The Joe Rogan Experience - October 22, 2013


Joe Rogan Experience #407 - Eddie Bravo

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In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, Joe talks about his new book, "Joe Rogan's Next Big Breakup" and how it's going to change his life. He also talks about how Joey D is running out of breath all the time and how he could have killed someone if he had to do it in order to stay on top of his cardio. Also, he talks about why he doesn't want to get in a car with a drunk driver and how to get out of a car without getting into a car accident. And he tells a story about how he almost got into a fight with a guy who he thought was his best friend. It's a weird one, but it's a good one, and it's funny, so don't miss it! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Props to our sponsor, Onnit. Onnit is a company that makes a ton of awesome sports performance and strength and conditioning equipment that does a lot of really cool stuff. They make the stuff you need to do to get the most out of your day to day life. Onnit has some really cool equipment that makes you better at sports performance, and they make it easy to workout, sleep, sleep and get the rest of your life back on track to be the best you can ever dream of being the best athlete you ever again. You can get 10% off your first day of the week with Onnit Pro, the company you ve ever dreamed of becoming a professional athlete. Use code "ROGAN" code name ROGAN at checkout and save $10% off of your first purchase. That means you'll get 10%. and they'll give you 10% of the day, you'll be getting 10% discount code "PROGAN". you'll also get $5,000 in free shipping on your first box set, plus free shipping, shipping free on your next purchase, and you get an ad-free version of Onnit PROGAN, plus I'll get an extra $5 or $10 off your cart, and I'll send you a free shipping discount when you enter the code "rOGAN will be getting $50 or $25 or $50 and they get $25, plus they'll get a discount on your cart at $99 or $55 or $75, you get $10 OFF your first month.

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00:08:27.000 Good googly moogly, Eddie Bravo.
00:08:30.000 Good googly moogly.
00:08:32.000 What does that mean?
00:08:32.000 That's Joey Diaz's thing.
00:08:35.000 Now everybody's saying it.
00:08:36.000 People say it all the time. 0.99
00:08:37.000 When you see something fucking crazy, he goes, Good Googly Moogly! 0.99
00:08:42.000 And so it's stuck. 0.99
00:08:43.000 I haven't heard that yet.
00:08:44.000 That must be brand new.
00:08:45.000 It's a fairly recent one, and Joey's been doing it for the past second.
00:08:48.000 I'm sure it's an old saying.
00:08:49.000 You remember the Sasquahanna hat store?
00:08:52.000 One that he went off about the weed being Sasquahanna weed? 0.98
00:08:54.000 We didn't know what the fuck that meant. 0.98
00:08:56.000 I bet Good Googly Moogly is like that. 0.96
00:08:59.000 It's probably something that dudes used to say to each other.
00:09:00.000 Oh yeah, I remember that.
00:09:01.000 I've heard that.
00:09:02.000 You remember Good Googly Moogly?
00:09:03.000 I think they used to say it in cartoons a lot, actually, like old Looney Tunes.
00:09:06.000 Oh, now that you're saying that, I kind of remember that.
00:09:08.000 Googly Moogly.
00:09:10.000 Yeah, where did Googly...
00:09:11.000 Okay, let's Google.
00:09:12.000 The origin of Good Googly Moogly.
00:09:15.000 What?
00:09:15.000 You think that would possibly be...
00:09:18.000 Everything comes up, man.
00:09:21.000 Alright.
00:09:21.000 Yeah, right?
00:09:22.000 Here's a...
00:09:23.000 Okay, let's see.
00:09:25.000 The origin of Good Googly Moogly.
00:09:27.000 Alright.
00:09:27.000 Yep.
00:09:28.000 Urban Dictionary.
00:09:31.000 Wow.
00:09:33.000 What are you doing?
00:09:35.000 What are you playing?
00:09:35.000 It's a commercial that has it on there.
00:09:38.000 Look, it's an old man. 0.89
00:09:41.000 Not going anywhere for a while? 0.82
00:09:43.000 You're a googly moogly. 0.96
00:09:47.000 Is that something that Mr. Magoo would say?
00:09:50.000 Something like that, yeah.
00:09:51.000 I think my grandfather used to say it or something, or it used to be in the old Looney Tunes or... 0.99
00:09:55.000 Well, it's in the Urban Dictionary, and a phrase used when a real thick female walks by, and you want to say, damn! 1.00
00:10:05.000 That's like an updated... 0.97
00:10:07.000 That's what it says.
00:10:08.000 They've basically co-opted it.
00:10:10.000 They hijacked it.
00:10:12.000 Great googly moogly orange.
00:10:13.000 How long is it going to take for Joey Diaz to be, like...
00:10:17.000 An A-list actor, just a tremendous phenomenon.
00:10:21.000 Yeah, exactly, right?
00:10:21.000 Here's the origin.
00:10:23.000 Here's the origin.
00:10:24.000 Good Googly Moogly is in Frank Zappa's song, Nanook Rubs It.
00:10:29.000 The song was released in 1974. Play it.
00:10:32.000 The term is now used as an utterance of great surprise.
00:10:37.000 Huh.
00:10:39.000 Wow.
00:10:40.000 I like the first definition better.
00:10:42.000 Yeah, well that works today.
00:10:44.000 That's the Urban Dictionary version of it.
00:10:46.000 So when you see a girl, you can say something out loud and it's not offensive.
00:10:52.000 How could a girl get pissed off at that? 1.00
00:10:54.000 Especially if you're not looking at her.
00:10:55.000 You know what, Rahsaan, hanging out with a couple Brazilian guys, and there's one Brazilian guy that he says, His pickup line was, my God!
00:11:07.000 He would just go, my God!
00:11:10.000 That works in Brazil great, but not in the States.
00:11:14.000 My God!
00:11:16.000 That's all you need in Brazil.
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00:11:22.000 The girls are used to that shit. 1.00
00:11:24.000 What is it about Brazil? 1.00
00:11:26.000 There's way more girls in those countries like... 1.00
00:11:28.000 Brazil and Argentina are very similar in that there's way more girls than there is guys. 0.91
00:11:34.000 In the beginning, when we first started training jiu-jitsu, the Machados, we'd hear all these stories about Brazil and we all thought jiu-jitsu was as big as soccer in Brazil based on what they were telling us.
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00:11:54.000 Carlos Machado's guys, all the Texas guys are like, we gotta go to Brazil. 0.99
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00:12:02.000 And it's true. 0.56
00:12:03.000 There is a...
00:12:04.000 You just see that there's more girls than guys. 0.98
00:12:07.000 Is that like statistically?
00:12:08.000 It's got to be because you see it.
00:12:10.000 And you even see it more in Argentina.
00:12:11.000 I was in Argentina three years ago.
00:12:13.000 And you see just droves and gangs of girls just all together.
00:12:19.000 But they react different to the situation in Argentina than Brazil.
00:12:23.000 In Brazil...
00:12:25.000 It's a lot easier to make moves on chicks in Brazil. 1.00
00:12:28.000 But in Argentina, it backfired.
00:12:31.000 So girls are... 1.00
00:12:32.000 In Argentina, they're just like...
00:12:34.000 They don't trust dudes at all.
00:12:36.000 Because dudes can easily have multiple girlfriends. 1.00
00:12:39.000 And prostitution is totally legal.
00:12:41.000 So girls in Argentina are pissed off. 1.00
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00:12:45.000 You're going to definitely have other girlfriends. 0.99
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00:12:50.000 Prove to me that you... 0.99
00:12:51.000 So they're pissed off.
00:12:53.000 The girls... 1.00
00:12:54.000 That's my experience in Argentina.
00:12:56.000 Well, that's the one argument against prostitution is that it forces... 0.99
00:13:02.000 It allows, rather, guys to not be forced into relationships.
00:13:07.000 Like, how do you develop meaningful relationships and have children and all that jazz if there's legalized prostitution everywhere? 1.00
00:13:14.000 Because if you've got a couple of bucks and someone starts talking shit, you just go... 0.99
00:13:19.000 Okay. 1.00
00:13:20.000 You start going, I don't need this. 0.99
00:13:21.000 I don't need someone in my life yelling at me just so I can get my sex. 1.00
00:13:24.000 I can just go right over there and get my sex. 0.99
00:13:26.000 The guy that was taking us around in Argentina, we had a guide. 0.98
00:13:29.000 He said that it's very typical that you go out on a date with a chick.
00:13:33.000 You try the civilians.
00:13:36.000 You try him out. 0.96
00:13:37.000 You know, the whorehouses are always going to be there. 1.00
00:13:40.000 So he said he would just take a girl to a club and need to be dancing. 1.00
00:13:43.000 And if, you know, he'd start putting his hands on her on the dance floor and try to grab her ass. 1.00
00:13:47.000 And if she wasn't intuitive, she didn't respond. 0.99
00:13:50.000 He would just say, I'm going to the bathroom. 0.97
00:13:52.000 And just go right out and jump in a cab and go right to the whorehouse. 1.00
00:13:55.000 He had no patience. 0.99
00:13:57.000 He's telling us.
00:13:58.000 So that's why the girls are so pissed. 1.00
00:13:59.000 Because girls are used to that. 1.00
00:14:00.000 Girls are used to guys just saying, okay, I'm out. 0.60
00:14:03.000 You know?
00:14:04.000 Yeah.
00:14:04.000 Yeah.
00:14:05.000 They don't have to beg, basically.
00:14:07.000 What does that do to a culture?
00:14:09.000 That's very strange when you stop and think about it.
00:14:11.000 You know, because I'm a person that believes totally in personal freedom. 0.97
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00:14:21.000 If you are working at Denny's, serving people food for fucking $3 an hour, or someone says, hey, you can get a hundred bucks an hour, you can fuck a bunch of nice guys, you know, why not? 1.00
00:14:31.000 Why not do that? 0.98
00:14:31.000 I'm not saying that it should be something that people pursue, but why is it okay to give someone a hug? 0.98
00:14:38.000 Why is it okay to give someone a massage, and it's not okay to suck their dick? 1.00
00:14:43.000 You have a great point there, Joe. 1.00
00:14:45.000 You could pay for a massage.
00:14:46.000 Someone who doesn't want to touch you rubs on you for an hour and a half. 0.99
00:14:50.000 But you're telling me that, first of all, we both know there are crazy girls out there that would probably love to blow a bunch of guys all day. 1.00
00:14:57.000 They exist. 1.00
00:14:57.000 They do porn. 1.00
00:14:58.000 Yeah, I don't know why they exist, but they exist.
00:15:00.000 You could say they exist because of abuse.
00:15:02.000 You could say they exist because of childhood neglect.
00:15:04.000 That's possible.
00:15:05.000 I agree.
00:15:06.000 But they exist.
00:15:07.000 And it's not like you're supporting that market by creating whorehouses. 0.99
00:15:10.000 Those people are going to be there no matter what you do, unless you clean up society.
00:15:14.000 So you're always going to have people that are off the rails.
00:15:18.000 Why not?
00:15:18.000 Is that the big one?
00:15:21.000 Disease?
00:15:22.000 Yeah, because you have to control the disease. 0.99
00:15:23.000 With a back massage, you're not getting fucking AIDS. Isn't that crazy that you would think out of all the people on the planet, hookers would be the first to get AIDS, and they're not really getting AIDS? Isn't that crazy? 0.99
00:15:36.000 I don't know if anybody's really checking on hookers. 1.00
00:15:39.000 Going like, hey, how you doing?
00:15:41.000 I think they do.
00:15:41.000 Is your health in order?
00:15:42.000 Well, you know, you listen to that guy out on your podcast, Dewsburg.
00:15:45.000 Oh, Dewsburg. 0.96
00:15:46.000 He said in Brazil, virtually none of the hookers have AIDS. I don't know if he's going down there with a fucking pap smear. 1.00
00:15:54.000 That motherfucker's checking anybody. 1.00
00:15:56.000 I don't know about Dewsburg, man. 1.00
00:15:58.000 I do not know.
00:16:00.000 I found the conversation with him to be absolutely fascinating.
00:16:04.000 Very confusing. 1.00
00:16:06.000 I use the phrase, I hate it when I'm too dumb to know who's stupid. 1.00
00:16:12.000 I don't know if this one guy has it nailed and all these other doctors are out of their mind and they're all chasing a disease that doesn't exist. 1.00
00:16:19.000 That doesn't make enough sense to me.
00:16:20.000 It doesn't make enough sense when this guy starts talking about HIV and that HIV doesn't cause AIDS, but yet everyone else thinks it does.
00:16:28.000 There's serious peer-reviewed scientists that think it does. 0.82
00:16:31.000 So that confuses the shit out of me. 0.70
00:16:33.000 He makes a lot of sense though. 0.91
00:16:35.000 It makes a lot of sense.
00:16:36.000 That's what's even scarier.
00:16:37.000 You break it down.
00:16:37.000 That's what's even scarier.
00:16:38.000 You know, the debate him and Callan had, I mean, it seemed at the very end of that, it seemed like as skeptical as Brian is, It seemed like at the very end, based on your podcast, it sounded like he was starting to sort of believe him.
00:16:53.000 It's a bad situation, first of all.
00:16:56.000 It's unfair because Brian is not a geneticist.
00:16:59.000 He has no bioengineering background.
00:17:03.000 He has no idea what Dewsburg does for a living.
00:17:08.000 His concept of how it all works is so rudimentary.
00:17:12.000 So for him to debate a guy like that, it's not fair.
00:17:15.000 He shouldn't have been doing it.
00:17:16.000 I wanted to have him on because he's a smart dude.
00:17:19.000 You should get someone to debate him.
00:17:21.000 Yeah, I tried.
00:17:22.000 Nobody wants to do it.
00:17:23.000 It's really hard.
00:17:24.000 One of the reasons why we started working with Matt Staggs is that very reason.
00:17:29.000 To be able to get guests Like that.
00:17:32.000 To be able to get, you know, use a publicist to reach out and let someone know there's a legitimate show.
00:17:37.000 We're trying to get to the bottom of something.
00:17:39.000 No one wanted to touch it.
00:17:41.000 One guy wanted to touch it, and then he had all this backlash, apparently, from his peers.
00:17:46.000 People don't want you even debating Duesberg. 0.99
00:17:48.000 They think that it's almost like debating a Holocaust denier, you know, debating someone, you know, who believes really dangerous shit. 0.99
00:17:56.000 And so they think that what his work has done has killed many, many people. 0.99
00:18:02.000 I don't buy that, though.
00:18:03.000 My problem with I don't buy...
00:18:05.000 I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, but these people that say, you know, Duzerberger's responsible for all these people in Africa not taking their medication and all dying...
00:18:13.000 His points about Africa were really fascinating.
00:18:16.000 He was talking about how in Africa they say that everyone has AIDS, but they're not testing for HIV. They're assuming these people have AIDS because their immune system is trounced.
00:18:26.000 But you're also dealing with people that are exposed to a wide variety of other disorders and diseases and They have terrible, terrible, terrible nutrition.
00:18:35.000 And these people are not getting proper healthcare.
00:18:38.000 And when you see they're sick, if they have AIDS, at least, that qualifies for them to have funds, for them to get funding.
00:18:46.000 If you're dealing with an AIDS epidemic, you get money.
00:18:50.000 You get money from charities for an AIDS epidemic.
00:18:52.000 You don't get money based on the fact that people aren't eating right.
00:18:56.000 We're good to go.
00:19:13.000 He goes, everyone has something.
00:19:15.000 And I was like, what do you mean like something?
00:19:16.000 He's like, there's all sorts of different diseases.
00:19:19.000 There's undiagnosed diseases.
00:19:21.000 There's ailments that they just live with.
00:19:23.000 There's parasites that get in their system.
00:19:25.000 It's just they get it.
00:19:27.000 Like the toxoplasma thing that we talked about.
00:19:30.000 That's why.
00:19:31.000 It's like that kind of environment.
00:19:32.000 How does a chick that lives in the Amazon jungle... 1.00
00:19:35.000 Get into a river and not have vaginal parasites.
00:19:39.000 How is that possible? 0.98
00:19:41.000 They gotta be covered with vaginal parasites. 1.00
00:19:43.000 That must be a problem in the jungle. 0.98
00:19:45.000 You probably already have them from drinking water. 1.00
00:19:47.000 Does it make their pussy feel better? 1.00
00:19:49.000 No, it gives you a bunch of worms in there. 1.00
00:19:53.000 Dick parasites. 0.99
00:19:54.000 Dick leeches. 1.00
00:19:55.000 You have little tiny microscopic ones that dudes pull out on their own. 0.98
00:20:00.000 And every time they pull one out, it's like a tick.
00:20:03.000 You're not joking around, man.
00:20:05.000 There must be.
00:20:06.000 I'm just saying there must be.
00:20:07.000 No, listen, man. 1.00
00:20:08.000 When dudes piss in the Amazon, they have to cover their dick. 1.00
00:20:11.000 You have to piss into your hand. 1.00
00:20:12.000 You gotta cover your dick because fish will swim up your urethra. 1.00
00:20:16.000 Tapeworms coming out of your penis hole. 1.00
00:20:18.000 That's not bullshit. 1.00
00:20:18.000 They find your urine and they swim up river into your dick. 1.00
00:20:22.000 And then you have to cut them out. 1.00
00:20:24.000 Wouldn't it be easier if they weren't pissing? 0.99
00:20:27.000 Dude, the world is trying to kill you. 0.93
00:20:29.000 No, but if you weren't pissing and you're in the lagoon, isn't it easier? 0.97
00:20:33.000 But you can't find the hole.
00:20:34.000 It follows the river of piss.
00:20:36.000 Swims up the river.
00:20:37.000 It's evolved to follow the river like salmon.
00:20:40.000 Swim up to your mighty...
00:20:42.000 I used to have a joke about that.
00:20:43.000 I used to have a joke about that.
00:20:45.000 I didn't know there was a real disease that did that. 0.99
00:20:48.000 I used to joke about being at a strip club and peeing really hard because I was scared that the VD from the toilet was going to swing upriver into my dick. 0.99
00:20:57.000 That's hilarious. 0.99
00:20:58.000 But I didn't know that something actually does that.
00:21:01.000 That's pre-weed Rogan right there.
00:21:02.000 It is.
00:21:03.000 That's 99, Rogan.
00:21:06.000 But there's actually a fish that does that, like a parasite.
00:21:10.000 What is it called? 1.00
00:21:12.000 It swims into your dick. 1.00
00:21:13.000 Okay, let's find out. 1.00
00:21:14.000 You can't be banging Amazon chicks. 1.00
00:21:16.000 You're insane. 1.00
00:21:19.000 You know the kind of condom you would need? 1.00
00:21:20.000 You would need a fucking NASA would have to make that condom. 1.00
00:21:23.000 It's made out of Levi's. 0.99
00:21:25.000 It'd have to be one of those condoms that...
00:21:27.000 There are actual shorts, too.
00:21:28.000 It's one piece.
00:21:29.000 They're like booty shorts and a condom all in one.
00:21:32.000 And then you'd have to tape that.
00:21:35.000 It'd be too hard, dude.
00:21:36.000 It's called the Kandiru. 0.73
00:21:38.000 The Kandiru is a toothpick fish or vampire fish, a species of parasitic freshwater catfish.
00:21:46.000 Ugh! 0.97
00:21:47.000 Native to the Amazon Basin, where it's found in countries of Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, and Peru.
00:21:54.000 Jesus Christ.
00:21:56.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:21:57.000 Swims. 0.64
00:21:57.000 Wow. 0.64
00:21:59.000 The smaller species are known for a tendency to invade, alleged tendency to invade parasites, and parasites, the human urethra.
00:22:09.000 However, despite ethnological reports dating back to the late 19th century, the first documented case of the removal of the candiru from a human urethra did not occur until 1997. And even that incident has remained a matter of controversy.
00:22:24.000 Huh, so it might be bullshit. 1.00
00:22:26.000 Dude, they might have anal catfish. 1.00
00:22:28.000 Well, look at that thing. 1.00
00:22:29.000 How's that gonna get in the tip of your dick unless you want it to? 1.00
00:22:32.000 My shit's big. 1.00
00:22:32.000 That could definitely get into vaginas. 1.00
00:22:34.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:22:36.000 Yeah, of girls being there. 1.00
00:22:38.000 Fucking Amazon shit. 1.00
00:22:39.000 Wow, this is weird. 1.00
00:22:41.000 Okay, so this might totally be bullshit. 0.98
00:22:43.000 Historical accounts.
00:22:45.000 Earliest published reports of this Kendiru attacking human host comes from the German biologist CFP von Mardius in 1829, who never actually observed it, but rather was told about it by the natives of the area, including...
00:22:59.000 That men would tie a ligature around their penis while going into the river to pretend this was happening.
00:23:05.000 You know what that meant? 1.00
00:23:05.000 That meant dudes, they had cock rings on, they got busted, and they're like, no, no, no, there's a fish to fry up your dick. 1.00
00:23:12.000 Dude, you sound like we're about to take a trip into the Amazon, and one dude's all into banging Amazon chicks, and you're like, dude, look at this, man. 1.00
00:23:19.000 No, it's bullshit. 1.00
00:23:21.000 I totally believe it. 0.99
00:23:23.000 It makes sense. 1.00
00:23:23.000 I believe all that shit. 1.00
00:23:25.000 Yeah, it kind of does, but it seems like there was only one case where one was pulled out of a dude's dick. 1.00
00:23:29.000 Maybe they're just comfortable with him and they just live with him. 0.99
00:23:31.000 They just know him. 1.00
00:23:32.000 Well, let's Google up, can Deeru removed from dick? 1.00
00:23:36.000 There's probably a guy that put it in his dick. 1.00
00:23:38.000 Yeah, that's what they're saying. 1.00
00:23:39.000 That's what they're saying. 1.00
00:23:40.000 Punch an Amazon girl vaginal parasite. 1.00
00:23:46.000 Ooh, I'm scared. 1.00
00:23:47.000 Here's something on AOL.com about an eel that swam up somebody's penis and it had to be surgically removed. 0.99
00:23:53.000 Okay, well, hold on a second. 0.99
00:23:55.000 There's a penis removal video. 0.99
00:24:00.000 Yeah, dude. 0.99
00:24:01.000 Oh my god.
00:24:02.000 Go to this. 0.99
00:24:03.000 Kendero Penis Removal Operation. 0.99
00:24:06.000 Oh no. 0.99
00:24:07.000 Yes, yes, yes.
00:24:09.000 Get to that. 0.99
00:24:10.000 Candiru, C-A-N-D-I-R-U, penis removal operation. 0.99
00:24:14.000 Good googly moogly is all I have to say. 1.00
00:24:17.000 This is fucking crazy, man. 1.00
00:24:20.000 This is fucking crazy. 1.00
00:24:23.000 Did you get it? 1.00
00:24:29.000 Click on this. 1.00
00:24:30.000 Wait to see this shit. 1.00
00:24:31.000 They got one of them scopes. 1.00
00:24:33.000 And so they're going down this guy's arena and look, he's got a fish.
00:24:36.000 He's got a little baby fish camped out inside his pecker.
00:24:40.000 Oh my god. 1.00
00:24:41.000 Can you imagine in your fucking piss hole this guy- Oh my god, it's got eyes. 1.00
00:24:45.000 It's a fucking fish. 1.00
00:24:46.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
00:24:48.000 There's a fish in this guy's dick. 1.00
00:24:50.000 This is madness. 1.00
00:24:52.000 This is fucking madness. 1.00
00:24:54.000 This is a real thing. 1.00
00:24:54.000 This fish really does swim into your dick and you gotta send this dude in there with a vacuum cleaner. 1.00
00:25:00.000 A vacuum cleaner with a camera in the end of it to suck it out of there. 1.00
00:25:03.000 And then the fish is swimming away from your dick. 1.00
00:25:05.000 Is this in the Amazon or what? 1.00
00:25:08.000 It says...
00:25:10.000 Where does this happen?
00:25:11.000 Yes. 0.99
00:25:12.000 It said it lodged in the penis of Silvio Barbosa after urinating in the Amazon River tributary. 0.83
00:25:19.000 Dr. Anwar Samad removes the candiru fish in a two-hour operation. 0.97
00:25:25.000 Dude!
00:25:26.000 He's got to keep going in there.
00:25:28.000 Look at how many they're in there.
00:25:29.000 Oh my god.
00:25:31.000 Oh my god. 1.00
00:25:32.000 It's like his ass is packed with dicks. 1.00
00:25:34.000 But it's not. 1.00
00:25:35.000 It's his penis packed with fish. 1.00
00:25:37.000 Couldn't you just put a poison in and kill them all? 1.00
00:25:39.000 That would kill your dick too, stupid. 1.00
00:25:42.000 It had to be something. 1.00
00:25:43.000 You don't inject poison into your dick? 1.00
00:25:45.000 What if it breaks your dick? 1.00
00:25:46.000 You've got to let the bad man with the vacuum cleaner go in there and do his business. 1.00
00:25:49.000 Well, how did they deal with it before doctors?
00:25:51.000 They didn't. 1.00
00:25:53.000 They would just die of a rotten dick? 1.00
00:25:55.000 Yeah, they'd just have a fish living in their dick. 1.00
00:25:57.000 You're not getting it out. 0.99
00:25:58.000 What are you gonna do? 1.00
00:25:59.000 You're gonna send a fucking fish hook in there? 1.00
00:26:01.000 Maybe a shaman could do something. 1.00
00:26:02.000 Put a little baby cat in there. 1.00
00:26:03.000 Blow on it.
00:26:04.000 Blow some ayahuasca dust on it.
00:26:09.000 This last weekend's UFC, you know Hootsy?
00:26:15.000 Do you know who he is?
00:26:16.000 Hootsy. 0.84
00:26:18.000 He's an AKA striking coach.
00:26:19.000 No.
00:26:20.000 You know that guy?
00:26:20.000 Uh-uh.
00:26:21.000 He's a badass striking coach.
00:26:23.000 I thought it was something Mendez or something.
00:26:25.000 That's Javier Mendez.
00:26:27.000 He did some stuff with him too.
00:26:30.000 I forget his last name.
00:26:33.000 But anyway, this dude got KO'd and he was singing a song for him.
00:26:41.000 Was it his fighter?
00:26:42.000 No.
00:26:43.000 It was the other dude's fighter. 0.99
00:26:44.000 He was taking care of, you know, corners and shit. 0.77
00:26:46.000 And so, you know how they have a bunch of different guys who are trainers or commission guys. 0.87
00:26:53.000 Commission guys.
00:26:54.000 And who are, you know, taking care of various things like cut men and stuff like that.
00:26:58.000 And they run in, take care of corners, do various things.
00:27:00.000 So they're not...
00:27:01.000 That night he wasn't part of a team.
00:27:03.000 He wasn't with that guy's camp.
00:27:03.000 He was with the commission.
00:27:04.000 Exactly.
00:27:05.000 So the...
00:27:06.000 I don't know his exact...
00:27:10.000 Anyway, when the dude was out, he was singing him an ayahuasca song.
00:27:14.000 Nice.
00:27:15.000 And I talked to him about it, and he's like, he's in the place of the dreams.
00:27:18.000 I tried to give him comfort while he was there.
00:27:23.000 Be serious about it.
00:27:24.000 It's pretty intense. 0.99
00:27:25.000 He's an ayahuasca shaman, so he does ceremonies and shit. 1.00
00:27:30.000 Damn. 1.00
00:27:31.000 Yeah, so it was pretty cool. 0.99
00:27:33.000 How often do you see this guy?
00:27:34.000 I see him all the time.
00:27:35.000 Tell him I'm interested in doing a ceremony with him.
00:27:38.000 Oh, he'll do it, yeah.
00:27:39.000 We'll come down.
00:27:40.000 We'll bring him down to LA. Dean Lister wants to do a ceremony.
00:27:43.000 I'm not done with him.
00:27:44.000 Why not?
00:27:45.000 You know, too much troubles.
00:27:48.000 Too much troubles, really?
00:27:49.000 He's an MMA fighter.
00:27:52.000 I'm just kidding.
00:27:53.000 I like Dean.
00:27:54.000 He's a good dude.
00:27:55.000 Is he retired from MMA? I don't know, but I was with him all weekend in China for Abu Dhabi.
00:28:00.000 Did he compete?
00:28:01.000 Yeah, he did.
00:28:02.000 How did he do?
00:28:02.000 He did great.
00:28:04.000 He had four or five heel hooks.
00:28:06.000 He didn't win the gold medal in anything, but he may have gotten third in his division.
00:28:13.000 He was a badass grappler.
00:28:15.000 Tough dudes this year. 0.99
00:28:18.000 Holy shit. 1.00
00:28:20.000 China stinks. 1.00
00:28:22.000 And if I never go back there again, I mean, it stinks like literally. 0.99
00:28:26.000 Like my bathroom and my hotel stunk like the sewer.
