The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #486 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

00:00:00.000 The tuna.

00:00:00.000 He keeps getting bigger.

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00:00:16.000 Jesus Christ.

00:00:16.000 No, I will though.

00:00:17.000 I will.

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00:04:49.000 Onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T. Have you used any of the Onnit shit? 0.99

00:04:53.000 Have we sent you anything? 0.99

00:04:54.000 Dude, I don't have any primal bells.

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00:05:26.000 I gotta be honest, I feel like I'm in the Truman Show right now. 0.99

00:05:28.000 Why's that?

00:05:29.000 Have you ever seen that with Jim Carrey?

00:05:30.000 Yeah.

00:05:30.000 With the product placement?

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00:05:41.000 Oh, right.

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00:05:43.000 Yeah, that's the one where he didn't know.

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00:05:50.000 Well, that was like he didn't know, right?

00:05:52.000 Yeah, he had no idea of that show.

00:05:53.000 He was the show, yeah.

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00:05:56.000 I didn't see that. 1.00

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00:05:59.000 You remember that Matthew McConaughey show? 0.99

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00:06:07.000 It was called...

00:06:08.000 What the hell was it called?

00:06:10.000 What was it called?

00:06:10.000 Ed TV. Ed TV. Ed TV. I mean, that's standard operational procedure on reality shows now.

00:06:17.000 Those are real.

00:06:18.000 And I watch every one of them. 1.00

00:06:19.000 This was before any of that shit. 1.00

00:06:20.000 Tell them your favorite show. 0.99

00:06:22.000 I mean, I don't even know where to begin.

00:06:24.000 I love Naked and Afraid.

00:06:26.000 Let me just get through this Onnit thing real quick.

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00:06:32.000 Do you want to hook up with the Bulletproof coffee?

00:06:34.000 Because I make it myself.

00:06:35.000 You can make it yourself.

00:06:36.000 No, that's what I've been doing.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 What do you mean, like, hook up with what?

00:06:40.000 With the kind of coffee?

00:06:41.000 Yes.

00:06:42.000 See, we found out.

00:06:44.000 This is, uh, we actually ran some cast on it.

00:06:45.000 You're talking about the fungus? 0.99

00:06:46.000 And it came out some bullshit? 1.00

00:06:48.000 Yeah, well, this is the deal. 1.00

00:06:49.000 Alright, I don't know...

00:06:52.000 I don't want to speculate anybody's intentions.

00:06:54.000 So what I'll just tell you is the absolute facts.

00:06:57.000 There have been cases where mycotoxins became an issue with coffee.

00:07:02.000 Those cases, most of them have been resolved by going through these mycotoxin issues and then rigorous testing.

00:07:09.000 And then figuring out ways to not...

00:07:13.000 Provide an environment where mycotoxins can flourish.

00:07:16.000 And Homeboy heard that and took it and ran with it.

00:07:19.000 Exactly.

00:07:19.000 Good for you.

00:07:19.000 Here's the issue.

00:07:20.000 He brought me in, unfortunately.

00:07:23.000 He brought me in, unfortunately, because he was saying it on my podcast and I repeated it without any research.

00:07:29.000 It used to be an issue, and it can be an issue still if someone is not preparing coffee correctly.

00:07:36.000 But it's like when you buy really good coffee, like there's a company called Rusty's Hawaiian, delicious, delicious coffee.

00:07:43.000 Their bags are raided by like coffee connoisseurs where professional coffee graters, they will taste the coffee and check out various beans and Different roasts, and then they grade it.

00:07:55.000 But they also test it for mycotoxins. 0.99

00:07:57.000 Like if you have fungus in your fucking coffee, you get a really low score. 0.99

00:08:01.000 That's frowned upon. 1.00

00:08:02.000 I don't want fungus on my roast.

00:08:04.000 They figured out a long time ago, first of all, this is where it gets really weird, that coffee was originally established in Ethiopia, which is a dry climate.

00:08:12.000 And all these mycotoxin issues happened when they started moving them out of Ethiopia.

00:08:17.000 Put them in other places where there's moisture.

00:08:19.000 Exactly.

00:08:19.000 Growing them in different places.

00:08:21.000 It's like California wines have very few mycotoxins, especially okra toxin A, which is the big one, because it's so dry.

00:08:28.000 So they actually have very, very little of that, very little issues with that at all.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting?

00:08:33.000 And corn as well.

00:08:34.000 Corn, you know, there's a bunch of different mycotoxins.

00:08:39.000 That's the point.

00:08:40.000 If you buy really good coffee, which is mostly what you buy, most likely you're not going to have any issues whatsoever.

00:08:47.000 If you do have issues, according to Dr. Rhonda Patrick, she was saying that even above-threshold doses of these mycotoxins might even provide a beneficial reaction by your body.

00:08:59.000 That your body reacting to these mycotoxins that aren't necessarily really bad for you in small doses, that your body might actually energize its immune system in response.

00:09:09.000 So it might have some sort of a corresponding positive effect.

00:09:12.000 This is obviously layman's terms. 0.83

00:09:13.000 I'm a retard. 0.71

00:09:14.000 I don't really even know what I just said. 0.79

00:09:15.000 But according to her, these things make sense.

00:09:18.000 So, what I'm saying is, you can make that style of coffee.

00:09:22.000 Like, coffee with grass-fed butter and MCT oil.

00:09:24.000 You can make that with almost any good coffee.

00:09:26.000 And you're blending it?

00:09:27.000 Yes.

00:09:28.000 The stuff that you're drinking right here is that.

00:09:29.000 Delicious.

00:09:30.000 I don't ever blend mine.

00:09:31.000 I just black coffee, scoop of butter.

00:09:33.000 That's cool, too.

00:09:34.000 MCT and stir it.

00:09:35.000 That's fine, too.

00:09:36.000 It's a little more chunky.

00:09:37.000 It's a little stevia.

00:09:37.000 Yeah.

00:09:38.000 I'm used to the packets, though.

00:09:40.000 This bottle, I put a little too much in.

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 Pure Kool-Aid.

00:09:43.000 Pure Kool-Aid.

00:09:44.000 You'll jack you.

00:09:44.000 You only want, like, a mist of the stevia.

00:09:47.000 What is stevia?

00:09:47.000 Yeah.

00:09:48.000 It's a plant extract.

00:09:49.000 Zero sugar.

00:09:50.000 You don't have to worry about it.

00:09:51.000 No grams of sugar.

00:09:52.000 Doesn't change your blood sugar levels?

00:09:53.000 No.

00:09:53.000 Not at all.

00:09:54.000 I mean, it's probably like all things.

00:09:56.000 Not great if you ate it all day.

00:09:58.000 Even plants.

00:09:59.000 I eat it all day.

00:10:00.000 I feel great.

00:10:01.000 Plants are toxic.

00:10:02.000 Plants create a lot of their own diet.

00:10:04.000 That's one of the ways they keep people from eating them.

00:10:06.000 Discourage predation.

00:10:07.000 When people are juicing lots and lots of leafy greens.

00:10:10.000 I also do that.

00:10:12.000 Forget about the rest of the commercial.

00:10:13.000 Let's just keep going.

00:10:14.000 We don't have to play music. 1.00

00:10:15.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:10:16.000 I like throwing one out like that. 1.00

00:10:18.000 Why not?

00:10:19.000 It's over.

00:10:19.000 On it.com.

00:10:20.000 Use the code word, Rogan.

00:10:20.000 Save some money.

00:10:22.000 So this is the point.

00:10:24.000 These toxins may or may not be an issue in some coffee today.

00:10:30.000 They were at one point in time.

00:10:32.000 Right.

00:10:51.000 Yeah, because all of the coffee in the world comes from Ethiopia originally.

00:10:56.000 My brother told me about this and was like, hey, you realize in 50 years coffee is going to be no longer?

00:11:01.000 Yeah.

00:11:02.000 I freaked out.

00:11:04.000 I started storing coffee.

00:11:06.000 It'll be in Latin America. 0.98

00:11:08.000 Yeah.

00:11:08.000 Costa Rica, right?

00:11:09.000 Yeah.

00:11:10.000 It doesn't also matter like...

00:11:12.000 When you roast the bean versus when you drink it.

00:11:14.000 That's another issue that people had with this upgraded coffee.

00:11:17.000 Although it's very successful.

00:11:20.000 It sells very well for whatever reasons.

00:11:23.000 So it's hard to keep on the shelf.

00:11:24.000 So it's constantly moving.

00:11:26.000 So you're getting fresh coffee when you're buying it.

00:11:28.000 Caveman Coffee roasts it when you order it.

00:11:31.000 That's Keith Jardine, right?

00:11:33.000 Yeah, that's Keith Jardine and Tate Fletcher.

00:11:34.000 And really good coffee.

00:11:36.000 And tested mycotoxin free.

00:11:38.000 100%.

00:11:38.000 They tested it.

00:11:39.000 They went through.

00:11:40.000 They're getting everything single source from a grower.

00:11:42.000 They know the guy.

00:11:43.000 The guy's family lives in South America.

00:11:46.000 And he lives in Albuquerque.

00:11:47.000 So they travel back and forth to the farm.

00:11:49.000 They know exactly where it comes from.

00:11:50.000 It's like as legit single source as you can get.

00:11:53.000 Keith Jardine's a badass.

00:11:55.000 He's a great.

00:11:56.000 Sweet.

00:11:56.000 Sweetie.

00:11:56.000 He's just a great guy.

00:11:58.000 And he was a hell of a fighter.

00:11:59.000 And he still wants to go at it again.

00:12:01.000 One more time, right?

00:12:02.000 One more time for Albuquerque.

00:12:03.000 You trained with him for a long time, right?

00:12:05.000 Long time, yeah.

00:12:05.000 Really good friend.

00:12:06.000 He's an awesome guy.

00:12:07.000 Just couldn't be a cooler guy.

00:12:08.000 And he's doing really well with this.

00:12:10.000 This caveman coffee company.

00:12:11.000 He's just...

00:12:12.000 They, you know, him and Tate are big coffee banana heads. 1.00

00:12:17.000 Tate never goes anywhere without a fucking container of coffee. 1.00

00:12:19.000 Really? 1.00

00:12:20.000 He carries a thermo.

00:12:21.000 He loves his coffee.

00:12:22.000 Loves it.

00:12:22.000 Always has.

00:12:23.000 Ever since I've known him.

00:12:23.000 I had a guy on my podcast.

00:12:25.000 What the hell?

00:12:26.000 I can't remember.

00:12:27.000 Sorry.

00:12:27.000 He wrote a book called What White People Know and What White People Do.

00:12:31.000 He started as a blog. 0.72

00:12:32.000 And he said one thing about white people, they are into their coffee, man.

00:12:36.000 Love it. 0.99

00:12:36.000 Like crazy. 0.99

00:12:38.000 I love it.

00:12:39.000 My coach, Tony Jeffries, was like, you're the only guy I know who drinks coffee in between rounds.

00:12:44.000 I'll get a big cup of coffee in between rounds.

00:12:47.000 You drink it in between rounds?

00:12:48.000 That's hilarious.

00:12:48.000 That's wild.

00:12:49.000 You know, Tito told me that coffee fucks with your cardio. 0.96

00:12:52.000 He said he doesn't take any caffeine. 0.99

00:12:54.000 He said he fucks with your cardio. 0.98

00:12:56.000 I've heard different. 0.99

00:12:57.000 I've heard different.

00:12:58.000 Now, if you're right, Faber says that I'm going to listen. 0.99

00:12:59.000 No shit, right? 0.99

00:13:00.000 If Tito Ortiz tells me that. 0.99

00:13:02.000 I was with Tito two days ago in a bar by accident in Lower East Side, and it was his cheat day, and he was drinking a Shirley Temple, like literally in this really girly glass.

00:13:13.000 So here's this giant dude drinking a very, very pink drink.

00:13:17.000 I was like, that's hilarious, man.

00:13:18.000 He had tremendous cardio.

00:13:20.000 He had good cardio.

00:13:21.000 But listen, if Tank Abbott's strength coach tells me not to drink caffeine, I'm not going to listen.

00:13:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:25.000 You know what I'm saying, Doug?

00:13:28.000 There's certain people you need to listen to.

00:13:30.000 Y'all do what works for you, man.

00:13:32.000 His cardio is insane.

00:13:34.000 Crazy.

00:13:35.000 Who was the fight where the guy got on his back within the first minute of the first round?

00:13:41.000 There was some crazy scramble.

00:13:43.000 Not McDonald, right?

00:13:44.000 I want to say Abel Trujillo, but that's obviously not him because Abel Trujillo is the badass welterweight.

00:13:50.000 That name is stuck in my head.

00:13:52.000 Let's just look it up.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:53.000 Yeah, the guy got right away, right?

00:13:55.000 And they're like, this is exactly where Uriah doesn't want to be.

00:13:57.000 It couldn't go anywhere.

00:13:58.000 He's so tough.

00:13:59.000 He's done it right, you know?

00:14:01.000 Did you see that Abel Trujillo-Jamie Varner fight?

00:14:04.000 Yes. 0.99

00:14:05.000 That was fucking insane. 1.00

00:14:07.000 What a crazy slugfest, slobber knocker. 1.00

00:14:11.000 Oh my god.

00:14:13.000 I don't know why I thought, why Abel Trujillo's name was coming into my mind.

00:14:17.000 I gotta pull up this dude's name to find out why that was.

00:14:20.000 Oh, Yuri Alcantara.

00:14:23.000 So it was just another cool name.

00:14:26.000 Yeah, Brian Callan, isn't it really?

00:14:28.000 It's too much of a...

00:14:29.000 But the pace that Uriah put on that Yuri Alcantara guy...

00:14:33.000 I wish I was a little guy.

00:14:35.000 If I was little, I mean, I feel like I should be a member of Team Alpha Male.

00:14:38.000 I love long distance running.

00:14:39.000 I love eating healthy.

00:14:41.000 I love dieting.

00:14:42.000 I want to be a small guy.

00:14:43.000 Well, you're very fit, too, for a heavyweight.

00:14:45.000 You have some pretty extreme endurance for a heavyweight.

00:14:49.000 Do you say that, like, what's going on today with a guy like Travis Brown or with guys like Jon Jones or yourself?

00:14:55.000 You're getting a lot of people that were athletes in other sports, that were high-level athletes and then transitioned over in the fighting.

00:15:03.000 So in the beginning, you're seeing they're learning.

00:15:06.000 They're really good athletes.

00:15:07.000 So they move quicker than most people.

00:15:09.000 They usually have a little bit more physical explosion and power than most people.

00:15:13.000 But then it takes them a while to get all the techniques down.

00:15:16.000 But now we're seeing a lot of those dudes.

00:15:20.000 OSP is another one.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, I wouldn't say a lot.

00:15:22.000 I think we're seeing a number of them starting to transition.

00:15:24.000 But the thing is, I've gone with tons of NFL guys, NBA guys.

00:15:30.000 When someone's trying to hit you in the face, that's why it takes so long, I think, for these athletes to adapt to fighting.

00:15:36.000 Because getting hit in the face, it's just not either you were born where you're like, yeah, this is cool, I can live with this, I can learn to get out of the way and put my life on the line.

00:15:46.000 And then usually when guys are that good of athletes, they're like, forget this.

00:15:50.000 Forget this, man.

00:15:51.000 Forget this.

00:15:52.000 Isn't it interesting?

00:15:53.000 I think you look at the UFC and guys are starting to come around, but people think it's going to be, you know, in 10 years we're going to have all these freak athletes.

00:16:00.000 You're not, man.

00:16:01.000 Because these freak athletes, it's very rare you get a freak athlete who's like, yeah, I want to go fight another killer in a steel cage.

00:16:08.000 That's a very interesting point.

00:16:10.000 It's a very interesting point when there's options too, right?

00:16:12.000 Especially when you're that good of an athlete.

00:16:14.000 And you're making way more money.

00:16:16.000 Well, not necessarily.

00:16:17.000 Not necessarily.

00:16:17.000 You know, it depends on what level you're fighting in the UFC. You know, I mean, if you're a guy...

00:16:21.000 People say about this all the time, like, oh, you guys don't get paid yet.

00:16:24.000 I make a great living, man.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, it's not true.

00:16:27.000 Well, you got NFL players signing...

00:16:29.000 First of all...

00:16:30.000 No, no, no.

00:16:30.000 Hold up.

00:16:31.000 You're talking about the exception.

00:16:33.000 I make more than a lot of...

00:16:35.000 Oh, do you?

00:16:36.000 Yes.

00:16:36.000 Well, here's what you have to understand.

00:16:38.000 When you look at pay, there's a pay that's listed as far as the purse that you get after a fight.

00:16:44.000 From the commission they list out, is what you're saying?

00:16:46.000 That doesn't take into account a lot of factors.

00:16:50.000 There's a lot of things that they want to remain private.

00:16:52.000 So you're not just getting paid that amount.

00:16:55.000 Some people are.

00:16:56.000 Some people are just getting paid that amount.

00:16:58.000 Guys you don't know that probably should be getting paid that amount.

00:17:01.000 But when a guy's selling tickets...

00:17:03.000 You know, someone is a big-name fighter.

00:17:05.000 There's a lot of factors in there.

00:17:07.000 But also, and then sponsorships and all that.

00:17:10.000 Well, incentives, pay-per-view, pieces of pay-per-view.

00:17:12.000 For sure.

00:17:12.000 Like, George St. Pierre was making $5 million a fight.

00:17:15.000 That's pretty good.

00:17:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:16.000 He's making a lot of fucking money. 1.00

00:17:17.000 And, you know, he's got sponsors. 0.99

00:17:19.000 He's got Gatorade, all this other stuff, all this other revenue coming in.

00:17:21.000 I mean, George St. Pierre made a fuckload of money fighting.

00:17:25.000 So, maybe he didn't make as much as Floyd Mayweather, but guess what?

00:17:29.000 Floyd Mayweather...

00:17:30.000 Yeah, Floyd Mayweather is, one, a bigger star, two, a better promoter. 1.00

00:17:36.000 He's a fucking... 0.98

00:17:37.000 At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what a guy... 1.00

00:17:39.000 Yeah, there's that.

00:17:40.000 Well, so is UFC now.

00:17:41.000 UFC's pretty worldwide now, but it doesn't...

00:17:43.000 There could be a spectacular fight in the UFC, a crazy epic fight that everybody wants to see that could do one and a half million, two million pay-per-view guys.

00:17:52.000 That's what Floyd Mayweather has done.

00:17:53.000 It is possible that that could happen.

00:17:55.000 When you think about before Floyd Mayweather...

00:17:57.000 It's hard to find a guy, since Oscar De La Hoya, maybe Manny Pacquiao, a guy who can do...

00:18:02.000 There's only a few of those guys.

00:18:03.000 Everybody wants to say, oh, in boxing they make so much more money.

00:18:06.000 No, there's about five of them.

00:18:09.000 You're talking about the exception.

00:18:10.000 People always refer to the exception.

00:18:13.000 Mayweather, Pacquiao are the exception.

00:18:16.000 If you watch Pacquiao's fight, this last fight with Bradley, look at the undercard. 0.99

00:18:21.000 It was pure shit. 1.00

00:18:24.000 It was horrible. 1.00

00:18:25.000 Those guys are scrapping.

00:18:27.000 I thought it was a good fight.

00:18:28.000 You thought the undercard was?

00:18:29.000 Or you thought Pacquiao Bradley was good?

00:18:31.000 Pacquiao Bradley was a good fight.

00:18:32.000 That was a really good fight.

00:18:32.000 But there were some good fights in the undercard.

00:18:33.000 It wasn't bad.

00:18:34.000 I enjoyed it.

00:18:35.000 Who was your favorite on the undercard?

00:18:38.000 I'd have to look at it.

00:18:39.000 Exactly.

00:18:40.000 That's my point.

00:18:41.000 That's my point.

00:18:42.000 That's the problem with boxing.

00:18:44.000 No one gives a flying hoot about the undercard. 0.99

00:18:47.000 No one gives a shit. 0.99

00:18:48.000 Because you don't know them. 0.97

00:18:50.000 These guys are super talented and they're not making any money.

00:18:53.000 Zero sponsors.

00:18:54.000 Okay, here it is. 0.99

00:18:56.000 At a certain point in time, there's only so many fucking room for so many fighters you can keep in your head. 0.98

00:19:02.000 But boxing? 0.99

00:19:03.000 Or anything in your head.

00:19:03.000 But boxing?

00:19:04.000 I mean, at heavyweight especially.

00:19:08.000 Listen, Klitschko could probably deliver pizza next door and no one's going to ask for an autograph.

00:19:12.000 Isn't that weird?

00:19:13.000 That's crazy, right?

00:19:14.000 He was so dominant.

00:19:15.000 That's your heavyweight champ. 0.99

00:19:17.000 No one gives a shit. 0.99

00:19:18.000 That's so weird. 0.98

00:19:18.000 People were tweeting about the undercard. 0.98

00:19:21.000 They were tweeting being defensive about the quality of the undercard.

00:19:31.000 Maybe you're right. 0.99

00:19:32.000 I just tuned in and I may or may not have been high as fuck. 0.99

00:19:36.000 So I had a good time. 0.97

00:19:37.000 Why did boxing fall by the wayside?

00:19:40.000 It isn't really.

00:19:42.000 It hasn't.

00:19:42.000 That's a misconception.

00:19:44.000 It hasn't fallen by the wayside.

00:19:45.000 It's just there's only a few guys that can sell big pay-per-view.

00:19:50.000 There's maybe four or five guys that can sell big pay-per-view.

00:19:53.000 They don't tell anyone's story.

00:19:54.000 Look at the UFC. There's a countdown every damn Tuesday, Wednesday on... 0.98

00:19:59.000 Billy, you know, Billy's mom passed away and he decided to turn to fighting. 0.94

00:20:03.000 I mean, the UFC does the best job of marking its guys.

00:20:07.000 There was that one fight that was actually really good.

00:20:09.000 Vargas versus that Russian cat.

00:20:11.000 Yeah, that was a good fight.

00:20:12.000 They were both undefeated.

00:20:14.000 That was a very good fight.

00:20:16.000 Again, though, we're talking about that dude versus this Russian dude. 1.00

00:20:18.000 These Russian bad motherfuckers, man. 1.00

00:20:20.000 There's a lot of beast Russians that are making their way into MMA now, making their way into boxing now. 1.00

00:20:26.000 It's really fascinating.

00:20:28.000 How many bad-ass Russians there are? 1.00

00:20:29.000 Siberians just living in Siberia. 1.00

00:20:31.000 Fucking animals. 1.00

00:20:33.000 Scary, really. 1.00

00:20:34.000 Well, it's also the epigenetics.

00:20:36.000 You know, they're saying that now, that people who have had family members, this was something that's passed down through sperm.

00:20:43.000 They believe traumatic events...

00:20:45.000 Your ancestry are passed down through sperm.

00:20:48.000 Wow! 0.95

00:20:49.000 Your DNA shifts or something?

00:20:51.000 Yeah, people who are the children's children and children of people who've survived traumatic disorders or traumatic incidents were more likely to develop all sorts of mental problems, were more likely to be like schizophrenic, like all these issues, mental issues that they could directly correlate with.

00:21:09.000 Possibly to the trauma that their ancestors have established. 0.98

00:21:12.000 Now think about how screwed you are. 0.92

00:21:14.000 If you're little Kenny growing up in Malibu and you want to be a fighter, good luck competing with those guys over in Siberia. 1.00

00:21:22.000 I'm going to turn to them like, nah, you're fucked, man. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Just forget it. 1.00

00:21:25.000 They're just hungry.

00:21:26.000 They have different jaws.

00:21:27.000 They're just a different look in their eyes. 1.00

00:21:29.000 You're playing grab ass with freaking Bruce Jenner. 0.99

00:21:31.000 Meanwhile, this guy's in Siberia freaking wrestling polar bears. 0.99

00:21:38.000 That is hilarious.

00:21:39.000 Who is that?

00:21:40.000 Golovkin? 0.73

00:21:40.000 Golovkin can just... 0.73

00:21:41.000 Triple G? What? 0.85

00:21:43.000 He's the next big star. 0.78

00:21:44.000 He's an animal.

00:21:45.000 He's the next big star. 1.00

00:21:45.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

00:21:46.000 He really is. 1.00

00:21:47.000 Those body shots.

00:21:48.000 No one wants to fight him.

00:21:50.000 I'll tell you what, I'm excited for the Sergio Martinez and Miguel Cotto fight.

00:21:53.000 That's a guy from Argentina.

00:21:55.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 Miguel Cotto has been looking very good in his last few fights.

00:21:58.000 And Martinez is almost 40 at a certain point.

00:22:01.000 And with his style, very different style than Bernard Hopkins. 0.99

00:22:03.000 You know, Bernard Hopkins, 48 fucking years old. 0.99

00:22:06.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:22:07.000 Still out-boxing the shit out of young Sergio. 0.98

00:22:10.000 Sergio's all about footwork. 0.94

00:22:11.000 At some point, when that footwork goes away, he's going to be in trouble.

00:22:14.000 And his left.

00:22:15.000 He's got a brutal, brutal left hand.

00:22:17.000 And he comes in with everything. 0.93

00:22:19.000 He's so good at his movement and his in-and-out movement, he uses that same in-and-out movement to land devastating balls.

00:22:25.000 This is what we're talking about off-air.

00:22:27.000 So he's almost 40. He played soccer almost all his life and then got into boxing, I think, at 28, 29. What?

00:22:33.000 No.

00:22:34.000 Yeah.

00:22:34.000 Multi-time world champ.

00:22:36.000 No matter when you start, whether you're Tito Ortiz or Vitor Belfort starting at 18, 19-year-old, or you're Sergio Martinez starting at 30, no matter when you start, your clock is ticking.

00:22:47.000 You have this amount of fights in you.

00:22:49.000 No matter when.

00:22:50.000 I mean, yeah, guys drag it on, you know, via Fedor or Krokop.

00:22:55.000 Guys are dragging on, but you're only going to be in your prime and you're going to have these many great fights in you.

00:22:59.000 It doesn't matter when you start.

00:23:00.000 Yeah, I was talking to Eve Edwards about that.

00:23:02.000 He's 37 now.

00:23:03.000 He was saying one of the frustrating things for fighters, I think, is that you learn the art.

00:23:07.000 You continue to learn.

00:23:09.000 There's so much to learn, but you continue to learn.

00:23:10.000 And then you get to be 37, 38, and you may be a step slower, but you know so much more.

00:23:16.000 So you just want to try it out.

00:23:17.000 But the game is also timing and speed and power.

00:23:20.000 And guess what?

00:23:20.000 That's why TRT came about.

00:23:23.000 Because those 37, 38-year-olds are like, dang, I know so much, man.

00:23:26.000 But my body's not the same.

00:23:28.000 Let me talk to this doctor over here. 1.00

00:23:30.000 Now we have Epidemic. 0.80

00:23:32.000 Epidemic.

00:23:34.000 It's not an Epidemic.

00:23:36.000 It's an Epidemic.

00:23:37.000 It's an Epidemic.

00:23:38.000 No, you're right, though.

00:23:39.000 But now we have Vitor Belfour in Brazil. 0.78

00:23:42.000 Spinning back, kicking people's faces off.

00:23:44.000 In Brazil, all TRT'd up. 0.93

00:23:46.000 Joe Silva said it best.

00:23:47.000 He goes, it's like Vitor downloaded a Taekwondo black belt.

00:23:51.000 All of a sudden, he's throwing wheel kicks.

00:23:54.000 We've never seen it. 0.99

00:23:55.000 The guy never threw a wheel kick and then knocked out Luka Rockhold with I mean, Luke fucking Rockhold is a beast! 0.96

00:24:00.000 I mean, for him to do what he did... 0.98

00:24:02.000 With ease.

00:24:03.000 And then Bisbee?

00:24:04.000 What?

00:24:04.000 I think you nailed it.

00:24:06.000 What you nailed is exactly what it is.

00:24:08.000 It's that these guys get older, and they get so much more experience and so much more knowledge, but that's the nature balance.

00:24:15.000 Nature gives you that experience and knowledge.

00:24:16.000 So you can teach.

00:24:17.000 It's like the two old...

00:24:18.000 Experience is priceless.

00:24:19.000 It's like the two old buffalo.

00:24:21.000 Is it the old buffalo and the young?

00:24:23.000 The bull and the calf.

00:24:23.000 I don't know this.

00:24:25.000 The bull and the calf.

00:24:25.000 The calf goes...

00:24:27.000 Wait, is it buffaloes or bulls?

00:24:28.000 It's the young bull.

00:24:29.000 The young bull and the old bull.

00:24:30.000 It could be buffalo. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Let's go down there and fuck one of those cows. 1.00

00:24:37.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:24:37.000 You fucked it up already. 1.00

00:24:38.000 Listen. 1.00

00:24:39.000 This is what he says.

00:24:40.000 Is this for real?

00:24:40.000 Listen.

00:24:41.000 He goes, let's run down there and fuck one of those cows. 1.00

00:24:44.000 And the old bull says, let's walk down there and fuck them all. 1.00

00:24:48.000 Fuck them all. 1.00

00:24:48.000 Yeah, alright. 1.00

00:24:49.000 Alright.

00:24:50.000 This is the other thing, though.

00:24:52.000 When these...

00:24:52.000 I get it.

00:24:53.000 I get it.

00:24:54.000 Take it in.

00:24:55.000 Take it in.

00:24:56.000 You're a young bull. 1.00

00:24:57.000 You corrected me and you were still going to fuck it up. 1.00

00:24:59.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:25:00.000 This is the thing, though. 1.00

00:25:01.000 Vitor Belfort and those guys, the sport wasn't as big when they were superstars, right?

00:25:06.000 Right.

00:25:06.000 And now they're like, whoa, the sport's huge.

00:25:09.000 I can stick around and take this stuff and make all this money and be relevant.

00:25:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:25:14.000 There's Vitor.

00:25:15.000 Show that again, Jamie.

00:25:17.000 It's on Look at this.

00:25:21.000 It's not just doing that.

00:25:22.000 It's doing that to Luke Rockhold.

00:25:24.000 Who's better looking than Brennan Schaub, maybe?

00:25:25.000 Easy.

00:25:26.000 Now let me tell you something.

00:25:27.000 He's got muscles on his teeth.

00:25:28.000 He really does.

00:25:30.000 Let me tell you this, though.

00:25:31.000 Luke Rockhold flew for 17 hours from San Jose, California, showed up on a Saturday night, got wheel kicked in the face, and jumped back on a plane. 0.98

00:25:43.000 That's gotta suck. 0.99

00:25:44.000 It does suck. 0.99

00:25:45.000 I fought Nogueira in Brazil. 0.97

00:25:47.000 Can you tell Joe the Nogueira story about the other stuff you're allowed to?

00:25:51.000 Which one?

00:25:51.000 What other stuff?

00:25:52.000 Money.

00:25:53.000 Jersey.

00:25:54.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:25:55.000 Tell us.

00:25:57.000 Is there a secret?

00:25:58.000 They're not really.

00:25:59.000 For sure, quit eating those nuts. 1.00

00:26:00.000 That's fucking my whole game. 1.00

00:26:02.000 Yeah, stop all that. 0.99

00:26:04.000 Before we tell any story, I want to go back to this TRT thing, because we can't just gloss over it like that.

00:26:09.000 No, it's a huge...

00:26:10.000 It's a huge subject.

00:26:10.000 I think you nailed it, though, too, and you did, too, talking about Eve Edwards' feelings of all the knowledge he's acquired.

00:26:17.000 That does seem to be like nature's balancing act, right?

00:26:21.000 Yeah.

00:26:21.000 Nature doesn't want you to have all that knowledge and live forever.

00:26:26.000 Well, it's like God saying, oh, you got it?

00:26:27.000 Cool. 1.00

00:26:28.000 Oh, your body sucks. 1.00

00:26:29.000 You can't do it anymore. 0.99

00:26:29.000 Well, it's sort of like the beauty of everything is that it's temporary. 0.99

00:26:33.000 What's our favorite thing?

00:26:34.000 Let's be realistic. 0.76

00:26:35.000 Sex, right? 0.98

00:26:36.000 Most people's favorite thing is sex. 0.99

00:26:38.000 When you're really horny and you're having sex with someone who you really like having sex with, it's one of the greatest things on earth. 0.82

00:26:43.000 One of the greatest things about it is you know it's not going to last. 0.98

00:26:46.000 Look, if you're a stud, if you're great, you'd be bored of it.

00:26:51.000 Well, that's why guys do drugs and stuff.

00:26:53.000 See, this is the problem. 1.00

00:26:54.000 Yeah, but those people are freaks and their pupils are this big and they never open the fucking curtain. 1.00

00:27:00.000 But it's the same concept with sex. 1.00

00:27:02.000 He's like, man, you know what would make this even better?

00:27:04.000 If we did molly on this.

00:27:06.000 The same difference is like, oh, I'm cool, I'm fighting, but you know what would be better?

00:27:09.000 If I did steroids.

00:27:11.000 But this is a good point, because the molly thing, if you do it on molly, when all that stuff wears off, which it will wear off eventually... 1.00

00:27:16.000 You're fucking wrecked! 0.99

00:27:19.000 Wrecked. 1.00

00:27:20.000 Because you're in debt.

00:27:21.000 You're like a kid with a student loan.

00:27:23.000 Like, you started out of the gate.

00:27:25.000 You're like Snuffleupagus on Sesame Street, just super down.

00:27:28.000 Way more.

00:27:29.000 Really down.

00:27:29.000 You paid way more than you have.

00:27:31.000 It's like seeing, when you see those people who are just like, now they're...

00:27:35.000 53, hanging around a coffee shop with a ponytail, and they don't really have a job.

00:27:40.000 They're trying to get things done, and you're like, oh, you had a really good time for 15 years.

00:27:45.000 Maybe.

00:27:45.000 That's the same with fighting.

00:27:46.000 You'll meet some fighters.

00:27:47.000 I'll meet some fighters who are so punchy, and they're maybe 40, 45. For 15 years, this guy was the man.

00:27:54.000 I wanted to be him.

00:27:55.000 Now I look at him, and I'm like, dude, you make me never want to fight again.

00:27:58.000 What were you doing?

00:27:59.000 Do you have a number in your head or a place in your head where you're going to reach where you're like, that's it?

00:28:06.000 Whether it's an age number or whether it's a physical number, a feeling that you're going to have when you know when to hang out?

00:28:12.000 I think you know.

00:28:13.000 But do you?

00:28:14.000 Because that seems to be the problem.

00:28:15.000 People ask me this now.

00:28:17.000 When do you think?

00:28:18.000 I'd probably say I have a good five years left.

00:28:21.000 Especially the way I train.

00:28:23.000 Like, Brian, you know, I don't have an off-season.

00:28:25.000 I'm in shape year-round.

00:28:26.000 I train non-stop year-round.

00:28:29.000 Do you do that to continue with your improvement, or do you also do that in case someone calls, like in case you get a last-minute call?

00:28:35.000 No, just to get better.

