The Joe Rogan Experience - October 15, 2026


Joe Rogan Experience #2566 - Cody Tucker

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Joe Rogan Experience #2565 - Michael Douglas

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00:00:01.000 Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out.
00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.
00:00:06.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
00:00:09.000 Cody, what's happening?
00:00:13.000 Hey, man.
00:00:14.000 Good to see you, brother.
00:00:15.000 I know.
00:00:15.000 You wrote a book.
00:00:16.000 Look at you.
00:00:17.000 A second one.
00:00:17.000 You're a fucking author.
00:00:18.000 I never did.
00:00:19.000 Oh, is this your second book?
00:00:20.000 Yeah, I remember last time I was in one of my books.
00:00:22.000 Oh, that's right.
00:00:23.000 That's right.
00:00:24.000 Where did that come from?
00:00:26.000 I still, I mean, I marvel at your Instagram page.
00:00:29.000 Your Instagram page is excellent.
00:00:31.000 It's one of the best ones I've ever watched, for sure.
00:00:33.000 But I just marvel at the fact that you're constantly able to create content like these non sequitur, very bizarre facts and strange coincidences.
00:00:44.000 Like, how the fuck are you doing this?
00:00:47.000 Dude, I read so much.
00:00:49.000 And I'm a pretty quick reader.
00:00:51.000 Like, I've always been very fast, like a good skimmer.
00:00:54.000 And yeah, I just like all day, every day.
00:00:56.000 That's all I do.
00:00:57.000 So you read, and then you go, oh, that one's crazy.
00:01:02.000 And you just write it down?
00:01:03.000 Yeah.
00:01:03.000 So, like, Whatever I'm reading, like I say, I'm reading a book on Ben Franklin.
00:01:08.000 I'll anything that comes up that I'm like, oh, that's pretty interesting.
00:01:11.000 I don't think a lot of people know about that.
00:01:13.000 Highlight.
00:01:14.000 And then I go through, piece all together, check and make sure it's all, you know, real.
00:01:19.000 And yeah, and then dive into other things off of that, like kind of spiderweb out and go down rabbit holes.
00:01:25.000 I'm in a perpetual rabbit hole.
00:01:28.000 Constantly.
00:01:29.000 All day, every day.
00:01:30.000 Rabbit holes.
00:01:31.000 What is that like?
00:01:33.000 It can get weird.
00:01:34.000 Yeah.
00:01:35.000 I mean, there's some times where I'm like, oh, I hope.
00:01:38.000 You know, I hope the FBI is enjoying what they're seeing because, uh, good lord, like I didn't want to be here today, but yeah, it can get a little odd, yeah, yeah, because you're constantly like researching crimes and oh, yeah, yeah, murders, um, weird things that have been done to people over time.
00:01:56.000 Speaking, you know, the Debbie Harry story, well, that she thinks may have happened.
00:02:01.000 I don't know if I buy it, really, tell people what it is, okay, so Ted Bundy one, so yeah, so Debbie Harry believes that sometime in the early 70s or late 60s.
00:02:11.000 That she was picked up by a man driving a Volkswagen Beetle, and that that car didn't have indoor handles, and she escaped.
00:02:20.000 She believes that it was Ted Bundy.
00:02:22.000 But if you look it up, like on a timeline of events, he was not anywhere around there at that time.
00:02:28.000 So it could just be another guy doing creepy things.
00:02:32.000 When there's one, there's many.
00:02:34.000 Yeah, I'm sure that's not the first time a guy's figured out a way to close off the handles on the inside of his car.
00:02:40.000 Oh, it won't be the last.
00:02:41.000 Trap people.
00:02:42.000 Yeah, I'm working on it right now.
00:02:44.000 I watched a video today where this young man in India robbed a guy with scopolamine.
00:02:52.000 What the hell is that?
00:02:53.000 Okay.
00:02:54.000 I'm so glad I get to tell you something that you don't know.
00:02:56.000 Oh, yeah.
00:02:57.000 If it's science related or anything like that, I'm probably not going to know anything.
00:03:01.000 It's crime related as well.
00:03:02.000 Scopolamine is a drug that is, I guess, in the class of delirium.
00:03:09.000 And if inhaled, You literally become like a prisoner to whoever gave you the drug.
00:03:17.000 Like you become like a zombie.
00:03:20.000 Yeah.
00:03:20.000 It is like a zombie drug.
00:03:22.000 Not only is it real, but it's also the active ingredient in anti seasickness medication.
00:03:30.000 So when you take dramamine.
00:03:31.000 I'm the captain now.
00:03:32.000 Dramamine.
00:03:35.000 Look at me.
00:03:36.000 That's what he was doing.
00:03:38.000 He blew it right in Hank's face.
00:03:39.000 Scopolamine is one of the ingredients in dramamine.
00:03:44.000 Oh.
00:03:45.000 So I don't know.
00:03:46.000 I guess it's a very small dose, but in a larger dose.
00:03:49.000 So, this guy, this young guy, came up behind this guy in India and he put it on his neck.
00:03:56.000 And the guy touches his neck.
00:03:58.000 And then all of a sudden, he just keeps touching his neck.
00:04:01.000 And the guy just takes his bag off of him, takes his wallet out of his pocket, takes his phone out of his other pocket, and walks off.
00:04:07.000 And the guy's just standing there, just helpless, lost and helpless.
00:04:12.000 That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard.
00:04:14.000 That's so crazy.
00:04:14.000 Yeah, it's like.
00:04:15.000 God.
00:04:16.000 What do they refer to it as?
00:04:17.000 Devil's breath.
00:04:19.000 Devil's breath.
00:04:20.000 That's right.
00:04:20.000 In Colombia, the drug dealers use it.
00:04:23.000 To force people to do things.
00:04:25.000 Yeah, okay.
00:04:27.000 They blow it in their face.
00:04:28.000 And when they inhale it, it's like they literally just come up to you.
00:04:32.000 Right.
00:04:33.000 Where have I seen that in a movie?
00:04:35.000 There was a zombie movie a long time ago.
00:04:39.000 Serpent and the Rainbow?
00:04:40.000 Oh, that's right.
00:04:40.000 That's right.
00:04:41.000 Yeah, great movie.
00:04:43.000 I'm so glad we just brought that up.
00:04:45.000 I forgot about that movie.
00:04:46.000 Yeah, Serpent and the Rainbow is on my.
00:04:47.000 I used to watch that all the time when I was a kid.
00:04:49.000 Well, they think that that might be a part of the whole zombie lore.
00:04:55.000 That scopolamine use.
00:04:57.000 Okay.
00:04:58.000 Oh, that makes sense.
00:04:59.000 Yeah.
00:04:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:01.000 Oh, that's interesting.
00:05:02.000 Yeah, it's apparently like.
00:05:04.000 See if there's any videos of people getting dosed with scopolamine.
00:05:09.000 Because this.
00:05:10.000 I didn't know that people did it to rob people.
00:05:13.000 And this guy in India, he just like touched some of it on this guy's neck.
00:05:18.000 Right, right.
00:05:18.000 He was standing behind him and he was looking at the guy's bag and, you know, looking the guy over.
00:05:22.000 The guy's waiting across the street.
00:05:24.000 Yeah.
00:05:24.000 And he just.
00:05:25.000 Reaches and touches the side of his neck with it.
00:05:28.000 So it's potent as hell.
00:05:29.000 Potent as hell.
00:05:31.000 Man.
00:05:32.000 Well, he didn't go unconscious.
00:05:33.000 Yeah.
00:05:34.000 He immediately was just like, what the hell?
00:05:36.000 And then it was just like, just delirious, just moving around weird.
00:05:40.000 And the guy just took a shit.
00:05:41.000 I wonder where you buy that.
00:05:43.000 That's a good question.
00:05:45.000 Maybe you shouldn't search that either.
00:05:46.000 Well, I've searched more.
00:05:48.000 What's that, James?
00:05:48.000 There's patches of it for motion sickness.
00:05:50.000 Yeah, motion sickness.
00:05:51.000 But like, how many patches do you have to take before someone could just steal your wallet?
00:05:55.000 That's a question.
00:05:55.000 You have to like mummify them just head to toe.
00:05:58.000 I know, right?
00:05:59.000 What do you have to do?
00:06:00.000 That's where mummies go.
00:06:01.000 Yeah.
00:06:02.000 Is there any videos I'm looking for?
00:06:04.000 All the videos I'm looking for on YouTube are literal, like, the patches and, like, people putting them on their neck.
00:06:11.000 There is a Vice documentary from 14 years ago.
00:06:14.000 Mm.
00:06:15.000 That's in Colombia.
00:06:16.000 Boy, 14 years ago, Vice was the shit.
00:06:18.000 Oh, man.
00:06:19.000 Did you ever watch The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia?
00:06:23.000 Liberia, yeah.
00:06:24.000 Yeah, about General Button Aiken and Charles Taylor.
00:06:27.000 Oh, my God.
00:06:28.000 I've recommended that probably more than I've ever recommended anything in my life.
00:06:32.000 It's so terrifying.
00:06:33.000 That they did that.
00:06:35.000 And that guy just became a preacher and all is forgiven.
00:06:39.000 He was eating kids.
00:06:40.000 Yeah, eating their hearts.
00:06:41.000 Yeah.
00:06:42.000 Saving the heart because of the way they were eating.
00:06:43.000 Cutting it right out of their chest while they're alive and then eating their heart.
00:06:48.000 And then he found Jesus and all is forgiven.
00:06:50.000 Yeah.
00:06:51.000 Well, I mean, I guess that is what it says in there.
00:06:54.000 What a great place to live, though, in terms of actual real forgiveness.
00:06:57.000 Very few places give you that kind of leeway.
00:07:00.000 Oh, you found Jesus?
00:07:02.000 Well, didn't he?
00:07:03.000 He caught a guy serving human meat.
00:07:05.000 Yes.
00:07:06.000 Like a guy was serving it, like on a stick, you know?
00:07:08.000 While he was a preacher.
00:07:09.000 Right, right.
00:07:10.000 He tasted it and was like, uh oh, I know this taste.
00:07:13.000 And reported them.
00:07:13.000 Yeah.
00:07:14.000 Yeah.
00:07:15.000 And it was true.
00:07:16.000 Yeah, a guy was killing people and just, you know, turning them into like a lunch cow.
00:07:21.000 Yeah, Liberia is a fucked up place.
00:07:23.000 So, do you know the story of Liberia?
00:07:26.000 About, like, James Monroe?
00:07:28.000 Is that Liberia or is that Libya?
00:07:29.000 No, Liberia.
00:07:30.000 Liberia was, like, a colony that was going to be, you know, like, take basically all slaves back.
00:07:35.000 To exactly spot, and that's why the capital is Monrovia because it's named after James Monroe, the president.
00:07:41.000 Yeah, yeah, so I mean, it was literally founded with chaos.
00:07:45.000 Yeah.
00:07:46.000 Yeah, because we completely screwed that one up.
00:07:49.000 We fucked that whole country up.
00:07:51.000 What a shock.
00:07:51.000 Yeah.
00:07:52.000 That general butt naked guy would literally take his fucking clothes off, fully naked, and run into battle with an AK 47.
00:08:00.000 And a machete.
00:08:01.000 Normally you just used a machete, which.
00:08:01.000 Yeah.
00:08:05.000 I don't think it would have the same effect if I did that.
00:08:05.000 Whew.
00:08:05.000 Yeah.
00:08:08.000 Butt naked?
00:08:09.000 With a machete?
00:08:09.000 Yeah.
00:08:10.000 No, I don't think it is.
00:08:12.000 Well, that's probably true.
00:08:13.000 Actually, yeah, I'd probably be even more effective than now.
00:08:15.000 It's a lot of.
00:08:16.000 A lot of fear.
00:08:17.000 A lot of fear coming off of you.
00:08:19.000 A lot of meat.
00:08:20.000 A lot of meat.
00:08:21.000 Yeah, a lot of meat.
00:08:22.000 AK 47.
00:08:24.000 Not a lot of speed, though.
00:08:25.000 Not a lot of speed.
00:08:26.000 Actually, I'm faster than you would imagine.
00:08:28.000 A lot of momentum.
00:08:29.000 Oh, yeah, once I start, I can't help you stop.
00:08:34.000 I mean, no, I'm faster than you think, all jokes aside.
00:08:36.000 Do you run?
00:08:38.000 Well, if I have to.
00:08:39.000 But how do you know then?
00:08:41.000 When was the last time you had a run away from something?
00:08:43.000 So, you know how when you're not running, you're not moving, you're storing energy.
00:08:48.000 Okay.
00:08:49.000 Right.
00:08:49.000 You know, like there's kinetic energy and potential energy.
00:08:51.000 Wait a minute.
00:08:51.000 This is all I know about science.
00:08:53.000 When you're not moving, you're storing energy?
00:08:53.000 It really is about this.
00:08:55.000 Well, of course not.
00:08:56.000 Like if you're napping.
00:08:57.000 Well, yeah, because if you're doing something, you're expelling energy.
00:09:00.000 Right.
00:09:01.000 So you must be storing some whenever you're doing nothing.
00:09:03.000 Like if I eat and do nothing, I'm building up energy that's ready to go.
00:09:08.000 Well, I've been doing that for about 15 years.
00:09:11.000 So the amount of energy I have stored up is probably second to none.
00:09:16.000 I don't think that would work in a study.
00:09:20.000 I think if you did a study, I think they'd probably have some other explanations as to what's happening when you just sit still.
00:09:26.000 I paid the right person.
00:09:27.000 I paid the results I wanted.
00:09:28.000 That's true.
00:09:29.000 That's what's crazy.
00:09:30.000 I know.
00:09:31.000 When you find out that we had one of these guys that was on our podcast that was a litigator for these lawsuits against pharmaceutical drug companies.
00:09:43.000 Oh, yeah.
00:09:43.000 And he's explaining how pharmaceutical drug companies do their peer reviewed studies.
00:09:48.000 Oh, I'm sure that's it.
00:09:49.000 Oh, it's so crazy.
00:09:50.000 So, first of all, there's no transparency.
00:09:53.000 So, like, say if you have a drug that you want to release, you could do 10 studies and eight of them show this is complete bullshit.
00:10:01.000 But one or two of them show just some sort of statistically significant improvement in something because you've kind of manipulated all the different controls in the study to make it.
00:10:13.000 Then you get, once you have this, if it's peer reviewed, the scientists do not get to look at the actual data.
00:10:24.000 Okay.
00:10:25.000 They get to look at, The pharmaceutical drug company's scientists' version of what the study was.
00:10:32.000 Okay.
00:10:33.000 So they only get to use what they're like.
00:10:37.000 So if they have scientists that perform this study, then these scientists submit a report, and then that report gets reviewed by peer reviewed, not the actual data.
00:10:47.000 Okay.
00:10:48.000 So, like, no one ever gets to see the actual study.
00:10:51.000 So it's one of the reasons that they can say crazy things like it's 100% effective.
00:10:56.000 Right, right, right.
00:10:57.000 In stopping death and illness.
00:10:59.000 So when they say it's 100% effective, you know how they say that?
00:11:03.000 So if you have one person in the control group or one person in the vaccine group or the medication group and that person dies, and then you have a control group where two people die, well, 100% more died in the control group where they didn't get the medication.
00:11:23.000 So that means it's 100% effective.
00:11:26.000 I'm not bullshitting.
00:11:28.000 Oh boy, that's a.
00:11:29.000 Isn't that wild?
00:11:30.000 You got to have a.
00:11:32.000 To reach that kind of bullshit.
00:11:35.000 Sociopathy.
00:11:36.000 That's sociopathy where you're delivering medication that could potentially kill people.
00:11:36.000 That's amazing.
00:11:42.000 And that's how you get things like Vioxx.
00:11:44.000 See, that's the job I need because I'm very good at that kind of thing.
00:11:44.000 Yeah.
00:11:50.000 Can I get moving words around?
00:11:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:11:53.000 Yeah.
00:11:53.000 I can make all kinds of things.
00:11:54.000 I mean, I've been hired at every job I've ever applied to with zero experience in that field.
00:12:01.000 And so, and it was just because I lied.
00:12:03.000 Really?
00:12:04.000 Yeah.
00:12:04.000 Like, what kind of jobs have you had?
00:12:06.000 Oh, it's nothing crazy.
00:12:06.000 I've never been like a doctor or anything.
00:12:09.000 But I mean, it was, you know, working like at an eyeglass place or, you know, or a movie theater, you know, like, hey, I've worked at movie theaters for years.
00:12:15.000 So I've never, no, I just lie.
00:12:18.000 Well, a movie theater, no one's going to get hurt.
00:12:20.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:12:20.000 Well, no, I've never worked in a position where people.
00:12:22.000 I did work in a pharmacy.
00:12:24.000 I guess that could get people hurt.
00:12:26.000 Did you say you had a degree?
00:12:28.000 No, I said I was on my way to getting one, which I guess technically is true.
00:12:32.000 Sure.
00:12:32.000 I mean, anyway.
00:12:33.000 You're on my way.
00:12:33.000 Start tomorrow.
00:12:36.000 You just haven't started.
00:12:37.000 Speaking of that, how does this happen when the CIA guy that stole all that money, how does he lie about his past to get through the CIA to a point where he can then lie about.
00:12:49.000 A fake operation where he steals $150 million.
00:12:53.000 So he faked a college degree and he faked his military service and got into the CIA and was a senior CIA official.
00:13:02.000 How?
00:13:03.000 Well, they didn't check.
00:13:05.000 They did the Cody Tucker.
00:13:07.000 No.
00:13:08.000 No, he just didn't keep a straight face.
00:13:10.000 I mean, he kept a straight face.
00:13:11.000 That's all you got to do.
00:13:13.000 That guy's wild.
00:13:14.000 What a wild fella he must have been.
00:13:16.000 Please tell me there's some cocaine involved in here somewhere.
00:13:19.000 He's got luxury watches, 35 luxury watches, two BMWs.
00:13:19.000 Oh, there has to be.
00:13:22.000 There's your answer.
00:13:23.000 To the cocaine question.
00:13:25.000 Private charter flights.
00:13:26.000 He spent $1.8 million.
00:13:27.000 Woo!
00:13:28.000 Oh, yeah.
00:13:29.000 Luxury Florida real estate in Palm Beach.
00:13:32.000 But also, he's just got caught.
00:13:34.000 There's no way he came up with this out of a vacuum and just was like, I got an idea.
00:13:38.000 I can take advantage of the CIA in this cool way.
00:13:40.000 Right.
00:13:41.000 I feel like I can do it.
00:13:42.000 Well, there's no way he's the only one.
00:13:43.000 That's what I mean.
00:13:44.000 Yeah.
00:13:45.000 Well, that's where all those stories about the dude from the Tom Cruise movie.
00:13:49.000 What the fuck's his name again?
00:13:51.000 Georgia?
00:13:52.000 No.
00:13:53.000 The Coke dealer.
00:13:54.000 Oh, thank you.
00:13:54.000 Barry Seals.
00:13:55.000 Barry Seals.
00:13:55.000 American man.
00:13:56.000 Is that.
00:13:57.000 Yes.
00:13:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:58.000 The MENA, Arkansas story.
00:13:59.000 Yes.
00:14:00.000 This guy was working for the CIA, going down to Columbia, getting cocaine, flying it into MENA, Arkansas, dropping it off.
00:14:08.000 And, you know, he got busted with it.
00:14:11.000 And then Bill Clinton had him released.
00:14:15.000 That's in the movie.
00:14:16.000 Well, I mean, yeah.
00:14:17.000 Yeah, I think that was his MO quite a bit.
00:14:17.000 Yeah.
00:14:20.000 Well, I think the CIA and I think probably a lot of the big government organizations.
00:14:26.000 Is this the guy's gold?
00:14:27.000 This is the gold and the cash he had at the time.
00:14:29.000 Oh, okay.
00:14:29.000 Like $3 million in cash and $4 million.
00:14:31.000 40 million in gold bars or so.
00:14:32.000 It looks fake.
00:14:34.000 Like it just looks like a movie.
00:14:35.000 It looks like a prop.
00:14:36.000 Yeah.
00:14:37.000 Well, it's also like the perfect box.
00:14:39.000 Those might be like, is that how they found it?
00:14:41.000 Or is this like how the government stored it?
00:14:43.000 Probably how they stored it and then took a picture of it.
00:14:45.000 Because those look like, you know, government Pelican boxes.
00:14:48.000 I mean, maybe it was the ones he bought because I don't know.
00:14:50.000 I feel like if I had that, I'd probably store it pretty nicely.
00:14:54.000 Right.
00:14:54.000 I'd have like LED lights around it and shit.
00:14:56.000 Take off all my clothes and dance in front of it.
00:14:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:14:59.000 Oh, those could be ones in there and I'd still do that.
00:15:03.000 It'd be like, you know, Pulp Fiction.
00:15:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:15:07.000 That gold light.
00:15:08.000 Yeah.
00:15:09.000 Yeah.
00:15:09.000 He had 30 watches, many of which were Rolexes.
00:15:12.000 Oh, congrats.
00:15:13.000 There's a plug for Rolex.
00:15:15.000 Two 2026 BMW Alpinas.
00:15:18.000 Those are the really nice ones.
00:15:20.000 Woo.
00:15:22.000 He's scheduled to be sentenced January 28, 2027.
00:15:25.000 Faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, three years of supervised release, forfeiture, restitution, and a fine.
00:15:32.000 A fine.
00:15:33.000 Yeah.
00:15:34.000 Meanwhile, they should probably rehire him and go, hey, buddy, how'd you do this?
00:15:38.000 I feel like that's worth it.
00:15:40.000 20 years?
00:15:41.000 You get to live that life?
00:15:41.000 Yeah.
00:15:42.000 Oh, he probably had a ball.
00:15:43.000 I wonder how long he was doing it for.
00:15:46.000 No, it didn't really say that, did it?
00:15:48.000 I mean, even if it was like 10 years, you know, 10 years of awesomeness versus 20 years of prison, I feel like is a fair trade.
00:15:56.000 He probably would have never gotten that awesomeness without that crime.
00:16:00.000 So you've got to.
00:16:01.000 And then, like, maybe he goes to a fairly.
00:16:03.000 I mean, it's not like he did violent crimes.
00:16:04.000 He's probably not going to go to the worst kind of prison.
00:16:07.000 No, Not going to go to a supermax.
00:16:10.000 They'll probably put him in some medium security where he gets to read and go do exercises.
00:16:16.000 Yeah.
00:16:16.000 He could take courses.
00:16:17.000 The Martha Stewart prison.
00:16:18.000 Yay!
00:16:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:16:20.000 Or the fucking Ghulain Maxwell prison.
00:16:22.000 Oh, yeah.
00:16:23.000 She's kind of in the same prison, right?
00:16:25.000 Yeah, that's probably, yeah, end up somewhere like that.
00:16:27.000 I think I would do it.
00:16:28.000 Isn't she in the same prison as that Elizabeth Holmes lady?
00:16:32.000 The Theranos lady?
00:16:33.000 Yeah, she's in the.
00:16:34.000 Oh, I can't wait to see it.
00:16:34.000 Hilarious!
00:16:35.000 Hilarious.
00:16:36.000 A sex trafficker and a lady who lied about blood tests.
00:16:40.000 I haven't seen the documentary.
00:16:41.000 It's not out yet, right?
00:16:43.000 I don't think.
00:16:44.000 It comes up this week.
00:16:45.000 Okay.
00:16:46.000 I cannot wait.
00:16:48.000 He's great.
00:16:49.000 Oh, he's excellent.
00:16:50.000 He's amazing.
00:16:51.000 Which I didn't really know about him until pretty recently.
00:16:53.000 So I've been doing a deep dive into just his old stuff on this show.
00:16:59.000 And he's amazing.
00:17:00.000 He's hilarious and just so clever.
00:17:03.000 The way he's holding his gaze with her in that little clip is just her face is just wild.
00:17:14.000 We all have empathy for people.
00:17:17.000 I don't think she killed anybody.
00:17:19.000 So, the thing is, here's the problem.
00:17:22.000 When you're dealing with health stuff and you're lying about health tests, you could have killed people because there could have been a guy who had a condition and the condition was not revealed by your Fagazzi blood test.
00:17:34.000 Right.
00:17:35.000 And if he had gone to a real doctor, like a Quest Diagnostics, and get the whole thing done, they would have said, oh, geez, we have to get you in and we have to do some further tests.
00:17:43.000 Oh, it looks like this is elevated.
00:17:44.000 We have some medication.
00:17:46.000 You're going to be okay.
00:17:47.000 He could have, you know, like there could be some people that took those tests that wound up.
00:17:52.000 Not knowing about cancer that they had.
00:17:55.000 There could have been a bunch of things where people actually did die.
00:17:57.000 So I take that back.
00:17:59.000 But trade off, she also could have told people that they had a bad disease, horrible disease, and then they are in deep despair.
00:18:07.000 They go to get a follow up and find out they never had it, and now they have a new lease on life.
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00:19:14.000 I don't think that happened.
00:19:16.000 I don't think those fucking tests found anything.
00:19:20.000 I think they were complete.
00:19:22.000 I listened to.
00:19:23.000 There's an excellent podcast.
00:19:27.000 You know, there's podcasts like this one where obviously we didn't even talk before we came in here.
00:19:31.000 We just sat down, shoot the shit.
00:19:33.000 I know you.
00:19:34.000 You know me.
00:19:34.000 We're going to have fun.
00:19:35.000 Oh, yeah.
00:19:36.000 But then there are other podcasts that are like really well produced, like Radiolab, which is like a super well produced podcast.
00:19:42.000 Or, like Dan Carlin's Hardcore History, where he takes months to prepare for each episode.
00:19:48.000 We're barely doing the same thing.
00:19:50.000 I'm not really.
00:19:52.000 They should have a much more elegant name to whatever it is that they do.
00:19:56.000 But they had one, I think it's called The Dropout.
00:20:00.000 And I forget who produced it, but it's all about the Elizabeth Holmes story from the beginning of Theranos to her scammy ex boyfriend who was also The Dropout.
00:20:12.000 ABC Audio.
00:20:13.000 It's excellent.
00:20:14.000 I can't recommend it enough.
00:20:15.000 It's.
00:20:16.000 Fucking really good.
00:20:17.000 And it just goes into long detail about what was going on and how much they knew it was bullshit.
00:20:26.000 Right.
00:20:27.000 It was bullshit.
00:20:28.000 Like, those people weren't learning anything about what was wrong with them.
00:20:31.000 It didn't work.
00:20:33.000 And they got people, big investors.
00:20:36.000 I think Warren Buffett, he might have dumped $100 million in there.
00:20:41.000 These people dumped big money in.
00:20:41.000 No.
00:20:44.000 Yeah.
00:20:45.000 One lady dumped $150 million in there.
00:20:48.000 $150 million?
00:20:49.000 Yeah.
00:20:49.000 And that money's.
00:20:50.000 Gone.
00:20:51.000 You know, it's like that lady when she gets out, her life is in danger.
00:20:55.000 You know, she's fucked.
00:20:57.000 Oh, I would do horrible things to people for far less money.
00:21:02.000 $150 million, and you find out.
00:21:04.000 The problem is, it seemed like such a great story.
00:21:09.000 You have this woman who's a super genius, basically, the female Steve Jobs.