00:28:29.000 It was like the water.
00:28:31.000 They turn off the water and then they turn it on.
00:28:33.000 But the people are beautiful in China.
00:28:36.000 They're beautiful.
00:28:37.000 But they just have a problem in Beijing with their sewers, man.
00:28:41.000 It's just, whew, you walk down the street in every block.
00:28:44.000 You're like, whoa, Jesus.
00:28:45.000 Is there just too many people? 1.00
00:28:47.000 Did someone die or did someone take a shit? 0.99
00:28:50.000 I don't know if it's that. 0.99
00:28:52.000 It's just old.
00:28:53.000 But Abu Dhabi was amazing.
00:28:56.000 The tournament?
00:28:57.000 Jesus Christ.
00:28:58.000 It was so much.
00:29:00.000 So, I mean, you know, Amir Alam, one of my brownbolts, fought in the heavyweight division, and he trained his ass off, man.
00:29:09.000 He was ready.
00:29:10.000 He was on fire.
00:29:11.000 And we get an unknown in the first round.
00:29:14.000 So we're thinking...
00:29:15.000 Awesome.
00:29:16.000 We should beat this guy. 0.51
00:29:18.000 His last name was Dopp. 0.98
00:29:19.000 Jared Dopp.
00:29:20.000 We thought, okay, we should be able to beat this guy.
00:29:23.000 Because he could have easily had Cyborg in the first round.
00:29:25.000 He could have easily had Buchecha in the first round. 1.00
00:29:28.000 That would have been fuck. 1.00
00:29:29.000 Okay. 1.00
00:29:30.000 Good luck.
00:29:31.000 And for people who don't understand, there's a bunch of cyborgs.
00:29:34.000 Oh yeah, yeah.
00:29:34.000 You only heard of Cyborg the woman fighter.
00:29:37.000 And there's an MMA cyborg too, not that one.
00:29:39.000 Her ex-husband is an MMA fighter named Cyborg, but there's a...
00:29:42.000 Roberto Abreu, is that how you say his name?
00:29:44.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:29:45.000 Badass.
00:29:46.000 He won the absolute.
00:29:47.000 He's amazing.
00:29:48.000 This guy impressed the... 1.00
00:29:50.000 Shit out of me. 1.00
00:29:51.000 He's so big. 1.00
00:29:52.000 He's a fucking ox, but he moves like a gazelle, dude. 1.00
00:29:57.000 It was incredible. 1.00
00:29:58.000 There's a couple passes that he did just blew my mind.
00:30:01.000 I'm like running it in.
00:30:02.000 I'm on the plane on the way back going over that pass.
00:30:05.000 I can't forget that pass.
00:30:06.000 I got to analyze it.
00:30:07.000 It was amazing tech.
00:30:08.000 There was at least 10 different techniques where I Logged it in my brain.
00:30:12.000 I gotta go back and check that one out.
00:30:15.000 Cobrina, the guy who won it all in the lightweight, he finally beat Hafa Mendes, man.
00:30:19.000 Hafa Mendes won the last two years.
00:30:20.000 He's virtually indestructible.
00:30:23.000 Him and Cobrina were in the finals again, and Cobrina won.
00:30:27.000 He pulled it out.
00:30:27.000 A judge's decision at the end.
00:30:29.000 They couldn't score any points on each other.
00:30:31.000 They just canceled each other.
00:30:32.000 What do you think about those, though?
00:30:33.000 Aren't those weird when the judges make a score?
00:30:36.000 I have a real problem with that.
00:30:38.000 Well, the one thing I love about Abu Dhabi is the Sheik. 0.98
00:30:43.000 He's such a badass.
00:30:45.000 The Sheik just decides to put together the best jujitsu tournament on the planet.
00:30:50.000 He just makes it happen.
00:30:51.000 He pays for it.
00:30:52.000 It's all over the world.
00:30:54.000 One year it's in Sao Paulo.
00:30:56.000 One year it's in Barcelona.
00:30:57.000 It's in LA. It's in China. 0.83
00:30:59.000 It's amazing. 1.00
00:31:00.000 The Sheik just throws down and he makes shit happen. 0.98
00:31:02.000 And he created the rules and the format based on what he thought would be best for the entertainment value. 0.98
00:31:11.000 So he's down to evolve.
00:31:12.000 Over the years, he's tweaked stuff.
00:31:15.000 He's like the Japanese. 1.00
00:31:16.000 The Japanese in pride, as soon as they recognize a problem, they fucking change it. 1.00
00:31:20.000 For people who have no idea what we're talking about, the Abu Dhabi is Abu Dhabi Combat Championships, right? 0.98
00:31:25.000 Abu Dhabi Combat Club.
00:31:27.000 They have the biggest jiu-jitsu no-gi jiu-jitsu tournament in the world.
00:31:32.000 They have this huge thing and it's put together by, how do you say his name?
00:31:35.000 Sheik Ta Noon? 0.95
00:31:36.000 Ta Noon.
00:31:37.000 He is also part owner of the UFC and he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
00:31:41.000 He's a huge jiu-jitsu fan.
00:31:42.000 So he put together this enormous grappling competition that's the most prestigious grappling event in the world.
00:31:49.000 And so Eddie was just there in China with one of your fighters.
00:31:52.000 So how did he do against this dude?
00:31:53.000 Well, let me finish what I was talking about the Sheik. 0.98
00:31:57.000 We're getting to the format, the rules.
00:31:59.000 So, you know, one of the coolest things that he changed was the same day weigh-in. 0.99
00:32:05.000 He changed that shit. 0.99
00:32:06.000 And not only is it... 0.99
00:32:07.000 Because generally, especially in MMA and pro MMA, you weigh in officially the day before.
00:32:14.000 And then you have 24 hours to recover, so...
00:32:17.000 That's huge in deciding what weight category you're going to compete in and how you're going to lose the weight.
00:32:22.000 It's massive. 0.98
00:32:23.000 If you have to do a same-day weigh-in, ooh, shit, everything changes now. 0.99
00:32:27.000 You can't have that crazy, diabolical cut that you're used to. 0.98
00:32:31.000 Now it's a little different.
00:32:33.000 And the IBJJF changed it, too.
00:32:35.000 They make it.
00:32:36.000 You weigh in right before you step on the mat, and if you weigh even a pound over, boom, you're gone.
00:32:42.000 So Abu Dhabi, the sheik, he did the same thing. 1.00
00:32:47.000 Not only is it same day weigh-ins, but you've got to weigh in the day before, the day of, and the next day if you make it to the third round.
00:32:57.000 You have to keep weighing in.
00:32:58.000 I was going to say, because it seems kind of dangerous if you just did it right before you went in, because some guys would still probably push themselves.
00:33:03.000 You know what I mean?
00:33:04.000 It's risky, because you see these high-level grapplers every now and then.
00:33:07.000 You see them gas, and they try to cut too much weight, and you don't have that much time to recover.
00:33:12.000 So if you're going to do a same-day weigh-in, especially mat-side weigh-in, man, you just got to get in the best shape of your life and figure out what weight that is.
00:33:19.000 You really can't cut, really, or you're going to pay for it.
00:33:23.000 You're going to gas out.
00:33:24.000 And some people still take the chance, though.
00:33:26.000 But with the rules, the Sheik decided the best thing to do to ensure action most of the time.
00:33:35.000 Because no matter how you put together the rules, not every match is going to be exciting.
00:33:40.000 You have to accept that.
00:33:40.000 But you're always looking to make the majority.
00:33:43.000 You're striving for the majority of the matches to be exciting. 0.87
00:33:46.000 So in Abu Dhabi, every tournament does shit different.
00:33:49.000 But in Abu Dhabi, they're 10-minute matches. 0.77
00:33:51.000 The finals are 20-minute matches.
00:33:53.000 But in these 10-minute matches, The first five minutes, there's no points at all.
00:33:57.000 They don't count anything.
00:33:58.000 And the second five minutes, that's when the points start.
00:34:01.000 And if you pull guard, you lose a point.
00:34:04.000 So that's huge when strategizing for a fight.
00:34:08.000 Because when you're competing in this...
00:34:10.000 Explain to people why the first five minutes there's no points.
00:34:12.000 That was instilled so that if there's no points, fighters would take more chances because...
00:34:21.000 Generally, if there's points counting all the time, you don't want to take any chances.
00:34:23.000 One wrong slip, dude's up two points.
00:34:25.000 Now he's up, he's just going to hold.
00:34:26.000 He doesn't really think about the submission, he's just trying to get to the next round.
00:34:29.000 So it changes the dynamics of your strategy and how it all plays out.
00:34:33.000 So the Sheik thought, okay, let's try to shake it up. 0.52
00:34:37.000 First five minutes, no points.
00:34:38.000 So the fighters will take more chances and that turns into entertainment for the viewer.
00:34:44.000 So, that happens sometimes with some fighters.
00:34:47.000 Jean-Jacques Machado, he took advantage of that.
00:34:51.000 He went out there, pulled guard, and got the party rolling.
00:34:53.000 He's like, okay, I'm gonna sit down.
00:34:55.000 You get on top.
00:34:56.000 Let's go.
00:34:57.000 I'm not gonna spend five minutes trying to take you down.
00:34:59.000 I'm not a wrestler.
00:35:00.000 You wrestled your whole life.
00:35:01.000 Let's just get the party started.
00:35:03.000 I'll let you get on top.
00:35:04.000 I'll kick the ball off to you.
00:35:06.000 I'll let you receive first.
00:35:07.000 How about that?
00:35:07.000 That's all that is.
00:35:08.000 So in the first round, guys will do that.
00:35:10.000 They're like, I'm not going to spend all my energy trying to take a dude down.
00:35:12.000 It's not a wrestling competition.
00:35:13.000 So they sit down.
00:35:14.000 The problem is, in the second half of the match, if you decide to sit down, you lose a point.
00:35:20.000 So the ref goes, points!
00:35:22.000 At five minutes.
00:35:23.000 So wherever you're at, the next transition, you know...
00:35:27.000 If you already have the guys back at that five-minute mark, they don't give you the points.
00:35:31.000 You have to lose the back and then get it back.
00:35:33.000 A lot of weird stuff that I didn't understand.
00:35:36.000 But again, the point of this weird format is to make it better.
00:35:41.000 So the Sheik is always trying to make it better.
00:35:44.000 And the one thing I'm pretty sure he's got to change that losing a point...
00:35:52.000 If you pull guard, because that changes a lot.
00:35:54.000 We saw a lot of, not a lot, but a couple of the finals where both jiu-jitsu guys, world-class jiu-jitsu guys like Cobrina and Hoffa, some of the two best guys in the world, very good at submissions, amazing at passing, unbelievable, beautiful jiu-jitsu.
00:36:09.000 What you had in their match is nobody wanted to pull guard because in the finals, you lose a point right away.
00:36:15.000 They don't give you, it's not the first half, no points. 0.94
00:36:17.000 What in that really does come from guys just having shitty guards. 0.99
00:36:20.000 It comes from people not realizing how dangerous a guard is if a guy's a real bad motherfucker with it. 0.99
00:36:25.000 Yeah, and we saw that too. 0.99
00:36:26.000 One of the competitors came in.
00:36:27.000 He's a 22-year-old kid.
00:36:29.000 Him and his brother are real famous.
00:36:30.000 They just got their black belts.
00:36:31.000 They're the Meow Brothers. 0.58
00:36:33.000 They're like Machida, like half Japanese, half Brazilian from Brazil.
00:36:36.000 Meow, like a kitty cat meow?
00:36:37.000 Yeah, but it's like Sao Paulo, meow.
00:36:40.000 Okay.
00:36:40.000 But it's not really like meow, meow, cat.
00:36:41.000 It could be, but it's spelled, I think, M-I-Y-A-O. They should get Brian to design their shirts.
00:36:47.000 You know what I mean?
00:36:48.000 Totally.
00:36:49.000 Well, these guys, all they do is pull guard and play De La Riva and Spiral Guard relentlessly.
00:36:54.000 They don't stop.
00:36:55.000 That's all they do.
00:36:56.000 They're relentless.
00:36:57.000 They have an infinite amount of cardio, and that's his style.
00:37:00.000 He has zero wrestling.
00:37:02.000 So that's why he lost.
00:37:03.000 He lost because, bam!
00:37:04.000 So what ends up happening with this rule set, which was aimed at making it more entertaining, but what's happening now...
00:37:11.000 And I'm sure the Sheik's gonna see this because everyone's talking about it on the internet. 0.98
00:37:14.000 I'm not the only one.
00:37:15.000 Everyone's talking.
00:37:16.000 As they were watching, everyone came to the same conclusion.
00:37:19.000 Like, oh, there's a problem here.
00:37:21.000 Hmm, we got a problem.
00:37:23.000 The Sheik is one of those guys that will fix it. 0.99
00:37:25.000 And he's got to fix it.
00:37:26.000 Because the problem was we had Cobrina and Hoffa in the finals.
00:37:34.000 They just tried to take each other down and they couldn't because they're not wrestlers.
00:37:38.000 The wrestling is decent, you know, but according to dudes who know wrestling, like dudes who wrestled in college, they'll say they're at like a high school state champion level, you know, not D1. All-American Johnny Hendricks level,
00:37:54.000 right?
00:37:55.000 Right.
00:37:55.000 Whole different animal.
00:37:56.000 So what we end up getting is 20 minutes of two dudes who have okay wrestling, you know, like D5 wrestling, going at it, and we don't see any jiu-jitsu.
00:38:04.000 No one took anyone down?
00:38:05.000 They don't want to pull guard.
00:38:06.000 Oh.
00:38:07.000 Yeah.
00:38:08.000 It's way easier to not get taken down than to take someone down.
00:38:13.000 It's way easier.
00:38:14.000 Your whole focus is I'm not going to get taken down and you're going to take me down.
00:38:18.000 Even if you wrestled in college and I didn't wrestle in college, it's still going to be hard for you.
00:38:22.000 Of course, I have to work on it, but you can get that takedown defense a lot quicker than you can...
00:38:29.000 Take down ability.
00:38:30.000 Exactly.
00:38:30.000 Take down ability, man.
00:38:31.000 That takes a long, long, long time.
00:38:33.000 Sprawling can come easier.
00:38:34.000 So what you end up having is two dudes that were wrestling for a very long time.
00:38:40.000 They got to the ground briefly a couple times and they went to double overtime, triple overtime.
00:38:45.000 It went forever.
00:38:46.000 And at the very end, 0-0.
00:38:48.000 The ref makes the decision and gave it to Cobrina. 1.00
00:38:51.000 So how does that work?
00:38:52.000 How can a ref make a decision like that?
00:38:54.000 That's how we got started off.
00:38:57.000 That doesn't make any sense to me.
00:38:58.000 I don't buy that.
00:38:59.000 How does that guy walk away with a win?
00:39:01.000 I mean, I understand that they're the elite of the elite, two of the best in the world.
00:39:07.000 I guess someone has to win?
00:39:08.000 Yeah.
00:39:09.000 But that doesn't make any sense to me.
00:39:10.000 Yeah, the rules need revamping, and I'm...
00:39:15.000 I'm quite positive that the Sheik is going to take that. 1.00
00:39:18.000 Because what you end up having, if you don't lose a point for pulling guard, losing a point for pulling guard is like this.
00:39:24.000 I use a football analogy when I'm trying to explain Jiu Jitsu to someone who doesn't know anything about Jiu Jitsu.
00:39:30.000 Do you understand the rules of football and the strategy?
00:39:33.000 Most Americans do, so it's just like football.
00:39:37.000 Generally, a guy has a ball, and the team has the ball, and they're marching down the field, and then a team is defending, trying not to let them march down the field.
00:39:45.000 Same thing.
00:39:45.000 Guy on top in jiu-jitsu is trying to march down the field.
00:39:48.000 Guy on bottom is playing defense.
00:39:50.000 The guy on defense can score, but it's not...
00:39:54.000 A lot easier to score when you're on top and you can use your weight because it's like you have the ball.
00:39:59.000 You're scoring.
00:39:59.000 But the defensive football team can intercept and run back for a touchdown.
00:40:03.000 They can score.
00:40:03.000 Some teams are very high.
00:40:05.000 But it's rare.
00:40:06.000 Same thing with the bottom.
00:40:07.000 It's rare that there's guys that can score a lot off their back.
00:40:10.000 But generally, you want to be on top.
00:40:12.000 You want to have the ball.
00:40:13.000 If you're on top, you're in someone's open guard.
00:40:15.000 It's like you're on the 20-yard line.
00:40:16.000 You get on the top half, you're like at the 50-yard line.
00:40:19.000 You pass the side control, you can score from side control, but it's a lot easier if you score from the back, so side control is like the 35-yard line.
00:40:28.000 The mount is like the 20-yard line.
00:40:30.000 Now you're in the red zone, and if you get the dudes back, first and goal on the 10. Basically, it's the same thing.
00:40:36.000 You're marching down the field, you're getting into scoring position.
00:40:38.000 Yes, you can score from midfield.
00:40:40.000 You could score from top half, you could throw guillotine, you can throw darces, but it's easier when you're on their back.
00:40:46.000 It's easier when you're right there on the 10-yard line.
00:40:49.000 So in football, the way they start the game is the ref flips a coin.
00:40:54.000 One of the teams picks heads or tails.
00:40:56.000 And I think it's the visiting team.
00:40:59.000 And then if it's heads, whoever wins the coin toss gets to decide.
00:41:04.000 Who receives and who kicks off?
00:41:06.000 Generally, a large percentage of the time, if you win the coin toss, you say, we're going to receive.
00:41:12.000 And you're going to kick off.
00:41:13.000 We're going to be on offense first.
00:41:15.000 You're going to be on defense first.
00:41:16.000 I'm going to be on top in your open guard.
00:41:18.000 You're going to be on the bottom.
00:41:19.000 You flip a coin, you have to choose? 1.00
00:41:21.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
00:41:22.000 Generally. 1.00
00:41:22.000 I would, too. 1.00
00:41:23.000 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
00:41:24.000 So you're saying that you should do a match where you flip a coin?
00:41:28.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:41:29.000 What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, so...
00:41:32.000 Sometimes a team will choose to kick off and not receive.
00:41:37.000 That's kind of like if we're going to grapple and I sit down, I chose to play defense first.
00:41:43.000 That's what a guard puller is.
00:41:44.000 It doesn't happen that often. 0.86
00:41:45.000 So it's penalizing someone one point for sitting on their butt, for letting the guy get on top. 0.92
00:41:52.000 He's working to get on top.
00:41:53.000 He worked very hard on his wrestling to get on top.
00:41:55.000 The dude is saying, I'm kicking off to you.
00:41:57.000 You receive.
00:41:58.000 I'm going to let you go first.
00:42:00.000 That's like a team saying, we're going to kick off to you, and losing three points for it.
00:42:08.000 Like, you're already giving them an advantage.
00:42:10.000 You're going to lose the advantage and points?
00:42:13.000 Doesn't make any sense.
00:42:14.000 You understand what I'm saying?
00:42:15.000 I could see, yeah.
00:42:16.000 I could see, so say if they don't have points, you know, they don't score points.
00:42:20.000 You know, with their idea of advantage, maybe you could say you could give someone an advantage if a guy pulled guard.
00:42:28.000 That's still a point.
00:42:29.000 Is it a point?
00:42:30.000 If you give an advantage, you still won.
00:42:31.000 If it's 0-0, the guy who has the advantage wins. 1.00
00:42:34.000 That's a stupid analogy, actually. 1.00
00:42:35.000 Really? 1.00
00:42:36.000 It should be like this.
00:42:37.000 It should be like this.
00:42:38.000 It should either be submission only.
00:42:40.000 That's it.
00:42:41.000 And you have overtime rounds.
00:42:42.000 And I could explain that if you want to hear it.
00:42:44.000 But generally you have submission only.
00:42:45.000 No points.
00:42:46.000 No advantages.
00:42:48.000 It's all about who gets the submission.
00:42:50.000 The whole goal is to get submission.
00:42:51.000 Because in a lot of...
00:42:52.000 There was epic matches.
00:42:54.000 There's incredible athletes.
00:42:56.000 I have respect for all of them. 0.98
00:42:59.000 But when you're under this rule set, there's a lot of times in these matches where the submission wasn't even a thought, just the W. There were matches where there's like three minutes left, guy sat on his ass, he loses a point. 0.92
00:43:14.000 Now I'm on top.
00:43:15.000 I want to win that money at the end because the winner of each division wins $10,000.
00:43:21.000 The guy on top automatically is going to be very cautious, reserved, and not be aggressive, and definitely not even consider a submission.
00:43:32.000 It's all about the W. So that changes... 0.76
00:43:36.000 The entertainment value.
00:43:37.000 And for me, that's the most important thing.
00:43:39.000 Do you think that it should be just submission only?
00:43:43.000 Either submission only, or you really, really break down the point system the way it should be.
00:43:51.000 And this is the way it should be.
00:43:54.000 In Dean Lister's match against...
00:43:56.000 I forget who he lost to.
00:43:57.000 There were so many matches.
00:43:59.000 But he was down on points, and at the very end, he put...
00:44:05.000 I think it was João Assis.
00:44:06.000 He put him in a triangle.
00:44:08.000 He had him in a cinch triangle at the very end.
00:44:11.000 And he was down by two points, maybe three.
00:44:14.000 I'm not sure on the points, but he was down.
00:44:17.000 It was 30 seconds.
00:44:18.000 Put him in a triangle.
00:44:19.000 In my eyes, a triangle, you should get more...
00:44:24.000 Anything cinched, like a triangle, a figure.
00:44:26.000 If your legs are cinched, like you have a guy on a triangle, doesn't mean he's going to tap.
00:44:29.000 A lot of times, some guys escape.
00:44:31.000 But if it's totally cinched, that guy was in deep, deep trouble.
00:44:34.000 If he escapes, he got lucky.
00:44:37.000 So that cinched triangle should represent way more than a...
00:44:49.000 We're good to go.
00:45:00.000 A cinched darse, which people escape half the time, but if you cinch it all the way up, and as a referee, you should see if it's a near sub.
00:45:09.000 If it's a cinched darse, a cinched triangle, a cinched arm triangle, a straightened out arm, like you straighten the guy's arm and he escaped by the skin of his teeth.
00:45:19.000 You straightened out his leg like a knee bar.
00:45:21.000 He escaped by the skin of his teeth.
00:45:23.000 You can see that.
00:45:24.000 I wouldn't count heel hook and toe hold attempts because then they're so easy just to jump on and then it turns into just a bunch of I would count in my world, I would count straight knee bars, straight arm bars, anything cinched.
00:45:40.000 That should be seven points.
00:45:43.000 Yeah, I agree with you.
00:45:43.000 I think it should five-something.
00:45:45.000 Yeah, it should be like football.
00:45:47.000 Yeah, a pass.
00:45:48.000 So what is it now?
00:45:49.000 It's one?
00:45:50.000 No.
00:45:51.000 Anything cinched is not in Abu Dhabi.
00:45:53.000 There's nothing.
00:45:54.000 What?
00:45:54.000 It means nothing.
00:45:55.000 Wait a minute.
00:45:56.000 It means nothing.
00:45:57.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:45:58.000 It doesn't mean anything?
00:45:59.000 So if a guy has a cinched in triangle, that's not a near submission?
00:46:01.000 Mm-mm. 0.96
00:46:02.000 That's ridiculous. 0.98
00:46:03.000 Why do we have that? 0.99
00:46:04.000 Those rules are terrible.
00:46:05.000 It should be worth way more than a sweep.
00:46:09.000 Yeah, without a doubt.
00:46:11.000 Sweeps, you know, people recover from sweeps, but if someone has you that close to being tapped, like a cinched rear naked or something along those lines...
00:46:17.000 That's like a goal.
00:46:18.000 That's like a touchdown. 0.99
00:46:19.000 You got out of it, but goddamn, that guy got to an incredibly dominant position. 0.99
00:46:23.000 Exactly. 0.99
00:46:23.000 That should be... 0.99
00:46:24.000 And Naga is...
00:46:27.000 We're good to go.
00:46:31.000 We're good to go.
00:46:47.000 It's growing.
00:46:48.000 It's growing.
00:46:49.000 But if you're still committed to points, like Naga's, Naga, they did change up and tweak the point system.
00:46:55.000 They are giving, I think, one point, maybe two for a near sub, which they're on the right track.
00:47:02.000 You're on whoever's running Naga.
00:47:03.000 Kip Collar, you're definitely on the right track.
00:47:05.000 Let's turn it up a little bit more.
00:47:07.000 Let's make cinch darses, cinch triangles, seven points.
00:47:11.000 It makes sense.
00:47:11.000 That's like a touchdown.
00:47:12.000 A sweep is two.
00:47:14.000 Yeah, no, I agree with you.
00:47:15.000 We're both on the same page.
00:47:16.000 So, besides that, the tournament, Abu Dhabi ADCC is the most prestigious on the planet.
00:47:22.000 If it wasn't for that tournament, I wouldn't be sitting here.
00:47:26.000 That's for damn sure.
00:47:26.000 Yeah, it just seems like those rules are just, they need to be revised.
00:47:29.000 That's all.
00:47:30.000 Now, tell me about Kron Gracie.
00:47:32.000 That's what I was about to tell you.
00:47:33.000 You read my mind.
00:47:34.000 No, I'm looking at a video of him right now.
00:47:36.000 Kron Gracie versus Gary Tonin.
00:47:38.000 Gary Tonin's a 21-year-old dude who, he shocked everybody.
00:47:44.000 That match was probably the greatest grappling match of all time.
00:47:50.000 Gary Tonin and Kron Gracie.
00:47:52.000 Really?
00:47:52.000 Kron Gracie gets his arm.
00:47:56.000 Straightens it out.
00:47:57.000 He looks like he's going to break it.
00:47:58.000 Spoiler alert.
00:47:59.000 Well, you don't want to talk about it?
00:48:01.000 I'm just kidding.
00:48:02.000 No, trust me.
00:48:03.000 It doesn't even matter.
00:48:05.000 Straighten his arm out.
00:48:05.000 He straightened his arm out.
00:48:06.000 He wouldn't tap.
00:48:07.000 They kept rolling.
00:48:08.000 Straighten his arm out.
00:48:09.000 Everyone's going nuts.
00:48:10.000 Everywhere he rolls, the arm crawling is right there at every angle with the arm totally straight.
00:48:16.000 It looked like it's going to break.
00:48:18.000 Everybody's going, oh!
00:48:19.000 He didn't just hold it and escape.
00:48:21.000 Dude, they were rolling all over the place.
00:48:22.000 And that arm should have broke off.
00:48:24.000 Dude, he survived.
00:48:26.000 He didn't tap.
00:48:26.000 Gets on top.
00:48:28.000 Takes Kron's back.
00:48:30.000 Puts him in the truck.
00:48:31.000 Almost has Kron in a twister.
00:48:33.000 Oh my god.
00:48:34.000 Kron spins out.
00:48:35.000 He goes back to the back.
00:48:36.000 Puts an anaconda on him.
00:48:38.000 AKA triangle body lock on him.
00:48:40.000 Has Kron face down.
00:48:42.000 It looks over. 1.00
00:48:44.000 Hickson's sitting there going, oh, damn. 0.98
00:48:46.000 And in the first match, that was Kron's second match. 0.99
00:48:49.000 In his first match, Krohn demolished Andy Wang.
00:48:54.000 I love you, Andy Wang, but he went right through him in 30 seconds.
00:48:56.000 And Hickson didn't even move.
00:48:58.000 He's sitting there.
00:48:59.000 And he went right through Andy Wang and Hickson didn't even move.
00:49:02.000 And I was looking at Hickson.
00:49:03.000 I'm like, man, that's way doper than getting all excited.
00:49:07.000 Him not doing anything like he expects it.
00:49:09.000 It's no big deal.
00:49:11.000 You went right through him.
00:49:12.000 The best possible outcome, Hickson didn't even make a move like Yoda.
00:49:15.000 And I admired that.
00:49:17.000 I'm like, wow, that's...
00:49:18.000 It's deep right there.
00:49:19.000 He's not even happy.
00:49:20.000 Not even a smile.
00:49:21.000 But in this match, Hickson was like visibly shaking.
00:49:26.000 You could see him going, what?
00:49:27.000 He's watching.
00:49:28.000 Where's this kid come out of?
00:49:30.000 I think he's from the East Coast.
00:49:32.000 I'm not sure.
00:49:32.000 But he was on that BJJ Kumite thing with Heenan Cornelius, who also did amazing at Abu Dhabi.
