The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #621 - Aubrey Marcus

00:00:00.000 Weirdos like zone healers or fucking freaks who are doing strange things that really relies on someone believing in it. 1.00

00:00:08.000 And if someone does believe in it, then that placebo effect does kind of has some effect, but you don't want to rely on that fucking thing. 1.00

00:00:16.000 It's nice to know that there's actually some shit going on, not just, you know, I think I feel it. 0.98

00:00:23.000 The big one for me has always been forming sentences, because obviously I talk for a living. 0.98

00:00:27.000 I talk for a living, form sentences for a living, and my ability to recall words and to pull words up instantaneously is critical.

00:00:35.000 When dealing with hecklers at a comedy club, when recalling material, when recalling Techniques or going over techniques during a UFC card when you know trying to reference something during a podcast like that's so giant man For most people for everything when you're talking to a girl when you're in a business meeting when you're in an interview and You're just out hanging out. 0.93

00:00:54.000 It's nice to be able to not go oh Yeah, you know and have to think about those those dull moments You know we've all had those dull moments when you just woke up when someone's talking to you on the phone and you're You know it's that thing like I do those fucking radio interviews sometimes, man.

00:01:10.000 And a lot of times I have to do these radio tours, like start at like 6 o'clock in the morning when I wake up, like for UFCs and stuff like that.

00:01:15.000 I have to call up all these different radio stations. 1.00

00:01:18.000 And for the first 40 minutes, I'm a fucking moron, man. 1.00

00:01:21.000 It's like, it's so hard to fire up. 1.00

00:01:23.000 And it's like, that's one thing that's like, it's so critical to highlight.

00:01:29.000 Your brain is not at a static state.

00:01:31.000 It's just not.

00:01:32.000 It's constantly moving and flowing.

00:01:35.000 And what things like Alpha Brain can do, along with, of course, meditation, proper thinking techniques, how to manage your consciousness, managing your mind, they can get you or keep you in a more positive frequency,

00:01:50.000 a better vibration, a better RPM, quicker RPM than you would be normal.

00:01:57.000 Better frequency for what you're trying to do.

00:01:59.000 I mean, you're dragging yourself out of sleep, which is theta state, which is really low, and sometimes delta state if you're a really good sleeper, which is at the very bottom part of the frequency.

00:02:08.000 And you're trying to drag yourself back out to that without, you know, and getting in the optimal frequency.

00:02:13.000 It's tough.

00:02:13.000 But yeah, these things can, and we've shown it now with these studies, help get you in that optimal brainwave frequency, which is pretty rad.

00:02:20.000 It's very exciting.

00:02:21.000 And the Boston Center for Memory, they tried a bunch of different shit this year that didn't do anything. 0.51

00:02:27.000 Yeah, so AlphaBrain broke a streak of 14 straight clinical trials from both pharmaceuticals and nutraceuticals that showed zero results.

00:02:35.000 So when they came back with the results, they were, like, pretty surprised and pretty stoked because they're used to just doing these trials, and they report every single one.

00:02:42.000 If it came back negative, they'd run the report, and they're pros.

00:02:46.000 You know, they're used to doing this.

00:02:47.000 And AlphaBrain broke that streak of 14 in a row that came back null results.

00:02:52.000 So they were fired up, especially because this is a product that has earth-grown nutrient ingredients, natural ingredients.

00:02:58.000 So natural ingredients on a healthy population and statistical significance You know, really extremely rare, according to them, from what they've seen.

00:03:07.000 And so they're pretty fired up.

00:03:09.000 Isn't it hilarious that so many different things that we consider earth-grown nutrients, you know, natural ingredients, natural ingredients, you look upon like, oh, what is that going to do?

00:03:20.000 It's like most of what you're putting in your body is supposed to be that stuff.

00:03:26.000 I mean, that's literally the building blocks of your fucking cells is vegetable matter, plant matter, protein, earth-grown nutrients. 0.97

00:03:34.000 That's what you're made out of. 0.97

00:03:35.000 Yeah, how do we get bigger?

00:03:36.000 How do we get bigger?

00:03:37.000 We get bigger because we eat these things and it becomes us, you know? 0.98

00:03:40.000 But it's funny that those things, I mean, especially, not alpha brain, obviously, because it's not illegal, but fuck, if they had found out about it a long time ago, it probably would have been illegal. 0.93

00:03:49.000 Cannabis is something that, of course, everyone that listens to this podcast knows pretty much how I feel about marijuana and how important I think it is for humanity. 0.88

00:04:00.000 But it's really, it's hitting home with me right now because I have a good friend whose mom is stage four cancer.

00:04:06.000 They took her off chemotherapy.

