The Joe Rogan Experience - May 08, 2013


Joe Rogan Experience #356 - Dan Hardy

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2 hours and 21 minutes

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27,154

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2,911

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In this week's episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, the boys talk about the impending doom that is the end of Hotmail, Ari Shafir's new website, and why they don't want you to go to dickpartyin'mouth anymore. They also talk about why they think it's a good idea to get rid of your old hotmail address and why you should probably get off of it. Also, they talk about how they would like to see the name of the podcast changed to and why it should be called . And they discuss why they like the way Hotmail is now called "The Hotmail Guys". Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Hosted by Joseph McDade and Matt Knost, and produced by Patrick Muldowney, and edited by Alex Blumberg, and Matthew Boll, with additional editing and mixing by Matthew Boll. Thanks to our sponsor, Hootsuite! Thanks for listening and supporting the pod! ! Joe and the boys are working on a new ad-free version of the show, and we'll be giving you 10% off your first month of your first purchase when you use the code "ROGAN5" when you go to checkout. Joe & the boys use code JOE5. to save 10% on their first purchase, and you get 10% all month. and get 20% off their first month. Joe and they'll give you 5% off the entire month of the resturant, plus a freebie, plus free shipping, shipping, and free shipping on their next month, and they're giving you an ad-only shipping, plus they'll also give you an extra $10% off a month, plus you'll get a discount on the first month, they'll get an extra promo code "Joe and the name "Joe & the name is flying by Joe goes to Joe gets 10% by Joe gets a chance to redeem $5 and the rest of Joe gets $5, AND they'll receive $5 gets an ad on the whole day of Joe and The Name is flying 10% and they get $5 & they get an ad, they also gets a FREE promo code ROGAN AND THE BOYS get a FREE PROMO AND THE FOGAN BONUS VIPIZED $5 AND THE KIDS GET A FREE PROGAN.

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00:00:03.000 Even though it's early in the morning, I did the smart thing before this podcast started and I muted my fucking laptop. 0.99
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00:00:27.000 Yeah, it's early, but also I don't pay attention.
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00:00:34.000 You know, I think that thing with getting dickpartyinmymouth.com is destroying my website.
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00:02:44.000 Don't go there.
00:02:45.000 Hotmail is gone anyway now.
00:02:46.000 Is it gone?
00:02:47.000 Yeah.
00:02:47.000 Wow.
00:02:48.000 I think Ari Shafir actually- Is it really gone?
00:02:50.000 I think they just got rid of it and Ari Shafir still has a Hotmail address.
00:02:55.000 And I've been telling him, seriously, for like 10 years, like, please, stop.
00:02:59.000 You've got to get off this thing.
00:03:00.000 They're going to close it.
00:03:01.000 Isn't it Microsoft?
00:03:02.000 Don't they own Hotmail?
00:03:03.000 Yeah, they're probably cool.
00:03:04.000 Why would Microsoft close anything?
00:03:06.000 Because it's called Hotmail.
00:03:07.000 They probably want to rebrand it and name it like the Hotmail guys.
00:03:10.000 I think Hotmail's badass.
00:03:12.000 There's nothing wrong with it.
00:03:13.000 I like the name.
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00:03:14.000 That's a meme right there.
00:03:15.000 I think Hotmail's badass.
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00:03:20.000 I was a late abandoner of AOL. What can I say?
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00:04:43.000 I like This quote, powerful Joe Rogan.
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00:05:03.000 One of them...
00:05:05.000 I haven't done number two, which is supposed to be even more crazy, but...
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00:05:24.000 But then the fucking video keeps going, and then he starts off all fresh. 0.99
00:05:28.000 Like the dude had a Gatorade, got his foot massage. 1.00
00:05:31.000 Fuck you, Keith Webber. 1.00
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00:05:34.000 Nobody's that fit. 1.00
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00:06:55.000 Dan Hardy's here. 1.00
00:06:57.000 Don't talk gay shit underneath the commercial. 1.00
00:07:01.000 What are you doing, son? 1.00
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00:07:04.000 I know you're tired.
00:07:05.000 Keep it together.
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00:07:07.000 It just says, your iPad's disabled for five minutes. 0.99
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00:07:10.000 It's the government. 1.00
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00:07:27.000 Powerful Dan Hardy.
00:07:29.000 What's up, buddy?
00:07:29.000 How are you, man?
00:07:30.000 Thanks for coming by, man.
00:07:31.000 I'm very excited to have this conversation with you.
00:07:34.000 And the internet has been abuzz.
00:07:38.000 You're a misunderstood dude, man.
00:07:41.000 Am I? Yeah, I think so.
00:07:42.000 A lot of people, especially seeing your trash talking and hyping up the GSP fight and knocked a fake tan off you. 1.00
00:07:50.000 People would think that you're an asshole. 1.00
00:07:52.000 You're not an asshole at all. 1.00
00:07:53.000 You're a super chill guy. 0.98
00:07:55.000 I don't think I've ever been around you and felt like, wow, Zan Hardy's just too much. 0.99
00:08:00.000 I gotta get the fuck away from him. 0.98
00:08:02.000 You're really easy to get along with. 0.99
00:08:04.000 You're a very friendly guy. 0.99
00:08:05.000 You just are really good at talking shit when it comes down to fight time and pissing people off. 0.99
00:08:10.000 And that really is something that people have to understand. 1.00
00:08:15.000 There's a pageantry involved in promoting a fight and in fucking with someone's head that you're going to fight. 0.92
00:08:23.000 People don't like it when other people are better at that aspect of fighting. 0.97
00:08:27.000 They get mad.
00:08:29.000 People get mad. 1.00
00:08:29.000 If you can talk mad shit about them, if they're not good at talking shit back, they go into the fight with a deficit already. 1.00
00:08:37.000 It's kind of crazy. 1.00
00:08:39.000 It was the culture I was brought up in.
00:08:43.000 You know, banter between teammates at Rough House is pretty much bullying.
00:08:46.000 I mean, it gets pretty serious.
00:08:48.000 I'm sure some of the guys go home and cry after the sessions.
00:08:52.000 So it's just kind of a natural thing for me.
00:08:54.000 And then when somebody bites a little bit to a comment that I made, I can't help myself.
00:08:58.000 It's too much fun.
00:09:01.000 English is very similar to Boston in that way.
00:09:04.000 Boston has that same real insulting style to the trash talk within sports teams and athletes.
00:09:14.000 It's just part of the whole thing.
00:09:16.000 And some people don't like it.
00:09:18.000 And I could get that.
00:09:19.000 I get that.
00:09:20.000 Some people want that zen state Anderson Silva approach where you just go in.
00:09:24.000 But people forget about Anderson Silva and Abu Dhabi. 0.98
00:09:27.000 They forget when he was fighting with Damian Maia, calling him all kinds of shit in Portuguese. 0.99
00:09:32.000 He was fucking with that dude's head while he was lighting him up. 0.99
00:09:35.000 You know? 1.00
00:09:36.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:09:37.000 That's even crazy trash talk. 1.00
00:09:39.000 The trash talk that goes on while you're kicking someone's ass. 1.00
00:09:41.000 I remember watching him fight in Lee Murray. 0.99
00:09:43.000 I was at the side of the cage about fighting.
00:09:46.000 And the Tony Frickland one.
00:09:48.000 Oh, dude, you were there for that?
00:09:50.000 Yeah, that was insane.
00:09:51.000 The people who haven't seen...
00:09:53.000 Anderson Silva became Anderson Silva when he went to Japan and when he went to England.
00:09:59.000 But England was really where it all came together for him.
00:10:03.000 Japan, he got some good fights, but he had some losses.
00:10:06.000 You know, the Rio Chonin flying heel hook.
00:10:08.000 That was weird, yeah.
00:10:09.000 Yeah, I mean, he had some good fights.
00:10:11.000 Who was that kid who was calling him?
00:10:13.000 Alex Stiebling, the kid who was calling himself the Brazilian killer.
00:10:16.000 Remember they all got pissed off at him?
00:10:18.000 Anderson, he beat him, he caught him with a high kick.
00:10:22.000 And then he knocked out Carlos Newton.
00:10:24.000 That was probably his most spectacular fight over there.
00:10:28.000 Yeah, and it was after Carlos dominated him on the ground.
00:10:31.000 Carlos was very good, very advanced at that time.
00:10:34.000 He had the most advanced ground game of guys that were fighting in high level.
00:10:38.000 And he had Anderson down, he had mounted him, and it did not look like Anderson was getting up.
00:10:42.000 But I think they gave him a yellow card or something like that.
00:10:45.000 I don't know how they got stood back up again.
00:10:47.000 I don't know what happened.
00:10:48.000 But they got stood back up again and bang!
00:10:50.000 He hit him with a flying knee and knocked him out.
00:10:51.000 And it was after that, he got his footing with a couple of good fights, but it wasn't until he went to England and fought in cage rage that that's when he became Anderson Silva.
00:11:01.000 He was so comfortable.
00:11:04.000 I really felt watching the Lee Murray fight that he could have stopped at any point.
00:11:08.000 You know, he was really just kind of torturing him a little bit and beating him up. 0.82
00:11:11.000 Yeah, he was beating the fuck out of Lee Murray. 0.99
00:11:14.000 He was fucking his legs up, man. 1.00
00:11:16.000 And, you know, Murray is tough as shit. 1.00
00:11:19.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:11:19.000 He hung in there, man, the entire time. 1.00
00:11:21.000 He stabbed like 38 times or something.
00:11:23.000 Yeah, and was training six weeks later.
00:11:25.000 He made a video about him hitting the mitts six weeks later.
00:11:27.000 If people don't know who we're talking about, this guy is like really a legitimate folklore type character.
00:11:34.000 He's a Guy Ritchie movie character.
00:11:35.000 Yeah, and he's almost greater than a Guy Ritchie character because you would never believe a Guy Ritchie character really could be like a top MMA fighter and also one of the greatest armed robbery suspects in the history of the universe.
00:11:49.000 No, no, it's pretty crazy.
00:11:51.000 I remember sitting in traffic on the way to Cage Rage.
00:11:53.000 I had Paul Daly in the car.
00:11:57.000 Stuck in traffic, but not far from the arena.
00:11:59.000 And Lee Murray just racing up the hard shoulder in his...
00:12:01.000 I think it was a BMW or something.
00:12:03.000 Like 70 miles an hour.
00:12:06.000 He was crazy!
00:12:07.000 Did you see him falling out with Matt Lindland after that fight?
00:12:10.000 Lindland fought a cage rage and they brought Murray in to kind of hype up a fight between the two.
00:12:14.000 I didn't see that.
00:12:15.000 Yeah, Lee Murray was... 1.00
00:12:16.000 You're a fucking monkey. 1.00
00:12:18.000 You're like a fucking monkey. 1.00
00:12:20.000 And Matt Lindland was just... 1.00
00:12:21.000 He didn't even think it was real.
00:12:22.000 It was pretty hilarious.
00:12:24.000 Lee Murray's throwing stuff at him.
00:12:26.000 Well, he was real. 0.95
00:12:27.000 He just really was that crazy.
00:12:29.000 Every now and then, a dude comes along like that. 0.74
00:12:32.000 We're lucky that he didn't come along in the dark ages.
00:12:37.000 You know what I mean?
00:12:38.000 I'm sure there were people like him, though. 1.00
00:12:40.000 Fuck yeah, there were! 1.00
00:12:41.000 That guy would have had like the scariest gang ever. 1.00
00:12:45.000 Back when there was like very little rules, you could have swords and shit. 0.99
00:12:48.000 Oh my goodness. 0.96
00:12:50.000 Yeah, he'd have run like a bunch of outlaws in the forest.
00:12:53.000 You gotta think man, that time in our lives for the human race, That wasn't only like a thousand years ago.
00:13:00.000 That's not that long ago.
00:13:04.000 That's not that long ago.
00:13:06.000 That's so recent.
00:13:07.000 The DNA is still there.
00:13:09.000 Public beheadings and stuff. 0.99
00:13:11.000 And every now and then you get some straight lineage type shit. 0.92
00:13:15.000 You get a dude who just has basically barbarian genes and he's walking amongst regular folks here in 2013. He's not playing by any rules. 0.97
00:13:25.000 He's got no rules.
00:13:27.000 He's just going for it until he hits a wall.
00:13:30.000 Just full clip until he hits a wall.
00:13:33.000 It's important to know that it's possible that a guy like that could exist.
00:13:36.000 And people get romantic about it and upset, but you could not get upset about it today.
00:13:41.000 You can not get romantic about it today.
00:13:43.000 You could say, oh, you're glorifying something. 0.99
00:13:46.000 You're glorifying something pathetic. 0.98
00:13:48.000 What if this guy inspires other kids to live that way? 0.91
00:13:51.000 Okay, but make no mistake about it, a hundred years from now it's gonna be an awesome story.
00:13:55.000 Okay, two hundred years ago when you're not connected from now, like when we're not connected to it emotionally, it's gonna be an awesome story.
00:14:02.000 But we study these people now, though.
00:14:03.000 I mean, look at like, you know, like Bronson.
00:14:06.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:14:07.000 A lot of folks don't know that documentary, the Bronson documentary.
00:14:11.000 It was really weird.
00:14:12.000 Yeah.
00:14:12.000 Chopper was really weird, too.
00:14:14.000 Yeah, but they're those kind of people.
00:14:16.000 Yeah.
00:14:16.000 Like, Lee Murray's got to have a movie made about him or something.
00:14:19.000 Oh, fuck yeah, unquestionably. 1.00
00:14:21.000 And he could fucking fight, man. 1.00
00:14:22.000 He could fight. 0.99
00:14:23.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:24.000 I saw him fight Amir Renovati, starched him.
00:14:27.000 It was so ruthless. 1.00
00:14:30.000 His right hand was fucking nasty. 0.99
00:14:32.000 He was a really, really sharp striker, really powerful guy. 0.99
00:14:36.000 I mean, he wasn't like the most technical guy, which is where Anderson picked him apart.
00:14:40.000 Such fast hands though.
00:14:41.000 He was very fast and very confident, very confident.
00:14:45.000 You know, it took a guy like Anderson to sort of pick him apart, a guy who just was Clearly, Anderson's on some next level in every department. 0.99
00:14:54.000 He's on some next level physical shit. 1.00
00:14:57.000 He's on some next level mental shit. 1.00
00:14:59.000 He's on some next level confidence shit. 1.00
00:15:01.000 He's on some next level success shit. 1.00
00:15:03.000 He really feels like he's magic. 1.00
00:15:04.000 He feels like he can go in there and just do shit to people. 1.00
00:15:07.000 He can, and he does. 1.00
00:15:09.000 You're right.
00:15:10.000 It takes a guy like that to do that to a guy like Lee Murray.
00:15:14.000 When you see Anderson at his best, it's one of the weirdest things, because you can't believe a guy can do what he just did.
00:15:23.000 When we were there in Brazil and he fought Stefan Bonner, dude, that was like I was watching a movie.
00:15:32.000 The guy just put his back to the cage and let him tee off on him, and then brought him back in, got to the center and brought him right back in, puts his hands down, stands right in front of him, and then when he decides to strike, throws him to the ground and buries him with one knee.
00:15:46.000 And you're like, Jesus!
00:15:48.000 But it was like the Forrest Griffin fight, though.
00:15:51.000 He'd been baiting him to overextend on his punches all the way through the round, and then as soon as he did it and crossed his feet...
00:15:58.000 That was surreal.
00:16:00.000 Yeah, he's a master.
00:16:01.000 He's a real master.
00:16:02.000 It's kind of an honor to be around witnessing it live.
00:16:05.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:16:07.000 It's an honor to be able to call it, for sure.
00:16:08.000 It's really shocking.
00:16:10.000 His abilities are very shocking.
00:16:13.000 But you know, one day we're going to look back at him and we're going to look at some new guy.
00:16:17.000 Just the way people used to look at Sugar Ray Robinson and Roy Jones Jr. Sugar Ray Robinson was amazing.
00:16:23.000 But I think Roy Jones Jr. in his prime would have lit him up like a Christmas tree. 0.99
00:16:27.000 I don't think he would have even been able to fuck with him. 0.99
00:16:29.000 He wouldn't have been able to find him. 0.99
00:16:30.000 But then look at Mayweather.
00:16:31.000 As much as I disliked the guy.
00:16:33.000 Yeah.
00:16:33.000 Beautiful boxer.
00:16:34.000 Yeah, amazing.
00:16:35.000 The problem with Roy was all that John Ruiz fight.
00:16:40.000 He went up in weight and won the heavyweight fight.
00:16:43.000 That documentary was good, though.
00:16:44.000 Did you watch it?
00:16:44.000 What is it?
00:16:45.000 The documentary about his training for that.
00:16:46.000 Oh, no.
00:16:47.000 No, I didn't.
00:16:48.000 It was really interesting.
00:16:49.000 He got this little old white dude doing all his strength and conditioning.
00:16:53.000 Was it Mackie Shillstone?
00:16:56.000 Mackie Shillstone is the guy who trained Michael Spinks for his heavyweight fights with Larry Holmes and then again for Tyson, I think.
00:17:12.000 Yeah.
00:17:13.000 I remember watching one of the HBO shows with Roy Jones preparing for a fight and it was when I was training at Legends and there was this shot where he was training to run DMC and he's doing his shadow boxing to the rhythm of the music so I immediately downloaded Run DMC and started doing it at the gym in the ring at Legends.
00:17:34.000 It was a good time.
00:17:35.000 Yeah, he worked with Roy Jones.
00:17:38.000 Yeah, he was an interesting character.
00:17:41.000 Well, it's interesting because what happened was then Roy, he looked spectacular in the Ruiz fight, but then he drops down to fight Antonio Tarver.
00:17:49.000 He has to lose a lot of weight because he's a 205 pound, 206 pound guy now.
00:17:54.000 I mean, he was a small heavyweight, but I think he still got above 200 pounds, which to drop all the way the fuck down to 175 again, that is a big deal.
00:18:03.000 It is.
00:18:03.000 It's way easier to talk your body into getting bigger than it is to talk your body into getting smaller.
00:18:08.000 Like, you have to fucking starve yourself. 0.96
00:18:10.000 Especially in a sport like boxing, where you've got to continuously work for a long period of time. 0.98
00:18:14.000 Yeah, he looked completely different in that fight physically.
00:18:18.000 Like, his body looked deflated, you know?
00:18:21.000 Like, cutting weight like that, it just ruined him.
00:18:24.000 And then he got knocked out by Tarver, and then he got knocked out again, even scarier, by Glenn Johnson.
00:18:29.000 And those fights, I think, are a direct result of him weakening himself. 0.94
00:18:35.000 to drop down to 175 pounds or a direct result also of whatever the fuck he took to get up to 200 plus pounds not being in his system anymore and his system crashes. 0.95
00:18:47.000 Which is what happens, especially if you're like in your late 30s and you're a pro athlete who's getting head trauma on a regular basis. 0.89
00:18:56.000 Those are all things designed to lower your testosterone.
00:18:59.000 All those things. 1.00
00:19:00.000 You know, it's almost like nature has it set up like you can only get hit in the head so many times for it to start, okay, slow the fuck down, bitch. 1.00
00:19:07.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
00:19:08.000 Like literally slows down your testosterone from head trauma. 1.00
00:19:11.000 It's like, look, we've got to figure out a way to stop getting hit in the head and maybe this asshole is just fucking... 1.00
00:19:16.000 Too aggro. 1.00
00:19:18.000 Nature doesn't know that you got a fucking fighting career to think about. 0.99
00:19:21.000 Yeah, I hated watching him fight Calzaghe. 0.99
00:19:24.000 Yeah, did you?
00:19:25.000 I don't particularly like Calzaghe either, and it was just rough to watch.
00:19:29.000 He's a shell of himself.
00:19:30.000 He's a shell of himself.
00:19:31.000 I don't think Calzaghe could have hung with Roy when Roy was in his prime.
00:19:35.000 When Roy fought Vinny Pazienza, it was the first fight ever recorded where the opponent did not land a single punch.
00:19:43.000 He went through a whole round boxing with Vinnie Pazienza. 0.91
00:19:47.000 When Pazienza was in his prime, And Pouncey ends up swinging for fucking fences and getting nothing for a whole round. 0.98
00:19:54.000 Wow. 0.99
00:19:55.000 I mean, that's insane.
00:19:56.000 You're both punching and this guy hits you 60 times and you hit him zero.
00:20:01.000 That's insane.
00:20:02.000 We should get Anderson Silva to break that record.
00:20:04.000 Like number of punches missing in a round or something.
00:20:07.000 What you need with an Anderson Silva, you're going to need a Roy Jones type dude to beat Anderson Silva.
00:20:12.000 Yeah. 0.58
00:20:13.000 You're going to need a guy who's got that kind of butt with Muay Thai. 0.99
00:20:17.000 Those guys are out there, man. 0.54
00:20:19.000 They're out there.
00:20:19.000 They just gotta put it together.
00:20:21.000 We all knew, like, you came up doing martial arts a good portion of your life, right? 0.99
00:20:26.000 So you must have went to karate tournaments and saw those few young kids that weren't super talented, where everybody was like, God damn! 0.95
00:20:34.000 But sometimes they never come to fruition. 0.59
00:20:35.000 They never become the martial arts legends that they could have been.
00:20:39.000 In my experience with that, though, people that find it that easy and pick it up that quickly usually lose interest.
00:20:44.000 Isn't that weird?
00:20:45.000 Yeah.
00:20:45.000 It's kind of frustrating.
00:20:46.000 There's only very few that stick with it.
00:20:48.000 Yeah.
00:20:48.000 And that's when you get someone like Anderson Silva.
00:20:50.000 Or Jon Jones.
00:20:51.000 Or Jon Jones.
00:20:52.000 Yeah, there's those guys who have that lethal combination of, like, dedication and that freak.
00:21:00.000 And freak bodies, man. 0.99
00:21:01.000 So people can do some freak shit. 1.00
00:21:04.000 There's certain dudes that are like, John Jones can do some freak shit to people. 0.99
00:21:08.000 You know, like, he can, you know, he's spinning elbows, people in the head, he's giant, you can't get a hold of him, he out-wrestles everybody. 0.98
00:21:14.000 He's all limbs, though, isn't he? 0.99
00:21:15.000 He's all limbs! 1.00
00:21:16.000 I can't imagine, I can't imagine throwing any strike at him that wouldn't hit something sharp.
