The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #520 - David Seaman

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00:09:30.000 He counts every down, shows you the exercise, counts you down, and then you try to keep up.

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00:09:35.000 It's a fucking fantastic workout. 0.99

00:09:37.000 It's my all-time favorite. 0.99

00:09:39.000 It says, if you go there, it says powerful, like it says, with my name.

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00:09:44.000 It is powerful.

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00:10:01.000 That guy's probably got great genetics, in all seriousness.

00:10:04.000 He probably has great genetics on top of it, but he's obviously shredded.

00:10:07.000 I like how workout videos all have different backgrounds because I've been watching my girlfriend do a lot of them lately. 0.99

00:10:12.000 And like, you know, you have the abandoned gym.

00:10:14.000 You'll have the outdoor ones on the beach.

00:10:17.000 They should just have one in the middle of a McDonald's. 0.63

00:10:20.000 That would be good.

00:10:21.000 That's a good move, dude.

00:10:22.000 Or like a food court.

00:10:24.000 Like a food court. 1.00

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00:10:25.000 Yeah, food court. 1.00

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00:10:27.000 It's fizzler with old people everywhere, just watching Walmart. 1.00

00:10:32.000 I like the idea of a, like, you could never get it in a McDonald's.

00:10:36.000 They would never allow you to.

00:10:37.000 But a food court, you might be able to actually pull off.

00:10:39.000 If you blurt out all the different labels, you might be able to do that.

00:10:43.000 Yeah, make it like in some, you know, Texas or something like that.

00:10:47.000 Yeah.

00:10:47.000 Arizona, like Tucson or something.

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00:10:51.000 Everybody's angry. 1.00

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00:10:54.000 Jumping rope on stage in front of my cheeseburger, you fuck. 1.00

00:10:57.000 That's rude. 1.00

00:10:58.000 A truck stop would be good, too.

00:11:00.000 Especially if the guy's in really good shape. 0.99

00:11:02.000 That's fucking rude. 0.99

00:11:03.000 I'm trying to enjoy this Chinese chicken salad, you know? 1.00

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00:11:12.000 It's true, right?

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00:11:16.000 Otherwise, you'd be an asshole. 1.00

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00:11:20.000 Look at me, I'm skinny. 1.00

00:11:23.000 Enjoy your pizza.

00:11:26.000 I can see it taking off.

00:11:27.000 It's like that guy in Miami, the Russian guy who gets in people's faces. 1.00

00:11:31.000 You know, like, do you even lift, bro?

00:11:33.000 No, I don't know who that is.

00:11:33.000 That guy.

00:11:34.000 You don't know who that is?

00:11:35.000 He does this thing where he goes up to guys who are just obviously very jacked.

00:11:39.000 He's like, bro, do you even lift?

00:11:41.000 And just does that to like 20 of them.

00:11:44.000 Do you know what the name of them are? 0.99

00:11:47.000 Somebody, I guarantee you somebody will know who the fuck I'm talking about. 0.97

00:11:49.000 He's like Vitaly or something like that, but he's this big on YouTube. 0.98

00:11:54.000 And we'll start off the podcast with that guy.

00:11:56.000 He's great.

00:11:58.000 We'll start off the podcast with one of his because that sounds awesome.

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00:12:08.000 If you're thinking about trying kettlebells or any exercise routine, and this is not a legal disclaimer, this is just me as a friend to you.

00:12:15.000 Say, please don't be a meathead.

00:12:17.000 Please start slow.

00:12:19.000 Please learn the proper form.

00:12:21.000 If you can, if you can afford it, please hire a personal trainer and see if he'll let you videotape you doing it to make sure you get the idea that you're doing right.

00:12:31.000 You can do certain exercises by yourself in front of a mirror as long as you have proper form, but proper form is critical to avoid injuries, like back injuries, especially.

00:12:39.000 You could tweak yourself.

00:12:41.000 So please build your body up first, like slowly.

00:12:45.000 If you're not a person that works out on a regular basis, don't go crazy.

00:12:45.000 Do it the smart.

00:12:49.000 You want a slow build.

00:12:51.000 You don't want to break everything down. 1.00

00:12:52.000 Don't feel like you're being a pussy. 1.00

00:12:54.000 Like I only worked out 20 minutes today. 1.00

00:12:55.000 I bet 20 minutes is okay.

00:12:57.000 If you're not in good shape and you want to throw some kettlebells Around for 20 minutes, that is it.

00:13:01.000 I'll do a 20-minute workout all day.

00:13:03.000 I love 20-minute workouts.

00:13:05.000 People don't think that's enough.

00:13:06.000 You can get a good workout in 20 minutes.

00:13:08.000 My point being: if you're a person that doesn't exercise on a regular basis, just slowly get into it.

00:13:14.000 Don't kill yourself because that's what people do.

00:13:16.000 They get nutty and they say, I'm going to only drink water, no more soda. 0.99

00:13:19.000 I'm going to fucking run seven miles every morning. 0.98

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00:13:23.000 You've lost all your momentum.

00:13:25.000 You've tried too hard. 0.98

00:13:26.000 You went crazy. 0.84

00:13:27.000 Not only that, but you overcompensate.

00:13:28.000 I'm kind of going through this right now where I've been getting back into yoga now that I have a little bit more stability.

00:13:35.000 And it's weird because after a really intense yoga class, I want to go out and drink or do something unhealthy because I feel like I've done something that was a sacrifice.

00:13:44.000 You know, you're like, all right, now I can get back to my life. 0.96

00:13:46.000 But if you feel the sacrifice, then you know you're going to fuck yourself over later on by not going for the next three months or stopping whatever you're doing. 0.99

00:13:54.000 Hmm. 0.96

00:13:54.000 Yeah, it's also one of those things, too, that like you, I felt great satisfaction when I'm on a run of like working out where I don't have any breaks, but terrible satisfaction if I've slacked off for like two weeks. 0.96

00:14:07.000 If I go like two weeks without any exercise, I'm like, oh my God, what am I doing?

00:14:11.000 Like I'm too busy.

00:14:11.000 This is crazy.

00:14:12.000 I got to work out. 0.99

00:14:13.000 I'm going to go fucking bananas here. 0.97

00:14:14.000 There's a big difference between how I like I feel like very satisfied. 0.99

00:14:18.000 Like I feel like I'm on a good path when I get a run-in of like six weeks, you know, like six days a week I'm working out. 0.98

00:14:25.000 Fuck, I feel great. 1.00

00:14:26.000 I feel like I'm getting shit done. 1.00

00:14:28.000 But when I don't, I feel like a dummy. 0.94

00:14:30.000 Point being, ladies and gentlemen, please do this smart.

00:14:34.000 Please, if you can, take it slow.

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00:15:18.000 Taking probiotics when at all possible.

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00:15:29.000 All that stuff is so important.

00:15:31.000 It's so important to just start doing some research on what you put into your body.

00:15:36.000 Lots of green leafy vegetables. 0.99

00:15:37.000 God damn, that's important. 0.99

00:15:39.000 I eat a lot of kale and celery and green spinach and I cook it sometimes and I eat it raw sometimes. 1.00

00:15:48.000 That shit's so important. 0.97

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00:16:07.000 Oh, shit, shopsquad.tv. 0.94

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00:16:43.000 Yeah, and for Brian's Death Squad Podcast Network, that's all available on iTunes.

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00:16:49.000 And of course, he has Kill Tony, which is hilarious.

00:16:52.000 Great show.

00:16:53.000 I finally got to do that.

00:16:54.000 And the new Kill Tony is out right now.

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00:16:58.000 And holy shit, was Dom Irera funny. 0.97

00:17:00.000 It was like Domerrera at its best. 0.99

00:17:00.000 Oh, my. 0.99

00:17:02.000 It's like what you get to see.

00:17:03.000 Don Myrera, it is snarky, snarky, hilarious, best. 0.98

00:17:07.000 He's fucking awesome. 0.97

00:17:08.000 It was really, really fun. 0.97

00:17:09.000 And some funny comics, too.

00:17:10.000 And some ones that were terrible.

00:17:12.000 It's great.

00:17:13.000 It's perfect.

00:17:13.000 It was a perfect evening for Kill Tony.

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00:17:19.000 And the podcast is all Tony and Redband and a couple other comics will sit down and then open micers.

00:17:27.000 Maybe some of them that have never done comedy ever.

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00:17:32.000 It's really cool.

00:17:33.000 And I think it's the closest thing that Brian does right now that I could see being like a television show.

00:17:38.000 In fact, I think you're probably better off because it's so good.

00:17:42.000 I think you're probably better off not doing it as a television show, just producing it for an online series sort of thing, and slowly but surely putting some money into it.

00:17:51.000 Because I think it's like a show, dude.

00:17:53.000 When I sat down in it, you know what I felt like?

00:17:56.000 I was like, this could easily be a Comedy Central show.

00:17:58.000 Easily.

00:17:59.000 It's an easy premise to understand.

00:18:01.000 It's great fun.

00:18:03.000 You have comics giving advice to some comics and other ones that are just insufferable that you just have to invited me out to one.

00:18:10.000 It was really good.

00:18:11.000 Fun.

00:18:12.000 So fun.

00:18:13.000 I think Tony Hinchcliffe was there and also Princess Shank.

00:18:17.000 She was there that week.

00:18:18.000 Did Tony design this idea?

00:18:21.000 Yeah, we both came up with it.

00:18:23.000 He had an idea of it at the beginning and then we just kind of made it more of a show.

00:18:26.000 We added things like the bear, the West Hollywood bear, and like the time limits.

00:18:30.000 We had the time limits are big.

00:18:32.000 The reoccurring females that come every show.

00:18:35.000 So yeah, it started off.

00:18:36.000 Yeah, who are the two girls again? 1.00

00:18:37.000 Sarah Weinshank and Kimberly Condon.

00:18:40.000 These chicks do a new minute every week. 1.00

00:18:44.000 One new minute every week.

00:18:46.000 If you only knew how hard that is for someone who's just started to do comedy and has only been doing comedy while they've been on this show.

00:18:55.000 So they've only been doing it for like a year, right?

00:18:57.000 Yeah.

00:18:58.000 Yeah, we just had our one-year anniversary.

00:19:00.000 Okay, so they've only been doing it for that long.

00:19:02.000 And every week they do a new minute that the internet gets to listen to. 0.99

00:19:06.000 Fucking incredibly courageous. 0.97

00:19:09.000 Like as far as comedians go, that's incredibly courageous. 0.99

00:19:12.000 For a pro, like a long-term pro, to commit to a minute every week, that would be hard.

00:19:18.000 Like if someone said, hey, you want to do a new minute every week, I'd be like, ooh, did I put online?

00:19:23.000 Like sometimes a minute's not ready.

00:19:25.000 Like I'll try it. 0.99

00:19:26.000 I'm like, this fucking joke's not ready. 0.98

00:19:28.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

00:19:28.000 Well, guess what? 0.99

00:19:29.000 It's very unfortunate, but the only way for it to get ready is I have to tell it a bunch of times, and it's got to eat dick. 0.99

00:19:34.000 It's just got to. 0.99

00:19:35.000 Sorry if you were there when it ate dick. 0.98

00:19:37.000 One day it'll be awesome. 0.94

00:19:38.000 But they don't start out awesome.

00:19:40.000 They start out in this weird way and they sort of morph and grow. 0.99

00:19:43.000 Well, to be able to do that live on the internet in front of you know a live audience and do a new minute every week, those chicks have fucking some serious chutzpah. 1.00

00:19:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:19:54.000 It's great. 0.99

00:19:55.000 And what's really interesting is that the one girl who also is usually on dysentery with me, Sarah Weinshank, and then Kimberly quit college and she was about to graduate and quit college and started comedy on the show.

00:20:10.000 So you saw the first set she did all the way up to a year later.

00:20:14.000 That's awesome.

00:20:15.000 Yeah, and it's neat.

00:20:16.000 We've had so much weird drama too.

00:20:18.000 We had this guy that dressed up as like an Iron Man, you know, and then he had drama.

00:20:22.000 And now we have like a weekly guest.

00:20:24.000 I couldn't imagine he would have drama.

00:20:26.000 Now we have a weekly guy that dresses up as this guy called the Iron Patriot.

00:20:30.000 And we had Jesus on your episode.

00:20:33.000 Yeah, Jesus was on my episode.

00:20:34.000 It's beautiful.

00:20:35.000 He had an interesting Jesus-like quality to him.

00:20:38.000 He really did.

00:20:39.000 Anyway, go to DeathSquad.tv for all the information on upcoming shows, podcasts, podcasts to download.

00:20:47.000 And there's a link there also to Shop Squad.

00:20:50.000 So shopsquad.tv.

00:20:52.000 Shopsquad.tv.

00:20:52.000 Yep.

00:20:54.000 All right, you fucks. 1.00

00:20:54.000 Boom, shalock, lock, boom. 1.00

00:20:56.000 David Seaman's here, and he knows things that you don't.

00:21:03.000 And he'll tell you them.

00:21:06.000 The Joe Rogan experience.

00:21:09.000 Train my day, Joe Rogan.

00:21:10.000 Podcast by night, all day.

00:21:16.000 Would you consider this?

00:21:17.000 Would you consider this that being your opening song?

00:21:19.000 David Seaman knows about you don't know.

00:21:21.000 I was just thinking that's my new, it's got to be my new voicemail message.

00:21:24.000 I'm feeling like you could do something with this.

00:21:27.000 I feel it's got a good melody to it.

00:21:29.000 It's catchy.

00:21:29.000 It's very catchy.

00:21:30.000 David Seaman knows what you don't know.

00:21:33.000 And then maybe a chorus repeats it a couple times.

00:21:36.000 Doug Sandho has a great joke.

00:21:36.000 Yeah.

00:21:38.000 You ever seen that joke that he does about how lazy songwriting is?

00:21:40.000 He tells the same punchline over and over and over again.

00:21:43.000 He keeps doing it and everybody gets uncomfortable. 0.97

00:21:45.000 And he goes, that's, you see how fucking easy it is to write a song. 0.98

00:21:51.000 You see how lazy songwriters are. 0.97

00:21:52.000 It's really funny, too, because you don't know what he's doing until he's doing it.

00:21:55.000 Yeah. 0.89

00:21:56.000 He's fucking awesome. 0.94

00:21:57.000 That was off his last special. 0.98

00:21:59.000 Yeah.

00:22:00.000 Doug's hilarious.

00:22:01.000 He's my favorite.

00:22:02.000 You see somebody like Adam Levine or I'm only thinking of that because he was in a movie recently.

00:22:06.000 You only think about that because he's beautiful.

00:22:10.000 He locked down the voice and now he could say anything and people would be like, yeah.

00:22:13.000 You know, like, I'll buy that for 99 cents.

00:22:15.000 Somebody out there would, not necessarily me.

00:22:18.000 Isn't it interesting that he sells Acne stuff even though he's on the voice?

00:22:21.000 Like he's on this big show, but he's doing an infomercial.

00:22:24.000 It's a contrast because usually someone has to be like sort of sliding when they pick up like a proactive or something type of commercial, right?

00:22:32.000 But isn't it usually like someone who's not like people who are no longer in the prime?

00:22:38.000 Yeah, and there's like there's a Shannon Doherty commercial for like some online course or something like that, online university course or something.

00:22:46.000 I forget what it is, but it's her wearing a bunch of different outfits.

00:22:49.000 And it's like, you know that she probably needed money and this is something that came along.

00:22:53.000 But that guy's like hugely famous. 0.98

00:22:55.000 They probably gave him so much money that he's like, fuck, I don't, you know, an afternoon, $3 million, whatever. 0.97

00:23:00.000 Like if you look at Alec Baldwin, he has enough money, right? 1.00

00:23:03.000 And he does the Capital One shit constantly. 0.99

00:23:05.000 Yeah, that's pretty shilly. 0.99

00:23:07.000 That seems like kind of embarrassing for somebody that famous to do, but they must have just given him a shitload of money and it's a good card.

00:23:13.000 And he's like, well, I'll do it.

00:23:14.000 I wonder if that's worth it.

00:23:15.000 How many people do you think saw Alec Baldwin and go, you know what? 0.99

00:23:18.000 That motherfucker's my banker. 0.99

00:23:20.000 I got to go to his bank. 1.00

00:23:21.000 How many people did that?

00:23:23.000 I just talked about it, though.

00:23:23.000 I don't know.

00:23:24.000 So, I mean, it gets ahead.

00:23:27.000 You wouldn't do it, right?

00:23:28.000 Would I do what?

00:23:28.000 Would I sign up because of that?

00:23:30.000 If you had no bank and you said, I got to get a bank.

00:23:32.000 I wouldn't choose it because of that, no.

00:23:34.000 Of course not.

00:23:35.000 Right?

00:23:35.000 Who would?

00:23:36.000 But it might slide the balance.

00:23:38.000 If I was already thinking, should I go with Capital One or somebody else?

00:23:42.000 I might go, well, I liked Alec Baldwin 20 years ago in Red October.

00:23:47.000 I don't know.

00:23:48.000 He's been good in a bunch of movies, right? 0.99

00:23:49.000 Fucking Glenn Gary Gunn Ross. 0.98

00:23:51.000 He knocks it out of the park. 0.99

00:23:52.000 I hate when anybody tells me that was over the top.

00:23:54.000 Oh, so over the top.

00:23:56.000 That scene with the watch and the whole thing.

00:23:58.000 Coffee's for closers. 1.00

00:24:00.000 That was a fucking great scene. 1.00

00:24:02.000 Yeah, he's a dick. 1.00

00:24:04.000 That was his character. 1.00

00:24:05.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:24:05.000 People get weird with him because he's so goofy in real life. 1.00

00:24:08.000 You know, he does so much goofy shit in real life that people don't respect his acting. 1.00

00:24:12.000 That dude can act his dick off. 1.00

00:24:14.000 He really can. 1.00

00:24:15.000 Fuck yeah, he can. 1.00

00:24:16.000 That Glengarry Glenn Ross scene is fucking fantastic. 1.00

00:24:20.000 He's a vicious, fucking cold, hard capitalist. 1.00

00:24:25.000 And he's like, this is the army, you pussies. 1.00

00:24:27.000 You don't get the Glen Gary-Glenn Ross leads. 0.99

00:24:30.000 Only closers get those leads.

00:24:30.000 What did they say?

00:24:31.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:24:32.000 That's a great fucking scene. 0.99

00:24:34.000 That poor guy's always duking it out, though, with somebody. 0.99

00:24:37.000 It's like a flight attendant, and recently the cops arrested him for riding his bike the wrong way.

00:24:42.000 He's going like the wrong way on the street.

00:24:44.000 Like, you can't ride your bike there.

00:24:45.000 You're like, boom. 1.00

00:24:47.000 Shut up. 1.00

00:24:47.000 They cuff him. 1.00

00:24:48.000 New York cops, they're happier to cuff you if you're a fucking actor. 1.00

00:24:51.000 They're happy to cuff you. 1.00

00:24:53.000 Oh, we cuffed Alec Baldwin today.

00:24:54.000 He was awesome.

00:24:55.000 He smelled like liquor.

00:24:57.000 Riding his bike drunk, going down the wrong way.

00:25:02.000 That guy's always in some sort of a dispute with someone.

00:25:04.000 But the fun, interesting people are, you know?

00:25:07.000 I mean, Mel Gibson, you tell me Mel Gibson did become more interesting to you after you heard him scream at his girlfriend. 0.99

00:25:14.000 You should shut up and blow me. 1.00

00:25:16.000 One of his last movies is actually pretty good. 0.99

00:25:18.000 The one about him escaping from Mexico.

00:25:20.000 I saw that.

00:25:21.000 Yeah, I was like, huh, this is actually like, it's completely psychotic, but it was really entertaining, you know?

00:25:26.000 He's kind of embracing it, right? 0.92

00:25:27.000 He's embracing that he's crazy.

00:25:29.000 Like, he's in the Expendables movie.

00:25:31.000 You know, he's embracing the crazy aspects of all those recordings. 1.00

00:25:34.000 He's like the first casualty to that kind of shit. 0.99

00:25:37.000 Like the first real casualty to a big-time movie star being sort of exposed by, I mean, whatever you want to call her. 0.99

00:25:47.000 What would you call her, Brian?

00:25:48.000 I don't want the Temptress. 1.00

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:49.000 Something like those.

00:25:50.000 I don't want to be sued. 0.65

00:25:52.000 Don't say hooker. 0.99

00:25:53.000 Dude, what did I say?

00:25:54.000 No, I mean.

00:25:55.000 I mean, like, that's an old term for catch wrestling.

00:25:58.000 A lot of those Russians, they knew a lot of sambo.

00:26:01.000 Very similar to catch wrestling.

00:26:02.000 That's what they call it.

00:26:03.000 An escort.

00:26:04.000 Dude, you said that's a hooker. 1.00

00:26:06.000 How dare you? 0.99

00:26:07.000 I don't think she was that. 0.98

00:26:08.000 I think she was mercenary, though, in her approach, recording this crazy man screaming.

00:26:14.000 But maybe, you know what? 1.00

00:26:15.000 If you're that chick, how else do you ensure that motherfucker doesn't kill you? 1.00

00:26:18.000 How do you know he's not going to OJ you? 1.00

00:26:20.000 In all defense.

00:26:21.000 I mean, in her defense.

00:26:22.000 Everyone looked at it like that woman was evil, what she did was evil. 1.00

00:26:26.000 The whole thing's a disaster, okay? 1.00

00:26:29.000 Let's stop thinking there's a black and white on this motherfucker. 1.00

00:26:31.000 That whole, the whole situation was a total disaster. 1.00

00:26:35.000 You had a guy screaming, you fucking cunt. 1.00

00:26:39.000 He's screaming, I hope you get raped by a pack of niggers. 1.00

00:26:41.000 That's what he screamed. 1.00

00:26:43.000 He screamed at on a recording. 1.00

00:26:44.000 Okay, so he's clearly out of his fucking mind. 0.99

00:26:47.000 Isn't that amazing how many chances we give people? 0.99

00:26:49.000 We're like, yeah, I'll go see his movie after that.

00:26:52.000 Yeah, but my point being, like, she's probably out of her mind too.

00:26:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:56.000 You know, she recorded him doing all this shit. 0.99

00:26:58.000 Like, she put it out and she sold it. 0.99

00:27:00.000 I don't know how it got loose.

00:27:02.000 She got her 15 grand from TMZ or something.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, whatever it was.

00:27:05.000 But what's fascinating on both accounts is that, like, they're together.

00:27:10.000 They mean, what caused her to beat with them?

00:27:12.000 I mean, both of them are making terrible choices.

00:27:15.000 You know, she's recording him. 0.99

00:27:17.000 He's completely insane.

00:27:19.000 It's like you're getting caught up in this whirlwind of cuckooness. 1.00

00:27:22.000 But in her defense, how else would she react if she had a child with this guy and he's screaming and yelling crazy shit like that? 0.99

00:27:31.000 Like you don't, you know, everybody looks at it in terms of like she was mercenary. 0.99

00:27:34.000 And I agree.

00:27:35.000 She probably was definitely mercenary. 0.99

00:27:36.000 But a guy like that, that's how it works. 0.98

00:27:39.000 If you're fucking 60 years old and you're starting to get old looking and you have this unbelievably hot young Russian chick who's really into you, you should probably suspect something. 1.00

00:27:48.000 You should probably suspect that she's not in love with the way you look. 0.99

00:27:51.000 She's not as attracted to you as you are to her.

00:27:53.000 You should probably suspect that she knows that you're an incredibly rich guy who made like $300 million or something on the Passion of the Christ, right?

00:28:01.000 How much money did he make?

00:28:02.000 Something insane, right?

00:28:03.000 Funded it all himself. 0.92

00:28:05.000 Lethal weapon at least.

00:28:06.000 A billion dollars.

00:28:08.000 I mean, I don't think he made that much.

00:28:09.000 I don't think he owned that one, but he owned the thing about the Passion of the Christ, that he funded it himself.

00:28:13.000 And it was a huge international Fox News obsessed over that for like a month. 0.99

00:28:17.000 Fuck. 0.99

00:28:18.000 So a lot of people went out to see it, I'm sure. 1.00

00:28:19.000 Dude, that movie was huge.

00:28:22.000 The Passion of the Christ.

00:28:23.000 Let's find out how much money that made. 0.98

00:28:24.000 Let's guess before we look. 1.00

00:28:25.000 That shit's dead now, though. 1.00

00:28:26.000 Have you ever heard anyone saying they saw it on TV or anything? 1.00

00:28:30.000 Like, they don't play that at all.

00:28:31.000 You can't even buy that anymore, probably.

00:28:32.000 Oh, I'm sure you can.

00:28:33.000 But I think what happened?

00:28:34.000 Well, that Jim Caviesel guy didn't work again for a long time either.

00:28:37.000 The guy who played Jesus?

00:28:38.000 Yeah.

00:28:38.000 He didn't work again for a long time.

00:28:40.000 He's doing something now.

00:28:41.000 Is he in the desert now, like wandering around for 20 years?

00:28:44.000 I think he's on a show now, or maybe a new movie now.

00:28:47.000 I don't know, but he's doing some stuff now.

00:28:49.000 He's a very good actor, so it's kind of unfortunate.

00:28:51.000 But I heard that he went a little crazy.

00:28:55.000 Let's guess.

00:28:57.000 What do you guess before we look at how much money it made?

00:29:00.000 I don't know, but I bet Daniel Day-Lewis would have been a way better Jesus.

00:29:03.000 Because he would have really gotten into it.

00:29:06.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 I'm going to go with $150 million.

00:29:10.000 Brian, don't cheat.

00:29:10.000 That's my number.

00:29:12.000 You can't be cheating.

00:29:12.000 Don't cheat.

00:29:13.000 We're having a competition here, bro.

00:29:15.000 Hey, hey, hey. 1.00

00:29:16.000 Don't let that fucking bitch. 1.00

00:29:18.000 Okay. 1.00

00:29:19.000 Oh, my God.

00:29:20.000 Really?

00:29:20.000 It's bigger than I thought.

00:29:21.000 All right, so bigger than you think, I would say.

00:29:23.000 Wow. 1.00

00:29:24.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:29:26.000 $215 million. 1.00

00:29:29.000 Keep going, bitch. 1.00

00:29:30.000 Wow. 1.00

00:29:31.000 That's just domestic, son.

00:29:33.000 Ready for this?

00:29:34.000 Domestic, $370,274,604.

00:29:40.000 Foreign, another $241,116,490. 0.99

00:29:45.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:29:46.000 You guys are going to see Jesus coin in the next few weeks. 1.00

00:29:48.000 So more than half a billion.

00:29:50.000 That's insane.

00:29:51.000 This is driven by people supporting him because he's pursuing a religious topic.

00:29:55.000 And most of the time, Hollywood ignores that.

00:29:58.000 Dude, its opening weekend was $83 million.

00:30:02.000 How much did it cost to make, though?

00:30:05.000 I don't know, man.

00:30:06.000 Oh, my God.

00:30:07.000 Wow. 1.00

00:30:08.000 Look at this shit. 1.00

00:30:09.000 3,000 theaters. 1.00

00:30:13.000 $27,000 a show average.

00:30:13.000 Wow.

00:30:16.000 And you never think about it that way.

00:30:18.000 You know, you never think about it when you're looking at what the actual numbers are for a movie like that.

00:30:22.000 $83 million it made in the first week.

00:30:24.000 Pow! 0.99

00:30:25.000 Suck it! 1.00

00:30:26.000 I'm Mel Gibson! 1.00

00:30:27.000 Karate!

00:30:29.000 That was a crazy movie, too. 0.99

00:30:31.000 If you watched it, it was just the entire movie was like this sadist dream, like a guy just getting the fuck beaten out of him. 0.99

00:30:38.000 And it's so hard to discern a plot, and it's all implied. 0.86

00:30:41.000 Like you have to know that the guy's already Jesus for the movie to have any sort of an impact.

00:30:45.000 So it was essentially a movie that he made for the insiders.

00:30:48.000 Like he made it for the people that already knew the Jesus story.

00:30:51.000 Because if you didn't know who Jesus was and you saw that movie, it wasn't very informative on who Jesus is.

00:30:56.000 It was kind of weird. 0.97

00:30:58.000 It was like, why are they beating the fuck out of this guy? 0.92

00:31:00.000 Like, what's going on? 0.99

00:31:01.000 How come he's not worried?

00:31:02.000 He's not even freaking out.

00:31:03.000 He doesn't use it.

00:31:03.000 He's got magic.

