The Joe Rogan Experience - April 11, 2014


Joe Rogan Experience #484 - Alexis Ohanian

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Alexis Ohanian
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Joe Rogan Experience #483 - Mark Kendall Joe Rogan Experience #485 - Amy Schumer

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2 hours and 43 minutes

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On this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, we talk about the new Warrior Bar, the new Hemp Force Protein Bar, and the new Onnit Protein Bar. We also talk about how much better it is to grow your own food than the stuff we get from other countries like Canada and how you can make money off of it, and how to get rid of the shit you can't grow in your own backyard. We're also getting a special discount from Onnit where they'll give you a 20% discount off your first purchase when you enter the referral box at checkout for more savings. Go to Onnit.co/TheJoeRoganExperience and enter promo code JCOMANEXPERIENCE when you sign up and get 20% off your entire purchase. If you have never been and you've never listened to this podcast, then this will be a new one for you, you're going to want to check it out! Onnit is a human optimization website that helps you optimize your life, your health, and your finances. They also do not represent the opinions and views of Brian Redman. They are not affiliated with any of the opinions expressed in the podcast, and they also do NOT represent the views expressed on the show by Brian's website. If you like what you hear, please tell me what you think about it on the socials! And if you like it, we'd really appreciate it! and we'll give it a shoutout! Logo by Courtney DeKorte on Insta: . Music by Jeffree and the . . . We'll be looking out for you in the next episode of The Joe Rogans podcast, if you're looking for the best things to listen to this episode, we'll send you a review of the episode on the next one. and if you want to review it on socials, then we'll get a shout out on that one on the pod, and send us a review! if it's a review on Instafilter of the podcast so we'll be listening to it or a review thank you! Thank you for listening and reviewing it on insta: . and all the best of your thoughts, love you, bye! love ya, bye, bye. bye, Jon! Jon - Caitie, Caitie Caitie & Joe -

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00:00:02.000 Hello, freaks. 1.00
00:00:03.000 What the fuck's going on? 0.99
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00:02:02.000 If you've listened to this podcast, you're going to be like, can this motherfucker say the same thing again? 0.99
00:02:08.000 Unfortunately, yes. 0.99
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00:02:12.000 What Onnit is, for those who don't know, is a human optimization website.
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00:02:37.000 We just started getting these. 0.99
00:02:39.000 They're made with cranberries and pepper.
00:02:41.000 No antibiotics.
00:02:42.000 No added hormones.
00:02:44.000 It's gluten-free.
00:02:44.000 No nitrates.
00:02:45.000 It's actually good for you.
00:02:46.000 14 grams of protein.
00:02:48.000 And very low in fat as well.
00:02:51.000 Four grams of fat per two ounce serving.
00:02:53.000 And it's healthy fat.
00:02:54.000 This is all like organic buffalo meat.
00:02:56.000 Interesting stuff.
00:02:57.000 You know, we always think like, oh, I need a snack.
00:02:59.000 And you just sort of sacrifice that you're just going to eat something that's just totally shitty for your body just to fill that hole and give you calories. 0.99
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00:03:09.000 Hemp Force Protein Bar is another one that we have. 0.99
00:03:11.000 Hemp Force Protein is the stuff that we get from Canada because we still have retarded laws here in America, and you can buy hemp, and you can have hemp, but you can't grow hemp. 0.99
00:03:19.000 And you can't sell it either, which is so fucking crazy, but you can sell it once you've already bought it. 1.00
00:03:24.000 You motherfuckers! 1.00
00:03:25.000 What are you doing?! 1.00
00:03:26.000 Is this like a pre-workout bar?
00:03:28.000 It's just a bar.
00:03:29.000 It's just got protein in it.
00:03:30.000 It's just hemp.
00:03:31.000 The same Hemp Force Protein that we have in the powder, it's in the bar.
00:03:35.000 They're really delicious, too.
00:03:36.000 They're easy to digest.
00:03:38.000 That's one of the best things about hemp protein.
00:03:40.000 It's one of the easiest to digest.
00:03:41.000 I really like whey protein.
00:03:43.000 I like the taste of muscle milk and a lot of those things. 0.99
00:03:46.000 But goddamn, did they erupt inside my booty hole. 0.99
00:03:49.000 I just get the worst farts ever from those things. 0.99
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00:03:59.000 It's just a little bit more difficult for your body to digest.
00:04:01.000 But apparently grass-fed whey is easier.
00:04:04.000 I know Asprey sells some grass-fed whey.
00:04:05.000 I think grass-fed whey is easier for your body to digest.
00:04:08.000 Sort of similar to how grass-fed butter is.
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00:04:22.000 Alright?
00:04:22.000 Boom.
00:04:23.000 That's it.
00:04:24.000 Ohanian?
00:04:25.000 How would you say it?
00:04:26.000 A lot of Armenians are rejoicing.
00:04:27.000 I just say Ohanian.
00:04:28.000 Oh, because you want to be Americanized.
00:04:30.000 Alexis Ohanian is here, ladies and gentlemen.
00:04:32.000 Cue the music, Brian Redman.
00:04:42.000 I don't know why we have to have the music, but we do.
00:04:44.000 I like it.
00:04:45.000 Otherwise it doesn't...
00:04:45.000 We've done it without the music several times.
00:04:47.000 We just get fucking crazy and we just go...
00:04:50.000 We said, you know, let's do the least produced version of this possible with no professionalism attached to it. 0.97
00:04:56.000 Anyway.
00:04:57.000 Which would be hard.
00:04:58.000 You guys run a tight ship here.
00:04:59.000 You gotta go with your right name, dude.
00:05:01.000 You gotta go with...
00:05:01.000 Yeah, you gotta go with that.
00:05:03.000 Fuck all these... 1.00
00:05:17.000 I'll tell you what I own. 1.00
00:05:20.000 See that first name?
00:05:22.000 Alexis?
00:05:24.000 Oh, okay.
00:05:24.000 I like that.
00:05:25.000 You grew up as a little pudgy kid named Alexis and you learned real quick to own that name.
00:05:30.000 Oh, that's awesome.
00:05:30.000 Because I was born in 83 and my father named me after a boxer, Alexis Arguello, this Nicaraguan fighter.
00:05:37.000 I know exactly who he is.
00:05:38.000 I got to see him fight live.
00:05:40.000 Serious?
00:05:41.000 Yeah, I got to see him fight live a long time ago.
00:05:44.000 Me and my friend Jimmy Lawless, we went down to, I think it was in Lowell, Massachusetts.
00:05:49.000 We saw Alexis Arguello live, and we saw Mickey Ward live before he became famous.
00:05:53.000 You should have brought my father.
00:05:54.000 What am I doing here?
00:05:55.000 Oh, it was awesome.
00:05:56.000 It was awesome.
00:05:56.000 In Lowell.
00:05:58.000 It was fucking great. 0.99
00:05:59.000 Lowell, Massachusetts. 0.99
00:06:00.000 Which is where Mickey Ward was from, so when he went out there, everybody went crazy.
00:06:03.000 Yeah, I got to see him when he was an up-and-coming contender, live.
00:06:06.000 But I've seen our grail.
00:06:08.000 My pop, he showed me he has an entire closet full of VHS tapes of his fights.
00:06:14.000 Wow.
00:06:15.000 Which I keep telling him he needs to do something about. 1.00
00:06:17.000 Digitize, bitch! 1.00
00:06:17.000 But now I just go on YouTube, and I got a quick query, and he had a wonderful mustache, an amazing left jab, and that combination... 1.00
00:06:25.000 Well, Alexis Aguero is awesome.
00:06:27.000 His straight right hand was a work of art.
00:06:29.000 And a gentleman.
00:06:30.000 Yeah, a really, really good guy.
00:06:33.000 Like a real man.
00:06:34.000 A real man's man. 0.71
00:06:36.000 So that was my namesake.
00:06:37.000 He died young, right?
00:06:39.000 He did.
00:06:39.000 It was a suicide.
00:06:40.000 Did he die of a suicide?
00:06:41.000 I've talked to Nicaraguans about this, and he got very involved politically after his fighting days, and there are a lot of people who believe there was more to that story than just a suicide.
00:06:50.000 No way, man.
00:06:50.000 That never happens.
00:06:51.000 Nobody ever kills anybody and tries to make it look like a suicide.
00:06:54.000 It's never happened, bro.
00:06:55.000 It's been snoped.
00:06:56.000 Have you ever snoped it?
00:06:58.000 I love my Snopes.
00:06:59.000 I love Snopes, too. 1.00
00:07:00.000 Snopes end a lot of stupid fucking arguments. 1.00
00:07:02.000 I always thought it was Snoops. 1.00
00:07:03.000 Real quick.
00:07:04.000 This is one of the advantages of the interwebs.
00:07:06.000 I know what you mean.
00:07:06.000 Isn't it like they're snooping for the facts?
00:07:08.000 No, no.
00:07:09.000 I think it's Snopes.
00:07:11.000 If it was Snoops, it would have two O's.
00:07:13.000 You could probably check Snoops for this, though. 0.98
00:07:17.000 If the English language wasn't so goofy and there wasn't any weird exceptions like that, it would be so easy to shit on you right now. 0.91
00:07:23.000 But there's a lot of ones that don't make any sense. 0.99
00:07:25.000 It's a pretty fucked up language. 0.98
00:07:26.000 This is very bizarre. 0.99
00:07:28.000 And it's more bizarre when you're working with words like Ohanian.
00:07:32.000 I know, man.
00:07:34.000 That's one of the reasons why you've got to give Schwarzenegger his props. 0.98
00:07:37.000 That's a bold goddamn move. 0.97
00:07:39.000 The guy owns Schwarzenegger. 0.99
00:07:41.000 Arnold.
00:07:42.000 Arnold.
00:07:43.000 And Arnold, too. 1.00
00:07:44.000 Arnold is fucking... 1.00
00:07:45.000 That's the kid from Different Strokes, you know? 1.00
00:07:46.000 I mean, it's not the manliest, most manly bodybuilder ever.
00:07:51.000 He made it, though. 0.99
00:07:51.000 Fuck yeah, he did. 0.99
00:07:52.000 See, Arnold, definitely a fighter. 1.00
00:07:56.000 I know I'm not...
00:07:59.000 Didn't fulfill my father's prophecy of me being a boxer.
00:08:02.000 Instead, I guess I'm a lover, not a fighter.
00:08:04.000 Well, you figured your own path out, sir.
00:08:07.000 Thank goodness.
00:08:08.000 Thank God for computers.
00:08:09.000 You don't have to be a fighter in the physical form.
00:08:13.000 Obviously, you figured out a way to succeed. 0.99
00:08:15.000 You figured out some cool shit. 1.00
00:08:16.000 For sure. 0.99
00:08:17.000 I mean, that's what everybody admired about Alexis Arguello was the same thing that anybody admires about anybody who is involved in the creation of something cool. 0.69
00:08:25.000 And you're involved in the creation of the coolest fucking website on the internet. 0.85
00:08:29.000 I certainly like to think so. 0.99
00:08:30.000 You're involved in Reddit.
00:08:30.000 Yeah.
00:08:31.000 You can't get a better hub of information, like when new things, innovation... 0.99
00:08:36.000 A lot of gossipy bullshit, too. 0.98
00:08:38.000 But that's people. 1.00
00:08:39.000 That's what we do.
00:08:40.000 That's what we do as people. 1.00
00:08:41.000 We like to talk shit. 0.97
00:08:42.000 But other than that, I mean, the resource, if anything is going down anywhere in the world at any time, you can pretty much find it at Reddit. 0.98
00:08:49.000 And it gets verified.
00:08:50.000 The vote-up system, like good posts rise to the top, bad posts fall down.
00:08:55.000 It's such a smart, cool thing.
00:08:57.000 And really the model, I think, for online discourse, when it comes to message board type discourse, I think you guys are the model.
00:09:05.000 I mean, it's amazing.
00:09:08.000 When Steve Hoffman, my co-founder, and I started this thing, we were in a little apartment.
00:09:12.000 In Medford, Massachusetts.
00:09:14.000 I lived in Medford.
00:09:15.000 In Medford.
00:09:15.000 We were on 72. I feel bad for whoever lives there now.
00:09:18.000 Can I say that?
00:09:18.000 No, don't say it.
00:09:19.000 Definitely not. 1.00
00:09:20.000 People go, fuck no. 1.00
00:09:22.000 I don't want to get in trouble. 1.00
00:09:24.000 It's on fucking, you know, whatever. 0.98
00:09:26.000 What's with the questions? 1.00
00:09:28.000 I'm in Medford.
00:09:30.000 Medford.
00:09:30.000 Yeah, and it was great.
00:09:31.000 We had just graduated from college.
00:09:32.000 Just graduated at UVA. Went up to Boston.
00:09:35.000 We raised $12,000 from Y Combinator.
00:09:37.000 Which would go on to invest in like Dropbox, Airbnb, and Reddit.
00:09:41.000 And with 12 grand in the bank, we worked our asses off for three months in that little apartment and built Reddit.
00:09:45.000 And to be a top 50 website now, 150 million people a month.
00:09:50.000 It's crazy.
00:09:50.000 It's crazy.
00:09:51.000 I love hearing shit like that. 0.99
00:09:53.000 It's so cool. 0.99
00:09:54.000 That's the American dream, man.
00:09:55.000 That is the American dream, 100%.
00:09:56.000 We were just some nerds with 12 grand in the bank total.
00:09:59.000 We just worked with a couple of laptops, no connections, and, you know.
00:10:03.000 Well, what's the American dream, right?
00:10:05.000 I mean, the American dream where your parents, somewhere in their past, either their parents or their parents' parents, came over from Armenia.
00:10:14.000 Oh, yeah.
00:10:14.000 Yeah, my father's side fled the genocide.
00:10:16.000 So what year was this?
00:10:17.000 We're talking about the early 1900s.
00:10:19.000 Yeah, so 1915 was when it got started.
00:10:21.000 If you want to get really real, so my birthday is April 24th, which is the remembrance day of the genocide.
00:10:27.000 So I'm half Armenian.
00:10:29.000 On my father's side, I'm full-on Armenian.
00:10:31.000 On my mother's side, I'm full-on German.
00:10:33.000 She actually immigrated.
00:10:34.000 She was fresh off the boat from Deutschland.
00:10:36.000 Wow.
00:10:37.000 So it's a really interesting 20th century. 0.99
00:10:39.000 Dude, your DNA has gone through some shit. 0.99
00:10:41.000 Yeah, it's a range. 1.00
00:10:42.000 Think about those two.
00:10:43.000 Yeah, and I feel like...
00:10:45.000 Having, I mean, right there, yeah, certainly from the Armenian side, you know, they came out of survival.
00:10:50.000 My mom actually came for love to marry my dad, very romantic.
00:10:54.000 But both of them, right? 0.98
00:10:55.000 The reality was, leaving her life, she was on track to be like a pharmacist in Germany, but coming to the States, she was just an ignorant, like, degree-less immigrant, right? 0.98
00:11:05.000 In quote-unquote. 0.85
00:11:07.000 And so she worked jobs that she had to work just because it was paying the bills. 0.99
00:11:10.000 Like, she worked as an au pair, she worked in...
00:11:11.000 I'm so incredibly, like, I'm proud of what she did to leave a life behind, a comfortable, great life in Germany to start fresh here.
00:11:18.000 And then obviously my father's family, like, you know, when you grow up with a bunch of Armenians, you know real quick how lucky you are to have that sort of genetic lottery of being born here instead of over there. 1.00
00:11:28.000 Yeah, I was totally ignorant to the genocide until I was interviewing a fighter, Manny Gamburian, after one of his fights.
00:11:38.000 And he was dedicating his victory to the victims of the Armenian genocide.
00:11:45.000 And he was trying to bring awareness to it.
00:11:46.000 And I was like, wow.
00:11:47.000 Good for him.
00:11:48.000 Yeah, he's a very proud Armenian.
00:11:50.000 So I had to look it up and find out what it was all about.
00:11:53.000 But that's one of those ones that you don't hear about too much.
00:11:56.000 Another horrific event.
00:11:59.000 It is certainly really unspoken.
00:12:02.000 I discovered System of a Down because I was listening to 98 Rock back in Maryland and I heard Sarge talking about the genocide.
00:12:10.000 And I was like, who is on a rock station talking about the Armenian genocide?
00:12:13.000 And I'm like, oh, Armenian rock band.
00:12:15.000 Isn't it crazy how one event like that It's not that Armenians wouldn't have nationalistic pride or pride of origin before that, but that one event has everybody bonded together so much more.
00:12:31.000 And especially because a lot of folks don't even know about the Armenian Genocide.
00:12:34.000 It is, and I was a history major too in school, so I've thought a lot about this.
00:12:38.000 And it's partially because it is unrecognized in Turkey and even here in the U.S. on a national level.
00:12:44.000 But it's this, I think it's the fact that it's still this open wound.
00:12:48.000 And it seems, it may seem moot.
00:12:50.000 Like, I understand the people who committed this are long dead.
00:12:52.000 Right.
00:12:53.000 But it's, I think it has such an effect on the psyche because we're all like, well, hold on.
00:12:57.000 Like, they're to deny the existence that this thing happened.
00:13:01.000 Is so incredibly offensive because it's not doing justice to all the people we know.
00:13:05.000 It's crazy that we're having this conversation because just 17 hours ago the US Senate committee passed an Armenian Genocide Resolution.
00:13:13.000 Seriously?
00:13:14.000 Yep.
00:13:14.000 So it's still got to go to the House or did it already?
00:13:16.000 It says, I don't know how it works. 0.98
00:13:18.000 I'm kind of ignorant. 0.88
00:13:19.000 But it says 12 senators voted for the resolution. 0.93
00:13:22.000 I feel like when I have to pay attention to how the government works as far as senators and congressmen and representatives, I get angry.
00:13:29.000 It hurts.
00:13:30.000 So I just shut it off.
00:13:31.000 I don't want to know who has to go to who.
00:13:33.000 You know why? 1.00
00:13:33.000 Because your system sucks. 1.00
00:13:35.000 It sucks. 1.00
00:13:35.000 This is such a donkey-ass old king system made when people were riding fucking horses and hurling bows and arrows at each other. 1.00
00:13:43.000 This fucking system's retarded. 1.00
00:13:45.000 So you make me know, well, it has to go through the House, and the House passes the Senator, and the Senator must pass muster. 1.00
00:13:51.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:13:52.000 It's dumb. 1.00
00:13:53.000 And it has been so co-opted by money and it's frustrating. 1.00
00:13:59.000 It is.
00:14:00.000 And I am an optimist.
00:14:01.000 Don't get me wrong.
00:14:02.000 I think the internet, I mean the reason, in part I wrote the book, the reason I campaigned against SOPA PIPA was I really believe the internet can be a way for us to get the government that we deserve.
00:14:11.000 I completely agree. 0.63
00:14:12.000 It's a process and there's a lot of shit to get through in the meantime. 0.98
00:14:15.000 Well, I think what the process really is is changing the way people's minds operate. 0.98
00:14:20.000 And I think that process, without a doubt, has already begun.
00:14:24.000 I think kids of today...
00:14:26.000 I'm 46 years old.
00:14:27.000 So anyone who's in their 20s, I guess, I'd be...
00:14:30.000 Talking about kids of today.
00:14:32.000 They're men, but they're kids.
00:14:33.000 They are so much more advanced than I ever was when I was at that age. 1.00
00:14:38.000 I was a fucking monkey. 0.99
00:14:40.000 I knew nothing. 1.00
00:14:42.000 I knew neighborhood, couple books, CNN news every now and then.
00:14:48.000 I knew nothing.
00:14:49.000 Yeah.
00:14:50.000 It's amazing, and it is...
00:14:52.000 I visited 77 universities on the tour, and it makes me jealous, frankly.
00:14:58.000 It makes me very hopeful, too.
00:14:59.000 But you're a part of it, man.
00:15:01.000 Yeah, but look, this is...
00:15:03.000 These kids grew up...
00:15:04.000 I remember getting that modem.
00:15:06.000 I had a 33.6 in middle school.
00:15:08.000 I remember getting my first PC. It was a 486SX. My parents...
00:15:11.000 I was lucky enough to get that when I got it in middle school, right?
00:15:13.000 My parents didn't have a ton of money, and they didn't know shit about technology, but they knew enough, and I got that chance, and that has provided everything for me.
00:15:19.000 But there are kids coming up today who, by and large, have known this technology from jump.
00:15:24.000 And they've known, they don't even know what a dial-up sounds like.
00:15:27.000 That's insane.
00:15:27.000 And so they think of knowledge as being something in real time.
00:15:31.000 Like you were saying earlier, you know, we're sort of developing this attitude of like, oh, right, we can go seek out this information.
00:15:36.000 We can squelch gossip on Snopes or we can go learn how to do, we can learn string theory on Khan Academy.
00:15:42.000 But this generation coming up, they just, they take it for granted because they just know, oh, I have a problem or I need to figure something out or I want to create something and share it.
00:15:49.000 Like, The internet.
00:15:50.000 And that's how all of us got to learn the programming languages that helped us build things like Reddit.
00:15:55.000 But it's helping filmmakers right now.
00:15:57.000 It's helping artists.
00:15:58.000 It's helping photographers.
00:15:58.000 It's helping comedians, right?
00:15:59.000 Like, think of the wealth of knowledge that the up-and-coming comic now has to learn from, to look, to share.
00:16:05.000 Yeah, the amount of...
00:16:06.000 The resource of just finding things to talk about.
00:16:09.000 As long as they don't men-see it, though.
00:16:11.000 Can't do that.
00:16:12.000 It's horrible.
00:16:12.000 That's a verb now.
00:16:15.000 But the amount of internet websites, internet search engines, amount of social media networks, whether it's Facebook or Twitter...
00:16:25.000 Just a sheer amount of funny stories that are coming your way as a comic today.
00:16:29.000 It's like if you can't write new material, you're just not paying attention. 0.97
00:16:32.000 It's not like the old days you had to wait for shit to happen. 0.99
00:16:35.000 You're living in fucking Pennsylvania and just looking left. 0.99
00:16:38.000 Come on, I need something to talk about. 1.00
00:16:40.000 Now all you have to do is go online.
00:16:41.000 It's constant.
00:16:42.000 It's overflowing. 0.63
00:16:43.000 It kind of sucks though because the same comics are also looking at the same news story and writing jokes about that.
00:16:49.000 That's totally gonna happen.
00:16:50.000 That's totally gonna happen.
00:16:51.000 Without a doubt.
00:16:53.000 Like, I was doing something about almond milk, and somebody let me know on the podcast that, what's his face, Louis Black has a great hunk on soy milk.
00:17:04.000 It's basically the same joke.
00:17:05.000 And, like, you find that out because of the internet, too.
00:17:09.000 But the good thing is, I wouldn't have known that unless that joke could have made it into my arsenal, and then I wouldn't have even known that Louis Black had it, and then it would be... 0.81
00:17:20.000 I would be accused of plagiarism, and I would feel stupid.
00:17:22.000 Can you change almond milk to something else? 0.94
00:17:24.000 I don't know.
00:17:25.000 It's not important.
00:17:26.000 It's a tiny part of the bit, but because of the internet, I know all this.
00:17:30.000 And think about it this way, right? 0.97
00:17:32.000 The speed with which you can learn shit, this brings everyone up. 0.97
00:17:37.000 It forces us, and we see this in tech all the time, just because of the nature of writing code and creating applications, you know competition is as efficient as it gets. 0.98
00:17:45.000 There's new stuff coming out every day.
00:17:47.000 And it forces you to stay up and to be innovating and to be pushing.
00:17:50.000 And now I think of it as there are so many more, in this instance, like comics who are connected, who are watching, who are seeing what someone is doing and they're like, alright, I'm not going to take that joke, but now I just got to, I have to push harder, faster.
00:18:02.000 And on the whole, I think we all benefit because we'll get better content.
00:18:05.000 Well, human beings would benefit.
00:18:08.000 The artistic expression would benefit.
00:18:10.000 The real problem with plagiarism, whether it's in that or blogs, you see it in blogs a lot.
00:18:16.000 I mean, people still are getting busted for it.
00:18:18.000 Yeah, rightfully so.
00:18:19.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:18:20.000 But the difference between the mindset is what's really important. 0.54
00:18:24.000 Like, the guy who's an actual writer, the guy or the girl who's an actual writer, the girl who's an actual comic, What they're trying to do is figure shit out.
00:18:32.000 And they're trying to find ridiculous points in things and then make funny observations about those points.
00:18:38.000 If you're just copying stuff, then you're not exercising whatever it is that tunes you into those ideas in the first place.
00:18:44.000 So that you're lost when you're done. 0.99
00:18:46.000 If you get busted stealing jokes, and then you have to write your own, you're like, holy shit. 0.99
00:18:52.000 I don't even know how to do this. 1.00
00:18:53.000 You're like an open-miker. 0.59
00:18:55.000 That's why you see the guys who've been accused of plagiarism.
00:18:58.000 There's just like... 0.98
00:18:59.000 High period in their careers and then this massive drop-off where you look at it and you go, oh my god, who the fuck is writing this? 0.97
00:19:07.000 This isn't funny at all. 1.00
00:19:08.000 You went from being this guy with these really funny points to this monkey with dog shit coming out of your mouth. 1.00
00:19:15.000 What is that from? 1.00
00:19:16.000 Which could be the act.
00:19:16.000 Yeah, it's a good act.
00:19:17.000 It's probably better than your jokes.
00:19:19.000 But it's because they never really did it in the first place.
00:19:21.000 They were just stealing.
00:19:23.000 And that mindset, they seem to be mutually exclusive.
00:19:26.000 Yeah.
00:19:29.000 Yeah.
00:19:37.000 Yeah.
00:19:46.000 It's unprecedented.
00:19:47.000 And you have to, I mean, in 05, two of us in a little apartment.
00:19:52.000 There's no Twitter.
00:19:52.000 There's no Tumblr.
00:19:53.000 Facebook is still in colleges.
00:19:54.000 It's still in, like, elite colleges back then.
00:19:57.000 Wow.
00:19:57.000 It was a different world.
00:19:58.000 But, and to give credit where it's due, I mean, I really, I do believe we're all standing on the shoulders of giants.
00:20:03.000 Also not my quote.
00:20:04.000 But, like, you know, the message board, right?
00:20:06.000 That's nothing new, right?
00:20:08.000 We had message boards.
00:20:09.000 I ran a message board in college for them.
00:20:11.000 You know, before that.
00:20:12.000 When did they come out?
00:20:13.000 Like, what was the first year of the message board?
00:20:15.000 Oh.
00:20:15.000 Well, I mean, really early internet.
00:20:16.000 You've got BBS systems.
00:20:19.000 You've got, I mean, like, the forum Usenet.
00:20:22.000 Like, basic forum software where someone creates an account, usually with, like, a pseudonym, right?
00:20:27.000 They create an account.
00:20:28.000 They post a link or they have a discussion.
00:20:30.000 This stuff is as old as the internet, as the World Wide Web.
00:20:33.000 What Steve and I got right was we adapted it, modernized it a bit, because we let people at large upvote or downvote.
00:20:41.000 And essentially, I hate to simplify it that much, but Reddit is like a next generation forum platform.
00:20:46.000 And then what we realized that Dig and all the Dig clones didn't realize...
00:20:50.000 Was that they were just one front page.
00:20:52.000 We knew if we were going to win, we would have to be a platform for communities.
00:20:57.000 Dig was a platform for a community, right?
00:20:59.000 The front page would only have so much stuff on it.
