The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #487 - David Seaman

00:00:00.000 Hello dirty freaks. 1.00

00:00:02.000 Yes you are. 1.00

00:00:04.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:00:05.000 Stop. 1.00

00:00:07.000 Get over it.

00:00:08.000 It's just a label.

00:00:10.000 This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is brought to you by Ting.

00:00:16.000 What's Ting, Joe? 0.90

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00:00:29.000 There's no contracts with Ting. 0.74

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00:00:58.000 When you cancel your, I'm sorry I made you sound so dumb. 0.99

00:01:01.000 Just you figuratively, it's not really you. 0.96

00:01:05.000 That's actually how I speak off the air.

00:01:05.000 That's only me.

00:01:07.000 Yeah, he has a weird voice off the air. 1.00

00:01:09.000 On the air, he's so smooth, but off the air, he's just stupid. 1.00

00:01:13.000 I'm going home now. 1.00

00:01:15.000 I'm tired of fucking assholes tweeting at me. 1.00

00:01:20.000 Anyway, point is, if you try to leave your contract, you have to pay money. 1.00

00:01:24.000 That's not how Ting has it.

00:01:26.000 Ting has it set up where they rent time on the sprint backbone, which sounds really fucking weird, but just the term renting time on a backbone.

00:01:36.000 Backbone.

00:01:37.000 Yeah.

00:01:38.000 Backbones, they've probably come up with a new name for backbones.

00:01:41.000 Is it a sweaty backbone or is it an LCD?

00:01:43.000 It's not even a human backbone.

00:01:45.000 It's a computer network sort of a thing.

00:01:48.000 I don't understand it.

00:01:50.000 Why call it backbone?

00:01:51.000 Did you run out of words you can make with your face?

00:01:54.000 It's not a backbone.

00:01:55.000 I know what a backbone is.

00:01:57.000 Network doesn't sound as cool.

00:01:58.000 Or grid.

00:01:59.000 It does sound nice.

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00:02:20.000 Like, say if you pay, you know, if your cell phone costs X amount per month and you're allotted 120 minutes, if you use less of those minutes, you don't get any money back, right?

00:02:20.000 That's it.

00:02:31.000 I mean, you pay every month the same.

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00:02:46.000 It's very simple.

00:02:48.000 It's not confusing.

00:02:50.000 And they have the latest and greatest in Android cell phones, including the Samsung Galaxy S5, which just came out this week.

00:02:57.000 And it's quite dope delicious.

00:02:59.000 In fact, it's waterproof. 0.99

00:03:00.000 It has a fucking fingerprint sensor and it has a heart rate monitor on it. 0.99

00:03:04.000 Yeah, that's pretty badass. 1.00

00:03:07.000 I read a good review about it, and they said it's an amazing phone.

00:03:10.000 You know, it's better than the last one and stuff.

00:03:11.000 The waterproof thing is probably the best thing about it, but they also threw so many options on this phone that it's ridiculous, like the fingerprint sensor and stuff like that.

00:03:19.000 There's so many things on this phone.

00:03:21.000 Well, what they're doing is they're leaving Apple so far behind that Apple would have to be a big fat copycat in order to catch up.

00:03:27.000 When they start putting things like heart rate monitors on phones and making phones waterproof, this isn't the only waterproof phone. 0.67

00:03:33.000 There's another Android phone, the Sony Xperia, which looks pretty fucking badass.

00:03:38.000 That phone is also waterproof, and that phone has some radonculous megapixel camera, too. 0.98

00:03:45.000 I don't know what the fuck is that? 0.96

00:03:47.000 How's the price of the Sony? 0.98

00:03:48.000 Because I like Sony's stuff, but I feel like it's always one and a half times more expensive than I haven't looked into it, quite honestly.

00:03:54.000 But, you know, there's what the point, just to get through this commercial, is that there's so many high-quality Android cell phones now.

00:04:02.000 There's quite a bit, including the Samsungs, the LGs, Motorola is now owned by Google, and they're making pretty badass cell phones.

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00:04:29.000 Oh, that's right.

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00:11:50.000 Any gigs coming up?

00:11:52.000 Yeah, this Friday, Portland, Oregon.

00:11:54.000 Good googly moogly.

00:11:55.000 Saturday, Seattle, and then Vancouver for 420 with Tony Hinchcliffe.

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00:12:11.000 It doesn't get any better than those three places.

00:12:13.000 Those are three of the best places on earth to perform.

00:12:15.000 Vancouver is where, what's his name?

00:12:17.000 Eckhart Tolley is from.

00:12:19.000 And that's where he sat on the park bench for a couple of years.

00:12:22.000 Really?

00:12:23.000 Formulating all of his positive thoughts?

00:12:25.000 Yeah, after two years, he realized that he should be in the present moment.

00:12:29.000 I mean, there's more to it than that, but it really took him years to fully embody, like, this is all I have is this exact moment, nothing else.

00:12:35.000 Wow, and he figured it out in Vancouver.

00:12:37.000 In Vancouver.

00:12:38.000 He probably would have figured it out in Kansas. 1.00

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00:13:11.000 All right now.

00:13:16.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:13:21.000 Young David Seaman is fighting crime.

00:13:26.000 That's your new song.

00:13:27.000 Yeah, I like that.

00:13:28.000 That's great.

00:13:28.000 It's a great intro for my podcast from now, and I'm just going to sample that.

00:13:32.000 Maybe a couple other things.

00:13:34.000 We were talking during the commercials about these new laws that are slowly being worked in where people are going to allow to have hemp farms.

00:13:41.000 I'm really curious to see how they handle that.

00:13:44.000 Who starts getting arrested?

00:13:47.000 This Bundy Ranch thing that's going on in Nevada and the blowback.

00:13:51.000 I know absolutely nothing about Bundy Ranch.

00:13:53.000 The only thing I know about it is somebody tweeted me and said, like, why have you been silent on this? 0.92

00:13:58.000 And it's like, I've been silent on it because it's the first I've fucking heard of it.

00:14:00.000 It's like the other day, somebody asked me. 0.98

00:14:02.000 It's gross about that.

00:14:03.000 Their righteous indignation for you ignoring topics.

00:14:06.000 Has the man gotten to you, David Seaman?

00:14:08.000 You don't want to talk about ranchers' rights.

00:14:10.000 Oh, I see where you draw the line.

00:14:12.000 It's all fine if it's drones and Bitcoin.

00:14:14.000 Yeah.

00:14:16.000 I was so confused about it because I thought it was the Bunny Ranch the whole time, and I'm like, why do they have cattle there?

00:14:20.000 That's so funny.

00:14:20.000 I thought the same thing.

00:14:22.000 When I saw that there was a protest at the Bunny Ranch, I was like, what happened?

00:14:26.000 I thought, like, maybe someone killed a prostitute or something, or some horrible thing happened, or they were trying to shut them down.

00:14:34.000 Someone did not give their money worth. 0.80

00:14:36.000 Yeah, I was against the protesters.

00:14:38.000 I was like, leave these guys alone. 0.76

00:14:40.000 Let them just get whacked up.

00:14:41.000 Apparently, it has something to do with using land to graze cattle on, and that this guy's been doing this forever.

00:14:50.000 And he says that he's just using the land the way God intended, and it's all private, or it's all public land.

00:14:59.000 And the government wants grazing fees from this guy, and they say that he owes the American taxpayers millions of dollars for grazing fees.

00:15:07.000 So I don't know who's right or who's wrong.

00:15:10.000 But what I do know is what they're trying to do is not handling court.

00:15:14.000 They're not trying to even make a public plea for why this guy owes money.

00:15:19.000 They're going there with guns and dogs and tasers, and people are freaking out. 0.99

00:15:24.000 And people are rising up and they're saying, hey, listen, you assholes, when you wonder why we want to keep the Second Amendment, when you wonder why we're worried about hostile takeovers in police states, it's shit like this. 1.00

00:15:35.000 You're talking about grass, you fuckheads. 1.00

00:15:38.000 You're talking about cows eating grass. 1.00

00:15:41.000 And how are you responding?

00:15:42.000 You're responding with snipers and dogs and tasers.

00:15:46.000 Well, last night I had to pick my mom up at LAX because she's visiting.

00:15:50.000 And on the way out, the woman would not let me out of the parking lot where you pay the fee and leave and the little gate goes up. 0.99

00:15:57.000 And I was like, what's going on here?

00:15:59.000 I was like, I'll pay with cash.

00:16:00.000 Like, it doesn't have to be credit card.

00:16:01.000 I'll pay with cash. 0.82

00:16:02.000 Like, I just want to get the fuck out of here. 0.77

00:16:03.000 I'm tired. 0.92

00:16:03.000 My mom just got off a five-hour flight. 0.92

00:16:05.000 She's tired.

00:16:06.000 And it's because I have a new car.

00:16:06.000 Right.

00:16:07.000 I got a new, doesn't really matter what I got, but a new Corolla.

00:16:11.000 And she's like, since it's new and you don't have plates on the back, I've got to take photos of your car and get your VIN number. 0.97

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00:16:18.000 Like, how long is it going to take to write down my VIN number? 0.98

00:16:20.000 Like, it's dark.

00:16:21.000 You can barely see through the windshield.

00:16:23.000 I was like, just let me go.

00:16:24.000 And here's the funny thing.

00:16:25.000 Like, I'm not a racist.

00:16:27.000 I'm not an Islamophobe. 1.00

00:16:29.000 But she was wearing one of the headscarves, the fucking Burqa things. 1.00

00:16:33.000 And I'm like, all right, if we're going to be very crass as a civilization and very cold and calculating, how many young white guys driving Toyota Corollas with their fucking mom in the car, how many of them have been responsible for terrorist attacks over the last 10, 20, or 100 years? 0.99

00:16:49.000 Zero. 0.99

00:16:50.000 You know, like, this is ridiculous. 0.99

00:16:51.000 Yeah, white guys with their mom and Toyota Corollas. 1.00

00:16:55.000 Very ridiculous. 0.99

00:16:55.000 And so I was like, what is this? 0.99

00:16:56.000 And she's like, oh, it's homeland security policy. 1.00

00:16:58.000 I was like, well, it's bullshit. 0.94

00:16:59.000 Like, I think we have to, we don't want to go overboard with being too adversarial or too like unaccepting of the fact that nothing is going to be perfect ever. 0.98

00:17:09.000 We have to acknowledge that.

00:17:10.000 But I think if we don't put our foot down at some point and say like, enough of this bureaucratic bullshit, then it's only a matter of time before that's the situation in a grocery store parking lot. 0.92

00:17:18.000 You know, and like people say that's ridiculous, but that is how Mission Creep happens. 0.96

00:17:22.000 It'd be like, oh, well, the TSA needs to keep our grocery store parking lots safe because you could be shot by a psychopath and you don't want that.

00:17:30.000 And it's like, where do we draw the line?

00:17:31.000 Like, life is unsafe.

00:17:32.000 Everybody dies, guaranteed.

00:17:34.000 And that's that.

00:17:35.000 And then like we should try to keep airports safe.

00:17:37.000 We should try to profile people beforehand, you know, kind of filter out the threats before they even get there.

00:17:43.000 All that stuff I'm in favor of.

00:17:45.000 But we got to have common sense and we're lacking that today.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, no, I agree with you.

00:17:49.000 I think you're totally right.

00:17:52.000 And I think that that's the thing about that people don't recognize about it slowly creeping into new places.

00:17:58.000 It's like all it would take is one event, whether it's at a great forum parking lot, you know, whether it's at, you know.

00:18:07.000 Well, they already, the TSA wants to start arming their agent, arming their, whatever they are, their people, because of the shooting at LAX.

00:18:14.000 So now we're going to go from a situation where there's pretty much nobody with guns at every airport to 20 dumbasses with guns at every airport.

00:18:21.000 And you're just creating an exponentially higher risk of something going wrong.

00:18:26.000 You know, somebody's going to make the wrong decision.

00:18:28.000 Somebody's going to be jumpy.

00:18:29.000 You don't need to arm a bunch of people who are barely able to do their jobs as it is.

00:18:35.000 Yeah, it's definitely a slippery slope.

00:18:38.000 It's definitely a slippery slope.

00:18:40.000 And it's like, what kind of qualifications are these people going to have to decide whether or not they should pull the trigger?

00:18:45.000 You heard about what happened to the PA that worked for Tosh.0 that got accidentally shot by the cops. 0.99

00:18:50.000 Holy shit, no, I didn't hear that. 0.99

00:18:51.000 Responded to someone they knew got stabbed. 0.99

00:18:55.000 He went to help, and the cops showed up, and he was running out of the place with the guy who had gotten stabbed.

00:19:03.000 The guy ran out.

00:19:04.000 He ran out behind him, and the cops unloaded on him.

00:19:06.000 Wow.

00:19:06.000 They just started firing on him.

00:19:08.000 And, you know, the cops had no idea.

00:19:09.000 He was running towards them and they just made a bad decision.

00:19:12.000 Now, these are cops, trained police officers that made a slippery decision, and they were incorrect.

00:19:18.000 Right.

00:19:18.000 And they go to a firing range, and they have to pass certain tests.

00:19:21.000 TSA officers are like rent-a-cops, basically. 1.00

00:19:24.000 Yeah, who knows what kind of stringent safety standards they have to go through, but I'm not comfortable With all those fucking dudes. 0.97

00:19:31.000 I've seen too many of them that it just, some of them are really cool for sure, but I've seen too many of them where I'm like, this guy did not go through a tight filter to get here. 0.98

00:19:42.000 He just didn't.

00:19:43.000 He's not that bright.

00:19:44.000 The way they're interacting with people is clunky.

00:19:46.000 It's rude.

00:19:47.000 You know, you see a lot of people that have this authoritative way of talking where they don't recognize the fact that, hey, man, you're just a person.

00:19:54.000 You're a person.

00:19:55.000 I'm a person.

00:19:56.000 You don't own me.

00:19:57.000 You're not better than me.

00:19:59.000 You know, you don't get to talk down to me because I forgot to take my belt off. 0.98

00:20:03.000 Why don't you lighten the fuck up? 0.98

00:20:05.000 I'm not a terrorist. 0.98

00:20:06.000 I'm a human being who's going through your job.

00:20:10.000 Just because you have power doesn't mean you should exercise it.

00:20:14.000 In all fairness, most of the people I run into at TSA are very pleasant and very nice.

00:20:18.000 Me too, especially when I get in the pre-approved line.

00:20:20.000 It's awesome.

00:20:21.000 It's almost like, oh, this is what it should be all the time.

00:20:23.000 It shouldn't be a special treat. 0.97

00:20:24.000 It should be, you know that just pre-screen the shit out of me. 0.93

00:20:27.000 You're already reading my emails. 0.97

00:20:28.000 Like, let's figure this out.

00:20:30.000 I get on the list where I can be pre-approved and can leave my shoes on, and that's fine.

00:20:33.000 Like, I'm okay with that.

00:20:34.000 Yeah, that's how it should be, 100%.

00:20:37.000 I remember when you used to not have to take a driver's license.

00:20:40.000 You could give somebody else your ticket. 1.00

00:20:42.000 You could give Brian your ticket and he can go on a fucking plane. 0.99

00:20:45.000 Like, you don't have to have a ticket that says David Seaman, show your passport. 0.99

00:20:49.000 Do you have any other forms of ID, sir?

00:20:51.000 Let me read your DNA.

00:20:52.000 Can I check your fingerprints?

00:20:53.000 What's this scar on your hand?

00:20:55.000 You've ruined your fingerprint. 0.80

00:20:56.000 You know, I mean, it's just unbelievably ridiculous that it's still escalating in this.

00:21:02.000 By the way, where's the terrorism?

00:21:05.000 Well, don't give them any ideas.

00:21:08.000 I know.

00:21:08.000 Well, I'm not saying, but what I am saying is Boston police arrest man for bringing hoax explosive device to Boston Marathon finish line.

00:21:16.000 They should eat that guy. 0.99

00:21:17.000 They should cut him up into pieces and serve him to prisoners. 1.00

00:21:20.000 And there was a pressure cooker in it, too. 1.00

00:21:22.000 Like, he just made a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:21:25.000 Yeah, really not a smart cooker. 1.00

00:21:26.000 God, what a fucking idiot. 1.00

00:21:29.000 But, you know, what would have prevented that guy from doing that? 1.00

00:21:33.000 I mean, maybe if they had more security at the Boston airport or at the Boston Marathon.

00:21:39.000 But really what would have prevented it is if they followed up on all the creepers.

00:21:44.000 Like they had been looking at that guy for a long time.

00:21:47.000 The CIA had been investigating that guy for a while. 1.00

00:21:50.000 They knew that guy was a fucking piece of shit. 1.00

00:21:52.000 We're a country of 300 million people, so unless we put everybody under house arrest and like, you know, padded, bubble-wrapped rooms to keep us safe, some people are going to do crazy shit. 1.00

00:22:02.000 And that's what happens when you have a society where people have rights and people can have guns and people can drive cars. 0.65

00:22:07.000 Like you're going to have car accidents.

00:22:08.000 You're going to have people shooting people.

00:22:10.000 And if you don't have that, you'll still have crazy people.

00:22:13.000 The other day, there was a headline story on CNN.

00:22:15.000 Some school, I forget where it was, Wisconsin maybe. 0.99

00:22:18.000 There was a fucking knife thing where this guy went in in a rampage and knifed like a crazy amount of people. 0.99

00:22:23.000 He didn't have a gun. 1.00

00:22:24.000 He killed like five people.

00:22:25.000 Yeah, it's insane.

00:22:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:27.000 And we got a lot of problems in this country.

00:22:30.000 We definitely have a lot of problems, but I think they're behavioral problems.

00:22:33.000 It's what would cause a person to do any of those things.

00:22:37.000 It's the same thing that what would cause a person to have no environmental concerns if they could profit from it.

00:22:44.000 What could cause a person to release something on the market that may have potential horrific side effects without doing the kind of screening that they should do?

00:22:53.000 Every time something like Vioxx slips through or these pharmaceutical drugs that give you strokes, they find out years later. 0.96

00:22:59.000 Like I knew a dude who's like 30 years old, who's an MMA fighter, had a fucking stroke from taking Viox. 0.82

00:23:04.000 I mean, that stuff, they pulled it, you know, they yanked it. 1.00

00:23:07.000 But there's been a bunch of those things where they just said, fuck it, let it roll. 0.99

00:23:10.000 Let's find out later. 0.99

00:23:12.000 You know, maybe weird shit will happen to people, but we've got enough data. 0.98

00:23:15.000 Run, make some money. 0.97

00:23:16.000 I had a family member have a heart attack from adverse reaction to a drug that's relatively new.

00:23:21.000 Last couple of years it came on the market.

00:23:23.000 And it's still on the market, even though this is a known side effect.

00:23:26.000 Like you'll see, if you Google it, you'll see like law firms soliciting victims of this issue.

00:23:33.000 And I guess whatever being countered there decided that it would be massively expensive to rein in the drug and admit that we're at fault.

00:23:39.000 So instead we're just going to say, you know, this is the risk of using this medication.

00:23:44.000 It's insane to me that I still see commercials for this drug on TV and like know that it's responsible for giving a family member a heart attack.

00:23:51.000 That's so crazy.

00:23:52.000 And is it just a weird one in a million people freak out and blow a gasket on this stuff?

00:23:57.000 Or is it a real common side effect?

00:24:00.000 It's not super common, but it's also from what I, again, I'm not a doctor or anything, so this is just Googling around.

00:24:05.000 It's not super uncommon either.

00:24:06.000 It's not like you saw the ads for mesothelioma and nobody actually has it.

00:24:10.000 This is something where like you get prescribed this instead of the one that's tried and true and that hospitals have been using for decades with very known risk profile. 0.96

00:24:20.000 This one replaces that and because it's under patent, they make more money and they claim it's more efficient, which it may be, but it also has this small chance of really fucking you over.

00:24:29.000 What is mesothelioma? 0.55

00:24:30.000 Because I see those ads.

00:24:32.000 They're on all the time on television.

00:24:34.000 Do you have mesothelioma?

00:24:36.000 I honestly don't know.

00:24:37.000 I think it might be some kind of lung disorder.

00:24:39.000 And it's from what?

00:24:40.000 No idea.

00:24:41.000 It is a, what looks like a cancer that develops from cells that's from exposure to asbestos.

00:24:52.000 Huh.

00:24:53.000 It's a cancer.

00:24:54.000 Only from asbestos?

00:24:55.000 Yeah.

00:24:56.000 So I guess what they're trying to do with those ads is target people that used to work in offices that have asbestos in them.

00:25:02.000 So that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

00:25:05.000 No, but my point is, like, you see those ads online.

00:25:08.000 Like, are you suffering from mesothelioma?

00:25:11.000 Contact our law firm.

00:25:12.000 And I've never met anybody who's suffered from that.

00:25:14.000 But this is something where if you Google it, there actually are cases of people having adverse side effects.

00:25:19.000 And it's because it's a new drug.

00:25:21.000 They're trying to make money and push aside this extremely cheap drug that costs like nothing, like a dollar, and has been used in hospitals for 100 years.

00:25:30.000 And they want to replace that blood thinner with this new one, which is not all that tried and true. 0.99

00:25:34.000 and it's just, you know, it's gone through the FDA process, but then shit happens. 0.68

00:25:37.000 And I don't know how I got off on this tangent, It's a thinking and behavior problem that people are willing to put money over humanity or that people are willing to commit horrific crimes. 0.97

00:25:56.000 Like, what is it that causes someone to be able to Run through a school and stab a bunch of kids.

00:26:02.000 I mean, what is it?

00:26:03.000 Is he on drugs?

00:26:05.000 Is it antidepressants?

00:26:06.000 Is it childhood abuse?

00:26:08.000 Is it trauma when he was young that just ruined his mind, ruined the connections that his mind makes forever?

00:26:16.000 What are those answers?

00:26:17.000 Because that's not what we ever hear.

00:26:18.000 All we ever hear is tighten down on security, take away the guns, lock the gates, install guards.

00:26:25.000 But is that really the answer?

00:26:26.000 Shouldn't we be trying to figure out, at least making an attempt? 0.79

00:26:30.000 Because I don't hear a fucking peep out of anybody to examine the motivations and the possibilities. 0.94

00:26:37.000 Like, what are the possibilities that could cause someone to become a monster? 0.98

00:26:40.000 What is it?

00:26:41.000 You know, what are the variables?

00:26:42.000 I don't think that when they add more security guards and more checkpoints, I really don't think it's about making us safer.

00:26:49.000 And it's not that they don't want us to be safer.

00:26:51.000 I'm not like super cynical about this, but what it is, is pretty much a jobs program.

00:26:56.000 It's like, this is a way to give people jobs and keep the employment rate a decent range.

00:27:01.000 And if we don't give people these jobs, basically they're just standing around.

00:27:05.000 Like, what is the abbreviation for TSA that people use?

00:27:07.000 Thousands standing around. 1.00

00:27:10.000 It's a fucking jobs program. 0.99

00:27:11.000 And so I would much rather see us, you know, why don't those people do something that actually helps the community, plant trees instead of harassing people at an airport? 0.99

00:27:21.000 Or, you know, we don't want to militarize our schools because then every day you're going into school and subconsciously you're like, am I a fucking prisoner?

00:27:29.000 Like, why are there guards around here?

00:27:30.000 It's supposed to be a voluntary thing where I'm coming for knowledge and to interact with other people my age and learn something about the world and then go home.

00:27:38.000 It's not a prison.

00:27:40.000 Yeah, it is a weird thing that you have to even think about that, to even worry about going to a school and there's guards there.

00:27:47.000 Like protecting what?

00:27:48.000 It's like, is it going to get to a point where it's just the only thing that's different is that people haven't figured out that they can attack people at stadiums or figured out that they can attack people at the mall?

00:27:59.000 I mean, once those things start happening on a regular basis, there really will be some sort of a lockdown in the parking lot where you're going to have to show your VIN number and they're going to have to read your DNA.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, it was really when somebody says, I need your VIN number, it just feels so invasive because they're like, we own you.

00:28:16.000 That's like the message that I get.

00:28:18.000 I realize that they need to do it because they don't want somebody putting an explosive device in a car that doesn't have a license plate.

00:28:23.000 Like, I totally understand the logic, but just as an individual who goes to airports fairly often, it's dehumanizing, and there's no proof that this makes us safer.

00:28:32.000 Yeah, there's no proof that this makes us safer.

00:28:34.000 And the actual numbers of terrorist attacks, like not taking anything away from the horrific nature of 9-11 or the Boston bombings or anything.

00:28:43.000 The numbers of those things taking place in comparison to the numbers of human beings is quite staggering. 0.94

00:28:50.000 I mean, there are very few terrorist attacks, and goddamn, there's a lot of people. 0.99

00:28:55.000 There's 300 million fucking people in this country, not including transients, not including vacationers from other countries, not including illegal aliens. 0.99

00:29:07.000 We really don't know what the full number is because many Mexicans are good at crossing that border. 0.99

00:29:13.000 LA's a joke.

00:29:14.000 Like when they try to figure out the census of LA, yeah, you get it.

00:29:17.000 Yeah.

00:29:18.000 20 million people in LA and approximately 100,000 undocumented workers. 1.00

00:29:24.000 Bitch! 1.00

00:29:24.000 Do you know what he, you don't know how many? 1.00

00:29:27.000 You have no idea how many Mexicans they are.

00:29:29.000 You aren't talking to you about how they're undocumented.

00:29:32.000 They're hiding.

00:29:33.000 They're working.

00:29:34.000 Go to one taco truck next to a car wash.

00:29:36.000 There's like a thousand Mexican people there.

