The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #416 - Ana Kasparian

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00:04:54.000 Anna.

00:04:55.000 Kasparian.

00:04:55.000 Yes.

00:04:55.000 Is that the right way to pronounce it?

00:04:56.000 From the Young Turks.

00:04:57.000 Correct.

00:04:58.000 Which is, you guys are like the new media, right?

00:05:00.000 Yes.

00:05:01.000 There's old media and there's new media.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, establishment media and new media.

00:05:04.000 I'm actually working on a book about it.

00:05:07.000 I mean, I'm not 100% sure that it's going to be published, so I don't want to give too many details.

00:05:13.000 It's something I'm working on now.

00:05:15.000 But I got to experience that transition from establishment media to new media.

00:05:21.000 And there are really important differences and just this whole media revolution that's happening that's really exciting for anyone who's interested in journalism.

00:05:29.000 I mean, you're part of it with this podcast.

00:05:32.000 Allegedly.

00:05:33.000 You are.

00:05:34.000 You are.

00:05:34.000 Allegedly.

00:05:36.000 And it's a really great way for people who want to be heard without being censored.

00:05:45.000 I can basically say anything I want on my show without worrying about anyone telling me, hey, you can't say this, you can't say that.

00:05:52.000 We have corporate sponsors.

00:05:53.000 We've got to make sure the advertisers continue giving us money.

00:05:58.000 What's fascinating is all you have to do is be interesting, entertaining, informative, and that's it.

00:06:03.000 It doesn't have to have CNN on it or Fox on it or any of these other names that we've attributed to meaning what the news is, where the news comes from.

00:06:10.000 Definitely.

00:06:11.000 I mean, when I first started working at TYT, it was this unknown show.

00:06:15.000 It had been around for a few years, but it was a really big risk for me to work there because I was working at CBS Radio at the time.

00:06:22.000 And CBS Radio had a very clear path for me.

00:06:25.000 You start off as an assistant producer, you will work your way up, and if you're good enough and persistent enough, you'll be an anchor and you'll be fine.

00:06:32.000 You'll be set for life.

00:06:34.000 With TYT, it was just this huge risk because it was unknown.

00:06:38.000 I didn't know if it would survive.

00:06:40.000 At the time, it was on this radio station called Air America.

00:06:43.000 I don't know if you heard of it.

00:06:44.000 Yeah, I remember that.

00:06:45.000 For folks, TYT stands for the Young Turks.

00:06:47.000 Yeah, the Young Turks. 0.99

00:06:48.000 In case you're on a plane with no Google and you're like, what the fuck is she talking about? 0.70

00:06:52.000 Um, so I just remember being really unhappy at CBS, feeling like, you know, even if I get to the top of the ladder within this company, I'm not going to feel fulfilled doing what they're doing. 0.95

00:07:06.000 And the first day I worked at the Young Turks, I heard Cenk Uygur, the main host of the show, go on this rant against the Bush administration and some of the ridiculous, you know, civil liberty violations, civil liberties violations that they were accused of.

00:07:21.000 Guilty of, not even accused of.

00:07:24.000 And I was like, wow, you do not see this in the media.

00:07:26.000 You don't see this type of honesty.

00:07:29.000 You don't see people go off like that.

00:07:32.000 They're usually very senatorial whenever they're doing any type of commentary.

00:07:36.000 And I was tired of it.

00:07:37.000 I wanted some real news coverage.

00:07:39.000 So that's why I made the decision that I made.

00:07:41.000 And I left.

00:07:42.000 And thank God I made that decision because TYT actually succeeded in big ways.

00:07:47.000 Yeah.

00:07:47.000 What year do you think it was where it started to shift?

00:07:52.000 Because it seems like, to me, it's maybe three, five, whatever years it is, but within the last few years, there's this shift where my friends don't ever talk to me about what they saw on CNN. They don't ever talk to me about what they saw on Fox News.

00:08:06.000 It's always, I read this online.

00:08:08.000 I watched this online.

00:08:09.000 I saw the Young Turks.

00:08:10.000 I watched this show.

00:08:11.000 I watched this guy's podcast.

00:08:13.000 And this guy said, I mean, everybody that I talk to is talking about stuff that they're getting.

00:08:18.000 When they're talking about real issues, they're talking about stuff they're getting online.

00:08:21.000 Yeah, well, a lot of things have changed.

00:08:23.000 People don't rush home to watch a newscast anymore.

00:08:27.000 And people also know that there are corporate interests involved in traditional media.

00:08:32.000 You know, you see advertisements for things that you can't even buy on traditional media.

00:08:36.000 Like I see advertisements for this company called Siemens.

00:08:39.000 And I'm like, what are they trying to sell me?

00:08:41.000 And you realize that they're not trying to sell the consumer anything.

00:08:45.000 It's a form of control over the network.

00:08:47.000 BP has a bunch of advertisements on mainstream media.

00:08:51.000 And if they are the people that are paying your bills, you are less likely to be critical of their business practices.

00:08:58.000 So with traditional media, you have that issue, and I think people are now more and more aware of it.

00:09:04.000 And with online media, it's on demand.

00:09:07.000 It's raw.

00:09:08.000 We cuss, we say whatever the hell we want without worrying about censorship.

00:09:11.000 And people like that.

00:09:13.000 There's something really refreshing about it.

00:09:15.000 Well, they didn't have it before, and they didn't think they could.

00:09:17.000 And they thought if they did, it probably would come in an uneducated form.

00:09:21.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:09:21.000 There'd probably be some idiots who are saying stupid things that don't even ring true. 1.00

00:09:24.000 But instead, there's intelligent people, and they're like, fuck this. 1.00

00:09:27.000 And you're like, whoa, hold on. 0.99

00:09:29.000 These people are actually articulate.

00:09:31.000 They look like they went to school.

00:09:33.000 This is a new thing. 1.00

00:09:36.000 I actually think that it's a perfect example of the free market deciding because I don't think that the American people are stupid. 0.85

00:09:43.000 I think that they can decide and determine whether or not someone is intelligent enough or credible enough to cover a particular story.

00:09:49.000 So a perfect example of that is I'm not a science reporter.

00:09:52.000 So whenever I attempt to cover science news, the audience tears me apart for it, as they should, because that's not my expertise.

00:09:59.000 My expertise is political commentary, social commentary.

00:10:03.000 And that's usually the stuff that does really well on The Young Turks when I cover it.

00:10:07.000 And so the audience decides, and they will let you know.

00:10:11.000 With mainstream media, it's really difficult for you to voice your opinion if you don't like the coverage, right?

00:10:16.000 You might write an email, but you don't know if anyone's ever going to see it.

00:10:19.000 With our show, we're on YouTube.

00:10:21.000 We get constant, constant feedback and a lot of times it's not constructive, but sometimes it is constructive.

00:10:30.000 I like how you said it like that.

00:10:32.000 That might be the lowest form of human on the planet is the YouTube commenter.

00:10:37.000 There are some pretty hideous people on there. 0.99

00:10:39.000 If you looked at it like per numbers, like per capita, it's got to be 40% ass heads. 0.99

00:10:45.000 Okay, so let me give you an example of something that enraged me the other day. 0.95

00:10:48.000 I literally lost it in our studio, and everyone's like, you need to calm down.

00:10:51.000 We covered this story about this guy in Massachusetts who was going around taking upskirt pictures with his cell phone.

00:10:58.000 So cops finally caught him back in 2010, and now he's going to stand trial for it.

00:11:03.000 And he's actually suing...

00:11:19.000 How absurd is that argument?

00:11:21.000 Anyway, we cover it on the show.

00:11:22.000 We share our, you know, opinion on it.

00:11:25.000 And I would say, like, about one-third of the audience was like, Yeah, they're right! 1.00

00:11:29.000 Yeah, Anna's a dumb bitch! 1.00

00:11:30.000 What if she doesn't know anything? 1.00

00:11:31.000 First Amendment rights! 0.84

00:11:32.000 And it's like, oh, what am I supposed to do with these types of situations?

00:11:36.000 It's really frustrating.

00:11:38.000 Those women who are lawyers are gangsters. 1.00

00:11:41.000 That's some gangster shit right there. 1.00

00:11:43.000 That's like some traitor shit right there. 1.00

00:11:45.000 Exactly. 0.99

00:11:45.000 I'd be very curious to see if she would be okay with this dude with her own client taking upskirt pictures with her or of her. 0.99

00:11:53.000 And another argument she made was, what?

00:11:55.000 I mean, all these women were wearing underwear. 1.00

00:11:56.000 We didn't see their vag, so it's okay. 0.59

00:11:59.000 Wow. 0.93

00:12:00.000 That's very gangster of her.

00:12:02.000 Is that just what happens when you get into the business world?

00:12:05.000 You get into the corporate world and you become a lawyer and it's about winning and losing?

00:12:09.000 Definitely. 1.00

00:12:10.000 And you tickle on the client and just argue it, even though you sold your own vagina down the river. 1.00

00:12:17.000 I know, exactly. 1.00

00:12:18.000 She sold her own vagina. 1.00

00:12:19.000 I don't know what she looks like, but maybe she has nothing to worry about. 0.99

00:12:21.000 Maybe no one wants to get an obscure picture of her and that's why she has no problem making these arguments in court. 1.00

00:12:26.000 Or maybe she's just dying for someone to get a picture of hers. 1.00

00:12:29.000 Maybe. 0.97

00:12:30.000 She's just a freak. 1.00

00:12:31.000 That could be it too. 0.78

00:12:32.000 Definitely. 0.99

00:12:33.000 Yeah, that's a fucking big leap that those women lawyers made. 1.00

00:12:38.000 They just decided it's fucking straight to hell. 1.00

00:12:40.000 I was really surprised by that. 0.99

00:12:42.000 But you know, look, when you have, there's like financial gain involved, then okay, I guess I can kind of understand where you're coming from.

00:12:49.000 You're a lawyer and you're trying to make some money, I guess.

00:12:52.000 And it's really difficult for lawyers right now to even get cases, to get work.

00:12:56.000 So maybe that plays a role in it.

00:12:58.000 But what really bothered me about it is we have a progressive audience.

00:13:02.000 Like, our audience is pretty liberal.

00:13:05.000 So whenever I see that kind of response to a story like that, I'm always shocked.

00:13:11.000 I'm like, wait, you guys are okay with this?

00:13:13.000 It's just men. 1.00

00:13:17.000 Most men who are raised by shitheads. 1.00

00:13:19.000 That's a lot of it. 0.99

00:13:20.000 It's a big part of it. 1.00

00:13:21.000 The real problem is they don't even realize they're being shitheads because their dad was a shithead, their brother's a shithead, they grow up in a community of shitheads. 1.00

00:13:28.000 They don't even realize it. 1.00

00:13:30.000 It's just ape behavior.

00:13:32.000 And there's also a possibility that they're just straight out trolling.

00:13:35.000 Like, they don't even believe what they're saying, but they're doing it to get a response like this.

00:13:39.000 They just won!

00:13:41.000 They just won, and I'm totally aware of that.

00:13:44.000 Yeah, that's hilarious. 0.99

00:13:45.000 And I remember being in the studio, like, reading the comments, and I was like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:13:49.000 Why? 0.99

00:13:50.000 What am I doing with my life?

00:13:52.000 Does it matter?

00:13:53.000 And I started feeling really bad about it, but then I was like, you just can't let that stuff get to you.

00:13:58.000 You gotta take it with a grain of salt.

00:13:59.000 Yeah, you can get caught up in an online troll war.

00:14:02.000 You guys actually made fun of me, the Young Turks did, because I got in an online MySpace thing.

00:14:08.000 I don't even remember this.

00:14:09.000 It was a long time ago, but he was right.

00:14:11.000 I would have made fun of me if I was me.

00:14:13.000 Really?

00:14:13.000 I shouldn't have had this interaction with this kid.

00:14:15.000 This kid kept harassing me over and over again.

00:14:18.000 It was during the MySpace days, and no one knew how to handle that.

00:14:22.000 It was like the new thing, that someone could just contact people.

00:14:26.000 And some people would just contact people and go, why haven't you not killed yourself? 0.93

00:14:30.000 And you would get an email from someone saying, you know, you're horrible, you should eat glass, you know, whatever. 0.98

00:14:37.000 You'd get a lot of those in a day. 1.00

00:14:39.000 Like, what the fuck? 0.99

00:14:40.000 This is weird. 0.99

00:14:41.000 This is a new thing.

00:14:42.000 Interesting. 0.99

00:14:43.000 I get dick pics regularly. 0.99

00:14:45.000 Really? 0.99

00:14:46.000 Regularly.

00:14:47.000 Do you geotag them? 0.99

00:14:48.000 You should re-upload them online and let everybody know where that sweet dick is hiding. 1.00

00:14:53.000 I've considered that but you know a lot of times they'll send me the pictures on Facebook because I have a fan page on Facebook and every once in a while check the messages and they're so stupid because all of their private information is on there like where they work who their girlfriend or their wife is and part of me wants to like forward it over to their girlfriend or wife but I'm too nice like I don't want to like ruin their lives over there like perverted behavior Well, 0.95

00:15:19.000 that's very kind of you to not do that. 0.91

00:15:21.000 Didn't a guy recently lose his job because they found out he would, yeah, he was a Reddit troll. 1.00

00:15:26.000 It was like, would do evil, evil shit on Reddit. 0.99

00:15:29.000 And some people said, all right, who is this guy? 0.99

00:15:31.000 And then they found, you know, who this guy was.

00:15:34.000 And it was a character that he was playing, like to blow off steam.

00:15:37.000 He would be like, allegedly, he would just be like really evil and nasty online.

00:15:42.000 A small part of me felt kind of bad for him because he had a family to take care of, and it's going to destroy his life.

00:15:49.000 And I get it.

00:15:50.000 Online anonymity allows people to blow off steam in that way.

00:15:54.000 And a lot of people right now, because of the economic crisis, because of all the crap that's going on in the government, all the I'm not interested in censoring them.

00:16:18.000 I know that YouTube is trying to work with their comments so those Negative comments get pushed back to the bottom or whatever and no one can read them.

00:16:26.000 I just feel like, you know, the internet should be an open forum for the most hateful people if they want to be hateful.

00:16:33.000 And we as adults have to have thicker skin and just walk away and not let it get to us.

00:16:40.000 And it's hard to do.

00:16:40.000 It still gets to me.

00:16:41.000 I mean, that's what I opened the show with.

00:16:44.000 I like the way YouTube handles it.

00:16:45.000 If too many people say this comment's retarded, then they eliminate it.

00:16:49.000 But you can always see it.

00:16:50.000 If you wanted to show the comment, you could still show the comment.

00:16:54.000 And they're slowly getting rid of anonymity, where they're attaching the comments to a Google Plus account.

00:16:59.000 So it'll be easier to identify who that person is.

00:17:02.000 I'm not necessarily against that.

00:17:04.000 I just feel like I don't want to move closer toward censorship online.

00:17:08.000 I love that it's an open forum, even though there are negative aspects to it that impact my life.

00:17:14.000 No, I agree with you.

00:17:16.000 I think it's an important method of criticism that was never available before.

00:17:21.000 We have a very honest view of what you do and when they like what you do and when they don't.

00:17:29.000 Even if it's really hypercritical, overcritical, if they have a point, that point probably would have never gotten to you during any other era.

00:17:38.000 If you want to really analyze what you're doing and try to figure out what's the best way to hone this, they'll give you a lot of input.

00:17:45.000 They definitely will.

00:17:46.000 I will say that my political views have changed significantly since I started working at TYT, and it's not necessarily because of my colleagues.

00:17:53.000 It has a lot to do with audience feedback.

00:17:57.000 For instance, what I thought about prostitution when I first started was very different from what I think now.

00:18:02.000 I was definitely against legalizing prostitution.

00:18:05.000 I was in favor of tough-on-crime legislation when it came to dealing with that. 1.00

00:18:10.000 And then I realized, like, this is stupid. 1.00

00:18:12.000 It's not keeping anyone safe. 1.00

00:18:14.000 People are getting hurt as a result of...

00:18:18.000 Pushing this ban against prostitution.

00:18:20.000 So I've changed my views on that.

00:18:23.000 I think that we should legalize it and regulate it because that will create a safe environment.

00:18:26.000 And that's just one example of many.

00:18:29.000 Willie D from the Ghetto Boys said it best.

00:18:31.000 He said, you got to let a hoe be a hoe. 1.00

00:18:33.000 I mean, if you have two consenting adults wanting to do that, exchange money for sex, why the hell not? 0.64

00:18:39.000 It's amazing that we have, like, this huge porn industry in the country, and as long as they do it in front of a camera, it's totally fine.

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

00:18:47.000 But if they do it behind the scenes, it's illegal.

00:18:49.000 Well, it's also weird that you could have sex with anybody you want for free, and there's no crime committed at all.

00:18:55.000 But if money's exchanged, somehow you become a criminal.

00:18:57.000 Both parties.

00:18:58.000 Does anyone really have sex for free, though, when you really think about it?

00:19:01.000 Whoa, Anna, you just got deep.

00:19:03.000 I didn't want to know this about you.

00:19:05.000 I think, yeah, there's people where it evens out.

00:19:10.000 Where it's free.

00:19:11.000 On both sides.

00:19:12.000 No, no, no.

00:19:13.000 But what I mean by that is, usually there's something else involved.

00:19:15.000 I'm not talking about money.

00:19:17.000 Right.

00:19:17.000 But there are emotions involved.

00:19:18.000 There's an exchange of emotions.

00:19:19.000 There's an exchange of something.

00:19:22.000 Fluids.

00:19:22.000 Need to get rid of fluids.

00:19:24.000 True.

00:19:25.000 Yeah, well, you know, there's...

00:19:27.000 Obviously there's massive issues with men versus women as far as how they emotionally connect to sex and also the need. 0.94

00:19:36.000 I don't know what it's like to need sex as a woman.

00:19:38.000 I'm sure it's a very specific itch.

00:19:41.000 Whereas with a male, I'm pretty sure after all my years of observing men and women that it's a different animal.

00:19:48.000 I think horniness for a man is very intoxicating and fogging and confusing.

00:19:53.000 And I don't know if it is for women. 1.00

00:19:54.000 I think that's why a lot of women like a few cocktails first. 1.00

00:19:59.000 They can light up the crazy furnace without...

00:20:02.000 I think the cocktails...

00:20:03.000 I think men and women have similar sexual desires.

00:20:06.000 However, women are not allowed to be... 1.00

00:20:09.000 As open about it because of societal expectations and certain gender roles. 0.98

00:20:14.000 If you are a woman who is open about how much you love sex and how often you want to have sex and how badly you need it, you are looked at as a hoe. 0.95

00:20:22.000 There's no question about it. 1.00

00:20:23.000 People will refer to you as a loose woman, a slutty woman. 1.00

00:20:26.000 That's the reason why a lot of women like to have the cocktails before they have sex, because that'll allow them to let loose and do what they really want to do. 1.00

00:20:33.000 Right.

00:20:33.000 You know, without feeling guilty about it.

00:20:35.000 At least that's my take.

00:20:37.000 And then also, if you don't have sex, if you decide to save yourself for marriage or you save yourself for someone that you genuinely love or whatever, then you're considered a prude.

00:20:47.000 There's really no winning.

00:20:48.000 Right.

00:20:48.000 Yeah, women have a total short end of the stick society-wise when it comes to sex, without a doubt.

00:20:53.000 But I think that if you wanted to say, like, who's going to think that you're a hoe for enjoying sex? 0.99

00:20:59.000 Well, it's definitely going to be women. 1.00

00:21:00.000 There's going to be a lot of women that think you're a hoe. 1.00

00:21:02.000 And it's definitely going to be guys who you won't have sex with. 0.97

00:21:05.000 Right, right.

00:21:05.000 So what's left?

00:21:07.000 You're only left with two groups of guys.

00:21:10.000 There's guys that would have zero problem with it at all, and then there's guys that would only have a problem with it if you weren't attracted to them. 0.99

00:21:21.000 See, it weeds out assholes. 0.99

00:21:23.000 So if you were a chick and you were just like, listen, I'm a freak, I like to get fucked all day long, that's what I'm into, you'll find exactly the right people you need in your life. 1.00

00:21:32.000 That's an interesting perspective. 0.99

00:21:34.000 Girls won't want to have anything to do with you. 1.00

00:21:36.000 I know, but you'll also attract a lot of really scary, pervy people. 0.96

00:21:41.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:21:41.000 Instantly.

00:21:43.000 Because I think for a lot of people, especially in the culture we're living right now, if you're that open about your sexual desires, people will see that as a green light to do things that might even be considered illegal.

00:21:55.000 Whether it's harassment or sexual assault or something.

00:21:58.000 That's true. 0.96

00:21:59.000 And also, I mean, this is like Probably bullshit, but I would imagine that if you're the type of person that starts getting into threesomes and tying each other up, and you start getting really freaky, it's way easy to go too far with that. 0.98

00:22:16.000 If you hear about someone like, I'm just into sex all day long, I just love sex. 0.99

00:22:20.000 Is it just sex? 0.97

00:22:21.000 Or how long does it take before a ball gag comes out? 0.99

00:22:23.000 You know?

00:22:24.000 Is it a month in your relationship?

00:22:26.000 You know?

00:22:27.000 Like, a year later.

00:22:28.000 What are you going to be into a year from now?

00:22:29.000 Just duct tape.

00:22:30.000 Dude, I like ripping it off of her. 1.00

00:22:32.000 You know, there's people that get in.

00:22:33.000 Like, how does that happen?

00:22:35.000 They go down one of those pervy roads.

00:22:37.000 Yeah.

00:22:38.000 Now you just got deep.

00:22:39.000 Yeah, you go down Pervy Road, and you just can't get satisfied.

00:22:43.000 It's like, people have this weird thing of constantly wanting progress.

00:22:47.000 If they have a house that's 4,000 square feet, they want a house that's 5,000 square feet.

00:22:52.000 If they make half a million dollars a year, they want to make a million dollars a year. 0.99

00:22:55.000 They always want to take things to the next level, and that includes freaky shit. 0.99

00:22:58.000 Well, that's the American way. 0.99

00:23:00.000 You always want more, more.

00:23:01.000 You want the bigger TV. And even I'm definitely guilty of that.

00:23:05.000 You know, I live in a really modest apartment that I love.

00:23:08.000 But the other day I was like, you know, I could probably go for a bigger apartment.

00:23:12.000 But why?

00:23:12.000 I live by myself.

00:23:13.000 My apartment's fine.

00:23:14.000 I don't need a bigger one, right?

00:23:16.000 When it comes to...

00:23:18.000 You know, physical stuff, I think you kind of just get desensitized by things.

00:23:23.000 You know, there have been many studies about what porn does to the brain, and you start off by watching something that might be considered softcore, and that's enough to, you know, do the job.

00:23:33.000 And then all of a sudden you're watching more and more hardcore stuff, and you just become desensitized to it.

00:23:39.000 And for a lot of teenage boys that grow up on that kind of stuff, that's what they expect from women, you know, or girls once they start having sex.

00:23:46.000 It's really scary stuff.

00:23:48.000 And it's changing people's sexuality without a doubt.

00:23:51.000 The bush is gone.

00:23:52.000 The bush died because of porn.

00:23:54.000 I heard that you're upset about that.

00:23:56.000 I'm terrified.

00:23:57.000 They let porn win.

00:23:59.000 It just doesn't make sense.

00:24:01.000 It's like everybody let porn win.

00:24:03.000 Before, nobody had a problem until like 1990. Nobody had a problem with a hairy vagina. 1.00

00:24:08.000 It was just what it was. 0.99

00:24:10.000 I mean, people trimmed around them, but generally there was a lot going on down there.

00:24:14.000 Especially if you dated an Italian girl or what have you.

00:24:17.000 But now it's like their victory is just universal. 0.99

00:24:22.000 It's like the victory over that aesthetic, the victory over the shaved, waxed genitals. 0.93

00:24:27.000 Well, those women are supposed to symbolize male desire. 1.00

00:24:30.000 They're supposed to symbolize what a man wants.

00:24:33.000 And then that has an influence on regular women. 1.00

00:24:36.000 And they think, oh, am I supposed to look that way?

00:24:39.000 Am I supposed to groom that way?

00:24:41.000 There have been stories of women that injure themselves because they'll go get bleached in areas that they shouldn't be getting bleached. 0.95

00:24:47.000 And it's just amazing to me that it's that influential.

00:24:51.000 I know.

00:24:51.000 Yeah, it's very strange.

00:24:52.000 It's a silent, influential thing.

00:24:54.000 It is.

00:24:55.000 It's very odd.

00:24:57.000 When the markets were crashing and government bailouts were going down, I was fascinated.

00:25:03.000 I was like, how come nobody ever wanted to bail out the porn industry?

00:25:06.000 Why would they pretend that the porn industry is in this giant monster business that all of a sudden just evaporated?

00:25:14.000 Half of it, three quarters of it, I don't know what the number of it that just disappeared.

00:25:18.000 Yeah, because of the internet.

00:25:19.000 Right, so who's pretending that this isn't a real business?

00:25:24.000 Everyone's like, well, I guess they'll just have to exist on their own.

00:25:28.000 Meanwhile, you're watching it.

00:25:29.000 That person's a fan of it.

00:25:31.000 He probably has a bunch of different videos that he has bookmarked on his laptop or something.

00:25:35.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:25:36.000 But at the same time, which politician would come out and say, we need to bail out the porn industry? 0.73

00:25:41.000 That would be political suicide.

00:25:43.000 We live in this puritanical society.

00:25:45.000 I mean, that would be...

00:25:46.000 Well, there's also the same sort of feeling that happened with the music business.

00:25:51.000 The music business went out as well with the downloads of MP3s and file sharing.

00:25:57.000 They lost a giant piece of revenue.

00:26:00.000 I mean, it just evaporated.

00:26:01.000 And no one really was considering bailing them out either.

00:26:04.000 It was like, you know, you kind of should have figured this out, dummies.

00:26:06.000 Yeah, well, I agree with you on that, but at the same time, everything always goes back to who is funding our politicians.

00:26:14.000 You know, Wall Street, these big bankers, these are the people that fund the campaigns for our politicians, which is why they just willy-nilly went for the bailout.

00:26:23.000 And by the way, after the bailout happened, we did nothing to break up these too-big-to-fail banks.

00:26:30.000 They still exist. 0.99

00:26:31.000 And they're still doing the same type of bullshit that'll lead to another economic collapse. 0.99

00:26:36.000 I mean, the regulation that we passed was nothing. 0.99

00:26:39.000 So it's just, it always goes back to money and politics, which, you know, we talk about on this show all the time.

00:26:46.000 If someone is funding you, whether it's the media or whether you're a politician, you're not going to go against them.

00:26:51.000 You're always going to bail them out.

00:26:53.000 Yeah, Terence McKenna described it as a special interest oligarchy, disguising itself as a democracy.

00:27:02.000 Oh yeah, we have legalized bribery in this country.

00:27:05.000 It's amazing, though, isn't it?

00:27:07.000 I mean, when you really stop and think that it's gotten to the point that it is today, where essentially it's open, it's pretty obvious, they control virtually every single aspect of our economy, our society.

00:27:20.000 It's all just money-generating hubs, these big giant spaceships filled with assholes that are just sucking money out of whatever, whether it's through oil or natural gas or whatever they're doing.

00:27:33.000 Why do oil subsidies exist? 0.96

00:27:35.000 That's a good question.

00:27:36.000 Why don't people ask the government that?

00:27:38.000 Why the hell are we giving these massive, profitable oil companies subsidies?

00:27:44.000 It's insane.

00:27:45.000 At the same time, we're cutting funding for education.

00:27:47.000 We're privatizing public schools, which is a complete and utter disaster.

00:27:52.000 Subsidy sounds like they should get it. 1.00

00:27:54.000 It's like oil subsidies.