00:21:20.000 Doesn't he?
00:21:21.000 Yeah.
00:21:21.000 He'd be like kicking a bag of wrenches.
00:21:23.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:21:24.000 He's fucking scary right now. 0.99
00:21:26.000 Dude, he's scary right now. 1.00
00:21:27.000 He's on this next-level scary shit right now, where he's just, like, so confident, just decides to maul Chael Sonnen. 0.99
00:21:35.000 He's like 15 or something. 0.99
00:21:36.000 He's like...
00:21:37.000 I think he's just turned 24 or 25. I'm getting old, man.
00:21:41.000 Yeah, well, it is a young man's game. 0.99
00:21:43.000 It is.
00:21:44.000 What is this condition that pulled you out of your next fight?
00:21:48.000 The wolf heart thing.
00:21:50.000 What is it called?
00:21:51.000 Is that like a baboon heart?
00:21:52.000 Yeah, it's exactly the same.
00:21:55.000 What does it mean?
00:21:58.000 It's called Wolf-Parkinson-White Syndrome, but I don't have the syndrome because I've never had any symptoms.
00:22:03.000 I only have pattern, which means that I have a second heartbeat, but It's never caused a problem.
00:22:09.000 You have a second heartbeat.
00:22:10.000 Yeah, well basically, you know, in the center of your heart, you've got like the regular pacemaker.
00:22:14.000 It's a bunch of cells that, you know, they create electrical impulse to keep the heart beating.
00:22:21.000 And with WPW, people have other cells in the upper parts of the heart that do the same thing.
00:22:28.000 And usually what they would do is they go in, it's called an ablation, they kind of go into The femoral artery and they can burn them out and stuff.
00:22:36.000 But people have that done when they have symptoms, when they have palpitations and dizziness and people have panic attacks and stuff.
00:22:43.000 I've never had anything.
00:22:45.000 Nothing at all.
00:22:46.000 So what they're telling me at the moment, I've got to go back and get some more tests done for a second opinion with a different person.
00:22:55.000 But basically, the way I understand it right now is if I want to continue fighting, to get cleared I have to have the ablation. 0.99
00:23:03.000 But because I've never had any symptoms and I'm perfectly fine, I don't see the point in letting someone go and start burning my shit. 0.96
00:23:10.000 Yeah, that sounds like something they were probably not going to do in five years. 0.98
00:23:16.000 They're going to go, well, back when we used to go in there and burn it out, we realized that's actually a mistake.
00:23:21.000 That was actually, you know, the human body figured it out and everything was cool and running smooth and we were being ridiculous.
00:23:28.000 I mean, if it was causing a problem, and that's the solution, then I would have it done, but it's not.
00:23:32.000 So their concern is that if they license you, and this is a potential issue, a health issue?
00:23:38.000 Well, there was that soccer player a few years ago.
00:23:41.000 I think he played for, like, Chelsea or something.
00:23:42.000 And he had a heart attack on the pitch and died.
00:23:44.000 He was, like, 28. Really?
00:23:46.000 And basically, the problem is that the main heart rate can only go up to about 220 beats a minute.
00:23:53.000 But the secondary cells that produce the second heart rate, or the heartbeat, is...
00:23:58.000 That's limitless.
00:23:59.000 That can go to whatever.
00:24:02.000 If I'm at 12 minutes into the fight and I'm full of adrenaline and completely exhausted and my heart rate can't keep up, there's a potential for the other one to take over.
00:24:12.000 And it can give you a hard time.
00:24:14.000 But the chances decrease after 25 and the chance of it happening is 0.6%.
00:24:22.000 So, you know.
00:24:23.000 Well, you also have like a really low resting heart rate.
00:24:26.000 Yeah, 42. That's very low.
00:24:27.000 It was when I got the tests.
00:24:29.000 Michael Bisping is like 34. Yeah.
00:24:32.000 That's insane.
00:24:33.000 That's incredible, man.
00:24:34.000 He doesn't have to feed his brain though, don't forget.
00:24:40.000 Oh, no you didn't.
00:24:43.000 Bisping knows I'm kidding.
00:24:45.000 He might have like the lowest working heart rate, you know, the resting heart rate of anybody in the UFC. Yeah.
00:24:52.000 That's pretty impressive.
00:24:53.000 That's work.
00:24:54.000 You only get that from work.
00:24:56.000 He's that kind of guy though.
00:24:57.000 He's always like switched on, you know what I mean? 1.00
00:25:00.000 That's a fit motherfucker. 0.99
00:25:04.000 It's very interesting what you said about natural talent and the guys with natural talent. 0.99
00:25:09.000 Oftentimes they're the ones who, for whatever reason, don't work as hard.
00:25:13.000 Well, Bisping was that guy that had the talent and he's just a natural fighter.
00:25:19.000 His whole family are just tough guys.
00:25:22.000 I mean, I started training with Mike before he even had his first fight.
00:25:26.000 Um, and I was training with his coach and his coach had actually invested money in like bringing him down to Nottingham to train to like, cause he was a DJ at the time.
00:25:34.000 I don't know whether most people know this, but you know, DJ Mikey B. And, um, you know, he was like in that, you know, the, the, the dance and the rave scene and he was, you know, all that kind of stuff, the glow sticks and shit.
00:25:46.000 Um, yeah.
00:25:48.000 So, so my instructor like, like bought him a car and bought him down to Nottingham and like, Fed him and stuff with the intention of making him an MMA star.
00:25:57.000 Wow.
00:25:58.000 Because he had this natural ability.
00:25:59.000 And he is.
00:25:59.000 He's just a tough guy.
00:26:01.000 He's a very tough guy.
00:26:02.000 You knock that dude out, he gets up, and he's like, I want a rematch.
00:26:06.000 Immediately.
00:26:08.000 It's pretty interesting.
00:26:10.000 That guy doesn't lose any steam if he loses.
00:26:13.000 He just goes back to the drawing board, dusts himself off, heals up, and has exactly the same style the next fight.
00:26:19.000 Even better.
00:26:19.000 He's got a sprinkling of that barbarian in him.
00:26:21.000 Fuck him! 1.00
00:26:22.000 There's a lot of that shit out there, man. 1.00
00:26:24.000 A lot of that barbarian blood. 1.00
00:26:26.000 It's out there.
00:26:27.000 So, what are you going to do now?
00:26:31.000 Well, I'm going to go back and get some more tests done.
00:26:34.000 Lorenzo has a special cardiologist that he wants me to go and see, so I'm going to get that done and just kind of see what my options are.
00:26:40.000 I don't see the point in having a surgery done if I have to have it done to carry on fighting.
00:26:46.000 It seems scary.
00:26:47.000 It just seems pointless to me, especially because, you know, like...
00:26:50.000 Is it risky?
00:26:51.000 Well, the problem is that they don't know whereabouts in my heart it is.
00:26:54.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:26:56.000 They've got to go look for this.
00:26:57.000 They've got to go look for it.
00:26:58.000 So they didn't say they could fix it.
00:26:59.000 They said they want to study it.
00:27:00.000 They want to study it.
00:27:02.000 They want to study it.
00:27:02.000 And they wanted to study this four weeks before the fight.
00:27:04.000 So they wanted me to go in and have something put up the inside of the artery of both my legs and one into my neck so they can go in and try and find it.
00:27:13.000 They put you under while you're doing this or you're just chilling?
00:27:15.000 I don't think so. 1.00
00:27:15.000 Oh, what the fuck is that, Dan Hardy? 1.00
00:27:18.000 Like an experiment. 0.99
00:27:19.000 How's that possible?
00:27:20.000 You just lying there?
00:27:21.000 I think so, yeah.
00:27:22.000 That's not cool.
00:27:23.000 Yeah.
00:27:24.000 That is so not cool.
00:27:25.000 So the guy was like, oh, so we'll do that, and if we can find it, we can fix it, and then you'll be able to, you know, take a week off and then go back to training. 0.98
00:27:31.000 Who the fuck thinks you can just chill while they send these, like, wire worms up your arteries? 1.00
00:27:38.000 Fuck that. 1.00
00:27:38.000 To peek inside your fucking heart. 1.00
00:27:40.000 My dad said he had to get that thing up his penis hole. 1.00
00:27:43.000 When you turn a certain age, I think it's 60, you have to get that in your penis. 1.00
00:27:48.000 I love the artery. 1.00
00:27:49.000 Definitely.
00:27:50.000 But I've had people tweeting me and stuff, and they're like...
00:27:54.000 You know, my six-year-old had it done. 1.00
00:27:56.000 Stop being such a pussy. 1.00
00:27:57.000 Oh, how dare you? 1.00
00:28:00.000 We have more time.
00:28:02.000 There's people that just can't wait to be cunty, Dan Hardy.
00:28:04.000 And you've got to feel sorry for them.
00:28:06.000 I'm like a magnet for them.
00:28:08.000 Of course!
00:28:09.000 You're a brash young man. 1.00
00:28:11.000 You talk a lot of shit, and that's one of the things that people like about it. 1.00
00:28:15.000 It generates interest. 1.00
00:28:16.000 You know how much hate Chael Sonnen must get?
00:28:18.000 All day, every day?
00:28:19.000 Yeah.
00:28:20.000 All day, every day, his Twitter must be a mess.
00:28:22.000 Yeah, but he's got the bank account to match it, though, so it's all right.
00:28:25.000 So that's the problem with me, you know?
00:28:27.000 Yeah, he really talked himself into some great situations. 0.99
00:28:31.000 He's the best shit talker ever. 0.99
00:28:33.000 He's exciting to watch. 1.00
00:28:35.000 I love interviewing him at a weigh-in because I know he's going to say some crazy shit. 1.00
00:28:39.000 That's the kind of shit that's going to go down in history. 1.00
00:28:41.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
00:28:42.000 I always remember one line he said when he was preparing for Anderson. 1.00
00:28:46.000 I'm not sure which time it was, and he said, he is the champion, but I am the best.
00:28:51.000 That's a great line.
00:28:53.000 I want to use that every day at some point.
00:28:56.000 And he's so good even after he loses in selling another fight like that.
00:29:01.000 Just think about what happened.
00:29:03.000 The dude got starched by Anderson Silva, and then he says, you know what?
00:29:08.000 Anderson Silva is only the beginning.
00:29:10.000 I'm going to go after the light heavyweight champion.
00:29:12.000 All of a sudden, he's fighting the light heavyweight champion.
00:29:15.000 He goes from losing a shot at the middleweight belt to fighting for the light heavyweight belt.
00:29:21.000 That's impressive.
00:29:22.000 Dana's like, he's the one who asked for that fight.
00:29:25.000 I understand that.
00:29:26.000 He is a politician.
00:29:28.000 Yeah, I understand that he's the one that asked for that fight. 1.00
00:29:30.000 But that's, I mean, you got to respect the guy's ability to sell shit. 1.00
00:29:34.000 I mean, he can sell a fucking pay-per-view, man. 0.99
00:29:38.000 I mean, the dude just lost to Anderson Silva and there was white people all over the world convinced that he had a shot. 0.99
00:29:43.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:45.000 There was white people all over the world.
00:29:48.000 We're looking forward to him winning, you know?
00:29:51.000 He's such what a character.
00:29:53.000 What a funny, smart guy. 0.97
00:29:56.000 He's the kind of guy that could knock on your door at like 8am and you wake up out of bed all tired and shit and then next time you close the door and you bought three vacuum cleaners and stuff. 0.94
00:30:06.000 Yeah, no kidding, man. 0.98
00:30:07.000 But he can fight, too, man.
00:30:09.000 He can fight.
00:30:10.000 It's just, he ran into two buzz saws.
00:30:14.000 Two of the greatest fighters of the generation.
00:30:17.000 Anderson, I mean, look what he did to Anderson in the first fight.
00:30:19.000 You can't take that away from him.
00:30:21.000 Even if Anderson was injured, that was an incredible performance.
00:30:24.000 He was minutes away from winning the title. 0.99
00:30:27.000 He fucked up in that final round. 0.99
00:30:29.000 But he was real close. 0.99
00:30:31.000 Do you think he carries that with him though?
00:30:31.000 Do you think that...
00:30:32.000 Well, it's hard to say he doesn't.
00:30:34.000 It's harder to say he doesn't than to say he does.
00:30:36.000 To say he does, you get all this evidence.
00:30:40.000 The polyphilio fight, this fight, but...
00:30:44.000 The other thing is, first of all, he's just playing at a real high level. 1.00
00:30:49.000 And this kind of shit happens. 1.00
00:30:51.000 You're at a real fucking high level. 1.00
00:30:53.000 And if you look at how it happens, in every other fight, it happened in a way that sort of makes sense to him. 0.98
00:31:00.000 Like Anderson Silva caught him with a triangle, that sort of makes sense to him.
00:31:03.000 He missed that spinning back fist, then he got caught, that sort of makes sense.
00:31:08.000 But the Jon Jones fight didn't make any sense.
00:31:10.000 The Jon Jones fight was a mauling.
00:31:11.000 Jon just took him down and mauled him.
00:31:13.000 And I think that was the most disappointing for him.
00:31:17.000 Yeah.
00:31:17.000 Because he's a very good fighter, man.
00:31:19.000 If you look at the way he submitted Brian Stan, that's a scary dude.
00:31:23.000 Chell Sonnen's a beast.
00:31:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:31:25.000 No doubt about it.
00:31:25.000 But those A guys are just a step better.
00:31:28.000 And that's what it is.
00:31:29.000 It's just a step better.
00:31:31.000 That's all they need to be.
00:31:32.000 So what's your opinion on fighters accusing each other of using steroids?
00:31:38.000 Well, I think we both know that in every sport in the world where there's money involved, people are going to do everything they can in order to be victorious.
00:31:51.000 That is just the way it is.
00:31:52.000 There are people who hold principle higher than they hold money, and I know for a fact I had a long conversation with John Fitch once about it, and John Fitch, I guarantee that guy never used anything, ever.
00:32:05.000 He's just, for him, it was a principal issue.
00:32:08.000 But that's not everybody.
00:32:10.000 We both know that's not everybody.
00:32:11.000 A lot of guys have used stuff.
00:32:12.000 A lot of guys have used stuff, and they've said, well, you know, I'm just trying to get over an injury, and I'm just going to use it to get over this knee injury.
00:32:20.000 Yeah, that too.
00:32:21.000 You're doing that too.
00:32:22.000 But also, look, you realize when you're around a certain, around a Certain amount of, like, really strong wrestler-type dudes, you go, okay, there's nothing I can do to keep this guy off me. 0.95
00:32:32.000 I gotta get fucking stronger. 0.97
00:32:34.000 Period. 0.99
00:32:34.000 If I want to stay in this game, I gotta get stronger. 0.99
00:32:37.000 I don't know how the fuck he got that strong, but I gotta get stronger. 0.96
00:32:40.000 And it's really hard to get stronger naturally, quick. 1.00
00:32:44.000 Naturally, the shit takes years, you know? 0.99
00:32:47.000 It takes, like, four or five years to put on a good 20 pounds of, like, real raw muscle. 1.00
00:32:53.000 Yeah.
00:32:54.000 Or we can do it this way.
00:32:57.000 And everybody's doing it.
00:32:59.000 And then you go, okay, everybody's doing it.
00:33:02.000 You know, people can kind of justify it to themselves because other people are doing it.
00:33:06.000 It's like everybody enables each other.
00:33:09.000 Yeah, I don't think...
00:33:10.000 I think there's certainly an issue and there's certainly a discussion to be had.
00:33:16.000 And especially for testosterone replacement therapy.
00:33:20.000 That's a big one.
00:33:22.000 That to me is a big one because that one, for a lot of folks who don't know, like young fighters in their early 30s even, even some guys younger than that, take testosterone, which is really kind of crazy.
00:33:36.000 Your body should be producing testosterone in healthy quantities like deep, deep into your 30s.
00:33:43.000 It starts to drop off when you start hitting 40. If you're like...
00:33:47.000 But very slowly, because they're very small numbers.
00:33:49.000 Yes, and if you're fit, and if you're eating healthy, and if you're sleeping right, you should be okay.
00:33:56.000 So when you find guys that are like 30, and they're taking testosterone replacement therapy, you go, okay, what are you doing?
00:34:03.000 Because what you're doing right now is you're putting testosterone into your body that doesn't exist.
00:34:07.000 So does it not exist because you've been hit too many times?
00:34:10.000 Which we both know is also a real possibility.
00:34:13.000 In fact, this guy, Dr. Mark Gordon, who worked with James Toney, he's done a lot of work on that, showing how traumatic brain injury to both soldiers and people who do extreme sports, that traumatic brain injury has a significant impact on your body's ability to produce testosterone.
00:34:34.000 So I could knock the testosterone out of somebody.
00:34:38.000 Like a little girl.
00:34:40.000 Joe Sutton's picking that line up.
00:34:41.000 It's not a situation where it happens in one night.
00:34:46.000 It's a situation where you're beating yourself up.
00:34:50.000 You know, I've never fought an MMA fight, but I've watched you guys train, and I see the amount of hours that it takes in a day to do a real proper six-week camp.
00:35:03.000 And for folks who don't know, it's insane.
00:35:06.000 It's insane. 1.00
00:35:07.000 It's fucking madness. 0.99
00:35:08.000 And I think some guys think the only way they can get through that is with some help. 0.99
00:35:13.000 Because if you don't get through that, then what are you going to do when you get in there with a guy like GSP when you know he has gone through that? 1.00
00:35:20.000 You're like, well, fuck. 1.00
00:35:21.000 You're doomed. 1.00
00:35:23.000 You're going to keep up with him for a little bit, but eventually he's going to steamroll you.
00:35:27.000 There's just no getting around it.
00:35:28.000 If you don't do what everybody else is doing, how can you compete?
00:35:31.000 Unless they dress like an alien.
00:35:34.000 With GSB. Oh, with GSB. GSB has this thing about aliens.
00:35:38.000 He's terrified of aliens.
00:35:39.000 Yeah, I wonder if he hates fighting dudes with alien wear on their trunks.
00:35:42.000 I know.
00:35:43.000 What if it was just alien wear the whole time?
00:35:46.000 Just a big marketing scam.
00:35:48.000 He's getting hired.
00:35:50.000 Alien wear sponsors a lot of fighters.
00:35:52.000 Maybe GSB has a deal.
00:35:54.000 You can't have them wear that thing on their pants.
00:35:57.000 They wear that thing to scare me.
00:35:59.000 No, no.
00:36:02.000 Have you rewatched that?
00:36:03.000 Rewatch it.
00:36:04.000 It's so interesting.
00:36:05.000 It's amazing.
00:36:06.000 He's awesome.
00:36:07.000 I love that guy.
00:36:08.000 He's awesome.
00:36:09.000 That was a beautiful interview, man.
00:36:11.000 It really was.
00:36:13.000 He's a guy who kept his humility better than any champion I've ever seen.
00:36:19.000 It's amazing.
00:36:20.000 I've been up to Montreal a couple of times to work with him.
00:36:23.000 The first time I went up there, I didn't know how they were going to receive me.
00:36:28.000 I did say a few things about people in this camp during the preparation. 0.97
00:36:32.000 To knock the fake tan off the line was fucking outstanding. 0.74
00:36:37.000 Thank you. 0.92
00:36:38.000 They asked me to go up for a week to spar with him and I thought they were just going to take me in to beat me up a little bit and throw me out.
00:36:45.000 But I was up for it anyway.
00:36:46.000 It was going to be an experience.
00:36:47.000 And when I got there, everyone was really cool.
00:36:49.000 Oh, that's great.
00:36:50.000 Yeah, it was really cool.
00:36:52.000 And GSP is by far the most humble and deserving champion I've ever met.
00:36:56.000 Weird, right?
00:36:57.000 Yeah.
00:36:57.000 There's no one like him when it comes to MMA champions.
00:37:01.000 He's a sweet guy, real nice to people.
00:37:05.000 And he handles it really well, his lifestyle.
00:37:09.000 He gets a lot of attention all the time and it's exhausting.
00:37:12.000 And he still, no matter how much attention he has, he's still the same guy.
00:37:15.000 He doesn't fall into it.
00:37:18.000 That's a real issue with folks.
00:37:20.000 They fall into that.
00:37:22.000 They get caught up.
00:37:23.000 It was kind of funny going up there the first time because I still had a Mohawk the first time.
00:37:28.000 He goes out most nights.
00:37:29.000 He loves to be out in clubs and stuff.
00:37:31.000 He doesn't drink and any of that.
00:37:34.000 But obviously you can imagine how much attention he gets in Montreal.
00:37:38.000 Right.
00:37:38.000 So he's walking through the club and everybody looks over and staring at him.
00:37:42.000 And then they notice me behind him and they're like...
00:37:44.000 The look of confusion on their face are like...
00:37:46.000 Like, we got hoodwinked. 1.00
00:37:48.000 These motherfuckers like each other. 1.00
00:37:52.000 That's funny, man. 1.00
00:37:54.000 That's funny.
00:37:55.000 Yeah, you know, it all trickles down from the top.
00:37:57.000 That Ferasa hobby guy.
00:37:59.000 That's a smart dude.
00:38:00.000 He is.
00:38:00.000 He is.
00:38:01.000 That's a very, very smart dude.
00:38:02.000 Very clever. 0.96
00:38:03.000 And the way he runs his show is no bullshit, you know? 0.79
00:38:07.000 And John Danaher as well. 1.00
00:38:08.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00
00:38:09.000 People don't talk about this guy enough. 1.00
00:38:11.000 You're right, you're right.
00:38:12.000 In the hotel that I was staying at, my room was opposite his.
00:38:14.000 So, like, he was the last person I'd see before, like, heading to bed at night.
00:38:19.000 We stood and had long conversations in the corridor.
00:38:21.000 The guy's fascinating and really, really strange.
00:38:24.000 Really, really strange and really, really fascinating.
00:38:26.000 We went to dinner with him, me, him, and Eddie Bravo, like a Denny's or some shit like that, and we just broke down the universe together. 0.94
00:38:34.000 John Donaher is a beast, man. 0.89
00:38:36.000 He's amazing. 0.99
00:38:37.000 He's so, so fucking smart. 0.87
00:38:38.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:38:38.000 Yeah, and that's actually how I wound up doing Taekwondo with George. 0.90
00:38:44.000 Okay.
