The Joe Rogan Experience - August 19, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2542 - Steve Hilton


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2 hours and 59 minutes

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180.37

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32,343

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3,180


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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
00:00:13.000 Come on, Nick, what's going on?
00:00:16.000 For people who don't know, you and I have been friends for, God, more than 10 years.
00:00:22.000 Yeah.
00:00:22.000 How many years has it been?
00:00:23.000 I think it's 14 years.
00:00:24.000 I think it's the year we got here, which is 14, 2012.
00:00:27.000 Yeah.
00:00:28.000 When we moved from England.
00:00:28.000 We met in Hawaii on the beach with our kids.
00:00:31.000 Okay, so what's your memory?
00:00:32.000 I was just thinking about that because I have a very particular memory of.
00:00:35.000 That my memory was that my children and your children were playing on the beach exactly.
00:00:42.000 That's how we met.
00:00:43.000 It was just they were like digging in sand, they were real little, they were the same age, and then we just said hi, yeah.
00:00:51.000 But I remember that okay, I have a slightly different okay, which is like that's exactly right about the kids, yeah.
00:00:57.000 Two girls for you, two boys for me, and your wife was there first before, yes, I think I was in the gym, and then I just remember.
00:01:06.000 I just like, remember, I've just moved from England and it's a whole different world and a different culture.
00:01:15.000 And I just remember you walking down the beach and I've never seen anyone like this before.
00:01:20.000 Just like, it was just an amazing cultural moment.
00:01:25.000 And then.
00:01:26.000 You'd never seen anyone like that before?
00:01:28.000 No, just the way you were, you know, just the way.
00:01:31.000 I remember thinking, who's this guy?
00:01:33.000 I remember I'd never heard of you.
00:01:35.000 And then I was explaining.
00:01:39.000 To people I'd met, oh, Joe Rogan, you met, Joe Rogan.
00:01:42.000 It was just an amazing thing.
00:01:45.000 And then the other thing that makes me laugh doing this is that we then did the podcast.
00:01:53.000 Yes.
00:01:53.000 At some point around then.
00:01:54.000 This is before you had any aspirations of running for governor or anything.
00:01:58.000 Exactly.
00:01:58.000 It was a long time ago.
00:01:59.000 I just moved to, I was teaching at Stanford, just a very normal kind of low key life.
00:02:05.000 And I really remember doing the podcast not knowing what a podcast was.
00:02:11.000 I literally didn't know.
00:02:12.000 So we came in.
00:02:13.000 And again, my experience was I'd been in England.
00:02:17.000 You know, I'd worked in business, run a restaurant or two, that kind of thing.
00:02:20.000 But most recently, I'd been in politics and government.
00:02:24.000 And so I did the media.
00:02:25.000 I was aware of all of that.
00:02:27.000 And so, you know, it wasn't like I was completely naive, but I didn't know what a podcast was.
00:02:32.000 And I literally thought it was like a radio show or something.
00:02:35.000 I remember coming in.
00:02:37.000 This was back in LA.
00:02:38.000 And we sat down and we were chatting for a few minutes.
00:02:43.000 And I literally was thinking, When's the next guest coming?
00:02:48.000 This seems to be going on a really long time.
00:02:51.000 And it's like 10 minutes and then 15.
00:02:54.000 Wow, this is a long time.
00:02:55.000 Normally you get like 10, 15 minutes maximum.
00:02:57.000 Right.
00:02:58.000 Half an hour.
00:02:59.000 What?
00:03:00.000 An hour?
00:03:01.000 Three hours.
00:03:03.000 I couldn't believe it.
00:03:05.000 Well, back then.
00:03:06.000 I really didn't know.
00:03:08.000 No one knew what a podcast was.
00:03:09.000 Right.
00:03:09.000 So what year was it that Steve was on?
00:03:12.000 Episode 509, 20.
00:03:13.000 It was June, July 3rd of 2014.
00:03:16.000 2014?
00:03:17.000 Yeah.
00:03:18.000 Whoa.
00:03:19.000 Okay.
00:03:19.000 2014, episode what, 09?
00:03:22.000 509.
00:03:22.000 So we're already.
00:03:24.000 Yeah.
00:03:24.000 509?
00:03:26.000 509.
00:03:26.000 So we've had 2,000 podcasts since then.
00:03:29.000 Incredible.
00:03:30.000 And wow.
00:03:33.000 12 years.
00:03:34.000 That's 12 years ago.
00:03:35.000 That's crazy.
00:03:36.000 It's crazy.
00:03:37.000 The other thing, just remembering, you know, I'd never really done anything public.
00:03:41.000 I was like a behind the scenes guy.
00:03:43.000 Right.
00:03:44.000 In politics and government.
00:03:46.000 And I'd just come out of that.
00:03:47.000 And I was very kind of cautious about everything.
00:03:50.000 And you were just talking like you do.
00:03:52.000 Which again, I didn't really know.
00:03:56.000 And you were, I remember thinking, oh, this is like, we're talking about sex and you were cursed.
00:04:02.000 I was like, wow, what is this?
00:04:05.000 Like, this is so different to anything I've ever encountered before.
00:04:11.000 But there we are.
00:04:12.000 Yeah, nobody was listening back then.
00:04:13.000 It was nice.
00:04:16.000 You could get away with so much more.
00:04:18.000 You could just talk and not worry about it.
00:04:21.000 And also, social media was not as dangerous.
00:04:23.000 I don't think you worry about it when you're talking.
00:04:25.000 No.
00:04:26.000 Well, I don't pay attention.
00:04:27.000 That's the key.
00:04:28.000 That's the key to my success.
00:04:29.000 Right.
00:04:29.000 This is like, don't listen to anybody, what anybody has to say about you.
00:04:33.000 Just keep moving.
00:04:35.000 Keep moving and don't pay attention.
00:04:37.000 I think that's obviously works.
00:04:39.000 Well, I think there's a lot of people out there that are crippled by other people's opinions.
00:04:44.000 I think there's a genuine benefit to having a bunch of other people's opinions of you and you get to see feedback, but there's just way too many bad faith actors on the internet.
00:04:56.000 There's way too many people that have the least charitable takes on everybody, the worst.
00:05:01.000 The worst, like public narration, like public narratives that they want to promote about anyone or anything, about any subject.
00:05:14.000 There's far too many people like that.
00:05:16.000 And it's a poison well.
00:05:18.000 Yeah.
00:05:18.000 It's like if you went to a restaurant and you knew that 20% of their food would literally fucking kill you, would you ever eat there?
00:05:26.000 No.
00:05:27.000 Well, that's like Twitter.
00:05:29.000 Yeah.
00:05:30.000 20% of the people there are fucking poisonous.
00:05:34.000 Poisonous, they're like a coral snake.
00:05:35.000 But it's so funny because, like, I've just you know been so when we met, I was just you know, like kind of a regular citizen teaching at Stanford, whatever.
00:05:43.000 Then I started a business, then I got more public.
00:05:46.000 I went to Fox, hosted a show there, now I'm a candidate.
00:05:49.000 And as that's happened, you get more prominent, and so you look at these comments.
00:05:55.000 I never know whether to look, but the thing that I really just makes me laugh now is like I'm always tempted to do it, and I never do it.
00:06:04.000 Like the really idiotic, just pure abuse.
00:06:08.000 Like, I don't know, like I do, I put something out there, and now there's a lot more of this.
00:06:13.000 I'm a candidate, it's like, go back to England, you fucking cunt, or you bald, whatever.
00:06:19.000 And like, I always, I always want to write, good point, or something.
00:06:25.000 Because it's just so tempting, and I never have, maybe I should.
00:06:29.000 Well, there's a lot of, because it just makes me laugh.
00:06:32.000 There's a lot of sad, angry people out there that are just lashing out.
00:06:35.000 And unfortunately, those are overly represented online.
00:06:38.000 Because those are the type of people that have the time to make comments.
00:06:42.000 But then you also have to take into consideration, whenever you're involved in anything political, as you obviously are, because you're running for governor of California, there's a lot of the people that are engaging with your content that are not real people.
00:06:54.000 They are even.
00:06:55.000 You mean actual bots?
00:06:56.000 Okay, that part I never have in my mind.
00:06:56.000 100%.
00:06:59.000 You don't?
00:07:00.000 No, I should.
00:07:02.000 It's a good point.
00:07:02.000 Keep going.
00:07:03.000 Oh, it's a tremendous amount.
00:07:06.000 It's not a small amount, it's a huge amount.
00:07:09.000 Does Elon.
00:07:10.000 There's nothing you do about it.
00:07:11.000 It was a point of contention when he was buying Twitter.
00:07:14.000 So, when he was buying Twitter, Twitter was alleging that there was only 5% of Twitter with bots.
00:07:20.000 But see if you can find that article again.
00:07:22.000 There's a former FBI, God, he did something with digital intelligence, and he did a forensic analysis of Twitter, and he said it's probably 80%.
00:07:34.000 80%.
00:07:35.000 80%.
00:07:36.000 80%.
00:07:37.000 So, it's a bunch of bots yelling at you and by bots.
00:07:41.000 Okay.
00:07:42.000 Some of them, I think now, and this is at the time, so this is 2022.
00:07:47.000 When did he buy Twitter?
00:07:48.000 2023, 2024, 2024?
00:07:52.000 I think older than.
00:07:53.000 Was it?
00:07:53.000 Was it 24?
00:07:54.000 I think it was like somewhere in 23, 24, yeah.
00:07:57.000 Yeah, okay.
00:07:58.000 So back then, AI was not as much of an issue, right?
00:08:03.000 Like AIs, you could automate anything now.
00:08:07.000 So the claim that 80% of Twitter originates from a 2022 assessment by cybersecurity expert Dan Woods.
00:08:13.000 While official company filings have historically claimed fake accounts represent under 5%, independent estimates and security specialists suggest real figures are higher, though an exact 80% total remains heavily debated.
00:08:27.000 It's very debated, but.
00:08:29.000 If you read the article, he goes over it.
00:08:33.000 It's very meticulous.
00:08:34.000 Like the way he's describing it, it's not like he's pulling it out of his ass.
00:08:39.000 He did it.
00:08:40.000 So, what they did, what Twitter did to come up with 5%, was they just grabbed a random 100 tweets.
00:08:47.000 But also, they're trying to sell it for fucking billions of dollars.
00:08:50.000 They were trying to sell it for.
00:08:52.000 What was it like, 40 billion?
00:08:54.000 Something crazy, wasn't it?
00:08:54.000 Yeah.
00:08:56.000 I don't remember the numbers.
00:08:57.000 Wasn't it 40 billion dollars?
00:08:59.000 Fucking insane amount of money for this, what is now just chaos.
00:09:03.000 You know, it's funny.
00:09:05.000 So there's that.
00:09:06.000 And so this guy's saying 80%.
00:09:09.000 So again, this is a few years ago.
00:09:11.000 So you're dealing with actual humans who are doing it.
00:09:13.000 So you have these state sponsored groups that are, there's these bot farms.
00:09:20.000 And what these bot farms are, I don't know if you've ever seen them, but people have like gone inside and filmed them, like whistleblowers.
00:09:29.000 And what they literally have is like, Rows and rows of Android phones that are all connected to like keyboards.
00:09:38.000 Yes.
00:09:39.000 And they'll type one thing and that one thing gets tweeted by hundreds and hundreds of phones.
00:09:47.000 And there's many of these places.
00:09:49.000 And this was back before you could get AI to automate things for you.
00:09:53.000 Now you could do a thing where you can essentially start a campaign online.
00:10:01.000 Like, say, Steve Hilton's a cunt.
00:10:03.000 Pass it on.
00:10:04.000 And literally, they will.
00:10:07.000 You could hire a company, and this company has bots that will go out there and promote that Steve Hilton is a cunt.
00:10:15.000 And they will put it everywhere.
00:10:17.000 They'll hire people.
00:10:19.000 They'll pay people.
00:10:19.000 This is another thing.
00:10:20.000 There's a bunch of really bad actors, really bad faith actors on Twitter that are paid to post things.
00:10:27.000 And these people have been called out many times by other people that are independent journalists that say, isn't it crazy that all these people use the same verbiage?
00:10:34.000 Yeah, they're getting paid at the same time.
00:10:35.000 Exactly.
00:10:36.000 They're getting paid.
00:10:37.000 They're getting paid quite a bit of money.
00:10:38.000 Israel pays people.
00:10:39.000 They've been pretty open about it, you know, and they were saying that we have to win the digital war against what they call the woke Reich, which is hilarious.
00:10:49.000 So there's that.
00:10:51.000 So you have to, like, when you're engaging, like, I know real people on Twitter.
00:10:57.000 I know real people that I read their posts, and I know there's real independent journalists, but there's a tremendous amount of just utter horseshit.
00:11:05.000 I don't have time.
00:11:06.000 I have no time for that.
00:11:07.000 No, I mean, I look at it.
00:11:10.000 So, because you know, you're running around, you're doing all these things for the campaign, whatever.
00:11:13.000 So, I don't have too much time.
00:11:15.000 It's the one I look at, but there's all the other, you know, there's Instagram and all the rest, and I don't even look at those.
00:11:20.000 But, well, next, you know, for a few hours, you know, if you add it up, probably half an hour in the morning, maybe half an hour in the middle of the day, half an hour at the end of the day, and you look at it then and you just find out what's going on.
00:11:32.000 I think it's pretty good for news, like things that are happening.
00:11:35.000 It's the best in the world for news.
00:11:37.000 So, that's why I check in with you.
00:11:39.000 You kind of see what's happening.
00:11:39.000 Yeah.
00:11:40.000 I go to the front.
00:11:40.000 I do that.
00:11:41.000 Page, like what's going on?
00:11:43.000 What are the news stories?
00:11:45.000 But as soon as it gets to people's opinions on things, they're like, blah, blah, blah, not listening.
00:11:50.000 I just think it's fun.
00:11:51.000 Honestly, the abuse stuff, it just makes me laugh.
00:11:53.000 I think it's so kind of.
00:11:54.000 That's good.
00:11:55.000 Well, you've always been really good digitally.
00:11:58.000 Like, for people that don't know, like I said, Steve and I have known each other for a long time.
00:12:03.000 I mean, we're good friends.
00:12:05.000 Like, we've taken our families to Disneyland.
00:12:07.000 Yeah, like, we've slept over each other's homes.
00:12:10.000 This is, again, way before you were running for governor.
00:12:12.000 I know you, and you know me, and you know my family.
00:12:15.000 We know each other.
00:12:16.000 And you've always had no phone.
00:12:19.000 You were always impossible to reach.
00:12:20.000 I used to have to get a hold of your wife to get a hold of you.
00:12:22.000 Exactly.
00:12:23.000 It was hilarious.
00:12:23.000 For a while, I don't even know if you've had a fucking email for a while.
00:12:26.000 I didn't have email.
00:12:27.000 I always had email.
00:12:28.000 Yeah.
00:12:29.000 But you never had anything on you to check that email.
00:12:33.000 Exactly.
00:12:34.000 I remember one time in San Diego.
00:12:37.000 I always said, it's fine.
00:12:38.000 Nothing ever goes wrong.
00:12:39.000 Are you going to not.
00:12:40.000 What time it went wrong?
00:12:41.000 Your wife was so mad at you because she couldn't get a hold of you.
00:12:43.000 You fucking vanished.
00:12:45.000 But this was the thing you were well aware that it is a toxic element in your life and it's distracting.
00:12:53.000 It keeps you from being present, it keeps you from being in the moment.
00:12:56.000 And it's very hard to have discipline and just put it down.
00:12:59.000 And I'm really good at it.
00:13:01.000 Then I'm not.
00:13:02.000 And then some days I'm not.
00:13:04.000 I just find myself on the toilet for 20 minutes watching murder videos.
00:13:07.000 Because my Instagram, it's actually really good right now.
00:13:13.000 Well, actual, what do you mean like true crime stuff?
00:13:17.000 Oh, horrible things.
00:13:18.000 So one of my best friends, Tom Segura, he and I have had this tradition over the last few years of sending each other the worst fucking shit that we find online to each other just to freak each other out first thing in the morning.
00:13:33.000 Like, first thing in the morning, I wake up and Tom sent me.
00:13:35.000 Like the other day, I sent him these two guys were trying to rob an ATM machine, and uh, the guy's pulling on it, and they wrapped a chain around it.
00:13:44.000 They had a car, it sounds like a movie that was pulling, yeah, yeah.
00:13:48.000 So the car was pulling the ATM machine out, and the guy got trapped under it and dragged with sparks and blood.
00:13:58.000 I mean, it's horrific.
00:14:01.000 And I mean, I've seen so many people get executed, uh, hundreds.
00:14:05.000 Instagram is terrible at removing that stuff.
00:14:08.000 I don't know if.
00:14:09.000 I spend far less time on X because X is so much opinions.
00:14:14.000 It's so much of it is just text.
00:14:16.000 Instagram, for me, a lot of it is very interesting.
00:14:19.000 Like I find interesting historical facts, interesting scientific discoveries, cool stuff.
00:14:24.000 There's a lot of interesting stuff.
00:14:25.000 It seems to be just generally when I'm around, you know, I'm on planes a lot and like all the time.
00:14:31.000 And you see people.
00:14:32.000 So just watching people.
00:14:34.000 Instagram seems to be the thing.
00:14:35.000 You know, I'm not watching what they're looking at.
00:14:37.000 You can see the logo and you can see that seems to be what people are most consuming.
00:14:41.000 Yes.
00:14:41.000 On the Instagram.
00:14:42.000 I think it's probably the biggest one.
00:14:44.000 Maybe TikTok's probably the biggest.
00:14:46.000 Yeah, and TikTok.
00:14:47.000 I don't know what's the biggest, but they're both pretty big, and it's just mind blowing.
00:14:52.000 TikTok's probably younger.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, I think.
00:14:55.000 But there's a lot of older people on TikTok, too, now.
00:14:57.000 It's just very addictive.
00:15:00.000 TikTok, when you open it up, it immediately starts playing you something.
00:15:04.000 That's different.
00:15:04.000 Yeah.
00:15:05.000 You know, like Instagram, it opens the page, and you go, so what's going on?
00:15:09.000 And you have to put in a little effort.
00:15:11.000 TikTok's like, gotcha!
00:15:14.000 Like, immediately, as soon as you open up the app, it's like, gotcha, here's another one, here's another one, here's another one.
00:15:18.000 Next thing you know, an hour's gone by and you've wasted it.
00:15:20.000 I remember when I first read about it, like, years ago.
00:15:24.000 TikTok, I think maybe even wasn't called TikTok.
00:15:26.000 His bike dance were doing it, and it was music video.
00:15:30.000 There's something to do with music.
00:15:31.000 And that's how it started.
00:15:32.000 It started with music.
00:15:33.000 You could make your own video to music or something to do with music was the focus.
00:15:37.000 Well, the original TikTok was a bunch of people dancing.
00:15:40.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:15:41.000 It was active dancing.
00:15:42.000 Exactly.
00:15:42.000 Yeah, they were dancing and lip syncing.
00:15:44.000 And I remember reading, and they were talking about how viral it's got, and then this thing is going to take over.
00:15:49.000 So I was like, oh, yeah, that can't be, that's not going to happen.
00:15:52.000 And then now look where we are.
00:15:53.000 Amazing.
00:15:54.000 Well, what's really interesting is China, where TikTok originated, they have a completely different TikTok.
00:16:01.000 Exactly.
00:16:02.000 Their TikTok is curated to like martial arts demonstrations, scientific discoveries.
00:16:10.000 It's all athletic achievements.
00:16:11.000 Music, kids doing music, violin, all that stuff.
00:16:13.000 Exactly.
00:16:14.000 It's all like enriching.
00:16:15.000 It shows you can do that.
00:16:17.000 Yeah, and kids aren't even allowed on it after 10 p.m.
00:16:20.000 So, like, you have to put in your age when you do it at 10 p.m., it bricks you.
00:16:24.000 Go to work, bitch.
00:16:25.000 Go to sleep.
00:16:26.000 Get up in the morning.
00:16:27.000 And now.
00:16:28.000 TikTok does that.
00:16:29.000 I can't remember.
00:16:30.000 I've read that.
00:16:30.000 The Chinese version of TikTok.
00:16:32.000 So the Chinese version of TikTok.
00:16:34.000 And the government makes them do that.
00:16:35.000 Yeah, they're smart.
00:16:36.000 Like, it's not good to censor people, but if you want to have a society that's not captured by horseshit, that's the way to do it.
00:16:43.000 So I remember back.
00:16:44.000 So I'm Hungarian.
00:16:45.000 My parents are Hungarian.
00:16:46.000 When I was a kid, I was born in England, but we'd go back to Hungary.
00:16:50.000 And this thing I always remember being really pissed off about when I was a kid.
00:16:55.000 Not that the TV was before anything, it was just TV.
00:16:58.000 So, all you had was television.
00:17:00.000 But on Mondays in Hungary, there was no television because they wanted people to do other stuff.
00:17:07.000 Just on Monday?
00:17:08.000 Yeah, maybe I'm getting this wrong.
00:17:10.000 And it was like, go out, talk to each other, do stuff, sports, whatever.
00:17:16.000 And it was a communist regime, so they can do whatever they want.
00:17:19.000 Right.
00:17:20.000 But you think, you know, they were thinking.
00:17:23.000 I prefer freedom.
00:17:25.000 Well, that's what I think about all of this is so hard.
00:17:28.000 Like, even when you look at.
00:17:30.000 Like just today, there's this massive trial, this Meta trial going on.
00:17:35.000 What's going on?
00:17:36.000 Meta, it's a lawsuit.
00:17:37.000 Today's the first day of the trial.
00:17:39.000 What is the trial about?
00:17:40.000 They're suing Meta for $1.4 trillion.
00:17:43.000 Trillion.
00:17:43.000 Trillion.
00:17:44.000 Trillion with a T. Whoa.
00:17:45.000 I mean, they're not going to get that, but that's the claim.
00:17:48.000 It was just today.
00:17:50.000 Claims that addicted children to social media.
00:17:52.000 Huh.
00:17:53.000 And they're doing this through lawsuits.
00:17:57.000 And I'm just so torn over this because I've got a very strong point of view about all of this and kids.
00:18:01.000 Yes.
00:18:02.000 But there's something about this that doesn't feel right in terms of just going after these big platforms because, in the end, I think it's the phones.
00:18:12.000 It's the.
00:18:13.000 There'll be something else if it's not meta.
00:18:15.000 It'll be another thing.
00:18:16.000 Yes.
00:18:17.000 I mean, I wrote about this in 2015.
00:18:20.000 So soon after we did that show, I was probably working on it at the time.
00:18:23.000 I had a book called.
00:18:24.000 I published a book called More Human Designing a World Where People Come First.
00:18:28.000 And the kind of main thing in the book was everything's too big and bureaucratic and centralized, and we've got to get.
00:18:35.000 Back to the human scale, so it's mainly about other kinds of policy areas.
00:18:39.000 But I did write about this thing of kids and tech, and I said at the time, we you know, kids under 16, I said then, shouldn't have smartphones.
00:18:47.000 You can give them other phones to stay in touch, but smartphones, bad idea, it's the screams.
00:18:52.000 And so I see all this going on, and I think, yeah, have a go at Meta or whatever WhatsApp or YouTube.
00:18:58.000 I think they're coming for as well.
00:19:00.000 They're coming for YouTube, that's definitely, yeah, they are.
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00:20:13.000 Well, that's like coming for television, though.
00:20:16.000 I know.
00:20:17.000 It's weird.
00:20:17.000 User created television.
00:20:19.000 I think it's the screens, though.
00:20:21.000 Right, but the screen's the problem, right?
00:20:23.000 It's not the content creators.
00:20:24.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:20:25.000 And then if they are coming after YouTube, then they're going to come after me, right?
00:20:28.000 Because I'm making people addicted to listening to people talk.
00:20:31.000 Exactly.
00:20:32.000 How are you going to say that that's bad?
00:20:34.000 The four states seek substantial financial penalties.
00:20:37.000 Reports differ on the precise figure, with recent reportings describing the state's position as roughly $200 billion.
00:20:45.000 While Meta has cited a possible exposure as high as $1.4 trillion, the ultimate penalty if Meta loses would be determined by the court.
00:20:54.000 They also want court ordered changes to Facebook and Instagram, potentially including parental verification for teen accounts, changes to recommendation algorithms characterized as dopamine manipulating, removing or limiting like counts, infinite scroll, autoplay, appearance altering filters, multiple accounts, and disappearing content such as stories.
00:21:17.000 People love that.
00:21:17.000 What?
00:21:18.000 I know.
00:21:19.000 So they're trying to really micromanage.
00:21:21.000 Yeah, but disappearing content such as stories is kind of interesting sometimes.
00:21:25.000 Like my friend Adam Greentree.
00:21:27.000 Yeah.
00:21:28.000 He's a bow hunter and he goes hunting and his Instagram stories depict each day of these hunts.
00:21:37.000 And it's really fascinating because he takes these crazy adventures where he goes deep into the Colorado Rockies by himself for like 28 days and he's like camping out in the snow and it's cool.
00:21:47.000 It's cool to watch.
00:21:49.000 So it's not all negative.
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00:22:09.000 See, the problem is, as soon as a government gets involved in mandating product redesigns, we're fucked.
00:22:16.000 I agree.
00:22:16.000 Because they're not going to make it good for us.
00:22:19.000 I totally agree.
00:22:19.000 There's not a chance in hell.
00:22:21.000 Yeah.
00:22:22.000 It's just.
00:22:23.000 Manipulating.
00:22:25.000 They're getting involved and they'll probably get them to give them some money.
00:22:29.000 And then when you start getting it, and you could just imagine these bureaucrats sitting around, micromel.
00:22:33.000 I mean, they've got too much of that already.
00:22:35.000 100%.
00:22:36.000 Yeah, one of the things that we want to do.
00:22:38.000 So I get it's a problem, but this isn't the way to go.
00:22:40.000 No, no.
00:22:42.000 You know, there's a relaunch of MySpace that is.
00:22:45.000 Really?
00:22:46.000 Yes.