00:21:00.000 But we knew, you know, Steve and I knew that we had a, you know, there were things we were interested in, right?
00:21:04.000 We're interested in technology.
00:21:05.000 We're interested in the Redskins.
00:21:06.000 We're interested in like...
00:21:07.000 Just football.
00:21:09.000 We might have a certain audience, but what's going to make this work is if anyone who has a particular community or a following, whether you love My Little Pony and want to create a Reddit about that, a subreddit, which there are lots, or you want to create about your favorite team, or you want to create about your favorite TV show, or just about science, or asking questions about science.
00:21:26.000 Ask Science.
00:21:26.000 Amazing sub.
00:21:27.000 All these things exist because we knew this has to be a platform.
00:21:30.000 Just like Twitter is a platform for individuals, this would be a platform for communities.
00:21:34.000 It's just amazing that it's been able to be pulled off the way it is.
00:21:38.000 The vote up, vote down system is such a brilliant system because you're always going to have noise.
00:21:44.000 You're always going to have people that just want to make noise.
00:21:46.000 You're always going to have people that just want to be twats. 1.00
00:21:49.000 And now you can sort of at least, without censoring, you sort of just push that to the bottom.
00:21:54.000 And it's not perfect.
00:21:55.000 I will argue, and this is all to Steve's credit.
00:21:58.000 Yeah, I mean, there is no perfect system.
00:22:00.000 We constantly fight against ring voting, all that stuff.
00:22:03.000 But Steve built a really smart system with a really smart hotness algorithm.
00:22:07.000 And by the way, we're open source.
00:22:08.000 So if you want that, go take it.
00:22:09.000 It's there.
00:22:10.000 And I think it is, for what it is, it's one of the best on the web.
00:22:14.000 And I think that's why our content is so good.
00:22:16.000 It used to be, right?
00:22:17.000 We started with just people linking stuff out.
00:22:19.000 The first link on Reddit, fun fact...
00:22:21.000 Was a submission I made to the Downing Street memo.
00:22:23.000 Remember that?
00:22:24.000 It was showing this leaked memo during the run-up to the Iraq War, the English government kind of saying like, hey, we're going to drum up some support here to support America going into this war.
00:22:34.000 And it was my first submission.
00:22:35.000 And it was a link to another page.
00:22:36.000 Was that the proposed false flag event?
00:22:40.000 Yes.
00:22:41.000 Well, the notion being...
00:22:42.000 We can pull this thing up.
00:22:43.000 The notion being...
00:22:44.000 What's it called again?
00:22:45.000 Downing Street Memo.
00:22:47.000 And so this was leaked out as basically an indication that the British government really wanted to help drum up support for the war.
00:22:55.000 I don't know how explicit it was.
00:22:57.000 I don't recall if it was an explicit...
00:22:59.000 I guess they wouldn't call it a false flag thing in the memo, but we're going to do a stunt.
00:23:03.000 Yeah, what if they have like code words?
00:23:06.000 And then the big bad wolf says...
00:23:10.000 But this was the first submission to Reddit, and it wasn't that new at the time.
00:23:14.000 But I was just thinking, like, hey, if this thing actually worked, like, what would we want Reddit to be a place to, like, find and have people link to?
00:23:22.000 And this seemed like the perfect thing, right?
00:23:23.000 The internet enabled some person to put this image of a leaked document online and shared the world, right?
00:23:29.000 Massive printing press.
00:23:30.000 But what's crazy is we thought that's how it was going to always be.
00:23:34.000 Maybe like three years in, some user, because users are fucking clever, linked to a comments page.
00:23:41.000 Like they knew when they hit submit what the link would be, like the number, the random number, well not quite random, the sequential number we would generate.
00:23:48.000 And so they linked to it.
00:23:49.000 What they effectively did was create a self post, which is now a feature in the site.
00:23:52.000 But basically Reddit only used to let people link out to other sites.
00:23:55.000 One user hacked it and learned you could just link to itself and create this amazing comment thread.
00:24:01.000 So you wouldn't, you know, when you click on it, when you do an AMA, right?
00:24:03.000 You're not creating something that links somewhere else.
00:24:06.000 You're creating something that just creates a Reddit comment page.
00:24:09.000 And what that user did by hacking the site was show that there was a tremendous value in just saying, hey, people, have a discussion about whatever it is.
00:24:18.000 And today, I believe it's a little less than half of our content is actually linking to Reddit. 0.99
00:24:24.000 So it's actually an AMA, or it's an Ask Historians post, or it's just people talking about shit.
00:24:29.000 It's not even linking to other content on the internet. 0.91
00:24:31.000 And we never could have seen that coming.
00:24:34.000 That's awesome.
00:24:35.000 And it was just the user being creative, basically hacking our site.
00:24:39.000 That word, we need to take back.
00:24:41.000 Right.
00:24:42.000 Take back hack.
00:24:43.000 Make it a positive thing.
00:24:44.000 Yeah, you can life hack.
00:24:46.000 And you see this, right?
00:24:46.000 You can life hack.
00:24:47.000 You can body hack.
00:24:48.000 You can basically understand a system so well that you can find an optimal way to use it to your advantage.
00:24:54.000 That's it.
00:24:55.000 That's hacking.
00:24:55.000 It's not the Angelina Jolie bagging on a keyboard hoodie and doing evil.
00:25:01.000 It can be, but it's a much more innocuous word.
00:25:04.000 Yeah, it seems to have weird...
00:25:07.000 It's got a combination of meanings.
00:25:09.000 It's like some people use it in a negative way, but some people use it in a positive way. 0.95
00:25:13.000 Like, dude, I fucking hacked the system. 0.93
00:25:16.000 Someone's saying I hacked the system. 0.99
00:25:18.000 That's in a positive way.
00:25:21.000 But, oh, these hackers broke into this website and put dicks in everybody's picture.
00:25:26.000 That's how we look at it.
00:25:28.000 We also have this weird...
00:25:40.000 That's an interesting point.
00:25:41.000 There's always been a spirit of pranking.
00:25:48.000 In the hacker community.
00:25:49.000 I'm talking OG hackers, like MIT, building the internet early, like Steve Wozniak being an example.
00:25:54.000 And I think what's cool is there's that childlike wonder. 0.93
00:25:58.000 I think a lot of that shit usually gets beaten out of us as we get older, especially in a lot of traditional industries and whatnot. 0.89
00:26:04.000 And so I'd like to believe that that can even be an excuse for people to think about stuff a little differently and think about stuff a little more like, take things a lot seriously. 0.93
00:26:15.000 As part of that broader cultural understanding.
00:26:17.000 Yeah.
00:26:18.000 No, it's cool that there's a prankster type thing rather than an evil, vicious, mean type thing.
00:26:23.000 You know, like when they hack someone and they put a smiley face on their front page.
00:26:27.000 That's kind of funny.
00:26:28.000 I mean, it's kind of funny.
00:26:30.000 Well, now we know that someone can hack into your page.
00:26:33.000 I mean, in a way, it's probably good that you know that that's possible.
00:26:37.000 Yeah.
00:26:37.000 I mean, I don't encourage people to just go hack into anybody's website.
00:26:40.000 Yeah.
00:26:40.000 Because it fucks up that person's day.
00:26:42.000 But all in all, overall, you should be lucky that someone's doing that.
00:26:47.000 And that if they're doing it, hopefully they're not stealing your credit card information and doing it maliciously.
00:26:52.000 There's a whole...
00:26:53.000 I mean, we can...
00:26:54.000 I can dig into this.
00:26:55.000 There's the...
00:26:56.000 So there's the white... 0.66
00:26:56.000 So like the white hat hacker is the quintessential like, hey, I found out there's a problem with your website. 0.66
00:27:01.000 I'm not going to exploit it.
00:27:03.000 I'm just telling you.
00:27:04.000 So you need to fix it.
00:27:05.000 Or hire me and fix it.
00:27:06.000 But usually just like...
00:27:07.000 And we've had white hat hackers...
00:27:10.000 Periodically emailing us with exploits on Reddit that have done us a huge service because they told us about this thing.
00:27:16.000 I mean, you can't possibly know every...
00:27:19.000 No, you can't.
00:27:20.000 Yeah, it's interesting, man.
00:27:23.000 The amount of information that's available now, the world is so wired that it's like we're standing in this crazy river of ideas that are just constantly flying by us. 0.68
00:27:37.000 And a few people are looking around, poking their head up out of the water and just looking at each other going, holy shit. 0.97
00:27:43.000 Yeah.
00:27:44.000 And the internet is where it all sort of pools together.
00:27:48.000 I mean, that's the channel for it all, and that's where it all pools together in places like Reddit or places like Twitter.
00:27:54.000 You think about how much you know now, how many things you've been exposed to now, how many strange bits of information, all the...
00:28:01.000 Chaos that was caused by WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden and all this stuff.
00:28:06.000 Where's all this coming from?
00:28:07.000 Well, it's all on the internet.
00:28:09.000 The internet is just boom, boom.
00:28:11.000 It's like these shots are being fired and these holes are being exploded into the system.
00:28:16.000 And then, you know, there's a bunch of scrambling to try to put scaffolding up where the hole was and boom! 0.99
00:28:22.000 Another hole gets blown out of the fucking society standards. 0.99
00:28:26.000 It is. 1.00
00:28:27.000 It's weird.
00:28:27.000 It is probably a really scary time to be an incumbent.
00:28:31.000 Oh yeah.
00:28:32.000 But it's a great time to be an upstart.
00:28:34.000 It's a great time to be someone who is trying to find a way to get their ideas to the world because there's never been a better time.
00:28:40.000 Yeah, there's never been a better time to be an honest politician.
00:28:43.000 It's a good move.
00:28:45.000 And that's just it, right?
00:28:46.000 That brings us...
00:28:47.000 God, I hope we get there because we need to.
00:28:50.000 I'm a big fan of the States.
00:28:52.000 I think we can evolve.
00:28:53.000 I really do.
00:28:54.000 It's just going to take a lot. 1.00
00:28:55.000 It's just going to take a lot of these old fucks getting out of office. 1.00
00:28:57.000 These people that have been doing it in a sneaky, dirty, underhanded way since the jump. 1.00
00:29:03.000 I mean, there's fucking people in office that were alive when Kennedy was assassinated. 0.99
00:29:08.000 And they were in government. 1.00
00:29:09.000 And they're still involved.
00:29:11.000 I don't think it was supposed to be a career.
00:29:13.000 Pretty sure the Founding Fathers didn't want it to be a career gig.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, it was the exact opposite of that.
00:29:18.000 It was a service.
00:29:19.000 That's one of the reasons why they wanted to put term limits. 0.97
00:29:21.000 They wanted to make sure they...
00:29:26.000 We're good to go.
00:29:39.000 Arlen Specter type dudes who was also involved in the single bullet theory.
00:29:44.000 He was one of those long term...
00:29:46.000 Yeah.
00:29:47.000 Really?
00:29:47.000 Yeah.
00:29:48.000 He was the guy who came up with the idea.
00:29:50.000 He was the...
00:29:51.000 That's like when people say the single bullet theory, you know, you're looking at it all wrong. 1.00
00:29:55.000 Arlen Specter, motherfucker. 1.00
00:29:57.000 That guy. 1.00
00:29:58.000 That guy came up with it. 1.00
00:30:00.000 That's how goofy that fucking idea was. 1.00
00:30:03.000 One bullet went through two people and caused all this fucking damage in their body and barely dented the bullet. 1.00
00:30:10.000 The bullet looked beautiful. 0.99
00:30:12.000 Little pieces of bullet in their bodies, nothing missing from the bullet, whatever, whatever.
00:30:16.000 This is a magic bullet.
00:30:17.000 This is a single bullet.
00:30:19.000 This is that Arlen Specter guy.
00:30:21.000 It was his idea.
00:30:22.000 He had to come up with a reason why one bullet had done so much damage.
00:30:25.000 People right now that are anti-Kennedy conspiracy theorists are going nuts right now.
00:30:29.000 Possibly even on Reddit. 1.00
00:30:31.000 Rogan's such a fucking retard with this bullet theory. 1.00
00:30:35.000 But that all came from Arlen Specter. 1.00
00:30:37.000 That all came from that sort of old-school politician, those guys that had just been around and been a part of the system for just too long.
00:30:44.000 I wonder if it's possible to do...
00:30:46.000 I mean, I want to be hopeful enough to think that there is a chance for someone to get into it for the right reasons and then be able to stay in it for the right reasons.
00:30:53.000 There is.
00:30:54.000 And not get...
00:30:55.000 A lot of them probably... 0.99
00:30:56.000 I mean, fuck, guys like Arlen Specter, I'm sure, probably got into it for all the right reasons. 1.00
00:30:59.000 But I think there's certain systems that once you get into, you just look around and you go, oh, fuck. 1.00
00:31:05.000 It's just such a mess, a viper's nest that you're like, what? 0.99
00:31:10.000 When you're a young guy, it's like, did you see the movie Wolf of Wall Street?
00:31:14.000 Of course, yeah.
00:31:15.000 I don't know how much of it was a hustle, you know what I mean?
00:31:19.000 I mean, whenever you have a story and the guy who, it's his life, it's based on a story, it's probably going to make him look a little bit nicer than he was, a little bit more innocent in the beginning of the movie, but it's that system where You see Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:31:32.000 He starts out.
00:31:33.000 He's a family man.
00:31:34.000 He's a nice guy.
00:31:34.000 He drinks water.
00:31:35.000 He doesn't want anything to do with drugs.
00:31:37.000 And he gets co-opted by the Matthew McConaughey character. 0.99
00:31:42.000 And then he becomes a part of this system that's fucked up. 0.98
00:31:46.000 And so he's a victim. 0.99
00:31:48.000 He becomes someone that you can sort of sympathize with.
00:31:53.000 You know, how much of that is real?
00:31:55.000 Yeah.
00:31:56.000 I definitely...
00:31:57.000 I can only imagine...
00:31:59.000 Because you've got to figure...
00:32:01.000 I mean, why someone who gets into...
00:32:02.000 That whole industry...
00:32:03.000 Actually, the whole finance industry just blows my mind.
00:32:05.000 Yeah, it does.
00:32:05.000 Because I really like making things and doing things, and I just can't even wrap my head around getting into work every day and just...
00:32:13.000 Hustling like that.
00:32:14.000 Well, it's a crazy way to live. 1.00
00:32:16.000 Those guys are maniacs. 0.99
00:32:17.000 A guy I used to know that I grew up with, he became a stockbroker and he was a maniac. 1.00
00:32:22.000 He was a maniac. 1.00
00:32:23.000 And all of a sudden he's like, bro, we're fucking selling stocks and shit. 1.00
00:32:27.000 It's great. 1.00
00:32:28.000 It's amazing. 0.99
00:32:28.000 I saw him in a bar wearing a I'm like, what the fuck are you doing with a suit on? 0.99
00:32:33.000 He was an animal, this guy. 1.00
00:32:34.000 And all of a sudden he was a stockbroker. 0.98
00:32:36.000 They're like maniacs, a lot of them. 0.99
00:32:38.000 Like wild, crazy, gambling, risking maniacs. 0.99
00:32:42.000 They need to fix.
00:32:43.000 I think if you had a job in a system like that, and I'm not equating politicians with...
00:32:50.000 With these kind of guys, with stockbrokers. 0.96
00:32:53.000 But I think a system that's equally fucked, the political system is equally fucked as a financial system. 0.97
00:32:59.000 You look at the both of them and you're like, wait, wait, wait, why are you doing it like that? 0.99
00:33:02.000 What is that? 0.99
00:33:02.000 A derivative is, what is the fuck? 0.99
00:33:04.000 Oh, no. 0.99
00:33:05.000 What did you guys make?
00:33:06.000 You're making things up now.
00:33:07.000 What did you make?
00:33:08.000 You have $100 billion.
00:33:09.000 You don't have any money.
00:33:10.000 There's no money here at all.
00:33:11.000 This is crazy. 0.99
00:33:13.000 That system is equally fucked to the political system. 1.00
00:33:16.000 Like, wait, the fucking... 1.00
00:33:18.000 Hold on a second. 1.00
00:33:18.000 The Supreme Court just changed the limits? 1.00
00:33:21.000 They just made it so that you can just unload money on politicians? 0.99
00:33:25.000 Citizens United got a nice little jump site.
00:33:28.000 It's crazy.
00:33:29.000 It's crazy.
00:33:29.000 Yeah, so I think equal system, once you incorporate yourself into it, like a lot of these politicians who probably do go into it with good intentions, I think you find along the way that if you try to buck the system completely, you probably get blackballed.
00:33:44.000 There's probably going to be a lot of blowback against you by your party, by competing parties.
00:33:49.000 You're going to be in a tough situation, you against the world.
00:33:52.000 And that's how they survive.
00:33:54.000 They survive by sort of attacking each other like this, and then propping up these individual candidates that differ only slightly from each other, and all of them supported by the same giant hood of money that comes from corporations.
00:34:08.000 Man.
00:34:08.000 It's crazy.
00:34:09.000 It's a crazy system. 1.00
00:34:11.000 So if you're a young guy and you're a senator from Delaware and you decide that I'm going to make some changes in this world and if you elect me, I'm going to blah, blah, blah and blah, blah, blah and then you get in there and you're like, oh, fuck. 1.00
00:34:24.000 You're making me really optimistic right now, Joe. 0.99
00:34:26.000 And I just got off my house a cards bender, which, you know, amazing. 1.00
00:34:31.000 I think those systems are inherently corrupting.
00:34:33.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:34:33.000 I just think that younger people have to...
00:34:37.000 It almost has to be like transparency involved in your actions is going to reach such a tipping point that there will be no room for corruption.
00:34:45.000 And once that happens...
00:34:47.000 Different story.
00:34:48.000 Yeah.
00:34:48.000 And it's got to be on the way there, right?
00:34:51.000 All the forces certainly seem to be on their way.
00:34:53.000 I mean, it's crazy.
00:34:54.000 We still live in an age where these senators and congresspeople are still doing what they're doing on their Twitter direct messages. 0.99
00:35:02.000 You mean sending dick pics, yo? 0.99
00:35:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:35:04.000 But the funny thing is, there's this kind of like, okay, at a certain point, there'll be mutually assured destruction where the president is going to have photos of herself from a party in high school. 0.99
00:35:15.000 Yeah. 0.96
00:35:15.000 We're going to get to a certain point where everyone's got shit on everyone from all the stuff we did ever. 0.96
00:35:19.000 But that's going to take a little while. 0.93
00:35:20.000 And in the meantime, I mean, I hope that the thing that still makes me hopeful is coming back to the finance side of things.
00:35:29.000 Money is the corrupting influence in Washington.
00:35:31.000 One of the biggest.
00:35:33.000 And right now...
00:35:35.000 There are a few people who can put in a lot of money and have a lot of an effect.
00:35:38.000 What I hope the internet can do, and we've started seeing this happen, is in the same way that it's given a voice to people through social media, we can start using small amounts of money and in aggregate start having a really big impact.
00:35:49.000 We've seen these money bombs before in 08 and in 12, but I feel like the software is going to keep getting better and better with crowdfunding and with these models that are going to really inspire people to want to give to a candidate and know that there's actually going to be accountability to with How that's spent and who they are and whatnot.
00:36:05.000 One of the big ones, one of the really big ones that people think is kind of frivolous, especially people who don't smoke marijuana, is the legalization of it. 0.93
00:36:14.000 The legalization of marijuana in Washington State and Colorado is fucking gigantic. 0.71
00:36:20.000 Those are the impacts that it's had on their economy. 0.97
00:36:23.000 It's been so big that everyone's forced to step back and go, wait a minute, we'll...
00:36:29.000 Okay, alright, so now we know. 0.74
00:36:31.000 Sweaty hands, rubbing on their pants, and a lot of fucking late night meetings, and a lot of guys pacing back and forth, and a lot of people yelling, John, they're going to smoke pot, okay? 0.99
00:36:41.000 They're going to fucking smoke it no matter what. 0.98
00:36:43.000 What are we doing here? 0.99
00:36:44.000 Let's make some money!
00:36:45.000 We can't fix the street!
00:36:47.000 We can't hire new teachers!
00:36:48.000 Well, and that's right, if that money being used on the war against drugs were being used for more productive things, and we did legalize...
00:36:56.000 My goodness.
00:36:56.000 The war against drugs is a crazy idea.
00:37:00.000 It's a crazy term.
00:37:01.000 It's like the war against breathing.
00:37:03.000 You know, we figured out drugs.
00:37:04.000 It's probably made people better in a million different ways.
00:37:07.000 The idea that you've got to war against it.
00:37:09.000 And it's just, you're calling it drugs.
00:37:10.000 You don't make any distinction.
00:37:12.000 The war against negative, lethal drugs that are addictive.
00:37:16.000 You don't even make any distinctions.
00:37:18.000 It's just a war against drugs. 0.99
00:37:19.000 So what, are you going to break into the fucking store and steal all the aspirin at gunpoint? 0.99
00:37:22.000 Like, what, what? 0.99
00:37:23.000 What is this war you're saying? 0.99
00:37:24.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.99
00:37:26.000 It's preposterous. 0.76
00:37:26.000 And I hope, you know, I know DC's, I don't know where DC's at right now. 0.76
00:37:30.000 I was on the table.
00:37:31.000 Maryland just decriminalized.
00:37:32.000 Yeah, that's awesome.
00:37:33.000 Just a step in the right direction.
00:37:34.000 And I mean, what happens if we get legal weed in the District of Columbia?
00:37:38.000 Now, I know they're not technically a state because that's... 0.97
00:37:40.000 Ridiculous. 0.98
00:37:40.000 It'll happen. 0.98
00:37:41.000 It has to.
00:37:42.000 It's insane.
00:37:44.000 I see the discrepancy between the federal law and the state laws, but if you're not having feds knocking down doors in the District of Columbia, I think maybe everyone's in agreement here.
00:37:54.000 And you see so many ex-law enforcement, so many ex-DEA people come out in support of legalization because they realize if the goal...
00:38:02.000 If we have a common goal here to actually make our streets safer and actually curb the criminal element that comes in with this, legalization is the way to do it and make a lot of money and help a lot of people live better lives because they don't have to be treated like criminals for a drug like marijuana.
00:38:18.000 I've never seen a single person that I didn't think was just trolling say that they think that marijuana should stay illegal.
00:38:25.000 Anyone worth having a conversation with? 1.00
00:38:28.000 When I hear Ann Coulter say it, I'm like, this bitch is trolling. 1.00
00:38:31.000 She's trolling. 1.00
00:38:32.000 She's too good at it. 1.00
00:38:33.000 She's got a half a fucking smile while she's doing it. 1.00
00:38:36.000 Did you just meme it? 1.00
00:38:37.000 I did.
00:38:40.000 That's another cool thing that came out of places like Reddit, is memes.
00:38:44.000 Reddit message boards, these memes.
00:38:47.000 I mean, there are, obviously, 4chan is still a hub for a lot of that meme creation.
00:38:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:38:52.000 I feel like at this point...
00:38:54.000 That's the hub, right?
00:38:54.000 Yes.
00:38:55.000 That's where it all began, isn't it?
00:38:56.000 Well, it is.
00:38:57.000 I mean, it is one of the OR message boards.
00:38:59.000 That's a classic 4chan, that picture.
00:39:02.000 Yeah.
00:39:02.000 That's a classic 4chan picture.
00:39:04.000 It, uh, and it's, it's, it's just, it's so interesting because now there are enough, basically, right, 10 years ago, the culture of people who were spending a lot of time communicating on forums online was pretty small.
00:39:16.000 Right.
00:39:16.000 And now, right, everyone's taking their selfies.
00:39:18.000 Like, it has reached a point where, uh, it's nearly a, it's so, so ubiquitous or so close to it that, yeah, these, these memes, these funny, interesting image, whatever they are, can catch hold and Literally millions of people can see it.
00:39:31.000 I mean, it gets a little weird when you see, like, Rick Astley in the Thanksgiving Day Parade a couple years ago, Rickrolling everyone.
00:39:37.000 Yes, that was weird.
00:39:37.000 That's, like, a little weird.
00:39:39.000 A little art-influencing life in a strange way.
00:39:42.000 Yeah.
00:39:43.000 Yeah, that was weird, man.
00:39:45.000 The Rickroll.
00:39:46.000 It's a strange thing when something just catches on like a virus, like a real disease, and spreads across, I mean, or an organism, almost like a thing with a lifespan.
00:39:57.000 We, like, I mean, as humans...
00:39:59.000 We are, and I'm not saying plagiarism here, but, like, we are sort of intrinsically copy machines.
00:40:05.000 And that, like, early man, right, sees someone else hunting a little better than him, and he's like, oh, I could use that as a weapon?
00:40:11.000 Dude, this guy, this guy over here, let's all make weapons, right?
00:40:14.000 And we are really good at seeing what someone is doing, and that's how we learn.
00:40:17.000 Yes. 0.98
00:40:18.000 And what's so wild is, you know, because of that hyper-connectivity, because of how fast these ideas now spread, right, these memes, like, humans are sort of naturally really good at this, but now we can spread this shit faster than ever before, right? 0.82
00:40:29.000 Within hours, within minutes, millions of people can see an interesting photo of a cat or an interesting video or what have you. 0.74
00:40:36.000 You know, Alexis, you can't do that on your own.
00:40:38.000 You didn't get there on your own.
00:40:40.000 Yeah, but I think what Obama was trying to say when he was trying to say that you didn't build that.
00:40:45.000 You didn't make that.
00:40:45.000 He was, you know, about the infrastructure that's required, you know, to build your own small business.
00:40:51.000 Remember that speech that he was so criticized from?
00:40:54.000 That quote was definitely taken out of context. 1.00
00:40:56.000 But it was a shit quote. 0.99
00:40:58.000 The reality is he said it very poorly. 1.00
00:41:01.000 Like, but...
00:41:01.000 It's essentially, what we're saying is we all needed someone before us to come up with all these ideas that we all piggyback on.
00:41:08.000 Shoulders of Giants, man.
00:41:09.000 Everybody.
00:41:10.000 Look, dude, I mean, I have been incredibly fortunate, right?
00:41:13.000 I sold my company when I was 23 years old, all right?
00:41:15.000 That was crazy, crazy.
00:41:17.000 Dude, how much coke did you do?
00:41:19.000 Don't lie.
00:41:19.000 I have actually never done coke.
00:41:21.000 Good for you.
00:41:21.000 Thank God.
00:41:22.000 If you were hanging out with that guy, you would have done coke.
00:41:25.000 You would have had too much coke, and I'd ask you that question, and you'd go...
00:41:30.000 Bad things, man.
00:41:31.000 You'd have weird eyebrow hairs you can't explain.
00:41:33.000 Like, when did that start growing?
00:41:34.000 I hate coke.
00:41:37.000 I feel like caffeine is enough of a stimulant for me that I'm more interested in the stuff that calms me down, chills me out.
00:41:45.000 Yes, chills me out.
00:41:46.000 And that's what I think would change.
00:41:47.000 Like turkey.
00:41:48.000 That's one of the things that is changing right now in America because of the fact that the spread of this stuff...
00:41:55.000 The spread that's starting out, first of all, information-wise, when people found out the real truth about the LD50 rates, you can't die from it.
00:42:03.000 It's not even possible.
00:42:04.000 And that malarkey document or film, Reefer Madness.
00:42:07.000 Oh, it's great. 0.96
00:42:08.000 It's ridiculous. 0.91
00:42:08.000 It's great to watch now. 0.91
00:42:09.000 Yeah, fascinating film.
