The Joe Rogan Experience - March 20, 2014


Joe Rogan Experience #472 - Shane Smith

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Ting cell phone service Thunder Pussy climate change denial NSA being a horrible economic disparity fake food in China White Plains Charlie Vince Foster death investigation House of Cards Mena Russia politics consumer advocacy Saudi Arabia resentment oil prices Bronze Age weaponry dynamic fastener Area 51 secrets scrap export to China cove idea having kids is selfish kids NASA report and climate projections
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Fucking Jackie Gleason Ronald Reagan Hillary Clinton Tom Cruise Brian Putin Bronze Age Al Gore Ting Paul Newman Bitcoin Obama Vince Foster Charlie Kevin Trudeau Plato Nixon George Bush Sr. Montel Williams Rupert Murdoch and 95 more
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2 hours and 53 minutes

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31,807

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86

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On this week's episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast, the boys talk about cell phone service Ting, flip phones, and much, much more. Also, the guys talk about the latest and greatest things they've ever seen in the world of cell phones and why they don't need to be called cell phones anymore. Also, we discuss the new LG Flex and why you should get one of those cool little flip phones you can carry around in your pocket. Joe also gives his thoughts on the new Apple Watch Series 4, the new MacBook Pro, and why we should all get a foldable laptop. And, of course, we talk about why we don't want to have a cell phone carrier pigeon. Thanks to Ting for making this episode possible. Ting is a no-bullshit mobile service that does exactly what it says on the tin. You get the same service as a regular cell phone provider, but with no fees, no overages, no service fees, and no fees at all. It's cheaper and faster than most cell phone companies and you don't have to deal with any of the same annoying crap. Plus, you get a lot more control over your phone service and a better experience. Enjoy! -Joe Rogan and the boys Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. Subscribe to the podCast and Rate/subscribe on Apple Podcasts. If you like the pod, please leave us a review and tell us what you think of the pod and we'll send us a rating and review it on iTunes! Thank you! and a review! if you're a podcaster and review the pod is a review, review it over on Podchaser! or a review is in iTunes or review it! Subscribe on iTunes. or review on iTunes and review on PODCAST! Thanks for listening and subscribe to the podcast! It really does mean a lot to us, we really appreciate it. - Thank you for listening! -Jonah. -- Thank you, Jonah and the guys at Podchor. Jonah & the boys at PodChor -- Thank You, Brian and the Crew at Pod Chorchor, the Crew. Cheers, Jake, R. R. & the Crew -- -- The Crew

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00:00:02.000 Oh, sweet baby Jesus on a pogo stick.
00:00:06.000 This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you by Ting.
00:00:11.000 Ting is a no-bullshit mobile service.
00:00:15.000 What does that mean, ladies and gentlemen?
00:00:17.000 What does that mean? 0.97
00:00:18.000 It means Ting eliminates all the shit that's annoying about going to a regular cell phone provider. 0.96
00:00:24.000 But at the same time, they give you the same service that you would get if you had Sprint. 0.96
00:00:28.000 Sprint is their backbone.
00:00:30.000 That's what they use.
00:00:31.000 So all of their data, their phone calls, everything is done through Sprint.
00:00:35.000 But you don't have to deal with contracts.
00:00:38.000 You don't have any early termination fees.
00:00:40.000 No bundling or ride-along services.
00:00:44.000 No overages on charges or penalties.
00:00:47.000 The way Ting has it set up is you pay for what you use.
00:00:52.000 If you use less, you pay less.
00:00:54.000 If you use more, you pay more.
00:00:56.000 And it all makes sense.
00:00:58.000 It's real easy to follow.
00:00:59.000 And I personally believe that it is the model that all cell phone companies will be forced to adopt in the future.
00:01:05.000 Contracts are nonsense. 0.63
00:01:06.000 It's gross. 0.58
00:01:07.000 You don't want to use them anymore, so then all of a sudden you have to pay.
00:01:10.000 What is this LG Flex?
00:01:11.000 It's a curse.
00:01:12.000 Curved phone.
00:01:13.000 Have you seen that?
00:01:13.000 Is it totally curved?
00:01:14.000 Yeah, look at that.
00:01:14.000 What if you sit on it the wrong way?
00:01:16.000 The shit breaks instantly. 1.00
00:01:17.000 Probably. 1.00
00:01:17.000 But it's probably good for your front pocket. 1.00
00:01:18.000 It probably just curves right around your leg.
00:01:20.000 It probably feels great.
00:01:22.000 Maybe.
00:01:22.000 Put it sideways?
00:01:23.000 Put it right on your cock bag and take a lot of texts. 0.99
00:01:27.000 That's interesting. 0.99
00:01:27.000 If you're one of those Doug Benson characters. 0.99
00:01:29.000 Doug switched it, but he used to have it.
00:01:31.000 So every time someone would tweet, it would show up on his phone.
00:01:33.000 His phone would buzz.
00:01:35.000 Yeah.
00:01:35.000 You'd tweet his name.
00:01:36.000 He fixed that.
00:01:37.000 He got...
00:01:38.000 He wised up.
00:01:39.000 Anyway, the phones that they do have on Ting, they're all the top-end Android phones.
00:01:44.000 The Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which is what I have.
00:01:47.000 They have the HTC One, which is pretty fucking badass as well.
00:01:50.000 They have the Galaxy S4, which is another outstanding phone.
00:01:55.000 Ting has basically everything you can need as far as cell phones.
00:01:58.000 All the top-end Android phones. 0.75
00:02:01.000 And as far as service, they just cut out all the bullshit and they save a lot of people money.
00:02:04.000 98% of people would save money on Ting.
00:02:08.000 And if you go to rogan.ting.com, you can save $25 off of any new device.
00:02:15.000 It is an outstanding cell phone service.
00:02:17.000 It is a service that many of our friends use and are very happy with.
00:02:21.000 I've never had one person complain about it.
00:02:24.000 Absolutely the best Android phones that you could buy as well.
00:02:27.000 All the cool ones. 0.99
00:02:28.000 All the new shit. 0.99
00:02:29.000 Do you think you could do this for a month, have one of these flip phones? 1.00
00:02:32.000 Could if I was like one of those contrarian guys.
00:02:34.000 I was hanging around a bunch of old dudes in Dallas, these old karate guys, and they all had flip phones.
00:02:38.000 It was hilarious. 0.99
00:02:39.000 Yeah, Chuck Norris is a fucking flip phone. 1.00
00:02:41.000 Chuck Norris flips open his phone. 1.00
00:02:43.000 Bob Wall from Enter the Dragon, a little flip phone.
00:02:45.000 I think there is something nice about the idea of it only being a phone.
00:02:49.000 Imagine having a razor right now.
00:02:50.000 You know how nice it was to have a razor in your pocket?
00:02:53.000 But it's also nice to be able to do everything from one device.
00:02:55.000 Send text and all that.
00:02:56.000 Imagine if you had one phone and then you had to send someone an address.
00:03:01.000 Send me the contact information. 1.00
00:03:03.000 Ugh, shit. 1.00
00:03:04.000 You can't copy-paste. 1.00
00:03:06.000 You can't do anything. 1.00
00:03:06.000 Fuck all that, man. 1.00
00:03:08.000 That's just the past. 1.00
00:03:09.000 You don't want to have a carrier pigeon either, alright? 1.00
00:03:11.000 Fuck a smoke signal. 1.00
00:03:12.000 That's what I'm saying, Brian. 1.00
00:03:14.000 Fuck a smoke signal. 1.00
00:03:16.000 You heard me. 1.00
00:03:17.000 I'm controversial.
00:03:19.000 I don't know about this LG Flex, though.
00:03:21.000 I don't know.
00:03:21.000 It might be cool.
00:03:22.000 It might be annoying, too.
00:03:24.000 Seems cool.
00:03:26.000 I think eventually they're going to have roll-up phones.
00:03:28.000 It's going to be like a scroll, like a parchment.
00:03:31.000 Hear ye, hear ye.
00:03:32.000 You're going to roll out your phone.
00:03:33.000 It's going to be one of those flip bracelets that the kids wear.
00:03:35.000 Have you ever seen it where it's like a big metal thing that you snap on your bracelet?
00:03:39.000 Aubrey has one of those electric cars, one of those Teslas.
00:03:43.000 I thought those things were nonsense until I got in one. 1.00
00:03:46.000 Holy shit. 1.00
00:03:47.000 They have the dopest screen I've ever seen in a car. 1.00
00:03:51.000 It's the whole front thing is a screen.
00:03:54.000 Like the panel in the middle that does the air conditioning and the radio, it's a giant computer screen.
00:04:00.000 Dude, it's pretty wicked. 0.99
00:04:01.000 That shit freezes up your whole car. 1.00
00:04:03.000 Yeah, your car is probably going to crash, for sure. 0.99
00:04:05.000 Yeah, and if there's any sort of electrical shortage or anything like that, if your car gets hit by lightning, it's toast.
00:04:11.000 What is that, first year model?
00:04:12.000 That's crazy.
00:04:13.000 I think it's...
00:04:14.000 They've had cars before because they had the Tesla sports car, which was also a battery-controlled car.
00:04:20.000 But that was a tricky car because all the batteries were in the ass end of the car and it's a really light car.
00:04:25.000 So it's like one of those old Porsches.
00:04:27.000 The old Porsches have the engine hanging out back and...
00:04:29.000 It changes the dynamics of the handling. 0.93
00:04:32.000 When you go around corners, the ass end wants to pop around. 0.95
00:04:35.000 It's called oversteer. 0.99
00:04:37.000 Some people like it.
00:04:38.000 It's kind of fun to drive like that, but you have to get used to it and know what it's going to do.
00:04:41.000 If you're used to driving a regular car, and you're used to going sideways in a Corvette or something like that, and you get in one of those things, it's a very different sort of dynamic.
00:04:50.000 They look cool, though.
00:04:51.000 You've seen those little plastic things?
00:04:53.000 They look like little fun matchbox cars.
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:55.000 They look like a little lotus.
00:04:57.000 That's what they look like.
00:04:58.000 And apparently they're pretty fast, too.
00:05:01.000 And all electric.
00:05:03.000 You know, which is cool.
00:05:04.000 In LA, you can actually really do it electrically because you could have solar that's charging your car.
00:05:09.000 I mean, a lot of people have that now, where they have just a solar charger to their car, so their car's not hooked up to the grid at all.
00:05:15.000 Wow.
00:05:16.000 Yeah, pretty wicked.
00:05:17.000 Has nothing to do with Ting, though.
00:05:18.000 Rogan.Ting.com. 1.00
00:05:20.000 Go get yourself, bitches! 1.00
00:05:22.000 It's an awesome cell phone service, and we love them. 0.99
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00:06:58.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Shane Smith is here. 0.99
00:07:00.000 Why fuck around any longer? 0.99
00:07:02.000 Oh, we have a show Friday night at the Ice House. 1.00
00:07:05.000 It's called Thunder Pussy. 0.99
00:07:07.000 If you've never been to a Thunder Pussy show, it's not a regular comedy show. 0.99
00:07:11.000 You can get a bunch of fucking windows open. 0.99
00:07:13.000 What Thunder Pussy is, is... 1.00
00:07:16.000 It's a show where no one plans what they're going to say. 1.00
00:07:20.000 Everyone goes on stage fucked up, the audience calls out ideas, and everyone just starts talking shit. 0.99
00:07:26.000 Sometimes it's awesome. 1.00
00:07:28.000 Last time it was awesome.
00:07:30.000 It's cool because it's a unique comedy show.
00:07:31.000 You'll never see these comics doing these bits because they're just making them up on the fly while they're on stage. 0.99
00:07:38.000 Yeah, and you can't come on stage with some fucking material. 0.96
00:07:41.000 No, that's one of the rules. 0.99
00:07:43.000 You're not allowed to do that.
00:07:43.000 You're not allowed to use any material.
00:07:45.000 Boo! 0.83
00:07:46.000 That's a joke. 1.00
00:07:48.000 You wrote that, you weak bitch. 1.00
00:07:50.000 It's a lot of fun. 1.00
00:07:51.000 And I'll be there.
00:07:52.000 And Eleanor Kerrigan, Jeremiah Watson, Rob Gleason, Omar Nava.
00:07:57.000 I don't know who that is, but I like the name.
00:07:59.000 A lot of people.
00:08:00.000 A lot of fun people.
00:08:01.000 Jason Rouse.
00:08:01.000 Jason Rouse.
00:08:02.000 Yeah, Rouse.
00:08:03.000 He's the one that did that website contest that we had.
00:08:07.000 And he was so wanting to win.
00:08:09.000 Every day he checked with me.
00:08:10.000 He's like, did I win?
00:08:11.000 Oh, the Squarespace website contest?
00:08:14.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:08:14.000 Those are some fucking dope websites. 1.00
00:08:17.000 There was too many websites. 1.00
00:08:18.000 A bunch of people should have won that contest.
00:08:20.000 We should have had 100 winners.
00:08:21.000 Anyway, Ice House, Friday night, and it's the little room, too, which is like 90 seats.
00:08:26.000 It's a really sweet spot to hang out.
00:08:28.000 All right, that's it. 0.97
00:08:30.000 Onnit.com, co-word Rogan, Thunder Pussy, Friday night. 0.94
00:08:35.000 That's it.
00:08:35.000 Everything else, go to JoeRogan.net for all my tour dates.
00:08:38.000 I got a lot of shit coming up in Miami, April 3rd. 0.99
00:08:40.000 I'm in Miami, bitch. 1.00
00:08:42.000 No, it's going to be fine. 0.98
00:08:42.000 Orlando April 18th with Joey Diaz and then Baltimore on the 25th of April also with Joey Diaz. 0.98
00:08:49.000 Alright, that's it.
00:08:50.000 Let's play the music. 1.00
00:09:01.000 Powerful Shane Smith, world traveler, internationally known, locally accepted, bad motherfucker, out doing ridiculous shit all over the world and not slowing down anytime soon. 1.00
00:09:14.000 Are you the new Rupert Murdoch? 1.00
00:09:16.000 I keep hearing that.
00:09:17.000 I keep hearing you're the new Rupert Murdoch.
00:09:19.000 What does that mean?
00:09:19.000 I don't know why I keep coming on here.
00:09:22.000 You love me. 1.00
00:09:23.000 All I get is shit. 1.00
00:09:26.000 I love you. 1.00
00:09:27.000 I love everybody in this room.
00:09:32.000 No, I'm not the next Rupert Murdoch.
00:09:33.000 What's the latest, man? 1.00
00:09:34.000 Where the fuck have you been? 0.99
00:09:35.000 Where are you getting back from? 1.00
00:09:36.000 Every time I've emailed you or talked to you or Twitter or text messaging, you're in the middle of fucking nowhere. 0.99
00:09:42.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:09:42.000 In some dark places. 0.99
00:09:43.000 It's so funny.
00:09:44.000 We were talking before the show and he's like, yeah, I should get you to do some of these things.
00:09:47.000 I can send you the North Pole. 0.99
00:09:48.000 I'm like, bitch, I'm not going to the fucking North Pole. 1.00
00:09:51.000 You don't know me, man. 1.00
00:09:52.000 That's a good one, though.
00:09:53.000 What?
00:09:54.000 That's an easy one.
00:09:55.000 What are you saying?
00:09:56.000 The North Pole is not good or easy. 0.97
00:09:59.000 That's ridiculous. 0.90
00:10:00.000 Yeah. 0.93
00:10:01.000 There's polar bears up there, right?
00:10:03.000 Is there South Pole polar bears?
00:10:05.000 Which one is polar bears?
00:10:06.000 North Pole, yeah.
00:10:07.000 Yeah?
00:10:08.000 Yeah.
00:10:08.000 One of them has penguins, one of them doesn't.
00:10:10.000 South Pole.
00:10:10.000 South Pole is penguins?
00:10:11.000 Penguins.
00:10:12.000 North Pole doesn't?
00:10:12.000 Polar bears.
00:10:15.000 Why would that possibly be easy?
00:10:18.000 Well, it's a bitch to get to because you have to, like, fly a thousand times and then go, you know, with... 1.00
00:10:24.000 A sled and dogs. 0.99
00:10:26.000 And ice helicopters and shit and whatever. 0.99
00:10:29.000 Jeez. 0.97
00:10:30.000 But it's a crazy story, what's going on there.
00:10:33.000 Like, that's like, you know, World War III happening up there.
00:10:36.000 So this is the place where...
00:10:38.000 What's going on in the middle of the North Pole now?
00:10:42.000 So the ice is melting.
00:10:44.000 Right.
00:10:44.000 And...
00:10:45.000 A, that's leading to two things.
00:10:47.000 One, opening up of passages so Russians can come right across, which is great because now it looks like we're going back to the Cold War.
00:10:55.000 But it's also just tons of oil, tons of minerals can now be sort of, you know, mined. 0.52
00:11:01.000 Yeah, fucked up the environment. 0.99
00:11:03.000 Well, just fuck it up even more. 0.97
00:11:05.000 So what's happening is everyone's amassing huge sort of caches of arms. 0.85
00:11:10.000 So, you know, the Russians obviously are getting up there... 0.79
00:11:13.000 Everyone's planting flags on the seabed floors.
00:11:16.000 This is ours.
00:11:16.000 No, this is ours.
00:11:17.000 So the Scandies are trying to get in there. 0.90
00:11:19.000 Canada's trying to get in there. 0.64
00:11:21.000 Both are being destroyed by the Russians and the Americans. 1.00
00:11:24.000 Chinese are in there.
00:11:26.000 Everybody's getting there with subs.
00:11:29.000 Lots of naval buildup, but huge arms buildup going on there because that's going to be the next sort of...
00:11:37.000 Not only the sort of transportation routes, but also, you know, all the sort of natural minerals, rare earth minerals, oil, etc., etc.
00:11:43.000 So essentially, it's just like when the Bering Strait back during the Ice Age was connecting the United States to Asia and then it went away.
00:11:53.000 Now new passages like that are opening up.
00:11:55.000 Correct.
00:11:56.000 So the whole North Pole is melting.
00:11:58.000 So you can, what's happening now is you can actually, you know, when a lot of the earlier explorers were trying to get to China by going around the north, you know, and now that's opening up.
00:12:09.000 So it's opening up north of Scandinavia so that Russia can actually go right around Scandinavia because they never really had a freshwater year-round port.
00:12:19.000 And so that's a big deal for them.
00:12:21.000 But, you know, Same thing for Canada, same thing for the States, China.
00:12:25.000 They're all trying to get up there and lay rights to all the minerals and all the oil that's up there. 0.80
00:12:31.000 How does that work?
00:12:31.000 As well as the passage.
00:12:32.000 How does that work?
00:12:33.000 Who decides who owns...
00:12:36.000 What was it before?
00:12:38.000 Was it International Waters?
00:12:40.000 Well, yeah.
00:12:41.000 People had laid claim to it, but you couldn't know when he went there, so who the hell cared?
00:12:46.000 What does it matter?
00:12:47.000 You couldn't get through because it was all iced up.
00:12:49.000 So now what's happening is a massive land grab.
00:12:52.000 People are just planting their flags and saying, no, this is ours.
00:12:54.000 No, this is not yours.
00:12:55.000 This is ours.
00:12:56.000 And they're sort of fighting it out.
00:12:57.000 But basically up there, might makes right.
00:13:00.000 So if I got my ships up there, I got my guns up there, I got my Air Force up there, guess what?
00:13:05.000 It's mine.
00:13:06.000 Wow.
00:13:07.000 And it's so fascinating how over the last few years they've discovered all these massive, massive supplies of oil up there.
00:13:15.000 Huge, yeah. 0.96
00:13:15.000 Huge reserves of oil, shale oil and weird oil that you have to fucking... 0.96
00:13:21.000 What's the kind in Utah that they found where you have to burn it and it creates all this horrible carbons being emitted into the environment in order to process it? 0.51
00:13:30.000 Yeah, there's all different...
00:13:31.000 I mean, the worst oil that they have for the environment in Canada is the tar sands.
00:13:36.000 Yeah.
00:13:37.000 Where they have to take all the fresh water, boil up the sand.
00:13:40.000 To get out the oil.
00:13:42.000 To get the oil out costs tons and tons of money.
00:13:45.000 But because oil is so expensive, now it's become economically feasible.
00:13:51.000 Wow.
00:13:51.000 And that's the stuff that pollutes the environment pretty heavily.
00:13:53.000 Well, it all does.
00:13:54.000 But, I mean, tar sands is shocking.
00:13:56.000 It's like really, really bad.
00:13:57.000 I think that's what they were talking about in Utah.
00:13:59.000 I'm not sure, but they're trying to figure out a way to block it.
00:14:02.000 It could be tar sands.
00:14:03.000 They found more oil in Utah, ready for this, than humans have ever used ever.
00:14:10.000 Wow.
00:14:10.000 Seriously.
00:14:11.000 So there's no way you're going to keep those fucking dirty criminals from pulling them out of the ground and fucking up everything. 1.00
00:14:16.000 I mean, that amount... 1.00
00:14:18.000 If it's tar sand, I don't know about Utah specifically.
00:14:20.000 I know about Canada.
00:14:21.000 It's very, very bad because they take the whole Lake Athabasca sort of watershed and they use the water to boil out the oil and then you have all of this sort of Chemical sand that they have to chuck,
00:14:37.000 you have all the waters destroyed, and then obviously you got the oil.
00:14:41.000 It's oil shale, that's what they're saying.
00:14:43.000 Shale, yeah. 0.72
00:14:43.000 Shale, so that is... 0.72
00:14:45.000 Shale oil.
00:14:46.000 Yeah, that's what's...
00:14:47.000 Well, that's what you got to...
00:14:48.000 You got to go down, and there's fracking to get natural gas, and there's fracking and blowing up to get the shale oil. 0.99
00:14:55.000 Well, there's a lot of that shit out there, apparently. 0.98
00:14:58.000 It's interesting that they're just finding this over the last decade or so. 1.00
00:15:02.000 Well, they knew about it, but it was too expensive.
00:15:04.000 Oh, I see. 1.00
00:15:04.000 It wasn't economically viable, but now because it's $100 a barrel, they're like, fuck, blow the shit out of everything and get us the oil. 1.00
00:15:11.000 So they knew about it in Utah, too? 0.99
00:15:13.000 They knew about all these reserves?
00:15:14.000 Well, they knew that you could get it.
00:15:15.000 Like, fracking isn't anything new.
00:15:17.000 You know, oil sands, tar sands aren't anything new.
00:15:20.000 Shale oil isn't new. 0.97
00:15:22.000 It's just, oh, you know, we can, we can, it's now economically viable to actually get this shit out, because it was too expensive before. 0.83
00:15:29.000 It's the same thing with using CO2 and water to sort of frack or to pump out the rest of the oil in wells because we didn't get all the oil out before, only what was pressurized.
00:15:39.000 There's a thing that comes up when you talk about anything that causes some sort of environmental hazard where you have two different types of people that automatically jump on the argument.
00:15:49.000 There's a type of people that are like, oh my god, we have to save owls and olive trees or whatever the fuck is growing up there.
00:15:56.000 And then there's these other people.
00:15:58.000 These other people that almost universally are not financially successful, but support hardcore Republican ideals, including the sacrificing of the environment for some sort of an economic gain.
00:16:14.000 I don't understand it, and I just did a piece on Greenland that's going to be airing on our HBO show tomorrow, and I've been doing a lot of press around. 0.97
00:16:21.000 It's interesting because I did a piece on Sea Level Rise last season, and Generally, about 90% of our comments are like, you guys fucking rock. 0.97
00:16:30.000 It's great. 0.95
00:16:31.000 And then there's 10%.
00:16:33.000 And like 80% of the comments all of a sudden on the environmental stuff were negative.
00:16:37.000 And I was like, how is this even happening?
00:16:40.000 And...
00:16:41.000 There's a study that was done that if the first four comments on an environmental thing or any news piece are negative, then people negate the actual piece.
00:16:53.000 So they spend hundreds of millions of dollars for bloggers and people to just go out and do comments so that anything launches, they sit there and they say that this is bad or not true or whatever.
00:17:05.000 For me, look, here's the deal.
00:17:08.000 I talked to scientists all the time for this Greenland piece, I talked to the chief climatologist at NASA. And I said, okay, so how much of this is man-made?
00:17:21.000 Because I went to Greenland and it's melting.
00:17:23.000 And Greenland is going to melt and it's 24 feet of sea level rise.
00:17:28.000 So if the sea level rise is 24 feet, then 80% of the world's cities go underwater.
00:17:33.000 So I said, okay, you know, how much of this is man-made?
00:17:37.000 And he's a conservative scientist.
00:17:40.000 He's like a NASA guy.
00:17:41.000 He's not like some crazy tree-hugging guy.
00:17:43.000 And he's like, well, 100%.
00:17:44.000 I said, hold on, what do you mean 100%?
00:17:46.000 It's natural.
00:17:47.000 No, it's 100% if you look at it.
00:17:50.000 And I actually, when I was talking to him, he's like, if we cut our carbon emissions by 80%, It's still going to continue for the next 500 years, global warming, or at least, but we just slow down the pace of it.
00:18:02.000 And I'm like, well, how much of Greenland's going to melt?
00:18:05.000 He goes, well, all of it.
00:18:06.000 It's just a question of how fast.
00:18:08.000 Is it going to be 500 years?
00:18:09.000 Is it going to be 50 years?
00:18:10.000 Is it going to be 150 years?
00:18:12.000 And so I actually kind of got mad at the scientists because I'm like, he's saying this as if it's boring.
00:18:18.000 And I'm saying, hold on, this is a global scientific consensus.
00:18:22.000 Yeah.
00:18:22.000 And then I'm like, well, people in America don't understand that.
00:18:25.000 I don't understand that.
00:18:26.000 And I do this for a living that, you know, because we did a thing on the Texas drought because we, you know, there was a drought here in California.
00:18:32.000 Everybody's like global warming, global warming.
00:18:35.000 And in Texas, they've had a drought for three years and they denied climate change.
00:18:38.000 Like Rick Perry said, it's not true.
00:18:41.000 Governor of the state.
00:18:42.000 And then you sit there and say, okay, well, how is that possible?
00:18:44.000 So we went to talk to people and they're like, yeah, climate change has been denied.
00:18:47.000 I mean, it's been disproven.
00:18:50.000 And that I find insidious because they know it's not true.
00:18:54.000 The fossil fuel companies know it's not true.
00:18:56.000 The car companies know it's not true.
00:18:57.000 The politicians know it's not true.
00:18:59.000 They know what the global consensus is, the scientific consensus is.
00:19:03.000 I think?
00:19:12.000 For short-term profits and that's what's insidious about climate change denial.
00:19:16.000 It's very insidious and it's very fascinating to me this play on these people, these no-nonsense type people. 0.65
00:19:23.000 There's a mentality that people adopt where they don't want to be fools. 0.85
00:19:26.000 Right. 0.83
00:19:26.000 And it's the no-nonsense mentality and I've documented this. 0.83
00:19:31.000 This is like something that I've really been studying for quite a while.
00:19:34.000 There's people that, in spite of all the evidence in front of them, they want to believe the official story on almost everything and almost always take the conservative viewpoint.
00:19:42.000 And a lot of times that conservative viewpoint is who they are, the very type of people who they are, it's against them.
00:19:51.000 And yet they still support it.
00:19:53.000 A lot of them are hard-working, blue-collar people, and they have this idea that somehow or another in the future, They want to be able to make money freely.
00:20:03.000 So, you know, I don't want the government stepping in and stopping all this shale because I could step in and maybe do a little shale mining myself and start making millions of dollars and right now they're not.
00:20:15.000 Right now they're the ones who are being punished by a lot of these ideas and they're pushing forth themselves.
00:20:20.000 It's very strange.
00:20:21.000 But if you ever talk to, and I agree with you, and I've always found it incredibly...
00:20:27.000 Yeah.
00:20:27.000 And we just did this story on vets returning from Afghanistan and Iraq and how they're over-prescribed, over-medicated by the VA. It's a huge problem.
00:20:38.000 Well, it's working folks who support big business.