00:31:04.000 How come he's not using the magic? 0.99

00:31:06.000 Why are you letting those guys beat the fuck out of you? 0.99

00:31:07.000 It's all for religious people. 1.00

00:31:09.000 It had a $30 million budget, also.

00:31:11.000 Kapow.

00:31:12.000 So $53 million the first one. 1.00

00:31:14.000 Look at this fucking, look at these numbers. 0.99

00:31:16.000 $370,782,930 domestic. 1.00

00:31:24.000 Suck it. 1.00

00:31:26.000 So Mel Gibson was just blow me! 1.00

00:31:29.000 Just screaming at this Russian chick. 1.00

00:31:31.000 You know, I mean, that was probably what was going on in his head. 1.00

00:31:34.000 Shut up and blow me. 1.00

00:31:37.000 He didn't even fund her recording sessions and stuff. 1.00

00:31:42.000 She was trying to be a singer. 1.00

00:31:43.000 That's right.

00:31:44.000 So sorrow, sordid, sad.

00:31:48.000 Did you see the video that I posted of the two women stealing some guy's furniture or whatever those things are on the beach when you have like a big tent and you know he caught him?

00:32:00.000 Yeah, Cabana.

00:32:01.000 These chicks are stealing it? 1.00

00:32:02.000 Yeah, he walked up on him going, excuse me, hey, how are you guys doing today?

00:32:06.000 And these older women in Florida took all his bags and stuff and they had them all in the middle and then they were taking down his thing and acting like it was theirs and caught him stealing it. 1.00

00:32:16.000 The second he's like, get the fuck away from it, you know, they start coming at him like I'm attacking him.

00:32:22.000 It's one of those videos like the drone video. 0.96

00:32:24.000 Yeah, the drone video times.

00:32:26.000 Here's another one.

00:32:27.000 Dude, I gotta see this.

00:32:29.000 It's got a backlog of awesome videos.

00:32:32.000 Okay.

00:32:36.000 So they're just doing it. 1.00

00:32:37.000 shit. 0.99

00:32:38.000 Yeah, but we don't know how to do it. 1.00

00:32:40.000 Oh.

00:32:41.000 You need some help?

00:32:42.000 You know how to do it?

00:32:44.000 Yeah.

00:32:44.000 This is our stuff.

00:32:46.000 This is yours?

00:32:47.000 Yes.

00:32:48.000 Wait a minute.

00:32:49.000 Well, this is ours.

00:32:50.000 No.

00:32:51.000 It is.

00:32:52.000 This is all ours.

00:32:54.000 All of it.

00:32:55.000 The chairs, the bag.

00:32:56.000 This is all our stuff.

00:32:58.000 My kids.

00:32:59.000 Yep, that's my kids.

00:33:00.000 I'm sorry.

00:33:01.000 Yeah.

00:33:02.000 That's what these olds do. 0.87

00:33:03.000 They steal from the young.

00:33:05.000 This is so weird.

00:33:06.000 We didn't blame.

00:33:10.000 We'll let it slide, but I'm glad I made it in time.

00:33:12.000 I'm not making it slide.

00:33:14.000 I'm telling you.

00:33:15.000 No. 1.00

00:33:17.000 No, no, step away from my shit. 1.00

00:33:19.000 How about that? 1.00

00:33:21.000 You know what?

00:33:22.000 I will, and then I'm going to take that camera and put it in the grass.

00:33:24.000 I'm going to like that.

00:33:27.000 Step back.

00:33:28.000 Stop it.

00:33:29.000 Stop it.

00:33:31.000 Seriously?

00:33:34.000 Was that real?

00:33:34.000 Whoa.

00:33:36.000 Yeah, it seems to be real.

00:33:37.000 I mean, it's being reported on the news and stuff like that.

00:33:40.000 It's got over 1.6 million hits, and it costs nothing to make. 1.00

00:33:46.000 I wonder if he shut the phone off and whipped their ass. 1.00

00:33:48.000 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:33:49.000 I've been trying to search news reports for it and see an official police report or anything.

00:33:56.000 I just don't think he filed the police, but I looked at his older videos, and it was just him and his kids singing cars and stuff.

00:34:02.000 So it doesn't seem like he actually a pranker guy.

00:34:06.000 But he actually did catch that.

00:34:07.000 Well, look, man, young criminals become older criminals.

00:34:11.000 You see some 60-year-old ladies. 0.93

00:34:12.000 Don't just assume that they're sweet and kind because they look like your mom. 0.74

00:34:16.000 I have some friends that have moms that are criminals. 1.00

00:34:19.000 Just straight criminals. 1.00

00:34:21.000 My friend, his mom and his dad, both of them, scamming, credit card scams, all kinds of crazy shit. 1.00

00:34:27.000 If they're following you, you got to go a circuitous route away from them. 0.99

00:34:32.000 You don't want them knowing where you live. 0.92

00:34:33.000 They're criminals. 0.98

00:34:34.000 But they look like grandpas. 0.99

00:34:36.000 That happens.

00:34:37.000 You can get those.

00:34:38.000 Does that blow your blood at all?

00:34:40.000 Because that gets my heart rate.

00:34:41.000 Well, it does get your heart rate.

00:34:42.000 You always get the heart rate of you being attacked while you're holding a camera.

00:34:46.000 Remember the...

00:34:46.000 I know.

00:34:49.000 We shouldn't really talk about that.

00:34:51.000 We almost had an incident with young Brian.

00:34:55.000 But yeah, I mean, hitting people, people hitting people like that, obviously they're stealing this guy's stuff.

00:35:02.000 And they're hitting him.

00:35:03.000 I wonder how long was it there for?

00:35:05.000 Like, was it left there for hours?

00:35:07.000 That's a good question.

00:35:08.000 And was it five minutes?

00:35:09.000 Was it a setup?

00:35:10.000 Who knows?

00:35:10.000 Yeah.

00:35:11.000 We don't fucking know. 0.96

00:35:12.000 That would be a crazy thing to do. 0.99

00:35:13.000 Set some shit out and then set a camera up from a distance. 1.00

00:35:16.000 And then when they start stealing, it come down and go, hey, fuck it. 1.00

00:35:18.000 You're stealing my stuff. 1.00

00:35:19.000 Yeah, I mean, if you were saying that the rest of his social media, it's like him and his family, you know, like singing in the cards.

00:35:24.000 Well, I hope he's right. 0.92

00:35:25.000 What if he was on Ambient and shit and it wasn't really his stuff? 1.00

00:35:28.000 And they fuck out of him. 1.00

00:35:29.000 We're taking his side. 1.00

00:35:30.000 Right.

00:35:30.000 You know, Jamie, are you going to find out if it's real?

00:35:33.000 Something I just saw today.

00:35:35.000 I don't know if it's real.

00:35:36.000 So I can't really comment.

00:35:38.000 But if it is real and they were stealing his stuff and then they were beating him up, at what point in time, like if you know those women are criminals, like Brian, let me ask you this.

00:35:46.000 You're not a violent guy at all.

00:35:47.000 You're a very friendly guy.

00:35:48.000 And if you were in a situation like that where your stuff was left out and you came up to it and these old ladies were stealing your stuff and then when you started talking about it, they say, put the camera down and they start hitting on you. 1.00

00:35:58.000 Would you fight back?

00:36:00.000 I would keep the video on as much as possible and then kick away.

00:36:05.000 Did you go to your back and do like a guard?

00:36:07.000 No, I would do strong arm.

00:36:10.000 I would do it.

00:36:11.000 Like the Heisman? 0.98

00:36:12.000 Yeah, just like get the fuck away from me while recording. 0.96

00:36:15.000 You know, I've been in situations like this before. 0.80

00:36:17.000 I mean, I always pull out my camera immediately and hit record.

00:36:20.000 had a weird police incident that happened recently that I pulled out my camera to start recording him while he was talking to me.

00:36:26.000 You know, it's just like, I am now to the point Yeah.

00:36:30.000 Where's the video?

00:36:31.000 Show it.

00:36:31.000 I'm not showing it.

00:36:32.000 No.

00:36:33.000 Yeah.

00:36:34.000 You want to court?

00:36:35.000 Huh?

00:36:35.000 You want to court?

00:36:36.000 No.

00:36:36.000 No, no, no.

00:36:37.000 No, I just don't.

00:36:40.000 I'll say that I'm at a house, not in Burbank.

00:36:44.000 Was there underage drinking involved?

00:36:46.000 No.

00:36:47.000 But we are at this person's house, and we were just talking by my car, and the cop pulls up and just comes out and goes, Sirk, Sirk, I need to see your ID.

00:36:59.000 And I'm just like, this is my house.

00:37:00.000 And he goes, all right, I don't care.

00:37:03.000 What are you doing here?

00:37:03.000 And he just started yelling at me and all this stuff.

00:37:07.000 And I was just like, come on, what the?

00:37:08.000 All right, hold on.

00:37:09.000 I pull out my recorder and I go, what's the problem, officer?

00:37:11.000 This is my house.

00:37:12.000 You're on my property.

00:37:14.000 What is going on?

00:37:14.000 He goes, I need to see your IDs.

00:37:15.000 And, you know, it was just like this whole thing.

00:37:17.000 So he was being unreasonable. 0.99

00:37:18.000 He was just being like, why the fuck are you, I mean, bothering me. 0.99

00:37:22.000 Was it possible, though, that they were looking for someone who looked like you who had done something fucked up that they were on foot looking for? 0.99

00:37:29.000 What he says is he's like, I just find it peculiar that you're sitting outside this house at two o'clock with that book bag. 0.80

00:37:35.000 And I'm like, yeah, it just got off work.

00:37:37.000 This is camera gear.

00:37:38.000 It was from Kill Tony.

00:37:40.000 And I was like, this is all my camera gear.

00:37:42.000 And he goes, yeah, but you, and I'm like, so I'm not allowed to be at my house on my property with a book bag without getting yelled at. 0.88

00:37:48.000 You don't know what it's like to be black. 0.99

00:37:50.000 From now on, you're allowed to say you know what it's like to be black. 0.94

00:37:53.000 You had a taste of it.

00:37:54.000 Yeah.

00:37:55.000 It's just, you know, I understand what he was doing, but I also understand work.

00:37:58.000 Like, what if me and this girl were having a serious conversation?

00:38:00.000 He just cock blocked and ruined everything that I've ever built up to that?

00:38:05.000 Yeah, I've built up to like there was like a magic part that was coming on. 1.00

00:38:08.000 You know, she's about to go, okay, I'll come in and fuck you. 1.00

00:38:12.000 And now it's ruined because now it's just like, what the fuck happened? 1.00

00:38:14.000 Oh, I need to go home. 0.98

00:38:15.000 It's late, you know?

00:38:16.000 Indeed. 0.99

00:38:17.000 That's interfering with my fucking rights. 0.99

00:38:20.000 Well, you know, it's definitely fine if he asks you questions. 0.99

00:38:23.000 I mean, it's definitely fine if he sees you standing on the lawn of this house and he wonders whether or not you're going in.

00:38:30.000 But then he's got to let it go.

00:38:31.000 He doesn't have any rights beyond that.

00:38:32.000 Well, the problem is once someone starts to think that you're guilty of something, they want to believe that they were right.

00:38:38.000 Especially if there's any sort of a hostility between you and them.

00:38:40.000 Sometimes people perceive that.

00:38:42.000 Cops perceive that.

00:38:43.000 Like any disrespect between them is like some resistance of what they do or their authority.

00:38:47.000 So they want to impose it on you now and get you to do something. 0.98

00:38:51.000 And you're like, I'm not fucking doing that. 0.93

00:38:52.000 And then all of a sudden you're involved in this altercation over nothing. 0.98

00:38:55.000 And you were innocent.

00:38:56.000 You're an innocent person.

00:38:57.000 But the ego of the cop gets in the way.

00:38:59.000 That definitely can happen with the wrong personalities, even with good cops.

00:39:03.000 There's also been a lot of incidences lately where I feel like, especially when I'm in my car, I'm like, man, I need to remember to just put my GoPro on in my car and just record everything I'm doing while I'm driving.

00:39:14.000 Because, I mean, there's been so much crazy shit that's been happening.

00:39:17.000 Like, I saw a guy jump into traffic the other day and get hit, and I'm like, why did he do that? 0.99

00:39:22.000 Like, I watched him jump into it, like, and he was just a drug addict.

00:39:25.000 And I don't know what he was doing.

00:39:28.000 I think he was alive and everything.

00:39:29.000 I just kept on driving. 0.99

00:39:30.000 I saw a woman shitting. 1.00

00:39:31.000 Like, I think I said, shitting in the middle of the street the other. 0.99

00:39:34.000 Like, I'm like, what? 0.96

00:39:35.000 But I also think, like, especially with these videos that have been coming up, just women attacking.

00:39:39.000 And, like, Anthony saying that woman said that he was going to, that woman was going to, like, if he called the police, was going to say that he was rape.

00:39:45.000 She was rape or, you know, attacking her or whatever.

00:39:47.000 That's what he said that she said, that when she was hitting him, she was saying that she was going to say that he sexually assaulted her. 0.98

00:39:53.000 Right.

00:39:54.000 And by the way, it's the Opie and Anthony thing that's going on.

00:39:56.000 Yeah, the Opie and Anthony thing, if you don't know, our friends, Opie and Anthony, Anthony Kumia, was in New York City, and he was taking photographs, and he got a photograph of a woman.

00:40:07.000 And this woman got very upset that he took a photograph of her.

00:40:10.000 So some sort of an altercation took place.

00:40:13.000 Some words were exchanged, and she started hitting him.

00:40:16.000 So she was hitting him.

00:40:17.000 And if you don't know Anthony, you don't know that he's a gun nut, like a legit gun nut who actually has a license to conceal carry in New York City, which is incredibly difficult to obtain.

00:40:28.000 But here's one strike for people who want people to have guns.

00:40:35.000 Anthony never pulled out that gun.

00:40:37.000 Never, I mean, he obviously felt threatened.

00:40:41.000 He was getting hit by this one woman who Anthony's a nice guy, but he is, you know, 51 years old, loves his drinking, and I don't think he lifts weights that much.

00:40:52.000 It's not like he's this like big, scary, you know, Quentin Jackson, Rampage Jackson looking dude.

00:40:59.000 You know, he's a thin guy.

00:41:00.000 He's not a physically imposing guy, and this chick is beating on him, and he's got a gun on him. 1.00

00:41:08.000 I wasn't there, so obviously I don't know what the tone of the situation was.

00:41:12.000 I don't know how it got started. 1.00

00:41:14.000 I've read very little about it other than he went on this rampage, calling her an animal and a cunt and all this different shit. 0.99

00:41:23.000 But what's hilarious is everything that he said in this Twitter rampage that they're firing him for, he said on the radio show and they hired him for. 0.99

00:41:36.000 The radio show, if you paid attention to what he said over the years and why he's entertaining and how he says it, he gets crazy about racial situations.

00:41:47.000 He gets crazy about certain aspects of the African American community and he's done it forever.

00:41:52.000 And so these things that he said after getting punched that they were surprising to Sirius who had heard him say these things and they gave him checks.

00:42:02.000 It's kind of hilarious.

00:42:04.000 And also like one of the things that people are pointing out all over all over the Twitter sphere is they're showing all these lyrics to rap songs that Sirius has aired since Anthony got fired for tweeting. 0.51

00:42:18.000 And the lyrics are ridiculous.

00:42:20.000 I mean, oh yeah, dude, it's hardcore rap. 0.99

00:42:23.000 They air hardcore rap lyrics. 1.00

00:42:26.000 So they've got, you know, nigga this and shoot suck my dick and this bitch isn't that bitch is. 1.00

00:42:32.000 You know, the craziest, most radical, you know, hip-hop shit. 1.00

00:42:36.000 And yet, Anthony gets in trouble for this thing that he did where he went on this Twitter rampage and said a bunch of shit that he's... 1.00

00:42:58.000 That Sirius makes money off of racism. 0.99

00:43:00.000 That Sirius makes money off of.

00:43:02.000 Well, you know what, man, here's the thing.

00:43:04.000 I think what happens is that these companies get really terrified of the Twitter storm that they get. 0.97

00:43:10.000 Like you saw that with, well, you see it all the time with sponsors for Rush Limbaugh, but you see it with, or I believe conservative radio in general, you see it with like Donald Trump had a, I forget what it was, a tie collection or some shit at Macy's.

00:43:23.000 Then there were all these people on Twitter like tweeting the Macy's account, like don't support him because I don't even remember what the issue was, but once it gets going, the company feels overwhelmed and they're like, we have to respond because a thousand people just retweeted this thing.

00:43:37.000 And I think they just feel like the best route is the 48 Laws of Power thing where you just put a head on the chopping block and think later.

00:43:44.000 Oh, I see their point of view.

00:43:46.000 I do.

00:43:47.000 But I don't think they were fans of the Opie and Anthony show.

00:43:50.000 That's what I think is part of what's going on.

00:43:52.000 I don't think they listened.

00:43:53.000 I think there weren't a lot of people complaining.

00:43:55.000 It's just like the money coming in.

00:43:56.000 It's a good show.

00:43:57.000 It's a great show.

00:43:58.000 It's the reason why we're doing this show.

00:44:00.000 The reason why we're doing this show is because of Opie and Anthony in a lot of ways.

00:44:04.000 There's a direct chain of influences.

00:44:06.000 One of them being Tom Green.

00:44:08.000 Tom Green had his own show in his house way back in the day. 0.99

00:44:11.000 And I remember going over there and be like, this is the craziest shit ever. 0.99

00:44:15.000 He's got a server room. 1.00

00:44:16.000 He's got a goddamn server room with cables all through his living room. 0.99

00:44:19.000 And he turned his living room into a television show. 1.00

00:44:22.000 He just did it a little too early.

00:44:24.000 He had a great innovative idea.

00:44:25.000 He did it a little too early.

00:44:26.000 That influenced us.

00:44:28.000 Anthony Cumia influenced me greatly when he did live at the compound.

00:44:32.000 He does this thing live at the compound where he set up a studio in his house in Long Island. 0.97

00:44:37.000 And in his basement, he has a green screen and he'll fucking sing while he's holding guns. 0.99

00:44:42.000 Dude, he's singing songs. 0.99

00:44:44.000 He's singing karaoke while he's holding assault rifles.

00:44:47.000 All right. 1.00

00:44:48.000 And that, I don't know if they ever paid attention to that, but that shit is hilarious. 0.98

00:44:53.000 And I saw him doing that while he was still on Opi and Anthony. 0.99

00:44:56.000 He was doing it just for fun.

00:44:57.000 And I was like, oh my God, this is genius.

00:44:59.000 He set up a green screen.

00:45:00.000 He set up a real, like, professional stage with a green screen.

00:45:04.000 And behind the green screen, he would have like video of Manhattan or he would have like, like, I was going to totally steal that idea.

00:45:10.000 I might still put a green screen behind me for if we do get that tri-quarter tri-caster thing.

00:45:17.000 That would do it in respect to Anthony.

00:45:20.000 I have a green screen in my apartment. 1.00

00:45:23.000 What kind of weird shit are you up to? 0.99

00:45:26.000 It's kind of low end because it's just the green cloth. 1.00

00:45:28.000 It's the right color.

00:45:29.000 Right. 0.77

00:45:30.000 But then you use iMovie, you switch out the background, and suddenly instead of being in your apartment, you have this subtle background, or maybe it's the city or whatever the fuck it is.

00:45:38.000 You find something on Flickr, and then people take it a little bit more seriously. 0.97

00:45:41.000 Because you're not just some crazy rambling in your kitchen.

00:45:44.000 You're like, oh, I see somebody spent a little bit of time on this, and people will watch. 0.67

00:45:48.000 I like that.

00:45:49.000 Yeah, it's pretty cool.

00:45:49.000 Everybody out there should do it.

00:45:50.000 Go on Amazon and get like a green screen kit.

00:45:53.000 They're not expensive. 1.00

00:45:54.000 Not everybody, if you're like just a fucking idiot, don't do it. 1.00

00:45:57.000 But if you have something to say, this is the way to not seem like a crazy person on YouTube. 1.00

00:46:02.000 A crazy person on YouTube just told you how to not say things and do things that make you look completely crazy.

00:46:09.000 Everybody on YouTube is, that's like one of the easiest ways to dismiss people.

00:46:12.000 Oh, he's just got a YouTube show. 1.00

00:46:13.000 Fucking guy on YouTube saying what's crazy shit on YouTube. 1.00

00:46:17.000 Isn't that like, it's sort of a term of dismissal, isn't it? 1.00

00:46:17.000 Right? 1.00

00:46:20.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it's all changing.

00:46:22.000 I think now people are kind of, I'm not even a big YouTuber.

00:46:25.000 I just do it from time to time, but I think people are definitely intimidated by things like The Young Turks, where it's clear that it's more powerful than half the cable shows out there.

00:46:34.000 Oh, yeah.

00:46:35.000 And so the only thing they can do, and this is something that he's talked about, is dismiss it.

00:46:38.000 Be like, oh, it's not the real thing, but this is realer than probably anything on the radio right now.

00:46:43.000 Well, also, what he's doing is realer than, I mean, his numbers, he can verify.

00:46:49.000 The numbers that they're using, like Nielsen's, come on. 0.92

00:46:53.000 YouTube does not fuck around with their numbers.

00:46:55.000 They're very serious about it.

00:46:56.000 Well, that's absolutely true, but it's also that it's a number that you could watch and see.

00:47:00.000 I mean, like, you can't, you can tell me whatever you want about the Nielsen's, but the reality is you only have a certain amount of households.

00:47:07.000 Like, I don't know how many, it's.

00:47:10.000 There's some number differences.

00:47:11.000 And they can tell you all day long.

00:47:14.000 Well, we've statistically analyzed how well it works.

00:47:17.000 I don't believe you.

00:47:18.000 You know why I don't believe you?

00:47:20.000 Because the internet says so.

00:47:21.000 Well, it's in their best interest to inflate their numbers so they get more advertising dollars.

00:47:25.000 Well, maybe.

00:47:26.000 That's probably what's happening.

00:47:27.000 But I don't even think it's inflating.

00:47:29.000 I think by their algorithm, this is what the numbers that they've calculated.

00:47:32.000 It's probably pretty close.

00:47:34.000 They're probably pretty close.

00:47:35.000 But why would you want pretty close when you can get absolutely exact?

00:47:38.000 And that's what the internet offers. 0.96

00:47:39.000 So when they talk shit on like CHANK and like the Young Turks, just look at the numbers. 0.96

00:47:43.000 Look at how many downloads. 0.98

00:47:44.000 You know what that is?

00:47:45.000 That's real.

00:47:46.000 That's a real number.

00:47:47.000 It's not like 15,000 households across the Midwest.

00:47:52.000 I don't understand the Nielsens at all.

00:47:54.000 I never understood it.

00:47:56.000 It's voodoo. 0.98

00:47:57.000 Unless they can accurately... 0.96

00:48:03.000 Every time you watch it at home or you watch it, maybe it's an app that we all wear on their fucking Google glasses or something like that that measures what you're watching so we can all figure it out.

00:48:13.000 But until they do that, you don't really know.

00:48:15.000 They should already have that, though, based on what cable companies know what channel you're watching.

00:48:20.000 They say they do, but they don't share that information. 0.94

00:48:22.000 They say they know how many people are watching what on satellite, but they can't use it as a ratings thing because it's probably like some NSA type shit. 0.94

00:48:29.000 You're not even supposed to be doing that. 0.96

00:48:30.000 You're not supposed to be monitoring people's viewing habits and find out that they've been ordering dirty debutantes over and over again and clearing their history.

00:48:40.000 Can you find that history? 0.99

00:48:41.000 I don't think that does shit. 0.99

00:48:41.000 I do. 0.99

00:48:42.000 I think there's probably a second copy somewhere that goes off into the cloud. 0.99

00:48:45.000 Especially if you're ordering some freak shit. 1.00

00:48:48.000 If you're ordering some freak shit. 0.99

00:48:49.000 Did you hear about the, there was a thing about Tor where apparently one of the NSA programs actually flags you for further review if you're using Tor. 0.99

00:48:58.000 What's Tor?

00:48:58.000 Tor?

00:48:59.000 That's the anonymous anonymized web browser that people use to surf without giving away their identity.

00:49:06.000 Yeah.

00:49:06.000 Really?

00:49:07.000 So if you use it, you get flagged.

00:49:09.000 Exactly.

00:49:09.000 Just for using it, they consider you to be like some kind of elevated...

00:49:21.000 Like they said, extremists.

00:49:23.000 Extremists. 1.00

00:49:24.000 What the fuck are you talking about, dude? 1.00

00:49:26.000 Who are the biggest freaks in the world? 1.00

00:49:27.000 Journalists and college kids.

00:49:29.000 Well, people and also controls on internet course sites that he's actually using.

00:49:34.000 That would be like the number one. 0.99

00:49:35.000 People fucking people. 0.99

00:49:36.000 I've only used it once, and the problem is it's way slow. 0.99

00:49:39.000 It needs to really, it's frustrating to use.

00:49:42.000 You didn't worry when you signed up to use it that you would be flagged?

00:49:45.000 I assume I'm already on a.

00:49:46.000 I think you are.

00:49:47.000 I think I'm on a good one.

00:49:48.000 I talked to a dude the other day about you.

00:49:50.000 No.

00:49:50.000 Oh, yeah?

00:49:51.000 Can you imagine, though?

00:49:52.000 For a second there, you started to sweat it.

00:49:53.000 No, I was excited.

00:49:54.000 I was like, ooh, let's hear about this. 0.85

00:49:57.000 No, the Tor issue, it just goes to show you how fucked up things are that they consider that extreme.

00:50:03.000 Yeah, it's kind of weird that preserving your anonymity would automatically put you in this weird bracket.

00:50:08.000 But I guess if you thought about who are the extreme people that would use this that would be dangerous, and how many of the people— I would like to see activists networking out companies dumping pollution. 0.97

00:50:23.000 I don't really give a shit about that. 0.97

00:50:25.000 I want to see that happen. 0.98

00:50:26.000 But they consider that to be a threat to national security because it threatens the balance of power.

00:50:32.000 Yeah, no, you're totally right.

00:50:34.000 It's easy to make both arguments.

00:50:36.000 That's the problem.

00:50:37.000 It's one of those situations where, yeah, if you did that and you looked at everybody's background when you found them using this and anonymizing.

00:50:45.000 What did you say?

00:50:45.000 Animizing?

00:50:46.000 Anonymous.

00:50:47.000 Anonymizing.

00:50:48.000 Anonymizing web browser.

00:50:48.000 Anonymizing.

00:50:50.000 You'd go, well, you know, it's probably a good pool to look through. 0.79

00:50:54.000 The thing is, like, could I accurately rely on them to look at a guy like David Seaman and go, oh, no, this is actually just a smart young guy who's looking at the world and doesn't like all the bullshit he sees, and he thinks that we can do better. 0.85

00:51:07.000 Really that simple.

00:51:08.000 That's how I take you.

00:51:08.000 That's your agenda.

00:51:09.000 Am I accurate in my assessment of you?

00:51:11.000 I'm pretty accurate.

00:51:12.000 I get frustrated by seeing. 1.00

00:51:13.000 You're an evil person. 1.00

00:51:14.000 I get frustrated by seeing stupidity and callousness. 1.00

00:51:18.000 And I think we're seeing like a nice combination of that. 0.99

00:51:21.000 And we're also on the other side seeing progress.

00:51:23.000 And I'm attracted to progress.

00:51:24.000 So I'm just trying to like push the ball and, you know, talk about things that I think are actually helping while also reminding people that a lot of this stuff has not been fixed.

00:51:32.000 I think you're also doing a great service in that you're doing it in this uncensored form through the Internet very courageously.

00:51:39.000 And you're a part of what's now like this whole there's a and it's all connected in a lot of ways to the new corporations to like Google and these new technological corporations.

00:51:51.000 They all seem to have an ethic about them that didn't exist in some of the other corporations that we think of, whether it's fossil fuel corporations or car manufacturers or anything along those lines.

00:52:01.000 We don't think of them as being like professionals. 0.95

00:52:03.000 particularly ethical particularly tolerant but you think about that when it comes to like tech companies like Google is trying and variety these companies like Google especially was uh they're very upset about all this net neutrality shit.

00:52:16.000 They're very upset about all this possibility that the internet is going to be regulated by the government. 0.98

00:52:22.000 They're going to be able to monitor and track streams and how fast those shit you get. 0.98

00:52:28.000 I was just thinking about this earlier today because I was trying to figure out what is the problem? 0.98

00:52:31.000 Like, how do we get to a place where a company can be...