00:42:10.000 This is straight propaganda.
00:42:14.000 Yeah, that's a fascinating movie.
00:42:16.000 It's fun to watch today.
00:42:17.000 But there's a lot of people that still believe that it does something negative, that it slows you down, that it removes motivation.
00:42:24.000 I think people have to realize the motivation for motivation in the first place.
00:42:31.000 Why is that so inspiring to you?
00:42:34.000 What is motivation? 0.99
00:42:36.000 You want someone to get off their ass and get a job and get to work? 0.99
00:42:38.000 Well, they just have to be excited about something. 0.99
00:42:41.000 Most likely, they're more excited about sitting on the couch than whatever it is they're being exposed to in their life.
00:42:46.000 It doesn't mean that marijuana removes motivation. 0.98
00:42:48.000 It means that if you're one of those lazy bitches that doesn't think outside the box, and you're stuck in a spot, and you're discontent, and you like to get high and sit on the couch, you're probably going to be like that for the rest of your life. 1.00
00:42:59.000 But that's okay, too. 1.00
00:43:01.000 It's not harming anyone.
00:43:03.000 Exactly.
00:43:03.000 Those are the same people that would drink cough syrup.
00:43:05.000 They would drink fucking cough syrup until their liver failed. 1.00
00:43:09.000 Syrup. 1.00
00:43:10.000 Drinking that syrup.
00:43:11.000 I mean, for real, they're the same people.
00:43:14.000 And the idea that all the benefits reported by people like, I'm not saying you smoke a little weed, but I'm saying you probably smoke a little weed, or me, or anyone else who does, that's all discounted.
00:43:25.000 Yeah, and not to mention, I mean, seriously, from a medical standpoint, I mean, you can't fight.
00:43:30.000 Like, every day there's another story from another person who's using it to get through chemo or using it to get their app.
00:43:36.000 Like, when you see that many people's lives being so positively affected by a thing that's naturally occurring, like, really?
00:43:43.000 It's a truly unbelievable story.
00:43:46.000 The fact that it's still around in 2014 is really a truly unbelievable story.
00:43:51.000 Because if you looked at it logically and factually and said, could you imagine a culture in which information is sent instantaneously all over the globe to which the answer to virtually any question a person can come up with?
00:44:05.000 Can be answered on your phone in a matter of seconds.
00:44:08.000 That you truly have the information, the current information of the world at your disposal.
00:44:15.000 Could you imagine that it would be one of the most beneficial plants that grows easily, contains essential amino acids, it's very high in protein, It can make you think about things differently.
00:44:24.000 It can make food taste better.
00:44:26.000 It makes sex feel better.
00:44:27.000 It makes you sleep easier.
00:44:29.000 It removes anxiety.
00:44:31.000 It makes you nicer and kinder.
00:44:33.000 This sounds amazing.
00:44:34.000 You would go, yeah, but it's illegal.
00:44:36.000 And it's a Schedule 1 drug.
00:44:37.000 And the record screeches.
00:44:38.000 And you're like, wait, but...
00:44:40.000 Wait, what?
00:44:40.000 Hold on, what?
00:44:40.000 This was a major...
00:44:42.000 Hemp was a major crop for the 13 colonies.
00:44:45.000 Yeah.
00:44:46.000 Like...
00:44:47.000 Well, when they figured out the cotton gin, that's when things got a little weirder.
00:44:50.000 Because they used to make clothes with hemp, but before the 1930s, they came up with a thing called a decorticator.
00:44:57.000 And the decorticator was, for the first time, they could use this giant machine to break down the hemp fiber.
00:45:03.000 Because before, they used slavery.
00:45:05.000 And then when slavery was abolished, then the cotton gin was invented all along sort of in the same time frame.
00:45:11.000 The shift went to cotton and away from hemp.
00:45:15.000 It's really kind of fascinating.
00:45:16.000 This is like Wikipedia, man.
00:45:17.000 I know a few things that I've seen in documentaries.
00:45:21.000 But it's a fascinating, fascinating story because what shut down marijuana is the crop hemp.
00:45:29.000 That's what shut it down.
00:45:30.000 And that's the main reason why today, when I was talking about Onnit, we can't grow our own hemp.
00:45:34.000 We would love to.
00:45:35.000 We would love to pay a farmer to grow hemp for our protein powder. 0.91
00:45:39.000 That way we could monitor the soil, we could make sure everything's organic, we could do all the right steps.
00:45:44.000 But we can't do it.
00:45:45.000 We literally can't do it in America.
00:45:46.000 Man.
00:45:47.000 Land of the free.
00:45:48.000 But it's totally non-psychoactive. 1.00
00:45:50.000 That's what's so stupid. 0.99
00:45:52.000 It doesn't... 1.00
00:45:53.000 What you're getting when you're getting a hemp bag or you're getting hemp protein powder, there's zero THC in there.
00:45:59.000 It's not in there.
00:46:00.000 You cannot smoke.
00:46:00.000 Kids, you cannot smoke your hemp bag.
00:46:03.000 Don't try it.
00:46:03.000 Don't do it.
00:46:04.000 But the idea that that somehow or another can be illegal because it's related...
00:46:08.000 Related to the plant.
00:46:09.000 That's crazy.
00:46:10.000 I mean, that's like a poppy plant.
00:46:12.000 You could have a poppy plant.
00:46:13.000 You could eat a poppy seed bagel.
00:46:15.000 Yeah.
00:46:16.000 We're bananas.
00:46:17.000 It's crazy.
00:46:17.000 And then, you know what it is though?
00:46:18.000 The real victims of ending the drug war would be all those prisons that would no longer be full of young black men. 0.99
00:46:26.000 Aha! 0.94
00:46:26.000 You say this, but what if your business is running prisons? 0.94
00:46:29.000 Right.
00:46:30.000 What if your business is prison guards?
00:46:32.000 I mean, that's another thing we found out about lobbies.
00:46:35.000 Someone think of the prison industrial complex.
00:46:38.000 Prison guards lobby against drug legalizations.
00:46:41.000 They do it because they want to stay in office.
00:46:43.000 They want to keep their jobs.
00:46:45.000 And how many lives have to be ruined in the process? 0.99
00:46:46.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.99
00:46:48.000 It's a vampire system. 1.00
00:46:49.000 It's a horrible vampire system.
00:46:51.000 And it's a system that's brought out of...
00:46:54.000 It's based on these reverberations or these vibrations from the past.
00:46:59.000 It's all like this scramble when people were retarded. 1.00
00:47:02.000 When they came over on boats and this is just how they did things.
00:47:05.000 Get him in the clink! 0.85
00:47:06.000 Throw him in the jail! 1.00
00:47:07.000 You fucking scoundrel! 1.00
00:47:09.000 You were smoking marijuana! 1.00
00:47:10.000 Or whatever the rule that you broke is. 1.00
00:47:12.000 That they realize that they can do it so they do do it and they throw you in some fucking cage. 0.96
00:47:17.000 In 2014, the fact that that's still going on and that people are actually profiting from it, these are more things that the internet has a huge fucking problem with because the internet has guys like you. 0.97
00:47:27.000 There's young fellas that are very smart and unconventional and seeing the system and being like, you know what, I don't buy it. 1.00
00:47:33.000 I think there's some shit that people I knew growing up that were adults, I knew they were fucking idiots, and I knew they made bad choices. 1.00
00:47:39.000 And now I'm looking at the repercussions of this everywhere. 1.00
00:47:43.000 I'm looking at it, and I'm saying, no, this is dumb. 0.98
00:47:46.000 So this is one of the things, especially talking to college students, that I love bringing up, which is that, and I'm the first to admit it, like, I have no fucking clue what I'm doing. 0.86
00:47:55.000 99% of the time, especially when I got started, I still don't now, and I've come to realize, like, And I've been lucky enough to meet some pretty successful, impressive people.
00:48:05.000 But you dig onto the surface, we're all just hacking it.
00:48:08.000 We're all just expertise, experience.
00:48:09.000 Those things all help.
00:48:10.000 But every one of us is a fallible human.
00:48:13.000 All the conventions and rules and status quo we know were created by other fallible humans.
00:48:18.000 And there's no reason not to look at that and go, huh, does it have to be that way?
00:48:22.000 Or why is it that way?
00:48:23.000 And if the reason why is, well, that's the way it is, well, that's a terrible reason.
00:48:28.000 And when you see the world as being that hackable, so to speak, you start to realize, all right, let's actually question stuff.
00:48:36.000 I remember I was a freshman at UVA when 9-11 happened.
00:48:40.000 For this generation of millennials coming up, nearly all of us, one of our first really vivid memories of the world was 9-11, this awful tragedy.
00:48:48.000 And then we get into these two wars, and then think of all the authority figures we've had in our life since that moment.
00:48:54.000 They've all at one point or another either misled us, This sort of deceived us.
00:48:58.000 You've got the financial crisis.
00:48:59.000 You've got the housing bubble.
00:49:01.000 All these conventions.
00:49:02.000 Oh, trust us.
00:49:03.000 We know what we're doing.
00:49:03.000 This is the thing.
00:49:04.000 The American dream is buying a home.
00:49:05.000 Go to college.
00:49:06.000 Take on that student loan debt.
00:49:07.000 Don't worry.
00:49:08.000 There's a job waiting for you.
00:49:09.000 Every single one of these conventions from all these people in power have not held up.
00:49:13.000 And so I think in particular, millennials look at that very skeptically because we're like, all right, you know what?
00:49:18.000 So the conventional stuff didn't work out for anything.
00:49:20.000 We have no choice but to realize, you know what, we're all just hacking it.
00:49:23.000 So let's dive into the passion.
00:49:26.000 Let's figure out a better way to do something, not settle for the way it's always been.
00:49:30.000 I think you're completely right.
00:49:31.000 And I think, first of all, I'm slightly annoyed by this new statement that I'm first to absorb.
00:49:37.000 Millennials.
00:49:37.000 I know.
00:49:37.000 It's a terrible phrase.
00:49:38.000 I'm sorry.
00:49:39.000 I'm sorry.
00:49:40.000 I'm not buying it.
00:49:40.000 We can rebrand this.
00:49:41.000 I think we should.
00:49:42.000 I really do.
00:49:43.000 Because I think there's a divisiveness or there's a separation that comes when you start labeling people by what era they were born in.
00:49:52.000 Fair enough.
00:49:52.000 It's a state of mind more than anything else.
00:49:54.000 Yeah, I think so, but I think it's horseshit. 1.00
00:49:56.000 Generation X, Generation Y, shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:49:59.000 It's just humans. 1.00
00:50:00.000 This idea of putting things in a label generalization.
00:50:03.000 The human race is evolving.
00:50:05.000 Watch Father Knows Best and then watch Game of Thrones, okay? 1.00
00:50:09.000 Shit's different now. 0.99
00:50:11.000 We don't have to come up with names for the generations. 0.99
00:50:14.000 And your generation, why? 0.97
00:50:16.000 There was fucking Jamie from the Laugh Factory tried to tell my friend Todd Parker. 0.98
00:50:21.000 Todd Parker is a stand-up comic that I started out with. 0.96
00:50:24.000 And Jamie was like, buddy, you have to be a Generation X guy.
00:50:27.000 This is what you do.
00:50:28.000 You go on stage and everything, my generation, Generation X think, that's going to be your hook.
00:50:34.000 And I remember him trying to explain it to Jamie.
00:50:36.000 And I'm in the background going, don't.
00:50:38.000 No! 0.99
00:50:39.000 Don't fucking listen to him. 0.99
00:50:41.000 Did you hear what he told Tony to do? 1.00
00:50:43.000 What did he tell Tony?
00:50:44.000 Buddy, you must always wear a cowboy hat.
00:50:49.000 I was just thinking he would just look like Woody from Toy Story.
00:50:52.000 Because he needed a hat?
00:50:53.000 No, he was shopping for hats.
00:50:55.000 Jamie, the guy who owns...
00:50:57.000 Jamie Masada, the guy who owns The Laugh Factory, is a sweetheart of a guy.
00:51:00.000 He is a very nice guy.
00:51:02.000 I love him to death. 0.97
00:51:03.000 But he's crazy.
00:51:04.000 And he gives advice to comedians. 0.96
00:51:05.000 And he was a comedian at one point in time.
00:51:07.000 He might have been...
00:51:10.000 The second or third worst comedian that's ever walked the face of the earth.
00:51:13.000 But as a club owner, he's like one of the best.
00:51:15.000 He's a sweetheart of a guy.
00:51:17.000 He wasn't the worst comedian.
00:51:19.000 He just barely speaks English and he's not funny.
00:51:22.000 But he's a sweetheart of a guy.
00:51:23.000 But his ideas are terrible.
00:51:25.000 And he'll tell young comedians, he'll pull you aside, buddy, listen, this is your move.
00:51:30.000 From here on out, you go on stage, you wear superhero costume.
00:51:35.000 You don't look like superhero, that's the joke.
00:51:39.000 I want to know, is there a comic somewhere who actually took his advice?
00:51:42.000 Oh yeah, there's been a bunch.
00:51:43.000 There's been a bunch. 0.98
00:51:44.000 I don't want to name any names because it's sort of like someone who got tricked by a guy who said he was in the military so they had sex with him and then it turns out he was just a liar. 0.94
00:51:52.000 And the girl feels bad.
00:51:53.000 I don't want to shame anybody.
00:51:54.000 So I won't say any names.
00:51:55.000 But yeah, there were some comedians, for sure.
00:51:57.000 There was definitely some comedians that listened and changed their persona and came up with a plan and it never worked.
00:52:05.000 Because once Jeremy's got you dancing, first of all, now I control the dance, buddy.
00:52:11.000 Buddy, you're dancing bad.
00:52:13.000 It's not my dance moves are good.
00:52:15.000 Mitzi did it also with Carlos Mincini. 0.99
00:52:17.000 Fuck yeah! 0.99
00:52:18.000 Mitzi made, well, I mean, I don't know. 1.00
00:52:21.000 I don't know exactly.
00:52:22.000 I mean, allegedly it was Mitzi's idea, but obviously we're not pals with that dude, so we probably shouldn't tell his life story without checking in with him.
00:52:29.000 He probably doesn't even know at this point.
00:52:32.000 Yeah, well, I don't hate the guy.
00:52:34.000 I just hate what he's doing.
00:52:36.000 Yeah.
00:52:54.000 That is important for the entire Denver comedy scene.
00:52:58.000 It's just one lady, Wendy. 0.98
00:52:59.000 Did Mitzi ever give you any advice that you either took or didn't take? 1.00
00:53:02.000 You're too dirty. 1.00
00:53:04.000 You're too dirty. 1.00
00:53:06.000 You clearly took that advice. 1.00
00:53:07.000 You're too sick. 1.00
00:53:08.000 What you said was sick. 0.98
00:53:09.000 It wasn't funny.
00:53:11.000 It was sick.
00:53:12.000 I used to have this bit about Anna Nicole Smith's husband.
00:53:15.000 This is the one she always hated.
00:53:17.000 Unfortunately, there's no good versions of it online.
00:53:19.000 I think it's an audio version.
00:53:20.000 Let's record it now.
00:53:21.000 But it was all about him making her do ugly things before he died.
00:53:28.000 Like that she was earning this money.
00:53:30.000 And everybody's like, oh, she's stealing his money.
00:53:31.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?
00:53:32.000 The guy made a billion dollars from scratch. 0.99
00:53:35.000 Don't you think he knows what the fuck is going on? 0.99
00:53:37.000 He was onto it. 1.00
00:53:38.000 Yeah, so the joke was that he was going out in style with this big fat Kentucky Fried Hooker, and it was just this horrendous old man, young buxom blonde bit that just was so disgusting. 1.00
00:53:53.000 And Mitzi would go, it's disgusting, it's not funny. 0.94
00:53:57.000 I'm like, but why is everybody laughing? 1.00
00:53:58.000 They're fucking idiots. 1.00
00:54:01.000 You clearly don't have to... 1.00
00:54:02.000 I mean, this is like, hey, it's nice advice, but if people are still laughing and buying drinks, she's going to keep having you.
00:54:07.000 Well, she loved me.
00:54:08.000 She's nice.
00:54:09.000 She's a sweet woman.
00:54:10.000 She just didn't like... 0.94
00:54:11.000 It wasn't her style of comedy.
00:54:13.000 I get it.
00:54:15.000 I get that.
00:54:16.000 And there's some things that I did that she really loved, and she wanted me to keep doing those.
00:54:19.000 And I love those, too. 0.86
00:54:20.000 But there's shit that I'll do that I... And I always have, because I would laugh at it. 0.97
00:54:25.000 And my friends who are comics would laugh at it. 0.97
00:54:28.000 Like, I... If I know that Stanhope is in the room, I'll probably ramp something up.
00:54:33.000 Just because I know he's there. 0.99
00:54:34.000 I'll add some extra fucked up shit to it just to get him to laugh. 0.99
00:54:39.000 Just something totally inappropriate that I don't even mean. 0.99
00:54:43.000 But I'll do it just for Stanhope if he's in the room.
00:54:45.000 We do that to each other.
00:54:47.000 Comics do that. 0.93
00:54:48.000 So when a comic is writing a bit that's really fucked up, half of it is just to make your own jaded sense of comedy. 0.94
00:54:55.000 Jolt it. 0.95
00:54:56.000 Give it a little prod.
00:54:57.000 Yeah, just...
00:54:58.000 See?
00:54:59.000 Oh, man.
00:55:00.000 That is the bar that I... Because I do a fair bit of public speaking, right? 0.99
00:55:05.000 But I don't have to fucking tell jokes. 0.96
00:55:07.000 That stand-up bar has to be... 0.98
00:55:10.000 And I'm not just blowing smoke.
00:55:11.000 It's got to be the hardest public speaking gig to have to do.
00:55:15.000 It is and it isn't.
00:55:16.000 But to do it night after night, too?
00:55:17.000 Well, that actually makes it easier.
00:55:19.000 Joey Diaz says it best.
00:55:21.000 Joey Diaz, he goes, this is the easiest, hardest thing you can do.
00:55:25.000 Okay.
00:55:25.000 It's the easiest, hardest thing you can do.
00:55:27.000 Because if you do it right, it's easy. 0.98
00:55:29.000 If you got it down, and not in the beginning, god damn, it takes a long fucking time to not be on shaky legs every time you go on stage. 0.89
00:55:36.000 But, once you get good enough to where you kind of like, you understand yourself better, so he's not as insecure, you're not as concerned about acceptance, and you can kind of relax, and you're more comfortable in your own skin, and then you kind of understand the roots of humor better as you get older, and then you become a comic. 0.96
00:55:51.000 So then, boom, you're a comic.
00:55:53.000 And I think from there, it's all just about maintaining.
00:55:55.000 It's about continuing to do it.
00:55:57.000 And once you do that, it's fairly easy.
00:55:59.000 It's like once you're doing that.
00:56:00.000 But it's like once the train is moving downhill, it's going well. 1.00
00:56:03.000 But if the train stops and you've got to get it uphill, oh, you're fucked. 0.87
00:56:07.000 That's why guys, when they take time off, something weird happens to comedians when they take like three years off of comedy and then get back in because their prospects are slim. 0.99
00:56:17.000 Those are some dark sets that you watch.
00:56:19.000 You can see the bottom of a man's soul. 1.00
00:56:22.000 You can see some shit, man. 1.00
00:56:24.000 Because they forgot how to do comedy. 1.00
00:56:26.000 I mean, they just fucking forgot how to do comedy. 0.98
00:56:29.000 That happens after a couple weeks, though, sometimes. 0.99
00:56:31.000 I took two weeks off and I went back on stage. 0.99
00:56:33.000 I was like, oh shit, why do I feel nervous right now? 0.81
00:56:35.000 Well, it's also your intention. 0.97
00:56:37.000 I mean, you don't really prepare that much.
00:56:39.000 You don't listen to recordings.
00:56:41.000 Oh, I do so.
00:56:42.000 Do you?
00:56:42.000 I tape every single one of my...
00:56:44.000 But do you listen to them?
00:56:44.000 Oh yeah.
00:56:45.000 You do?
00:56:45.000 Usually it's on the way to the next gig.
00:56:47.000 I'll listen to the...
00:56:48.000 That's a good way too. 0.95
00:56:50.000 But one way that I like is to sit down and listen with a notepad and write down shit that I shouldn't do anymore or write down shit that the front end is clunky and it works over here and I'll just keep doing that. 0.94
00:57:03.000 I'm glad you do that. 0.99
00:57:04.000 The guys who don't do that are really silly. 0.98
00:57:06.000 It's an important point. 0.95
00:57:07.000 I have to do it.
00:57:08.000 And I have to write it all down and have to write it out on the note cards and stuff like that.
00:57:12.000 That's a good move too.
00:57:13.000 As far as memory, that's the best way.
00:57:15.000 Writing things out physically and longhand...
00:57:17.000 Or I write it out on my Galaxy. 1.00
00:57:20.000 I got this fucking Galaxy. 0.99
00:57:22.000 Where is it? 1.00
00:57:23.000 How dare I? Left it out there somewhere.
00:57:25.000 The Galaxy Note 3 is this big ass. 0.98
00:57:28.000 Well, I've got ogre hands, so it's perfect. 0.98
00:57:29.000 I have a Note 3, too.
00:57:32.000 But it is outside.
00:57:33.000 Yeah.
00:57:34.000 But they have that little note stylus thing.
00:57:37.000 We use the stylus?
00:57:38.000 Yeah, I write all my notes longhand. 0.99
00:57:40.000 Damn, old school. 0.98
00:57:41.000 So instead of using it like, instead of having a notepad, but I always still have a notepad anyway, because I still, for whatever reason, I haven't let go of the nipple. 0.97
00:57:49.000 But the notes, like written notes on that are almost just as good.
00:57:54.000 I mean, really, it's very sensitive.
00:57:56.000 I'm a stylus skeptic.
00:57:58.000 Are you really?
00:57:58.000 I am.
00:57:59.000 I've never...
00:58:00.000 Talk to him real quick.
00:58:01.000 I'll grip the phone. 1.00
00:58:01.000 I want to see if you fuck with it, if you like it. 1.00
00:58:03.000 I mean, I've just never... 0.99
00:58:04.000 I have the Note 3. I just have never...
00:58:05.000 I pulled it out, and I was like, meh.
00:58:08.000 I noticed you have the Pebble.
00:58:09.000 Have you tried the Gears or whatever the watch is from Samsung?
00:58:13.000 Don't even get me started.
00:58:14.000 Yes.
00:58:14.000 Oh, really?
00:58:14.000 The thing is, and here's the thing.
00:58:17.000 I had the first Pebble.
00:58:17.000 They're a Y Combinator company.
00:58:19.000 I actually was sitting in the room when we interviewed them.
00:58:21.000 I remember their first prototype, and I was so blown away because I was like, here's some friendly Canadians.
00:58:25.000 I made a cool watch.
00:58:26.000 All right.
00:58:26.000 Talk to my phone.
00:58:27.000 I think it was a BlackBerry back then.
00:58:29.000 And then they launched that campaign, and I was like, this is amazeballs, right?
00:58:33.000 $10 million Kickstarter.
00:58:35.000 I pre-ordered mine.
00:58:35.000 And I got my watch, and I was really impressed.
00:58:38.000 But I was a little, like, I liked it.
00:58:40.000 I didn't love it.
00:58:41.000 I'd be wearing other watches back and forth.
00:58:43.000 Right.
00:58:43.000 Once I got this one, though, seriously, game over every day.
00:58:46.000 Really?
00:58:47.000 The fatal flaw of that Samsung watch, aside from it doesn't play with iOS, the fatal flaw is the battery life.
00:58:53.000 It's got a beautiful full-color screen.
00:58:55.000 It lasts for maybe a day. 0.99
00:58:57.000 And I got enough shit to charge every night. 0.99
00:58:59.000 I don't want to also have to charge my watch every single night. 0.99
00:59:02.000 Or it should have a built-in charging mat or something where you just take it off and throw it on a mat.
00:59:08.000 The new one, the Gear 2, that just is supposedly better.
00:59:11.000 It looks interesting.
00:59:13.000 Obviously, like I said, I'm buddies with the Pebble guys, so take this with a grain of salt.
00:59:17.000 But in all objectivity, I think it's an amazing... 0.97
00:59:19.000 The software, the OS, Android, obviously, they know what the fuck they're doing.
00:59:23.000 The question is going to be the hardware. 0.51
00:59:26.000 I mean, that watch is all just Photoshop right now.
00:59:29.000 If they can make a watch that has a decent battery life that looks that good...
00:59:33.000 Okay, alright, I'm perking up.
00:59:35.000 But until I actually see something with a real battery on it...
00:59:37.000 What about Google Glass?
00:59:40.000 They just announced that Google Glass is going to be available for one day only to anybody that wants it.
00:59:45.000 Of course CNN uses the photo of the most hipster hipster.
00:59:48.000 Yeah, look at his mustache.
00:59:51.000 Sweat this.
00:59:52.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:59:53.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:59:54.000 Yeah, those are all my joke notes. 1.00
00:59:57.000 Damn. 0.99
00:59:58.000 I love this, though. 0.99
00:59:59.000 It's pretty badass, man.
01:00:01.000 But this is really encouraging.
01:00:02.000 There are...
01:00:03.000 I really...
01:00:05.000 I don't know.
01:00:06.000 I want to think...
01:00:07.000 I feel like I'm still just as hungry as I was when I got started.
01:00:09.000 And I'm really motivated and inspired.
01:00:12.000 Because I feel like if you want to stay on the top of your game, this is the stuff you have to do.
01:00:16.000 Because as soon as you start getting soft and start getting cocky or complacent...
01:00:22.000 Write on that.
01:00:23.000 Write something cool and I'll save it and I'll put it up as a Twitter message.
01:00:28.000 It's fascinating because it doesn't lack.
01:00:34.000 There's not anything where I'm doing it where I'm like, this isn't completely picking up what I'm writing.
01:00:39.000 It picks it up exactly.
01:00:41.000 As long as the stylus is touching the screen, it's perfect. 0.58
01:00:46.000 And so for writing notes, and they're small files, so you can have fucking thousands of these things. 0.53
01:00:52.000 It backs up automatically.
01:00:53.000 I get an email when it backs up.
01:00:56.000 Huh, I've literally never taken the stylus out of the phone. 1.00
01:00:58.000 Apple, you can suck it. 1.00
01:00:59.000 You can suck it, Apple. 1.00
01:01:00.000 Until you come up with one of those, you can suck it. 1.00
01:01:03.000 But I remember, Jobs used to be very anti-stylist. 1.00
01:01:06.000 Fuck, Jobs, you can suck it too. 1.00
01:01:07.000 I'll dig you up and then you can suck it. 1.00
01:01:09.000 That's rude. 1.00
01:01:10.000 That was rude.
01:01:11.000 There we go, saved.
01:01:13.000 I didn't mean it.
01:01:14.000 If I meant it, it would be horrible.
01:01:16.000 The new information that's coming out about the two new iPhones that come out this year.
01:01:20.000 You know what I heard? 0.99
01:01:21.000 I heard they're going to make you gay. 0.99
01:01:23.000 No. 0.99
01:01:23.000 No? 0.99
01:01:24.000 No.
01:01:24.000 I heard that.
01:01:25.000 Look at that.
01:01:25.000 Oh.
01:01:26.000 It's for the upvotes.
01:01:27.000 For the upvotes.
01:01:29.000 Upvotes.
01:01:30.000 Okay.
01:01:30.000 And I can send this right now.