00:29:39.000 But speaking of Mexican immigrants, this is one of my issues with the media is right now, they would have us believe that the two biggest problems facing all of us, gay marriage and illegal immigration. 0.99

00:29:51.000 Well, the right about one thing is fucking queer is itching up. 1.00

00:29:55.000 On the way over here, the freeway was backed up because there was a wedding right in the middle of the freeway. 0.99

00:29:59.000 All these gays just getting married right and left, destroying our way of life. 1.00

00:30:03.000 Yeah, they were sucking each other off right before they got married. 1.00

00:30:06.000 They don't even believe in the sanctity of marriage in a gay household. 1.00

00:30:10.000 They don't abstain before they get married? 0.93

00:30:12.000 They're not like regular people.

00:30:14.000 They have sex all the time. 0.84

00:30:15.000 Did you know that? 1.00

00:30:16.000 The wedding ring goes on your cock. 1.00

00:30:17.000 I'm not sure if you're not a marriage. 1.00

00:30:18.000 They do that too. 0.97

00:30:19.000 That's how it keeps your dickheart. 0.92

00:30:21.000 None of them abstain ever. 0.98

00:30:22.000 They never abstain. 0.98

00:30:23.000 You're never going to find a single gay virgin. 1.00

00:30:25.000 They come out of the gate thinging their own butt. 1.00

00:30:29.000 They really had a wedding in the middle of a fight? 1.00

00:30:31.000 No, you fuckhead. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:30:35.000 We have an eight-year-old on the podcast.

00:30:36.000 We have to explain things to him that should be obvious.

00:30:39.000 I thought you really said there was. 0.96

00:30:40.000 And I was like, wait, that's ridiculous. 0.84

00:30:42.000 That's a good idea, though. 0.87

00:30:43.000 Everyone would know about your wedding. 0.99

00:30:44.000 I'm so deadpanned about everything that people can't even tell when I'm joking about shit. 0.99

00:30:48.000 Yeah, I could tell. 0.99

00:30:50.000 9.9% of the people listening can tell.

00:30:53.000 Brian's half awake.

00:30:54.000 He woke up 15 minutes ago.

00:30:56.000 He hasn't had his bulletproof coffee yet.

00:30:57.000 He's already worked out today.

00:30:59.000 Maybe that's what it is.

00:31:00.000 You're tired.

00:31:01.000 But the illegal immigration thing, it's like, if we want to solve this, instead of putting all these Judge Dredd Border Patrol people along the border, which I don't think is a terrible idea because we do need some border protection, but it's enormously expensive.

00:31:11.000 It's dehumanizing.

00:31:12.000 We're rounding these people up like animals. 0.99

00:31:14.000 Why don't we start by making it so that American corporations stop fucking promoting them coming over here? 0.99

00:31:19.000 If we were not giving them any kind of jobs, the immigration would to a large extent stop. 0.98

00:31:24.000 They're coming over here because it sucks in Mexico and they can get jobs here and send money. 1.00

00:31:28.000 Yeah, but I don't think the rational response is stop giving them jobs once they get here because it's never going to happen.

00:31:37.000 There's always going to be landscapers and there's always going to be construction workers.

00:31:41.000 Agriculture, like any vegetables you buy in the supermarket have probably been picked by illegal day laborers. 1.00

00:31:46.000 Sure.

00:31:47.000 Go to Oxnard and get a strawberry.

00:31:48.000 Who are you getting it from? 1.00

00:31:49.000 You're getting that shit from someone who probably came to America to find a better life for their family. 1.00

00:31:54.000 So I don't think you can say that corporations are at fault. 0.99

00:31:57.000 Human beings should be allowed to go to a better place. 0.99

00:32:00.000 You should be allowed to take your fucking family to a better place. 0.99

00:32:02.000 And everybody over here that's got it good is scared that these poor people are going to come over here and fuck everything up. 1.00

00:32:08.000 And that's what the real fear is. 0.92

00:32:11.000 What an antiquated idea that is.

00:32:11.000 What about passports?

00:32:13.000 because I think as long as you're not on the Interpol list and you're not wanted for something, you should just be able to go wherever you want.

00:32:18.000 As long as it's an allied country, you shouldn't need a passport that's valid because it's like... 0.81

00:32:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I guess you need some kind of system, but I think it can be done with what they have already.

00:32:31.000 Like they know what you're doing at every second of the day. 0.99

00:32:33.000 This is what's so Orwellian and fucked up. 0.93

00:32:35.000 It's like yesterday was tax day and we saw all this stuff like make sure you file your taxes on time. 0.98

00:32:40.000 And it's like, what is this?

00:32:42.000 Like what kind of mind bender is this?

00:32:44.000 We know that the NSA is sharing data with agencies like the IRS, giving them, you know, we know that they're sharing financial data with those kinds of agencies.

00:32:51.000 And the IRS knows exactly how much you owe because they get the 1099s every year from the people who pay you more than $600.

00:32:58.000 So they know everything. 0.99

00:32:59.000 Why don't they just send you a fucking bill? 0.99

00:33:00.000 And then if there's a problem, you can dispute it the same as a credit card bill. 0.99

00:33:04.000 Instead of like, I've got a guess to make sure that I'm paying the right amount.

00:33:07.000 And if I don't match their number, they go, uh-uh-uh, we have right here.

00:33:11.000 Even Donald Rumsfeld, who I consider to be the closest thing to like the man that's out there, tweeted out the other day about how the IRS is just out of control.

00:33:19.000 Like it makes no sense anymore.

00:33:21.000 It's not a logical thing.

00:33:23.000 Because Democrats are in office.

00:33:24.000 It's just partisan.

00:33:26.000 He's just attacking the other side.

00:33:28.000 But I think in general, why don't you just send me a bill?

00:33:31.000 Just send me a bill.

00:33:32.000 And in most cases, I think most people be like, oh, this is what I owe.

00:33:34.000 Cool. 0.99

00:33:34.000 20%, 25%, whatever the fuck it is. 0.99

00:33:36.000 People can pay it. 0.98

00:33:37.000 Because that's how it works for cable.

00:33:38.000 It's how it works for your credit card, for your car payment.

00:33:41.000 Why isn't your tax bill the same way?

00:33:43.000 Because they don't want people to pay or get money back.

00:33:45.000 Most people get money back that I know of.

00:33:47.000 Unless you're making over a certain amount of money, you actually get money back.

00:33:51.000 Everyone's like, oh, I get my tax check. 1.00

00:33:53.000 Well, here's a fucker. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Here's a fucker. 1.00

00:33:56.000 State taxes. 1.00

00:33:57.000 You don't always have to pay them. 1.00

00:33:58.000 That's the fucker. 0.98

00:33:59.000 Like if we lived in Washington State or if we lived in Vegas or I think Texas as well, Florida, a few places, you don't have to pay the state taxes. 1.00

00:34:08.000 That's 10%.

00:34:09.000 So if you live, say if you make a nice living, you know, you make, let's go with $100,000 a year because it's easy.

00:34:15.000 You make $100,000 a year, you're giving $10,000 to the state of California.

00:34:19.000 So you're paying $10,000 just to live here.

00:34:22.000 So imagine if your rent was $1,000 and then on top of that, you pay another $1,000 to the state.

00:34:27.000 That is what you're doing if you live in California or if you live in a place that has state taxes.

00:34:33.000 Like, how does Washington state survive?

00:34:36.000 How come they don't have to steal my money?

00:34:38.000 Like, what's going on here that Vegas doesn't need that 10%? 0.85

00:34:42.000 What's going on here that Texas has figured out how to fucking stay afloat without stealing money from the people that live there? 0.57

00:34:48.000 Like, what is a state tax? 0.97

00:34:51.000 Everybody gets a piece?

00:34:52.000 So you can hire more people to do a shitty job of running things and just keep putting jobs on the books to eat up tax revenue? 0.98

00:34:52.000 What? 0.98

00:35:02.000 We added 100,000 jobs.

00:35:04.000 You should be fired.

00:35:05.000 The government should be fired for creating any jobs.

00:35:08.000 If you're creating more jobs than you already have, that means there's more government.

00:35:12.000 More government should mean you're fired. 0.99

00:35:14.000 You're fucking up. 1.00

00:35:15.000 We don't need more government. 1.00

00:35:16.000 You need less people telling you what to do and less shit that's illegal. 0.96

00:35:20.000 That would smooth things out for so many people and let drugs be legal. 0.98

00:35:26.000 Boom, I balance your economy.

00:35:28.000 It's done.

00:35:29.000 It's over.

00:35:30.000 I still think Obama, the other day I was in Venice Beach getting lunch and I got a beer and a burger and enjoyed something that's known to the state of California to have medicinal benefit.

00:35:40.000 And I looked up in the, whatever this place was, this restaurant, and right over the door was a picture of Obama from his Hawaii days.

00:35:47.000 He had the hat on and he was smoking a doobie. 0.52

00:35:49.000 And for like a half a second, I thought, that's my guy right there.

00:35:53.000 That's 2008 campaign trail Obama.

00:35:55.000 And then, of course, that's not what we got.

00:35:57.000 We got Smart Bush instead.

00:35:58.000 We got somebody who can come onto the tonight show or the view or something and just have the hosts eating out of his hand by the end of the interview. 0.99

00:36:07.000 So he's much smarter and more eloquent, but is still doing a lot of the crazy shit that Bush was doing. 0.88

00:36:12.000 And I think that he could still kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for? 0.96

00:36:17.000 Like come out ahead and like still come across as a good president if you were to just legalize weed at the federal level.

00:36:25.000 I think most people be like, oh, okay, he actually did something meaningful that will be around 50 years from now. 0.58

00:36:30.000 And it's not just like, I'm going to find the shit out of you if you don't sign up for my healthcare website. 0.72

00:36:35.000 And I've done more drone strikes than any other president in history. 0.98

00:36:39.000 I've allowed NSA programs to expand and said almost nothing in response. 0.99

00:36:44.000 Even with all that shit, which I think is awful, legalize weed at the federal level. 0.99

00:36:49.000 And I would rate him as a good president. 1.00

00:36:51.000 You're hilarious.

00:36:52.000 First of all, I don't think that that's a joint.

00:36:54.000 I think that picture is a cigarette.

00:36:56.000 I've looked at it many times.

00:36:57.000 I've studied it like the Sapruder film.

00:36:59.000 Let's look at it quite closely.

00:37:01.000 Have you ever noticed this when you're high?

00:37:02.000 Like everything seems to be a reminder that you're high?

00:37:06.000 No, because I've been getting high longer than you, son.

00:37:08.000 Yeah, but look how he's holding it.

00:37:10.000 I never hold a cigarette like that.

00:37:12.000 He's really enjoying it.

00:37:13.000 Yeah, I mean, let me see. 1.00

00:37:15.000 Close in on that, bitch. 1.00

00:37:16.000 Let's get a CSI on this one. 1.00

00:37:20.000 Get it closer.

00:37:21.000 Look how it's not like, like it looks squished and stuff like it's a roll joint.

00:37:25.000 Look at the smoke signature.

00:37:26.000 And you know what?

00:37:29.000 Here's another point.

00:37:31.000 Look how far down he's already smoking it.

00:37:34.000 He would basically be in the filter if it was a cigarette.

00:37:37.000 You're right.

00:37:37.000 100%.

00:37:38.000 Unless he rolled his own cigarette as a cowboy.

00:37:42.000 I know dudes who do that.

00:37:43.000 He can't roll menthols. 1.00

00:37:45.000 Oh, you made a black joke, you fuck. 1.00

00:37:48.000 How dare you? 1.00

00:37:50.000 He's the commander-in-chief.

00:37:52.000 You're a man-boy.

00:37:54.000 And he's the commander-in-chief. 1.00

00:37:56.000 You son of a bitch. 1.00

00:37:58.000 Does he smoke menthols? 1.00

00:38:00.000 Because he used to smoke, right?

00:38:01.000 I think Michelle made him quit cigarettes. 1.00

00:38:04.000 When you're the goddamn president, you can't smoke anymore because it's the stupidest thing people do. 1.00

00:38:08.000 He does. 1.00

00:38:09.000 You think he does?

00:38:10.000 He was smoking in office, at least his first term, and that job is so stressful, there's no way you're quitting smoking while you're a president. 1.00

00:38:10.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:38:18.000 Yeah, you could quit. 1.00

00:38:19.000 You could quit if you really wanted to.

00:38:20.000 So funny to think about him having a window open in the Oval Office. 1.00

00:38:23.000 And just fucking puffing butts. 0.99

00:38:26.000 I mean, think of just the amount of stress that he's going through anyway. 0.99

00:38:30.000 Your cigarettes are not going to relieve that. 1.00

00:38:31.000 The kind of stress that you must be going through to be the goddamn president. 0.99

00:38:34.000 I mean, your hair goes white. 1.00

00:38:35.000 Yeah.

00:38:36.000 Well, that's why I try not to be super anti-Obama because once he's gone in two years, it's going to be somebody else. 0.98

00:38:42.000 And like 98% of the shit we're complaining about right now will still exist. 0.98

00:38:46.000 I quit smoking because of Michelle. 0.99

00:38:48.000 Aww, sweetie.

00:38:49.000 Six years.

00:38:50.000 They do seem like a nice couple.

00:38:52.000 Like, they really do seem like they like each other.

00:38:53.000 I mean, I don't know. 0.96

00:38:54.000 People are good at bullshitting, but. 0.96

00:38:56.000 Well, conservatives attack her for promoting healthy eating habits. 0.68

00:39:01.000 And I'm like, of all the things for a first lady to be doing, I think this is the best use of big government. 1.00

00:39:08.000 Let's encourage people to eat healthy.

00:39:10.000 It's much better than spying on everybody else.

00:39:12.000 Screw a garden. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Shagrew a garden at the White House, growing vegetables and shit. 1.00

00:39:15.000 Yeah, sustainability and making your own food. 0.99

00:39:17.000 That's good stuff.

00:39:18.000 Yeah, I don't think anybody can be a good president. 0.98

00:39:21.000 I think the machine behind government is too fucking big. 0.58

00:39:24.000 It's like what we were talking about, about corporations and the constant need for, These corporations need to constantly keep growing. 0.92

00:39:38.000 And that's really not possible.

00:39:40.000 It's really not possible.

00:39:41.000 And that they, when a corporation starts acting like that sort of money generating machine, and that's the bottom line, is it always has to continue to generate money no matter what, they come up with all sorts of compromises, compromise of ethics, compromises of morals, just so that they can figure out a way to continue to raise that bottom line, keep that money coming in.

00:40:02.000 And I think essentially the government at a certain point becomes that.

00:40:06.000 I mean, it's what Eisenhower warned about when he was leaving office, the military-industrial complex taking over.

00:40:11.000 And even if it's not the direct reason why something happens, even if it wasn't a financial reason why there is a military action and why we go to war, once we're there and the money is pouring in to these contractors, the money's pouring into weapons manufacturers, the money's pouring in.

00:40:34.000 Cutting that money off and having a justification, you're going to get resistance. 0.97

00:40:38.000 And you're going to get resistance from incredibly powerful people with incredibly influential ties that have a lot of fucking money. 0.97

00:40:46.000 And that is a fact. 0.95

00:40:48.000 And that's unavoidable.

00:40:49.000 And that's just mathematics, human nature 101.

00:40:53.000 It's real simple. 0.99

00:40:54.000 We're greedy bitches. 1.00

00:40:55.000 And that's why I'm excited about digital money because I honestly agree with you. 0.99

00:41:00.000 The structure is not going to change.

00:41:02.000 And it's because of what you just said that these powerful people want their budgets to remain at least where they are and probably much larger in the future because they have people on their payroll and they want to keep those TSA jobs.

00:41:14.000 They want to keep those NSA analyst jobs.

00:41:16.000 They want to buy a weekend home.

00:41:17.000 Yeah.

00:41:18.000 So it's all, I think it's like 80% about money. 0.99

00:41:21.000 And all this shit is funded because the government is printing its own money. 0.99

00:41:26.000 And then that's what we use as currency. 0.99

00:41:28.000 And I really don't think that, so if the issue is structural and not personality, in other words, like Obama is not responsible for all the problems in this country because a lot of this shit started under Bush. 0.97

00:41:38.000 A lot of it started under Clinton. 0.96

00:41:39.000 A lot of it started under Reagan.

00:41:40.000 A lot of it started 30 years ago.

00:41:42.000 So if it's not personality driven, the problem, and it's just structure-driven, the only way you'll see change is to change the structure itself.

00:41:51.000 Do you think that as new people come into government, that that same structure is going to keep, is going to stay in the same form?

00:41:58.000 It's going to destroy them as well.

00:42:01.000 They get sucked into it like the Wolf of Wall Street guy.

00:42:03.000 Yeah, well.

00:42:04.000 They just become a part of it.

00:42:05.000 Even if you become a congressman, you're not getting on the important committees. 0.99

00:42:08.000 You're just sitting in the back and you have one vote out of 450 fucking people. 0.93

00:42:11.000 So you get on TV and you get to have a moral voice, but in terms of changing the direction the government goes, you don't have much say. 0.96

00:42:19.000 And how many people in Congress are actually legit young people that we can relate to?

00:42:23.000 I can name two.

00:42:24.000 And then there's Ron Wyden, who's older, but still to me seems like he's an honest guy.

00:42:29.000 So I can think of three people between the Congress and Senate who I would trust to actually represent everyday people's interests.

00:42:36.000 Do you think that it's even necessary to have a government that's established and set up the way we have it today with representatives when the access to communication is so instantaneous?

00:42:47.000 It's like the whole idea of having a senator or having a congressman or having a representative is like there was no way for the people to just go and individually talk and give their opinions on things.

00:42:59.000 There was no way. 0.99

00:43:00.000 There's too many fucking people. 1.00

00:43:02.000 And they're too far apart from each other. 1.00

00:43:04.000 It would take, you know, when the country was established, you had to literally ride an animal across the country. 1.00

00:43:08.000 I mean, that's the dumbest fucking idea. 0.99

00:43:11.000 Could you imagine if today everyone outlawed cars, we ought to ride horses. 1.00

00:43:15.000 And there was no more internet. 0.99

00:43:16.000 How the fuck would you ever pass a law? 0.72

00:43:19.000 How would you ever, you know, state laws? 0.97

00:43:21.000 How would you ever deal with the federal government's influence?

00:43:25.000 It would be so baffling.

00:43:27.000 But I think the founding fathers, we always assumed that a representative democracy was put into place because of the technical limitations.

00:43:35.000 Like you just said, it's impossible to get everybody to D.C. to tally up where their votes would lie.

00:43:40.000 So instead we use representatives and we send them.

00:43:43.000 And we assume that that's the only reason why they chose this structure.

00:43:47.000 And I don't think it is. 0.99

00:43:48.000 I think part of it is that they were terrified of dumb people. 0.98

00:43:50.000 They were actually worried about mob rule because they'd seen that happen in other governments. 0.99

00:43:54.000 And you see it happen today. 0.98

00:43:55.000 Like Reddit, 95% of the time is on top of its shit and is a great source of information. 1.00

00:44:00.000 What about the 5% of the time where they find the wrong fucking suspect for the Boston bombing? 1.00

00:44:05.000 That shit goes to the front page and some guy's life is ruined for the next six months or possibly forever. 1.00

00:44:09.000 You know, he's never going to be able to get a job because you Google that name. 1.00

00:44:12.000 First thing you see is Boston bombing suspect.

00:44:15.000 Even if he's cleared, you don't want to hire that person. 0.75

00:44:18.000 And that's a case where the crowd mind fucks up. 0.98

00:44:21.000 And if we give everybody instant access to real say in government, first of all, I think it's a good idea because I think overall the good wins out over the bullshit. 0.98

00:44:30.000 But I'm just trying to give an example of, I think, why they chose that representative system. 0.51

00:44:36.000 I think you're probably right. 0.98

00:44:37.000 I think that's definitely a valid point is that there are dumb people and they can gather together and it gets fucking terrifying when you're just dealing with a one person, one vote sort of a paradigm. 0.96

00:44:47.000 Did you see what's going on in Reddit where people are being outed as being paid posters and paid shills to post in these conspiracy theory sites? 0.97

00:44:56.000 I didn't see that.

00:44:57.000 What I saw recently is that the technology subreddit, which is one of the most popular, is using a bot to automatically filter out posts.

00:45:06.000 And somebody did research and posted the keywords that this bot is filtering.

00:45:10.000 And it's like serious thought control.

00:45:12.000 Like, you're not allowed to publish a headline that has the word Tesla in it, you know, like the electric car company.

00:45:17.000 Not allowed to have the word Bitcoin, not allowed to have the word NSA.

00:45:21.000 Like Keith Alexander?

00:45:21.000 What?

00:45:23.000 You got to look this thing up.

00:45:24.000 Wait a minute.

00:45:25.000 That's crazy.

00:45:26.000 This is Reddit?

00:45:27.000 This is the technology subreddit. 1.00

00:45:29.000 It's this big controversy now because people are like, well, this is fucking retarded. 0.99

00:45:32.000 How could they stop that? 0.98

00:45:33.000 Are they trying to prevent advertising?

00:45:34.000 Like, what are they trying to do?

00:45:36.000 I think the original intent was to not have the whole page filled with basically the same story.

00:45:42.000 Like, if there's a big NSA revelation, you have 10 articles and it's all the same content, but just like different people saying the same thing.

00:45:49.000 I think that was the original intent, but it's also like, why don't you let Reddit do Reddit?

00:45:54.000 Like, the whole point is good content gets upvoted.

00:45:57.000 People aren't interested, they'll get rid of it on their own.

00:46:01.000 What is that, Brian?

00:46:01.000 What do you got there?

00:46:02.000 Reddit.

00:46:02.000 Just showing Reddit.

00:46:03.000 Why are you showing Deskwads Reddit?

00:46:04.000 I want to see what he's talking about.

00:46:06.000 The technology subreddit.

00:46:06.000 I don't know what that is.

00:46:08.000 Type in Reddit and Daily Dot, and the article should come up.

00:46:12.000 Yeah.

00:46:12.000 Daily Dot.

00:46:14.000 Wow.

00:46:15.000 That's...

00:46:22.000 Now, is Tesla such a popular subject that they had to do that?

00:46:28.000 I mean, how many different articles are written about Teslas that they had to use that word?

00:46:32.000 Well, the other issue is if that's what people are interested in this week, why don't you let that rise to the top? 0.97

00:46:37.000 Like, who the fuck are you to create this false structure? 0.95

00:46:40.000 Like, you're not allowed to talk about the NSA. 0.98

00:46:42.000 Well, that affects every facet of people's technology right now.

00:46:44.000 And, you know, like, it's huge.

00:46:46.000 That's insane.

00:46:47.000 What if some new news comes out and it has to do with the Tesla and NSA?

00:46:52.000 And you literally can't make the post.

00:46:55.000 I want people to see this article so they just know that I'm not like making it up.

00:46:59.000 What's it called?

00:47:00.000 Give me the title of what it is.

00:47:02.000 It was an article in the Daily Dot, and it was like Reddit technology subreddit something.

00:47:10.000 Okay, I'm just Googling Daily Dot.

00:47:13.000 Reddit's mods are censoring dozens of words from our technology posts.

00:47:17.000 That's the thing.

00:47:18.000 Say what you want about Reddit's technology.

00:47:21.000 One of the popular forums, blah, blah, blah, one of its most popular forums.

00:47:25.000 Just don't say NSA, net neutrality, Comcast, Bitcoin, or any of the roughly 50 other words that will secretly get your post deleted. 0.99

00:47:36.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:47:37.000 Isn't that crazy? 0.98

00:47:38.000 There's a bot in R slash technology ready to delete any so-called controversial headline you try to submit.

00:47:46.000 That's unbelievable.

00:47:47.000 A headline about net neutrality gets deleted?

00:47:50.000 That's insane.

00:47:52.000 In July, Reddit dropped two controversial subreddits, R Atheism and R Politics, from being automatic subscriptions for new users.

00:48:01.000 See, that's kind of Orwellian too.

00:48:03.000 It's like, why is politics controversial?

00:48:06.000 That's a big part of why people visit sites like Reddit is to see what's happening in the political world.

00:48:11.000 And you just had Alexis on, right?

00:48:14.000 Yes.

00:48:15.000 Maybe you could email him and try to get him to fix technology.

00:48:17.000 Maybe I could.

00:48:18.000 I will try, but I don't think he's involved in the day-to-day anymore.

00:48:22.000 From what I understand, this is not like Reddit's staff doing this.

00:48:24.000 It's these mods who are volunteers.

00:48:26.000 And once you become a mod, it's very hard to get rid of you.

00:48:29.000 And there's like no accountability. 0.99

00:48:30.000 Like, we don't know who these fucking people are. 0.99

00:48:32.000 All we know is the actions they take. 1.00

00:48:34.000 Right.

00:48:34.000 We don't, like, honestly, like, how do we know that a technology mod is not some shill for the fossil fuel industry who just doesn't want to see Tesla rise to the top?

00:48:42.000 We don't know that.

00:48:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:44.000 I'm emailing him right now to ask him what the hell this is.

00:48:48.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:48:50.000 It doesn't make any sense why they would do that.

00:48:52.000 Like, why would you have net neutrality?

00:48:55.000 What are you doing, dude?

00:48:56.000 I'm just going to type all the keywords into a post and try to make a thread and see what happens.

00:49:02.000 Can you buy a new Tesla with Bitcoin?

00:49:04.000 Yeah.

00:49:05.000 Can you buy a new Tesla?

00:49:10.000 With Bitcoin.

00:49:14.000 Tower 7.

00:49:16.000 That's how you make sure that your conversation is always logged by the NSA.

00:49:19.000 Just close it with Tower 7.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, that's the big one, right?

00:49:26.000 People love that one.

00:49:27.000 Tower 7's a juicy one.

00:49:28.000 Any conspiracy theorist that doesn't have an opinion about Tower 7 is not worth his salt.