00:20:41.000 Well, that's it.
00:20:42.000 And if you talk to the disillusioned veterans, veterans of which I have tremendous respect for, by the way, but coming back from these wars that were fought for economic reasons, for oil.
00:20:52.000 Mm-hmm.
00:20:53.000 And when they realize that, they're like, oh, we were duped.
00:20:58.000 We went over there to fight the good fight.
00:21:01.000 There's no good fight.
00:21:02.000 There's no good fight.
00:21:03.000 We went over there to fight for oil.
00:21:04.000 And by the way, there's never been a good fight, right?
00:21:07.000 I mean, look, you could say World War II, Nazis, bad, very bad people.
00:21:14.000 I would say that Iraq now is pretty much a given. 0.99
00:21:18.000 There were no weapons of mass destruction.
00:21:20.000 He wasn't doing anything with al-Qaeda.
00:21:21.000 It was a secular regime.
00:21:22.000 They were enemies.
00:21:24.000 We went in to get oil.
00:21:25.000 And I think if you look at Afghanistan now, we just did a piece on Afghanistan.
00:21:29.000 And the Taliban are running South Afghanistan.
00:21:32.000 And the Northern Alliance are running Northern Afghanistan.
00:21:34.000 And the minute we pull out, it's going to be the Taliban take over the South just like they did before. 1.00
00:21:39.000 And a trillion dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives...
00:21:42.000 Are just going to be wasted for nothing because Al-Qaeda is going to be in with the Taliban again, which is why we went in there in the first place. 0.72
00:21:53.000 What I'm trying to get at is I think that a lot of the mentality, you know, people are used, you know, for economic purposes.
00:22:01.000 And that I find insidious.
00:22:03.000 People should not be used for it.
00:22:04.000 It is not just insidious.
00:22:06.000 It's maddening because a lot of those people who really signed up to serve their country were real, legit heroes.
00:22:13.000 Correct.
00:22:13.000 And they were used.
00:22:14.000 Correct.
00:22:15.000 And if you go back and read Smedley Butler's War is Just a Racket from 1930-something, he was a major brigadier, major general character.
00:22:25.000 I forget what his exact title and rank was, but he was a well-respected military man who spent his whole life in the service of the country and then realized when he was retiring that he only existed to go out there and...
00:22:39.000 We're good to go.
00:23:00.000 That even the people involved in it don't realize they're a part of the hustle.
00:23:03.000 The very most important part, the machine, the hammer itself, doesn't realize it's part of the hustle.
00:23:08.000 The very guys pulling the trigger.
00:23:10.000 Well, if they realized that, they wouldn't go fight.
00:23:14.000 It's so insidious that you could figure out a way to get someone to do that.
00:23:17.000 And the way you get them to do that is actually get them to love their country.
00:23:20.000 Actually get real heroes.
00:23:22.000 Wow.
00:23:24.000 You're preying off patriotism. 0.99
00:23:26.000 It's that thing, too, though, man, that I'm a good person, and I'm a no-nonsense good person, and that's the same shit that gets preyed upon with this whole global warming denial thing. 0.95
00:23:37.000 But I don't understand, because whenever I talk to someone, I'm like, okay, I'm a gambling guy. 0.84
00:23:42.000 Even if it's a 1% chance.
00:23:44.000 So you're so sure.
00:23:45.000 It's 100% sure. 0.99
00:23:47.000 It's 100% it's a fucking hoax, right? 0.99
00:23:49.000 What if it's 1%? 0.99
00:23:51.000 What if it's 5%?
00:23:52.000 What if it's 10%? 0.98
00:23:54.000 Don't you want to fucking hedge your bet? 0.96
00:23:56.000 And say because total global environmental disaster and breakdown versus, okay, we're all okay. 0.99
00:24:04.000 Don't you want to hedge your bet?
00:24:06.000 Wouldn't you want to hedge your bet against a complete environmental disaster?
00:24:10.000 I would.
00:24:11.000 I'm a gambler, man.
00:24:12.000 I'll bet 1% to say, okay, it's like insurance when you play background or when they've got a 21. Okay, I'll take that insurance because even if it's 1% true, I'm convinced it's 100% true, but even if it's 1% true, don't you want to hedge your bet?
00:24:27.000 I think it's a confirmation bias issue that these ideas fit into their no-nonsense mentality.
00:24:33.000 The no-nonsense mentality is almost like a religion.
00:24:37.000 It's, come on, Oswald acted alone.
00:24:39.000 Stop it.
00:24:40.000 It's the same guy.
00:24:41.000 They're not even looking into it.
00:24:42.000 They just go with this no-nonsense idea, even in the face of all sorts of...
00:24:47.000 Well, it's interesting in Texas, because you have a loss of a whole way of life.
00:24:53.000 Because all the cows are dying.
00:24:55.000 They've had a three year drought.
00:24:56.000 They've either sold them off or they've died. 0.99
00:24:58.000 And so you sit there and say okay in the face of all your fucking cattle which was Texas for the longest period of time you know Dying because of this prolonged drought. 0.98
00:25:27.000 I was just a climate change denier because Al Gore was for it, therefore I was against it. 0.99
00:25:31.000 And then when I did the research, I realized, holy shit, there's something to this. 0.98
00:25:36.000 And he got drummed out of the party and lost his seat. 0.99
00:25:38.000 Wow.
00:25:39.000 And look, it's big political business down there, and it's an oil state.
00:25:44.000 It's an oil state now because there's no more cattle.
00:25:46.000 So all the water, they have no water for the cattle they're using for fracking.
00:25:50.000 So you sit there and you say, look, it's gotten so bad now. 0.99
00:25:56.000 That even people who have been deniers for so long are saying, you know what, fuck, okay, what the fuck are we going to do? 0.99
00:26:02.000 Have you seen the photos of, I think it's Lake Travis. 0.99
00:26:05.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:06.000 Lake Travis.
00:26:07.000 It's not down to nothing.
00:26:08.000 There's like boats that were like sitting on the shore in front of these people's million dollar estates.
00:26:14.000 Yeah.
00:26:14.000 And now these things are in the middle of this field.
00:26:16.000 Yeah.
00:26:17.000 It's like there's grass growing up.
00:26:18.000 I mean, it's not going back.
00:26:20.000 And by the way, that's green Texas.
00:26:21.000 Yeah.
00:26:22.000 Yeah, you're right.
00:26:22.000 West Texas is Saudi Arabia.
00:26:25.000 That's Austin.
00:26:25.000 We're talking about Austin, which is about as rainy as it gets.
00:26:30.000 Look at that.
00:26:30.000 That's a kind photograph.
00:26:32.000 That's happening in California as well.
00:26:34.000 We were at Lake Tejon, and Lake Tejon used to have some of the best bass fishing in Southern California.
00:26:40.000 It's a great spot.
00:26:42.000 They had this great lake there.
00:26:43.000 It was just filled with largemouth bass, and it's a private...
00:26:47.000 The whole ranch, 270,000 acres is private, so you couldn't just get in there to fish.
00:26:54.000 So they would let people come in and fish.
00:26:55.000 The employees would fish.
00:26:57.000 People would pay to fish there. 0.99
00:26:58.000 It's fucking gone now. 0.99
00:27:00.000 It's gone. 0.99
00:27:00.000 Almost all the fish are dead. 0.99
00:27:01.000 The water is like six inches deep.
00:27:03.000 You can walk across the entire lake now.
00:27:06.000 Literally, it'll go up to your chest.
00:27:07.000 I have a question for you.
00:27:08.000 When that happens, when lakes are disappearing, Lake Travis has disappeared, all these places are disappearing... 1.00
00:27:13.000 And people still say, fuck you, Joe. 1.00
00:27:15.000 It's fucking natural occurrence of things. 1.00
00:27:18.000 This is bullshit. 1.00
00:27:19.000 There's no climate change. 1.00
00:27:20.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:27:20.000 What do you say to them? 1.00
00:27:22.000 Well, the guy, the last guy that I had a conversation with that told me that it was just a natural cycle, he's a guy from jujitsu.
00:27:28.000 And I was like, you know, I said, well, there's always been natural cycles.
00:27:32.000 Absolutely.
00:27:33.000 It's true.
00:27:34.000 You know, there's the climate on the earth has varied widely.
00:27:37.000 Mm-hmm.
00:27:37.000 But it doesn't mean that human intervention and what we've caused can't play a big part in accelerating that and accelerating it in an unmanageable way.
00:27:46.000 And he didn't really have an answer to that.
00:27:48.000 Because he was a no-nonsense guy. 0.96
00:27:51.000 He was just a young military kid who has this idea in his head that, you know, there's a lot of hippie bullshit being flown around there about the environment. 0.98
00:27:59.000 Well, I think that's the problem. 0.95
00:28:00.000 You know, Al Gore made a billion dollars telling everybody that.
00:28:03.000 He's the first green billionaire.
00:28:05.000 Did you know that?
00:28:06.000 Okay, it doesn't mean he's totally wrong.
00:28:08.000 Well, the interesting thing about Al Gore, and I find it very interesting, not that I'm an Al Gore lover, I came up actually hating Tipper Gore because she was censorship, etc., etc.
00:28:20.000 All the rap lyrics you go after.
00:28:22.000 Exactly, exactly.
00:28:23.000 But you've got to look at Al Gore and say, he wasn't...
00:28:27.000 Like a big liberal.
00:28:30.000 He was like a sort of tobacco guy from the South, like, you know, centrist.
00:28:35.000 You know, in most countries in the world, he'd be sort of center-right.
00:28:40.000 Conservative dude.
00:28:41.000 He came out of politics being an environmentalist.
00:28:45.000 Now, he didn't do that...
00:28:46.000 I don't know the guys very well, but, you know, he came out freaking out about the environment.
00:28:53.000 Why? 0.99
00:28:53.000 Because all the shit that he learned in... 0.99
00:28:57.000 All the behind-the-scenes shit that we don't know about freaked him out so much that he said, I'm going to actually go out and do this movie and say the environment is fucked. 0.99
00:29:04.000 Hey, by the way, this isn't like a Greenpeace dude. 0.99
00:29:07.000 This isn't a hippie.
00:29:07.000 This is a tobacco, southern dude, conservative in America, but you know, whatever, conservative in the world.
00:29:15.000 And he comes out and says the environment's fucked. 0.96
00:29:17.000 What's interesting is he wins a Nobel Prize, does a good movie, all this stuff, but then gets vilified to the point that now Al Gore is a joke. 1.00
00:29:24.000 And when we say, oh, you know, fuck, you know, he's this and it's Al Gore. 0.99
00:29:28.000 And by the way, isn't that a great fucking triumph? 1.00
00:29:31.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:29:32.000 For deniers, because they're like, Al Gore is now a joke for doing a movie that says, hey, by the way, the environment's fucked. 0.95
00:29:38.000 Yeah, isn't that weird that they can do that? 0.93
00:29:40.000 That they can turn someone into, like, he's almost like... 0.99
00:29:44.000 Remember when Richard Gere, you'd say Richard Gere, you thought gerbil up the ass. 0.99
00:29:47.000 Right. 0.99
00:29:48.000 Right?
00:29:48.000 That's all anybody thought.
00:29:49.000 Yeah.
00:29:49.000 Well, when you talk about Al Gore now, especially around certain circles, he's a joke when it comes to the climate.
00:29:55.000 He's a joke. 0.99
00:29:55.000 Was there anything that he said that was debunked or was it all bullshit? 0.99
00:29:59.000 No. 0.99
00:29:59.000 No, they just attacked. 0.99
00:30:00.000 Nothing.
00:30:00.000 They kept attacking him, attacking him, attacking him.
00:30:02.000 That's fascinating.
00:30:02.000 And by the way, it's fascinating because what there is is...
00:30:08.000 Anyone says anything we don't like, we attack their character. 0.95
00:30:11.000 And once we attack their character and they're on the defensive, then we fucking won. 0.94
00:30:15.000 Because then it's not about what they said. 1.00
00:30:17.000 It's about, well, fucking this person, we can't trust what he said because he'd like to finger up his ass on it. 1.00
00:30:24.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.99
00:30:25.000 And that is a fascinating thing they do with comments on videos, like especially your kind of documentaries that expose things.
00:30:32.000 Oh, we get it.
00:30:33.000 And they attack.
00:30:34.000 And it's been proven now.
00:30:35.000 I mean, that was part of the Snowden deal we actually got to see.
00:30:50.000 I've got another question for you. 1.00
00:30:52.000 Why isn't there more fucking outrage about the NSA listening to every fucking phone call, every tweet, every fucking email, everything, and saying, we live in a goddamn police state. 1.00
00:31:03.000 We signed away... 1.00
00:31:04.000 Well, we never even signed it away, but...
00:31:07.000 Our rights and freedoms. 0.98
00:31:08.000 Look, I came to this country because it's the land of the free home of the brave, fucking beautiful country. 0.97
00:31:13.000 I love it here. 0.98
00:31:14.000 Gorgeous place.
00:31:15.000 Why is there more outrage at the NSA? Watching everything we do and doing it illegally?
00:31:22.000 I think there is outrage, but I think people feel like they are waiting for something to happen and they don't know what they can do about it.
00:31:28.000 They don't feel like they have any real legitimate power.
00:31:31.000 They can express their outrage.
00:31:33.000 They wait for the politicians to make some announcements.
00:31:36.000 I mean, what is the only thing that Obama said that they're going to try to slow it down somewhat or do something differently in some way?
00:31:44.000 What are you doing? 1.00
00:31:48.000 Oh, fuck all those people. 1.00
00:31:49.000 You can't listen to those people. 1.00
00:31:51.000 How dare those people.
00:31:53.000 I didn't know we were on the TV. Don't worry about all those people.
00:31:58.000 They complain too much.
00:31:59.000 And they love it if you react to them.
00:32:01.000 Oh, Brian moved the thing because of me!
00:32:04.000 I'm a ghost producer!
00:32:09.000 I like looking at him hiding.
00:32:10.000 That's why I feel like it's a metaphor for his job.
00:32:15.000 Sneaking around behind things.
00:32:16.000 Reporting on the reality of the situation.
00:32:20.000 Where were we?
00:32:22.000 What were we just talking about?
00:32:23.000 NSA! NSA being a horrible, terrible, scary thing that people are outraged about.
00:32:25.000 I'm surprised that people don't freak the fuck out. 0.93
00:32:28.000 I think they are. 0.82
00:32:29.000 They just don't know what to do.
00:32:30.000 They're in this holding pattern.
00:32:32.000 They're waiting for something to happen.
00:32:34.000 Because I gotta tell you what, like...
00:32:37.000 It's just bad and it's getting worse.
00:32:42.000 We just did this interesting story in Camden, New Jersey.
00:32:45.000 Yeah, no cops.
00:32:46.000 No cops, right?
00:32:47.000 Yeah.
00:32:48.000 They ran out of money for cops.
00:32:50.000 So yeah.
00:32:50.000 Highest crime rate, highest murder rate.
00:32:52.000 Ran out of money for cops.
00:32:53.000 So what did they do?
00:32:53.000 They hired a tech company to come in and they I think?
00:33:21.000 But they have recorded and filmed everything that's going on in that fucking town 24 hours a day. 0.99
00:33:27.000 They know everything that's going on there, right? 0.99
00:33:28.000 And it's been such a success.
00:33:31.000 It really just put it underground, but whatever.
00:33:33.000 It's been a success because the crime rate dropped that Chicago, New York, all these big cities are doing it now. 0.96
00:33:38.000 So not only are you going to have the NSA listening to your phone calls and your fucking, you know, whatever, your social media, everything. 0.88
00:33:46.000 But you're going to be filmed and listened to everywhere you go. 0.98
00:33:49.000 And that's not 1984. That makes 1984 look like a fucking children's fairy tale. 0.99
00:33:58.000 You're always going to be watched every fucking thing that you ever do. 0.99
00:34:03.000 If that's not the definition of a police state, I don't know what is. 0.98
00:34:06.000 No, it's most certainly the definition of a police state, and it's almost inevitable because of the expanding reach of technology.
00:34:12.000 Correct.
00:34:13.000 Once they have the ability to send drones everywhere they want to, they're going to have drones that are the size of bugs.
00:34:19.000 They're going to have HD capability.
00:34:22.000 You're a smart dude because I was just at this tech conference and there's all these CEOs and this thing and we were talking about it and I got into a fight with one of these big dudes there, an old dude, big powerful guy, and he said, you know, who wouldn't jail Snowden?
00:34:36.000 I said, me, I wouldn't jail him.
00:34:38.000 What's the difference between Snowden and Woodward and Bernstein?
00:34:41.000 Woodward and Bernstein...
00:34:43.000 And the presidential papers, like they were the punks of their generation, but now they're heroes because it's the baby boomers and Snowden's... 1.00
00:34:49.000 Fuck you. 1.00
00:34:50.000 What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 1.00
00:34:52.000 Anyway, we got into this fight.
00:34:54.000 What's his argument?
00:34:57.000 It was just, he's bad.
00:35:01.000 The same argument.
00:35:03.000 He's weak in this country. 1.00
00:35:06.000 He's a traitor. 1.00
00:35:07.000 I'd kill myself if I was in front of him. 1.00
00:35:09.000 And so we got into this fight.
00:35:12.000 But the interesting thing about that is, A, the fact that a lot of people whistleblowing is seen as un-American.
00:35:21.000 I see it as that's what's going to keep democracy safe.
00:35:26.000 But this sort of overreaching, and I said, look, I didn't come to America for it to live in a police state, and this is the definition of a police state, is that they can watch everything that we do.
00:35:36.000 And it was all these tech guys, and the tech guys just sort of rolled their eyes and said, it's already happened.
00:35:43.000 The tech is already there.
00:35:45.000 The government has already made the deals.
00:35:47.000 It's a de facto thing.
00:35:48.000 You can't change it.
00:35:50.000 And then I got kind of worried because you're exactly right.
00:35:53.000 You're 100% right. 0.99
00:35:54.000 The tech is so pervasive that you can't fuck with it. 0.76
00:35:58.000 Well, there's also a future tech that they're working on that is essentially tiny Wi-Fi-powered cameras that are the size of grains of sand. 0.91
00:36:06.000 Sure.
00:36:06.000 And they're going to scatter them.
00:36:08.000 Nanotechnology.
00:36:08.000 Yeah, they're going to scatter them all throughout cities.
00:36:11.000 And they will literally have access to video, audio, everything...
00:36:16.000 From these grains of sand that'll be all over the beaches, they'll tune into them.
00:36:20.000 If you go to Camden, it's already happened.
00:36:23.000 That's the whole scary thing.
00:36:24.000 So it's a battleground for testing.
00:36:26.000 It isn't science fiction anymore.
00:36:28.000 They can triangulate sound from any point in the city, like inside houses.
00:36:35.000 Like anywhere.
00:36:36.000 They can listen to anything. 1.00
00:36:38.000 And you're just like, holy fuck. 0.99
00:36:41.000 For those of us who get up to some nefarious activities, that's not great news. 1.00
00:36:45.000 Well, even not so nefarious activities, like people who like to fuck in public. 0.98
00:36:50.000 Have you seen that video? 0.98
00:36:51.000 There's a video to this couple on St. Patrick's Day.
00:36:54.000 They were banging behind a dumpster.
00:36:56.000 And these people drove by and got video of it, put the video online, and now the cops are looking for these people.
00:37:02.000 No. 1.00
00:37:03.000 Like, oh, you're going to save us from the bad people that like to fuck? 0.99
00:37:08.000 But that's the problem is, okay, so now we have information about everybody at all time. 0.99
00:37:15.000 What are we going to do with that information?
00:37:17.000 Right. 0.95
00:37:17.000 You know that some bureaucrat, major, general, captain, some bullshit artist is going to be sitting behind some computer thing saying, you know what? 0.95
00:37:24.000 I think that's bullshit. 1.00
00:37:25.000 I'm going to fucking take that guy away. 1.00
00:37:26.000 That's a police state. 1.00
00:37:27.000 That can't happen.
00:37:28.000 Yeah, well, it's gonna, unfortunately. 0.99
00:37:31.000 But then democracy goes out the fucking window. 0.99
00:37:34.000 I think it goes out the window anyway. 0.99
00:37:35.000 I think it's gonna shift.
00:37:37.000 It's gonna shift, but...
00:37:37.000 Is this turning into a depressing...
00:37:39.000 No, no, it's not.
00:37:40.000 But here's the issue.
00:37:41.000 Because what's going to happen is the same thing that has sort of happened with cellular... 0.68
00:37:46.000 I mean, obviously, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, just as a caveat here.
00:37:50.000 What's going to happen is the same thing that's happening with cellular communication. 0.89
00:37:54.000 At one point in time, cellular communication was a giant brick that you had to hang on to. 0.79
00:37:59.000 You used to have a fucking suitcase you carried around with them, you'd hold them in your... 0.90
00:38:03.000 And now you can go to the Amazon and people have cell phones. 0.99
00:38:06.000 You can go to the poorest third world countries and people have cell phones.
00:38:10.000 I think that right now, the information, the access to all this stuff, the ability to know what's going on everywhere all the time is terrifying to us because we don't possess it.
00:38:20.000 The only people that possess it are the people like the NSA or the people that are monitoring Camden.
00:38:25.000 Eventually, that technology will become so pervasive it'll be like Wikipedia.
00:38:29.000 It'll be like everything else.
00:38:31.000 It'll be all the time.
00:38:32.000 And you will have no privacy.
00:38:35.000 But they will have no privacy either.
00:38:37.000 You know who's going to have privacy?
00:38:38.000 No one.
00:38:39.000 I don't believe that.
00:38:40.000 I believe the rich will have privacy because they'll be able to pay for tech. 0.57
00:38:44.000 That can protect them.
00:38:45.000 They'll try. 1.00
00:38:47.000 New shit will come up. 0.99
00:38:48.000 You're going to have a phone. 0.99
00:38:50.000 They're going to know where your phone is.
00:38:51.000 You're going to have an internet connection.
00:38:52.000 This is going to be blocking technology.
00:38:54.000 I'm going to take it to another place.
00:38:55.000 I think it's going to get even crazier than that.
00:38:57.000 Because I think that when I extrapolate, when I get really high and I think about this, especially when I get into the tank, I come into this one conclusion.
00:39:06.000 And this one conclusion is that money in its current form It's not resource-based.
00:39:11.000 The economy is essentially based on confidence and numbers.
00:39:15.000 Well, that's just information.
00:39:17.000 And at a certain point in time, technology is going to hit a bottleneck.
00:39:22.000 And that bottleneck is going to be money.
00:39:24.000 The bottleneck is that technology, as it progresses, So what are your thoughts on Bitcoin?
00:39:47.000 Well, I think that's a part of it.
00:39:48.000 I think that's just one part of it.
00:39:50.000 You know, I think Bitcoin is being for sure tampered with. 0.99
00:39:54.000 For sure fucked with. 0.97
00:39:55.000 I think all these people like this guy that had the Mt. 1.00
00:39:58.000 Gox and fucking $300 million goes away and it's crashed.
00:40:02.000 That is most likely a bunch of things. 0.99
00:40:05.000 I'm sure incompetence. 0.80
00:40:06.000 I'm sure shitty programming. 0.68
00:40:08.000 Probably sabotage. 0.91
00:40:10.000 Let's be honest.
00:40:11.000 If they really thought that it's possible for a new currency to come along...
00:40:15.000 Antonopoulos is coming back on again, too.
00:40:17.000 Yeah, he's coming back on soon, in April.
00:40:20.000 Without a doubt, someone would step in and try to do that.
00:40:24.000 Why would they not try to do that?
00:40:26.000 Were they going to just sit by and twiddle their thumbs and hope that their money is good enough to compete? 0.99
00:40:30.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:40:31.000 These are criminals. 1.00
00:40:32.000 These are fucking swashbucklers and buccaneers. 1.00
00:40:35.000 They're assholes. 1.00
00:40:36.000 They're digital buccaneers. 1.00
00:40:37.000 And just like the same people send people out to diminish climate reports by leaving shitty comments, they're going to also go after Bitcoin any way they can. 0.99
00:40:47.000 Did you hear about this Silk Road shit that happened? 0.99
00:40:50.000 Yes, yes. 1.00
00:40:51.000 What?
00:40:52.000 Did you do anything on that?
00:40:53.000 We're doing a film on it right now.
00:40:55.000 For folks who don't know what Silk Road is, tell them what it is and what happened.
00:40:59.000 Well, I'm not the biggest expert in the world.
00:41:01.000 We're doing a film on it, and so I only know the sort of pitch versions.
00:41:05.000 What's a website?
00:41:07.000 Yeah, it's a website.
00:41:08.000 It was a service that was the dark web. 1.00
00:41:13.000 A lot of shit went down. 0.99
00:41:15.000 And basically, where they made their money was it was a door-to-door drug dealing service where they made the majority of their cash. 1.00
00:41:22.000 And it was high quality.
00:41:23.000 They guaranteed the quality.
00:41:25.000 And you didn't have to leave your house and someone would come and they would take a sort of charge on both sides.
00:41:31.000 And they would like deliver coke and guns to your house. 1.00
00:41:34.000 Correct.
00:41:34.000 Anything.
00:41:36.000 Anything.
00:41:36.000 It was like dark web sort of Craigslist.
00:41:39.000 Like murder even.
00:41:40.000 Well, so this is where it gets interesting is the guy who started, he started when he was like 21 years old.
00:41:45.000 He's like this nice kid or whatever.
00:41:47.000 Apparently a real nice kid.
00:41:48.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:41:49.000 They talk to his parents and shit. 0.99
00:41:51.000 They're like, we're such a nice boy! 1.00
00:41:53.000 Now he's living in the North Pole with your fucking reporters, hiding under an igloo. 1.00
00:41:58.000 Now he's 20 stories down in the CIA building. 1.00
00:42:02.000 They got him.
00:42:03.000 This is my favorite part of the story.
00:42:06.000 He's a young kid, right? 0.94
00:42:07.000 He sets up Silk Road, which is basically a sort of peer-to-peer, whatever the fuck you want to have happen on the second economy. 0.97
00:42:17.000 A lot of drugs. 0.80
00:42:17.000 Basically drugs. 0.80
00:42:18.000 But yes, there was arms.
00:42:20.000 Anything sort of illegal was going through this thing.
00:42:25.000 Now, what happened was, you know, very cinematographic moment.
00:42:32.000 He's in a public library, right?
00:42:35.000 Using the public Wi-Fi.
00:42:37.000 He's running the whole thing from his laptop.
00:42:38.000 And they know if he closes the laptop...
00:42:46.000 We're good to go.
00:42:54.000 And they're all watching this kid, he's a really young guy, as he's running this Silk Road thing.
00:43:00.000 And they had to get him before he closed his laptop.
00:43:03.000 So he literally stood up to grab something and the whole library went into motion and they got him.
00:43:10.000 Now what they found out was...
00:43:12.000 He was just a guy trying to run a business.
00:43:14.000 He's like, okay, you know, you bring the drugs here and you bring the drugs there. 0.99
00:43:17.000 And if people started fucking with the business, much like Bitcoin and shit, they started trying to fuck with it. 1.00
00:43:23.000 And, you know, by the way, you deal with a lot of criminals. 1.00
00:43:25.000 They're going to do some criminal shit. 0.99
00:43:26.000 They're going to try to put it over on you. 1.00
00:43:28.000 Now, one of the things that Silk Road did was it was like a Craigslist for like Hitman and shit. 0.69
00:43:32.000 So he was like, okay, you're on my Silk Road. 0.94
00:43:36.000 I'm going to...
00:43:37.000 This guy's bad for Silk Road. 1.00
00:43:39.000 He's dealing shitty heroin or he's being bad or he's saying some shit. 1.00
00:43:42.000 So he just would have them killed. 1.00
00:43:44.000 Allegedly. 1.00
00:43:45.000 Allegedly would have them killed.
00:43:46.000 Because he was trying to maintain the sort of quality of his product. 0.99
00:43:49.000 So there was assassinations, hitmen, arms dealing, drug dealing, all on this sort of dark web shit that was going on. 0.93
00:43:57.000 Then they caught the... 0.97
00:43:59.000 Is there an earthquake?