00:27:56.000 Okay, oil subsidies.

00:27:58.000 It's not like oil donations or oil payola.

00:28:02.000 If they called it oil payola, people would go, wait a minute.

00:28:05.000 What is that?

00:28:06.000 Why do they get more?

00:28:07.000 Don't they have a lot of money?

00:28:08.000 What's happening here?

00:28:09.000 Most profitable industry in the United States, in the world.

00:28:12.000 So it's frustrating stuff.

00:28:15.000 But fortunately, there are ways around it.

00:28:18.000 Citizens United was a terrible Supreme Court ruling.

00:28:21.000 You know, which effectively allows corporations to act as people and make these unlimited campaign donations to politicians.

00:28:28.000 So one way that you can get around that is by creating a constitutional amendment, which we're trying to do at the Young Turks.

00:28:34.000 There's a political action committee that we formed called Wolfpack.

00:28:38.000 Your audience can learn more about it at wolf-pack.com.

00:28:43.000 and basically it would have state leaders propose a resolution and the resolution would create a constitutional convention where you can make an amendment to the Constitution that would get money out of politics and that would fix so many problems because then our broken democracy would change into a system that it was intended to be where our elected politicians are supposed to represent us the people instead of corporations Well,

00:29:12.000 when you back something in the corner and shine a light on it, you really get to know its true nature.

00:29:16.000 And if that ever does come to play, it would be a very fascinating moment to see how the system that's in place today would deal with the idea of taking money out of politics and what kind of a scramble would take place.

00:29:28.000 It would be quite weird to see.

00:29:32.000 I'm not going to lie.

00:29:33.000 It's definitely going to be difficult to do.

00:29:35.000 I... You know, Cenk Uygur is really optimistic about it.

00:29:38.000 I'm not as optimistic as he is.

00:29:40.000 But I think that if the American people become a little more politically active and they sign the petitions necessary and they hold their state representatives accountable, I think that this could happen.

00:29:53.000 You know, it just takes a little bit of political activism.

00:29:56.000 And unfortunately, there's this huge level of apathy right now, which I don't understand because The political climate is leading to, you know, this economic meltdown and all of the problems that people are experiencing right now, income inequality, wealth inequality.

00:30:11.000 It's scary stuff.

00:30:13.000 I mean, we lie to ourselves when we say that we live in the best country in the world.

00:30:17.000 We have legalized bribery.

00:30:18.000 We need to fix it.

00:30:19.000 We need to fix our democratic process.

00:30:22.000 When you look at the future of this country, the way it's running, the way it is currently operated, how long can that, it seems like it's falling apart at the wheels.

00:30:31.000 It seems like it's like this crazy thing that's spinning and shaking and sucking money out and freaking out.

00:30:38.000 How long can this thing operate the way it is right now?

00:30:40.000 I'm not sure.

00:30:41.000 I mean, that's a really good question, but people are really starting to feel the downfall of how our system is working.

00:30:50.000 Just to give you an example, this number blows my mind.

00:30:53.000 The top 10% in this country own 75% of the wealth.

00:30:58.000 That is bananas.

00:31:00.000 That's a lot of money.

00:31:01.000 That's a lot of money.

00:31:02.000 That's a lot of ballers. 0.94

00:31:03.000 Ten percent ballers. 0.99

00:31:04.000 Ten percent ballers. 0.99

00:31:05.000 Everyone else is struggling.

00:31:06.000 They're struggling.

00:31:08.000 Top one percent owns one-third of the wealth in the country.

00:31:11.000 And so people are struggling to make ends meet.

00:31:15.000 And the reason why that's happening is because we're seeing these huge tax cuts for the most wealthiest people.

00:31:23.000 Why is it that we're supposed to have the highest corporate tax rate, but because of corporate loopholes, we actually have the lowest corporate tax rate?

00:31:32.000 I mean, we've got to get rid of those loopholes.

00:31:34.000 And then you have the Republicans saying, yeah, you know what, we should raise taxes.

00:31:37.000 One way we can do that is by getting rid of deductions.

00:31:40.000 Which deduction do they want to go after?

00:31:42.000 Homeowners.

00:31:43.000 They want to go after people who get that interest rate deduction in their taxes.

00:31:49.000 And that, of course, impacts the middle class.

00:31:52.000 So there's just a lot of frustrating stuff going on.

00:31:55.000 It seems like there's too much stuff going on for everybody to pay attention to everything.

00:31:59.000 That's one of the reasons where the apathy comes in.

00:32:01.000 It's just too freaky.

00:32:02.000 There's too much happening.

00:32:03.000 It's too nutty.

00:32:04.000 It's not going to get fixed. 1.00

00:32:06.000 Shit! 1.00

00:32:06.000 Close the shade. 1.00

00:32:07.000 I'm going to take a nap.

00:32:08.000 I'm going to watch the Kardashians or play video games or do whatever I need to do to distract myself.

00:32:13.000 And I don't blame people for doing that.

00:32:14.000 A lot of these issues are really complicated and complex.

00:32:17.000 You know, you have to sit down and do so much research.

00:32:20.000 We have this mainstream media that's also broken.

00:32:23.000 They're not reporting the real news.

00:32:25.000 You know, you have to really depend on independent media to get real facts.

00:32:28.000 And so I don't blame people for wanting to be distracted.

00:32:31.000 But at the same time, if we allow things to continue the way they are, we're going to have the wealthiest people living in their castles with moats around them while we're going to struggle to find private security because everything that is publicly funded is going to be defunded.

00:32:45.000 including our education, we're seeing that happen now.

00:32:48.000 Nobody ever wants to think that the operating system that we have that runs our society could fall apart.

00:32:54.000 Nobody ever wants to think that all of a sudden there would be no cops because they don't get paid.

00:32:57.000 But that's happened in places like Camden, New Jersey.

00:33:00.000 Yep.

00:33:00.000 Perfect example.

00:33:01.000 They didn't have cops.

00:33:02.000 It's insane.

00:33:03.000 And of course, I mean, it's common sense.

00:33:05.000 Yeah.

00:33:05.000 Their crime rate shot up as a result of that.

00:33:08.000 Of course.

00:33:08.000 It was a free ride.

00:33:09.000 Yep.

00:33:09.000 I mean, if you were like a really bad person, that is like the best place to move in the country.

00:33:14.000 Yep.

00:33:15.000 People are like, look, there's no cops.

00:33:16.000 They don't even have them.

00:33:17.000 Yeah.

00:33:18.000 That's a small little crumbling in the foundation of our society.

00:33:23.000 Just a little one, and maybe they fixed it for now, but eventually that could happen.

00:33:28.000 There was an Anthony Bourdain special I was watching today.

00:33:30.000 Love him, by the way.

00:33:31.000 Yeah, he's great.

00:33:32.000 His new show, the CNN show, he was in Detroit.

00:33:37.000 And he was just going over these factories where they used to make these amazing cars and now they're just completely falling apart.

00:33:44.000 And it's freaky.

00:33:46.000 It's freaky to see how this city of 2 million plus people now is like less than 700,000 and you can buy a house for like 500 bucks.

00:33:54.000 And he was like touring around the city and checking it out.

00:33:56.000 And I was like, if that can happen that quickly, that's just one city.

00:34:01.000 That can happen other places too.

00:34:02.000 Like this whole thing is like barely hanging together with chewing gum.

00:34:06.000 And I think the most frustrating part about that is, you know, we have politicians that will pass policies that lead to the collapse of certain cities.

00:34:16.000 California is in a lot of trouble right now because of a proposition we passed in 1978 called Proposition 13. It kept property taxes at 1.2%.

00:34:24.000 And as a result, we started defunding our education, which is why the LAUSD went from being one of the best school districts in the country to being one of the worst school districts in the country.

00:34:33.000 And we just lost out on a ton of revenue as a result of our low, very low property taxes.

00:34:41.000 They'll pass policies like that.

00:34:43.000 In the case of California, of course, Californians voted for it, which was disastrous.

00:34:47.000 But then at the same time, they'll cut government programs that'll help the poorest people, whether it's the SNAP program or the food stamp program or, you know, the welfare programs or whatever that help needy kids.

00:34:59.000 And it's like, look, if you don't want to spend this much money on governmental programs or social programs, then stop passing policies and tax cuts that make it really, really difficult for people to make ends meet.

00:35:11.000 Well, I think if it wasn't for shows like yours and people like you and Cenk who are exposing this stuff and people in the new media, people that are writing these very, very popular blogs, if it wasn't for that, this information wouldn't be going out. 0.91

00:35:25.000 And if the information wasn't going out, people wouldn't realize what a clusterfuck it really is.

00:35:29.000 They would tune into the nightly news and get this sense that everything's going to be okay, which is basically what America did until the internet came around.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, definitely. 0.96

00:35:37.000 It seems like within the 10, 15 plus years of the active internet, the whole world has just stopped and went, wait, what the fuck are we doing?

00:35:44.000 Like, everyone's shaking their head, looking left and right.

00:35:47.000 Confusion, turmoil, and questioning on a level that I don't think we've seen before.

00:35:52.000 And this weird new thing where anybody can just stick a camera and attach, you know, USB it to a laptop and boom, you're online.

00:36:01.000 I know.

00:36:01.000 Making YouTube videos or making MP3s.

00:36:04.000 Yeah.

00:36:04.000 It's incredible.

00:36:05.000 It's a weird, weird time.

00:36:07.000 It gets me really excited, just thinking about it, because the possibilities are endless.

00:36:12.000 And, I mean, we had the Young Turks.

00:36:15.000 We had no marketing budget.

00:36:16.000 We had no publicity.

00:36:18.000 We had nothing.

00:36:19.000 All we did was create a business model that worked.

00:36:23.000 Cenk does the really serious political reporting, which I'm jealous of.

00:36:27.000 That's what I want to do.

00:36:28.000 And then I come in and I do the stuff that goes viral online.

00:36:31.000 Why would you be jealous of paying attention to this system?

00:36:35.000 I love politics.

00:36:37.000 Really?

00:36:37.000 I love politics.

00:36:38.000 And don't get me wrong.

00:36:40.000 Why don't you marry it?

00:36:41.000 Maybe I will.

00:36:42.000 No, I love...

00:36:44.000 I mean, I studied political science for my master's and it's just always been a passion of mine since I was in high school.

00:36:50.000 So, even though things are really bad right now, I have this passion to try to make a difference.

00:36:56.000 And so, I see Cenk making a difference, and I'm really proud of him, and he's someone that's been my mentor, someone that I look up to, and, you know, I want to be able to analyze politics as well as he does.

00:37:08.000 At the same time, you know, I was brought in for something completely different.

00:37:11.000 I was brought in to make the company money, and that's basically what I do.

00:37:15.000 The stories that I cover in my hour of the show are sometimes very important social stories, whether it's gay rights, women's rights, whatever, men's rights when it comes to how they get screwed over when it comes to children and marriage and basically the law.

00:37:32.000 Men are basically screwed over when it comes to sexual harassment and stuff, but women aren't. 1.00

00:37:37.000 It's amazing. 1.00

00:37:39.000 But that's a side note. 0.99

00:37:41.000 But then, you know, I'll do the stories that are really stupid, but people love them. 0.96

00:37:45.000 Like, we'll do a Miley Cyrus story, and it'll get, like, millions of views, and we'll make a ton of money off that video, but there's no value to that story. 0.97

00:37:54.000 So I always feel guilty doing it.

00:37:56.000 So I'll have days where I'm just like, yeah, I'm...

00:37:59.000 I'm a big failure.

00:38:01.000 This is what I do for my life, and I feel guilty about it. 0.97

00:38:04.000 I hear what you're saying, but at the same time, following politics is like following some fucking fake minstrel show. 0.98

00:38:11.000 It's fake. 0.99

00:38:12.000 It's discouraging.

00:38:13.000 There's no question about it.

00:38:14.000 I had this conversation with Jamie Kilstein once, a dude from Citizen Radio.

00:38:20.000 They were talking about politics and I go, do you ever think that by following this fake horse and pony show that you're like lending credence to it? 0.98

00:38:29.000 Because you're an intelligent person and you're pretending this isn't all just assholes who are getting bribed. 0.99

00:38:34.000 Because that's what it really is. 0.99

00:38:35.000 It's really just a bunch of assholes that are getting bribed and they're cronyism and all this weird shit going on with laws and things they can and can't get away with and what they can and can't get charged with. 0.99

00:38:46.000 Well, I mean, look, there's a huge difference between political reporters in the mainstream that just report on it, but they don't really give a shit about making a difference. 0.98

00:38:54.000 And then there's a huge difference between people like Jamie and Allison on Citizen Radio or the Young Turks or any other, you know, what is it called? 0.90

00:39:04.000 Name just lost me.

00:39:05.000 Alex Jones?

00:39:06.000 No, not Alex Jones.

00:39:08.000 Infowars.com!

00:39:09.000 Alex Jones.

00:39:10.000 You guys have been stealing our thunder!

00:39:13.000 We're coming at you with YouTube views!

00:39:17.000 Infowars.com, the number one media source in the nation.

00:39:21.000 Young Turks tries to pretend they have similar ratings.

00:39:26.000 So you've seen that.

00:39:27.000 That's awesome.

00:39:28.000 Alex is a friend of mine.

00:39:29.000 Is he? 0.98

00:39:30.000 Yeah, he's crazy. 1.00

00:39:31.000 Yeah, he's crazy. 1.00

00:39:32.000 He's out of his mind. 1.00

00:39:33.000 I have no problem with someone...

00:39:35.000 He's a great guy, though.

00:39:36.000 You'd love him.

00:39:37.000 If you met him, he's a sweetheart.

00:39:38.000 Cenk did meet him, and he ended up liking him.

00:39:40.000 So I believe it.

00:39:41.000 I believe it.

00:39:41.000 But his response video to us was hilarious on so many different levels.

00:39:45.000 Like, put a shirt on, Duke. 1.00

00:39:47.000 Put a fucking shirt on. 1.00

00:39:48.000 Like, if you're trying to make a decent point, and you don't want to seem like you're loony, put a fucking shirt on. 1.00

00:39:55.000 But don't. 1.00

00:39:55.000 If you're Alex Jones, you don't need a fucking shirt! 1.00

00:39:58.000 I'm on over 100 AM and FM stations. 1.00

00:40:00.000 XM. By the way, he's probably naked, too.

00:40:04.000 Ah, don't tell me that!

00:40:05.000 Most likely, he's website.

00:40:07.000 No one's gonna care!

00:40:09.000 Oh, I love this video.

00:40:17.000 He's number one, period!

00:40:19.000 By the way, here's one thing he's missing.

00:40:23.000 It's a shirt.

00:40:26.000 He's going to address that later. 1.00

00:40:29.000 He's crazy. 0.86

00:40:30.000 I've known Alex for a long time. 0.90

00:40:33.000 I did a DVD in 1999, and he and I put on Bush masks.

00:40:38.000 I was Bush Jr., and he was Bush Sr., and we put on these masks.

00:40:42.000 We ran around the Austin State Capitol, the front yard, and filmed it when Bush got elected.

00:40:49.000 The title of the DVD was Belly of the Beast, so it was right when Bush was getting elected, we decided to do this in Austin.

00:40:55.000 And him and me are in this video, and he's singing a song.

00:40:59.000 He sings this crazy New World Order song that he wrote.

00:41:03.000 That's not us.

00:41:04.000 That's a different one.

00:41:06.000 We were actually wearing these masks, but I've known him forever.

00:41:11.000 He's a really good guy.

00:41:12.000 I don't deny that.

00:41:14.000 I'm sure he is a good guy.

00:41:16.000 Tell me the truth.

00:41:19.000 Is he, like, playing a role when he's on camera?

00:41:23.000 Because I don't believe that he's really that crazy.

00:41:26.000 Like, some of the stuff he says, I just don't believe he believes.

00:41:30.000 I do not know.

00:41:32.000 I would not pretend to know.

00:41:33.000 I think he's a very complex man.

00:41:35.000 I think there's a lot going on beneath the surface.

00:41:38.000 There's a lot of layers to that cake. 1.00

00:41:40.000 And I think that a lot of people look at him and think he's a screaming maniac, but he was right about a lot of shit a long time ago. 0.99

00:41:48.000 He was saying that the NSA is going to be reading all your emails and looking through. 0.99

00:41:52.000 He said they're going to make deals with major data networks, with AT&T and Google.

00:41:59.000 He was saying this a long time ago.

00:42:01.000 And I specifically remember having conversations with a friend and him.

00:42:05.000 And my friend was like, that is so crazy.

00:42:07.000 Why would they do that?

00:42:08.000 They're not going to do that.

00:42:09.000 Do you really think that the law would ever let them do that?

00:42:11.000 The law!

00:42:12.000 The law!

00:42:12.000 They own the law!

00:42:13.000 And he'll get fucking crazy and he'll go Alex Jonesy on you. 0.99

00:42:18.000 But, you know, here's the thing. 0.98

00:42:19.000 That strategy or that delivery is effective because there have been people who have been reporting about, you know, civil liberties violations for a while and they get no attention.

00:42:30.000 So sometimes the squeaky wheel will get the attention.

00:42:33.000 And, you know, if that's what he needs to do to get coverage of those important news stories, it's totally fine.

00:42:38.000 The thing is, you know, There are little sprinkles of truth to some of the stuff that he reports, and then some of the stuff that he reports is just crazy, and it's made up.

00:42:48.000 So it's like, I don't know where to fall with that guy, because I want to support him with some stories, but then other stories, I'm like, dude, you need to tone it down.

00:42:57.000 Well, I don't know what the process is for acquiring information, vetting it out, and then publishing it, yelling at the YouTube channel.

00:43:05.000 I don't know what the process is.

00:43:07.000 But I know that he's right about a lot of things.

00:43:09.000 And I know that he's passionate about a lot of things.

00:43:12.000 But I think that he probably needs a better filter.

00:43:16.000 Yeah.

00:43:17.000 I think there's a few rants he'll go on where you're like, wait a minute.

00:43:22.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

00:43:23.000 What the fuck are they doing? 1.00

00:43:25.000 Chemtrails! 1.00

00:43:25.000 Do you understand how many planes are in the sky every night? 1.00

00:43:29.000 Spraying chemtrails!

00:43:31.000 Blocking out the sun! 0.99

00:43:32.000 I can't even fucking grow tomatoes here in Austin, Texas! 0.99

00:43:36.000 No, no, no. 0.99

00:43:37.000 Your impression of him is amazing. 0.98

00:43:39.000 I've been hanging out with him for fucking more than a decade. 0.98

00:43:41.000 That's uncanny. 1.00

00:43:42.000 That's insane.

00:43:43.000 But he'll go off about something, and then you'll go, but did you know that this and that and that...

00:43:48.000 You'll have counters to those, but those don't get in there.

00:43:52.000 Yeah.

00:43:52.000 Those don't get in there.

00:43:53.000 They get New World ordered out.

00:43:55.000 They get Black helicoptered out.

00:43:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:43:57.000 They just ricochet off. 0.98

00:43:58.000 He wants to see a conspiracy in every fucking thing that's ever existed, ever. 0.97

00:44:02.000 If you come up to him about whatever it is, name it, JFK, the Iran-Contra, Whitewater, Death of Vince Foster... 0.99

00:44:09.000 There's a million stories!

00:44:11.000 They never end. 1.00

00:44:13.000 He'll just fucking come at you. 0.98

00:44:14.000 But he's been right about a lot of stuff that's really freaky. 0.99

00:44:17.000 One thing that he reported on that very few people caught was the use of paid police officers to pretend to be people that are in a crowd protesting.

00:44:29.000 And then agent provocateurs.

00:44:31.000 And they would start smashing things.

00:44:33.000 He covered this in Seattle when the World Trade Organization was making their, I believe it was the 90s, when there was these massive protests and the protests went violent.

00:44:43.000 Well, he has all these photos of their bottom of their boots, military-issue Vibrams, and he points all this like, these are police officers.

00:44:52.000 They're wearing masks, no one else is, and they're the only ones doing any damage.

00:44:56.000 They're smashing things.

00:44:57.000 And they're doing it so then the police can come in and start arresting peaceful people, which they normally couldn't do. 0.98

00:45:03.000 And I thought that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. 0.93

00:45:06.000 The crazy thing is, when it came to the Occupy protesters, they weren't even Asian provocateurs. 1.00

00:45:11.000 They were just cops breaking shit and starting the violence. 0.99

00:45:15.000 And they got a little bit of criticism for it. 0.99

00:45:18.000 The media would pick up the story and make it seem as though the Occupy protesters were the violent ones.

00:45:23.000 They would do everything necessary to discredit them, which made me so angry because finally in this country there was a little bit of political activism.

00:45:32.000 They changed the conversation. 0.97

00:45:34.000 Because we were talking about bullshit until Occupy came along and talked about wealth inequality. 0.99

00:45:40.000 And then, you know, you have the mainstream that totally discredited them, and then they just kind of fizzled out. 0.99

00:45:45.000 And I had so much hope for that movement. 0.97

00:45:48.000 Do you know what fucked that movement? 0.94

00:45:50.000 Them not being organized. 0.98

00:45:51.000 Soap.

00:45:52.000 Soap?

00:45:53.000 Soap.

00:45:54.000 They didn't get enough soap.

00:45:55.000 Oh, I see what you're saying. 1.00

00:45:56.000 There's too many stinky motherfuckers out there in drum circles. 1.00

00:45:59.000 That was a big part of it. 1.00

00:46:00.000 I covered Occupy LA and Occupy Oakland.

00:46:04.000 Occupy Oakland was a scary situation to cover because they were a lot more militant there.

00:46:10.000 I mean, their intentions were in the right place, but their delivery was a little scary, so I just kind of felt... 0.99

00:46:16.000 Like shit could hit the fan? 0.99

00:46:18.000 Yeah, like one wrong move and violence could break out. 1.00

00:46:21.000 But it was because they were overly protective.

00:46:25.000 They knew what was happening to other protesters.

00:46:28.000 Look at what happened at UC Davis, I think, with that cop spraying that pepper spray on those students that are just sitting there.

00:46:35.000 So I think that they were just overly protective, as they should have been, because of the treatment that all these protesters were dealing with.

00:46:41.000 And the treatment throughout history.

00:46:43.000 I mean, all they have to do is go back and to look at what was going on during the Vietnam War.

00:46:46.000 Look at what happened at Kent State when they started shooting.

00:46:49.000 The National Guard is shooting at students that were protesting.

00:46:53.000 I mean, that's not that long ago.

00:46:55.000 People are aware of that kind of stuff. 0.97

00:46:57.000 But when I saw this Alex Jones thing, I really thought it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen. 0.93

00:47:01.000 I was like, there's no way that could ever be possible. 0.89

00:47:04.000 And then he presents it very clearly, very cleanly, over and over again.

00:47:09.000 All the different news stories that pointed to different various incidents that took place, including them sequestered.

00:47:16.000 They got all of the agent provocateurs in a house.

00:47:19.000 The cops negotiated with them and then let them go.

00:47:21.000 I mean, the whole thing was so cut and dry and clear.

00:47:25.000 When you have evidence backing up, you know, your belief that something is a conspiracy, then of course, I mean, you have strong evidence and I'll believe it.

00:47:33.000 But it's one thing to have the evidence, it's another thing to purport that something is going on and then not having the evidence to back up.

00:47:40.000 That's why I said I think he needs a filter.

00:47:42.000 I think he's got a lot of...

00:47:44.000 His heart and his intentions are in the right place.

00:47:46.000 And the dude will go to war. 0.98

00:47:48.000 He'll fucking roll his sleeves up and duke it out in the street with somebody. 1.00

00:47:51.000 He's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:47:52.000 Alex is nuts. 1.00

00:47:53.000 He's a madman. 1.00

00:47:54.000 But he's also a good guy. 0.99

00:47:56.000 I just think that he needs a filter.

00:47:59.000 But he's right more than he's wrong.

00:48:01.000 I'll tell you that.

00:48:02.000 Especially now.

00:48:02.000 This is Alex and me.

00:48:06.000 That's Alex on the left and me on the right and this is his song.

00:48:12.000 Oh my god.

00:48:14.000 That's Alex singing.

00:48:20.000 That's great.

00:48:22.000 That's my buddy.

00:48:24.000 There he is.

00:48:25.000 He sounds like a fun person to hang out with.

00:48:27.000 Yeah, he's very fun to hang out with.

00:48:29.000 He's great to drink beers with.

00:48:31.000 Yeah, I can imagine.

00:48:31.000 He's a good dude.

00:48:32.000 He's funny. 0.99

00:48:33.000 He says a lot of really funny shit. 0.99

00:48:35.000 He's a good guy, too. 0.99

00:48:36.000 He's a sweetheart.

00:48:37.000 He really is.

00:48:37.000 So did he ever talk to you about why he got on us?

00:48:39.000 About, like, views?

00:48:40.000 No, I don't ask him any questions about things like that.

00:48:43.000 He's been in some disputes with friends of mine, and he's been in disputes with all kinds of people.

00:48:48.000 Let's go, it's just Alex, man.

00:48:49.000 You're going to have to deal with that on your own.

00:48:51.000 That is really funny.

00:48:53.000 Like I said, he's a good guy.

00:48:55.000 He wants a better America.

00:48:58.000 He really does.

00:48:58.000 He's not a greedy guy.

00:49:00.000 He's not a guy who's in it for the money.

00:49:02.000 He'll give you the shirt off his back.

00:49:04.000 Clearly!

00:49:05.000 I've already sent it!

00:49:06.000 Send it using stamps.com!

00:49:08.000 He really is the real deal.

00:49:12.000 He really wants a better America. 1.00

00:49:14.000 He really wants to get out all the corruption and the scum. 0.98

00:49:17.000 But he believes that the global elites are trying to live to be a thousand years old. 0.96

00:49:20.000 What they're doing right now with stem cells, the reason why the Bush administration...

00:49:24.000 And they'll just like...

00:49:25.000 How did you meet him?

00:49:27.000 How did that happen?

00:49:28.000 I met him in Texas through a friend of mine.

00:49:31.000 I was friends with him.

00:49:32.000 I knew him from his radio day.

00:49:34.000 Well, he still has a radio show, but now it's more internet-based.

00:49:37.000 But he had a radio show.

00:49:38.000 I think his radio show is still pretty popular, though. 0.99

00:49:40.000 And those dudes that have those fucking ham radios... 1.00

00:49:44.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:49:45.000 They tune in.

00:49:46.000 They tune in to Alex Jones. 0.99

00:49:48.000 They're fucking just thinking that... 0.99

00:49:49.000 There's that thinking. 0.99

00:49:51.000 The only problem with that is just that thinking that goes along with that, which is like collect gold, like dig a hole in the ground for a nuclear shelter, like preppers, and people start putting battery rams in their pickup trucks.

00:50:03.000 It's crazy.

00:50:03.000 I don't think that's the way to do it.

00:50:05.000 I don't want to live my life like that, where you're constantly paranoid and you're worried about doomsday. 0.95

00:50:11.000 Look, there's some really scary shit happening in the government right now, and I will not take away from that. 0.97

00:50:18.000 But I don't believe in the doomsday preppers. 0.99

00:50:21.000 They need to calm down.

00:50:22.000 Their paranoia is misplaced.

00:50:24.000 Unless something happens like what happened two days ago in the Philippines.

00:50:28.000 Yep.

00:50:28.000 Yeah.

00:50:29.000 That's the real issue.

00:50:30.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 Mother Nature. 1.00

00:50:32.000 Mother Nature is the issue and we keep fucking with her. 1.00

00:50:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:50:36.000 Allegedly.

00:50:37.000 Because, you know, not enough scientists agree on, you know, man-made climate change.

00:50:42.000 Well, there's plenty of scientists that disagree.

