The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #559 - Keith Weber

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00:00:19.000 Keith Weber, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:21.000 Finally we meet.

00:00:22.000 I've worked out to your voice many times.

00:00:24.000 Your sleek, athletic body on the beach, slinging kettlebells, making people work out along.

00:00:31.000 And we got you on the podcast, man.

00:00:33.000 I've been talking about your videos for I don't know how long.

00:00:35.000 I don't even know where I found it.

00:00:36.000 I found it somewhere online.

00:00:38.000 I was looking for some video to work out to, and it was so badass that we started selling it at Onnit.com.

00:00:45.000 It became our best-selling DVD. You were constantly out of stock because we were selling them out for you.

00:00:51.000 But it's a fucking awesome video, man, so it's good to have you on. 0.76

00:00:54.000 Thanks for having me, Joe. 0.95

00:00:55.000 It's amazing to be here.

00:00:56.000 What's the book? 0.98

00:00:57.000 You've got notes and shit. 0.97

00:00:59.000 Well, I thought I should, just in case I forget something. 0.92

00:01:02.000 What would you want to bring up that you had to write down?

00:01:06.000 Well, you know, I thought I'd be really nervous and I thought maybe there'd be some important stuff I forgot about.

00:01:12.000 There's some parts of the video that are really hilarious that I didn't want to forget to mention because I've looked on the internet about some of the comments people put and most of them are actually positive, the ones I've read.

00:01:26.000 And there's a few that are quite hilarious.

00:01:29.000 The most hilarious ones are obviously the negative ones.

00:01:33.000 Yeah, the closer you can get to this thing, the better, because it's very directional.

00:01:38.000 Oh, yeah.

00:01:38.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:01:40.000 Yeah, you're always going to get negative comments, man, no matter what.

00:01:42.000 Especially if it's a workout TV. This workout's too hard!

00:01:45.000 I'm not a meathead!

00:01:46.000 I'm just someone looking to be fit!

00:01:49.000 I don't like the way he works out.

00:01:50.000 He tells me what to do.

00:01:52.000 I got sand in my eyes when I did his workout on the beach.

00:01:57.000 The beach is a good place to work out, though, because you get that feeling of humbleness.

00:02:02.000 You're connected to that ocean behind you, and also just the roar of the ocean and the feeling of the sand, and it's a great surface.

00:02:12.000 It's a super good surface to run on.

00:02:14.000 If I think more people lived by the beach, we'd have a nicer, sweeter world.

00:02:18.000 I agree.

00:02:20.000 The thing that blows me away, we always go on holidays at least two or three times a year to a tropical place because my wife and I and the kids love the beach.

00:02:29.000 Powerful white people.

00:02:31.000 Powerful white privilege.

00:02:32.000 Three times a year vacation.

00:02:35.000 There's a story behind that.

00:02:37.000 And when I see people running down the beach with running shoes, I just want to tackle them and fix their feet.

00:02:45.000 You want to fix their feet? 0.91

00:02:46.000 Yeah, because feet are fixable.

00:02:48.000 What's wrong with most people in running shoes?

00:02:50.000 Running shoes are just bad for you?

00:02:53.000 I wouldn't run a marathon without running shoes.

00:02:56.000 Like, that would be crazy.

00:02:58.000 Because of the pounding?

00:02:59.000 Well, yeah.

00:03:00.000 You know, have you ever read the book Chi Running or Born to Run?

00:03:04.000 Anything like that?

00:03:05.000 I've never read anything on running because there was a great comic named Bill Hicks who used to make fun of Jim Fix, the guy who had the running books.

00:03:05.000 No.

00:03:13.000 Right.

00:03:13.000 Because he was like, what are you writing about?

00:03:14.000 Left, right, left, right.

00:03:17.000 Done.

00:03:18.000 Faster, faster.

00:03:19.000 Yeah.

00:03:21.000 It's amazing because we're in Venice Beach right now and a lot of people run in Venice Beach and I totally get why runners get a bad rap sometimes because a lot of people are running that really shouldn't be running.

00:03:33.000 Like in what way?

00:03:34.000 They're not strong enough.

00:03:35.000 They're just not in shape enough to be running?

00:03:38.000 Yeah, and you really need to have a lot of strength to run properly.

00:03:43.000 And how so?

00:03:43.000 Really?

00:03:44.000 If you would take someone and they were thinking about starting out a workout routine, you would not recommend just running?

00:03:50.000 Never.

00:03:50.000 Never?

00:03:51.000 Really?

00:03:51.000 Interesting.

00:03:52.000 What would you recommend?

00:03:55.000 I wouldn't even recommend kettlebells right off the get-go unless you know what you're doing and you have a good trainer.

00:04:01.000 I would recommend someone that's just fresh off the couch and they don't want to hurt themselves.

00:04:06.000 Find somebody that can teach you how to do some compound lifting.

00:04:10.000 Learn how to do squats again.

00:04:11.000 Learn how to do deadlifts properly.

00:04:13.000 Maybe learn how to do a pull-up.

00:04:15.000 Maybe learn how to do a push-up properly.

00:04:18.000 All those basic old-school exercises are so powerful.

00:04:22.000 Do you deal often with people that are starting from scratch?

00:04:26.000 Because that seems to me to be a very daunting proposition for some folks who have been kind of couch potatoes their whole life, and then all of a sudden they're like, you know what, goddammit, I want to get fit.

00:04:34.000 I really want to do something.

00:04:36.000 Like, I have a buddy who's really big, and he's been telling me lately, he does a lot of shooting competitions, like he does those tactical things where you run through a maze and you have to shoot at targets.

00:04:46.000 But he's too big.

00:04:47.000 He's like, goddammit, I've got to lose some weight.

00:04:49.000 But I can tell it's hard to just start doing that.

00:04:53.000 It's hard to just change your lifestyle.

00:04:56.000 We have patterns that we fall into. 0.99

00:04:57.000 You know, you got your average everyday pattern, you get up in the morning, you eat some unhealthy shit, you go to an office, you sit in a cubicle, whatever you do, it's really hard to say, today after work at 6.30, I'm going to go and do jumping jacks and push-ups and chin-ups and I'm going to get my shit together. 0.99

00:05:13.000 Exactly. 0.95

00:05:14.000 And honestly, that is the main impetus for the video in the first place.

00:05:18.000 And I come across people that I treat all the time that are, Keith, I want to get into shape and, you know, how do I do it?

00:05:25.000 And that's what I do love about the kettlebells.

00:05:27.000 In a perfect world, I would have them learn how to do the compound lift slowly.

00:05:31.000 But the kettlebells provide the same idea, same movement patterns without having to put a bunch of weight onto your body.

00:05:38.000 It's amazing the inertia and the momentum created by these things.

00:05:38.000 Right.

00:05:44.000 Yeah, so I do get a lot of people in my kettlebell classes that are starting fresh.

00:05:50.000 Like, amazing.

00:05:52.000 The women that come.

00:05:54.000 Usually it's women. 1.00

00:05:55.000 I don't know why.

00:05:57.000 Guys don't like to go out of that comfort zone, maybe.

00:06:00.000 You think that's what it is?

00:06:02.000 Well, maybe just a handsome guy with long blonde hair and chicks looking to hook up. 1.00

00:06:05.000 I see you and they go, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:06:08.000 I need to get him to teach me how to work out and work my way into his life. 1.00

00:06:13.000 No, I don't think that's what it is.

00:06:15.000 You don't think that's what it is?

00:06:15.000 I honestly think women have a different mentality.

00:06:17.000 I have a buddy I run hills with just a couple blocks from our house.

00:06:21.000 It's a perfect hill. 1.00

00:06:22.000 If you bust your ass, it'll take you about two minutes. 1.00

00:06:26.000 20 seconds to get to the top. 1.00

00:06:27.000 That's absolutely giving it everything you have.

00:06:29.000 So it's kind of the perfect length of a hill.

00:06:31.000 It kind of taps into that mid-range energy system.

00:06:34.000 And there's mornings, every morning in the summer, there's a group of women If this playground nearby at 6 a.m., like 20 of them doing boot camps and push-ups and burpees and things like that, you'd never see 20 guys doing that.

00:06:48.000 At least I haven't.

00:06:50.000 You would if they were in the military.

00:06:51.000 Good point.

00:06:52.000 That'd be probably it, but yeah.

00:06:54.000 Like just on their own will and desire to be in good shape, most guys, unless they're professional athletes, if they're just the average guy that wants to look good and be like that guy in the fitness magazine, They don't like being in public,

00:07:10.000 almost, I think.

00:07:12.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:07:13.000 Like, women don't mind working out at a park, like getting all together. 1.00

00:07:16.000 Yeah, they love that.

00:07:17.000 Yeah.

00:07:18.000 Well, I think they're a bit more social than us.

00:07:20.000 A little more social.

00:07:23.000 It goes back to the hunter-gatherer thing or something.

00:07:26.000 It probably does. 0.99

00:07:27.000 Gatherers, they sat around and talked while the hunters were out being really quiet, sneaking up on shit. 0.99

00:07:31.000 I've heard that, but I don't know if it's true, but... 0.98

00:07:34.000 Yeah, they talk a little bit about that in the book Born to Run.

00:07:38.000 Even as a non-runner, I recommend that book to everybody because it will make you want to try running.

00:07:45.000 And running on the beach should be done barefoot?

00:07:48.000 I believe so.

00:07:49.000 Yeah.

00:07:50.000 That's the way we're all supposed to run anyway, right?

00:07:52.000 We're not supposed to run the way most people think because of those running shoes that you're supposed to go heel first.

00:07:58.000 Right.

00:07:59.000 Because they've sort of changed people's gaits.

00:08:01.000 With these shoes, with this big fat pad near the heel, which is really unnatural, correct?

00:08:07.000 Like, the way the foot is designed, you're supposed to land on the ball of the foot, and the foot is actually supposed to act as a bit of a shock absorber to slowly decelerate your weight, and that is how a natural gait is supposed to be performed when you're running, right?

00:08:21.000 Yeah, and there's actually, there have been studies done where they've taken people and they've blindfolded them and looked at their gait patterns, And then they've put these big runners on and they have a very similar gait pattern.

00:08:34.000 It's almost like you take away that sensory ability of all those thousands of nerve endings in the bottom of the foot to actually feel what's going on so your body subconsciously puts the brakes on and makes you heel strike.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, the heel strike thing really didn't happen until, what was it, the 1970s or something like that, when they came out with those running shoes?

00:08:53.000 Isn't it amazing that they virtually changed the entire country, or really all over the world, the gait of people when they run by putting a big fat pad on the heel?

00:09:04.000 Like, we never had that before.

00:09:05.000 No, and it does.

00:09:07.000 It creates a terribly unnatural gait.

00:09:10.000 And it leads to a lot of injuries.

00:09:12.000 But there are a lot of people that, even if they started running in a perfect scenario with the right shoes and everything, if they're not strong enough, it's going to lead to some problems.

00:09:23.000 It really is important.

00:09:24.000 And it's one of the things that I always stress when I talk to people about the Onnit.com products that we sell, the kettlebells or the...

00:09:30.000 Like the steel clubs, things along those lines.

00:09:33.000 I'm like, please, just start slowly.

00:09:35.000 Men don't want to pick up an 18-pound kettlebell. 1.00

00:09:37.000 They're like, boy, fucking bitch. 1.00

00:09:39.000 I can work out with more. 1.00

00:09:40.000 But your video with a 35-pound kettlebell kicks my ass. 0.99

00:09:45.000 Just 35 pounds. 1.00

00:09:46.000 You think that's not that big.

00:09:47.000 It's like a four-year-old.

00:09:51.000 Women carry four-year-olds in their arm. 0.99

00:09:53.000 My wife carries our four-year-old all the time.

00:09:54.000 She's about 35 pounds. 1.00

00:09:56.000 I mean, that's all that is.

00:09:57.000 And you're doing this workout, and at the beginning, it seems like, wow, this is not that hard. 0.94

00:10:02.000 But then a minute in, you're like, holy shit, how long is this going to be? 0.68

00:10:06.000 And then you realize that just one kettlebell, just one simple 35-pound kettlebell, if you follow your workout, you can get an absolutely brutal routine in. 0.95

00:10:17.000 Yeah, it's kind of, for me, it's a measuring stick.

00:10:22.000 I like to use my video at least once a month to test myself, make sure I'm not getting lazy or kind of starting to fall off the rails because I'm just like everyone else.

00:10:32.000 If I don't stay with it, I can get, you know, a little bit lazy.

00:10:35.000 Yeah, everybody can if they don't have some sort of a goal, right?

00:10:38.000 Yeah.

00:10:39.000 That's one of the cool things about your video is just you have to keep up with it.

00:10:42.000 I bought a bunch of videos before that were excellent, like Maxwell has a bunch of videos and Mike Mahler has a bunch of videos.

00:10:49.000 Mike Mahler is very much into technique and showing the fundamentals of the movements and things along those lines. 0.80

00:10:54.000 But what I really liked about yours is just you have to already know that shit and it's just hardcore, ready, go, let's do this. 0.97

00:11:02.000 And that was the big thing. 0.98

00:11:04.000 When I first started doing kettlebells, I think in 2002, I think I took their second instructor's course with Dragondor.

00:11:13.000 Yeah, there weren't any videos out there for people that knew what they were doing.

00:11:18.000 And so I bought every video in the book.

00:11:21.000 And I shouldn't say that.

00:11:21.000 There were a couple that were...

00:11:23.000 For people that knew what they were doing.

00:11:25.000 But they were, I just don't think they wanted to hurt anybody.

00:11:28.000 Right.

00:11:29.000 And I had seen, I'd been teaching kettlebells by the time I made that first video for at least three years.

00:11:34.000 And I'd seen what these, again, mostly women, housewives that were coming fresh off, not exercising, and what they were putting themselves through. 1.00

00:11:43.000 And they weren't getting hurt, they were just getting in really good shape.

00:11:46.000 And so I thought, I'm going to put a video together like we do in class.

00:11:50.000 And I did have a lot of requests from people saying, make a video.

00:11:54.000 I can't make it to your class.

00:11:55.000 I'd love to have something to just pop into the DVD player at home.

00:11:58.000 It would be awesome if there was something like a class or something, like a really common class.

00:12:15.000 Yeah.

00:12:21.000 There's a place you could go for folks who are just cubicle jockeys, you know, what have you.

00:12:21.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:26.000 People that are like, you know what?

00:12:27.000 I just need something different.

00:12:29.000 This isn't it.

00:12:30.000 I'm going to take this class.

00:12:31.000 I'm going to work out for the first time.

00:12:32.000 Like a first-timer workout program.

00:12:35.000 That would be awesome.

00:12:36.000 And I think, honestly, kettlebells give you that.

00:12:39.000 That's the closest thing you could ever get to something for everybody.

00:12:43.000 Because it's a lightweight program.

00:12:47.000 It's such an equal stress on the body.

00:12:50.000 You go to the gym, you'll do bench press and arms, and the next day you can't move.

00:12:54.000 Your pecs and arms are just fried, whereas the kettlebell, your whole body is fried, but not to the extent you can't move.

00:13:00.000 Move, as long as you're sensible about it.

00:13:02.000 You're moving it all together, all as one unit.

00:13:07.000 I always find that it translates the best to actual athletics, too.

00:13:11.000 When you do things like deadlifts or squats or any big compound movement, it translates.

00:13:18.000 You actually feel physically stronger when you do something like martial arts or grappling, things along those lines.

00:13:24.000 I think that has a lot to do with the acceleration, too.

00:13:27.000 That's the goal.

00:13:28.000 Exercise, I love the thrust.

00:13:30.000 It's an exercise I love to hate.

00:13:32.000 Because you have to develop a lot of acceleration to get that kettlebell over your head, especially when you're getting tired.

00:13:38.000 That's why I like to put the thrusters after you've kind of done a couple of exercises to fry the legs and shoulders. 0.99

00:13:43.000 I think the man-maker, I think it's...

00:13:46.000 I think it starts out with...

00:13:48.000 It actually starts out with a thruster.

00:13:50.000 But a lot of the other chapters, I kind of slide it in there when you're really fatigued and it forces you to get that acceleration.

00:13:58.000 And then that translates over to the strength.

00:14:00.000 Did you ever work one-on-one with any MMA athletes?

00:14:04.000 I did, like we were talking about, I did work a little bit with Jason.

00:14:09.000 Jason McDonald.

00:14:10.000 Yeah.

00:14:10.000 We were talking about before the show.

00:14:11.000 And we went for...

00:14:15.000 I'm not sure how many workouts.

00:14:17.000 At least half a dozen.

00:14:18.000 Because he trains.

00:14:19.000 He was training like twice a day.

00:14:22.000 So these were just sort of to supplement his training.

00:14:26.000 But I think it was a little much with everything else he was doing.

00:14:31.000 But I think he won his next fight, so maybe it helped.

00:14:33.000 That is a big issue with MMA fighters.

00:14:36.000 It's like doing just the right amount.

00:14:38.000 Like you don't want to do too much so that you're burnt out when it comes to your skill training later on the night.

00:14:43.000 Like when it comes to like technique, martial arts technique.

00:14:46.000 But a lot of guys do like to do their strength and conditioning first to wear themselves out so that when they do their sparring, they try to be more technical because they're already exhausted and they can't use strength.

00:14:56.000 There's like two schools of thought when it comes to that.

00:14:58.000 You know, there's like one school of thought that says you should roll really tired.

00:15:03.000 And then there's another school of thought that says you should do all of your strength and conditioning after you've done all your technique work.

00:15:09.000 So your technique could be Like, as sharp as a razor.

00:15:12.000 And then after, you can worry about getting sloppy when you're running up hills.

00:15:15.000 Yeah, you know, and that's really...

00:15:17.000 It carries over almost to the strength training world as well, specifically.

00:15:22.000 Like, I know Pavel Satsalun.

00:15:24.000 He's very much into strength with kettlebells.

00:15:27.000 He's one of the guys that brought kettlebells to America, right?

00:15:29.000 Yeah.

00:15:30.000 I think he was teamed up with John Duquesne.

00:15:32.000 And they sort of collaborated.

00:15:34.000 And I think the story goes...

00:15:38.000 John said he would publish a book for Pavel if he would sort of bring kettlebells to America and let him manufacture them.

00:15:46.000 What year was this?

00:15:48.000 It must have been like late 90s.

00:15:50.000 So before then, no kettlebells in America?

00:15:53.000 I think there were.

00:15:54.000 I think there were, but...