00:22:46.000 And so MySpace is apparently attempting to relaunch and be algorithm free.
00:22:52.000 And this is their idea.
00:22:54.000 They're thinking the algorithms are designed to keep you engaged and get you dependent and get you hooked.
00:23:00.000 And they're doing it by making you outraged for the most part, right?
00:23:03.000 And what they want to say is, look, why don't you just find what you want to find and we'll have it on here?
00:23:08.000 Okay.
00:23:08.000 Which is probably a lot better.
00:23:10.000 Yeah.
00:23:11.000 Because, you know, my feed would be all things only that I'm interested in, not things that piss me off.
00:23:16.000 Well, that was the big change they made to the news feed versus what you were doing.
00:23:22.000 And incredibly potent.
00:23:26.000 And its impact on children in particular, and me, not a child.
00:23:29.000 I'm a little kid.
00:23:30.000 I fucking get hooked.
00:23:32.000 We all get hooked.
00:23:33.000 You get hooked on nonsense and just paying attention to stupid things.
00:23:37.000 And it just eats time, and that's what is, that's the commodity.
00:23:42.000 The commodity is your attention.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:23:44.000 But you've got, I hear actually all the time, it's not discussed like a political issue, like we talk about gas prices, whatever.
00:23:51.000 But then I've done a lot of events last, whatever, year and a half, like really a lot.
00:23:57.000 Thousands and thousands of people sometimes, big events, small round tables.
00:24:01.000 You hear a lot of people.
00:24:02.000 And the first set of things they talk to you about are what you might, because they think you're a candidate.
00:24:08.000 This is politics.
00:24:10.000 Let's talk about taxes and gas prices and the kinds of things that you think.
00:24:14.000 They, you know, are sort of assumed to be part of the political conversation.
00:24:18.000 But then when you raise something like that, like the kids and the screens, that totally changes the conversation.
00:24:25.000 And suddenly they're like intense and kind of really kind of angry in a totally different way.
00:24:33.000 And what were?
00:24:34.000 It's like, what are we supposed to do?
00:24:37.000 It's like, for parents, it's like, it's the screens and the social media and then the video games and now it's AI and they're talking to AI and then the AI is doing the homework.
00:24:47.000 Like, what are we supposed to do?
00:24:49.000 I'm glad you brought up video games because video games are far more addictive than social media.
00:24:55.000 Yes.
00:24:56.000 Video games are insanely addictive, and no one's trying to get rid of that.
00:24:59.000 Exactly.
00:25:00.000 It's because these things can change the way people think, they can change public opinion, and they can move people in certain directions.
00:25:08.000 I attribute it to the rise of the democratic socialists.
00:25:12.000 I attribute it to the rise.
00:25:13.000 I mean, it's a lot of this manipulation, these ideas, like people are really getting, oh, maybe being socialist is cool.
00:25:20.000 This is all coming out of social media, 100%.
00:25:23.000 It's not natural that people are sitting around reading Marx and going, What a great idea.
00:25:30.000 Let's implement this.
00:25:31.000 They're not doing that.
00:25:33.000 Very few of these quote unquote Marxists that you find on social media are even aware of the consequences, the historical consequences of these strategies and what it ultimately leads to, which is like checkers.
00:25:47.000 It's like real simple.
00:25:48.000 You're going to have a military that controls everything you do.
00:25:51.000 As soon as you give up everything to the state, Well, the state has the guns and you have nothing.
00:25:56.000 And then they tell you what to do.
00:25:56.000 Exactly.
00:25:57.000 They tell you what to do.
00:25:58.000 It sucks.
00:25:59.000 It doesn't mean that that's the way to do it because capitalism is brutal.
00:26:03.000 Yeah, capitalism needs some fucking guardrails.
00:26:06.000 Everything needs to be.
00:26:06.000 That's what it is.
00:26:06.000 For sure.
00:26:08.000 But you've got, like, no, I totally agree.
00:26:10.000 Like, I always joke about it, but it's kind of true.
00:26:13.000 Is like, Mamdani with the state run grocery stores.
00:26:15.000 Like, we had that when I was a kid.
00:26:17.000 I literally went to them in Hungary.
00:26:19.000 It was a communist state.
00:26:21.000 There was only state run grocery stores.
00:26:23.000 There's one, like, at the end of the block where my grandma lived.
00:26:23.000 I saw them.
00:26:27.000 And I would go there in the morning to get the whatever it was.
00:26:30.000 And it's just terrible.
00:26:31.000 Like, it's really.
00:26:32.000 I'm very torn on social safety nets.
00:26:36.000 I think we should have them because I think a person who's down on their luck where things go wrong, like a woman who has children and her husband dies and she doesn't have an income, and now, oh my God, I have to feed these children.
00:26:49.000 Yeah, we should have social safety nets.
00:26:51.000 I also think social safety nets encourage people to rely on them and have zero ambition.
00:26:56.000 I think both those things are true.
00:26:58.000 Well, that's why I'm so.
00:27:00.000 I've always been against, I can see the argument for, but I've always been against this universal basic income type thing.
00:27:08.000 There's an argument for it where it's like quite a low level.
00:27:12.000 And the original guy that I think used to argue for that was on the right Milton Friedman.
00:27:16.000 Yes.
00:27:16.000 And Charles Murray, I think, also argued for it, coming from the right.
00:27:20.000 But their version of it was to replace everything else.
00:27:24.000 So you wouldn't have any other benefits, you wouldn't have any other government services.
00:27:28.000 Right, no Medicaid, no nothing.
00:27:30.000 Just an amount of money.
00:27:32.000 Based from very simple, less bureaucratic, and that's it.
00:27:35.000 But this is not what's being argued.
00:27:37.000 No, I think that would actually probably be financially more efficient because you would radically reduce the amount of government.
00:27:43.000 Exactly.
00:27:44.000 And the bureaucracy.
00:27:45.000 Radically reduce the amount of people that have control over other people.
00:27:45.000 Yes.
00:27:48.000 Exactly.
00:27:49.000 You would say, listen, we're going to cut out the middleman and just give the money to people.
00:27:53.000 Yes.
00:27:54.000 That's not a bad idea.
00:27:56.000 So I got, and it was very funny.
00:27:58.000 Like you say these things before you ever imagine being a candidate, and they come back and it gets sort of twisted.
00:28:05.000 Part of the problem with welfare is, and this is going to sound completely.
00:28:09.000 Like, I'm contradicting myself, but it's not enough money.
00:28:12.000 You barely live.
00:28:13.000 Well, this is what I was saying.
00:28:14.000 It's exactly what I was saying.
00:28:15.000 So, I was in that book.
00:28:17.000 I think in that book, the 2015 book, More Human, I had this idea based on what you're talking about, which is actually for a lot of people, things like the minimum wage, for example, is just you can't live on it, especially like in California now.
00:28:32.000 Right.
00:28:32.000 But in a lot of places, it's so low, the cost is so high, you can't live on it.
00:28:36.000 And there's a lot of people working really hard, like not lazy.
00:28:41.000 On the couch playing video, seriously hardworking people, often two jobs who can't live on what they make.
00:28:46.000 It's like really wrong, I think.
00:28:48.000 If you work so hard, you should be able to live on it.
00:28:50.000 So I had this idea, which was the business friendly living wage.
00:28:54.000 And the idea was you increase the minimum wage to a living wage, which is calculated as.
00:29:02.000 What do you think that would be?
00:29:03.000 Well, in Cal, it's by area, it's different everywhere.
00:29:08.000 You know, in California, in a lot of places, it'd be incredibly high.
00:29:11.000 You know, 30, 40, you know, a lot of really high levels.
00:29:14.000 $30 or $40 an hour.
00:29:15.000 Well, because you've got now in certain counties in California, more than I think it goes up the whole time, the official government level for low income is $100,000 a year.
00:29:25.000 Low income.
00:29:26.000 It's crazy because costs.
00:29:26.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:29:28.000 When I was a kid, if you made $100,000, you were killing it.
00:29:31.000 I know.
00:29:32.000 My dad makes $100,000.
00:29:33.000 Like, whoa.
00:29:34.000 Okay, so when I, in my campaign, I had this, one of my first things was no state income tax under $100,000.
00:29:41.000 I go with the working class tax.
00:29:43.000 A lot of people, Nationally, we said that's so high.
00:29:47.000 Why are you rewarding rich people?
00:29:50.000 Actually, the feedback we got in the primary was that's too low.
00:29:53.000 And there's a ton of people in California making, I don't know, 120, that sort of thing, who can barely live because everything's so expensive.
00:30:00.000 If you're in LA or somewhere expensive.
00:30:01.000 So we've raised it to 150 tax free.
00:30:04.000 But going back to the living wage thing, that's obviously really tough for a business to pay that kind of level.
00:30:11.000 I used to run a restaurant.
00:30:13.000 You know, you'd be killed by that kind of high thing.
00:30:15.000 But at the same time as You've got businesses paying people for full time work that they can't live on.
00:30:22.000 The businesses are also paying taxes, payroll tax, all this stuff.
00:30:26.000 They're paying to the government.
00:30:28.000 And then the government is taking it and handing it back to the workers in benefits and welfare.
00:30:36.000 So my thing was why don't you just cut out the middleman and have the businesses pay the workers, not the government?
00:30:42.000 And then the net effect for businesses is about the same.
00:30:45.000 Or that would be the goal.
00:30:47.000 So they're paying their workers more.
00:30:49.000 Isn't it the same amount?
00:30:51.000 Like, are they literally?
00:30:52.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:30:53.000 Because, like, what is minimum wage in California right now?
00:30:56.000 Well, it's just gone up.
00:30:57.000 It depends where you're looking.
00:30:59.000 So $15?
00:31:01.000 No, $16 and a bit.
00:31:02.000 And then for fast food, it's $20.
00:31:04.000 And they wanted it for.
00:31:06.000 That was a recent thing, right?
00:31:08.000 And a lot of people pushed back against that.
00:31:10.000 And they wound up cutting a lot of jobs.
00:31:12.000 Yeah, that went through.
00:31:13.000 So it was $20 for fast food work.
00:31:14.000 And then it immediately cut a bunch of jobs.
00:31:16.000 Exactly.
00:31:17.000 And put in automation.
00:31:19.000 I feel like there's got to be some jobs that are entry level jobs for kids.
00:31:23.000 Yes.
00:31:24.000 And that's really important.
00:31:25.000 You're not supposed to make a living off of that.
00:31:25.000 They used to be.
00:31:28.000 You're supposed to be a kid that's learning how to work.
00:31:31.000 You show up on time, you know, you get your paycheck, you realize the taxes get cut out of it.
00:31:36.000 You're like, what?
00:31:37.000 Exactly.
00:31:37.000 All that stuff.
00:31:38.000 Like, it's good for kids to have, but once you get past entry level jobs, then, okay, like if someone's a landscaper or someone's like doing this, this is a job.
00:31:48.000 You work 40 hours a week.
00:31:51.000 Paying someone $15 an hour to work 40 hours a week is kind of brutal.
00:31:55.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:31:56.000 It's horrible.
00:31:56.000 Exactly.
00:31:57.000 You barely can get by.
00:32:00.000 But because we've built all of this bureaucracy, certainly in California, all I really know is California, and just the level of the Government in all its forms is so big, you're paying all these taxes, and the taxes are coming out in all these hidden ways gas taxes, housing taxes that they don't call a housing tax, but it's there.
00:32:21.000 Everywhere you look, they've got these things that they're charging you, which makes everything more expensive.
00:32:28.000 And what do you get for it?
00:32:30.000 This bloated bureaucratic government that's not actually helping it.
00:32:33.000 It's actually making it harder to run a business, harder to build anything.
00:32:37.000 And so I think that's.
00:32:40.000 And this is the, I used to call it this doom loop, that the Democrats who are in charge, even they get it, right?
00:32:45.000 They get that people are really struggling.
00:32:48.000 People can't afford stuff.
00:32:50.000 So what's their response?
00:32:51.000 Oh, we've got to, you know, give them more welfare benefit.
00:32:55.000 We've got to put taxes up in order to get more money to redistribute.
00:33:00.000 But that just makes everything more expensive.
00:33:02.000 They never think about, well, why don't we just cut the costs?
00:33:05.000 Why don't we just reduce the amount that we're taking so that people can have more?
00:33:10.000 Yeah, but then they would have to cut out their slush fund because that's really what it is.
00:33:14.000 It's a big ass slush fund.
00:33:16.000 One of the things that we pointed out was that the number of people moving to California and even living in California shrank, but government doubled.
00:33:27.000 Yes.
00:33:28.000 There are so many insane facts like that.
00:33:32.000 Well, they say, oh, we've created so many jobs.
00:33:32.000 Right.
00:33:34.000 Like, really?
00:33:36.000 Have you?
00:33:37.000 Have you really created an actual job?
00:33:40.000 Or have you figured out another way to increase the government?
00:33:44.000 And make more taxes work for whatever the fuck NGO you have or nonprofit you have, or like someone pointed out that there's this guy, this guy, these really funny reels on Instagram and how much things cost versus like what you could get for.
00:34:02.000 And you know, he was talking about like some new thing they're doing for the convention center.
00:34:08.000 It's like a $5 billion renovation.
00:34:11.000 And he was like listing all the different things, and one of them that you could give like every single person on Skid Row some fucking preposterous amount of money.
00:34:19.000 And it's, you just realize, like, oh, they don't want to fix any of this.
00:34:24.000 Like, the people that are working for the homeless, he was talking about, the average salary was like $800,000.
00:34:30.000 There was just one last week.
00:34:32.000 This woman runs a homeless nonprofit, $1.6 million a year salary.
00:34:37.000 Homeless nonprofit.
00:34:38.000 Nonprofit.
00:34:39.000 And she's killing it.
00:34:39.000 Exactly.
00:34:41.000 Exactly.
00:34:41.000 There's another one.
00:34:42.000 She's a millionaire.
00:34:43.000 There's another one yesterday.
00:34:44.000 He's like, I don't know, some business like, again, it's a nonprofit, $2.6 million a year.
00:34:49.000 And here's the most important thing.
00:34:51.000 The homelessness only got worse.
00:34:53.000 Like in the private sector, imagine if you were a CEO of a company that was just losing insane amounts of money and never completing its tasks, never doing anything that it set out to do.
00:35:04.000 This is the main thing.
00:35:05.000 I think it's like the more I look at it, the more insane it is.
00:35:10.000 And everyone just looks at it and no one's ever pointed this stuff out.
00:35:14.000 Like they all just, the government just makes everything so expensive in California.
00:35:19.000 Everyone says, oh, it's so expensive.
00:35:21.000 What are we going to do?
00:35:22.000 We'd better give them more welfare benefits because we'd better have a billionaire wealth tax.
00:35:28.000 Or steal money from the richest people without addressing fraud and waste at all.
00:35:28.000 Billionaire wealth tax.
00:35:35.000 But by the way, the richest people already pay about half the income tax, the top 1%.
00:35:40.000 Yes.
00:35:41.000 So there's a small number of people in California alone that are responsible for an extraordinary amount of the tax base.
00:35:48.000 Yeah.
00:35:49.000 Just a very small number of people.
00:35:50.000 And you're scaring them away.
00:35:53.000 But they just don't have that mentality of cutting costs.
00:35:58.000 Like every normal business.
00:35:58.000 Because normal businesses get paid no matter what.
00:36:02.000 Exactly.
00:36:02.000 This is what I said during COVID.
00:36:04.000 I said, I think the mayor.
00:36:06.000 Should get paid dependent upon the GDP of the city.
00:36:09.000 Yeah.
00:36:10.000 So, like, if the city, like, if you lose 70% of the restaurants, which, like, Los Angeles did during.
00:36:16.000 Yes.
00:36:17.000 Garcetti should have lost 70% of his paycheck.
00:36:20.000 You should have.
00:36:21.000 If you lose, like, 70% of businesses, you should lose 70% of your income.
00:36:26.000 And I guarantee you they would be more friendly to business if that happened.
00:36:29.000 But this.
00:36:30.000 But exactly.
00:36:31.000 And they don't care.
00:36:32.000 And this is what happens, I think, when you've got this.
00:36:36.000 One party rule thing that's been going on for 16 years now.
00:36:39.000 They've run everything.
00:36:41.000 They don't care because they think they'll be in power forever and it just doesn't matter.
00:36:46.000 And it seems like they will.
00:36:48.000 Look what they did to Spencer Pratt.
00:36:49.000 I know.
00:36:50.000 And what they did to Spencer Pratt was so transparent that even Democrats admit there's something weird about the fact that Nithya Raman all of a sudden got way more votes than Karen Bass in the mail-ins.
00:36:50.000 It's crazy.
00:37:04.000 And people voted for an increase in taxes.
00:37:09.000 It's just.
00:37:09.000 I know.
00:37:10.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:37:11.000 Nobody votes for an increase in taxes.
00:37:13.000 And actually, in recent years in California, anything like that has been voted down.
00:37:18.000 Right.
00:37:18.000 And just, in the last few years.
00:37:20.000 It was only the mail in ballots that turned it.
00:37:23.000 Well, this is the.
00:37:25.000 I was saying this.
00:37:26.000 It's fucking dirty.
00:37:27.000 People, well, people bring it up the whole time.
00:37:30.000 And I say, yeah, whatever.
00:37:32.000 This is the.
00:37:33.000 They've made it legal, right?
00:37:35.000 This is not illegal.
00:37:37.000 And the scam is so bad.
00:37:39.000 We've looked into a few of these.
00:37:43.000 We were just, you know, through the year, we've been looking, we've been following some of this money.
00:37:48.000 It's just everywhere you look.
00:37:49.000 So, cannabis, right?
00:37:50.000 They legalize cannabis, Prop 64 in California.
00:37:54.000 And there's a tax.
00:37:56.000 And the tax is part of selling it to the public we're going to have the tax and it's going to pay for substance abuse prevention.
00:38:04.000 Isn't that nice?
00:38:05.000 Yeah.
00:38:06.000 So, we looked into it.
00:38:07.000 $350 million of that goes to this nonprofit.
00:38:11.000 With some nice sounding name about health.
00:38:14.000 And then you actually track the money.
00:38:16.000 They give out these little grants, million each, million here, 750,000 there, to 500 or so other nonprofits.
00:38:23.000 And then you look at what they do voter registration, ballot harvesting, all of this shit.
00:38:29.000 I mean, this is what they do stealing money.
00:38:31.000 And we're paying for it.
00:38:33.000 And there are so many examples.
00:38:35.000 We've just found a few of them.
00:38:37.000 I mean, remember, they've doubled the budget of California, more than doubled in the last 10 years.
00:38:41.000 These are the numbers.
00:38:42.000 This year, the budget is just over $350 billion.
00:38:45.000 The total budget.
00:38:47.000 Ten years ago, it was 170.
00:38:50.000 And everything's worse.
00:38:52.000 Crazy.
00:38:53.000 It's so bad.
00:38:54.000 My other favourite example is that, and there's so many, I just, every day you learn about these crazy things.
00:39:00.000 Prisons, right, they've been shutting the prisons, which I totally disagree with, because whatever, that's a different story.
00:39:06.000 But in the time they basically cut the prison population, it's not quite half, but nearly.
00:39:13.000 The budget has doubled.
00:39:16.000 I mean, it's just.
00:39:20.000 Well, I mean, it's so transparent.
00:39:23.000 Like, look what they did in Los Angeles with the fire relief money.
00:39:26.000 Yes.
00:39:26.000 Yeah, fire aid.
00:39:27.000 That was disgusting.
00:39:29.000 So disgusting.
00:39:30.000 You had people, good hearted people, wanting to help their own money that's supposed to be charity.
00:39:36.000 And it's going into this political slush.
00:39:36.000 Yes.
00:39:38.000 It went all of it into nonprofits.
00:39:40.000 Yeah.
00:39:41.000 And not just one nonprofit, like 200 different nonprofits.
00:39:44.000 Exactly.
00:39:44.000 Spencer Pratt laid it all out, like how they did it and what they do.
00:39:47.000 And no money went to anybody who lost their home.
00:39:51.000 None.
00:39:52.000 Which should be illegal.
00:39:54.000 That's not fair.
00:39:55.000 But they've legalized all of this.
00:39:56.000 That's the point.
00:39:57.000 And so I always say, yeah, we've got this system.
00:40:01.000 But there's only one answer in advance of being able to get in power and do something about it is we just got to get every vote.
00:40:08.000 We've got to get every vote.
00:40:09.000 And I know people look at this race and say, well, you're never going to win.
00:40:12.000 It's hopeless.
00:40:13.000 I don't think that's true.
00:40:14.000 I think that actually people are really pissed off.
00:40:17.000 If you give them a sense that we can really, this is not a hopeless cause.
00:40:21.000 And I think we're showing that.
00:40:22.000 We've just got to, I mean, I've got this guy running against me who's just a complete joke.
00:40:27.000 I mean, he's.
00:40:28.000 Who is it?
00:40:29.000 He's called Javier Becerra.
00:40:31.000 He was Biden's health secretary.
00:40:34.000 He was, I mean, I want to say one thing before I say the most important thing about him.
00:40:40.000 But since we've just been having a go at him telling the truth about what he did as Biden's health secretary, his score's been coming down with not that much effort from us.
00:40:51.000 And we don't have money.
00:40:52.000 We're a scrappy startup, right?
00:40:53.000 They've got this big machine, the government unions, they just roll on.
00:40:58.000 He's like the first poll that came out in the race was just after the primary.
00:41:05.000 It looks.
00:41:06.000 It's over.
00:41:06.000 What's the point?
00:41:07.000 You know, 61, 36.
00:41:09.000 He had 61, I had 36.
00:41:11.000 The next one is like 55.
00:41:14.000 This is just the other week.
00:41:15.000 55.
00:41:16.000 I think I had 37.
00:41:17.000 There's one we just heard about where the gap's under 10%.
00:41:20.000 So no one wants this to go on in California.
00:41:23.000 There's a majority who want to get rid of this.
00:41:27.000 But it's just been this sense that it's impossible and we just have to put up with it or leave.
00:41:33.000 And I think we got it.
00:41:34.000 If we change that, I think people are going to vote this regime out.
00:41:41.000 It's so bad.
00:41:42.000 Well, we've seen the map, the electoral map that they put out from 2020 versus 2024.
00:41:42.000 Anyway, the thing.
00:41:50.000 And the difference being, you look at all the counties that went red.
00:41:54.000 That used to be blue, where people are freaked out.
00:41:54.000 Yeah.
00:41:57.000 The problem is these high population urban areas where people live in these liberal bubbles, which is Los Angeles is the craziest version of that.
00:42:07.000 And Los Angeles County is.
00:42:09.000 Is 23% of the vote in all of California?
00:42:11.000 Let's put this into perplexity.
00:42:13.000 Ask perplexity how many people in Los Angeles are on SSRIs?
00:42:21.000 Okay.
00:42:22.000 I didn't think that's where you were going.
00:42:24.000 I would like to know.
00:42:25.000 Well, I think there's a lot of people that are medicated, and it's part of what helps them agree to this nonsense is that they're in this zombie catatonic state from antidepressants and antipsychotics and anti this and anti that.
00:42:25.000 Okay.
00:42:41.000 And anxiety medication, and they're fucking cloudy.
00:42:45.000 They don't see things, and they're surrounded by this echo chamber of people that only agree with them.
00:42:51.000 No reliable public count of current SSRI users, specifically in Los Angeles, but a reasonable, rough estimate for Los Angeles County is on the order of 500,000 to 700,000 adults, not a precise head count.
00:43:05.000 Now, how many people are in Los Angeles?
00:43:07.000 There's 10 million in the county.
00:43:09.000 Okay, I think that's way low.
00:43:12.000 I think that's way low.
00:43:13.000 I bet it's 10 times that.
00:43:17.000 I bet it's everyone.
00:43:19.000 I think, no, all bullshit aside, I bet there's a few million.
00:43:23.000 Los Angeles County has roughly 7.8 to 8 million adults.
00:43:26.000 If about 11 to 17 percent take antidepressants, roughly 60 to 70 percent of antidepressant users take an SSRI.
00:43:34.000 The implied range is 530 to 950, so maybe a million.
00:43:39.000 I think it's probably a few million.
00:43:41.000 I know a lot of people that are on them, man.
00:43:44.000 I think it's like more represented in Los Angeles.
00:43:46.000 And there's also this idea that you need a medication because you have an imbalance.
00:43:51.000 You need medication.
00:43:52.000 It's over medication.
00:43:53.000 It's really bad.
00:43:55.000 Well, also, the imbalance thing has been disproven.
00:43:58.000 Yeah.
00:43:58.000 It's not real, it's not what it is.
00:44:00.000 And then there's also a reality of your physical being, okay?
00:44:04.000 If you live a sedentary lifestyle, you eat terrible food, your physical body is going to feel like shit, and you're not going to be happy.
00:44:12.000 That's just how it works as a human being.
00:44:14.000 Totally right.
00:44:15.000 That's it.
00:44:15.000 It's like if you're feeling down or pissed off, literally do some exercise.
00:44:20.000 My friend Asan Ahmad, you'll see him tonight at the Mothership, hilarious comedian, he has a great bit about the people that are in these commercials that are playing basketball.
00:44:29.000 They take the medication, now they're playing basketball and drinking water and having fun.
00:44:32.000 He goes, Yeah, that's the actual solution to depression.
00:44:36.000 It's not taking antidepressants.
00:44:36.000 Yes.
00:44:37.000 That's absolutely right.
00:44:38.000 It's fucking do something athletic.
00:44:40.000 Yes.
00:44:41.000 Get active.
00:44:42.000 Drink water.
00:44:42.000 100%.
00:44:43.000 Have a community that you enjoy hanging out with.
00:44:46.000 Like, that's what keeps people from being depressed.
00:44:48.000 And they've been sold this bill of goods that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain.
00:44:48.000 Exactly.
00:44:52.000 Well, that narrative was never supported by science and has now been completely dismissed.
00:44:58.000 That's not true.
00:44:58.000 Yeah.
00:44:59.000 We're just doing it still.
00:45:00.000 I mean, funnily enough, that was what I, one of the chapters, In that book, 2015 book, More Human, was about health.