00:28:37.000 Just to get better.

00:28:38.000 Continue your improvement.

00:28:38.000 The only reason.

00:28:39.000 You're always training.

00:28:40.000 He's always training.

00:28:42.000 Well, hey man, that's the right attitude to have in the Hurt Business.

00:28:45.000 You know, you can't be casual about this.

00:28:47.000 Dude, there are monsters out there.

00:28:49.000 I just called out Mark Hunt.

00:28:50.000 I just called out Mark Hunt.

00:28:52.000 Listen to this. 0.99

00:28:53.000 He talks shit to me on Twitter at 10 o'clock at night, which is whatever time in New Zealand. 1.00

00:28:58.000 It's 10 o'clock at night. 1.00

00:28:59.000 I read it.

00:28:59.000 I'm like, yeah, whatever.

00:29:00.000 I'm watching Naked and Afraid or Teen Mom or some bullshit, right? 0.97

00:29:03.000 I'm like, whatever. 0.99

00:29:04.000 Sitting there.

00:29:05.000 It's just killing me.

00:29:06.000 I'm like, you know what? 1.00

00:29:07.000 Fuck this guy. 1.00

00:29:08.000 Goodbye. 1.00

00:29:09.000 I talked shit to him. 1.00

00:29:10.000 He bites. 1.00

00:29:11.000 We're going back and forth.

00:29:12.000 Finally, it was almost like butter.

00:29:15.000 Just bam.

00:29:16.000 Next thing I know, I had him agree to a winner-takes-all fight.

00:29:20.000 And we're fighting in August.

00:29:21.000 Winner-takes-all.

00:29:22.000 Mark Hunt, Brendan Shaw, main event.

00:29:23.000 You guys are having a winner-takes-all fight?

00:29:25.000 It was my idea.

00:29:26.000 So how does that work financially as far as with the UFC? Well, the UFC won't sanction it.

00:29:33.000 Okay, so you have to pay him your purse when it's over?

00:29:36.000 Well, he's going to pay me his purse, but yes.

00:29:38.000 Well, okay.

00:29:38.000 That's what I meant.

00:29:39.000 Yes, there you go.

00:29:40.000 You know, it's like Mike and I, you know, it's just the proper way.

00:29:44.000 He's going to pay me his purse.

00:29:46.000 But the thing is, you get all hyped up.

00:29:47.000 I get done with that, sitting in bed.

00:29:49.000 My heart's going a million miles an hour.

00:29:51.000 I just called out the, whatever, number 5'6 heavyweight in the world.

00:29:56.000 The hardest hitter in the division.

00:29:58.000 And it's a winner-takes-all fight.

00:30:00.000 Not an ounce of sleep.

00:30:01.000 Woke up at 7am and went to practice.

00:30:04.000 No pressure.

00:30:05.000 That was a Wednesday night.

00:30:08.000 And you want to be a UFC fighter? 1.00

00:30:10.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:30:11.000 Yeah, the pressure is probably alien to most people. 1.00

00:30:14.000 It's insane!

00:30:15.000 Fight week?

00:30:16.000 What?

00:30:17.000 Fight week?

00:30:18.000 Depression.

00:30:18.000 You think about all the other avenues you could have gone down to avoid jumping into that cage, for sure.

00:30:24.000 Everything goes through your mind.

00:30:25.000 You mean all the other avenues in life, like what you could have done?

00:30:27.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:30:27.000 I should be married with kids.

00:30:29.000 I could be wearing a suit and tie.

00:30:31.000 I'm a double major from University of Colorado.

00:30:33.000 I could be doing this.

00:30:34.000 I should have done this.

00:30:35.000 I could have done this.

00:30:36.000 When does that go away?

00:30:38.000 When does that go away?

00:30:40.000 Uh, man, probably right when I get in the cage.

00:30:43.000 When I hit the crowd, I'm cool.

00:30:45.000 In the back, I'm like, dang, what are we doing?

00:30:47.000 So once you hit the crowd, then you're like, it's on, you're in its on mode, and your body can relax, saying at least it's going to get a release from all this tension.

00:30:55.000 Exactly, yep.

00:30:56.000 Yeah, isn't that what it is?

00:30:57.000 It's like, once the first round starts, people would think, like, God, it must be scary to fight.

00:31:01.000 But I would imagine that the most brutal thing is just getting there.

00:31:05.000 The build-up.

00:31:06.000 Just getting there.

00:31:07.000 Oh, when you're fighting, you know, my last fight, I was the third fight in Toronto, UFC 165, against Mitrione.

00:31:15.000 I mean, I didn't fight until, shoot, 9 o'clock at night.

00:31:18.000 You're waiting around all day thinking about the fight.

00:31:20.000 And when do you eat?

00:31:22.000 It's tough for me to eat because of my nerves.

00:31:24.000 That's why everyone's like, oh, shop's cut to 205. Listen, I'm 252 pounds right now.

00:31:28.000 The only reason I weigh in so light is because I can't eat.

00:31:31.000 The week of the fight, I can't eat.

00:31:33.000 So that's why I weigh in so light.

00:31:35.000 Wow, that's crazy.

00:31:36.000 I love Brendan because he's so honest about it.

00:31:38.000 He calls out Alistair Overeem on Twitter and he stops and he goes, yeah, God told him.

00:31:43.000 And then he's like...

00:31:44.000 I've got to go train.

00:31:46.000 I'll hit the ground running, man.

00:31:48.000 Fear is a good thing for a fighter, though, isn't it?

00:31:50.000 So is honesty.

00:31:52.000 Honesty, fear.

00:31:53.000 Oh, people all the time are like, oh, man, Chuck Liddell's not like that.

00:31:57.000 Hate to tell you, my man, your favorite fighter is just scared to admit it.

00:32:01.000 I'm not scared to admit it.

00:32:03.000 People are terrified back there.

00:32:05.000 You're going to fight another trained killer inside the octagon, basically in your underwear, in front of millions of people.

00:32:12.000 Millions of people.

00:32:13.000 You're going to be a little scared.

00:32:15.000 I hate to tell you that.

00:32:16.000 I hate to tell you that, man.

00:32:18.000 Of course! 0.99

00:32:19.000 How could you think that you wouldn't like your fucking cool hand Luke who's going to strut in there with a smile on your face? 0.99

00:32:23.000 Anyone who acts cool is a good actor. 0.99

00:32:25.000 Hicks and Gracie said there's a close relationship between fear and intelligence.

00:32:29.000 And he said anybody who's not afraid at all, I always go, I shake my head, I go, that guy's not very smart.

00:32:36.000 I'll tell you what.

00:32:36.000 Kenny told me this.

00:32:37.000 Tough fighters don't last.

00:32:39.000 Smart fighters do.

00:32:40.000 And he's right, man.

00:32:41.000 Yeah, he's totally right.

00:32:42.000 He's so correct.

00:32:44.000 Bernard Hopkins.

00:32:45.000 Back to Bernard Hopkins.

00:32:46.000 48 years old in boxing and he talks clear.

00:32:51.000 So incredible.

00:32:52.000 Doesn't have any issues.

00:32:54.000 Very rarely gets hit clean.

00:32:55.000 Very rarely.

00:32:56.000 He might get hit clean two or three times in a whole fight.

00:32:57.000 Floyd Mayweather is the same way, right?

00:32:59.000 Very rarely it's hit.

00:33:00.000 Last guy to hit him clean was Sugar Shane Mosley. 0.99

00:33:02.000 Sugar Shane Mosley rocked him with the right hand.

00:33:04.000 He covered up, recovered, then boxed his face.

00:33:06.000 That Instagram of Sugar Shane between you and Tim Tebow, he looked like you guys won him in something.

00:33:11.000 Like, he's tiny.

00:33:12.000 I'll tell you what, he was a tad punchy.

00:33:14.000 I'm not going to lie to you.

00:33:15.000 He's a little bit punchy.

00:33:16.000 Floyd?

00:33:17.000 No.

00:33:17.000 Sugar Shane.

00:33:18.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:33:19.000 No.

00:33:20.000 Yeah, I'm sure Sugar Shane's a little punchy.

00:33:23.000 He's a lot of wars.

00:33:24.000 I think Bradley's going to be punchy.

00:33:27.000 Bradley's going to be super punchy.

00:33:27.000 I've never seen anybody take that kind of punishment.

00:33:29.000 Do you think it's worth it, Joe?

00:33:30.000 What about the Provadnikov fight?

00:33:32.000 Did you see that fight?

00:33:32.000 The craziest thing I've ever seen.

00:33:33.000 He fought a fucking, the best way Max Kellerman described it, you took a Siberian caveman, thawed him out, and then put boxing gloves on him. 0.99

00:33:40.000 That's what that guy was like. 0.99

00:33:41.000 Bradley had slurred speech for at least a month after.

00:33:44.000 Yeah, he talked about it after the fight.

00:33:45.000 So you guys have kids.

00:33:47.000 Your kid wants to fight, and most likely there's going to be some trouble down the road with his brain if he's a fighter.

00:33:53.000 You say, cool?

00:33:54.000 You're down?

00:33:55.000 I say you do whatever you want to do.

00:33:56.000 If that's what you want to do, you can't half-ass it.

00:34:00.000 I don't want my kid to have that.

00:34:02.000 Oh, I didn't say Lazy McGee here.

00:34:03.000 But I mean, if you want to do it, if that's what you want to do, that's what you should do.

00:34:07.000 I don't think anyone should do anything other than that.

00:34:10.000 If it gets to a certain point, look, that's what I wanted to do when I was young.

00:34:13.000 I wanted to fight.

00:34:14.000 When I figured out at a certain point in time there was no future, that's when I stopped doing it.

00:34:18.000 What made you realize there's no future?

00:34:20.000 It was nothing in 1989. When I had my last kickboxing match, there was nothing.

00:34:25.000 There was no kickboxing.

00:34:26.000 Taekwondo, I couldn't respect it the way I used to respect it because I started kickboxing.

00:34:33.000 Legitimate kickboxing here is what we're talking about?

00:34:35.000 You started competing in it?

00:34:36.000 I fought...

00:34:38.000 Above the waist, PKA style.

00:34:40.000 And then I started training Muay Thai, and then I realized there was even more holes in the above the waist style.

00:34:47.000 But above the waist, PKA style, the real problem was the boxing. 0.99

00:34:51.000 I had done Taekwondo for so long, my hands were shit. 0.97

00:34:55.000 And my ability to move and throw kicks and punches together, it was all disjointed. 0.97

00:35:00.000 It just wasn't the right way to do things.

00:35:02.000 When did you get into Jiu-Jitsu?

00:35:06.000 96?

00:35:06.000 Joe got me into Jiu Jitsu.

00:35:08.000 So I went through like this period where I was training like all the time in a martial art that had all these holes in it.

00:35:15.000 So I wasn't ever going to go back and compete like try to make the US Olympic team or anything like that because I didn't feel the same way about Taekwondo. 0.99

00:35:22.000 I didn't want to just do it anymore because I knew how easy it is for a guy Just cover up and walk you down and corner you in a ring and fuck you up because you don't know how to deal with hands. 0.98

00:35:31.000 There were so many holes in it. 0.99

00:35:34.000 It's so much easier to punch you in the face when guys were throwing kicks and punches together and you didn't understand the rhythm and the distance of punches.

00:35:44.000 So when I went from that, I had no choice.

00:35:47.000 There was no options.

00:35:48.000 But if there was an option, like if kickboxing paid like what boxing does, if there was a UFC option at that time, I would have had to learn grappling, so I probably still wouldn't have competed in the UFC if there was something like that. 0.55

00:36:01.000 When I first started grappling, when I first started jiu-jitsu in 96, I was amazed at how easy it was for men to just rape me.

00:36:09.000 Just ragdoll me, choke me, armbar me at will. 1.00

00:36:13.000 They looked the same size as me.

00:36:16.000 They looked pretty similar.

00:36:17.000 I looked at these people and I'd be like, well, you're not that bigger than me.

00:36:21.000 You realize how vulnerable you are.

00:36:22.000 Oh, it's disturbing.

00:36:24.000 I think fighting, like even learning a little bit of fighting makes you more afraid, not less afraid.

00:36:28.000 More humble, for sure.

00:36:29.000 It's also, don't you feel like, um, out of all the pro athletes, fighters are probably the most approachable and the most down to earth?

00:36:36.000 Easy.

00:36:37.000 Easy.

00:36:37.000 Long shot.

00:36:38.000 There's a reason why when a UFC fighter goes into an event, whether it's the ESPYs, whatever it is, all sorts of stuff, right?

00:36:45.000 There can be NBA, NHL, NFL, the who's who, actors.

00:36:49.000 The room wants to talk to the fighter.

00:36:51.000 Because guess what?

00:36:52.000 No one is willing to do what a fighter does.

00:36:54.000 So when a famous fighter walks in a room, he's the center of the attention.

00:36:57.000 Every time, man.

00:36:58.000 That's fascinating.

00:36:59.000 Every time.

00:36:59.000 What if there's Michael Jordan and Uriah Faber?

00:37:02.000 Different story.

00:37:03.000 Michael Jordan is stealing all of them.

00:37:04.000 I mean, Michael Jordan is a little different.

00:37:06.000 Now, Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, I bet you Muhammad Ali is going to get some interest.

00:37:12.000 Not Muhammad Ali right now.

00:37:13.000 Right.

00:37:14.000 Whatever.

00:37:15.000 When he was young.

00:37:15.000 Yes.

00:37:16.000 How about, okay, let's perfect example.

00:37:17.000 Mike Tyson 86. Mike Tyson, Mike Jordan.

00:37:19.000 I bet you more people go up to Mike Tyson.

00:37:21.000 Mike Tyson in 86. I think it taps into the cave, man.

00:37:23.000 Walk down the street and people would call their friends.

00:37:25.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:37:26.000 It taps into the fact that there's a man in the room that can kill everybody with his bare hands. 0.79

00:37:30.000 Yeah.

00:37:30.000 That's fascinating to men.

00:37:32.000 That's the John L. Sullivan. 0.99

00:37:33.000 I can lick any man in this room. 0.93

00:37:34.000 But when you're a kid, everyone wants to be a fighter. 0.99

00:37:37.000 You're fighting your brother.

00:37:38.000 You're fighting your friend.

00:37:38.000 Who's the toughest kid in the neighborhood.

00:37:39.000 Yeah.

00:37:39.000 Right.

00:37:40.000 What sports boiled down to the rawest element? 0.99

00:37:43.000 It's like, the game you're playing is, let's play, kill you. 0.98

00:37:46.000 Yeah, that's right. 1.00

00:37:47.000 You try to kill me, I try to kill you. 0.99

00:37:48.000 But some of them are a game. 0.99

00:37:50.000 Some of them are a game, right?

00:37:51.000 Like, football's a game.

00:37:52.000 Basketball's a game.

00:37:53.000 Listen, if LeBron James misses a jump shot, hey, listen, he's going to go tomorrow.

00:37:58.000 If I miss the timing of Mark Hunt's left hook, listen, my jaw's going to be shattered in 30 different spots.

00:38:05.000 I'm not fighting for probably a year and a half.

00:38:07.000 That's the difference.

00:38:08.000 The stakes are a lot higher.

00:38:09.000 What?

00:38:10.000 Way higher.

00:38:11.000 Not even comparable.

00:38:12.000 Yeah, not comparable at all.

00:38:13.000 You could lose 20 basketball games in a row and still go to the movies.

00:38:17.000 Imagine if you lost 20 fights in a row.

00:38:19.000 You're not going to have a job.

00:38:20.000 Yeah, it'd be impossible.

00:38:21.000 And you're physically...

00:38:22.000 Eddie Bravo and I were talking about this.

00:38:25.000 This is a perfect way to describe one of the great things about jiu-jitsu is think about how many times you've been tapped in your life in jiu-jitsu.

00:38:32.000 I've probably been tapped a hundred times.

00:38:34.000 Now, what if I had been head kicked, knocked out a hundred times?

00:38:37.000 Forget it.

00:38:38.000 What if a hundred times I got wheel kicked like Luke Rockhold?

00:38:41.000 Could you imagine a person who's been wheel kicked in the head a hundred times? 0.99

00:38:45.000 You actually might be dead. 0.81

00:38:46.000 I don't think you could take full wheel kicks like that a hundred times. 0.95

00:38:49.000 A hundred of those in your life.

00:38:50.000 I don't think you could have some problems.

00:38:51.000 You'd have nothing left.

00:38:52.000 You'd have literally nothing left.

00:38:54.000 But you can do that. 0.97

00:38:55.000 You can get rear naked choked a hundred times in a month and you're okay. 0.97

00:39:00.000 True. 0.99

00:39:00.000 You're going to be sore. 0.99

00:39:01.000 You're going to be sore.

00:39:02.000 But you're going to be okay.

00:39:03.000 And there's a big difference between these two death moves.

00:39:06.000 But this is the difference.

00:39:07.000 In striking, if someone's about to blast me with the right hand, I can't tap out and be like, no, we're good, man.

00:39:12.000 Yeah, you got that.

00:39:13.000 You got that.

00:39:13.000 That's a good point, too.

00:39:16.000 Listen, if you're going against a guy who's like, if I get a hold of something, I'm going to rip your arm up, you're going to be in trouble.

00:39:20.000 Some Paul Harris type character.

00:39:21.000 Yes, you're not going to be able to roll every day.

00:39:23.000 Right.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, that's the difference.

00:39:24.000 That's true, too.

00:39:25.000 In Jiu-Jitsu, there's a way out.

00:39:27.000 In Jiu-Jitsu, there's a white flag.

00:39:29.000 In boxing, you know, in these other sports, there's no white flag. 1.00

00:39:32.000 That's why it's so crazy when someone doesn't use that white flag and you watch their shit get snapped. 0.99

00:39:37.000 It's like, Doc, you're out for a long, long time. 0.99

00:39:39.000 Like Henson Gracie, watch Sakuraba. 1.00

00:39:41.000 Break his arm. 0.94

00:39:42.000 Well, that fight was over, though.

00:39:43.000 How about Tim Sylvia and Frank Mir?

00:39:46.000 Frank Mir snapped his forearm in half.

00:39:48.000 He didn't feel it, right?

00:39:49.000 Tim Sylvia's trying to punch him with the left.

00:39:51.000 Unbelievable.

00:39:52.000 I mean, he knew something was wrong, but he was like, you know what? 1.00

00:39:56.000 Fuck it. 1.00

00:39:56.000 I'm just going to hit him with my other hand. 1.00

00:39:58.000 I didn't see that. 0.99

00:39:59.000 Oh, my God.

00:39:59.000 It snapped.

00:40:00.000 Like, the forearm was straight.

00:40:03.000 Her beam has to stop it. 0.95

00:40:03.000 No, no, no. 0.95

00:40:04.000 He stopped the fight.

00:40:05.000 Watch.

00:40:05.000 Pull that up.

00:40:06.000 Frank Mir...

00:40:07.000 God, Frank Mirror is so scary.

00:40:09.000 The audience didn't know what was going on, so the audience was yelling.

00:40:11.000 And I had to explain it to the audience.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, I had to explain it.

00:40:15.000 I go, watch it right here.

00:40:16.000 And the audience went, oh!

00:40:18.000 You've seen so much violence.

00:40:20.000 Watch this, watch this, watch this, watch this.

00:40:21.000 Watch the forums.

00:40:22.000 Ow! 1.00

00:40:23.000 Yeah, baby.

00:40:24.000 Ow! 1.00

00:40:24.000 That's how powerful... 1.00

00:40:26.000 Herb Dean is a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:40:28.000 He's yelling, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. 1.00

00:40:30.000 He separates it, and he's like, yo, dude, your arm is broken.

00:40:33.000 This fight is over.

00:40:34.000 Yo, homie, your arm... 0.99

00:40:35.000 So during the replay, the audience was booing.

00:40:38.000 They were really pissed off.

00:40:39.000 I go, watch this.

00:40:39.000 Right here.

00:40:40.000 Right here.

00:40:43.000 Boom! 0.99

00:40:44.000 Oh my god!

00:40:46.000 Frank Mir is one of my favorites.

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 My god.

00:40:48.000 That was an incredible armbar.

00:40:50.000 He's the only guy in the UFC, by the way, who's broken two guys' arms.

00:40:53.000 Two high-level world champions' arms.

00:40:57.000 Insane.

00:40:58.000 Noguera and Frank Mir.

00:40:59.000 And he almost ripped Lesnar's leg apart.

00:41:02.000 Lesnar had a normal-sized leg. 1.00

00:41:04.000 You know, Mazzagati fucked up, man. 1.00

00:41:06.000 Yes. 1.00

00:41:07.000 That was a bad...

00:41:08.000 Lesnar was tapping, and then he tapped again.

00:41:10.000 He tapped some more, and then finally the referee stopped it.

00:41:13.000 Paul Harris style, for sure.

00:41:14.000 Oh, if Paul Harris got a hold of that, he doesn't do the straight leg locks very rarely.

00:41:19.000 Well, he's doing ankle locks, man, which is way more trouble.

00:41:22.000 Well, he's doing inside heel hooks.

00:41:23.000 That's his favorite.

00:41:24.000 He loves that inside heel hook.

00:41:25.000 He did it again to somebody.

00:41:26.000 Yeah, well, he let go.

00:41:27.000 He let go.

00:41:28.000 You see, everybody's saying that he doesn't let go.

00:41:30.000 They're going to jump off.

00:41:31.000 They're jumping on him no matter what he does.

00:41:32.000 If he gets a submission, they're jumping on him.

00:41:34.000 He absolutely has held submissions for too long, though.

00:41:37.000 For sure.

00:41:37.000 Absolutely.

00:41:38.000 Not just once, many times.

00:41:39.000 There's fights of his in Brazil where he's got a lock on a guy and he will not let go.

00:41:44.000 And the referee's prying at him and he will not let go. 0.94

00:41:46.000 And I don't remember if it was a choke or it was a leg lock, but he fucked that guy up. 0.90

00:41:51.000 I heard in training he's the exact same way. 0.96

00:41:53.000 He really only trains with his brother.

00:41:55.000 His brother he doesn't do that with.

00:41:57.000 Everyone else is like, no, I'm good, man.

00:41:58.000 He hangs on to stuff.

00:41:59.000 That's so crazy.

00:42:00.000 That's so scary, a guy who does that. 1.00

00:42:02.000 It's ridiculous. 0.99

00:42:03.000 Especially a guy who's built like that. 1.00

00:42:05.000 I mean, Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

00:42:05.000 It's crazy how he's built. 1.00

00:42:07.000 He is the biggest 170 pounder I've ever seen ever.

00:42:10.000 So weird.

00:42:10.000 He has a smaller forehead than me.

00:42:12.000 Have you ever seen him?

00:42:14.000 He does.

00:42:15.000 My eyebrows are about to run into the side here.

00:42:18.000 He's very similar.

00:42:20.000 Cro-Magnon-esque, right?

00:42:22.000 Yeah.

00:42:23.000 That guy has the best leg locks, man.

00:42:25.000 His leg locks are so finishing.

00:42:28.000 He grabs a hold of one.

00:42:29.000 It's like 9 out of 10 someone's tapping.

00:42:31.000 For sure.

00:42:32.000 Except Alan Belcher.

00:42:33.000 Belcher beat the brakes off of him.

00:42:35.000 Belcher beat the brakes on him.

00:42:36.000 Not only did he do it, he willingly went into leg lock positions because he worked his entire camp on defending.

00:42:42.000 He just punched him in the face.

00:42:43.000 Heavy, sat on top, punched, passed, punched.

00:42:46.000 I should ask Alan and give props to whoever coached him on his leg locks there. 0.96

00:42:51.000 But Alan Belcher is a wizard at that shit now because he prepared for that fight and did everything, every step of the way, like everything, blocked everything, knew exactly what to expect. 0.96

00:43:01.000 And you can see Palaharis is so flustered. 0.99

00:43:03.000 He really didn't know what to do because Alan was like in right where he wanted, in the spiderweb, defending everything and then punching him in his face.

00:43:11.000 Well, Palaharis has a little bit of an issue.

00:43:13.000 Like, do you remember Nate Markart?

00:43:15.000 Yeah.

00:43:16.000 When Nate pulled out of the leg submission, he's like, What?

00:43:18.000 What?

00:43:19.000 And then, bam! 0.96

00:43:20.000 Blast in the face.

00:43:20.000 Well, he was accusing Nate of greasing.

00:43:23.000 Because he couldn't believe that Nate got out of his leg lock.

00:43:27.000 Well, Nate was pretty honest about what he did.

00:43:29.000 He said, I warmed up a lot because I knew the guy was really good at leg locks.

00:43:33.000 I wanted to be nice and slippery.

00:43:34.000 So I sweat a lot.

00:43:35.000 You're allowed to do that.

00:43:36.000 For sure.

00:43:38.000 There's no issue with that.

00:43:39.000 But he's like, ooh!

00:43:40.000 Yeah, he's like, what?

00:43:40.000 And as he's pointing, Nate goes, kaboom!

00:43:43.000 Nate just dove on him.

00:43:44.000 It was great.

00:43:44.000 Well, do you remember that fight?

00:43:46.000 He fought Dan Miller?

00:43:47.000 And jumped up on the cage?

00:43:49.000 And they're like, what?

00:43:50.000 He hit him and rocked him and for whatever reason decided the fight was over.

00:43:54.000 So he starts celebrating.

00:43:56.000 He jumps on the cage!

00:43:58.000 They pull him down from the cage.

00:43:59.000 The referee's like, the fight's still on.

00:44:01.000 You have to keep fighting.

00:44:02.000 What are you doing?

00:44:04.000 Did he end up winning?

00:44:05.000 Well, I think he won.

00:44:06.000 He won a decision.

00:44:07.000 I think he won a decision.

00:44:08.000 But it was one of the weirdest things ever.

00:44:10.000 A little embarrassing.

00:44:11.000 It's like he just decided that the referee was stopping the fight. 0.97

00:44:14.000 Real McAsshole. 0.97

00:44:15.000 Jumping up on the cage. 0.98

00:44:17.000 They're literally grabbing his shorts and being like, hey homie, you're still going.

00:44:20.000 Pull that up.

00:44:21.000 Paul Harris vs.

00:44:22.000 Dan Miller.

00:44:24.000 I don't know if you can find the exchange, because it's so bizarre.

00:44:28.000 It's weird.

00:44:29.000 He has an issue, obviously.

00:44:30.000 Well, if you read about that guy's childhood, it was one of the most horrific childhoods.

00:44:36.000 Oh, that's it right there.

00:44:36.000 That's it?

00:44:37.000 There he is.

00:44:37.000 Yeah, look.

00:44:38.000 He walks away.

00:44:39.000 Look, he's on the cage.

00:44:40.000 You have to tear him down.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, let's look at the finish again.

00:44:44.000 Watch it again.

00:44:44.000 Look at how muscular he is.

00:44:46.000 What was Dan Miller going to do though?

00:44:48.000 Bring it all the way back to the beginning so we can see what happened before.

00:44:51.000 So he hits him.

00:44:52.000 He hits him.

00:44:52.000 Boom.

00:44:53.000 Boom.

00:44:53.000 And he just got off.

00:44:54.000 He just decides.

00:44:56.000 What is that?

00:44:56.000 That's so crazy.

00:44:57.000 What is that?

00:44:58.000 He just decided that it was over.

00:45:00.000 What world is he in?

00:45:00.000 And then look, I love how Dan Miller's rushing over to him to grab him on the cage.

00:45:04.000 Yeah, that's ridiculous. 0.86

00:45:04.000 What was he going to do? 0.86

00:45:06.000 Those arms are so ridiculous. 0.97

00:45:08.000 And what does he weigh in there? 0.97

00:45:09.000 185. Well, he weighed in at 185. He's probably, you know, 2+.

00:45:13.000 His nickname is Tree Stump.

00:45:15.000 Yeah.

00:45:15.000 His legs are like this, man.

00:45:17.000 170. He just tapped Steve Carl.

00:45:19.000 Oh, his childhood.

00:45:20.000 Yeah.

00:45:21.000 His childhood was unbelievably horrific.

00:45:23.000 I mean, he was working.

00:45:24.000 Yeah, he's working on a farm when he was a little boy.

00:45:26.000 They ate pig slop.

00:45:28.000 He literally had to eat pig slop to stay alive.

00:45:30.000 He had no food.

00:45:31.000 When he first started training, he was just dirt poor.

00:45:34.000 Like, as poor as can be.

00:45:36.000 There's this big scar on his chest.

00:45:38.000 They couldn't afford to take him to a hospital, so they glued it.

00:45:41.000 They had a giant gash on his chest, and they glued it together.

00:45:45.000 When he was a little kid, I mean, he lived a hard, hard life.

00:45:49.000 Probably filled with trauma that people like us that grew up in a nice neighborhood probably could never understand.

00:45:56.000 Again, Kenny in Malibu who wants to fight. 0.99

00:45:58.000 No, man, you're screwed, bud. 0.99

00:45:59.000 Because Paul Harris is super gluing his chest and ankle-locking pigs when he's eight years old. 0.99

00:46:06.000 Yeah, well, we might have been talking about that.

00:46:08.000 Was that before the podcast or was it during the commercials that we were saying that?

00:46:11.000 But it's the epigenetics thing.

00:46:13.000 The scientists have proven that fear and memory can be inherited via sperm.

00:46:17.000 I didn't know that.

00:46:19.000 It's been a while, but there's papers that have been published on it now, apparently.

00:46:24.000 That's crazy.

00:46:25.000 Researchers began testing the pups of traumatized dads It makes sense evolutionarily,

00:46:50.000 though.

00:46:51.000 Really?

00:46:52.000 Yeah, because Steve Rinella said, you start hunting an area, the animals, like the elk in Yellowstone, because the wolves were just introduced, their generation to generations have not had to deal with wolves.

00:47:01.000 So what happens is, they don't really know how to defend against wolves.

00:47:05.000 They don't have the built-in, startled responses, etc.

00:47:08.000 But as they start getting killed by wolves more and more, their offspring will learn, so it makes total sense.

00:47:15.000 So this is what happened.

00:47:16.000 They used the smell of this chemical, which has a citrusy smell.

00:47:20.000 It's called acetophenone, and it was paired with a slightly discomforting electric shock to their feet.

00:47:28.000 So that's what they did to the dads.

00:47:30.000 Then they gave the children of the dads this acetophenone spray, and they panicked.

00:47:38.000 This is rats?

00:47:40.000 Mice.

00:47:40.000 Mice, yeah.

00:47:41.000 I mean, that's some insane shit, man. 1.00

00:47:45.000 It's just, whose job is that? 1.00

00:47:47.000 Whose job is like, hey, get the rats, grab their feet, man?

00:47:50.000 I mean, who's doing that?

00:47:52.000 Who's giving these rats these feet? 1.00

00:47:54.000 That makes sense.

00:47:55.000 From an evolutionary standpoint, if you continue to be hunted by lions, the first time a gazelle sees a lion, it's running.

00:48:02.000 It doesn't have to say, hey, what is that thing?

00:48:04.000 So my kid's gonna love coffee and frickin' thick chicks, or what? 0.99

00:48:08.000 Is that how it works?

00:48:10.000 I think every healthy boy likes thick chicks. 1.00

00:48:14.000 I know.

00:48:15.000 I was having this conversation with women about, with Amy Schumer, about models, like the idea of a model.

00:48:21.000 No one likes that! 0.99

00:48:22.000 No one likes that! 0.99

00:48:24.000 Well, I mean, it's not awful.

00:48:26.000 I don't want anybody who's really skinny to feel bad.

00:48:29.000 No, not at all.

00:48:29.000 But you don't have to starve yourself to look like that.

00:48:31.000 You're not doing anybody any favors.

00:48:33.000 But it's very rare you find a guy who's like, dang, look at that girl.

00:48:37.000 I can see every rib.

00:48:39.000 She is fine.

00:48:39.000 It's like trying to take a nap in a wooden chair.

00:48:42.000 No, I've never met a guy who just signed me up for that skinny-ass model. 0.95

00:48:46.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:48:47.000 Yeah.

00:48:48.000 But girls have this idea where they need to be that skinny. 1.00

00:48:51.000 Guys don't like that. 0.90

00:48:52.000 Well, it's gay guys who are fashion designers. 0.90

00:48:54.000 I'm not saying the straight guys aren't, but a lot of them are gay, let's be real. 0.92

00:48:57.000 It's not homophobic, to be honest. 1.00

00:48:59.000 There's a lot of gay guys that, you know, obviously they're not looking for a hips-to-waist ratio, ass-to-waist ratio, because they're not thinking about fucking them. 1.00

00:49:09.000 So they're thin and slender. 1.00

00:49:11.000 But also, that dress looks cool on that coat hanger.

00:49:16.000 If we could get a chick to be that skinny and thin so it would look just like that, and then toss a blonde wig, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:49:23.000 So the clothes look the same.

00:49:25.000 Yeah, it's a weird thing.

00:49:26.000 That's why I look good in a dress, guys. 0.99

00:49:27.000 They need models with blonde asses. 1.00

00:49:29.000 Women decide that women who look like that look good, though. 1.00

00:49:32.000 That gets weird.

00:49:33.000 Well, because they see it in magazines.

00:49:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:49:36.000 They're told, culturally, you can be told, like some tribes in Africa, like in Burma, those women with the really long necks.

00:49:42.000 How about the women in Africa that put the plates in their face? 1.00

00:49:44.000 Yeah.

00:49:45.000 The bigger the plate, the more cattle you're worth.

00:49:47.000 Foot binding in China? 0.82

00:49:49.000 You can learn.

00:49:50.000 Cultures learn what's attractive. 1.00

00:49:52.000 Yeah, I'm just talking about boobs and ass here. 1.00

00:49:56.000 Well, that's the normal route. 0.99

00:49:58.000 That's the DNA, but there's the cultural route.

00:50:01.000 What do you think it is? 0.97

00:50:02.000 What do you think it is why guys are attracted to bigger butts and bigger boobs? 1.00

00:50:05.000 They breed better. 0.96

00:50:07.000 That's a fact that they breed better?

00:50:09.000 Sure. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Larger breasts, larger ass means she's going to have more fat on her body. 1.00

00:50:12.000 She'll be healthier to take care of the baby. 0.98

00:50:14.000 The baby's going to burn off a tremendous amount of calories. 0.97

00:50:17.000 You want a healthy woman.

00:50:18.000 You don't want a sickly person.

00:50:19.000 If you see her ribs, that'll be unattractive because that means she's starving already. 0.99

00:50:23.000 She's not doing well.

00:50:24.000 No, I get that.

00:50:24.000 It's DNA. I'm not saying freaking eating disorder Amy over here and then thick Amy.

00:50:29.000 Right.

00:50:29.000 But there's a reason...

00:50:31.000 Why? 0.99

00:50:32.000 Guys are like, ooh, look at those big-ass titties. 1.00

00:50:34.000 Ass, too. 1.00

00:50:35.000 Why is the ass? 1.00

00:50:35.000 Why is it? 1.00

00:50:36.000 Because they're healthy.