00:15:55.000 A few.

00:15:56.000 I don't think it was as mainstream.

00:15:57.000 I mean, I don't think...

00:15:58.000 I think it was one of those things that probably sat at the back of a gym and hadn't been touched in 20 years because no one knew what to do with this.

00:16:05.000 Right.

00:16:06.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:16:07.000 That something could be around in Russia for so long and didn't make it to America in the 90s.

00:16:12.000 That's so weird.

00:16:15.000 When they first came out with kettlebells, they had 16, 24, and 32 kilogram sizes.

00:16:23.000 That's it.

00:16:25.000 I came across kettlebells...

00:16:27.000 Actually, Pavel would put articles in the odd...

00:16:30.000 I don't know if you remember the magazine Muscle Media 2000. No.

00:16:35.000 Bill Phillips published that one.

00:16:37.000 He was the guy that first came out with the 12-week body transformation challenge.

00:16:42.000 And you could win a car.

00:16:44.000 It was through EAS supplements.

00:16:47.000 Anyway, I was in terrible shape.

00:16:50.000 My son was just born, so I wanted to hang out at home with him and didn't go to the gym for like eight months.

00:16:57.000 At all?

00:16:59.000 Maybe once a week I'd go and I'd felt more and more pathetic every time I'd go. 0.98

00:17:03.000 It was horrible. 0.68

00:17:04.000 My son has a theory about that.

00:17:07.000 So I was in really rough shape.

00:17:10.000 And I remember people that knew me were saying, hey man, you should do this body transformation challenge.

00:17:15.000 And in my mind, I was still in awesome shape.

00:17:17.000 I mean, oh yeah, good idea.

00:17:19.000 I think, why is everyone telling me this?

00:17:21.000 But the key to that program was you're supposed to take a before picture.

00:17:25.000 And I remember my wife took a before picture of me in the middle of winter, you know, didn't have UV light for four months at least, and I looked horrible.

00:17:34.000 I actually...

00:17:35.000 You saved it?

00:17:36.000 I saved it.

00:17:37.000 Yeah, I actually carried it around on my phone.

00:17:38.000 Just to let you know how far you've come?

00:17:40.000 Well, and just even to remind me to stay disciplined.

00:17:44.000 Right.

00:17:45.000 Because, like I said, I'm just like everyone else.

00:17:48.000 I can fall off the wagon pretty easily, but...

00:17:51.000 So you took this before picture, and then you did the challenge.

00:17:54.000 Yeah, and then I fell in love with the whole Bill Phillips muscle media concept and read every magazine cover to cover, and I sent my pictures into muscle media, and I didn't win anything.

00:18:07.000 I might have won a sports bag or something like that, but the after pictures were quite...

00:18:16.000 Astounding, comparatively.

00:18:17.000 And I will admit, you know, I had a bit of a tan and I maybe got a haircut.

00:18:21.000 You primped yourself up a little bit for the after picture?

00:18:24.000 A little bit, but not to the point where a lot of people I knew that were doing the challenge did.

00:18:28.000 Because I think that's just so not genuine.

00:18:31.000 Like there was one guy, he was dehydrating himself for three days so he'd look more ripped.

00:18:35.000 Oh.

00:18:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:37.000 And there's another guy that, you know, was taken like...

00:18:42.000 Loads of creatine so we could get pumped up a little bit more.

00:18:45.000 That's one of the things that everybody used to love about Fedor.

00:18:48.000 Fedor Emelianenko, the former Pride champion and one of the greatest mixed martial artists ever, is that he was always kind of dumpy. 1.00

00:18:56.000 He had like a little gut, like a little spare time.

00:18:59.000 Always like thick, big thick Russian dude, but never worried about what he looked like. 1.00

00:19:04.000 He was just fit.

00:19:06.000 And he was always in great shape, too, which is really kind of astounding.

00:19:09.000 Like, the guy never gassed out.

00:19:11.000 I mean, he was always in excellent shape. 1.00

00:19:12.000 And, you know, never had a six-pack in his fucking life. 0.99

00:19:16.000 Not one time while he was fighting, at least. 0.99

00:19:18.000 Yeah, well, that's one thing with the sport I'm sort of doing now, at least in the summer.

00:19:22.000 Our summers are really short, so I think that's why I do triathlon now.

00:19:26.000 You live in Alberta?

00:19:28.000 In Alberta, yeah.

00:19:28.000 The summer is like a week long.

00:19:31.000 You have a very short summer.

00:19:33.000 Yeah, and what we do get is oftentimes not so great.

00:19:37.000 It's so beautiful up there, though, man.

00:19:38.000 It is.

00:19:39.000 Oh, God.

00:19:39.000 I was up there in June.

00:19:40.000 It's amazing.

00:19:41.000 It's so gorgeous.

00:19:42.000 So much trees and animal life and everything up there.

00:19:45.000 Yeah, it's very natural.

00:19:47.000 Yeah.

00:19:48.000 So anyway, you're saying your winter times.

00:19:52.000 Summer's very short.

00:19:53.000 Summer's short, and never judge a book by its cover.

00:19:56.000 That's where I was going with that.

00:19:57.000 Like, you'll have people doing these triathlons that are in front of you for most of the race, and they're huge, and they don't have the typical athlete body type at all.

00:20:08.000 And they're just like thick guys that should be playing rugby or something like that, and they're still fast.

00:20:13.000 So they must have a powerful engine under there to cart that carcass around that's 50 pounds heavier than me.

00:20:21.000 And also probably heavier than it should be, right?

00:20:24.000 I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are in really good shape, but they're fat.

00:20:28.000 You know?

00:20:29.000 Like, I know this dude, I won't say his name, but he's a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.

00:20:32.000 He's got a big, fat belly. 0.99

00:20:34.000 But that fucking guy doesn't get tired, man. 1.00

00:20:36.000 You roll with him, he knows how to conserve energy, and he's under that belly, he's strong as shit. 1.00

00:20:41.000 Like, his core and his legs and everything, he's very physically strong. 0.99

00:20:44.000 But he's just got a lot of fucking pizza in his body. 0.99

00:20:50.000 Yeah, actually, I was thinking about that the other day. 0.99

00:20:54.000 Because people ask me a lot about what I eat.

00:20:56.000 I don't think I eat particularly crazy in terms of discipline until I hang out with someone that I always wonder about.

00:21:05.000 And I won't say any names here, but there's a couple of buddies I have that do triathlons, they're working out all the time, they're doing stuff, but they got a little bit extra.

00:21:15.000 And so all I need to do is go for a bike ride with them.

00:21:19.000 We're going to go for a two or three hour long bike ride to find out why.

00:21:23.000 And during these bike rides, these guys will consume, like I'm not even hungry and we're into one hour of the ride.

00:21:29.000 I'm just starting to warm up.

00:21:30.000 And these guys are, they've already chowed down an energy bar.

00:21:34.000 They're drinking this sugary Cytomax or whatever type solution with electrolytes in it.

00:21:40.000 Right.

00:21:41.000 And it's just like a feast.

00:21:43.000 This three-hour bike ride turns into some sort of like Christmas dinner.

00:21:48.000 And they do that every time they train.

00:21:50.000 And it's almost, I don't know what caused it, if it's like a human survival instinct that I'm exercising.

00:21:56.000 So...

00:21:58.000 You know, I gotta keep pounding food in or what?

00:22:00.000 I think it's just because they have the food.

00:22:02.000 It's right there.

00:22:03.000 You know, there was some study recently about rehydrating, and they were talking about how much more people rehydrate if they're around things that taste good.

00:22:13.000 Like if you have sugary drinks, like a Gatorade-type drink, how much more you'll drink than if it's just water.

00:22:19.000 Right.

00:22:20.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:22:20.000 We're just gross. 0.93

00:22:21.000 We're gross and slovenly. 0.95

00:22:24.000 And sugars, like those simple sugars, like those are really not good for you.

00:22:27.000 I mean, you can get away with eating them after you work out because your body is sort of glucose craving. 0.67

00:22:33.000 But the reality of those kind of sports drinks and stuff like that, it's like, they're not fucking healthy for you at all. 0.80

00:22:39.000 Those are corn syrup. 0.77

00:22:40.000 Well, look who owns them.

00:22:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:42.000 I think they're motherfuckers. 1.00

00:22:44.000 Well, I think most of those sports drinks are owned by companies that produce soft drinks. 1.00

00:22:49.000 Right.

00:22:49.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:22:49.000 A lot of them are, for sure.

00:22:51.000 A lot of them are, for sure.

00:22:52.000 But they say that chocolate milk is the best thing to drink right after your workout.

00:22:55.000 Is that true?

00:22:57.000 I guess it depends who you talk to.

00:22:58.000 And I think this is based on some studies that they've done.

00:23:02.000 But if you talk to anyone that's into Chinese medicine, or like my wife's really into Ayurvedic medicine, milk is the demon.

00:23:11.000 It's like, what do they say?

00:23:12.000 They say it's drinking pus.

00:23:15.000 Milk is drinking pus?

00:23:16.000 Yeah.

00:23:17.000 How's it drinking puss?

00:23:18.000 They hate milk. 0.96

00:23:19.000 Who are these people?

00:23:20.000 Well, anyone...

00:23:21.000 Have they ever eaten cookies? 1.00

00:23:23.000 Because milk without cookies is just bullshit. 0.99

00:23:26.000 Or cookies without milk, rather. 0.99

00:23:28.000 Yeah, there's a lot of people into this method of eating and, you know, eating for your body type and everything.

00:23:36.000 And anyone that's...

00:23:37.000 There's three things in Chinese medicine that cause a lot of phlegm.

00:23:40.000 Right.

00:23:40.000 And in Chinese medicine, phlegm is not only what you hack up when you're exercising, but also...

00:23:46.000 Energy blockages in the system.

00:23:48.000 So, the top of the list is dairy.

00:23:52.000 Second is peanuts.

00:23:53.000 And third are bananas.

00:23:55.000 You can't eat peanuts and you can't eat bananas?

00:23:57.000 No. 1.00

00:23:57.000 What kind of communist bullshit is this? 1.00

00:24:00.000 What are they trying to say, huh? 1.00

00:24:02.000 Bananas?

00:24:03.000 I know. 0.99

00:24:04.000 What the fuck is wrong with bananas, man? 1.00

00:24:06.000 I don't know if I buy this Chinese medicine shit. 1.00

00:24:08.000 Are they the people that brought you rhino horns for hard-ons? 1.00

00:24:11.000 Isn't that the same, folks?

00:24:12.000 It is.

00:24:13.000 Yeah, they do all sorts of crazy stuff.

00:24:15.000 Tiger bone, make you strong.

00:24:17.000 No, it won't. 1.00

00:24:17.000 Just kill the fucking tiger. 1.00

00:24:20.000 Dumbass. 1.00

00:24:21.000 Yeah, so I take all this stuff with a grain of salt. 1.00

00:24:23.000 Yeah.

00:24:24.000 Yeah, you should take it all with a couple grains of salt.

00:24:27.000 Salt's good for you, but...

00:24:29.000 Tiger bone, not so much.

00:24:31.000 Are you into that kind of acupuncture, acupressure, all that stuff?

00:24:36.000 Yeah, we do that at our clinic.

00:24:38.000 What kind of evidence is there that that stuff works?

00:24:42.000 Has there ever been peer-reviewed studies on acupuncture?

00:24:45.000 Especially in Asia.

00:24:47.000 There are a lot of studies in Asia.

00:24:49.000 When I took the course initially, there was a lot of, again, studies from Asia that indicate, like MRI studies where they're taking an MRI of a person's brain and poking needles in different points and they're showing like Major brain activity in different parts of the brain.

00:25:05.000 I've never understood it, but I've always looked at it curiously.

00:25:08.000 Because I'm like, wow, so many people for so many years have been sticking needles into themselves.

00:25:11.000 There's probably something to it.

00:25:13.000 But, you know, I've heard people criticize yoga.

00:25:16.000 And one of the things they say about yoga is that it's just stretching.

00:25:19.000 Like my friend Penn Jillette from Penn& Teller. 0.99

00:25:21.000 They did this episode of Penn Jillette's bullshit. 1.00

00:25:25.000 Penn and Teller's bullshit. 1.00

00:25:26.000 Remember that show? 1.00

00:25:27.000 Yeah.

00:25:28.000 And they did one on yoga, where they were like, it's just stretching.

00:25:30.000 And they were showing, and I wanted to say, listen man, this ain't cool.

00:25:34.000 You guys are out of shape.

00:25:36.000 You're not really working out.

00:25:38.000 If you do yoga...

00:25:40.000 It doesn't seem like it's anything more than stretching, but if you do yoga, you get high.

00:25:44.000 That's just a fact.

00:25:45.000 If you do like a Bikram's class, you do like a 90 minute yoga class, you will feel high at the end of it.

00:25:52.000 It's just a fact.

00:25:53.000 That is unavoidable.

00:25:55.000 I mean, you can't deny that.

00:25:56.000 It's undeniable.

00:25:57.000 And to say that that's just stretching, that all you're doing is just moving your body around, man, I don't think so. 1.00

00:26:03.000 Those skinny little motherfuckers from India have been doing that shit for a thousand years for a reason. 1.00

00:26:07.000 There's something to it. 1.00

00:26:08.000 They've figured out something.

00:26:10.000 They've figured out some way to tap into your endorphin system in some major way so that you get a big reward when you do like a long yoga class.

00:26:18.000 It's a very peace sort of inducing movement or a series of movements.

00:26:23.000 Well, and it goes...

00:26:26.000 A lot of these systems coincide with each other.

00:26:31.000 So with Chinese medicine...

00:26:32.000 They do Qi Gong.

00:26:34.000 And so that's all about bringing the breath in.

00:26:37.000 With the breath comes our Qi.

00:26:39.000 Is that like breath of fire?

00:26:40.000 Is that the same thing?

00:26:41.000 Yeah, that's a variation of it.

00:26:43.000 Qi Gong is more for healing yourself through energy cultivation.

00:26:47.000 So you're bringing the energy in through your lungs, and then you're doing certain movements.

00:26:52.000 Or Tai Chi is another good example.

00:26:53.000 And you're stretching those energy meridians that go through your body.

00:26:57.000 While you're breathing in.

00:26:58.000 So the in-breath brings the chi in, and then you do these particular movements that forces that chi down your meridians.

00:27:06.000 But what is chi, though?

00:27:07.000 Has anybody ever shown chi in an MRI? What's going on when you're saying you're forcing your chi?

00:27:13.000 Is it circulation?

00:27:15.000 Is it just your focus, your energy?

00:27:18.000 What is it?

00:27:19.000 It is that, and it's also, I believe that they've shown that there are electromagnetic forces going across our skin.

00:27:26.000 Apparently they found acupuncture points in cadavers.

00:27:29.000 Really?

00:27:29.000 Too late.

00:27:32.000 It's not going to help.

00:27:34.000 Stick all the needles in you want.

00:27:37.000 An acupuncture point is actually an area of lower energy resistance, lower electrical resistance.

00:27:43.000 And we all have them, and they're all in the same place.

00:27:47.000 So, when they're using needles and they're sticking them in various parts of your body, like, how do they know where to stick them?

00:27:54.000 What is it based on?

00:27:56.000 Mostly it's based on, believe it or not, your body dimensions.

00:28:00.000 So, your body dimensions would be different than mine, so I would...

00:28:04.000 Figure that out by using my hand.

00:28:06.000 So the width of my hand from these knuckles here would be three chun, three Chinese inches. 0.94

00:28:12.000 Now, your hand might be bigger than mine, so I would use this part of the knuckles for the three chun. 1.00

00:28:19.000 This part here?

00:28:20.000 Okay.

00:28:20.000 Yeah.

00:28:21.000 And if you, say, had a smaller hand, I would use these knuckles here.

00:28:25.000 How would you know when to decide?

00:28:27.000 Like, what if you got a medium hand?

00:28:29.000 You don't want to be off with your needle placement.

00:28:32.000 Well, acupuncture points are about the size of a dime.

00:28:35.000 Okay.

00:28:36.000 So there's a bit of wiggle room there.

00:28:37.000 But I think a lot of these people that do it all the time, and the people that are real hardcore Chinese medical practitioners, I think they almost have a sense of where the energy is.

00:28:48.000 Did you ever see that movie where Steven Seagal was in a coma for a long time, and they put some acupuncture needles in, and he came out of that coma and started fucking people up?

00:28:56.000 He gave himself the acupuncture needles. 0.57

00:28:58.000 Yeah, with the moxa.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, with the glowing incense at the end of it.

00:29:02.000 Is that what it's called?

00:29:02.000 Moxa?

00:29:03.000 When we took our Chinese minute, we took a few courses, but the best one we took was at the nearby university, right where you did your show.

00:29:13.000 In Edmonton?

00:29:13.000 In Edmonton.

00:29:14.000 And the guy there, Dr. Ong, is a master.

00:29:17.000 He comes from many generations of Chinese medical doctors.

00:29:21.000 And he's from Burma originally, but he's also a Western medical doctor.

00:29:25.000 So he kind of has a nice perspective on things.

00:29:28.000 He's not just one-sided.

00:29:30.000 But he loved Moxa.

00:29:33.000 He liked that stuff for it.

00:29:35.000 And it smells...

00:29:36.000 It's sage.

00:29:37.000 Okay.

00:29:38.000 Why do they call it Moxa then?

00:29:39.000 Why don't you call it sage?

00:29:40.000 That's with all the names.

00:29:42.000 For real people.

00:29:43.000 Call it sage.

00:29:44.000 Moxa.

00:29:45.000 Sounds cool.

00:29:46.000 Someone copywriting Moxa?

00:29:48.000 Trying to sell it?

00:29:49.000 Is it Moxa TM? So you take this sage and you put it at the end of the needle.

00:29:54.000 What purpose does it serve at the end of the needle?

00:29:56.000 More chi.

00:29:56.000 I've always wondered that.

00:29:57.000 More chi.

00:29:58.000 So it's taking it right into the...

00:30:00.000 I'm out.

00:30:01.000 That's where I'm out. 1.00

00:30:02.000 Shit don't work. 1.00

00:30:03.000 You can't get more chi by a burning thing that's in the end of a needle. 0.99

00:30:06.000 How does it give you more chi?

00:30:07.000 Well, it warms up the needle.

00:30:09.000 Oh, okay.

00:30:10.000 Well, that actually makes sense.

00:30:11.000 Yeah.

00:30:11.000 Okay, I take it back.