00:49:40.000 But anyways, back to Gary.
00:49:41.000 Dude, there's a minute left.
00:49:43.000 At this point, a minute and a half, and Kron is doing everything to try to escape.
00:49:48.000 We're watching Kron be defeated right now.
00:49:51.000 We're watching him be defeated.
00:49:52.000 After you almost had that dude's arm like five different times.
00:49:57.000 Kron's struggling.
00:49:58.000 He can't get out.
00:49:59.000 Gary Tonin's back defenses or back control is professional.
00:50:03.000 Assassin-like.
00:50:05.000 Kron cannot get out, but by the skin of his teeth... 0.73
00:50:08.000 I have to see it again.
00:50:08.000 I don't know exactly how I got out.
00:50:10.000 But he got out.
00:50:11.000 They stand up.
00:50:13.000 Hickson looks at him and goes, you got one minute.
00:50:15.000 Kron turns around, dude.
00:50:17.000 Takes him down.
00:50:18.000 Passes his guard.
00:50:19.000 It takes a while.
00:50:20.000 He gets his back.
00:50:21.000 Dude, he squoze with two seconds left.
00:50:24.000 Gary taps.
00:50:26.000 It was the craziest submission match I've ever seen.
00:50:31.000 It's really fascinating watching Kron.
00:50:33.000 For people who don't know, his dad is the greatest jiu-jitsu guy of all time.
00:50:37.000 There's one guy that's always thought of above all others.
00:50:42.000 In the world of jiu-jitsu, it's Hicks and Gracie.
00:50:43.000 You gotta have him on this podcast.
00:50:45.000 I would love to have him on.
00:50:46.000 It would be easy.
00:50:47.000 It would be simple.
00:50:48.000 He lives in Brazil now, doesn't he?
00:50:49.000 He's here, right?
00:50:50.000 I don't know.
00:50:51.000 You're right, you're right.
00:50:51.000 I don't know.
00:50:52.000 I'll figure it out.
00:50:52.000 I'll get in touch with Kron.
00:50:53.000 Dude, I would fly him in first class.
00:50:55.000 Last time I saw Kron, it was when Hoist fought Matt Hughes in L.A. Damn, that was like 07 or 06. Yeah, he was a young kid. 0.94
00:51:05.000 He was really young.
00:51:06.000 That was right after I had dinner with Hickson once.
00:51:09.000 And I went to his house and watched fights, and he broke down what people were doing wrong.
00:51:14.000 Dude, you know how crazy that is?
00:51:16.000 You went to Hickson's house, hung out with them, watched fights, and broke down fights.
00:51:21.000 I remember you telling me this.
00:51:22.000 You were telling me he broke down, because Fedor at the moment was the Mr. Indestructible.
00:51:28.000 He was on top.
00:51:29.000 Everyone feared him.
00:51:30.000 Hickson wanted to fight him.
00:51:31.000 Yeah, and he broke down how to beat Fedor in his mind, right?
00:51:36.000 Oh, yeah.
00:51:36.000 Oh, he thought he could beat Fedor.
00:51:38.000 He thinks he could beat anyone. 1.00
00:51:39.000 He's a monster. 0.99
00:51:40.000 He's a scary dude. 0.99
00:51:41.000 Well, he's a master.
00:51:43.000 He's a true master of jiu-jitsu.
00:51:45.000 And he's got that samurai mindset.
00:51:47.000 A lot of people talk that samurai mindset. 1.00
00:51:50.000 That fucking dude lives it. 1.00
00:51:51.000 That is his mindset. 1.00
00:51:52.000 Yeah, the Gracie family is very large.
00:51:54.000 And there's a lot of sections, a lot of Gracie cliques. 0.86
00:51:58.000 There's the Carlson side.
00:52:00.000 There's the Carlos side.
00:52:01.000 There's the Helio side.
00:52:02.000 The Helson side. 0.76
00:52:03.000 The Helson side. 0.76
00:52:05.000 And a lot of them hate each other. 0.99
00:52:07.000 A lot of them talk a lot of crap on each other, but Hickson, man, I don't know how many times I've heard people say, fuck that Gracie, like a Gracie saying, fuck that Gracie, or a Brazilian, or someone from the old school, like all the old school guys, 0.99
00:52:23.000 but they'll always say, except Hickson. 0.99
00:52:27.000 They tell you, except Hickson.
00:52:29.000 Like, Alan Goes, man.
00:52:30.000 Alan Goes, he has a lot of problems with people, but he makes it clear.
00:52:34.000 He goes, but Hickson's awesome.
00:52:36.000 Hickson's, because they all say it.
00:52:38.000 They all agree that although there's no roles on video, like now everyone has their roles on video.
00:52:44.000 You could catch them on YouTube.
00:52:45.000 Like, you catch Marcelo's roles all day.
00:52:47.000 The greatest jiu-jitsu player ever.
00:52:49.000 But Hickson, not too many roles.
00:52:52.000 But everyone says, it's all like myth.
00:52:55.000 It's all legend.
00:52:56.000 But you gotta believe it, because everyone says the same thing.
00:52:58.000 Even David Camarillo, when he went down there, and David Camarillo's a world-class black belt, he said he couldn't do anything with Hickson.
00:53:04.000 Yeah, even Paulo Filho said that.
00:53:05.000 Paulo Filho went down there and came back and was like, Jesus Christ.
00:53:09.000 Yeah.
00:53:10.000 He's a master.
00:53:12.000 In the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu community, Hickson is a god.
00:53:16.000 He's the best Gracie, hands down.
00:53:21.000 Yeah, so he had two sons, and one of them, Hoxson, died a few years back.
00:53:26.000 And he was already on his way to being a badass jiu-jitsu player. 0.99
00:53:30.000 And his youngest son, Kwon, over the last couple years has just become this fucking beast. 0.99
00:53:38.000 Hickson's son. 0.99
00:53:39.000 And I remember when he was 12...
00:53:41.000 Outside of a jiu-jitsu tournament, some IBJJF tournament in Dominguez State Hills here in California, me and John Jock, my master John Jock Machado, we were outside.
00:53:50.000 He was basically giving me a sermon like he always does, and everything that comes out of his mouth is gospel, and everything's perfect.
00:53:58.000 He's like a superhero.
00:54:00.000 And we're walking outside, and Kron's 12 at this time.
00:54:04.000 He's messing around on a skateboard, jumping up, doing these skateboard tricks, and John Jock looks over at him and says, That's the one right there.
00:54:11.000 I tell you, that is the one.
00:54:13.000 He's going to be unstoppable.
00:54:15.000 I'll never forget that.
00:54:16.000 He called it out.
00:54:17.000 And Jean-Jacques also, he's called out a lot of people who you thought were going to be legends.
00:54:21.000 And Jean-Jacques said, he doesn't have what it takes.
00:54:24.000 He's going to break.
00:54:25.000 And I'm like, no way, Jean-Jacques.
00:54:27.000 He's like, watch him break.
00:54:28.000 He's going to break. 0.99
00:54:29.000 And damn, he was right. 0.99
00:54:30.000 There was a couple that he called out that broke and they just disappeared. 0.98
00:54:33.000 Jean-Jacques can see things.
00:54:35.000 That's a fact.
00:54:36.000 Jean-Jacques, it really is Yoda.
00:54:38.000 And he...
00:54:40.000 He called out Kron.
00:54:42.000 He knew it.
00:54:42.000 And Kron, he is now in a select group that, man, I don't know if there's more than three or four, but he submitted everybody in his weight division.
00:54:54.000 He tapped everybody out.
00:54:56.000 And here's another Hickson story.
00:54:57.000 Well, Jean-Jacques Machado was the first to tap everyone out back in 99 or 2000. One of those Abu Dhabi's. 1.00
00:55:04.000 98, 99, Jean-Jacques Machado shows up to Abu Dhabi.
00:55:07.000 He's the first superstar.
00:55:09.000 Back then, everyone was having trouble with the submissions.
00:55:11.000 A lot of the Gi champions were having a little trouble submitting dudes without the Gi.
00:55:15.000 And the wrestlers, they didn't know how to pass the guard or submit anybody, but they could throw you around and you ain't taking them down.
00:55:20.000 A lot of boring matches in the early Abu Dhabi.
00:55:22.000 And that's why the sheet kept changing the rules, trying to work it all out.
00:55:26.000 But then the next god who came and just submitted everybody in 2003 was Marcelo Garcia.
00:55:33.000 He was the second coming of Jean-Jacques.
00:55:36.000 First that was Jean-Jacques, Marcelo Garcia.
00:55:37.000 And now, you know, there have been other guys that have...
00:55:40.000 I've had a bunch of submissions in Abu Dhabi too.
00:55:43.000 Hodger Gracie's done a tremendous job.
00:55:45.000 So many good guys out there.
00:55:46.000 But as far as coming in and just submitting everybody in your division, maybe Hodger did it too.
00:55:51.000 I don't know.
00:55:52.000 But Kron Gracie did it last weekend. 1.00
00:55:54.000 He went through everybody.
00:55:56.000 And the Gary Tonin fight, that was a close one, man.
00:56:00.000 He escaped by the skin of his teeth.
00:56:02.000 But that showed how awesome he is and how he can come back.
00:56:06.000 And in the final...
00:56:08.000 First we have Hickson, the first couple matches, he's just real chill, zen. 0.98
00:56:13.000 And then when he beat Gary Tone, you see Hickson jumping up.
00:56:18.000 I've never seen Hickson so happy.
00:56:20.000 Gary was trying to get him from the twister without actually...
00:56:24.000 He was trying to get the twister before he even got the lockdown on the back leg.
00:56:29.000 He was thinking about it early.
00:56:31.000 He was thinking about putting...
00:56:32.000 As the body triangles wrapped around him, he's thinking to grab his neck.
00:56:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:38.000 Where's this kid training out of?
00:56:39.000 Gary Tonin.
00:56:40.000 Look him up.
00:56:41.000 T-O-N-O-N. Dude, that transition where he took Kron's back is insane.
00:56:45.000 And not only...
00:56:45.000 You know what Gary Tonin did?
00:56:47.000 He ended up doing the absolute, and the first round he went against Buchecha, who won the heavyweight division, who is considered the best new heavyweight.
00:56:58.000 Dude moves like a panther.
00:57:00.000 Buchecha is... 0.99
00:57:01.000 I think his name is Marco Almeida.
00:57:05.000 Man...
00:57:06.000 Some of these Brazilians, I know them by their nickname, but their real name is hard to remember sometimes.
00:57:12.000 But Buchecha, he wins the heavyweight division.
00:57:15.000 Now he signs up for the absolute first round.
00:57:18.000 It's Gary Tonin, who's 170 pounds, against Buchecha, who just won the heavyweight.
00:57:25.000 That's the worst possible draw.
00:57:28.000 The smallest guy gets the biggest guy.
00:57:30.000 And you know what?
00:57:31.000 Buchecha couldn't tap him. 1.00
00:57:32.000 It was a good match.
00:57:34.000 I got all sorts of position on him, but Gary kept recovering and Gary kept attacking.
00:57:39.000 So he loses that right on points, but he didn't get put away.
00:57:44.000 The guy I was talking about earlier, Jared Dopp, the guy who beat Amir, he ended up beating Amir. 0.97
00:57:49.000 We were like, fuck, man, we got an unknown. 0.99
00:57:51.000 It was perfect. 1.00
00:57:52.000 We should have beat this guy.
00:57:53.000 It was a close match.
00:57:55.000 Amir had his back for a second, but didn't get points.
00:57:58.000 He had him in a Kimura, didn't get points for any of that.
00:58:00.000 And the guy took him down once and passed his guard.
00:58:04.000 And Amir lost on points.
00:58:05.000 And it was kind of a shocker.
00:58:07.000 That was the first round. 0.99
00:58:07.000 We're like, damn. 0.99
00:58:08.000 We got a guy that no one knows that we should have beat him. 1.00
00:58:12.000 Damn. 0.99
00:58:12.000 Then he gets Vinny Magalhas the next round. 0.99
00:58:15.000 Jared Dopp.
00:58:16.000 He beats Vinny!
00:58:19.000 Vinny lost?
00:58:21.000 Vinny got beat by the guy that beat Amir.
00:58:24.000 Do you think that's because Vinny's doing so much MMA? Vinny was not in shape for this.
00:58:31.000 He admitted it to me.
00:58:33.000 He didn't train very much at all.
00:58:35.000 He just couldn't turn it down.
00:58:37.000 I'm sure it had a lot to do with him getting cut by the UFC. And that really fucked with his mind for a while. 0.97
00:58:42.000 The last fight was hard. 0.99
00:58:43.000 He got knocked out with the first punch that homeboy threw.
00:58:47.000 And he never expected that.
00:58:49.000 He fought an Australian gentleman. 1.00
00:58:53.000 What the fuck's his name? 0.99
00:58:55.000 Anthony Parosh. 1.00
00:58:55.000 Anthony Parosh. 1.00
00:58:56.000 Anthony Parosh, who's a black belt in jiu-jitsu, and that's what a lot of people expected.
00:59:00.000 They thought it was going to be a jiu-jitsu versus jiu-jitsu battle.
00:59:04.000 And he caught Vinny with the first punch he threw.
00:59:06.000 He gets cut.
00:59:07.000 He's in a depressive state.
00:59:09.000 He's not really training hard for Abu Dhabi.
00:59:11.000 And Jared Dopp beat him.
00:59:13.000 He's from Rafael Lovato's camp.
00:59:15.000 He's a purple belt.
00:59:16.000 That's incredible.
00:59:16.000 Yeah, so he's just an incredible specimen.
00:59:19.000 So he gets cyborg next.
00:59:21.000 He gets cyborg next.
00:59:23.000 And he is winning.
00:59:25.000 He's beating him.
00:59:26.000 All he's got to do is survive for 30 more seconds.
00:59:29.000 He would have beat Amir Alam, the top 10 planet heavyweight.
00:59:33.000 Vinny Magalhães, who won the gold medal in the Absolute in 2011, and then Cyborg!
00:59:39.000 He was going to beat Cyborg!
00:59:41.000 But at the very end, Cyborg pulled it off, and he impressed the shit out of me.
00:59:46.000 Cyborg ended up winning.
00:59:48.000 He ended up getting third in his weight.
00:59:51.000 Bouchesha won.
00:59:52.000 And in the Absolute, Cyborg took it all.
00:59:55.000 He beat Bouchesha in the finals.
00:59:57.000 What did Cyborg catch him with?
00:59:59.000 He beat him on points.
01:00:01.000 Oh, catch you away.
01:00:01.000 No, just points.
01:00:03.000 So he was losing until the last few minutes?
01:00:06.000 Yeah, Jared Dopp was beating him on points.
01:00:08.000 And then I forget how it went down.
01:00:11.000 Again, there was 50 matches.
01:00:13.000 But all I remember, Cyborg came back at the very end and Jared...
01:00:16.000 Dopp couldn't hold on.
01:00:18.000 He had it.
01:00:18.000 He just couldn't hold on.
01:00:20.000 And Cyborg pulled it out of his ass. 1.00
01:00:21.000 Got some points. 1.00
01:00:22.000 I think he took his back or something.
01:00:23.000 Got some good points and barely pulled it off.
01:00:26.000 He was...
01:00:27.000 I mean, and then Jared Dopp did the absolute.
01:00:30.000 And he beats his first guy and maybe a second guy and then he gets hurt.
01:00:34.000 He has to bow out.
01:00:36.000 His shoulder shirt.
01:00:37.000 He was going to get a rematch with Cyborg in the absolute.
01:00:40.000 Wow.
01:00:41.000 But, you know, since he couldn't go...
01:00:43.000 Gary Tonin, 170-pounder, who lost against Bushesh, who gave him a great match, they call him and go, dude, you're in. 0.99
01:00:51.000 And he's like, oh, shit. 0.89
01:00:52.000 So now he's going against Cyborg, who's like 240 pounds of pure leopard. 1.00
01:00:58.000 You know what I mean?
01:00:59.000 Like Tiger. 0.69
01:01:00.000 Yeah, he's built like a brick shithouse.
01:01:02.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:03.000 There's videos of him training strength and conditioning online.
01:01:05.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:01:06.000 Pushing sledge and shit. 0.99
01:01:08.000 And you know what? 1.00
01:01:09.000 Gary Tonin looked great, man.
01:01:11.000 He was given cyborg fits.
01:01:13.000 That guy's going to be a superstar.
01:01:15.000 Really?
01:01:15.000 Mark my words, yes.
01:01:16.000 Just remember Gary Tonin.
01:01:17.000 Cyborg being that big and he must be, how young is this kid?
01:01:21.000 21. Wow.
01:01:23.000 Strong as shit. 1.00
01:01:24.000 That's amazing. 1.00
01:01:25.000 Yeah.
01:01:26.000 He's not even a big guy.
01:01:27.000 I looked at the video of him and Kron.
01:01:28.000 He looks like a normal-sized guy.
01:01:31.000 He's out of control.
01:01:32.000 And he plays... 1.00
01:01:33.000 His best shit is part of the same style that I play. 1.00
01:01:38.000 Gary Tonin plays a lot of prison guard. 1.00
01:01:40.000 I don't know if he calls it prison guard.
01:01:41.000 That's just what I named it.
01:01:42.000 But it's like a head and arm from the bottom.
01:01:47.000 It's basically a Greco-Roman full guard game.
01:01:51.000 I call it prison guard.
01:01:53.000 There's no name for it.
01:01:53.000 He's a brown belt.
01:01:54.000 Yeah.
01:01:55.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:01:56.000 Oh, the way he got Kron's back, the way he got it was through prison guard.
01:02:01.000 And again, it's not something that I'm sure he names it, but it's something that I named.
01:02:06.000 And it's a head and arm from the bottom, and you squeeze on it and you shuck that arm that's caught in between your arms.
01:02:14.000 You shuck it over your head.
01:02:15.000 You've got to get really good at that.
01:02:17.000 And you can go right to the back, or you could transition to a swim move to spiderweb, or if you can't shuck the arm over your head, you could transition right into rubber guard beautifully, or you could put the far side butterfly in and get some sweep, so it's a very, very strong position.
01:02:33.000 The actual position, the whole style I call prison guard, but the actual position is called homie control, and homie control is the mission control of prison guard. 0.89
01:02:43.000 So I play it all the time, all the time, and Watching Gary Tonin go to it over and over.
01:02:50.000 Did it to Cyborg.
01:02:52.000 Cyborg was too big.
01:02:53.000 It didn't really work on him.
01:02:54.000 And then he did it on Bushesha.
01:02:56.000 He kept trying.
01:02:57.000 I don't know if Prison Guard's going to work on a guy that has 100 pounds on you or something.
01:03:01.000 But he kept going to it.
01:03:03.000 So look out for Gary Tonin.
01:03:06.000 Yeah, it sounds like a kid's a beast.
01:03:07.000 I love that.
01:03:08.000 I love with all these new dudes are just coming up out of nowhere.
01:03:11.000 You know, that's one of the cool things about jujitsu is that there's so many guys out there practicing it now.
01:03:16.000 I think someone, it's about time for someone to put it on TV. I think one of these days they're gonna figure out a format or the guy's gonna get talented enough or scary enough.
01:03:27.000 Where you're going to be able to put it on TV, and it'll be something that could be on...
01:03:30.000 I think about that all the time, and I've had invest...
01:03:34.000 I have a show that it's a concept.
01:03:36.000 We had financial backers that were interested, and then they back out.
01:03:41.000 We had a couple other more that were interested, and they back out.
01:03:43.000 They're not sure, but the whole goal of mine with this show is a 16-man tournament.
01:03:47.000 The whole goal is entertainment value, and everything is designed to score.
01:03:52.000 It's a submission-only format.
01:03:53.000 There's a few different ways you can go with submission-only, but the way...
01:03:56.000 Everything in my mind was all designed to create urgency for the submission.
01:04:03.000 Like, for example, the ultimate urgency would be a submission-only match between two guys and the winner gets $1 billion, the loser gets nothing.
01:04:12.000 Can you imagine the urgency of that?
01:04:15.000 And how exciting that match would be.
01:04:17.000 Yeah, obviously you don't really mean a billion dollars.
01:04:18.000 No, no, but I'm just saying, that's an example.
01:04:21.000 If you could give them a billion, that would be great.
01:04:22.000 But let's say realistically, in 50 years, 100 years, 2 years, jiu-jitsu is mainstream.
01:04:28.000 There's like some reality show about jiu-jitsu and it gets so big and people love it.
01:04:32.000 But we have to figure out the right format first to make sure that there's a lot of excitement.
01:04:38.000 Because right now, you know, you go to jiu-jitsu tournaments, there's nobody there.
01:04:41.000 The only people in the stands are the actual competitors and their girlfriends. 0.95
01:04:44.000 And maybe their moms.
01:04:46.000 We've been having these world championships forever.
01:04:48.000 Nobody's going to see it because the point system is developed to satisfy the competitor.
01:04:55.000 Well, it's a little bit of that, but it's also just that it hasn't been introduced right.
01:04:58.000 Yeah.
01:04:58.000 It hasn't been introduced at all.
01:04:59.000 You know, now that Spike is starting to put Glory on, like the highest level kickboxing, they're putting that on TV. I think one of these days someone's going to realize that, watch like that Kron Gracie-Gary Tonin fight, that kind of a match is very exciting.
01:05:12.000 Let's say that, okay, realistically, 50 years or whatever, jiu-jitsu is mainstream.
01:05:17.000 You could do a show where there's a 16-man tournament, submission only, and the winner, one winner only, it's just like any kind of reality show, one winner gets $100,000.
01:05:29.000 Cash.
01:05:30.000 Or whatever.
01:05:30.000 That's not that unrealistic.
01:05:32.000 Can you imagine the excitement of those matches?
01:05:35.000 You have a good matchmaker.
01:05:37.000 You don't just throw people together.
01:05:39.000 But the amount of urgency that there is going to be for the submission.
01:05:44.000 The training would be totally different.
01:05:46.000 People would be specifically training their setups to these submissions.
01:05:50.000 It would be all about the submission.
01:05:51.000 Right now, these guys...
01:05:54.000 Getting the W and winning by points is all that's necessary.
01:05:57.000 So guys are specifically training for the points system.
01:06:01.000 And I'm guilty of it too.
01:06:02.000 I mean, if that's the format, I understand because I do the same thing with Amir Alam.
01:06:09.000 He wrestled his whole life.
01:06:10.000 He's one of my brown belts, but he's a wrestler through and through.
01:06:13.000 So we were going to go in and just say, you're a wrestler.
01:06:16.000 He worked on his wrestling.
01:06:17.000 Let's beat these guys by the points system.
01:06:19.000 Let's get that W. I was doing that.
01:06:21.000 I'm not like this...
01:06:22.000 You're forced to think like that based on the system because you want the W so bad.
01:06:27.000 So, I'm guilty of it too.
01:06:29.000 We wanted to wrestle Jared Dock.
01:06:31.000 So, you know, you make it a 16-man tournament, 8-man tournament, you make it a reality show, submission only, one guy gets $100,000.
01:06:41.000 It's a good idea.
01:06:42.000 You know, if you did a million, that would even be crazier.
01:06:44.000 The matches would be nuts.
01:06:46.000 Well, yeah, all you'd have to do is just have guys who are really good, who are going for submissions and going after it, and it would be a really exciting sport. 0.98
01:06:53.000 A lot more exciting than a lot of shit that is on TV. People just don't know about it. 0.97
01:06:58.000 They're just not used to it.
01:06:59.000 It could be done.
01:07:00.000 Someone like the Sheik, you know, could figure out how to do it. 1.00
01:07:04.000 Yeah, you know, and there's a lot of people that look into jiu-jitsu and then they watch a match and go, fuck this, this is boring.
01:07:10.000 The way the gi sport is turning into now, it's like I'm a black belt in the gi and I look at the new stuff, I don't even know who's on top. 0.93
01:07:18.000 I have no idea who's winning.
01:07:20.000 They're playing tug-of-war with the pants and they're in this mangled, tangled position that I don't even know who has the advantage.
01:07:26.000 Someone got an advantage for a near sweep?
01:07:29.000 I go, who did?
01:07:30.000 I'm confused. 0.99
01:07:30.000 One of the things I want to ask you about Kron, he doesn't do any new shit. 0.99
01:07:34.000 Like, everything he does is old-school jujitsu, old-school Hicks and Gracie style, the, you know, that real basic set of techniques and just, it just gets him laser sharp. 0.87
01:07:49.000 That's all he does.
01:07:50.000 Yeah, he has an incredible rear naked choke and even more insane We're good to go. 0.90
01:08:14.000 To get inside Kron's head. 0.92
01:08:16.000 And the way he's going to do that is keep staying away from him, not engage, slap him on the neck, push him away, frustrate him, because all Kron wants is submission.
01:08:26.000 He's like Marcelo Garcia.
01:08:27.000 He just goes forward.
01:08:29.000 The submission is on Kron's mind.
01:08:31.000 Right. 0.94
01:08:31.000 You know, for damn sure. 0.94
01:08:32.000 That's what he wants. 0.96
01:08:33.000 And he kept going forward.
01:08:36.000 Oteva keeps pushing him away. 1.00
01:08:37.000 Oteva's a bad motherfucker. 1.00
01:08:38.000 He got pushed. 1.00
01:08:39.000 He beat Lido Vieira.
01:08:40.000 I mean, he's legit.
01:08:41.000 One of the best.
01:08:42.000 And he actually, they went against each other in Metamorris.
01:08:45.000 And Kron beat him in the gi.
01:08:46.000 He armbarred him.
01:08:47.000 It was an epic match.
01:08:48.000 And the match before that at the Worlds, Octavio won.
01:08:52.000 So Metamorris was a rematch.
01:08:53.000 He got revenge.
01:08:54.000 Now the rubber match in Abu Dhabi, in the final.
01:08:57.000 He's smacking his head and Kron's looking over at the ref going, you know, what is he doing?
01:09:02.000 Just smacking my neck and he keeps walking backwards.
01:09:04.000 I understood what Octavia was doing.
01:09:06.000 He was trying to frustrate him, get inside his head, and it was working.
01:09:09.000 He was getting pissed off, but you know what?
01:09:10.000 It was also working on Hickson, too.
01:09:13.000 Hickson said, and this is according—I didn't hear it personally, but this is according to what I heard the reporters.
01:09:21.000 It's all over the internet.
01:09:22.000 So I may be wrong, but it appears to be correct based on the reports I read that— Hickson was, at first, he was like telling the ref, he keeps going backwards.
01:09:33.000 He's not engaging.
01:09:33.000 He keeps going backwards.
01:09:34.000 He doesn't even want to fight.
01:09:36.000 And then he said, he's chicken, he's chicken.
01:09:38.000 And then he starts making chicken noises.
01:09:40.000 He's like...
01:09:40.000 Can you imagine Hickson doing that?
01:09:45.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:09:46.000 You know what that tells you, man?
01:09:48.000 You know, there's some people out there that don't understand that, but as a father...
01:09:53.000 I understand it.
01:09:55.000 I do.
01:09:56.000 It's like, that's your son.
01:09:57.000 You're going to make sure...
01:09:58.000 Like, if my son murdered somebody, I'm going to shelter him.
01:10:02.000 I'm going to hide him.
01:10:03.000 You know what I'm saying?
01:10:04.000 You shouldn't talk about that on the podcast.
01:10:06.000 No, what I'm saying is, you do anything for your kids.
01:10:10.000 I know what you're saying.
01:10:10.000 Even doing, making chicken noises that could easily make you seem like you're childish.
01:10:18.000 Right.
01:10:18.000 But he don't care.
01:10:19.000 All he cares about...
01:10:20.000 He's very macho.
01:10:21.000 He was willing to do anything it took to make Octavio engage.
01:10:25.000 And it worked.
01:10:26.000 He engaged, took a shot, Krohn guillotined him.
01:10:29.000 The fastest guillotine ever.
01:10:30.000 Soon as he took him down, Krohn sat down, boom.
01:10:32.000 It was over.
01:10:34.000 Man, I don't know if it's online, but it was over like...
01:10:37.000 In three seconds, or less.
01:10:38.000 Less than three seconds.
01:10:39.000 Boom! 0.99
01:10:40.000 He won the world championship.
01:10:41.000 Submitted everybody.
01:10:43.000 That's amazing.
01:10:44.000 It's just amazing when you hear about a guy who's the son of the great master, like the greatest master ever.
01:10:49.000 It's almost like a movie, you know?
01:10:52.000 And when he was young, you know, I remember hanging out with him over at Hickson's house, you know?