00:44:00.000 Is there an earthquake?
00:44:02.000 What are you doing?
00:44:02.000 Is that like an effect?
00:44:03.000 I was going to switch cameras, but then it was... 0.99
00:44:05.000 I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99
00:44:06.000 Is this an effect? 1.00
00:44:07.000 Is this a new artistic angle?
00:44:08.000 What I find interesting about this is it's just an example of this whole second economy, the grey economy, the black economy, black market, that some people have estimated is up to a quarter to a half of what the global economy is because if you put in all the drugs that are dealt in the world,
00:44:25.000 All the arms that are dealt in the world, right?
00:44:28.000 All the secondary quote-unquote gray electronics, the seconds, the stolen IP that's coming out of China.
00:44:37.000 All of that stuff, because if you go to India, everything is a $20 pirated smartphone, right? 0.96
00:44:44.000 Hundreds of millions of these fucking things have been sold. 0.99
00:44:47.000 All of this gray economy is being run somehow, and there's Bitcoin, and there's Silk Road, and there's all these different crazy fucking things that are out there running this shit. 1.00
00:44:54.000 And that's why I was talking. 0.99
00:44:56.000 I agree with you.
00:44:56.000 I agree with what you're saying because All money is now is just data.
00:45:01.000 This bank has this many credits and that bank has that and we swap them up.
00:45:05.000 It's not based on a gold standard.
00:45:07.000 It's not based on anything.
00:45:09.000 And so Bitcoin or virtual currencies are interesting, but they can be hacked as we just saw in Japan.
00:45:17.000 But also, what can you actually buy and sell with them?
00:45:23.000 Because what they're doing is they're actually using the old drug dealers or slash terrorists.
00:45:31.000 I've got some corn in Tunisia and you've got some flax in Pakistan and those will just be wiped out and somebody then in Afghanistan will get a case of AK-47s. 0.95
00:45:45.000 And that's what Bitcoin and that's what Silk Road and that's what a lot of these things ended up doing.
00:45:50.000 And didn't one guy wind up going to jail because he gave bitcoins or he sold bitcoins to someone who wound up using those bitcoins to buy drugs?
00:46:04.000 See, this is the deal.
00:46:05.000 And that's a very good point.
00:46:07.000 He didn't even buy the drugs.
00:46:09.000 Because after 9-11, what happened was the...
00:46:13.000 Government said, and by the way, they pretty much know everything.
00:46:18.000 So they went into mutual funds.
00:46:20.000 They went into Switzerland.
00:46:22.000 I have a house in Costa Rica, and there was this development fund in Costa Rica.
00:46:26.000 A lot of foreigners go down there and retire there, and they were investing in the country.
00:46:33.000 But because one guy in the fund had ties to a drug cartel, they just took all the money.
00:46:40.000 It was like two and a half billion dollars.
00:46:41.000 They just took, oh, well it's a drug laundering fund, so we're going to take all the money.
00:46:45.000 So all these gringos lost all their retirement funds. 1.00
00:46:47.000 Whoa.
00:46:48.000 And by the way, what's interesting about that.
00:46:50.000 Who took that money?
00:46:50.000 The American government.
00:46:51.000 Sure.
00:46:52.000 After 9-11.
00:46:53.000 And by the way, they took trillions of dollars doing this.
00:46:56.000 It's not on the books.
00:46:58.000 It's not on the books because they just took it in.
00:47:00.000 So what do they do with it?
00:47:01.000 Well, there you go.
00:47:03.000 They're allowed to do whatever they want to do?
00:47:05.000 Right after that, they went around everywhere and they used the world's sympathy to say, okay, now we're going to take this money.
00:47:11.000 We know it's drug laundering.
00:47:12.000 We know this is this.
00:47:13.000 We know this is this.
00:47:13.000 We know this is this.
00:47:14.000 We're going to take it all.
00:47:15.000 And they just took it all.
00:47:16.000 Wow.
00:47:18.000 How hilarious is that?
00:47:19.000 They use terrorism.
00:47:21.000 They use mass murder as a pretense of stealing drug dealers' money.
00:47:26.000 And everybody else is around.
00:47:28.000 Like, if I invested in this thing, and then some dude I never even met invested, who one time dealt drugs, then they get to take my money too.
00:47:35.000 Do you know what that, there's a quote about capitalizing on any sort of a moment that it's...
00:47:43.000 Negative moment.
00:47:43.000 Well, any negative moment that it becomes even more negative if you don't capitalize on it.
00:47:47.000 That's the idea behind almost every government.
00:47:50.000 They don't look at negative moments and any sort of a mass casualty event.
00:47:54.000 They don't look at it as just a tragedy.
00:47:56.000 They also look at it as an opportunity to use that tragedy to further whatever ideas they have.
00:48:03.000 Realpolitik, zero-sum game politics.
00:48:05.000 There is a winner and there is a loser and I'm going to be the winner.
00:48:08.000 Yeah.
00:48:08.000 I think what we're dealing with right now is the adolescence of the emergence of instant technology, the emergence of instant information.
00:48:17.000 And right now, it's only a few people that have their greasy paws on this kind of shit. 0.92
00:48:22.000 And when Edward Snowden comes out with all this data, when WikiLeaks comes out with all this data, and then everybody's like, wait, what? 0.99
00:48:29.000 I've been calling this generation the wait what generation. 0.52
00:48:33.000 Because I feel like that's what's going on.
00:48:35.000 I feel like a lot of us are in the middle of going, wait, wait, what?
00:48:38.000 What I like about it is that it's proof.
00:48:41.000 You sit there and you say, oh, it's not true?
00:48:43.000 Here it is.
00:48:45.000 Here's the NSA. Here's the FBI. Here's the CIA. These are the files.
00:48:49.000 This is what it says.
00:48:50.000 Here's the proof.
00:48:52.000 Yeah, and it is. 0.98
00:48:53.000 I mean, people used to call Alex Jones a fucking complete crazy person, and it's weird when a ranting lunatic is right 90% of the time. 0.97
00:49:01.000 That's scary. 0.99
00:49:02.000 That's when it gets scary. 1.00
00:49:03.000 He's right about so much shit. 0.99
00:49:05.000 I mean, so much of what he called in the 90s, by the way, when I met him, I met him in 98, and he was calling all this shit. 0.99
00:49:12.000 He was saying, they're going to be monitoring your emails. 0.98
00:49:14.000 I'm like, what the fuck are they going to get from my email? 0.95
00:49:17.000 You know, where I'm going to go to do comedy? 0.95
00:49:19.000 What are you going to get?
00:49:20.000 100% true.
00:49:21.000 Yeah, I mean, what we're dealing with right now is a few people that have this power.
00:49:26.000 And I think it's gonna come down to a point in time where as this technology increases, if you just looked at it, don't look at it in the context of culture, don't look in the context of what we're accustomed to as far as our, you know, expectations of privacy, but instead look at it as it's a wave that's moving in a certain direction.
00:49:43.000 Well, where's it going?
00:49:44.000 What's it doing?
00:49:45.000 It's moving in a direction.
00:49:47.000 What's the direction?
00:49:48.000 Well, the direction is information being passed freely.
00:49:50.000 What's money?
00:49:51.000 Information.
00:49:52.000 What's going to happen?
00:49:53.000 It's going to hit a roadblock.
00:49:54.000 And the roadblock is people want to keep a hold of their money.
00:49:56.000 They want to control the money.
00:49:58.000 There's going to be no control over the money.
00:50:00.000 The whole thing is about access.
00:50:02.000 The whole thing is about access to this information.
00:50:05.000 And as this whole thing grows and expands and becomes more powerful and more prevalent and more pervasive, it's going to reach a bottleneck.
00:50:14.000 And I think that bottleneck is money.
00:50:15.000 I really do.
00:50:16.000 So I've got another question.
00:50:18.000 Re-money.
00:50:19.000 Mm-hmm.
00:50:21.000 2008, right?
00:50:22.000 Recession.
00:50:24.000 What sparks out of that is riots in Europe, Arab Spring all across the Middle East, riots in Southeast Asia, riots in South America, riots around the world by Gen Y, because they completely disenfranchised no future. 0.98
00:50:40.000 You take someone's future away, what they're going to do, they're going to smash shit up. 0.95
00:50:43.000 Why wouldn't they? 0.97
00:50:44.000 That's what revolution has been historically.
00:50:46.000 Okay. 1.00
00:50:48.000 So now, you know, China's fucked. 1.00
00:50:52.000 They're slowing down and they're in real trouble. 0.99
00:50:55.000 India's rupee is collapsing.
00:50:58.000 You know, it's not a question of if it's a question of when.
00:51:04.000 What happens when you have another economic downturn and the people who have been sort of treading water and just are starting to see some light go down again? 0.97
00:51:15.000 What happens then on an economic level when you have these young people who have been fucked for the past eight years say, okay, fuck, I'm going to have to tighten my belt for another eight. 0.96
00:51:26.000 I don't know what the economy is. 0.99
00:51:29.000 I don't understand it.
00:51:31.000 When you talk about one house being worth $5 million and one house being worth, in Detroit, $500, and this is a valuable place to live, and this guy gets paid $100,000 for the same job that this woman gets paid $30,000 for,
00:51:50.000 and they both work the same amount of hours.
00:51:52.000 At a certain point in time, it's like, what is our economy?
00:51:55.000 It's a construct.
00:51:56.000 Well, what are we selling?
00:51:57.000 What are we buying?
00:51:59.000 And where is it all coming from?
00:52:01.000 It's a construct.
00:52:01.000 We made it up.
00:52:02.000 Right.
00:52:03.000 But here's the question.
00:52:05.000 If it worked in 2006, okay?
00:52:07.000 In 2006, if everything was rosy and people were buying houses and everything was great, you'd buy a house, you'd sell it a year later, you'd make 50 grand.
00:52:16.000 What is that?
00:52:17.000 What...
00:52:18.000 What's different now?
00:52:20.000 What's different now?
00:52:21.000 You talk to people that are economic experts and they give you some sort of an explanation of how people extracted money from the system, how the banks banked on the fact that the loans they were giving...
00:52:34.000 And then somehow they made money.
00:52:35.000 What does that mean?
00:52:37.000 What does it mean?
00:52:38.000 The same people are working.
00:52:40.000 There's the same amount of stuff.
00:52:42.000 There's the same amount of cars.
00:52:43.000 There's the same amount of buildings.
00:52:46.000 There's roughly the same amount of furniture. 0.93
00:52:48.000 What the fuck is going on that all of a sudden everything's terrible and no one can get a job? 0.87
00:52:52.000 What I love... 0.99
00:52:54.000 I mean, I'm obviously being very simplistic about this.
00:52:57.000 What I love about it is recently somebody came up.
00:53:01.000 It's a very good idea, by the way.
00:53:03.000 To try to explain economic disparity.
00:53:07.000 And there was a time when the aristocrats who were, you know, benighted by God, and they owned everything and everybody else worked for them.
00:53:15.000 That's how it worked. 1.00
00:53:16.000 They could fuck the firstborn daughters before they got married. 1.00
00:53:20.000 They could do whatever they want. 1.00
00:53:20.000 They were the law. 1.00
00:53:21.000 They collected the taxes.
00:53:23.000 It was a mafia system.
00:53:25.000 We collect the tax here and pay up to the king over there.
00:53:28.000 What's interesting is they just did a thing on there's more economic disparity today than during the Downton Abbey era of the aristocracy owned everything and everybody else was like, you know, screw, which is when the,
00:53:43.000 you know, Soviet revolution started and the big socialist wave around the world because the aristocrats owned everything.
00:53:50.000 And there's more economic disparity today than there was then. 0.94
00:53:54.000 Is it because the people, like the people that know how to fuck with money, the 1%, they just have accumulated insane, impossible to imagine wealth? 0.96
00:54:03.000 The aristocrats were given. 0.99
00:54:05.000 Right.
00:54:05.000 They were God-given, right?
00:54:06.000 We own the land.
00:54:07.000 Because at the time it was horizontal production, as I have to make more carrots, you know?
00:54:12.000 And so the only way of getting more carrots was to have more land.
00:54:15.000 So I took over your land.
00:54:16.000 That's why there was constant warfare.
00:54:17.000 Then it went to vertical production, which is technology.
00:54:20.000 So now whoever owns this sort of technological means can sort of, you know, write their own ticket.
00:54:25.000 So you're exactly right.
00:54:26.000 So the 1% now... 0.93
00:54:28.000 I know how to game the system better than most.
00:54:33.000 Well, here, to put it into perspective, what we were talking about earlier when I was saying that I don't understand the economy.
00:54:38.000 I mean, I understand competition.
00:54:40.000 I understand if one person is better at their job, they should make more than another person who's better at their job.
00:54:45.000 But when you look at...
00:54:47.000 Big money.
00:54:48.000 Big, crazy money.
00:54:50.000 Where's it coming from a lot of times?
00:54:52.000 Who's capitalizing on it?
00:54:54.000 The people that work with big money.
00:54:56.000 Bankers.
00:54:57.000 Like, what are they doing exactly?
00:54:59.000 They're not digging holes. 0.97
00:55:00.000 I mean, what the fuck are they doing where they have a trillion dollars or whatever the fuck a Lehman Brothers guy has who has one of those giant 100-acre estates on the Hamptons? 0.97
00:55:11.000 Well, where... 0.99
00:55:11.000 Who are they? 0.99
00:55:12.000 Where do they make their money?
00:55:14.000 And this is very interesting.
00:55:15.000 Again, I'm going to put it into gambling terms because I'm a gambler.
00:55:19.000 If you could go to Vegas, right, and you could say, okay, I'm going to bet a billion dollars or a trillion dollars, but let's say a billion.
00:55:27.000 Let's say a million dollars.
00:55:28.000 I'm going to put a million dollars on black. 0.85
00:55:30.000 Well, I lost.
00:55:31.000 Okay, I'm going to write that off.
00:55:33.000 I'm going to put a billion dollars on black. 0.88
00:55:35.000 I lost again.
00:55:36.000 Okay, I'm going to write that off.
00:55:38.000 I put a billion dollars.
00:55:39.000 Oh, I won.
00:55:39.000 I get to keep that money.
00:55:40.000 Yeah.
00:55:42.000 I play that every day. 1.00
00:55:44.000 I would play that game every fucking day of the goddamn week. 1.00
00:55:47.000 But guess what? 1.00
00:55:48.000 They don't let you do that game in Vegas, but they let you do that game on Wall Street.
00:55:52.000 It's unbelievable.
00:55:53.000 It's so hard to wrap your head around when you really try to think about the amount of money being exchanged.
00:56:00.000 That's mind-boggling.
00:56:01.000 It's mind-boggling.
00:56:02.000 The fact that this argument was thrown about that they're too big to fail, and then the government comes in and bails them out.
00:56:10.000 Taxpayers.
00:56:10.000 The government doesn't have any money.
00:56:12.000 They steal it from the taxpayers.
00:56:13.000 The government gets its money from taxpayers, and that's what...
00:56:17.000 You know, I just did this thing on Afghanistan, but that's the tip of the iceberg is how much money the government throws away. 1.00
00:56:26.000 And by the way, I pay a shit pile of fucking tax. 1.00
00:56:29.000 So when I see that, I'm like, oh, well, my tax just went down the fucking toilet. 1.00
00:56:34.000 Like thrown away in what way? 0.99
00:56:35.000 What do you mean?
00:56:37.000 Well, so for example, the piece I did in Afghanistan is we've spent $100 billion in reconstruction there, and the majority of it, if not all of it, has just been flushed down the toilet.
00:56:48.000 For example, a billion dollars were spent on helicopters that don't fly.
00:56:52.000 You know, billions of dollars are spent on culvert denial systems.
00:57:01.000 This is a long story, but basically to try to stop IEDs from being put into culvert...
00:57:05.000 They were never built.
00:57:06.000 We're paying money directly into the Taliban's hands. 0.75
00:57:08.000 We build power plants that are never used because they're inefficient and too expensive because they use diesel.
00:57:15.000 You can't power power plants with diesel.
00:57:18.000 And by the way, guess who collects the fees are the Taliban because the places where we go in to collect the fees are too dangerous to actually go into. 0.75
00:57:27.000 So we're just throwing hundreds of billions of dollars down the top.
00:57:31.000 That's just Afghanistan. 0.98
00:57:32.000 Not to mention Iraq, not to mention, by the way, DOD, not to mention here in America, etc., etc., So you sit there and you say, we're paying all this money in tax.
00:57:40.000 Taxes are going up, up, up, up, up. 0.99
00:57:42.000 And where the fuck is the money going? 0.99
00:57:44.000 The money's going into the fucking toilet many cases. 0.99
00:57:47.000 And you sit there and you say, that's not fucking good, man. 0.99
00:57:50.000 No. 0.99
00:57:50.000 That's not good. 0.99
00:57:51.000 And it's a sort of a symptom of what happens when money's there.
00:57:55.000 When money's there and it's legal to extract it, all of a sudden a bunch of people start going, well...
00:58:01.000 Well, I think unless we question...
00:58:04.000 It's our money.
00:58:05.000 See, this is the whole basis of democracy.
00:58:07.000 It's our government and it's our money.
00:58:11.000 And what's happening now is the government is acting with impunity, with no...
00:58:16.000 And like you said, I'm like, what about climate change?
00:58:18.000 What about war?
00:58:19.000 What about all of a sudden you're like, well, people feel disenfranchised.
00:58:22.000 They can't do anything about it.
00:58:23.000 A. B. It's their money that people are spending and...
00:58:28.000 And we're going, well, fuck, they shouldn't be spending $78,000 hammers. 0.99
00:58:32.000 That's not fucking cool. 0.99
00:58:33.000 Well, the basis of democracy is you don't do that. 0.92
00:58:36.000 The basis of democracy is you can't do that. 0.97
00:58:39.000 But what's happening now, and this is what I find another problem in our modern age, is, okay, this is a fucking huge problem. 0.93
00:58:48.000 Yet we feel we can't do anything about it. 0.84
00:58:52.000 And I've said this before, and now I'm into my drink, so I'm going to say it again.
00:58:56.000 That's why these podcasts are important.
00:58:59.000 That's why media is important.
00:59:01.000 That's why journalism is important.
00:59:03.000 Look, you started out in a different way.
00:59:05.000 You came at this from a different way.
00:59:06.000 I came at this from a different way. 0.98
00:59:08.000 The reason why we're doing this now is because we're frustrated and we're saying, look, I don't want to talk about, you know, shoes fucking every day of the week. 0.99
00:59:16.000 You don't want to just do stand-up or your MMA shit, both of which are amazing, but you want to do something, holy fuck, dudes, I'm going to fucking talk about shit because this shit is important. 0.97
00:59:26.000 The reason why we have to do that is because we can't be complacent. 0.99
00:59:30.000 We can't just sit there and say, you know what, fuck, it's too much money or it's too much shit because they are taking money to do bad things with it. 0.99
00:59:36.000 They're taking our fucking freedoms and spying on us with the NSA. And it's guys like you and guys like me and guys like, by the way, everybody out there and the fucking Death Squad and Red Band and all these motherfuckers. 1.00
00:59:47.000 And we have to be the ones to get out there on a grassroots movement and say, fuck you. 1.00
00:59:51.000 Stop fucking tapping my phone. 1.00
00:59:53.000 Stop taking my money to fucking throw down into the Taliban's hands in Afghanistan. 1.00
00:59:57.000 Stop this shit because unless we do, then there's going to be no more democracy in America. 1.00
01:00:01.000 I think you're certainly right in some ways. 1.00
01:00:03.000 And I think also what's going on is this idea of us versus them is completely ridiculous.
01:00:08.000 And I think people that are in positions of power are going to be forced to realize this.
01:00:12.000 You are us.
01:00:13.000 All of you people that are congressmen, all you people that are senators, all you people that are mayors, all you people that are cops...
01:00:20.000 You are us.
01:00:21.000 There is no us and them. 0.99
01:00:23.000 Correct.
01:00:24.000 Especially when you're dealing with those sort of positions, positions of political power, positions of authority, that you are us.
01:00:32.000 You're not even profiting off of this.
01:00:34.000 If you want to put yourself into a position where you sell your soul to profit off it, then you're not us.
01:00:41.000 But for right now, anybody jockeying into any sort of a political position, understand that it doesn't have to be this way.
01:00:50.000 Understand that you are us and that you are people who have wives and children and families and jobs and dogs and property. 0.63
01:00:57.000 At the end of the day, we're all human.
01:00:58.000 We're all human.
01:00:59.000 And I believe that we can somehow or another construct an economy that's based on ethics and morals.
01:01:06.000 I really do.
01:01:07.000 I don't think there's anything that says that everybody has to be greedy. 0.96
01:01:10.000 I don't think there's anything that says that people have to capitalize on every single fucking loophole and fuck everybody over along the way. 0.68
01:01:17.000 And I think one of the reasons why they've been allowed to do this or able to do this for so long is because of the lack of access to information. 0.96
01:01:25.000 I think they were able to secretly hide so much shitty wrongdoing in the past that it became policy.
01:01:33.000 It became habit. 0.62
01:01:35.000 It became what you were taught when you were young, when you joined a company.
01:01:38.000 Hey, this is how we do it. 0.99
01:01:39.000 You want to fucking play golf with us and drive a Ferrari? 0.99
01:01:42.000 All right, I'm in. 1.00
01:01:43.000 And next thing you know, you're compromised.
01:01:45.000 Just sort of like Leonardo DiCaprio's character was compromised in The Wolf of Wall Street.
01:01:49.000 I don't know if that's how it actually happened in real life.
01:01:51.000 Right.
01:01:52.000 But he started in with good ideas and was invested into a completely corrupt system and then became a part of it and became a part of the corruption.
01:02:01.000 That is essentially, most likely, what happens in every form of government.
01:02:06.000 Essentially, there's good people that eventually join this thing and then realize, oh, this is a completely compromised movement.
01:02:14.000 There's no way to fix it.
01:02:15.000 I'll just be one of those guys and I'll drink every night and take Xanax.
01:02:19.000 I think it's going to.
01:02:21.000 It has to stop.
01:02:21.000 I think it has to.
01:02:22.000 I agree.
01:02:23.000 But I also think it's going to stop because you're not going to be able to just write it off.
01:02:28.000 It's going to be everyone.
01:02:30.000 The same reason why you can spy on people in Camden, New Jersey, that is the echo of a future event that's going to happen that's going to remove all privacy.
01:02:41.000 And it is inevitable.
01:02:42.000 But I'm going to say, on a personal level, you've done well.
01:02:46.000 I've done well. 0.98
01:02:48.000 We're two guys sort of sitting at the nice end of the spectrum saying, hey, it's got to fucking change. 0.96
01:02:54.000 If you and I are saying it's got to change and we're at the winning end of the fucking scratch-a-win... 0.96
01:02:59.000 Then guess what? 1.00
01:03:00.000 Shit is fucked up. 1.00
01:03:01.000 I agree that you and I, we're both comfortable. 1.00
01:03:05.000 We don't have to worry about feeding ourselves or housing our families.
01:03:08.000 But what happens at a certain point in time when you make enough money that you don't have to worry about your bills, you, at least I, start contemplating what is important.
01:03:19.000 Correct.
01:03:20.000 What's important, this is so corny, but what's important is love.
01:03:24.000 What's important is friendship.
01:03:26.000 What's important is, you know, it's nice to walk down the street and say hi to your neighbor if your neighbor's happy. 0.95
01:03:33.000 If your neighbor is being held at fucking gunpoint and they're dragging him in the house, it's not so fun to say hi to your neighbor. 1.00
01:03:39.000 Oh, hi neighbor, you have a gun to your head. 1.00
01:03:41.000 Oh, sorry. 0.99
01:03:42.000 What did you do wrong?
01:03:43.000 Yeah, I'm over here.
01:03:45.000 Sorry, I'm having a great time.
01:03:46.000 I'm going to go watch TV. I didn't do anything wrong.
01:03:48.000 The game's about to be on.
01:03:50.000 It's only fun if everybody's having fun.
01:03:53.000 That's what community is all about.
01:03:55.000 It's one of the reasons why human beings evolved into the point where we're at right now to the point where we have cities and cultures.
01:04:04.000 We had to make it at least safe enough that everybody could coexist and share.
01:04:07.000 Well, we grew up in a village mentality. 0.99
01:04:09.000 We all grew up in villages and everybody hung out together, went to the pub together and did all this shit together. 0.99
01:04:14.000 That's how we operated our best. 0.99
01:04:16.000 Exactly.
01:04:16.000 And then we sort of separated into this sort of Suburban thing.
01:04:20.000 But now, it's like, you're exactly right.
01:04:23.000 It's this community.
01:04:24.000 We're part of this community.
01:04:25.000 What I find interesting, and every time I do this podcast, I'm always blown away by it, is there's so many people out there that think exactly the same way.
01:04:34.000 And we all sort of believe the same things and think the same things, and we're all interested in the same things or pissed off about the same things. 0.97
01:04:41.000 Yet, like that's millions and millions of people, literally millions of fucking people. 0.99
01:04:46.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99
01:04:47.000 And yet it's, there's this sort of frustration as to what the fuck you do with that. 0.99
01:04:52.000 Yes. 0.98
01:04:53.000 What does that mean?
01:04:54.000 Well, there's never been anything to do before.
01:04:55.000 You had to wait for representatives to do you justice.
01:04:58.000 You had to vote for people that were going to disappoint you.
01:05:00.000 You had to get yourself to the polls and hope that all your bitching and moaning at work and all your, you know, reading the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times, somehow or another made a difference.
01:05:11.000 And most of the time it didn't.
01:05:12.000 It didn't.
01:05:13.000 Because there was walls.
01:05:14.000 It didn't and it doesn't.
01:05:15.000 What's the wall, though, that's not there anymore?
01:05:18.000 The wall is the distribution of information.
01:05:20.000 The same thing we're talking about with money.
01:05:22.000 Podcast is essentially just a distribution of information device that's never been available before.
01:05:27.000 Vice is a distribution of information device that's never been available before.
01:05:33.000 There was never... 0.97
01:05:33.000 Some crazy fucks from Canada that were going to the Congo looking for dinosaurs and talking to cannibals in Liberia. 0.97
01:05:39.000 That shit never happened, man. 1.00
01:05:42.000 True. 1.00
01:05:42.000 The most radical shit you had was John Stossel asking a pro wrestler whether or not he was real and getting smacked in the head. 1.00
01:05:48.000 Oh my god, he hit him in the head! 0.99
01:05:50.000 That was like radical journalism on television, on mainstream television, just a few decades ago.
01:05:58.000 I mean, that was a hard-hitting journalist.
01:06:01.000 You know, there wasn't anybody.
01:06:03.000 You know, we're gonna go to Waco and watch from the background as the government takes Sherman tanks and rolls over houses.
01:06:10.000 But what's really going on there?
01:06:12.000 No one's going in. 0.99
01:06:13.000 No one's fucking playing guitar with David Koresh and finding out what the fuck is actually happening. 1.00
01:06:18.000 You guys, David Cho, would be sitting right next to David Koresh as they burnt that fucking building down. 1.00
01:06:23.000 You know, he'd be wearing asbestos underwear. 1.00
01:06:26.000 Jumping off the fucking roof with a camera, you know, running to you and you would upload it online. 0.99
01:06:31.000 True, true, true. 1.00
01:06:32.000 It's a different world.
01:06:33.000 A guy like you is not supposed to be in the position that you're in.
01:06:37.000 You're right.
01:06:38.000 It's true.
01:06:39.000 A guy like me is not supposed to be in the position I'm in.
01:06:42.000 Correct.
01:06:42.000 I'm easily marginalized.
01:06:44.000 I marginalize myself at every point in time I can. 0.99
01:06:47.000 I want everybody to know that I'm a fucking schmo. 0.97
01:06:51.000 The fact that you have a huge grassroots... 0.99
01:06:55.000 Uprising at your back pushing you is fucking amazing, which is why I love coming here. 0.68
01:07:01.000 Well, they just know that I'm a lightning rod. 0.98
01:07:03.000 That's all it is.
