The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #321 - Melissa Etheridge

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00:02:43.000 Listen, Melissa Etheridge is here, and I don't want to bore the shit out of her with our stupid commercial. 1.00

00:02:48.000 So, it's over. 0.99

00:02:50.000 Brian, cue the music.

00:02:51.000 Make it official.

00:03:02.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Melissa Etheridge.

00:03:04.000 Hey! 0.99

00:03:05.000 Thank you so much for being here.

00:03:06.000 What a pleasure to be here.

00:03:07.000 I gotta tell you, when I got a message saying, Melissa Etheridge wants to do your podcast, I had to think, did I ever talk shit about Melissa Etheridge? 0.93

00:03:14.000 Right. 0.96

00:03:14.000 I just had a really cool... 0.96

00:03:16.000 Because as a comedian...

00:03:18.000 Oh, I know.

00:03:18.000 I'm easy, aren't I? Well, everyone's easy.

00:03:20.000 I'm easy, too.

00:03:21.000 But it's, you know, it's like you wanna...

00:03:24.000 If you ever did...

00:03:25.000 And I didn't.

00:03:26.000 But if you ever did make fun of something, you're like, look, I didn't mean it.

00:03:29.000 Hey, I completely understand comedy.

00:03:32.000 I'm actually someone that knows that if you're making fun of me, that means that I must be doing something successful.

00:03:37.000 Oh, for sure.

00:03:37.000 So I'm all good.

00:03:38.000 Yeah, and even if I'm accusing someone of being pretentious or whatever, I'm guilty of being stupid. 0.99

00:03:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:03:45.000 So just a joke.

00:03:46.000 I have to do it.

00:03:47.000 I can't just let it sit there.

00:03:48.000 It's in the middle of the world, and I can't point out...

00:03:51.000 It's your job.

00:03:52.000 Comedy is sacred.

00:03:54.000 Believe me.

00:03:54.000 You believe that?

00:03:55.000 I totally believe it.

00:03:56.000 Comedy is that part of truth, and it's people like you.

00:03:59.000 It's why you resonate so well with all what you're doing right now.

00:04:02.000 Because comedy pushes.

00:04:04.000 When you stand up in front of people and say, this is...

00:04:09.000 The truth.

00:04:10.000 And then they ha-ha-ha, they laugh.

00:04:11.000 And laughter is that release.

00:04:13.000 Right.

00:04:13.000 It's beautiful.

00:04:14.000 I think that release, whatever that feeling is, that when you laugh, whatever that thing that makes you laugh, I think if that was a drug, if you could buy that, like at 7-Eleven, like you could buy a coffee.

00:04:25.000 Man.

00:04:26.000 Because when I go to see like a – like I worked this weekend with a couple of really funny guys with Brian Callen and Ari Shafir and Brian Redman here.

00:04:34.000 We worked in Vegas.

00:04:36.000 We had this show.

00:04:38.000 And one of the things I love about like working with really funny guys is like actually getting to laugh.

00:04:44.000 Actually getting to be an audience member, because a lot of Brian Callen stuff was new.

00:04:48.000 I hadn't heard it before.

00:04:49.000 And I was just howling, laughing.

00:04:51.000 It's such a good feeling.

00:04:53.000 And very similar in a lot of ways to the feeling that a great song can hit you.

00:05:00.000 Well, it's what we do.

00:05:01.000 We do very similar things.

00:05:02.000 We take human emotion, human experience, and organize it in a way that it gets past all the normal barriers.

00:05:11.000 I hopefully can tap into a feeling that a person has.

00:05:18.000 That goes beyond their head, but it goes straight into their heart, and then they get to release it.

00:05:24.000 That'll cause you sickness, too, if you keep too many emotions inside.

00:05:28.000 So comedy is the same.

00:05:29.000 It's all about letting it so healthy.

00:05:31.000 The difference with comedy is your stuff gets better the more I hear it.

00:05:36.000 Even the greats, like Richard Pryor, I can only listen to one of his bits once, not twice in a row, not three times in a week.

00:05:43.000 I could take one of your songs and just slap it on repeat and enjoy it more.

00:05:48.000 I've come to your window so many times.

00:05:50.000 That just scares me now.

00:05:52.000 Yeah, I'm very lucky that my art form is more like I can write a song, I can record it, and in that moment I can put it there and bring me some water.

00:06:02.000 There you go.

00:06:02.000 And then, you know what, 20 years later, oh my gosh, I get to sing it again and I can put all kinds of new stuff.

00:06:07.000 I can do whatever I want with it.

00:06:09.000 And people want it.

00:06:11.000 Yeah, they pay money to hear it. 1.00

00:06:14.000 It's like with comedy, you have to always keep coming up with new shit. 0.99

00:06:19.000 Be funny, dude. 0.99

00:06:21.000 It doesn't last.

00:06:22.000 You can't redo bits from decades past, but a great song that comes out, man, that's permanently great.

00:06:31.000 And better with time.

00:06:32.000 Cool.

00:06:33.000 It's a weird feeling to be a person who knows nothing about music.

00:06:38.000 That's who I am.

00:06:39.000 Really?

00:06:39.000 I know zero.

00:06:40.000 Nothing.

00:06:40.000 Don't even play any instrument?

00:06:41.000 Nope.

00:06:42.000 Can't play anything.

00:06:43.000 When I look at music written down, I never investigated it, even for a second.

00:06:49.000 But I love music.

00:06:50.000 I love to listen to it.

00:06:52.000 So I look at people like you as almost like, what you do is, it's like a form of magic or something.

00:06:57.000 The ability to make awesome noise.

00:06:59.000 Well, it used to be alchemical in that it was sacred, music was, because if you look at the nature of the universe and reality and you break it down into quantum physics, it is a reality that is based on octaves and dimensions.

00:07:14.000 So if you understand music, you can understand.

00:07:17.000 It's one of the reasons why I understand the nature of reality so much.

00:07:20.000 This is what happened like eight, nine years ago.

00:07:23.000 And once you get To understand that we are all octaves.

00:07:28.000 We are all instruments.

00:07:29.000 We are all vibrational beings.

00:07:32.000 Then you understand, oh, music.

00:07:33.000 That's why music will never, ever go away.

00:07:35.000 That's why it resonates so much. 0.99

00:07:36.000 Yeah, for a lot of people that hear that kind of talk and they go, oh, goddammit, you just hit my hippie bullshit button. 1.00

00:07:41.000 I know! 1.00

00:07:42.000 You're resonating.

00:07:43.000 What are you?

00:07:44.000 You're resonating?

00:07:45.000 Beings or something?

00:07:46.000 Vibration.

00:07:47.000 What the hell does that mean?

00:07:48.000 You know what?

00:07:49.000 And they...

00:07:50.000 Absolutely, they live there.

00:07:51.000 I have an understanding and a belief, and we're all just made up of our beliefs, and I walk with my hippie understanding belief and go on with it.

00:08:01.000 I think there's obviously, it's a beautiful and imaginative concept that But there's sort of clear evidence that there's something there.

00:08:12.000 Say if you're in your car, and that riff of Back in Black comes on the radio, and it was just the perfect sound at the perfect time.

00:08:21.000 Maybe you're bored or whatever, you're annoyed by something, and then...

00:08:26.000 Like your whole body, like...

00:08:29.000 It's just like, that song is so good, it fires you up.

00:08:32.000 There's certain...

00:08:33.000 There's a certain feeling that it does to your body that if you could just buy that, man, it would be very, very, very valuable.

00:08:40.000 You are looking for that, aren't you?

00:08:42.000 I think everybody is.

00:08:43.000 If you could – I mean I'm super inspired by music and I think one of the reasons being because I don't understand it and because – I don't play it.

00:08:52.000 I can't create it.

00:08:53.000 So when I see someone that can, to me, it's like, wow, it's like this totally different thing than what I do. 0.95

00:09:00.000 But I get to see the same sort of energy that makes anyone great at any art.

00:09:06.000 I love seeing it expressed through different mediums, that pure, I mean, I hate using that word again, but that resonance of expression, you know, whatever it comes with, that burst.

00:09:17.000 It shows the world, whatever it is, whether it's in a song or whether it's in a sculpture.

00:09:22.000 I love seeing it.

00:09:24.000 I love seeing it in all forms.

00:09:26.000 You can go look at it scientifically, and I'm just going to use the word vibrational, because if you study scientifically, not even hippie-wise, if you study quantum physics, you'll understand the vibrational nature of The universe,

00:09:43.000 and so art gives off a vibration.

00:09:47.000 Absolutely, you can break it down.

00:09:48.000 They have little machines that can show if someone's looking at a picture and they have a feeling, you have a vibrational, energetic change inside of you as a reaction to that.

00:10:01.000 Wow, that's amazing.

00:10:02.000 They actually just had something the other day, I think yesterday, where they showed the first thought, like where the brain of a, I think it was a rat, They could visually see a thought.

00:10:17.000 I'll try to find it, but it was really badass.

00:10:18.000 I know they've been able to figure out how to take an image of what you can see.

00:10:27.000 Simple shapes, a simple triangle and simple squares.

00:10:31.000 They've been able to take images.

00:10:34.000 That's reading your mind, essentially.

00:10:36.000 That's the beginning, right?

00:10:38.000 I believe it's the whole experience of all of us understanding that thought creates.

00:10:43.000 And that's what all of this is made of.

00:10:45.000 Yeah.

00:10:46.000 Is thought.

00:10:46.000 That's a weird thing for people to wrap their head around.

00:10:48.000 And what I always try to say is like, you know, everybody looks at the imagination as almost as if it's not necessary.

00:10:54.000 But you know what I mean?

00:10:56.000 He's a childish one with his wild imagination, you know, and that sort of term.

00:11:01.000 What people don't understand is that's what created everything.

00:11:05.000 Everything hard, everything you can touch, everything you get in and fly, everything you drive around in, that's all coming from imagination.

00:11:12.000 It started with a thought.

00:11:14.000 Yes, all of it.

00:11:14.000 Everything that we've created, good or bad, is coming from imagination.

00:11:18.000 The idea that we don't put a lot of respect in that and that we don't look at that as being this – that's the real sort of sacred creator of the universe.

00:11:28.000 Absolutely.

00:11:29.000 Creation.

00:11:29.000 Absolutely.

00:11:30.000 And it starts with our own responsibility, what we create for ourselves every day.

00:11:34.000 And that's difficult because people want to blame.

00:11:36.000 They want to say, oh, this happened to me because of that person or because I don't have enough money or I don't have enough love or whatever it is, that blame.

00:11:45.000 And it's hard to look at your own creation and what you created every day.

00:11:48.000 We're so malleable.

00:11:50.000 And if I think we grow up in the wrong environments, it's very easy to also raise children in the same environment and repeat this really fucked up pattern where no one has ever stopped the train and said, okay, let's look at the patterns that we operate under.

00:12:06.000 And how many of these are beneficial?

00:12:07.000 What are we doing? 0.97

00:12:08.000 Like, why are we living the same goddamn way and everybody's miserable? 0.98

00:12:11.000 Let's just stop and think this through. 0.97

00:12:13.000 And no, let's not yell at each other.

00:12:15.000 I don't want to be yelled at.

00:12:16.000 You don't want to yell at me.

00:12:17.000 I don't want to yell at you.

00:12:18.000 Great.

00:12:18.000 Okay.

00:12:19.000 We agree to that.

00:12:19.000 We love each other.

00:12:20.000 We won't yell.

00:12:21.000 Now, let's think things through. 0.99

00:12:24.000 What the fuck are we doing on this planet together? 0.99

00:12:26.000 We're enjoying our company. 0.99

00:12:28.000 We're creating.

00:12:29.000 And we can do that or we can just create chaos and create problems everywhere we go if we repeat the same patterns.

00:12:36.000 Which we're like to do if somehow or another it doesn't reset itself.

00:12:40.000 Exactly.

00:12:41.000 I actually feel like we're in a big resetting right now.

00:12:46.000 I can feel it.

00:12:46.000 I can start to see it in the people around me.

00:12:48.000 Just that there's a way that you can reach anybody who'd like to listen to.

00:12:54.000 You can do that right now.

00:12:56.000 That is different.

00:12:57.000 Ten years ago you weren't available like this.

00:13:00.000 Yeah, no.

00:13:00.000 Ten years ago there was nothing like this.

00:13:02.000 No.

00:13:02.000 You would have to...

00:13:03.000 To put it on a radio show, they would put you in jail.

00:13:06.000 Yeah, make the crazy joke when he's lost it all.

00:13:08.000 No.

00:13:09.000 They would tell you you're out of your mind for almost everything.

00:13:11.000 You're talking about illegal drugs.

00:13:13.000 I know.

00:13:14.000 I was listening the other day, or reading rather, about the Hollywood sign.

00:13:19.000 You know the Hollywood sign used to be Hollywoodland?

00:13:21.000 Yeah.

00:13:22.000 And at one point in 76, somebody got up there and made it Hollyweed.

00:13:28.000 Because they passed some decriminalization law in California.

00:13:32.000 It was so close to being legal nationally during Carter's administration.

00:13:36.000 Wow.

00:13:37.000 So close.

00:13:38.000 If you really look into the journey of cannabis, it's criminal and it's what they've done to this natural product. 0.98

00:13:49.000 It's ridiculous. 0.98

00:13:50.000 It's really bad. 0.97

00:13:52.000 And the people that are trying to keep it illegal are the people who could benefit from it the most.

00:13:57.000 Oh, isn't that...

00:13:58.000 Those people all need to get high. 0.98

00:14:00.000 It's like, yes!

00:14:01.000 That's why I love when Colorado, when Denver and Colorado was doing that thing, making it legal, they're saying, look, it's just better than...

00:14:08.000 You're not going to get in a fight.

00:14:09.000 You go to the bar and you have a smoke, you're going to be chill.

00:14:14.000 You're not going to cause damage.

00:14:15.000 Yeah, you're not going to just become a crazy person who can't even drive.

00:14:20.000 You know, that's unbelievable that almost everywhere in America are these spots where you can get fueled up with a drug that makes your body not work so well.

00:14:29.000 And we're fine with that.

00:14:31.000 Get in your car.

00:14:31.000 Get in your car, and of course we don't want you to drunk drive, and we prefer you take cabs, and we always say that.

00:14:36.000 However, the possibility is always there. 0.95

00:14:39.000 You're talking about a drug that massively inhibits your thinking process and makes you do really irrational shit, and you're combining it with the access to a car.

00:14:48.000 I mean, the idea that people see through that. 0.98

00:14:50.000 Our society was built on that.

00:14:52.000 It's that worker society.

00:14:54.000 Keep them on the caffeine and the sugar and the alcohol.

00:14:58.000 Boom.

00:14:59.000 Do you think it's a self-fulfilling sort of a thing?

00:15:01.000 Because those things are all awesome.

00:15:03.000 That's the problem.

00:15:04.000 I know.

00:15:04.000 I love them.

00:15:05.000 Caffeine is awesome.

00:15:06.000 Sugar is awesome. 1.00

00:15:07.000 Alcohol is the shit. 1.00

00:15:09.000 It's all good stuff. 1.00

00:15:10.000 So, I mean, is it possible that we just like it?

00:15:14.000 A big part of it, caffeine changed the world, and sugar too.

00:15:17.000 It was what brought industry to Britain, and that's why colonialism happened.

00:15:23.000 That's why they conquered the world, so they could bring spice and taste and sugar. 0.98

00:15:27.000 And in the 1800s, the British doctors were like, Whoa, wait a minute.

00:15:32.000 We're seeing all these new diseases now because of sugar.

00:15:34.000 It's a drug, it's a drug.

00:15:35.000 And they were like, hmm, too late.

00:15:37.000 It's over.

00:15:37.000 Yeah, once they had figured out how to extract sugar from natural products, and then you can get these massive doses of it right into your bloodstream.

00:15:46.000 Like, if you eat spoons of sugar...

00:15:48.000 Have you seen your kids?

00:15:50.000 They get a little, oh, we got a cupcake at school, and they lose their minds.

00:15:53.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:54.000 I gave my little one cotton candy yesterday.

00:15:57.000 She went off.

00:15:58.000 She went off.

00:15:59.000 She only weighs like 30 pounds. 1.00

00:16:00.000 She had like a pound of cotton candy. 0.98

00:16:01.000 See, it's tough.

00:16:02.000 It's tough.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, it's a drug.

00:16:04.000 It's for sure a drug.

00:16:05.000 And it wrecks our immune system.

00:16:07.000 Sugar just totally wrecks our immune system, and that's why a lot of us are so sick.

00:16:11.000 Yeah, it's really close to like a toxin.

00:16:13.000 Yes.

00:16:14.000 I mean, there's a lot of people that are trying to say it's a toxin.

00:16:16.000 So I fed my baby a delicious toxin.

00:16:19.000 But she's fine.

00:16:21.000 They're so available.

00:16:22.000 And they do bounce back. 1.00

00:16:23.000 It's fucking cotton candy. 0.99

00:16:23.000 The kid's going to want it. 0.99

00:16:25.000 Yes, they are.

00:16:25.000 She can't have it every day.

00:16:26.000 No.

00:16:27.000 Every day you eat healthy. 1.00

00:16:28.000 But every now and then, if you're at Disneyland, fuck it. 1.00

00:16:30.000 It's time to go off. 1.00

00:16:31.000 To go.

00:16:32.000 They sell cotton candy machines at Target for the kids.

00:16:35.000 Oh, a machine?

00:16:36.000 Yeah, they're these little machines.

00:16:37.000 They're like 50 bucks and you make your own cotton candy.

00:16:40.000 Oh, dude.

00:16:41.000 That's so wrong.

00:16:42.000 I know.

00:16:43.000 That's just pure sugar.

00:16:45.000 And they put them in front of TV and we've brainwashed them and then it's all good.

00:16:49.000 Yeah.

00:16:50.000 And they're ready to be plugged in.

00:16:52.000 Unfortunately.

00:16:54.000 But TV's awesome too.

00:16:55.000 That's also a problem.

00:16:56.000 See?

00:16:57.000 Exactly.

00:16:57.000 See, I am not a – I'm not going to do any of this.

00:17:02.000 I believe in all of these things in moderation.

00:17:04.000 It's all about balance because I don't want to be the other way.

00:17:07.000 I don't want to be – I'm not going to do this and this and this because those things are fun and they're beautiful and they add taste and spice to life.

00:17:14.000 And I want that balance and it's just about balance.

00:17:17.000 Yeah, it's a moderation thing, right?

00:17:19.000 It's like figuring out how to ride the waves.

00:17:22.000 Not be addicted to it, not be a victim to it.

00:17:25.000 But also enjoy a little TV every now and again. 0.99

00:17:28.000 Damn, some good shows on. 0.99

00:17:29.000 Like, what's wrong with you? 0.99

00:17:31.000 It doesn't mean that you're shutting off the world.

00:17:33.000 I think that it's not an either-or situation.

00:17:36.000 I think if you know what you're being manipulated by when you see an advertisement or you understand the manipulation behind it, what they are intending, if you know that, then you can be safe and go in.

00:17:51.000 But if you go in and just watch mindlessly, you will be swept away in it.

00:17:56.000 Yeah, it's like a balance issue, right?

00:17:57.000 Yeah, I think.

00:17:59.000 You just got to figure out how to do it.

00:18:00.000 How do you do it?

00:18:01.000 How do I do it?

00:18:03.000 It's a constant practice every single day.