00:30:12.000 I'm back in.

00:30:14.000 And there's two types of moxa.

00:30:16.000 There's the type that you stick on the end of the needle, and then there's like a big long stick, like a big cigar, and you light the end of that, and then you wave it over...

00:30:25.000 There's a major energy point on our belly button.

00:30:27.000 And that's actually a forbidden point in Chinese. 0.99

00:30:29.000 Same with your nipples. 1.00

00:30:30.000 Hey, you don't want to be putting needles in these places. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Penis is another one of them. 1.00

00:30:34.000 I'm pretty sure the scrotum also. 1.00

00:30:36.000 So they're smart. 0.70

00:30:37.000 They knew where not to put the needles. 1.00

00:30:38.000 Yeah, don't put needles in your penis. 1.00

00:30:40.000 How fucking smart are these people? 1.00

00:30:42.000 They're not putting bases on the moon. 1.00

00:30:44.000 They're just saying, don't stick needles in your dick. 1.00

00:30:46.000 I could have told you that. 1.00

00:30:47.000 I'm not even educated.

00:30:50.000 So when you say major energy centers, like an energy center in the stomach area, what does that mean?

00:30:57.000 So that's where a lot of energy is stored.

00:30:59.000 Really?

00:31:00.000 Is there a battery down there?

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:02.000 No, but it's almost like a pool of this vital energy that we breathe in.

00:31:08.000 Yeah?

00:31:09.000 But how's it stored there?

00:31:12.000 Um...

00:31:13.000 I'm just...

00:31:13.000 I'm challenging this because I'm playing devil's advocate, first of all.

00:31:17.000 But also because I wanted to ask you about these things because I've had these conversations with people and I'm always like, I gotta go.

00:31:24.000 Like, I can't...

00:31:25.000 People start going, oh, I'm pooling my energy and I'm...

00:31:28.000 The moxa enlightens my chi.

00:31:30.000 I'm like, I gotta go.

00:31:31.000 I can't.

00:31:32.000 I don't have the time.

00:31:33.000 So, but you're here right now. 0.98

00:31:35.000 So I really want to know what the fuck is up with all this... 0.98

00:31:37.000 Pooling of the energy, storing of the energy, chakras. 0.98

00:31:42.000 And that brings me back to the scientific part of it.

00:31:46.000 So these chakras are the same as major energy centers in Chinese medicine, which are the same as our endocrine system.

00:31:54.000 So I suppose the chakra at your navel would coincide with the adrenal glands.

00:32:03.000 How much of this stuff do you think is like things along the lines of acupuncture or, you know, these types of meditation, how much of them are actually changing your state because you're just focusing on it?

00:32:19.000 And how much of it is not necessarily a placebo effect, but in the act of saying, okay...

00:32:25.000 They're putting needles in various spots in my body.

00:32:27.000 I'm putting myself in a very calm place.

00:32:29.000 They're lighting the moxa.

00:32:32.000 Just getting yourself calm and accepting the fact that you're in treatment at that moment, which is very different than you would be normally, say, if you have a backache or something like that. 0.98

00:32:43.000 If you have a backache, like, God, my back sucks, really been fucking with me.

00:32:46.000 But do you ever, like, sit down and try to calm your whole body and meditate? 0.98

00:32:52.000 If you did, would that bring the same result as sticking yourself with a bunch of needles and thinking about it?

00:32:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:32:59.000 Does that make sense?

00:33:00.000 It totally does.

00:33:01.000 Yeah, because you are.

00:33:02.000 You're in this state, and the mind is so powerful.

00:33:04.000 Or is it both?

00:33:05.000 Is it being in that state, like, calming yourself down, and there's also an effect by the needles?

00:33:10.000 Yeah, I think it is both.

00:33:11.000 I think there is...

00:33:13.000 Having had acupuncture done it myself many times, my take on it from doing it for a long time is these needles are going into our skin, which is a huge sensory map.

00:33:25.000 And the needles are so fine, they actually don't cut us.

00:33:29.000 It's like taking a baseball bat and putting it into a vat of cooked spaghetti.

00:33:33.000 They're so skinny, they slide in between.

00:33:36.000 It's really weird.

00:33:36.000 They don't even hurt.

00:33:38.000 People think they hurt, you barely feel them.

00:33:40.000 Yeah, so I think it occupies a little bit of space and that signals the brain that, wow, there's something going on here that I don't like.

00:33:49.000 So then it sends down natural anti-inflammatories and sends down more blood circulation.

00:33:54.000 It almost sets the healing environment.

00:33:59.000 Have you ever done whole body cryotherapy?

00:34:02.000 No. 1.00

00:34:03.000 Dude, this is the shit. 1.00

00:34:05.000 You gotta try this. 1.00

00:34:07.000 This is the latest and greatest thing.

00:34:09.000 I heard about Kobe Bryant using it, but my friend Eddie Bravo, when he was preparing for his match against Hoyla Gracie at Metamorris, he started using it on a daily basis.

00:34:19.000 Alan Joban, one of our fighters from 10th Planet who just fought in the UFC, his knee was hurt and he did it twice a day, every day before his last UFC fight and it totally fixed all the inflammation in his knee.

00:34:31.000 You go into this tank, this box, it looks like a meat locker.

00:34:38.000 There's two different doors. 0.93

00:34:41.000 One door is where you take your clothes off, and you keep your underwear on, you have earmuffs on, you wear a mask over your face, and you wear socks and slippers because the floor is fucking ridiculously cold.

00:34:50.000 You have gloves on as well, and you go into this room, it's 250 degrees below zero, and you go there for three minutes.

00:34:57.000 That's what I do. 0.99

00:34:58.000 I do three minutes because I'm not a pussy. 1.00

00:35:00.000 A lot of pussies, they get out at about two minutes. 1.00

00:35:02.000 I fucking hang... 1.00

00:35:03.000 I don't even know if you should do three minutes. 0.99

00:35:04.000 It's probably not even a benefit of going that extra 30 seconds, but...

00:35:07.000 I'm a meathead, so I continue.

00:35:09.000 So you go in there, you do three minutes, and then you get out, and I warm up.

00:35:13.000 I get on the elliptical machine, and I do it for, like, the elliptical machine for, like, ten minutes.

00:35:16.000 Get my body temperature up, and then I go back in again for another three minutes.

00:35:19.000 And it is, it's ridiculously good for inflammation, ridiculously good for any aches or pains that you might have, like muscle soreness, because your body freaks the fuck out. 0.99

00:35:30.000 It feels this 250 degrees below zero, and it just goes, holy shit! 0.97

00:35:34.000 And it pulls all the blood from the surface of your skin down to your core. 0.96

00:35:38.000 Then, three minutes later when you're out, you know, it's enough time so you're not dying of hypothermia.

00:35:43.000 You go out and then your body goes, oh, we're okay.

00:35:45.000 And whoosh, it all just rushes out.

00:35:48.000 And it's been explained to me in very technical and scientific terms, all the different mechanisms that are going on in the body.

00:35:54.000 That are protecting you from this impending death by cold.

00:36:00.000 And so when your body realizes that it's not happening, what is the actual mechanism that causes this anti-inflammatory response?

00:36:08.000 But it's way better than these ice baths that people have been taking for a long time.

00:36:12.000 They sit in these things for 20 minutes.

00:36:14.000 This is way better.

00:36:15.000 And it only takes 3 minutes.

00:36:16.000 It's amazing.

00:36:17.000 You've got to try it.

00:36:18.000 Have you tried the ice baths?

00:36:20.000 I've done an ice bath before.

00:36:22.000 It's good.

00:36:22.000 But this is better.

00:36:24.000 It's not as painful either.

00:36:26.000 They're painful. 1.00

00:36:27.000 Plus you don't have to get your dick wet. 1.00

00:36:29.000 Did I say that out loud? 1.00

00:36:30.000 I think the ice bath is a great thing.

00:36:33.000 If that's all you have, they are painful.

00:36:36.000 And it's also good for your spirit.

00:36:39.000 Your ability to endure.

00:36:43.000 I think that being uncomfortable, your ability to endure comfort or discomfort is a muscle, just like everything else.

00:36:49.000 And my friend Bob Caffarella, when I was back in my Taekwondo days, there was this guy who was one of the senior students when I was first starting out.

00:36:57.000 He was a black belt when I was a white belt, and his name was Bob.

00:37:00.000 And he used to live at the school and teach and train there, Bob Caffarella. 0.97

00:37:04.000 And Bob used to take fucking cold showers in the middle of January in Boston. 0.97

00:37:09.000 He would just crank up the cold water and just get in that shower and wash like nothing was going on. 0.98

00:37:14.000 And I would go, I can't believe he's doing this.

00:37:16.000 It's so cold! 0.97

00:37:17.000 The water was so fucking cold! 0.96

00:37:19.000 And he'd be in there just... 0.99

00:37:22.000 Just doing breathing exercises and taking a shower and everybody else, get the fuck out of here, turn that water on hot and take their shower.

00:37:29.000 But this dude, he really believed in testing your spirit.

00:37:34.000 And he thought that taking these ridiculously cold showers, like actually, probably in the long run, it was actually good for your body, now that we're knowing about cryotherapy and things along those lines.

00:37:44.000 And ice baths, it was probably actually good, like post-workout for anti-inflammatory response.

00:37:49.000 But it was also, he believed that it's like a muscle, that you're testing your will.

00:37:55.000 And by doing that, putting yourself constantly in that state of mind where you can endure discomfort, that you build up your ability to endure discomfort.

00:38:04.000 Yeah, it's kind of, again, kind of like kettlebells.

00:38:07.000 Yeah.

00:38:08.000 I want to send you down there today, though.

00:38:09.000 After this is over, I want to send you down to that cryotherapy place.

00:38:12.000 Thank you.

00:38:12.000 Really?

00:38:13.000 Yeah, you need to do it.

00:38:14.000 You need to do it.

00:38:14.000 Wow.

00:38:15.000 I want to hear what your response to it is.

00:38:17.000 Everybody that I've brought down there, it's called CryoHealthcare in L.A. And they're one of, I think there's only two places in the whole country that have the very specific type of cryotherapy device they have, where you step all the way in.

00:38:30.000 Usually there's one where your body's in, but your head is above it, and it's sort of like a liquid nitrogen that keeps you freezing cold, but that's not as consistent as the one where you step in. 0.95

00:38:40.000 You step in, I mean, your fucking head's in it, your face is in it, you're gonna love it. 0.98

00:38:44.000 I can't wait. 0.99

00:38:45.000 It's just so cool that they're always coming up with these new ways to increase the body's ability to recover, new ways to increase your body's ability to fight inflammation, you know?

00:38:56.000 Well, and a lot of it is based on they're just making something old better.

00:39:01.000 Like, we've known that, you know, probably cold showers or cold baths or jumping in a cold lake is good.

00:39:07.000 Or ice on injuries.

00:39:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:39:10.000 They've just taken it one step further.

00:39:11.000 It's amazing with the technology.

00:39:13.000 Yeah, it really is.

00:39:14.000 It's super cool.

00:39:15.000 And you feel so fucking good when you get out of it. 0.96

00:39:19.000 When you go into it, you're so goddamn cold for those three minutes. 0.95

00:39:22.000 And when you get out, it's like, whoo! 0.87

00:39:25.000 You get this wild adrenaline rush.

00:39:27.000 You start jogging in place.

00:39:29.000 You feel so good.

00:39:30.000 Your brain's firing.

00:39:31.000 Pow, pow, pow.

00:39:32.000 Like, we're gonna live!

00:39:34.000 Yeah!

00:39:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:36.000 Your body is really convinced that you're fucked. 1.00

00:39:38.000 Really? 1.00

00:39:39.000 It's like you're naked and you're dropped off on the top of the earth.

00:39:42.000 I don't even think the North Pole is 250 degrees below zero.

00:39:46.000 No.

00:39:46.000 What's the coldest spot on earth?

00:39:49.000 I would say it's probably like...

00:39:50.000 I'm gonna guess.

00:39:51.000 Let's just guess.

00:39:52.000 I think where that Sue Aikens chick lives, life below zero. 1.00

00:39:55.000 She's my hero. 1.00

00:39:57.000 That bitch lives in the middle of Alaska by herself shooting bears. 1.00

00:40:00.000 But I think that's like... 1.00

00:40:01.000 It gets to like 190. 190 below.

00:40:04.000 What's the coldest spot on Earth, Jamie?

00:40:06.000 Coming up the highest ridge in Antarctica.

00:40:08.000 I'm trying to find...

00:40:09.000 The highest ridge in Antarctica.

00:40:11.000 The coldest, thinnest atmosphere...

00:40:15.000 Somewhere there's...

00:40:16.000 136. That's it?

00:40:18.000 Yep. 1.00

00:40:19.000 Bitch ass 136. I mean nothing. 1.00

00:40:21.000 Colder than dry ice.

00:40:22.000 Colder than dry ice.

00:40:24.000 So this is, oh nothing, just 114 degrees colder than that.

00:40:30.000 Wrap your head around that, son. 1.00

00:40:32.000 That's fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:40:34.000 250. 250 degrees below zero. 1.00

00:40:36.000 And no frostbite.

00:40:38.000 Nope.

00:40:38.000 I'm going to nip a little bit.

00:40:39.000 But it's okay.

00:40:40.000 I didn't need it.

00:40:42.000 No.

00:40:43.000 No.

00:40:44.000 Well, you wear gloves.

00:40:45.000 You wear a face mask.

00:40:47.000 You wear earmuffs.

00:40:49.000 Yeah.

00:40:49.000 Is that the spot?

00:40:50.000 136 below zero.

00:40:52.000 New record for the coldest place on earth.

00:40:52.000 Wow.

00:40:54.000 What happened to global warming, bitch? 1.00

00:40:55.000 I bought real estate up there. 0.99

00:40:57.000 I'm hoping for global warming.

00:40:59.000 I'm trying to set up them all.

00:41:03.000 But if that's the coldest place on earth, still, I mean, it's amazing that this box is 114 degrees colder than that.

00:41:11.000 Wow.

00:41:12.000 114 degrees colder.

00:41:15.000 114. It's cold as fuck. 0.99

00:41:18.000 And how many times do you do this? 0.99

00:41:19.000 I try to do it a couple times a week.

00:41:22.000 Yeah, it's really good.

00:41:23.000 And you go in and out a couple times?

00:41:25.000 Yeah, I do it twice.

00:41:26.000 I go in, do it for a little while.

00:41:28.000 Remember that dude from Fresh Prince, Will Smith's buddy?

00:41:32.000 He was here yesterday.

00:41:34.000 He was doing it yesterday.

00:41:35.000 He's on Dancing with the Stars.

00:41:36.000 He's a great video.

00:41:37.000 He's a nice guy.

00:41:38.000 Very nice guy.

00:41:39.000 Yesterday I met him for the first time.

00:41:41.000 But the response of your body, like, freaking out because of the cold and then warming up and then doing it again.

00:41:48.000 It's supposed to be really...

00:41:48.000 Doing it twice is supposed to be fantastic.

00:41:52.000 Sounds exciting.

00:41:53.000 I can't wait.

00:41:54.000 Do you do anything specifically, like, post-workout?

00:41:57.000 Do you have, like, a routine that you do post-workout to reduce inflammation or anything?

00:42:01.000 But one of the things I do if I run, and I read this in a book and I thought it was ingenious, is just lay on my back and put my legs up against a wall.

00:42:10.000 Oh, just to let the blood flow down?

00:42:12.000 Yeah, let the blood drain.

00:42:13.000 That makes sense.

00:42:14.000 Because a lot of times after you run, you just sit down and have a coffee or something.

00:42:18.000 Yeah, just pool, and it just pools, and then I stand all day at work.

00:42:22.000 And it's hard for that blood to get back to the heart, especially when there's all that inflammation in the legs and all that heat created and all the blood just bashing down into their...

00:42:31.000 So yeah, it makes a huge difference for your legs.

00:42:36.000 Do you work out with a trainer or do you concoct your own workouts and just are self-motivated?

00:42:42.000 Yeah, I dream up differently.

00:42:45.000 My body is my own experiment.

00:42:47.000 Uh-oh.

00:42:49.000 Sorry.

00:42:53.000 That didn't come out right.

00:42:55.000 But it is.

00:42:56.000 You know, it's my body and I can see what it's capable of handling.

00:43:01.000 It's fun to...

00:43:02.000 There's so much information out there and so many cool things to try.

00:43:06.000 But I do come back to the kettlebell training as kind of...

00:43:09.000 To me, that feels like the hardest weight training type conditioning exercise that I've found.

00:43:15.000 And it's just so convenient.

00:43:17.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

00:43:19.000 I just love the fact that you can get so much out of one piece of equipment.

00:43:23.000 You know, with one 50-pound kettlebell, you can have an unbelievable ball-busting workout and your whole body will be ridiculously sore.

00:43:30.000 And all functional strength.

00:43:33.000 Like, I love Turkish get-ups. 1.00

00:43:34.000 Things along those lines, because they're not glamorous exercises, but if you do them consistently, you feel a difference.

00:43:41.000 If you go to help a friend move a couch, you feel it.

00:43:44.000 You feel like you can physically carry things better.

00:43:47.000 Like I said, I was hunting in Alaska this week, and I had a big pack on my back, and I'm climbing up hills, and I felt great.

00:43:54.000 I'm in good shape.

00:43:55.000 I'm going up these ridiculously tough hills and sliding around the dirt and everything, and it's a lot of lifting yourself up with one leg and then lifting yourself up with another leg.

00:44:04.000 So it really is consistent with the workouts that you create in your videos.

00:44:10.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

00:44:13.000 I do.

00:44:14.000 I love the Turkish get-up. 0.98

00:44:15.000 So many people don't like that exercise.

00:44:17.000 Because it's not glamorous.

00:44:19.000 Yeah, and it is hard.

00:44:20.000 You can't watch TV while you're doing it.

00:44:23.000 But I go skiing.

00:44:25.000 We go skiing in the winter.

00:44:26.000 And the most fun thing to do is climb up these huge...

00:44:30.000 Trails that people make.

00:44:32.000 They take their skis off and climb up to, not out of bounds, but this one hill we go to is like, there's, it's like the stair climber from hell. 0.96

00:44:39.000 Hey, the oxygen's a bit thinner and you've got to get your, you've got this stupid ski boot on so you can't flex your ankles. 0.73

00:44:45.000 So you're just going one after the other straight up these hills. 0.97

00:44:49.000 And exactly.

00:44:50.000 It's just like getting up.