00:38:44.000 And teaching him how to throw the turning sidekick correctly.
00:38:46.000 It's from John Donaher.
00:38:48.000 Like, Donaher was asking me if I knew any high-level Taekwondo guys that can teach George the proper mechanics of the spinning back kick.
00:38:55.000 Okay. 0.98
00:38:55.000 And I felt like such an asshole saying, like, yeah, I can judge how to do it, right? 0.98
00:39:00.000 You know, it sounds like such a Hollywood douche move. 1.00
00:39:03.000 Like, oh, yeah, you know, you're going to teach George fucking St. Pierre how to throw a kick. 0.95
00:39:08.000 But to his credit, he actually listened to me. 0.93
00:39:10.000 Like, I couldn't believe he tried it, you know?
00:39:12.000 Because I wouldn't have listened to me. 1.00
00:39:14.000 I'd be like, yeah, bitch, all right. 1.00
00:39:16.000 I'll go watch you kick a bag, you fucking fruitcake. 1.00
00:39:19.000 Fucking actor weirdo. 1.00
00:39:23.000 George was super humble and eager to learn. 1.00
00:39:29.000 He's a really unusual dude.
00:39:31.000 It's weird how many different...
00:39:33.000 The way people perceive MMA fighters or even jiu-jitsu athletes or kickboxers, the way people perceive people who compete in combat sports and the way they really are, it's so different.
00:39:48.000 Like, my favorite people, some of my favorite people of all time that I've ever met have been fighters.
00:39:53.000 Because there's something about the type of character that you need to have to be able to test yourself in such an extreme environment.
00:40:03.000 Like, that's a rare quality.
00:40:05.000 It's a very rare quality.
00:40:06.000 And some people mistake it with being a barbaric thing because they think that somehow or another we should not be violent because violence is bad.
00:40:18.000 And even though it's a competition and they both agree to do it and they can be respectful, it still seems like it's anti-societal.
00:40:27.000 But they don't understand.
00:40:29.000 They just haven't experienced anything really intense themselves and known that there's only one way to develop real character and have confidence in that real character.
00:40:37.000 You've got to put yourself in fire.
00:40:40.000 That's why a lot of MMA fighters are interesting people.
00:40:44.000 After a certain amount of time of being in the gym and being so focused on yourself, you become very self-aware.
00:40:51.000 Usually from that comes a lot of self-confidence and just being very comfortable in different environments, which usually means you stand out because you put that out there when you walk into a room.
00:41:04.000 And you're not worried about physical confrontation anymore, so you calm down.
00:41:08.000 But you also don't feel like you have anything to prove either.
00:41:09.000 Exactly.
00:41:10.000 And that's the real issue with a lot of guys, is the need to prove dominance, the need to prove.
00:41:15.000 But guys who have had martial arts backgrounds, they don't have that need.
00:41:19.000 They can chill, they can relax.
00:41:21.000 They're way easier to be around.
00:41:23.000 Yeah. 0.96
00:41:23.000 Like, I've never seen shit start up between, like... 0.96
00:41:26.000 Maybe Brazilian dudes have. 0.99
00:41:27.000 Maybe some Brazilian dudes have jumped each other. 0.62
00:41:29.000 I was watching a video the other day and Vanderlei Silva was in it.
00:41:32.000 It was two guys fighting in the dressing room.
00:41:34.000 Yeah, Vanderlei Silva and Charles Crazy Horse Bryant.
00:41:38.000 No, it was two other guys and Vanderlei was cornering one of them.
00:41:41.000 Oh, yeah, that was Cristiano Marcello.
00:41:43.000 In a triangle.
00:41:44.000 Yeah, he got him in a triangle and put him to sleep.
00:41:46.000 But it was Charles Crazy Horse Bryant.
00:41:49.000 And Crazy Horse actually got up, the legend is, and sucker punched Vandelay and knocked him out cold.
00:41:54.000 And it was right before Vandelay was supposed to fight Ricardo Arona.
00:41:58.000 Yeah.
00:41:59.000 And Vandelay literally got knocked out, woke up, and sent out to, if you're going to believe, Charles Crazy Horse Bryan.
00:42:06.000 Which, I wonder if he's telling the truth, man, because Crazy Horse was nuts. 0.99
00:42:11.000 And he could knock a motherfucker out. 1.00
00:42:13.000 He had a serious punch. 1.00
00:42:16.000 Crazy Horse could punch fucking hard. 1.00
00:42:19.000 Enough to easily knock on a 185 pounder if he sucker punched him. 0.99
00:42:23.000 Did you ever see that fight where he tore that stuffed bear apart in the corner?
00:42:26.000 Yeah!
00:42:29.000 Well, he would get to the top of the cage and do backflips off the top of the cage.
00:42:33.000 He was like the first dude doing that.
00:42:34.000 Or like sit on the top, sit on the corner post.
00:42:37.000 Yeah, just jump up and sit up there during the fight. 0.96
00:42:40.000 He would sucker punch guys like in the middle of a round.
00:42:43.000 Just wham! 0.99
00:42:44.000 And just knock them out cold with like a punch that you don't think should land. 0.99
00:42:49.000 Head full of gold teeth. 0.97
00:42:50.000 Yeah.
00:42:51.000 And a balacalava when he's doing his interviews.
00:42:53.000 Remember when he was fighting Mishima and he was calling him Mishimash?
00:42:57.000 Just his eyes showing and gold teeth.
00:43:00.000 Who was the fighter that while the referee is reading the instructions, he's like mugging to the camera with his big giant smile and gold teeth. 1.00
00:43:08.000 He was another character right out of a fucking movie. 0.99
00:43:11.000 Yeah, he was. 1.00
00:43:12.000 Constantly getting arrested.
00:43:13.000 I hung out with that dude.
00:43:15.000 Me and him and Eddie Bravo hung out with him and his girlfriend.
00:43:19.000 We watched some fights together.
00:43:21.000 It was when K1 did an event in, I think it was K1, did an event in Hollywood, in some soccer stadium, some outdoor stadium.
00:43:31.000 And just by chance, we sat right next to each other.
00:43:33.000 I had a great time with that dude.
00:43:36.000 That dude was hilarious.
00:43:37.000 We were just laughing at everything. 1.00
00:43:40.000 He's a wild motherfucker. 1.00
00:43:43.000 It's kind of cool sometimes when you get exposed to one of those people just for a few hours. 1.00
00:43:47.000 I had a car journey from Hollywood to Temecula and back with Mayhem.
00:43:51.000 Yeah.
00:43:52.000 And it was, like, one of the most high-speed, scariest rides I've ever been on.
00:43:56.000 Like, he's, like, sitting in the driver's seat with a shirt with, like, guns all over it and a big chain with a gun on it, sunglasses on, and he's just, like, speeding, and every now and then he's, like, police track thing will beep, and he'll, like, hit the brakes, and I'm like swerving in and out and talking 100 miles an hour.
00:44:11.000 And it's like two hours from there, isn't it?
00:44:13.000 So I have four hours of that as well as a training session in the middle.
00:44:15.000 I was exhausted by the time I got home.
00:44:18.000 You're lucky to be alive.
00:44:19.000 I needed like three days.
00:44:21.000 I hung out with Clay Guido one weekend in Chicago and he took me to my show.
00:44:26.000 He insisted on taking me to my show.
00:44:28.000 So it was me and him and Eddie Bravo and Clay Guido was driving.
00:44:32.000 Clay Guida drives like he fights.
00:44:35.000 He drives exactly like he fights.
00:44:37.000 Just sitting there going, whoa!
00:44:40.000 Like, I trust him.
00:44:42.000 I think he knows what he's doing.
00:44:43.000 Oh, Sam Tripoli?
00:44:44.000 I just got back from driving with him.
00:44:46.000 Oh, no!
00:44:47.000 You let Sam drive?
00:44:48.000 He is the scariest, man.
00:44:50.000 He's just, like, side-swiping cars while texting and talking on the phone.
00:44:55.000 Oh, you let him text and drive?
00:44:56.000 He was just out of control.
00:44:58.000 It's so funny, man.
00:44:59.000 I was scared out of my mind.
00:45:01.000 That's... 0.99
00:45:01.000 It's fucking bad, man. 0.99
00:45:03.000 I know. 0.99
00:45:03.000 And I gave him my car to drive up to San Francisco. 0.99
00:45:05.000 I was like, I didn't know how bad it was. 0.99
00:45:08.000 And then when I was up there, I was like, oh shit, he has to drive home. 0.98
00:45:10.000 And I was like, oh please, Tony, just please drive most of the time. 0.98
00:45:14.000 Oh, that's hilarious.
00:45:15.000 So they drove your car up?
00:45:16.000 Yeah, and back.
00:45:17.000 Oh, wow. 0.98
00:45:18.000 Goddamn, that's a long ride. 0.98
00:45:20.000 How much is a Southwest flight? 0.98
00:45:21.000 It's like 100 bucks. 1.00
00:45:22.000 You cheap fucks. 0.99
00:45:23.000 No, it was like, I spent like $500 round trip for going up there for some reason. 0.99
00:45:29.000 I don't know if it was because of Cinco de Mayo or whatever.
00:45:32.000 Probably right. 0.99
00:45:33.000 They jack up rates when shit like that goes on. 0.99
00:45:36.000 And Southwest doesn't go direct to San Francisco. 0.99
00:45:40.000 They don't?
00:45:40.000 No.
00:45:41.000 Isn't that weird?
00:45:42.000 Yeah.
00:45:42.000 That's crazy.
00:45:43.000 I know they go to San Jose.
00:45:45.000 Yeah.
00:45:45.000 That's not far from San Francisco.
00:45:47.000 You could do San Jose, and then you drive for like 30 minutes. 0.97
00:45:50.000 Well, I was going to do Oakland, but you have to take that stupid thing underneath the ocean. 0.87
00:45:54.000 I was like, you already scared me enough to never do that. 0.98
00:45:58.000 The BART? Have you ever done the BART in San Francisco?
00:46:01.000 We were filming Fear Factor in Oakland, and I ate I had a pot cookie or something in my hotel room, because I was hanging out with the crew, and they were really cool guys.
00:46:10.000 But, you know, I was like, I have this cookie, and it would probably make it more interesting to hang out with these people.
00:46:18.000 I take this, it's not an insult, but they were straight is my point. 0.99
00:46:22.000 I couldn't say, hey, who wants some pot cookies?
00:46:25.000 They'd be like, oh, not me.
00:46:26.000 Oh, no, no, no, you're not going to get me to eat that. 1.00
00:46:28.000 What are you, crazy? 0.98
00:46:29.000 I don't think so, pal. 1.00
00:46:30.000 Oh, you meant straight like they don't do drugs. 1.00
00:46:32.000 Yeah, they don't fuck around. 1.00
00:46:33.000 I thought you were pissed because they were straight. 1.00
00:46:34.000 No, yeah, I was like, well, I couldn't have gay sex with them. 1.00
00:46:38.000 No, they were straight arrows. 1.00
00:46:41.000 Like, you could offer them a drink.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, I'll have a margarita.
00:46:44.000 You know, they get crazy.
00:46:45.000 I'll have a margarita.
00:46:47.000 But if you're like, who wants to eat some hash? 1.00
00:46:49.000 Fucking get the fuck away from me. 1.00
00:46:53.000 So I ate this pot cookie, and I get on this BART thing, man, and I am flying. 1.00
00:46:56.000 I just totally over-modulated. 0.99
00:46:59.000 Sometimes you just don't know what the fuck you're eating. 0.99
00:47:01.000 You just eat one, and it just puts you almost in another dimension. 1.00
00:47:05.000 It's like your face is under a waterfall.
00:47:08.000 You're about to peer through the other side.
00:47:10.000 You just can't quite get there, like that high.
00:47:12.000 And my ears are ringing.
00:47:13.000 I'm like, why are my ears popping?
00:47:16.000 And they go, because we're 500 feet underwater. 0.99
00:47:20.000 I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? 0.99
00:47:22.000 I would have never said yes to this. 1.00
00:47:25.000 If you asked me, do you want to go in a fucking tube that's under the ocean in a place where the ground moves, I would have said, fuck you! 1.00
00:47:33.000 I don't want to do that. 1.00
00:47:34.000 Why are we doing that?
00:47:36.000 That's like playing musical chairs.
00:47:38.000 You know, I can catch a train from my apartment in Nottingham.
00:47:41.000 I found this out the other day.
00:47:42.000 I've been telling everybody.
00:47:43.000 I can catch a train from my apartment in Nottingham to Saigon.
00:47:46.000 What?
00:47:47.000 Right?
00:47:48.000 How is that possible?
00:47:49.000 Exactly.
00:47:50.000 The problem is, the only part of the journey I would struggle with is the channel tunnel between...
00:47:54.000 Oh, Jesus, Dan Hardy.
00:47:56.000 Like, apparently one train has to stop while the other one goes past because the pressure would just like...
00:48:01.000 No!
00:48:02.000 They go under the ocean?
00:48:04.000 Under the ocean. 1.00
00:48:05.000 Get the fuck out of here with that shit! 1.00
00:48:07.000 That is a movie waiting to happen. 1.00
00:48:10.000 Oh, they will tell your story for many, many years in the future. 1.00
00:48:14.000 Get the fuck out of here, man. 1.00
00:48:16.000 It's like a Titanic kind of movie, isn't it? 1.00
00:48:18.000 Fuck that movie. 1.00
00:48:19.000 That movie sucks. 1.00
00:48:19.000 You do not want to be in that movie. 1.00
00:48:21.000 You don't want to be dude in a tunnel.
00:48:23.000 Into concrete under seawater.
00:48:24.000 Just seeing the rocks tumbling towards you.
00:48:28.000 Enormous rocks with walls of water behind them pushing them.
00:48:33.000 Rocks that are thousands of pounds.
00:48:35.000 And it's a matter of 10-15 seconds before they hate you.
00:48:37.000 And you're so minu in that circumstance as well. 0.98
00:48:39.000 You're so insignificant. 1.00
00:48:40.000 You don't matter, bitch. 1.00
00:48:42.000 You are a footnote in history. 1.00
00:48:43.000 And that's a wrap, son!
00:48:45.000 Clean her up! 1.00
00:48:46.000 You're clear, Mr. Hardy.
00:48:47.000 Thank you for playing this life.
00:48:49.000 Yeah, that's why I didn't go to that airport.
00:48:51.000 Good move, son.
00:48:53.000 Good move.
00:48:54.000 Now that you put it that way.
00:48:55.000 Can I bring up that funny thing that I saw?
00:48:58.000 No.
00:48:58.000 No, no, no.
00:49:00.000 No, no, no.
00:49:01.000 No, because I'll get mad.
00:49:04.000 Unfortunately.
00:49:08.000 Dan Hardy, you recently went to the jungle.
00:49:11.000 I did.
00:49:12.000 I went to the jungle.
00:49:12.000 You recently had an experience in the spirit world.
00:49:16.000 I did. 0.81
00:49:17.000 Doesn't that sound like a ridiculous thing to say? 0.94
00:49:19.000 It does. 1.00
00:49:20.000 You sound like one of those bead-wearing, fucking Birkenstock-wearing assholes. 1.00
00:49:26.000 If you say something like that, like, I went to the spirit world. 1.00
00:49:29.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:29.000 Did you?
00:49:30.000 You fuck? 1.00
00:49:31.000 And I do yoga like five times a week now. 1.00
00:49:33.000 I'm really not helping my cause at all.
00:49:36.000 I've got the beads.
00:49:38.000 Yeah, you got the beads.
00:49:39.000 There's like a certain thing to it.
00:49:41.000 It's like, it sucks when someone's faking that thing.
00:49:43.000 Yeah.
00:49:44.000 You know?
00:49:44.000 Yeah.
00:49:45.000 Oh, just bend some white sage and it'll be better.
00:49:47.000 It's like, you know, you can see those people from a mile away.
00:49:51.000 I know a guy who's like that who preys on older women. 1.00
00:49:55.000 Yeah?
00:49:55.000 Yeah.
00:49:56.000 He's got this older woman, she's quite a bit older than him and less attractive than him, but he's young and fairly useless and like this fake guru type character.
00:50:07.000 You know, there's a documentary, I can't remember what it's called, it's on Netflix, and it's a guy who, he goes out to, have you seen it?
00:50:12.000 Yes!
00:50:13.000 Goes out to India.
00:50:13.000 No, no, I haven't seen it, but I've heard of it.
00:50:15.000 You've got to watch it.
00:50:16.000 He makes a fake religion. 0.98
00:50:18.000 A fake guru, yeah.
00:50:19.000 Yeah, he becomes a fake guru.
00:50:21.000 Let's see, a documentary on fake guru.
00:50:22.000 I can't remember what it's called.
00:50:24.000 Netflix just pulled the plug on like 2,000 live movies.
00:50:28.000 Did they really?
00:50:29.000 Why?
00:50:29.000 Because they lost contracts with, I think it was Warner Brothers or something, but like South Park's gone.
00:50:35.000 Like a lot of shit is gone from it right now. 0.95
00:50:38.000 Kumar is the movie. 1.00
00:50:40.000 A true film about a false prophet.
00:50:43.000 It's worth a watch.
00:50:45.000 It's kind of interesting. 0.99
00:50:47.000 It's fucked how easy it is to trick people. 0.98
00:50:50.000 That's unfortunate. 0.99
00:50:51.000 You know, people want...
00:50:53.000 You know why I think?
00:50:55.000 This is why I think.
00:50:56.000 It's because it's an insanely rare quality to be truly enlightened or even truly on a path of enlightenment.
00:51:06.000 A true path of enlightenment.
00:51:09.000 With...
00:51:10.000 True focus and, you know, and on a path for a real, the pure sake of trying to figure out what this life is and figure out how to live this life better.
00:51:21.000 There's so few people really, really doing that, that to even, like, attempt to do it is so douchish.
00:51:27.000 It's intimidating to think for yourself, though.
00:51:29.000 I think that's where a lot of people fall, you know?
00:51:31.000 It's scary to think for yourself, so they want somebody else to do it for them.
00:51:34.000 It is, but it's also we don't like people proclaiming that there is something more grand than the rest of us.
00:51:43.000 We don't like people proclaiming that they're on the path to figuring it out where you're screaming in your car at a red light and you can't balance your checkbook.
00:51:51.000 You know what I mean?
00:51:53.000 People don't want to believe that there's a guy who really does do yoga every day and really does find his center and it's made him a more joyous person.
00:52:03.000 This is what I hear from you.
00:52:04.000 A lot of you talking about you, buddy.
00:52:07.000 That's what I hear.
00:52:08.000 A lot of you being impressed with yourself. 1.00
00:52:11.000 A lot of you fucking annoying with your flip-flops. 0.99
00:52:14.000 And that's what happens. 0.99
00:52:16.000 There's so many of those guys.
00:52:19.000 I had this Dr. Amit Goswami in here once, a theoretical physicist guy.
00:52:24.000 Genius guy.
00:52:25.000 And he was saying that sometimes people have to fake things in order to really truly make them happen.
00:52:33.000 He's like, I let people use the word quantum when I know they don't really know what it means.
00:52:38.000 But if this guy has interest in faking it, maybe it would lead to a real interest in trying to understand quantum science. 0.76
00:52:48.000 And I was like, wow, that's a fucking interesting way to look at it. 0.60
00:52:53.000 And see, like, so... 0.98
00:52:54.000 I go, so, like, false gurus and play, I go, so let them fake it.
00:52:59.000 Which I guess.
00:53:00.000 I guess. 1.00
00:53:02.000 But, you know, then they start, you know, fucking everybody's wives and... 1.00
00:53:06.000 Well, yeah. 1.00
00:53:08.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:53:08.000 Killing all the male babies. 1.00
00:53:10.000 You know? 1.00
00:53:11.000 It always goes south.
00:53:13.000 Always. 1.00
00:53:14.000 And it's always a man running shit. 1.00
00:53:15.000 Is there been a woman run cult ever? 1.00
00:53:18.000 Can you tell me that? 1.00
00:53:19.000 There's a fucking... 0.99
00:53:20.000 I can't think of one. 1.00
00:53:21.000 Just that alone is great evidence that Women are way less dangerous than men.
00:53:28.000 They have less of a desire to control their environment. 0.99
00:53:32.000 Even if you have a shitty woman boss, she ain't no cult leader. 1.00
00:53:37.000 Oprah's the closest woman cult leader. 0.99
00:53:40.000 She's the closest to a woman cult leader. 1.00
00:53:42.000 She's kind of running a cult. 0.99
00:53:46.000 She's running a cult of happiness amongst women over 35. A Chardonnay cult. 1.00
00:53:52.000 A Chardonnay cult! 1.00
00:53:53.000 Yeah, that's her shit. 1.00
00:53:57.000 I guess she could run a cult. 1.00
00:53:59.000 But there's not a lot of women who could pull that off and run a cult. 1.00
00:54:03.000 Imagine what the world looks like from her perspective.
00:54:05.000 From Oprah's perspective?
00:54:07.000 It's got to be insanity.
00:54:08.000 First of all, how many women have ever achieved that before? 0.96
00:54:12.000 It's not like you're a man.
00:54:14.000 If you're a man and you're like a media mogul, it's like, oh, look, another one.
00:54:18.000 Another Richard Branson.
00:54:19.000 Another this, another that, another that guy, this guy.
00:54:22.000 There's always a new guy.
00:54:23.000 There's always some new guy who's a big loud mouth who's on TV all the time and makes a lot of money.
00:54:28.000 There's always that guy.
00:54:29.000 Well, how many of those girls? 1.00
00:54:31.000 How many girls have just had all these women screaming and cheering whenever they see her? 1.00
00:54:36.000 She gives away cars and shit. 1.00
00:54:38.000 Saves people in Africa. 1.00
00:54:40.000 How many girls? 1.00
00:54:41.000 Is there one other one ever?
00:54:44.000 Angelina Jolie is kind of like rocking it in some sort of weird way, but she doesn't have like a talk show where she's talking every day. 1.00
00:54:52.000 She's like an actress. 0.98
00:54:53.000 That's like control.
00:54:54.000 You can give people instructions and they'll follow it.
00:54:56.000 Go and buy this and millions of women will go out and buy it. 1.00
00:55:00.000 That's scary power.