01:01:32.000 Just throw it up as an Instagram.
01:01:33.000 Live in the future.
01:01:34.000 That Pebble works with the iPhone and what information is it sent?
01:01:38.000 Does it send text or just kind of basic stuff?
01:01:40.000 You get notifications.
01:01:41.000 You can mess with your iTunes if you want to advance, et cetera, et cetera.
01:01:46.000 And there's a whole fear.
01:01:47.000 I think the long play, and it seems like a smart one, is the App Store model.
01:01:51.000 So Pebble has their App Store, and there are tons of different apps.
01:01:54.000 So I can check in on Foursquare for my watch.
01:01:56.000 I don't have to be that guy who takes out his phone to check in on Foursquare.
01:01:58.000 This is one thing that's whack about Android.
01:02:01.000 When you use the Instagram app, it gives you this weird little...
01:02:05.000 No one's going to be able to see this, but it gives you a weird little window.
01:02:08.000 Oh, they won't let you pull it out all the way. 0.99
01:02:11.000 That's whack as fuck. 1.00
01:02:13.000 Oh, man. 1.00
01:02:13.000 Well, see, that was a great demo, but see. 1.00
01:02:15.000 That's one way that the iPhone has it over this.
01:02:19.000 Well, no, no, no.
01:02:20.000 The square ratio size is just an Instagram thing.
01:02:23.000 You have to use a different program, like, what's it called?
01:02:27.000 Yeah.
01:02:28.000 I've heard.
01:02:29.000 It should be able to just add black space.
01:02:31.000 Yeah.
01:02:32.000 Should be able to shrink it down.
01:02:34.000 A tip on the iPhone is you turn it sideways so it's the wrong, you know, like when you have it pictured the wrong way, and then you take a screenshot of that so it keeps the black bars on the side, and then you add it.
01:02:44.000 Nice pro tip.
01:02:44.000 You've got to do it gangster.
01:02:45.000 That was a pro tip.
01:02:46.000 Pro tip by Brian Wright.
01:02:47.000 If you just crop it so it just says, if you can get four of the upvotes and then the Reddit alien, that'll suffice.
01:02:53.000 Okay, let's see if we can do that.
01:02:56.000 I'm looking out for you.
01:02:59.000 We're going to have to do another one.
01:03:00.000 I have failed you.
01:03:01.000 No, you haven't.
01:03:02.000 No, I feel like I'm letting everyone down here.
01:03:03.000 Just do a smaller one.
01:03:06.000 We'll do one more.
01:03:07.000 But yeah, Google Glass for $1,500.
01:03:09.000 Oh, right.
01:03:09.000 So Google Glass.
01:03:11.000 $1,500 that you're going to throw into the trash a week later. 0.99
01:03:14.000 You're going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with me? 0.98
01:03:16.000 I am very, very skeptical. 0.85
01:03:18.000 I don't think it'll hit mainstream adoption.
01:03:21.000 I think even if they go...
01:03:22.000 I mean, they've got designers now designing glasses.
01:03:24.000 They've got NBA players wearing them.
01:03:26.000 Tap it.
01:03:27.000 So it doesn't have that thing.
01:03:29.000 So I think...
01:03:29.000 So I am, full disclosure, I'm an investor in a Google Glass company.
01:03:32.000 How dare you! 0.99
01:03:33.000 But here's the reason why.
01:03:36.000 And they actually just had a bunch of press in the globe.
01:03:40.000 They're building software specifically for industries.
01:03:43.000 So they're working with doctors at Beth Israel who can use them to help check in folks, get their records, because they need both their hands free, right?
01:03:51.000 They're working with energy companies so that people out in the field can...
01:03:55.000 Have real-time data on what's going on at this random oil pump.
01:03:59.000 Like, if they gotta, you know, check settings or updates.
01:04:01.000 Like, basically, they're targeting specific industries where people need both their hands free.
01:04:05.000 And so it's not the sort of obnoxious, like, walking around on the street, ordering a latte from your face.
01:04:11.000 It's like, this is a very specific task where I need both my hands free and this is helpful.
01:04:16.000 And so I think that's where it'll succeed.
01:04:17.000 Kind of like how segues are just for mall cops.
01:04:20.000 I think this will be next level useful.
01:04:23.000 Oh, God, yes.
01:04:23.000 That's right.
01:04:24.000 Can't forget the tourists.
01:04:25.000 It's going to go blank on you.
01:04:27.000 I still haven't gone on one yet.
01:04:29.000 You haven't got one?
01:04:29.000 It'll change your life.
01:04:30.000 They're great.
01:04:30.000 They're really dope.
01:04:32.000 He's just being facetious.
01:04:33.000 That was like one of the things that they were saying about the product before it came out.
01:04:37.000 It was going to change your life.
01:04:39.000 Change cities.
01:04:39.000 Change your life.
01:04:40.000 Change life as we know it.
01:04:41.000 The streets around it. 1.00
01:04:42.000 You silly bitches. 1.00
01:04:44.000 That was the most ridiculous thing ever. 1.00
01:04:46.000 You're just standing and moving. 0.98
01:04:47.000 How's that changing life?
01:04:48.000 Did you hear about the new R-Age of cow tipping that's going on in San Francisco and stuff like that?
01:04:54.000 People are flipping those little baby electric small cars.
01:04:57.000 It's called smart car tipping. 0.99
01:05:01.000 Yeah, that's rude as fuck. 0.99
01:05:03.000 Wow. 1.00
01:05:04.000 Imagine if you went outside and you're a girl and you weigh 100 pounds and someone flipped your fucking car. 1.00
01:05:08.000 That's a dick move. 1.00
01:05:09.000 Asshole. 1.00
01:05:09.000 It is a dick move. 1.00
01:05:10.000 I also think... 0.99
01:05:11.000 So I grew up in the suburbs.
01:05:12.000 I did not see a lot of cows, I guess from time to time, but like, can you actually tip a cow?
01:05:18.000 Uh, no.
01:05:18.000 Yes.
01:05:19.000 Yes, you can.
01:05:19.000 They're huge.
01:05:20.000 No, no, no.
01:05:20.000 We've done it before.
01:05:22.000 You've never tipped a cow, bitch. 1.00
01:05:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:05:23.000 Yes, we did. 1.00
01:05:24.000 Really?
01:05:24.000 From Columbus, Ohio.
01:05:25.000 Me and my friends did it twice. 1.00
01:05:27.000 Bitch. 1.00
01:05:27.000 You've done it, right? 1.00
01:05:28.000 Was it like a calf?
01:05:29.000 Was it like one of those veal calves, too?
01:05:30.000 Just so weak.
01:05:31.000 What happens is that when the cows...
01:05:34.000 When the cows are in the fields, they pretty much lock their legs and sleep standing up a lot.
01:05:38.000 That's how I sleep.
01:05:39.000 And so you just go next to them and push them and they seriously just fall down.
01:05:42.000 But they're so heavy!
01:05:42.000 No, they just tip right over.
01:05:44.000 Cow tipping is huge in Ohio.
01:05:46.000 I thought this was stuff that suburban kids, like urban lore, because none of us ever hung out with.
01:05:52.000 Cows?
01:05:53.000 No!
01:05:53.000 If you ever want to go cow tipping, I'll take it.
01:05:55.000 I mean, it's completely rude and evil.
01:05:57.000 I don't think they would really like that.
01:05:59.000 No, they don't like it at all.
01:06:00.000 I wouldn't like it.
01:06:01.000 Did you really go cow tipping, Brian?
01:06:03.000 Twice.
01:06:04.000 Yeah, twice.
01:06:04.000 Can you find one YouTube video?
01:06:06.000 You actually pushed a cow over?
01:06:09.000 Yeah, me and two of my friends.
01:06:11.000 Okay, and I want it to be one of those...
01:06:12.000 Remember those night vision, like the Paris Hilton videos?
01:06:14.000 I want it to be one of those night vision videos of the cow tipping over.
01:06:17.000 Hold on, this is easy.
01:06:18.000 Alright.
01:06:19.000 Do you have an Instagram...
01:06:21.000 I do.
01:06:21.000 It's my name.
01:06:22.000 Just at Alexis Ohanian or Ohanian.
01:06:25.000 Okay.
01:06:27.000 That's another thing that's annoying about these things is that they insist on trying to change what you wrote.
01:06:35.000 Like my creative ethnic last name.
01:06:39.000 I'm not going to take it personally.
01:06:41.000 It's just that their autocorrect is really aggressive and goofy.
01:06:50.000 They're awake?
01:06:51.000 Yeah, well then good luck. 1.00
01:06:52.000 They're gonna kill you. 0.99
01:06:58.000 I see no cows tipped. 0.96
01:06:59.000 You gotta look at these videos before you put them online, bro.
01:07:02.000 Seriously.
01:07:02.000 Find something real.
01:07:05.000 You can do that off screen, right?
01:07:07.000 Yeah.
01:07:09.000 He might have thought he was cow tipping. 0.99
01:07:13.000 He's on mushrooms, tripping his balls off. 0.98
01:07:15.000 Dude, we tipped cows. 0.98
01:07:17.000 We never left the house, man.
01:07:18.000 What are you talking about?
01:07:19.000 We were in the field.
01:07:20.000 You don't remember?
01:07:21.000 I was there.
01:07:21.000 Oh, yeah, man.
01:07:23.000 I was tipping cows.
01:07:24.000 Yeah, I bet if we Snopes tipping cows. 1.00
01:07:27.000 Like, Snopes.
01:07:27.000 Snopes, cow tipping.
01:07:29.000 I should have brought my laptop.
01:07:30.000 Also, side note, and I've enjoyed your podcast.
01:07:33.000 I love the real time with the laptops. 0.99
01:07:37.000 I wish every show basically had someone in real time just calling out shit. 0.99
01:07:42.000 Here we go. 0.99
01:07:43.000 Ready?
01:07:44.000 Let's get this out of the way.
01:07:45.000 Cow tipping, at least as popularly imagined, does not exist.
01:07:49.000 Drunk men do not on any regular basis sneak into cow pastures and put a hard shoulder to a cow taking a standing snooze, thus tipping the poor animal over. 0.78
01:07:58.000 While in the history of the world, there have surely been a few unlucky cows shoved to their side by boozed-up morons, we feel confident in saying that this happens at a rate roughly equivalent to the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series. 0.89
01:08:10.000 That's not true. 0.99
01:08:12.000 Got snoped.
01:08:15.000 Cows sit down on their legs and just sit there, and you can go right up to them and tip them right over.
01:08:21.000 This is from modernfarmer.com.
01:08:25.000 Well, I'm convinced.
01:08:26.000 An article on cow tipping.
01:08:27.000 I've subscribed to Modern Farmer for a decade now, and they have never led me astray.
01:08:32.000 YouTube, the largest clearinghouse of human stupidity the world has ever known, where you can watch hours of kids taking the cinnamon challenge, teens jumping off rooftops on the trampolines, and the explosive results of fireworks set off indoors, fails to deliver one single actual cow tipping video. 0.80
01:08:51.000 Alright. 0.99
01:08:52.000 Well, we did it as a kid.
01:08:54.000 The one exception is a Russian dash cam video which shows a semi-truck full of cattle overturning.
01:09:00.000 That's really good.
01:09:01.000 You need to watch it.
01:09:02.000 And cows shaking themselves off and walking away. 1.00
01:09:05.000 Cows not giving a fuck. 0.99
01:09:06.000 Yeah, this is a spectacular dash cam video. 1.00
01:09:08.000 So this article is calling bullshit on you, Brian. 0.74
01:09:11.000 When I was younger, we would go to these farms in Plains City, Ohio. 0.99
01:09:16.000 And they would have tons of cows. 0.89
01:09:18.000 And we would break into the cows, smoke weed...
01:09:21.000 You break into the cows?
01:09:22.000 No, break into the fence.
01:09:24.000 And there would be cows that would sit there perched up on their legs, just sitting there sleeping.
01:09:31.000 We would come over and just push them right over.
01:09:33.000 I don't know if that's the cow tipping that you heard everybody doing, people saying that the cows tip over, but that's what we used to do because that's what we thought you were supposed to do.
01:09:41.000 I don't understand what you just said.
01:09:42.000 The cows are standing up, right?
01:09:44.000 Because they stand up when they sleep, right?
01:09:45.000 No, not all the time.
01:09:47.000 They go to their knees?
01:09:49.000 Here, I'll show you.
01:09:50.000 Okay.
01:09:51.000 I thought cows always stood up.
01:09:52.000 Horses always stand up, right?
01:09:54.000 I have no idea.
01:09:56.000 My gut's telling me horses are the ones.
01:09:59.000 Yeah, horses I think always stand up, right?
01:10:01.000 Yeah.
01:10:01.000 And if they're down, they're hurt.
01:10:03.000 We have the Google.
01:10:04.000 Yeah.
01:10:05.000 But I'm really skeptical of this cow tipping.
01:10:07.000 Sorry.
01:10:08.000 Yeah, the internet disagrees with you.
01:10:10.000 Oh, look at that.
01:10:11.000 Sounds like cow rolling.
01:10:13.000 Brown cow sleep. 0.99
01:10:14.000 That's cow rolling. 1.00
01:10:14.000 So the cow would be like that and you would just push it. 1.00
01:10:16.000 Yeah, but there would be tons of cows. 1.00
01:10:18.000 And it would be night at time and we'd be drunk.
01:10:20.000 And that's what we used to do.
01:10:21.000 Well, technically that seems to be cow tipping.
01:10:23.000 Technically that's cow tipping.
01:10:25.000 They're just lying down cows. 0.67
01:10:26.000 So you're going to send the email to Snopes saying, well, actually, you are wrong.
01:10:31.000 What? 1.00
01:10:31.000 Well, I have a feeling the problem with calling bullshit, if you didn't grow up in that environment, you might truly believe that it is bullshit. 1.00
01:10:39.000 But then if a guy like Brian actually grew up there and actually pushed over some cows... 0.99
01:10:44.000 Can we take this to your fan base?
01:10:45.000 See, they would sit like this, and then you just go over there and just push them over, and they would roll over and wake up and freak out, and it would be scary, and you would run away.
01:10:54.000 Now, cow tipping, what I think they're saying is not true, is actually tipping over a cow that's completely standing up, maybe.
01:11:02.000 Well, maybe that's what people have in their head, but what it really is is what you're talking about.
01:11:07.000 When we did it, we just did it because we heard people did it.
01:11:09.000 And then we were like, let's do it!
01:11:11.000 There's tons of cows here! 1.00
01:11:13.000 That's such a Brian Red Band move.
01:11:16.000 I heard other people were doing it, and I'm like, well, they're still alive. 1.00
01:11:19.000 Fuck it. 1.00
01:11:20.000 Fuck it. 1.00
01:11:21.000 So then cow tipping is real. 1.00
01:11:24.000 I would say cow tipping is real.
01:11:26.000 Well, yeah, cow rolling. 0.98
01:11:27.000 I'm going to call it cow rolling.
01:11:28.000 Yeah, cow rolling. 0.99
01:11:29.000 Well, then cow tipping, as in a cow standing up and you pushing it over, that doesn't exist.
01:11:35.000 But that's probably not what cow tipping ever was.
01:11:38.000 Unless they do sleep standing up.
01:11:40.000 Do cows sleep standing up? 1.00
01:11:40.000 Okay, we need to go to this. 1.00
01:11:43.000 Yeah, but do they also sleep standing up, I should say.
01:11:46.000 Let me just say how much I appreciate you guys getting to the bottom of this.
01:11:50.000 We need to.
01:11:51.000 Worst case, how far are we from some cows?
01:11:53.000 Not that far.
01:11:54.000 We can get to one in an hour.
01:11:55.000 Okay.
01:11:56.000 Does a cow sleep standing? 0.73
01:11:57.000 Common misconception that cows don't lie down.
01:12:01.000 While cows may doze off for a few minutes at a time while standing up, they typically lie down to sleep or simply to rest. 0.99
01:12:10.000 Okay, I'm calling bullshit on the people calling bullshit. 0.99
01:12:12.000 I think Brian's right. 0.99
01:12:14.000 I think Brian is right.
01:12:16.000 He went cow tipping.
01:12:17.000 And that's how you really cow tip because what everybody says is that cows are sleeping and you go up and push them.
01:12:21.000 Well, obviously, if that's not true, if they only take a little nap standing up and usually they sleep lying down, then their whole premise sucks because they don't understand what cow tipping is.
01:12:31.000 Yeah.
01:12:32.000 Cow tipping starts from the knees, like jujitsu class.
01:12:35.000 Like if you take wrestling class, you start standing up for the most part. 0.99
01:12:38.000 But in a room full of 50 dudes trying to double leg each other, that shit gets really dangerous. 0.85
01:12:43.000 So jujitsu classes all start from the knees. 0.97
01:12:45.000 So real cow tipping, like the idea of it, doesn't exist.
01:12:49.000 Because that's like wrestling style.
01:12:51.000 Everybody starts from their feet.
01:12:52.000 But jujitsu style, when you're already on the ground, that's real.
01:12:56.000 This is great.
01:12:57.000 Now whenever I drive past a bunch of cows, I'll be thinking about jujitsu.
01:13:00.000 Yeah.
01:13:00.000 That's what I do.
01:13:01.000 That's the vision.
01:13:02.000 That's my gift. 1.00
01:13:03.000 You should totally sell snopes to go fuck themselves. 1.00
01:13:07.000 The craziest thing is that... 1.00
01:13:09.000 Or Modern Farmer Incorporated or whatever it is.
01:13:10.000 How scary it was.
01:13:11.000 I just remembered it was...
01:13:12.000 I'd be scared.
01:13:14.000 How many times did you do it?
01:13:16.000 We did.
01:13:17.000 I remember twice.
01:13:18.000 Only remembers twice.
01:13:20.000 The first time scared the fuck out of you and then you're like, listen, I can do better.
01:13:24.000 I did it wrong.
01:13:24.000 Yeah.
01:13:25.000 And the reason was because we used to hang out at this bridge where we would drink underage.
01:13:31.000 And it was just like everyone would go to this bridge in the middle of nowhere.
01:13:34.000 And there was all these farms around it.
01:13:36.000 And that's why we'd go there because there was no police.
01:13:37.000 No one could even know you were there. 0.98
01:13:39.000 So you'd get bonfires and all this shit like that. 0.98
01:13:41.000 Oh. 0.93
01:13:42.000 After you got wasted, everyone kind of just played around in all the fields, and one of the fields was cows.
01:13:47.000 And it was pitch black because it was in the middle of the country, so it was just stars, and you'd see shadows of cows.
01:13:53.000 And so you'd sneak up going up to these cows. 0.97
01:13:55.000 You didn't have cell phones for lights or anything like that, so it was literally just lighters and shit.
01:14:00.000 And you'd just go up and just push it real fast, and it would go, and you'd just run away. 0.98
01:14:03.000 And it was the scariest shit ever. 0.99
01:14:05.000 Wow. 1.00
01:14:06.000 And you'd be stoned.
01:14:07.000 Exhilarating.
01:14:09.000 Did you ever find mushrooms on those cow patties?
01:14:12.000 Yeah, but back then you just didn't think about that.
01:14:15.000 Like, I didn't get into mushrooms until I was in college.
01:14:17.000 Well, Duncan went to school in Asheville, North Carolina, and when I went up there, I understand Duncan so much more after visiting Asheville, because it's just a hippie mecca.
01:14:26.000 They were getting...
01:14:27.000 And there's apparently the mushroom flora or whatever it is.
01:14:30.000 The spores are so healthy up there because it rains a lot.
01:14:34.000 And there's so many of them that they had to start giving the cows some sort of an antifungal diet to kill the mushrooms.
01:14:42.000 Because so many kids...
01:14:43.000 Because people are harvesting.
01:14:43.000 Meanwhile, it probably makes the kids sick because a few mushrooms probably grow on it.
01:14:47.000 Some poor poison psilocybin. 0.99
01:14:50.000 I mean, you want to talk about missing the fucking point, right? 1.00
01:14:52.000 Poor... 1.00
01:14:53.000 Poisoning cow shit so that the most beautiful thing that God ever created can't grow there, you fucking dummies. 1.00
01:15:00.000 But he said that they would constantly go there and just pluck them off and just eat them. 1.00
01:15:05.000 They were everywhere. 0.53
01:15:06.000 And just trip balls.
01:15:08.000 The whole town is so psychedelic, partially because of that.
01:15:12.000 The whole town is like... 1.00
01:15:14.000 Asheville, North Carolina is a trippy fucking place. 0.99
01:15:17.000 I feel like I need to visit now. 0.99
01:15:18.000 You gotta visit.
01:15:18.000 It's awesome.
01:15:19.000 It's really cool.
01:15:20.000 Everybody's walking around.
01:15:21.000 They have a main area where bars and restaurants are.
01:15:23.000 And people are just walking around.
01:15:25.000 Everybody's walking around.
01:15:26.000 It's like a small town...
01:15:28.000 That exists in a giant world, but they're modern. 0.99
01:15:32.000 I fucked up. 0.98
01:15:33.000 I shouldn't have told you guys about it. 0.99
01:15:34.000 It's going to ruin it.
01:15:36.000 But I kind of understand Duncan way more now after going to this town.
01:15:41.000 It's like, oh, I see.
01:15:43.000 You were spawned in one of the most awesome environments on Earth. 0.98
01:15:47.000 This place is fucking sweet. 0.98
01:15:49.000 What did they call it when they went out on an expedition, I wonder? 0.99
01:15:52.000 They didn't call it cow tipping.
01:15:54.000 No, do you want to go like...
01:15:56.000 Candy picking.
01:15:56.000 Shroom harvesting.
01:15:57.000 Yeah, some kind of thing.
01:15:58.000 Let's go get shrooms, man! 1.00
01:16:00.000 That shit's so dangerous, though. 0.99
01:16:02.000 Because I remember, even as a kid, just going up and eating berries. 1.00
01:16:05.000 Because I was like, oh, look, berries!
01:16:06.000 And I would just start kicking berries. 1.00
01:16:08.000 Fuck! 1.00
01:16:08.000 Wow. 1.00
01:16:09.000 You know?
01:16:09.000 And then, like, you find out later.
01:16:10.000 That's ambitious, man.
01:16:11.000 Dude, you were one of those kids that 100 years ago, you would have never survived.
01:16:15.000 There's no way.
01:16:16.000 You would have been dead before you were 10. Ooh, fire!
01:16:18.000 And what's that, honeysuckle shit? 0.99
01:16:21.000 Like, I used to eat a lot of plants, because there was nothing to do. 0.99
01:16:25.000 So it was that purple stuff where you'd pull it out and just suck on it.
01:16:27.000 There was nothing to do?
01:16:28.000 Yeah, so we'd just eat grass.
01:16:30.000 Yeah, I would eat a few things.
01:16:32.000 You know what I found out that tastes good, actually, is dandelions.
01:16:35.000 Like dandelion greens.
01:16:37.000 Make salads out of dandelion greens.
01:16:39.000 My grandmother used to make them.
01:16:41.000 And I went over to the house once, and she had this dandelion salad, and I was like, what is that?
01:16:46.000 And I was like, that's dandelions?
01:16:48.000 And they were like, it's really good for you.
01:16:49.000 It's edible, too.
01:16:50.000 My uncle telling me it was good for me, I think, is what convinced me.
01:16:53.000 But then I found out that it's like a common vegetable that a lot of people eat dandelions.
01:16:57.000 You can make tea?
01:16:58.000 Am I crazy?
01:16:58.000 Make tea out of it?
01:16:59.000 I believe you can, yeah.
01:17:00.000 But it's actually good, like, as a salad.
01:17:02.000 It's a good tasting green. 0.98
01:17:04.000 And pretty fucking good for you, too. 0.99
01:17:06.000 What's not to like? 0.99
01:17:07.000 I don't know how we got onto the subject.
01:17:08.000 Dandelion business.
01:17:09.000 I don't know how we got onto the dandelions.
01:17:10.000 We've covered a lot of green on this.
01:17:13.000 Yeah, a lot of plants.
01:17:14.000 That's good.
01:17:14.000 Very eco-friendly.
01:17:15.000 What makes the world go round, my friend?
01:17:17.000 And you know what else makes the world go round? 0.99
01:17:18.000 People know what the fuck they're talking about. 0.99
01:17:20.000 That's why this cow tipping thing, it's really pissing me off. 0.99
01:17:24.000 Because I believe Brian. 1.00
01:17:25.000 I think cow tipping is some real shit. 0.99
01:17:27.000 I think this is something... 1.00
01:17:28.000 It starts here.
01:17:29.000 There's smart car tipping.
01:17:30.000 Smart car tipping has hit Columbus.
01:17:32.000 Smart car tipping has hit Columbus, Ohio.
01:17:36.000 Wow. 1.00
01:17:37.000 That's so stupid. 1.00
01:17:39.000 It's so rude. 1.00
01:17:41.000 It's totally rude.
01:17:42.000 It's easy to do, I bet, though.
01:17:43.000 Yeah.
01:17:44.000 I bet like three or four guys could probably push one of those things over pretty easy.
01:17:47.000 How much do they weigh?
01:17:48.000 Can't be more than like 1,500 pounds, right?
01:17:52.000 I still flinch whenever I watch the YouTube videos of the crash tests and those things, because they are more resilient than you'd expect, but I would not want to be in one at a top speed.
01:18:05.000 I wouldn't want to be in anything in a top speed.
01:18:09.000 There's a guy who used to fight in the UFC, Matt Grice, and he got rear-ended.
01:18:12.000 Someone was going like 60 miles an hour, and his car was parked, and he...
01:18:19.000 Yeah.
01:18:38.000 Yep.
01:18:39.000 Boom, you see that thing here?
01:18:40.000 Oh my god.
01:18:41.000 Wow, yeah, it does actually stay in actually some kind of weird chunk.
01:18:44.000 Wow, that's incredible.
01:18:45.000 It looks pretty good, actually.
01:18:47.000 Look at that. 0.94
01:18:47.000 Yeah, you're still dead. 0.94
01:18:49.000 Maybe you, bitch. 1.00
01:18:52.000 Maybe I'll be fine, bro. 1.00
01:18:54.000 I'll walk away from that shit and I'll jerk off on the car. 1.00
01:18:58.000 Man, I saw a bad Mini Cooper crash the other day. 1.00
01:19:00.000 It freaked me out.
01:19:01.000 They're small, man.
01:19:03.000 They're small.
01:19:03.000 I mean, no matter what, they're small.
01:19:05.000 Just that thing that happened on the highway is like everybody's worst nightmare.
01:19:09.000 The FedEx truck crashed into a school bus filled with high school kids.
01:19:13.000 Oh, yeah.
01:19:15.000 Horrible.
01:19:16.000 Northern California yesterday.
01:19:18.000 Was it Northern California?
01:19:19.000 North?
01:19:19.000 Mid-California somewhere?
01:19:21.000 But it was on the 5, which is kind of a sketchy freeway, and apparently it's just a giant collision, nine people dead, like one of those horrible fire situations.
01:19:30.000 I am firmly in the self-driving car camp.
01:19:34.000 I am ready.
01:19:36.000 The Google car?
01:19:36.000 Well, or any, I mean, there's a company coming up right now.
01:19:39.000 There are a few people working on this.
01:19:42.000 But I'm just ready for robots.
01:19:43.000 I mean, look, 95...
01:19:45.000 That's a new meme, bro.
01:19:46.000 I'm ready for robots.
01:19:47.000 I'm ready for the robots until they enslave us.
01:19:50.000 But 95% of our flights are robot.