01:07:05.000 I'm exactly like everybody else. 0.99
01:07:07.000 You don't give a shit to say what you want to say. 1.00
01:07:10.000 I've been hitting the head too many times, dude. 1.00
01:07:12.000 There's something wrong with me.
01:07:13.000 I've got issues.
01:07:14.000 For sure.
01:07:16.000 I'm impulsive.
01:07:17.000 I don't make smart choices.
01:07:19.000 Come on. 0.99
01:07:19.000 What I love about you is you don't give a fuck. 0.99
01:07:22.000 You're going to tell the truth. 0.99
01:07:23.000 You're going to say whatever it is. 0.99
01:07:24.000 I wish that I could back you up on this, but the problem is I can't remember a time where I ever gave a fuck. 0.98
01:07:29.000 I don't really think it was a conscious decision. 0.97
01:07:32.000 That's good.
01:07:32.000 This lack of raising.
01:07:34.000 I was never raised.
01:07:35.000 I was raised by wolves.
01:07:37.000 I was thrown into the wild.
01:07:38.000 I think really that's what it is.
01:07:39.000 I never developed a sense of decor.
01:07:42.000 We're good to go.
01:08:00.000 I was never integrated into any system.
01:08:02.000 So it's almost like I was designed for this. 0.99
01:08:05.000 There's only one way to make someone who actually has money, who's so stupid, they'll say anything. 0.98
01:08:11.000 What's ironic about that is that you integrate so well because you're funny and people like you because you're funny. 0.98
01:08:16.000 You know more about MMA than anyone I've ever met in my life, which is the fastest growing sport in the world.
01:08:22.000 You're like the most politically astute dude around. 0.99
01:08:24.000 You know more about more shit than anyone I've ever met. 0.99
01:08:28.000 So you're saying I don't fit in? 1.00
01:08:30.000 You probably fit in better than anyone I've ever seen.
01:08:32.000 Well, it's the system that's broken.
01:08:34.000 It's not...
01:08:34.000 You're correct.
01:08:35.000 What I have been very fortunate is that I grew up like this in a time where you could access enormous amounts of information.
01:08:43.000 And during the last 20 years, because of this access to enormous amounts, my...
01:08:51.000 My perspective on the world has changed radically.
01:08:55.000 My view has broadened in an insane way that's impossible to describe.
01:09:02.000 But I think that I represent one portal that almost everyone who's a part of the system, whether they grew up in a way where they were forced to sort of integrate and they did things that I didn't do because they had a better upbringing,
01:09:18.000 whatever it was.
01:09:20.000 They also see it.
01:09:21.000 But my position, my job, is the lightning rod.
01:09:26.000 I'm the guy who's got a door open.
01:09:28.000 I'm like, come on, let's go.
01:09:29.000 I mean, that's all it is.
01:09:32.000 What you guys are doing is way crazy than what I'm doing.
01:09:35.000 What I'm doing is talking about what you guys are doing. 1.00
01:09:38.000 You're off going to fucking North Korea and having lunch with these fucking psychopaths. 1.00
01:09:42.000 And you're going to visit slave camps where they think they're in North Korea, but they're actually in Russia. 1.00
01:09:49.000 Was that where they are?
01:09:51.000 Yeah, Russia, yeah.
01:09:52.000 They think they're in North Korea, but they're actually in Russia.
01:09:54.000 Yeah, they're in slave concentration camps in North Korea, but they're actually in Russia doing slave labor.
01:10:02.000 Yeah, see, you're going to all these places like the North Pole.
01:10:05.000 Well, you're not going to see me there, but I'm the lightning rod.
01:10:08.000 I'll stay right here.
01:10:09.000 All right.
01:10:09.000 Keep the lights on.
01:10:11.000 Anytime you want to come by, we'll hit the switch and we'll broadcast.
01:10:15.000 Wow.
01:10:15.000 I love coming.
01:10:16.000 Has Vice done anything about the cove or anything about the dolphins' situation up in Japan?
01:10:21.000 Yeah.
01:10:22.000 I noticed your hat there.
01:10:23.000 Yeah.
01:10:24.000 We have, actually, and we're doing a lot more on Not just the cove, which is a tiny problem.
01:10:33.000 It's actually a global problem in the fact that we've overfished everything, so there's no more fish left.
01:10:39.000 And so now what we're doing is just, you know, completely...
01:10:43.000 The only fishermen left are the sort of, you know, the bad ones who are, like, pursuing and taking the whole...
01:10:51.000 Almost like pirates.
01:10:52.000 Exactly.
01:10:53.000 They take the whole...
01:11:00.000 We're good to go.
01:11:08.000 We're good to go.
01:11:25.000 So I'm from Canada originally.
01:11:27.000 And there was a time when the ships, the joke was the ships couldn't get through the Grand Banks off New Brunswick because there were so many fish.
01:11:38.000 There's no fish left anymore.
01:11:40.000 And by the way, you're people who deny everything. 0.99
01:11:43.000 They're like, the seals ate all the fucking fish. 1.00
01:11:46.000 Fucking seals. 1.00
01:11:47.000 So we should have the seal hunt. 1.00
01:11:48.000 It wasn't the Portuguese, the Japanese, the Canadians, the Americans who fucking persigned it for fucking 50 years and ate all the goddamn fish and threw everything else out. 0.99
01:11:57.000 No, it wasn't that. 1.00
01:11:58.000 It was the fucking seals. 0.99
01:11:59.000 Anyway, we have destroyed the fish stocks. 1.00
01:12:04.000 There's no more fucking fish. 0.99
01:12:07.000 Now everything has to be farmed, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 1.00
01:12:09.000 There's no more fish in the Grand Banks. 0.99
01:12:11.000 It was the biggest fish stocks in the fucking world. 0.99
01:12:14.000 Why? 0.99
01:12:15.000 Because we used to fish, you know, we used to fish a certain way. 0.99
01:12:18.000 Then we just said, fucking take all the fish. 0.99
01:12:20.000 Take everything. 1.00
01:12:21.000 Just scoop the fucking whole fucking side of the ocean and we'll just take it. 0.99
01:12:25.000 Is it because of just a need? 1.00
01:12:28.000 Economics.
01:12:28.000 People need more fish?
01:12:30.000 There's more people that need fish?
01:12:31.000 If you go to any store, this is an interesting thing that I, you go to any store in the world, any store, you can be in Congo, you can be in Australia, you can be in Vietnam, Myanmar, you can be here in America... 0.99
01:12:42.000 You know what they're gonna have on the shelf of any shitty bodega in the fucking world? 0.99
01:12:48.000 Tuna. 1.00
01:12:50.000 Canned tuna fish.
01:12:52.000 So it's like a staple.
01:12:53.000 And when you realize the stakes that we're talking now, like I was doing this piece on fake food in China.
01:13:01.000 They have fake eggs, right?
01:13:01.000 Yeah, what is that?
01:13:02.000 And I'm like, you have fake eggs.
01:13:04.000 So they're making a fake soy construct for the shell and a fake chemical thing for the thing and the yolk. 0.99
01:13:10.000 I'm like, how much does a fucking egg cost? 0.99
01:13:12.000 Like, an egg is free. 1.00
01:13:14.000 You get a chicken, the fucking eggs come out. 1.00
01:13:16.000 How much does it take to make a chemical egg? 1.00
01:13:19.000 It must cost a lot more than the actual egg itself.
01:13:22.000 It doesn't make any sense.
01:13:23.000 There's no eggs in China.
01:13:25.000 There's no milk in China, so they're just buying all of the dairies in France.
01:13:28.000 It was a big article today.
01:13:30.000 They need food, so they're making fake food.
01:13:32.000 Wow.
01:13:33.000 But you sit there and you say, okay, tuna.
01:13:35.000 It's on every single country in the world that has tuna.
01:13:38.000 Well, there's no more tuna.
01:13:40.000 We ate it all because everybody eats tuna.
01:13:42.000 When you start saying that everybody has to have that one thing, because you're like all these biggest corporations in the world, what do they sell? 0.99
01:13:51.000 Light bulbs, tampons, toothbrushes, shit that everybody needs. 0.99
01:13:58.000 Every single person in the world needs a fucking toothbrush or light bulb so they make billions of dollars. 1.00
01:14:02.000 Tuna, right? 0.99
01:14:03.000 There's no more tuna. 0.99
01:14:05.000 So what the fuck do they do? 0.99
01:14:06.000 They say, well, just take everything. 1.00
01:14:08.000 Take the kids, take the eggs, take the fucking, you know, the adults, take the breeding females, take everybody, chop it up, put it in a fucking tuna can. 1.00
01:14:16.000 Wow. 1.00
01:14:17.000 And that's the problem, is food, and by the way, this is happening now with beef.
01:14:22.000 I know you're into grass-fed beef.
01:14:24.000 Beef now is a huge problem.
01:14:27.000 Price is, you know, skyrocketing.
01:14:28.000 Why?
01:14:29.000 Because now everybody wants beef.
01:14:30.000 People have a bit more bucks or whatever.
01:14:32.000 And so now beef prices are going through the roof.
01:14:35.000 They're also getting sneaky with their grass-fed.
01:14:38.000 100%.
01:14:38.000 Like what they're calling grass-fed.
01:14:40.000 You could go to Whole Foods.
01:14:41.000 They have this new thing that they're doing.
01:14:43.000 They call it pasture-raised.
01:14:45.000 Have you seen that? 1.00
01:14:47.000 Look, beef is fucked. 1.00
01:14:49.000 Fish is fucked. 1.00
01:14:50.000 Protein in general is fucked because it's expensive. 1.00
01:14:53.000 It's expensive to fucking rear and make happen. 1.00
01:14:58.000 But fish, by the way, is the scariest because we've overfished to the point where unless it's farmed, we're fucked. 0.99
01:15:07.000 And it doesn't seem like there's any light at the end of the tunnel either. 0.77
01:15:09.000 Well, this is the thing, and I keep saying this when I come on the show, is where are all the adults?
01:15:14.000 Like, okay, if the option is we can stop eating so much fish for a little bit and then have fish forever... 0.95
01:15:23.000 Or we can just keep on eating all the fucking fish and then never have fish forever ever again. 0.98
01:15:29.000 Wouldn't it be the same... 1.00
01:15:32.000 Decision.
01:15:33.000 To say, let's eat a little bit less fish so we can all have fish forever.
01:15:36.000 No.
01:15:36.000 We're actually doing the opposite and saying, well, no one actually has the...
01:15:41.000 Because if we don't do it, then the Japanese will do it. 1.00
01:15:44.000 And if the Japanese are doing it, then we have to do it. 1.00
01:15:46.000 So we're all going to just eat all the fish.
01:15:47.000 Well, you don't hear about that story because it's important to talk about Miley Cyrus twerking.
01:15:52.000 It's very important.
01:15:53.000 We don't have time for your tuna nonsense when young Miley... 1.00
01:15:57.000 She was Hannah Montana and now she's twerking. 1.00
01:16:00.000 Yeah...
01:16:01.000 It's disturbing that you don't hear more of it, and I think that's an issue with most people that follow the mainstream media.
01:16:07.000 Most people that work a 9 to 5 plus commuting time, they simply do not have time.
01:16:13.000 And it's hard.
01:16:14.000 It's very hard.
01:16:15.000 Life is hard.
01:16:16.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:16:16.000 And you don't want to come home and have a couple of old motherfuckers like us going, guess what, all the fish is gone, you fucking dirty bastard. 1.00
01:16:24.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:16:24.000 Stop eating your fucking tuna fish sandwich. 1.00
01:16:26.000 You don't want to be on the fucking subway listening to this. 1.00
01:16:29.000 Look, it's hard. 0.99
01:16:30.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:16:30.000 It's difficult, but the problem is, is the bill is not only in the mail, it's been fucking delivered. 0.96
01:16:37.000 We did a lot of bad things for a long time, and now the bill has been delivered, and we're sitting here going, there's no more fish, boys. 0.90
01:16:45.000 Sorry.
01:16:47.000 Like, and by the way, guess what?
01:16:50.000 We're not going to wake up.
01:16:52.000 This is the sad thing about you. 0.99
01:16:54.000 We're not going to wake up until you walk into the Quickie Mart or the 7-Eleven or whatever the fuck it is, and there's no more tuna on the shelves. 1.00
01:17:00.000 You go, what happened to the fucking tuna? 0.99
01:17:03.000 Yeah, we ate it all. 0.99
01:17:04.000 Yeah, that's a weird thing about us, isn't it?
01:17:06.000 We have that issue.
01:17:08.000 We don't recognize things until it's like... 0.99
01:17:10.000 It's like they say about addicts, that addicts have to hit rock fucking bottom before they'll stop doing drugs. 0.96
01:17:16.000 Like, they have to have overdoses where they're almost dead... 0.99
01:17:19.000 Change addicts with humans.
01:17:21.000 Yeah.
01:17:21.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.
01:17:23.000 I think it's a similar thing that we do.
01:17:26.000 When we get into patterns, like guys who are gambling addicts.
01:17:29.000 You ever met a gambling addict?
01:17:30.000 Me.
01:17:31.000 Well, you know, you're fine.
01:17:32.000 Listen, you're fine.
01:17:33.000 David Chow.
01:17:34.000 No, he's fine, too.
01:17:35.000 But you're talking about two wealthy guys. 0.99
01:17:37.000 The scary gambling addicts are the guys who are broke who have to fucking bet. 0.99
01:17:41.000 I knew this guy. 0.99
01:17:42.000 His name was White Plains Charlie.
01:17:44.000 White Plains Charlie.
01:17:45.000 Good name.
01:17:45.000 White Plains Charlie might have weighed 50 pounds.
01:17:47.000 He used to hang out at the pool hall that I used to go to, and he was a real good pool player.
01:17:51.000 He was an old man who was a gambling junkie. 1.00
01:17:53.000 He used to steal candy bars from the pool hall. 1.00
01:17:55.000 You'd see him fucking sneaky. 0.99
01:17:56.000 I mean, he just needed some form of nutrition. 0.98
01:17:58.000 All White Plains Charlie would do all day was gamble in one way or another.
01:18:03.000 He lived in a boarding house.
01:18:05.000 He had a room somewhere or a bed or somewhere.
01:18:07.000 And he was probably, when I met him, probably deep in his 60s. 0.99
01:18:12.000 White Plains Charles used to go to the fucking horse races every day. 1.00
01:18:15.000 And he would come to the pool hall after he went to the horse races, and like, this motherfucker! 1.00
01:18:20.000 I bet this horse, this fucking, I'm like, come on, you cocksucker! 1.00
01:18:24.000 Always, same story. 1.00
01:18:25.000 Always losing.
01:18:26.000 And if he did have some money, you could tell.
01:18:28.000 Because he was all squirrely and...
01:18:30.000 He could see him, and everybody knew, and then he would wind up gambling and losing that money. 1.00
01:18:33.000 But these poor fucks, man, they could never just get a job, get their shit together. 0.99
01:18:40.000 They were addicted to these weird thrills, and they would hit rock bottom and just scrape together enough money. 1.00
01:18:47.000 And then they decided, somewhere along the line, Charlie decided to just live at rock bottom.
01:18:52.000 Like, rock bottom was where he was.
01:18:53.000 He always smelled...
01:18:55.000 He would take cigarettes out of ashtrays and light them up again.
01:18:59.000 And he was essentially not homeless, but might have well been homeless.
01:19:03.000 Was always broke, always bumming money, always asking someone to stake him. 1.00
01:19:07.000 This motherfucker can't beat me. 1.00
01:19:09.000 I'm going to play this motherfucker. 1.00
01:19:10.000 I'm going to rob him. 1.00
01:19:11.000 We're going to make a lot of money.
01:19:12.000 Come on, man.
01:19:13.000 Come on, man.
01:19:13.000 Back me up on this.
01:19:15.000 And he was just addicted to it.
01:19:17.000 He would crash and just keep going.
01:19:20.000 And there's a lot of people like that when it comes to anything.
01:19:23.000 And I think that's a human characteristic.
01:19:25.000 This denial and this ability to rationalize the position that you're in.
01:19:29.000 And I think as a species, we do that.
01:19:32.000 Well, I forget.
01:19:33.000 I'm going to misquote this.
01:19:34.000 I'm going to butcher it.
01:19:35.000 But there's a definition of insanity, which is we go to bed every night with the same thing facing us and the same conditions facing us the next day, and we wake up thinking it's going to be different.
01:19:50.000 Yeah, that's the simplified version.
01:19:52.000 The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing and expecting a different result.
01:19:57.000 Correct.
01:19:57.000 Which is basically the definition of humanity and the definition of history.
01:20:02.000 It's also one of the reasons why we're such bad motherfuckers. 0.98
01:20:04.000 That we're able to put things aside and trudge ahead. 0.99
01:20:07.000 It's also the definition of religion. 0.98
01:20:10.000 Because they're like, yeah, it's shitty again today. 0.97
01:20:14.000 But guess what? 0.99
01:20:15.000 When you're dead, it's going to be awesome.
01:20:17.000 Jesus will be there. 0.87
01:20:20.000 You had another bad day. 0.97
01:20:22.000 It sucked again and you worked real hard. 1.00
01:20:25.000 But when you're dead, it's going to be hard. 1.00
01:20:27.000 Can you imagine?
01:20:27.000 Fred Phelps is dead.
01:20:28.000 You know that?
01:20:29.000 The Westboro Baptist Church guy?
01:20:30.000 Oh yeah.
01:20:31.000 He died.
01:20:31.000 Imagine the day, if Jesus is real, the day that that guy meets Jesus.
01:20:37.000 And Jesus is like, that's not what I meant.
01:20:39.000 Right.
01:20:41.000 You know what I love about it? 0.99
01:20:43.000 I travel a lot to hardcore Islamic countries, and they're like, yeah, you're going to jihad and suicide bombers, and you're going to go to paradise, you're going to have virgins, and you're like, yeah, it's fucking crazy. 1.00
01:20:58.000 And you come back to America, and they're like, those motherfucking Taliban and Al-Qaeda, they're crazy motherfuckers. 1.00
01:21:04.000 They believe they're going to fucking die in jihad and go to heaven. 1.00
01:21:07.000 What do you guys believe? 1.00
01:21:09.000 We believe in Jewish zombies that walk on water. 1.00
01:21:13.000 I believe that I'm going to work every day and have a bad life every day of my life, and then I'm going to fucking die and go to heaven. 1.00
01:21:20.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:21:21.000 Well, we don't believe in virgins, so it's less ridiculous.
01:21:25.000 I don't get 70 virgins, but I live on a cloud and eat Velveeta cheese. 0.99
01:21:29.000 Our shit is more reasonable and updated. 1.00
01:21:31.000 Their shit is very ancient. 1.00
01:21:34.000 I believe that what's going on in the Middle East is that the Middle East, I've said this before, is the cradle of civilization. 1.00
01:21:41.000 That's where Mesopotamia was, Babylon, that's where Sumer was.
01:21:45.000 Everywhere.
01:21:45.000 I think Turkey, I mean, the oldest known civilization that's built complex structures is in Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, this new thing that they found over the last decade, incredible structures.
01:21:57.000 The people that are still there, I think, are the townies of the world.
01:22:01.000 That's what I think it's like. 0.99
01:22:03.000 It's like when you go back to where you grew up, and all those assholes that stay, they're just so backwards and outdated. 0.98
01:22:09.000 I go to where I grew up, and I see my friends that still live in the same town. 1.00
01:22:13.000 I'm like, fuck, man. 0.99
01:22:14.000 You guys gotta get out of here. 1.00
01:22:16.000 Yeah, these fucking fags wanna get fucking married and pay taxes. 1.00
01:22:21.000 You're a town. 1.00
01:22:22.000 Where did you grow up?
01:22:23.000 Newton, Massachusetts.
01:22:24.000 Newton, Upper Falls.
01:22:27.000 That's actually a great place to live. 1.00
01:22:28.000 I'm just talking shit. 0.99
01:22:30.000 But what I'm talking about is that there are certain people that live in an area and that area has an ideology that's very rigid and they never get out of it. 0.99
01:22:39.000 Yeah.
01:22:40.000 This is because their ideology was created 15,000 years ago.
01:22:45.000 They have the echoes of that retarded civilization that thought the world was flat and they worshipped goats. 1.00
01:22:50.000 The interesting thing about Islam, though, is it was created, much as you say, as a... 0.98
01:22:57.000 It was basically a...
01:22:59.000 By the way, watch a jihad be announced or a fatwa on me. 0.58
01:23:03.000 It was created because Muhammad went to Judea and said, oh, there's this new Christian thing going on. 0.97
01:23:09.000 So it was this monotheistic thing, saying, oh, there's this new one God religion, I'm going to take that on.
01:23:15.000 So Judaism, actually in the Koran it says the people of the book, there's the Jews and the Christians and the Muslims, and they're all the same because they're monotheistic.
01:23:23.000 And you say, oh, okay, well that's interesting, people of the book, you know, we're all in it together. 0.98
01:23:29.000 Why the fuck have you been, you know, fighting us, you know, the whole time? 0.98
01:23:34.000 Well, we have different versions of heaven. 0.99
01:23:37.000 Well, how about the Islamic people themselves have two different sects of Islam that battle each other to the death? 1.00
01:23:43.000 Well, there's a lot more than two, but yeah, two big ones.
01:23:46.000 The big one in Iraq. 0.96
01:23:47.000 The Sunni and Shia that we didn't know about in Iraq.
01:23:49.000 When people started blowing each other up in Iraq and we found out that it was Islamic people attacking rival Islamic sects, we were like, wait a minute! 1.00
01:23:59.000 How crazy are these fucking people? 1.00
01:24:01.000 This is a civil war amongst Christians. 1.00
01:24:03.000 Exactly what I was trying to get to is Judaism, Christianity, Islam are basically the same religion.
01:24:10.000 They started the same...
01:24:11.000 Yes.
01:24:11.000 Well, similarly rooted.
01:24:13.000 Exactly.
01:24:14.000 There you go.
01:24:14.000 Yeah.
01:24:15.000 And so the people of the book, etc., etc., and you sit there and saying, your definition of heaven is different than my definition, or your definition of this is different...
01:24:23.000 Or Jesus was a prophet, but Muhammad was a real prophet. 0.99
01:24:26.000 And you say, okay, because of all that, we're going to kill the fuck out of each other for a long fucking time. 1.00
01:24:32.000 And at that point, you're like, well, this is just fucking stupid. 1.00
01:24:35.000 Well, it's all fucking stupid. 1.00
01:24:36.000 Because we look at them and say, oh, you're going to get 70 virgins because you blew yourself up with the suicide. 1.00
01:24:42.000 72. 72. You're fucking ridiculous.
01:24:44.000 However, I'm going to go to heaven and live on a cloud with my fucking savior, Jesus. 1.00
01:24:48.000 How is that any fucking different? 1.00
01:24:50.000 It's just as ridiculous. 0.99
01:24:51.000 But you know the term 72 virgins, apparently what they mean when they say 72... 0.95
01:24:55.000 Raisins. 0.99
01:24:57.000 72 is like you would say a fucking kazillion. 0.99
01:25:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:25:01.000 You know? 0.99
01:25:02.000 Like you would get 72 virgins.
01:25:04.000 It's just the ideas of bounty.
01:25:06.000 There's one thing that actually meant 72 raisins.
01:25:10.000 Raisins? 0.99
01:25:11.000 The fact of the matter is that we...
01:25:13.000 Yeah, it was raisins.
01:25:14.000 That's not enough.
01:25:15.000 Look that up.
01:25:15.000 Google it.
01:25:16.000 72 raisins is a fucking skimpy little box. 0.99
01:25:18.000 I want you to fucking back me up on this. 0.99
01:25:20.000 If I bought a box of raisins that was only 72, I'd be pissed. 0.99
01:25:24.000 Five bars!
01:25:26.000 Yeah, that bit.
01:25:27.000 That old school bit.
01:25:28.000 Yeah, the idea that 72 raisins is a lot of raisins is just as insulting as 72 virgins in heaven.
01:25:35.000 But what's interesting is those religions were created.
01:25:39.000 Muslim martyrs get 72 raisins instead of virgins. 0.90
01:25:42.000 Oh, God.
01:25:43.000 Is that up there?
01:25:44.000 Yeah.
01:25:44.000 Hey!
01:25:46.000 Well, we believe you.
01:25:46.000 You're good.
01:25:47.000 You're very good, Redback.
01:25:48.000 Google's good.
01:25:49.000 It's not like you went out and read books.
01:25:52.000 The kid didn't go out and get an encyclopedia.
01:25:54.000 Ran outside with his library card.
01:25:56.000 I just typed.
01:25:59.000 In the future, you won't even have to type.
01:26:00.000 But there you go.
01:26:01.000 It's tying it back to information.
01:26:03.000 How about the fact that we have all information in the world, in the history of the world, at our fingertips at all times? 0.99
01:26:09.000 Scary as fuck. 0.99
01:26:10.000 It's crazy. 1.00
01:26:12.000 You're exactly right.
01:26:13.000 When you said the freedom of information...
01:26:17.000 It will save us, but it will change us.
01:26:21.000 It's going to change everything.
01:26:21.000 It will change us, but it will save us.
01:26:24.000 Look, it was just us.
01:26:25.000 This is something I like to do all the time.
01:26:27.000 I like to play this game.
01:26:28.000 But it was only us four.
01:26:30.000 It was Brian, Jamie, you and I. We were the only people on Earth.
01:26:33.000 We'll be in trouble.
01:26:34.000 You can read my email.
01:26:35.000 Who cares?
01:26:36.000 I'm emailing you guys.
01:26:38.000 You could borrow my food.
01:26:40.000 There's only four of us. 0.98
01:26:41.000 If there's only four of us, all the food we have, we better fucking share it. 0.98
01:26:44.000 All the vegetables we have, we better fucking share it. 0.98
01:26:46.000 Why wouldn't we? 0.99
01:26:47.000 If you build a dope house and you spend all your time building that dope house, that's your house.
01:26:53.000 I should probably build my own house, but we would help each other.
01:26:57.000 Correct.
01:26:57.000 You couldn't really build a house on your own.
01:26:59.000 We would need each other.
01:27:00.000 Why wouldn't we?
01:27:01.000 Right.
01:27:01.000 We don't necessarily need each other when there's 300 million of us.
01:27:04.000 And so we have a real issue.
01:27:06.000 Or 7 billion.
01:27:06.000 Or 7 billion.
01:27:07.000 And we have a real issue.
01:27:09.000 But we're going to be able to read each other's minds, man.
01:27:12.000 That is coming.
01:27:12.000 And we're going to need real...
01:27:15.000 Not purity of thought, because there's nothing wrong with being perverted.
01:27:19.000 We have to understand that...
01:27:20.000 We are perverted. 0.96
01:27:21.000 Humans are perverted. 0.92
01:27:23.000 Yeah, the things that people enjoy. 1.00
01:27:25.000 Sex and talking shit and jerking off and... 1.00
01:27:29.000 And all the nonsense that we enjoy is a part of us. 1.00
01:27:32.000 It's a part of our animal life.
01:27:34.000 And we hide a lot of these things because of our culture.
01:27:38.000 We hide a lot of these things because of, you know, we want to have jobs and we want to have, you know, there's another bottle of that Jack over there.
01:27:46.000 Oh, shh.
01:27:48.000 There's another bottle of Jack-O-Lantern Sody Pop with extra vitamin C. Of course. 0.98
01:27:55.000 It's a part of what we are, and we're shielding ourselves from our sexuality and our reality by hiding and bullshitting. 1.00
01:28:06.000 All that bullshit and hiding. 0.99
01:28:07.000 The things that I don't have to do because I'm a comedian, the things that Brian doesn't have to do, we can say crazy shit about what we've done and what we do and drugs and... 1.00
01:28:17.000 Sex and nonsense. 0.93
01:28:20.000 We can talk about all that because there's no expectations on us to be normal. 0.93
01:28:24.000 We're comedians.