00:50:37.000 Even animals, male animals, attract round surfaces.

00:50:41.000 Well, muscular. 0.99

00:50:43.000 You're also attracted to a big ass as the sign of great genetics. 1.00

00:50:47.000 It's just the reward. 1.00

00:50:49.000 More speed, more power, everything.

00:50:51.000 But then even when a girl gets surgery done and gets implants, I'm still cool. 0.95

00:50:56.000 I'm game.

00:50:57.000 Yeah, cool.

00:50:57.000 Yeah, you're letting your system get tricked.

00:51:02.000 You're letting your system get tricked. 0.99

00:51:03.000 Like fake tits. 1.00

00:51:04.000 Yeah, that's the thing. 1.00

00:51:05.000 With guys, fake tits and fake asses. 1.00

00:51:07.000 They actually do work. 1.00

00:51:10.000 We're so pathetic. 0.99

00:51:12.000 Our desire to just... 0.99

00:51:15.000 Departmentalize it and just get our loads out.

00:51:17.000 I know.

00:51:18.000 It's just like we're dealing with, like, pretend you were a ship, and the ship only had so much room for bullets on it. 1.00

00:51:26.000 You know, if you have too many bullets on it, the fucking ship's gonna sink. 0.98

00:51:30.000 Well, every day, a new shipment of bullets arrives. 0.99

00:51:33.000 And you know what? 0.98

00:51:34.000 Alright, we're just going to have to fucking be a little less choosy with our targets. 0.98

00:51:37.000 And you start shooting into the water, shooting in the sky. 0.99

00:51:40.000 You've got to get rid of bullets.

00:51:42.000 That's what it's like being a man. 1.00

00:51:43.000 Being a man is like being on a fucking battleship that's constantly receiving a new shipment of bullets. 1.00

00:51:50.000 And you're looking at the fucking notebook and you're like, fucking who ordered this? 1.00

00:51:55.000 Look at all the bullets we already have! 1.00

00:51:57.000 Oh, alright, alright.

00:51:58.000 Everybody on deck! 0.99

00:51:59.000 We gotta start fucking shooting the ocean again! 0.99

00:52:01.000 Everybody on deck! 1.00

00:52:02.000 Shit! 1.00

00:52:03.000 All hands on dick! 1.00

00:52:04.000 All hands on dick! 1.00

00:52:05.000 Well, that's why people who don't fire off their rounds on their own, they're not judicious about that. 0.99

00:52:10.000 What happens to them? 0.99

00:52:11.000 Well, they get hoodwinked in some shitbag relationship with some woman who controls how they cum. 1.00

00:52:15.000 You know, I've had friends with a girlfriend, won't let them jerk off. 1.00

00:52:20.000 Are you hearing me? 0.99

00:52:21.000 That's crazy.

00:52:23.000 Listen, I'll tell you right now, my friend tells me I'm going to say, have a good day, sir.

00:52:26.000 We are no longer friends.

00:52:27.000 Say it later.

00:52:29.000 Erase my number.

00:52:30.000 Have a good day, sir!

00:52:32.000 Never call me ever again.

00:52:34.000 I went to Alaska and we came across, it was so boring.

00:52:37.000 We went fishing.

00:52:37.000 Me and my dad lasted one day, by the way, fishing.

00:52:41.000 Why?

00:52:41.000 Because I don't know how to fish.

00:52:43.000 Oh, I'll hook you up with a guy.

00:52:45.000 We lost every lure.

00:52:46.000 Every lure.

00:52:46.000 In one hour, the guy goes, let's just put another lure on.

00:52:49.000 We go, oh, no, we don't have any more.

00:52:51.000 He goes, you lost them all?

00:52:52.000 You told this story on my podcast three different times.

00:52:54.000 The point I'm making is that we found a guy who had an arsenal.

00:52:57.000 He had an arsenal. 0.99

00:52:57.000 What does this have to do with chicks and blow up asses? 0.99

00:53:00.000 About shooting guns, same thing. 0.99

00:53:01.000 When you have a lot of ammo, he had crazy amounts of ammo and all kinds of machine guns and M1s.

00:53:08.000 I couldn't squeeze off enough rounds.

00:53:10.000 Like, day after day, I became completely desensitized. 0.55

00:53:13.000 I was trying to shoot everything.

00:53:15.000 I was like, what's that thing in the water?

00:53:16.000 Is that an otter?

00:53:17.000 That's very different than what we were talking about, but I see why you connected.

00:53:20.000 I see what you're saying.

00:53:21.000 I see what you're saying.

00:53:22.000 Is that a bad correlation? 0.97

00:53:23.000 We were talking about cum. 0.93

00:53:24.000 I saw a report where they say some guys... 0.99

00:53:27.000 Whoa, Jesus, what is that?

00:53:29.000 Who is that?

00:53:29.000 Is that Kim Kardashian?

00:53:30.000 That's Kim Kardashian.

00:53:31.000 Sign me up. 1.00

00:53:31.000 Okay, is that a real ass? 1.00

00:53:32.000 Yeah, it is. 0.99

00:53:33.000 What's going on there?

00:53:34.000 Are you sure?

00:53:35.000 Are you sure that hasn't been pumped up?

00:53:37.000 No.

00:53:38.000 I'm not sure.

00:53:38.000 Hey, guess what?

00:53:39.000 I don't care.

00:53:39.000 Who cares?

00:53:40.000 I do not care. 1.00

00:53:41.000 That's her real ass. 1.00

00:53:41.000 And those are her real tits. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Okay. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Yeah, sign me up. 1.00

00:53:44.000 Brian knows.

00:53:44.000 This is my...

00:53:45.000 So...

00:53:46.000 Yeah.

00:53:46.000 Whatever.

00:53:47.000 Might as well be.

00:53:47.000 Let's make it.

00:53:48.000 Yeah.

00:53:48.000 She's probably not even real.

00:53:49.000 Life is probably a gigantic hallucination in the first place.

00:53:53.000 A big hologram?

00:53:53.000 Yeah, some sort of mathematical program from space where we're on some computer simulation.

00:53:58.000 But if that is the case, you're creating essentially everything with your imagination that exists all around you.

00:54:02.000 It's intense.

00:54:02.000 So let's create her.

00:54:03.000 Let's let her be live. 0.98

00:54:05.000 Well...

00:54:05.000 The point I was making, I saw a report where it says some guys are wired where they just can't be faithful.

00:54:13.000 They're just not wired to be monogamous.

00:54:14.000 I wonder if that has anything to do with the same thing that they're talking about in this story with sperm being transferred from father to son.

00:54:24.000 I wonder if that's the case.

00:54:27.000 Because there's some things that they say, like the children of racists are almost inherently racist.

00:54:33.000 Not inherently racist, like unavoidably so, or they can't learn, but they'll tend to show racist tendencies more likely than someone who is an adopted child of someone who wasn't racist.

00:54:43.000 Really?

00:54:43.000 That's crazy.

00:54:44.000 Well, I think they're trying now to figure out exactly what makes a human being.

00:54:50.000 We don't know yet.

00:54:51.000 So when you see something like this with mice, and you gotta think, what's more complex, a mice or a person? 0.98

00:54:56.000 A person's way more fucking complex.

00:54:58.000 But if the underlying mechanisms like this, like what they're talking about... 1.00

00:55:02.000 Fuck the mice, man. 1.00

00:55:02.000 Mice does nothing for me. 1.00

00:55:03.000 But it doesn't, because what if you were a guy, and you got mugged by a black guy, and a black guy beat the shit out of you and took your wallet, and then you had a kid. 1.00

00:55:11.000 And your kid just fucking shrieks every time it sees black people. 1.00

00:55:15.000 I mean, that is real. 1.00

00:55:16.000 That's the same mechanism that would keep...

00:55:19.000 Look, there's a reason why Rupert Sheldrick had this analogy about kids and monsters.

00:55:24.000 Like, why is every kid afraid of a monster?

00:55:27.000 Even a kid who grows up in New York City.

00:55:28.000 Like, you should be afraid of car accidents, right?

00:55:30.000 You should be afraid of floods. 1.00

00:55:31.000 You should be afraid of a lot of shit that's real. 1.00

00:55:33.000 But kids are afraid of a monster in the dark. 1.00

00:55:35.000 Why?

00:55:36.000 Because our ancestors got eaten by jaguars.

00:55:39.000 We saw way, way back in the day before they figured out houses and spears.

00:55:43.000 All that come made the people of today.

00:55:45.000 And all that stuff's in there.

00:55:47.000 That's why some people have aphidiophobia.

00:55:49.000 Some people have arachnophobia.

00:55:50.000 They're afraid of snakes or they're afraid of spiders. 0.99

00:55:52.000 And it is fucking paralyzing. 0.99

00:55:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:55:54.000 Have you ever seen it? 0.99

00:55:55.000 From an evolutionary point of view, in this book, Why Evolution is True, why are people afraid of snakes?

00:56:00.000 And a lot of people, inherently, from all over the place, are afraid of snakes.

00:56:04.000 You take a fake snake, they've done all these experiments, right?

00:56:06.000 Where people get killed by cars way more often.

00:56:10.000 Why?

00:56:10.000 Well, primates, when they see a snake, will climb a tree.

00:56:13.000 They're afraid of snakes.

00:56:15.000 Good.

00:56:15.000 Smart move.

00:56:16.000 That's why they're still here.

00:56:17.000 They think it's an evolutionary memory.

00:56:19.000 Yeah.

00:56:20.000 That human beings have carried from when, you know, back...

00:56:23.000 Oh, really? 0.99

00:56:24.000 They did a whole fucking research where a guy... 1.00

00:56:27.000 Listen, snakes are scary as shit. 1.00

00:56:30.000 There's a reason, though. 1.00

00:56:31.000 No, yeah, because they have big little eyes and bite the shit out of me. 0.99

00:56:35.000 He's afraid of knowledge. 0.99

00:56:36.000 I know, he's panicking.

00:56:38.000 He's afraid of knowledge.

00:56:38.000 I've been in car wrecks.

00:56:40.000 No, you got into this thing right there where you're trying to anti-intellectualize the whole situation.

00:56:44.000 You're like, this is just, you're watching us go back and forth.

00:56:46.000 No, not at all, man. 0.99

00:56:47.000 And you're like, yeah, they're fucking scary! 0.99

00:56:49.000 Enough said! 0.99

00:56:51.000 No, not at all.

00:56:52.000 There's a reason, because a rattlesnake will bite you, correct?

00:56:55.000 Shake its tail, bite you. 0.93

00:56:57.000 How often have you seen a rattlesnake?

00:56:58.000 Maybe once in your life.

00:56:59.000 Primates, you don't even know that.

00:57:00.000 Primates don't even know that, and they declimatrate.

00:57:02.000 Yeah, almost immediately.

00:57:03.000 Yeah, because the thing's going to bite you.

00:57:05.000 Right, but they don't know that.

00:57:07.000 We're talking about things that have never been exposed to snakes.

00:57:09.000 They don't have a book to read.

00:57:10.000 Including people that have.

00:57:10.000 They don't have videos to watch.

00:57:12.000 They just see a snake and they go, whoa, I see it.

00:57:14.000 They see a snake with these huge fangs.

00:57:17.000 They don't see the fangs.

00:57:18.000 They don't see the fangs.

00:57:18.000 They don't know what that thing is.

00:57:19.000 It looks like a stick that moves.

00:57:20.000 People have a natural...

00:57:20.000 It's common sense.

00:57:21.000 You don't touch a snake that's red and yellow.

00:57:24.000 How would a monkey have common sense?

00:57:26.000 Common sense, Brennan.

00:57:27.000 Common sense.

00:57:28.000 Common sense is most likely genes.

00:57:29.000 Brennan, common sense would be be afraid, way more afraid of cars because they kill way more people a year than do snakes, right?

00:57:35.000 But people all over the globe...

00:57:36.000 We know cars.

00:57:37.000 We know cars.

00:57:38.000 People know snakes.

00:57:39.000 Not really.

00:57:40.000 What I'm saying is that we don't.

00:57:41.000 That's why we're terrified.

00:57:42.000 What are you talking about?

00:57:44.000 People don't know snakes?

00:57:45.000 No, they don't.

00:57:46.000 Wait a minute.

00:57:47.000 Come on, man.

00:57:48.000 People don't know what a snake is?

00:57:49.000 When's the last time you saw a snake?

00:57:51.000 I saw a rattlesnake in my yard two days ago.

00:57:53.000 Well, good for you, Joe.

00:57:54.000 You're around rattlesnakes all the time.

00:57:56.000 Well, everybody is in L.A. L.A., if you have a yard, it's very possible that you have rattlesnakes.

00:58:01.000 People know what snakes are the way they know what cars are.

00:58:02.000 In Marina Del Rey, you know how many rattlesnakes are?

00:58:04.000 Zero.

00:58:04.000 That's not true at all.

00:58:05.000 I haven't seen a rattlesnake in ten years.

00:58:07.000 When you go from your house to your car, trust me, you might not see a rattlesnake, but they're out there.

00:58:12.000 There's probably a very small population in your neighborhood.

00:58:16.000 They're all over the place.

00:58:17.000 You're missing the point.

00:58:17.000 Evolutionary scientists have realized that we have a natural, a human being seemed to have universally a phobia of snakes.

00:58:27.000 Because they have fangs and poisons. 0.99

00:58:29.000 Oh, silly goose. 0.98

00:58:30.000 They have a natural phobia of snakes and what that is probably is an evolutionary memory. 0.97

00:58:36.000 Joe's talking about how you create fear memory.

00:58:44.000 We're good to go.

00:58:59.000 Well, because they're scared of the unknown.

00:59:01.000 We're not just only scared of things that we see that are scary because our grandfathers got bitten by one.

00:59:06.000 We're also scared of the unknown.

00:59:07.000 We're scared of the dark, period.

00:59:08.000 I think it's a good theory, for sure, and it makes sense, but I think there's also some things where, listen, you know, if a predator walks in my room, I know him, like, hey, man, what's up?

00:59:17.000 Let's hang out.

00:59:18.000 No, no.

00:59:19.000 When children, when you go like this, to children, They start crying.

00:59:23.000 Little babies.

00:59:23.000 That scared me.

00:59:24.000 Why though?

00:59:25.000 Because it's a memory of being eaten.

00:59:27.000 It's a memory of being eaten.

00:59:28.000 So what they found is even infants, when you bury your teeth and go like this with your hands, you go and growl.

00:59:35.000 Low noises for infants.

00:59:36.000 That's why when men come into a room a lot of times, children, when they hear a low voice, especially when the person's talking loud, a man, they immediately are way more afraid of that than they are of a woman with a high voice.

00:59:47.000 Why is that?

00:59:48.000 Why do they start crying at strange men?

00:59:50.000 That is...

00:59:51.000 According to a lot of evolutionary biologists, that is a memory that you're actually born with.

00:59:57.000 What's that called?

00:59:58.000 Instinct, right?

00:59:59.000 I mean, it's a type of instinct. 0.96

01:00:00.000 Man, or the babies are scared because it's a giant-ass dude talking all loud.

01:00:05.000 You just chalk it up to that? 0.90

01:00:06.000 They're not afraid of TVs?

01:00:08.000 No, no. 1.00

01:00:09.000 Babies are afraid of a lot of shit. 1.00

01:00:10.000 They're afraid of things that don't make sense, like a lady's hat with a fucking giant feather. 1.00

01:00:14.000 They freak out because they think it's a poison snake. 0.98

01:00:16.000 I get the point you're making, and I think it's true, but I also think sometimes you just know.

01:00:21.000 You know what I think?

01:00:22.000 I think it's not either or.

01:00:23.000 I think it's both.

01:00:24.000 But what they're saying in this study is...

01:00:26.000 Learn and memorize.

01:00:27.000 What's been proven in this study, though, is pretty unavoidable.

01:00:31.000 If they're detecting the stress response to a very specific smell that they've created that they associated with electric shocks and then the children have that same reaction, that's pretty much proof.

01:00:42.000 But then how does this go back to a guy being faithful?

01:00:45.000 What I was saying is the same thing with racism.

01:00:48.000 I was saying that there's things that are even useless things that are passed on from generation to generation.

01:00:55.000 And I think at least at one point in time, there was a time where the human race is probably in jeopardy. 0.92

01:01:02.000 And it was probably ridiculous for one guy to have sex with one woman and hope that the race was going to keep going. 0.99

01:01:10.000 Everybody fucked as much as they could because half the babies got eaten by jaguars. 1.00

01:01:14.000 I mean, what are the odds of a fleshy little fucking shitty designed human... 1.00

01:01:19.000 Died of disease. 1.00

01:01:20.000 ...survive...

01:01:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:01:22.000 ...animal, wolves, fucking everything can eat you until you figure out weapons. 0.99

01:01:28.000 Then you have to band together and that doesn't work out. 1.00

01:01:31.000 Look...

01:01:31.000 It's a hard road for a long time for people to make it this far.

01:01:35.000 Now, it's so out of control that we're overwhelming.

01:01:38.000 The population is overwhelming the resources of the planet and will continue to grow at this rate or an exponential rate.

01:01:46.000 But a long time ago, man, it was tough to keep people alive.

01:01:49.000 During the Roman times, it was a 50% infant mortality rate.

01:01:54.000 50%.

01:01:54.000 If you had two kids, one of them was going to die for sure.

01:01:57.000 And you just had to deal with that.

01:01:59.000 So they're just... 0.97

01:02:00.000 Having sex with whoever. 0.98

01:02:01.000 It was cool. 0.98

01:02:02.000 They were mad-dogging it because they were trying to keep the race alive.

01:02:05.000 You know, one of the things that they found when they were going over the Dead Sea Scrolls was that the Dead Sea Scrolls is the oldest stories of the Bible that are known.

01:02:14.000 It's the only form of the Bible that's written in Aramaic, and they found it in these scrolls in Qumran.

01:02:20.000 It was written on animal skins and left in these caves and these ceramic pots.

01:02:27.000 We're good to go.

01:02:57.000 Every chick we can. 0.60

01:02:58.000 We're just shooting loads into everybody.

01:03:00.000 So Miguel was like, let's do this.

01:03:02.000 And those are the men that made it.

01:03:03.000 The men that made it, the humans that made it, were the ones that had this evolutionary trait.

01:03:08.000 And conversely, by the way...

01:03:10.000 And you're saying that trait's carried on.

01:03:11.000 Yes, well that trait exists in primates.

01:03:13.000 All primates.

01:03:14.000 But I don't think at all.

01:03:15.000 I don't think at all.

01:03:16.000 Yes, it does.

01:03:17.000 I think some still have it.

01:03:18.000 No, it exists in all primates, every single primate.

01:03:20.000 The only primate that's ever been observed to even try to be monogamous is a human being.

01:03:26.000 All the monkeys, the gorillas have harems, and the gorillas have such a domination over the females that the females never cheat. 0.95

01:03:33.000 So because of this, the gorillas' dicks have shrunk to the size of an inch. 0.99

01:03:37.000 That's too bad. 0.99

01:03:37.000 Gorillas have tiny little dicks. 0.99

01:03:39.000 That's so weird, I know. 1.00

01:03:39.000 And tiny little balls. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Tiny little dicks. 1.00

01:03:41.000 But chimp bitches are whores. 1.00

01:03:44.000 Chimps are sluts. 1.00

01:03:45.000 So chimps have giant balls and giant dicks. 1.00

01:03:48.000 But not as big as humans. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Human beings are the most promiscuous. 0.99

01:03:52.000 And there's a direct correlation between female promiscuity and male testicular size. 0.99

01:03:57.000 Really? 0.97

01:03:58.000 Yes. 1.00

01:03:58.000 The bigger the balls, the more likely the male is surrounded by a bunch of... 1.00

01:04:05.000 Love the dick. 1.00

01:04:06.000 So your body recognizes this and the competition builds up. 1.00

01:04:10.000 So you come more, you build up more.

01:04:13.000 There's a bunch of faulty conclusions reached by a book called Sperm Wars.

01:04:17.000 And this book is basically, there's a lot of junk science attached to it. 0.99

01:04:21.000 And a lot of it was about these killer sperm that attack sperm and kill them. 0.99

01:04:25.000 But they've never been able to conclusively prove that sperm have any properties other than trying to get someone pregnant. 0.99

01:04:31.000 There's never been proven that there's sperm that are attacking other sperm, or any mechanism in which they kill other sperm, but what has been proven is your dick is shaped a certain way, okay? 1.00

01:04:40.000 And the big fat head at the end is a goddamn plunger. 1.00

01:04:44.000 And like the evolutionary design, a dude's got a little dickhead, you ever see a porn and the guy's got a little head and you're like, this poor bastard, what are you gonna do with that thing? 1.00

01:04:53.000 Exactly! 1.00

01:04:53.000 Because evolutionary, we look at that the same way we look at a big ass or big tits, like that's not a good design. 1.00

01:05:00.000 Look at that little fat dick with a little head. 1.00

01:05:02.000 You're a mess. 1.00

01:05:03.000 You're not plunging anything out of there. 1.00

01:05:05.000 You can bang my girl. 0.96

01:05:06.000 I'm not jealous. 0.99

01:05:07.000 You're plunging. 1.00

01:05:09.000 You're using this big fat dickhead, the bigger the better, to squirt out all the other dude's sperm. 1.00

01:05:14.000 And then with the hood of the hooker, it pulls it out. 1.00

01:05:19.000 And then you shoot your own in there. 0.99

01:05:21.000 This is intense.

01:05:21.000 It's intense, but that's the design of the human being.

01:05:24.000 Everyone's dick is a plunger. 1.00

01:05:26.000 Yeah, everyone's digging the plunger. 1.00

01:05:27.000 A plunger and a hook.

01:05:28.000 And that's real.

01:05:29.000 Are there any anteaters in here? 0.99

01:05:31.000 Anyone have a hood hanging over their dick? 1.00

01:05:32.000 Not me. 1.00

01:05:33.000 No?

01:05:34.000 Me neither.

01:05:34.000 Joey Diaz has one.

01:05:35.000 You know what?

01:05:36.000 I didn't know this, but in England, most of them have the hoods.

01:05:40.000 I didn't know that.

01:05:41.000 Well, it should be.

01:05:42.000 It's genital mutation.

01:05:43.000 I agree.

01:05:44.000 It really is.

01:05:46.000 Because my coach, Tony Jeffries, in Santa Monica, he's having a baby.

01:05:49.000 I said, man, if it's a boy, you're going to cut the hood off, right?

01:05:51.000 It's weird to leave it on there.

01:05:53.000 He goes, no!

01:05:54.000 He goes, who cuts their hood off?

01:05:56.000 I go, Uh, everybody?

01:05:58.000 Haven't you ever seen a portal?

01:05:59.000 But they do say that you're better at keeping...

01:06:02.000 No studies.

01:06:03.000 No studies whatsoever. 0.98

01:06:05.000 All junk science. 1.00

01:06:05.000 All horseshit. 1.00

01:06:06.000 All propaganda. 0.99

01:06:08.000 You know, a lot of it is...

01:06:09.000 A religious thing, right? 0.99

01:06:10.000 It's a little bit of a religious thing, but it's also, I believe that they're preparing for a giant backlash of babies who've had their dicks sliced. 0.99

01:06:17.000 Because if circumcision was proven to be genital mutilation and stopped, then guess what you opened the door for? 0.98

01:06:24.000 Lawsuits!

01:06:25.000 If everybody just decides to go apeshit on the American Medical Association or anybody who allowed essentially a non-beneficial genital mutilation to be the norm.

01:06:36.000 To be the norm.

01:06:38.000 For real.

01:06:38.000 Do you know what kind of backlash there would be?

01:06:40.000 This is not a propaganda or rather a conspiracy theory sort of an idea.

01:06:46.000 This is the reality of what's going on.

01:06:48.000 Genital mutilation on a wide scale that's completely unnecessary that has no health benefit.

01:06:53.000 What's weird is in a locker room, NFL, college locker room, if you had a hood, you were the outcast. 1.00

01:06:58.000 We made fun of your dick. 0.99

01:07:01.000 But Tony was saying in England, if you didn't have a hood, you got made fun of. 1.00

01:07:05.000 I bet.

01:07:05.000 It's weird, right?

01:07:06.000 Well, one's natural and the other's not, right? 0.98

01:07:08.000 Yeah, well, it's also like we were talking about with the plates and the lip and all that shit. 0.98

01:07:12.000 It's just whatever the culture decides is the norm. 1.00

01:07:15.000 And the culture's decided that cutting your dick... 1.00

01:07:18.000 That has to hurt. 1.00

01:07:19.000 It has to hurt the baby.

01:07:19.000 I think, though, you have a better chance of not contacting, like, gonorrhea and things like that.

01:07:25.000 I think that's all false.

01:07:26.000 Is that true?

01:07:27.000 There is no medical society in the world that has recognized any real health benefits to circumcision. 1.00

01:07:35.000 It's all bullshit. 0.99

01:07:36.000 Not only that, the risks include infection, hemorrhage, scarring, difficulty urinating, loss of part or all of the penis, and even death. 0.99

01:07:45.000 Circumcision complications can also and do occur even in the best clinical settings.

01:07:51.000 I think the producer's back here.

01:07:52.000 You're a little too smiley over there, fellas.

01:07:53.000 You got some hoods back here?

01:07:55.000 More than one baby this decade has died in New York because the rabbis, these really heavy religious Jewish dudes, insist on using the mohel, who uses the traditional method of circumcision, 0.99

01:08:12.000 where they circumcise the baby and then suck its penis to stop the bleeding. 0.99

01:08:16.000 And these rabbis have had herpes. 1.00

01:08:18.000 I feel sick. 0.97

01:08:19.000 And given herpes to the babies.

01:08:21.000 They refuse to stop this because this is a religious procedure.

01:08:25.000 There's moyels online, rabbis online, they're doing these videos on like the Jewish name for what that procedure is and how it's written in the Torah and this is why you should do it that way. 0.99

01:08:37.000 I feel sick.

01:08:37.000 And this is why it's a traditional way.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, could you imagine?

01:08:40.000 Here's the test that the universe has given you.

01:08:43.000 We're all following different patterns.

01:08:46.000 I mean, Brian, you've got a nice golf shirt on.

01:08:47.000 I have Converse All-Stars.

01:08:49.000 We're all following patterns, right?

01:08:50.000 Here's the pattern. 0.99

01:08:51.000 The pattern is, there's a fucking ancient religion that was written back when people thought the world was flat. 1.00

01:08:56.000 All the fucking rules were written down on animal skins and fucking chicken scratch that you can't even read today. 1.00

01:09:02.000 And it says you could suck baby dicks. 1.00

01:09:04.000 You cut their dicks and then you suck them. 1.00

01:09:07.000 Could you imagine? 1.00

01:09:08.000 Imagine if that didn't exist and you tried to propose that today.

01:09:11.000 Why does that say that in the end?

01:09:11.000 Is that true?

01:09:12.000 Abso-fucking-lutely. 0.95

01:09:14.000 That's what Moyle's doing. 1.00

01:09:14.000 I will show you a video. 1.00

01:09:15.000 You want to see a video?

01:09:16.000 Yeah, but is that in the Old Testament? 1.00

01:09:17.000 Play a video where the Moyle explains about sucking a penis after circumcision. 1.00

01:09:24.000 It's one of the most horrific things... 0.99

01:09:25.000 Are you sure this isn't the internet or this is a...

01:09:27.000 No, no, no, no.

01:09:28.000 Ari told me too.

01:09:29.000 I talked to Ari about it who was raised incredibly religious. 0.99

01:09:32.000 Ari studied the Torah 12 hours a day and he watched all this shit and he said, yeah, what the guy's saying is true. 0.99

01:09:39.000 He's seen it? 1.00

01:09:39.000 I don't know if he's seen it, but I bet it happened to him. 1.00

01:09:42.000 One of the things that John Durant, who wrote the Paleo Manifesto, did my podcast, talked about was the Old Testament with the obsession of washing.

01:09:49.000 He calls Moses the first microbiologist, the idea of a guy who...

01:09:53.000 They were obsessed with keeping things clean.

01:09:55.000 I don't know.

01:09:55.000 Find out if the guy's talking about it.

01:09:57.000 I mean, read the descriptions or listen to it. 1.00

01:09:59.000 The guy's talking about sucking on a penis. 1.00

01:10:02.000 I'll tell you right now. 1.00

01:10:03.000 Just pull up. 1.00

01:10:04.000 Circumcision rabbi sucking penis. 1.00

01:10:06.000 I bet you'll find it. 1.00

01:10:06.000 I don't have any kids. 1.00

01:10:07.000 If I did, the doctor touched my kid's dick. 1.00

01:10:09.000 He's getting... 1.00

01:10:10.000 Well, a doctor is supposed to touch a kid's dick to make sure everything's okay. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Not with his mouth, son! 1.00

01:10:15.000 This guy, first of all, A, he's not a doctor. 1.00

01:10:17.000 He's a fucking religious nut. 1.00

01:10:19.000 He's a cult member. 1.00

01:10:20.000 That's what that guy is.

01:10:21.000 I mean, if there was no religious...

01:10:23.000 That's extreme.

01:10:24.000 That's not extreme at all. 1.00

01:10:26.000 If there was no religion, if religion didn't exist, and some guy came along and dressed like a fucking spaceman and wanted to suck baby dicks, he'd be like, well, that guy's in a cult. 0.99

01:10:35.000 But because it's around for a thousand years, it's not a cult? 1.00

01:10:38.000 Oh, it's a religion. 1.00

01:10:39.000 It's a fucking cult. 1.00

01:10:40.000 Anytime you can get people to adhere to an ideology, that you have to look to the stars to find your fucking answers in some magical man who has rules like not mixing meat with milk and cutting baby dicks. 1.00

01:10:53.000 A lot of those rules, John Durant just wrote this book. 0.98

01:10:57.000 A lot of those rules were very practical back in the day.

01:10:59.000 Not eating pork was because you didn't want to get trichinosis.

01:11:01.000 Sexual laws, the restrictions on sex were just because you didn't want to catch syphilis and things back in the day. 0.98

01:11:07.000 There's no cutting and baby dick sense. 0.96

01:11:10.000 I don't know anything about that. 1.00

01:11:12.000 Cutting, sucking, baby dick, all that doesn't work. 1.00

01:11:14.000 I know that comes from Moses when he cut his own penis to show his subservience to God in the Old Testament. 1.00

01:11:19.000 That's a very weird way to... 1.00

01:11:22.000 You ever had a friend break a dick? 0.99

01:11:24.000 I heard of that before. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Had a friend break a dick. 0.99

01:11:26.000 Had to rush him to the emergency room. 0.98

01:11:28.000 Does it ever get fixed totally or is it always kind of hooked?

01:11:31.000 It kind of curves to the left a little bit. 0.97

01:11:34.000 His balls literally internal bleeding filled up. 0.97

01:11:37.000 It looked like purple gecko skin. 1.00

01:11:39.000 That's why you gotta be careful with crazy bitches. 1.00

01:11:41.000 You gotta get double underhooks on crazy bitch. 1.00

01:11:43.000 You do, man. 1.00

01:11:43.000 If a crazy bitch is riding you, you gotta hold their ass, but like a firm Muay Thai, you know how you got that plum? 1.00

01:11:49.000 Like a plum. 1.00

01:11:50.000 Yeah.

01:11:50.000 You can't just do this, because if you do this, there's too much lateral room.

01:11:54.000 Yep.

01:11:54.000 This room feels too much.

01:11:56.000 Keep her down. 0.99

01:11:57.000 I got to tell a story.

01:11:58.000 You got a baby gable grip, the lower hips.

01:12:00.000 That's a good move, too.

01:12:01.000 My buddy is huge.

01:12:02.000 You've met this guy.

01:12:02.000 I'm not going to say his name on air.

01:12:04.000 This guy's 6'6", 270, shredding.

01:12:07.000 I'm giving away his weight.

01:12:08.000 People are going to figure out who he is.

01:12:09.000 Nah, they won't figure out who he is.

01:12:10.000 So he tells me, he goes, bro, this girl wants it so hard.

01:12:14.000 He goes, I don't know what to do.

01:12:15.000 I go, how hard?

01:12:16.000 He goes, I'm going to film it next time.

01:12:18.000 I don't know.

01:12:19.000 So he films it, and it's one of the most disturbing videos I've ever seen.

01:12:24.000 I mean, he's getting air, like, wham!

01:12:27.000 Wham!

01:12:27.000 I'm like, dang!

01:12:28.000 A week later, he calls and he goes, dude, get over here.

01:12:32.000 I rush over.

01:12:34.000 He's on the ground, butt naked.

01:12:35.000 I go, what's the matter?

01:12:36.000 He goes, that video I showed you, I was backing up, missed. 1.00

01:12:39.000 My penis hit her ass cheek. 1.00

01:12:41.000 Oh! 1.00

01:12:42.000 Broke his dick. 1.00

01:12:43.000 Oh my god! 1.00

01:12:45.000 So this is what I tell him.

01:12:46.000 I go, bro, this is an easy fix, right?

01:12:48.000 I have no idea how to handle this.

01:12:51.000 Dr. Schaub.

01:12:52.000 Yeah, Dr. Schaub in the house.

01:12:53.000 Big Brown Dr. Schaub in the house.

01:12:54.000 I know, this is an easy fix.

01:12:55.000 I'm going to step out of the room. 0.98

01:12:56.000 You put a little porno on. 0.99

01:12:58.000 You get erect, we're just going to line it right back up. 0.99

01:13:01.000 You can line it right back up.

01:13:02.000 Just like you fix a broken nose, right?

01:13:03.000 That's a great strategy.

01:13:05.000 Right?

01:13:06.000 Right?

01:13:06.000 It makes sense.

01:13:07.000 That's a great strategy.

01:13:08.000 I walked out of the room.

01:13:09.000 Ten minutes later, I hear... 0.99

01:13:10.000 I'm like, oh shit. 0.99

01:13:13.000 So I call my doctor, buddy. 1.00

01:13:14.000 I'm like, yo man, my buddy was hooking up with this girl. 1.00

01:13:18.000 Broke his dick. 1.00

01:13:18.000 He goes, well, are Tesco's big? 1.00

01:13:21.000 I go, yeah, man, they're pretty big.

01:13:22.000 I go, let me see your Tesco's, man.

01:13:23.000 Shows me.

01:13:24.000 These things are the size of a grapefruit and looks like ghetto purple-dotted skin all over. 1.00

01:13:29.000 I rushed him to the merch room because of internal bleeding, and people thought we were just two gays.

01:13:37.000 You know, we're both big dudes. 0.92

01:13:38.000 Two giant gay men. 0.97

01:13:40.000 Both big dudes. 0.99

01:13:41.000 I'm not making this up.

01:13:43.000 I wish I could make this up.

01:13:45.000 He's straddled in a gurney like this, right?

01:13:47.000 He's like this.

01:13:49.000 Things hanging down.

01:13:50.000 It's filling up.

01:13:51.000 Talking to the mic.

01:13:51.000 This nurse comes in.