00:50:45.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

00:50:46.000 They all happen to be working for oil companies, gas companies, those motherfuckers. 0.99

00:50:51.000 The Koch brothers will fund scientists to put out studies that claim that Either climate change does not exist, this is just a normal trend that we're experiencing with our planet, or that it exists but it's not created by humans. 0.99

00:51:06.000 Well, they went way back to the 1950s, they were doing that with cigarettes.

00:51:09.000 When people were trying to come out saying, hey, I think these things are giving us cancer. 0.89

00:51:13.000 They fucking funded a shitload of studies and were like, no, look, it's actually good for you. 0.95

00:51:17.000 Totally good for you, yeah. 0.99

00:51:18.000 They can find certain things.

00:51:20.000 We were talking about on the podcast yesterday where nicotine actually can be a medicine in certain circumstances.

00:51:26.000 I think it can help people with heart issues and ADHD issues and all these different things. 1.00

00:51:30.000 So you could find a way to rationalize if you were a real piece of shit that you should probably smoke cigarettes. 1.00

00:51:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:51:38.000 You won't get ADHD. Yeah.

00:51:40.000 I mean, it's just like another example of money influencing the behavior of Americans and the information that gets put out there.

00:51:49.000 Yeah.

00:51:50.000 When we were talking earlier about being addicted to items and being addicted to things and how you wanted to get a bigger apartment even though you don't need it, I'm guilty as charged too, but I think about it all the time.

00:52:01.000 And what I'm starting to believe is that human beings, like the reason why...

00:52:06.000 We like to think of ourselves as being something that we're much more in control of than just the woes of nature.

00:52:13.000 But I kind of think that more likely than that, everything is natural.

00:52:17.000 And even though we break down like ant behavior as being natural and wolf behavior as being natural, But humans, well, you know, we have free will, and we have education, and we have...

00:52:26.000 Maybe, but...

00:52:28.000 When I look at, like, the trend, like, where it is right now, let's...

00:52:31.000 I don't know how it got here, but let's pretend it's all nature.

00:52:33.000 What is it doing?

00:52:34.000 Well, what it's doing is it's making things.

00:52:45.000 Yeah.

00:52:58.000 It's also a status thing.

00:53:01.000 It's a status symbol to have the latest and greatest.

00:53:04.000 No doubt.

00:53:05.000 We recently covered this story about Barneys.

00:53:07.000 I don't know if you talked about it at all on your show, but there was this young black man who went into a Barneys.

00:53:13.000 He purchased a $350 belt with a debit card.

00:53:16.000 And allegedly, the cashier called the authorities on him because she didn't believe that a black guy can afford this $350 belt.

00:53:26.000 So the cops came.

00:53:27.000 They started questioning him.

00:53:29.000 They said, we need proof indicating that that's your debit card.

00:53:33.000 He had to call Chase.

00:53:35.000 And prove, like, yes, that is his debit card.

00:53:38.000 You know, they, like, detained him for a little while, and then finally they let him go.

00:53:40.000 So he's suing Barneys now for racial profiling.

00:53:43.000 So we'll see how that case plays out.

00:53:45.000 But, you know, aside from the racial profiling component of that story, I was just shocked that, I think he's 19, that a 19-year-old would save up multiple paychecks, by the way, to buy a $350 belt.

00:54:00.000 And it goes against everything I believe.

00:54:02.000 I hate that kind of materialism.

00:54:04.000 And he's a victim here, so I'm not trying to criticize him.

00:54:07.000 It's more of a societal thing where we all want to show off our new shiny handbag. 1.00

00:54:13.000 And it's fucking bullshit. 1.00

00:54:14.000 I hate when women fall for that crap. 1.00

00:54:17.000 When they work multiple months... 1.00

00:54:20.000 Just to afford, like, a $2,500 handbag.

00:54:22.000 And it's like, who are you trying to prove?

00:54:24.000 Like, what are you trying to prove?

00:54:25.000 And who are you trying to prove it to?

00:54:27.000 You're trying to show off to other women, right? 0.99

00:54:29.000 Which, by the way, if you're, like, a real woman, I think that you shouldn't get jealous by that kind of crap. 0.99

00:54:33.000 You know? 0.99

00:54:34.000 If you're a real woman, whoa, you said it like a real man. 0.99

00:54:37.000 Very masculine, like... 0.58

00:54:39.000 No, I have this...

00:54:41.000 As I get older, I mean, I'm getting obsessed with a person's character. 0.97

00:54:48.000 And I care less and less about the bullshit that doesn't matter. 0.96

00:54:52.000 So when I was younger, I got brainwashed into thinking, hey, you know what? 0.98

00:54:56.000 You need to make sure that you marry a guy who's really established in his career because you want to make sure he can take care of you. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Fuck that. 1.00

00:55:04.000 I want to take care of myself. 1.00

00:55:05.000 I don't need a guy to take care of me.

00:55:07.000 And that's not to say that I don't want a man in my life.

00:55:09.000 I definitely do.

00:55:10.000 I want a partner in my life.

00:55:12.000 And I want it to be like a real partnership where we help each other out.

00:55:15.000 But at the same time, like, this obsession with materialism makes me sick to my stomach.

00:55:19.000 It's distracting, and it makes people feel that if they can't afford certain things, then they're not good enough, that they're not worthy.

00:55:26.000 If they don't have the money to start at Barney's, then they're less than.

00:55:30.000 Well, I definitely think you're right from a sociological aspect.

00:55:34.000 I feel like the whole desire is fruitless and silly and weird, and it exists more with people that can't have it and want it very badly.

00:55:43.000 But there's a lot of people that are rich that just go shopping every day, but the hole never gets filled.

00:55:48.000 Yeah.

00:55:49.000 It's never like the big rush that you get. 0.96

00:55:51.000 At least if you're poor and you buy a $2,000 watch, you're like, holy shit, and you look at it and I can't believe I got it. 0.98

00:55:57.000 Woo! 0.99

00:55:57.000 But if you're really wealthy, if you're some billionaire character... 0.99

00:56:00.000 It's nothing to you.

00:56:01.000 It's nothing.

00:56:01.000 It doesn't even register.

00:56:02.000 It's like this dull thumping on your helmet because it never really gets to skin.

00:56:06.000 I just...

00:56:06.000 I don't like...

00:56:07.000 Making people feel like they're worthless because they can't afford certain things.

00:56:12.000 Isn't that them?

00:56:12.000 I mean, who makes them feel like that?

00:56:14.000 Isn't it on them?

00:56:16.000 It's in pop culture.

00:56:17.000 I mean, listen to pop culture.

00:56:19.000 Listen to all the rap songs and all the...

00:56:20.000 Oh, you know, I got my new Cadillac or whatever.

00:56:24.000 New Cadillac?

00:56:25.000 You're hilarious.

00:56:26.000 Whatever it is.

00:56:27.000 I don't think they brag about that.

00:56:30.000 It's a good car, don't get me wrong.

00:56:32.000 Whatever, whatever.

00:56:33.000 I got my Maybach, right? 1.00

00:56:34.000 They rap about that shit. 1.00

00:56:36.000 Who cares about your Maybach? 1.00

00:56:37.000 I don't know why people are so obsessed with that.

00:56:40.000 And then these young kids think, oh my god, I got to work really hard for that Maybach, which is why so many people get involved in the financial sector and they sell their souls because they just want to be rich. 0.98

00:56:50.000 And we need people who want to be teachers.

00:56:52.000 Something.

00:56:53.000 You know, albeit most of them get screwed over with really, really crappy salaries and we should definitely pay our teachers better.

00:57:00.000 But people don't gravitate toward jobs that actually help the community because they're so obsessed with making money.

00:57:07.000 And I hate seeing our brightest students go toward the financial sector instead of, you know, focusing on jobs that do help the community, whether it's, you know, in fields that Lead to technological innovation or to medical innovation.

00:57:21.000 And of course, doctors make a lot of money, but a lot of scientists that do some serious research that really benefits society don't make a lot of money.

00:57:29.000 It's true.

00:57:30.000 And so I just hate the incentive structure that we have these days and this emphasis on always having the newest, most expensive item available.

00:57:40.000 It's definitely ridiculous.

00:57:41.000 But as a person trying, making an attempt to look at it objectively, if I was like an alien species coming down to observe Earth, I would say they're in a mad scramble to create the next technological marvel. 0.51

00:57:52.000 They're in a mad scramble to create the new internet, the next thing.

00:57:57.000 And they're going to go from that to the next thing.

00:57:58.000 They're transforming themselves.

00:57:59.000 Essentially, it's a long-term...

00:58:01.000 Cocoon that turns a caterpillar into a butterfly.

00:58:05.000 It's just taking a few hundred years.

00:58:06.000 But technologically, there's some sort of a symbiotic relationship that we have with technology, and that's fueled by materialism.

00:58:13.000 This materialism drive, it ensures that people consistently buy the newest things, innovate, and constantly trying to impress with the latest.

00:58:23.000 Sociologically, I agree with you 100%.

00:58:24.000 But I think that there's probably something more going on that we're just not aware of because we're trapped in the middle of the hurricane of it all.

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 I think you make a really good point about gadgets and technology. 0.99

00:58:36.000 I guess what I'm more focused on is just the designer bullshit that people buy into. 0.98

00:58:41.000 That kind of stuff really frustrates me. 0.98

00:58:42.000 I just think it's a sideshoot of the same issue.

00:58:44.000 The money thing, too.

00:58:46.000 Think about that.

00:58:47.000 This desire to pursue massive amounts of money.

00:58:50.000 What is that all really doing?

00:58:52.000 I mean, if it's all just a pool of money and everybody's trying to keep it moving and keep it active, what does it really do?

00:58:59.000 Well, it buys things.

00:59:00.000 And if it's buying things, someone's making things.

00:59:02.000 If someone's making things, they're going to keep improving those things because everybody wants the newest thing.

00:59:05.000 It's basically the same engine, this innovation engine that's pushing forward.

00:59:10.000 And we're all trapped up in it, calling it culture and calling it all these other different things.

00:59:15.000 But what it really is is a mad scramble to make new technology.

00:59:20.000 So what's your guilty pleasure?

00:59:22.000 What do you like to splurge on?

00:59:24.000 Pool cues.

00:59:26.000 Really?

00:59:26.000 Yeah.

00:59:27.000 Does that get expensive?

00:59:28.000 Yeah, they get expensive.

00:59:29.000 What?

00:59:32.000 There's an art form to making pool cues. 0.88

00:59:35.000 Believe it or not.

00:59:36.000 And I play a lot of pool.

00:59:37.000 Okay.

00:59:38.000 And I used to play, I was obsessed.

00:59:40.000 I used to play eight, ten hours a day when I lived in New York.

00:59:42.000 What?

00:59:43.000 Yeah, when my manager was telling me that it was affecting my career.

00:59:47.000 Because I was paying more attention to playing pool than I was to comedy.

00:59:50.000 Yeah, I was completely obsessed.

00:59:53.000 But there's not that many pool cue manufacturers, makers, but the artisans, the real handmade ones.

01:00:00.000 There's a guy named Zambotti, Barry Zambotti, who's world famous.

01:00:05.000 His dad was Gus Zambotti.

01:00:06.000 He's one of the original pool cue makers.

01:00:08.000 That name has a lot of weight to it.

01:00:11.000 And these cues are like this artistic, functional art that you could play pool with, but they're also really beautiful.

01:00:17.000 I'm fascinated by them.

01:00:18.000 My friend Eric has a company called Sugartree, and he makes these beautiful cues all based on woods that are really exotic and strange burls and weird figure in the wood, and he's just obsessed with wood.

01:00:33.000 When you buy one of his cues or you play with it, you could literally see the passion that it took that this guy made, this guy who's obsessed with wood.

01:00:42.000 He's obsessed with different grains and tonal qualities and aging them.

01:00:47.000 It's this real artistic expression.

01:00:50.000 It's a functional piece of art.

01:00:52.000 I'm obsessed with them.

01:00:54.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:00:55.000 That's very obscure.

01:00:57.000 I've never heard anyone talk about pool cues.

01:01:00.000 I have a big cabinet full of them.

01:01:02.000 That's my guilty pleasure.

01:01:04.000 I just love to play pool. 1.00

01:01:06.000 It's a stupid thing to do. 1.00

01:01:07.000 It doesn't matter whether the ball goes in the hole. 1.00

01:01:10.000 But it does matter.

01:01:11.000 Everything matters.

01:01:12.000 If that's what you find pleasurable and it helps you blow off steam or whatever...

01:01:17.000 Go for it.

01:01:18.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:01:19.000 I think there's a microcosm to life in it.

01:01:22.000 I think there's a thing about pool...

01:01:24.000 See, these are handcrafted pool cues.

01:01:27.000 So how much do these cost?

01:01:29.000 Am I allowed to ask you?

01:01:29.000 Yeah, some of them cost several thousand dollars.

01:01:32.000 Wow.

01:01:33.000 Those ones you're looking at, those are probably two or three thousand at least.

01:01:36.000 That's really pretty.

01:01:37.000 Yeah, and they get real intricate.

01:01:40.000 There's different ways they splice them together.

01:01:42.000 You see those things at the end.

01:01:45.000 Those little things inside of them are little inlays.

01:01:48.000 As you get further out, those are different pieces of wood that are spliced in together.

01:01:52.000 That's insane.

01:01:53.000 Cut and glued in place and then spun on a lathe.

01:01:55.000 They're exotic woods.

01:01:57.000 That's ebony.

01:01:58.000 You can see all these different inlays.

01:02:01.000 Some of them are probably made out of ivory and Silver.

01:02:06.000 It used to be legal to buy ivory to make pool cues with.

01:02:11.000 They used to make the balls out of ivory. 1.00

01:02:13.000 And then people realized what a piece of shit you have to be to kill an elephant. 1.00

01:02:16.000 So they cut that off. 1.00

01:02:17.000 But there's so much ivory left over.

01:02:20.000 It's really kind of sad.

01:02:21.000 There's so much left over from when they were just slaughtering elephants before they started regulating it that you can get ivory to make inlays and stuff in pool cues.

01:02:30.000 It's everywhere.

01:02:31.000 So it becomes like a real issue, like a moral issue. 0.99

01:02:34.000 You have to think like, wow, is that kind of fucked up? 0.97

01:02:36.000 But then it's like, well, what are they going to do with the animals that have been dead since 1970 and they've had these tusks? 0.99

01:02:42.000 Are you just going to let them go to waste?

01:02:44.000 Or is it better to put them in a museum where people can look at them?

01:02:48.000 It's kind of an interesting moral dilemma.

01:02:50.000 But my friend Eric uses this fossilized mastodon bone that he got.

01:02:58.000 He uses 10,000-year-old fossilized walrus ivory that came from...

01:03:03.000 How does he even get his hands on that?

01:03:06.000 That's insane.

01:03:06.000 His sister's an archaeologist.

01:03:08.000 Wow.

01:03:09.000 That's fascinating.

01:03:11.000 Yeah, I think it's his sister.

01:03:13.000 But yeah, he's really into...

01:03:15.000 He doesn't use that many inlays.

01:03:19.000 His is all just about the wood, the quality of the wood.

01:03:22.000 I like that.

01:03:23.000 I like that.

01:03:23.000 That's really interesting.

01:03:24.000 I would have never guessed that they could get that expensive.

01:03:27.000 Oh, they get really expensive.

01:03:29.000 The old ones, there's a man named Balabushka who lived in the 1960s and 1970s, I think he made Cues.

01:03:37.000 And in the movie The Color of Money, Paul Newman gave Tom Cruise a Balabushka.

01:03:42.000 And just by saying that name...

01:03:45.000 That those queues started being worth $25,000, $30,000.

01:03:49.000 Because there's a finite number of them.

01:03:50.000 There's a fact, it's probably like the queue that has the most forgeries.

01:03:54.000 It's like Zambody and Balabushka are the two. 1.00

01:03:57.000 A lot of fakes.

01:03:58.000 A lot of people like, you know, they'll just knock it off and pretend it's one of them because you could sell it for $25,000.

01:04:02.000 Right.

01:04:04.000 Your guilty pleasure is much better than mine.

01:04:06.000 Mine is just food.

01:04:07.000 Food?

01:04:08.000 I can't really think of an object that I like to spend a lot of money on.

01:04:13.000 I just like to spend a lot of money on a good experience.

01:04:16.000 If I'm going to travel or if I'm going to eat at a nice restaurant, I'm going to go all out and not feel bad about it.

01:04:23.000 But that's pretty much it.

01:04:24.000 That just sounds like life.

01:04:26.000 I know.

01:04:26.000 That's not a guilty pleasure.

01:04:27.000 I know, I guess.

01:04:29.000 I'm trying to think.

01:04:30.000 I'm a huge bargain shopper.

01:04:33.000 I don't really buy anything at full price.

01:04:36.000 I'm not really into that.

01:04:37.000 This is interesting.

01:04:38.000 Is this because of the way your responsibility that you feel for looking at the world and seeing how fucked up things are, that you feel bad spending a couple hundred bucks on a nice meal? 0.73

01:04:48.000 Is that what it is? 0.99

01:04:50.000 It becomes a guilty pleasure because you're like, fuck it, I'm just going to do it. 1.00

01:04:53.000 But normally... 1.00

01:04:54.000 Yeah, maybe.

01:04:55.000 Maybe.

01:04:55.000 I think that there's something subconsciously that makes me feel guilty about it, but I can't really put my finger on it.

01:05:01.000 I think it's because I know how hard I work, and seeing all that money go toward one experience or one meal makes me feel a little bad.

01:05:09.000 But I actually...

01:05:11.000 What I like to do is if I'm going to go out and I'm going to spend some serious money, I make sure that I take people with me and I spend the money on them as well.

01:05:19.000 Because then I feel like I'm doing something good for my friends.

01:05:22.000 And I read this study about how the happiest people We'll actually spend money on others.

01:05:28.000 And it's totally true.

01:05:29.000 You feel really good when you take care of other people.

01:05:32.000 So, you know, I usually do that.

01:05:34.000 That's not my guilty pleasure.

01:05:36.000 That's the one thing that I will splurge on and I won't feel guilty about it.

01:05:39.000 I'll feel really good about it.

01:05:40.000 And then I hope, you know, one day when my friends are in the mood, like, they'll take me out and they'll do the same thing.

01:05:46.000 Hopefully one day.

01:05:47.000 You're waiting, right?

01:05:47.000 Yeah.

01:05:49.000 My friends, I love my friends.

01:05:50.000 I'm in a really, as someone in my age group, I'm in a really great place financially because I lived at home for a long time.

01:05:59.000 I saved money.

01:06:00.000 I was with someone that I was going to buy a house with.

01:06:03.000 That didn't work out.

01:06:04.000 So now I just have money that I'm not going to put toward a house and I can do other things with it.

01:06:10.000 So I like to treat my friends to things once in a while.

01:06:13.000 You don't have to justify it.

01:06:14.000 Yeah.

01:06:14.000 But it seems like a part of you because you're such a conscious and aware person realizes that you're in this rare circumstance.

01:06:21.000 Yeah.

01:06:21.000 So it feels like a guilty pleasure.

01:06:23.000 I feel...

01:06:24.000 I don't know if it's guilt, but I feel bad about a lot of things because...

01:06:28.000 Do you have white guilt?

01:06:29.000 No, I don't have...

01:06:30.000 White guilt is something I don't have, especially because...

01:06:32.000 And by the way, I love that accusation that we get from our audience time to time. 1.00

01:06:36.000 All the fucking time! 0.99

01:06:37.000 And it's so funny because, like, I'm Armenian. 0.99

01:06:40.000 Like, both my parents came from Armenia.

01:06:43.000 So they didn't have...

01:06:44.000 Like, my ancestors didn't have slaves.

01:06:46.000 Like, they...

01:06:47.000 Are you trying to tell me you're not white? 0.96

01:06:49.000 I'm white, but I'm not American.

01:06:52.000 I am American!

01:06:53.000 Okay, this is not sounding good.

01:06:55.000 But to say that I have white guilt would imply that I have ancestry that did hideous things to black people, which is why I now want to raise awareness about issues of racism.

01:07:07.000 And that's not true.

01:07:08.000 I want to raise awareness about that because I want genuine equality.

01:07:13.000 You see cases where racial profiling does exist.

01:07:16.000 No doubt.

01:07:17.000 And you want to raise awareness about that because you want society to progress.

01:07:22.000 You don't want to pretend as though these societal ills don't exist.

01:07:25.000 They do exist.

01:07:26.000 But at the same time, you don't want to demonize people either.

01:07:29.000 You don't want to make blanket statements about all white people. 0.85

01:07:31.000 That's insane. 0.99

01:07:32.000 Yeah, I've heard some pretty ridiculous blanket statements. 0.66

01:07:36.000 But what's really important is that the idea of racism should be eventually, it shouldn't exist anymore.

01:07:45.000 One day, it should come a time where that has been ironed out of the human culture, where we've beaten it down. 0.84

01:07:51.000 It seems like if you go back to a few thousand years ago when they were burning people at the stake for various beliefs, we've managed to get past that.

01:07:59.000 We've managed to get past killing neighbors, you know, rival countries that were like a block away from each other in Europe.

01:08:05.000 We managed to get past all that. 0.99

01:08:07.000 I wonder if one day we're going to get to a point where we don't give a fuck when anybody's racist. 0.91

01:08:12.000 I wonder if there's going to be some economic evenness where it'll eventually all smooth out where it won't matter. 0.92

01:08:19.000 I wonder the same thing.

01:08:20.000 I'm not as optimistic about it, though, to be honest.

01:08:23.000 I'm pretty optimistic.

01:08:24.000 You are?

01:08:25.000 Yeah, I didn't used to be, but as time's gone on, the Internet is what makes me optimistic.

01:08:30.000 When I see, like, justice and the voice of the Internet, it seems to be a very ethical, moral voice.

01:08:36.000 What do you think about some of the vigilante justice that you see online?

01:08:40.000 Like in the case of the Steubenville rape case and how Anonymous kind of rallied behind that victim?

01:08:47.000 I thought that was really inspiring.

01:08:49.000 It's important.

01:08:50.000 It's huge.

01:08:51.000 That stuff has to happen.

01:08:52.000 It has to happen.

01:08:53.000 You can't let people do that.

01:08:54.000 Because that could be your daughter, that could be your friend, that could be your mom, that could be anybody.

01:08:58.000 You can't let that happen. 0.99

01:09:00.000 And they can't let that fucking happen either. 0.98

01:09:02.000 The fact that they let that happen, you've got to clean that whole place out. 0.99

01:09:05.000 That's a disaster.

01:09:06.000 That is a disaster.

01:09:07.000 Anybody who's involved in that, what did you do? 0.99

01:09:09.000 What the fuck did you do? 1.00

01:09:11.000 You just opened the door for this kind of shit to be swept under the rug by future generations who find out about this as well. 1.00

01:09:17.000 When there's a gross injustice and it doesn't get rectified, there's this weird thing that happens where it can spawn more gross injustices. 0.99

01:09:27.000 Yeah, I mean, it sets a precedent.

01:09:28.000 And if one person can get away with doing that type of, you know, act or behaving in a certain way, then other people will think, like, well, I can do that.

01:09:38.000 I can get away with that.

01:09:39.000 And, you know, in the case of the Steubenville rape case, I was actually really shocked at how many people bullied the girl after she was raped.

01:09:51.000 And you see more and more stories like that popping up all over the place.

01:09:54.000 I think it's a human nature issue with a lot of young kids that have not been, not only have not been raised correctly, but I think there's a lot of people that are just letting their kids raise themselves and they're not even having conversations with them.

01:10:06.000 And they're growing up with animal instincts.

01:10:08.000 And animal instincts are to go after injured animals.

01:10:11.000 There's a weird thing.

01:10:13.000 It's scary stuff.

01:10:14.000 It's a terrifying thing, especially when the injured animal is claiming that the alpha, the social alphas, have done this thing to them.

01:10:22.000 And then the social alphas are saying they didn't do it.

01:10:24.000 And then there's this weird sort of an appeasement thing going on where people are trying to gain the favor. 0.99

01:10:29.000 Of the alphas by shitting on the victim. 0.98

01:10:32.000 It's terrifying stuff. 0.99

01:10:34.000 It's the worst aspects of humankind is this weird thing that we can have when we gang up, you know?

01:10:39.000 And the parents of the victim, I give them all the credit in the world because I'm going to be completely honest.

01:10:44.000 If I were in that position, I don't know if I would be able to prevent myself from doing something that would lead me to getting prosecuted and thrown in jail.

01:10:55.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:10:58.000 Something happens to men that get together, and if a bunch of idiot men get together, they think that that's something that they can do. 1.00

01:11:06.000 And it's a... 1.00

01:11:08.000 And in the case of Steubenville, they're boys.

01:11:10.000 They're teenagers, and they think they can get away with it.

01:11:13.000 Well, it's just men, period. 0.97

01:11:14.000 I mean, young men, old men. 0.98

01:11:16.000 There's a man thing that can happen if there's too many dummies, and they get together, and they start thinking that they're making sense, or that they should just fucking do this. 0.98

01:11:25.000 That's where gang murders take place, and gang beatings. 0.96

01:11:30.000 I'm sure there's a similar sort of group mentality that happens with women, but it doesn't seem to turn into as much of a victimization thing.

01:11:38.000 It can happen.

01:11:39.000 I've heard of groups of women beating up other women. 1.00

01:11:41.000 I've heard of that. 1.00

01:11:42.000 If a girl fucks some girl's husband or something like that and she gets her friends and they all beat the shit out of the girl. 1.00

01:11:47.000 I've heard of that kind of stuff happening. 1.00

01:11:49.000 Scary stuff. 0.99

01:11:50.000 I've heard of stories of women raping men. 1.00

01:11:56.000 Terrible. 0.95

01:11:57.000 We were talking about this on the podcast yesterday, the problem with male rights organizations.

01:12:02.000 Oh, you guys must have gotten some serious hate for that.

01:12:04.000 No, no, no. 0.97

01:12:05.000 Because my point is always that, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of dudes who get fucked over when it comes to divorce laws. 0.95

01:12:11.000 The problem is when male rights advocates get disingenuous, like they were talking about rape issues. 0.99

01:12:17.000 They were saying the number one group that gets raped in this country is men.

01:12:22.000 In prison. 0.99

01:12:23.000 The problem with that is, of course, that men are raping those men. 1.00

01:12:26.000 It's more proof that men are cunts. 1.00

01:12:29.000 Men are raping men. 1.00

01:12:30.000 It's a stupid argument. 1.00

01:12:32.000 That's the worst thing you should ever say. 1.00

01:12:35.000 You're just saying that we're just rapers. 0.99

01:12:37.000 We rape each other. 1.00

01:12:38.000 We don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:12:39.000 We'll rape anybody. 1.00

01:12:40.000 That doesn't mean that men are victims.

01:12:42.000 If men are victims from men, how does that support the point that that's the real issue?

01:12:46.000 That's actually a really good point.

01:12:47.000 That's a really good point. 0.99

01:12:47.000 Well, it's a dumb point. 0.99

01:12:48.000 It's a disingenuous thing that they're saying. 0.99

01:12:51.000 Guys aren't really wandering around life worried about getting raped.

01:12:54.000 They worry about it if they get imprisoned.

01:12:56.000 I just worry that, you know, the men's rights movement is a response to, like, radical feminism.

01:13:02.000 And I have a lot of issues with radical feminism because when you pretend as though women are always the ones that get screwed over and men don't deal with certain double standards and certain issues, then you're being disingenuous.

01:13:14.000 You know, you're doing a disservice to your own movement.

01:13:17.000 I mean, there are some serious issues with the way women are perceived in media, for instance. 0.96

01:13:26.000 Very different from how you're perceived in the media.

01:13:29.000 You know, the comments that you will get usually will question the legitimacy or accuracy of something that you've said.

01:13:36.000 The comments that I get don't necessarily criticize the legitimacy of what I'm saying.