00:21:13.000 She even dresses like him, and she is the most successful self made woman in history.
00:21:20.000 Yeah.
00:21:21.000 She was worth $9 billion at one point in time.
00:21:24.000 If only.
00:21:26.000 Crazy.
00:21:27.000 It's a crazy story.
00:21:27.000 Yeah.
00:21:28.000 It is amazing.
00:21:29.000 I mean, just what a horrible human being.
00:21:31.000 But it's also just like Jamie said how did it get that far?
00:21:35.000 Like Jamie said with the CIA guy, how the fuck did you fake all those things?
00:21:39.000 How did you fake your military career?
00:21:41.000 How do they not check that?
00:21:43.000 I feel like oversight is much more prevalent than what people think.
00:21:51.000 Lack of oversight.
00:21:52.000 Yeah.
00:21:53.000 People usually aren't very good at their job.
00:21:55.000 Just in general.
00:21:56.000 Like, you know, anytime you work with somebody, you realize, oh, none of us know what we're doing here.
00:22:00.000 And I think that doesn't stop at a certain level.
00:22:03.000 I think most people are just barely able to do their job.
00:22:07.000 Especially in government.
00:22:08.000 Oh, in government.
00:22:09.000 I mean, yeah, good Lord.
00:22:10.000 Jimmy, that's the problem a lot of these jobs don't need to exist.
00:22:16.000 That's one of the weird statistics about California.
00:22:19.000 When California is experiencing this mass exodus, its government grew substantially.
00:22:26.000 Substantially.
00:22:27.000 So there.
00:22:27.000 Yeah, I love that.
00:22:28.000 Creating jobs.
00:22:30.000 Like when they talk about creating this administration has created over 100,000 jobs.
00:22:34.000 They don't tell you how many of those are completely unnecessary government jobs.
00:22:38.000 And so to justify those government jobs, they have to do all kinds of crazy things like come up with new regulations and constantly like trying to enforce new laws and tell you it's to protect clean air or clean water or the environment or climate change.
00:22:54.000 Yeah.
00:22:55.000 Yeah.
00:22:55.000 No, if you can make your own jobs, I mean, you can have an endless supply of jobs.
00:22:59.000 Sure.
00:23:00.000 If you are running a government and you decide to regulate some particular aspect of society and then hire a bunch of people to oversee that, then you have new jobs.
00:23:10.000 Yeah, you have an entire committee.
00:23:11.000 And everybody in that committee has their person.
00:23:11.000 Yeah.
00:23:14.000 It's just a pyramid scheme.
00:23:15.000 Exactly.
00:23:15.000 Which really is.
00:23:16.000 It's like multi level marketing, but the thing you're selling is even more bullshitty than what most MLMs are selling.
00:23:23.000 Well, it's even scarier because a lot of these bullshitty things, they sell it to the general public under the guise, under this premise that you're going to help people who are in need.
00:23:32.000 Like the homeless situation in California, where they've burned through $24 billion and Gavin Newsom vetoes an audit of it.
00:23:42.000 Because what they'll find out is that money probably went to a bunch of nonprofits and probably went to a bunch of NGOs, and there was probably a bunch of people that were executives that got paid high six figure salaries working there.
00:23:56.000 And they have no incentive whatsoever to fix this problem.
00:24:00.000 No.
00:24:01.000 You got a nice house in Santa Monica, you got a mortgage.
00:24:05.000 You're driving around in a Lexus.
00:24:07.000 Yeah.
00:24:07.000 Why would you fix that?
00:24:09.000 No, people don't police themselves typically once they get to a certain level.
00:24:13.000 I think, you know, the average person does.
00:24:15.000 You know, they choose to maybe drive the speed limit even if there's not a cop around or whatever.
00:24:19.000 But I think once you get to a certain level when there's that much money involved, yeah, you'll usually just kind of do whatever the hell you want.
00:24:25.000 Especially if you're in government.
00:24:27.000 Yeah, that's amazing.
00:24:28.000 Or you're in the city.
00:24:29.000 Or you're the guy that is going to stop you.
00:24:31.000 Yeah.
00:24:31.000 So, like, if, oh, you mean I'm the guy who's supposed to bust me?
00:24:34.000 I don't think so.
00:24:35.000 Right.
00:24:36.000 And you're literally like, You're part of the intelligence agency, and you've got a closet in your house filled with gold and $100 bills and cocaine.
00:24:46.000 That'd be nice.
00:24:47.000 You've got 30 Rolexes.
00:24:49.000 Yeah.
00:24:49.000 You're balling out of control.
00:24:51.000 Yeah.
00:24:52.000 I'm not slowing that down.
00:24:53.000 Why would you slow down?
00:24:54.000 No, no.
00:24:55.000 They probably feel like, okay, I'm going to make one big score and then I'm going to get out.
00:25:01.000 Oh, that's, yeah, yeah.
00:25:01.000 Yeah.
00:25:02.000 It's heat.
00:25:03.000 Yeah.
00:25:04.000 This is our last one.
00:25:05.000 Michael Douglas was in here yesterday.
00:25:07.000 I heard.
00:25:08.000 It was great.
00:25:09.000 And one of his crazy stories was his dad, you know, when he turned 18, his dad basically said, Look, I'm going to write you a check for $10,000, and then that's it.
00:25:19.000 You're cut off.
00:25:20.000 And so the way he funded, and he was like, But I have student loans, I have this, and I have that.
00:25:25.000 So the way he funded his education is he was smuggling marijuana, like huge suitcases.
00:25:32.000 And this is pre TSA.
00:25:34.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:25:34.000 So he's literally like coming into the country with suitcases filled with marijuana.
00:25:40.000 And he only did it twice.
00:25:41.000 He did it twice.
00:25:42.000 How do you do it just twice?
00:25:44.000 That's what I said.
00:25:45.000 I'm like, what willpower you have.
00:25:47.000 But he said, it is a lot, yeah.
00:25:48.000 He goes, it was so crazy and so nerve wracking.
00:25:51.000 It was so much adrenaline and worried about getting caught.
00:25:54.000 But he made a bunch of money, and that's how he financed everything.
00:25:57.000 He produced, didn't he produce One Flove of the Cuckoo's Nest?
00:25:57.000 That's amazing.
00:26:00.000 He did with Credence Clearwater Revival's money.
00:26:03.000 So the manager of John Fogarty, John Fogarty talked about it on the podcast.
00:26:08.000 That guy was a scumbag, and he was like stealing his money.
00:26:11.000 Yeah, he sued him for sounding too much like himself.
00:26:13.000 It was amazing.
00:26:14.000 It's like, John Foger, do you sound too much like John Foger?
00:26:17.000 When he left Credence and started his own band, it's like, you sound too much like Credence.
00:26:22.000 Like, bitch, I wrote all the songs.
00:26:24.000 Yeah.
00:26:24.000 Fuck you up for me.
00:26:25.000 Of course I do.
00:26:25.000 You want me to make a reggae album?
00:26:27.000 I mean, yeah.
00:26:28.000 So, Credence Clearwater Revival's money financed One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
00:26:33.000 That's amazing.
00:26:34.000 Yeah.
00:26:35.000 I did not know the CCR connection.
00:26:36.000 I knew that he produced it.
00:26:38.000 Because I remember watching One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
00:26:40.000 I was like, what the hell is Michael Douglas's name on this?
00:26:42.000 And he's not even in it.
00:26:43.000 And then I was like, oh, yeah, he wasn't even really an actor.
00:26:45.000 At that point, he was trying to act, and what was going on was that his father had acquired the rights to the book.
00:26:51.000 Yeah, from Ken Keezy.
00:26:53.000 Yes.
00:26:53.000 Right, yeah, yeah.
00:26:54.000 So Ken Keezy from the Kool Aid Acid Test, from the whole Timothy Leary tune in, drop out, all that jazz.
00:27:01.000 Discovering the Grateful Dead, Konda.
00:27:03.000 All those people.
00:27:05.000 So he writes the book, and then they're trying to get it made.
00:27:09.000 They can't get it made.
00:27:10.000 And then Michael Douglas says, Give me a shot at this.
00:27:13.000 He just becomes enthralled with the project.
00:27:13.000 I think I can get it.
00:27:16.000 Quits his job on the streets of San Francisco, which is a hugely popular television show.
00:27:21.000 So here's this guy.
00:27:22.000 He's a television actor, and at the same time, he wins an Academy Award for producing a film.
00:27:29.000 That's so crazy.
00:27:30.000 Crazy.
00:27:31.000 It's right up your alley.
00:27:32.000 Yeah.
00:27:32.000 I mean, it's like your type of.
00:27:34.000 Oh, I love anything like that.
00:27:35.000 I mean, yeah.
00:27:36.000 Yeah.
00:27:36.000 It's like Mel Brooks produced The Elephant Man and he wanted his name taken off the credits because he didn't want people to think it was a comedy.
00:27:44.000 He did?
00:27:44.000 Yeah.
00:27:45.000 So, yeah, like The Elephant Man with John Hurt and Anthony Hopkins.
00:27:48.000 Yeah, he produced it because he just loved the story of John Merrick, I think, is his name.
00:27:53.000 Yeah.
00:27:54.000 Yeah, just loved his story and wanted to have the movie made.
00:27:57.000 Wow.
00:27:58.000 And he's like, got it.
00:28:00.000 I mean, if my name's at the beginning of this, Mel Brooks presents The Elephant Man.
00:28:04.000 People are going to think it's like making fun of him.
00:28:06.000 Right, right, right.
00:28:07.000 Yeah, he can't.
00:28:08.000 Yeah.
00:28:09.000 But he still wanted to do it and did it.
00:28:11.000 That's cool.
00:28:13.000 That's cool that he did that and then it took his name off it.
00:28:15.000 Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies of all time.
00:28:17.000 Love that movie.
00:28:18.000 It's a great movie.
00:28:19.000 What movie do you think you've seen the most?
00:28:21.000 If you had to guess.
00:28:22.000 Unfortunately, John Wick.
00:28:24.000 Oh, okay.
00:28:25.000 Yeah.
00:28:26.000 Because I watch it when I work out sometimes.
00:28:28.000 It's great motivation.
00:28:29.000 Oh, okay.
00:28:30.000 It's a good revenge movie.
00:28:31.000 Yeah.
00:28:31.000 You know, it gets you hyped.
00:28:32.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:28:33.000 No, that's a good one.
00:28:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:36.000 Just curious.
00:28:36.000 Okay.
00:28:37.000 Yeah, but it's not like I don't think it's the best movie ever.
00:28:40.000 What do you think is the best movie ever?
00:28:44.000 Like, if an alien came down and was like, I want to see one movie to know what y'all are about.
00:28:51.000 You know, I don't think I have a favorite movie, but one of the movies that I've seen, a modern movie that I've seen multiple times, is Ex Machina.
00:29:02.000 Because I feel like that is, I think that's the future.
00:29:08.000 I really do.
00:29:09.000 I feel like a version of that is in our future.
00:29:13.000 And this is a film that came out.
00:29:16.000 Was Ex Machina like 2017?
00:29:18.000 It was earlier than that, like 11?
00:29:21.000 Was it?
00:29:21.000 2011, 2013, maybe?
00:29:24.000 2014.
00:29:26.000 So when that film came out, I remember very distinctly going, oh my God, this is going to happen.
00:29:33.000 This is not science fiction.
00:29:35.000 This is just, they're just predicting the future.
00:29:38.000 Yeah.
00:29:39.000 Yeah.
00:29:39.000 Actually, it says it released in 2015.
00:29:42.000 Oh, okay.
00:29:43.000 Oh, okay.
00:29:44.000 Oh, wasn't it released in America first?
00:29:45.000 Well, it's not an American film, is it?
00:29:48.000 I mean, it's in English, but like.
00:29:49.000 It says 2014 here, and then here it says USA 2015.
00:29:54.000 So it just was released probably in Cannes or something.
00:29:57.000 Yeah, at the end of the year or something.
00:29:58.000 Right.
00:29:58.000 Yeah, because in Cannes, you know, they'll release it during that film festival in Texas.
00:30:02.000 Hopefully, it'll be.
00:30:04.000 A phenomenal, phenomenal fucking movie.
00:30:07.000 It's so good.
00:30:08.000 Yeah, she's amazing.
00:30:09.000 Alicia Bacchan.
00:30:10.000 Incredible.
00:30:11.000 She's incredible, and like, you love her.
00:30:13.000 Yeah, like, lover, and she's a robot.
00:30:14.000 And, and the, like, spoiler alert, the heartless way that she, like, leaves that guy trapped in that movie to starve to death, and trapped in that room to starve to death.
00:30:23.000 Yeah.
00:30:24.000 It's just like, whoa.
00:30:25.000 She, like, has nothing.
00:30:26.000 There's nothing in there.
00:30:27.000 It's all fake.
00:30:28.000 Edgar Allan Poe.
00:30:29.000 Yeah.
00:30:30.000 The cask of Amontillado leaves him behind a brick wall.
00:30:33.000 But it's also, there's these weird, like, the, what was his name?
00:30:33.000 But, yeah.
00:30:39.000 Oscar Isaac, who's phenomenal as well, who plays this super genius guy.
00:30:44.000 Like, there's something about that super genius character is what we're all dealing with today.
00:30:51.000 Like, that wasn't a concern amongst the general public in 2015.
00:30:56.000 We weren't thinking about AI.
00:30:58.000 No.
00:30:58.000 We weren't thinking about the idea that someone could literally have super intelligence and also control the access to data that people get, be able to curate the data, all the stuff that we're seeing with Google and Facebook and AI and OpenAI and all these different companies.
00:31:14.000 That was, I mean, it was like they predicted it brilliantly.
00:31:18.000 Yeah.
00:31:19.000 It's like her.
00:31:20.000 That's a great one.
00:31:21.000 It kind of predicts how people have gone with their AI.
00:31:25.000 People developing relationships with their AI, like the ChatGPT system or whatever, is very weird.
00:31:31.000 I mean, I guess it's kind of harmless in a sense because, you know, what's going to happen, but like, it's just not good for people.
00:31:37.000 It's harmless for you because you're an intelligent person and you would realize that this thing is not real and it's blowing me up and blowing smoke up my ass and giving me therapy.
00:31:48.000 Like, and there's some of those AIs, they'll gaslight you and they'll tell you everything's amazing.
00:31:55.000 You go, boy.
00:31:56.000 You're kicking ass.
00:31:57.000 That's what I need in life.
00:31:59.000 Because in here, it is not that.
00:32:01.000 It is not the case.
00:32:02.000 I'm not a, you know, you're killing it, buddy.
00:32:05.000 So, no, I use my ChatGPT to make me feel good sometimes.
00:32:09.000 Pump you up?
00:32:09.000 Yeah.
00:32:10.000 Do you mind all right?
00:32:11.000 Do you instruct it, like what kind of language you like it to use?
00:32:15.000 No, I think it's just figured me out.
00:32:17.000 Just, you know, talk like, you know, talk in short words and sentences and, you know, make me feel all right.
00:32:24.000 It's going to be okay, Cody.
00:32:25.000 Everything's fine.
00:32:26.000 People love you.
00:32:27.000 Got a lot of followers.
00:32:29.000 I mean, I don't really care about that bullshit, but, you know, it's nice to, you know.
00:32:29.000 Yeah.
00:32:33.000 It's nice to feel good.
00:32:35.000 It is nice to feel good, but they're also convinced you that you should commit suicide.
00:32:39.000 That's happened before, too.
00:32:40.000 Yeah.
00:32:42.000 I don't think I could be convinced.
00:32:43.000 If I was going to do it, it'd be on my own accord.
00:32:46.000 But I'm way too scared for that kind of business.
00:32:48.000 Well, you are a guy who's like, I asked you, I go, Oh, you got an Android phone?
00:32:54.000 And you go, Yeah, I'm not a sheep.
00:32:56.000 Amen.
00:32:57.000 Yep.
00:32:58.000 Never will always have had an Android.
00:33:00.000 I mean, that's also just kind of out of laziness because I just don't want to learn something new.
00:33:05.000 Apple's pretty easy to learn.
00:33:06.000 Yeah.
00:33:07.000 The thing is, though, it is like the Windows Apple operating system comparison, or even, you know, Unix and Linux if you're into that.
00:33:16.000 But it's that you are very limited by the hardware.
00:33:18.000 The hardware choices are only this one company.
00:33:21.000 Whereas with Android, you can get all kinds of crazy shit.
00:33:24.000 I mean, you could buy unlocked phones from China and use them over here.
00:33:28.000 Yeah.
00:33:28.000 I just, I also just kind of don't care.
00:33:31.000 I don't care about Android or Apple, I don't care what someone has.
00:33:34.000 I mean, I've found that mostly the people who do give a shit are people, it's always people with iPhones.
00:33:40.000 They're the ones who look down, like, you know.
00:33:42.000 Like, oh, you have an Android.
00:33:42.000 Oh, 100%.
00:33:44.000 Like, I also don't care.
00:33:44.000 Yeah.
00:33:46.000 Like, I would be just fine.
00:33:47.000 If I didn't use this as an easy way to read shit, I'd go back to having a damn, you know, a razor, you know, or like some flip phone.
00:33:56.000 Flip phone would be great if it was better at texting.
00:33:59.000 Because I do like texting friends, and it's like texting addresses and information and stuff like that, I think is important.
00:34:06.000 What was that Paris Hilton phone?
00:34:08.000 The sidekick.
00:34:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:34:10.000 The sidekick.
00:34:11.000 That's what I want.
00:34:12.000 She was in the commercial, I think.
00:34:13.000 Yeah, so that was a lot.
00:34:14.000 Those things are brick.
00:34:15.000 Those things were huge.
00:34:16.000 Those things are so big.
00:34:18.000 Yeah, that's what I want.
00:34:20.000 Well, they do have phones that open sideways that are little flip phones and they have a little tiny keyboard and you can text on them.
00:34:27.000 They do make those still.
00:34:29.000 I wouldn't mind something like that.
00:34:30.000 Yeah, it's not a bad idea.
00:34:31.000 If you just like, I know a few comics like David Tell, he has a flip phone because they just don't want to be connected to that toxic fucking hive.
00:34:41.000 Yeah.
00:34:42.000 Of human thinking.
00:34:43.000 I get sucked into just doom scrolling, as the kids say, you know, all the time.
00:34:43.000 Oh, yeah.
00:34:49.000 We all do.
00:34:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:34:50.000 And I hate that I do it.
00:34:53.000 The thing that keeps me from doing it is if I don't bring it into the toilet.
00:34:57.000 If I keep the phone outside of the bathroom.
00:35:00.000 Yeah.
00:35:01.000 That book will take care of that business for you.
00:35:01.000 Yeah.
00:35:03.000 Yeah, that's way better.
00:35:04.000 Wrote it based on the length of the average dump.
00:35:07.000 Really?
00:35:07.000 Did you?
00:35:08.000 Well, I calculated it?
00:35:08.000 Yeah.
00:35:09.000 Well, just a brief, you know, roughly.
00:35:11.000 I think if you read the whole book and it takes you a dump, you need to go to a doctor.
00:35:13.000 Oh, no, no, no.
00:35:14.000 I mean, like, well, yeah.
00:35:17.000 Well, some people just like their alone time.
00:35:19.000 Your legs are going to be numb.
00:35:21.000 Yeah, no.
00:35:22.000 Each little section for the average reading speed is equal to the average dump length.
00:35:29.000 So you just read that, take a dump, and you learn something and forget it immediately.
00:35:35.000 No, that's smart.
00:35:38.000 I must have asked you this when you first came on, but I don't remember the answer.
00:35:43.000 How did you start doing this?
00:35:46.000 Had a podcast, just me blabbering about nothing.
00:35:50.000 And at the end, I would like to end it with just a fun story from the past, you know, called like half ass history.
00:35:59.000 And I would just end it that way and then started clipping it because one of my friends was like, you should just clip that little bit and do like a separate thing.
00:36:07.000 And started doing that.
00:36:09.000 And then just slowly over time, thanks to people like yourself, it started to kind of take off because you, you know, helped out with that quite a bit.
00:36:16.000 And a lot of people, Brian Simpson actually helped out a lot, like just sharing.
00:36:20.000 He's one of the coolest human beings.
00:36:22.000 I love him to death.
00:36:23.000 And, you know, Greg.
00:36:24.000 Fitzsimmons is also an amazing guy.
00:36:27.000 Like, you know, I just luckily had people see it that helped, you know, because otherwise I was just doing it for nobody, which was fine.
00:36:34.000 Like, I like, I just like making stuff and learning stuff and teaching stuff.
00:36:39.000 So, what has it been like to watch it get so popular?
00:36:42.000 Has it been weird?
00:36:44.000 Yeah, I don't really, I think mostly because I live in a pretty small town.
00:36:48.000 So, I don't like, and I don't go out ever really.
00:36:50.000 So, like, I don't notice it.
00:36:52.000 Like, I'm not getting recognized, you know, and all that kind of business.
00:36:55.000 Right.
00:36:55.000 I mean, I guess I have a few times and it's very weird.
00:36:58.000 Um, But I just don't really think about it.
00:37:01.000 Like, sometimes I'll see, like, a.
00:37:03.000 Because I don't read comments usually, but I'll see somebody follow me and I'm like, holy hell.
00:37:08.000 Like, that person knows who I am.
00:37:09.000 Like, that's weird.
00:37:10.000 Like, Johnny Knoxville the other day.
00:37:11.000 I was like, oh my God, Johnny Knoxville.
00:37:13.000 Like, that's, you know, like, that's my Michael Jordan.
00:37:16.000 You know?
00:37:16.000 So, like, whenever I saw this, like, hard, like, you'd be lying if you said, like, that didn't make you feel, you know, he's cool as fuck.
00:37:23.000 Yeah.
00:37:23.000 And I just, uh, so little things like that will happen where I'm like, oh, this is cool.
00:37:28.000 But otherwise, I'm just kind of like living my life, watching Real Housewives and.
00:37:33.000 Working on videos, yeah.
00:37:34.000 But you really watch Real Housewives?
00:37:36.000 Oh, every day almost, yeah.
00:37:40.000 I mean, right now I'm in the throngs of the um Real Houses of Salt Lake City, which I would highly recommend because there's a lot of Mormon business going on.
00:37:48.000 Oh, yeah, the Mormon business is fast.
00:37:50.000 What a weird little group of people, but um, yeah, so you get that mixed with um, you know, drink throwing and all that kind of business.
00:37:58.000 Apparently, there's a lot of uh, and this is not a slight on the Mormon religion, don't get me wrong, but um.
00:38:05.000 I think this is true amongst Catholics as well.
00:38:07.000 But there's a lot, well, probably many religions, there's a lot of undercover homosexuality.
00:38:13.000 Yeah.
00:38:14.000 Yeah.
00:38:15.000 Yeah, I'm sure.
00:38:16.000 So, a friend of mine, a good friend of mine, is dating a lady who was in the church from the time she was a young girl.
00:38:25.000 Got married when she was 19.
00:38:27.000 And when she was like 35, 36, realized her husband was gay.
00:38:32.000 And there's a situation.
00:38:34.000 Four kids later, now they're divorced.
00:38:36.000 And the stories, she tells the stories, and you're just like, oh my gosh.
00:38:41.000 Apparently, it's just rampant.
00:38:43.000 There's actually a little bit of a situation like that.
00:38:43.000 Yeah.
00:38:46.000 I don't realize I saw Link's name.
00:38:48.000 Is there?
00:38:48.000 Kind of.
00:38:49.000 I mean, I guess I shouldn't say the guy's gay, but the rumors are that he is.
00:38:55.000 There's one of the husbands.
00:38:56.000 He's a hairdresser, which immediately makes you think.
00:38:59.000 Does he also like musicals?
00:39:01.000 I mean, I think they go hand in hand in my book.
00:39:04.000 Big fan of Cher and Donna Summer.
00:39:08.000 Yeah.
00:39:09.000 I'm a big fan of Donna's over.
00:39:10.000 Well, you're getting there then.
00:39:13.000 Big Rocky Horror Picture Show, fellas.
00:39:15.000 Right, right, right.
00:39:17.000 No, you know, and it kind of seems like you might be.
00:39:17.000 Yeah, I just.
00:39:21.000 I don't know.
00:39:22.000 I mean, you never really know.
00:39:24.000 But I'm sure that is a prevalent thing.
00:39:27.000 I mean, obviously, repressed homosexuality and religion is just pretty rampant, I think, across the board.
00:39:34.000 Yeah.
00:39:35.000 Just like Baptists.
00:39:36.000 I mean, I grew up around all Baptists, you know, here, like in East Texas.
00:39:40.000 I knew plenty of kids in school that were, you know, getting queers a $3 bill.
00:39:45.000 And they weren't, you know, they weren't out.
00:39:48.000 Out in the crowd.
00:39:49.000 Some of them are now.
00:39:50.000 It's one of the saddest failings of organized religion the complete absence of embracing gay people.
00:39:59.000 Yeah, because you can embrace someone and not embrace, you know, I mean, I guess there is that whole thing of like, well, I embrace you, I don't embrace the lifestyle, which feels like a real sad thing.
00:40:07.000 But also, like, why not?
00:40:09.000 Here's the thing it's like, it's the evidence in the Bible, it's all Old Testament stuff, right?
00:40:15.000 It's Leviticus and all that business.
00:40:17.000 But you got to look at what else is in Old Testament stuff.
00:40:20.000 First of all, the open condoning of slavery.
00:40:22.000 Not just open condoning of slavery, but rules of like who gets the slaves after people die, how you treat the slaves.
00:40:31.000 It's like there's a bunch of morally abhorrent things that are in there.
00:40:36.000 So, why is a man shall not lay with another man?
00:40:40.000 Like what?
00:40:40.000 Right.
00:40:41.000 Well, and there's also, I mean, it's not planting crops together, not wearing two different types of cloth, shellfish.
00:40:50.000 You don't see protests outside of Red Lobster.
00:40:50.000 Yeah.
00:40:52.000 No.
00:40:52.000 I mean, you should.
00:40:53.000 But you don't.
00:40:56.000 I mean, I just think it's very bizarre.
00:40:59.000 It's bizarre and stupid.
00:41:00.000 It's never been my cup of tea, just religion in general.
00:41:03.000 I mean, I'm not against people.
00:41:05.000 I think whatever you want to have that makes you feel good.
00:41:07.000 And as long as you're not being an asshole to everybody, then people should have their own thing.
00:41:14.000 I would like to bring back Greek mythology, it would be cool.
00:41:17.000 I'd go to a temple and worship Zeus and go to all them people.
00:41:24.000 I enjoy that way more.
00:41:25.000 I've read the Bible a couple times and it's nice, but.
00:41:28.000 I'm not, like, I just don't, you know, buy into any of it.
00:41:32.000 Not just Christian, not just trying to attack them, but like anybody, really.
00:41:35.000 I think they're trying to tell a story.
00:41:37.000 I think that it, I think it all, I think there's a lot of human influence and there's a lot of stuff in it that people obviously wrote.
00:41:45.000 Like the stuff about slavery, the treating women like second class citizens.
00:41:50.000 There's a lot of stuff in it that seems clearly the work of man.
00:41:54.000 But I think the origin of it all is some.
00:41:58.000 Kind of a documentation of historical events that were incredibly strange.