01:19:53.000 Obviously, there are fewer things to hit in the sky.
01:19:55.000 But we trust robots with a lot.
01:19:58.000 And when it comes to the self-driving cars, I've gotten to ride in one for a minute.
01:20:02.000 And we're getting there. 0.99
01:20:03.000 But there's so many senseless deaths, so much senseless bullshit that happens because of... 1.00
01:20:08.000 Human error behind the wheel of, you know, a fucking thing that weighs a lot. 0.99
01:20:12.000 That's totally true, but will you long for freedom? 0.97
01:20:15.000 One of the things that I've been thinking about when we were talking about you're saying, like, oh, I wish I was...
01:20:20.000 I'm jealous of these kids that are born today.
01:20:22.000 I don't buy it, because I'm very...
01:20:25.000 I think that I'm very, very fortunate to have been born in a time where the internet didn't exist, to grow, to be a young man without it, and then experience it once I've kind of...
01:20:37.000 Yeah.
01:20:58.000 It's going to be illegal to be in a fast car.
01:21:00.000 It's going to be illegal to do anything that propels you on your own.
01:21:04.000 But if you look at what's going on with technology, if you look at the idea of self-driving cars, at a certain point in time, what's the justification for letting someone drive their own car if their ratio of crashes is even 10% higher?
01:21:17.000 I mean, as long as...
01:21:18.000 Okay, here's the thing.
01:21:19.000 Humans are infinitely resourceful.
01:21:21.000 Like, I think...
01:21:22.000 I imagine it looking like cruise control for a while, where, like, the self-driving...
01:21:26.000 You'll still be sitting there.
01:21:27.000 You'll be chilling, but, like, it's in cruise control.
01:21:29.000 And then at any point, you can just hit the brake or start driving.
01:21:31.000 Dickheads would just start doing that and weaving it out of traffic, and you'd be right back to the 101 again. 0.99
01:21:36.000 It'd be the same fucking animal over and over again. 1.00
01:21:38.000 I mean, you could... 1.00
01:21:39.000 Well...
01:21:39.000 Come on, bro.
01:21:40.000 There would be bits of that, but it's still not as bad as, like, if it's 1% of the people doing it, which I think is still pretty high, but, like, then you still have 99% of them being efficient robot cars.
01:21:50.000 I think, without this sounding too, you know, into the future, the hope is, though, humans are resourceful.
01:21:56.000 Even if you had it mandated where every car was just, it only knew how to self-drive, someone would hack it.
01:22:02.000 Someone would figure out a way to get a wheel on there.
01:22:05.000 I sense a class war.
01:22:06.000 Oh, well, that's a whole other story, but it's coming.
01:22:09.000 Yeah.
01:22:09.000 The highway flooded with these self-driving cars and other people are standing up while they're driving their continental convertible screaming at the top of their lungs.
01:22:17.000 At the robots. 1.00
01:22:18.000 Fuck the robots! 1.00
01:22:19.000 People taking lawnmowers onto the highway. 1.00
01:22:22.000 Fuck the robots! 1.00
01:22:23.000 Tractors. 1.00
01:22:24.000 Yeah, anything with four wheels in.
01:22:26.000 While there's a robot.
01:22:28.000 The whole thing is bizarre.
01:22:30.000 It's going to happen.
01:22:31.000 I mean, the technology that's invaded our lives so far or become a part of our lives so far, it's not stopping anytime soon.
01:22:38.000 And I will say this.
01:22:39.000 I am...
01:22:40.000 I think...
01:22:41.000 So yeah, I got to...
01:22:42.000 I mean, I know a little bit of the pre-internet world.
01:22:44.000 And I'm still jealous, but I will have...
01:22:46.000 You know, I'll have my own transition.
01:22:48.000 This is all a process, right?
01:22:49.000 The generation coming up will take the internet for granted.
01:22:52.000 They'll have that.
01:22:53.000 But like...
01:22:54.000 There is inevitably going to be something else that displaces them and blows their minds.
01:22:58.000 Maybe it's like the Gattaca baby situation.
01:23:00.000 I think...
01:23:02.000 We're already at a point now where we can better understand human DNA. It's the point where it's like, alright, it's not unreasonable to imagine a world where like, hey, if you don't want this genetic disorder, we can make sure your kid doesn't have that.
01:23:14.000 Most people would probably be like, yeah.
01:23:17.000 Man.
01:23:17.000 You don't want to be the first guy to say yeah to that.
01:23:19.000 No.
01:23:20.000 But you can, I mean, this is all pretty reasonable here.
01:23:23.000 And you imagine, okay, well, let's say that happens.
01:23:25.000 Then it's like, alright, well, we've gotten rid of like, okay, Parkinson's or whatever.
01:23:28.000 Most people are pretty happy about that.
01:23:30.000 But then it's like, well, if you can do that...
01:23:32.000 Do you want your kid to have blue eyes?
01:23:33.000 We can do that too.
01:23:34.000 It's just real easy.
01:23:35.000 Do you want a blue eye?
01:23:36.000 And then you very quickly start seeing the Gattaca scenario start playing out.
01:23:40.000 And these are going to be really interesting and serious ethical questions we'll be asking ourselves in terms of like...
01:23:46.000 I mean, I generally...
01:23:48.000 I'm on the side where I'd be very happy if a lot of genetic disorders were...
01:23:52.000 Technology was able to remove those things from happening.
01:23:54.000 But at what point does it start crossing the line of us tampering too much and deciding, you know?
01:23:59.000 I don't think there's a line.
01:24:00.000 I think that's what we're here for.
01:24:02.000 I really do.
01:24:03.000 I think the idea of us slowing down innovation for some reason, like because we're crossing a line that we invented ourselves. 0.70
01:24:09.000 It's ridiculous.
01:24:10.000 I think there's a pattern. 0.60
01:24:12.000 And I think if you look at that pattern, the pattern is constant exponential growth of technology and innovation.
01:24:17.000 And it's a thing that human beings are thirsty for.
01:24:20.000 We're freaking out about the Galaxy S5 came out today.
01:24:23.000 Woo! 0.99
01:24:23.000 Woo! 0.99
01:24:24.000 You know, I mean, I was at Radio Shack yesterday getting some headphones. 1.00
01:24:27.000 There's fucking people that work there. 0.99
01:24:29.000 There's still Radio Shacks? 1.00
01:24:30.000 There's Radio Shack.
01:24:31.000 I don't know if Radio Shack's a sponsor, but I'm sorry.
01:24:34.000 Elitist!
01:24:34.000 What if a man wants to make his own ham radio?
01:24:38.000 We can order the parts online.
01:24:40.000 Yeah, how are they open?
01:24:41.000 With a tutorial.
01:24:41.000 They had customers.
01:24:42.000 But the bottom line is I was there because I needed to get a headphone for my cell phone.
01:24:47.000 And I go, when is that?
01:24:50.000 Because I knew it was out sometime this week.
01:24:52.000 I go, when is that Galaxy S5 out?
01:24:53.000 Is it out today or tomorrow?
01:24:55.000 And this guy, first thing out of his mouth, I'm going to get it before you do!
01:24:58.000 Really? 0.95
01:24:59.000 Yeah, like, ooh, burn!
01:25:00.000 Wow.
01:25:01.000 Like, that's the thing.
01:25:02.000 Like, everybody wants to have it first.
01:25:03.000 Oh, man.
01:25:04.000 Give Nerds a bad name. 1.00
01:25:06.000 Up to 1,100 stores.
01:25:07.000 Oh, Radio Shack.
01:25:08.000 I got my first job was at CompUSA.
01:25:10.000 I was not sad about seeing them close, though.
01:25:12.000 I was a 13, 14-year-old pudgy kid who was demoing...
01:25:18.000 Video games.
01:25:19.000 Well, it was mostly computer hardware in the middle of a CompUSA.
01:25:23.000 For every 30 minutes, I'd have to get on the headset microphone with the big TV behind me, demo MadLens language learning software.
01:25:31.000 And I'd have the same routine for 15 minutes every 30 minutes, and literally no one would be watching.
01:25:37.000 And here I am, this teenager going through puberty.
01:25:39.000 And I've got people.
01:25:41.000 People would walk up to me and be like, no one's listening, kid.
01:25:44.000 Just stop.
01:25:45.000 No one's listening.
01:25:46.000 And it's like, well, I don't blame you for hating me.
01:25:48.000 But it was great because it got all of my public speaking fears out of the way because I spent two years being ignored every 30 minutes.
01:25:56.000 That seems like a really good way, actually.
01:25:59.000 It was great.
01:25:59.000 I was getting paid for it.
01:26:00.000 The company I technically worked for was called SIDEA, S-I-D-E-A, but they were one of the casualties of the tech boom.
01:26:05.000 That seems like a really good idea.
01:26:07.000 If you wanted to alleviate your fear, put yourself in one of the most uncomfortable situations and get numb to it.
01:26:13.000 Dude, yes.
01:26:14.000 And people ask me, oh, well, because tech, there are some very good public speakers in tech, but the common stereotype is that they're not.
01:26:21.000 And so a lot of people ask, oh, how'd you get good at this?
01:26:24.000 And I'd say, because I did it a ton.
01:26:26.000 My first job was getting paid to just do it while going through puberty.
01:26:29.000 That is funny.
01:26:29.000 Freaking fascinating, man.
01:26:30.000 So if you want to get good at it, just do it.
01:26:32.000 10,000 hours, right?
01:26:33.000 Just get up, get awkward, get in front of people, and embarrass yourself.
01:26:37.000 That's fascinating.
01:26:38.000 That job probably really played a pivotal role in your life.
01:26:42.000 Dude, real talk, I have the card.
01:26:44.000 I still have the business card from Carlos, who's the guy who hired me at Sideya, because he was the first guy who gave me a shot.
01:26:51.000 Carlos from Sideya, if you're watching, you created this monster. 0.69
01:26:56.000 Yeah, that's an important thing, man. 0.99
01:26:58.000 Sometimes things will happen to you when you're young, when you think it's just a shit job, but it really is some weird life lesson. 1.00
01:27:06.000 Dude, I always tell people, fuck getting an MBA. I got a job doing public speaking as a teenager, being embarrassed routinely, and then my next job was in the service industry, and I waited tables and cooked at Pizza Hut. 0.99
01:27:17.000 And seriously, that will teach you...
01:27:21.000 So much about entrepreneurship, right?
01:27:23.000 Because at the end of the day, you're on the front lines for...
01:27:26.000 I mean, your pay is coming from that tip.
01:27:27.000 And it's a matter of balancing, you know, satisfying the customer.
01:27:30.000 A customer is not always right, but almost always right.
01:27:34.000 And dealing with it and solving problems with other humans.
01:27:38.000 And if you can bridge that gap of, like, empathy...
01:27:42.000 Man, I use that every single day as an entrepreneur.
01:27:44.000 Every single day.
01:27:44.000 Absolutely.
01:27:45.000 And also, I think the shitty jobs that you have when you're growing up inspire you to not want to have shitty jobs. 0.97
01:27:52.000 Yes. 0.98
01:27:53.000 That is true.
01:27:53.000 I worked with my friend Jimmy.
01:27:54.000 That is true.
01:27:54.000 My pal Jimmy Lawless.
01:27:56.000 I worked with him for like two weeks one summer.
01:27:59.000 He was a carpenter and I was like...
01:28:01.000 He graduated a year ahead of me, and he had always had his eyes on doing carpentry.
01:28:07.000 I was just looking for a labor gig for the summer. 0.98
01:28:10.000 But within two weeks, I don't even think I lasted two weeks, it was fucking brutal. 0.97
01:28:16.000 We were building a Knights of Columbus wheelchair ramp. 0.96
01:28:19.000 So nights at Columbus Hall.
01:28:20.000 So the entire day, every day, was spent carrying bags of cement and pressure-treated lumber.
01:28:27.000 Which is this huge wheelchair ramp.
01:28:29.000 So just bag after bag of cement. 1.00
01:28:32.000 Just carrying these fucking bags. 1.00
01:28:35.000 Boom! 1.00
01:28:35.000 Carrying these logs. 1.00
01:28:37.000 Boom! 0.99
01:28:37.000 That was the whole day. 0.99
01:28:38.000 And by the end of the day, you were dead.
01:28:40.000 You couldn't do anything.
01:28:42.000 See, and I wouldn't last three hours.
01:28:45.000 I lasted like two weeks, but I used to think about it forever.
01:28:49.000 I would think about that gig, and I'd be like, that's what it's like when you're doing something that you don't want to be doing.
01:28:54.000 It's unbelievably difficult.
01:28:56.000 That's the life, and that would motivate me to get things done. 0.63
01:28:59.000 If I never had that gig, I probably wouldn't know how hard a job can suck.
01:29:04.000 I really wouldn't know.
01:29:05.000 That's the truth, man.
01:29:06.000 That should be...
01:29:09.000 But that is top flight advice for any, especially because, look, I know those of us especially getting into tech, it's a hot industry right now, right?
01:29:16.000 There's more money than ever going into it, making a lot of people rich.
01:29:19.000 There are a lot of kids coming out of college who want to be the next Zuck or the next whoever.
01:29:24.000 They want to be the next billionaire.
01:29:25.000 Did you really call him Zuck?
01:29:26.000 Zuck.
01:29:26.000 They want to be the next Zuck.
01:29:28.000 Zuck girls. 0.99
01:29:29.000 Zuckabag.
01:29:29.000 Do you call him Zuck because you know him?
01:29:31.000 Zuckabag.
01:29:31.000 That's how you guys, when you hang.
01:29:33.000 Yo, Zuck.
01:29:34.000 I've met him once or twice, but we're not friends.
01:29:36.000 I mean, I'm not saying that we're not, like...
01:29:39.000 I live in New York.
01:29:40.000 I'm not in the Silicon Valley world.
01:29:43.000 I dabble, but I just visit.
01:29:45.000 Right, I hear you.
01:29:46.000 That's probably the best way to be.
01:29:47.000 Because then you would start talking like one of those West Coast techies.
01:29:52.000 Yes.
01:29:53.000 Over-enunciating.
01:29:55.000 So that's the problem.
01:29:57.000 I think for a lot, I think I'm just getting a sense, and I'm generalizing here, but I think a lot of the kids right now who are trying to get into that maybe never had that job, maybe never had that bit of perspective because Right.
01:30:08.000 That I think has helped me a ton, tremendously.
01:30:10.000 I think it's obviously helped lots of people over many, many centuries to just understand, get a bit of sense.
01:30:16.000 I mean, I know I live in a bubble now.
01:30:18.000 As much as I wish I didn't, I know I to some extent live in a bubble, but I still try to...
01:30:24.000 Keep that perspective as best I can, which is hard, but it's the fact.
01:30:29.000 And look, what you're talking about, that's skilled labor. 0.71
01:30:31.000 Like, speaking of things like with the robots, skilled labor is something that still, like, when robots can do that, they will enslave us.
01:30:39.000 So those jobs, or what I'm trying to say, are going to be really, they're fundamental already, but they're only going to continue to be important because humans have to do them.
01:30:48.000 And they are shitty, hard work, but we don't have enough people.
01:30:52.000 I know Mike Rowe has a really good campaign, actually, for getting more young people interested in the trades, because there's a huge demand for welders, for carpenters, for all these people, because we don't have a generation coming up now that knows how to do this stuff. 0.59
01:31:05.000 I mean, I can barely put together IKEA furniture myself, and I'm lucky because I'm good with, like, a laptop, but... 0.95
01:31:10.000 It's a real need, and it's hard to fucking work. 0.58
01:31:14.000 Well, not only that, I mean, doing carpentry, like building a house, is really kind of fun. 0.97
01:31:19.000 Building a house is very rewarding.
01:31:22.000 If you're a guy that has developed, like I grew up, my stepdad was an architect, and so I grew up around a lot of work developers and a lot of construction guys.
01:31:29.000 I got to see the pride that they take when they've completed a job and built a building that they designed.
01:31:34.000 They all work together on this.
01:31:35.000 It's a cool thing.
01:31:37.000 It's a cool thing to see and watch.
01:31:39.000 And the fact that that's sort of like a dwindling part of what kids are looking to do in tomorrow's age, it's kind of sad.
01:31:48.000 It's a problem.
01:31:49.000 It is a problem, but it's kind of sad.
01:31:51.000 I mean, there's always going to be people that appreciate it, though.
01:31:52.000 There's always going to be someone that builds an awesome log house that's in demand. 0.54
01:31:56.000 Cabin porn.
01:31:57.000 I think that's actually a website. 0.99
01:31:59.000 Cabin porn. 0.96
01:31:59.000 Don't say it out loud unless you're affiliated. 0.96
01:32:02.000 No, but like, and I hope, actually, I don't know, I can't remember what Mike Rowe's organization is called, but it's trying to push for that.
01:32:10.000 And don't get me wrong, I am the guy who's also telling people, like, learn how to code.
01:32:13.000 If you want the superpower for this century...
01:32:15.000 It's learning how to code.
01:32:17.000 That takes a lot of time.
01:32:18.000 Jamie and I were talking about that yesterday.
01:32:19.000 Too much work.
01:32:20.000 Sorry.
01:32:21.000 Well, then, I guess you're not going to be Mark Zuckerberg, Joe.
01:32:26.000 Yeah, I'm not.
01:32:27.000 I'm not going to be a Zuck. 0.92
01:32:28.000 I'm not coding.
01:32:29.000 It's not happening.
01:32:31.000 Also, if someone else did what I did, it would be a harrowing experience.
01:32:36.000 They wouldn't enjoy it.
01:32:37.000 And if I did what they did, difference jokes for different folks, my friend.
01:32:41.000 Yeah, yes, indeed.
01:32:42.000 Oh, yeah.
01:32:44.000 When you look at the future, when you see what's happened just in the short amount of time that Reddit's been around, you see what happens in the time of your first computer when you were on...
01:32:54.000 Were you on AOL? I was a little late.
01:32:57.000 It was an ISP called Air Rules.
01:32:59.000 Oh, you had a regular ISP. 33.6, so I was a little late in the game.
01:33:03.000 Oh, really late?
01:33:03.000 That was my first moment.
01:33:04.000 I had a 14.4.
01:33:05.000 Whoa.
01:33:06.000 14.4.
01:33:09.000 I remember 56k blew my foot. 0.99
01:33:11.000 Fucking mine! 1.00
01:33:12.000 This can't be real! 1.00
01:33:13.000 It's crazy.
01:33:14.000 And then there was like dual line 56k, so you could get like two 56k's together and share bandwidth.
01:33:20.000 Insanity!
01:33:22.000 Insanity!
01:33:23.000 All the stuff you could download so much faster.
01:33:25.000 But when you look at that and you look at the future, do you think the future is going to be in some sort of like an implant or some smaller and smaller device that lets you interface with the web?
01:33:34.000 I hope it's not too invasive.
01:33:38.000 I mean, there are already people living that kind of cyborg lifestyle now.
01:33:42.000 We've seen the transhuman community.
01:33:45.000 The basic level is just quantified self and having a thing that counts your steps, or Google Glass.
01:33:52.000 But there are next level...
01:33:53.000 Fitbits, those things.
01:33:54.000 But there really is a transhuman community of people who have cybernetic eyes, who have replaced... 0.99
01:34:01.000 Wait a minute, do they really have cybernetic eyes?
01:34:02.000 Yeah.
01:34:03.000 There's a filmmaker, a Canadian filmmaker actually, who's got...
01:34:06.000 He lost an eye in a shooting accident, replaced it.
01:34:09.000 And as a filmmaker, it actually, at least he argues, helped him with his craft.
01:34:13.000 Wow.
01:34:14.000 But there are people who have lost limbs.
01:34:16.000 One of the things that actually really intrigued me about the world...
01:34:20.000 Yeah.
01:34:37.000 And there's been so much innovation on the last couple of decades to help with limb replacement, right?
01:34:42.000 Where you can actually move digits on fingers based on impulses from your armpit.
01:34:46.000 You obviously, there's the Blade Runner, and to see the improvements on feet where you can actually run faster on these artificial limbs than on the real ones.
01:34:57.000 There are people who are living through this right now because of whether they were born this way or some injury that happened.
01:35:03.000 But you're also seeing people who are deciding to enhance themselves through this technology.
01:35:10.000 This bionic eye thing is freaking me the fuck out.
01:35:16.000 Apparently, I don't think they have a completely bionic eye, but they have chips that they've installed in eyes.
01:35:25.000 Yeah, he's...
01:35:26.000 You had the filmmakers...
01:35:28.000 Yeah.
01:35:28.000 I can't remember the name.
01:35:31.000 They figured out a way...
01:35:32.000 Sorry, I don't think it's a totally fake eye.
01:35:35.000 I think what...
01:35:37.000 Unless it's a totally different story.
01:35:39.000 Is that live science?
01:35:40.000 Yeah.
01:35:41.000 What does it say?
01:35:42.000 Robot madness, human becomes eyeborg.
01:35:44.000 Rob Spence, a one-eyed filmmaker, holds up a prosthetic eye in the camera he hopes he can fit inside.
01:35:50.000 And I don't know how old that article is, but I... This is...
01:35:54.000 Oh, from 2009. Never mind.
01:35:55.000 But he's been doing a lot of work in this area and meeting a bunch of, you know, fellow cyborgs all over the world talking about this.
01:36:02.000 And, like, there's a transhuman subreddit.
01:36:04.000 If you go to r slash transhuman, there's an entire community of people, hundreds of thousands, who are talking about all of this.
01:36:11.000 Here's the article about him that's really recent from March 21st.
01:36:15.000 And it says colorblind.
01:36:17.000 It says color in the English way of pronouncing.
01:36:20.000 This is why we had that revolution.
01:36:21.000 Colorblind artist becomes world's first iBorg.
01:36:24.000 An artist is born literally colorblind, is able to hear different colors through an iBorg antenna that he has now had implanted into the back of his head.
01:36:35.000 Whoa.
01:36:36.000 Just for colors.
01:36:37.000 Just for colors.
01:36:38.000 He's just colorblind.
01:36:39.000 He's not even blind.
01:36:40.000 31-year-old Nir Harbison.
01:36:42.000 This guy really wants to see colors.
01:36:44.000 From Camden.
01:36:44.000 How will he know if he's seen them?
01:36:46.000 If he's never seen them before. 0.98
01:36:49.000 How do we know what the fuck that is? 0.98
01:36:50.000 Maybe he thinks it's colors. 0.98
01:36:51.000 And you're like, can I borrow your eyes? 1.00
01:36:52.000 Bitch, you don't see color. 1.00
01:36:54.000 Fucking shitty ass eyes back. 1.00
01:36:56.000 It's like people who were trying to convince you that the first droids were good. 1.00
01:36:59.000 Dude, it's just like an iPhone.
01:37:00.000 Okay, let me try to make a text message.
01:37:02.000 Why does it vibrate when I touch? 1.00
01:37:04.000 Get this fucking piece of shit out of here. 1.00
01:37:07.000 It worked until you touched it. 1.00
01:37:08.000 Blackberry with the fucking push button screen. 1.00
01:37:11.000 Click, click, click. 1.00
01:37:12.000 Do you remember that?
01:37:13.000 I had a Blackberry for a minute in like 2005, 2006. But that was...
01:37:18.000 Well, they were not bad at the time.
01:37:19.000 No, they were great.
01:37:20.000 But there was a BlackBerry attempt at an iPhone-like device.
01:37:22.000 Oh, no.
01:37:23.000 Do you remember that?
01:37:24.000 No.
01:37:24.000 Oh, it was deaf.
01:37:25.000 Yeah, BlackBerry Touch or something like that?
01:37:27.000 Something like that.
01:37:27.000 I think that's exactly what it was.
01:37:29.000 Oh, poor BlackBerry. 1.00
01:37:30.000 It was dog shit. 1.00
01:37:31.000 Too soon, guys. 1.00
01:37:32.000 Too soon.
01:37:32.000 Remember when picture messaging had that number and you had to go to a website and then type in the number just to see a very small photo?
01:37:40.000 Yeah. 0.94
01:37:40.000 Tiny ass little thing. 0.94
01:37:42.000 Yeah, so this guy's... 1.00
01:37:43.000 I mean, he's crazy as fuck. 1.00
01:37:45.000 Because he can see. 1.00
01:37:47.000 And so just to get colors...
01:37:49.000 Okay, no wait, there's definitely another dude.
01:37:51.000 But this is the artist.
01:37:52.000 Colorblind artist?
01:37:53.000 Or he's a blind guy?
01:37:54.000 There's a...
01:37:55.000 It's just a filmmaker who just lost an eye.
01:37:59.000 See?
01:38:00.000 All this is happening.
01:38:00.000 All this is to say, I think we are approaching a point where these technologies, basically the internet, have a much more seamless interaction with us.
01:38:09.000 But we still got a little while.
01:38:12.000 Still got a little bit.
01:38:14.000 Yeah, but whatever.
01:38:16.000 Enjoy this moment because when it hits, it's going to be so fucking weird.
01:38:20.000 When the singularity does take place, which I personally think is going to be some sort of an artificial creation, whether it's artificial intelligence or a network that can think for itself, a sentient network.
01:38:31.000 Get my matrix.
01:38:33.000 Yeah, one of those things is going to happen. 1.00
01:38:35.000 And it's going to be a motherfucker, man. 0.99
01:38:37.000 It's going to be a complete flipping of the board table. 0.99
01:38:40.000 Yeah.
01:38:42.000 What I like about Kurzweil and the whole singularity push is they are optimistic futurists.
01:38:49.000 There are definitely a lot of futurists who are just going to...
01:38:50.000 They're real downers.
01:38:52.000 But the Kurzweil one is a pretty...
01:38:54.000 A pretty positive one.
01:38:56.000 And dude, who wouldn't...
01:38:56.000 I mean, the crazy thing is, right, if we have enough processing power...
01:39:01.000 Okay, if life is just perception, right?
01:39:03.000 A little thing that goes...
01:39:04.000 Again, not a scientist.
01:39:06.000 But it's things that fire that make us feel like we're perceiving this world or that sandwich or that beer or whatever.
01:39:11.000 Like, if you have enough processing power to reproduce the human brain...
01:39:14.000 How can we actually tell the difference?
01:39:16.000 I mean, if at the end of the day, it's doing all the same things, right?
01:39:20.000 We're just perceiving a world.
01:39:22.000 It really starts to question consciousness and humanity and all kinds of really big, awesome things.
01:39:28.000 Absolutely.
01:39:29.000 What is humanity?
01:39:31.000 Is it just the standards that we've accepted because this is what we're accustomed to and this is our culture and so we don't want to change things?
01:39:38.000 Or in the face of Some overwhelming, intelligent life that we've created ourselves that literally becomes gods around us.
01:39:45.000 We're going to have some weird decisions to make as to what... 0.99
01:39:48.000 Should we keep fucking? 1.00
01:39:49.000 These guys are way better than us. 1.00
01:39:50.000 And they could enslave us.
01:39:52.000 And they could enslave us.
01:39:53.000 I mean, this is getting real now.
01:39:55.000 I don't want to worry you guys too much about Skynet.
01:39:58.000 Don't...
01:40:00.000 I mean, don't worry about it. 0.86
01:40:02.000 Scare the shit out of us. 0.62
01:40:03.000 No, these are...
01:40:05.000 I mean, I don't have answers to this stuff.
01:40:06.000 I've got a front row seat, and it's been fascinating.
01:40:09.000 That's one of the things...
01:40:10.000 So Y Combinator was the VC firm, the seat stage VC firm that first invested in me and Steve like nine years ago.