01:13:53.000 Hey, boys. 0.98

01:13:55.000 Flaming, flaming gay guy, right? 1.00

01:13:57.000 Which is whatever. 1.00

01:13:58.000 I'm cool with that.

01:13:59.000 Right.

01:13:59.000 Legs up in a straddle.

01:14:00.000 If this is his broken penis, this dude's like this. 1.00

01:14:04.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:14:06.000 Yeah.

01:14:07.000 Yeah, this is pretty bad.

01:14:08.000 Listen, we'll get a doctor and we'll be right back. 0.99

01:14:11.000 And he's doing that to his balls? 0.99

01:14:12.000 And I'm like, what is going on here? 0.99

01:14:14.000 Leaves.

01:14:15.000 Doc comes in.

01:14:16.000 Old dude.

01:14:17.000 I'm like, oh, thank God.

01:14:18.000 Doc comes in and he goes, yeah, man, this is really bad.

01:14:21.000 Yeah, the nurse was kind of, you know, he's grabbing him, man, and saying how bad he goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 0.99

01:14:30.000 A nurse physically touched his penis. 1.00

01:14:33.000 I go, touched. 1.00

01:14:35.000 It was like a freaking telescope. 1.00

01:14:39.000 This guy was, I mean, nose deep on his dick. 1.00

01:14:43.000 And he goes, wow, I need to get the name of that guy because that is not... 1.00

01:14:53.000 He's got an app on his phone, and when anybody gets administered to the hospital with a broken dick, he fucking shows up, puts on his lab coats. 0.98

01:15:04.000 This urologist comes in, and I go, I gotta be honest, man. 1.00

01:15:08.000 How did you get into basically majoring in dicks? 0.97

01:15:11.000 Like, what road did you go down? 0.96

01:15:12.000 And he said in Egypt or someplace in Egypt where there's a religion. 0.96

01:15:17.000 They might be Muslim, I'm not sure, but they get erections. 1.00

01:15:19.000 They think it's Satan's work and they break their dicks. 1.00

01:15:22.000 That's not Muslim religion. 1.00

01:15:25.000 That might be... 0.98

01:15:25.000 Well, no, it's an extremist Muslim. 0.98

01:15:27.000 He was saying they're Muslim. 1.00

01:15:28.000 It just sounds like a dumb person. 1.00

01:15:30.000 Well, whatever it is, it's another crazy call. 0.99

01:15:34.000 But he was saying, and these guys need help, so he got into it because he was exposed to it.

01:15:39.000 So these guys think it's Satan's work, the devil's work. 0.93

01:15:42.000 They get erections. 1.00

01:15:43.000 Snap their dicks. 1.00

01:15:44.000 And a lot of them die from internal bleeding. 1.00

01:15:46.000 They rush doctors down there. 0.91

01:15:48.000 So most urologists go down to this part of the world to fix it.

01:15:52.000 Anyways, my buddy, he's all good now.

01:15:56.000 They updated my friend, all good. 0.99

01:15:57.000 They gave him pills so he couldn't get an erection for six weeks and his dick was in a splint. 0.99

01:16:01.000 Really? 1.00

01:16:02.000 A splint?

01:16:03.000 A splint.

01:16:03.000 So now it just has a hook.

01:16:05.000 A slight hook or a big one?

01:16:08.000 Is it noticeable?

01:16:09.000 Oh, it's definitely noticeable.

01:16:10.000 What's that operation? 1.00

01:16:11.000 You can cut the tendon and it makes your dick longer? 1.00

01:16:14.000 But sometimes your dick gets hard and it goes straight down sometimes. 1.00

01:16:18.000 That was the complication. 1.00

01:16:20.000 How much longer could it make? 0.99

01:16:21.000 You've got to jerk off downward, huh? 0.99

01:16:23.000 How much longer could it make? 0.99

01:16:24.000 Like an inch to two inches. 1.00

01:16:26.000 Is your dick that small? 1.00

01:16:27.000 Yeah, an inch to two inches. 1.00

01:16:28.000 You can cut a tendon that will actually create more length to your dick. 0.99

01:16:32.000 But the problem was that for whatever reason, the tendon is one of the instrumental tendons in keeping it very erect. 0.98

01:16:39.000 You would think they would build some sort of implant for that by now.

01:16:42.000 They have implants for everything else. 0.99

01:16:43.000 People are so fucking weird. 1.00

01:16:45.000 We're so weird that we'd be willing to cut our dick to stretch it out an inch. 1.00

01:16:48.000 Well, you know, guys, if you could get fake dicks, it's like the way women get fake tits. 1.00

01:16:51.000 Guys would be walking around with 15-inch dicks. 1.00

01:16:53.000 No, they wouldn't because women wouldn't want it. 1.00

01:16:55.000 See, there's a big difference.

01:16:56.000 That's why guys aren't allowed to wear toupees.

01:16:58.000 And girls can wear wigs. 0.99

01:17:00.000 We don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:17:00.000 Girls can have fake tits. 1.00

01:17:01.000 Who cares? 1.00

01:17:02.000 If a guy has fake shoulders... 0.99

01:17:05.000 Imagine if a guy was walking around with fucking fake shoulders, and you're like, oh my god, I love your shoulders, and you're like, squanch, squanch. 1.00

01:17:11.000 They're like fucking fake tits. 1.00

01:17:12.000 They sell shirts like that. 1.00

01:17:13.000 They do?

01:17:15.000 Yeah.

01:17:15.000 They sell shirts like that.

01:17:17.000 You've looked into it.

01:17:18.000 You've looked into it.

01:17:19.000 I did a World's Dumbest, and it was one of the inventions.

01:17:23.000 Oh, that's hilarious. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Well, they have pants that women wear that suck everything tight to their ass. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Spanx. 1.00

01:17:29.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:17:30.000 Yeah, that's what they're called, right?

01:17:31.000 They're all made in millions.

01:17:32.000 But isn't that crazy? 1.00

01:17:33.000 Women can have fake tits. 1.00

01:17:34.000 Women can have a lot of fake things. 1.00

01:17:36.000 Hair extensions.

01:17:36.000 Does not bother me at all.

01:17:38.000 We don't care because we're trying to fuck as many of them as possible. 1.00

01:17:41.000 That's what the monkey DNA wants to do. 1.00

01:17:44.000 So when the monkey has no problem with the fake tits, they're like, that's great for now. 0.97

01:17:47.000 Let's go! 0.98

01:17:48.000 Or they're like, hey, I like it. 0.99

01:17:50.000 It fucking sticks out the way I like it. 1.00

01:17:53.000 Your DNA is so scrambled. 1.00

01:17:55.000 Whereas the woman looks at you with your fake shoulders like, aww. 1.00

01:17:58.000 That's weak shit. 1.00

01:18:00.000 Motherfucker can't even grow a shoulder! 1.00

01:18:03.000 Oh, you're not coming in me! 1.00

01:18:05.000 Women want utility. 1.00

01:18:07.000 You've got to be able to get the job done.

01:18:08.000 They want utility. 0.99

01:18:09.000 Men like things that are static, that look good, that we can grab and fuck. 1.00

01:18:13.000 But women need... 1.00

01:18:14.000 I mean, I'm saying evolutionarily, I would imagine women need... 1.00

01:18:17.000 You've got to go out there and actually hunt something while I'm taking care of the kids. 0.99

01:18:20.000 And if you've got fake shoulders, they're going to help you catch that deer shit. 1.00

01:18:23.000 Well, not only that, you're like a weak person that's not able to, like... 1.00

01:18:26.000 Completely look at reality. 0.99

01:18:29.000 This is why you can see a hot chick with a pretty crappy dude. 1.00

01:18:33.000 You never can see a great looking dude with a real ugly girl. 1.00

01:18:38.000 That's true. 1.00

01:18:38.000 Well, you do if he's gay. 1.00

01:18:40.000 But you also see these guys that are with these girls and the girl is way better looking than the guy.

01:18:49.000 Younger, probably.

01:18:50.000 He's a sugar daddy.

01:18:51.000 Yeah, you see that a lot.

01:18:53.000 Yeah, but a lot of times women are attracted to a guy because he's good at something.

01:18:56.000 Like, if a guy's really good at something and he's not that good looking, women find that very attractive.

01:19:00.000 So, you get a guy who's just...

01:19:01.000 Someone's older! 0.70

01:19:02.000 No, but you get a guy who's Someone's older!

01:19:06.000 No, I mean, if you're like really funny and you got really good skill, man, you can still get those young girls and they're naturally into you.

01:19:12.000 Wrong! 0.86

01:19:13.000 Wrong! 0.86

01:19:13.000 Because Billy, who works at the arcade, who's jacked, has no skill. 0.86

01:19:18.000 She's going to take Billy that works at the arcade over you who has a skill.

01:19:21.000 You say that, but then you see David Spade with a dime.

01:19:25.000 Yeah.

01:19:25.000 You know?

01:19:26.000 Because he's funny.

01:19:27.000 Yeah, and he's also rich and famous.

01:19:29.000 Funny, rich, you know, good at something.

01:19:31.000 Fame's tough.

01:19:32.000 Fame is different.

01:19:33.000 There are a lot of good rock and rollers.

01:19:34.000 That's when you get the chicken heads.

01:19:36.000 That's where chicken heads come in. 0.98

01:19:37.000 There are a lot of guys not looking back and playing.

01:19:39.000 Yeah, chicken heads.

01:19:40.000 What's that mean?

01:19:40.000 Chicken heads, like girls, just fame.

01:19:42.000 You know, girl, they're just bimbos, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:19:45.000 Oh, chicken heads.

01:19:46.000 Chicken heads.

01:19:47.000 But you said that as if we would know what you mean.

01:19:49.000 Oh, yeah.

01:19:50.000 I thought you would!

01:19:51.000 Did you know what he meant?

01:19:52.000 Chicken heads?

01:19:53.000 I've heard him use the expression before, but it is a weird expression. 0.99

01:19:55.000 Chicken head is a female who likes cock. 1.00

01:19:57.000 A female who likes giving head. 1.00

01:19:59.000 This is in the Urban Dictionary.

01:20:02.000 A dance move.

01:20:03.000 Bobbing up and down like a chicken, and it's a dance move.

01:20:05.000 Well, Brendan Schaub's got his own definition of chicken head.

01:20:08.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:20:09.000 I get it.

01:20:09.000 But if a guy can play the guitar really well and he's not that good looking, he's getting laid.

01:20:13.000 Amy Schumer had a strange thing we were talking about last night, being a girl. 1.00

01:20:17.000 She was talking about how being a girl sucks because you have an expiration date on the time where people want to fuck you. 1.00

01:20:23.000 For sure. 1.00

01:20:24.000 And it's running. 1.00

01:20:25.000 It's like a clock that's running from the moment you realize that sex is important until nobody wants to fuck you anymore. 1.00

01:20:30.000 Ready? 1.00

01:20:31.000 Go.

01:20:31.000 TikTok, TikTok, TikTok.

01:20:32.000 I heard my grandmother talking about how devastating it was the first time she realized men stopped looking at her.

01:20:38.000 She said she realized she was finally old when she walked by a group of construction workers and not one of them looked up.

01:20:45.000 And she said that was when...

01:20:46.000 And she was with other older women and they all went, yep, I remember that day too.

01:20:51.000 And I remember my heart broke when I was about 15 or 16 and I remember looking at it and I went, man, that's a tough day.

01:20:57.000 Meanwhile, Sophia Loren... 1.00

01:20:59.000 I had some girl tell me, don't waste my time because I'm in my prime.

01:21:03.000 I have three more years left.

01:21:05.000 She's smart.

01:21:06.000 Don't waste my time.

01:21:08.000 I had a girl tell me I wasted a year of my life with you when I didn't want to keep dating.

01:21:13.000 I was like, okay.

01:21:14.000 Now I go, you just totally let me know that I made the right decision.

01:21:17.000 For sure.

01:21:17.000 When they say that, yes.

01:21:19.000 I thought we dated and went to dinner and had a lot of fun.

01:21:22.000 And I thought, just like all my other friends, I enjoyed your company.

01:21:24.000 I didn't know that you were investing.

01:21:26.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:21:27.000 We're fucking in our 20s, you know? 0.96

01:21:29.000 I was like 23 or something like that. 0.98

01:21:31.000 I was like, I wasted it.

01:21:32.000 Jesus Christ, this is crazy.

01:21:33.000 Because a lot of girls are raised to think, you know, you've got to... 0.99

01:21:37.000 I mean, even my own mother, who's a really smart woman, said to my sister when she went to get her MBA, she went, hey, listen, you're going to get your MBA. That's great.

01:21:45.000 Work on your MRS as well, you know?

01:21:47.000 What's that?

01:21:48.000 Oh, Mrs. Oh, God. 0.99

01:21:50.000 Well, I tell Brian all the time.

01:21:52.000 Well, we talk about this.

01:21:53.000 Me and Brian talk about relationships all the time.

01:21:55.000 I'll talk to Brian.

01:21:56.000 I'm like, man, I'm a little stressed out.

01:21:58.000 Shouldn't I be having kids or doing something here?

01:22:00.000 Shouldn't I be coming home with a wife making food and stuff? 1.00

01:22:03.000 And Brian goes, no, man.

01:22:04.000 That's what society wants you to do.

01:22:05.000 That's the norm.

01:22:06.000 That's what everyone...

01:22:08.000 Yeah, I've had this conversation with people who ask me because they know I love having kids.

01:22:13.000 And they go, do you think that everyone should have a kid?

01:22:15.000 If I didn't have a kid, would I still be happy?

01:22:17.000 And I said, absolutely not everybody shouldn't have a kid.

01:22:20.000 I go, you can be a great person, have a great life, infect a great amount of people around you, be a joy to be around, contribute every step of the way, be a great example, inspire people, and never have kids.

01:22:32.000 100%.

01:22:32.000 You don't have to.

01:22:33.000 It doesn't make you better, but people take this goddamn self-righteous attitude when they do have kids, and I resent it. 0.98

01:22:39.000 Me too. 0.98

01:22:39.000 And I have kids, and I love my kids. 0.98

01:22:42.000 I would never trade being a father for anything.

01:22:45.000 It's a fantastic experience.

01:22:47.000 But have a kid when you are ready, and have a kid if you feel something's missing.

01:22:50.000 Or don't.

01:22:50.000 How about this?

01:22:51.000 Or don't.

01:22:52.000 Or don't.

01:22:52.000 It doesn't matter.

01:22:54.000 It's a great thing for me.

01:22:55.000 I enjoy it, but you don't have to.

01:22:57.000 I know a lot, like my friend Chris Ryan, Dr. Chris Ryan who wrote Sex at Dawn.

01:23:01.000 He made a conscious decision when he was younger.

01:23:03.000 No kids.

01:23:04.000 He wanted to travel the world.

01:23:05.000 He lived in Barcelona.

01:23:06.000 I mean, he wrote books.

01:23:07.000 He decided he had a life that he wanted to live.

01:23:10.000 You ready for this?

01:23:11.000 It pisses me off when people don't like kids.

01:23:13.000 Really?

01:23:14.000 Why?

01:23:14.000 No, my brother don't like kids and it drives me nuts.

01:23:16.000 Why does it drive you nuts?

01:23:16.000 Because he loves them.

01:23:17.000 Give something back, man.

01:23:18.000 You put on this earth to procreate. 0.75

01:23:20.000 Give something back.

01:23:21.000 Oh, I don't know about all that.

01:23:22.000 Why are you put on this earth to procreate?

01:23:25.000 For the exact same reason, homeboy, before they were all dying, was building the population.

01:23:29.000 Not everybody has that much to offer.

01:23:31.000 How about somebody who is basically unhappy with their life?

01:23:35.000 Should they have kids? 1.00

01:23:39.000 Damn it! 1.00

01:23:39.000 Too much stevia again. 1.00

01:23:40.000 Yeah, watch how I do, bro.

01:23:42.000 This is the super stuff.

01:23:43.000 That's what I do.

01:23:44.000 There's more of these.

01:23:45.000 Grab another one.

01:23:46.000 The whole formula, man.

01:23:47.000 Grab another one, man.

01:23:47.000 Callan ain't gonna drink all this.

01:23:48.000 He doesn't even drink it.

01:23:49.000 He gave up already.

01:23:50.000 He's falling asleep.

01:23:51.000 Look at him over there.

01:23:51.000 I'm all sensitive.

01:23:53.000 I have one cup.

01:23:54.000 I'm like, ooh, I feel shaky.

01:23:55.000 I know what you're saying.

01:23:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:23:57.000 That you think that there's a good thing to do if you're a good person.

01:24:00.000 Well, I just don't like people like, well, I like clothes.

01:24:02.000 I like shopping.

01:24:02.000 I like my vacations.

01:24:03.000 I don't want kids.

01:24:04.000 Why is that bad?

01:24:05.000 You know what?

01:24:05.000 Lose my number.

01:24:06.000 You're not my friend anymore.

01:24:07.000 Whoa.

01:24:07.000 How dare you?

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:08.000 But why is that bad?

01:24:10.000 Why do you care what other people like and don't like?

01:24:12.000 I don't know.

01:24:12.000 I just care, man.

01:24:12.000 I don't know.

01:24:13.000 It bothers me.

01:24:13.000 That doesn't make any sense.

01:24:13.000 Especially if they're close to me.

01:24:15.000 You know what drives me nuts, man?

01:24:16.000 If people hate kids.

01:24:18.000 There's something about women hating kids. 1.00

01:24:20.000 I wrote this on Twitter once that I view women who don't like kids the same way I view dogs who like to eat their own shit. 1.00

01:24:26.000 And then this male feminist guy wrote this huge blog about it. 1.00

01:24:30.000 That's a pretty aggressive thing to say.

01:24:30.000 I should have said hate.

01:24:32.000 I said don't like, so he connected it to the only reason why women exist in his world is to have children. 1.00

01:24:37.000 Added a bunch of stupid shit that I don't believe at all to reinforce this idiotic point. 1.00

01:24:42.000 You're writing a blog about a tweet, you fucking idiot. 1.00

01:24:44.000 True. 1.00

01:24:45.000 You know, that's what you're doing.

01:24:46.000 By the way, he's an academic, too.

01:24:48.000 First of all, for you singles out there, red flags if a girl likes cats, doesn't like dogs, and doesn't like kids.

01:24:54.000 Yeah.

01:24:55.000 All red flags.

01:24:56.000 Carry on.

01:24:57.000 In some people's lives, in some people's lives, it's a good thing.

01:25:00.000 If you want a chick that doesn't like kids and you don't like kids... 1.00

01:25:03.000 If she doesn't like kids, she's probably pretty selfish, my man. 0.85

01:25:05.000 Could be.

01:25:06.000 You're right.

01:25:06.000 No, no.

01:25:08.000 100%.

01:25:08.000 Or most likely, most likely, you're right.

01:25:10.000 Or she's into something, or she's just into...

01:25:12.000 What she's into.

01:25:13.000 Or she's into yoga and makes $8 a day. 0.98

01:25:17.000 Look, not everybody has to want children.

01:25:20.000 Well, yeah, it could be also that she has some sort of a really demanding occupation. 0.99

01:25:24.000 She could be a doctor. 0.96

01:25:25.000 Or she had a really bad childhood.

01:25:28.000 Or she had a really bad childhood.

01:25:29.000 Again, you guys are talking about the exception.

01:25:32.000 In general...

01:25:34.000 In general, she doesn't want kids. 1.00

01:25:36.000 But you say someone who has a really good career or a demanding career today, that's not really the exception that much.

01:25:41.000 There's a lot of women who have very demanding careers today. 1.00

01:25:43.000 Yeah, and very fulfilling careers.

01:25:45.000 You don't run into them?

01:25:46.000 I do.

01:25:46.000 Look at Brendan just made the, like I just farted.

01:25:48.000 You know what?

01:25:49.000 In LA, yeah, they're everywhere.

01:25:51.000 I mean a model, actress, I mean...

01:25:52.000 Listen to what you just said right there.

01:25:55.000 What are you pulling from?

01:25:56.000 You're not like getting regular women. 1.00

01:25:58.000 Well, I live in LA, man!

01:25:59.000 I understand.

01:26:00.000 I get what you're saying.

01:26:02.000 Let's broaden our horizons and try, even though we're three men here.

01:26:06.000 I'm talking from Brendan Schaub and Marina Del Rey.

01:26:09.000 I'm not talking about from the world. 1.00

01:26:10.000 And Brendan Schaub and Marina Del Rey looks at people that don't want to have kids and is like, fuck you. 1.00

01:26:15.000 Who's my number? 1.00

01:26:16.000 There you go.

01:26:17.000 There you go.

01:26:18.000 100%.

01:26:18.000 And Brendan Shaw goes, hey, I'm Kelly.

01:26:21.000 I love cats.

01:26:22.000 I have eight cats.

01:26:23.000 I hate kids and I hate dogs.

01:26:25.000 I'm like, cool.

01:26:26.000 Over.

01:26:26.000 Red flag.

01:26:27.000 That's a little extreme.

01:26:28.000 That not liking dogs thing is a weird thing because it's like, unless you're allergic to them, that I understand.

01:26:34.000 I agree.

01:26:34.000 If it's like a nurture thing, like you don't like animals that like you or need you.

01:26:40.000 I like my cat because I can push it away.

01:26:41.000 It never cries.

01:26:42.000 I just leave food.

01:26:43.000 I go out of town for the weekend.

01:26:45.000 I just leave food.

01:26:46.000 That's a personality trait.

01:26:48.000 I love dogs.

01:26:49.000 Somebody one time explained to me what a dog is.

01:26:52.000 I read this article about how dogs evolve to be really friendly.

01:26:55.000 And that's how they...

01:26:57.000 It was on Cosmos.

01:26:58.000 And when I read that, I was like, maybe I don't like my dog as much as I used to.

01:27:02.000 I used to really be like, my dog's like a human.

01:27:04.000 I talk to him.

01:27:05.000 Now I'm like, nah, you're a dog. 0.99

01:27:06.000 You're manipulating me. 0.97

01:27:07.000 I'm not manipulating you.

01:27:09.000 I know. 0.94

01:27:10.000 They're born into shitty circumstances.

01:27:12.000 For a little while, I lost a little of my affection.

01:27:14.000 I love dogs, man.

01:27:15.000 Love them, man.

01:27:16.000 I'll never not have dogs.

01:27:17.000 My wife's allergic to dogs. 1.00

01:27:18.000 I'm like, tough shit. 1.00

01:27:19.000 We're having dogs. 1.00

01:27:20.000 We'll have dogs.

01:27:21.000 Does she take medication or shots?

01:27:22.000 No, she just doesn't hug them. 0.98

01:27:24.000 As long as she doesn't hug them, it's fine.

01:27:25.000 It's not severe.

01:27:26.000 Really?

01:27:26.000 Yeah, and if she hugs him, she gets red marks on her arms.

01:27:28.000 It's very common.

01:27:30.000 No, but some people, man, like Gary Valentine, a buddy of mine, you know Gary, comic?

01:27:35.000 He couldn't come over my house because I have cats.

01:27:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:27:38.000 Oh, you have cats?

01:27:39.000 I have cats and dogs.

01:27:40.000 Dang, Doug.

01:27:40.000 Yeah, I love animals.

01:27:42.000 I do too, but not cats.

01:27:43.000 You don't like cats?

01:27:44.000 I'm allergic to them.

01:27:44.000 Oh, well there you go.

01:27:45.000 I never had a cat.

01:27:46.000 Gary couldn't even walk in the house.

01:27:47.000 His voice, his pipe would start shrinking up.

01:27:51.000 He couldn't breathe.

01:27:51.000 He, he, he, he.

01:27:53.000 Wow.

01:27:53.000 You talk about, like, it'd make him whistle.

01:27:55.000 Yeah, I can't touch my eyes.

01:27:56.000 If I came over your house, I can't touch my face because my eyes are swollen shut.

01:27:59.000 Wow.

01:28:00.000 I'm allergic to nothing.

01:28:01.000 How about think about that?

01:28:03.000 What a weird response that is. 1.00

01:28:04.000 Normal shit for other people, like a bag of peanuts, given to some people, and it's death. 0.99

01:28:10.000 Well, how about, I was eating a lot of Brazil nuts, and then for whatever reason, the inside of my mouth, well, yeah, not me, get this, the inside of my mouth would swell up to the point where I was like, why is the inside of my mouth, literally, and it got worse and worse. 0.99

01:28:26.000 And then I was like, what the hell's going on?

01:28:28.000 So my mother comes over and she goes, those are Brazil nuts. 0.93

01:28:32.000 I go, yeah.

01:28:33.000 She goes, you know if I eat one, I would die.

01:28:36.000 And I went, what do you mean?

01:28:37.000 She goes, I can't even eat.

01:28:39.000 She said, no, she ate half a Brazil nut that was in a salad a long time ago and she had to be rushed to the hospital. 1.00

01:28:44.000 Why didn't this bitch tell you? 1.00

01:28:45.000 Right. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Sorry to call your mom a bitch. 1.00

01:28:47.000 What I realized is that I'm clearly allergic to Brazil nuts that I was eating wolfing down. 0.99

01:28:54.000 I mean, wolfing down.

01:28:56.000 At least partially.

01:28:57.000 You probably don't have it as bad as her.

01:28:59.000 No, but when you lack, I guess, an enzyme for certain nuts or whatever, you Yeah, Brazil nuts are high in zinc, I think.

01:29:05.000 Have you ever had your blood type tested for what you're allergic to?

01:29:08.000 I want to do my genome.

01:29:09.000 I did a whole diet where they tested your blood type to see what you're allergic to and said I'm allergic to egg yolk and that's really it.

01:29:16.000 Yeah, nuts.

01:29:17.000 That's crazy.

01:29:18.000 Brazil nuts actually can increase your testosterone.

01:29:22.000 That's why I was eating them.

01:29:23.000 The trainer told me to take them in my shake.

01:29:25.000 Really?

01:29:25.000 A mass amount of them?

01:29:29.000 Supposedly, super fucking healthy for you. 0.96

01:29:31.000 It says it's selenium, apparently. 0.91

01:29:35.000 Also, it helps lower your LDL or bad cholesterol, reduces the incidence of blood clots and heart disease.

01:29:41.000 If I eat a shitload of Brazilian nuts, are they going to be like...

01:29:44.000 Don't eat a lot of nuts.

01:29:45.000 Brendan tested positive for Brazilian nuts.

01:29:46.000 Don't eat a lot of nuts.

01:29:47.000 Well, it says here they actually caution limiting yourself to no more than two Brazil nuts per day because they are so loaded and concentrated with selenium that you don't want to overdose.

01:29:56.000 Right.

01:29:57.000 Copper and selenium are very important minerals, but...

01:30:00.000 With minerals, balance is really key.

01:30:03.000 You've got to be real careful with overdosing in certain minerals.

01:30:06.000 Well, if I come across Brazilian nuts, I'll take this into account, fellas. 1.00

01:30:09.000 Dose.

01:30:10.000 Dose daily.

01:30:11.000 They were selling these mega vitamins.

01:30:13.000 This guy was talking about how they were selling vitamin E tablets, gel caps, and it was over 3,000 milligrams.

01:30:19.000 The guy said, you'd have to eat 1,500 almonds to get that much vitamin E. That's too much.

01:30:26.000 That's a lot of vitamins.

01:30:27.000 You've got to be careful. 1.00

01:30:29.000 You can't be an idiot. 1.00

01:30:31.000 It's pretty basic. 1.00

01:30:32.000 But it's easy to be an idiot. 1.00

01:30:33.000 It's easy to be an idiot. 1.00

01:30:35.000 That's what's really weird about the supplement business. 1.00

01:30:40.000 It's very tricky.

01:30:41.000 What affects certain people doesn't affect other people.

01:30:44.000 Like with AlphaBrain, for instance.

01:30:46.000 When we first put AlphaBrain out, we had slightly different ingredients because some people had an adverse reaction.

01:30:53.000 They would get a headache.

01:30:54.000 It wasn't a dangerous thing, but it was enough for like, hmm, we've got to back this down a little bit.

01:30:59.000 And so you've got to be careful with certain reactions that some people have, like you with cats, like you with peanuts.

01:31:06.000 That's the thing when it comes to vaccinations.

01:31:08.000 Everybody talks about vaccinations like you're either in the camp. 0.99

01:31:12.000 of you believe that vaccinations are evil and they cause autism or you're in the camp that those people are idiots and they're dangerous and then these anti-vaccine people are really making all these diseases like measles show up in New York City again. 0.88

01:31:25.000 But the reality is that the truth lies somewhere in the middle because yes, vaccines are super important. 0.73

01:31:32.000 They're the reason why we don't have a lot of infectious diseases that wrecked havoc And there's science behind them and it's fascinating that human beings have figured out how to create these things that fight off diseases.

01:31:43.000 But some people are going to have adverse reactions to everything.

01:31:48.000 That's the reality of medication.

01:31:50.000 That's the reality of foods.

01:31:51.000 That's the reality to environment.

01:31:53.000 There's some people that can't live in the desert.

01:31:54.000 A very small number.

01:31:55.000 A very small number.

01:31:56.000 You're right.

01:31:57.000 We're dealing with the masses.

01:31:58.000 But you're dealing with 300 million people.

01:32:01.000 For sure, but when you're trying to make money on a supplement...

01:32:03.000 But what I'm saying is, when you have those small amount of people, if you have 300 million people and all of them get vaccinated, you're going to have 100 people, 1,000 people, you're going to have all these examples of things that went wrong.

01:32:13.000 And people look at that and go, well, look, there's so many people where things are going wrong.

01:32:18.000 But what you're not thinking about is the just sheer numbers of people kept from being diseased.

01:32:24.000 Sheer numbers of people.

01:32:26.000 How we contain polio.

01:32:28.000 They think smallpox probably killed 500 million people throughout history.

01:32:32.000 Yeah, unbelievable.

01:32:33.000 And it's no longer around.

01:32:34.000 And we squashed it out through vaccinations.

01:32:37.000 Polio put so many children on iron lungs and in wheelchairs. 0.97

01:32:41.000 And not only that, they did it in our grandparents' lifetime.

01:32:44.000 That's right.

01:32:44.000 You know, incredible, incredible discoveries have been made by science.

01:32:48.000 But it doesn't mean that some people...

01:32:50.000 Don't have an adverse reaction.

01:32:51.000 Some people are going to eat peanuts and they shouldn't.

01:32:53.000 They're going to die.

01:32:53.000 It's going to happen every year.

01:32:55.000 Every year, more than a thousand people die from aspirin.

01:32:58.000 They take aspirin and they die.

01:32:59.000 And when you take supplements, make sure you look into the data because a lot of the stuff is not regulated.

01:33:04.000 So if you're going to take massive doses of whatever it might be, make sure you take a look at the data.

01:33:09.000 Take a look at the double-blind studies.

01:33:10.000 See if it bears out. 0.93

01:33:13.000 Well, not only that, it's also when you get a supplement, like say if you're running a supplement company and you're buying vitamin B12, you've got to fucking test the vitamin B12 you get from the source.

01:33:25.000 Whatever it is, vitamin D, whatever you're getting.

01:33:29.000 You have to test it.

01:33:31.000 You have to test it independently because with AlphaBrain, we've had to make sure, we've had in the past, we had problems with manufacturers having like bad mixtures, like the mixtures were off.

01:33:42.000 With bone meal, when you sell calcium from bone meal has a great deal of lead in it or something like that.

01:33:46.000 I think it's lead.

01:33:47.000 What is AlphaBrain?

01:33:47.000 They were finding crazy amounts of lead in bone meal for whatever reason.

01:33:52.000 I can't remember if that's the exact thing, but it was like a case, a lawsuit.

01:33:57.000 And the vitamin company was brought up on charges because the source of where they were getting their calcium was very heavy in, I believe it was lead.

01:34:05.000 Wow.

01:34:05.000 A certain metal.

01:34:06.000 Yeah.

01:34:06.000 So you've got to know where it's sourced from, and you've got to know what your body's like.

01:34:11.000 It's so hard to tell what the fuck's going on in your body. 0.98

01:34:13.000 I told you I was having that problem with, I had arsenic in my blood. 1.00

01:34:16.000 It turned out it was from sardines. 0.99

01:34:18.000 Damn. 1.00

01:34:18.000 You must have been eating a shitload of sardines. 1.00

01:34:20.000 He's eating a lot of sardines. 0.97

01:34:21.000 Take it easy on sardines, kid.

01:34:22.000 Every scientist I've had, like I've talked to on the podcast and stuff, they always come down to one thing.

01:34:27.000 None of them say meat's bad for you.

01:34:28.000 Can I take these?

01:34:29.000 Yeah, yeah, take them all.

01:34:30.000 I take four.

01:34:32.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 I'm going to get you some of the Shroom Tech.

01:34:34.000 Shroom Tech is some fascinating shit. 0.99

01:34:36.000 Shroom Tech? 0.99

01:34:37.000 Yeah, it's all cordyceps mushroom.

01:34:38.000 It's all oxygen utilization.

01:34:41.000 I'll show you all the data behind it and send it to you.

01:34:44.000 It was all developed for the Chinese Olympic team.

01:34:47.000 Really?

01:34:47.000 Yeah, fascinating stuff.

01:34:49.000 They found it in high-altitude herding populations as animals that would eat these mushrooms would be more active.

01:34:55.000 And so the people started observing it and they started cultivating it.

01:34:59.000 From hearing you guys talk, it sounds like it should hire you as my nutritionist.

01:35:03.000 I told you about this lady. 1.00

01:35:05.000 You have a good nutritionist?

01:35:07.000 No, Joe.

01:35:08.000 No, I don't.

01:35:09.000 This is great.

01:35:09.000 No, I don't.

01:35:10.000 Actually, I don't.

01:35:11.000 This is a great story.

01:35:12.000 I was recommended to this lady.

01:35:14.000 I'm not going to say her name or where she's at.

01:35:16.000 I was recommending this lady. 1.00

01:35:17.000 She goes, yeah, so this is what we do.

01:35:19.000 And she goes, what are you looking to do?

01:35:20.000 I go, I love to eat clean.

01:35:22.000 I feel good eating clean.

01:35:23.000 I'm not looking to lose weight.

01:35:25.000 I want to stay the same way.

01:35:26.000 I like to eat healthy.

01:35:28.000 Perfect.

01:35:28.000 I deal with a lot of high-level athletes.

01:35:31.000 I got you. 0.99

01:35:32.000 I'm not making this shit up. 0.99

01:35:33.000 I showed Brian. 1.00

01:35:35.000 This bitch gave me chili cheese fries for breakfast. 1.00

01:35:38.000 Chili cheese fries and rice was for my breakfast. 1.00

01:35:42.000 I took a picture of it, emailed her.

01:35:44.000 I said, I think my order got messed up.

01:35:46.000 You gotta pick up your meals, right?

01:35:48.000 I think the order got messed up.

01:35:50.000 There's cheese...

01:35:52.000 And chili all over some fries for my breakfast.

01:35:55.000 She goes, you have a busy day of training.