00:04:08.000 They put her on CBD oil.

00:04:10.000 They put her on hemp oil. 1.00

00:04:11.000 And I'm not suggesting anybody do this, by the way. 0.99

00:04:13.000 If you know someone who's on cancer, listen to your fucking doctor, okay? 0.99

00:04:17.000 Do whatever your doctor tells you to do. 0.99

00:04:18.000 However, I just want to tell you what is happening, my friend.

00:04:21.000 Because his mom, they pulled her off chemotherapy because they said she was too weak.

00:04:25.000 They said she can't do this anymore. 0.98

00:04:27.000 So he's panicking.

00:04:28.000 He's like, she's got a few months to live.

00:04:30.000 He gets her on that hemp oil, or the cannabis oil. 0.96

00:04:33.000 Her tumor shrank 30% inside of a month.

00:04:38.000 30%.

00:04:38.000 She sleeps every night where she couldn't sleep before.

00:04:41.000 She eats all the time.

00:04:42.000 Her appetite is back. 0.99

00:04:44.000 She sleeps, her appetite is back, and her tumor has shrunk by 30 fucking percent inside of a month. 0.99

00:04:50.000 That's awesome. 0.94

00:04:50.000 And it shows just how, like, improving things a little bit can start a positive cascade. 0.94

00:04:54.000 Like, you improve just enough to sleep, and then the sleep starts improving things.

00:04:58.000 And then once you sleep enough, you can eat more, and that starts improving things.

00:05:01.000 So, even if the cannabis was only a 10% increase, maybe that got her to sleep, and then maybe the sleep got her to eat.

00:05:07.000 And then all of a sudden, it starts going on down the line and making a big improvement.

00:05:11.000 Yeah, I mean, you can't discount any of the factors, even the chemotherapy, any of the things that she was doing, but the fact that the cannabis helped her so much, helped her sleep, helped her eat, and that in most states, except for, what, 18 now?

00:05:24.000 It's illegal.

00:05:25.000 And in Colorado right now, they're trying to get people to...

00:05:28.000 The sheriff's department and some other form of police department, they're trying to sue the state because they said they're upholding state and federal laws and they're not allowed to uphold the federal law against marijuana.

00:05:42.000 Why? 0.99

00:05:42.000 Because their fucking arrests are down. 0.99

00:05:44.000 The arrests are down. 1.00

00:05:45.000 They're going to have to lay off cops.

00:05:45.000 They're panicking.

00:05:47.000 Their violent crime is down by something like 15%.

00:05:49.000 They have the lowest incidence of drunk driving they've ever had in the state.

00:05:53.000 And they're making fuckloads of money off of tax dollars.

00:05:56.000 Cannabis is taxed at 39% in Colorado. 0.97

00:05:59.000 It's crazy.

00:06:00.000 They're making so much money they had to give some back, right?

00:06:02.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.

00:06:03.000 Well, we're going to start selling marijuana eventually.

00:06:05.000 But right now, we're selling alpha brains.

00:06:08.000 So go to Onnit.com, O-N-N-I-T, use the code, Rogan, and you'll save 10% off any and all supplements. 0.85

00:06:14.000 Any other Onnit shit I could say before? 0.69

00:06:16.000 There's all kinds of cool shit going on, but we'll get on with the podcast. 0.95

00:06:19.000 We got a lot of cool shit, including this stuff. 0.98

00:06:20.000 What is this, maca shit I'm drinking? 0.98

00:06:22.000 Yeah, that matcha chai latte. 0.99

00:06:24.000 So a ton of turmeric in there, some matcha green tea, a lot of health benefits.

00:06:28.000 Real whole spice chai matcha.

00:06:30.000 It's a really good drink.

00:06:31.000 Makes you feel like a hippie.

00:06:32.000 Makes you want to be around people that have incense, like some sort of macrame project going on in the background.

00:06:37.000 Some carpet that's weird, weird earthy colors.

00:06:41.000 My people!

00:06:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:06:43.000 Yeah, I'm down with a lot of hippies. 1.00

00:06:45.000 But just a few hippies would fucking ruin it for everybody else. 0.99

00:06:47.000 Yeah, hippies would try too hard. 1.00

00:06:49.000 They're like the vegan version of hippies.

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:52.000 Well, yeah, right?

00:06:53.000 Like, they're just overzealous.

00:06:54.000 But that's with everything, man. 0.99

00:06:55.000 I mean, that's like the MMA dudes that wear those fucking t-shirts on it, you know, with skulls that have bullet holes in them and, you know, strangling chickens. 0.99

00:07:04.000 It's always some fucking guy who's taking it too far. 0.99

00:07:07.000 Yeah, instead of just being, they're showing. 0.99

00:07:09.000 And as soon as you start showing, then it's a problem.