01:40:17.000 And I work as a sort of advisor and ambassador for them these days.
01:40:21.000 But like...
01:40:22.000 The companies that come through there, like, I mean, yeah, me and Steve got through with Reddit, but if we'd applied today, we would have just been laughed at.
01:40:29.000 What do you mean?
01:40:30.000 Applied?
01:40:30.000 If we'd applied today with what we did nine years ago, we would have been laughed out of the room because the applications, the quality, the richness, how much they've created and how far they've come is so much further along.
01:40:41.000 And so we are, you know, companies like Airbnb and Dropbox, for instance, also went through Y Combinator.
01:40:47.000 Multi-billion dollar companies that started the same way we did, just a couple of founders and pizza and working.
01:40:53.000 And we're seeing companies now that are doing...
01:40:55.000 Like, there's a self-driving car company that went through the last batch.
01:40:57.000 There are a couple of engineers who have outfitted their Audi with a self-driving thing.
01:41:03.000 It looks like the thing on top of the police car.
01:41:06.000 It looks like one of those things.
01:41:07.000 And it's just all the sensors.
01:41:09.000 And they can do highway driving in this Audi.
01:41:12.000 You can actually, like, sit in this thing while it drives.
01:41:14.000 And it's a self-driving car that three engineers have been hacking on for the last six months.
01:41:19.000 Like... 0.92
01:41:21.000 You can just drop your jaw and be like, holy shit, this is a wild future that is being created right before our eyes by people just like me. 0.91
01:41:30.000 And things like the Google Glass, which I think is just a step along the way. 0.96
01:41:35.000 The gap has to be bridged.
01:41:37.000 I mean, it's not going to be bridged in one instant application that's an injection of nanoparticles into your body that allows you to interface your retina and your visual cortex with the World Wide Web as distributed through government Wi-Fi.
01:41:51.000 I mean, that's probably 100 years from now or whatever it is, 10 years from now, who knows how things get crazy?
01:41:57.000 Probably tomorrow.
01:41:57.000 Probably next week.
01:41:58.000 But the Google Glass is the bridge.
01:42:01.000 I mean, there's got to be a Google Glass and there's got to be a Google Contact Lens and there's got to be something else.
01:42:07.000 It's going to happen just like we went from the brick phone.
01:42:11.000 They were in the rap videos and everybody was bawling. 0.79
01:42:14.000 They had that big ass brick phone. 1.00
01:42:15.000 Yeah, bitch, I'm talking to you and you ain't nowhere near me. 1.00
01:42:18.000 Saved by the bell. 1.00
01:42:19.000 Zach Morris phone.
01:42:20.000 Or the ones that were in the suitcase.
01:42:22.000 That was another cool invention.
01:42:24.000 With a cord.
01:42:24.000 It was a corded phone in a suitcase.
01:42:26.000 Hello, I'm walking down the street on the phone.
01:42:30.000 That's how important I am.
01:42:32.000 And people would get real angry and uppity when they would see those.
01:42:36.000 They didn't like it.
01:42:37.000 People get upset.
01:42:38.000 I could see that.
01:42:39.000 They didn't like it. 1.00
01:42:40.000 Look at this fucking asshole with his fucking phone coming out of his suitcase. 1.00
01:42:43.000 You should be using your phone for your home. 1.00
01:42:45.000 Why don't you go get a job? 1.00
01:42:46.000 Get a fucking job, you homo. 1.00
01:42:49.000 Walking around with your phone. 1.00
01:42:51.000 But now it's so small. 0.99
01:42:53.000 I mean, they're sliding into pockets and you open them up and they fucking show you the world. 1.00
01:42:58.000 And I think no one who had one of those stupid brick phones ever saw that coming. 1.00
01:43:03.000 Nah. 1.00
01:43:04.000 No, definitely not.
01:43:05.000 And that's a bridge that's been gapped in my lifetime through my memory.
01:43:10.000 Yeah, and I'm 100% aware of when it happened.
01:43:14.000 I had a cell phone in 1989. I had a cell phone in my car.
01:43:20.000 Wait, like a car phone?
01:43:22.000 Yeah, I had a car phone.
01:43:24.000 Wait, would it...
01:43:24.000 How would that work?
01:43:26.000 Cigarette lighter?
01:43:27.000 It was stuck into the car.
01:43:29.000 It was installed in the car itself.
01:43:30.000 It had buttons right there.
01:43:32.000 Well, it was a girl that I was dating.
01:43:35.000 I wound up buying the car from her.
01:43:37.000 And her parents bought her a car, but she got a standard, like a stick shift.
01:43:42.000 She hated it.
01:43:42.000 Didn't know how to drive?
01:43:43.000 She hated driving a standard.
01:43:45.000 And so I was dating her at the time, so I wound up taking the car and then eventually paying her for it.
01:43:50.000 But it was like she installed this car phone.
01:43:54.000 Would you make a habit of taking calls from it?
01:43:58.000 No, no, no.
01:43:59.000 You can't. 1.00
01:43:59.000 It was stupid, stupid expensive. 1.00
01:44:01.000 And it was like right after it all happened, like we started breaking up. 1.00
01:44:04.000 So it was like she couldn't even drive the car, so I was driving the car.
01:44:08.000 Sending her money for it.
01:44:09.000 The whole thing was a disaster.
01:44:10.000 Okay, so the lesson learned is never buy a car with a car phone.
01:44:14.000 Yeah.
01:44:14.000 Well, no, at the time it was a ridiculous thing to have, but it was pretty crazy.
01:44:17.000 I don't remember why she wound up getting a phone.
01:44:21.000 No one needed it at the time.
01:44:23.000 There was only like a few people that I even knew that I'd ever seen one at the time.
01:44:27.000 There was a guy named Jackie Flynn.
01:44:28.000 Do you know who Jackie Flynn is?
01:44:30.000 Jackie Flynn's a comic.
01:44:31.000 He's been in a bunch of the Farrelly Brothers movies.
01:44:33.000 Very funny guy.
01:44:33.000 He was the first guy that I ever saw that had a car phone.
01:44:36.000 I was like, this is the craziest fucking thing ever. 0.98
01:44:38.000 This guy can just call people. 0.99
01:44:40.000 Anytime he wants. 0.99
01:44:41.000 But it's stupid expensive. 0.99
01:44:43.000 And it wouldn't work everywhere. 0.99
01:44:45.000 You would drive down the street.
01:44:46.000 It wasn't like now. 0.54
01:44:47.000 It's odd to get shitty service.
01:44:50.000 Then it was fairly standard. 0.99
01:44:52.000 Most of the time, you got shit service. 0.97
01:44:53.000 If you're driving, you're constantly going in and out of services. 0.99
01:44:56.000 You'd pull over to the side of the road and just wait.
01:45:00.000 You'd keep driving until you got good enough service, then immediately pull over.
01:45:03.000 Yeah, that was a big one.
01:45:05.000 Especially if it's an important call.
01:45:07.000 To this day, you can't go over Laurel Canyon if you've got something to say.
01:45:11.000 You can't trust it.
01:45:13.000 For sure, with everybody's phone, there's going to be a bump in the road.
01:45:17.000 I'm still learning about this whole LA thing.
01:45:19.000 The 405. Don't fuck around the 405. When you come over that hill, when you're going into the valley, if you're coming from Santa Monica and you're going over that hill, prepare for death. 1.00
01:45:27.000 There's no cell phone coverage when you go over that hump.
01:45:30.000 I don't know why they can't fix that. 1.00
01:45:32.000 You know it's their stupid. 1.00
01:45:33.000 It's the 21st century. 1.00
01:45:34.000 Not only that, they're building a 19-lane highway up there. 0.97
01:45:37.000 I mean, the highway is fucking enormous. 0.74
01:45:39.000 It's the biggest highway you've ever seen in your life. 0.97
01:45:42.000 I don't know how many lanes it is.
01:45:44.000 It's insane.
01:45:45.000 They're so big.
01:45:46.000 I grew up in Boston, and the first time I came to California, I went to Bellflower.
01:45:52.000 I took a ride down to Bellflower, which is down the 405 and to the 91. But I couldn't believe how big the highway was.
01:46:02.000 I couldn't believe it.
01:46:03.000 I was driving.
01:46:03.000 I was like, this is insane.
01:46:05.000 The amount of concrete.
01:46:06.000 Because all those old Boston highways were all like four lanes.
01:46:10.000 Two up, two back.
01:46:11.000 That's it.
01:46:12.000 These things were giant, like multiple lanes, five, six, seven lanes on each side.
01:46:17.000 See, you guys know what you're doing here with the car thing.
01:46:19.000 Oh, there's just too many people!
01:46:21.000 And that's why self-driving cars will change everything.
01:46:22.000 I'm telling you, is there going to ever be...
01:46:24.000 There is, purportedly...
01:46:25.000 I'm a New York guy now, so I love my public transportation.
01:46:28.000 Do you guys...
01:46:29.000 Is that...
01:46:29.000 It's non-existent.
01:46:30.000 It's not happening.
01:46:31.000 It's non-existent.
01:46:32.000 Isn't there supposed to be a bus in some ways?
01:46:34.000 I've done it.
01:46:34.000 It depends where you want to go.
01:46:35.000 Like, I live in Burbank, and so there's, like, right in North Hollywood, there's a station.
01:46:39.000 You can take it, pretty much drop your car off, and go right to the Staples Center.
01:46:43.000 So if there was an event at the Staples Center, you could just go in and out.
01:46:46.000 But other than that, the problem is they don't have it good...
01:46:49.000 Like, they don't have it in Santa Monica.
01:46:51.000 They don't have, like, the beach towns.
01:46:52.000 And it's...
01:46:53.000 It's just not as cool.
01:46:55.000 It's not good.
01:46:57.000 The city is so spread out.
01:47:01.000 California is so spread out.
01:47:02.000 And people are not really into the idea of being in a car with a bunch of other people.
01:47:08.000 Everybody's so self-important out here and so non-integrated.
01:47:12.000 It's one of the things I was thinking of when I was starting to raise my kids.
01:47:18.000 I was thinking, maybe my kids would probably do better if they lived somewhere like New York, where they kind of had to interface with people all the time on a regular basis, a bunch of different strangers all the time.
01:47:28.000 Whereas California, where everybody's like, we go from one box into another box, and occasionally we see people that step out of their boxes, and then they go in their boxes, and we all go our separate way.
01:47:37.000 Whereas in New York, everybody's sort of like meshing.
01:47:39.000 Bumping in.
01:47:40.000 Boston too.
01:47:41.000 Yeah.
01:47:41.000 Less in Boston.
01:47:42.000 Would you ever move back east?
01:47:43.000 No, it's too cold.
01:47:45.000 Wow. 0.98
01:47:45.000 It's too ridiculous. 0.98
01:47:46.000 Wow, you're just... 1.00
01:47:47.000 Wrong kind of cold.
01:47:48.000 Okay.
01:47:48.000 That wet cold.
01:47:49.000 Yeah.
01:47:49.000 Colorado dry cold, I like.
01:47:51.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:47:51.000 That wet cold is ridiculous. 0.96
01:47:52.000 See, I was born and raised on the East Coast, man. 0.84
01:47:56.000 I don't know if I could ever...
01:47:57.000 I could never give it up. 0.98
01:47:58.000 Oh, that's so ridiculous. 0.93
01:48:00.000 I lived in San Francisco for two minutes. 0.99
01:48:01.000 If it fell into the ocean, you'd still stay alive.
01:48:03.000 I'd stay...
01:48:04.000 Oh, well.
01:48:04.000 You'd figure out a way.
01:48:05.000 I'd find a way.
01:48:06.000 Yeah.
01:48:06.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:48:07.000 Yeah, all right.
01:48:08.000 But I... I just never...
01:48:11.000 I don't know.
01:48:11.000 And there's so much...
01:48:12.000 Obviously, there's so much in tech going on in San Francisco.
01:48:14.000 And actually, LA's tech scene.
01:48:15.000 Not too shabby.
01:48:16.000 Not too shabby.
01:48:17.000 Well, Snapchat's the one everyone talks about right now. 0.99
01:48:19.000 That's all dick pics. 1.00
01:48:20.000 Fueled by vaginas and... 1.00
01:48:22.000 Tinder is huge. 0.99
01:48:23.000 Tinder is LA as well.
01:48:24.000 I hate Snapchat.
01:48:25.000 What do you think about Snapchat?
01:48:27.000 It pisses me off.
01:48:28.000 I tried using it for a minute, but I just don't.
01:48:31.000 Does it get to a point that, just like every kind of technology, you get to a certain age that you start not getting it?
01:48:36.000 Oh, maybe that's what it is.
01:48:37.000 Because that's definitely what it is.
01:48:39.000 Because at the college store, every kid's Snapchatting all the things.
01:48:43.000 Every girl I know is Snapchatting.
01:48:44.000 Yeah, people like it.
01:48:46.000 Whatever.
01:48:46.000 I don't get it.
01:48:46.000 It's fine.
01:48:47.000 People look for fun shit to do on their phone. 0.87
01:48:50.000 And if something comes along, it gives you a time limit on a picture. 0.97
01:48:54.000 Woo! 1.00
01:48:54.000 There's my asshole! 1.00
01:48:55.000 Woo! 1.00
01:48:57.000 You motherfucker, you took a screenshot! 1.00
01:48:59.000 Let me know! 1.00
01:49:01.000 It's even close to home, Joe.
01:49:02.000 It doesn't have to. 1.00
01:49:03.000 First of all, people are so stupid. 1.00
01:49:05.000 All you have to do is take a picture of the fucking screen with a camera. 1.00
01:49:08.000 That's really meta. 1.00
01:49:09.000 It's so dumb. 0.99
01:49:10.000 You don't really need to snapshot it. 0.99
01:49:13.000 Nothing goes away anymore.
01:49:15.000 You can't send it to someone and hope it goes away.
01:49:17.000 First rule, assume if it is digital, it is everywhere. 0.99
01:49:19.000 And then the second rule is assume there's a photo of you online somewhere someone has photoshopped a dick in your mouth. 0.98
01:49:24.000 And now even more with this new heartbleed exploit that's going on that the government made. 0.99
01:49:29.000 I mean, a hacker made.
01:49:30.000 Oh, that's good.
01:49:31.000 That's what I was going to ask you.
01:49:32.000 I forgot.
01:49:33.000 What percentage of people on Reddit are government disinformation agents that are designed to interrupt conversations and turn the tide?
01:49:42.000 On climate control.
01:49:43.000 Let's say if you go to Reddit, what, the climate control arguments?
01:49:46.000 Actually, one of the subs, I don't remember, because every subreddit is its own forum, its own community with its own moderators.
01:49:52.000 One of them actually banned climate deniers.
01:49:56.000 Like, they basically said, we're not going to...
01:49:57.000 And then, you know, what typically happens is, this is like any WordPress blog deciding, hey, we're no longer going to post stories about blah. 0.96
01:50:03.000 So if people really want it, they go and create a new subreddit and they're like, fuck you guys, we're creating real politics or really real politics or whatever it is.
01:50:10.000 So it's a robust enough system that new things rise. 0.95
01:50:15.000 So they'll ban climate deniers from one forum, but the climate deniers can open up their own forum as well.
01:50:21.000 Creating a subreddit is really like creating a WordPress blog, but you're part of a much larger network.
01:50:26.000 And so every subreddit has its own moderation team, like Snoop, for instance, is a moderator of rtrees.
01:50:32.000 That's ridiculous.
01:50:33.000 Snoop moderates? 0.99
01:50:34.000 Yeah, that's dope.
01:50:35.000 He's active, quite active.
01:50:37.000 It is dope.
01:50:39.000 That's about as dope as it gets, right?
01:50:41.000 It's pretty spectacular.
01:50:42.000 But like, people can create these sort of forms in these communities and run them as they see fit, and if people don't like it, they create another one.
01:50:50.000 Dude, that's amazing.
01:50:51.000 But on the whole, we work really, really, really hard to mitigate sort of ring voting and cheating to try to goose up stories or goose down don'ts.
01:51:02.000 I'm sure as soon as Reddit became as 200-whatever million people, as soon as it became as large as it was...
01:51:08.000 Or at some point it tipped over and people realized it is in our best interest to be here. 0.79
01:51:13.000 Now there are always there the social media douchebags who are upvoting all their garbage marketing content. 1.00
01:51:18.000 But I'm sure. 0.96
01:51:19.000 I'd be naive to say that there weren't states trying to help encourage some content and discourage others.
01:51:27.000 But like I said, we work really hard.
01:51:29.000 There's no perfect system.
01:51:31.000 But I'm sure people are trying.
01:51:33.000 But the vast majority of people are just...
01:51:35.000 Yeah, I agree with you.
01:51:37.000 I think there's always going to be someone who tries to do that, but you're dealing with the numbers of humans are so great.
01:51:45.000 It would be really difficult for someone to subvert that system as a clandestine group trying to intercept ideas.
01:51:53.000 Throw disinformation into them. 1.00
01:51:54.000 There's just so many really smart people out there that can see through bullshit and that will post contradicting information and show what's wrong with this and then spend a lot of time to make you look stupid. 1.00
01:52:08.000 Those guys are good at it, man. 0.99
01:52:10.000 There's some fucking awesome discussions, whether it's on Reddit or I have a message board that's been around since 1998. You're an OG, man. 0.97
01:52:19.000 You know exactly...
01:52:20.000 In this form, as a V-bulletin, it's been around since 2001. Right on.
01:52:26.000 And it's not the best system, though.
01:52:29.000 It's a good system.
01:52:30.000 It's easy to go back and read.
01:52:32.000 But it's not the best system as far as getting the best stuff to rise to the top.
01:52:36.000 It's like the Reddit system of vote-ups and vote-downs.
01:52:40.000 It seems to be a really good way of...
01:52:44.000 Eradicating shitty ideas or at least non, you know, non-unanimous opinions or opinions that unanimously voted against.
01:52:56.000 Do you know, guys, check out our Joe Rogan. 0.87
01:52:59.000 I wonder, I imagine there's an active Joe Rogan song.
01:53:02.000 Oh, yeah.
01:53:03.000 There's Joe Rogan Experiences, which I always roll on, and then there's, here's Joe Rogan Experience, which is pretty good.
01:53:10.000 There's, uh, I think 21,000 people that do it.
01:53:15.000 Oh, snap. 0.99
01:53:15.000 And so subscribers, you know, those are like Twitter followers, right? 0.99
01:53:18.000 So subscribers are about maybe a tenth of the actual people looking.
01:53:21.000 Because only about a tenth will be subscribed.
01:53:23.000 So there's probably about 200,000.
01:53:25.000 So almost a quarter million.
01:53:26.000 Now, how do you keep someone from, like, say, if someone was on Reddit and they were posting something about an ex-girlfriend or being rude about information or photos, how do you stop that stuff from happening?
01:53:40.000 Well, I mean, it depends on the situation, right?
01:53:43.000 Like, Reddit as a platform, like Twitter, doesn't actually...
01:53:48.000 Actually, no, Twitter does host.
01:53:49.000 Sorry.
01:53:50.000 So, Reddit does not host content.
01:53:52.000 So I guess we host text, but we don't host images or video.
01:53:56.000 So oftentimes those things will be on YouTube or Imgur, and we're kind of like a traffic sign or like a map to it.
01:54:03.000 But we can't do anything about the actual content.
01:54:06.000 And in the event of content that's posted, the generally accepted rule is if it is legal, then we will let it stand.
01:54:14.000 And Like I said, every subreddit gets moderated.
01:54:19.000 So the vast majority of them are moderated such that garbage content like that.
01:54:24.000 On your forum, you wouldn't want a bunch of garbage content floating up like that that wasn't adding any value.
01:54:29.000 And so you have the opportunity to, as a moderator, ban it.
01:54:33.000 But as a general platform, the thinking is if it is legal, we're okay with it.
01:54:39.000 Even if, you know, in some instances it is distasteful, the vast majority of the content is just harmless or good.
01:54:46.000 It's also, I feel like with a lot of the distasteful stuff that people are getting really upset about, I think that it's one of those things that the human race is just going to have to go through.
01:54:54.000 It's like a phase or a stage in this integration with information that we're going through.
01:55:00.000 There's still anonymity.
01:55:02.000 And the anonymity is something that people cherish.
01:55:05.000 They cherish their quote-unquote privacy and their rights to privacy.
01:55:09.000 And they have all these ideas about it.
01:55:10.000 But that's going to be like saying you don't want to see people anymore.
01:55:14.000 It's really what it's going to be like.
01:55:15.000 I reserve the light to not see people.
01:55:17.000 Okay.
01:55:17.000 Well, if you go in the woods and go deep, deep, deep, deep, deep in the woods where there's no people, you cannot see people.
01:55:23.000 However, if you want to be in cities, you're going to have to see people. 1.00
01:55:27.000 Fuck! 1.00
01:55:27.000 And that's sort of what's going to happen when it comes to people being assholes online. 1.00
01:55:32.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:55:33.000 It's not going to be as simple as you're hiding behind DuckTuck69, you know, that's your name, and you're distributing all sorts of nasty, evil shit. 0.99
01:55:43.000 And then, what did you think about, here's a good example, that one guy that he was on Reddit and he was like, apparently he was very rude and put a lot of nasty shit on, they found out who he was. 0.99
01:55:55.000 Mm-hmm. 0.93
01:55:55.000 And he got fired from his job and it turned out like this is a guy who's got a family and he had to support them and now he's like been publicly shamed. 0.93
01:56:03.000 What was your feeling on that?
01:56:06.000 Well, which part?
01:56:08.000 Like, you know what?
01:56:09.000 The price you pay for freedom or for the freedom to post stuff is to have to take responsibility for it as a content creator.
01:56:19.000 And, you know, it's like at the end of the day, you know, you create the soapbox.
01:56:23.000 So like we created a kind of soapbox or a printing press or a hammer, right?
01:56:27.000 Like any kind of tool.
01:56:28.000 And so at the end of the day, we're not responsible for what Ultimately, someone does with a hammer or a printing press, the vast majority of which is good, sometimes cannot be.
01:56:38.000 And he essentially paid the price for that.
01:56:44.000 And it's frustrating because...
01:56:48.000 On the whole, the vast majority of people who pick up that hammer are, you know, like any random Twitter user or any random person, like just being reasonable, normal people.
01:56:58.000 And some of them aren't.
01:57:00.000 And, you know, it's a matter of saying, you know what, we want to have this be that open platform.
01:57:06.000 There's no, fundamentally, there's no way to stop or police every single thing that gets done in real time.
01:57:13.000 We make our best effort, and when on occasion there are things that are illegal, we Well, we do what we need to do. 1.00
01:57:18.000 Well, apparently this guy was a real douchebag online, just a real asshole and rude. 0.98
01:57:24.000 And so people sort of justified that he could be taken down because of that. 0.99
01:57:30.000 But in his defense, and it's a sketchy defense, what I would say is that if the precedent's been set, and the precedent is anonymity, And there's some people that get a charge out of using that anonymity to poke at people and be rude and nasty,
01:57:48.000 and they get some weird sort of sick charge out of it.
01:57:51.000 Okay, yes, they definitely are causing discomfort.
01:57:54.000 Yes, they are definitely probably quote-unquote cyber harassing.
01:57:58.000 But that precedent of anonymity is very strange because... 0.98
01:58:03.000 Once we've established sort of what we think is going to be the standard reaction to these things, people are going to get upset, they're going to ban screen names, but what they're not going to do is find out who you are and then go to your employer and expose all your shit. 0.79
01:58:15.000 And once that does happen, it's like, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. 0.94
01:58:18.000 I thought we were playing a game.
01:58:20.000 He might have gotten out of hand, but he probably thought at least part of it was him playing this game that was afforded to him by anonymity and probably what we understand the laws to be.
01:58:35.000 The real...
01:58:36.000 So one of the things that is generally accepted is this idea of not...
01:58:42.000 The challenge is...
01:58:44.000 So this is pseudonymity, that he had a pseudonym.
01:58:48.000 He did not, or any one of us who goes online to use a pseudonym, still has some kind of a persona online.
01:58:56.000 And they probably use that account elsewhere, or maybe they don't.
01:59:00.000 But there's some acceptance in this new world that like...
01:59:05.000 All of, one can find out almost anything about sort of publicly available stuff about us with enough searching, with enough sleuthing, with enough phone calls, with enough tenacity, right?
01:59:15.000 Every investigative journalist has been doing this forever.
01:59:16.000 But like, there is this challenge that like, there is no, there is no easy answer for this because ultimately there is going to be, right?
01:59:25.000 That's going to show up as a website.
01:59:27.000 It's going to show up as blah, blah, real identity.com.
01:59:30.000 And some really determined person is going to create that thing.
01:59:33.000 That's going to out whatever it is.
01:59:34.000 And there aren't, Very clear laws around this, just because it hasn't really...
01:59:40.000 I mean, there's no precedent for it.
01:59:42.000 And so for the time being, it becomes, you know, try as much as possible to discourage this idea of like, quote unquote, doxing.
01:59:50.000 But there's no...
01:59:51.000 Why do they call it doxing?
01:59:53.000 I actually don't know the etymology of it, but like to find the documents around, I presume, I don't actually know.
01:59:59.000 And that's the kind of phrase for it.
02:00:02.000 But it's a matter of figuring that out.
02:00:04.000 And I'm not, I think we are still as a society figuring that out.
02:00:09.000 Because it...
02:00:11.000 But we like trolls in a way.
02:00:13.000 People like funny trolls.
02:00:15.000 I like some trolls on my message board.
02:00:18.000 I've got some people on my message board that are just hilarious.
02:00:21.000 And it's so tough to draw that distinction because I know what you're talking about.
02:00:24.000 It's a kind of a game they're playing.
02:00:26.000 And the kind of a game is they're trying to piss people off.
02:00:29.000 And they're trying to get people to argue with them.
02:00:32.000 And sometimes they'll argue both sides.
02:00:35.000 They're having fun.
02:00:37.000 And some people take it real deep. 0.99
02:00:40.000 Just like I was saying that if Stan Hope was in the room and I was on stage talking shit, I might say something extra fucked up just to make him laugh. 0.99
02:00:46.000 I think they do that with each other as well. 0.99
02:00:49.000 And I'm not saying that it's all innocent.
02:00:50.000 But I am saying that if you do look at it all... 0.82
02:00:54.000 Honestly and objectively, you've got to leave room for the entertainment value of people fucking with people on the internet. 0.69
02:00:59.000 Because there's something to it.
02:01:01.000 Yeah, and there is...
02:01:02.000 Look, there's a precedent for this, right?
02:01:04.000 In meatspace, like hecklers, for instance.
02:01:06.000 Right?
02:01:06.000 Like there is...
02:01:07.000 Meatspace?
02:01:08.000 That's what you call it?
02:01:08.000 Yeah, as opposed to cyberspace.
02:01:10.000 Love it.
02:01:10.000 Like there's a precedent for this.
02:01:12.000 And I think there is... 0.98
02:01:14.000 And one thing I should stress is that just having a real identity does not stop people from being assholes on the internet. 0.98
02:01:21.000 Facebook is a perfect example, right? 0.98
02:01:22.000 You can have your photo, your full name.
02:01:24.000 And trust me, we've all seen those screenshots.
02:01:26.000 Maybe we've even seen them on our friend's post.
02:01:28.000 But, like, people say some awful, offensive, horrible stuff on Facebook with their name next to it. 1.00
02:01:34.000 They say some unbelievably dumb shit, too. 1.00
02:01:36.000 So having a real ID will not stop people from being obnoxious or stupid or, you know, whatever adjective. 1.00
02:01:43.000 Well, I don't think it'll stop them. 0.96
02:01:44.000 But what it will do is open them up for the consequences of such behavior that they may have been unaware of.