00:55:01.000 Yeah, Oprah power is weird power.
00:55:03.000 It's very rare that a human achieves that.
00:55:05.000 But she has to have sacrificed real relationships with people. 0.90
00:55:10.000 You can't have a real connection with anybody, or you can't develop new connections when you get to that kind of status.
00:55:15.000 I don't think so.
00:55:16.000 I wonder.
00:55:17.000 How could you ever let anybody in?
00:55:18.000 I don't know.
00:55:19.000 Well, the only reason you wouldn't is if you think that you're better than other people because you're successful.
00:55:25.000 The issue of running into people that want to take advantage of you, you're going to have that no matter what.
00:55:30.000 You would hope that your filter is good enough that you'd be able to check out the crazy ones.
00:55:34.000 But when it gets to the stage where you can't go anywhere without someone recognizing, you're like, everybody knows who you are. 1.00
00:55:40.000 Yeah, you fucked up, son. 1.00
00:55:41.000 You took it too deep. 1.00
00:55:44.000 Should have backed off, Elvis.
00:55:45.000 Maybe you would have stayed alive longer. 0.90
00:55:47.000 Never go full retard. 0.96
00:55:50.000 Yeah, there's something that happens to people when they get that cuckoo famous. 0.89
00:55:54.000 You know, they get that over-the-top cuckoo famous.
00:55:56.000 Like Justin Bieber's.
00:55:57.000 Oh, he's gone.
00:55:58.000 The young man's gone.
00:56:00.000 He tried to take a monkey to Germany the other day. 1.00
00:56:03.000 What the fuck is that? 1.00
00:56:05.000 Well, that's what you do when you're fucking 17 years old and you fucked a million girls a day for the past year. 1.00
00:56:13.000 And you look like you're four. 1.00
00:56:15.000 Yeah.
00:56:15.000 And he thought they were being unreasonable because they wanted to take his monkey off.
00:56:17.000 They are unreasonable. 1.00
00:56:19.000 He's Justin motherfucking Beaver. 0.99
00:56:20.000 Justin Beaver, he could go to a restaurant and put his hands up and say, hello everybody, and they would start cheering. 0.99
00:56:25.000 They would start clapping.
00:56:26.000 They would twerp it.
00:56:26.000 Justin Beaver's here.
00:56:28.000 Swag.
00:56:29.000 They would go, oh my god, he just said swag.
00:56:32.000 What's that?
00:56:33.000 But that's his thing.
00:56:34.000 He says swag all the time.
00:56:35.000 How do you know that?
00:56:35.000 I know a lot.
00:56:37.000 Wait a second. 1.00
00:56:38.000 We talked about it on the podcast, you fucking stoner. 1.00
00:56:41.000 Swag? 1.00
00:56:41.000 Yes. 1.00
00:56:43.000 You don't pay attention to things I say.
00:56:45.000 You block me out like an old marriage. 0.94
00:56:48.000 You block me out like we're married.
00:56:55.000 Yeah, I know a dude who has done work for Mr. Bieber.
00:57:00.000 He's a very nice guy.
00:57:02.000 I met his dad.
00:57:03.000 Yeah, I met his dad too.
00:57:04.000 I met him and his dad at a UFC fight.
00:57:05.000 I met him very briefly.
00:57:07.000 We had headphones on and they shook our hands.
00:57:09.000 Hi, hi, how you doing?
00:57:10.000 And then the fight was going on.
00:57:12.000 But no one could ask anyone to be able to handle that situation any better than that kid's doing.
00:57:18.000 He's doing way better than I would do. 0.99
00:57:21.000 Could you imagine what fucking damage you would have done if you were that famous at 17? 1.00
00:57:26.000 That must be ridiculous. 1.00
00:57:27.000 I did enough damage at 17 and I was nobody. 0.98
00:57:32.000 What kind of life is that?
00:57:34.000 That guy lives...
00:57:35.000 There's only one person on the planet that lives like that.
00:57:38.000 That's him.
00:57:40.000 Who's he going to compare notes with?
00:57:42.000 Who's going to understand his life?
00:57:44.000 Britney Spears was that kind of level at one point. 0.96
00:57:47.000 I don't know what happened to her.
00:57:49.000 She went crazy.
00:57:50.000 She blew a fuse. 1.00
00:57:51.000 I'm kind of excited for Justin Bieber to lose his mind as well.
00:57:54.000 I mean, it's coming.
00:57:55.000 But it's just, how is it going to happen?
00:57:57.000 Is he going to start buying wild animals and fill his house with them?
00:58:01.000 It's money in the bank.
00:58:02.000 I used to do a joke before Macaulay Culkin went crazy.
00:58:05.000 I used to do a joke about how he's money in the bank.
00:58:08.000 It's like, this ain't going to turn out well.
00:58:10.000 This is you.
00:58:12.000 You're not always going to be that guy.
00:58:13.000 You're going to be like a man someday.
00:58:15.000 That's going to be weird.
00:58:16.000 You became unbelievably famous while you were a child.
00:58:22.000 How could you possibly handle that?
00:58:25.000 Hanging out with Michael Jackson.
00:58:28.000 Jesus Christ.
00:58:30.000 You know, there was a guy who got arrested.
00:58:31.000 He was like one of those famous Hollywood investigative guys, like a strong-arm investigator.
00:58:38.000 And he had done some work with Michael Jackson.
00:58:41.000 And what he says is that he wanted to check in and make sure that all the molestation allegations were incorrect.
00:58:52.000 And he said he wouldn't work with Michael Jackson because he did something worse than molest them.
00:58:59.000 What that means? 0.99
00:59:02.000 I couldn't even imagine what the fuck that means.
00:59:05.000 But it was enough that he wouldn't work with the guy.
00:59:11.000 I don't know if that's true.
00:59:13.000 I mean, he's in jail.
00:59:14.000 The guy who did it is in jail. 0.99
00:59:15.000 And he did a lot of nefarious, semi-illegal type shit. 0.99
00:59:20.000 He did a lot of strong-arm shit, you know? 0.99
00:59:23.000 But it seems like he had a little bit of a code. 0.99
00:59:25.000 And it seems like whatever Michael Jackson was doing, according to him at least, That's scary, man.
00:59:31.000 We were talking about Cleveland.
00:59:33.000 We were talking about what happened in Cleveland before the show started.
00:59:37.000 That's insane.
00:59:37.000 Yeah, these guys, these three brothers had kidnapped these three girls and kept them locked up for ten years.
00:59:43.000 So they each got one?
00:59:44.000 I don't know.
00:59:45.000 I don't know what they did.
00:59:46.000 I don't know the full details of the story, but the guy who...
00:59:50.000 Who saved him is this black dude.
00:59:52.000 He said that something happened and I think he heard some screaming and he kicked down a door.
01:00:00.000 Was he robbing the place?
01:00:01.000 No.
01:00:02.000 He was trying to save them.
01:00:04.000 He was trying to save them. 1.00
01:00:05.000 You racist little fuck. 1.00
01:00:08.000 I know what you're doing. 1.00
01:00:09.000 He's trying to keep black people from coming to your shows ever. 0.92
01:00:11.000 I know what you're doing. 0.98
01:00:13.000 I heard some noises.
01:00:14.000 Oh, I mean, I was breaking into the place.
01:00:17.000 And he said, it's a really interesting thing.
01:00:21.000 You've got to see the interview.
01:00:22.000 The guy's really entertaining.
01:00:23.000 The guy who saved him.
01:00:24.000 Pull up the interview, because it's pretty fascinating.
01:00:26.000 And then, don't worry folks, we're still going to talk about the spirit world. 0.98
01:00:29.000 I know we got off subject, but this ain't the Conan O'Brien show, bitch. 1.00
01:00:33.000 It doesn't all go streamlined. 0.94
01:00:36.000 Are you getting requests?
01:00:37.000 No, I know people want to hear about that, though.
01:00:39.000 I know they do.
01:00:40.000 I can't listen to requests while the show's going on. 1.00
01:00:43.000 Too many people would just write fucked up shit to try to get my attention. 1.00
01:00:46.000 Ramsey. 1.00
01:00:47.000 What's that?
01:00:49.000 This one?
01:00:50.000 His name's James Ramsey.
01:00:51.000 Is that his name?
01:00:52.000 Yeah, James Ramsey.
01:00:53.000 Or Charles Ramsey.
01:00:55.000 Charles Ramsey.
01:00:55.000 Charles Ramsey.
01:00:57.000 Guy's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:00:59.000 He saved those girls. 1.00
01:01:00.000 They were in there for 10 years.
01:01:01.000 These guys were holding them captive for 10 years. 0.98
01:01:05.000 What the fuck happens to people that allows them to do something like that? 0.99
01:01:11.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:01:12.000 I don't know.
01:01:14.000 What is their view of the world?
01:01:15.000 How do they see their own actions?
01:01:17.000 How did they get to be that thing?
01:01:19.000 Yeah.
01:01:20.000 That's the real question.
01:01:22.000 Who did something to them?
01:01:23.000 They must have peace with it in some way.
01:01:26.000 Ten years.
01:01:27.000 Ten years is a long time to have second thoughts, you know.
01:01:30.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:31.000 I mean, I don't think, I think they were just, that was, they owned them.
01:01:34.000 They were going to keep it that way.
01:01:35.000 How do you come to the conclusion that's okay?
01:01:38.000 I don't know.
01:01:39.000 I don't know.
01:01:40.000 I couldn't imagine.
01:01:42.000 I have this conversation with the people about Michael Vick.
01:01:45.000 You know, I'm always kind of vocal about that and that situation with the dogfighting.
01:01:49.000 Here's the dude.
01:01:50.000 Here's the dude.
01:01:52.000 Huh.
01:01:53.000 Pause it for a second, because I want to hear what you have to say about this, because, yeah, that disturbs the shit out of me, too. 0.86
01:01:59.000 The Michael Vick thing.
01:02:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like, I was up in Utah a couple of weeks ago for the Victory Dogs reunion, which is basically the dogs that were saved.
01:02:08.000 I think they took 58. Some of them were euthanized because they were too bad.
01:02:14.000 But most of them we're taken to a place called the Best Friends Animal Sanctuary and some of them will stay there for the rest of their lives because they can't be with other dogs and you know.
01:02:22.000 Right.
01:02:23.000 They can't socialise.
01:02:24.000 Yeah, like the Grand Champions and stuff that you have.
01:02:26.000 They're all scarred up and stuff.
01:02:27.000 But a lot of them got adopted and all the families stay quite close and they bring the dogs together so they can socialise.
01:02:34.000 But you know like some of these dogs have got chemical burns on their back.
01:02:37.000 There's one little dog that walks sideways because it was thrown against the wall as a puppy.
01:02:41.000 Like, how do you get to the stage where you think that that's an alright thing to do?
01:02:46.000 Like, that's not...
01:02:47.000 You don't get better from that.
01:02:48.000 That's not something that...
01:02:50.000 And now he's got another dog.
01:02:51.000 Like, he showed up in a pet smart the other day.
01:02:53.000 It's like some kind of military dog.
01:02:56.000 He should not be allowed.
01:02:57.000 How is he allowed to have dogs?
01:02:58.000 If there's anything right with the world, that dog's gonna go for his throat at some point.
01:03:01.000 How is he allowed to have dogs? 0.99
01:03:02.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.99
01:03:03.000 After all the dogs he killed. 0.99
01:03:05.000 But you don't heal from something like that.
01:03:08.000 That's who you are.
01:03:11.000 I don't think you can change.
01:03:12.000 What is the story?
01:03:13.000 He killed a bunch of them, right? 0.50
01:03:15.000 How did he kill them? 1.00
01:03:16.000 He electrocuted them on the floor, electrocuted them, hanging them. 1.00
01:03:20.000 He did torture his shit. 1.00
01:03:22.000 He had a bad reputation in the dogfighting community. 1.00
01:03:25.000 Oh my god.
01:03:27.000 Like 58 dogs he had.
01:03:28.000 Oh my god.
01:03:29.000 He had a bad reputation in the dogfighting community. 1.00
01:03:33.000 You know you're a cunt when the dogfighting world is like, man, you need to settle the fuck down. 1.00
01:03:38.000 You're being mean. 1.00
01:03:40.000 That's a whole new level of mean. 1.00
01:03:42.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:03:43.000 I have a friend who adopted one of his dogs. 1.00
01:03:46.000 And this little dog, when you take it into a room, it will go and sit in the corner and shake.
01:03:52.000 You can't go near it without it just shaking uncontrollably.
01:03:56.000 I think they call them bait dogs, where basically they put a muzzle on the dog.
01:04:00.000 Use it as like a confidence builder for the fighting dogs that are successful.
01:04:05.000 Oh god.
01:04:06.000 But this guy's got a dog that they bullied.
01:04:08.000 Oh my god.
01:04:09.000 But this guy's got another dog now and he's back playing football and everyone's cool because he's an athlete.
01:04:15.000 That's not a normal human being.
01:04:18.000 I agree.
01:04:20.000 It's not a regular calculation to make.
01:04:21.000 Well, it's also, it's...
01:04:23.000 When do you forgive?
01:04:25.000 There's certain things that we don't forgive, right?
01:04:27.000 I mean, we don't forgive child molesting.
01:04:29.000 No one forgives that. 0.95
01:04:30.000 When a person wants to rape kids, like, you're off the menu for civilization, pretty much universally. 0.93
01:04:36.000 But when you look at what some people are willing to accept when... 0.98
01:04:43.000 It's clearly...
01:04:45.000 There's like a sociopathic characteristic to that.
01:04:49.000 There's a cruelty characteristic.
01:04:51.000 But can a guy learn from that?
01:04:53.000 We know...
01:04:53.000 We don't...
01:04:54.000 They can't learn from child rape. 0.99
01:04:56.000 They can't.
01:04:57.000 The recidivism rate is way too high.
01:04:59.000 Whatever it is, it's way too sick.
01:05:01.000 The danger that they pose is way too great.
01:05:03.000 It's like there's too much at stake. 1.00
01:05:05.000 But the idea is, like, a guy that used to treat dogs like they're shit and kill them, should we give that guy a second chance? 0.99
01:05:12.000 But the thing is, I don't think he can change his opinion on his actions. 0.99
01:05:15.000 All I think he can do is realise that other people don't find it acceptable.
01:05:20.000 Well, yeah, there's that, but there's also that he, his culture, like, he grew up, like, from the time he was a little boy, like, they had dogfights.
01:05:29.000 Like, there's a lot of people in this world today that still engage in, like, really regular dogfights.
01:05:35.000 And if you are unlucky enough to be born in that environment, when do you make your own moral distinction?
01:05:42.000 Like, when do you realize that this is a terrible thing?
01:05:45.000 But even so, there's dogfighting and dogfighting.
01:05:47.000 If you read Sam Sheridan's book, A Fighter's Heart, there's a bit about dogfighting in there.
01:05:53.000 I mean, I don't agree with it, but it's a very, very different perspective.
01:05:56.000 They care for the dogs, they look after them, they buy them the best food and really take care of them.
01:06:01.000 And the dogs fight for honor.
01:06:03.000 Right.
01:06:04.000 Which, I mean, it's still a kind of an unusual perspective, but the stuff that Vic was doing was just evil.
01:06:09.000 Evil.
01:06:10.000 Which is a whole new level entirely, and that's the kind of stuff that you can't heal from, I don't think.
01:06:15.000 That's the person that he is.
01:06:16.000 I met him once, and I didn't know who he was.
01:06:18.000 I met him backstage.
01:06:19.000 I'm glad I don't meet him now, because I don't know if I'd want to be anywhere near him.
01:06:26.000 How did you feel when you met him?
01:06:28.000 Did you see him normal?
01:06:29.000 I didn't know who he was.
01:06:31.000 When my friend confronted him, About what he'd done to the dogs.
01:06:35.000 He said he was hoping for some kind of aggressive reaction, like he was hoping that the guy was at least going to have a feeling about it.
01:06:43.000 But whatever he was telling the guy, whatever he was talking to Michael Vick about, Vick was just not there, just not present.
01:06:53.000 He didn't understand what was going on.
01:06:55.000 Not a very smart guy.
01:06:58.000 Joe, have you seen the Charles Ramsey 911 call?
01:07:01.000 I heard that's just terrifying.
01:07:03.000 Somebody just sent it to me with captions.
01:07:05.000 Yeah, sure.
01:07:06.000 Throw it up.
01:07:07.000 What you're about to hear is a 911 call placed by hero Charles Ramsey after he found Amanda Barry, a woman who had been kidnapped for the past decade.
01:07:15.000 This man saved her life.
01:07:16.000 5.52 p.m.
01:07:18.000 34 seconds.
01:07:20.000 May 62013. Cleveland 911 police.
01:07:24.000 Ambulance are fired.
01:07:25.000 Yeah, hey, bro.
01:07:26.000 I'm at 2207 Seymour, West 25th.
01:07:30.000 Hey, check this out.
01:07:31.000 I just came from McDonald's, right?
01:07:32.000 So I'm on my porch eating my little food, right?
01:07:34.000 This broad is trying to... 0.99
01:07:50.000 Sir, sir, sir, sir.
01:07:54.000 Is that real?
01:08:00.000 Is she still in the street or where does she go?
01:08:02.000 Yeah, I'm looking at it.
01:08:03.000 She's right now.
01:08:03.000 She's calling y'all.
01:08:04.000 She's on another phone.
01:08:06.000 Is she black, white, or Hispanic? 0.99
01:08:09.000 She's white, but the baby looks Hispanic.
01:08:10.000 Okay, what is she wearing?
01:08:13.000 White, pink, light blue sweatpants.
01:08:17.000 Like a wife beater. 1.00
01:08:18.000 Do you know the address next door?
01:08:20.000 Did she say she was in?
01:08:22.000 Yeah, 2207. I'm looking at it.
01:08:24.000 Okay, I thought that was your address.
01:08:26.000 I'm smarter than that, bro.
01:08:27.000 I'm telling you what a crime would.
01:08:31.000 Do you want to leave your name and number?
01:08:33.000 Charles Ramsey.
01:08:34.000 R-A-M-S-B-Y. What's the phone number?
01:08:39.000 Okay, if there's any justice in the world, this guy becomes fucking huger than Kim Kardashian. 0.98
01:08:44.000 That was Jules off Pulp Fiction, I'm sure of it. 0.99
01:08:47.000 That?
01:08:48.000 This is real.
01:08:49.000 I know.
01:08:51.000 That's what's funny about it.
01:08:52.000 This is a real guy.
01:09:04.000 There you go.
01:09:06.000 I like that guy. 1.00
01:09:07.000 That guy's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:09:08.000 You gotta get him on the podcast. 1.00
01:09:09.000 Fuck yeah, we do. 1.00
01:09:10.000 We have to make that guy president. 1.00
01:09:12.000 Wow, that was amazing.
01:09:13.000 That's a real man.
01:09:14.000 So he was breaking into that place, right?
01:09:19.000 I was coming from McDonald's and there was somebody trying to break out of the house.
01:09:22.000 She's trying to break out of her house, man. 0.99
01:09:24.000 How was she breaking out of the house?
01:09:25.000 Was she punching through a window? 0.60
01:09:27.000 I don't know.
01:09:27.000 She climbed out somehow.
01:09:29.000 Somehow or another she got out of whatever they had locked her up in.
01:09:32.000 Wow. 1.00
01:09:33.000 Crazy shit, man. 1.00
01:09:34.000 Ten fucking years and thinking that it's going to be the rest of your life having these guys just fuck you, hold you down and fuck you every night and feed you fucking oatmeal. 1.00
01:09:44.000 Some run-down house in Cleveland, you're a sex slave for the rest of your life. 1.00
01:09:47.000 So what do you do with those guys? 1.00
01:09:48.000 Kill them. 1.00
01:09:49.000 You've got to kill them. 1.00
01:09:50.000 They've just got to remove them from the gene pool. 1.00
01:09:53.000 But don't you think there's something kind of sinister about laying somebody down on a bed and injecting them?
01:09:59.000 To, like, put them down.
01:10:01.000 Yeah, I don't think it's necessary. 1.00
01:10:02.000 I think you just dig a hole, shoot them in the head, push them in the hole. 1.00
01:10:05.000 I really don't think you need to be fucking with all this injection. 1.00
01:10:08.000 It's so clinical, it makes it scary. 0.98
01:10:10.000 Well, that's what they're trying to do.
01:10:11.000 What they're trying to do is take the chaos out of murder.
01:10:15.000 They're trying to take all the variables out.
01:10:18.000 This is going to do it nice and easy.
01:10:19.000 A little poison.
01:10:20.000 Here you go. 1.00
01:10:21.000 Okay, you're dead. 1.00
01:10:22.000 Goodbye. 0.99
01:10:23.000 Take care.
01:10:23.000 That's it.
01:10:24.000 That's a wrap. 0.86
01:10:25.000 Instead of just shooting someone.
01:10:26.000 You know, I mean, did you ever see that movie Dead Man Walking?
01:10:28.000 No. 1.00
01:10:29.000 Sean Penn's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:10:31.000 I mean, that guy knows how to act his ass off. 1.00
01:10:33.000 He's a crazy dude, but he knows how to act his ass off. 0.99
01:10:36.000 And he played this guy that was dying. 1.00
01:10:38.000 He was going in for lethal injection.
01:10:41.000 And the way he played it was so real. 1.00
01:10:43.000 Like, you really thought he was going to fucking die. 0.99
01:10:46.000 That's all avoidable, man. 0.99
01:10:48.000 All that craziness of strapping that guy in and freaking him out and injecting him so that you can feel better.
01:10:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:10:55.000 Just shoot him in the fucking head and let's be done with this. 1.00
01:10:58.000 Okay? 1.00
01:10:59.000 It's real simple.
01:11:00.000 That's a bad person.
01:11:01.000 He's broken. 0.99
01:11:02.000 We gotta get rid of him. 1.00
01:11:04.000 Shoot him. 1.00
01:11:05.000 Okay, there we go. 1.00
01:11:06.000 Like they do on The Walking Dead. 0.89
01:11:08.000 I think they should put him in a trough first at a Skynyrd concert and we all get to piss on him.
01:11:13.000 Something cool like that first. 0.95
01:11:15.000 That's not cool.