01:13:40.000 Of course I get comments like that as well.

01:13:42.000 But how often do you get comments about like, oh, you know, I want Anna to sit on my face or I want Joe to sit on my face.

01:13:49.000 I get that.

01:13:50.000 I get that from dudes.

01:13:51.000 Oh, all the time?

01:13:52.000 Sometimes.

01:13:52.000 Oh, okay.

01:13:52.000 Once a month.

01:13:53.000 I stand corrected then.

01:13:55.000 Once a month. 1.00

01:13:56.000 Some gay bear wants me to stick it in their mouth or something. 1.00

01:13:59.000 Oh wow, okay. 1.00

01:14:00.000 That happens.

01:14:01.000 It does happen.

01:14:02.000 It's not as much though, I'm sure.

01:14:04.000 I wouldn't even pretend.

01:14:05.000 I think that it's much more courageous. 0.99

01:14:07.000 I don't want to sound like I'm kissing your ass, but it's much more courageous for a woman to do what you do than a man to do what you do. 0.99

01:14:12.000 For a man to do what you do is like... 1.00

01:14:14.000 Men with opinions are as common as birds that shit on cars. 1.00

01:14:19.000 They're everywhere. 1.00

01:14:20.000 Everywhere you look, a man has an opinion.

01:14:22.000 But women with an opinion that go public and have this very strong stance they take on things and expect to be taken seriously... 1.00

01:14:30.000 It's a lot like female stand-up comedians because female stand-up comedians, they're so limited in topics because men don't want to hear you talk about politics. 1.00

01:14:38.000 Men don't want to hear women talk about certain things. 0.89

01:14:42.000 Anything where you're telling people how to live their lives, men don't want to hear that from women. 1.00

01:14:46.000 It's just a giant group of men just shut you off.

01:14:49.000 It's much harder.

01:14:50.000 I think that younger generations are becoming way more open to that.

01:14:54.000 We have a really young audience and for the most part, I think that they're open to me talking about politics.

01:15:00.000 Like I said, I don't get to do that as often as I would like on the show because that's not my role on the show.

01:15:05.000 But there is a huge chunk of our audience that's very open-minded toward that.

01:15:10.000 However, there's also a chunk of the audience, and I'm just going based on what I've read on YouTube.

01:15:15.000 So there's a huge silent part of our audience that I never get to hear from.

01:15:19.000 But there is also a portion that...

01:15:22.000 Just immediately sees me and thinks, oh, she's a young, whatever, relatively good looking. 0.97

01:15:29.000 And so they immediately see a correlation there with moronic behavior. 0.98

01:15:34.000 Like, oh, she's attractive. 1.00

01:15:35.000 She must be really dumb. 1.00

01:15:36.000 Well, you've had a free ride. 1.00

01:15:37.000 That's what they think.

01:15:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:39.000 Willy Wonka's golden ticket.

01:15:40.000 You're pretty.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:42.000 So I'll get comments asking what kind of sexual favors I gave my male colleagues to get to the position that I'm in.

01:15:49.000 How rude.

01:15:50.000 And it's so degrading because obviously none of that has ever happened.

01:15:54.000 But to belittle the hard work that I've put into my career, really, really...

01:16:01.000 It grinds my ears.

01:16:02.000 Okay, but what you're doing right now is you're feeding the trolls. 1.00

01:16:05.000 I'm feeding the fucking trolls. 1.00

01:16:05.000 Right now, you just fed the shit out of the trolls. 1.00

01:16:07.000 I know, they loved it. 1.00

01:16:08.000 You just had a Thanksgiving troll dinner.

01:16:10.000 It's true, it's true. 1.00

01:16:10.000 Because you brought in all the comments of you having sex with your boss in order to get your job. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Everything, you said it all. 0.97

01:16:17.000 Yeah.

01:16:17.000 And how offended you were of that.

01:16:18.000 They win.

01:16:19.000 They just rang a troll bell.

01:16:20.000 I know, I know.

01:16:21.000 But to be absolutely honest, I completely stopped reading comments.

01:16:25.000 So they can go ahead and write them as much as they want.

01:16:27.000 I'm not going to read them. 1.00

01:16:28.000 You just fucked up right there, sister. 1.00

01:16:30.000 You just opened up the gates of hell. 1.00

01:16:31.000 Do your thing, boys.

01:16:32.000 No!

01:16:33.000 Don't do it!

01:16:34.000 Be kind, boys and girls.

01:16:37.000 Everyone be kind.

01:16:38.000 Yeah, there's a real problem with writing things down online and not having any social cues.

01:16:43.000 Not like looking at you and say, you know, Anna, I watched your thing on science and I just want you to know that your grasp of physics is a bit off. 0.93

01:16:53.000 And you would go, oh, I don't know shit about science. 0.98

01:16:55.000 Then you'd laugh. 0.99

01:16:56.000 Yeah.

01:16:56.000 Ha ha ha ha.

01:16:57.000 You'd both laugh together.

01:16:58.000 And that would be it. 1.00

01:16:59.000 Meanwhile, that same guy on YouTube, who's a fucking dumb bitch, doesn't know shit about science. 1.00

01:17:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:17:03.000 Because he isn't in front of you. 1.00

01:17:05.000 He's not talking to you.

01:17:06.000 Totally.

01:17:06.000 Again, it goes back to the whole anonymity thing.

01:17:09.000 The thing that I actually worry about the most isn't even, you know, how my feelings are going to get hurt.

01:17:15.000 Because who cares?

01:17:16.000 Like, I'm a public figure.

01:17:17.000 I need to have thicker skin and it shouldn't bother me.

01:17:20.000 I worry about, like...

01:17:23.000 If I meet someone I'm interested in and I'm dating him and then all of a sudden he decides...

01:17:28.000 First of all, if I meet someone I'm interested in and I tell him what I do, he's going to Google me.

01:17:32.000 Like, that's the world we live in at this point, right? 0.99

01:17:35.000 He's going to Google me and he's going to read the hideous shit that people say about me. 0.99

01:17:39.000 And then is that going to influence his opinion of me? 0.99

01:17:42.000 Like, I worry about that kind of stuff more than...

01:17:44.000 That's hilarious.

01:17:45.000 Do you really?

01:17:46.000 I do!

01:17:47.000 I mean, there...

01:17:49.000 That would be the last thing that I would worry about.

01:17:51.000 That's the very last thing that I would worry about is meeting someone and having them be influenced by a Google search.

01:17:56.000 That's literally the last thing that I would worry about.

01:17:59.000 I've been on the show since I was 20. And you want to know how many stupid things I've said on that show since I was 20? 0.99

01:18:05.000 Many. 1.00

01:18:05.000 That's normal. 1.00

01:18:06.000 It is normal.

01:18:08.000 Anybody that pretends it's not. 1.00

01:18:09.000 Again, you're just weeding out assholes. 1.00

01:18:11.000 Anybody that pretends it's not normal to say something stupid when you're 20 and you're on a show that permanently records it. 1.00

01:18:18.000 My God! 0.99

01:18:19.000 If I ever got permanently recorded when I was 20, I'd be in jail for hate crimes just for my words. 0.54

01:18:26.000 I was a retarded person when I was 20. I was too.

01:18:28.000 I think most people are fools when they're 20. Of course. 0.99

01:18:31.000 You're basically a child.

01:18:32.000 Definitely.

01:18:33.000 Definitely.

01:18:34.000 There's no way that you should be held accountable, responsible.

01:18:38.000 Anybody should ever stick it in your face, things that you did when you were much younger.

01:18:42.000 Yeah, I agree. 0.99

01:18:43.000 It's silly.

01:18:44.000 I agree, but it'll happen. 0.89

01:18:45.000 I'm sure it will.

01:18:45.000 Yeah, but you're just going to weed out a dummy that you don't want in your life anyway.

01:18:48.000 You're right.

01:18:48.000 That's a good way of looking at it.

01:18:49.000 It's the best way of looking at it.

01:18:51.000 You know who you are. 1.00

01:18:52.000 If that guy can't figure that out, fuck him. 1.00

01:18:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:55.000 Yeah!

01:18:55.000 Look at me.

01:18:56.000 I'm like the new Oprah for women.

01:18:58.000 I'm already the Oprah for men. 0.99

01:19:01.000 Giving out advice, teaching people how to fuck their relationships up royally. 0.99

01:19:07.000 Oh, God. 0.99

01:19:08.000 Do what you gotta do.

01:19:09.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 Yeah, it's gotta be hard being a chick, trying to meet a dude out there in the wonderful world, and also being a public figure.

01:19:18.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

01:19:19.000 That's what things get very weird.

01:19:20.000 It is.

01:19:20.000 But, whatever.

01:19:22.000 I think you're right. 0.99

01:19:23.000 You do weed out the assholes, and you can't take yourself too seriously. 0.99

01:19:28.000 Okay. 1.00

01:19:28.000 Well, you can't date a regular dude either. 1.00

01:19:30.000 You've got a real problem.

01:19:31.000 What do you mean?

01:19:33.000 You're a little on the smart side, let's be honest.

01:19:35.000 A little on the articulate side.

01:19:38.000 That's a little intimidating for guys.

01:19:40.000 And we're like, you know what?

01:19:41.000 I'm not going to get shut down by this one.

01:19:43.000 I'm just going to pass.

01:19:44.000 I'm not even going to try.

01:19:45.000 Do you get a lot of that where guys are going to be trying it?

01:19:47.000 No.

01:19:48.000 Really?

01:19:49.000 I don't...

01:19:51.000 I think a lot of dudes probably go, you know what, this is never going to happen.

01:19:53.000 Really?

01:19:54.000 And then they just stop talking to you as a result of that.

01:19:56.000 Yeah, some dudes will get intimidated, but that's good too, right? 0.99

01:19:58.000 That sucks. 1.00

01:19:59.000 Then you weed out pussies. 1.00

01:20:00.000 Does it suck? 1.00

01:20:01.000 You want those pussies to come at you? 1.00

01:20:02.000 No, no, I don't want those pussies. 1.00

01:20:03.000 I just, I don't want those pussies to exist. 1.00

01:20:05.000 Like, you have nothing to be shy or intimidated about. 1.00

01:20:09.000 Whatever.

01:20:11.000 Every person can teach you something new, right?

01:20:13.000 Every person that you date, yeah, they can teach you how you can get stalked now.

01:20:18.000 No, but I will say that when you said you can't date a regular person, I thought you have to date another public figure, which I'm not interested in.

01:20:25.000 That's not what I meant. 1.00

01:20:25.000 You have to date a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:20:27.000 You've got to date some dude who's really smart. 1.00

01:20:29.000 Definitely.

01:20:30.000 I'm definitely turned on by intelligence.

01:20:31.000 Too much work.

01:20:32.000 Chicks like you are too much work. 1.00

01:20:34.000 No, I'm not! 0.93

01:20:34.000 I'm just kidding. 0.93

01:20:35.000 I'm kidding.

01:20:35.000 Totally kidding.

01:20:36.000 That's just a rude thing to say.

01:20:38.000 I'm super laid back and, you know, low maintenance.

01:20:40.000 I actually am.

01:20:41.000 I'm not that bad.

01:20:42.000 I wouldn't think you were high maintenance, but I would think that a woman who's a public figure, a woman who's very articulate and intelligent and makes a living off of her opinions, that's intimidated for a lot of dudes. 1.00

01:20:57.000 Especially people that are not good at expressing themselves.

01:21:00.000 What is the big thing with relationships?

01:21:03.000 It's the weird sort of expression dance that you do with each other.

01:21:08.000 How does she express when she's angry?

01:21:11.000 How do you express when you're angry?

01:21:13.000 Who does it kindly?

01:21:15.000 Who's passive-aggressive?

01:21:17.000 Who's intelligent when it comes to arguments?

01:21:19.000 Dudes don't want to have an argument with you. 0.99

01:21:20.000 That's fucking rough action. 0.99

01:21:22.000 You argue on the internet. 0.99

01:21:23.000 I haven't had an argument with a guy in a while.

01:21:25.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:21:25.000 They're scared, bunch of bitches. 1.00

01:21:27.000 No, I wouldn't say that. 0.99

01:21:28.000 I haven't put myself out there that much, to be honest with you, so I don't have too much experience with that.

01:21:33.000 I was in a really long-term relationship, and then now I've just started dating.

01:21:38.000 That's where the 70s music comes in.

01:21:43.000 Now I started dating.

01:21:45.000 And then the dude at home hears this and goes...

01:21:50.000 No, don't say that.

01:21:51.000 Trust me.

01:21:51.000 He's crying.

01:21:52.000 No, he's not.

01:21:53.000 Yes, he is.

01:21:54.000 No, he's a good guy.

01:21:54.000 He's crying on the inside.

01:21:55.000 Trust me, they all do.

01:21:57.000 Me included.

01:21:58.000 We all cry on the inside.

01:22:00.000 Okay, go have fun.

01:22:02.000 I'm done with this relationship.

01:22:04.000 No.

01:22:05.000 Okay, okay.

01:22:06.000 Funny thing is, I'm 100% certain he's going to listen to this.

01:22:10.000 I'm sorry, dude. 0.99

01:22:12.000 We're just fucking around, man. 0.94

01:22:13.000 I know, I know. 1.00

01:22:14.000 Just fucking around. 0.98

01:22:14.000 But I will say, like, I live in, like, the gayest area of Los Angeles, which means it's, like, impossible to meet guys near me. 0.98

01:22:24.000 And you're right.

01:22:26.000 Like, I don't know what to...

01:22:27.000 I love that we're playing porn music right now. 0.67

01:22:30.000 Yeah. 0.87

01:22:30.000 That's Jamie. 0.87

01:22:31.000 Yeah.

01:22:32.000 I don't know.

01:22:33.000 I'm just having fun.

01:22:33.000 So you're having a problem in your neighborhood meeting guys?

01:22:36.000 Yeah. 0.77

01:22:36.000 Well, I live in a gay neighborhood. 0.77

01:22:38.000 Do you ever meet guys who pretend they're not gay? 1.00

01:22:40.000 Like, yeah, I'm just trying to pick up chicks. 1.00

01:22:41.000 Yes, I have. 0.99

01:22:43.000 But meanwhile, they're really gay and they just don't want to grab it. 1.00

01:22:45.000 Okay, so my best friend and I talk about this all the time. 0.98

01:22:49.000 I've been on a few dates with guys that I'm 100% certain are gay. 0.87

01:22:54.000 And it's like, why are you trying to ruin my life right now? 0.79

01:22:58.000 What do you think is going to happen?

01:22:59.000 You think I'm not going to figure it out and I'm going to end up dating you long term and then you're going to destroy my life. 1.00

01:23:05.000 No, you're gay. 1.00

01:23:06.000 I can totally tell. 0.98

01:23:07.000 How can you tell?

01:23:08.000 You can just tell by the things...

01:23:09.000 And I'm not...

01:23:10.000 Look, I'm not trying to push stereotypes, but when you're with a straight guy, you just know.

01:23:16.000 Like, there's certain body language that indicates or implies that he's, like, aroused or he's into you.

01:23:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:23:23.000 Like, physically into you.

01:23:25.000 When you're, like... 1.00

01:23:27.000 If I was a douchebag guy, the way the douchebag guy translation of that is, if you meet a girl and she's not turned on by you, she's a fucking lesbian. 1.00

01:23:36.000 No, I know. 1.00

01:23:36.000 Because you're saying that if he's not aroused by you, he's gotta be gay. 1.00

01:23:40.000 No, no, that's not... 0.98

01:23:40.000 It's the only way. 0.98

01:23:41.000 That is what it sounds like.

01:23:42.000 I know, I know.

01:23:43.000 That is what it sounds like.

01:23:44.000 That's not what I mean at all.

01:23:45.000 It's just, it's hard to explain unless you're sitting there on that date with me.

01:23:50.000 Is it like when you talk to a black guy on the phone, and even if he's super educated, you still know he's black? 1.00

01:23:55.000 You're terrible. 1.00

01:23:55.000 That's real. 1.00

01:23:56.000 That's some real shit. 1.00

01:23:57.000 I have talked to a lot of black guys on the phone where they were very articulate, very intelligent, very educated, but I knew they were black. 1.00

01:24:05.000 That's not a bad thing. 0.57

01:24:07.000 It's not bad to be black.

01:24:08.000 It's nothing wrong with it.

01:24:09.000 I don't know what that means.

01:24:10.000 You do.

01:24:11.000 How dare you? 1.00

01:24:12.000 How dare you bullshit me? 1.00

01:24:15.000 On a national internet program such as this, you know, I know, and everybody listens to this, including black people that might pretend to be offended. 1.00

01:24:22.000 You know what the fuck I'm saying? 0.99

01:24:23.000 Listen to me. 1.00

01:24:24.000 There's zero wrong with being black.

01:24:27.000 Absolutely nothing.

01:24:28.000 I am the least racist person you will ever meet.

01:24:31.000 I hope.

01:24:32.000 I have zero racism in me.

01:24:33.000 So I don't think it's possible to get any less racist.

01:24:36.000 However, I am a person that likes to look at reality.

01:24:39.000 I think it's interesting to find what people do and don't get offended at.

01:24:44.000 And telling someone they sound black is not a bad thing. 1.00

01:24:47.000 But people sound black. 0.55

01:24:49.000 Women and men. 0.66

01:24:50.000 I have talked to them on the phone and had wonderful, elaborate conversations that I truly enjoyed, but I knew I was talking to a black person.

01:24:57.000 But why?

01:24:58.000 Because of their voice?

01:24:59.000 No, the way they express themselves.

01:25:02.000 Interesting.

01:25:02.000 The way their language is used, the tonal quality, the way they speak.

01:25:09.000 There's a certain way that black people speak that's slightly different.

01:25:14.000 White people can speak like black people.

01:25:16.000 I have been confused that way. 0.92

01:25:17.000 Where I talked to a dude and he was a wigger and I thought I'm talking to a black guy. 1.00

01:25:21.000 It turned out that I was just talking to a white guy that really wishes he was black. 0.99

01:25:24.000 Super normal. 0.67

01:25:25.000 That happens a lot.

01:25:26.000 Nothing wrong with it.

01:25:27.000 That's happened with a Chinese guy.

01:25:28.000 That was a freak out.

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 I was talking to the dude on the phone and then I met him in person and I was like, oh, he's a Chinese dude. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Oh, the fuck? 1.00

01:25:35.000 I thought I was talking to a black guy. 1.00

01:25:37.000 It was weird.

01:25:37.000 Yeah, that is interesting.

01:25:39.000 Going back to the whole gay thing, because I want to kind of backpedal from what I said, because it was disastrous. 1.00

01:25:46.000 Look, I'm in a unique position because of where I live.

01:25:49.000 And also, I'm in Los Angeles, which means a lot of people, a lot of guys, take a lot of pride in the way they look, and they are almost proud of being overly feminine in some ways.

01:26:02.000 Like, they like the moisturizer and they like the fancy clothing.

01:26:06.000 And so then in that case, they used to be called metrosexuals.

01:26:09.000 I don't know what the politically correct term is now.

01:26:11.000 Is that bad?

01:26:12.000 Is metrosexual real bad? 0.54

01:26:13.000 I have no idea.

01:26:14.000 These terms are always changing, man.

01:26:15.000 Like, sometimes you think that it's a totally PC term and all of a sudden someone will, like, send you an angry email.

01:26:20.000 Like, how dare you refer to us as metrosexuals?

01:26:23.000 But, you know, so I could be absolutely wrong.

01:26:25.000 And by the way, I have been known at work for having terrible gaydar.

01:26:29.000 So maybe I am wrong.

01:26:30.000 Really?

01:26:30.000 Yeah.

01:26:31.000 But there's just...

01:26:32.000 It's freaking tough out there.

01:26:34.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:26:34.000 Dating sucks. 0.99

01:26:35.000 Listen, I see what's going on. 1.00

01:26:35.000 I'll spell it out for you. 1.00

01:26:36.000 You're a hot chick. 1.00

01:26:37.000 If dudes don't move, you say they got to be gay. 0.99

01:26:39.000 No, that's not what I'm saying. 0.97

01:26:41.000 That's not what I'm saying at all.

01:26:42.000 It's super simple.

01:26:43.000 You're probably correct, too.

01:26:44.000 And I'm not a super hot chick, so it doesn't matter.

01:26:46.000 Stop.

01:26:47.000 How dare you?

01:26:47.000 But that does happen.

01:26:49.000 There is a lot of gay dudes who try to pretend to be straight. 1.00

01:26:52.000 I think for society or for what have you, they just keep it together as long as they can and then the fucking wheels fly off. 1.00

01:26:58.000 Yep. 0.99

01:26:58.000 And there was a guy that I used to work out with at this gym. 0.99

01:27:04.000 And he would talk about girls. 0.99

01:27:07.000 And the best way I could describe it is if I was speaking to you, if you were French, and I was saying the correct words, but I had no idea what the fuck they meant. 0.98

01:27:17.000 If I'm like... 0.99

01:27:17.000 But obviously I don't know what the fuck I'm saying. 0.99

01:27:22.000 It's just off. 1.00

01:27:23.000 Yes, it reminds me of the 40-year-old virgin and how he was describing having sex.

01:27:28.000 Do you remember that scene?

01:27:29.000 I didn't see that movie.

01:27:30.000 Oh, it was so funny.

01:27:31.000 He was like, oh yeah, I remember when I touched her breasts and they felt like sandbags. 0.98

01:27:38.000 And it was just so obvious that he had never had sex before.

01:27:43.000 The guy that I was talking to just started talking about this interaction that he had with a woman in a nightclub and now this girl just came up to him and just started kissing him and making out with him and it was like the way he was saying it was like the worst like fake storytelling you could imagine it was he was like he was doing a sketch yeah yeah but he was a beautiful man like beautiful like big tall perfect bone structure just handsome and And he had this girlfriend that just always had this perplexed look at her face.

01:28:12.000 She just looked like an explosion just went off like 30 seconds ago. 0.99

01:28:16.000 And she was trying to figure out what the fuck happened. 0.99

01:28:19.000 That's how she would go everywhere. 0.99

01:28:22.000 She was batting way over her head with him. 0.98

01:28:25.000 He was at 10 and she was probably in the 6 or 7 range.

01:28:28.000 And she was a little on the overweight side. 0.99

01:28:30.000 It was a clear mismatch.

01:28:32.000 And it was just a gay guy who had this girlfriend. 0.85

01:28:35.000 But he was gay. 0.63

01:28:37.000 I can't believe I'm going to share this on the show. 0.98

01:28:39.000 My friends think it's so silly.

01:28:40.000 But I have something called the mediocre guy theory.

01:28:43.000 And the mediocre guy theory is, do not date a guy who's overly attractive.

01:28:48.000 You're just asking for trouble.

01:28:50.000 Because guys already have this crazy confidence, even if they're not the most attractive guy in the world, they're usually pretty confident. 1.00

01:29:02.000 Let me just point out, first of all, you're Armenian, and Armenian dudes are fucking savages. 1.00

01:29:07.000 In what way? 1.00

01:29:08.000 They're the most aggressive guys on the planet.

01:29:11.000 Armenian dudes.

01:29:12.000 We have a lot of Armenian fighters in the UFC. And they're fucking animals. 1.00

01:29:16.000 Yeah, I don't date Armenian guys. 1.00

01:29:18.000 Savages. 0.94

01:29:18.000 Those dudes are men. 0.94

01:29:20.000 Those are wild men with hairy chests who will punch you in the face. 1.00

01:29:23.000 They're fucking crazy. 1.00

01:29:25.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:29:27.000 Yes, yes.

01:29:28.000 Do you know how many people have asked me...

01:29:29.000 If you're from Glendale?

01:29:30.000 Yeah.

01:29:31.000 I've never lived in Glendale.

01:29:32.000 I've only been in Glendale like a few times.

01:29:34.000 I'm the most Americanized Armenian.

01:29:36.000 It would be nice to meet an Armenian guy who's as Americanized as I am, but most of them are very traditional, which means we're going to butt heads, and I just don't... 1.00

01:29:44.000 They're going to have to wear that gold chain, that cross.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, I don't play that game.

01:29:47.000 I don't play that game.

01:29:48.000 Wear the cross for Jesus. 0.77

01:29:49.000 Come on. 0.88

01:29:50.000 So your mediocre guy theory is...

01:29:52.000 Yeah, so don't go after a guy who's...

01:29:55.000 I'm extremely attractive because he's going to get it.

01:29:58.000 First of all, he's going to be constantly told that he's attractive.

01:30:00.000 He's going to constantly get attention from other women.

01:30:02.000 I don't want to play that game.

01:30:04.000 I just don't want to deal with that.

01:30:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:30:07.000 Wow, that's interesting.

01:30:08.000 Yeah, like what you just said right now about the guy who's out of her league, right?

01:30:11.000 Let's say, best case scenario, he's not gay and it's a straight couple or whatever.

01:30:17.000 Good day, trust me.

01:30:18.000 But you don't want to feel like the guy you're dating is prettier than you.

01:30:23.000 Wow.

01:30:24.000 You really would ever worry about that?

01:30:26.000 Would you really ever think that a guy would be prettier than that?

01:30:28.000 A man is as faithful as his opportunities.

01:30:33.000 That's a Chris Rock joke.

01:30:34.000 It's not a joke.

01:30:36.000 It might have been his joke, but it's actually true.

01:30:39.000 If a guy is really attractive and he's constantly getting bombed on, like women throwing themselves at him, then he's going to cheat on you.

01:30:47.000 There's no question.

01:30:48.000 So you're better off shooting for the middle.

01:30:53.000 Well, the middle looks-wise.

01:30:56.000 So you got a specific thing.

01:30:59.000 Looks are nice. 0.99

01:30:59.000 And by the way, I'm just talking bullshit. 0.99

01:31:02.000 I've dated really hot guys before. 0.99

01:31:04.000 I believe it.

01:31:05.000 And whatever.

01:31:06.000 But what matters to me most is the chemistry.

01:31:10.000 And I'm talking about intellectual chemistry.

01:31:13.000 Uh, physical chemistry.

01:31:15.000 Like, there's gotta be that connection.

01:31:17.000 Of course. 0.98

01:31:17.000 If that doesn't exist, then I don't give a shit how good you look. 0.98

01:31:20.000 Somehow or another, this has turned into the longest episode of the dating show ever. 0.98

01:31:23.000 I know!

01:31:24.000 Sorry about that.

01:31:25.000 No, those shows were great.

01:31:26.000 They don't do those anymore.

01:31:27.000 You never have dating shows now because of stalking issues, I think.

01:31:30.000 Mm-mm. 0.98

01:31:30.000 Remember they used to have the dating game and people would be wearing those weird suits with the fucking bell bottoms and they'd tell what they would do. 0.98

01:31:38.000 Bachelor number one, if I met you and I was on a beach looking for shells and you wanted to get my attention, what would you say to me? 0.98

01:31:46.000 You know, is that your clam that I just...

01:31:49.000 Yeah, those don't exist anymore.

01:31:52.000 No, I don't think they can.

01:31:54.000 I think there's too many legal issues.

01:31:56.000 Yeah, they were super cheesy anyway.

01:31:58.000 Do you find that you meet guys like inside your community and like dating like other reporters or journalists or people in that world?

01:32:09.000 Yeah I mean there have definitely been some people I've run into where I'm like oh my god you know He's super smart.

01:32:16.000 He's a good-looking guy.

01:32:18.000 We should probably go on a date. 0.98

01:32:20.000 Except he's gay. 0.94

01:32:21.000 No, that's not the case.

01:32:23.000 I feel weird dating someone that I work with or someone that I'm going to run into often with my career because I don't want to burn bridges.

01:32:32.000 It might end disastrously.

01:32:34.000 So I just don't want to do that.