00:07:11.000 That's what it is with everything though, right?

00:07:12.000 I mean, pretty much with everything there is in this world.

00:07:15.000 What am I looking for here?

00:07:17.000 I don't know.

00:07:18.000 Should we cue the music?

00:07:19.000 Yeah.

00:07:20.000 Do we do that still?

00:07:21.000 Yeah, we kind of do that still.

00:07:24.000 Boom! 0.99

00:07:34.000 I'm really worried that I lost my wallet.

00:07:38.000 That's the worst feeling.

00:07:39.000 Is it out there?

00:07:40.000 Yeah, go check out there, Jamie.

00:07:42.000 See if you can find it out there.

00:07:43.000 I don't think it is out there, though.

00:07:44.000 I think I left it on a table in a restaurant.

00:07:48.000 It's very possible. 1.00

00:07:50.000 When you have kids, dude, you lose your fucking mind because you don't know what you're doing at any given time. 0.99

00:07:54.000 You're always like, hey, don't eat that. 1.00

00:07:55.000 Put that down.

00:07:56.000 Don't stick your finger in there.

00:07:57.000 That's electrical.

00:07:58.000 Don't chew on wires.

00:08:00.000 Put that away.

00:08:02.000 Cars are coming.

00:08:03.000 Get over here. 0.99

00:08:06.000 You're a wrangler. 0.79

00:08:07.000 I don't have a wallet right now, so hopefully somebody knows where it is.

00:08:11.000 We'll find out.

00:08:11.000 Jamie's taking too long because if it was out there, he would have found it.

00:08:15.000 We might be fucked. 0.99

00:08:18.000 Well, you know, it's the worst feeling ever, but it all works out. 0.99

00:08:22.000 Yeah, the only problem is I feel like I should do something about it before this restaurant closes.

00:08:27.000 Nothing?

00:08:28.000 Okay.

00:08:29.000 Pause it.

00:08:29.000 We're gonna be right back.

00:08:30.000 I'm gonna check my truck real quick.

00:08:31.000 Sorry.

00:08:36.000 You worried about me?

00:08:38.000 Dad, isn't that funny, man?

00:08:38.000 Like, some pieces of paper, some little cards you have on your wall that have your ID on.

00:08:42.000 I'm like, oh, no.

00:08:44.000 What if I get pulled over?

00:08:45.000 They're gonna take me to jail.

00:08:47.000 I read a horrible story about a dude who's going to jail because he's a garbage man and he was picking up the garbage before 7 a.m.

00:08:56.000 So they gave him a citation.

00:08:57.000 He goes in to deal with the citation and I don't know what he did. 0.96

00:09:04.000 He reached some agreement with the court or talked to someone who didn't understand the ramifications and they fucking sentenced him to 30 days in jail. 0.94

00:09:13.000 Oh, that's fair. 0.98

00:09:14.000 That's justice.

00:09:16.000 And, you know, I watch people, like, defend it online.

00:09:19.000 Well, he's picking up the garbage before people have a chance to put it out.

00:09:21.000 Like, what?

00:09:25.000 You think it's okay to put that guy in a cage?

00:09:27.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 You can put him in a cage.

00:09:28.000 And apparently they're allowing him to work.

00:09:31.000 During the week, and he's going to serve us 30 days on weekends.

00:09:34.000 So he's got a family, wife, kids, the whole deal.

00:09:37.000 That's like most of a year.

00:09:38.000 Yeah.

00:09:39.000 30 weekends out of the year. 0.99

00:09:40.000 How fucking insane is that? 0.99

00:09:41.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:09:42.000 Yeah.

00:09:42.000 How insane is that?

00:09:43.000 They're arresting this guy, putting him in jail, because he picked up the garbage early.

00:09:49.000 What a weird world we live in, man. 0.98

00:09:51.000 I think we're going to look back at this time and we're just going to shake our head and think, we did some weird shit in this period. 0.98

00:09:51.000 It is. 0.98

00:09:57.000 Just like we look back now, 50 years ago, 100 years ago, I mean, people were giving each other lobotomies back a long time ago.

00:10:04.000 That's where they stick an ice pick in the corner of your eye and thrash it around.

00:10:08.000 They don't even know what they're doing. 1.00

00:10:10.000 They're just trying to destroy shit. 1.00

00:10:10.000 I don't know how they're doing. 1.00

00:10:12.000 And that was like an approved therapy, along with electroshock and all this weird shit. 0.86

00:10:16.000 You know, we'll look at some of the judicial system we have and be like, what were we thinking? 0.94

00:10:20.000 Yeah, well, do you remember, there was a documentary on Hunter S. Thompson.