00:18:06.000 It started when I went through breast cancer. 1.00

00:18:09.000 It's that sort of, oh, fuck, I could die. 1.00

00:18:12.000 You know, right? 1.00

00:18:12.000 Uh-oh. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Wait a minute.

00:18:13.000 This is serious.

00:18:14.000 And I had this – I actually ate.

00:18:19.000 It was one of those – you're talking about – before we went on, you're talking about cannabis and actually the difference between smoking it and eating it.

00:18:25.000 And I'd eaten a couple of cookies, and they were, of course, delicious.

00:18:28.000 I had a bit more than I should.

00:18:31.000 And I had one of those really severe trips.

00:18:35.000 And in that came a very clear understanding of the nature of life, of balance.

00:18:44.000 And I came back, went through breast cancer.

00:18:48.000 I went through the system.

00:18:50.000 I did the chemo.

00:18:51.000 I was all bald.

00:18:52.000 I did all that, and I got out of it going, wait a minute.

00:18:55.000 While I'm in this, every doctor I had kept saying, cancer starts when cells go bad.

00:19:01.000 And I go, okay, well, why do cells go bad?

00:19:03.000 And none of them would answer me.

00:19:04.000 None of them had that answer.

00:19:05.000 Because that's the way our medical system is set up.

00:19:07.000 And this has been a journey of finding out why did my cells go bad.

00:19:11.000 Why did they go bad?

00:19:13.000 It was my nutrition.

00:19:14.000 It was my stress.

00:19:15.000 It was I didn't drink enough water.

00:19:17.000 It's very simple stuff.

00:19:18.000 And it's about an emotional imbalance.

00:19:21.000 We've got to bring emotion back into balance in the body.

00:19:25.000 Yeah, it's as much of a factor, I believe, as all the other things in your body.

00:19:30.000 Your blood, your tissues, your bone.

00:19:32.000 I think your emotional health.

00:19:34.000 is as important as your biological health, the health of your actual body.

00:19:40.000 They're connected.

00:19:41.000 Yes.

00:19:42.000 Unfortunately, it was the Catholic Church in 400 A.D. when Descartes decided that he went to the church and he said, I want to study medicine.

00:19:51.000 I want to study the human body.

00:19:54.000 And they said, okay, you can study.

00:19:55.000 It wasn't medicine yet.

00:19:56.000 He invented medicine.

00:19:57.000 They said, okay, you can study the body, but the emotion and soul, that stays with the church.

00:20:02.000 And that's one of the reasons why this break happened.

00:20:05.000 And all of our great thought and intention and the smartest of us for hundreds of years have only developed the body separate from emotion.

00:20:16.000 And we are now seeing that break down.

00:20:19.000 Our whole system, our whole healthcare, everything.

00:20:22.000 Because it's just not true anymore.

00:20:25.000 Emotion plays.

00:20:28.000 My belief is it plays almost all the part of disease, dis-ease.

00:20:33.000 Wow. 1.00

00:20:34.000 But what about like little children with horrible disorders, like that kind of shit? 1.00

00:20:38.000 Well then you have to get into... 1.00

00:20:42.000 This is where it talks about we are here to create.

00:20:47.000 This is where we talk about we are here to create.

00:20:49.000 We are here to work through whatever we've decided.

00:20:54.000 This gets into real spiritual stuff, the stuff before, and it all depends on your basic belief.

00:21:00.000 My belief is all of us create what we need to work through to create and learn what we need to in this world.

00:21:09.000 So I can't look at anyone as a victim.

00:21:12.000 I can't even a child.

00:21:14.000 I don't blame them.

00:21:16.000 I don't say this is your fault.

00:21:18.000 I say you made an agreement in this place to do this and I'm sending you all my love and I believe in you and I believe that you will you can be a miracle.

00:21:35.000 When you say that, do you mean that when you see someone who has a disability, you don't see it as a disability, you just see that they're just another entity in this life and just go forward with love and it all works out, in the long run, it all works out great anyway?

00:21:50.000 Is that what you mean?

00:21:52.000 Yes, and it's what you deem works out in the end because a lot of people have different ideas of what that is.

00:22:00.000 I have tons of people that come to me who are stage 4 cancer and the doctors have said, there's nothing we can do, you're going to die in a few weeks.

00:22:08.000 And they come to me all the time in cities all over the world.

00:22:12.000 And I want to, and I try, and sometimes it works.

00:22:17.000 Sometimes their belief is...

00:22:19.000 I just give them another way of looking at it.

00:22:23.000 If you have another perception other than cancer is something that happens to me and oops, I got it.

00:22:29.000 If you understand it as my body...

00:22:32.000 is on this journey and you're willing to dissect and break apart what am I eating?

00:22:40.000 What am I feeling?

00:22:41.000 What am I doing?

00:22:43.000 What do I need to change?

00:22:44.000 You can control cancer because it is a symptom.

00:22:48.000 It is not something that happens.

00:22:49.000 It is your own cells.

00:22:51.000 I think?

00:23:04.000 Is it all environmental, though?

00:23:06.000 I mean, is it all emotional?

00:23:08.000 Aren't there some random genetic roles that dice, like kids that are born with massive birth defects and things along those lines?

00:23:15.000 Well, this is the lie.

00:23:18.000 It's how you hold reality and creation.

00:23:21.000 I believe that this reality is...

00:23:29.000 One of thought.

00:23:31.000 So whatever you are creating, whatever that massive deformity, that massive thing, it's theirs.

00:23:40.000 I'm not judging it.

00:23:42.000 I'm loving it.

00:23:43.000 I'm not seeing them as a victim either.

00:23:45.000 I don't believe something unjust happened to them, and I don't believe something just happened to them.

00:23:50.000 I believe that this is the balance of life, and we are all here to walk through it and make our choices.

00:23:57.000 Wow, that's heavy-duty stuff.

00:24:02.000 I mean, I think there's something to a person that has gone through what you've gone through physically, where you get to a real point where you're, you know, you're worrying about your body ending.

00:24:14.000 You're worrying about your trip being over.

00:24:16.000 And I think the insight that people that have been through those situations, it's really remarkable.

00:24:24.000 And it always makes me wonder why we can't wrap our heads around that without a crisis.

00:24:29.000 Yeah.

00:24:30.000 You know?

00:24:31.000 That's one of the reasons why I love to come talk to you.

00:24:33.000 That's why I want to talk because I would love to just have one person not have to get to crisis, but to go, wait a minute, that might be the path that I'm on.

00:24:46.000 Maybe this can help me.

00:24:47.000 Maybe it can, because when I was in it, I saw what the fear of death can do.

00:24:53.000 It holds everyone.

00:24:56.000 Cancer, I mean, I still see people, and it's been eight, nine years now since I was diagnosed and went through all that, and people still look at me like, are you dying?

00:25:05.000 You know, they still hold.

00:25:07.000 It's a powerful energy.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, it's a weird part of our life, a weird part of our journey, the body just sort of failing prematurely in some strange way where it's growing its own problem.

00:25:22.000 Well, that's or?

00:25:26.000 There is something, there is some choice that I am making.

00:25:30.000 My body is perfect.

00:25:31.000 Every single human body is amazingly perfect.

00:25:34.000 Right, but what about people with environmental factors, exposure to radiation, things along those lines?

00:25:39.000 Again, why are you there?

00:25:40.000 You are there because you made your...

00:25:42.000 And again, it's not about blame.

00:25:44.000 You chose this when you were just an angel or a spirit or whatever you want to call it.

00:25:49.000 Oh, so you believe they chose this life from another dimension.

00:25:54.000 Yeah.

00:25:54.000 I mean, you've been there.

00:25:55.000 I wonder.

00:25:57.000 Yeah.

00:25:58.000 I have and I haven't.

00:26:00.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:26:00.000 It's like the ideas from the psychedelic experience.

00:26:06.000 Yeah.

00:26:07.000 The ideas are very intoxicating, but I wonder how much of it is correct when it comes to things along those lines, like you choosing your own destiny.

00:26:19.000 Try letting go of the fear.

00:26:22.000 Try believing it.

00:26:23.000 Try believing it just once for one day.

00:26:25.000 Yeah, I could believe it.

00:26:26.000 But, I mean, I could disbelieve it too.

00:26:30.000 It's up to you.

00:26:31.000 It can be whatever you want.

00:26:33.000 I mean, you can, in that sense, if you believe something like that, it really can sort of create a reality for you.

00:26:39.000 Absolutely.

00:26:40.000 Very empowering.

00:26:41.000 And that was my choice.

00:26:43.000 I'm going to choose to walk like this.

00:26:46.000 And it's not easy, believe me.

00:26:47.000 Everything in a reality, you want to say, okay, except for that because that just happened to me and I'm just blaming that.

00:26:52.000 Well, I would really look at it that way if it wasn't for massive environmental issues, you know, toxic issues, things along those lines where... 0.98

00:27:01.000 People clearly, like a whole town gets cancer because there's a fucking factory nearby and they're throwing some shit in the lake and people don't know about it. 0.99

00:27:08.000 Absolutely. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Now go beyond that story. 1.00

00:27:10.000 Go there in 10 years and find out whose life was made better, whose life was changed, what happened.

00:27:18.000 Everything happens for a reason.

00:27:20.000 So you think – are you like a deterministic person?

00:27:24.000 Like you believe that the world moves in a way that you cannot control?

00:27:29.000 No.

00:27:29.000 No, again.

00:27:31.000 Again, it's slippery because, no, I don't believe – I'm not a fatalist.

00:27:35.000 I believe each and every one of us controls our own fate.

00:27:41.000 Reality.

00:27:42.000 Every single day.

00:27:44.000 Through every choice we make.

00:27:46.000 The choice of what to eat, what to think, how to feel.

00:27:51.000 A lot of us think we don't have a choice in how to feel.

00:27:54.000 Well, you hurt me, so I'm angry.

00:27:55.000 I don't have a choice.

00:27:56.000 You do.

00:27:57.000 Everything is choice.

00:27:59.000 And then, you know, you throw some spirituality on it and you get that everything's a choice just between love and fear.

00:28:04.000 And if you break it down that small into every breath, it's like a practice.

00:28:09.000 That's why the monks go live on the hill and all alone so that they can get to this perfect place of neither blame, you're not a judge, and you're not a victim.

00:28:19.000 You're just right in there in the middle.

00:28:21.000 Yeah, the monks essentially give up all civilization.

00:28:24.000 They give up life entirely.

00:28:26.000 No sex. 0.72

00:28:28.000 I would not want to do that at all.

00:28:30.000 I believe you can do that in this life.

00:28:33.000 As you were referring to earlier, balance.

00:28:35.000 To enjoy it all. 1.00

00:28:37.000 Yeah, I've always felt like monks are pussies. 1.00

00:28:39.000 You can't handle it, really. 0.99

00:28:41.000 I know relationships are tough, but if it wasn't for relationships, all the best music comes from relationships.

00:28:46.000 Hey, I'm living proof.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, I must, right?

00:28:49.000 Go back and listen to the greatest songs of all time. 0.99

00:28:51.000 It's always a guy and a girl talking about some shit. 0.99

00:28:54.000 Breaking up! 0.99

00:28:56.000 We thought we'd be together forever.

00:28:58.000 No, absolutely.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, I mean if it wasn't for that, where would all that beautiful art come from?

00:29:03.000 There's a yin and a yang to this crazy life.

00:29:05.000 Absolutely, and when you can hold on to that, it's neither going into all the fear nor all the love.

00:29:11.000 I'm not all airy-fairy.

00:29:13.000 If you can hold that middle, life gets really cool.

00:29:17.000 Yeah, if you can hold that middle.

00:29:20.000 How do you go about holding that medal?

00:29:21.000 Every single day.

00:29:22.000 It's a practice.

00:29:24.000 You stay in the now.

00:29:27.000 Did your personality change when this happened?

00:29:31.000 In a way, I let go a lot of personality reactions.

00:29:35.000 I believe that.

00:29:37.000 You call up who's sitting here today looking across the table at you.

00:29:42.000 I'm choosing who gets to answer this.

00:29:44.000 I would like 51-year-old Melissa to answer you, not 14-year-old.

00:29:50.000 14-year-old has answered, you know, in my relationships, 14-year-old Melissa.

00:29:54.000 She comes out and she says some pretty naughty things. 0.98

00:29:57.000 And that's who I can choose.

00:30:00.000 How to do it.

00:30:00.000 So it's this choice every day how I do it.

00:30:04.000 Yeah, that's a weird thing where we sort of get stuck in those young patterns.

00:30:08.000 The patterns are...

00:30:09.000 I mean, a lot of people do, though.

00:30:10.000 It's really, really common.

00:30:12.000 Every day I do.

00:30:13.000 Every day.

00:30:14.000 Oh, look, I'm doing it right now.

00:30:15.000 Oh, no.

00:30:16.000 That's how he always does it.

00:30:19.000 Yeah, you gotta...

00:30:20.000 Finding out how to manage your life is probably one of the most difficult things the person can accomplish in their life or...

00:30:29.000 Attempt to accomplish, I should say.

00:30:31.000 Isn't that what it's all about?

00:30:33.000 I want to come to you.

00:30:35.000 I want to come to listeners, everyone, as a person who...

00:30:37.000 I achieved my goal.

00:30:39.000 I set out in...

00:30:41.000 I was born in Leavenworth, Kansas.

00:30:43.000 I wanted to be a rock star.

00:30:44.000 I got to be a rock star.

00:30:46.000 I wanted to meet Bruce Springsteen.

00:30:47.000 I got to meet Bruce Springsteen, you know?

00:30:50.000 Those dreams came true.

00:30:52.000 Well, there's something that happens.

00:30:54.000 After those dreams come true, you realize, oh, I'm still me.

00:30:58.000 I still have all my problems.

00:31:00.000 So, where someone who might hold that big dream and think, well, I'll never get it, and so they just hold it out there.

00:31:09.000 And then they have lots of excuses.

00:31:11.000 Well, if I got that, then I'd be there, but I'm not.

00:31:14.000 I'd have enough money.

00:31:15.000 I'd have enough this or that.

00:31:17.000 Then you can get caught in the turmoil of life and always believe that, well, if I was famous or if I had more money, I'd be better.

00:31:26.000 Well, I'm here to tell you that the fame and the money, it's nice.

00:31:28.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:31:29.000 I love not having to wait in line.

00:31:34.000 Yet, it does not solve all my problems.

00:31:37.000 And it can cloud you in a little bit of confusion.

00:31:39.000 Oh, we see that every day.

00:31:41.000 Yeah, we've all met famous people or seen famous people wig out in certain ways where you're like, okay, you're being like a child.

00:31:48.000 You're feeling like a child's tantrum.

00:31:50.000 Yeah, because they're making choices to let that child still do that. 0.52

00:31:53.000 Yeah, and there's a weird imbalance.

00:31:55.000 There's a certain type, there's one type of celebrity, the I told you so celebrity.

00:32:00.000 And the reason why I call it that is they're the type that once they get famous, they feel like the whole world fucked them up until now. 0.98

00:32:10.000 And now that they've got the world by the balls because they're famous, they just really act shitty to people. 0.98

00:32:17.000 And I've seen that one. 0.99

00:32:19.000 That's a really shocking one.

00:32:21.000 And you put that out, and what you put out comes back.

00:32:23.000 And you just sit back and watch their world come down.

00:32:29.000 Yeah, it's hard enough getting through this life without acting like the world owes you something.

00:32:34.000 And that sort of delusional thinking among successful famous people is very, very odd.

00:32:40.000 Because that's like the furthest from the vulnerability of the reality of our biological life.

00:32:45.000 Right.

00:32:46.000 But it was the dream that we were fed.

00:32:48.000 I grew up in the 60s, in the 70s.

00:32:50.000 You want to do better than your parents did.

00:32:53.000 You want to make more money and buy things because that's the meaning of life.

00:32:57.000 Yeah, that's how you show you're successful.

00:32:59.000 Yeah.

00:33:00.000 Not management, not like health, not happiness, miles per hour.

00:33:05.000 No, no, all those things.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

00:33:07.000 Yeah, smiles per hour is probably very important.

00:33:10.000 I never thought of it like that, but that phrase, smiles per hour, like, you should probably have a lot of that.

00:33:15.000 A lot of smiles per hour.

00:33:17.000 You'll probably get off way better in life.

00:33:19.000 Yes, indeed.

00:33:20.000 That's so huge. 0.94

00:33:21.000 Like, laughter and having fun, so goddamn huge. 0.80

00:33:24.000 People that don't laugh about things, I just don't understand. 0.74

00:33:28.000 I don't trust them.

00:33:29.000 Yeah, well, yeah, there's emotional stunting sort of a thing to that, right?

00:33:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:35.000 Yeah.

00:33:36.000 How do you fix that?

00:33:40.000 You, again, take care of yourself.

00:33:42.000 You can fix yourself.

00:33:46.000 You cannot fix anyone else.

00:33:47.000 Isn't it funny how people who can't fix themselves try to fix other people? 0.97

00:33:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:52.000 There's a lot of those.

00:33:53.000 There's a whole lot of those.

00:33:55.000 I've been married to a few of those. 1.00

00:33:56.000 Those people are crazy. 1.00

00:33:57.000 They'll tell you what to do and you're like, look at your own life, bitch. 1.00

00:34:00.000 You're in your mind. 1.00

00:34:01.000 You're not happy and you're giving advice.

00:34:04.000 You're not happy and you're giving advice.

00:34:07.000 Once I realized I cannot fix anybody else.

00:34:10.000 No one else.

00:34:11.000 I became a much happier person myself.

00:34:15.000 You can't fix them, but you can rock their world with a song that changes the way they feel about life.

00:34:22.000 And even if only for a three or four minute song, even if it's only for that three or four minutes, the positive reaction that someone can get for something like that, that can affect their choices.

00:34:34.000 Absolutely.

00:34:35.000 Then you start seeing how it works.

00:34:37.000 Yeah.

00:34:37.000 When you had jobs, did you ever have jobs, like regular jobs back in the day?

00:34:42.000 Back in the day, yeah, a couple.

00:34:44.000 If you listened to a badass song before you went in for an audition or for an interview, you'd be in a better mood.

00:34:50.000 There you are.

00:34:50.000 You'd have a little pep to you, and they'd be like, I like this Etheridge girl.

00:34:55.000 She's got moxie. 1.00

00:34:57.000 She's got a lot of energy. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Exactly. 0.96

00:34:58.000 Yeah, because you had heard some fucking badass music in your car on the way over there. 0.96

00:35:03.000 It's vibrational. 1.00

00:35:04.000 Yeah, but that's hippie shit. 1.00

00:35:06.000 People don't want to hear that. 1.00

00:35:08.000 Balance, balance the hippie. 0.51

00:35:10.000 Bring your inner hippie out. 0.98

00:35:11.000 But the regular hippies are so annoying, they've ruined it for the hippie ideals. 0.97

00:35:16.000 See? 0.94

00:35:16.000 Again, it's about balance. 0.94

00:35:18.000 You stinky, lazy motherfuckers. 1.00

00:35:20.000 It's about balance. 1.00

00:35:22.000 Stinky, lazy hippies. 1.00

00:35:23.000 They have ruined the hippie culture. 1.00

00:35:25.000 But not a bounce of patchouli.

00:35:27.000 Not even a little bit of patchouli.

00:35:28.000 You don't like patchouli at all?

00:35:30.000 Patchouli and tea rose.

00:35:31.000 See, you say that, but if you met the most wonderful woman, she was sweet and sensitive.

00:35:35.000 And she smelled of patchouli.

00:35:35.000 She smelled of patchouli.