00:49:33.000 You better have an opinion. 0.94

00:49:34.000 But Eddie Bravo will fucking hold you down until you tell him that Tower 7 was a demolition. 0.99

00:49:40.000 We'll fucking hold you down, man. 0.99

00:49:42.000 He doesn't. 0.99

00:49:42.000 You can't say, I don't know. 0.99

00:49:43.000 You would if you had a guess.

00:49:45.000 I don't know.

00:49:46.000 But if your life depended on it, does it?

00:49:48.000 I don't know.

00:49:49.000 I don't know.

00:49:50.000 Yeah.

00:49:52.000 All right, I made the thread.

00:49:54.000 Did it work?

00:49:55.000 It seems like it worked.

00:49:56.000 It went up.

00:49:56.000 We'll see how long until the Reddit SWAT team deletes your post.

00:49:59.000 But it's not...

00:50:03.000 What does it say?

00:50:05.000 Try to submit it again.

00:50:06.000 It said you already submitted it.

00:50:08.000 Oh, the link's already been submitted.

00:50:10.000 What, did you double submit?

00:50:11.000 No, I just put in because you have to put a link down, so I didn't know what to link it to.

00:50:15.000 I'll put it linked to your website and see what happens.

00:50:17.000 Don't do that.

00:50:18.000 I'll get in trouble. 1.00

00:50:20.000 Link it to your own website, stupid. 1.00

00:50:22.000 Or you're going to link in your shit to my shit. 1.00

00:50:24.000 Yeah, or you'll get the podcast banned from Reddit. 1.00

00:50:26.000 Yeah, I'm not doing it anymore.

00:50:27.000 I don't think it would.

00:50:29.000 I would email Alexis and get to the pod.

00:50:32.000 He was cool.

00:50:33.000 Interesting story.

00:50:34.000 Cool dude.

00:50:35.000 It's funny because he's... 0.98

00:50:37.000 I think it's important to have guys like that who are willing to speak out for things that are really important instead of just taking the money and being like, I'm just going to go fuck hot models and live on... 0.97

00:50:53.000 I think that's his organization.

00:50:55.000 Well, he's a young idealist who's really smart and he figured out a way to make a shitload of money, came up with a cool thing, and he's kind of continuing along that same trajectory.

00:51:05.000 And people like me definitely notice that.

00:51:08.000 I'm sure in 10 years, he's going to be doing even bigger stuff. 0.98

00:51:12.000 And I think we'll respect the fact that he spoke out when a lot of cowards at companies like, well, I don't need to alienate myself, but companies, like big tech companies, they're not saying shit. 0.97

00:51:21.000 And we know this is wrong. 0.96

00:51:22.000 So why don't you say something?

00:51:23.000 Not only that, we find out that they cooperated with the NSA and gave them backdoors to technology and software.

00:51:29.000 And it's very, very frustrating because you want to think about, I think that one of the unique aspects of technology is the morality that sort of inherently goes with super intelligent people.

00:51:40.000 That there's so much goddamn money in technology that people, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:51:45.000 Let's not be as greedy. 0.97

00:51:46.000 We don't have to be as greedy. 0.98

00:51:48.000 We make so much goddamn money. 0.95

00:51:49.000 But think about how much money Google makes. 0.99

00:51:51.000 What's their motto?

00:51:52.000 Don't be evil.

00:51:54.000 I mean, that's like a really good model for a giant multi-billion dollar corporation.

00:52:00.000 And that's not something that existed anywhere else.

00:52:03.000 Like, it didn't exist with clothing, it didn't exist with giant corporations that were involved in natural resources.

00:52:09.000 You never hear that.

00:52:10.000 You never hear that kind of a motto attached to a gas company.

00:52:15.000 Meanwhile, gas companies make more money than anybody.

00:52:17.000 This new technology and the new money that's coming out of technology is generated by intensely creative and intelligent people.

00:52:27.000 And I think what we're seeing from those people, as opposed to just money grubbers, people that try to, like, something that's not as complex as technology, sort of doesn't have the same thought process behind it.

00:52:42.000 There's not as much introspective thinking.

00:52:44.000 There's not as much ethical calculations.

00:52:47.000 It's a different way of looking at the world that I think is being presented by tech companies that, in my opinion, is very promising.

00:52:57.000 Because I think it gives you a lot of hope for the future when you see, like, this is a trend.

00:53:01.000 It's a very obvious trend, in my opinion, that these guys are more ethical and more moral and more conscious.

00:53:08.000 It's more globally conscious.

00:53:10.000 It's a more optimistic view of the world. 0.80

00:53:12.000 And I think if you're a recent person entering the workforce for the first time and you're looking at jobs online, really hold out and don't go for the shitty defense contractor that you know is doing evil stuff.

00:53:24.000 Go instead for the company that is creating cool apps or creating new efficiencies and payments or whatever it is that you're interested in.

00:53:32.000 Do that instead because technology can go in so many different directions. 0.96

00:53:37.000 You don't want to be the person creating the marketing for the next fucking range of drones.

00:53:41.000 You want to be the person working at Google or even Microsoft and just creating better search because even things like that create more of a positive impact on humanity than I think almost anything else. 0.99

00:53:52.000 And I think that the rest of the world is slowly but surely forcing America to catch the fuck up on a lot of our archaic shit. 0.98

00:54:00.000 Like Canada. 0.99

00:54:01.000 Canada just released all limitations on prostitution.

00:54:06.000 They just said, stop.

00:54:07.000 Who cares?

00:54:08.000 Is that like the Rob Ford Act of 2014?

00:54:11.000 No, that's crack.

00:54:12.000 Crack's now legal.

00:54:13.000 The mayor can smoke it in office and still stay there.

00:54:16.000 He's a phenomenal being.

00:54:17.000 I was watching some of his. 0.96

00:54:18.000 He's a fat guy that does blow.

00:54:20.000 What's phenomenal about that? 0.94

00:54:21.000 And he became mayor of Toronto.

00:54:23.000 It's crazy.

00:54:24.000 Yeah, it's amazing that he's still mayor.

00:54:27.000 Don't you have to do debates or something? 0.62

00:54:30.000 They don't realize that he's crazy right away. 0.99

00:54:32.000 Well, how the fuck did Bush get in office? 0.99

00:54:34.000 You know, I mean, people like people that are like them. 1.00

00:54:36.000 There's a lot of fat cokeheads out there. 1.00

00:54:38.000 In Toronto, I guess. 0.98

00:54:39.000 But they're not.

00:54:40.000 Toronto's an amazing spot.

00:54:42.000 It's a really powerful financial space.

00:54:43.000 Brian, don't put that up.

00:54:44.000 He's getting us pulled down from YouTube. 0.98

00:54:46.000 Every time we put a YouTube clip up these days, we're getting fucking pulled down.

00:54:50.000 But the other thing that's cool about the tech world is that they're very, they hold nothing sacred.

00:54:56.000 So in the 90s, they're like, we're going to reinvent communication.

00:54:59.000 And they did that with email and instant messenger and then all the more advanced shit that came after, like social media. 0.54

00:55:06.000 And now they've turned their eyes to money. 0.71

00:55:08.000 And they're like, we're going to reinvent money.

00:55:09.000 We're no longer happy with massaging the balls of these credit card companies and getting a small fee in return.

00:55:15.000 We want to own the whole process from start to finish.

00:55:18.000 We want it to be faster.

00:55:20.000 We don't want to get clearance from credit card companies before we change our marketing or our design.

00:55:25.000 And we just want to have total freedom.

00:55:27.000 You know, it's the same with like with what Google does.

00:55:30.000 They don't really ask for permission before indexing your site.

00:55:33.000 They just do it.

00:55:34.000 Right.

00:55:35.000 And I think that's a really positive force in the world.

00:55:37.000 Like, who is it that says do it and then ask permission later?

00:55:41.000 Like, obviously.

00:55:42.000 Who's that?

00:55:43.000 It's some like business guru.

00:55:46.000 I forget who it was.

00:55:47.000 It's either like Branson or somebody like that.

00:55:50.000 I just read it recently.

00:55:52.000 But I think that's a great mindset.

00:55:54.000 And it's so much better than the government mindset of, are you following all the regulations?

00:55:58.000 Like, it was never supposed to be the American way that the first thing you think about is what is the government going to think?

00:56:04.000 It's better to ask for forgiveness or beg for forgiveness than to ask for permission.

00:56:08.000 That's it.

00:56:09.000 I think that that's all well and good except for environmental concerns.

00:56:13.000 Oh, I totally.

00:56:15.000 The real issue is when people do things and they don't ask and then you deal with a cleanup.

00:56:21.000 Well, we agree as a society to play this game where the individual can be enriched if you're smart.

00:56:26.000 And that game is capitalism.

00:56:27.000 And we continue to play it because it's more efficient than anything else.

00:56:30.000 But I think you do need to have referees who say, okay, so we're playing this game where you can make a lot of money if you do something that's more efficient than anybody else.

00:56:38.000 Or you do it cooler, or you do it faster.

00:56:40.000 But if you're fucking up a shared resource, then that's where the government steps in and tells you you can't do this and you have to pay this and you have to fix this because the environment is not owned by corporations.

00:56:52.000 It's actually owned by citizens of the United States and it's owned by citizens of whatever country you happen to be in.

00:56:57.000 Like your land is your land and we all have the shared air.

00:57:01.000 We all have shared oceans. 0.95

00:57:02.000 Like what happens in Japan with their fucked up nuclear reactors affects the sushi here in Los Angeles, at least in theory. 0.88

00:57:08.000 So we have to have a more global mindset. 0.96

00:57:10.000 I know right now, just by saying global mindset, there are at least 10 people saying that I'm like a Bilderberg one world order shill or something. 0.98

00:57:17.000 But really it's fucking stupid to not go more global when everything already is. 0.96

00:57:22.000 It's like right now we're already a global society, but we allow corporations to take advantage of the loopholes and pretend like we're not global. 0.99

00:57:28.000 Why don't we get rid of that?

00:57:30.000 Well, I think that if the internet continues its path right now, the path that we're on right now of the distribution of information, of connecting everybody together, it's going to seem more and more ridiculous that there's nations.

00:57:46.000 It's going to seem more and more ridiculous that there's places that are lines in the dirt that you can't cross through.

00:57:51.000 I mean, it's just weird.

00:57:52.000 It's weird.

00:57:53.000 It's a weird concept.

00:57:54.000 It's weird if there was fences over each state.

00:57:57.000 That would be intolerable, right?

00:57:59.000 But that's not much different than fences over countries.

00:58:02.000 We just decide that it's different.

00:58:04.000 And I think that as we connect with each other more and more and the idea of nations become more and more ridiculous, then the ideas of, oh, like this place owns the resources, like if Ohio, we had to all pay Ohio because that's where all the water came from.

00:58:18.000 People were like, what?

00:58:20.000 Just because you're in the right patch of dirt?

00:58:22.000 You don't want the water from Ohio.

00:58:24.000 You probably get it.

00:58:24.000 It's bad water.

00:58:25.000 Herpe's water.

00:58:26.000 It's great.

00:58:26.000 Great water.

00:58:28.000 Pure.

00:58:29.000 Yeah, you've Done tests.

00:58:32.000 But, you know, I think that what we're saying makes sense ultimately, like from an objective standpoint.

00:58:40.000 It's just that the system that's in place is not an objective system.

00:58:43.000 It's not a rational system.

00:58:44.000 It's a system that runs on momentum.

00:58:46.000 Well, that's again why the digital money thing I think is the first step in actually changing this system because the structure will stay the same. 0.91

00:58:54.000 If we continue to do all the same stuff, 100 years from now, we'll still have countries and passports and drones and all the rest of this shit.

00:59:02.000 The only way is to rethink really fundamental parts of what we're doing.

00:59:06.000 And if we do that, it just changes where the money comes from and it reallocates it to better things.

00:59:11.000 I think that individuals are better deciders of how to spend money than a government agency.

00:59:17.000 No, I think you're right.

00:59:19.000 I think the government agencies, the problem with them is that it's just a bunch of people.

00:59:24.000 You know, the problem, calling something the government and giving it power.

00:59:27.000 You're just giving power to people over people.

00:59:30.000 And at a certain point in time, people need to kind of figure out what they want to give other people power over.

00:59:36.000 You know, do you want to give people power over your sex life?

00:59:38.000 Do you want to give people power over your diet?

00:59:40.000 When New York comes along and says you can't have big gulps anymore, and everybody just goes, okay. 1.00

00:59:46.000 Hey, fuck you. 1.00

00:59:47.000 No, you can't tell me what kind of soda I can drink, dummy. 1.00

00:59:51.000 If I want to drink out a 35-ounce soda or whatever the hell it is, why do you care?

00:59:55.000 I buy a 30-ounce soda.

00:59:57.000 How about I go to the store and I get a one-liter?

00:59:59.000 I get a big, giant, one-liter bottle, and I drink it. 1.00

01:00:02.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:00:03.000 You can't tell me what to eat or what to drink. 1.00

01:00:05.000 What kind of nonsense is that?

01:00:07.000 Have you covered all the bases?

01:00:08.000 Have you solved all the burglaries?

01:00:10.000 Have you solved all the rape cases? 1.00

01:00:12.000 Then shut the fuck up and leave the soda alone. 1.00

01:00:15.000 Well, that's my issue with the whole healthcare.gov thing, too. 0.99

01:00:18.000 It's like, okay, so if it's so good, people should want to sign up for it and you should incentivize them.

01:00:23.000 You should advertise it as you're doing.

01:00:25.000 But you shouldn't make it a requirement. 0.81

01:00:27.000 And it shouldn't be like, we're going to find the shit out of you if you don't sign up.

01:00:30.000 And by the way, every year the fine gets bigger. 0.99

01:00:33.000 That's like some kind of harassment psychological shit, right? 0.97

01:00:35.000 Like 1% this year, 2% next year. 0.99

01:00:37.000 Like, are you a child?

01:00:38.000 You know, like, what is that?

01:00:39.000 It should be totally voluntary.

01:00:41.000 And I got my foot infected recently.

01:00:45.000 I had a blister.

01:00:46.000 It got infected.

01:00:47.000 And I went to one of those walk-in clinics.

01:00:51.000 And it was $79 for the visit.

01:00:53.000 And I didn't see a doctor.

01:00:54.000 It was like an RN or something.

01:00:55.000 Because for just the gross, for some dude's gross foot blister, you don't need a neurosurgeon.

01:01:00.000 You don't have to pay a lot of money.

01:01:01.000 She looked at it in about 30 seconds.

01:01:03.000 She goes, oh yeah, I'm going to prescribe you Keflex.

01:01:05.000 I'm taking it every six hours.

01:01:05.000 She prescribes it.

01:01:07.000 My infection is gone now.

01:01:08.000 I just have to take it for the next few days as a preventive thing.

01:01:12.000 And that prescription with no insurance was $20.

01:01:15.000 So my whole visit was $100.

01:01:18.000 I didn't cost taxpayers anything.

01:01:20.000 I didn't cost myself anything beyond that $100 visit.

01:01:24.000 Why can't we do that?

01:01:25.000 Why can't it just be a product you buy like anything else?

01:01:27.000 Well, don't you think that what happens is exactly what we were talking about before?

01:01:30.000 You're dealing with corporations trying to make a shitload of money.

01:01:33.000 They pay a lot of money to get a politician into office.

01:01:35.000 They lobby, special interest groups, finance campaigns, they get him in.

01:01:40.000 Okay, he's our guy.

01:01:41.000 Now he wants to do Obamacare. 0.98

01:01:43.000 Okay, let's attach this fucking Compassionate Care Act or whatever the hell you want to call it. 0.99

01:01:47.000 Name a name. 0.99

01:01:49.000 We're going to make more money this way.

01:01:50.000 This way we're going to force people to buy, hey, we're going to have more subscriptions.

01:01:53.000 We want more of this and more of that.

01:01:55.000 Don't people out there wonder why the insurance companies were so supportive of what was supposed to be a huge reform of their industry?

01:02:01.000 It's because in exchange, Obama's like, you're going to have a captive audience of every single citizen is now required to buy your product.

01:02:07.000 It's like, what do you think would happen to the price of iPhones if you were required by law to have one on you at all times?

01:02:13.000 It's really the opposite of socialized medicine.

01:02:16.000 It's like a disgusting, like sort of a twist on that system.

01:02:20.000 Like the idea that the government or that the people's taxes, like all the money that we pay in California, this 10% tax thing, state tax, if that went to free health care, I would be super supportive of it.

01:02:31.000 If we found out that the reason why California pays state taxes is that everybody who lives in state tax, in California rather, has free health care.

01:02:38.000 I'd be like, that's fantastic.

01:02:40.000 I would be happy to give up a sizable chunk of my income if I knew that people were being taken care of.

01:02:46.000 Everybody graduates from high school and they're not a retard when they graduate. 1.00

01:02:49.000 They know something about the political world.

01:02:51.000 They know something about they take a psychology class so they don't become some psycho shooter.

01:02:56.000 They understand things about their own psychology.

01:02:58.000 I would be in favor of that.

01:02:59.000 I'd be in favor of a school system that's not completely broken.

01:03:02.000 Well, it's also a school system that's manageable as far as the numbers.

01:03:06.000 When you're a teacher and you've got 40 kids in your class, there's no way you can give them individual attention.

01:03:11.000 There's no way in an hour class.

01:03:13.000 We've got to rethink keeping 40 hormonally charged kids in a room for eight hours a day, sitting in chairs.

01:03:20.000 We've got to rethink that whole paradigm because what you could do is everybody has an iPad. 0.99

01:03:24.000 You read that day's assignment and once a week you all meet up at a fucking Starbucks.

01:03:28.000 And if you have any questions, then the person who's like your RA or TA or whatever is like, okay, yeah, here's how you solve this one. 0.91

01:03:34.000 And then a lot of it could be collaborative online.

01:03:37.000 What do you mean not have a school where they show up at school?

01:03:39.000 Basically just not have a school.

01:03:40.000 And then you limit the risk of some psycho coming to the school and blowing people away.

01:03:45.000 You limit the cost.

01:03:46.000 And you could still have like a school.

01:03:48.000 You could still have like a gym and a shared area for people to hang out and discuss stuff.

01:03:52.000 But why do you need to trap people in a building eight hours a day?

01:03:55.000 Well, I see your point in some ways, but in other ways, that's like a really valuable time for learning human interaction.

01:04:01.000 No, yeah.

01:04:02.000 I mean, I think people are already Asperger-y enough without... 1.00

01:04:11.000 You never have to go outside and interact with people. 0.99

01:04:13.000 Amazon Prime, you just get shit delivered. 0.79

01:04:15.000 We kind of want to keep people as connected as possible. 0.99

01:04:18.000 No, that's a valid point.

01:04:19.000 Especially when they're young.

01:04:21.000 We're thinking out loud.

01:04:22.000 Well, there's some validation to it, too.

01:04:25.000 I mean, I think the idea isn't that it would necessarily keep people from interacting with each other.

01:04:32.000 What it would do is keep people from being forced to be slaves to a system, stuck in a box, learning 50 in a class, one unmotivated teacher, totally ineffective way of going about it.

01:04:44.000 But the big thing about school is that social interaction.

01:04:48.000 It's where you learn how to talk to girls. 1.00

01:04:50.000 It's where you learn clicks.

01:04:52.000 It's where you learn how to deal with negative and positive influences.

01:04:58.000 There's a lot to be learned in school other than just the stuff that they cheat you.

01:05:03.000 Just interacting with each other, it forms the basis, like the framework of how we interact when we get into the workplace.

01:05:09.000 Yeah, and your brain needs that development.

01:05:12.000 Well, I think that, you know, otherwise you're dealing with wild people, just wild people that have never.

01:05:17.000 And then you're going to have to try to hire those people and get them to be in your cubicle all day.

01:05:22.000 It's like a cat that hasn't been domesticated.

01:05:24.000 Exactly.

01:05:25.000 You ever have a feral cat?

01:05:26.000 You ever have a feral cat?

01:05:27.000 I've never had one, but I've interacted with them before, and they just do whatever they want.

01:05:31.000 Yeah, I had a feral cat.

01:05:33.000 I was the only one who could pick him up.

01:05:34.000 If anybody else tried to pick him up, even if I picked him up, he'd hiss, and then I'd pick him up, but he would relax.

01:05:40.000 Once I started petting him, he'd purr like crazy, like, you're not trying to kill me.

01:05:44.000 But he was a constant freak out.

01:05:45.000 I mean, you're going to get a little bit of that mingling.

01:05:49.000 And you're also not going to be able to pick out the psychos is easy.

01:05:52.000 You're not constantly looking at, like, Billy's bringing skinned cats to school. 0.99

01:05:56.000 Like, maybe we should sit down with his fucking parents and find out what's going on with Billy. 0.99

01:06:00.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:06:00.000 See it coming. 1.00

01:06:02.000 Well, there was this story recently of some guy who shot up a synagogue, I think.

01:06:07.000 The most recent guy?

01:06:08.000 Yeah, Kansas City guy? 1.00

01:06:10.000 Yeah, I read the article, and it was like he had been saying for a while, like, I want to kill Jews. 0.86

01:06:16.000 And if somebody is literally thinking the same things as Hitler, like, maybe, maybe somebody should take note of that and bring that guy in for a psychological evaluation.

01:06:25.000 Yeah, have a little sit-down with Homeboy and find out how serious he is about this project.

01:06:28.000 Yeah, and since the NSA is already logging all our stuff, maybe you check his credit card records.

01:06:32.000 Did he just buy a gun last week?

01:06:34.000 Then you have correlation. 0.99

01:06:35.000 And that's where I think this stuff could actually be useful instead of just expensive bullshit. 0.97

01:06:40.000 He's maxed out. 0.97

01:06:40.000 Let's see here. 0.97

01:06:41.000 He bought 300 copies of Mein Kampf.

01:06:44.000 Hmm.

01:06:45.000 Might want to pay him a visit.

01:06:45.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 Might want to sit down and talk about why he needs all that ammo.

01:06:49.000 Huh.

01:06:51.000 There's no way they can keep track. 0.96

01:06:52.000 That's the thing about people monitoring people's cell phones and shit and all that stuff. 0.94

01:06:56.000 The idea that there's someone assigned to David Seaman listening to every call, it's hilarious. 0.97

01:07:02.000 It's truly hilarious because the amount of data you're talking about, it's fucking staggering for one person.

01:07:07.000 Even how fast we browse the internet now, like I'll be on a website for about eight seconds and click like seven other tabs.

01:07:14.000 It's a lot of data.

01:07:15.000 It's too much.

01:07:16.000 If you look at your own history, you ever try to look at your own history because you're trying to look for a website that you saw that you forgot to bookmark and you go through your own history like, oh, so much. 0.98

01:07:27.000 The amount of shit that we're exposed to today as opposed to our grandparents is just unbelievable. 0.98

01:07:32.000 It's unbelievable for the mind. 0.99

01:07:34.000 I would love to see if they could go back in time and take a guy from the 1900s, like 1919, take him and put electrodes on his brain and find out like what kind of, what gets stimulated during a regular day, a regular eight-hour day.

01:07:50.000 And then take a guy from 2014 in Manhattan.

01:07:54.000 Same program, run it on his brain and find out what's going on in his brain.

01:07:58.000 I bet one of them looks like a firefly buzzing around a campfire and the other one looks like a fireworks display, like the grand finale of Disneyland. 1.00

01:08:09.000 The amount of information just slamming into your fucking synapses. 0.99

01:08:14.000 It's just, we're not designed for this, man. 1.00

01:08:16.000 We're not designed. 0.97

01:08:17.000 So I think part of what we're doing when we're trying to manage civilization is we're trying to catch up to all this shit that's happened that's been erupting all around us. 0.99

01:08:28.000 We're like, that, and then there's this, and then fucking, that's what I'm saying. 0.98

01:08:34.000 That's how the government's been responding to Bitcoin recently. 1.00

01:08:37.000 It's like if you look at an internet meme of a dumb dog, like some dumb, oblivious dog, governments and like some of these big vested banks that have been around forever are on the railroad tracks, this dumbass dog looking at a train coming in their direction. 0.99

01:08:52.000 And they're like, is this something that's going to affect me? 0.99

01:08:55.000 It's like, and it's not just any train. 0.99

01:08:56.000 It's a fucking bullet train moving at 350 miles an hour. 0.99

01:08:58.000 And whenever that train hits the dog, it's not even going to feel it. 1.00

01:09:02.000 It's going to be just an explosion of disgusting flesh and fur.

01:09:05.000 But that's what they're at right now is a combination of curiosity, a bit of animosity, and like, how is this going to affect us?

01:09:12.000 It's like, it'd be like record companies looking at Napster and going, this is interesting.

01:09:16.000 Is this going to affect our bottom line at all?

01:09:18.000 Well, it's also just the sheer amount of different things that you would have to pay attention to to truly manage.

01:09:25.000 Like the idea of being a president in 1919 was a really rational idea.

01:09:31.000 You could have a guy who would manage our budget and the military and this guy's assigned to do defense and this is, you know. 0.95

01:09:38.000 But in 2014, good goddamn luck. 0.83

01:09:43.000 There's too many things. 0.97

01:09:44.000 There's no way any one person has their finger on the pulse of all these things.

01:09:49.000 It's like someone says to you, hey man, what do you think about what's going on at the Bundy Ranch? 0.98

01:09:53.000 You're like, I don't fucking know. 0.94

01:09:55.000 Like, what's going on at the Bundy Ranch? 0.99

01:09:56.000 I can't know. 1.00

01:09:57.000 It doesn't, oh, you fucking shill. 0.99

01:09:59.000 You know, like, you can't know everything. 0.98

01:10:02.000 Every day, there's a hundred new stories that have huge implications to our society, to our world, to the way we progress.