00:10:26.000 And in the documentary, it was, I forget who he was supporting for president, but the vice president, it was a scandal, like as they were running for president, found out that he had gone through electroshock therapy.

00:10:38.000 He'd had a few moments where shit didn't work out right with his brain, and so they decided to juice this guy up.

00:10:46.000 I mean, what is that about? 0.98

00:10:48.000 That's like the equivalent of smacking your TV when the reception's not coming in. 0.99

00:10:53.000 Just walk up to it and fucking smack it and it works. 0.99

00:10:55.000 You're like, oh, okay. 0.99

00:10:56.000 Such a crude instrument to use, too, you know?

00:10:59.000 Full on.

00:10:59.000 It's just like...

00:11:00.000 It's not like they're targeting anything, you know, like Dave Asprey might be doing now.

00:11:04.000 I mean, he still may not know exactly what he's doing, but at least he has an idea of a goal that he's going for when he's zapping his brain.

00:11:09.000 These guys was just like sticking a fork in the light socket.

00:11:12.000 Well, they had an episode of Radiolab about that stuff.

00:11:16.000 You know, something dermal, stimulation, electricity.

00:11:19.000 They're putting electrodes on certain parts of your brain.

00:11:21.000 It was really fascinating.

00:11:23.000 Yeah.

00:11:23.000 That's definitely a new frontier that could show a lot of promise, but it's getting more exact.

00:11:28.000 The more you get from this crude version to the exact version, that's where it's going to start showing promise.

00:11:33.000 Well, that's what they were saying on the Radiolab thing, that they have a bunch of people that are essentially hackers.

00:11:39.000 That are creating their own home remedies, and they're attaching these things to them.

00:11:44.000 And, you know, sometimes they do it and they lose their sense of smell.

00:11:47.000 You know, like, juicing up weird parts of your brain.

00:11:51.000 You know, you see, like, weird things out of the corner of your eyes, your feet go numb.

00:11:55.000 Like, you're just, you're applying electricity to the outside of your head.

00:11:58.000 but there's been some things where they've shown like significant improvements including the ability to focus and the ability to learn tasks like they had this woman go through a sniper training thing she did it on the natch she does it she's terrible at it she knows like this video game where the hostage situations who do you shoot and she's missing everybody she gets like two out of you know whatever the fuck the number was she does it again they strap these things to her head she does the whole twenty minute course It's over like that.

00:12:29.000 And she goes, well, why was it over so quick?

00:12:31.000 And they go, that was 20 minutes.

00:12:32.000 And she goes, no, it wasn't.

00:12:34.000 So they show her the time.

00:12:36.000 Like, this was 20 minutes.

00:12:37.000 She hits every target. 0.99

00:12:39.000 100% accuracy. 0.99

00:12:40.000 And she's like, what in the actual fuck just happened? 1.00

00:12:43.000 Like, they juiced her up with these electrodes and she became a fucking assassin. 1.00

00:12:47.000 Yeah, that's awesome. 1.00

00:12:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:12:48.000 I wonder if it was manipulating the brainwave frequency, like getting her into that alpha state zone, or whether it was, you know, prefrontal cortex blood flow, or there's a lot of different things they can do, but I think there's a lot of promise in that field.

00:13:00.000 You know, it's a shortcut that we're starting to learn.

00:13:03.000 We're still, you know, most people at least are still...

00:13:10.000 White belts in how to manage the mind.

00:13:12.000 We're amateur race car drivers with this insanely complicated piece of machinery that most people don't understand the potential of.

00:13:20.000 And there's different states that you achieve almost accidentally. 0.80

00:13:23.000 You have a couple of shots, you're at the bar, you're playing pool, you can't fucking miss. 0.61

00:13:28.000 Everybody's been there. 0.98

00:13:29.000 You think you're Tom Cruise, you look away, you fire the ball dead in the heart of the pocket.

00:13:33.000 But try recreating that a few days later and it's gone.

00:13:37.000 Maybe even an hour from now it's gone.

00:13:39.000 I think that's why the ancients used to blame it on the gods.

00:13:42.000 It was like, ah, the gods are with me.

00:13:44.000 Hermes was holding my stick on the pool table, you know?

00:13:48.000 Whatever they had, because it's so crazy.

00:13:50.000 It's like, you don't know when it's going to come.

00:13:51.000 It's like you've been gifted by the divine.

00:13:53.000 And with the ancients, too, they only lived to be, like, 20. So, like, they had to, like, figure it out real quick.