00:35:37.000 Patchouli would give you wood every time you smelled it.

00:35:39.000 I could get into rose water, but I can't drink it.

00:35:41.000 Rose water's nice. 0.97

00:35:43.000 The smelly hippie is a problem. 1.00

00:35:46.000 It's because a smelly human's a problem. 1.00

00:35:48.000 You're being ridiculous. 1.00

00:35:50.000 Silly bitch. 1.00

00:35:52.000 What are you covering up? 1.00

00:35:53.000 Why are you putting rocks under your armpits?

00:35:55.000 Get some deodorants.

00:35:56.000 Oh, now.

00:35:57.000 Don't get me started.

00:35:58.000 Just get some non-aluminum deodorant.

00:35:59.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:36:00.000 Non-aluminum.

00:36:01.000 Arm and hammer.

00:36:01.000 Arm and hammer is a natural deodorant.

00:36:03.000 It's like herbs and shit. 0.99

00:36:05.000 But don't put the aluminum under there. 0.99

00:36:06.000 But it works.

00:36:06.000 Yeah.

00:36:07.000 Aluminum's bad, right?

00:36:08.000 It's really bad, yeah.

00:36:09.000 Aluminum chlorhydrate.

00:36:11.000 And why were they putting it in deodorant?

00:36:14.000 Because the aluminum industry, 100 years ago when it first started, had a lot of waste that they needed to get rid of.

00:36:26.000 What?

00:36:26.000 So this aluminum waste became sodium fluoride, which was put in our water, and it was thought to use, oh, it'll keep us from sweating, which, I'm sorry, you're supposed to sweat, there's a reason.

00:36:42.000 Oh, so it's only antiperspirant, it's not deodorant, right?

00:36:44.000 Yeah, it doesn't do anything.

00:36:45.000 I don't mind sweating.

00:36:46.000 I just want to smell nice.

00:36:48.000 Yeah, you smell nice, you do.

00:36:50.000 Smelling radio, he smells very nice, girls, if there's any. 1.00

00:36:53.000 Thank you.

00:36:54.000 Thank you very much. 0.99

00:36:55.000 But stinky people, you should know you're stinky. 0.99

00:36:58.000 Okay? 1.00

00:37:00.000 Stinky hippies, you fucking lazy bitches. 1.00

00:37:02.000 Get up. 1.00

00:37:03.000 Get up.

00:37:03.000 Go run.

00:37:05.000 Water is everywhere and soap is not expensive.

00:37:08.000 Okay?

00:37:09.000 Go get crafty. 0.99

00:37:10.000 Take a shower.

00:37:10.000 And you can use defense soap.

00:37:11.000 It's natural.

00:37:12.000 Okay?

00:37:13.000 It's a great soap that has like...

00:37:15.000 Tea tree oil in it and eucalyptus oil.

00:37:18.000 It's all natural.

00:37:19.000 It's good.

00:37:19.000 It's good for the skin.

00:37:21.000 It keeps you from getting ringworm and stuff like that.

00:37:24.000 Are you talking to someone specifically?

00:37:26.000 Yeah, unfortunately, grapplers.

00:37:29.000 Anyone who practices jujitsu has to deal with ringworm.

00:37:33.000 Oh, wow.

00:37:34.000 Yeah, it's really common.

00:37:35.000 As well as staph.

00:37:36.000 You can get staph infections, too.

00:37:38.000 Sure, sure.

00:37:39.000 I've had ringworm a couple times.

00:37:41.000 I've had staph twice.

00:37:43.000 Jeez.

00:37:43.000 Yeah.

00:37:44.000 Once I caught it like really early so I didn't have to take antibiotics.

00:37:47.000 It took like a topical, but once it got pretty bad.

00:37:51.000 It was weird.

00:37:53.000 I had to take these super strong antibiotics.

00:37:55.000 Which, careful, because if you look at people's, I believe my cancer started with, I took these super duper antibiotics.

00:38:02.000 It's actually the stuff, Accutane.

00:38:05.000 I had really bad acne because I was out of balance in the beginning.

00:38:09.000 And then I took a whole bunch of the super duper antibiotics.

00:38:13.000 Those also are killing everything good inside of you.

00:38:16.000 Yeah, people don't understand that, right?

00:38:18.000 No.

00:38:18.000 People, when you do rounds and rounds of antibiotics, you are really knocking yourself down.

00:38:22.000 If you have a diagnosis of cancer, look in your past.

00:38:27.000 Was there a time?

00:38:28.000 Did you do the antibiotics right before it?

00:38:31.000 Because it compromises the immune system.

00:38:34.000 But when you have a big infection, like a stab infection, you kind of have to take it, right?

00:38:39.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:40.000 You really do have to.

00:38:43.000 Antibiotics, great for...

00:38:44.000 So then you have to put probiotics back in your system?

00:38:46.000 Totally, and you have to really be aware of your acid and alkaline balance inside of you because that's what keeps your immune system.

00:38:54.000 So a lot of green leafy vegetables and probiotics, acidophilus, things along those lines.

00:39:00.000 No gluten, no sugar.

00:39:01.000 Yeah, that gluten-free, where the hell was that 10 years ago?

00:39:05.000 Was there any gluten-free food?

00:39:08.000 20 years ago.

00:39:09.000 Was there any?

00:39:09.000 No, hardly any.

00:39:10.000 Well, because in the last 20 years, what has genetically modified our wheat, and it's become just this unedible food.

00:39:20.000 The real problem with that is that lasagna is delicious.

00:39:25.000 I can bring you a gluten-free lasagna.

00:39:28.000 Gluten-free pizza now.

00:39:30.000 I had some Sunday for Super Bowl.

00:39:32.000 I did, I did.

00:39:32.000 Don't make me go Joey Diaz on you guys.

00:39:35.000 Fucking gluten-free lasagna. 0.99

00:39:37.000 What are you talking about, people? 1.00

00:39:39.000 Gluten-free lasagna just seems like a mess.

00:39:42.000 It's good.

00:39:43.000 I don't want no part of that.

00:39:44.000 I don't want to be pretending that I'm enjoying it.

00:39:47.000 I'm just going to bring you some pasta.

00:39:50.000 Isn't it a balanced...

00:39:51.000 I like regular pasta, though, unfortunately.

00:39:53.000 I've tried...

00:39:54.000 I eat Ezekiel pasta, and I eat it because it's healthy for you, sprouted green pasta.

00:39:59.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 Is that not healthy?

00:40:00.000 No, that is.

00:40:01.000 But again, the taste is like, ooh, wow, you are giving up a lot.

00:40:04.000 It's a little rough.

00:40:04.000 Yeah.

00:40:04.000 You can...

00:40:06.000 Find the balance.

00:40:08.000 There's spelt.

00:40:09.000 Spelt is like a lesser wheat.

00:40:11.000 It's still a wheat, and it still will fluff up.

00:40:14.000 You can get spelt bread that's pretty good.

00:40:16.000 I don't believe you.

00:40:17.000 I'm going to show up here.

00:40:19.000 I'm going to bring a bag.

00:40:19.000 You said pretty good.

00:40:21.000 I'm like, not convincing, not buying it.

00:40:24.000 Why would I do that when I can get awesome, delicious bread?

00:40:26.000 I can make a sandwich out of fat Italian bread.

00:40:29.000 Oh, it'll be yummy, yummy, yummy.

00:40:31.000 I just feel like...

00:40:32.000 If you love it, yes.

00:40:33.000 I don't eat it a lot.

00:40:35.000 Yeah, good.

00:40:36.000 I'm pretty good.

00:40:37.000 You're balanced, absolutely.

00:40:37.000 But when it's there, I love it.

00:40:40.000 Linguini with clams.

00:40:41.000 Are you kidding me?

00:40:42.000 You have that?

00:40:43.000 Like real linguini. 0.99

00:40:44.000 Not some funky whole wheat pasta shit. 0.99

00:40:46.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:40:47.000 Whole wheat's still bad, right?

00:40:48.000 Yeah, that's full on bad.

00:40:50.000 That's crazy.

00:40:51.000 You're too hardcore for whole wheat.

00:40:52.000 I know.

00:40:53.000 You should start selling t-shirts.

00:40:55.000 I'm too hardcore for a whole week.

00:40:58.000 So, you're like, you must be like super organic then.

00:41:03.000 Well, again, it's balanced.

00:41:04.000 You would think, yes.

00:41:06.000 But you know what?

00:41:06.000 I have kids and they would run me.

00:41:08.000 I have teenagers.

00:41:09.000 They look at me like, Really?

00:41:10.000 Are you going to serve this for dinner?

00:41:12.000 Oh, that's right.

00:41:13.000 So it's about finding that in between.

00:41:16.000 You know what?

00:41:16.000 I searched and searched and I did find good gluten-free pasta that my kids don't even know that it's gluten-free.

00:41:21.000 Oh, now they do.

00:41:23.000 Oh, yeah, because they're listening to your podcast. 1.00

00:41:25.000 They're like, Mom, what the fuck? 1.00

00:41:27.000 They're going to be in trouble if they know. 1.00

00:41:28.000 I thought this was real spaghetti. 1.00

00:41:30.000 This is some hippie bullshit you're feeding me. 0.99

00:41:34.000 So I do try it. 1.00

00:41:35.000 It's about a balance.

00:41:35.000 It's about doing at least 70% alkaline or the whole foods.

00:41:39.000 And 30%, you know what?

00:41:41.000 Yeah, I had a pizza Sunday.

00:41:43.000 It was Super Bowl football.

00:41:44.000 We'll have a pizza.

00:41:45.000 Pizza's delicious.

00:41:46.000 Come on, it is. 1.00

00:41:47.000 If you have a diet and it doesn't include pizza, you can go fuck yourself. 1.00

00:41:49.000 There's something wrong with you, right? 1.00

00:41:50.000 See? 1.00

00:41:51.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:41:52.000 That's dumb. 1.00

00:41:53.000 You can have pizza one day a week. 0.99

00:41:55.000 Yes.

00:41:55.000 How about one day a week?

00:41:56.000 Absolutely.

00:41:56.000 Have a cheat day.

00:41:57.000 Absolutely.

00:41:58.000 Do you know, a lot of athletes, they eat clean every day of the week except one day, and they'll have one day where they go bananas.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, because it helps you, because otherwise you don't go, you don't start, oh, I need this, I'll never have this again in my life.

00:42:11.000 And then you're up in the middle of the night having donuts.

00:42:13.000 You know who has amazing cheat days?

00:42:15.000 I just started following him on Twitter, The Rock.

00:42:18.000 Have you ever seen what that guy eats?

00:42:20.000 Dude.

00:42:20.000 Pull up some photos of what this guy eats.

00:42:23.000 He's a massive, massive human being.

00:42:26.000 And he works out like two or three times a day. 0.93

00:42:28.000 The dude's crazy.

00:42:29.000 He's very inspirational.

00:42:30.000 If you're into exercise, if you go to his tweets, the guy's up at 3.30 in the morning doing cardio because he's got to be on a movie set at 6. Yeah, he's nuts. 0.93

00:42:38.000 He's super, super, super dedicated. 0.88

00:42:40.000 But he eats like really clean and healthy and he takes pictures of his food and then on one day a week he goes off.

00:42:46.000 And I'm talking like giant stacks of brownies and like a gallon of milk.

00:42:52.000 The dude had like a mug of milk.

00:42:54.000 Yeah, look.

00:42:54.000 Look at his cheat days.

00:42:56.000 Wow, look at all those pizzas.

00:42:57.000 Look at those pancakes.

00:42:59.000 Look, he's got four giant pizzas.

00:43:01.000 The dude goes off.

00:43:03.000 Look at the brownies and that mug of milk. 1.00

00:43:05.000 That is fucking insane. 0.99

00:43:07.000 And look, he's shredded. 1.00

00:43:09.000 The guy's got no body fat.

00:43:10.000 His kids all throughout the rest of the week, he goes bananas.

00:43:13.000 He's at the gym all day, practically.

00:43:15.000 Does movies and hits the gym.

00:43:18.000 I do it backwards.

00:43:19.000 Yeah, you do it. 1.00

00:43:20.000 You don't even do it backwards, bitch. 1.00

00:43:22.000 There's not a moment in your life where you live as much intensity as that guy. 1.00

00:43:25.000 Not even when you eat shit. 0.99

00:43:28.000 Doing it that way, he just must be like a battery. 0.99

00:43:35.000 Just like constantly going, like...

00:43:40.000 There's certain people that you've got to go, wow, what gets you going like this? 0.98

00:43:45.000 3.30 in the morning, you're doing fucking cardio? 0.91

00:43:47.000 If I had a 6 o'clock time where I had to be at work, I would get up at 5.58, put my shoes on, and show up. 0.99

00:43:55.000 I'm not going to fucking get up at 3.30 and do cardio. 0.98

00:43:59.000 Indeed. 0.98

00:43:59.000 I've never done anything as intense as that. 0.98

00:44:01.000 He works so much, though.

00:44:02.000 Maybe he doesn't have, like, relationships, so he has to do something.

00:44:05.000 So, like, working out's the only thing.

00:44:07.000 Because he works, like, nonstop.

00:44:09.000 He's on a movie set for, like, seven months and then to the next movie.

00:44:12.000 Yeah, well, everything I've read about him, everything, every interview, every, like, tweet he does, he seems, like, really thankful for all the good things that have happened to him.

00:44:22.000 And he works, like, he's got this attitude, work hard to get there, work harder to stay there.

00:44:27.000 So that's what I think it is.

00:44:28.000 I think he's just obsessed with it.

00:44:29.000 Gratitude is amazing.

00:44:32.000 Gratitude is a medicine.

00:44:33.000 You can change your life with gratitude.

00:44:34.000 You really can, right?

00:44:35.000 And as we were saying before about people who've had sort of near-death experiences and became very spiritual afterwards and really sort of understood life in a broader perspective, like that, choosing to look at life that way, it's kind of difficult for people to visualize without the real life-changing experience.

00:44:54.000 But if you could, You would see so many amazing things about life.

00:44:58.000 The whole thing is a beautiful mystery.

00:45:02.000 Yes.

00:45:03.000 And to hold it with less fear, then you have a less fearful life.

00:45:06.000 And realize that that energy that you're expressing on fear, you could be expressing on positive things and advancing your position in life.

00:45:15.000 Think of all that energy you've seen, yeah.

00:45:17.000 Yeah, advancing the way you interact with people and enhancing your relationships.

00:45:21.000 And advancing the way you approach whatever you do for a living and enhancing your creativity.

00:45:26.000 Think of how you think about your boss or someone that you work with.

00:45:29.000 The energy that you spend going, oh, there's such a...

00:45:31.000 That.

00:45:34.000 Next time that thought pops in your head, go, okay, okay, I know I don't feel that way, but I am grateful for that job because blah, blah, blah.

00:45:41.000 Or just, I'm grateful.

00:45:42.000 If you can find something to be grateful about your boss, that's even better because then you can kill that fear.

00:45:48.000 And turn it into love.

00:45:49.000 And I know it's all hippy-dippy, but that's what creates more of that positive vibration in your life.

00:45:57.000 You know what you can also do?

00:45:58.000 And this is very practical.

00:45:59.000 If you have someone in your life that you don't like and you have to work with them, use them as an exercise.

00:46:06.000 An exercise in your own patience.

00:46:09.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 And exercising your own ability to actually be kind to someone that is not being kind to you.

00:46:15.000 Because it gets really weird when you do that.

00:46:18.000 When you're kind to someone and they're not being kind to you, they get even more aggressive sometimes.

00:46:24.000 And they're almost like, They're stuck and they can't swim.

00:46:29.000 It becomes this weird sort of situation.

00:46:31.000 Fear and pain is an energy that people want to hook into you to release.

00:46:36.000 There's actually, again, you can look at energetically that I've got this going on.

00:46:41.000 Oh, there's somebody.

00:46:41.000 I can give it to you.

00:46:43.000 And if you react, if you react what I gave you, Then, oh, you've got it now.

00:46:49.000 I don't have it anymore.

00:46:50.000 I'm good.

00:46:51.000 So break that chain.

00:46:53.000 Don't react.

00:46:55.000 Respond.

00:46:56.000 Look at them and go, okay, where can I find gratitude or love here?

00:46:59.000 All right, I'm just going to...

00:47:00.000 You know what?

00:47:00.000 You've got a lovely tie and just move on.

00:47:02.000 Yeah, for some people, though, they're always at like a 7 or an 8 on a scale of 1 to 10 with being upset at things because they're sort of this almost momentum of chaos in their life from jobs to relationships to this to that to things.

00:47:18.000 They never have this moment where they can just stop.

00:47:21.000 Well, here's one.

00:47:24.000 When you start practicing living your life intentionally, understanding that it is all vibrational, then you start understanding that the people that come into your life are all part of your vibration.

00:47:40.000 So if there's someone in your life who is Always on to seven and eight and bringing it out and losing it and all that.

00:47:46.000 That's part of you.

00:47:48.000 And the only thing you can do, you can't change them, but you can go inside yourself and go, okay, where's the part of me that's afraid of that I'm over the top and then I'm losing it?

00:47:56.000 And you go in and heal that and then that person will disappear or they will change.

00:48:03.000 And I've done this for eight years now and I can say that that is exactly what happens.

00:48:07.000 How do you explain stalkers?

00:48:09.000 I don't have any.

00:48:10.000 Well, you don't have any, but other people do.

00:48:13.000 Because it's a fear.

00:48:14.000 You manifest it as a fear.

00:48:16.000 You are afraid that as sexual as you're being in a photograph or in a movie or something that someone's going to take that and take it wrong and come back and hurt you.

00:48:27.000 It's a fear.

00:48:29.000 That becomes very hippy-dippy when you're dealing with the reality of people actually being victimized.

00:48:35.000 It just depends on what your definition of reality is.

00:48:39.000 Wow.

00:48:40.000 You're really putting yourself out there and I really appreciate it.

00:48:43.000 I know.

00:48:43.000 I can only do it here.

00:48:44.000 It's such a weird way of looking at the world and a lot of people think that that strange, although non-judgmental, very non-judgmental way of looking at the world It's almost akin to like The Secret, like that kind of thinking.

00:48:59.000 The Secret is like the McDonald's of this movement, I would say.

00:49:04.000 I feel that a lot of people are starting to understand this on a very basic level.

00:49:08.000 Like, okay, if I... Just eat better.

00:49:11.000 I'm going to feel better.

00:49:12.000 Okay, food must have some sort of energy that makes me feel better.

00:49:14.000 And you start with that.

00:49:15.000 And then you realize the things that do make you feel better, make your day better.

00:49:20.000 And it's, again, it's not going to happen all in one day, but it is something that is happening on a very wide scale.

00:49:28.000 And it is the tipping point right now.

00:49:32.000 I think there's more people who, I think there's people at home going, oh, that's what I always thought, but I was just too afraid to say.

00:49:36.000 Yeah.

00:49:37.000 We have a model of the world, I think, that comes more from the media, from books and movies and TV shows.

00:49:46.000 That's sort of our model of how life goes because we see that almost more than we see our neighbors' lives.

00:49:52.000 We see that almost more than we see other people interacting with each other.

00:49:56.000 You think about how many hours people sit in front of the television watching television shows.

00:50:00.000 And it's almost, it becomes this very strange thing where fiction becomes almost the framework for the culture.

00:50:07.000 And it also, it's sort of like It becomes a strange issue where everyone has to wonder, where do the roots of all this come from?

00:50:16.000 Where's the roots of all this crazy behavior?