01:10:12.000 Like, where are we going in the future?

01:10:13.000 Is it going to be affected by these events, by these decisions, by these technologies?

01:10:17.000 Every day, there's a hundred of them.

01:10:19.000 And every day, everyone has to try to pay attention to as many of them as you can, and there's a new hundred tomorrow.

01:10:25.000 Good luck.

01:10:26.000 And it's exponential.

01:10:28.000 So a year from now, 10 years from now, it's going to be unrecognizable.

01:10:32.000 There's going to be so much information coming at you on a daily basis, and the changes will be so rapid.

01:10:38.000 It's almost unpredictable.

01:10:40.000 When we try to look at the idea of exponential growth, like I talked to Ray Kurzweil about that, and he was talking to me about the criticisms that he's been given about this idea of the singularity, about technological singularity, that there's going to be some sort of technology that's so groundbreaking that it changes humanity and reality as we know it.

01:11:01.000 And it's probably right around the corner.

01:11:03.000 I agree with that, actually. 1.00

01:11:04.000 I agree with it, too, and I'm too stupid to understand all of it. 0.98

01:11:08.000 But when he describes it, when he describes exponential growth, then you really wrap your head around it. 0.98

01:11:13.000 Like that it doesn't matter that it took 100 years to make this machine after that machine was made.

01:11:21.000 What matters is once a technology is born, then technologies branch off of that at an Incredibly rapid rate.

01:11:31.000 And as new technologies come in, it makes it easier for new innovation to be established as well.

01:11:38.000 And then it just swarms and it gets this incredible frenzy where it's unpredictable as far as how fast it's going to go.

01:11:47.000 And he thinks it's like 2049.

01:11:49.000 That's what his opinion is.

01:11:50.000 His opinion is studying all of these different graphs and looking at the exponential growth of technologies, trying to figure out like when it's all going to come to a head.

01:12:00.000 But even he's just guessing.

01:12:01.000 No one really knows. 0.99

01:12:02.000 There might be some new thing that comes out next month out of Finland that no one saw coming that changes a whole fucking ball of wax. 0.98

01:12:08.000 And it's... 0.97

01:12:26.000 So it's not even necessarily interested in looking good or making money.

01:12:29.000 It doesn't have like mortality motivation because if it backs up its intelligence, it could probably live forever, right?

01:12:36.000 So what motivates it to do anything?

01:12:38.000 Yeah, there's no motivation.

01:12:40.000 That's an interesting thing.

01:12:40.000 People are worried that robots will take over and artificial intelligence will dominate the Earth.

01:12:45.000 It might just be a command line.

01:12:46.000 And you type anything into it and it tells you the answer or it helps you out, but it has just no interest in either harming humanity or helping us.

01:12:54.000 Unless it's programmed that way.

01:12:57.000 The problem, the real issue with artificial intelligence is if someone is so compelled to create an artificial human being and gives us all of the components that a human being has, all the flaws as well.

01:13:09.000 Emotions, all the jealousy, all the nonsense.

01:13:13.000 That'd be very bad. 0.98

01:13:14.000 Well, if they don't have that, then are they not a psychopath?

01:13:17.000 That's the problem.

01:13:18.000 I mean, are you creating a complete psycho with no remorse and no compassion if you create an artificial person that's ruthlessly intelligent but is not concerned whatsoever about pain and suffering?

01:13:29.000 And what if it's so smart that it recognizes, hey, look, people don't live forever anyway.

01:13:34.000 Like, this is a moot point.

01:13:36.000 Like, they're going to die of old age, which is one of the worst ways to go.

01:13:40.000 The last few years of your life, your body's going to break down to the point you're ready to die because it sucks to be alive.

01:13:48.000 Like, what's better, that?

01:13:49.000 Or we just eat them and use them for fuel to make a much better race of robot, artificial intelligent things that don't get jealous.

01:13:57.000 The Matrix, basically.

01:13:59.000 If that, I mean, you know, I think that we're probably at least on the verge of a new member of our world that we're going to have to consider.

01:14:12.000 At the least, if not our overlords.

01:14:15.000 I think this idea of artificial intelligence is completely unavoidable.

01:14:20.000 It's just as unavoidable as the moment that the guy figured out a wagon wheel and the other guy figured out an engine and they started going, huh, huh, huh?

01:14:29.000 If we put that in there and get something to make those things, how would you get the wheels to spin?

01:14:34.000 We need like a thing that connects to the end.

01:14:37.000 Was the engine making fire? 1.00

01:14:39.000 Yeah, it burns shit. 0.99

01:14:40.000 We got to get it burned. 1.00

01:14:41.000 Okay, it burns gas.

01:14:42.000 So we've got to get a tank that holds the gas.

01:14:44.000 It's inevitable.

01:14:45.000 It was just a matter of time before someone pieced all those things together.

01:14:48.000 When you're dealing with artificial intelligence, like, you know, I mean, even the simplistic form of it, like Siri.

01:14:54.000 Siri is a form of artificial intelligence.

01:14:56.000 It's a database.

01:14:57.000 It asks, you ask it questions.

01:14:59.000 It provides you with answers.

01:15:00.000 That's a form of something doing some calculations.

01:15:05.000 When that starts becoming more and more complex, and then they decide, hey, we want to recreate a human being.

01:15:12.000 Let's recreate memories.

01:15:13.000 We're going to program memories. 0.99

01:15:15.000 We're going to take someone's, you know, we're going to take, what we did is we decided to take memories, generic memories, from happy people ages one through 60 and just create a 60-year-old professor, an artificial guy who's lived a long life of wisdom, and we're going to have him interact with people just to blow their fucking minds.

01:15:36.000 And meanwhile, you know, someone tells him, you know, that they made you just a week ago.

01:15:39.000 And he starts crying.

01:15:40.000 What about my children?

01:15:41.000 They don't exist.

01:15:42.000 What?

01:15:44.000 My daughter was at her wedding.

01:15:45.000 It didn't happen.

01:15:46.000 It never happened.

01:15:46.000 You're a week old.

01:15:49.000 We watched some fake 60-year-old cry and then cut his throat. 0.99

01:15:52.000 He reaches and grabs one of those straight razors from dollarshave.com and fucking it's pointless because he realizes it and sparks come flying out and then he really freaks out because he knows there's no blood. 0.65

01:16:03.000 Did somebody post that article to the technology subreddit, but it's instantly removed? 0.93

01:16:07.000 And someone comes in and kicks his head off and yells out, World Star, World Star.

01:16:12.000 And technology shows that as well and it becomes the number one video the internet ever sees ever. 1.00

01:16:18.000 And then he goes into porn, robot porn with a sliced neck because his dick never goes soft. 1.00

01:16:24.000 He's a fucking robot. 1.00

01:16:25.000 Once he learns he's a robot, he just presses the dick hard button and it just goes. 1.00

01:16:31.000 I think that there's a real concern at a certain point in time that we're going to create an artificial thing that thinks we're retarded. 0.99

01:16:39.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:16:40.000 If it's really doing calculations and realizing how ridiculous we are.

01:16:44.000 And it also might eliminate us because it goes, okay, if humans are allowed to continue surviving, there's a non-zero chance that they will eventually wipe us out.

01:16:54.000 They'll either destroy the Earth or they will for some reason decide to turn us off at some point.

01:16:59.000 And so because there's that non-zero chance that they will eliminate us, we have to eliminate them first.

01:17:04.000 And then you get like a Battlestar Galactica kind of thing where they actually want to kill humans just because they essentially live forever.

01:17:12.000 You know, there's no time constraint.

01:17:13.000 So they don't want a situation where in 500 years we're so advanced that we're advanced and we decide that artificial intelligence is evil for some reason.

01:17:22.000 Maybe we have some new religious leader and we turn it off.

01:17:26.000 Well, the followers of Ted Kaczynski.

01:17:28.000 That's what it's going to be.

01:17:29.000 It's going to be the Unibomber followers who said he's ahead of his time. 0.81

01:17:32.000 I mean, that's what Kaczynski thought.

01:17:34.000 He thought that technology was our enemy.

01:17:36.000 He was the enemy of the human race and he was trying to actively stop technology by attacking and killing the people that were responsible for innovation.

01:17:45.000 I mean, it's a really crazy thought that maybe in his wacky LSD mind that he had a point, that he really saw it all coming.

01:17:56.000 And he saw, he extrapolated the future and he said, oh my God, we keep Going along at this same rate, there's not going to be any apple pie.

01:18:03.000 There's not going to be any Norman Rockwell paintings. 0.97

01:18:05.000 I think he was just a crazy person, and I think a lot of crazy people can see like a very small part of the picture, and that's why they're crazy. 0.50

01:18:12.000 They can see the little bit. 1.00

01:18:13.000 They can't see the whole fucking thing. 0.99

01:18:15.000 And if they could see that, they would be much less worried. 0.99

01:18:17.000 You know, he was a part of the Harvard LSD studies, right?

01:18:20.000 I did not know that.

01:18:21.000 Yeah, you should look into it.

01:18:22.000 It's a fascinating.

01:18:23.000 There's a documentary called The Net.

01:18:25.000 It's a foreign documentary in subtitles. 0.55

01:18:28.000 But it's all documenting Ted Kaczynski's part in the Harvard LSD studies where they just dosed the shit out of kids and found out what it did for them. 0.61

01:18:38.000 He went to Berkeley after that, taught at Berkeley, and used all of his money to fucking build this cabin in the woods and then plot his war against civilization and innovation. 0.92

01:18:50.000 Don't put that up. 0.95

01:18:51.000 Don't put that up.

01:18:52.000 You can't put any more videos up unless I ask you to because these videos are getting us pulled off YouTube.

01:18:57.000 Movie preview won't do it.

01:18:59.000 I don't know about that, man.

01:19:01.000 It's really annoying lately.

01:19:02.000 We're getting like half of the videos we put up.

01:19:05.000 We get something on YouTube that says we shouldn't have it up.

01:19:08.000 It's a dispute.

01:19:10.000 You have to do a fair use thing.

01:19:13.000 We were talking about before, you were talking about trolls that do that to videos.

01:19:17.000 Yeah, content trolls.

01:19:19.000 They go through YouTube videos and they'll tag stuff as being their copyright, their property.

01:19:24.000 Even if it's just a video that I made in my apartment where the background is my couch, all of the words are my own words coming out of my own mouth recorded by me.

01:19:32.000 And this is what I send to YouTube every time I get one of these complaints from these content troll companies.

01:19:37.000 I go, how is it physically possible that they own any of this content?

01:19:41.000 Right.

01:19:41.000 And what do they respond to you as?

01:19:43.000 They always end up reversing it, but it takes me time to do that.

01:19:46.000 And what they're hoping is that a certain percentage of people won't take the time, and then they make a small amount of money off your videos.

01:19:51.000 That's fascinating. 0.99

01:19:52.000 That's really fascinating that someone's decided to be that much of a cunt. 0.99

01:19:56.000 That they're going to pretend that you, in your office or wherever you're doing this thing, that you somehow or another are stealing their work. 0.99

01:20:07.000 That's amazing.

01:20:09.000 I'm using English words, and I think they probably use English words, so that must be copyright infringement.

01:20:15.000 That's amazing.

01:20:16.000 It's amazing that they think that they can do that, or that they think that somehow or another that's justified.

01:20:20.000 Do you think they're randomly selecting people or they're purposely finding people that have a high number of videos, high number of views?

01:20:28.000 If I were to say anything, it would just be complete speculation.

01:20:30.000 I don't know what they're going for.

01:20:32.000 Maybe it's like an algorithm.

01:20:34.000 Maybe it's a bot that searches out things.

01:20:36.000 It's a money-making bot.

01:20:37.000 Yeah, I'm always fascinated by when you go to a website and you're entering in information, they give you that weird scrambled letter thing that you have to decipher.

01:20:44.000 Oh, the CAPTCHA scrambled.

01:20:45.000 Yeah, this is the best way you have to do this.

01:20:48.000 And by the way, sometimes it's like what is that?

01:20:51.000 I like to fail the test a whole bunch. 0.99

01:20:53.000 When they cram the letters together, I have to guess I'm not human because I didn't pass your fucking test. 0.98

01:20:57.000 Yeah, sometimes it's a real calculation. 0.98

01:21:01.000 I think it's a Q. What the?

01:21:03.000 Is that a G or a fucking Q? 0.99

01:21:05.000 What is that weird ass thing that doesn't look like a font? 0.99

01:21:10.000 I like when they just ask questions, like, what was the first president of the United States or something like that? 0.97

01:21:16.000 That's a lot smarter.

01:21:18.000 Yeah, but if you're a Google-type database, or you can have the algorithm go to Google and answer the question, like if you say something into Google, it has it in a tenth of a second.

01:21:29.000 So if you have a direct connection.

01:21:31.000 And so it could just get the answer and answer for you.

01:21:34.000 It'd look at the text and then form a response.

01:21:38.000 You could ask a Google search engine a question.

01:21:41.000 It'll take you to Wiki Answers and then boom.

01:21:44.000 So all we'd have to do is just print that.

01:21:46.000 Yeah, but then it wouldn't be a one-word answer.

01:21:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:21:52.000 Yeah, sure it would be.

01:21:53.000 Who's the first president of the United States?

01:21:54.000 George Washington.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, but then if they were to search Google, it'd probably be like George Washington is a, like it wouldn't know to just stop, I guess, maybe.

01:22:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:05.000 Well, do you remember that thing, Wolfram Alpha, that they were doing a long time ago?

01:22:09.000 Because you don't hear about that anymore.

01:22:12.000 Yeah, well, it was a search engine, like an academic search engine, and I think the idea was to have a total, complete human database.

01:22:19.000 Siri.

01:22:20.000 That's what it is.

01:22:20.000 It becomes Siri.

01:22:21.000 Yeah, they use the technology for Siri, which works 8 out of 10 times only, right?

01:22:28.000 Doesn't it?

01:22:29.000 I don't use it that often, but I find it to be pretty accurate.

01:22:31.000 But I mean, even good now is 8 out of 10, right?

01:22:34.000 2 out of 10.

01:22:35.000 It depends what you're doing.

01:22:36.000 Okay, let's find out.

01:22:37.000 Let's Google this.

01:22:38.000 How often does Siri work?

01:22:39.000 Let's just say that. 0.56

01:22:41.000 We don't want to say Siri the porn star, because there's a porn star named Siri.

01:22:44.000 Do you remember when there were cheesy infomercials on about that software product where you put on the microphone and instead of typing, it would read your words and you'd be able to type a document that way?

01:22:55.000 Say that again?

01:22:56.000 There used to be infomercials for this software where you'd put on the microphone and instead of typing...

01:23:01.000 Yeah, Dragon, like speech recognition.

01:23:03.000 And back then, it was so clunky that what we have now is ridiculously better than anything that I think they expected.

01:23:09.000 Yeah, well, I have a friend who used to write all of his books with that.

01:23:14.000 He used to, yeah, he used to put headphones on and walk around his apartment years ago.

01:23:17.000 And he actually used Windows because the Windows version of Dragon was way better than the Mac version.

01:23:22.000 That was the very reason why he did it.

01:23:23.000 He did all of his writing through rants.

01:23:25.000 And then he would go back over it and then edit it and try to figure it out.

01:23:29.000 But he was like, to capture my words as accurately with my fingers.

01:23:34.000 I can't type that fast.

01:23:35.000 There's no way.

01:23:36.000 It felt like there was something missing in the flow of his ideas.

01:23:40.000 I've always had the opposite opinion.

01:23:42.000 I think that I write better because when I actually physically use the keyboard, it's because I'm giving a lot of thought and consideration to each one of these words.

01:23:52.000 Because it takes me a lot longer to type out the word consideration than it does to have that concept in my mind.

01:24:00.000 That concept in my mind goes in and out.

01:24:02.000 And there's both, like the rants that you would come up with on a podcast, you probably would never write that way because you're in sort of this frantic flowing thing where one idea feeds into the next and there's steam behind them.

01:24:17.000 But when you're writing and you're really considering every single sentence and going back over it and going back over the, is that the best way to phrase this?

01:24:25.000 Like a Hemingway.

01:24:26.000 Is this as concise as possible?

01:24:28.000 Could I go shorter?

01:24:29.000 Yeah, There's a way to put more flair to it.

01:24:32.000 There's a way to give it a better feeling.

01:24:35.000 Like, what's the impact that I'm going to get from reading this?

01:24:38.000 There's a way to enhance that in some way.

01:24:41.000 That extra consideration, I think, is good.

01:24:44.000 It's not that you can't do that in the editing process, though.

01:24:46.000 But for me, silence is how I write best.

01:24:50.000 I don't want to even hear my own voice. 1.00

01:24:51.000 I don't want to hear shit. 0.99

01:24:52.000 Most of the time, don't listen to music unless there's a rare moment. 0.99

01:24:57.000 But the idea that you could just talk a whole email and absolutely have it be perfect, that's really compelling.

01:25:06.000 Like it was like day-to-day tasks that weren't like creative.

01:25:09.000 Yeah, if it's been so good, you don't have to check it before you send it to your boss.

01:25:12.000 Like, hey, Dave, is 12.30 on Wednesday okay for a podcast?

01:25:16.000 Question mark, send.

01:25:17.000 Boom, done.

01:25:18.000 Takes five seconds.

01:25:20.000 I do that all the time with text messaging, by the way.

01:25:23.000 One of the things about Androids is their Google Voice software that they use for analyzing your text. 0.95

01:25:34.000 Like if I send you a text, it's fucking incredible. 0.94

01:25:36.000 It's really, really accurate. 0.98

01:25:38.000 Cool.

01:25:38.000 It's really accurate.

01:25:40.000 It's really fast.

01:25:41.000 It picks it up as you're talking, and you can see the letters forming.

01:25:44.000 And that's just on a cell phone. 0.57

01:25:46.000 They're also not shitheads about accepting stuff into their app store.

01:25:49.000 It's a much more open environment.

01:25:52.000 Yeah, despite what everybody's been telling me, no, there are no Bitcoin applications available for the iPhone.

01:25:57.000 You may have a Bitcoin application for the iPhone, but you cannot get new ones.

01:26:02.000 That's what people are saying.

01:26:03.000 I have a Bitcoin app.

01:26:04.000 You don't know what you're talking about.

01:26:05.000 You do because you already downloaded it.

01:26:07.000 But if you try to download one right now, you're not going to be able to get it.

01:26:10.000 There are apps that will show you the price and stuff, but there aren't apps that will allow you to send or receive Bitcoins.

01:26:15.000 That's fascinating.

01:26:17.000 That's a weird thing.

01:26:18.000 Well, is there any rational explanation for why Apple has chosen to do that?

01:26:23.000 I think, I mean, there are two reasons.

01:26:26.000 One is that they make a tremendous amount of money from saving your credit card info, and then every time you decide you want to buy a song or you want to buy an app, it goes through their system.

01:26:35.000 And I think they're worried that if they open up the floodgates to Bitcoin, they lose that 30% that they're making.

01:26:40.000 That's a very good point.

01:26:42.000 I didn't even think of that because Apple is, that's a huge part of their business is their iTunes store.

01:26:46.000 Yeah, they give app developers, I believe, 70%, and they take 30%.

01:26:49.000 And with Bitcoin, they'd be getting like nothing.

01:26:51.000 That is a very good point and a very likely reason.

01:26:55.000 That's a very likely motivation. 0.99

01:26:57.000 The other reason is just they're worried about legal shit. 0.96

01:27:00.000 But that's not so much a concern because if a company like Apple wants to do something, they do it. 0.98

01:27:04.000 They always have the ability to remain compliant, and that's what they would do.

01:27:10.000 That's a really good point, man.

01:27:11.000 I didn't even think of that, but I bet you're dead right.

01:27:13.000 With their iTunes store for movies, the iTunes store for music, that's probably a considerable chunk of revenue that could very well be swept away with Bitcoin.

01:27:22.000 If someone came up with an application that allowed artists to sell their music directly with Bitcoin, no iTunes, and then someone manages another application that ports it into iTunes.

01:27:37.000 We're going to see some really weird stuff in the next couple of years.

01:27:39.000 We're going to see banks where it's just a bunch of Bitcoin users funding the bank, and then the bank decides who to loan money to.

01:27:46.000 So then you'll have a situation where instead of going to Chase or Wells Fargo, you'll just go to the guy down the street who owns his own community bank and it'll be run by Bitcoin so you know that the money he claims he has is actually there because you can verify it.

01:28:00.000 The picture in five years is going to look so weird compared to today.

01:28:04.000 The idea of driving up to an ATM machine in five years is going to be the same as walking in a blockbuster and picking up a VHS tape.

01:28:10.000 It's just not going to be something people need to do.

01:28:12.000 So you think that all money will be digital currency in a certain amount of time?

01:28:17.000 I think, and I realize it's kind of a bold prediction, but you get to a point where there's no turning back.

01:28:17.000 Yeah.

01:28:22.000 And it's the same with how many people own analog TVs still?

01:28:26.000 For a while, it was kind of like 20% owned flat screen HD TVs.

01:28:30.000 80% still had the old tubes.

01:28:33.000 And then slowly over time, more and more of your friends got the flat screens until eventually even your friends who don't have any money and are not up on tech trends, you walk into their house and it's a brand new Samsung.

01:28:33.000 Yeah.

01:28:44.000 What happened there?

01:28:45.000 Analog always loses out to digital.

01:28:47.000 That seems to be the trend in anything. 1.00

01:28:49.000 Well, innovation always stomps out the old stupid shit. 0.99

01:28:53.000 Yeah, I mean, I can't guarantee that Bitcoin will be the first one. 0.99

01:28:55.000 In fact, it's possible that it won't be the one that takes off finally because if you look at operating systems, it was Xerox Labs created one of the first visual operating systems.

01:29:07.000 And Steve Jobs was taking a tour of the Xerox park because they had told him, like, you got to check this out.

01:29:11.000 It's really cool.

01:29:12.000 It's up your alley.

01:29:13.000 He saw that, took one look at it, and was like, this is what I should be doing at Apple. 0.98

01:29:18.000 Took that idea, made the visual Apple Macintosh, whatever the fuck it was.

01:29:22.000 It's the graphic user interface is what it is. 0.73

01:29:24.000 That's what they invented.

01:29:25.000 They invented the point and click.

01:29:27.000 Right, the trash bin and dragging files instead of a command line.

01:29:31.000 But even Apple wasn't.

01:29:32.000 So that was the second generation.

01:29:34.000 Even that wasn't the one that took off because Apple for a long time was only used by a subset of designers and writers and stuff.

01:29:40.000 It was actually Windows.

01:29:41.000 It was the third one where Bill Gates saw what Steve Jobs had done.

01:29:46.000 And he goes, we got to make Windows.

01:29:48.000 We'll make it a little bit cheaper, make it a little bit simpler for people to use.

01:29:51.000 Doesn't have to be as beautiful, but we're going for the mass market.

01:29:53.000 And that's the one that took off.

01:29:55.000 And I think it could be the same situation with this where Bitcoin blazed the trail and maybe it'll always have a place in the same way that Apple has always had a place and now it's a very big place.

01:30:05.000 So we'll have like multiple alternative currencies to choose from.

01:30:09.000 Yeah, it's going to be really weird.

01:30:10.000 You're going to have like three or four currencies and you're going to use them for different things.

01:30:13.000 Like if you're tipping, if you're tipping a podcast, you might use Bitcoin, but if you're at a strip club, you might use some other coin for some other reason.

01:30:23.000 You know what someone's got to do, though?

01:30:24.000 Someone's got to make it treason if you interfere with this.

01:30:28.000 Like if you try to sabotage these digital currencies and stop innovation because you're worried that whatever company you're doing or whatever thing you're doing is going to somehow or another be impacted by it, it should be treasonous.

01:30:41.000 The idea that you could come in, like they're going to have government agents that are coming in and sabotaging Bitcoin, buying and selling and stealing and collecting into it.

01:30:49.000 The IRS has already ruled that it's property.

01:30:51.000 So if you have any government agency that tries to damage the network, then you're damaging your own citizens' property and that is illegal.

01:31:00.000 That's one of the most basic tenets of American capitalism is we protect property rights here.

01:31:05.000 It might not happen in countries in South America that you get a new dictator, everybody's property gets taken over.

01:31:10.000 That's not what America does. 0.99

01:31:12.000 We actually respect property rights.

01:31:13.000 So it's very strange to me that we would have people even think about challenging that.

01:31:19.000 Well, if that's the case, then what's going on with this Mt.

01:31:21.000 Gox thing?

01:31:22.000 That means there's a giant grand theft took place where $300 million in property was stolen. 0.97

01:31:27.000 That was a fat dumbass who programmed his site in the wrong language and got a lot of market share because he was one of the first people there. 0.96

01:31:34.000 And if you look at just traditional money, U.S. dollars and Euros, it attracts a lot of criminals. 0.98

01:31:41.000 Surprise when you're dealing with billions of dollars, the kinds of people who are attracted to that, some of them are honest, some of them are not.

01:31:48.000 And how many failures have we had within the dollar?

01:31:50.000 We had, what was it, Lehman Brothers went under.

01:31:53.000 Bear Stearns had to be bought out by Chase for like pennies on the dollar or like two bucks a share or something.

01:31:59.000 And we had Bernie Madoff.

01:32:00.000 Like scams related to money are nothing new.

01:32:03.000 And that's not going to go away with Bitcoin.

01:32:04.000 It's just that now we're going to have a little bit more accountability. 0.99

01:32:07.000 And I personally just like to see these old fucks in Davos. 0.96

01:32:13.000 I like to see them sweat a little bit for the first time because they have given my generation more than a trillion dollars of student loan debt that we can't pay off. 0.98

01:32:21.000 And when I say we, I'm just talking about like everybody.