01:28:26.000 We're entertainers. 0.96
01:28:28.000 We're crazy people. 0.99
01:28:29.000 But for the average person, the average person with a fucking corporate job can't make a YouTube video about doing DMT and getting blown by angels. 0.99
01:28:37.000 But did we talk about this before? 0.97
01:28:38.000 I don't know because my brain is softening.
01:28:42.000 It's hardening.
01:28:43.000 I don't know if we talked about this.
01:28:48.000 It's a good thing because I've just forgotten my question.
01:28:55.000 What I was saying was that the expectations on guys like me and Brian, they don't exist because we're already silly. 0.98
01:29:03.000 We're ridiculous people. 0.97
01:29:05.000 It's fine if we talk about drugs. 1.00
01:29:07.000 It's fine if we talk about sex.
01:29:08.000 Oh, yeah.
01:29:08.000 That was the thing.
01:29:09.000 You were saying that, yeah. 0.99
01:29:11.000 So I don't know if we talked about this before, but what I find disturbing about political representation is I've done a lot of crazy shit. 0.91
01:29:22.000 I left home when I was like 13 and a half. 0.98
01:29:24.000 I've been a bad boy.
01:29:26.000 I've been a robber. 0.99
01:29:27.000 You are a bad boy. 0.89
01:29:28.000 I did a lot of bad things. 0.99
01:29:30.000 I did a lot of drugs, did a lot of crazy things.
01:29:33.000 The fact that our politicians, and this is one thing that freaked me out a bit, Mitt Romney, is here's a guy who didn't ever do anything.
01:29:41.000 And by the way, I don't want someone who never did anything.
01:29:44.000 I want someone who's done everything.
01:29:46.000 I want someone who reflects me.
01:29:48.000 So when people say, you know what, Shane? 1.00
01:29:50.000 You fucking did drugs, and you fucking did this, and you fucking whacked off, and you fucking cums, sodden bastard. 1.00
01:29:59.000 I'm like, yes. 1.00
01:30:00.000 I'm fucking human. 0.99
01:30:02.000 Human. 1.00
01:30:03.000 And by the way, I would like a politician to say, yeah, I whacked off and came in my fucking bag. 1.00
01:30:07.000 Yeah, no way. 0.99
01:30:10.000 Because that's how we are as humans.
01:30:13.000 Normal.
01:30:14.000 The fact that we have people who have to be squeaky clean, which nobody is, by the way.
01:30:19.000 And the fact that you have to be... 1.00
01:30:21.000 To me, if you're squeaky clean, you've got 20 fucking dead bodies in your goddamn basement because I don't trust those motherfuckers who are squeaky clean. 1.00
01:30:27.000 Or you're crazy. 1.00
01:30:27.000 I've never met anyone who's squeaky clean and nor do I want to. 1.00
01:30:32.000 We're human.
01:30:33.000 And what you're saying is exactly right. 0.99
01:30:35.000 You're fucking freaky business. 0.99
01:30:37.000 I've got freaky business. 1.00
01:30:39.000 Everyone's got freaky business.
01:30:40.000 Now...
01:30:41.000 Do I want everyone in the world to know that I've had some freaky business?
01:30:44.000 Probably.
01:30:47.000 Probably not.
01:30:49.000 You say not, but that's because everybody else can hide their freaky business.
01:30:53.000 Look, there's some things I don't mind about.
01:30:54.000 There's some things I do.
01:30:56.000 What I'm trying to get at is what I would like from my representation is humanity.
01:31:02.000 Yeah.
01:31:03.000 Right? 1.00
01:31:04.000 Like, we all fuck up. 1.00
01:31:05.000 We all do crazy shit. 1.00
01:31:06.000 We all do some fucking thing. 1.00
01:31:08.000 If I look back, well, you fucking admit to everything. 1.00
01:31:12.000 You're like, I'll fuck everything. 1.00
01:31:13.000 Wouldn't it be nice if, like, that Wiener guy, if the guy who was running up against Andrew Wiener, if he went, hey, look. 1.00
01:31:19.000 Yes, I did.
01:31:20.000 Who cares?
01:31:20.000 Yes, I did.
01:31:21.000 I sent a picture of my dick. 1.00
01:31:23.000 But not even him. 1.00
01:31:24.000 The guy running against him.
01:31:26.000 What if he said, who cares? 1.00
01:31:28.000 The guy likes to email chicks pictures of his dick. 1.00
01:31:31.000 What do you give a fuck? 1.00
01:31:33.000 It's just sex. 1.00
01:31:34.000 What does that have anything to do with the economy?
01:31:37.000 Well, his character.
01:31:39.000 His character is suspect.
01:31:42.000 But that's what they do.
01:31:43.000 Yeah, that's what they do.
01:31:43.000 The thing is, they go after character.
01:31:47.000 And my thing is, when they go after my character, I go, yes sir.
01:31:51.000 I did that.
01:31:52.000 I put it in the bum bum and I don't feel bad about it. 0.87
01:31:55.000 I've never done that.
01:31:56.000 You don't have to be a squeaky clean guy because the expectations aren't on you in that job.
01:32:03.000 But we have this weird expectation that our politicians are saviors.
01:32:08.000 And why?
01:32:09.000 Politicians should represent us.
01:32:11.000 And if they never do anything bad, then they don't represent us. 1.00
01:32:16.000 Because we all do bad shit. 0.99
01:32:18.000 By the way, what's bad? 1.00
01:32:19.000 We all do human shit. 1.00
01:32:21.000 So why the fuck aren't our politicians representative of who we are, which is all doing human shit? 1.00
01:32:27.000 Well, let's put it into perspective. 0.99
01:32:28.000 This will probably help this discussion.
01:32:30.000 This whole idea of voting for someone is 200 years old.
01:32:35.000 Human culture has been around for 10,000, who knows how many thousands of years.
01:32:40.000 Voting for someone is really new.
01:32:44.000 It's a popularity contest instead of a monarchy, instead of a dictatorship.
01:32:50.000 I wish it was a popularity contest. 1.00
01:32:52.000 It's a name recognition contest because you don't know the other fucking names. 1.00
01:32:56.000 That's why it's all these commercials and all this bullshit. 1.00
01:32:58.000 It's a rigged popularity contest between two parties that are both represented by the same monopolies and giant corporations. 0.98
01:33:06.000 But it's still this new thing that they're trying to figure out.
01:33:09.000 To us, it'll go through our whole time, and I'm here quoting Smedley Butler, war is just a racket.
01:33:14.000 Well, that's just because the politicians have really only existed in this forum for a brief...
01:33:22.000 Sure.
01:33:22.000 Spasm of time.
01:33:23.000 A twitch.
01:33:24.000 A twitch.
01:33:25.000 The king was born into power.
01:33:26.000 Exactly. 1.00
01:33:27.000 Now we have to find these fucking guys. 1.00
01:33:29.000 And they always have. 1.00
01:33:30.000 Or they usurp the power.
01:33:31.000 Everyone's like, oh, Hillary Clinton's going to win. 0.93
01:33:33.000 You're like, why?
01:33:33.000 Because they know her name.
01:33:35.000 They know the fucking name. 1.00
01:33:36.000 Unless it comes out that Hillary Clinton is stuffing babies back up her pussy and smothering them. 1.00
01:33:42.000 Well, that'll come out. 1.00
01:33:44.000 Unless that comes out, yeah.
01:33:46.000 She's got a good shot. 0.98
01:33:47.000 I quite frankly don't think that she'll run. 1.00
01:33:50.000 I thought you were going to say, I was quite frankly, I don't think she stuffs babies up her pussy. 1.00
01:33:54.000 I'll go, listen, man, this is not, I'm not being literal. 1.00
01:33:57.000 I don't think she'll run because I think, I think, look, Name recognition is there.
01:34:03.000 Maybe she'll run. 1.00
01:34:04.000 I don't know.
01:34:04.000 But I don't think she'll run because she's old.
01:34:06.000 She's sick. 0.99
01:34:07.000 Things are coming out now that she's got health issues.
01:34:10.000 She is? 0.92
01:34:11.000 She has health issues? 1.00
01:34:11.000 What is it? 1.00
01:34:13.000 By the way, I don't even know if the health issues are true.
01:34:15.000 They're making a big deal about them.
01:34:18.000 Well, she's an older woman. 1.00
01:34:19.000 She's older.
01:34:20.000 Older men, older women, they have health issues. 0.99
01:34:22.000 She's in her 60s, right?
01:34:23.000 How old is she? 0.98
01:34:24.000 She's quite old.
01:34:25.000 Well, let's look it up.
01:34:26.000 I don't know.
01:34:26.000 I don't want to get caught out on that.
01:34:28.000 I'm going to guess.
01:34:29.000 I'd say she's 62. I'd say 68. 69. You got it?
01:34:33.000 You fucking asshole. 1.00
01:34:33.000 No, that's what I would say. 1.00
01:34:34.000 No, that's what he said.
01:34:36.000 She's quite old.
01:34:38.000 Bill Clinton's a very old guy.
01:34:41.000 She's 66 years old.
01:34:43.000 Yeah.
01:34:44.000 So, look.
01:34:45.000 She gets elected at 68. That's when people start dying.
01:34:48.000 Yeah, 68's old.
01:34:50.000 I mean, we used to make fun of Reagan.
01:34:51.000 Reagan was in his 70s.
01:34:52.000 How old was he?
01:34:53.000 He was in his 70s.
01:34:54.000 Look that up.
01:34:56.000 Was he in the 70s?
01:34:57.000 I believe so.
01:34:58.000 I believe he was in his 70s when he was president.
01:35:00.000 Because he was a bit of a...
01:35:01.000 Because it was that Dennis Miller joke.
01:35:02.000 He was a bit daughtery. 0.97
01:35:04.000 My grandfather was 72, and we don't let him use a remote control for the TV. He was a bit daughtery. 1.00
01:35:10.000 Now everybody's like, oh, fuck, Reagan, Reagan. 1.00
01:35:13.000 He was the best. 1.00
01:35:14.000 Oh, my God.
01:35:15.000 He was the best.
01:35:15.000 Can I ask you another question?
01:35:17.000 Please do.
01:35:18.000 The Republicans are all getting in line to say, I'm a Reagan Republican.
01:35:23.000 Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, Reagan, Reagan. 0.98
01:35:25.000 Why isn't the Democratic Party lining up saying, I'm a fucking Clinton centrist, fucking took the worst deficit in American history to the biggest surplus in American history, best president fucking serving in the 1900s? 0.99
01:35:45.000 Why is he so vilified? 0.99
01:35:47.000 The scandal.
01:35:48.000 Is it Monica Lewinsky?
01:35:49.000 100%.
01:35:49.000 That's it.
01:35:50.000 Character. 0.99
01:35:50.000 He got a blowjob, so the fact that he was probably the greatest president of the last century goes out the window. 0.99
01:35:55.000 He disparaged the great office of the presidency with his penis. 1.00
01:36:01.000 Do you know what he would do to women? 1.00
01:36:03.000 He would get them alone and pull his penis apart. 1.00
01:36:06.000 As opposed to every other president, except for Ronald Reagan, because his penis didn't work. 1.00
01:36:11.000 I wonder what the standard move was before Viagra. 0.99
01:36:15.000 I wonder if at a certain point in time you could trust the president because they didn't get hard-ons anymore. 0.99
01:36:20.000 There's a book by Plato called The Gorgias where the mean guy in it says, I only became a good politician when I put all the passions behind me because he's like 70 and he couldn't get his dick hard anymore. 0.99
01:36:36.000 And he can just be reasonable. 0.98
01:36:37.000 And that was the foundation of democracy was, my dick doesn't work anymore, so I'll just start democracy. 0.99
01:36:45.000 So ruin everyone else's lives. 0.99
01:36:47.000 That was the founder.
01:36:49.000 Maybe that was Gorgias.
01:36:51.000 That was the first book of Plato who, Socrates never wrote anything.
01:36:57.000 Plato wrote it all.
01:36:58.000 He said, Socrates said this.
01:37:00.000 And then that was the foundation of democracy. 0.65
01:37:03.000 It didn't really ruin it for anybody because back then their ideas of civilization were pretty fucking loose compared to what...
01:37:08.000 Correct. 0.97
01:37:09.000 I mean, Socrates and Plato were both fucking little boys left and right. 0.99
01:37:13.000 Yes. 0.98
01:37:13.000 And it was only the dudes, you know, there was like 100 people, slave owners, and you could vote. 0.98
01:37:22.000 So it was like, we're going to base it on their democracy where...
01:37:25.000 They went to the AGRA and said, yay or nay.
01:37:28.000 Do you think the future presidents would definitely embrace the whole Clinton thing?
01:37:32.000 Because look at Obama with doing that video with Zach Galifianakis.
01:37:35.000 I don't think so.
01:37:36.000 What do you mean like the whole Clinton thing?
01:37:38.000 Well, Obama just did a video with Zach Galifianakis that he's getting a lot of heat from, and that's kind of showing a really cool president, in my opinion.
01:37:47.000 What do you mean by getting heat?
01:37:48.000 You mean in a good way or in a bad way?
01:37:50.000 He's been getting heat.
01:37:51.000 He's been getting heat for doing that video.
01:37:53.000 But what do you mean by heat?
01:37:54.000 Bad way, bad way, bad way.
01:37:55.000 Saying that there's a lot of people that think, like Fox News especially, think that the president shouldn't be put in that kind of situation. 0.88
01:38:01.000 Even though that he was like on, you know, presidents in the past have done Jay Leno and shit like that. 0.94
01:38:05.000 They just don't understand. 0.81
01:38:07.000 Remember Clinton? 0.99
01:38:07.000 He got on Arsenio and played fucking sax? 0.99
01:38:09.000 Yeah, played sax. 1.00
01:38:09.000 Right, exactly. 1.00
01:38:10.000 I wish that Democrats would embrace Clinton as Republicans have embraced Reagan.
01:38:18.000 Reagan, when I grew up, was a joke. 1.00
01:38:20.000 He was a doddering old guy who didn't know shit. 0.99
01:38:22.000 Yeah, me too. 1.00
01:38:23.000 And now they're like, oh, fucking, I'm better. 1.00
01:38:25.000 I'm more Reagan than you're Reagan. 1.00
01:38:26.000 Well, I grew up... 0.99
01:38:27.000 Whereas Clinton, everyone's like, get the fuck away from him. 0.99
01:38:31.000 And you're like, hold on a second. 0.99
01:38:33.000 This guy took the largest deficit in the history of fucking America and turned it into the largest surplus. 0.96
01:38:40.000 Now, they credit Reagan for that, but it was under Clinton. 0.99
01:38:45.000 Mm-hmm.
01:38:45.000 And this guy was like a consensus politician.
01:38:50.000 He worked with the Republicans.
01:38:52.000 The government actually worked, which it doesn't do now.
01:38:56.000 Why wouldn't Obama? 0.99
01:38:58.000 Why wouldn't the Democrats say, I'm a fucking Clintonist? 1.00
01:39:02.000 They don't. 1.00
01:39:03.000 Because... 1.00
01:39:04.000 The Republicans did such a fucking great job at, by the way, an amazing politician and a consensus politician being destroyed because he liked to fuck. 1.00
01:39:14.000 Well, people helped him other than the Republicans. 1.00
01:39:17.000 The goddamn Democrats helped him. 1.00
01:39:18.000 Women helped him. 1.00
01:39:19.000 Democrat men who are pussies and white knights, they helped him. 0.99
01:39:23.000 Everybody helped. 1.00
01:39:24.000 They all pointed at him.
01:39:26.000 I wouldn't do that. 1.00
01:39:27.000 He fucked up. 1.00
01:39:28.000 Maybe you would. 1.00
01:39:29.000 Maybe you would if you're a fat guy with a giant penis nose who was all of a sudden president and everybody wants to touch you. 1.00
01:39:35.000 Yeah, you'd probably do some crazy shit. 1.00
01:39:37.000 You probably can't even believe you're doing it. 1.00
01:39:39.000 While you're doing it, you probably can't believe when you're alone and they shut that door.
01:39:42.000 Good evening, Mr. President.
01:39:43.000 Have a good night.
01:39:44.000 They shut that door and you're alone in the Oval Office. 1.00
01:39:46.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.98
01:39:48.000 But it started before that. 0.99
01:39:49.000 I'm sure it did.
01:39:50.000 I was reading this amazing article recently about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton presidency and the lead up to the Clinton presidency.
01:39:57.000 It was like they have been implicated in murders.
01:40:02.000 Mm-hmm.
01:40:02.000 They've been implicated in...
01:40:04.000 There was a push for impeachment, sex with men, sex with women, scandals over millions of dollars. 1.00
01:40:13.000 And you're like, that's House of Cards shit. 1.00
01:40:16.000 Well, who knows how much of it is true. 0.99
01:40:18.000 But you know what it is?
01:40:19.000 It doesn't matter if it's true.
01:40:20.000 Because perception is reality. 0.99
01:40:22.000 But what is true is there's a fucking PR war. 0.99
01:40:27.000 With all those... 0.98
01:40:28.000 What's the thing on House of Cards?
01:40:31.000 I haven't watched that show.
01:40:33.000 I just watched the first episode. 0.98
01:40:34.000 It's so fucking good. 0.98
01:40:35.000 Don't be a spoiler person. 0.98
01:40:37.000 But anyway, all this sort of PR shit that goes on. 1.00
01:40:40.000 If you fuck with me and don't vote for this, I'm going to PR attack you and I'm going to get my super pack to attack you on this shit and I'm going to do this, whatever. 0.99
01:40:48.000 And the thing is, what's interesting is they're taking real life shit that's happening in American politics and they put it into a thing that we can understand. 1.00
01:40:58.000 I love it.
01:40:58.000 I don't like a lot of the...
01:41:01.000 Gay sex? 1.00
01:41:02.000 No. 1.00
01:41:04.000 That I love.
01:41:05.000 No, the tricky sort of directorial tricks. 0.98
01:41:07.000 But what I do love is taking real life shit and saying, here's what's actually happening and we're going to put it into a drama. 0.98
01:41:15.000 And it's actually like Shakespeare. 0.99
01:41:16.000 It's like Macbeth or something.
01:41:18.000 And we're watching our own politics as a play.
01:41:22.000 And it's insane.
01:41:23.000 And when you read, actually, what they've been through, what they've done...
01:41:26.000 And by the way, what's good for the goose is good for the... 0.96
01:41:29.000 They're not fucking... 0.98
01:41:31.000 They're not blameless. 0.99
01:41:34.000 Of course they're...
01:41:34.000 No one's blameless.
01:41:35.000 No one's blameless.
01:41:36.000 Not the left, not the right, not the center.
01:41:38.000 No libertarians, Green Party. 0.93
01:41:41.000 They're all freaks. 0.88
01:41:42.000 100%. 0.92
01:41:42.000 They're all freaks. 0.92
01:41:43.000 And by the way, if you're running for politics, you're a freak... 1.00
01:41:46.000 Full stop. 0.58
01:41:47.000 Well, that's, I think, also one of the reasons why nobody wants to get behind the Clintons, is you start looking into their past, the Whitewater stuff.
01:41:53.000 Sure.
01:41:54.000 Whitewater, is that the right name?
01:41:56.000 Yeah.
01:41:56.000 Is that the right term?
01:41:57.000 I don't know, but I know what you mean when you say it.
01:41:59.000 What was Watergate?
01:42:00.000 Yeah, Whitewater.
01:42:01.000 Watergate was Nixon.
01:42:02.000 Whitewater.
01:42:02.000 I get the two of them confused sometimes.
01:42:04.000 But did you ever read The Strange Death of Vince Foster?
01:42:07.000 No, but I read about the fact that they were implicated in a death.
01:42:11.000 Yeah, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.
01:42:14.000 What are you doing over there?
01:42:15.000 Death of Vince Foster is a very interesting book that I read.
01:42:22.000 I really have to go back and re-read it because I haven't read it in a long time.
01:42:26.000 But it's an investigation of this guy, Vince Foster.
01:42:30.000 And Vince Foster worked with the Clintons and it tied...
01:42:34.000 Bill and Hillary Clinton to the alleged murder of Vincent Foster. 0.99
01:42:39.000 And what's really interesting about this, for sure, this fucking guy, for sure, was moved. 0.98
01:42:45.000 They found his body, gun in the hand, which you never find in suicide. 0.99
01:42:49.000 The gun is never in your hand when you commit suicide.
01:42:52.000 When you commit suicide, boom! 1.00
01:42:53.000 The gun goes flying, your fucking body spasms. 1.00
01:42:56.000 This gun was like stuck to his thumb, like... 1.00
01:42:59.000 There.
01:43:00.000 This was in the thing. 0.87
01:43:02.000 Suicide, murders.
01:43:04.000 This is House of Cards. 1.00
01:43:06.000 I'm not going to fuck with you on it, but we've got to stop talking about it because it's House of Cards shit. 1.00
01:43:13.000 Well... 1.00
01:43:13.000 I want to watch that show. 1.00
01:43:15.000 But, you know, it's about that shit. 1.00
01:43:16.000 It's about, like, they're involved in some seriously... 1.00
01:43:19.000 And you're, like, watching this thing saying, it's like Shakespeare, it's like whatever, like, it's Hollywood. 0.99
01:43:25.000 And then you read, actually, what happened and you go, oh, fuck. 1.00
01:43:29.000 Like, there's some truth to that shit. 1.00
01:43:32.000 The only problem with this, I think a lot of it was compiled. 1.00
01:43:36.000 Kenneth Starr's investigation was part of the conspiracy.
01:43:41.000 Mm-hmm.
01:43:41.000 Starr was a patsy for the Clintonites.
01:43:43.000 And when people think about Kenneth Starr, they think about a guy who goes after Clinton, right?
01:43:49.000 I mean, he was part of what was, wasn't he the guy that was investigating Clinton and chasing after him with Monica Lewinsky?
01:43:56.000 But they're calling him a patsy for the Clintons.
01:43:58.000 I don't know, man. 1.00
01:44:00.000 The whole fucking thing is when you start realizing like, oh, they might all be murderers. 0.99
01:44:06.000 They might be just par for the course. 1.00
01:44:08.000 Just like these people, anyone, just think of this, anyone who's willing to say, yes, we should go to war on some shaky grounds, you're a murderer. 0.98
01:44:17.000 But also, anyone who's saying, I'm going to go and try to get elected and not have any bad shit from my life ever come out. 0.99
01:44:28.000 I don't know anyone in my life that I've ever met that hasn't had some bad shit. 1.00
01:44:33.000 Well, the only way you can do that is to kill people that know bad shit about you or scare the fuck out of them so they can't come up with all that bad shit. 1.00
01:44:39.000 Exactly. 1.00
01:44:40.000 They were involved in some shady real estate deals.
01:44:44.000 First of all, the big one is Mena, Arkansas.
01:44:47.000 Do you know about all that?
01:44:49.000 Do you know about... 1.00
01:44:49.000 Mena, Arkansas is a fucking trip, man. 1.00
01:44:52.000 Mena, Arkansas was where Barry Seal, who worked for the CIA, was dropping all the cocaine that he got from South America. 1.00
01:45:00.000 They would fly in on these fucking planes and drop packages off in Mena, Arkansas, and then land. 0.98
01:45:07.000 Then they'd go pick up the packages. 1.00
01:45:08.000 Well, they dropped these packages. 0.99
01:45:10.000 You know, they're dropping fucking millions of dollars worth of cocaine. 0.99
01:45:13.000 And these kids... 0.99
01:45:15.000 Who lived in Mena, Arkansas, were hanging out on these train tracks.
01:45:18.000 They found these packages. 0.98
01:45:20.000 The people, whoever the fuck worked for the CIA, found these kids, murdered them, and then laid their body on the train tracks. 0.99
01:45:27.000 The autopsies were done. 0.99
01:45:28.000 The kids were high.
01:45:29.000 They fell asleep on the train tracks.
01:45:31.000 The parents didn't believe it.
01:45:32.000 They said, look, these kids didn't get high. 1.00
01:45:33.000 This is bullshit. 1.00
01:45:34.000 So they hired an independent investigation. 1.00
01:45:36.000 The independent investigation finds that the kids had been murdered.
01:45:39.000 The kids had been stabbed.
01:45:41.000 Okay?
01:45:41.000 So it wasn't a matter of them dying from train tracks.
01:45:44.000 Their bodies were laid on the trains post-mortem. 0.98
01:45:47.000 So then they start digging deeper, and they find out more and more shit, and then this guy Barry Seal gets popped. 0.99
01:45:54.000 And it turns out that Barry Seal had been flying back and forth from the fucking South American Coke dealers. 0.99
01:45:59.000 Forever. 0.99
01:46:00.000 Hold on a second.
01:46:01.000 He died. 1.00
01:46:03.000 See, they murdered him in his car when he was on his way to testify with George Bush's phone number in his fucking pocket. 1.00
01:46:09.000 Okay? 0.99
01:46:10.000 That guy literally sold drugs for the CIA. Okay.
01:46:15.000 Like, literally.
01:46:16.000 Like, testified, gave all these accounts of it.
01:46:18.000 I want the movie rights to this story.
01:46:20.000 That's crazy.
01:46:20.000 Oh, you'll never hear it.
01:46:21.000 There's all these pictures of him with all these South American guys, like fucking, what's his name, Manuel Noriega and Pablo Escobar. 0.99
01:46:29.000 There's photos of this fucking guy with everybody. 1.00
01:46:31.000 Holy shit, dude. 1.00
01:46:31.000 They were bringing in coke money. 1.00
01:46:33.000 And this was all happening in...
01:46:39.000 Arkansas! 0.99
01:46:39.000 The guy whose state is bringing in fucking kazillion dollars in coke money every year winds up... 0.99
01:46:50.000 First of all, how the fuck do you run a shitbag state like Arkansas? 1.00
01:46:56.000 Sorry, no offense, Arkansas folks. 0.99
01:46:58.000 I'm sure there's some good spots and I'm sure you've got great barbecue.
01:47:00.000 But let's be realistic. 0.98
01:47:02.000 How the fuck does the governor of Arkansas wind up to be the king of the entire country? 0.99
01:47:07.000 You need a lot of money. 0.99
01:47:08.000 How? 1.00
01:47:08.000 You gotta get a lot of fucking money! 1.00
01:47:10.000 And if you had a lot of money, why would you be running for office in Arkansas? 1.00
01:47:13.000 Like, what's Arkansas, man?
01:47:15.000 Why are you in Arkansas?
01:47:15.000 I've got a question.
01:47:16.000 What's going on?
01:47:18.000 If you had that much money, it takes billions of dollars to run for president of the United States.
01:47:25.000 Billions?
01:47:26.000 Billions. 0.99
01:47:27.000 If you have that much money or that much support, why the fuck would you want that gig? 1.00
01:47:35.000 Because I don't know any president besides Reagan, which, by the way, is a construct, because when he was in power, it was a fucking disaster. 0.99
01:47:44.000 But you go, okay... 0.97
01:47:47.000 Like, why would you want that job?
01:47:49.000 No one comes out unscathed. 0.99
01:47:50.000 No one comes out like, you know what, that fucking president was awesome. 0.99
01:47:53.000 Well, Reagan didn't even come out unscathed. 0.99
01:47:55.000 No, no, no, he came out fucking, he was a dog until we said, you know what, he was the best one ever. 0.99
01:48:00.000 But the thing is, is you sit there and go, why, they're going to put everything you've ever done under a microscope. 1.00
01:48:06.000 Well, not only that.
01:48:07.000 Everything you've ever met is under a microscope.
01:48:09.000 Everything you've ever said is under a microscope. 1.00
01:48:10.000 Why the fuck would you want that fucking job? 1.00
01:48:13.000 Well, not only that. 1.00
01:48:14.000 I mean, that's certainly got to be impossible.
01:48:17.000 An impossible task for any normal human being, especially a man. 1.00
01:48:21.000 Any man with a functional penis is going to have some fucking terrible stories in his past. 1.00
01:48:25.000 But that said, forget about all that. 1.00
01:48:29.000 The idea that any one person should be like that is what's most ridiculous. 0.97
01:48:35.000 Exactly. 0.73
01:48:35.000 Not even the idea that they're going to look all this stuff up and find all this. 0.73
01:48:38.000 And then there's the idea that any one person- Clinton should have killed somebody.