00:13:59.000 What was it?

00:14:00.000 Gods!

00:14:00.000 The gods have done this for us!

00:14:02.000 Okay, I think I have cancer.

00:14:04.000 See you guys later.

00:14:06.000 Probably wasn't even cancer, right?

00:14:08.000 The flu.

00:14:09.000 Syphilis.

00:14:09.000 Yeah.

00:14:10.000 Something that got all the ancients.

00:14:11.000 Yeah, they got the VD, right?

00:14:12.000 Who was the first dude to get VD? Who's that dirty bastard? 1.00

00:14:15.000 There had to be like a first guy. 1.00

00:14:17.000 Yeah, you'd think, right?

00:14:18.000 Unless it's just been around forever.

00:14:20.000 Just the bane of existence.

00:14:22.000 But it's funny that there's a specific disease. 1.00

00:14:25.000 Nobody catches the flu from eating pussy. 1.00

00:14:27.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

00:14:28.000 You get specific diseases from sex.

00:14:31.000 Sexually transmitted diseases.

00:14:33.000 Although Michael Douglas got that weird one from Eating So Much Box where he got throat cancer.

00:14:37.000 He says he didn't. 0.99

00:14:38.000 He says that that was bullshit. 0.99

00:14:40.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:14:40.000 Oh, really? 1.00

00:14:41.000 But it coincided with his divorce, so I'm not sure if I buy it.

00:14:45.000 He might even try to sweet-talk his way back into Catherine Zeta-Jones.

00:14:49.000 What's her name?

00:14:50.000 That's her name? 0.70

00:14:50.000 That's the one. 0.70

00:14:51.000 Yeah.

00:14:52.000 That didn't work out.

00:14:54.000 So they got divorced. 1.00

00:14:55.000 So maybe it was eating pussy. 1.00

00:14:56.000 Maybe if you pull them aside and go, come on, man, how much pussy do you eat? 1.00

00:14:59.000 Oh, good lord. 1.00

00:15:00.000 Yeah.

00:15:01.000 I'm imagining it's a lot.

00:15:02.000 I was actually at a dinner party where he was at, and he's the man. 0.98

00:15:06.000 As far as having just that natural charisma where you just want to just pull up a seat and listen to him tell a story, it could be about him getting a fucking Starbucks. 0.98

00:15:15.000 It didn't really matter. 0.97

00:15:16.000 When Michael Douglas was telling a story, it was like, whoa.

00:15:19.000 He's had a lot of experience, man, including catastrophic failures as a parent.

00:15:24.000 He's got a son that's in jail for drugs.

00:15:27.000 That's got to be really weird.

00:15:29.000 That often happens with those big-time movie star fellows and gals. 1.00

00:15:34.000 They become big-time movie stars and they just don't have enough time to raise their kids.

00:15:38.000 And then the kids are around these really super unhealthy environments and a lot of empty pleasure environments and a lack of understanding, discipline, and then also genetic predisposition to addictions that he had and obviously his son Charlie has.

00:15:57.000 You know, who knows, other folks in his family might have had as well.

00:16:01.000 It's a bittersweet life.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, it's challenging.

00:16:04.000 And I think the way that I look at it is it's extra pressure. 0.94

00:16:08.000 It's not like it's inevitable that you're going to be fucked up in that situation, but it's extra pressure. 0.91

00:16:12.000 And so you have to do extra things to be able to combat that. 0.90

00:16:15.000 You know, you really have to focus on your discipline.

00:16:18.000 Do things like...

00:16:19.000 You know, spiritual journeys and meditation and psychedelics and things that you got to say, listen, this is going to be the pressure of the world in this situation is going to try and steer me this way.

00:16:28.000 So I got to overcompensate by working that much harder to make sure I stay grounded and stay balanced.

00:16:34.000 But those, you know, those mechanisms aren't in place and they're not part of mainstream understanding.

00:16:39.000 So, you know, whereas maybe in 50 years, a person like Michael Douglas will be like, listen, Here's your 18th birthday.

00:16:45.000 You're going down to Peru.

00:16:46.000 I know this shaman really well.

00:16:48.000 I'll see you in two weeks.

00:16:49.000 And then every year thereafter, you're doing something else, you know, staying in an ashram for two weeks.

00:16:55.000 He's got to know that there's so much pressure that he can help kind of guide this.

00:16:58.000 But right now, it's just nobody knows that much.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, could you imagine if you grew up and your dad was a giant movie star and you go on the red carpet holding your dad's hand and you're like...

00:17:06.000 Also, you have to live in that guy's shadow.

00:17:09.000 Yeah.

00:17:10.000 You know, like, what are you doing, man?