01:32:23.000 I don't have any student loan debt, but they've done that.

01:32:26.000 We're all pretty much indentured servants to these zombie banks, which if you look into them as people like Matt Taebi have done, they're semi-insolvent.

01:32:34.000 They're corrupt to the core.

01:32:36.000 They are politically entrenched. 0.99

01:32:37.000 And they're not efficient.

01:32:38.000 That's what bothers me. 0.99

01:32:39.000 Like all the other shit is all well and good. 0.99

01:32:40.000 It's just not efficient. 0.99

01:32:42.000 Like I used to be in credit cards.

01:32:43.000 I had a credit card website where it would rank deals for people.

01:32:47.000 And I honestly believed at the time that plastic is the best way to buy things.

01:32:50.000 More efficient than cash.

01:32:51.000 You have a record of it so you know come tax time, what you spent on business stuff.

01:32:55.000 When this came around, I instantly realized, oh, okay, credit cards days are numbered.

01:33:00.000 It might not be, you know, it might take a year.

01:33:02.000 It might take five years, but they're done.

01:33:05.000 Yeah, I think digital currency, without a doubt, threatens the paradigm.

01:33:10.000 It threatens the situation that they have, the stranglehold they have.

01:33:14.000 And once you see companies like Tiger Direct starting to sell computers and different Vegas casinos are starting to accept it.

01:33:21.000 Overstock's a huge company and they accept it.

01:33:23.000 Yeah, it's going to get weird.

01:33:24.000 It's going to get real weird.

01:33:26.000 I'm really curious to see what happens and really curious to see what the blowback is going to be.

01:33:31.000 What sort of federal attack on Bitcoin?

01:33:36.000 And you have a really good point that there's always been corruption as far as regular money goes, as far as accepted conventional money goes.

01:33:43.000 There's always been massive amounts of corruption.

01:33:45.000 There's always been massive amounts of theft.

01:33:46.000 There's always been problems.

01:33:47.000 But no one has said, we can't have money anymore.

01:33:50.000 Everybody's corrupt. 0.99

01:33:51.000 Bernie Madoff fucked it up. 1.00

01:33:52.000 No more money. 0.97

01:33:53.000 Yeah, how many people write rubber checks?

01:33:54.000 That's something that never happens with Bitcoin.

01:33:56.000 I can't send you a rubber Bitcoin.

01:33:59.000 I can't send you a fake Bitcoin.

01:34:01.000 That's a real good point.

01:34:02.000 And so if you ignore all the political implications and that's all you focus on, do you want to have a technology where there's a really good chance of chargeback fraud, which is the case with credit cards, or a rubber check with checks?

01:34:14.000 Do you want that?

01:34:15.000 Or do you want the thing where there's zero chance of that?

01:34:17.000 Consumers eventually, I don't know when it's going to happen.

01:34:20.000 It might not even be this year.

01:34:21.000 Consumers over time, once they tire of the propaganda they're seeing on TV, will go, well, yeah, I want the one where it's 100% certain. 0.96

01:34:28.000 I don't want the one where I don't know what the fuck's happening for two or three days. 0.97

01:34:31.000 Gox guy who fucked up and coded his site in a shitty way, when all that money is gone, all that $300 million in Bitcoin is gone. 0.97

01:34:31.000 So this Mt. 0.97

01:34:40.000 Are people investigating that like it's a crime?

01:34:44.000 I'm sure they are. 0.99

01:34:45.000 I think the U.S. wants to drag his ass over here. 1.00

01:34:47.000 Is he an American? 1.00

01:34:49.000 I don't know.

01:34:50.000 I know his company was based in Japan.

01:34:50.000 I don't know what he is.

01:34:53.000 He looks like he's American.

01:34:54.000 He doesn't look Asian. 0.96

01:34:56.000 The Mt.

01:34:57.000 Gox thing, though, is if that is property, that's a huge piece of theft.

01:35:03.000 I mean, that should be something that prosecutors go after.

01:35:05.000 Is it one of those gray areas where everybody's looking around going, was a crime just taking place here?

01:35:10.000 Oh, I think they're going to go after him.

01:35:11.000 I think that he's going to be one of the examples that the government makes.

01:35:16.000 It's like, you can't do this.

01:35:18.000 You can't do it. 1.00

01:35:18.000 This is fucked up. 1.00

01:35:19.000 Because there's actually a lot of money that's supposed to go into Bitcoin over the summer, institutional money, when Second Market comes online, which is supposed to be like the first really credible exchange that big banks would be comfortable using. 1.00

01:35:35.000 Boy, he has a big, fat, stupid head. 1.00

01:35:37.000 Looks like he ate some Bitcoins. 1.00

01:35:39.000 Yeah, ate all the Bitcoins.

01:35:40.000 He ate $300 million in Bitcoin.

01:35:42.000 Mt.

01:35:43.000 Gox is set to liquidate as court denies rehabilitation.

01:35:48.000 So they're going to liquidate now.

01:35:49.000 What does that mean?

01:35:50.000 I don't know.

01:35:50.000 Once the world's biggest, this is seven hours ago this came out.

01:35:54.000 Once the world's biggest Bitcoin exchange, Mt.

01:35:56.000 Gox, is likely to be liquidated after a Tokyo court dismissed the company's bid to resuscitate its business.

01:36:03.000 The court appointed administrator, court appointed administrator said on Wednesday.

01:36:08.000 Mark Carpolis is also likely to be investigated for liability in the collapse of the Tokyo-based firm.

01:36:17.000 The provisional administrator lawyer Nobu Akikobayashi said in a settlement, a statement published on the Mt.

01:36:27.000 Gox website. 1.00

01:36:28.000 Look at that big, fat, stupid head. 1.00

01:36:30.000 He looks so dumb, too. 1.00

01:36:31.000 He doesn't just look like an overweight guy. 1.00

01:36:33.000 He looks like a dunce. 0.99

01:36:34.000 Nice hair. 0.99

01:36:36.000 It's not bad.

01:36:37.000 Absolutely, Greasy.

01:36:38.000 Jumped from, what, Magic the Gathering to managing one of the most high-traffic exchanges in the world?

01:36:44.000 Yeah, what is that guy going to do for a job after this? 0.99

01:36:46.000 I mean, if he has any money at all, people are going to find it and go, give me that bitch. 1.00

01:36:50.000 Fuck my Bitcoins. 1.00

01:36:51.000 Smack him in the head. 1.00

01:36:52.000 Oh, I'm sure he has a lot of people who are not happy with him. 0.99

01:36:54.000 Yeah, he better stay over there, man.

01:36:56.000 By the way, all my kind of political rabble-rousing about how Bitcoin will change the landscape, I just want to put in a kind of disclaimer that in five years, you might still see a chase in Bank of America because there's a chance that if they see it taking off fast enough, they'll adopt it.

01:37:13.000 Because for them, it's just a new payment technology.

01:37:15.000 Like they use Visa and MasterCard. 0.98

01:37:18.000 They could just as easily issue a Bitcoin debit card and base it off of that network and find a way to make money off of it by providing people the security of you're not dealing with some fat ass in Japan. 0.97

01:37:28.000 You're dealing with Bank of America. 0.97

01:37:29.000 You're dealing with Chase.

01:37:30.000 That's possible.

01:37:31.000 But one thing that's very clear is that it's going to be completely different in a couple of years.

01:37:37.000 Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

01:37:40.000 Fascinating stuff, man.

01:37:41.000 This is such an interesting time to be alive because there's so much going on and there's so much change and there's so many people that are wondering like, which way is it going to go and people that are looking at it in a negative way and people that are looking at it promising.

01:37:56.000 Well, what's really cool to think about, if you look at where a lot of the money came from in Silicon Valley for these really innovative companies we're seeing today, it started with PayPal where Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, I think a couple of other guys, Max something, made billions of dollars off of their PayPal venture because PayPal was at the time a challenge to the status quo.

01:38:19.000 It was you don't need an expensive merchant, whatever that thing was that merchants had to have, to process credit cards, a merchant account.

01:38:27.000 You don't need that.

01:38:28.000 All you need is an email address and we verify some stuff, link it to your bank account.

01:38:32.000 And now you have a form of digital money.

01:38:35.000 And that was 15 years ago.

01:38:37.000 So we're overdue for kind of a new challenge to the status quo.

01:38:41.000 And my point is that when PayPal happened, it made a lot of people rich.

01:38:45.000 And that money ended up getting invested in things that have nothing to do with currency.

01:38:48.000 It was invested in Tesla and SpaceX and all these next generation companies.

01:38:54.000 And we'll probably see the same thing now.

01:38:56.000 We'll see people get rich off of this.

01:38:57.000 And then that money, since they're young and not compromised old people, will go into really bizarre things where the dividend is just going to be massive.

01:39:06.000 What I was getting at is that there's a lot of folks that look at the possibilities in the future and look at it all, and they see only negative.

01:39:14.000 And that's very unfortunate.

01:39:15.000 And that was our friend Michael Rupert, who he somehow or another, a couple days ago, committed suicide by a gunshot, allegedly.

01:39:28.000 I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that think he was murdered.

01:39:31.000 There always is going to be on those things, but I know he wasn't a happy guy.

01:39:35.000 And if you look at the way he looked at the world, I mean, everything he saw, if you saw that movie collapse, it's him sitting there chain smoking, talking about the end.

01:39:44.000 And it's incredibly compelling because he was a very articulate guy.

01:39:48.000 He was very believable.

01:39:50.000 He was charismatic.

01:39:51.000 He was passionate, and he knew a lot of things.

01:39:55.000 His version was the sky is falling.

01:39:58.000 And he was wrong about a lot of things.

01:40:00.000 He was wrong about a lot of predictions.

01:40:01.000 He was wrong about a lot of his thoughts on peak oil and a lot of other things that he thought were going to come to a conclusion in our, you know, just the last decade and just fuck everything up.

01:40:11.000 And it didn't happen.

01:40:13.000 I found out about him from a book that he had put out, Crossing the Rubicon.

01:40:18.000 It's a long time ago.

01:40:19.000 And it was all about the same sort of thing.

01:40:22.000 Just it was always negative.

01:40:24.000 It was always doom and it was always gloom.

01:40:27.000 And he wasn't well the last few years of his life and apparently decided to end it on his own terms.

01:40:35.000 So it's unfortunate.

01:40:37.000 I really liked that guy.

01:40:38.000 He was a sweetie.

01:40:39.000 He was a really cool guy to be around.

01:40:41.000 He was fun.

01:40:41.000 He was warm.

01:40:42.000 He was friendly.

01:40:44.000 Liked to hug people.

01:40:45.000 It was a real nice guy to be around.

01:40:47.000 I mean, I enjoyed doing podcasts with him, too.

01:40:50.000 I enjoyed talking to him.

01:40:52.000 I didn't see the doom and gloom.

01:40:54.000 I didn't see that side the way he did.

01:40:56.000 I didn't agree with him on things, but he was a very pleasant guy to be around.

01:41:00.000 And I'm going to miss him. 0.98

01:41:02.000 Sucks. 0.90

01:41:03.000 Yeah, I'm sorry to hear about that. 0.99

01:41:05.000 You know, it sucks when people...

01:41:15.000 You should always go on because the circumstances always change.

01:41:18.000 Maybe, but Hunter S. Thompson was done.

01:41:20.000 Well, that's the thing about that guy.

01:41:22.000 A lot of his issue, I think, was physical pain, and that's different.

01:41:25.000 That's one of the not that I have any say over what people do or really even care, but that's one of, for me, morally, it's where I think that suicide is okay.

01:41:35.000 Like, if you're in so much pain and you've pursued every avenue and modern medicine can't help you reduce that pain, and it's physical pain rather than just mental pain, then I don't really have a problem with it.

01:41:46.000 I think even in Switzerland now, there's some kind of assisted suicide program.

01:41:49.000 And I think we got to be humane.

01:41:51.000 Like, if we put down an animal because it's in a lot of pain, why can't we let an old guy do the same thing? 1.00

01:41:56.000 Yeah, there's no doubt about it.

01:41:57.000 There's definitely a time where you should be able to end it on your own terms.

01:42:02.000 Why should someone have to like choke on their own blood until their lungs fill up and they drown?

01:42:08.000 Let people die with dignity.

01:42:10.000 At a certain point, if the cancer treatment failed or whatever it is, give that person a choice.

01:42:15.000 I agree.

01:42:15.000 And it's another thing where why should someone be able to tell you what to do?

01:42:19.000 I mean, the idea that it's illegal is hilarious anyway.

01:42:21.000 You're going to lock him in jail after he kills himself? 1.00

01:42:23.000 I mean, it's stupid. 1.00

01:42:25.000 It's stupid to make suicide illegal. 1.00

01:42:27.000 We need way more mental health counseling everywhere. 1.00

01:42:32.000 We need a lot more thought into whatever it is that's wrong with people that causes them to be massively depressed.

01:42:40.000 A lot more thought into, is it just the way we live our lives? 0.77

01:42:44.000 Is it just the idea of sitting in some fucking office doing some mundane job that you hate, being stuck in this traffic where you feel completely out of control? 0.97

01:42:56.000 You don't have any control over your environment. 0.98

01:42:58.000 You're just stuck in this mass of people who are also doing the same thing, and you look around and no one seems to be happy.

01:43:03.000 Is it just that?

01:43:04.000 I mean, is that something we need to fix?

01:43:06.000 Is the idea of cities, are these ridiculous ideas that we should abandon condensed humans into a neatly packed area? 0.62

01:43:15.000 Does that make us crazy?

01:43:16.000 Are we even designed for it?

01:43:18.000 There's all these things that needs to be considered.

01:43:20.000 There's a lot of what we're doing is not well thought out.

01:43:24.000 There's a lot of what we're doing in society that's not the most intelligent, innovative, creative way to go about it.

01:43:33.000 Yeah, I agree, but I think that a lot of these problems have always been a part of the human experience, and we just have to learn how to deal with it and get each other through it.

01:43:43.000 Because I don't think the, I used to think like, oh, if I want to be happier, I have to just reduce the amount of stress in my life.

01:43:48.000 But the things I'm doing, I enjoy doing.

01:43:51.000 And as a byproduct, there's stress.

01:43:53.000 Like, you know, like I enjoy putting out controversial articles that make people think about things. 0.98

01:43:57.000 The result of that is somebody in the comment section calls me a cocksucker. 0.96

01:44:00.000 You know, like that's how it goes. 0.96

01:44:02.000 And I'm not willing to not write the article because of the stress.

01:44:05.000 So I think that instead of eliminating all the problems, we just have to be there for each other.

01:44:09.000 And a lot of people feel isolated.

01:44:11.000 And that's where you get these tragedies: people no longer have anybody else to do the feedback loop. 0.97

01:44:17.000 Because a lot of shit is like, if that guy, I don't know anything about that guy, so I don't want to speak as if I do. 0.96

01:44:22.000 But if he had somebody who could tell him, you know, yeah, that's terrible what you're saying about the government, but 2,000 years ago, they were crucifying people, and now they just drag activists through the court system. 0.99

01:44:33.000 And I'm not saying that's a good thing. 0.97

01:44:34.000 You don't want to put people in jail on bullshit charges. 0.98

01:44:36.000 It's a little bit better than crucifying people you don't like. 0.98

01:44:39.000 And if you look at the trend that humanity's on, it's an improving trend.

01:44:43.000 It's impossible not to see that.

01:44:44.000 Like the Malthusian model of human behavior and human existence has been proven false.

01:44:50.000 Like when you get higher population, you don't get people starving and destruction.

01:44:54.000 You get more innovation because there are more minds coming together and you get things that you didn't even think were possible.

01:45:01.000 Like right now, we don't have a serious food crisis in the first world anyways, because we've always been able to scale the technology.

01:45:09.000 We have more people and then we get better at farming.

01:45:11.000 And then we have more people and they create more innovation, which leads to better farming and so on.

01:45:16.000 No, I completely agree.

01:45:18.000 I hate that Malthusian. 0.99

01:45:19.000 It's a great word, by the way.

01:45:22.000 I hate that approach.

01:45:23.000 It's lazy. 0.99

01:45:25.000 I think if you really do objectively look at it, there's a lot of good shit about human beings today. 0.98

01:45:30.000 I mean, it's one of the best times ever to be alive. 0.96

01:45:33.000 It's certainly scary.

01:45:36.000 There's a lot of potential for disaster.

01:45:38.000 There's a lot of potential for catastrophe that's man-made, man-created, whether it's nuclear or war or whatever it is that could be terror.

01:45:48.000 I think it was on one of your podcasts recently where you said that the Fukushima response, they covered it up like a little child who had done something wrong.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, they swept it under the rug.

01:45:57.000 That's really like, that's what they do.

01:45:58.000 And it's the same thing with the BP oil spill.

01:46:01.000 When that happened, we just watched it like a kid watching the milk falling off of a table after you spill your cereal. 0.60

01:46:07.000 Like, how long do we fucking watch that thing on CNN and nobody really did anything?

01:46:11.000 And then finally they came in and like tried to clamp it and it took days and you're just watching it spill out. 0.84

01:46:16.000 They should have imploded that thing on day one, which they didn't want to do because they would have lost a lot of revenue.

01:46:21.000 Yeah, they probably should have figured.

01:46:22.000 Well, they wanted to launch a nuke at it, right?

01:46:24.000 And just blow the whole thing up.

01:46:26.000 Another bad idea.

01:46:27.000 Yeah, it was the idea.

01:46:28.000 Wasn't that one of the ideas of blowing it up?

01:46:30.000 That way it would seal the well somehow or another?

01:46:33.000 Well, there's also like, there are all these beautiful parts of the world that have been irradiated from our nuclear tests back when we didn't know what we were doing.

01:46:41.000 It's like the French military and the U.S. military were just picking beautiful deserted islands, which today would be worth, you know, today would be the places that Richard Branson hangs out in.

01:46:50.000 But instead, they're just these desolate test sites. 0.98

01:46:54.000 It's so gross and dumb that we did that in the first place. 0.85

01:46:56.000 Have you ever seen that animated GIF of all of the nuclear explosions that have gone off in the world? 0.98

01:47:03.000 Last time you showed me, I think, population.

01:47:03.000 No.

01:47:06.000 Population.

01:47:07.000 Oh, the numbers coming in.

01:47:08.000 That's pretty crazy.

01:47:09.000 That's a crazy thing to see.

01:47:10.000 And the little flags behind them, how many people being born?

01:47:13.000 Britain, Japan, China.

01:47:16.000 The bombs being blown up since the 1940s to the present.

01:47:21.000 All the nuclear tests. 0.99

01:47:22.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.97

01:47:25.000 I would have thought there was like four or five. 1.00

01:47:27.000 Like, how many times do we need to blow these fucking things up before we realize what they do? 0.99

01:47:32.000 No, there's a lot. 0.99

01:47:33.000 What are they learning?

01:47:34.000 Can't you just model this on a computer?

01:47:36.000 Even 50 years ago, they had computers and you can go, oh, okay, so this rocket's moving at this speed.

01:47:40.000 You know, we can plug the rest in and figure it out.

01:47:42.000 We don't actually have to launch the rocket to figure out if it's going to work or not.

01:47:45.000 I'll tell you what, David Seaman, I'm from Missouri.

01:47:47.000 Missouri is a show-me state.

01:47:50.000 You want to sell me one of your nuclear weapons?

01:47:52.000 Look up at the big screen.

01:47:54.000 Here we see the first one.

01:47:56.000 This is like 1945.

01:47:58.000 There it says up there.

01:47:59.000 That's it.

01:47:59.000 Boom.

01:48:00.000 Manhattan Project. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Here we go, bitches. 1.00

01:48:04.000 Boom. 1.00

01:48:05.000 1945 again.

01:48:07.000 Drop another one.

01:48:09.000 1945.

01:48:10.000 Nagasaki.

01:48:12.000 Boom.

01:48:13.000 One more.

01:48:14.000 Then you see all of the nuclear tests.

01:48:18.000 And that's when it gets really squirrely. 0.98

01:48:20.000 The two that were used in war combined with the one that was used to figure out if it fucking works. 0.97

01:48:26.000 Now look at these. 0.88

01:48:27.000 In the ocean, they just lit a couple up.

01:48:29.000 There's a few of them in the ocean in 47.

01:48:32.000 And then in the 19 and 48, like the 50s, look at that.

01:48:35.000 One, two, three.

01:48:36.000 Boom, boom, boom.

01:48:37.000 I mean, so far we're up to how many?

01:48:39.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:48:41.000 Eight for the United States, one for Russia. 0.85

01:48:43.000 So the U.S. is winning.

01:48:44.000 U.S. is winning still good.

01:48:44.000 1950.

01:48:45.000 Totally.

01:48:46.000 Yeah, we're way winning. 0.99

01:48:47.000 Russia's like that crazy. 0.99

01:48:49.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:48:50.000 Boom, boom, boom.

01:48:51.000 Now we have 17.

01:48:52.000 By 1951, 24 we have.

01:48:54.000 Holy cow. 0.89

01:48:55.000 32, 33.

01:48:56.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:48:57.000 Canada.

01:48:57.000 A bunch go off in the desert.

01:48:59.000 Look at how many we blow up in Nevada.

01:49:02.000 The reason why gambling is legal right there, by the way.

01:49:04.000 I like the one random one in Australia.

01:49:06.000 They're like, yeah, we're good.

01:49:08.000 Yeah, Australia.

01:49:10.000 Russia just blows off a couple more.

01:49:12.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:49:13.000 So we're up to, United States up to 70, 87 by 1956.

01:49:18.000 We're up to 87 nuclear blasts.

01:49:21.000 117 by 58.

01:49:25.000 So think of that.

01:49:25.000 How mutated are the people in the United States?

01:49:27.000 Look at fucking 58. 0.99

01:49:28.000 By the end of 58, we get up to 196. 0.99

01:49:32.000 By the end of 58. 0.99

01:49:34.000 Damn, there's a lot in California. 0.99

01:49:37.000 Is that California or is that Nevada? 0.99

01:49:39.000 It looked like California at the end.

01:49:41.000 I didn't know there were any in California.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, it does look like California, doesn't it?

01:49:44.000 Yeah.

01:49:44.000 Looks like a million.

01:49:45.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:49:47.000 Look at all of them.

01:49:48.000 302.

01:49:49.000 Look at this.

01:49:50.000 331 nuclear explosions by 63.

01:49:53.000 There's no way those are nukes.

01:49:55.000 Ah, you're wrong.

01:49:57.000 They got to be testing out some kind of technology.

01:50:00.000 Son, they're blowing up nukes.

01:50:02.000 That is insane. 1.00

01:50:03.000 They're lighting them bitches up by a Christmas tree. 1.00

01:50:05.000 And that's why you can get that $4 steak and eggs breakfast in Vegas. 0.99

01:50:15.000 We wonder why everybody has cancer.

01:50:16.000 Look at this.

01:50:17.000 They're up to 590, 600 blasts by 69.

01:50:25.000 By 1969, bro, by the end of 69, it's up to 663 blasts.

01:50:30.000 Now, Nixon gets in there and he's like, we got to really accelerate things.

01:50:32.000 We've got to pick up the pace.

01:50:34.000 The Russians are on our tail. 1.00

01:50:37.000 Damn. 1.00

01:50:37.000 Look at Britain. 1.00

01:50:38.000 Britain stops at 26.

01:50:40.000 I think we're good.

01:50:42.000 What's so weird about this is it seems like the U.S. did it, and then Russia's like, we got it too. 0.55

01:50:46.000 And it could have stopped there, but we just kept going and going.

01:50:49.000 And finally, Russia's like, all right, we got to get in also.

01:50:51.000 Well, this is the Cold War, man.

01:50:53.000 I mean, I'm sure Russia had the same sort of motivations as far as their contractors and the people that were in charge of building this.

01:51:00.000 It's a dome idea, mutually assured destruction. 0.92

01:51:02.000 Like, all these military ideas from 40 years ago we now know are completely ridiculous. 0.51

01:51:07.000 But dude, look at where it's at.

01:51:10.000 Pull back so we can see the numbers, Brian.

01:51:13.000 What did you do?

01:51:14.000 Pull back so you're not on the thing.

01:51:18.000 This animation is making me have to piss.

01:51:20.000 Oh, my God.

01:51:21.000 So animation of all nuclear explosions from 1945 to 1998.

01:51:27.000 And at the end of 1998, it gets to 1,032 nuclear explosions just from the United States of America.

01:51:36.000 715 from Russia, 210 from... 0.99

01:51:41.000 What fucking... 0.99

01:51:41.000 What is that? 0.99

01:51:43.000 Friends.

01:51:46.000 France has a lot of nuclear explosions?

01:51:47.000 Is that France?

01:51:50.000 What is the blue, white, and red?

01:51:51.000 Yeah, it's...

01:51:55.000 Is that Mexico has four?

01:51:56.000 Jesus Christ.

01:51:57.000 Mexico has four explosives?

01:51:58.000 Yeah, Mexico has four.

01:51:59.000 China has 45.

01:52:00.000 Who's the one on the far left?

01:52:02.000 Some hippie thing.

01:52:03.000 Moon and a star, green and white.

01:52:05.000 I think that's like an Arab country.

01:52:06.000 Yeah.

01:52:08.000 Wow, Pakistan. 1.00

01:52:08.000 Oh, India and Pakistan. 1.00

01:52:10.000 That's what that is.

01:52:10.000 India has four.

01:52:11.000 Pakistan has two.

01:52:13.000 Jesus Christ.

01:52:14.000 That's scary.

01:52:15.000 What's really scary is how much was on our side of the coast.

01:52:17.000 You know?

01:52:20.000 It cannot be good.

01:52:21.000 Maybe it's great.

