The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #275 - Dave Asprey

00:00:02.000 You got a fake meow now?

00:00:03.000 You son of a bitch?

00:00:04.000 It's supposed to be meow.

00:00:05.000 Meow, by the way, is welded into the desk of the new uh studio desk.

00:00:11.000 The uh the foot of the dead, the legs of the desk.

00:00:13.000 I had it made, constructed by an artist, our friend Eric, and he did a sick job on it.

00:00:18.000 And one of the things that he did just on his own is write the word meow on the side.

00:00:24.000 Because this silly bitch says meow at the beginning of every podcast. 1.00

00:00:28.000 You got to appreciate the little things in life, these gentlemen.

00:00:31.000 And Brian brings the bizarre little things.

00:00:33.000 Just it's the extra flavor.

00:00:34.000 It's the salt on the meat.

00:00:36.000 You know what I'm saying, son?

00:00:38.000 We will be in Minneapolis this weekend.

00:00:41.000 I think there's a couple of tickets left, but it was basically almost sold out.

00:00:46.000 And that is at the Pantages Theater.

00:00:49.000 It will be Joey, motherfucking Coco Diaz, Brian, Red Band, and Doug Benson is also going to stop in and do a set.

00:00:58.000 That should be crazy, yo.

00:01:00.000 That's an awesome show.

00:01:01.000 Yeah, we're going to have some fun.

00:01:02.000 We're going to have some fun.

00:01:03.000 And Minneapolis is awesome, and it hasn't frozen over yet.

00:01:05.000 So we're going to get to them right before shit freezes.

00:01:08.000 Get in, get out.

00:01:09.000 Boom.

00:01:10.000 We also have a show this Wednesday night at the Ice House, a 10 p.m. show.

00:01:14.000 We're going to do these on a regular basis.

00:01:16.000 I'm not doing it next week because I'm going hunting like a man. 0.55

00:01:19.000 Brian Callan, Steve Ranella, and I are going to go deer hunting.

00:01:23.000 I'm going to earn my meat, bitches. 1.00

00:01:25.000 Or not, or become a vegan.

00:01:27.000 Freakouts.

00:01:29.000 It's very possible.

00:01:30.000 Are you going to do any psychedelics while you're out there?

00:01:33.000 The world is listening.

00:01:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:01:35.000 Jesus, son.

00:01:37.000 Jesus.

00:01:38.000 But this Wednesday night, it will be Greg Fitzsimmons, Ian Edwards.

00:01:43.000 I think, no, Doug Benson can't do it.

00:01:46.000 I saw both of those guys at the LA podfest.

00:01:48.000 Greg was hilarious.

00:01:49.000 Greg's always hilarious.

00:01:50.000 He's a great comic.

00:01:51.000 Greg and I have been friends for fucking 23 years.

00:01:55.000 That's when we started doing stand-up together.

00:01:59.000 He's old school, dude.

00:02:01.000 Funny as fuck, though.

00:02:02.000 He slayed that audience.

00:02:03.000 he's a fucking professional I think Duncan's doing it too.

00:02:08.000 Hey.

00:02:09.000 Okay, so, hey, everybody.

00:02:10.000 So this Wednesday night at the Ice House, it's Ian Edwards, fucking hilarious dude.

00:02:15.000 Duncan Trussell, of course, hilarious.

00:02:16.000 Brian Redman, you know him.

00:02:18.000 You love him.

00:02:19.000 Brian Redman, he.

00:02:20.000 And Greg motherfucking Fitzsimmons.

00:02:22.000 So we're going to have a good time.

00:02:23.000 That's 10 o'clock.

00:02:24.000 It's 15 bucks.

00:02:25.000 And we do on a regular basis here.

00:02:27.000 We were asked recently to start doing every Wednesday.

00:02:31.000 So it's as much of that as I can.

00:02:33.000 Sometimes I'm going to be on the road.

00:02:35.000 But when I'm in town, we're going to try to do it.

00:02:37.000 And just a cool place for all our friends to go and do stand-up.

00:02:40.000 And the guys that you'll see are all going to be really funny guys because we don't hang out with any scrubs.

00:02:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:46.000 Yo.

00:02:48.000 I think my fucking flaptops just sound really quietly.

00:02:52.000 The Jerogan experience. 1.00

00:02:53.000 Oh, Hired Primate.

00:02:54.000 My Hired Primate t-shirts are in, too.

00:02:56.000 If you go to hired-primate.com, people have been asking, I finally got all that shit taken care of.

00:03:01.000 Look, I'm a fucking terrible businessman, ladies and gentlemen.

00:03:04.000 But I got some dope t-shirts for sale.

00:03:04.000 Tell me about it.

00:03:06.000 I'm supposed to do my taxes today.

00:03:08.000 Whoops.

00:03:09.000 You're a terrible business person, too.

00:03:11.000 Horrible.

00:03:12.000 I was like, all right, I'll just take the whatever, you get fined or something like money, right?

00:03:19.000 It's not like you go to prison immediately, right?

00:03:20.000 No, I think you get to pay it, but you get fined.

00:03:23.000 Just do that.

00:03:24.000 Yeah, the type of brain that is really organized, that's not the type of brain that does a silly podcast.

00:03:30.000 It's a totally different type of brain.

00:03:32.000 I'm convinced of that.

00:03:33.000 I fight with my illogical tendencies and my procrastination and impulsiveness and craziness.

00:03:41.000 But I think that's the only way comedians' brains work.

00:03:44.000 I think it's just a constant struggle to try to mend into society with that fucking whacked out noodle on your head. 1.00

00:03:51.000 Brian Redband.

00:03:52.000 Anyway, hire-primate.com.

00:03:54.000 That's the t-shirt company.

00:03:56.000 It's all like monkeys and mushrooms and shit.

00:03:58.000 And there's a really cool Joey Diaz shirt.

00:04:00.000 And they're very soft shirts.

00:04:01.000 They're like high-quality shirts.

00:04:02.000 They're not regular, like, fucking normal shirts.

00:04:04.000 No, it's like the highest quality we can get.

00:04:06.000 We got really high-quality, soft t-shirts.

00:04:08.000 So it's like a fashion t-shirt.

00:04:10.000 You know, that was the options.

00:04:11.000 The options were spend a lot of money on really expensive t-shirts or sell cheap ones.

00:04:15.000 But I think they come out cool this way.

00:04:17.000 They're expensive.

00:04:18.000 They're not cheap.

00:04:19.000 But they're really well made.

00:04:21.000 So that's what it is.

00:04:22.000 Onit.com is our other sponsor.

00:04:24.000 If you go to O-N-N-I-T and use the code name Rogan, you will save 10% off any of the supplements.

00:04:29.000 The explanations for all these supplements are also at Onit.

00:04:33.000 I do a terrible job explaining these things.

00:04:35.000 Perhaps Stave Asprey could help us because he's far smarter than I in these things.

00:04:40.000 But I don't really know what's going on.

00:04:41.000 I just know when I use it, it's awesome.

00:04:43.000 And there's a bunch of studies that say the stuff inside of it is awesome.

00:04:46.000 Alpha Brain is my favorite supplement, period.

00:04:48.000 It's the one thing that I make sure I don't go anywhere without.

00:04:50.000 If I'm doing a podcast, I bring it with me.

00:04:52.000 If I'm doing a comedy show, I bring it with me.

00:04:54.000 I take it before every UFC.

00:04:56.000 It's not going to turn a genius or a moron into a genius, but I really definitely feel like it gives me a mental boost, if that makes any sense.

00:05:04.000 And there's been studies that have shown that the ingredients in the doses that we use it have had positive effects in studies.

00:05:11.000 So we're doing our own studies right now.

00:05:13.000 It takes 10 to 12 months for a double-blind placebo study from this university in Boston.

00:05:19.000 And when they're done, they take it and process all the information and figure out whether or not it's legit.

00:05:25.000 So we'll have actual studies, but the ingredients that are in the study, or the ingredients rather that are in AlphaBrain and the doses that we use, have shown positive results.

00:05:35.000 No one's ever proven that there's a synergistic effect of all the ingredients together.

00:05:39.000 That's the controversial aspect of it.

00:05:40.000 Here's the deal, though.

00:05:41.000 The way we have it set up and on it, you get 100% money back from the first 30 pills if you don't think it works, if it's not your thing.

00:05:49.000 Everybody's body's different.

00:05:50.000 I don't know what you feel.

00:05:52.000 I know some people can't drink.

00:05:53.000 I know some people can't smoke pot.

00:05:55.000 Some people can't eat peanuts.

00:05:56.000 The bodies are different.

00:05:58.000 If you don't feel it, I don't know what your sensitivity is.

00:06:00.000 If you don't think it's worth it, you get 100% money back.

00:06:02.000 You don't have to return the product.

00:06:03.000 Nobody's trying to rip you off.

00:06:04.000 We're trying to sell you shit that I use.

00:06:06.000 Everything we sell on it, whether it's vitamins or the blend tech blenders that are coming in tomorrow, we start selling those.

00:06:14.000 Because kale shakes, bitches, you got to get your morning started off correct. 1.00

00:06:18.000 I'm telling you.

00:06:19.000 It's a way to live life.

00:06:21.000 It's a healthier way to get out of bed.

00:06:23.000 That's my new phrase, by the way.

00:06:25.000 I said that all my friends.

00:06:27.000 Kale Shake, bitches. 1.00

00:06:29.000 Kale shakes.

00:06:30.000 This fucking guy in the underground said, I went to the supermarket and there was no kale.

00:06:33.000 Damn you, Joe Rogan.

00:06:36.000 I've noticed restaurants all have like kale everything, like kale Caesar salads now.

00:06:39.000 Kale.

00:06:40.000 Yeah, when we were in Phoenix, I have kale Caesar salad.

00:06:42.000 Yeah, I think kale is becoming more popular now.

00:06:44.000 It's just one of the people, it's a superfood.

00:06:46.000 I mean, people are realizing how it's really, it's got a lot of protein in it.

00:06:49.000 Kale is crazy good for you.

00:06:51.000 It's really fucking good for you.

00:06:53.000 And when you have it in this massive dose, the way I do it, I take the recipe is available at onit.com.

00:06:59.000 My recipe.

00:07:00.000 My recipe is pretty extreme.

00:07:01.000 It's got a lot of garlic in it.

00:07:03.000 It's got a lot of ginger in it.

00:07:04.000 And it's got a fucking wallop.

00:07:06.000 Like it hits you.

00:07:07.000 Boom.

00:07:08.000 It's intense.

00:07:10.000 But you feel good afterwards.

00:07:11.000 God damn it.

00:07:15.000 Everything just feels just, it's alive.

00:07:20.000 Anyway, we also sell kettlebells, battle ropes.

00:07:22.000 Like I said, we have the Blentech blenders coming in and the supplements.

00:07:25.000 There's New Mood, which is a great 5-HTP and L-tryptophan supplement that enhances your brain's production of serotonin.

00:07:35.000 And L-tryptophan converts into 5-HTP and 5-HTP converts into serotonin, right?

00:07:41.000 Is that correct?

00:07:42.000 Yep.

00:07:42.000 Yeah, and this is all done.

00:07:44.000 This is all scientific studies behind all this stuff.

00:07:46.000 And all the information available is not just on Onit.com, but at Google.

00:07:51.000 If you Google nootropics, you'll get a better idea whether or not you're interested in anything.

00:07:55.000 The most important thing to have on mind, though, is you don't have to worry about it.

00:08:01.000 They're just nutrients.

00:08:02.000 It's not drugs.

00:08:03.000 You're not going to test positive for anything at work, including the hemp force protein.

00:08:07.000 That's a big question that comes up all the time.

00:08:08.000 If you have the hemp force protein, no, there's no way you can taste positive, or rather test positive for marijuana.

00:08:15.000 Hemp is completely non-psychoactive.

00:08:19.000 It's just a protein.

00:08:20.000 It's just plants.

00:08:22.000 It's like a cousin to pot.

00:08:24.000 And it's illegal, unfortunately.

00:08:26.000 You can grow it and you can buy it and you can sell it, but you can't grow it, which is fucking crazy.

00:08:32.000 It just shows you what a silly, silly, silly government we have.

00:08:35.000 Because it's an awesome plant.

00:08:37.000 It's got all the amino acids in it.

00:08:39.000 You can make fuel out of it.

00:08:40.000 Henry Ford made one of his first cars out of it.

00:08:43.000 And the fiber of the hemp plant is so durable.

00:08:46.000 It's really like an alien planet.

00:08:48.000 The fact that we don't use it, just the hemp part, forget about the pot, smoking pot, forget about all that.

00:08:54.000 Completely pretend that pot didn't exist.

00:08:58.000 It was never invented.

00:08:59.000 No one ever had it.

00:09:01.000 The hemp itself, making something like hemp illegal is one of the dumbest things a human being can do.

00:09:08.000 It's almost like making apples illegal.

00:09:11.000 It's worse than making apples illegal because you can't make a house out of apples.

00:09:15.000 You make a fucking house out of hemp.

00:09:17.000 You can construct cars out of it that are stronger than steel.

00:09:22.000 It's insane how strong the fibers of this shit is.

00:09:25.000 It makes a far superior paper.

00:09:27.000 It makes far superior clothing, things that don't rip.

00:09:31.000 But the reason why it's illegal is because way back in the 1930s, they invented a machine called a decorticator.

00:09:38.000 And the decorticator takes hemp fiber and it breaks it down and it turns it into something that's useful.

00:09:44.000 It's a long and lengthy process that they used to use slaves for.

00:09:48.000 Then when slavery became illegal, it's much easier to get cotton and use cotton than it is to use hemp.

00:09:55.000 So that's why it's illegal.

00:09:57.000 They all conspired, all these people that didn't want to lose out to the hemp industry, in the cotton industry, in the paper industry, especially William Randolph Hearst.

00:10:05.000 He ran newspapers and he printed stories about Mexicans smoking marijuana and raping white women.

00:10:11.000 It was all like just craziness to get this one plant illegal.

00:10:15.000 And it was actually for its use as a commodity.

00:10:18.000 That's what they were trying to squash.

00:10:20.000 Had nothing to do with it being psychoactive.

00:10:23.000 It's amazing that that hustle has lasted so long.

00:10:27.000 Anyway, we have hemp protein that we buy from Canada and it's the shit.

00:10:31.000 It's called hemp force.

00:10:32.000 What are you doing?

00:10:33.000 You can't handle the truth.

00:10:35.000 Exactly.

00:10:36.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:10:37.000 I can't handle the truth either.

00:10:39.000 I can't handle the truth because even when I say it, when I say that, like that story that I just told, I know that to be a fact.

00:10:44.000 I've read it everywhere.

00:10:45.000 It sounds so dumb.

00:10:47.000 It sounds so ridiculous.

00:10:48.000 It makes me angry.

00:10:49.000 It's like people are just beyond stupid, Brian.

00:10:53.000 Yes.

00:10:54.000 Anyway, enough of me.

00:10:58.000 Go to onit.com.

00:10:59.000 That's O-N-N-I-T. 1.00

00:11:01.000 Ooh, I almost forgot the tangle.

00:11:02.000 I got a lot of fucking commercials, man.

00:11:04.000 If I was on an internet, I would be complaining about me right now.

00:11:07.000 You don't have a lot of commercials.

00:11:08.000 You just always go really long on the Onit one.

00:11:11.000 Well, you know, here's the thing.

00:11:12.000 I go long on anything that I absolutely believe in.

00:11:15.000 It's because you're on it.

00:11:16.000 I am on it.

00:11:17.000 And it also is because I do them in the middle.

00:11:19.000 I don't know how everybody else is doing them, but I think a lot of people are sticking them in the conversations now.

00:11:24.000 I know that that's what Adam Corolla does.

00:11:25.000 He does like podcasts, and then he does commercials, like a radio show.

00:11:30.000 I think that fucks with me.

00:11:32.000 That's why the flashlight was pretty fun, because I could always bring the flashlight up.

00:11:35.000 It's like the Olive Guardian in a conversation.

00:11:37.000 Yes, you always could.

00:11:39.000 I don't think we should keep it as a sponsor just for that reason.

00:11:43.000 Ting is an excellent product, though.

00:11:46.000 Everything we sell on this podcast, I guess we're selling things, everything we promote, there we go, everything we're paid to promote is things that we believe in, 100%.

00:11:55.000 You don't ever have to worry about us trying to rip you off.

00:11:58.000 If there's anything that's being talked about on this podcast, it's always going to be 100% to the best of my knowledge.

00:12:05.000 And if I'm ever incorrect, I will definitely let you know that I fucked up.

00:12:08.000 And everything that we're selling, whether it's through Onnit or through Audible.com or even Ting, is...

00:12:17.000 It's a Ting.

00:12:18.000 That's not a Ting.

00:12:19.000 That's like a ping pong.

00:12:21.000 What is Ting?

00:12:21.000 All right, Ting is a cell phone service that you sign up for and they use Sprint's Backbone.

00:12:27.000 And they sell cool phones.

00:12:29.000 They sell like Android phones, like the Galaxy S3 is a big fucking cool ass one that you see in the commercials every day lately.

00:12:36.000 And they have it set up so that you could quit at any time.

00:12:40.000 You don't have to have contracts.

00:12:42.000 Your minutes can pile onto more than one phone.

00:12:45.000 You can share minutes with your wife.

00:12:49.000 And you also, if you don't use a certain amount of minutes every month, if you're allotted a certain amount of minutes and you don't use them, you're dropped down and credited to the lower level Of a payment plan.

00:13:01.000 So they actually give you money back.

00:13:03.000 I mean, it's a really, it's a really, it's like, it's a really fair company.

00:13:08.000 It's like, I love the ethical way in which they're choosing to do business.

00:13:14.000 They're saying, we make plenty of money.

00:13:16.000 Let's just do this really fair.

00:13:17.000 Let's sell people a quality product, like all these killer Android phones.

00:13:22.000 They have regular phones too if you're into flip phones.

00:13:25.000 But what they decided to do is use this big company's network, use Sprint's Backbone, which is a huge name.

00:13:32.000 I mean, you can't come up with your own, but then use it in a way that they feel is fair.

00:13:38.000 And so they provide an excellent service, and they give you cool phones, and you can quit at any time.

00:13:43.000 I mean, there's no contracts.

00:13:45.000 It's a beautiful situation, and that's really what I think it should be with every cell phone company.

00:13:49.000 It's crazy that you get locked in these contracts, and they rope you in by giving you some crazy discount on this phone, and it's all bananas.

00:13:57.000 But the bottom line is if you want to leave because your service sucks, it costs a lot of money.

00:14:02.000 Well, not with Ting.

00:14:03.000 With Ting, you just bail.

00:14:05.000 Go to rogan.ting.com and you will save 50 bucks off your first digital cellular device for talking to people through the air.

00:14:05.000 That's it.

00:14:15.000 And you too could be on Ting.

00:14:17.000 All right, bitches. 1.00

00:14:18.000 Dave Asprey is here.

00:14:19.000 We're going to get to the bottom of things.

00:14:21.000 We're going to get educated.

00:14:22.000 We're going to get experienced.

00:14:24.000 Ooh, that's my new tagline to be in a very show.

00:14:27.000 It's as cheesy as it gets.

00:14:29.000 We're going to get to see experience.

00:14:31.000 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

00:14:36.000 Dude, we're getting experienced.

00:14:40.000 We just got out of it from being on it, and now we're getting experienced.

00:14:43.000 We're back in it.

00:14:44.000 We're experienced, dude.

00:14:45.000 That's how I'm feeling that right now.

00:14:46.000 Date, thanks for coming, man.

00:14:47.000 Really appreciate it.

00:14:48.000 Tate Fletcher is your number one fanboy, so would you please give Tate a big shout out at the beginning of this podcast?

00:14:55.000 Tate, you rock, man.

00:14:57.000 Tate has bulletproof everything.

00:14:58.000 Every fucking tweet he sends.

00:15:00.000 Stay bulletproof, my friends.

00:15:02.000 That's like he's like the most interesting man in the world, but it's about bulletproof.

00:15:05.000 You know, instead of stay thirsty.

00:15:06.000 He totally rocks.

00:15:08.000 He loves you, man.

00:15:09.000 He's got a fucking serious man crush on your ideas.

00:15:12.000 Homeboy came in with a jug.

00:15:14.000 I love Tate.

00:15:15.000 Me and Tate both have the coffee addiction.

00:15:17.000 I love him for a bunch of reasons, but that's one of them.

00:15:19.000 We both have the coffee addiction.

00:15:21.000 And Tate comes in with this fucking ridiculous, like, camping for a month mug filled with bulletproof coffee.

00:15:28.000 And he poured me some.

00:15:28.000 Nice.

00:15:29.000 It was pretty badass, man.

00:15:30.000 That was my first experience with bulletproof coffee.

00:15:34.000 And this is your creation.

00:15:35.000 And for folks who don't understand what bulletproof coffee is, what it consists of, what's in it exactly?

00:15:35.000 Yep.

00:15:40.000 It's low-toxin coffee, which has a different mental effect than the normal stuff, the swill you can just buy on any street corner.

00:15:47.000 You blend it with grass-fed butter that has certain fatty acids, short-chain fatty acids your brain needs for anti-inflammatory purposes.

00:15:54.000 And you blend it with either coconut oil or MCT oil, which is an extract of coconut oil that's six times stronger.

00:16:01.000 It gets foamy and frothy, just like the best latte you ever had.

00:16:01.000 And you blend it.

00:16:04.000 It doesn't taste gross.

00:16:05.000 It doesn't taste buttery and oily.

00:16:07.000 And when you drink it, you are full for eight hours and you have this incredible focus, this mental focus that it's just insane.

00:16:14.000 Whoa.

00:16:15.000 How is that possible?

00:16:16.000 That's amazing.

00:16:17.000 What is it doing?

00:16:18.000 It's causing, it's like a synergistic effect with the butter and the oil and the coffee.

00:16:23.000 It makes the stimulant last longer.

00:16:25.000 Is that what it is?

00:16:26.000 Well, the hunger part happens because your body's getting the short and medium chain fatty acids that are really hard to get in your diet.

00:16:33.000 So because you're doing that, you're already getting a big boost there.

00:16:36.000 And then we believe that it probably helps to escort the terpenes that are inside coffee, like cafestrol and calohol, the psychoactive compounds that are not caffeine.

00:16:46.000 We think it helps those go into the brain.

00:16:48.000 And the other reason that I'm theorizing that it gives you this kind of boost is because the small drops of fat that are formed when you blend it are called micelles.

00:16:56.000 And they absorb better into the body, and your body can burn MCT for energy without any digestive process required at all.

00:17:02.000 This is a thing that bodybuilders used to get lean and ripped when they're in the shedding phase. 0.99

00:17:06.000 It also happens to cure Alzheimer's disease and makes you feel really good.

00:17:10.000 I put it in my kale shakes.

00:17:12.000 I put four big teaspoons or tablespoons of coconut oil.

00:17:15.000 And it tastes good.

00:17:16.000 It got a good taste to it.

00:17:18.000 Everyone should be eating coconut oil unless they're allergic to coconuts.

00:17:20.000 It's that straightforward.

00:17:21.000 Do you remember when they were saying that coconut oil was bad for you when we were kids?

00:17:25.000 It's like the American Soy Association got one in there.

00:17:27.000 Is that what it was?

00:17:28.000 Yeah, they did a six-week study of hydrogenated coconut oil versus their crap oil.

00:17:33.000 And then, what do you know?

00:17:34.000 It raised cholesterol.

00:17:35.000 And to this day, you ask the average 40, 50-year-old American, you say coconut oil, they say cholesterol.

00:17:40.000 And you're like, there's none in there.

00:17:41.000 It's cholesterol-free.

00:17:42.000 Not that it's a problem if it has cholesterol, but...

00:17:46.000 People are so silly with salt.

00:17:48.000 Salt gives you high blood pressure.

00:17:50.000 No, salt is a fucking mineral, you dummies.

00:17:53.000 It's an essential mineral, and you can have too little of it.

00:17:57.000 Salt is not making you fat.

00:17:59.000 That is so crazy.

00:18:01.000 That thought that salt is making you fat has always driven me fucking bananas.