00:52:36.000 A company can take advantage of that capitalistic impulse towards constant progress, constant new products, refining, make it more addictive, make it easier to use.

00:52:47.000 So Twitter, because they're profit focused, that's what they're doing.

00:52:51.000 And because they're in the right kind of business where they make their money from giving small people a voice.

00:52:56.000 That's obviously an oversimplification, but that's what Twitter does.

00:52:59.000 And so that capitalistic thing, that machine works really well in making Twitter better and better, at least for the next couple of years until something better comes along and replaces it.

00:53:09.000 But then you get companies like the big ISPs or the big cable companies where them getting more and more capitalistically efficient and more ruthless isn't actually helping the rest of us.

00:53:23.000 It's dragging us down because they're in charge of this thing we all need, the internet.

00:53:27.000 And if they're only thinking about, oh, we can fuck them over a little bit right here, and then we can implement this and we can have the fast lane for our preferred partners, they're applying that profit motive to something that is completely against the public interest and doing it in a very efficient, influential way. 0.98

00:53:43.000 Like they have lobbyists working on this shit, but it's against the public interest to be like lobbying for polluted water and being like, well, we make more selling polluted water. 0.99

00:53:52.000 You can't do that. 1.00

00:53:52.000 Too bad. 1.00

00:53:53.000 You can't sell people internet access and pick and choose which sites people are going to be able to get the fastest.

00:53:59.000 That'd be like selling me a newspaper and it's like, oh, half the photos haven't been printed.

00:54:03.000 If you want those photos to be printed, go to our office and we'll print them out for you.

00:54:07.000 You would not pay for the newspaper. 1.00

00:54:08.000 You'd be like, fuck this. 1.00

00:54:09.000 I'm never buying your newspaper again. 1.00

00:54:12.000 It's also one of those things where when you're looking at it, you go, why should this be legal?

00:54:16.000 Why should this be okay?

00:54:18.000 Well, it's censorship of what people are putting out there into the world.

00:54:23.000 The whole point of the internet is that it's not preferential.

00:54:26.000 Right.

00:54:27.000 It's control.

00:54:28.000 It's an added element of control, and the added element going to large corporations and not to individuals.

00:54:33.000 It's going the wrong way.

00:54:34.000 It's going the opposite way that the internet goes.

00:54:36.000 The internet goes to the individual having more ability to communicate, the individual having more resources.

00:54:42.000 And what you said about Google seeming to be more ethical in some ways, and a lot of these tech companies have the same kind of ethos.

00:54:48.000 I think it's not because they're necessarily better people.

00:54:51.000 It's because what they're doing, their industry is non-parasitic.

00:54:54.000 So whereas the cable company, the only way they can increase their profits is we got this pipeline into your house.

00:55:00.000 Let's make more money off of what we own.

00:55:03.000 Over time, that becomes parasitic.

00:55:04.000 Whereas Google essentially built a whole empire off of user-generated content.

00:55:10.000 Anybody who built a website improves Google search. 0.90

00:55:13.000 Anybody who puts shit on YouTube improves the content offering of YouTube. 0.67

00:55:18.000 So they make money off of everybody having a voice and they want to protect that voice. 0.99

00:55:22.000 Cable companies don't give a shit. 0.97

00:55:24.000 They make money off of pumping their networks into your home and they want to maximize their profit. 0.99

00:55:29.000 And unfortunately, they're really powerful and they have a bigger voice than almost anybody else.

00:55:33.000 Yeah, I think that's an interesting way of looking at it.

00:55:36.000 I think there's probably some of that in there too.

00:55:39.000 But I think that also, I like to look on the bright side of things.

00:55:42.000 I think that what I'm seeing from these new tech companies is just more tolerance.

00:55:47.000 And I think that that tolerance is probably due to the influence of the internet.

00:55:50.000 And that's probably how they, I mean, look, Google is the internet.

00:55:53.000 I mean, that's what it's about.

00:55:55.000 Their whole company is essentially about the internet and now phones.

00:55:58.000 But the phones are also connected to the internet.

00:56:00.000 I mean, it's a big part of what they do.

00:56:02.000 And the ethic of the internet, it seems to be, like the social ethic seems to be evolving way quicker and way stronger than at any time that I can ever remember in cultural history.

00:56:15.000 I never remember these like big movements, shifts in how people talked and behaved and the words that were accepted and the words that weren't accepted and, you know, and just these giant trends that take place and just wash through culture.

00:56:31.000 They didn't move this quick before.

00:56:32.000 It's because we practice like thought mass correction, which I'm not entirely convinced is a good thing yet.

00:56:38.000 I still haven't really decided if it's good or bad. 0.97

00:56:40.000 But if you look at that woman who took the flight from London to South Africa and tweeted out that insensitive shit about like, you know, like I hope I don't get AIDS when I land in Africa or something. 0.99

00:56:50.000 She finished it though. 0.99

00:56:51.000 She said, just kidding, I'm white.

00:56:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:54.000 So it was even worse.

00:56:56.000 She was even better, you mean?

00:56:57.000 That's what made it funny.

00:56:59.000 Before her flight landed in South Africa, I think she already lost her job and the global uproar.

00:57:04.000 So that person learned that this is not socially acceptable.

00:57:07.000 And why did they learn that?

00:57:08.000 Because the internet gave them that lesson. 0.98

00:57:10.000 Well, she should have been a comedian because that would have been fucking hilarious. 1.00

00:57:13.000 You know, if a really funny comedian said that, like Eliza Schlesner said that when she went to Africa, holy shit, that would be funny. 0.99

00:57:19.000 Is it the wrong thing to say? 0.98

00:57:21.000 Yes.

00:57:21.000 It most certainly is.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, but if you worked in corporate PR for some, I think it was, I don't even want to say the company, but just a big media company.

00:57:28.000 Do you think she was on pills or something? 0.96

00:57:29.000 Like, why would she fucking say that? 0.97

00:57:32.000 I mean, how could a person in corporate America think it's okay to put something on your Twitter? 0.99

00:57:38.000 I have no idea.

00:57:39.000 Just kidding, I'm not, I'm white. 0.68

00:57:41.000 LOL. 0.98

00:57:43.000 Hope I don't get AIDS. 0.99

00:57:44.000 Just kidding, I'm white. 0.99

00:57:46.000 Wow. 0.99

00:57:47.000 Yeah, that's a crazy person. 0.50

00:57:50.000 It's funny, though.

00:57:51.000 Still funny.

00:57:52.000 It's a horrible thing to say.

00:57:53.000 Yeah, but the point is, like, crazy people are being called out. 0.85

00:57:55.000 They're still crazy, but now we can call them out.

00:57:57.000 So you're going to ruin a lot of good jokes.

00:57:59.000 Yeah.

00:57:59.000 You are.

00:58:00.000 And a lot of jobs, people are losing their jobs, like Anthony, just for going off on Twitter.

00:58:04.000 Well, you know, the Anthony thing is particularly weird because that's sort of like he had been known for that.

00:58:11.000 Like, you guys had a show where it was like, they were openly joking about racism all the time.

00:58:17.000 Like, the other day, he had Amy Schumer on one of the best of shows.

00:58:20.000 It was from years ago. 0.91

00:58:21.000 And they were talking about interracial porn. 0.99

00:58:23.000 And Amy Schumer was fucking hilarious. 1.00

00:58:25.000 But she was saying that she, she was so funny, man. 0.97

00:58:29.000 It was really funny.

00:58:29.000 She's So sharp.

00:58:32.000 She was saying that she's never fucked a black guy, but she likes watching black on white porn. 1.00

00:58:38.000 And Anthony was talking about how sad it was and that his racism won't let him watch it. 1.00

00:58:47.000 Like his racism won't let him watch a black guy fucking a white girl. 1.00

00:58:51.000 But there is a certain if you can't handle a black man fucking a white person. 1.00

00:58:58.000 There is a certain joking that he's joking. 1.00

00:59:00.000 He's joking.

00:59:01.000 He is a comedian.

00:59:02.000 I think a lot of people forget it's a comedy show that he's one of the funniest people I know that just doesn't go on stage.

00:59:07.000 And it's a comic.

00:59:09.000 He's most certainly a comedian.

00:59:10.000 Whether he goes on stage in front of a live audience or whether he goes.

00:59:14.000 Do you think his rampage was meant to be funny, though?

00:59:16.000 No, that's the problem.

00:59:17.000 That's part of the problem.

00:59:19.000 That's not done for entertainment or funny.

00:59:20.000 Well, then your profession doesn't really matter.

00:59:23.000 See, my issue with all these things is that like many things in life, they're not black and white.

00:59:30.000 You know, this is not black and white.

00:59:31.000 I think Anthony's awesome.

00:59:32.000 I love that dude.

00:59:33.000 He's one of my favorite people on radio ever.

00:59:36.000 He's great. 0.99

00:59:37.000 He's just funny as shit. 1.00

00:59:39.000 He's smart as fuck. 1.00

00:59:40.000 He knows a lot of things about different things. 0.99

00:59:43.000 He's very interesting the way he looks at the world. 1.00

00:59:45.000 He says a lot of crazy shit about black people. 1.00

00:59:48.000 He does. 1.00

00:59:48.000 He has for a long time. 1.00

00:59:49.000 I don't know his personal experiences.

00:59:52.000 I don't know what he's around, where he's formulated these ideas about certain black people, but I also know that he has a lot of black friends.

00:59:59.000 Patrice and him were close.

01:00:01.000 You know, he has black comics that come on the show all the time that are friendly with him.

01:00:05.000 He's not a mean person.

01:00:06.000 He's not a bad guy.

01:00:07.000 If you're a nice person, he'll be nice to you too. 0.98

01:00:10.000 That said, I don't know what the fuck went down that night. 0.98

01:00:13.000 Who knows? 0.99

01:00:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:00:14.000 I mean, he did get attacked, which is crazy.

01:00:16.000 But he also, leading up to it, he also used to always talk about statistics about his city in New York and stuff like that, about how, you know, the race issues with that.

01:00:27.000 And so I think that what he, because he didn't, when he went off, he didn't really say all blacks are this.

01:00:34.000 You know, he was kind of just talking about the person that attacked him and was a savage, you know, is what he said. 1.00

01:00:42.000 Yeah, he called her a cunt, an animal and all this different shit. 1.00

01:00:45.000 If it was a white chick and he called her an animal, he would have been fine. 1.00

01:00:47.000 Yeah, and he would have called her the same exact words. 0.57

01:00:50.000 Look, it's all very tricky.

01:00:52.000 You know what I always say about whenever you see a situation where two people get into a fight?

01:00:58.000 It's not always just one guy's fault.

01:01:01.000 Sometimes it's both guys' fault.

01:01:03.000 Sometimes one, a different person, like if you talked to this guy, it would have never turned into a violent altercation, and maybe you would have walked away shaking hands.

01:01:11.000 Sorry, man.

01:01:12.000 And another guy talking to the same guy, it might lead to a bloody fistfight.

01:01:12.000 No worries, dude.

01:01:17.000 And it's just a matter of how do you communicate with people?

01:01:20.000 Who is this woman? 1.00

01:01:21.000 I've been, I was in New York City with this chick that I was dating.

01:01:24.000 We were walking down the street, and this girl was so nice.

01:01:28.000 She was so nice.

01:01:29.000 I mean, she was, she wouldn't be mean to anyone ever.

01:01:32.000 No mean faces.

01:01:33.000 She didn't have anything like that in her.

01:01:35.000 So we're walking and this black couple is walking in the same direction.

01:01:39.000 And the girl steps in between her and I and pushes this girl that I was with. 1.00

01:01:45.000 Just pushes her. 1.00

01:01:46.000 Move, bitch. 1.00

01:01:48.000 Just move, bitch, because we were walking this way and they were walking towards us. 1.00

01:01:52.000 And she just decided that that was her spot. 1.00

01:01:54.000 So she just elbowed this girl, said, move, bitch. 1.00

01:01:57.000 Wow. 1.00

01:01:57.000 And she pushed her to the side. 1.00

01:01:59.000 And I am thinking, we're about to go to war.

01:02:01.000 I'm like, we're about to go to war. 0.89

01:02:03.000 And I'm going to knock out the girl first because I don't want to have to deal with her while I'm hitting that other guy. 1.00

01:02:07.000 I'm like, this is about to be a fight. 1.00

01:02:09.000 And then that chick just turned and went, white bitches or something along the lines like that. 1.00

01:02:14.000 Some white and walked away and kept going, fortunately. 1.00

01:02:17.000 Because it was like all of a sudden a crit.

01:02:20.000 But I was like, that was like close to a fist fight for no reason. 0.98

01:02:23.000 And it just happened to be that that chick was black. 1.00

01:02:25.000 It just happened to be the girl that I was with was white and blonde. 0.99

01:02:28.000 But that happens. 1.00

01:02:29.000 There's black assholes out there. 1.00

01:02:31.000 Just like there's white assholes out there. 1.00

01:02:33.000 There's Chinese assholes out there. 1.00

01:02:35.000 That doesn't make me racist. 1.00

01:02:36.000 That makes me scared of people that are assholes. 1.00

01:02:40.000 And they come in all forms, bro. 1.00

01:02:42.000 I grew up in a Boston neighborhood.

01:02:45.000 There was Jamaica Plain, the place where I lived at before I moved to Newton, which was all cushy and nice.

01:02:49.000 Jamaica Plain was filled with these Irish savages. 1.00

01:02:52.000 They were dangerous fucking kids. 1.00

01:02:55.000 These dangerous Irish kids. 1.00

01:02:56.000 And if you ran into them, look, it didn't matter what race they were. 0.97

01:02:59.000 It's like, who's a savage? 0.98

01:03:01.000 Those kids were savages. 0.99

01:03:03.000 It didn't matter if they were white or Chinese. 1.00

01:03:05.000 You walk down the wrong street in Chinatown and you run into some crazy Chinese gang that wants to fuck you up. 1.00

01:03:10.000 You're not happy. 1.00

01:03:11.000 I mean, it's not better that way.

01:03:13.000 There's all sorts of races. 0.94

01:03:15.000 Every race contains savages. 1.00

01:03:17.000 Every race contains assholes. 1.00

01:03:19.000 And the problem is when it's a black person that's getting attacked by a white guy, you got to be real specific that it's that person that's a piece of shit. 1.00

01:03:28.000 And if some other people jumped in, it's them that are pieces of shit. 1.00

01:03:31.000 It's not the whole town. 1.00

01:03:33.000 It's not all black people. 1.00

01:03:34.000 It's not, you know, it's just there's a certain type of person, whether it's white or black or whatever, that's a piece of shit, you know? 1.00

01:03:41.000 And I don't know if it's this lady. 1.00

01:03:43.000 I don't know.

01:03:44.000 Who knows what happened to her that day?

01:03:47.000 You know, who knows what happened to her?

01:03:48.000 Who knows what's going on in her life?

01:03:50.000 And all of a sudden this guy's taking pictures at her. 1.00

01:03:52.000 She wants to punch him in the face. 0.76

01:03:53.000 Do you remember what time it was?

01:03:55.000 I forgot to look to see actually what time it occurred, but I think it was around 2 to 3 a.m. when the Twitter happened.

01:04:02.000 But, you know, I understand he's, if you looked at his photos on Instagram, he was taking a lot of photos of the city, a lot of photos of cops and construction workers and stuff like that.

01:04:12.000 I get having a great camera that you're playing, like New York's empty and you're downtown and you're taking photo and a woman's walking in the distance.

01:04:21.000 Yeah, you're taking her because it's a photo.

01:04:23.000 It's cool.

01:04:25.000 But, you know, I don't know what happened here, but what does seem to happen that she did attack him and he didn't have a police or deal with the police.

01:04:35.000 No, he doesn't call 911 because he figured like they wouldn't do anything.

01:04:38.000 You know, and maybe he's right.

01:04:38.000 Right.

01:04:40.000 But I don't think the right way to handle it is going on Twitter and going fucking crazy. 0.97

01:04:44.000 I mean, I think that that's something that someone does when you just want to lash out. 0.95

01:04:49.000 And for him, he likes to use social media to, you know, to get points across.

01:04:54.000 And that's a point, though, the black-on-white violence has been a point of interest of his for a long time.

01:04:59.000 You know, and There's a reality that it exists, just like white-on-black violence exists, just like all kinds of violence exists.

01:05:06.000 And Anthony is a guy who's particularly concerned with that.

01:05:08.000 It's one of the reasons why he carries a gun.

01:05:10.000 I mean, he's a rare person that has a concealed carry permit in New York City.

01:05:14.000 He's one of them. 1.00

01:05:15.000 He's got a big ass fucking booze. 1.00

01:05:15.000 It's pretty hard. 1.00

01:05:18.000 So this chick is hitting him while he's armed with a deadly weapon. 0.98

01:05:21.000 And then five other people jump in, apparently.

01:05:24.000 And the whole thing's chaos.

01:05:26.000 And I would have loved for it to be avoided. 0.95

01:05:28.000 But I think Sirius lost the potential opportunity to engage in a discussion about this, about violence in New York City, about violence in general, people interacting with each other, about interacting on social media, interacting when you're hot with fucking rage and you're just venting and ranting and calling someone a continent animal. 0.63

01:05:50.000 And what is your actual intent?

01:05:51.000 And what is my job as a representative of your SiriusXM?

01:05:56.000 Am I allowed to be Anthony?

01:05:58.000 Or do I have to be Anthony that only thinks like SiriusXM wants me to think and only tweets like SiriusXM wants me to tweet?

01:06:04.000 When are you clocked off work?

01:06:05.000 Exactly.

01:06:08.000 I'm not supporting him in this.

01:06:10.000 I'm saying this is a very tricky situation where the company has to be real careful because part of what you do is you promote free speech and you have a radio show and you have this network that's uncensored.

01:06:26.000 This network was the coolest thing about Sirius was you could get Howard Stern on it and he could swear.

01:06:31.000 It was the greatest thing of all time.

01:06:33.000 Like from now on, he's unchained and Opie and Anthony are unchained and comedy is unchained.

01:06:40.000 You can hear all my bits.

01:06:42.000 It's totally uncensored.

01:06:44.000 They have them on Sirius.

01:06:45.000 It's beautiful.

01:06:46.000 So if all of a sudden you decide that you don't like what a guy says on Twitter, so his opinions, which are very similar, that he's voiced on the radio, very similar if not identical, will now be silenced, it gets a little squirrely.

01:07:00.000 The whole thing is a backlash.

01:07:02.000 It's a backlash to the racism and or implied racism of his tweets.

01:07:07.000 You know, look, do I wish that he just went on the radio and explained himself in more than 140 characters?

01:07:14.000 Yes, because I bet he could have vented the exact same rage the next day with no Twitter thing and people would not have had a problem with it if he said it with his words, if he explained what happened. 0.61

01:07:25.000 There's a real problem with fucking getting out anything super important where you don't want to have any mistakes in how you're being perceived with 140 characters. 0.99

01:07:34.000 You know, you're saying cunt, animal, savage. 0.99

01:07:38.000 You know, he's not talking. 1.00

01:07:40.000 He's writing a bunch of shit down. 0.99

01:07:41.000 So are you mad that he's conveying those thoughts? 1.00

01:07:44.000 Do you not think that he would have those thoughts after this chick hit him?

01:07:47.000 Do you expect him to be angelic in his approach to violence?

01:07:52.000 Like, I don't know what you're looking for here.

01:07:54.000 Because if it's just that you think that what he said is racist, have you ever listened to that show? 1.00

01:07:59.000 Because if you listen to that show, he says shit like that all the time. 0.97

01:08:03.000 Also, if you have a job as a show host or a pundit, you really need to be allowed to say what you want on your social media, even if it kind of damages the nation. 0.99

01:08:11.000 But no, but no. 0.99

01:08:13.000 Because look, if he said all Jews need to be thrown into an oven and pissed on while they're on fire. 1.00

01:08:17.000 No. 0.99

01:08:18.000 No, that's a little bit different.

01:08:20.000 But is it different?

01:08:21.000 Because where does one draw the line?

01:08:23.000 What if he said that and he's only joking and it turns out he's actually Jewish?

01:08:26.000 Is that okay?

01:08:27.000 I don't know nearly enough about him or the show, so I really don't know.

01:08:30.000 I think it's the same thing.

01:08:32.000 I think when you say something absolutely, totally awful like that, like all Jews should be, like, you can't be associated with my company.

01:08:40.000 Right.

01:08:41.000 Well, Jack's not a serious person at that point. 0.99

01:08:43.000 That's a crazy person. 0.96

01:08:44.000 And it's a dangerous person, too, because who knows what percentage of the population that's listening that's unhinged that's been waiting for a guy like you to come along. 0.99

01:08:52.000 But he didn't do that. 0.91

01:08:54.000 You know, what he did is respond to a person who attacked him and then talk in very racial terms about the scenario and he has in the past on the radio show about what it's like to worry about black violence on white people.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, and that's what like the Young Turks thing you saw.

01:09:15.000 I don't know if you saw that or not, but that was.

01:09:18.000 That was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

01:09:21.000 I lost, I'm sorry, all respect for them just based off that one interview.

01:09:26.000 Because it was completely, you can know that they don't know the backstory.

01:09:30.000 They don't know, they don't listen to the show.

01:09:32.000 Right, but it's an interesting thing, though, isn't it?

01:09:34.000 When you're looking at someone who doesn't know Anthony, doesn't know the show, doesn't know the backstory, and is responding to, just deciding everything right there, you know, that he's perving, that he's taking a picture of this woman coming up the street and not knowing about all those other pictures that he had taken, and that he is an amateur photographer.

01:09:50.000 He loves taking pictures.

01:09:51.000 And a candid photo of a woman walking down the street, she's pretty, and she had long legs, and she had a nice body. 0.99

01:09:56.000 Look good, you know?

01:09:57.000 I heard three in the morning dressed up like street meet.

01:09:59.000 Absolutely.

01:10:00.000 How dare you?

01:10:00.000 Street meet.

01:10:02.000 But they jumped on him unfairly, and that was like Fox News.

01:10:06.000 It was like, wait, aren't you supposed to be the opposite of this?

01:10:08.000 No, I don't think it was like Fox News.

01:10:10.000 I think it was like they perceived what his words were. 0.98

01:10:14.000 I'm telling you, there's a fucking real problem with saying something like that at 140 characters. 1.00

01:10:19.000 It's stupid. 1.00

01:10:20.000 Like, I've said some dumb shit on Twitter before. 1.00

01:10:23.000 I've had people write full blogs on like one tweet that I had that was like a joke, just a joke tweet. 0.99

01:10:30.000 I get that.

01:10:31.000 I get that you could decide that, you know, you have a green light to write something.

01:10:35.000 140 characters doesn't work.

01:10:39.000 It doesn't work for anything important.

01:10:40.000 If you really had a situation where you thought your life was in danger or you thought, you know, you were, you know, you were going to go unconscious or you're going to lose your eyesight.

01:10:50.000 Like apparently he had like spots on his eyes.

01:10:52.000 Wouldn't you want to hear that?

01:10:54.000 Like the full version of it?

01:10:55.000 I think if Anthony just would tell the full version of it on the air and avoid the tweets, none of this would have happened.

01:11:03.000 He would have been able to express himself the exact same way. 1.00

01:11:06.000 That fucking cunt animal. 1.00

01:11:08.000 He would have been able to say whatever he wanted. 1.00

01:11:10.000 He would have been able to talk in depth about black on white violence, which I'm not saying that's all that exists. 0.73

01:11:16.000 There's plenty of white-on-black violence.

01:11:18.000 There's plenty.

01:11:19.000 I'm saying that it exists. 0.68

01:11:21.000 I mean, to pretend it doesn't exist is pretty silly to me. 0.99

01:11:24.000 To pretend there's not black people that will hit white people and rob them, just like to pretend there's not white people Who will hit black people and rob them? 0.99

01:11:32.000 Of course, it exists. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Racism exists.

01:11:34.000 Violent racism from random people on both sides can and does exist. 1.00

01:11:40.000 So, is he right in saying that it exists from them, or would he have to qualify it first by saying that there's a lot of piece of shit white people out there as well? 1.00

01:11:49.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:11:50.000 You know, I don't know. 0.98

01:11:51.000 But in my opinion, what they're doing is silly. 0.93

01:11:53.000 This is a quote from Penn Gillette today. 0.96

01:11:55.000 Yeah, Penn says this.

01:11:57.000 If I'm in a position where I cross somebody who's carrying a gun and can defend themselves and hurt me, and their choice is to write angry stuff on Twitter instead of fighting me back, wonderful Gandhi.

01:12:09.000 That's Gandhi.

01:12:10.000 Yeah, I don't agree with that.

01:12:12.000 I think just because you have a gun, that doesn't make you any more special.

01:12:15.000 Like, well, I didn't use my gun.

01:12:17.000 It's like, that shouldn't even be on the table in the first place.

01:12:19.000 Well, it certainly should be on the table if someone's trying to take your life.

01:12:21.000 What's the difference between someone punishing you with their knuckles and someone beating you to death?

01:12:26.000 How much of a background do you have in violence?

01:12:28.000 Have you ever seen someone get knocked unconscious in a street fight?

01:12:32.000 Actually, yeah, but on YouTube.

01:12:34.000 I've seen it in real life.

01:12:35.000 I've seen it in real life a few times, and it's terrifying.

01:12:39.000 I saw in real life once in Hollywood, there was a moment in front of the comedy store.

01:12:43.000 We're all hanging out.

01:12:44.000 It was after a show.

01:12:46.000 And this guy and this other guy got in this argument.

01:12:49.000 And there was traffic going by, and they're right in front of the House of Blues, which is directly across the street from the comedy store.

01:12:56.000 And in the middle of this argument, there's back and forth, and it's a white guy and a black guy.

01:13:01.000 And you see them start to swing at each other.

01:13:04.000 And the white guy goes into a full panic.

01:13:07.000 All I remember is this guy, like, standing, like, wincing his eyes and flailing with his hands.

01:13:13.000 Like, literally had, it was just in full panic.

01:13:16.000 And this black guy is, I see him hit him, and I see cars go in front of it. 0.96

01:13:22.000 And I don't know what happened.

01:13:23.000 I just, I know that they're hitting each other because the white guy was flailing, but I don't see the connection.

01:13:29.000 And then the car goes back, you know, the car passes, and the guy's flat out cold on the concrete, just in serious trouble.

01:13:36.000 He's in the street.

01:13:37.000 There's cars going by.

01:13:39.000 He's in a fight with a guy and he's completely unconscious.

01:13:41.000 And everybody's screaming.

01:13:42.000 There's cars honking.

01:13:43.000 And this guy's out cold on the street.

01:13:46.000 That guy could die easy.

01:13:48.000 And again, let me tell you something.

01:13:49.000 A woman can do that to you, just like a man can do that to you. 1.00

01:13:52.000 If you don't think that there's women out there that can punch you in the face and knock you unconscious, it's because you've never been punched by a woman. 1.00

01:13:58.000 There's a lot of women that can punch really fucking hard. 1.00

01:14:01.000 You know, see these snacks? 1.00

01:14:04.000 That's my friend Miriam.

01:14:06.000 Miriam Nakamoto.

01:14:07.000 She's an eight-time world Muay Thai champion.

01:14:09.000 She beat a man in a kickboxing bout. 0.99

01:14:11.000 She's beautiful.

01:14:12.000 She's a nice person.

01:14:13.000 She makes snacks now. 1.00

01:14:14.000 But if that chick punches you in the face, you're fucksvil. 1.00

01:14:17.000 You know, like for real. 1.00

01:14:19.000 Like a regular guy who doesn't know how to fight, she'll beat the fucking brakes off you. 1.00

01:14:22.000 It's not good. 0.99

01:14:24.000 So he doesn't know anything about this girl.

01:14:26.000 And if the girl starts teeing off on him with left and rights and she's got like precision punching, guess what? 1.00

01:14:31.000 You're going to go unconscious.

01:14:33.000 So should you applaud him for not pulling out his gun?

01:14:36.000 Yeah.

01:14:37.000 You shouldn't pull out a gun in that situation and he did the right thing.

01:14:37.000 Yeah.

01:14:41.000 So that I agree with him.

01:14:42.000 Yeah, I just wouldn't go as far as saying that he is Gandhi.

01:14:47.000 He's joking.

01:14:48.000 Yeah, I know he's joking.

01:14:48.000 That's why it's written.