00:50:18.000 Are we creating this ourselves?

00:50:20.000 Is our media creating this world that we can't live up to, that we can't keep up with?

00:50:27.000 Unnatural interactions with each other, always perfect endings, the people that you're following through the whole movie never die.

00:50:33.000 What are you showing me here, man?

00:50:36.000 What are you showing me that's so influential?

00:50:38.000 Yeah.

00:50:39.000 And they're showing it to themselves.

00:50:41.000 As we said about the people who are in the movies themselves that get so crazy and delusional. 0.99

00:50:45.000 They are obviously caught up in whatever the fuck that is as well. 0.99

00:50:51.000 Yes. 0.97

00:50:52.000 And there's a lot of different roads of thought.

00:50:59.000 I've been down the David Icke.

00:51:01.000 I've read all that.

00:51:03.000 What do you think of that guy?

00:51:05.000 What's interesting is I started reading him about eight years ago and I read all this stuff.

00:51:09.000 You read all of it?

00:51:10.000 I know, can you believe it?

00:51:11.000 I needed to understand, if I was going to change my life, and I wanted to live too, I wanted to understand, to really understand this on a very, like a molecular level, I want to get this.

00:51:21.000 So I studied him.

00:51:23.000 And the beautiful thing was, is he deconstructed everything.

00:51:27.000 But doesn't he also believe in reptilians?

00:51:30.000 Yes, okay.

00:51:33.000 Yes, indeed.

00:51:35.000 Part of this whole thing is each of us is entitled to our belief.

00:51:41.000 And that's what his belief is.

00:51:43.000 And that's what his belief is.

00:52:05.000 And he even goes hippy-dippy and he gets to love.

00:52:07.000 He does.

00:52:07.000 Read his last book.

00:52:09.000 Well, I believe that a lot of people that have wacky ideas also can have very good ideas.

00:52:14.000 Yeah.

00:52:14.000 I mean, I think the idea that you can – I mean, that's the idea of taking someone's good work and connecting it to some bad work as if it negates the good work.

00:52:25.000 It doesn't really.

00:52:27.000 I look at the world again in balance and you can't have all good.

00:52:32.000 And the issue comes when you start labeling and judging what's bad and what is evil and then that's a whole...

00:52:41.000 But Homeboy does think that the ruling elites are lizard people.

00:52:46.000 That is an issue.

00:52:47.000 Okay.

00:52:48.000 That's an issue with thinking.

00:52:50.000 That's an issue where you gotta get...

00:52:51.000 And you know what?

00:52:52.000 He will present you with facts.

00:52:53.000 No, he won't.

00:52:55.000 I bet he won't.

00:52:57.000 Wouldn't you love to get David Icke to sit down with Neil deGrasse Tyson and have him tell him why there are not reptiles running this world?

00:53:08.000 It would be hilarious.

00:53:10.000 It would be fascinating. 0.99

00:53:12.000 But that is a fucking crazy belief. 0.99

00:53:15.000 There's all kinds of ways to look at it. 1.00

00:53:17.000 I believe in Bigfoot.

00:53:19.000 Not 100%.

00:53:20.000 You can break it down.

00:53:21.000 You can say the reptilian ancestors of ours are actually the whole darker side.

00:53:27.000 We've got, scientifically, our reptilian brain.

00:53:29.000 That's part of us.

00:53:30.000 That's the part of us that if we can imagine these horrible things that they have done, each of us has that inside of us.

00:53:37.000 Well, we're actually way worse than reptiles because reptiles just kill things and eat them. 0.98

00:53:40.000 They don't torture them and tie them to trucks and pull them apart from each other and do all sorts of shit that you can find every day on the internet. 0.99

00:53:46.000 Yeah, reptiles don't do that. 0.98

00:53:48.000 So to call us reptilian in a lot of ways, we are way cooler than reptiles, first off. 0.99

00:53:53.000 We're capable of amazing shit that reptiles can't even fuck with. 0.99

00:53:57.000 But if you get past that, I mean, reptiles are actually less cruel than us because reptiles don't kill for fun. 1.00

00:54:03.000 They kill to eat you. 1.00

00:54:05.000 They're there just to try to get by in life.

00:54:07.000 And they're programmed to not be emotional and think about things.

00:54:10.000 But if you're programmed to be emotional and think about things and you still choose to act that way, that's way worse than being a reptile.

00:54:16.000 Yes.

00:54:17.000 And then horrible things are going to happen to you.

00:54:19.000 I still hate reptiles. 0.73

00:54:20.000 I do not like them.

00:54:22.000 They're not my friends.

00:54:23.000 I don't trust anything that you can't train even a little. 0.98

00:54:29.000 You never fucking train a crocodile monitor. 0.98

00:54:31.000 You just keep feeding it until it's too stuffed so it doesn't want to bite you. 0.99

00:54:36.000 And they get used to you handling them, but they're never your buddy.

00:54:39.000 They don't care.

00:54:39.000 If you fell down right in front of them, they just start eating you.

00:54:43.000 Right? 1.00

00:54:44.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:54:45.000 A monitor? 1.00

00:54:46.000 A lizard?

00:54:47.000 I believe some of the reptilians are humans.

00:54:50.000 Oh, they came back?

00:54:52.000 You think so?

00:54:53.000 Yeah, like look at frog and toad.

00:54:54.000 You think there's interspecies sort of reincarnation?

00:54:57.000 Are you talking about Wind in the Willows?

00:54:58.000 What are you talking about?

00:54:59.000 You're so cute.

00:55:00.000 When you're talking about making the choice, like in another dimension, like a psychedelic dimension, making the choice to re-exist in this life and that you create your reality, do you think that people can be other animals?

00:55:14.000 Do you think that a life form is just a life form?

00:55:17.000 Are humans the only one with a soul?

00:55:18.000 No, no, no.

00:55:19.000 I think that this earth is a place of biological life and that it is a special place that all the other dimensional spirits can come and work through karma.

00:55:31.000 It's one of the only places where you can get through karma.

00:55:33.000 That's why I don't blame anybody for anything that is, quote, unquote, wrong with them.

00:55:39.000 So you think this is like a way station?

00:55:41.000 Yeah, I think this is a way station where you learn.

00:55:45.000 I think this is a life school.

00:55:46.000 This is a school.

00:55:48.000 Yeah, wow.

00:55:50.000 There you go.

00:55:51.000 That's fascinating.

00:55:54.000 What's really fascinating also is how...

00:55:56.000 Different people come to it at different levels.

00:56:00.000 They come to it from different starting points, economically and physically and geographically.

00:56:05.000 It's all about what you need to ascend.

00:56:08.000 We are all ascending. 1.00

00:56:10.000 Unless you're stuck in Africa in one of those shitty towns that doesn't even have water. 1.00

00:56:14.000 No. 0.99

00:56:15.000 Or they're so close to nature.

00:56:20.000 That's the cradle of civilization.

00:56:21.000 They've existed for millions of years.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, but they get eaten by lions.

00:56:26.000 It's true.

00:56:27.000 I'm not saying it's good or right.

00:56:29.000 I'm saying there's always a different way to look at everything.

00:56:32.000 I guess.

00:56:33.000 I guess every day that you don't get eaten by lions, you're scored.

00:56:36.000 There you go.

00:56:36.000 And you get that gratitude.

00:56:38.000 But then they eat like fly hamburgers.

00:56:40.000 You ever seen that?

00:56:42.000 Have you seen that?

00:56:43.000 See, I choose not to.

00:56:45.000 It's the craziest thing ever.

00:56:46.000 They eat like mosquitoes.

00:56:48.000 Mosquitoes, they make like a cheeseburger with mosquitoes.

00:56:51.000 They take them and they use a pan and the mosquitoes are so thick around them that they take these pans like it's a giant cooking pot and they throw it through the air and as they're swinging it through the air, it's killing these mosquitoes because they're hitting the back metal and they keep doing this over and over again and it sticks to the bottom and they scrape it up And then they fry it and make like...

00:57:12.000 They shake their face off and all the flies fall onto the mosquitoes.

00:57:15.000 I don't...

00:57:15.000 I guess...

00:57:16.000 I guess that's better than getting eaten by a lion.

00:57:18.000 I guess so, but...

00:57:20.000 But I don't know.

00:57:21.000 No, it's...

00:57:22.000 Yet, none of us can understand what that person is even going through.

00:57:27.000 When you look at all the poverty and all the terrible places on earth and the war and all the strife and all the things, and then you look at the good aspects of life and when people are cool to each other and kind and When you look at this big balance,

00:57:44.000 what do you see?

00:57:46.000 Do you see like a work in progress?

00:57:47.000 Do you see like a gym?

00:57:49.000 I see a beautiful creation that works so perfectly.

00:57:53.000 This whole reality is like a super mega biocomputer that is so brilliantly engineered that we can't even see it, that we don't even know we're in it.

00:58:04.000 We come here and we forget about it.

00:58:05.000 And when I look at the bat, I'm grateful for the whole experience.

00:58:12.000 I'm grateful for everything.

00:58:14.000 I'm learning.

00:58:15.000 I'm growing.

00:58:16.000 I'm creating.

00:58:17.000 That's all.

00:58:18.000 I can't feel their pain for them.

00:58:20.000 I can't take their pain away.

00:58:21.000 They are here to work through that and make their choices.

00:58:27.000 The issue also comes down to...

00:58:32.000 So educating more people to the idea that the reality that you choose to accept, the way your reality is in front of you at this very moment, what you can write on paper and take pictures of, that that is your life.

00:58:45.000 It's not.

00:58:46.000 This is just where you are right now.

00:58:48.000 Yeah.

00:58:49.000 This is what you're doing right now.

00:58:50.000 We are only aware of 4% of the whole energetic spectrum of energy that – again, I'm talking physics.

00:59:00.000 Only 4% of it can we see.

00:59:03.000 There's 96% of a whole energetic world that we are unaware of.

00:59:10.000 So it's kind of silly that – and this is, again, science, that we think that that 4% is everything.

00:59:16.000 Right.

00:59:17.000 Yeah.

00:59:18.000 Well, isn't there like a massive amount of the universe that they believe is dark matter and they don't even know exactly what that is?

00:59:26.000 Because what's happening, I think in the next 10 years, our own scientists, and it's already begun, they're starting to say, okay.

00:59:35.000 We are seeing that our universe is constantly expanding.

00:59:38.000 You've heard that, right?

00:59:39.000 Constantly expanding.

00:59:40.000 Well, that expansion is the creation, is us creating and intending.

00:59:44.000 That's the nature of our universe.

00:59:46.000 And as above, so below, so are we constantly expanding.

00:59:49.000 We are this great, huge mandala.

00:59:52.000 We're this...

00:59:53.000 Oh, there goes my brain.

00:59:57.000 See, I smoke too much.

00:59:58.000 LAUGHTER No, it's this hologram.

01:00:03.000 That's it.

01:00:04.000 And when you understand a hologram, a piece of a hologram contains the whole thing.

01:00:10.000 And that's how we are as human beings.

01:00:12.000 We are in this hologram.

01:00:14.000 A piece of a hologram is like a fractal?

01:00:17.000 Yes, it's a fractal.

01:00:18.000 Really?

01:00:18.000 I didn't know that.

01:00:19.000 Yeah.

01:00:20.000 And when you understand hologram and what it is, you'll understand that we live in a holographic universe.

01:00:27.000 Yeah, that was a book, right?

01:00:28.000 Somebody wrote a book called A Holographic Universe?

01:00:30.000 I started reading it, but I don't know what happened.

01:00:32.000 I got distracted.

01:00:34.000 It's a big piece of steak to digest.

01:00:37.000 The idea, though, is becoming more and more mainstream that the reality that we see in front of us might not be the entire picture.

01:00:45.000 Yes.

01:00:46.000 Let's just start there.

01:00:47.000 Let's just start there.

01:00:48.000 Yeah, but the issue comes when people get all, you know, either incredulous or hippy-dippy.

01:00:55.000 Yeah.

01:00:56.000 Either or.

01:00:56.000 You have to stay in the middle.

01:00:58.000 That's what's going to save us.

01:00:59.000 Is the people in the middle. 0.86

01:01:01.000 That's what I said about gays. 0.97

01:01:02.000 I was like, there's straights and gays, but it's the bisexuals that are going to save us. 0.80

01:01:05.000 Because they're going to go, you know what, I just want a choice. 0.98

01:01:08.000 Or they're just greedy.

01:01:09.000 Yes.

01:01:10.000 Do they double your numbers or my numbers?

01:01:12.000 I don't know.

01:01:13.000 Have you paid any attention to these recent ideas of computer simulation theory?

01:01:20.000 That the Earth is some or the universe itself is a simulation?

01:01:25.000 Well, it depends on how you look at it.

01:01:27.000 I do.

01:01:27.000 When you see, when you, as I have just studied the fractal, the nature, the nature of the universe, the quantum physics, the perfection is astounding.

01:01:42.000 And then you start to think, well, we as a human race are just trying to replicate what we see and so we've made computers.

01:01:50.000 And we are like, okay, this brain can't think that fast, but I can get this computer to think that fast.

01:01:56.000 And all of a sudden, these computers are starting to look like reality.

01:02:01.000 Wait a minute, maybe our reality is...

01:02:03.000 And then you walk away with, okay, it's just intelligent design.

01:02:07.000 And I'm not going to get outside of the game right now, so I might as well play the game.

01:02:12.000 I understand the rules now.

01:02:15.000 Whatever the design is, it seems pretty clear that there's, no question about it, there's some sort of a progression going on.

01:02:25.000 And there's a progression going on with human consciousness, with human innovation, but there also is a progression going on constantly in the universe.

01:02:33.000 New galaxies are forming.

01:02:34.000 New stars are forming.

01:02:37.000 It's very, very, very strange because to think that somehow or another it's all just happening.

01:02:43.000 Well, why?

01:02:44.000 What's going on?

01:02:46.000 What's causing it to happen?

01:02:47.000 Is it just – it just is?

01:02:49.000 Okay, but even it just is is unbelievably fascinating.

01:02:53.000 It just is.

01:02:55.000 You don't have to call it God, but it just is the force.

01:02:58.000 Behind hypernovas, the force behind black holes and the idea of fractal universes, it's the force behind the idea that inside every galaxy is a supermassive black hole with one half of 1% of the mass of the galaxy, and inside that galaxy may very well be a whole other universe with hundreds of billions of black holes and hundreds of billions of galaxies around them.

01:03:21.000 Yes.

01:03:22.000 And each one of them, another universe.

01:03:23.000 And you can go the other way.

01:03:25.000 You can go inside your body.

01:03:26.000 You can look at your cells and you can find exactly the same wonderment. 0.58

01:03:31.000 When they get to that string theory shit and they start talking about everything being strings that are vibrating at different frequencies.

01:03:39.000 It's all vibration. 0.95

01:03:39.000 And how much air there is even in like these atoms that make an oak tree. 0.95

01:03:43.000 This is all space.

01:03:44.000 Yeah, that space is the 96%.

01:03:46.000 The 4% is what our brains hold together in front of us so we can have this experience and create. 0.56

01:03:54.000 The idea that a rock is all space.

01:03:57.000 Well, it is.

01:03:58.000 Put it under a microscope.

01:03:59.000 You'll see it immediately.

01:04:00.000 Yeah, if you go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, you see that most of it is just, what is this?

01:04:05.000 It's just the way it's vibrating. 1.00

01:04:06.000 What's this crazy shit? 1.00

01:04:08.000 Study it. 1.00

01:04:08.000 It's just the way it's vibrating. 1.00

01:04:10.000 I never thought, I was never a school, I was always just music, you know, hanging out, whatever.

01:04:13.000 When I started actually reading about quantum physics, Ken...

01:04:17.000 Ken Wilber, really great.

01:04:20.000 He's, you know, based in science.

01:04:23.000 Bill Lipton, they're based in science and they're saying, look, this is the wonderment we found and we think it means more.

01:04:31.000 There's a gentleman who recently did an interview with Neil deGrasse Tyson who I should give him credit so people could look this up. 0.73

01:04:39.000 It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life coming from a scientist.

01:04:45.000 What he essentially said was that in the inner workings of quantum physics when they get to these badass crazy equations One of the things they found is self-correcting computer code.

01:04:56.000 And this self-correcting computer code was a type of code that was invented, they thought, in the 1940s. 0.90

01:05:04.000 And they found this very code In the calculations of quantum physics, I don't know what the fuck that means, unfortunately.

01:05:15.000 Well, it sounds like, clearly, we are discovering ourselves, and we're discovering the great code, the gigantic computer that is this beautiful Earth and is us.

01:05:26.000 Yeah, I guess.

01:05:29.000 But it just seems like even putting a label on it, it's one of the things that I've always felt like...

01:05:35.000 The gentleman's name is James Gates, and he's the one who discovered this computer code.

01:05:40.000 So just go...

01:05:42.000 Check it out and read it online because it's so crazy.

01:05:45.000 Wrap your head around this.

01:05:47.000 Doubly even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block code first invented in the 1940s has been discovered.

01:05:57.000 I mean, it literally is like The Matrix.

01:06:00.000 If this guy's right, it literally is like The Matrix.

01:06:03.000 Yes.

01:06:05.000 Come on! 0.61

01:06:06.000 Yeah, well, the idea is that if they were able to create a simulation, that it would be indiscernible from reality, and that what we might have already done, we might have already transgressed from the biological life into this symbiotic sort of computer life.

01:06:23.000 We just don't recognize it yet.

01:06:25.000 I think a lot of it is when you realize that you are creating what's in front of you, then you can get out of that game. 1.00

01:06:35.000 That's fucking ridiculous. 1.00

01:06:37.000 Try it! 1.00

01:06:38.000 I guess.

01:06:39.000 But the problem is, does it only work?

01:06:41.000 That's how I felt about The Secret.

01:06:43.000 I'm like, they're only interviewing winners.

01:06:45.000 I know losers who have tried The Secret.

01:06:46.000 There was a young lady who's a very nice person. 0.99

01:06:49.000 She's a friend of, what the fuck's her name, bro? 0.99

01:06:53.000 Kelly Kirsten. 0.99

01:06:53.000 Friend of Kelly Kirsten, she used to always come down to the Comedy Store. 0.99

01:06:57.000 And she was super positive.

01:06:59.000 And I remember she came down and she was telling us about The Secret.

01:07:03.000 You know, she just started doing The Secret, living her life by The Secret, and everything's amazing now.

01:07:08.000 And I can see how I'm gonna totally manufacture a completely new life.

01:07:13.000 And then I met them.

01:07:15.000 I didn't see her again for about two years.

01:07:18.000 And then I met them again at another comedy club.

01:07:21.000 And I'm like, and she was all bummed out.

01:07:23.000 And I go, how you been?

01:07:25.000 I go, what's going on?

01:07:25.000 Are you still into that secret thing?

01:07:27.000 And she goes, yeah, I really wanted to see if this makes sense to anyone else.

01:07:33.000 Because I've been doing everything they said. 0.99

01:07:35.000 And my life is a fucking wreck. 0.99

01:07:38.000 And she's like, and I have all these people in my life and I can't get rid of them and I can't get them to straighten their life out and I'm always dragged into this bad relationship over and over and over again and job sucks and work sucks. 0.99

01:07:48.000 I'm like, wow.

01:07:49.000 Absolutely.

01:07:49.000 You need to be in the secret too.

01:07:51.000 Yeah.

01:07:52.000 You need to like let people know you can't just think things and all of a sudden the world is going to be better.