01:48:41.000 Just JK. Just JK. Just the idea that one person really can run the whole country. 0.95
01:48:47.000 Like, we need a head guy?
01:48:49.000 Like, why do we need a head guy?
01:48:50.000 Do we really still need that?
01:48:52.000 I don't know. 1.00
01:48:52.000 But what I'm saying is, to get there, those motherfuckers have to be shady. 1.00
01:48:57.000 Because if you look at, like, George Bush Sr. He was like a backroom bureaucrat, but he was head of the CIA. He's like our fucking Putin. 0.99
01:49:07.000 And then he gets in, and he's just like this sort of non-effectual, sort of like nothing fucking dude. 1.00
01:49:14.000 But he's like the head of the fucking CIA. And you sit there and you just go, I don't even know what the fuck's happening here anymore. 0.99
01:49:23.000 I don't know what you're writing over there. 0.99
01:49:25.000 What happens if presidents become like tuna?
01:49:27.000 Ha! 0.89
01:49:28.000 We get to a point where nobody wants to be president.
01:49:31.000 I don't want to be president. 1.00
01:49:32.000 Everybody's like, fuck this. 1.00
01:49:34.000 You know what's funny? 0.99
01:49:34.000 We get to a point where there's literally no one running for president. 0.99
01:49:37.000 We have the presidential elections today.
01:49:39.000 That's good. 1.00
01:49:39.000 And everybody's like, fuck it. 1.00
01:49:42.000 Whenever I do political pieces and shit, they're like, you should... 1.00
01:49:45.000 By the way, I've seen it with you too. 0.99
01:49:47.000 On Twitter and shit, they're like, you should run for office. 0.97
01:49:49.000 You guys should run for office. 0.99
01:49:50.000 Joe Rogan for president, et cetera, et cetera.
01:49:52.000 And you're like... 1.00
01:49:53.000 Are you fucking crazy? 1.00
01:49:54.000 Well, not only that, forget about... 1.00
01:49:56.000 Are you fucking crazy? 1.00
01:49:57.000 What kind of a fucking stressful job, even if you were the most perfect Yoda, Buddha, angel that made it to age 45 and never did a crime and never smoked a joint and never did a bump, whatever, you know, 1.00
01:50:12.000 even if you were, what kind of crazy pressure would that be to all of a sudden, you're the guy who's deciding whether or not military action takes place. 0.98
01:50:21.000 Right. 0.97
01:50:22.000 You're the guy who's deciding whether or not a policy is going to be instituted like Obamacare that people are going to fucking freak out. 0.91
01:50:28.000 Do you even want that responsibility? 0.94
01:50:29.000 I don't.
01:50:30.000 Dude, if you make a YouTube video that people don't like, they want you to die.
01:50:34.000 Could you imagine what it must feel like to be the guy who invented Obamacare? 0.86
01:50:39.000 I have personally seen people freak the fuck out.
01:50:43.000 Get purple-faced, sweat-faced.
01:50:52.000 I'd love to talk.
01:51:06.000 Are we supposed to do something, by the way?
01:51:08.000 This is like the last week.
01:51:09.000 You have one week left.
01:51:11.000 Well, you guys are taken care of.
01:51:11.000 You don't have to worry about anything.
01:51:12.000 Do we have to say yes or no?
01:51:15.000 Because they make it seem like you're going to get fined if you don't do the right thing.
01:51:18.000 I think for individuals, I'm not sure how it works.
01:51:20.000 But I know that you guys always had insurance.
01:51:23.000 So I think it's essentially the same insurance.
01:51:25.000 Is it essentially the same?
01:51:26.000 I don't know. 0.96
01:51:27.000 You're all going to die.
01:51:28.000 I don't think it's any different. 0.62
01:51:29.000 No one knows, though.
01:51:30.000 I bet so many people are going to get fined.
01:51:32.000 This is going to be the most money that the government's ever made by not telling us about this.
01:51:36.000 I don't understand it.
01:51:38.000 Well, we don't have to get bogged down because I'll just go off for hours about this.
01:51:42.000 But what I was just saying is that I don't think anybody should have that kind of responsibility.
01:51:45.000 I don't think any person should have the weight of the world like that on their back.
01:51:49.000 I think there has to be a better way to collectively decide what's going on than to give one guy white hair.
01:51:55.000 It's crazy. 1.00
01:51:56.000 Poor motherfuckers, man. 1.00
01:51:57.000 Nobody can do that gig. 1.00
01:51:58.000 Here's a guy.
01:52:00.000 He's you, man.
01:52:01.000 How old are you?
01:52:01.000 How old are you?
01:52:02.000 44. He's just a little older than you.
01:52:04.000 Yeah.
01:52:04.000 That's nonsense.
01:52:06.000 I don't know about that, because older people are even more crazy than me. 1.00
01:52:09.000 But that's absolute craziness.
01:52:10.000 What I'd like to say is, I agree with you, that we're going to vote a collective me to try to make those decisions, because there is no collective me.
01:52:18.000 What I mean by he's you, and I mean by he's the same age, what I mean is, I'm just putting it into perspective, that I don't feel anyone ever...
01:52:28.000 Is the guy.
01:52:30.000 100%.
01:52:30.000 It can't be done.
01:52:31.000 It's a ridiculous proposition. 0.95
01:52:34.000 He's gonna go toe-to-toe with Putin over Crimea? 0.98
01:52:39.000 If I'm going to go toe-to-toe with Putin over Crimea, I'm going to say, you know what, I lost.
01:52:43.000 Because that guy used to run the KGB, he's got all the guys on the ground with all their weapons, he's already won, he's got a... 0.97
01:52:50.000 What the fuck am I going to do going to stop it? 0.89
01:52:53.000 Could you imagine if they had Obama, if they did something to Obama? 0.98
01:52:57.000 Could you imagine if something happened where, like...
01:53:00.000 Well, you know that guy that got poisoned in Russia?
01:53:04.000 No, in Ukraine.
01:53:05.000 In the Ukraine, yeah.
01:53:06.000 His face was...
01:53:06.000 Yeah, his face turned into this horrible...
01:53:09.000 Steel, scaly.
01:53:10.000 Horrible, horrible, poisoning.
01:53:11.000 Like, the guy came very close to die.
01:53:14.000 Well, I don't know about all that.
01:53:15.000 I wasn't there.
01:53:16.000 But what I'm saying is...
01:53:17.000 It allegedly was Putin.
01:53:18.000 Could you imagine if we found out that some...
01:53:21.000 You know, not even Putin.
01:53:23.000 Some crazy person out there had it in for Obama and was actually going after him.
01:53:28.000 Well, I'm sure there's...
01:53:30.000 A thousand.
01:53:30.000 I mean, we've never had an American president assassinated by anyone in a foreign country, and the closest to it was from a foreign country, blaming Lee Harvey Oswald, who had gone to the Soviet Union, for killing Kennedy.
01:53:43.000 But other guys who've killed presidents before, whether it is Abraham Lincoln, or how many presidents have been assassinated?
01:53:51.000 Was it three?
01:53:52.000 Why are you asking me?
01:53:53.000 I don't know.
01:53:53.000 You don't know?
01:53:53.000 You're not even from my country.
01:53:54.000 I figure you have to learn those things.
01:53:56.000 The Queen of England once wore a dress that was... 0.93
01:54:00.000 Either way, I don't think anyone has ever been...
01:54:03.000 Any of the murders, this is relatively small, were blamed on a foreign enemy.
01:54:07.000 Right.
01:54:09.000 It's so fascinating, man.
01:54:10.000 The idea that there might be a new war cooking and it might be with Russia.
01:54:15.000 Well, I've been saying this for a number of years, thank you very much. 0.99
01:54:20.000 I go to Russia and I'm like, what the fuck's going on? 0.98
01:54:25.000 Because I went there and I said, I don't understand. 0.99
01:54:27.000 I don't get the politics.
01:54:29.000 What is Putin?
01:54:31.000 Like, is he communist?
01:54:32.000 Because the communists like him.
01:54:34.000 Is he sort of right-wing?
01:54:35.000 Is he left-wing?
01:54:36.000 No, no, no, no.
01:54:39.000 He's pro-Russia.
01:54:40.000 And you're like, okay, I get he's pro-Russia. 1.00
01:54:42.000 Everyone's pro-fucking whatever the country they're from. 1.00
01:54:44.000 What the fuck is his politics? 1.00
01:54:45.000 Because the communists support him, the fucking fascists support him, everyone supports him. 1.00
01:54:50.000 And he's like, no, he's pro-Russia. 1.00
01:54:53.000 He's anti-West.
01:54:55.000 So pro-Russia equals anti-West.
01:54:57.000 And when you go there, you realize these people, a whole generation or more now, because it's the new generation, were, it was the Cold War. 0.99
01:55:06.000 It was like, we, on our side, were like, oh, commies eat babies, and you can buy a house for a pair of blue jeans, all that horse shit. 0.99
01:55:13.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:55:13.000 Right. 1.00
01:55:27.000 They fucked us up. 1.00
01:55:28.000 It's not us being fucking the oil bitches. 1.00
01:55:30.000 It's Saudi Arabia who is run by America. 1.00
01:55:33.000 The Cold War rhetoric in Russia never stopped.
01:55:37.000 That's one thing that we don't realize here. 1.00
01:55:39.000 They are saying America is to blame for all of our shit. 0.99
01:55:42.000 Did it never stop or did it take a break and then rekindle with Putin? 1.00
01:55:46.000 It took a small break.
01:55:48.000 With Yeltsin.
01:55:50.000 Because that guy was hanging out?
01:55:51.000 Well, Putin's been in like 16 years now.
01:55:53.000 But do you remember when Yeltsin would come over and he would hang out?
01:55:56.000 He was drunk.
01:55:57.000 Was he?
01:55:58.000 Was he the guy that had the thing on his head?
01:56:00.000 No, that was Gorbachev.
01:56:02.000 Gorbachev started it.
01:56:03.000 Yeltsin took over, pushed it real fast.
01:56:06.000 Everyone loved him because he was a democracy dude.
01:56:09.000 But he started all the oligarchs.
01:56:11.000 Putin was head of KGB. He came in and now has been basically running shit for a long time. 0.99
01:56:17.000 But the interesting thing about Putin is now he's just like, fuck you. 1.00
01:56:21.000 I don't know if you saw the Crimean address, but he's like, you guys put it up on us. 1.00
01:56:26.000 NATO put it up on us.
01:56:28.000 You guys put your missile defense systems along our borders. 1.00
01:56:31.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:56:31.000 Crimea is ours. 1.00
01:56:32.000 You want to go to war?
01:56:33.000 Let's go. 1.00
01:56:34.000 It's like he's been sort of training in silent, like I'm going to fucking punch the punching bag and get ready. 0.99
01:56:40.000 And now he's ready to go. 0.99
01:56:42.000 And this is this whole thing in the North.
01:56:44.000 It's here.
01:56:44.000 It's Crimea.
01:56:45.000 He's like, I don't give a fuck what you say. 1.00
01:56:47.000 I don't give a fuck about the West. 1.00
01:56:48.000 I don't give a fuck about America. 1.00
01:56:50.000 I don't give a fuck about your sanctions. 0.99
01:56:52.000 And this is why we're going back to this Cold War rhetoric that's not even Cold War rhetoric. 1.00
01:56:56.000 It's beyond Cold War, rather, because he's like, fuck you. 1.00
01:56:59.000 I don't give a shit what you say. 1.00
01:57:00.000 Now, is this because he's looking out for Russia and Russia's in a bad economic situation and Russia needs all that oil? 0.99
01:57:08.000 No.
01:57:08.000 They have oil.
01:57:10.000 They have oil.
01:57:10.000 They have tons of oil.
01:57:12.000 They have tons of oil.
01:57:12.000 That's their whole thing.
01:57:13.000 In fact, all of the energy in the Ukraine is supplied by Russia.
01:57:18.000 The majority of natural gas going into Western Europe is from Russia.
01:57:23.000 So what's going on here?
01:57:24.000 What is the underlying motive for why this is escalating?
01:57:28.000 Well, Crimea has been their only freshwater port since Peter the Great.
01:57:34.000 So it's their only place they can get to the rest of the world, and someone else ran it, and they didn't like that, the Ukraine.
01:57:42.000 Ukraine...
01:57:44.000 If you draw a line, the western part is pro-Europe.
01:57:47.000 The eastern part is pro-Russia. 1.00
01:57:49.000 So they said, well, fuck you. 1.00
01:57:51.000 We're just going to take it back. 1.00
01:57:52.000 And what happened is they did the same thing in Georgia.
01:57:55.000 All of the old Soviet republics, they're now taking back. 0.76
01:58:02.000 And Crimea has been...
01:58:05.000 They wanted it because it's strategically important to them for their naval base.
01:58:10.000 But basically they just cut...
01:58:12.000 A big chunk of Europe, quote-unquote Europe, out and said, it's ours now. 0.99
01:58:18.000 And we went, yeah, okay. 0.98
01:58:21.000 So we just don't want to start any bullshit. 0.99
01:58:23.000 We can't. 0.98
01:58:23.000 We can't. 0.98
01:58:24.000 Nothing we can do.
01:58:24.000 What are you going to do?
01:58:26.000 It's like saying, New Jersey said they don't want to be part of fucking America, so Russia moved in and we're going to fucking... 0.99
01:58:32.000 Right, right, right. 0.99
01:58:34.000 Can't happen.
01:58:35.000 Yeah, that would be interesting.
01:58:37.000 Yeah, if Russia said we can't take New Jersey...
01:58:40.000 Exactly.
01:58:40.000 And then, by the way, what are you going to do?
01:58:42.000 Send in troops?
01:58:43.000 It's not going to happen.
01:58:44.000 What is it going to take for our culture to move past all these things that are holding us back?
01:58:50.000 Like this kind of gangster behavior that all countries do.
01:58:53.000 Not just the United States.
01:58:54.000 Not just Russia.
01:58:55.000 Pretty much any country that has a lot of power.
01:58:58.000 They just decide they need some resources.
01:59:00.000 They decide they need this, they need that.
01:59:02.000 I mean, it's always been what we're seeing is just a really complicated sort of propaganda skewed form of it.
01:59:08.000 I agree with you, and I say that the only way we have any real power is consumer advocacy.
01:59:16.000 What does that mean?
01:59:18.000 Whatever we buy, that's the power because that's economics.
01:59:23.000 Economics runs everything. 0.97
01:59:24.000 And as long as Europe is buying Russian energy, then Russia is going to say, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. 0.74
01:59:33.000 Russia is redrawing the borders of Europe with Europe's money. 0.89
01:59:38.000 Right.
01:59:39.000 Because they sell the gas to Europe.
01:59:42.000 We're in the exact same position, right?
01:59:45.000 We're sitting there saying, okay, well, we're going to do this, we're going to do that.
01:59:50.000 Why? 0.98
01:59:50.000 Because we use Google, because we use fucking Facebook, because we buy Nikes, because we buy Ford, because whatever. 0.98
01:59:57.000 What's going to happen is people realize, whatever I buy, that's the real power. 0.97
02:00:03.000 And when I say that, what I mean is, if you look at pre-2008, number one sellers, Escalade, Hummer, all the big SUVs.
02:00:15.000 Post-2008, Prius. 0.97
02:00:19.000 Because all of a sudden, gas fucking tripled in price. 0.97
02:00:24.000 So the only thing that really moves policy is how people vote with the dollars. 0.98
02:00:31.000 Because if you fucking start voting with dollars, with Unilever, with Procter& Gamble, with Ford, with GM, with Exxon, then you're going to move policy. 0.88
02:00:44.000 You can move policy decisions tomorrow. 0.99
02:00:47.000 Tomorrow. 0.99
02:00:48.000 Because these guys have lines to power and they say, fuck, these people aren't buying Fords anymore, they're not buying Exxon gas, they're not buying whatever. 0.98
02:00:56.000 The idea that oil is so, it fluctuates so much has always been baffling to me. 0.98
02:01:02.000 It doesn't fluctuate that much, but yeah.
02:01:04.000 But it fluctuates enough.
02:01:05.000 It fluctuates between profit and crazy profit.
02:01:08.000 Well, do you remember when you were talking about the gas hike?
02:01:12.000 You remember there was right when Bush was leaving office, when George W. was leaving office.
02:01:17.000 And right when he was leaving office, it became like this weird feeling.
02:01:21.000 Like the gas was so expensive that it became like this weird feeling. 0.96
02:01:26.000 People who weren't conspiracy theorists were going, wait a minute, are we getting fucked? 0.76
02:01:30.000 Like is he leaving and in the process, does he have like... 0.90
02:01:34.000 Some crazy three-month grace period where they just start sucking money out of people because it just started going up and up and up.
02:01:41.000 And you're like, well, sorry, we have to pass on this loss to the consumer.
02:01:45.000 Oil is more expensive these days.
02:01:47.000 Wait a minute.
02:01:48.000 Why is oil more expensive?
02:01:50.000 What exactly is going on?
02:01:51.000 Why is it coincidentally coinciding with you leaving office?
02:01:56.000 We couldn't dig into that then.
02:01:58.000 That would be very difficult to pull off today.
02:02:01.000 If the same situation was happening today, It would be much harder to pull off.
02:02:06.000 10 years from now, more difficult.
02:02:09.000 20 years from now, impossible.
02:02:11.000 That's what I think. 0.99
02:02:12.000 I think that all this creepy shit that they've been able to do and fuck people over and clandestine operations like that, I think you can't hide it anymore. 0.99
02:02:21.000 That's why they're so mad at guys like Edward Snowden. 0.99
02:02:24.000 That's why they're so mad at guys like Julian Assange.
02:02:26.000 Those guys, they broke the first holes in the dike and the water's coming through.
02:02:32.000 I don't mean that kind of thing, Brian.
02:02:34.000 Yes, because if you look at it, you say, if you look at after 9-11, the Saudi royal family who are living here in America were flown out.
02:02:46.000 Why?
02:02:48.000 Because whenever we have problems with oil prices, we just go to Saudi and say, make more.
02:02:55.000 And the prices come down.
02:02:57.000 Just because they own the most reserves.
02:03:00.000 The easy stuff.
02:03:01.000 The beautiful crude.
02:03:03.000 When is that?
02:03:04.000 What year is that?
02:03:05.000 2008. Wow.
02:03:07.000 That's crazy.
02:03:09.000 So what happens is if we have a problem with supply, we go to Saudi and say, what OPEC should have been, which was how can we drive prices up? 0.74
02:03:22.000 Saudi Arabia actually deneutered because they said, okay, we're going to fucking drive prices down whenever the states say yes.
02:03:29.000 That's what's interesting. 0.94
02:03:30.000 Yeah.
02:03:31.000 Because that's why Al-Qaeda exists. 1.00
02:03:35.000 Because we are Saudi Arabia's friend, and we use them to go up and down, Bin Laden, who comes from one of the fucking richest families in Saudi Arabia, said, fuck you. 1.00
02:03:48.000 We're the land of Mecca and Medina. 1.00
02:03:51.000 We are the land of fucking Islamic purity. 1.00
02:03:53.000 We're not going to kowtow to the Americans. 1.00
02:03:56.000 That's where it all comes from.
02:03:57.000 It all comes from Saudi Arabia because of oil and because we force them to, you know, lower oil prices, which makes us money, which then they see as we're in cahoots, and then boom.
02:04:09.000 That's why there's resentment against us.
02:04:11.000 When you find out about these, you know, small countries that were doing terrible up until oil production, and then they became like this most incredible magical land where everything is essentially free.
02:04:25.000 Yeah.
02:04:25.000 I mean, the amount of wealth that people in those lands acquired.
02:04:30.000 And not in a long period of time.
02:04:33.000 A fairly short period of time is when you look at human history.
02:04:37.000 All of a sudden, they have...
02:04:38.000 Not human history.
02:04:39.000 Yeah.
02:04:40.000 Modern culture.
02:04:41.000 Yes.
02:04:41.000 Yeah, anything, really.
02:04:42.000 Essentially one of the...
02:04:43.000 Abu Dhabi.
02:04:43.000 If you fly into Abu Dhabi, which has the two largest mosques in the world, you fly in and there's a picture from 1957. And it's a mud fort and like four huts.
02:04:54.000 Yeah.
02:04:55.000 And then you drive into Abu Dhabi now, which looks like Las Vegas on steroids.
02:04:59.000 Yeah. 0.98
02:04:59.000 In fucking 50 years, they've built... 0.98
02:05:04.000 New York. 0.99
02:05:05.000 Well, someone on my message board had that point.
02:05:08.000 They were saying, you know, that I always go on and on about the pyramids.
02:05:11.000 I'm fascinated about the pyramids.
02:05:13.000 Well, yeah.
02:05:13.000 And some guy showed this aerial photo of Dubai.
02:05:17.000 And he was like, fuck the pyramids, man. 1.00
02:05:18.000 Look how crazy this shit is. 1.00
02:05:20.000 I was like, you know what? 1.00
02:05:21.000 It went from nothing.
02:05:22.000 Yeah.
02:05:22.000 Yeah.
02:05:22.000 50 years.
02:05:23.000 It went from zero.
02:05:24.000 A mud hut to...
02:05:25.000 Yeah, he's got a point.
02:05:27.000 One day, if we ever found Dubai.
02:05:31.000 The more impressive aspect of the Egyptian pyramids is we don't understand how they were built.
02:05:36.000 We don't get it. 0.97
02:05:36.000 So we look at just the sheer size and the numbers of stones, and we're like, fuck, how'd they do that? 0.97
02:05:42.000 But what happened? 0.97
02:05:44.000 What happened to the voice?
02:05:46.000 Did it pop out?
02:05:47.000 What happened?
02:05:49.000 Check, check.
02:05:50.000 There it goes.
02:05:51.000 But the difference between the amount of structures they had...
02:05:54.000 How did you even know that happened?
02:05:56.000 I felt the sound stop in my ear.
02:05:59.000 It was just the cord.
02:06:00.000 Whoops.
02:06:01.000 Great.
02:06:02.000 No.
02:06:03.000 No, I didn't get it.
02:06:04.000 Don't worry.
02:06:04.000 I almost got my laptop again.
02:06:05.000 Oh, God. 1.00
02:06:06.000 I'm a fucking fool for this. 1.00
02:06:08.000 Paper touch right here. 1.00
02:06:09.000 Right to the right of you.
02:06:12.000 Anyway, where were we?
02:06:16.000 Pyramids.
02:06:17.000 Oh, yeah.
02:06:18.000 We're getting into it now.
02:06:18.000 If you flew over Manhattan, you know, if Manhattan was abandoned in the desert, it would be like ten times more insane than finding the pyramids because the structures, there's so many of them.
02:06:28.000 What I find crazy about pyramids and actually Bronze Age weapons is that we can't build weapons like that anymore.
02:06:39.000 Like what weapons?
02:06:40.000 There was a thing I was watching, so therefore it has to be true because it was on TV, about Bronze Age swords that were so insanely strong.
02:06:51.000 Because I always thought they were shitty lead swords or copper swords or whatever.
02:06:55.000 They had Bronze Age armor and Bronze Age swords and they would shoot like a Bronze Age armored vest with like a modern day rifle and it couldn't penetrate it.
02:07:06.000 Really? 0.98
02:07:06.000 And I was like, how the fuck is that even possible? 0.98
02:07:09.000 That sounds like nonsense. 0.99
02:07:10.000 No, it isn't nonsense.
02:07:13.000 And swords that are like still Bronze Age swords that can cut through like crazy.
02:07:18.000 Actually, it sounds like nonsense now that I say it.
02:07:21.000 Can you do me a favor?
02:07:22.000 You're just laughing your head off.
02:07:24.000 Can you do me a favor and look up Bronze Age armor slash Bronze Age weaponry? 0.76
02:07:31.000 That's just nonsense, son.
02:07:33.000 Well, hold on. 1.00
02:07:34.000 Until fucking I get verification, I'm not... 0.98
02:07:39.000 Well, they certainly spent a lot of time making weapons back then. 0.98
02:07:45.000 I don't know how we've devolved into fighting over Bronze Age weaponry.
02:07:51.000 It's definitely not my number one sphere of expertise.
02:07:56.000 How much time do you think they must have spent building a samurai sword?
02:08:00.000 All the time.
02:08:01.000 Because what I was about to bring up with you is This is what you want right here?
02:08:09.000 Bronze Age swords?
02:08:10.000 Yeah, but what I want you to do is there's got to be an article about Bronze Age weaponry being more sophisticated than modern day weapons. 0.72
02:08:19.000 That's silly. 0.99
02:08:20.000 Not guns and shit. 1.00
02:08:22.000 Metallurgy? 0.99
02:08:23.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.65
02:08:24.000 Well, maybe with our modern day bronze, because we figured out bronze kind of sucked.
02:08:29.000 Well, correct. 1.00
02:08:30.000 We moved on to some better shit. 0.99
02:08:32.000 But there's a thing about Bronze Age weapons. 0.99
02:08:37.000 Armor.
02:08:39.000 What's the thing?
02:08:40.000 That it's super strong.
02:08:41.000 That it's dope?
02:08:42.000 I don't know.
02:08:42.000 I don't want to get too far off on this.
02:08:45.000 Because I'm not...
02:08:46.000 I just...
02:08:46.000 I read a thing about it.
02:08:48.000 That's all.
02:08:49.000 Well, I believe that they certainly had some knowledge.
02:08:52.000 Hold on.
02:08:52.000 I was about bows and swords.
02:08:54.000 And there's a lot of weapons that they constructed back then that were pretty advanced.
02:08:58.000 You know? 0.99
02:08:58.000 They figured out some shit. 0.99
02:09:01.000 I had a thing that we were going to... 1.00
02:09:03.000 I was going to fucking bring it up. 0.98
02:09:04.000 I lost it. 0.99
02:09:05.000 I've had a few ales. 1.00
02:09:07.000 This is the problem with the end of our goddamn... 0.99
02:09:09.000 There's no problems. 0.99
02:09:10.000 Our podcast is...
02:09:13.000 What do you guys think about the pastor that recently died?
02:09:16.000 The guy that attacked all the gays?
02:09:18.000 Do you think that it's... 0.99
02:09:21.000 The gays and everyone should attack his funeral? 1.00
02:09:25.000 Why? 0.99
02:09:26.000 Or do you think they should take the higher ground?
02:09:27.000 Show that they're just like him?
02:09:28.000 Yeah, or take the higher ground.
02:09:29.000 What do you think about that? 0.99
02:09:30.000 That's a ridiculous question. 0.99
02:09:31.000 Of course he shouldn't attack his funeral. 1.00
02:09:33.000 We should ignore that poor old fuck. 1.00
02:09:34.000 Yeah, but it might shock their whole family and their whole cult to be like, oh shit, now I see what you're talking about. 1.00
02:09:39.000 That's fucked up. 1.00
02:09:40.000 No. 1.00
02:09:40.000 No, you'd be a hypocrite. 1.00
02:09:42.000 And also, you're not going to shock their family. 1.00
02:09:45.000 Their family was under the, like, they were under the reign of a dictator, like a religious dictator, an old cunt. 1.00
02:09:51.000 He was an old crazy asshole who screamed to people and scared the fuck out of them and had them all believing that his way was the only way. 1.00
02:09:57.000 He's the God Hates Facts guy. 1.00
02:09:59.000 He's the guy who holds up those signs. 1.00
02:10:00.000 Okay, he's just a crazy old dude. 0.99
02:10:02.000 That's all. 0.98
02:10:02.000 You don't know House of Cards and I don't know this guy. 0.98
02:10:07.000 Well, Fred Phelps, Westboro Baptist Church is a pretty big story. 0.96
02:10:10.000 I'm going to put up my hand because I know we wrote a lot of stuff about it for Vice, but I don't know shit about it. 1.00
02:10:17.000 Anyway, the bottom line is that the guy was an asshole and now he's dead. 1.00
02:10:22.000 It's unfortunate that people get roped into that sort of hateful organization like that. 1.00
02:10:28.000 You know, my whole thing is it takes all sorts.