00:18:05.000 It's going to give you high blood pressure with all that salt.

00:18:08.000 Do you know that it raises your blood pressure within the error margin of a blood pressure cuff?

00:18:13.000 That's it.

00:18:14.000 It's meaningless.

00:18:16.000 Why does everybody connect salt to high blood pressure?

00:18:18.000 It has to do with the marketing of anti-blood pressure drugs.

00:18:22.000 So they found out back in about 1960 that that was a way to lower blood pressure.

00:18:28.000 Well, if you get people to basically pee more water out, their blood gets thicker, so then their blood pressure goes down.

00:18:33.000 So they started looking at salt's effect on that, and they went down this path.

00:18:36.000 And get this, in 1997, the Lancet Medical Journal, which is kind of a badass one, they published a whole thing about how the salt myth didn't work, how there was scientific fraud, how people probably should have gone to jail for spending taxpayer money and making up data.

00:18:50.000 And yet, to this day, you still hear government campaigns to lower salt consumption, knowing full well that it makes your adrenals break when you don't get enough salt.

00:18:57.000 I do 10 grams a day I have for 10 years.

00:18:59.000 I carry a vial of it around with me.

00:19:01.000 I wouldn't think of starting the morning without a teaspoon of salt.

00:19:04.000 Whoa, every morning you're doing your shake.

00:19:07.000 Okay, there's a reason for it.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 Okay.

00:19:09.000 What kind of salt?

00:19:10.000 What's the best?

00:19:10.000 I like the Himalayan crystal salt.

00:19:12.000 It's dope just because it comes from the Himalayas, son.

00:19:14.000 Smoothie, right?

00:19:16.000 The Himalayas is dope.

00:19:17.000 Bringing back some fucking Himalayan salt, son.

00:19:17.000 Yeah.

00:19:21.000 You know, and there's other kinds.

00:19:22.000 Any kind of sea salt is going to do it, but there's less pollution in the Himalayan stuff.

00:19:25.000 And I like the idea that it's mined by one-armed monks. 0.72

00:19:28.000 It's just.

00:19:28.000 Is it really?

00:19:29.000 No.

00:19:30.000 Congrats-fed salt.

00:19:31.000 Imagine the only way to get a job there is you have to chop off one of your arms.

00:19:34.000 Dudes would do it. 1.00

00:19:35.000 There's enough people out there that would do it.

00:19:37.000 People are fucking crazy, man.

00:19:37.000 Probably.

00:19:40.000 I guarantee you they would do it.

00:19:41.000 So, what is the benefit of putting the salt in your body every morning?

00:19:45.000 Here's what happens when you wake up in the morning: when you first wake up, your body says, and this is like your reptilian brain.

00:19:50.000 The low-level parts of your operating system you don't pay any attention to.

00:19:52.000 Oh, the whole thing.

00:19:54.000 Exactly.

00:19:56.000 So you wake up and it says, hmm, this body is going to stand up in a minute.

00:20:00.000 And when it stands up, I've got to have enough blood pressure in the brain.

00:20:03.000 If I don't have enough blood pressure in the brain, he's going to pass out and a tiger's going to eat him.

00:20:06.000 So this is like a survival level imperative inside your body.

00:20:10.000 So what does it do?

00:20:12.000 It goes to your adrenal glands and says, hey, buddy, could you crank up some cortisol and could you change the sodium to potassium ratio?

00:20:17.000 I need you to find sodium, which is hard for people to do.

00:20:19.000 That's why we used to pay our soldiers in salt instead of in gold.

00:20:23.000 And then it says, crank down on potassium, crank up on sodium.

00:20:27.000 If in the morning you take your sodium and you drink it soon after you wake up, your adrenal glands don't have to do all that work.

00:20:32.000 So then you have that adrenal function for the rest of the day to feel good.

00:20:35.000 Brian, I lost one of the headphones.

00:20:39.000 Where's it plugged into, dude?

00:20:41.000 Just right here.

00:20:42.000 I'll do it.

00:20:43.000 Sorry.

00:20:45.000 Oh, you pulled it out?

00:20:46.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 Can you feel the bad adrenaline?

00:20:49.000 I don't know where it goes, but I think it's very simple.

00:20:53.000 So anyhow, what's happening here?

00:20:54.000 Sorry, folks.

00:20:57.000 Your adrenal glands are more relaxed.

00:21:00.000 I actually recommend this, especially for women when they're pregnant, because they have enough stress already. 0.99

00:21:03.000 I have a book coming out in January about how to have better genes and bigger brains in your kids starting even before you get pregnant.

00:21:11.000 Knowing this, having this knowledge in your head, does it infuriate you when you see these lower salt campaigns and you hear people talking about it, like low salt foods?

00:21:22.000 What is that?

00:21:23.000 It used to infuriate me, but to be honest, I've done enough of the meditation and the brain hacking.

00:21:28.000 I don't get mad at stuff like that because it's not worth the cost of getting mad.

00:21:30.000 But what I do is I do something about it.

00:21:32.000 Like that's why I started the Bulletproof Exec blog.

00:21:35.000 There's a lot of this knowledge.

00:21:36.000 I used to weigh 300 pounds.

00:21:37.000 I was profoundly unhealthy for the first half of my life.

00:21:40.000 And no one taught me any of the things that my body can do.

00:21:43.000 It's just the knowledge wasn't out there.

00:21:45.000 And now it is, but there's credibility problems.

00:21:47.000 And I'm like, look, I'm a pretty successful guy, and I wouldn't have been this successful if I hadn't learned all this stuff.

00:21:52.000 So here it is.

00:21:52.000 And it's free.

00:21:53.000 I just give it to people.

00:21:54.000 I've got seven people working for me now doing this.

00:21:56.000 Wow.

00:21:57.000 So you were 300 pounds.

00:21:59.000 And how old were you when this was going on?

00:22:00.000 Let's see.

00:22:01.000 I hit 23 years old.

00:22:02.000 I hit 300 pounds.

00:22:03.000 297 actually.

00:22:05.000 Holy shit, that's big.

00:22:07.000 What was that like?

00:22:08.000 I mean, it sucked.

00:22:09.000 I was fat as a teenager, too.

00:22:10.000 Terrible diet.

00:22:11.000 Well, I thought I was eating the right stuff.

00:22:13.000 In fact, during that time, I worked out six days a week for an hour and a half a day.

00:22:18.000 And I ate 1,800 calories.

00:22:19.000 You know what?

00:22:20.000 If your hormones are jacked, you're not going to lose weight.

00:22:22.000 I did eat less than my thin friends.

00:22:24.000 I just couldn't lose the weight.

00:22:25.000 I was tired all the time, too.

00:22:27.000 Did you have thyroid?

00:22:28.000 Anything with your thyroid?

00:22:29.000 I did have some thyroid issues, but it wasn't just thyroid.

00:22:31.000 Like, there's all kinds of toxin and even like swelling that happens in the body.

00:22:35.000 If you have chronic inflammation turned on, you're going to be storing a third of your fat.

00:22:39.000 Maybe it's not even fat.

00:22:40.000 It's just like tissue inflammation.

00:22:42.000 So for me, I had to figure out what was causing my inflammation and what's your cortisol level.

00:22:46.000 So there's all these delicate hormones that you manipulate through your food and through your environment.

00:22:50.000 And the idea that calories in, calories out matters, I tell you, I ran this experiment.

00:22:56.000 It was a little crazy.

00:22:57.000 I know that the calorie thing is completely broken because we're not robots.

00:23:01.000 You know, we're not like a car.

00:23:02.000 You put gas in and you get so many miles as long as the wind resistance is the same.

00:23:05.000 So I thought I would eat 4,000 calories a day.

00:23:08.000 I'd sleep five hours a night or less and I'd stop exercising.

00:23:11.000 And I thought maybe I'll gain a couple pounds in a month or two and I'll say, look, I should have gained 10 pounds.

00:23:16.000 I gained two pounds.

00:23:16.000 I went for two years.

00:23:18.000 I posted a picture of a six-pack that grew during that time.

00:23:21.000 I should have weighed 616 pounds after two years of this program, not counting the sleep deficit.

00:23:27.000 And I weighed 210 at the end of it and actually was more muscular than I was before.

00:23:32.000 Of course, I was drinking bulletproof coffee.

00:23:33.000 I was doing bulletproof intermittent fasting, which I developed during that time, which is intermittent fasting, but you have only fat in the morning, which gives you this huge boost, the one that Tate was talking about when he was here with you.

00:23:43.000 So you can do all these crazy things with the body.

00:23:46.000 But I'll tell you flat out, like, fat doesn't make you fat, and calories don't make you fat.

00:23:50.000 Calories fuel your brain, though.

00:23:51.000 They're useful, but they're not a very good way of measuring your intake of food.

00:23:55.000 So what is it?

00:23:56.000 How does someone get fat then?

00:23:58.000 It turns out things like leptin resistance, things like inflammation in the gut, and things like insulin all play a role there.

00:24:05.000 What happens is your mitochondria and your cells also can get weak.

00:24:10.000 You actually get used to having to eat every two hours.

00:24:12.000 This idea of frequent snacking to keep your energy up.

00:24:14.000 What you're doing is you're teaching the body to actually need, to not be able to store, to not be resilient, to not be able to store any kind of calories at all.

00:24:23.000 What I do is I teach my body to burn fat, and I keep my calories at at least 50% of my calories are coming from fat, and most of that is saturated fat with some omega-3s mixed in.

00:24:33.000 And what happens there is I can eat pretty much as much as I can stand, and I won't gain any weight that way.

00:24:39.000 So it's simply what causes obesity isn't one single thing, but I will tell you, one of the unknown things that is a major contributor is synthetic estrogen in the environment.

00:24:50.000 A lot of that comes from mold in our food supply.

00:24:53.000 It's called xeralinone.

00:24:54.000 We actually purify it and feed it to industrial beef.

00:24:57.000 We put it in a little waxy pellet in the cow's ear.

00:25:00.000 And here's an example of how much this stuff works.

00:25:02.000 You use xeralinone, it can increase what they call feed efficiency for livestock by 30%.

00:25:07.000 Feed efficiency means if I don't give them this drug and I give them a pound of food, they gain, you know, however many ounces of fat or meat that the cow is going to gain.

00:25:16.000 You put this pellet in their ear, change their hormonal function, they gain 30% more weight on the same amount of food.

00:25:22.000 That stuff is fat soluble and it bioaccumulates.

00:25:25.000 You do not want to be eating hormone-treated beef that was treated to get fat really, really quickly.

00:25:31.000 So we know flat out, just because in animal husbandry, if we can change the calories in, calories out equation by 30%, why couldn't we do it in humans?

00:25:40.000 And the answer is we can.

00:25:41.000 And that's why every time someone tells me, measure how much you eat and measure how much you exercise and you lose weight, it's the biggest myth.

00:25:47.000 I have a whole big research, like 30 references blog post about that.

00:25:52.000 It never was.

00:25:52.000 It's just not true.

00:25:53.000 So when someone drops their calories down and exercises and starts losing fat, Well, what are they doing?

00:26:01.000 You can do it for a little while, but here's what happens.

00:26:04.000 And I can tell you this because I did that lots of times.

00:26:06.000 You lose 25 pounds, you gain 25 pounds, you lose 25 pounds.

00:26:09.000 So it's a slingshot sort of a thing?

00:26:11.000 Yeah, and there's something called epigenetics.

00:26:12.000 And epigenetics is like one of the main subjects of this book that I wrote.

00:26:16.000 And it's awesome because epigenetics shows how the environment changes the expression of your genes.

00:26:22.000 And you get signals from the environment all the time.

00:26:24.000 And two of the biggest signals that you can ever send your body that change the way you actually methylate your DNA are there's a threat, there's something chasing me and it won't stop.

00:26:32.000 And you do this by going for a run every single day without rest instead of practicing high-intensity interval training or instead of giving yourself some recovery time.

00:26:41.000 There's a lot of athletes and even non-athletes who are just playing overtrained.

00:26:44.000 They don't get enough recovery time to actually build the muscle up that they should build because they had to go rip it down again by lifting the next day.

00:26:50.000 So that's one signal, which is that like there's a threat to my species because I keep getting injured on a daily basis.

00:26:55.000 I keep having to run.

00:26:56.000 The other signal you can send is there's a famine.

00:26:59.000 And you tell your body there's a famine by eating low calories or low fat diets.

00:27:03.000 When you do that, it changes your gene expression.

00:27:05.000 And we know that people have went through a famine, that their grandkids have a two to three times higher chance of getting type 2 diabetes.

00:27:12.000 This stuff passes down through the generations.

00:27:14.000 So I'll tell you flat out, like if you're going on especially a low-fat, vegan diet and you're planning to reproduce, your kids are going to be weaker than they would have been before.

00:27:22.000 And the evidence there is pretty darn strong.

00:27:24.000 It's a multiple generation effect.

00:27:27.000 Wow.

00:27:28.000 So a vegan diet is lacking in what?

00:27:32.000 It's lacking in saturated fat, for one thing.

00:27:34.000 Is there a way to make up for it with a vegan diet if you're conscious about it?

00:27:39.000 You can get some in coconut oil, but coconut oil does not have conjugated linoleic acid.

00:27:43.000 It doesn't have a lot of the micronutrients that are present in animal products.

00:27:47.000 You can probably get by on a vegetarian, a very careful vegetarian diet, but in terms of being fully optimal, as in kicking ass at the maximum level of what the human body can do, it's going to take more than just egg yolks.

00:28:00.000 It's going to take some steak and it's going to take some lamb and it's going to take some cod liver oil and things like that.

00:28:05.000 If you're going to be 100% vegan, honestly, I know enough people now who've posted on my blogs, even some close personal friends.

00:28:11.000 One of them was a black belt in Aikido.

00:28:13.000 He went vegan 18 months later, he's allergic to everything.

00:28:16.000 Like he had to go back, but it seriously just decimated his health.

00:28:19.000 So it's a careful thing to do.

00:28:21.000 But I know people who do it and they're very healthy.

00:28:24.000 Guys like Mac Danzig, he's very healthy and he's been a vegan for years.

00:28:28.000 There definitely are some very healthy vegans.

00:28:30.000 I'm friends with some.

00:28:31.000 Aaron Simpson, one of the guys who fights in the UFC, very healthy guy.

00:28:33.000 He's a vegan.

00:28:35.000 How old are these guys?

00:28:36.000 Aaron, I think, is 36, 37.

00:28:39.000 So I'm really curious what their blood work looks like.

00:28:41.000 I'd love to see an anti-aging panel from one of those guys.

00:28:43.000 I don't know if any of them has ever posted it, but I'd love to just go through it and look at their triglycerides from all the fructose they eat.

00:28:48.000 I mean, that's one serious thing, the C-reactive protein.

00:28:52.000 Every anti-aging physician I've worked with, and when I say that, I've run an anti-aging nonprofit group called Silicon Valley Health Institute, S-V-H-I.com or .org.

00:29:01.000 We've been around for 19 years bringing guys in like Aubrey deGray and other big-time anti-aging people to give lectures.

00:29:07.000 And to a T, every single one of them except one has said flat out, I won't take a vegan patient because I cannot make them age less quickly.

00:29:16.000 Like it just doesn't work.

00:29:17.000 And these are guys who like see 10 patients a day with carefully demonstrated panels.

00:29:23.000 The bottom line is I would love it if the vegan diet was safe and effective.

00:29:27.000 I was a raw vegan for about four months, and after that I became a raw omnivore for another six or seven months before I went off to Tibet and China.

00:29:36.000 I'm not eating raw yak in Tibet.

00:29:38.000 No?

00:29:38.000 No, I was kind of hanging out from the mud wall.

00:29:41.000 I'm like, you better cook that.

00:29:45.000 Yeah.

00:29:45.000 Yak, huh?

00:29:46.000 What does yak taste like?

00:29:48.000 It's actually awesome.

00:29:49.000 Some of the best meat I've ever had.

00:29:50.000 Really?

00:29:50.000 It's better than grass-fed beef, even like the best primo grass-fed.

00:29:54.000 Really?

00:29:54.000 Yeah.

00:29:55.000 Yak, huh? 0.99

00:29:56.000 Well, you would think people would know about that.

00:29:58.000 Well, the problem is it only eats some kind of weird moss that grows at high altitude and it dies when you bring it to low altitude, so it's kind of a constrained supply.

00:30:04.000 Oh, wow.

00:30:06.000 That's fascinating.

00:30:07.000 It's a seriously tough animal, though.

00:30:09.000 Yeah.

00:30:09.000 Yaks?

00:30:10.000 I mean, they're ginormous.

00:30:11.000 Like, most of the things you see are only half yak, half cow, but the real ones are bigger than...

00:30:16.000 I would think they'd be like real gamey and yak.

00:30:18.000 Yeah, yak pizza, yak filet mignon.

00:30:22.000 Oh, yeah.

00:30:23.000 It was wild.

00:30:26.000 So this is an incredibly fascinating subject to me because I've always wondered like what it is about certain people.

00:30:36.000 They store so much fat and certain people just stay lean no matter what.

00:30:41.000 Some of that obviously is genetics.

00:30:44.000 But what is wrong with their diet that takes a person and just blows them up to 350, 400 pounds?

00:30:52.000 I mean, there's got to be, there's a critical issue, right?

00:30:55.000 Is it sugar?

00:30:56.000 Is it what is it?

00:30:57.000 Is it pastas and carbs that turn to sugar?

00:30:59.000 It's actually sugar plus inflammation.

00:31:01.000 So it's that combination of omega-6, like excess omega-6 oils, plus sugar and corn syrup and things like that.

00:31:07.000 What you're doing is you're basically just completely wrecking the metabolism when you do that.

00:31:12.000 Omega-6 oils have lots of polyunsaturated bonds.

00:31:16.000 I'm talking corn oil, canola oil, stuff like that.

00:31:19.000 And vegetable oil.

00:31:21.000 What happens there, soy oil is another one.

00:31:24.000 Every unsaturated bond in that oil can oxidize.

00:31:26.000 And what oxidizes it is oxygen, heat, and light.

00:31:30.000 So most of these oils get oxidized before you even eat them, but in the body, you try and make cell walls out of them.

00:31:36.000 And when that happens, you end up with less flexible cell walls that aren't able to express the insulin receptors very well.

00:31:41.000 So we end up with lots of problems like that because we end up getting these oils that oxidize easily.

00:31:48.000 When they're oxidized inside the body, they make free radicals.

00:31:50.000 So you get general systemic inflammation.

00:31:53.000 And you can measure these levels.

00:31:54.000 Like if you take a vegan and you look at their omega-6 to omega-3 ratio, it can be 30, 40 to 1.

00:32:00.000 The average American on a crap industrial meat diet is at 40 to 1 right now.

00:32:05.000 My blood levels are 1.28 to 1 of my omega-6 to omega-3 ratios.

00:32:09.000 And that helps me to crank my inflammation way down.

00:32:11.000 And it helps me to express healthy insulin receptors.

00:32:14.000 So I don't get insulin resistance.

00:32:16.000 I don't get leptin resistance.

00:32:18.000 And that lets me, even now I can go out, I can eat a relatively heavy sugar meal.

00:32:22.000 I don't get a coma from it, even though I used to get a coma from it when I weighed 280 pounds or 300 pounds.

00:32:27.000 I can also go 18 hours without eating, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.

00:32:31.000 And that's a pretty big difference from, I used to be the guy, I'm like, it's 1145.

00:32:36.000 We got to end this meeting right now because I have to eat because if I don't eat, I'm going to kill someone.

00:32:40.000 You can go 18 hours.

00:32:42.000 Yeah, in fact, I did it yesterday.

00:32:43.000 Yeah, I had my last meal at 4 p.m. last night, and then again at 2 today.

00:32:47.000 I guess that was more than 22 hours.

00:32:48.000 Now, what do you say about people that say that you should have like some sort of a post-workout sugary meal, some like a lot of glucose, high glucose, a little bit of protein?

00:32:58.000 What do you think about that?

00:32:59.000 I've looked at that, and what you're trying to do there is you're trying to spike your insulin afterwards because insulin, well, we have insulin-like growth factor, IGF-1, which causes you to build muscles.

00:33:08.000 It's insulin-like because it has the same effects as insulin.

00:33:10.000 So you eat a lot of sugar, spike your insulin, allegedly lay down more muscle.

00:33:14.000 There's a couple studies I've seen, and I can't cite sources from memory right now, but what I recall from seeing them is that it looks like that the effect in IGF-1 probably isn't as good as you'd like it to be.

00:33:25.000 What I do after I work out is I typically have a good amount of protein, a good amount of fat, and some starch, not a lot, and I choose low-toxin starches, which is kind of hard to do.

00:33:36.000 I've got the bulletproof diet up on the site where it's a free, but it's an infographic that basically ranks foods based on three criteria.

00:33:42.000 And if you get a bulletproof starch, like a white rice that's properly rinsed and cooked, or sweet potatoes, butternut squash, things like that, what you're doing is you're getting your carbs up enough that you can still even stay in a state of ketosis, maybe, maybe not.

00:33:56.000 But what you can do there is you can reduce your stress hormone levels.

00:33:59.000 And that eating right after you work out drops your cortisol.

00:34:02.000 And if your cortisol doesn't get dropped in that post-workout window, you get a cortisol spike that lasts for 48 hours.

00:34:08.000 So you're not going to get as much muscle.

00:34:10.000 So it's absolutely critical to eat, but do you need sugar or do you need protein and fat?

00:34:14.000 I would tend towards protein and fat with a small amount of starch.

00:34:17.000 So how did it get started that people learned how to drink chocolate milk?

00:34:21.000 That was like the big thing for a while.

00:34:23.000 It was like, chocolate milk is the best post-workout drink.

00:34:26.000 You know, there's effects from milk on IGF-1 as well.

00:34:29.000 Like, milk will cause you to put on weight.

00:34:31.000 It'll cause you to put on fat too.

00:34:32.000 But if you want to bulk up, you know, milk works for bulking up.

00:34:36.000 Why chocolate milk?

00:34:37.000 Because someone said, oh, let's raise the insulin some more.

00:34:38.000 But God, look at what's in chocolate milk.

00:34:40.000 At least make your own with real chocolate.

00:34:42.000 What is in chocolate milk?

00:34:43.000 It's usually high fructose corn syrup.

00:34:44.000 Like what are the insulins?

00:34:45.000 That's terrible for you.

00:34:46.000 Yeah, and plus you've got problems with when you homogenize milk, you take those fat droplets that your body really needs and you put them through a super fine screen under pressure, which makes these extremely fine fat droplets that your body doesn't know how to handle that can actually enter cells.

00:35:01.000 So homogenization can increase inflammation and it causes weird fat reactions that your body's not ready for.

00:35:07.000 And also when they pasteurize the milk, you get casein.

00:35:11.000 And casein is an inflammatory compound, depending on how it's processed, but it's a very careful protein.

00:35:16.000 I don't need any casein.

00:35:17.000 I know lots of people who are just plain allergic to it.

00:35:20.000 And I mean, you've probably had people in here talking about the China study.

00:35:24.000 That was an incredibly misrepresented book, but one of the key points at the very beginning was that casein can increase inflammation and be linked to liver cancer.

00:35:32.000 And that's actually true.

00:35:33.000 So, man, in order to get some protein, you're getting casein, which has been pasteurized.

00:35:38.000 You're getting fat in the wrong form.

00:35:39.000 You're getting high fructose corn syrup.

00:35:41.000 I could probably formulate a better post-workout drink using MCT oil, like bulletproof low-toxin chocolate maybe.

00:35:47.000 You could use honey even.

00:35:48.000 Like raw honey has a different effect than, say, normal sugar does, and normal sugar has a different effect than high-fructose corn syrup.

00:35:55.000 What is the deal with corn?

00:35:57.000 Why do we use so much corn?

00:35:59.000 It's high fructose corn syrup, and corn is in so many different things.

00:36:02.000 Everywhere.

00:36:03.000 Is that a lobby thing?

00:36:05.000 Yeah, corn and soy are lobby things and also farm subsidies, right?

00:36:09.000 You know, you grow corn and soy, you get extra money from the government for growing this stuff.