01:35:58.000 You're gonna need the calories.

01:36:00.000 Yeah.

01:36:00.000 She lasted for a week.

01:36:02.000 Come on, Brian.

01:36:02.000 Why did you keep her for a week?

01:36:03.000 What about the meeting?

01:36:04.000 What was the meeting like?

01:36:05.000 I can't remember what she said.

01:36:06.000 Chili cheese fries.

01:36:07.000 Chili cheese fries. 1.00

01:36:08.000 Fucking crazy bitch. 1.00

01:36:09.000 Crazy bitch, yeah. 1.00

01:36:09.000 And by the way, in the mail? 1.00

01:36:10.000 In the mail?

01:36:11.000 My chili cheese fries better be fresh.

01:36:13.000 I don't want them in the mail.

01:36:14.000 They don't put them in the mail, they deliver.

01:36:15.000 I get meals delivered.

01:36:20.000 Do you Sunfair?

01:36:21.000 No, I use a private company, a small company.

01:36:24.000 Sunfair is delicious.

01:36:26.000 She runs it.

01:36:27.000 She had a job as a... 1.00

01:36:29.000 I forgot what it was, but she got fired or what have you, and she starts her own food business. 0.98

01:36:36.000 Well, yeah.

01:36:36.000 So I got chili cheese fries.

01:36:38.000 I fired her. 1.00

01:36:40.000 And then it didn't go – we didn't mix right from the start.

01:36:44.000 Right when we sent – she goes, I was in a rush, right?

01:36:46.000 I'm like, yeah, I'm here to pick up my meals, blah, blah, blah.

01:36:48.000 She's like, well, can we just sit down for a while?

01:36:49.000 I'm like, sure.

01:36:50.000 So she's like, well, you got to sign this contract.

01:36:52.000 I'm going over it.

01:36:53.000 It's like, I have Brendan Schaub for the next 37 days.

01:36:57.000 Will not eat junk food.

01:36:59.000 I'm like, yeah, whatever.

01:37:00.000 Will not drink soda.

01:37:01.000 Cool.

01:37:01.000 I don't drink soda.

01:37:03.000 Third one down, will not drink coffee.

01:37:05.000 I go, oh, skip that one.

01:37:07.000 Keep going, will not, will not, cool.

01:37:09.000 And she's looking at it, going through the page.

01:37:11.000 She goes, okay, we're good.

01:37:13.000 Oh, you missed one right here.

01:37:14.000 And I go, yeah, you're talking about the coffee one?

01:37:16.000 She goes, yeah.

01:37:16.000 I go, that ain't happening.

01:37:17.000 She goes, excuse me?

01:37:18.000 I go, I mean, we can get into this if you want, but there's clinical studies that show coffee helps out with workouts.

01:37:25.000 And I mean, it's not bad for you if you do in moderation.

01:37:28.000 She goes, well, then I don't know.

01:37:29.000 I go, Well, I'll tell you right now, it's not going to work out.

01:37:31.000 I'll walk at her right now and she goes, alright, I'll make one exception.

01:37:36.000 And then just right there, I was like, God, this is not going good.

01:37:38.000 Yeah.

01:37:40.000 I don't work with her anymore.

01:37:41.000 Long story short, she got fired.

01:37:43.000 Chili cheese fries should have fired her. 1.00

01:37:44.000 That shit's ridiculous. 1.00

01:37:46.000 Weird. 1.00

01:37:46.000 You should be eating fruit and vegetables, not chili fucking cheese fries. 1.00

01:37:49.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

01:37:49.000 Chili cheese fries with rice. 0.99

01:37:50.000 Because she said I needed the calories. 1.00

01:37:53.000 Oh my god, she's so retarded. 1.00

01:37:54.000 This is pre-workout. 1.00

01:37:55.000 Has she ever worked out hard a day in her life? 0.99

01:37:57.000 Do you know what kind of throw-up and shit would come out of your body if you ate chili cheese fries and then did a strength and conditioning workout? 0.99

01:38:03.000 Did box jumps and kettlebells and battle ropes with chili running through your bowels? 1.00

01:38:09.000 You ready for this?

01:38:10.000 Good luck!

01:38:11.000 I have to be one of the only heavyweights who's on a diet like this.

01:38:15.000 It's called an alpha diet.

01:38:17.000 I don't eat breakfast.

01:38:18.000 I do bulletproof coffee and MCT oil and I hit the ground running.

01:38:22.000 I don't eat until about 2. You juice though, right?

01:38:24.000 Don't you juice in the morning?

01:38:25.000 Vegetable juice, yeah.

01:38:26.000 Well, that's something too.

01:38:28.000 You'd be amazed at how much butter and MCT oil.

01:38:31.000 The reason why this bulletproof blend works is because you have the healthy fats connected to the caffeine.

01:38:37.000 It's a slow burn of the caffeine.

01:38:39.000 But you can't get over the actual calories. 0.97

01:38:41.000 I mean, someone should take one of these things and find out how much like a thermos this bitch is calorically with that much butter and that much MCT oil. 1.00

01:38:50.000 I bet it's quite a bit. 0.98

01:38:51.000 Oh yeah.

01:38:51.000 Eating a funka and hunk of butter takes you a while for your body to digest those fats.

01:38:56.000 That's what I'm burning.

01:38:57.000 It's easy, though.

01:38:58.000 It's a great way to work out.

01:39:00.000 To drink that stuff in the morning because you feel full, you have energy, and yet you still get a good workout in.

01:39:06.000 What about eating a sugar source before you work out?

01:39:12.000 What would be good?

01:39:13.000 Fruits.

01:39:14.000 Nothing's better than fruits.

01:39:15.000 So not pancakes or something like that?

01:39:17.000 No, no, no.

01:39:18.000 That's terrible for you.

01:39:19.000 Even if you're doing endurance sports?

01:39:23.000 Gluten is a tricky thing, man, because if you have a bad reaction to gluten, you're going to have all sorts of issues.

01:39:30.000 And even if you don't have a bad reaction to gluten, the studies are showing pretty clearly that it causes inflammation.

01:39:37.000 And it may be fine, but with a lot of people, you get this bloated appearance.

01:39:42.000 I've seen people go from wheat to no wheat, and then their face shrinks in, their body looks different.

01:39:48.000 It's like your body's...

01:39:49.000 It's inflamed.

01:39:50.000 And it's a lot of weird calories.

01:39:53.000 It's calories where your body's breaking down glue.

01:39:56.000 It tastes great.

01:39:57.000 I love lasagna.

01:39:58.000 I love pasta.

01:40:00.000 I love delicious bread.

01:40:02.000 It's great.

01:40:02.000 You go to an Italian restaurant and you smell it and you put some butter on that.

01:40:07.000 Me and Brian like a nice cheese plate.

01:40:09.000 A little bread, a little cheese plate.

01:40:11.000 Cheese plate's nice.

01:40:11.000 Yeah, it is.

01:40:12.000 The problem is gluten is just not a smart choice. 0.99

01:40:15.000 If you're thinking about what you're going to put in your body, why fuck around with that? 0.51

01:40:19.000 You could have lettuce, and you can have all sorts of delicious greens, and you could have fresh meats. 0.99

01:40:24.000 You're going to have a good...

01:40:25.000 Your body's going to have good nutrients.

01:40:27.000 It's going to have what it needs.

01:40:28.000 When you're having gluten or pasta or anything like that, you're just giving it a nice, delicious taste.

01:40:32.000 And if that's what you're cool with, that's cool.

01:40:34.000 You know, you're just out on a date, want to have a delicious meal. 0.98

01:40:37.000 But if you want performance food for your body, you really shouldn't fuck with anything that's complicated. 0.99

01:40:42.000 You want it clean, burning. 0.99

01:40:43.000 Exactly.

01:40:44.000 In and out.

01:40:44.000 Sweet potatoes.

01:40:44.000 Chicken breasts, sweet potatoes, yams, fish.

01:40:48.000 You know, if you can get some game.

01:40:50.000 Buffalo meat. 1.00

01:40:50.000 You get some fucking deer, buffalo. 1.00

01:40:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:53.000 You know what else is good?

01:40:54.000 Lamb.

01:40:55.000 Lamb is very easy to digest. 0.98

01:40:56.000 Brian would shut up.

01:40:56.000 Would you guys hunt?

01:40:57.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 It's so good.

01:40:59.000 I don't want to shut up about it.

01:41:01.000 It's so rich in nutrients and vitamins.

01:41:03.000 Never had it.

01:41:04.000 So low in cholesterol.

01:41:05.000 I've got a whole roast, dude.

01:41:06.000 I'll make a roast.

01:41:06.000 You tell me this.

01:41:07.000 You know, an elk steak, a 12-ounce elk steak, has less cholesterol than a 12-ounce chicken breast. 0.99

01:41:13.000 You need the shit out of that steak. 0.99

01:41:14.000 Nothing better than elk steak. 1.00

01:41:15.000 It's so good for you, too.

01:41:17.000 It tastes so good.

01:41:18.000 It's like almost got a sweet taste to it.

01:41:20.000 It's a dark red meat.

01:41:22.000 Oh, elk tenderloin on a grill?

01:41:24.000 It's as good as it gets.

01:41:25.000 It's so good.

01:41:25.000 Steve Brunel has eaten every meat, including mountain lion, and he goes...

01:41:30.000 Elk's the best.

01:41:31.000 And he goes, yeah, he said, if I had to eat one meat every day, it'd be elk.

01:41:35.000 Yeah, a lot of people think that.

01:41:37.000 And it's a giant animal.

01:41:38.000 Never had elk.

01:41:39.000 You should be a hunter.

01:41:40.000 You'd love it.

01:41:41.000 Nah, man.

01:41:41.000 I don't like guns.

01:41:42.000 I sent a picture of the deer I shot.

01:41:44.000 You don't have to go, Don.

01:41:44.000 We could use bow and arrow.

01:41:45.000 Do it like a man. 0.95

01:41:46.000 I'd be down for that.

01:41:46.000 Will you be down for that?

01:41:47.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:47.000 Let's do it.

01:41:48.000 The three of us, bow hunting, Tohono Ranch.

01:41:51.000 I'd be down for that.

01:41:51.000 I bet you would be down for that.

01:41:53.000 Naked and afraid, too.

01:41:54.000 I'm doing this thing.

01:41:54.000 Are we naked?

01:41:55.000 I'm doing this thing.

01:41:56.000 No, no, no.

01:41:56.000 We're going to wear our clothes.

01:41:57.000 No, have you ever seen naked and afraid?

01:41:58.000 I'm going to wear extra clothes just because you said that.

01:41:58.000 Have you ever seen naked and afraid?

01:41:59.000 Yes, I have.

01:42:00.000 I love it.

01:42:01.000 I think I would...

01:42:02.000 Wreck shop on that show. 1.00

01:42:04.000 I think you'd do fine until you got your dick bit by a spider and then you'd cry. 1.00

01:42:07.000 There you go. 1.00

01:42:08.000 No.

01:42:08.000 Because I'm covering myself in mud.

01:42:10.000 Tohone Ranch, hour and a half north of here.

01:42:12.000 We stay for a weekend, we film it, we go pig hunting with bows and arrows.

01:42:16.000 Let's do it!

01:42:16.000 I'm so down.

01:42:17.000 Are you down?

01:42:18.000 Wait, just for two days though, right?

01:42:19.000 Two days.

01:42:19.000 Yeah, I'm down.

01:42:20.000 Saturday and Sunday.

01:42:21.000 He doesn't do nature right now.

01:42:22.000 Hey, and then we spa'd on Sunday, huh fellas?

01:42:26.000 Spot?

01:42:26.000 Spot each other lifting?

01:42:27.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:42:28.000 No, spa.

01:42:28.000 Spa.

01:42:29.000 Oh, spa.

01:42:30.000 Hot tub, facials.

01:42:31.000 I got confused.

01:42:32.000 You know he's a prima donna.

01:42:34.000 He'll be like, if he's one of the toughest guys on the planet, he misses a meal.

01:42:39.000 If he's a half hour late to a meal, he's like this.

01:42:42.000 I'm lightheaded, man.

01:42:43.000 I'm starving.

01:42:44.000 Well, you gotta think of what he's doing with his body.

01:42:46.000 All day.

01:42:47.000 You can't even imagine.

01:42:48.000 I'm chilly.

01:42:49.000 I'm cold.

01:42:50.000 You guys cold?

01:42:50.000 Yeah, I'm a sissy, man.

01:42:52.000 I'm a sissy. 0.99

01:42:52.000 You can't imagine how fucking much he works out. 0.99

01:42:55.000 I know. 0.98

01:42:55.000 You don't take that into consideration? 0.98

01:42:57.000 No, I don't.

01:43:00.000 Brian, who...

01:43:00.000 I work out all the time.

01:43:02.000 Once a week, he might get in a workout.

01:43:04.000 Once a week.

01:43:05.000 And he probably Instagrams it.

01:43:06.000 I work out.

01:43:07.000 I just work out moderately.

01:43:08.000 You might work out once a week.

01:43:10.000 You might go a month with nothing.

01:43:11.000 He's the guy on Instagram that posts beast, bro.

01:43:15.000 How many days have you gotten the longest without any working out at all?

01:43:16.000 I work out every single day. 0.99

01:43:18.000 The fuck away from me. 0.99

01:43:19.000 Without question. 1.00

01:43:19.000 I'll come to your house and find you not working out and kill you. 1.00

01:43:21.000 How about this? 1.00

01:43:22.000 I bet you work out twice a week.

01:43:23.000 I don't work out every day.

01:43:24.000 You box twice a week.

01:43:25.000 No, but I work out, too.

01:43:27.000 You don't work out every day.

01:43:28.000 I don't ever work out every day.

01:43:29.000 Nobody works out every day.

01:43:30.000 You need days off.

01:43:31.000 Well, I take Sunday off.

01:43:32.000 I do something almost every day.

01:43:34.000 Oh, almost.

01:43:35.000 Now it's almost.

01:43:36.000 It used to be I work out every day.

01:43:37.000 I'll tell you what, though.

01:43:38.000 Brian's footwork is impressive.

01:43:40.000 I'll give you that.

01:43:41.000 His footwork's impressive.

01:43:43.000 When I saw I was impressed.

01:43:44.000 Thank you, buddy.

01:43:45.000 He's a dancer.

01:43:46.000 I'm a dancer.

01:43:46.000 All you have to do is just teach him different moves.

01:43:48.000 Build for dance.

01:43:49.000 Move his feet around.

01:43:50.000 That's it.

01:43:50.000 He's got an ollie shuffle.

01:43:51.000 Tony's a good teacher, man.

01:43:53.000 Trying to move around with that guy, my God.

01:43:55.000 The best, man.

01:43:56.000 Oh, and by the way, I am definitely not...

01:43:57.000 Are you by the way in?

01:43:58.000 I'm by the way in.

01:43:59.000 You just by the way again?

01:44:00.000 I am definitely not.

01:44:01.000 You get more tired boxing.

01:44:03.000 Just try to move around when you're exhausted.

01:44:06.000 I can't even focus right now.

01:44:08.000 Can we... 1.00

01:44:08.000 Are you pulling your cock? 1.00

01:44:09.000 He has these tight-ass Peter Pan green jeans on, and his piece is just bulging out. 1.00

01:44:16.000 Just sitting, man.

01:44:16.000 What are you doing?

01:44:17.000 I'm an American man. 1.00

01:44:19.000 Are you rubbing your cock at all? 1.00

01:44:20.000 No, but whenever I'm around Brennan, a little extra blood flows in. 1.00

01:44:22.000 Well, you know what it is? 0.99

01:44:23.000 It's that same thing that causes men chimps to have bigger balls. 1.00

01:44:26.000 Right. 0.99

01:44:27.000 It's like you're around an alpha male.

01:44:29.000 I have to compete.

01:44:30.000 I'm trying to compete. 1.00

01:44:31.000 And your dick is like, we better get bigger. 1.00

01:44:32.000 For sure get your dick out of my face. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Yeah, that's not the way to compete. 1.00

01:44:36.000 For sure and very obviously.

01:44:38.000 You're mixing it up.

01:44:39.000 You get confused. 1.00

01:44:40.000 Look at this chimp's balls. 1.00

01:44:41.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:44:42.000 Yeah, that's it. 1.00

01:44:43.000 Look at that motherfucker. 1.00

01:44:44.000 Look at the muscles on that chimp. 1.00

01:44:45.000 Jesus Christ.

01:44:46.000 Good luck with that.

01:44:47.000 Those hands are built for brutality. 0.98

01:44:49.000 Well, totally different tendon structure.

01:44:50.000 Everything's bigger and thicker. 0.85

01:44:52.000 Everything's ridiculous. 0.97

01:44:53.000 God. 0.95

01:44:54.000 That thing weighs 150 pounds and it can throw itself through the air with its arms.

01:44:58.000 That's insane.

01:44:59.000 Imagine that.

01:45:00.000 They grab a branch and just throw themselves through the air and slap that other one like it's Velcro. 1.00

01:45:06.000 And just hang and fucking... 0.99

01:45:08.000 They could be a thousand feet off the ground hanging from a branch. 1.00

01:45:10.000 So weird.

01:45:12.000 Joe, do you think you could tear it up on Naked and Afraid?

01:45:15.000 Me and Brian talk about this all the time.

01:45:17.000 You wouldn't do well?

01:45:17.000 No.

01:45:18.000 21 days?

01:45:19.000 Nope. 1.00

01:45:19.000 First of all, the stupidity of it all would insult me as a human being. 1.00

01:45:23.000 Why? 1.00

01:45:23.000 I was so dumb that I was willing to be on a show that was exploiting me to the point of making me naked go through the fucking jungle. 1.00

01:45:30.000 I'd be like, after one day, I'd be like, oh my god, I'm an asshole. 1.00

01:45:33.000 This is who I am. 0.99

01:45:35.000 I'm not Spider-Man. 0.97

01:45:36.000 I'm not fucking Herschel Walker. 0.99

01:45:38.000 I'm naked and afraid. 1.00

01:45:40.000 Day two, he'd be like, this blows. 1.00

01:45:42.000 With dirt on my balls. 1.00

01:45:44.000 And I'm like, this is so stupid. 1.00

01:45:45.000 I'm sleeping on dirt. 1.00

01:45:46.000 There's spiders everywhere.

01:45:48.000 I just like the challenge.

01:45:50.000 I'm not outdoors guy at all.

01:45:51.000 Hunting with gear like Joe and I did.

01:45:54.000 With gear.

01:45:55.000 With tents. 1.00

01:45:56.000 That's a bitch. 1.00

01:45:57.000 That sounds super boring. 1.00

01:45:58.000 Well, it wasn't boring at all.

01:45:59.000 It was very exciting.

01:46:00.000 Well, that's not what Brian said.

01:46:01.000 We were out in Montana, nine degrees.

01:46:05.000 That was scary.

01:46:06.000 No.

01:46:06.000 That was fun.

01:46:07.000 It was really fun.

01:46:08.000 We went rafting 40 miles down the Missouri River in a place where there's nobody.

01:46:13.000 I mean, we saw five people in five days. 0.98

01:46:15.000 I'm down to kill animals with a bow. 0.98

01:46:17.000 Gun does nothing for me. 0.99

01:46:19.000 Guns are super boring. 0.99

01:46:19.000 Gun's a great way to do it because you definitely kill them and you also can get them at a large distance so you can get many more shots. 0.99

01:46:27.000 Like getting up on some animals is super problematic with a bow and arrow.

01:46:31.000 Like what we did, the kind of hunting that we did, yeah, they starved a lot too.

01:46:35.000 They also, you know, they had been doing it a long time.

01:46:38.000 They did pretty well.

01:46:39.000 They did okay.

01:46:40.000 They did pretty well.

01:46:40.000 There was a lot more buffalo back then.

01:46:42.000 They didn't have the long-range rifle capabilities that brought down a lot of buffalo.

01:46:45.000 They would also wait until they got in the water a lot of times.

01:46:47.000 They'd wait until they'd cross a river and then they'd jump.

01:46:48.000 We could do that.

01:46:49.000 That could be the three of us.

01:46:50.000 We wait till they get in the water and we start bow and arrow, dude.

01:46:55.000 I have a Hoyt.

01:46:57.000 It's a 90-pound draw.

01:46:58.000 It shoots a 475-grain arrow, which is pretty heavy, at 302 feet per second.

01:47:05.000 It blows through everything.

01:47:07.000 It'll blow through a buffalo, an elk, a bear, everything.

01:47:11.000 Boom.

01:47:11.000 Right through.

01:47:12.000 Bone.

01:47:12.000 Everything.

01:47:13.000 Boom.

01:47:13.000 It goes through trees.

01:47:15.000 I shoot it. 0.60

01:47:16.000 If I miss the target and it hit the... 0.90

01:47:19.000 I had the target set up on this fence post.

01:47:23.000 It blew right through the fence post.

01:47:25.000 Like a big 2x4 of wood blew right through and out the other side.

01:47:28.000 A 2x4.

01:47:29.000 Think about what it would do to a body.

01:47:31.000 Wow.

01:47:32.000 Yeah.

01:47:33.000 And so one of those...

01:47:35.000 You might as well have a gun, but you're going to have to be close enough to hit it. 0.99

01:47:39.000 And shooting anything 20 yards away is tough. 0.95

01:47:42.000 40 yards away is really tough.

01:47:43.000 Like the difference between when I shoot a target that's 20 yards away and 40 yards away, like the amount of movement that you could do before you release the arrow. 0.99

01:47:51.000 At 20 you got a little bit of wiggle room and then you could release it, but you get to 40 and it's so minute because you're looking at something that's not magnified, your sight, And you're looking at a target that's so small because it's so far away, and you're just keeping that motherfucker right there and then letting it go. 0.96

01:48:06.000 Don't you find that more exciting than having this gun that basically does it all itself? 0.97

01:48:11.000 It's like a video game.

01:48:12.000 It's definitely more exciting. 0.99

01:48:13.000 And this poor animal comes walking through your freaking eyesight. 0.99

01:48:15.000 Here's the problem with that logic, though. 0.99

01:48:17.000 Here's the problem with that logic.

01:48:18.000 That poor animal will definitely get killed if you have a rifle with a scope.

01:48:21.000 If you have a rifle with a scope, you're looking at that animal from 200 yards away.

01:48:24.000 That's a dead animal.

01:48:25.000 Boom.

01:48:25.000 You're blowing a hole through that thing.

01:48:27.000 If that deer is sitting there, it's all in you not fucking up or your gear being off. 1.00

01:48:33.000 I fucked up in Wisconsin. 1.00

01:48:34.000 I dropped my rifle. 1.00

01:48:35.000 I fell on a hill.

01:48:36.000 And my rifle scope, when they installed the scope, I changed the scope when we got to Wisconsin.

01:48:42.000 And the guy, when he put the scope on, didn't have it tight.

01:48:44.000 And when we fell, it was like, you could lose it.

01:48:46.000 You could move it with your fingers.

01:48:48.000 And it caused an animal to get wounded.

01:48:50.000 You don't want that.

01:48:51.000 And you have way more of a chance of that with bow and arrow.

01:48:55.000 It's also not as easy as you think.

01:48:56.000 It's way hard to shoot an animal with a rifle.

01:48:59.000 Shooting an animal with a bow and arrow is really difficult.

01:49:03.000 But we have all this technology now.

01:49:05.000 I saw the video of you, the three of you just chilling like this one sleeping bag telling jokes.

01:49:11.000 And this little reindeer came prancing around. 0.98

01:49:14.000 Rainbeer, caribou, they live in Alaska.

01:49:15.000 And you had like a bazooka and it came across.

01:49:17.000 I had a bazooka.

01:49:18.000 No, it wasn't a bazooka.

01:49:19.000 It was a cannon and a light of fuse.

01:49:21.000 We had a helicopter gunship.

01:49:24.000 Meanwhile, you eat meat, dude.

01:49:25.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

01:49:26.000 You're just getting something that's tortured all its life and then shoved into a fucking vice and they put a piston to his brain. 1.00

01:49:31.000 Yo, I'm not against it. 0.99

01:49:33.000 I'm just saying it doesn't seem very exciting.

01:49:36.000 It's very exciting.

01:49:36.000 When that animal comes out of the woods and it's like looking around.

01:49:39.000 When you get an animal in your sights and, first of all, you've been tracking it for three days, four days, and you haven't seen one.

01:49:44.000 And it's a wild animal.

01:49:45.000 I'm just saying if you were tracking it with not technology, it'd be a lot cooler.

01:49:51.000 Well, here's the thing. 1.00

01:49:51.000 In Montana, where we were, if you were bow hunting, you're fucked. 1.00

01:49:54.000 You're not going to get a close enough shot. 1.00

01:49:56.000 The closest shot I got was 200 yards.

01:49:58.000 That was the only shot that I got.

01:49:59.000 I got one deer shot at 200 yards.

01:50:01.000 That's a long way.

01:50:02.000 You can't even see that far with a bow and arrow sight.

01:50:05.000 I mean, the idea that you're going to hold that deer, it's going to look so small when you're looking at it.

01:50:12.000 It's going to be a lot harder, for sure.

01:50:14.000 Not even harder.

01:50:14.000 I don't think anybody's ever done it.

01:50:16.000 Maybe a few people have done it, but you have to be expert archers to shoot a deer at 210, 220 yards.

01:50:23.000 But with a rifle, that's common.

01:50:25.000 It's super common.

01:50:26.000 You line it up.

01:50:27.000 It's a magnifying rifle.

01:50:29.000 You see the deer really clearly.

01:50:30.000 You lock the cross arrow on his heart, and boom, it's over.

01:50:33.000 I think hunting would be a lot more cooler if you were hunting something that could sneak up on you and kill you. 0.78

01:50:39.000 I think that'd be a lot cooler.

01:50:41.000 The problem with that is...

01:50:42.000 Like deer, like deer, oh no, I miss.

01:50:43.000 It goes prancing away.

01:50:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:50:45.000 Like, who cares?

01:50:46.000 So it'd be cooler if your life was in danger.

01:50:48.000 Yeah, if that deer had, like, saw you and was like...

01:50:50.000 Water buffalo, when you shoot a water buffalo, a lot of times they disappear into the tall grass, and you must go into that tall grass and finish them off.

01:50:59.000 Pull up the video of Cameron Haynes shooting a water buffalo with his bow.

01:51:02.000 He's waiting for you.

01:51:03.000 With a bow?

01:51:04.000 My friend Cameron Haynes, who is the guy who got me hooked up with Hoyt, and he's the guy who got me this 90-pound bow.

01:51:11.000 It's the same bow that he shoots.

01:51:12.000 So I shot it at my house.

01:51:14.000 It's so accurate.

01:51:14.000 I was like, I've got to get one of these things.

01:51:16.000 It's incredible.

01:51:16.000 It's so accurate.

01:51:17.000 It makes me more confident to shoot, because I know that if it hits something, it's... 0.98

01:51:21.000 Because it's got sights that are really ridiculous. 0.95

01:51:23.000 Yes. 0.81

01:51:23.000 And it's just... 0.81

01:51:23.000 So look at this. 0.81

01:51:24.000 He snuck up on this 2,000-pound water buffalo in Australia.

01:51:30.000 And they are dangerous. 1.00

01:51:31.000 Fuck yeah, they are. 1.00

01:51:32.000 Well, try running... 1.00

01:51:33.000 First of all, it runs faster than you, and it weighs 2,000 pounds.

01:51:35.000 That's crazy.

01:51:36.000 So it only sees movement.

01:51:37.000 So see how he's not moving?

01:51:38.000 The reason why he's not moving is because it's stopped, because it's sensed movement.

01:51:42.000 So then when it goes back to eating, he starts creeping.

01:51:44.000 Dude, are you kidding me right now?

01:51:45.000 And this whole process is taking him a long...

01:51:48.000 This guy?

01:51:48.000 This is your boy?

01:51:49.000 You would love this guy.

01:51:49.000 He's my buddy.

01:51:50.000 This is your boy?

01:51:50.000 I'm going hunting with him in June.

01:51:51.000 He looks like he's in shape, too.

01:51:52.000 He's in very good shape.

01:51:53.000 He does 28 chin-ups.

01:51:55.000 That's one of the reasons why he does it, is so he can pull back this monster bow.

01:51:58.000 Because that bow is...

01:51:59.000 Most human beings...

01:52:00.000 I mean, you can pull it back.

01:52:01.000 Brian can't.

01:52:02.000 I'll do 28 pull-ups.

01:52:04.000 But you weigh 8 pounds.

01:52:05.000 So how did he get this...

01:52:07.000 So this is a friend of his behind him is filming this.

01:52:09.000 See, obviously, there's a guy who's holding the camera.

01:52:11.000 So this is a long, slow process.

01:52:14.000 You don't have to speed it up.

01:52:15.000 Leave it alone, Jamie.

01:52:16.000 This is a long, slow process where he has to wait for this animal to give him a broadside shot, and when the animal's facing him, he can't move at all.

01:52:24.000 This guy doesn't hunt with rifles.

01:52:26.000 All he hunts with bows and arrows.

01:52:27.000 90 pounds.

01:52:28.000 This guy's my style.

01:52:29.000 I like this guy.

01:52:29.000 He's gangster.

01:52:30.000 I tried to pull a 60-pound bow and it was really hard. 1.00

01:52:32.000 You're such a bitch. 1.00

01:52:33.000 I mean, is he going to shoot this thing or is he just trying to steer at the damn thing? 1.00

01:52:35.000 It takes a long time, bro, because if you fuck up, that thing knows you're there and it's running at you. 1.00

01:52:39.000 Essentially, it can't know you're there. 0.99

01:52:41.000 For sure hide behind the tree.

01:52:41.000 For sure jump behind the tree.

01:52:43.000 Here it goes.

01:52:44.000 So now the thing is going to give him a broadside shot.

01:52:46.000 It's close enough.

01:52:47.000 He's down to about 30 yards. 1.00

01:52:48.000 With a shot, with an animal like this, you want to ensure that you shoot that thing through the fucking heart. 1.00

01:52:52.000 This is stealing. 1.00

01:52:53.000 This is stealing.

01:52:54.000 No, no, no.

01:52:54.000 It's faced the wrong way.

01:52:55.000 It has to go sideways totally because right now it's quartering away so you're only going to hit the shoulder and it might not hit a vital organ so then you've got an angry buffalo with a stick in its arm and then it's running at you and it weighs 2,000 pounds and it runs 40 miles an hour.

01:53:09.000 Good luck.

01:53:09.000 Well, I'm for sure hiding behind those trees.

01:53:12.000 But look, this thing is waiting so he doesn't move, man, because it's looking at him.

01:53:15.000 Look at this dude. 0.99

01:53:16.000 So this is a long fucking stalk, man. 0.99

01:53:19.000 This is like a 20-minute stalk where he's standing there with this 90-pound fucking bow in his hand, and he's not moving. 0.99

01:53:25.000 Look, so now it goes back to eating. 0.99

01:53:27.000 This isn't dead.

01:53:28.000 It's decided that he's nothing to be ashamed or to be concerned with.

01:53:32.000 Ashamed of?

01:53:33.000 He's nothing to be ashamed of.

01:53:34.000 So now look, now he sees it and he pulls it back.

01:53:44.000 Whoops. 1.00

01:53:45.000 Damn. 1.00

01:53:51.000 That thing runs off. 1.00

01:53:52.000 It's got a fucking arrow. 1.00

01:53:55.000 It goes through the side of its arm and right into its heart. 1.00

01:53:58.000 That's why there's so much blood pouring out of it.

01:54:00.000 Oh, that's why I hit it there.

01:54:01.000 Yeah.

01:54:02.000 Well, those animals, you have to know the anatomy of each individual animal because animals have their vitals in different areas.

01:54:09.000 So it's got an arrow in its heart right now.

01:54:11.000 Yeah.

01:54:12.000 So it's going to sit there for a couple seconds and then realize it's done. 1.00

01:54:15.000 See, I don't like seeing that shit. 1.00

01:54:16.000 I don't like that. 1.00

01:54:18.000 There it is.

01:54:18.000 It's gonna figure it out.

01:54:20.000 Any second now, it just drops.

01:54:24.000 I mean, when you're dealing with an animal that's that big, any other animal, like a North American animal, would be dead.

01:54:30.000 A bear would be dead, a deer would be dead, anything that's...

01:54:33.000 But this is just an enormous, gigantic animal.

01:54:37.000 Are you kidding me right now?

01:54:38.000 Look at this.

01:54:40.000 Yeah, and it sort of takes a while to just sort of bleed out, and it wanders off and collapses.

01:54:46.000 He said he ate it, and he put one piece in his mouth, and he chewed it for half an hour before he could swallow it.

01:54:53.000 That's some dense muscle.

01:54:54.000 Not only that, when they were there, they didn't bring any food.

01:54:57.000 They brought just enough snacks to get them through like a day, and they didn't bring any water.

01:55:01.000 So they had to boil all this water, and the water all had buffalo piss in it.

01:55:06.000 So every sip of water they drank was buffalo piss.

01:55:10.000 The thing fell.

01:55:11.000 It's done.

01:55:12.000 Wait, now this was in...

01:55:14.000 In Australia?

01:55:15.000 Yeah, Australia.

01:55:15.000 I didn't know water buffaloes were in Australia.

01:55:17.000 Well, they're not native.

01:55:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:55:18.000 This is what happened.

01:55:19.000 One of the reasons why they encouraged people to go over there and shoot them, they're a non-native invasive species.

01:55:24.000 They brought them over there, but they don't have any natural predators.

01:55:27.000 Right.

01:55:27.000 There's some things that can eat them when they're babies, like crocodile.

01:55:31.000 Look at the size of that thing, man. 1.00

01:55:33.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

01:55:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:35.000 Some things can eat them when they're babies. 1.00

01:55:37.000 Yeah, crocodiles mostly.

01:55:39.000 By the way, he's jacked.

01:55:40.000 He's in shape.

01:55:40.000 Yeah, he's in very good shape.

01:55:41.000 But like I said, he does all this shit just to train for hunting. 0.99

01:55:45.000 This guy, he runs ultra-marathons. 1.00

01:55:47.000 He makes a living hunting?

01:55:48.000 Yeah, he's got a television show and he's sponsored by a bunch of different companies like Under Armour.

01:55:54.000 He's a famous bowhunter.

01:55:55.000 But this guy, he does ultra-marathons. 1.00

01:55:59.000 He ran a fucking 100-mile marathon. 1.00

01:56:01.000 He's a beast. 1.00

01:56:01.000 He's an animal. 1.00

01:56:02.000 That's what he does.

01:56:04.000 And he does it all bow and arrow style.

01:56:06.000 That's macho.

01:56:07.000 That's the alpha male right there.

01:56:08.000 After you retire, you're going to need an outlet for all this savage aggression you got inside your body, son.

01:56:12.000 I'll tell you what I'm not doing.

01:56:13.000 What?

01:56:14.000 Waiting six hours and shooting a water buffalo.

01:56:17.000 You say you're not, man.