02:01:50.000 And that's what the interaction that the internet provides to the average douche wad from 20 years ago never experienced.
02:01:57.000 You're not going to experience... 0.99
02:01:59.000 If you're just one of those guys that has some fucking racist thing that you spout out in your neighborhood and nobody calls you on it... 0.98
02:02:06.000 You know, maybe because you're big or maybe because you're important. 0.99
02:02:10.000 Maybe it's because of the neighborhood. 1.00
02:02:11.000 But if you put that shit on your Facebook page and someone takes a photo of it and then puts it on Reddit, boom, Sherlock, lock, boom. 1.00
02:02:18.000 It's coming at you, son. 1.00
02:02:20.000 Fucking thousands of people you never met calling you a cunt, saying they know where you live, saying they're going to find you and smack the shit out of you, saying they're going to shit in your mouth and hold it down. 1.00
02:02:30.000 That's really specific. 1.00
02:02:31.000 People fucking get specific. 0.98
02:02:34.000 But then, of course, they get in trouble for violence and threats because that becomes non-anonymous as well. 0.99
02:02:39.000 That's why you should make a real value on karma points so then people wouldn't be dicks and they could actually get something, you know...
02:02:44.000 How could you have a real value?
02:02:45.000 What would they exchange it for US dollars?
02:02:47.000 I don't know.
02:02:48.000 Make it exchange for bitcoins or angels and demons.
02:02:51.000 What do you think about bitcoin?
02:02:53.000 You feel like Bitcoin is like...
02:02:55.000 What do you feel?
02:02:56.000 I'm actually an investor in a couple of Bitcoin stocks.
02:02:59.000 I know it!
02:03:00.000 They're one of them!
02:03:01.000 I'm pretty bullish.
02:03:02.000 I'm not at the 10 level where this is end of governments, end of states.
02:03:09.000 But I think I'm most interested in the fact that Right.
02:03:28.000 Right.
02:03:29.000 Right.
02:03:29.000 Right.
02:03:36.000 And so much of the financial system has a lot of revenue tied into moving ones and zeros.
02:03:45.000 Cryptocurrency, whether it's Bitcoin or whether it's Dogecoin or whether it's whatever coin, is going to be...
02:03:52.000 Really?
02:03:52.000 Of course there is.
02:03:53.000 How's the Kardashian coin?
02:03:55.000 Wasn't there a Kim Kardashian coin?
02:03:56.000 I don't know how to talk about it on this podcast.
02:03:58.000 All right.
02:03:58.000 Oh, Kim.
02:04:01.000 Pride of the Armenian people. 1.00
02:04:03.000 Well, listen, you can't deny the ass. 0.99
02:04:06.000 That is undeniable. 0.99
02:04:08.000 The whole thing's a mess, but hey, what are you going to do?
02:04:10.000 It's part of what makes us fun.
02:04:12.000 I think part of what makes people fun is our folly. 1.00
02:04:15.000 I think if we were all beautiful and perfect and Dalai Lama-esque, come on, man, a bunch of people wearing orange everywhere and no one's getting their dick sucked. 1.00
02:04:21.000 It would be ridiculous. 1.00
02:04:23.000 It would be boring. 0.82
02:04:23.000 That does not sound like fun at all. 0.82
02:04:25.000 Exactly.
02:04:25.000 There'd be no freakness.
02:04:27.000 People like that, wrong or right, they provide that extra ha-ha! 1.00
02:04:32.000 That extra stupidity to life that makes the flavor. 1.00
02:04:35.000 It's just like a hint of basil in a stew that just makes the whole thing. 1.00
02:04:39.000 You can get by without the basil, but...
02:04:42.000 It just adds something to it. 1.00
02:04:43.000 Yeah, the ridiculous fucking dance that we... 1.00
02:04:45.000 A lot of notes are involved in this ridiculous dance. 1.00
02:04:48.000 All of it together is beautiful, though. 0.78
02:04:51.000 Wow, the symphony of life.
02:04:52.000 Symphony of life.
02:04:53.000 Bittersweet as it may be.
02:04:55.000 Joe Rogan on Kim Kardashian.
02:04:58.000 But yes, bullish on cryptocurrencies.
02:05:01.000 I think it's going to be real interesting.
02:05:04.000 Do you know Andreas Antonopoulos?
02:05:07.000 I feel like I should know that.
02:05:08.000 Well, you should.
02:05:08.000 He is the Jesus of Bitcoin.
02:05:11.000 Oh?
02:05:11.000 He will be on the podcast again on the 22nd.
02:05:14.000 Oh, excellent.
02:05:14.000 And he said he's been preparing for you, Brian.
02:05:17.000 Are you a skeptic?
02:05:18.000 Brian threw some surprise curveballs at him.
02:05:22.000 I did?
02:05:23.000 No, not really.
02:05:27.000 Brian's skeptical about Bitcoin more than I am.
02:05:30.000 The weird thing is that I don't like how your IP address is public any time you make it.
02:05:35.000 They say it's not.
02:05:36.000 It is, though.
02:05:37.000 But apparently, I don't know.
02:05:39.000 But according to them, they say there's ways that it's not.
02:05:43.000 Let's find out right now.
02:05:44.000 And immediately after he gave me some Bitcoin, some other person just...
02:05:48.000 Gave me some bitcoins.
02:05:49.000 I'm like, alright, so somebody's now stalking me because I got some bitcoins.
02:05:53.000 But they're giving you...
02:05:54.000 You know what I mean?
02:05:55.000 Where did this person just immediately come...
02:05:57.000 But they're just giving you money.
02:05:58.000 Is this guy just tracking every number? 1.00
02:06:00.000 Don't be a pussy. 1.00
02:06:01.000 Guy's trying to give you some money. 1.00
02:06:02.000 And then with the tracking of the IP address, I feel like that there's just some weird...
02:06:06.000 There's something going on that I don't know about.
02:06:08.000 And I don't like it.
02:06:10.000 Like, the IP address thing freaks me out.
02:06:12.000 Alright, here it says, doing so might leak the fact that you are using Bitcoin Fog, but no other details.
02:06:18.000 Okay, so there's ways around it.
02:06:20.000 Bitcoin Fog is a way around it, apparently.
02:06:24.000 Yeah.
02:06:25.000 Sure.
02:06:26.000 There's a way around it.
02:06:27.000 Yeah, for the highest level anonymity, you need Tor.
02:06:32.000 You will need Tor.
02:06:33.000 Tor is an open source anonymization network.
02:06:41.000 For a short overview, the tour browser bundle.
02:06:44.000 So now the only people that know what you're doing is this company that's anonymous.
02:06:48.000 Hey, the government.
02:06:50.000 No, no, no.
02:06:51.000 Tour's legit.
02:06:52.000 Tour's legit. 0.99
02:06:53.000 You say so, but when the fucking tour train comes crashing off the fucking train and into the woods, where are you going to be? 1.00
02:06:59.000 I'll tell you where you're going to be. 1.00
02:07:00.000 You're going to be selling books.
02:07:01.000 Here is.
02:07:02.000 Without their permission by Alexis Hohanian.
02:07:05.000 What's the name of it?
02:07:06.000 Oh, thank you.
02:07:06.000 Yeah, there's no title on the cover, just the symbols, man.
02:07:09.000 Without their permission.
02:07:12.000 But real talk...
02:07:13.000 Is this the name of the book, Without Their Permission?
02:07:14.000 Yeah.
02:07:15.000 Oh yeah.
02:07:16.000 The real talk though, you know, there is...
02:07:20.000 Are you going to be real right now?
02:07:21.000 Oh yeah.
02:07:21.000 You keeping it real?
02:07:22.000 This technology, Tor, is amazeballs.
02:07:25.000 It is the thing, when you hear about Chinese dissidents who are looking at Tiananmen Square Massacre photos, right, even though there's the Great Firewall, it's because of Tor. 0.78
02:07:32.000 Whoa.
02:07:33.000 Really?
02:07:34.000 And this is, I mean, it's been, like, it is, it really is one of those pure forms of, so it's open source software, right, so you can take a look at the source anytime for...
02:07:43.000 You know, not only improving it, but also just sort of promoting that transparency.
02:07:47.000 But it's the thing that lets us actually get through any of the states that want to try their hardest.
02:07:54.000 I mean, China's spent a lot of money and a lot of time and a lot of smart people trying to keep the internet down. 0.85
02:07:58.000 But thanks to Tor and Resourceful Humans, you know, they lose. 0.83
02:08:02.000 That's pretty fucking badass. 0.99
02:08:04.000 I love hearing shit like that. 0.99
02:08:05.000 That's such an interesting thing when something comes along that just is built by people smarter than the oppressors. 0.99
02:08:12.000 And not a business.
02:08:13.000 It's an open source project.
02:08:14.000 It's like a bunch of people got their Lego...
02:08:16.000 Software is best explained as...
02:08:17.000 Well, maybe not best, but I like explaining it as like Legos.
02:08:20.000 And so a bunch of people through the internet with pseudonyms who maybe never even met each other in real life brought together their digital Lego kits to build something cool that no one had built before that now lets anyone, like I said, open...
02:08:31.000 Openly surf the internet in spite of some of the most powerful and repressive states in the world. 0.96
02:08:36.000 What did you think when that older Japanese gentleman who they credited with creating Bitcoin but apparently maybe didn't and they really hounded this fucking guy and Waited outside his house and knocked on his door. 0.98
02:08:50.000 This is scary stuff. 0.98
02:08:52.000 It seemed like some rather excessive journalism, to say the least.
02:08:56.000 Well, not just excessive, but incorrect harassment.
02:09:00.000 But have they not?
02:09:01.000 I know they responded by saying, we're sticking to the story.
02:09:04.000 I don't know if they've since backed off of it.
02:09:06.000 Well, of course.
02:09:06.000 Why not stick to the story?
02:09:07.000 It's just some poor little man that you can fucking harass. 1.00
02:09:09.000 Even if he did encrypt it or whatever, figure it out, code it, if he did create Bitcoin or was one of the people who created Bitcoin, you'd have no right to hound him like that. 0.97
02:09:19.000 And he made it very clear.
02:09:20.000 He didn't want any attention.
02:09:22.000 He doesn't want anything.
02:09:23.000 And you're standing outside of his house, ringing his doorbell, sticking cameras in his face. 1.00
02:09:27.000 Fuck you, man. 1.00
02:09:29.000 You can't do that. 1.00
02:09:30.000 There's proper channels.
02:09:31.000 You send a letter or an email.
02:09:33.000 Would you like to be interviewed? 0.99
02:09:34.000 If not, leave him the fuck alone. 0.99
02:09:36.000 I don't know the story. 1.00
02:09:37.000 Yeah, what did the guy do that's so awful?
02:09:39.000 The guy came up with some sort of an algorithm to make an alternative currency. 0.99
02:09:42.000 So you think that you're okay to stick a fucking camera in his face and broadcast his image without his permission to the whole fucking world? 0.99
02:09:50.000 And now that they're not sure whether or not they're correct or not... 0.99
02:09:54.000 That's awkward. 0.98
02:09:55.000 God damn, it's awkward. 0.99
02:09:56.000 It seems like that guy should be getting paid. 0.99
02:09:59.000 What was his name?
02:10:00.000 Satoshi.
02:10:01.000 Satoshi.
02:10:02.000 I don't remember what his actual name was.
02:10:04.000 That was a pseudonym.
02:10:07.000 Yeah. 1.00
02:10:09.000 It's scary shit, man. 1.00
02:10:11.000 So you can mask the thing. 1.00
02:10:13.000 That's good.
02:10:14.000 But the thing that freaked me out, though, was how in private, sort of, I guess, somebody gave me some Bitcoins just to show me how to do it.
02:10:22.000 And then later that night, I just got...
02:10:24.000 And then so did Jamban.
02:10:27.000 Free money!
02:10:28.000 I know, but that freaks me out.
02:10:30.000 It's like, why are people just sending me money now that don't even know who I am based on my IP address?
02:10:34.000 They have a vested interest in you joining...
02:10:36.000 It's the kind of system that gets more valuable as more people join it and do business on it.
02:10:42.000 I mean, just like, you know, dollars, right?
02:10:43.000 I mean, dollars are a store that's valued over most parts of the world because people are cool doing business in it.
02:10:50.000 So, similar idea.
02:10:51.000 So, like, because it's still at the fore, everyone who's into this is pretty bullish on it.
02:10:58.000 And they want as many other people that they can get on.
02:11:00.000 I mean, what's crazy?
02:11:01.000 Well, all you have to do is have people involved that want it to work.
02:11:05.000 Legitimize it.
02:11:05.000 And it will work.
02:11:06.000 Yeah.
02:11:07.000 It's just going to take time.
02:11:09.000 And it's been...
02:11:10.000 The challenge for Bitcoin is now, is this going to be something people are going to be buying stuff in online?
02:11:15.000 So like Overstock made headlines.
02:11:17.000 They partnered with Coinbase, which is one of those companies I backed, by accepting Bitcoin.
02:11:22.000 And like, you know, processing non-trivial amounts of money.
02:11:24.000 People buying furniture in Bitcoin online.
02:11:27.000 Tiger Direct.
02:11:28.000 Tiger Direct doing it.
02:11:29.000 Are you guys taking Bitcoin donations?
02:11:31.000 No, we don't take donations.
02:11:33.000 Nope.
02:11:33.000 There's no...
02:11:34.000 No beggar.
02:11:34.000 Only you two.
02:11:35.000 Well, I don't want people to know my IP address.
02:11:37.000 I don't...
02:11:39.000 Take any donations.
02:11:41.000 Is it safe to put your Bitcoin IP address out to accept Bitcoins?
02:11:45.000 Meaning, like, I was thinking about doing it, but then I was like, wait, so then I have, people are like, no, you don't want to put your number out publicly.
02:11:52.000 Not your encrypted, this is, well, there is one you definitely do not want to share publicly.
02:11:58.000 Right.
02:11:58.000 But you can generate, so if you use Coinbase or use something else, you can generate a key that's free to distribute that people will use to give you currency.
02:12:07.000 Okay.
02:12:07.000 Yeah, it's very confusing for like that, because I think I almost put out my bad key out to everybody.
02:12:14.000 So then people can just take your bitcoins?
02:12:17.000 They take the value that's stored.
02:12:18.000 Yeah, like that Mt. 1.00
02:12:19.000 Gox shit. 0.99
02:12:20.000 I mean, that is one of the most hilarious stories of all time. 0.99
02:12:23.000 The fact that it's all Magic the Gathering online exchange and then from there it becomes one of the biggest Bitcoin exchanges on the internet and it's totally not coded correctly and people are just sticking knife holes into the bottom of the bag.
02:12:37.000 It's stealing blood to the point where hundreds of millions of dollars in Bitcoin is missing.
02:12:44.000 Yeah, kind of a cluster.
02:12:45.000 Who stole all that money?
02:12:46.000 Do you know?
02:12:47.000 You know what?
02:12:48.000 I'm not allowed to tell you guys.
02:12:50.000 Just dig guys.
02:12:51.000 There's plenty...
02:12:52.000 There's already plenty of internet speculation.
02:12:56.000 Well, it's weird because it seems like you should be able to track them.
02:13:00.000 It seems like you should be able to know where they are.
02:13:02.000 It seems like that's just another step that's missing from this equation that would make money all the more...
02:13:07.000 I mean, it would really make it all the more tangible if you could track it, if you know where it was.
02:13:12.000 I mean, you have...
02:13:14.000 I actually don't know the specifics of the Mt.
02:13:16.000 Gox heist, but generally speaking, any one of those transactions is a part of the public record.
02:13:23.000 Like, it's that much...
02:13:24.000 I mean, you don't know a lot about it, but you know that there's a...
02:13:26.000 So they just didn't know, or they didn't pay attention while it was going on?
02:13:28.000 No, I don't actually know the specifics of it.
02:13:30.000 I think the general consensus online was that it was some kind of an inside job as part of... 1.00
02:13:35.000 Inside job, that motherfucker. 1.00
02:13:38.000 I don't know. 1.00
02:13:38.000 He looks like he might be the inside jobby type. 1.00
02:13:42.000 Shifty looking fuck. 1.00
02:13:44.000 Where's my Bitcoins? 1.00
02:13:46.000 But here's the thing.
02:13:47.000 After all of those, there have been a number of quote unquote crashes and Bitcoin continues to persevere, continues to expand.
02:13:55.000 And ultimately, it may not be Bitcoin.
02:13:58.000 It may be another cryptocurrency.
02:14:00.000 And I mean, Dogecoin is an amazing community.
02:14:02.000 They sponsored a NASCAR at Talladega.
02:14:05.000 Really?
02:14:05.000 They got the Olympic, or they got the Jamaican bobsled team to the Olympics at Sochi.
02:14:11.000 True story.
02:14:12.000 Really?
02:14:12.000 Yeah, they did a big fundraiser on CrowdTilt.
02:14:14.000 Raised like 30 grand to Dogecoins.
02:14:15.000 Didn't they have a movie? 0.99
02:14:17.000 Wasn't Disney getting to the fucking Olympics? 1.00
02:14:19.000 How about you pitching Disney, you fucks? 1.00
02:14:22.000 Jesus, Disney. 1.00
02:14:24.000 Come on.
02:14:25.000 Boy, that was like a big thing for a while.
02:14:28.000 Everybody was making fun of the Jamaican bobsled team, how hilarious it was. 1.00
02:14:31.000 Then it just lost its novelty until Dogecoin comes along.
02:14:36.000 That's interesting.
02:14:37.000 So you're more bullish on Dogecoin than Bitcoin?
02:14:40.000 You know, I'm excited about cryptocurrency as a whole.
02:14:44.000 I think Bitcoin's certainly come the farthest in terms of mainstream.
02:14:48.000 There are random subways in Pennsylvania taking Dogecoins for your $5 footlong.
02:14:52.000 Really?
02:14:53.000 Yeah, but Doge is this satire that people are actually taking seriously.
02:15:00.000 It's very clearly a joke that everyone's in on, but in that spirit, lots of people are like, yeah, Yeah, look, it's taking the piss out of cryptocurrency.
02:15:08.000 And like, that's kind of funny.
02:15:09.000 And its mascot is a Shiba Inu.
02:15:11.000 And yeah, why not?
02:15:13.000 And it's bizarrely gotten momentum, in part, on the heels of this tipping system.
02:15:19.000 So like forever in a day, people have pitched...
02:15:23.000 Microtips.
02:15:25.000 Flatter was one, there was another one called TipJoy, where it was like, if you're a blogger, you're a podcaster, one of your users can come on and be like, that was cool, here's five cents.
02:15:33.000 And that was really the idea.
02:15:34.000 Saw a lot of pitches for this, none of them took off, for a variety of reasons.
02:15:38.000 What Dogecoin has been able to do, and it exists on Reddit, it exists on Twitter, is developers have created these tip bots.
02:15:45.000 So that if you say something cool on Reddit, you just type in a comment with this particular syntax, and it'll tell me, oh, look, Joe Rogan just tipped me 5,000 Dogecoins.
02:15:54.000 Now, that's actually not a lot of USD, but it feels like, hey, it's 5,000 things.
02:15:58.000 What is this?
02:15:59.000 Let me go collect it.
02:16:00.000 And, like, weirdly enough, it has gotten a lot of momentum, and so there are Twitter bots where people are routinely tipping each other in Doge.
02:16:08.000 Well, that's a nice sentiment.
02:16:10.000 I like the idea behind it.
02:16:11.000 But it's all this farce of, like, To the moon, which is the ultimate ambition of Dogecoin people.
02:16:18.000 It was originally a Bitcoin thing that has really been embraced by the Dogecoin community.
02:16:23.000 And I met people all over the country.
02:16:26.000 We were at University of Central Florida, and some students came up on stage with a giant Dogecoin...
02:16:33.000 It wasn't a check, but like equivalent of what it looked like one to present to me because they really wanted me on board with Dogecoin.
02:16:40.000 I guess that makes me a Shiba now. 0.83
02:16:43.000 Wow.
02:16:43.000 I have a dog that's half Shiba, you know.
02:16:45.000 Oh, there you go.
02:16:46.000 See?
02:16:46.000 Oh, wow.
02:16:47.000 When the Dogecoin community finds out about this, Joe, big deal.
02:16:50.000 This is going to be exciting.
02:16:51.000 It's a huge deal.
02:16:52.000 He's half bulldog, though. 0.99
02:16:53.000 He's a mess. 0.64
02:16:54.000 Poor little guy.
02:16:55.000 A bull Shib?
02:16:57.000 What would you call him?
02:16:57.000 I don't know.
02:17:00.000 Nice dog.
02:17:01.000 It's a sweetie.
02:17:02.000 It's very friendly.
02:17:03.000 You guys don't have a photo?
02:17:04.000 It's got arthritis.
02:17:05.000 Of my dog?
02:17:06.000 No.
02:17:06.000 I'm going to put pictures of my dogs up online.
02:17:09.000 You're using Instagram all wrong, man.
02:17:10.000 You're right.
02:17:11.000 I got a photo of my cat like every ten photos.
02:17:13.000 It's a good move.
02:17:13.000 Well, I put your picture up.
02:17:15.000 You're drawing.
02:17:15.000 That's not going to get you.
02:17:16.000 Oh, that'll get you a few upvotes. 0.94
02:17:18.000 Maybe two.
02:17:19.000 Something?
02:17:20.000 I don't care.
02:17:21.000 Whatever it works.
02:17:22.000 Whatever it gets.
02:17:24.000 When you look at the potential that places like Reddit and these information sort of distribution networks have, does it kind of freak you out that you're a part of that?
02:17:35.000 Like, you're a part of one of the biggest ones.
02:17:38.000 It weighs me out a little bit, just because I still think of it as a project.
02:17:42.000 My buddy and I just graduated from college.
02:17:44.000 We were eating pizza.
02:17:45.000 How many employees do you guys have now?
02:17:47.000 Reddit's up to 40. I'm on the board now, so I don't know for sure.
02:17:52.000 So you're outside, chilling, collecting fat checks.
02:17:54.000 It's not quite. 0.99
02:17:55.000 Driving around, grabbing your balls everywhere. 0.99
02:17:59.000 It is like you were a fly on my wall, Joe. 1.00
02:18:01.000 I know how you think.
02:18:02.000 I can tell guys like you.
02:18:04.000 You got a certain look about you.
02:18:06.000 One of them ball-grabbing, smiling dudes.
02:18:08.000 Just drive down the street.
02:18:10.000 It's like you're in my head, man.
02:18:12.000 Does it feel weird to be a part of it?
02:18:15.000 Do you feel like an obligation in any way?
02:18:18.000 I mean, I think the biggest obligation I felt was during, was it two years ago, these SOPA PIPA bills, these two awful bills that were going to break the internet.
02:18:28.000 What got me at the time, I was working on another startup called Hitmonk, a travel search website, and then the SOPA PIPA thing happened, and all my friends were like, Explain to people who don't know what Soba PIPA is, please.
02:18:41.000 The Stop Online Piracy Act and the Protect IP Act.
02:18:44.000 And the first is a House bill.
02:18:45.000 The second was a Senate bill.
02:18:48.000 The entertainment industry basically spent almost $100 million lobbying for these two bills to curb piracy.
02:18:54.000 That was the intent.
02:18:55.000 And that's what they said.
02:18:56.000 Except the lobbyists who wrote these bills were...
02:18:59.000 The bills were embarrassing in terms of how broad and overreach...
02:19:04.000 It was like a sledgehammer...
02:19:07.000 Yeah.
02:19:30.000 I borrowed a tie from my dad and I started going and lobbying and meeting with senators and representatives and telling them, look, I'm an entrepreneur.
02:19:37.000 I lived this amazing entrepreneurial life thanks to the open internet.
02:19:42.000 And if you pass either of these bills, my story never would have happened.
02:19:45.000 And so many others just like it never would have.
02:19:47.000 And you're really screwing up one of the most viable technologies we have.
02:19:50.000 And long story short, we won.
02:19:52.000 And I say we, and I mean hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people who called in, like melted the phone lines.
02:19:59.000 3,000 websites went dark on January 18th protesting this.
02:20:06.000 And it was amazing.
02:20:06.000 I'd never been a part of something like that that was so successful.
02:20:09.000 Those bills became toxic for anyone.
02:20:12.000 All these senators and representatives just ran away from them almost overnight.
02:20:16.000 Wow.
02:20:16.000 And we won.
02:20:17.000 Now, we haven't totally won because there's still lots of things that are hurting the internet.
02:20:21.000 But that's where I feel responsibility.
02:20:23.000 I feel responsible because I know how much this has benefited me.
02:20:27.000 And I get to see, like I said, I'm on the front lines as an investor these days.
02:20:30.000 I get to see the kids who are doing even cooler things.
02:20:33.000 We're going to do even bigger and better things.
02:20:35.000 And I don't want to lose that.
02:20:37.000 I don't want to miss out on so much innovation because we fuck it up.
02:20:42.000 Because it's partly that I feel indebted, but it's partly because I just want better stuff.
02:20:46.000 I want better music, and I want better politics, I want better technology, and the internet is a gateway for that.
02:20:52.000 Do you think the internet is safe?
02:20:54.000 Do you think it's passed through that?
02:20:55.000 No.
02:20:56.000 No?
02:20:56.000 Definitely not.
02:20:57.000 What could be done?
02:20:58.000 I mean, how do you stop this tide?
02:21:01.000 All right, so first and foremost, so net neutrality took a huge blow.
02:21:05.000 And let me say this.
02:21:06.000 Like, I'm fond of saying the world isn't flat.
02:21:09.000 Sorry, Tom Freeman, but the World Wide Web is.
02:21:12.000 And what that means is I can start a website with my buddy.
02:21:14.000 We have no connections.
02:21:15.000 We just have like an internet connection and some laptops.
02:21:18.000 And we can build something that nine years later will have more traffic than the New York Times or CNN. And that works because all bits are created equal.
02:21:26.000 You can get to my brand new website, reddit.com, you know, nine years ago, just as easily as newyorktimes.com.
02:21:31.000 And you get to decide, do I want to go to Reddit or do I want to go to New York Times?
02:21:34.000 It's just as easy to get to.
02:21:37.000 We're now in a position where cable companies, because they basically have oligopolies, right?
02:21:41.000 There's only a handful of them, want to break this.
02:21:45.000 They don't want the internet to be flat.
02:21:46.000 They want it to look like your cable.
02:21:48.000 They want you to have a basic package, right?
02:21:50.000 Where you get Bing search for free, because they've made a deal with Microsoft.
02:21:53.000 If you want Google, it's an extra $10 a month, but it's a really good search engine, so you'll pay for it, right?
02:21:59.000 But then if you want Joe Sixpack's new search engine, well, that's going to be an extra $50, but you probably don't want that anyway.
02:22:05.000 And so now, the entrepreneur, the upstart, the nobodies in the apartment, have a much smaller percentage of the market because they're not part of the default internet package anymore, right?
02:22:14.000 So it'd be like trying to start your own cable company.
02:22:16.000 Yeah.
02:22:17.000 Good luck.
02:22:17.000 Yeah, good luck.
02:22:18.000 Rather than just getting a YouTube channel and starting to broadcast.
02:22:21.000 And so what used to be a flat internet will become hierarchical.
02:22:25.000 You'll have that cable bill, or you'll have that internet bill looking just like your cable bill.