00:44:51.000 You're used to it.

00:44:52.000 It's like getting up from the Turkish get up. 1.00

00:44:53.000 Yeah.

00:44:54.000 Except you don't have to hold the weight above your head.

00:44:56.000 Yeah, I just think that it's one of the best exercises for, like, translating into, like, using your body in everyday life.

00:45:02.000 If you have to pick things up or move things, just be strong.

00:45:05.000 Like, have your body, like, oh, you know, it doesn't bother me if I have to move these boxes right now.

00:45:10.000 Right.

00:45:16.000 Our friend from the band Honey Honey yesterday was talking about how they're on the road all the time, and he hurt his back from just carrying their gear.

00:45:25.000 Just picking things up and carrying their gear.

00:45:29.000 Everybody thinks there's a lot of vanity and ego associated with exercise. 1.00

00:45:35.000 Like, if you look at the cover of all these magazines and dudes are all sleek and six-pack, you're like, fuck that douche. 1.00

00:45:40.000 I don't even want to be that guy. 0.99

00:45:41.000 I hate when they block them out or when they airbrush them.

00:45:45.000 That's the worst.

00:45:46.000 It bothers you?

00:45:47.000 Yeah, it's just so fake. 1.00

00:45:50.000 It's fake fuckers. 1.00

00:45:50.000 Fake. 1.00

00:45:52.000 Well, there's a lot of people that actually do look that way, right?

00:45:54.000 But that's the thing.

00:45:55.000 For what you were talking about, your friend that cuts weight and they dehydrate themselves before they take those photographs, that's something that most people are probably not aware of when you look at those magazines and you see someone that's unbelievably shredded and vascular and really thin-skinned.

00:46:10.000 They're dehydrated and they're super unhealthy.

00:46:13.000 You can't stay like that either.

00:46:15.000 That state that they reach, like contest weight state, Like right before they compete in bodybuilding competitions, they're like on death's door. 1.00

00:46:23.000 Those fuckers are like literally ready to die. 1.00

00:46:26.000 But it looks awesome. 1.00

00:46:27.000 Why does it look good to be almost dying?

00:46:30.000 I just think we like that look of just solid muscle and just shredded. 1.00

00:46:37.000 Fucking shredded! 0.99

00:46:40.000 Yeah, a little fat's good though, right? 1.00

00:46:42.000 I think it is, yeah.

00:46:43.000 Good for your endurance, it seems.

00:46:45.000 Because guys who are super lean and shredded, they don't seem to have as much endurance as guys who just have a small layer of body fat on them.

00:46:45.000 Yeah.

00:46:54.000 Does your body actually burn fat if you're in a competition?

00:46:57.000 Say if you're doing something like a marathon.

00:46:59.000 Is your body burning fat?

00:47:02.000 Is it going entirely on glycogen and food?

00:47:07.000 Have you ever read the book Eat, Stop, Eat?

00:47:11.000 Oh yeah, you're too busy to read. 0.99

00:47:12.000 I read, but I read shit on like space. 0.99

00:47:15.000 Things that will never affect me. 0.98

00:47:16.000 I'll summarize it for you.

00:47:19.000 Because it's the best book I've ever read on nutrition.

00:47:23.000 Eat Stop Eat?

00:47:24.000 Eat Stop Eat.

00:47:25.000 EatStopEat.com And I just found it, I don't know how I found it, but it's like an e-book, maybe 100 pages, and it's based on 261 research papers.

00:47:38.000 Anyway, this guy, Brad Pilon, he worked in the supplement industry, and he started wondering, and it's Pilon, P-I-L-O-N, and I think he started questioning the wisdom of six meals a day.

00:47:51.000 Do we really need six meals a day?

00:47:52.000 Does the body really...

00:47:56.000 We're good to go.

00:48:03.000 We're good to go.

00:48:13.000 For 16 hours, before your blood sugar levels even start to be affected, you've got that much glycogen.

00:48:21.000 16 hours.

00:48:22.000 16 hours.

00:48:23.000 So, you think it's like mental for a lot of people?

00:48:25.000 I think it's mental.

00:48:26.000 I think once your stomach is empty, it's such a weird feeling for so many people that they almost freak out.

00:48:34.000 Hmm.

00:48:36.000 So the premise of the book is to fast for up to 24 hours once or twice a week.

00:48:45.000 And yeah, just don't eat anything.

00:48:47.000 You can drink tea, you can drink coffee, nothing with calories in it.

00:48:51.000 And get down to that last eight hours of the fast, that last between 16 and 24. That's the sweet spot.

00:48:57.000 That's where the magic happens.

00:48:59.000 What magic?

00:49:00.000 Well, that's where your insulin levels are like down to the bottom.

00:49:03.000 And your body says, oh my God.

00:49:05.000 There's no blood sugar left in our muscles and liver.

00:49:08.000 We better start burning fat.

00:49:10.000 Wow, what a new concept.

00:49:11.000 Because a lot of people haven't gotten to that hunger stage where their bodies have actually been forced to access fat stores.

00:49:20.000 So, is this the average person that has that many hours of sugar stored up in their body?

00:49:26.000 Yeah, I think that's based on average.

00:49:27.000 I know, because I wondered that too.

00:49:28.000 I'm like...

00:49:29.000 It seems kind of like a cut and dried number, but...

00:49:32.000 So is that good for you to do that?

00:49:34.000 Really?

00:49:34.000 Very good.

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 There's a lot of controversy when it comes to that though, isn't it?

00:49:38.000 There is.

00:49:39.000 But he proves it, like the book, honestly, I couldn't put it down because everything, every sentence he writes is backed up with a study.

00:49:46.000 And it turns out, and he's got charts and graphs and everything.

00:49:49.000 But when you get your insulin down to that level, your growth hormone levels are inversely proportional to your insulin levels.

00:49:56.000 So you actually get a surge of growth hormone.

00:49:59.000 So how weird.

00:50:00.000 Your body makes more growth hormone if your body is starving.

00:50:05.000 Because it's stress.

00:50:06.000 I think it's under stress.

00:50:08.000 And supposedly that's why we get a little spike of growth hormone in the middle of the night.

00:50:12.000 Because presumably if we've eaten supper at a certain hour, by the time the middle of the night rolls around, we've dipped our blood sugar down a little bit compared to what we were after we ate, like four hours after.

00:50:24.000 And the growth hormone has a bit of a bump. 0.86

00:50:26.000 Is that why you're not supposed to eat like a fat pig right before you go to sleep? 0.96

00:50:29.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:50:29.000 Yeah, because then you're sleeping, burning off while you're sleeping. 0.98

00:50:32.000 So, how often do you fast?

00:50:34.000 I try for once a week.

00:50:35.000 Once a week?

00:50:36.000 And how many hours do you do?

00:50:36.000 Yeah.

00:50:38.000 The 24. You just do a full day once a week?

00:50:40.000 Yeah, and he says that anything more than 24 is not that beneficial.

00:50:44.000 You've kind of maxed out the benefits around the 24-hour mark.

00:50:47.000 So, when you come back after the 24-hour fast, do you slowly consume food, or do you have very specific foods that you consume?

00:50:54.000 Yeah.

00:50:55.000 You almost are forced to slowly consume.

00:50:57.000 Really?

00:50:57.000 Because you're so sensitive to food, and it's not even that long of a time, but like a piece of lettuce tastes good.

00:51:04.000 And you know, like you drink maybe a smoothie or something, it's like, oh my god, I'm full.

00:51:10.000 It's incredible.

00:51:11.000 So your stomach is just like super sensitive to it.

00:51:14.000 Yeah.

00:51:14.000 Hmm.

00:51:14.000 You know, animals like bears when they go into hibernation, And they come out, they really can't eat much.

00:51:19.000 They have to slowly work their way up.

00:51:21.000 It's kind of a crazy thing, but grizzly bears, when they come out of hibernation, they kill things on instinct and just leave them there.

00:51:28.000 Because a lot of grizzlies, when they come out of hibernation in the spring, there's still snow on the ground.

00:51:33.000 And moose get stuck in the snow to the point where they can't run away from the grizzlies.

00:51:38.000 Because they're huge animals, and the snow is oftentimes five, six foot thick.

00:51:43.000 I don't have to tell you, you live in Alberta. 0.99

00:51:45.000 And as they're walking, they're fucking sinking all the way to the bottom of the snow. 0.98

00:51:48.000 A moose can't sprint in seven foot deep snow. 1.00

00:51:52.000 They're really kind of fucked. 1.00

00:51:53.000 They're sitting ducks. 1.00

00:51:54.000 And so these bears come out of these holes and they see these moose just kind of trudging and they just run up to them and fuck them up. 0.70

00:52:02.000 And my friend Cameron was up in Alaska, and he said he saw this one bear had killed, like, several moose and couldn't eat them yet.

00:52:11.000 Because he couldn't, like, he'd just come out of hibernation, so he literally didn't have the ability to eat meat yet.

00:52:17.000 But he was just killing anyway. 0.98

00:52:19.000 Killed a bunch of moose and just leave them all fucked up in the snow. 0.99

00:52:21.000 Leave them on ice. 0.99

00:52:22.000 Yeah, like, literally.

00:52:23.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 Yeah, it's amazing how nature works.

00:52:27.000 It's strange how nature works as far as, like, you know, reacting to what you're putting into your body.

00:52:33.000 As far as, like, you're burning off sugars because you're consuming a lot of sugars, and then you stop that and you give yourself only, like, complex carbohydrates, vegetables, proteins, and your body goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, where's the sugar?

00:52:46.000 Where's the sugar?

00:52:47.000 Okay.

00:52:47.000 All right.

00:52:48.000 Change the script.

00:52:49.000 We're going to burn fat.

00:52:50.000 And that's, you know, what the...

00:52:52.000 Paleo has kind of a bad rap.

00:52:55.000 Mm-hmm.

00:52:55.000 Because it's sort of been proven that people that lived in the Paleolithic era didn't necessarily eat that and they probably did eat some grains and they probably did eat anything they can get their hands on.

00:53:05.000 But the reality being that simple sugars, whether it's a lot of pasta, a lot of bread, cake, those things are not necessarily the best thing for your body and it's basically sugar.

00:53:17.000 When you eat a piece of bread and you say, oh, I'm going to have a piece of bread, you're eating sugar.

00:53:22.000 Your body processes it almost the same way as it would process a simple sugar.

00:53:27.000 Yeah, we don't have cereal, bread, pasta, rice, any of that stuff in our house.

00:53:34.000 I should say rice.

00:53:35.000 Eat a little bit of rice, wild rice?

00:53:37.000 Yeah.

00:53:38.000 Quinoa?

00:53:39.000 You ever have rice and quinoa?

00:53:40.000 Quinoa is great.

00:53:42.000 It's one of the few complex proteins in plant form, too, where it has basically all the amino acids.

00:53:47.000 And it's a seed, right?

00:53:48.000 Yeah, it's a weird grain.

00:53:51.000 Bread is one of those things that my wife is great with diet. 1.00

00:53:54.000 She's very strict, very disciplined.

00:53:57.000 So when I look at a piece of bread, it's like, if I'm going to eat that, that's a treat.

00:54:01.000 It's kind of like having a piece of birthday cake or something.

00:54:04.000 Really?

00:54:05.000 Yeah, like if I go out for dinner or something, it's, uh, I'm gonna have a piece of bread, it's so exciting, you know?

00:54:10.000 Whereas most people eat that kind of stuff.

00:54:13.000 They think they're healthy, because they're eating whole grain bread.

00:54:16.000 Yeah.

00:54:16.000 I don't...

00:54:17.000 It's a fascinating subject, the subject of diet.

00:54:21.000 It is.

00:54:22.000 It's really, it's, you are what you eat. 0.97

00:54:25.000 And that's such a stupid cliche for me to say, but, because it's been said so many times, it's painful. 0.94

00:54:30.000 But it really is what it is. 0.97

00:54:31.000 Have you seen, uh, King Corn?

00:54:33.000 I mean, that just proves it.

00:54:33.000 Yes!

00:54:35.000 The guy was what he ate.

00:54:36.000 Their DNA was made of corn.

00:54:38.000 Yeah, the carbon was based on corn when they did an analysis of their hair.

00:54:44.000 I love that documentary because these guys went into it pretty...

00:54:48.000 They weren't aware.

00:54:50.000 They didn't really know.

00:54:51.000 Corn?

00:54:51.000 They're like, what?

00:54:52.000 Okay, let's find out what this is all about.

00:54:54.000 They bought an acre of corn or leased an acre of corn on this guy's farm, grew it, and watched the whole thing from...

00:55:00.000 Putting the corn to the ground to harvesting it and selling it and seeing where it goes after it's sold.

00:55:05.000 Amazing documentary.

00:55:06.000 And a stunning analysis of where our culture is right now when it comes to farm subsidies and how it affects every human being on this planet.

00:55:16.000 When they go to the supermarket and start finding all the different corn ingredients that are on all these different products.

00:55:23.000 Corn proteins and corn syrup and corn flour and corn this and corn that. 1.00

00:55:28.000 Fuck! 0.99

00:55:29.000 Yeah, unless you're eating purely whole foods, you're going to be eating corn. 1.00

00:55:36.000 And corn is not good.

00:55:39.000 Like, your body doesn't digest corn well. 1.00

00:55:41.000 That's why you find corn kernels in your shit. 1.00

00:55:43.000 You know? 1.00

00:55:45.000 That's like, it's really that simple.

00:55:46.000 Like, why is that in there?

00:55:48.000 Because your body didn't digest it.

00:55:49.000 Your body's like, what is this?

00:55:51.000 Your body, like, basically spits it out the way it went in.

00:55:55.000 You swallow a kernel of corn, it'll come out like a marble.

00:55:58.000 You know?

00:55:59.000 I mean, that's really...

00:56:01.000 It's your body telling you something.

00:56:03.000 Hey, we're not...

00:56:04.000 This isn't...

00:56:04.000 What is this?

00:56:06.000 I don't even know what to do with this.

00:56:07.000 Yeah, I've wondered about that.

00:56:08.000 Because, you know, corn on the cob in the summer.

00:56:10.000 I don't eat it anymore.

00:56:11.000 Because it is so disgusting. 0.97

00:56:13.000 How dare you? 0.96

00:56:13.000 So delicious. 0.96

00:56:14.000 You put butter on it?

00:56:15.000 Mmm.

00:56:16.000 But you know what?

00:56:17.000 It's butter. 0.99

00:56:18.000 Damn, it's so good. 0.99

00:56:19.000 It's the butter that makes things taste good. 0.99

00:56:20.000 We were in Costa Rica last year.

00:56:22.000 Yeah, but you don't eat a stick of butter by itself. 1.00

00:56:23.000 It tastes like shit. 1.00

00:56:24.000 You know? 1.00

00:56:25.000 I don't buy that.

00:56:26.000 I think it's the butter on the corn.

00:56:28.000 Well, if it's melted.

00:56:29.000 You dip something into it that would otherwise...

00:56:31.000 It helps lobster.

00:56:33.000 Yeah, I had lobster.

00:56:34.000 I had steak and lobster for Christmas.

00:56:35.000 We were on holidays.

00:56:37.000 In Costa Rica, butter's pretty precious there.

00:56:41.000 They don't give that stuff out just for nothing.

00:56:43.000 They don't give butter out? 0.96

00:56:44.000 Yeah, so I had this steak and lobster.

00:56:46.000 I'm going to treat myself.

00:56:46.000 It's Christmas dinner.

00:56:48.000 And they didn't bring me butter, and I said, sorry to be a pain in the ass, but can I get some butter with the lobster? 0.99

00:56:54.000 They looked at me like, I was crazy. 1.00

00:56:57.000 Goddamn third world people. 1.00

00:56:58.000 That's why they don't have nuclear weapons. 1.00

00:57:00.000 They don't even know what they're doing.

00:57:01.000 We won't let them have it. 1.00

00:57:02.000 Can't even handle butter, you fucks. 1.00

00:57:04.000 That's why you go up to Maine if you want lobster. 1.00

00:57:06.000 That's where they make a real lobster. 1.00

00:57:08.000 Goddamn American lobster, not this Costa Rican bullshit. 1.00

00:57:11.000 They don't even have claws. 1.00

00:57:12.000 This is unarmed pussy lobsters, peace-loving lobsters.

00:57:15.000 You go to Maine, you get those cold water lobsters.

00:57:18.000 Oh, that's the real lobster, my friend.

00:57:21.000 They fly Maine lobsters all over the country, you know?

00:57:24.000 That's why I'm here. 1.00

00:57:25.000 Fuck yeah, they do. 1.00

00:57:26.000 Yeah, you don't want those. 1.00

00:57:27.000 They have California lobsters.

00:57:28.000 Like, if you go to Malibu off the coast, you'll see people right now, because it's lobster season, they scuba dive for lobsters. 0.99

00:57:35.000 They go in the water, and they've got their fucking goggles on and shit, and they're looking for lobsters. 0.97

00:57:40.000 But it's a different lobster. 1.00

00:57:42.000 It's a lobster with no claws. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Some bitch-ass pacifist lobster. 1.00

00:57:45.000 They don't taste as good. 1.00

00:57:47.000 You want the violent lobsters of Maine. 1.00

00:57:49.000 Cold water, angry, beating the shit out of each other, cutting off each other's fucking tentacles. 1.00

00:57:54.000 Those are the ones you capture and they're so delicious. 1.00

00:57:57.000 They're like a sweet...

00:57:58.000 Those cold water lobsters, Atlantic lobsters, they're sweet.

00:58:02.000 With butter.

00:58:04.000 The butter does help.

00:58:05.000 So much for the diet.

00:58:06.000 Is butter okay?

00:58:07.000 What about grass-fed butter?

00:58:08.000 Yeah, butter's great.

00:58:09.000 Is it great?

00:58:10.000 It's fat.

00:58:10.000 Yeah.

00:58:11.000 We don't get enough fat in our diets.

00:58:13.000 That's really true?

00:58:14.000 Yeah, I believe so.

00:58:15.000 But we're fat.

00:58:17.000 So how does that work?

00:58:18.000 Well, I know you're playing devil's advocate probably.

00:58:21.000 How do you know?

00:58:22.000 You're so clever. 1.00

00:58:23.000 You goddamn Canadians. 1.00

00:58:25.000 You're one step ahead. 1.00

00:58:27.000 It's the sugar.

00:58:28.000 It's the sugar.

00:58:29.000 The sugar gets us fat.