01:11:16.000 That's just weird. 0.99
01:11:18.000 Yeah, let's piss on them. 0.99
01:11:19.000 Something cool. 0.96
01:11:20.000 Hey, what do you want to do today?
01:11:22.000 Something cool? 0.96
01:11:22.000 Let's piss on each other. 0.96
01:11:28.000 So, tell me about your journey in the jungle. 0.92
01:11:32.000 Okay, where was that all about?
01:11:33.000 What happened?
01:11:34.000 What caused you to want to do this?
01:11:36.000 I don't really know.
01:11:38.000 I don't really know.
01:11:39.000 I just felt like I was drawn to it.
01:11:42.000 I was speaking to a friend of mine.
01:11:44.000 I won't mention him, but he's another fighter.
01:11:46.000 Retired now.
01:11:47.000 And he did a couple of ceremonies in London, a friend's place.
01:11:51.000 They brought a shaman over and did a couple.
01:11:54.000 I've always been kind of the guy that if I wanted to experience something, I would go to the source.
01:11:58.000 If I wanted to do Kung Fu, I'd go to China.
01:12:01.000 If I want to wrestle, I'd come to America.
01:12:04.000 If I want to try ayahuasca, I'd go to Peru.
01:12:06.000 It just kind of made sense.
01:12:09.000 It was kind of like my reward for getting through the Dwayne Ludwig camp because that would have been a fifth loss in a row and obviously a complete change in career paths.
01:12:22.000 So I put 12 weeks aside to dedicate myself to that fight with that as a reward after.
01:12:29.000 A couple of days after the fight, I flew out and spent two weeks there.
01:12:33.000 I did a tobacco ceremony on the first day.
01:12:36.000 Two ayahuasca ceremonies and two San Pedro ceremonies. 1.00
01:12:39.000 Damn! 1.00
01:12:41.000 How is that tobacco ceremony? 1.00
01:12:43.000 Yeah, what is the tobacco ceremony?
01:12:44.000 They basically make a drink of tobacco, coffee and sugar and they cook it up and then you drink a whole load of it and it's like a purge, like a detox.
01:12:54.000 Like if you've got any kind of toxins in your system you throw up and you sweat and some people are crying and obviously there's all kinds of other nasty stuff that goes on as well.
01:13:03.000 It's a way of like cleansing your body before the ayahuasca.
01:13:06.000 Is it a theoretical cleansing or does it actually have a cleansing effect?
01:13:09.000 It's got a cleansing.
01:13:10.000 Fortunately I've been in training camp for 12 weeks so I've been on a clean diet and I just kept my diet clean until I got to Peru because there's a special diet for the ayahuasca.
01:13:19.000 Yeah, it's a low acidic diet, right?
01:13:22.000 Yeah, no salt, no sugar, no oils, no sex, no spices.
01:13:27.000 No oils?
01:13:28.000 No oils.
01:13:29.000 Really?
01:13:30.000 Yeah.
01:13:30.000 Why no oils?
01:13:31.000 I don't know.
01:13:32.000 I don't know.
01:13:33.000 That's interesting.
01:13:33.000 Yeah, there are a lot of things on the list that I'm kind of on the fence about.
01:13:38.000 It's weird because there's not really any kind of science behind it.
01:13:42.000 I mean, there are some things that you can't have because they react badly with the With the medicine, but some of the foods are kind of odd.
01:13:50.000 I just kind of go on instinct when I'm dieting for it.
01:13:53.000 Right.
01:13:54.000 Now, so the tobacco ceremony, there's no psychoactive effect?
01:13:58.000 No, nothing.
01:13:58.000 It's just like smoking three packets of cigarettes and drinking six Starbucks all at the same time.
01:14:03.000 So mixing it all together, that sounds like the future of Starbucks.
01:14:06.000 And I don't drink coffee.
01:14:08.000 I don't drink caffeine or obviously smoke cigarettes.
01:14:10.000 So I'm like sitting in my room like shaking and sweating.
01:14:15.000 Wow.
01:14:15.000 It was kind of uncomfortable.
01:14:17.000 Wow.
01:14:17.000 But once that was over, the next day was the first ayahuasca ceremony.
01:14:20.000 And I did feel real sharp the next morning.
01:14:22.000 I felt very alert.
01:14:24.000 Okay, so the next morning you do the ayahuasca ceremony.
01:14:27.000 What's that like?
01:14:28.000 Well, you don't eat a great deal during the day.
01:14:30.000 We had a light breakfast and then, you know, like a fruit snack around midday.
01:14:35.000 And then after that you fast and the ceremony starts at 8 p.m.
01:14:39.000 So the idea is that you go into the ceremony with intentions, the questions you want to ask.
01:14:47.000 There's always this talk about ayahuasca, the spirit of ayahuasca, mother ayahuasca, and some people during their experiences have an interaction with a female entity of some sort, but I didn't.
01:15:00.000 But the intentions are still very important.
01:15:03.000 Going into the ceremony with questions about myself or my life or Whatever, really.
01:15:10.000 For me, the answers just kind of manifest.
01:15:14.000 They just kind of show up.
01:15:15.000 I just kind of all of a sudden get an overwhelming feeling of the right answer.
01:15:20.000 I don't really know how to explain it better than that.
01:15:23.000 The problem is that I really feel like we've not got the language to explain this kind of stuff at the moment.
01:15:27.000 We need to expand our vocabulary to To encompass all the stuff that we experience in these things.
01:15:35.000 Yeah, a lot of people believe that what psychedelic states, even if they don't believe that you're really contacting the spirit world, what they think you're doing by forcing yourself to take a hard look at yourself, and address some questions that you might have one way or another but to do it with this stuff that it absolves your ego it removes the ego and in doing that it's a rare state that you get to get the fuck away from your ego but it really lets you get away from it to a point where
01:16:05.000 you can see things so much more clearly and you can realize How much of the ego has really been sort of tricking you and deceiving you and making you believe that you're either something that you're not or you've gone further than you really actually have or your ego has allowed you to sort of delude yourself,
01:16:24.000 to get by this very strenuous existence.
01:16:27.000 And when you go into a psychedelic state, It allows you to bypass all that and see it.
01:16:33.000 And that's where people don't understand that you can get to a mild psychedelic state from exercise and yoga.
01:16:42.000 And fasting and meditation.
01:16:45.000 You can get there.
01:16:47.000 In sensory deprivation types, you can get to a pretty extreme form with no drugs at all.
01:16:52.000 But the ayahuasca ceremony is basically known as the grand mal Of the psychedelic experiences, the most spiritual of the psychedelic experiences.
01:17:04.000 It's pretty powerful in comparison to other things I've experienced.
01:17:08.000 Have you ever experienced the raw form of DMT? Yeah, only once though.
01:17:13.000 Was it 5-MeO DMT or was it an N-DMT? There's two different kinds.
01:17:19.000 Okay.
01:17:20.000 5-MeO?
01:17:20.000 Yeah.
01:17:21.000 5-MeO is quite a bit different.
01:17:22.000 There's no visuals.
01:17:24.000 It's a very intense feeling of connection, and it's very, very potent.
01:17:28.000 In fact, I think it's like, supposedly, obviously I'm not some sort of a scientist here, but supposedly it's even more powerful gram per gram than DMT is.
01:17:38.000 But the DMT, the NM-DMT, is what you get in the ayahuasca.
01:17:42.000 Okay.
01:17:42.000 When you eat it, if you tried to eat DMT, there's a stomach chemical produced, you're Your stomach produces something called monoamine oxidase, apparently, and that breaks down DMT. So what these brilliant people that live in the Amazon have figured out how to do is mix the vine of one plant with the leaves of another and cook it all together.
01:18:06.000 So they introduced a natural MAO inhibitor.
01:18:09.000 Don't that blow your mind?
01:18:10.000 It's insane!
01:18:11.000 Blows your mind.
01:18:12.000 Did you ask them how they figured it out?
01:18:14.000 No.
01:18:15.000 Terence McKenna did, and he said that they always said that the plants told them how to do it.
01:18:20.000 But, you know, I've always thought about this with diet.
01:18:22.000 Like, people have been combining, like, incomplete proteins for years, like milk and cereal and rice and beans, and not knowing that those two things combined made a complete protein.
01:18:32.000 So why would they combine them?
01:18:35.000 Yeah, it's funny, right?
01:18:36.000 You know what I mean?
01:18:36.000 It's like an odd coincidence, but ayahuasca is like the same thing, but way more extreme.
01:18:41.000 There's a lot of folks that believe – I shouldn't say a lot of folks, but it's been speculated.
01:18:45.000 I've read work where people believe that what we've created with civilization and with societies and especially with like modern societies where there's like – Mass speed communication it's like people are sending each other text messages and watching television is that we're missing out key information that is there in nature and that literally if you're in a natural state like if you're living in a natural
01:19:16.000 state and you're away from the distractions and the madness of The fucking civilized world that there's literally a signal that you can't quite pick up anymore. 0.85
01:19:28.000 And that signal is like a guide to get through life. 0.96
01:19:33.000 Like the Earth literally does talk to you.
01:19:36.000 Is that the collective consciousness, do you think?
01:19:38.000 I don't know.
01:19:39.000 I mean, I don't know if I believe that it ever really was the case, that people were much more sensitive to the language of the Earth.
01:19:45.000 It is possible.
01:19:47.000 I think it's really hard to even wrap our heads around what it must have been like before there were language.
01:19:53.000 And all the toxins that we've produced as well.
01:19:56.000 All the things that we've introduced to our diet and to our bodies.
01:19:59.000 Like the dashboard on my truck outside is killing me slowly.
01:20:03.000 You know what I mean?
01:20:03.000 That kind of stuff.
01:20:04.000 They emit all kinds of chemicals like fluoride as people are now starting to understand. 1.00
01:20:11.000 Yeah, fucking fluoride is bad for you. 1.00
01:20:13.000 How nutty is that? 1.00
01:20:15.000 It calcifies your pineal gland.
01:20:17.000 Supposedly.
01:20:17.000 I don't know if there's any real studies.
01:20:19.000 I have a feeling that might be something that someone just said once and everybody just repeats.
01:20:23.000 I can take it out and I don't mind.
01:20:25.000 Well, I don't think there's necessarily a lot of evidence that it's good for you.
01:20:30.000 I think people say that there's a connection between putting fluoride in the water and removing tooth decay.
01:20:36.000 But that also coincided with education about brushing. 0.97
01:20:40.000 I mean, all that shit went down when people realized that you have to brush, you know? 0.98
01:20:45.000 And then putting fluoride in your toothbrush, in your toothpaste, apparently that's not so good either. 0.99
01:20:50.000 Even though you don't eat it, still, there's a reason why you don't swallow that stuff once you, like, fucking foam it up in your mouth. 0.81
01:20:58.000 If it's in the drinking water, though. 0.93
01:20:59.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:21:00.000 Fucking, it's crazy. 1.00
01:21:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:21:02.000 But why do we still do it, though?
01:21:04.000 I don't know.
01:21:06.000 I'm sure there's some grand scheme that someone will send me a tweet about and I'll spend the next four hours festering over it.
01:21:13.000 I think these are things that are potentially keeping us disconnected from this whatever we're missing out on, this language that we're missing out on from the...
01:21:21.000 Maybe.
01:21:22.000 It's possible.
01:21:23.000 But I think that if you were living in the jungle and you needed to survive there, it is possible that you would at least have an idea of mixing these two things together and cooking them.
01:21:33.000 Yeah.
01:21:33.000 Could you imagine if you found out you were right?
01:21:36.000 Like, when you created ayahuasca, I mean, if the dude just nailed it the first time, like, well, let's see what we got here.
01:21:41.000 Takes a sip.
01:21:42.000 Yeah.
01:21:42.000 Do-do [...]-do.
01:21:46.000 He must have been like, God damn, did I knock it out of the park? 1.00
01:21:49.000 Fuck your vegetable soup. 1.00
01:21:50.000 I got some shit that will kick your dick right into the dirt, son. 1.00
01:21:54.000 But look at the guy that discovered LSD. Yeah, Albert Hoffman. 1.00
01:21:59.000 Completely by accident.
01:22:00.000 Not only that, he rode home and thought he was going mad.
01:22:03.000 Was he cycling home or something? 1.00
01:22:05.000 Yeah, his fucking bicycle. 1.00
01:22:06.000 First LSD trip ever. 1.00
01:22:10.000 And then didn't he go back a couple of days later and took like five times the amount or something?
01:22:14.000 I don't know.
01:22:15.000 I think the initial amount he took was way higher than a normal dose.
01:22:21.000 It's like a bucket.
01:22:22.000 I think it came in through his fingers, I think.
01:22:26.000 Because that's the thing about acid.
01:22:28.000 It'll go right through your skin.
01:22:30.000 I've had that happen.
01:22:31.000 That's exciting.
01:22:33.000 For the first time, the first dude to figure out ayahuasca, how long ago was that?
01:22:39.000 They say it's at least 2,000 years.
01:22:42.000 They say they've shown archaeological evidence of ayahuasca use up to 2,000 years ago.
01:22:48.000 I can't make sense of it now, and I have a much more...
01:22:53.000 A much better understanding of the universe, as obviously science knows it.
01:22:58.000 But back then, when all you know is the jungle and the plants around you, how would you even begin to make sense of that?
01:23:06.000 How would you begin to make sense of that?
01:23:08.000 Yeah, how would you?
01:23:10.000 And then how do you become an expert at introducing that to other people, like a shaman?
01:23:14.000 Which I find really fascinating, the idea of shamanism.
01:23:17.000 It's very fascinating.
01:23:18.000 You know why it's fascinating?
01:23:19.000 Because you've experienced it and you know it's real.
01:23:21.000 To Joe Construction Worker Lunchbox that's listening to this nonsense right now. 0.94
01:23:26.000 You know, I like that Joe Rogan podcast, but every now and then, they go off the fucking tinfoil hat deep end, and this guy's talking about journey into the spirit world, and I want to be a shaman. 0.99
01:23:37.000 Get the fuck out of here! 1.00
01:23:39.000 Tell me a joke, ass face, okay? 1.00
01:23:41.000 That's what you're here for, you fuck. 1.00
01:23:43.000 That guy's a black belt under Matt Serra. 1.00
01:23:48.000 Possibly.
01:23:49.000 Possibly.
01:23:50.000 Well done.
01:23:51.000 Yeah, you know it's real.
01:23:54.000 You've done it.
01:23:55.000 You've experienced it.
01:23:55.000 And it's not just real.
01:23:57.000 It's real in a way where you feel sorry for people who haven't experienced it.
01:24:02.000 But at the same time, when I first came back from Peru and people were asking me, is this something that everyone should experience?
01:24:08.000 I was saying yes to everybody, but now I'm not so sure.
01:24:12.000 I was walking through the Luxor the other day and, you know, God bless America and all the people that were pumping money into those slots and smoking cigarettes and drinking beers.
01:24:21.000 But they need to do a lot of self-discovery without an altered state before they would be even ready for that.
01:24:27.000 If you took them and gave them ayahuasca, it would ruin them forever.
01:24:31.000 Maybe.
01:24:32.000 Maybe just seeing them at their worst.
01:24:35.000 Maybe they would say that about you if they caught you beaten off.
01:24:37.000 Well, maybe.
01:24:38.000 Your eyes cross, your tongue out of your mouth. 1.00
01:24:42.000 And we're like, yeah, this guy really needs a fucking ayahuasca seminar. 1.00
01:24:45.000 You need to get your own life together, son. 0.99
01:24:47.000 They would come down on you.
01:24:49.000 But it's kind of weird because the people that find their way to it are already in a place in their life where they're kind of prepared for it.
01:24:57.000 I think that happens a lot of the time, but I'm not completely convinced that happens all the time.
01:25:03.000 I've definitely heard of people having bad experiences or going there when they weren't ready for it.
01:25:07.000 I think psychedelic experiences are incredibly powerful. 0.97
01:25:11.000 And to say that people should or shouldn't do it is equally foolish. 0.98
01:25:16.000 Because to say that someone should do it is like, how the fuck do you know that guy should do it? 0.99
01:25:20.000 What, because you did it and you like it? 0.92
01:25:22.000 You know?
01:25:22.000 Yeah, I'd agree with that.
01:25:24.000 I just think, you know...
01:25:27.000 It's a lot to process for someone that's open-minded.
01:25:30.000 So for someone that is buying into the Oprah cult and, you know...
01:25:34.000 Oprah's badass, dude. 1.00
01:25:36.000 Don't get it wrong.
01:25:36.000 Don't get it twisted.
01:25:37.000 I'd like to take Oprah to Peru.
01:25:40.000 That's what we need to do.
01:25:41.000 We need to get Oprah and bring her to the jungle. 0.99
01:25:44.000 I think this is the way forward.
01:25:45.000 I think this is how we move to the next stage of our evolution.
01:25:48.000 We've got to start getting some of these power people and taking them out there. 0.99
01:25:51.000 I think it's already happening.
01:25:53.000 We haven't heard about it all yet.
01:25:55.000 I hope so.
01:25:56.000 Listen, there really are people, and there really are, that really do have a massive amount of power in this world, and they really do.
01:26:03.000 You don't think that they've wanted to look into that?
01:26:06.000 Like, why would you not want to look into that? 0.98
01:26:08.000 If there's anything that could freak you out if you were in the Bilderberger group, you motherfuckers sitting around doing ayahuasca, talking to the great serpent as it breaks down your life and the kind of damage that you're doing to society and civilization and how unnecessary it is and how you're still unhappy even though you're doing it. 1.00
01:26:26.000 Even though you're manipulating the banks, controlling the resources of the world, instigating wars overseas, and profiting off of it in some strange fucking shell game that nobody completely understands, you're still not happy, bitch. 1.00
01:26:38.000 And that's what it would tell you. 0.99
01:26:40.000 It would be good for everybody.
01:26:42.000 But what do you think if you got the Bilderberg into a ceremony? 1.00
01:26:45.000 I think they all need to realize that you don't need that much money, you fuck. 1.00
01:26:49.000 Crazy. 1.00
01:26:50.000 You're going crazy, asshole. 1.00
01:26:51.000 You got caught up in your own game. 1.00
01:26:53.000 You got to the point where you're controlling the world's economy and you're worth billions.
01:26:56.000 What are you doing?
01:26:57.000 You don't need billions. 1.00
01:26:58.000 That's stupid, man. 1.00
01:26:59.000 That's dumb. 1.00
01:27:00.000 You can have a nice house and food and not worry about shit for way less. 1.00
01:27:05.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:27:05.000 And never have to worry about a single thing for the rest of your life. 0.98
01:27:09.000 Like, you're in some crazy stratosphere that no one reaches, and you're still trying to make more money. 0.99
01:27:14.000 You're still trying to fuck people over. 1.00
01:27:15.000 You're a sick fuck. 1.00
01:27:16.000 You're sick. 1.00
01:27:17.000 Because obviously you broke it. 1.00
01:27:19.000 It's very stupid, too. 1.00
01:27:21.000 Because you could be having a great fucking time every day for the rest of your life. 1.00
01:27:26.000 If I had billions of dollars, every day would be fishing, I would fucking go fly kites, I would travel... 0.99
01:27:33.000 Today we're going to Hawaii! 1.00
01:27:34.000 Who gives a fuck? 1.00
01:27:35.000 You've got a hundred million dollars in the bank! 0.99
01:27:39.000 Instead, what are you doing? 1.00
01:27:40.000 You're trying to fuck over Portugal. 1.00
01:27:41.000 You're trying to steal oil out of the Amazon. 1.00
01:27:44.000 What are you trying to do?
01:27:45.000 What are you trying to do? 0.99
01:27:46.000 You're fucking cunting up the world. 1.00
01:27:48.000 It's not necessary, but they don't know any better because they're caught up. 0.99
01:27:51.000 Just like those same people at the casino, those people are caught up too.
01:27:55.000 They're caught up in a hitch in the human mind that allows you to try to solve puzzles and seek conclusions. 1.00
01:28:02.000 And you just hijack that shit with three lemons. 1.00
01:28:05.000 Come on! 1.00
01:28:06.000 I can find the three lemons.
01:28:08.000 They're in there. 1.00
01:28:08.000 And then your brain gets locked in this stupid thing. 1.00
01:28:11.000 And then the cigarettes, you're sucking on these cigarettes that these same people are extracting millions of dollars from the society by feeding people these poisonous fucking weed-filled tubes that you light on fire in. 1.00
01:28:23.000 You poison yourself, nice and slow. 0.99
01:28:25.000 And then when they get sick, they give them the drugs to fix it. 1.00
01:28:27.000 Yeah, I got plenty of shit to fix. 0.99
01:28:30.000 Basically, we're going to knock cancer out of the box in the next couple of years. 0.99
01:28:32.000 You don't have to worry about it, Mr. Johnson. 1.00
01:28:33.000 Just keep fucking smoking away. 1.00
01:28:37.000 We live in a mad world. 1.00
01:28:39.000 We live in a world that should be a movie, and nowhere is that more readily available or honest than when you have a psychedelic experience.
01:28:48.000 Because when you see what mushrooms can do, or you can see what...
01:28:53.000 DMT could do, whether it's an ayahuasca or a regular form, you realize there really is a magic in the world. 0.98
01:29:01.000 And it sounds so stupid that if you haven't experienced it, you really wouldn't. 0.99
01:29:08.000 And even people who have experienced it, they don't want to describe it that way because they don't want to sound stupid to people who haven't experienced it. 1.00
01:29:15.000 So they'll go, look, it's nothing magic. 0.94
01:29:16.000 Your cerebral cortex gets flooded with chemicals.
01:29:20.000 The visual aspect of your interpretation of the world around you gets hijacked by these new chemicals.
01:29:27.000 Maybe.
01:29:29.000 Maybe.
01:29:31.000 Or maybe you haven't done it yet.
01:29:32.000 Yeah.
01:29:33.000 And if you have done it, maybe you're just cynical. 0.99
01:29:35.000 Maybe you're missing out on what the fuck that is. 1.00
01:29:38.000 That's some magic fairy dust, bitch. 1.00
01:29:39.000 You get to go to a fairyland. 0.99
01:29:41.000 But I do find that I can't speak as openly with people that haven't had that experience anymore. 0.96
01:29:46.000 No, because you sound crazy.
01:29:47.000 Exactly, yeah.