02:22:29.000 And it breaks the foundation of what makes the internet work, all bits being equal.
02:22:34.000 And we're at a point now where judges in the federal courts recently ruled that pretty much cable companies can have their way now. 0.91
02:22:42.000 And at this point, my buddy at The Verge, now he's at Vox, wrote an article called The Internet is Fucked. 0.59
02:22:50.000 And Neil, I really nailed it with this.
02:22:52.000 And he basically had a nice little call to arms that was like, listen, at this point, call the FCC. I know it seems ridiculous.
02:22:59.000 Call the FCC and let them know they need to give this thing teeth because the internet is a utility. 1.00
02:23:04.000 It is like electricity.
02:23:06.000 It is the kind of thing where we all know we need it.
02:23:09.000 We couldn't imagine a world without it.
02:23:11.000 And every one of us should have the same open, flat internet no matter what.
02:23:16.000 And we're at an interesting time because there was a time in America when kids in New York were playing by radios with electricity and kids in the South were still using candles.
02:23:27.000 We've seen this disparity before, but we can change it.
02:23:32.000 We just have to make sure the internet becomes a utility that we know it is.
02:23:35.000 The last thing we want is the internet only to be available in its fullest form to people that pay for the premium subscription rate. 0.98
02:23:41.000 That's bullshit. 0.99
02:23:42.000 That's insanity. 1.00
02:23:43.000 Yeah.
02:23:43.000 Yeah, it is insanity.
02:23:44.000 And it's anti-innovation.
02:23:46.000 And anybody that would want that is just trying to control innovation.
02:23:51.000 Absolutely.
02:23:51.000 You're just trying to control information.
02:23:53.000 Is there a way to stop that at this point in time?
02:23:58.000 I mean, realistically, seriously, call the FCC. You can read the article if you're not totally convinced.
02:24:02.000 He goes in.
02:24:03.000 I mean, it's like 30 pages, but worth reading.
02:24:05.000 But really, that's a big part of it.
02:24:07.000 Another part of it is, frankly, having representatives in office who understand and will fight for our internet rights.
02:24:13.000 And there aren't a lot of them.
02:24:14.000 There are maybe like six or eight.
02:24:17.000 There's not a lot.
02:24:19.000 We talked earlier about our uplifting discussion about the future of politics and politicians, but that's where we're at right now, unfortunately.
02:24:26.000 That's what it comes down to.
02:24:27.000 You have to call the FCC. That's the only way to get something to happen.
02:24:32.000 Here's the other thing I hope can come out of this.
02:24:35.000 The first political thing I ever got involved with was SOPA PIPA. And that was a dangerous thing for a lot of us to get involved with because it worked out so well.
02:24:44.000 Like, we actually did the thing democracy was supposed to do, which is let a bunch of informed citizens take action, phone calls, petitions, letters, all that stuff, and change people's minds in the face of millions of dollars in lobbying.
02:24:56.000 And we did it.
02:24:57.000 And it was a great high, especially for, like, a first foray into politics.
02:25:02.000 But the fact is, there are many more of those fights that we need to keep fighting.
02:25:05.000 And, like...
02:25:07.000 I hope a more connected citizen feels entitled to this kind of stuff.
02:25:12.000 I hope we feel entitled to more transparency from our government.
02:25:15.000 I hope we feel entitled to pick on Kim. 0.97
02:25:18.000 We can look on Kim's Instagram right now and see what she's having for breakfast or what she had for lunch. 0.98
02:25:23.000 And that's ridiculous. 0.95
02:25:24.000 That's absurd. 0.88
02:25:25.000 But it's accessible to millions of people right now 24-7.
02:25:27.000 I want that same level of accountability for the people who represent me in government.
02:25:31.000 For my government.
02:25:31.000 And there's no reason why we can't get it.
02:25:33.000 We just need to be asking for it.
02:25:36.000 Yeah, but not necessarily seeing their lunch, but seeing the bills that they're working on and what's going on at any given moment.
02:25:44.000 They should have 24-hour cameras on them. 1.00
02:25:46.000 Fuck it. 1.00
02:25:47.000 Let me read your email, bitch. 1.00
02:25:49.000 I can't edit your email, but I can read them. 0.99
02:25:51.000 They get to read ours.
02:25:52.000 They're already reading them.
02:25:53.000 It's only fair.
02:25:54.000 It's only fair.
02:25:55.000 Tell me about Aaron Schwartz.
02:25:58.000 So he was in the same round of Y Combinator that Steve and I were.
02:26:04.000 He was working on a startup called Infogami.
02:26:07.000 We didn't talk a lot then, but maybe six months after, his company pretty much folded his co-founder and went back to Denmark.
02:26:16.000 And Paul Graham, who organized Y Combinator, was like, Hey, Steve, Alexis, you guys need more developers.
02:26:21.000 Why don't you work with Aaron?
02:26:24.000 And we acquired his company.
02:26:26.000 He moved in with us.
02:26:27.000 We worked together for a little bit.
02:26:29.000 We, gosh, not long thereafter got acquired.
02:26:33.000 Once we got acquired, it was clear Aaron was not really that into it.
02:26:37.000 And he left.
02:26:39.000 And we stayed in touch for a little bit thereafter, but not long.
02:26:43.000 And then he got really into politics.
02:26:45.000 Really started getting involved in a lot of that great work for the open internet.
02:26:49.000 We shared a lot of common friends.
02:26:52.000 And, you know, he, he did some very, he did some very unfairly punished things.
02:27:01.000 Like, he, the entire thing, he broke into a storeroom in MIT, downloaded using MIT's credentials, a bunch of these documents, research papers, JSTOR, like these are academic articles.
02:27:15.000 Downloaded a bunch of them and...
02:27:18.000 And put them online, right?
02:27:19.000 Well, he didn't actually put them online, but he did download them.
02:27:22.000 And there was presumed intent, but none of that.
02:27:23.000 That was all presumed.
02:27:25.000 And the state or the prosecutor there in Boston came down so incredibly and unjustly hard on him.
02:27:32.000 The charges they were levying...
02:27:34.000 I mean, I don't know much more than what probably most people have read a few of the articles know.
02:27:38.000 But he was looking at some very, very, very long, serious jail time for this.
02:27:44.000 It was one of those very clear, the punishment did not fit the crime situations.
02:27:49.000 They wanted to make an example of him.
02:27:51.000 And he very tragically took his own life.
02:27:56.000 Rather than risk going to jail, was he prosecuted?
02:27:59.000 What does that mean?
02:28:00.000 Did they go through and charge him?
02:28:02.000 Yeah.
02:28:03.000 I mean, did he get found guilty?
02:28:06.000 Oh, no.
02:28:07.000 I don't know enough about the legal stuff of it.
02:28:10.000 Okay, I understand.
02:28:11.000 He was being investigated.
02:28:12.000 His friends, his family were being subpoenaed and questioned.
02:28:15.000 And these papers that he put, were they available?
02:28:19.000 Could you get those?
02:28:20.000 Yes, if.
02:28:21.000 They weren't secret?
02:28:23.000 Yes.
02:28:23.000 No.
02:28:23.000 What it is, this is one of those really unjust things.
02:28:26.000 There's a lot of research that's done, like federal research for instance, that's funded with our taxpayer dollars that end up getting locked up in these academic journals that you have to pay a subscription for.
02:28:37.000 So in this case, MIT had paid the subscription for it.
02:28:40.000 It's a non-trivial amount.
02:28:42.000 And he was able, anyone on the MIT network, anyone at probably any major university network or anyone who wanted to pay could view these research documents.
02:28:51.000 He argued that, you know what, this is content we paid for, right?
02:28:55.000 This research was funded by our tax dollars.
02:28:56.000 Why should I have to pay a subscription to some random company who has the monopoly on access to this content?
02:29:01.000 Right.
02:29:01.000 And that is what they charged them with.
02:29:05.000 And I mean, I'm much...
02:29:06.000 Sorry.
02:29:07.000 Well, those are the grounds on which he was charged.
02:29:09.000 So it was a felony because he was breaking and entering into the system.
02:29:15.000 I am not certain.
02:29:18.000 I'm pretty sure that's what the argument is.
02:29:20.000 And then there were some really egregious...
02:29:23.000 Like, there have been a handful of developers or hackers that have been sort of made examples of by the government where you have these instances of doing things that were not, like I said, the severity of the punishment did not even come close to the actual crime.
02:29:40.000 Especially in this instance where, like I said, this was not actually distributed.
02:29:44.000 He was just downloading them.
02:29:45.000 Which, again, he could do within the network.
02:29:47.000 But it was technically breaking the, I don't know, the license, I guess, of JSTOR. That seems crazy.
02:29:53.000 So he's not even like a random outside guy.
02:29:56.000 Like, he had access to those files.
02:29:58.000 Yeah, I mean, any university student did.
02:30:00.000 And I think the most egregious, well, okay, there are a lot of egregious things.
02:30:03.000 But the company, JSTOR, had actually settled up with him.
02:30:08.000 They had actually said, you know what?
02:30:11.000 It's cool.
02:30:12.000 We don't want you to press charges.
02:30:13.000 So they actually told the government, don't press charges.
02:30:16.000 And they continued.
02:30:19.000 So is that like a prosecutor that just wants to get a win?
02:30:22.000 Is that what that is?
02:30:23.000 That is what it looked like, yeah.
02:30:27.000 That's bone-chilling.
02:30:29.000 And that takes us back to what we were talking about earlier about...
02:30:32.000 Private prisons and about people making sure that there's jobs for wardens and prison guards and they're making sure that certain drug laws stay illegal or stay on the books.
02:30:44.000 God.
02:30:45.000 It's the same thing.
02:30:46.000 People profiting off of other folks.
02:30:48.000 The idea of someone just wanting to win when they're a prosecutor.
02:30:52.000 Just getting a case and wanting to close it.
02:30:54.000 And make an example.
02:30:54.000 And then there's pressure on you to close that case.
02:30:57.000 And if you don't, you set a precedent.
02:30:59.000 If the guy gets off, then the precedent has been set.
02:31:02.000 So it becomes a competitive environment. 1.00
02:31:05.000 Motherfucker. 1.00
02:31:05.000 And some young guy's life is on the line. 1.00
02:31:09.000 And I understand the role of laws and I understand the role of a justice system. 0.89
02:31:17.000 And when you see things like that, that seem to go so far astray from the intent, from the point of having a justice system is really important, but to have it be so just fucked up like that is sad, is very, very sad. 0.95
02:31:32.000 Yeah, it's another symptom of this mad, mad civilization that we're a part of. 0.66
02:31:40.000 The good things and the bad things, they all come together. 0.97
02:31:44.000 Law as it is and things, these really rigid ideas of what's legal and illegal, what the punishment can and can't be, those things are so goddamn archaic. 0.95
02:31:56.000 Mandatory minimums. 0.99
02:31:57.000 Mandatory minimums are fucking archaic. 0.99
02:31:59.000 I mean, it's one thing if it's violent crime. 0.99
02:32:02.000 I understand that entirely.
02:32:04.000 I understand when you're making a victim out of someone or you're stealing things from them with violence.
02:32:09.000 I get that.
02:32:10.000 But something like this, where the guy's just, it's information.
02:32:14.000 What's he doing with his information?
02:32:15.000 Is he going to take down the government?
02:32:16.000 No, no, no.
02:32:16.000 He's going to let people learn.
02:32:17.000 Okay, whore. 1.00
02:32:18.000 Hold the fuck up. 1.00
02:32:19.000 Can someone in the room stand up and be like, hey guys. 1.00
02:32:22.000 You want to put this guy in a cage?
02:32:23.000 Does this make sense?
02:32:24.000 You've got a super genius who has some incredibly strong morals and ethics when it comes to information.
02:32:29.000 And to him, he feels...
02:32:31.000 And you've got a guy who's at the cutting edge of technology.
02:32:33.000 One of the guys who helped invent RSS feeds.
02:32:35.000 He's at the cutting edge of technology.
02:32:36.000 Of the distribution of information and he finds this to be a toxic flaw in the system. 1.00
02:32:41.000 Whether he's right or wrong, you don't have to put him in a fucking cage. 0.98
02:32:45.000 The idea that this is the right thing to do, it's shocking. 0.99
02:32:51.000 It's like Inquisition-style shocking. 0.61
02:32:53.000 It's like the same thing as any of the other ridiculous, archaic things that we don't do anymore. 1.00
02:33:00.000 Fuck, man. 1.00
02:33:02.000 And hopefully we can learn from this. 1.00
02:33:04.000 God, I hope so.
02:33:05.000 Aaron's Law was a bill.
02:33:07.000 I don't know where it got in the House.
02:33:11.000 But I hope...
02:33:12.000 I mean, this is...
02:33:12.000 The thing that gives me hope is that this system is...
02:33:18.000 It's like code in that you can update it.
02:33:20.000 You can do a source revision.
02:33:22.000 You can update this.
02:33:23.000 We can make amendments.
02:33:24.000 We can change things if we find that they are wrong.
02:33:26.000 And Aaron's Law is a way to hopefully do that.
02:33:29.000 But you've got to get a bunch of people who don't understand the internet to agree on something.
02:33:32.000 Well, what's incredibly ironic is the solution is Reddit.
02:33:35.000 Have court cases decided through Reddit.
02:33:37.000 Whoa.
02:33:38.000 It's perfect.
02:33:39.000 There's not woe, because the alternative is woe. 0.98
02:33:43.000 The fact that we're using this archaic system of a judge fucking has a mallet and slams it on a piece of wood. 1.00
02:33:49.000 What are you doing, asshole? 1.00
02:33:50.000 You got a mallet? 1.00
02:33:51.000 Get the fuck out of here with you. 1.00
02:33:52.000 Why don't you have a fucking bow and arrow, too, and shoot a flaming arrow through the sky to let us know that the games have begun and the guy next to you has a conch shell. 1.00
02:34:02.000 And put your powdered wigs on, you fucking assholes. 1.00
02:34:05.000 Get the fuck out of here with a mallet. 1.00
02:34:07.000 You can't keep using a mallet, stupid. 1.00
02:34:10.000 Bang, bang, bang. 1.00
02:34:11.000 Get the fuck out of here with that stupid, archaic nonsense. 1.00
02:34:15.000 Reddit's the answer. 1.00
02:34:16.000 No more judges.
02:34:17.000 Get them out.
02:34:18.000 Court of Reddit.
02:34:19.000 Subreddits.
02:34:20.000 Karma point.
02:34:21.000 Subreddits.
02:34:21.000 We have subreddits.
02:34:22.000 Subreddits agriculture.
02:34:23.000 Should we be able to grow hemp?
02:34:24.000 Yes.
02:34:25.000 Boom.
02:34:25.000 We're done.
02:34:26.000 We're done here.
02:34:27.000 Scrape that one up. 0.93
02:34:28.000 Yeah.
02:34:29.000 On to the next one.
02:34:29.000 Okay.
02:34:30.000 Should this guy go to jail because he distributes information that was freely available to college students?
02:34:34.000 No.
02:34:35.000 Okay.
02:34:36.000 We're good.
02:34:37.000 Let them out! 0.99
02:34:38.000 What's next?
02:34:38.000 But you would run into the problem if there would be somebody that had a stutter or something like that, or if the joke turned on them, then everyone would vote just because of the wrong reason.
02:34:47.000 You know, how the internet is.
02:34:49.000 What?
02:34:50.000 Meaning, what if there was somebody that had a court case, and they were being voted on Reddit, and the guy maybe had a stutter or talked like he was gay or something like that, how that could turn and unfairly vote for the wrong reason on the internet.
02:35:04.000 See, that's where the vote-ups and vote-downs come into play.
02:35:07.000 I think most people wouldn't do it.
02:35:09.000 I am going to be the first to say I'm not proposing we throw out our justice system in favor of Reddit.
02:35:13.000 I am.
02:35:14.000 I'll be the first to say I am.
02:35:16.000 I'll throw out the justice system in favor of Reddit. 0.99
02:35:18.000 I think it's a better idea.
02:35:19.000 I think, look, there certainly should be experts in all areas, whether it's experts on the environment.
02:35:24.000 And undoubtedly, Uninfluenced experts.
02:35:28.000 Experts that have no tie to the political machine.
02:35:30.000 Experts who have no aspirations.
02:35:32.000 Not only that, preclude them from having any sort of position of power or any sort of gigantic job inside a corporation.
02:35:41.000 Did you see the movie Inside Job?
02:35:43.000 Did you ever see that?
02:35:45.000 Wait, I feel like I did.
02:35:46.000 It was on the Financial Crisis, fascinating documentary.
02:35:49.000 Oh, no.
02:35:50.000 No, really good stuff.
02:35:51.000 Let me pull it up.
02:35:53.000 Yeah, you want to watch it.
02:35:54.000 But one of the interesting things about it was how they highlighted how these people that...
02:35:58.000 Made economic policy.
02:36:00.000 These professors, they recommended these positions that we apply to our economy. 0.97
02:36:05.000 Then they would go on and get these huge jobs afterwards and make fucking millions of dollars. 0.92
02:36:10.000 What an interesting coincidence. 0.99
02:36:11.000 Oh, it's so gross. 0.82
02:36:13.000 It's one of the grossest things ever.
02:36:14.000 It's a really good documentary.
02:36:16.000 It's from 2010, and it's by a guy named Charles Ferguson.
02:36:21.000 And what's interesting is this Charles Ferguson guy is, I believe he's the guy that's doing all of...
02:36:27.000 All of the questions, I shouldn't say that because I'm not really sure, but whoever the guy is that's the narrator, you don't see him always questioning people, but always questioning people, he's so knowledgeable about how the system actually works that he catches these mathematicians and these economics experts being really arrogant.
02:36:46.000 And then he faces them with the truth, and you see them scramble and start to sweat.
02:36:51.000 And I should have never agreed to this interview.
02:36:53.000 You see them realize, do what you're going to do with this.
02:36:56.000 And you see them fall apart and panic, and they fall into this really sort of aggressive state.
02:37:03.000 It's quite fascinating.
02:37:05.000 It's really good.
02:37:06.000 And it just shows you that it's a mess.
02:37:10.000 Reddit it up.
02:37:10.000 Fix it.
02:37:12.000 Vote up, vote down.
02:37:13.000 We're solving problems, man.
02:37:14.000 I think we are, dude.
02:37:15.000 We're solving problems.
02:37:16.000 I feel good about it.
02:37:16.000 I feel good about this conversation.
02:37:18.000 I think we should end here before it gets bad.
02:37:19.000 As long as we just remember, there's going to be a mascot, right?
02:37:25.000 We're going to keep the Reddit alien going.
02:37:27.000 I like that.
02:37:27.000 That's a great mascot.
02:37:28.000 It's cute.
02:37:29.000 Yes.
02:37:29.000 Sweet.
02:37:30.000 It doesn't look mean.
02:37:31.000 Have you ever thought about, and this is probably what happened to Dig and a couple other similar sites, just redesigning the whole thing.
02:37:38.000 And fucking it all up. 0.87
02:37:39.000 Have you thought about fucking it all up? 0.98
02:37:40.000 Do we want to fuck everything up? 0.88
02:37:42.000 No, I mean, but what if it was just an option, almost like you can go in your settings and go, oh, new style.
02:37:48.000 I'll take the modern.
02:37:49.000 I mean, have you ever thought about it at all?
02:37:51.000 We've definitely thought about modernizing it.
02:37:54.000 Part of it's just inertia.
02:37:55.000 Like, you're dealing with growth all the time.
02:37:58.000 You're dealing with all this other stuff.
02:37:59.000 It's like, oh, do we want to rethink how the front page looks?
02:38:02.000 There have been small improvements.
02:38:03.000 We just added trending subreddits, which are pretty damn cool, to try to help people realize that there are these thousands of different communities they should dive into.
02:38:12.000 But I wouldn't expect any big changes.
02:38:13.000 I mean, for the reasons we were just joking about.
02:38:15.000 Yeah, there's no need...
02:38:17.000 I mean, it's a content distribution network.
02:38:21.000 Essentially, you're allowing people to really cleanly, easily find something they're interested in in a text form, and then go there.
02:38:29.000 It's the best way.
02:38:30.000 Make it light.
02:38:31.000 Keep it light.
02:38:31.000 And I mean, look...
02:38:33.000 It's not like there was some minimal vision.
02:38:35.000 When we graduated from college, Steve and I just sucked at HTML and CSS. This was the first real web app we'd ever made.
02:38:42.000 We'd made websites, but never a fully featured web app.
02:38:45.000 And we just weren't very good.
02:38:47.000 That's actually cool.
02:38:48.000 That was my fault. 0.56
02:38:49.000 That shitty font we used, Verdana.
02:38:50.000 I was like, oh, this would be a great font for us to use. 0.94
02:38:52.000 It's my favorite font.
02:38:53.000 Did you originally buy the domain?
02:38:55.000 Were you the first one?
02:38:56.000 Yes, sir.
02:38:56.000 What was it originally purchased for?
02:38:58.000 Oh, it was unused.
02:39:00.000 $9.99 on DreamHouse.
02:39:01.000 Where'd you get the name?
02:39:02.000 Oh, I was in the library, EVA, Alderman Library, Wahoo Wah, and I was trying to come up with something that involved the word read, and I was like, Reddit, like I read it on Reddit.
02:39:14.000 And then I tried different ways of spelling it and R-E-D-D-I-T worked because no one had it.
02:39:18.000 And I also registered R-E-D-I-T-T. But then I asked my friend Melissa, I was like, which one of these makes more sense for a bastardization of Reddit?
02:39:25.000 And she was like, I'll go with the two D's, idiot. 1.00
02:39:27.000 That's great, man. 1.00
02:39:29.000 Well, listen, what you guys did was nothing short of a cultural revolution, I think, in my opinion.
02:39:35.000 I think it's one of the key components today online as far as like... 0.98
02:39:41.000 Like an asset to distribute information, to spread cool shit, and to let people have intelligent discussions about it in a really rational way of filtering out the fuckheads. 0.96
02:39:53.000 It's pretty genius stuff, man. 0.99
02:39:56.000 Thank God you're here.
02:39:58.000 I am happy we could do it, because I'll tell you, man...
02:40:02.000 We were just trying to live like college students for as long as we could.
02:40:05.000 Your book is, without their permission, is it available in audio?
02:40:08.000 Did you do an audible version of it?
02:40:09.000 Yeah, I did an audible.
02:40:10.000 Did you get to talk?
02:40:10.000 It was great.
02:40:11.000 They let you do it?
02:40:12.000 Yeah, they did.
02:40:13.000 Oh, they encouraged me.
02:40:14.000 That's beautiful.
02:40:14.000 Oh, that's so good.
02:40:15.000 It was for the Bain impression.
02:40:16.000 Once they knew I could do a Bain impression.
02:40:18.000 What's your Bain impression?
02:40:19.000 It doesn't matter what you think of my Bain impression.
02:40:27.000 No?
02:40:27.000 It's not bad.
02:40:28.000 I know impression humor is like the lowest form of humor.
02:40:31.000 No, it's not the lowest form.
02:40:31.000 I don't believe in that, man.
02:40:33.000 It's prop comedy.
02:40:33.000 You got an impression and it's hilarious.
02:40:35.000 It's fucking hilarious. 0.99
02:40:36.000 People are so pretentious when it comes to that. 0.99
02:40:38.000 Can we add a laugh track?
02:40:39.000 Nope.
02:40:40.000 We already had a laugh track.
02:40:41.000 He was laughing.
02:40:42.000 That's the laugh track.
02:40:43.000 Okay, so without their permission and audible.com, do you have an audio version, a real version, Amazon, sell it everywhere.
02:40:51.000 We got an e-book, oh yeah.
02:40:51.000 E-book, dead trees, everything.
02:40:53.000 Mm-hmm.
02:40:54.000 And how would your grandfather say it?
02:40:56.000 Ohanyan.
02:40:57.000 Ohanyan.
02:40:58.000 Alexis Ohanyan.
02:40:59.000 And props for keeping the name Alexis. 0.99
02:41:00.000 Good for you, man. 1.00
02:41:01.000 Fuck the haters. 1.00
02:41:02.000 Hell yeah. 1.00
02:41:03.000 Let them rot. 1.00
02:41:03.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that's it. 1.00
02:41:05.000 That's a wrap.
02:41:05.000 Anything else to tell people?
02:41:06.000 No, thank you for having me, man.
02:41:07.000 Thanks for being on.
02:41:08.000 It's been an honor. 0.99
02:41:09.000 Reddit.com, R-E-D-D-I-T. Go get Onnit, bitches. 1.00
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02:41:26.000 Brian Redman, where are you at?
02:41:28.000 Next week, we'll be going on the road with Dusk Squad with Tony Hinchcliffe and Tiffany Haddish.
02:41:33.000 We're going to be in Portland, Oregon, April 18th at the Funhouse.
02:41:36.000 April 19th, Seattle at the High Line.
02:41:38.000 And April 20th, 420 show at the Edgewater Casino.
02:41:41.000 And also, if you go back, you can listen to Pointless No.
02:41:43.000 4. We actually had you on a Death Squad show back in the day.
02:41:49.000 Boom.
02:41:50.000 Sherlock, lock, boom.
02:41:51.000 All right.
02:41:52.000 We'll be, this Friday night, we'll be at the Ice House.
02:41:55.000 Tonight.
02:41:55.000 Yeah, tonight.
02:41:56.000 That's tonight.
02:41:56.000 Yeah, tickets.
02:41:57.000 A couple tickets left.
02:41:58.000 Who else is there with us?
02:41:59.000 We got Tony Henscliffe, Christina Pajitsky.
02:42:02.000 Jesus Christ.
02:42:03.000 Justin Martindale.
02:42:04.000 What a show!
02:42:05.000 Nick Yusuf.
02:42:06.000 What a show!
02:42:08.000 Dave Taylor.
02:42:09.000 Oh, what a show!
02:42:11.000 And there's only 80 people in the room. 0.99
02:42:13.000 It's a fucking amazing little venue at the Ice House. 0.98
02:42:15.000 The oldest comedy club in the country, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99
02:42:18.000 Right.
02:42:18.000 It's been a comedy club since the 1960s, like I believe 1961 or something like that.
02:42:23.000 Anyway, we'll be there.
02:42:24.000 Don't get too weird with us though. 0.98
02:42:26.000 Thanks to everybody else and a lot of fucking good shit coming up next week. 0.98
02:42:33.000 I got Amy Schumer's coming in again. 0.98
02:42:37.000 I got a lot of stuff happening.
02:42:38.000 You also got the new Twitter profile, and I'm so jealous.
02:42:41.000 Why, is it hard yet?
02:42:42.000 Huh?
02:42:42.000 Yeah, it's only been slowly released to a few people.
02:42:45.000 Oh, well, did I get lucky?
02:42:47.000 Yeah.
02:42:48.000 Look at that.
02:42:49.000 Maybe somebody loves me.
02:42:50.000 Wait a minute.
02:42:51.000 Maybe somebody loves me, Brian.
02:42:53.000 Might not be lucky.
02:42:55.000 Maybe somebody loves me.
02:42:56.000 Why you gotta hate?
02:42:58.000 Alright, we love you guys. 0.92
02:43:01.000 Even if you get a whack-ass Twitter profile.
02:43:04.000 Nothing but love for you.
02:43:05.000 Big kisses and hugs all around.
02:43:08.000 Alright, we'll see you guys next week.
02:43:10.000 Take care.
02:43:11.000 Big kiss.
02:43:11.000 Bye.
02:43:12.000 Bye.