01:56:18.000 Nah, man.

01:56:19.000 I'll be doing Ironman marathons.

01:56:21.000 I don't know, though, Brandon.

01:56:22.000 You like to hang. 0.96

01:56:23.000 You like to hang. 0.96

01:56:23.000 I don't see you being... 0.96

01:56:24.000 I'll hang out with you guys.

01:56:25.000 I'll drink beers and stuff while you guys are...

01:56:27.000 You'll do a lot of jiu-jitsu, I feel.

01:56:29.000 When you retire.

01:56:32.000 I'm going to do the Worlds actually in May.

01:56:34.000 In a gi. 0.82

01:56:37.000 Do you like training with a gi? 0.99

01:56:40.000 Do you feel like it helps you in any way?

01:56:42.000 I do because if I have a 250 pound black belt on top of me and I can escape his side control or I can control him, when you take off the gi and these guys are trying to punch me, man, it's easy for me.

01:56:56.000 Really?

01:56:57.000 That's interesting.

01:56:57.000 So it's easier to defend because when you're defending with the gi, you have to be more technical?

01:57:04.000 Yeah, with the gi, I have so much to worry about. 0.78

01:57:07.000 I have to worry about gi chokes, collar chokes. 1.00

01:57:09.000 The guy can grab me and control me through my gi, you know what I'm saying?

01:57:12.000 So you feel like it's cross-training?

01:57:14.000 Yes, it takes away my explosiveness and my athleticism, and it forces me to use technique.

01:57:20.000 I've found that with defense for sure.

01:57:22.000 I get caught in a lot of arm bars with the gi that I would have never got caught with. 1.00

01:57:25.000 For sure.

01:57:25.000 But also my defense goes through the roof.

01:57:28.000 Really?

01:57:29.000 So you play a different game when you start doing that.

01:57:31.000 You just become much more technical and much more aware of where the positions are.

01:57:35.000 How flexible are you, man?

01:57:37.000 Uh, in certain areas.

01:57:38.000 Like, my hamstrings are really tight, but pretty flexible.

01:57:41.000 Yeah.

01:57:42.000 Do you have a...

01:57:43.000 Well, I shouldn't ask you this, because someone fighting you might try to exploit it.

01:57:46.000 What?

01:57:47.000 Do you work your guard?

01:57:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:57:48.000 Some guys are like, fuck it, I ain't gonna be on my back. 0.99

01:57:51.000 That's stupid. 1.00

01:57:52.000 No. 1.00

01:57:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:57:53.000 Listen, when I get taken down, I've only been taken down twice in the octagon, but I do not care.

01:57:59.000 The whole game plan, if he trained all this wrestling, still have a tough time taking me down, but if he trained all this wrestling and decided to put me on my back, cool, let's do it.

01:58:09.000 I'm all game for that.

01:58:10.000 I don't panic down there.

01:58:11.000 I'm very comfortable down there.

01:58:13.000 You've got to remember, my daycare was Shane Carlin on top of me.

01:58:16.000 I wasn't getting a lot of takedowns.

01:58:18.000 I was on my back all the time.

01:58:20.000 That's a crazy way to start your training in MMA. It was horrible.

01:58:23.000 Horrible, man.

01:58:24.000 So crazy.

01:58:25.000 What is it like in Grudge?

01:58:26.000 Every day he just beat me up non-stop. 0.97

01:58:27.000 That Trevor Whitman seems like a crazy dude, man. 0.74

01:58:29.000 He's a good dude. 0.94

01:58:30.000 Seems like a very good dude.

01:58:31.000 Good guy.

01:58:31.000 I haven't been there in years.

01:58:32.000 But a maniac.

01:58:34.000 He had Shane Carwin.

01:58:36.000 They wanted to have Shane Carwin spar with GSP. And GSP was like, what?

01:58:41.000 Why would I spar him?

01:58:44.000 What are you talking about?

01:58:47.000 Trevor's a genius when he comes to striking stuff like that.

01:58:49.000 But I think back on it and...

01:58:51.000 There's this thing where I felt like I had to prove to everyone I could hang with Shane Carwin.

01:58:55.000 No matter when we were sparring, that's how my footwork got so good because I'm used to this giant water buffalo, mad water buffalo, chasing me around the octagon.

01:59:04.000 So I was trying to get out of the way because if he landed right hand, it was a short – I mean, it was not good, man.

01:59:08.000 It was trouble.

01:59:09.000 He hit so hard.

01:59:10.000 He's got a...

01:59:10.000 So I got used to that, right?

01:59:12.000 And I'm moving nonstop.

01:59:13.000 And then when the bell would go ding-ding with 30 seconds left, literally no matter what we were doing, me and Shane would stop, walk to the middle of the cage, and just rock'em sock'em robots. 0.99

01:59:25.000 Goddamn. 0.83

01:59:25.000 I did that for three years, and then finally a part of me was like, uh, how about no? 0.83

01:59:31.000 And I shot a double leg on him, and we've never done that again, yeah. 0.99

01:59:34.000 He got super tired, but I think back on my training, I'm like, God, that was stupid. 0.99

01:59:38.000 Even taking him down. 0.99

01:59:39.000 I mean, he's so strong.

01:59:41.000 He's a big guy.

01:59:42.000 Strongest guy ever. 1.00

01:59:43.000 He's a big fucking guy, man. 1.00

01:59:44.000 A lot stronger than you, and you're strong. 1.00

01:59:47.000 Shane is 100% stronger than me.

01:59:48.000 Not even close.

01:59:49.000 He's ridiculously strong.

01:59:50.000 His bone structure is immense.

01:59:51.000 His bone structure is just...

01:59:52.000 He's bigger than Lesnar.

01:59:55.000 His legs are thick. 1.00

01:59:56.000 Thick ass. 1.00

01:59:57.000 Huge shoulders. 1.00

01:59:58.000 His hands, man.

01:59:59.000 Before they redid the UFC glove to fit over his hands, Shane's the reason why they changed the glove.

02:00:06.000 Shane had a 5XL glove.

02:00:07.000 They had to cut the glove just to get over his hand. 0.99

02:00:09.000 His hands are so ridiculous. 0.99

02:00:10.000 Yeah, when you shake them, it's like holding on to a ham. 0.98

02:00:12.000 So what was frustrating to me is, you know, I've always been in love with jiu-jitsu.

02:00:16.000 Shane would get injured or he'd have to work at a regular job and I was just training full-time.

02:00:20.000 And I would think I was being so good at jiu-jitsu.

02:00:23.000 And Shane would come in off a 9-to-5 shift, walk in, like, jiu-jitsu, huh?

02:00:28.000 Let's do it.

02:00:28.000 I'm like, I'm going to roll this big dude up.

02:00:30.000 And he would just shut it all down, man.

02:00:32.000 When I was training at a mall, he came by and trained one day, and I didn't get to roll with him, but I watched people roll with him, and it was like a child playing with his daddy.

02:00:43.000 A bear with a dog.

02:00:44.000 I've never experienced anything like that.

02:00:45.000 The daddy was just like rolling him over.

02:00:47.000 And I go with big guys all the time, but...

02:00:51.000 None like Shane, man.

02:00:52.000 Well, he doesn't even look real.

02:00:53.000 When he walked in the door, if I didn't know him, I was like, what's up, Shane? 1.00

02:00:56.000 But if I didn't know him, I would be like, look at this motherfucker! 1.00

02:01:01.000 He's got legs growing out of his shoulders. 1.00

02:01:03.000 This is how it happened.

02:01:04.000 I was like, oh, I want to be a fighter.

02:01:06.000 I knew Nate Markart.

02:01:07.000 I looked him up online.

02:01:09.000 Found out where his academy was in Aurora, my hometown.

02:01:11.000 I show up there.

02:01:12.000 Nate's a great guy, right?

02:01:13.000 He's like, yeah, man, we can do this.

02:01:16.000 We'll figure it out.

02:01:17.000 Come tomorrow, there's another big guy.

02:01:18.000 He only has, like, one fight.

02:01:20.000 He just started fighting, and he played football, too.

02:01:23.000 I'm like, oh, cool.

02:01:24.000 I show up.

02:01:24.000 It's sparring, right?

02:01:26.000 I show up, and in walks Shane Carwin at the time is 315 pounds.

02:01:30.000 Fighting the WC just jacked.

02:01:33.000 Looked like a silverback gorilla that just found the weight room and does nothing else.

02:01:37.000 I remember when he was really that big.

02:01:38.000 There's a picture of him that doesn't even look real.

02:01:41.000 It's insane.

02:01:41.000 And Nate goes, oh, hey, here's the guy I wanted to introduce you to.

02:01:47.000 And since then, me and Shane sparred, and we just stood toe-to-toe.

02:01:51.000 Neither one of us knew what we were doing.

02:01:52.000 Blasting each other in the face.

02:01:54.000 So you've rolled with guys.

02:01:55.000 I mean, you had the biggest and the baddest as a training partner forever.

02:01:58.000 The best, man.

02:01:59.000 He was like an older brother.

02:02:01.000 I couldn't afford private training with Trevor Whitman, and Shane believed in me so much, he paid for my training with Trevor.

02:02:07.000 Well, for a guy like Shane, having a guy like you around is invaluable, you know?

02:02:11.000 Trying to find a giant picture of him.

02:02:13.000 It was me and him, man.

02:02:14.000 Me and him.

02:02:14.000 He only had, I think, one or two fights at the time.

02:02:16.000 I had zero.

02:02:18.000 That's amazing.

02:02:18.000 Yeah, and he was a really good wrestler as well.

02:02:21.000 And his issue, really, he had a lot of issues from football.

02:02:25.000 Health, man.

02:02:26.000 Always.

02:02:26.000 A lot of neck injuries and back injuries.

02:02:28.000 He had a lot of problems with his back, man.

02:02:31.000 You know, the body's just not designed to have 300-pound dudes running at you full clip. 0.97

02:02:36.000 Well, it's also not designed to be 300 pounds in shredded muscle.

02:02:40.000 It's just not.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, that's true, too.

02:02:42.000 Anyone I know, anyone, and I know a lot of athletes, right?

02:02:45.000 High-level athletes.

02:02:46.000 Anyone who's that big, that lean, whether they're natural or not, they're always hurt, they're always hurt, or they're always sick.

02:02:54.000 For whatever reason, they just have bad immune systems, or they're always getting hurt.

02:02:57.000 Your body's fighting so much.

02:02:59.000 Look at this. 0.99

02:03:01.000 Yeah, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen in my life. 0.99

02:03:03.000 That's when he was at his biggest. 0.94

02:03:04.000 See if you can find that picture, Jamie.

02:03:06.000 Looks like just a bodybuilder.

02:03:09.000 Yeah, I googled Shane Carwin huge.

02:03:11.000 Bro, sparring days, I used to sit in my car outside the gym.

02:03:18.000 I was so nervous, man.

02:03:20.000 Like, dang, I don't want to do this.

02:03:21.000 Look at that picture.

02:03:22.000 Look at him. 1.00

02:03:23.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:03:24.000 First of all, does that not look like a gay porn picture. 1.00

02:03:26.000 I mean, that looks like that guy's gonna pull out his hairless cock and stuff it right in your butthole. 1.00

02:03:34.000 He's all shaved down. 1.00

02:03:35.000 Look at him.

02:03:36.000 Shaved down.

02:03:37.000 I mean, there's no way that guy's not gonna... 0.94

02:03:39.000 Dude, he's such a monster. 0.96

02:03:41.000 It doesn't even look real. 0.99

02:03:43.000 That looks photoshopped.

02:03:43.000 He knocked Gabriel Gonzaga out with just...

02:03:45.000 His arms are so long.

02:03:49.000 One thing I noticed about him is he's got super long arms.

02:03:51.000 Little newsflash, when he fought Frank Mayer, he might have hit mitts, I don't know, three times?

02:03:57.000 Really?

02:03:58.000 Yeah, he was hurt.

02:03:59.000 What was wrong with him?

02:04:00.000 His back was getting problems, so he couldn't train a lot.

02:04:03.000 Wow.

02:04:04.000 That's why he went after him so quick, maybe.

02:04:06.000 Got that underhook?

02:04:07.000 Got that underhook?

02:04:08.000 And those uppercuts?

02:04:09.000 Boom! 0.99

02:04:10.000 Dropped him, man.

02:04:10.000 He was hitting him with lefts, too, right?

02:04:12.000 Yeah, left.

02:04:13.000 Got that right underhook.

02:04:14.000 Yeah, and he's known for his right hand.

02:04:16.000 Meanwhile, he starched him with the left.

02:04:17.000 He was just such a gorilla.

02:04:19.000 You know, it's just health problems, man.

02:04:22.000 He started late, man.

02:04:23.000 Yeah, but it's also just the football.

02:04:25.000 All that football.

02:04:26.000 I mean, he had a lot of injuries from that.

02:04:28.000 Football, wrestling.

02:04:28.000 He's just a rugged dude.

02:04:30.000 You make a real good point, though, about guys that are that big, because you're right.

02:04:33.000 Everyone I know, though.

02:04:35.000 Everyone.

02:04:35.000 I'm telling you, one of my best friends, he was in the NFL, not anymore.

02:04:39.000 6'7", 265, shredded, right?

02:04:42.000 He's just always been that way.

02:04:43.000 Never been on drugs, nothing.

02:04:45.000 Always hurt, man.

02:04:46.000 He had to retire because he was always hurt.

02:04:47.000 Had eight surgeries.

02:04:49.000 Carrying around that kind of weight on your body.

02:04:50.000 And they're always sick.

02:04:51.000 Shane was always sick. 1.00

02:04:53.000 His immune system was shit, man. 1.00

02:04:54.000 Well, Shane also worked. 1.00

02:04:56.000 That's a hard fucking proposition. 0.99

02:04:57.000 Shane had a full-time job. 0.99

02:04:58.000 To work a full-time job and be a professional MMA fighter, fighting for titles, fighting...

02:05:03.000 Check this.

02:05:04.000 When Shane and I first started, we both worked 9 to 5 jobs at the time when we very first started.

02:05:09.000 9 to 5 jobs.

02:05:10.000 We'd both get off.

02:05:11.000 We'd go drive straight to the gym.

02:05:13.000 He would drive an hour.

02:05:14.000 I'd drive like 15 minutes.

02:05:15.000 He'd drive an hour to the gym.

02:05:17.000 And we would be at the gym from 6 to 10.30 at night.

02:05:20.000 We'd do four classes back-to-back-back.

02:05:23.000 Hey, we should do a podcast like this, like, after UFCs.

02:05:26.000 We should do, like, one.

02:05:27.000 We'll commit to, like, one a month.

02:05:28.000 Let's do it. 0.99

02:05:28.000 This is fun as shit, man. 0.99

02:05:29.000 Let's do it. 0.99

02:05:31.000 I figured, like, we could talk MMA for days.

02:05:33.000 Yes.

02:05:34.000 All day. 0.99

02:05:34.000 And throw in crocodiles and fucking terror birds. 0.99

02:05:38.000 We'll do a joint fighter and a kid. 0.99

02:05:39.000 We'll do a joint fighter and a kid. 0.95

02:05:41.000 Like, this will be one of our episodes.

02:05:43.000 Yeah, whatever, man.

02:05:44.000 We could record it and both release them simultaneously.

02:05:47.000 We'd do anything.

02:05:48.000 We'd do whatever we want.

02:05:49.000 I'd love it.

02:05:50.000 But that would be really fun to break down fights. 0.59

02:05:52.000 I'm fucking pumped about Tim Kennedy and Michael Bisping tomorrow night. 0.61

02:05:56.000 This is the other thing with Carwin. 0.97

02:05:57.000 What's weird is there's the days of Carwin Lesnar, who you just have these dudes who are gorillas cutting from 300 pounds to 265. Not that way anymore. 0.98

02:06:06.000 The big boys are gone.

02:06:07.000 Now you guys got Kane, 240. Judo Santos, 240. Big Brown, 240. Everyone's kind of more athletic.

02:06:15.000 I agree, and I think that there's a point of diminishing return, right?

02:06:18.000 When you get too big, your body just can't keep it up.

02:06:20.000 When you saw Kane just running all over Brock, the pace that he put on Brock, first of all, you're dealing with a Brock that was sick, so it's hard to look at that.

02:06:29.000 Now that we know that the dude had that serious diverticulitis issue.

02:06:33.000 That doesn't mean you turn away from punches, though.

02:06:35.000 Go ahead, carry on.

02:06:36.000 That's a very good point. 0.98

02:06:37.000 There's also the issue of trying to deal with a guy who's been striking for a long fucking time, and you are essentially a novice at it.

02:06:44.000 And if you can't take the guy down, if you do take the guy down, like you took Kane down, and Kane pops right back up to his feet.

02:06:50.000 Now you have to deal with that pace. 0.97

02:06:52.000 Also mentally for him, he gets guys down, they're screwed.

02:06:55.000 He took Kane down, Kane got double wrist control, popped up. 1.00

02:06:58.000 And Lesnar was like, damn. 1.00

02:07:00.000 You can see in his face like, holy shit. 1.00

02:07:02.000 That's why when he fought Shane, I was like, this fight's over. 0.99

02:07:04.000 This fight's over.

02:07:06.000 And then they didn't stop it.

02:07:07.000 Second round, Shane was dealing with some problems.

02:07:10.000 Gas is out.

02:07:11.000 Basically his body shut down on him.

02:07:12.000 Gets choked out.

02:07:13.000 I fought on the same night, fought Brock Lesnar's best friend, training partner.

02:07:17.000 That was the thing, right?

02:07:18.000 Lesnar, Carwin.

02:07:20.000 Training partners fighting each other on Spike, the main card on Spike.

02:07:23.000 I knocked Chris Tusher out in 50 seconds. 0.99

02:07:26.000 He's a big, fat slob. 1.00

02:07:27.000 He's 21, though. 1.00

02:07:28.000 Tough dude.

02:07:29.000 21. How rude!

02:07:31.000 I knocked him out in 20 seconds. 1.00

02:07:33.000 He's a big, fat slob. 1.00

02:07:34.000 He's a nice fucking guy, man. 1.00

02:07:36.000 He was 21, though. 1.00

02:07:37.000 20 and 1. He's a tough guy.

02:07:38.000 Yeah, but I'm all excited.

02:07:40.000 I'll dare you.

02:07:41.000 I'm all excited.

02:07:42.000 I come running back, right?

02:07:43.000 I'm not touching that.

02:07:45.000 I come back to the locker room, and then Shane's...

02:07:49.000 Turn to get ready.

02:07:50.000 He's getting ready.

02:07:51.000 I thought he was the fight one.

02:07:52.000 I was crunk, right?

02:07:53.000 Because I won my fight.

02:07:54.000 I've never been so sad in my life when Shane lost that fight.

02:07:57.000 Because we did training camp together.

02:07:58.000 He was like a brother, heavyweight champion.

02:08:00.000 It was so close.

02:08:00.000 It didn't happen.

02:08:01.000 We were both crying, right?

02:08:03.000 Both crying our eyes out in the locker room.

02:08:05.000 Dana White comes in.

02:08:06.000 He goes, everyone leave the room.

02:08:08.000 I'm all, really?

02:08:09.000 He's like, Shob, you can stay. 0.99

02:08:11.000 Thanks, Dana.

02:08:12.000 Shane's literally on the floor with ice on his heart.

02:08:15.000 Ice on his heart because his body's going crazy.

02:08:17.000 He's laying on the floor.

02:08:18.000 Looks like a giant just gorilla.

02:08:22.000 And he's sweating.

02:08:23.000 Sweating ice on his heart.

02:08:24.000 Ice on his hands all over, right?

02:08:26.000 Dana makes everyone leave the room.

02:08:28.000 He gives Shane a check.

02:08:29.000 I was like, what is it, man? 0.99

02:08:32.000 I look, I'm like, oh shit! 0.99

02:08:34.000 Wow! 0.99

02:08:34.000 I popped up. 0.99

02:08:35.000 Fuck it, man! 1.00

02:08:36.000 Let's do this! 1.00

02:08:37.000 It was a lot of money.

02:08:39.000 I stopped crying, so did Shane.

02:08:41.000 Wow, the ice bags melted.

02:08:44.000 That's real money.

02:08:46.000 Wow.

02:08:46.000 Well, that was a crazy first round, man.

02:08:48.000 If he paced himself and picked his shots better...

02:08:51.000 Why would he, though?

02:08:52.000 They should have stopped the fight.

02:08:53.000 He's beating the brakes off Brock.

02:08:54.000 No, they shouldn't have stopped the fight.

02:08:56.000 They shouldn't have stopped the fight.

02:08:57.000 I've seen fights stop for a lot less.

02:08:59.000 Okay, but would you have that to be stopped if that was you and you were okay like Brock was?

02:09:03.000 Brock got back to his corner and he was alright.

02:09:05.000 I mean, he got hit with some big shots, but he defended well.

02:09:08.000 You know what?

02:09:09.000 That's when I got a lot of respect for Brock.

02:09:11.000 After that fight, I was like, alright, he's a legit fighter.

02:09:12.000 Before then, I was like, no, sign me up.

02:09:14.000 He got rocked, he got cut, plenty of time to give up.

02:09:18.000 Plenty of time to give up.

02:09:19.000 That's when you were like, alright, Brock's legit.

02:09:20.000 He just didn't know how to deal with Kane's hands.

02:09:22.000 Well, Kane was just too much, and also, he was operating, he was operating, his estimation, at 40%.

02:09:28.000 What does that mean in the real world?

02:09:30.000 Only he knows, but he definitely had diverticulitis then.

02:09:33.000 Even if he was 100%, Kane beats him.

02:09:35.000 I agree with you.

02:09:36.000 And A +, Kane, A +, Brock, Horrible matchup for Brock.

02:09:40.000 But I think it would be a great fight though.

02:09:41.000 Fun fight while it lasted, but I don't think so.

02:09:44.000 Really?

02:09:44.000 You don't think so?

02:09:45.000 I don't know.

02:09:46.000 Why?

02:09:46.000 Because Kane's a lot smarter, has more tools, his gas tank's so much better.

02:09:52.000 I think after a while it'd take its toll on Brock and he'd TKO him time after time.

02:09:55.000 Junior Dos Santos will never be the same again.

02:09:57.000 I don't think so either.

02:09:58.000 Will never ever be the same again. 0.98

02:10:00.000 Those two fights were fucking insane. 0.97

02:10:03.000 The corner should have threw in the towel. 0.98

02:10:05.000 Yeah, well, you know, when it ended, too, it's crazy, because it ended from him falling on his head.

02:10:11.000 He, you know, he got...

02:10:12.000 He tried to do, like, a power guillotine on Kane, and Kane ducked under, and Junior was so tired, and he had taken such a beating, that he's holding onto this guillotine, and he literally falls forward right onto his head, and, like, stuns himself, and then they stop the fight.

02:10:28.000 But the beating that he took up until that, there was three, four times where Herb Dean was like...

02:10:34.000 Moving close to stop the fight and then Junior's heart pulled through.

02:10:38.000 It was insane. 0.99

02:10:40.000 Junior Dos Santos does not fucking give up. 0.99

02:10:42.000 That's one thing. 0.98

02:10:43.000 He had as many opportunities to give up as a human being ever gets in life and he will not give up.

02:10:48.000 It's tough, right?

02:10:49.000 And I think about this.

02:10:50.000 It's tough because if Junior came...

02:10:53.000 Five years ago, he's the champ for a long time.

02:10:56.000 But because there's this group of guys, and it's about matchups.

02:11:00.000 The UFC's about matchups.

02:11:02.000 Cain Velasquez, Junior Dos Santos, Junior will never beat him, right?

02:11:06.000 He got that one lucky shot.

02:11:07.000 Other than that, those guys fight 100 times.

02:11:10.000 Cain's winning 99 usually.

02:11:11.000 He just is.

02:11:13.000 However, if Junior fights Verdum, Travis Brown, he's probably going to win.

02:11:17.000 It's just matchups, man.

02:11:18.000 Who is a better matchup for you, Verdum or Alistair Overeign?

02:11:23.000 I mean, that's random as hell, but...

02:11:29.000 When you see a guy like Alistair that was at a very high level in kickboxing, came over, fought Lesnar, looked fantastic, but then you see him in the Bigfoot fight post getting popped.

02:11:40.000 He got popped for testosterone.

02:11:42.000 You see him in the Bigfoot fight and then you see him in the Travis Brown fight.

02:11:45.000 How much do you think he's lost from not having...

02:11:48.000 This is the thing though.

02:11:49.000 He's destroying these guys.

02:11:51.000 Right.

02:11:51.000 You don't want to be that guy in the first two minutes fighting Alistair over him.

02:11:55.000 It is a nightmare.

02:11:56.000 But he didn't fight that way against Mir.

02:11:58.000 Against Mir, he was very controlled.

02:12:00.000 Hey, thanks for that fight. 0.99

02:12:02.000 Mir, what the fuck are we doing? 0.98

02:12:05.000 What did you do all training camp? 0.99

02:12:07.000 What are we doing?

02:12:08.000 You did nothing.

02:12:10.000 What are you saying?

02:12:11.000 He didn't throw a punch.

02:12:13.000 Well, I don't think he could hit him.

02:12:14.000 I mean, I think he was having a real problem dealing with that guy.

02:12:17.000 Do something, man.

02:12:18.000 I wonder what their game plan was.

02:12:20.000 I would love to hear it.

02:12:20.000 I bet the game plan was figured out how to tire him out and get him down to the ground.

02:12:24.000 I bet that was probably the game plan.

02:12:25.000 Stay on the outside, work him. 0.85

02:12:27.000 And Overeems was be very conservative, don't gas out.

02:12:30.000 And Overeems was also control him on the ground.

02:12:32.000 He wasn't afraid of going to the ground with Frank Mir. 0.93

02:12:33.000 He did control the heck out of him.

02:12:35.000 Which is pretty shocking.

02:12:36.000 Frank's a hell of a grappler and really good off his back.

02:12:39.000 People forget that Alistair won the Abu Dhabi European Trials, though.

02:12:43.000 Alistair can grapple.

02:12:44.000 He has a nasty guillotine.

02:12:46.000 Yeah, he submitted Vitor. 0.94

02:12:47.000 He submitted Vitor with a guillotine.

02:12:48.000 He submitted Mark Hunt via Kimura.

02:12:51.000 Yeah, that's right.

02:12:52.000 And a weird one, too.

02:12:53.000 I told Hunt, if he needed, I would open up a jiu-jitsu school for him in New Zealand.

02:12:56.000 So he had an idea of what's going on on the ground.

02:12:59.000 Well, didn't you guys make some sort of a bet?

02:13:01.000 Like, you would try to knock him out and he would try to submit you?

02:13:03.000 Wasn't there something along those lines?

02:13:05.000 Yeah, we and him were talking smack on Twitter, and then we got into this winner takes all, and he started clowning how he's going to knock me out and stand on my big lips.

02:13:12.000 We should get him on the fighter and the kid.

02:13:13.000 Yeah.

02:13:14.000 See if he'll come on.

02:13:14.000 Stand on your big lips.

02:13:15.000 I was like, what? 0.98

02:13:16.000 What's wrong with He's like, I'm going to stand on your big lips and knock you out.

02:13:21.000 I think he means it because you talk a lot.

02:13:24.000 Well, I have big lips, so it's confusing.

02:13:26.000 You should have shot back, I have a full mouth.

02:13:28.000 I wouldn't say they're really big. 0.73

02:13:30.000 I'd say it's a full mouth.

02:13:32.000 I look like Lionel Richie, for sure.

02:13:34.000 I wouldn't describe you that way.

02:13:36.000 Describe Brendan Schaub.

02:13:37.000 Oh, the lips.

02:13:38.000 He's got these big lips.

02:13:39.000 I'd describe him as Big Brown. 0.66

02:13:41.000 Yeah, me and him got on it.

02:13:42.000 I'm trying to get his nickname changed from hybrid to Big Brown.

02:13:45.000 Dude, this guy starts with Big Brown.

02:13:47.000 Why Big Brown?

02:13:48.000 He's Big Brown. 0.67

02:13:49.000 He's just big and brown.

02:13:50.000 That's why everybody calls him Big Brown now.

02:13:52.000 What is your nationality?

02:13:54.000 My mom's full-blooded English. 1.00

02:13:57.000 That's bullshit. 1.00

02:13:58.000 Born and raised in England. 1.00

02:13:59.000 Born and raised in England.

02:14:01.000 My dad's German, a little bit of Italian, French.

02:14:03.000 Native American and Jewish, 100%.

02:14:04.000 I don't care what anybody says.

02:14:06.000 Did you ever do your genome test to see if anybody's lying?

02:14:09.000 No, I need to. 0.99

02:14:11.000 Someone fucking Neanderthal in your past. 0.99

02:14:12.000 Because no one looks like me. 0.99

02:14:14.000 No one looks like me.

02:14:15.000 Well, your dad looks exactly like the crying Indian from those commercials in the 70s. 0.99

02:14:20.000 And I mean, exactly.

02:14:23.000 And even got watery eyes, by the way.

02:14:25.000 The only missing is the braids and the long hair.

02:14:27.000 Well, here's something to consider.

02:14:28.000 When someone talks about someone being German or someone being Italian or someone being anything, yeah, maybe, but who knows how they got to Germany or Italy 17 generations before.

02:14:39.000 Who knows where any of those Germanic people came from.

02:14:43.000 Doesn't it all lead back to some...

02:14:45.000 Africans.

02:14:46.000 Yeah, African, right? 0.99

02:14:47.000 You do not...

02:14:48.000 Tell the story about Kimbo Slice.

02:14:52.000 Kimbo Slice on Ultimate Fighter?

02:14:54.000 Yeah, when you guys were doing that.

02:14:55.000 They didn't even show this on the air, so...

02:14:58.000 This guy, I'm not going to mention his name, on the show he lost, and you can drink all the alcohol you want in the house.

02:15:03.000 And there's only, at the time, there's only four of us left still fighting.

02:15:06.000 Roy, Marcus Jones, Mitrione, and myself.

02:15:11.000 That's the four fighting, right?

02:15:13.000 So one of the other guys is hammered.

02:15:16.000 Hammered.

02:15:16.000 He's lost, right?

02:15:17.000 Hammered.

02:15:18.000 Wasted.

02:15:19.000 All of a sudden, this guy gets super racist in the house. 0.99

02:15:22.000 And there's a bunch of black guys in the house. 0.95

02:15:24.000 Starts talking about how his wife loves him because of the Aryan nation and starts throwing up racial slurs and throwing up these, you know, the Hey Hitler stuff, Heil Hitler stuff. 0.95

02:15:33.000 Write his name on this piece of paper for me.

02:15:35.000 Alright.

02:15:36.000 Dude, this isn't getting out though, right?

02:15:38.000 No, no, no.

02:15:39.000 I just need to know for my own edification.

02:15:41.000 So he starts doing all this stuff.

02:15:42.000 I'm sleeping.

02:15:43.000 I have the biggest fight of my life the next day.

02:15:46.000 Dana White literally stops us in the car and goes, Listen, whoever makes to the finale, whether you win or not, you're going to be a superstar.

02:15:53.000 It's huge, man.

02:15:54.000 The biggest season we've ever had.

02:15:56.000 You guys want to win this fight.

02:15:57.000 Thank you.

02:15:58.000 No pressure.

02:15:59.000 So, I'm sleeping.

02:16:02.000 And...

02:16:02.000 I'm sleeping.

02:16:06.000 And, uh...

02:16:09.000 I'm sleeping on the ground and I thought it was a dream.

02:16:12.000 Kimbo Slice and Marcus Jones and this D'Amico Rogers comes in my room and they go, yo, Shaab, get up, dawg.

02:16:21.000 Get up, man.

02:16:22.000 I'm like, huh? 0.91

02:16:23.000 Why are there three large black guys around my bed? 1.00

02:16:26.000 Kim goes, yo, man, this dude's down there talking about our people. 0.98

02:16:29.000 We're about to jack him up.

02:16:31.000 Literally, I thought I was in a dream.

02:16:33.000 I go, excuse me?

02:16:34.000 He's talking about our people, dog. 0.92

02:16:35.000 Let's go F this dude up.

02:16:37.000 I'm like, listen, you guys realize, I said, I'm not down with the race thing. 1.00

02:16:42.000 I'm totally down to fuck this dude up. 0.98

02:16:43.000 But you realize I'm not black, right? 1.00

02:16:45.000 Kim goes, you ain't black? 0.96

02:16:47.000 I go, no man. 1.00

02:16:48.000 He goes, damn, that's crazy. 1.00

02:16:51.000 Turn around, leave, and I hear, that's why I lock shop. 1.00

02:16:54.000 You can't tell what the hell he is. 1.00

02:16:59.000 And I go, hey, Kimbo, that's racist, dog. 1.00

02:17:02.000 He goes, why? 0.99

02:17:03.000 I go, just because I'm athletic and can fight, I've got to be black. 0.99

02:17:05.000 He goes, you could be, and keeps going.

02:17:11.000 Wow, that's interesting, man. 0.99

02:17:13.000 That's a fucking weird situation to be in, too. 0.99

02:17:16.000 What? 1.00

02:17:16.000 A trained killer who's also an Aryan Nation guy. 1.00

02:17:19.000 Is he mic'd up while this is going on, too?

02:17:21.000 He's mic'd up, and they have to escort him out of the house.

02:17:24.000 Why didn't they put that on the show?

02:17:26.000 Oh, that's not good for ratings. 0.99

02:17:27.000 Fuck yeah, it is. 0.99

02:17:28.000 Nah. 1.00

02:17:29.000 Are you kidding me?

02:17:30.000 Didn't show any of it, man.

02:17:32.000 That guy never fought again, did he?

02:17:34.000 Did he?

02:17:35.000 No.

02:17:36.000 Hmm.

02:17:37.000 Interesting.

02:17:37.000 Too many clues.

02:17:38.000 We know people are going to know who this is.

02:17:39.000 They'll figure it out. 1.00

02:17:40.000 Tough shit. 1.00

02:17:41.000 Bad news. 1.00

02:17:42.000 That's fascinating.

02:17:43.000 Yeah, it is bad news.

02:17:44.000 Six years ago.

02:17:45.000 Yeah, they have to make a decision, right?

02:17:46.000 Whether you put that on the TV or not.

02:17:48.000 We didn't need it, though.

02:17:49.000 The ratings were so high.

02:17:50.000 And then you want to toss something.

02:17:52.000 Highest ratings ever, by the way.

02:17:53.000 Tough 10. Whoop, whoop.

02:17:54.000 Was it really?

02:17:55.000 The highest ratings ever?

02:17:56.000 Ever.

02:17:56.000 Nothing's even close.

02:17:56.000 Kimbo Slice, that's why.

02:17:57.000 Kimbo Slice.

02:17:58.000 Isn't that crazy?

02:17:58.000 I'll never forget, man, when we walk in the house, right?

02:18:02.000 We walk in the gym, you're standing there, and I'm like, I don't know any of these guys.

02:18:06.000 In walks Roy Nelson.