01:14:50.000 See, when it's written, you get all fucked up. 1.00

01:14:52.000 You get all fucked up. 0.99

01:14:52.000 Even you, the regular person, of course, is going to get completely different. 0.99

01:14:56.000 It's impossible to tell sarcasm.

01:14:58.000 Like, I thought that he was serious because he's a pretty serious guy. 0.98

01:15:03.000 I realize he does a show in Vegas and shit, but he's very serious. 0.94

01:15:06.000 He has a lot of serious ideas. 0.99

01:15:07.000 He is serious.

01:15:08.000 I mean, he's joking about that by saying he's Gandhi.

01:15:10.000 Right, but he's a joke.

01:15:11.000 His premise is serious.

01:15:12.000 Yeah, the premise is absolutely serious.

01:15:14.000 It's true.

01:15:14.000 Is there any way to see a security video of how this went down?

01:15:17.000 That's a good question.

01:15:18.000 Good question.

01:15:19.000 Given how, I mean, Sirius is a big company and it's kind of big implications to drop one of your biggest hosts.

01:15:24.000 Well, the outrage was all over online.

01:15:27.000 I mean, people went crazy about it.

01:15:28.000 People went crazy about it.

01:15:29.000 There's petitions right now that are up to, like, I think last I saw was 15,000.

01:15:33.000 You know, there's the cancel once canceling.

01:15:36.000 They have to be getting hurt by this because, honestly, Howard Stern and Opium Anthony, that's pretty much fueling that channel.

01:15:44.000 I would imagine.

01:15:45.000 Do you know that for sure?

01:15:46.000 Because I don't know what they make their money off.

01:15:47.000 I have no idea.

01:15:48.000 I would just be guessing.

01:15:49.000 Well, I would imagine that Opie and Anthony is definitely a huge pie.

01:15:53.000 It's a great show.

01:15:54.000 It's a great show.

01:15:55.000 And by the way, if it was on the internet, it would still be awesome.

01:15:59.000 If they just switched to the internet, it'd be huge.

01:16:01.000 I mean, it might be a great opportunity for them.

01:16:03.000 I mean, if they cancel Anthony, if they fire Anthony, is Opie still under contract?

01:16:07.000 I mean, how does that work?

01:16:08.000 What OP said today is that him and Jim will be back Monday, next Monday.

01:16:13.000 And so they might be making it the Opie and Jim show just based on contracts.

01:16:18.000 But what's interesting is leading up to this is how much Opie has been talking about that he's done.

01:16:24.000 He's not going to sign a contract.

01:16:26.000 He wants to do a podcast.

01:16:27.000 done, and this whole timing of this is very interesting because...

01:16:34.000 It's very interesting.

01:16:37.000 Very interesting.

01:16:38.000 Yeah, Wonder Man.

01:16:39.000 I hope they do a podcast.

01:16:40.000 Look, this show is awesome.

01:16:41.000 It's a funny show to watch.

01:16:42.000 Little Jimmy's the funniest guy ever on radio.

01:16:44.000 Jim Norton is my favorite guy ever of all time on radio.

01:16:47.000 No question about it.

01:16:49.000 Consistently comes with the funny.

01:16:51.000 He's hilarious and he's smart.

01:16:53.000 He's well thought out.

01:16:54.000 He's an interesting dude.

01:16:56.000 He's honest.

01:16:56.000 I really love Jimmy.

01:16:58.000 I think he's a hilarious comedian, too.

01:16:59.000 He's so fun.

01:17:01.000 Plus, he makes me feel, I don't feel like it's so much of a perb after I hang out with him. 0.95

01:17:04.000 Like, I thought my act had too many dick jokes, and I went to see him, and I even told him that. 0.95

01:17:08.000 I go, dude, I had the best time. 0.97

01:17:10.000 You freed me in a lot of ways. 0.99

01:17:11.000 Because sometimes I go, man, I got so many dick jokes. 0.98

01:17:13.000 Why do I keep writing dick jokes? 0.99

01:17:14.000 His whole act was dick jokes from beginning to end, and I loved it. 0.99

01:17:18.000 It was awesome. 0.93

01:17:19.000 I saw him at Cobbs, Cobbs Comedy Club in Austin.

01:17:24.000 Not Cobbs, Cap City, Cap City Comedy Club in Austin.

01:17:28.000 Anthony's starting his compound show this week, though, so that's going to be interesting because I don't know if he has a lawyer, if he said he was going to lawyer up, but what if he can talk about and what he can't talk about?

01:17:40.000 It's going to be interesting.

01:17:41.000 Well, I'm pretty sure he could probably talk about the incident.

01:17:45.000 That he could talk about.

01:17:46.000 No one can keep you from talking about a person attacking you.

01:17:50.000 How could they keep you from doing that?

01:17:51.000 Any person that could keep you from doing that is not a person you want to be associated with.

01:17:55.000 They fire you for that?

01:17:56.000 Good.

01:17:57.000 Imagine someone keeping you from talking about you being attacked, Like your own personal experience, how he expresses himself is entirely up to him.

01:18:05.000 I think we'll probably get a more balanced view of it now than when it happened.

01:18:12.000 You know, I think he's probably going to take into consideration all the heat and the bullshit and the time that's elapsed and the emotions that have relaxed and the tension that's relaxed, the sting of the punches, and he'll be able to look at it and give you a funny assessment of it.

01:18:27.000 But the show will just be better if they go on the internet.

01:18:32.000 They can do whatever they want.

01:18:33.000 100 times.

01:18:34.000 You don't need anybody anymore.

01:18:35.000 And they can move anywhere.

01:18:36.000 You just don't.

01:18:37.000 Yeah, they can move anywhere they want.

01:18:39.000 You don't need anybody anymore. 0.92

01:18:41.000 It's silly.

01:18:42.000 It's like the amount of people that don't have iPods or iPhones or can't get their phone to stream through their radio, it's come almost everybody now.

01:18:51.000 It's really close, you know?

01:18:53.000 I mean, especially if you're commuting, if you're getting on subways and shit like that, it's actually better than having some sort of a satellite that sends it to you.

01:19:01.000 And you can get it whenever you want.

01:19:03.000 You could pause it.

01:19:04.000 You could listen whenever you want.

01:19:05.000 It's just a better medium, you know?

01:19:08.000 And don't get me wrong, I have three cars that have Sirius satellite radio.

01:19:12.000 I love it. 0.98

01:19:13.000 I love the fact that I could flip through the shit and listen to new music. 0.99

01:19:13.000 It's great. 0.99

01:19:17.000 I love that I can get on the classic vinyl station and listen to all classic rock because I'm old as fuck. 0.99

01:19:23.000 I'm old as fuck and I reminisce. 0.99

01:19:25.000 I'll listen to some Bob Seeger. 0.99

01:19:28.000 I like it.

01:19:29.000 I like Sirius.

01:19:30.000 I'll keep it as a product.

01:19:31.000 But man, you got to realize what you're selling.

01:19:33.000 The music channels are definitely great for sure.

01:19:36.000 I have them into my cars also.

01:19:38.000 I know that the majority of what I listen to, though, is Opi and Anthony.

01:19:41.000 And it used to be Howard Stern, but again, you know, it's just kind of not the same.

01:19:47.000 Yeah, I think that they would be just as happy, if not happier, on the internet.

01:19:53.000 I think they would do just as well, if not better, on the internet.

01:19:56.000 I don't think there's any downside to this.

01:19:58.000 No one can stop you anymore.

01:20:00.000 They used to just be able to fire you, and that was it.

01:20:02.000 They can't do that anymore because anybody could just go on YouTube with their cell phone.

01:20:06.000 You could just start the David Seaman show sitting here at Chipotle. 0.99

01:20:10.000 Look, this fucking government build's going on right now. 0.99

01:20:14.000 It's basically what I do. 1.00

01:20:15.000 Yeah.

01:20:16.000 With a green screen.

01:20:17.000 Yeah.

01:20:17.000 Using a cell phone and a green screen.

01:20:19.000 What if this would have happened if that serious just instead took a different route?

01:20:23.000 Because, you know, they bitch about their studio and how horrible it is and stuff like that.

01:20:26.000 What if they could just send it in?

01:20:28.000 Like kind of what Joe Rogan experience does to them.

01:20:32.000 Right, right, right.

01:20:33.000 But what if, would they still be as upset if he did all this Twitter rampage, if he just had a send-in show where they had their own staff, their own employees, their own sponsors, and they just send it in?

01:20:45.000 Well, we're getting into a lot of what-ifs now.

01:20:47.000 We're not business people, obviously.

01:20:49.000 That's why we work together.

01:20:52.000 I don't know what it would be like to be a part of a shareholder corporation.

01:20:56.000 They have shares. 1.00

01:20:57.000 They're responsible for a lot of shit. 1.00

01:20:59.000 They have to listen to a lot of people, man. 1.00

01:21:01.000 There's a lot of people involved.

01:21:02.000 When you have companies, man, anytime anything gets crazy and people start protesting, you got to act.

01:21:08.000 You got to get out there and you got to save this company as the shareholder, you know, as the CEO. 0.95

01:21:15.000 Like the guy, the fucking NBA guy when they got rid of Donald Sterling. 0.98

01:21:20.000 What's his name? 1.00

01:21:21.000 That fucking bald dragon-looking dude that was so ridiculous on that podium. 1.00

01:21:25.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:21:26.000 Oh, that was so ridiculous. 0.93

01:21:27.000 Adam Silver. 1.00

01:21:28.000 That goofy fuck. 1.00

01:21:29.000 That shit was so ridiculous. 1.00

01:21:31.000 We fined him the maximum amount. 1.00

01:21:33.000 You know, that drives me crazy, that whole story. 1.00

01:21:36.000 Like, you got an old guy who's known for saying racial shit. 1.00

01:21:40.000 He tells his girlfriend she can fuck black guys, just don't take pictures with them. 1.00

01:21:43.000 And all you can focus on is the picture part. 1.00

01:21:46.000 He's letting her fuck black guys. 1.00

01:21:48.000 And you guys are going to fine them. 1.00

01:21:50.000 Right?

01:21:50.000 2.5 million?

01:21:52.000 That's ridiculous. 0.91

01:21:53.000 The highest amount. 0.96

01:21:54.000 Oh, it seems reasonable. 0.98

01:21:55.000 Yeah, he told her don't take pictures of black guys. 1.00

01:21:57.000 What an asshole. 1.00

01:21:59.000 You can fuck them, though. 1.00

01:22:00.000 They leave that out. 1.00

01:22:02.000 They totally leave that out.

01:22:03.000 Why would he leave that out?

01:22:04.000 Because you can't bring it up. 1.00

01:22:07.000 Imagine that was you and you were the commissioner of the NBA and you had to explain to people and you were like, look, on the bright side, he's allowing her to fuck black guys. 1.00

01:22:15.000 Right? 1.00

01:22:17.000 Yeah.

01:22:20.000 I don't know what to make of that one either because it seems like this goes back to what you were saying about how, you know, to get into an altercation or something, both people kind of need to be involved.

01:22:30.000 Right. 0.99

01:22:30.000 And you don't have to be an asshole and say those things. 0.99

01:22:33.000 And if you're going to be an asshole and say those things, you have to be aware that if you're also prominent and you own a fucking sports team, people are going to listen to what you say more so than somebody in a trailer saying the same thing on YouTube, right? 0.99

01:22:45.000 Like if you post that in the YouTube comment section, you're not going to see a national uproar, especially if you're not that dude. 1.00

01:22:51.000 But if you're a billionaire and you own a sports team and you're always in the public eye, even if you're old, that's not an excuse for saying racist shit. 0.98

01:22:58.000 You're absolutely right, and I agree with you 100%. 0.99

01:23:01.000 But here's the but.

01:23:04.000 You're looking at this guy and this guy is being recorded against his will.

01:23:08.000 He has no idea he's being recorded.

01:23:10.000 That's what he says.

01:23:11.000 So you're in a Mel Gibson possible scenario there.

01:23:13.000 Yeah, you're in a scenario where you're dating this girl and she, I don't know, did she blackmail you?

01:23:18.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:23:19.000 I have no idea what the story is, but I know that he did say he should have paid her off.

01:23:22.000 That is what he said.

01:23:23.000 That was one of his quotes, that he should have paid her off.

01:23:26.000 And all this stuff comes out, and no one is saying that what she did is illegal.

01:23:31.000 No one's freaking out.

01:23:32.000 Everyone's paying attention to the fact that... 1.00

01:23:34.000 I think people are freaking out that he comes across as an asshole, too. 1.00

01:23:38.000 I should have paid her off. 0.99

01:23:39.000 You should have said sorry.

01:23:40.000 Like, that to everybody is the kind of the character of the old billionaire who represents everything that the average working person kind of despises, right? 0.99

01:23:49.000 This old white guy is saying this shit that really is insensitive at best. 0.99

01:23:53.000 And I can, that's one of the situations where I can see that the media is just manipulating people and it's this like bullshit anger that we're being collectively drawn into. 1.00

01:23:53.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:02.000 Right. 1.00

01:24:03.000 But at the same time, like, well, and the guy is kind of an asshole. 0.99

01:24:05.000 Like, there's not 100% culpability in either direction. 0.99

01:24:09.000 Exactly.

01:24:09.000 It's just like what we've been talking about all day.

01:24:11.000 It's the same thing.

01:24:12.000 It's like, there's not black and whites in everything. 0.87

01:24:15.000 But somebody like that, I give less leeway for sure.

01:24:17.000 Like somebody like that, less leeway than a private citizen.

01:24:20.000 He's a private citizen.

01:24:20.000 Wait a minute.

01:24:21.000 What do you mean?

01:24:22.000 Billionaire and you own a sports team.

01:24:24.000 You have to be aware that you have an influence when you say things.

01:24:27.000 Whereas just some person on the sidewalk who says that, most people are going to be like, well, it's not my job to cast their business.

01:24:33.000 See, I can't see a way to justify recording someone and playing what they said, no matter what it is, if it's not a crime.

01:24:41.000 You know, if it's as mildly offensive as that, and it is offensive. 0.98

01:24:44.000 But he's an old guy, and he's got this young girlfriend that he's trying to fuck. 0.98

01:24:48.000 And we're supposed to, it's not a statement. 0.98

01:24:50.000 He's not making an affidavit. 1.00

01:24:52.000 He's trying to bang some chick, and he's telling her to please, I don't care if you fuck him, just don't take pictures with him, okay? 1.00

01:24:58.000 And he's trying to get his freak on. 1.00

01:25:00.000 She records that.

01:25:00.000 I mean, that's exactly what happened.

01:25:02.000 And that is exactly what he said happened.

01:25:03.000 He thought it was a private conversation between the two of them. 0.89

01:25:06.000 Is it despicable that he doesn't want her to take pictures with black guys because it makes him look bad? 0.92

01:25:10.000 Yeah, it's not cool. 1.00

01:25:12.000 But he does let her fuck him. 1.00

01:25:13.000 I mean, that is a part of what he said, right? 1.00

01:25:16.000 I mean, this isn't as simple as racism. 1.00

01:25:18.000 He said, I don't care if you fuck them. 1.00

01:25:21.000 Like, how racist is he? 1.00

01:25:22.000 He's letting her fuck black guys. 1.00

01:25:24.000 Well, that's a low-level racist for sure. 1.00

01:25:26.000 And does he saying this in public?

01:25:28.000 Is this a big, bold statement on Twitter like Anthony?

01:25:31.000 No.

01:25:32.000 No, he's in the confines of his own home and he's trying to get laid.

01:25:37.000 And he was probably had a couple of drinks in him, too.

01:25:39.000 You're going to hold the guy to that publicly? 1.00

01:25:42.000 Yeah, is he an asshole? 1.00

01:25:43.000 Yes. 1.00

01:25:43.000 But he's not trying to hurt feelings. 1.00

01:25:44.000 He's not trying to spread hate.

01:25:46.000 I mean, he's just trying to get laid.

01:25:47.000 It seems to me that the intent of what you're saying, like the context and the intent are pretty critical when you release something like that and you get angry and fine someone for something like that.

01:25:58.000 That was a knee-jerk reactionary response that they took. 0.99

01:26:01.000 Regardless of whether the guy is an asshole, I've heard both ways. 1.00

01:26:05.000 I've heard more that he is than he isn't. 1.00

01:26:07.000 Who knows?

01:26:07.000 I don't know.

01:26:08.000 But I don't like it.

01:26:09.000 I don't think it's cool. 1.00

01:26:10.000 I don't think it's cool that you take this old asshole and do that to him. 1.00

01:26:14.000 And I think he's going to wind up selling the Clippers for like a fucking trillion dollars. 1.00

01:26:19.000 He's going to profit off of it anyway. 0.98

01:26:20.000 Yeah.

01:26:21.000 And there's reports that he's just going crazy.

01:26:24.000 And that's also taking something that, like you said, private in your own house.

01:26:31.000 It should be 100% illegal.

01:26:33.000 Like I shouldn't have to worry about you taking all my texts and all my stuff out of my phone and then putting it online.

01:26:38.000 And why are you being fined $2.5 million if a crime wasn't committed?

01:26:42.000 Exactly.

01:26:43.000 You're not the government.

01:26:44.000 Why are you fining somebody that much money?

01:26:45.000 It's one thing if it's like, we're going to dock your pay for a week.

01:26:49.000 That's not Chump change. 0.99

01:26:50.000 I understand he's a billionaire, but you're enforcing something with a lot of weight there.

01:26:54.000 I couldn't agree more.

01:26:55.000 And I also think that it's a situation that merits a serious conversation.

01:27:00.000 It merits a serious conversation about race, about context, about privacy.

01:27:05.000 It merits that.

01:27:05.000 What it doesn't merit is some guy giving some canned speech where he's got this righteous indignation in his voice.

01:27:12.000 We are going to fine him the maximum amount.

01:27:15.000 I mean, he's basically running for president or something.

01:27:17.000 He's got that fake politician thing going on where he's giving this speech.

01:27:20.000 Totally disingenuous. 0.74

01:27:22.000 The whole thing's goofy.

01:27:23.000 Like, you're going to, what?

01:27:24.000 Are you not paying attention to the whole recording?

01:27:26.000 Why are you focused on the one part? 0.99

01:27:27.000 Don't take pictures of black guys. 1.00

01:27:29.000 They're freaks. 1.00

01:27:30.000 He's letting her fuck guys. 1.00

01:27:32.000 Like, this is not a normal dude. 1.00

01:27:33.000 And he's at home in his bedroom.

01:27:36.000 Is this real?

01:27:37.000 Is this a real world where you just find him two and a half million dollars from that? 1.00

01:27:41.000 You guys are assholes. 1.00

01:27:42.000 The whole thing is an asshole organization. 1.00

01:27:44.000 What you should all do is sit down and have a conversation. 1.00

01:27:48.000 Everybody sit down and you go, what happened here? 0.99

01:27:51.000 And he gets a chance to say, well, I was hanging out with this chick and I buy her Ferraris and shit. 0.99

01:27:57.000 I got a fat penthouse for her. 1.00

01:27:59.000 She's my gumad.

01:28:00.000 I got her on the side. 1.00

01:28:01.000 But she fucks all the black guys. 1.00

01:28:03.000 She takes pictures and my friends stick them in my face mocking me. 1.00

01:28:06.000 So I told her, don't take pictures of black guys, please. 1.00

01:28:09.000 Would you really freak out if someone said that? 0.95

01:28:11.000 He'd be like, well, that's an unfortunate relationship for that poor old billionaire. 0.98

01:28:15.000 And sort of an unfortunate, even more unfortunate relationship for that lovely young lady who has such low self-esteem that she needs this old man to pay for her sex and buy her things. 1.00

01:28:25.000 And that's how she gets by by hustling. 1.00

01:28:27.000 And in the meantime, she hangs out with all these black guys. 0.98

01:28:30.000 Whatever, man. 1.00

01:28:31.000 What do you give a fuck? 1.00

01:28:32.000 This is goofy. 1.00

01:28:33.000 This is a goofy thing for you to be taking up my CNN with.

01:28:36.000 Over and over and over again, playing it back and forth, and the sorrow details of the Donald Sterling tapes emerge.

01:28:42.000 He didn't want him.

01:28:44.000 Come on.

01:28:46.000 Come on. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Silly. 1.00

01:28:48.000 It's a non-issue. 0.99

01:28:49.000 He's not an evil person.

01:28:50.000 He's not Hitler.

01:28:51.000 He didn't even say a racial slur.

01:28:54.000 He said.

01:28:55.000 North Korea, people are being sent to concentration camps.

01:28:57.000 CNN has zero interest in really covering that, you know.

01:29:03.000 The depictions, the illustrated depictions, that that one guy who escaped from the camp, you've ever seen that one?

01:29:09.000 The guy who escaped from the prison camp was showing the various stages.

01:29:12.000 Brian, pull that up because you could see it.

01:29:15.000 You could look at the actual images.

01:29:17.000 Yeah, I don't think I've seen it, but sounds pretty cruz. 0.85

01:29:19.000 It's going to freak you the fuck out.

01:29:20.000 It's a guy who escaped from this, you know, essentially slave camp, the slave prison camp.

01:29:25.000 Yeah, they had like hundreds of thousands of people there who were in straight-up concentration camps.

01:29:28.000 People are born there, man.

01:29:30.000 People are born in these camps.

01:29:31.000 I mean, it's unbelievably heartbreaking when you hear these stories.

01:29:36.000 One guy escaped and he had been, I think it's the same guy, he had been born there.

01:29:40.000 He grew up there.

01:29:41.000 He had no idea what life outside the camps was.

01:29:44.000 And he started explaining all the various aspects of torture, what level of deterioration they would judge prisoners at. 0.99

01:29:51.000 I mean, it's complete Nazi Germany type shit. 0.99

01:29:54.000 And it's going on in 2014 right now. 0.99

01:29:57.000 It's just like Nazi Germany stuff. 0.51

01:30:00.000 I mean, I don't know how they single out the prisoners, what they're in there for, why they, is it political dissent?

01:30:06.000 Is it crime?

01:30:07.000 I don't know what it is.

01:30:09.000 But they've, when they, once they've decided, this is the enemy, this is us, this is the good.

01:30:14.000 So they don't have to do anything over there. 0.91

01:30:16.000 He, I think, sent like all of his girlfriend's family, or his ex-girlfriend's family to one of the camps or some shit. 0.99

01:30:21.000 It's crazy. 0.99

01:30:22.000 He did?

01:30:23.000 Google like Kim Jong, whatever.

01:30:26.000 I forget the guy's name.

01:30:27.000 Kim Jong-un.

01:30:28.000 Just Google that and like ex-girlfriend. 0.91

01:30:30.000 Oh, God.

01:30:31.000 Well, I know he did that one.

01:30:32.000 Ex-girlfriend.

01:30:33.000 He killed his uncle, right?

01:30:34.000 He executed his uncle. 1.00

01:30:35.000 He's a crazy dude. 1.00

01:30:38.000 So that, anyway, my point with that is that shows you that the whole media moral equivalency thing is bullshit. 1.00

01:30:43.000 They focus on things as if it's a moral outrage. 0.84

01:30:45.000 And I'm like, yeah, I could see how this is offensive, but what about that?

01:30:50.000 What about everything else happening in the world?

01:30:53.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

01:30:56.000 I couldn't even imagine living in a place like North Korea. 0.99

01:30:59.000 I mean, it's not even...

01:31:04.000 Are you going to bring up whatever that thing is?

01:31:05.000 Yeah, yeah, Brian is trying to find it.

01:31:07.000 As soon as he finds it.

01:31:09.000 Is the search room to say that I'm not finding it?

01:31:11.000 Did you write North Korea escape pictures?

01:31:15.000 North Korea escape pictures.

01:31:19.000 He drew them all. 1.00

01:31:22.000 it's really dark shit, man. 0.99

01:31:24.000 He drew all these, uh, You know what I'm talking about? 0.99

01:31:29.000 I didn't find it.

01:31:30.000 I don't remember you.

01:31:30.000 I did that at once.

01:31:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:33.000 It's a prisoner.

01:31:36.000 Right here, right?

01:31:37.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:31:39.000 Yeah, Imanu escaped to North Korea prison.

01:31:41.000 This is it.

01:31:42.000 So this guy, he drew these depictions of how malnourished people would be and how they would treat them.

01:31:51.000 How they would treat them based on what they weighed, what jobs he would give them, up until the moment when they died.

01:31:57.000 That's some unreal stuff.

01:31:59.000 Yeah, it's insane.

01:32:00.000 Like, look at this. 0.98

01:32:01.000 This guy's killing babies. 0.98

01:32:03.000 Jesus. 0.97

01:32:04.000 Yeah, dude, it's dark.

01:32:06.000 And it's going on right now.

01:32:08.000 I mean, it's confirmed.

01:32:10.000 I mean, it's a scary place.

01:32:11.000 When you know that the guy who's the head of Korea right now, someone was trying to make a coup against him.

01:32:17.000 He had him assassinated, and he had his sons assassinated because he thought his sons would one day try to seek revenge.

01:32:24.000 So he had his sons killed, and then he had his wife, and he gave his wife a raise. 0.81

01:32:29.000 Yeah, he gave her like a better position in a raise. 0.99

01:32:32.000 Like the whole situation is completely gangster.

01:32:35.000 Could you imagine a guy kills your sons and then gives you some sort of a new job?

01:32:40.000 Oh, okay. 0.99

01:32:41.000 Yeah.

01:32:42.000 Seems normal.

01:32:43.000 Well, they treat him almost as like a god, right?

01:32:45.000 So it's a little bit different.

01:32:47.000 They worship everything he does.

01:32:49.000 I think it's just straight fear, you know?

01:32:51.000 I don't know.

01:32:52.000 That's probably part of it also.

01:32:54.000 Do you know that when his father died, if people didn't cry convincingly enough, they got like six-month terms?

01:33:00.000 Wow.

01:33:01.000 2014.

01:33:02.000 It's going on right now.

01:33:04.000 Happening.

01:33:04.000 That's completely crazy.

01:33:05.000 I can't see why the Twitter storm can't focus on that asshole for a little bit, make his life difficult. 1.00

01:33:09.000 What can you do? 1.00

01:33:11.000 Send him pizzas.

01:33:13.000 How much?

01:33:14.000 Bankrupt him until the U.S. invades him. 0.94

01:33:17.000 Well, the problem is they'll take it.

01:33:19.000 They'll be fine.

01:33:20.000 There's enough resources that they'll be fine.

01:33:22.000 People will starve to death.

01:33:23.000 I mean, look what they're doing to these people in these prisoner camps. 1.00

01:33:26.000 It's fucking unbelievably terrifying shit, man, that that can happen. 0.99

01:33:30.000 That the world can vary so much. 1.00

01:33:32.000 That's what's scary.

01:33:34.000 Because it gives us the possibility of that happening here.

01:33:38.000 You start thinking, like, man.

01:33:39.000 Well, that's why I'm so against government overreach because it doesn't start all at once.

01:33:43.000 And then at one point, that was a new thing for them.

01:33:46.000 Like, oh, I guess we got this now, right?

01:33:48.000 And then you grow up and that's just normalcy, even though it's completely insane to everybody else.

01:33:53.000 That's what this surveillance stuff is, is complete insanity.

01:33:57.000 And everybody in Europe is pissed off about it.

01:33:58.000 And here, things have been kind of normalized.

01:34:00.000 And it's like, well, it has kept us safe.

01:34:03.000 And the new thing that came out, I think in the Washington Post or the Times, is about how nine out of 10 people that they're grabbing the photos and videos and stuff of are not even the targets.

01:34:13.000 They're just people being incidentally sucked up.

01:34:16.000 But when they say like, we're incidentally grabbing their data, it means like really intimate stuff.

01:34:20.000 Like the video conversations that people have had with their partners are just being stored in databases.

01:34:27.000 And that's the beginning of, and there was another report that they might be collecting baby photos.

01:34:34.000 The NSA might be archiving people's baby photos. 0.98

01:34:37.000 That's the beginning of not tomorrow, but maybe in 50 years for sure, some shit like that. 0.97

01:34:42.000 Because that's how it starts, right? 0.98

01:34:44.000 It's like you get to stage one.

01:34:46.000 Maybe we don't even see stage two in our lifetimes.

01:34:48.000 But to give people you don't know that kind of power is insane.

01:34:51.000 Right.

01:34:52.000 And if things go bad, that's when you can justify stage two.

01:34:57.000 Things are fine now, but look, what if a Katrina-type situation happened?

01:35:01.000 One of the things that every leader, every great military leader knows is that you must capitalize on opportunities.