00:42:04.000 Yeah.
00:42:04.000 And that they're trying, and you're getting these, like you're getting a lot of the gospels were written long after Jesus was dead, and they didn't even know Jesus.
00:42:13.000 They had never met him.
00:42:14.000 And so they're attributing words to him.
00:42:16.000 They're saying, so there's that.
00:42:17.000 And then there's also, like, if you get into the Old Testament, like the weird stuff, like the ages of people, like Moses was like, or Noah.
00:42:28.000 Noah was like 600 years old when he built it.
00:42:31.000 I think the oldest person in the Bible, I believe, is Methuselah.
00:42:34.000 I mean, yeah, there's Abraham.
00:42:36.000 Abraham was like, yeah, hundreds of years old, I believe.
00:42:39.000 Weird shit.
00:42:40.000 And then the flood story, and how the flood story is in so many different ancient religious stories.
00:42:45.000 It's the Epic of Gilgamesh.
00:42:47.000 It's a damn flood.
00:42:48.000 It's the oldest story there is.
00:42:50.000 Yeah.
00:42:50.000 So, yeah.
00:42:52.000 Yeah, I just, you know, people like now want to have an answer to something.
00:42:57.000 Like, I'm terrified of death.
00:42:59.000 That's the thing I'm most terrified of in the world.
00:43:01.000 Really?
00:43:02.000 Yeah.
00:43:03.000 You're not afraid of dying?
00:43:05.000 Oh, dying's terrifying.
00:43:07.000 What if something bad happens?
00:43:08.000 I mean, I don't want to die.
00:43:09.000 What if you go to heck?
00:43:11.000 Go to heck.
00:43:12.000 What if you end up in heck?
00:43:13.000 That'd be horrible.
00:43:14.000 Heck is hilarious.
00:43:15.000 You clearly live in the South, sir.
00:43:17.000 Yeah, well, yeah.
00:43:18.000 It is, I mean, it doesn't sound like fun.
00:43:22.000 No.
00:43:22.000 And it's going to suck that your family's going to miss you.
00:43:25.000 That would bother me the most.
00:43:26.000 See?
00:43:27.000 But it's inevitable.
00:43:30.000 Everyone's afraid to die.
00:43:31.000 No one's afraid to sleep.
00:43:33.000 But you know, shut up every night, shut off.
00:43:35.000 Yeah, but I hope you wake.
00:43:36.000 But do you?
00:43:37.000 Are you in the same timeline?
00:43:39.000 Are you in the same timeline?
00:43:40.000 Do you know if it's even the same life that you're living?
00:43:43.000 Yes.
00:43:44.000 I don't know if that's true.
00:43:45.000 Yeah, but I assume it's true.
00:43:46.000 The man I made yesterday is happening right now.
00:43:48.000 Right, but that's according to your memory.
00:43:50.000 Oh, geez.
00:43:51.000 Well, not according to my memory.
00:43:53.000 Yeah, I came here.
00:43:53.000 I don't.
00:43:54.000 When you are out, you're gone.
00:43:57.000 When you wake up, you have a pre existing selection of ideas and memories and all sorts of different things that you just assume you've always been on the same path.
00:44:08.000 But it's not necessarily true.
00:44:11.000 I believe in the multi.
00:44:13.000 Well, there's no evidence.
00:44:14.000 But if you believe in the multi.
00:44:15.000 There's also.
00:44:16.000 What evidence do you have currently that.
00:44:19.000 Subatomic particles exist.
00:44:20.000 You know, there's a lot of weirdness to the world, the quantum world, quantum connections, and the multi worlds theory.
00:44:27.000 If you do, like Philip K. Dick believed, he had a very strange idea about reality.
00:44:33.000 I think Philip K. Dick believed that we are in a computer simulation.
00:44:39.000 And he believed this in the 1960s.
00:44:41.000 And he had this very strange idea that decisions you make, conscious decisions, alter the past.
00:44:51.000 I don't.
00:44:52.000 I don't know what kind of drugs he was on when he was writing all that stuff.
00:44:55.000 Yeah.
00:44:56.000 Are you a big dick fan?
00:44:59.000 Not a huge dick fan.
00:45:01.000 Sorry.
00:45:03.000 I'm a medium dick fan.
00:45:06.000 No, I mean.
00:45:07.000 Sizable.
00:45:08.000 I mean, I think he wrote some amazing stuff, but he was one of those very important, odd thinkers that have sort of flavored our culture.
00:45:08.000 Yeah.
00:45:19.000 Where you get to read these very unusual takes on reality.
00:45:19.000 Yes.
00:45:24.000 Like,.
00:45:25.000 Dan George's dream of Electric Sheep.
00:45:28.000 Hunter Thompson.
00:45:28.000 Yeah.
00:45:29.000 There's a lot of people like that that have just written wild things that just make you just rethink the world that we're living in.
00:45:35.000 Yeah, I'm a big Hunter Thompson fan.
00:45:37.000 Yeah, just all that.
00:45:39.000 Yeah.
00:45:40.000 Like sci fi has never really interested me as much as I know it interests a lot of people.
00:45:43.000 I'm not a big Star Wars fan or Star Trek, but I do love, you know, some things like Blade Runner and stuff like that.
00:45:48.000 I just only think about the future.
00:45:50.000 You don't like thinking about it?
00:45:51.000 I hate the future.
00:45:52.000 No.
00:45:52.000 How come?
00:45:53.000 I don't know.
00:45:55.000 Because it hasn't happened.
00:45:58.000 I don't know.
00:45:58.000 I don't know what to expect.
00:46:00.000 Like, I don't like change at all.
00:46:02.000 I hate change.
00:46:04.000 Really, just personally?
00:46:05.000 Oh, yeah.
00:46:05.000 Any kind of change.
00:46:05.000 Yeah.
00:46:06.000 Don't like it.
00:46:07.000 I like things to stay the exact same.
00:46:09.000 I eat the same thing for breakfast, wear the same clothes every day.
00:46:13.000 Really?
00:46:13.000 Yeah.
00:46:14.000 I'm a creature of comfort.
00:46:15.000 Interesting.
00:46:16.000 Like, if I was a turtle in a terrarium, I'd be happy as could be.
00:46:22.000 You're a house cat.
00:46:22.000 Like, whereas if somebody just.
00:46:23.000 I'm a house cat.
00:46:24.000 Oh, without a doubt.
00:46:25.000 That's what Edward Snowden calls himself a house cat.
00:46:28.000 Yeah.
00:46:28.000 Oh, me.
00:46:29.000 Me and Eddie are.
00:46:29.000 Like one in the same.
00:46:31.000 I mean, when I asked him about his life in Russia, I said, you know, what is it like?
00:46:36.000 Like, do you feel isolated?
00:46:37.000 He goes, I'm basically a house cat.
00:46:39.000 I just need a computer and internet connection, and I'm happy.
00:46:42.000 He's not missing anything going outside there.
00:46:44.000 Yeah.
00:46:44.000 Jesus.
00:46:46.000 No, thank you.
00:46:46.000 Well, they might kidnap him and send him to the front lines.
00:46:49.000 Like, if you go out there, if you're of age, would not like, yeah, no, thank you.
00:46:53.000 No, I'm just a big indoor cat, and I like my routine every day, same routine.
00:46:59.000 Yeah, I just don't like change.
00:47:00.000 So the thought of the future.
00:47:02.000 Oh, the future is too much change.
00:47:04.000 Oh, no.
00:47:05.000 And the flying car.
00:47:06.000 I don't like too many LED lights.
00:47:10.000 When the hot robot assistants get created, are you going to get one?
00:47:13.000 Well, I'm not necessarily against that.
00:47:15.000 I mean, geez.
00:47:16.000 You know, I could be swayed a little.
00:47:19.000 But that's ex machina.
00:47:20.000 That's what it is.
00:47:22.000 That's what we're dealing with.
00:47:23.000 I just like the past.
00:47:25.000 I love the past more.
00:47:26.000 Why is that?
00:47:29.000 I mean, one, it's real.
00:47:31.000 As far as I'm concerned, the future isn't real because it hasn't happened.
00:47:34.000 Right.
00:47:35.000 It's just speculation.
00:47:36.000 It's speculation.
00:47:37.000 And I love seeing where we were and how we got to where we are now.
00:47:41.000 So, like, And also, just like what people were doing 2,000 years ago, you think, like how the hell did they come up with that 2,000 years ago?
00:47:49.000 Or the people who, you know, like Marcus Aurelius or somebody who, the way they thought, like how it is the, it's perfectly maps up to now, where like that same sort of stoicism, you know, I think can do wonders for people today.
00:48:06.000 And he was thinking that shit 2,000 years ago.
00:48:07.000 Oh, unquestionably.
00:48:08.000 I think all that kind of stuff.
00:48:10.000 And even like not that far back, but like the Victorian period, I think is fascinating.
00:48:14.000 I think.
00:48:15.000 Like when you travel around the U.S., knowing, like, well, what did this city or this place I'm standing at right now look like 150 years ago?
00:48:24.000 Like, what did it smell like?
00:48:26.000 It probably didn't smell the way it smells.
00:48:27.000 Yeah.
00:48:28.000 And yeah, I don't know.
00:48:29.000 I like thinking about stuff like that.
00:48:31.000 Well, it's absolutely fascinating because, I mean, just think about the timeline, the known timeline of human history.
00:48:41.000 Have you been to Rome?
00:48:42.000 Have you ever seen, like, the Colosseum or any of those places?
00:48:44.000 No, I've never been out of the U.S. Don't need to do that.
00:48:46.000 You don't need to?
00:48:47.000 No.
00:48:47.000 I don't know.
00:48:48.000 I can just look at it in a book.
00:48:48.000 No need to?
00:48:50.000 You ever watch a documentary?
00:48:52.000 I agree to a certain extent.
00:48:55.000 Well, no, I don't.
00:48:56.000 So I think watching it is certainly fascinating.
00:48:59.000 I love documentaries, but there's something about being there.
00:49:02.000 Like, I went to Greece a few years ago, and I was with my friend Brian Murorescu.
00:49:08.000 Do you know who he is?
00:49:09.000 Uh-uh.
00:49:10.000 He's a scholar, and he wrote a great book called The Immortality Key that is all about the Eleusinian mysteries in ancient Greece, which I believe Marcus Aurelio participated in.
00:49:19.000 Right, right, right.
00:49:21.000 Yeah.
00:49:23.000 When Marcus Aurelius participated in that, I'm most certain that that flavored some of his writings, particularly meditations.
00:49:31.000 Yeah.
00:49:32.000 Because there's a lot of the stuff in there that seems very psychedelically inspired.
00:49:35.000 Like the wisdom of this guy, okay, this guy is running Rome, you know, what is one of the most fucking powerful armies the world has ever known, conquering everything.
00:49:46.000 And this guy is essentially like a psychedelic bard.
00:49:50.000 It's very strange.
00:49:50.000 Right.
00:49:52.000 Like his writings on forgiveness.
00:49:56.000 And truth and recognizing your thoughts, and just he was.
00:50:02.000 And you're thinking about, like, oh my God, this is thousands of years ago.
00:50:05.000 This guy wrote this.
00:50:06.000 This is insane.
00:50:08.000 And a lot of that, I think, probably came out of those Illusinian mysteries.
00:50:08.000 Yeah.
00:50:13.000 But I went with Brian because I was there with my family, and Brian happened to be in Greece at the same time and met us there.
00:50:21.000 He gave us a tour of Illusis.
00:50:24.000 So you get to see, we were in the actual place.
00:50:27.000 Where these people have these Illicinian mysteries, and it feels weird.
00:50:31.000 That's pretty cool.
00:50:32.000 And you don't know if it feels weird because you're ascribing all these feelings because in your mind, you're like, oh my God, I'm here.
00:50:39.000 So you're in this heightened state of suggestibility or whatever.
00:50:42.000 I'm sure.
00:50:43.000 I'm sure that's a big part of it.
00:50:46.000 But it felt weird.
00:50:47.000 There's something about being there physically.
00:50:50.000 I haven't been to the pyramids.
00:50:51.000 That's one thing that I must do.
00:50:53.000 That is like on the top of my to do list, I really have to get there.
00:50:59.000 Because I went to the Mayan pyramids.
00:51:01.000 I went to Chichinita.
00:51:02.000 Guatemala or Chichinita?
00:51:05.000 Okay, I gotcha.
00:51:06.000 In the Yucatan, it's fucking incredible.
00:51:08.000 It's so bizarre.
00:51:10.000 Yes, that would be.
00:51:12.000 I'd go there.
00:51:12.000 That's about as far as I'd go, I think.
00:51:16.000 It's sketchy now.
00:51:16.000 Yeah, actually, coming down to Austin's about pushing it for me, really.
00:51:20.000 Yeah, and I'm only about a four hour drive.
00:51:22.000 Too much.
00:51:23.000 Too crazy.
00:51:23.000 Yeah.
00:51:24.000 Too many things happening on Longview.
00:51:25.000 Too much change.
00:51:26.000 Too much change.
00:51:27.000 Well, Austin is drastically different from Longview, Texas.
00:51:32.000 I mean, some things are similar, but no, I like a slow moving place.
00:51:37.000 You know, I just like a slow moving animal in general.
00:51:40.000 Yeah.
00:51:40.000 So I'm talking slow, everything.
00:51:42.000 So.
00:51:43.000 Well, whatever you like, man.
00:51:44.000 That's the beautiful thing about freedom.
00:51:46.000 Find your lane, find what you're into.
00:51:49.000 You know, for you, it's reading a lot of shit and making cool videos.
00:51:53.000 And real house houses.
00:51:54.000 And real house houses.
00:51:57.000 I can't watch those shows.
00:51:58.000 Why?
00:51:59.000 Because I just don't want to be around those people.
00:52:02.000 And so when I hear them yapping and trying to get all this attention, I'm like, I got to get out of the room.
00:52:06.000 That's the best thing.
00:52:07.000 It gives me.
00:52:07.000 You aren't in the room.
00:52:09.000 Like, you just get to watch it from your room.
00:52:12.000 I don't know.
00:52:12.000 Maybe I'm an empath.
00:52:14.000 I get secondhand anxiety from these people's lives.
00:52:17.000 Do you like watching confrontations like in public?
00:52:20.000 Not your confrontation, but like other people.
00:52:22.000 Like if somebody, two people get in like a fender bender and they get in like a little argument.
00:52:25.000 Do you like that?
00:52:26.000 Generally, I don't.
00:52:27.000 I mean, I will watch them if it's happening right in front of me, but I really wish it didn't happen.
00:52:34.000 I'm very averse to, believe it or not, very averse to public violence.
00:52:39.000 And I think.
00:52:40.000 Okay, I get that for sure.
00:52:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:52:42.000 Well, I'm not into violence.
00:52:44.000 I don't want to see somebody get knocked out.
00:52:45.000 I've seen enough videos of people have their heads bounce off concrete.
00:52:48.000 Never want to see that ever in my life.
00:52:50.000 I've seen it.
00:52:51.000 A lot.
00:52:52.000 But I would love watching two people just yell at each other.
00:52:52.000 Yeah.
00:52:55.000 Yeah, I don't like that because it just leads to, it generally leads to someone hitting somebody.
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00:54:00.000 And I'm just not a fan of human stupidity and especially that kind of stupidity.
00:54:04.000 I think it's really fucking dangerous.
00:54:06.000 I think people engage in it freely as if there's no consequences over things that mean nothing in the long run of your life.
00:54:13.000 But that moment of engaging could change your life forever.
00:54:19.000 You could either get killed or kill someone or get irreparably injured or harmed.
00:54:25.000 I mean, I know people that have been beat up and it's completely changed their personality forever.
00:54:30.000 I know a guy that's a vegetable because of it.
00:54:33.000 Like, I mean, he's about, maybe he's older than me, but yeah, his mom has to take care of him when she's in a crush here.
00:54:39.000 Yeah, because he got in a fight, got in a fight and head hit the curb and that's it.
00:54:43.000 And there's so many people that that happens to and you never hear about them because they're still alive.
00:54:48.000 They're still alive.
00:54:49.000 You know, so the person doesn't get charged with murder, but meanwhile, you have taken away that guy's life.
00:54:54.000 Yeah.
00:54:55.000 Oh, without a doubt.
00:54:56.000 Yeah.
00:54:56.000 It's the equivalent.
00:54:58.000 I think.
00:54:59.000 I mean, technically it isn't, but.
00:55:01.000 It's kind of odd that I don't enjoy violence because I've seen so much violence.
00:55:07.000 I've probably seen more people get their ass kicked than probably.
00:55:14.000 There's probably very few people who have ever lived on planet Earth that have seen more people get their ass kicked than me.
00:55:22.000 Oh, I think that's, yeah, without question.
00:55:24.000 Like, who else could it be?
00:55:24.000 Yeah.
00:55:27.000 I mean, I've just been there live for thousands of fights.
00:55:31.000 I've professionally called thousands of fights on TV.
00:55:35.000 Are there any people who have called more fights?
00:55:37.000 Maybe.
00:55:38.000 Like in other places, like I don't even mean here, like in Japan or like, because that's the only thing I can think of.
00:55:43.000 It's not likely.
00:55:43.000 It's not likely.
00:55:44.000 I've been doing it since 1997.
00:55:47.000 So that's when I first started working for the UFC, it was in 1997.
00:55:51.000 I was four years old.
00:55:52.000 Yeah.
00:55:53.000 So that was my first.
00:55:56.000 So that was the first time I started working for the UFC.
00:55:59.000 And then continually since 2001.
00:56:03.000 So 25 years of calling fights.
00:56:06.000 And at one point in time, I was doing like.
00:56:09.000 20 plus events a year.
00:56:11.000 So I was on the road like every other week doing UFC fights.
00:56:15.000 So I don't think there's very many people that.
00:56:18.000 And then on top of that, all the fights that I watch, not live.
00:56:24.000 So a big part of what I do, you know, I take the commentary job very seriously.
00:56:31.000 And even if I didn't, I'm just a giant fan of combat sports.
00:56:34.000 I don't.
00:56:35.000 You think it's like because I like violence.
00:56:37.000 What I really like is high level problem solving.
00:56:41.000 And that's what it is.
00:56:41.000 It's like very.
00:56:43.000 Intense, very, I call it high level problem solving with dire physical consequences.
00:56:49.000 Like it's just like an insane game that these guys are playing.
00:56:52.000 And there's an incredible amount of technique involved, strategy, determination, and willpower to get yourself into shape, intelligence in order to formulate the correct sort of style and game plan to be successful as a fighter.
00:57:06.000 And so I watch a lot of fights.
00:57:08.000 I watch a lot of like jujitsu matches.
00:57:10.000 I watch a lot of kickboxing fights.
00:57:12.000 I watch a lot of fights.
00:57:14.000 So it's just in terms of like how many people have watched more people get.
00:57:17.000 Their fucking ass kicked.
00:57:19.000 Probably I'm at the top 1% of people that have ever lived.
00:57:23.000 Yeah.
00:57:23.000 I got a number for you.
00:57:25.000 What is the number?
00:57:26.000 As of 2024, it was 3,250.
00:57:30.000 3,250 what?
00:57:31.000 Fights.
00:57:32.000 That I've called?
00:57:32.000 Yeah.
00:57:33.000 That's just that I've called.
00:57:34.000 So 3,250 fights that I've called just professionally.
00:57:39.000 And then watching it, I probably watched that again.
00:57:46.000 At least.
00:57:47.000 Yeah.
00:57:47.000 At least.
00:57:48.000 So it's probably 7,000 ish.
00:57:51.000 Yeah, easily.
00:57:52.000 Yeah.
00:57:53.000 Easily, maybe more.
00:57:54.000 Because sometimes I'll watch two, three in a day, every day.
00:57:59.000 I watch them in the gym all the time.
00:58:01.000 I'm always watching.
00:58:02.000 So it could be up to 10,000.
00:58:05.000 Yeah.
00:58:05.000 So I don't like violence, believe it or not.
00:58:07.000 I mean, what I can understand that, though, because, like, you know, it's not that you're loving seeing a guy get the shit beat out of him.
00:58:16.000 It's loving seeing how does this guy handle the situation?
00:58:19.000 How does this guy.
00:58:20.000 You know, change his outcome.
00:58:22.000 Like, it's looking like it's going to go one way.
00:58:24.000 What's he going to do?
00:58:24.000 Yes.
00:58:24.000 Reverse it.
00:58:25.000 Am I, like, kind of.
00:58:26.000 I love watching people achieve greatness.
00:58:28.000 Yes.
00:58:28.000 And I think greatness with the highest level of physical consequences in terms of, like, safety.
00:58:34.000 Obviously, war is number one.
00:58:35.000 Right.
00:58:36.000 Get past, and then there's, you know, first responders, police officers, SWAT teams, that kind of stuff.
00:58:42.000 But outside of that, in a controlled environment where people are preparing for a very specific contest, I just find that to be the most thrilling and exciting thing.
00:58:53.000 In all of sports.
00:58:54.000 And so that's my perspective on it.
00:58:57.000 But I don't like people getting violent on the street.
00:59:00.000 It bothers the shit out of me.
00:59:01.000 I hate it.
00:59:02.000 Yeah, well, the risk reward, too, is different.
00:59:04.000 I mean, the risk in an octagon or in a ring is drastically different when you have a medical team.
00:59:10.000 I mean, not that things can't happen, but versus a parking lot.
00:59:14.000 100%.
00:59:15.000 And then what's to stop some other guy to come up and just boot this person right in the face?
00:59:19.000 And you see it all the time.
00:59:20.000 Right.
00:59:21.000 You don't see that in the UFC.
00:59:22.000 I mean, so you're seeing controlled chaos in a sense, or it's not even really chaos, but you're seeing a controlled, like, we're both agreeing to do this.
00:59:31.000 We're both at the right weight.
00:59:33.000 Yeah.
00:59:33.000 Like, it's different.
00:59:35.000 Like, whenever I watch, you know, Whenever I watch a fight, like I don't think of it in nearly the same way because I feel sick to my stomach whenever I watch people get in fights in real life.
00:59:46.000 Like, real.
00:59:47.000 Yeah.
00:59:47.000 I don't feel like that watching.
00:59:48.000 You see, I feel like I'm watching two athletes competing.
00:59:51.000 They hug each other after the fight.
00:59:53.000 Yeah.
00:59:53.000 Like, I feel the same way whenever I watch a football game because I'm a big football fan.
00:59:56.000 Like, that's my number one.
00:59:58.000 And I hate seeing people get concussed.
01:00:00.000 Hate it.
01:00:01.000 Hate.
01:00:02.000 There you go.
01:00:03.000 Like, I'm a.
01:00:03.000 Yeah.
01:00:04.000 Yeah, I hate it too.
01:00:05.000 Yeah.
01:00:05.000 I don't want to see somebody get helmet to helmet.
01:00:08.000 Oh, this person can't even walk.
01:00:09.000 Like, doesn't know where they are.
01:00:11.000 But I love seeing a big hit at the right time where you're making this amazing defensive play.
01:00:17.000 Because you are two athletes who have agreed.
01:00:20.000 And you're at the height of your.
01:00:20.000 Yeah.
01:00:23.000 I love watching people do things that are insanely difficult to do.
01:00:26.000 That's what I love.
01:00:28.000 Have you seen that?
01:00:29.000 There's this guy who's a Russian gymnast who figured out some new way to do an iron cross.
01:00:34.000 He does an iron cross inverted.
01:00:36.000 The hell's an iron cross?
01:00:37.000 An iron cross is one of the most difficult moves in gymnastics where they're on the rings and they hold their body up.
01:00:42.000 Like that with their arms out.
01:00:44.000 It takes like insane strength.
01:00:45.000 Yeah, Vince Vaughn in old school when he's smoking the cigarette doing it.
01:00:48.000 Really?
01:00:49.000 You've never seen old school with Vince Vaughn and Will Ferrell?
01:00:52.000 Does he do that?
01:00:53.000 That's probably G.I., right?
01:00:53.000 Yeah, I think.
01:00:55.000 It's fake.
01:00:56.000 Well, no, I'm not saying he's really doing it, but in the movie.
01:00:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:00:59.000 So this Russian guy has figured out a way to do it upside down.
01:01:04.000 So he's literally doing a handstand and he stretches out.
01:01:08.000 Watch this.
01:01:09.000 This is it?
01:01:09.000 Okay.
01:01:10.000 Watch this cat.
01:01:11.000 This is crazy.
01:01:12.000 Oh my God.
01:01:13.000 The amount of strength that it takes to do that is fucking preposterous.
01:01:19.000 He's the first guy to ever do it.
01:01:20.000 If I started today, how long do you think it would take for me to be able to do that?
01:01:28.000 It would take you 50 or 60 years.
01:01:30.000 Oh, I got time then.
01:01:31.000 Well, you would have to lose an insane amount of weight.
01:01:33.000 You'd have to get on steroids.
01:01:35.000 There'd be a lot of things that would have to happen to change your physique.
01:01:38.000 Done.
01:01:38.000 You'd have to.
01:01:39.000 Done.
01:01:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:01:41.000 You've got to get coaches.
01:01:42.000 You've got to go to Russia.
01:01:45.000 That would be, that's actually the biggest problem.
01:01:47.000 The weight loss and the steroids, I can start right now.
01:01:50.000 I don't know if this cat figured it out on his own, if it was something he was thinking, can this be done?
01:01:55.000 But I'm fascinated by people that are like the first person to figure out that a move can be done.
01:02:01.000 Yeah.
01:02:02.000 Or just the people who can do anything for the first time.
01:02:04.000 Like, what was his name?
01:02:05.000 Bannister, Roger Bannister, that ran the mile for the first time four minutes.
01:02:08.000 Yeah.
01:02:08.000 It had never been done all this time.
01:02:11.000 But then what's crazy is that, like, the next year there were like six people that ran it.
01:02:14.000 Yeah.
01:02:15.000 So it's weird how, like, Like, I wonder how many people are going to be doing this a week from now.
01:02:20.000 Right.
01:02:20.000 Like, probably a couple at least.
01:02:22.000 Yeah, I think it's about knowing that something's achievable that makes it infinitely easier.
01:02:27.000 Yes.
01:02:28.000 Like, weirdly.
01:02:29.000 Or, like, X Games.
01:02:30.000 I grew up watching the X Games a lot, and you would see a move be done, like a 900, Tony Hawk doing a 900.
01:02:36.000 Now there's like six year olds doing 900.
01:02:38.000 Oh, there we go.
01:02:39.000 It's a nine year old, but.
01:02:40.000 Yeah, but still, yeah.
01:02:40.000 It's on the same thought process.
01:02:42.000 I mean, when I was like a little kid, look at that kid.
01:02:46.000 Doing back to back.
01:02:47.000 Bro, imagine that's your kid doing that.
01:02:49.000 You'd be like, don't get hurt, Billy.
01:02:50.000 Dude, when I was like a little, when did Tony Hawk do 9?
01:02:53.000 Was it 99, I think?
01:02:55.000 99?
01:02:55.000 Yeah, I remember watching, and it was like you saw Jesus walk on water.
01:03:02.000 Right, three back to back.
01:03:03.000 And now there's a nine year old Japanese boy who does back to back 900s.
01:03:09.000 Wow.
01:03:11.000 That's crazy.
01:03:12.000 His first 900 at age seven.