01:10:58.000 He was just like a young kid. 0.99
01:10:59.000 He was talking about rap music and shit. 0.99
01:11:02.000 Of course he trained jiu-jitsu. 0.99
01:11:04.000 He loved jiu-jitsu.
01:11:04.000 He loved the fact that his dad was this, you know, I mean, can you imagine if that's your dad?
01:11:08.000 He's the greatest jiu-jitsu guy of all time. 0.99
01:11:11.000 He's got to be the coolest shit ever. 0.98
01:11:12.000 And he's currently the baddest guy at Abu Dhabi, for damn sure. 0.99
01:11:16.000 It's amazing. 0.89
01:11:16.000 And he's young, too. 0.89
01:11:17.000 And you know what?
01:11:18.000 No homo or anything, but that guy, he's a beautiful man. 0.97
01:11:22.000 Absolutely, man.
01:11:23.000 Well, his wife was beautiful. 0.68
01:11:24.000 Hickson's wife was beautiful. 0.98
01:11:26.000 Hickson's beautiful.
01:11:26.000 Yeah, Hickson married some supermodel back in the day, and they had a bunch of kids.
01:11:30.000 And all their kids, even Hoxon, and their daughters, they all have perfect little model faces in their tan.
01:11:36.000 He could easily be a movie star.
01:11:38.000 They're models as kids, like Abercrombie and Fitch models.
01:11:41.000 Well, when he was in that documentary, Choke, that documentary, it's really unfortunate that that didn't become a huge documentary.
01:11:50.000 Because even people who don't appreciate martial arts, who just want to watch something interesting like...
01:11:56.000 People keep telling me about the sushi documentary, Janjiro Dreams of Sushi or whatever the fuck it's called.
01:12:01.000 It's supposed to be amazing about a guy who's like really into sushi. 0.67
01:12:04.000 But I'm not into sushi.
01:12:06.000 I'm not dying to be a sushi chef.
01:12:09.000 I hate it.
01:12:09.000 But even if you have no aspirations towards martial arts, Choke is an amazing documentary.
01:12:16.000 Because it follows this guy who's just...
01:12:18.000 He's legit.
01:12:21.000 He's legit masterful in everything he does.
01:12:24.000 I mean, the dude is a... 0.99
01:12:25.000 He's meditating in the fucking freezing icy rivers of Japan. 0.99
01:12:30.000 He gets underwater up to his neck and he's... 1.00
01:12:33.000 He's doing his meditation, practicing, and doing yoga where he does this weird shit with his stomach. 0.99
01:12:40.000 It's cool when a guy like that exists, when there really is a bad motherfucker, like a real, mystical, sort of a shaman, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu master who's better than everybody else. 0.99
01:12:53.000 And that reminds me of the most surreal moment of my Jiu Jitsu career, man, was at Abu Dhabi at the first weigh-in. 0.96
01:13:00.000 Hickson comes up to me and says, hey, Eddie, how you doing?
01:13:03.000 He shook my hand.
01:13:04.000 My head almost exploded.
01:13:06.000 I couldn't believe...
01:13:07.000 Him saying Eddie was very strange, dude.
01:13:11.000 It was strange.
01:13:12.000 That he knew who you were?
01:13:13.000 Yeah.
01:13:13.000 Because, you know, Cron and Jean-Jacques are real tight.
01:13:17.000 Jean-Jacques is now a coral belt under Hickson Gracie.
01:13:21.000 So Hickson Gracie is Jean-Jacques' master now.
01:13:23.000 And he used to be Gracie Bahan under Carlinos and all that.
01:13:26.000 But now he's under Hickson...
01:13:29.000 And Jean-Jacques has always been tight with Kron.
01:13:31.000 That's how he had that insight.
01:13:33.000 That's how he knew he was going to be a champion, the champion that he is.
01:13:37.000 So Jean-Jacques brought Kron over to my gym maybe two weeks ago.
01:13:41.000 And that was the first time I ever got to hang out with Kron and train with him.
01:13:45.000 And it was pretty amazing to have Hickson's son there.
01:13:49.000 Anytime I have a Gracie there with me that I could talk to, I always want to remind them that there's a big misconception about what 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu is all about.
01:14:01.000 To someone who really doesn't know and hasn't done the research, it's easy to kind of see or easy to believe that I turned my back on jujitsu once I got my black belt.
01:14:14.000 I threw the gi away. 0.87
01:14:15.000 I'm disrespectful to the gi.
01:14:17.000 Nobody understands this if they don't follow jujitsu, but there's two camps of jujitsu.
01:14:22.000 There's people who train with a gi, this big bulky kimono thing.
01:14:26.000 And there's no gi, which is mostly guys wear rash guards or shorts, and they're training basically techniques that would work in mixed martial arts.
01:14:33.000 Because of the fact that the gi is this big piece of cloth, people grab it and hold onto it, and it really changes the entire nature of grappling.
01:14:44.000 It changes everything because you have all these handles that you can hold onto.
01:14:47.000 It becomes really annoying.
01:14:49.000 Yeah, and a majority of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu community, they really like the gi, and I understand that.
01:14:55.000 It's like liking longboards, and you're a surfer, and some people like shortboards.
01:15:00.000 No gi would be like the shortboard, and longboard would be like the gi.
01:15:02.000 It's really traditional.
01:15:03.000 It looks cool.
01:15:04.000 You grow up, and you see these karate movies, and you want to wear that gi, and you strap that black belt on, and you got a gi.
01:15:09.000 You feel like a superhero, because that black belt is real. 0.99
01:15:12.000 I get it.
01:15:13.000 I understand.
01:15:14.000 But...
01:15:17.000 I got into jujitsu because of the UFC. I became a fanatic of the UFC. And jujitsu is the closest thing I could do to be kind of close to the sport and understand the sport without getting hit in the face.
01:15:30.000 I don't like boxing.
01:15:32.000 I don't like kickboxing.
01:15:32.000 I don't want to get hit.
01:15:33.000 But jujitsu is awesome.
01:15:35.000 It's safe.
01:15:36.000 All you're doing is practicing strangling each other and getting really good at that and practicing breaking limbs.
01:15:41.000 Who doesn't want to learn that?
01:15:42.000 Anybody can learn that.
01:15:43.000 And you don't get hurt, no one's punching you.
01:15:45.000 I was sold right when I saw the UFC. It was a way for me to be close to the UFC, the sport that I worship now.
01:15:53.000 So when I see jujitsu black belts in the UFC, Great with the Gi, but all of a sudden they're fighting in the UFC without a Gi, and now they don't have their handles, and dudes are trying to punch them, and their elbows and all that stuff.
01:16:08.000 To me, I thought the Gi was the problem. 0.67
01:16:10.000 Jiu-Jitsu wasn't looking that good in the UFC, man, in those dark ages.
01:16:14.000 Like UFC 17 to...
01:16:17.000 Even today, overall, the jiu-jitsu, I think, could be a lot better if everyone focused on jiu-jitsu techniques that worked specifically when dudes are trying to punch you or elbow you and there's no handles.
01:16:30.000 It's different.
01:16:31.000 So anyways, I loved jiu-jitsu so much that I was tired of being in...
01:16:36.000 Let down by never seeing, you rarely see sweeps in the UFC. You go to a jiu-jitsu class or a jiu-jitsu tournament where they're wearing a gi, you see sweeps and submissions off your back from the guard when you're on your back all the time.
01:16:49.000 But why weren't you seeing it in the UFC? I go, you rarely see sweeps and even today when you see a good quality sweep, it's woo, it's a highlight reel.
01:16:58.000 That was an amazing sweep.
01:16:59.000 But in the gi, they happen all the time and submissions off the back happen all the time.
01:17:03.000 The difference is, it's just common sense.
01:17:05.000 In the gi, you don't have to worry about dudes elbowing you, and you've got all these handles, and you develop all these techniques based on pulling the collar and holding on the sleeve, and that becomes your fighting stance.
01:17:15.000 If that's your fighting stance, and all of a sudden you do MMA, and the fighting stance is totally different, you're clinching now because you don't want to get knocked out.
01:17:24.000 You've got to focus on that.
01:17:26.000 So for me, I thought, man, if I ever opened up a school, I never liked the Gi to begin with. 0.72
01:17:31.000 Personally, I'd rather train no Gi. 0.57
01:17:34.000 It's faster.
01:17:35.000 I like it faster.
01:17:36.000 I have no problems with the Gi.
01:17:38.000 A lot of my students still train in the Gi.
01:17:39.000 Personally, it's just too slow for me.
01:17:41.000 I need it to be faster.
01:17:42.000 So when I have...
01:17:45.000 So a lot of people in the jiu-jitsu community think that I turn my back on jiu-jitsu.
01:17:49.000 Man, nothing could be further from the truth.
01:17:51.000 I don't think anybody really thinks so.
01:17:52.000 No, no.
01:17:53.000 There's just a bunch of haters out there.
01:17:55.000 There's people that hate no matter what you do, man.
01:17:57.000 There's no need to focus on them.
01:17:59.000 No, I just wanted to make it clear.
01:18:01.000 And when Kron came to my school two weeks ago, I made it clear to him, I'm like...
01:18:05.000 I just want to let you know that I have all the respect in the world for the Gracies. 0.93
01:18:09.000 Anybody that thinks I don't is ridiculous.
01:18:11.000 In my first book that came out in 2005, it opens up with a paragraph or two on each Gracie and thanking them for creating me and creating the sport and the UFC. That's like 10 years ago.
01:18:24.000 It's not anything that I'm trying to do damage control now or anything.
01:18:28.000 I just wanted to put that out there.
01:18:31.000 You don't have to put that out there, man.
01:18:33.000 Nobody believes that.
01:18:34.000 Hey, what did you think about the UFC this weekend?
01:18:37.000 Incredible.
01:18:37.000 Was that the craziest UFC ever?
01:18:39.000 Yeah, it was going on right when Abu Dhabi was going on.
01:18:41.000 It was going on at Saturday or Sunday morning.
01:18:47.000 Was it Sunday morning?
01:18:48.000 And it was Saturday morning here or something like that.
01:18:50.000 It was weird.
01:18:52.000 So I didn't get to see it live.
01:18:53.000 And I don't think it was possible to see it live.
01:18:55.000 We ended up seeing it the next day.
01:18:58.000 Amir and Scott Palmer, another one of my students who went, they figured out how to find it somewhere online.
01:19:04.000 Oh, so you watched it online?
01:19:06.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:19:06.000 The Diego Sanchez-Gilbert Melendez fight was the craziest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. 0.99
01:19:11.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:19:11.000 It was madness, especially that third round. 0.99
01:19:14.000 Goddamn, that was incredible. 0.98
01:19:15.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:19:16.000 They just went off.
01:19:17.000 They just went after it in a way like you very rarely see.
01:19:20.000 And for Diego to drop Gilbert Melendez with that uppercut, after all that damage he was taking, Yeah.
01:19:28.000 Man, we saw some serious heart that night.
01:19:30.000 I mean, Junior Dos Santos.
01:19:31.000 Talk about heart.
01:19:32.000 Yeah.
01:19:33.000 Jesus Christ.
01:19:34.000 Yeah, Diego Sanchez is a special dude.
01:19:37.000 His belief in himself and his ability to absorb punishment is craziness.
01:19:43.000 He just bites down his mouthpiece and he doesn't do a lot of slipping and moving.
01:19:46.000 You know, he's taking a lot of them and just charging forward.
01:19:50.000 He loves it.
01:19:51.000 He's so crazy.
01:19:52.000 He had a giant cut over his eye, man. 0.99
01:19:54.000 It was bigger than his eyebrow.
01:19:56.000 It was like the size of his eyebrow.
01:19:57.000 It was enormous. 0.99
01:19:58.000 There was a whole wild fucking event. 0.99
01:20:01.000 Did you see Hector Lombard and Nate Marquardt? 0.99
01:20:03.000 Yes. 1.00
01:20:03.000 Holy shit. 1.00
01:20:05.000 At 170, Hector Lombard's gonna give... 0.99
01:20:08.000 He'll give anybody fits.
01:20:09.000 I could see him...
01:20:10.000 He could be the champ.
01:20:11.000 Yeah, easily.
01:20:11.000 Easily.
01:20:12.000 Yeah, he's terrifying.
01:20:13.000 At 170, he's a freak athlete, man.
01:20:16.000 Would GSP be able to take him down?
01:20:18.000 I don't know, man.
01:20:20.000 I don't know.
01:20:20.000 He's a freak athlete.
01:20:22.000 I use that term a lot, freak athlete, but Hector Lombard really is a freak.
01:20:26.000 And at 170, that may be the strongest 170 that's ever existed ever. 0.98
01:20:31.000 He hit so fucking hard. 0.63
01:20:33.000 Dude, he chased down Nate Marquardt, who was a Strikeforce former champion, okay? 0.98
01:20:38.000 Nate Marquardt was the Strikeforce welterweight champion.
01:20:40.000 And Hector Lombard chased him around like he was some kid that he was gonna assault.
01:20:45.000 I mean, it was amazing.
01:20:48.000 Almost like he had no worry whatsoever about Nate Marquardt's techniques.
01:20:53.000 Just ran after him.
01:20:55.000 Ran after him.
01:20:56.000 Kept throwing bombs at him.
01:20:58.000 And that last shot, did you see what it did to Nate's body? 0.98
01:21:02.000 It made him kind of like hop and land on his butt.
01:21:04.000 His legs slipped out from under him.
01:21:06.000 He was kind of running away and he got one of those uppercuts from behind.
01:21:12.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.94
01:21:13.000 And then, boom, it lifted him up and he landed right on his butt. 0.94
01:21:15.000 It was pretty crazy. 0.90
01:21:16.000 It was horrific. 1.00
01:21:17.000 Yeah, he fucked him up, man. 1.00
01:21:19.000 It was spooky. 0.99
01:21:20.000 I didn't know that he was going to be able to do that.
01:21:22.000 I mean, I knew that he...
01:21:23.000 Jake Ellenberger and Nate Marquardt had a real tough fight, and Nate got knocked out, but they were going after each other, you know?
01:21:32.000 I mean, Nate was going after him, too.
01:21:34.000 It was a real...
01:21:35.000 He got caught with a big shot by Ellenberger, and Ellenberger could take anybody out, but it was competitive up until that.
01:21:42.000 This was not competitive.
01:21:43.000 This was a mugging.
01:21:45.000 I mean, he just came after Nate Marquardt. 0.96
01:21:47.000 Nate Marquardt tried to counter him a couple of times with right hands, but mostly he was just trying to get the fuck out of the way. 0.98
01:21:52.000 And that dude just came at him like a monster. 0.94
01:21:55.000 It was weird.
01:21:57.000 He's ridiculously strong.
01:21:59.000 Yeah.
01:22:00.000 This is a scary dude at 170 pounds.
01:22:02.000 I want immediately to see matches with him against, like, Carlos Kahn did.
01:22:06.000 Immediately to see him against guys like Johnny Hendricks or George C.A.P. or whoever wins the title.
01:22:12.000 According to Eric Paulson, I had him on my podcast, he's telling me some Hector Lombard stories.
01:22:18.000 Man, the guy is intense 24-7.
01:22:22.000 The guy in the gym wants to throw down.
01:22:24.000 Him and Josh Barnett threw down at least once.
01:22:28.000 Yeah, Josh told me about it.
01:22:29.000 Josh mounted him and would never let him up.
01:22:32.000 He was just beating on him.
01:22:33.000 He wouldn't let him up.
01:22:34.000 Apparently he had an issue with something Lombard did to someone else in the gym.
01:22:39.000 So Josh and him just went after it.
01:22:41.000 Josh said the guy's a freak athlete.
01:22:42.000 He said he does those muscle-ups, you know those things where you do a chin-up and then you push up from the top?
01:22:48.000 Yeah.
01:22:48.000 They're really hard to do.
01:22:49.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:22:50.000 This motherfucker just, he'd never done it before. 1.00
01:22:52.000 He banged out like ten in a row. 0.99
01:22:55.000 I don't think I'll ever be able to do one.
01:22:58.000 He's a freak athlete.
01:22:59.000 When you look at his body, he's 5'7 and 5'7 wide.
01:23:04.000 He's probably about 5'9.
01:23:07.000 He's probably a little taller than me, you think?
01:23:09.000 I don't know.
01:23:09.000 My height or 5'8.
01:23:10.000 Either my height or maybe slightly taller.
01:23:13.000 I'm 5'8.
01:23:14.000 But he's twice as wide as me.
01:23:17.000 I'm pretty wide.
01:23:18.000 He might be literally a foot wider than me.
01:23:20.000 Yeah, I think...
01:23:22.000 It's an illusion.
01:23:23.000 He might be 5'10", but his lats are so wide in his shoulders that it appears that he's 5'4".
01:23:29.000 He's so wide!
01:23:30.000 I've never seen a dude his height that wide before. 1.00
01:23:33.000 And the power that motherfucker has. 1.00
01:23:36.000 God damn, it's scary. 1.00
01:23:39.000 Scary. 0.99
01:23:40.000 And just ultimate confidence in his ability to knock guys out.
01:23:44.000 Ultimate confidence.
01:23:45.000 As he charged in on Nate, he knew it was a matter of time.
01:23:49.000 It was weird.
01:23:50.000 It was weird to watch.
01:23:51.000 I never thought I'd watch Nate get steamrolled like that.
01:23:53.000 You think about Nate.
01:23:54.000 Nate fought Anderson Silva.
01:23:55.000 It was a decent fight until Anderson reversed him on the ground and beat him up and stopped him.
01:24:01.000 But it was a decent fight before that.
01:24:02.000 Nate fought Tyron Woodley and knocked him out. 1.00
01:24:05.000 I mean, Nate is a bad motherfucker. 0.99
01:24:07.000 He's a really good fighter. 1.00
01:24:08.000 Think of all the guys he's knocked out.
01:24:09.000 He knocked out Martin Campman. 0.99
01:24:12.000 Nate Marquardt's no fucking joke. 0.98
01:24:14.000 He's been around a long-ass time, too. 0.99
01:24:16.000 He's really fucking good. 0.97
01:24:17.000 Lombard's got that Hendricks power. 0.99
01:24:19.000 Just boom.
01:24:20.000 But he's got it in both hands.
01:24:21.000 Yeah.
01:24:22.000 He's just terrifying.
01:24:23.000 Terrifying.
01:24:24.000 Lombard's terrifying. 1.00
01:24:26.000 He might be the motherfucker at 170, man. 1.00
01:24:28.000 He really might be. 1.00
01:24:29.000 Yes, he might be.
01:24:30.000 These guys, man, sometimes it's just a matter of making that weight.
01:24:34.000 Getting down to the weight class.
01:24:36.000 Look at Damian Maia at 170, you know?
01:24:38.000 But then Jake Shields beat him, which is crazy.
01:24:41.000 It could have went either way.
01:24:42.000 Yeah, it was a, I think, one of those fights that easily could be a draw.
01:24:46.000 You could decide who wins, but Maia didn't tap him. 0.99
01:24:49.000 You know, a lot of people were saying that Maia was going to dominate him the way he dominated Rick's story.
01:24:53.000 No.
01:24:53.000 People forget how good a rapper Jake Shields is.
01:24:56.000 Yeah.
01:24:56.000 He never really got close to any submissions.
01:24:59.000 And Jake, he's probably top three, if not the best, passer in MMA. His passing is incredible.
01:25:11.000 Him and Sean Shirk, incredible passing.
01:25:13.000 And Jake almost passed so many times.
01:25:16.000 God!
01:25:16.000 And to have that kind of confidence to try to pass Maya's guard, most wrestlers will just say, okay, in this fight you get on top, don't even try to pass.
01:25:24.000 But Jake kept trying to pass.
01:25:26.000 And even though he didn't quite make it, it was very impressive that he had the confidence to keep pushing and keep trying to pass.
01:25:34.000 And Damien Maya really couldn't do anything off his back against Jake.
01:25:37.000 Jake's used to having guys attack him, you know, serious guys off their back.
01:25:41.000 So, man...
01:25:43.000 That was a very, very close fight.
01:25:45.000 I thought they would give it to Maia because it was in Brazil.
01:25:48.000 I thought Jake's really going to have to beat him decisively to get it in Brazil.
01:25:52.000 But that wasn't the case after all.
01:25:54.000 So congratulations to Jake.
01:25:56.000 Yeah, that was a big win for him because Maia was on the verge of a title shot. 1.00
01:26:00.000 After the Rick Story fight, after beating John Fitch, John Fitch, John Fitch, and then beat Rick Story like that, a lot of people were like, Jesus Christ, this guy might be the best grappler in the division.
01:26:10.000 No one can stop him.
01:26:12.000 So Jake wins that fight, derails his title hopes.
01:26:15.000 There's just so many good fighters now, man.
01:26:17.000 It's crazy.
01:26:18.000 Robbie Lawler is about to fight Rory McDonald. 0.99
01:26:21.000 How fucking crazy is that fight going to be? 0.98
01:26:23.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98
01:26:24.000 Robbie Lawler at 170. There's another one at 170. It's fucking terrifying.
01:26:29.000 He's absolutely terrifying at 170. Did you see Amagov and TJ Wahlberger? 1.00
01:26:36.000 Yeah.
01:26:37.000 Robbie Lawler knocked out Amagov with a flying knee.
01:26:40.000 That's how scary Robbie Lawler is.
01:26:43.000 I'll never forget Dana White at the Comedy Store years ago.
01:26:46.000 Telling you about Robbie Lawler for the first time.
01:26:48.000 I got this kid Robbie Lawler, man.
01:26:50.000 This guy can knock you out with both hands.
01:26:52.000 I remember hearing that, and then he brought him up.
01:26:55.000 He did well in the beginning, and then he started fighting for Strikeforce.
01:27:00.000 He was fighting at 85. He shouldn't have been fighting in 85. He should have been fighting at 170 the whole time.
01:27:05.000 But he also needed to mature, come into his own.
01:27:09.000 You know, he's like 30 now.
01:27:10.000 And now he's like a real legit professional.
01:27:13.000 You know, he fights smart.
01:27:15.000 He doesn't just wing punches at guys, but he does still wing punches at guys. 0.98
01:27:19.000 He's got a serious fucking chin, and he goes after guys. 0.98
01:27:23.000 When is that fight? 1.00
01:27:23.000 That's November. 1.00
01:27:24.000 That's the George St. Pierre undercard. 1.00
01:27:26.000 Damn! 0.99
01:27:29.000 Good googly moogly! 1.00
01:27:31.000 Dude, Roy McDonald and...
01:27:36.000 I mean, think about that camp, that TriStar camp.
01:27:38.000 Roy McDonald, GSP, he got so many good guys out of that camp, that Francis Carmon guy. 1.00
01:27:43.000 But Robbie Lawler's a motherfucker. 0.99
01:27:45.000 I don't know who's gonna win that fight. 0.99
01:27:47.000 Roy's like super technical, doesn't take too many chances, works on that long jab, you know? 1.00
01:27:52.000 But Robbie Lawler will go after a motherfucker. 1.00
01:27:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:27:55.000 He's spooky.
01:27:57.000 What'd you think of Roy Nelson, Cormier? 1.00
01:28:00.000 Cormier's a fucking sick athlete, man. 1.00
01:28:02.000 He's a sick athlete. 1.00
01:28:03.000 Is he for sure going to 205? 0.93
01:28:04.000 Yeah, he's going.
01:28:04.000 He wants to fight Jon Jones.
01:28:06.000 Yeah, he was saying it.
01:28:07.000 He was saying, I'm going to 205. Yeah, he'll be at 205. He was 224 for this fight.
01:28:12.000 He'll go down to 205 and he's gonna be a handful for everybody.
01:28:16.000 He's that elite Olympic gold medalist caliber athlete. 1.00
01:28:21.000 Those motherfuckers are rare dudes. 1.00
01:28:23.000 Those dudes, they break their hand and keep punching you with it until it falls apart. 1.00
01:28:27.000 He was throwing punches at Josh Barnett with a broken hand. 0.99
01:28:30.000 You know, he's taking Josh Barnett up in the air with a broken hand, slamming him on the ground with, you know, his fucking bones are rattling against themselves inside of his hand. 0.99
01:28:39.000 To do that to Josh Barnett, man. 0.99
01:28:40.000 Exactly.
01:28:41.000 You gotta be out of this world.
01:28:42.000 And he's not even a legit heavyweight.
01:28:45.000 He wrestled at 206. I think he wrestled at 206. It was definitely light because he had to cut weight to do it, and that's why he lost his bid at the Olympics, because he had kidney failure.
01:28:54.000 Because he tried to make the weight. 0.96
01:28:56.000 He tried to cut the weight, like cut a lot of weight, and he fucked himself up. 0.99
01:28:59.000 A lot of guys have that, man. 0.99
01:29:01.000 You know, Jose Aldo has kidney stones now.
01:29:04.000 He had a kidney stone removed after his fight with a Korean zombie. 0.90
01:29:07.000 That's from cutting weight.
01:29:09.000 Yeah, one of my students had kidney stones, and since he went to the hospital and went through all the excruciating pain and me hearing the stories, he said, bro, drink cranberry juice, pure cranberry juice.
01:29:22.000 Don't drink that cocktail every day.
01:29:24.000 You do not want to go through what I just went through.
01:29:27.000 I swear to God, I have...
01:29:29.000 Pure cranberry juice in my refrigerator.
01:29:31.000 I make sure my wife keeps it stocked and I drink it every day.
01:29:35.000 Just hearing his story of excruciating pain in the hospital.
01:29:39.000 Does this guy...
01:29:40.000 Who is it?
01:29:40.000 Which guy?
01:29:42.000 I don't know.
01:29:43.000 I don't want to say his name.
01:29:44.000 Okay.
01:29:44.000 Does he cut weight?
01:29:47.000 Yes, he cuts massive weight.
01:29:49.000 He should.
01:29:50.000 He should.
01:29:51.000 These dudes that cut weight to do matches. 1.00
01:29:54.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:29:54.000 Fuck, man. 1.00
01:29:55.000 That shit's bad for you. 1.00
01:29:57.000 Cutting weight is not good. 1.00
01:30:00.000 But if you want to be a great fighter...
01:30:02.000 Just drink pure cranberry juice.
01:30:04.000 Not the cocktail.
01:30:06.000 And you should be fine every day. 1.00
01:30:07.000 Probably tastes like shit. 1.00
01:30:08.000 It tastes sour. 1.00
01:30:09.000 But it's like a shot.
01:30:10.000 I drink it every day.
01:30:12.000 Where do you get it?
01:30:12.000 Do you make it?
01:30:13.000 Whole Foods.
01:30:14.000 You can get it at anywhere.
01:30:15.000 Any supermarket.
01:30:16.000 They also have cranberry pills that does the same thing.
01:30:19.000 Does it do the same thing?
01:30:20.000 Just take a shot, a shot of cranberry juice.
01:30:22.000 How could it do the same thing, though?
01:30:23.000 It never does.
01:30:24.000 You know, like, you take those, like, pills, green pills, they're never as good as, like, real wheatgrass juice.
01:30:31.000 It's kind of sour, but you get used to it.
01:30:32.000 It's actually not bad.
01:30:33.000 Yeah.
01:30:34.000 And you can't drink that much of it, so it's perfect.
01:30:35.000 It's like a way to quench your thirst, and you're not gonna down, like, half the bottle. 0.99
01:30:39.000 If it was a great drink or something, shit, you'd kill half the bottle. 0.99
01:30:42.000 But since it's so tart, You're forced to only take a sip. 0.99
01:30:46.000 And so what does that do? 1.00
01:30:48.000 What's in it that protects your dick? 0.99
01:30:50.000 It's got to be the acid in it because it's kind of sour. 0.99
01:30:54.000 It has something to do with that and making sure that those stones are always broken down.
01:31:01.000 It probably just melts them or something.
01:31:03.000 I don't know.
01:31:03.000 I used to date this girl who used to get urinary tract infections.
01:31:06.000 She used to have to drink cranberry juice to get rid of it. 0.99
01:31:09.000 Yeah.
01:31:10.000 How weird is that?
01:31:12.000 Cranberry juice is legit.
01:31:13.000 It's weird that there's foods, though, that cure things.
01:31:16.000 You have any stomach ailments, anything bothering your stomach, take garlic.
01:31:19.000 It's incredible. 0.97
01:31:21.000 If you eat some bad food and get some sort of stomach food poisoning and shit like that, eat some cloves of garlic. 0.99
01:31:27.000 It's like sending in rabid Italian troops that go in there and just fuck up all the bacteria. 0.99
01:31:33.000 It's incredible. 0.98
01:31:34.000 Yeah.