00:36:13.000 We've got the whole Monsanto connection there, which is just beyond evil from my perspective.

00:36:18.000 It's confusing.

00:36:20.000 It's very confusing that it's real.

00:36:21.000 It's very confusing that there's a company out there that's trying to make these genetically modified food and then force farmers to grow them.

00:36:28.000 And when you see the suicide rates in India, they're absolutely stunning. 1.00

00:36:32.000 I mean, it's like they're having suicides there every day, all day long.

00:36:36.000 People are killing themselves because of Monsanto.

00:36:38.000 There's been hundreds of thousands of suicides in India linked to Monsanto.

00:36:43.000 It's really crazy, these poor farmers.

00:36:46.000 There's even more profound evil going on.

00:36:48.000 And one of my pet peeves, things I talk about, and I've studied it extensively, is called mycotoxins.

00:36:52.000 And these are toxins that form from fungus in the environment.

00:36:55.000 And the combination of DuPont plus Monsanto is a shocking story.

00:37:00.000 Like 30 years ago, DuPont made this pesticide called Benomil.

00:37:04.000 And what Benomil did is it killed all fungus.

00:37:07.000 Like 98% of fungus it touched would just die.

00:37:09.000 Unfortunately, the other 2% would get like X-Man mutation turned on.

00:37:13.000 So whole plasmid-level mutation, it's called.

00:37:15.000 What this means is that instead of one gene mutating like nature does, whole groups of genes would mutate.

00:37:20.000 And get this, a fungus can change plasmids like baseball cards with other fungus.

00:37:24.000 So what's going on here is we created X-Men fungus that reproduce every 20 minutes 30 years ago.

00:37:29.000 And some of these new toxic molds that are like uber vicious, you know, that poison people in their houses and all, and I've had that happen to me.

00:37:36.000 You know, Stachybotris and Aspergillus in your kitchen will mess your head up, sometimes permanently.

00:37:41.000 And what's going on is Benomil made these toxic, but then you spray Roundup on soil.

00:37:46.000 Roundup completely disrupts the soil microbes.

00:37:48.000 These are like the probiotics of the planet.

00:37:50.000 Like our soil health is really important.

00:37:52.000 So now you get mutated X-Men stuff growing in the soil, and then you piss it off with Roundup, and you get 500 times more toxins.

00:37:59.000 And then that mold that's left, fusarium, grows in the corn.

00:38:02.000 In fact, it's a major pest, it's a major pest for corn in the U.S. You get dried corn with toxic mold forming fusarium in it.

00:38:09.000 A majorly large percentage.

00:38:10.000 I don't know for this year.

00:38:12.000 Some years it's up to 98% of corn has this toxic mold growing in it.

00:38:15.000 What?

00:38:16.000 It's crazy stuff.

00:38:17.000 And this is not like any kind of weird, you know, conspiracy theory thing.

00:38:20.000 This is documented in agricultural science.

00:38:22.000 Just no one in biochemistry that I know of tends to read the studies on mycotoxins because they're all like off in agriculture land instead of in health land.

00:38:29.000 So you're saying that 98% of corn has this mycotoxin in it and it's not killed by any production process and turning it into bread or turning it into cornbread or tortillas or anything like that?

00:38:42.000 It's a myco, not micro, M-Y-C-O, like as in myco, like mushroom derived.

00:38:47.000 Yeah, like my cells, right.

00:38:48.000 And some of it is killed.

00:38:50.000 We've heard of these mycotoxins before.

00:38:51.000 Aflatoxin, everyone knows that's a bad one in peanuts.

00:38:54.000 Or penicillin, like a tiny little capsule of penicillin, which is just mold extract, has this profound effect on Your body, right?

00:39:01.000 Well, there's other stuff out there that has a profound effect on your body at a parts per million level.

00:39:05.000 And I don't know if this year 98% of corn is.

00:39:08.000 That's the maximum I found in my data.

00:39:10.000 But at least a third, almost every year in the U.S., of corn, of dried corn product that's out there, like animal feed, like masa, like corn tortillas, has stuff in it.

00:39:19.000 And fusario makes three classes of toxins that mess with your brain and with your hormones and with your protein formation.

00:39:24.000 And that's why on the bulletproof diet, I look first at macronutrients and then I look at anti-nutrients like mycotoxins and heterocyclic amines and all the others.

00:39:33.000 And you've got to be a little careful in your food.

00:39:35.000 If you want to like really kick ass and be mentally focused all the time, these are the things that get in there and muck with your head.

00:39:41.000 Some people are more sensitive than others, but if you reduce the level of these things in your diet, you think better.

00:39:46.000 And that's one reason you can do the bulletproof diet in the morning.

00:39:49.000 All you're drinking with bulletproof intermittent fasting is low-toxin coffee, low-toxin butter, and toxin-free MCT oil.

00:39:54.000 You do that, you had nothing messing with your head, only good stuff, no bad stuff.

00:39:59.000 That is absolutely fascinating.

00:40:02.000 So everyone's being poisoned, essentially.

00:40:04.000 Everyone who's eating all these corn products is being poisoned.

00:40:07.000 Yep, at low levels, they are.

00:40:08.000 And the links between heart disease and cancer and mycotoxins are very well established.

00:40:15.000 In fact, a WHO researcher who's written the most research of anyone on mycotoxins has a whole book this thick called Fungal Bionics, where he cites 900 different studies about the links between atherosclerosis and cancer.

00:40:28.000 That's heart disease.

00:40:29.000 Direct quote from this author.

00:40:31.000 He says, there is a known cause of atherosclerosis, and it is mycotoxins.

00:40:36.000 Pig farmers know this.

00:40:37.000 They know that if they get these grains that have mold growing in them, they have test kits they can buy where they test the grain because they know they feed too much grain to the pigs, the pigs will get lesions in their arteries, or the pigs will lose their litter before they can deliver it.

00:40:50.000 But what they do is they wait till the pigs are far enough along, then they feed the cheaper toxic grain to the pigs or the cows, and that fattens them up faster, and it costs less money, and the fact that some of that stuff is still in the meat, your problem.

00:41:03.000 Wow.

00:41:04.000 So when you're getting pork chops, you're getting it because they eat grain.

00:41:07.000 It all depends on who fed the pig.

00:41:09.000 Jesus Christ.

00:41:10.000 So when you're getting steak, you're getting that.

00:41:12.000 If you're not eating grass-fed steak, you're making a mistake.

00:41:15.000 And that's one of the reasons, you go on a vegan diet.

00:41:17.000 If you're eating really good quality, non-moldy vegan food, you're going to get less toxins.

00:41:21.000 Like you compare vegan or vegetarian versus standard industrial meat-based meat and hydrogenated fat and MSG diet.

00:41:27.000 Man, I would rather be a vegan than a standard American diet any day of the week.

00:41:31.000 The problem is that if I want to, for many, many years, have the highest energy levels, the most focus, with the least amount of effort, you're not going to be able to achieve that on the vegan diet.

00:41:40.000 And I don't think you'll hit your very top level of performance as 100% vegan.

00:41:44.000 You could probably be mostly vegan, but you're going to be missing out on some things over time.

00:41:48.000 There's pretty good research on my site about that.

00:41:51.000 It's unbelievable that you sound so convincing, but I'm too stupid to know if you're right.

00:41:58.000 There's a lot of convincing vegans out there, too.

00:42:00.000 Well, you know, there's a lot of people that tell you how much it changed their life, but my point with a lot of those people is that generally, and it's not all, but generally they come from a really bad diet and then they start eating vegetables and they feel better.

00:42:00.000 Yes, there are.

00:42:13.000 Well, of course you're going to feel better.

00:42:15.000 But I think your point really does make a lot of sense as to what is the optimum way to do it.

00:42:21.000 This is all stuff that I'd never heard before.

00:42:23.000 I'd never heard that all meat has some sort of low-level.

00:42:30.000 But it's only industrial meat.

00:42:31.000 I have half a cow in my fridge.

00:42:33.000 It grew up three miles from my house.

00:42:34.000 It cost $3.50 a pound, and it's grass-fed.

00:42:38.000 It never ate any grain.

00:42:39.000 It was well-treated.

00:42:40.000 It was butchered humanely.

00:42:41.000 And it tastes awesome.

00:42:43.000 Like, it's really good meat.

00:42:44.000 You have a big freezer?

00:42:44.000 So what do you do?

00:42:45.000 Yeah, I just have a, it costs $300 at Costco.

00:42:47.000 It's not even that hard to do.

00:42:48.000 You just buy the freezer, toss it in the back of the car, bring it home, throw it in the basement.

00:42:52.000 And you've got meat that costs a third of what it's going to cost, or 20% of what it would cost at Whole Foods.

00:42:57.000 I've got links on my site.

00:42:58.000 You can order 100 pounds at a time and just have it shipped to your house.

00:43:01.000 Jesus Christ.

00:43:02.000 But doesn't it taste funky because it's frozen?

00:43:05.000 You know, this is a funny thing about meat.

00:43:07.000 When they hang meat to let it age, what they're doing is they're letting basically mold and bacteria in the environment work on the meat.

00:43:15.000 Well, the links between those molds and human health are not so good.

00:43:19.000 Think about it.

00:43:19.000 This is a mold that likes to eat meat.

00:43:22.000 And Joe, you and me are made out of meat.

00:43:24.000 So the incidence of low-level fungal infections, like I don't eat dry-age meat that's cooked really rare because there's still active fungus that likes to eat what I'm made out of in there.

00:43:33.000 I don't give a fuck.

00:43:33.000 I don't think man.

00:43:34.000 How do I not know about that?

00:43:35.000 That's how I burn calories, Joe, is this meat and mold.

00:43:38.000 That's it?

00:43:40.000 You snort and mold.

00:43:41.000 So it turns out you want the freshest of anything.

00:43:44.000 As soon as you kill it and you drain the blood, throw it in the freezer and when you're ready to eat it, take it out.

00:43:48.000 How many hours from the time it's killed is it butchered and then frozen?

00:43:52.000 The stuff that I have, I actually specially requested it.

00:43:55.000 It was about two days.

00:43:56.000 Two days?

00:43:57.000 So just meat lays around for two days?

00:43:57.000 Yeah.

00:43:59.000 Yeah, what they do is they hang it in a climate-controlled environment which lets all the blood come out.

00:44:03.000 But typical like high-end steak, 21 days, sometimes up to like 64 days.

00:44:07.000 Dry-aged steak.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, and then, you know, dry-aged meat tastes amazing.

00:44:10.000 I'm not going to even say that it's bad, but the difference in how dry-aged meat makes your brain feel versus fresh meat that's been frozen right away and then defrosted and cooked, you will feel like a different human being when you eat that stuff.

00:44:22.000 What is killed during the freezing process?

00:44:24.000 Is there anything that's killed?

00:44:26.000 It's not about the killing, although it can kill parasites.

00:44:28.000 Like they use that in sushi.

00:44:30.000 You freeze sushi for a while at very low temperatures to kill parasites.

00:44:33.000 What's going on is you're preventing the formation of these basically psychoactive compounds that form in addition to those nice yummy flavors that come from the yeast and the fungus sending tendrils into the meat.

00:44:44.000 So that nice kind of soft, mushy, dry edge meat, even if it's grass-fed, it has health impacts, including cardiovascular impacts that are not present for fresh meat that was frozen.

00:44:54.000 Wow.

00:44:55.000 But yet so delicious.

00:44:56.000 Nature's fucked us again, man.

00:44:58.000 I still eat bacon.

00:44:59.000 I have no problems with it.

00:45:00.000 What is the thing?

00:45:01.000 Why does dry edge?

00:45:02.000 Because dry age does taste pretty damn good.

00:45:05.000 Here's how we discovered dry edge, right?

00:45:07.000 How long have we really had good freezers?

00:45:09.000 Right.

00:45:09.000 Not that long.

00:45:10.000 So you're going to kill a giant cow 100 years ago.

00:45:13.000 You're going to hang it in the coolest place you can find and you're going to whack off pieces of it and eat it like kind of cow on the cob, right?

00:45:20.000 Yeah, I guess so.

00:45:21.000 I mean, back then, they must have eaten a lot of rotten meat just to keep it going.

00:45:25.000 Now, did that have anything to do with the appendix?

00:45:29.000 Or was the appendix for processing fiber?

00:45:31.000 What was the appendix for processing?

00:45:33.000 I don't think that there's a scientific consensus there.

00:45:35.000 I've heard it's a store for probiotics, potentially, like the healthy bacteria.

00:45:41.000 that's like the little storehouse for them.

00:45:43.000 But I've never heard a definitive, this is why we had an appendix that everyone agreed with.

00:45:49.000 So humans for a long time had to be able to deal with a certain amount of fungus and bacteria.

00:45:55.000 It's just evolution.

00:45:56.000 In fact, Wired magazine just published this whole thing.

00:45:59.000 Like, oh, we've been focusing on the genome of the bacteria in the gut, and we just noticed there's just as much fungus growing in your gut as there is bacteria, and we don't know anything about it.

00:46:07.000 Jesus Christ.

00:46:08.000 How weird is it that we have organisms that are essential to human survival and they live inside of our intestinal tract?

00:46:15.000 They're essential.

00:46:16.000 If you don't have them, you will die.

00:46:18.000 The question is, are they apart from human?

00:46:20.000 I mean, that's a part of being human, right?

00:46:21.000 If you're dead without them, they're just like part of your repair system.

00:46:24.000 Yeah, they're the soldiers.

00:46:25.000 They're your little soldiers.

00:46:26.000 When I tell people about probiotics, I used to get sick a lot when I went on the road until I really started getting into probiotics.

00:46:34.000 I like the way it tastes, and I'll drink a couple of those a day, and I'm covered.

00:46:37.000 And it's made a huge, significant impact on how many colds that I get.

00:46:41.000 I mean, it's just, they stopped.

00:46:42.000 They just stopped.

00:46:43.000 I love it.

00:46:44.000 And the way I explain to people, I go, it's like when you eat healthy bacteria, it's like sending soldiers.

00:46:49.000 You have healthy soldiers that are going to go out and whack all the shitty things that you touch.

00:46:54.000 Like, it really does work that way.

00:46:56.000 But now think about this.

00:46:58.000 If you do that, you drink your kombucha, and then you go have a normal ribeye that was fed industrial meat, it's got antibiotics in that meat.

00:47:05.000 They use antibiotics because they make animals fatter faster.

00:47:08.000 So it's not that they're using it to keep them from getting sick.

00:47:10.000 They just want the muscle striations.

00:47:12.000 They want the fat to marble through the muscle. 0.96

00:47:15.000 So now you're eating that, you just wax those nice bacteria that you put in your gut.

00:47:19.000 And that's why I'm kind of militant.

00:47:20.000 When I go out, I'll eat fish, like non-farmed fish, wild-caught fish, long before I'm going to eat steak at a normal steakhouse.

00:47:27.000 If they say, oh, it's grass-fed, grass-finished steak, I'm like, double, you know, load me up.

00:47:30.000 I'll have two pounds of it.

00:47:31.000 But the rest of the time, when I'm on the road, you'll see in my backpack, I've got, you know, smoked sockeye salmon.

00:47:37.000 stuff is as clean as it gets.

00:47:38.000 So when you go to a restaurant, what kind of stuff you'd rather...

00:47:44.000 A lot of fish is farmed fish.

00:47:46.000 Like that weird salmon where they actually change the color of the flesh to try to When you get these prison bitch salmon, the ones that you buy in the supermarket, they have like this pale flesh. 1.00

00:47:58.000 It's like they just like, fuck it.

00:47:59.000 And it's mushy.

00:48:00.000 It's gross.

00:48:01.000 They're feeding them pellets, you know?

00:48:03.000 And the pellets are like soy and corn and antibiotics, plus ground-up sardines.

00:48:08.000 They're environmentally destructive.

00:48:09.000 Like you shouldn't buy farmed fish on principle because it's bad for the world.

00:48:13.000 Like our oceans are already screwed up enough.

00:48:14.000 We don't need that.

00:48:16.000 It's also like, it seems fucked up.

00:48:18.000 I mean, it's fucked up enough that you catch them with nets, you know, and just swoop through an entire environment and kill everything and rope it up.

00:48:26.000 That's fucked up enough.

00:48:28.000 But at least those are wild.

00:48:29.000 They were wild until that moment and then they got jacked.

00:48:32.000 But to just live in this fucking kiddie pond while they throw this bullshit on top of you and that's all you have to eat.

00:48:39.000 Just seems fucking stupid.

00:48:40.000 I think there's certain things that people do to animals that are really arrogant.

00:48:45.000 And zoos are one of them.

00:48:47.000 Oh, you know.

00:48:48.000 Zoos kind of break my heart, even the real natural ones.

00:48:50.000 But I've been to zoos like in Cambodia and all.

00:48:53.000 And like, you see the stress behavior in animals.

00:48:55.000 It's just horrible.

00:48:56.000 It shouldn't be allowed.

00:48:58.000 I'm a hypocrite because I go because I want my kids to see what animals look like because it's interesting.

00:49:04.000 But if I had my choice, I would say, bring me back to the woods, man.

00:49:08.000 Let them live in the jungle. 0.99

00:49:10.000 This is nonsense.

00:49:10.000 Let them live where they live.

00:49:12.000 Like, you either want to get rid of them because they're dangerous or, you know, leave them the fuck alone.

00:49:19.000 Those are the two options.

00:49:20.000 The idea that you can take them and just lock them in this little environment so people can stare at them as they pace in circles.

00:49:26.000 That's torture.

00:49:27.000 That's craziness.

00:49:28.000 And don't even let them kill anything.

00:49:29.000 And you know what's bad?

00:49:30.000 Look what they feed those animals. 1.00

00:49:32.000 They all die like in a third the amount of time they live in the wild.

00:49:34.000 And it's not just stress from being in captivity and having people throw cigarette butts at you.

00:49:39.000 It's because they feed them crap.

00:49:41.000 And they're sort of figuring that out.

00:49:42.000 Oh, look, they keep dying.

00:49:44.000 And we keep having surgery and doing all this weird stuff to keep them alive.

00:49:47.000 Kind of like they do for people now.

00:49:48.000 Yeah.

00:49:49.000 They're giving them prison food.

00:49:51.000 Poor fucking gorillas.

00:49:52.000 So sad.

00:49:53.000 It was sad, man.

00:49:54.000 Just watching them pace around that thing.

00:49:55.000 I was like, wow.

00:49:56.000 You know, my two-year-old thinks it's awesome.

00:49:58.000 But, you know, to me, it's kind of trippy.

00:50:01.000 Eagles, they had eagles in this net.

00:50:03.000 The eagles couldn't fly.

00:50:04.000 It was crazy.

00:50:05.000 They could fly like a little bit and then land and fly a little bit.

00:50:08.000 And you're like, oh, my God, they must be going nuts.

00:50:10.000 They're fucking bald eagles and they can't just soar.

00:50:13.000 Like, they could soar, man, and float around.

00:50:16.000 And they want to kill rabbits and things like that.

00:50:17.000 I'm pretty sure they're not getting much of that going on.

00:50:19.000 They're little eagle pellets.

00:50:21.000 They're giving them dog shit in a can. 1.00

00:50:24.000 It's terrible.

00:50:25.000 What are they feeding them?

00:50:26.000 They push out a little tray of meat and the eagle eats it.

00:50:29.000 It's ridiculous.

00:50:32.000 We would take away the one thing that nature must have them set up for.

00:50:37.000 A massive reward of endorphins and of whatever the fuck their little brains produce or little lizard asshole questions. 1.00

00:50:45.000 Evil eyes.

00:50:46.000 You ever look at the eyes of an eagle?

00:50:47.000 What a creepy fucking eyeball.

00:50:49.000 Those things.

00:50:49.000 That eagle is just representing our country very well, Joe.

00:50:53.000 Look at the eagle fly.

00:50:55.000 Have you ever heard that video where that crazy dude that used John Ashcroft?

00:51:00.000 You remember John Ashcroft?

00:51:01.000 Yeah, super crazy.

00:51:02.000 Super crazy.

00:51:03.000 But he has a song.

00:51:05.000 Remember, did we play on the podcast once?

00:51:07.000 Yeah.

00:51:08.000 Just look up John Ashcroft, Let the Eagle Soar.

00:51:08.000 We won't play it again.

00:51:12.000 Oh my God.

00:51:14.000 Or Let the Eagle Fly.

00:51:16.000 What is it?

00:51:16.000 Something like that.

00:51:17.000 Add dubstep at the end of it.

00:51:19.000 It's probably better.

00:51:21.000 It's amazingly crazy.

00:51:22.000 Have you seen it?

00:51:23.000 A long time ago, yeah.

00:51:25.000 It's amazingly crazy.

00:51:26.000 Did you watch that skydiver?

00:51:28.000 Yes.

00:51:28.000 That was amazing.

00:51:29.000 Did you see that?

00:51:30.000 That's awesome.

00:51:30.000 I was hoping that a UFO was going to snatch him out of the sky on his way down.

00:51:34.000 How does he not faint?

00:51:36.000 Because isn't that something like, you know, like scaring a bunny rabbit that just your body can't take falling from space?

00:51:42.000 He almost did.

00:51:42.000 He said he was spinning, and he said that if he spun anymore, he could pass out and die.

00:51:47.000 And so he was like, do I pull the rip cord and slow down and not hit the record?

00:51:50.000 And he said, I'm just going to do it anyway.

00:51:52.000 And he didn't pass out.

00:51:53.000 Yeah, he was flipping.

00:51:53.000 Wow.

00:51:55.000 And then he leveled out somehow or another.

00:51:56.000 I don't know how he leveled out.

00:51:57.000 I guess he did that flying squirrel thing.

00:51:59.000 Oh.

00:52:00.000 Yeah, it was really weird to watch him step off of it, though.

00:52:03.000 That was really weird.

00:52:05.000 To be right behind him with the camera and watch him just drop out of sight.

00:52:08.000 That's pretty epic.

00:52:09.000 That dude was in a balloon.

00:52:11.000 I didn't know you could take a balloon to space.

00:52:12.000 That's ridiculous.

00:52:13.000 Did you know that?

00:52:14.000 No.

00:52:15.000 Who'd want to?

00:52:16.000 I didn't know you could take a balloon to space.

00:52:18.000 Why haven't we done this already?

00:52:19.000 Why aren't there trips to go to space in a balloon?

00:52:22.000 Yeah, Richard Branson should check this guy out.

00:52:23.000 What's up, Rich?

00:52:25.000 And if you're right, here's another question.

00:52:27.000 Is it possible you're hit by a satellite?

00:52:29.000 Because don't satellites whip around the Earth?

00:52:32.000 Going like 500 miles an hour or something?

00:52:32.000 Sure, it would be.

00:52:34.000 They're usually probably like, you know, like states off, you know, like millions of miles off.

00:52:39.000 Like, oh, that almost hit me at like a million miles.

00:52:41.000 It's the space junk.

00:52:42.000 So we didn't talk about this, but like, I'm a geek.

00:52:44.000 Like, I'm a vice president at a computer internet security company, like Silicon Valley guy.

00:52:49.000 And yeah, we have like problems with space junk, serious problems where they map it all out and there's like storms where like little nuts from like a Chinese rocket from 40 years ago or whatever is spinning around, probably not 40 years.

00:52:59.000 And they're like bullets.

00:53:00.000 I mean they're hypersonic.

00:53:01.000 And they poke holes in satellites.

00:53:03.000 They can kill people in space stations.

00:53:05.000 So it's getting to be like.

00:53:06.000 Oh my god.

00:53:06.000 Oh yeah.

00:53:07.000 It's kind of dangerous up there.

00:53:08.000 Jesus Christ.

00:53:09.000 Could you imagine sitting in the fucking space station and you hear like bolts?

00:53:12.000 Yeah, you hear ding and you're like, that's just punched the hole.

00:53:15.000 It punches a hole right through the other side.

00:53:17.000 And you look down, your leg is bleeding.

00:53:19.000 They track all that stuff now so they know if it's coming.

00:53:21.000 Oh my God.

00:53:22.000 They track the bolts that are flying in space.

00:53:25.000 How many of them are there?