00:58:31.000 But we need fat in our diet not to be fat.

00:58:33.000 We don't need to be fat, but we need to eat fats.

00:58:35.000 Yeah, for our cell membranes, for our hormones.

00:58:38.000 Everything's made out of fat.

00:58:39.000 Everything good in our body is made out of fat.

00:58:41.000 Yeah, like avocados, not even just animal fats.

00:58:44.000 There's a lot of good, healthy coconut oil.

00:58:47.000 There's a lot of good, healthy fats that we could use on a regular basis.

00:58:50.000 My wife packed me an avocado in my backpack just to make sure I didn't freak out. 0.99

00:58:54.000 My wife has never packed me a fucking avocado in her life. 1.00

00:58:58.000 God damn, I don't want to talk to her about that shit. 1.00

00:59:02.000 Do you eat game? 1.00

00:59:03.000 Do you eat game meat?

00:59:04.000 There's so many guys.

00:59:05.000 I'm the only guy on my...

00:59:06.000 I play beer league hockey.

00:59:08.000 And I think I'm the only guy on our hockey team that doesn't hunt.

00:59:12.000 So I've got to get into this.

00:59:14.000 Would you get into hunting?

00:59:15.000 I'd love to.

00:59:15.000 I'm telling you, man.

00:59:16.000 Me and Steve Rinell have been talking about doing a television show where we take people out hunting that have never been hunting before.

00:59:21.000 The only problem with that idea is I don't have that much time.

00:59:24.000 And when I go out hunting, I don't want to go out holding your hand, Keith Weber.

00:59:28.000 I want to go out to shoot an animal that I can eat.

00:59:30.000 I don't have time to show you how to shoot an animal. 0.98

00:59:33.000 So you're on your own.

00:59:34.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:59:35.000 Right.

00:59:36.000 Well, and I think it seems like it is a week-long ordeal.

00:59:40.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:41.000 Well, we just went for a week in Alaska and we struck out.

00:59:43.000 We didn't get anything.

00:59:44.000 So it's not always guaranteed.

00:59:46.000 This is my first strikeout trip.

00:59:49.000 But every hunting trip I've been on has been about a week.

00:59:52.000 And all of them up until this one have been successful.

00:59:54.000 But it's work, man.

00:59:55.000 It's work.

00:59:56.000 Unless you want to go to a place where you know...

00:59:58.000 Like, you could go to a place that they have these ranches, especially in Texas, that are called high-fence ranches.

01:00:04.000 So it'll be X amount of acres.

01:00:07.000 A lot of them are huge, like 10,000 plus acres.

01:00:10.000 But they're fenced in.

01:00:11.000 And there's animals in there for sure.

01:00:12.000 But it's all private property.

01:00:14.000 But it's kind of like a park, you know?

01:00:16.000 I mean, you know what I mean?

01:00:18.000 It's like, once there's a fence...

01:00:20.000 I mean, is it better than going to the grocery store and buying a steak from an animal that lived in a pen?

01:00:25.000 Yes, it is.

01:00:26.000 Because they are living in a very wild way.

01:00:26.000 Most certainly.

01:00:29.000 It's essentially what you would call fair chase.

01:00:32.000 There's 10,000 acres and these animals are living in this environment that is absolutely natural.

01:00:36.000 They're not being fed.

01:00:38.000 It's not like, you know, the bell goes off at 9 in the morning and the food pours out in front of them.

01:00:45.000 They're just eating natural grasses and Wandering around these natural environments, but they're there for sure.

01:00:45.000 It's not that.

01:00:51.000 So it's kind of like a stocked lake in some ways.

01:00:56.000 That sounds pretty good, actually.

01:00:57.000 But people don't have a problem with a stocked lake, but they do have a problem with high fence hunting. 0.87

01:01:01.000 I think we feel like we have such an advantage already over animals that to have more of an advantage, like to have them blocked in by an actual fence, is kind of a pussy way of doing it. 1.00

01:01:13.000 Does that make sense? 0.92

01:01:14.000 Yeah, no, I could see that thought.

01:01:14.000 Yeah.

01:01:16.000 I have friends that bow hunt, which I find that's pretty respectful.

01:01:23.000 That's actually how I hurt my shoulder, from talking to me about getting Regenikine on my shoulder.

01:01:27.000 Right.

01:01:28.000 Yeah, from pulling a bow too many times.

01:01:31.000 Yeah, that's good exercise, isn't it?

01:01:33.000 Well, it's decent exercise, but it's just repetitive stress. 1.00

01:01:37.000 I'm an idiot. 0.77

01:01:38.000 So I was doing it 150 times a day, and you're pulling between 80 and 90 pounds. 0.99

01:01:44.000 So I'm pulling 80 and 90 pounds.

01:01:46.000 I have two different bows, and I'm doing it 100 times a day plus. 1.00

01:01:49.000 So after a while, my shoulder was like, fuck you, stupid. 1.00

01:01:52.000 Keep getting us to do this. 1.00

01:01:54.000 When we're sore, stop.

01:01:56.000 Is that the shoulder that usually bugs you?

01:01:58.000 Well, it doesn't usually bug me.

01:01:59.000 It just started to bug me because of all the bow, all the archery.

01:02:03.000 So I have a lighter bow that I shoot with now, too.

01:02:05.000 But archery is fun just as far as an exercise for your mind.

01:02:09.000 It's just a zen sort of a thing to tune into that one spot you're trying to hit, keep everything calm, everything's together, tune in, and let the arrow go.

01:02:19.000 Everything's absolutely still, just perfectly lined up.

01:02:25.000 You should go.

01:02:26.000 Yeah, you've inspired me.

01:02:28.000 Forget the guns.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, bow hunting for a moose.

01:02:31.000 Make sure you shoot behind a tree, though, so if the moose charges, you can slowly circle the tree.

01:02:37.000 Yeah, he just killed an elk.

01:02:38.000 Huge elk.

01:02:39.000 I couldn't believe it.

01:02:40.000 He borrowed one of my mountain bikes to ride up there.

01:02:43.000 He said, why walk when I can borrow one of your bikes?

01:02:46.000 That's a smart dude.

01:02:47.000 Yeah.

01:02:48.000 But I think an elk will probably hear that bike coming. 1.00

01:02:50.000 They're like, who the fuck is this guy doing? 0.99

01:02:55.000 Well, he said what they do is they'll have the guy that's going to kill the thing in sort of the danger area, and then they'll have the guy calling it behind him. 0.99

01:03:03.000 Ah, I see.

01:03:04.000 So he's like, this thing is totally unsuspecting.

01:03:07.000 He's like, what is that?

01:03:09.000 Because he thinks it's another male, right?

01:03:10.000 Right.

01:03:11.000 Well, he either thinks it's another male or he thinks it's a cow.

01:03:14.000 They call during what's called the rut, which is when the animals are all trying to get their sexy time in.

01:03:20.000 And they have this crazy noise.

01:03:22.000 Have you never heard an elk bugle?

01:03:25.000 I've never heard it in real life.

01:03:27.000 I've heard cows, they make a weird whistle.

01:03:29.000 I've heard that in real life.

01:03:31.000 But unless you're there during the spring, or during the fall, rather, like right around, I think it's October-ish, like right around now, really, is when they're rutting.

01:03:41.000 And when they're rutting, they have this...

01:03:43.000 This crazy noise that they make, this bugle.

01:03:50.000 And the way you call them in is either you...

01:03:56.000 Yeah.

01:03:57.000 Sounds like a whale.

01:03:57.000 That's the real noise.

01:03:58.000 It does.

01:03:59.000 It's so crazy.

01:04:00.000 They're a majestic animal.

01:04:02.000 They really are majestic. 1.00

01:04:03.000 They're so fucking big. 0.98

01:04:06.000 They're like 1,200 pounds, some of them, you know? 0.99

01:04:09.000 And that's so much meat.

01:04:10.000 I mean, you shoot one of them, and you've got, like, essentially, you've got a year's worth of food, which is amazing.

01:04:15.000 Yeah.

01:04:16.000 Total renewable resource.

01:04:17.000 They're constantly having babies. 0.85

01:04:19.000 You know, there's huge herds of them all throughout, you know, Utah and Idaho and Colorado.

01:04:24.000 Yeah.

01:04:26.000 That's so cool. 1.00

01:04:27.000 What a fucking wild animal, man. 1.00

01:04:29.000 And they practice the calls, right? 1.00

01:04:32.000 They have actual whistles for this.

01:04:34.000 Oh, the hunters?

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:35.000 There's a bunch of different companies that make different whistles.

01:04:38.000 But it's funny because hunters can actually tell the difference between someone using a hunting call that sounds like an elk...

01:04:46.000 And an actual elk's sound.

01:04:48.000 So a lot of hunters are convinced that elk, like smart elk that have been around for many seasons, they go, you know what?

01:04:54.000 I'm not buying that one. 0.98

01:04:56.000 I fucking heard that before. 1.00

01:04:58.000 An arrow went flying near my head the last time I came near that fucking sound. 0.99

01:05:02.000 You know, some of them, they sound pretty realistic. 1.00

01:05:06.000 In other ones, they just sound like a call.

01:05:08.000 But it's enough.

01:05:09.000 All you have to do is just get them.

01:05:10.000 They're so horny, apparently, when it's going on. 1.00

01:05:12.000 They have hard-ons, and their dicks are flopping against their stomach, and they come out screaming and bellowing. 1.00

01:05:17.000 And they're like, fuck you, bitch. 1.00

01:05:20.000 You better not be making that noise in my neighborhood. 1.00

01:05:22.000 And they come running out, and that's when you get them. 0.98

01:05:25.000 Because otherwise, getting close enough to shoot them with an arrow is really difficult. 0.99

01:05:29.000 Their sense of smell is insane. 1.00

01:05:31.000 Their hearing is insane.

01:05:33.000 They're always on the lookout.

01:05:34.000 And you've got to get within less than 50 yards most of the time.

01:05:38.000 Yeah.

01:05:39.000 And don't they have smells?

01:05:41.000 The hunter has a smell that he puts on them?

01:05:42.000 Oh, yeah.

01:05:43.000 You can do that.

01:05:45.000 You can spray things on you.

01:05:46.000 It'll help a little.

01:05:47.000 Their sense of smell is just so...

01:05:48.000 It's so powerful, though, that...

01:05:50.000 Human beings can't even really conceptualize it, I don't think. 0.99

01:05:53.000 Our idea of what a smell is, when they're getting a fucking internet download PDF file of you when they smell you, they're getting like, oh, this guy's eating hamburgers, drinking beer, we gotta get the fuck out of here! 0.99

01:06:06.000 I smell gunpowder, let's go! 0.99

01:06:08.000 They just bolt.

01:06:09.000 They're getting so much information from your smell.

01:06:12.000 We think of it as like, oh, he can smell me.

01:06:14.000 I think they're getting a book on you.

01:06:17.000 I think they're... 0.99

01:06:18.000 They just fucking, they get your whole life story and like, go, see ya! 0.99

01:06:22.000 A lot of people, they also eat grass and vegetables only, like a few guys I've talked to, like the week of the hunt. 1.00

01:06:31.000 So their breath is the breath of a vegetation eating animal instead of like someone who eats like a lot of meat and you're making burps that it smells like rotten meat coming out of your face.

01:06:42.000 Like, oh, I think I know what this guy's up to.

01:06:46.000 It's true, isn't it, though?

01:06:47.000 I don't think you're supposed to eat that much meat.

01:06:49.000 Well, I think if you were going near them, it would totally make sense.

01:06:52.000 If you were trying to track an animal that's worried about you eating it, I would think that you would try to...

01:06:58.000 If you eat a lot of vegetables, your breath would be that of something that eats vegetables.

01:07:03.000 They say that that's the big giveaway, is your breath.

01:07:06.000 Some people even eat spruce needles.

01:07:08.000 They'll chew spruce needles while they're out in the field because it'll sort of mask the natural smells inside their breath.

01:07:16.000 I never heard that.

01:07:17.000 That makes total sense, though.

01:07:19.000 That's about me, bro.

01:07:20.000 Making total sense all day.

01:07:23.000 So your buddies in your hockey league, they all hunt?

01:07:27.000 Yeah.

01:07:28.000 Have they offered to take you?

01:07:29.000 They have, yeah.

01:07:31.000 I've got to take them.

01:07:32.000 It just worries me because it sounds like a bit of an alcoholic paradise.

01:07:37.000 Does it?

01:07:38.000 Yeah, it sounds like they do usually kill animals.

01:07:42.000 They're pretty good.

01:07:43.000 I think they do this every year since they were kids. 1.00

01:07:45.000 But they do it drunk as fuck? 1.00

01:07:47.000 Well, I think they drink at night. 1.00

01:07:48.000 After it's over.

01:07:50.000 Yeah, I think they hunt all day and then at night they just...

01:07:52.000 It sounds like they drink more than...

01:07:56.000 But they're pretty good.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, they're a good group of guys.

01:08:02.000 They're the Albertan, blue-collar Albertan archetype.

01:08:08.000 Well, there's so much game up there in Alberta.

01:08:10.000 You guys have some of the biggest bucks as far as deer in the world.

01:08:13.000 Oh, yeah.

01:08:14.000 They have giant 300-pound whitetails.

01:08:16.000 You have these enormous mule deers, huge moose, bear.

01:08:20.000 You have black bear all over the place up there.

01:08:22.000 It's like a paradise of game.

01:08:23.000 Well, even the city we live in, I see deer every day in my backyard.

01:08:29.000 They're like rabbits.

01:08:30.000 Really?

01:08:31.000 Yeah, just like whitetail deer. 0.97

01:08:34.000 Shoot one of those things, Keith Weber.

01:08:35.000 Well, I thought about it, but I don't think you're allowed to in city limits. 0.96

01:08:39.000 No.

01:08:40.000 But when you say city limits, what city?

01:08:43.000 Red Deer. 0.99

01:08:44.000 Yeah, you could shoot them in Red Deer. 0.99

01:08:45.000 It's in the name. 1.00

01:08:46.000 Red Deer.

01:08:47.000 It's in the name of the city.

01:08:48.000 You're allowed to.

01:08:49.000 I read that.

01:08:51.000 If your finger yards over a certain size and you have a bow and arrow, I bet you'd probably get away with it.

01:08:57.000 Yeah, you could.

01:08:59.000 You could.

01:09:01.000 I think?

01:09:17.000 If they've invited you to come along, would you have to take a firearm safety thing or anything up there?

01:09:23.000 Do you have to do that?

01:09:24.000 Like take a hunter's education course?

01:09:25.000 Yeah, and I don't think it's that big of a deal.

01:09:28.000 And my dad has a bunch of rifles and stuff that he doesn't use. 0.99

01:09:32.000 What the fuck, Keith? 0.99

01:09:33.000 Get a Kraken. 1.00

01:09:34.000 It's the healthiest meat as far as like...

01:09:36.000 It's also the most ethically...

01:09:38.000 You're so connected to whatever you're eating.

01:09:40.000 You shoot a deer and you cut that deer up and you eat it.

01:09:43.000 You're 100% completely invested and connected with that animal.

01:09:47.000 As opposed to that weird disconnect that you get, especially when you eat, like, bologna.

01:09:52.000 You know, like a bologna sandwich.

01:09:54.000 Like, what even is that? 0.70

01:09:55.000 Like, what steps have been taken to turn this into this perfectly symmetrical, round slice of whatever the fuck it is that used to be a live thing? 0.79

01:10:04.000 I remember the bologna when I was a kid.

01:10:06.000 They used to have, like, the little alphagettis embedded into it.

01:10:10.000 What's an alphagetti?

01:10:10.000 I don't know if you ever had that.

01:10:12.000 You never had that?

01:10:13.000 I don't know what that means.

01:10:14.000 Alphagetti, oh my god.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, it's like a can of pasta with the tomato sauce and the various letters of the alphabet.

01:10:23.000 Oh! 0.60

01:10:25.000 Spaghetti-Os kind of thing.

01:10:26.000 Yeah, like Spaghetti-Os with letters.

01:10:29.000 Alphagetti.

01:10:30.000 Alphagetti.

01:10:31.000 Poor Canada.

01:10:33.000 Poor Canada.

01:10:34.000 Makes me sad.

01:10:37.000 No, we don't.

01:10:38.000 I mean, we have something similar.

01:10:40.000 What is that called?

01:10:41.000 It's not SpaghettiOs.

01:10:42.000 What is it?

01:10:44.000 Alphabet?

01:10:45.000 Alphabet soup?

01:10:46.000 I don't know.

01:10:46.000 Yeah, there's alphabet soup for sure that's like that.

01:10:49.000 But yeah, I know what you're saying.

01:10:51.000 Yeah.

01:10:53.000 Alphagetti.

01:10:54.000 It always makes me...

01:10:55.000 It always makes...

01:10:56.000 But I still see people eating bologna.

01:11:00.000 Is it bad for you?

01:11:01.000 I don't think it's good.

01:11:02.000 It's definitely not good for you.

01:11:03.000 Now, that's the one thing with the paleo, that they're big on bacon.

01:11:09.000 Right, right, right.

01:11:10.000 And I'm sure we all love bacon, but I don't think you should eat that much of it.

01:11:14.000 Like, I'm leery about that concept of that much sodium and nitrate.

01:11:19.000 But I guess it depends on the type of bacon.

01:11:21.000 I guess there's probably bacon out there that's...

01:11:23.000 Yeah, you can have natural bacon.

01:11:24.000 It doesn't last as long.

01:11:26.000 But from what I understand, there's certain natural nitrates in like sea salt and celery.

01:11:32.000 Celery apparently is naturally high in nitrates.

01:11:34.000 And celery's not bad for you.

01:11:36.000 So I guess, is it just... 0.98

01:11:38.000 I have to fucking have Rhonda Patrick on soon. 1.00

01:11:41.000 I have to ask her about nitrates. 0.99

01:11:43.000 I don't understand that.

01:11:44.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 Yeah.

01:11:45.000 It's supposed to produce carcinogens or something like that.

01:11:48.000 Allegedly?

01:11:49.000 Allegedly.

01:11:50.000 Isn't that what the TSA always finds on people?

01:11:52.000 Nitrates?

01:11:52.000 You're high in nitrates.

01:11:53.000 We've got to pull you over in this room.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, like if you have been on a farm, that's one of the things they say.

01:12:00.000 Like if you...

01:12:01.000 Here's a funny story.

01:12:02.000 When Brian first started working for me, actually I think before Brian was even working for me, he was selling a laptop.