02:18:07.000 I'll never forget this. 1.00

02:18:08.000 Matt Mitrione goes, look at the fat ass. 1.00

02:18:10.000 And I'm all, bro, that's Roy Nelson. 1.00

02:18:12.000 He goes, who's that?

02:18:12.000 I go, he's like a world champ, man, in the IFL. He has like 30 fights.

02:18:16.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:18:18.000 And Matt's like, ah, it's nothing, man. 1.00

02:18:20.000 And then Dana was hyping up everyone, going... 1.00

02:18:24.000 Do you realize there's 15 guys here?

02:18:26.000 There's 16 total, though.

02:18:28.000 We're bringing a special guest.

02:18:30.000 They hype this thing up.

02:18:31.000 Everyone's wanting everyone.

02:18:32.000 I lean over to Roy.

02:18:33.000 I go, bro, you know who they're about to bring in?

02:18:35.000 And there's big talks at the time.

02:18:36.000 Can you imagine if they did this? 1.00

02:18:37.000 I said, Fedor's about to walk through that motherfucker. 1.00

02:18:39.000 We're all screwed. 1.00

02:18:40.000 I have three fights. 0.97

02:18:42.000 They're about to bring Fedor into the ultimate fighter house.

02:18:44.000 Disaster.

02:18:45.000 And that's why when they're like, bring him in.

02:18:48.000 And in walks Kimbo Slice.

02:18:50.000 I thought it was going to be Fedor.

02:18:52.000 That's why I look over at Matt and I go, oh. 1.00

02:18:54.000 Fuck Kimbo Slice! 1.00

02:18:55.000 And that's the very first way people saw me on national TV is me saying fuck Kimbo Slice. 1.00

02:19:00.000 That's hilarious. 0.99

02:19:02.000 I thought it was going to be Fedor, man.

02:19:03.000 I was all nervous.

02:19:04.000 You really thought it was going to be Fedor?

02:19:06.000 I was.

02:19:06.000 Oh my god.

02:19:07.000 Somebody needs to talk to you.

02:19:08.000 I know.

02:19:08.000 Why would Fedor do The Ultimate Fighter?

02:19:10.000 I don't know.

02:19:11.000 Maybe they pay him like a jigillion dollars and he's like, okay, just tear up these kids with three fights.

02:19:15.000 You know what's crazy?

02:19:17.000 That'd be funny.

02:19:18.000 You know what's really crazy, though, is that Kimbo Slice would get more ratings.

02:19:21.000 That's weird.

02:19:22.000 More people knew who Kimbo Slice was back then because of YouTube, like the casual person, than knew who Fedor was.

02:19:28.000 I'll tell you what, Kimbo, one of the nicest people I've ever met.

02:19:31.000 Very nice guy.

02:19:32.000 So cool.

02:19:33.000 Yeah, very nice guy.

02:19:33.000 Taught me how to fight with a shank.

02:19:35.000 What?

02:19:36.000 Yeah, man.

02:19:37.000 Is it rules?

02:19:37.000 Well, you leave this arm so they can scrape that arm.

02:19:40.000 They got the knife in this one, man.

02:19:41.000 Right.

02:19:41.000 It was dope.

02:19:43.000 While he was barbecuing, if he's listening, he needs to open up his barbecue restaurant called Kimbo's.

02:19:49.000 Man, that guy could grill.

02:19:50.000 Like no one's business.

02:19:51.000 Really?

02:19:51.000 He'd make this barbecue sauce.

02:19:53.000 He'd make his own sauce?

02:19:54.000 Yeah.

02:19:54.000 What would he put in it?

02:19:56.000 Honey, mustard, all sorts of stuff.

02:19:58.000 So he just knew what he was doing.

02:19:59.000 Oh, knew what he was doing.

02:20:01.000 What did he barbecue?

02:20:02.000 Ribs? 0.66

02:20:03.000 What?

02:20:03.000 Ribs.

02:20:04.000 I mean, there's steaks.

02:20:05.000 Really?

02:20:05.000 Dude.

02:20:06.000 He's a chemist.

02:20:07.000 A chemist.

02:20:07.000 He was so cool, man.

02:20:09.000 He was so cool.

02:20:10.000 Good eating.

02:20:11.000 Yeah.

02:20:11.000 He is just a natural athlete.

02:20:13.000 I mean, he's just...

02:20:14.000 Big, strong guy.

02:20:15.000 He's got some serious knee problems, man.

02:20:16.000 I wouldn't call him a natural athlete.

02:20:19.000 Well, he's a tough guy.

02:20:21.000 He's got real, real knee problems.

02:20:23.000 For sure.

02:20:23.000 Bone-on-bone arthritis in his knees.

02:20:25.000 That's why he left MMA. Tried to do some boxing.

02:20:28.000 And he also wasn't winning.

02:20:29.000 He wasn't winning, but look, he made some improvement.

02:20:31.000 He definitely made some improvement, but it was the knees. 1.00

02:20:34.000 His knees were fucked. 0.99

02:20:36.000 They weren't going to get any better either. 1.00

02:20:37.000 I hope he made some money.

02:20:38.000 He makes some money.

02:20:39.000 He makes a ton of money as security for Icy Mike and Reality Kings. 0.99

02:20:43.000 Porno! 0.95

02:20:43.000 His best friend is Icy Mike, who owns Reality Kings. 0.95

02:20:46.000 What?

02:20:47.000 Holla at your boy. 0.81

02:20:47.000 I wonder if they're making any money more. 0.81

02:20:49.000 Is it tough to make money in the Reality Kings?

02:20:51.000 Well, it's free now, right?

02:20:52.000 Like, you porn, why am I going to pay a subscription to Reality Kings?

02:20:56.000 Yeah, that's the thing. 0.96

02:20:57.000 You have to be a real fan to pay porn. 1.00

02:21:00.000 You'll be a real psycho. 0.99

02:21:01.000 I think they make money. 1.00

02:21:02.000 I said fan, you went with psycho. 1.00

02:21:04.000 Psycho, you'll be a real psycho, jacking off about ten times a day. 0.99

02:21:07.000 For a membership. 1.00

02:21:08.000 But there are dudes that become fans of a girl.

02:21:11.000 Just like they become fans of a band.

02:21:13.000 Again, if you're my friend and you're a fan of a girl and you pay for a membership, lose my number.

02:21:18.000 Don't ever, ever call me.

02:21:21.000 Or if you're a fan of girls.

02:21:23.000 Lose my number! 1.00

02:21:24.000 No, if you pay for a membership because you like one certain porno star, you're a psycho. 1.00

02:21:29.000 Well, there's some guys that have very specific tastes, like they only like Asian broads. 0.99

02:21:33.000 That's it.

02:21:34.000 Asian girls only. 0.96

02:21:35.000 Cody's like that.

02:21:36.000 I'm an equal opportunity employer.

02:21:38.000 Me too.

02:21:38.000 I don't hate.

02:21:39.000 I encourage everybody. 0.98

02:21:40.000 Well, how about guys who say they never jerk off to porn? 0.99

02:21:44.000 Ever. 1.00

02:21:45.000 Blatant lie. 0.99

02:21:46.000 They don't use porn, and if they jerk off, it's to their imagination. 1.00

02:21:50.000 Again, lose my number. 1.00

02:21:51.000 Ha ha ha!

02:21:54.000 They're lying for sure.

02:21:55.000 I don't know.

02:21:56.000 I think some people actually do have a problem with porn.

02:22:00.000 They don't like it.

02:22:01.000 They don't like the fact that they think that people are being victimized in some way.

02:22:05.000 I've never met a guy like this.

02:22:06.000 One person is making a lot of money.

02:22:07.000 I have.

02:22:07.000 I definitely have.

02:22:08.000 Really?

02:22:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:22:08.000 I've met people.

02:22:10.000 I hate to say this, but I watched...

02:22:11.000 I hate to say this.

02:22:12.000 I watched a lecture on TED.com called Why I Stop Watching Porn, and it's really, really...

02:22:19.000 Eloquent dude was talking about why it's damaging.

02:22:22.000 And ever since I listened, it's almost like now that I know football causes head injuries, it's literally like now I feel guilty.

02:22:28.000 Don't be lame.

02:22:28.000 I'm just telling you.

02:22:29.000 Don't be lame.

02:22:29.000 You guys balance each other out so well.

02:22:33.000 Lose my number.

02:22:34.000 It's one of the reasons why your podcast is so good.

02:22:36.000 You guys balance each other out so well.

02:22:38.000 I was telling Brian, someone needs to be in the room with him to let him be him.

02:22:42.000 Because if you leave him by himself, he goes, by the way, Thoreau once theorized.

02:22:48.000 That's the reason why this passion exists.

02:22:52.000 Dude, he called me up.

02:22:52.000 He called me up.

02:22:53.000 He heard me doing the Elliot Hulse thing, and he goes, hey, bro.

02:22:56.000 He goes, let me ask you something, man.

02:22:57.000 You're one of the funniest people I know.

02:22:59.000 Somebody should sue you for misrepresenting who you really are in your podcast.

02:23:03.000 For sure.

02:23:03.000 Why are you lecturing you?

02:23:04.000 You should sue yourself, I said.

02:23:06.000 He goes, just be funny, Brian.

02:23:07.000 I hate when you're serious, Brian.

02:23:09.000 Everyone loves the exact same thing.

02:23:10.000 I didn't say hate when you're serious, Brian.

02:23:12.000 I said you're two different people.

02:23:13.000 Yeah.

02:23:13.000 I said, there's you who's really you, and there's you, and it goes into lecture mode.

02:23:18.000 There's this fake, like...

02:23:18.000 But why am I doing that?

02:23:19.000 I don't even know why.

02:23:20.000 Well, I don't know.

02:23:20.000 I mean, I guess probably everybody does it.

02:23:22.000 I'm sure I do it to a certain extent, but you do it in a very extreme way.

02:23:26.000 I have these really smart people that I'm excited about.

02:23:28.000 You know when he did it?

02:23:29.000 You know when he did it?

02:23:30.000 On our biggest podcast, when I re-signed my new UFC contract, I go, Dana, I'm going to come and sign my contract.

02:23:35.000 You mind if you're on my podcast?

02:23:37.000 You did that with Dana White?

02:23:38.000 In his office, in his office, Brian sits down and goes, Mr. White...

02:23:42.000 Where did you get your inspiration from?

02:23:45.000 What? 1.00

02:23:46.000 Did you call him Mr. White, first of all, you son of a bitch? 1.00

02:23:49.000 No, I did. 1.00

02:23:49.000 I just didn't know him. 1.00

02:23:50.000 No, I didn't.

02:23:50.000 But I didn't know him.

02:23:51.000 He was dead serious.

02:23:51.000 But for the story, I did.

02:23:52.000 But I didn't know him, so I didn't know whether he had a sense of humor. 1.00

02:23:55.000 You met him with me before, you fuck. 0.99

02:23:57.000 Yeah, but not really, like, you know, talk to him. 1.00

02:23:59.000 And now, now I know he loves, he's a silly goose. 0.98

02:24:01.000 Opportunity's gone. 0.99

02:24:02.000 It's gone. 0.92

02:24:03.000 Back to the porno stars, though. 0.98

02:24:04.000 I got a buddy who's dating a porno star.

02:24:06.000 I want to know what he did during the podcast that, like, made you upset.

02:24:08.000 You can listen to it.

02:24:09.000 Dead serious, man.

02:24:09.000 Dead serious.

02:24:09.000 You can listen to it in the Fighter and a Kid podcast.

02:24:11.000 Did you over-talk?

02:24:11.000 Did you over-talk a little bit?

02:24:13.000 Not really.

02:24:13.000 No, it was just so serious.

02:24:14.000 I didn't fuck it up.

02:24:15.000 The reason why the fighter and the kid works...

02:24:18.000 Did he fuck it up? 0.95

02:24:20.000 No, no, no.

02:24:20.000 The reason why the fighter and the kid works is because we get serious people, right?

02:24:24.000 And we're clowns, man.

02:24:25.000 We get them out of their elements. 0.73

02:24:26.000 We make things fun.

02:24:27.000 We tell stories.

02:24:28.000 We did a great one with Ronda Rousey recently.

02:24:29.000 We tell stories.

02:24:31.000 Well, with Dana, he was like, where do you see yourself in 10 years?

02:24:36.000 No way.

02:24:37.000 You really said that?

02:24:37.000 I don't know what I said.

02:24:38.000 I like questions like that.

02:24:39.000 What are you, a chick? 1.00

02:24:40.000 We have really good arguments on the podcast.

02:24:43.000 We have serious arguments about whether or not Rana should take me or him on the zombie apocalypse.

02:24:48.000 All kinds of stuff.

02:24:49.000 Obviously she's taking me.

02:24:50.000 Yeah, obviously.

02:24:50.000 That wasn't much of an argument at all.

02:24:52.000 What kind of conversation?

02:24:53.000 What are you going to provide?

02:24:54.000 I said I would take Tim Kennedy.

02:24:56.000 Do you know the poisonous mushrooms or something?

02:24:58.000 Yeah, I do.

02:24:58.000 I know a lot of stuff.

02:25:01.000 You would take Tim Kennedy?

02:25:02.000 I said Tim Kennedy, and I immediately regret saying that as soon as I said it.

02:25:05.000 Why is that?

02:25:06.000 Because they gave a scenario where all the zombies, everyone's a zombie, so it's only you and one other person.

02:25:11.000 So we couldn't procreate, right?

02:25:12.000 Right.

02:25:13.000 You don't want to take Tim Kennedy.

02:25:14.000 Can't get him pregnant. 1.00

02:25:15.000 Rhonda said, yeah, Rhonda goes, I'd be a good breeding.

02:25:17.000 She said, I'm an ovarian goldmine.

02:25:19.000 I breed the army. 0.54

02:25:20.000 You need a breeding.

02:25:20.000 That's true.

02:25:21.000 You'd be breeding warriors. 0.70

02:25:22.000 Yeah.

02:25:23.000 That's a good move.

02:25:24.000 Yeah, she's the only choice.

02:25:25.000 There's a couple other choices, but for you, that's the only choice.

02:25:27.000 You can't take Tim Kennedy.

02:25:28.000 You can't get him pregnant. 1.00

02:25:29.000 By the way, if you were the only two people on Earth and you had to fucking die and leave your kids to fend for themselves against zombies, you might want to take everybody out in their sleep. 0.99

02:25:37.000 And then do yourself. 1.00

02:25:39.000 You might want to fucking end it. 0.99

02:25:40.000 For real. 0.99

02:25:41.000 If you're the last two people on Earth and the world is filled with zombies, I agree.

02:25:45.000 Nope.

02:25:45.000 Drown.

02:25:46.000 Swim out as far as you can go.

02:25:48.000 That's what I say.

02:25:48.000 Just crawl all the way out.

02:25:49.000 Fuck that. 1.00

02:25:50.000 Last person on earth? 1.00

02:25:51.000 Yeah.

02:25:51.000 Look, being a human being...

02:25:52.000 Hey! 0.99

02:25:52.000 I know who I'm not taking a foxhole. 0.99

02:25:54.000 You two.

02:25:55.000 As soon as things get a little shady...

02:25:57.000 That's a foxhole.

02:25:58.000 Rogan, shoot! 0.98

02:25:58.000 Foxhole's a war. 0.98

02:25:59.000 Oh my god, he shot himself.

02:26:00.000 Foxhole's a war. 0.99

02:26:01.000 We're talking about everybody being dead except for you and this one chick. 0.98

02:26:05.000 What kind of life is that?

02:26:06.000 Your baby's gonna be behind...

02:26:08.000 It's gonna be pretty dope. 1.00

02:26:08.000 You're gonna have to fuck your kids. 1.00

02:26:09.000 Do you understand that, how procreation works? 1.00

02:26:11.000 I do, my man. 1.00

02:26:12.000 Someone's gonna have to fuck your kids. 1.00

02:26:13.000 Your kids are gonna have to fuck each other. 1.00

02:26:15.000 No. 1.00

02:26:15.000 They're going to have to try to survive, and they still might get eaten by zombies? 1.00

02:26:19.000 Well, you guys are giving up.

02:26:21.000 Oh, what are you going to do? 1.00

02:26:21.000 You're going to fuck your kids? 1.00

02:26:22.000 No, you're going to look for other people. 1.00

02:26:25.000 You're going to look for other people.

02:26:27.000 Okay, that's what I'm saying.

02:26:28.000 If you know for sure, you're the only two people.

02:26:29.000 How would you know for sure?

02:26:31.000 You don't know for sure.

02:26:32.000 You'd have to know for sure. 1.00

02:26:32.000 You'd kill yourself. 1.00

02:26:33.000 Or you'd just figure out, I'm here for a reason, what is it? 0.98

02:26:36.000 Maybe I can figure something out.

02:26:38.000 It's a good point, though.

02:26:38.000 You wouldn't really know for sure.

02:26:39.000 You wouldn't know, but you two are giving up.

02:26:41.000 That's good to know.

02:26:42.000 I Am Legend was really like the first Walking Dead, right?

02:26:44.000 Remember when they found the camp at the end and everybody was safe?

02:26:48.000 But those monsters are way scarier than the Walking Dead monsters.

02:26:50.000 Yeah, they were.

02:26:51.000 Walking Dead?

02:26:51.000 Sign me up.

02:26:52.000 I'm just going to run everywhere.

02:26:53.000 They walk.

02:26:54.000 I'm just going to run everywhere.

02:26:55.000 I'm going to cut down to about 170. I'm going to have a nice pair of kicks on.

02:26:59.000 Cut down to 170. And I'm just going to run everywhere.

02:27:01.000 All cardio.

02:27:01.000 Yeah, all cardio.

02:27:02.000 Well, that was Zombieland.

02:27:03.000 Oh yeah, have good cardio.

02:27:05.000 That's right.

02:27:06.000 That show's a little too moody for me. 0.96

02:27:08.000 It's getting ridiculous. 0.97

02:27:09.000 They're eating people now. 1.00

02:27:10.000 They found a cannibal fucking colony. 1.00

02:27:13.000 Makes sense. 1.00

02:27:13.000 I guess, but there's plenty of deer left too. 1.00

02:27:16.000 It's not like the zombies are eating deer.

02:27:17.000 They eat a few of them, but they can't catch them.

02:27:19.000 I don't understand why everybody gets guns when you can have a sword. 0.99

02:27:23.000 I mean, it's good to have guns, but that chick never gets fucked with. 1.00

02:27:26.000 She just jacks everything with swords. 1.00

02:27:28.000 Yeah, because if you run out of bullets with a sword, you're just chopping heads off.

02:27:30.000 Yeah, you've got to reload a rifle.

02:27:33.000 It takes a couple of seconds. 1.00

02:27:34.000 You've got a fucking hundred zombies coming at you. 1.00

02:27:36.000 It takes a long time to put a hundred bullets in a chamber. 1.00

02:27:39.000 Well, good luck if a hundred zombies are coming.

02:27:41.000 You're going to take a sword and start to swing it around. 0.99

02:27:43.000 Fuck yeah, you take them a couple at a time, and you do it for about an hour, and you've got a hundred dead zombies. 0.99

02:27:47.000 Until you get the zombie like Shane Carwin, who knows single legs. 1.00

02:27:51.000 Zombies don't learn anything.

02:27:52.000 They don't even know how to use doors.

02:27:53.000 You don't pay attention.

02:27:54.000 You don't even watch that show.

02:27:55.000 You can't be in this conversation.

02:27:57.000 Please exit the conversation, sir.

02:27:59.000 They don't even unscrew doors.

02:28:02.000 Have you seen World War Z? You can just lock that door. 0.79

02:28:03.000 You've seen World War Z? Yes.

02:28:04.000 A little different.

02:28:05.000 They're different kinds of zombies.

02:28:06.000 Those are the scary, fast zombies. 0.98

02:28:08.000 Yes, that's where we're all screwed. 0.85

02:28:09.000 The scariest zombies of all time are the 28 Days Later zombies.

02:28:12.000 Remember that?

02:28:13.000 Yes.

02:28:13.000 Not only that, because that's the most likely scenario.

02:28:16.000 It was a disease like rabies.

02:28:18.000 They called it rage, a genetically created disease, a modified disease, a weaponized disease.

02:28:24.000 It escapes from the chimps and gets into people and then spreads like wildfire.

02:28:28.000 When you think about what rabies does to animals...

02:28:31.000 And people.

02:28:32.000 And people.

02:28:32.000 If somebody has rabies and you get them near a body of water, if they get near a body of water, they get so hysterical you have to chain them down.

02:28:39.000 Really?

02:28:40.000 Why water?

02:28:41.000 I don't know.

02:28:42.000 Are you making this up?

02:28:43.000 No.

02:28:43.000 Water.

02:28:44.000 You get a huge water phobia.

02:28:48.000 Oh, they get afraid of the water.

02:28:50.000 When's the last time someone got rabies?

02:28:52.000 What if rabies comes from an animal?

02:28:54.000 Before vaccines, rabies was a terrible disease.

02:28:56.000 I'm talking right now.

02:28:57.000 No, no, no.

02:28:58.000 People have gotten it really recently.

02:28:59.000 Really?

02:28:59.000 Being bit by animals.

02:29:00.000 I wonder if rabies comes from an animal and that animal has memories of drowning.

02:29:04.000 Look it up.

02:29:05.000 Look up water phobia. 0.99

02:29:06.000 Imagine that shit like we were talking about with the mice and the mice giving the remembering, the smell with the electrical shock. 0.99

02:29:13.000 It taps into a part of your brain where you actually go crazy, first of all. 1.00

02:29:15.000 You go crazy.

02:29:16.000 That's why the animal will bite you.

02:29:18.000 They go crazy.

02:29:19.000 They start to drool.

02:29:20.000 Well, they're also very aggressive.

02:29:22.000 I'm not making this up.

02:29:23.000 I had a dog bite me in the ass cheek and had rabies when I was a kid. 0.51

02:29:26.000 Really? 0.98

02:29:26.000 And you had to get a bunch of shots in your stomach. 0.98

02:29:27.000 And guess what I'm not scared of?

02:29:28.000 Horrible shots.

02:29:29.000 Dogs.

02:29:30.000 You had to get shots in your stomach.

02:29:32.000 You're the right dogs. 0.92

02:29:33.000 You'd be scared, bro.

02:29:33.000 Scared of snakes.

02:29:34.000 You ever put a...

02:29:35.000 I put a bite suit on in Afghanistan and had dogs attack me?

02:29:37.000 Whoa, where?

02:29:38.000 Afghanistan.

02:29:39.000 I was in Afghanistan.

02:29:40.000 I hate when he does that.

02:29:41.000 I hate it, too.

02:29:41.000 Afghanistan?

02:29:42.000 He switches it up, too.

02:29:43.000 I say it the way you're supposed to.

02:29:44.000 If he's around... 0.99

02:29:46.000 By the way, if he's around, like, real military guys, he takes that shit down a few notches. 0.99

02:29:51.000 He doesn't go Afghanistan. 0.99

02:29:52.000 Because he knows what's up.

02:29:53.000 Because then they'll go, what?

02:29:54.000 And you'll hear, like, silence.

02:29:55.000 Because they think I'm a plant.

02:29:57.000 They think I'm an Al-Qaeda plant.

02:29:58.000 Like, Afghanistan. 0.80

02:29:59.000 No, they don't think you're a plant. 1.00

02:30:00.000 They think you're a fucking dork. 1.00

02:30:03.000 They think you're a plant. 1.00

02:30:05.000 Yeah, they put a plant on mad TV. I lived in the Middle East eight years of my life.

02:30:09.000 Don't blame me.

02:30:10.000 Yeah.

02:30:10.000 Afghanistan.

02:30:11.000 Dude, they released these dogs...

02:30:12.000 Hydrophobia.

02:30:13.000 Fear of water.

02:30:14.000 Historic name for rabies.

02:30:16.000 Wow.

02:30:16.000 It's the historic name for rabies.

02:30:18.000 Refers to a set of symptoms.

02:30:20.000 The later stages of an infection with the victims has difficulty swallowing.

02:30:24.000 Shows panic when presented with liquids to drink and can't quench its thirst.

02:30:28.000 Wow.

02:30:29.000 So I guess that's what it is.

02:30:30.000 Like, they're scared of water because they know they got it in their mouth.

02:30:33.000 Wow.

02:30:33.000 Or even intentional suggestion of drinking may cause excruciating painful spasms of the muscles in the throat and larynx.

02:30:39.000 Wow, suggestion of drinking may cause excruciatingly painful spasms.

02:30:43.000 Yet you're really thirsty.

02:30:44.000 Great disease.

02:30:45.000 Thank you, vaccines.

02:30:47.000 Thank you, vaccines. 0.80

02:30:48.000 Thank you, the fact they can shoot you when you get bit. 0.98

02:30:52.000 Horrible needles in your stomach. 1.00

02:30:54.000 Big giant needles in your fucking stomach. 1.00

02:30:56.000 Tetanus is another really bad... 1.00

02:30:58.000 Do you know the symptoms of tetanus?

02:31:00.000 Look those up.

02:31:01.000 Look up the symptoms of tetanus.

02:31:02.000 That is the worst.

02:31:03.000 Horrible.

02:31:04.000 Your whole body seizes up, and before you die, you're very acutely aware of all the pain. 0.99

02:31:08.000 Hey, did you see the shit where John Jones is requesting that Glover Teixeira get drug tested? 0.99

02:31:14.000 Oh, no. 0.99

02:31:15.000 It's kind of fascinating.

02:31:16.000 Did they agree to a lot of testing?

02:31:19.000 Well, this is what he says.

02:31:21.000 This is his exact quote.

02:31:21.000 He says, some fighters, you just know they're not on anything just by looking at them.

02:31:25.000 I kind of disagree with that.

02:31:27.000 Because guys that look like Jeremy Horn, who doesn't look like he's on anything, have tested positive.

02:31:33.000 Just because a guy has a certain body type doesn't mean that he can't be on something.

02:31:37.000 A lot of guys have tested positive.

02:31:39.000 I think you're talking about the exception there again.

02:31:42.000 Perhaps.

02:31:43.000 But those are often the guys that wind up taking it.

02:31:45.000 Like, okay, here's a perfect example.

02:31:47.000 Tim Sylvia.

02:31:48.000 A lot of folks don't know.

02:31:49.000 Tim Sylvia tested hot.

02:31:51.000 And before Tim Sylvia tested hot, look at what he looked like when he fought Rico Rodriguez.

02:31:55.000 I think the Tim Sylvia that beat Rico Rodriguez is one of the scariest heavyweights ever.

02:32:01.000 I agree.

02:32:01.000 Great takedown defense.

02:32:03.000 Great striking.

02:32:04.000 Monster right hand.

02:32:05.000 Monster. 1.00

02:32:06.000 He couldn't keep that fucking everything. 0.99

02:32:09.000 He had tires hanging off the side, and I think he was getting criticized for it, and I feel like that's why he did steroids. 0.99

02:32:16.000 I think you're right.

02:32:17.000 I think you're right.

02:32:17.000 You wanted to look the part.

02:32:21.000 A little bit, but I also think that it benefited him physically.

02:32:28.000 Pull up Tim Sylvia vs. 0.83

02:32:31.000 Rico Rodriguez.

02:32:33.000 That's Tim when he was retired from the UFC. Now that's Tim vs.

02:32:37.000 Rico Rodriguez.

02:32:38.000 You see that image? 0.99

02:32:40.000 Look how fucking lean he was and big. 1.00

02:32:42.000 He was a dangerous motherfucker. 1.00

02:32:43.000 And he was eating Rico's leg kicks and dropping right hands on him. 1.00

02:32:47.000 So dangerous.

02:32:47.000 Pull up the video if you can find the video.

02:32:49.000 He was a scary guy.

02:32:50.000 Such a monster.

02:32:51.000 He also struggled to get down to 265 for that fight.

02:32:55.000 He struggled to get down to 265. Yeah, he missed weight.

02:32:57.000 He missed weight the first time.

02:32:58.000 What did he walk around at?

02:32:59.000 I don't know, but he was big.

02:33:02.000 Not fat, but big shoulders and neck.

02:33:06.000 Huge. 0.98

02:33:06.000 Such a monster. 0.98

02:33:07.000 John's saying he thinks Glover is on stuff.

02:33:11.000 Part of Glover Teixeira's mystique is his amazing physical strength, and I just questioned it.

02:33:16.000 I have no reason to think he's on steroids, but I do wonder how someone could be so strong.

02:33:22.000 He says, I'm sure I have fought guys in the past that were on steroids.

02:33:26.000 I think it's pretty well documented.

02:33:28.000 A lot of people haven't really argued with it because they know it's a true statement.

02:33:33.000 I know it's a true statement.

02:33:35.000 I called Dana White and said, I want Glover to take steroid tests for this fight. 1.00

02:33:39.000 He asked me, what do you think he's on steroids?

02:33:42.000 And I told him, I don't know.

02:33:43.000 I have no reason to accuse him of anything, but I would like to be sure.

02:33:48.000 How can he be mad at that?

02:33:50.000 He can't be mad at that.

02:33:51.000 I don't know, man.

02:33:52.000 I'm not mad at that at all.

02:33:54.000 If he came out and was like, hey, Glover's on stuff, that would be an issue.

02:33:57.000 There's Tim Silvio when he fought Rico.

02:33:59.000 Good takedown defense.

02:34:00.000 Wow, look at that. 1.00

02:34:01.000 Big motherfucker, too. 1.00

02:34:03.000 Rico had a good guard, too, man. 1.00

02:34:04.000 Rico's a legit Machado black belt.

02:34:06.000 For sure.

02:34:08.000 Tim Sylvie was scary back then, man.

02:34:10.000 Super scary.

02:34:11.000 And he knocked a lot of guys out, man.

02:34:12.000 A lot of people sleep on Tim Sylvie.

02:34:14.000 He never gets brought up because he had sort of a dispute with the UFC, but head kick Trey Tellingman knocked him out.

02:34:20.000 And Tim Sylvie was not a natural athlete, by the way.

02:34:23.000 Not at all.

02:34:23.000 This is all from toughness and training.

02:34:25.000 I mean, he's pigeon-toed, in fact.

02:34:27.000 His feet, like, naturally went towards each other.

02:34:30.000 And here he stuffs a takedown again.

02:34:32.000 Roughs him up on the ground.

02:34:34.000 And Tim Sylvia, back then, you know, I mean, you're dealing with a guy really... 0.98

02:34:38.000 Rico's got a good fucking high guard here. 0.99

02:34:41.000 Nasty guard. 0.99

02:34:42.000 Yeah, and he was, like I said, a legit Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt. 0.91

02:34:45.000 Very high-level black belt.

02:34:47.000 Especially at the time.

02:34:48.000 You know, at the time, Rico was one of very few Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belts in the heavyweight division.

02:34:54.000 There wasn't a lot of guys.

02:34:55.000 Did you see him sit in Oguero's guard?

02:34:57.000 Wrist control.

02:34:58.000 Yep, yeah.

02:34:59.000 Yeah.

02:35:00.000 Tim Sylvia, at this time, I think was one of the scariest guys ever.

02:35:04.000 I agree with you.

02:35:05.000 But who knows how much of it was...

02:35:08.000 Hard training, first of all, for sure.

02:35:10.000 It was definitely some steroids involved.

02:35:12.000 Look at that, look at that.

02:35:13.000 Whipped over for that arm bar. 0.98

02:35:14.000 That was pretty fucking sweet. 1.00

02:35:15.000 Damn! 1.00

02:35:16.000 That was pretty fucking sweet. 1.00

02:35:17.000 Spikes him, gets out of it. 0.99

02:35:19.000 That was a goddamn sweet arm bar. 0.99

02:35:20.000 Rico had a nasty arm bar. 0.99

02:35:22.000 I'll tell you what, Rico had a nice little appearance on Celebrity Rehab, too.

02:35:26.000 I watched it.

02:35:26.000 All of it.

02:35:27.000 Oh, no.

02:35:27.000 With Dr. Drew.

02:35:28.000 What was wrong with him?

02:35:29.000 What was he doing?

02:35:30.000 Everything.

02:35:31.000 Oh, drugs.

02:35:32.000 He likes a little booger sugar. 0.99

02:35:33.000 He likes to have a good time.

02:35:35.000 He was known for partying.

02:35:36.000 Yeah.

02:35:37.000 Well, you know what?

02:35:37.000 He likes to have a good time, that Tim Sylvia.

02:35:40.000 I mean, that Rico Rodriguez.

02:35:41.000 Rico Rodriguez.

02:35:42.000 I'm not mad at him.

02:35:43.000 He's a fun guy, man.

02:35:44.000 He's a fun guy to hang around with.

02:35:46.000 And there's the right hand.

02:35:47.000 He starts keeping the fight standing.

02:35:50.000 I'll tell you what.

02:35:50.000 My only experience with Rico, the only time I ever met him, he was cornering Tito Ortiz.

02:35:55.000 We're on the same card.

02:35:56.000 And...

02:36:02.000 We're good to go.

02:36:19.000 Ha! 1.00

02:36:20.000 What a dick! 1.00

02:36:21.000 What a dick to say. 1.00

02:36:23.000 That's a fucking mindfuck. 1.00

02:36:25.000 Former UFC heavyweight champion. 1.00

02:36:26.000 For sure.

02:36:26.000 And I was a fan.

02:36:27.000 I was like, oh, thanks, bro.

02:36:29.000 Who said this to you?

02:36:30.000 Rico Rodriguez.

02:36:32.000 That's hilarious.

02:36:33.000 That's hilarious.

02:36:34.000 That's really funny.

02:36:35.000 Funny, right? 1.00

02:36:36.000 Made me feel like shit. 1.00

02:36:37.000 I was like, damn. 1.00

02:36:38.000 It's a fucking bad time to feel like shit. 1.00

02:36:40.000 Did you see this? 1.00

02:36:41.000 Bisping and Tim Kennedy at the press conference.

02:36:45.000 Bisping was swearing at him. 1.00

02:36:47.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:36:47.000 You fucked this. 1.00

02:36:48.000 Chael and I were talking about this. 1.00

02:36:49.000 Bisping legitimately makes a reason to hate you to get ready for the fight.

02:36:54.000 Yeah, look at this.

02:36:56.000 Meanwhile, you know, he's trying to scare Tim Kennedy, who's been to war.

02:37:00.000 I know!

02:37:01.000 Tim Kennedy has been through a lot of bad guys.

02:37:04.000 Tim's just grinning, man.

02:37:06.000 He's killed a lot of bad guys.

02:37:07.000 Like, the difference between the fear that he's experienced and the fear of, like, a fight and the preparation for a fight, this is like a vacation for him.

02:37:15.000 It really is.

02:37:15.000 Kenny is rough.

02:37:16.000 His mental toughness is crazy. 0.59

02:37:19.000 You're not messing with him.

02:37:19.000 Listen, he is as tough as a human being.

02:37:22.000 Yeah, hands down.

02:37:24.000 Podger Gracie had his back.

02:37:25.000 That was cool.