01:32:35.000 And plus, on top of that, I'm more interested in dating someone who has a completely different career than mine because I want to learn something from someone I'm dating. 0.97

01:32:43.000 We're very lucky Brian Redman's not here right now because he would be fucking throwing himself at you. 0.93

01:32:48.000 The normal dude is here. 0.98

01:32:50.000 He'd be like, we're different.

01:32:52.000 He would, right?

01:32:53.000 I'm an comedian.

01:32:54.000 I'm an comedian.

01:32:55.000 We're totally different.

01:32:57.000 Do you worry at all that with the stuff that you're doing that there will be repercussions?

01:33:01.000 Do you ever think like when the Michael Hastings thing went down, did you guys freak out a little bit?

01:33:05.000 Of course.

01:33:06.000 What did you think happened there?

01:33:07.000 For folks who don't know, tell the story of what Michael Hastings did and then what happened to him.

01:33:12.000 Yeah, so Michael Hastings was one of the few real journalists left in the U.S. He was one of the few journalists who actually gave a shit about holding politicians accountable for their actions. 0.88

01:33:23.000 And he was so driven. 0.98

01:33:25.000 He was one of the most driven people that I've ever met in my entire life. 0.63

01:33:28.000 He made me feel like shit about my career on a regular basis because he was so inspiring and so... 0.57

01:33:35.000 Just hardworking and determined, you know? 0.97

01:33:38.000 So he broke the story about General Stanley McChrystal. 0.97

01:33:43.000 Basically, long story short, Stanley McChrystal was saying some crazy shit about Obama, basically criticizing him behind closed doors. 0.97

01:33:49.000 Yeah. 0.83

01:33:50.000 Michael Hastings wrote a Rolling Stone piece about it, and the Obama administration forced McChrystal to resign.

01:33:56.000 So that was a really big story.

01:33:58.000 Michael Hastings won awards for it, and that kind of put him on the map.

01:34:02.000 He wrote many great books, and he was just a great journalist.

01:34:07.000 But the most important thing to keep in mind is he was one of those people who was fearless when it came to holding the government accountable.

01:34:13.000 And you don't see that often.

01:34:15.000 Then all of a sudden, you know, in June of 2013, he gets into this really mysterious car accident at 4, I believe 4.20 in the morning, 4.30 in the morning, around then.

01:34:26.000 And he was speeding in this silver Mercedes and he crashed into a palm tree.

01:34:32.000 And the car exploded on impact and everyone was wondering whether or not this was...

01:34:49.000 I think?

01:34:55.000 All I do know is I worked closely with him at the Young Turks.

01:34:57.000 He was on our show often.

01:34:59.000 I co-hosted a few episodes with him.

01:35:01.000 And I remember sitting in the makeup chair getting ready to go on air when I found out that he had died in this car accident.

01:35:08.000 And I've never felt the way I felt in that moment.

01:35:11.000 It was like a ton of bricks had just fallen on me.

01:35:13.000 And I was just tearing up and I couldn't believe it.

01:35:16.000 And so I wanted to do an investigation.

01:35:18.000 We don't have the resources to do a full investigation into this.

01:35:22.000 But there were so many weird, crazy...

01:35:25.000 Aspects of it that didn't make sense.

01:35:26.000 Like his engine being tossed so far away from his car.

01:35:30.000 The fact that the car exploded.

01:35:31.000 I contacted Mercedes-Benz.

01:35:33.000 They refused to answer any questions.

01:35:35.000 And I asked them, I'm like, look, don't comment on the Michael Hastings story.

01:35:38.000 Comment on what happens in your crash tests.

01:35:41.000 Is this typical of a crash?

01:35:43.000 And they would not answer any questions.

01:35:46.000 I tracked down the one witness that saw the entire accident from beginning to end.

01:35:52.000 He was Mexican.

01:35:53.000 He only spoke Spanish.

01:35:54.000 And we got a translator and he told us exactly what he saw and he said that Michael Hastings was in fact speeding really, really fast.

01:36:01.000 But that doesn't really answer any questions either because some people are wondering whether or not the government can manipulate his car I don't know.

01:36:11.000 I've read stories where it's possible, but it's very, very difficult to do.

01:36:15.000 So again, I feel uncomfortable speculating.

01:36:17.000 But what I do know is his family, including his brother, have said that he was increasingly paranoid leading up to the accident.

01:36:26.000 He was unstable.

01:36:27.000 His brother was really concerned that he was, you know, abusing drugs, which is why he flew to Los Angeles to help him out.

01:36:34.000 His brother, I think, was the last person to see him prior to the accident.

01:36:38.000 At least that's what he's alleging.

01:36:40.000 And I, again, I don't know what happened.

01:36:43.000 But it did have severe ramifications for people who want to be investigative journalists.

01:36:49.000 Because if that fear does exist, if that is even a possibility, it's going to deter you from doing real investigative journalism. 0.97

01:36:58.000 It's going to deter you from holding the government accountable because you know that the NSA is watching every fucking move.

01:37:05.000 You know that if you're watching the wrong kind of porn or if you're doing something that's a little questionable according to societal morals or norms, then the government can find that and they can leak that to the public and they can destroy your reputation. 0.85

01:37:18.000 Do you as a journalist want to take that risk to do what a journalist is supposed to do?

01:37:24.000 And I think a lot of people out there are unwilling to do it and I don't blame them.

01:37:27.000 It's scary to know that the government can come after you if they wanted to.

01:37:32.000 That's also if this is what happened.

01:37:35.000 Yeah, and again...

01:37:36.000 I know, I know.

01:37:36.000 I appreciate that you're doing that.

01:37:38.000 I think that's really important because we really don't know what happened.

01:37:42.000 I looked at it when it first happened.

01:37:44.000 I was pretty freaked out, too, because I was like, wow.

01:37:46.000 And I thought about it for a minute, and I'm like, this guy was going after generals.

01:37:50.000 I mean, these are people who are professional killers.

01:37:53.000 They've been killing for the government for a long time. 0.90

01:37:55.000 They know how to do it really well.

01:37:56.000 They have friends.

01:37:57.000 They can pull favors. 1.00

01:37:59.000 And they can make some shit happen. 0.99

01:38:00.000 I mean, it is possible. 0.99

01:38:02.000 Did it happen?

01:38:03.000 It's also possible that the dude was doing drugs and he was going crazy from the trauma of this whole thing about thinking. 1.00

01:38:12.000 I mean, that might be just enough to get you to fucking kill yourself. 0.99

01:38:16.000 They might not have to do it. 0.99

01:38:17.000 They might have to just scare you and freak you out and get you to believe that they're watching every move you make and waiting for their time to lower the boom on you.

01:38:25.000 Yep.

01:38:25.000 And that's basically what I'm referring to.

01:38:27.000 That paranoia alone is crippling.

01:38:30.000 It was crippling for Michael Hastings.

01:38:32.000 And it's crippling for people that I work with that want to do the type of journalism that he did.

01:38:38.000 And that's why I fear for people like Glenn Greenwald.

01:38:41.000 Glenn Greenwald is I look up to him so much.

01:38:46.000 He's the one who broke the Edward Snowden story.

01:38:49.000 He's the one who's revealing things that Americans should know about.

01:38:53.000 What frustrates me is a lot of Americans feel that someone like Edward Snowden is a traitor.

01:38:57.000 He's not a traitor.

01:38:58.000 He's telling you about how your civil liberties are being violated.

01:39:02.000 This is the kind of stuff that should make people want to stand up.

01:39:04.000 Instead of having a discussion about what we should do to stop the government from spying on us, we're having ridiculous conversations about whether or not Edward Snowden can be considered a traitor or an American hero. 1.00

01:39:15.000 That is a stupid conversation. 1.00

01:39:17.000 Okay? 1.00

01:39:17.000 We know the information now. 1.00

01:39:19.000 We know what the government is doing.

01:39:20.000 The government is indiscriminately collecting our metadata and they are Holding this information for a period of time, and they can use it to intimidate you if you're a political activist or if you're a journalist.

01:39:33.000 That intimidation is what cripples our democratic process.

01:39:38.000 So I have a lot of problems with that, and I worry that there aren't going to be many journalists left that will do what Michael Hastings was willing to do.

01:39:47.000 No doubt.

01:39:48.000 And it was a huge price this guy had to pay.

01:39:50.000 I mean, he's living in Russia now, hiding, doing IT work, learning how to speak Russian.

01:39:55.000 Most likely, if he lives, he's going to be there for the rest of his life.

01:39:57.000 And what kind of crazy stress is he under?

01:40:00.000 Can you imagine?

01:40:01.000 He had a hot girlfriend and a cushy job in Hawaii.

01:40:03.000 He left all of that.

01:40:05.000 Yeah, it was a pretty bold move.

01:40:07.000 And the information that's come out has really changed the way people look at the government and how they're handling privacy, how they're handling this idea of the war on terror and what they're willing to do and not willing to do.

01:40:20.000 They're willing to violate everything.

01:40:22.000 They're willing to go against the very principles of privacy, like every principle of The idea that you're sending someone something, you have a password, you log in, they have a password, they log in.

01:40:33.000 You send them an email.

01:40:34.000 If someone doesn't get in there and breach it, you're thinking that what's going on here is a completely private conversation.

01:40:40.000 But no, the government gets to look at it. 0.97

01:40:42.000 Not only that, but some fucking employee that they kept going on and on about how he never graduated high school. 0.98

01:40:48.000 Remember that? 0.99

01:40:49.000 I know.

01:40:49.000 Remember they were shitting on him and trying to demean him by saying that he never graduated high school?

01:40:53.000 Then why did you give him access to our private information? 0.92

01:40:56.000 Why'd you hire him?

01:40:58.000 That's unbelievable.

01:40:59.000 Is that the best guy you could get?

01:41:00.000 A guy who didn't graduate high school?

01:41:01.000 That seems crazy.

01:41:02.000 And the worst part about it is, I mean, we have so many private contractors that have access to our private information.

01:41:07.000 It's fascinating.

01:41:08.000 Yeah.

01:41:08.000 It's a fascinating time.

01:41:10.000 And I think that we're moving closer and closer to some strange point in the future where The idea of privacy is a thing of the past.

01:41:19.000 It's non-existent.

01:41:20.000 I think that's going to happen.

01:41:21.000 I don't think you can avoid that.

01:41:23.000 I think that is, whether it's a decade from now or two or three or whatever it is, I think there's going to come a point in time where the boundaries between people and information no longer exist.

01:41:33.000 I feel like we're going to get to a point where we will just be desensitized to all private information.

01:41:40.000 What people worry about most is, let's say you're not a politician, you're just a political activist.

01:41:46.000 You might be worried that the government might use some information about you to intimidate you and cause you to not be politically active anymore.

01:41:53.000 So it could be something like nude pictures of yourself that you emailed or it could be the porn that you watch or whatever.

01:41:59.000 I feel like with the way things are going, eventually we're going to get to a point where all of our dirty laundry is just going to be out there and everyone's going to be like, oh, alright, whatever.

01:42:08.000 You know, because you're going to be forced to.

01:42:10.000 There's going to be so much crap out there about everyone that you're just going to have to deal with it. 0.94

01:42:14.000 Well, that's going to be the future, right? 0.82

01:42:16.000 If it's one generation from now or two generations, whatever it is, those people are going to have no privacy from birth to death.

01:42:23.000 I know. 0.94

01:42:23.000 We're willingly putting our crap out there as it is with social media. 0.94

01:42:28.000 Once again, I think it's a trend. 0.98

01:42:30.000 I think it's just like the technology trend.

01:42:32.000 I think we're moving in a certain direction, and there's no way you're going to stop it.

01:42:37.000 It's not like a cultural thing, like different types of marriages or different types of...

01:42:44.000 You know, tribal government.

01:42:47.000 It's not like that.

01:42:48.000 It's way bigger than that.

01:42:49.000 And it seems to have a momentum all of its own.

01:42:52.000 And the momentum of information is the ability to exchange it and share it gets quicker and easier.

01:42:58.000 It does.

01:42:58.000 Constantly through time.

01:42:59.000 It does.

01:43:00.000 So you have two kids.

01:43:03.000 How do you plan on talking to them about social media?

01:43:06.000 Because I always wonder about that.

01:43:08.000 There are so many parents who willingly put so much information about their babies online, which I find fascinating.

01:43:14.000 What kind of conversation do you think you're going to have with your kids when it comes to oversharing online?

01:43:18.000 Because I think that's an important conversation to have.

01:43:20.000 It's definitely important to let them know that what they're doing can be seen by virtually every human being that exists.

01:43:28.000 It's at that point.

01:43:30.000 If you put something on a Facebook page, essentially, whether or not you get 14,000 hits or 14 billion, it's really the same thing.

01:43:40.000 Anybody that gets to that spot can get there.

01:43:43.000 And you've got to realize that.

01:43:45.000 Once you let it out there, that's...

01:43:47.000 That's just this new weird connection where anyone can look at your pictures. 0.99

01:43:51.000 And if they're on Facebook, they can comment and they can say weird shit. 0.99

01:43:55.000 They can be lecherous. 1.00

01:43:57.000 They can be strange.

01:43:59.000 That's the reality of the world we live in now.

01:44:01.000 I think you would definitely, especially for girls, you definitely want to be very careful about what you share and what you don't share.

01:44:08.000 I mean, how many times you go to someone's Twitter page, they send you a tweet, and you go, let me just read their tweets.

01:44:14.000 Like, sometimes people say something interesting, and I'll go read their timeline.

01:44:16.000 Oh, let's look at their pictures. 0.99

01:44:18.000 Oh, there's her tits. 1.00

01:44:19.000 Like, what? 1.00

01:44:20.000 It's amazing. 0.93

01:44:21.000 Not even a porn star. 1.00

01:44:22.000 Girls just holding her tits out, smiling, like... 1.00

01:44:25.000 I just don't. 0.99

01:44:26.000 Welcome to the internet.

01:44:27.000 I don't get it. 1.00

01:44:28.000 I don't know if that's like a societal pressure that they're caving into or if it's just stupidity. 1.00

01:44:32.000 Maybe they just really like dick and they just want it coming in on a daily basis. 1.00

01:44:37.000 Just a lot of shipments. 1.00

01:44:38.000 Oh my god.

01:44:39.000 And the best way is just show them what you got.

01:44:42.000 I don't know. 0.97

01:44:43.000 I deal with way too much like crap online to put myself out there like that. 0.97

01:44:46.000 There's no way in hell I would. 0.97

01:44:48.000 I talk about this a lot.

01:44:49.000 You know, every time we do a story about some teenager who like Sexted a picture of herself and then, you know, it got leaked online.

01:44:56.000 I'm like, don't take naked pictures of yourself! 1.00

01:44:57.000 Just don't fucking do it! 1.00

01:44:59.000 Don't do it under any circumstance. 0.99

01:45:01.000 I have a strict rule about that.

01:45:03.000 So...

01:45:04.000 Or do it. 1.00

01:45:05.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:45:06.000 What are you worried about? 1.00

01:45:06.000 No, don't do it. 1.00

01:45:07.000 Don't worry about that either.

01:45:08.000 I agree with you.

01:45:09.000 If you're comfortable with people sharing your naked picture, because you send a naked picture to a guy, it is over.

01:45:16.000 He's going to show it to his friends, and then he might put it online, and he's going to destroy your life.

01:45:21.000 And the thing is, we still live in that puritanical society where if that naked picture surfaces at work, you could lose your job as a result of that. 0.98

01:45:29.000 That's ridiculous. 0.96

01:45:30.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:45:30.000 Did you hear about the guy who lost his job because he was Mr. T for Halloween? 0.96

01:45:35.000 No.

01:45:35.000 He was in Toronto.

01:45:37.000 I did not hear about that.

01:45:38.000 And I was like, this country's going crazy.

01:45:40.000 And people were like, that's not even this country.

01:45:41.000 I get it.

01:45:42.000 I know.

01:45:43.000 It's an expression.

01:45:44.000 Yeah, he put on blackface, so they fired him.

01:45:46.000 He was a teacher.

01:45:47.000 Uh-huh.

01:45:48.000 He was trying to be Mr. T. How could he be Mr. T without blackface? 1.00

01:45:50.000 Are you really saying this?

01:45:52.000 Is there something wrong with that? 1.00

01:45:53.000 He's wearing a fucking outfit. 1.00

01:45:55.000 It's not like he's putting on a minstrel show and singing and got big fake lips. 1.00

01:46:01.000 That's not what he's doing.

01:46:02.000 I know, but look...

01:46:03.000 Canada might be a little different, but blackface has a really dark history, especially in the United States.

01:46:09.000 You think if you play Mr. T and you wear blackface, it's bad? 0.98

01:46:12.000 I don't think you should fire...

01:46:13.000 I do think it's bad.

01:46:14.000 I don't think you should get fired.

01:46:16.000 I don't think...

01:46:17.000 Oh my god.

01:46:18.000 I don't think you should get fired.

01:46:20.000 Um...

01:46:20.000 But it's offensive.

01:46:21.000 It's offensive.

01:46:22.000 It's offensive for a Halloween costume?

01:46:24.000 Yep, I think it is.

01:46:25.000 Mmm, that's hilarious.

01:46:26.000 What if you wear red face?

01:46:27.000 And if you want to be an Indian?

01:46:29.000 Can you do that?

01:46:30.000 Is that offensive?

01:46:31.000 That's pretty offensive too.

01:46:32.000 Okay, what about yellow face?

01:46:33.000 That's pretty offensive too.

01:46:34.000 Why can't you be Mr. T without the black face? 0.97

01:46:37.000 Nope. 1.00

01:46:38.000 People are going to get that you're Mr. T. That's fucking ridiculous though. 0.99

01:46:41.000 Okay, what about Soul Man? 0.99

01:46:42.000 That movie where the guy wore black face through the whole movie?

01:46:44.000 Remember that guy?

01:46:45.000 I don't even know that movie.

01:46:46.000 Oh, how dare you?

01:46:48.000 It was an old movie.

01:46:49.000 C. Thomas Howell.

01:46:50.000 Yeah, C. Thomas Howell.

01:46:51.000 Do you remember that guy?

01:46:52.000 Nope.

01:46:52.000 See, he was before your time.

01:46:54.000 C. Thomas Howell was one of those guys who's like this major league movie star, did a lot of big movies, and then just stopped doing them.

01:47:00.000 He was in, like, he was way back in like the...

01:47:03.000 Side out.

01:47:04.000 What's that?

01:47:05.000 Side Out.

01:47:06.000 What's Side Out?

01:47:07.000 It's a volleyball movie he's in. 0.97

01:47:08.000 How the fuck do you remember that? 1.00

01:47:10.000 How dare you? 0.99

01:47:11.000 But Soul Man, he was in The Outsiders, or what was the one with Johnny Depp and all those?

01:47:16.000 Was it The Outsiders?

01:47:18.000 And he played a guy who wore a black face and pretended to be a black guy for something, like to get in college or something like that.

01:47:27.000 And, I mean, through the whole movie, he wore a black face. 0.58

01:47:31.000 So you think that's, there he is, he's black. 0.73

01:47:34.000 Isn't that hilarious? 0.99

01:47:36.000 He's a black guy in school in blackface.

01:47:38.000 This was like in the 1980s.

01:47:39.000 Look at this.

01:47:40.000 He's got a Jericho wig on. 0.70

01:47:42.000 That's insane.

01:47:43.000 I don't know.

01:47:43.000 Is that offensive?

01:47:44.000 The standard is probably a little different in movies, but I don't know.

01:47:49.000 Movies are more real than Halloween.

01:47:51.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:47:52.000 No, movies are not more real than Halloween.

01:47:54.000 Look, I think that given the history of blackface and given how offensive it is to the black community, why go there? 1.00

01:48:04.000 Why?

01:48:05.000 Why?

01:48:06.000 I don't understand the value of it.

01:48:08.000 Okay, so you want to look even more like Mr. T or whatever.

01:48:12.000 It's fine.

01:48:13.000 You can do it without doing the blackface, given our history and given how offensive it is.

01:48:17.000 Just move forward.

01:48:18.000 That's hilarious.

01:48:19.000 I couldn't disagree more.

01:48:20.000 I think it's just an outfit.

01:48:22.000 I think if you're really pretending that if you're a completely non-racist guy and you put some... 0.84

01:48:26.000 Paint on that makes you look more like an African American, that somehow you're doing something offensive, I think that's silly. 0.99

01:48:33.000 I think the idea of a white person pretending to be a black person is just as weird as the idea of a black person pretending to be a white person, but who gives a shit? 0.99

01:48:40.000 If a black guy puts white face on and does that thing that Dave Chappelle used to do in his show where he pretended to be a white man reading the news with white paint on, nobody gave a fuck. 0.99

01:48:49.000 Yeah, well, white people were not made fun of and discriminated against and freaking lynched and murdered and Did you see Pineapple X Arrest? 0.99

01:48:58.000 Is that what it is? 0.61

01:48:59.000 Tropic Thunder.

01:48:59.000 Tropic Thunder with Robert Downey Jr. where he wears blackface through the whole movie?

01:49:03.000 I did not see that. 0.99

01:49:04.000 Fucking beautiful movie. 1.00

01:49:06.000 He played a black guy in the entire movie. 0.99

01:49:12.000 Look, that's a really interesting argument, and I might reconsider my thoughts on it.

01:49:17.000 But based on where I stand now, I just feel like... 0.99

01:49:21.000 Look, I feel really uncomfortable with it just because how society would make fun of black people by making white actors put the black face on and, you know, mimic them and make them seem like they were morons and they were less than. 1.00

01:49:36.000 It just has such a dark history. 0.99

01:49:38.000 So if people find it offensive, I'm definitely empathetic toward that. 0.97

01:49:42.000 So Al Jolson basically fucked up Halloween. 0.93

01:49:44.000 That's what you're saying. 0.98

01:49:46.000 Definitely. 1.00

01:49:46.000 With all that stupid blackface and racist bullshit. 1.00

01:49:49.000 I think if you're racist, you're racist. 1.00

01:49:51.000 And I think if you're not racist, then there's nothing wrong with pretending to be a black person. 0.99

01:49:56.000 If you're going to be it for Halloween. 0.93

01:49:58.000 It's one thing if you're like mocking black people in general, that's offensive. 0.88

01:50:02.000 But you're a guy, a specific guy. 0.96

01:50:04.000 You're Mr. T. You got gold chains on.

01:50:06.000 It's Halloween.

01:50:08.000 Dude, there's Dave Chappelle pretending to be a white guy.

01:50:10.000 Preparations for slavery. 0.50

01:50:11.000 Yeah.

01:50:12.000 That's real racism right there.

01:50:14.000 Yeah.

01:50:14.000 By the way, he doesn't look white at all.

01:50:16.000 He doesn't.

01:50:17.000 That was terrible. 0.98

01:50:19.000 Just as bad as see Thomas Howell pretend to be black. 0.68

01:50:21.000 Equally confusing.

01:50:24.000 That's funny.

01:50:24.000 I don't know.

01:50:25.000 I see your point, though, and I appreciate it.

01:50:27.000 I appreciate where you're coming from.

01:50:29.000 It's like, why do it?

01:50:30.000 It's not worth it.

01:50:31.000 And it's not worth it.

01:50:32.000 I mean, I wouldn't want to be Mr. T for Halloween.

01:50:34.000 Yeah.

01:50:35.000 And I see your point where it's different in a movie, I guess, but I don't think... 1.00

01:50:40.000 It wouldn't bother me if one of my friends was Mr. T. I wouldn't be like, man, you're fucking racist, bro. 1.00

01:50:44.000 You have makeup on. 1.00

01:50:45.000 You're racist. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Mm-hmm. 0.75

01:50:47.000 There was a story about these two women in England, or two girls in England, and they were dressed as the World Trade Center on fire after the attack.

01:50:55.000 Oh, I saw that.

01:50:56.000 And they had people, like little fake people, jumping out of the costume.

01:51:02.000 And to add insult to injury, they were part of this costume contest, and they won.

01:51:07.000 They won best contest.

01:51:09.000 I'm sorry, best costume.

01:51:11.000 So, like...

01:51:13.000 What amazes me is how little people think these things through before they do it.

01:51:19.000 You see what I'm saying?

01:51:20.000 I mean, there are some things that you just do not mess with, and that's a perfect example of something you don't mess with, especially considering that there are family members that lost people as a result of those attacks.

01:51:32.000 Family members who saw their own family members jumping off those buildings. 0.99

01:51:36.000 And then you have these two dumbasses wearing this stupid costume Kind of making fun of that situation. 1.00

01:51:43.000 There are some things you don't mess with and that's a perfect example of it. 1.00

01:51:46.000 Well, I think it's another example of really dumb people getting together and convincing each other that everything's going to be cool. 0.97

01:51:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:51:52.000 Like, oh my god, it's such a great idea, isn't it?

01:51:54.000 Look, I have fire!

01:51:56.000 Oh my god, amazing!

01:51:57.000 But apparently, in their little bubble, it was a great idea because they won.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, you could pull that off if you lived in a small town in Alaska before the internet.

01:52:04.000 Yeah.

01:52:05.000 You know, when people didn't know any better.

01:52:07.000 True.

01:52:08.000 But now, especially if that picture goes on Facebook or something like that, oh, prepare yourself, ma'am, for the avalanche of hate.

01:52:15.000 Asiana Airlines' pilot costume may be most offensive of 2013. Who is that?

01:52:20.000 I don't know this story.

01:52:22.000 The pilots that crashed?

01:52:23.000 The pilots?

01:52:24.000 That plane that crashed in San Francisco a couple months ago?

01:52:26.000 What was their...

01:52:27.000 Oh, they dressed as the pilots? 0.82

01:52:29.000 They dressed as some bloody pilots.

01:52:31.000 They put blood on their face and they were just dressed as pilots. 0.67

01:52:33.000 Oh, God.

01:52:34.000 Very tasteless.

01:52:34.000 I'll just bring that up.

01:52:35.000 Oh, okay.

01:52:37.000 Oh, God.

01:52:38.000 I just don't...

01:52:39.000 Why? 1.00

01:52:40.000 Why are people so dumb? 1.00

01:52:42.000 People are dumb. 1.00

01:52:43.000 They're just dumb. 1.00

01:52:44.000 They want to be shocking, too. 1.00

01:52:46.000 They want to be paid attention to. 0.99

01:52:47.000 And if you go as the Hulk, no one's going to give a fuck. 0.99

01:52:50.000 There's a million of those out there. 0.99

01:52:52.000 But if you go as this, people go, oh my god, what are you doing?

01:52:55.000 And then they pay attention to you.

01:52:57.000 That's what it is.

01:52:58.000 They just want to get a little shock, just get a little rise out of people.

01:53:01.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:53:04.000 Julianna Hough.

01:53:05.000 Who was one of the Dancing with the Stars performers or whatever.

01:53:08.000 She dressed in blackface. 1.00

01:53:10.000 And I feel like you should hold public figures to a higher standard because I think you're more aware of this kind of shit. 1.00

01:53:18.000 More aware of the kind of criticism you're going to get. 0.99

01:53:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:22.000 You're putting yourself out there.

01:53:24.000 People are going to see you.

01:53:25.000 And so I almost feel as though...

01:53:29.000 What is she supposed to be? 0.55

01:53:31.000 She's supposed to be one of the characters from Orange is the New Black.

01:53:33.000 I forget the character's name.

01:53:37.000 And she doesn't really look black. 0.75

01:53:38.000 She looks more bronze than anything.

01:53:40.000 She looks like she got a really bad fake tan. 1.00

01:53:43.000 She went to West Hollywood and got a spray tan.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, one of them real ones.

01:53:47.000 Yeah.

01:53:48.000 And so she was like, what?

01:53:50.000 Oh my, I had no idea.

01:53:51.000 I apologize.

01:53:52.000 She had this apology.

01:53:53.000 And that, I felt like, was a little bit of a publicity stunt.

01:53:58.000 That's my speculation.