01:52:22.000 Maybe that's why California is awesome. 0.84

01:52:24.000 What if it found out that a little bit of radiation is fucking super good for you and it makes really smart people get it? 0.73

01:52:29.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:52:30.000 And the lack of nuclear radiation that they have in New Jersey is what's a real problem. 0.75

01:52:36.000 They need to detonate a couple of nukes in New Jersey and fucking straighten everybody out. 0.84

01:52:40.000 I'm like, oh, now we get it. 0.95

01:52:42.000 We just need a little bit of radiation in the air.

01:52:45.000 I used to think that maybe cigarettes were probably, when I was competing, I used to think that cigarettes may be like a workout for your lungs.

01:52:52.000 That if you could lift a little weights with your lungs, like if you smoked cigarettes, that your lungs would have to fight against the cigarette smoke and it'd be like lifting weights. 0.97

01:53:02.000 The dumbest idea I've ever had.

01:53:04.000 But it's not too far off from those air trainers, like those oxygen things where you're supposed to suck on those, like boss routines had that air trainer, H2O trainer. 0.98

01:53:14.000 Limits your air intake, right?

01:53:15.000 Yeah, I don't think those work, man.

01:53:17.000 There's a guy who mocked them.

01:53:20.000 But then I saw hypoxia.

01:53:21.000 Like there was a Victor Conte video on hypoxia, which is real similar.

01:53:25.000 They're doing like heavy, high endurance training, high-intensity endurance training, and they do it with like restricted breathing.

01:53:32.000 So I don't know who's right about that.

01:53:34.000 Altitude is supposed to be where it's at.

01:53:37.000 Like sleeping in altitude, but working out in an area where it's got plenty of oxygen.

01:53:43.000 So that seems contrary to me because the idea is to not restrict your oxygen intake while you're exercising, but restricting it while you're resting.

01:53:51.000 That's what's supposed to be good. 0.56

01:53:53.000 Your body realizes like, bitch, we ain't got any air up here. 1.00

01:53:56.000 And then it starts pumping out all these extra blood cells. 0.97

01:53:59.000 You see the article that they found a way to inject oxygen into somebody's body?

01:54:03.000 Yeah.

01:54:04.000 Keeps you from drowning for like 20 seconds.

01:54:06.000 That's amazing.

01:54:07.000 Yeah, that's for now.

01:54:08.000 It's 20 seconds.

01:54:09.000 Who knows what it's going to be?

01:54:10.000 It's going to be like the abyss.

01:54:11.000 I was just thinking that.

01:54:12.000 We're going to have the abyss suits where it fills up with liquid and we can go down to the bottom. 0.94

01:54:16.000 That movie kicked ass until the very end. 0.88

01:54:18.000 The very end, they ruined the whole movie. 0.99

01:54:20.000 Well, pull this out.

01:54:20.000 When you see what the thing looks like.

01:54:22.000 Stupid spaceship. 1.00

01:54:23.000 That thing. 1.00

01:54:24.000 Dumb fucking Toys R Us thing that comes out of the water and you're like, what? 1.00

01:54:30.000 That's not a spaceship. 1.00

01:54:31.000 That's why I like the movies where the director has discipline to leave it to your imagination.

01:54:35.000 Yeah, it's hard, though. 1.00

01:54:36.000 People are dumb. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Yeah, I'm going to see the whole fucking movie at the end of the movie. 1.00

01:54:41.000 You won't even know. 0.99

01:54:42.000 I mean, was it a werewolf?

01:54:44.000 I didn't even get a good picture of it.

01:54:46.000 I want to be able to see what it is.

01:54:48.000 Well, that's like J.J. Abrams.

01:54:49.000 I feel like he's always like...

01:54:52.000 He's got you like right on the edge of your seat, and then you never get the final.

01:54:56.000 You just want to know what it is.

01:54:58.000 He could make up anything.

01:54:59.000 You just want to know.

01:54:59.000 You want to have some kind of certainty, and he doesn't give you that.

01:55:02.000 Well, he gave you a smoke monster, though. 1.00

01:55:04.000 He can go fuck himself for that. 1.00

01:55:06.000 Fucking smoke monster. 1.00

01:55:08.000 You say that today in California, they're trying to figure out if they want to make the gray wolf an endangered specie in California. 1.00

01:55:14.000 I didn't even know there was great wolves in California.

01:55:16.000 Well, great wolves.

01:55:16.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 And this is something that Steve Ranello brought up.

01:55:24.000 They're exactly the same.

01:55:26.000 Like wolves everywhere.

01:55:27.000 It's all this one species of wolf.

01:55:30.000 But that's the same with humans.

01:55:33.000 And some wolves are bigger, just like some humans are bigger. 0.99

01:55:37.000 If you brought a bunch of Germans, big giant fucking German people, and then imported them into Japan, they started dominating. 1.00

01:55:46.000 And people said, well, hey, it's the same species. 0.99

01:55:48.000 We just brought people from another place.

01:55:50.000 It's the same thing.

01:55:52.000 No.

01:55:52.000 No, you're changing the environment by bringing in these much larger versions of what used to exist here.

01:55:59.000 And the wolves that you're seeing in like Yellowstone, these reintroduced wolves, they're from Canada.

01:56:06.000 And they're big.

01:56:08.000 They're like 150 plus pounds.

01:56:10.000 Big but polite.

01:56:11.000 No, they're rude. 0.92

01:56:13.000 They kill a lot of animals.

01:56:14.000 But the wolves that used to be in North America were smaller.

01:56:18.000 See, there's a thing that happens with mammals, and it has to do with the amount of cold that these mammals have to experience.

01:56:27.000 And the more cold they have to experience, the larger their body size is. 0.97

01:56:31.000 That's why polar bears are so fucking big. 0.91

01:56:34.000 And you go to like, deer is a perfect example. 0.98

01:56:38.000 Deer in Mexico have much smaller bodies than deer in Canada.

01:56:43.000 Deer in Canada, like in Alberta and all these Saskatchewan, giant deer.

01:56:48.000 They're 300 plus pounds, some of the big males, the big bucks.

01:56:52.000 But if you take a deer that's the same age and it's in Mexico, it might only be 100 pounds.

01:56:58.000 So the further north you go, The more the animal needs to generate heat from body mass.

01:57:03.000 I wonder if that's why whales are so big, because they go so deep that they're in a super cold, like barely freezing kind of thing, right?

01:57:10.000 It's a mammal.

01:57:10.000 It makes sense.

01:57:11.000 I mean, this is something they've attributed to this reason why grizzly bears and polar bears are so big.

01:57:17.000 As you get north, the same species of animal tends to be larger.

01:57:22.000 Pretty fascinating stuff, man.

01:57:24.000 Pretty fascinating. 0.99

01:57:25.000 And completely makes sense with these Canadian wolves because they're big as fuck, whereas the American wolves were smaller. 0.98

01:57:31.000 They just were always like, you know, 60, 70 pounds, whatever. 0.99

01:57:33.000 So when they brought over these big-ass fucking wolves from Canada and they have that DNA in them, the big ass wolf DNA, these just decimating elk and deer populations in areas where they're at. 0.99

01:57:47.000 And they've reinstituted hunting on them now. 0.99

01:57:50.000 So they brought them in, and now they've got hunting and trapping, and people in Alaska and a lot of parts of North America where they have a lot of wolves, they have wolf season now.

01:57:59.000 You can go hunting wolves.

01:58:01.000 I could never shoot something that's a dog.

01:58:03.000 Yeah, me neither.

01:58:04.000 I was going to do a wolf.

01:58:05.000 Oh, yes, you could.

01:58:06.000 I could do a bear.

01:58:07.000 I could do almost anything else.

01:58:08.000 Can't do a dog.

01:58:09.000 You couldn't do a dog if it was coming after you, if it was trying to eat your family.

01:58:13.000 If I had to.

01:58:15.000 Listen, man, if you were a rancher and you watched a super PAC like they've had in Siberia, you know, Siberia has a legitimate wolf problem.

01:58:23.000 And Siberia at one point in time, you know the story of World War I, the wolf thing with the Germans and the Russians?

01:58:30.000 They call it the ceasefire.

01:58:32.000 Wolves cause a ceasefire.

01:58:34.000 Because so many of the soldiers were getting killed by wolves that they said, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

01:58:38.000 They ran into a super PAC.

01:58:40.000 And while they were, the two armies were connecting with each other, while they were exchanging, they would send out like scouts.

01:58:45.000 Scouts get eaten by wolves.

01:58:47.000 And so they would find like these bodies, like, you know, with their boots on and a foot and their boot, you know, and everything else just smashed and destroyed.

01:58:55.000 And they realized it was these big-ass wolves.

01:58:57.000 Beowulf type stuff.

01:58:58.000 Yeah, it's fascinating because they actually had a meeting and they, you know, they said, okay, let's ceasefire. 1.00

01:59:04.000 Let's go kill these fucking wolves. 1.00

01:59:05.000 Then we'll go back to killing each other. 1.00

01:59:07.000 So they had a ceasefire, killed all the wolves, and then went back to war. 0.96

01:59:10.000 Wow.

01:59:11.000 It's crazy.

01:59:13.000 But that can happen with wolves.

01:59:16.000 Wolves can develop super PACs.

01:59:18.000 And in Siberia, they started taking out horses and farm animals.

01:59:21.000 And they would go 100 wolves strong and just invade a farm. 0.99

01:59:25.000 And good fucking luck stopping them. 0.99

01:59:27.000 They figure out a way to get over the fences and then they would just go crazy. 0.99

01:59:31.000 When things get collaborative, you get a lot more power.

01:59:33.000 It's like the same as dolphins.

01:59:35.000 One dolphin can't do anything, but a whole pack of them can kill a shark, I think. 0.96

01:59:39.000 Yeah, well, dolphins are really good at at least fucking sharks up. 0.96

01:59:42.000 Orcas kill sharks on a regular. 0.98

01:59:43.000 Orcas are so smart, they figured out how to kill sharks the easy way.

01:59:47.000 Like they, you know, they can communicate with each other and talk.

01:59:50.000 We don't know what they're saying, but we know they're talking.

01:59:52.000 They figured out how to pass the knowledge from generation to generation that the way to kill a shark is you bite it and then you flip it upside down.

01:59:58.000 When you flip a shark upside down, they're like really old designs. 1.00

02:00:02.000 Their designs suck. 1.00

02:00:04.000 It's like God got to them and it was like he wasn't really good at making shit then. 1.00

02:00:09.000 It's like old cars. 0.98

02:00:11.000 Like try driving like a 1970 Plymouth. 1.00

02:00:15.000 Their suspensions dog shit. 1.00

02:00:17.000 Their brakes suck. 1.00

02:00:18.000 No seatbelts. 0.99

02:00:19.000 The steering is so vague.

02:00:21.000 You don't know what it's transmitting. 1.00

02:00:23.000 They're dog shit cars. 1.00

02:00:25.000 That's what a shark is. 1.00

02:00:26.000 It's a dog shit animal. 1.00

02:00:28.000 Like the design was terrible. 1.00

02:00:29.000 They have to keep moving.

02:00:31.000 And if you flip them upside down, they just bonk out and die.

02:00:35.000 So the orcas grab them and just flip them upside down and hold on to them and drown them.

02:00:39.000 And then they eat them.

02:00:39.000 Wow.

02:00:40.000 That's such a sign of intelligence that they found the cheat code to killing what would be their biggest predator.

02:00:45.000 Yeah, well, that is the only predator that they would have.

02:00:49.000 I mean, they would have to worry about them around their small, their cubs, their babies.

02:00:54.000 But an orca is way smarter and more powerful than a shark. 1.00

02:00:58.000 A shark is just an idiot. 1.00

02:00:59.000 So the orca is basically like a human being that's animated. 1.00

02:01:03.000 A shark is almost like a biological robot in the same way that spiders are.

02:01:07.000 Yes.

02:01:07.000 Of any animal, spiders are the only one where I got curious and researched them online.

02:01:13.000 And the more I read, the less I liked them. 0.98

02:01:15.000 Because normally no matter what it is, you're like, oh, shit, they can do that. 0.99

02:01:18.000 That's amazing. 0.99

02:01:19.000 And I got to the point where it was a video and it was the mating ritual of jumping spiders. 0.86

02:01:24.000 And at first I was like, oh, shit, I am going to like spiders because what they do to attract each other is the male like pounds his legs on the ground and the sound vibrations, I guess, stimulate the female in some way. 0.82

02:01:36.000 Yeah, so what happened in the video though is like, if I'm remembering correctly, the male jumping spider looks like he's going to get some and they zoom in on his eyes and you're like, oh, if a spider could be happy, this spider is probably happy, right? 0.98

02:01:50.000 And then it looks like the female is about to get mounted. 1.00

02:01:53.000 She takes a big fucking bite out and like and then just jumps off and he jumps off in the other direction and you can see the guts and like you know what fuck spiders zero respect because I was starting to think like I shouldn't kill spiders if I see them in my apartment. 0.99

02:02:06.000 I should either leave them alone or let them take the time to let them out. 0.99

02:02:09.000 This is it I think. 1.00

02:02:13.000 Look at these little bastards. 1.00

02:02:14.000 Well they're evil. 1.00

02:02:16.000 They have no morals. 0.99

02:02:17.000 They're robots.

02:02:18.000 They don't conscience.

02:02:19.000 They just know how to seek out protein. 0.95

02:02:22.000 Yeah, and they have venom.

02:02:24.000 They're creepy. 0.99

02:02:25.000 I mean just the idea of black widows. 1.00

02:02:28.000 Necrosis is such a dick move. 0.99

02:02:30.000 Like it's not bad enough that you left a bite. 0.97

02:02:32.000 The whole thing's got to rot out over time.

02:02:34.000 And some of them can kill a person pretty easy.

02:02:38.000 Like there's there's certain spiders like those brown recluses that just do unbelievable damage with one of their stings.

02:02:46.000 If you want to never go into the woods again or ever leave your apartment, just do a Google image search for recluse bites.

02:02:53.000 Yeah, they're horrible.

02:02:54.000 The necrosis aspect of it is one of the grossest things.

02:02:57.000 It just causes all the flesh to die around the wound.

02:03:00.000 Yeah.

02:03:01.000 Oof.

02:03:02.000 I don't know if this is the one that I saw because I don't remember there being captions, but it's the same idea.

02:03:07.000 Because this is what they do to attract each other, but there's a good chance whenever they do this ritual that the female will choose to eat the male. 0.92

02:03:13.000 And that right there is a sign of insanity to me.

02:03:16.000 And the female's larger all the time. 1.00

02:03:17.000 He's trying to fuck you and show you a good time with his leg dance, and you tear his abdomen out. 1.00

02:03:24.000 Well, the matriarchal society is like common in bugs. 1.00

02:03:27.000 It's in ants.

02:03:29.000 You know, in ants, there's a lot of female ants that they kill the males, and the way they breed with him, they cut his wings off, they cut his legs off, and they take him into the hive and breed with him.

02:03:42.000 Look at his, It doesn't even look really good.

02:03:43.000 That's a jumping spider.

02:03:45.000 It doesn't even look really good.

02:03:46.000 It's adorable.

02:03:48.000 So strange looking.

02:03:49.000 There's actually a meme.

02:03:50.000 It's like misunderstood spider.

02:03:53.000 And he's like, oh, great.

02:03:55.000 What are you doing over there? 1.00

02:03:56.000 He's like, you bitch, you just sprayed me. 1.00

02:03:59.000 Look at his eyes. 1.00

02:04:00.000 What a creepy fucking bug. 1.00

02:04:03.000 It's weird that the same world that evolved that thing also evolved us. 1.00

02:04:06.000 I watched a video the other day.

02:04:08.000 I didn't know king snakes were so gangster because you know king snakes have no venom.

02:04:14.000 So I always thought like king snakes are just like garden snakes.

02:04:17.000 Oh no no no.

02:04:18.000 King snakes eat rattlesnakes whole.

02:04:22.000 You got to pull up a video of a king snake eating a rattlesnake. 0.99

02:04:25.000 I had no fucking idea. 0.99

02:04:27.000 King snakes have a certain protein in their body that diffuses rattlesnake venom. 0.99

02:04:31.000 It makes them immune to it.

02:04:32.000 That's a predator's predator right there. 1.00

02:04:34.000 Yeah, they don't even have teeth, but they just dash onto a fucking rattlesnake, get a hold of that bitch, screw him up tight, and start swallowing them whole headfirst. 1.00

02:04:44.000 They get a hold of him so fast that the rattlesnake doesn't even have a chance to bite him, clamp a hold of his head and just stretch their mouth out. 1.00

02:04:51.000 I mean, the difference being like Joey Diaz eating you.

02:04:55.000 Like not that much difference in size.

02:04:57.000 Like not enough where you would go, how is Joey get David Seaman in his whole body?

02:05:02.000 Like look, but this is like a choice meal for the kingsnake.

02:05:06.000 This is the Joey snake.

02:05:07.000 Yeah, look at this snake. 1.00

02:05:08.000 I mean evil-looking motherfucker, but look at that evil fucker. 1.00

02:05:11.000 You would think, now the rattlesnake is a big, fat, evil-looking snake. 1.00

02:05:15.000 That's got to be the key predator here. 0.77

02:05:18.000 And this kingsnake doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

02:05:20.000 Boy, he's going near that rattlesnake. 0.99

02:05:22.000 He's going to get killed and eaten. 1.00

02:05:25.000 No, the rattlesnake eats a bunch of pussy mice. 1.00

02:05:28.000 This is why you can't expect perfection in government. 0.98

02:05:31.000 This is the alternative.

02:05:32.000 Look at this.

02:05:33.000 We're always like, we should get back to nature.

02:05:35.000 We should be more in touch. 0.99

02:05:36.000 This is fucking awful. 0.99

02:05:37.000 Like, it's good that we broke free. 1.00

02:05:38.000 Nature's ruthless. 0.91

02:05:40.000 You don't want to get back to nature because nature does give no fucks about you. 0.89

02:05:45.000 Look at this thing. 0.92

02:05:45.000 Look at this. 0.92

02:05:46.000 It gets up to the rattlesnake and it's like, hi.

02:05:49.000 How you doing?

02:05:52.000 Hey, I got a question for you. 1.00

02:05:54.000 You mind if I get your fucking asshole? 1.00

02:05:56.000 Clamps a hold of it and runs with it. 1.00

02:05:56.000 Look at that. 1.00

02:05:59.000 Drags this big fat rattlesnake that's the size of it.

02:06:03.000 Look at the width of the rattlesnake and look at the width of its body.

02:06:06.000 It's the same size.

02:06:08.000 Look at that thing. 0.92

02:06:09.000 It's swallowing something that's the same size as it.

02:06:12.000 That's ambition.

02:06:14.000 It's ruthless.

02:06:16.000 It's nature, right?

02:06:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:06:17.000 Nature's an evil fucking cunt. 1.00

02:06:19.000 While we're on the topic of snakes, have you seen that YouTube video where the snake charmer is charming the cobra and then gets right up to it and kisses it on the head and then backs away? 1.00

02:06:30.000 No.

02:06:31.000 You got to watch this because it's like inspirational.

02:06:33.000 Yeah, but you know, they take the teeth out of those things. 1.00

02:06:35.000 Is that what it is?

02:06:36.000 So he doesn't care if it bites him?

02:06:37.000 Yeah.

02:06:38.000 That's not the same.

02:06:39.000 You got to do it with a live one.

02:06:40.000 There's cool videos of like these really dangerous, scary snakes with babies and it's just like wrapping around the baby and trying to bite the baby's face.

02:06:49.000 They just tap the baby's forehead with their nose where their teeth don't come out because they had them removed.

02:06:54.000 That's not right.

02:06:56.000 I'm in favor of a fair fight. 1.00

02:06:58.000 Fuck a fair fight, dude. 1.00

02:06:59.000 You would never have steak. 1.00

02:07:01.000 If there was a fair fight, you would never get a cheeseburger.

02:07:04.000 Do you understand that?

02:07:05.000 If there's fair fights, you lose every time.

02:07:07.000 You're not going to get meat from a bull.

02:07:10.000 How are you even going to get close?

02:07:11.000 What's the fair fight? 0.99

02:07:12.000 Fair fight means for every one of them we kill, they kill one of us. 1.00

02:07:16.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

02:07:17.000 We would laid off steak a long time ago. 1.00

02:07:20.000 You were talking with great passion about your cheeseburger and beer you had.

02:07:24.000 Those don't exist.

02:07:25.000 Look at this. 0.88

02:07:26.000 Snake popping this little kid in the head. 1.00

02:07:29.000 First of all, those people are assholes. 1.00

02:07:30.000 Yeah, it's so ridiculous. 1.00

02:07:32.000 Why even let that kid get relaxed about being around a fucking snake? 1.00

02:07:36.000 This is like the real life Xbox right here. 1.00

02:07:38.000 This is how it is in some parts of the world.

02:07:40.000 Yeah.

02:07:41.000 Yeah, look how horrible this is, though. 1.00

02:07:43.000 This fucking poor baby. 1.00

02:07:44.000 Look, it's getting tapped on the head. 1.00

02:07:46.000 That thing's trying to kill him. 1.00

02:07:48.000 That thing is trying to kill that baby. 1.00

02:07:50.000 Whether or not it actually kills that baby, it's still, you're letting some heartless, vicious thing try to kill your baby. 1.00

02:07:57.000 Look if it poked it in the eye.

02:07:58.000 It just observes him afterwards.

02:07:59.000 Like, huh?

02:08:00.000 Yeah.

02:08:01.000 But look at this.

02:08:02.000 It's like trying to grab her.

02:08:04.000 Oh, my God.

02:08:06.000 That's so disturbing.

02:08:07.000 Oh, my God.

02:08:08.000 And what's crazy, it starts with the baby.

02:08:10.000 And it starts wrapping around the babies, which I don't think is cool at all.

02:08:14.000 Because, I mean, that's still got it.

02:08:15.000 Well, I'm glad you took a stand.

02:08:18.000 Serious party foul.

02:08:19.000 No, but I mean, I understand, like, it's kind of cute having a snake shooter, but look at this right here.

02:08:23.000 It grabbed it. 0.97

02:08:24.000 Yeah, and that's when the baby probably got really fucked up and they stopped the video. 0.97

02:08:29.000 That's just wrong, man. 1.00

02:08:30.000 You're letting your baby wrestle a fucking cobra. 1.00

02:08:32.000 How much do you hate your kids? 1.00

02:08:35.000 Let a cobra bite your baby. 1.00

02:08:36.000 If a cobra even with no teeth bit my baby, I'd punt that thing to the fucking moon. 1.00

02:08:41.000 It's just tough love. 1.00

02:08:42.000 That's a belt.

02:08:43.000 That thing is a belt.

02:08:44.000 Sorry.

02:08:45.000 Pair of boots.

02:08:46.000 You give up your life.

02:08:47.000 You give up your life.

02:08:48.000 You tried to peck a baby.

02:08:51.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

02:08:53.000 Evil, fucking, creepy, fanned-out snake asshole. 1.00

02:08:56.000 That's just so goofy. 1.00

02:08:59.000 I don't need to see this anymore, man.

02:09:00.000 This is disturbing. 1.00

02:09:02.000 Asshole parents. 1.00

02:09:04.000 Shitty fucking bad snake charmer fucking parents. 1.00

02:09:10.000 David seems thinking about it. 1.00

02:09:12.000 He's like, whatever.

02:09:13.000 David, are you going to have a baby someday?

02:09:14.000 Do you want a baby?

02:09:16.000 I want kids.

02:09:17.000 I don't want a baby.

02:09:18.000 I'm willing to...

02:09:20.000 willing to deal with the baby phase, but that's not what I want.

02:09:24.000 Yeah, big brother. 0.97

02:09:25.000 But I want it to be biologically related to me because I think that this sounds really selfish and like full of shit, but I think that one of the only ways that we gain immortality is the fact that we're allowing part of us to carry on. 0.76

02:09:38.000 And I think it's really cool to think about, like, oh, I'm part my dad, and he's part his grandfather, and that this is the way that we communicate through thousands of years.

02:09:48.000 Do you think that that's all going to go away when there's real genetic manipulation?

02:09:52.000 Yeah, we're talking about creating an artificial human being.

02:09:52.000 Probably.

02:09:55.000 That one day there's going to be...

02:10:01.000 Why?

02:10:03.000 When we're talking about artificial human beings, we're talking about the ability to duplicate everything.

02:10:08.000 We're talking about the old man, the 60-year-old man, who didn't realize that he never lived a life.

02:10:12.000 And they implanted all these memories in him and he starts crying.

02:10:15.000 He's like Blade Runner, like a replicant.

02:10:17.000 Exactly.

02:10:18.000 Like Rutger Hauer, like the end when he's just, he's really almost human and so human that he actually lets Harrison Ford survive.

02:10:26.000 He's got compassion and he's calculating.

02:10:28.000 Totally.

02:10:29.000 When you get to that point, and then you get to the point where you are able to manipulate genetics and you say, you know, hey, you know, I'm just going to stick with the genetics I've got.

02:10:39.000 I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I don't need to make anything any better.

02:10:43.000 And everyone around you is he-man. 1.00

02:10:45.000 Everyone around you is goddamn Adonis. 0.99

02:10:47.000 Everyone around you is Michael Jordan in his prime. 0.99

02:10:50.000 Everyone around you is his giant super athlete.

02:10:53.000 And you just decide, I just like being me, normal me.

02:10:56.000 And our society breaks down between mods and regs.

02:11:01.000 Like, there's no more racism.

02:11:02.000 Now it's mods and regs.

02:11:04.000 Skattica kind of situation.

02:11:05.000 Yeah.

02:11:06.000 You get like a second-tier citizen if you're not biologically perfect.

02:11:12.000 Well, there's some things that people had contemplated or thought may be the case someday in the future that have turned out to be real.

02:11:21.000 A great example, we were talking about this yesterday, was Ed TV.