00:17:11.000 Oh, you run a bakery?

00:17:13.000 You're Michael Douglas's kid.

00:17:15.000 Right. 1.00

00:17:16.000 Fucking dad's a- he won the Oscar! 1.00

00:17:18.000 I don't even know if he won an Oscar. 1.00

00:17:19.000 I'm sure he did. 1.00

00:17:20.000 One of those fucking things. 1.00

00:17:21.000 That's something or another, yeah. 1.00

00:17:21.000 I'm sure. 1.00

00:17:22.000 You know, what a fucking weird batch of pressure that is. 0.98

00:17:26.000 You know, I have friends that their dads are, like, pretty successful, and they still, like, they're adults. 0.99

00:17:31.000 They live under the shadow of their dad.

00:17:33.000 Even if they're more successful than their dad.

00:17:35.000 It's like, see?

00:17:41.000 It's a weird dynamic.

00:17:42.000 They call that the Oedipal Complex, right? 0.99

00:17:44.000 Where you have that urge to kill your father.

00:17:47.000 And it's not literally kill your father, but it means to overcome what his greatness was. 0.99

00:17:52.000 Be better than him in some way or another. 1.00

00:17:54.000 And fuck your mom. 1.00

00:17:56.000 And fuck your mother. 1.00

00:17:57.000 Yeah, I don't even know how to explain that part. 1.00

00:17:59.000 But yeah, that's part of this drive to be better than the generation before you.

00:18:04.000 It's why a lot of times, even in South America, the shamans, they train father to grandson rather than father to son. 0.98

00:18:12.000 They skip a generation to avoid that kind of power dynamic because they know it's going to be kind of fucked up. 0.83

00:18:19.000 If they're both practicing at the same time, it's always going to be weird. 0.93

00:18:22.000 That's really clever.

00:18:24.000 Yeah.

00:18:24.000 That's so clever that they do that.

00:18:26.000 It was probably out of just sheer necessity, you know?

00:18:30.000 I got a way better relationship with my grandfather than I ever did with my father.

00:18:33.000 My grandfather, like, there's no pressure on him.

00:18:35.000 Exactly.

00:18:36.000 You know, he'd already raised kids.

00:18:37.000 I was his, you know, his daughter's kid.

00:18:39.000 It was easy.

00:18:40.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Hung out with that dude, went fishing with him and shit, you know? 0.98

00:18:43.000 And he's not wrapped up in the ego of, that's my boy. 0.99

00:18:46.000 You know, that's a big problem that fathers get caught up in, too.

00:18:48.000 They identify with their children, and that becomes part of their identity.

00:18:52.000 And then they put so much pressure on these kids for their own benefit rather than just, hey, you're a human.

00:18:58.000 You know, what's best for you, buddy?

00:19:00.000 Yeah.

00:19:00.000 Yeah, that's real hard for people, man.

00:19:02.000 I've seen that with people trying to dictate their children's careers.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 I had a friend when I grew up who was Korean, and Korean families, I don't know if you have any Korean friends, but Korean families are incredibly hardworking, like incredibly strict, incredibly disciplined.

00:19:19.000 Like, he was one of the most disciplined people I've ever met.

00:19:21.000 He was on the National Taekwondo team when he was going through his, uh, he was going through medical school.

00:19:29.000 So he was in the middle of medical school, and he was also on the National Taekwondo team. 0.99

00:19:34.000 Like, well, fucking do that, man. 0.99

00:19:36.000 I mean, he won the nationals as a fucking medical student. 1.00

00:19:40.000 This guy, I mean, he was studying 16 hours a day, and he found time to train. 0.98

00:19:44.000 He would, in between training, or in between studying at the library, he would run stairs at his university.

00:19:50.000 Wow.

00:19:51.000 He would just run the stairs.

00:19:52.000 Like, with his street clothes on.

00:19:54.000 And that's how he got some of his conditioning in.

00:19:56.000 Yeah, I've watched our researcher, Jarrett, as soon as he started medical school.

00:20:00.000 He was practicing BJJ. He was living in Brazil.

00:20:03.000 We met him in Brazil.

00:20:04.000 He's kind of stout, and he's just killing it in there.

00:20:06.000 I've seen the circles get deeper, and he's losing weight.

00:20:09.000 He still finds a little time here and there, but it's a grind.

00:20:13.000 I can't imagine that anybody thinks it's the way to do it.

00:20:17.000 I think everybody's just been doing it like that for so long, but how is it possible that they let doctors work these giant long-ass shifts completely exhausted and take care of people's medical issues and possibly fuck things up because they're exhausted, just because of fatigue?