01:07:57.000 That's why I call the secret the McDonald's.

01:08:00.000 It's a process.

01:08:01.000 It's the idea, which is great.

01:08:03.000 I love that they got the idea in there.

01:08:05.000 It takes practice because it is belief.

01:08:08.000 If you look at your life and you believe, oh, I don't have enough and I want this, you are coming from lack.

01:08:13.000 So you are creating lack.

01:08:15.000 It's a crazy...

01:08:20.000 Formula.

01:08:21.000 And how you think.

01:08:23.000 It's very hippy-dippy.

01:08:25.000 It is!

01:08:25.000 A lot of people must get upset at that kind of thinking.

01:08:27.000 Do you ever have arguments?

01:08:28.000 They don't come around me.

01:08:29.000 They don't.

01:08:32.000 Well, what they would go after is they would go after the idea of children with terrible diseases is their choice.

01:08:40.000 Absolutely.

01:08:41.000 That's what they would go after.

01:08:42.000 That is where it breaks down because people want to hold on to the thought that it is possible for something just to happen to you with no reason.

01:08:54.000 So do you believe that this life leads into another one and you do this life the best you can and then you reap the bounty in your next life?

01:09:02.000 My belief, no, no, because that's, my belief is this is a school, like I said, and that we are all ascending and there are those who've gone before us who have figured it out and overcame death, which is pretty intense.

01:09:18.000 That's a lot of work.

01:09:21.000 There are those who understand that death is a transition and they are done here with, okay, I've learned everything.

01:09:28.000 I'm ready to move on.

01:09:30.000 And there are those who choose death, game over, because, you know what, I can't quite figure it out.

01:09:36.000 I'm going to try it again.

01:09:37.000 Let me do it again.

01:09:39.000 Yeah, the transitionary phase for a lot of people was made easier by psychedelics.

01:09:46.000 Larry Hagman was doing an interview on CNN. It was really fascinating to see him talk about it.

01:09:53.000 And he was talking about how when he did acid, it released him from fear of death.

01:09:58.000 It completely released it.

01:09:59.000 So knowing that and knowing that he died recently, it was comforting knowing that that guy had that experience and had this different perception which really mellowed him out and made him kinder and gentler and sort of he saw it for what it really is.

01:10:15.000 Supposedly really is.

01:10:16.000 I mean, maybe he's just dead.

01:10:17.000 I don't know.

01:10:18.000 That's what a lot of people would like you to think.

01:10:19.000 His body is dead.

01:10:21.000 All spirits totally live on.

01:10:23.000 I mean, that's just... 0.98

01:10:24.000 Silly to not think that. 1.00

01:10:26.000 Silly. 1.00

01:10:26.000 Why would you choose? 1.00

01:10:27.000 Why would you choose to believe that this is it, and when the lights go out, that's it, and it's over forever and ever?

01:10:32.000 Why would you choose to believe that it's not, though?

01:10:35.000 Because why would you choose to believe that when you go to sleep, when you take a nap, you assume you're going to wake up.

01:10:40.000 Yeah.

01:10:41.000 But you're not afraid to just shut off.

01:10:43.000 Right.

01:10:44.000 Why be afraid anyway?

01:10:45.000 Right.

01:10:46.000 Why be afraid to just shut off?

01:10:47.000 It don't have to live forever.

01:10:48.000 Exactly.

01:10:48.000 You could just shut off, too.

01:10:49.000 That's right.

01:10:50.000 Really?

01:10:51.000 No.

01:10:51.000 When you overcome the fear of death, you really free yourself up.

01:10:55.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:10:55.000 Well, you've got to realize that it's going to suck. 0.98

01:10:58.000 One way or another. 0.99

01:10:59.000 You're probably going to die screaming. 0.86

01:11:01.000 And your body's going to fail. 0.96

01:11:02.000 If you believe.

01:11:03.000 If you believe.

01:11:05.000 But then the next things happen.

01:11:07.000 Well, if you're in a plane crash, did you manifest that?

01:11:11.000 Yeah.

01:11:11.000 You think so?

01:11:12.000 Absolutely.

01:11:12.000 Whoa.

01:11:14.000 I know.

01:11:14.000 Again, not blame.

01:11:17.000 Okay, not blame. 1.00

01:11:18.000 Maybe it's just one asshole in the plane that manifests that. 1.00

01:11:20.000 No, no. 1.00

01:11:23.000 What if he's the shoe bomber?

01:11:24.000 If there's a shoe bomber on your plane, did you manifest that?

01:11:28.000 Yes.

01:11:29.000 Wow.

01:11:31.000 Are you really sure of this?

01:11:32.000 Only you exist, Joe.

01:11:34.000 In my belief, I do believe.

01:11:37.000 And then I have to let go and go.

01:11:39.000 And I believe that I do not need that lesson.

01:11:42.000 I do not need to die terrifyingly in a plane crash.

01:11:46.000 I do not need that.

01:11:47.000 Right.

01:11:48.000 So I'm not even going to think about that.

01:11:50.000 That is not even a possibility.

01:11:51.000 When I board an airplane, I actually think this is because I fly a lot.

01:11:55.000 And for the first few years, I was a white knuckle.

01:11:59.000 Every little thing was like, oh, I'm going down.

01:12:01.000 You know, rock stars, airplanes.

01:12:03.000 So when I board an airplane now, I think, look at all these lucky people because there is no way this plane is going to do anything because that's not what I signed up for.

01:12:13.000 That's not the end of the Lifetime movie.

01:12:15.000 It's not.

01:12:16.000 Well, that is a very positive way of looking at life.

01:12:20.000 And if you're correct...

01:12:23.000 It's going to be amazing.

01:12:24.000 Yes.

01:12:25.000 I hope you're around.

01:12:28.000 Isn't it funny though?

01:12:29.000 Because even if your life was a masterpiece, people were like, she got lucky.

01:12:33.000 Exactly.

01:12:34.000 And that's belief.

01:12:35.000 If you choose to always believe that, so you look at my life, it's bad.

01:12:38.000 It will be bad. 0.92

01:12:39.000 The real problem with that is people believe all sorts of silly things.

01:12:42.000 And what I say to that is, yes, but the real issue is...

01:12:46.000 Have we shown that beliefs can change reality?

01:12:50.000 Yes, we can through the placebo method.

01:12:52.000 That's real.

01:12:53.000 That's scientifically measured effect where they've shown that they can give you something that is not physically active.

01:12:59.000 It's an inert substance.

01:13:00.000 And the idea of taking it for whatever reason, you believe that this sugar pill, which is actually poison, right?

01:13:06.000 Right.

01:13:07.000 Is doing something.

01:13:09.000 It's changing your life.

01:13:10.000 That's why I tell people when they come to me with cancer, I say, what do you believe?

01:13:13.000 Do you believe that this chemotherapy is going to help you?

01:13:16.000 Do you believe that?

01:13:17.000 Then go with your belief.

01:13:18.000 What about R. Kelly?

01:13:19.000 Because he believes he can fly.

01:13:20.000 Well, then there's that. 0.99

01:13:21.000 But then he does a lot of other shit that's really rude. 0.99

01:13:25.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:13:25.000 So I would look at the balance. 0.99

01:13:27.000 Yeah.

01:13:28.000 If R. Kelly could just stop peeing on people, maybe fly around a little bit.

01:13:32.000 Oh, that's so old.

01:13:33.000 I'm just saying.

01:13:34.000 He doesn't do that anymore?

01:13:35.000 You're saying, don't judge.

01:13:36.000 He's out of that space.

01:13:38.000 I don't know.

01:13:38.000 Are you an R. Kelly fan?

01:13:39.000 Do you stick out for all musicians?

01:13:41.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:13:42.000 I think people make their own reality in the world.

01:13:45.000 Are you aware of R. Kelly?

01:13:46.000 I am aware of him, yeah.

01:13:48.000 Have you ever watched any of his music videos?

01:13:51.000 I just watch Chappelle where they always make fun of him.

01:13:54.000 His unintentional comedy is amongst the greatest things the world has ever known.

01:13:59.000 Yeah, for real.

01:14:01.000 There's a video called Real Talk and you must watch it.

01:14:04.000 I will.

01:14:05.000 Preferably under medicated conditions.

01:14:07.000 Well, yes. 0.78

01:14:08.000 Because then the ridiculousness of it comes blaring at you like an awesome parody.

01:14:13.000 But it's not a parody.

01:14:15.000 I don't think.

01:14:16.000 I mean, he might be like parodying.

01:14:17.000 He's trying to be a little bit funny, but...

01:14:19.000 A lot of it is just, he's bananas.

01:14:22.000 Sort of like the Budweiser commercial yesterday.

01:14:23.000 Did you see the Clydesdale?

01:14:25.000 Did you watch the Super Bowl?

01:14:26.000 No.

01:14:26.000 I slept through the whole thing.

01:14:27.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:14:28.000 I'm a football fanatic. 0.62

01:14:29.000 It's a lesbian high holy day. 1.00

01:14:31.000 Are you really? 0.98

01:14:31.000 A lesbian high holy day? 0.98

01:14:33.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

01:14:35.000 Do a lot of lesbians get into, like, guy-type shit like that? 1.00

01:14:38.000 Yes. 1.00

01:14:38.000 Really? 1.00

01:14:39.000 My best friends are guys because I can relate. 1.00

01:14:43.000 Women are crazy. 1.00

01:14:45.000 Girls are crazy. 1.00

01:14:46.000 They are. 1.00

01:14:47.000 Oh, that's funny.

01:14:48.000 It's about the balance.

01:14:49.000 My father was a huge football fan and just adored my father.

01:14:54.000 He passed away when I was 30, but he was a football coach and basketball coach.

01:14:59.000 So I just, you know, I love that.

01:15:00.000 And I grew up in the Midwest and it was a big part of my life.

01:15:02.000 Is your team Kansas?

01:15:03.000 Oh, can you imagine?

01:15:05.000 The Kansas City Chiefs.

01:15:06.000 We are in dead last this year.

01:15:08.000 We have first round pick next year.

01:15:10.000 Well, maybe you chose that.

01:15:11.000 See?

01:15:12.000 Everything's a metaphor.

01:15:13.000 Life is a metaphor.

01:15:14.000 Watch me now.

01:15:15.000 I'm going to choose the best.

01:15:16.000 Choose the Patriots. 1.00

01:15:18.000 Get your shit together. 1.00

01:15:21.000 You can't. 1.00

01:15:21.000 Try manufacturing a great team in Kansas City. 1.00

01:15:24.000 There's not enough money in Kansas City, unfortunately.

01:15:26.000 Oh, but there's gratitude.

01:15:27.000 There's will.

01:15:28.000 I'm telling you.

01:15:29.000 Good luck.

01:15:30.000 There's giant black super athletes.

01:15:32.000 They're seven feet tall now.

01:15:33.000 They run a million miles an hour.

01:15:35.000 They're going to find them when they're ten.

01:15:36.000 They watch them the whole way and give them the right food.

01:15:39.000 There's guys to this day that are recruiting kids.

01:15:42.000 They go and get high school kids.

01:15:44.000 They find these white dudes that can shoot a penny that you throw in the air with a rock. 0.95

01:15:49.000 They can football like a piston. 0.91

01:15:51.000 They find these kids.

01:15:52.000 They find these running backs that have ungodly speed and they just keep a good eye on them and follow them through college.

01:16:00.000 So much money in football.

01:16:01.000 They'd be crazy not to.

01:16:02.000 The athletes that are being born today...

01:16:05.000 Look at the quarterbacks.

01:16:06.000 They're changing the game.

01:16:08.000 Just the technology in training athletes and the athletes, the realizations now of what's possible with various strength and conditioning programs and diet.

01:16:17.000 Stanford just came out with some glove.

01:16:19.000 This is really crazy.

01:16:21.000 It's a glove, a cooling glove that's better than steroids.

01:16:25.000 Okay?

01:16:26.000 It's legal, completely legal.

01:16:28.000 Somehow or another, they put your body in this glove, and the glove freezes, somehow or another, your body.

01:16:38.000 It cools you down.

01:16:39.000 And it cools you down in a way that lets you recuperate at an incredibly rapid pace.

01:16:44.000 Ooh, wow.

01:16:45.000 It's a complete new thing they figured out.

01:16:47.000 So people are going to be able to take this, they're going to be able to work out unbelievably hard, wear this cooling glove, and through no illegal methods, no unnatural drugs, just cooling their body, they're going to recuperate like crazy.

01:17:01.000 When they start working with the body's amazing properties to create a better body, that's when it's going to work.

01:17:09.000 Yeah, this is like a hijack. 0.93

01:17:10.000 They found a fuck-up with the system.

01:17:13.000 All you have to do is cool that body temperature down.

01:17:15.000 That's a thing they've been doing with ice baths as well. 0.60

01:17:18.000 That's something that didn't really exist that long ago.

01:17:21.000 But now, after training, a lot of guys do these crazy ice baths.

01:17:26.000 Oh my God, that's a hard idea.

01:17:28.000 That's hard.

01:17:29.000 It's so hard to relax in there.

01:17:32.000 That's the hard part.

01:17:33.000 Once you climb in, your body constricts.

01:17:36.000 You can't get any air.

01:17:37.000 You're like... 0.99

01:17:37.000 It sucks. 0.99

01:17:41.000 But if you can do it, it's awesome for your recovery. 0.93

01:17:44.000 Well, this is even better, apparently.

01:17:46.000 It's crazy.

01:17:47.000 So the athletes that they're getting now...

01:17:50.000 They're going to be even bigger.

01:17:51.000 They're going to be even faster.

01:17:53.000 And they're going to be on the Kansas City Chiefs.

01:17:54.000 You think so?

01:17:55.000 We got the first pick.

01:17:57.000 Even our second round pick is huge.

01:17:59.000 It's way up there.

01:18:00.000 How does that work?

01:18:01.000 Who gets what pick?

01:18:03.000 The worst team gets the first pick.

01:18:05.000 Really?

01:18:05.000 That's hilarious.

01:18:06.000 That sucks for the best guy.

01:18:08.000 The worst team takes them in.

01:18:09.000 It's true.

01:18:09.000 But look, Andrew Luck.

01:18:11.000 The Colts were the worst team last year.

01:18:13.000 They got Andrew Luck.

01:18:14.000 They made it to the playoffs. 0.98

01:18:16.000 Isn't that amazing that one super athlete dude is a quarterback, one super athlete in one way, one Herschel Walker type dude, just unheard of athletes, they just can change your whole fucking game. 0.97

01:18:28.000 Well, that's because he believes it. 0.52

01:18:30.000 And then the other people around it start spreading and they start believing.

01:18:34.000 So dudes with slow twitch muscles, can they believe they can win in sprinting competitions against Usain Bolt?

01:18:41.000 You ask any professional athlete, what is it?

01:18:45.000 And they'll say, the difference between the Ravens and the 49ers last night?

01:18:49.000 The Ravens believed it.

01:18:52.000 You can see when the 49ers stop believing it.

01:18:54.000 That's just what I mean.

01:18:55.000 Maybe that's just what you believe, and you've created this whole Super Bowl, and we are just participants.

01:19:02.000 And you are my funny Joe Rogan.

01:19:04.000 Yeah, I'm just your background.

01:19:05.000 I'm your new toy that you just picked up today.

01:19:07.000 I want to go talk to him!

01:19:08.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 You just created us and our old world didn't even exist before you came around.

01:19:14.000 But in your world, that is the case.

01:19:16.000 The reality is, in your universe, I didn't exist in a physical form until we meet each other.

01:19:21.000 And you didn't either.

01:19:22.000 I saw you on TV, I've heard your songs, but as a physical human being, you didn't exist in my world until today.

01:19:28.000 So I really did kind of invent you.

01:19:30.000 Yes.

01:19:30.000 And you invented me.

01:19:31.000 Yes, and I'm glad we did that.

01:19:33.000 So we all live in invented universes, and they all parallel coexist with each other.

01:19:39.000 Yes, so take charge of your life.

01:19:41.000 Do it. 1.00

01:19:42.000 Get your shit together, bitches. 1.00

01:19:44.000 Melissa Etheridge, just drop some pseudoscience on your ass. 1.00

01:19:49.000 But wonderfully empowering pseudoscience, right? 1.00

01:19:52.000 That attitude is one that's espoused by some of the happiest people I know, that you create your own reality.

01:19:59.000 I don't know.

01:20:00.000 I try to be, and I get accused of not being really open-minded, but I really do try to be as much as humanly possible. 0.92

01:20:07.000 I try to, especially since doing this podcast, I try to look at every point of every aspect of things and not really make opinions on a lot of shit. 0.80

01:20:17.000 Just go, I don't know enough. 0.76

01:20:19.000 I don't like getting into those conversations with people with the claim they do know enough to just refute things.

01:20:26.000 I think people enjoy refuting things as well.

01:20:28.000 Yeah.

01:20:29.000 Because they believe very...

01:20:30.000 It's all...

01:20:31.000 If I just look at everyone with belief, you are free to believe what you believe.

01:20:35.000 It's wonderful.

01:20:36.000 Have you always been an artist?

01:20:37.000 Have you always been a...

01:20:38.000 Yeah, I can't do anything else.

01:20:41.000 I'm just hopeless anywhere else.

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 When did you, what did you start with?

01:20:46.000 Was it always music?

01:20:47.000 Guitar, yeah.

01:20:47.000 Always, always music.

01:20:48.000 Yeah, when I was eight years old, my, well, I just, the transistor radio was the 70s, or 60s.

01:20:53.000 And I was, you know, listening to the Beatles, and my sister was a little older, and she had a lot of music.

01:20:58.000 My father bought her a guitar, and I was eight years old, going, please, I want to play it.

01:21:02.000 They said, no, you're too young, it'll hurt your fingers.

01:21:03.000 I'm like, please, please.

01:21:04.000 And the teacher's like, well, let her come.

01:21:06.000 She won't come back, because it's too hard.

01:21:08.000 And of course, I played, and my fingers bled, and I was like, I want to do it, and I kept doing it.

01:21:13.000 Wow.

01:21:14.000 See, I never had a desire to do it, but I was always fascinated by it.

01:21:19.000 It never pulled me towards a career, but when I was a little kid, I was probably like seven, and my sister was six, and we had a little record player, you know, play like 45s, and we had only a couple of records, and one of them was The Things We Do For Love.

01:21:36.000 You know that song?

01:21:36.000 Remember that?

01:21:37.000 Yeah, The Things We Do For Love.

01:21:39.000 10 CC. And I was amazed.

01:21:44.000 Because it was really the only time I'd ever have access to music that I could start and stop.

01:21:49.000 I could just decide, ready, go.

01:21:51.000 And then it starts.

01:21:52.000 And I was like, now I can really pay attention to it.

01:21:54.000 As opposed to walking into a store and music is playing, or going into a restaurant and the music is playing.

01:21:59.000 This was my first experience where I actually could turn on the music and turn off the music.

01:22:03.000 And realize, oh, this is crazy. 1.00

01:22:05.000 This is coming out of this fucking disc. 0.99

01:22:06.000 What is going on here? 0.99

01:22:08.000 Someone's figured out I'm going to make this flat, black, plastic disc.

01:22:11.000 And then I put this needle-y thing on it, and it spins around, and it plays me crazy songs.

01:22:16.000 It holds the vibration.

01:22:17.000 You can do the science right there.

01:22:19.000 That's vibration on the vinyl.

01:22:21.000 And the diamonds are like rocks and quartz.

01:22:25.000 That's why all the quartz, crazy stuff.