01:53:59.000 Yeah.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, probably most likely. 1.00

01:54:02.000 A lot of people are just dumb. 1.00

01:54:05.000 And that's not as dark as one of those bodybuilder women, when they get that spray tan stuff. 1.00

01:54:10.000 They get really, really dark with that stuff.

01:54:12.000 Are you into that?

01:54:12.000 Oh yeah.

01:54:13.000 You are?

01:54:13.000 No.

01:54:14.000 Does it turn you on?

01:54:14.000 No.

01:54:15.000 I'm not into girls that would... 1.00

01:54:18.000 Potentially kick my ass. 1.00

01:54:19.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:20.000 Or be more manly than me.

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:21.000 My favorite discussions on this show usually center around the appropriate way a female body part should look.

01:54:28.000 I don't remember who your guest was, but you guys were talking about the appropriate look of a vagina. 1.00

01:54:32.000 I guarantee you I know it was. 0.99

01:54:33.000 Jim Norton.

01:54:33.000 It was Jim Norton.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, that dirty bastard. 1.00

01:54:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:37.000 And that was after I was confirmed to come on your show.

01:54:40.000 And I remember talking to my friend, Christian, who loves your show, by the way.

01:54:43.000 Christian Lopez.

01:54:44.000 He wanted me to say hi.

01:54:45.000 Oh, what's up, dude?

01:54:45.000 So there you go.

01:54:46.000 And I was like, what the fuck did I just get myself into right now? 0.97

01:54:50.000 Sorry. 0.85

01:54:51.000 We give out a bad impression.

01:54:52.000 No, not at all.

01:54:53.000 You're totally fine.

01:54:54.000 But we do.

01:54:55.000 We do give out a bad impression. 0.89

01:54:57.000 If you wanted to cherry pick shit out of our past, you know, the things that we've done on this show, yeah, I could look a little sketch. 0.92

01:55:03.000 Yeah? 0.94

01:55:04.000 Yeah.

01:55:05.000 Well, I mean, that's true if you cherry pick.

01:55:07.000 But people like to compare you to Howard Stern.

01:55:09.000 I actually don't think you're like Howard Stern at all.

01:55:12.000 I think that you're a little more...

01:55:15.000 He's intelligent.

01:55:16.000 Howard Stern's a brilliant man.

01:55:18.000 He is a brilliant man.

01:55:19.000 Don't get it wrong.

01:55:19.000 Yeah, he is.

01:55:20.000 I think that the topics you choose to talk about are a little more intelligent.

01:55:24.000 Well, you know, he does a lot of pop culture stuff.

01:55:26.000 Yeah, he does.

01:55:27.000 You know, he interviews a lot of artists, and he's really good at getting them to talk and say things maybe ordinarily that they would.

01:55:33.000 But, you know, I mean, I think he's also got a much larger audience.

01:55:37.000 And there's also a bunch of people behind him that probably would... 0.91

01:55:42.000 Kind of like want him to talk about certain subjects, but I've, you know, we started this out just on a laptop, and I don't really give a fuck what other people are interested in. 0.99

01:55:52.000 I give a fuck what I'm interested in. 0.98

01:55:53.000 And this whole thing started out just for fun. 0.99

01:55:56.000 So, like yesterday, I had a real Astrodon on.

01:55:59.000 I mean, I had that dude who was on the...

01:56:02.000 Did he leave a book?

01:56:03.000 No, he didn't.

01:56:04.000 He sent it to us.

01:56:05.000 He was on the space station for 166 days. 0.97

01:56:08.000 It was really fucking interesting stuff. 0.94

01:56:10.000 It was fascinating. 0.98

01:56:12.000 Chris Hadfield.

01:56:13.000 He's awesome.

01:56:15.000 That was a real honor.

01:56:17.000 That, to me, that's the kind of people that I want to talk to.

01:56:20.000 I just want to talk to fascinating people.

01:56:22.000 Chris Ryan, the guy who we were looking at his photo before.

01:56:25.000 Yeah, I love Chris Ryan.

01:56:27.000 He's great.

01:56:27.000 He's been on our show several times.

01:56:29.000 He's just really interesting.

01:56:31.000 I love his openness about sexuality and what humans are actually physically driven to do, biologically driven to do.

01:56:41.000 And it's very different from societal norms and expectations.

01:56:44.000 So there's always that conflict there.

01:56:46.000 Or just a stand-up comedian or just an MMA fighter or just a friend.

01:56:50.000 I mean, I've had just friends on.

01:56:51.000 I think...

01:56:53.000 Too many people are out there trying to get the attention of...

01:57:01.000 Of people by having people on that are famous or having people on that are pop culture.

01:57:08.000 And they're interesting to tap into sometimes and find out what makes them tick.

01:57:11.000 But for me, I want to talk to Neil deGrasse Tyson.

01:57:14.000 I want to talk to Sam Harris.

01:57:16.000 I want to talk to brilliant people.

01:57:17.000 I want to talk to people and pick their brain.

01:57:19.000 People that I don't normally hear on the radio or don't normally hear interviewed on television shows.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, I mean, and going back to the discussion we had on new media, that's what millennials respond to better.

01:57:31.000 They like the interviews with real people or brilliant people who are trying to make a difference in the world. 0.96

01:57:37.000 They like that way more than, you know, the celebrity bullshit. 0.96

01:57:41.000 I think the celebrity stuff's fun, too. 0.99

01:57:43.000 It's fun.

01:57:44.000 It's fun, but...

01:57:45.000 Snacks.

01:57:45.000 Yeah.

01:57:46.000 I mean, I think millennials will take that for what it's worth, but they're more interested in change.

01:57:53.000 And that's the reason why most of them voted for Obama, because he kept preaching change, even though we didn't really get any of it.

01:57:59.000 Yeah.

01:58:00.000 So...

01:58:00.000 But like with Stern interviews like Corey Feldman, I'm going to listen to that.

01:58:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:58:06.000 I'm there for the train wreck.

01:58:07.000 Oh, I remember very recently Howard Stern interviewed Sharon Osbourne, one person that I couldn't possibly care less about.

01:58:16.000 And it was such a fascinating interview.

01:58:18.000 And I was like, that's the magic of Howard Stern.

01:58:21.000 He can make any interview interesting because he will ask inappropriate questions.

01:58:25.000 Yeah, he digs into your psyche.

01:58:27.000 Someone like Sharon Osbourne.

01:58:29.000 Yeah.

01:58:29.000 You know, married to Ozzy Osbourne.

01:58:31.000 What the fuck is going on there? 0.99

01:58:33.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:58:34.000 Madness, craziness.

01:58:35.000 That is madness and craziness.

01:58:37.000 Yeah, the idea of having a podcast is...

01:58:40.000 I mean, I never really thought that I would ever have a radio show, because I always kind of figured, like...

01:58:46.000 I always enjoyed going on morning radio, and I always enjoyed it when I would go and do stand-up.

01:58:51.000 I would come in early to promote...

01:58:53.000 And you do radio, like back in the days before the internet, that's how you sold tickets.

01:58:57.000 And I always had a good time on the air, and I said, wow, it would be cool to have a radio show. 0.93

01:59:00.000 But then I was like, who the fuck's going to give me a radio job, and that's not going to happen. 0.99

01:59:04.000 And on top of that, they're going to tell me I can't swear, and that shit's going to get tired. 0.99

01:59:09.000 And then satellite radio came along, and I started doing the Opie and Anthony show a lot. 0.99

01:59:13.000 And those guys are great.

01:59:15.000 And the way they have it set up is a lot like this show, where it's just a conversation.

01:59:20.000 They don't have a specific agenda.

01:59:22.000 They don't have games they want to play.

01:59:24.000 All right, Anna, it's time to play.

01:59:26.000 What would you rather do? 1.00

01:59:28.000 They don't have that kind of stupid shit. 1.00

01:59:29.000 Nice. 1.00

01:59:30.000 It's just a conversation.

01:59:31.000 It's just a hang.

01:59:32.000 And so that's really what sort of fueled getting this thing started.

01:59:36.000 But that was...

01:59:37.000 So you have a three hour long show.

01:59:38.000 Do you ever have a difficult time with- Holding my bladder?

01:59:41.000 Well, yes, that's a good question.

01:59:44.000 But on top of that, it's really difficult to find guests that are willing to have a three hour long conversation.

01:59:51.000 Yeah, well, yes and no.

01:59:54.000 You know, we don't have a hard time finding guests.

01:59:56.000 But yeah, some people are just not, it's not right for them. 0.99

02:00:00.000 Some people don't want to talk for three hours because if you talk for three hours long enough, people are going to find out who the fuck you really are. 0.99

02:00:06.000 Yep, that's true. 0.99

02:00:07.000 It just takes time.

02:00:09.000 And they're going to find out what tweaks you or what you like, what you don't like, what's weird about you.

02:00:14.000 They get to know you very, very deeply.

02:00:17.000 Do you think your audience has a good sense of my weird characteristics? 1.00

02:00:19.000 Yeah, you're a weird bitch. 1.00

02:00:20.000 I'm super weird, right? 1.00

02:00:22.000 It's alright, though.

02:00:23.000 It's good.

02:00:24.000 You're a nice person.

02:00:24.000 That's all that matters.

02:00:25.000 Being a nice person. 0.99

02:00:27.000 The weird thing is, who the fuck's not weird? 0.99

02:00:29.000 Everyone's weird. 0.99

02:00:30.000 Everyone's got their little habits and stuff.

02:00:33.000 I was talking to my friend about how important it is to be open-minded, especially at this point in our lives, like when we're, you know, willing to meet new people and make new friends and all that other stuff.

02:00:43.000 And like, you come across people that have certain habits that are just strange.

02:00:47.000 And when I was younger, I'd be like, ugh, like, I just don't want anything to do with this person.

02:00:51.000 And now, I love this.

02:00:53.000 I love that I've grown into this person where...

02:00:56.000 Where I will step back.

02:00:58.000 I'll realize that something's weird and it'll make me uncomfortable.

02:01:01.000 I'll ask why it makes me uncomfortable.

02:01:03.000 And I'll be like, alright, that's fine.

02:01:06.000 It's not something that's going to hurt me or damage me.

02:01:08.000 So live with it.

02:01:10.000 It doesn't bother me.

02:01:11.000 Like if you're out with people and they're holding hands and you're like, so what's your deal?

02:01:14.000 And they're like, oh, we're swingers.

02:01:15.000 We're going to go swing club. 1.00

02:01:17.000 Fuck it. 1.00

02:01:17.000 I mean, if you're swingers, I don't want to join you guys. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Exactly.

02:01:21.000 No one does, by the way.

02:01:22.000 You do you.

02:01:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:23.000 They're always disgusting humans. 1.00

02:01:25.000 I don't know. 0.98

02:01:26.000 I've actually never met swingers before.

02:01:28.000 I met two swingers in my whole life.

02:01:29.000 They were like out and out telling me they were swingers, like introduced themselves as swingers.

02:01:32.000 One of them, Ari and I were in Nashville.

02:01:34.000 We were doing stand-up.

02:01:35.000 And this guy was driving us around for two days.

02:01:39.000 And he was a limo driver.

02:01:41.000 And he was just like, yes sir, no sir.

02:01:43.000 And then finally he's dropping us off at the airport.

02:01:45.000 And the dude just opens up the floodgates and just starts talking about swinging and what he does and what he likes to do.

02:01:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:52.000 I don't really like to watch my wife get fucked, but sometimes she likes watching me have sex. 1.00

02:01:57.000 Wow. 1.00

02:01:58.000 If I don't feel comfortable about a guy, I can tell her no.

02:02:00.000 We were like, what?

02:02:03.000 I wonder what kind of guys he's uncomfortable with.

02:02:05.000 Big ones, probably.

02:02:07.000 He's probably a fan of the mediocre guy theory.

02:02:10.000 Absolutely. 1.00

02:02:11.000 You don't want to let your girlfriend get gorilla fucked by some giant lineman in front of you. 1.00

02:02:16.000 That would be horrendous. 1.00

02:02:18.000 That's the last thing you want.

02:02:20.000 So he can give the red light.

02:02:22.000 He would save himself for a guy who's coughing.

02:02:25.000 A man with a limp.

02:02:28.000 Take him, honey.

02:02:29.000 I don't want him.

02:02:30.000 He'll show you a good time.

02:02:32.000 He's a good looking guy, honey.

02:02:33.000 Just try to find some guy who's less endowed than you, less virile than you.

02:02:38.000 That's understandable, though.

02:02:40.000 You don't want to deal with that competition.

02:02:42.000 I guess.

02:02:44.000 It's just sad.

02:02:45.000 We had a conversation about like furries on the show before.

02:02:49.000 Oh! 0.60

02:02:49.000 Yeah. 0.60

02:02:49.000 And so I don't see anything wrong. 0.60

02:02:51.000 I mean, I don't prefer furries.

02:02:53.000 Don't get me wrong.

02:02:54.000 But like, whatever. 0.97

02:02:55.000 They like to dress up as animals when they're having sex. 1.00

02:02:57.000 Like, I don't care. 0.77

02:02:58.000 If that doesn't bother...

02:02:59.000 Like, if I found out someone I'm hanging out with is into that...

02:03:02.000 Then I would just be like, alright, you're into that.

02:03:04.000 It's totally fine.

02:03:05.000 Really?

02:03:06.000 So if you were dating a guy and you found out that he was into being a furry and he would go to furry conventions and they'd snip each other's fake butts and bounce around like squirrels, you'd be like, that's fine.

02:03:15.000 I don't have a problem with that.

02:03:16.000 Come on.

02:03:17.000 You would judge him.

02:03:19.000 I would like to say that I would not judge him. 1.00

02:03:22.000 I would judge the shit out of a girl. 1.00

02:03:24.000 If I was dating and I met a girl and we're hanging out and she's pretty cool and then she's like, well, there's this one thing that I really like to do. 0.99

02:03:31.000 I like to pretend to be a chipmunk mascot and I put on my chipmunk mascot outfit on and I go to these conventions in Pittsburgh.

02:03:39.000 We all fly in with our furry outfits on and we dance around together and we pretend to have sex but no one really penetrates anybody. 0.93

02:03:47.000 Um, yeah, look...

02:03:49.000 It is what it is.

02:03:50.000 I feel like there are definitely...

02:03:52.000 There are worse fetishes out there.

02:03:54.000 There absolutely are.

02:03:55.000 Like guys who like to wear diapers and they like to get changed. 0.77

02:03:58.000 That kind of stuff scares the hell out of me.

02:04:00.000 How do you even preach that conversation?

02:04:02.000 I don't even know.

02:04:03.000 I don't even know.

02:04:04.000 I don't know how...

02:04:05.000 I give them...

02:04:06.000 Furries, for instance.

02:04:08.000 I give them props because how do you find someone who's willing to deal with your fetish?

02:04:12.000 Well, I think there's something in being willing to deal with almost anything that's like...

02:04:19.000 It's extra attractive.

02:04:20.000 You have to be open-minded.

02:04:22.000 When people start dating each other, this is my thinking on it.

02:04:27.000 When people start dating each other, if someone really wants someone to be a part of their life, they might want to do something really weird with them to show them that I do not care.

02:04:38.000 I'll do anything.

02:04:38.000 I'll change your diaper.

02:04:39.000 I'll wipe your butt. 0.99

02:04:41.000 I remember a dude that I know. 0.99

02:04:43.000 We were at a fight.

02:04:45.000 It was backstage.

02:04:46.000 My friend was warming up in the green room. 0.99

02:04:48.000 And this dude went into the bathroom with his girlfriend and took a shit in front of her. 1.00

02:04:54.000 This little bathroom together. 1.00

02:04:56.000 And I go, did you just take a shit in front of her? 1.00

02:04:59.000 Really? 1.00

02:04:59.000 Because I went in there afterwards. 1.00

02:05:01.000 He wrecked the bathroom.

02:05:02.000 But why?

02:05:03.000 But I asked him.

02:05:04.000 I go, what's that about?

02:05:06.000 He goes, we do everything together, man.

02:05:07.000 We do everything together.

02:05:08.000 No, that's not healthy.

02:05:09.000 That's not healthy, though.

02:05:10.000 Yeah.

02:05:11.000 But that's... 0.99

02:05:12.000 How can you say it's not and you can say wearing a fucking furry outfit is healthy? 0.98

02:05:16.000 No, but there's like a codependency issue there. 0.99

02:05:19.000 That's not healthy.

02:05:20.000 If you have to do everything together, that would be my nightmare.

02:05:23.000 My goal in life is to find a guy that is comfortable with me living my life and not...

02:05:30.000 This dude's right now writing on Twitter, I am comfortable with you living your life.

02:05:36.000 I feel like sometimes my issue is I'm too wrapped up in my career bubble and I'm really attracted to independent guys that don't want a girl who's always on him.

02:05:49.000 Guys pretend like they don't like that, but they do.

02:05:52.000 They want a girl who's all about him all the time and I'm just not that kind of person.

02:05:57.000 Especially if you have your own career.

02:05:59.000 Yeah.

02:05:59.000 That's too inconvenient.

02:06:00.000 I love...

02:06:01.000 Is it inconvenient?

02:06:03.000 Some people.

02:06:04.000 I love independent, strong people.

02:06:09.000 That's the biggest turn-on to me.

02:06:11.000 Not me.

02:06:11.000 I like them weak, dependent.

02:06:13.000 A lot of people do.

02:06:14.000 I like that.

02:06:15.000 I like when people get sick a lot.

02:06:16.000 I like when people need you to get them soup.

02:06:18.000 A lot of people do like that.

02:06:20.000 Yeah, I guess they do.

02:06:21.000 Codependency is a real issue.

02:06:22.000 Yeah.

02:06:23.000 Well, people want, I mean, isn't that really the mediocre guy theory?

02:06:26.000 That you want to make sure it doesn't go anywhere?

02:06:28.000 No!

02:06:29.000 Sort of similar.

02:06:29.000 And by the way, I don't even, just to be completely crystal clear, my mediocre guy theory is a little bit of a joke.

02:06:36.000 I understand.

02:06:36.000 Like, obviously I don't want a mediocre guy, and obviously I want a guy that I'm physically attracted to, but I do believe that a guy is as faithful as his opportunities.

02:06:45.000 Same goes for women, by the way. 1.00

02:06:47.000 It's not just men. 1.00

02:06:48.000 Those dirty bitches. 1.00

02:06:49.000 I can't even believe you're saying that. 1.00

02:06:52.000 Yeah.

02:06:52.000 Well, you know what?

02:06:53.000 It's especially human beings when they're not like If you haven't found someone that enthralls you or someone that you're deeply locked in with, it's real easy to lose a relationship.

02:07:09.000 You've got a relationship and you're like, you know what?

02:07:12.000 I'm not investing any more time in this.

02:07:14.000 And then boom.

02:07:16.000 And guys are always worried about the music ending and then being left without a chair.

02:07:20.000 Like, hey, you're playing musical chairs and the music stops and there's nowhere to sit down.

02:07:25.000 No one wants me.

02:07:26.000 That's that thing, that thing that a lot of people want someone to want them.

02:07:30.000 And if they're dating an independent woman, they realize, like, this chick, whether she enjoys your company or not, she could do without you, dude, and she's fine.

02:07:37.000 You know?

02:07:38.000 That freaks guys out.

02:07:39.000 A lot of guys, they want some girl who's, like, waiting by the phone, and when you call her, oh my god, I was so happy you called.

02:07:45.000 Should I say that? 1.00

02:07:49.000 That's such bullshit. 1.00

02:07:51.000 Not buying it for a second. 1.00

02:07:52.000 No, it's true.

02:07:53.000 It's the same reason why people pretend they like to fight. 1.00

02:07:57.000 Men always say, if I was a black belt, I'd go to the UFC and kick everybody's ass. 1.00

02:08:03.000 You don't understand what you're saying. 1.00

02:08:05.000 What you're saying is you would like to beat somebody up, but you don't really actually want to fight. 0.98

02:08:10.000 Because the fighting is fucking brutal, and somebody might beat you up. 0.98

02:08:13.000 You could lose. 0.99

02:08:14.000 It's not guaranteed.

02:08:15.000 It's a risky, wild...

02:08:18.000 The whole thing, the whole proposition is incredibly risky.

02:08:23.000 So are relationships.

02:08:25.000 Relationships are unbelievably risky.

02:08:26.000 Of course.

02:08:27.000 So a lot of people don't even want to enter in a relationship.

02:08:29.000 They just want to smash it. 1.00

02:08:30.000 They just want to go in there and kick somebody's ass. 1.00

02:08:32.000 The same way they want to go in there and kick somebody's ass in a fight and not actually be in a fight. 1.00

02:08:37.000 They don't want to date some girl who's smart, intelligent, is going to see through my bullshit and I can't use all the stuff that I learned in my pickup artist book that I've been reading for the past six months. 1.00

02:08:46.000 Uh-huh. 0.98

02:08:46.000 You're going to see right through that and you're going to pick out the flaws and all my arguments. 0.98

02:08:51.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:08:52.000 I'm just looking for a dumb chick with a limp that I could dominate for a short amount of time and then bail. 1.00

02:08:59.000 That is a sexy man right there. 1.00

02:09:01.000 It's a weak dude, but there's a lot of them.

02:09:03.000 It's because people are scared of failure.

02:09:04.000 I've met some really strong, intelligent, confident men, and I love that.

02:09:12.000 Well, they exist.

02:09:13.000 They exist.

02:09:14.000 They're very, very rare, but they exist.

02:09:17.000 I shouldn't even say they're very, very rare.

02:09:19.000 How do I know?

02:09:19.000 It's not like I've been dating a billion guys, right?

02:09:22.000 But they exist, and when I say that I like the independents, it doesn't mean I don't need him.

02:09:28.000 It means this person makes me a better person and I want to make him a better person.

02:09:33.000 We have this strong bond, this strong partnership, but we don't suffocate each other.

02:09:38.000 I think a lot of relationships are suffocating and I want to avoid that at all costs.

02:09:44.000 You know what I mean?

02:09:45.000 Yeah, it's tough to not be suffocating sometimes if you're scared and you're clinging on to the last piece of wood you found floating in the ocean after the horrible wreck of the last X amount of years of your life.

02:09:57.000 That's a lot of people.

02:09:58.000 You run into them.

02:09:59.000 You're not just running into a person.

02:10:00.000 You're running into a person that's just getting back on their feet from some whatever fucking disaster, whatever it was, whatever breakup, whatever home repossession, lost job.

02:10:10.000 What is the crisis that you just recently survived and just washed up on shore and now you're meeting that person? 1.00

02:10:16.000 You meet someone in their 30s, oh my god, you're meeting a lot of shit. 1.00

02:10:20.000 You're meeting a lot of shit. 1.00

02:10:22.000 It's a lot of years. 0.99

02:10:23.000 It's not a bad thing.

02:10:24.000 Some people are better for it.

02:10:25.000 I mean, there's the bright side of it.

02:10:27.000 Some people, because of all those disasters, they develop character, they understand what's good and not good, how they should behave, what are the ramifications of different kinds of behaviors.

02:10:38.000 You find that out.

02:10:39.000 But how many people learn from their mistakes?

02:10:42.000 Half.

02:10:42.000 Half of them to 50% of the people learn from their mistakes.

02:10:45.000 At least half, I hope.

02:10:47.000 I would hope, but I don't think it's even 40. I think it's probably like 30. That's depressing.

02:10:50.000 The rest of the people are just banging their heads on coconut trees. 0.99

02:10:53.000 People are crazy. 1.00

02:10:54.000 They are crazy. 0.76

02:10:55.000 I just, I feel like it's better to, look, if you don't meet someone that makes you feel good about yourself and you do the same for them, I feel like it's just better to be alone and live your life and wait. 0.96

02:11:07.000 Be an old lady with a lot of cats and a vibrator. 1.00

02:11:10.000 Maybe not the cats.

02:11:12.000 Vibrators, sure.

02:11:12.000 Why not?

02:11:14.000 Did you see that new Oculus Rift thing that they have?

02:11:17.000 The 3D reality goggles? 0.85

02:11:19.000 They've come up with one now that allows you to have sex. 0.66

02:11:22.000 It connects you to some sort of an artificial thing that's like a fleshlight that's moving up at No, I know nothing about that.

02:11:29.000 But I have read stories about robots that they're creating that are very lifelike, so women will be useless in 10 years or something when these are perfected in Japan. 1.00

02:11:39.000 I'm kidding about the women being useless part. 1.00

02:11:41.000 For some men, there will be something that they won't have the effort to pursue anymore. 0.95

02:11:46.000 Right.

02:11:46.000 That's going to be real.

02:11:47.000 I've talked to a guy who cannot wait for these sex robots to be perfected.

02:11:57.000 And he's totally honest about it. 0.60

02:11:59.000 He's like, yeah, they're so lifelike that you can have a relationship with a sex robot.

02:12:04.000 And it's like, I don't even know what my response should be to that.

02:12:07.000 You don't.

02:12:08.000 That worries me.

02:12:08.000 It will always be an empty, hollow relationship.

02:12:11.000 There's always going to be something missing from it. 0.99

02:12:12.000 You're always going to want to have sex with them, maybe. 0.99

02:12:15.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:12:15.000 You know, if they look like super hot in their robots, but hanging out with them, there's going to come a point in time where you realize that this is just a bunch of circuits. 0.97

02:12:22.000 Yeah.

02:12:23.000 Just a bunch of electrical impulses.

02:12:24.000 Yeah.

02:12:24.000 Going through a board.

02:12:25.000 Definitely.

02:12:26.000 Staring at you and coming at you with some pre-recorded voice.

02:12:29.000 Yeah.

02:12:29.000 It's going to be weird.

02:12:30.000 Yeah.

02:12:32.000 Part of what people like about people is that we're all in this crazy thing together.

02:12:37.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:12:39.000 And going back to the necessity of human interaction, in some Asian countries, prostitutes offer something called the girlfriend experience. 0.98

02:12:49.000 And they probably do that here in the United States too, but I distinctly remember talking about it in Korea, I believe.

02:12:55.000 And they don't just have sex with the guys. 1.00

02:12:58.000 In some cases, they never have sex with the guys.

02:13:00.000 The guys will pay for the girl to be like a girlfriend where she's nurturing and caring and cuddles with him and watches movies with him and stuff like that. 1.00

02:13:09.000 And that actually gave me a little bit of faith in humanity because that showed me that there are people out there that just want that connection.

02:13:17.000 They want more than that physical, raw interaction.

02:13:20.000 They want something emotional. 1.00

02:13:22.000 Yeah, there's always going to be that, but they would like to fuck as well. 1.00

02:13:25.000 That's true. 0.96

02:13:26.000 The problem is, a lot of times, the girlfriend experience is $50, whereas the other thing, if you want to actually have sex, like $125.

02:13:32.000 So you have to budget, you know, if you're living in Japan in a tiny apartment. 0.98

02:13:36.000 So you're not buying it?

02:13:37.000 No.

02:13:37.000 Really?

02:13:38.000 No, these guys are cuddling because they do want to cuddle, but they definitely want to move to the next level.

02:13:43.000 I don't think you're giving guys enough credit.

02:13:45.000 I think that guys, they like to pretend like they don't have any emotional connection or want that emotional connection, but a lot of them want.

02:13:53.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:54.000 No, don't get me wrong.

02:13:55.000 I'm not saying that.

02:13:56.000 Men definitely want an emotional connection with a girlfriend or a wife or a woman in their life. 1.00

02:14:02.000 Label it in any way you want, but they also want to fuck. 0.99

02:14:06.000 Yeah, that's human nature. 0.99

02:14:07.000 But if they can't get that, if all they can get is cuddling, they'll take the cuddling.

02:14:10.000 But they would like a little bit more.

02:14:12.000 It's just natural.

02:14:13.000 Why would someone be affectionate with me but not want to please me all the way?