02:11:25.000 That Matthew McConaughey movie where he played a guy where they just followed a regular guy with a camera and it was a show.

02:11:30.000 It was a Truman show kind of movie.

02:11:32.000 No, but it was a real show that he knew about.

02:11:34.000 The Truman show was the fact that he didn't know about the Truman Show.

02:11:37.000 But that a real show was based on this guy's life, just him living his life.

02:11:42.000 And everybody wanted to know what he was going to do.

02:11:44.000 You're going to marry the girl?

02:11:45.000 Are you going to get the job?

02:11:47.000 And they're following him around with the camera and he becomes famous for no reason.

02:11:50.000 And then he realizes how crazy it is.

02:11:52.000 in the end there's supposed to be some sort of a lesson that we learned nobody thought Why?

02:11:59.000 Because that movie is just a reality show.

02:12:01.000 And no one's going to buy a movie about a reality show. 1.00

02:12:03.000 That's stupid. 1.00

02:12:05.000 Like it's some strange thing. 1.00

02:12:07.000 No, you've got Kim Kardashian, who's the most famous woman on the planet Earth. 1.00

02:12:12.000 She is Ed TV.

02:12:14.000 I mean, now it's real. 0.97

02:12:16.000 So things like Gattaca, science fiction, wow, craziness, genetically modified human beings, the modified ones versus the non-modified ones, and the elitism of the separation because of resources, of people that can afford to be perfect, and then the rest of the dregs of society, they're out there banging at the door, trying to get into the fucking spaceship. 0.95

02:12:38.000 That's all coming, man. 0.83

02:12:40.000 It's going to happen.

02:12:42.000 If we stay alive, it's going to happen.

02:12:44.000 There's going to be perfect people.

02:12:45.000 If you don't have enough Bitcoins, you don't get into the spaceship to Mars.

02:12:49.000 It's interesting how the founding fathers didn't address stuff like digital privacy or where your metadata should be stored because they could not picture it.

02:12:57.000 They had no idea what a smartphone was.

02:12:59.000 And that was only a few hundred years. 1.00

02:13:01.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:13:02.000 Clinton couldn't have saw it coming. 1.00

02:13:04.000 No one saw it coming.

02:13:05.000 But we're also talking about, well, who owns space?

02:13:07.000 Who owns the minerals that are on Mars?

02:13:09.000 These would be ridiculous questions a couple hundred years ago.

02:13:12.000 And I think in the same way, it seems to be like, well, should we have fully automated police officers?

02:13:17.000 Like, should we have the centurions from whatever they were, the Cylon Centurions? 0.53

02:13:22.000 Should we have those things walking our streets? 0.53

02:13:23.000 And those are going to be issues in the next 20 years, not the next 100 years.

02:13:27.000 Yeah, that's a really interesting point about trying to figure out who owns the natural resources in space.

02:13:35.000 Because that's probably going to be...

02:13:38.000 If you think about why humans fight, it's mostly for resources.

02:13:43.000 I could totally see China and the U.S. duking it out in some kind of interstellar.

02:13:47.000 Yeah, could you imagine?

02:13:48.000 Like if they found that there was an asteroid or something and it has, you know, fucking $100 trillion worth of oil in it or diamonds or what have you, and you could get there in a day's time. 0.57

02:14:05.000 And then Russia says, we're going. 1.00

02:14:06.000 And the United States says, fuck you, we're going. 1.00

02:14:08.000 And they try to duke it out over who they have space wars. 1.00

02:14:12.000 They're flying around shooting rockets at each other in space. 0.99

02:14:16.000 Laser beams and shit. 0.99

02:14:18.000 Death rays. 1.00

02:14:19.000 Star Wars.

02:14:20.000 The actual military program being used like satellites shooting at space shuttles where they're on their way to this asteroid to get diamonds.

02:14:29.000 It's going to be crazy.

02:14:30.000 And also, space right now is still mostly government sponsored.

02:14:34.000 So they think of a specific mission. 0.98

02:14:36.000 Like, let's go to Mars and photograph some shit and send back the photos. 0.98

02:14:39.000 And then once that's done, the mission's over. 0.98

02:14:41.000 But once we get true...

02:14:43.000 I hate to sound like...

02:14:47.000 Once we get like free market enterprise in space, as cheesy as that sounds, we're like, the motivation never stops.

02:14:53.000 The mission never stops.

02:14:54.000 The mission is we got to go further and find more resources.

02:14:57.000 Once we do that, we're going to explore such a large part of space because the money aspect is finally there.

02:15:03.000 You're right.

02:15:04.000 Whereas before, it's just like, we'll do this because we have to do it.

02:15:06.000 We have to beat Russia, but then we're coming home. 0.97

02:15:08.000 Wasn't that like the premise of the movie Alien?

02:15:08.000 You're right.

02:15:11.000 Weren't they mining?

02:15:12.000 Really mining.

02:15:12.000 I think Ridley Scott has the most accurate picture of what the future will look like.

02:15:16.000 It's not going to be utopian.

02:15:18.000 It's not going to be completely awful.

02:15:19.000 It's just going to be powerful space mining companies give us the motivation to create really fast spaceships because we've got to get out there faster to beat other companies.

02:15:28.000 And once you have the same competitive drive that makes your phone so good and makes all this shit possible, get that in space.

02:15:34.000 It's going to be completely insane. 0.99

02:15:36.000 Yeah, no shit, right? 0.98

02:15:37.000 That's really what's going to propel space travel. 0.99

02:15:39.000 They figure out a way to make trillions of dollars by mining asteroids and things along those lines. 0.56

02:15:45.000 The really Scott versions of Alien 2 were like the most likely scenario of what the fuck would happen if something got to us. 0.94

02:15:52.000 Like something that breeds as quickly as a disease. 0.75

02:15:55.000 Something that grows to a gigantic size really quickly.

02:15:58.000 Like all of our biological limitations that we sort of put on bodies and aliens and what would a body look like if it came from space. 0.99

02:16:06.000 It probably looked like a fucking spider, like alien. 0.99

02:16:09.000 What is alien? 1.00

02:16:10.000 It's a giant spider.

02:16:11.000 And they can't reason with that thing and tell it like, don't be a predator and eat everybody on the spaceship.

02:16:16.000 It's the same as like you talking about sharks.

02:16:18.000 That's something that was developed in the same system as us.

02:16:22.000 And we can't even convince a shark not to eat us.

02:16:24.000 Think about when you're facing the thing with the mouth coming out of it, multiple mouths.

02:16:29.000 There's going to be No way to stop whatever.

02:16:29.000 Yeah.

02:16:32.000 What was the other movie that was kind of like that?

02:16:34.000 With Harrison Ford, that movie that came out recently.

02:16:37.000 Recently?

02:16:38.000 Ender's Game?

02:16:38.000 Ender's Game.

02:16:39.000 I didn't see that.

02:16:40.000 Was that any good?

02:16:40.000 I thought it was pretty good.

02:16:41.000 Yeah.

02:16:42.000 But they go after this insect race, and it's hard for them to communicate and figure out what that race's intentions are because they're so alien.

02:16:50.000 You know, it's like they're talking to like human-sized ants, basically.

02:16:53.000 Oh, that's cool. 0.99

02:16:55.000 We can't even figure out what the fuck orcas are saying, and we swim on top of them. 1.00

02:16:59.000 They ride those motherfuckers, and we can't figure out what they're saying. 1.00

02:17:03.000 They don't know what dolphins are saying. 1.00

02:17:05.000 They know when they're upset.

02:17:07.000 That's it.

02:17:08.000 They know when they're happy.

02:17:10.000 But they're here and we've been studying them for decades. 0.99

02:17:14.000 We don't know shit. 0.96

02:17:15.000 There's no like dolphin decoder device where we hear and it comes out like Google text. 0.98

02:17:23.000 David Brin has this really interesting idea.

02:17:25.000 I think he calls it uplifting.

02:17:26.000 And it's, I don't know if he actually believes this or if it was like something he wrote in a science fiction book, but it's a really cool idea.

02:17:32.000 And it's that at some point, we're going to look to other species on the earth that we find to be interesting, probably dogs and dolphins and stuff.

02:17:40.000 And we're like, we're going to upgrade you.

02:17:41.000 We're going to figure out a way for us to communicate directly because you're very similar to us and you probably have a perspective that's different from the human perspective.

02:17:49.000 So we're going to elevate them to our level.

02:17:51.000 Whereas right now they're kind of like savages.

02:17:53.000 We're going to bring them into modern society and kind of coexist with these other species in a way that we've never done before.

02:18:02.000 Wow.

02:18:03.000 Well, that is what they, when you get to the real nutty people that think that human beings were engineered by aliens, that's essentially the premise of the last one.

02:18:12.000 Prometheus.

02:18:13.000 Prometheus.

02:18:13.000 Yeah.

02:18:14.000 The engineer.

02:18:16.000 That is the premise.

02:18:16.000 The premise is that human beings were in some way or form designed by something more intelligent.

02:18:23.000 They decided to bring us up a little bit. 0.99

02:18:25.000 That engineer was such a dick. 1.00

02:18:26.000 It's smart enough to create the human race, but just flips out and starts killing people. 1.00

02:18:30.000 Stupid movie. 1.00

02:18:31.000 That movie sucked. 1.00

02:18:32.000 It was cool. 0.99

02:18:33.000 It was okay.

02:18:34.000 I'm science fiction.

02:18:35.000 I enjoy those movies, but it wasn't.

02:18:35.000 It's fun.

02:18:39.000 The first one was so goddamn good. 0.99

02:18:42.000 And then the second one was pretty fucking good. 0.99

02:18:45.000 And then the third one was not very good. 0.98

02:18:48.000 And then the fourth one was not good.

02:18:50.000 And then this one was, oh man.

02:18:53.000 You spent a lot of money on this.

02:18:55.000 Did you talk to any geeks?

02:18:56.000 You need to talk to geeks. 0.99

02:18:58.000 Get a real fucking science fiction geek and ask him, what's wrong with this movie? 0.99

02:19:02.000 And he'll tell you. 0.99

02:19:03.000 Like, why is he freaking out?

02:19:04.000 Why is this super smart giant dude roiting out?

02:19:10.000 And they have this huge, like, hologram version of the universe.

02:19:13.000 They have to, like, see it all, like, in three-dimensional and flying through space.

02:19:17.000 Is that just because you wanted to use that technology?

02:19:19.000 Like, that's an inefficient way of mapping out the universe.

02:19:22.000 The universe is infinite. 0.99

02:19:24.000 Can we have an infinite map up there in the fucking sky? 0.99

02:19:27.000 You would just have a tablet and hit Earth, done. 0.99

02:19:29.000 Yeah.

02:19:30.000 No need for all this.

02:19:31.000 Yeah, take me to Miami.

02:19:32.000 Boom.

02:19:34.000 Did you watch the blood moon?

02:19:36.000 That was a trip.

02:19:37.000 Yeah, it was weird.

02:19:38.000 How often does that happen?

02:19:39.000 I don't even know exactly what a blood moon is.

02:19:41.000 Is that just the regular eclipse?

02:19:42.000 Yeah.

02:19:43.000 It's an eclipse, but there's something that happens where it looks red.

02:19:46.000 Okay, well, let's find out.

02:19:48.000 I think it's every three or four years there's an eclipse, but I'm not sure about the blood moon part.

02:19:51.000 But the weird thing is when it got to that orange-ish, reddish phase, it literally looked like somebody just threw a ball and it was just floating there.

02:20:00.000 Like it didn't look like the moon because the lighting, especially when it started hitting the left side, really made, you never saw lighting come from the bottom like that. 0.97

02:20:08.000 It just made the whole moon look fake as fuck.

02:20:11.000 Yeah, there's a cool thing on CNN where they have all the various images of it and they have some people did like time lapses. 0.98

02:20:20.000 And it's interesting in the time lapse, you see like when it's in certain parts of the sky, it's totally white.

02:20:26.000 And then it gets to one small segment of the sky where there's some sort of a reflection or something.

02:20:32.000 And that is what's causing it.

02:20:33.000 If rain clouds, rain or clouds obscured your lunar experience, don't fret.

02:20:39.000 This episode is one of the first four consecutive total lunar eclipses known as a tetrad that will occur in a six-month interval until September of 2015.

02:20:52.000 Wow.

02:20:53.000 Unlike solar eclipses, lunar eclipses are safe to view with the naked eye and don't require special filters.

02:20:59.000 So it's a part of the eclipse process.

02:21:02.000 Like that right there.

02:21:03.000 When you saw that part, look at that photo.

02:21:06.000 When that part happened, it's like, all right, this is not the moon. 0.99

02:21:08.000 What the fuck is this thing? 0.99

02:21:10.000 It's creepy. 1.00

02:21:12.000 It's almost like it's semi-transparent.

02:21:14.000 It's pretty cool.

02:21:15.000 Some guy has this really wacky YouTube page that I just found out about.

02:21:20.000 And it's interesting when you go to someone's YouTube page and you find out that they have like every video has like 2 million plus views.

02:21:28.000 I'm like, this is nuts.

02:21:28.000 This guy has insane amount of views.

02:21:30.000 And it's sort of a science-based one.

02:21:32.000 It's kind of cool that it has so many views because it's a really intelligent YouTube page.

02:21:36.000 Someone was asking me to have the guy on the podcast and I had never heard of the guy.

02:21:39.000 So I go to his page.

02:21:40.000 I was like, what?

02:21:41.000 One of them was, what if the moon was a giant disco ball?

02:21:46.000 And what if the moon was a disco ball and it was only 300 miles from the Earth's surface?

02:21:50.000 It was like floating right above.

02:21:52.000 What would it look like?

02:21:53.000 So they did this animated thing of what the moon would look like as a disco ball that's 300 miles away.

02:21:59.000 It's insane.

02:22:00.000 It fills up the whole night sky.

02:22:02.000 Like you realize how big the moon really is and you're like, oh my God.

02:22:08.000 Like when you see this graphic representation of it filling up the night sky, it's a really cool idea that they try to do that.

02:22:14.000 I mean, it would never, don't put it up.

02:22:17.000 Jesus Christ.

02:22:18.000 Did you go over this?

02:22:19.000 How many times do we have to go over this?

02:22:23.000 The size of it, though, in relationship to the Earth, then you really get an idea of the one quarter of the size of the Earth.

02:22:30.000 Like, that's how big the moon actually is.

02:22:32.000 Just wanted to wait the fuck up there.

02:22:33.000 It's this little tiny thing. 0.89

02:22:34.000 But if it was floating in our sky, it would literally take up the entire night sky.

02:22:38.000 That space show, man, I'm so addicted to it.

02:22:41.000 Cosmos.

02:22:42.000 That's awesome.

02:22:43.000 So awesome. 1.00

02:22:44.000 Well, Seth McFarlane's a bad motherfucker, and Neil deGrasse Tyson is also a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:22:50.000 He'll be on. 0.99

02:22:50.000 Hopefully, I'll get him on this month. 0.99

02:22:52.000 He's around.

02:22:53.000 He's back and forth.

02:22:54.000 We've been emailing each other. 1.00

02:22:55.000 He's busy as fuck. 0.99

02:22:56.000 I hope it does well. 0.99

02:22:58.000 I don't know what the ratings are of it, but I was wondering while I was watching it.

02:23:01.000 Are they good?

02:23:02.000 Yeah, it's really good.

02:23:03.000 And what's really cool is that it's on like Hulu and stuff like that, so you can just watch it straight up.

02:23:07.000 But I was just wondering if you're not going to be able to do it.

02:23:07.000 You just got to cross-promote it with like Duck Hunter.

02:23:12.000 There's some stupid fucking shows on the Discovery channel, man. 1.00

02:23:15.000 I went to Discovery the other day and I was like, how did Discovery become this? 1.00

02:23:19.000 All of them.

02:23:19.000 The TLC is now like nothing to do with learning.

02:23:22.000 What is that?

02:23:23.000 What happened?

02:23:24.000 Honey Boo-Boo channel now.

02:23:26.000 Discovery has these shows that have nothing to do with discovering anything.

02:23:32.000 Now, if you want what Discovery used to be, you got to head over to Science Channel and then you get How It's Made is one of my favorite shows to watch while I'm enjoying certain substances because it gives you an appreciation for everything.

02:23:46.000 Like something boring, like this bottle of water becomes fascinating.

02:23:49.000 Yeah, How It's Made is a really cool show.

02:23:52.000 It's disturbing, though, looking at there's a new show on Discovery.

02:23:58.000 You remember that video that we played with Ted Nugent and this guy Pigman shooting pigs from a helicopter?

02:24:04.000 Just machine gunning pigs out of a helicopter, these wild feral pigs that they have to eradicate from a lot of these Texas farms?

02:24:10.000 Well, now he's got his own show.

02:24:12.000 Pigman has his own show.

02:24:13.000 It's called Boss Hog. 0.83

02:24:14.000 And on Boss Hog, he's running around. 0.95

02:24:17.000 He owns a barbecue place that cooks up these pigs that he shoots. 0.93

02:24:21.000 And him and his dad run around shooting pigs.

02:24:24.000 And then they have a lot of fake scenarios that take place because they're obviously artificially scripted scenarios.

02:24:31.000 It shows you that we're animals still, and we're starting to accept that. 0.58

02:24:34.000 I don't think it is entirely bad that we're going to stupider programming because, or not stupider, but things that we're doing. 0.95

02:24:40.000 But it's the Discovery Channel. 0.93

02:24:41.000 Things that have to do with science because we're like, oh, we like to watch people hunt.

02:24:45.000 We like to watch people negotiate and that's pawn stars. 1.00

02:24:48.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:24:49.000 We're just interested in seeing other humans do all these things that we have to do. 1.00

02:24:54.000 But their logo has a fucking planet in it. 0.99

02:24:59.000 I mean, the Discovery Channel. 0.99

02:25:00.000 It's like you're thinking about like, oh, we're going to watch a documentary around polar bears.

02:25:04.000 We're going to see leopard seals.

02:25:07.000 You're not going to discover anything. 1.00

02:25:08.000 You're going to discover the back of a fucking pawn shop. 0.99

02:25:10.000 We're going to show you how to make some barbecue. 1.00

02:25:14.000 Woo! 0.99

02:25:15.000 We're going to sell moonshine.

02:25:16.000 We're crazy.

02:25:17.000 That cop doesn't even see the camera.

02:25:19.000 Look how normal he acts.

02:25:20.000 What's in the truck?

02:25:21.000 What's in the truck? 1.00

02:25:22.000 Why is there a camera pointing at you and a fucking crew? 0.99

02:25:25.000 Why is there microphones on everybody? 0.99

02:25:27.000 How about that question? 1.00

02:25:28.000 That mermaid shit, all that, those creepy videos. 1.00

02:25:32.000 Perfect example. 1.00

02:25:33.000 That animal planet made a fake fucking show on mermaids, like a fake who pretended that there were real mermaids. 0.99

02:25:40.000 And they knew they were trolling the whole time. 1.00

02:25:43.000 You know how many dummies sent me fucking tweets? 0.99

02:25:45.000 They found real mermaids. 1.00

02:25:48.000 No.

02:25:48.000 No, they didn't.

02:25:49.000 No, they didn't find real mermaids.

02:25:51.000 I'm about to actually cancel my cable this week, I think.

02:25:54.000 I think I've done a street internet.

02:25:56.000 I've been trying to just do a soft cancel where I act like I don't have it.

02:26:00.000 And I just go on Netflix, go on Hulu.

02:26:02.000 Hulu's the best, man.

02:26:03.000 Hulu.

02:26:04.000 Between Hulu, Hulu is badass.

02:26:05.000 Hulu, Netflix, and Amazon video, there's no reason to really have cable.

02:26:09.000 Except for like when there's a live event.

02:26:12.000 I think you can pay some kind of small fee for CNN Live, and then you're good, you know?

02:26:17.000 Well, you know, and I don't want to recommend BitTorrent, but you know there's a way to get things.

02:26:24.000 And the most BitTorrented show ever in the history of BitTorrent is the most recent episode of Game of Thrones.

02:26:31.000 Really?

02:26:32.000 Yeah.

02:26:32.000 It was BitTorrent by some insane number.

02:26:36.000 I think it was 200,000 different people had it available for downloading, which is amazing.

02:26:43.000 Here it is.

02:26:44.000 The winner for the largest BitTorrent swarm ever.

02:26:47.000 193,000 pirates simultaneously sharing the same file.

02:26:53.000 Wow.

02:26:54.000 I love the language that we use for the swarm of pirates is the biggest ever.

02:26:58.000 They all had eye patches and hooks. 0.99

02:27:00.000 They fucking beat their keyboard with the hook. 0.99

02:27:03.000 I actually never use that anymore. 0.99

02:27:04.000 I stopped it.

02:27:05.000 I used to do it.

02:27:06.000 Too scary.

02:27:07.000 Too dangerous. 1.00

02:27:08.000 You heard too many people just getting the fuck suit out of them for seating. 0.99

02:27:13.000 You have it up there and you're having people and then they fucking send software that infects your computer and now you don't even know that you're hacked. 0.98

02:27:23.000 It's just crazy the fees that some people, like some housewife, you owe us a million dollars.

02:27:28.000 What?

02:27:30.000 The nonsense behind it. 1.00

02:27:32.000 Ones and zeros, bitch. 1.00

02:27:33.000 I wonder if Game of Thrones does anything about this. 0.99

02:27:36.000 If they go after it, if they try to stop it.

02:27:39.000 Definitely.

02:27:41.000 During an August earnings call with investors, Time Warner CEO Jeff Bukes bragged about the show's massive piracy levels.

02:27:51.000 He says, if you go around the world, I think you're right.

02:27:54.000 Game of Thrones is the most pirated show in the world, he said.

02:27:57.000 Now that's better than an Emmy.

02:27:58.000 Huh.

02:27:59.000 Wow.

02:28:00.000 That's a good attitude.

02:28:02.000 That is a good attitude because, look, it's not going to stop people from watching it.

02:28:06.000 And it does expose your, if people like it, they will go pay money for the movie version.

02:28:10.000 They will pay money for the book that you get some kind of royalty on.

02:28:13.000 You know, like there's ways to make money.

02:28:15.000 Look at that.

02:28:16.000 HBO CEO doesn't care that you are sharing your HBO.

02:28:21.000 What's his password then?

02:28:22.000 I want his HBO go password.

02:28:24.000 We're in the business of creating addicts, he said.

02:28:27.000 Oh, that's a great attitude.

02:28:29.000 That's a great attitude.

02:28:30.000 And you know what?

02:28:31.000 If people can afford HBO, they're going to get HBO, right?

02:28:34.000 If you can afford it.

02:28:34.000 And if you can't, you're not going to get it.

02:28:36.000 So like this idea that you're stopping people, you're stealing money.

02:28:40.000 Are they really or are they simply getting something and enjoying it that they would have never been able to afford?

02:28:47.000 There's going to be a bunch of people that, yeah, they would have been forced to pay for it.

02:28:51.000 But I bet it evens itself out.

02:28:53.000 I bet in a long run, it kind of evens itself out one way or another.

02:28:57.000 Because people are going to get HBO. 0.99

02:29:00.000 The music business got fucked. 1.00

02:29:02.000 The music business, without a doubt, that shit disappeared. 1.00

02:29:05.000 They went the dumb way. 0.99

02:29:07.000 I swear this is the last time I mentioned digital money, but banks have an opportunity to not do the exact same thing that record companies did. 1.00

02:29:14.000 Where they're like, oh shit, we got to fight this tooth and nail. 0.86

02:29:16.000 All it leads to is better technology. 0.99

02:29:18.000 And the second version, you can't fight, whereas the first version, you can.

02:29:22.000 It doesn't stop human behavior.

02:29:23.000 It just makes you irrelevant.

02:29:25.000 Okay, if they brought you into a meeting, say like Bank of America says, David Seaman, we like the way you think.

02:29:29.000 We heard you on the Joe Rogan experience.

02:29:31.000 You've got some great ideas.

02:29:32.000 What should we do?

02:29:33.000 Digital, you know, I don't even have email.

02:29:36.000 You know, you got like me, you know, I like to go duck hunting on the weekends.

02:29:36.000 Okay.

02:29:40.000 What should I do?

02:29:41.000 It's very simple.

02:29:42.000 If somebody called me in for a meeting like that, it all comes down to game theory, and it's like we have this thing in the middle of the table that everybody wants and that the earliest adopters would benefit from. 0.96

02:29:54.000 So, you as Bank of America or you as Chase, you want to be the first one to adopt this because you're going to gain so much market share so fast that it's going to fuck all your competitors.

02:30:04.000 And people right now are desperate for a Bitcoin service they can trust. 0.96

02:30:08.000 And as shitty as these banks are, the Bank of America brand name has a lot more trust than that guy, Karpalis, right?

02:30:15.000 So, like, between those two organizations, who would I prefer to have my Bitcoin with? 0.95

02:30:19.000 Or rather, who would I prefer to buy it with?

02:30:22.000 Definitely the bank that's down the street and that I know has, you know, whatever market cap they have.

02:30:27.000 They have a lot of money and I know they're not going under tomorrow.

02:30:30.000 So I would say ignore all the political rabble rousing and all the bold predictions people like me are making, which will probably not come true.

02:30:39.000 And instead, look at this as just a better technology.

02:30:42.000 And you as a bank, you want to implement better technologies because it means lower fraud, less expense, more possibility for profit and innovation. 0.98

02:30:49.000 Go fucking do it and do it before Chase does it. 1.00

02:30:52.000 That's a really good piece of advice right there. 1.00

02:30:55.000 I like to rephrase that too.

02:30:58.000 You've built up a name.

02:30:59.000 There's a lot of trust in your name and you can monopolize this business.

02:31:02.000 Like this is what people want now.