01:31:35.000 People who don't like raw garlic, you don't know what you're missing. 1.00
01:31:37.000 Just eat cloves of that shit. 1.00
01:31:39.000 It's fantastic for you. 1.00
01:31:40.000 It's like an assault on all the shitty things inside your body. 0.98
01:31:44.000 How about that Tony Ferguson Mars? 1.00
01:31:46.000 Damn! 0.99
01:31:46.000 Why is he called him Mars? 0.99
01:31:48.000 Well, you know, because you've got to name...
01:31:51.000 Every move and every position and every transition, in my opinion, in order to teach at the highest level.
01:31:58.000 So there's a difference between getting a darse when you're on top and you're using your weight.
01:32:02.000 He wasn't on top.
01:32:04.000 He cinched it in and went to his back.
01:32:06.000 And Mark Lehman, He's a very well-known MMA jiu-jitsu coach.
01:32:11.000 He used to do that.
01:32:12.000 He's the one who actually called it the Darce when it was named after the first guy he saw use it, Joe Darce.
01:32:20.000 And I think his name is DRC. Mark Lehman is very similar to me as we like to name everything that doesn't have names and lots of jiu-jitsu moves didn't.
01:32:29.000 So you've got to name...
01:32:32.000 There's a difference between the Mars, because the Mars is on your back, and that's how he used to do it.
01:32:37.000 He said that was his thing, that his squeeze was so tight that he didn't need to be on top, and he liked rolling guys, and they didn't expect it, so he called it the Mars.
01:32:45.000 There's also a farce, which...
01:32:48.000 I don't know if a guy named Freddy made it up.
01:32:51.000 I don't know the story behind farce, but that's when you're kind of mounting the guy, and you have...
01:32:56.000 You are mounting the guy, and you have a darse. 0.74
01:32:58.000 So there's different variations of it, and the one that Tony...
01:33:02.000 Trains at 10th Pana Costa Mesa all week, and every Thursday he comes up and trains with me, and that's the move you gotta watch when you're rolling with Tony.
01:33:09.000 He does flying darses, man.
01:33:12.000 I mean, his jiu-jitsu's very underrated, man.
01:33:16.000 He's gonna shock a lot of people over the...
01:33:18.000 Over his career.
01:33:20.000 Well, that darts that he hit that dude with, he immediately scooted under him and then almost like an inverted crucifix, he ties his arm up with his legs from the bottom as he does it.
01:33:30.000 You gotta have confidence in your squeeze to do that, man.
01:33:33.000 So that tells you a lot.
01:33:36.000 You're like, wow, you won't ever see anybody going to the Mars.
01:33:39.000 You see people going to the darts and if the guy on the bottom rolls, you should be able to roll with him.
01:33:44.000 Even if it turns into Omar, still finish it, but you don't go there voluntarily unless you're super confident with that move.
01:33:50.000 Having those long arms is such a massive advantage.
01:33:53.000 It really is.
01:33:54.000 As far as that leverage you can get with long limbs, it's really incredible.
01:33:59.000 Guys who have wicked darces and have long arms, they can just shove them under place.
01:34:04.000 Like Kendall Grove.
01:34:05.000 Kendall Grove used to catch him in all sorts of weird spots because he had an extra foot on his arms.
01:34:11.000 Yep.
01:34:11.000 Jeff Glover as well.
01:34:12.000 He's one of the best at darces.
01:34:14.000 Yeah.
01:34:14.000 Jeff Glover lets you pass him.
01:34:16.000 I love that move.
01:34:17.000 Where he lets you get into side control, and you think you're going into side control, but really you're just going to Darce Land.
01:34:23.000 Yeah.
01:34:23.000 He just catches it in the transition.
01:34:25.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:34:26.000 Jiu Jitsu, for people who don't know, it's so fucking technical. 0.96
01:34:29.000 There's so many techniques. 0.77
01:34:31.000 I mean, it's truly amazing when you stop and consider the positions, the amount of different possibilities each position holds, and then different ways to submit people, and how they all flow together.
01:34:43.000 If you've never done it before, it's hard to kind of understand it, and I know that's one of the things that I take a lot of time on when it comes to a ground battle in the UFC. I always make sure I try to explain what a guy's trying to do, where it becomes a problem, where he's going to,
01:34:59.000 and people get a chance to see it more that way, but unless you train yourself, you'll never really truly understand.
01:35:05.000 The beauty of it.
01:35:06.000 If you train yourself, you'll get a sense of what it's like to struggle to actually catch a guy in a position.
01:35:11.000 Then you'll understand how amazing it is when you see, like, really, really high-level stuff.
01:35:16.000 When you see a mad scramble like Kron Gracie and Gary Tonin and Gary taking Kron's back in that wild scramble.
01:35:23.000 You know, they kept rolling, kept rolling, kept rolling, then BAM! Locks up the body triangle. 1.00
01:35:27.000 Like, fuck! 1.00
01:35:28.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:35:30.000 It's an art that anybody can do.
01:35:34.000 Children, old ladies, they all do it. 1.00
01:35:36.000 It's really, really easy.
01:35:37.000 I'm not trying to sell it.
01:35:40.000 Obviously, I want to make money, but it's the truth.
01:35:43.000 The truth is anybody can learn it.
01:35:45.000 All you have to do is just show up to your local jujitsu school.
01:35:48.000 And just watch.
01:35:49.000 Just go and just watch a couple times.
01:35:51.000 It's free.
01:35:52.000 You don't have to commit to it.
01:35:53.000 Just tell the guy you want to watch.
01:35:54.000 And you watch and you realize, oh my god, I had it all wrong. 1.00
01:35:58.000 You expect that you're going to show up and there's going to be all these fucking douchebags killing each other and bleeding on each other. 0.99
01:36:05.000 And you realize it's a bunch of nerds. 0.99
01:36:08.000 It's a bunch of computer nerds.
01:36:10.000 And after you watch one class, you should be sold on it.
01:36:14.000 And you don't have to roll and do...
01:36:16.000 You know, people are scared of rolling and, oh, what if he taps me out or hurts me?
01:36:19.000 It's so rare that anybody gets hurt, really.
01:36:22.000 It's so rare.
01:36:23.000 You usually get hurt more from positions than you do from submissions.
01:36:26.000 You get hurt more when your leg gets tripped onto you.
01:36:28.000 But, you know, as you get better at it, that becomes less and less.
01:36:32.000 And as you...
01:36:32.000 If you're in a good school like Tenth Planet or like...
01:36:35.000 There's so many good schools in L.A. and we get spoiled, but...
01:36:39.000 Most places have to be good in order to stay open in this day and age because there's so much competition.
01:36:45.000 There's amazing amounts of competition from jiu-jitsu.
01:36:47.000 Our beginning classes, we kind of changed them up a little.
01:36:51.000 Over the years, I realized that most people are a lot more scared of going to a jiu-jitsu class and checking it out and taking one class than I thought.
01:37:01.000 They're way more scared than I thought.
01:37:03.000 So I understand that.
01:37:09.000 It's a safe sport and you should know if you want to do it or not.
01:37:12.000 And if you're not totally into it, I don't want to talk you into it.
01:37:15.000 You should just know.
01:37:16.000 And then that leaves me with a small percentage of the population, which I consider, oh, you're my family.
01:37:22.000 But in reality, if I change my beginner classes and make them more, cater more to the guys that want to do it, but they're just scared to death.
01:37:32.000 They're scared to death of signing a contract.
01:37:34.000 They're scared to death of getting hurt.
01:37:35.000 They're coming into jujitsu scared.
01:37:37.000 So you've got to really think about...
01:37:40.000 Just walking them through it nice and slowly, showing them that there's nothing to be scared of.
01:37:45.000 This is a beautiful thing that everyone can learn.
01:37:47.000 You can learn to get really good at putting people to sleep in six months.
01:37:51.000 You know, another thing is don't be afraid to tap.
01:37:54.000 That's another thing that I make sure I really tell people.
01:37:58.000 It's nothing wrong with tapping.
01:37:59.000 It's not that bad.
01:38:00.000 Just go in there and tap.
01:38:01.000 You've got to think about it like someone scoring a point on you in basketball.
01:38:05.000 It's going to happen.
01:38:06.000 It's totally normal.
01:38:07.000 Yeah.
01:38:07.000 And once you get past that, especially if you're training with good people, you tap them, they tap you, doesn't matter.
01:38:13.000 It's good for you.
01:38:14.000 And if you can't tap a guy but he can tap you, guess what?
01:38:17.000 That's good for you too.
01:38:18.000 It's good for you to know that someone can tap you.
01:38:20.000 You need to up your game and up your skill level to get to the point where he's at.
01:38:23.000 But just because he taps you is no big deal.
01:38:25.000 It doesn't matter.
01:38:26.000 People tap people all the time.
01:38:27.000 That's one of the biggest reasons people...
01:38:30.000 Are afraid to come in.
01:38:31.000 They're afraid to lose this game of death because really that's why jiu-jitsu is so fascinating and such a beautiful thing because really it applies to life on the streets, saving your family, protecting your children, protecting your wife, your wife protecting your children, and back and forth your children knowing jiu-jitsu and protecting their father and son.
01:38:50.000 You know, a whole family where everyone does jiu-jitsu, that increases your chances of survival in like some apocalyptic experience.
01:38:58.000 Well, either way, it's a great way to exercise.
01:39:01.000 It's a great discipline.
01:39:03.000 It's great for your body.
01:39:05.000 It's great for your mind.
01:39:06.000 Like, after we leave jiu-jitsu class, tell me...
01:39:09.000 When are we more loose, relaxed, and silly than after jiu-jitsu meals?
01:39:14.000 We've had some hilarious after-jiu-jitsu conversations where everybody's exhausted.
01:39:20.000 You've been fighting for your life for the past hour and a half, and we're all just hanging out, chilling, and trying to kill each other just an hour before.
01:39:26.000 It's like a virtual reality video game.
01:39:28.000 Exactly.
01:39:28.000 And you get used to that.
01:39:29.000 It becomes a normal thing.
01:39:31.000 For folks where it's not a normal thing, it seems daunting.
01:39:33.000 It seems terrifying.
01:39:35.000 It seems uninviting.
01:39:36.000 But believe me, I know a lot of, like you said, nerds.
01:39:39.000 And it's a lot of nice people in jujitsu too.
01:39:42.000 People who have a good control of their ego.
01:39:44.000 We've talked about that on this podcast many times.
01:39:46.000 But I think it needs repeating.
01:39:48.000 Absolutely.
01:39:49.000 I can't tell you how many tweets, emails, messages, how many I get.
01:39:55.000 I listen to you guys talk about jujitsu on the podcast over and over, and then I finally went to a school and I tried it, and guess what?
01:40:02.000 You were right.
01:40:03.000 This is amazing.
01:40:04.000 This is changing my life.
01:40:05.000 My son's doing it now, too.
01:40:07.000 And that is...
01:40:10.000 The most likely outcome, if you give it a shot and you have an open mind and leave your ego at the door, is it's gonna change your life for the better.
01:40:18.000 It's gonna give you, without a doubt, it's gonna be one of the best vehicles for developing your confidence that you can ever find.
01:40:25.000 It will change your confidence.
01:40:27.000 And that's women, including women. 1.00
01:40:29.000 Think about women that you know that have gone to your schools, gone to different jiu-jitsu classes and gotten better at it, and then they become a more relaxed person.
01:40:37.000 They become a different person.
01:40:39.000 They're not worried about their self-defense around men anymore.
01:40:42.000 They know that the reality is a girl is a brown belt in jiu-jitsu. 0.57
01:40:45.000 Do you remember when we had Felicia do that thing with Seymour Butts? 0.90
01:40:48.000 Yes!
01:40:49.000 Explain that.
01:40:50.000 Seymour Butts is a nice guy. 0.93
01:40:51.000 He's a porn star and a porn producer and he had a show. 0.94
01:40:55.000 On Showtime. 0.98
01:40:56.000 On Showtime.
01:40:57.000 I don't remember what the name of it was.
01:40:59.000 Do you remember the show?
01:41:00.000 Maybe it was just Seymour Butts.
01:41:02.000 I don't remember what it was.
01:41:03.000 But anyway, real nice guy.
01:41:05.000 In one of the episodes he wanted to come down and do jujitsu with a woman.
01:41:10.000 No, no, no.
01:41:10.000 He just wanted to come down and do jujitsu.
01:41:12.000 Oh, really?
01:41:13.000 It was not with a woman.
01:41:14.000 He didn't want to do it with Felicia?
01:41:15.000 Did you set that up on purpose?
01:41:17.000 No, I set that up on purpose.
01:41:18.000 He had no idea.
01:41:19.000 Felicia Oh, who's a friend of ours, she's a black belt under Jean-Jacques Machado and a legit bonafide badass. 0.99
01:41:27.000 She's like 135 pounds. 1.00
01:41:29.000 She's not a big woman. 0.99
01:41:29.000 But she is strong as fuck and her jujitsu is top notch. 0.99
01:41:33.000 And she's really smart. 1.00
01:41:34.000 She's super, super, super smart. 0.91
01:41:36.000 So she just gets good at anything. 1.00
01:41:38.000 She just knows how to get good at shit. 1.00
01:41:39.000 And her and Seymour Butts rolled. 1.00
01:41:42.000 It was like his first day.
01:41:43.000 And she manhandled this poor lad. 0.95
01:41:47.000 He didn't get hurt.
01:41:48.000 He just tapped.
01:41:49.000 He lost the game over and over.
01:41:50.000 She was so nice.
01:41:51.000 Which never feels amazing.
01:41:53.000 When you tap out, it doesn't feel refreshing.
01:41:56.000 No.
01:41:57.000 But that's why it's so beautiful because it didn't feel good.
01:42:00.000 You just lost a game of death.
01:42:02.000 No one got hurt.
01:42:03.000 But that tap represented the fact that he had your life in his hands.
01:42:08.000 And the only reason he let go is because he's a cool guy and everyone's cool in class. 0.99
01:42:11.000 But in reality, if he was a douchebag and he wanted to kill you, he could have. 0.99
01:42:16.000 Yeah, they take your life. 1.00
01:42:18.000 If someone wanted to choke you out and then stomp your head out while you're unconscious, that's what happens.
01:42:22.000 But the point is, Felicia, being this small woman, just using her technique, just tapped him over and over and over again.
01:42:30.000 Got him in a triangle, got his back, got him in an arm bar.
01:42:32.000 And the way she did it was so fluid and beautiful.
01:42:35.000 And you watch the episode, it doesn't I don't think it goes down like that.
01:42:41.000 They edited it to make him look good.
01:42:43.000 Because we shot a segment where I'm teaching, and then I'm teaching him, and we're doing the teaching segment.
01:42:49.000 And then I asked him, do you want to roll, too?
01:42:50.000 Because he didn't even know what, like, rolling.
01:42:52.000 I go, do we kind of spar?
01:42:53.000 And he said, yeah, yeah, we'll shoot that, and we'll do that.
01:42:55.000 And I go, well, we'll spar with the woman, you know, to make it. 1.00
01:42:58.000 And he's like, uh, okay, whatever.
01:43:02.000 That was your idea?
01:43:03.000 That's so funny.
01:43:04.000 It was so long ago, I forgot.
01:43:06.000 Yeah.
01:43:07.000 Generally, if you're a girl out there and you do jujitsu for solid, for one year solid, the chances of you getting raped go down significantly. 0.94
01:43:19.000 It's very hard to rape a jujitsu girl. 1.00
01:43:23.000 And it doesn't take that long to get good at it. 0.96
01:43:24.000 Like I said, within two years, time flies.
01:43:26.000 You could be doing it three years just like that and you're a badass.
01:43:28.000 The last time I rolled with Felicia, I think I was a purple belt.
01:43:32.000 I might have been a brown belt.
01:43:33.000 It was either purple or brown belt.
01:43:35.000 And it's not like I was trying to kill her, but I didn't tap her.
01:43:39.000 I didn't tap her.
01:43:40.000 She weighs 135 pounds. 0.99
01:43:41.000 And she's just fucking good, man. 0.99
01:43:44.000 She's really strong and she's fucking good. 0.99
01:43:47.000 And when someone's really good, they know how to put themselves in the perfect position. 0.99
01:43:50.000 They know how to keep moving.
01:43:51.000 They know how to keep getting away from anything that you're trying to do to them and putting themselves in a better position to defend, a better position to attack.
01:43:58.000 That being many steps ahead of the person you're doing it with because they don't know what you're doing, gives someone a massive amount of confidence.
01:44:04.000 And I've seen girls go into jujitsu class, start getting good, and then start tapping out guys.
01:44:09.000 And when they start tapping out guys, it's a wild thing to watch.
01:44:13.000 It's a wild thing to see the guy's face.
01:44:14.000 It's a wild thing to see a girl cinch up.
01:44:17.000 The first girl I ever saw tap a doodah was this girl Duncan used to roll with.
01:44:21.000 They were both beginners.
01:44:23.000 Do you remember we got Duncan and Ari who gave them a free year for Christmas?
01:44:28.000 Do you remember that?
01:44:30.000 Yes, I do.
01:44:31.000 Very well.
01:44:32.000 Ari stuck it out.
01:44:34.000 Ari got some taps in on some dudes. 0.88
01:44:36.000 He kept going.
01:44:37.000 But Duncan ran into this girl who was very pretty and very girly, but she tapped him with the quickness.
01:44:45.000 How many times did she tap him?
01:44:46.000 She tapped him several.
01:44:48.000 It was ugly.
01:44:49.000 But it was fascinating to watch.
01:44:51.000 This girl realizing if she knew the techniques better, she could get a guy. 1.00
01:44:56.000 A guy that's probably stronger than her.
01:44:58.000 She can still get him.
01:45:01.000 That scarred Duncan, he never...
01:45:03.000 He didn't laugh.
01:45:04.000 I think he showed up to maybe a handful of classes at most.
01:45:09.000 Ari stuck it out for a while.
01:45:11.000 Yeah.
01:45:11.000 But with Ari, he got hurt.
01:45:13.000 Something happened to his knee.
01:45:15.000 I think he had surgery.
01:45:16.000 He got staff, and then he had a...
01:45:17.000 Well, he had a meniscus surgery, and then he got staff.
01:45:19.000 And that was too much.
01:45:20.000 He couldn't take it.
01:45:21.000 Some people...
01:45:23.000 There's a small percentage of people that get hurt doing jiu-jitsu and that scares them and they never want to come back.
01:45:29.000 But generally, most of the people who do jiu-jitsu love it so much that the first thing they think of when they get hurt, they're pissed off because they're going to be out for six weeks or they're going to be out for three months.
01:45:38.000 That's why they're pissed.
01:45:39.000 They can't wait to get back.
01:45:40.000 And you can't wait to get back so much that you're like...
01:45:43.000 A lot of times you come back too early and you're not really healed right and then you re-injure yourself.
01:45:48.000 So that's...
01:45:49.000 Generally, if you...
01:45:51.000 Come in with an open mind and you leave your ego at the door.
01:45:54.000 Generally, you're going to fall in love with it.
01:45:56.000 It's going to change your life.
01:45:57.000 And when you get hurt, you're more bummed about missing jiu-jitsu than you are about the actual injury.
01:46:02.000 But there are some people that they get ringworm once. 0.99
01:46:06.000 And they're like, fuck this. 1.00
01:46:07.000 You get ringworm. 1.00
01:46:08.000 Except ringworm.
01:46:09.000 It's very easy to eliminate ringworm.
01:46:12.000 You never have to deal with it if you can be consistent with the yogurt and the acidophilus.
01:46:16.000 And defense soap.
01:46:17.000 Get some defense soap.
01:46:18.000 Absolutely.
01:46:19.000 Tell everybody.
01:46:20.000 Yeah.
01:46:20.000 Defense Soap is the best.
01:46:21.000 And it's a great company owned by a great guy.
01:46:23.000 Yeah.
01:46:23.000 And the company, they support wrestlers and they develop soap that cleans your skin without fucking up all the natural bacteria.
01:46:30.000 Yeah.
01:46:30.000 All the healthy four.
01:46:31.000 I was resistant to Defense Soap for a while.
01:46:34.000 I never really looked into it in the very beginning.
01:46:36.000 I thought...
01:46:37.000 It was a soap that had all these antibiotics and chemicals that I didn't want to have nothing to do with it.
01:46:44.000 It just sounded like that, but when I finally looked into it and found out that it was just eucalyptus oil and tea tree oil in high amounts.
01:46:52.000 It's like three times the amount that you find in it.
01:46:55.000 I bring that everywhere.
01:46:56.000 I bring it on the road with me. 1.00
01:46:58.000 I don't go to a hotel room unless I have that shit in me. 1.00
01:47:00.000 I use defense soap every day. 1.00
01:47:03.000 Every day.
01:47:04.000 Yeah, me too.
01:47:05.000 Once I found out it was all natural, and I was sold.
01:47:08.000 Now that I don't need shampoo anymore, I use it on the top of my head, too?
01:47:10.000 I use it everywhere.
01:47:11.000 I use it as shampoo. 1.00
01:47:12.000 Damn, you crazy. 1.00
01:47:13.000 You crazy, any problem? 1.00
01:47:15.000 You crazy, any problem? 0.99
01:47:16.000 It keeps dandruff away, because dandruff is a form of fungus similar to ringworm. 0.95
01:47:23.000 Totally makes sense.
01:47:24.000 Well, healthy skin flora is something that people don't even think about, but, you know, I mean, that's what killed a lot of motherfuckers back in the day, when people got scratched, and, you know, they got some sort of infection, and, you know, they'd People used to die of infections all the time.
01:47:39.000 That's like one of the biggest deaths, the biggest scary things about going to a hospital today is infections.
01:47:44.000 And you can do a little bit to prevent that stuff by a healthy diet, eating a lot of probiotics.
01:47:50.000 Even if you're a vegan, say if you only eat vegetables, you can still get probiotics in the form of sauerkraut.
01:47:56.000 Sauerkraut, like natural raw sauerkraut, super good for you.
01:47:59.000 Kombucha, super good for you.
01:48:00.000 Vegans can have acidophilus pills.
01:48:03.000 Well, see, they shouldn't even really have kombucha, because kombucha is a fungus, and a fungus is actually closer to a person than a plant is.
01:48:13.000 Funguses are actually closer to human beings than plants are.
01:48:16.000 Funguses are actually much more like an animal than they are like a plant. 0.99
01:48:21.000 So if you're a true vegan and you're eating kombucha, you're kind of a hypocrite. 1.00
01:48:26.000 If you eat mushrooms, you're kind of a hypocrite too. 1.00
01:48:28.000 Shiloh. 0.99
01:48:29.000 But they actually probably want you to eat them.
01:48:32.000 That's the whole idea behind psilocybin.
01:48:34.000 Psilocybin wants you to eat it.
01:48:35.000 That's why it's big and white and gigantic.
01:48:38.000 It shows up. 1.00
01:48:40.000 It shows itself very easily on cow patties and shit like that. 0.99
01:48:45.000 It's literally inviting you to come and eat it because that's how it communicates with you. 0.99
01:48:49.000 The red tops with the white?
01:48:50.000 Yeah, I mean, come on.
01:48:50.000 How beautiful.
01:48:51.000 The red ones, right?
01:48:52.000 Yeah, how beautiful.
01:48:52.000 That's the Amanita muscaria.
01:48:54.000 But psilocybin, the ones that grow on cow shit, they have the big giant ones in the Amazon. 0.99
01:48:59.000 They grow the size of dinner plates. 0.99
01:49:00.000 What's the difference?
01:49:01.000 They both get you to that other dimension?
01:49:04.000 Amanita muscaria is a very controversial mushroom.
01:49:07.000 And for folks who've never heard of the Amanita muscaria mushroom...
01:49:10.000 It's the red one that you see.
01:49:10.000 It's the red one with the white spots.
01:49:12.000 It's literally Santa Claus.
01:49:13.000 Okay.
01:49:14.000 And I'll break it down real quick for people who have never heard this before.
01:49:18.000 Google Joe Rogan, Santa Claus was a mushroom.
01:49:21.000 I wrote a whole article about it in 2006 or something like that.
01:49:25.000 I'm talking about the difference in what it does for you.
01:49:27.000 Well, I'm about to explain.
01:49:28.000 I'm about to explain to people.
01:49:29.000 The Amanita muscaria mushroom is native to Siberia, to Europe.
01:49:34.000 It's a different mushroom.
01:49:35.000 The mushroom, the psilocybin mushroom that you see in tropical climates and you also, we see it in a lot of places now.
01:49:40.000 The Pacific Northwest has a lot of them.
01:49:43.000 That's a different experience and that's a much more accessible experience and it's a much more reliable experience.
01:49:48.000 The Amanita muscaria oftentimes isn't even psychoactive.
01:49:51.000 Like, they don't know what makes it psychoactive and what doesn't.
01:49:54.000 There's all sorts of speculation that it could be genetically variable, it could be seasonally variable, it could be, you know, there's strains of it that grew in certain areas and they were super potent, but they don't exist anymore, or you have to find them.
01:50:07.000 I've never had a good Amanita muscaria trip.
01:50:10.000 I only had one to speak of that really blew it out, but we took psilocybin too. 0.94
01:50:18.000 We took the Amanita for like an hour and it wasn't doing shit. 0.91
01:50:21.000 Is that us? 0.97
01:50:21.000 No, no, no. 0.97
01:50:22.000 It was me and Stan Hope.
01:50:24.000 Me, Stan Hope, and Jan Irvin.
01:50:26.000 How many grams?
01:50:27.000 He made this weird soup.
01:50:29.000 He made like a tea with the Amanita muscaria. 1.00
01:50:33.000 He knows how to do all that shit. 0.99
01:50:35.000 Yand is pretty well versed in how to prepare these things. 1.00
01:50:38.000 There was a specific amount that Terence McKenna talked about.
01:50:41.000 Five grams.
01:50:42.000 Well, that's psilocybin.
01:50:44.000 This is the Amanita muscaria, like I was saying.
01:50:46.000 So we took that and then an hour or so in, we decided to jump it with psilocybin.
01:50:52.000 And then when we jumped it with psilocybin.
01:50:54.000 Wow! 0.98
01:50:55.000 The two of them together, it was pretty fucking intense. 0.99
01:50:59.000 And it was the day of the war. 0.94
01:51:00.000 So it was really, really, really weird.
01:51:03.000 And we had this mata de coco tea.
01:51:06.000 It's cocaine tea.
01:51:08.000 It's tea that's derived from coca leaves, like natural coca leaves. 1.00
01:51:13.000 This is more shit that Jan has. 1.00
01:51:14.000 Is it legal? 1.00
01:51:15.000 I don't believe so.
01:51:17.000 I would say nay.
01:51:19.000 But it should be, because the actual leaves themselves in these indigenous high-altitude herding populations, they just chew them. 1.00
01:51:28.000 They chew them all day, and it's like tobacco to them, or like anything else that people normally have.
01:51:33.000 It's like chewing gum or something like that.
01:51:36.000 It's a clean stimulant. 1.00
01:51:38.000 It's when you break it down and turn it into cocaine that it becomes a real fucking pain in the ass. 1.00
01:51:43.000 It becomes addictive, and people get weirded out on it. 1.00
01:51:46.000 But they say it's actually better for you than coffee if you just chew the leaves.
01:51:50.000 I just found out within the last year, I saw a documentary on where ecstasy comes from.
01:51:55.000 The ingredient, MDMA, right?
01:51:58.000 It comes from these trees in Thailand and Cambodia.
01:52:02.000 So they're chopping down all these trees to get the inner core of it, and that's what makes ecstasy.
01:52:09.000 How crazy is that?
01:52:09.000 I thought it was a pure lab-created thing.
01:52:13.000 I did too.
01:52:13.000 I think there was a Vice documentary on it.
01:52:15.000 Another fucking Vice one. 0.99
01:52:16.000 Those Vice guys are on top of everything. 1.00
01:52:18.000 Maybe that's the one I saw.
01:52:20.000 Probably.
01:52:20.000 But it was fascinating.
01:52:22.000 It's crazy.
01:52:22.000 It all comes from Cambodia and Thailand.
01:52:24.000 And there's a lot of violence associated with where these trees are now because people are killing people to try to get to these trees.
01:52:30.000 Crazy.
01:52:30.000 I wonder how that would be like taking it naturally, like right from the tree.
01:52:35.000 I know, right?
01:52:36.000 I wonder if you could.
01:52:38.000 Trip to Thailand!
01:52:41.000 Let's go find the trees.
01:52:42.000 That's a movie.
01:52:43.000 A group of guys that go find the tree with like three hot chicks. 0.99
01:52:46.000 All the chicks die, of course, within the first 45 minutes. 0.94
01:52:49.000 One survives.