01:22:27.000 That picks up a vibration, and you hear it, which is just vibrations on your ear.

01:22:30.000 I think it's one of the reasons why I became a stand-up comedian.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 Because listening to that, I started asking questions.

01:22:36.000 And I remember, I really remember this from being seven years old, that no one had any answers to why they or how they could put that music on a record.

01:22:46.000 No one around me.

01:22:48.000 I was seven years old.

01:22:49.000 I asked my mom. 0.99

01:22:49.000 She didn't have any fucking idea. 0.99

01:22:51.000 I asked my dad. 0.99

01:22:52.000 No idea.

01:22:52.000 No one had any idea.

01:22:54.000 Yet, there were records all over the place. 0.97

01:22:56.000 I was like, damn, this is weird. 0.95

01:22:57.000 Why wouldn't you guys ask how they make this? 0.96

01:23:00.000 Isn't this freaky to you that there's something around you?

01:23:02.000 Aren't you curious?

01:23:04.000 And I was amazed at how many people just actually weren't curious.

01:23:08.000 And that sort of started me along that path of looking at all these adults With a slanted eye.

01:23:16.000 I don't trust you.

01:23:17.000 You don't know everything. 1.00

01:23:18.000 Motherfuckers might be crazy. 1.00

01:23:19.000 You don't even know how records are made. 1.00

01:23:21.000 You're just living your whole life.

01:23:23.000 Meanwhile, I'm 45. I don't know how records are made.

01:23:25.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:23:27.000 But back then, when I was a kid, I thought these people were ridiculous. 0.99

01:23:31.000 But if my kid asked me, I would at least research it. 0.90

01:23:34.000 I would go, let's find out.

01:23:35.000 I want to know.

01:23:35.000 You can go on YouTube and you can see how it's made instantly.

01:23:38.000 Instantaneously, you could know.

01:23:39.000 That's the thing.

01:23:39.000 Instantaneous information.

01:23:40.000 It's changing our world.

01:23:42.000 That is changing our world, isn't it?

01:23:44.000 Do you embrace it?

01:23:45.000 You're on Twitter, right?

01:23:47.000 I see you actually respond to people on Twitter.

01:23:49.000 You actually...

01:23:49.000 Someone does, yes.

01:23:51.000 Do I? It's not you?

01:23:52.000 It's not me, no.

01:23:52.000 Oh, it's a fake.

01:23:54.000 You don't do any blogs or anything like that, right?

01:23:57.000 No, you can't win.

01:23:58.000 You just can't win.

01:23:59.000 I missed it.

01:24:00.000 I missed the whole time, and I don't have time to do that.

01:24:03.000 I have four children, and I choose not to spend the time.

01:24:08.000 I have a fan club.

01:24:09.000 I have a whole group of people that work for me that do that.

01:24:13.000 So I stay in that arena, but no, I can't.

01:24:17.000 But do people think that it's you?

01:24:18.000 I don't know.

01:24:19.000 Because you have a verified account.

01:24:20.000 I always tell them that it's not me.

01:24:21.000 Oh, okay.

01:24:22.000 It's definitely my people.

01:24:23.000 I can make a statement.

01:24:27.000 I will go to my Twitter, and I will go to my website, and I will go this, and you can count on that.

01:24:31.000 If it says, Melissa Etheridge said this, you can count that that's what it is, that I did say it.

01:24:36.000 See, the only problem that I would say is that on your Twitter, when you go there, it looks like you're responding to things, responding to people, because someone is doing it Through your verified Twitter and they're not saying, hey, this isn't Melissa.

01:24:51.000 Yeah, like a lot of Britney Spears and stuff like that do the same thing, but when every time they actually do it, they do like dash BS, you know, meaning like it's her.

01:25:01.000 Yeah, they'll write like team someone or another is doing this.

01:25:05.000 Well, I think I'll have to go to my team and say, hey, let's do that.

01:25:08.000 Which I found on a really unsuccessful comedian's page, and I was very offended by it. 0.98

01:25:12.000 I was like, what do you got a team for, bitch? 1.00

01:25:14.000 You ain't got no team. 0.99

01:25:16.000 You can't respond on your Twitter to actual people yet.

01:25:19.000 For a comedian, Twitter is, like, super important.

01:25:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:22.000 Well, you can keep sharp.

01:25:24.000 Yeah.

01:25:24.000 It's fun.

01:25:25.000 It's fun to write, like, little things that aren't 40 characters, but it's also important to be able to keep in contact with people like that.

01:25:31.000 You don't do anything like that.

01:25:32.000 No?

01:25:33.000 It's too much?

01:25:34.000 I just don't want to spend the time to do it.

01:25:37.000 I just don't...

01:25:37.000 It's just not in your...

01:25:39.000 It's not in my wheel, but, yeah, I don't want people to know that much about me.

01:25:41.000 They know way too much anyway.

01:25:43.000 Isn't it weird that they just want to find so much about you?

01:25:45.000 Just want to...

01:25:46.000 I'm not that interesting.

01:25:48.000 I am so not as interested.

01:25:49.000 It's not even that.

01:25:50.000 It's just they fixate.

01:25:52.000 They just decide.

01:25:53.000 Well, because they don't want to look at themselves.

01:25:54.000 Yeah.

01:25:56.000 What was your Woodstock performance like?

01:26:00.000 That was one of my favorite shows.

01:26:02.000 Yeah, 94. And that was one of my favorites of Woodstock.

01:26:07.000 Oh, thank you.

01:26:08.000 What was that like being in that situation?

01:26:10.000 I've got to tell you, it was a crazy one because it was the 25th anniversary and they hadn't got back together to do this.

01:26:17.000 And I remember being – we took a car to a bus that drove to the secret house somewhere that then put us on a boat that took us up a river to a van that took us to the backstage.

01:26:34.000 It was crazy.

01:26:35.000 Wow.

01:26:35.000 And I remember Joe Cocker opening the day that I played and I was on stage and I was getting by with a little help from my friends.

01:26:42.000 I was like, oh, this is awesome.

01:26:43.000 And it was really, really wonderful.

01:26:45.000 They put me in between Henry Rollins and Nine Inch Nails.

01:26:49.000 That's crazy.

01:26:50.000 And it rained during Henry Rollins.

01:26:52.000 So my show, The Sun Came Out, it was beautiful.

01:26:56.000 You manifested that. 0.99

01:26:58.000 You manifested that and Henry Rollins fucked up. 0.99

01:27:00.000 He got all negative. 1.00

01:27:01.000 I am a liar! 0.92

01:27:02.000 I am not going to blame him! 1.00

01:27:04.000 I am a liar! 0.88

01:27:05.000 I'm not going to blame him! 0.83

01:27:06.000 I know you're not going to blame him.

01:27:07.000 That's why I'm here to blame him.

01:27:08.000 And I like him.

01:27:10.000 I like Henry Rollins.

01:27:10.000 He's badass.

01:27:12.000 I like a lot of what that guy is.

01:27:14.000 So I got to play, and the audience was great.

01:27:16.000 There was a bit of moshing going on in front of me that kind of scared me.

01:27:18.000 Uh-oh.

01:27:19.000 Oh, look at that.

01:27:20.000 Yeah.

01:27:21.000 It was great.

01:27:23.000 By my last song, I played Like the Way I Do...

01:27:25.000 Yeah, there's the mud people. 1.00

01:27:26.000 They started because it had just rained, and I could see this patch of...

01:27:30.000 Of grey, brown, way far away.

01:27:32.000 I mean, I couldn't see the end of the audience.

01:27:36.000 And so I'm looking and all of a sudden that patch kind of turns into a snake and they all start coming toward the stage and everyone's like moving out of the way because it's all these completely muddy people from head to toe. 1.00

01:27:45.000 Brian, show that again.

01:27:47.000 That's a real first world problem. 0.98

01:27:49.000 A bunch of white people... 0.99

01:27:50.000 Muddy. 1.00

01:27:51.000 All muddy. 1.00

01:27:52.000 White people are so silly in their decisions to get muddy. 1.00

01:27:56.000 Yes. 1.00

01:27:56.000 Because if that was black people, that fucking concert's canceled, bitch. 1.00

01:28:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:28:00.000 It's money, no way! 1.00

01:28:01.000 Oh, I'm out of here.

01:28:04.000 They're not going to go mosh. 0.99

01:28:05.000 If it was all black girls, how many black girls do you think would be there? 1.00

01:28:08.000 They're going to mess up their hair. 1.00

01:28:09.000 Their hair did, and fucking high heels, and stepping in the mud. 1.00

01:28:12.000 Bitch, that show's over. 1.00

01:28:13.000 It takes dopey white people to be slamming into each other. 1.00

01:28:16.000 That's us. 1.00

01:28:19.000 Yeah, white people will get muddy. 1.00

01:28:20.000 They get crazy. 0.99

01:28:21.000 And the whole moshing thing, the mosh pit thing is so bananas. 0.95

01:28:25.000 When did that start?

01:28:26.000 Serious pain.

01:28:27.000 What happened to just enjoying the music or dancing? 1.00

01:28:30.000 Why are you slamming into each other, you crazy assholes? 1.00

01:28:32.000 I had one guy jump up on my stage and go to dive off and everyone just moved and he just went slam! 1.00

01:28:36.000 Bam! 0.98

01:28:37.000 Right on the floor.

01:28:38.000 I'm like, oh, dude.

01:28:39.000 Yeah, that must have been bad.

01:28:41.000 Ouch, yes.

01:28:41.000 Did he get knocked unconscious?

01:28:42.000 He kind of just walked off, really.

01:28:44.000 Oh, my God.

01:28:45.000 You're going to get thrown out if you do that. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Oh, he must have been fucked up. 1.00

01:28:47.000 Yeah, he was. 1.00

01:28:48.000 Diving off a stage and everybody scatters.

01:28:51.000 Why would you think that they would catch you?

01:28:53.000 That you'd need to hurt catching somebody, you know?

01:28:55.000 Yes, yes, you would.

01:28:56.000 Oh, why would you just risk that?

01:28:59.000 Alcohol.

01:29:00.000 See?

01:29:01.000 Gets you all brave.

01:29:03.000 But it was also his choice. 0.97

01:29:04.000 His choice to be a dickwad. 0.98

01:29:06.000 The universe is trying to end him. 0.99

01:29:07.000 The universe is sending him bad signals.

01:29:09.000 Like, go ahead, jump. 0.99

01:29:10.000 Jump, dummy. 1.00

01:29:11.000 We're tired of your bullshit. 1.00

01:29:12.000 No? 1.00

01:29:12.000 Never. 1.00

01:29:13.000 Never.

01:29:13.000 No judgment whatsoever from you.

01:29:16.000 None.

01:29:16.000 How do you feel, though, when you see a horrible tragedy, like Connecticut shootings?

01:29:21.000 Yes, that is definitely the hardest.

01:29:23.000 And I'm not telling you it's easy that I just go, oh, you know, that's the balance.

01:29:27.000 I understand that through this horrific act...

01:29:33.000 That the outpouring of goodwill, the outpouring of, wait a minute, we have to do something.

01:29:39.000 I mean, I'm not going to get in the gun control thing.

01:29:42.000 I think it's beyond that to the people, the person.

01:29:45.000 A person that can be in so much pain that they can walk in and do that.

01:29:50.000 That's a lot of pain.

01:29:52.000 Let's look at what leads our human beings of our society to that sort of pain without anyone noticing.

01:30:00.000 Right, but wouldn't you have to say that he asked for that?

01:30:03.000 I mean, with your philosophy, he created that?

01:30:06.000 Yes, I imagine his pain was so great that the only way to unload it was to spray that much pain around.

01:30:17.000 And the pain becomes all-encompassing and of course you just fall into it and of course you're just gonna end your own life.

01:30:24.000 It's like game over.

01:30:25.000 It's like tilt.

01:30:25.000 But how do you factor in like psychosis and things along those lines like real mental issues?

01:30:31.000 Real mental issues.

01:30:32.000 It depends on how you look at what, just because something is not the way you and I perceive, okay, this is sane and that's crazy.

01:30:45.000 Real mental issues, where's the line?

01:30:47.000 Draw me the line where your thoughts become psychosis.

01:30:52.000 Right.

01:30:53.000 Is it a spectrum?

01:30:54.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 Is it broad?

01:30:56.000 Yeah.

01:30:56.000 It's been vibrating that much more, and so you are so far out of it that we call it psychosis.

01:31:04.000 But there are some people that do not have an emotional connection to other people.

01:31:08.000 They don't feel remorse.

01:31:09.000 Indeed.

01:31:11.000 You look at that and go, what is their intention here?

01:31:16.000 What do they need to draw?

01:31:18.000 I mean, who knows what they are intending?

01:31:22.000 And creating, given that, it's like, okay, you're going to go back into the biosphere called Earth, you're going to go in there, and this is your handicap. 0.68

01:31:34.000 You can't feel a thing.

01:31:36.000 Because...

01:31:37.000 Now, now, work through that.

01:31:40.000 How do you work through that if you don't have any feelings?

01:31:43.000 I mean the idea of not having any feelings and lashing out is a big difference between the idea of just not having any feelings without the need for inflicting pain on other people.

01:31:53.000 It seems to be a dual issue.

01:31:55.000 It seems to be an issue of not being able to feel it for some of them and also the anger.

01:32:02.000 The desire to hurt.

01:32:06.000 The belief that if they don't hurt something, they're going to hurt more.

01:32:11.000 It seems like with this way of thinking that if you got more people to sort of look at it that way, do you think that that would be like an empowering thing?

01:32:26.000 Yeah.

01:32:26.000 It's the point in which you see that peace is, okay, I need to...

01:32:34.000 Okay, you might have thrown the last rock.

01:32:36.000 You might have shot the last bullet.

01:32:39.000 But I need to be willing to go, oh, okay, I'm not going to shoot back.

01:32:43.000 I'm going to start a different reaction.

01:32:47.000 So if you get enough people who believe that, and believe that if I take care of myself, that nothing What bad is going to happen to me that I can't handle.

01:33:04.000 Because I'm not saying the world is all good.

01:33:06.000 It's about understanding your balance and what you ask for and walking through it.

01:33:10.000 If I can hold that and not blame anybody else, and nobody else is going to blame me, then we start walking, we start moving to a future that is, all of a sudden you don't need prisons.

01:33:22.000 All of a sudden you don't need, all of a sudden the way we govern ourselves.

01:33:28.000 Completely changes.

01:33:29.000 But you gotta catch people at a very, very, very early age and sort of manifest this type of behavior.

01:33:35.000 You have to get them when they're young, expose them to nothing but love and curiosity and fulfilling curiosity with joy.

01:33:43.000 My kids think I'm crazy.

01:33:43.000 Why do they think you're crazy?

01:33:44.000 Well, because I talk all that voodoo talk, because it is different. 1.00

01:33:46.000 That's when they say, oh, mom, stop that voodoo stuff. 1.00

01:33:48.000 But they will believe it when it...

01:33:49.000 They call it voodoo?

01:33:50.000 Yeah, they do.

01:33:50.000 That voodoo stuff.

01:33:51.000 How long have you been talking voodoo?

01:33:53.000 Oh, it's been about eight years now.

01:33:54.000 Eight years.

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 But I can constantly go, okay, you saw that choice you made.

01:34:00.000 This is the result of that choice.

01:34:01.000 This is not anybody else.

01:34:02.000 It's not anybody who's doing anything to you.

01:34:04.000 So there is no randomness, you think?

01:34:06.000 So people that are in, like, the tower when the plane hits, they made a choice somehow in the world to be in that spot.

01:34:13.000 If you can look at it without blame, if you can look at that they, that that was what they signed up for, they wanted to be in it for that long, you know, I can't tell this to someone who lost their loved one.

01:34:26.000 That's not going to sound.

01:34:27.000 Yet, my belief is founded on that I can't blame anybody else for anything.

01:34:36.000 But it's also founded on the idea that you're creating this sort of reality that you exist in.

01:34:42.000 And that everybody's creating their own reality.

01:34:44.000 So if I work, if I make my little hologram, my little fractal of the hologram, if I work making that the best I can, fill it with as much love and as little fear as possible, then I help the whole picture because the whole picture has me in it.

01:35:00.000 I look at it as a, I don't have an opinion one way or another, but I do look at it often that it's a combination of that and scientific reality. 0.95

01:35:10.000 I think that if the super volcano goes, we're all fucked no matter what you believe. 0.97

01:35:15.000 I do believe that. 0.83

01:35:16.000 But I do believe that there's also a real possibility that your thoughts are creating a good portion of your reality.

01:35:24.000 And your thoughts interacting with other people are actually responsible for culture in the first place.

01:35:29.000 That's how decisions get made.

01:35:31.000 Conversations have taken place.

01:35:33.000 Letters get written.

01:35:34.000 Books get written.

01:35:35.000 That's how it all happens.

01:35:36.000 It happens through your mind.

01:35:39.000 Interacting with other people and literally changing things in a very physical form that everybody agrees on.

01:35:44.000 But I think that Even besides that, I think there's other issues going on.

01:35:48.000 I think it's a lot more ethereal than we give it credit for.

01:35:52.000 It's very strange.

01:35:53.000 I'm just trying to walk every day.

01:35:56.000 Just walk. 1.00

01:35:57.000 But asteroids will fuck your world up, and that shit is real as ice cream. 1.00

01:36:04.000 They come down, and that's a wrap, son, and there's nothing you can do about it, and there's a lot of them out there. 1.00

01:36:09.000 I think that, too. 0.98

01:36:10.000 I think you create your reality, but I also think that there's some random shit that I didn't sign up for. 0.97

01:36:14.000 If it was up to me, there would be no asteroids. 0.95

01:36:17.000 Okay?

01:36:18.000 I would work that out.

01:36:19.000 I'd figure it out. 0.98

01:36:20.000 I'd be like, that has got to be one fucked up way to go. 0.96

01:36:22.000 There's a big light in the sky for three days until finally, boom! 0.96

01:36:27.000 It's just over.

01:36:28.000 Yeah.

01:36:28.000 I'm not really into that.

01:36:29.000 All right.

01:36:31.000 That was not my idea.

01:36:33.000 I'm pretty sure.

01:36:33.000 But I could be wrong.

01:36:35.000 Maybe I was a real mess.

01:36:36.000 You weren't thinking about it, though.

01:36:37.000 Yes.

01:36:38.000 Well, I guess.

01:36:39.000 I mean, if you're correct, then I do live in this world that's really nutty and asteroids are there to keep you honest.

01:36:46.000 Or you could say, I'm really grateful that there were no asteroids, that it was a perfectly uneventful day.

01:36:52.000 What other kind of crazy out there ideas do you have in your head?

01:36:55.000 Do you believe in alien contact?

01:36:57.000 Do you believe in anything like that?

01:36:59.000 I don't think that there's like a whole race of people that are like, you know, I'm from another planet, blah, blah, blah.

01:37:05.000 I do believe in multidimensional reality and I believe that there are other spiritual beings.

01:37:12.000 That live on...

01:37:14.000 That exist.

01:37:15.000 I wouldn't say live.

01:37:16.000 That exist on different planes and that that is where my spirit goes to when this biological body dies.

01:37:25.000 I've tried to pretend they're watching me all the time.

01:37:27.000 They are.

01:37:28.000 It keeps me on steady.

01:37:29.000 It keeps me on the straight and narrow.

01:37:32.000 Yeah.

01:37:33.000 But no, I'm not a...

01:37:34.000 You can...

01:37:37.000 I think everything's metaphor, so...