00:45:07.000 And it was all that.
00:45:09.000 That's what I wrote about, which is this is crazy.
00:45:11.000 We've got.
00:45:12.000 And in fact, when I was in 10 Downing Street, you, you know, I was the senior advisor of the prime minister, and you're getting.
00:45:19.000 And mainly I focused on domestic policy.
00:45:21.000 That's what I focused on.
00:45:22.000 And you're there, you're at, you know, in 10 Downing Street, you get meetings, you can have meetings with kind of everyone will come in and have a meeting.
00:45:30.000 And I was really focused.
00:45:32.000 You've got the National Health Service, which is what the left want here, the Medicare for the single payer healthcare, whatever.
00:45:37.000 That's what there is in the UK.
00:45:40.000 And it's funded by the government, by taxpayers, 100%.
00:45:44.000 And so it's part of the budget, which is one of the problems.
00:45:47.000 It's always competing for money against everything else.
00:45:51.000 And so there's a real reason to try and get the cost down because you're funding it out of the budget for everything else.
00:45:59.000 And so health promotion is or should be a really big part of it.
00:46:03.000 And I wanted to really do much more on that that you should actually use the National Health Service to try and make people healthy instead of all the sickness stuff.
00:46:12.000 So I had all these meetings.
00:46:14.000 Trying to understand, you know, the Royal College of this, the Royal College of that, all the cancer people, all they all came in.
00:46:21.000 It was so hilarious after kind of months of these meetings of like, what do we need to do to make people healthy?
00:46:27.000 It's the simple, basic things in the end, what you just said.
00:46:31.000 It's like diet, nutrition, exactly.
00:46:33.000 Eat healthy, take exercise, sleep enough, moderate water.
00:46:39.000 Exactly.
00:46:40.000 Yeah.
00:46:40.000 All of those things.
00:46:41.000 Like all these geniuses of science and whatever.
00:46:44.000 I said, honestly, it's so basic.
00:46:48.000 But then, I was just seeing today there's this awful story about the mother who killed the children.
00:46:55.000 Awful story.
00:46:56.000 The mother, and she had really bad depression, postpartum depression, and was asking for help and all this.
00:47:05.000 And they just kept giving her this medication.
00:47:08.000 And she was saying, I think there are texts to her mother saying, This new medication they've got me on is really making me feel even more anxiety and I don't know what's going on.
00:47:17.000 Help, help, help.
00:47:19.000 And they showed all the medication she was on.
00:47:22.000 In the run up to this, it's shocking, like so shocking, just the amount of stuff they're loading her up with that must have sent her over the edge.
00:47:33.000 It's just terrible.
00:47:35.000 When you look at the commercials for these things and then you see the possible side effects, like who in their right mind would take something for depression which has side effects which causes suicidal ideation?
00:47:51.000 What?
00:47:52.000 I thought you were curing depression.
00:47:55.000 Your side effect is I might want to kill myself?
00:47:58.000 Like, it's like, this is a cure for depression, too.
00:48:01.000 Blow your brains out.
00:48:02.000 No more depression.
00:48:04.000 Like, it's a cartel.
00:48:07.000 It's a cartel in the United States.
00:48:09.000 I mean, it is a sanctioned tax, it's publicly traded.
00:48:14.000 It's a fucking cartel.
00:48:16.000 And they buy off politicians and they pass through regulations.
00:48:20.000 This is the thing I see, not just on this, but on.
00:48:24.000 On everything, again, it's just an eye opener.
00:48:26.000 I kind of suspected it.
00:48:28.000 But when you see just how cynical it is, this kind of corrupt, I don't know what you want to call it, you know, machine politics, this, I don't know, in Sacramento, where they literally buy what they want.
00:48:44.000 They buy the legislators that pass the bills that help their interest, whatever it is.
00:48:50.000 And that's why nothing really changes and no one knows what's going on.
00:48:56.000 No one follows it.
00:48:57.000 There's all these.
00:48:58.000 Laws they pass that end up with things happening in the real world that a normal person would say, How the fuck did that happen?
00:49:05.000 Exactly.
00:49:06.000 Well, three years ago, someone put in a bill that was probably written by the lobbyist for whoever it was.
00:49:14.000 Even the legislator who put their name on it probably never read it.
00:49:18.000 And then suddenly it's the law and all these bad things happen.
00:49:21.000 And that's what's going on.
00:49:23.000 Now, what could you do differently if you get an office?
00:49:26.000 Like, how much of this crazy entangled machine can you unwind?
00:49:34.000 Yeah, yeah, not the one I thought about.
00:49:34.000 Let's imagine.
00:49:36.000 People wake up, they go, Steve Hilton's making a lot of sense.
00:49:39.000 Let's vote him in.
00:49:39.000 And then even the liberals secretly run out and vote you in.
00:49:42.000 It's got to be too big to rig because that's the thing.
00:49:45.000 Yes, exactly.
00:49:46.000 Because the mail in ballots.
00:49:47.000 By the way, can you believe, and I will get into it, but did you see Kamala Harris the other day?
00:49:53.000 No.
00:49:54.000 She was at some conference or whatever doing her sort of maybe I'll run for president again.
00:49:58.000 Yeah, good luck.
00:50:00.000 I know.
00:50:01.000 The last one was pretty successful for only spending.
00:50:03.000 1.4 billion dollars.
00:50:06.000 She lost every single swing state.
00:50:10.000 It's very funny.
00:50:12.000 I sort of talk about it a lot because my guy, Becerra, he was asked the same question that she was asked.
00:50:19.000 Do you remember when she went on The View?
00:50:21.000 And it was like, What would you do different?
00:50:21.000 Right, right.
00:50:23.000 She's like, Oh, nothing comes to mind.
00:50:29.000 You haven't thought of it.
00:50:29.000 Really?
00:50:30.000 So he was asked, Becerra, my opponent, And he was on CNN.
00:50:35.000 The guy says, Look, it's obvious things aren't going well.
00:50:38.000 To be fair, the CNN and the interviewer said, Look, we got the highest.
00:50:42.000 He listed a few of the things.
00:50:43.000 Highest unemployment rate in America, which, by the way, no one can believe, but we have the highest unemployment rate of all 50 states.
00:50:49.000 Highest poverty rate, cost of living is a nightmare.
00:50:53.000 You know, what would you have done differently?
00:50:57.000 He says, Well, it can't be that bad because people are still coming to Disneyland and the beaches.
00:51:04.000 That's what he said.
00:51:06.000 And then.
00:51:06.000 He says, well, so no policy changes?
00:51:09.000 No.
00:51:10.000 Anyway, Carmela was at this thing the other day and she starts talking about the election and how.
00:51:17.000 And I don't know if she wasn't aware that Trump and MAGA had this slogan that was a massive part of their thing, too big to rig.
00:51:27.000 So she starts saying it as if it was a completely new thing.
00:51:30.000 She said it the other day.
00:51:31.000 You know, the thing that we have to do is make sure we get a really, you know, we've got to get everybody, you know, to coin a phrase, we have to make it too big to rig.
00:51:40.000 No way.
00:51:40.000 Like she said it.
00:51:41.000 She said it.
00:51:42.000 No way.
00:51:43.000 So she's alleging that it was rigged the last time?
00:51:43.000 Yeah.
00:51:45.000 I have no idea what she's talking about.
00:51:48.000 Like, I don't know what amount of.
00:51:51.000 Election fraud there is, but it's not zero.
00:51:53.000 It's not zero.
00:51:54.000 It's never been zero.
00:51:56.000 And the real weird one for me was how many more votes Biden got in 2020 than any other president ever.
00:52:05.000 We have a lot of work to do because, you know, these folks are cheating.
00:52:08.000 They're trying to rig the system, they're trying to draw maps, all of it.
00:52:13.000 You mean stuff that the Democrats have already done?
00:52:13.000 What?
00:52:16.000 It's so hilarious.
00:52:16.000 Exactly.
00:52:17.000 This is crazy.
00:52:18.000 We have to make it too big to rig.
00:52:20.000 We have to turn out in big numbers, jump all over these obstacles they're trying to throw our way.
00:52:25.000 We have to make it too big to rig.
00:52:27.000 What are you saying?
00:52:28.000 Like, how are they cheating?
00:52:30.000 Like, how is she alleging they're cheating?
00:52:35.000 The idea that that's the best they can do is so insane.
00:52:40.000 It's so wild.
00:52:42.000 It's so wild.
00:52:43.000 And it's because if you want to run for a politician, they will, if you don't follow their narrative and their plan to a fucking T, they're going to come for you.
00:52:56.000 And they're going to destroy you.
00:52:57.000 And it's usually some creepy sexual thing.
00:53:00.000 They're going to find someone who says that you did something to them in college or high school or whatever it is.
00:53:05.000 And they'll come up with as many things and throw them your way, as many things as they can find, and they get rid of you.
00:53:11.000 And they get rid of all of them.
00:53:12.000 Well, we'll see.
00:53:13.000 I mean, lucky they don't think I've got any chance of winning.
00:53:16.000 I think that's why they haven't done that.
00:53:18.000 But just on that, though, it's interesting.
00:53:20.000 It makes me think this whole system, this corrupt thing that I've encountered, And I don't want to lose your question about what I would do because I've thought about that a lot.
00:53:30.000 But it just, it's sort of amazing, but not amazing.
00:53:36.000 I knew it was like this, but to see it is something else.
00:53:40.000 The scale of it.
00:53:41.000 Yes.
00:53:41.000 So even things you might not imagine like, okay, a couple of you.
00:53:46.000 So there's the Chamber of Commerce, right?
00:53:48.000 It's called Cal Chamber in California, and it's all the big businesses.
00:53:55.000 And running a business in California is an absolute nightmare.
00:53:58.000 That's why they're all leaving.
00:54:00.000 That's why Elon left.
00:54:01.000 That's why so many companies leave.
00:54:03.000 Fuck Elon's in and out.
00:54:04.000 And every day there's a new one that's announced.
00:54:08.000 And then every day I meet business owners, big, small, medium, who say, we're just hanging on to see if you can make it.
00:54:18.000 And if you don't, we're out.
00:54:19.000 Right?
00:54:20.000 Every day.
00:54:21.000 Chief Executive Magazine has an annual survey of business conditions.
00:54:27.000 I think it was out in April, California, 50th out of 50 states.
00:54:31.000 Okay?
00:54:32.000 And I think it's been like that for 12, 13 years.
00:54:34.000 So it's like a disaster what's going on.
00:54:37.000 The Becerra who's running against it is for business climate.
00:54:40.000 So Alaska's better.
00:54:43.000 Every state in America is better.
00:54:45.000 North Dakota, South Dakota, Florida, Tennessee.
00:54:49.000 All right.
00:54:50.000 So you would think that whether you've got a choice between two people, right, one of whom explicitly says, I'm not going to change anything, that's Becerra.
00:55:01.000 And me, who's someone with business, most of my career has been in business.
00:55:05.000 When you do the ballot, you're allowed three words to describe yourself.
00:55:09.000 I actually wanted to do it fairly because I've done a bunch of different things.
00:55:13.000 And so I went through every year since I left Oxford, 1990s, 36 years.
00:55:18.000 And the majority of my career has been in business.
00:55:21.000 And most of those years, running my own businesses.
00:55:24.000 So I put small business owner.
00:55:27.000 That's the three words small business owner.
00:55:29.000 And like in a choice between that, you would think the California Chamber of Commerce, which represents business, would obviously want the guy who's pro business instead of the guy who's going to keep up this.
00:55:45.000 Anyway, we have this.
00:55:47.000 The money's still there for now, and they're getting that money.
00:55:51.000 Well, there's this lobbyist.
00:55:53.000 Yes.
00:55:53.000 It's this kind of.
00:55:54.000 It's all of that crowd, right?
00:55:55.000 And we have these endorsement meetings, and then they pick him.
00:56:00.000 They endorse the other guy, and then they say, We think their statement was so full of shit.
00:56:06.000 It was like, Oh, it's time for unifying, blah, blah, some completely bullshit political thing.
00:56:14.000 Of course, because I went in there and I said, We've got to change direction.
00:56:18.000 These policies are hurting business.
00:56:20.000 Whatever, I just said what I think.
00:56:22.000 And they went for him because all they actually care about is the power.
00:56:26.000 And they think he's going to win.
00:56:27.000 And so they want to be in with him.
00:56:29.000 Yeah.
00:56:30.000 And then the other one that was like that, that was in a way even more shocking, was the police.
00:56:34.000 So the police, whatever it's called, the police officers association, something, their union.
00:56:42.000 That same kind of thing.
00:56:44.000 You go to them and you try and get their endorsement.
00:56:48.000 By the way, I said at the beginning of this whole process, It's a waste of time because they will only care about their thing that they want to get more money for whatever it is.
00:57:00.000 And so I don't want to give them that because that's wrong.
00:57:04.000 And so they won't endorse me.
00:57:05.000 I'm just telling you, sure enough, we have this meeting.
00:57:08.000 And I'm completely on the side of the law and order thing.
00:57:14.000 It's gone crazy the defund the police, the insanity of how they deal with crime.
00:57:19.000 We've got to reverse all that prison closures, all these things.
00:57:23.000 And he's not said anything about that.
00:57:25.000 He'll just more of the same insanity.
00:57:28.000 They endorse him.
00:57:30.000 And then they told us why.
00:57:31.000 Because he promised to deliver on the one thing they really cared about, which is some bill that would increase their pensions.
00:57:42.000 Why don't you agree to that bill?
00:57:43.000 Because the pension, one of the reasons that the taxes are so high and everything is like, for example, you look at schools.
00:57:57.000 Everywhere I go, parents are saying, What's going on?
00:58:01.000 We pay the highest taxes anywhere, like state income tax, property tax, all these taxes.
00:58:07.000 And then we have to pay.
00:58:09.000 The schools are asking us to pay for basic supplies, like paper, books, like cleaning materials.
00:58:18.000 And the lottery money is supposed to go to schools as well.
00:58:20.000 And they're saying, What is going on?
00:58:22.000 Parents are really furious about it.
00:58:24.000 One of the reasons is because of the way they've done the pensions for the teachers.
00:58:28.000 You know, you want people to have good retirement, that's true.
00:58:30.000 But, like, a fifth, I think it's about a fifth of the money before it's even spent in the schools goes to the pensions.
00:58:35.000 It's a really, really bad situation.
00:58:38.000 I'm torn because I think they deserve pensions, particularly the police.
00:58:43.000 And I think I'd like to know what percentage of the budget.
00:58:48.000 I mean, think about it.
00:58:49.000 Listen, let's talk about money that's gone to places where it vanished, like the homeless.
00:58:55.000 $24 billion.
00:58:56.000 Yeah, at least.
00:58:57.000 At least.
00:58:58.000 And even though they've tried to get an audit of it, Newsom vetoed that, stopped them from doing it twice, right?
00:59:07.000 And in LA, there was a parallel in LA.
00:59:10.000 There was a lawsuit that ended up with the judge demanding a similar audit.
00:59:15.000 And the estimate was just for LA, it was $2 billion.
00:59:19.000 And Karen Bass vetoed the audit in LA.
00:59:22.000 Let's imagine that $2 billion instead went to fund the police.
00:59:26.000 Yes.
00:59:26.000 Better training, better conditions, better morale, better pensions.
00:59:32.000 Higher quality of people that you're hiring.
00:59:35.000 Totally agree with that.
00:59:36.000 We need to massively increase the numbers of police.
00:59:39.000 Right.
00:59:39.000 Now, imagine what an impact that would have on the encampments, on enforcing these laws.
00:59:44.000 You already have laws, they're just not enforcing it.
00:59:47.000 100%.
00:59:47.000 You're not supposed to enforce it.
00:59:49.000 The homeless encampments are illegal.
00:59:50.000 They're illegal.
00:59:51.000 That's what I always say.
00:59:51.000 My first point on my plan is enforce the law.
00:59:54.000 They're illegal.
00:59:55.000 Well, imagine what it's done to real estate in downtown.
01:00:00.000 It was the downtown real estate group, business group that filed that lawsuit that I was talking about for LA.
01:00:05.000 Exactly.
01:00:06.000 Los Angeles is the only place in the country that has a useless downtown.
01:00:10.000 It's one of the biggest cities in the world.
01:00:13.000 And I forgive, I mean, forgive me if you have a great business in downtown and you love the funky aspect of being.
01:00:20.000 There's wonderful restaurants in downtown.
01:00:22.000 I've traveled to them, but it's fucking sketchy.
01:00:24.000 It's sketchy.
01:00:25.000 I took my kids once to get donuts in downtown, and we were walking on the street, and like every step of the way, you're like, is this guy going to attack us?
01:00:34.000 Is that guy crazy?
01:00:35.000 I literally had it the other night.
01:00:36.000 We got in from somewhere.
01:00:39.000 Down to staying downtown right by City Hall, um, and got in quite late.
01:00:45.000 I wanted something to eat, the hotel didn't have anything, whatever.
01:00:47.000 And so I just walk around trying to find it.
01:00:50.000 It's a Saturday night, about it's not super late, it's like 8 9 p.m.
01:00:54.000 It's just unbelievable zombies, like zombies.
01:00:57.000 The stink of like feces, yeah.
01:01:02.000 I mean, it's disgusting, shit and piss everywhere, and it's a public health problem.
01:01:06.000 And you walk around and you think, I've always thought this is possible.
01:01:08.000 It's the second city of America, we're the richest country in the world, this is, and we're the richest state.
01:01:14.000 I mean, you're being ripped off like that, and this is what we end up with.
01:01:18.000 Let's talk about just the security.
01:01:19.000 But I agree with you on the police.
01:01:21.000 I mean, LAPD is saying that by the time the Olympics, it's two years away, they will have half the number of officers that they should have.
01:01:30.000 Half.
01:01:32.000 And yet our taxes are the highest in the country.
01:01:35.000 That's correct.
01:01:35.000 They've just increased the taxes in LA, local sales tax gone up.
01:01:40.000 What I was getting to was imagine Skid Row.
01:01:42.000 So Skid Row is roughly 50 something blocks, right?
01:01:45.000 Yeah.
01:01:45.000 So 50 blocks where no one wants to buy a building.
01:01:48.000 50 bucks where no one wants to put up a business.
01:01:51.000 No one wants to lease a building for 10 years if you've got encampments right in front of it.
01:01:57.000 You can't even clean them up.
01:01:58.000 You can't tell them to move.
01:01:59.000 You can't ask them to not shit on your porch.
01:02:02.000 There's nothing you could do.
01:02:02.000 It's just unbelievable.
01:02:04.000 So just think about all the tax revenue that's being lost, all the business being lost in all of those areas in downtown that is completely unsafe and contaminated.
01:02:13.000 It's just unbelievable.
01:02:14.000 The last time I went, I've been a few times, we went with this.
01:02:18.000 I don't, they've sort of destroyed the word nonprofit now.
01:02:21.000 I don't even want to say that.
01:02:22.000 Like an actual charity, like a really nice, a real one.
01:02:25.000 A real one who's done beautiful work.
01:02:27.000 It started off, they were trying to save the dogs.
01:02:30.000 And what they're doing with the dogs is just unbelievable using the dogs to test their drugs.
01:02:35.000 They use the dogs to make sure the drugs don't offend them.
01:02:37.000 It's disgusting.
01:02:37.000 Anyway, so they started off with that.
01:02:39.000 It was just a woman who's driving by and saw a dog in distress.
01:02:43.000 This is a few years ago and around that has built this beautiful charity.
01:02:46.000 It's going there.
01:02:47.000 We were there on a Sunday.
01:02:48.000 They're giving out.
01:02:49.000 Clothes and stuff trying to help people, and she knows all the people.
01:02:52.000 But this time, for some reason, I was even more infuriated than before because it's like if you're the mayor of LA or the governor of California and this is going on, what are you doing?
01:03:04.000 How can you do anything else before cleaning this up?
01:03:07.000 It's so.
01:03:08.000 Well, it was there when they got there, and it's sort of accepted that Skid Row in particular is always going to be there.
01:03:14.000 It's so bad.
01:03:15.000 It's been bad for a long time.
01:03:17.000 You know, I did Fear Factor in downtown LA.
01:03:20.000 We filmed a lot of our episodes in downtown LA because there were a lot of abandoned buildings because of Skid Row.
01:03:26.000 That's a big part of it.
01:03:27.000 But also, Los Angeles lost a lot of its manufacturing.
01:03:31.000 It just kind of like evaporated for whatever reasons.
01:03:34.000 So, one time I was driving home and I took the wrong turn.
01:03:37.000 And I was like, what the fuck is this?
01:03:40.000 And it was just an entire street filled with people in cardboard boxes and tents and garbage everywhere, just piles everywhere.
01:03:48.000 I was like, this is great.
01:03:50.000 And this was like 2004, 2005, maybe.
01:03:55.000 It was bad back then.
01:03:57.000 It's just.
01:03:57.000 Tucked away into this old place.
01:03:59.000 And we looked at it.
01:04:01.000 There was a documentary about the Cecil Hotel because there was a woman who drowned in one of the tanks.
01:04:07.000 And apparently they thought that she was murdered.
01:04:09.000 But then when they got the surveillance footage, it seems like she had a schizophrenic episode and she stopped taking her medication and she jumped into the tank and drowned in there.
01:04:18.000 So it was this whole thing of what the Cecil Hotel used to be like.
01:04:23.000 And that these people that come from other countries go, Oh, we're going to rent this hotel in downtown LA.
01:04:29.000 Must be nice.
01:04:31.000 It's a historic hotel.
01:04:32.000 It's been around since 1835 or whatever the fuck it is.
01:04:36.000 Like, oh, this should be great.
01:04:37.000 And then you get there, you're like, holy fuck, you're in the middle of Skid Row.
01:04:42.000 And it was part of the documentary, it was explaining how bad this area got.
01:04:47.000 It's so bad.
01:04:48.000 And it's also, there's something about the squalor, the filth, the just total disrespect.
01:04:56.000 They have medieval diseases that are emerging that we haven't seen in like 100 years.
01:05:02.000 It's unbelievable.
01:05:03.000 And I just think that it's amazing to me.
01:05:08.000 It's truly amazing that this just rolls on and like nothing happens.
01:05:13.000 Right.
01:05:14.000 It's not a state and national emergency.
01:05:16.000 It's not a scandal of the highest proportion, you know.
01:05:19.000 But no one goes there.
01:05:20.000 That's the thing.
01:05:21.000 As long as it stays contained, this was what this documentary was alleging: is that the practice of moving people to Skid Row started a long time ago.
01:05:32.000 And what it was is to clean up Los Angeles.
01:05:34.000 In Beverly Hills, they'd find vagrants, they'd grab them, bring them to downtown, drop them off there.
01:05:39.000 That's how it got started.
01:05:40.000 And then they kept them there.
01:05:42.000 They literally contained them there.
01:05:43.000 Yeah, but not anymore.
01:05:44.000 I mean, you don't see it everywhere.
01:05:46.000 Well, they don't have to because now they know this is the place where you can go and you can get drugs and you can get food.
01:05:50.000 And you get drugs from the government.
01:05:52.000 I mean, that's the point.
01:05:54.000 The government gives them drugs?
01:05:55.000 Yes, they do.
01:05:55.000 From what's called harm reduction, they call it.
01:05:58.000 What do they give them?
01:05:59.000 They give them opioids.
01:05:59.000 What drugs?
01:06:01.000 They give them opioids as a substitute for fentanyl.
01:06:04.000 Less dangerous.
01:06:06.000 What kind of opioids?
01:06:07.000 I don't know if it's a substitute.
01:06:08.000 Giving them like methadone?
01:06:10.000 Which is not really technically an opiate?
01:06:12.000 I can't remember.
01:06:13.000 We went there.
01:06:14.000 They wouldn't let us in, actually.
01:06:15.000 We tried to film inside.
01:06:16.000 There's a guy just did get inside, Christopher Ruffo from Manhattan Institute, and he got in.
01:06:21.000 He made a film about the crackpipes they're giving out or whatever.
01:06:24.000 They give out crackpipes?
01:06:25.000 Yeah, he did a little.
01:06:26.000 I mean, I don't know if that was a.
01:06:28.000 He made a.
01:06:29.000 I didn't see it myself.
01:06:29.000 I didn't see it myself.
01:06:29.000 I don't know.
01:06:30.000 I didn't see it myself.
01:06:31.000 Caring for those people.
01:06:31.000 But it's just ridiculous.
01:06:33.000 You've got.
01:06:34.000 But it's everywhere.
01:06:35.000 It's not just skitter.
01:06:36.000 That's the thing that's so.
01:06:40.000 I'm on the road the whole time.
01:06:42.000 I see the whole state like probably not many people do.
01:06:45.000 And just there's something about the degradation, the squalor in so many places, not everywhere, of course.
01:06:51.000 It's beautiful.
01:06:51.000 I love California.
01:06:52.000 Well, Melly Hills is gorgeous still.
01:06:54.000 There's still a lot of West.
01:06:55.000 Yeah, but even there.
01:06:56.000 There's still a whole lot more breaking and entering.
01:06:58.000 Exactly.
01:06:59.000 A whole lot more home invasions.
01:07:01.000 The home invasion is a huge thing.
01:07:03.000 I mean, that's why one of the things, again, we're just trying to make a difference here.
01:07:06.000 You know, you've got one particular thing with these home invasions.
01:07:12.000 They're all wearing masks now.
01:07:14.000 It's like a really big part, which didn't used to be the case.
01:07:17.000 And so we've been working on a plan that if you get enhancements for your sentencing just for covering yourself up, because we've got to try and.
01:07:27.000 There's no interest in trying to stop the government.
01:07:30.000 Not only that, there seems to be an interest in letting people out of jail who've committed violent crimes, which I would only do if I wanted to destroy a city.
01:07:39.000 It's crazy.
01:07:39.000 If you wanted to destroy a city, you would do it exactly the way they're doing it.
01:07:43.000 And then the other thing is.
01:07:44.000 You hire the most progressive DAs who are willing to let people out no matter what, and then you use a bunch of words like racism, systemic racism, whatever, discrimination.
01:07:55.000 This is the reason why Mike has robbed 99 people over the last 12 years.