00:20:34.000 Yeah, and it's kind of like that Navy SEAL type of training.

00:20:38.000 They put you through enough pressure in medical school or in BUDS training, as it is for the Navy SEALs, that they can trust you in battle with people's lives on the line.

00:20:45.000 And I think that's why they make medical school that hard. 0.96

00:20:49.000 It's like a gauntlet that if you pass this motherfucker, then you'll be able to handle these longships, especially when you're interning at a hospital and doing all those. 0.98

00:20:57.000 I think it's probably the right move for SEALs. 0.99

00:21:00.000 Right.

00:21:00.000 But for doctors, I just feel like, Jesus, why don't you have more doctors?

00:21:04.000 You know, why don't you have extra doctors instead of making one guy work 18 hours a fucking day? 0.99

00:21:04.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:09.000 My friend Steve, I think you met Steve Graham, Dr. Steve.

00:21:13.000 When we were friends in Boston, he was going through his residency.

00:21:18.000 He was an ophthalmologist. 0.94

00:21:20.000 And he told me that he was on the toilet, taking a shit, with a tray of food in his lap. 0.98

00:21:28.000 He fell asleep and his buzzer went off. 0.99

00:21:30.000 And that's when he realized, like, like, what the fuck am I doing with my life? 0.99

00:21:34.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:21:35.000 He fell asleep on the toilet while he was eating.

00:21:39.000 And the buzzer, like his pager was back when he had pagers, doctors.

00:21:43.000 I think doctors still have pagers, some of them.

00:21:44.000 I think they actually do.

00:21:45.000 They're like still, they're the only ones with pagers.

00:21:47.000 Drug dealers and doctors.

00:21:49.000 Can you trace people through pagers? 0.99

00:21:51.000 No, you can't, there's no fucking payphones anymore. 0.98

00:21:53.000 So if you're a drug dealer and you're trying to do things on the street, like you have to have a toss-away phone. 0.99

00:21:58.000 You got burners.

00:21:59.000 You gotta have a burner phone.

00:22:00.000 Yeah.

00:22:00.000 How long before they make those illegal?

00:22:02.000 Drug dealers and adulterers buying cricket phones all day.

00:22:05.000 Yeah, how many people like buy those legitimately?

00:22:08.000 How many people like buy burner phones and like, I just like, I like this phone.

00:22:12.000 This is my phone.

00:22:13.000 Like, nobody.

00:22:14.000 No.

00:22:14.000 7-Eleven phones.

00:22:15.000 No, that doesn't happen.

00:22:17.000 One thing about doctors, people give doctors a hard time, especially because of this medical crisis that we're in, but I really don't think it's the doctor's fault.

00:22:25.000 They're trained to follow clinical research, and they do that really, really well.

00:22:31.000 They follow clinical research.

00:22:32.000 The problem is that the people funding clinical research have a vested interest.

00:22:36.000 They're researching products that they want to sell.

00:22:38.000 They're not researching, hey, let's see what happens if we feed this guy a natural diet and do that against placebo.

00:22:45.000 Well, that's a couple hundred grand that Nobody's paying for it because nobody's making any money off that.

00:22:49.000 So there's an absence of clinical research showing these other kind of functional medicine and non-profit ways that people can get healthy.

00:22:58.000 And I think that really, when you're looking at kind of correcting some of the issues in medicine, that's what needs to happen.

00:23:04.000 Big non-profit groups need to get together and start funding clinical trials for these things that have no profitable viability.

00:23:12.000 You know, just studying healthy diets, studying, you know, what happens if you float for, you know, every day for six weeks, studying what happens when you do all of these other things that you can't possibly make money off of, and I think that's going to make a big difference.

00:23:25.000 That is, and it's also, try talking to a doctor about something that's outside of his wheelhouse, and, you know, you've got to get a lot of, you know, like, what do you think about, you know, ask a doctor about, Meditation or oh yeah, you know that's not gonna that guy's fucking busy man He's got 18 different patients waiting in his office And that's not his field of study and you can't possibly know everything about the human body when it comes to Every single function of the human body all the different mechanisms involves in absorbing nutrients and absorbing like the different things

00:23:55.000 that can go wrong in various organs like you specialize They specialize for a reason.

00:24:00.000 There's a reason why foot doctors aren't also neurosurgeons, you know You can't be.

00:24:05.000 You can't be.

00:24:06.000 And it's sort of analogous to life.

00:24:08.000 Like, in life, you can't know everything about everything in life.

00:24:11.000 And doctors just, most, you run into a lot of doctors, and you don't want to trade bodies with them.