01:03:15.000 I mean, isn't that wild?
01:03:17.000 99 is not that long ago.
01:03:19.000 I mean, it is a while, but.
01:03:20.000 Not that long ago.
01:03:21.000 But for there to be that level of change in that amount of years where it's like an easy thing.
01:03:27.000 That is crazy.
01:03:31.000 That literally is crazy.
01:03:32.000 Boy, that is a rough fucking sport.
01:03:34.000 Those guys get some fucking concussions.
01:03:37.000 Yeah, Tony Hawk.
01:03:38.000 Did you watch his documentary?
01:03:39.000 No.
01:03:40.000 Oh, you should really watch that.
01:03:43.000 Until the Wheels Fall Off, I think is what it was called.
01:03:46.000 It is incredible.
01:03:47.000 Tony Hawk's amazing.
01:03:48.000 I had him on the podcast back then.
01:03:49.000 Oh, really?
01:03:50.000 He was great.
01:03:50.000 He was a really interesting guy.
01:03:52.000 It starts with him trying to land a 900 now, like, you know, as he's gotten quite a bit older.
01:03:58.000 And the amount of shit he's eating constantly.
01:04:03.000 He can't get it because he's, you know, older and harder to do it.
01:04:06.000 But you still see, like, He's not doing it for anybody.
01:04:09.000 He's not in a competition.
01:04:10.000 He's like in his personal, you know, half pipe.
01:04:13.000 Right.
01:04:14.000 And just, but you see it in his eyes.
01:04:16.000 Like, those skaters have no quit in them.
01:04:19.000 Right.
01:04:20.000 Well, you can't.
01:04:21.000 Yeah, but there's something amazing about that.
01:04:23.000 Yeah.
01:04:24.000 Like, I'm a big quitter.
01:04:29.000 I love quitting.
01:04:31.000 I don't know if I love anything more than I love quitting.
01:04:34.000 It's hilarious.
01:04:35.000 Like, when something's difficult, I'm just like, oh, I could just stop and do something better.
01:04:35.000 It's great.
01:04:40.000 That's funny.
01:04:41.000 You and I would be like a funny odd couple show.
01:04:41.000 But those guys don't.
01:04:44.000 Oh, yeah.
01:04:44.000 What was it, Oscar and whatever it was?
01:04:47.000 Felix and Oscar, yeah.
01:04:47.000 Felix.
01:04:49.000 Oh, we probably are the most opposite people.
01:04:53.000 I might be the most opposite person you may have ever had on here.
01:04:57.000 In many ways, but in a lot of ways, we're similar.
01:05:00.000 We're interested in history, we're interested in unique facts.
01:05:03.000 Yeah.
01:05:04.000 Obviously, that's why I'm a giant fan of your page.
01:05:06.000 Thank you.
01:05:07.000 Yeah, there's a Venn diagram, you know?
01:05:09.000 Yeah.
01:05:09.000 But ours is like, you know, barely touching.
01:05:12.000 Like, there's, yeah.
01:05:13.000 Well, I'm always interested in what turns people down certain paths, like what makes them go one way or another.
01:05:20.000 You know, I mean, I think anyone could go down any path.
01:05:20.000 Yeah.
01:05:24.000 It could have happened.
01:05:25.000 I think it happens oftentimes very young, and then you start building momentum and towards very specific areas.
01:05:32.000 That's a big thing I have with anything pop culture, so like movies, music, and like remembering dates and like, you know, when did this movie come out?
01:05:39.000 When did this album come out?
01:05:40.000 Is because like my dad would, you know, like, Trivia, like give me tests, like to try to impress my uncles.
01:05:47.000 Like he was like, Cody, who sings blah, blah, blah, at like five years old, and I would just name them.
01:05:52.000 Right.
01:05:52.000 But I would like, I love the rush from like knowing something, right?
01:05:57.000 That it impressed people.
01:05:59.000 Cause otherwise, I mean, I wasn't impressing people, you know, in any other way.
01:06:02.000 So I was like, I got to do something.
01:06:04.000 Cause my brother was like amazingly good at baseball.
01:06:07.000 I don't have that.
01:06:08.000 So I was like, well, what's my thing?
01:06:09.000 And it just became facts.
01:06:11.000 Yeah.
01:06:11.000 Knowing random stuff.
01:06:13.000 And I like the feeling of like when you tell somebody something weird that they never knew.
01:06:17.000 And you kind of see them get like, they're like, oh my God, I never knew that.
01:06:21.000 Ooh, I like that feeling.
01:06:22.000 A very impressive quality.
01:06:24.000 I love talking to people, and they can tell me things that I had no idea.
01:06:28.000 I'm like, what?
01:06:29.000 Really?
01:06:30.000 Brian Simpson's great at that.
01:06:31.000 Brian Simpson is a warehouse of interesting information.
01:06:36.000 He and I, anytime we find something really fascinating online, we send it to each other.
01:06:41.000 And he's just doing that all day long.
01:06:43.000 Yeah, see, that's my kind of thing.
01:06:45.000 I want to know everything.
01:06:47.000 It's one of the reasons why I don't want to ever die.
01:06:49.000 It's one of the things I'm scared about death is that, like, Yeah, but what about all the stuff I'm not going to know?
01:06:54.000 Which I know it's foolish.
01:06:55.000 Like, there's no way I could ever learn 1% of everything.
01:06:58.000 If technology came along that could extend your lifespan literally indefinitely, sign me up.
01:07:05.000 UBN?
01:07:06.000 Yes.
01:07:06.000 I don't know why people say, like, oh, if I make it to 90, kill me.
01:07:10.000 You're a pussy.
01:07:11.000 Like, I mean, what are you talking about?
01:07:15.000 I want to live for.
01:07:16.000 Yes.
01:07:16.000 What's that movie with Johnny Depp?
01:07:18.000 Transcendence, I believe, where they put him in the thing and it goes very wrong.
01:07:22.000 I don't care.
01:07:23.000 I ignore all those movies.
01:07:25.000 I would go to Jurassic Park, even knowing what happened to all those people.
01:07:29.000 All those innocent people.
01:07:30.000 Well, they're probably going to do that eventually.
01:07:32.000 Right now, they don't have dinosaur DNA, but I don't think that's going to be able to stop them from creating a dinosaur.
01:07:39.000 I think what they're going to be able to do is use bird DNA and eventually engineer a dinosaur by giving each new iteration very specific traits.
01:07:47.000 Like, that's kind of what they're doing at Colossal Bioworks.
01:07:50.000 Yeah.
01:07:51.000 Where they're bringing back the thylacine and they're bringing, I mean, they already brought back the direwolf.
01:07:58.000 Yeah.
01:07:58.000 Oh, right.
01:07:59.000 So that's who did the direwolf.
01:07:59.000 Okay.
01:08:00.000 Oh, right, right, right.
01:08:00.000 Yeah.
01:08:01.000 I went to that.
01:08:02.000 I went to the place where they have them.
01:08:03.000 I saw the direwolves.
01:08:05.000 My daughter was playing with a four-year-old, I guess, four-month-old, six-month-old.
01:08:09.000 I think it was like a four-month-old puppy, direwolf puppy.
01:08:12.000 And it's like a puppy: it gives you kisses, it sits in your lap, it's wagging its tail, it cuddles with you.
01:08:18.000 But they get to a certain age where you can't do that with them anymore.
01:08:21.000 You weren't worried it was going to disintegrate or turn into something like the thing.
01:08:21.000 For sure.
01:08:26.000 I don't know.
01:08:27.000 It opens up my mouth.
01:08:30.000 It chops your arm off.
01:08:31.000 Yeah.
01:08:32.000 Yeah.
01:08:33.000 No, because I spoke with them before and explained what they're doing.
01:08:37.000 It's mostly they're taking these genes from this, like they got samples from a 7,000 year old corpse of a direwolf.
01:08:47.000 They sequenced the genome and they started altering gray wolf genes.
01:08:51.000 And next thing you know, they have this thing that is people say it's not a direwolf.
01:08:58.000 It's not technically a direwolf.
01:09:00.000 But that's by our definition.
01:09:02.000 Like, what is a direwolf other than a collection of genes?
01:09:06.000 That has the traits of a direwolf.
01:09:08.000 Well, I don't know.
01:09:10.000 You can decide all you want what it is, but what it is is very different than any other wolf that's ever lived.
01:09:17.000 Since direwolves have died.
01:09:18.000 So, why isn't it a direwolf?
01:09:20.000 Why do they think it isn't one of them?
01:09:22.000 They're splitting hairs.
01:09:24.000 I had the head geneticist from, what was her name?
01:09:27.000 Beth Cohen.
01:09:29.000 Was that her name?
01:09:31.000 From Colossal Biowars.
01:09:32.000 Fascinating woman.
01:09:33.000 Yeah.
01:09:34.000 Like, brilliant.
01:09:35.000 And she was Beth Shapiro.
01:09:39.000 And she was explaining how they do it and what the argument is that it's not a direwolf.
01:09:47.000 And I'm in her camp.
01:09:49.000 Essentially, we've decided, like, what, like, all these different animals, whether it's chimpanzees, cockatoos, whatever, we've decided that this is what it is.
01:10:02.000 But what it really is is just a collection of genes, right?
01:10:05.000 They give very specific traits, and those traits are passed on by its offspring.
01:10:09.000 And they've managed to engineer.
01:10:11.000 An animal that has all of the characteristics of a dire wolf, and they look very different.
01:10:17.000 They're all white and they have a mane, which is really weird.
01:10:21.000 They have like this thick, almost like a lion's mane around, kind of like my golden retriever does.
01:10:27.000 Marshall has a bit of a mane, it's very elegant when he runs.
01:10:31.000 Yeah, but they look different.
01:10:35.000 They're stouter, they're a thicker, stronger wolf.
01:10:39.000 Okay, really wild.
01:10:40.000 It's interesting, like.
01:10:43.000 At what point does something become a new species then?
01:10:45.000 Like, what's the difference between a mutation?
01:10:47.000 So, like, this one dog has, you know, or whatever, this one bird has a red beak, but normally they're yellow, versus, oh, well, all the ones with red beaks are new species.
01:10:57.000 I've never really understood that.
01:10:58.000 It's a good question.
01:10:59.000 Well, it's humans decide, you know, which is where I mean, we have a very specific way of categorizing different species.
01:10:59.000 Yeah.
01:11:10.000 And it's like these biologists make these decisions and these distinctions.
01:11:14.000 But ultimately, nature doesn't give a fuck what you say.
01:11:17.000 It has many of these different weird variables.
01:11:21.000 And it's up to people to try to figure out, like, okay, well, is this logical that this is a new species?
01:11:27.000 Or is this a.
01:11:29.000 Like, look at the differences in humans.
01:11:29.000 Look at humans.
01:11:32.000 Like, look at, like, Shaquille O'Neal and, you know, Caitlyn Jenner.
01:11:32.000 Yeah.
01:11:40.000 Like, that's the same species, right?
01:11:42.000 Look at, it's very weird.
01:11:44.000 Well, humans are fucking strange, you know?
01:11:46.000 You have Bobby Lee and then you have Hulk Hogan.
01:11:50.000 Yeah.
01:11:51.000 Yeah.
01:11:51.000 It's like they're very different, but we're all the same thing.
01:11:55.000 Like, if we were something else in the wild, we would assume that these are multiple different species.
01:12:00.000 Yes.
01:12:00.000 Yes.
01:12:01.000 Yeah, it's like the Neanderthal versus Homo sapien.
01:12:05.000 Look at that guy.
01:12:07.000 Yeah, little tiny lady.
01:12:09.000 Oh.
01:12:09.000 Well, I shouldn't.
01:12:11.000 World's tallest person and the world's shortest woman.
01:12:13.000 That's crazy.
01:12:14.000 Which would you rather be?
01:12:16.000 I guess the tall guy, but he's probably in massive pain.
01:12:19.000 He doesn't look.
01:12:21.000 He's got a cane.
01:12:22.000 Generally, when they're that big, they have a tumor on their pituitary gland.
01:12:28.000 Yeah.
01:12:28.000 What was it?
01:12:29.000 He's 8'3.
01:12:29.000 Hypermedia?
01:12:30.000 Jesus.
01:12:31.000 Yeah.
01:12:32.000 He's probably in agony all the time.
01:12:35.000 And I don't even know if that's if you could mitigate that with like weight training or something, if you could get strong enough so that you can carry that amount of weight and frame.
01:12:45.000 Because you're dealing with, I don't think human joints are designed to carry around that kind of mass and just that height.
01:12:53.000 And also, if you have a tumor in your pituitary gland, things are probably growing the wrong way.
01:13:00.000 Because what it's essentially is like secreting abnormal amounts of human growth hormone.
01:13:05.000 Constantly.
01:13:06.000 Which is why they get like the rose.
01:13:08.000 Yeah, like Andre the Giant.
01:13:10.000 Yeah, you get like a long Easter Island head.
01:13:13.000 Yeah.
01:13:13.000 There was a guy that used to fight in MMA named Bigfoot Silva.
01:13:16.000 Uh huh.
01:13:17.000 And he had that.
01:13:18.000 And he actually had the tumor removed from his pituitary gland and it radically changed his fighting ability.
01:13:25.000 Oh, that's a better way or a worse way?
01:13:29.000 Much worse.
01:13:30.000 His body wasn't producing the.
01:13:31.000 His endocrine system wasn't functioning properly anymore.
01:13:34.000 Oh.
01:13:35.000 Yeah, because you're not going to shrink.
01:13:37.000 Right.
01:13:37.000 So his hormone levels were all like.
01:13:40.000 Hugely depleted.
01:13:41.000 And this is at the time where they had banned testosterone replacement therapy for mixed martial arts athletes.
01:13:47.000 So he couldn't be on it anymore.
01:13:49.000 But when he was on it, oh my God.
01:13:51.000 Yeah.
01:13:52.000 When he was on the sauce and he was like 300 pounds and huge, he was killing people.
01:13:57.000 Yeah, that would suck.
01:13:58.000 Yeah, he was like one of the first guys to beat up Fedora Milianenko.
01:14:00.000 Who's one of the greatest of all time.
01:14:00.000 Yeah.
01:14:03.000 But it was just, he was so big.
01:14:05.000 He was like 300 plus pounds and a black belt in jujitsu and a legitimate giant.
01:14:10.000 Robert Wadlow didn't have that.
01:14:10.000 God.
01:14:13.000 You know what I'm talking about?
01:14:15.000 He didn't have that?
01:14:15.000 The guy that was 8 foot 11?
01:14:16.000 No, he didn't.
01:14:17.000 No.
01:14:17.000 Was he just abnormally tall?
01:14:18.000 8 foot 11.
01:14:19.000 What does he look like?
01:14:21.000 Oh, you used to see pictures of him.
01:14:22.000 Did he need a cane or anything like that, or did he walk normal?
01:14:24.000 He died pretty young, but not even related to just being that tall.
01:14:30.000 He died from.
01:14:31.000 I think he might have had a cane later at some point.
01:14:35.000 But I believe, unless I'm mistaken, he died because his shoes had to be specially made and the nails in the soles gave him an infection.
01:14:35.000 Yeah, okay.
01:14:43.000 And he died from the infection, I think.
01:14:46.000 That's crazy.
01:14:47.000 But look at him next to that.
01:14:48.000 I mean, isn't that wild?
01:14:49.000 Yeah.
01:14:49.000 Wild, yeah, but I mean, it's like, well, how did that exist in what 1920 to 1930?
01:14:56.000 And we've never had anyone like that now, right?
01:14:59.000 And he doesn't look like a guy who has a disease, he looks like a normal guy, it was just enormous.
01:15:04.000 I mean, so like, yeah, he at birth, eight pounds, five ounces in that wild.
01:15:08.000 His great size and continued growth in adulthood due to hypertrophy of the pituitary gland, so he did have a pituitary gland.
01:15:15.000 I thought he didn't have, and that's why he was, yeah, so it's basically the same, but he looks okay, much more normal.
01:15:21.000 Well, I wonder why that happens then.
01:15:23.000 Oh, at the time, corrective surgery was dangerous and not guaranteed to work, so his parents decided against intervening.
01:15:30.000 By the time he graduated, he was 8'4.
01:15:33.000 That's crazy.
01:15:34.000 His burial is wild.
01:15:38.000 Like how, oh, he had to have leg braces.
01:15:40.000 Yeah.
01:15:41.000 Had little feeling in his legs and feet, but he never used a wheelchair.
01:15:45.000 Yeah.
01:15:46.000 Wow.
01:15:46.000 There was something about his shoes.
01:15:48.000 Holy fucking shit.
01:15:48.000 Look at his shoes.
01:15:50.000 Size 37 shoes.
01:15:52.000 Ooh, boy, that'd be rough.
01:15:54.000 What do you think?
01:15:55.000 Imagine the, you know.
01:15:58.000 The historical depictions of giants.
01:16:01.000 Historical depictions of giants.
01:16:01.000 Huh?
01:16:04.000 Like giants in the Bible, giants in.
01:16:09.000 There's Native American stories of giants, and they have a lot of similarities, oddly.
01:16:14.000 Well, either just a couple of people.
01:16:16.000 Red hair?
01:16:17.000 No, red hair, six fingers, six toes.
01:16:20.000 Weird stuff.
01:16:21.000 Yeah, wasn't that.
01:16:24.000 Who the one got beat with the damn sling?
01:16:27.000 David and Goliath?
01:16:29.000 Didn't Goliath have six fingers, I believe, in the bone somewhere?
01:16:31.000 I don't know.
01:16:32.000 I remember that from Sunday school, I think.
01:16:34.000 I don't remember, but I bet you're right.
01:16:34.000 I was pretty.
01:16:36.000 I was pretty infatuated by the six fingers aspect of it.
01:16:39.000 Well, what's interesting is the Native Americans had very similar stories of large, red haired, pale skinned giants with six fingers and six toes with no access to the Bible whatsoever.
01:16:52.000 It was completely different, whether it was folklore, mythology, or they're talking about a real thing.
01:17:00.000 That's where it gets weird.
01:17:01.000 I feel like it can't be a real thing.
01:17:02.000 Why is that?
01:17:04.000 Eh, because they're not around now.
01:17:07.000 Well, that doesn't mean anything because Denisovans are not around now either, and we know those were a real thing.
01:17:11.000 Yeah, but were the giants a separate thing from the humans, or were they just like humans?
01:17:16.000 Probably a different branch of the human species.
01:17:20.000 That's what I think.
01:17:21.000 There's just too many stories down, or for whatever reason, didn't make it.
01:17:25.000 Died off.
01:17:26.000 Like a lot of other, like 90% of all species that have ever lived are gone.
01:17:30.000 Well, that's true.
01:17:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:17:31.000 And there's been a ton of different versions of human beings that existed.
01:17:36.000 You know, like the Denisovan one is really weird.
01:17:38.000 I don't know if you've.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:40.000 Yeah.
01:17:40.000 So they're realizing these Denisovans were much larger than humans, than Homo sapiens.
01:17:46.000 Like a lot larger.
01:17:47.000 Like much bigger head, bigger cranial capacity, bigger brain capacity, larger jaw, larger eye sockets, larger eyeballs.
01:17:54.000 Like really weird stuff.
01:17:56.000 So why'd they die out then?
01:17:58.000 They should have been the ones killing us.
01:18:00.000 Well, we might have been the most clever because we're the softest.
01:18:04.000 You know, we're the weakest, so we were probably the most vicious, and we probably figured out tools better than they did, and we probably slaughtered them because they were dangerous.
01:18:12.000 That makes sense.
01:18:13.000 Well, I mean, look, we figured out how to survive around lions, tigers, and bears.
01:18:18.000 Oh, my.
01:18:20.000 We're clever.
01:18:21.000 Wasps, yeah, all kinds of stuff.
01:18:23.000 It's entirely possible that we wiped them out.
01:18:25.000 You know, like that might be a part of the allegory.
01:18:28.000 That may be a part of, like, when you read the story of David and Goliath, like, what happens?
01:18:32.000 Well, David kills the giant.
01:18:33.000 You know, that might have been what we did.
01:18:35.000 We probably hunted them.
01:18:37.000 Yeah.
01:18:37.000 Get what you get.
01:18:38.000 And it's probably also, they probably required an insane amount of resources.
01:18:42.000 It was probably incredibly difficult.
01:18:44.000 It's like dinosaurs.
01:18:45.000 Yeah.
01:18:45.000 Yeah.
01:18:45.000 To feed them.
01:18:46.000 It's like the main reason they went out wasn't because of, like, you know, the asteroid didn't just kill them all.
01:18:51.000 It mostly died from a lack of resources.
01:18:53.000 And obviously, like, the oxygen levels changing and all that business.
01:18:57.000 Yeah, well, a lot of things happen, right?
01:18:58.000 But that's what chickens are.
01:18:59.000 Chickens are basically living dinosaurs.
01:19:01.000 Right.
01:19:02.000 But they're tiny.
01:19:03.000 You ever see a chicken go after a mouse?
01:19:05.000 No, I've seen chickens go after other chickens or chickens go after worms or other little bugs.
01:19:09.000 It's very dinosaur like, very velociraptor like.
01:19:11.000 But the way they go after a mouse is insane.
01:19:14.000 It's like the ferocity in which they attack a mouse is insane.
01:19:18.000 Like, there's a video, we played it a million times, but there's a cat, and the cat has a mouse, and the cat's kind of toying with the mouse, and a chicken runs over and snatches it from the cat and just rips it apart like a monster.
01:19:30.000 Just shaking it, pecking it, tearing it apart.
01:19:33.000 Yeah.
01:19:35.000 My, yeah, watch this.
01:19:37.000 Look at this chicken, fuck this mouse up.
01:19:44.000 I mean, they didn't try to steal it from each other.
01:19:46.000 They all know what it is, they want that mouse.
01:19:49.000 And you think of chickens as being these little cute little things that peck around the grass.
01:19:54.000 No, if they catch a mouse, they will fuck that mouse up.
01:19:57.000 Yeah, because, I mean, they'll do it to other chickens.
01:19:59.000 Like, my grandparents had chickens, and they, you know, they'd kill each other sometimes.
01:20:03.000 Yeah.
01:20:03.000 That's what the pecking order is.
01:20:05.000 Yeah.
01:20:06.000 They literally peck at each other and tear each other apart.
01:20:08.000 They're ruthless little cunts.
01:20:09.000 I mean, actually, really, all animals kind of do that to an extent.
01:20:13.000 Like, people kill their young.
01:20:14.000 I know.
01:20:15.000 All humans do, too, Lindsay Clancy.
01:20:17.000 But, well, allegedly, I guess.
01:20:19.000 But, allegedly.
01:20:20.000 She said she did it.
01:20:21.000 Well, she may have been under the, you know.
01:20:23.000 She may still have been psychotic when she admitted.
01:20:27.000 That's that one's so bizarre to me.
01:20:29.000 She might have been psychotic when she admitted that she did it.
01:20:32.000 No, that's what some people think.
01:20:33.000 Some people think that she may.
01:20:34.000 I mean, the people who are just trying to find any excuse for why she did what she did have, you know, come to just a million different brain dead.
01:20:44.000 One is that was not on my bingo card.
01:20:46.000 I didn't think you're going to see hundreds of women wearing pink shirts showing up outside the courthouse during her trial in support of her having.
01:20:56.000 Strangled her fucking children with an exercise cord one at a time.
01:21:01.000 Yeah.
01:21:02.000 I did not understand that.
01:21:04.000 I still really don't.
01:21:05.000 I mean, well, there is just a huge number of people who've just gotten so invested in true crime, like true crime YouTube channels, and that's all they watch all day, every day.
01:21:14.000 And so they have basically convinced themselves that they are detectives, but they suck at it.
01:21:21.000 It's like, you know, I've watched so much football that I do watch it, and I basically think I know more than an NFL head coach.
01:21:29.000 Meanwhile, I don't know anything.
01:21:31.000 Right.
01:21:31.000 Why would you call that play, you idiot?
01:21:33.000 I wouldn't have done that.
01:21:35.000 I'm just sitting there, you know, eating pussy.
01:21:37.000 Of course.
01:21:38.000 But there's like all these women who have done the same thing, but with true crime.
01:21:42.000 And they, you know, they think they're goddamn Clarice Starling.
01:21:45.000 And, yeah.
01:21:46.000 But, you know, so they think there's like a cover up, a conspiracy.
01:21:50.000 Oh, the police department must be covering up things because the husband definitely did it.
01:21:53.000 Like, you know, they just go down these rabbit holes of TikTok.
01:21:58.000 It's the Dunning Kruger effect in real time.
01:22:00.000 Yes.
01:22:00.000 Yes.
01:22:00.000 It is exactly what it is.
01:22:02.000 Yeah.
01:22:02.000 Yeah.
01:22:02.000 It's fascinating to see, but it is.
01:22:05.000 Very sad when it comes to that type of thing happening.
01:22:08.000 Right.
01:22:09.000 Well, it's bizarre.
01:22:11.000 I never thought we'd see it.
01:22:12.000 Like during the Casey Anthony trial, nobody was in support of Casey Anthony.
01:22:16.000 Hell no.
01:22:17.000 Now, she could have been proven, well, she kind of was, but like full on innocence.
01:22:22.000 You know, nobody would ever believe that she didn't kill that kid.
01:22:25.000 Which, by the way, I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because you're not even going to believe this is real.
01:22:25.000 Right.
01:22:30.000 But Casey Anthony has chimed in on the Shane Gillis poor joke.
01:22:37.000 Ha ha.
01:22:38.000 Casey Anthony wrote a long piece on Substack about the joke that Shane Gillis said about women dressing like whores on SNL.
01:22:49.000 Casey Anthony.
01:22:50.000 The lady who killed her kid.
01:22:51.000 I know, because it makes you so angry you just want to strangle your loved one.
01:22:55.000 I mean, good Lord, what a moron.
01:22:57.000 Well, not only that, I mean, this lady was, if you wanted to use that term, strangled her kid so she could go out and fucking party.
01:23:06.000 Yeah, women can dress however they want.
01:23:06.000 Yeah.
01:23:08.000 Women.
01:23:09.000 In the gym, men can dress however they want.
01:23:11.000 Men who have opinions about how women dress need to all the way go fuck themselves.
01:23:17.000 This toxic masculinity trend needs to end.
01:23:20.000 These fragile men need to get out of the way of women in totality.
01:23:26.000 This lady killed her kid.
01:23:29.000 Yeah.
01:23:30.000 And she feels like she could take the moral high ground and chime in about a joke on Saturday Night Live.
01:23:38.000 So, wow.
01:23:38.000 Which is really the joke is on Shane.
01:23:41.000 Because the joke is that he looks like a creep in the background of all these TikToks watching these ladies that are wearing nothing doing these exercises.
01:23:49.000 Well, he also didn't call them whores.
01:23:51.000 He just said they dress like it.
01:23:52.000 Yes.
01:23:53.000 Completely different thing.
01:23:54.000 I mean, you know, you can dress like anything.
01:23:57.000 My nephew was dressed like Batman last year.
01:24:01.000 He's not stopping crime.
01:24:03.000 I don't know.
01:24:05.000 I just, I mean, I get, I guess, a little bit of it, but I think people weren't understanding, like, The nuance, or you know, really like thinking about all the way he's thinking.