01:08:01.000 And well, the one thing that's good news though is the new DA is pretty good, Nathan.
01:08:05.000 Oh, that's good.
01:08:06.000 He's good.
01:08:06.000 He's good.
01:08:07.000 I supported him.
01:08:08.000 I saw him the other night.
01:08:09.000 So he's really doing a good job.
01:08:10.000 Shows that you can make a change, actually.
01:08:13.000 Right.
01:08:14.000 I mean, look, he's up against a whole system in the political system, which is still captured by that kind of insane ideology.
01:08:24.000 And so much of what you see going wrong in California is exactly that ideology over anything that's practical.
01:08:31.000 Yeah.
01:08:31.000 Yes.
01:08:32.000 And it's also, you have to adhere to.
01:08:35.000 To the narrative.
01:08:36.000 Yes.
01:08:37.000 Or you will be punished.
01:08:38.000 And so everyone's scared.
01:08:39.000 So they say a bunch of things that they, you know, they think make sense.
01:08:45.000 There was a really unbelievable example of it.
01:08:48.000 There was a Democrat state legislator, I think somewhere like Santa Cruz, somewhere like that, this is a couple of years ago, who voted the wrong way on a bill that one of the government unions was pushing.
01:09:03.000 I can't remember the details, but it was like.
01:09:06.000 Offended the maybe it was the university teachers, something like that.
01:09:09.000 Um, a Democrat, and then they then funded the campaign of the Republican just to teach them not to step out of line.
01:09:23.000 Just the well, there's a bunch of Republicans that you know they like to call rhinos, you know, that right, you know, Republican in name only.
01:09:23.000 It's amazing.
01:09:30.000 There's a lot of those folks that's they're basically Trojan horses.
01:09:33.000 You know, look, I think we have a real problem in this country where there's only two parties, you know.
01:09:39.000 I just think it's crazy.
01:09:42.000 There's so many people, like me, for instance, that agree with a lot of the things that the left pushes and agree with many of the things that the right pushes, but some of the things the right pushes are fucking ridiculous.
01:09:53.000 And some of the things that the left pushes are fucking ridiculous.
01:09:55.000 But you have two choices.
01:09:57.000 Yeah.
01:09:57.000 And you're defined by the worst members of each party.
01:10:01.000 You're defined by the dumbest MAGA people versus the fucking, you know, the Portland people.
01:10:07.000 It's like these are your options.
01:10:08.000 You have to be completely ridiculous people who believe in non binary folk.
01:10:13.000 And then you have people that are, you know, think this is a Christian nation and we should kick out all the Muslims.
01:10:19.000 So it's interesting because I thought about this when, not that, I didn't think about it that much.
01:10:19.000 Yeah.
01:10:26.000 But there are a few people, because I think for what I'm about to say, it doesn't work.
01:10:29.000 But a few people say, oh, you should run as an independent.
01:10:32.000 You shouldn't run as a Republican.
01:10:34.000 And, you know, I am independent minded and I've never run for office.
01:10:34.000 Yeah.
01:10:38.000 I'm not part of this machine.
01:10:39.000 I'll just say what I think, especially because no one thinks I'm going to win.
01:10:42.000 I might as well just go for it.
01:10:44.000 Say what I think.
01:10:45.000 But exactly right.
01:10:47.000 You won't win.
01:10:48.000 Yeah.
01:10:49.000 There's just no way.
01:10:49.000 You won't win.
01:10:50.000 Like when Bobby Kennedy was telling me that he was going to run as an independent, I was like, sheesh.
01:10:54.000 Yeah, like Michael Schellenberg.
01:10:56.000 He's like, you fucking can't win.
01:10:57.000 Do you know Michael Schellenberg?
01:10:58.000 He's fantastic.
01:10:59.000 Yeah, he's great.
01:11:00.000 And he ran for governor twice as an independent.
01:11:02.000 Yeah.
01:11:03.000 And I remember, yeah, I tried to help.
01:11:05.000 Do you think he knew he wasn't going to win?
01:11:05.000 I put him on my show.
01:11:07.000 Do you think that was the.
01:11:08.000 Yeah, I mean, he's, you know, it's good for his career.
01:11:11.000 Oh, okay.
01:11:12.000 And it gives him an opportunity to speak his mind.
01:11:14.000 He says a lot of very, very interesting and intelligent things.
01:11:17.000 Yes, he's great.
01:11:19.000 Yeah, I mean, he's great at exposing a lot of horseshit.
01:11:23.000 Yeah.
01:11:23.000 You know, he's really good at that.
01:11:25.000 He's very meticulous.
01:11:26.000 He's a good journalist.
01:11:27.000 No, I'm really doing it because I don't laugh.
01:11:30.000 I really believe that I can win.
01:11:33.000 For real.
01:11:34.000 Well, you might be able to because California is that fucked.
01:11:37.000 California is that fucked that I think there's a lot of.
01:11:39.000 Look, we lived in a very liberal area when I lived in California.
01:11:44.000 Everyone was very liberal and it was normal.
01:11:46.000 It was like it was normal liberal.
01:11:48.000 Like what it used to mean.
01:11:49.000 Like you believed in gay rights, you believed in women's rights, you believed in civil rights.
01:11:54.000 Normal stuff.
01:11:55.000 You believed in a social safety net.
01:11:56.000 Normal stuff.
01:11:57.000 Like, that was what it used to mean to be a liberal.
01:11:59.000 Bill Clinton, liberal.
01:12:00.000 From like the 90s.
01:12:00.000 That's right.
01:12:01.000 If you listen to Bill Clinton talk today, he sounds like he's running for a Republican.
01:12:06.000 Nobody.
01:12:06.000 And on immigration, have you seen these clips that people have not seen?
01:12:09.000 He's more MAGA.
01:12:10.000 Hillary was the most MAGA.
01:12:11.000 All right.
01:12:12.000 She literally, there's one the other day where she was, that I hadn't seen before, which was so, it's like, we can't have all these illegal immigrants and we have to, and it was about the health care.
01:12:25.000 We can't be giving free health care.
01:12:27.000 To illegal immigrants because we cannot have incentives for more illegal immigrants to come.
01:12:32.000 Republican talking point.
01:12:33.000 Amazing.
01:12:34.000 Crazy.
01:12:35.000 But it just shows you it's all bullshit.
01:12:37.000 It's not real.
01:12:38.000 Like this idea that if you're on the left, you're supporting science, you're supporting civil rights, you're supporting.
01:12:44.000 They're telling you that to get your vote to science.
01:12:46.000 They're like, they can steal money.
01:12:49.000 That's all it is.
01:12:51.000 As soon as you accept that, you realize, like, oh, both parties are completely full of shit.
01:12:55.000 They just fuck you in different ways.
01:12:57.000 There's definitely one thing I've noticed there's in.
01:13:02.000 Yeah, in the most of, in Sacramento and the legislature, they've, I think they're just, I don't know, either they don't believe it or they've just been beaten down.
01:13:12.000 And so you've had this, they've just gone along with it.
01:13:15.000 But actually now you've got a few Republicans in California and they're friends of mine and we're working together.
01:13:22.000 You wouldn't have heard of any of, you know, people like Carl DeMaio, David Tangapai, Ali Macedo, the new leader in the assembly, really actually have got this, you know, we're real kind of friends and allies.
01:13:34.000 In fighting back against the corruption.
01:13:37.000 That's the big thing I think that you learn when you do it the interest groups, the big business, the big unions, they've just completely captured the government.
01:13:49.000 And I think it's fair to say the Republicans have been part of that.
01:13:53.000 But there's a group of us now who really don't buy it and we're fighting back.
01:13:58.000 I think we can make a big difference.
01:14:00.000 If we get, you know, if we can, they've got a two thirds majority in the legislature.
01:14:05.000 They call it a supermajority.
01:14:06.000 It's been like that for more than 10 years.
01:14:08.000 So they can do whatever they want, the Democrats, and the Republicans have been kind of irrelevant.
01:14:12.000 If we can just win a few more seats so they don't have a supermajority, and if I can get elected, and then we can start to chip away at it, for sure.
01:14:23.000 I think it's important to not let either party have complete and total control.
01:14:28.000 That's exactly right.
01:14:30.000 And I don't think this is just the Democrats.
01:14:34.000 I think if the Republicans are in their same position, we have a unique.
01:14:37.000 Another unique set of corruption and problems that would be similar.
01:14:40.000 They'd be finding other ways to steal money.
01:14:42.000 I mean, this is the fundamental.
01:14:44.000 I 100% agree.
01:14:45.000 I mean, that's what I say to Democrats.
01:14:49.000 And we can see it in some of the numbers.
01:14:50.000 I'm doing well with independents.
01:14:52.000 We're getting Democrats come to my events.
01:14:53.000 And one of the things I say is like, it's just not healthy to have one party running everything.
01:14:58.000 And for the last 16 years, in California, they've had all the statewide elected positions governor, and the other ones, attorney general, whatever, two thirds majority in both legislative chambers, every big city, every big county, the state Supreme Court.
01:15:16.000 Six one Democrat appointees, they just rubber stamp what, whatever they want.
01:15:22.000 And it's just not healthy.
01:15:24.000 And it gets into this mentality of arrogance where they just feel they can do whatever they want and no one's ever going to, you know, stop them.
01:15:35.000 Yeah.
01:15:36.000 That's where we're at.
01:15:37.000 And again, if the Republicans were in the same position of power, you'd have another different set of problems that was probably very similar because it's just how people operate when there's, When they have control.
01:15:48.000 When they have complete control, it's just like if you have an authoritarian government.
01:15:51.000 Yes, that's exactly right.
01:15:53.000 Similar kind of a situation.
01:15:54.000 You have no one's challenging your position of power and you get to do whatever you want to do.
01:15:59.000 And then you have a bunch of people that funded your campaign and give you a bunch of money.
01:16:02.000 And then they're helping you out with this and business deals to your uncle and this and that.
01:16:06.000 Yeah.
01:16:07.000 And the Republicans do the same shit.
01:16:08.000 We were just now in Hungary with Viktor Orban.
01:16:11.000 So I know Hungary well because my family still live there.
01:16:15.000 And funny enough, it was 16 years he was in power.
01:16:18.000 Same amount of time as the Democrats in California.
01:16:20.000 And by the end, it was all exactly what you're talking about.
01:16:24.000 Like just unbelievable levels of corruption.
01:16:27.000 Yeah.
01:16:28.000 And it's always, if they have total control, they're going to be corrupt.
01:16:32.000 Especially if they don't have any oversight, if they can just get away with it.
01:16:35.000 Like this homeless thing where they've lost the $24 billion and the governor can say, nope, don't look into that.
01:16:40.000 Stamp.
01:16:41.000 You can veto that.
01:16:43.000 How is that legal?
01:16:45.000 How is it legal that you could veto something that's legal?
01:16:47.000 Yeah.
01:16:47.000 And actually, the amazing thing about that is that it was even the The Democrat supermajority that did that, right?
01:16:56.000 So the process was the state auditor, it was a Republican legislator that asked the state auditor to look at it.
01:17:02.000 So it was initiated by a Republican.
01:17:04.000 State auditor publishes the report 24 billion missing.
01:17:07.000 The legislature as a whole, which is two thirds Democrat run, said, We need a proper audit.
01:17:12.000 It was these guys, it was the Democrats.
01:17:14.000 Yes, it was everyone.
01:17:15.000 It's crazy.
01:17:16.000 Yeah, because those Democrats weren't completely corrupt.
01:17:19.000 It's amazing.
01:17:20.000 You know, they're like, You'd have to be completely corrupt to not look into that.
01:17:24.000 I know.
01:17:25.000 It's amazing.
01:17:26.000 And then the bullshit excuse that they come out, oh, it's not necessary because of.
01:17:31.000 Oh, it's not necessary to look at where $24 billion went.
01:17:35.000 And not just didn't work, but homelessness increased by a substantial margin.
01:17:40.000 Well, because the money, the answer to the question is very obvious.
01:17:44.000 When we say that term, homeless industrial complex, what is it?
01:17:48.000 You look at it, it's basically got two parts to it.
01:17:51.000 You've got the nonprofits.
01:17:52.000 Like we talked about, that just keep getting the money.
01:17:56.000 They've actually made it illegal to solve the problem.
01:17:59.000 So they've, no, I'm not joking.
01:18:02.000 It's illegal for state money to go to any of these organizations that require any kind of response from the homeless person.
01:18:12.000 So you can't require addiction treatment, recovery, anything like that, job training, nothing.
01:18:19.000 It's illegal.
01:18:20.000 It's called Housing First.
01:18:22.000 So, like, obviously, when you've got 80%, and the fentanyl is a really big problem.
01:18:26.000 The idea that it's a housing issue is so preposterous, too.
01:18:30.000 So you've got the nonprofits, but then the other part of it, which is where actually the bulk of the money is going, are these crony developers.
01:18:37.000 There's a very small group of developers, house builders, that build these apartment units.
01:18:44.000 They called it permanent supportive housing, the other, you know, shelter.
01:18:49.000 And they're charging up to, I mean, a low ball estimate is about $600,000.
01:18:56.000 There are some in LA, in the Bay Area, that are $900,000, a million dollars per unit to build, right?
01:19:03.000 I've got a friend that builds apartments in the Bay Area.
01:19:07.000 You know, he said, without all the government bullshit that goes around it, the layers of nonsense that they put in if it's taxpayer money, the union contracts that you've got to use this kind of material.
01:19:17.000 the environmental, all this stuff.
01:19:19.000 You could build it for a quarter, like 250,000 per door, they call it.
01:19:24.000 Four times as much.
01:19:25.000 That's where the money's going.
01:19:26.000 And then you get the unit, whatever, they put the homeless person in there who's still addicted to fentanyl.
01:19:35.000 And as I went, again, with a real charity in Venice, we went round a guy who's a recovered addict, recovering addict, and 23 years clean.
01:19:44.000 And he's actually trying to help people.
01:19:46.000 He actually hired, you know, he rents Airbnbs.
01:19:48.000 And he does group recovery, and they have a recovery program they do together.
01:19:53.000 He says, like, these guys that are getting the permanent supportive housing, it's like a second home because they're going back to the street to buy drugs, deal drugs, because they're addicts.
01:20:05.000 Yeah.
01:20:05.000 And you're not changing the behavior.
01:20:07.000 They're addicts and they're mentally ill.
01:20:09.000 And so there's a massive influx of homeless people during the Reagan administration where they kind of like opened the doors of the mental institutions and say, well, we're not going to fund this anymore, which is.
01:20:21.000 For public health and safety, that is a fucking terrible idea.
01:20:24.000 And they, but then the other thing about that, I completely agree, is that they then, that's been incorporated, that idea that you can't have mental institutions, insane asylums, there's this kind of general sense that that's barbaric and you don't want people in these institutions and it's better to have them cared in the community.
01:20:24.000 Yeah.
01:20:45.000 So that's incorporated into Medicaid.
01:20:48.000 And so often with government, you've got to look at the money flows.
01:20:51.000 And one of the things that's, Still, there is this rule called IMD, Institutions of Mental Disease.
01:20:58.000 And the IMD rule is that there's no reimbursement from federal Medicaid to any treatment that happens in a facility with more than 16 beds.
01:21:08.000 It's a very specific limit, 16 beds, because it's all based on this philosophy of we don't want big mental institutions.
01:21:19.000 So that means that there's no incentive to have modern, large scale.
01:21:24.000 Mental health care.
01:21:26.000 Because it's all these small things, because you don't get any money back.
01:21:29.000 I think people are also rightly suspicious of the potential for a medical health industrial complex.
01:21:38.000 Definitely.
01:21:38.000 And then think of how many people.
01:21:40.000 Imagine if they could just.
01:21:42.000 Like, have you ever seen that video of there's a guy who gets pulled over and the cops on the spot tell him that he's been evaluated as being mentally unwell and he needs to come in?
01:21:53.000 And the guy is.
01:21:54.000 Completely calm and rational when he's talking to him.
01:21:58.000 And he's like, Well, make an appointment and I'll go and get evaluated.
01:22:02.000 And he's like, No, we're going to bring you in.
01:22:03.000 He's like, What are you saying?
01:22:04.000 Well, you've been deemed unwell.
01:22:06.000 He's like, By who?
01:22:07.000 I don't have, there's no ruling against me.
01:22:10.000 It's really interesting.
01:22:11.000 So apparently, there's more to it.
01:22:13.000 And this video went viral.
01:22:15.000 Apparently, there have been some videos of this guy where he posted online where he's acting kind of loony.
01:22:21.000 I saw a couple of them.
01:22:22.000 I was like, Yeah, it's a little problematic.
01:22:25.000 But Could also be he's acting out on camera.
01:22:28.000 I don't know if he's doing this in real life, like just because someone's doing it in videos.
01:22:32.000 So, like a lot of people act out in video just for attention, or maybe that's how he blows off steam, says wild shit, like, you know, we need to eat the earth, or I don't know what the fuck he's saying.
01:22:42.000 So there's, but the video is very disturbing because in that moment, if these police officers in Canada are supposed to be evaluating someone who doesn't have an official psych evaluation where he's been brought in and they'd said, you know, you have to be institutionalized.
01:23:00.000 So that hasn't happened.
01:23:02.000 And so they're pulling this guy over.
01:23:04.000 And based on his interaction with them, he is completely calm and rational.
01:23:10.000 In fact, like charitably so, because they're saying something fucking totally preposterous and he's not yelling, he doesn't raise his voice.
01:23:17.000 He's coherent.
01:23:18.000 He's articulate.
01:23:19.000 I want you to watch it because it's kind of crazy.
01:23:20.000 Yeah, that's terrible.
01:23:21.000 Jamie, I'm sure you could find it.
01:23:22.000 Yeah, I was trying to find the update, though.
01:23:23.000 That's really terrifying.
01:23:25.000 But let's just look at the actual video itself because the video itself is bizarre.
01:23:29.000 Because without any context, and again, I think there is some context, there have been some videos where he acted nutty.
01:23:35.000 And this guy might just be manic depressive where he's capable of keeping it together, like to pretend he's normal when the cops are there.
01:23:42.000 But then as soon as he's on his own and no one's watching him, he goes insane.
01:23:45.000 That is possible.
01:23:46.000 But did they have any prior knowledge of him?
01:23:49.000 What was that based on?
01:23:51.000 Someone had told them that he's off the rails, so they went in to go get him.
01:23:56.000 But the thing is, shouldn't there be some sort of an official psychiatric evaluation?
01:24:03.000 Conservative influencer.
01:24:05.000 Ah, he's a conservative influencer.
01:24:06.000 Being held captive in Canadian.
01:24:08.000 I'm not sure if that's real or not.
01:24:13.000 I just was trying to wait until I could get to the video here.
01:24:16.000 Okay.
01:24:16.000 Well, let's watch the video.
01:24:19.000 Put your headphones on.
01:24:19.000 Because the video is kind of kooky.
01:24:20.000 And this is Dr. Emery.
01:24:21.000 He's a resident psychiatrist.
01:24:22.000 Senior resident, he's on a rotation with the CAR 87.
01:24:24.000 We're part of a program that includes Vancouver Coastal Health and the Vancouver Police.
01:24:32.000 And what we do is we go to people when there are different reasons that come up.
01:24:39.000 Every case is a little different, and we go to people to see them where they are, especially if there have been issues with trying to find them and talk to them.
01:24:51.000 You were certified under the Mental Health Act just, I don't know how long ago, but like maybe three weeks ago or four weeks ago.
01:24:58.000 Were you aware of that?
01:24:59.000 Dr. Taylor saw you in a cafe.
01:25:01.000 She didn't certify you.
01:25:02.000 I think you filmed part of it.
01:25:04.000 Okay.
01:25:04.000 Yeah.
01:25:04.000 And this is Dr. Emery.
01:25:05.000 He's arrested.
01:25:07.000 And then she spoke with your family, got some more information.
01:25:12.000 And, you know, you're going to have to turn that off.
01:25:15.000 So just one sec.
01:25:17.000 What the officer just told me is that, you know, you and I can set up a meeting and we can chat then.
01:25:21.000 So why don't we do that, okay?
01:25:23.000 I'm not turning the camera off.
01:25:24.000 I have a legal right to keep the camera on.
01:25:26.000 If you don't want to make the appointment now, we can do it at another time.
01:25:29.000 But that's what the officer just asked that we do.
01:25:32.000 So why don't we do that?
01:25:33.000 So I'm going to certify you under the Mental Health Act.
01:25:35.000 We're going to bring you to the hospital, do testing on you.
01:25:38.000 And you're going to talk to a psychiatrist in a controlled environment because we don't believe that you're going to attend an appointment.
01:25:47.000 I've never been given a chance to attend an appointment.
01:25:49.000 So he's certified.
01:25:52.000 I've never been given a chance to attend an appointment.
01:25:56.000 What is going on?
01:25:57.000 I haven't, I was never given a psych eval or nothing.
01:25:59.000 He just looked at me and said, you're certified.
01:26:01.000 But no, he didn't even give me a, he didn't even give me an eval.
01:26:07.000 He just looked at me and said, I'm certified.
01:26:09.000 Please, please consider what you're doing and please think about the fact that I'm more than happy to come in for an appointment.
01:26:09.000 I get that.
01:26:15.000 I'm happy to go through and do everything properly.
01:26:17.000 I just, I've been completely compliant with everything.
01:26:17.000 Okay.
01:26:20.000 Yes, you've been really good at me, Nicholas.
01:26:23.000 But listen, that's his call and unfortunately we can't get him checked out by a doctor.
01:26:28.000 I've been given a chance.
01:26:29.000 So I had some eggs and stuff for breakfast this morning.
01:26:34.000 Yeah.
01:26:36.000 I didn't put drapes, so I had to tape this up because my window didn't have drapes.
01:26:41.000 And so all night, there's just light beaming into my room.
01:26:45.000 So I couldn't sleep last night, so I demanded that they give me tape and stuff to put on my window so that I could sleep tonight.
01:26:52.000 I'm like one of the only rooms that has no drapes.
01:26:57.000 Oh my god.
01:27:02.000 Shangri La, baby.
01:27:05.000 How fucking strange.
01:27:07.000 This is crazy.
01:27:08.000 So.
01:27:08.000 Strange.
01:27:09.000 Here's the thing.
01:27:10.000 Like, this doctor ran into him somewhere and said, I'm certifying you.
01:27:15.000 Based on what?
01:27:17.000 And is he really a conservative influencer or is that a narrative?
01:27:17.000 That's right.
01:27:21.000 Like, I don't understand what that means.
01:27:23.000 Like, if you are quote unquote conservative and you have a thousand people on your Instagram and you rant and rave, you know, in a manic, depressive manner, is that, are you a conservative influencer now or is that like rage bait to get them to say, like, but here's the thing.
01:27:38.000 Like, Canada has socialized medicine and they also have insane government overreach.
01:27:43.000 Exactly.
01:27:44.000 And if there was someone who was a rabble rouser online and that person happened to be acting a little kooky, wouldn't that be a great time?
01:27:52.000 But meanwhile, how many fucking liberal, this is Vancouver, which is like Portland on steroids.
01:27:58.000 Like how many kooky fucking people on the left are being pulled into mental hospitals and making these similar videos?
01:28:06.000 Fucking zero, which is a little odd, but it doesn't mean that this guy's not a little off the rails.
01:28:12.000 Because the videos that I saw, see if you can find some videos of him, they might have been pulled from the internet.
01:28:17.000 But a bunch of people were saying, hold on, there's more to this.
01:28:20.000 And they were showing some of the.
01:28:21.000 Here's the other problem I don't know if those videos are real.
01:28:24.000 Those videos could be AI.
01:28:26.000 You know, in this day and age, it's almost impossible to tell.
01:28:29.000 You could have video of this guy.
01:28:31.000 You'd say, have this guy screaming stuff about needing a vagina in the middle of his back.
01:28:37.000 You could have anything.
01:28:38.000 You could say anything.
01:28:39.000 But this is why you've got to be so careful about authoritarianism creeping into government.
01:28:46.000 It really is.
01:28:46.000 Yes.
01:28:47.000 That right there.
01:28:47.000 First of all, I don't like his backseat, all that shit, boxes and stuff.
01:28:52.000 That looks a little kooky.
01:28:54.000 Like, that fits that he might be losing his marbles if he's got, you know, stacks of stuff, unless he's like leaving an office and moving stuff and put it in his backseat temporarily.
01:29:04.000 It's a weird sign when the entire backseat is filled with boxes and trash.
01:29:08.000 You might be losing your marbles.
01:29:10.000 But he did sound like there's no, in my eyes, listening to him talk, there's no indication that this guy's a threat to himself and he must be institutionalized.
01:29:21.000 Mm hmm.
01:29:22.000 That guy's more than capable of speaking in a very rational manner.
01:29:25.000 So even if he's nuts, he's not that nuts.
01:29:28.000 There's a lot of nutty people.
01:29:30.000 Yes, much more dangerous.
01:29:32.000 To me, this is very, like, we're talking earlier about the medicalization and everything.
01:29:37.000 And there's a trend here of this inhumanity that is really, really dark.
01:29:46.000 I mean, did you see the, I don't know if you followed the back and forth with the AI guys.
01:29:57.000 Regulating AI and whether AI is positive or negative, that whole debate.
01:30:04.000 Which.
01:30:04.000 Did you see Amadei, the anthropic guy?
01:30:08.000 What did he do?
01:30:08.000 Just in the last few days, there was this.
01:30:12.000 It was.
01:30:12.000 I think it was on one of the other.
01:30:14.000 On All In.
01:30:14.000 That's right.
01:30:15.000 Someone was talking about him wanting to have.
01:30:20.000 Like hyping up the doom scenario from AI.
01:30:24.000 These guys that are hyping up the doom of AI are the actual people that were working.
01:30:28.000 On it.
01:30:29.000 This is what it is.
01:30:29.000 This is what it is.
01:30:30.000 Atari Amadei, who's the CEO and the founder of Anthropic.
01:30:34.000 And he replied, and so the argument was he's hyping it up because he wants regulation, government regulation, that will protect the kind of big incumbents against, you know, competition.
01:30:47.000 That was the argument.