02:37:26.000 Like he was chilling on the beach.

02:37:27.000 Did not care.

02:37:28.000 Double wrist control.

02:37:29.000 We saw a lot of combat.

02:37:31.000 It's a different world, man.

02:37:32.000 That world of fear.

02:37:33.000 In firefights.

02:37:34.000 Yeah, in firefights.

02:37:35.000 Killed bad guys.

02:37:37.000 You know, that's his thing.

02:37:38.000 Fighting Bisbing's probably not that much fight.

02:37:41.000 Life and death.

02:37:42.000 I mean there's some of the stories that he tells about his firefights and the things that he can't remember how many firefights he's been in.

02:37:49.000 How about that?

02:37:50.000 Who do you have in that fight?

02:37:51.000 Mouthing off!

02:37:52.000 It's a good fight.

02:37:53.000 It's a good fight. 0.92

02:37:54.000 Michael Bisping has a fucking tremendous pace that he can keep. 0.99

02:37:57.000 Michael Bisping has a fucking 34 hearts beat per minute resting heart rate. 1.00

02:38:01.000 That's incredible. 1.00

02:38:03.000 It's the opposite of Shane Carlin.

02:38:06.000 Well, Kane is a freak of nature, man.

02:38:09.000 He really is a freak of nature when it comes to his cardio.

02:38:11.000 You talk to Bob Cook, he says that Kane will take, like, a month off, get injured, come back in, outwork everybody.

02:38:16.000 Like, it doesn't make any sense.

02:38:17.000 Like, he doesn't have these, like, break-in periods where he has to get back in shape.

02:38:20.000 And some of that is just genetic. 0.98

02:38:22.000 Just like some people have incredible fast-twitch muscle fiber, we've met guys that have never lifted weights, and they're fucking gigantic. 1.00

02:38:28.000 Big calves and shit. 1.00

02:38:29.000 Weird. 1.00

02:38:30.000 Guy doesn't even have weights.

02:38:31.000 But look at Kane.

02:38:31.000 I wouldn't say Kane's really explosive.

02:38:33.000 He kind of has that softer body where his endurance is going to be higher.

02:38:37.000 It's 100% genetics.

02:38:39.000 Yeah.

02:38:39.000 Well, he definitely doesn't have the same kind of explosive.

02:38:41.000 Could you look at guys like Hector Lombard, who's just jacked to the gills. 0.90

02:38:45.000 His ears have freaking traps. 0.99

02:38:47.000 You know, he's just like swole. 1.00

02:38:49.000 All explosiveness.

02:38:51.000 No one's more explosive than Hector.

02:38:52.000 I agree.

02:38:53.000 He's the most explosive guy that's ever fought in MMA. He's like right up there with Melvin Manhoof.

02:38:57.000 I think he's even more explosive than Melvin.

02:38:58.000 Well, I think so too because of the judo.

02:39:00.000 And they said, Hector, you're giant swole muscles.

02:39:04.000 Let's give you the vegan Jake Shields.

02:39:06.000 Let's see how this goes.

02:39:08.000 And fight.

02:39:09.000 And fight.

02:39:11.000 Vegan steroids.

02:39:12.000 Jake caught his neck.

02:39:13.000 Jake caught his neck with the last remaining seconds of the fight.

02:39:15.000 He caught his neck and was hanging on. 0.99

02:39:17.000 Jake's got a goddamn vice for a grip. 1.00

02:39:20.000 When he gets that guillotine, man, he tightens that shit up on Robbie Lawler. 1.00

02:39:23.000 He tightens that shit up on everybody. 1.00

02:39:24.000 And you don't think he's going to be able to get it. 1.00

02:39:26.000 There's a lot of guys who think they can get out of that. 0.99

02:39:29.000 Jake's strong as fuck, man. 0.97

02:39:30.000 I'm actually going to train with him on Friday in San Francisco. 1.00

02:39:33.000 Hector Lombard, motherfucker, hit some judo throws in this fight against Jake Shields that you just ragdolled him. 0.98

02:39:41.000 If ever there's a reason why, hey dad, why can't I be vegan? 0.99

02:39:44.000 Look at this!

02:39:44.000 Boom!

02:39:45.000 Watch that again.

02:39:46.000 It's insane.

02:39:46.000 Just back that up again.

02:39:48.000 Just back that up to that judo toss. 1.00

02:39:50.000 Back it up all the way.

02:39:52.000 To do this in a world-class grappler like Jake Shields is just insane.

02:39:57.000 Watch this.

02:39:58.000 Boom! 0.99

02:39:59.000 He does it with perfect technique and speed.

02:40:04.000 He's one of those storms of athleticism and technique.

02:40:08.000 And really, you know, started striking once he was already an Olympic judoka.

02:40:13.000 I mean, that's when he started striking. 0.99

02:40:15.000 So he prefers to keep fights standing just because he's such a fucking specimen. 0.99

02:40:21.000 Oh, you want to be a vegan? 0.99

02:40:22.000 I'm going to play that tape for you.

02:40:24.000 Oh, you want to be a vegan?

02:40:25.000 Here, watch this fight.

02:40:26.000 Like, in all fairness, when you talk about a style like Jake Shields, it's kind of like what we were talking about, though.

02:40:30.000 Could be a worse matchup.

02:40:31.000 Yeah.

02:40:32.000 They were trying to get rid of him.

02:40:33.000 Well, I don't think so.

02:40:34.000 They were just trying to give him a fight that was going to be a really tough fight.

02:40:36.000 Yeah.

02:40:37.000 Yeah.

02:40:37.000 I mean, look, it's like if you want to be in the top ten and he wanted a title shot, like if he beat, look, what if he caught him with that guillotine the first round and finished it?

02:40:45.000 You know, he's likely in the short list for a title shot.

02:40:48.000 If he could finish a guy like Hector Lombard.

02:40:51.000 That'd be five in a row, yeah. 0.98

02:40:52.000 But you see a guy like Hector Lombard, that style of fucking sprinting, you can't do it for three rounds. 0.97

02:40:59.000 Can you even do it for five rounds? 0.97

02:41:00.000 I want to see him fight Tyron Woodley.

02:41:02.000 I think he's going to fight him.

02:41:03.000 Woodley's fighting Rory, man.

02:41:05.000 That's a great fight.

02:41:06.000 Rory McDonald vs.

02:41:07.000 Woodley is a fantastic fight.

02:41:08.000 Amazing fight.

02:41:08.000 Especially if the Rory that beat Damian Maia shows up.

02:41:11.000 If Rory is motivated and aggressive, he's got to get the fuck away from Woodley in that first round though, buddy! 0.77

02:41:17.000 Woo! 0.99

02:41:18.000 And Woodley, it's, you know, Woodley can move as fast as any fucking human being in the UFC. I don't care if they're 135 pounds. 0.98

02:41:25.000 I agree. 1.00

02:41:26.000 At 170, that fucking dude can move like a fast 135er. 1.00

02:41:30.000 He's just that explosive. 0.99

02:41:31.000 He's as big as you can ever get and be a world-class 170-pounder.

02:41:37.000 And it's an interesting situation because there's a lot of debate after I talked about it on the broadcast about this body type.

02:41:46.000 It has its benefits for sure as far as explosion and speed, but it also has a lot of requirements for oxygen.

02:41:53.000 Oxygen, yeah.

02:41:53.000 And it's like, can a guy take it deep into the rounds?

02:41:57.000 What happens if a guy survives fourth and fifth?

02:41:59.000 Because when Nate beat him, Nate beat him in the fourth round.

02:42:02.000 Marquardt stopped him in the Strikeforce welterweight title fight.

02:42:05.000 And that's what happened.

02:42:06.000 Nate caught him slowing down.

02:42:08.000 And Nate then was before he's had a couple of these bad knockouts.

02:42:13.000 Like the knockout against Hector Lombard.

02:42:15.000 Nate's as tough as it gets.

02:42:17.000 When he fought Tyron Woodley, you're talking about Nate Marquardt.

02:42:21.000 At his best.

02:42:21.000 But it's back against the wall, too, because he'd been kicked out of the UFC. Finally gets back into Strikeforce, and he gets a shot at the title at Strikeforce.

02:42:29.000 It's a big fight, and Nate was primed.

02:42:32.000 He was in his prime.

02:42:33.000 But look, a guy like Tyron Woodley, who's a superior athlete, he's just an elite athlete, It's still learning the MMA skills.

02:42:41.000 But it's like what we were talking about before is that what you're seeing now is guys who are on an athletic level like you've never had the UFC before.

02:42:49.000 Go back to UFC 1 and you watch some of these guys who are decent athletes, good athletes, tough guys, and had incredible balls to get into the UFC at that time.

02:43:01.000 Put Tyron Woodley in UFC 1!

02:43:03.000 It's crazy.

02:43:04.000 Boyce Gracie ain't taking that dude down. 1.00

02:43:06.000 No.

02:43:06.000 That's not happening.

02:43:07.000 Nothing's happening.

02:43:08.000 There's nothing happening.

02:43:08.000 Just the evolution of the sport.

02:43:10.000 Yeah.

02:43:10.000 I mean, if you watch when Tyron Woodley beat Jay Heron, no one existed that could move that fast until recently.

02:43:17.000 No one existed in the UFC. Within the last five, six years, you start to see these guys trickle in that have that kind of explosion, have that kind of athleticism, that kind of speed.

02:43:25.000 And Hector is right up there.

02:43:27.000 It's like Hector and Tyron.

02:43:29.000 So it's like, as someone who analyzes fights and analyzes, like, there's a point of diminishing returns.

02:43:34.000 Like, what's the best body type?

02:43:36.000 Is it super muscular, like Hector Lombard?

02:43:39.000 Or is it like a Carlos Condit guy that's super durable and can last round after round?

02:43:44.000 You know, in the Woodley fight we saw, Woodley won. 0.69

02:43:46.000 I mean, he fucked up Tyron's knee.

02:43:48.000 It wasn't really a fight. 0.99

02:43:50.000 His leg fell off.

02:43:51.000 His leg got hurt in the takedown, and then he hurt it again when he leg kicked him.

02:43:55.000 It's not the same as him beating him with no injuries, but the bottom line is he wins.

02:44:02.000 You know what I mean?

02:44:04.000 You can't quantify it the same way as a knockout or a submission.

02:44:08.000 It's similar to Kane vs.

02:44:10.000 Brock Lesnar.

02:44:11.000 One guy's just swole to the gills.

02:44:13.000 The other guy, if you saw him with a shirt off, you're like, there's no way you're the best.

02:44:17.000 Except the fact that Woodley was still there in the second round.

02:44:21.000 And he was still going at it in the second round.

02:44:23.000 You're right about that.

02:44:25.000 There's a balance.

02:44:27.000 Too muscular has its liabilities.

02:44:29.000 They add that debate about what's the perfect weight for the heavyweight, like a boxer.

02:44:33.000 When you get to a certain weight, you start losing speed and power.

02:44:36.000 So is it 230?

02:44:38.000 Is it 240?

02:44:38.000 Is it 235?

02:44:39.000 It depends on the body.

02:44:40.000 I think Bo Jackson.

02:44:41.000 I'll tell you what.

02:44:41.000 Remember Bo Jackson at 245?

02:44:43.000 That freaky athlete.

02:44:44.000 He would have been.

02:44:45.000 Didn't need lift weights, you know?

02:44:46.000 No. 0.99

02:44:47.000 Ridiculous. 0.97

02:44:47.000 He would have been probably, that's probably the optimal. 0.97

02:44:52.000 And you know what he does now?

02:44:53.000 Bow hunts. 0.95

02:44:54.000 Yeah, he does. 1.00

02:44:54.000 That's his shit, man. 1.00

02:44:55.000 Talked to him about hunting for, oh, I don't know, about two hours. 1.00

02:44:59.000 Did you?

02:44:59.000 When?

02:45:00.000 When?

02:45:00.000 Hold.

02:45:01.000 You saw Bo Jackson, that's what you talked about?

02:45:03.000 Uh-huh.

02:45:04.000 Hunting?

02:45:04.000 And he talked about killing raccoons.

02:45:05.000 That's what he wants to talk about.

02:45:07.000 That's what he wants to talk about.

02:45:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:45:09.000 Like, he's obsessed with it.

02:45:09.000 Oh, by the way, we talked about football and baseball, too.

02:45:12.000 You better have.

02:45:12.000 Oh, yeah.

02:45:13.000 Yeah.

02:45:14.000 Auburn football, Heisman winner.

02:45:15.000 You know what he said about football?

02:45:16.000 He said, well, I never lift the weights when I played football.

02:45:19.000 He was about 6'2", 245 then.

02:45:21.000 And I said, what?

02:45:23.000 He goes, I just strapped it on.

02:45:26.000 And I just go in there and I hear them whispering, Bo's in the game, Bo's in the game.

02:45:29.000 And he would just run through dudes.

02:45:30.000 And he said baseball was way harder.

02:45:32.000 He thought of it as a very, very cerebral game, way more so.

02:45:36.000 Here's Bo hunting. 0.95

02:45:37.000 Bo knows hunting.

02:45:41.000 He's in a tree.

02:45:42.000 Much like myself, Bo not only enjoys hunting big bucks, but he loves to shoot a few arrows in between.

02:45:48.000 Shoot a few what?

02:45:49.000 Arrows. 1.00

02:45:50.000 How bad are these narrators in these fucking hunting shows? 1.00

02:45:53.000 Can we get better production value? 1.00

02:45:55.000 No, they get a dollar an episode.

02:45:57.000 Put it together.

02:45:58.000 You gotta pay for your own flight on Southwest. 1.00

02:46:01.000 You get out there, they're filming this shit with fucking handy cams. 1.00

02:46:05.000 Oh my god, fast forward to this so we don't have to hear it. 1.00

02:46:09.000 Just get to the part where Bo shoots it.

02:46:11.000 Here he is.

02:46:12.000 I wonder if he can pull back a 90-pound bow.

02:46:14.000 He probably doesn't even feel it.

02:46:16.000 He's moving nice and slow, too. 0.99

02:46:18.000 He's a straight-up killer. 0.97

02:46:19.000 Look at Bo, too. 0.98

02:46:19.000 Yeah, that's a light bow because he's pulling it back nice and slow. 0.98

02:46:21.000 That deer's about an inch high.

02:46:23.000 Oh, he's in a tree.

02:46:28.000 Boom.

02:46:30.000 Yeah.

02:46:31.000 Hey, I got an idea.

02:46:32.000 Next time we bring Bo Jackson up, let's show some highlights of him destroying guys on the football field.

02:46:37.000 Well, that's what he likes now.

02:46:39.000 He likes doing that.

02:46:40.000 Well, I don't like Bo Jackson anymore.

02:46:43.000 Because Bo Jackson bow hunts?

02:46:46.000 Bo Jackson's super boring?

02:46:48.000 You know what I find is fascinating? 0.99

02:46:49.000 Herschel motherfucking Walker. 0.98

02:46:51.000 Almost 50. Still jacked. 0.99

02:46:54.000 Is he 51?

02:46:55.000 Well, he had his last fight when he was like 49. Uh-huh.

02:46:58.000 Uh-huh.

02:46:58.000 Insane.

02:46:59.000 And by the way, take a look at his body.

02:47:00.000 Thanks, man.

02:47:01.000 There he is against the Broncos doing work.

02:47:03.000 Shredded. 0.96

02:47:04.000 You don't want to see him sitting in a tree?

02:47:05.000 He's a super athlete.

02:47:06.000 Shooting a deer with a bow? 0.99

02:47:08.000 Herschel Walker's ridiculous. 0.99

02:47:09.000 If he started when he was young, we'd all be in trouble. 0.97

02:47:11.000 We'd all be in trouble. 1.00

02:47:12.000 No shit, right? 1.00

02:47:13.000 He'd rip people's faces off. 1.00

02:47:14.000 Who's that? 0.95

02:47:15.000 Herschel Walker.

02:47:16.000 It's incredible that he had MMA fights in Strikeforce, deep into his 40s.

02:47:19.000 Crazy.

02:47:20.000 See if you pull up a Hershel Walker MMA fight. 0.85

02:47:22.000 Let's not get crazy.

02:47:23.000 Look at that.

02:47:24.000 Look at that.

02:47:24.000 48. Let's not get crazy.

02:47:26.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:47:27.000 No, he's shredded, but he's fighting Billy from Kinko's, who barely made it to the arena and tossed on a mouthpiece and whooped his ass. 0.99

02:47:34.000 Yeah, but still, he's 48. He wasn't fighting top-notch guys. 0.98

02:47:37.000 Didn't he fight Chad Griggs?

02:47:40.000 Who did Hershel Walker fight?

02:47:44.000 Are you saying Chad Greggs is world class right now?

02:47:47.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

02:47:48.000 He's a very good fighter.

02:47:49.000 He's a legit fighter.

02:47:50.000 Chad Greggs is legit. 1.00

02:47:52.000 Don't you shit on him, you son of a bitch. 1.00

02:47:54.000 I'm not shitting on anybody. 1.00

02:47:55.000 Who's he fighting here?

02:47:57.000 Someone with a pretty good guard, man.

02:48:00.000 Oh yeah, that was the... 0.99

02:48:08.000 Damn, he was big. 0.99

02:48:10.000 48 years old here and completely shredded. 0.99

02:48:14.000 There's a difference in athleticism, man, when you get to this level.

02:48:18.000 When you get to a Herschel Walker, you're dealing with a 1 in 100 million yen game.

02:48:22.000 First of all, I talk about this in jiu-jitsu.

02:48:24.000 There's black belts, and then there's the 1% black belts.

02:48:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:48:28.000 Like Bushesha, Hodger.

02:48:30.000 Hickson.

02:48:31.000 Yes, those guys.

02:48:33.000 So he was...

02:48:34.000 To make it to the NFL, you're the 1% of all football players.

02:48:37.000 He was the 1% of 1%ers in the NFL. That's insane. 0.83

02:48:42.000 Insane.

02:48:42.000 And 1% of 1%ers all time.

02:48:44.000 And right now, we're watching him on Strikeforce beat up some poor white guy who has no business being in this.

02:48:49.000 Scott Carson and Greg Nagy are the guys that he fought.

02:48:53.000 He never fought Chad Griggs.

02:48:55.000 My apologies to Mr. Griggs.

02:48:57.000 He's 48. Calm down, you over there.

02:48:58.000 I'm just saying.

02:48:59.000 I'll take Brian or...

02:49:02.000 Didn't you fight like some guys that maybe didn't have the...

02:49:05.000 He's 52. Yeah.

02:49:07.000 No, he is a monster. 0.98

02:49:08.000 Don't get me wrong. 0.96

02:49:09.000 He still looks great.

02:49:10.000 Yes.

02:49:10.000 I would take his body over mine right now.

02:49:12.000 Exercise is a religion to him.

02:49:14.000 TRT? He doesn't take that.

02:49:15.000 You sure?

02:49:16.000 I would be very surprised.

02:49:17.000 He also says that he only eats a bowl of soup and a salad at dinner.

02:49:21.000 That's all he eats.

02:49:21.000 Well, but he eats other stuff.

02:49:23.000 Oh, that's not what he says.

02:49:24.000 Exercise has always been a religion to him.

02:49:26.000 Well, you know, he also had like an issue, a trauma-related issue with like multiple personality disorder.

02:49:33.000 Oh, I didn't know that.

02:49:34.000 Yeah, he had something that was going on.

02:49:36.000 I heard about this.

02:49:37.000 Yeah, it was going on before he had an MMA career.

02:49:39.000 And everybody was like, wait a minute, if he's had a trauma-related multiple personality disorder.

02:49:46.000 Here, I'll pull that up.

02:49:48.000 Yeah.

02:49:49.000 Multiple personality disorder.

02:49:51.000 Yeah.

02:49:52.000 And then he started fighting.

02:49:53.000 He said, you know what?

02:49:54.000 I'm bipolar. 1.00

02:49:55.000 Let's take punches in the face. 1.00

02:49:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:49:57.000 CNN, way back in... 0.99

02:49:59.000 When was this article out?

02:50:01.000 In 2008, he put out a book about it.

02:50:06.000 And it was a book about his multiple personalities.

02:50:09.000 And they believe that...

02:50:10.000 I believe it's trauma related.

02:50:12.000 I should probably Google that too.

02:50:14.000 I don't think that...

02:50:17.000 I mean...

02:50:17.000 I'll be honest, since I've started fighting, I'm a little more serious.

02:50:21.000 A little quicker trigger for sure.

02:50:23.000 If something's getting on my nerves or I'm with someone, I used to be super more laid back, I'd say.

02:50:29.000 Okay, it says it usually has its roots in childhood trauma.

02:50:32.000 Okay, so that might not mean head injury.

02:50:35.000 It might mean, like, abuse.

02:50:37.000 Yeah.

02:50:38.000 Cope with trauma or abuse.

02:50:40.000 Hmm.

02:50:41.000 I don't know.

02:50:43.000 Um...

02:50:45.000 And also, it has to do with PTSD. So I guess it is talking about abuse, about not physical, not like head.

02:50:52.000 Being treated.

02:50:53.000 But I mean, just think about the amount of head trauma that you have to get playing football at a high level.

02:50:58.000 It's unavoidable.

02:50:58.000 There's no, right?

02:50:59.000 You did it.

02:51:00.000 It's unavoidable.

02:51:01.000 Unavoidable.

02:51:02.000 And really, it's practice.

02:51:03.000 It's the practice that does it.

02:51:05.000 How many times do you think you got concussions while playing football?

02:51:09.000 I don't know, five or six?

02:51:10.000 Not that many.

02:51:11.000 I was smart about it.

02:51:12.000 You were aware of the risks of it.

02:51:14.000 It's kind of crazy that five or six is like a low end.

02:51:17.000 And I played fullback, H-back, where if you guys know the position, you're constantly running five yards.

02:51:25.000 It's ridiculous now that I think about it.

02:51:26.000 Five yards apart, you run as fast as you can into that guy with your head first.

02:51:29.000 That's what I was doing nonstop.

02:51:31.000 Jesus Christ.

02:51:32.000 That's crazy.

02:51:33.000 Again, why wouldn't someone sit me down and be like, Brendan, listen, man, I don't think it's beneficial for your life to run into that guy.

02:51:40.000 But meanwhile, you had success at that.

02:51:43.000 That led you to success at MMA. Pay for college, yeah.

02:51:45.000 Well, I said to him, I asked him if he would have traded his football career in for training at MMA, and he said no.

02:51:50.000 Because it taught you to compete?

02:51:51.000 No, not back then.

02:51:52.000 The competition level wasn't high enough.

02:51:54.000 No, I'm saying it taught you to...

02:51:55.000 For sure.

02:51:56.000 It gave you something.

02:51:57.000 Dude, I was training with killers.

02:51:59.000 You're talking about some of the very best athletes in the world, day in, day out competing, weight room competing, on the field competing.

02:52:06.000 So I just learned mental toughness.

02:52:09.000 You can't pay for that.

02:52:10.000 At the time, in 2001, 2000, there wasn't that in MMA. You know what I'm saying?

02:52:15.000 Yeah.

02:52:15.000 Wow.

02:52:16.000 Fun times, boys. 1.00

02:52:18.000 This is a fun fucking podcast. 1.00

02:52:19.000 In three hours, just flew by. 0.99

02:52:21.000 Let's do it.

02:52:22.000 Let's pee my pants. 0.68

02:52:23.000 We should analyze the UFCs.

02:52:24.000 Yeah, let's do some post-UFC podcasts.

02:52:27.000 We'll do that.

02:52:28.000 Let's meet in a couple weeks after Jon Jones fights Glover.

02:52:31.000 You want to do that?

02:52:32.000 Not this weekend coming up, but the weekend after that.

02:52:34.000 I'm down.

02:52:34.000 Let's do it.

02:52:35.000 Yeah, let's do that.

02:52:35.000 Let's do a post-UFC wrap-up.

02:52:37.000 We'll sit down and discuss it and talk about the undercard and all the shit that's coming up. 0.96

02:52:42.000 Let's do it. 0.95

02:52:42.000 And how Floyd Mayweather would get tapped out by Ronda Rousey. 0.95

02:52:45.000 There you go.

02:52:45.000 We didn't even talk about that.

02:52:46.000 We didn't even get into it.

02:52:47.000 How much time do we have left?

02:52:48.000 How many minutes?

02:52:49.000 How much minutes do we have left?

02:52:51.000 Five.

02:52:52.000 We have five minutes?

02:52:53.000 We can do this.

02:52:53.000 Yeah.

02:52:54.000 It's not even a comparison.

02:52:55.000 No.

02:52:56.000 It's not even a fight.

02:52:57.000 If he learned how to have takedown defense, he would have to work on that for a long time.

02:53:01.000 But the people online are freaking out.

02:53:05.000 About what?

02:53:05.000 I was on Sports Nation today.

02:53:06.000 Great show.

02:53:07.000 And they asked me.

02:53:08.000 Great show. 0.99

02:53:08.000 Max Kellerman is fucking awesome. 0.99

02:53:10.000 I love that guy. 0.96

02:53:10.000 Smart guy, right? 0.96

02:53:11.000 He's such a good...

02:53:11.000 Knows his boxing.

02:53:12.000 He's the best boxing commentator ever.

02:53:13.000 Do you know he used to be a rapper?

02:53:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:53:15.000 Him and his brother, right?

02:53:16.000 Yeah.

02:53:17.000 Yeah, his brother was murdered by a boxer that he was a roommate with.

02:53:21.000 What?

02:53:22.000 Yeah, it's a terrible story.

02:53:23.000 Yeah.

02:53:24.000 What do you mean?

02:53:25.000 The guy killed him. 0.64

02:53:26.000 Killed him with like a hammer. 0.97

02:53:27.000 Ugh. 0.99

02:53:28.000 Yeah.

02:53:29.000 What a bummer.

02:53:30.000 Yeah, it's a...

02:53:30.000 Wow.

02:53:31.000 I don't know the full story.

02:53:32.000 I read it online.

02:53:33.000 Jesus.

02:53:34.000 Wow.

02:53:34.000 Back to Ronda destroying Floyd Mayweather, that would 100% happen.

02:53:38.000 It's again like we were talking about.

02:53:39.000 Like, I can't play tennis.

02:53:40.000 I don't know how to play tennis.

02:53:41.000 If I play tennis with someone who knows what they're doing, I'm going to get slaughtered.

02:53:44.000 If you don't know judo, and if you don't know how to grapple, and you don't know takedown defense, and you let that girl clinch with you, you're going flying. 0.74

02:53:51.000 Dude, I've seen Ronna get a hold of MMA professional men, 215, 220 pounds, tosses them. 1.00

02:53:59.000 These guys have a clue of what they're doing.

02:54:02.000 Little lone, you know what I'm saying?

02:54:04.000 Floyd Mayweather, who has no clue, and he's tiny.

02:54:07.000 Yeah.

02:54:07.000 He's tiny.

02:54:08.000 Yeah, and she's a 150-pound woman, or 145-pound woman. 1.00

02:54:14.000 135 when she fights? 0.92

02:54:15.000 She walks at heavier than 140, too.

02:54:17.000 She walks at 150. She never gets out of shape.

02:54:20.000 She's just shredded all the time. 1.00

02:54:22.000 You should see her mom.

02:54:23.000 Her mom's on a keyboard all day, jacked, abs, abs, Forearms shredded. 0.98

02:54:30.000 Her mom's a world champion in judo, man. 1.00

02:54:33.000 That's some DNA. That's also some DNA, just like we were talking about those mice.

02:54:37.000 That shit gets transferred. 0.99

02:54:39.000 But it only got transferred to her because they're sisters. 1.00

02:54:41.000 They're successful in their arenas, but they're not successful like Ronda in combat sports.

02:54:45.000 Well, maybe they have that inside them.

02:54:47.000 They just chose not to pursue it for whatever reason. 0.98

02:54:50.000 Some people, they get weird shit where they don't want to do what their parents did. 0.94

02:54:53.000 But you know what's weird? 0.96

02:54:55.000 We talk about jeans.

02:54:56.000 How about Arnold Schwarzenegger's kids?

02:54:58.000 What do they look like? 1.00

02:54:59.000 Shit. 1.00

02:55:01.000 They're all skinny. 1.00

02:55:03.000 His daughter's cute.

02:55:04.000 They're all super skinny.

02:55:06.000 But you think Arnold Schwarzenegger, you think they're going to be jacked.

02:55:10.000 Why aren't you doing squats?

02:55:11.000 You're not doing anything with your glutes, your hamstrings, your back is very narrow.

02:55:16.000 If you want women to be sexually attracted to you, you want to come inside them, you've got to lift your body, it's going to be strong to lift weights, you've got to run, you've got to do steroids! 0.78

02:55:29.000 Is that his daughter? 0.75

02:55:30.000 His daughter's cute.

02:55:31.000 Oh, she's a cutie pie. 1.00

02:55:33.000 Try and find the sons.

02:55:34.000 I think they're actors.

02:55:36.000 Let's not shame these poor boys on the podcast.

02:55:39.000 Leave it on a positive note.

02:55:41.000 The girl's attractive. 1.00

02:55:42.000 The girl's attractive. 1.00

02:55:43.000 I hope he's a great dad.

02:55:44.000 The kid who he had with the maid?

02:55:46.000 The little Mexican dude? 1.00

02:55:48.000 Jacked! 0.73

02:55:50.000 He got the good genes.

02:55:51.000 He looks like Conan.

02:55:52.000 Good combination.

02:55:53.000 Austrian and Mexican.

02:55:55.000 Survival!

02:55:58.000 Don't! 0.57

02:55:58.000 What did I say? 0.57

02:55:59.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:56:03.000 Anyway. 1.00

02:56:04.000 I'm sure these kids are talented.

02:56:06.000 For the record, I'm sure the kid's super talented. 1.00

02:56:07.000 We don't have to shame his fucking son. 1.00

02:56:10.000 I'm sure he's super talented. 1.00

02:56:12.000 I'm just saying he's not going to win Mr. Olympia.

02:56:14.000 That's all I'm saying.

02:56:15.000 Is that fair?

02:56:16.000 Well, maybe he would if he started lifting and taking steroids.

02:56:18.000 It takes a lot of time and steroids.

02:56:20.000 Nobody's winning Mr. Olympia.

02:56:21.000 And jeans.

02:56:23.000 I'm sure his jeans are okay, but he probably doesn't work out at all.

02:56:27.000 I mean, if he's, you know...

02:56:28.000 He's pretty jacked.

02:56:29.000 I'll tell you what, the little Mexican guy's gonna be in your next Olympian. 0.96

02:56:32.000 I mean, he is jacked. 0.99

02:56:33.000 He probably doesn't get a chance to hang out with his real dad very much either, and that's probably gotta be a bit of a mindfuck. 0.99

02:56:38.000 He's in the weight room all the time. 0.77

02:56:40.000 Angry, doing deadlifts, you know?

02:56:42.000 Anger can go a long way.

02:56:44.000 Cattlebells.

02:56:49.000 I wonder if he makes those noises.

02:56:52.000 That's a good Arnold.

02:56:53.000 You go to Lyft.

02:56:55.000 Pumping is better than coming.

02:56:57.000 You ever hear that from Pumping Iron?

02:57:00.000 Pumping is better than coming.

02:57:01.000 I love that movie.

02:57:03.000 The Fighter and the Kid.

02:57:05.000 Where can people get it?

02:57:06.000 iTunes, SoundCloud.

02:57:08.000 Yep.

02:57:08.000 Fox Sports 1. Website?

02:57:11.000 We don't have a website.

02:57:11.000 We need a website because now that we're on Fox Sports 1. What year are you bitches living in?

02:57:15.000 I know. 0.95

02:57:16.000 We do have a website, but now that we're on Fox Sports 1, we do not have it.

02:57:21.000 Fox Sports 1. For sure, you get that right.

02:57:23.000 We do not have it.

02:57:24.000 iTunes, though.

02:57:25.000 You can find us on iTunes.

02:57:26.000 Find the Kid.

02:57:27.000 Follow Brian and I. At Brendan Schaub.

02:57:29.000 At Brian Callen.

02:57:30.000 We post all sorts of stuff.

02:57:32.000 And we do lots of videos on Instagram.

02:57:34.000 What's up with them censoring your podcast? 0.99

02:57:36.000 That's whack as fuck. 0.99

02:57:37.000 You know this is the internet. 1.00

02:57:38.000 I agree.

02:57:38.000 This is nonsense.

02:57:39.000 It's because it's Fox.

02:57:40.000 It's the big producers on Fox.

02:57:41.000 Look how much fun we had today.

02:57:42.000 Look how much fun you guys had being buck wild. 1.00

02:57:45.000 Fox needs to just put a fucking warning on it. 1.00

02:57:47.000 Take the reins off of us. 1.00

02:57:48.000 Take the reins off us.

02:57:50.000 Warning. 0.99

02:57:51.000 Brian and Brendan are fucking awesome. 0.92

02:57:53.000 They want it to be on the internet, but they want it censored. 0.86

02:57:55.000 That is so hilarious. 0.99

02:57:56.000 It's like, we want a rated X movie, but with no fucking. 0.99

02:57:58.000 Right. 1.00

02:57:59.000 It's dumb. 0.98

02:58:00.000 We're bringing up a lot of these issues to them. 0.99

02:58:02.000 They need to drop it.

02:58:03.000 We're having a serious talk with them.

02:58:04.000 Look, I have real sponsors that are like real companies.

02:58:07.000 You guys can have real sponsors too.

02:58:09.000 You can swear.

02:58:10.000 It's just words coming out of your mouth. 0.99

02:58:12.000 Just don't show any pornography or anything really ridiculous. 0.99

02:58:15.000 I agree. 0.91

02:58:16.000 Come on, Fox. 0.84

02:58:16.000 Brian, don't wear those tight-ass jeans. 0.84

02:58:18.000 Yeah, don't show.

02:58:19.000 They got you going a little bit, didn't they? 1.00

02:58:20.000 Don't show Mr. Sharp your cock. 1.00

02:58:22.000 Your cack! 1.00

02:58:22.000 My cack! 1.00

02:58:23.000 Get your dick out of my face. 1.00

02:58:24.000 I dated a girl from Boston one time and said, I like your cack. 1.00

02:58:26.000 No, you didn't.

02:58:27.000 That never happened.

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02:58:58.000 We'll be back tomorrow with David Seaman.

02:59:00.000 And I'll see you guys in Atlanta this weekend.

02:59:02.000 Show sold out.

02:59:03.000 Me and Joey Diaz.

02:59:04.000 And we'll also be there for the Fox Night at the Fights.

02:59:07.000 The UFC on Saturday night.

02:59:08.000 Travis Brown versus Fabricio Verdun.

02:59:10.000 Oh, I want to see that!

02:59:12.000 Donald Cowboy Cerrone versus Edson Barbosa.

02:59:15.000 Misha Tate and Liz Carmouche.

02:59:17.000 We'll see you Fox tomorrow.

02:59:18.000 Bye.

02:59:18.000 Big kiss.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 15, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #486 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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