000 The VAERS report is ineffective.

02:41:47.000 This is why they were trying to Influence doctors to not report things.

02:41:52.000 This is why they were trying to do this.

02:41:53.000 These are trying to demonize alternative medicines.

02:41:55.000 This is why they were trying to do that.

02:41:57.000 It's a profit thing.

02:41:58.000 So accessing information and the amount of people that are going to keep on being frustrated and keep on...

02:42:03.000 I feel like more and more people will start speaking out and be so, like you said, they're going to be so frustrated by this administration by the time it's done.

02:42:14.000 This has been a movement.

02:42:17.000 There's other streaming services, the Daily Wire, but there's more.

02:42:21.000 The Babylon Bee, five years from now, those are going to be big companies.

02:42:24.000 The Babylon Bee out Onion the Onion.

02:42:26.000 Amazing. 0.99

02:42:27.000 They're fucking so funny. 0.99

02:42:28.000 They're so consistently funny. 1.00

02:42:30.000 Because the funniest shit right now is woke shit. 1.00

02:42:33.000 And that's the shit that people on the left can't touch. 1.00

02:42:36.000 So as a comic, you're left without ammunition. 1.00

02:42:39.000 All the woke comics are fucking terrible. 1.00

02:42:42.000 I know. 1.00

02:42:43.000 They're terrible.

02:42:44.000 And that's why the funniest parody comedy now is coming out of the Babylon Bee. 1.00

02:42:49.000 Because what they're doing is poking fun at this most obvious, ridiculous shit. 0.99

02:42:55.000 The truth is funny. 1.00

02:42:55.000 It's true. 1.00

02:42:56.000 But it's also, it's like, it's the one thing you're not allowed to touch.

02:43:00.000 So they're running rampant if it wasn't for the Babylon Bee.

02:43:02.000 So what happens?

02:43:03.000 The Babylon Bee gets kicked off of Twitter, which is crazy.

02:43:06.000 They're taking a stand too.

02:43:07.000 They could take down that post and they could be back on.

02:43:10.000 Oh my God, it's mind blowing.

02:43:11.000 I do feel like we just got to keep wiggling free.

02:43:14.000 We just got to keep on making art.

02:43:15.000 And unfortunately, we're at this time in life as artists, you know, but also fortunately, right?

02:43:21.000 Because we can be at the start of something.

02:43:24.000 Really great.

02:43:25.000 That's going to make, you know, your kids.

02:43:26.000 I don't have any, but my nieces make it a better... 0.96

02:43:29.000 Are you going to have some?

02:43:30.000 You and Kevin have two kids.

02:43:31.000 No.

02:43:32.000 No, you don't want any?

02:43:33.000 I'm getting elderly now.

02:43:36.000 You maybe got a year left.

02:43:38.000 I looked at everybody while they were in, like, quarantine, and I was like, okay, that does not look fun.

02:43:43.000 Like, I just...

02:43:45.000 You mean trapped with kids?

02:43:46.000 No, I just, it just doesn't, I don't, I... It's just not for you.

02:43:50.000 I don't know.

02:43:51.000 It doesn't have to be for you.

02:43:52.000 I'm not trying to pressure you into having kids.

02:43:53.000 I mean, I feel like there's going to be a lot of kids that need adopting.

02:43:56.000 That's true, too.

02:43:57.000 And I'm very, like, my heart would be so grateful to do that.

02:44:01.000 But I do...

02:44:02.000 That's beautiful.

02:44:03.000 I got a little bit of a young spirit.

02:44:05.000 I want to travel still.

02:44:06.000 I haven't reached where I want to be in creating art and doing stuff like that.

02:44:11.000 And I also think I'd just be a crazy person.

02:44:14.000 Like, I'd be...

02:44:15.000 I mean, if the world keeps going in this direction, I'll be in prison if I had kids.

02:44:19.000 You know what I mean?

02:44:19.000 I'm just...

02:44:20.000 My heart would just...

02:44:21.000 I can't imagine how much your heart breaks thinking about the world that you're not going to be able to control once your kids are older.

02:44:27.000 But no one ever is able to control the world.

02:44:30.000 I know myself.

02:44:31.000 This is a thing that you have when people say, oh, I would never want to have kids today. 0.97

02:44:35.000 I'm like, oh yeah, why would you with all the books and medicine and shit? 0.99

02:44:39.000 We're here because people fucked before they had doors. 0.99

02:44:42.000 They made children when we had no rules or laws or languages and that led to us living today. 0.99

02:44:49.000 You're not going to be able to control the world.

02:44:51.000 I'm just knowing myself and how emotional Emotionally sensitive I can be.

02:44:57.000 I just, I think that it just, it petrifies, because I know what it is, love.

02:45:04.000 I know what loving your child is, and I think that it's just, for me, that's the scariest thing in the world.

02:45:10.000 Yeah, but it also makes you more understanding and kind, and it matures you.

02:45:16.000 I'm pretty damn understanding and kind.

02:45:17.000 I need to have children for that.

02:45:18.000 But no, it's a different thing.

02:45:20.000 It changes.

02:45:21.000 You should not have children if you don't have children.

02:45:23.000 I'm not saying you should, but it changes people.