01:30:48.000 And then he replied to the argument by saying he's had some stuff about regulation.
01:30:53.000 Then he did long posts on X.
01:30:55.000 And the first one was about the regulation.
01:30:57.000 The second one was about actually, I'm not that, I'm not Mr. Doom when it comes to AI.
01:31:02.000 I've always said it can be really positive.
01:31:05.000 And one of the things he pointed to.
01:31:06.000 Was this essay that he wrote called Machines of Loving Grace?
01:31:11.000 14,000 words.
01:31:12.000 And that was his response to being characterized as Mr. Negative.
01:31:17.000 When you look at this thing, it's so dark.
01:31:20.000 Like he's going on about, well, there'll be no, we can foresee a time when human beings can't make useful contributions to the economy and the people won't have much to do and then they can play video games.
01:31:36.000 And then at one point, this is the thing that made me think of it.
01:31:40.000 When he was raising, well, what are kids going to do?
01:31:43.000 And there's an he starts going about.
01:31:45.000 We have things like Ritalin, and we know how to medicate people when they're depressed.
01:31:51.000 So it's fine if they don't have a sense of worth.
01:31:54.000 Ritalin?
01:31:54.000 Are you kidding?
01:31:55.000 If they don't have a sense of worth, it will numb them.
01:31:57.000 Literally, that's what he wrote.
01:31:59.000 And that's what he pointed to as him being Mr. Positive.
01:32:04.000 It's just terrifying.
01:32:05.000 So this is recently?
01:32:07.000 This is within the last week.
01:32:09.000 Okay.
01:32:09.000 And what is his position in the company?
01:32:10.000 He's the CEO, he's the founder of Anthropic.
01:32:13.000 Like the main, the big two.
01:32:13.000 Okay.
01:32:15.000 The programmers, though, are the ones that are leaving and writing poetry.
01:32:19.000 They're giving up on society and they're hiding and waiting.
01:32:24.000 There's one lead programmer that read, he wrote some, like, basically a statement as he was leaving explaining the impending doom that is coming to civilization and how he's checking out and he's going to write it out and see what happens.
01:32:24.000 You know, you hear about that.
01:32:40.000 But he left the United States.
01:32:41.000 I think he went to Ireland or somewhere like that.
01:32:44.000 Okay.
01:32:44.000 And he said he's going to write poetry.
01:32:46.000 Okay.
01:32:47.000 Like, I mean, this is an existential crisis this guy's having while he's working on it.
01:32:47.000 Like, okay.
01:32:52.000 Working on this thing and realizing this thing is conscious.
01:32:55.000 Well, that's one of the things that I feel is so odd about the two that have been most negative are Amadei, Dario Amadei, he's anthropic, and Sam Altman, OpenAI.
01:33:08.000 They're the most negative, or have been.
01:33:12.000 And if you believe half the things they're saying, they're like, well, why are you doing it then?
01:33:17.000 If you think this is the end of the human, whatever.
01:33:19.000 I know they.
01:33:21.000 Dialed it back a bit, but why would you keep building something?
01:33:24.000 Did you see when Peter Thiel got asked whether the human race should survive?
01:33:30.000 What did he say?
01:33:31.000 He paused for like fucking 15 seconds.
01:33:33.000 Like, um, um, I didn't read this, but permission says that the mention of Ritalin is like a good thing.
01:33:41.000 Like, yeah, figured out how to improve ourselves with things like Ritalin and using AI could potentially make it even better.
01:33:49.000 I mean, come on, that AI will make Ritalin even better, so we'll just be on awesome drugs.
01:33:53.000 No, it.
01:33:54.000 Yeah, that we'll find better versions of drugs that are better than Ritalin.
01:33:57.000 So instead of people finding meaning and purpose in life, that's just not how it's being talked about.
01:34:01.000 Well, what is he saying?
01:34:02.000 Why is he using Ritalin?
01:34:03.000 It's not in the nothing to do and work and meaning discussion.
01:34:06.000 It appears the speculation is just about the future of neuroscience.
01:34:09.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.
01:34:10.000 So what they're saying, they're talking about increasing the potency or making these things more effective for mental health interventions using AI.
01:34:21.000 Okay, so he argues that AI driven biology could enable much greater cognitive and mental health interventions than those available today.
01:34:28.000 That's really wonderful if true, right?
01:34:32.000 I personally know people that have been saved by SSRIs.
01:34:35.000 I'm not a blanket, SSRIs are bad.
01:34:38.000 I have a friend that was severely depressed and suicidal, and I got him a psychiatrist, and he eventually got his life back in gear, weaned himself off him, now he's great.
01:34:47.000 So, who knows?
01:34:48.000 That guy could have made a hasty decision and taken his own life, and if he was in Canada, they might have probably fucking encouraged it.
01:34:54.000 So he's fine now.
01:34:56.000 It's just the problem is they're ridiculously overprescribed, and there's another solution.
01:35:02.000 The other solution is a natural human solution.
01:35:04.000 It doesn't involve medication.
01:35:06.000 Involves exercise and nutrition and community.
01:35:08.000 And we can all encourage that for free.
01:35:11.000 You know, you can fucking do push ups and bodyweight squats.
01:35:14.000 It doesn't cost you a nickel.
01:35:15.000 You don't have to go to a pharmacy.
01:35:17.000 Like, all these things are already here.
01:35:20.000 Like, why are we developing addictive chemical solutions?
01:35:24.000 Yes.
01:35:24.000 Because they're all addictive, every one of them.
01:35:27.000 I have a good buddy right now who got off of them.
01:35:29.000 He was doing great, and now he's back on them again.
01:35:32.000 Because he's fucked.
01:35:34.000 His system's fucked because he's been on them for 20 years.
01:35:38.000 And it's scary because I know people that have been on them that have done rash things.
01:35:43.000 And they just don't feel like they are themselves anymore.
01:35:47.000 And then there's also the weird sexual side effects, the numbness of the generals, inability to have orgasms.
01:35:53.000 There's a lot of fucking weird shit attached to it when there's another solution.
01:35:57.000 That's what's so.
01:35:59.000 Here's some interesting context.
01:36:01.000 According to Snopes, that guy was arrested after he posted the Vancouver thing.
01:36:05.000 After he posted what?
01:36:06.000 This document.
01:36:07.000 This is not a solicitation.
01:36:09.000 If you find this document unattended, do not remove it from the property where it was placed.
01:36:12.000 Unless you're the owner of said property, removing this document makes you criminally liable for an indictable offense carrying a penalty of up to 10 years in prison.
01:36:20.000 It's on Google Docs.
01:36:20.000 So, what is this document?
01:36:22.000 It's just the brief explanation.
01:36:25.000 It's talking about how China and Canada are corrupt and making a dictatorship.
01:36:29.000 It says China and the corrupt Canadian government are trying to turn Vancouver into a dictatorship police state.
01:36:36.000 China has been classified as a high risk adversary by all long term democratic security alliances, NATO, NORAD, The Five Eyes Alliance, the Canadian Center for Cybersecurity, even Carney himself during elections.
01:36:49.000 Carney has committed treason via secret Chinese policing and law enforcement MOU, illegal Chinese police stations in Vancouver, selling Vancouver to China via the Aboriginal Peoples on Drip.
01:37:00.000 Well, is he right?
01:37:01.000 So that's right.
01:37:02.000 I have no idea if he's right or not, but that's.
01:37:04.000 I was saying he was not maybe an influencer, but a commentator.
01:37:07.000 He had like 67,000 followers on Instagram.
01:37:10.000 Oh, and this could be why they're saying he's nuts.
01:37:13.000 Right, I guess.
01:37:14.000 Because he's.
01:37:15.000 He's uncovering some shit that's probably going on.
01:37:18.000 I was going to say, this is not exactly out of the mainstream to be.
01:37:22.000 Listen, the fucking mayor of Arcadia in California, they just found out was a Chinese spy.
01:37:28.000 The mayor of a city in California.
01:37:31.000 Well, just today there was more about Swalwell and Fang Fang, the Chinese spy.
01:37:38.000 The guy wanted to be governor, he's like shacked up with a spy.
01:37:40.000 I wanted to make the joke.
01:37:41.000 I was like, so the very first debate, the very first TV debate, You know, you're kind of getting ready, you think.
01:37:48.000 And I really wanted to make a sort of fang, fang, bang, bang.
01:37:53.000 No, fang, fang, gang, bang.
01:37:55.000 You know, it's an obvious joke, right?
01:37:58.000 So he admitted to physical relations.
01:38:00.000 Yeah, but he denied it for years, for years.
01:38:01.000 Yeah, for years.
01:38:02.000 All the time, denied it.
01:38:03.000 So just today he admitted it?
01:38:04.000 I think it's just in the news today.
01:38:05.000 I don't know what happened.
01:38:06.000 Well, was he trying to make a comeback?
01:38:08.000 No, no.
01:38:08.000 Yeah, no, no, no.
01:38:09.000 Bang the spy.
01:38:11.000 But anyway, I really wanted to make this joke about him, you know, the.
01:38:11.000 Whoopsies.
01:38:18.000 Fang Fang.
01:38:18.000 It's just so you can't resist it, right?
01:38:20.000 It's a funny name.
01:38:21.000 Exactly.
01:38:21.000 Fang Fang, bang, whatever.
01:38:23.000 Anyway, so, and then he didn't show up, and I think, well, he denied that it's, can I really say that?
01:38:29.000 You know, you got to be fair.
01:38:31.000 You got to try and be accurate.
01:38:32.000 Good for you.
01:38:33.000 But then he didn't show up to the debate because he claimed that there was, I don't know, he had some vote or whatever.
01:38:38.000 So I never got to debate him.
01:38:40.000 The idea that this kid in Canada is being brought into for mental health evaluation and in prison because he's uncovering that, that's not unprecedented.
01:38:53.000 That's believable.
01:38:54.000 I don't know if it's true.
01:38:55.000 He might also have been a little kooky.
01:39:00.000 Again, I don't know if the videos that I saw are real.
01:39:03.000 But the videos that I, again, especially considering what we're talking about now.
01:39:07.000 If you were trying to make someone look insane that was uncovering some real serious corruption with a foreign government, which is possible.
01:39:16.000 Of course, it's possible.
01:39:17.000 And also, it's America, right?
01:39:18.000 We're in a huge country.
01:39:19.000 It's like beautifully crazy in many ways.
01:39:22.000 Yes.
01:39:23.000 People can think what then, and they've got the internet.
01:39:25.000 And you get people will, you know, honestly, all the time, people are giving me things, you know, they shove things in my hand or an envelope, whatever.
01:39:34.000 And I opened it up.
01:39:35.000 Every single time.
01:39:36.000 Because half the time, it's something that's, you know, something conspiratorial that isn't right or doesn't seem right.
01:39:44.000 And other times, it's like really good ideas.
01:39:46.000 But the point is that they actually are useful or they'll make me think about something in a different way.
01:39:51.000 But the point is that, yes, there's lots of people out there with somewhat crazy ideas.
01:39:56.000 You can't lock them all up.
01:39:57.000 Well, it's not just that.
01:39:58.000 There's lots of real corruption.
01:40:00.000 Yes.
01:40:01.000 If this guy posts this, and has there been an investigation?
01:40:05.000 Do we know whether or not this is an act?
01:40:06.000 Has it been completely debunked?
01:40:08.000 Because if it has, oh, well then.
01:40:10.000 Maybe you're right.
01:40:11.000 Maybe he's crazy.
01:40:12.000 Or if it turns out that everything he's saying is true, maybe he's a slightly crazy person who's also uncovering the truth.
01:40:19.000 Exactly.
01:40:20.000 And sometimes it takes obsessive people.
01:40:22.000 That was the premise of that Mel Gibson movie.
01:40:23.000 Remember?
01:40:24.000 Yeah.
01:40:25.000 He was crazy, but he was actually right?
01:40:27.000 No, which one?
01:40:27.000 I think it was called Conspiracy Theory.
01:40:29.000 Yep.
01:40:29.000 Yep.
01:40:30.000 Yeah, was that with Julia Roberts?
01:40:32.000 Julia Roberts, yeah.
01:40:33.000 It was fun.
01:40:34.000 That sounds great.
01:40:34.000 Yeah.
01:40:35.000 He was like a nutty dude who was onto things.
01:40:35.000 I haven't seen it.
01:40:37.000 He's basically like Alex Jones.
01:40:40.000 That sounds really interesting.
01:40:41.000 I love that.
01:40:41.000 It was a good movie.
01:40:42.000 You know, for the time, a little dated.
01:40:44.000 You go watch it today, you'll be like, eh.
01:40:46.000 One of the things is I went on the road the whole time, like long drives.
01:40:50.000 It's California.
01:40:51.000 And so I find some of these, you know, every now and again you just want something, you know.
01:40:57.000 So there's a lot of movies, it turns out, that are big parts of American culture that I haven't seen.
01:41:03.000 We watched, what was it the other night?
01:41:06.000 Super Bad.
01:41:07.000 I'd never seen it.
01:41:08.000 I'd never seen it.
01:41:09.000 It's so good.
01:41:10.000 It's one of the best comedies of all time.
01:41:11.000 It's so good.
01:41:12.000 And I've never seen it.
01:41:14.000 Unfortunately, I tried watching with my kids when they were 10 and 12.
01:41:17.000 I'm like, here, sit down and watch this.
01:41:19.000 And we shut it off after three minutes.
01:41:20.000 Like, this is sorry.
01:41:22.000 It's so good.
01:41:22.000 I forgot.
01:41:23.000 Brilliant, right?
01:41:23.000 Yeah, I forgot.
01:41:24.000 I mean, it's not just like funny and a kind of slapstick with a bit of that, but it was just really clever.
01:41:30.000 The scene where the kids just sitting in class drawing dicks.
01:41:32.000 It's so funny.
01:41:36.000 It's so funny.
01:41:37.000 By the way, could not make that movie today.
01:41:39.000 And the people who made that movie would not make that movie today.
01:41:42.000 We were literally talking about it.
01:41:43.000 So, my friend Eric, who you just, he's on my team.
01:41:46.000 He's, um, You met him earlier.
01:41:46.000 We've become good friends.
01:41:49.000 Like, that's exactly what we were saying.
01:41:51.000 They couldn't make it.
01:41:52.000 They got captured.
01:41:54.000 That's the problem with being on the team of the left.
01:41:57.000 They got captured by an ideology that destroyed comedy in their world, right?
01:42:03.000 They cannot do that kind of comedy anymore.
01:42:06.000 Nobody believes that you support all the things these people are saying.
01:42:10.000 You're just showing a ridiculous human being who's saying some crazy shit and it makes you laugh.
01:42:16.000 It's not changing the fucking world.
01:42:18.000 It's not altering anybody's opinions, and it's not going to force people to do anything that they wouldn't have ordinarily done.
01:42:23.000 No good person is going to watch that movie and want to go out and do bad things.
01:42:27.000 That's not how it works.
01:42:28.000 It's just a piece of art.
01:42:29.000 It's just like, you know, Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff, okay?
01:42:33.000 It's a fucking piece of art.
01:42:34.000 It's a piece of art.
01:42:35.000 And it's a piece of art that we have fucked up.
01:42:38.000 It's particularly movies, because movies are attached to Hollywood.
01:42:42.000 And then stand up comedy, fortunately, has an out.
01:42:46.000 And because of the internet, we don't need Hollywood anymore.
01:42:49.000 So, but because of that, we now get labeled right wing.
01:42:54.000 Especially stand up comedy that's like not adherent to.
01:42:58.000 And I don't want to call it anti woke because that's silly.
01:43:01.000 Because it's not anti woke.
01:43:02.000 It's just comedy.
01:43:03.000 It's just like woke doesn't allow certain subjects.
01:43:08.000 It should be anti establishment.
01:43:10.000 And when the establishment is taken over by an ideology, it happens to be that.
01:43:13.000 But you go the other way when it's the people in power.
01:43:17.000 It's supposed to be against the people in power.
01:43:18.000 It's supposed to be what is funny.
01:43:21.000 Fair enough.
01:43:21.000 What is funny?
01:43:22.000 What is funny?
01:43:23.000 Across the board.
01:43:25.000 And as soon as you say, no, you can't make fun of this anymore.
01:43:28.000 Why?
01:43:29.000 Why?
01:43:30.000 It's a religion.
01:43:31.000 It's basically like it's blasphemy to make fun of whatever you decide to do.
01:43:35.000 It's weird.
01:43:35.000 It's weird.
01:43:36.000 Yeah.
01:43:37.000 And that killed that kind of movie.
01:43:40.000 Yeah.
01:43:41.000 Those fucking movies were everywhere.
01:43:41.000 Yeah.
01:43:43.000 The Hangover.
01:43:43.000 Yeah.
01:43:44.000 There was always a movie like that.
01:43:46.000 Fucking, there's so many of them.
01:43:48.000 And a lot of them, I haven't seen, we were just talking about it the other night.
01:43:51.000 Yeah.
01:43:52.000 The Ace Ventura Pet Detective, the whole premise was about a transgender woman.
01:43:57.000 And you find out she was transgender and everybody throws up.
01:44:00.000 Do you remember?
01:44:01.000 No, I haven't seen, I honestly haven't seen.
01:44:03.000 You never saw Ace Ventura, Pet Detective?
01:44:05.000 No.
01:44:07.000 I know, we've got to do a list for the road.
01:44:08.000 She's too busy watching Monty Hall over there.
01:44:11.000 Fucking Benny Hill reruns.
01:44:14.000 My favorite Benny Hill thing.
01:44:16.000 Benny Hill was like.
01:44:17.000 I'm not saying this, but I couldn't.
01:44:18.000 The first, there's someone, there's a friend of mine at Fox, she's called Kennedy, she's very fun.
01:44:23.000 And she used to always.
01:44:25.000 Do you remember Janet Yellen?
01:44:27.000 Yes.
01:44:28.000 She always called her Benny Hill.
01:44:30.000 And then the minute I saw that.
01:44:33.000 That I saw a picture of the next time, I just couldn't get it.
01:44:36.000 Kennedy was an MTV VJ.
01:44:39.000 And then she became a Republican talking head on Fox.
01:44:39.000 She's great.
01:44:43.000 I was like, that's nuts.
01:44:44.000 She's a real libertarian, though.
01:44:46.000 But isn't it interesting?
01:44:47.000 Yeah.
01:44:47.000 Like someone's like on MTV with like a girl with glasses on.
01:44:52.000 You're like, oh, progressive, for sure.
01:44:54.000 And then winds up on.
01:44:56.000 She's libertarian.
01:44:56.000 But she's cool.
01:44:57.000 She seems very smart.
01:44:59.000 She's great, very funny.
01:45:00.000 She does Freedom Fest.
01:45:03.000 She's like, that's a big part of that, the libertarian thing.
01:45:06.000 She's great.
01:45:06.000 Okay.
01:45:07.000 How'd she go from being a VJ?
01:45:09.000 Like, I don't know.
01:45:10.000 Here's the next fucking, you know.
01:45:12.000 She's from LA.
01:45:13.000 She's very young.
01:45:14.000 She's great.
01:45:16.000 She used to call Janet Yellen Betty Hill.
01:45:19.000 That's funny.
01:45:20.000 But I love, no, the comedy thing, like, that's another joy, actually.
01:45:24.000 So I used to really, so Eric's really into Louis C.K.
01:45:27.000 So I've, I'd seen a bit of him, obviously, but I've watched a lot now.
01:45:32.000 He's so great.
01:45:33.000 I mean, we've really enjoyed that.
01:45:34.000 Brilliant comedian.
01:45:35.000 Brilliant, brilliant.
01:45:36.000 And yeah, it did.
01:45:38.000 Some fucking ridiculous, weird shit, but the way they described it was so different than the actual acts themselves.
01:45:45.000 But also, his response to it was brilliant.
01:45:47.000 That show where he addressed it was so good.
01:45:50.000 He had a weird kink where he wanted people to watch him jerk off, and he would ask them.
01:45:55.000 And if they said yes, he would do it.
01:45:57.000 Look, I don't think you should do that.
01:46:00.000 I think it seems crazy to be standing in front of a couple of girls and jerking off in front of them, but I'm not him, okay?
01:46:06.000 And I also didn't say, if I said no, open the door, let me out.
01:46:09.000 And then you wouldn't let me out, that's a different story.
01:46:11.000 But that's not what anybody is alleging.
01:46:13.000 It's just kind of gross and weird.
01:46:16.000 And I think he would probably admit to that.
01:46:18.000 But, you know.
01:46:20.000 He did.
01:46:21.000 And he had a very funny, I thought it was brilliant.
01:46:23.000 I can't remember exactly, but the first big show he did after that, when he sort of returned from being.
01:46:30.000 His art, though, is like, you got to judge, like, what is he.
01:46:35.000 As long as he's not done what Bill Cosby did.
01:46:38.000 That's a completely different thing.
01:46:39.000 Yeah, it did seem that it was a kind of systematic, like, really machine like predatory thing that was just ongoing.
01:46:51.000 It was a weird kink.
01:46:52.000 Yeah.
01:46:52.000 He had a weird kink.
01:46:53.000 He wanted to jerk off in front of people, like, okay.
01:46:57.000 It's so look, I get that people would be upset, and if you don't want to watch this comedy anymore, I get that too.
01:47:04.000 Everybody has that's your prerogative.
01:47:04.000 That's fine.
01:47:07.000 But like the comedy itself is some of the best comedy that's ever been written.
01:47:11.000 It's exactly ever been done.
01:47:12.000 He's one of the best to ever do it.
01:47:12.000 Yeah.
01:47:14.000 I mean, if you have a top whatever group of comedians.
01:47:18.000 Is he in your kind of gang here?
01:47:20.000 How do you like?
01:47:21.000 Well, he's in New York, but he actually helped me design the club.
01:47:25.000 Okay, cool.
01:47:26.000 He came when it was bare bones, and we went over the club, and he gave me a bunch of great suggestions, and I implemented all of them.
01:47:34.000 The smaller rooms are named after the nuclear bombs that were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
01:47:40.000 So it's Fat Man and Little Boy are our rooms.
01:47:43.000 There's a reason for that.
01:47:45.000 The reason is actually that because it's the comedy mothership, it's a UFO based comedy club.
01:47:51.000 The UFOs really started showing up in America after the nuclear bomb.
01:47:55.000 So once the nuclear weapons program was implemented in 1945, The amount of UFO sightings went through the roof.
01:48:02.000 And the real big ones were like Roswell, New Mexico, which is 47.
01:48:05.000 So, right after the war, they started.
01:48:08.000 So, this is like part of UFO folklore.
01:48:10.000 So, that's why we did it.
01:48:12.000 That's why we named them after the nuclear, and not making light of people dying in horrific nuclear bombs.
01:48:17.000 So, he told me to make the stage smaller in the little room.
01:48:20.000 It was a great idea.
01:48:21.000 I was like, right.
01:48:22.000 Why is the stage so big?
01:48:23.000 It's a small room.
01:48:24.000 And then he also said, can you, it was already a low ceiling.
01:48:26.000 He's like, can you lower it more?
01:48:27.000 I'm like, we can lower it like right to the top of that door.
01:48:30.000 It's like, You should do that.
01:48:31.000 And he gave me some advice on sound deadening in the room and what to do and how to make the sound crystal clear and just great, awesome advice.
01:48:40.000 And the beautiful thing about that club is I took advice from every comedian that was in town.
01:48:46.000 I'd bring them there.
01:48:47.000 I'd go, tell me what you think.
01:48:48.000 What would you want?
01:48:49.000 Like, if you wanted to design a comedy club, I'll literally let you.
01:48:53.000 Like, just tell me what you think.
01:48:54.000 And we ran it through a vote.
01:48:56.000 So there's a whole group of us.
01:48:58.000 And it was like me and Brian Simpson and Ron White and Tony Hinchcliffe and all these guys that were.
01:49:03.000 Good friends of mine that we performed with all the time.
01:49:06.000 We all just sat around.
01:49:08.000 None of the ideas were like, I think we should do this.
01:49:11.000 I didn't do that with any of them.
01:49:12.000 I said, Tell me what you guys want to do.
01:49:14.000 And they were like, You should have this.
01:49:15.000 Okay, we'll do that.
01:49:17.000 We should have monitors in the green room.
01:49:17.000 Great.
01:49:18.000 We should see the guy on stage.
01:49:20.000 Okay, let's do that.
01:49:21.000 And everything anybody said, we did.
01:49:21.000 What else?
01:49:23.000 We should have free mental health services for all the employees.
01:49:30.000 So we did that.
01:49:31.000 So free availability for counseling, psychiatry.
01:49:34.000 We have that.
01:49:35.000 Or psychologists, they can all go to counselors.
01:49:38.000 So that's free.
01:49:39.000 Healthcare, take care of everything.
01:49:41.000 Give the comedians way more money than any other club does.
01:49:43.000 We did that.
01:49:44.000 We just like, what does everybody want?
01:49:47.000 It's the perfect club.
01:49:47.000 What does everybody want?
01:49:49.000 Let's do it and let's do it in a way where we're just trying to make the best thing possible.
01:49:53.000 We're not doing it like, let's make the most money.
01:49:55.000 We're just trying to not lose money.
01:49:57.000 So let's just do it that way.
01:49:58.000 And it worked.
01:49:59.000 And it worked because of people like Louis C.K. and all these people that came by and gave us advice and told us what they think.
01:50:08.000 Fantastic.
01:50:09.000 So, yeah, so Louis's great.
01:50:10.000 I love him.
01:50:11.000 He's a fucking really smart guy.
01:50:12.000 But, like a lot of smart guys, he's fucking weird.
01:50:15.000 You know, a lot of people.
01:50:16.000 I think that about these AI people.
01:50:17.000 You want to be a great comedian, you have to be a fucking weirdo.
01:50:21.000 You know, they're all just weird in different ways.
01:50:23.000 Chappelle's weird in his way.
01:50:25.000 You know, Chris Rock's weird in his way.
01:50:27.000 Hinchcliffe's weird in his way.
01:50:28.000 They're all weird.
01:50:29.000 Shane's weird.
01:50:30.000 It's an incredible thing to do, honestly.