00:53:26.000 Like hundreds of thousands now.

00:53:28.000 Oh my God.

00:53:29.000 And you have like whole like, you know, leftover fuel capsules and all this stuff, astronaut poop that they ejected them.

00:53:36.000 Awesome poop.

00:53:37.000 I'm serious, like frozen, you know, things they do.

00:53:39.000 You're like beamed by a frozen turd when you're out on a spacewalk.

00:53:42.000 It can happen.

00:53:43.000 I've had a semi-frozen turd beamed at me and it still hurt.

00:53:49.000 I can't believe that.

00:53:50.000 I can't believe there's hundreds of thousands of pieces of junk up there.

00:53:53.000 That's insane.

00:53:55.000 Yeah, no one's going to clean that either.

00:53:56.000 It's not like you can put a net up there and scoop it all up.

00:54:00.000 Guess where most of it came from?

00:54:01.000 Military exercises.

00:54:03.000 Let's blow up a satellite in orbit and see what happens.

00:54:06.000 Like, oh, it scatters crap all over orbit.

00:54:08.000 Yeah, it's just an environmental problem, just like we have on our oceans or somewhere else.

00:54:12.000 The military is so crazy that in the 60s when they first started thinking about going to the moon, they did a thing called Operation Starfish Prime, where they shot a nuclear bomb up into the atmosphere and blew it up.

00:54:28.000 They blew it up in the radiation belt.

00:54:30.000 Let's see what happened.

00:54:31.000 What happened there?

00:54:33.000 It's fucking crazy.

00:54:35.000 There's nobody there to go, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing?

00:54:38.000 Don't you fucking do it to see what happens.

00:54:40.000 Are you guys crazy?

00:54:42.000 What's the benefit of shooting a nuclear bomb into space?

00:54:45.000 You crazy fucks?

00:54:47.000 They've gone nuts on that stuff.

00:54:48.000 It's interesting.

00:54:49.000 My grandparents met on the Manhattan Project in Chicago before Los Alamos.

00:54:53.000 My grandmother's a master's degree in nuclear engineering and won a lifetime achievement reward for nuclear engineering, like one of two women ever. 0.66

00:55:00.000 So I grew up in a nuclear family like this, but even they're like, could we stop blowing those things up everywhere? 0.94

00:55:04.000 They're kind of useful in a war, but maybe blowing up a few hundred of them around the planet isn't a good idea.

00:55:09.000 have you ever seen the...

00:55:10.000 There's an animated GIF file, or maybe it's a video that shows all of the...

00:55:17.000 On the globe, it shows you a map of the world and it shows all of the nuclear explosions in their correct order that have taken place, all the tests, and it's like, boom.

00:55:26.000 Boom.

00:55:28.000 Boom, boom, boom.

00:55:30.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

00:55:34.000 Wow.

00:55:35.000 That would be awesome.

00:55:36.000 You should link to that.

00:55:37.000 I want to see if you can see that.

00:55:37.000 Pull that up, bro.

00:55:38.000 See if you want to video of all of the nuclear explosions.

00:55:43.000 You'll find it.

00:55:44.000 But I've seen it.

00:55:45.000 It's fast.

00:55:46.000 There's been like more than 100.

00:55:47.000 Yeah.

00:55:48.000 Yeah.

00:55:48.000 100 nuclear explosions.

00:55:49.000 I did not know that.

00:55:50.000 It's really scary.

00:55:51.000 And some of the things that happen there, we have a kind of a rise in thyroid cancer.

00:55:55.000 And gee, you get radioactive iodine out there.

00:55:58.000 And these have an environmental impact.

00:56:00.000 And some of the stuff we don't even understand, like low-frequency vibrations on the Earth's crust from those things.

00:56:07.000 There's biological effects from the reverberation of the Earth's crust.

00:56:11.000 You heard of the Schumann residents?

00:56:13.000 When thunder strikes, you get this reflection between the ionosphere and the Earth's crust, and it creates basically a round of 10 hertz.

00:56:21.000 I forget the exact 9 point something hertz frequency.

00:56:24.000 And if we don't have this, we don't work very well as humans.

00:56:28.000 In fact, in the Russian space program, they actually figured out that they were not doing well at all.

00:56:32.000 They actually replicate this inside the spacecraft now.

00:56:35.000 They make a rumble, like a sound?

00:56:36.000 You don't hear it.

00:56:37.000 It's like an electrical thing.

00:56:38.000 It's a super low-frequency EMF.

00:56:41.000 So this EMF that's given out by thunder and lightning actually has a positive effect on human beings?

00:56:48.000 Yeah, it's like a timing signal.

00:56:49.000 If we don't get it, we don't do so well.

00:56:50.000 It's right in the alpha brainwave spectrum.

00:56:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:54.000 In fact, I have a Schumann wave resonance creation thing in my house.

00:56:58.000 Like, it's one of the things that lowers biological stress.

00:57:00.000 When you have a Schumann resonance that your low-level biological, like, electrical systems can sync to, it lowers the stress.

00:57:06.000 If you have Wi-Fi routers and things like that all over the place, your body tries to find a signal and it doesn't get one very well.

00:57:12.000 And when it doesn't get one very well, it just raises your cortisol levels.

00:57:16.000 Your body's trying to find a signal.

00:57:17.000 What do you mean by that?

00:57:18.000 So there's an electromagnetic signal on the earth.

00:57:22.000 And it sounds kind of goofy, to be honest, but one of the ways you can do this is with an earthing mat.

00:57:28.000 And I kind of went out on a limb and I started promoting these as like, this thing rocks.

00:57:33.000 And what this is, is a mat that's made out of electrically conductive fibers.

00:57:38.000 It's just silver woven into a sheet.

00:57:40.000 And you plug it into the round part of the electrical outlet at your house.

00:57:43.000 So just the grounding part, or you stick it into the earth, like drop it out the window on a wire and stick it into the ground.

00:57:48.000 You do this, and it normalizes your cortisol excretion at night.

00:57:52.000 Your sleep improves really dramatically.

00:57:54.000 Especially for jet lag.

00:57:56.000 I absolutely will not travel without my earthing mat because I don't get jet lag at all anymore.

00:58:01.000 Like it's just a non-issue.

00:58:03.000 What?

00:58:03.000 This is craziness.

00:58:04.000 Lance Armstrong uses this on the Tour de France in order to recover faster.

00:58:08.000 Like you recover from injuries faster when you're grounded.

00:58:10.000 And there's an electrical thing you can measure that's happening there.

00:58:13.000 There's two effects.

00:58:14.000 One is you build up a charge on your body and you can just pick this up with a meter.

00:58:18.000 We're walking around indoors.

00:58:20.000 We're wearing shoes, like rubber shoes all the time.

00:58:23.000 So we basically, just the air over our skin builds up a static charge.

00:58:27.000 When you get, you know, a spark, like in the desert, you touch the Most static electricity.

00:58:31.000 That's an extreme example of it.

00:58:33.000 But our bodies kind of work like big batteries.

00:58:36.000 Like we have different electrical fields and different electrical potentials inside the body.

00:58:40.000 So when you spend about 20 minutes walking in grass barefoot or laying on earthing mats, being on the beach, what you're doing is you're dropping the extra charge that's built up over time.

00:58:50.000 And when you do that, you heal faster.

00:58:52.000 You really do recover faster.

00:58:53.000 It's profoundly amazing how well it works.

00:58:57.000 There's cardiologists recommending this.

00:58:59.000 There's a whole book written about this.

00:59:01.000 I have heard about people lying in the grass, sleeping in the grass to help them heal.

00:59:06.000 I thought this was such BS, but like I used to fly to Cambridge, England every six weeks.

00:59:11.000 I was a vice president at a company based out there.

00:59:13.000 And I'd fly from the Bay Area out there.

00:59:16.000 And that's like the worst commute ever in terms of time zones.

00:59:18.000 Like you're flying east.

00:59:20.000 And I would go and I'd say, all right, in the morning when I land, I'm going to exercise to raise my body temperature.

00:59:24.000 And that's going to be how I hack my jet lag.

00:59:27.000 And one day I did yoga in the park because like the only day of the year it was not rainy in England.

00:59:34.000 And that time I had no jet lag.

00:59:36.000 I'm like, yes, my exercise works.

00:59:37.000 And the next time I do it in the hotel room, the same exact thing.

00:59:39.000 And I had horrible jet lag.

00:59:40.000 I'm like, what is it?

00:59:42.000 And I finally understood years later what had really been the variable that I didn't know to look for.

00:59:48.000 So this is one of the things, it's like a $70 little item and you try it and you just know it works.

00:59:53.000 I wish marijuana was legal to grow because I went to a grow room once and this dude had this, and he was illegal, it was a legal setup.

01:00:01.000 I go into this back room and he's got this room larger than this room and it's filled with these really happy cannabis plants and they have they've been taken care of with the perfect fertilizer and the perfect soil composition and there's misters that are going off constantly and they're really healthy and vibrant and you walk into that room and you feel them and it sounds like hippie bullshit but I wasn't even high.

01:00:28.000 I walked in that room stone cold sober and I was like whoa.

01:00:32.000 This is like they have a frequency.

01:00:35.000 It's an intangible thing that I sense.

01:00:37.000 I can feel it, but I wouldn't know how to describe what it's doing.

01:00:41.000 I do a lot of work at that level with the biohacking I talk about.

01:00:44.000 So you have this reptilian brain that's responsible for low-level systems in the body.

01:00:49.000 It's the same thing a salamander has.

01:00:51.000 And it senses stuff, but it does it so fast that you don't even know it happened.

01:00:55.000 Like if you put your hand on a hot stove, you'll pull your hand away before you know the stove was hot.

01:01:00.000 That's an example of this thing in action.

01:01:02.000 So what it does is it picks up all kinds of stuff from the environment, a lot of stuff we don't even understand yet.

01:01:08.000 But it does it and it matches patterns so fast that you might just get like a wisp of an intuition from it.

01:01:13.000 But what's going on there is like the animal part of you is totally picking up all these things.

01:01:19.000 And you can train yourself to basically be more sensitive to what it's telling you.

01:01:24.000 And you can train yourself and train it to behave better.

01:01:26.000 Because that reptilian brain is what gets us in a lot of trouble.

01:01:29.000 It's how you know when someone's upset at you.

01:01:32.000 You know when someone's upset at you, even if they're trying to pretend that they're not, you know there's something off.

01:01:36.000 They're giving you a certain feel.

01:01:38.000 Now I'm going to sound like a total hippie wacko, which I'm not.

01:01:42.000 Too late.

01:01:43.000 Darn.

01:01:43.000 So you're on this show.

01:01:45.000 Fair point.

01:01:46.000 I'll take that.

01:01:48.000 So I'm an advisor to this company called the Heart Math Institute.

01:01:51.000 And HeartMath makes a heart rate variability training device.

01:01:54.000 These guys are Silicon Valley geeks.

01:01:56.000 They spent 20 years looking at meditation and how you quantify meditation, like what's going on in the body.

01:02:02.000 And it turns out, by looking at the spacing between your heartbeats, you can totally change the way your brain works and the way your body works.

01:02:09.000 And in the course of their research, they went out and they did some really heavy-duty science.

01:02:13.000 And there's actually a magnetic field around your heart.

01:02:16.000 It's tipped at like a 12-degree angle this way.

01:02:18.000 It's shaped like a torus, like a donut.

01:02:19.000 And they know which direction the fields move on it and everything.

01:02:23.000 So it's the most electrically active part of your body is your heart.

01:02:26.000 And get this.

01:02:27.000 When a human walks into a stall with a horse before they touch the horse, the horse's heart rate variability will change to match the humans.

01:02:34.000 We have a field effect on the people around us.

01:02:37.000 And it's an electromagnetic field that's heart-based.

01:02:40.000 And we can measure it.

01:02:41.000 People get pissed off when they hear this and then they just think everything I say is crap.

01:02:44.000 It's not.

01:02:46.000 A, I know the scientists who are behind this.

01:02:48.000 And B, I'm a certified heart math executive coach.

01:02:51.000 Like I use this to take people who are super high performers, who are tweaking because of their stress, and to teach them to consciously basically use their prefrontal cortex, their human, most evolved part of the brain, to train and take control of the reptilian brain.

01:03:04.000 And when you do that, there's measurable changes in the spacing of your heartbeats, and there's a change in the field around your heart as well.

01:03:10.000 When you do that, that's what you're feeling there.

01:03:12.000 Someone's pissed off of you, they could not say a word, and you might not even see their face, but you just have a feeling.

01:03:18.000 My body's letting you know some shit might be going down.

01:03:20.000 I'm catching some bad smells.

01:03:22.000 In fact, one of my buddies is a special forces guy.

01:03:25.000 And he actually wasn't technically, he trained special forces guys.

01:03:28.000 He was a long-range patrol officer guy.

01:03:30.000 And he told me one day, he said, Dave, what we learned out in the field, he said, if you're in someone's sights, you can feel it.

01:03:36.000 He said, if someone's got a gun pointed at you, your body heats up.

01:03:40.000 Like, literally, how the heck could this be possible?

01:03:42.000 But the bottom line is we have all sorts of weird senses.

01:03:45.000 We also know if we hook you up, Joe, to like weird galvanic skin response sensors, and then you're sitting there, if someone's staring at you, we'll be able to measure your body responding to the stare even if they're staring at your back.

01:03:57.000 Like there's all kinds of crazy stuff in our bodies we haven't even really explored yet.

01:04:00.000 Do you think those are evolving senses or do you think those are just like really sort of intangible senses that we haven't quite defined?

01:04:08.000 They're not evolving senses.

01:04:09.000 They're old senses.

01:04:10.000 Those were there long before.

01:04:13.000 What makes the frog move before the eagle dives for it?

01:04:17.000 It's those kind of senses.

01:04:18.000 It's very, very low-level survival oriented senses.

01:04:24.000 You sure they're not evolving?

01:04:25.000 They're not getting better maybe?

01:04:26.000 I think what's happening is that our ability to access them from our prefrontal cortex is evolving.

01:04:31.000 And that's one of the things I spend a lot of my own time on.

01:04:33.000 I spent $20,000 and seven days hooked up to an EEG machine to learn how to do like advanced Zen meditation that takes 40 years.

01:04:41.000 I did in seven days.

01:04:43.000 And what you're really doing there is you're just learning how to have the prefrontal cortex, your human brain, talk to the low-level systems.

01:04:48.000 And when you do that, you can unleash creativity and intelligence and intuition in ways that most people aren't that familiar with.

01:04:56.000 What do you think is going on when you see people that are kids usually that are autistic, but that are super genius in one area?

01:05:03.000 Like there was one kid that was making, he was composing a symphony every nine days or something, something like that.

01:05:10.000 And It was really good music.

01:05:12.000 And then there's a kid who can look out a window and out of an airplane and draw the entire skyline as he sees it perfectly.

01:05:18.000 Like, do you think that that's evolving possibilities in the brain that are just starting to sort of pop up?

01:05:25.000 I don't.

01:05:25.000 You don't.

01:05:26.000 I had all the symptoms of Asperger's syndrome until I was in my mid-20s, like obsessive, compulsive disorder, oppositional, defiant disorder.

01:05:26.000 And I say that.

01:05:33.000 I didn't know anyone's name.

01:05:35.000 Like, I wouldn't make eye contact, all that kind of stuff.

01:05:37.000 I stuttered a little bit.

01:05:39.000 And I've done a lot of work with the autism community.

01:05:42.000 In fact, one of my goals in this book that I'm writing, the Better Baby book that comes out in January, is to have less kids with autism because you can handle neurological inflammation even in the womb.

01:05:52.000 So there's less likelihood of it happening later.

01:05:54.000 What we can do, though, is we can take a fully functioning, neurologically functioning adult, and we can hit them with really strong magnets in their head, and we can turn on autistic skills in non-autistic people.

01:06:05.000 So you can suddenly draw the most amazing thing ever when you have a 10-ton magnet focused on your head.

01:06:09.000 Whoa.

01:06:10.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:11.000 So this is some serious brain hacking stuff.

01:06:12.000 So it's like that fucking dude from the X-Bed and that Magneto dude.

01:06:16.000 I hadn't thought of it like that yet.

01:06:18.000 That's exactly what it is.

01:06:19.000 He became a goddamn genius with that magnet helmet on, remember?

01:06:22.000 Yeah, and they're doing this like in neuroscience laboratories right now.

01:06:26.000 Like they have this really focused thing that shines a magnet and it activates a specific part of your brain.

01:06:31.000 You can even do it to some extent with the stuff I have in my backpack, like the cerebroelectrical stimulation or TDCS.

01:06:37.000 You can run a current through part of your brain and turn it on.

01:06:40.000 It wasn't turned on before, and as long as there's electricity there, it's turned on.

01:06:43.000 So I think what's going on here is the wiring and autistic kids, they have chronic neurological inflammation that's environmentally mediated, and they usually have problems with the biology in their gut, too.

01:06:53.000 So what we can do, though, is we can learn, okay, these autistic kids have these skills.

01:06:57.000 All of us have these skills too.

01:06:58.000 They're just not trained and they're not turned on.

01:07:00.000 If you use technology, you can train your brain to do crazy stuff in very short periods of time.

01:07:05.000 So you can gain these kind of powers without having to give up the ability to socialize, for instance.

01:07:10.000 But a kid looking out a window and being able to capture the exact skyline and then put that to paper.

01:07:19.000 I don't even think he's a classically trained artist.

01:07:21.000 I think he just does it.

01:07:23.000 That is a really special skill.

01:07:25.000 It's a special skill, but I'll bet you that if we took six months and we used those magnets and things like that, we can explore how his brain works and teach your brain to do the same thing.

01:07:34.000 There's a lot of things out there that are way teachable that you wouldn't think are.

01:07:38.000 It's all just about interfacing with the brain.

01:07:40.000 The way we do it now is really inefficient.

01:07:42.000 If I have a gigantic magnet on my head, will I play better pool?

01:07:46.000 I think it depends on how much the magnet weighs, probably.

01:07:49.000 Well, I mean, as far as the frequency, it needs something.

01:07:52.000 It's not something you'd wear.

01:07:53.000 It's not something you'd wear.

01:07:54.000 I mean, these little bracelets.

01:07:56.000 When I say 10 tons, I mean like this is a 10-ton thing that changes it.

01:07:59.000 And there's various articles from neuroscientists.

01:08:02.000 They went in, they did the test, and they drew the most amazing artwork.

01:08:05.000 Or in the military, they do other things like that, more with the electricity.

01:08:09.000 But they'll say, oh, look, this person got a stimulation here, and they went through the shooting stimulation, and they killed everyone completely, whereas the last time they had no skills at all.

01:08:16.000 Really?

01:08:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:17.000 So your brain is such an amazing toy.

01:08:19.000 You can completely change it.

01:08:21.000 But here's the thing.

01:08:22.000 You want to maximize this performance?

01:08:24.000 You need to myelinate the nerves in your brain.

01:08:27.000 Myelination makes a nerve carry electrical signals 3,000 times faster than a non-myelinated nerve.

01:08:33.000 So first you have to form the synapse, which is called synaptogenesis, and you do that through relatively short amounts of practice.

01:08:38.000 You know, the first time you learn Well, the first time you learned to balance on your bike, right?

01:08:42.000 Like you've learned how to do it.

01:08:43.000 It doesn't take long.

01:08:45.000 From then on, though, to get it so it's just automatic, that's what repetition does.

01:08:49.000 And you've had a lot of pro sports guys in here.

01:08:51.000 They talk about 10,000 times and repetition.

01:08:53.000 The reason 10,000 times works is because you're myelinating.

01:08:55.000 But here's the thing, what's myelin made out of?

01:08:57.000 Fat, cholesterol, choline.

01:09:00.000 So what you need to do is you need to be cranking up on those kinds of foods.

01:09:03.000 And if you're going to be on a low fat or a vegan diet that doesn't have any of the saturated fats and is low in choline, you're probably going to have a harder time myelinating.

01:09:12.000 It's going to be harder for your brain to do what it was meant to do.

01:09:14.000 So synaptically speaking, it's harder to learn things.

01:09:17.000 Yep.

01:09:18.000 If you don't have enough fat, you've got to have fat for your brain to function.

01:09:21.000 I mean, your brain's made out of fat.

01:09:22.000 That's not the wrong fat.

01:09:24.000 You don't want fat from a stupid cow that ate corn. 1.00

01:09:26.000 No, you don't.

01:09:27.000 They're all stupid.

01:09:28.000 Yeah, and you don't want fat that's been impregnated with toxins.

01:09:30.000 So you've got to have grass-fed meat, and you've got to have it from some sort of a reputable source where you know that they're not feeding any antibiotics.

01:09:39.000 How do you put the magnets on the cows, Joe?

01:09:41.000 That's an awesome idea.

01:09:42.000 It just blew my fucking mind.

01:09:44.000 Woo! 0.99

01:09:46.000 Magnet-fed beef.

01:09:47.000 And the cows start walking up to the fence going, I think we can get through if we just knock one of these fucking things over.

01:09:52.000 The magneto helmet with the horns on it.

01:09:55.000 Can you imagine if cows started figuring out they could just fuck us up? 0.99

01:09:59.000 That corn just grows there.

01:10:00.000 Just let it grow.

01:10:01.000 It'll grow by itself.

01:10:02.000 I found that video if you wanted to watch the nuclear explosion.

01:10:05.000 Yes, definitely.

01:10:06.000 This is crazy.

01:10:11.000 Nuts.

01:10:12.000 This is, by the way, just America.

01:10:13.000 There's one of the world.

01:10:14.000 Oh, this is the whole world.

01:10:16.000 Oh, here it goes.

01:10:18.000 That would be like Nagasaki, Hiroshima. 0.90

01:10:20.000 Yeah.

01:10:23.000 This is so creepy.

01:10:24.000 We're so nuts.

01:10:27.000 You want to hear a crazy statistic that we figured out on the podcast?

01:10:30.000 From the invention of the airplane to someone using it to drop a nuclear bomb on someone took less than 50 years.

01:10:36.000 That's pretty impressive.

01:10:37.000 That's insane.

01:10:38.000 Wow.

01:10:39.000 Think about that as like a world-changing.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, it makes Moore's Law look kind of sissy.

01:10:44.000 That's pretty amazing, you know?

01:10:46.000 50 years later, they're dropping nuclear bombs out of them.

01:10:52.000 Russia starts jacking some off here.

01:10:54.000 Boom, son.

01:10:55.000 There we go.

01:10:56.000 It starts just getting crazier and crazier after this, right?

01:10:59.000 Now we're up to eight from America, one from Russia.

01:11:04.000 Brian, what are you doing?

01:11:06.000 That is so not the sound of the YouTube.

01:11:11.000 How long is this video?

01:11:12.000 I don't know.

01:11:13.000 Because for the folks at home, this is 10 minutes long.

01:11:16.000 It's about 15 minutes of explosions, but a lot of them are in, There we go.

01:11:21.000 Look at all those ones in Nevada.

01:11:23.000 It just goes crazy.

01:11:24.000 Nevada just lights up like a Christmas tree.

01:11:26.000 They're all in Nevada.

01:11:27.000 Look.

01:11:27.000 Wow.

01:11:27.000 Look at that.

01:11:28.000 That's all Nevada.

01:11:30.000 Britain, how dare you, you sons of bitches. 1.00

01:11:33.000 In the ocean, yeah, you cowards.

01:11:35.000 Dropping them in the ocean.

01:11:37.000 Look at Nevada! 1.00

01:11:38.000 Oh my god, that's so scary!

01:11:40.000 They're all Nevada. 0.72

01:11:41.000 That explains Nevada, doesn't it?

01:11:42.000 Fuck yeah, it does.

01:11:43.000 Las Vegas, right there.

01:11:44.000 It explains the reason why it's allowed to exist.

01:11:47.000 I mean, they do nuclear tests out there.

01:11:48.000 It explains the airport.

01:11:50.000 They also bury, they bury a lot of nuclear waste out there in Vegas, right?

01:11:55.000 Not in Vegas, but in look at Russia.

01:11:56.000 It's still going.

01:11:57.000 Oh, scary shit, man.

01:12:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:12:00.000 More Nevada.