01:12:08.000 He had a laptop and he put it up for sale on the message board.

01:12:12.000 And I private messaged him and I said, I need a laptop, like a second laptop for...

01:12:17.000 You know, work stuff.

01:12:18.000 It was a Windows laptop, and I said, I'll buy it.

01:12:20.000 So he sold me the laptop, sent it to me, and then I took it.

01:12:25.000 Like, from the moment I got it from him, I took it on the road, and I put it in my bag, and I went through the airport, and they immediately flagged it.

01:12:32.000 And they pulled me aside, and they said, your laptop is testing positive for explosives.

01:12:38.000 And I went, what?

01:12:39.000 What do you mean?

01:12:40.000 And they were like, well, have you ever been to a farm recently? 1.00

01:12:42.000 And all I could think of was that motherfucker is pranking me. 1.00

01:12:45.000 He put some fucking gunpowder all over the laptop and then sold it to me. 1.00

01:12:50.000 But it just had, for some reason, it tested for trace amounts of nitrogen and nitrates or whatever the fuck it was. 1.00

01:12:58.000 And that's what they find on explosives. 0.70

01:13:00.000 Well, you know, you can have fertilizer bombs.

01:13:03.000 Like what they used at Oklahoma City apparently was a fertilizer bomb.

01:13:08.000 Remember that Timothy McVeigh thing?

01:13:11.000 Supposedly, there's a lot of controversy and conspiracy theories regarding that incident.

01:13:16.000 They believe it wasn't just that.

01:13:17.000 There's other bombs planted in the building.

01:13:19.000 I don't know.

01:13:19.000 Whatever.

01:13:20.000 But you can make a fertilizer bomb.

01:13:22.000 It's pretty potent. 1.00

01:13:23.000 So that's what they're worried about when they test your laptop and they find that shit. 1.00

01:13:28.000 Fertilizers. 1.00

01:13:30.000 They're bombs.

01:13:31.000 Now you know.

01:13:32.000 Manure.

01:13:33.000 Nitrates.

01:13:34.000 Methane. 1.00

01:13:35.000 Light that shit. 1.00

01:13:36.000 Light your farts on fire. 1.00

01:13:37.000 You could also blow up people's shit. 1.00

01:13:40.000 Like in Fight Club, where they took the soap, the human fat, and made soap and bombs out of that. 1.00

01:13:47.000 Hell yeah, that's right, right?

01:13:48.000 Yeah, that works.

01:13:50.000 Do you ever see that video where that whale is a beached whale and his body's rotting and it explodes?

01:13:57.000 You ever see that?

01:13:58.000 Have you ever seen it?

01:13:59.000 No, I've never seen it. 0.99

01:14:00.000 Oh my god, it's fucking crazy. 0.98

01:14:01.000 See if you can find it, Jamie. 0.96

01:14:02.000 Pull up the video so Keith can watch it.

01:14:04.000 Yeah, you know, your body's...

01:14:06.000 When this whale's body's rotting on the beach, I guess it just comes to some boiling...

01:14:11.000 Were they moving it when it exploded?

01:14:13.000 I think that they were trying to and they couldn't.

01:14:14.000 It just took too long. 0.99

01:14:15.000 And it fucking exploded. 0.98

01:14:17.000 Oh, there was one where they were taking it in a truck. 0.99

01:14:20.000 You remember that?

01:14:21.000 Yeah.

01:14:22.000 They had a beached whale and they'd pick the beach whale up and they were moving it.

01:14:25.000 And as they were moving it, it exploded.

01:14:28.000 Literally like a bomb.

01:14:31.000 There's one they blew up on purpose too, I think, because they had to get rid of the body.

01:14:35.000 Yeah, I don't want to see that one.

01:14:36.000 I want to see natural zone bomb. 0.75

01:14:38.000 That'll happen with wildlife too. 0.55

01:14:40.000 I remember when I was a kid, we lived out in the middle of nowhere and people would leave the animals in the ditch and after a couple weeks, the stomach would just expand, almost like you're blowing a bubble from bubblegum.

01:14:55.000 So I remember being a kid, I could never chew bubblegum because my mom would be so disgusted because it would remind her of this big sack of a stomach ripping out of this animal's body, hey, because all the little bacteria and everything go to work once the animal dies and it just like swells up into this big...

01:15:09.000 And I vaguely remember seeing an animal with like a big pink bubble sticking out of its gut.

01:15:15.000 What?

01:15:16.000 Yeah, because if you don't gut an animal right away, like a deer or an elk or something, it'll just...

01:15:20.000 It'll start rotting.

01:15:21.000 It'll rot, and then the stomach is fairly thinner skin, so it'll actually start to expand.

01:15:27.000 That makes me sad that some people don't eat the organs of the animals that they kill.

01:15:31.000 It's so wasted.

01:15:32.000 I mean, ultimately, it's all going to get eaten by bacteria and other life forms anyway, and scavengers.

01:15:37.000 It will all go to use.

01:15:39.000 If you just leave it there, it'll go to use.

01:15:41.000 Yeah.

01:15:41.000 But the organs are some of the best parts of the body, as far as eating, like eating the liver and eating the heart.

01:15:47.000 It's fantastic and very nutritious, really good for you.

01:15:50.000 Do you eat liver?

01:15:51.000 Yeah, I love liver.

01:15:53.000 Liver's delicious.

01:15:54.000 And liver off a deer, like a fresh deer liver that you just shot, is so good.

01:15:59.000 It's incredible how good it is.

01:16:01.000 When we were in Montana, we shot these deer, and I shot a deer, and within two hours, we were cooking the liver over a campfire.

01:16:11.000 And it was just unbelievable.

01:16:12.000 We were just eating it going, oh my god, this is incredible.

01:16:15.000 And then we fried up the heart, and we ate the heart the same way, like right over the campfire.

01:16:19.000 It was incredible.

01:16:20.000 Did you find anything?

01:16:21.000 Yeah, and caution warning.

01:16:23.000 Caution warning?

01:16:24.000 Some viewers may find this disturbing. 1.00

01:16:26.000 Oh, those viewers are pussies. 1.00

01:16:28.000 Here we go. 1.00

01:16:29.000 Let this bitch go. 1.00

01:16:30.000 Let's see where the fuck this is. 1.00

01:16:32.000 Are we going to get flagged on YouTube for this? 0.99

01:16:33.000 I don't think so.

01:16:34.000 Okay, here we go.

01:16:34.000 It's too quick.

01:16:36.000 Look at this.

01:16:37.000 They're carving into this whale.

01:16:38.000 And as they're carving into it, it's...

01:16:40.000 Oh my god.

01:16:42.000 Look at that.

01:16:43.000 Oh my god.

01:16:45.000 That's insane. 1.00

01:16:46.000 And look at the guy who runs like a bitch. 1.00

01:16:49.000 What, do you think it's going to blow up again, sir? 1.00

01:16:51.000 Look how far it's shot.

01:16:53.000 Splattered all over the wall.

01:16:55.000 Show that again, Jamie.

01:16:56.000 I think they showed it again right here.

01:16:59.000 It's crazy.

01:17:01.000 So he's digging into it to relieve pressure, I guess.

01:17:10.000 Well... 1.00

01:17:13.000 What a weird fucking job. 1.00

01:17:15.000 What do you do? 1.00

01:17:16.000 Well, you know, when whales die, I go and I cut into them. 1.00

01:17:21.000 That looked like it would fuck you up. 0.99

01:17:24.000 That's not just a little explosion. 0.99

01:17:26.000 That's like a serious, ferocious explosion.

01:17:30.000 Boom! 1.00

01:17:31.000 Like, if you were standing right in front of that, you're going down, bitch. 1.00

01:17:34.000 You're gonna get hurt. 1.00

01:17:35.000 Imagine if that's how you died.

01:17:37.000 How'd you die?

01:17:38.000 Well, whale was beached.

01:17:40.000 Whale cannon. 0.99

01:17:41.000 Cut into it and it fucking blew up in my face. 1.00

01:17:43.000 Took my head off. 0.99

01:17:45.000 Here I am.

01:17:46.000 In heaven.

01:17:48.000 Feeling bad.

01:17:50.000 When your friends go hunting, they give you meat?

01:17:54.000 No.

01:17:55.000 Actually, you know, I shouldn't say that.

01:17:57.000 Because it's customary after a beer league hockey game to indulge in meat-type snacks, cheese, preferably going out to a local pub to have chicken wings, beer, rum and cokes, things like that.

01:18:13.000 But there are times when we're in a place where they don't have a good pub and out comes the beef jerky.

01:18:19.000 And everyone's really...

01:18:20.000 Because I think they use a lot of the animal to make beef jerky out of.

01:18:25.000 And everyone's very proud of their secret recipe.

01:18:28.000 Right, right, right.

01:18:29.000 It's amazing.

01:18:30.000 That is a cool thing about a lot of hunters, they get really into cooking, because they're so connected with the meat that they get themselves, they start getting into being a chef.

01:18:39.000 Steve Rinello, he's a big time chef.

01:18:41.000 He loves cooking food that he makes.

01:18:44.000 Do you cook your own meals?

01:18:46.000 Do you have very specific recipes that you follow as far as healthy eating and recovering from exercise?

01:18:53.000 Yeah, we eat a lot of soup.

01:18:56.000 Yeah, even for breakfast.

01:18:56.000 Soup?

01:18:58.000 Really?

01:18:59.000 Why soup?

01:18:59.000 Yeah.

01:19:00.000 It's a really easy way to get a lot of vegetables into your diet.

01:19:07.000 We've got a few local grass-fed places that you can get the soup bones from.

01:19:14.000 So we'll boil these bones for a day or two, just get all that gel and everything off them, throw that in the concoction of boiled vegetables.

01:19:23.000 And according to my wife, this is good to have something warm in the stomach in the morning, because our stomach fire again.

01:19:32.000 It's all terminology.

01:19:35.000 Our stomachs, our digestive enzymes aren't as active in the morning.

01:19:38.000 So if you eat this soup, it sort of gets things going in the right direction.

01:19:42.000 And then with my job, I don't like to take a lunch break.

01:19:44.000 I like to just blast right on through for eight hours.

01:19:47.000 I just throw it in a Vitamixer.

01:19:49.000 What's your job?

01:19:50.000 What's your regular job?

01:19:52.000 Physiotherapist.

01:19:52.000 So you work with people that are injured and things along those lines?

01:19:55.000 Yeah.

01:19:55.000 So I go from person to person.

01:19:58.000 And I don't have a ton of time in between to have a big meal.

01:20:01.000 And I find that makes me tired anyway.

01:20:04.000 Do you ever follow the warrior diet?

01:20:06.000 Yeah, you know, I did that for a while just because it was convenient.

01:20:10.000 Because I didn't have to eat all day.

01:20:12.000 But I found I pigged out a little bit too much at night.

01:20:15.000 Yeah?

01:20:15.000 Yeah.

01:20:16.000 But I think there's something to that, especially after eating Eat Stop Eat.

01:20:20.000 Ronda Rousey was following it for a while.

01:20:22.000 I don't know if she's followed it anymore, but she was essentially, she would eat like berries and some fruits during the day, but primarily her main meal was one meal a night.

01:20:29.000 She would work out all day like a beast, and then she would eat this, you know, I think, like I said, some berries and some light things and fruit juices and things during the day, but her primary meal was a nighttime meal, and she was having some great benefits from it.

01:20:43.000 Yeah, I think it, you know what, I think there is something to that.

01:20:46.000 And it's, again, it flies in the face of my bodybuilder friends that they want to eat the six meals per day.

01:20:51.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 And then take a protein shake in the middle of the night.

01:20:55.000 Well, I've also heard people say that when you eat many times a day, that somehow or another it stimulates your metabolism.

01:21:00.000 But I don't know what evidence there are, or is...

01:21:05.000 Yeah, I don't think there is. 0.98

01:21:06.000 There's so many different fucking schools of thought when it comes to diet and exercise. 0.97

01:21:10.000 I mean, remember when you were kids? 0.99

01:21:12.000 Remember when we were kids, they had the pyramid, the food pyramid, and the bottom was all grains?

01:21:17.000 I was like, you need carbohydrates.

01:21:19.000 And now it's like, hey, hey, that bottom part, the foundation, throw it out.

01:21:23.000 We don't need that at all.

01:21:24.000 Like, what?

01:21:25.000 That's everything.

01:21:26.000 The grains are everything.

01:21:27.000 You need the grains.

01:21:28.000 No.

01:21:29.000 Well, and there must be something to that six meals a day, because I've seen a lot of people get, like, really good physiques on that.

01:21:35.000 So, I don't know.

01:21:37.000 I think the idea is that when you eat a lot of small meals, that your body's never working on stored food, because it's constantly getting new food.

01:21:45.000 And so that's what stimulates your body to go, look, we don't need all this fat, because we're getting food every fucking two hours.

01:21:51.000 So let's just get rid of all the fat and just live off this food.

01:21:56.000 Yeah, it must be something like that.

01:21:57.000 Then you get into the hormones and things like that, and it gets so complicated.

01:22:01.000 No wonder people get confused.

01:22:03.000 Do you do anything specifically exercise-wise to try to stimulate growth hormone or testosterone?

01:22:10.000 Because they say really explosive exercise.

01:22:12.000 Steve Maxwell is a big proponent of that, very specific exercises that are designed to stimulate your hormonal system.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, that's why I love the double kettlebells.

01:22:23.000 And that's my idea for the next video.

01:22:25.000 It's taken me a long time to figure out how to implement that and make it so that you could actually have a video and follow along with two kettlebells, which was what we were going to experiment with, but your shoulder was sore. 0.98

01:22:42.000 Bitch-ass shoulder. 1.00

01:22:44.000 It's actually not bad. 0.99

01:22:45.000 Like, I can do a lot of things with it.

01:22:47.000 I just don't...

01:22:47.000 I know too many people that have had shoulder surgery, and that's a big one, man.

01:22:51.000 It is.

01:22:51.000 Because it's such a complex joint.

01:22:53.000 It articulates in such weird ways.

01:22:55.000 It's so much different than just the hinge joint of the elbow or of the knee.

01:22:59.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:22:59.000 The shoulder moves, so I don't fuck around with shoulders. 0.99

01:23:02.000 No. 0.97

01:23:02.000 If I have any shoulder injuries, I treat it right away. 0.97

01:23:05.000 The shoulder blade actually just...

01:23:07.000 The scapula actually floats on our rib cage.

01:23:10.000 Like, it's not actually attached to anything.

01:23:11.000 Yeah.

01:23:12.000 Just muscles.

01:23:13.000 Like, the only thing that attaches our shoulder to our skeleton is this joint here.

01:23:17.000 Your collarbone, it just connects everything.

01:23:20.000 It's amazing.

01:23:21.000 Yeah.

01:23:22.000 It's a very complex joint, and it's not so good at getting beat up.

01:23:26.000 You know, when people start having, like Forrest Griffin, former UFC fighter, he can't even brush his teeth.

01:23:31.000 His right hand, like, literally can't brush his teeth with his right hand.

01:23:34.000 He has to brush his teeth with his left. 0.99

01:23:36.000 Just from fucking his shoulder up. 0.99

01:23:38.000 Just from fighting through pain. 0.98

01:23:40.000 It's a big one.

01:23:40.000 Right.

01:23:41.000 Cain Velasquez, another perfect example.

01:23:42.000 UFC heavyweight champion.

01:23:44.000 I mean, he's actually talked about it.

01:23:45.000 He's got such a high tolerance for pain because he's so tough. 0.99

01:23:48.000 Then he'll have an injury and he'll just work through it and then wind up needing surgery because he just tears his shit apart. 0.99

01:23:53.000 Yeah, and they're just big balls of scar tissue. 0.97

01:23:57.000 I see that every day, probably to a lesser extent than these guys, but to a smaller extent than just people that sit at a desk all day using a mouse.

01:24:05.000 The tissues actually adaptively shorten and start to calcify.

01:24:09.000 So then they go and try to take up an exercise program or something and all of a sudden they're tearing this tissue so they're always in pain.

01:24:15.000 What's your thoughts on deep tissue massage and rolfing and things along those lines?

01:24:19.000 Yeah, I think that's what's made our clinic sort of successful, is we're one of the few physios that that's what we specialize in, versus some places they'll use a lot of machines and fancy stuff like that, and it doesn't work as well as just grabbing onto somebody and breaking that scar tissue out of there.

01:24:37.000 Especially if they know what they're doing, man.

01:24:39.000 I've had people work on me that are good and I've had people work on me that aren't so good.

01:24:44.000 And the really good people, they can make a profound change in the way you feel.

01:24:48.000 Like if you have like a tense back or kinked up things or like a constant reoccurring injury.

01:24:54.000 You'd be amazed at how much of it is just like a bound up area that can be broken down.

01:25:00.000 Another thing at Graston, I started doing that recently, where they use metal, sort of a rolfing with like metal tools.

01:25:07.000 Right.

01:25:08.000 Not, it doesn't feel good, but it feels great after it's done.

01:25:12.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:13.000 Well, you're getting in, and that tissue is hypersensitive, like 24-7.

01:25:17.000 It's just full of lactic acid, and those nocireceptors, those pain receptors are just constantly sensitized, so.

01:25:24.000 And that stuff just stays in there.

01:25:25.000 It's like tartar on your teeth.

01:25:27.000 Unless someone gets in there and blasts that out of there for you.

01:25:29.000 It's amazing, though, that you can do that.

01:25:31.000 That a human body, you can actually change the way it feels to the person by just digging into the muscle tissue and breaking it down.

01:25:40.000 Just elbowing into it and pulling and stretching.

01:25:43.000 I have this guy who does...

01:25:44.000 He's brutal, man.

01:25:46.000 I mean, he's...

01:25:47.000 It's unbelievably painful.

01:25:49.000 But when it's over, everything just feels like completely relaxed.

01:25:53.000 Like all these tense areas.

01:25:55.000 And I gotta think that's gotta be tremendous for healing.

01:25:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:59.000 And what's happened is the fascia has healed together.

01:26:02.000 So you're dealing with...

01:26:04.000 Muscle fibers, they've healed.

01:26:06.000 They're healthy.

01:26:07.000 But it's that covering around them that's literally glued together, calcified together in a fibrotic state.

01:26:13.000 So if you can find somebody that works that to the point where it actually breaks apart, it feels amazing.

01:26:20.000 It'll allow you to keep training and not keep re-injuring that spot.

01:26:24.000 Yeah, that's where rolfing actually came from.