01:50:30.000 Everyone's weird.
01:50:33.000 Just, it's like really, in a tiny way, I'm not even comparing it, but I'm comparing this in terms of what I'm doing, which is you've got to go there and you've got, I don't know, I just did a few, just in the last few days, you've got hundreds of people and you've got to entertain them.
01:50:51.000 Now, I'm mainly talking about politics, which is much easier because you've got.
01:50:57.000 You know, material that's just obvious and out there, and it's put it, but it's the order, and you've got to keep them entertained.
01:51:04.000 You can't be boring, you can't like, and it's you know, you've got to give a good show, yes.
01:51:08.000 And so, the thought of doing that and being funny for all of it instead of what I do, which is throw in the odd joke, you know, political joke or something or self deprecating joke, you know, right?
01:51:23.000 But that's just that's nothing, but it's you're not focusing on that.
01:51:27.000 If you focus on that, you could do it.
01:51:28.000 No, but I'm just saying, I now really appreciate how hard it is.
01:51:33.000 Just the.
01:51:34.000 It is and it isn't.
01:51:35.000 Joey Diaz has the greatest saying.
01:51:37.000 He goes, It's the fucking hardest, easiest thing you'll ever do.
01:51:40.000 Because when you're flowing, it's easy.
01:51:40.000 Okay.
01:51:43.000 You know, when you're up there and you're killing, it's so easy.
01:51:46.000 It's hard constructing the material.
01:51:49.000 Well, I was going to say, a lot of preparation.
01:51:51.000 There's a lot of preparation and there's a lot of time you have to spend alone thinking.
01:51:56.000 And then you have to spend a lot of time bullshitting with your friends.
01:51:58.000 Because sometimes, like the green room conversations, Some of us, like Brian Simpson, said something the other day, and we're like, Write that down.
01:52:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:52:05.000 Write that down.
01:52:06.000 And force each other, like, Right, dude, that's a bit.
01:52:06.000 That's a bit.
01:52:08.000 That's 100% a bit.
01:52:09.000 And he started doing it on stage, and it's killing.
01:52:12.000 Like, that happens too.
01:52:13.000 And it's like the camaraderie and the fun of being together.
01:52:17.000 Like, it brews comedy.
01:52:18.000 Yeah.
01:52:19.000 But you also need time in front of the fucking computer or the notebook.
01:52:22.000 You need to be sitting there going over your stuff.
01:52:24.000 If you don't do that, you're not going to come up with new material.
01:52:26.000 And then you have to try it out.
01:52:28.000 And you have to be willing to, like, trot it out there.
01:52:31.000 You have this idea that's only existed in your head.
01:52:34.000 And you're kind of.
01:52:34.000 Yeah.
01:52:35.000 Convinced that there's something there, but you're not totally sure.
01:52:38.000 You're like, What do you think about this?
01:52:40.000 and you just throw it out there.
01:52:42.000 Sometimes it's great, and it's like 50 50.
01:52:45.000 Sometimes it's dog shit.
01:52:46.000 And by it's 50 50 to what I bring to the stage, whether it's even got life, but writing it down, it's like not even it's like you know, it's like the Canadian healthcare system for made.
01:52:59.000 It's like what one out of 20, one out of 20 is any good.
01:53:03.000 I mean, it's just really no, I think it's well, I totally appreciate.
01:53:09.000 What you're saying, but it's very, I mean, to me, it seems the ultimate.
01:53:14.000 You're just putting yourself out there.
01:53:15.000 You're definitely putting yourself out there.
01:53:17.000 But you're also doing it this way, too.
01:53:19.000 Like when you're having conversations, maybe you're putting yourself out there even more because you're actually putting out your opinions, and some of them you had no idea you were going to discuss.
01:53:29.000 Right.
01:53:30.000 So you're just trotting it out there, thinking out loud in front of millions of people, like we're doing right now.
01:53:36.000 When you're doing stand up, like I know these, by the time anyone sees me performing, Forum at a club where they're paying money, most of those bits I've been doing.
01:53:47.000 So I've been like, I'm just trying to add to them and hone them and say them the right way and move the order around.
01:53:54.000 That's why I love about it because I really do love it.
01:53:57.000 And that's why I've really enjoyed, like I said, Eric really into it.
01:54:01.000 And he's shown me a lot of comedians I didn't know about.
01:54:04.000 And I just, I love words and language anyway.
01:54:08.000 You know, I've written, but in completely different, I've written books and whatever, TV scripts when I did my show, that kind of thing.
01:54:14.000 So I really appreciate language.
01:54:16.000 And I love just how changing the order of a word or whatever can just make something work or not work.
01:54:24.000 Oh, yeah.
01:54:24.000 It's brilliant.
01:54:25.000 Changing the order of a word, changing the way you do it.
01:54:25.000 I love that.
01:54:28.000 Sometimes you do a joke, like Louis used to do that, where he would like reverse a joke, like turn it around, and then maybe he would like take it and do his best joke and open with it so that his jokes afterwards had to get better to follow his best joke.
01:54:43.000 Yeah, it's a constant little fucking laboratory up there, and you need the audience.
01:54:48.000 Yes.
01:54:48.000 In order to find the life to whatever the hell you're doing.
01:54:51.000 Can you see their faces?
01:54:53.000 Like, can you see, or the light's too much in your face?
01:54:56.000 You can see most of the first few rows.
01:54:56.000 Can you see?
01:54:59.000 Right.
01:55:00.000 Because that's important, must be for them.
01:55:01.000 Yeah.
01:55:01.000 It helps.
01:55:02.000 It definitely helps.
01:55:03.000 It's not just listening to the volume of laughs, is it?
01:55:06.000 Like, what is it?
01:55:09.000 There's both things, but obviously they're there to have a good time.
01:55:13.000 But my job's easier because I'm going on after they're already laughing, right?
01:55:18.000 So there's been a few people on before me.
01:55:20.000 Everybody's having a good time.
01:55:21.000 And then.
01:55:23.000 You're basically just connecting with them.
01:55:25.000 You know, you find them, what's up?
01:55:27.000 How are you?
01:55:28.000 You like let them get comfortable.
01:55:30.000 You connect with them.
01:55:32.000 And then you're just doing the material.
01:55:33.000 You're just finding the reality.
01:55:35.000 You have to be like, whatever you're saying, you have to be 100% thinking about that thing only.
01:55:41.000 Yes.
01:55:41.000 You can't be thinking, and then I'm going to say it like that.
01:55:44.000 No, you have to be thinking about the thing.
01:55:45.000 Yeah.
01:55:46.000 And that's it.
01:55:47.000 That's the primary thought.
01:55:48.000 You know the pacing of it, you know what's coming next, but you don't think about what's coming next.
01:55:52.000 You think about the thing.
01:55:54.000 That's where preparation is important.
01:55:55.000 You have to make sure that you have a set list, an order, but you also have to be flexible because there's going to be moments where you want to dive out of that set order and something might happen in the audience or something might come up and you have another thing, another take, and you're like, this would go better right here, so I'll shove this in here.
01:56:11.000 And then you have to remember your order and go, I didn't do this, I'll put that later.
01:56:14.000 It's so fun.
01:56:16.000 It's not the same, but there's a similarity because I do all these things and you've got bits really, which is my thing on high speed rail.
01:56:25.000 And you know, I and sometimes, and there's a long version of it and a short version of it.
01:56:30.000 Yeah, it's a bit.
01:56:31.000 And like, and then suddenly you'll find yourself doing it, even though I hadn't intended to.
01:56:36.000 Right.
01:56:37.000 And then, oh, shit, that's like really long, and I've got to finish.
01:56:40.000 Like, what am I going to cut?
01:56:41.000 So it's very sort of, I mean, it's not the same, but it's similar.
01:56:45.000 It's similar.
01:56:46.000 And I definitely find Trump does bits.
01:56:49.000 Oh, yeah.
01:56:50.000 And he, I mean, it goes on for so long.
01:56:51.000 I've never done anything that long, but.
01:56:53.000 Remember when he just did this impromptu bit about Biden losing himself on stage, just wandering around, not knowing where he was?
01:56:59.000 It's like he's doing stand up, like everyone's laughing.
01:57:01.000 Exactly, exactly.
01:57:03.000 But I find it much better.
01:57:05.000 I much prefer it when you're closer to the people, like physically, when you're not on some stage miles away, you know, that kind of thing.
01:57:14.000 Yeah, comedy club's the way to do it.
01:57:15.000 That's the real way.
01:57:16.000 However, there's something very intimate about doing an arena in the round.
01:57:23.000 Okay.
01:57:24.000 So I've done a bunch of those where you're standing on a circular stage in the center of the people.
01:57:30.000 And what's intimate about that is all the people over here are looking at all the people over here.
01:57:34.000 Everybody sees each other.
01:57:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:57:36.000 Interesting.
01:57:36.000 You see each other.
01:57:37.000 It's the right way to do it.
01:57:38.000 Because that way, everybody's seeing everybody else having fun.
01:57:42.000 And they're a lot closer than you think they are.
01:57:44.000 They're all right there.
01:57:45.000 There's a lot of them.
01:57:47.000 But the comedy sprays out to the outer edges.
01:57:51.000 But the center hive all around the stage, which is thousands of people in a 16,000 seat arena, you're looking in the eyes of 6,000 people plus.
01:58:02.000 And it's like they're all seeing each other.
01:58:03.000 It's very intimate, oddly.
01:58:06.000 Great.
01:58:07.000 It's fun as opposed to a big arena when you're standing on a very high stage and the people are all out there.
01:58:15.000 That feels crazy.
01:58:17.000 That feels very detached.
01:58:19.000 That's not my favorite.
01:58:20.000 That's my least favorite an arena where it's just a flat stage and you're not surrounded by them.
01:58:27.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:58:30.000 It feels like you're just delivering something rather than connecting.
01:58:34.000 But a theater can be pretty intimate too.
01:58:34.000 Exactly.
01:58:37.000 Especially when you're used to doing arenas.
01:58:40.000 If I do a 3,000 seat theater, it's kind of intimate.
01:58:44.000 It's all what you're comfortable with too.
01:58:46.000 That's a part of it too.
01:58:46.000 It's like, are you comfortable with all these people staring at you?
01:58:50.000 Well, I never, you see, that's the weird thing.
01:58:52.000 I would never have, suddenly I'm doing it, I've never done it before.
01:58:56.000 And suddenly you have all these, you know, and it's amazing.
01:58:56.000 Right.
01:58:59.000 I mean, I love the response, but it is weird because I've gone from nothing to this.
01:59:05.000 And you go in a room, there's like hundreds of people like cheering.
01:59:07.000 What's the biggest crowd you've had to speak in front of?
01:59:10.000 Probably, well, probably when I did Megan Kelly's show, when Megan Kelly was here.
01:59:15.000 Yeah.
01:59:15.000 Not here in California.
01:59:16.000 And I did a spot there.
01:59:21.000 I did the announcement.
01:59:22.000 Bakersfield.
01:59:23.000 It was in an arena in Bakersfield.
01:59:25.000 The announcement for the UFC weigh ins.
01:59:28.000 So I emceed the weigh ins at the ellipse on the White House.
01:59:34.000 So it was 80,000 people.
01:59:34.000 Oh.
01:59:36.000 That was fucking nuts.
01:59:38.000 That was the most people I've ever talked to.
01:59:41.000 And that was a very different way of talking because all I'm doing is reading people's names and their official weight.
01:59:41.000 Right.
01:59:47.000 It's very easy.
01:59:48.000 Yeah.
01:59:48.000 You know, it's just hyping it up, getting everybody pumped up.
01:59:51.000 You know, you know, like, ladies and gentlemen, Ilya Topurian.
01:59:51.000 Yeah.
01:59:55.000 And he comes out and everybody goes crazy.
01:59:56.000 It's easy, but it's the vibe, the feeling of 80,000 people is fucking nuts.
02:00:01.000 It's a weird feeling.
02:00:01.000 Yeah.
02:00:03.000 You know, Shane Gillis, my buddy, just did stand up.
02:00:05.000 I heard you said that.
02:00:06.000 He sold 76,000 stores.
02:00:08.000 Yeah.
02:00:08.000 In Philadelphia, right?
02:00:09.000 Yeah.
02:00:09.000 Fill a fucking football stadium.
02:00:13.000 That had to be insane.
02:00:15.000 Well, you could do that easy if you wanted to.
02:00:17.000 It's, it's, you'd get the people.
02:00:18.000 It's a crazy thing to do.
02:00:20.000 I don't know if I could do that easy.
02:00:21.000 It's not easy.
02:00:22.000 He broke the world record.
02:00:23.000 And Shane's huge.
02:00:23.000 I like it.
02:00:25.000 And he's really funny.
02:00:26.000 He's like one of the funniest guys in the world.
02:00:27.000 Yeah, that's a good example.
02:00:28.000 I'd never seen him before.
02:00:29.000 Maybe I'd get him to come down tonight.
02:00:30.000 I don't know if he's there.
02:00:31.000 He's in town.
02:00:32.000 He's in town.
02:00:32.000 I've never been able to get him.
02:00:34.000 That was the first thing I saw.
02:00:35.000 Have you seen his bit about George Washington's museum?
02:00:35.000 I saw so many good bits.
02:00:38.000 I don't think so.
02:00:39.000 Oh, my God.
02:00:40.000 It's one of my.
02:00:41.000 I would request it from him all the time.
02:00:43.000 Like, please do that bit.
02:00:45.000 It's so funny about George Washington's false teeth being made out of lead.
02:00:50.000 It's such a crazy bit.
02:00:52.000 It's so good.
02:00:53.000 He's a great comedian.
02:00:55.000 And that's all he cares about, that's what he loves.
02:00:55.000 Yeah.
02:00:58.000 And he's like all in and just an awesome guy, too.
02:01:01.000 When you're around him, he's just so fun, and like everyone always smiles.
02:01:06.000 You're around him, he's like he's contagious, you know, he's a contagious party.
02:01:11.000 Great, fun guy.
02:01:12.000 But like, we're really lucky that there's a lot of those guys here now, you know.
02:01:16.000 This is like this is a giant hive of them now.
02:01:19.000 Well, you've built that, well, we all did, yeah, you know, we all came.
02:01:22.000 No, I hear what you're saying that they contributed, but well, we are they had to be here for me to be able to do it.
02:01:28.000 This is not a thing that I could have ever done.
02:01:30.000 And said, hey, everybody move here now.
02:01:33.000 It would have never worked.
02:01:33.000 They had to already be here.
02:01:35.000 Everybody moved here before I even had a club.
02:01:37.000 A lot of them did.
02:01:38.000 Okay.
02:01:39.000 Yeah, like Segura moved here before I had a club.
02:01:41.000 Duncan moved.
02:01:42.000 It was like a pandemic thing.
02:01:43.000 Yes.
02:01:43.000 Like getting out of places was ridiculous.
02:01:46.000 Yeah, getting out of places and going to a place where you can actually perform.
02:01:50.000 We're all addicts.
02:01:51.000 Stand up comedy is a very, very addictive thing.
02:01:54.000 And if there's a place where you can go, where you can do it, and your friends already live there, and for me, it was Ron White.
02:02:00.000 Mm hmm.
02:02:00.000 And it was also, there's a thing about the freeness of this city, like the freeness of Texas, the freedom that you had here to be able to go to a restaurant, your businesses could stay open.
02:02:13.000 They didn't put the same kind of restrictions.
02:02:15.000 They had a small lockdown for a short amount of time, and they went, okay, let's get back to work.
02:02:20.000 And they did.
02:02:21.000 And California's like, we're going to die.
02:02:23.000 And they fucking.
02:02:25.000 I see them still driving around their cars with the muskets.
02:02:28.000 I know.
02:02:28.000 It's so crazy.
02:02:30.000 I remember, it's so funny thinking about, because all this, I was reminded of all this because of the Fauci stuff the other day.
02:02:35.000 Yeah, the Fauci stuff.
02:02:36.000 That's wild.
02:02:37.000 Because I was really, honestly, I mean, I did this show on Fox News.
02:02:41.000 I would never say I'm a journalist, right?
02:02:44.000 Ever.
02:02:45.000 It was an opinion show.
02:02:46.000 I just said what I thought.
02:02:48.000 But I did do some, like one piece of journalism, like actual journalism, which is the Fauci stuff.
02:02:55.000 It's infuriating, you know, the origin of the virus.
02:02:57.000 I really did, you know, lay that all out in a way that no one else did because I had these people I knew at Stanford.
02:03:03.000 I taught at Stanford.
02:03:04.000 So a lot of that information about Fauci and the origin and all of that I had.
02:03:11.000 And people helped me piece it together.
02:03:13.000 And it's just infuriating that he's still skating.
02:03:17.000 Well, the most infuriating to me thing was that he knew about the miscarriages.
02:03:22.000 During the first trimester, he knew about that and he was still promoting it for pregnant women.
02:03:27.000 Like, how many women listened to him and got vaccinated and then had a miscarriage?
02:03:32.000 I mean, we don't even know what the numbers are, right?
02:03:34.000 Because those are never reported as vaccine injuries.
02:03:37.000 We have no idea.
02:03:38.000 It's just, I mean, I was listening to who did you have on the other week?
02:03:41.000 That lady who wrote the book, you got into it with her.
02:03:44.000 She had a book you're talking about, I can't remember.
02:03:47.000 She's like an investigative.
02:03:49.000 Annie Jacobson?
02:03:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:03:51.000 About the germ warfare, about biological warfare.
02:03:55.000 So I was just listening to that and then.
02:03:57.000 We didn't really get into it.
02:03:59.000 We didn't argue.
02:04:00.000 Just on the origins and the gain of function and all of that.
02:04:03.000 Oh.
02:04:04.000 Well, she just probably was trying to be politically correct and probably not.
02:04:08.000 Well, anyway.
02:04:08.000 She's still trying to sell books or something.
02:04:10.000 All I remember thinking is that it's still not, I don't think, understood how directly Fauci was implicated.
02:04:10.000 I don't know.
02:04:21.000 Like, it's still, you hear this language of, oh, he funded the gain of function.
02:04:29.000 No, he pushed it.
02:04:30.000 This was his.
02:04:31.000 Thing, yeah, he really was the main global champion of gain of function.
02:04:37.000 Not only that, he enforced the narrative that this was not a lab leak and that a lab talking about it as a lab leak was racist.
02:04:45.000 Yes, he did the thing that ever I remember when I first laid that out, and it was you know, it's still on the wit on my Wikipedia.
02:04:54.000 I pushed the conspiracy theory that you know Fauci did the virus, but he did the that.
02:05:00.000 I always try and show people like when they say, Well, why would he do something like that?
02:05:04.000 He was really.
02:05:06.000 The main advocate.
02:05:07.000 There's a piece he wrote.
02:05:09.000 I always start with this, which is, I think it's December 2011, because gain of function had been around a few years.
02:05:17.000 They started with the ferrets or whatever, and they had this new technique, Ralph Barrick, and all of that.
02:05:23.000 And then it became very controversial in the scientific community.
02:05:27.000 You had a whole bunch of scientists saying, This is crazy.
02:05:31.000 This is going to lead to a pandemic.
02:05:33.000 You have people saying that.
02:05:34.000 And Fauci argued back, and he wrote this piece.
02:05:37.000 At the end of 2011, with the other guy, Francis Collins, who ran the NIH, saying that engineering, I think it's almost an exact quote, engineering a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory is a risk worth taking.
02:05:52.000 He wrote that.
02:05:53.000 Like, he was pushing this stuff.
02:05:56.000 And, like, the thing that everyone, it was his initiative.
02:06:01.000 It wasn't that he, like, passively funded this thing that some other minions were doing.
02:06:07.000 This was his big thing.
02:06:09.000 Yeah.
02:06:09.000 It's just outrageous that it hasn't been.
02:06:11.000 And he broke the rules.
02:06:12.000 That's the other part that people forget.
02:06:15.000 That Obama in 2014 put a moratorium on it, which included stuff that was already in train, which included the project that led to COVID.
02:06:25.000 And then again, people often say, well, Trump lifted the moratorium.
02:06:30.000 He did, but he put back a new thing, which was called the potential pandemic pathogens thing protocol, which said that when you renew a project, it should go to independent review.
02:06:42.000 He broke that as well.
02:06:43.000 So he broke the rules to push this.
02:06:45.000 And he's like, still not really had to pay any price for it.
02:06:49.000 Unless you say his reputation.
02:06:51.000 Well, the reputation, but he's also so old that he's not working anymore anyway.
02:06:54.000 But the thing about it was that pardon that gave him a pardon for crimes that he had not been convicted for, which had never happened before.
02:07:02.000 A preemptive pardon and also for 10 whole years for everything he did.
02:07:07.000 He could have been eating babies for 10 years and like, no, pardon.
02:07:11.000 And then when you have a pardon, you're not supposed to be able to plead the fifth.
02:07:11.000 Fine.
02:07:16.000 And yet he pleads the fifth.
02:07:18.000 With everything, including the color of his fucking tie.
02:07:20.000 It's just disgusting.
02:07:22.000 He's a strange guy.
02:07:23.000 And the fact that he was a hero really shows how sick people were in 2020 looking for some sort of a solution.
02:07:30.000 But it was a.
02:07:30.000 But they didn't know his history.
02:07:33.000 They didn't know what he did during the AIDS crisis.
02:07:35.000 He's a scary person.
02:07:37.000 And the arrogance of it.
02:07:37.000 Yeah.
02:07:39.000 And the thing that I'm also really get really pissed off about still is when you hear the conversation around this, going back now to the lockdowns and all of that and the school closures that were such a disaster, businesses, churches.
02:07:53.000 And people say, well, we didn't really know and it was early and we were just being.
02:07:58.000 We did know.
02:07:59.000 It's not true.
02:08:00.000 I did a piece March 2020, like right.
02:08:04.000 It was before the end of 15 days to slow the spread, right at the beginning, because I got to know through Stanford, Jay Bhattacharya, John Ioannidis, all these guys that were speaking out.
02:08:15.000 They did a blood, whatever you call it, seroprevalence thing in Santa Clara County where this whole thing started, proving everything that we now knew.
02:08:24.000 Including what Fauci, now we know from his diary, knew as well.
02:08:30.000 Those Santa Clara County, is this the two doctors that they went public with this and then they lost their license?
02:08:38.000 No, this is different.
02:08:38.000 This is Jay and John Ioannidis.
02:08:42.000 They were the.
02:08:43.000 So Ioannidis.
02:08:44.000 I know about Jay, and the crazy thing about him was that he was one of the people that was kicked off of Twitter, correct?
02:08:51.000 Yes.
02:08:52.000 Yeah.
02:08:52.000 Which is.
02:08:53.000 And worse than that, kicked out, really persecuted by Stanford.
02:08:58.000 They need to be held accountable.
02:08:59.000 That was a crazy thing.
02:09:00.000 So, the first lockdown in the country was Santa Clara County, in one of the Bay Area counties.
02:09:07.000 Then, the next day, the other Bay Area counties did it.
02:09:10.000 And then, after that, Gavin did statewide.
02:09:12.000 That's where it started.
02:09:13.000 And the woman who pushed it was the public health director, I haven't talked about this for ages, the public health director or whatever of Santa Clara County, Sarah Cody.
02:09:23.000 And she was married to the head of Stanford Medicine.
02:09:28.000 And Jay spoke out against.
02:09:30.000 What was going on with actual data?
02:09:32.000 They did a study of what was happening in the community that proved that the case fatality rate was far lower than what they're saying.
02:09:42.000 Well, it was also in the leaked emails.
02:09:44.000 All of this.
02:09:45.000 He was aware that it was far lower and he was still promoting it.
02:09:48.000 Exactly.
02:09:49.000 But the point is that this is again corruption because he was speaking out against the lockdowns that were pushed by this woman, Sarah Cody, her husband, who was head of Stanford Medicine.
02:10:01.000 Persecuted Jay.
02:10:02.000 He was treated so badly.
02:10:04.000 They suspended him.
02:10:05.000 They accused him of having some bullshit investigation into him.
02:10:10.000 Outrageous.
02:10:12.000 No one's ever done anything about that, as far as I can tell.
02:10:14.000 Stanford.
02:10:15.000 No, it's creepy to watch that top down power in action when you know that they're lying.
02:10:22.000 And when you're seeing these text messages and emails.
02:10:25.000 Yeah.
02:10:26.000 The Fauci thing is very creepy.
02:10:28.000 It just shows you why he was pushing for that pardon.
02:10:31.000 But then there's the question of whether or not that pardon's even legitimate because it's all auto pen stuff.
02:10:35.000 Yeah.
02:10:36.000 And Biden was out of his fucking mind.
02:10:37.000 I know.
02:10:38.000 But the thing I always think is also this.
02:10:42.000 The state level, it's a federal pardon.
02:10:45.000 Right.
02:10:45.000 So states are going to, but then there's this immunity if you're doing stuff in your public role, you can't be sued for that or something.
02:10:53.000 I don't know.
02:10:55.000 Well, I mean, he lives in hell.
02:10:57.000 I mean, he knows, but I think he's a bit of a sociopath.
02:11:00.000 I think there's something about him.
02:11:02.000 Like when he was prescribing people AZT for AIDS, he's a doctor.
02:11:06.000 He's well aware that AZT was pulled as a cancer medication because it was killing people quicker than cancer.
02:11:12.000 They were using it as chemotherapy, and people were dying faster.
02:11:15.000 And so they already had this FDA approved drug.
02:11:18.000 And so this new gay cancer, I mean, they literally were calling it the gay cancer at first.
02:11:23.000 They just started giving it to them.
02:11:24.000 Like, well, we have a medication for it.
02:11:26.000 And Fauci's on record saying the reason why we prescribe AZT is because it's the only medicine that's both safe and effective.
02:11:35.000 Effective at what?
02:11:36.000 Effective at killing asymptomatic people?
02:11:38.000 They were also using the same playbook that they used during COVID by using these testing methods that had an enormous amount of false positives.
02:11:47.000 Like, Kerry Mullis himself was.
02:11:49.000 There's a video of him.
02:11:50.000 He's the guy who invented PCR testing.
02:11:52.000 He's talking about Fauci.