02:10:30.000 I don't know what you do over in your compound.
02:10:33.000 Well, it's not just that because this guy would go out and he would attack people.
02:10:37.000 He would go out and they would protest funerals of veterans.
02:10:40.000 What I'm saying is he was going out there being a bad guy.
02:10:44.000 I'm saying I don't try to look in my neighbor's next door yard and...
02:10:50.000 Oh, like he was doing, you're saying?
02:10:52.000 Or anybody does.
02:10:54.000 Yeah, well, you know what, man?
02:10:55.000 It's just sad when people get... 1.00
02:10:56.000 Some people are easily led, and instead of finding some nice religious leader who's put together a nice community and they all have picnics and shit, they found an asshole. 1.00
02:11:09.000 I mean, that's really essentially what happened. 1.00
02:11:11.000 They got roped into some shithead's gravity, and now he's dead. 0.98
02:11:16.000 Yeah, they definitely shouldn't protest his funeral, man. 0.99
02:11:18.000 No.
02:11:19.000 Just, you know, he's a lesson. 1.00
02:11:21.000 You're just trying to start shit alone. 0.99
02:11:22.000 No, I'm not, man. 0.99
02:11:23.000 It's a really legit question.
02:11:25.000 Trust me, I believe in dynamic fasteners and all that, like, karma, high, like, positive stuff.
02:11:31.000 Dynamic fasteners?
02:11:33.000 What are you talking about?
02:11:34.000 Do you know what dynamic fastener is?
02:11:36.000 No, what is it?
02:11:38.000 Dynamic fastener is something that he's like a huge sponsor for all these UFC fighters.
02:11:42.000 Right, but what is it?
02:11:43.000 It's just like parts.
02:11:45.000 It's like screws and bolts, but this guy's just a big UFC fan, so he just pays for all these people.
02:11:50.000 You can't just say that. 0.99
02:11:51.000 No one's going to know what the fuck you're talking about. 0.99
02:11:53.000 I didn't know what you're talking about. 0.99
02:11:54.000 I've seen the ads, but I had no idea what your connection was. 0.99
02:11:57.000 It's so ridiculous. 0.97
02:11:58.000 I don't know what it is. 0.98
02:11:59.000 I never looked into what that was.
02:12:01.000 It's really interesting because the guy's just a fan.
02:12:04.000 And then you realize it's not that expensive to be a sponsor for one of these fighters.
02:12:08.000 So this guy that just owns this part guy, he's just a fan.
02:12:12.000 So now everyone's coming out in shirts with this dynamic fastener on it.
02:12:16.000 And it's just like nothing.
02:12:19.000 Well, it's his company.
02:12:21.000 There's another guy who does that too.
02:12:23.000 A technologies guy who does that.
02:12:25.000 I asked him once.
02:12:25.000 I was like, why do you advertise?
02:12:27.000 He goes, I just like it.
02:12:28.000 Like seeing the name of my company.
02:12:30.000 I think it was like the real world or something.
02:12:33.000 And it was like the biggest show on TV at the time.
02:12:36.000 And it would show at like 3 in the morning when most people would get home in New York.
02:12:40.000 And there was the guy, the Brooklyn Clown.
02:12:42.000 The Brooklyn Clown? 0.99
02:12:44.000 He was a clown. 0.66
02:12:45.000 But it would be like the number one show on TV, but people would come home at like 3 in the morning, and he was a clown who would buy like the advertising spots for like a grand. 0.91
02:12:56.000 And so it was this huge show that millions of people would watch, but all the advertising would be about the Brooklyn clown. 0.54
02:13:05.000 It's actually really cheap to get advertising late at night.
02:13:07.000 That's what I was trying to do.
02:13:08.000 It's like Tito's Tacos.
02:13:09.000 Seriously, you know how many tacos it costs?
02:13:12.000 You were saying the fastener guy can get in there and get the thing.
02:13:15.000 This guy was super smart because he's like, oh, here's this time slot that everyone's getting home to watch the real world.
02:13:23.000 It was some big show.
02:13:24.000 Well, how weird is it when they give away their whole channel or when they have a fake show?
02:13:28.000 There you go. 0.99
02:13:28.000 That's the weirdest shit ever. 0.99
02:13:30.000 You're like, am I with Montel Williams? 0.99
02:13:31.000 Is this a real show, Montel?
02:13:32.000 How about Trudeau, right?
02:13:33.000 What's going on here, Montel?
02:13:35.000 30 years you got, right?
02:13:36.000 In jail?
02:13:36.000 Trudeau?
02:13:37.000 No, 10. He got 10 years.
02:13:38.000 You got 10 only?
02:13:39.000 Yeah.
02:13:39.000 Have you done a mirror?
02:13:41.000 No.
02:13:42.000 No, I wouldn't have him on.
02:13:43.000 I would never have that guy on.
02:13:44.000 Well, because I watched a lot of those infomercials.
02:13:47.000 I met him.
02:13:48.000 He's a nice guy.
02:13:49.000 I met him because he put a bunch of money into something called the IPT. It was the International Pool Tour.
02:13:57.000 And he put on these gigantic events in Vegas.
02:14:02.000 Like, the most money people ever got paid from professional pool was Kevin Trudeau.
02:14:07.000 Really?
02:14:07.000 Yep.
02:14:08.000 And he put together a television show.
02:14:09.000 And he was going to have these guys play, and it was on television, and they were playing pool for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
02:14:16.000 They had done it full blast.
02:14:18.000 Like, he put the pedal to the metal, spent millions of bucks that he had robbed from little old ladies who thought they were going to lose weight. 0.68
02:14:23.000 And me.
02:14:24.000 With secrets they don't want you to know about.
02:14:26.000 And me.
02:14:27.000 But he spent all this money under the premise that there was laws that hadn't been instituted yet.
02:14:36.000 They didn't know that they existed.
02:14:37.000 They were going to write them about internet gambling.
02:14:40.000 So when they made the business model, they factored in internet gambling.
02:14:45.000 People would be able to gamble on these pool matches and we'll profit from that.
02:14:49.000 And then there'd be residual.
02:14:50.000 We'll have a bunch of gambling junkies associate our site with a good place to gamble. 0.97
02:14:55.000 You know, because there was all these online gambling poker places.
02:14:58.000 All those people that got arrested and had to move to Costa Rica.
02:15:00.000 Well, this is all part of that, okay? 0.99
02:15:03.000 So when they came in and shut down online gambling, he was fucked. 0.99
02:15:07.000 So he lost shitloads of money. 0.99
02:15:10.000 Oh, spilled it again.
02:15:12.000 Had to give people their money back, had to pay off these pool players in fractions on the dollar.
02:15:21.000 I mean, I don't know what the fraction was.
02:15:22.000 It was 75 cents on the dollar.
02:15:24.000 Some of them got paid all their money, but he didn't pay all of them.
02:15:28.000 Maybe they all got paid eventually.
02:15:30.000 It's a long struggle you're talking about, right? 0.99
02:15:32.000 That's some interesting shit. 0.99
02:15:34.000 So then, Poole takes this big fucking slide afterwards, but everybody sort of hopes and prays that this guy gets his shit together and comes back to Poole. 1.00
02:15:44.000 He's like the savior of Poole, this fucking crazy guy who rips off old ladies. 1.00
02:15:49.000 I actually want to do that story as a movie. 1.00
02:15:52.000 That's the most insane thing ever.
02:15:54.000 Because he did this pool thing, it blew up in his face, and then he said, I'm going to cure cancer with cigarette ash. 0.87
02:15:59.000 No, no, he always had the nonsense. 0.65
02:16:01.000 The nonsense was always there. 0.95
02:16:02.000 He always had nonsense. 0.69
02:16:03.000 He used the nonsense to make his money.
02:16:05.000 Because I get home at like four in the morning, so I watch late night infomercials.
02:16:12.000 And I'm weak at that hour.
02:16:16.000 Right.
02:16:16.000 I'm not the strongest.
02:16:18.000 No, no.
02:16:18.000 I'm not the strongest mentally.
02:16:20.000 Oh, I see.
02:16:21.000 I see.
02:16:21.000 I don't know why that came up.
02:16:24.000 We talked about you getting led down a dark road because of one of these infomercials.
02:16:27.000 You come up, you're wasted.
02:16:28.000 Right.
02:16:29.000 And he's going, you know what? 0.99
02:16:32.000 It's fucking powdered asparagus. 0.99
02:16:36.000 That's what's going to do it. 0.99
02:16:37.000 I'm like, you know what I'm in?
02:16:39.000 Coral calcium.
02:16:40.000 Remember that one?
02:16:41.000 I need some coral calcium.
02:16:42.000 That was the one.
02:16:43.000 I didn't know.
02:16:45.000 It's coral calcium.
02:16:46.000 Japanese people have thick, dark hair until they're dead. 1.00
02:16:49.000 I would have put it in my eyeballs. 0.90
02:16:51.000 Because it's 4.30 in the morning.
02:16:54.000 You're ready to go. 1.00
02:16:55.000 You're like, fuck, I want coral calcium. 1.00
02:16:57.000 It seems like it's something that's missing in my life. 1.00
02:16:59.000 Yeah, I need that shit. 1.00
02:17:00.000 Yeah, when it's really late at night, you're like, you're convinced. 1.00
02:17:03.000 He got fucked, though. 0.99
02:17:04.000 Yeah, 10 years is a long-ass time. 0.99
02:17:06.000 And, you know, he had done some time already.
02:17:08.000 He'd done like a few months.
02:17:10.000 He tried to tell the judge that he's changed his ways. 0.99
02:17:13.000 We gotta get, you know, we gotta do his, we gotta Wolf of Wall Street, that shit. 0.98
02:17:17.000 Well, you know, I have a good friend who worked for him for years. 1.00
02:17:21.000 Fuck off. 1.00
02:17:22.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:17:23.000 Let's make that.
02:17:23.000 If you want to make it happen.
02:17:24.000 We've got to do it right now.
02:17:25.000 I mean, I don't know.
02:17:25.000 Everybody, we want to do the movie.
02:17:28.000 Stop.
02:17:29.000 I don't know if my friend signed any NDA, so I have to be careful that Trudeau doesn't get out of jail and throw heat at him. 0.99
02:17:36.000 He might fucking escape. 0.98
02:17:37.000 That would be great. 0.99
02:17:37.000 Even if he told the story truthfully, though. 0.99
02:17:39.000 It would be Shawshank Redemption.
02:18:01.000 I don't know how to play Yeah, I mean, that's what half of those guys grew up doing.
02:18:06.000 Half of those guys, that's where they get their experience.
02:18:11.000 And so all of a sudden, they're wearing tuxedos and they're playing on TV. And it was one of those weird TV channels, too.
02:18:18.000 It was on one of those burgeoning... 1.00
02:18:20.000 We have to make a movie of this fucker. 1.00
02:18:22.000 It's interesting stuff, man. 0.99
02:18:23.000 They were good events, too.
02:18:24.000 He really did get the best players in the world. 0.99
02:18:26.000 It's also like a global news event that this fucker got. 0.99
02:18:30.000 Ten years, yeah. 1.00
02:18:31.000 So, anyway. 1.00
02:18:33.000 We shouldn't talk about it anymore, but we should make this fucking movie. 0.99
02:18:35.000 Yeah, listen, man. 0.99
02:18:36.000 You should make the movie, and I'll tell you with a story.
02:18:38.000 I'll connect you to people.
02:18:39.000 I'm not making any movies, man.
02:18:41.000 I got no time for that.
02:18:42.000 Ain't nobody got time for that.
02:18:45.000 That story is kind of unique, though. 0.99
02:18:48.000 It's unique also that Pool is a tragic fucking game. 0.99
02:18:52.000 It's a tragically haunted game, and I'm not exactly sure why. 0.99
02:18:57.000 It seems like somewhere along the line, Pool fucks somebody over. 0.98
02:19:01.000 First of all, it didn't fuck anyone over. 0.99
02:19:04.000 It's a barroom game that you bet your... 0.98
02:19:08.000 Pitcher money on.
02:19:10.000 And all of a sudden it was legitimate because of an awful, but amazing, Tom Cruise movie.
02:19:18.000 And then you're like, why isn't it snooker?
02:19:22.000 Well, it was way bigger before the Tom Cruise movie.
02:19:26.000 In the 1900s, the turn of the century, there was a thousand...
02:19:29.000 Snooker was snooker.
02:19:30.000 No, no, pool.
02:19:31.000 There was a thousand pool halls in New York City at the turn of the century.
02:19:35.000 Pool was huge.
02:19:36.000 And no, the term pool doesn't mean pocket billiards.
02:19:40.000 Pocket billiards is the game.
02:19:41.000 The term pool is gathering up all your money and betting it, pooling your money together and betting it on games.
02:19:48.000 So pool was, the name pool, in fact, it was inherently connected to this derelict bachelor lifestyle. 0.93
02:19:55.000 I'm screwed now. 0.91
02:19:55.000 Why? 0.91
02:19:56.000 Because I got you on the subject of Poole.
02:19:59.000 The only thing that you know, like, he knows more about MMA than anything, except for Poole.
02:20:05.000 Well, there's a lot of people who know a lot more about Poole than I do, but I know enough.
02:20:09.000 I know enough.
02:20:10.000 In 1962 is when it became really famous, though.
02:20:12.000 It was The Hustler.
02:20:13.000 The Hustler, fantastic. 0.99
02:20:14.000 Jackie motherfucking Gleason, who could play his ass off. 0.99
02:20:17.000 Jackie could play really good, for real. 0.99
02:20:19.000 Paul Newman was making it.
02:20:20.000 He played Minnesota Fats.
02:20:23.000 Mm-hmm.
02:20:23.000 And then Paul Newman lost to him, but then beat him.
02:20:27.000 I was thinking about that, I can't be beat tonight. 0.99
02:20:30.000 Just that line, because I was on a roll, I was fucking giving people shit, whatever, and I was like, I can't be beat tonight. 0.99
02:20:37.000 And I was like, where's that from? 0.99
02:20:40.000 This is my table, man.
02:20:41.000 I own it.
02:20:43.000 That's Paul Newman.
02:20:45.000 Paul Newman couldn't play a lick.
02:20:47.000 He was terrible.
02:20:48.000 But you could tell he couldn't really play.
02:20:50.000 It was offensive. 0.99
02:20:51.000 To a real pool player, you watch his goofy stroke and shots that he'd make, you're like, get out of here with that fucking combination bank shot. 1.00
02:20:58.000 That's nonsense. 0.99
02:20:59.000 Nobody really shoots that shot.
02:21:00.000 So you're going to say that?
02:21:01.000 What about Tom Cruise?
02:21:03.000 He can play.
02:21:04.000 Really?
02:21:05.000 Yeah, Tom Cruise, he apprenticed with Mike Siegel.
02:21:08.000 Mike Siegel, who's a multiple-time world champion, and also was a lefty like Tom Cruise.
02:21:12.000 Mike Siegel, who's a friend of mine, is a brilliant pool player, literally one of the greatest of all time.
02:21:17.000 And he mentored Tom Cruise and taught him how to play.
02:21:19.000 You just destroyed my brain. 1.00
02:21:20.000 Tom Cruise is a maniac. 1.00
02:21:22.000 Vince. 1.00
02:21:22.000 He fucking took that dude and he taught him how to play, and he looks like a pool player. 1.00
02:21:26.000 He doesn't look like a great pool player, but There's a fluidity of motion to someone who's truly good at something. 0.99
02:21:32.000 I have an open bridge.
02:21:33.000 So I'm going to tell you a true story.
02:21:35.000 When I was a young kid, there was a lot of pool playing in Montreal, like for money.
02:21:40.000 And I had a girlfriend who was a girl.
02:21:43.000 A girl and a friend.
02:21:45.000 But she was a fantastic pool player. 1.00
02:21:48.000 But she was like, if you ever see anyone...
02:21:52.000 Who has an open bridge?
02:21:54.000 You've won.
02:21:55.000 That was the whole thing.
02:21:57.000 And so Paul Newman has an open bridge.
02:22:00.000 Well, that's not really correct.
02:22:01.000 There's a lot of really great players.
02:22:03.000 Rob Saez, one of the best in the world, plays almost exclusively with an open bridge.
02:22:07.000 Very rarely closes his bridge.
02:22:09.000 He just prefers to cite the cue that way.
02:22:10.000 Once you get really good, it doesn't matter.
02:22:12.000 There's certain shots where some guys prefer a closed bridge, but there's some great snooker players that never close their bridge.
02:22:18.000 All the guys that came over from snooker, snooker's all done with an open bridge.
02:22:21.000 Sure.
02:22:21.000 And they have the best fundamentals out of almost any pool player.
02:22:24.000 It's so far in the fucking pockets. 1.00
02:22:26.000 Tiny pockets, tiny balls. 1.00
02:22:28.000 It's a very precise game.
02:22:30.000 So the mechanics have to be absolutely perfect.
02:22:32.000 So snooker players have...
02:22:33.000 Are you a better fighter or pool player?
02:22:35.000 At this point in my life, I suck at both at this point in my life. 0.79
02:22:39.000 Whatever. 1.00
02:22:40.000 You suck at both. 1.00
02:22:41.000 No, I suck at both. 1.00
02:22:43.000 You're like five times Taekwondo champion.
02:22:48.000 State championship, I won four years in a row. 0.99
02:22:51.000 That's fucking big. 0.98
02:22:52.000 But that was 1988. 1989, 1990, 1991. It still exists in the world history. 0.99
02:22:57.000 85 to 88. So you're one of the best...
02:23:03.000 Lovers?
02:23:04.000 Taekwondo, guys.
02:23:05.000 Are you better at pool or taekwondo?
02:23:08.000 Come on.
02:23:09.000 I was definitely better at taekwondo.
02:23:10.000 Okay.
02:23:11.000 Yeah, I was way better.
02:23:12.000 At pool, I got marginal at best.
02:23:14.000 At pool, I'm a decent, what do you call it, beat player.
02:23:17.000 Would you play for money?
02:23:18.000 Yeah, I'd play for money.
02:23:19.000 It's fun.
02:23:20.000 It's fun.
02:23:20.000 But I'm not good enough to beat anybody that's actually good.
02:23:23.000 Pool is something that you have to literally play eight hours a day.
02:23:27.000 Can you win right off the rack?
02:23:29.000 What do you mean?
02:23:30.000 Can I run out?
02:23:30.000 Yeah, I can run out.
02:23:31.000 It's just not that consistent.
02:23:33.000 I can break and run out, but I might not do it the next game.
02:23:36.000 I might miss it.
02:23:37.000 You really need to put in the numbers, the hours, because what you're doing when you're playing, when you get really good, is you are so in tune with the amount of effort that it takes to knock your stick into this ball that you're literally counting the revolutions with feel that the ball's going to make.
02:23:55.000 It's like archery in a lot of ways, in that when you're actually executing, it requires absolute complete concentration.
02:24:06.000 And there's something that's very attractive to me about anything that requires absolute complete concentration, whether it's martial arts, whether it's pool, whether it's archery.
02:24:15.000 I think there's something deeper that's going on.
02:24:17.000 I think my brain is recognizing that it needs some intense stimulation.
02:24:22.000 But that's what I like about the hustler and color of money is...
02:24:25.000 When they're going, there's a rhythm.
02:24:28.000 They're just popping.
02:24:29.000 They're just doing it.
02:24:30.000 And when they're not, they're like, oh, I'm hitting shots.
02:24:34.000 Right. 1.00
02:24:34.000 But when he's going, he's like, I can't be beat, motherfucker. 1.00
02:24:37.000 Well, did you ever see there's a scene in The Hustler where he plays this guy, or in The Color of Money, where he plays this guy, Grady Stevens? 0.99
02:24:44.000 Yeah.
02:24:44.000 Remember that?
02:24:45.000 There's a shootout.
02:24:46.000 It's only worse.
02:24:47.000 Well, that guy, it only gets worse, doesn't it?
02:24:49.000 That guy is one of the best pool players ever.
02:24:52.000 Especially money players.
02:24:53.000 That's Keith McCready.
02:24:54.000 He's a real, legit, big money player.
02:24:57.000 And he was a real, unique player because he started playing so young that he couldn't reach over the table.
02:25:03.000 So he started playing with his arm cocked out to the side.
02:25:06.000 And he stuck with that forever.
02:25:08.000 And he was just a world beater, this guy.
02:25:11.000 And that's what he used to do.
02:25:12.000 He used to walk into pool halls with a shirt that said, the world gets the eight.
02:25:16.000 You know what that means?
02:25:17.000 That means he spots you in a game of nine ball.
02:25:19.000 He spots you the eight ball.
02:25:20.000 That means if you get the eight ball in or the nine ball, he wins only with the nine ball.
02:25:24.000 So he's giving professional players an advantage.
02:25:27.000 He's like, that's how confident he is.
02:25:29.000 Right.
02:25:29.000 And it was a real guy.
02:25:30.000 So when he's playing this Grady Stevens, to the people that know the game, it's very appropriate.
02:25:37.000 It's perfect.
02:25:38.000 That movie really represented a lot of the craziness that gambling and pool and being on the road is.
02:25:47.000 None of them ever get it right.
02:25:48.000 You know what?
02:25:48.000 I hate all remakes, especially of classics.
02:25:53.000 And The Hustler is such a great fucking film. 0.99
02:25:56.000 It was an excellent follow-on of a guy who was just like sitting there in his own shit just going, I'm going to come back now. 0.99
02:26:05.000 It's awesome. 0.97
02:26:06.000 Yeah.
02:26:06.000 Well, Walter Tevis is the guy who wrote both of them.
02:26:10.000 And he wrote The Hustler and he also wrote The Color of Money.
02:26:13.000 But The Color of Money, the book, is a very different book.
02:26:15.000 It's a very different ending.
02:26:16.000 It follows Fast Eddie.
02:26:19.000 He goes around by himself.
02:26:20.000 There's no Vince.
02:26:21.000 There's no Tom Cruise character in the book.
02:26:22.000 They made the Tom Cruise character because they wanted to jazz it up.
02:26:26.000 It was a good move for Poole.
02:26:28.000 For Poole, it was a huge movie.
02:26:30.000 Fantastic. 0.99
02:26:31.000 But since then, video games came along and kicked pool in the dick. 0.96
02:26:35.000 Was that book hard to follow? 0.97
02:26:36.000 I can imagine a pool book being like that.
02:26:38.000 Well, that's just you, though, because you're not into pool.
02:26:40.000 Yeah, but I mean, like, did they explain, like, the ball rolled down?
02:26:43.000 No, it's not really about pool.
02:26:44.000 See, that was the thing about The Hustler, too.
02:26:46.000 Did you ever see that movie, The Hustler?
02:26:47.000 A long, long time.
02:26:49.000 It's really not about Poole.
02:27:19.000 So much of it was just a character study.
02:27:22.000 And that was the fascinating thing about that movie. 1.00
02:27:24.000 The pool playing, like I said, was dog shit. 1.00
02:27:26.000 Paul Newman looked like he couldn't make a ball. 1.00
02:27:28.000 Jackie Gleason could play.
02:27:29.000 He could play better than all of them.
02:27:31.000 Better than Tom Cruise, better than Paul Newman.
02:27:33.000 Paul Newman, who was just a brilliant actor, just didn't put the time in.
02:27:37.000 You would have to put a lot of time in to look like a real pool player.
02:27:41.000 Because there's like a gentleness to the stroke of a real pool player.
02:27:45.000 Jackie Gleason in that is classic.
02:27:46.000 Oh, Jackie Gleason really was an amazing cat.
02:27:49.000 Yeah.
02:27:50.000 You know, and an unabashed drinker, too.
02:27:53.000 Yes.
02:27:53.000 They would ask him, like, why he drinks.
02:27:56.000 He goes, I drink to get fucked up. 0.97
02:27:58.000 You know what's weird about Jackie Gleason? 0.99
02:28:00.000 I was somewhere recently.
02:28:02.000 I was in Guyana. 0.94
02:28:03.000 I was in Guyana doing this garbage thing that we're doing. 0.95
02:28:07.000 And I watched this old French film. 0.95
02:28:09.000 It's a huge French film.
02:28:10.000 Like, successful, like, massive, like, cultural French film.
02:28:14.000 The star of the film...
02:28:16.000 Jackie Gleason.
02:28:17.000 Wow. 1.00
02:28:36.000 As the star who never says a fucking word. 0.99
02:28:38.000 And by the way, it's like Burt Lancaster did the same thing with The Leopard in Italy where it was a huge successful film where he spoke in Italian and he did it phonetically. 0.99
02:28:48.000 Right.
02:28:49.000 They would just say it into his ear and he'd say the same thing.
02:28:51.000 Wow.
02:28:52.000 But Jackie Gleason was just like- So he had an earpiece while he was acting?
02:28:55.000 No, no, no.
02:28:55.000 They would just say like, Cento famiglia, vente une.
02:29:00.000 And he would, and then they'd say, Roll it.
02:29:03.000 They would just say it in his ear and he'd just do it phonetically.
02:29:08.000 Oh, okay, okay.
02:29:09.000 There's no earpiece.
02:29:10.000 So he just repeated it.
02:29:12.000 Yeah. 0.87
02:29:13.000 And then, but Jackie Gleason has this, like, huge French, like, you know, film, like, that's, like, French fucking, like, cultural, where he's the star of it as this janitor in a building, and he never says a word.
02:29:28.000 When I lived in New York, I had a friend who, one of his friends knew the guy, it was a fucking cockeyed connection, and But they were all in the music business, like rock and roll guys, like one of them was in this band.
02:29:42.000 He knew a dude who somehow or another knew someone who bought Jackie Gleason's old home. 0.73
02:29:48.000 And Jackie Gleason, this is the story.
02:29:52.000 Jackie Gleason is obviously third hand. 0.98
02:29:54.000 Could be total horseshit. 0.97
02:29:55.000 That's it. 0.98
02:29:56.000 The story was, and it's a fun story, that Jackie Gleason was drinking with Nixon.
02:30:00.000 And him and Nixon were buddies. 0.99
02:30:02.000 And they're talking football and throwing back some fucking Jack and Cokes. 1.00
02:30:06.000 And Nixon's like, you want to see a fucking UFO? They get in Air Force One and they fly to some military base where they've got a crashed flying saucer. 0.99
02:30:18.000 And Jackie Gleason from then on becomes a crazy UFO believer.
02:30:24.000 And Jackie Gleason has this backyard in upstate New York and he has a fake UFO designed and built in his driveway to replicate the thing that he saw.
02:30:33.000 He hires a bunch of people to try to recreate something.
02:30:36.000 He puts it together in his head, sort of like a crime sketch.
02:30:40.000 Like, you would try to reenact it.
02:30:42.000 I want to live there.
02:30:44.000 That's the fun story.
02:30:45.000 How do we buy that house?
02:30:46.000 Do you believe it?
02:30:47.000 I don't know.
02:30:48.000 I would like to find my...
02:30:49.000 I did fuck up my computer.
02:30:51.000 It's not working.
02:30:52.000 Luckily, I got a backup.
02:30:53.000 Joe, you're Spilly McSpillerson. 0.73
02:30:55.000 Yeah.
02:30:55.000 You're drunk.
02:30:58.000 Why don't you get that chemical that you could just put on your computer?
02:31:00.000 That's probably a good idea.
02:31:01.000 Alright, buddy.
02:31:02.000 But I don't know if Jackie Gleason really did.
02:31:04.000 Why don't you Google it?
02:31:05.000 Find out.
02:31:06.000 Did Jackie Gleason really into UFOs?
02:31:09.000 Was Jackie Gleason into UFOs?
02:31:11.000 Well, Joe Rogan once said... 0.99
02:31:14.000 I spread my own fucking Wikipedia information. 0.98
02:31:17.000 I like that story a lot. 0.92
02:31:18.000 I'll make up a story, not even realize I made it up, put it out there, and then I'll find it on Wikipedia and I'll use it as a reference to prove when I tell the story again.
02:31:27.000 Trip to the alien morgue.