01:26:26.000 That woman who created rolfing, I believe her son had cerebral palsy, and she created it to manipulate his soft tissue to give him more range of motion, give him more pain-free life.

01:26:40.000 It works like a charm.

01:26:40.000 Yeah.

01:26:42.000 So when you do that stuff, how often do you do it?

01:26:47.000 Like on other people?

01:26:49.000 How often do you have it done?

01:26:49.000 Or on yourself?

01:26:51.000 I try for once every couple weeks.

01:26:53.000 That's it?

01:26:54.000 Really?

01:26:54.000 Yeah.

01:26:55.000 Yeah.

01:26:55.000 Because if you get rid of it really thoroughly...

01:26:58.000 I've gone through spells where I've had sort of two treatments a week for a while. 0.94

01:27:02.000 But once you get that crap out of there, it's gone. 0.94

01:27:05.000 Like I... I had a job tree planting for eight summers while I went through university, and it's a very one-sided job. 0.98

01:27:13.000 You've got the shovel in your right hand, you're kicking the tree in with your right foot.

01:27:17.000 You're planting literally thousands of trees a day, and you're walking up mountains with these bags of trees, and it's an intense job, but you get paid per tree.

01:27:26.000 So there's a lot of incentive there to work your butt off.

01:27:29.000 So why not just switch sides?

01:27:32.000 It's really, it's almost like writing or something.

01:27:36.000 When you get good with that shovel, you can like weasel in between rocks or find like a little patch of soil.

01:27:41.000 You look for a little blade of grass to slam that shovel into because it's all about economy.

01:27:47.000 Now I do know a few guys that messed up their dominant hand and had to learn with the left hand.

01:27:52.000 And they actually did, after about a week of making no money, they actually started, the brain almost just like, that brain plasticity had kicked in, and they were like, oh my god.

01:28:01.000 So from then on in, they could like, take all the trees out of this bag, switch hands, and take, so I always thought that would be a good idea to do, but I never did.

01:28:09.000 Yeah, they say that when you use the dominant side only on any sort of, like, Steve Maxwell had a comparison when it was coming to people that work in football, the kickers, that these kickers are always kicking with their right side, and that they were really getting all these weird back pains and all these strains in their left leg,

01:28:29.000 and all they had to do to get rid of it was start kicking with the left side.

01:28:32.000 So they kick an equal number of times with their left side.

01:28:34.000 And then it was also discovered that when you exercise your non-dominant hand, like if you're doing something with your non-dominant hand, it actually makes the dominant hand's skill set better.

01:28:46.000 Like your understanding of whatever you're trying to do, whether it's like executing punches or doing martial arts techniques or something along those lines, when you do it with your non-dominant side, it actually makes your dominant side better.

01:28:57.000 Yeah, there's even studies taking people in a cast and taking their other arm and lifting weights while this arm's in a cast.

01:29:05.000 They found at the end of four weeks or six weeks or however long it takes those muscles to atrophy, they've actually lost almost no muscle mass.

01:29:13.000 They didn't even move that arm.

01:29:13.000 What?

01:29:15.000 It's crazy.

01:29:15.000 Even people visualizing.

01:29:18.000 Working out with that arm while it's in a cast shows significant improvements in muscle atrophy.

01:29:23.000 Really?

01:29:23.000 Yeah.

01:29:24.000 Visualizing exercise?

01:29:26.000 Yeah.

01:29:26.000 That would make sense, I guess, because your body thinks it's going to do something, and so it fires up those receptors.

01:29:35.000 No, it doesn't make sense.

01:29:36.000 Wait, it's hard to believe, right?

01:29:38.000 Things like watching sports would make you better at sports.

01:29:38.000 Yeah.

01:29:41.000 I get it.

01:29:42.000 It probably does, though, a little bit. 1.00

01:29:44.000 You're a neurotic.

01:29:44.000 Yeah, you mirror what the athletes are doing, and you also, you sort of, I think martial arts, it's very important if you're in a gym to watch the best guys, watch the really high-level guys kick and punch and do jiu-jitsu moves,

01:30:01.000 because you see what it should look like, and it gives you a high level to aspire to.

01:30:07.000 I have a theory about...

01:30:07.000 Yeah.

01:30:10.000 We're big on the NHL in Canada.

01:30:12.000 We love hockey.

01:30:13.000 I never heard that.

01:30:14.000 Canadians like hockey?

01:30:16.000 Yeah, we love it.

01:30:16.000 You don't say.

01:30:17.000 We're actually going to the LA Kings game on Sunday.

01:30:19.000 My son is just over the moon.

01:30:23.000 But anyway, I think that hockey nowadays is so much better because they've got that screen to look at.

01:30:29.000 They look at their replays constantly.

01:30:31.000 Every time you see them looking up at what they just did, and I think, I'm not going to do that again.

01:30:36.000 I think there must be something to that, because hockey nowadays...

01:30:39.000 I watched the 1987 Canada Cup where Canada beat Russia.

01:30:44.000 I mean, these guys were...

01:30:46.000 This is Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux and the best hockey players, and it looked brutal compared to what it is nowadays.

01:30:52.000 In what way?

01:30:53.000 It was just slower.

01:30:55.000 Slower for one thing.

01:30:57.000 The shots were weaker.

01:30:59.000 It's just a slower game.

01:31:01.000 It was almost like watching one of our beer league games compared to what it is nowadays.

01:31:04.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:31:05.000 Yeah.

01:31:06.000 But that's how it is with sports.

01:31:09.000 There's always innovation.

01:31:12.000 The training methods are expanding and getting better.

01:31:16.000 There's the understanding of the human body.

01:31:18.000 That's kind of a unique thing about what you do.

01:31:20.000 Because...

01:31:22.000 Exercise and training and strength and conditioning training, it's a constantly evolving business and a constantly evolving discipline.

01:31:31.000 That's so interesting.

01:31:32.000 There's so much information out there and it's just, I love reading it.

01:31:36.000 It's so interesting.

01:31:37.000 If you were going to like, say if someone like a Jason McDonald or say like Rory McDonald, some MMA athlete, a high-level athlete came to you and wanted to improve their strength and conditioning, how would you approach like training someone like that?

01:31:50.000 Well, you know, I'd look at what, because these guys are such high-level athletes, I would look at what they're lacking, what they feel like they're lacking.

01:31:58.000 Like, maybe there's something in their ground game that's lacking, or maybe they want more power with their strikes, and give them just enough to enhance what they're doing, but not so much that...

01:32:07.000 It's causing them injury or taking away from what they're doing.

01:32:11.000 I think overtraining is probably quite prevalent nowadays.

01:32:15.000 It's very prevalent.

01:32:17.000 Overtraining is also prevalent because there's this mindset that more is better and that you just need to be tougher.

01:32:23.000 You just need to keep pushing, keep pushing, and more is better.

01:32:26.000 But if your body's not recovering...

01:32:28.000 You're not doing any good by keeping going.

01:32:31.000 You're actually doing damage because you have to have that fine line.

01:32:36.000 You don't want to give your body a low workload where it doesn't actually reach a high level of intensity and conditioning.

01:32:44.000 But you don't want to give it so much that it never reaches a period of recovery.

01:32:48.000 That it's always constantly dealing with a deficit.

01:32:51.000 Yeah, and I think these guys are always riding that thin edge.

01:32:55.000 So you have to be really careful before you start integrating.

01:32:59.000 So if you have an athlete that came to you and said, listen man, my power is fine.

01:33:04.000 It's not my issue.

01:33:05.000 My issue is conditioning.

01:33:06.000 I want to be able to have a full gas tank from the first minute of the first round.

01:33:11.000 I want to be able to fight like that at the fifth round in the final minute.

01:33:15.000 What do you have them do for things like that?

01:33:18.000 I would recommend kettlebells and the type of training scenario that I've shown on the videos.

01:33:24.000 Because I think it teaches you to do 10 thrusters per side and you're winded.

01:33:30.000 You have that little bit of wiggle room where you switch hands with a kettlebell.

01:33:34.000 You can take a few deep breaths and then keep going.

01:33:36.000 And it's almost like you learn...

01:33:38.000 Those respiratory muscles almost learn.

01:33:40.000 And you learn how to control that fatigue and keep breathing even through fatigue.

01:33:44.000 And meanwhile, you're still doing the exercises.

01:33:46.000 So you're still exerting yourself.

01:33:48.000 But I love that kind of...

01:33:49.000 I think that carries over so nicely to where you're maybe on the ground and you're gassed and to get that quick recovery back.

01:33:56.000 So...

01:33:57.000 What about flexibility training and range of motion training?

01:34:00.000 Do you participate in those kind of things?

01:34:03.000 Well, in order to do an overhead squat, you have to be pretty flexible.

01:34:07.000 You think so?

01:34:08.000 In what way?

01:34:09.000 Well, to get deep.

01:34:11.000 Yeah.

01:34:11.000 Flexible?

01:34:12.000 Like your quads, I guess?

01:34:13.000 Well, you need your adductors.

01:34:16.000 You need to almost be able to do...

01:34:17.000 I think if you did enough overhead squats nice and deep, you'd be able to get close to doing a partial split.

01:34:25.000 That's funny, because it never, that issue, because of, I did a lot of stretching when I was young, so I've always been pretty flexible, so I never felt like any flexible, any strain on my flexibility when I'm doing overhead squats.

01:34:40.000 I would have never thought of it as a flexibility exercise.

01:34:42.000 Well, and I'm busy working with people that have never done anything, so I can see how their squats improve so quickly, because a loaded up muscle will always stretch better, so...

01:34:54.000 I can see people, their first kettlebell class, doing these, you know, squats that are not that good.

01:35:00.000 And then after a couple sessions, it's like, whoa, where did that come from?

01:35:04.000 It's just opening up.

01:35:05.000 Opening up, yeah.

01:35:05.000 Loosening up.

01:35:06.000 And that is one of my favorite exercises, overhead squats.

01:35:09.000 Because if you're not keeping those hips open, and you're not doing your stretching, you're not doing your strengthening, that's a hard exercise.

01:35:17.000 That's one of those exercises that tells you, oh yeah, my program's on point.

01:35:21.000 It's good. 0.96

01:35:22.000 Yeah, that's a really unique exercise too because it's so difficult to keep your arms overhead and hold the weight up and drop all the way down where your ass touches your heels and then straighten back up again. 0.98

01:35:22.000 Right. 0.98

01:35:33.000 It's such a core stabilization exercise.

01:35:37.000 And you can tell people with weak cores because they'll always get a cramp in the opposite side.

01:35:42.000 If they're holding the kettlebell in their left hand, their right quadratus lumborum will just seize up on them.

01:35:48.000 Really?

01:35:49.000 So they haven't learned yet how to integrate the hip flexors and the abdominals into getting that nice, almost like your own weight training belt in the front.

01:35:57.000 So their QL takes all the load.

01:35:58.000 And that's probably how they go through life, right?

01:36:00.000 Every time they bend over to pick up groceries, their QL is just doing all the work.

01:36:05.000 I don't ever use weightlifting belts.

01:36:07.000 No.

01:36:08.000 I had a trainer once that told me, he goes, if you need a weightlifting belt, you're lifting too much weights.

01:36:15.000 What you should do is just strengthen your back and your stomach muscles.

01:36:18.000 And I sort of took that to heart.

01:36:20.000 And I've never been a big heavyweight guy anyway.

01:36:23.000 I don't really lift that much heavyweight.

01:36:25.000 The heaviest weight I lift is 70-pound kettlebells.

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:28.000 I just do one in each hand, and I do most of my workouts like that.

01:36:31.000 Yeah, that's a lot.

01:36:32.000 And just the leverage that those kettlebells provide, they're trying to pull you forward.

01:36:38.000 That's a lot of weight.

01:36:39.000 My favorite is kettlebell squats with 70 in each hand.

01:36:44.000 You're just so much...

01:36:46.000 So much stabilization work when you're doing those things.

01:36:50.000 And I feel like when I'm consistent and I do those once a week and I do it on a weekly basis for several months, I just feel a big difference when I'm going to do martial arts techniques.

01:37:00.000 I just feel a big difference in my ability to keep up the intensity deep into the rounds.

01:37:05.000 Yeah, to do those, you're tensing everything.

01:37:08.000 You cannot relax for one minute.

01:37:10.000 It's such a great...

01:37:12.000 So have you done double thrusters with maybe a lighter weight?

01:37:15.000 Yeah, I've done double thrusters.

01:37:16.000 I love those.

01:37:17.000 Those and...

01:37:19.000 I mean, I love to combine the double clean with the squat.

01:37:23.000 And I kind of got this idea off a trainer named Dan John.

01:37:26.000 You might have heard of him.

01:37:26.000 But he's into barbell complexes.

01:37:29.000 And so I've sort of taken a few of his ideas in order to lengthen out that That set that you're using because you get gassed in a hurry with the double kettlebells.

01:37:38.000 So one of his favorite things is you do one clean, one squat, two cleans, two squats, up to five.

01:37:45.000 And doing that with two 24s is when you get to like that five cleans and you've already been like holding those kettlebells, but it gives you just enough of a break that you can kind of get to that last five.

01:37:56.000 24 is what is it, 52 pounds?

01:37:58.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:37:58.000 Yeah, 50 something pounds.

01:38:00.000 These kilograms, pound conversions.

01:38:03.000 The funny thing is pooed. 0.65

01:38:05.000 Pooed, right. 0.62

01:38:06.000 Yeah.

01:38:06.000 One pooed and two pooed.

01:38:08.000 Yeah.

01:38:09.000 Yeah, it's...

01:38:10.000 Come on.

01:38:10.000 What is it?

01:38:11.000 Who gives a shit what it is? 0.99

01:38:12.000 16 kilos? 0.99

01:38:13.000 I don't care.

01:38:14.000 Pounds.

01:38:14.000 America.

01:38:16.000 Eagles.

01:38:18.000 Muscle cars, missiles, pounds.

01:38:20.000 They switched us over to metric when I was about 10 years old.

01:38:23.000 They tried when I was in high school.

01:38:25.000 They were giving it to us, but everybody was like, whatever.

01:38:29.000 They tried for a while.

01:38:31.000 They tried with soccer, and they tried with the metric system.

01:38:34.000 With soccer?

01:38:35.000 Neither one of them worked.

01:38:37.000 Soccer big in Canada?

01:38:39.000 It's getting bigger.

01:38:41.000 Yeah?

01:38:42.000 Yeah, and I think partly because it's not that expensive.

01:38:48.000 Like, hockey's expensive to play.

01:38:49.000 When we were in Alaska this weekend, my friend Matin, who we were up there, he knows a lot about running.

01:38:54.000 And one of the things he was talking about was that runners, there's a lot of people that believe that running and stretching...

01:39:02.000 It's not necessary for runners to stretch.

01:39:05.000 And even the world champion, I think the top three guys in the world for triathlon right now, and these are the guys that are doing the Ironman distance, they admit to not stretching.

01:39:16.000 And the one guy is even a physiotherapist.

01:39:17.000 And no stretching.

01:39:19.000 That's so confusing to me, because I always thought that range of motion was super important, and the stretched muscles were healthy muscles.

01:39:26.000 Yeah, I just took a course from Stuart McGill.

01:39:28.000 I don't know if you've heard of him.

01:39:29.000 He's a Canadian guy.

01:39:31.000 But he's actually world-renowned now, and he wrote the book Low Back Disorders a few years ago.

01:39:35.000 But he was the first guy.

01:39:36.000 He's actually a mechanical engineer.

01:39:38.000 And so what he's doing is hooking electrodes like deep needles into people's psoas muscles and putting force transducers on their actual spinal bones and he works on animals too.

01:39:51.000 And he's taking these exercises that we've given and he's actually measuring the force that the muscles produce compared to the shearing force and the compressive force when we're doing these different exercises.

01:40:02.000 And from all of his research, he's finally been sort of indicated, like a lot of people when he first came out.

01:40:08.000 There used to be a thing in physio where if you want your back to be strong, pull your belly button back to your backbone.

01:40:13.000 That's the best thing you can do because it's going to engage the transverse abdominus.

01:40:18.000 And he blew that theory out of the water.

01:40:21.000 The transverse abdominis actually will co-contract when you do that Valsalva maneuver.

01:40:27.000 When you're at the bottom of a squat and you come up, that transverse abdominis, it's almost like the rotator cuff will contract really hard if you make a tight fist and do that.

01:40:37.000 Anyway, I'm getting off track.

01:40:38.000 So no, please go.

01:40:38.000 He blew it out of the water.

01:40:40.000 How so?

01:40:40.000 Well, he realized that the transverse abdominus doesn't engage by tensing up your sphincter muscles of your butt and you're pulling your belly button back.

01:40:51.000 It doesn't?

01:40:51.000 It doesn't.

01:40:52.000 So, and I think it came, there was a study in Australia many years ago where They were doing ultrasound studies of people's psoas muscles and they found that there was some psoas and multifidus activation when you did these specific exercises where you're pulling the belly button back towards your spine.

01:41:11.000 So don't do that if you lift heavy.

01:41:13.000 So what should you do?

01:41:15.000 Just tighten up everything and keep a good posture?

01:41:17.000 Tighten everything up.

01:41:18.000 They call it breathing against the shield.

01:41:23.000 Like that! 1.00

01:41:24.000 So don't suck in. 0.99

01:41:25.000 Don't suck in. 0.99

01:41:26.000 That's sucking in. 0.99

01:41:27.000 Isn't it weird, though, when things become common practice and it turns out they're horseshit and everybody sort of abandons them? 0.87

01:41:34.000 Yeah, but a lot of these things, they kind of prove, if you have done some lifting, what you kind of knew.

01:41:41.000 It just feels unnatural, I think, to pull your belly button back to your spine.

01:41:46.000 If I'm doing yoga, it feels right.

01:41:48.000 But if I'm lifting a heavy weight, I want to tense up and get everything tight.

01:41:53.000 Right, if you're doing yoga and you're doing those crazy breath things.

01:41:56.000 Have you ever seen Hicks and Gracie's Choke?

01:41:58.000 Have you ever seen that documentary?

01:42:00.000 How dare you?

01:42:00.000 Nope.

01:42:01.000 You need to get that documentary right now.

01:42:03.000 He does these crazy breathing exercises where he's sucking his stomach in all the way and moving it around back and forth. 0.89

01:42:13.000 You ever seen anybody do that?

01:42:14.000 Yeah, I guess you can cure constipation with that kind of thing.

01:42:17.000 Really?