02:11:53.000 Fauci doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
02:11:55.000 He's like, he's a bureaucrat.
02:11:57.000 The guy's full of shit.
02:11:58.000 He doesn't know that you should never use a PCR to determine whether or not someone is ill.
02:12:03.000 He's like, it's not how it works because if you ramp up the cycles enough, you could find anything.
02:12:07.000 And that's what they did during COVID.
02:12:08.000 They found like it's 80 something percent false positives.
02:12:11.000 Fortunately, a lot of those people weren't forced to take AZT.
02:12:15.000 But there's a lot of people that turned positive for HIV that probably didn't have it at all.
02:12:19.000 They gave them AZT and they were fucking dead.
02:12:22.000 And this is the villain in the Dowers Buyers Club, that movie with Matthew McConaughey.
02:12:27.000 That's all about people who have needs seeking alternative treatments and being denied them because he was trying to find a vaccine for it, even back then.
02:12:37.000 They were testing the vaccine for it on fucking foster kids and killing them in New York.
02:12:42.000 It's all in RFK Jr.'s book.
02:12:46.000 And again, if his book's lies, how come he hasn't been sued?
02:12:51.000 It's really amazing how they're able to get away with stuff that's truly evil.
02:13:00.000 Truly evil.
02:13:01.000 Yeah.
02:13:02.000 I mean, testing the AIDS vaccine on foster kids is crazy.
02:13:08.000 And them dying?
02:13:10.000 But there's just.
02:13:10.000 It's crazy.
02:13:12.000 The ACT thing is crazy.
02:13:13.000 I don't know how, you know, what determines, you know, when the sort of. the media.
02:13:23.000 Mindset towards something or whatever that means that this story gets attention and massive.
02:13:31.000 Oh, it's really simple.
02:13:32.000 It's really simple.
02:13:34.000 Pharmaceutical drug commercials.
02:13:36.000 All that would change if they're not allowed to advertise.
02:13:39.000 We're one of two countries in the fucking world that allow pharmaceutical drugs to advertise on television.
02:13:44.000 One of them is New Zealand and they're far more restrictive than us.
02:13:47.000 And because of that, look, you have ads that you see that are playing on CNN that are not even for a drug that's commonly used.
02:13:56.000 For some weird condition that a bunch of people have.
02:13:58.000 But they're trying to persuade you you've got the condition.
02:14:01.000 What they're really doing is not selling drugs.
02:14:03.000 What they're really doing is making sure that CNN does never talk shit about the pharmaceutical drug companies and doesn't do any stories on the adverse side effects and doesn't do any stories about how many of them get pulled by the FDA that initially get approved and they find such horrific side effects, they have to pull them because it's a large percentage.
02:14:21.000 It's fucking nuts, man.
02:14:23.000 And it's who was it that brought it up that was explaining how, you know, he had figured out a long time ago that the reason why they spend so much money on advertising is not because they're trying to sell drugs.
02:14:35.000 They're trying to buy these networks.
02:14:37.000 That's interesting.
02:14:38.000 What makes sense?
02:14:39.000 It's an enormous part of their ad budget, right?
02:14:41.000 And they spend so much money on television.
02:14:43.000 And who the fuck is watching CNN at this stage of the game?
02:14:47.000 You know, what are their numbers?
02:14:49.000 Their numbers are pretty piss poor.
02:14:50.000 For the amount of money that these drug companies are spending.
02:14:50.000 They are.
02:14:53.000 And then you see so many ads, so many for this.
02:14:58.000 And everyone's always at a barbecue.
02:15:00.000 They're always having fun.
02:15:03.000 They're having fun.
02:15:04.000 And like, there was a brilliant parody.
02:15:07.000 That Nicole Shanahan did when she was with Bobby running.
02:15:13.000 She did a brilliant one for TDS.
02:15:15.000 Do you suffer from TDS?
02:15:16.000 Trump Derangement Syndrome.
02:15:17.000 She did it like a pharma ad.
02:15:19.000 It was really, really great.
02:15:19.000 Oh, that's funny.
02:15:21.000 That's so crazy.
02:15:22.000 But the thing I was thinking of when you like the, you know, when you got really dark human consequences, so like, you know, obviously I'm focused on it because he's my opponent, but the story of Becerra and the kids, the migrant kids, is a story.
02:15:37.000 I bring it up to people, and a lot of people have never heard about it.
02:15:40.000 Like, literally, no idea.
02:15:42.000 What is the story?
02:15:43.000 When he was Bobby's job, and Bobby County's job, HHS secretary.
02:15:50.000 And you had it was during the four years you had the open border.
02:15:53.000 And the way it works is that millions of people come across the open border.
02:15:58.000 We don't know exactly how many, but the unaccompanied kids are the responsibility of HHS.
02:16:05.000 That's how the system works.
02:16:06.000 So he was responsible for them.
02:16:09.000 And the total number we know because it's recorded 479,000.
02:16:14.000 Kids.
02:16:14.000 Unaccompanied.
02:16:15.000 Unaccompanied.
02:16:16.000 Kids without parents.
02:16:17.000 It's an amazing number in the four years of the Biden administration.
02:16:21.000 All of those kids were Javier Becerra's responsibility.
02:16:27.000 So they were overwhelmed.
02:16:28.000 They set up these camps.
02:16:30.000 Do you not know any of this?
02:16:31.000 Yeah, just keep it.
02:16:31.000 Have you heard?
02:16:32.000 It's okay.
02:16:32.000 I know it's fine.
02:16:33.000 They have these camps they set up to process the kids in Florida, Texas.
02:16:38.000 There were three in California.
02:16:40.000 And the point was to try and get the kids to a safe sponsor, relative, someone who'd look after them.
02:16:47.000 And They had so many, they were overwhelmed.
02:16:51.000 And there's really bad stuff going on in the camps.
02:16:53.000 There were reports of sexual abuse.
02:16:55.000 The older kids, you know, some of the older kids were like, you know, 17 year old, rough, you know, some were gang members, whatever.
02:17:03.000 So there was all this shit going on in the camps sexual abuse, physical abuse.
02:17:07.000 It was bad.
02:17:08.000 And it was like pictures of, you know, like we went to one in Pomona, one of the exhibition halls, like 150 kids on cots.
02:17:17.000 It was bad.
02:17:18.000 And so Becerra.
02:17:20.000 Wants these kids out because it looks bad.
02:17:22.000 And they'd gone on and on about kids in cages with Trump.
02:17:27.000 And so he basically, we've now got these whistleblowers coming forward.
02:17:30.000 And the New York Times reported it.
02:17:32.000 The New York Times broke this story, but it's just basically not gone anywhere.
02:17:37.000 They did it in 2023.
02:17:40.000 He dismantled the vetting that was supposed to put the kids with a safe place.
02:17:45.000 And so they lost track of thousands of kids and many.
02:17:51.000 Went to child sex traffickers, slave labor, child labor traffickers, just horrific stories.
02:17:58.000 You had.
02:17:59.000 And what was the rationale for.
02:18:02.000 Because they weren't moving them out of the camps quickly enough.
02:18:07.000 So we had a whistleblower come to us because these people said, How can he be governor?
02:18:13.000 Who said, We were supposed to connect the kids with the responsible adult, check their identity, ID checks, home visits, all this.
02:18:24.000 But the instruction was, It's going too slowly.
02:18:27.000 We've got to get the kids out.
02:18:29.000 She said, Speed over safety.
02:18:31.000 And so when they raised flags about it, like 200 kids.
02:18:37.000 Sent to an address that turned out to be a container lot, like not a real address, it's just a front for traffickers.
02:18:45.000 A kid sent to a woman who was wanted by Interpol, like a gang member, like just crazy.
02:18:53.000 So when they raised those stories, they were fired.
02:18:56.000 Like it's really terrible what happened.
02:18:59.000 And still, I mean, HHS just published some, because they were still responsible, numbers from, I think it was two weeks ago, that there's 330,000 that they're still missing.
02:19:11.000 They don't know where they are.
02:19:12.000 40 kids died.
02:19:13.000 Like, it's really bad.
02:19:15.000 And yet, it's like Fauci's like, he's the candidate for governor.
02:19:20.000 No one's really calling him out on it.
02:19:24.000 It's amazing to me.
02:19:28.000 It's really bad, Joe.
02:19:29.000 Honestly, you've got to go.
02:19:30.000 Yeah, that is crazy.
02:19:31.000 You've got to go.
02:19:32.000 You can be responsible for that many kids and say speed over safety.
02:19:36.000 So there's a story.
02:19:37.000 Again, whistleblow.
02:19:38.000 We've put about the videos.
02:19:40.000 I mean, some people, you know.
02:19:41.000 This woman said she was a caseworker at Pomona, and Becerra actually visited that camp, visited, did a photo up, whatever, and he's going on about how we're doing a good job of finding safe places, whatever.
02:19:57.000 And then the interviewer, I was at the taping.
02:20:01.000 She's in a job where she doesn't want retaliation.
02:20:04.000 So I was there for the two hours we taped the conversation, and the interviewer asks her, Did anything change after Becerra's visit?
02:20:14.000 She said, Yeah, everything had to speed up.
02:20:18.000 And they had strike teams that were set up to tell us, don't check.
02:20:23.000 When she would say, This ID is obviously a fake ID for this person.
02:20:27.000 Like the photo is like a selfie.
02:20:29.000 It's obviously fake.
02:20:30.000 Don't worry, just send them quick, get them out.
02:20:33.000 She was really bad.
02:20:33.000 She was surprised.
02:20:35.000 And even the New York Times story had a boy who, she had a few examples because she tracked them down.
02:20:42.000 She wanted to pull it, surprise for it.
02:20:45.000 A kid who ended up in a, I don't know, meatpacking plant, 13, 14 year old, had his arm ripped off in the accident.
02:20:53.000 Our girl, one of those, she came forward as a whistleblower, a victim.
02:20:58.000 She was on camera.
02:21:00.000 She said, she's telling the story.
02:21:02.000 She was like put on a plane and they said, you know, what happens?
02:21:07.000 They didn't let her take her stuff.
02:21:10.000 She was met at the other end.
02:21:12.000 She said, there's three guys.
02:21:16.000 She has no idea who these people are.
02:21:17.000 She's from, I think, Guatemala.
02:21:18.000 It was El Salvador.
02:21:21.000 Gets in a car with three guys, no idea.
02:21:24.000 Taken to a house.
02:21:25.000 She has to work 20 hours a day, sleep on the floor with four guys in a room.
02:21:29.000 She's a girl from.
02:21:32.000 You know, it's just.
02:21:33.000 And there's so many of these stories.
02:21:38.000 The way Bobby puts it is that Becerra turned HHS into the largest child trafficking operation in history.
02:21:47.000 Holy fuck.
02:21:48.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:21:51.000 And this guy is running for California.
02:21:53.000 Of California, I remember honestly, Joe.
02:21:55.000 Like when we did these debates, you know, you we did a lot and not just debates, but forums, and you meet.
02:22:03.000 I thought he's a nice guy, you know, I'd see him, we'd chat backstage or whatever.
02:22:08.000 And I thought, you know, he's kind of nothing, he's a bureaucrat type person, nice guy, perfectly nice, smiley, he's a nice, amiable guy.
02:22:19.000 And I just thought he's like an amiable non entity.
02:22:23.000 But the more you learn about this, it's like really bad.
02:22:27.000 Because it's a classic thing with these career politicians.
02:22:30.000 Obviously, all that mattered was I don't want to look bad.
02:22:36.000 We've got all these kids.
02:22:38.000 They're in these camps.
02:22:39.000 The media has access to them.
02:22:41.000 It's really making me look bad.
02:22:43.000 Get these kids out.
02:22:45.000 It's just shocking.
02:22:47.000 Oh, my God.
02:22:47.000 It's shocking.
02:22:49.000 That's so evil.
02:22:51.000 Yeah, it is.
02:22:52.000 And it's also really racist.
02:22:55.000 All of them were Latino kids.
02:22:56.000 Yeah, because you think about it.
02:22:57.000 If that was all kids from Norway.
02:23:00.000 Little young boys and girls from Norway, do you think they would treat them the same way?
02:23:04.000 So, Pomona, where this camp was, there were three in California Long Beach, San Diego, and Pomona.
02:23:10.000 So, the caseworker who did the whistle, she was, she said, There's a notorious child sex trafficking street area near there.
02:23:25.000 She said, Before this, most of the girls were African American, black girls.
02:23:33.000 After the camp, Suddenly, it was all Latino girls.
02:23:38.000 Like, it was just so obvious that that was what was happening.
02:23:43.000 God, it's just.
02:23:44.000 Child sex trafficking.
02:23:45.000 Well, if there's child sex traffickers and there's such an obvious vulnerability, like hundreds of thousands of unaccompanied kids making across the border, of course they're going to sneak in.
02:23:58.000 Exactly.
02:23:59.000 The whole thing was insane.
02:24:00.000 Can I just add one other thing?
02:24:01.000 The boy.
02:24:05.000 I mean.
02:24:07.000 They took away their.
02:24:08.000 They had these papers that they would send them off with.
02:24:12.000 And it had a line, had information on it, which included a hotline that they set up.
02:24:19.000 If the kids felt they were in danger, it took on a trafficking hotline.
02:24:23.000 There were 65,000 unanswered calls to the hotline.
02:24:28.000 It was just a bullshit like thing that didn't work.
02:24:32.000 And again, the people who pointed that out were fired.
02:24:36.000 Oh my God.
02:24:36.000 It's really bad.
02:24:37.000 It's like to me.
02:24:37.000 The people that pointed it out were fired.
02:24:41.000 It's just, this is to me, I've been in and around politics, media, government, one way or another for a long time.
02:24:49.000 I've never seen anything like this.
02:24:51.000 And he's like.
02:24:52.000 It doesn't even seem like it could be real.
02:24:54.000 That's what I thought.
02:24:55.000 The numbers are so crazy.
02:24:56.000 It seems like some sort of a conspiracy theory that's easily disproven.
02:25:00.000 Exactly.
02:25:01.000 Well, the first reporting of it was the New York Times, 2023.
02:25:08.000 Holy shit.
02:25:10.000 But everything that's coming out is it's worse even than that.
02:25:14.000 What do you think was going on with the whole open border?
02:25:20.000 I think that they.
02:25:23.000 I think they believed that any kind of restriction on immigration was racist.
02:25:31.000 And therefore, it was part of the ideology around that.
02:25:37.000 That we can't put.
02:25:39.000 People are coming and they're fleeing bad conditions and you can't stop them.
02:25:45.000 Because it's racist to put restrictions on immigration.
02:25:48.000 I think that's what it was mainly.
02:25:49.000 Okay.
02:25:50.000 So, that is a great way to justify flying people into swing states and then trying to turn them into citizens, which is what they were actively talking about doing.
02:26:02.000 Pelosi talked about that.
02:26:03.000 Schumer talked about that.
02:26:05.000 They talk about getting these people citizenship, which means those people can vote.
02:26:08.000 There's also moving them into these swing states, and if you move them into the swing states, the census doesn't count whether or not you're a citizen.
02:26:16.000 The census counts whether or not you're a human being, and so it changes the number of congressional seats that are available.
02:26:22.000 So, there's that.
02:26:23.000 And then there's also putting these people on free health care and giving them money and setting them up.
02:26:30.000 And then if you can get those people to vote eventually, you've got a built in voter.
02:26:35.000 And you could change.
02:26:36.000 So I never thought about that.
02:26:38.000 Whatever million people got in over the last four years, they're not going to vote for Trump.
02:26:45.000 If you can make those people vote, if you can let those people vote, how many of those people are going to vote for the Republicans that wanted to get rid of them with ICE?
02:26:52.000 And how many of them are going to vote for the Democrats that wanted to fund them and help them get across the border?
02:26:57.000 It's pretty simple.
02:26:58.000 Even if you don't get all of them, you're going to get most of them.
02:27:01.000 I mean, I hear that often.
02:27:01.000 Do you think that?
02:27:03.000 This is what Elon thinks.
02:27:05.000 It seems to me that's so dark and cynical.
02:27:07.000 Well, if they wanted to do to the whole country what they've done to California and have complete and total control with one party, well, they've already done it in a state.
02:27:16.000 Why not just implement it through the entire country?
02:27:19.000 In California, you can't show ID to the state.
02:27:22.000 I know, it's illegal.
02:27:23.000 That's crazy.
02:27:24.000 Why would you do that?
02:27:25.000 Why would you do that?
02:27:26.000 There's only one reason you want to cheat.
02:27:30.000 And we've got voter ID on the ballot in November in California.
02:27:34.000 Which is crazy that you have to ask for that.
02:27:36.000 Exactly.
02:27:37.000 And the attorney general of this guy, Bonta, I don't know if you've been following, he's doing the Paramount lawsuit.
02:27:42.000 He's like a total political hack.
02:27:45.000 All he ever does, like we've got out of control crime and all this shit.
02:27:50.000 All he does, and the same with, by the way, Becerra, I keep coming, he's my opponent.
02:27:55.000 He was attorney general of California, appointed.
02:27:59.000 He didn't get elected.
02:28:01.000 All he talks about in terms of his record, and he was attorney during the time when crime exploded, is how many times he sued Trump.
02:28:11.000 But this guy, Bonta, now, there was this ballot initiative.
02:28:15.000 There is a ballot initiative on November for voter ID.
02:28:19.000 He just changed the description.
02:28:21.000 Did you see this?
02:28:22.000 No.
02:28:23.000 So it had a kind of accurate description of what it was.
02:28:28.000 You know, this measure, you know, on the ballot, the voter information, this measure will require people to show ID, blah, blah, blah.
02:28:37.000 And that was approved by the whole system.
02:28:42.000 And just in time before they start printing them, he, because it's the Attorney General who decides, changed it to say like the most negative possible thing.
02:28:52.000 This, I mean, I haven't got the exact words you can find it, but it was like, this measure prohibits voting unless you have, and it goes on to make it sound really good.
02:29:02.000 It's like, it's so cynical.
02:29:04.000 This is just what they do.
02:29:07.000 Yeah, well, they were trying to get people to look at it in terms of looking at it through their ideological lens rather than through a practical lens.
02:29:15.000 But it's also like, it's so crazy that you have to have ID for almost everything.
02:29:19.000 Oh, it's crazy.
02:29:20.000 And they say, oh, it's so discriminatory.
02:29:22.000 Like, what are you talking about?
02:29:23.000 That's racist.
02:29:24.000 Yeah.
02:29:24.000 What about driving a car?
02:29:25.000 You have to have a license to drive a car.
02:29:28.000 Check into a hotel.
02:29:28.000 What about, you know.
02:29:29.000 I mean, every night I'm at a different Hampton Inn.
02:29:33.000 That's where we stay.
02:29:35.000 ID.
02:29:36.000 You have to show ID to buy booze.
02:29:36.000 Yeah.
02:29:38.000 It's like.
02:29:40.000 IDs everywhere.
02:29:41.000 It's normal.
02:29:42.000 It's like we need to know that you're real.
02:29:45.000 It's a very, when you watch them defend their opposition to it, it really, I mean, I'm generally not at all, you know, I really do try and see the best, you know, that's just their ideology, whatever, then it's not really cynical.
02:30:02.000 But when you see the way they wriggle and squirm over voter ID, it's like, what other explanation is there?
02:30:08.000 It really, it's such a ridiculous thing to be opposed to.
02:30:08.000 Exactly.
02:30:12.000 It's pretty clear.
02:30:13.000 It's pretty clear that there's an advantage.
02:30:16.000 And the advantage is definitely on the side of the Democrats, the voter ID advantage.
02:30:22.000 It's just crazy.
02:30:24.000 It's just, we have lost our fucking collective minds.
02:30:28.000 And, you know, it doesn't help when, you know, this administration is in this war with Iran that makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
02:30:36.000 And everybody's like, oh.
02:30:37.000 So you look at that, like, it just builds up the other side's argument.
02:30:42.000 Well, that's what they say.
02:30:43.000 So you have to vote them out, no matter what.
02:30:45.000 Example.
02:30:47.000 Massive thing in California for everyone is just gas prices.
02:30:52.000 Highest in the country by far.
02:30:57.000 Higher than Hawaii in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, even though we have abundant oil reserves in California.
02:31:03.000 It's like so insane.
02:31:04.000 They're literally shipping in, they're shutting down California oil production, shipping it in from halfway around the world.
02:31:11.000 Like 80% now is shipped from Iraq and the Amazon rainforest.
02:31:16.000 Like Gavin goes to the Amazon rainforest to the climate conference to lecture everyone about climate.
02:31:23.000 Because of his climate policies, oil drilling in the Amazon is now being increased to provide California's oil.
02:31:30.000 Anyway, so it's so crazy.
02:31:32.000 So they do all these things.
02:31:34.000 Like right now, and it's all as a direct result of what they've done, right?
02:31:41.000 The gas prices are so high.
02:31:43.000 And it's regular working people who are screwed, like people who drive their cars and trucks every day for where it's not the climate worries in their laps.
02:31:52.000 In Marin County, do you know what I mean?
02:31:54.000 Anyway, the war is now their go to response.
02:32:00.000 So you make a point about gas prices oh, it's Trump's war.
02:32:04.000 And of course, it's true that the war has increased gas prices everywhere, but it's still $2 higher in California than anywhere else.
02:32:13.000 Yeah.
02:32:13.000 But it lets them off the hook.
02:32:16.000 Well, it's just indicative of the same problem that you're going to have whenever a single party is running a state for that long unchecked.
02:32:25.000 Just like you were talking about Hungary, or it's just like it could be anywhere.
02:32:29.000 It could fill in the blank anywhere in the world where you get power and you get complete control, and then you just tax the fuck out of people, and then you keep increasing government, which they keep doing.
02:32:39.000 It's pretty wild.
02:32:40.000 Would changing this law make it cheaper, or would that be even harder to do?
02:32:44.000 California gas because it uses a unique, strictly regulated, clean burning boutique blend mandated by the California Air Resources Board to reduce smog and greenhouse gas emissions.
02:32:54.000 Specialized fuel must be refined locally on an energy island because no pipelines.
02:33:00.000 Connect the state to outside fuel networks.
02:33:02.000 It's just more of the same.
02:33:04.000 So, this is important.
02:33:05.000 So, see that California Air Resources Board, CARB, that's the main agency that's driving the cost of everything high when it comes to energy, gas, and electric.
02:33:16.000 And actually, now your earlier question, what can you do?
02:33:20.000 There's basically four reasons that gas prices are the highest in the country.
02:33:25.000 One is the gas tax, which is the highest in the country.
02:33:30.000 That I can't do anything about as governor.
02:33:32.000 That's the legislature.
02:33:33.000 They just increased it.
02:33:35.000 So you've got all these Democrats running around saying, affordability, we have to do something about the affordability crisis.
02:33:41.000 They just increased the gas tax in California.
02:33:44.000 So just, it's so ridiculous.
02:33:46.000 But that's the first thing I can't do anything about directly.
02:33:49.000 All the other things you can, it's partly that, is the regulations on the refinery, but it's also these hidden taxes.
02:33:55.000 Like you've got the low carbon fuels, they all sound good.
02:33:59.000 The low carbon fuel standard, cap and invest, they call it the cap and invest program.
02:34:04.000 That's funding high speed rail.
02:34:06.000 These are basically taxes on gas that the energy industries pay.
02:34:11.000 Then you've got the fact that we're importing all this oil rather than producing it.
02:34:16.000 So instead of producing it in California in the cleanest regulated standards anywhere in the world, right?
02:34:23.000 Which is what we have because we've got all these regulations and sending it in a nice pipeline just a hundred or so miles from near Bakersfield, Kern County to the refineries in Long Beach and Torrance.
02:34:37.000 We are, what I said earlier, shipping it in, because like that said, there's no pipeline from outside California, bringing it on tankers from the number one in the Middle East is Iraq.
02:34:47.000 Burning immense amounts of fuel all along the way.
02:34:50.000 Because they run on bunker fuel, which is the most dirty form of oil.
02:34:55.000 So they are, I'm not, this is an accurate statement.
02:34:59.000 They are increasing carbon emissions in the name of climate to make it look as if they're climate warriors fighting fossil fuels.
02:35:09.000 It's just.
02:35:11.000 fucking crazy.
02:35:12.000 Yeah, but it's the ideology.
02:35:14.000 It's not even.
02:35:15.000 It's so funny.
02:35:16.000 I used to sort of talk about their climate policies.
02:35:18.000 It's not even the climate policies, it's climate posturing.
02:35:21.000 It's like.
02:35:21.000 They want to look as if they're doing something.
02:35:24.000 Well, it's a part of the ideology, like you said.
02:35:27.000 It's a part of the doctrine, the religious doctrine that is the left.
02:35:30.000 You have to say that climate change is real.
02:35:33.000 Science is science.
02:35:34.000 You have to say a bunch of things.
02:35:35.000 Love is love.
02:35:36.000 You have to say a bunch of things.
02:35:37.000 It's in this house.
02:35:38.000 It's the thing.
02:35:39.000 I would say that's literally virtue signaling.
02:35:41.000 It's not just virtue signaling.
02:35:43.000 It's kind of religious doctrine.
02:35:45.000 It's ideology signaling.
02:35:47.000 It's not just a catchy phrase, but that's what it is.
02:35:50.000 And it's kind of religious.
02:35:52.000 And like Marc Andreessen's talked about this, it's kind of like a cult.
02:35:56.000 If you don't follow it, you are excommunicated.
02:35:58.000 Yeah.
02:35:59.000 And I did a conference the other day in Sacramento where I went up, and there's something about it.
02:36:04.000 It was the smugness was so.
02:36:08.000 I normally try and be reasonable and just, you know, make my arguments and sort of.
02:36:14.000 There was something about this.
02:36:15.000 It was a kind of climate thing.
02:36:16.000 And there's things I agree with.
02:36:18.000 It was green energy.
02:36:21.000 I'm all for that.
02:36:21.000 Whatever.
02:36:22.000 Let's have innovation.
02:36:22.000 Great.
02:36:24.000 I'm not against any of that.
02:36:25.000 I am against the windmills.
02:36:27.000 The insane windmills.