01:35:09.000 And when a tragedy takes place, it's not just a tragedy, but it's also an opportunity for more control.

01:35:15.000 And it's one of the things that classically people have done throughout time.

01:35:18.000 And in U.S. history, it's very easy to map.

01:35:22.000 And it's one of the reasons why conspiracy theories are so rampant when it comes to big crimes like Oklahoma City is because you see a ramp up of the laws afterwards and a lot of people think, well, this was a false flag event.

01:35:34.000 It was used to justify the ramping off of the laws.

01:35:37.000 And now they have more control. 0.90

01:35:38.000 Whether or not it was or wasn't, the point being, every time there is some sort of an incident where things go bad, whoever is a power-hungry fuckhead tries to take more control, as if it would have protected them from that situation. 0.79

01:35:51.000 Whether it's the Oklahoma thing, whether it's 9-11, if 9-11 was just an attack and it wasn't just some nefarious plot, I mean it was just some nefarious plot from some overseas people.

01:36:02.000 It had nothing to do with the United States government.

01:36:04.000 It doesn't matter.

01:36:05.000 The United States government still capitalized on it.

01:36:07.000 I think that they do.

01:36:09.000 That's absolutely what I believe happened, by the way, is that there was not a it was not an inside job.

01:36:15.000 It was an opportunistic thing afterwards where, oh, this fell in our lap.

01:36:19.000 We're going to capitalize on it to the maximum amount possible, which is what they did.

01:36:23.000 The neoconservatives under Bush got us into two wars that arguably we didn't need to be in at all.

01:36:28.000 What's a classic military tactic?

01:36:30.000 Yeah, and introduced all these laws that really, I think, shut down a lot of the innovation we're seeing now, like people speaking freely, podcasts, you know, TV shows where people are really speaking their minds. 0.93

01:36:40.000 All that shit kind of went on ice during the Bush administration.

01:36:43.000 Like, I hate to be like a Bush hater, but I noticed because I was in high school at the time during the Bush administration. 0.99

01:36:49.000 I was in high school when 9-11 happened, and I noticed the kind of death of vitality. 0.98

01:36:55.000 And people were afraid to be, you don't want to sound like an asshole, right? 0.98

01:36:59.000 Like, everybody was for the Iraq war. 0.99

01:37:02.000 And if you're like, I don't know, like, should we go in there?

01:37:04.000 People just go, 9-11, have you forgotten?

01:37:07.000 And they're like, I'm not sure how the two are connected, really.

01:37:09.000 Like, I'm not sure why.

01:37:10.000 And some people were saying the same thing, but the overriding thing was you don't want to be against the country at this important time. 0.92

01:37:18.000 And that bullshit lasted for a decade where I'm sure a lot of terrible things happened that we don't even know about yet and might not know about for a while. 0.96

01:37:26.000 And only now are we starting to see like kind of the flowering of independent thought That probably would have happened 10 fucking years ago if it weren't for 9-11 and if it weren't for that crackdown. 0.99

01:37:35.000 Because we had the internet. 0.51

01:37:36.000 We were on the path.

01:37:37.000 And I feel like all this stuff now, podcasting, could have been in 2004.

01:37:41.000 It might have been, but the technology wasn't there yet.

01:37:44.000 As far as the ability to broadcast broadband wasn't there yet.

01:37:48.000 But just that movement of people speaking their minds would have started sooner.

01:37:52.000 And there was fear.

01:37:53.000 Like a lot of people were afraid and there were no fly lists.

01:37:55.000 That was a serious thing for a while. 0.99

01:37:57.000 People would say, oh, don't fuck around. 1.00

01:37:58.000 You're getting on the no-fly list. 1.00

01:38:00.000 It was abused.

01:38:01.000 I mean, it was abused by people that they were going after consenting journalism or dissenting journalists.

01:38:01.000 Yeah.

01:38:08.000 Yeah, Laura Poyatris, who did that New York Times story about William Benny, and she's done some other important stuff since then.

01:38:14.000 She claims that every time she goes to an airport, she gets the full thing because they want to show her.

01:38:20.000 We're keeping an eye on you.

01:38:22.000 Well, all they have to do is throw you on a list. 0.99

01:38:24.000 The people that are working there, giving her the frisking, I mean, they're not showing her shit. 0.99

01:38:29.000 Conveyor belt. 0.99

01:38:29.000 They're just working. 0.99

01:38:30.000 Yeah, they're making X amount per hour. 0.98

01:38:32.000 They're putting in their time, waiting for that buzzer to ring so they can get the fuck out of there. 0.97

01:38:35.000 But someone, all they had to do is put her on a list. 0.92

01:38:37.000 Yeah, that's that conveyor belt idea of like once the order has been given, then it's somebody just doing their job.

01:38:44.000 Yeah.

01:38:45.000 That's why so much bad stuff in the world is happening right now.

01:38:48.000 Like this is what I research all day.

01:38:50.000 I'm kind of obviously crazy, but the military.

01:38:53.000 I'm going to talk to you about that.

01:38:54.000 The military-industrial complex is clearly real.

01:38:57.000 It's a real thing.

01:38:58.000 It's an economic force where people get employed by companies that pay them way more than they should be paid for what they're doing.

01:39:05.000 So you get paid $200,000 to design the next drone.

01:39:09.000 Any other job at your age, you'd be lucky to make $40,000.

01:39:12.000 So you go into this new world where you don't really belong.

01:39:15.000 And this is what happened to Snowden from what it seems like.

01:39:18.000 This young guy gets into this world where he's making far more money than he would otherwise.

01:39:22.000 All you have to do is buy in.

01:39:24.000 All you have to do is, I can see this.

01:39:26.000 I can see spying on everybody constantly because it is keeping us safe.

01:39:29.000 And I'm making a lot of money.

01:39:30.000 And if you're the drone designer, I can see this.

01:39:34.000 So from your little perspective, it's not all that bad.

01:39:37.000 And you branch out, you zoom out far enough and you see that we're a society that is basically run by an avatar government that starts or at least provokes wars for its own benefit and for very cynical reasons that have nothing to do with what they tell us on TV.

01:39:51.000 And from there, you go, I can't stop the conveyor belt.

01:39:55.000 Nobody can.

01:39:56.000 You know, you can send out 10,000 retweets or a million petitions.

01:40:00.000 That does not stop the conveyor belt because at the end of the day, that person who's doing whatever they're doing, spying on you or frisking you, they're like, well, I'm not going to be unemployed.

01:40:10.000 Like, I understand what you're saying, Seaman, on the podcast.

01:40:13.000 And I understand what the EFF says.

01:40:17.000 I'm not going to sit at home without a paycheck.

01:40:19.000 I'd rather just be sifting through people's emails.

01:40:22.000 And obviously, most people make that choice.

01:40:23.000 That's a problem with human nature, I guess, is people need money to pay their rent.

01:40:28.000 And the only solution is to actually change that economic structure.

01:40:32.000 Like, bye-bye, military-industrial complex. 0.99

01:40:35.000 That's old paradigm shit. 0.99

01:40:36.000 Country-to-country warfare is over. 0.99

01:40:38.000 It's on its way out because we're starting to move toward a different kind of system.

01:40:42.000 And it's cool for me to watch because it's actually happening.

01:40:46.000 Like, what I'm talking about is not some thing out in the clouds.

01:40:48.000 It's already well underway.

01:40:51.000 Yeah, it's a strange time in that their ability to do what they're doing, their ability to spy on people, their ability to influence people, their ability to have control over the populace with these tools of surveillance is coinciding with people's ability to communicate their being upset about it.

01:41:13.000 This is a weird time because in the 60s and 70s, when all that Watergate shit was going down, what voice did a regular person have?

01:41:21.000 You would just hope that the Washington Post would publish an op-ed you agree with, and that's pretty much the extent of your power. 0.74

01:41:27.000 When Kennedy was assassinated, what happened?

01:41:31.000 How did the people get their thoughts?

01:41:32.000 Can you imagine if there was an Alex Jones back then with the real platform, how insane that would have been?

01:41:38.000 They would have killed him quick. 0.78

01:41:38.000 Oh, my God. 0.78

01:41:40.000 If Alex Jones lived in 1963, they would have killed the shit out of him. 0.99

01:41:44.000 Can you imagine? 0.97

01:41:45.000 There probably was about 20 Alex Jones at the time.

01:41:48.000 But what could they have done, though?

01:41:50.000 That's the point.

01:41:50.000 Like, Alex Jones has a radio show that he does on the internet.

01:41:54.000 He has YouTube videos, a giant YouTube channel.

01:41:56.000 He has a regular radio show.

01:41:58.000 I mean, what could a guy have done in 1963?

01:42:02.000 The answer is nothing.

01:42:03.000 Ham radio.

01:42:04.000 Yeah, but nobody's listening to that. 1.00

01:42:05.000 A couple other assholes. 1.00

01:42:07.000 I wonder if they did. 1.00

01:42:08.000 How many people do you think we're...

01:42:11.000 He'd be like, hey, you want to talk to somebody?

01:42:12.000 And you'd be like talking, like, oh, they're in Russia now.

01:42:15.000 Yeah, I knew one dude who did it, but that's it.

01:42:17.000 One.

01:42:17.000 I mean, it wasn't like it was like everybody had a radio in their house, right?

01:42:21.000 Growing up, basically everybody had a TV.

01:42:23.000 If you didn't have a TV, you were a weirdo.

01:42:25.000 Bobby just family doesn't believe in TV.

01:42:27.000 That's like people who don't have internet.

01:42:28.000 If somebody says they don't have internet, I'm like, I don't understand that at all.

01:42:32.000 Why would you do that?

01:42:33.000 Well, you know, I don't want to get caught up in it. 0.99

01:42:36.000 How about growing some fucking discipline? 0.99

01:42:38.000 How about joining the human race? 0.99

01:42:39.000 Like, if you don't have the internet, you don't know what's happening.

01:42:41.000 Oh, I don't know how to get online.

01:42:43.000 Oh, you don't? 1.00

01:42:44.000 Silly fuck. 1.00

01:42:47.000 This is the time to voice your opinions on things. 1.00

01:42:49.000 This is the time to speak up.

01:42:51.000 And it's the time to see that this old thing is luckily ending.

01:42:55.000 Like, I think some people are still caught up in the police brutality outrages that you see on the homepage of Reddit every day and that people are always tweeting.

01:43:04.000 That stuff's real, and I understand why people are pissed, and I 100% think it's the right move to shame the shit out of those people and always have that fire going.

01:43:13.000 But that's not the solution.

01:43:14.000 The solution is that economics are gradually shifting away from the military-industrial thing, and we're shifting into a different economic model.

01:43:23.000 And that will end this stuff.

01:43:25.000 Like the spying and the drones and the police brutality, that's what ends it because you just don't have as many cops.

01:43:30.000 And the cops you do have are more locally financed.

01:43:33.000 And it's kind of the way it was in some kind of madman utopia that probably never existed, but was a hell of a lot better than what we have right now.

01:43:42.000 Yeah.

01:43:43.000 What do you think is going to happen?

01:43:44.000 Do you think, is this a war right now where technology and the access that the average person has to information is at odds with this gigantic Neolithic group of corporations that are sort of combining forces to try to slow down the internet?

01:44:01.000 Is this a battle of good and evil? 0.97

01:44:04.000 fucking internet control, net neutrality, and regulations. 1.00

01:44:09.000 I want your ISP, you little fuck, give me your ISP number. 1.00

01:44:12.000 Whether it's just stopping this tide, this transition. 1.00

01:44:15.000 I don't even see it as good versus evil because then you fall into the outrage kind of thing.

01:44:21.000 I just look at the data, and that's what I've tried to do with as many aspects of my life as possible.

01:44:27.000 Emotion is fine, because after you see the data, you get emotional.

01:44:30.000 That's 100% fine, but you shouldn't be deriving your conclusion from the emotion.

01:44:34.000 And what I see is that a lot of this stuff is going to end just essentially by design.

01:44:41.000 By design, meaning that as innovation increases, people are not going to tolerate it anymore.

01:44:46.000 It'll be a lot more difficult.

01:44:47.000 Better technologies take off.

01:44:49.000 I mean, the reason why we're having this conversation is not because some Ben Franklin was like, within 200-something years, we will have podcasts.

01:44:57.000 It's because gradual technological innovation comes along.

01:45:00.000 And it took probably a million things before this to get to this point.

01:45:03.000 And now that you're here, it doesn't take you any more effort to put out a podcast because it's all built.

01:45:09.000 And it's the same thing with, if you look at the development of travel, people used to get around by foot.

01:45:15.000 Then it was carriages, like Oregon Trail type shit, where if you had to go from New York to California, you might not make it.

01:45:21.000 Now it's a flight that costs $250 and takes like five hours. 0.94

01:45:25.000 And the same thing is happening with the economy, where we're getting away from old, kind of superstitious technology and entering the age of science.

01:45:35.000 Like science is now being applied to economics and to money, and that's going to change some of the worst aspects of society.

01:45:43.000 For sure?

01:45:44.000 For sure.

01:45:45.000 Like of anything I've researched, this is the one I'm most convinced will not come true, but is already happening around us.

01:45:51.000 What makes you so positive that it's going to happen?

01:45:54.000 Again, because it already is.

01:45:55.000 It's just in the early phases.

01:45:56.000 Like if you look at the B word, you look at Bitcoin as an H. Did you just call it the B word?

01:46:02.000 Yeah.

01:46:02.000 Because I was debating whether to even talk about Bitcoin this time because people get so into it.

01:46:08.000 It's because it's money.

01:46:09.000 People get emotional about money.

01:46:11.000 Do you get into it in a negative way, you mean?

01:46:13.000 No, just I don't want to be known as the Bitcoin person because that's not the totality of me, right?

01:46:20.000 I don't think you should worry about that.

01:46:21.000 Okay, well, you're not going to be the BitPoint.

01:46:23.000 All right, good.

01:46:23.000 I just don't want, because a couple people have said, like, you're a great advocate for Bitcoin.

01:46:26.000 I'm like, I'm not trying to be.

01:46:27.000 Like, I'm trying to report on an important shift in society, which, so anyway, Bitcoin is worth $8 billion.

01:46:34.000 Is it really?

01:46:35.000 Four years, yeah, four years ago, it was worth nothing.

01:46:38.000 Like, one guy traded 10,000 Bitcoins on a discussion forum in exchange for somebody to order him a pizza and pay for it.

01:46:45.000 And now those 10,000 Bitcoins are worth like 6 point something million.

01:46:50.000 So something is happening in society.

01:46:53.000 Something's happening in society where we're saying like, oh, we can create money without governments doing it for us.

01:46:58.000 And that's a very simple shift.

01:47:00.000 It's not a big deal.

01:47:01.000 People have already accepted it or else Bitcoin wouldn't be around.

01:47:04.000 And if you take that little choice out to its logical conclusion, it's going to be a drastically different world in 10, 20, 30 years.

01:47:14.000 It's going to be a different world in two years.

01:47:16.000 No doubt about it.

01:47:17.000 I mean, I think that we're seeing this now where people are starting to get paid in Bitcoin.

01:47:22.000 Like, who did, there was a story recently about someone getting paid in Bitcoin.

01:47:26.000 Well, John Fitch got paid in Nautilus Coin, which is an altcoin.

01:47:33.000 And he got paid in that for his last fight, right?

01:47:34.000 Yeah, Nautilus Coin.

01:47:36.000 He got paid, I think it was $20,000 Nautilus Coin, and then some people contributed on top of that.

01:47:41.000 And it ended up on NBC.

01:47:41.000 Wow.

01:47:43.000 Like this weekend's fight, he was wearing boxers that had their logo all over it.

01:47:47.000 And that was done completely over the internet.

01:47:50.000 I watched the deal go down on Twitter because he and Brian Kelly interacted publicly.

01:47:54.000 And that's pretty cool because if you think about like what do we use money for, one of the things is sponsoring events.

01:48:01.000 Like banks own stadiums.

01:48:02.000 That's going to change.

01:48:03.000 It's going to be Bitcoin Stadium and DoggyCoin, whatever.

01:48:09.000 Is it Dogecoin or DoggyCoin?

01:48:11.000 I've tried both and I get called out either way.

01:48:15.000 I prefer to say Dogecoin because it sounds a little bit more sophisticated.

01:48:18.000 Than Doggy Coin.

01:48:19.000 Yeah.

01:48:20.000 What does it stand for? 1.00

01:48:22.000 It's an internet meme, that dog with the stupid face, the Shiba, whatever that breed is. 1.00

01:48:28.000 So famous. 1.00

01:48:28.000 Shibu Inu? 1.00

01:48:30.000 Yeah.

01:48:31.000 Is that a Shibu Inu?

01:48:32.000 Yeah, he's got the meme.

01:48:33.000 You just put so in front of anything you want to say, basically.

01:48:35.000 Like, so rich, so wow, you know, such low.

01:48:39.000 So that's where Dogecoin came from?

01:48:40.000 Yeah, it emerged as a novelty coin and then got so much transaction volume that people started, some people started to take it seriously.

01:48:48.000 It's so strange when something like that happens, isn't it?

01:48:51.000 It's like, what makes a Bitcoin just take off?

01:48:54.000 Other than the great design.

01:48:56.000 But what makes a Bitcoin?

01:48:57.000 What makes a Dogecoin?

01:48:59.000 What makes it so exciting about Bitcoin?

01:49:01.000 That's what it is human psychology.

01:49:03.000 Like, that's the reason why the $50 bill in your pocket is a $50 bill and not a sheet of paper.

01:49:08.000 It's purely psychology.

01:49:09.000 You see the pyramid on the back.

01:49:11.000 You see the dude on the front.

01:49:12.000 That's money to you.

01:49:13.000 Totally.

01:49:14.000 Enough people around the world have said that, you know, Bitcoin and even some people have said that Dogecoin.

01:49:20.000 This is money to me.

01:49:20.000 They're like, you know what?

01:49:21.000 I understand that it took somebody time to make and that it can't be counterfeit.

01:49:25.000 Those are really the two biggest properties of any of these coins is they're hard to make and you can't counterfeit them, period.

01:49:33.000 So when you get that thing going, you trade it back and forth over time.

01:49:37.000 Some people lose their password.

01:49:38.000 So over time, the amount is reducing.

01:49:40.000 I'm talking about Bitcoin, not Dogecoin, because there are too many Dogecoins.

01:49:43.000 But Bitcoin, you're using it constantly.

01:49:46.000 So the amount is being reduced over time just through usage.

01:49:49.000 But unlike a government currency where people know that more money will be printed, this is the opposite.

01:49:56.000 We know that only so much is going to be printed over time, and then that's it ever.

01:50:00.000 So fascinating.

01:50:01.000 And so what might happen is some kind of weird feeding frenzy where everybody gets into it at once because increasing values create one of the strongest network effects that we know of as people.

01:50:10.000 Like you think about how fast Facebook took off.

01:50:14.000 That was just people like, oh, it's cool that I can casually spy on my friends that I'm in class with.

01:50:19.000 This is, oh, I now have complete control over my own money and it's appreciating, you know, at a certain rate that beats anything that a traditional bank can offer.

01:50:28.000 The problem is that these things come and go So frequently, that people don't want to dip their fingers or their feet in the water thinking that it might be the next AOL.

01:50:36.000 You know, it might be the first one.

01:50:36.000 Right.

01:50:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:38.000 Maybe the first one, and then they really get it locked down. 0.97

01:50:40.000 We all agree to a Elda coin or whatever the fuck we're going to call it. 0.63

01:50:45.000 You know, five years from now or two years from now. 0.93

01:50:45.000 Yeah. 0.93

01:50:47.000 I'm going to share my strategy, and I absolutely do not want anybody to think that this is what you should do.

01:50:53.000 This is just what I've done so people can understand.

01:50:56.000 This is what I believe is a good thing to do for me, not for anybody else.

01:51:00.000 I agree with you 100%.

01:51:02.000 I'm only convinced that this currency thing will take off. 1.00

01:51:05.000 I'm not even 100% convinced that Bitcoin will make it because the Bitcoin Foundation has been doing some really stupid, fucked up things. 0.99

01:51:12.000 Really? 0.99

01:51:12.000 Like what? 0.99

01:51:13.000 Well, they appointed a guy who has a really checkered past, and I feel like should not have been a part of that organization.

01:51:21.000 But do you mind saying, like, what is his checkered past?

01:51:25.000 Like, when you say checkered past.

01:51:27.000 You can Google it.

01:51:28.000 It's too serious that I don't even want to say it, but it's bad allegations.

01:51:33.000 Violent stuff?

01:51:34.000 Like molestation type stuff.

01:51:38.000 And I think if you Google this, it might be public.

01:51:42.000 It doesn't really matter.

01:51:44.000 It might be now.

01:51:47.000 Anyway, the point is that foundation I feel like has made some bad moves.

01:51:51.000 And aside from that, it's the first one.

01:51:54.000 So if you look at like CompuServe, they probably won a lot of battles. 0.95

01:51:58.000 We're not using fucking CompuServe to connect to the internet. 0.85

01:52:00.000 So I'm only convinced that the technology will win, not that Bitcoin will win. 0.98

01:52:04.000 So what I do is I own a little bit of Bitcoin.

01:52:06.000 And again, I'm not rich, so this is like reasonable person money.

01:52:09.000 I own a little bit of Bitcoin, and I also own a little bit of the three or four currencies after Bitcoin that show the most promise.

01:52:15.000 And I own enough of each one that should they come in and become the next Bitcoin or the next Litecoin, I'll be really satisfied.

01:52:22.000 But if they don't come in, it's not the end of the world.

01:52:25.000 And what I'm doing is when one currency doesn't do anything new for two months or something better comes out, I shift the money into that one.

01:52:32.000 So my idea is however long this process takes of us going digital to new kinds of money, which is happening, I'll be in at least one of the ones that does well.

01:52:42.000 And we'll just try to keep, I think at this point, there are already mature brands that will take off.

01:52:46.000 Do you ever see a point where, you know how you go to the airport and you see the government currency exchange where it's like Australian dollars, Mexican pesos, and it has all the thing, like what the rates are, you know, those things they have at the airport where you can exchange your money.

01:53:00.000 Do you ever think it's going to come a point where there's so many accepted currencies that we have that on everything?

01:53:05.000 Like this is what every price is, like it's worth this much of that.

01:53:08.000 And it's a fluctuating thing.

01:53:10.000 It's on a, like a, like, you know, some sort of a stock market, sort of a ticker tape type of thing where it fluctuates, because it does fluctuate on a daily basis.

01:53:18.000 I have some Bitcoin.

01:53:19.000 It's interesting to watch it go up and down.

01:53:21.000 Sometimes it's a big jump and sometimes it's a big drop.

01:53:25.000 What you just mentioned already exists, basically.

01:53:27.000 Like the alt market will blow your mind.

01:53:29.000 If you go on, you can bring up.

01:53:33.000 It'll blow the mind as far as your ability to purchase things?

01:53:36.000 No, just how many currencies are trading against each other.

01:53:38.000 It really is exactly like that foreign exchange board at the airport, except way more complex.

01:53:43.000 If you go on Mint Pal, there are a range of currencies that you probably and I have not even heard of.

01:53:49.000 And they're trading against Bitcoin and in some cases trading against other currencies.

01:53:49.000 Wow.

01:53:53.000 Like there are currencies now that don't even really trade against Bitcoin because they're like two steps removed from that.

01:54:00.000 How would it be possible that all these could exist and you could purchase items from it with them rather?

01:54:06.000 Like say if you wanted to get a case of this delicious C2O coconut oil.

01:54:10.000 This is not a paid sponsor.

01:54:11.000 This is not a plug.

01:54:12.000 This is not like an unfair plug that I put in there.

01:54:14.000 But if you wanted to buy a case of this, and would they have to have like a bunch of different, like it's worth two Dogecoins.

01:54:21.000 It's worth 1.9 Bitcoin.

01:54:23.000 It'd be a program.

01:54:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:24.000 Could you have a currency exchange program?

01:54:27.000 It would be a currency exchange program.

01:54:29.000 So it'd probably one program that just kind of did all the math for it.

01:54:32.000 Right, like an app.

01:54:33.000 So you would have to, everybody that works in a store, like you'd have to run a price.

01:54:38.000 Well, what's interesting is since this is software and not government-issued currencies, this stuff can happen instantly.

01:54:45.000 You don't need to be like, oh, we need to check in with the government of Argentina and make sure they're cool with this.

01:54:49.000 It just happens immediately.

01:54:50.000 So there are already services being built that are pretty much what you're thinking of.

01:54:54.000 Like they want to work on universal wallets where you don't have to think about what currency you're sending.

01:54:58.000 You're just sending somebody value.

01:54:59.000 So if I want to send you $10 worth of internet value, I could do it.

01:55:03.000 I don't have to even know what currency it is as long as it's a mutually agreed amount of money.

01:55:08.000 Right.

01:55:09.000 It could be a mutually agreed upon number.

01:55:11.000 Like instead of saying this is 100 bitcoins, it could just be this is 100.

01:55:15.000 Well, 100 in Bitcoin is 98.

01:55:18.000 100 in Dogecoin is 101.

01:55:20.000 You know what I mean?

01:55:20.000 Like whatever the number is, the value number, you enter it into an app and it'll read out what it is in whatever currency you choose to use.

01:55:27.000 And since it's all going to be done online and it's all sort of, you know, in hard drives and in space, you could kind of like have as many of them as you wanted. 1.00

01:55:37.000 It's not like if you had a cash register and you're at a store and some asshole comes in with Canadian money and he wants Australian change, you're like, bitch, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:55:45.000 You're crazy. 1.00

01:55:46.000 I don't have Australian money. 0.96

01:55:47.000 But if you are digitally connected and you service 20 major coin, you know, whatever you would call them, programs, what would you call them?

01:55:58.000 People call them currencies.

01:56:00.000 I think actually, I mean, it's more software than currency, but everybody calls it a currency.

01:56:04.000 And if you look at Hollywood Boulevard, they have some of those foreign exchange stands also.

01:56:09.000 There are a couple of stores you walk in, you trade your, if you're a Chinese tourist, you trade your won for U.S. dollars, then you can shop at, you know, the shops there.

01:56:18.000 That step is going to go away, not just on Hollywood Boulevard, all over the world.

01:56:22.000 Think about how cool that is, that now you can travel to any country, walk into their malls, and just pay with a mutually agreed upon currency.

01:56:29.000 It seems inevitable, doesn't it?

01:56:30.000 sort of like we looked at the internet in 1993, is like, wow, this is kind of a cool thing that you're...

01:56:37.000 It was the internet because it was going through the line, the phone line.

01:56:40.000 It was just a shitty version of the TV that couldn't play movies.

01:56:43.000 And that's what's happening now. 0.97

01:56:44.000 Some of these people are weirdos. 0.99

01:56:45.000 Some of this stuff, you're like, Dogecoin, what the fuck is this? 0.96

01:56:48.000 But out of that, you're starting to see the very beginnings of one of the companies I've been covering is a company that does this legitimately as a product.

01:56:58.000 They have, I think, 16 or 17 employees, And they build currencies.

01:57:02.000 They build currencies.

01:57:02.000 That's what they do.

01:57:03.000 And if they haven't built it, they find ones that are taking off and support them and mine them and make money off of them.

01:57:10.000 And so you're starting to see like a more professional kind of environment where there's still a lot of experimentation, but it's starting to be like this is serious business.

01:57:19.000 And I think it was Citibank said that digital currency by 2020 is going to be like a $10 trillion industry or something insane.

01:57:26.000 And we got to get from here to there.

01:57:28.000 And we're already at the year 2014.

01:57:30.000 So a lot of money gets made over the next six years.

01:57:33.000 A lot of money gets lost.

01:57:35.000 And a lot of new stuff gets created that we can't even think of yet.

01:57:39.000 I totally could see it.

01:57:40.000 I totally could see it.

01:57:42.000 It seems like the people that are all hedging their bets now, it's almost like they know something's going to happen.

01:57:48.000 Like they see this bubbling on the surface, like a volcano is about to erupt, but they can't figure out which, where's the mainstream going to come out of?

01:57:54.000 Is it going to be here?

01:57:55.000 Is it going to be here?

01:57:56.000 This is the next internet.

01:57:58.000 This is the next thing.

01:57:59.000 It absolutely is. 1.00

01:58:00.000 It's going to be fucked. 1.00

01:58:03.000 I think by now, people who listen to your show sort of know my track record. 1.00

01:58:06.000 I wasn't wrong about drones.