01:52:50.000 Only one at the end.
01:52:52.000 Ecstasy is a funny one, man.
01:52:53.000 It's a really funny one.
01:52:54.000 It's a really interesting one.
01:52:57.000 Because it's thought of as a party drug, and it certainly is, but you can learn a lot on ecstasy, man.
01:53:03.000 I've only done it once, but I learned a lot.
01:53:05.000 I had a very beneficial trip.
01:53:07.000 I paid the price with my mental health for the couple days afterwards.
01:53:13.000 I was wrecked.
01:53:14.000 My brain was not working well.
01:53:15.000 The comedown is terrible.
01:53:16.000 For me, it was.
01:53:18.000 For some people, apparently, it's not.
01:53:19.000 Or if you take 5-HTP... I don't know.
01:53:36.000 Are you joking around?
01:53:37.000 Are you serious?
01:53:38.000 You don't remember that?
01:53:39.000 I don't remember Roll On.
01:53:40.000 When Aubrey created it, the original thing was Aubrey likes to party.
01:53:45.000 And he created it for the comedown off of Ecstasy.
01:53:48.000 Because 5-HTP... And that's what New Mood became, right?
01:53:50.000 Sort of. 0.94
01:53:51.000 It was enhanced and now New Mood has a bunch of different shit in it, like L-Tryptophan, which converts to 5-HTP. So it has like a time release effect. 0.52
01:53:58.000 It's better.
01:53:58.000 Yeah.
01:53:59.000 Well, it's better in that there's more than one mechanism for converting 5-HTP to serotonin.
01:54:04.000 L-tryptophan converts to 5-HTP, which converts to serotonin.
01:54:08.000 It gives you the building blocks to replenish your serotonin surprise after you do something like that, but also gives you The extra serotonin throughout your day, which picks your mood up.
01:54:19.000 So much so, man, that they say for people who are taking SSRIs or antidepressants, they tell them not to take 5-HTP. Because Neil Brennan, you know Neil Brennan, the dude who met from the- Dave Chappelle's guy.
01:54:30.000 He was on 5-HTP, but he was also taken in antidepressant.
01:54:34.000 The doctor told him to lay off the 5-HTP because it would give him too much serotonin.
01:54:38.000 Huh.
01:54:38.000 Yeah.
01:54:38.000 So that's for real.
01:54:40.000 Oh, it's definitely for real. 1.00
01:54:41.000 Have you tried any of that shit? 1.00
01:54:42.000 Well, I will say this. 1.00
01:54:44.000 Depeche Mode was just in town last month, and after the Depeche Mode concert, I did take some New Mood.
01:54:49.000 Took about four of them.
01:54:51.000 I see what you're saying.
01:54:52.000 Yeah.
01:54:53.000 I see what you're saying without saying it.
01:54:54.000 What are you talking about?
01:54:55.000 You know what you should have done?
01:54:56.000 New Mood.
01:54:56.000 You should have taken Alpha Brain before the Depeche Mode concert, and you would have been smart enough to not go.
01:55:01.000 Oh! 0.60
01:55:04.000 Oh! 0.60
01:55:04.000 Oh no, I didn't. 0.60
01:55:06.000 Oh no, I didn't.
01:55:09.000 Sold out to Staples Center three nights in a row.
01:55:12.000 Come on.
01:55:13.000 They haven't had a hit single in ten years.
01:55:15.000 I'm joking, obviously.
01:55:16.000 That's like Pink Floyd status.
01:55:17.000 An old friend of ours, I think you were friends with him.
01:55:20.000 I was friends with him.
01:55:20.000 He used to work at the comedy store.
01:55:22.000 I was murdered last night.
01:55:24.000 I don't know if you remember Katie.
01:55:25.000 What?
01:55:26.000 He used to work there at the comedy store and he recently moved to Los Angeles.
01:55:30.000 Las Vegas.
01:55:31.000 And what happened is this gunman came into a nightclub, I believe it's at the Palms, and shot two guys.
01:55:38.000 And he was just supposedly a guy that was at this club, and he tried to tackle the guy because the guy was pointing his gun to innocent people.
01:55:46.000 So he was doing a hero thing, and then he got shot.
01:55:49.000 I don't know if you remember Katie.
01:55:51.000 I remember that, too.
01:55:51.000 He was one of the nicest guys.
01:55:54.000 He was dating Katie?
01:55:56.000 No, no, his name is KD. His name's KD. KD. Oh, remember KD? Yeah, yeah, we talked about KD yesterday on the podcast, how hilarious she was.
01:56:03.000 It makes sense.
01:56:04.000 KD was one of my first friends in Los Angeles when I first moved here.
01:56:08.000 That's terrible. 1.00
01:56:10.000 Fuck, man. 1.00
01:56:12.000 There was another school shooting the other day, too. 1.00
01:56:14.000 Did you hear about that shit? 1.00
01:56:15.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:56:15.000 Real quick, before we get to the school shooting, back to the mushroom thing, I'm reading... 1.00
01:56:18.000 Oh, yeah, we didn't even describe the difference. 0.95
01:56:20.000 I'm reading a baby book, and this is back to mushrooms, and I've never read so many goddamn books in my life over the last six months. 0.99
01:56:28.000 My kid, that's his favorite shit, is to have... 0.99
01:56:31.000 He goes, grabs a book. 1.00
01:56:32.000 We have a thousand books.
01:56:33.000 He grabs his favorite one.
01:56:34.000 He sits on my lap, and I read it.
01:56:35.000 He loves that.
01:56:36.000 And he knows what the last page is, and he'll flip it over.
01:56:39.000 Start it over, son.
01:56:40.000 Start it over.
01:56:41.000 And there's this one book about Nicholas the Bunny, and he's talking about how in the fall, I like to watch the leaves.
01:56:48.000 In the winter, I find shelter from the rain under a toadstool.
01:56:54.000 And it's a mushroom.
01:56:56.000 I never heard mushrooms called toadstools before.
01:57:00.000 And then on the other side, there's a mushroom with a toad actually sitting on top of the mushroom.
01:57:05.000 Right? 0.88
01:57:06.000 Yeah, they've been called toadstools forever, but they also, if you look up any old-school Christmas shit, all old-school Christmas cards, anything with elves, they all have mushrooms around them. 0.91
01:57:17.000 And they have that mushroom, the Amanita muscaria mushroom. 0.99
01:57:20.000 Isn't there a myth that if you lick a frog's ass, you get high? 0.99
01:57:24.000 No, it's not a myth at all. 1.00
01:57:26.000 It's real?
01:57:26.000 Some frogs.
01:57:27.000 Some frogs, it's different though.
01:57:29.000 What they have is five MEO DMT in them.
01:57:32.000 But what I'm saying is, I open up this baby book, there's a little bunny, Nicholas the Bunny, hiding under a toadstool, and then they show a mushroom and a frog on top of it, sitting down on it.
01:57:43.000 So maybe that's why... 0.99
01:57:46.000 When you lick a frog's ass, you get high because they actually sit on mushrooms? 1.00
01:57:50.000 No, no, no. 1.00
01:57:50.000 Maybe they're using the mushrooms to... 1.00
01:57:52.000 No, you don't... 1.00
01:57:54.000 Listen, you don't lick a frog's ass. 1.00
01:57:56.000 You don't lick a frog to get high. 1.00
01:57:57.000 The way you...
01:57:58.000 This doesn't work. 0.98
01:57:59.000 It's an excretion.
01:58:00.000 Yeah, this is what it is.
01:58:01.000 There's an excretion from certain types of frog skin.
01:58:04.000 And you have to rub it on glass.
01:58:06.000 So you take this frog, and you rub them on glass, and they'll excrete their substance on the grass.
01:58:10.000 Then you take that glass, you put it in the sun, it dries out.
01:58:13.000 Then you take a razor blade, And you scrape it off the glass, and it's a white powder.
01:58:16.000 You smoke that white powder, and it's 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine. 0.97
01:58:20.000 Now, is that secretion coming from their rectum? 0.98
01:58:23.000 It's coming from their skin. 1.00
01:58:24.000 Okay.
01:58:25.000 It's that whole thing of licking a frog is just one of those urban myths.
01:58:28.000 Okay. 0.99
01:58:28.000 It's just weird that in a baby book, you hear about the myths of licking a frog's ass, and they're sitting on... 0.99
01:58:33.000 Maybe... 1.00
01:58:34.000 Because, you know, some people put ecstasy pills in their ass for better absorption. 1.00
01:58:38.000 You've heard of that, Brian, right? 1.00
01:58:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:58:40.000 So maybe the frog is trying to get high, and maybe they figure out how to get high by sitting on a mushroom.
01:58:45.000 It goes up their ass, and they get high, and then you lick a frog's ass, and you get high. 1.00
01:58:49.000 That's all I'm saying. 1.00
01:58:50.000 This was in a baby book.
01:58:51.000 This is the name of the frog.
01:58:52.000 It's called the bufo aureus. 1.00
01:58:55.000 And you can't get fucked up, Joe, by licking it. 0.99
01:58:57.000 If I remember correctly, it's super concentrated and super dangerous, though, to do it. 1.00
01:59:01.000 To lick it?
01:59:02.000 To lick it, because it's really concentrated.
01:59:05.000 If you remember, why don't you Google that? 1.00
01:59:06.000 Yeah, but you gotta Google shit like that if you don't know. 0.99
01:59:08.000 I bought the frog to do this. 0.99
01:59:10.000 The book's called I Am a Bunny.
01:59:11.000 You bought a Bufo Alvarez?
01:59:13.000 Yeah.
01:59:14.000 It's called the Colorado River Toad or Sonoran Desert Toad.
01:59:18.000 It contains 5-M-E-O-D-M-T and bufotenin.
01:59:24.000 Bufotenin? 0.91
01:59:25.000 B-U-F-O-T-E-N-I-N. There's a website that sold these frogs, and so I bought one, and I had it for like a month, and I was like, no, I'm not doing it.
01:59:34.000 Was it alive?
01:59:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
01:59:35.000 So you never licked it?
01:59:36.000 No, I don't even know what ever I do with it.
01:59:39.000 I think it's a myth.
01:59:39.000 If you had it, why didn't you lick it?
01:59:41.000 I don't know.
01:59:42.000 I was too scared. 1.00
01:59:43.000 Can you Google licking a frog's ass? 1.00
01:59:46.000 Yeah, I'm doing that right now. 1.00
01:59:47.000 I just did.
01:59:48.000 The toad's venom is concentrated on the surface of its skin, and that's why licking is dangerous.
01:59:53.000 Smoking is a different story, however.
01:59:56.000 Yeah.
01:59:59.000 So it's too powerful if you lick it.
02:00:00.000 Too powerful if you lick it, because it's concentrated.
02:00:03.000 Hmm.
02:00:04.000 The toxic ingredient in the toad's venom is called bufotanine, which is burned off while smoking.
02:00:08.000 That's why it's dangerous.
02:00:09.000 Because the two things are in it.
02:00:11.000 If you burn it off, what's left is 5-MeO-DMT. So you don't want to lick it because if you lick it, it gives you bufotanine.
02:00:20.000 Bufotanine gets burned off while you smoke it.
02:00:22.000 That's why it's dangerous to lick it.
02:00:23.000 Yeah.
02:00:24.000 So I guess it really can't freak you out. 0.97
02:00:25.000 Does it say anything about the butthole? 0.93
02:00:26.000 So listen to this. 0.94
02:00:27.000 This is what's weird.
02:00:28.000 This frog, they're native to the Colorado River or Southern Arizona, California, and Northern New Mexico.
02:00:35.000 Even though 5-A-M-A-O-D-M-T is classified as an unscheduled substance, which means it's legal to possess, But the venom also contains bufotinine, which is scheduled, so you can be in possession of an illegal substance,
02:00:53.000 even though it's not a psychedelic.
02:00:54.000 The weird thing about 5-MeO is it's stronger than NNDMT. NNDMT is the one that gives you the crazy visuals.
02:01:02.000 But the stuff that we did the first time, that's 5-MeO.
02:01:05.000 It's even stronger than NN, and it's legal. 1.00
02:01:07.000 The one where I was screaming?
02:01:08.000 Yeah.
02:01:09.000 They missed that one.
02:01:11.000 In the sweeping Psychedelic Drug Act of 1970, they missed 5-MeO DMT. This is what I had bought.
02:01:17.000 A Colorado River Toad. 1.00
02:01:18.000 Yeah, that's the motherfucker. 1.00
02:01:19.000 Good thing you didn't lick it, dummy. 1.00
02:01:20.000 No. 0.98
02:01:21.000 Because you wouldn't have Googled it.
02:01:22.000 I didn't have Google back then.
02:01:24.000 It was right before I moved here to Los Angeles.
02:01:28.000 Well, anybody listening, please don't lick the toad because you can die.
02:01:32.000 Don't lick poisonous dart frogs.
02:01:34.000 Yeah, but if you take that stuff and you smoke it, it's DMT. You will trip your fucking balls off if you smoke the shit that comes from that toad's skin, which is really kind of crazy. 1.00
02:01:44.000 The difference between that and psilocybin is very similar. 1.00
02:01:49.000 Psilocybin also is NN-dimethyltryptamine.
02:01:52.000 It's got that and something else.
02:01:54.000 So psilocybin is like 4-Fox, 4-Loxley, NN-dimethyltryptamine.
02:02:00.000 So the last part of it is dimethyltryptamine.
02:02:03.000 Then 5-MeO-dimethyltryptamine, which is what these frogs have, is dimethyltryptamine with like an oxygen molecule attached to it.
02:02:10.000 So it has a different impact. 0.98
02:02:12.000 But all that shit that's, like, prevalent in children's books and folklore. 0.99
02:02:17.000 Like, all those elves... 0.99
02:02:19.000 That guy's name is Toad, and he has a mushroom head.
02:02:23.000 Yeah, and he has the head of the mushroom that's Santa Claus.
02:02:25.000 Dude, I'm telling you.
02:02:27.000 I think that's the people that are making books for kids.
02:02:31.000 Oh, absolutely.
02:02:32.000 You gotta kind of have had a mushroom trip to really want to help kids.
02:02:37.000 You know, and it's kind of like...
02:02:39.000 Oh, that's crazy.
02:02:40.000 I don't know, man.
02:02:40.000 There's a lot of mushrooms.
02:02:41.000 A lot of people want to have kids.
02:02:42.000 They don't have to trip on mushrooms.
02:02:43.000 I don't know, but I swear to God, I watch a lot of educational TV for children, and they bring up mushrooms a lot.
02:02:50.000 What is this?
02:02:50.000 It's a mushroom, and it's a red mushroom.
02:02:53.000 There's so many other things you could have brought up.
02:02:54.000 You're talking about mushrooms.
02:02:57.000 Mushrooms come up a lot in children's books and in their TV. I don't know what it means.
02:03:01.000 Super Mario Brothers.
02:03:02.000 Yeah, well, think about Lewis Carroll and think about Alice in Wonderland.
02:03:06.000 It was all about acid.
02:03:06.000 Yeah.
02:03:07.000 Right now, there's billboards everywhere all over LA. There's a new show called Wonderland or something, and there's a guy and a girl that look in each other's eyes.
02:03:13.000 In the background, all these mushrooms, red-topped, like those...
02:03:17.000 Amanita Mascara?
02:03:18.000 Yeah.
02:03:18.000 Yeah, those mushrooms are what they believe to be Santa Claus, because it even looks like Santa Claus.
02:03:23.000 Those mushrooms also, this is where it gets really crazy if you haven't heard the whole spiel before.
02:03:28.000 They have a symbiotic relationship with carniferous trees, like pine trees.
02:03:33.000 They grow under pine trees.
02:03:35.000 They have a mycorrhizal relationship with the soil.
02:03:38.000 Like those trees, that's where those things always grow.
02:03:40.000 They feed off of each other. 0.99
02:03:42.000 So this fucking thing is always underneath these trees. 1.00
02:03:45.000 Just like brightly colored gifts that are always underneath Christmas trees. 1.00
02:03:48.000 Why are Christmas trees always pine trees?
02:03:50.000 Why do Christmas trees have these ornaments hanging in them?
02:03:53.000 You know how crazy you sound right now?
02:03:55.000 They used to pull them out of the bottom of these trees and then hang them in the tree to dry them out.
02:03:59.000 The other way they dried them out was they would hang them in front of fireplaces.
02:04:03.000 That's why socks are white and red.
02:04:05.000 Christmas socks are white and red. 1.00
02:04:07.000 Who the fuck has white and red socks? 1.00
02:04:09.000 Nobody. 1.00
02:04:11.000 Why would you hang your socks in front of the fireplace like that?
02:04:14.000 Because that's how they dried out mushrooms. 0.80
02:04:15.000 They used to tie them to strings and dangle in front of the fire and that's how they dried them out.
02:04:19.000 That's how they preserved them.
02:04:21.000 It's like everything about it has to do with shamans and everything about it has a connection to this mushroom.
02:04:28.000 And that mushroom was synonymous. 1.00
02:04:30.000 The Amanita muscaria mushroom was synonymous with reindeers because reindeer love those fucking things. 0.99
02:04:35.000 Reindeer or caribou, caribou live in Siberia. 0.99
02:04:38.000 That's where they live up there. 0.99
02:04:39.000 And these motherfuckers, when you're in a shaman's hut and they're all eating Amanita muscaria mushrooms and having these tribal ceremonies, They would go outside to piss, and the caribou would literally knock them over to get to their piss. 0.99
02:04:53.000 Because their piss had Amanita muscaria smell to it. 1.00
02:04:57.000 Damn, Hamilton Morrison did it on Vice. 1.00
02:05:00.000 Of course he did. 0.99
02:05:01.000 He's done everything.
02:05:02.000 Did mushrooms?
02:05:03.000 On the show? 0.57
02:05:04.000 You puke a lot.
02:05:05.000 This is the Amanita?
02:05:06.000 Yeah, there's part one, two, and three on the frogs.
02:05:09.000 He's done the frog, too.
02:05:11.000 Well, there's another type of frog.
02:05:12.000 If he shows a scar...
02:05:13.000 There's a different thing.
02:05:14.000 There's another type of frog where you take the venom of the frog and you cut yourself and you take this toad's venom and you put it like directly into your skin and somehow or another by doing that by doing it I think they burn themselves like they burn themselves like with ash like an ember and then they put the frog like so it opens up the pores and they put the frog's venom right into them and they have this transcendent transcendent experience Is that Hamilton Morris?
02:05:42.000 My stomach is in excruciating pain. 0.53
02:05:45.000 He's such a freak.
02:05:47.000 I love this guy.
02:05:48.000 Is that a frog?
02:05:49.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:05:49.000 Yeah, see they burn you and then they stick this shit in on you. 1.00
02:05:55.000 And you trip your balls off. 1.00
02:05:57.000 You go meet with the spirit world.
02:06:00.000 But, you know, people throughout history have come up with a bunch of different methods to transcend normal reality, normal consciousness.
02:06:09.000 And in different parts of the world, when they were stuck in some area that didn't have mushrooms, they figured out what Datura does.
02:06:16.000 They figured out what does this cactus do if you light it on fire?
02:06:20.000 What's in this bush?
02:06:22.000 People have been finding that stuff forever.
02:06:25.000 The scholars in Jerusalem think that that was what Moses was seeing when he went to the burning bush.
02:06:30.000 He saw the burning bush that was God.
02:06:31.000 He gave him the Ten Commandments.
02:06:32.000 They believe that was DMT. Because the bushes they have, like the acacia bush, very rich in DMT. It's all over that area.
02:06:40.000 Bush, burning, DMT, light DMT on fire, get high.
02:06:44.000 It's so obvious.
02:06:45.000 The crazy experience I had.
02:06:46.000 With mushrooms back in 2008, I did five grams, specifically five grams, weighed it, put it in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and went to the zoo.
02:06:56.000 And that was a bad choice, bad decision. 0.99
02:07:00.000 Yeah, you must have got fucked up. 1.00
02:07:00.000 It was a bad decision. 1.00
02:07:01.000 I thought, hey, we'd be with animals and it'd be all about love.
02:07:04.000 We get that.
02:07:05.000 I went with the chick, and while we were checking out the gorillas is when it hit, And all we wanted to do is just sit in the shade, not look at the animals, close our eyes, and the visuals you get are just amazing.
02:07:17.000 When people say, oh, that's in your head, you made that up.
02:07:20.000 There's no way. 0.99
02:07:21.000 If I made that up, it would be fragmented and all fucked up. 0.99
02:07:24.000 There's no way. 0.98
02:07:25.000 As soon as I close my eyes, there's a show waiting for me.
02:07:28.000 In my opinion, there's no way.
02:07:31.000 I'm doing this.
02:07:32.000 If I was running the show, it would not look like that.
02:07:34.000 I don't have the ability.
02:07:37.000 What they believe is that what you're doing is you're hijacking...
02:07:42.000 Your visual cortex.
02:07:43.000 And so that these chemicals impact your visual cortex and create this incredible display because your body does not know how to process what's coming in.
02:07:54.000 That's the idea behind it.
02:07:56.000 But it doesn't, it doesn't.
02:07:57.000 What I've always said is it doesn't matter.
02:07:59.000 Because whether you're creating it, whether it's real or not real, it's still the same experience.
02:08:04.000 Whether it's real or not real.
02:08:05.000 What is real?
02:08:07.000 When it breaks down to it, you're actually seeing that.
02:08:09.000 So whether or not that's your imagination that's creating it, that's how people like to dismiss things.
02:08:13.000 Oh, it's just in your imagination.
02:08:15.000 No, it's not, and it doesn't matter even if it is, because it's still the same thing.
02:08:19.000 It's still this insane, crazy thing that you're looking at. 0.95
02:08:22.000 So even if it is your imagination, it's still the wildest fucking thing you're ever going to see in your life. 0.97
02:08:27.000 So hard to explain. 0.96
02:08:29.000 The only way I could explain it is like, It's like those visualizers on your iTunes times a thousand.
02:08:35.000 It's perfect.
02:08:36.000 It's not broken up.
02:08:37.000 To me, in my opinion, something else is creating it.
02:08:41.000 I don't know what it is, but something is creating that because there's no way I can create this amazing art.
02:08:47.000 And it's perfect and perfectly symmetric and it's like snakes of just crazy.
02:08:54.000 So after like five minutes of just sitting there at the zoo, we had like a fear and loathing in Las Vegas moment where we just had to get out.
02:09:02.000 We ran to the parking lot and it's at the LA Zoo and we're looking at the mountains.
02:09:08.000 I'm like, are you looking at the mountains?
02:09:09.000 Look at the mountains.
02:09:10.000 And I instantly understood what all the Aztec art was all about.
02:09:16.000 I'm like, that's what they're seeing.
02:09:18.000 I go, you look at the mountains, we're dancing.
02:09:20.000 And the guy who gave it to me goes, dude, the clouds are going to dance for you.
02:09:23.000 I thought that was a metaphor.
02:09:24.000 I didn't know he actually meant that.
02:09:26.000 And any time you focus on something for one second, you look at the clouds, they start dancing for you all perfectly.
02:09:31.000 It's like, what?
02:09:32.000 It's a weird feeling because it feels like something's there all the time.
02:09:36.000 You just can't see it.
02:09:37.000 That's what it feels like.
02:09:38.000 Whenever I've been on mushrooms, like when I was talking about the one where Doug and I took the Amanita Muscaria and then the Psilocybin, The feeling I got, and it didn't last very long because there was so many things going through our head, and it was the day of the Iraq war, the day the war started, so it was a pretty freaky moment.
02:09:54.000 But I saw this honeycomb pattern in front of me, like where everything, I saw like the pattern of the universe, and it like occurred to me like, oh, this is here all the time.
02:10:03.000 I just don't see it.
02:10:05.000 And that's what it feels like when you see those things dancing.
02:10:08.000 Absolutely.
02:10:08.000 It was incredible.
02:10:10.000 It was so hard.
02:10:11.000 That was the craziest drive home.
02:10:13.000 The first time I saw Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, I thought, man, this is so unrealistic. 0.99
02:10:18.000 You don't see shit like that when you get high. 0.99
02:10:20.000 I've been high plenty of times. 1.00
02:10:21.000 You don't.
02:10:22.000 But I understood it because the drive home, I didn't know. 0.50
02:10:25.000 I should have been dead.
02:10:26.000 There's no way I should have made it home.
02:10:28.000 I didn't know if there was cars next to me that were right here.
02:10:32.000 It felt like I was driving through a jungle.
02:10:35.000 It was crazy.
02:10:36.000 I remember you called me and said, dude, the road turned into flower petals.
02:10:40.000 Yes, yes.
02:10:41.000 I was being guided by...
02:10:43.000 I was in a jungle and there was flowers and green moss and I'm driving through it and I could see the cars in the distance but just in my little cube, my little circle, I was in the forest.
02:10:54.000 I can't believe you drove through that.
02:10:56.000 I should have been dead.
02:10:57.000 I don't recommend that.
02:10:59.000 If you're going to experiment with psychedelics, stay home.
02:11:02.000 Stay where you're at.
02:11:04.000 Because the show, the great part of it is being in a dark room and closing your eyes and checking out the light show in your head.
02:11:11.000 It's not like you pass out or anything.
02:11:13.000 If you smoke DMT, you pass out and it's kind of like you're in a dream state.
02:11:17.000 But with Mushrooms, you're completely conscious.
02:11:20.000 You're talking, but as soon as you close your eyes, it isn't like it takes 10, 15, 20 seconds to dissolve into the show.
02:11:27.000 The instant you close your eyes, it's right there waiting for you.
02:11:31.000 It's like right in front of your eyes, and it's deep.
02:11:34.000 It's like five-dimensional, and it's perfect.
02:11:36.000 There's nothing breaking off.
02:11:38.000 To me, there was some intelligence behind it.
02:11:42.000 Well, it certainly feels like there's some intelligence behind it.
02:11:44.000 But the thing that's always struck me as weird is it always feels like it's there all the time.
02:11:48.000 Yeah.
02:11:48.000 Like, whenever I do DMT, one of the weirdest things that happens is this feeling like, oh, I've been here before.
02:11:53.000 Even before I ever did it.
02:11:55.000 The first time I ever did it, I was like, I've been here before.
02:11:58.000 I know this place.
02:11:59.000 Like, I know this place.
02:12:00.000 You know?
02:12:01.000 I don't know why.
02:12:02.000 I felt that with mushrooms also.
02:12:04.000 Yeah.
02:12:04.000 It seems like all those hallucinogens, like, I've done this before.
02:12:08.000 Well, one of the reasons, most likely, is that mushrooms and DMT, all these things mimic human neurochemistry.
02:12:15.000 So the real wonder is, what's happening to you while you're sleeping?
02:12:20.000 What's happening to you for that six to eight hours, whatever it is, where you're out cold?
02:12:23.000 They don't really know, but they do know that the human mind mimics the reactions to dimethyltryptomy.
02:12:31.000 Not only does it produce dimethyltryptomy, but it produces similar reactions, like dreams.
02:12:36.000 When you're done with a dream, it's hard to remember it.
02:12:39.000 You know how that is?
02:12:41.000 You know, it's weird, man.
02:12:42.000 It's like the dream is so amazing. 0.98
02:12:44.000 I've said to myself, too, like, oh, I don't have to write this down because I'm going to remember it because I'm a lazy bitch. 0.89
02:12:49.000 I don't want to get up and write something down. 0.74
02:12:50.000 I'm like, I'm not going to forget this. 0.99
02:12:52.000 Then I wake up in the morning like, what the fuck was it? 0.88
02:12:53.000 I don't remember it at all. 0.97
02:12:56.000 DMT is the same way.
02:12:57.000 You do DMT and the dream just, whatever it was, whatever the experience was, disappears.
02:13:02.000 Like in the morning, you can't remember it.
02:13:04.000 Or when it's over, rather, you can't remember it.
02:13:06.000 Well, how about when you're dreaming, you don't remember reality?
02:13:09.000 Exactly.
02:13:09.000 Right?
02:13:10.000 It's true.
02:13:10.000 You don't remember it so much that your uncle could be David Cassidy and you'd be like, fine with it.
02:13:16.000 You know what I mean?
02:13:17.000 You're like, you're totally cool with it. 0.99
02:13:18.000 You're not going, wait a minute, how the fuck is he my uncle? 0.98
02:13:21.000 You're like, yeah, he's my uncle. 0.99
02:13:22.000 The Partridge family?
02:13:24.000 Wait a minute.
02:13:24.000 I actually had a dream like that.
02:13:25.000 Did you really?
02:13:26.000 David Cassidy?
02:13:27.000 Random people would show up in my dream.
02:13:30.000 You accept it.