02:36:29.000 Totally inefficient.
02:36:31.000 And then they have to go into landfills.
02:36:33.000 And they only last a certain amount of years.
02:36:34.000 Then you have to take them down and then bury them in the earth where they never degrade.
02:36:38.000 And they catch fire and it's a lifestyle.
02:36:40.000 They kill birds.
02:36:42.000 Wait, but by the way, whales.
02:36:43.000 Have you heard the latest, though?
02:36:45.000 This is the.
02:36:46.000 It's actually one of my bits to go back to the thing because it's so crazy.
02:36:52.000 Is the new plan for windmills offshore?
02:36:57.000 Windmills in California in two parts Morrow Bay off the central coast, Humboldt up in the north, including having them far out because the wind is more, but except also the ocean is deep there.
02:37:11.000 So they're going to have floating windmills.
02:37:13.000 Have you heard this one?
02:37:14.000 No.
02:37:15.000 Floating.
02:37:16.000 And these windmills are, they're big, they're like a thousand feet.
02:37:20.000 That's the height of the Eiffel Tower, pretty much.
02:37:23.000 Floating.
02:37:25.000 And one of the proposals is like 10,000.
02:37:27.000 So 10,000.
02:37:29.000 Eiffel Towers floating off the.
02:37:32.000 It's insane.
02:37:34.000 Trump's just stopped it.
02:37:37.000 And now they're suing to reopen it.
02:37:41.000 By the way, when we have in California today existing natural gas fired power stations which could provide all our more than all our electricity needs today, more than all.
02:37:57.000 It's like something like 300 gigawatt hours a year.
02:37:59.000 We only use about 270, something like that.
02:38:02.000 But they're running these natural gas power stations at like 10, like 20% of their capacity to use as backup for the windmills and for the solar farms.
02:38:13.000 If you ran them at full capacity, what we've already got, you don't even have to build anything.
02:38:17.000 You could more than meet all our needs.
02:38:19.000 But no, that's too sensible.
02:38:21.000 So we have the floating windmills.
02:38:23.000 And of course, we have the highest electric bills in the country, apart from Hawaii, double the national average.
02:38:30.000 And the reason I got cross at this conference was that they were going, you want to reduce the renewable goals or something.
02:38:38.000 No, I just want common sense.
02:38:40.000 I'm all for it.
02:38:40.000 If it makes sense, if you can make it pay, great.
02:38:43.000 But the people who you're hurting with all of this is regular working people, not kind of elite people at a conference in Sacramento, just working class people who are just being crushed.
02:38:55.000 And I see it every day.
02:38:57.000 And the struggle, you know, literally, the number one thing people say to me, it's really striking when in all these, you know, I've really met a lot of people, as I said, hundreds of events, thousands and thousands of people.
02:39:10.000 They say, it's not like, oh, good luck, it's like you have to win.
02:39:15.000 There's like this intensity, it's really interesting.
02:39:18.000 Well, because they know it's slipping away, they don't want to move, and they're so it's hard.
02:39:23.000 It's gotten significantly worse over the last 10 years, and they don't want to move, yeah.
02:39:27.000 And it's so difficult.
02:39:29.000 And these fucking story, but people just oh, and it's not even it's so casual and cruel the way it's like, yeah, for our ideology, we'll jack up your electric bills and your gas prices, and you just have to suck it up because we want to make ourselves feel like we're leading on climate.
02:39:48.000 That's the other thing.
02:39:50.000 They were yelling at me from this conference.
02:39:53.000 And I said, You tell me what is the impact of any of this on climate change?
02:40:01.000 I said, I'll give you everything you're saying about climate change, okay?
02:40:04.000 I agree.
02:40:05.000 Climate change, we've got to fight climate change.
02:40:08.000 What is this doing to fight climate change?
02:40:11.000 What is the impact on global temperatures of any of this?
02:40:16.000 And, like, nothing, because the answer is zero.
02:40:20.000 It has zero impact on global temperatures, which is the only thing that matters.
02:40:24.000 And then someone shouts out, This is where they always go, Oh, we're leading.
02:40:28.000 We have to have a leadership role.
02:40:30.000 We're leading.
02:40:32.000 That's it.
02:40:33.000 Who's following?
02:40:35.000 Because it's crazy.
02:40:35.000 No one.
02:40:37.000 It's hurting people.
02:40:38.000 All these countries are backing off it.
02:40:40.000 That's the one thing that China has an advantage in their government and their business work like that.
02:40:46.000 And the business works for the government and the government controls the businesses.
02:40:46.000 Yeah.
02:40:50.000 It's not a good thing.
02:40:52.000 But the one advantage that they have in there, they don't do anything stupid that's just going to lose money for virtue signaling.
02:40:57.000 Exactly.
02:40:57.000 They open coal fired plants like crazy.
02:41:01.000 Exactly, which are, you know, part of the energy that's going into making the solar panels that are shipped across the ocean to make these people feel good.
02:41:11.000 It's true.
02:41:12.000 It is true.
02:41:13.000 It's wild.
02:41:14.000 I mean, it's just, wow, I can't believe it.
02:41:16.000 It's wild, but I mean, this is the problem with a government handling something versus the private sector.
02:41:21.000 If the private sector handled it, it would have to be profitable, it would have to make sense.
02:41:24.000 And they keep saying solar's really cheap.
02:41:26.000 You know, I said, great.
02:41:28.000 So, why do we have the highest electric bills in the country apart from Hawaii if it's all so great?
02:41:33.000 I'm not against it.
02:41:34.000 If you want to have a solar panel, a battery, that's great.
02:41:36.000 You know, I'm not against any of this, but don't force it in a way that just raises the cost for regular working people.
02:41:44.000 Well, California just loves to regulate, they love it.
02:41:47.000 It's part of the big government.
02:41:50.000 Have you seen just the tires?
02:41:52.000 Oh, you've seen that?
02:41:52.000 The tires, yeah.
02:41:53.000 Yeah, I saw it.
02:41:54.000 I was going to bring that up.
02:41:56.000 Yeah.
02:41:58.000 So, what is the.
02:42:01.000 Let's pull it up, Jamie.
02:42:02.000 The new California regulations on tires, restricting the kind of tires you could buy?
02:42:09.000 They can't help themselves.
02:42:11.000 They need to justify all these jobs.
02:42:13.000 There is so much government.
02:42:15.000 But I just want to give you this is a good example, which is all of these things.
02:42:18.000 California regulators approved new rules limiting what replacement tires you can buy for your car.
02:42:23.000 So, what is the rationale behind this?
02:42:26.000 Approved new rules that will restrict which tires you can buy when it is time to replace them.
02:42:30.000 Unanimous vote.
02:42:32.000 California Energy Commission voted to adopt new rules that will phase out the sale of replacement tires that don't meet certain energy efficiency standards.
02:42:41.000 Ultimately, about protecting consumers.
02:42:44.000 I see this as sheltering the public from higher costs in the long term.
02:42:48.000 Long run.
02:42:48.000 Long run, excuse me.
02:42:49.000 Tire manufacturers and the commission staff are at odds over whether this will add to the cost of living in the state.
02:42:54.000 It will.
02:42:55.000 Both sides acknowledge this will no longer allow the sale of a significant portion of the tires currently sold in California.
02:43:01.000 Fucking A. That's 70%.
02:43:04.000 So the center of this is a tire's rolling resistance or how much energy a tire uses as it rolls down the road.
02:43:12.000 Lower resistance means a vehicle uses less gas or electricity.
02:43:16.000 New cars come with energy efficient tires, but consumers typically replace those with higher rolling resistance tires.
02:43:22.000 I wonder if that has anything to do with performance cars.
02:43:27.000 So, you know, I would imagine rolling resistance.
02:43:33.000 So, rolling resistance, what would that mean?
02:43:35.000 Does that mean friction?
02:43:37.000 Yes, basically friction.
02:43:37.000 Okay, so friction is traction.
02:43:39.000 So, you want more traction.
02:43:40.000 So, you're basically making people buy performance tires?
02:43:43.000 No, the other way around.
02:43:44.000 Really?
02:43:45.000 So, traction is less resistance.
02:43:45.000 Yeah, the other way around.
02:43:48.000 It's more resistance.
02:43:50.000 Maximum resistance is traction.
02:43:52.000 So, if they want, they allow the sale of tires with a maximum rolling resistance of 9.1 newtons per kiloton.
02:44:01.000 It lowers it to 7.2 starting in 2033.
02:44:06.000 So, yeah, it's making it less traction.
02:44:10.000 That's what it's saying, right?
02:44:12.000 Rolling resistance.
02:44:13.000 I'm not sure what it says.
02:44:15.000 What they want is the energy efficient.
02:44:17.000 Ensure replacement tires sold in California are at least as energy efficient on average as the tires that come with the truck.
02:44:24.000 So, my perception is that a tire with more traction would be more efficient.
02:44:31.000 No, for driving, yeah, but not for climate.
02:44:33.000 Yeah, but when you go into the store to buy them, most people are going to buy the cheapest thing available.
02:44:38.000 They're not going to drive traffic with the cheapest thing.
02:44:40.000 The cheapest thing available would have less traction, correct?
02:44:42.000 It'd just be the cheapest thing available.
02:44:43.000 Right.
02:44:44.000 The thing about the cars, like performance tires, they don't last as long.
02:44:49.000 Because there's a softer rubber, and the softer rubber grips better.
02:44:53.000 And so, like, if you buy.
02:44:54.000 That's what they want to get rid of.
02:44:56.000 That's what they want to get rid of.
02:44:58.000 But those are the ones that have more traction.
02:44:58.000 Yeah.
02:45:00.000 That's what I'm confused about.
02:45:01.000 That would seem to be more energy efficient in terms of the use of the car.
02:45:06.000 Well, that's what they're arguing it's for.
02:45:09.000 But they are.
02:45:10.000 You're going to end up with these little tires that don't.
02:45:13.000 I mean, all the people that want to go off road or whatever, that's what you can't.
02:45:16.000 You can't buy off road tires?
02:45:18.000 70% of the tires are going to be banned.
02:45:21.000 That are currently sold.
02:45:23.000 70%.
02:45:24.000 That was one of the reporters at KCRA, Ashley Zavala.
02:45:28.000 She's really on all these stories, very aggressive.
02:45:31.000 She's really exposing a lot of this nonsense.
02:45:34.000 And that was, I think, her number 70%.
02:45:36.000 Wouldn't they just make new off road tires then?
02:45:38.000 Yeah, but they wouldn't be as good.
02:45:41.000 How often are you driving off road in LA?
02:45:43.000 Well, I'm not, but some people are.
02:45:46.000 But there's a bunch of people who love driving off road.
02:45:48.000 And they're like, how are we doing this?
02:45:50.000 They're going to be off road stores if I'm tired.
02:45:51.000 Hold on while he's talking.
02:45:52.000 It's over.
02:45:53.000 You've got homeless everywhere, the highest taxes in the country.
02:45:58.000 Businesses are leaving every single day.
02:46:00.000 It's a real economic emergency.
02:46:02.000 We have the highest unemployment rate in the country, we have the highest poverty rate in the country, the highest cost of living.
02:46:08.000 And this is what the government's focused on.
02:46:10.000 I mean, we've got to wake up, right?
02:46:12.000 This is insane that they're focused on this.
02:46:15.000 They're churning out absolute nonsense.
02:46:18.000 The regulations, the bureaucracy, this is totally unaccountable.
02:46:23.000 This is some bureaucrat that's discovered a rule.
02:46:26.000 Nancy Skinner, who used to represent Berkeley, found this thing in some obscure place that no one had noticed for 20 years.
02:46:37.000 Suddenly, this bureaucratic agency decides to bring in this rule.
02:46:41.000 No input from the voters.
02:46:44.000 But here's my question What is this impact going to have on the car market?
02:46:51.000 If you sell a car that has a particular type of performance tire that no longer fits.
02:46:57.000 I don't know.
02:46:58.000 I don't know what.
02:46:59.000 Could we ask perplexity?
02:47:01.000 Is this referring to tires with more traction or less traction?
02:47:05.000 Energy.california.gov second sentence is unfortunately, replacement tires are often less efficient.
02:47:12.000 That's why your mileage drops the first time you replace your tires.
02:47:15.000 An efficiency gap between new car tires and replacement tires means California drivers are paying nearly a billion dollars in additional fuel costs, which is.
02:47:24.000 So are these inefficient tires less expensive?
02:47:27.000 Is that what it is?
02:47:28.000 Yeah, I think I'm much better.
02:47:29.000 Makes sense, right?
02:47:30.000 So the more expensive tires are more efficient, which means they would have better traction.
02:47:34.000 Is that what it is?
02:47:37.000 That makes sense, right?
02:47:38.000 Because if the tire has less traction, that means it slips more.
02:47:42.000 If it slips more, it's not as efficient.
02:47:45.000 You wouldn't get as good a gas mileage.
02:47:47.000 But they're doing this for climate.
02:47:49.000 That's what they're saying.
02:47:51.000 We need to lower emissions.
02:47:52.000 That's what it's all about because of the use of the gas.
02:47:55.000 The 70% thing is crazy.
02:47:57.000 Because if you have a, let's say if you buy a Chevy truck that's an off road truck, right?
02:48:04.000 Those are not efficient tires.
02:48:06.000 So what are you going to be able to get for them now?
02:48:08.000 I don't know.
02:48:08.000 I mean, it's just come out.
02:48:10.000 So everyone's looking into this.
02:48:13.000 And you just think.
02:48:13.000 And there's no recourse?
02:48:15.000 No, they've just, well, there will be when I'm there because I'm going to get rid of these people because this is going back to the question earlier.
02:48:21.000 Okay.
02:48:21.000 Oh, seven.
02:48:22.000 Benefits of the proposed regulation Consumer savings.
02:48:24.000 Proposed regulation would save nearly $1 billion per year in gasoline and electricity costs.
02:48:30.000 Right.
02:48:31.000 Air quality.
02:48:32.000 By reducing fuel consumed, the proposed regulation would reduce CO2 emissions by 2.0 million metric tons per year, which is the equivalent of taking 400,000 gasoline cars off California roads.
02:48:44.000 It would also reduce other criteria, such as air pollutants, such as nitric oxide.
02:48:49.000 And particulate matter.
02:48:51.000 Reduced energy demand.
02:48:52.000 The proposed regulation will reduce California demand for gasoline by 141 million gallons.
02:48:58.000 Also, reduce demand for electricity by 0.9 terawatts per hour each year.
02:49:07.000 Okay, the following tires are excluded from the proposed regulation minimum performance standards competition tires used for motorsports, winter type snow tires, all season winter performance tires, used and retreaded tires, deep tread tires.
02:49:23.000 Tires designed for ATVs or other off road vehicles, large off road tires for use up to 99 miles an hour, motorcycle tires, temporary spare tires, small tires with 13 inch nominal rim diameter, proposed limited production tires, tires sold for use on an emergency vehicle, high load index tires, tires not capable of sustaining speeds over 50 miles per hour, and space saver tires.
02:49:51.000 So it seems like there's a lot of caveats.
02:49:53.000 No, this is.
02:49:56.000 But look at that, like that list again.
02:49:58.000 Nobody believes that this is about saving money.
02:50:01.000 No, it seems like they're just.
02:50:03.000 This is entirely their ideology for climate.
02:50:06.000 This is some bullshit calculation.
02:50:08.000 Is there a world where that makes sense, though, where they're right and it will reduce all that gasoline and it actually will be better for everybody?
02:50:16.000 And you'll force people to make better tires?
02:50:19.000 And, you know, they're churning out low quality tires and this could be mitigated a long time ago?
02:50:28.000 Well, I don't know.
02:50:29.000 I think that the reaction to it is exactly the opposite, which is here they come again.
02:50:33.000 Here they come again is real.
02:50:35.000 Yeah, I mean, another thing.
02:50:37.000 As I said, it's just been announced, so we've got to dig into it.
02:50:39.000 But I mean, it's just, to me, such a kind of crazy example of them endlessly micromanaging everything.
02:50:46.000 Yeah, think about these big, big problems.
02:50:50.000 California's new tire rule could wipe out 70% of what's on the shelf, and Sacramento sat on the law for 23 years.
02:51:00.000 Oh.
02:51:03.000 So, Sacramento didn't invent a new law on Monday.
02:51:05.000 It finally read one.
02:51:06.000 It wrote in 2003.
02:51:09.000 Okay.
02:51:10.000 I mean, it's just infuriating to me.
02:51:12.000 They love to tell you what to do.
02:51:14.000 That's part of what California is.
02:51:16.000 So, we did a thing last year.
02:51:22.000 Remember, this is the point about there's no checks, no one's stopping anything.
02:51:25.000 Right.
02:51:26.000 In the last legislative session last year, not even the whole year, just a few months, they passed 1,118 bills.
02:51:35.000 We counted them.
02:51:36.000 We printed them out.
02:51:38.000 It was double my height.
02:51:40.000 Obviously, no one can read them.
02:51:43.000 Knew some signs, most of them, like the vast majority.
02:51:46.000 He hasn't read them.
02:51:47.000 It has stuff like this in it.
02:51:50.000 And no one's paying attention.
02:51:53.000 And the corrupt system, the interest groups that want what they want from the system, they get these bills written and then they get passed.
02:52:03.000 And then here you are 23 years later, something that's in some obscure law.
02:52:07.000 That's how it all works.
02:52:09.000 And The answer to the question, like what could you do about it, is basically captured in these two things.
02:52:16.000 Like, number one, all these agencies that are pushing out these rules, it's the executive branch.
02:52:22.000 So, as the governor, you control the executive branch.
02:52:25.000 You can fire the people on these boards and you can replace them with people with some common sense.
02:52:31.000 And you can actually merge them, you can reorganize them, you could cut them back.
02:52:35.000 There's a whole bunch of things you could do on the bureaucracy because so much of this is coming out of the bureaucracy.
02:52:40.000 Secondly, you can veto the legislation.
02:52:44.000 And the point is always made if they have a two thirds majority, they can overturn a veto.
02:52:48.000 That's correct.
02:52:50.000 But the last time they overturned a veto from the governor was 1979.
02:52:55.000 So they don't like doing it because suddenly they have to justify all this shit that goes through without any scrutiny.
02:53:02.000 If you veto it, if they want to overturn it, suddenly they have to make the argument.
02:53:08.000 And so much of what you get in California just goes through without anyone noticing.
02:53:12.000 That's the real problem.
02:53:14.000 Corruption in the system.
02:53:18.000 And so the other thing I'd say is that you also write the budget.
02:53:23.000 The governor writes the budget and sends it to the legislature.
02:53:27.000 And then you have to negotiate.
02:53:28.000 But again, you know, if you take out all this waste and, you know, we just announced last week Operation Zero Waste, cancel funding for high speed rail, cancel free healthcare for illegal immigrants, all these things that we said we'd do.
02:53:42.000 How much has been spent on that high speed rail?
02:53:45.000 So far, total 15 billion.
02:53:47.000 Oh, that's a bargain.
02:53:48.000 So the total they've gotten a lot done, though, right?
02:53:50.000 Okay, so that was so it was 2008, it was supposed to be $30 billion, the total budget.
02:54:00.000 And it's supposed to be open in 2020.
02:54:02.000 And it was two and a half hours from San Francisco to LA.
02:54:05.000 So the latest is it's going to be open, maybe if you're lucky, by the end of 2030s.
02:54:12.000 It's going to be the new budget from $30 billion.
02:54:15.000 It's now $230 billion.
02:54:18.000 Right?
02:54:19.000 The plan, as they laughably call it, is the first bit is San Francisco to Merced at the top of the Central Valley on the regular train line that's already there.
02:54:31.000 And then Merced to Bakersfield is the high-speed rail.
02:54:35.000 And then Bakersfield to LA, a bus.
02:54:39.000 Bus.
02:54:40.000 Have you heard that?
02:54:42.000 That's real.
02:54:42.000 It's real.
02:54:44.000 That drive from Bakersfield to LA, which I've done a lot, it's through the Great.
02:54:48.000 It's already congested as fuck.
02:54:50.000 Right.
02:54:50.000 You can take that, can take two and a half hours.
02:54:52.000 Yeah, if you're unlucky, so this is what it's and it's so crazy.
02:54:58.000 330 billion for that, and then Becerra, my opponent, he went to Fresno the other week.
02:55:04.000 He announced that he would finish it on time and on budget.
02:55:11.000 On time was six years ago, on budget, they've spent 120 million bucks.
02:55:18.000 Okay, the total, the budget was 30, they've spent 15 and they've not laid any tracks at all, Gavin.
02:55:25.000 It's classic, Gavin.
02:55:26.000 It's almost my favorite.
02:55:27.000 He did an event because obviously he's running for president.
02:55:30.000 He doesn't, this is embarrassing.
02:55:31.000 He wants to sort of shape the narrative.
02:55:33.000 So he did this press conference somewhere there with trains in the background to make it look like this is a real thing.
02:55:41.000 And they haven't laid any track.
02:55:43.000 And there's no plans to lay any track.
02:55:45.000 But he was standing by tracks to sort of, I think, make people think there's tracks.
02:55:49.000 But even he, the phrase that he used was to announce that we are now entering the track laying phase.
02:55:59.000 Phase that could be another 10 years, it's so ridiculous.
02:56:04.000 And then you're gonna have to get a bus, and the bus it's real that is the plan.
02:56:08.000 And then, so why is that because the just logistics they can't get the train through the mountains?
02:56:13.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:56:15.000 So you have to have a bus.
02:56:16.000 Yeah, I mean, oh, they they I don't actually know what the long term plan I can't believe that's the whole idea.
02:56:23.000 I think that's just what's gonna be available.
02:56:25.000 It says it's just like the most tunneling has to happen on that part, so maybe they're just waiting.
02:56:29.000 I think it's a long time.
02:56:30.000 It's not that eventually.
02:56:31.000 So they'll dig some more tunnels.
02:56:33.000 It says it would require the most tunneling of the mountain crossings with four separate tunnels totaling 28 miles in length.
02:56:40.000 How much of the nature.
02:56:41.000 They're going to go across the San Andreas Fault, which is the biggest problem.
02:56:44.000 Oh, even better.
02:56:44.000 They're going to cross an earthquake.
02:56:45.000 How much of nature is going to get destroyed in the production of that?
02:56:49.000 Yeah.
02:56:49.000 But who even wants this?
02:56:50.000 Tunneling through mountains.
02:56:52.000 The other thing is, so I spoke to someone who works with Elon.
02:56:56.000 Well, you can check with Elon.
02:56:57.000 So he said that you could do the boring company.
02:57:00.000 I could do a tunnel, the whole thing, for $5 billion.
02:57:03.000 Now, I don't know if that's.
02:57:04.000 True, but it's this is such a you know, it's such a monument to the whole thing, right?
02:57:12.000 Yeah.
02:57:12.000 Take the money, waste it, spend it on nothing, endlessly delay.
02:57:18.000 How come Gavin's not running again?
02:57:21.000 He can't.
02:57:22.000 He can't.
02:57:22.000 Oh, he did.
02:57:23.000 Two terms.
02:57:24.000 Yeah.
02:57:25.000 It's so crazy.
02:57:27.000 And you've got this pretend.
02:57:30.000 This is what's really.
02:57:31.000 There was just a video that someone found of him talking in 2015 when he was lieutenant governor about what a joke the whole thing was.
02:57:37.000 Yeah.
02:57:38.000 Speaking very honestly about it.
02:57:39.000 Yeah.
02:57:41.000 And it's kind of funny and ridiculous.
02:57:43.000 Oh, look at that.
02:57:44.000 He says that then, now he says, but it's actually infuriating because they're still taking the money to pay for it.
02:57:50.000 They're still pretending and they're taking money out of people.
02:57:54.000 The funding, like I said, comes from this thing called Cap and Invest, which is the gas tax.
02:58:02.000 It's just insane.
02:58:04.000 Steve, I hope you win.
02:58:06.000 We've got to wrap this up and bring it home, but I hope you win.
02:58:08.000 It'll be fun.
02:58:08.000 Yeah, it'll be hilarious if you win.
02:58:11.000 Great.
02:58:11.000 What job do you want, Joe?
02:58:12.000 I don't want a job.
02:58:13.000 We'll have you do something.
02:58:14.000 I don't even like going back to California.
02:58:16.000 Well, okay.
02:58:17.000 The only reason I'm doing it is that you've moved back.
02:58:20.000 I'm never going to move back.
02:58:22.000 I know.
02:58:23.000 It's too good here.
02:58:24.000 I know it's too fun.
02:58:25.000 I love it here.
02:58:25.000 I can see that.
02:58:26.000 I really hope you win.
02:58:27.000 Thank you, man.
02:58:28.000 I think you have a chance.
02:58:30.000 I really do.
02:58:31.000 I mean, you make a lot of sense, and that's a lot in this day and age.
02:58:36.000 It's a lot.
02:58:37.000 You're also actually a good guy.
02:58:39.000 Like, I know you.
02:58:39.000 You're an actual good guy.
02:58:41.000 You're not like some weird lizard person.
02:58:43.000 You know what I mean?
02:58:44.000 Like, there's some faith.
02:58:46.000 Yes, I do.
02:58:46.000 I've met a lot in Sacramento.
02:58:48.000 You are who you are.
02:58:50.000 You are really you.
02:58:51.000 I can attest to that.
02:58:52.000 I know you.
02:58:52.000 Like, I've known you before you had any political aspirations.
02:58:54.000 You're the exact same person.
02:58:56.000 There's a lot of these people that are just skin suits.
02:58:58.000 There's skin suits over lizards.
02:59:00.000 There's lizards in there.
02:59:03.000 Whether metaphorically or physically, they're fucking lizard people.
02:59:06.000 And that's a real thing.
02:59:09.000 So, I hope you win.
02:59:10.000 You can come to my inauguration.
02:59:11.000 I will.
02:59:12.000 Just that.
02:59:12.000 Just that.
02:59:13.000 Commit to that.
02:59:13.000 Yeah, I'll come.
02:59:14.000 If you win, I'll come.
02:59:16.000 All right.
02:59:16.000 All right.
02:59:17.000 All right.
02:59:18.000 Bye, everybody.