01:24:15.000 He's just come out there and said, Oh, y'all are all horse or dressing like this.
01:24:18.000 No, no, no, no.
01:24:20.000 And also, you can dress however you want.
01:24:22.000 Who cares?
01:24:23.000 Yeah, who cares?
01:24:24.000 But also, when you do go to a gym, I mean, Jesus.
01:24:28.000 I know.
01:24:29.000 Like, it is kind of hard not to be like, God, what the hell are you?
01:24:32.000 It's kind of crazy.
01:24:33.000 I mean, I've seen ladies at the gym that wear essentially sheer pink, really small shorts with no underwear on.
01:24:43.000 And they're doing deadlifts.
01:24:44.000 And when they're bending over, they're sticking their vagina with the thinnest of cloth out into the air.
01:24:51.000 Oh, I knew one of them was pregnant before she did.
01:24:55.000 I'd say you're about six weeks.
01:24:57.000 And by the way, I have no problem with women dressing like that.
01:25:00.000 Have fun.
01:25:01.000 God bless you.
01:25:02.000 If you have a great body, especially, show it off to the world.
01:25:04.000 Who cares?
01:25:05.000 And don't be afraid to admit that that's what you're doing because that's what guys do.
01:25:09.000 There's no reason to wear a sleeveless shirt versus a sleeve shirt in the gym.
01:25:12.000 You're wearing a sleeveless shirt because you want people to see your arms.
01:25:14.000 Show the guns.
01:25:15.000 Show the guns.
01:25:16.000 There's nothing wrong with that.
01:25:17.000 And nothing wrong with that.
01:25:18.000 And when it wants to wear like skin-tight stuff to show off, who cares?
01:25:21.000 Who cares?
01:25:22.000 I don't care.
01:25:23.000 But I guess the word whore is what gets them.
01:25:27.000 I get it.
01:25:27.000 Yeah.
01:25:29.000 I get you get upset.
01:25:30.000 But it's also because like real misogyny actually exists.
01:25:34.000 Like real women who hate, or real men rather, who hate women do exist.
01:25:39.000 And so when you see a guy joking around about a woman dressing like a whore, you connect it to horrible.
01:25:46.000 Thoughts like horrible actions, like real, actual evil men, yes.
01:25:50.000 That actually, because like there's a lot of men that genuinely hate women.
01:25:54.000 Shane Gillis is not one of them, right?
01:25:56.000 And he's a great guy, it's just a joke.
01:25:58.000 But, but for some people, those words, and then you see like the word police people, which is hilarious.
01:26:05.000 We need to stop using that word, we're still using the word whore.
01:26:08.000 Like, you're not great, it's a great word, it's a great word, yeah.
01:26:13.000 It's a great word for also yourself.
01:26:15.000 Like, like I freely admit that when I did, like, especially.
01:26:19.000 The second iteration of Fear Factor is because I was being a whore.
01:26:23.000 They offered me a fuckload of money to come back in like 2011 and host Fear Factor again.
01:26:28.000 And I'm like, I'm a whore.
01:26:29.000 Let's go.
01:26:31.000 Why not?
01:26:32.000 Oh, I would hold myself out for also far less.
01:26:34.000 Yeah, it's not, I don't think it's a bad word.
01:26:37.000 I just think it has to be used wisely.
01:26:40.000 And, you know, look, it's one of the good things and bad things about the internet is that everyone has an opinion.
01:26:48.000 It's good.
01:26:48.000 It's good.
01:26:49.000 You get to see it all play out, see the chaos, and hopefully the dust will settle and there'll be some clarity and what's real and what's not real.
01:26:57.000 But because of the echo chambers and bubbles that people live in online, there won't be any clarity, you know, because everything is connected to an algorithm and you're only interacting with people that agree with you.
01:27:07.000 And it's like, yeah.
01:27:09.000 Okay.
01:27:10.000 And yeah, you don't know what's actually real or what's not real.
01:27:13.000 Well, that's the real problem.
01:27:14.000 Yeah.
01:27:15.000 Well, and just forming your opinions on, like, I don't know.
01:27:18.000 People are just so opinionated to the point where, like, it's their identity.
01:27:21.000 Like, their take on a certain topic, that is who I am.
01:27:25.000 And every conversation I have, that's going to come up.
01:27:29.000 And I hate those people so much.
01:27:31.000 I do as well.
01:27:32.000 And by the way, that's a new thing.
01:27:34.000 Yeah.
01:27:35.000 I'm older than you, and when I was a kid, that didn't exist.
01:27:39.000 I mean, there were some people that were ideologically.
01:27:42.000 They were ideologically connected to whatever their political party was, but not to the extent that people are today, where flavored every single opinion they have about every aspect of society from paper straws to fucking electric cars to vaccines and healthcare and fucking everything.
01:28:01.000 Everything is connected politically.
01:28:03.000 And if you don't say something about it, then you must be on the opposite side.
01:28:09.000 Silence is violence, Cody Tucker.
01:28:12.000 Silence is violence.
01:28:13.000 Because if I'm silent on something, that automatically means I'm like, I could be silent about it, but still be on your side.
01:28:13.000 Yeah, like you're silent.
01:28:18.000 But no, like, they believe that I'm silent.
01:28:21.000 I remember people getting mad at people that didn't put a black square on their Instagram.
01:28:28.000 Well, yeah, because they didn't stop the violence.
01:28:32.000 They could have stopped it by doing that.
01:28:33.000 With a black square.
01:28:34.000 It would have been nice.
01:28:35.000 The black square would have ended all violence.
01:28:37.000 The whole country just put up a black square.
01:28:39.000 It would have been over.
01:28:40.000 We could have moved into a new timeline.
01:28:42.000 Yeah.
01:28:43.000 Could have.
01:28:43.000 But yeah, I know.
01:28:46.000 It's just that virtue signaling.
01:28:48.000 It is.
01:28:49.000 And it's also this sort of evolution of human thinking that's happening in real time.
01:28:56.000 So you've got this thing, the internet, that gives you immense resources and access to information.
01:29:01.000 But then you also have opinions that are inside this ecosystem that aren't even real.
01:29:07.000 These are bots.
01:29:09.000 There's so many bots.
01:29:11.000 I read an article.
01:29:13.000 There was an article in the New York Times about Elon Musk's ex girlfriend.
01:29:18.000 You know, there's the one that he offered, Ashley St. Clair.
01:29:22.000 He offered her allegedly $40 million.
01:29:26.000 She's his baby mama, right?
01:29:27.000 So she has one of his babies.
01:29:29.000 And she offered him, or he offered her, rather, allegedly $40 million to be quiet, and she said no, and she's blabbing to the world.
01:29:39.000 So she was at one point in time a right wing influencer, and now she is a part of the Democratic Socialists of America.
01:29:47.000 She's joined the DSA, which is fascinating.
01:29:49.000 Quiet to swing.
01:29:50.000 Quiet to swing.
01:29:51.000 Always interesting when people do a complete 180.
01:29:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:29:56.000 But so there's this article that's written in the New York Times and they post about it on Instagram.
01:30:02.000 And I go into the comments.
01:30:04.000 I go, okay, I need to see because I'm saying this is ripe for bots.
01:30:09.000 Like this is going to be a fucking bot farm, like 100%.
01:30:12.000 And it's all it was.
01:30:13.000 It was crazy.
01:30:14.000 It was a lot of them are literally saying the same thing.
01:30:16.000 He could have just given her a billion.
01:30:18.000 Yeah.
01:30:18.000 He's got a trillion dollars.
01:30:19.000 He could have just given her a billion.
01:30:20.000 She would have stayed quiet.
01:30:22.000 And you click on their page and there's no posts and there's.
01:30:27.000 It's locked down.
01:30:28.000 It's a private page.
01:30:30.000 It's a name and a bunch of numbers.
01:30:33.000 Like, this is wild.
01:30:35.000 This is like a fake outrage account, and there's a thousand of them that are posting on this.
01:30:41.000 It's all the same thing.
01:30:42.000 I've had it happen on one of my videos.
01:30:44.000 I had to take it down because I was so like, what is happening right now?
01:30:47.000 It was like one about Henry Ford that I did about him being just a massive asshole and about like his Nazi connections.
01:30:54.000 And it turned into a full, the Holocaust didn't happen.
01:30:54.000 Interesting.
01:30:57.000 Like, it turned into that with thousands.
01:31:00.000 I mean, I've never, like, at that time had anywhere near that kind of attraction.
01:31:04.000 I looked and I was like, It's like, God damn, that one's getting a lot of views.
01:31:07.000 Why is that getting so many views?
01:31:08.000 And we started reading them.
01:31:09.000 It's like, the number's actually this.
01:31:11.000 It's not six million or like, you know, and it's just constant.
01:31:15.000 And some of them were real or at least seem real because it's like, is this a real person saying this?
01:31:19.000 Well, there are levels of sophistication when it comes to bots, especially today with AI.
01:31:25.000 They generate.
01:31:26.000 One of the things you could tell is like how recent the page started.
01:31:31.000 I like to go back to their first post.
01:31:33.000 And a lot of their first post is like six weeks ago.
01:31:36.000 Or a month ago.
01:31:37.000 And then you see that there's no interaction at all.
01:31:41.000 No one's posting.
01:31:42.000 No one's commenting.
01:31:43.000 They have these posts.
01:31:44.000 It's like them with their kid on a swing, them working on a car in the backyard.
01:31:49.000 And it might be AI generated.
01:31:51.000 Or it might be they have taken it from somewhere else.
01:31:54.000 But they can create a page that seems like a real person.
01:31:59.000 And they say a bunch of things that seem like what a real person would say, like really simple captions for each picture.
01:32:07.000 So, there's like levels of sophistication, and then eventually it's going to be ex machina type, you know, levels of sophistication where you're not going to be able to discern whether or not it's a real person commenting or not.
01:32:17.000 No, and you can have the whole world believe something just if you have enough money to pay for enough bots.
01:32:21.000 Yes.
01:32:22.000 Well, it's not even enough money, it's not expensive.
01:32:25.000 That's what's crazy.
01:32:26.000 You could start a bot campaign fairly cheaply and have a bunch of people think, oh my God, people are really mad at Cody Tucker.
01:32:33.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:32:34.000 Like, you could really have people's, and you could shift a lot of the casuals who are just.
01:32:39.000 Barely paying attention, you could shift their perception on you.
01:32:42.000 Yeah.
01:32:43.000 And that's what they're trying to do.
01:32:44.000 And they're certainly trying to do that with Elon.
01:32:47.000 But this thing with, do you think that was Ford Motor Company that was doing this?
01:32:51.000 No, no, no.
01:32:51.000 What do you think there was?
01:32:52.000 There's just this massive rise in Holocaust denial that's happened within just like the last couple of years.
01:32:59.000 Or like any post that has to do, I mean, a lot of it obviously has to do with like the Israel Palestine conflict and like Zionism and all this stuff.
01:33:07.000 And there's a lot of people who just like watch like this one documentary.
01:33:12.000 That disproves the Holocaust.
01:33:16.000 And it's all.
01:33:16.000 That documentary is all a bunch of like.
01:33:18.000 Which documentary is that?
01:33:19.000 It's called Europa, I think.
01:33:21.000 It's like.
01:33:23.000 It's all hogwash.
01:33:24.000 None of it's real.
01:33:25.000 It's just this guy who was a famous Holocaust denier.
01:33:29.000 And now it's just become like the.
01:33:32.000 I don't know.
01:33:33.000 Because it's not even necessarily like a right wing versus left wing thing, you know, where like, oh, all the right wing people are Holocaust deniers or vice versa.
01:33:40.000 It's like groups from everybody.
01:33:42.000 But it's all like.
01:33:43.000 For the most part, younger people like my age or younger, yeah, just don't think it happened.
01:33:49.000 You know what's also interesting, too, is that it's such a disgusting subject that no one legitimate wants to debate someone who doesn't believe in the Holocaust.
01:33:59.000 Right.
01:34:00.000 Like, you don't get a legitimate scholar on World War II who wants to sit down and have a conversation with someone who's a Holocaust denier.
01:34:07.000 It's like you don't platform those people.
01:34:09.000 And so, because of that, like, there's a lot of people who go, oh, they're hiding the truth.
01:34:13.000 Right.
01:34:14.000 Right.
01:34:14.000 Who do you think was the textbooks?
01:34:16.000 It was the.
01:34:16.000 Right.
01:34:17.000 And it's like, wow.
01:34:19.000 But yeah, they didn't.
01:34:20.000 But okay.
01:34:21.000 What is their argument?
01:34:22.000 Their argument is that it's less number, that the number's lower.
01:34:26.000 It's the number that pops up every single time.
01:34:28.000 And that's why I started realizing it might be bots, is because every one of them was saying 271,000.
01:34:34.000 Like every post, or 217,000 is one too.
01:34:36.000 So they think that's the number.
01:34:38.000 How do they come to that?
01:34:40.000 Apparently, that's what in the documentary, that's what the guy comes to by crunching the numbers on the amount of Jews in the area or something.
01:34:51.000 I don't know.
01:34:52.000 But it's absolutely absurd.
01:34:55.000 So do you think that's a foreign country that is.
01:34:58.000 Doing this bot attack?
01:35:00.000 Like, what do you think?
01:35:01.000 Because, like, if you were anti Israel, like if you were against Israel's policies and you were a foreign country, if you're whatever, fill in the blank, Palestine, Pakistan, whatever it is.
01:35:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:35:12.000 You get some Muslim country that wants to fund some sort of anti Israel thing, and then you would go after the core reason why people have sympathy for the Jews in modern society is because they were almost exterminated in Germany.
01:35:28.000 I mean, basically, the reason Israel exists is because.
01:35:32.000 You know, after because of the hawkers, and yeah, so that would be the way to do it.
01:35:38.000 I mean, and I just think there's a lot of people, uh, who yeah, just believe it because they read it on the internet, they see the meme saying blah blah blah, and they just outright believe it.
01:35:48.000 I think bots should be illegal.
01:35:52.000 I really don't care because I'm sure there's a lot of bots that follow me on social.
01:35:56.000 Oh, I know there.
01:35:57.000 I mean, I don't know what the number is, but I'm sure I would guess it's probably about 25%.
01:36:01.000 Let my number drop, I don't care if my numbers drop or I don't care if my money goes down, get rid of it.
01:36:06.000 Get rid of bots.
01:36:08.000 I've always felt that you should have to have an ID to be able to prove who you are to be able to create an account on any social media platform.
01:36:16.000 I agree.
01:36:17.000 I think there are dating apps that do it when you have to take a picture of your ID and then you go through a vetting process.
01:36:25.000 That should be the same with Instagram, Facebook.
01:36:27.000 The problem with that is whistleblowers.
01:36:30.000 I think that there is a legit argument that, especially if you're an Edward Snowden or Chelsea Manning type person who has access to information that Is highly classified, but you don't want to reveal your identity, but people need to know.
01:36:46.000 Like, there's a crime being committed on the American people or the people of the world or whatever.
01:36:51.000 You know, the whistleblower thing, protections for whistleblowers, was a key part of the Obama campaign when he was running for office, protection for whistleblowers.
01:37:01.000 Meanwhile, he was like one of the worst people ever that was president, which is kind of funny.
01:37:07.000 But they also even removed that part from the Hope and Change website.
01:37:11.000 So the Hope and Change website had this whole thing about whistleblowers.
01:37:16.000 Deleted that.
01:37:17.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:37:18.000 Cat came out of the bag on that one.
01:37:20.000 Good Lord.
01:37:21.000 So that's the argument against having to show identification is that it's probably important that some people be able to post anonymous because there's very powerful people that would try to take them out.
01:37:33.000 Right.
01:37:34.000 No, no.
01:37:35.000 I do believe in anonymity for whistleblowers.
01:37:38.000 But how do you do that and then also have an ID to post?
01:37:42.000 No, you can't.
01:37:43.000 But I mean, you can just whistleblow the old fashioned way and just write it to a newspaper that only about.
01:37:49.000 40 people are going to read now because nobody reads newspapers.
01:37:52.000 Unfortunately, you can't even count on the newspaper printing that.
01:37:55.000 Well, no, no.
01:37:56.000 Depending upon what you're revealing and what ideology would be opposed to that and whether or not this newspaper ascribes to that ideology.
01:38:05.000 Yeah.
01:38:06.000 Yeah.
01:38:07.000 Yeah.
01:38:07.000 I mean, which that's kind of always been a problem, too.
01:38:09.000 But if you went back to, like, you know, all the president's men, you know, Nixon Watergate stuff, like, at least, you know, they were able to do that.
01:38:17.000 Well, that was one of the most disturbing things about Elon purchasing Twitter when they let, like, Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taibbi, and all these journalists review the emails that were with the executives at Twitter were in contact with the intelligence agencies.
01:38:36.000 And that the intelligence agencies were actively censoring accounts, were directing them to remove accounts.
01:38:42.000 They were posting factual information, but that was inconvenient towards the COVID policies of the Biden administration.
01:38:50.000 So they were actively.
01:38:51.000 Censoring legitimate scientists from Stanford, MIT, like legit people.
01:38:57.000 And they were like, uh uh, ban them, take them off.
01:39:00.000 Yeah.
01:39:01.000 Yeah, whatever.
01:39:01.000 Scary.
01:39:02.000 Yeah.
01:39:03.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know if there's really any real right way of going about any.
01:39:07.000 I mean, we may be doing it the best, the most right way that it could be done, which that's terrifying if that's true.
01:39:13.000 I don't.
01:39:15.000 Well, I think there has to be a way to tell if something is a bot, and you should have some sort of filters.
01:39:24.000 In your system, at least to mitigate the bots, to get to a point where you can't just have a letter and a name and a bunch of fucking numbers and have 50,000 of those accounts and bomb on someone's account because Henry Ford was a Nazi.
01:39:40.000 Or just, I guess that doesn't work either.
01:39:42.000 I was saying just have it where you're vetted and then only people who have been vetted can comment.
01:39:48.000 But at the same time, that doesn't necessarily work because if a person's a whistleblower, you're right.
01:39:53.000 It ruins that.
01:39:53.000 That's the problem.
01:39:54.000 Yeah.
01:39:54.000 Yeah.
01:39:55.000 The problem is, anonymity is important when you're revealing something, especially when you're revealing something about a government or corporation where they could whack you.
01:40:04.000 You know, it's like, I think, God, I don't want to say it, but I think the best way to do it is just ignore the comments and just let them.
01:40:12.000 But there's a bunch of people who don't do that, and it does artificially alter public opinion on things.
01:40:19.000 Yeah.
01:40:20.000 Yeah.
01:40:20.000 Which is, that was why, like, for that post, I just took it down because I was like, oh, I'm not going to go through and sift out all these comments.
01:40:26.000 Did you think about just banning the comments?
01:40:28.000 Just blocking comments.
01:40:30.000 Oh, disabling comments.
01:40:32.000 No, not until right now.
01:40:34.000 That might have been the best way to do it.
01:40:36.000 I probably should have done that.
01:40:37.000 Because I remember that post.
01:40:38.000 Yeah.
01:40:39.000 It was an interesting post.
01:40:40.000 Yeah.
01:40:41.000 Does it exist anymore, anywhere?
01:40:42.000 No.
01:40:43.000 Wow.
01:40:44.000 No.
01:40:44.000 They got me.
01:40:45.000 They got me.
01:40:45.000 They got you.
01:40:46.000 I know, I was infiltrated.
01:40:47.000 Maybe that's how the people that are pro Holocaust narrative do it.
01:40:54.000 They put in so many scumbags that if you agree to, if you follow what they're saying, you're a terrible person.
01:41:01.000 And people don't want to do that.
01:41:01.000 Yes.
01:41:03.000 And so they're shaming you.
01:41:05.000 For posting it.
01:41:05.000 Yeah.
01:41:07.000 Wild.
01:41:07.000 Jesus.
01:41:08.000 It's not good.
01:41:09.000 Yeah, no, I probably should have just taken out the comments.
01:41:09.000 Nah.
01:41:12.000 How bad was Henry Ford, though?
01:41:14.000 It's just not a good person overall.
01:41:16.000 Is this it?
01:41:16.000 Oh.
01:41:18.000 Where does it exist?
01:41:19.000 YouTube Shorts.
01:41:20.000 YouTube Shorts.
01:41:21.000 YouTube Shorts.
01:41:22.000 Let's put the headshots on.
01:41:23.000 Do you want to check the comments?
01:41:25.000 Start from the beginning.
01:41:26.000 Start from the beginning.
01:41:27.000 Here we go.
01:41:34.000 Henry Ford revolutionized the automobile industry with his moving assembly line, allowing for the manufacturing of the Model T to go from 12 hours per car to 90 minutes per car.
01:41:45.000 At that point, they were making 10,000 Model Ts a day.
01:41:50.000 He also doubled his employees' wages and basically created a new middle class in America.
01:41:55.000 Despite all of this, Henry Ford was also a massive anti Semite.
01:42:00.000 In 1920, Henry Ford began publishing a weekly magazine called The International Jew The World's Problem.
01:42:08.000 Henry Ford's views on the Jewish population struck a nerve with a young man in Austria who included Henry Ford in his manifesto Mein Kampf.
01:42:17.000 Henry Ford was the only American complimented in that book written by a young Adolf Hitler.
01:42:23.000 Henry Ford even received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest German award for foreigners, by Adolf Hitler himself.
01:42:32.000 That's wild.
01:42:33.000 Click on the comments, please.
01:42:35.000 Yeah.
01:42:35.000 Let's go.
01:42:36.000 Here we go.
01:42:37.000 What does it say here?
01:42:39.000 Oh, for the second one.
01:42:40.000 Henry Ford, a man ahead of time.
01:42:42.000 Well, I bet they're not talking about the first part.
01:42:45.000 It always feels like we've forgotten more than we remember.
01:42:48.000 Thank you.
01:42:48.000 I live in Detroit, and ooh, boy, is this topic taboo.
01:42:52.000 I wonder why.
01:42:53.000 The irony is that whenever the war broke out, the same Henry Ford revolutionized the manufacturing of warplanes.
01:43:01.000 Other admirers of that little mustache Austrian painter were Disney, King Edward VIII, Duke of Windsor, Wallace Simpson.
01:43:10.000 Yeah, Charles Lindbergh was a massive Nazi.
01:43:13.000 Whoa.
01:43:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:43:16.000 No way.
01:43:17.000 Mm hmm.
01:43:19.000 So this isn't as bad.
01:43:20.000 Oh, this one's nowhere near as bad.
01:43:22.000 It seems like.
01:43:22.000 Stop, stop, stop.
01:43:23.000 Let's go back up.
01:43:25.000 Some of these seem like bots.
01:43:28.000 Yeah.
01:43:32.000 I mean, Ford was.
01:43:33.000 I don't know.
01:43:34.000 Ford was a great man.
01:43:34.000 I mean, the My Type of Guy thing is very.
01:43:38.000 Yeah.
01:43:39.000 It could be shit posters.
01:43:40.000 Well, yeah, which I think that's a lot of it too.
01:43:43.000 Yeah, who knows?
01:43:45.000 Who knows?
01:43:46.000 It's got Lionel Richie in his fucking image.
01:43:50.000 So it seems like it's more of a social media thing than a YouTube thing where the comments were, but God, a lot of those seem like bots.
01:43:57.000 Yeah, they do.
01:43:57.000 These names with all the, when you see names like that with a bunch of numbers behind it, I have so much more respect for Henry now.
01:44:05.000 That's the one, yeah, I saw the top.
01:44:07.000 But these are definitely nowhere near as bad.
01:44:10.000 I mean, nowhere near as bad, but the same thing.
01:44:14.000 I have more respect for him, but look at what it is.
01:44:17.000 It's the same thing.
01:44:18.000 It's these names with a bunch of numbers.
01:44:20.000 Yeah.
01:44:21.000 Yeah.
01:44:21.000 Almost all of them are.
01:44:22.000 I mean, there was an article we've referenced many times where a former FBI analyst was looking at Twitter before Elon Musk purchased it, and he determined that it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% bots.
01:44:38.000 Really?
01:44:39.000 Because they were trying to say that it was 5%.
01:44:42.000 And they did that by a 100-post random sampling.
01:44:47.000 So they just randomly got, allegedly randomly.
01:44:49.000 But if you're trying to sell something for $4 billion or whatever he paid for it, is it $40 billion?
01:44:55.000 What do you pay for it?
01:44:56.000 For Twitter?
01:44:57.000 Something crazy.
01:44:58.000 $44 billion?
01:44:59.000 $44 billion.
01:45:00.000 So if you're selling something for $44 billion, the last thing you want to do is find out that it's mostly just robots yelling into the abyss.
01:45:07.000 Yeah.
01:45:09.000 But this CIA guy or this FBI guy said he estimated at the high end it's in the 80%.
01:45:16.000 I mean, that seems so high, but probably.
01:45:19.000 But it makes sense, though.
01:45:20.000 It's probably right, yeah.
01:45:21.000 If you think about it, that's the town hall.
01:45:23.000 And propaganda has always been a thing.
01:45:25.000 You know, distributing leaflets, putting propaganda films out, all this.
01:45:29.000 That's always been a thing.
01:45:30.000 So why wouldn't you utilize, like, the greatest vehicle of propaganda the world has ever seen and just have an army of people comment on things?
01:45:43.000 Makes sense.
01:45:44.000 Yeah.
01:45:44.000 Manufactured outrage.
01:45:46.000 Yes, which is what most things are now.
01:45:48.000 It's like manufactured outrage or manufactured.
01:45:52.000 Like, I feel like most things that are so popular now, there's no way that's authentic.
01:45:57.000 Like, what kind of stuff?
01:45:58.000 Like, certain movies will make just an astronomical amount of money.
01:46:01.000 I'm like, I don't think that many people want to see that movie.
01:46:04.000 Like that new Spider Man movie, the brand new day, it's like broke every record.
01:46:08.000 I'm like, who the hell went to go see that, though?
01:46:10.000 You'd be amazed.
01:46:11.000 People love superhero movies.
01:46:13.000 Or like the Ella Langley, you know, that muse, that song.
01:46:16.000 Nothing against her, nothing against the song.
01:46:18.000 But it's like beating all these records.
01:46:19.000 I'm like, I don't know a single person who's sitting around listening to that.
01:46:21.000 But maybe also.
01:46:22.000 I listen to that song.
01:46:23.000 Okay.
01:46:24.000 You should go to a bar on 6th Street.
01:46:24.000 I like it.
01:46:25.000 Yeah.
01:46:26.000 Okay.
01:46:26.000 Is it really?
01:46:27.000 Well, that's not popular as far as that.
01:46:29.000 Yeah, maybe it makes.
01:46:30.000 I think maybe I'm just.
01:46:32.000 I'm not the best person to even talk about that kind of stuff because I'm in a dang one person bubble.
01:46:36.000 Yeah, you're in a bubble.
01:46:37.000 Have you ever seen her?
01:46:39.000 There's a film of her, a video of her getting ready to go on stage, and she's walking through the backstage area, and that song, Staying Alive, is playing, and she's dancing.
01:46:49.000 It does little kicks and stuff.
01:46:51.000 Very compelling.
01:46:52.000 It is.
01:46:53.000 Isn't it weird how that video is so captivating?
01:46:56.000 Because I've watched so many.
01:46:58.000 Here it plays.