02:13:32.000 You remember this dimension as much as you remember your dream state when you're in this dimension.
02:13:36.000 So it's like, man, what is it really?
02:13:39.000 And when you think about that we're all empty space, that quantum theory where...
02:13:45.000 At the subatomic levels, we're 99.9999% empty like this.
02:13:50.000 This is empty.
02:13:52.000 Your body's empty.
02:13:53.000 How is that possible?
02:13:55.000 It's solid.
02:13:56.000 How is it possible that this is empty when you look at it at the subatomic level?
02:14:00.000 How is that possible?
02:14:01.000 It's so hard to wrap your brain around.
02:14:03.000 Well, we had that Amit Goswami guy on the podcast.
02:14:05.000 Yeah, I heard that great, great podcast.
02:14:08.000 Yeah, but did you understand a word he was saying?
02:14:10.000 Some of it.
02:14:11.000 Some of it.
02:14:12.000 I faked it through some of it.
02:14:14.000 I wonder if it has, like, the reason this is solid, I wonder, you know, because electromagnetic energy is running through everything, right?
02:14:20.000 So that's, it seems like it must be powering everything.
02:14:24.000 Like, where do we get our electricity?
02:14:25.000 Like, we're plugged into the universe somehows.
02:14:28.000 And according to science, we're just flooded with electromagnetic energy and it's just running through everything.
02:14:34.000 So it seems like that's how we might be plugged in and that's what's giving us the power because it's not our muscles that are doing anything.
02:14:42.000 It's the electric pulses that are doing it.
02:14:45.000 That's where you're getting your strength from.
02:14:46.000 And that's what's running your heart.
02:14:48.000 You know, your heart isn't just beating.
02:14:50.000 It's connected to this ocean of electromagnetic energy that we're in.
02:14:54.000 So if we're electromagnetic energy, magnets might have something to do with it.
02:15:01.000 So I'm thinking, you know, when you try to put a magnet together, there's like nothing there, but it's solid.
02:15:05.000 Like maybe the subatomic particles that were created...
02:15:09.000 It's maybe, it's solid because it's really just a magnet in its own little unique form.
02:15:13.000 Like, it's really not there.
02:15:15.000 It's not, but the way it's, the photons or whatever, I'm just making shit up, are put together.
02:15:21.000 The way they're put together, it's a certain form of magnet.
02:15:24.000 Like, this is this kind of magnet.
02:15:26.000 It's the skin magnet, but it's really not there.
02:15:28.000 Just like when you try to put two magnets. 0.99
02:15:30.000 What the fuck are you talking about? 0.98
02:15:30.000 Well, we're all empty space. 0.98
02:15:32.000 I don't get the magnet thing.
02:15:34.000 Well, when you try to put two magnets together, you can't.
02:15:36.000 Because it's like you don't see anything there, but you just can't.
02:15:39.000 It's just something solid.
02:15:40.000 You can't if you flip it.
02:15:42.000 But you know what I'm saying?
02:15:43.000 There's nothing there, yet it's solid.
02:15:45.000 Like, they're saying something's there.
02:15:47.000 So maybe since we're all running through electromagnetic energy, now this is just my crazy stone theory, maybe it has some...
02:15:54.000 Because people are baffled. 0.98
02:15:55.000 The top scientists don't even know what the fuck... 0.97
02:15:58.000 How is this empty space? 0.99
02:15:59.000 How is this empty space when it's solid to us?
02:16:01.000 Maybe it has something to do with particles being magnetized.
02:16:09.000 Who knows?
02:16:11.000 These are just theories.
02:16:13.000 There's not in a book anywhere.
02:16:14.000 The reality of quantum mechanics, this is what we absolutely know, is that particles can be in a state of superposition, which means they're moving and they're still at the same time.
02:16:23.000 They blink in and out of existence.
02:16:26.000 Millions of times per second.
02:16:28.000 And particles from here, they could be on the other side of the planet and they react instantaneously, faster than the speed of light.
02:16:36.000 They've done experiments where they'll split up A photon.
02:16:39.000 And they separated by 14 miles or whatever.
02:16:42.000 One experiment was 14 miles there in different labs.
02:16:45.000 And whatever they did to this half of the photon, the other half reacted in the exact same way.
02:16:51.000 With no lag.
02:16:52.000 With no lag at all.
02:16:53.000 They don't understand it.
02:16:55.000 So just that alone, that's science fiction.
02:16:59.000 Those are all the clues.
02:17:00.000 They can blink in and out of existence. 0.99
02:17:01.000 Shit, how does it work? 1.00
02:17:03.000 I think there's something way more to this world Then we're ever going to be able to wrap our heads around with what our crude minds and bodies can perceive of the reality that we exist in. 0.99
02:17:14.000 I think we have this idea that the reality that we exist in, the measurable reality we exist in is all there is.
02:17:19.000 Yeah.
02:17:19.000 But I think there's probably a whole soup of possibilities that we're swimming in.
02:17:23.000 We don't know shit. 0.98
02:17:24.000 We're not interacting with it. 1.00
02:17:26.000 We don't know shit. 0.98
02:17:27.000 But we also know it exists. 0.96
02:17:29.000 Like, that's karma.
02:17:30.000 You know?
02:17:31.000 That's love.
02:17:33.000 That's momentum.
02:17:34.000 And you start having good things go your way.
02:17:36.000 Good things tend to stay going your way.
02:17:38.000 And it all sorts of feed into other good things.
02:17:41.000 There seems to be, like...
02:17:43.000 A way the universe would like you to react and behave.
02:17:47.000 And it rewards you with a positive experience.
02:17:50.000 It rewards you with love. 0.98
02:17:52.000 And if you pay attention to people that are living like a fucking disaster of a life, the universe is not rewarding them. 0.99
02:17:58.000 At every turn, it's fucking them up. 0.99
02:18:00.000 Their car is breaking down. 0.98
02:18:01.000 They're getting arrested. 1.00
02:18:02.000 Their girl hits them in the head with a fucking frying pan while they're sleeping. 1.00
02:18:04.000 It's like a constant stream of shit keeps coming their way until eventually they either die or get locked up. 1.00
02:18:11.000 And it's like the universe is setting that up as well. 0.99
02:18:14.000 It's like it's rewarding or not rewarding the correct behavior or the incorrect behavior.
02:18:19.000 Life is so perfect and so beautiful and so just incredible.
02:18:24.000 I mean, as humans, we have the intelligence to make satellites and rockets and airplanes, but we can't even make a flea.
02:18:32.000 We can't make a flea. 1.00
02:18:33.000 We have no idea how that shit works. 1.00
02:18:35.000 Yeah, make a flea that can fuck and make another flea, too. 1.00
02:18:38.000 How come we can't make a tree? 0.99
02:18:40.000 We can't make a tree.
02:18:41.000 We think we gotta figure it out.
02:18:43.000 We think there is no higher intelligence out there, some kind of something.
02:18:48.000 Come on.
02:18:49.000 It might even just be law.
02:18:50.000 You know, it might just be a law of the universe or, you know, instead of a law, like an equation, like, you know, positive and love and this and that, it moves towards this direction.
02:19:01.000 Negative and horrible and evil moves towards that direction.
02:19:05.000 And it's almost like the two need each other to do battle back and forth and to empower the other.
02:19:11.000 Absolutely.
02:19:12.000 You know, Esther Hicks says, you know, it makes sense.
02:19:14.000 Like, you, we're here, who knows if this is true, this is just something that someone said that it seems pretty awesome to me, that it seems that we're here, we're existing, we're supposed to feel the pain, because if we don't feel the pain, we're not going to appreciate the good stuff,
02:19:30.000 and it's not going to feel as good.
02:19:32.000 Like, she uses an example, your best meal is always eaten when you're hungriest.
02:19:37.000 And that totally makes sense. 0.96
02:19:38.000 If you're never hungry, you won't really give a fuck about food. 0.97
02:19:42.000 If you're born a billionaire, you don't care about money. 0.97
02:19:44.000 You don't care about what it can buy.
02:19:46.000 So it's almost like we need the pain.
02:19:51.000 It's almost like we're here for the pain.
02:19:53.000 Well, there's certainly reward systems built in, and it seems like if you look at all the animals on this planet at least, there's a struggle that's going on constantly.
02:20:02.000 Nobody lives easy.
02:20:04.000 Everybody's struggling.
02:20:05.000 You're struggling to find food, you're struggling to keep off predators, you're struggling to keep your young alive.
02:20:11.000 And it seems like it's set up that way.
02:20:13.000 It seems like it could be way easier if there was total harmony in the animal world.
02:20:18.000 Isn't life and success what they're looking for? 0.99
02:20:21.000 Wouldn't they all just be fucking and eating plants? 0.99
02:20:24.000 Wouldn't that be the best way to go about it? 1.00
02:20:26.000 But no.
02:20:26.000 It seems like the struggle's built into the whole code of life.
02:20:31.000 And there's a battle to try to figure out how to do it right.
02:20:34.000 Well, we want the struggle in a lot of things.
02:20:36.000 In movies, we don't want to go to a movie where there's no conflict or nothing bad happens.
02:20:40.000 That would be the worst movie ever.
02:20:42.000 The greatest movies are the ones that take you down to the depths and you buy it.
02:20:48.000 You suspend your disbelief and you're down there and then you come up with it and the story's believable and you lose yourself in the movie. 0.96
02:20:55.000 But without the conflict, the movie sucks.
02:20:57.000 Do you worry about that with your kid?
02:21:00.000 Like, in a certain way I do with my kids, it's like, I don't want my kids to experience a lot of adversity.
02:21:05.000 Just, you want to protect your children.
02:21:07.000 But I know that all the people that I know that experience adversity are the most interesting people.
02:21:12.000 You know, all the people that we know, think about all the people that we know.
02:21:16.000 Think of, like, Joey Diaz.
02:21:18.000 He's one of the most interesting guys ever, because his life was completely crazy.
02:21:22.000 Like, his life was full, total chaos.
02:21:24.000 Like, the adversity you had to go through, the adversity I had to go through, the adversity Callan had to go through. 0.99
02:21:29.000 Like, all the people that we know that are interesting, they all had kind of a fucked up life. 0.99
02:21:34.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:21:35.000 What's that about?
02:21:37.000 Do you think that you could get away with just exposing your kid to difficult things like jujitsu?
02:21:43.000 Like exposing them to martial arts and maybe they could develop their character that way without having to go through the horrible ups and downs of...
02:21:53.000 I don't know if jujitsu promotes or guarantees a great sense of humor and the ability to make other people laugh, but the one thing in my experience that I know that Jiu Jitsu does for children.
02:22:06.000 Absolutely.
02:22:07.000 And it has a lot to do with what you always talk about.
02:22:11.000 When a kid doesn't have martial arts, and Jiu Jitsu specifically, because of the tapping and...
02:22:19.000 Getting tapped out, what that shows you, that automatically in jiu-jitsu you know where you stand.
02:22:25.000 You know where you stand.
02:22:26.000 You know that you're a blue belt.
02:22:27.000 You're probably not going to beat purple belts that much.
02:22:30.000 But when you do, you'll get your purple belt.
02:22:33.000 And you're probably not going to beat brown belts and black belts that much in the beginning.
02:22:36.000 But when you start doing it, then you get your brown belt and so on and your black belt.
02:22:39.000 So when a kid comes into jiu-jitsu and he's four years old, five years old, he knows that he's...
02:22:45.000 Not going to...
02:22:46.000 Rarely going to beat the 7-year-olds.
02:22:48.000 And when he's 7, he's rarely going to beat the 10-year-olds.
02:22:50.000 So that teaches...
02:22:51.000 If they don't go through that, there is a possibility.
02:22:54.000 Not always.
02:22:55.000 There's plenty of great kids that have never done jiu-jitsu.
02:22:58.000 But what I've seen with jiu-jitsu kids, it almost...
02:23:02.000 Guarantees that they won't be delusional and become a douchebag kid.
02:23:06.000 Because if you're not checked that way with a tap, like reminding you that this guy's 15 years old, you better respect that 15-year-old.
02:23:14.000 And then what ends up happening is when you become 15, you know what it was like going through the early stages of jiu-jitsu.
02:23:22.000 So I see kids that are 10 and 11 are great with the 5-year-olds and great with the 6-year-olds.
02:23:27.000 It takes you out of that delusionary state and lets you know that you better respect your elders.
02:23:32.000 And as you get older, you better respect the kids, too, because they're going to get older, too.
02:23:36.000 So what jujitsu really does is it instills discipline in you like most people think martial arts does, like karate and taekwondo.
02:23:45.000 And that definitely works, too, because it does promote discipline.
02:23:48.000 But jujitsu does it, I think, better because of the tapping.
02:23:54.000 Most kids that I know that are good at jiu-jitsu, they have a tremendous relationship with their father.
02:24:00.000 It brings them tighter.
02:24:02.000 Traveling all over the world like I do with all these seminars.
02:24:07.000 I don't know how many times I've met kids, these jiu-jitsu phenoms that are eight, nine years old, and their dads bring them to jiu-jitsu, and their best friends, Avery, down in...
02:24:18.000 He used to be in Springfield.
02:24:20.000 Now he's in Omaha.
02:24:21.000 He's 16 now.
02:24:22.000 Him and his dad are best friends.
02:24:23.000 When I run into them, I'm like, man!
02:24:26.000 Give me advice.
02:24:28.000 What else did you do?
02:24:29.000 Because you see it over and over again.
02:24:31.000 So for those of you with kids out there, and maybe you're having trouble with the kids, try to talk them into jiu-jitsu.
02:24:37.000 It might be hard, but I think that if you're having trouble with your kids, or you want to ensure a beautiful relationship, a tight relationship, a trusting relationship, a relationship where your kid wants to hang out with his pop, and you do jiu-jitsu too, you do it with your kid,
02:24:53.000 that...
02:24:54.000 That's just a little something that I've learned.
02:24:55.000 That's a little insight.
02:24:56.000 You can take that for what it is.
02:24:58.000 I'm just trying to...
02:25:00.000 No, it's good advice.
02:25:01.000 Anything a kid can do that's difficult, it's good for their personality development.
02:25:04.000 One of the real problems with kids today is because everything's handed to you.
02:25:07.000 You don't develop character because you don't ever face adversity.
02:25:10.000 Your food comes from a supermarket. 0.99
02:25:11.000 You can go to a store and get whatever the fuck you need. 0.99
02:25:14.000 You know, it's not hard. 0.99
02:25:16.000 It's easy to live life.
02:25:17.000 And so when you're not tested, especially as a young person, Like, a lot of bullying comes from insecurity.
02:25:23.000 And people say, like, what's the best way to stop bullying?
02:25:26.000 I always say the best way to stop bullying is teach kids how to fight.
02:25:29.000 If you had, like, mandatory jiu-jitsu classes, if you had mandatory martial arts classes in school, you would have a whole lot less bullying.
02:25:36.000 Because, first of all, they wouldn't be inclined to do it, and second of all, it wouldn't work. 0.98
02:25:41.000 Like, if a guy is talented and skilled and he's 155 pounds and there's an asshole that's 180 pounds that's fucking with him, he's not gonna back down. 0.99
02:25:48.000 They're gonna figure out a way around it. 0.99
02:25:50.000 The kid's gonna be able to figure out a way. 1.00
02:25:51.000 Like, listen, you know, if you want to fucking fight, you want to be an asshole and pick on me, I have to fucking defend myself, then I'll defend myself. 1.00
02:25:57.000 But it's not like he's gonna be terrified and not know what the fuck to do. 1.00
02:26:00.000 It's gonna be a completely different scenario. 0.88
02:26:02.000 And I think that one of the reasons why people do it in the first place is they're trying to They're trying to prove that they aren't scared themselves.
02:26:09.000 The reason why people are bullies, why they have that instinct is they're insecure.
02:26:12.000 They're trying to be dominant without, you know, without putting in the work.
02:26:16.000 But if you put in the work, if you do jujitsu, if you learn a martial art, you actually develop some proficiency, you don't have that need.
02:26:22.000 You don't have that need to dominate people.
02:26:24.000 You don't have to need.
02:26:25.000 You get it all out.
02:26:25.000 You get it all out in the gym.
02:26:26.000 All my bullies were in the wrestling team.
02:26:30.000 So that kind of like...
02:26:31.000 No.
02:26:31.000 Wrestling's different.
02:26:32.000 Wrestling's a sport.
02:26:33.000 And probably they're just sick of you.
02:26:38.000 No, I mean, did you have bullies growing up?
02:26:41.000 Not really.
02:26:41.000 I mean, I was bullied before I started doing martial arts, but from like 14 on, not really.
02:26:46.000 Because I was like thinking about, like all my bullies were all guys in sports.
02:26:50.000 Like football team, wrestling, mostly wrestling.
02:26:52.000 Football, big time, yeah.
02:26:52.000 A lot of wrestlers.
02:26:53.000 Yeah, with bullies in what way?
02:26:55.000 Like how were you bullied?
02:26:56.000 You know, like, just pushed around on the playground and stuff like that.
02:27:00.000 What year are you talking about?
02:27:02.000 I'm talking about middle school, elementary and middle school.
02:27:05.000 They used to trip you?
02:27:06.000 Yeah, trip you, like, when you're walking and stuff like that. 0.53
02:27:09.000 Wow, you got dicked with. 0.99
02:27:11.000 Yeah, I was fucked with a lot, but then, like, in high school it went away. 1.00
02:27:14.000 It's a douchebag move, man, to be a bully. 1.00
02:27:16.000 It's one of the worst things a person can do. 0.97
02:27:17.000 Yeah.
02:27:18.000 And it's a weird, natural human weakness. 1.00
02:27:20.000 It's a weakness instinct to, like, shut the fuck up, bitch. 1.00
02:27:25.000 Yeah, my shit was mostly because my parents were divorced and I was poor, I think, was the big why they picked on me. 1.00
02:27:32.000 Did they pick on you because you were poor? 0.99
02:27:33.000 Yeah, because I lived in Worthington, which is a higher-end place in Columbus, but I was living on that one part that was all apartments that shouldn't have been in there, but somehow I was in Worthington.
02:27:46.000 So they knew I was poor, and my parents were divorced back then.
02:27:50.000 Back then, divorce wasn't as crazy.
02:27:52.000 As it is now, where, you know, if you're divorced...
02:27:54.000 Yeah, it was unusual back then.
02:27:55.000 Yeah, a little bit more unusual, yeah.
02:27:57.000 Isn't that weird?
02:27:58.000 That, like, when we were younger, people didn't bother getting divorced?
02:28:00.000 Or they didn't happen nearly as much?
02:28:02.000 Not in my neighborhood.
02:28:04.000 Everybody got divorced.
02:28:05.000 All my friends didn't have fathers.
02:28:08.000 All of them except one.
02:28:09.000 Inorio Galvin, he's the only one out of maybe 15 friends that we had growing up.
02:28:14.000 Every father left.
02:28:16.000 You grew up in a really poor neighborhood.
02:28:18.000 It was all Mexican. 0.98
02:28:19.000 Mexicans be leaving. 1.00
02:28:20.000 They get drunk and go back to Mexico and say, fuck that. 1.00
02:28:23.000 Isn't that weird, man? 1.00
02:28:24.000 People that don't take care of their kids.
02:28:26.000 As a father now, doesn't that freak you out?
02:28:28.000 Yeah, man.
02:28:29.000 I can't imagine it.
02:28:30.000 Freaks me out.
02:28:30.000 My father had 19 kids from 8 different chicks.
02:28:33.000 Oh my god.
02:28:35.000 19. Is he still alive?
02:28:36.000 I don't know. 0.92
02:28:37.000 What kind of crazy hell does that guy live in when he closes his eyes at night?
02:28:40.000 The last time I saw him, I was 27. And he... 0.82
02:28:45.000 My...
02:28:47.000 On my mom's side, my mom's mother and father, they stayed together to the very end.
02:28:51.000 They were married 50 plus years and had 10 kids.
02:28:54.000 And my dad told me, first he told me at 14, I saw him at 14, then I saw him at 27. At 14, he tries to shove advice down my throat and he said, make sure you marry, when you marry your wife, she's at least 15 years younger than you.
02:29:08.000 He told me that, I remember that.
02:29:10.000 And he also said, and my wife is 15 years younger than me.
02:29:14.000 It wasn't strategic, but it just happened that way.
02:29:17.000 And the other thing he told me at 14 was be nice to kids because they grow up really fast and they'll turn into adults.
02:29:25.000 So he was trying to give me the right advice.
02:29:27.000 And then at 27, I hadn't seen him in forever.
02:29:29.000 I thought he was dead.
02:29:30.000 He shows up one day.
02:29:31.000 And my grandfather's house goes, do what you...
02:29:34.000 He's older.
02:29:35.000 He's like, do what your grandfather did.
02:29:37.000 That's the way.
02:29:38.000 Have kids every Christmas and Thanksgiving.
02:29:40.000 He has all his family and all his grandkids.
02:29:43.000 That's the way.
02:29:44.000 If I had to do it over, I would do it that way.
02:29:45.000 That's what he said.
02:29:46.000 He was a massive player just banging everything and just getting everybody pregnant. 1.00
02:29:51.000 Wow, that's so sad.
02:29:53.000 Yeah.
02:29:53.000 That's a sad life, man.
02:29:54.000 Yeah.
02:29:55.000 And I asked him, I go, what made you want to come by this time?
02:29:58.000 I was like, he hadn't been around and I just...
02:30:01.000 I heard he showed up to my grandfather's house.
02:30:03.000 He had been friends with my grandfather while he was messing with my mom and him and my grandfather got along.
02:30:07.000 And my aunt called and goes, your dad's...
02:30:09.000 Get over here now. 0.99
02:30:11.000 Your dad's at your grandma's.
02:30:12.000 And I'm in Hollywood.
02:30:13.000 I drive down to Orange County.
02:30:15.000 And the whole drive down, I'm like, I'm not going to give him a hard time.
02:30:18.000 I hadn't seen him in...
02:30:19.000 Like 13 years.
02:30:20.000 I'm not going to give him a hard time.
02:30:21.000 I'm just going to start over.
02:30:22.000 I get another chance with my father.
02:30:24.000 I was like, it was a long drive.
02:30:25.000 It was like an hour drive.
02:30:26.000 And show up at my grandma's house and I'm happy, got a smile. 0.99
02:30:29.000 I'm like, damn! 0.99
02:30:30.000 I thought he was dead. 0.99
02:30:31.000 I'd have dreams of him dying and he's...
02:30:33.000 Is this real?
02:30:34.000 He's right here? 1.00
02:30:35.000 Shit. 1.00
02:30:36.000 Let's go out to eat. 1.00
02:30:37.000 We went to Black Angus in Tustin.
02:30:39.000 My mom went.
02:30:40.000 We're all sitting there. 1.00
02:30:41.000 I'm like, fuck. 1.00
02:30:42.000 We get a second chance. 1.00
02:30:43.000 Meanwhile, I'm all happy to see my father.
02:30:46.000 My mom wants to see me more than I actually drive down and see her.
02:30:50.000 But now I want to start another relationship with my father.
02:30:53.000 So then I asked my father, And at this point, I didn't know about his 19 kids.
02:30:58.000 At this point, I thought he had five kids.
02:31:00.000 I knew he was married, had five kids, and he was seeing my mom on the side.
02:31:03.000 I knew that.
02:31:04.000 My mom was his side girl.
02:31:05.000 That's what I knew at this point.
02:31:06.000 And I said, why did you come by this time?
02:31:10.000 I'm curious.
02:31:11.000 And I was expecting him to say, it's been so long, I wanted to see what's become of you.
02:31:17.000 And he said, I was passing through Orange County, and I wanted to see if your grandfather was still cool with me.
02:31:24.000 I didn't know if he...
02:31:25.000 Was mad at me or anything.
02:31:26.000 Wow. 1.00
02:31:27.000 And I just kept a smile on and right there, right there looked at my mom and I'm like, fuck this dude. 1.00
02:31:33.000 Fuck this guy. 1.00
02:31:34.000 I'm going to spend time with my mom. 1.00
02:31:36.000 Fuck that dude. 1.00
02:31:37.000 And I just kept a smile on and right there I made the decision. 1.00
02:31:39.000 I will never see this guy ever again.
02:31:41.000 And I never did.
02:31:43.000 But, during that dinner, he did say, hey, two of his kids live in LA, the ones from that family.
02:31:49.000 He goes, they want to have dinner with you.
02:31:50.000 They want to meet you.
02:31:51.000 So I did end up meeting with them, never saw them again.
02:31:53.000 They're the ones who told me.
02:31:55.000 They sat me down at the old spaghetti factory in Hollywood when I was 27. And they go, do you have any idea how many kids your father has?
02:32:02.000 I said, five plus me?
02:32:06.000 They go, he has 19 kids.
02:32:09.000 I said, how did that happen?
02:32:11.000 Because he got...
02:32:13.000 Not only did they know about it, he told his family about every kid and every girl he was seeing.
02:32:20.000 He was trying to drive his wife insane to get a divorce.
02:32:24.000 She wouldn't divorce him.
02:32:25.000 She was hardcore Catholic, so she wouldn't divorce.
02:32:27.000 He wanted a divorce.
02:32:28.000 He wanted a...
02:32:30.000 To marry my mom, that's what he says, but she wouldn't give him a divorce, so he would tell her.
02:32:35.000 They knew all about me.
02:32:36.000 He would come home and say, oh, Maria's pregnant now. 0.99
02:32:39.000 Oh, Maria had the baby.
02:32:40.000 We named it Edgar.
02:32:42.000 He would come home to his wife and kids?
02:32:43.000 To his wife and kids and say, oh, Maria had just got pregnant. 1.00
02:32:48.000 We just had our kid.
02:32:48.000 I'll be gone for the weekend.
02:32:50.000 I'm going to spend time with my son.
02:32:51.000 Jesus Christ.
02:32:57.000 My mom thought he was going to leave his wife for her. 0.87
02:33:02.000 She was in love.
02:33:03.000 And he never did, but he had her in an apartment in downtown LA. And then after like three years, apparently I lived with him for three years, my mom just said enough's enough.
02:33:10.000 She went back to Orange County, back to her parents' house.
02:33:14.000 That was the end of that.
02:33:15.000 It's a weird thing, isn't it?
02:33:16.000 The idea that someone could just do that.
02:33:18.000 When you have kids now and you get on a plane, we were talking about you leave your house knowing you're going away for the weekend.
02:33:25.000 You miss them as soon as you get in your car.
02:33:27.000 Yeah.
02:33:28.000 As soon as you start driving away.
02:33:29.000 That this guy could just abandon his kid and then see you and not even have a connection with you.
02:33:35.000 Be like, oh, I just want to see if your grandfather was mad at me.
02:33:37.000 Yeah.
02:33:38.000 And then when I talked to them, when they told me about the 19 kids, it started to make sense. 0.92
02:33:42.000 I'm like, no wonder he didn't give a fuck about me. 0.98
02:33:44.000 Now I understand. 0.98
02:33:45.000 I got 19 kids. 0.78
02:33:47.000 He was never a dick to me.
02:33:49.000 When he would see me once a year, he would cruise by. 0.88
02:33:52.000 Did he hug you?
02:33:54.000 But I found out that he never said I love you.
02:33:57.000 He never told any of his kids I love you.
02:33:59.000 Never said I love you.
02:33:59.000 So he had something really wrong with him.
02:34:02.000 So then it all became clear.
02:34:04.000 I'm like, oh, this guy has no love in him.
02:34:06.000 That's why he just keeps having kids with whoever and he doesn't really care. 0.91
02:34:10.000 He was never a dick to me.
02:34:11.000 He just didn't really care that much about me.
02:34:14.000 It's kind of weird because that's sort of like, if you look at nature, if you look at the programming of the human animal, that's like the programming.
02:34:23.000 The programming is to spread your seed as much as possible.
02:34:25.000 The programming is to have as many babies as you can.
02:34:28.000 The program is not for the male to take care of them, though.
02:34:31.000 It's really strange.
02:34:32.000 You know, the program is to keep going, to keep spreading that seed, and that's one of the reasons why they say that, like, The intensity of attraction goes away within a few months of meeting someone, like the intensity when you first meet them.
02:34:48.000 That intensity of attraction for a man goes away within the first five or six months because usually by then the woman's already pregnant in nature. 0.99
02:34:57.000 You've been banging her, you know, every day for several months.
02:35:00.000 One of the days, she's been ovulating. 0.97
02:35:02.000 You shot one in there.
02:35:03.000 It ensured this intense bond, you know, initially to make sure that you continued having sex as much as possible to increase your odds of getting them pregnant. 0.58
02:35:11.000 And then, all of a sudden, this weird thing kicks in where you want to go.