02:31:28.000 Ooh, you got it.
02:31:29.000 Wow, so this is a real rumor.
02:31:31.000 To the moon, Alice.
02:31:32.000 There was a time when you could say that phrase.
02:31:35.000 Scroll that down.
02:31:37.000 Stop.
02:31:38.000 Go back.
02:31:39.000 Collaborate.
02:31:39.000 Listen.
02:31:40.000 Stop right there. 1.00
02:31:41.000 You're fucking drunk as shit, dude. 1.00
02:31:44.000 There was another size Jenkins, extremely serious, armchair UFO researcher, and prided himself on a huge collection of UFO-related books, which numbered into the thousands. 1.00
02:31:54.000 See, I call bullshit. 0.97
02:31:55.000 You know why? 0.98
02:31:56.000 I doubt there's thousands of books written on UFOs.
02:31:59.000 Especially back then.
02:32:00.000 Put that back up.
02:32:01.000 What more could you say?
02:32:02.000 Like, oh, you know, and then he saw a light, too.
02:32:05.000 As soon as the new...
02:32:07.000 Title came out.
02:32:08.000 Even in Europe or the UK, Jackie had a copy.
02:32:10.000 Hmm.
02:32:11.000 Well, I don't know if it's true, but that was the story that this guy told me about the guy's house.
02:32:17.000 I like the story.
02:32:17.000 It's a dope story.
02:32:18.000 I like the story.
02:32:19.000 And if that's true, if Jackie Leason really was some sort of a crazy UFO fanatic, and that's the root of it.
02:32:25.000 I like it even more. 0.99
02:32:26.000 Imagine if it's fucking true. 0.99
02:32:28.000 Oh, it's all true. 0.97
02:32:29.000 What a beautiful thing it would be if they really did have like a hangar 18. You know what I want when we're old and we're sitting on the cove drinking our drink, looking at the water, just me and you, gray, old silverbacks, and someone's going to go, you know what?
02:32:43.000 Fucking Jackie Gleason went to Area 51 and saw that shit. 0.99
02:32:48.000 I wonder. 1.00
02:32:49.000 What's going to happen?
02:32:51.000 Yeah, I wonder.
02:32:52.000 I wonder.
02:32:53.000 It will happen.
02:32:53.000 I wonder if they really do have something.
02:32:56.000 I mean, that would be...
02:32:57.000 I would wish one person who was legitimately intelligent, who was dying, would spill the beans.
02:33:04.000 I wish.
02:33:05.000 Every dude that spills the beans, you're like, man, I don't know. 1.00
02:33:07.000 You're a freak. 1.00
02:33:08.000 You fucking weirdo. 1.00
02:33:10.000 It just... 1.00
02:33:10.000 I'm not... 1.00
02:33:11.000 My one thing is how impossible would it be to keep a secret?
02:33:18.000 It would be too impossible.
02:33:20.000 You know one person would say something.
02:33:22.000 I don't agree with that because they kept a secret when they were making the Manhattan Project.
02:33:27.000 But that was a different era.
02:33:29.000 One thing I will say is maybe those movies and TV shows and leaks and everyone...
02:33:37.000 Because we're all like, oh yeah, Area 51, of course, it's the aliens.
02:33:41.000 Like, maybe that's...
02:33:43.000 Maybe that's part of it.
02:33:44.000 Well, look, we know that secrets can be kept.
02:33:47.000 Secrets totally can be kept.
02:33:49.000 Because we didn't find out about the Gulf of Tonkin until way, way late.
02:33:54.000 There were some people involved in the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
02:33:56.000 When did it become mainstream news?
02:33:59.000 30 years?
02:34:00.000 40 years?
02:34:01.000 Secrets can be kept.
02:34:03.000 But nowadays...
02:34:07.000 It's pretty different.
02:34:08.000 If secrets could be kept though, wouldn't the most important secret be we found aliens?
02:34:14.000 That would be like one of the biggest secrets you would ever want to keep. 0.99
02:34:17.000 The last thing you want is these motherfuckers just freaking out because there's aliens. 0.99
02:34:22.000 I like the movies though where it's just a given. 0.99
02:34:25.000 They're like, yeah, well we just got the spaceships from Area 51. Yeah.
02:34:29.000 Done.
02:34:29.000 How many movies are that, though?
02:34:31.000 A lot. 0.99
02:34:32.000 Most movies, when they try to depict what it would be like if we were attacked, it's fucking terrible. 0.86
02:34:38.000 I like the fact that we started off with saving democracy. 0.94
02:34:42.000 Well, you got drunk along the way, and so it shifted to Alien.
02:34:45.000 It's standard. 1.00
02:34:46.000 Bigfoot's next, bitch. 1.00
02:34:48.000 When are you going looking for him? 1.00
02:34:49.000 Come on, you and Dean Cain. 1.00
02:34:51.000 Fucking get up. 0.99
02:34:53.000 He's got that show on Spike. 0.99
02:34:55.000 I'll do it.
02:34:56.000 Has a girl ever squirted on you before? 1.00
02:34:59.000 Are you reading my brain? 0.59
02:35:00.000 Are you part of the NSA? Is this what's happening?
02:35:04.000 No.
02:35:05.000 Brian's drunk.
02:35:06.000 The NSA has given you all my information.
02:35:08.000 It happened recently.
02:35:13.000 Alright.
02:35:13.000 I love you guys.
02:35:15.000 Wow.
02:35:16.000 Brian.
02:35:17.000 I love you, champs.
02:35:19.000 Brian, next time, one less drink.
02:35:21.000 Seriously.
02:35:21.000 Just one less.
02:35:22.000 Keep it together.
02:35:24.000 All right, my diamonds.
02:35:26.000 What is next for, can you remember right now, if we shake your memory, what's next for your show?
02:35:34.000 What do you got going on that we should know about?
02:35:35.000 Tomorrow night is Greenland, the world is sinking, and modern-day slavery.
02:35:43.000 David Cho, who comes on this show, is doing a thing on scrapping, which our metal is going to build China.
02:35:54.000 This is what we talked about last time you were here, I believe.
02:35:57.000 Yeah, he's up on the air.
02:35:58.000 I believe we talked about it last time.
02:35:58.000 He's up on air next week.
02:36:00.000 They're taking metal from old factories in Detroit and using them to build new factories in China.
02:36:07.000 I mean, but one place where it's really an issue is Detroit.
02:36:12.000 Yeah, it's gangs, like street gangs.
02:36:15.000 How we heard about it was... 0.99
02:36:17.000 Like Crips and Bloods and shit. 0.98
02:36:20.000 We're not going to sell crack anymore because there's not enough money. 0.99
02:36:23.000 We're going to go steal like copper from old Packard plants in Detroit.
02:36:27.000 But like Pittsburgh, Cleveland, all the Rust Belt.
02:36:31.000 And it was a pretty good story until we, you know, figured out who was buying it, which is China.
02:36:38.000 It's our largest export.
02:36:40.000 $11 billion a year.
02:36:41.000 The largest export is scrap?
02:36:43.000 From America to China, yes.
02:36:45.000 What's number two?
02:36:46.000 I have no idea.
02:36:48.000 Oranges. 0.98
02:36:49.000 Porn. 0.92
02:36:50.000 No, I don't know.
02:36:51.000 But number one, by a long way, is scrap.
02:36:54.000 It's one of those dark things they don't like to talk about.
02:36:56.000 And so, Cho finds it out and then hangs out with these Chinese buyers. 0.98
02:37:00.000 And it's pretty fucking insane. 0.97
02:37:03.000 It's really good. 0.95
02:37:05.000 We talked about genetic passports.
02:37:10.000 Anyway, I don't know. 0.99
02:37:11.000 We have a lot of shit coming up. 0.92
02:37:12.000 How many episodes do you guys do there a year? 0.98
02:37:15.000 12. Wow.
02:37:16.000 We're probably going to do 24, actually, now.
02:37:19.000 Now, does HBO give you any directorial notes?
02:37:23.000 Nothing.
02:37:23.000 Zero.
02:37:23.000 That's how they do it, right?
02:37:25.000 Yeah.
02:37:25.000 They give you money and you go make it.
02:37:27.000 I've been trying to get you to come do a segment with me for a long time.
02:37:30.000 Yeah, but you always want to take me to somewhere that's dangerous and terrible.
02:37:33.000 We've got to go find that.
02:37:34.000 Let's go to Malibu and look for bad plastic surgery.
02:37:38.000 Okay.
02:37:40.000 You find a story.
02:37:42.000 I want to go do a story with you.
02:37:45.000 Okay, what do you want to do?
02:37:47.000 Force him. 1.00
02:37:48.000 He can't do shit. 1.00
02:37:49.000 No, no. 0.99
02:37:50.000 What would you really want to do?
02:37:50.000 I was actually just looking at him, but thinking of the nation.
02:37:57.000 What kind of a show would you want to do?
02:37:59.000 I don't know if that means we're done on time.
02:38:01.000 No, that's just Brian.
02:38:02.000 He's drunk. 1.00
02:38:04.000 I thought you would enjoy the fucking North Pole story. 1.00
02:38:08.000 You're out of your mind. 1.00
02:38:09.000 Yeah, you got me wrong.
02:38:10.000 You don't want to go get the six-foot chip, which, by the way, you brought up.
02:38:14.000 The six-foot what?
02:38:15.000 Chimp. 0.98
02:38:15.000 Yeah, I'm scared of that chimp. 0.98
02:38:17.000 Because the chimp's in the middle of the Congo. 1.00
02:38:19.000 We have a friend.
02:38:20.000 So where do you want to go?
02:38:21.000 I want to go.
02:38:22.000 Cuba.
02:38:23.000 We'll go interview the Castro. 0.67
02:38:25.000 You go to Cuba and then they check your underwear drawer for the rest of your life every time you check into a hotel.
02:38:29.000 Correct.
02:38:30.000 You've got real problems if you go to Cuba, man. 1.00
02:38:31.000 They look deep up your asshole. 1.00
02:38:33.000 The last thing you do is go to Cuba and talk about how you're going to Cuba. 1.00
02:38:37.000 Where will you come with me?
02:38:42.000 I'll go to Miami with you. 0.99
02:38:43.000 That's about as close as I get to fucking Cuba. 0.99
02:38:46.000 Yeah, I'm not a good guy for your show, dude. 0.99
02:38:48.000 I'm telling you.
02:38:48.000 I'm a good guy for you to come on and talk about your show.
02:38:51.000 I can help you there.
02:38:53.000 Someday, I'm going to convince you to come with me.
02:38:55.000 I'm trying to do less and less things.
02:38:59.000 That's my goal. 0.98
02:39:00.000 My goal is to do less shit as I get older. 0.99
02:39:02.000 And just more shit where I can just do whatever I want. 0.99
02:39:05.000 You know what I get more than anything from this show is one time when I got wasted, as opposed to now, I was like, you know what? 1.00
02:39:14.000 We're just trying to get to the fucking cove. 0.98
02:39:15.000 I must get... 0.99
02:39:17.000 Five tweets a day of like, I'm trying to get to my cove.
02:39:20.000 I'm trying to get to my cove.
02:39:22.000 And by the way, I just came back from a long trip doing a shoot and I spent three days on a boat in the middle of a cove and I'm like, I'm trying to get to my cove.
02:39:31.000 I'm trying to get to my cove. 0.98
02:39:32.000 I just kept repeating that because I'm just trying to get down there, get to the cove and fucking chill the fuck out. 0.85
02:39:38.000 Well, I think everybody ultimately has this ideal image in their head of some golden retirement or some point in time where everything's going to be still. 0.90
02:39:47.000 I don't think anything's ever still.
02:39:49.000 I agree.
02:39:50.000 But you've got to try to get there.
02:39:52.000 You've got to find a balance in the ride itself.
02:39:55.000 That's what you've got to find.
02:39:56.000 You can't wait for the rest stops. 1.00
02:39:58.000 These rest stops are bullshit. 1.00
02:40:00.000 It's not happening. 0.99
02:40:01.000 But you have more energy and power in your spine.
02:40:06.000 I'm an old man.
02:40:07.000 I'm like, you know what?
02:40:09.000 I'm trying to get to the cove.
02:40:10.000 I know you are.
02:40:11.000 And I'm not anti-relaxation.
02:40:14.000 What I'm saying is that I think if you really did do nothing, if you really sat somewhere and did nothing, you would only like it for a few days.
02:40:23.000 You're right.
02:40:24.000 You're a guy who likes to investigate things and stimulate your mind, and you like to be a part of something that's bigger than you.
02:40:30.000 There's a reason why the universe chose you for this role. 0.99
02:40:34.000 I mean, that sounds like total hippie bullshit. 0.99
02:40:36.000 No, no, no. 0.99
02:40:37.000 But I do want to get to the cove.
02:40:39.000 I'm sure you do.
02:40:40.000 Well, it's because you probably are a little bit imbalanced.
02:40:43.000 You work so much. 1.00
02:40:44.000 It's probably the cove becomes like this ultimate magnet because you're fucking redlining shit all day long. 1.00
02:40:51.000 Trying to sleep with the knowledge of Liberia's general buck naked running around when he'd killed how many fucking kids and eaten their hearts. 1.00
02:41:00.000 You know, you're fucking hitting the gas all day long, man. 1.00
02:41:04.000 You need to go down to Peru, get some ayahuasca, cleanse your soul, reboot your system. 1.00
02:41:09.000 You've probably seen way too much shit, man. 1.00
02:41:11.000 I'm in. 0.99
02:41:12.000 That's why you're down with this cove idea.
02:41:14.000 You want this cove so bad.
02:41:16.000 I'm going to build the cove and you're going to come.
02:41:18.000 Do you ever consider that, that everybody has this sort of crazy role in this weird machine that is life, this weird complex algorithm that's the human race?
02:41:27.000 Yes.
02:41:27.000 And do you ever wonder why you're in the position that you're in?
02:41:33.000 No, but I think that everybody, you're right, I think that everybody has a sort of role to play in the grand algorithm of life.
02:41:43.000 My position, not really because, I don't know about you, but I'm not any different than I was five years ago when no one listened to me.
02:41:55.000 Right.
02:41:55.000 And...
02:41:58.000 You know, money is the modern-day report card, and I have now a lot of money, but I'm actually giving all that away.
02:42:06.000 I'm putting it in trust.
02:42:07.000 Because you're like, well, I didn't actually do it for money. 0.99
02:42:11.000 I don't actually give a shit about money. 0.93
02:42:14.000 And I didn't actually do it for fame. 0.99
02:42:16.000 Because I don't know about you, but when people come up to you in the street and say, hey dude, fucking awesome.
02:42:21.000 You're like, I don't know you, I don't know anybody, I don't know whatever. 0.99
02:42:26.000 But what I will say is, you sit there at some point and go, this shit, I spent 40 years turning the other way and saying, I don't give a fuck, or I'm going to just get drunk, or I'm going to drink a beer, or I'm going to go get laid, or I'm going to just fucking do what I do. 0.99
02:42:42.000 Because getting through the day is hard. 0.99
02:42:44.000 And at a certain point, you get a little bit older.
02:42:46.000 You have kids.
02:42:47.000 For me, it was kids.
02:42:48.000 And you go, yeah, I can't do that anymore. 1.00
02:42:51.000 I got to sit there and say, this is bullshit. 1.00
02:42:54.000 You know what they're fucking doing over there in Iraq? 1.00
02:42:56.000 It's bullshit. 1.00
02:42:56.000 What they're doing in Afghanistan is bullshit. 1.00
02:42:58.000 What they're doing here fucking in the Gulf of Mexico with Correction is bullshit. 1.00
02:43:02.000 And so now I'm like, you know what? 1.00
02:43:05.000 I waited for somebody else to fucking say this shit, and nobody's saying it. 1.00
02:43:11.000 And I'm not the best person, and I'll tell you right now, I'm not the best person to be saying this shit, but we have to start saying shit, otherwise we're fucked. 1.00
02:43:18.000 But you are the best person. 0.99
02:43:20.000 I'm not.
02:43:20.000 But you're not, because you're...
02:43:22.000 Look, no one's the best person, but you are about as good an example as you're going to get, because you bridge the gap.
02:43:30.000 You're a regular human who lived a regular life, who got to a point in your life where something mattered to you much more than it mattered before, when you had children.
02:43:40.000 And then you took a stand.
02:43:41.000 A lot of people would go the other way.
02:43:43.000 A lot of people, when there's the coward point of view, is you get to a point where you have children, and then you just want to shut up.
02:43:50.000 You just want to be quiet.
02:43:52.000 You want to, don't make a lot of noise.
02:43:54.000 Well, you know how it is.
02:43:55.000 You have kids?
02:43:56.000 Yeah.
02:43:56.000 All of a sudden you're like, look, you could have had the best life ever.
02:44:00.000 Just keep doing what you're doing.
02:44:01.000 I could have done the same. 1.00
02:44:02.000 When you have kids, you're like, what the fuck, dude? 1.00
02:44:05.000 That's when the environment becomes important because you're like, okay, I'm going to die. 1.00
02:44:08.000 It's going to be okay.
02:44:09.000 Yeah, there's a certain selfishness that a single person will...
02:44:15.000 For sure.
02:44:16.000 It's not even selfishness, really.
02:44:18.000 It's just thinking about yourself is a natural thing.
02:44:22.000 The idea that we made being selfish...
02:44:24.000 It doesn't mean you don't think about other people as well.
02:44:28.000 So you should be self-aware. 0.99
02:44:29.000 But having kids is selfish because I'm selfish because I want my kids to fucking... 0.99
02:44:39.000 But isn't the ultimate goal to see how much you love your kids and say, man, if the whole world could love each other the way I love my kids, we would have no fucking problems. 0.99
02:44:47.000 Any problem we would have, we would work out.
02:44:50.000 But isn't the reality that people don't even do anything when they have no strife?
02:44:55.000 When they have no thing they're battling against? 0.92
02:44:58.000 They don't really fucking strengthen their resolve. 0.99
02:45:00.000 They don't really get their shit together. 0.99
02:45:02.000 It seems like we almost need resistance in order to get anything done. 0.99
02:45:07.000 We almost need someone to oppose us in order to strengthen ourselves to a position where we move forward.
02:45:12.000 I agree.
02:45:13.000 And I also think that If left to our own devices, you're like, it goes back to that zero-sum game like we were talking earlier about saying what we've gotten to is this realpolitik zero-sum game.
02:45:27.000 There isn't a zero-sum game when you have kids. 1.00
02:45:30.000 There isn't just there's a winner and a loser and I kill you and then you are dead. 0.94
02:45:35.000 When you have kids, everything becomes like, well, I won, but guess what? 0.96
02:45:40.000 They don't have any water to drink.
02:45:43.000 So, I don't know, I shifted.
02:45:46.000 My whole brain shifted when I had kids, because I was a different guy. 1.00
02:45:50.000 And then all of a sudden I had kids and I was like, actually, motherfucker, I already knew that that was bullshit, what you were doing. 1.00
02:45:58.000 I knew fucking, you know, $78,000 hammers were bullshit, but I used to go, ha ha ha, $78 fucking hammer. 1.00
02:46:05.000 And now I'm like, no, fuck you. 1.00
02:46:07.000 $78,000 hammers, that's bullshit. 1.00
02:46:09.000 I don't want to fucking pay my taxes for that shit. 1.00
02:46:12.000 And I just got angry. 1.00
02:46:15.000 Because all the bad shit, all the stuff that you roll your eyes, all the shit you say, you know, this is fucking bullshit, this is stupid, we shouldn't be doing this, I got serious. 1.00
02:46:24.000 Because then you're like, okay, it's fine. 1.00
02:46:27.000 Guess what?
02:46:28.000 Climate change is undeniable. 1.00
02:46:30.000 The fucking oceans are rising. 1.00
02:46:33.000 You want to have a debate? 1.00
02:46:35.000 You want to have a fucking war? 1.00
02:46:36.000 You want to have a fucking... 1.00
02:46:37.000 The fact that it's even a debate is a fucking joke. 1.00
02:46:41.000 And guess what? 1.00
02:46:42.000 We don't have the time anymore because our kids are fucked. 1.00
02:46:46.000 So guess what? 1.00
02:46:47.000 I can't fuck around anymore, snorkel all night, fucking wear my fancy jeans and get wasted. 1.00
02:46:51.000 I gotta go out there and fight these motherfuckers because otherwise my kids don't have a fucking future. 1.00
02:46:59.000 And by the way, not my kids. 1.00
02:47:01.000 Everyone's kids.
02:47:02.000 Did you see that NASA report when they looked at climate change and a bunch of different factors and they were talking about the future of the human race?
02:47:10.000 They made this extrapolation.
02:47:12.000 And they're like, we're doomed.
02:47:15.000 If you talk to most scientists, and by the way, real scientists, not these dudes in the play of Exxon, it's like a given.
02:47:25.000 This is why I get pissed off.
02:47:27.000 It's because I'm like, you know who's done a bad job? 0.82
02:47:29.000 It's the scientific community at messaging the fact that, okay, if there's a fucking loophole, if there's like, well, it's this or this within 6%, and then everybody else goes, well, 6% is this and this, you're like, hold on a second. 0.56
02:47:46.000 We are 60 years ahead of our worst case projection. 0.51
02:47:50.000 The worst case projection of the IPCC 10 years ago.
02:47:53.000 We're already 60 years ahead.
02:47:56.000 60 years ahead. 1.00
02:47:57.000 And I was talking to the global scientific community and I'm like, what the fuck? 0.99
02:48:01.000 Why doesn't anyone know about this but you guys? 0.99
02:48:05.000 They're like, well, it's a given.
02:48:08.000 It's not a given with anyone I know.
02:48:09.000 Most people have no idea.
02:48:12.000 Most people have no idea.
02:48:14.000 They just go to work and they hear bad things about the economy, but then they hear 150,000 new jobs were created last quarter.
02:48:22.000 But you know as well as I do what's happening in California.
02:48:24.000 This is what it says.
02:48:25.000 NASA Back Study says human civilization is headed for irreversible collapse.
02:48:31.000 Yes.
02:48:31.000 According to the new NASA... I don't know what that means by NASA Back Study.
02:48:34.000 It sounds very fancy.
02:48:35.000 But I'm not exactly sure.
02:48:37.000 But you understand NASA is like conservative.
02:48:40.000 Like there's scientists out there that are crazy for sure.
02:48:43.000 Right. 1.00
02:48:43.000 Like whenever I talk to scientists, I try to get the most conservative motherfuckers because you know they're going to come after you. 1.00
02:48:52.000 Right. 0.98
02:48:52.000 But the thing is, is what's happening now is we are en route for a global cataclysmic environmental catastrophe. 0.98
02:49:02.000 Right.
02:49:03.000 And everyone agrees to that.
02:49:04.000 Right.
02:49:05.000 Everyone.
02:49:05.000 Right.
02:49:06.000 But we're like, why aren't we trying to stop it?
02:49:08.000 Do you think there's any way that something can be done along the way that we never saw coming that could fix the whole thing?
02:49:15.000 Yes.
02:49:16.000 What do you think that could possibly be? 0.99
02:49:19.000 So, this is probably bullshit, but I was at the Google Zeitgeist conference. 0.99
02:49:26.000 There was this kid. 0.98
02:49:27.000 Did I tell you this story before?
02:49:28.000 He's 13 years old.
02:49:30.000 He builds a reactor in his...
02:49:32.000 Did I tell you this guy?
02:49:33.000 I believe so, but it's a great story.
02:49:35.000 Keep going.
02:49:35.000 Okay.
02:49:36.000 So he blew me away.
02:49:37.000 He built a reactor when he was 13. 17, he came up with a way to find radioactive waste.
02:49:42.000 Anyway, so he came up with this...
02:49:45.000 Which is true, that 90% of uranium isotopes, you know, 235, etc., which we can't dispose of.
02:49:55.000 The majority of their energy is still left in there, over 90%.
02:49:59.000 So he's like, okay, we've come up with these reactors where we can take the old energy rods that we can't even dispose of, deplete them, and then that will fuel the Earth's energy needs for the next 10,000 years.
02:50:14.000 Because all of those energy rods from the Soviet Union, from us, uranium-235, we can all do it.
02:50:23.000 Now, maybe not true, He's 23 years old.
02:50:26.000 Right.
02:50:26.000 I don't know.
02:50:28.000 But if that's even like a.0001% true, that he can take all the shit that we can't even dispose of and power the world with it, fuck yeah. 0.99
02:50:41.000 That's technology. 0.99
02:50:43.000 Right.
02:50:43.000 Now, I don't know if that's true, but I'm hoping for some sort of technological solutions.
02:50:49.000 Well, I'm hoping along the way he doesn't create something even more fucked up while he's trying to burn that uranium. 0.96
02:50:54.000 Which might happen. 0.99
02:50:55.000 Which might happen.
02:50:56.000 I don't know.
02:50:57.000 But what I'm hoping is for some tech solution that comes along to say...
02:51:01.000 Because you know what the other alternative is? 0.99
02:51:04.000 We're fucked. 1.00
02:51:05.000 We're fucked. 1.00
02:51:06.000 Yeah, I think the tech people are our brightest hope. 1.00
02:51:08.000 They seem to be self-policing.
02:51:10.000 I mean, look at the big companies like Google.
02:51:13.000 They actually...
02:51:15.000 They spend a lot of money on their employees.
02:51:17.000 They kind of had global ethics.
02:51:20.000 At least they try.
02:51:21.000 Yeah, you don't think of an evil company at all.
02:51:23.000 At least they try.
02:51:24.000 You hear that there's some issues with certain censorship in certain countries and things along those lines.
02:51:31.000 But when you connect Google, you connect them to the idea of a giant corporation that's committed to innovation.
02:51:36.000 They're not bad.
02:51:37.000 They don't seem bad.
02:51:38.000 They're not Exxon.
02:51:40.000 But...
02:51:41.000 That seems to be something that you find more of in the tech community.
02:51:46.000 And I think it's because you're dealing with some really hyper-intelligent human beings.
02:51:50.000 And along with that hyper-intelligence and that connection to each other that they have because of the internet, I think you see people that have a better moral company.
02:51:59.000 Well, they're also trying to solve global problems by using technology.
02:52:04.000 Now, I'm not good at technology, but...
02:52:07.000 You're awesome at it, dude.
02:52:08.000 You have Vice.com.
02:52:09.000 How dare you?
02:52:09.000 If I had...
02:52:11.000 The ability to figure out the world's energy problems by depleting old uranium rods?
02:52:19.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:52:19.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
02:52:20.000 It seems like a good move. 1.00
02:52:21.000 Seems like a good move. 1.00
02:52:22.000 Dude, we run out of shit. 1.00
02:52:23.000 I love you. 1.00
02:52:23.000 We never run out of shit to talk about. 1.00
02:52:25.000 We just run out of time. 0.99
02:52:25.000 I love you. 0.99
02:52:26.000 I love you too, buddy.
02:52:26.000 I'm drunk.
02:52:27.000 It's fun.
02:52:27.000 You're hammered.
02:52:28.000 I have to go to bed.
02:52:29.000 You should probably go to bed.
02:52:30.000 I love you.
02:52:30.000 Joe Rogan, Death Squad, Red Band.
02:52:36.000 ShaneSmithVice.com ShaneSmith30 on Twitter.
02:52:39.000 Send him some love.
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02:52:43.000 Go to Vice.com.
02:52:44.000 I always forget that.
02:52:44.000 If you've never seen anything, start with the story on Liberia.
02:52:48.000 What's the Liberia one called?
02:52:49.000 I don't know. 0.79
02:52:50.000 And then go with Vice Travels about that dude who lives up in the middle of fucking nowhere in the Yukon and lives by himself. 0.85
02:52:57.000 Heimo's Arctic Adventure. 0.85
02:52:59.000 I like the North Korea one. 0.98
02:53:00.000 That's a great one too.
02:53:01.000 North Korea.
02:53:01.000 I found out about Vice from Heimo.
02:53:04.000 What a great story.
02:53:05.000 You guys have awesome contact.
02:53:07.000 Joe Rogan.
02:53:08.000 I love you, buddy. 0.99
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