02:45:26.000 And I think for a lot of people, it changes people for the better.

02:45:30.000 But listen, nothing is guaranteed.

02:45:31.000 Some people, it changes them for the worse.

02:45:33.000 Some people get crazy. 0.97

02:45:34.000 Look, there's not, you can't ever know what the fuck is going to happen when you overcome. 0.98

02:45:40.000 You can't be afraid of it, but I'm just. 0.95

02:45:42.000 Then don't.

02:45:42.000 Well, and I also, I love, I just want to, I really want to do art and I want to tell stories and I want to keep doing what I'm doing, you know?

02:45:49.000 So until like, it's like, let's put a baby in there.

02:45:52.000 Then I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna, or let's, let's get a baby.

02:45:56.000 Cause there's so many, so many children that.

02:45:58.000 Yeah.

02:45:59.000 No, that's, that's beautiful.

02:46:00.000 I definitely will.

02:46:02.000 I think it's going to be more on adoption is what I'm saying.

02:46:04.000 Good.

02:46:05.000 Do that?

02:46:06.000 So there won't be any more, there won't be more little troublemakers in life that came out of me.

02:46:11.000 Well, there still will be troublemakers.

02:46:12.000 You have a couple.

02:46:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:46:14.000 And I guarantee you...

02:46:15.000 Is the middle child the troublemaker?

02:46:16.000 Because I'm a middle child and I think...

02:46:18.000 Yes, my middle child is the wildest one.

02:46:19.000 Here we are.

02:46:20.000 Yeah.

02:46:21.000 But it's...

02:46:22.000 You learn...

02:46:24.000 I have a friend who's a yoga instructor and he said that he had children literally on purpose to educate himself.

02:46:33.000 And he said, he's a great dad, don't get me wrong.

02:46:36.000 But he said, like, I wanted to know, I wanted to educate myself through the development of other human beings.

02:46:43.000 He goes, I really thought about it that way.

02:46:44.000 I was like, wow.

02:46:45.000 And he goes, yeah, I did it like in many ways out of love because we wanted children.

02:46:50.000 You know, my wife and I talked about this, but also I thought it'd be a great way to learn.

02:46:55.000 No doubt.

02:46:56.000 No doubt that it's got to be the most powerful thing you could ever do.

02:47:00.000 It changed me.

02:47:02.000 It changed everything I think about life.

02:47:04.000 It changed the way I think about human beings, because I used to think of human beings as being a static thing.

02:47:11.000 Today was the first day I've met you physically.

02:47:13.000 And I would think of, if I never knew of you, because I did obviously know of you, I would think of you as you now.

02:47:19.000 And I don't think of anybody as...

02:47:21.000 I think of them as babies that grew up.

02:47:23.000 Because I've been with babies that are now people.

02:47:26.000 And I've watched life experiences and education and just all these different environments form and shape their view of the world and their personality.

02:47:36.000 That's what I think of people now. 0.98

02:47:37.000 So when I see people that are fucked up and even mean people and bitchy people, I feel sad because I say, well, that's a broken baby. 0.98

02:47:45.000 That's what that is. 0.99

02:47:46.000 I always look at people I don't really like, and I try to imagine them in their kitchen with a dog.

02:47:52.000 And if I don't feel bad for that dog, then I'm like, okay, they can have a little leniency. 1.00

02:47:57.000 But if I feel bad for that dog, then I'm like, fuck that person. 1.00

02:48:00.000 Well, some people need enemies, right? 1.00

02:48:02.000 And they create enemies that maybe they don't even have to create because of their unreasonable stance on things, the way they talk to them.

02:48:08.000 I really do think.

02:48:10.000 I'm like, okay, this person got to, you know, maybe she's a producer, and she's been through a really hard history, and I try to look at things reasonably.

02:48:19.000 I'm not just instantly hating people.

02:48:21.000 I don't do that.

02:48:24.000 When I meet people, then that's when I'm like, okay, I understand this person a little bit more.

02:48:28.000 But I don't go off of hearsay.

02:48:30.000 I don't go off of anything.

02:48:32.000 We should all be more like that.

02:48:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:48:35.000 Gina Carano, it's been a fucking good time. 0.98

02:48:37.000 Oh, thank you. 0.99

02:48:38.000 It's been a good time.

02:48:38.000 I'm glad I got to meet you.

02:48:40.000 I've always been a fan of you as a fighter and as a person, and you are exactly how I thought you'd be.

02:48:45.000 Oh, thank you.

02:48:47.000 You're going to be fine.

02:48:48.000 It's all going to work out.

02:48:49.000 I believe that, and thank you. 1.00

02:48:51.000 So all you haters, go eat shit. 1.00

02:48:53.000 She's better and stronger because of all this. 1.00

02:48:55.000 And thank you.

02:48:56.000 Thank you for being such a light, such a person that's going to, you know, I think one day they'll be making a movie off of you.

02:49:03.000 Don't. 0.98

02:49:03.000 They'll fuck it up. 0.98

02:49:05.000 Who would play you, though? 0.81

02:49:06.000 Who would play you?

02:49:07.000 Mario Lopez.

02:49:09.000 Bye, everybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 28, 2022

Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano

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