01:12:01.000 Look at that.

01:12:02.000 And that's only 1955.

01:12:03.000 Dude, look at how many of them are going off in Nevada.

01:12:06.000 That is fucking bananas.

01:12:09.000 Compare that to the recent nuclear reactor leak in Japan.

01:12:15.000 This might be worse.

01:12:15.000 I don't know.

01:12:16.000 I don't know.

01:12:17.000 I think, I don't know which one lasts more.

01:12:21.000 That's pretty brutal.

01:12:22.000 But they also have shit buried out there, too.

01:12:25.000 They're storing nuclear waste out there.

01:12:27.000 Yeah.

01:12:28.000 Spent nuclear rods and all kinds of other shit that they think will be toxic till the end of time.

01:12:33.000 We're just so ridiculous.

01:12:34.000 It's just so weird that we would have something like that and just fucking start.

01:12:39.000 Look at this.

01:12:40.000 Wow.

01:12:41.000 This kind of sounds like music.

01:12:43.000 Look how many bombs have gone off.

01:12:45.000 300 bombs.

01:12:47.000 And we're still in the 1960.

01:12:48.000 Like, we haven't even gotten into the modern times.

01:12:50.000 It's 1959, and there's been 300 bombs.

01:12:53.000 Wow.

01:12:54.000 This is really hard to watch, man.

01:12:55.000 No kidding.

01:12:56.000 Total downer.

01:12:57.000 They were so stupid back then.

01:12:59.000 Do you have any Justin Bieber videos we could watch instead?

01:13:02.000 Yeah, I think we should show that, Brian.

01:13:06.000 Are you concerned about the toxic shit that's going to happen from Fukushima?

01:13:12.000 Is that going to affect people that live here on the West Coast?

01:13:14.000 Yeah, it is.

01:13:15.000 I mean, the plume, so to speak, is making its way over here now.

01:13:20.000 We're actually finding huge amounts of wreckage that are hitting the shore now.

01:13:20.000 What does that mean?

01:13:24.000 In fact, up where I live in British Columbia, it's a big thing.

01:13:27.000 They're finding motorcycles and hundred-ton cement docks that sort of wash up.

01:13:32.000 And they're like, how do I get rid of this?

01:13:34.000 Like, it's indestructible.

01:13:35.000 Oh, my God.

01:13:36.000 A cement fucking dock that was taken from Japan?

01:13:40.000 Yeah.

01:13:40.000 It broke free and it floated all the way over here and it's like on the beach.

01:13:44.000 What's amazing is that's a little baby tsunami.

01:13:47.000 That ain't shit compared to what could happen.

01:13:49.000 Oh yeah.

01:13:50.000 So that's happening, but they say that the stuff that's radioactive hasn't reached there yet.

01:13:54.000 So they're starting to have Geiger counters on the beach, like for the junk cleanup crews to see if they're finding the stuff.

01:14:01.000 So the question is, what's it going to do to fish out here?

01:14:04.000 I sure hope that my sockeye salmon is radioactive free.

01:14:07.000 And that said, I think taking some iodine is a good idea.

01:14:12.000 How does potassium iodine protect you?

01:14:15.000 Well, if the form of radioactivity that you're getting is radioactive iodine, it protects you from getting thyroid cancer years later.

01:14:22.000 The problem is that some of the radioactive stuff coming out of Fukushima may not be in an iodide form, so iodine may not do much for you.

01:14:27.000 There's some evidence that astaxanthin, which comes from krill, is pretty protective as well.

01:14:32.000 So that's probably a good thing to take.

01:14:34.000 So krill, like krill oil, should you take it in that form?

01:14:38.000 I prefer krill oil to fish oil.

01:14:39.000 I take krill oil.

01:14:40.000 And I put, and I shouldn't say I put, I buy a form that has astaxanthin in it, which naturally occurs in the krill.

01:14:47.000 It's the stuff that makes krill red.

01:14:48.000 It's just a really potent antioxidant that has a good effect on radioactive stuff.

01:14:53.000 This is a podcast that is going to test your writing shit down abilities, ladies and gentlemen.

01:14:58.000 This is a podcast we're going to have to go back.

01:15:00.000 I use Yak salt, by the way.

01:15:01.000 Yak salt's a lot better.

01:15:02.000 They don't make yak salt, you liar.

01:15:05.000 You're a fucking fibber.

01:15:06.000 How dare you?

01:15:08.000 Yeah, I got to get some.

01:15:09.000 I'm going to go right to Whole Foods, right from here, and get some fucking Siberian salt or Tibetan salt.

01:15:16.000 Either one's good.

01:15:17.000 It tastes pretty good.

01:15:19.000 I like taking friends who are not into health, and you're like, just try the salt.

01:15:21.000 And like, why do you carry a white violet powder over international borders with you?

01:15:25.000 Yeah, do you ever get tweaked on?

01:15:27.000 It's weird.

01:15:27.000 Never.

01:15:27.000 I mean, I have like my upgraded whey protein and collagen powder and like all kinds of stuff that, I mean, I should look like I'm carrying kilos of random stuff.

01:15:36.000 No one ever asks you to test it or they.

01:15:39.000 Never.

01:15:39.000 Actually, one time I've had my whey protein tested, more often they check my coffee because I don't drink hotel coffee.

01:15:44.000 It makes me feel crappy.

01:15:45.000 I just drink my coffee.

01:15:47.000 So I bring it with me, just like, you know, beans or ground up coffee.

01:15:50.000 Every time they go, oh, what's that?

01:15:51.000 And then they open it and it seems like they just want to smell it maybe.

01:15:53.000 I don't know.

01:15:54.000 Well, it is that also the people hide drugs in coffee.

01:15:56.000 Yeah, it's the easiest way.

01:15:58.000 Because it stops the dogs from smelling the marijuana.

01:16:02.000 You know what's funny?

01:16:04.000 Yeah, so we've heard.

01:16:06.000 I have a little canister I put in there that's got a designing that like absorbs moisture.

01:16:10.000 So I mean, it looks like I've got a little canister of drugs inside my coffee.

01:16:14.000 And twice I've had people say, what's in there?

01:16:15.000 And like, it keeps the coffee dry, and they just don't stop me.

01:16:19.000 And I fly like 100 times a year, like very often.

01:16:21.000 Wow.

01:16:22.000 I drink a Trenta of coffee every single day, and then I eat my first meal about 8 o'clock at night.

01:16:27.000 Nice.

01:16:28.000 Now, does it seem like I should put butter in my coffee now?

01:16:31.000 Is that what you would recommend?

01:16:32.000 I would try it.

01:16:33.000 I seriously would.

01:16:34.000 If you're eating nothing else.

01:16:36.000 Yeah, I would try just some fat, no sugar, no protein.

01:16:36.000 Yeah.

01:16:39.000 But when you do that, even just a tablespoon, you may find that you have a lot more energy throughout the day.

01:16:43.000 And Splenda is okay, like artificial sugar, or just stay away from it.

01:16:46.000 Just do Stevia if you're going to do anything.

01:16:48.000 Stevia.

01:16:48.000 Yeah, you can do xylitol too.

01:16:50.000 A little bit of xylitol won't raise your insulin enough to matter.

01:16:53.000 But if you do a lot of xylitol and you're not used to it, you'll get the runs.

01:16:56.000 Tate made the bulletproof coffee with Stevia, and it was fucking delicious.

01:16:59.000 Delicious.

01:17:00.000 I was addicted to it.

01:17:00.000 It's really good.

01:17:01.000 It's really good.

01:17:02.000 But the problem is, you're a lazy bitch, and you're not going to, let's be honest. 1.00

01:17:06.000 You're not going to fucking get some grass-fed butter and melt it and blend it.

01:17:10.000 You don't have to melt it, man.

01:17:11.000 Just like toss the butter in the blender, pour the hot coffee right in there and hit blend for 20, 30. 0.87

01:17:16.000 You need a slave. 0.98

01:17:16.000 I might do that. 0.98

01:17:17.000 Need to get one of you.

01:17:18.000 I'll get butter.

01:17:20.000 You'll get butter?

01:17:20.000 Yeah, you can get it sent to your house.

01:17:22.000 Coconut oil, too.

01:17:22.000 You know, you know, you could get groceries now just delivered to your house.

01:17:25.000 It's amazing.

01:17:26.000 And it's not that much money.

01:17:27.000 Like, you just go online and pick out what you want, and then it's just like, all right, we'll see you in an hour, like a pizza.

01:17:33.000 That's pretty sweet.

01:17:34.000 Yeah.

01:17:34.000 Wow, that's amazing.

01:17:35.000 Yeah.

01:17:35.000 I didn't know that.

01:17:36.000 And plus butter keeps forever.

01:17:37.000 You can buy like 20 sticks of it and toss it in the freezer and you'll have butter coming out your eyes.

01:17:42.000 So you want to make sure when you go to like organically raised beef is not good enough.

01:17:48.000 It has to be grass-fed, organically raised.

01:17:51.000 You can take organic corn, organic soy, and organic Twinkies and feed them to an organic cow and still sell those organic meat.

01:17:57.000 Like the standards are pretty low.

01:17:59.000 Twinkies can be organic?

01:18:00.000 If they make one, you can feed it to an organic cow, and it's still organic.

01:18:03.000 There's no standards for what the cows eat.

01:18:05.000 It's just whether or not what they ate was sprayed.

01:18:07.000 Oh, I see.

01:18:08.000 Okay.

01:18:09.000 So, for a lot of folks, it's kind of difficult to find grass-fed meat in your area, isn't it?

01:18:14.000 Like a lot of traditional supermarkets.

01:18:16.000 It is if you're in the middle of nowhere.

01:18:18.000 But here's the thing: like, FedEx and UPS deliver everywhere.

01:18:22.000 It's cheaper to buy grass-fed meat online than it is to buy a decent cut of meat in your grocery store.

01:18:27.000 Like, if you're going to buy grass-fed hamburger from some of the best places on earth, like I've tested different places on my site, like I have a whole series about grass-fed beef, you can get it for five bucks a pound.

01:18:38.000 Like, for grass-fed, perfectly treated animals.

01:18:42.000 Wow.

01:18:43.000 That's fucking really good.

01:18:44.000 Yeah.

01:18:45.000 And so, like, even if you're on a budget, like, okay, eat a lot of eggs because they're cheap.

01:18:48.000 And, you know, supplement with grass-fed beef.

01:18:51.000 Eat a half a pound a day.

01:18:52.000 It's going to cost you $2.50.

01:18:54.000 Do you ever buy just fat?

01:18:55.000 Do you say like, send me some fat?

01:18:57.000 I've bought beef tallow.

01:18:59.000 Yeah.

01:19:00.000 And beef tallow is just rendered beef fat.

01:19:02.000 The problem is that the rendering process is really finicky.

01:19:05.000 Plus, finicky.

01:19:07.000 Well, if you're going to render fat, you need to have enough water in it in order to render it so it doesn't oxidize.

01:19:12.000 One of the problems, especially in the paleo community, it drives me nuts.

01:19:15.000 People are like, oh, bacon.

01:19:16.000 Like, okay, I love my bacon.

01:19:17.000 I'm a bacon snob.

01:19:19.000 Like, I make my own bacon.

01:19:20.000 But what you've got to do, though, is not overcook the oils.

01:19:24.000 If it's spitting all over the place and there's smoke coming off the pan and your bacon's all crispy, you've oxidized the fat.

01:19:29.000 And one of the things on the bulletproof diet I'm really focused on is like, how do I get inflammation down?

01:19:34.000 So if you fry the crap out of your food, then what you're getting is inflammatory oils, even if they came from a good cow.

01:19:40.000 You're also getting delicious bacon.

01:19:43.000 That's a problem.

01:19:44.000 You're getting delicious bacon, but here's the thing.

01:19:45.000 You put your stove on like three or four and you cook the bacon for longer.

01:19:48.000 All the fat melts out of the bacon.

01:19:50.000 The bacon is not going to get all super crispy.

01:19:52.000 It's like a chewy bacon, right?

01:19:54.000 It's a little chewier, but it's not like bad chewy, like uncooked bacon.

01:19:58.000 Still awesome.

01:19:59.000 I like chewy bacon, too.

01:20:00.000 But I do like that fucked up crispy bacon.

01:20:03.000 It's like chick bacon.

01:20:04.000 Totally.

01:20:05.000 It's like we have like fried mozzarella too, but you got to choose where you go on the spectrum.

01:20:09.000 What is it about fried things that's so horrible for you?

01:20:12.000 What does it do to your body?

01:20:13.000 It's mostly the damaged fats.

01:20:14.000 They come in.

01:20:15.000 Your body's like, what do I do with this fat?

01:20:17.000 Just can't process it because it's overcooked?

01:20:19.000 Yeah, it's like, how do I detoxify this?

01:20:21.000 So it's basically spitting out free radicals, and then you try and build cell walls and hormones out of this fat, and your body's like, how do I do that?

01:20:28.000 I don't have the raw ingredients.

01:20:29.000 Why is it so fucking delicious?

01:20:31.000 That I would love to know.

01:20:33.000 I think what happens there.

01:20:35.000 For real, right?

01:20:36.000 Like Kentucky Fried Chicken.

01:20:37.000 God damn it.

01:20:38.000 Well, that shit's good.

01:20:39.000 That's MSG and gluten and stuff.

01:20:40.000 Whatever it is.

01:20:41.000 I like it.

01:20:42.000 Is it really MSG and gluten?

01:20:44.000 Yeah, Goddard.

01:20:45.000 MSG is in like everything.

01:20:46.000 You know what?

01:20:47.000 It's goddamn wonderful.

01:20:49.000 Don't change the thing, Kentucky Fried Chicken.

01:20:53.000 We won't even talk about MSG and obesity after that.

01:20:55.000 Yeah.

01:20:57.000 Let's talk about how to think about food in general, whether it's vegan or not.

01:21:00.000 But please explain, though, what it does.

01:21:03.000 So when your body takes in just Kentucky Fried Chicken or anything that's something with hydrogenated fried oil.

01:21:10.000 Fried French fries and chips.

01:21:12.000 So we don't make healthy cell walls or hormones or anything else in our body made out of fat.

01:21:16.000 We don't even burn hydrogenated fat very well for fuel.

01:21:20.000 So basically the liver has to detoxify it.

01:21:22.000 So it goes to the liver.

01:21:23.000 The liver's like, oh God, what do I do with this stuff?

01:21:25.000 So it starts using up the glutathione in your liver, which is the main detoxing enzyme.

01:21:29.000 It starts trying to figure out how to break down these oils.

01:21:32.000 Like we're designed to take basically a raw animal in and process it and to break all those fats down and to reassemble them into our body.

01:21:40.000 We're not meant to take those things in.

01:21:42.000 So what you get is actually a big rush of white blood cells when you eat like heavily cooked meat and the oxidized fried fats.

01:21:49.000 And it actually looks like an immune response.

01:21:51.000 And your body's like, okay, I got to do something about this.

01:21:54.000 So it does what it can to build healthy cell walls.

01:21:56.000 But you get hungry after you eat fried food.

01:21:58.000 Have you ever noticed that?

01:21:59.000 Like you feel full for a while and afterwards like I want like sugar or something.

01:22:02.000 The craving that you want for sugar there either comes from the MSG or it comes from your liver.

01:22:07.000 It's like, could I have some more fuel to use to oxidize this stuff so I can excrete it now instead of building it in?

01:22:12.000 Wow.

01:22:13.000 I never noticed that.

01:22:14.000 I usually feel like such a fat loser.

01:22:16.000 Oh yes.

01:22:16.000 You don't get like hungry.

01:22:17.000 Like your next meal, you're like, like random cravings.

01:22:19.000 Okay.

01:22:21.000 Just pound some more chicken.

01:22:22.000 Kentucky fried chicken.

01:22:23.000 But I do like it.

01:22:23.000 Yeah.

01:22:24.000 Like, you know, when I like it, I like it like cold with hot sauce.

01:22:29.000 Like I'm watching stupid, something stupid on TV.

01:22:32.000 It's a good snack, Kentucky fried chicken.

01:22:35.000 You know, the stuff tastes good.

01:22:36.000 I don't eat that stuff anymore.

01:22:38.000 I'm a delicate flour, I guess, because I weigh 300 pounds.

01:22:40.000 I just feel like crap when I eat it now.

01:22:41.000 Yeah, I feel like crap when I eat it too, but I don't feel like crap while I'm eating it.

01:22:45.000 That's the problem.

01:22:46.000 That's a fact.

01:22:46.000 While I'm eating it, I'm loving it.

01:22:48.000 I'm loving the crispy outside mixed with the hot sauce.

01:22:53.000 I'm loving it.

01:22:54.000 So if they had Kentucky fried kale, would you try that?

01:22:56.000 I eat kale all the time.

01:22:58.000 I mean, I would do.

01:22:58.000 I eat kale chips.

01:22:59.000 I buy a lot of kale chips.

01:23:01.000 I've been eating those lately for snacks.

01:23:02.000 But I don't know what they're making their cheese out of, you know, because it's some weird vegan.

01:23:06.000 It's usually nutritional yeast, which is, I don't even want to talk about what that does to your health.

01:23:11.000 Yeah, it's bad.

01:23:12.000 God damn it.

01:23:13.000 So fucking kale chips are bad?

01:23:15.000 Cheesy kale chips?

01:23:16.000 Kale chips don't have to be bad.

01:23:17.000 It's just what they use to make them cheesy.

01:23:19.000 Those motherfuckers, so cheesy kale chips are bad. 1.00

01:23:21.000 If they're using vinegar to make the cheesy flavor, they're fine, but most of the time they use nutritional yeast.

01:23:25.000 And they, dude, I could, I have so many studies about that.

01:23:28.000 That's so ridiculous.

01:23:29.000 How come I knew they tasted too fucking good?

01:23:32.000 I knew it while I was up, man.

01:23:32.000 Yeah.

01:23:33.000 These cheesy kale chips are wonderful.

01:23:36.000 Why do you think they're so addictive?

01:23:37.000 You're just like, ah.

01:23:38.000 You fucking...

01:23:42.000 How dare you?

01:23:43.000 How dare you get me to eat your shit that's bad for you, but yet delicious?

01:23:47.000 There's going to be a huge storm on Twitter about people saying nutritional yeast has B vitamins.

01:23:50.000 And I'm like, yeah.

01:23:51.000 And look at the, just go to PubMed and Google Cancer and nutritional yeast and see what you find.

01:23:56.000 So the cheese is not a cheese.

01:23:58.000 It's actually a clump of organisms.

01:24:00.000 That's what the yeast is?

01:24:01.000 Yep.

01:24:02.000 It's like baker's and brewer's yeast, yeah.

01:24:04.000 Wow.

01:24:05.000 And then how they make it like a cheese?

01:24:06.000 They just.

01:24:07.000 It actually kind of has a cheesy flavor on its own.

01:24:09.000 So they take that and they mix it with some other, usually like a nut, like a ricotta, like a vegan ricotta thing.

01:24:14.000 I mean, I've been like a, I still eat a lot of like vegan dishes just under the weird soy and crap.

01:24:19.000 But if it's made out of raw vegetables chopped up finely with enough good fat in them, like avocados, that's some of the healthier food out there.

01:24:25.000 Right?

01:24:26.000 So I'm a pretty good in the kitchen, like with raw food.

01:24:29.000 And the problem is, you add nutritional yeast to it, it makes it inflammatory.

01:24:33.000 It's just not very good for you.

01:24:34.000 So, that's just those kale chips.

01:24:36.000 You can get the regular kale chips, but that aren't quite as goddamn delicious.

01:24:39.000 I'm sorry, Joe.

01:24:40.000 Motherfuckers, I knew.

01:24:42.000 I knew it couldn't have possibly been fine.

01:24:43.000 It'd be fine for you.

01:24:44.000 If you die from cheesy kale chips, you're probably not.

01:24:48.000 He's not concentrating on dying, Brian.

01:24:50.000 He's concentrating on maximizing your potential.

01:24:53.000 That's why I think this is so funny.

01:24:54.000 Here's the spectrum.

01:24:54.000 Like, okay, if you ate cheesy kale chips every day for the rest of your life, compared to potato chips, you fucking rocked it.

01:25:00.000 Okay.

01:25:01.000 That's why everything on the bulletproof diet is a spectrum.

01:25:03.000 It's like, this is better than this, but like, this is a lot better than this.

01:25:06.000 So you don't have to be perfect.

01:25:08.000 If you want to identify a goalpost for perfection, just kind of move in that direction, you'll be way better off.

01:25:14.000 And most people fail in their diets because they feel like, oh, I did it wrong.

01:25:17.000 Now I lose.

01:25:18.000 I'm like, you didn't do it wrong.

01:25:19.000 You could have done it a lot worse.

01:25:20.000 You could have done it better.

01:25:21.000 But you're somewhere in the middle.

01:25:22.000 And the truth of the matter is I'm always in the middle too.

01:25:25.000 Like, okay, I had a grass-fed cow, but was it slaughtered by an ordained minister?

01:25:30.000 Hell if I know.

01:25:31.000 But there's probably some way of making it slightly more perfect.

01:25:33.000 Was it massaged every day?

01:25:35.000 I wouldn't want a minister to kill my cow.

01:25:37.000 I don't know if I want my cow dummy. 1.00

01:25:38.000 I actually tend to tend to you.

01:25:41.000 I don't know if I want my cow blessed by bless it before I eat it.

01:25:45.000 But there has to be some bizarre thing you could do that's better.

01:25:48.000 Then again, if someone really believed in the blessing, maybe they would impart some sort of an energy into the thing.

01:25:53.000 That sounds ridiculous, but what we were talking about before, about people literally having some sort of an environmental effect, some sort of an effect on all the people around them.

01:26:02.000 You don't want some asshole killing your cow. 1.00

01:26:04.000 I'll tell you flat out, I do not want a cow that was tortured before it was killed.

01:26:08.000 It changes the hormones.

01:26:09.000 I think it changes the taste.

01:26:10.000 And there's an energy thing there.

01:26:11.000 I mean, call me a psychohippie or whatever, but I've done a lot of intuitive training of my heart and of other parts of my body with electronics.

01:26:20.000 And I don't know, there's something not right about some sadistic asshole torturing your cow, killing it, and then feeding it to you.

01:26:27.000 On its face, it's wrong.

01:26:28.000 Well, it is.

01:26:29.000 And have you ever seen the way they do the kosher cows? 0.95

01:26:31.000 Oh, it's brutal with those machines.

01:26:33.000 It's crazy.

01:26:34.000 Well, it's supposed to be done by a rabbi. 0.93

01:26:36.000 It's supposed to be done by a rabbi. 0.84

01:26:37.000 A rabbi's supposed to slice the neck of the cow, but you're supposed to do it that way. 1.00

01:26:41.000 That's how you kill the cow. 1.00

01:26:42.000 You slice its neck.

01:26:43.000 It takes a while for him to die, and it's not fucking pretty.

01:26:45.000 There's videos of them trying to get up and falling down, trying to get up.

01:26:48.000 You should see the kosher machines.

01:26:50.000 They do have kosher machines.

01:26:50.000 Oh, they do now.

01:26:51.000 Yeah, as long as it's it?

01:26:53.000 As long as it's been blessed, like it's approved for kosher, but it's even worse because it's like the cows go in and they just like rip their throat out with like a rod.

01:27:01.000 And it's one of the things where people think that, oh, you know, Dave's the opposite of a vegan.

01:27:05.000 I'm like, no, I care a lot about the quality of the animals I eat and the quality of the food I eat, but I also care about the quality of my life and what I'm going to do with it.

01:27:12.000 And if I'm slowing myself down by eating inappropriate foods, there's also another thing we've got to talk about, talk about animal suffering.

01:27:19.000 I'm in Tibet, right?

01:27:20.000 I spent like a couple months, actually three months, walking around Asia, visiting monasteries and stuff.

01:27:25.000 And I went to this monastery, the vegan vegetarian diet for, actually I was vegan for like 10 days.

01:27:32.000 I'm farting like a machine the whole time.

01:27:34.000 And then afterwards, I go to another monastery in Lhasa.