01:37:39.000 I lost a lot of interest in aliens once I had psychedelic experiences.

01:37:44.000 Yes.

01:37:44.000 The first DMT trip I had, I really checked out the whole alien culture.

01:37:48.000 I was like, you guys are missing the whole thing.

01:37:51.000 Yeah, that's also what I... It's not out there, it's in here.

01:37:55.000 Yeah.

01:37:56.000 I'm trying to explain that to someone, that if a UFO landed on the White House law...

01:38:03.000 The White House lawn got out, aliens got out, met the president, gave him some new supercomputer.

01:38:08.000 It would be way less crazier than DMT. DMT is infinitely crazier than that, and it's real.

01:38:15.000 It pushes you to see what are you believing.

01:38:20.000 What's beyond this thing that you are so dead certain is reality.

01:38:25.000 The deer head just fell over.

01:38:29.000 That's his reality.

01:38:31.000 That's fine.

01:38:32.000 Powerful stuff.

01:38:33.000 Yeah, no kidding.

01:38:34.000 You got so excited, you were pounding on wood.

01:38:36.000 You're going nutty.

01:38:37.000 Oh my gosh. 0.97

01:38:39.000 There you go.

01:38:39.000 There we go.

01:38:40.000 Dude, your bladder must be huge.

01:38:42.000 I've been sitting here talking to you, and all I need to do is just go.

01:38:45.000 Go, go, go.

01:38:46.000 Use the restroom. 0.98

01:38:46.000 I'll be right back, everyone. 0.98

01:38:47.000 Don't worry about it.

01:38:48.000 I can take it.

01:38:50.000 Okay.

01:38:50.000 My co-host on the UFC has a real problem.

01:38:53.000 That's not the bathroom.

01:38:54.000 To that door to the right. 0.99

01:38:59.000 Melissa Etheridge is cool as fuck. 1.00

01:39:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:01.000 I didn't think she was going to be so crazy hippie. 1.00

01:39:04.000 She's super crazy hippie, right? 1.00

01:39:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:06.000 Neil deGrasse Tyson would be having fucking... 1.00

01:39:08.000 He would be flipping out. 1.00

01:39:09.000 You know who would be really flipping out?

01:39:10.000 Cara.

01:39:11.000 Cara Santa Maria?

01:39:11.000 Yeah.

01:39:12.000 That bitch would be going crazy right now. 1.00

01:39:16.000 That's like non-scientific crazy talk. 1.00

01:39:20.000 Vegas was a lot of fun this weekend, man.

01:39:22.000 Thanks a lot for everything, except for the peeing on my pillow part.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, Brian got so drunk, I left him at a certain point in the night.

01:39:31.000 Oh, after the show.

01:39:32.000 I went and played pool, because this guy Stevie Moore was in town, who's this world-famous professional pool player, and he wanted to play with me.

01:39:38.000 For me, that's like a golfer who gets a chance to go play with Jack Nicklaus. 0.99

01:39:43.000 How bad did he kick your ass? 1.00

01:39:44.000 Oh, he tortured me. 1.00

01:39:46.000 Did you win any games?

01:39:47.000 Yeah, I won a couple games.

01:39:48.000 Yeah, I mean, he misses every now and again, but he's amazing. 0.66

01:39:50.000 So I did that, and Brian went out and got fucking blasted to the point where he almost died, and he went back home to his bedroom. 0.73

01:39:59.000 I'm learning more new things, by the way. 0.96

01:40:01.000 I have this alert thing on Google.

01:40:03.000 If anyone uses Redband, it goes, hey, you're being talked about on this message board.

01:40:08.000 Someone sounds needy.

01:40:10.000 No, no, it's just kind of a way to kind of track things.

01:40:12.000 Well, somebody was like, hey, just met Red Band in the elevator.

01:40:15.000 He came back to our room and we smoked weed.

01:40:18.000 I went to some dude's room and smoked weed in Vegas, like a stranger's...

01:40:22.000 Or somebody just made that up.

01:40:24.000 No, I slightly remember it.

01:40:27.000 Really?

01:40:27.000 Yeah, and then I guess I went back to my room and I had to go to the bathroom so bad that I woke up and peed on my pillow...

01:40:34.000 And then put a blanket on my pillow, then slept back on it, and then woke up in the morning.

01:40:38.000 I was like, why is my pillow wet?

01:40:40.000 Oh, Jesus!

01:40:41.000 Oh, I'm back.

01:40:42.000 Sorry.

01:40:42.000 No, no worries.

01:40:43.000 Perfect timing.

01:40:45.000 Back for a recap of Brian's weekend.

01:40:48.000 We have Ari Shafir coming with us tomorrow, who I watched scream and yell at the TSA agents. 0.99

01:40:54.000 Oh no.

01:40:55.000 Did he do it again on the way back?

01:40:56.000 He's doing it constantly.

01:40:57.000 That's what he does now.

01:40:58.000 He yells at the TSA. He won't take off his shoes.

01:41:01.000 He won't take off his shoes. 0.98

01:41:02.000 He goes through a screening thing and he's like, you guys are all corrupt. 1.00

01:41:06.000 This is stupid. 1.00

01:41:07.000 Tomorrow we'll talk about it. 1.00

01:41:08.000 It was amazing.

01:41:09.000 I got a picture of it.

01:41:10.000 I tweeted the picture when it went down.

01:41:11.000 I put it on my Instagram.

01:41:13.000 But it was hilarious.

01:41:15.000 I'm like, why are you creating all those problems? 1.00

01:41:17.000 He's like, this is stupid. 1.00

01:41:18.000 It's corruption. 1.00

01:41:19.000 We didn't ask for this. 0.98

01:41:20.000 I go, yeah, but all you have to do is just take your shoes off and walk through that little thing and show them your junk and then you go. 0.92

01:41:25.000 Everyone's going to be fine. 0.96

01:41:26.000 Those naked scanners, what are you afraid of, man?

01:41:29.000 For real?

01:41:29.000 Oh, I don't go through them just for the radiation aspect.

01:41:33.000 Some of them, the new ones, when you stand up and you hold your hand up like that, it's not radiation.

01:41:36.000 It's some sort of a radio wave.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, that's what they say.

01:41:39.000 I just stay out of it just general.

01:41:43.000 But I don't yell at them.

01:41:44.000 There's more of an issue with the radiation of space, actually, scientifically.

01:41:48.000 That is, if we believe what the numbers are that they say that those things, those scanners give off.

01:41:55.000 But they say those are real...

01:41:56.000 Risk of radiation is actually flying.

01:41:59.000 Just flying.

01:42:00.000 Just being up in the air that high, it's a lot of radiation.

01:42:03.000 You know, there's a lot of stuff we, again, can be afraid of.

01:42:06.000 I just believe I'm going to do the best I can.

01:42:10.000 I'm going to stay in the best possible shape I can be in.

01:42:14.000 Well, that argument, you know, that way of looking at things is what I've always argued was a good aspect of religion.

01:42:20.000 With religion and putting things in the faith of God and having this belief that it's all going to work out, even though It's sort of like, in my opinion, I believe, you know, people always say, are you an atheist or an agnostic? 1.00

01:42:33.000 I believe people are full of shit, first and foremost. 0.99

01:42:36.000 And that's always an issue whenever I hear a story. 1.00

01:42:39.000 So I look at every religion as a collection of stories.

01:42:42.000 Every religion is either a collection of stories or a collection of rules that came down from those collections of stories. 1.00

01:42:48.000 Everybody's stories are bullshit, okay? 1.00

01:42:49.000 So let's just put that out there. 0.99

01:42:51.000 Now, I also believe that you believing In those stories, and you believing in God's love, and you believing in doing God's will, and you believing in being a good, God-fearing person, in the same way that I believe it's, you know, I pretend that the interdimensional beings are watching me,

01:43:06.000 so it keeps me on the straight and narrow, I think there's a benefit to that.

01:43:10.000 There's a benefit to that.

01:43:11.000 I don't think it's a correct way of approaching it, rationally, because I think whatever merit is in the ancient texts, whether it was actually the Word of God, it very well could be.

01:43:21.000 The huge issue is Reading it at face value, using it for like a framework for how you behave and act in this life when it's written thousands of years ago by people with very limited access to information and all of it is ridiculous. 0.93

01:43:39.000 It's all ridiculous. 0.82

01:43:41.000 Yes, and the desire to do good. 0.94

01:43:45.000 Yes.

01:43:46.000 Is a natural human state.

01:43:48.000 And to corrupt it with fear is unfortunate when religion and that we're the only one that's right and you're not.

01:43:58.000 Control is when someone has power.

01:44:01.000 It's really simple.

01:44:03.000 It's very similar to what we were talking about with actors losing their mind when they became really famous.

01:44:08.000 It's almost similar.

01:44:09.000 It's like they have crazy outfits on and they control the Vatican.

01:44:12.000 And so they are used to everyone being terrified of them and freaking out in their presence.

01:44:17.000 It works.

01:44:17.000 So they think they deserve it.

01:44:18.000 Like if I could get the Pope on a podcast and the Pope's book English, it would be the most hilarious conversation ever.

01:44:24.000 He would never do it.

01:44:26.000 He would leave.

01:44:26.000 The moment we started talking about pedophilia, he would probably run out the door.

01:44:30.000 But the idea that this guy is so completely sheltered We're good to go.

01:44:52.000 And the real God, whatever, stop saying the word or say it if you like.

01:44:56.000 The universe or the creator or the intelligent being, whatever it is.

01:44:59.000 Do you know who Alex Gray is?

01:45:00.000 Yes.

01:45:00.000 The visionary artist?

01:45:01.000 Yes.

01:45:02.000 Brilliant, brilliant man and a beautiful human being.

01:45:04.000 He came in and did the podcast and he was just amazing.

01:45:06.000 But he uses that word God all the time.

01:45:08.000 He's like, we have to take that word back.

01:45:09.000 Yeah.

01:45:10.000 You know, he's like, stop connecting it.

01:45:11.000 Everyone's connecting it to It represents the idea of the perfection that is possible.

01:45:17.000 It represents love.

01:45:19.000 His really beautiful point of view on it really opened me up to that.

01:45:24.000 I don't use it that often because people misinterpret it and people automatically cookie-cutter it.

01:45:30.000 They shove it into that framework of predetermined patterns of behavior that have been adopted from religions.

01:45:37.000 But I think the heart of everything, good, the heart of all good feelings, is that love thing, the thing that pulls us all together, the thing that makes us interact well.

01:45:48.000 That's something.

01:45:49.000 Yeah, if you take the teachings of Jesus, of Muhammad, of Buddha, of Martin Luther, of Gandhi, they are all based in the love each other, love your neighbor as yourself.

01:46:06.000 Right.

01:46:07.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:46:09.000 Yes.

01:46:10.000 You can't blame anybody.

01:46:13.000 And then love the Lord your God or whatever with all your might and your heart.

01:46:18.000 And so it's about infusing love.

01:46:21.000 And if you can walk with those, really, and to completely take it away from religion, because I certainly, being the big homosexual I am, I didn't fit into religion at all.

01:46:32.000 So it's yet...

01:46:36.000 God, I believe in that.

01:46:38.000 I'm with you on taking that back. 0.97

01:46:40.000 I think there was a huge mistake in keeping homosexuals out of the church. 1.00

01:46:44.000 What a dumb move. 1.00

01:46:45.000 Because by doing that, by alienating that aspect of the population, you missed out on a whole bunch of other people you can control, stupid. 1.00

01:46:52.000 And now they're all against you. 1.00

01:46:54.000 And we dress better. 0.99

01:46:55.000 Yeah, that was such a shitty chess move. 0.99

01:46:57.000 They should have embraced the gay people, said that that's just another aspect of life. 1.00

01:47:01.000 Come on, there you go.

01:47:02.000 It's the same, just as beautiful as a male-woman relationship.

01:47:05.000 We'll just follow right along with you.

01:47:06.000 Do whatever you want to do.

01:47:08.000 And then people have been like, oh, there's lesbians in our church today. 1.00

01:47:10.000 And no one would have cared.

01:47:11.000 It would have been fine. 1.00

01:47:12.000 You would have had more people in your church, stupid. 1.00

01:47:14.000 But you blew it. 1.00

01:47:15.000 Why alienate gay people, too? 0.79

01:47:17.000 That, to me, is...

01:47:18.000 That's a weird one.

01:47:19.000 I've never understood that one.

01:47:20.000 Fear.

01:47:21.000 Yeah.

01:47:22.000 But fear of what?

01:47:22.000 Fear of your own sexuality?

01:47:24.000 Yes.

01:47:25.000 Your own fear of sex.

01:47:27.000 It depends on where you grew up. 0.98

01:47:29.000 If you grew up and your parents – if when you were three years old and running around without a diaper on, if you were touching your genitalia – I just said genitalia. 0.97

01:47:37.000 That's fine. 0.90

01:47:38.000 If you're touching yourself and your mother goes, don't do that, that starts your whole – wait a minute, there's something wrong with that.

01:47:44.000 I'm not supposed to do that.

01:47:45.000 And that grows and then depends on all the other parts of your experience.

01:47:51.000 Any things that naturally happen to us, when they put that fear on it, then that will mess you up.

01:47:55.000 It's not a coincidence that the most suppressive aspect of our accepted culture is catheterism.

01:48:01.000 Catholic priests. 0.98

01:48:02.000 I mean, they're not allowed to have sex. 0.99

01:48:05.000 They're always involved in scandals that are sexual.

01:48:07.000 It's like, come on, we are sexual beings.

01:48:09.000 It's part of connection with the God. 0.99

01:48:11.000 Yeah, well, how do you explain those dumb monks that are up there that are not having sex with anybody either? 0.99

01:48:16.000 They've got a good thing, though. 1.00

01:48:17.000 At least they're monitoring their mind to a point where they're controlling their physicality, but I still think that shit's ridiculous. 1.00

01:48:24.000 It's true. 0.99

01:48:25.000 You don't have to go be a monk.

01:48:26.000 Don't worry about it.

01:48:27.000 It's so not necessary.

01:48:28.000 You'd never make it.

01:48:29.000 Have you had any experience in the isolation tank?

01:48:32.000 I have not.

01:48:32.000 I really want to do that, though.

01:48:35.000 I am consistently amazed at how many amazing, interesting people haven't tried that out yet.

01:48:39.000 Yeah.

01:48:39.000 I just...

01:48:40.000 I haven't...

01:48:40.000 Where do you do that?

01:48:42.000 I can get you in.

01:48:43.000 You want to try it?

01:48:44.000 There's a place in...

01:48:45.000 Well, the best place in the world, actually, is in Venice.

01:48:48.000 Oh, really?

01:48:49.000 Yeah.

01:48:49.000 Venice...

01:48:50.000 I don't know if that's close to you, but it's a...

01:48:52.000 There's a place called Soothing Solutions in Burbank.

01:48:55.000 But the issue of the Burbank place, as opposed to the Venice place, though, is the tanks...

01:49:00.000 Burbank Place is fine.

01:49:01.000 If you're close to that, definitely go.

01:49:03.000 And the lady who runs it is super cool. 1.00

01:49:05.000 The difference is what that guy at the float lab has done.

01:49:09.000 The float lab is the place in Venice.

01:49:10.000 He's taking floating to a completely different place.

01:49:13.000 He's a super genius, this guy. 1.00

01:49:15.000 He's nuts. 0.56

01:49:16.000 And he creates these unbelievably solid, amazing, huge tanks.

01:49:21.000 that are so regulated and they pump oxygen into them he's got it down to such a science that when you're in that I mean it's it's just so if the environment is so perfect completely soundproof you don't feel anything you're floating through space your body is just like the water is the same temperature as your skin so as you float there you literally don't feel the water you're released of massive amounts of tension just a physical feeling alright it's amazingly recharging just physically and then If you

01:49:51.000 go in there with brownies, you get to meet aliens. 0.72

01:49:54.000 I believe that.

01:49:55.000 Absolutely.

01:49:56.000 Because all you have to do is just get past your belief that this is what's in front of me so I can't possibly see aliens.

01:50:02.000 But if you remove all that, absolutely.

01:50:04.000 And we say aliens just as in other spiritual dimensions. 0.84

01:50:07.000 I'm just being silly.

01:50:09.000 Something that talks back. 0.86

01:50:10.000 That's what I like to talk to.

01:50:12.000 That's when you realize.

01:50:13.000 Because some people think, oh, the way that I believe is very lonely.

01:50:17.000 No, no.

01:50:18.000 It opens you up to the heart.

01:50:19.000 We are anything but alone.

01:50:21.000 It makes me very thankful whenever I come out of there.

01:50:23.000 That's probably been the biggest tool for developing my own personality, my own view of reality.

01:50:30.000 Because it's a real reset.

01:50:32.000 It's a real time off when everything's shut off.

01:50:35.000 And when I get out, I just want to call my friends and tell them I love them.

01:50:38.000 I just want to pet my dog.

01:50:39.000 I get really thankful.

01:50:42.000 How long do you stay in it?

01:50:43.000 A couple hours.

01:50:44.000 I like to do two hours.

01:50:45.000 I just think it's another thing that I would like to see spread.

01:50:50.000 And I know some people are doing it.

01:50:51.000 My friend Scotty from OnTheMat.com, he's got a tank center that he's looking into opening in California or in LA rather.

01:51:00.000 And then I know the Float Lab is going to open up another place in Hollywood too.

01:51:03.000 And there's plenty of business out there.

01:51:06.000 If more people did it, a lot of people want to know about this.

01:51:09.000 And a lot of people would benefit massively.

01:51:11.000 Like if you enjoy getting a massage every now and then, you enjoy taking a yoga class, this is that times a hundred.

01:51:16.000 It's really incredible.

01:51:18.000 I will do that.

01:51:18.000 Thank you.

01:51:18.000 You should totally do that.

01:51:20.000 What's wrong with me?

01:51:20.000 I bet it would.

01:51:21.000 Your music. 1.00

01:51:22.000 I bet you would come up with some crazy shit from in there, too. 1.00

01:51:25.000 That much space? 1.00

01:51:25.000 Wow. 1.00

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 Yeah.

01:51:28.000 Just being complete, floating around in there.

01:51:30.000 How do you write?

01:51:31.000 Do you sit down with a guitar or do you sit down with a piece of paper?

01:51:35.000 Do you both?

01:51:36.000 Well, it always starts with inspiration.

01:51:38.000 So that can be me sitting here going, oh, wait a minute.

01:51:42.000 Maybe you just said something that sounds rhythmic, that sounds like, oh, I want to write about that.

01:51:46.000 Do you just go run out of the room and write it down?

01:51:48.000 No.

01:51:48.000 Actually, I use the iPhone a lot to just make notes to myself or if I hear a rhythm or sing a melody or something, I'll put it on the voice memo.

01:51:55.000 Oh.

01:51:55.000 Yeah, I do that a lot.

01:51:57.000 And then when I have time, when I make time, I try to make, you know, two, three, four hours, and I can sit down and really just work something out and see if I can get it out.

01:52:04.000 You know what's amazing?

01:52:05.000 I don't know if you've ever used it on the iPhone.

01:52:07.000 It has this little icon.

01:52:09.000 Apparently, the Android phones have this now as well for the notes.

01:52:13.000 If you press it, you press this little microphone icon next to the space bar, and you can talk into it, and it does it in real time.

01:52:19.000 It's amazing.

01:52:19.000 Check this out.

01:52:20.000 Watch. 1.00

01:52:21.000 Melissa Etheridge is a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:52:25.000 Watch this. 1.00

01:52:26.000 Bam.