01:58:07.000 I wasn't wrong about the NSA, really.

01:58:09.000 And this one. 1.00

01:58:10.000 You're on about a lot of shit. 1.00

01:58:12.000 This is going to be big. 1.00

01:58:13.000 And it's what's called a black swan event.

01:58:16.000 And people aren't familiar.

01:58:17.000 Black Swan event is the thing like the financial crisis in 08 that takes everybody by surprise and changes everything.

01:58:23.000 And this is the same deal.

01:58:24.000 It's like now we have an airplane before we didn't.

01:58:26.000 What do we do with this airplane?

01:58:27.000 Oh, let's start.

01:58:28.000 Let's try to fly to London.

01:58:30.000 And before you know it, you have commercial airflight.

01:58:32.000 That's what's going to happen here is people are experimenting.

01:58:34.000 And before you know it, there's no more Euro dollar.

01:58:36.000 There's just Bitcoin and whatever else we agree as a people, as a species, is money.

01:58:41.000 And here's where it gets really cool.

01:58:43.000 And then I'll shut up about this.

01:58:44.000 But somebody on the Reddit Bitcoin category, their subreddit, posted this thing about how if you really think about what's happening, people are making money from these coins because they have to mine them, which takes energy.

01:59:01.000 Your utility bill goes up when you're mining these coins.

01:59:04.000 You notice the difference.

01:59:05.000 And so what people are doing, regardless of language, is deciding that I can transfer some of my energy for money, for actual money that I can use to buy anything else in this physical world.

01:59:16.000 So now you have a globally competitive market for energy that'll be created as a result.

01:59:22.000 You'll have entrepreneurs who aren't interested in creating coins.

01:59:26.000 They're interested in how do I get energy as cheaply as possible.

01:59:29.000 So you'll see solar fields in the deserts in Africa maybe to fuel a mine for a cryptocurrency.

01:59:37.000 So what it's going to do is incentivize a lot of us to find cheaper energy no matter what.

01:59:42.000 So you're going to see all this innovation where the energy industry has to get cheaper and cheaper because we have to continue mining these currencies. 1.00

01:59:49.000 Fuck. 0.99

01:59:49.000 Which is pretty crazy to think about. 0.99

01:59:51.000 So it's a technology that by design is going to make us, I'm using all these bullshit terms, like better, but we're going to care more about cheap energy than we do now, which I see as a good thing.

02:00:00.000 And we're going to care more about what does my purchasing power mean?

02:00:03.000 Did I really agree that this has value?

02:00:06.000 That's what's so cool about all this stuff is that nobody's forcing anybody to do anything.

02:00:09.000 It's all voluntary.

02:00:10.000 And it's all happening while marijuana is becoming illegal or becoming legal, rather.

02:00:14.000 It's all happening while marijuana is legal in Colorado.

02:00:17.000 I just tweeted something today about the statistics from Colorado that they're getting back from, as far as crime and revenue, more revenue than ever before, more revenue than even projected, and less crime.

02:00:30.000 Yep, because you were locking up poor tourists and college kids, and now it's no longer a crime, so you're making money off of them.

02:00:36.000 Shitloads of money.

02:00:37.000 And New York legalized it. 0.99

02:00:39.000 Brian, can you talk about this?

02:00:39.000 Because I got a piece.

02:00:40.000 Yeah, New York today legalized medical marijuana.

02:00:44.000 It's become the latest state to permit this use Monday.

02:00:49.000 That's sad.

02:00:50.000 Hey, I found that video, though, that you were talking about earlier about you come at me, bro.

02:00:55.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:56.000 It's Do You Even Lift, Bro?

02:00:58.000 Is that the one?

02:00:59.000 Yeah, Even Lift, Bro.

02:01:01.000 It looked funny.

02:01:03.000 Let's see what this is.

02:01:06.000 But I don't know the medical marijuana thing, though, in New York is, I don't think it's like legit medical marijuana.

02:01:12.000 It's probably not going to be like the California.

02:01:14.000 Right.

02:01:15.000 I just got my license renewed yesterday, and it was the first time where it actually was a little bit harder than normal.

02:01:22.000 And I don't know if it was just the doctor, because the doctor was like this old doctor, and you walk in, and he goes, all right, why do you need medical marijuana?

02:01:29.000 I used to be able to just say, it eases me with stress.

02:01:33.000 It helps me go to sleep at night.

02:01:36.000 It helps me eat.

02:01:37.000 And what's funny is those things are true.

02:01:38.000 Like, you would probably be taking Xanax or a sleeping pill if you weren't using weeds.

02:01:43.000 Exactly.

02:01:44.000 When people say, like, oh, I'm a medical marijuana patient, like, it actually is medicine.

02:01:47.000 Right.

02:01:48.000 But he came at me like, that's not a medical reason.

02:01:51.000 And I'm like, well, I use it to sleep.

02:01:53.000 That's not a medical reason.

02:01:54.000 I get it for stress.

02:01:55.000 That's not a medical reason.

02:01:57.000 Then I finally said headache.

02:01:58.000 He goes, all right, that's a medical reason.

02:02:00.000 And then he like signed a paper.

02:02:02.000 But my friend that I was with.

02:02:03.000 This guy sounds like the Gran Torino of this.

02:02:06.000 Yeah, it was weird.

02:02:07.000 Why would you go to that guy?

02:02:07.000 Why would you do that?

02:02:08.000 Go to Eidelman.

02:02:09.000 Why would you go anywhere else?

02:02:10.000 A lot of money. 1.00

02:02:11.000 Jesus Christ, you're cheap, bitch. 1.00

02:02:13.000 He's, you know, he went to jail, though. 1.00

02:02:16.000 He gets my props because he went to jail.

02:02:18.000 He was like one of the pioneers.

02:02:19.000 Yeah, but 200 20 versus 200.

02:02:22.000 It's less than that, but I know what you're saying. 0.98

02:02:25.000 But that's what you get, you get some fucking I'm not scared. 0.98

02:02:28.000 If I'm going to jail for a joint, then... 0.98

02:02:32.000 It's been decriminalized in California for a long time.

02:02:34.000 I know.

02:02:34.000 Arnold Schwarzenegger decriminalized it.

02:02:36.000 The worst you can get is like a ticket.

02:02:38.000 You get like a ticket if they catch you smoking it.

02:02:40.000 When was the last time you heard of anything?

02:02:42.000 You're right to point out the legalization thing because that's happening simultaneously and is every bit as important.

02:02:47.000 Yes, because it's creating entrepreneurs and creating revenue by people that smoke pot. 0.99

02:02:51.000 It's a completely different ethic.

02:02:53.000 And even Amber Lyon, our mutual friend, has committed pretty much her professional time right now to promoting this idea of medical uses for psychedelics, which was recently in Slate.

02:03:07.000 It seems like the whole kind of mainstream consciousness is coming around to this idea that, well, shit, if it works, and we're starting to have that attitude towards everything.

02:03:14.000 Bitcoin sounds crazy, but if it works and the fees are lower, why not? 0.91

02:03:18.000 And it's the same with this.

02:03:20.000 If people can be more relaxed and maybe have some personal insights, why not?

02:03:24.000 We should give out Amber's websites, reset.me, reset.me, and it's a new website that she created entirely Based on the idea of resetting consciousness through psychedelics and all the latest research and news on psychedelics.

02:03:36.000 She wants it to be like the Huffington Post for psychedelics.

02:03:40.000 She went hog wild. 1.00

02:03:42.000 I found that. 1.00

02:03:43.000 That bitch went full-on hog. 1.00

02:03:44.000 She went full hog. 1.00

02:03:45.000 She found that video that he was talking about earlier: that do you even lift bro?

02:03:50.000 Okay, hold on a second.

02:03:51.000 I want to talk about Amber because this new website is very important for her.

02:03:57.000 She kind of was really, she talked about it on the podcast.

02:04:00.000 She was really down the dumps and very bummed out about her situation, leaving CNN and decided to just take a trip down to the jungle and went to the.

02:04:10.000 She was working in the factory and finally saw how the sausage was made.

02:04:13.000 Exactly. 0.99

02:04:14.000 And for, I mean, I used to, I still consider myself a journalist, and it is a depressing moment when you realize like, this is fucked. 0.97

02:04:20.000 Yeah, but you don't work for anybody, do you? 0.98

02:04:21.000 No, I don't work for anybody.

02:04:22.000 That's the best kind of journalist.

02:04:23.000 You know?

02:04:24.000 I mean, the best kind of journalist is the kind of journalist that just saw that from within CNN.

02:04:29.000 I just see that from outside. 0.89

02:04:30.000 I'm like oh these people are all fucked up but she got to see that from the inside Well, fascinating, but also depressing, because how hard do you have to work to get to CNN? 0.98

02:04:39.000 Yeah, very hard. 0.99

02:04:40.000 I mean, look, and if they find out you're not playing ball, a lot of people have these idealized visions of what they're going to be able to accomplish as a journalist.

02:04:47.000 You know, I'm going to be the next guy who breaks the big story, the next girl who takes down the evil regime.

02:04:52.000 And then you get over and you film the evil regime and you have all this evidence and you risk your life and it gets really crazy and hairy.

02:04:58.000 And you get back to the States and they put out an info piece, like an infotainment, infomercial piece on the city.

02:05:04.000 And you're like, whoa, how come you didn't have the sniper footage?

02:05:06.000 Where's the sniper footage?

02:05:07.000 Where's the people dying?

02:05:08.000 Where's the, like, what are you guys doing here?

02:05:10.000 What's going on here?

02:05:11.000 You just made a fluff piece.

02:05:13.000 We have the best Starbucks of anywhere in the Middle East.

02:05:17.000 Her news site is great, though.

02:05:18.000 She spent a lot of time on it and a lot of effort.

02:05:21.000 So just to check it out for something that's interesting, go to reset.me.

02:05:26.000 Lots of cool stuff on there, too.

02:05:28.000 Like I said, she wants it to be the Huffington Post of Psychedelics.

02:05:33.000 So what were you saying about the Do You Lift Bro?

02:05:36.000 Just from that video that we had brought up earlier that we were going to talk about.

02:05:40.000 He does pranking, I guess.

02:05:43.000 With big giant people, ask them if they lift.

02:05:45.000 I don't know why it is.

02:05:46.000 Is this old or new?

02:05:48.000 It's like a year or two old.

02:05:49.000 Surprised you guys haven't seen it.

02:05:51.000 But he does new stuff.

02:05:52.000 This is him.

02:05:53.000 He's going up to my world why I want to take a picture of my arm.

02:05:56.000 Because it's the skinniest thing I've ever seen in my life.

02:05:58.000 Bro, you got to start lifting, man.

02:06:00.000 You're getting yourself into a heap of hurt, my friend.

02:06:04.000 What is that supposed to mean?

02:06:04.000 You're about to get yourself into a world of help, my friend.

02:06:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:06:08.000 Really?

02:06:09.000 Lift up your glasses.

02:06:09.000 Yeah.

02:06:12.000 Oh, yeah?

02:06:13.000 Uh-oh.

02:06:17.000 What are you doing? 1.00

02:06:18.000 You're calling me out in the middle of the fucking... 1.00

02:06:22.000 You're calling me out for being small in the middle of the fucking courtyard here. 1.00

02:06:26.000 You do it. 1.00

02:06:26.000 I am? 1.00

02:06:27.000 What do you mean, what am I doing? 1.00

02:06:29.000 You must be looking to get punched in the face. 0.99

02:06:31.000 Well, if you punch me, I'm gonna go. 1.00

02:06:34.000 Which cheek?

02:06:37.000 Yo, do you guys need a number of the gym?

02:06:40.000 You sure?

02:06:40.000 Good.

02:06:41.000 I was just looking at you guys need to start lifting.

02:06:41.000 Yeah.

02:06:44.000 I bet you if we go in the gym, I'll lift you. 0.90

02:06:46.000 Are you sure about that?

02:06:47.000 Guaranteed.

02:06:48.000 Let's do it.

02:06:48.000 Let's go.

02:06:49.000 Let's do it.

02:06:51.000 I gotta get on the bike, too.

02:06:52.000 Mike got a black five. 1.00

02:06:54.000 I'm pushing this motherfucker. 1.00

02:06:55.000 You pushing? 1.00

02:06:56.000 I'm pushing.

02:06:57.000 No, well, if you can lift, you better put it over your shoulder and walk with it.

02:07:01.000 Easy work.

02:07:02.000 Alright, let's go.

02:07:03.000 This one that you see all that.

02:07:03.000 Light bike.

02:07:07.000 185?

02:07:08.000 185 for what?

02:07:09.000 What do you want to do with it?

02:07:10.000 Press.

02:07:12.000 How many times do you want to do it?

02:07:14.000 Five.

02:07:16.000 Is it?

02:07:16.000 That's it.

02:07:17.000 I was expecting a number somewhere around 30. 0.99

02:07:19.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:07:20.000 No, man. 1.00

02:07:21.000 I play college football.

02:07:22.000 I'm trying to go to the league.

02:07:23.000 I put up 225 at least 15 times right now.

02:07:27.000 What you want to do?

02:07:27.000 Awesome, bro.

02:07:28.000 Well, I'm telling you.

02:07:29.000 You got way less than you do, too.

02:07:30.000 I say, let's go, but it's not going.

02:07:34.000 I'm going to make some money.

02:07:35.000 I'll be back.

02:07:36.000 I'll make some money.

02:07:37.000 What's up, bro?

02:07:38.000 Do you even lift?

02:07:39.000 What?

02:07:39.000 Do you even lift, bro?

02:07:40.000 Yeah.

02:07:41.000 Oh, you look on that skinnelicious man.

02:07:42.000 You're the girl's bigger than you.

02:07:44.000 Better start lifting.

02:07:47.000 That guy's pretty cool, bro.

02:07:48.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 Yeah.

02:07:49.000 Excuse me?

02:07:50.000 Oh, was this?

02:07:51.000 Alright.

02:07:51.000 Do you even lift?

02:07:53.000 Yeah.

02:07:53.000 Do I lift?

02:07:54.000 So that's where this Do you even lift, bro, meme comes from?

02:07:58.000 Okay, now I get it. 0.94

02:08:01.000 I just thought it was people being silly online.

02:08:03.000 I didn't know that there was a video that it originated from.

02:08:06.000 That makes sense.

02:08:07.000 With a what?

02:08:07.000 SpongeBob Squaresman.

02:08:09.000 That's true.

02:08:10.000 SpongeBob Squares. 0.99

02:08:11.000 What are you saying I got shit on the floor? 0.99

02:08:12.000 What do you mean? 0.99

02:08:13.000 What are you saying?

02:08:14.000 Try to look like a big shot, so.

02:08:15.000 What do you mean I try to look like a big shot?

02:08:17.000 What are you talking about?

02:08:18.000 You just walk into my car.

02:08:19.000 You're the one trying to look like a big shot.

02:08:22.000 That guy's lucky he didn't get beat up.

02:08:23.000 I know.

02:08:24.000 Why do people think that's funny?

02:08:26.000 It is kind of funny.

02:08:26.000 Do you even lift, bro?

02:08:27.000 It's a funny thing to say to people, but man, this guy's getting close to getting fucked up on a regular basis. 0.98

02:08:32.000 That's what people like, I think, is that I don't get hit. 0.98

02:08:35.000 I think it's real.

02:08:36.000 I don't think he stages these beforehand.

02:08:39.000 And I just think it's fun to watch people do uncomfortable things.

02:08:43.000 Yeah.

02:08:44.000 Oh, that guy just reached out his hand.

02:08:46.000 Yeah, wow, that's interesting.

02:08:48.000 Well, this is one of the things we're talking about with the Opi and Anthony thing, like how different people handle different situations.

02:08:56.000 Look how differently people handled him.

02:08:59.000 The guy who shook his hand, that'd probably be me.

02:09:01.000 If somebody said, why don't you lift?

02:09:02.000 He'd be like, whatever.

02:09:05.000 But isn't it interesting how different people handle different situations in a completely different thing?

02:09:11.000 And you could be different every day.

02:09:13.000 The way you handle one situation, like if that guy came up to you today or if that guy came up to you immediately after the DMV, four hours of the day. 0.96

02:09:21.000 Anything fucked up. 0.88

02:09:23.000 Anything wrong. 1.00

02:09:24.000 Fight with a girl. 1.00

02:09:25.000 Fight with a guy.

02:09:26.000 Fight with a mom. 0.91

02:09:27.000 Fight with a dad.

02:09:28.000 Fight with a boss.

02:09:29.000 Whatever it is. 1.00

02:09:30.000 Traffic, bullshit, flat tire. 1.00

02:09:32.000 Someone stole your laptop. 1.00

02:09:33.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:09:34.000 I don't lift. 1.00

02:09:34.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:09:35.000 Fucking asshole. 1.00

02:09:37.000 You know? 1.00

02:09:38.000 It depends entirely on where you're at.

02:09:40.000 That is a problem with human beings.

02:09:42.000 We're not ready. 1.00

02:09:44.000 Somebody beat his ass? 1.00

02:09:45.000 This guy gets it. 1.00

02:09:46.000 You're going to hit me? 0.91

02:09:47.000 If you say it again, I will. 0.95

02:09:48.000 Oh, yeah?

02:09:49.000 Yeah.

02:09:50.000 You want to get a battery charge?

02:09:50.000 Really?

02:09:52.000 Do it again.

02:09:53.000 Well, do what?

02:09:53.000 How dare you?

02:09:54.000 Say it again.

02:09:55.000 Say what again?

02:09:56.000 Say it again. 0.88

02:09:56.000 I poop my pants. 0.88

02:09:57.000 I'm sorry.

02:09:58.000 That's what I thought.

02:09:59.000 You guys even lift.

02:10:01.000 Small chicken legs.

02:10:04.000 Call the guy a chicken leg.

02:10:06.000 I'm using your reaction.

02:10:07.000 All right.

02:10:07.000 Thanks, bro.

02:10:07.000 All right.

02:10:08.000 That was good.

02:10:09.000 Are you being pranked?

02:10:09.000 That's cool.

02:10:10.000 This is the even lift prank.

02:10:13.000 Is that cool for using your reaction?

02:10:15.000 Your reaction was priceless, bro.

02:10:16.000 Thanks, bro.

02:10:17.000 Awesome.

02:10:19.000 That's actually kind of fun.

02:10:21.000 I'm glad he does that, at least. 0.98

02:10:22.000 I love how much I love how much shit you can do to somebody as long as afterwards, like, hey man, this is going on YouTube. 1.00

02:10:27.000 Yeah, people are like, I'm going to be famous as fuck for telling you I'm going to kick your ass. 1.00

02:10:32.000 Silly. 1.00

02:10:33.000 But you can get in trouble, man. 1.00

02:10:35.000 People don't know they're being pranked. 1.00

02:10:36.000 They might fucking hit you. 1.00

02:10:38.000 They might hit you because you seem crazy. 1.00

02:10:40.000 Seem like a crazy person. 1.00

02:10:42.000 Coming up to them, starting shit for no reason. 1.00

02:10:44.000 They don't know you. 1.00

02:10:45.000 You might be nuts, man. 0.99

02:10:46.000 And it might make it worse that you're videotaping him. 0.99

02:10:48.000 Look at all these videos that we've been showing lately.

02:10:50.000 People just freak out when they're getting videotaped. 0.99

02:10:52.000 They don't give a shit if it's a joke or not. 0.99

02:10:54.000 Well, that chick that was hitting that dude, if he's telling the truth. 1.00

02:10:57.000 Oh, he fucking. 0.99

02:10:58.000 By the way, Jamie just showed me on Gawker right now, there's a whole story where they interviewed him, the guy, and he's completely wrote it out exactly what happened, what happened after. 0.99

02:11:09.000 He thought he was still recording, but when she hit his camera, it turned it off, and he thought he was still recording.

02:11:15.000 It scratched it also.

02:11:16.000 And then they said that they were going to go call Pat, and Pat was going to take care of all this.

02:11:21.000 And so they went to the car.

02:11:22.000 And so he was like, what the hell?

02:11:24.000 And so he sent his girlfriend, who was back at the house.

02:11:27.000 I guess he was gone for like an hour, sent a video, and they called the police and everything, but they were gone.

02:11:33.000 But yeah, it's written all out, though.

02:11:35.000 He sent his girlfriend the video?

02:11:36.000 Yeah, well. 1.00

02:11:37.000 So just in case if they took his phone, like that kind of shit? 0.99

02:11:39.000 Well, he just wanted to show, like, look what happened. 0.99

02:11:41.000 Like, look what's going on right now.

02:11:43.000 Wow.

02:11:44.000 What a strange world we live in.

02:11:44.000 Yeah.

02:11:46.000 When you send a video over their phone through the cellular network, isn't it shitty and compressed, though?

02:11:50.000 No, not anymore.

02:11:51.000 It used to be.

02:11:53.000 I don't know about that.

02:11:54.000 I just got one the other day, and it definitely wasn't perfect.

02:11:56.000 Was it iPhone to iPhone?

02:11:58.000 Yeah.

02:11:59.000 Yeah, it should be fine.

02:12:00.000 Unless it's over, I think, two minutes, then it might start compressing it.

02:12:03.000 But normal videos, like, you know, like a minute clip or whatever is usually fine. 0.99

02:12:08.000 Eddie Bravo sent me a video of me getting out of that tank, that crazy frozen 240-degree below-zero tank, and it looks like shit.

02:12:18.000 I do know if you cross-platform it, a lot of times it will be compressed. 0.89

02:12:22.000 Same platform.

02:12:22.000 He has an iPhone.

02:12:23.000 I have an iPhone.

02:12:24.000 He sent it to me.

02:12:25.000 I saw that on your Twitter, by the way.

02:12:26.000 What is that about?

02:12:27.000 The 240-degree thing?

02:12:29.000 What happens is you go into this thing for two minutes, and what happens is your body thinks you just got dropped off at the top of the world.

02:12:38.000 240 degrees below zero is insanely cold.

02:12:41.000 And you do it for two minutes, and your body rushes all your blood to the surface of your skin to try to heat it up because it's freaking out.

02:12:48.000 It can't believe how cold it is.

02:12:49.000 And then when you get out after two minutes, it realizes like, oh, this is like a normal temperature.

02:12:54.000 And everything relaxes.

02:12:55.000 And the idea is it flushes out inflammation.

02:12:57.000 It's incredibly efficient at like if you have injuries and inflammation, incredibly efficient at reducing it.

02:13:04.000 Did it help you? 0.99

02:13:05.000 Fuck yeah, it's great. 0.99

02:13:06.000 It makes you feel good, too. 1.00

02:13:07.000 It's really crazy.

02:13:08.000 Is it painful while you're actually in the negative 240?

02:13:11.000 No?

02:13:11.000 No.

02:13:12.000 It's just weird.

02:13:12.000 No.

02:13:13.000 It's too cold to even care.

02:13:14.000 It's quick.

02:13:15.000 You know, because it's so quick, Brian, I'm going to send it to you.

02:13:17.000 See if you can throw it up.

02:13:18.000 Or should I send it to you, Jamie?

02:13:19.000 Which one's on the bottom?

02:13:20.000 Is this an expensive thing or is this something that could be in malls in a couple years? 0.99

02:13:24.000 Oh, it's expensive as fuck. 0.97

02:13:26.000 It's expensive to have one of those. 0.99

02:13:31.000 That's what it's expensive.

02:13:32.000 But to use it, I'm not sure.

02:13:34.000 I don't think it's that much.

02:13:35.000 I don't remember, quite honest with you.

02:13:37.000 I mean, it sounds like the kind of polar opposite of why people go to saunas.

02:13:37.000 Sounds like a cool idea.

02:13:41.000 Get all the, you know, expand your skin and whatnot and get toxins out.

02:13:48.000 In some ways, in some ways, it's kind of the opposite, but in other ways, it's just another way to get your body to do things that are, you know, better than just resting.

02:13:58.000 You know, the sauna picks up your growth hormone.

02:14:02.000 It picks up, like, Dr. Rhonda Patrick wrote a whole piece on the benefits of the sauna.

02:14:07.000 Apparently, sauna has like some, like, that hyperheating environment, like the hot air for short periods of time, has a pretty significant effects on recovery and the body.

02:14:18.000 So the Russians had it right all along, man. 1.00

02:14:20.000 Have you seen that thing they do called the banya?

02:14:23.000 Yeah, they had it right all along.

02:14:24.000 They would do these hot, cold baths.

02:14:26.000 They would go back and forth.

02:14:27.000 They would do this banya thing where they go to this sauna and they slap sticks on each other. 0.56

02:14:33.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:14:34.000 I saw a vice video about that. 0.93

02:14:36.000 It's pretty fucking cool. 0.90

02:14:38.000 I'll email to you, Brian. 0.96

02:14:40.000 I'll email to you.

02:14:40.000 Should I email to you, Jamie?

02:14:42.000 Brian?

02:14:44.000 Okay.

02:14:48.000 Okay, what is it, Brian?

02:14:49.000 Hold on.

02:14:50.000 You know what it is.

02:14:52.000 Yeah, I'm just trying to find here.

02:14:54.000 Alright, it's on its way to you.

02:14:57.000 What were we talking about? 1.00

02:14:58.000 Cool shit. 1.00

02:14:59.000 Cool shit happening. 1.00

02:15:00.000 No, what was... 0.97

02:15:05.000 What was the subject that we were just talking about before the video?

02:15:08.000 Yeah, before this thing.

02:15:09.000 I'm sending it to him.

02:15:12.000 Before that, I was just going on my ramble about how Bitcoin's going to change everything. 0.89

02:15:15.000 No, I had a point about this fucking tank thing, and I forgot it now. 0.60

02:15:19.000 Oh, I was asking about the price, and you were saying that. 0.97

02:15:21.000 Oh, I'm not sure.

02:15:22.000 The place that I went to is in Hollywood.

02:15:24.000 I don't know how much it cost.

02:15:25.000 I should look it up.

02:15:26.000 I should look it up because it's a good spot.

02:15:28.000 But athletes are using it.

02:15:29.000 Kobe Bryant was like one of the first guys to bring it back from Europe.

02:15:32.000 In Europe, they've figured out quicker than America, and America's onto it now, that inflammation is one of the huge causes of all sorts of ailments in the body.

02:15:41.000 Physical injuries, sicknesses, inflammation from your diet, inflammation from exercise, strain, stress, all sorts of different things that cause your body to have inflammation that fucks up a lot of systems of the body.

02:15:56.000 And for recovery, reducing inflammation is really critical.

02:15:59.000 They used to do these ice baths where guys would go into like a tub, like this big steel tub, and they would just pour buckets of ice in there and cold water and you would sit submerged inside this thing.

02:16:13.000 And they would do a similar version of it, but it took far longer.

02:16:17.000 It wasn't nearly as effective.

02:16:19.000 And they figured out how to do this one, which is really, I mean, it's just really not that painful.

02:16:23.000 It's interesting.

02:16:24.000 It's weird.

02:16:25.000 You do it and you get out of there like, whoa, like, whoo, you know, like your whole body's like it just feels like as soon as you warm up, everything just like because it's only two minutes, everything just free flows, and it feels like you have like extra blood pumping through your body or something.

02:16:40.000 You feel like you just got this charge of energy.

02:16:43.000 That sounds cool, it's really cool.

02:16:45.000 I'm gonna look into that just out of curiosity because I do infrared saunas, and I get you feel good for the rest of that whole day.

02:16:53.000 If you do the sauna at like 3 or 4 p.m., the rest of the day you're a little bit lighter, a little bit friendlier, and like everything's nicer.

02:16:59.000 Yeah, massage is great for that, too.

02:17:01.000 Yeah, there's also cryo healthcare.

02:17:04.000 That's the name of the place.

02:17:06.000 How much does it cost?

02:17:07.000 Does it say?

02:17:08.000 It has a store.

02:17:10.000 Let's find out how much it costs.

02:17:13.000 But it's something that they figured out, like a lot of different things.

02:17:17.000 They figured out in Europe.

02:17:19.000 There it is.

02:17:19.000 That's me coming out of it right now.

02:17:20.000 Yeah, that shouldn't be that compressed.

02:17:21.000 That's not even a long video.

02:17:22.000 That was awesome.

02:17:30.000 That was only two minutes.

02:17:32.000 Another minute.

02:17:35.000 Can we get onto the game?

02:17:37.000 I like the breathing.

02:17:39.000 It's like the breathe.

02:17:44.000 The breathing was really weird.

02:17:46.000 Okay.

02:17:47.000 What's up, bro?

02:17:50.000 It was awesome.