02:35:16.000 Sometimes that kicks in as soon as you nut.
02:35:18.000 Post-nut syndrome, baby.
02:35:20.000 Yeah, but it's a weird thing that nature is literally set up that way.
02:35:26.000 And so in order to conform to what society expects from a person, you have to fight against your genetics.
02:35:32.000 You have to literally fight your instinct. 1.00
02:35:35.000 Your instinct to fuck other girls, the instinct to shoot loads into them and get them pregnant. 1.00
02:35:39.000 It's weird. 1.00
02:35:41.000 Do you remember that when we worked on The Man Show, that sketch I wrote...
02:35:44.000 For post-nut syndrome, it was a pill that you could take where you could have sex with a girl and not get post-nut syndrome if you take it 30 minutes before sex.
02:35:53.000 I don't remember that.
02:35:57.000 It never got green-lighted, but it just reminded me of a...
02:35:59.000 It'd be cool if that was a pill, right?
02:36:00.000 That is a real thing with men, though.
02:36:02.000 Pulse syndrome is serious.
02:36:03.000 It's the feeling that you have, like, right after you come, you're like, oh my god, I gotta get out of here.
02:36:07.000 I gotta get out of here.
02:36:09.000 And if you don't have that, that's when you know, like, hey, I think I found somebody.
02:36:13.000 Yeah, she's cool.
02:36:14.000 I think I found a real relationship.
02:36:15.000 If you feel like, hey, let's go get something to eat.
02:36:18.000 Don't leave, let's watch TV. You guys like spooners?
02:36:20.000 What are you saying, what?
02:36:20.000 You guys like spooners?
02:36:21.000 What are you saying, what?
02:36:22.000 After I come, I just want to spoon and snuggle.
02:36:24.000 With every chick? 0.85
02:36:25.000 Yeah.
02:36:25.000 Yeah, and then wake up and do it again in the morning.
02:36:27.000 He's half retarded. 1.00
02:36:28.000 Wow. 0.99
02:36:28.000 It's different. 0.99
02:36:29.000 You know those girls that if you have sex with and they're really dumb and you go, oh my god, why did I do this? 1.00
02:36:34.000 You just want to jump out a window. 1.00
02:36:35.000 He's as smart as them, so it's perfect.
02:36:37.000 I don't have that kind of stuff.
02:36:38.000 They lock up.
02:36:39.000 They mesh perfectly.
02:36:41.000 They talk about shoes.
02:36:42.000 They sit there and they talk about who's fat.
02:36:44.000 Girls don't really get post-nut syndrome unless they're married or something. 1.00
02:36:48.000 Then they feel guilty.
02:36:49.000 But if they're not married, if they have sex with you, they fall more in love with you.
02:36:53.000 Oh, that depends entirely.
02:36:55.000 That depends entirely on what the experience was like.
02:36:57.000 Generally, though, right?
02:36:58.000 Guys get post-nut syndrome way more than girls. 0.93
02:37:00.000 It's also the guys that we know, too.
02:37:02.000 We know a bunch of savages. 0.86
02:37:03.000 You know, if you compare, like, we went to an accountant's meeting, you know, and said, so, hey, how do you guys feel after you come?
02:37:09.000 What?
02:37:10.000 You know, people.
02:37:11.000 Some people, man, you start talking to them about sex.
02:37:13.000 It's a weird thing.
02:37:15.000 When dudes start talking, like, you and I have done this before.
02:37:18.000 We won't name any names, but we've had sex conversations around square dudes, and you watch them panic.
02:37:23.000 Like, they absolutely panic, you know? 0.99
02:37:26.000 Like, they don't know what the fuck to say. 1.00
02:37:28.000 Like, how often do you fuck your wife? 1.00
02:37:29.000 Be serious. 1.00
02:37:30.000 And some guys will tell you, like, I fuck my wife like three times a week. 1.00
02:37:33.000 No more than that. 1.00
02:37:34.000 Like, I don't want to fuck her every day, but I fuck her a lot. 1.00
02:37:36.000 And some guys will just go, what? 1.00
02:37:38.000 They just, they just clam up.
02:37:40.000 Twice a day.
02:37:41.000 I can't, or they will say, I can't, it's just not something that I discuss.
02:37:44.000 Like, you don't discuss how often you bang your wife with another man.
02:37:48.000 Like, why wouldn't you discuss that?
02:37:50.000 Yeah.
02:37:50.000 Do you not love your wife?
02:37:51.000 If you love your wife, you have sex with your wife. 0.99
02:37:53.000 So is that off the books? 0.98
02:37:54.000 You can't talk about it?
02:37:55.000 Like, what do you, I'm not, I'm not asking you like specific details.
02:37:58.000 Okay.
02:37:58.000 You know what's crazy about my wife is before the kid, you know, once you're going out with a girl for a year or two years, you come home from jujitsu.
02:38:08.000 My classes are kind of late.
02:38:10.000 A lot of times I'm broken.
02:38:12.000 I just went to war for an hour with guys from out of town trying to tap me.
02:38:18.000 I come home, I'm going to drink a protein shake, I'm going to get on the internet a little bit, I'm just going to collapse and die, generally, after jujitsu. 0.74
02:38:27.000 So, you know, for a while there, it's like, I have sex tomorrow, you just keep putting it off, and you don't have sex as much, and then when you have a kid, now you can only have sex when that baby's asleep.
02:38:43.000 So now, I really can't have it that much.
02:38:46.000 So, I want it way more than ever.
02:38:49.000 Jesus Christ.
02:38:50.000 Don't be easy with the voice and the microphone.
02:38:52.000 I want it way more than ever.
02:38:54.000 I like it.
02:38:56.000 The one thing I learned in my old age, the one thing I learned, because I've dated girls that didn't... 1.00
02:39:01.000 Some girls... 1.00
02:39:02.000 Didn't want sex as much as I did. 0.91
02:39:05.000 And that would kind of piss me off. 1.00
02:39:07.000 I'm 23 and it's like, man, this is bullshit. 0.99
02:39:09.000 I should get it whenever I want. 0.99
02:39:10.000 You're my girlfriend.
02:39:11.000 Oh, you're tired? 1.00
02:39:13.000 I would get pissed off and I'm like, man, I want a girl that wants to fuck anytime I want it. 1.00
02:39:18.000 But then you have girls and I've had most girls where I wanted it more than I did. 0.99
02:39:24.000 I was always the tired one and they always wanted it more.
02:39:26.000 I get to the point where it's kind of bothersome. 0.98
02:39:29.000 I'm like, damn, she wants it way too much. 0.78
02:39:31.000 But now, looking back at all that and where I'm at now, looking back at that now, I would rather want it all the time and rarely get it Then always get it and rarely want it. 0.98
02:39:45.000 That's the one thing I want.
02:39:46.000 That's definitely better.
02:39:47.000 As long as you are still getting it.
02:39:48.000 Yes.
02:39:49.000 Did you see this?
02:39:50.000 Chael Sonnen and Vanderlei Silva are going to host Tough Brazil.
02:39:53.000 The ultimate fighter of Brazil.
02:39:55.000 That's perfect. 0.99
02:39:55.000 Chael Sonnen is going to go to fucking Brazil. 0.99
02:39:58.000 That crazy asshole. 1.00
02:39:59.000 After all the shit that he talked on Brazilians and Vanderlei Silva. 1.00
02:40:03.000 And Chael has been putting these rhymes up on his Twitter account. 0.98
02:40:10.000 Is it going to be in English or Brazilian?
02:40:12.000 It's going to be both.
02:40:13.000 It's going to be Americans fighting against Brazilians. 0.97
02:40:17.000 Sixteen Americans will go to war to find eight guys, and then sixteen Brazilians will go to war to find eight guys. 0.73
02:40:22.000 That might be the greatest tough ever.
02:40:24.000 Those two teams, they might have a lot of extracurricular violence.
02:40:28.000 You know, you got to be careful. 1.00
02:40:29.000 If your coach is Chael Sonnen, he said a lot of nasty shit. 1.00
02:40:33.000 Excuse me, a lot of nasty shit about Brazilians. 1.00
02:40:35.000 But he's just talking trash. 1.00
02:40:37.000 That's all he's doing. 0.80
02:40:38.000 You know, if you asked him honestly off the record, he'd say they're great fighters.
02:40:41.000 It's an honor and all that jazz. 1.00
02:40:43.000 But he talks so much mad shit. 1.00
02:40:45.000 And Vanderlei wants to kill him. 1.00
02:40:48.000 Vanderlei and him is going to be a crazy fight, man. 0.97
02:40:51.000 That's going to be crazy.
02:40:52.000 As long as Vanderlei's healthy.
02:40:54.000 I don't want to name any names or any seasons or anything, but apparently there's been some stuff on the Ultimate Fighter that happened behind the scenes that was so violent that they didn't even want to air it.
02:41:04.000 Really?
02:41:05.000 Have you heard about that?
02:41:06.000 Like fights?
02:41:06.000 Yeah.
02:41:07.000 There have been fights that they just completely edit out.
02:41:09.000 Really?
02:41:10.000 Yeah.
02:41:11.000 I believe it.
02:41:12.000 Yeah.
02:41:12.000 I believe it.
02:41:13.000 Dudes get crazy.
02:41:14.000 Yeah.
02:41:15.000 Do they have them all still living in houses together?
02:41:18.000 Yep.
02:41:19.000 This season they have girls and guys living together.
02:41:22.000 Eight girl fighters.
02:41:23.000 It's a great season.
02:41:25.000 This year's season is awesome.
02:41:26.000 That house must smell so bad.
02:41:29.000 That's protein farts. 1.00
02:41:30.000 They clean that shit. 1.00
02:41:31.000 Sweat. 1.00
02:41:32.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:41:32.000 And dirty guys. 0.98
02:41:33.000 It definitely probably smells bad. 0.78
02:41:36.000 Are you watching the season?
02:41:37.000 Yeah, it's good.
02:41:38.000 Dude, I love it.
02:41:38.000 Dude, the drama between those two chicks, man.
02:41:41.000 Jasmine Duke and what was the girl she fought? 1.00
02:41:44.000 Raquel Pennington or something?
02:41:46.000 Was that her name?
02:41:47.000 I'm not sure.
02:41:48.000 But she can hit hard. 1.00
02:41:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:41:52.000 I don't know the girls' names.
02:41:55.000 But Jasmine Duke, man, talk about heart. 0.99
02:41:57.000 She was getting hit hard and she kept coming back, throwing knees, throwing down.
02:42:02.000 And she's actually more of a jiu-jitsu chick than she is a striker. 0.94
02:42:06.000 And man, talk about heart.
02:42:09.000 She's out in LA now, training with Ronda Rousey's team.
02:42:13.000 Dude, you gotta come to the one in December.
02:42:16.000 The UFC in December?
02:42:17.000 December 28th?
02:42:18.000 Which...
02:42:18.000 Come to Vegas.
02:42:19.000 You gotta come.
02:42:20.000 Okay.
02:42:21.000 That's the one where Ronda's gonna fight Misha Tate. 1.00
02:42:23.000 Oh, shit. 0.99
02:42:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:42:25.000 You gotta be there.
02:42:25.000 And it's also Chris Weidman, Anderson Silva, Dose.
02:42:28.000 Oh, damn, I'm there. 0.99
02:42:29.000 Yeah, you gotta be there. 1.00
02:42:31.000 Okay, count me in.
02:42:31.000 When Misha Tate fights Ronda Rousey, when they actually step into the octagon...
02:42:35.000 Oh my goodness.
02:42:37.000 That might be the most insane evening ever.
02:42:40.000 Is that Barnett also?
02:42:41.000 Or is that the 18th or something like that?
02:42:43.000 Let's find out.
02:42:44.000 Who's Barnett fighting next?
02:42:46.000 He's fighting Travis Brown.
02:42:47.000 Oh, that's right. 1.00
02:42:48.000 Holy shit, son. 1.00
02:42:50.000 Good fight. 1.00
02:42:50.000 Fuck yeah, it is. 1.00
02:42:53.000 Yeah, let me see. 1.00
02:42:55.000 Those front snap kicks are coming back strong, aren't they?
02:42:58.000 Everyone's throwing those.
02:43:00.000 Yeah, it's crazy.
02:43:01.000 Isn't it weird?
02:43:02.000 That technique barely even existed.
02:43:05.000 Do you remember us going over it in your garage and mastering the system?
02:43:10.000 Yeah.
02:43:10.000 And I remember asking about it.
02:43:11.000 I go, why haven't we seen the front snap kick so much?
02:43:14.000 It's hard to land.
02:43:15.000 Yeah, and you were like, yeah, it's hard to generate power.
02:43:17.000 And you were throwing a couple.
02:43:17.000 I'm like, when you were throwing, I'm like, that looks like it would hurt if it landed.
02:43:21.000 And boom, right after that, Anderson dropped Couture with it.
02:43:26.000 Or no, Anderson dropped Vitor, right?
02:43:28.000 Vitor, yeah.
02:43:28.000 And then Machida dropped Couture.
02:43:30.000 And now everyone's throwing those snap kicks.
02:43:32.000 Yeah.
02:43:33.000 Overeem goes down with them.
02:43:34.000 That's a big technique now.
02:43:36.000 Yeah.
02:43:36.000 Okay, let's see.
02:43:38.000 Anderson, fight card.
02:43:39.000 Anderson Silva, Weidman, two.
02:43:42.000 Oh my god, this is an amazing card. 1.00
02:43:44.000 Oh shit. 0.99
02:43:44.000 Ronda Rousey, Misha Tate, Travis Brown, Josh Barnett. 0.99
02:43:47.000 Oh shit. 0.88
02:43:48.000 Gleason Tebow versus Michael Johnson. 1.00
02:43:50.000 Chris Lieben versus Uriah Hall. 1.00
02:43:53.000 Oh shit. 1.00
02:43:54.000 Wait, wait, Chris Lieben? 1.00
02:43:56.000 Chris Lieben versus Uriah Hall.
02:43:57.000 How is that possible? 1.00
02:43:58.000 Oh shit. 0.99
02:43:58.000 Chris Lieben is a 185. Oh, Uriah Hall. 0.99
02:44:02.000 I thought I was thinking Uriah Faber.
02:44:04.000 No, Uriah Hall, the winner of his ultimate fighter.
02:44:06.000 Dennis Eever versus Manny Gamburian.
02:44:09.000 Ooh.
02:44:10.000 Oh my goodness.
02:44:11.000 That's going to be good.
02:44:13.000 Oh my goodness.
02:44:13.000 Just pronounce on it.
02:44:14.000 Sweet.
02:44:15.000 Oh, C.R. Bajardezura.
02:44:18.000 How do you say it?
02:44:19.000 Bajardezada versus Doomsday Howard. 1.00
02:44:22.000 Holy shit. 0.99
02:44:24.000 Dustin Poirier versus Diego Brandao. 0.99
02:44:27.000 Oh my god.
02:44:28.000 This card's insane.
02:44:30.000 Yeah.
02:44:32.000 That's December 28th.
02:44:33.000 Jim Miller versus Fabrizio Carmoins? 0.99
02:44:36.000 Damn. 1.00
02:44:36.000 Oh my god, this card's insane. 1.00
02:44:39.000 I think Fabrizio Carmoins is that guy that hit that badass triangle from the mount.
02:44:44.000 Do you remember that?
02:44:44.000 Maybe, but now, yeah.
02:44:46.000 I wouldn't know that was Sergio something.
02:44:48.000 It's a different guy, I'm sorry.
02:44:49.000 I don't know who did it.
02:44:50.000 Yeah, different guy. 1.00
02:44:51.000 Either way, what a fucking card. 1.00
02:44:53.000 What a card! 1.00
02:44:55.000 This weekend, I'm going to, I'm headed to England.
02:45:00.000 Going to Manchester.
02:45:01.000 UFC? Yeah, well I was going to do that blood treatment thing in Germany, but now I'm going to do it in Santa Monica.
02:45:08.000 They do it in Santa Monica.
02:45:10.000 What's the blood treatment?
02:45:11.000 So stem cell thing that guys do for their discs, it's supposed to be incredible.
02:45:16.000 That's the one thing that kept me out of jiu-jitsu.
02:45:19.000 I've been, like we were talking about, been injuries, and you look forward to getting back to jiu-jitsu.
02:45:23.000 I've been stitched up before.
02:45:25.000 I've had two knee surgeries, and I went back to jiu-jitsu.
02:45:28.000 I had my nose fixed, went back to jiu-jitsu, and everything's fine.
02:45:32.000 But this was a scary one.
02:45:34.000 When you start getting numb hands, and then we knew quite a few people that have had, like, real serious issues with their backs, where they have atrophy of their arms, and Boss Rutten has one arm that's, like, literally half the size of his other arm.
02:45:47.000 It's scary.
02:45:47.000 So I wasn't down with any surgeries, man.
02:45:50.000 I wanted to make sure that I did all the right things as far as rehabilitate, and I got a lot stronger. 0.58
02:45:56.000 I came back that one day and rolled pretty fucking hard and didn't have any problems, but it was real stiff.
02:46:02.000 And the next day it was stiff and sore, but I'm like, at least I can roll. 0.92
02:46:06.000 I know I can roll, but I think I can make this thing better.
02:46:09.000 You haven't rolled since?
02:46:10.000 Before I go back.
02:46:10.000 I haven't rolled since.
02:46:11.000 Mostly been doing just Muay Thai and a lot of weightlifting.
02:46:16.000 Which doesn't bother me.
02:46:17.000 It doesn't bother me with kettlebells, and it doesn't bother me with Muay Thai.
02:46:21.000 It's just getting my neck cranked.
02:46:23.000 And the day I came back to the gym, too, it was all arm triangles.
02:46:28.000 Remember, it was arm triangle transitions and guillotines, which is my favorite. 0.99
02:46:33.000 I love arm triangles, but goddamn, that's a lot of shit going on with your neck. 0.98
02:46:37.000 So how are you feeling right now today? 0.99
02:46:38.000 I feel fine.
02:46:39.000 Stiff.
02:46:40.000 My back's stiff.
02:46:40.000 But that's just because I lifted weights yesterday pretty hard.
02:46:43.000 Man, I hope that works out for you.
02:46:45.000 Me too.
02:46:45.000 You gotta do it too, man.
02:46:47.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
02:46:47.000 You gotta try that shit. 1.00
02:46:48.000 My back's feeling great, but I would... 1.00
02:46:50.000 It'd make it even better.
02:46:50.000 It's not 100%.
02:46:51.000 Right.
02:46:52.000 But it doesn't stop me from rolling, doesn't stop me from training.
02:46:54.000 I just gotta really focus on keeping my hamstrings nice and stretched.
02:46:58.000 I never stretched my hamstrings ever.
02:47:01.000 That's the downfall of lower backs is...
02:47:05.000 Tense and tight hamstrings.
02:47:08.000 So that's a new thing of mine where every morning I'm waking up, I'm stretching my hamstrings before class, after class.
02:47:15.000 Sometimes, you know, I don't have time, but I'm more committed to stretching my hamstrings more than anything.
02:47:23.000 This is what the stuff is.
02:47:24.000 That's important, but this is what the stuff is called.
02:47:27.000 The term is called Regenokine, R-E-G-E-N-O-K-I-N-E. Orthokine is the actual medical procedure.
02:47:39.000 They take your blood, extract it, they manipulate it somehow, then reintroduce it to the body as an anti-inflammatory drug to reduce chronic pain and arthritis.
02:47:50.000 And the process involves two ounces of blood drawn from your arm and then it's incubated in a slightly raised temperature.
02:47:57.000 The liquid is then placed in a centrifuge until its constituents' parts are separated.
02:48:02.000 The middle yellowish layer is dense with agents that are believed to stop an arthritic agent known as interleukin-1, which causes degeneration of the joints and a breakdown of cartilage.
02:48:13.000 That serum is injected into the patient's affected area The procedure reduces pain and discomfort to the joint, and the treatment generally lasts five days with six shots of the serum into the affected area.
02:48:24.000 It's normal for a patient to receive annual injections to ease joint discomfort.
02:48:29.000 So many pro athletes have done this and had miraculous recoveries.
02:48:33.000 Peyton Manning went to Germany for this. 0.99
02:48:34.000 He had two neck surgeries, and he was on his way out of football, and now he's a fucking superstar again. 0.98
02:48:39.000 He's having the best year of his life. 1.00
02:48:41.000 Yeah, it's from this shit. 1.00
02:48:42.000 Dana White did it and he just raves about the results of it. 0.99
02:48:46.000 So if you have arthritis in your spine, your lower back, Louis Ho from 10th Planet Montreal has got this.
02:48:53.000 He's got arthritis in his back.
02:48:56.000 Yeah, I guarantee you this would help him.
02:48:58.000 I mean, I don't know how much he has.
02:48:59.000 I haven't seen his MRI, but I guarantee you that this would make him feel better than he feels now.
02:49:05.000 I'll give everybody the breakdown of it when I do it.
02:49:08.000 I start next week when I get back from England.
02:49:10.000 I go in and we'll see what happens.
02:49:13.000 You have your MRI? Yeah, I already had all that shit done. 0.99
02:49:16.000 I had my MRI done right after the injury. 0.99
02:49:19.000 It looked pretty nasty, man.
02:49:20.000 I had a six-millimeter bulge in my neck.
02:49:23.000 It's pretty big.
02:49:24.000 You know, it's reduced now quite a bit, but right after the injury, it was six millimeters.
02:49:28.000 That's not good, and that's why I was having numb hands.
02:49:31.000 And you know what it's from?
02:49:33.000 It's from doing it, getting injured, and then taking a couple weeks off and jumping right back in.
02:49:37.000 That's what it is.
02:49:38.000 Not allowing myself to fully heal up.
02:49:40.000 And core strengthening.
02:49:42.000 Core strengthening is massive.
02:49:43.000 It's so important.
02:49:44.000 You know, if you're going to be in there throwing down on a regular basis, you've got to do some core workouts.
02:49:48.000 You've got to do something that keeps you, gives you a little armor to protect you from being injured.
02:49:55.000 Squats?
02:49:55.000 Squats help a lot.
02:49:57.000 Squats, windmills, kettlebell windmills are huge.
02:50:00.000 I love those. 0.99
02:50:00.000 That is strengthening your entire core, you know, all that bending and carrying that heavy weight, Turkish get-ups, that kind of shit. 0.99
02:50:08.000 You're doing any shows when you're in England? 0.99
02:50:10.000 I am doing two shows.
02:50:12.000 The Dance House Theater. 1.00
02:50:13.000 They're both sold out, so go fuck yourselves, English people. 1.00
02:50:15.000 Are you bringing anyone? 1.00
02:50:16.000 Too late.
02:50:16.000 No, I'm going with a guy who's there.
02:50:19.000 Local kid.
02:50:20.000 And Dave Bishop.
02:50:22.000 Dave Bishop's going to...
02:50:23.000 Oh, he's doing comedy again.
02:50:25.000 No, no, no.
02:50:26.000 He's going to just introduce us.
02:50:29.000 He's done.
02:50:29.000 Mark Hayden ever go over there?
02:50:31.000 You ever see Mark Hayden?
02:50:32.000 He's like the Candyman.
02:50:33.000 You just said him twice.
02:50:34.000 Don't say the third time.
02:50:35.000 He'll show up.
02:50:37.000 That's it.
02:50:37.000 This podcast is over.
02:50:38.000 Thanks to LegalZoom.com.
02:50:41.000 Can I throw a couple seminars out?
02:50:42.000 Yeah, absolutely.
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02:51:05.000 You will fucking love them. 0.98
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02:51:14.000 What's going on, Eddie Bravo?
02:51:15.000 I'm going to be at 10th Planet Yuma, November 9th.
02:51:18.000 I'm going to be at 10th Planet San Francisco, November 23rd.
02:51:22.000 Go to 10thplanetjj.com.
02:51:24.000 Get on the Nibiru Forum, my message board, for all the info and details.
02:51:28.000 My podcast is Eddie Bravo Radio.
02:51:31.000 It's on iTunes and Stitcher.
02:51:32.000 And dude, send me your seminars when you're doing them.
02:51:34.000 I tweet them for you.
02:51:35.000 I tweet everybody's dates.
02:51:37.000 I never want to bother you with that.
02:51:38.000 Don't worry.
02:51:38.000 You've done so much for me, man.
02:51:40.000 It's not a bother.
02:51:41.000 People love it.
02:51:42.000 Anybody who's interested...
02:51:43.000 You know, it's something to do.
02:51:45.000 You should do it.
02:51:46.000 You'll learn a lot.
02:51:47.000 Seminars are awesome.
02:51:48.000 It's a great way to see a new aspect of jiu-jitsu, to check out a different person's game.
02:51:55.000 And I know how much time and effort you put into them.
02:51:57.000 They're awesome.
02:51:58.000 They're great seminars.
02:51:58.000 Thank you very much.
02:51:59.000 Shit, I've been going to your seminars since... 0.98
02:52:00.000 Damn, when was the first one we did? 1.00
02:52:02.000 God damn, it was a long ass time ago. 0.99
02:52:04.000 The first one, I think... 1.00
02:52:06.000 Colorado?
02:52:07.000 Boulder?
02:52:08.000 Oh, we started doing seminars with your comedy kids.
02:52:11.000 We did one in Miami.
02:52:12.000 Oh yeah, that's right.
02:52:14.000 Like an hour late.
02:52:14.000 Do you remember how crazy that rain was?
02:52:16.000 Yeah!
02:52:17.000 I'll never forget that.
02:52:18.000 We hit a wall of water in Miami that you couldn't see anything in front of you.
02:52:23.000 You had to stop on the freeway.
02:52:24.000 The whole freeway stopped dead for rain. 0.99
02:52:26.000 It was fucking crazy. 0.99
02:52:28.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:52:28.000 That was awesome. 0.98
02:52:29.000 I haven't did a seminar in Miami in forever.
02:52:32.000 Jesus.
02:52:33.000 A lot of jiu-jitsu down in Miami.
02:52:33.000 I think that was the last time.
02:52:34.000 That was the last time.
02:52:35.000 There's a lot of jiu-jitsu in Miami.
02:52:37.000 A lot of MMA in Miami.
02:52:39.000 A lot of jiu-jitsu.
02:52:39.000 A lot of Brazilians like that Miami weather.
02:52:42.000 So follow him on Twitter.
02:52:44.000 It's EddieBravo on Twitter or 10thPlanetJJ.com and come down to headquarters. 0.98
02:52:49.000 And as soon as I get this back shit... 0.98
02:52:51.000 I've settled out. 0.98
02:52:52.000 Within the next month or so, I'll be back on a regular basis.
02:52:54.000 I teach downtown.
02:52:55.000 Just email me for info, twisterbravo at sbcglobal.net. 0.99
02:53:00.000 Yeah, once I'm back in, man, we should do some shit together. 0.65
02:53:02.000 We'll figure out how to do some seminars in the same place where I'm doing comedy. 0.97
02:53:05.000 Let's work that out.
02:53:06.000 Let's do that.
02:53:07.000 I'm down. 1.00
02:53:07.000 Let's make it happen, bitch. 1.00
02:53:09.000 Beautiful. 0.99
02:53:10.000 All right, folks, we will be back soon.
02:53:12.000 Next week, I got Sam Harris is here next week.
02:53:15.000 Should be a lot of fun.
02:53:17.000 And someone else as well.
02:53:20.000 I forget who.
02:53:21.000 Don't worry about it.
02:53:21.000 It'll be good.
02:53:22.000 Don't sweat it.
02:53:23.000 All right? 1.00
02:53:24.000 Keep it together, you dirty freaks. 0.98
02:53:25.000 And I will be at the Irvine Improv, November 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. 0.97
02:53:31.000 That's the next date coming out that's available.
02:53:33.000 The River Cree in Edmonton, I think, is sold out.
02:53:37.000 And then I'm in Vegas on December 28th at the Mirage.
02:53:42.000 27th or 28th?
02:53:43.000 Which one is that?
02:53:44.000 Which one's Friday? 0.95
02:53:52.000 December 27th at the Mirage in Vegas with the one and only Joey motherfucking Coco Diaz. 1.00
02:53:58.000 So holla at your boy. 1.00
02:53:59.000 Alright, we'll see you fucks very soon. 1.00
02:54:01.000 We love the shit out of ya. 0.99
02:54:02.000 And thanks for all the love back. 0.97
02:54:04.000 Big kiss.
02:54:05.000 Thanks everybody who came to Houston this weekend too.
02:54:07.000 Thank you. 0.98
02:54:07.000 Had a great fucking time. 0.98
02:54:08.000 Thank you for having me, man. 0.99