01:27:37.000 And there's this giant yak-skin on the prayer pole in the middle of the monastery. 1.00

01:27:42.000 And so I asked the head llama guy, I said, okay, like, you're a hypocrite.

01:27:46.000 Like, you say no killing, and you've got a dead animal hanging on your prayer pole.

01:27:50.000 Like, what's the deal?

01:27:51.000 And he just looked at me and the way like Buddhist monks kind of do, he just kind of laughed and he said, oh, one death feeds everyone. 0.95

01:27:58.000 And then he walked away.

01:27:59.000 Like, that was his whole thing.

01:28:00.000 And I thought about that.

01:28:01.000 If I eat two pounds of grass-fed beef every day for a year, I kill 0.7 animals in the entire food chain.

01:28:09.000 If I'm vegan and I eat soy nuggets, every bowl of soy nuggets is killing hundreds of animals because the tractor goes through and cuts down the soy, the soy.

01:28:18.000 We're not even talking about what it did to the soil microbes, but it cuts down all the soy.

01:28:22.000 It chops up the bunnies and their cute little faces and the turtles and the grasshoppers and the worms and all the other stuff there.

01:28:28.000 And basically, you look at the number of animals killed to bring you a bowl of grain.

01:28:32.000 It's way in excess of what grass-fed beef does.

01:28:34.000 The vegan argument is, well, there is enough grass-fed beef for everyone.

01:28:37.000 I'm like, yeah, that's because people don't ask for it.

01:28:38.000 You ask for it.

01:28:39.000 We'll turn the golf courses into basically grass-fed beef manufacturing plants.

01:28:43.000 There's plenty of them out there to do that, by the way.

01:28:45.000 Like, there's people who've done the math.

01:28:46.000 But it would be a smaller cow. 0.99

01:28:49.000 You wouldn't have nearly as much fat.

01:28:50.000 And the taste is different.

01:28:51.000 Taste is different.

01:28:52.000 Mrs. Rogan doesn't like the grass-fed beef. 1.00

01:28:54.000 I try to cook the grass-fed beef.

01:28:56.000 She doesn't like the taste.

01:28:57.000 Can we just say this podcast is grass-fed now by how many turtles the grass-fed is in it?

01:29:02.000 Yeah, it just matters.

01:29:03.000 It's stamped.

01:29:04.000 I would eat a bowl of gravel if I could perform well on it.

01:29:06.000 Like, I have no dogma about this.

01:29:08.000 Like, I don't care.

01:29:09.000 Like, food for me is optimal fuel for human potential.

01:29:12.000 Not just delicious as well?

01:29:12.000 That's it?

01:29:14.000 I mean, I love the deliciousness.

01:29:15.000 I have a cookbook out, for God's sake.

01:29:16.000 Yeah.

01:29:16.000 Oh, do you?

01:29:17.000 It's called The Upgraded Chef.

01:29:18.000 It's like how do you cook stuff fast to produce the least toxin so you perform better on it?

01:29:22.000 Is this so fast?

01:29:24.000 Is this a long journey for you?

01:29:26.000 Yeah, for 15 years.

01:29:27.000 I mean, I spent a quarter million dollars upgrading myself, and I started tracking how I felt and how I was performing.

01:29:32.000 And was I gaining weight or losing weight?

01:29:35.000 And did my joints hurt and all this stuff?

01:29:37.000 And I came to this conclusion that you can't change just one variable and expect something to work.

01:29:42.000 You've got to change a lot of variables at once and then start adding things back in.

01:29:46.000 Because let's say you're allergic to just milk and wheat, which so many people are.

01:29:50.000 Oh, this week I'll eat no wheat, nothing changed.

01:29:52.000 This week I'll eat no dairy, nothing changed.

01:29:54.000 So you assume nothing happened.

01:29:55.000 The problem is there's many things that cause inflammation.

01:29:58.000 At its core, the bulletproof diet is about reducing inflammation.

01:30:01.000 And here's the secret.

01:30:03.000 When you look at a food, there's three ways of looking at it.

01:30:06.000 The first one is, does it have the right macronutrients?

01:30:09.000 It's like if I needed to eat some protein or I needed to eat some fat, is it in there?

01:30:14.000 But here's the funny thing people don't think about so much.

01:30:17.000 If we said, look, you need to get 200 grams of protein today, we generally say, yeah, yeah, that's good.

01:30:22.000 But wait a minute.

01:30:23.000 Okay, this little vial of protein is the active protein that's in black widow spider venom, and this is an egg.

01:30:29.000 Okay, how many grams of protein do you want to eat today?

01:30:32.000 The bottom line is different proteins do different things to your body.

01:30:35.000 So you got to pick the right protein in there.

01:30:37.000 And then the fats, do you want hydrogenated vegetable oil or do you want coconut oil?

01:30:41.000 They're totally different on what they do to your body.

01:30:44.000 So first you got to get those sorted out.

01:30:46.000 And then second way you look at your food is something called anti-nutrients.

01:30:49.000 And this is something that most modern nutritionists just don't pay attention to.

01:30:53.000 Paleo people know about some, but not others.

01:30:55.000 And what's going on there is food has a defense mechanism built in.

01:30:59.000 If you're a grain, Your job is to reproduce.

01:31:01.000 And that means you coat yourself in pesticide to keep the bugs from eating you so you can reproduce.

01:31:05.000 It's natural pesticide, it's called phytic acid, and it inhibits whatever eats you.

01:31:09.000 It inhibits their ability to absorb minerals from their food.

01:31:13.000 So, now, what would I do when I look at food?

01:31:15.000 Does it have the right macronutrients?

01:31:16.000 Does it have poison in it?

01:31:18.000 If so, then I don't want to eat it.

01:31:19.000 And finally, does it have a lot of other stuff like B vitamins and minerals and the other micronutrients?

01:31:24.000 You get guys like this Andy guy, the aggregate nutrient index guy at Whole Foods, Furman, who, by the way, thinks kale is basically next to God.

01:31:33.000 He puts liver like a very low number on there.

01:31:36.000 Yet, liver has a lot more nutrients in it than kale does.

01:31:40.000 The problem is he decided to divide by calories for reasons that I don't quite understand.

01:31:44.000 What's going on there is a focus on micronutrients, ignoring anti-nutrients, and ignoring the function of food as fuel.

01:31:51.000 And they're also doing that because they have a pro-animal sort of an agenda.

01:31:54.000 Oh, yeah, there's definitely an agenda behind that.

01:31:56.000 There's a lot of people, like I've had conversations with people who are vegans, and they'll tell you that it's only for health purposes.

01:32:02.000 And then I bring up fish oil.

01:32:03.000 And most of them, they don't take fish oil.

01:32:06.000 And I say, well, why?

01:32:07.000 If it's just for health reasons, fish oil has been shown to be very, very beneficial.

01:32:12.000 But it gets squirrely.

01:32:13.000 They start talking about eating flaxseeds and shit.

01:32:15.000 You know, if you're going to eat flax seeds, flaxseed oil oxidizes the second it sees air.

01:32:20.000 Like, it's incredibly unstable.

01:32:21.000 Even in Ayurvedic medicine, they tell you, you know, flaxseed oil is a drying oil.

01:32:25.000 And your body can convert that to the healthy omega-3s at a ratio of 40 to 1.

01:32:29.000 40 grams of flax oil, you get 1 gram of the good stuff, and you've got to dispose of the other 39 grams that cause inflammation in the body.

01:32:36.000 Yeah, that's why I don't recommend flax.

01:32:36.000 Whoa.

01:32:38.000 The effects between fish oil, it actually counteracts that and fights inflammation, which is why it's so great for grapplers.

01:32:45.000 Oh, it's huge.

01:32:46.000 Yeah.

01:32:47.000 Fish oil guys are always, and a lot of guys are into CrossFit as well, into heavy doses of fish oil.

01:32:54.000 Yeah, it's anti-inflammatory, right?

01:32:55.000 It's good stuff.

01:32:56.000 But I tell you, if you use krill, it's going to work better because krill has the same EP and DHA, but it's phosphorylated.

01:33:02.000 It's bound to phospholipids, which means your brain can use it directly.

01:33:05.000 Fish oil has got to be phosphorylated.

01:33:07.000 It means you need to get extra phosphatylserine or choline to do that in your diet.

01:33:11.000 So you have to take choline supplements if you take fish oil to get the optimal.

01:33:14.000 Or if you maybe just eat eggs?

01:33:16.000 Because eggs have choline?

01:33:17.000 Yeah.

01:33:17.000 Because here's the thing.

01:33:18.000 Some of the super strong choline supplements, there's no question they have a really beneficial effect in most people.

01:33:26.000 In some people, too much choline has a reverse effect.

01:33:29.000 And it's probably like maybe a third of people.

01:33:32.000 So this is one of those things where if you get it in your food, you're good.

01:33:35.000 And if the choline supplements make you feel really good, which they do for the vast majority of people, I'm a fan of choline supplements in general.

01:33:40.000 I recommend them on the blog.

01:33:42.000 You've got that ingredient in AlphaBrain.

01:33:46.000 And by the way, that's just a killer list of nootropic ingredients.

01:33:49.000 I fully approve that.

01:33:51.000 That's a solo-proof level supplement for sure.

01:33:53.000 Thank you.

01:33:53.000 Awesome.

01:33:54.000 And the thing is, though, if you're one of those choline-sensitive people, you might not want a ton of choline.

01:34:00.000 Like you want to limit yourself to a certain amount.

01:34:02.000 Yeah, we've had issues with that, with people getting really sensitive.

01:34:05.000 They get some people.

01:34:06.000 Like jaw tension and headaches.

01:34:07.000 Yeah.

01:34:07.000 And those are the people who are choline dominant.

01:34:07.000 Yeah.

01:34:09.000 But here's the kicker.

01:34:10.000 You get those people to take anoracetam, like the stuff I've got on my site.

01:34:13.000 Anoracetam uses up extra choline.

01:34:16.000 So that's an interesting way of using a smart drug.

01:34:18.000 And this is actually a drug, not a natural substance, but it's one that'll bring your choline levels down, which means you can benefit from the other stuff that's in alpha brain, but you also get this boost from the other type of nootropic.

01:34:30.000 How many different things do you take a day?

01:34:33.000 I take probably on an average day about 40 pills.

01:34:35.000 Wow.

01:34:37.000 See, I told you I'm not crazy.

01:34:40.000 No, here's the crazy number.

01:34:41.000 When I was really focused on getting my health all the way where I wanted it, before I was all the way where I am, I did 187 pills a day for several months.

01:34:49.000 Now, what about the actual capsule itself?

01:34:52.000 What are those made out?

01:34:53.000 Is that no big deal for your body, the process?

01:34:53.000 Gelatin?

01:34:55.000 You actually need gelatin.

01:34:56.000 Our diets are gelatin deficient right now.

01:34:58.000 Oh, really?

01:34:58.000 Yeah.

01:34:59.000 And we eat all the muscles in the animal, but in the old days, your mom would boil the chicken and eat all the cartilage and all that. 0.91

01:35:05.000 So I actually carry gelatin and collagen on the site because when people eat that stuff, their joints get healthier.

01:35:12.000 And there's another thing, this whole electrical part of the body is not well known, but you know all those acupuncture meridian points and things like that?

01:35:20.000 Well, electricity flows through your skin, not just in your nerves.

01:35:24.000 And you need collagen in your skin in order to bring the water into the skin so you can carry electricity efficiently.

01:35:30.000 So when you eat enough collagen in the form of gelatin, NOx blocks, whatever, I have grass-fed gelatin that I use.

01:35:36.000 Whoa.

01:35:37.000 But you do that, you actually, you function better on many levels, including on the inflammation level.

01:35:42.000 A lot of fighters are starting to take jello.

01:35:46.000 I noticed it in, they did this sort of Cribs thing with Minotaro Noguero, the guy who just fought recently in UFC this past weekend.

01:35:54.000 And they went to his house, he had a stack of jell-o.

01:35:56.000 It's like he said he had, this is make me feel good.

01:36:00.000 I mean, it works.

01:36:01.000 Even for sleep, sometimes it helps.

01:36:02.000 Jell-O.

01:36:03.000 The problem is, like, I mean, industrial jell-o is disgusting.

01:36:03.000 I did not know.

01:36:06.000 Like, you don't even want to know what's in there.

01:36:08.000 What is in there?

01:36:09.000 Like, they're taking hooves and snouts and all these, like, it's like the baloney of protein powder.

01:36:16.000 It's not good.

01:36:17.000 Well, I mean, it's better than no collagen.

01:36:20.000 I've used nox.

01:36:22.000 What's the best made of?

01:36:22.000 The best is made out of the skin of the animal.

01:36:24.000 The skin.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:25.000 So, like, that's the sort of stuff that I use typically.

01:36:29.000 In fact, like, next week I'll have a listing for the best kind of it.

01:36:36.000 I've been exploring collagen for years.

01:36:38.000 So you can take straight collagen, you can take straight gelatin, and it's just a question of basically how you want it to taste and how you want it to be absorbed into your food.

01:36:44.000 But the old days, we would make like soup from bones.

01:36:47.000 It's too much work.

01:36:48.000 So what you do now is you take a couple scoops of collagen powder and you just put it in your smoothie or put it in your soup and you've got all the benefits of bone broth with none of the trouble.

01:36:55.000 It's just too much work to make all that broth.

01:36:57.000 No, it's just a process.

01:36:59.000 They just take the leather.

01:37:01.000 They take the outside and turn it into...

01:37:07.000 And that breaks it down.

01:37:09.000 And it's kind of a useful food.

01:37:11.000 It's one of those things that we used to fight for 100 years ago because you had to get enough of it and it was one of the ways of using the whole animal.

01:37:18.000 And now we just toss it mostly.

01:37:20.000 So in your opinion, and with all those things that you've researched, what you've found is that you can't even just not even, like, eggs is not good enough.

01:37:28.000 Fish is not good enough.

01:37:29.000 Like, You need animals, you need mammals, you need cows and sheep.

01:37:34.000 At least some of the time, I absolutely believe that.

01:37:36.000 I also believe, let's face it, you kill a chicken, did one meal to kill that animal.

01:37:41.000 And chickens have the worst lives ever, unless they're like super-pastured, crazy, expensive chickens.

01:37:45.000 So, like, you want to see a tortured animal.

01:37:47.000 Modern chickens can't even stand up on their own because their breasts are so big. 1.00

01:37:50.000 Like, they're one of the most tweaked species.

01:37:52.000 Yeah, they're pretty tweaked.

01:37:54.000 It's pretty fucked up when you see one of those gigantic chicken farms and they're all stacked on top of each other.

01:38:00.000 And just crapping on each other.

01:38:02.000 I could never eat red meat.

01:38:02.000 So, I see these people.

01:38:03.000 I'm like, dude, one animal will feed two people basically for two years.

01:38:08.000 Yeah.

01:38:09.000 If they're eating normal amounts of it, that's less death.

01:38:11.000 Yeah, but it's a big death.

01:38:13.000 It's like nobody has a problem with killing ants.

01:38:15.000 People are not like making protests in front of stores that sell raid ant killing.

01:38:20.000 They don't give a fuck about ants because they're too small.

01:38:22.000 It's like we have a thing.

01:38:23.000 You could take an ant, like you find an ant on your counter, do it with your finger, and do that, and you just flick it on the ground like it went away.

01:38:29.000 You can't do that to a rat.

01:38:31.000 You can't hit a rat with a hammer and then just throw it on the floor.

01:38:33.000 Now you got to clean that thing up.

01:38:34.000 You can't do it with a snail.

01:38:35.000 Remember when I made that snail video and everyone got pissed off at me?

01:38:38.000 Yeah, you can't kill a snail.

01:38:40.000 Snail's big enough.

01:38:41.000 If you stomped on an ant, no one would have given a shit.

01:38:43.000 But you killed a snail, no, like this, son of a bitch.

01:38:46.000 I put a snail on a Listerine strip and went to the bottom of the city.

01:38:51.000 The thing about cows is good.

01:38:53.000 By the way, he's almost 40.

01:38:55.000 The thing about cows, though, is that they're big.

01:38:57.000 And like, you know, an ant's tiny, and it doesn't really bug us that you can buy poison for ants anywhere.

01:39:02.000 If you could sell cow poison at the store, people would freak out.

01:39:05.000 Because you can't just kill cows like that.

01:39:07.000 But you can't buy rat poison.

01:39:09.000 Yeah, the cunts.

01:39:10.000 They don't care about rats.

01:39:12.000 But then there's people who have rats for pets.

01:39:14.000 Like, man.

01:39:15.000 And there's a lot of people that actually lived off rats.

01:39:17.000 And what was it?

01:39:18.000 I forget Peru, I believe?

01:39:20.000 Where guinea pigs are like super common? 0.91

01:39:23.000 I've eaten a guinea pig.

01:39:24.000 What was it like?

01:39:26.000 I went down there to do ayahuasca with a shaman.

01:39:26.000 In Peru, yeah.

01:39:29.000 Wow, they have guinea pig food?

01:39:30.000 Yeah, it's native there.

01:39:32.000 They are, let me see the technical term for it, fucking disgusting.

01:39:36.000 There's like no meat on them, and they stuff them with like rice and vegetables.

01:39:39.000 They don't taste good?

01:39:40.000 There's like five bites of meat on a whole guinea pig, and it doesn't taste very good, the bites you can get, and the rest of it's just like bones and skin.

01:39:45.000 Like it was profoundly gross.

01:39:48.000 Those people are just trying to get by.

01:39:49.000 That's some tough times.

01:39:51.000 What I saw was this Anthony Bourdain show, and they went over this guy's house, and they had guinea pigs running around the kitchen, like constantly.

01:39:58.000 They were everywhere.

01:39:59.000 And they would just pick one up, take them over, snap, kill them, gut them, and start cooking them.

01:40:04.000 And all these other dumb fucks are just running around. 1.00

01:40:06.000 They're like their pets practically until they get killed.

01:40:09.000 But they have a constant, you say it's awful, but they have a constant supply of meat.

01:40:13.000 And your point of view from Burbank, you know, is very different than their point of view living in Peru.

01:40:19.000 They're too adorable, though.

01:40:20.000 Yeah, these houses don't even have windows, dude.

01:40:23.000 I used to have them as pets.

01:40:24.000 They are kind of cute, but if I was hungry, I'd eat one.

01:40:27.000 You have children and your children are hungry, you're going to eat the fuck out of some guinea pigs. 0.99

01:40:31.000 And they're everywhere, dude.

01:40:32.000 They have like 30 of them.

01:40:33.000 Have you had cat?

01:40:35.000 Not on purpose, but I've been to a lot of taco trucks, so I'm not sure.

01:40:38.000 Whoa, do you think taco trucks really sell?

01:40:40.000 Really?

01:40:42.000 Depends on where you are.

01:40:44.000 I have a theory.

01:40:44.000 Tell me if this theory makes any sense at all.

01:40:46.000 But I have a theory that things that are difficult to catch are good for you, like wild fish, wild game, things that run quick, like deer.

01:40:54.000 Deer are very good for you because they run fast.

01:40:57.000 They're trying to get the fuck away because they know they're delicious. 0.98

01:40:59.000 They know they're highly sought after.

01:41:01.000 And then things like cows that just kind of stand around, probably not as good.

01:41:05.000 Is there anything to that theory?

01:41:07.000 I don't buy it.

01:41:08.000 I don't buy it either.

01:41:09.000 Here's why.

01:41:10.000 The big humming dirt mark, right?

01:41:11.000 The things that can run really fast and sprint don't have enough fat on them.

01:41:14.000 Like when the Indians would kill a buffalo, like the first thing you eat is like that big fatty hump on the back. 1.00

01:41:19.000 And then solid fat.

01:41:22.000 Is that like for storing food for them?

01:41:24.000 Is that what it is?

01:41:25.000 In fact, if you take a real grass-fed buffalo, that fat is orange.

01:41:28.000 It's actually like almost like a salmon color.

01:41:30.000 And most of the buffalo you can buy, they finish on grain because no one wants to buy orange fat.

01:41:33.000 I'm like, man, give me a big old like two-pound hunk of orange fat.

01:41:37.000 Why can they most of it finishes on grain or all of it?

01:41:40.000 I mean, can you get it?

01:41:41.000 It finishes on?

01:41:42.000 I've asked a few butchers at really high-end markets about that.

01:41:45.000 And they're like, yeah, one of the guys said, you know, we tried it one time on orange.

01:41:49.000 We had to throw it out.

01:41:50.000 No one would buy it.

01:41:51.000 That's so ridiculous.

01:41:51.000 You probably ordered online just to get it 100% grass fat.

01:41:54.000 I need to get that.

01:41:55.000 I need to get that just to find out what it would taste like.

01:41:57.000 It's pretty delicious when you get real fat.

01:41:59.000 In fact, bison's good, man.

01:42:01.000 Even if you take just the fats in good quality butter versus crab butter, I've had vegetarian friends.

01:42:08.000 I'm like, come on over, let me make one of my soups for you.

01:42:10.000 And it's butter and I use the MCT oil.

01:42:14.000 In fact, next week I've got my bulletproof MCT oil on the shelves.

01:42:17.000 I'm super stoked on that.

01:42:18.000 What is it?

01:42:19.000 It's a six times stronger extract of coconut oil.

01:42:22.000 So it's two of the medium chains, the ones that are most responsible for losing weight and for cognitive function, where that's all that's in there and has no flavor.

01:42:30.000 So you can make mayonnaise out of it.

01:42:31.000 And how is that created?

01:42:32.000 They take coconut oil and process it somewhere?

01:42:34.000 It's centrifuged, yeah.

01:42:35.000 So we spin it and then we pull out just those ones.

01:42:37.000 And I have the only brand I've out there.

01:42:39.000 How does that work?

01:42:40.000 How does that centrifuge work?

01:42:41.000 So it's basically you just spin it really fast.

01:42:43.000 Same way they do like your blood tubes to separate out the plasma and the cells.

01:42:47.000 When you spin it, the different weights of fat line up.

01:42:50.000 So we pull out the two most precious ones right in the middle band there.

01:42:54.000 And then we take the rest of it and we give that to other people.

01:42:56.000 That is ridiculous.

01:42:58.000 And this is coming out right now?

01:43:00.000 It should be on the site right now.

01:43:01.000 You can pre-order it.

01:43:02.000 I just thebulletproof or bulletproofexec.com.

01:43:04.000 It's bulletproofexec.com.

01:43:06.000 Bulletproofexec.com.

01:43:07.000 And you have your whole story is up there of how you, so for folks that don't have the patience to go and listen to this podcast again, there's a fuckload of information on this site as well as not just the upgraded MCT oil, you've got upgraded coffee, everything's upgraded.

01:43:23.000 Upgraded Chef.

01:43:24.000 And here's what it means when it's upgraded.

01:43:26.000 Like, I'm looking at the whole process of making something and how do you make that process as good as it can be?

01:43:31.000 Like my background, I really am a computer hacker.

01:43:33.000 Like I have studied computer science.

01:43:35.000 I work in computer security.

01:43:37.000 I'm not actively a hacker like I'm an executive, but like I understand the mindset of changing a system to get the outcome you want.

01:43:44.000 It turns out like to make the coffee, the problem was actually how the beans get turned into green coffee.

01:43:48.000 That's where most of the problems happen.

01:43:50.000 So I went through, I learned all about all this stuff from multiple disciplines, pulled it all together, and said, what if I created this new process for making coffee that didn't have the toxins in it?

01:43:59.000 And you look at that, we're about done with a study where we're getting advice from Stanford University on the cognitive function of this coffee.

01:44:07.000 So we're comparing normal coffee versus this upgraded coffee to show what it does to your response time and your attention.

01:44:12.000 And we don't have enough results to be statistically significant yet.

01:44:15.000 We're still recruiting people.

01:44:17.000 The results I have say, yeah, it works.

01:44:19.000 So, it's like this is real stuff.

01:44:21.000 And every step of the way, when you create a food, tells you how the food's going to make you perform.

01:44:27.000 And what I'm trying to do is help people understand, like, if for one day they can just have the best day ever where their energy and their focus and everything is super clear, and they just feel like a great golden god.