01:29:48.000 I say energy a lot more than I used to.
01:29:52.000 I say powerful a lot.
01:29:53.000 Do you?
01:29:54.000 Good.
01:29:54.000 It's a good thing to say.
01:29:55.000 I have a lot of power days now.
01:29:57.000 Sometimes I'll get to the end of the day and I'll be like, yep, that was a power day.
01:30:00.000 I'll be out in the Valley of Fire and swimming in Lake Mead and stuff.
01:30:05.000 What's your kale count per day? 0.97
01:30:06.000 Oh, it's ridiculous. 1.00
01:30:12.000 Yeah, but thinking that way, like being powerful and thinking positively, that really does change your fucking life. 1.00
01:30:20.000 It does. 0.99
01:30:20.000 And people don't understand that. 0.99
01:30:22.000 It is silly. 0.85
01:30:23.000 Yeah, it definitely seems silly. 0.89
01:30:24.000 If you're a serious person who's a conservative man who's not to be mocked and laughed at, you wouldn't engage in such behaviors.
01:30:33.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:30:34.000 Life itself is silly. 0.98
01:30:35.000 The whole thing is silly. 0.99
01:30:36.000 The whole thing is completely ridiculous. 0.99
01:30:38.000 You know? 1.00
01:30:39.000 For you to not, you know, to be worried about looking stupid by trying that out. 1.00
01:30:44.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:30:46.000 My whole perspective of life changed, though.
01:30:49.000 I quite like the temporariness of it now.
01:30:51.000 Do you?
01:30:52.000 Yeah, because the space that I always experience, you know, with the ayahuasca and, you know, other psychedelics like, you know, DMT or psilocybin, I always feel like...
01:31:04.000 Like, the place I reach when I've had the right kind of amount is a very familiar, safe place.
01:31:09.000 I feel like I've been there hundreds of times before.
01:31:12.000 It's like, oh, I'm back.
01:31:13.000 Yeah, isn't that the weirdest thing about it?
01:31:15.000 It's really odd.
01:31:16.000 The weirdest thing about it is how it feels so comfortable and so normal.
01:31:20.000 It feels so familiar.
01:31:22.000 Yeah.
01:31:22.000 I think a woman described it in the DMT, the Spirit Molecule book, Dr. Rick Strassman.
01:31:27.000 She said, it feels like a waiting room between death and birth.
01:31:31.000 Which I thought was kind of an interesting perspective.
01:31:34.000 Wow.
01:31:34.000 I remember my latest psychedelic trip, that it was just like that, where I'm like, I've been here before, why can't I remember this?
01:31:41.000 It seems like I do that a lot, like go to the same place so many times.
01:31:45.000 Yeah, well...
01:31:46.000 That could just be a part of your brain, you know?
01:31:48.000 It could, but it's so close to normal human neurochemistry. 0.99
01:31:52.000 The most profound ones, they're so close to normal shit your brain produces. 0.99
01:31:57.000 Like, mushrooms... 0.99
01:31:58.000 Mushrooms and DMT are very closely related chemically, and DMT is produced by your brain.
01:32:05.000 So all of those experiences, they know exactly where to hit in your mind to produce this stuff.
01:32:11.000 I can't think that that's a coincidence.
01:32:13.000 I can't think that that's an accident.
01:32:16.000 I like Terence McKenna's theory on the introduction of psilocybin into the human diet.
01:32:21.000 When we became, from the canopy-dwelling fruit eaters to the plain-dwelling Kind of forages.
01:32:28.000 I don't know if that holds up scientifically as far as the timeline, but I've never heard anyone say anything more plausible.
01:32:36.000 There's no real serious explanation.
01:32:39.000 It was a massive jump forward.
01:32:40.000 It was a huge leap in consciousness.
01:32:41.000 A doubling of the human brain size over a period of two million years.
01:32:44.000 And apparently that's the greatest mystery in the entire fossil record.
01:32:49.000 I've always wanted to have a real light dose of mushrooms and fight, like a gram or a gram and a half.
01:32:54.000 And fight.
01:32:55.000 And fight, yeah.
01:32:56.000 Yeah, well, you know, I know people have played pool with it, and they say they can't miss.
01:32:59.000 They say they know where the ball is at all times.
01:33:01.000 They feel it moving on the table in three-dimensional space.
01:33:04.000 Wow.
01:33:05.000 Yeah, guys used to play pool on small amounts of acid, too, and have the best game of their life.
01:33:10.000 Why pool, though?
01:33:11.000 I mean, what a waste of LSD. I guess you'd want to be doing something creative, but if you were a serious pool player, that's apparently the way to get really awesome at it.
01:33:21.000 Who's a serious pool player?
01:33:21.000 Me.
01:33:22.000 I play a lot of pool, yeah, for real.
01:33:25.000 He's addicted.
01:33:26.000 Not as a job, though.
01:33:27.000 You don't do it like...
01:33:27.000 I would.
01:33:28.000 I would play professionally.
01:33:29.000 What about golf, though?
01:33:31.000 No, no.
01:33:31.000 First of all, golf, you're out there walking around in the rain.
01:33:34.000 That's retarded. 1.00
01:33:35.000 And second of all, you're chasing a ball around. 0.99
01:33:38.000 The pool, it's all on this one table.
01:33:40.000 The environment is exactly the same every time.
01:33:42.000 You're not dealing with holes and rolls.
01:33:45.000 I bet I would love golf, but I'm terrified of trying it and finding out that I love it.
01:33:49.000 Because it's so unpredictable.
01:33:50.000 So much work! 1.00
01:33:51.000 You're out there eight hours a day chasing a fucking ball. 1.00
01:33:53.000 When you play 18 holes, that's several hours worth of playing. 1.00
01:33:56.000 Eight hours of drinking, though, Joe.
01:33:58.000 But would you enjoy it more with LSD? Bill Murray did in Caddyshack.
01:34:03.000 Wasn't that his thing?
01:34:05.000 Wasn't it?
01:34:06.000 He'd take acid and play golf.
01:34:08.000 I know that people have done it.
01:34:10.000 It gives you more sensitivity apparently, more spatial recognition, more understanding of distance.
01:34:18.000 Depth perception.
01:34:19.000 And apparently in a way that really you'd never see this field.
01:34:24.000 Maybe that's Anderson Silva's secret.
01:34:26.000 He's on acid every time he fights!
01:34:28.000 That makes perfect sense.
01:34:30.000 Yeah, could you imagine if he... 1.00
01:34:31.000 Well, no steroids, but you tested positive for mushrooms, you fuck. 1.00
01:34:35.000 Like, Jesus, what are you doing? 1.00
01:34:36.000 Yeah.
01:34:37.000 Fighting on mushrooms?
01:34:37.000 There should be a separate belt for that entirely.
01:34:39.000 Well, there was a baseball player, a famous baseball player, who pitched a no-hitter while he was on acid.
01:34:44.000 Really?
01:34:45.000 Yeah, who was that?
01:34:46.000 Do you know who it is?
01:34:46.000 Hold on.
01:34:48.000 I'll pull it up.
01:34:50.000 No-hitter on acid.
01:34:51.000 It was during the 70s.
01:34:54.000 And apparently what happened was he wasn't supposed to be pitching.
01:34:57.000 Doc Ellis.
01:34:58.000 He wasn't supposed to be pitching that day.
01:35:00.000 So he decided to get lit up.
01:35:02.000 Took some acid and then like something happened.
01:35:04.000 They called him in and he had to go play.
01:35:06.000 And he said he was just flying high and he pitched a no-hitter.
01:35:11.000 See, I'd have loved to have lived through those days of sport instead of these now.
01:35:14.000 These are too regulated, you know?
01:35:16.000 Let's go back to those 1960s and 70s.
01:35:20.000 Those were crazy days, but you can't go back.
01:35:23.000 They're going to be looking back at this day thinking how crazy we were as well.
01:35:27.000 I often think of all the things that we're going to look back on.
01:35:30.000 Even when I'm old, I'm going to look back and be like, wow, we actually did that.
01:35:33.000 I remember people smoking on planes.
01:35:35.000 Yes, I remember that.
01:35:36.000 That's crazy.
01:35:39.000 I live in Vegas now.
01:35:42.000 I walk into the casino and I'm like, oh, people smoke everywhere.
01:35:44.000 It's like two years ago that people stopped smoking in the UK. I've immediately made the adjustment though.
01:35:51.000 So in 30 or 40 years time, when I'm on a plane, I can't even imagine what it would be like.
01:35:57.000 But we're going to look back at Delta and be like, hell no.
01:36:01.000 I can't believe I ever did that.
01:36:03.000 I lost my bags.
01:36:04.000 I was stuck between two fat guys sweating on me.
01:36:09.000 There's going to be one day, I'm sure there's going to be a better version of that. 0.98
01:36:12.000 But the smoking in the sky is the most ridiculous one.
01:36:15.000 Or when, like, nurses and dentists smoke while they're actually working? 0.89
01:36:19.000 Oh, yeah! 1.00
01:36:20.000 Those old 1950s movies and shit? 1.00
01:36:23.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:36:24.000 Yeah, everyone smoked.
01:36:25.000 I was watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers the other day, the old version. 0.99
01:36:29.000 Fucking doctor sitting there, lighting up in the middle of a doctor's appointment. 0.98
01:36:33.000 We're definitely talking too much about cigarettes today. 1.00
01:36:35.000 I'm freaking out.
01:36:36.000 Yeah.
01:36:37.000 He's junkie.
01:36:38.000 He's hooked.
01:36:40.000 But, yeah, the...
01:36:41.000 Do you think that...
01:36:44.000 I mean, it sounds like a crazy thing to say, but do you think that the future...
01:36:49.000 I'm sure you are, right?
01:36:51.000 Do you think that the future of the world...
01:36:53.000 Do you think that it really depends on how many people have psychedelic experiences?
01:37:00.000 Yeah.
01:37:01.000 That we need to tip the numbers.
01:37:05.000 In that direction in order to get just a large percentage of people that are at least willing to question the way the whole thing is built.
01:37:15.000 At least willing to question the way they're living their own lives.
01:37:18.000 At least willing to question what it is we're doing here.
01:37:21.000 What are we doing exactly?
01:37:22.000 Moving on momentum every day.
01:37:24.000 Getting up when your alarm clock goes off. 0.99
01:37:26.000 What the fuck are we doing? 0.98
01:37:28.000 But we're running on, like Terence McKenna would say, an operating system and the one that we're running on is prehistoric. 0.99
01:37:33.000 Everyone's trying to control each other.
01:37:35.000 Everyone's jealous of what everybody else has got and we really need to get past that and realise that I don't need to be jealous of what anybody else has got because I'm good with what I've got.
01:37:45.000 People are not finding peace so they surround themselves with things that they think make them happy.
01:37:50.000 We haven't been aware for very long.
01:37:52.000 I think that's a real problem. 0.87
01:37:54.000 I think that the human race is in the middle of waking up and trying to figure out what the fuck it did to get here and what it can do moving forward. 0.98
01:38:03.000 And right now we're still operating on what it did to get here. 0.96
01:38:06.000 We're still operating on the ripples of the effects of everything that's gone on in the past.
01:38:12.000 And so when you say something like that, like, yeah, I mean, people need to do psychedelics, they just immediately dismiss you. 1.00
01:38:18.000 Like, you're all, oh, this crazy fuck. 1.00
01:38:20.000 Like, listen to him. 1.00
01:38:21.000 Yeah, people need to do drugs. 1.00
01:38:22.000 Yeah, that's what they need to do, Dan Hardy.
01:38:24.000 They need to do drugs. 1.00
01:38:25.000 But the thing is, I don't think the focus should be, well, it has to be psychedelics.
01:38:30.000 It's just about people becoming more conscious, making conscious decisions.
01:38:34.000 And, you know, even when it comes to, like, diet and exercise practice and...
01:38:39.000 Just your approach to people and to relationships, to how you deal with people.
01:38:44.000 Your impact on the world.
01:38:46.000 And as soon as more people start thinking about that, then we're going to start moving forward.
01:38:50.000 I think psychedelics is just kind of a shortcut.
01:38:53.000 Like, you know, it just kind of upgrades you a little bit quicker.
01:38:56.000 You see things a little clearer.
01:38:57.000 Like, before my first ayahuasca experience, I always felt like I was in amongst my issues.
01:39:04.000 Like, they were surrounding me and I couldn't really see clearly.
01:39:06.000 I couldn't get the pieces in order to put them together right.
01:39:09.000 And as soon as that first ceremony was over, I felt like I could step back and look at all the pieces in front of me and, like, piece things together.
01:39:15.000 Almost like everything's a game.
01:39:17.000 You know, and I think...
01:39:18.000 Was it Tom Campbell you were talking to a while ago?
01:39:21.000 There's a video of you and him on...
01:39:23.000 On YouTube talking, and he's talking about the idea of...
01:39:27.000 Thomas Campbell?
01:39:28.000 Yeah, Thomas Campbell.
01:39:31.000 The soup guy?
01:39:34.000 I'm sure that's his name.
01:39:37.000 What was it about, what we were talking about?
01:39:39.000 You know, just the idea, like The Matrix, like it's a video game.
01:39:44.000 Oh, I see.
01:39:45.000 I think they combined us in something.
01:39:48.000 Yeah, that's a good video anyway.
01:39:49.000 That's a very interesting video.
01:39:50.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
01:39:53.000 There's a lot of people that do these brilliant videos.
01:39:55.000 Just kind of edit them together.
01:39:56.000 Yeah, they do them on their own.
01:39:57.000 No one tells them to do it.
01:39:59.000 They just do it.
01:39:59.000 And there's so many of them out there, man.
01:40:01.000 It's incredible.
01:40:02.000 But my approach to life now is almost like a video game.
01:40:06.000 Like, I'm constantly trying to level up.
01:40:09.000 I'm constantly trying to get to the next stage to try and, like, forced evolution almost.
01:40:14.000 Right.
01:40:14.000 You know?
01:40:15.000 And I think that, like, we were talking about this the other day, swimming in the lake, smoking weed, just kind of hanging out, and all of a sudden it all kind of fell into place for me.
01:40:27.000 Like, there are certain people that make an effort to reach a higher consciousness.
01:40:33.000 So imagine them as like bubbles on the table.
01:40:35.000 Imagine the table is full of bubbles.
01:40:36.000 And one of those people starts to drift off a little quicker.
01:40:39.000 And that is going to create a reaction of the people around it and then they're going to pull up.
01:40:43.000 And occasionally you're going to get like a Jim Morrison or a Hendrix or a Martin Luther King and they just kind of go and just pop and explode.
01:40:50.000 But they cause such a ripple that they start to raise everybody else's consciousness.
01:40:55.000 So I think everybody has a responsibility to raise their own.
01:40:58.000 And by doing that, we're gonna affect the people around us.
01:41:02.000 That's such a hippie term.
01:41:03.000 It is.
01:41:04.000 Raise your consciousness.
01:41:05.000 It is. 0.98
01:41:06.000 But I am a filthy hippie now. 1.00
01:41:09.000 But it sounds like what a dude would say if he was trying to fuck you. 1.00
01:41:13.000 You know, I'm just trying to raise your consciousness. 1.00
01:41:15.000 If you and I made love, maybe bring us closer.
01:41:19.000 Wow, that does sound like me.
01:41:23.000 Listen, Dan Hardy, I know your tricks, son. 0.89
01:41:27.000 But what you're saying, though, I agree with entirely, even though it sounds like dirty hippy talk.
01:41:32.000 What you're saying is that we have to kind of realize that the only way to really enjoy this life is you got to not just bring yourself up, but bring up the people around you.
01:41:45.000 And as they rise up, it'll rise you up as well.
01:41:47.000 And that we really are all connected.
01:41:49.000 And it's your ego That keeps you from seeing that.
01:41:53.000 It's your ego from trying to separate yourself from all these people that are around you and thinking that you're on your own.
01:41:59.000 But you're not on your own.
01:42:00.000 No one's on their own.
01:42:01.000 And I struggle to come to terms with some things like the way Michael Vick treats animals.
01:42:07.000 There's a documentary I tweeted a while ago on YouTube and I apologize for anybody that watched it because it's the most awful thing I've ever seen.
01:42:13.000 It's called Earthlings.
01:42:14.000 And it's just a video of the different ways that humans use and treat animals.
01:42:19.000 And I got to like 26 minutes and I had to stop watching it.
01:42:22.000 It was so difficult.
01:42:23.000 And I always struggle with coming to terms with why that happens.
01:42:26.000 Why is that there?
01:42:27.000 And my conclusion is that because it causes me to have a reaction, to have a feeling about it.
01:42:33.000 So everybody that sees it, everybody that witnesses that, will immediately form an opinion and that defines them a little further to themselves.
01:42:40.000 We have to ask these questions about how do we feel about that.
01:42:44.000 That makes me feel uncomfortable.
01:42:45.000 I don't think that that's necessary and I don't want to watch that.
01:42:48.000 Well, it also, the reason why that exists, the reason why those things can happen is that people are willing to overlook Normal human morals and values in favor of profits. 0.99
01:43:03.000 As soon as the numbers, the one and the zero become the almighty, then you're fucked. 0.67
01:43:09.000 Because then you're caught up in the wave of ones and zeros yourself. 0.99
01:43:13.000 You can become just as disposable as anybody else.
01:43:16.000 That alone should Get people recognize that.
01:43:21.000 Humanely, if you want to get through this life humanely, you cannot only look at the ones and zeros. 0.90
01:43:27.000 Because that's everything that's fucked up about the world. 0.62
01:43:31.000 Whether it's war, whether it's manipulation of the markets, whether it's controlling a natural... 0.94
01:43:37.000 All of it is about ones and zeros.
01:43:40.000 100%.
01:43:40.000 And the people that have built this society around it, this operating system that we function under...
01:43:47.000 They've kind of corralled us into a position where we don't have to make these decisions.
01:43:52.000 We don't have to ask these questions about, you know, does the Hummer that I drive drink far too much fuel and am I having too much impact on my environment around me? 0.99
01:44:00.000 Am I an asshole for driving it? 0.99
01:44:02.000 You know what I mean? 1.00
01:44:03.000 People don't need to ask this question.
01:44:04.000 And you say this as a man who loves classic cars.
01:44:07.000 You know, and it's a love-hate relationship.
01:44:08.000 I have my Pontiac sitting in the garage, and I drive it probably once a month.
01:44:13.000 And I've been talking about it, about selling it for a while.
01:44:17.000 You're going to get a Prius Dan Harney? 1.00
01:44:19.000 You better not get a Prius, son of a bitch. 1.00
01:44:21.000 I can't do a Prius. 1.00
01:44:22.000 Don't do it.
01:44:23.000 But the thing is, the thing that doesn't make any sense. 0.58
01:44:24.000 Those Shelby GT500s, the new ones, are pretty fucking good on gas. 0.54
01:44:28.000 Really? 0.95
01:44:28.000 Turns out a big, powerful engine that's not working very hard is pretty efficient. 0.95
01:44:32.000 But the thing is, the technology's there.
01:44:34.000 As long as you don't drive like a douche.
01:44:35.000 Just get the dancing bears around your belly button. 1.00
01:44:38.000 But it's like in the UK, I had a Kia sponsorship for a while in the UK and they would give me a new car every time I went back to drive.
01:44:46.000 What a thrill!
01:44:48.000 But seriously though, it was a 1.6 diesel, it got like 60 miles to the gallon.
01:44:53.000 So why is that technology not making it over to the U.S.? Because it's boring as fuck to drive. 0.99
01:44:58.000 There's no soul. 0.99
01:45:00.000 You can't listen to Leonard Skinner music where you're driving around in a Kia diesel.
01:45:04.000 So the option's a Prius that gets 42 miles to go.
01:45:08.000 Doesn't sound right.
01:45:09.000 You want to hear the engine.
01:45:10.000 You want to be able to shift your own gears, son.
01:45:13.000 All these things that are dying off.
01:45:16.000 I bemoan that.
01:45:17.000 But then on the flip side, you know, should I drive a car that drinks so much fuel so eventually we can get through this quicker and then the people that have control of the fuel will lose their power.
01:45:25.000 And then we can start thinking ahead, you know.
01:45:27.000 And then we need diesel to run our muscle cars. 0.92
01:45:32.000 It's a finite resource, so maybe we should just get through it as quickly as possible.
01:45:36.000 It is a finite resource apparently, but I don't understand how that works.
01:45:40.000 I don't understand how much oil is left. 0.97
01:45:42.000 The problem with one of those controversial subjects like peak oil is when you hear those guys talk, you don't know who the fuck is right. 0.82
01:45:49.000 You know, this guy's saying... 0.81
01:45:50.000 I read a book called Black Gold Stranglehold that was claiming that oil is a repeatedly made fluid.
01:46:00.000 And that wells that have gone dry, if you give them enough time, they start producing oil again.
01:46:05.000 The thing is though, the only people that know the real facts are the people that are in control anyway.
01:46:09.000 So why would they tell us the truth?
01:46:10.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.80
01:46:11.000 I mean, the idea that anybody could own the oil, I mean, that's ridiculous. 1.00
01:46:15.000 That's the whole earth, you fuck. 1.00
01:46:17.000 You can't just fly over there in your metal boxes, Genghis Khan. 1.00
01:46:20.000 But I say this about Red Rock Canyon.
01:46:22.000 I'll go out there hiking and I'll get there at 4.50 and the park closes at 5. It's a mountain.
01:46:27.000 How does it close?
01:46:31.000 You know what that's from? 1.00
01:46:32.000 They're tired of picking people's pieces up and having people say, listen, you fucks, you can't be out here because it's dangerous and too many of you dummies get drunk and fall off cliffs and die. 1.00
01:46:42.000 I think those dummies should get drunk and fall off cliffs and die. 1.00
01:46:45.000 I think that's the way of thinning the hood without actually going out and shooting people. 1.00
01:46:48.000 I'm with you, son.
01:46:49.000 You know, there was a woman who recently died like this week in France, and she fell from like 900 feet off the top of a cliff.
01:46:58.000 By the time they got down to her, the vultures had already eaten her. 1.00
01:47:02.000 Well, that saved carrying her back.
01:47:04.000 Yes!
01:47:06.000 That's one way to look at it.
01:47:07.000 But let's just take all of the safety precautions that we have, fences around moving parts and crossings.