02:17:52.000 Wow.

02:17:52.000 That was incredible.

02:17:54.000 It's crazy how hard it is to breathe in there.

02:17:56.000 That's the weird thing.

02:17:57.000 When you breathe, you have, it's like a labored breath, you know?

02:18:03.000 That's it.

02:18:04.000 That's the video.

02:18:05.000 But I'm going to do it all the time now.

02:18:06.000 I can't wait to do it again.

02:18:08.000 They have them all over the place.

02:18:10.000 Ian McCrawl does it every day.

02:18:11.000 He's one of the fighters for the UFC's Flyweight Division.

02:18:14.000 One of the best in the world.

02:18:15.000 He does it every day. 1.00

02:18:16.000 He's doing that cryotherapy shit. 1.00

02:18:19.000 He went up to 263 degrees below zero because he's an extremist. 1.00

02:18:23.000 He does like three minutes and 20 seconds, something fucking ridiculous. 0.97

02:18:27.000 The longest anyone's ever done, the coldest anyone's ever done. 0.98

02:18:30.000 That's kind of a good thing.

02:18:31.000 Any negatives?

02:18:32.000 Any negatives?

02:18:32.000 No, not to me.

02:18:34.000 I don't know what happens with other folks.

02:18:36.000 You turn into sub-zero.

02:18:37.000 You start freezing other people.

02:18:38.000 They start you off slow, though.

02:18:40.000 There's many, many articles on cryotherapy, though.

02:18:44.000 Both cryotherapy applied to sports and athletic performance, cryotherapy applied to injury and recovery.

02:18:51.000 There's a bunch of different things you could do now.

02:18:53.000 It's interesting.

02:18:54.000 There's a thing called the hyperbaric chamber.

02:18:56.000 There's that, that aids in recovery and oxygen utilization, healing of the body.

02:19:03.000 Like guys who have injuries, like Uriah Faber, he had a bunch of contusions on his leg from his fight.

02:19:09.000 He got leg kicked a lot. 0.66

02:19:10.000 His leg was fucked up and swollen. 0.99

02:19:12.000 And he went in that hyperbaric chamber. 0.99

02:19:14.000 That helps him.

02:19:14.000 Yeah, it helps him with his hands too.

02:19:16.000 He's getting his hands healed after he broke them.

02:19:18.000 He went to the hyperbaric chamber.

02:19:20.000 It's pretty incredible.

02:19:21.000 Cool. 0.99

02:19:22.000 Yeah, they have some amazing shit now. 0.98

02:19:24.000 We're just a few years away from creating bulletproof immortal people. 0.97

02:19:30.000 I mean, we're maybe like 100.

02:19:32.000 Like, if we live to be 100 years more, if human beings don't blow each other up, they're going to have bulletproof skin.

02:19:38.000 They're going to have organs that never tire. 0.89

02:19:40.000 They're going to have a genetic code that just never drops off.

02:19:43.000 I think we're less than 100 years away from an actual FTL drive.

02:19:47.000 If it can be built, I think it'll be built in the next 100 years.

02:19:49.000 FTL?

02:19:50.000 Yeah, faster than light.

02:19:51.000 Really?

02:19:53.000 NASA came out with that.

02:19:54.000 It was just a media stunt.

02:19:56.000 It was like a computer-generated image of what an FTL starship might look like.

02:20:01.000 Oh, I saw that.

02:20:01.000 Yeah, the warp drive thing?

02:20:02.000 Yeah, the warp drive thing.

02:20:04.000 And I think if it's going to happen, again, assuming we don't all kill each other, it'll happen in the next hundred years.

02:20:10.000 Because the technology is at the point where we could get there eventually.

02:20:13.000 How do you say that?

02:20:14.000 What could give you any indication that they'll be able to surpass the speed of light?

02:20:18.000 It seems like an energy problem.

02:20:19.000 And I don't even know what kind of advances are going to happen in energy just within our lifetime.

02:20:24.000 So I don't want to pretend I'm the FTL drive expert, but that scientist who's working on it came up with some kind of innovation where it would require far less energy than they originally thought to do this warp of the space-time fabric or whatever the fuck it does.

02:20:41.000 And the fact that he figured that out means that now they can work on a proof of concept.

02:20:45.000 They can do a very small version in a laboratory one day.

02:20:48.000 And once they have that, that's all you need to get industry interested.

02:20:52.000 You know, like, why should we build a faster-than-light spacecraft?

02:20:56.000 It's kind of a self-explanatory thing. 0.99

02:20:58.000 Like, cool as shit. 0.97

02:20:59.000 You can get resources anywhere in the galaxy. 0.98

02:21:01.000 Of course, people are going to try to build it if it becomes reasonable.

02:21:04.000 It's interesting if you look back on 1940, what was it, 45 when the atomic bomb was first detonated and think about 1945 to today, how long that is, 70 plus years.

02:21:15.000 Exactly.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:16.000 I mean, think about how primitive our technology was back then.

02:21:19.000 They had the stupid radios, the tube radios that would get like two channels, and they built a nuclear bomb. 1.00

02:21:25.000 No kidding, right? 1.00

02:21:26.000 And now we have smartphones that are so good.

02:21:28.000 I mean, I was thinking about how the year 2000, I had a palm pilot, and I was really psyched about it because it was the best you could have.

02:21:34.000 Yeah, I have an ambiguity.

02:21:35.000 It had a pop-up antenna.

02:21:37.000 I had the hard antenna, the nub.

02:21:39.000 I had the one that it would come up like you would pull it up.

02:21:42.000 You went old school. 0.97

02:21:43.000 If you were very lucky and all the stars were aligned, you could send an email on a shitty little keyboard.

02:21:50.000 And you pay like $70 a month for the data plan for like 500 kilobytes or something.

02:21:54.000 Yeah, I enjoyed my PomPilot.

02:21:56.000 I felt like I had a computer with me. 0.97

02:21:58.000 I was being fucking real. 0.96

02:22:00.000 I was on the ball. 0.98

02:22:01.000 I was on the technology ball.

02:22:02.000 But compare that to today, and that's only 14 years.

02:22:05.000 Amazing.

02:22:05.000 You know what amazes me the most still to this day?

02:22:07.000 Shazam.

02:22:08.000 That app that you can, like you hear a song, you just press that and do it.

02:22:12.000 Dude, I did it the other day. 0.94

02:22:13.000 It was loud as fuck in this restaurant, and this song was playing, and I was like, that song is cool. 0.99

02:22:17.000 What the fuck is that song? 0.99

02:22:19.000 And I was like, this ain't going to work. 0.99

02:22:20.000 Perfect.

02:22:21.000 Instantly.

02:22:22.000 The app gets better all the time, too.

02:22:24.000 That app, whatever they've done to it, maybe it's the new processing power of the new phones.

02:22:29.000 Because as the phones get more powerful, more resources are available for these apps to figure things out like that.

02:22:34.000 I don't know how it does it.

02:22:35.000 I don't understand how it works.

02:22:37.000 But it's incredible what we can do now.

02:22:39.000 Incredible.

02:22:40.000 The heart rate monitors that work off of the flash on the back of the phone.

02:22:43.000 Yeah.

02:22:44.000 That's insane.

02:22:45.000 That's pretty cool.

02:22:45.000 Put your finger over the camera.

02:22:47.000 I even use the 10,000 steps thing that the Samsung has where it tells you when you've hit 10,000 steps in a day.

02:22:53.000 Really?

02:22:54.000 I try to hit that because it's just good.

02:22:56.000 Like if I look down and it's 8 p.m. and it says only 6,000 steps, I'm like, oh, I'll just go walk to the LA River is kind of close to where I live.

02:23:02.000 It's like I'll just walk down there and back because I know it's about 4,000 steps.

02:23:06.000 I do that, and then I feel like I've hit my quota for the day.

02:23:09.000 So, you have a cell phone that's keeping me healthy, pretty much.

02:23:11.000 That's incredible.

02:23:12.000 Yeah, I'm a maniac, though. 0.98

02:23:14.000 I would get those 10,000 out before I did anything just so I could be able to do whatever the fuck I want for the rest of the day. 1.00

02:23:19.000 I would just find a staircase and keep walking up and down it like an idiot. 1.00

02:23:23.000 I probably would. 1.00

02:23:24.000 I'm not kidding.

02:23:25.000 I can't have something like that where there's a number in front of me that I have to achieve every day because I'll just go nuts.

02:23:31.000 I'll just do it right away.

02:23:32.000 Just hit it immediately.

02:23:33.000 Yeah, I'll just go, okay.

02:23:34.000 What time is it?

02:23:35.000 It's 9 o'clock.

02:23:36.000 By 10 o'clock, I'm going to have 10,000 steps ready to go.

02:23:39.000 How long would it take you to do 10,000 steps?

02:23:42.000 It's not that long.

02:23:43.000 It's like maybe like 20 or 30 minutes of walking.

02:23:46.000 It's done.

02:23:47.000 That's it?

02:23:47.000 I think so.

02:23:48.000 That's all you need to do in a day?

02:23:49.000 I mean, it's got to be brisk walking, but what do you consider brisk?

02:23:54.000 Like, just short of a power walk, pretty much.

02:23:56.000 Like, I'm not jogging, but when I walk, it's to get cardio.

02:24:00.000 That's interesting.

02:24:00.000 Do you ever do that sometimes at the airport?

02:24:02.000 Sometimes the airport, when I know I have like a long walk, I treat it like a workout.

02:24:06.000 And I just say, I'm just going to walk 50% faster than I would ever walk.

02:24:10.000 And just give it that extra. 1.00

02:24:11.000 And when I hit the ground, like, push off that motherfucker. 1.00

02:24:14.000 Push, push, push. 1.00

02:24:16.000 I don't do that at airports because I just kind of shut down in airports.

02:24:20.000 I feel like you're almost like this freight that just needs to be transported to where you need to go.

02:24:25.000 Like, I'm normally in my head, and before you know it, you're there.

02:24:28.000 I like music, man.

02:24:30.000 I'm very rarely at the airport without music.

02:24:33.000 Very rarely.

02:24:34.000 It makes the whole trip so much more fun.

02:24:36.000 When you're sitting down and just chilling out, waiting for your flight to take off, and you have some really good music, like you don't even mind.

02:24:43.000 You don't even mind waiting.

02:24:44.000 You can enjoy the music.

02:24:46.000 The problem with a lot of travel is the downtime problem.

02:24:50.000 That's the problem.

02:24:51.000 The problem is you're not doing what you want to do.

02:24:54.000 But what people don't think of is that you can do what you want to do while you're doing what you don't want to do.

02:25:01.000 Like if there's a time where you have to do something like just sit and wait, you can listen to a book on tape.

02:25:06.000 You can go to audible.com, get a book on tape.

02:25:07.000 You can listen to this podcast.

02:25:09.000 You can listen to some cool music.

02:25:11.000 And it makes it better. 0.63

02:25:12.000 It literally makes, it's better than just sitting there like a dummy.

02:25:15.000 Like, when's this thing going to take off?

02:25:17.000 Just plunk, plunk, crank.

02:25:20.000 I did the airport this weekend for Vegas.

02:25:21.000 I was listening to Shooter Jennings.

02:25:23.000 You ever listen to Shooter Jennings?

02:25:24.000 No, I haven't. 1.00

02:25:25.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:25:26.000 Wayland Jennings' son has some fucking talent. 1.00

02:25:28.000 He's good, dude. 1.00

02:25:30.000 He's got some great songs.

02:25:31.000 It's really good.

02:25:33.000 Interesting stuff, too.

02:25:34.000 So that was my travel time.

02:25:37.000 My travel time was listening to some new music.

02:25:41.000 It's always good.

02:25:42.000 What about books?

02:25:42.000 I like reading on flights because nobody can interrupt you.

02:25:45.000 There's no phone call or nonsense.

02:25:47.000 I like writing on flights.

02:25:49.000 I get some of my best writing done on flights for whatever reason.

02:25:53.000 Are you working on a book or something?

02:25:54.000 Because I think you've mentioned before that you write.

02:25:56.000 Yeah, well, I write shit down that I'll eventually probably put together as a book, but I'm not giving myself any, like especially right now, I'm concentrating almost entirely on writing stand-up.

02:26:06.000 I'm going to do my next special. 0.81

02:26:07.000 And the tickets actually just went on sale today for Denver.

02:26:11.000 I'm going to be in Denver on August 22nd and 23rd.

02:26:18.000 22nd is Friday night.

02:26:20.000 That's like the night before the taping to have fun and do some shows and get loose.

02:26:25.000 And then on Saturday night, I'm recording my comedy show at the Comedy Works.

02:26:32.000 And it should be fun.

02:26:34.000 Denver's a cool city.

02:26:35.000 I like Colorado in general. 1.00

02:26:37.000 Colorado is the shit. 1.00

02:26:38.000 And right now it's changing, changing radically. 1.00

02:26:41.000 It's like all this marijuana money is really transferring the consciousness of this entire city.

02:26:49.000 A lot of people are concerned about it.

02:26:50.000 They're worried about nefarious elements getting involved and all sorts of weirdos and biker gangs and who knows who's going to have money now.

02:26:59.000 But the pros to me so severely outweigh the cons.

02:27:02.000 It's like you're giving adults the ability to choose responsibly, whether they use it or don't use it.

02:27:08.000 What you're doing is you're giving people freedom.

02:27:10.000 And freedom always makes better people.

02:27:12.000 It just does. 0.99

02:27:13.000 As long as no one's getting hurt, you're not talking about freedom to fucking sell poison. 1.00

02:27:16.000 You're not talking about freedom to shoot darts at fucking babies. 0.99

02:27:20.000 What you're talking about is freedom to ingest a plant that grows naturally on Earth. 1.00

02:27:24.000 Yeah, and the government lets you frack for thousands of miles.

02:27:27.000 You can't blow a puff of smoke in the air that happens to be an herb they don't like.

02:27:31.000 It's one of those things where it's so intrinsically ridiculous that that's why it's changing all at once.

02:27:36.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

02:27:38.000 I think this is one of the coolest times ever to be alive.

02:27:42.000 I really do.

02:27:42.000 And I think that one of the reasons why it's one of the coolest times ever to be alive is because it's just so chaotic and so strange.

02:27:50.000 And no one can do anything about it.

02:27:52.000 No one can stop it.

02:27:53.000 They're going to try to net neutrality.

02:27:55.000 They're going to try to put the brakes here and charge people for that. 0.98

02:27:59.000 And you're in trouble and you're on a list and I'm going to watch you. 1.00

02:28:02.000 What are you trying to be anonymous, you fucker? 1.00

02:28:05.000 I want to know where you are. 1.00

02:28:08.000 We were talking about this right before the show. 0.98

02:28:10.000 Like all that shit that's coming out, like all the corruption and anger and government incompetence, I'm starting to believe that it has to be there because that's what wakes us up to. 0.99

02:28:20.000 We don't need so many agencies. 1.00

02:28:22.000 We don't need like so many wars and so much bullshit. 0.99

02:28:25.000 Let's just decide things for ourselves. 0.98

02:28:26.000 And of course we need some laws.

02:28:28.000 We need some police.

02:28:29.000 We need some roads.

02:28:30.000 And that's really it.

02:28:31.000 Thank you very much.

02:28:32.000 You know, like have a nice day. 0.99

02:28:33.000 We don't need you archiving fucking baby photos. 0.99

02:28:36.000 That's when you've gone over the line. 0.99

02:28:37.000 And so you're seeing that people realize that.

02:28:39.000 People realize that banks are ineffective and greedy. 0.99

02:28:42.000 People realize that the old media is dying out and they don't give a shit about their viewers. 0.96

02:28:46.000 So they're just moving over to better stuff.

02:28:48.000 And it's happening across the board in pretty much every industry.

02:28:51.000 Even I had this woman, Tiffany Van Gogh, on my show recently, who's another podcast host.

02:28:58.000 And she was talking to me about how all these grocery stores now have an organic section and that's taking off.

02:29:04.000 And so you're seeing like this, we have new standards.

02:29:07.000 I think what's happening is that we have higher standards than we used to.

02:29:10.000 And so across the board is better stuff.

02:29:13.000 Yeah, there's no doubt that things are getting more complex and harder to control.

02:29:17.000 There's no doubt. 0.84

02:29:19.000 And there's no doubt that these old systems, whether it's like afternoon, when you watch the news at 6 or 5 or whatever the fuck it is, it seems like you're watching a parody. 0.96

02:29:28.000 Right. 0.90

02:29:28.000 Anchorman is becoming more and more... 0.90

02:29:40.000 who are you? 0.55

02:29:40.000 I think these things were not supposed to exist forever, and that's why to us it seems so kind of silly. 0.55

02:29:44.000 It's like it's supposed to be dying out.

02:29:46.000 That's like it's the new season, new stuff's going to come out.

02:29:49.000 It's kind of like fashion, right?

02:29:50.000 Like every year it's going to be something different.

02:29:52.000 That's the way it works.

02:29:53.000 Now it's like corporate media and centralization, top-down type stuff is dying out.

02:29:58.000 And I'm sure it'll continue to exist in a bunch of different forms.

02:30:01.000 But that idea is getting weaker and weaker.

02:30:04.000 I think that eventually afternoon news, evening news, whatever it is, is going to be like a burlesque show.

02:30:09.000 Like people are going to pull it out on stage, like just a nostalgia thing. 0.98

02:30:12.000 It's like riding a unicycle or fucking being in a covered wagon. 0.98

02:30:16.000 Like, take my photo. 1.00

02:30:17.000 I'm in a covered wagon.

02:30:18.000 We're going to go watch the local news.

02:30:20.000 It's a new show where they just, they leave out like really important parts of historic events because they don't jive with the government plan.

02:30:29.000 I mean, that would be really funny.

02:30:31.000 Like watching a news report.

02:30:33.000 You could easily do a parody of a news report of the fervor after 2011 or 2001 rather, after September 11th.

02:30:41.000 You could easily do some sort of a government propaganda Fox News at its worst, but just oh, so subtle show.

02:30:48.000 And people would eat it up.

02:30:51.000 And 10 years from now, it probably will be like burlesque.

02:30:56.000 You ever watch a burlesque show? 0.83

02:30:57.000 Isn't that kind of what Colbert does in terms of he takes that model, makes it a little bit ridiculous?

02:31:02.000 And now he does have millions of viewers.

02:31:02.000 Yep.

02:31:05.000 Well, he's going to take over Letterin Spot.

02:31:07.000 Yeah.

02:31:07.000 It's hilarious.

02:31:08.000 When does that start?

02:31:09.000 Well, what's weird is what is he going to do?

02:31:11.000 Is he going to be Colbert?

02:31:12.000 Hmm.

02:31:13.000 No.

02:31:13.000 I heard he's not.

02:31:14.000 That's what he's going to be himself?

02:31:16.000 Yeah.

02:31:18.000 You know, he's like an ardent Catholic.

02:31:20.000 Is he really?

02:31:21.000 Yeah, he's like, the guy's a serious Catholic.

02:31:25.000 Interesting.

02:31:25.000 Yeah, that is interesting.

02:31:26.000 I didn't know that.

02:31:27.000 Or maybe it would just be a new character.

02:31:28.000 Unless that's a character, too.

02:31:30.000 Maybe that's a character, too. 1.00

02:31:31.000 Maybe the Catholic thing is bullshit. 1.00

02:31:34.000 He's just playing that character as well. 1.00

02:31:36.000 Yeah, who knows?

02:31:37.000 What do you think?

02:31:39.000 I think he's probably going to play a version of himself mixed with a late-night talk show host character.

02:31:39.000 I don't know.

02:31:45.000 You know, it's probably, you know what I mean?

02:31:47.000 Like, hey, welcome back, guys.

02:31:50.000 You know, but he's still going to be himself, but not.

02:31:52.000 He's very quick.

02:31:53.000 He's a very quick guy.

02:31:55.000 Very, very.

02:31:56.000 Because Leno was a character.

02:31:57.000 That wasn't really Leno.

02:31:59.000 Oh, yeah, but he doesn't think that.

02:32:01.000 I don't know.

02:32:02.000 He's so much better with just cars.

02:32:04.000 I watch Jay Leno's car shows.

02:32:06.000 Like, he's got this Jay Leno's garage or Jay's garage. 0.98

02:32:09.000 It's fucking great. 0.98

02:32:10.000 And I'm watching him. 0.99

02:32:11.000 I was like, this could be a really good show.

02:32:13.000 Like, why didn't you do this the whole time?

02:32:15.000 Because you see him on the tonight show.

02:32:17.000 It's just so, you know, it's forced.

02:32:19.000 He's talking. 0.77

02:32:20.000 Like, that's that bit that Bill Hicks used to do about him talking to Joey Lawrence, pulling out a gun and blowing his brains out.

02:32:26.000 And it forms an NBC peacock on the wall because he's a company man to the bitter end.

02:32:31.000 It was a great classic bit.

02:32:33.000 But in a way, I mean, the reason why the bit was funny was because it kind of was true.

02:32:37.000 Like, what was he doing? 0.96

02:32:38.000 He used to be a great comic, and now he's this shill, this like guy who's just selling people's TV shows that he doesn't give a fuck about. 0.99

02:32:45.000 But you know what he gives a fuck about? 0.99

02:32:47.000 Cars. 0.99

02:32:48.000 I've seen him on, I think, Discovery Channel before, and he's lit up like a Christmas tree, just super excited.

02:32:53.000 Well, he knows everything about cars, and not just everything about cars of today.

02:32:58.000 He knows about steam-powered cars and old cars and electric cars.

02:33:02.000 I mean, he's got like a fleet of automobiles.

02:33:05.000 He works on them.

02:33:06.000 He's got this Jay Leno, Jay's Garage show, and he loves them.

02:33:12.000 Jay Leno has more money than he will ever know what to do with. 1.00

02:33:15.000 He's rich as fuck. 0.99

02:33:17.000 And he had so much money that he made from stand-up that he never touched any of his tonight show money. 1.00

02:33:22.000 He was like proud of that, that he just put it all in the bank. 0.96

02:33:25.000 So all those cars, whatever his house costs, all that shit, that's all his stand-up comedy money. 0.99

02:33:30.000 Wow. 0.99

02:33:31.000 Yeah, wow. 0.96

02:33:32.000 The guy's got a fuckload of money. 0.70

02:33:34.000 He is not spending the money he makes from the TV show?

02:33:36.000 Nope.

02:33:37.000 He doesn't have to.

02:33:37.000 Nope.

02:33:38.000 He makes a lot of money doing stand-up.

02:33:39.000 It's got to be an insane amount of money by now.

02:33:41.000 Must be insane.

02:33:42.000 He just put it all in the bank.

02:33:43.000 But the point being, like, he doesn't need money, but he's doing it because he loves cars.

02:33:47.000 That's what everybody should do.

02:33:48.000 And nobody would ever have had these issues with Jay Leno if he did that.

02:33:52.000 You know, you remember when Jimmy Kimmel went on a show and mocked him because he was trying to take Conan's job back?

02:33:57.000 And no one would have ever done that if it was just his car show.

02:34:00.000 You know, there's no competition.

02:34:03.000 He's just having a great time talking about cars.

02:34:05.000 It's cool to see.

02:34:06.000 It's cool to see somebody kind of get that.

02:34:09.000 And it's like the internet has transformed a lot of people's ideas of who Jay Leno is.

02:34:15.000 That's really cool.

02:34:16.000 It's cool when you can see the other side of somebody where you only see the little public piece that pushed out there.

02:34:21.000 Well, you know, that job's a weird job, man.

02:34:24.000 Being the host of the tonight shows.

02:34:26.000 That's another anachronism that's for sure going to fade out.

02:34:28.000 If you look at the demographics, that idea of like Letterman and Leno, I don't see that existing in even 15 years.

02:34:34.000 Like I would put the lifespan of that concept at 15 years at the absolute most.

02:34:39.000 Because the people watching it now, how old are they?

02:34:41.000 50 or 60?

02:34:42.000 How old are they in 10 or 15 years?

02:34:43.000 Well, what about Chelsea Handler?

02:34:45.000 She's kind of doing that, and she's going to do that on Netflix now. 0.60

02:34:47.000 Well, that seems to me like an internet show.

02:34:50.000 That format seems different.

02:34:52.000 An internet show?

02:34:53.000 It's like a panel.

02:34:54.000 I don't have as much of an issue with the panel as that seems very like the way you should do a show almost.

02:34:59.000 But the late night thing, I just don't see it existing because not only are people getting older, a lot of old people are liking podcasts now.

02:35:07.000 I've got some older listeners, and I'm sure you do, because it's not that hard.

02:35:10.000 We make it seem like it's this huge chasm.

02:35:13.000 It's really not.

02:35:13.000 You get bored of what's on TV at night.

02:35:16.000 You flip around through iTunes on your phone.

02:35:19.000 Now you're a podcast listener.

02:35:20.000 You've just switched demographics, you know?

02:35:22.000 Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

02:35:24.000 And the problem with something like podcasting as opposed to these other things is that, you know, if you have a show on NBC, you can't not be a shill. 0.95

02:35:36.000 You're going to be the talk show host for the tonight show.

02:35:39.000 You're going to be on CBS.

02:35:41.000 I mean, you can have a certain amount of room for creative expression, but essentially what you're trying to do is you're trying to be entertaining while you're promoting people's projects.

02:35:49.000 And that's how you get access to Tom Cruise.

02:35:52.000 That's what it is. 1.00

02:35:53.000 And if you're some wild fucker, you're not going to get access to Tom Cruise. 1.00

02:35:57.000 So you kind of have to be. 1.00

02:35:59.000 Or Barack Obama.

02:36:00.000 How many times has he interviewed Barack Obama?

02:36:01.000 At least a couple, right?

02:36:02.000 Yep, yep. 1.00

02:36:03.000 Fuck yeah, he did. 1.00

02:36:04.000 That's a good point. 1.00

02:36:05.000 Where you know he's 100% safe.

02:36:07.000 I was on with Ron Paul last time I did tonight's show. 0.95

02:36:10.000 Jay's a fucking really nice guy, though. 0.94

02:36:12.000 He's a very nice guy. 0.97

02:36:14.000 And I really like him on his car show.

02:36:16.000 It's really cool to see. 0.97

02:36:18.000 I don't know what kind of crazy shit he did when he was trying to get when Letterman and him were duking it out and they made those that TV show about. 0.97

02:36:26.000 Remember that made-for-TV movie? 0.99

02:36:28.000 The late shift?

02:36:28.000 Yeah.

02:36:29.000 It was like an HBO movie that they made on the struggle.

02:36:32.000 Who knows how much of that was true and how much of it wasn't?

02:36:34.000 I don't know.

02:36:35.000 But apparently Jay Leno really did hide in the closet while this guy was having conversations about him and then used that information against him.

02:36:41.000 It's kind of funny.

02:36:42.000 The more I think about it, I think Leno has a bit of a spine though because I've seen him do some skits on surveillance type stuff and criticize various policies.

02:36:51.000 He's not a complete company man, right?

02:36:55.000 Like he does use that from time to time.

02:36:57.000 He had you and Ron Paul on.

02:36:59.000 Well, we didn't talk about, I mean, I especially didn't talk about too much crazy.

02:37:02.000 I just said that.

02:37:02.000 But just by what I'm saying is just by doing that, he's being kind of better than he could be.

02:37:08.000 Yeah, he had me on, though, because NBC had Fear Factor on.

02:37:11.000 I don't think it was his idea.

02:37:13.000 Like, I mean, I'm sure he could probably veto me.

02:37:15.000 He's always been nice to me.

02:37:21.000 I don't think so.

02:37:22.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:37:23.000 I mean, I would assume Jay Leno has a lot of power over who he chooses to talk to or not talk to on a show.

02:37:29.000 It's not like they needed me on. 1.00

02:37:31.000 It could have been, if you said, like, no way, that guy's a dick. 0.99

02:37:33.000 But, you know, I'm sure he could have blackballed it. 0.99

02:37:36.000 But Ron Paul, for sure, is a controversial character.

02:37:39.000 But he's right about so much stuff. 0.99

02:37:41.000 That's what's so funny is a few years ago, people were like, Ron Paul, what a fucking crazy Federal Reserve. 0.99

02:37:47.000 I started to look into it. 0.99

02:37:48.000 It's like, well, the Federal Reserve is actually pretty crazy.

02:37:48.000 A lot of people did.

02:37:51.000 So he was right about that.