02:14:17.000 Why can't I get rid of this throbbing thing?

02:14:20.000 That's just a natural...

02:14:21.000 I mean, it's as natural as eating one piece of your food and wanting to eat the rest of it.

02:14:29.000 It's natural.

02:14:30.000 It's completely natural.

02:14:31.000 So, like, there was a thing recently where a woman was, like, making $90 an hour cuddling with people. 1.00

02:14:37.000 She was, like, hiring herself out to cuddle with people. 1.00

02:14:40.000 I mean, I couldn't do it, but make money.

02:14:43.000 All I was thinking of, like, what a dangerous situation that is for the girl to be with some man holding on to her, like, in, like, very close proximity.

02:14:51.000 Like, how many guys are just going to start beating off on her back? 1.00

02:14:54.000 You know, how many guys are going to be cuddling with her and try to rape her? 1.00

02:14:57.000 It's like, I wouldn't trust a guy to cuddle with him like that. 0.99

02:15:01.000 Me, as a guy, I wouldn't trust a guy.

02:15:03.000 We're not cuddling, dude.

02:15:05.000 Look, I don't know what the legality of that is, but it does go back to the whole prostitution issue and how important it is to legalize and regulate it and create a safe environment for women to do that type of stuff so you can actually mitigate or minimize those types of instances where a guy will be abusive or do something degrading or demeaning.

02:15:23.000 The worry is also, I mean always, that you're promoting it and that if you make prostitution legal and the people are going to go to prostitution that would never go to prostitution before.

02:15:33.000 So what?

02:15:35.000 What kind of a woman are you? 1.00

02:15:36.000 Who are you?

02:15:37.000 I'm a woman with an open mind.

02:15:38.000 You need to get together with those lawyer women and all of you. 1.00

02:15:41.000 Sell your vaginas down the river. 1.00

02:15:42.000 Just sell them. 1.00

02:15:43.000 I just feel like people who want to have relations with a prostitute are going to do it anyway. 1.00

02:15:49.000 And if legalizing prostitution somehow convinces someone who wouldn't otherwise go to a prostitute to go through with it, then okay, like there are worse things in the world. 0.98

02:15:58.000 It's just, it's sex. 0.89

02:15:59.000 So I agree with you.

02:16:01.000 I'm obviously playing devil's advocate.

02:16:02.000 But what was it that being on the show changed where you had this shift in your attitude about legalized prostitution?

02:16:08.000 I worried about the safety of the women that put themselves in that situation and also the safety of men that put themselves in that situation.

02:16:14.000 Because if you regulate it, you can ensure that these women are getting tested for STDs. 1.00

02:16:20.000 You don't want a bunch of people getting AIDS or other sexually transmitted diseases.

02:16:26.000 Pregnant. 0.88

02:16:27.000 A regulated industry in this case would be much better than criminalizing it and allowing people to harm themselves or Be put in a harmful situation.

02:16:38.000 And on top of that, here's another thing I don't want to do.

02:16:40.000 I don't want to waste our resources on incarcerating people for these so-called sex crimes.

02:16:45.000 Because I don't see prostitution as a sex crime.

02:16:48.000 I see it as normal human behavior.

02:16:51.000 People want sex. 0.97

02:16:52.000 Some people, unfortunately, have to pay for sex. 1.00

02:16:54.000 But if that transaction has to happen, let it happen.

02:16:57.000 Let it be regulated.

02:16:58.000 Let's get it off the streets and put it in a place that's safer, that's just better for society.

02:17:06.000 No, that's a totally rational way of looking at it.

02:17:09.000 Unfortunately, we have this weird attitude when it comes to sexuality.

02:17:13.000 And we have this weird attitude when it comes to naked people.

02:17:15.000 I mean, you remember that Janet Jackson thing? 0.99

02:17:17.000 We showed a nipple in the Super Bowl and everybody lost their fucking mind? 0.99

02:17:20.000 Yep, I remember. 1.00

02:17:21.000 We're really weird in that way.

02:17:23.000 It's okay to give someone a massage.

02:17:24.000 You could rub their feet till the cows come home with oil.

02:17:28.000 You could rub them, they could moan out loud.

02:17:30.000 Oh my god, this feels so good.

02:17:32.000 Nobody has a problem with it.

02:17:33.000 Rub my back, rub my... 1.00

02:17:34.000 But don't touch my dick. 1.00

02:17:36.000 Whoa! 1.00

02:17:36.000 That's a crime. 1.00

02:17:38.000 That's a crime.

02:17:38.000 Even though it would feel fantastic if you did.

02:17:41.000 Uh-huh.

02:17:42.000 Can't do it.

02:17:43.000 It's against the books.

02:17:44.000 Do you consider that cheating?

02:17:45.000 Like, if you are married and, um, you'd- well, you are married, but, like, if you were to go to a massage parlor and get that done, would that be considered cheating?

02:17:53.000 I definitely think it would get you in a lot of trouble.

02:17:56.000 Of course it would get you into a lot of trouble.

02:17:59.000 It seems like someone would not be happy about that, but it would be awesome if they were.

02:18:04.000 What if they wore a mask, like one of those Mexican wrestlers? 0.77

02:18:06.000 You don't even know what they look like.

02:18:08.000 You go in there with a wolfman mask on, and they can dress like a Mexican wrestler.

02:18:13.000 You don't even look at each other.

02:18:15.000 You both wear sunglasses.

02:18:17.000 It's just like a massage.

02:18:19.000 In a situation like that, it's really not that different.

02:18:22.000 That's the reason why they do it at a massage parlor. 1.00

02:18:25.000 And the real, the guys, pro tips, guys actually get a massage and then get a happy ending.

02:18:31.000 They don't just go right for the happy ending.

02:18:33.000 The legit pros, they sit there, they have a real massage first.

02:18:37.000 That's how the Japanese do it. 0.89

02:18:39.000 How does that conversation come up?

02:18:40.000 How do you find a massage parlor that is willing to do that? 1.00

02:18:44.000 There's websites.

02:18:45.000 There are!

02:18:46.000 Yes, yes.

02:18:47.000 Fascinating.

02:18:47.000 There's websites that'll tell you where the spots are and they'll rate places with stars and detail their handjob experiences.

02:18:55.000 Wow.

02:18:56.000 And of course it doesn't just stop at a handjob.

02:18:58.000 It goes further than that in some cases, right?

02:19:00.000 Allegedly.

02:19:02.000 Allegedly.

02:19:03.000 Yeah, it's one of those weird things where we've decided that people can do it for free and no one gets hurt.

02:19:11.000 But if they do it for money, It's illegal.

02:19:15.000 And the logic behind it is very weird, and the logic behind the laws are, you know, there's morality ideas, there's ethics ideas, but the reality is that money is going to be changing hands whether you like it or not,

02:19:31.000 and most likely it's not going to get taxed unless it's legal.

02:19:34.000 It's just going to move into the economy in some sort of a weird way.

02:19:39.000 But the government in that, and also in drug laws, they're fucking themselves out of massive amounts of revenue.

02:19:45.000 Oh, I know. 0.99

02:19:46.000 The war on drugs is the most colossal fucking failure of a war. 0.98

02:19:50.000 You guys, during the time you were at war, the business got bigger. 0.99

02:19:54.000 It got way huger everywhere in the world.

02:19:56.000 It's a huge part of the economy.

02:19:58.000 The business has become medical in California, 16 other states, legal in two states now, now legal in Portland, Maine.

02:20:06.000 It's the worst failure of a war ever.

02:20:08.000 It is.

02:20:09.000 And when you look at the war on drugs, specifically the war on marijuana, very little of it has to do with stopping people from using these drugs.

02:20:17.000 Most of it has to do with paying for correctional officers, paying for private prisons, Paying for private contractors, even private contractors abroad who continue to amplify the war on drugs.

02:20:31.000 People are making a ton of money off this prohibition, which is why it continues and it'll never stop.

02:20:36.000 And I love that we're seeing the snowball effect with the legalization of recreational marijuana or recreational use of marijuana.

02:20:44.000 There was recently a small town in the East Coast that legalized it.

02:20:48.000 I believe it was in Maine.

02:20:51.000 Yes, Portland, Maine.

02:20:52.000 Yeah, it was Portland, Maine.

02:20:54.000 They just legalized it. 0.99

02:20:55.000 And it was more of a symbolic thing because, of course, state laws and federal laws will trump whatever municipal laws have been passed.

02:21:03.000 But I love that now politicians are forced to pay attention to the polls and make changes because we're spending untold amounts of money just incarcerating people for simple marijuana possession.

02:21:17.000 It's hideous.

02:21:18.000 It is, and the real problem with the war on drugs being, when you have marijuana illegal, it means you're not getting that tax money from it, just like you're not getting it from prostitution.

02:21:27.000 The government doesn't get their cut.

02:21:29.000 They're not getting it.

02:21:30.000 It's going to make its way into the economy in some ways, like in BC and British Columbia, there's a huge issue because a giant chunk of their economy is based on marijuana, but yet marijuana is illegal.

02:21:41.000 They arrest people, but then let them go. 0.96

02:21:43.000 There's a lot of weird fucking games going on up there. 0.96

02:21:46.000 But because it's illegal, they're not getting their taxes from it. 0.98

02:21:49.000 It's a huge issue.

02:21:50.000 They know it's a giant...

02:21:51.000 There was a documentary that I was in called The Union, and it was all about...

02:21:55.000 That's what they call it.

02:21:55.000 They call it The Union, when they talk about all the different marijuana growers in B.C. They're a multi-billion dollar part of the economy up there.

02:22:05.000 So it's this weird hypocrisy that's going on, where you have this thing that's a huge part of why everybody's doing well, and that thing's illegal, and that thing's hurting no one.

02:22:15.000 And by the way, because it's illegal, you're not getting your cut.

02:22:18.000 Do you know about the Schaefer Report?

02:22:20.000 What's that?

02:22:21.000 Oh, I love this story.

02:22:23.000 I love telling this story.

02:22:24.000 So during the Nixon administration, Nixon wanted to commission a study on marijuana specifically.

02:22:30.000 Do you know about it?

02:22:30.000 I know about the Nixon Report.

02:22:31.000 Yeah, I didn't know it was called the Schaefer Report.

02:22:33.000 Yeah.

02:22:33.000 So he commissioned, I believe he was a governor at the time, he was a politician with the last name Schaefer, to do the study on marijuana.

02:22:39.000 So Schaefer went ahead and did it.

02:22:41.000 And he found that marijuana had no real long-term negative effects on society or human health or anything like that.

02:22:48.000 It just was not a threat to society, period. 0.73

02:22:52.000 The same freaking person who commissioned that report took it, ripped it up and said, no, I'm going to amplify the war on drugs. 0.85

02:22:59.000 I'm going to continue making this illegal. 0.97

02:23:02.000 I'm going to continue criminalizing people who have simple possession of it.

02:23:06.000 And Nixon, I mean, of course, he did a lot of hideous things, but that had so many negative ramifications in the country.

02:23:14.000 That's what led to this explosion of the for-profit prison industry.

02:23:19.000 And now that industry, first of all, I don't know why it's called for-profit or private prisons because they're funded by tax dollars.

02:23:26.000 So how are they private?

02:23:28.000 And on top of that, now we have an incentive to lock people away because these companies make money off of it.

02:23:33.000 It's sick.

02:23:34.000 Yeah, private prisons are very scary.

02:23:36.000 It's very scary that not only do you have private prisons, but you have private prison lobbies and you have guard lobbies where prison guards make sure that certain things stay illegal so that they can ensure that they have work.

02:23:49.000 That's slaves. 1.00

02:23:50.000 You're making slaves. 0.52

02:23:51.000 I mean, you want people to be locked up more than not locked up.

02:23:55.000 In my opinion, if it's not robbery or violent crime, those are the two things that I'm worried about.

02:24:00.000 Robbery or violent crime.

02:24:01.000 That's when you need to remove people from society. 0.63

02:24:04.000 Everything else should be on some sort of a penalty thing.

02:24:07.000 Yeah, like a misdemeanor citation.

02:24:09.000 I mean, what is it?

02:24:11.000 What's going on?

02:24:12.000 I mean, what did you not do?

02:24:13.000 Did you not pay your taxes?

02:24:14.000 Why do you get locked up for that?

02:24:16.000 That sounds crazy.

02:24:17.000 Don't you just owe taxes?

02:24:18.000 How about you make them pay?

02:24:20.000 Because when you lock them up, they're not even making any money.

02:24:23.000 Why are you profiting off?

02:24:24.000 How are you doing that?

02:24:25.000 You're locking them up, and that's better than getting money from them while they're working?

02:24:29.000 Well, we're doing the same thing with people who are undocumented immigrants, right? 1.00

02:24:33.000 So they'll come into this country, they're undocumented, we find out they're undocumented, and instead of deporting them, which is what we used to do, we will detain them for X amount of years and spend our resources on imprisoning them. 0.99

02:24:45.000 Which doesn't make any sense at all.

02:24:47.000 And I get it.

02:24:48.000 Okay, we want to punish them and show them you can't do this again.

02:24:52.000 But you punish them by deporting them.

02:24:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:56.000 And that's it.

02:24:57.000 Why would you want to incarcerate them and spend tax dollars on that, especially when we're having this huge issue with public education right now?

02:25:06.000 Yeah.

02:25:07.000 It's a weird little fake thing that we have going on where we pretend that LA doesn't have 10 million illegal immigrants.

02:25:14.000 We're just kind of like, well, you know, whatever.

02:25:17.000 Now they're allowed to go to college at least.

02:25:19.000 They are.

02:25:19.000 There was a long time where immigrants were, their children of immigrants, or immigrants that came over and their children were born in Mexico but lived their entire lives here in America, they weren't allowed to go to college.

02:25:30.000 I know.

02:25:31.000 So I'm happy that California passed the DREAM Act. 0.74

02:25:33.000 It's ridiculous that we haven't been able to do that on a federal level.

02:25:37.000 Absolutely. 0.97

02:25:37.000 And disgusting. 0.97

02:25:38.000 What is America if it's not a nation of immigrants? 0.98

02:25:41.000 I mean, that's all we are.

02:25:42.000 We are a bunch of people that came here from other places.

02:25:44.000 And to penalize a baby or to say that, well, you know what?

02:25:48.000 The parents, they brought the kid over here so the kid could sponge off. 1.00

02:25:51.000 The kid's a part of the fucking system, man. 1.00

02:25:52.000 Yeah, they call them anchor babies. 1.00

02:25:54.000 Yeah.

02:25:54.000 By the way, the parents are a part of the system, too.

02:25:56.000 They're working here.

02:25:57.000 Yeah.

02:25:58.000 I hate the argument that they don't pay taxes.

02:26:01.000 In a lot of cases, especially in California, I mean, they pay taxes in the form of, first of all, they pay Social Security, but then they never get a dime of that Social Security later, right?

02:26:10.000 So they're contributing to the Social Security system.

02:26:12.000 And on top of that, they're paying for state taxes as well, or sales taxes.

02:26:16.000 So they do pay taxes.

02:26:18.000 They do contribute to society.

02:26:19.000 And I'm not trying to make excuses or to...

02:26:23.000 Justify coming into the country illegally.

02:26:26.000 But if you've been here for decades and you've had your children here, we need to create some sort of comprehensive immigration reform. 0.65

02:26:35.000 And right now we have clowns in office that can't seem to agree on anything and refuse to work with one another.

02:26:41.000 So I feel like it's going to be difficult for that to happen. 0.65

02:26:43.000 But I feel like something like the DREAM Act is common sense.

02:26:47.000 It shouldn't even be a political issue.

02:26:49.000 It shouldn't be a partisan issue.

02:26:51.000 You should just do it.

02:26:53.000 Yeah, I completely wholeheartedly agree.

02:26:56.000 And I think there's also this weird thing where we're connected to a third world country by a fence.

02:27:00.000 I mean, we are right next door to the biggest war on drugs in all of the world playing out on our border.

02:27:08.000 And then right across there you have intense extreme poverty.

02:27:12.000 If you take a car from San Diego, you can go from La Jolla where you have the most elegant cliff-top mansions that will blow your mind.

02:27:20.000 Just these great Gatsby houses where you're like, oh my goodness! 0.98

02:27:23.000 Like this fucking giant circular driveway with an enormous fountain. 1.00

02:27:28.000 What a house! 1.00

02:27:29.000 In 20 minutes, you're in Tijuana.

02:27:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:27:32.000 20 fucking minutes. 0.99

02:27:33.000 And you might just get there while these cartel members are dropping off headless bodies and lining them up on the street with signs on them. 1.00

02:27:39.000 Or, you know, you might see a brothel where you can go fuck some immigrant for a dollar that made their way up from El Salvador or Peru or, you know, where Mexico is the promised land for them. 1.00

02:27:51.000 They're hoping to get to Mexico. 0.99

02:27:53.000 That's amazing.

02:27:53.000 Because they're living in the jungle somewhere in Ecuador.

02:27:56.000 I mean, it's...

02:27:57.000 The extreme intense poverty and extreme intense violence and we're just sort of like not dealing with it.

02:28:04.000 We're not dealing with it, but we're actually fueling that type of system here in the United States.

02:28:09.000 By keeping marijuana legal, we certainly are.

02:28:12.000 By keeping marijuana legal and also through our current fiscal policy, you know, by allowing companies like Walmart To basically pay full-time employees so little that the government has to subsidize their health care or food stamps,

02:28:28.000 whatever it is, just so they can make ends meet.

02:28:30.000 We have that system here now, and we need to do something to change it.

02:28:35.000 Well, it's exactly what they were protesting about during the WTO thing.

02:28:37.000 It goes all back to Alex Jones!

02:28:39.000 I told you, Joe Rogan!

02:28:42.000 That's what he was, his document, I think it was 9-1-1, A Road to Tyranny.

02:28:47.000 It was all about that.

02:28:48.000 It was all about how this is like an established pattern of behavior and, you know, this agent provocateur thing that they do to break up peaceful protests.

02:28:56.000 The World Trade Organization meeting was just about that very thing.

02:28:59.000 It was about moving jobs to these other places and figuring out how to set up shop in third world countries.

02:29:05.000 You can pay people dirt wages.

02:29:06.000 Yeah.

02:29:07.000 Yeah, I don't know how that's going to get fixed.

02:29:09.000 When you cover this stuff on a daily basis, you guys are covering more serious issues than we are.

02:29:16.000 We're basically just fucking around and finding things on the internet that I find are interesting.

02:29:20.000 But you guys are covering some pretty legit stories and getting pretty...

02:29:24.000 Do you see any light at the end of the tunnel?

02:29:26.000 Do you see a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow for all this?

02:29:29.000 I do see a light at the end of the tunnel, but we really need a revolution.

02:29:34.000 And I'm not calling for violence and I'm not inciting violence, but I think that there has to come a point where we hit rock bottom and the political activism actually makes a difference.

02:29:46.000 You know, the political activism needs to exist to begin with, by the way, because it doesn't even exist now.

02:29:51.000 I mean, we're at a point where the government can literally do whatever it wants and no one will make a peep out of it.

02:29:57.000 The NSA can spy on us. 0.97

02:29:58.000 The Obama administration can go drop a drone or do a drone strike on an American citizen and his 16-year-old son, and no one will say a Damn thing about it. 0.97

02:30:10.000 That's the country we're living in right now. 0.91

02:30:12.000 Our civil liberties are being destroyed.

02:30:13.000 Our fiscal policy doesn't make sense.

02:30:16.000 We need people to be politically active, and we need to get money out of politics.

02:30:19.000 Those are the two things that matter the most.

02:30:22.000 Do you think there's also the aspect of the amount of information that we're getting overwhelmed with on a daily basis?

02:30:28.000 When you think about a story about the American citizen that was targeted, that was the...

02:30:33.000 Anwar al-Waki.

02:30:35.000 Jihadi guy.

02:30:35.000 Yeah.

02:30:35.000 And they killed his son with drones.

02:30:38.000 And, you know, he was an American.

02:30:39.000 I mean, they didn't try him.

02:30:41.000 They just assassinated him.

02:30:43.000 Is there too many stories coming in? 0.99

02:30:44.000 I mean, go to CNN.com right now and you'll see a fucking million of them on the front page. 0.95

02:30:48.000 You know, go to Yahoo. 0.99

02:30:50.000 Go to all these news sites and you're like, God damn. 0.99

02:30:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:30:54.000 That's part of the problem. 0.99

02:30:56.000 But I mean, most of these stories are important news stories. 0.99

02:30:59.000 Yeah, there's a lot of bullshit sprinkled in there. 0.97

02:31:01.000 But a huge problem is, you know, every American... 0.99

02:31:05.000 I have the luxury of keeping up with this stuff because it's my job.

02:31:09.000 A lot of Americans don't have that luxury because they're working 12-hour work days.

02:31:14.000 You know, they're working a few different jobs just to provide for their families.

02:31:18.000 Who the hell is going to go home after a long day of work, sit down and read all of these news stories, much less understand the nuance of these news stories?

02:31:28.000 That's a difficult thing to do, and it's a lot to ask of the American people.

02:31:31.000 But the way that you can fix that is by creating a media, a form of media that That is informative with no corporate interest.

02:31:41.000 Because right now, the gold standard of news is still the MSNBC, CNN, Fox News.

02:31:46.000 It's the stuff that you just turn on.

02:31:48.000 You watch it in the background while you're trying to feed your kids and take care of your family.

02:31:52.000 And that's problematic because a lot of those networks will spread misinformation or they have a particular agenda.

02:31:59.000 And as a result, they will only cover the news that fits their agenda.

02:32:02.000 And there's an issue with that.

02:32:04.000 But hopefully new media will grow to the point where it'll take over that system and it'll, you know, educate people enough to where they will want to stand up for their rights and they will want to be politically active.

02:32:15.000 I'm teaching a class at Cal State Northridge right now.

02:32:18.000 It's a journalism class.

02:32:19.000 Prepare for stalkers.

02:32:21.000 Stalkers are coming.

02:32:22.000 I have private security.

02:32:23.000 It'll be fine.

02:32:24.000 Good move.

02:32:25.000 I'm going to double up on that now.

02:32:26.000 My people are ferocious.

02:32:28.000 And I remember when I first started teaching the class, I asked every single one of the students to tell me what they find most interesting in media.

02:32:37.000 What do they want to cover?

02:32:38.000 What's their beat?

02:32:39.000 And the vast majority of them were like, entertainment news, sports news, you know, stuff that's really easy to cover and very profitable.

02:32:46.000 So I don't blame them for wanting to do that.

02:32:48.000 But I wanted to instill in them a type of intellectual curiosity where they would want to know about what's going on in the political world, where they would want to be these mini political activists.

02:32:59.000 And I don't do it in the sense that I tell them, hey, you got to be progressive.

02:33:03.000 I definitely shy away from that.

02:33:05.000 But I want them to look at news stories critically and And question the way that they're being covered.

02:33:10.000 So that's like my little tiny bit of trying to make a difference, and I love doing that.

02:33:16.000 Being an instructor at a university is a very thankless job.

02:33:19.000 I've learned that this semester since it's my first time doing it.

02:33:22.000 But you've got to start by changing the way people learn about journalism, changing the way they cover stories, and you've got to get people to be critical thinkers.

02:33:33.000 Or at least try to inspire them.

02:33:35.000 It's really tough to get someone to do anything.

02:33:38.000 It is.

02:33:38.000 It is tough.

02:33:39.000 But I will say, I open every class with a production meeting.

02:33:42.000 We do mock production meetings, similar to what you would do in a newsroom.

02:33:45.000 And the type of stories that they pitch now...

02:33:48.000 Are very different from what they started pitching in the beginning of the semester.

02:33:52.000 So they're way more politically minded, which I love.

02:33:55.000 All of a sudden they're bringing up the Glenn Greenwald, Edward Snowden type stories.

02:33:58.000 And I'm like, yes!

02:34:00.000 Like, that's a little bit of a difference.

02:34:02.000 And it makes me very happy. 0.96

02:34:03.000 Do you feel like, because, I mean, you do this for a living, but do you think that you can even keep up with all the shit that's happening on a daily basis? 0.98

02:34:11.000 No. 0.95

02:34:11.000 No, I do it for a living. 0.95

02:34:12.000 So how does a regular person?

02:34:13.000 It's difficult.

02:34:14.000 It's difficult.

02:34:15.000 How can they?

02:34:16.000 I mean, it's almost impossible to be informed today.

02:34:19.000 It's almost impossible.

02:34:20.000 Are they truly informed?

02:34:21.000 I don't think it's impossible.

02:34:23.000 I think it's overwhelming, but I don't think it's impossible.

02:34:27.000 As a responsibility, how much do you have a responsibility to be informed? 0.99

02:34:30.000 Not you, but a regular person with a regular job and a family, and God forbid if you have a fucking hobby.

02:34:36.000 But if you're working on something during the day, what are the odds that you can pay attention to the top ten news stories of the day and form a really clear opinion on any of them? 0.98

02:34:46.000 Very difficult. 1.00

02:34:47.000 We're fucked! 1.00

02:34:48.000 Too many hours. 1.00

02:34:49.000 It's very difficult.

02:34:49.000 But you know what?

02:34:50.000 Here's the thing, and people are not going to like what I'm about to say.

02:34:54.000 Uh-oh.

02:34:54.000 Everyone loves distractions.

02:34:56.000 Like, how much time do we spend on social media?

02:34:59.000 How much time do we spend watching reality shows?

02:35:01.000 And doing things that we want to do because we just want to shut our brains off.

02:35:05.000 We want to numb ourselves to what's going on in the world, right?

02:35:08.000 Instead of doing that, maybe we should change the culture so people will want to use that very precious time and that very precious resource to be informed.

02:35:16.000 They want to use it for that as opposed to being distracted.

02:35:20.000 I think the problem that people have with...

02:35:23.000 Being informed over being distracted is that it's incredibly frustrating and you feel helpless. 0.90

02:35:28.000 When you start reading all these stories about the stock market manipulations, about the banks being bailed out and about bailouts where the fucking people that were involved in the bailout somehow or another warranted some crazy commission.

02:35:41.000 They got some bonus and then the president says he's going to limit to a half a million dollars. 0.99

02:35:46.000 A fucking half a million dollars is a lot of money, man. 0.99

02:35:48.000 What do you mean you're limiting it to a half a million? 0.99

02:35:50.000 Didn't we just give them a ton of money? 1.00

02:35:51.000 You feel helpless when you read about this shit over and over and over again. 0.99

02:35:55.000 When you watch documentaries on fracking, when you read stories in the news about how poorly veterans are being taken care of when they come back from war. 0.99

02:36:05.000 There's so many different things that you read that doesn't make sense.

02:36:09.000 I know, but when you look at all of these news stories, there's always one underlying issue in every news story.

02:36:16.000 It's kind of amazing.

02:36:17.000 And it always goes back to who is funding these politicians, right?

02:36:23.000 If you get the money out of politics, that virus, if you destroy that virus, things will change quickly because our representatives will be forced to pay attention to the American people, the people that are voting for them, as opposed to the people who are paying them.

02:36:37.000 If you get rid of that type of bribery that we're dealing with right now, the entire system needs to be changed.

02:36:44.000 Unquestionably, but how does that ever happen?

02:36:47.000 You have to get them to change it themselves as well.

02:36:51.000 How else is it going to change?

02:36:53.000 Well, here's the thing. 0.94

02:36:54.000 Congress is obviously very corrupt. 0.92

02:36:57.000 How dare you? 0.93

02:36:58.000 This is Congress of America!

02:37:01.000 They're obviously very much bought by corporations, and as a result, it's really difficult for them to propose any real change.

02:37:09.000 But when it comes to the state level, when it comes to state legislators, it's a little different.

02:37:13.000 So we actually managed to get a state representative from Texas to propose a resolution for a constitutional convention.