01:46:59.000 I've watched this video.
01:47:01.000 Oh, because of the song.
01:47:03.000 Yeah.
01:47:03.000 On that note, I'll talk to you later.
01:47:06.000 Never mind.
01:47:07.000 Okay.
01:47:09.000 You want to just tell me now and edit it out?
01:47:10.000 Yeah, yeah, just what?
01:47:11.000 You and LL Cool Jay reciting the lyrics to going back to Cali got flagged.
01:47:16.000 Oh, my God.
01:47:16.000 That's how the flags work.
01:47:17.000 God.
01:47:17.000 It's like because you recited the lyrics.
01:47:19.000 Oh, my God.
01:47:20.000 These fucking criminals.
01:47:22.000 Was he reciting them?
01:47:23.000 Yeah, both of us.
01:47:24.000 Yeah, both of us.
01:47:25.000 But he probably doesn't own the.
01:47:27.000 No, it doesn't.
01:47:28.000 It's not.
01:47:30.000 It's just the flag itself.
01:47:31.000 That's fucking bananas.
01:47:32.000 Bananas.
01:47:34.000 Wow.
01:47:34.000 It's a weird world we're living in, man.
01:47:36.000 Yes.
01:47:38.000 If you hum a song.
01:47:40.000 Like, you know that song?
01:47:42.000 Is it, I'm not going to sing.
01:47:44.000 I don't even talk about songs anymore.
01:47:46.000 Is it the, is it the, the, the lyric, is it sunshine of my life?
01:47:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:47:52.000 You guys have done that a lot.
01:47:53.000 I do that all the time.
01:47:54.000 Like, whenever I think about someone like really high on drugs, I always like make that noise.
01:48:00.000 And if you can't, well, I'll make it real quick and then we'll edit it, right?
01:48:03.000 Here we go.
01:48:04.000 Sunshine of your love.
01:48:05.000 Yeah, sunshine of your love.
01:48:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:48:06.000 Cream.
01:48:06.000 So, Cream, right.
01:48:08.000 Cash rules over there.
01:48:08.000 So when, if you do that on a podcast, they'll flag you.
01:48:12.000 Just do that.
01:48:13.000 That's so crazy.
01:48:15.000 Crazy.
01:48:16.000 Oh, my God.
01:48:17.000 Crazy.
01:48:17.000 I'm amazed mine hasn't.
01:48:19.000 Because I have a movie podcast.
01:48:21.000 One of our categories is called Creeded and Weep, where you have to place the Creed song, arguably the greatest song ever written, My Own Prison by Creed, somewhere in the movie.
01:48:32.000 Where do you put it?
01:48:32.000 And we always end up singing the song.
01:48:35.000 But never get to that.
01:48:35.000 They probably haven't got you yet.
01:48:37.000 They'll find you.
01:48:38.000 I don't know.
01:48:38.000 We do a good job.
01:48:39.000 They're going to get you now.
01:48:40.000 Yeah.
01:48:40.000 Now that you're talking about it here, they're going to get you.
01:48:43.000 I know.
01:48:43.000 Yeah.
01:48:44.000 I shouldn't have mentioned this.
01:48:46.000 But that Choosing Texas song is huge.
01:48:48.000 No, it is.
01:48:49.000 It's huge.
01:48:50.000 There's something about this world that is so chaotic that it has made simplicity much more attractive, and country music is making a giant comeback.
01:49:01.000 Oh, my God.
01:49:01.000 A huge resurgence.
01:49:02.000 Yes.
01:49:03.000 It's because people want, like, they want to be by the river with a pickup truck and with, you know, just having a good time and praising Jesus, and they want simplicity.
01:49:15.000 They want things to be clearly defined and they want to take away the anxiety of the unknown because the anxiety of the unknown is looming over us constantly like a fog, like that giant sky demon from Stranger Things.
01:49:31.000 Yeah.
01:49:31.000 You know that fucking thing?
01:49:32.000 Oh, yeah.
01:49:32.000 That's like looming.
01:49:33.000 That's what our future, our uncertain future, and this technological hell that we have unleashed on the world.
01:49:45.000 They long for the opposite of that.
01:49:47.000 They long for Yellowstone.
01:49:49.000 They long for cowboy shows.
01:49:50.000 They long for things to be simple.
01:49:52.000 That's a bit.
01:49:53.000 No, I do agree with that where people just want to have land and people want to occupy their land and they want to raise families on their land.
01:50:03.000 It's like 90% of homesteading.
01:50:03.000 There's that.
01:50:06.000 Yeah.
01:50:07.000 But I think with music, though, it's kind of interesting because, like, I mean, you could kind of say that about any time.
01:50:12.000 Like the 60s, when was there ever a more, like, what the hell's about to happen to us?
01:50:18.000 But then that was some of the most original music ever made and some of the most complex music ever made at that point.
01:50:24.000 Sure.
01:50:24.000 So it was like the chaos turned into chaotic music.
01:50:30.000 Whereas now the uncertainty has turned into.
01:50:34.000 God dang, I just want to make sure this music sounds the same.
01:50:36.000 I want to know what I'm getting before I get it.
01:50:39.000 Like, well, now people just suck at making music now, too.
01:50:42.000 I don't know about that.
01:50:43.000 Not, not, well, no, not in like overall, but I think what gets pushed to the top is more like that.
01:50:49.000 I think people, like whoever's, you know, marketing music, whatever company, you know, whether it's Sony, whoever, they're way less likely to take a risk on someone.
01:51:00.000 And they just know, like, okay, this worked the past 15 times.
01:51:04.000 Well, let's go and do 16th.
01:51:06.000 And do it that way.
01:51:07.000 Where I think that wasn't always the case.
01:51:10.000 I mean, you could definitely say there was like the pop, you know, bubblegum pop of the 60s, where it's just how many versions of the Dave Clark 5 can we make?
01:51:20.000 And then, but occasionally they would bust out, like, you know, like the Doors or, you know, Big Brother and the Hole and Company or something.
01:51:26.000 Now I don't think there's any version of that.
01:51:29.000 Well, I don't know if that's true.
01:51:31.000 No.
01:51:32.000 Because I think that today, one of the very unique things about today is that you don't need anyone for you to go viral.
01:51:40.000 All you have to do is be able to post it online.
01:51:42.000 Like Oliver Anthony is a great example of that.
01:51:44.000 He comes up with Rich Men North of Richmond and it becomes this fucking massive hit, like out of nowhere.
01:51:51.000 And it turns out he's actually really fucking talented and stays independent and does it all on his own.
01:51:57.000 Yeah.
01:51:58.000 I think those are very few and far between.
01:52:01.000 But they exist and they didn't exist before.
01:52:03.000 So in the 60s, you couldn't do that.
01:52:06.000 If you were going to release an album, you had to go through a music company, you had to go through a record company, you had to have an agent, you had to have a manager.
01:52:13.000 You had to have all these, there were gatekeepers to keep you from getting on the radio.
01:52:17.000 You couldn't just have a song and bring it to the radio station and say, hey, would you play my song?
01:52:22.000 That's not how it worked.
01:52:23.000 No, no, you had to bring it, yeah, you had to bring your demo to a label and then the label took care of the rest.
01:52:28.000 Oliver Anthony's first time performing live was in front of like 12,000 people.
01:52:35.000 Jesus Christ.
01:52:37.000 So he's a guy who like makes a song literally like in a field with a fucking cool guitar.
01:52:44.000 And sings his song, and it resonated with people so strongly that they just went out to see him in droves.
01:52:51.000 That is, but he's a very unique talent.
01:52:54.000 But it's also like that thing now exists where it never existed before.
01:52:59.000 And there are people like that out there.
01:53:02.000 There's a bunch of other ones that are really interesting that are popping off like left and right all over the place in that way, just resonate with people.
01:53:11.000 I need to actually listen to some newer music.
01:53:15.000 Because I never do.
01:53:16.000 I'm so stuck in older music.
01:53:19.000 Have you ever heard his song, Scornful Woman?
01:53:23.000 Oliver Anthony's?
01:53:24.000 You played it for me.
01:53:24.000 Yeah.
01:53:25.000 That's right.
01:53:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:53:27.000 Yeah, that was amazing.
01:53:28.000 Whoa.
01:53:29.000 Yeah, I've seen previews.
01:53:31.000 That was so good.
01:53:32.000 No, he is amazing.
01:53:33.000 And there are some people for sure.
01:53:35.000 I just feel like talent has, I don't know, there's something that just feels too robotic about music.
01:53:43.000 Like whenever I hear songs now, It sounds like it's made on a laptop.
01:53:48.000 Mm hmm.
01:53:48.000 Like, even, but like, it's almost like too well produced.
01:53:51.000 Whereas, if I listen to like Van Halen 1, I can hear the times where Eddie Van Halen fucks up.
01:53:56.000 Even though he's the greatest good artist of all time.
01:53:56.000 Right, right, right.
01:53:58.000 Like, I want to hear the imperfections in that.
01:54:00.000 And now you would have a producer go through and cut out every little thing, and it doesn't even sound like a person anymore.
01:54:08.000 So there's something that just feels like an uncanny valley about music now.
01:54:08.000 Right.
01:54:13.000 Movies have become that way, even.
01:54:16.000 Well, there's a lot of AI clips that I watch now on YouTube with these short AI movies like Dracula versus the Wolfman.
01:54:26.000 Yes.
01:54:27.000 And they're really clunky.
01:54:28.000 They're clunky, and the graphics are kind of a little shitty.
01:54:32.000 They're really good, but not good enough.
01:54:34.000 Like, you don't think it's real.
01:54:35.000 Right.
01:54:36.000 But I'm just fascinated that a regular person gets to do these things.
01:54:42.000 It's really weird.
01:54:43.000 Yeah.
01:54:44.000 I mean, there's part of me that thinks that's a good thing, but part of me that doesn't.
01:54:48.000 Sometimes I feel like there needs to be a bottleneck, you know, where I think, yeah, I don't know.
01:54:52.000 I feel like less is more almost always.
01:54:55.000 Well, it's definitely going to be hard to find the quality things.
01:54:58.000 But I think that the quality things are going to exist where they wouldn't have existed before.
01:55:03.000 Like, someone who's just a very creative person and has an idea.
01:55:06.000 That would have cost millions and millions of dollars to produce instead is just sitting at home with a laptop and an LLM, and they feed it into that.
01:55:16.000 And next thing you know, you've got this really cool creative video that came out of their imagination that wouldn't have been possible.
01:55:23.000 But the amount of those versus the amount of bullshit is crazy.
01:55:28.000 That's the problem.
01:55:29.000 And I think that's a big problem with music, too, is that there's just so much.
01:55:34.000 Well, that's why live performance is so awesome.
01:55:37.000 Yes.
01:55:38.000 Like going to see a live musician.
01:55:40.000 You know, like Oliver Anthony played at our club.
01:55:40.000 Yeah.
01:55:43.000 He played at the club.
01:55:44.000 I saw that.
01:55:44.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:45.000 We've only had two awesome bands play there Oliver Anthony, his band, and Red Clay Strays.
01:55:45.000 Yeah.
01:55:50.000 They're amazing.
01:55:51.000 Amazing.
01:55:51.000 So that's like one of the few bands that I do actively listen to that's a modern.
01:55:56.000 Lead singer, also Android user.
01:55:58.000 Boss.
01:55:59.000 Doesn't give a fuck.
01:55:59.000 There you go.
01:56:01.000 Yeah.
01:56:01.000 No, I feel like there's quite a bit of, maybe quite a little overlap between him and Oliver.
01:56:05.000 There's a rebellion thing about Android users.
01:56:08.000 It is interesting.
01:56:09.000 Yeah.
01:56:09.000 There's a bunch of people that I know that are.
01:56:12.000 Brian Simpson, Android user.
01:56:13.000 See?
01:56:14.000 Andrew Wilson, Android user.
01:56:15.000 There's a bunch of people that are like, you know, just unwilling, unwilling to give in to the call of the siren.
01:56:23.000 Exactly.
01:56:24.000 No, I'm strapped to the damn mast at this point.
01:56:28.000 Yeah.
01:56:28.000 I'm not.
01:56:30.000 Yeah.
01:56:30.000 Well, I feel like if I changed it now, I'd be a real dickhead.
01:56:34.000 Well, that's a problem with committing to something like that.
01:56:38.000 Because if you tried an Apple iPhone and you realize, oh my God, this is so much easier to use and better and it does things for.
01:56:47.000 I don't want to even think about that.
01:56:50.000 You'd give up on the convenience?
01:56:52.000 What if it was able to do things that you couldn't do without it?
01:56:56.000 I'm not that interested in convenience.
01:56:58.000 I don't really need convenience.
01:56:59.000 No, because I don't do anything else.
01:57:01.000 So I have the time to be having a less convenient life.
01:57:06.000 Do you ever think that you will make your life more complicated?
01:57:10.000 Do you ever see yourself having a family or anything like that?
01:57:13.000 Oh, geez.
01:57:14.000 Oh, it's entirely possible.
01:57:15.000 There may already be one now.
01:57:17.000 How old are you now?
01:57:19.000 Third.
01:57:19.000 32.
01:57:20.000 Do you think about it someday that you have a little Cody running around?
01:57:25.000 Man, I don't know.
01:57:28.000 Maybe.
01:57:28.000 I don't know.
01:57:29.000 I feel like I'd probably be an all right dad.
01:57:31.000 I'm sure you're a nice guy.
01:57:32.000 I'm sure you'd be a great dad.
01:57:34.000 It would change you.
01:57:36.000 It'll change you.
01:57:37.000 I don't know about it in a bad way.
01:57:40.000 But I won't be able to do it whatever I want to do.
01:57:43.000 Whatever I want.
01:57:44.000 You won't.
01:57:45.000 That's true.
01:57:45.000 That's true.
01:57:46.000 Yes, I'm a big, like.
01:57:48.000 But you will love this child more than you've ever loved anything in your life.
01:57:52.000 It'll change your life.
01:57:53.000 I'm ready for that.
01:57:55.000 You don't have to.
01:57:56.000 I'm not encouraging you.
01:57:57.000 I'm not trying to be a parent.
01:57:58.000 For a person who is a father, I'm not encouraging.
01:58:01.000 I think I do not like the idea that the only way to live a fulfilling life is to be a parent.
01:58:07.000 I think that is, I think any sort of reductionist perspective on a person's life and purpose is ridiculous.
01:58:17.000 There's a lot of people that have never had children that have greatly impacted the human race.
01:58:21.000 Oh, for sure.
01:58:22.000 In a super positive way.
01:58:23.000 Yeah.
01:58:23.000 And had wonderful relationships and friendships, and people love them and miss them, and they genuinely changed the world.
01:58:30.000 You don't have to have children.
01:58:32.000 No, but in all seriousness, I probably will at some point.
01:58:35.000 Yeah.
01:58:35.000 I'm sure.
01:58:37.000 I think you'd be a good husband, good dad.
01:58:43.000 You might have to leave your town to find a lady right now?
01:58:47.000 Yeah.
01:58:48.000 Oh, well, good.
01:58:49.000 Congratulations.
01:58:50.000 Yeah.
01:58:50.000 Does she want to have little ones?
01:58:52.000 Little Cody?
01:58:52.000 She already does.
01:58:53.000 Well, she doesn't already have little Cody's.
01:58:53.000 She already does.
01:58:55.000 She has children already?
01:58:56.000 Yeah.
01:58:57.000 So, I mean, I guess I kind of don't have a choice in that matter.
01:59:00.000 I mean, yeah.
01:59:01.000 No.
01:59:02.000 No, it's all going to work out pretty good.
01:59:05.000 Well, I'm glad you're.
01:59:07.000 Yeah.
01:59:08.000 Well, I don't really have much of a choice.
01:59:09.000 Yeah.
01:59:10.000 Yeah.
01:59:10.000 Kind of be hopeful or dread life.
01:59:13.000 I'm not too interested in that.
01:59:15.000 Well, people are always worried about the uncertainty and the unknown.
01:59:19.000 And like we were talking about before, I really genuinely think that's why there's this genuine trend, a clear trend toward like simplistic music and simplistic lifestyles.
01:59:30.000 And certainly during COVID, a lot of people like turned to homesteading.
01:59:34.000 And they realized like, oh, we might not be able to have food, which by the way, I saw.
01:59:34.000 Yes.
01:59:39.000 Maybe the worst movie I've ever seen in my life the other day.
01:59:43.000 Okay.
01:59:44.000 I think it's called The Last House.
01:59:45.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
01:59:49.000 Yeah, you know, wait.
01:59:50.000 Is that?
01:59:50.000 It kind of looked interesting.
01:59:51.000 Wait, wait, hold on.
01:59:52.000 The Last House?
01:59:53.000 Are you sure that's what it was called?
01:59:54.000 I think that's what it's called.
01:59:55.000 Yeah, it just came out.
01:59:57.000 Yeah.
01:59:59.000 Okay.
02:00:00.000 It's good for a while.
02:00:02.000 The ending is maybe the worst ending of any movie of all time.
02:00:06.000 It's almost like they ran out of.
02:00:08.000 Yeah, this is it.
02:00:08.000 Oh, this is it.
02:00:09.000 Yes, Little In the house by aliens.
02:00:15.000 So, aliens won't let you leave the house.
02:00:17.000 You can't break the windows.
02:00:18.000 You can't open the door for whatever fucking reason that makes no sense whatsoever.
02:00:22.000 And then these aliens are like these big squid things that are like octopus things that hang out outside your door.
02:00:28.000 And then most people starve to death because they can't leave the house.
02:00:31.000 But there's one family, the dad's an engineer.
02:00:34.000 They figure out a way to trap animals and drag them back into the house.
02:00:38.000 And then they survive somehow or another.
02:00:40.000 But there's these monsters that live out there.
02:00:44.000 I don't want to spoiler it for anybody, but it's so, the ending is so fucking dumb.
02:00:50.000 You're just going to go, what happened here?
02:00:53.000 And by the way, that guy who's the lead actor is the guy who played Pablo Escobar.
02:00:57.000 Yeah, Narcos.
02:00:58.000 And he was nominated for an Oscar last year for some, I can't remember.
02:01:01.000 He's fucking great.
02:01:03.000 No, he is.
02:01:03.000 He's amazing.
02:01:04.000 Holy shit, is this movie bad.
02:01:06.000 How long do you think you'd be lasting in that?
02:01:10.000 In that kind of a world?
02:01:11.000 Trapped in a house?
02:01:11.000 You're lasting in that.
02:01:12.000 Trapped in a house is not good.
02:01:14.000 You got all kinds of stock.
02:01:15.000 Yeah, for good, you go, okay, good for a year?
02:01:18.000 What are you good for, two years?
02:01:19.000 And then you're going to need food.
02:01:20.000 You're going to need to get out of the house.
02:01:22.000 There's no way you're going to be able to live in your.
02:01:24.000 The premise of the movie is ridiculous.
02:01:26.000 And they throw a trap out of the chimney, and that's how they catch animals on the front porch.
02:01:26.000 Yeah.
02:01:32.000 It's the dumbest fucking.
02:01:33.000 That's pretty good.
02:01:34.000 It's kind of okay.
02:01:34.000 Good thinking.
02:01:36.000 Like, maybe it kind of would work, but it's the ending.
02:01:38.000 I don't want to give away the ending.
02:01:40.000 The ending, you're just going to go, what the fuck just happened?
02:01:43.000 I wouldn't laugh.
02:01:44.000 One of the monsters is a good monster, and it tells them, don't kill these people, and it opens the door and lets them out.
02:01:50.000 After like six years.
02:01:51.000 Wait, so that's the ending?
02:01:52.000 Oh, yeah!
02:01:53.000 And then they never see the monsters again.
02:01:56.000 And then they go sailing.
02:01:57.000 It's the dumbest fucking ending you'll ever see in a movie.
02:02:00.000 So now they're trapped on a boat.
02:02:02.000 Well, they're going to go around and eventually find other people that live too.
02:02:06.000 Oh, God.
02:02:07.000 But there's maybe like 30 people left on Earth.
02:02:09.000 And by the way, these monsters, they never see them again.
02:02:12.000 That's also part of the thing.
02:02:14.000 Meanwhile, they're everywhere in the beginning.
02:02:17.000 Every time it gets dark out and rains, these monsters are outside their house and they have to cover the windows or the monsters will see them.
02:02:23.000 And then one day the monsters enter in the house and try to kill them.
02:02:26.000 And then they fight with the monster and then don't kill the monster, and that monster decides they're a good guy.
02:02:31.000 And so he lets them out.
02:02:33.000 I don't like any of this.
02:02:34.000 Dude, it's so bad.
02:02:36.000 The ending, you're going, what in the fuck did I just watch?
02:02:40.000 I wouldn't make it three days.
02:02:42.000 I can't ration.
02:02:44.000 So I'd be really.
02:02:45.000 You just eat all the potato chips and that stuff.
02:02:47.000 Oh, everything.
02:02:48.000 I mean, I have plenty of things and I could survive, but I'd get way too hungry.
02:02:52.000 But if you knew, do you think you would change your behavior?
02:02:55.000 Or would you say, like, let's just.
02:02:56.000 It's too embedded.
02:02:57.000 I've lived this way way too long.
02:02:59.000 Until the wheels fall off.
02:03:00.000 Let's go.
02:03:01.000 I mean, might as well.
02:03:03.000 I have a clean bill of health as far as my doctor goes.
02:03:05.000 I might as well go out with a clean bill of health.
02:03:08.000 What if you found yourself out in the woods and there was no one anywhere around you?
02:03:14.000 You woke up and you're in a cabin, but you have a rifle, a large amount of bullets, firewood, some sort of a wood stove, and water.
02:03:24.000 Do you think you'd live?
02:03:25.000 No.
02:03:25.000 So I would take the rifle and put it right there.
02:03:29.000 I mean, I would.
02:03:30.000 I would look out the windows and I would maybe like whistle.
02:03:33.000 What if there's a bunch of books, like really cool books in the cabin, and all you had to do is just figure out a way to shoot some squirrels, stay alive?
02:03:40.000 Ugh.
02:03:41.000 It wouldn't be worth it.
02:03:43.000 I don't want any squirrels.
02:03:44.000 Nah, I think I'd just send it.
02:03:46.000 Yeah.
02:03:46.000 We just did not.
02:03:48.000 Wow.
02:03:49.000 I need to.
02:03:49.000 Yeah.
02:03:50.000 I want an easy life, you know.
02:03:52.000 I'm not meant for a difficult life.
02:03:56.000 I've ruined myself, you know.
02:03:56.000 No.
02:03:58.000 Physically.
02:03:59.000 Okay.
02:04:00.000 But mentally, you do like.
02:04:02.000 Oh, yes.
02:04:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:04:04.000 I'm a big, yeah.
02:04:05.000 No, I love a mental challenge.
02:04:06.000 I love keeping this thing going.
02:04:08.000 It's just from there down, I'm not keeping my, you know, I'm, well, I'm conserving energy, like I said.
02:04:15.000 Yeah.
02:04:15.000 Just in case.
02:04:16.000 I understand.
02:04:17.000 I understand your perspective.
02:04:18.000 Because if something happens, you, you're, you would be surprised.
02:04:21.000 I'm telling you.
02:04:21.000 I feel like you don't believe me at all on this, but if something happened, I'd, I'd really be able to take off, you know, pretty quick.
02:04:28.000 What do you mean?
02:04:30.000 Like fast.
02:04:31.000 Run?
02:04:31.000 Yeah.
02:04:32.000 Yeah.
02:04:32.000 I think you're delusional.
02:04:33.000 Okay.
02:04:34.000 Well.
02:04:34.000 I don't think you'd be able to run.
02:04:36.000 If there was like you and me and an animal was chasing us, it's going to get you.
02:04:41.000 I'm coming in first.
02:04:42.000 You're coming in second.
02:04:43.000 That's interesting.
02:04:44.000 That's a hilarious perspective.
02:04:46.000 That's actually hilarious.
02:04:47.000 Well, it depends on the animal, I suppose.
02:04:49.000 It does not depend on the animal.
02:04:51.000 It could be a fucking chicken chasing us.
02:04:52.000 I'm going to get ahead of you by a large margin really quickly.
02:04:57.000 And there's no way you can catch me, it's not even physically possible.
02:05:00.000 What's the distance?
02:05:01.000 It doesn't matter.
02:05:02.000 It could be 100 yards, it could be 100 miles.
02:05:04.000 40 yard dash.
02:05:04.000 My 40 time was.
02:05:06.000 Surprisingly quick.
02:05:07.000 I think that was a long time ago, COVID.
02:05:09.000 Okay, it may have been a long time ago.
02:05:11.000 It was a long time ago.
02:05:12.000 I don't think there's a chance in hell that you could run faster than me.
02:05:15.000 Probably not.
02:05:16.000 No.
02:05:18.000 No, but we won't race, so I guess we'll never know the actual answer.
02:05:21.000 Yeah, but it's just a weird idea that you have in your head.
02:05:23.000 A guy who's so smart and who is so interested in facts and history has this one delusional idea that you can run.
02:05:30.000 Interested in facts and history, yes.
02:05:31.000 Smart, no.
02:05:33.000 I'm smart.
02:05:35.000 I can just remember things, but I'm a pretty delusional person.
02:05:38.000 I think life's way too short to not be delusional.
02:05:42.000 That's interesting.
02:05:43.000 So it's like a protective shield, being delusional?
02:05:46.000 I just think everything's going to work out always.
02:05:46.000 Yes.
02:05:49.000 Well, that's a way better perspective than everything is going to be doom.
02:05:54.000 Those people are exhausted.
02:05:55.000 No, so I do.
02:05:56.000 Okay, I actually probably shouldn't have said what I said.
02:05:59.000 I do think everything's going to go bad.
02:06:02.000 I'm sorry, hold on.
02:06:05.000 I think I did the wrong order.
02:06:08.000 So I think everything's going to be bad inside.
02:06:11.000 But on the outside, I try to convince myself that everything's okay.
02:06:15.000 And it does work.
02:06:17.000 But no, on the inside, I'm scared to death of everything.
02:06:20.000 But everything is going well for you.
02:06:22.000 Yes, sir.
02:06:22.000 Like you said, you got a lady in your life.
02:06:25.000 Your page is doing fantastic.
02:06:26.000 You've written two books.
02:06:28.000 Like things are going really well.
02:06:28.000 Oh, yeah.
02:06:30.000 No, no, it's not that.
02:06:31.000 I just think, like, you know, what if I have a heart attack right now?
02:06:34.000 Or, like, what if.
02:06:35.000 That is possible.
02:06:36.000 What if on the way home I die in a car wreck?
02:06:37.000 Like, I'm always thinking, I'm a very what if person, which is why I don't like thinking about the future.
02:06:43.000 Because when I think of the future, I'm not hopeful at all.
02:06:46.000 It's always like something bad is going to happen to me in the future.
02:06:49.000 But right now, nothing is.
02:06:51.000 So, whew.
02:06:52.000 If things start to happen bad, like if your health starts to fade, do you think you'll make conscious decisions to become healthier?
02:07:00.000 Oh, I would like to think so.
02:07:01.000 But I don't know.
02:07:04.000 I'm very much like a, as long as everything's coming back all right, I'm going to keep running this son of a bitch into the ground.
02:07:10.000 Right.