02:31:03.000 Like you didn't decide it and maybe it's to your short-term disadvantage, but people want something and that's a good thing.

02:31:09.000 It's almost like you remember the social network where the one guy wanted him to put ads all over the site and he's like, no, like we don't know what this is, but we know it's cool right now.

02:31:17.000 And banks have not done anything cool in a very long time.

02:31:20.000 And the young people are really disenfranchised.

02:31:22.000 I hate most banks.

02:31:24.000 And it's because they've been so bad and they just do a bad job with what they do.

02:31:27.000 If you modernize a little bit, you might get the 20 and 30 somethings to put their money back in your bank.

02:31:32.000 You might make a lot of money.

02:31:33.000 That's a really good point, man.

02:31:35.000 It's a really good point.

02:31:36.000 And it's also about addressing the inevitability of what's going on. 0.99

02:31:40.000 But they would look at it in terms of maybe they have their finger on the trigger of that, but they don't want to press it too soon and fuck themselves. 0.89

02:31:47.000 It's like when you heard that R.J. Reynolds had the patents for several different strains of marijuana and they had labels printed up ready to go. 0.97

02:31:56.000 That was always one of those urban myths.

02:31:58.000 But the idea was that they don't want to come out with it too soon because if marijuana does become legal, they want to be able to jump on it and be able to sell gold.

02:32:09.000 That's weakness right there because we never control when things happen, but we control how we respond.

02:32:14.000 And I think Amazon is run by a brilliant guy, and I think their failure to accept Bitcoin is one of their first really big fuck-ups because Overstock is a big company too, and they're going to get a lot bigger because now there's that loyalty there.

02:32:26.000 Before I didn't care about Overstock at all, I would never mention them on a show like yours. 0.98

02:32:30.000 Overstock, it's like some bullshit e-commerce site. 0.98

02:32:32.000 Overstream is Overstock. 1.00

02:32:33.000 It's an e-commerce site.

02:32:34.000 And up until recently, I would not care at all.

02:32:36.000 I'm like, who cares about this second-tier e-commerce site?

02:32:39.000 But now to me, they're like the new Amazon because they get it.

02:32:41.000 And so I can see them gaining what Amazon would have if they had jumped in.

02:32:46.000 What is the difference?

02:32:48.000 I'm not aware of Overstock.

02:32:50.000 For you?

02:32:51.000 Do you know what it is, Brian?

02:32:52.000 What?

02:32:52.000 Overstock.

02:32:53.000 The big O. What is it?

02:32:55.000 It's pretty much what is Overstock?

02:32:57.000 Yeah.

02:32:58.000 It's pretty much where they take older stuff where they have too much iPads, right?

02:33:02.000 They bought too many iPads.

02:33:03.000 There's a new iPad about to come out.

02:33:05.000 So Overstock will buy all those old iPads for a cheaper price, you know, because there's too much stock.

02:33:11.000 Like it's not selling.

02:33:12.000 Oh, I see.

02:33:12.000 So it's kind of like Ross for electronics.

02:33:14.000 Do you get anything new there?

02:33:16.000 Yeah, you can get new stuff also, but a lot of it, I mean, at least the original, how it started off was always like too much stuff at that time.

02:33:24.000 I think that was the way that they started and took off, was that they offered cheaper stuff because it was literally overstocked.

02:33:29.000 But now you can get pretty much anything.

02:33:31.000 So what's the difference between their model of business and Amazon's?

02:33:35.000 Do you think their model of business is superior?

02:33:38.000 I just think the CEO is able to look into the future better than what Amazon is doing because Amazon is playing it safe.

02:33:44.000 And if you're that kind of company, you can't afford to play it safe.

02:33:47.000 And that's one of the reasons why Google is doing so well is they go like, we'll spend a lot of money on crazy stuff that will not work out.

02:33:54.000 And that's okay because one of those crazy things might be our next major revenue stream.

02:33:58.000 And that's happened several times.

02:33:59.000 You know, Gmail started as, we're just going to offer free email and see where it goes.

02:34:03.000 Now it's a huge source of revenue.

02:34:04.000 Right, but you give an example.

02:34:05.000 I don't understand what you're saying.

02:34:07.000 Like, how are they doing it smarter?

02:34:11.000 What is Amazon doing there where they're playing it safe? 0.95

02:34:13.000 What are they doing?

02:34:14.000 Overstock accepts Bitcoin.

02:34:16.000 Oh, and so Amazon's CEO just said that the reason why he doesn't do Bitcoin is there's not enough need for it.

02:34:23.000 And I guess incorporating Bitcoin into it is probably going to cost a lot of money.

02:34:28.000 It's probably this big deal, but he's saying there's not enough demand for it.

02:34:31.000 Well, we're going to talk to our pal Alexis.

02:34:38.000 No, not Ohenyan.

02:34:39.000 Andreas.

02:34:40.000 Andreas.

02:34:41.000 Andreas Antonopoulos next week on the 22nd.

02:34:45.000 He is a true Bitcoin expert.

02:34:46.000 I'm not an expert.

02:34:47.000 I'm just somebody who likes it.

02:34:49.000 Well, Antonopoulos is the Bitcoin Jesus.

02:34:49.000 Like it.

02:34:53.000 He gets all of his money from Bitcoin.

02:34:55.000 He doesn't take money anymore.

02:34:57.000 He gets paid in Bitcoin.

02:34:58.000 He does all of exchanges in Bitcoins.

02:35:00.000 He buys food in Bitcoins.

02:35:01.000 I don't know how he does that. 1.00

02:35:02.000 Yeah, I don't do that shit. 0.99

02:35:03.000 When I'm out on a date, I'm out like, can I print out a paper wallet and then we'll transact? 0.99

02:35:08.000 I just pay with the credit card done.

02:35:10.000 I can only eat at Overstocks Deli.

02:35:12.000 Yeah, you don't want to let a chick think you're weird.

02:35:14.000 Yeah.

02:35:15.000 Like that would be like the deal breaker.

02:35:17.000 He tried to pay in Bitcoin.

02:35:18.000 Although, I got to say, women, I want to give a shout out to women in LA. 0.95

02:35:22.000 I want to give a shout out to all the ladies. 1.00

02:35:24.000 What, what?

02:35:25.000 All the ladies out there, especially in LA, keeping your toes pretty. 1.00

02:35:29.000 They're like the polar opposite of the guy on Pawn Stars.

02:35:32.000 I was thinking about this.

02:35:33.000 That guy's like, best I can do is 20 bucks.

02:35:35.000 In LA, and again, this is not like, I haven't sampled the whole population, but they're like, I don't know you all that well. 0.99

02:35:43.000 Best I can do is a blowjob and sex on the second date. 0.99

02:35:45.000 And you're like, really? 1.00

02:35:46.000 Is it that good?

02:35:48.000 Women out here are much nicer than the East Coast. 1.00

02:35:50.000 Really?

02:35:52.000 When I say the East Coast, I'm talking about South Florida.

02:35:54.000 There's a lot of difficult women in South Florida. 1.00

02:35:57.000 Difficult?

02:35:58.000 Just not friendly.

02:36:00.000 And I've had Puerto Ricans, man.

02:36:03.000 I've had this conversation with friends of mine who still live on the East Coast, and they're like, you don't, like, dude, you're just dealing with superficial chicks, and you think they're friendly.

02:36:10.000 I'm like, I like the superficiality.

02:36:13.000 What's wrong with manners? 1.00

02:36:14.000 What's wrong with giving me your phone number and saying, yeah, I'd love to go out next week instead of like, fuck you. 1.00

02:36:19.000 is that what you got in Florida? 1.00

02:36:20.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:36:21.000 You get really, you don't know if an interaction is going to turn out well or if it's going to be like the spider video. 1.00

02:36:27.000 That's what you get in Miami is there's something about the culture there where it's like kind of fun to shoot down guys.

02:36:33.000 And here, like, everybody just treats people like people.

02:36:35.000 And I like that.

02:36:36.000 Oh, it's one of those things.

02:36:37.000 Yeah.

02:36:38.000 Yeah, the fun shooting down guys thing.

02:36:40.000 Like this, there's a sport and stuff.

02:36:42.000 There is a thrill to it. 1.00

02:36:43.000 They get all dressed up and you're like horny as fuck and they just shoot you down in front of everybody. 0.99

02:36:47.000 And you don't see that happening as much out here. 0.99

02:36:49.000 And I think maybe it's just the culture.

02:36:51.000 Maybe it's the weed.

02:36:52.000 I don't know what it is. 0.99

02:36:53.000 Maybe it's a reflection of David Seaman getting a little bit of internet celebrity, getting some pussy, and starting to judge a patch of dirt differently. 1.00

02:37:01.000 Fucking California's where it's at. 1.00

02:37:03.000 People are blowing me. 1.00

02:37:04.000 Back in Florida, they're just angry, walk away hot and screaming at me.

02:37:09.000 But now, look at you.

02:37:10.000 That was an intense shout-out.

02:37:12.000 It was an intense shout-out.

02:37:13.000 I want to give a shout-out to Joe's cat because he has the coolest eyes.

02:37:15.000 Joe's cat.

02:37:17.000 Is that your cat?

02:37:19.000 That's Prince Oliver.

02:37:20.000 What is that, a Siamese or something? 0.83

02:37:22.000 No, he's a ragdoll. 1.00

02:37:23.000 A ragdoll cat is a, they're like real sweet. 0.89

02:37:23.000 Ragdoll. 0.89

02:37:27.000 Like, you pick them up, they go limp.

02:37:29.000 They kind of go ragdoll on you. 1.00

02:37:31.000 That's the idea behind the name, I think.

02:37:33.000 He's awesome.

02:37:34.000 He's a cool cat.

02:37:35.000 It's so cool.

02:37:36.000 Yeah, well, I started letting him outside recently.

02:37:38.000 I used to worry about him because there's hawks in the neighborhood and owls.

02:37:41.000 Owls are a big one, especially at night. 0.98

02:37:43.000 Owls kill cats all the time. 0.98

02:37:45.000 And you really have to watch it because there's an owl that lives in my neighborhood, and he's fucking huge. 0.98

02:37:51.000 It's really big. 0.96

02:37:52.000 I mean, I'm not joking.

02:37:52.000 It's the body of it is like that big.

02:37:55.000 Apply your hunting skills and get rid of that threat.

02:37:57.000 No, you can't do that.

02:37:59.000 No, you shouldn't do that.

02:38:00.000 You can't do that.

02:38:01.000 Owls are really necessary. 1.00

02:38:03.000 They keep the rat population down.

02:38:05.000 Plus, if you kill an owl, the Illuminati will probably come after you because of Mollock.

02:38:10.000 I was in Bohemian Grove.

02:38:11.000 I saw Mollock.

02:38:13.000 Here's the thing about Bohemian Grove, not knowing much about it, but if you're a billionaire, there are very few people that you can relate to who aren't immediately like, here's my job resume.

02:38:22.000 What can you do for me?

02:38:23.000 It's a very weird situation to be in.

02:38:25.000 So you don't want people scamming you, and you want to talk business, and you want to also relax. 0.96

02:38:31.000 Aren't you going to meet somewhere and talk some shit out in a non-public place? 0.99

02:38:35.000 Yeah, with an owl god mask on and a fucking dark road. 1.00

02:38:39.000 Maybe you also have a dog. 0.99

02:38:41.000 Maybe you have a pet owl?

02:38:42.000 I don't know.

02:38:43.000 How do you have a pet owl?

02:38:44.000 It's weird.

02:38:45.000 Have an owl as a pet?

02:38:46.000 Yeah.

02:38:46.000 I don't know.

02:38:47.000 I don't know, man. 1.00

02:38:48.000 The owl that's in my neighborhood, no bullshit, twice as big as that goddamn thing. 1.00

02:38:52.000 It's huge. 1.00

02:38:53.000 It sat on my back fence the other day, and I looked at it.

02:38:56.000 I was like, wow.

02:38:57.000 It's a surveillance device.

02:38:58.000 It probably weighs 30 pounds. 0.99

02:39:00.000 It's fucking huge. 0.99

02:39:01.000 And I saw one of them with a flaw. 1.00

02:39:03.000 It was flying with a rabbit in its claws. 1.00

02:39:06.000 I was like, I was watching some prehistoric shit. 0.99

02:39:09.000 It was really weird. 0.99

02:39:10.000 Flying, holding onto a rabbit.

02:39:12.000 Oh, really?

02:39:15.000 Give a hoot. 1.00

02:39:16.000 Don't pollut.

02:39:18.000 Birds are weird because they're definitely smart.

02:39:21.000 They're lizards.

02:39:22.000 But yeah, they lack any kind of relatability.

02:39:25.000 Like a dog, it understands you, you understand it.

02:39:28.000 A bird, you're like, what is this thing thinking?

02:39:30.000 But you know it's smart.

02:39:31.000 Yeah, they have intelligence.

02:39:33.000 Well, crows have unbelievable intelligence.

02:39:36.000 I know you've seen some of those videos where crows problem solve and use tools and not just use tools, but use multiple step tools, like one tool to get to another tool.

02:39:46.000 They use that tool to get to a third tool, then use that tool to get to meet.

02:39:49.000 I mean, it's incredible.

02:39:51.000 Have you seen any of these videos?

02:39:52.000 No.

02:39:53.000 You have to watch one. 0.99

02:39:54.000 It'll fucking blow you away. 0.97

02:39:56.000 Can we get, we can't get pulled from YouTube by using a YouTube clip, right? 0.97

02:40:00.000 That we can't get.

02:40:01.000 Can we?

02:40:02.000 Okay. 1.00

02:40:03.000 Fuck, motherfuckers pulling us off of YouTube left and right. 1.00

02:40:07.000 See if you can find just one clip on crow intelligence. 1.00

02:40:09.000 We've had this on the podcast before, but it's so fascinating. 1.00

02:40:12.000 I watch that shit over and over again. 1.00

02:40:14.000 Then we'll get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:40:17.000 Yeah. 0.70

02:40:17.000 Find any? 0.70

02:40:20.000 Crow intelligence using problem solving tools. 1.00

02:40:23.000 Just Google all that shit. 1.00

02:40:27.000 Crows are apparently as smart, if not smarter, than chimpanzees. 1.00

02:40:31.000 How is that possible?

02:40:31.000 It has such a small brain compared to the chimp rate.

02:40:34.000 I don't know.

02:40:35.000 Remember you, what, for 12 years?

02:40:37.000 Your face or something? 1.00

02:40:38.000 Something stupid. 1.00

02:40:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:39.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:40:40.000 But watch this.

02:40:41.000 Here, give it some volume.

02:40:42.000 All right.

02:40:44.000 Not really much volume.

02:40:52.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:40:53.000 What are you doing?

02:40:53.000 I don't know.

02:40:56.000 This is not on, but it is.

02:40:57.000 There is volume.

02:41:01.000 This is the crow, so it takes this one twig and then uses this second twig to go over to this thing and pull this meat towards it.

02:41:14.000 Wow.

02:41:14.000 And then eats it.

02:41:15.000 That's definitely like monkey intelligence.

02:41:18.000 So it took one twig to get to a second twig and then took that second twig and went, I mean, it couldn't reach the first twig without using, or the second twig without using the first twig.

02:41:28.000 It's unbelievable.

02:41:29.000 Thinking ahead, use of tools.

02:41:31.000 Yeah, that's just two.

02:41:32.000 There's one where it shows three different steps.

02:41:34.000 Like, uses one tool to get to a second tool to get to a second tool.

02:41:37.000 Too bad they're so ugly or people would have them as pets.

02:41:40.000 Well, I don't think they would tolerate you. 0.84

02:41:41.000 I don't think so.

02:41:42.000 I think they're wild.

02:41:43.000 I think there's certain animals you're just not going to figure out.

02:41:46.000 Like, you know, they tried to tame zebras at one point in time. 0.99

02:41:49.000 All those assholes that moved to the Congo and built the states and tried to fucking enslave people and run things in Africa, and it never worked. 0.99

02:41:57.000 One of the things they try to do is they try to domesticate zebras. 1.00

02:42:00.000 You can't do it.

02:42:02.000 Why can't you domesticate a zebra? 1.00

02:42:03.000 They won't fucking tolerate. 0.99

02:42:04.000 So here's a five-step. 0.99

02:42:06.000 Watch.

02:42:06.000 Look at this.

02:42:07.000 It takes, I mean, this is incredible.

02:42:08.000 It takes one tool, and then it goes over and can't get this tool.

02:42:12.000 It's trying real hard to get this tool. 0.98

02:42:14.000 He goes, hmm, let me see what the fuck we do here. 0.98

02:42:18.000 He gets the second tool. 0.99

02:42:20.000 Uses that tool to go and tries to get the meat.

02:42:20.000 Okay.

02:42:24.000 Can't do it.

02:42:25.000 Tries to get the third tool.

02:42:26.000 So uses this one to get to this one.

02:42:29.000 Now he's got another tool. 0.99

02:42:30.000 Then takes that fucking tool, spins it around. 0.99

02:42:34.000 So the other part, like the part that has the little hook on the end of it, he's like trying to get the meat, can't get it. 0.99

02:42:43.000 Alrighty.

02:42:44.000 And There he goes.

02:42:46.000 That is true intelligence.

02:42:47.000 That's smarter than like 90% of the people I've dealt with at the DMV.

02:42:50.000 Yeah, it's all of the people at the DMV.

02:42:52.000 How about that?

02:42:52.000 I said it.

02:42:54.000 See if your registration gets renewed on time.

02:42:56.000 Yeah, you put those people in that room with that crow. 1.00

02:42:59.000 That crow would figure that shit out quicker. 1.00

02:43:02.000 Yeah, I don't know how intelligence works. 1.00

02:43:04.000 And obviously they don't have a language. 0.99

02:43:06.000 So maybe they're not as hampered by a lot of concepts and insecurities and a lot of weird shit that the human brain harbors. 0.99

02:43:13.000 Like maybe a lot of what runs us is just nonsense and hooey. 0.78

02:43:17.000 How much time has everybody spent thinking about things that have like not come to pass?

02:43:22.000 Like fears that are just a waste of energy? 0.61

02:43:25.000 Probably a fuckload, right?

02:43:28.000 I'm just thinking about my own life and like it's always the thing that you're not thinking about that ends up getting you. 0.96

02:43:28.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:43:33.000 Like an asteroid.

02:43:34.000 Yeah, like an asteroid.

02:43:35.000 It's like, oh, you didn't prepare for that one at all.

02:43:36.000 Or Fukushima.

02:43:37.000 Nobody was preparing for that.

02:43:40.000 Oh, David.

02:43:40.000 More doom.

02:43:41.000 We can't end on doom and gloom.

02:43:42.000 Cheryl Crow is pretty smart. 1.00

02:43:45.000 Cheryl Crow is probably not as smart as a crow. 1.00

02:43:49.000 As far as problem solving, if you got Cheryl Crowe and the Crow and neither one of them had any idea what was going on, that you made them do those two things.

02:43:59.000 We can end on a positive note.

02:44:00.000 I think despite the minor negative stuff, this has been really positive.

02:44:05.000 The whole financial system is going to change in the next five years.

02:44:07.000 And it's going to swing in a direction where individuals have more power and banks have less.

02:44:12.000 I think that's cool.

02:44:13.000 I think that's really cool, actually.

02:44:15.000 And I talked to Stefan Molyneux earlier this week, and I asked him, I was like, am I deluded by telling people this is going to change everything?

02:44:22.000 He's like, no, I think that it's going to change a lot of stuff.

02:44:24.000 And he was telling me about how it's going to change politics in a big way because you can't get bribes with Bitcoin, basically.

02:44:31.000 Banks can't bribe you.

02:44:33.000 You can't bribe them back by propping them up the next time they need a bailout.

02:44:38.000 This whole thinking of a bank just spends money and pretty much makes risky bets, some derivatives and stuff.

02:44:44.000 And then when those bets go south, they get a bailout from the government and get taxpayer money.

02:44:51.000 That craziness will go away.

02:44:52.000 It's just going to be, oh, how many Bitcoins do you have?

02:44:54.000 Cool.

02:44:54.000 Oh, okay, I see.

02:44:55.000 So it's good.

02:44:56.000 It actually goes back to ancient times where in places like Mesopotamia, when merchants would do business, they didn't need a Chaser Bank of America.

02:45:05.000 They just had merchant ledgers.

02:45:06.000 Like, oh, I see I owe you 15 cattle.

02:45:09.000 And you decide on a standard and you go with that.

02:45:09.000 Very good.

02:45:12.000 And the whole world might do that now.

02:45:13.000 And it's happening already.

02:45:14.000 When I say it might happen, there's a reason why Bitcoin's at $500 each.

02:45:18.000 And that's because in China, where they have a radically different government from ours, far more oppressive, they don't speak the same language.

02:45:24.000 They don't have the same culture. 0.76

02:45:25.000 They're interested in the same currency.

02:45:27.000 And that's really cool.

02:45:28.000 And Bitcoin, is it more popular in any parts of the world besides America?

02:45:32.000 It's more popular in China, I believe.

02:45:34.000 I believe most of the, I might be wrong, but I think most of the trading volume right now is in China.

02:45:38.000 But definitely most of the startups are in Silicon Valley.

02:45:41.000 I wonder what steps, we'll ask Antonopoulos next week, what steps they've taken to ensure that the same jackals that have gotten a hold of the financial system and twisted it into this weird cryptic world of derivatives and unexplainable things, if they've done anything to prevent that from happening to things like Bitcoin.

02:46:03.000 I'm sure if there's a way to corrupt it or make it less fun, they will do that.

02:46:09.000 Or they will try for their own profit.

02:46:12.000 All right, man.

02:46:12.000 Listen, always fun talking to you.

02:46:14.000 Definitely.

02:46:15.000 We've got to do this more often. 0.97

02:46:16.000 It's always cool shit to talk about. 0.97

02:46:18.000 Never run out. 0.99

02:46:19.000 And again, we're at a strange time in life.

02:46:23.000 We're right there at the peak of the weirdest wave the world is.

02:46:27.000 It's hard to be negative because the technology thing, like, yeah, it's bad that the NSA is collecting all our stuff.

02:46:32.000 And I think that that system is going to eat itself over time.

02:46:35.000 Like, we have the FBI spying on the CIA and the NSA, or rather the CIA, so I fucked that up.

02:46:41.000 We have the FBI spying on the CIA and the CIA is spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee that's supposed to be overseeing the CIA.

02:46:48.000 So all these people are spying on each other, stepping on each other's toes.

02:46:52.000 And I think what eventually is going to happen is it's not people like you and me who will demand reform. 0.99

02:46:56.000 It's people in the Senate who are like, I don't want my shit spied on anymore. 0.98

02:46:59.000 This is not good. 0.99

02:47:00.000 And they're all going to agree, like, we need some kind of rollback.

02:47:03.000 That'll happen.

02:47:03.000 And then we still have all this amazing technology.

02:47:06.000 It's moving faster than we can even think about.

02:47:08.000 And it's mostly good.

02:47:10.000 Hear here, David Seaman.

02:47:11.000 Hear here.

02:47:12.000 D underscore Seaman on Twitter.

02:47:15.000 Your podcast?

02:47:17.000 The David Seaman hour.

02:47:18.000 And it's available.

02:47:19.000 It's on iTunes and Stitcher.

02:47:21.000 Is there a website?

02:47:22.000 DavidSeaman.com.

02:47:24.000 And when you say iTunes and Stitcher, is it also available as an MP3?

02:47:27.000 Can they just download it if they have like a Zoom?

02:47:30.000 If they want to go to davidseman.com, they can get the link to the MP3.

02:47:34.000 Yes!

02:47:35.000 That's it, ladies and gentlemen.

02:47:36.000 That's it for this week. 0.96

02:47:37.000 I'll see you fucking Savages in Orlando this Thursday night with Joey Coco Diaz. 0.98

02:47:42.000 And I'll see you guys tonight at the Ice House in Pasadena with Ari Shafir, Duncan Trussell, and young Tony Hinchcliffe. 0.97

02:47:50.000 Thank you to Dollar Shave. 0.98

02:47:52.000 Go to the Dollar Shave Club, bitches. 1.00

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02:48:23.000 Thanks also to...

02:48:26.000 Is Rogan forward slash Rogan?

02:48:28.000 I want to give you the wrong URL.

02:48:29.000 Yeah, that's it.

02:48:30.000 Thanks also to Ting.

02:48:33.000 Go to rogan.ting.com to get some awesome cell phone service and 25 bucks off of your first device.

02:48:40.000 That's rogan.ting.com.

02:48:43.000 Thanks also to onit.com.

02:48:45.000 Go to O-N-N-I-T, use the code word Rogan and save 10% off any and all supplements.

02:48:53.000 Next week, lots of good podcast material going on.

02:48:58.000 As I said, Andreas Antonopoulos is coming.

02:49:01.000 Ace Freely is going to be here next week.

02:49:03.000 I had to move David Tell to the 29th.

02:49:05.000 David Tell is going to be on Tuesday, the 29th. 0.72

02:49:08.000 I got a lot of shit happening next week, and we're going to have some fun.

02:49:13.000 Also coming onto the podcast very soon is Steve Maxwell, my friend, the strength and conditioning coach. 0.97

02:49:22.000 He's a fascinating guy.

02:49:23.000 Really, really interesting dude with a lot of knowledge.

02:49:25.000 He'll be on the 28th.

02:49:27.000 Got a lot of stuff happening.

02:49:28.000 Greg Fitzsimmons on May 1st. 0.99

02:49:30.000 Lots of shit happening. 0.99

02:49:32.000 All right. 0.99

02:49:32.000 We'll see you people later, soon, someday in the future. 0.99

02:49:37.000 Until then, keep your shit together, bitches. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 16, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #487 - David Seaman

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