01:47:16.000 If you can't make it across the street without getting hit by a car, another thing as well, and I have a lot of people that disagreed with me when I spoke about this on Twitter, 15 mile an hour zones around schools.
01:47:26.000 If all the time, when I was a kid, I grew up around cars moving at 15 miles an hour, Why would I ever take them seriously as a threat?
01:47:37.000 You know? 0.97
01:47:38.000 Like, we need respect for these things because these things are fucking dangerous. 1.00
01:47:42.000 Fuck yeah, that's totally true. 0.99
01:47:43.000 So we need to learn to be careful about it. 1.00
01:47:45.000 It's all about education. 0.99
01:47:46.000 Yes, I agree with you, but to play devil's advocate, there's too many dumb cunts out there that need a sign that gives them an unreasonable speed limit. 0.99
01:47:54.000 It's just they slow the fuck down when they're around schools. 0.99
01:47:56.000 Like our friends that we're talking about speeding and texting, you can't have a 60 mile an hour speed limit in front of a school It's all driving, okay? 0.97
01:48:03.000 Because someone's little kid's going flying over the hood.
01:48:05.000 I wouldn't want it to be little Dan Hardy.
01:48:07.000 Well, no, and it's an awful thing, but... 0.99
01:48:10.000 Fifteen miles an hour is smart, because kids also are stupid, and they tend to jump into traffic, and they, you know, I lost my piece of paper! 1.00
01:48:17.000 Shit, man! 1.00
01:48:18.000 I need to fucking pass this class! 1.00
01:48:20.000 And they run out into the street, and boom! 0.99
01:48:23.000 You've got to be able to hit that brake! 1.00
01:48:24.000 You fuck! 1.00
01:48:25.000 Hey, man! 1.00
01:48:26.000 Fuck you! 1.00
01:48:27.000 Fuck you, old man! 1.00
01:48:28.000 But I don't ever remember anybody getting hit by a car outside of school when I was a kid. 1.00
01:48:33.000 And we had a 40 mile an hour zone outside of my school.
01:48:37.000 I'm sure.
01:48:37.000 I did see a woman get hit by a truck, though.
01:48:39.000 Ooh, Jesus.
01:48:40.000 She had her groceries on the handlebar.
01:48:42.000 Oh, my God.
01:48:43.000 How bad was that?
01:48:44.000 Bad.
01:48:44.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:48:46.000 Yeah, bad.
01:48:47.000 Oof. 0.99
01:48:48.000 Fucking A, man. 1.00
01:48:49.000 I don't want to see that. 0.99
01:48:50.000 But I have.
01:48:51.000 That's the problem with the internet.
01:48:53.000 I've seen everything.
01:48:53.000 At this point, you've seen so much.
01:48:55.000 Have you watched the video of the monk setting himself on fire?
01:48:58.000 Yes.
01:48:59.000 I spent a day watching that over and over again.
01:49:01.000 The one from Vietnam? 0.96
01:49:02.000 Yeah.
01:49:02.000 How do you prepare yourself for that?
01:49:04.000 He didn't even fucking move. 0.98
01:49:06.000 He never panicked. 0.99
01:49:08.000 He stayed in the lotus position until his body just came out.
01:49:10.000 Do you think you've taken something to numb it?
01:49:12.000 No.
01:49:12.000 I do not believe so.
01:49:13.000 I mean, if you're going to light yourself on fire, what fucking difference does it make of how you're doing it? 0.99
01:49:18.000 Just light yourself on fire, dude. 0.99
01:49:19.000 It's going to get kind of warm into it.
01:49:20.000 Did you see the bear eat the monkey?
01:49:23.000 No.
01:49:24.000 In Hong Kong?
01:49:25.000 Or Taiwan, maybe?
01:49:26.000 I forget.
01:49:27.000 Somewhere in Singapore? 0.98
01:49:28.000 I'm just making shit up now. 1.00
01:49:30.000 I don't know what the fuck had happened. 0.99
01:49:31.000 In some Asian country, there was a... 0.99
01:49:35.000 Carnival show where a bear was on a bicycle.
01:49:38.000 See, we pull it up, Jamie.
01:49:39.000 There's a bear on a bicycle.
01:49:41.000 Of course.
01:49:41.000 And a monkey on a bicycle.
01:49:43.000 And they're going around this ring, and this is it. 0.99
01:49:45.000 Pull it way up into the half of it, into it, before the bear loses his shit. 0.99
01:49:51.000 Yeah, right before there. 0.99
01:49:52.000 So the monkey crap, pull it back, pull it back, pull it back, pull it back, pull it back. 0.97
01:49:57.000 The monkey crashes a bike and the bear crashes into the monkey's bike when it's on the ground and just decides to eat the monkey. 0.98
01:50:05.000 It's like, you know what? 1.00
01:50:07.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:50:08.000 So watch this. 1.00
01:50:08.000 Boom. 1.00
01:50:09.000 The monkey crashes.
01:50:10.000 The bear crashes on him.
01:50:11.000 It's like, you know what?
01:50:12.000 I think I'm just going to eat you. 1.00
01:50:14.000 And just fucking mauls that monkey. 1.00
01:50:16.000 And they're all grabbing him and pulling the monkey away. 1.00
01:50:19.000 And look at this. 0.99
01:50:21.000 That monkey is fucksville, son. 0.99
01:50:23.000 That bear is just going off on that monkey. 1.00
01:50:26.000 He's like, you stupid bitch. 1.00
01:50:27.000 You dropped your fucking bike. 1.00
01:50:29.000 That's it. 1.00
01:50:29.000 I've been thinking about eating you for months. 1.00
01:50:35.000 I bet his instincts were when something goes down in front of you, you just start eating it.
01:50:39.000 I think that's like bear 101, right? 0.99
01:50:43.000 If you're a bear and some shit trips in front of you like that, you just start eating. 0.99
01:50:47.000 You got a gift from the gods. 1.00
01:50:49.000 How could you not do that?
01:50:51.000 Why would you not? 1.00
01:50:52.000 You don't train bears, stupid. 1.00
01:50:54.000 You think you train bears. 1.00
01:50:55.000 You train for a little bit.
01:50:56.000 We got him to ride a bike.
01:50:57.000 And while he's riding that bike, he's going, I want to eat that monkey. 1.00
01:51:01.000 God damn, I want to eat that monkey. 1.00
01:51:04.000 Not many times you can use that sentence. 1.00
01:51:06.000 Yeah, unless you're Joey Diaz.
01:51:07.000 I think you use it all day. 1.00
01:51:10.000 Eat that monkey cocksucker. 1.00
01:51:12.000 So you had all these experiences. 0.99
01:51:16.000 Did it make you look at fighting any differently?
01:51:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:51:23.000 This is going to sound kind of odd, because I carried on fighting after the experience, but I kind of saw the futility in it, the pointlessness in it, you know?
01:51:31.000 I mean, there's a British comedy that kind of captures it really well.
01:51:36.000 They do like a parody of a soccer commercial.
01:51:39.000 And they're like, you know, talking about Manchester United and Arsenal and they'll win and they'll see who wins now and then next year it'll carry on just the same and there'll be more guys that win.
01:51:48.000 You know what I mean?
01:51:49.000 It's the same thing.
01:51:49.000 Like, I could be the champion for 10 years, but once that 11th year comes, there's going to be somebody else that's a champion and it will just continue on forever.
01:51:56.000 And it's the absolute core of the capitalist approach to life is to actually beat someone down to take food out of their mouth.
01:52:06.000 Which is really kind of odd, and I've never seen it like that before.
01:52:09.000 Normally it's like, yeah, I'm going to beat the hell out of that guy.
01:52:11.000 I'm going to take what he's got.
01:52:13.000 But now I'm kind of...
01:52:15.000 I like the competition.
01:52:19.000 I like the actual physical test of fighting, but not for the same reasons.
01:52:24.000 Not to be more successful and to...
01:52:28.000 Can you continue with the same passion, having different ideas of what's important about fighting?
01:52:34.000 Yeah, because, well, the one thing that I was really starting to focus on with the EMEA fight since I went to Peru, with the EMEA fight, and going into the brown fight as well, and this is the reason why I would at least like the option to carry on fighting.
01:52:49.000 I would like to be able to get cleared so I can I don't think I'll go back to fighting three times a year and chasing the belt because my focus is elsewhere now.
01:52:59.000 Where's your focus?
01:53:01.000 Well, there's a space that you get to when...
01:53:03.000 Do you read much Carl Sagan?
01:53:05.000 I have.
01:53:05.000 Dragons of Eden?
01:53:06.000 No, I haven't.
01:53:07.000 About the tree and brain.
01:53:09.000 I'm trying to understand the distinction between the different areas of the brain.
01:53:13.000 The reptilian brain, which is obviously responsible for all the aggressiveness, the instinctual stuff, the fighting and killing and all that kind of...
01:53:23.000 That's the reptilian brain, the political side of us, basically.
01:53:27.000 And then after that, then you've got like the old mammalian brain, which is where we start to make kind of like basic connections with people and understand that if we work as a group, we can survive better.
01:53:36.000 And then the next level up is obviously a higher consciousness, is having deeper understanding, deeper relationships and communications with people around you.
01:53:45.000 But there's a point when you fight where the reptilian brain takes over.
01:53:50.000 And I usually feel it after I've been cracked a couple of times.
01:53:52.000 Like when I was fighting Ludwig at the MGM, I was very conscious for the first 30 seconds or so of the fight.
01:54:00.000 And then as I stepped in, you remember he cracked me with that right hand right on the chin, and I rushed him up against the fence.
01:54:06.000 And immediately I switched over to instinct, and it's like being a passenger.
01:54:12.000 It's like I have no conscious decision-making ability in that time.
01:54:18.000 It's all instinct.
01:54:19.000 I'm not focused at all on what he's doing.
01:54:22.000 I'm just reading.
01:54:24.000 I'm just feeling.
01:54:24.000 And I want to see if I can get to that place for a longer period of time.
01:54:30.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:54:31.000 With the Amir fight, I felt like I would slip in and out of it.
01:54:34.000 The first round, it was so overwhelming because it was hometown.
01:54:38.000 My name was being shouted by 8,000 people or something.
01:54:44.000 I live next to the arena, so it occurred to me that if I lost, that would be on my mind every time I looked out of my window.
01:54:51.000 So the first round, I lost it.
01:54:53.000 I mean, I just kind of moved around and backed up.
01:54:55.000 And when I sat down in my corner after the first round, I apologized to my team.
01:54:59.000 I said, I'm sorry, I just had to get that out of the way.
01:55:01.000 But then the second and third round, I felt like I could reach that stage sometime where I just kind of allow my body to take over and just switch off and effectively just watch.
01:55:09.000 Do you think that's what Anderson's doing?
01:55:11.000 I think that's exactly what he's doing, yeah.
01:55:13.000 But I don't know as he's aware of himself doing it.
01:55:17.000 Do you know what I mean?
01:55:18.000 He's just so good.
01:55:19.000 That's how he locks in.
01:55:20.000 Yeah.
01:55:20.000 I just think when the fight starts, he immediately switches over.
01:55:23.000 But you can see it in people's eyes.
01:55:25.000 Like, Vanderlei's a great example.
01:55:26.000 If you watch one of Vanderlei's highlight reels where he's got a few of his stare-downs, he immediately switches to reptile mode as soon as he's fighting.
01:55:32.000 That's a great way of putting it with him, too.
01:55:34.000 It's true.
01:55:35.000 And, like, Mannhoff is another one.
01:55:37.000 Those guys that have just got that, like, instinctual rage, it just kind of comes on.
01:55:43.000 And this is why, like, you know, I've always kind of heard the term, you know, you...
01:55:47.000 You maintain 20% of the things that you learn in the gym in the actual fight.
01:55:51.000 When adrenaline and the actual fight is occurring, you only keep that 20% of what you've learned in the gym.
01:56:00.000 The idea is, being in the gym, you train yourself to the point where it does become instinct, and then when the fight happens, you just switch to reptile mode, and reptile mode uses the skills that you learn to get the job done more efficiently.
01:56:13.000 Do you think that becoming more aware or reaching a higher state of consciousness because of your experiences will actually help you because it'll abandon a lot of the distractions that you present yourself almost unknowingly?
01:56:26.000 Yeah, well, it helps me in training and particularly when I'm running now because I used to listen to like Pantera and...
01:56:33.000 And yeah, like vision of disorder when I was running.
01:56:36.000 And I'd worked myself into like a rage so I wouldn't run to exhaustion.
01:56:40.000 That was kind of how I trained.
01:56:41.000 And I trained all the way through my career like that.
01:56:43.000 And the last couple of fights I've switched it up, I've been listening to a lot more like binaural beat type of stuff when I'm running.
01:56:48.000 So I can get into more like a meditative stage, you know.
01:56:52.000 Doing a lot of yoga as well and trying to find the same thing where you're within yourself and you're not focusing on anything else.
01:56:59.000 So your body's almost like on autopilot.
01:57:03.000 Yeah, the music that you listen to when you train can have a profound effect on how you approach your training.
01:57:10.000 Yeah, it really can.
01:57:11.000 It's so important and that's why I've always been so vocal about all the stuff I listen to.
01:57:15.000 I had a training camp playlist so I'd tweet everyday songs I was listening to and that kind of thing.
01:57:20.000 It is important.
01:57:21.000 And the other thing as well, like, earlier on in my career, I would use music to anchor feelings.
01:57:26.000 So, like, when I fought Ludwig, I used a song called Iron by Woodkid, which was the first time I'd switched it up from England Belongs to Me for, like, you know, a bunch of fights.
01:57:37.000 So, like, for the 12 weeks of that fight, I was training with Frank Mir.
01:57:40.000 We were going up to Mount Charleston and out into Red Rock and, like, doing hill running and stuff.
01:57:45.000 And we had some real tough sessions.
01:57:46.000 I mean, you know, we really put ourselves through it for that training camp.
01:57:49.000 And as soon as I got back in my truck after the session, if I felt like it was a good session, it was productive and I felt positive, I would put that song on.
01:57:57.000 So I would constantly connect those feelings to that song.
01:58:01.000 So then when I'm walking out and that song comes on, immediately I get that feeling again.
01:58:06.000 Huh.
01:58:06.000 And it's just like when you listen to a song and you think of a person.
01:58:10.000 Like, oh, I heard that song and I was with that person.
01:58:12.000 And you make that connection immediately.
01:58:14.000 But you can also train yourself to do it.
01:58:17.000 I listen to Cypress Hill now and it will take me back to fighting in Cage Warriors back in 2006. Wow.
01:58:25.000 And I have songs all the way through that now I don't listen to.
01:58:29.000 My first two fights, I came out to Pantera, dragged the waters.
01:58:33.000 By the time I got to the cage, I was so wound up and so angry that I just ran out of gas immediately.
01:58:41.000 You know what I mean?
01:58:42.000 And now whenever I listen to those songs, I get that feeling of exhaustion.
01:58:47.000 That's hilarious.
01:58:48.000 Yeah.
01:58:50.000 People have sex songs that remind them of sex. 0.84
01:58:53.000 Songs that remind you of disappointment.
01:58:55.000 Songs that remind you of ex-girlfriends.
01:58:56.000 Why did you connect sex to disappointment?
01:58:59.000 It's just standard, isn't it?
01:59:01.000 Isn't that how it goes?
01:59:02.000 Most of the time we're disappointed. 0.98
01:59:02.000 Sex songs like something crazy from the spin doctor. 0.98
01:59:07.000 So, what's next from here?
01:59:10.000 If your focus has moved slightly off of fighting and you still are interested in fighting and you're still interested in seeing what sort of state you can achieve inside the Octagon, what else are you going to do with your time?
01:59:22.000 Well, I've been having a lot of ideas.
01:59:26.000 I've had a few ceremonies recently with various things and I've I've got quite a clear direction of where I want to go.
01:59:33.000 I want to get clear to fight.
01:59:35.000 I would like to be able to fight again.
01:59:36.000 Even if it's just once a year, once every 18 months or something.
01:59:40.000 And just have a fight with someone that's going to be a fun fight where I can kind of test some of these theories and see where I'm at physically.
01:59:47.000 But I'm going to start video blogging my training sessions because I do all kinds of stuff.
01:59:54.000 I do a lot of bickham yoga, a lot of hot yoga, trail running, Kettlebell sessions.
02:00:00.000 And then I want to be able to go into the gym and work on specific things.
02:00:04.000 Like last night I went into 10th Planet Van Nuys and just kind of had a roll around with those guys.
02:00:10.000 And I enjoyed it because it was very, very playful.
02:00:13.000 There was no agenda.
02:00:14.000 I had no agenda because I was in the moment.
02:00:17.000 You're just learning in the moment.
02:00:18.000 Exactly.
02:00:19.000 And obviously when you've got a training camp, I always felt like I was wishing my life away because I'm constantly waiting for a date that's five, six weeks ahead.
02:00:28.000 So I'm never in the moment.
02:00:30.000 I'm always in the moment that's to come.
02:00:33.000 George was talking about how much he enjoys training in between fights because then he just will go box for like six weeks or eight weeks, just only boxing, concentrate only on that.
02:00:44.000 Then he'll do jiu-jitsu in New York.
02:00:46.000 He'll go there with Donaher and train with him for six weeks, whatever he wants.
02:00:51.000 I just want to do that.
02:00:52.000 I'm going to take a trip out to Southeast Asia and do a little tour of Thailand.
02:00:57.000 Are you going to become a shaman, Dan Hardy?
02:00:59.000 I don't know.
02:01:00.000 I feel like you are on that path.
02:01:01.000 I'm moving in an interesting direction.
02:01:03.000 But I want to start kind of promoting more of an alternative lifestyle of what I'm doing, what with my diet and my teacher plants, medicines and And my approach to training and health, you know.
02:01:18.000 I'm really, really focused on getting strong and flexible right now.
02:01:21.000 That's my main focus.
02:01:23.000 Through, you know, kettlebells and bodyweight exercises and lots of stretching.
02:01:28.000 And I'm just kind of interested to see where this journey is going to go.
02:01:32.000 My goal is to basically get paid to be myself.
02:01:36.000 That's what I want to do.
02:01:37.000 And to improve yourself.
02:01:38.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:01:40.000 I have sponsors right now that are supportive.
02:01:45.000 Obviously, what with Zions and Fear the Fighter and Venom.
02:01:49.000 I want them to continue to support me while I'm on this quest and doing all this kind of...
02:01:55.000 Interesting stuff.
02:01:56.000 So I figured if I put a video blog out there for people to watch, it gives them a bit more of a connection.
02:02:02.000 Wolfcam, I think I'm going to call it Wolfcam.
02:02:03.000 Yeah, it's called the Wolfcam. 1.00
02:02:04.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:02:08.000 That's pretty good. 1.00
02:02:09.000 So I think that's what I'm going to do.
02:02:12.000 I have some other ideas as well.
02:02:15.000 I have a few people to speak to about some business ideas that I have.
02:02:19.000 Again, all within the same direction.
02:02:20.000 If it's illegal, don't admit it on this podcast.
02:02:22.000 It's most definitely not illegal.
02:02:23.000 Okay, good.
02:02:25.000 At least not in Peru.
02:02:27.000 No, like try and help promote a more clean and conscious lifestyle.
02:02:34.000 So what is your diet now?
02:02:36.000 I'm predominantly vegan now. 1.00
02:02:37.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00
02:02:39.000 I thought we'd get into this. 1.00
02:02:40.000 I heard this come up a couple of times. 1.00
02:02:41.000 You went dark on me, son of a bitch. 1.00
02:02:43.000 I'm not giving it a name because it's not really got a name. 1.00
02:02:48.000 I'm just kind of...
02:02:49.000 My approach to animal products are I will...
02:02:52.000 I will have animal products occasionally if I know that it's from a source that I'm comfortable with.
02:02:59.000 Like hunted meat or free-range chicken or something like that?
02:03:01.000 Exactly.
02:03:02.000 I will eat fish all day long because fish don't even take care of the babies. 0.99
02:03:08.000 That's my logic on fish. 0.94
02:03:10.000 Anybody who doesn't eat fish is crazy.
02:03:12.000 But what about from a selfish point of view if you don't know where the fish is from?
02:03:16.000 Like if you went out to a restaurant and it was just...
02:03:17.000 Farm-raised is not good.
02:03:19.000 A lot of farm-raised stuff is not good.
02:03:22.000 Because, first of all, a lot of times they're exposed to higher levels of mercury, apparently, or higher levels of toxins.
02:03:29.000 Because if you're in, like, these tanks of water or farms of all fish shit on each other, it's just...
02:03:36.000 It's not a healthy environment.
02:03:37.000 It doesn't taste as good.
02:03:39.000 I mean, it's better than not eating it.
02:03:41.000 I mean, it's not that bad, but I think that it's been proven that when you see like red, deep red salmon, and then you see like the salmon that you get, like this farm-raised salmon where they have to dye it pink, it's been proven that that wild stuff tastes better.
02:03:56.000 There's something better about it.
02:03:58.000 It's probably better for you.
02:03:59.000 I don't know if it's better for you, but it's probably better for you.
02:04:02.000 I tweeted something the other day.
02:04:04.000 I was in a store in Boise, Idaho.
02:04:07.000 And it was a photograph of the ingredients of a bottle of soda and one of the ingredients was artificial wild cherries.
02:04:21.000 That's hilarious.
02:04:23.000 Welcome to America.
02:04:24.000 Monsanto probably owns the patent on artificial wild cherries.
02:04:27.000 So we were talking about this, and I got into my theory of stoner language, stoner understandings of the world.
02:04:33.000 Things that you see if you smoke weed that other people that smoke weed don't.
02:04:37.000 And that's that kind of thing.
02:04:40.000 Artificial wild cherries.
02:04:41.000 Wow.
02:04:42.000 You tweeted that?
02:04:43.000 Yeah.
02:04:44.000 That's hilarious.
02:04:45.000 It is really funny.
02:04:46.000 People that don't...
02:04:50.000 People who use plants in various ways don't see these things.
02:04:53.000 They don't pick up on these things.
02:04:54.000 Sometimes they do.
02:04:55.000 Artificial wild cherries.
02:04:56.000 People can.
02:04:57.000 I'm not a 100% proponent of all people using marijuana because I know some people who can't.