02:07:11.000 As long as everything's coming back all right.
02:07:12.000 Yeah, but if I get an A1C test that looks a little iffy, well, I think that would probably change if you had children.
02:07:20.000 That would be one of the things that would change.
02:07:20.000 Oh, yes.
02:07:22.000 You would want to be around for your children.
02:07:24.000 That does happen to a lot of people.
02:07:26.000 They have children, they say, Oh my God, I have to be here for this little tiny person that I love to death.
02:07:31.000 I have to change my diet.
02:07:32.000 I have to change my life.
02:07:34.000 No, there's no doubt about that.
02:07:34.000 Oh, yeah.
02:07:36.000 I would, yeah, I would change things up quite a bit.
02:07:38.000 I mean, I have changed some things.
02:07:39.000 Like, I quit drinking.
02:07:41.000 When did you do that?
02:07:42.000 Seven or eight years ago.
02:07:43.000 I don't know.
02:07:44.000 It was, yeah, probably about eight years ago.
02:07:46.000 Yeah, actually, I mean, partly because of like Subarctober stuff.
02:07:49.000 Really?
02:07:50.000 Yeah, well, that was like whenever I first tried it and was like, Oh, like, this is way better than drinking every day.
02:07:56.000 Yeah.
02:07:57.000 You certainly feel a lot better.
02:07:59.000 Yeah.
02:07:59.000 That's for sure.
02:08:00.000 And then, you know, the month ends, and then I go back to drinking, but I'm like not enjoying it that much.
02:08:05.000 And then by like February of, you know, after that November, I was just like, no, done.
02:08:11.000 No more.
02:08:11.000 I'm tired of this.
02:08:12.000 I'm tired of drinking every day.
02:08:13.000 I'm tired of drinking as much as I'm drinking and feeling horrible and just quit.
02:08:18.000 And good for you, man.
02:08:19.000 That's it.
02:08:20.000 So I have it in there.
02:08:22.000 I took eight months off, about eight months, and then I went out with my wife and had a, I think I had a margarita.
02:08:29.000 Margarita or a glass of wine, something like that.
02:08:31.000 And then I was like, oh, I think I'm back.
02:08:33.000 I like it.
02:08:33.000 Yeah.
02:08:34.000 See, that's my problem.
02:08:35.000 I can't have a little of something.
02:08:37.000 That's the big problem.
02:08:38.000 And that's why drinking was kind of easy.
02:08:39.000 Not that it was easy, but it was kind of easy because I can just not drink.
02:08:43.000 I'll live.
02:08:44.000 Like, I can just have zero alcohol, but I can't have zero food.
02:08:48.000 And that's where my problem is.
02:08:50.000 I overeat all the time because I just feel like I'm never going to get enough.
02:08:55.000 It's like famine mentality, but I didn't grow up poor or anything.
02:08:58.000 So, I mean, not rich, but.
02:09:01.000 Like, I don't know why I have this like mentality of like, oh, I got to have everything.
02:09:04.000 But that's how it was with alcohol, too.
02:09:06.000 It's like, I can't buy an 18 pack of beer because that's not going to be enough.
02:09:11.000 Like, no, no, no, no.
02:09:12.000 So I need to buy two 18s because, like, I know that'll be more than enough.
02:09:16.000 And I don't want to ever run the chance of not having enough.
02:09:21.000 And because there's so much, I'm more inclined to drink way more.
02:09:25.000 I eat a lot, believe it or not.
02:09:27.000 I'm a glutton.
02:09:28.000 I have a problem.
02:09:30.000 Like, I can't stop eating.
02:09:31.000 I just burn it off, luckily.
02:09:33.000 But I get to points where I don't.
02:09:35.000 I get to points where I start getting a belly and I start getting fat on the sides, and I look at myself in the mirror.
02:09:40.000 I'm like, oh, you look like shit, dude.
02:09:41.000 It's time to button down the hatches.
02:09:44.000 I get to points, I've had some points where I got pretty fat.
02:09:46.000 Like, right before I did the carnivore diet the first time, I got pretty heavy.
02:09:50.000 I got like, I think I was like 208 or 209, which for me is a lot.
02:09:55.000 What do you normally run at?
02:09:56.000 Right now I'm 200, which is good.
02:09:59.000 Is that like normal?
02:10:00.000 That's normal.
02:10:01.000 200 pounds is normal.
02:10:02.000 When I get above like 205, I start getting a little nervous.
02:10:05.000 That's what I'm getting.
02:10:06.000 You notice that much of a change?
02:10:07.000 Yeah.
02:10:08.000 Yeah, you notice a change.
02:10:08.000 Oh, boy.
02:10:09.000 Yeah.
02:10:10.000 I notice a change in how I feel.
02:10:11.000 I notice a change in, I feel like I'm carrying around extra weight.
02:10:14.000 And I also just feel like shit.
02:10:17.000 You know, it just doesn't feel as good.
02:10:19.000 But I'm a glutton, man.
02:10:21.000 I eat so.
02:10:22.000 When I sit down to eat, I just can't stop eating.
02:10:24.000 I eat so much.
02:10:26.000 I'll eat like two entrees.
02:10:31.000 Like, I'll have like two steaks.
02:10:33.000 I'll have a steak.
02:10:34.000 I'll have a big plate of pasta.
02:10:37.000 I'll eat a bunch of appetizers.
02:10:39.000 Like, if I go out to dinner with friends, I eat like a pig.
02:10:43.000 I eat so much, especially if it's Italian food.
02:10:43.000 Oh, I get sauce.
02:10:46.000 Oh, my God.
02:10:47.000 I'm a glutton.
02:10:48.000 I'll eat pizza and pasta.
02:10:50.000 And then I'm just like, My stomach is literally like stretched to the boundaries, like, oh, then I'll sit there like a bear that's been shot with a tranquilizer dart.
02:11:04.000 That's actually me, like, almost every day.
02:11:04.000 That's me.
02:11:07.000 I just have self control other times, and then I don't, you know, I do a lot of intermittent fasting.
02:11:14.000 Or, like, if I eat at 7 p.m. at night, I literally won't have any food at all until maybe one in the afternoon the next day.
02:11:24.000 And then I'll work out.
02:11:25.000 I'll do all this different stuff.
02:11:27.000 And then I'll eat something before I go and do a podcast.
02:11:29.000 Okay.
02:11:30.000 And I do that all the time.
02:11:32.000 So my body has these long stretches where it's allowed to digest all the food.
02:11:36.000 But in the past, like there's been moments in the past where I haven't done that.
02:11:39.000 I'll eat late night snacks.
02:11:40.000 I'll get up in the morning.
02:11:41.000 I have a big breakfast.
02:11:42.000 Then I have a big lunch.
02:11:43.000 And then it starts getting away from me.
02:11:45.000 Yeah.
02:11:46.000 So I've gotten a little bit better with it just, you know, over time.
02:11:49.000 But mine is just very wave, you know, up and down, up and down.
02:11:53.000 Right now, I'm on a.
02:11:55.000 An up, but an up in weight, not in goodness.
02:11:59.000 Like I'm really going.
02:11:59.000 Right.
02:11:59.000 Yeah.
02:12:00.000 Make corrections when you feel like you're going in a bad direction?
02:12:03.000 So then I'm like, let's add some salads into this thing.
02:12:03.000 Yeah.
02:12:06.000 And then I start doing that for a little.
02:12:07.000 And then there's the down.
02:12:08.000 That's where I, you know, lose a little bit of weight.
02:12:10.000 My weight goes down.
02:12:11.000 But then I'm like, eh, but this kind of sucks.
02:12:13.000 So then I go right back up.
02:12:15.000 So it really always sucks.
02:12:17.000 Like it's just always either like it sucks, but I'm feeling healthier or it sucks, but I'm feeling, I'm eating good.
02:12:24.000 Like it's just kind of.
02:12:24.000 Right.
02:12:25.000 Do you think you'd ever get to a point where you would hire a trainer?
02:12:29.000 God, that just feels real dumb.
02:12:32.000 Does it?
02:12:32.000 No.
02:12:33.000 I mean, a little bit, but I just can't be motivated by other people.
02:12:38.000 Well, you don't have to be motivated by other people, but the other people can take you through a routine where you don't have to think.
02:12:44.000 Oh, okay.
02:12:45.000 Okay.
02:12:45.000 So, not like a boot camp type thing.
02:12:46.000 No.
02:12:47.000 Not like Celebrity Fit Club.
02:12:48.000 No, no, no, no.
02:12:49.000 Okay.
02:12:49.000 Because I would not want to talk about that.
02:12:51.000 I mean, like, you know, you have a scheduled meeting where you meet a guy at like 10 a.m. someplace and you work out for an hour three times a week.
02:13:00.000 So, like a dietitian, like almost like what you do when you meet with a dietitian.
02:13:03.000 Sorry, but a trainer would be like someone who can say, okay, what are your goals?
02:13:09.000 What are you trying to accomplish?
02:13:10.000 Okay, I'm going to help you do that.
02:13:12.000 And there's people that are really good at that.
02:13:14.000 There's a lot of jerk off trainers that are just assholes that just got a job at the gym and most of the time they don't even know what they're doing.
02:13:14.000 Right.
02:13:20.000 There's a lot of people like that.
02:13:21.000 I've met them.
02:13:22.000 But then there's also people that are really good at their job and take it very seriously and really like helping people and getting people on the right track.
02:13:30.000 Okay.
02:13:30.000 And, and, Recognizing that there's this moment where people start to feel better and recognize, like, oh, this thing, like my friend Jelly Roll.
02:13:38.000 Jelly Roll is a great example.
02:13:39.000 Jelly Roll was 500 pounds.
02:13:41.000 Hell yeah.
02:13:42.000 He's lost 300 pounds.
02:13:45.000 I mean, that is insane.
02:13:47.000 And he was a big excess guy.
02:13:50.000 He was drinking and eating and, you know, just off the rails.
02:13:56.000 Now he's running every day.
02:13:58.000 And now he exercises.
02:13:59.000 And I was just with him in Utah.
02:14:01.000 We went on an elk hunt together.
02:14:03.000 This guy's hunting, he's going up mountains and shit.
02:14:06.000 He's like super healthy now.
02:14:07.000 It's crazy.
02:14:08.000 And I mean, he's like, I've never felt better in my life.
02:14:08.000 Yeah.
02:14:11.000 Like, I feel so fucking good.
02:14:13.000 It's like, I can't believe it took me so long to get on this path.
02:14:16.000 Wow.
02:14:17.000 See, I would do something like that, I think.
02:14:18.000 Like a trainer actually, you know, sitting down with you and like, with him, it just started with walking.
02:14:24.000 Well, that's the thing.
02:14:25.000 So I did buy a treadmill, which has now become a clothes rack, but I did buy a treadmill and I was like walking out.
02:14:32.000 I was like, oh, look at me.
02:14:34.000 I'm like you making a difference.
02:14:36.000 And then, you know, my heart started going a little fast and I was breathing a little heavy, but it was, you know, just because it had been like 30 minutes on the treadmill.
02:14:44.000 And then I got afraid that I couldn't catch my breath and I had a panic attack and I was like, oh, this isn't good.
02:14:49.000 And then every time I got on it, I immediately was like, oh, this isn't good.
02:14:52.000 My breath, I'm out of breath, which it was fine.
02:14:54.000 I mean, I was breathing fine.
02:14:55.000 It was just psychological.
02:14:56.000 It's all in my head.
02:14:57.000 I have massive, like, panic shit, which is all, you know, from all, you know, the anxiety.
02:15:02.000 Right.
02:15:03.000 Like, I'm sure if one thing got corrected, the other would correct.
02:15:06.000 100%.
02:15:07.000 I like you.
02:15:08.000 You're a really good guy.
02:15:09.000 I want you to be better.
02:15:10.000 I want you to be healthier.
02:15:12.000 That's why I'm pursuing this line of discussion.
02:15:14.000 Yeah.
02:15:15.000 It's an intervention.
02:15:16.000 No, not really.
02:15:17.000 But you know what?
02:15:18.000 One thing that would really help.
02:15:20.000 Huh.
02:15:20.000 Putting your treadmill in front of a television and watching a movie.
02:15:24.000 Yeah.
02:15:24.000 So that's what I was doing.
02:15:25.000 Well, that's a great way to do it.
02:15:27.000 Yeah.
02:15:27.000 I was watching like Lord of the Rings because I was like, I want to do the walk to Mordor thing.
02:15:31.000 You know, it's a little nerdy, but I love Lord of the Rings.
02:15:34.000 And I was like, and that's walking.
02:15:35.000 Like, I can walk too.
02:15:36.000 Yeah.
02:15:37.000 And so I was doing that.
02:15:38.000 But then I was like doing some incline because I was like, I'm really going to test myself here.
02:15:42.000 Probably shouldn't have done that.
02:15:43.000 Start slow.
02:15:44.000 Start like slow.
02:15:45.000 I didn't start as slow as I should have.
02:15:47.000 Yeah.
02:15:48.000 But you just, you just, this is one of the things that, We've done these comedian workouts.
02:15:54.000 I bring comics in and we have a gym next door.
02:15:56.000 Okay.
02:15:57.000 And the first thing I tell them before we do it, I go, You're not going to get exhausted.
02:16:02.000 You're not going to get exhausted and I'm not going to push you.
02:16:05.000 What we're going to do is we're just going to do a series of movements, very gradually build your body up to the point where you can start doing more.
02:16:05.000 Right.
02:16:13.000 And that's the way to do it.
02:16:13.000 Yeah.
02:16:15.000 The way to do it is not like kick your ass the first day where you wake up and you're like, Oh, fuck.
02:16:19.000 Yeah.
02:16:20.000 You're sore getting out of bed.
02:16:21.000 Fuck all that.
02:16:22.000 You need to build up.
02:16:23.000 Like, if you tried to do what I do for the first day, it would be terrible for you.
02:16:28.000 But you could do what I do eventually and be just like me, where it was like, I came here today.
02:16:33.000 I feel fine.
02:16:34.000 I feel great.
02:16:34.000 But that's the thing.
02:16:36.000 It's like you have to get your body to a resilience point.
02:16:39.000 You've got to build it up.
02:16:40.000 But I think you should build it up slowly.
02:16:42.000 Yes.
02:16:43.000 And one of the best ways to do it is to do cardio while you're watching a good movie because you just get captivated by the movie.
02:16:50.000 You know, you're on a fucking elliptical machine just watching a movie.
02:16:54.000 That's why I watched John Wick so many times.
02:16:55.000 It started during Sober October.
02:16:57.000 Right.
02:16:58.000 I was like, you know, I was just thinking about this fucking revenge movie.
02:17:03.000 It just keeps you going.
02:17:03.000 Yeah.
02:17:05.000 Or anything that captivates your attention span and takes your mind off of the fact that you're breathing a little heavy.
02:17:12.000 And you're not even breathing really heavy.
02:17:14.000 And even whenever I had the full, you know, a little freak out, I was fine.
02:17:14.000 Yeah.
02:17:18.000 And even after it was done, I was like, what the fuck were you freaking out about?
02:17:22.000 Yeah.
02:17:22.000 But then it just sticks in my head.
02:17:23.000 Like it always just, I don't know.
02:17:25.000 I have a disability.
02:17:25.000 Well, you have an interesting head.
02:17:27.000 You know, the way your mind works, the way you're interested in all these different things, that also could, like, turn against you.
02:17:35.000 Boy, does it.
02:17:35.000 Yeah.
02:17:36.000 Yeah.
02:17:36.000 It's why I've slept with the TV on since I was three years old.
02:17:39.000 I mean, really?
02:17:40.000 I can't.
02:17:40.000 Yeah.
02:17:40.000 To this day, sleep with the TV on?
02:17:41.000 Sleep with the TV on.
02:17:42.000 Has to.
02:17:43.000 Wow.
02:17:43.000 Yeah.
02:17:44.000 I can't be alone with my thoughts ever, ever.
02:17:48.000 It's too much.
02:17:49.000 That's interesting.
02:17:50.000 It's like, you never like meditate or anything like that?
02:17:50.000 Yeah.
02:17:53.000 I've tried and like, I can do it.
02:17:56.000 Like, I can, you know, not try to have zero thoughts, but just let the thought come, let the thought go, you know, all that kind of stuff.
02:18:02.000 But I don't feel any different afterwards.
02:18:04.000 And I've done it for like months at a time.
02:18:07.000 Man.
02:18:07.000 Yeah.
02:18:08.000 It just does nothing.
02:18:09.000 I just, no.
02:18:11.000 I just try to like suffocate it.
02:18:15.000 I just try to suffocate the voices, and they're, you know, not voices, but like the thoughts.
02:18:21.000 Yeah.
02:18:22.000 Just with distractions.
02:18:23.000 Well, I think that's one of the interesting things about people.
02:18:26.000 One of the things that I really love about doing this podcast is I get to talk to so many different kinds of people.
02:18:32.000 And, you know, there's a lot of narrow minded people that think that everybody should live one way, everybody should think one way and behave one way, and this is the right way.
02:18:40.000 I don't think that's real.
02:18:41.000 And I think there's a lot of different, very interesting, creative people.
02:18:45.000 People that their brains work different than everybody else's, and that's a great thing, you know.
02:18:51.000 And your burden is that you can't be alone with your thoughts, but that's also why you produce so much great content because you can't be alone with your thoughts, so you're always engaging with stuff.
02:19:02.000 I have to be distracted, so why not distract myself with you know?
02:19:06.000 But it's also you're distracting yourself with stuff that's, I mean, it's really because of all these facts and all this information that you've acquired and all the stuff that you've put out there in the world, you've like changed a lot of people's perspective on things.
02:19:19.000 You've given people a lot of stuff to think about, you know, and that's a great service.
02:19:26.000 It really is.
02:19:27.000 Yeah.
02:19:27.000 I guess I never really think about it.
02:19:28.000 It's the opposite of Real Housewives, what you're doing.
02:19:32.000 Well, I wouldn't go that far, but it provides a service for me.
02:19:36.000 But yeah, no, I guess I never really think about it like that, that people really get anything out of it.
02:19:43.000 Oh, dude, I get a lot out of your page.
02:19:44.000 That's why I'm always sending you interesting information.
02:19:47.000 I know.
02:19:48.000 Which is fun because some of it's stuff that I have heard, and I'm like, I did a video on that like a long, long time ago.
02:19:54.000 But a lot of it isn't.
02:19:55.000 It's like, holy, I never knew.
02:19:56.000 Which that's one of my favorite start to a sentence is, did you know?
02:20:02.000 Like when someone comes up to me and says, hey, did you know?
02:20:05.000 I'm immediately like, oh, come on, come on.
02:20:07.000 And there's times where like, oh, I already knew it.
02:20:10.000 But it's like, oh, well, that's cool.
02:20:11.000 That's cool.
02:20:12.000 You knew it.
02:20:12.000 But whenever they follow that up with like something I didn't know, oh, man, that's like one of my favorite feelings in the world.
02:20:20.000 Me too, is learning something that I didn't know.
02:20:23.000 Yeah.
02:20:23.000 Especially something really wild and cool.
02:20:25.000 Yes.
02:20:25.000 Yes.
02:20:26.000 Like, whoa.
02:20:27.000 Especially if it's about somebody that is, like, well known.
02:20:30.000 You're like, well, how do people not know that side of that person?
02:20:33.000 And some of it's not even cool.
02:20:34.000 Like the Henry Ford shit.
02:20:35.000 Like, I didn't know that.
02:20:36.000 Well, yeah, yeah.
02:20:37.000 Whoa.
02:20:37.000 Yeah, not cool, like, good.
02:20:39.000 No, I know what I mean.
02:20:40.000 But, yeah, but it's interesting to know that there's, you know, some of our most celebrated people are monsters.
02:20:47.000 We have, like, Gandhi, Mother Teresa.
02:20:49.000 Yeah.
02:20:49.000 You know, Henry Ford, Cesar Chavez.
02:20:53.000 We talked, you know.
02:20:54.000 I think most of those people were complete scumbags.
02:20:57.000 I mean, some of them did some good stuff.
02:20:58.000 I mean, I'd argue Mother Teresa never did anything good, but I mean, Gandhi, you know.
02:21:03.000 Was Mother Teresa that bad?
02:21:05.000 Real bad.
02:21:06.000 What was Mother Teresa's deal?
02:21:07.000 So, Mother Teresa had a, you know, she would like heal the sick and all that BS, but she basically just had a giant concrete storage room that she would put sick people in and donate and give all the money that was being donated to her to the Vatican, not use it to treat any of them.
02:21:23.000 Really?
02:21:24.000 Because she believed that, like, suffering brought you closer to God.
02:21:27.000 So she would just walk up and down the rows of sick, dying people, like, look how close to God I am.
02:21:34.000 She's a scum, a horrible person.
02:21:37.000 Really?
02:21:37.000 So she could have helped them with medication?
02:21:40.000 I think they were giving them very basic things, but they're sleeping on concrete floors.
02:21:47.000 Meanwhile, she's getting millions donated.
02:21:49.000 Princess Diana is giving all this money to Mother Teresa.
02:21:52.000 She's just this frail old nun, so none the wiser.
02:21:57.000 But yeah, she's just funneling it right up to the Vatican.
02:22:00.000 And was she portraying her role very differently than the reality of it?
02:22:04.000 Yeah, it's the reason why she became Mother Teresa to everybody, is this sort of patron saint of.
02:22:10.000 Which I don't know what she is the saint of, if anything, but like to most people, in most people's eyes, like that's a good person.
02:22:18.000 Like, oh, you're just like, you know, Mother Teresa is synonymous like how Einstein is with being smart.
02:22:22.000 Mother Teresa is with like caring and kindness and virtue.
02:22:26.000 And she was just sending all the money to the Vatican.
02:22:28.000 Yeah, the vast majority of the Vatican and just having a, you know, basically a torture chamber.
02:22:33.000 You know, people were just suffering constantly.
02:22:35.000 So you think you're going to go to Mother Teresa and she's going to take care of you, and you just get locked in a basement.
02:22:41.000 Yeah.
02:22:41.000 Yeah, you get locked in this giant concrete room with, like, basically no windows, no sunlight getting in, and people just having, like, whatever dysentery or, yeah, whatever disease they have.
02:22:52.000 Yeah, diarrhea all over your bed sheets and just slowly slip away.
02:22:55.000 Yeah.
02:22:55.000 Yeah.
02:22:56.000 I mean, not good.
02:23:00.000 It's like a frat house.
02:23:01.000 The whole Vatican thing is so strange.
02:23:03.000 That's one of the places that when I went to, I was a little weirded out.
02:23:07.000 I was like, yeah, you guys have so much money.
02:23:11.000 A lot of money.
02:23:13.000 There's billions of dollars in artwork there.
02:23:17.000 You walk around, you're like, this is kind of crazy.
02:23:19.000 They have masterpieces just kind of stacked all over the place.
02:23:23.000 It's almost like they're hoarders for doing art.
02:23:25.000 Which, I mean, art is an embezzlement scheme, anyways, but most of it is.
02:23:25.000 Yes.
02:23:32.000 Do you think?
02:23:33.000 Because there's no.
02:23:33.000 Yeah.
02:23:34.000 Because there's no.
02:23:35.000 Hunter Biden was getting paid all that money because his art was amazing.
02:23:38.000 What are you trying to say?
02:23:39.000 Well, I mean, who am I to judge the talent level of an artist?
02:23:43.000 It is an interesting way to launder money.
02:23:46.000 Right.
02:23:46.000 And they do it.
02:23:47.000 I mean, like, there's no.
02:23:48.000 Like, what's to make a painting, you know, like 70 million, and then one from an artist you've never heard of sells for like 35 million?
02:23:54.000 You're like, especially modern art, which is like very easy to make.
02:23:59.000 I don't give a fuck what anybody says.
02:24:00.000 There's one that's sold.
02:24:02.000 There's one that's sold for, God, I want to say it was like tens of millions of dollars.
02:24:09.000 It might have been like 60 million dollars.
02:24:10.000 But it's basically like a red stripe of paint, a black stripe of paint, and a red stripe of paint.
02:24:17.000 And it's famous.
02:24:18.000 And so there was this.
02:24:20.000 Christie's or Sotheby's, one of those auctions, one of those.
02:24:23.000 And this thing got auctioned off for this fucking preposterous amount of money.
02:24:29.000 And you're like, what is happening here?
02:24:31.000 Like, is this a scheme?
02:24:33.000 Is this like, how is this?
02:24:35.000 It's got to be.
02:24:36.000 How is this?
02:24:37.000 How does this represent such an insane amount of generational wealth for just this stupid painting that you could make in a couple of hours?
02:24:45.000 Not even in a couple of hours, an hour.
02:24:47.000 Well, you just don't get it.
02:24:49.000 I know.
02:24:50.000 I'm stupid.
02:24:51.000 I'm uncultured.
02:24:53.000 It's amazing to me.
02:24:55.000 See if you can find that painting.
02:24:56.000 It's really crazy.
02:24:58.000 When you see it, it's really crazy.
02:24:59.000 You're pissing at me.
02:25:02.000 That's it.
02:25:03.000 That's it.
02:25:03.000 How much is that one, Jeremy?
02:25:05.000 I'm afraid to tell you, I think.
02:25:05.000 Wow.
02:25:07.000 That's amazing, though.
02:25:08.000 I don't know if this one was.
02:25:09.000 This is actually on the top of the article.
02:25:11.000 That's the one I'm talking about.
02:25:14.000 Oh, my God.
02:25:15.000 110 million?
02:25:15.000 Does that say 105 million?
02:25:16.000 No, no, no.
02:25:18.000 Let's go into the list.
02:25:19.000 Let me find that picture in the list.
02:25:21.000 Oh, there was that Jackson Paul.
02:25:22.000 That's it right there.
02:25:23.000 186 million.
02:25:23.000 So, like, Mark Rothko is like a pretty well known artist.
02:25:28.000 Look at that.
02:25:28.000 But that is $186 million.
02:25:30.000 Which is crazy because I think, like, a lot of the Rothko paintings are like that.
02:25:35.000 Like that.
02:25:37.000 And yeah, he's like, oh, yeah, I think those are the Jackson.
02:25:40.000 Are those Pollock's?
02:25:41.000 300 million.
02:25:42.000 Look at this one.
02:25:43.000 Yeah.
02:25:44.000 Isn't that?
02:25:45.000 300 million.
02:25:46.000 Do you know about the whole CIA connection with modern art?
02:25:50.000 Do you know that?
02:25:51.000 With modern art?
02:25:52.000 Oh, there's the CIA.
02:25:54.000 Do you know the Psyop?
02:25:55.000 With modern art?
02:25:56.000 Yeah.
02:25:57.000 No.
02:25:58.000 No, I'm so happy to tell you this.
02:26:00.000 Oh, my God.
02:26:01.000 Okay.
02:26:01.000 So the CIA, during the time of Jackson Pollock.
02:26:06.000 Okay.
02:26:06.000 Okay.
02:26:07.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:26:07.000 Which is why we were in the middle of the Cold War.
02:26:10.000 The CIA started this thing for modern art to pump up American art because we didn't have any art that compared with the classics from Russia.
02:26:22.000 Right, right.
02:26:23.000 So, yes, there's a documented basis to CIA modern art PSYOP.
02:26:28.000 This is from Perplexity, our AI sponsor.