01:42:18.000 Or Ex-Lax, a cup of coffee. 0.81

01:42:19.000 You need to get crazy.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, but I guess they can actually... 1.00

01:42:22.000 Or have a better diet, you fucking... 0.99

01:42:24.000 But yeah, I guess they can actually, you know, manipulate the waste products through the large intestine using their own abdominal muscles. 1.00

01:42:32.000 Kind of makes sense.

01:42:33.000 You know, you're pushing everything around, you know?

01:42:35.000 It kind of seems like it would...

01:42:38.000 Some people have this idea that you should eat smoothies in the morning because smoothies, like vegetable smoothies especially, they sort of lube up the pathway and then everything coming afterwards will have an easy ride through the body's digestive system.

01:42:56.000 That sounds feasible.

01:42:57.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 So, why doesn't stretching, getting back to that...

01:43:01.000 So, he's all about the concept of super stiffness.

01:43:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:43:01.000 Sorry.

01:43:04.000 I think it's a term he might have coined, but he's, with athletes, he's all about having the core stiff so that...

01:43:13.000 And I don't mean stiff where you can't pick up your wallet or something, but stiff to the point where it's always sort of all these abdominal and postural muscles are on high alert.

01:43:22.000 So that when you do throw a punch or something, they kick in all at once.

01:43:26.000 And he claims that from his studies, excessive stretching of the core and the hips and the shoulders, you lose that nice tightness.

01:43:35.000 You lose that nice normal sort of resiliency between the core and the extremities.

01:43:41.000 That's interesting, but the only thing that I would take issue with is that I think that a lot of power comes from the range of motion and the flexibility, especially when it comes to kicking.

01:43:53.000 That's all whipping the body around.

01:43:56.000 There's a lot of power involved in having a long range of motion.

01:44:01.000 Well, his thing is your core should be stiff, but if you are in a kicking sport, you need to have the hips.

01:44:09.000 The hips need to be... 1.00

01:44:10.000 Your core is a big part.

01:44:12.000 If your core is stiff, it seems like the more back flexibility that you have, the more you can execute things with less resistance.

01:44:20.000 Yeah, I think he's all about having that natural weight belt around your hips.

01:44:26.000 What sport does he engage in?

01:44:28.000 Well, I think he did say he has worked with some mixed martial artists.

01:44:34.000 I wonder what would happen if you worked with a mixed martial artist that was like a kicking specialist, like a Machida or an Anderson Silva or something like that.

01:44:40.000 I wonder if they would change their tune, if they saw how much flexibility is necessary to pull off certain things like wheel kicks, things along those lines where your whole body is moving in a very flow.

01:44:52.000 Anything where you're resisting and there's tension and I guess maybe he's advocating not excessive flexibility in the trunk.

01:45:02.000 He's bigger on having this nice core control.

01:45:07.000 Are they mutually exclusive?

01:45:09.000 I don't think so.

01:45:09.000 Can you have a strong core and still a flexible core?

01:45:13.000 I think so.

01:45:13.000 Yeah, I think he just doesn't like excessive stretching.

01:45:19.000 It seems to me that there's different requirements that different sports have. 0.57

01:45:23.000 Like what you would need to be a very good shot putter, you'd need a completely different set of physiological skills or strengths to be a jiu-jitsu player or a judo person or a karate master or whatever the fuck it is.

01:45:39.000 It's almost like the people who are training you have to be skilled in those areas.

01:45:44.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:45:45.000 And I don't think anyone doing sort of body work and soft tissue work, I think they should all have some sort of foundation in some type of weight training or some type of exercise where they're going through those same processes themselves because then I think it gives you a really nice,

01:46:01.000 innate understanding of what you're dealing with when you get a person on your table.

01:46:05.000 You're like, oh, I can relate to that, you know?

01:46:07.000 Do you do sports-specific DVDs?

01:46:09.000 I mean, I know you've done...

01:46:11.000 How many DVDs so far?

01:46:12.000 Just those two?

01:46:13.000 Just the two.

01:46:13.000 The Extreme Kettlebell Workouts?

01:46:15.000 Which are my favorite, dude.

01:46:15.000 Yeah.

01:46:16.000 They're awesome.

01:46:17.000 Thanks. 0.99

01:46:17.000 They really are my favorite because you're in fucking shape. 0.99

01:46:20.000 I mean, you do it along with everybody. 0.99

01:46:23.000 Like, there's no fake in that.

01:46:24.000 And the intensity is absolutely real.

01:46:27.000 Yeah, you know, the first video, it's an interesting story, but I'm a bit of a procrastinator.

01:46:33.000 And so we were in Mexico when we filmed that one.

01:46:38.000 And we actually, I had to walk forever to find a part of the beach where there's not a ton of people around.

01:46:45.000 And so I had my backpack on.

01:46:47.000 And just to get the kettlebell to Mexico was hard.

01:46:52.000 Yeah, right?

01:46:53.000 It's like, what is this thing?

01:46:54.000 You want to take this?

01:46:55.000 You know, and fortunately it was 20 kilograms.

01:46:57.000 And that's what they kind of allowed on the plane.

01:46:59.000 Was that 45 pounds, 44 pounds?

01:47:01.000 Yeah, I think 44, something like that.

01:47:03.000 And so I had my backpack, so I just logged my backpack into the fragile luggage.

01:47:08.000 But we walked down to the end of this beach, and the wife and kids and me, and my wife was the camera person.

01:47:15.000 And I found this, I walked as far as I could, until there was like this big black reef and all these rocks and everything.

01:47:23.000 And I'm like, well, this is as far as I can go.

01:47:26.000 And so you'd see the odd person walking down to the end, then walking back.

01:47:29.000 But you couldn't be too close to the ocean because the waves are so loud.

01:47:33.000 And so we found this big rock that my wife could kind of hide behind with a camcorder. 1.00

01:47:38.000 Because the wind is, it was windy.

01:47:41.000 And so the day, two days before we left to go home, I'm like, I've got it.

01:47:47.000 Like I've got the masterpiece, like all the best ideas.

01:47:50.000 And I was like, every day I'd be like fine tuning things and trying them out.

01:47:54.000 And I'm like, I'm ready to do it and I'm going to do it all in one shot.

01:47:57.000 Because I want it to be the real deal.

01:47:59.000 Just like a kettlebell class.

01:48:00.000 Right.

01:48:01.000 Because I think it's like 58 minutes and I didn't even time that.

01:48:04.000 It was just luck.

01:48:06.000 Because I've taught so many one hour classes in my life that it was just like instinct.

01:48:10.000 And so yeah, all my favorite workouts were kind of on this first DVD at the time.

01:48:15.000 And so we went there, filmed it, got back to the place.

01:48:21.000 I buried the kettlebell on the beach because I thought...

01:48:24.000 Buried it on the beach?

01:48:25.000 Well, because I thought if I have any, if there's any problems, then I don't have to carry this thing.

01:48:30.000 Because I must have walked like three miles or something with this thing on my back.

01:48:34.000 And I had to walk through these different resorts all the way down the beach with my backpack.

01:48:39.000 So you, like, X marks the spot.

01:48:41.000 If you have to come back, you can just go do it again.

01:48:43.000 Yeah, I made a little notch on the rock and buried this thing, like, pretty deep.

01:48:49.000 I mean, I was paranoid.

01:48:50.000 I thought, someone's going to steal my kettlebell, but...

01:48:52.000 I don't think it would be stealing.

01:48:53.000 It would be finding.

01:48:54.000 If it came to your house, it would be stealing.

01:48:57.000 Yeah, you can't, like, leave your kettlebell on the beach and go, somebody stole it! 0.99

01:49:00.000 No, fucking left it there, dude. 0.99

01:49:03.000 They took it. 0.99

01:49:05.000 And, uh, actually, when we were in Hawaii, we, uh, we, uh, I did bury my kettlebell on the beach because I'm too lazy to take it back up to the room, and there's these guys with the...

01:49:13.000 Metal detectors?

01:49:14.000 Metal detectors, and there's one guy, he's like, he always gives me a wave, he's like, because there were a couple times where he's digging this thing up, and I'm like, oh, that's my kettlebell, and...

01:49:22.000 He's like, oh yeah, okay.

01:49:24.000 So you just leave it on the beach buried and then you come back and dig it up the next day and work out with it?

01:49:30.000 You're lazy, bro. 1.00

01:49:31.000 Just carry that thing back to your goddamn room. 1.00

01:49:33.000 Wouldn't it be an extra workout to carry it up to your room? 1.00

01:49:35.000 The farmer's walk.

01:49:36.000 Yeah.

01:49:37.000 And apparently, the farmer's walk with one weight is far superior than doing it with two weights.

01:49:37.000 Exceptional.

01:49:42.000 Really?

01:49:43.000 Yeah.

01:49:43.000 Why is that?

01:49:44.000 Because of that co-contraction on the opposite side.

01:49:46.000 That's what Stuart McGill said.

01:49:48.000 So when you do the farmer's walk, do you do X amount of paces with the right side, then switch it to the left side?

01:49:53.000 I think you're supposed to do that, yeah.

01:49:54.000 Hmm.

01:49:55.000 That's interesting that it's superior if you're holding it on one side.

01:49:58.000 I would have thought just the opposite.

01:50:00.000 Really?

01:50:01.000 Yeah.

01:50:01.000 I would have thought it would be superior to have it equally balanced one weight on each side.

01:50:06.000 Well, it's kind of like when you go to the gym and you see guys working on their obliques and they've got like the heavy dumbbells in each hand.

01:50:12.000 It's kind of like this one's pulling you this way and this one's pulling you that way.

01:50:15.000 Right.

01:50:16.000 Is that as good as just having one and doing it on one side and then doing it on the other?

01:50:20.000 It's kind of like, almost helps pull it over.

01:50:22.000 What's your take on two-handed windmills?

01:50:24.000 Because that's one of the exercises that I really love.

01:50:25.000 I love windmills with a kettlebell in each hand, and then when you drop the kettlebell down, you do a curl with that kettlebell.

01:50:31.000 What do they call it?

01:50:32.000 The two-hands anyhow.

01:50:33.000 Yeah, is that what they call it?

01:50:34.000 Two-hands anyhow? 1.00

01:50:36.000 That's a dumb name. 0.99

01:50:37.000 You haven't heard that? 1.00

01:50:38.000 No, but I like it.

01:50:40.000 It's a big one.

01:50:40.000 I like that exercise.

01:50:41.000 That's an excellent exercise.

01:50:43.000 Imagine the amount of force you're putting on the core compared to just one kettlebell.

01:50:47.000 Well, when I hurt my back from jiu-jitsu, I really started concentrating more on back exercises and core exercises and strengthening exercises because I recognized that there's...

01:50:57.000 This injury that I was getting in jiu-jitsu, it was a weak link injury.

01:51:01.000 It's like there was a weak link in my chain and the weak link was the core, my back.

01:51:05.000 I wasn't doing enough curls, chin-ups rather, rows.

01:51:09.000 I wasn't doing enough back exercises and I switched my workouts to almost primarily that as opposed to primarily pushing like benching and things along those lines.

01:51:18.000 Yeah, the two hands anyhow, that's a great exercise.

01:51:22.000 Since we're on the subject of windmills, that is one exercise that sometimes I see people going too deep with.

01:51:31.000 There's that depth where it feels like your hamstrings are going to snap, and I think that's where some people, they'll take it just a little bit further so that they can touch the floor or the ground or whatever.

01:51:40.000 If you can make sure that you're aware of where your body's ending up, And keep that core tight because there's that point where you get to the point where, okay, my hamstrings, that's as far as they're going to go.

01:51:50.000 And then there's that little extra.

01:51:53.000 If you can stop short of that so that you maintain that nice, super stiff core, you probably already do that.

01:51:58.000 But some people that don't have as much flexibility, and I watched myself on the video the other day.

01:52:02.000 I was doing some homework.

01:52:03.000 And I'm going a little deeper than I should on some of those windmills just because I'm trying to look cool.

01:52:08.000 But for health-wise and longevity-wise, if you can make sure that you maybe even check yourself in a mirror once in a while, make sure that your back doesn't move at all at the very bottom of that windmill.

01:52:19.000 Is that the case?

01:52:20.000 Sort of like how dips, you're not supposed to go too low on dips.

01:52:23.000 If you go too low, you put too much stress on the shoulders and too much stress on the tendons.

01:52:28.000 The front of that shoulder capsule.

01:52:30.000 It's in a vulnerable position.

01:52:33.000 So if you can go down to the point where you feel like, if I go any further, I'm just resting on my connective tissue.

01:52:38.000 If you can stop short of that, you'll keep that tension on the muscles.

01:52:42.000 But then there's an argument that your body should be able to do that.

01:52:45.000 You want to put your body into that stressful position and make those connective tissues stronger.

01:52:49.000 Sort of like a low squat, like dropping your body all the way down to your heel.

01:52:53.000 I wouldn't say never do windmills nice and deep, but if you're doing a lot of windmills, be aware of how much of your back you're using at the very bottom portion.

01:53:03.000 But mind you, that's a good thing with kettlebells. 0.84

01:53:05.000 Most people aren't using so much weight that they have to worry about that.

01:53:08.000 Even someone that's really advanced, usually they're not using much more than 40 pounds or something like that.

01:53:14.000 For windmills?

01:53:15.000 Well, I mean for part of the video.

01:53:16.000 Like part of the extended workouts.

01:53:18.000 Oh, for your workouts.

01:53:19.000 Yeah.

01:53:20.000 Well, when I do your workouts, I do the windmill with...

01:53:23.000 I usually do 35 pounds or 45 pounds.

01:53:25.000 But when I do windmills just as a standalone, I do 70s.

01:53:28.000 Yeah.

01:53:28.000 So I just think it's a really great exercise for shoulder stability as well.

01:53:33.000 What about with get-ups?

01:53:33.000 Yeah.

01:53:35.000 Do you go pretty heavy on those too?

01:53:36.000 Yeah, I like to do get-ups with 70s.

01:53:37.000 You can.

01:53:38.000 It's such a neat exercise because you can go super heavy and just...

01:53:42.000 I didn't really give her on that.

01:53:44.000 Well, it seems to me like a really good stability exercise as far as your ability to maintain your stance, maintain your pushing on things, holding your ground.

01:53:54.000 I mean, you're doing such a weird exercise.

01:53:57.000 You stand like that, and it's so control-based, like dropping down, laying flat, holding the kettlebell up, pressing it all over again.

01:54:05.000 It's a very good, slow, controlled exercise.

01:54:08.000 It keeps everything solid.

01:54:10.000 Yeah, I love that one.

01:54:13.000 So anyway, I looked at the video that we had taken that day.

01:54:18.000 And my wife is so honest, I love it, that about her.

01:54:21.000 And she looked at it and she's like, you're doing it way too fast.

01:54:25.000 People aren't going to be able to keep up to this.

01:54:27.000 And I'm like, and I did not want to do this again.

01:54:31.000 Of course I left it until the last day.

01:54:33.000 And I'm like, oh, let me take a look at that.

01:54:35.000 And so I'm like, oh God, that is fast.

01:54:38.000 I'm just trying to get this over with.

01:54:39.000 That looks terrible.

01:54:41.000 Too fast, like an ineffective workout, or too hard to do?

01:54:46.000 I think for a lot of people, maybe a little bit too little time between repetitions.

01:54:53.000 Yeah, a little bit too fast.

01:54:56.000 But shouldn't they aspire to be able to do it the way you're doing it?

01:55:00.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:55:01.000 Have you ever thought about doing like an advanced version for fucking people like me? 0.99

01:55:05.000 Studs? 0.99

01:55:06.000 That's where the double kettlebell one is going to come up with.

01:55:08.000 You're going to love that.

01:55:09.000 Okay.

01:55:10.000 Maybe I'm not going to eat my words.

01:55:15.000 And then I put it on the TV with the little cables and the wind noise was insane.

01:55:21.000 It was like you couldn't hear a thing.

01:55:23.000 So you had to do it again?

01:55:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:25.000 I'm like, oh, God, we've got to go back there tomorrow.

01:55:27.000 I don't not only have to do one or two chapters over again, I have to do the whole thing over again.

01:55:32.000 And I had, like, wicked sand rash on my wrists.

01:55:36.000 Oh, from the kettlebells hitting your wrist?

01:55:38.000 Yeah.

01:55:38.000 You know, my hands were pretty toughened up, so they were okay.

01:55:41.000 But I'm just like, oh, man, this is going to...

01:55:44.000 So that's why there's certain times during that video where I look like I'm going to die.

01:55:50.000 I am.

01:55:50.000 Like, I'm...

01:55:52.000 So I hope that came out on the video, because I hope people watch this and say, this is legit.

01:55:57.000 This guy's suffering with me.

01:55:59.000 Definitely, you're working hard.

01:56:01.000 It's impossible to not be.

01:56:03.000 It's a brutal series of exercises.

01:56:05.000 It's awesome.

01:56:06.000 Listen, dude, we're out of time, man.

01:56:07.000 But your videos are awesome.

01:56:09.000 I'm a huge fan.

01:56:10.000 I'm really happy that you came on here.

01:56:12.000 I hope more people buy them.

01:56:13.000 You can buy them at onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T. We sell them there. 1.00

01:56:17.000 You have them on your website, too.

01:56:18.000 Where's your website?

01:56:18.000 People want to go to it?

01:56:20.000 Weberphysiotherapy.ca.

01:56:23.000 Weberphysio.

01:56:25.000 We're Canadian.

01:56:26.000 Oh.

01:56:27.000 That's why it's.ca.

01:56:29.000 Don't go to.com.

01:56:30.000 What happens if you go to weberphysio.com?

01:56:32.000 I don't know.

01:56:33.000 You should buy that.

01:56:35.000 Someone's got it now.

01:56:35.000 Too late.

01:56:37.000 Someone's got it and it's filled with dicks. 1.00

01:56:38.000 It's all just black dicks. 1.00

01:56:40.000 Guaranteed. 1.00

01:56:40.000 Thank you very much, brother. 1.00

01:56:41.000 Really appreciate it.

01:56:42.000 Keith Weber, ladies and gentlemen.

01:56:43.000 And weberphysio on Twitter.

01:56:45.000 You can check out all of his videos.

01:56:51.000 Again, on Onnit.com and WeberPhysio.com.

01:56:55.000 Thank you very much, brother.

01:56:56.000 Really appreciate it.

01:56:56.000 Thank you so much.

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The Joe Rogan Experience - October 10, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience #559 - Keith Weber

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