02:37:52.000 He was right about the whole, like, we shouldn't be going into all these places because now you see Iraq. 1.00

02:37:57.000 Like, what the fuck do we spend all this time and money over there for if they're now falling back into the same chaos? 0.86

02:38:03.000 Yeah, dude, what is ISIS? 0.97

02:38:04.000 I have no idea.

02:38:04.000 Explain ISIS.

02:38:05.000 I honestly have not heard of them up until about two weeks ago.

02:38:08.000 And you're on the ball.

02:38:08.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:38:09.000 Yeah, like that's the first I'd heard about them.

02:38:11.000 You're on the ball.

02:38:12.000 I mean, you're on top of it. 0.78

02:38:13.000 If there's anything weird shit in the news, you're one of my favorite people to talk to because you usually have a, if there's anything really significant, you usually have a pretty detailed idea of what's going on. 0.90

02:38:22.000 You don't even know what ISIS is. 0.93

02:38:24.000 I talked to some people the other night that gave me a fairly good explanation.

02:38:28.000 Brian Callan is on top of it, of course.

02:38:30.000 The Sunnis and the Shi'is. 1.00

02:38:32.000 Apparently, it has a lot to do with that. 0.99

02:38:34.000 But it's a really bad militant jihadist organization scaring the fuck out of people. 0.59

02:38:41.000 And it sounds like a team of bad guys in the Avengers. 0.94

02:38:47.000 It does sound a little...

02:38:47.000 Doesn't it?

02:38:50.000 ISIS?

02:38:52.000 It's like, okay, this is more evidence that life's not real.

02:38:56.000 There's a band of bad guys called...

02:38:56.000 I'm in a movie.

02:39:03.000 You think so?

02:39:04.000 I think life is too weird.

02:39:05.000 Like, for me on a personal level, it's just too bizarre.

02:39:08.000 Too many checks. 0.99

02:39:09.000 Getting some bitches. 1.00

02:39:11.000 Things are just happening so quick. 0.98

02:39:13.000 I don't mean like my own life, but things are happening so quickly in such a cool way.

02:39:16.000 Like, the whole currency thing I consider to be psychedelic.

02:39:19.000 The whole legalization thing is literally psychedelic.

02:39:22.000 And then just this internet thing and how people seem to know what's going on and 20 years ago they really didn't.

02:39:29.000 There's something very cool about that.

02:39:30.000 And the progress rate, it almost doesn't feel like reality.

02:39:33.000 It feels like it's a simulation we're all in. 0.98

02:39:35.000 And I'm not saying it actually is because who the fuck knows. 0.96

02:39:37.000 It just seems like a lot of really interesting, weird things happen that by pure probability, why would this even happen? 0.95

02:39:44.000 It seems like it's kind of an adventure.

02:39:45.000 I agree that it is an adventure, but I think it really is an adventure.

02:39:50.000 There's no plan.

02:39:50.000 There's no design.

02:39:51.000 Yeah, I'm not convinced that it's a simulation, but I wouldn't be shocked if it was.

02:39:56.000 I mean, I probably would be shocked, but logically speaking, if I looked at all the possibles and the variables, I would say that it being a simulation is definitely in the mix.

02:40:05.000 But even if it's not a simulation, it's a simulation because you are born.

02:40:09.000 Now you have this localized consciousness.

02:40:11.000 You don't know why.

02:40:12.000 You don't know what you're supposed to do.

02:40:13.000 Like, crazy people claim that God speaks to them. 0.99

02:40:16.000 But for the rest of us, we don't know what the fuck to do. 0.98

02:40:18.000 We're here for 70 or 80 or 90 years, then the game ends. 0.86

02:40:23.000 What was the purpose?

02:40:24.000 What were the rules?

02:40:25.000 Exactly.

02:40:25.000 You don't know, but it does feel a little bit like a video game.

02:40:28.000 There's a certain life cycle to the game, certain little obstacles.

02:40:32.000 And people talk about synchronicity, which is it borders on being like secret type stuff, but I think there's something to it.

02:40:39.000 Like, law of attraction?

02:40:39.000 You mean the secret?

02:40:41.000 Power of attraction?

02:40:41.000 There's a difference between law of attraction, like, nonsense and synchronicity, which I believe is a real...

02:40:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:40:48.000 I just believe it's real.

02:40:50.000 What do you think it is?

02:40:51.000 When you say synchronicity, you mean thinking about things and they come true, having friends, you think about them and they call you, coincidental events that take place.

02:40:59.000 Like what specifically do you think of when you think of synchronicity?

02:41:01.000 Yeah, it's those moments where you're on a flight and at the last minute your seat changes and the person you sit next to is the agent who signs you and then your career takes off.

02:41:11.000 And I talk to people where that happens all the time. 0.92

02:41:13.000 And it seems like if life were just this Malthusian fucking thing that we all go through and grind through and there's no purpose whatsoever and no design at all and nothing to it aside from like just maybe reproduce and then die. 0.95

02:41:27.000 If that were the case, I don't think all this cool stuff would be happening. 0.95

02:41:30.000 There's constant synergy.

02:41:32.000 Things are getting so much better so quickly that it seems almost like this is where we're supposed to be and it's leading towards something.

02:41:40.000 That's fascinating.

02:41:41.000 I wonder.

02:41:43.000 I look at the whole, if you look at the big picture of the whole universe, everything starting from the Big Bang, spreading out, planets forming, stars giving, you know, solar, these solar nebulas, solar nurseries giving birth to stars.

02:41:59.000 And you think about what is this whole process and what's it trying to do? 0.94

02:42:03.000 It's constantly trying to make more complex shit. 0.98

02:42:05.000 Like everything is more complex. 1.00

02:42:07.000 A planet cools off.

02:42:09.000 Biological life begins to form. 1.00

02:42:11.000 Life starts shooting rockets out.

02:42:13.000 It starts like streaming things down, spinning things in the air above the planet in orbit, blowing nuclear bombs up in the atmosphere.

02:42:21.000 And if you look at that, and it's trying to get off, it's trying to figure out a way to complicate itself, trying to figure out a way to get more biologically, more, more biologically advanced to the point where it's not going to die.

02:42:34.000 It's trying to figure out how to kill diseases and spread information, faster than the speed of light.

02:42:40.000 It's trying to figure out how to travel in space through warp drives.

02:42:44.000 I mean, think about all the things it's trying to do.

02:42:46.000 It's trying to populate other planets, in which case it'll continue to evolve its technology, continue to get smarter, continue to change its capacity to change the world, the environments, open up wormholes, start traveling to other dimensions.

02:42:58.000 I mean, it's going to populate the whole Earth.

02:43:01.000 It's going to populate the whole galaxy.

02:43:03.000 It's going to populate the whole universe.

02:43:05.000 It's going to keep going.

02:43:06.000 It's a crazy little weird thing, and it's called consciousness.

02:43:10.000 And we're bodies that carry consciousness around the same way a jug carries water around.

02:43:15.000 And our consciousness figures out a way to evolve the body and the environment and changes things and moves things around and improves things.

02:43:24.000 And right now, it's improving the very society that we live in.

02:43:28.000 The very culture that we operate on is changing radically because of technology.

02:43:33.000 Technology and human innovation, human creativity, changing the actual earth itself.

02:43:39.000 Buildings would just pop up 30, 40 stories.

02:43:44.000 Build them out of the ground.

02:43:45.000 Figure out how to engineer them.

02:43:46.000 Planes and bridges you could drive across unpassable lakes. 0.97

02:43:52.000 And all this shit is being done like right like that. 0.99

02:43:54.000 Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. 0.99

02:43:56.000 It's just happening and piling up.

02:43:58.000 And what's cool is we've layered in capitalism.

02:44:00.000 So we're doing all these things that are essentially just creative and are not at all necessary to get laid or to get food.

02:44:06.000 You know, like that's what it comes down to for most species.

02:44:09.000 And instead, we're talking and building stuff and doing all the things that human beings do.

02:44:13.000 We don't need to be doing any of it.

02:44:15.000 Yeah, that's amazing.

02:44:16.000 So it makes you believe almost like we're these creativity engines or kind of chaos engines that are just churning out ideas.

02:44:23.000 Because for sure, you don't need to be as smart as we are to survive on this planet. 0.97

02:44:27.000 But you do if you want to survive, you know, for a long fucking time.

02:44:32.000 Yeah, but what I wanted to add, what I kind of forgot to add in there was the capitalism thing, what I was saying, is that we've transferred it so that all these things that are essentially just art and creativity are now survival for us because we can make money from them.

02:44:47.000 So if you're a rocket ship designer 300 years ago, that doesn't mean anything.

02:44:52.000 If you're a great sculptor 300 years ago, you're still probably in the fields.

02:44:56.000 Like you got to eat food, right?

02:44:57.000 You got to do it. 1.00

02:44:58.000 Now it takes no time at all for that shit. 0.99

02:45:01.000 So you can actually be a sculptor. 1.00

02:45:02.000 You can go to NYU or Columbia or something and learn how to be a fucking sculptor. 0.98

02:45:07.000 And you can become a rocket designer and do that. 0.99

02:45:09.000 And you'll actually be compensated.

02:45:11.000 So you're doing these things that are completely not essential to your own existence.

02:45:15.000 But it's been kind of transferred into this thing where you're like, I have to do this so I can survive.

02:45:21.000 Which is very cool if you think about it.

02:45:23.000 Yeah, it's non-essential, but it's something that's desirable.

02:45:26.000 It's something that helps make our life more interesting.

02:45:28.000 So you're willing to give up some Bitcoin for it.

02:45:31.000 And next thing you know, you're off to the races.

02:45:34.000 Yeah, we're, you know, I think we're living in the most exciting time ever.

02:45:38.000 I think this is the best time ever to be alive as a human.

02:45:41.000 I think if you look back on all the different, I mean, everybody wants to cry that the sky is falling and pollution and global warming.

02:45:48.000 Things change.

02:45:48.000 Like, that's what people have to be aware of is, you know, I was saying different things in 2011 because it was a different world in 2011.

02:45:56.000 And I'll be saying different things in 2017 because it'll be a different world.

02:46:00.000 And if you're always saying the same thing, like there are financial experts who've been saying that the collapse is coming for the past 25 years, literally.

02:46:07.000 Like, just put your money into gold now.

02:46:08.000 It's coming, folks.

02:46:10.000 Like, 100% never happened.

02:46:10.000 And it never came.

02:46:12.000 The recession, one of the few good things Obama has done, seems to have gotten us out of the recession through a combination of things.

02:46:21.000 And that collapse that they try to sell you on newsletters and stuff is not happening.

02:46:25.000 It's not going to happen in the way that it's described.

02:46:27.000 It's not even going to feel like a collapse.

02:46:29.000 Like, would you consider the internet to be the collapse of civilization?

02:46:32.000 No, it's just like the growth of civilization.

02:46:34.000 It's a collapse of Jesus.

02:46:36.000 Yeah.

02:46:37.000 The collapse of easy corporate money is what it is.

02:46:39.000 It's a collapse of a lot of things, man. 1.00

02:46:41.000 A lot of stupid shit is getting flushed out. 1.00

02:46:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:46:44.000 It's always going to be that way.

02:46:46.000 It's always going to be there's going to be an old method.

02:46:48.000 The old method is replaced by a better method.

02:46:49.000 The old method's trial, struggles to try to stay relevant, and it never makes it.

02:46:54.000 I mean, no one's riding wagons around, man.

02:46:56.000 There's no wagon trains.

02:46:58.000 There's this great quote that made the rounds Western Union in like the 1870s or something.

02:47:03.000 You probably saw this.

02:47:04.000 Like, this telephone has no use whatsoever.

02:47:08.000 It was about the telephone, and that was pretty much what it said.

02:47:10.000 Like, this telephone is too novel to ever gain mainstream acceptance.

02:47:13.000 We were talking about the War of Worlds the other day, the Orson Welles thing, the radio show, and about how they were talking about radio being a new medium and that radio is a new thing, and that we have to figure out how to control the broadcasts.

02:47:27.000 That must have felt like telepathy for them for the first five or ten years.

02:47:31.000 Because now you have FDR or whoever in your living room. 0.63

02:47:34.000 Talking to you. 1.00

02:47:35.000 Must have been cool as shit. 0.99

02:47:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:47:38.000 Plus, they were all probably drunk at the time, drunk and high. 0.98

02:47:40.000 So they're like, holy shit, FDR is in the other room. 0.99

02:47:43.000 And plus, it's got to really stimulate the imagination to just think he's talking. 0.98

02:47:47.000 You don't even get to see him except in the movie theaters.

02:47:50.000 They would go to the movie theaters and they'd play them like these clips.

02:47:53.000 Have you ever seen those clips?

02:47:54.000 I've seen some of the war clips.

02:47:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:47:56.000 Amazing.

02:47:57.000 Like they would play like clips of soldiers over there doing battle.

02:47:57.000 Amazing.

02:48:01.000 But other than that, you had to pretend that you could imagine.

02:48:05.000 Like you got to look at the newspaper stories and you'd get like a black and white photo and try to piece together what it was like to be there.

02:48:11.000 I saw this great thing online that it was talking about how we assume that we're all rude now because we're all looking down at our phones the whole time.

02:48:20.000 Well, it showed a photo of a subway in New York like sometime in the 40s and it's all newspapers.

02:48:25.000 Yeah.

02:48:26.000 So people were just as rude back then.

02:48:27.000 We're interested in finding information.

02:48:29.000 They're just doing it in a kind of crude way.

02:48:31.000 Yeah, they've always done that.

02:48:33.000 People have always sat down on like airplanes and had magazines and read magazines and books.

02:48:39.000 They didn't just have parties and start singing together.

02:48:41.000 They didn't share their souls while they're on the flight.

02:48:44.000 I was on a flight once where a lady tried to proselytize. 0.99

02:48:47.000 I was on a flight once with my friend who's a Jewish guy, and he got really angry.

02:48:52.000 He got really angry.

02:48:53.000 This big black woman came by and she said something to the tone, something along the lines of Jesus loves you.

02:49:03.000 I need to get Jesus to you, to put Jesus in your soul. 0.76

02:49:07.000 And she would like sing.

02:49:08.000 She was like singing while the plane was going on.

02:49:10.000 Before she got up to tell him about Jesus, she was like singing like biblical songs.

02:49:15.000 And my friend was like, I'm not interested.

02:49:16.000 Thank you.

02:49:17.000 Not interested.

02:49:18.000 Please stop talking to me.

02:49:19.000 Can someone please have her sit down? 1.00

02:49:21.000 And the lady came over and told her she had to sit down and stop singing.

02:49:25.000 And then, you know, a couple people came over and had a conversation with her. 1.00

02:49:29.000 They told him, stop singing out Jesus shit. 0.99

02:49:32.000 Well, I mean, the people who have a secular upbringing, you have a stranger coming up to you. 1.00

02:49:36.000 This happens to all of us all the time.

02:49:38.000 Like, there are a couple of Mormon guys.

02:49:40.000 They didn't come up to me, but they were on their bicycles where I was a few days ago.

02:49:43.000 And you can see them doing their thing.

02:49:45.000 And it's a combination of you feel bad for them because you know they were just brought up in it.

02:49:50.000 But also, like, as a secular person, I just go, you know, this stuff is not factually accurate.

02:49:56.000 You're pushing it on people who have not asked for it.

02:49:58.000 It's unsolicited. 1.00

02:49:59.000 And who the fuck are you? 1.00

02:50:00.000 You're the expert on what God wants. 1.00

02:50:02.000 You're some broke Mormon kid on a bicycle and you're supposed to tell me what Jesus wants me to do with my life. 1.00

02:50:07.000 Like you don't even know what you're doing with your life. 1.00

02:50:09.000 Yeah, silly, silly people. 1.00

02:50:11.000 Silly, silly people. 1.00

02:50:13.000 You can't do that. 1.00

02:50:14.000 I don't even answer the door.

02:50:15.000 Ever since I got one of those big metal doors that you can see through, like, Yeah, I decided to have that.

02:50:22.000 That saves so much uncomfortable.

02:50:25.000 Like, you just open up the front first door.

02:50:27.000 You can see through what's going on.

02:50:28.000 Go, I'm not interested.

02:50:29.000 Slam the door. 0.98

02:50:30.000 I want to make sure you have what I'm thinking of.

02:50:32.000 You have like a nightclub slit, right?

02:50:33.000 No, no, no.

02:50:34.000 I have a wooden door that's then on top of it.

02:50:38.000 It's just this huge metal door that has like pins holes throughout the whole thing.

02:50:43.000 So you can see through it, but barely.

02:50:45.000 But you can see what's on the other side of the door, and you can talk, but you don't have to open the door.

02:50:49.000 Glorious.

02:50:49.000 I love it.

02:50:50.000 Glorious times, my friend.

02:50:52.000 Text me.

02:50:53.000 Text away, son.

02:50:54.000 Yeah, I'm just absolutely completely fascinated by all these new things that are coming out.

02:50:59.000 I got a new pen that I need to implement.

02:51:01.000 Next podcast, I'm going to do it.

02:51:03.000 I haven't set it up yet, but you might be interested in this too for notes.

02:51:07.000 This new pen is a digital pen that takes a photograph of any note that you make.

02:51:11.000 You don't have it here right now?

02:51:12.000 No, I don't have it here.

02:51:12.000 It's at home.

02:51:13.000 it's complicated it's one of those things I have to look at and figure out how I'm gonna um You write down on this notebook all your different notes.

02:51:23.000 The camera on the pen takes a photograph of the note.

02:51:27.000 Then when you go to the note, you go to the note, you put your pen on the note, and the audio recorder will play what you were talking about when you wrote that note.

02:51:35.000 Oh, wow.

02:51:36.000 Oh, wow.

02:51:37.000 So you could be in the middle of an interview, be in the middle of a conversation when you're on a podcast.

02:51:41.000 Like, there's a lot of times I have ideas.

02:51:44.000 Like, there was a, I was talking to this guy, Gad Saad, the guy you met, who was on the first podcast.

02:51:49.000 In the middle of it, I remembered this bit that I just stopped doing.

02:51:52.000 I just stopped doing it, but it was a great bit.

02:51:54.000 I was like, oh, my God, I've never put that on anything.

02:51:56.000 So I started writing down.

02:51:58.000 To have that ability to go back to that moment and know what you were thinking about when you wrote that down, you could save a lot of missed ideas that just sort of disappear out into the ether when you're having these long three-hour conversations.

02:52:14.000 I mean, that's just another new application of technology that's incredibly fascinating.

02:52:18.000 That's really cool.

02:52:19.000 Think about how many ideas we've all probably had that would be like life-changing, but then you forget it because the phone rings or something and never comes back. 0.99

02:52:26.000 Yeah, let me pull up whatever that fuck that pen is called. 1.00

02:52:29.000 And we're out of time. 1.00

02:52:31.000 We turned into a pumpkin.

02:52:32.000 Bro, we do a lot of podcasts here.

02:52:35.000 Let me see this.

02:52:37.000 I think I saw him there.

02:52:38.000 Do you know where you got it?

02:52:39.000 Because I think I saw him at Staples the other day.

02:52:41.000 No, I definitely got it online.

02:52:43.000 I got it on Amazon.com. 1.00

02:52:45.000 I don't fuck around, son. 0.99

02:52:47.000 I do everything online now. 1.00

02:52:48.000 I very rarely go to a store and buy shit. 0.98

02:52:51.000 I just love the idea. 0.99

02:52:52.000 It's just so weird to me that you can do that. 0.80

02:52:54.000 You can just fucking click on something and then all of a sudden it arrives at your house. 0.54

02:52:58.000 Man, it's going to be 3D printers pretty soon from everything people have been saying. 0.97

02:53:03.000 That's going to be really cool.

02:53:04.000 LiveScribe is what it's called.

02:53:06.000 LiveScribe, 8 gigabytes.

02:53:07.000 Got 8 gigabytes of storage.

02:53:09.000 Incredible.

02:53:11.000 It works with Wi-Fi.

02:53:12.000 Syncs up to your computer.

02:53:15.000 It's too much.

02:53:17.000 We live in the strangest times ever.

02:53:19.000 This is so weird.

02:53:20.000 Like every day, there's some new thing that comes out.

02:53:22.000 This is from an article I got where this guy was talking about shorthand.

02:53:26.000 You ever see guys writing that Greg shorthand?

02:53:29.000 That's what it's called.

02:53:30.000 Fascinating.

02:53:30.000 It's like they have this weird little shorthand language.

02:53:33.000 You can write like 290 words a minute.

02:53:35.000 If you're really good at it, you can whip through it.

02:53:37.000 So when someone's talking to you, you could literally get everything they say, and then you can go back to it and realize by reading your chicken scratch.

02:53:44.000 Have you ever seen it?

02:53:45.000 Yeah, reporters do it all the time. 0.99

02:53:46.000 Yeah, it's weird stuff, man.

02:53:48.000 Not a lot of reporters anymore, man.

02:53:50.000 The old school.

02:53:50.000 The old school reporter.

02:53:51.000 Most of the people now, they record things and then they write them down, then they fuck up everything you said because the conversation wasn't that clear and you make you go very dead.

02:54:01.000 I don't like written interviews for that reason.

02:54:03.000 Like, I don't like an article where it's just quoting that person.

02:54:05.000 Like, let's see the video.

02:54:07.000 Let's see how they came across.

02:54:08.000 Exactly my point about Anthony.

02:54:11.000 It goes back to my point about Opium Anthony.

02:54:13.000 Getting across what he said on Twitter with no humor, without him, without someone to talk to also.

02:54:20.000 That's the other thing about Anthony is the way he plays off of people.

02:54:24.000 You know, it would have been a way better way to handle that.

02:54:26.000 Putting sticks. 0.99

02:54:27.000 You know who else got fucked? 0.99

02:54:28.000 That Adam Richmond man versus food guy? 0.99

02:54:31.000 Yeah.

02:54:31.000 They yanked his show.

02:54:33.000 Very mild.

02:54:34.000 Very mild what he did.

02:54:36.000 Very mild.

02:54:38.000 He's talking about losing weight, and he wrote something about how much weight he needs to lose.

02:54:42.000 And he wrote thin spiration, like hashtag thinspiration.

02:54:45.000 And he started getting attacked by all these people that are apparently, it's in the, that's in the anorexia movement, this idea of thin spiration, this hashtag.

02:54:55.000 And he didn't know about this, so they started attacking him.

02:54:57.000 So see, he starts responding to them attacking him.

02:55:00.000 He tells this one guy to draw a bath and open your veins and do the society.

02:55:05.000 And they're like, that's it, dude.

02:55:06.000 You're done.

02:55:07.000 And they pull the show. 0.99

02:55:08.000 That sucks. 0.94

02:55:09.000 I actually like that guy's show a lot. 0.96

02:55:10.000 NBC just signed him up for a new show that starts like next month, though.

02:55:15.000 Well, he was on the travel channel.

02:55:17.000 They were rough with Anthony Bourdain.

02:55:17.000 They're rough.

02:55:19.000 They're rough with Burt Kreischer.

02:55:21.000 You know, Burt Kreischer allegedly, since Burt Kreischer doesn't smoke pot, this is all fiction.

02:55:26.000 But if he did smoke pot, he would have to do it off camera, right?

02:55:29.000 And hide it?

02:55:29.000 Right.

02:55:30.000 Yeah.

02:55:31.000 And Anthony Bourdain, he had a problem with them, too.

02:55:33.000 It's like, I don't know.

02:55:34.000 I think they're quite conservative.

02:55:37.000 So they weren't happy.

02:55:38.000 But meanwhile, homeboy, you didn't handle it so well either. 0.91

02:55:41.000 Why are you telling people to kill themselves?

02:55:42.000 Because they told you that Thin Spiration is an anorexia hashtag. 0.55

02:55:48.000 By the way, take it back.

02:55:50.000 Say we're taking back Thinspiration. 1.00

02:55:53.000 Fuck the anorexic. 1.00

02:55:55.000 That's what he should say. 1.00

02:55:56.000 I think a lot of these people just need to have in the contracts like, look, you're going to have a publicist that you have to send your tweets through if we're paying you this much money.

02:56:05.000 Because I know I even have almost said a few things.

02:56:07.000 And my girlfriend is a publicist.

02:56:09.000 It's like, don't say that.

02:56:10.000 Don't say that. 1.00

02:56:10.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

02:56:11.000 That's a standard thing now with television shows. 1.00

02:56:13.000 A lot of people, in contracts, they're asking for control of your social media.

02:56:18.000 It's super, super standard.

02:56:20.000 Like, they want access.

02:56:21.000 They want to be able to tweet for you.

02:56:22.000 They want to be able to tweet things.

02:56:24.000 It's a terrible idea.

02:56:25.000 I've had that request.

02:56:27.000 I've had that request.

02:56:27.000 It shouldn't be giving away your soul to somebody because really that's what you have to do.

02:56:31.000 Well, they were like, we're only going to use it for promotional purposes.

02:56:33.000 I'm like, you can't do that.

02:56:35.000 You can't say you're me.

02:56:37.000 Like, it tweets when I YouTube things. 0.99

02:56:39.000 People give me shit about that already. 0.89

02:56:41.000 Like, when all of our videos go up on YouTube, that's not me tweeting it. 0.99

02:56:45.000 It's an automatic thing when we upload it.

02:56:47.000 That stuff is useful.

02:56:48.000 That's different from your account to videos.

02:56:50.000 But my point is, even that doesn't cost anything.

02:56:53.000 It's just a link to YouTube. 0.98

02:56:55.000 People give me shit because it's not me. 0.98

02:56:57.000 They call it the Rogan bot. 0.99

02:56:59.000 What it should be, it should always be you, but it should have a filter where they approve it.

02:57:05.000 And then once they approve.

02:57:07.000 No, no, no.

02:57:08.000 No, I mean, it's almost instant.

02:57:11.000 Like every time you tweet, it automatically gets sent to somebody.

02:57:13.000 Yeah, it's fine.

02:57:15.000 But based on like, hey, you know, if this tweet were to go out, you would have been fired from this job.

02:57:22.000 But you can't give him that kind of power.

02:57:25.000 Especially a guy like Anthony, especially.

02:57:26.000 Well, you can't get arrested, then you can't lose a job from it, is what I'm saying.

02:57:31.000 I mean, if you're.

02:57:33.000 Listen, the two totally unrelated things.

02:57:35.000 What I'm saying is that he can't give them that because the audience doesn't want that. 0.98

02:57:40.000 One of the things that people love and that I love is that I know that we roll out that cunt animal. 1.00

02:57:45.000 That's him. 0.99

02:57:47.000 Right, wrong, bad, good.

02:57:49.000 It's coming directly from him.

02:57:50.000 If I really think that somebody had a green light, red light option, whether or not his tweets got through, that would be disgusting.

02:57:58.000 I don't want that.

02:57:59.000 I don't want anyone else involved in someone's tweets.

02:58:03.000 And giving them the, like when they asked me to do it, they were like, you know, we're just going to promote promotional things.

02:58:09.000 And I was like, how do I know what you're going to do?

02:58:11.000 And you're going to have access to, you can do whatever you want.

02:58:13.000 You can delete my tweets if you don't like them. 0.98

02:58:16.000 Like, what if I said something fucked up and I got on a plane? 0.86

02:58:18.000 They're like, well, we know you wanted to take that down. 0.97

02:58:20.000 Like, what?

02:58:21.000 I wanted to take that down.

02:58:22.000 I didn't want to take that down.

02:58:23.000 I meant that.

02:58:25.000 You can't have that.

02:58:26.000 No, that really is the only thing you have at the end of the day because shows and networks change a lot, especially for journalists, but definitely for entertainers too.

02:58:34.000 All that stuff changes.

02:58:35.000 All you have is your reputation with the public. 1.00

02:58:37.000 And if they trash that with a bunch of bullshit, these companies are not that smart. 0.99

02:58:41.000 Like I see some companies on Twitter, you're like, this is... 1.00

02:58:44.000 They don't care about your vision.

02:58:46.000 Yeah, we're out of time, David Seaman.

02:58:49.000 Dude.

02:58:49.000 Thanks again.

02:58:50.000 Fucking anytime, man. 0.98

02:58:51.000 We got to do this more often. 0.99

02:58:53.000 The last one was only like, what, two months ago?

02:58:55.000 Yeah, a month and a half or something.

02:58:57.000 That's how we'll do it.

02:58:59.000 We're hitting this time where things change so exponentially fast.

02:59:04.000 It seems so frantic and frenzied.

02:59:05.000 We need you as often as possible.

02:59:07.000 Goodbye, everybody.

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The Joe Rogan Experience - July 08, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #520 - David Seaman

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