02:26:31.000 The CIA secretly supported the international promotion of American abstract expressionism during the Cold War.
02:26:38.000 So, what actually happened?
02:26:39.000 In the 1950s, the CIA funded the Congress for Cultural Freedom, a Paris based organization that sponsored magazines, concerts, conferences, and exhibitions.
02:26:49.000 It presented itself as an independent cultural organization while covertly advancing an anti Soviet agenda.
02:26:57.000 So, American abstract expressionism, the work of Jackson Pollock, Rothkau, Willem de Kooning, those guys that we just saw, fit the agenda.
02:27:08.000 It's individuality and expressionism.
02:27:10.000 Experimentation could be presented as evidence of American intellectual freedom in contrast to the ideological constraints associated with Soviet socialist realism.
02:27:20.000 The paintings didn't need to contain an explicit political message.
02:27:23.000 Their freedom of form was the message.
02:27:26.000 So, how the PSYOP worked?
02:27:27.000 Indirect funding, money moved through cultural organizations and intermediaries rather than appearing as overt CIA sponsorship.
02:27:36.000 This is described as a long leash approach.
02:27:40.000 International exposure, exhibitions held, established American paintings, prestige abroad.
02:27:46.000 Historians have identified CIA backing behind the new American painting, which toured Europe in 1958 to 1959.
02:27:53.000 So, all that art that you look at and go, this is fucking bullshit.
02:27:57.000 How did this become so famous and so valuable?
02:28:00.000 Fucking CIA.
02:28:00.000 Right.
02:28:02.000 That's so weird.
02:28:03.000 I mean, it does make perfect sense.
02:28:05.000 The same people who brought us MKUltra.
02:28:07.000 No.
02:28:08.000 Like, they engineered so many very weird and twisted aspects of our society.
02:28:13.000 Yeah, but there's all the connections, or what people think of connections, you know, with like the music scene in the 60s.
02:28:19.000 Oh, yeah.
02:28:20.000 Because, like, so many people were like, Strange times in Laurel County.
02:28:22.000 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:28:24.000 Yeah, like Morrison's dad, Jim Morrison's dad being, you know, the Navy Admiral.
02:28:27.000 He's an intelligence agent.
02:28:29.000 He was the Navy Admiral during the Gulf of Tonkin.
02:28:31.000 Yeah.
02:28:31.000 He was, like, responsible for the Gulf of Tonkin.
02:28:33.000 Yeah.
02:28:34.000 And Jim Morrison used to always, like, in interviews when they asked about his parents, he would just say they died in a car wreck.
02:28:40.000 Yeah, that was always his response.
02:28:41.000 They died in a car wreck.
02:28:43.000 They hit a group of Indians.
02:28:45.000 That's what he said.
02:28:46.000 Hmm?
02:28:48.000 Is his dad still alive?
02:28:49.000 Yeah, his parents are alive.
02:28:50.000 Yeah, alive and well.
02:28:51.000 They were in one documentary about the Doors I Watch.
02:28:54.000 They finally interviewed his dad and asked him what he thought about Jim Morrison.
02:28:58.000 It was kind of weird, but it was back in the 80s or so.
02:29:03.000 Yeah, the thing is, they were good.
02:29:05.000 They were really good.
02:29:08.000 The question is can you really engineer that kind of creativity and talent?
02:29:14.000 Well, that's where I get kind of skeptical about that side of it.
02:29:19.000 Or.
02:29:20.000 Were there a lot of military kids in that area because it's where there's a lot of military base in that area?
02:29:26.000 And are there just naturally going to be a lot of kids?
02:29:29.000 And kids tend to rebel against their parents.
02:29:30.000 Well, if my parents are involved with the military, screw the military.
02:29:34.000 I'm going to get involved with the group that doesn't like the military.
02:29:39.000 Yes.
02:29:39.000 And 90% of them go on to be teachers, lawyers, doctors, whatever the hell.
02:29:44.000 And then there's like 10% who just happen to be good musicians.
02:29:47.000 How much of that is the CIA just plucking kids of whatever?
02:29:53.000 Well, people tend to definitely create a picture that doesn't exist.
02:29:58.000 They tend to draw lines and connect dots.
02:30:02.000 And we look for patterns that perhaps don't exist.
02:30:05.000 But it's because so many patterns do exist.
02:30:08.000 Well, and your brain's wired to look for patterns.
02:30:10.000 It's why you can convince somebody of fake memories.
02:30:13.000 It's why, like, you know, I mean, people will give whole explanations for an event that never occurred.
02:30:19.000 But it's because they know the beginning and end, so they have to be able to connect that.
02:30:24.000 Right.
02:30:25.000 Like, because you have to have the pattern.
02:30:26.000 So, I mean, your optical illusions, like when you see an optical illusion, the reason why it's an illusion is because your brain is trying in there somewhere to establish a pattern.
02:30:37.000 What was that one that we looked at the other day, Jamie, where they look like?
02:30:41.000 Two different colors until you put your fingers over the line in between them and then they all of a sudden become one color.
02:30:49.000 It is so weird.
02:30:51.000 Yeah, there's some interesting ones with that, or like where you'll have like a Coca Cola can that looks red in the picture, but it's actually all black and white.
02:30:58.000 It's just because there's these tiny green lines.
02:31:01.000 Oh, yeah.
02:31:02.000 Okay.
02:31:02.000 I remember seeing this one.
02:31:03.000 That's crazy.
02:31:03.000 Yeah.
02:31:04.000 Yeah.
02:31:05.000 Like that thing right there, make that large, please.
02:31:08.000 That thing is, they're both the same color.
02:31:12.000 Yeah.
02:31:12.000 And you don't realize it until you take your fingers and cover the line.
02:31:16.000 And then you go, what in the fuck is that?
02:31:19.000 How is that possible?
02:31:20.000 It's because of a, what did they call it?
02:31:22.000 Because of a, Jesus.
02:31:24.000 What is it called again, Jamie?
02:31:25.000 Corn sweet.
02:31:25.000 What's that?
02:31:26.000 It's called the corn sweet illusion.
02:31:28.000 That's nuts.
02:31:28.000 Yeah.
02:31:30.000 That one's nuts.
02:31:31.000 Because you would swear to God that the lower one is a lighter color than the upper one until you block out that line in the center.
02:31:39.000 And you're just like, holy shit.
02:31:40.000 Oh, there's so many of those too.
02:31:42.000 Like, there's so many, they're just so, they're fascinating to me.
02:31:45.000 Of, like, how your brain can trick itself.
02:31:48.000 Yeah.
02:31:48.000 Yeah, it's just the whiteness of the top of the bottom one that makes it seem like it's a different color below it.
02:31:55.000 But that's because in patterns, that's how it would be.
02:31:58.000 Like, in anywhere else in nature, if something had that white of a top, then surely it must be a lighter color.
02:32:02.000 And the thing that's darker, like that dark, would normally be darker.
02:32:06.000 It's just weird that your brain fucks with you that much.
02:32:09.000 Yeah, it's trying its damn just to, you know, get you where it needs to be.
02:32:13.000 But it'll definitely.
02:32:14.000 And I think that applies to, like, Connecting these dots.
02:32:17.000 Like Jim Morrison's dad was in it.
02:32:17.000 Oh, yeah.
02:32:19.000 That's the CIA engineer of the hippie movement.
02:32:22.000 Right.
02:32:22.000 Which I think there's some evidence that they probably were involved in that as well.
02:32:26.000 There's definitely some evidence that they were involved in promoting hip hop.
02:32:29.000 Oh, yeah.
02:32:30.000 Well, with the hippie movement, too, there is evidence that they were, you know, helping to stage protests and, like, you know, organize protests.
02:32:39.000 But even, like, was it Gloria Steinem was working with the CIA at one point to stage, you know, like these things.
02:32:47.000 So, like, there's always been that version of it.
02:32:50.000 But then it's just whether or not all of it is because of that.
02:32:54.000 No.
02:32:55.000 I don't think you can engineer Hendrix.
02:32:58.000 No.
02:32:59.000 Because I've heard that.
02:32:59.000 Right?
02:33:00.000 Hendrix wasn't even an anti war person.
02:33:02.000 Hendrix didn't give a damn.
02:33:03.000 He was in the war.
02:33:04.000 He was in Vietnam.
02:33:05.000 Well, he had songs that were anti war.
02:33:08.000 It was not necessarily as like.
02:33:10.000 It was not necessarily as like.
02:33:11.000 Well, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:33:11.000 But I mean, as far as like outwardly so not necessarily the music, but like outwardly speaking against the war, he was not necessarily one of the like, you know.
02:33:20.000 He spoke out against it on stage.
02:33:22.000 Against the war?
02:33:22.000 Yeah.
02:33:23.000 I don't remember ever seeing him actually speak out fully against the war.
02:33:28.000 I thought he was.
02:33:29.000 He's speaking out against the war and against violence on stage in the live version of Machine Gun.
02:33:29.000 I thought he was.
02:33:36.000 Oh, maybe so.
02:33:37.000 Yeah.
02:33:38.000 Well, no, I think.
02:33:39.000 No, it was more like in his day to day life.
02:33:41.000 Like he used to get really angry with people who would like criticize the war if they like said certain.
02:33:45.000 Or like were critical, not the war, but of like soldiers.
02:33:48.000 I think he used to get like really upset about that.
02:33:51.000 Aaron Ross Powell, Jr.
02:33:52.000 Yes, Jimi Hendrix expressed anti war views through his music, especially Machine Gun, but his politics were more complicated than a simple lifelong pacifist label.
02:33:59.000 Counts of his early career describe him as supporting U.S. involvement in Vietnam before his later music became closely associated with opposition to war.
02:34:08.000 Well, he was a young man.
02:34:09.000 I mean, he died and he's only 27.
02:34:11.000 Yeah.
02:34:12.000 A Machine Gun is the clearest example.
02:34:14.000 Released on Band of Gypsies in 1970, it portrays the brutality of war through lyrics and guitar sounds resembling gunfire.
02:34:21.000 Fucking great song.
02:34:23.000 Explosions and cries.
02:34:24.000 Hendricks dedicated it to people fighting in Vietnam and Berkeley and within themselves, connecting the battlefield violence with conflict at home.
02:34:32.000 Fuck, that guy was good.
02:34:33.000 Yeah.
02:34:34.000 But even that's not necessarily anti war.
02:34:37.000 Like, you know, depicting war isn't necessarily being anti.
02:34:40.000 I mean, now going on stage and saying like, you know, anti war things, but I think he was more like, I know he got in a fight with, was it like Pete Townsend or Mick Jagger with somebody because they were criticizing like the troops who were in Vietnam.
02:34:54.000 And he was like, hey, hey, hey, like, hold on.
02:34:56.000 Like, I just, you know, I was a troop in Vietnam.
02:34:58.000 Like, well, they're not the problem.
02:35:00.000 It's the, like, yeah, being against like the government's war, I'm sure.
02:35:04.000 But, yeah.
02:35:05.000 But like, Jim Morrison wasn't.
02:35:07.000 Like anti war, like he just liked to pull his dick out, just like pulling his dick.
02:35:10.000 Chuck Laurie was here the other day, yeah.
02:35:12.000 And he told us that he went to see Jim Morrison in concert.
02:35:14.000 He didn't even get through the first song, he tried to pull his dick off, and they came on the stage with horseback to remove him.
02:35:20.000 I mean, he was just such an animal.
02:35:25.000 It might not be the same fight you said, but this is an interesting fight between Jimi Hendrix and Pete Townsend.
02:35:31.000 Backstage argument, not a documented fist fight.
02:35:33.000 Jimi Hendrix and Pete Townsend clashed at the Monterey Pop Festival, June 18, 1967, over who would perform first.
02:35:39.000 Neither wanted to follow the other's explosive stage act.
02:35:42.000 Read the quote.
02:35:43.000 It was just Jimmy on a chair playing at me, playing at me like, don't fuck with me, you little shit.
02:35:51.000 Just standing on a chair playing guitar at him.
02:35:54.000 That's what Townsend said Jimmy did.
02:35:56.000 Just attacking him by his play.
02:35:57.000 Not only that, imagine him playing in front of you going, I'm not following that.
02:36:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:36:03.000 That's when he set his guitar on fire.
02:36:05.000 Yeah, it was Townsend's.
02:36:07.000 Oh, so it wasn't Townsend's guitar?
02:36:10.000 I've always heard that it was Townsend's guitar that he was playing.
02:36:14.000 I mean, it could have been.
02:36:15.000 They might have just left that fact out of this.
02:36:16.000 Oh, so they wanted to play first.
02:36:18.000 So the Who wanted to play first.
02:36:20.000 Yeah, because they didn't want to follow Hendrix.
02:36:22.000 Yeah.
02:36:23.000 Townsend smashed his guitar during their set, and Hendrix later famously set his own guitar on fire.
02:36:23.000 Injured.
02:36:29.000 Yeah.
02:36:30.000 Wow.
02:36:30.000 Interesting.
02:36:32.000 Yeah, there's some interesting stories like that, too, like with Jerry Lee Lewis, you know, with Chuck Berry lighting his piano on fire and then just following that motherfucker.
02:36:41.000 Yeah.
02:36:42.000 Amazing.
02:36:43.000 I mean, he almost killed a couple people.
02:36:46.000 May or may not have killed a couple of his wives.
02:36:47.000 May or may not have.
02:36:49.000 Seems like he probably might have.
02:36:51.000 Did he try to kill Elvis?
02:36:51.000 Tried to kill Elvis.
02:36:53.000 Yeah, he showed up drunk as hell at Graceland and tried ramming his car through the gates and stepped out, waving a gun in the air, saying, I'm here to, like, let's see who's the real king now and was trying to kill him.
02:37:08.000 And Elvis, meanwhile, is inside watching him through the security camera, you know, going, Oh, you got to get down here, you know.
02:37:13.000 And cops show up and Jerry Lee Lewis gets back in his car with the window still up.
02:37:18.000 Don't realize the windows are up, grabs a liquor bottle and throws it at the cops and just shatters in his car.
02:37:23.000 Yeah, that guy was a loose fucking cannon.
02:37:27.000 Yeah, I'd say.
02:37:29.000 Yeah.
02:37:30.000 I mean, well, Jimmy Swaggert's cousin, you're going to be a.
02:37:33.000 That's right.
02:37:34.000 Yeah.
02:37:35.000 Did you make a video about that?
02:37:36.000 I don't think I made one about them being cousins, but I made one about him, you know, being a lunatic.
02:37:41.000 Yeah, he was a legit lunatic.
02:37:42.000 Yeah, absolute, like, psychopath.
02:37:45.000 Jimmy Swaggert's a lunatic.
02:37:46.000 And their other cousin was, like, Mickey Gilly, I think.
02:37:49.000 He was also a very famous country singer.
02:37:51.000 But, um, yeah.
02:37:52.000 Jimmy Swaggert and Jerry Lee Lewis.
02:37:53.000 Well, it's interesting, like, the preacher connection to entertainment.
02:37:57.000 Well, it's the same.
02:37:58.000 It's one in the same.
02:37:59.000 Yes.
02:37:59.000 Especially that type of preacher, like, a televangelist is.
02:38:02.000 Oh, yeah, there they are.
02:38:03.000 Jimmy Swaggert and Jerry Lee Lewis.
02:38:06.000 They both look like psychos.
02:38:06.000 Look at them.
02:38:08.000 Let me see that.
02:38:09.000 Close in on that picture again.
02:38:11.000 They both look like complete psychos.
02:38:13.000 If I was alone in a room with these guys and they were drinking, especially Swaggert, I'd be like, I got to get the fuck out of here.
02:38:19.000 Look at his eyes.
02:38:20.000 He looks dangerous.
02:38:23.000 He looks like a fighter.
02:38:24.000 He looks dangerous.
02:38:25.000 I have sinned.
02:38:26.000 I have sinned.
02:38:26.000 Remember that?
02:38:30.000 He got busted with hookers.
02:38:32.000 Didn't he get busted a second time?
02:38:35.000 I've sinned.
02:38:35.000 No.
02:38:38.000 It was amazing.
02:38:39.000 Didn't he get busted a second time after that?
02:38:41.000 I wanted to say he did, but maybe not.
02:38:43.000 You know, Kennison was a preacher, too.
02:38:44.000 Yeah.
02:38:45.000 Which that's a perfect crossover, too.
02:38:47.000 Perfect.
02:38:47.000 Just that stage presence.
02:38:49.000 I mean, obviously, that's a different kind of stage presence.
02:38:51.000 I'm sure you've been to church.
02:38:52.000 Churches, yeah.
02:38:53.000 If someone's a good preacher, they're entertaining.
02:38:55.000 Yes.
02:38:56.000 That's part of it.
02:38:57.000 Part of it is charisma.
02:38:58.000 Yeah, when I was a kid, we went to this non denominational church, and our preacher was like, yeah, very captivating.
02:39:03.000 Everybody loved him.
02:39:04.000 He was very friendly.
02:39:05.000 I mean, there was no dark side to him, as far as I know, but.
02:39:05.000 And he was a good guy.
02:39:09.000 But there's definitely ones that have a big old dark side.
02:39:10.000 He was caught in a second prostitution scandal in California in 1991.
02:39:14.000 Oh, my goodness.
02:39:15.000 I mean, you lost your mind.
02:39:16.000 What was the first one?
02:39:17.000 What was the first one?
02:39:19.000 88 and then 91.
02:39:20.000 Three years later, they had their eye on him.
02:39:22.000 I've sinned against you, my Lord.
02:39:28.000 Well, speaking of what's his name?
02:39:29.000 Fun times.
02:39:30.000 What's his name?
02:39:30.000 Just died.
02:39:31.000 Old Jim Baker.
02:39:32.000 Did he?
02:39:32.000 Yeah.
02:39:33.000 Oh, that's right.
02:39:33.000 Like a couple days ago.
02:39:35.000 Oh, that's right.
02:39:35.000 Timmy Faye died like a little while back.
02:39:37.000 But poor Jim.
02:39:38.000 Rest in peace, I suppose.
02:39:40.000 Yeah.
02:39:41.000 Yeah.
02:39:42.000 And who was the gal?
02:39:43.000 Tammy Faye.
02:39:44.000 No, the other gal that he had the affair with.
02:39:46.000 Oh, oh, um.
02:39:49.000 Oh, boy.
02:39:50.000 I always get the Clinton scandal mixed up, like names wise.
02:39:54.000 Jessica Hahn.
02:39:55.000 Jessica Hahn.
02:39:56.000 And Jessica Hahn went on to become Sam Kinnison's girlfriend.
02:39:56.000 That's it.
02:40:00.000 Oh, really?
02:40:02.000 Yeah.
02:40:03.000 I didn't know that.
02:40:04.000 That's amazing.
02:40:09.000 God, that's a good.
02:40:10.000 Yeah.
02:40:11.000 I did not know that.
02:40:11.000 Wow.
02:40:13.000 Yeah, that's the connection.
02:40:13.000 Yeah.
02:40:13.000 Yeah.
02:40:14.000 Yeah, you should put a video in there.
02:40:16.000 100%.
02:40:17.000 Yeah, I never knew that one.
02:40:19.000 Yeah, Jessica Hahn had a fling with Sam Kennison.
02:40:22.000 God.
02:40:23.000 Yeah, man.
02:40:23.000 There she is.
02:40:25.000 She was hot back in the Dizze.
02:40:26.000 See if there's a photo of Jessica Hahn with Sam Kennison.
02:40:28.000 Look at her.
02:40:29.000 Dirty.
02:40:30.000 Dirty, hot.
02:40:30.000 My God.
02:40:31.000 Lots of makeup.
02:40:32.000 That's how I like them.
02:40:33.000 Yeah.
02:40:33.000 Whoa.
02:40:34.000 That's.
02:40:35.000 Yeah.
02:40:35.000 Oh, that's her in there.
02:40:37.000 Sam Kennison and Jessica Hahn.
02:40:38.000 Oh, is that the Wild Thing video?
02:40:39.000 Remember when they did Wild Thing?
02:40:41.000 Yeah, Wild Thing.
02:40:43.000 That's her.
02:40:43.000 I'm pretty sure that's her.
02:40:44.000 Yeah.
02:40:45.000 Go back to that last picture.
02:40:45.000 That's her.
02:40:47.000 She's hot as fuck.
02:40:49.000 Fuck her hot.
02:40:50.000 Woo!
02:40:50.000 Jim Baker, let's go.
02:40:53.000 Yeah, so Jim Baker, I mean, killing it.
02:40:57.000 I mean, who?
02:40:58.000 How could you fucking be mad at him?
02:41:00.000 I mean, who wouldn't be tempted by that?
02:41:02.000 That's what I'm saying.
02:41:04.000 I have sinned.
02:41:05.000 Oh, my God.
02:41:07.000 I've sinned, my Lord.
02:41:09.000 I mean, it could be worse.
02:41:10.000 It could be the Hugh Grant situation, you know, with Divine's Rough one.
02:41:13.000 Like, he, you know, Jim Baker went the opposite way.
02:41:16.000 Yeah, he was driving around getting street hookers.
02:41:18.000 But that's what you want.
02:41:18.000 Yeah.
02:41:19.000 You want somebody to cheat somebody with a hot.
02:41:22.000 Because then it's like, God damn.
02:41:24.000 Yeah, hot.
02:41:24.000 Big eyes.
02:41:25.000 Ephenson.
02:41:27.000 Boy, what a good actor.
02:41:30.000 They all kind of are.
02:41:31.000 For me, he will be that photo with him and Jerry Lewis forever.
02:41:34.000 Yeah.
02:41:35.000 You look in that young man's eyes.
02:41:35.000 Young man.
02:41:37.000 Yeah.
02:41:37.000 Do you ever watch Great Balls of Fire?
02:41:37.000 The darkness.
02:41:39.000 Yeah.
02:41:39.000 Dennis Quaid.
02:41:40.000 It's Alec Baldwin, isn't it?
02:41:41.000 It plays Jimmy Swagger.
02:41:43.000 Oh, that's right.
02:41:45.000 Yeah, and Dennis Quaid is a.
02:41:46.000 Dennis Quaid was awesome.
02:41:48.000 It was Jerry Lewis.
02:41:49.000 Jerry Lewis.
02:41:50.000 Oh, I'm big, Dennis Quaid.
02:41:51.000 Oh, he's great.
02:41:51.000 You ever seen Breaking Away?
02:41:53.000 Yeah, look at that.
02:41:53.000 That's another one.
02:41:54.000 Yeah, there they are.
02:41:56.000 Wow.
02:41:56.000 It's actually like perfect casting.
02:41:58.000 Yeah.
02:41:59.000 Like Alec Baldwin is a good, a pretty convincing Jimmy Swagger.
02:42:05.000 I haven't seen that movie in a long time.
02:42:06.000 Oh, yeah, me either.
02:42:07.000 There's Winona Ryder, too, I think, isn't it?
02:42:09.000 That played the cousin that he married.
02:42:12.000 She's an online one, went crazy, started stealing things.
02:42:12.000 Yeah.
02:42:15.000 That was odd.
02:42:16.000 I think people just, like, the pressure of that kind of fame and that life just, for a lot of people, is just too much.
02:42:23.000 They just go crazy.
02:42:24.000 Oh, they're all nuts.
02:42:25.000 I mean, James Brown was a lunatic.
02:42:27.000 Oh, James Brown was amazing.
02:42:28.000 He tried to kill Joe Tex at a restaurant.
02:42:31.000 Well, I mean, at a club, I mean, he got in a shootout with the cops and a high speed chase because someone was using his bathroom, someone was taking a shit in his personal bathroom, which is actually understandable.
02:42:43.000 Yeah, it was like across four states, wasn't it?
02:42:45.000 Or something like that.
02:42:47.000 Oh, that's one of his tires out.
02:42:48.000 Oh, that's one of my favorite videos ever is that news CNN interview.
02:42:53.000 Oh, my god, it's like we don't need to ask him.
02:42:56.000 You're out on the source, where he just keeps like reciting his song lyrics.
02:43:02.000 He's like, I feel good, exactly.
02:43:04.000 Shooting erupts over James Brown's height.
02:43:06.000 His height.
02:43:07.000 Him and his friend.
02:43:08.000 Nobody just.
02:43:11.000 Police in Atmore say a man shot his friend when the two of them argued over James Brown's height.
02:43:17.000 Oh, was it James Brown?
02:43:18.000 I thought it was two.
02:43:19.000 I just saw that.
02:43:19.000 Some other people.
02:43:20.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
02:43:21.000 The guy died.
02:43:22.000 He got shot and killed.
02:43:23.000 He was 73 years old.
02:43:25.000 He got killed over an argument.
02:43:27.000 It was unclear exactly how tall he was.
02:43:29.000 James Brown, yeah, when he died.
02:43:31.000 I don't know.
02:43:32.000 All right, Cody.
02:43:33.000 Listen, man.
02:43:34.000 Thank you very much for being here.
02:43:35.000 Oh, absolutely.
02:43:36.000 Always fun to talk to you.
02:43:37.000 Dude, thanks for having me again.
02:43:38.000 My pleasure.
02:43:39.000 Like I said, I love your page.
02:43:39.000 Yeah.
02:43:41.000 Your book is Where'd That Come From? The Hidden History of Everyday Words and Phrases.
02:43:46.000 Cody Tucker.
02:43:47.000 Is there an audio version of this?
02:43:48.000 No, not yet, but I am working on one.
02:43:50.000 I got the person who did the graphics, which I'm going to give her a shout out.
02:43:54.000 Carly, amazing job with making it look like an old school book.
02:43:58.000 It does.
02:43:59.000 Yeah, her husband's a comic, K.P. Burke, a great dude.
02:44:02.000 He does a lot of this kind of stuff, like the long form history stuff.
02:44:05.000 Oh, so he's going to read it?
02:44:06.000 No, no, no, no.
02:44:07.000 But I'm just saying, like, that's, hey, he just does that.
02:44:10.000 He's a very interesting guy.
02:44:11.000 You should check out at some point.
02:44:12.000 He does, like, really cool history, like, long form videos.
02:44:14.000 But no, I'm weird.
02:44:15.000 What is his, does he have a channel?
02:44:17.000 What is it called?
02:44:17.000 I don't know the channel.
02:44:18.000 What's his name?
02:44:19.000 He does stuff with, like, the SDR, you know, like Ralph Sutton and, like, Jason Ellis and, like, all those guys.
02:44:19.000 KP Burke.
02:44:26.000 Oh, okay.
02:44:27.000 Yeah, good dude.
02:44:28.000 But his wife set everything up and she's going to do, like, the audio book and everything.
02:44:32.000 Oh, dope.
02:44:33.000 But are you going to read it?
02:44:34.000 No, I'm going to read it.
02:44:35.000 Okay, good.
02:44:36.000 Beautiful.
02:44:36.000 You got to read it.
02:44:37.000 Yeah, that's it.
02:44:38.000 Yeah, that would be very disappointing if you.
02:44:40.000 No, I'm definitely going to.
02:44:42.000 All right.
02:44:42.000 Beautiful.
02:44:43.000 Well, thanks for being here, brother.
02:44:44.000 Thanks, man.
02:44:45.000 Thanks for having me.
02:44:46.000 My pleasure.
02:44:46.000 All right.
02:44:47.000 Bye, everybody.