01:52:26.000 Look at that.

01:52:27.000 Look how quick that is.

01:52:28.000 Oh, it typed it out!

01:52:29.000 It typed it out perfectly.

01:52:31.000 Whoa, now I've got to see if I have this.

01:52:33.000 I have a lot of stuff that I wrote in my little notepad, but I'm not as fast with my thumbs as that is.

01:52:41.000 And sometimes, for me, a new idea for a joke is so slippery.

01:52:46.000 It's like a fish that I can't hold onto.

01:52:48.000 And I've got to write it down and say, how does that go again?

01:52:51.000 And someone's still talking to me, like, please stop, stop talking for a second!

01:52:54.000 I gotta hold on to this.

01:52:56.000 What is this?

01:52:57.000 How do I write this down?

01:52:58.000 But if I could just say it, it would be way better.

01:53:00.000 I could get the idea completely. 0.98

01:53:02.000 Because sometimes my ideas are so ridiculous. 0.90

01:53:04.000 I have to go back and read them two or three times to figure out even what the hell I was saying.

01:53:09.000 But these new little icon, these new little note features where you could do that with just the microphone, it's amazing.

01:53:16.000 These new cell phones are just, what you can do with them is just unbelievable.

01:53:20.000 It's so crazy.

01:53:21.000 So you write things down just when you have this idea or you record like the melody, like you hum it or something like that into your voice memos?

01:53:28.000 Yeah.

01:53:29.000 Yeah, it depends.

01:53:30.000 Or I'll play, if it's a piece of guitar thing, I'll play that or piano or whatever it is.

01:53:34.000 It always comes from different places and then I'll give the time to work it out and do whatever it's going to be.

01:53:40.000 I love when people still keep creating.

01:53:42.000 They just never stop.

01:53:43.000 They just keep pumping stuff out.

01:53:45.000 I love it.

01:53:46.000 It's so fun.

01:53:48.000 It's so fun to be a part of this crazy world that we live in now and see all the stuff that's coming out too.

01:53:57.000 We have more access to great information, great music, great movies, great everything.

01:54:04.000 We have so much access to inspiration.

01:54:07.000 We have so much access to art.

01:54:08.000 It's an amazing time.

01:54:10.000 Yeah.

01:54:11.000 And to see people embracing the internet and using the internet as a method of spreading all this stuff, too, it's just, I think, we just live in just very, very rare times.

01:54:22.000 Yeah.

01:54:22.000 That's another thing to be really, really happy for and really appreciative of, this time, this strange, strange time that we exist in.

01:54:30.000 Do you write and create as just a matter of...

01:54:33.000 I mean, you're so successful now.

01:54:34.000 You just must do it as a desire.

01:54:36.000 Whenever you feel like it, you do it every day.

01:54:38.000 Like, this is my gig.

01:54:39.000 How do you treat it?

01:54:41.000 Nowadays, my life is so full and so blessed that when it's time for me to create something, it's like I'm thinking about a musical.

01:54:51.000 I would really love to have a musical, but that's a big, huge undertaking.

01:54:56.000 So I just...

01:55:00.000 Give myself, say, okay, these few weeks I'm going to give myself from Monday to Friday from 10 to 2 every day.

01:55:06.000 That's when I'm going to work.

01:55:08.000 And then when I'm done with that, then I'll give myself some time off and then I'll say, okay, I'll gather the pieces, the notes, the stuff, and then I'll make another album I'll give myself.

01:55:17.000 I'll actually work.

01:55:19.000 I'll make a time every day to work.

01:55:21.000 And when you do that and you put together an album, do you say, okay, you know what? 0.99

01:55:24.000 Let's take this bitch on the road and see what's up. 1.00

01:55:26.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:55:27.000 That's the best part.

01:55:29.000 It's great to create out of nothing and make music.

01:55:33.000 I love it.

01:55:34.000 I would do it all the time for nothing.

01:55:37.000 And then when I get to take that and share it with 1,000, 2,000 people a night, and here they are, and they love that music, and I'm singing it, and it's an energy exchange.

01:55:50.000 Then it's just beyond.

01:55:51.000 That's just wonderful.

01:55:52.000 Yeah, the live energy exchange.

01:55:54.000 Isn't it amazing? 0.95

01:55:55.000 When they're your fans, and they came out, they're Melissa Etheridge fans, and you hit them with one of the clowns.

01:56:01.000 Classics and you see their eyes light up and they scream.

01:56:03.000 There's nothing like starting a song that people know.

01:56:05.000 It's really nice.

01:56:06.000 Oh, it must be an amazing feeling.

01:56:07.000 It's wonderful.

01:56:08.000 It's an amazing feeling to be an audience member and a song that you love comes on like that.

01:56:12.000 But to be able to do it, that must be crazy.

01:56:14.000 You're a weird conduit.

01:56:16.000 Yes, I am.

01:56:17.000 And that's what it really boils down to.

01:56:19.000 Absolutely.

01:56:19.000 You move the energy through you right out.

01:56:21.000 Yeah, people that think that's hippie crazy, like, there's something happening.

01:56:24.000 Why am I getting goosebumps?

01:56:26.000 There must be some...

01:56:27.000 Actually, somebody just sent me that the other day.

01:56:29.000 There's some sort of a scientific explanation for why music gives you goosebumps. 0.98

01:56:33.000 But I say, that's horseshit. 0.99

01:56:34.000 You don't know what the fuck that means. 1.00

01:56:35.000 How come it gives me goosebumps and not you? 0.98

01:56:38.000 Why am I responding to it, but to another person, it's not the right music, you know?

01:56:43.000 Your belief.

01:56:44.000 That's what's really important, too, to recognize that in a lot of people, it takes them a long time to figure this out.

01:56:49.000 Is that everybody likes different stuff.

01:56:52.000 They just do.

01:56:53.000 And there are some people that are not tuned into it for whatever reason.

01:56:59.000 It's a weird thing when you are a performer and you are beholden to people buying your records in that chart position or that certain position, that number.

01:57:12.000 And you think, oh my gosh, I want everyone to like me.

01:57:14.000 And it's just not possible.

01:57:16.000 It's not possible.

01:57:17.000 And that's a good thing.

01:57:18.000 Everybody.

01:57:19.000 And that's why you can't.

01:57:19.000 Then it helps in my belief when I say, oh, I believe that those who resonate with the music I make will come to it.

01:57:28.000 And it will just be fine.

01:57:29.000 Everybody else.

01:57:30.000 I'm not blaming you.

01:57:31.000 Judge.

01:57:31.000 And it's just that's what you are.

01:57:32.000 Yeah.

01:57:33.000 I mean, there's billions of people.

01:57:35.000 The people that they'll only love you for who you are if you are who you are.

01:57:40.000 And if you try to be a bunch of different people and a bunch of different things...

01:57:44.000 Well, we see that over and over.

01:57:46.000 We see these people just lose it because they have created a certain persona in the public eye.

01:57:51.000 And then they feel...

01:57:52.000 You start feeling like that persona, that's not you.

01:57:56.000 So any accolades that that persona gets is not you. 0.99

01:57:58.000 And then you're just miserable. 0.95

01:57:59.000 You start drinking. 1.00

01:58:00.000 Oh, you're fucking crazy. 1.00

01:58:01.000 You're on pills. 1.00

01:58:02.000 You're driving fast.

01:58:04.000 And they're taking your picture.

01:58:05.000 How do you avoid crazy rock star cliches like that? 0.97

01:58:09.000 Well, I figured I... I have two ex-wives, you know, two baby mamas. 0.99

01:58:14.000 I figure I fall into the rock and roll.

01:58:17.000 Two ex-wives.

01:58:19.000 Wow.

01:58:19.000 I know.

01:58:20.000 What is that like?

01:58:21.000 Do you stay in contact?

01:58:22.000 Oh, I have to.

01:58:23.000 I have two children with each of them.

01:58:25.000 Wow.

01:58:26.000 I know.

01:58:26.000 And I have to send them the check.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, that's hilarious.

01:58:30.000 It's the same cliche.

01:58:31.000 It appears in the male-female world.

01:58:34.000 It is.

01:58:34.000 The female-female world.

01:58:35.000 You gotta pay for it no matter what.

01:58:37.000 That's what they're saying.

01:58:40.000 Nobody rides for free.

01:58:42.000 Right?

01:58:43.000 Oh, so, you know what?

01:58:44.000 But I do.

01:58:45.000 We actually, because when it comes to the kids, we get along.

01:58:47.000 Okay, you know, I don't have to socialize with them.

01:58:51.000 Right.

01:58:51.000 And that's fine.

01:58:52.000 But for the kids, they need a happy, not happy, but they need a cohesive unit that they go back and forth from.

01:59:01.000 Right.

01:59:02.000 And so I'm determined to do that.

01:59:04.000 That's awesome.

01:59:05.000 The lesbian relationship dynamic, is it often like the male-female heterosexual dynamic?

01:59:13.000 It depends on who you are.

01:59:14.000 It depends on what you are.

01:59:15.000 Are there power couples where there's two Melissa Etheridge's and they're both badasses and they're together? 1.00

01:59:20.000 Wouldn't that be nice?

01:59:21.000 My partner now, her name is Linda, and she is a television producer, writer, director.

01:59:29.000 She did Nurse Jackie. 0.74

01:59:30.000 So she's successful.

01:59:31.000 Yes.

01:59:31.000 Great show.

01:59:32.000 Is that a great show?

01:59:33.000 Great show.

01:59:34.000 Oh my gosh.

01:59:34.000 So this badass is living together.

01:59:36.000 Exactly.

01:59:37.000 And that, it actually, because I believe, because I finally started believing in myself a few years ago, okay, I'm a badass, I'm a badass, then I'm going to draw, but that's what you got to do.

01:59:48.000 Then you've got to draw.

01:59:49.000 Then you will draw a badass to you because you are vibrating that. 0.99

01:59:54.000 That's the only way.

01:59:55.000 If you're sitting there going, I need someone to fix me, I need someone to come and be, then you're going to think yourself as broken and broken people will come to you.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, this is something that is driving scientists crazy right now. 0.99

02:00:07.000 They're hearing this and they're going this, damn Melissa Etheridge! 0.99

02:00:10.000 Yeah, I wouldn't be the first. 1.00

02:00:11.000 Nonsense!

02:00:12.000 What are you saying?

02:00:13.000 Show me the studies!

02:00:15.000 Show me peer-reviewed papers!

02:00:17.000 Or shut it! 1.00

02:00:20.000 I think there's a lot of merit to what you're saying.

02:00:22.000 I don't know if it's right, but I do believe that believing in it is very powerful.

02:00:26.000 And I think it's empowering.

02:00:27.000 And I think you're obviously a living embodiment of that.

02:00:30.000 And also a person who's experienced the ups and downs of not being aware of the body and then changing it and becoming aware and becoming much happier.

02:00:39.000 And I do not do it perfect every day.

02:00:42.000 Again, this is a practice.

02:00:43.000 I make my choices.

02:00:44.000 I live.

02:00:44.000 I go up and down.

02:00:45.000 But that's life.

02:00:46.000 Especially when you're busy.

02:00:47.000 It's hard.

02:00:48.000 It's hard to manage it all and keep cool and treat everybody as if it's you living another life.

02:00:53.000 Yes, it is.

02:00:54.000 It's difficult, though.

02:00:54.000 It's not easy.

02:00:55.000 Well, listen, just you being on here was a huge treat.

02:00:58.000 It was an honor, and it was weird, you know, because it was like, I kept telling people, dude, most athletes are just coming on here.

02:01:04.000 I told them, like, why?

02:01:05.000 It seems make-believe.

02:01:07.000 Aw, what's you?

02:01:08.000 Well, to us, to Brian and I, we started doing this in my living room on a laptop as a goof.

02:01:12.000 You know, it was just...

02:01:13.000 See?

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 But you believed, you loved it.

02:01:15.000 That's another thing.

02:01:16.000 Things that you love will grow.

02:01:17.000 Well, it became something somewhere along the line.

02:01:19.000 I don't know how it happened, but it just did, and we're just sort of riding it.

02:01:23.000 Well, I figured you would ask me the questions that I want to be asked.

02:01:26.000 I'm always available to talk like this, but most often than not, they'll ask me the same ten questions over and over.

02:01:33.000 Well, it's very obvious that this way of thinking is important to you.

02:01:37.000 You want to express it. 0.99

02:01:38.000 And you're very courageous in expressing it because it sounds fucking crazy. 0.98

02:01:42.000 Well, and why not? 0.98

02:01:43.000 What have I got to lose?

02:01:45.000 And I'm not saying it sounds crazy to me.

02:01:46.000 It does sound crazy to me.

02:01:48.000 It also sounds possible to me.

02:01:49.000 I think there's a lot of weirdness to the way we perceive the world.

02:01:54.000 There's a lot of strange...

02:01:55.000 If you can even start from that, as maybe that which I think is so definite is not.

02:02:01.000 If you can start from that, then you're on a journey.

02:02:03.000 I think having these conversations are very, very important.

02:02:06.000 I think having these conversations publicly and just the consideration it takes to not necessarily accept the idea, but just to consider the points of it.

02:02:14.000 As I said, I believe that that is possible, but I also believe in asteroids.

02:02:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:02:18.000 I believe that if you're in the wrong place, a tiger will eat your ass. 1.00

02:02:21.000 And it doesn't mean you're a bad person. 1.00

02:02:23.000 It means you live in India. 1.00

02:02:23.000 No, no. 1.00

02:02:24.000 I'm not saying there's nothing bad.

02:02:25.000 Yeah.

02:02:26.000 Exactly.

02:02:27.000 It's a beautiful way of looking at the world.

02:02:29.000 And again, you might be right.

02:02:31.000 There's a lot of flexibility to this thing that we exist in.

02:02:36.000 And it doesn't seem like...

02:02:37.000 We are operating on a long history of people's work where they've really figured it out. 0.98

02:02:44.000 It seems like, as a culture, we've been doing crazy barbaric shit to each other since the jump. 0.93

02:02:49.000 And we're now, just in this period of abundance, starting to go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.99

02:02:53.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:02:54.000 Let's Google that.

02:02:55.000 You know?

02:02:57.000 Yes!

02:02:57.000 Is that true?

02:02:59.000 Are you sure that's true?

02:03:00.000 What are we doing here exactly?

02:03:01.000 Where's the oil?

02:03:03.000 Who's got the oil?

02:03:04.000 Is that a real UFO? What the fuck is Bigfoot? 0.99

02:03:07.000 Right. 0.99

02:03:08.000 That's all happening right now.

02:03:09.000 Thank you very much, Melissa.

02:03:10.000 It was beautiful talking to you.

02:03:12.000 My pleasure.

02:03:12.000 A real pleasure and an honor.

02:03:13.000 And you too.

02:03:14.000 Thank you so much.

02:03:15.000 And your new CD, I have it here.

02:03:17.000 Oh yeah.

02:03:18.000 It's got some of this in it.

02:03:19.000 I do put that in my music too, you know.

02:03:21.000 Yeah, it's 4th Street Feeling.

02:03:24.000 And is it out everywhere?

02:03:25.000 Amazon?

02:03:26.000 iTunes, all that stuff.

02:03:27.000 You can find it.

02:03:28.000 That's a nice package.

02:03:30.000 You talking to me?

02:03:31.000 Yeah.

02:03:34.000 Unlike a lot of CDs, there's a lot of artwork put into the actual cover, which I really miss.

02:03:39.000 I mean, I'm not old enough to really remember too many records, but when I was a little kid, I had a Cheech and Chong record, and it was Big Bamboo.

02:03:47.000 And I opened it up, and it was like...

02:03:49.000 I didn't even know what Smokin' Pie was back then.

02:03:50.000 I was like eight.

02:03:52.000 I probably knew what it was, but I wasn't into it.

02:03:55.000 But it's not why.

02:03:56.000 I bought it because it was funny.

02:03:57.000 But their album cover was this big rolling paper thing.

02:04:01.000 And you would open it up, and there was so much work put into it.

02:04:04.000 Yeah, really an art form that I do miss.

02:04:07.000 Yeah, the deluxe version.

02:04:08.000 My record company's great.

02:04:09.000 They'll put out the regular version, which has the...

02:04:11.000 I think there's 11 songs on there, 12 maybe.

02:04:14.000 And this is the deluxe version that I have a lot of fans that really appreciate the extra artwork and the extra songs and so we put that on it.

02:04:21.000 Yeah, it's great photography.

02:04:22.000 Whoever did that, they really sort of captured like the tone of a lot of the music on here.

02:04:27.000 It's really awesome.

02:04:28.000 What is that car?

02:04:30.000 That is a replica.

02:04:32.000 It is a 64 Chevy Impala.

02:04:34.000 I asked them to get it because that's the first car I had when I was a kid.

02:04:37.000 That was the first car I ever bought when I was 15. I got it.

02:04:41.000 Wow, that's a tank.

02:04:43.000 Yeah, that's what I said with the big bench seats in the back and the front.

02:04:47.000 It was awesome.

02:04:48.000 It's amazing that people drove those with no seatbelts.

02:04:51.000 They had babies in them! 0.98

02:04:54.000 I don't know how we survived.

02:04:56.000 How did we survive?

02:04:57.000 We didn't have baby seats.

02:04:58.000 Nobody had figured that out.

02:05:00.000 We had no helmets.

02:05:01.000 We had no seatbelts. 0.98

02:05:02.000 Yeah, when you fall down you got fucked up when I was a kid. 0.98

02:05:06.000 And everybody's parents smoked with their windows open. 0.99

02:05:10.000 I remember just sitting there in a cloud of smoke.

02:05:12.000 Horrible.

02:05:13.000 Yeah, strange times.

02:05:14.000 All right, go get it, you freaks.

02:05:16.000 Fourth Street Feeling.

02:05:17.000 Melissa, thank you very much.

02:05:18.000 Thank you so much, Joe.

02:05:19.000 Everybody, thank you.

02:05:20.000 It was awesome.

02:05:20.000 It was a lot of fun.

02:05:21.000 And don't think that if Melissa talks to you on Twitter that it's really Melissa, all right?

02:05:26.000 Now you know.

02:05:28.000 It's Team Melissa, unless she says it.

02:05:31.000 Right. 1.00

02:05:31.000 All right, you fucks. 1.00

02:05:32.000 Thank you very much for tuning in. 0.99

02:05:34.000 Thank you to Ting.

02:05:35.000 Go to rogan.ting.com and save 25 bucks off of Thanks to Onnit.com All right,

02:06:03.000 we will see you tomorrow with the great Ari Shaffir, where he would talk about his hate for the TSA and the great story of what happened this weekend.

02:06:11.000 And I really wish I filmed it because it's going to be... 0.91

02:06:13.000 Shut up. 0.96

02:06:14.000 I couldn't film it because I think you'd go to jail for doing that or something. 1.00

02:06:17.000 Patriot Act type shit. 1.00

02:06:18.000 Alright, fucks. 1.00

02:06:19.000 We'll see you tomorrow. 0.99

02:06:20.000 We love you always, even though you are an illusion that I've created in my own mind.

02:06:27.000 It's a good one.

02:06:28.000 No, I'm an illusion that you've created in your mind.

02:06:31.000 Or both.

02:06:32.000 But it's awesome.

02:06:33.000 Alright, see you soon.

02:06:34.000 Love ya.

The Joe Rogan Experience - February 04, 2013

Joe Rogan Experience #321 - Melissa Etheridge

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