02:05:03.000 Well, yeah.
02:05:04.000 I know they can't.
02:05:05.000 But you know when you hear somebody say something like that, you're like, yeah, that guy's a stoner.
02:05:08.000 Yeah, there's certain things that people say where you automatically know this guy gets high.
02:05:13.000 But I have friends that seem like they get high and they don't get high.
02:05:16.000 Like Stanhope.
02:05:17.000 Doug Stanhope totally seems like he would get high, but he doesn't get high.
02:05:21.000 He doesn't like it.
02:05:22.000 This doesn't make him feel paranoid.
02:05:23.000 He doesn't like it at all.
02:05:24.000 Maybe some people are just naturally inclined to be like that.
02:05:27.000 I couldn't tell.
02:05:29.000 I feel like it's obvious when you look at terrible people that someone's brain works different than your brain or my brain.
02:05:37.000 When you see a guy like Gandhi, for sure his brain worked different than my brain.
02:05:43.000 There's just no doubt about it.
02:05:44.000 He also had his own path and he also had his own intentions and his own life.
02:05:48.000 But I just can't imagine that his interpretation of life was the same as my interpretation of life. 0.97
02:05:54.000 And if that's the case, how the fuck do I know what pot does to you? 0.99
02:05:58.000 How the fuck would I know? 0.99
02:06:01.000 I know people can't smoke it. 0.99
02:06:03.000 They smoke it and then they'll wake up three days later with their pants off in the jungle.
02:06:07.000 Sounds like a good weekend.
02:06:09.000 Maybe.
02:06:11.000 Unless one of those wandering spiders. 0.99
02:06:13.000 Gets you and gives you a heart on until you die.
02:06:15.000 I spent two weeks walking around the jungle in my underwear. 0.99
02:06:17.000 How dare you, sir?
02:06:18.000 Did you get nervous?
02:06:20.000 No.
02:06:20.000 Nothing biting you?
02:06:21.000 Nothing.
02:06:22.000 Did you feel like you had the secret on your side and you were putting out the positive vibes?
02:06:24.000 I felt like I was very connected to it all.
02:06:26.000 Like I wasn't going to mess with anything and they weren't going to mess with me.
02:06:29.000 It was, yeah.
02:06:30.000 Did you see jaguars in your ayahuasca trip?
02:06:32.000 I didn't.
02:06:32.000 I could hear it.
02:06:33.000 No.
02:06:33.000 We could hear them, though, yeah.
02:06:34.000 Because the jungle was literally outside of the...
02:06:36.000 Oh, dude.
02:06:37.000 Wait a minute.
02:06:37.000 So you're on ayahuasca and you hear jaguars?
02:06:40.000 Uh-huh.
02:06:41.000 Jesus!
02:06:42.000 Yeah.
02:06:42.000 What are you hearing?
02:06:43.000 What are you hearing?
02:06:44.000 You could just hear them fighting occasionally.
02:06:46.000 Yeah, just coming into contact occasionally with each other.
02:06:48.000 Come on. 0.99
02:06:49.000 Does that make you shit your pants? 0.97
02:06:51.000 Not as much as the plane going over. 0.96
02:06:53.000 That was really scary.
02:06:54.000 Oh, the little...
02:06:55.000 Yeah.
02:06:56.000 No, we were on flight paths for Iquitos, which is like the nearest airport, and like at 8.30 every night, so like 30 minutes into the ceremony.
02:07:04.000 Like we were in...
02:07:05.000 It's called the Malacca, the ceremonial building.
02:07:07.000 It was like a big circular wooden building.
02:07:09.000 And it's got net up to like, you know...
02:07:13.000 A net a meter high off the floor, so you're in the jungle pretty much.
02:07:17.000 There's not much separating you.
02:07:19.000 And there's all kinds of noises and crazy stuff going on.
02:07:22.000 And it kind of becomes comfortable after a while.
02:07:24.000 The bugs are really loud, right?
02:07:26.000 Yeah, they are.
02:07:26.000 And the frogs as well.
02:07:27.000 But the plane was such an alien kind of sound, because we only heard it a couple of times a day.
02:07:33.000 And the last time we heard it was 8.30 at night, just after we'd had the dose of ayahuasca and it started to come on.
02:07:39.000 The next thing I can hear is over my head.
02:07:43.000 And I can feel everybody else's consciousness on that plane.
02:07:46.000 I know there are like 250 people up there and I'm feeling all of that kind of energy go over.
02:07:52.000 It was really weird.
02:07:53.000 And it happened every night, every ceremony.
02:07:56.000 And those third world plane flights, them's a little different side.
02:08:00.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:08:01.000 Chickens in the back tied down with fucking duct tape. 1.00
02:08:05.000 You saw that plane crash that happened last week? 1.00
02:08:07.000 That freaked me out.
02:08:08.000 Did you see that from Afghanistan?
02:08:10.000 It was a cargo plane, and they think that the cargo shifted, the load shifted, like it wasn't tied down properly.
02:08:17.000 And when that happens, if the load shifts, the plane just immediately, all the weight goes to the front or the back of the plane, and it just nosedived.
02:08:23.000 Wow.
02:08:24.000 Ooh.
02:08:24.000 Yeah.
02:08:25.000 It's pretty fucked up. 0.99
02:08:26.000 We'll end on that for a nice, beautiful, cheery way to end. 0.99
02:08:31.000 Just to let everybody know that you could defy gravity for short periods of time every now and again, but if you fuck up, or it fucks up, or there's mechanical failure, or... 0.99
02:08:47.000 Jesus Christ, imagine watching that. 0.99
02:08:49.000 Wow.
02:08:54.000 Imagine being on that bus driving past it.
02:08:56.000 Oh my god, that bus almost got hit by a plane that fell from the sky.
02:09:01.000 It's like a scene off Final Destination 16 or something.
02:09:06.000 One day when we have magnetic UFO looking things that can't even run into each other because they have magnets on the outside so they go like this when they bounce off each other.
02:09:17.000 We'll look at point crashes.
02:09:19.000 I think they're probably already on it.
02:09:20.000 You think?
02:09:22.000 They always talk about whenever serious physicists discuss the possibility of space travel, like interstellar space travel, like Stanton Friedman, like how could aliens be doing it?
02:09:34.000 One of the things they always concentrate on is some sort of magnetic drive.
02:09:37.000 The guy, Dr. Robert Lazar, he's an often criticized gentleman who claimed to work at Area 51. Whether or not that guy told the truth, I don't know.
02:09:51.000 But he described some sort of back engineering that they were doing at Area 51, and it was some sort of magnetic drive.
02:09:57.000 The idea is that you figure out how to use magnets or something to overcome gravity and to create a little hole in space and time and just fly around through that. 0.86
02:10:09.000 Whatever the fuck I even said, Dan Hardy, I don't even understand. 0.98
02:10:12.000 It shouldn't be legal for me to say what I just said, because I don't even know what the fuck it means. 0.99
02:10:18.000 Wow. 0.98
02:10:18.000 I got really into aliens when I was younger. 0.98
02:10:20.000 When I was in my teens, it was like everything was aliens.
02:10:22.000 I really hope I get to experience some kind of...
02:10:25.000 Contact before I die.
02:10:27.000 Did you see this latest disclosure, these five days of disclosure hearings on Capitol Hill?
02:10:32.000 No.
02:10:33.000 Dude.
02:10:34.000 Dude. 1.00
02:10:34.000 Crazy shit. 1.00
02:10:35.000 Really? 1.00
02:10:35.000 All these different, you know, the real problem with any sort of UFO thing is that it looks silly. 1.00
02:10:42.000 It looks silly. 0.99
02:10:43.000 You saying you saw a UFO makes you a silly person. 1.00
02:10:46.000 More silly even than ayahuasca. 0.99
02:10:48.000 Because at least ayahuasca has a great body of Evidence to support what's going on neurochemically. 0.99
02:10:54.000 Saying that you saw a UFO immediately become a silly person.
02:10:57.000 All these like former military people, all these people that were air traffic controllers, pilots, all these people report these unbelievably unique experiences. 0.59
02:11:08.000 I don't know if they're telling the truth or not, but if they were telling the truth, if just one of these things happened every now and again, of course it would seem ridiculous to us on the outside.
02:11:18.000 The people sitting down here, it's natural to criticize it and make fun of it and laugh at it because it is kind of crazy to think that. 0.97
02:11:25.000 But if just one of those is true, if just one of those are a real craft from another dimension, from another planet, If you don't think that that's possible, you're silly.
02:11:36.000 If you don't think that within, from here, in every direction, infinite space, what does that even mean? 0.96
02:11:43.000 We don't even know what the fuck that means, right? 0.90
02:11:45.000 I can't even comprehend that. 0.84
02:11:46.000 There's gotta be something out there that's further than us.
02:11:48.000 I think it's ignorant to think that there's not. 0.97
02:11:50.000 If we survive, if we, little pesky humans, figure out how to keep going for another couple million years, who knows what the fuck we're gonna figure out. 0.98
02:11:58.000 To think that somebody else can't be out there. 0.92
02:12:00.000 And what would we do if someone was out there?
02:12:02.000 We would go check them out.
02:12:03.000 Yeah, of course. 1.00
02:12:04.000 Fuck yeah, we'd check them out. 1.00
02:12:06.000 We'd go to the Congo. 1.00
02:12:08.000 We go to the Congo and we check out tribes.
02:12:09.000 We check out tribes of fishermen. 0.99
02:12:11.000 They're hanging off fucking trees, picking up fish with nets. 0.99
02:12:13.000 We go watch them. 0.98
02:12:15.000 What do you think about the theory of the interaction with our history and how they've helped guide us?
02:12:22.000 It's all speculation.
02:12:23.000 It's complete speculation.
02:12:25.000 Because you don't know whether or not you look at ancient drawings.
02:12:28.000 You don't know what's fantasy.
02:12:29.000 You don't know what's a story. 0.99
02:12:30.000 You don't know what's their version of fucking The Hobbit. 0.99
02:12:35.000 They might make up stories. 0.99
02:12:37.000 Who knows?
02:12:38.000 It could be their version of Twilight.
02:12:40.000 That's when you look at aliens in the wall.
02:12:43.000 It's their version. 1.00
02:12:43.000 Like they told a stupid story to make everybody go to sleep. 1.00
02:12:46.000 Who knows? 1.00
02:12:47.000 We know that it's art.
02:12:49.000 We've seen in their art these depictions that closely resemble what we would think to be alien spacecrafts or alien beings. 0.99
02:12:55.000 But we don't really know what the fuck it is. 0.96
02:12:57.000 It's not that much evidence. 0.97
02:12:58.000 It's a small amount of evidence.
02:13:00.000 There's a few cool videos.
02:13:01.000 They're like, hmm, what is that? 0.95
02:13:03.000 I don't know what the fuck that is. 0.98
02:13:03.000 I don't even know if it's real. 0.98
02:13:05.000 It's hard to tell. 0.99
02:13:06.000 But if it happened to you, man, you'd fucking know. 0.98
02:13:08.000 And that's what you can't discount. 0.96
02:13:10.000 You can't discount the possibility of unique experience.
02:13:14.000 But once you've had a DMT trip, aliens seem like so passe.
02:13:20.000 It's just kind of matter of fact, I think.
02:13:22.000 It's kind of like, well, yeah, of course.
02:13:23.000 Well, not only that, it's like to have that experience, like a ship lands and they get out, it would be so less bizarre because it's all taking place right here.
02:13:33.000 You can see it.
02:13:34.000 It's external.
02:13:34.000 What's taking place also in the dimension that we're comfortable with, where we can walk on the grass and feel the grass, where we step on rocks, we feel the rocks under our shoe, your car is parked over there, you see the clouds above you, and then everything is basically normal except this new introduced element into your environment that you have to not accept.
02:13:52.000 Fucking little dude from another planet. 0.99
02:13:54.000 Holy shit, this really is true. 1.00
02:13:56.000 That's nothing compared to a DMT trip. 0.98
02:13:58.000 Because a DMT trip, the dimension that you exist in becomes of vibrant, glowing colors with no background and constantly changing geometric patterns that are fractal and infinite.
02:14:10.000 That's way crazier than an alien landing.
02:14:12.000 But the thing is, we're in an environment now where, particularly with the internet, We've effectively seen most things.
02:14:19.000 I remember when I was in China and I was walking down the street with a friend of mine who was a 230-pound ripped black dude.
02:14:26.000 And these Chinese dudes were just in awe.
02:14:29.000 They just stood and watched him as he walked down the street.
02:14:32.000 Like the Green Mile.
02:14:34.000 Exactly.
02:14:34.000 And then think back to, I don't know.
02:14:39.000 You know, when the Romans were fighting different tribes and they were taking elephants with them, like when they took elephants to Britannia.
02:14:45.000 There's a tube station in London called Elephant and Castle, which was, you know, this elephant crossing this plane with this dude sitting on top riding it. 0.98
02:14:56.000 The barbarians that were living there at the time just lost their shit and ran away. 0.98
02:14:59.000 Like, why wouldn't you? 0.99
02:15:00.000 You know what I mean?
02:15:01.000 Yeah.
02:15:01.000 But we don't have those experiences anymore because we've seen everything or, you know, we might see something that's a new species, but it's only a variation of something that's already familiar to us.
02:15:10.000 Right.
02:15:10.000 Like, imagine seeing an elephant for the first time if you've lived in, like...
02:15:14.000 I don't know, England.
02:15:15.000 Yeah.
02:15:15.000 Jesus Christ.
02:15:16.000 It would blow your mind.
02:15:17.000 When did they know that elephants existed?
02:15:19.000 When was it first documented?
02:15:20.000 I don't know.
02:15:21.000 By Western world. 0.99
02:15:22.000 Obviously, Africans would be listening to this going, Bitch, we've known about elephants for 70,000 years! 1.00
02:15:29.000 When did you figure out elephants? 0.99
02:15:32.000 They were like, Oh, when did the civilized folk learn of the larger animals on the plains?
02:15:40.000 You know, when did they discover?
02:15:41.000 When did people discover elephants?
02:15:42.000 Oh, it wasn't until 1900. Once white people got down there. 0.75
02:15:46.000 Proper people.
02:15:48.000 Imagine when the explorers first saw a giraffe.
02:15:51.000 Yeah.
02:15:51.000 How much would that blow your mind?
02:15:53.000 Well, I guess we grew up with them though, didn't we?
02:15:55.000 I mean, if you believe that human life emanated from the lower hominids that existed in Africa and came down from the rainforest into the grasslands, we would have probably been around them. 0.99
02:16:04.000 But would they still not seem unfamiliar?
02:16:08.000 Alien as well.
02:16:09.000 If you were from Mongolia.
02:16:11.000 Oh yeah, then it'd be alien as well.
02:16:12.000 If you came over from... 0.99
02:16:13.000 I mean, essentially if you go anywhere where you haven't been there before and they have some new shit, you're like, what are you doing with fucking kangaroos everywhere? 1.00
02:16:21.000 What the fuck? 0.99
02:16:22.000 I have a friend named Eddie Ift. 1.00
02:16:24.000 He's a stand-up comic.
02:16:25.000 And he's done very well in Australia.
02:16:27.000 And he goes over there quite a bit.
02:16:29.000 And one of the things he told me was that he first encountered a kangaroo.
02:16:33.000 Kangaroos have killed people, like, many times. 1.00
02:16:35.000 Like, they will fucking rip you apart. 1.00
02:16:37.000 And he didn't know how big they got. 0.99
02:16:40.000 There's two kangaroos, like, a red one and a gray one, I guess.
02:16:42.000 One of them is giant.
02:16:43.000 One of them is, like, nine feet tall.
02:16:45.000 And he was out in this guy's yard, and he saw this kangaroo, and he thought it was a statue, because it was too big.
02:16:50.000 He started walking towards it, because it was nine feet tall.
02:16:54.000 And he was like, well, that's not really a kangaroo.
02:16:57.000 A kangaroo isn't that tall.
02:16:58.000 And his friends go, stop!
02:16:59.000 Walking and turn around now! 1.00
02:17:02.000 Get the fuck away from that thing! 1.00
02:17:04.000 And Tangaroo like looks at him and all of a sudden he realizes, oh Jesus, this is a nine foot squirrel that's about to fuck me up. 1.00
02:17:11.000 Yeah, that's a scary thought. 0.99
02:17:13.000 It's a nine-foot jumping squirrel that will kick your guts out. 0.62
02:17:17.000 Yikes! 1.00
02:17:18.000 But the thing is, my point still stands out.
02:17:20.000 He's still seen what a kangaroo looks like, even if he's not expecting a nine-foot one.
02:17:25.000 Right.
02:17:26.000 Even if a velociraptor showed up right now in this room.
02:17:30.000 We've seen it.
02:17:30.000 We've kind of seen it.
02:17:31.000 We kind of know what they look like.
02:17:32.000 There's no surprises.
02:17:33.000 But an alien landing, that's still kind of a shock to the system.
02:17:38.000 But then again, on top of that, the DMT realm is...
02:17:41.000 Completely removed altogether.
02:17:43.000 Yeah, and aliens, the problem I always have with aliens is they look so much like us in the future.
02:17:47.000 Yeah.
02:17:48.000 I always wonder whether or not, I mean, the grand theory is the simulation theory, that we're living inside some sort of artificial reality, and that the aliens really are us, and that's why we have this weird image of that being us in the future.
02:18:01.000 We're already there, and we didn't like it. 0.88
02:18:03.000 It sucks. 0.99
02:18:03.000 It's boring. 0.99
02:18:04.000 We sort of evolved the fun out of life, so we've created this crazy simulation that we all exist in.
02:18:12.000 That's the grand theory.
02:18:13.000 That's the grand theory involving the aliens, for me at least.
02:18:16.000 Okay.
02:18:17.000 That's why they look like us.
02:18:18.000 And that's why they have big black things for their eyes. 0.99
02:18:21.000 We fuck the environment so hard that you have to have sunglasses everywhere. 0.98
02:18:25.000 Everywhere you go, you have to have built-in sunglasses. 0.97
02:18:28.000 So we just artificially create sunglasses for each other. 0.99
02:18:30.000 Just put giant fucking black things over your eyes. 1.00
02:18:32.000 Done. 1.00
02:18:33.000 Dan, don't worry about the fucking hyper-violent rays or whatever is out there jacking you. 0.99
02:18:37.000 We have really long fingers from texting. 0.99
02:18:39.000 Exactly.
02:18:40.000 Well, at that point in time, you probably control everything with your mind.
02:18:44.000 Yeah.
02:18:44.000 There's probably no need for muscles.
02:18:46.000 That's why they're so skinny.
02:18:47.000 There's little tiny dudes with giant heads, and they control everything with their minds.
02:18:51.000 Do you think we could potentially evolve to that stage?
02:18:54.000 Unquestionably.
02:18:54.000 Really?
02:18:55.000 No doubt about it.
02:18:56.000 I think that if we can send, to this day, this computer's not hooked up to anything, Dan Hardy, but yet it's on the internet.
02:19:02.000 Yeah.
02:19:02.000 It's getting the internet through the space around us.
02:19:05.000 You're telling me that that can't eventually be human consciousness itself traveling through space, through some sort of a mechanism for generating it or promoting it or projecting it?
02:19:15.000 Do you know the fart theory, Dan?
02:19:16.000 It's coming.
02:19:16.000 It's coming.
02:19:18.000 Do you know the fart theory?
02:19:19.000 I don't know the fart theory.
02:19:20.000 My alien fart theory is this.
02:19:22.000 If someone farted and you didn't have a sense of smell, you'd have no idea that you're sitting in someone's fart.
02:19:27.000 Because you can't see it.
02:19:29.000 You know, you really don't know.
02:19:30.000 And farts are like a real fart. 0.99
02:19:32.000 You're like, oh my god, and you'll get the fuck out of your clothes. 0.99
02:19:34.000 But you don't see a damn thing. 0.97
02:19:36.000 Somehow or another you've been affected by something that you didn't pick up with your normal senses or with all of your normal senses. 0.91
02:19:41.000 You heard it and then you smelt it but you saw nothing.
02:19:45.000 How do we not know there's not an infinite amount of things all around us all the time that we just do not have the ability to detect or quantify?
02:19:52.000 So that's your argument for people that laugh at you when you use the term energy.
02:19:55.000 Like we start talking about energy and stuff, and like, bros are like, oh yeah, yeah, whatever, whatever.
02:20:00.000 Bros, yeah, bros are always a problem. 0.99
02:20:02.000 It's always about a fart, though. 0.57
02:20:03.000 Can't smell fart. 0.99
02:20:04.000 Yeah, and you don't know what the fuck that is. 0.99
02:20:05.000 That's energy. 0.97
02:20:06.000 Yeah.
02:20:08.000 And the bigger the dude, more likely the more energy he's going to put on his farts.
02:20:12.000 You know?
02:20:13.000 I mean, if Tony Hinchcliffe farts, or if Joey Diaz farts, which way do you want to lean?
02:20:16.000 You mean when Tony queefs.
02:20:18.000 Come on.
02:20:18.000 Hey!
02:20:19.000 Easy! 0.99
02:20:20.000 Come on, man. 1.00
02:20:21.000 Listen, Dan Hardy, you're a bad motherfucker. 1.00
02:20:24.000 Thank you so much. 1.00
02:20:24.000 I'll have you on any time you're around, man. 1.00
02:20:26.000 Any time you want to come back, we could do this for...
02:20:28.000 I have to leave, otherwise I would keep going forever.
02:20:30.000 I think you and I could talk for a long time.
02:20:32.000 Yeah.
02:20:33.000 And we've been friends for a long time, man. 1.00
02:20:34.000 You're a cool motherfucker. 0.99
02:20:35.000 I like you and I'm very appreciative of how you are evolving as a human being. 0.99
02:20:41.000 I think it's really fascinating to watch and I congratulate you on your travels.
02:20:45.000 Thank you.
02:20:46.000 Well, I'll be out helping Mac out and stuff.
02:20:48.000 So you're going to be for a while.
02:20:49.000 I'll be around in California and I'll kind of...
02:20:52.000 Let's do it again in a couple weeks.
02:20:53.000 Let's do that.
02:20:53.000 Let's do it again.
02:20:54.000 Powerful Dan Hardy.
02:20:55.000 All right, my brother.
02:20:56.000 Thank you, sir.
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