01:44:37.000 If you do that one time, you know you're capable of it, and you can start working towards that.

01:44:41.000 But most people I know have felt like crap without knowing it most of their life.

01:44:44.000 They've never had a wonderful day.

01:44:47.000 Once you have that day, you can learn how to kick more ass repeatedly.

01:44:51.000 So it's like, get all the crap out of the day.

01:44:52.000 Just do it right for a week and just see what can happen.

01:44:55.000 You look at the comments on my blog.

01:44:56.000 Like, people, they do this.

01:44:57.000 It takes like six weeks.

01:44:58.000 It's not that hard to do.

01:44:59.000 And all of a sudden, like, you know, you have twice the energy you had before.

01:45:02.000 Like, that's what I'm looking to do for people.

01:45:04.000 And when you have twice the energy, you get twice the shit done.

01:45:06.000 I tell you, I mentioned I'm a full-time executive.

01:45:09.000 Wiley's my publisher.

01:45:09.000 I wrote this book.

01:45:11.000 Gary Tobbs introduced me to my agent in New York.

01:45:13.000 Like, it's a tier one book with 1,300 references.

01:45:16.000 I started the Bulletproof Executive blog, which is in the top 25,000 blogs now.

01:45:20.000 150,000 people a month see it.

01:45:22.000 And I'm a dad.

01:45:23.000 I have two young kids.

01:45:25.000 I see them on a very regular basis.

01:45:27.000 Like, for me to be able to do all this stuff, I could have never done this in my mid-20s.

01:45:30.000 It's because I trained my brain and because I got my mitochondria functioning and I got my hormones functioning.

01:45:35.000 You looked at the body like a computer system.

01:45:38.000 Absolutely.

01:45:39.000 And are you the first guy to do that?

01:45:41.000 You know, there aren't that many computer guys.

01:45:44.000 Like, I'm 40, and the oldest computer guys are like 65, right?

01:45:48.000 So certainly we've talked for years about this, and there's, you know, the whole cyberpunk thing, which I admit I was a part of, you know, mirrored sunglasses and stuff like that.

01:45:57.000 But I'm one of the early guys.

01:45:58.000 Like, a lot of the Russians, the Russian space program did a lot of this stuff.

01:46:02.000 Like, this is a device.

01:46:04.000 This is called an older one, but it's the only one you can get that does programming where you can pick the frequency.

01:46:11.000 But I'll run a current across my brain.

01:46:12.000 This is actively the same thing you do to a computer.

01:46:15.000 When you do that, you can put yourself in the gamma state that's really hard to get into.

01:46:18.000 You just stick the electrodes on your head.

01:46:20.000 And that puts you in a gamma state, and what's the benefit of that?

01:46:22.000 Gamma state is actually a state where the Dalai Lama just announced a cash reward for anyone who could help him get into a gamma state in less than four hours, because that's how long it takes him.

01:46:31.000 He's looking for neuroscience ways to do it.

01:46:33.000 So literally, you stick these things on your forehead.

01:46:35.000 Has the Dalai Lama tried isolation tanks?

01:46:37.000 I don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me.

01:46:39.000 He's pretty open with his neuroscience stuff.

01:46:41.000 But you hook this thing up, you turn it on like that, and now it's running used.

01:46:47.000 Sounds weird.

01:46:48.000 It sounds like you're like a Frankenstein or something.

01:46:52.000 What are you doing?

01:46:54.000 It's a lie!

01:46:56.000 It's a lie.

01:46:57.000 It's grass-fed.

01:46:58.000 What I'm doing now, I'm running a systematic and grass-fed drink.

01:47:04.000 So what you do with something like that is literally, like, you are changing the waves in your brain like a computer.

01:47:09.000 And what is the benefit of that again?

01:47:10.000 Like, when you put that on, what does it actively do to you?

01:47:13.000 It depends on what setting you put it on.

01:47:14.000 If I'm going to be writing like a lot, I'll put it on a gamma state, and you're just in this focused, amazing kind of flow state.

01:47:20.000 Although alpha is also something that's more recognized as a flow state.

01:47:25.000 So you can control what state your brain is in.

01:47:26.000 You want to get rapid recovery during sleep.

01:47:29.000 If I'm only going to sleep two hours, I put that on.

01:47:31.000 And I put it on 1.5 hertz, which is associated with deep sleep.

01:47:34.000 And when I wake up, I feel really good.

01:47:36.000 I didn't get all the benefits of memory consolidation and dreaming.

01:47:39.000 Do you sell this thing?

01:47:40.000 No, you can just buy it.

01:47:42.000 Do you explain it on your website or anywhere?

01:47:44.000 Yeah, I have a top 10 brain hacks video.

01:47:46.000 It's a talk I gave at South by Southwest on this.

01:47:48.000 I would love to try that.

01:47:49.000 So it's giving a low-level electrical signal.

01:47:52.000 Yep.

01:47:53.000 what does that do exactly?

01:47:59.000 It's running a slight current back and forth.

01:48:01.000 Should I try the one too?

01:48:02.000 Sure.

01:48:04.000 You got me one a while ago.

01:48:04.000 I got one.

01:48:06.000 We were trying to get you to quit smoking.

01:48:08.000 It didn't work.

01:48:09.000 You never used it either.

01:48:10.000 No, I used it a lot.

01:48:11.000 It shocked me.

01:48:12.000 Stick those things on your forehead.

01:48:14.000 Yeah, it clips to your ears, right?

01:48:15.000 It was a little freaky.

01:48:16.000 Yeah.

01:48:16.000 This one used to have earclips, but I use the temple things just because they're a little easier.

01:48:22.000 And this is actually like a 10-year-old device.

01:48:24.000 The problem is most of the new ones have only one frequency, and this one lets you adjust the frequencies, which is helpful.

01:48:29.000 Okay, I'm putting it on my head.

01:48:30.000 And hit the power button on there, or just hand me the controls if you want.

01:48:33.000 Okay, power you up.

01:48:37.000 Stay posted later.

01:48:38.000 All right, that feels weird.

01:48:39.000 There's a volume control right here.

01:48:41.000 It's stinging my head.

01:48:42.000 It feels like there's a control.

01:48:43.000 Turn that volume control until it doesn't sting.

01:48:47.000 It feels like a bee who's trying to say he's playing a game of just the tip.

01:48:51.000 There you go.

01:48:52.000 The bee's playing just the tip with a stinger. 0.99

01:48:54.000 He's not quite stinging.

01:48:56.000 Come on, man.

01:48:57.000 Just let me get the tip in.

01:48:58.000 Just let me get the tip in.

01:49:00.000 Yeah.

01:49:02.000 It feels interesting.

01:49:03.000 Turn it down so it doesn't hurt, that's for sure.

01:49:05.000 What is it at now?

01:49:06.000 Yeah, I turned it up.

01:49:07.000 Okay.

01:49:08.000 Is that bad that it hurts?

01:49:09.000 No, it's not bad, but it'll still work if you just have a little tiny tingle.

01:49:12.000 You don't want to get really smart.

01:49:14.000 If I have to fucking suffer through a little bit of pain, I'm down.

01:49:16.000 So if you do this for 15, 20 minutes, for the next several hours, the alpha in the front half of your brain will be much higher than it was before.

01:49:24.000 Why doesn't everybody know about this?

01:49:25.000 This is ridiculous.

01:49:25.000 Your iPhone could do this.

01:49:26.000 I'm serious.

01:49:27.000 It's not that hard.

01:49:28.000 This could be an app?

01:49:29.000 Well, I mean, you'd have to set the iPhone up to do that.

01:49:31.000 But this whole quantified self-think I do, like, there's a whole bunch of people looking at this stuff.

01:49:34.000 How long before the government arrests you for all this?

01:49:37.000 You know, I didn't create super people.

01:49:39.000 The only thing that I've invented that's like new, some of the training techniques are different.

01:49:45.000 But I didn't invent cerebroelectrical stimulation.

01:49:47.000 The Russians did in their space program.

01:49:48.000 The reason that this came about is they said it costs a lot of money to send a cosmonaut up into space.

01:49:54.000 What if they didn't sleep?

01:49:55.000 We could send one-third less cosmonauts.

01:49:57.000 So they built this.

01:49:58.000 Well, I have one of those turbosonic machines.

01:50:02.000 I know you've talked very highly of those things, too.

01:50:04.000 Tell me what those do.

01:50:06.000 Somebody told me when I bought it and I forgot, but I use it all the time.

01:50:08.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:08.000 It's awesome.

01:50:09.000 Those things rock.

01:50:10.000 So I'll tell you flat out, you know, if you can afford 12 or 15 grand, buy the turbosonic.

01:50:14.000 I've used one for almost a year.

01:50:16.000 It's the most programmable and it's the quietest.

01:50:18.000 But it does the same thing that these other ones do.

01:50:20.000 Any of the ones that vibrate you up and down only are going to have the same effect.

01:50:24.000 There's a whole bunch of cheap ones that do like a side-to-side rocking that messes up your low back.

01:50:29.000 And also they tend to break.

01:50:30.000 I've broken welds on a couple of the cheap units.

01:50:33.000 It's some sort of a sound wave.

01:50:35.000 Right?

01:50:36.000 A speaker mechanism.

01:50:37.000 It's not really a sound wave with turbosonic, but it is a speaker mechanism.

01:50:40.000 You you've seen like a woofer, like a heavy-duty subwoofer and it goes doom, doom, doom, you know.

01:50:44.000 What's going on there is they took the sound baffles off, but they left the the speaker coil.

01:50:49.000 So it moves you up using that really efficient way of moving that a speaker uses.

01:50:53.000 So it's very precise.

01:50:54.000 The one that I have that costs 10% as much to make it within reach for the normal person, it uses a motor, so it's louder, but it has exactly the same up and down vibration that the turbosonic would have.

01:51:06.000 And there's another brand called PowerPlade out there, and they're all based on very similar principles.

01:51:10.000 And that's that when you vibrate the body like that, you're triggering something called piezoelectric signals in the bones, so it increases bone density.

01:51:18.000 Your muscles have to keep tensing and releasing, tensing and releasing, so you actually can build muscle on those, especially if you hold a kettlebell, just hold it out like this, like all of a sudden 30 times a second, you're doing this.

01:51:29.000 And I hate to say it, this is like the adult version of the shake weight, but it's powered and it seriously works.

01:51:35.000 And the final thing you get from this has to do with lymphatic circulation in the body.

01:51:40.000 So we have this whole waste elimination system called your lymph system.

01:51:45.000 And the way the lymph moves is you have to move your body.

01:51:48.000 And this is why people say, oh, you have to move.

01:51:50.000 Movement is so important for you.

01:51:51.000 Movement's important because it moves lymph.

01:51:53.000 It's not because it burns calories or doesn't burn calories.

01:51:55.000 That's a distraction.

01:51:56.000 Movement doesn't burn calories?

01:51:59.000 It burns calories, but it doesn't make you lose weight.

01:52:01.000 Like compared to, say, a short high-intensity interval will make you lose more weight than going for a walk that burns more calories than the high-intensity interval.

01:52:09.000 It's a hormonal effect you're getting.

01:52:10.000 This is like Dr. Doug McDuff's work, sorry, McGuff's work, from Body by Science.

01:52:17.000 Like there's definitely enormous loads of research there about caloric consumption from exercise and diet, and they don't line up for weight loss.

01:52:25.000 They just, in fact, yeah, I have a really good blog post about that.

01:52:28.000 Whoa.

01:52:29.000 In fact, the blog post is called It's Not the Calories Stupid, and it was in response to a New York Times piece where they actually wrote, It's the Calories Stupid, even though the study that they'd written about showed it wasn't the calories.

01:52:39.000 Like different people ate the same amount of calories and gained different amounts of fat.

01:52:42.000 Like, how did that happen?

01:52:44.000 But on the vibration plate, of course, you're burning energy, but you're moving all the lymphatic fluids in the body, and your microcapillaries are getting stimulated too.

01:52:54.000 Like, parts of you get shaken that might not normally get circulation.

01:52:57.000 So you typically feel like a burst of energy when you're done with it.

01:53:00.000 And you tend to slim down.

01:53:01.000 Like, I noticed, like, especially if you have inflammation going on, I'm still, because of my health background, I still, I get inflamed.

01:53:07.000 I eat the wrong stuff.

01:53:08.000 I puff up.

01:53:08.000 You do that, and it helps you to dump the extra inflammation.

01:53:11.000 So it's amazing detox plus exercise plus general stimulation of your body all at once.

01:53:17.000 Like for 15 minutes a day, it's a total bargain just in terms of time spent, whether it's on a turbosonic or the bulletproof vibe.

01:53:24.000 They both achieve the same kind of goals.

01:53:26.000 But I'll tell you flat out, you've got the Cadillac or the Mercedes of them.

01:53:29.000 The Turbosonic's the best made anywhere.

01:53:31.000 Yeah, I do 10 minutes of it before I work out.

01:53:34.000 I do a 10-minute shakedown.

01:53:36.000 I really like getting it.

01:53:37.000 And it feels good, doesn't it?

01:53:38.000 It feels amazing.

01:53:38.000 I love that feeling.

01:53:39.000 It's amazing.

01:53:40.000 And then when it really goes, when it's really going fast, for folks who've never tried it before, if you're anywhere near Venice, whoops, I lost one of my fucking Frankenstein lobes.

01:53:49.000 If you're anywhere near Venice, the Float Lab has it.

01:53:53.000 Crash is the one who sold me mine.

01:53:55.000 He's the fucking mad scientist, ladies and gentlemen.

01:53:58.000 They're giving me an updated tank, ladies and gentlemen.

01:54:00.000 There's a new tank that Crash has created.

01:54:02.000 It's even better.

01:54:03.000 He's a mad scientist.

01:54:04.000 He's a crazy man.

01:54:05.000 But he runs the Float Lab, the best isolation tank.

01:54:08.000 It's bar none in the world.

01:54:09.000 You might get one.

01:54:12.000 How the fuck do you not have one?

01:54:13.000 I've been looking at building one, but because I moved up to BC a couple years ago, I'm looking to buy a ranch.

01:54:17.000 So as soon as I get the ranch, I'm getting a good tank, but I don't want to move it into the place where I'm living now.

01:54:20.000 You should have it right now.

01:54:21.000 Crash will set it up and do everything for you.

01:54:23.000 You should have one right now, especially you.

01:54:25.000 How many times have you used one?

01:54:26.000 I've used a flow tank once, like 10 years already.

01:54:28.000 How dare you, sir!

01:54:30.000 Hooking up these fucking electrodes to your brain, you're not even taking advantage of one of the craziest pieces of machinery.

01:54:37.000 I love it.

01:54:38.000 It's a huge thing.

01:54:39.000 You only did it once.

01:54:40.000 I only did it once.

01:54:41.000 It's a question of where you live, right?

01:54:42.000 If there's not a flow tank near you, then yeah, it's on my list.

01:54:45.000 Not for me, it wasn't.

01:54:46.000 I did it once, and I was looking to buy a house, and one of the prerequisites for buying the house was having a room for the tank.

01:54:52.000 Yep, the house I'm looking to buy right now, same thing.

01:54:54.000 It's got to have space.

01:54:55.000 I have to have space for a pool table.

01:54:57.000 I have to have space for the tank.

01:54:58.000 That's non-negotiable.

01:55:00.000 Everything else, I can lift weights at a gym.

01:55:02.000 But I need a tank in the house.

01:55:04.000 It's hard to find a tank, you know, if you don't live near Venice.

01:55:07.000 The tank, for me, is something that anyone who's thinking about improving must have.

01:55:12.000 For creativity, it's a fascinating tool for self-introspective thinking.

01:55:19.000 It's just amazing.

01:55:21.000 In fact, it's one of those technologies, and there's a whole bunch of them out there that allows the prefrontal cortex, like the human part of your brain that you think of as you, to become aware of that really fast reptilian brain that runs circles around you.

01:55:33.000 You can't even see it happening until you get rid of all the noise.

01:55:36.000 And when you get into that flow tank, all of a sudden, like you do that personal exploration, you can do amazing things there.

01:55:43.000 You can do amazing things and you learn amazing things out about yourself.

01:55:46.000 You start making these drastic improvements in the way you look at things in there.

01:55:50.000 Because it's so self-analytical.

01:55:52.000 It's so self-observational.

01:55:55.000 When you're in there, you don't have anything going on with your body.

01:55:57.000 So you're just alone with your thoughts.

01:55:59.000 And you have to address them.

01:56:01.000 You can't get confused and separated with busy work.

01:56:04.000 You're not going to.

01:56:05.000 Within 20 minutes, anything that's really fucking with you will come to the surface.

01:56:08.000 Have you ever played with neurofeedback?

01:56:10.000 What is that?

01:56:11.000 This is when you hook electrodes up to your head and you get the signal from your brain.

01:56:15.000 This is profound stuff.

01:56:16.000 It's on par with a flow tank.

01:56:18.000 In fact, I've had my own EEG since 1998.

01:56:20.000 Whoa.

01:56:22.000 Like at home because it's that impactful.

01:56:25.000 And what you do there is your brain, it's unable to see itself.

01:56:29.000 Like your brain can see the whole world around you, but it doesn't have nerves inside itself.

01:56:33.000 That's why like you see brain surgery, they can take the top off your head and like poke at your brain and it doesn't hurt.

01:56:37.000 There's no nerves in there.

01:56:38.000 Like you cut your arm, then what's going to happen is, well, there's nerves there and the arm heals relatively quickly.

01:56:38.000 There's nerves in your arm.

01:56:44.000 We get these traumatic brain injuries.

01:56:45.000 They don't heal very well because the brain doesn't even know it's broken.

01:56:47.000 So it's incredibly good at the world and incredibly bad at itself.

01:56:51.000 So what you do is you get the signal from the brain, you play it through an amplifier, it turns it into music and it plays the music back to you.

01:56:57.000 And when you think about something, the music gets louder.

01:56:59.000 When You think about something else, the music gets quieter.

01:57:03.000 So, you can teach the brain to think in a new way.

01:57:06.000 So, I've done extensive neurofeedback training, and literally, seven days was the equivalent of 40 years of daily Zen practice.

01:57:12.000 This was really, really hardcore, intense seven days.

01:57:15.000 It was the hardest thing I've ever done.

01:57:16.000 It cost me 20 grand.

01:57:18.000 And I was hooked up to like an $11 million EEG machine for at least half that time.

01:57:23.000 But, I mean, you want introspection.

01:57:24.000 When you look at a, when you hear a sound, your brain can't help but optimize itself.

01:57:29.000 Like, it tells you when you're doing it wrong.

01:57:31.000 You think of like the meditation path that people are on.

01:57:33.000 They're like, oh, I meditate this way.

01:57:35.000 Oh, I did it wrong for five years.

01:57:37.000 Sorry.

01:57:37.000 And then they do it over here and they sort of meander.

01:57:38.000 And then, you know, their teachers tell them, try meditating this way.

01:57:41.000 Well, what if there was a computer and it lit up the path?

01:57:44.000 So like on either side of the path, there's like, you know, the sounds get quiet on either side of the path.

01:57:48.000 All of a sudden, you can do meditative type of things to yourself that would take you years of focused practice.

01:57:56.000 You can do it in days.

01:57:57.000 And because synaptogenesis, this part of the brain that makes new synapses, happens within like 20 days, you can totally rewire your head in short, short amounts of time.

01:58:06.000 Like unbelievably short.

01:58:08.000 So you rewire your head by use of electrical frequencies so you can literally program it to do exactly what you want it to do.

01:58:16.000 Right, but we're not putting the frequencies into the head.

01:58:18.000 All we're doing is we're using like a mirror because the brain doesn't have any nerves inside itself.

01:58:22.000 The brain will on its own figure out, oh my god, that sound, that's me.

01:58:26.000 And it'll start doing things to like adjust how it works.

01:58:29.000 Like for things like ADD, people who have been hit on the head, these guys, they get improved very dramatically.

01:58:36.000 But the kind I did is correlated with a 12 IQ point boost that's stable a year later and like 50% more creativity.

01:58:42.000 What?

01:58:43.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, How do I get in on this?

01:58:43.000 Wow, that's amazing.

01:58:49.000 Well, I'll hook you up with a guy who does it.

01:58:52.000 He runs a private facility out in Canada, Jimmy.

01:58:54.000 Takes seven full days and takes 15 grand plus travel expenses.

01:58:58.000 Sounds like I'm getting robbed.

01:59:00.000 Is it behind a 7-Eleven in the alley?

01:59:02.000 This is nonsense.

01:59:04.000 The guy is an ex-faculty member from UCSF.

01:59:07.000 He's been doing this for 35 years and he runs a private facility.

01:59:10.000 By the way, you are getting robbed.

01:59:11.000 This should be available on every street corner, and it should be in every school, and it should cost about $300.

01:59:15.000 It would transform society.

01:59:17.000 The fact that it's $15,000 pisses me off every day, which is why I'm not telling you his name right now, because it would shut his website down anyway.

01:59:23.000 Yeah, we will crush your website, son.

01:59:25.000 That sounds like, really, for seven days, though, it actually doesn't sound like a ripoff.

01:59:29.000 If it turns you into a super genius, it sounds like a ripoff.

01:59:30.000 It does.

01:59:32.000 I mean, I'd already done a lot of work on myself, but I came out of there and like that voice in your head, that thing that gets in your way, it's your bitch when you're done. 1.00

01:59:42.000 So you can go there and it just completely rewires your brain in seven days.

01:59:47.000 It is hard work, don't get me wrong.

01:59:48.000 What do you have to do?

01:59:49.000 Well, you sit there in a dark room with a speaker on either side of your head and eight electrodes glued to your head, and then you do whatever you have to do to make the sound louder and make your score go higher.

01:59:49.000 What is the hard work?

01:59:58.000 And the first three days, you just like your brain's just doing its thing.

02:00:01.000 And then after that, you have to dig in on like your most, just like in a flow tank.

02:00:05.000 My ultimate fantasy would be that I go there and I'm like super gifted at this and I break the whole building.

02:00:10.000 Yeah, right.

02:00:12.000 Yeah.

02:00:15.000 We're getting to that point.

02:00:17.000 I want you to do this.

02:00:18.000 I think it's a good thing.

02:00:20.000 I'll do it with you.

02:00:21.000 I've actually been thinking about going back.

02:00:22.000 Really?

02:00:22.000 Yeah.

02:00:23.000 Can you stay on top of each other?

02:00:24.000 Wait a minute.

02:00:24.000 Can you get super.

02:00:26.000 What if you're like a fucking intellectual vampire and I get dumber and you get smarter?

02:00:31.000 That's what he's trying to say.

02:00:31.000 What if he hacks you?

02:00:32.000 I'm saying, my friend.

02:00:33.000 I'd like to remind you, you've got my electrodes on your forehead right now.

02:00:36.000 It's already been done.

02:00:37.000 Oh, see, I'm not susceptible to this shit, son.

02:00:40.000 You're going to need something a little stronger for this fathead.

02:00:43.000 What is this thing?

02:00:43.000 I think I said on your Twitter about you paying to get hacked.

02:00:47.000 What was that all about?

02:00:48.000 Paying for what?

02:00:49.000 Maybe I hold on.

02:00:50.000 Never mind.

02:00:51.000 You mean biohacking?

02:00:52.000 How much you spent biohacking?

02:00:53.000 Oh, the quarter million dollars.

02:00:54.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:00:55.000 Yeah, okay.

02:00:55.000 So over the past 15 years, I've spent a quarter million dollars on everything I can think of that improves human performance.

02:01:01.000 I'm like, I'm just going to do it.

02:01:03.000 So 20 grand.

02:01:04.000 Actually, I did it a couple times.

02:01:06.000 So 20 grand and 25 grand, whatever there.

02:01:09.000 I've taken ungodly numbers of supplements and smart drugs.

02:01:13.000 I've tried all kinds of electronics.

02:01:15.000 I have like a whole mad biohacker laboratory at home.

02:01:17.000 Like I've got my vibrating plate.

02:01:19.000 I've got an ozone generator.

02:01:21.000 I've got a couple different EEG machines.

02:01:23.000 I have an ozone generator in my tank set up because Crash uses it to purify the water.