02:37:20.000 It goes back to what I was saying earlier about Wolfpack.

02:37:23.000 And if we get state representatives from all the states to agree to this constitutional convention, Then we can actually have this constitutional amendment to get money out of politics.

02:37:34.000 It's possible!

02:37:36.000 We just need to inform people about it.

02:37:38.000 Wolf-PAC.com Wolf-pack.com.

02:37:42.000 Get on it.

02:37:42.000 Well, I hope you're right and I'm very hopeful.

02:37:46.000 I think that it's incredibly difficult to get venom out of the system.

02:37:51.000 Once it's in there, it's in there pretty deep.

02:37:54.000 It's going to be very hard to heal this poisoned system.

02:37:58.000 And the people that are accustomed to extracting money, that's a giant part of their motivation for being in the position when they're in the first place.

02:38:07.000 Now all of a sudden they're there and they can't extract money anymore? 0.99

02:38:10.000 They're going to go, what kind of hippie bullshit is this? 1.00

02:38:14.000 All of a sudden, they're going to have to pay attention to the people that voted for them. 1.00

02:38:17.000 That's crazy.

02:38:18.000 They get to a point where they can't do that anymore.

02:38:20.000 I think that's one of the things that we need is we need new young politicians.

02:38:24.000 I think that's hugely, hugely important until that happens.

02:38:28.000 And principled politicians.

02:38:29.000 I mean, you'll have some candidates Who will run a campaign and they're genuine in how they want to change the system.

02:38:37.000 I think Obama is an example of that.

02:38:39.000 I think he was genuine to begin with.

02:38:41.000 And then they enter the system and they're corrupted by what we have to deal with.

02:38:45.000 They're corrupted by the money in politics.

02:38:48.000 I mean, what are you going to do?

02:38:50.000 At the end of the day, you got to run for re-election.

02:38:53.000 You need the funds, right?

02:38:55.000 And you're going to get the funds from corporations.

02:38:57.000 And then you have to basically get down on your knees and do whatever the corporations need you to do.

02:39:02.000 That's my opinion.

02:39:03.000 I'm with you on this.

02:39:04.000 But I talked to Sam Harris, who I respect very...

02:39:07.000 Greatly.

02:39:07.000 And his opinion is very different.

02:39:09.000 He believes that there's so many dangerous people in the world that Obama got into office, then immediately realized how fucking scary the world is, and then started tightening down drone attacks, cut down on whistleblowers, surveillance ups,

02:39:25.000 all the things that he did once he got into office.

02:39:27.000 What explains that, his reversal on Guantanamo Bay.

02:39:30.000 He believes that it's because the stack of papers that he gets on his desk every day of memos telling them what's been avoided, how fucked up the world is, what dangers we're facing on a regular basis, who we need to attack before they attack us, that they're just trying to avoid another 9-11.

02:39:46.000 I don't know if I'm really buying that argument.

02:39:49.000 I think that we have this military-industrial complex, and I think that Obama does not want to seem weak when it comes to national security.

02:39:57.000 So as a result, he will do things that are extreme.

02:40:00.000 I mean, if you're really concerned about national security, it's very curious for you to go about keeping the country safe.

02:40:06.000 by causing so much hostility toward the U.S. Think about that.

02:40:11.000 We are bombing and doing drone strikes on innocent civilians abroad.

02:40:16.000 That creates hostility toward the United States.

02:40:19.000 That makes people want to attack us.

02:40:22.000 So, I mean, I'm not really buying that, you know, Obama got in and he got scared.

02:40:27.000 I think that people are making money off what's going on abroad right now.

02:40:30.000 And I think that Obama is worried about seeming weak to Republicans.

02:40:35.000 I mean, when you look at almost all of his policies, He's always been so afraid of Republicans, which drives me crazy.

02:40:41.000 The only thing that he's really had a good stance on was gay marriage.

02:40:45.000 And that was after, what, years of being president?

02:40:48.000 He finally came out and said, yeah, I guess I've changed my mind.

02:40:52.000 Civil unions aren't enough. 1.00

02:40:53.000 We should have same-sex marriage.

02:40:55.000 Well, if you really believe that, then we should do something on the federal level.

02:40:59.000 This is not a states' rights issue.

02:41:00.000 This is a federal issue.

02:41:01.000 This is a civil rights issue.

02:41:03.000 I feel like gay rights and gay marriage is one of those beach balls they toss up at a concert. 0.88

02:41:08.000 Totally.

02:41:08.000 Everybody has to keep in the air because it keeps everybody distracted.

02:41:11.000 Gay marriage! 0.91

02:41:12.000 Oh, not my turn! 1.00

02:41:13.000 And they keep bouncing this stupid beach ball around. 1.00

02:41:16.000 And politicians are now using it for political gain, which is really frustrating. 1.00

02:41:21.000 You know what I mean?

02:41:22.000 It's, oh, look, it turns out that the majority of Americans are in favor of gay rights, so let's change our stance on that.

02:41:28.000 They're not principled.

02:41:29.000 And in that case, it's a good thing because I want gay rights.

02:41:32.000 But I just, politicians will be politicians, you know, and a lot of them lack principle. 0.98

02:41:38.000 Well, it's always been said that it's like politics are show business for ugly people.

02:41:43.000 And actors are notorious for sticking their finger in the air and finding out which way the wind blows culturally.

02:41:49.000 And then saying things that they don't necessarily believe in or necessarily have even researched.

02:41:55.000 And that's hugely common when you're on sets. 0.98

02:41:58.000 There's always these dumb bimbo actors that have opinions and males more than females, bimbo males. 1.00

02:42:05.000 And they'll have these opinions on something political or what the Democrats want. 1.00

02:42:09.000 It's like, what the fuck are you even talking about? 1.00

02:42:11.000 You're talking nonsense, dude. 1.00

02:42:13.000 Did you just read a front page article in Salon for five seconds and now all of a sudden you're going to tell us what's wrong with the world?

02:42:20.000 What they do is try to appear liberal.

02:42:23.000 They try to appear progressive.

02:42:24.000 Because they're not even human.

02:42:26.000 But there are some weird form. 1.00

02:42:28.000 They're like a mole that can grab human flesh and fucking fake it. 0.98

02:42:33.000 And they can walk through life pretending to have regular emotions and regular feelings. 1.00

02:42:38.000 Meanwhile, they're just trying to get people to give them the next job.

02:42:41.000 Trying to get people to like them enough to cast them in the next TV show or movie or whatever.

02:42:45.000 They're barely even alive.

02:42:47.000 They're these weirdos.

02:42:48.000 And I think politicians are very much the same way.

02:42:51.000 Obviously, this is a massive generalization.

02:42:52.000 This is not all actors.

02:42:54.000 I met a lot of cool actors. 0.98

02:42:55.000 But I have met a lot of fucking weirdos that are like Stepford Wives. 1.00

02:42:58.000 They're like robot people. 1.00

02:42:59.000 They're like some weirdo who's just trying to be whatever works.

02:43:03.000 Whatever pants work. 1.00

02:43:04.000 Do I have to have fake rips on my jeans?

02:43:06.000 What's the new thing?

02:43:08.000 Should I wear a nose ring?

02:43:09.000 No.

02:43:09.000 Nose rings are out.

02:43:10.000 I mean, they're on the fucking whatever the edge is. 0.98

02:43:13.000 Everyone's wearing what everybody else is wearing. 0.93

02:43:15.000 Do you remember when those Von Dutch hats were going around? 1.00

02:43:18.000 And they had those fucking stupid trucker hats. 1.00

02:43:20.000 And you're like, what are you doing? 1.00

02:43:22.000 You have a fucking stupid trucker hat on. 1.00

02:43:25.000 And everybody's got them. 1.00

02:43:26.000 I just thought of Ashton Kutcher.

02:43:27.000 Anytime I think of trucker hats, I think of Ashton Kutcher.

02:43:30.000 He was a young man at the time.

02:43:31.000 I don't fault him.

02:43:32.000 But I think it's that sort of a thing where you get that in politics as well.

02:43:37.000 You get a human that's not even really a human.

02:43:39.000 What they are is this thing that's leaning towards whatever pole, gravity or the wind or the wind.

02:43:47.000 The rush of the water beneath their feet. 0.99

02:43:49.000 Whatever the fuck it is, it's pulling them one direction or another. 0.96

02:43:51.000 There's no stability. 0.99

02:43:52.000 There's no base.

02:43:53.000 There's no real ethics. 1.00

02:43:54.000 And when they do have ethics, they look fucking crazy. 1.00

02:43:57.000 They look like Ron Paul. 1.00

02:43:58.000 They look like some nutty dude.

02:44:00.000 They look like some Gary Johnson from New Mexico. 0.79

02:44:02.000 Some fringe character.

02:44:04.000 Well, I mean, I think there have been politicians in the past who had ethics and people will look down on them.

02:44:10.000 But a perfect example of a politician that actually gets a lot of respect is Elizabeth Warren. 1.00

02:44:15.000 If Elizabeth Warren ran for president, I'd be like, Hillary who? 1.00

02:44:19.000 You know, like she's an amazing person who actually stood up to the banks when it was an unpopular thing to do. 0.99

02:44:26.000 And also, in this current system, it's political suicide because these are the assholes that are supposed to fund your campaigns, right? 0.99

02:44:34.000 Right. 0.99

02:44:34.000 So, Elizabeth Warren, you know, is an incredible senator. 0.99

02:44:37.000 I don't think that she's actually going to run for president, but people are becoming more and more open to We're good to go.

02:44:52.000 We're good to go.

02:45:02.000 But they're like, yeah, at least he's honest.

02:45:04.000 All right, you know, maybe we'll vote for him again.

02:45:06.000 Yeah, he did say that he smoked crack.

02:45:08.000 He was pretty honest about it. 0.92

02:45:09.000 But if you look at a guy that's that fat, he's this giant moon face. 0.60

02:45:13.000 Like, he's wild. 0.63

02:45:14.000 He's going to do anything.

02:45:15.000 He's so indulgent.

02:45:16.000 You know, look what he's doing with food.

02:45:18.000 Look what he's doing to his body.

02:45:20.000 You think he's scared of some crack?

02:45:21.000 That guy's not scared of anything.

02:45:23.000 He'll smoke some crack.

02:45:25.000 Yeah, I think that one of the things that this shift that's happening with information, one of the things that's going to be very fascinating about this erosion of privacy is that you're going to get real honest politicians because they have no choice.

02:45:40.000 Exactly.

02:45:41.000 You know, what's amazing though is you'll have politicians that are on the record saying one thing and then like a few months later they backpedal or they say something or flip-flop and they say something completely different and they deny that they did a flip-flop.

02:45:53.000 And it's like Mitt Romney is an example of that.

02:45:56.000 There was evidence indicating that Mitt Romney supported Planned Parenthood.

02:45:59.000 And then when he was running for president, he's like, I will shut Planned Parenthood down.

02:46:03.000 It's like, you're on the record, dude.

02:46:05.000 There's evidence.

02:46:06.000 Are you unaware of the internet and how it holds you accountable to what you've done and said in the past?

02:46:14.000 Well, Mitt Romney is still in denial that he's a first-generation Mexican.

02:46:17.000 Yeah.

02:46:17.000 He's still in denial of his family living over in Mexico.

02:46:20.000 Remember he was talking about that very briefly during the campaign, that his father actually was born in Mexico and everybody was like, what?

02:46:28.000 And then you get deep into it and you find like, oh, your dad was in a sex cult.

02:46:33.000 Oh, wow. 0.96

02:46:36.000 Mitt Romney was a character.

02:46:38.000 He still is.

02:46:39.000 Yeah, he was governor of Massachusetts for a long time.

02:46:42.000 People loved him, did a good job.

02:46:43.000 Some people loved him.

02:46:44.000 Yeah, I mean, he had health care in Massachusetts that's very similar to the Affordable Care Act, and then he went off and started criticizing the Affordable Care Act.

02:46:54.000 It's, like, amazing to me. 0.99

02:46:56.000 Yeah, he would have fucked up as soon as he got in office, too. 0.99

02:46:58.000 I think all of them, once they get in there, they just get taken down. 0.99

02:47:03.000 They get sat down and they get spelled out how the world really works.

02:47:09.000 And they probably have hints of it before they actually get in there.

02:47:12.000 But once they get in there and they meet with the fucking Bilderberg Group and they meet with the international bankers that control the world's economy and they just realize the depth of the puzzle, that's why they all go gray, like instantly. 0.87

02:47:24.000 Oh yeah, Obama has aged so much. 0.97

02:47:27.000 It's kind of incredible.

02:47:28.000 Wouldn't it be amazing if he did an Eisenhower-type final speech?

02:47:34.000 When Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex.

02:47:39.000 If Obama warned about the military-industrial complex, that would be very funny.

02:47:44.000 If he got on TV and just said, listen, I've been bullshitting you people for eight years. 1.00

02:47:49.000 This system is fucking crazy. 1.00

02:47:51.000 Move to Canada. 1.00

02:47:53.000 Move to Canada.

02:47:53.000 Move to Hawaii.

02:47:55.000 I'm going back there, too.

02:47:57.000 He never would, though.

02:47:58.000 Even though he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected again, Democrats are holding him accountable.

02:48:04.000 They don't want to look bad because they want to make sure another Democrat gets elected.

02:48:07.000 And it's all BS. It's the same.

02:48:10.000 As long as our system is dealing with that virus, as long as our system has the money in politics, it doesn't matter if you're voting for a Democrat or a Republican.

02:48:18.000 It's the same at the end of the day.

02:48:20.000 They might be different with social issues.

02:48:22.000 They might be a little different when it comes to fiscal policy, although Obama is not a good example of him being different when it comes to fiscal policy.

02:48:30.000 They're not different when it comes to international policy.

02:48:34.000 I'm a little happier when a Democrat's in office because of what I think they do socially.

02:48:40.000 When it comes to things like gay marriage or things like right to choose and things along those lines.

02:48:46.000 I feel like when you have a Republican in office, those things tend to get squashed.

02:48:52.000 And I think that's one of the benefits of having a Democrat in office. 0.64

02:48:57.000 You get more equality, especially when you're dealing with a Democrat who also happens to be black.

02:49:01.000 I think it's good socially.

02:49:03.000 But then when you look at what he's done in comparison to what Bush has done, man, it's real similar. 0.97

02:49:09.000 It's hard to tell the difference between a Democrat and a Republican, other than the healthcare issue, which seems to be a clusterfuck. 0.98

02:49:16.000 But I would imagine everything that you get started from scratch is a clusterfuck. 0.99

02:49:20.000 I don't know why anybody would think that it wouldn't be a clusterfuck. 0.88

02:49:23.000 Yeah, look, the one thing that I just don't understand is why everyone's panicking about the website.

02:49:29.000 The website keeps crashing.

02:49:31.000 Whatever.

02:49:32.000 They'll figure it out.

02:49:33.000 It'll be fine.

02:49:33.000 Get the porn guys to figure it out.

02:49:34.000 Those guys get six billion hits a day and they're up.

02:49:37.000 That's the problem that the Obama administration didn't think about.

02:49:41.000 They just hired the wrong people. 0.80

02:49:42.000 They should hire porn people. 1.00

02:49:43.000 When was the last time you went to a porn website and it crashed because too many people were on it? 1.00

02:49:47.000 That shit never happened. 0.94

02:49:48.000 I'm not saying that you go to porn websites, but I'm saying anybody out there, perverts, you weirdos, have you ever gone to one and you found out there's too many people on the server crashed? 0.99

02:49:55.000 That doesn't happen.

02:49:56.000 They figure out how to make that work.

02:49:58.000 And I guarantee you way more people are going to a porn site than are going to any government site.

02:50:03.000 Right.

02:50:04.000 Whether it's Obamacare or Medicare or whatever.

02:50:07.000 Name the site.

02:50:08.000 So the one thing that I will agree on in terms of it being a clusterfuck is only 50,000 Americans have signed up through the website, which could be disastrous.

02:50:19.000 Because in order for the Affordable Care Act to work, you need people to sign up. 0.98

02:50:22.000 Yeah, I have doubled that on my Instagram page, bitch. 1.00

02:50:26.000 Do you? 0.99

02:50:27.000 That's amazing.

02:50:28.000 No, it's not that much.

02:50:29.000 There's people with millions.

02:50:30.000 Yeah, there are.

02:50:31.000 More than a million on Twitter.

02:50:33.000 That's the most places I have.

02:50:34.000 Twitter, I think I have.

02:50:35.000 Yeah, you have a ton of followers on Twitter.

02:50:37.000 1,175,682.

02:50:40.000 That's bananas.

02:50:41.000 That's a lot.

02:50:42.000 I think I have like 40. But I'm sure a lot of them are fake.

02:50:45.000 I haven't ever paid for any that are fake, but there's a lot of bots out there and a lot of people that use fake Twitter accounts to inflate things.

02:50:54.000 They do, yeah.

02:50:54.000 I don't want to do that.

02:50:55.000 I don't want to pretend as if I'm a big superstar or something.

02:50:58.000 There's a lot of people that have done it, though.

02:51:00.000 It's pretty common.

02:51:01.000 Apparently, it's pretty easy to do.

02:51:02.000 You just pay some money and they get you X amount of fake followers.

02:51:05.000 I think for some people, it gives them some sort of confirmation that they're okay.

02:51:11.000 They say, they just got 25,000 Twitter followers.

02:51:14.000 They must be legit.

02:51:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:51:16.000 Yeah. 0.95

02:51:16.000 It's so funny because, you know, going back to the class that I'm teaching, one of my students looked me up and she's like, holy shit, you have all these followers and you're verified. 0.95

02:51:25.000 I'm like, oh, does that make me more legitimate now because I have like a verified Twitter account? 0.84

02:51:30.000 But people think it's a big deal.

02:51:32.000 It's really funny.

02:51:32.000 Yeah, it's big.

02:51:33.000 Well, it's big. 0.85

02:51:34.000 If someone says, hey man, I want to come on your podcast, and I go to their page and they have 212 Twitter followers, I'm like, bitch, 212 followers. 0.91

02:51:43.000 That's true.

02:51:43.000 So you took a look at my Twitter page?

02:51:45.000 No, I didn't.

02:51:46.000 I've just seen your show.

02:51:47.000 I assumed you're legit.

02:51:48.000 Okay, good.

02:51:49.000 I didn't go to your Twitter page.

02:51:50.000 But we can go there right now.

02:51:51.000 What do you got?

02:51:52.000 How much you got?

02:51:52.000 Let me check this out.

02:51:53.000 I think 42,000.

02:51:55.000 Is that a lot?

02:51:56.000 I don't think so.

02:51:57.000 I think that's decent.

02:51:58.000 How long have you been on The Young Turks?

02:51:59.000 Ugh, gosh, for seven years.

02:52:01.000 Yeah, that's not enough.

02:52:02.000 You need more Twitter followers. 1.00

02:52:04.000 What you need to do is show my little ass. 1.00

02:52:06.000 Oh, is that what I need to do? 1.00

02:52:07.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:52:08.000 Should I take the titty pictures that you were referring to earlier?

02:52:10.000 No, you don't have to go titty. 0.99

02:52:10.000 Just take some pictures with you in a bikini, looking over your shoulder at your butt. 0.99

02:52:18.000 Those are huge. 0.97

02:52:19.000 Just one of those.

02:52:20.000 You don't want to do that, obviously.

02:52:22.000 People out there are screaming at me right now.

02:52:24.000 This is why we need feminism! 1.00

02:52:27.000 Assholes like you! 1.00

02:52:29.000 Do you get shit for saying that you don't like radical feminism? 1.00

02:52:32.000 Do you ever get people angry at you for... 1.00

02:52:34.000 No.

02:52:34.000 The funny thing is a lot of people think that I am a radical feminist, which I'm not.

02:52:39.000 Well, any girl that's smart is a feminist instantly. 1.00

02:52:41.000 Yeah, it's really funny.

02:52:42.000 I'm actually...

02:52:43.000 I think the word feminism is tainted at this point. 1.00

02:52:46.000 And I would much rather refer to myself as a gender equality...

02:52:53.000 Specialist.

02:52:53.000 Specialist, I guess.

02:52:54.000 Diversification tool.

02:52:55.000 Whatever.

02:52:55.000 I mean, whatever you want to call it.

02:52:56.000 Because, look, men get the short end of the stick when it comes to some serious issues.

02:53:00.000 Women get the short end of the stick when it comes to serious issues. 1.00

02:53:03.000 I don't like the brand of feminism that tells me that I can't be feminine. 1.00

02:53:07.000 I fucking hate that. 0.97

02:53:08.000 Like, I want to wear my dresses and I want to feel sexy and beautiful and I want to push for equality. 0.99

02:53:13.000 You can do that.

02:53:14.000 Those things are not mutually exclusive.

02:53:16.000 So, that's just an example.

02:53:18.000 They are if you look like Fred Flintstone.

02:53:19.000 You don't like wearing makeup.

02:53:21.000 They probably will.

02:53:22.000 That's when they become mutually exclusive.

02:53:23.000 Well, I think it's one of those things where there's certain people that don't want other people behaving differently than them.

02:53:30.000 Especially if they feel like they're being judged by the fact that you're wearing makeup and you have heels on and they don't like that, then they get judged.

02:53:37.000 Well, then they start turning that against you.

02:53:39.000 Instead of saying, look, hey, it's different strokes for different folks.

02:53:42.000 Exactly.

02:53:43.000 Some people like this, some people like that.

02:53:44.000 Instead of that, they look to you like you're some sort of a traitor.

02:53:48.000 Meanwhile, those same people, if it was a man that was wearing makeup and wearing a dress, wearing high heels, they would go, you go, girl.

02:53:55.000 They would be happy for you because that's the progressive move.

02:53:59.000 If it's a transgender person, a man who became a woman and wants to wear long nails and wants to be really dainty and feminine, that's all well and groovy. 0.99

02:54:08.000 Yeah, but when a woman is dainty and feminine. 1.00

02:54:10.000 Exactly.

02:54:11.000 Hilarious.

02:54:12.000 The argument that they'll make is, well, if you don't want to be objectified, then don't objectify yourself.

02:54:17.000 It's not objectifying.

02:54:18.000 I don't find it objectifying.

02:54:20.000 Just because I'm wearing something that's considered sexy doesn't mean that I'm Asking people to objectify me.

02:54:26.000 And if people do, then that's on them. 0.99

02:54:28.000 Like, it's kind of like saying, you know, if a woman dresses sexy, then she deserves to get raped. 1.00

02:54:34.000 She should expect to get raped, right? 1.00

02:54:36.000 No, like a woman who dresses sexy shouldn't expect someone to do anything. 1.00

02:54:41.000 I don't think you should expect to get objectified ever.

02:54:44.000 What does objectify even mean?

02:54:46.000 If someone is attracted to you physically, are they objectifying you?

02:54:49.000 If they want to look at you while they have sex with you, are they objectifying you?

02:54:52.000 When they find you sexy, where's the gradient?

02:54:56.000 What's the spectrum where it falls into objectification of women? 1.00

02:54:59.000 If you're not profiting off of her, are you objectifying her?

02:55:04.000 Where's the gray area?

02:55:05.000 It's kind of a strange thing.

02:55:06.000 If someone likes the way you look in a dress, are they objectifying you?

02:55:11.000 How is that objectifying?

02:55:13.000 It's just a fashion sense or it's just an aesthetic. 0.99

02:55:17.000 It's stupid to pretend as if women don't objectify men as well. 1.00

02:55:21.000 I did it the other day when I went on a hike and there was a ton of hot guys without their shirts on. 0.99

02:55:26.000 That's human nature to objectify.

02:55:29.000 I don't like that word.

02:55:30.000 I think you're admiring.

02:55:33.000 You're attracted to.

02:55:34.000 What is objectify?

02:55:35.000 You want to turn them into an object.

02:55:36.000 It means dehumanizing them. 1.00

02:55:38.000 It means removing their humanity and using them as a fuck toy. 1.00

02:55:41.000 But that's not what you're looking to do. 1.00

02:55:43.000 That's not what you're looking to do.

02:55:44.000 You are physically attracted to someone and that's the first thing that stands out to you.

02:55:48.000 I think that it becomes wrong when that's all you see in the person, right?

02:55:52.000 When that's all that matters to you and someone's level of intellect or character means nothing.

02:55:59.000 You know what?

02:56:00.000 I don't even think that's wrong.

02:56:01.000 Really?

02:56:02.000 No. 0.99

02:56:02.000 I think if you're nice to each other and you just like dating people that are really pretty, who gives a shit? 0.99

02:56:07.000 Uh-huh. 1.00

02:56:08.000 Am I supposed to be upset at you if you have dumb friends? 1.00

02:56:10.000 No, but when you fuck dumb people, I'm supposed to get mad. 1.00

02:56:14.000 Can't you do better? 1.00

02:56:15.000 Maybe he doesn't want to do better. 1.00

02:56:16.000 Maybe he likes being around dumb friends. 1.00

02:56:18.000 Maybe he likes having a dumb girlfriend or a dumb boyfriend. 1.00

02:56:20.000 What do I give a shit? 1.00

02:56:21.000 No, no, no. 0.99

02:56:21.000 I don't care what other people do. 0.99

02:56:23.000 I don't want to be looked upon that way.

02:56:25.000 I don't want people to look at me and say, like, oh, she's just a pretty face and nothing more than that.

02:56:30.000 No one's going to do that unless they're trying to define you.

02:56:32.000 I mean, you know better than that.

02:56:33.000 How dare you?

02:56:34.000 How dare you play that game?

02:56:35.000 You know that.

02:56:36.000 That's not gonna fly.

02:56:38.000 Yeah, I think there's also an issue where people, they feel uncomfortable if they're not seen as attractive, and so they try to squash other things that people think are attractive.

02:56:52.000 They try to belittle attempts at being attractive.

02:56:58.000 I mean, I think there's an issue in that as well.

02:57:00.000 If there wasn't an issue in that, and if you're a type of person that likes wearing Chuck Taylors and loose jeans and t-shirts, what do you care if a woman is wearing a bikini on a beach?

02:57:09.000 What do you care if someone wears a miniskirt?

02:57:11.000 How does that affect you?

02:57:13.000 It doesn't affect you.

02:57:14.000 I think competition, jealousy, all of that kind of plays a role in that as well. 0.92

02:57:18.000 It exposes douchebags.

02:57:20.000 It's excellent at that. 1.00

02:57:21.000 It exposes asshole men. 1.00

02:57:23.000 I mean, yeah, you put yourself in a vulnerable position if you walk around wearing a bikini and you're walking down Main Street and you have fucking high heels on. 1.00

02:57:30.000 You're going to run into a lot of weird people. 0.97

02:57:32.000 You're kind of giving them a green light to get freaky with you.

02:57:34.000 Or at least going, look at you, baby!

02:57:37.000 You're wearing your underwear!

02:57:40.000 It's a weird way to end it.

02:57:42.000 I think we have to run out of time.

02:57:43.000 Three hours in, we turn into a pumpkin.

02:57:46.000 This was a great show.

02:57:47.000 I really enjoyed it.

02:57:48.000 Yeah, I enjoyed it too.

02:57:48.000 It was a lot of fun.

02:57:49.000 People got to know you.

02:57:50.000 Yeah, I hope they liked me.

02:57:52.000 They liked you, according to Twitter.

02:57:53.000 Aw, that's awesome.

02:57:54.000 Just one last shout-out to Robert.

02:57:56.000 You have a lot of fans.

02:57:58.000 They're like, you've got to give me a shout-out.

02:57:59.000 Robert in Miami.

02:58:00.000 Robert in Miami. 1.00

02:58:01.000 Go fuck yourself, dude. 1.00

02:58:02.000 How dare you. 1.00

02:58:04.000 Just kidding, Robert.

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The Joe Rogan Experience - November 12, 2013

Joe Rogan Experience #416 - Ana Kasparian

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