02:01:28.000 That's the best way to purify water. 0.97

02:01:30.000 Powerful Crash.

02:01:31.000 Are you sponsored by Grass to pay for all this?

02:01:35.000 The Scott Industries.

02:01:35.000 Sponsored by Grass.

02:01:37.000 It's actually BC Bud.

02:01:41.000 Have you ever looked into eating cannabis?

02:01:44.000 Yeah.

02:01:44.000 As a food?

02:01:46.000 I've looked at eating hemp, not, you mean eating hemp?

02:01:48.000 Actually, cannabis.

02:01:49.000 Cannabis is when you don't cook it, it's not psychoactive.

02:01:51.000 But you eat it.

02:01:53.000 The psychoactive plant of cannabis, if you eat it, does not make you high.

02:01:58.000 But it's incredibly healthy.

02:01:59.000 Oh, interesting.

02:01:59.000 It's beneficial.

02:02:00.000 Yeah.

02:02:02.000 I've never tried it, but it sounds kind of cool.

02:02:03.000 It's supposed to be really great to juice as well.

02:02:06.000 Interesting.

02:02:07.000 That's really cool.

02:02:08.000 Well, if it was legal, it would be so easy and cheap to grow that you could literally eat it that way for health, smoke it, do whatever you want.

02:02:14.000 It wouldn't be such a...

02:02:18.000 It just throws it everywhere.

02:02:19.000 You could throw seeds out the window.

02:02:21.000 I mean, it's famous.

02:02:22.000 People have been driving their car, they throw joints out the window.

02:02:24.000 They drive by six months later, there's a fucking giant bush of marijuana growing there.

02:02:28.000 I mean, it really is a super hardy plant.

02:02:30.000 And like the protein in there is really high in IgG.

02:02:33.000 It's great protein.

02:02:35.000 It's a bit high in the omega-6 fats if it's all you're going to eat.

02:02:39.000 But certainly you eat some of it, it's fine.

02:02:41.000 But if you get those protein, it's one of, in fact, I would say it's the best plant source protein that I know of.

02:02:46.000 If you're going to eat a plant-source protein, it's very digestible, too.

02:02:48.000 That's my favorite part of it.

02:02:49.000 It's one of the few things, hemp with coconut juice and coconut oil, but I use it with C2O, baby, C2O coconut juice, because it is my favorite.

02:02:58.000 If I can't get raw, raw is raw is tough to fuck with.

02:03:01.000 If you can get raw, but it only lasts for like a little while.

02:03:04.000 That's the best.

02:03:04.000 You can't really keep it in the fridge.

02:03:06.000 But that hemp stuff, hemp forced protein powder, the stuff that I use, you could take it and go to the gym an hour later.

02:03:13.000 It's the only thing that I could do jiu-jitsu an hour later because it's so easy for your body to digest.

02:03:17.000 It's just not taxing at all.

02:03:19.000 The stuff we use, too, is the most expensive because it has the highest ratio of protein to like to, like some of them are more coarse.

02:03:27.000 Some of the hearts are more coarse.

02:03:28.000 They don't have as high a ratio of protein to be a lot of fun.

02:03:30.000 That's what you want to do.

02:03:31.000 Yeah, it's really super easily digestible, but illegal to grow, but not illegal to have or sell.

02:03:31.000 Yeah.

02:03:40.000 Thank you, Canada, right?

02:03:40.000 But illegal to grow.

02:03:41.000 Yeah.

02:03:41.000 Well, thank you, the United States, for fucking saying that it's illegal to grow a plant.

02:03:45.000 You dunces.

02:03:47.000 It's just such, you know, we at Onit, we could have had a farm.

02:03:51.000 We were thinking about like Vermont.

02:03:53.000 We looked into Vermont because Vermont passed laws.

02:03:55.000 But the federal government has clearly said we will lock you in jail if you try to grow this plant.

02:04:00.000 Here's how to get past all this.

02:04:01.000 I just figured it out.

02:04:02.000 Uh-oh.

02:04:02.000 Monsanto needs to make genetically modified pot, and then it'll be legal to grow everywhere.

02:04:06.000 Listen, yeah, but then they'll probably fuck with the pot, and the pot turns you into a Nazi. 0.76

02:04:10.000 Turn you into an octopus or something?

02:04:12.000 Yeah, it's going to do something to you.

02:04:13.000 It's going to ruin you.

02:04:14.000 I hope they don't do that in case anyone there is listening.

02:04:16.000 Yeah, please, Monsanto, leave weed alone. 0.90

02:04:18.000 Concentrate on sweet potatoes or whatever the fuck you're doing.

02:04:22.000 This is scary ass company, man.

02:04:24.000 Somebody needs to get those people some mushrooms. 1.00

02:04:26.000 Amen.

02:04:27.000 Get those people some mushrooms and understand the impact of your decisions just to put ones and zeros.

02:04:31.000 There's some serious therapeutic value to medicinal mushrooms.

02:04:34.000 Oh, fuck yeah, there are.

02:04:35.000 That's John Hopkins University showed significant improvements in people's personalities years later.

02:04:41.000 How many kilobytes is Joe's brain being downloaded?

02:04:45.000 That's like a 32 megabyte file?

02:04:46.000 You're feeling pretty smart right now, Brian.

02:04:48.000 No, he's taking, he just copied and pasted.

02:04:52.000 I don't even know what my own memories are.

02:04:54.000 I'm actually on my iPad here, I'm looking at what he's thinking about, and I feel dirty.

02:04:57.000 Oh, I'm dirty.

02:04:58.000 Black oxygen.

02:05:00.000 Not black ox anymore.

02:05:02.000 That's a flashback.

02:05:04.000 Flashback to the past, son.

02:05:05.000 How dare you?

02:05:06.000 How dare you?

02:05:07.000 Are you feeling anything from the electrodes?

02:05:09.000 I don't know.

02:05:10.000 It's hard to say.

02:05:11.000 I don't feel bad.

02:05:12.000 You can be pretty subtle and just see if you're in the zone a little more for the next few hours after this.

02:05:16.000 Yeah, I think it feels cool.

02:05:17.000 I like it.

02:05:18.000 like the fact that I think it does something for me.

02:05:20.000 But this other thing, this fucking seven day jammy, that sounds...

02:05:26.000 Pretty much most of them.

02:05:28.000 When you get there, you check in your watch and your cell phone and you just do it until you're done.

02:05:33.000 You don't even pay attention to time.

02:05:35.000 It's just like time goes away and all your time.

02:05:36.000 How many people have done this?

02:05:38.000 10,000 people have done this, and they've all reported similar results.

02:05:38.000 10,000?

02:05:41.000 U.S. Army Special Forces had this guy train them for seven months straight.

02:05:44.000 So it's like a Jason Bourne type thing.

02:05:46.000 Really?

02:05:47.000 So there's a way you can go and you sit down in this fucking place for seven days and there's a permanent change in your IQ and your creativity.

02:05:54.000 Yep.

02:05:55.000 That start a Kickstarter for you, Joe.

02:05:56.000 We're going to make a movie about this.

02:05:58.000 Damn it.

02:05:59.000 Son of a bitch. 0.88

02:06:01.000 I don't need that, man.

02:06:03.000 I'm telling you, man, for you, you talk about ADD, just like kind of having your brain that's a comedian brain that's all over the place.

02:06:12.000 You don't lose any of that creativity, but it becomes malleable for you.

02:06:16.000 My performance, I did this in like 2008 or 2007.

02:06:21.000 I think 2000.

02:06:22.000 No.

02:06:23.000 Anyway, mid-2000s.

02:06:25.000 And I don't know.

02:06:26.000 I came back.

02:06:27.000 I drive fast.

02:06:28.000 I've always driven fast.

02:06:30.000 I'm a very safe driver.

02:06:31.000 But when someone in a Prius cuts me off, it pisses me off.

02:06:35.000 And it's always the Priuses that cut you off.

02:06:37.000 So I'd, you know, like, you son of a bitch.

02:06:38.000 And when I'm done with this, I came back.

02:06:40.000 I'm like, oh, someone in a Prius cut me off.

02:06:42.000 But zero emotional cost.

02:06:44.000 All the energy that I used to waste on getting pissed off about stuff that didn't matter completely went back to productivity and like just kicking more ass.

02:06:52.000 It's amazing what happens when you just teach your brain that you're the boss and you tell your little reptile brain in there to shut the hell up and to do its job to keep you from burning yourself to death or falling off a cliff, but to not be freaking you out the rest of the time for no reason. 0.51

02:07:04.000 Is it possible to do that without sitting in a room for seven days getting blasted with sounds?

02:07:11.000 Give me a feel, like a simulation of what you think this could be like.

02:07:14.000 Something like that?

02:07:14.000 There you go.

02:07:15.000 It's kind of like that.

02:07:16.000 And then you try and make it louder.

02:07:17.000 Except it's more like an orchestra or like a stringed instrument kind of thing or a synthesizer.

02:07:24.000 Yeah.

02:07:25.000 It's not binural beats.

02:07:26.000 They're not putting anything into your head.

02:07:27.000 It's all you controlling your head.

02:07:29.000 All they're doing is playing back to you.

02:07:31.000 It's like if you had a real-time readout on your iPhone right here, it's like, here's what my brain's doing right now.

02:07:36.000 Then you could look at it and be like, oh, my brain's getting bigger.

02:07:38.000 It's getting smaller.

02:07:39.000 I'm getting happier.

02:07:40.000 It's like that.

02:07:41.000 But it's coaching you to move in the right direction.

02:07:43.000 So your brain will be in the same state of someone who spent 40 years doing Zen meditation.

02:07:47.000 I had an experience once when I was on a psychedelic and where I started thinking negative thoughts and the imagery that I was seeing got dark, like black and green, and it started folding into itself.

02:08:02.000 And it looked bad.

02:08:04.000 It looked like rot, like something was going.

02:08:06.000 And then I realized it and I forced myself to relax and let go and think positive.

02:08:12.000 And then it all, boom, it blossomed in front of me like this incredibly beautiful geometric flower just blossomed out of it.

02:08:20.000 And it was like a lesson to me of the actual power of thinking.

02:08:24.000 That if you do think negative, it's not if you think negative and do nothing, nothing goes wrong.

02:08:29.000 No, if you think negative, you're getting negative energy in your life.

02:08:33.000 There's no doubt about it.

02:08:34.000 There's a cost to you.

02:08:35.000 Yes.

02:08:36.000 That thought process, the concentration on anything that's negative, is not good for you.

02:08:41.000 It's just bad, period.

02:08:43.000 And I could see it in a beautiful geometric form.

02:08:46.000 It's very strange, but profound.

02:08:48.000 And it taught me something that I took from that day and slowly applied to my life.

02:08:53.000 When people realize the effect of their negative emotions, like, you know, if I was sitting here right now and I was thinking, you know, this Joe guy's a total prick.

02:09:02.000 I'm just glad I'm here.

02:09:03.000 Or, you know, even if I was acting all nice, but I was thinking really negative things about you, like, it would cost me more than to sit here and be like, this is fucking cool stuff to be talking about.

02:09:10.000 Yeah.

02:09:11.000 Or to sit here and just be really thinking nothing and going through the motions.

02:09:11.000 Right?

02:09:14.000 You would feel it too.

02:09:15.000 Have you ever done an interview with someone and they were like kind of douchey and totally felt this weird feeling where they were trying to be nice to you?

02:09:21.000 It's not authentic, even if they're trying their best, right?

02:09:23.000 We all pick that up.

02:09:24.000 Like we all know it, but then the scientific part of our brain that likes to ignore the brainstem altogether gets all pissed off.

02:09:30.000 And like we try to pretend like, oh, it's just me, but it's not.

02:09:33.000 And here's the thing.

02:09:34.000 We can measure this in your body.

02:09:35.000 Your heart rate variability.

02:09:36.000 Like people who think negative thoughts, their heart rate variability is low.

02:09:39.000 People who think positive thoughts, it goes up.

02:09:41.000 And you can actually exercise those thoughts with a $200 little device, the M-Wave 2.

02:09:45.000 And it's also the way you think about life.

02:09:49.000 It sets patterns.

02:09:50.000 And these choices sort of set these patterns that are easier to follow the next time.

02:09:54.000 And it becomes something that's sort of a path that you ordinarily go on.

02:09:59.000 And if you can Figure out how to get that to a positive, you will benefit.

02:10:03.000 In fact, you know what this is?

02:10:04.000 Like, you know, you can lift muscles and work on your bicep, right?

02:10:09.000 Well, you can do the same thing to your brain.

02:10:12.000 And it takes about 20 days of doing something every day for new synapses to form.

02:10:16.000 And when you do that, you can work on the synapses for compassion or forgiveness or just calmness and being in the zone.

02:10:23.000 Or you can work on ones for being pissed off and cranky, right?

02:10:25.000 And like wherever you put that energy, those muscles get stronger.

02:10:28.000 So you want a bigger amygdala, be pissed off all the time.

02:10:30.000 Is the amygdala bad?

02:10:36.000 I bet Joey Diaz is fucking huge.

02:10:38.000 I bet his amygdala is like his balls.

02:10:41.000 I bet it's just completely oversized.

02:10:43.000 That's a serious Twitter right there.

02:10:44.000 His amygdala is like his balls.

02:10:47.000 Oversized, ready to explode.

02:10:49.000 Joey will get mad if you have the wrong fucking salad dressing on a table.

02:10:53.000 Yeah.

02:10:54.000 He'll kill you.

02:10:55.000 He'll kill you.

02:10:56.000 If you try to give him ranch dressing with wings, he'll fucking kill you.

02:11:00.000 And it's one of those things where your brain's a muscle, you work it out.

02:11:03.000 What I found is using electronics like that, you can work out just the right parts.

02:11:07.000 The heart rate variability, when you do that, you work out alpha in the front of the brain, and you live longer, you perform better.

02:11:12.000 You've got all kinds of sports athletes now using heart rate variability to look at over-training states.

02:11:17.000 If you're over-trained, your body gets weaker.

02:11:20.000 But here's the weird thing as a coach, like who uses this with my clients.

02:11:25.000 I hook them up to the M-wave.

02:11:26.000 It's a little clip on their ear.

02:11:27.000 It just looks at the space between their heartbeats.

02:11:29.000 And I tell them, make the light turn green on this little machine.

02:11:32.000 And they're like, how do I do it?

02:11:33.000 So breathe in and breathe out.

02:11:34.000 It's pretty easy.

02:11:35.000 Five seconds in, five seconds out.

02:11:36.000 It turns green.

02:11:37.000 Great, you got that.

02:11:38.000 Let's turn up to the next one.

02:11:39.000 And I say, now you got to focus on your heart.

02:11:41.000 Okay, this is ridiculous.

02:11:42.000 I'm not that much of a hip yet.

02:11:43.000 Focus on your heart and breathe into your heart.

02:11:45.000 And like, really?

02:11:46.000 I'm like, yeah, just do it.

02:11:48.000 Okay, and light doesn't exactly turn green.

02:11:50.000 Breathe in through your heart.

02:11:50.000 I'm like, great.

02:11:51.000 Now think about puppies.

02:11:52.000 And the damn light turns green.

02:11:53.000 Okay, I don't like it that the light turns green, but they have to think of something that makes them go, aw, like their firstborn, you know, the way their mom hugs them, whatever it is.

02:12:03.000 When you consciously bring that thought in and that feeling in, it changes the way your heart beats.

02:12:07.000 And you can see it on a little green light.

02:12:08.000 There's no question about the fact that it changed your physiology when you changed what you were thinking about.

02:12:13.000 You can see it.

02:12:14.000 And that shows you how much power your thinking has over your physical body.

02:12:18.000 And when you do that, and you do that regularly for about six weeks, 10 minutes a day, you build the synapses for being happy because that's what you're teaching yourself to consciously do.

02:12:27.000 And when you're done, you can walk into a meeting where there's some asshole yelling at you, and you realize you're starting to get stressed and you want to kill the guy.

02:12:33.000 And you're like, I'm just going to turn on happy.

02:12:35.000 You still care that he's yelling at you.

02:12:36.000 You're still going to do what you're going to do, but you're totally in control instead of like the part of you that's like, I'm going to kill this guy now.

02:12:42.000 Like, no, no, I'm going to kill the guy just the right time.

02:12:44.000 Like when someone's talking in a movie theater and just grinds at you.

02:12:47.000 Yes.

02:12:47.000 You're just ready to fucking kill them.

02:12:49.000 Yes.

02:12:49.000 Dude, you dropped some serious science on this podcast today.

02:12:52.000 I don't know if there's ever been a podcast where I know I have to go back over it with a notepad.

02:12:58.000 I've got about 50 different things that I need to look into now.

02:13:03.000 This has been really crazy.

02:13:04.000 Thank you very much.

02:13:05.000 It's been fun, Joe.

02:13:05.000 Thanks for having me.

02:13:06.000 Fucking incredibly fascinating guy.

02:13:08.000 And go to bulletproofexec.com, folks, and all of Dave's stuff is up there.

02:13:14.000 All the different articles, all his different products, the upgraded coffee, the upgraded chef book he wrote, and the whey protein that's made with grass-fed beef and all this, and the upgraded MCT oil that is just coming out now.

02:13:27.000 And if they want to follow you on Twitter, it's BulletproofExec on Twitter.

02:13:31.000 Dude, you got to do this again, man.

02:13:33.000 This is amazing.

02:13:33.000 Three times.

02:13:34.000 This is really amazing.

02:13:35.000 By the way, Mac Danzig wants to debate people that say he does.

02:13:38.000 He said that as a vegan, he wants to debate people from a health point of view.

02:13:42.000 But I think he might get trounced.

02:13:45.000 I told him to bring it on Twitter.

02:13:47.000 It'd be cool.

02:13:48.000 I love Mac, but he might be out of his league.

02:13:50.000 I've converted about three dozen vegans back to eating meat, at least some of the time.

02:13:54.000 Well, Mac's a real noble guy.

02:13:55.000 He really is.

02:13:56.000 Legitimate.

02:13:57.000 He's the real deal.

02:13:58.000 And I think his issue is with factory farming.

02:14:01.000 You know, my issue with the people that say you shouldn't kill animals is guess what?

02:14:04.000 There's a responsibility at the top of the food chain, ladies and gentlemen.

02:14:07.000 You're going to have to either castrate all the males, you're going to have to control population somehow, you have to pin them up, you're going to have to do something because you can't just have no predators.

02:14:16.000 And if you do have all these game animals wandering around like deer and cows, and if there's a giant surplus of them because no one's eating them anymore, you're going to have predators.

02:14:24.000 They're going to eat your vegetables, too.

02:14:26.000 They're going to eat your vegetables. 0.98

02:14:26.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:14:27.000 They're going to die of starvation.

02:14:29.000 I mean, what are we going to do?

02:14:30.000 We're going to be babysitting all the cows to the rest of time. 0.92

02:14:33.000 We're going to have to fucking figure out how to manage cow societies. 1.00

02:14:36.000 They don't live forever if you don't eat them, ladies and gentlemen.

02:14:39.000 I agree that factory farming is disgusting and horrible and horrific, but cows don't live forever and they're delicious.

02:14:45.000 And there's a reason why they taste so good is because something has to fucking die for something to taste that good.

02:14:50.000 You don't get that from beets.

02:14:52.000 Okay?

02:14:52.000 You don't get that from celery.

02:14:54.000 Although I do love celery and I do love kale shakes.

02:14:57.000 And if you go to onit.com, O-N-N-I-T, the Blendech blender.

02:15:03.000 What we did is I talk about the kale shakes that I drink every morning so often on the podcast that I have all these people taking them and they're like, what's the best blender?

02:15:12.000 For the years I was using a Vitamix, which is awesome.

02:15:14.000 If you can get one of those, those are awesome too.

02:15:16.000 But it turns out the Blend Tech is supposed to be the best.

02:15:18.000 That's what I'm using.

02:15:19.000 Are they cheaper than a Vitamix?

02:15:21.000 About the same?

02:15:21.000 You're dead on it.

02:15:22.000 They're the same.

02:15:22.000 They're the best.

02:15:23.000 I've been using a Blend Tech for a long time, and if you're going to make Bulletproof coffee the right way, you want a Blend Tech.

02:15:28.000 So they should go to your site.

02:15:29.000 They should buy a Blendech because you get the creamiest foam in a real blender like that.

02:15:33.000 You cannot beat that blender.

02:15:34.000 Great choice.

02:15:35.000 There you go.

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02:17:48.000 He's a great guy and a very good ref as well.

02:17:51.000 And there's usually about 5,000 people at these events.

02:17:53.000 So if you want to get tickets, you've got to jump on that shit.

02:17:55.000 They're really fun to watch.

02:17:56.000 If you've never been to a regional show, a lot of the guys you see in these shows, like Shogun Fights, are guys you will see one day in the UFC.

02:18:03.000 That's absolutely their goal.

02:18:04.000 And there's going to be a lot of talented fighters on this card.

02:18:06.000 And it's a really good opportunity to see fights alive and to catch people early in their career that who knows?

02:18:12.000 You might see somebody from this card.

02:18:14.000 They might win a title one day.

02:18:15.000 I mean, it's very possible.

02:18:16.000 There's some really high-level talent, and John Rollo is a good buddy of mine, and he's one of Henzo Gracie's black belts.

02:18:22.000 So he's a very good judge of talent.

02:18:26.000 And this is his promotion.

02:18:27.000 So for my boy, John Rollo, go check out Showgun Fights, ladies and gentlemen.

02:18:32.000 ShowgunFights.com.

02:18:34.000 Thank you to everybody that listens to this podcast.

02:18:37.000 Thanks to all the cool messages that I get on Twitter.

02:18:40.000 Thanks to all the cool people that I run into out there in the field, in the wilds of the world.

02:18:45.000 Can I mention we just put on a Dayton, Ohio on sale for the Death Squad tour with me and Tom Segura?

02:18:52.000 Tom Segura now.

02:18:52.000 And yeah, Doug Benson's going to be in the Columbus show, but it's at DeathSquad.tv.

02:18:57.000 DeathSquad.tv is also where you can get Brian's funky cat t-shirts.

02:19:01.000 Dose of them available.

02:19:02.000 You still have some of the original ones, right?

02:19:04.000 I don't need a triple fat sizes.

02:19:05.000 Oh, you fat fucks. 0.99

02:19:06.000 Go out there and buy them if you're a big fatty.

02:19:09.000 Or get some MCT oil in your life, son, and get on with the new program.

02:19:15.000 DeathSquad.tv is that.

02:19:16.000 And Hire Primate, of course, my t-shirt line, which is updated.

02:19:20.000 We've got all new ones.

02:19:22.000 I'm hiring some people and shit, so I'm trying not to run out of shirts anymore.

02:19:24.000 I really appreciate everybody buying them, though.

02:19:26.000 Hire-primate.com.

02:19:28.000 New designs coming.

02:19:28.000 My man Mike Maxwell made some dope ones.

02:19:32.000 All right, we'll be back tomorrow.

02:19:33.000 Tomorrow on the podcast, we have David Seaman.

02:19:36.000 Don't laugh.

02:19:38.000 Don't laugh.

02:19:41.000 And David is also bringing with him a reporter from RT.

02:19:47.000 And she is going to break down some more reasons why the government should be listening in on this show. 0.71

02:19:55.000 And her name is Abby Martin.

02:19:56.000 She seems very cool.

02:19:57.000 And she's going to come in with David tomorrow.

02:20:00.000 And then Wednesday, we got who else?

02:20:03.000 Oh, Victor Conti is on Wednesday.

02:20:05.000 And that should be fascinating.

02:20:06.000 He's the guy from the Balco scandal, where they were all taking the steroid that was undetectable.

02:20:11.000 And he's going to break down performance-enhancing drugs in professional sports.

02:20:15.000 And he's going to explain to us what the fuck is going on, you dirty bitches. 1.00

02:20:18.000 We need to start selling us bulletproof jackets, I think.

02:20:22.000 And with that fucking zinger, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, everybody.

02:20:26.000 You guys are the shit.

02:20:27.000 We love you.

02:20:27.000 And we'll see you soon.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 16, 2012

Joe Rogan Experience #275 - Dave Asprey

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