00:24:17.000 You know, like, you're a doctor. 0.94

00:24:19.000 Like, you're a guy who's supposed to be, like, managing, like, the health and wellness of these people that are in your care, at least as far as fixing them when shit goes wrong. 1.00

00:24:28.000 But you've got a pot belly, and you don't have an ass. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Like, you have bad posture, your neck is kind of slumped forward, like... 1.00

00:24:37.000 And you're a doctor.

00:24:38.000 So you're not on the ball with everything either.

00:24:41.000 No one is.

00:24:42.000 It's literally a virtual impossibility to be complete as far as your education about the entire human body and every single organ and everything that can go wrong and everything that you can do right to prevent all these things from going wrong.

00:24:57.000 And to really have a deep knowledge in the benefits of all these different things like yoga and meditation and super healthy, you know, nutrient-rich diets, you've got to do it.

00:25:07.000 You have to actually do that. 0.95

00:25:08.000 You have to have a shitty... 0.99

00:25:09.000 Like, Rich Roll, who's going to be on the podcast again soon, I've had him in the past, and he's an ultra-marathon runner who became this, like, fucking health and wellness fanatic, and he used to eat shit food and a terrible diet, and then started, like, juicing beets and eating healthy vegetables, 0.99

00:25:25.000 and his whole body was like, what's going on? 0.88

00:25:27.000 And he, like, described, like, one day where he just got out and just started running.

00:25:31.000 Like, he had so much energy, he just started running.

00:25:33.000 Well, it takes a guy like that to give you...

00:25:37.000 I mean, obviously, it's an anecdotal experience.

00:25:39.000 It's just one guy's take on what happened, but...

00:25:43.000 Those stories are super important.

00:25:46.000 If you really do change your diet and throw a bunch of healthy, low-fat meats and high-nutrient vegetables Eat really healthy foods.

00:26:01.000 You will feel different.

00:26:03.000 Like your way you interface with the world will feel different.

00:26:07.000 Eat a lot of avocados and coconut oil.

00:26:10.000 Get those healthy fats for your brain.

00:26:11.000 You feel different.

00:26:13.000 No doubt about it.

00:26:14.000 It's undeniable. 0.95

00:26:15.000 It's not a fucking aesthetic thing. 0.97

00:26:17.000 It's not like, I wanna look good on the beach, I'm gonna starve myself. 0.96

00:26:20.000 That's not even healthy.

00:26:21.000 Look at her, she's not even healthy. 1.00

00:26:22.000 Like, I saw this photo.

00:26:23.000 These chicks were bombing on this girl. 1.00

00:26:24.000 It was hilarious.

00:26:26.000 Because it was a girl who was just thin. 0.99

00:26:28.000 She was just thin.

00:26:29.000 She didn't look like she was anorexic at all. 1.00

00:26:31.000 But all these women were just shitting on her body. 1.00

00:26:35.000 Like, oh God, get her a sandwich. 1.00

00:26:37.000 Oh God, she's too thin.

00:26:38.000 She has thin bones, man. 1.00

00:26:40.000 You look at this girl, that's how she's built. 1.00

00:26:42.000 But nobody wants to accept that.

00:26:44.000 They want to think that there's something wrong with this girl. 1.00

00:26:47.000 You're supposed to be overflowing over the top of your fucking jeans. 1.00

00:26:50.000 You're supposed to have big floppy meat bags in between your legs that rub together when you walk. 1.00

00:26:57.000 It's easier to think that than to go the other way.

00:26:59.000 She's not healthy.

00:26:59.000 That's healthy.

00:27:03.000 The best doctor I know is Dr. Engel, and we work with him on it.

00:27:06.000 So he was trained as a psychiatrist, clinical forensic child psychiatry, got his MD, and then was like, I don't really think this is the whole picture.

00:27:15.000 So he was like, alright, I'm going to go completely the other way.

00:27:18.000 Went down to South America and did 40 sessions of ayahuasca in 60 nights.

00:27:23.000 And did way too much, like fried himself to a certain degree.

00:27:26.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

00:27:27.000 So then he had to go live in a tent for a little while, figure some shit out. 0.99

00:27:31.000 He's like, that was way too much. 0.62

00:27:32.000 So he lived in a tent on a land for like a year, and then he started studying different kind of functional medicine, but he put himself in the lab with all these things.

00:27:40.000 Sometimes he screwed up, sometimes he got it right, but now he's able to combine, you know, the best part of Western medicine is MD, the best part of, you know, the shamanistic practices from South America, the best part of functional medicine and natural medicine, and kind of put it all together, and that's That's where the doctors can become great.

00:27:57.000 Because maybe they're not specialists, but the problem with specialists is everything in the body is interconnected and related.

00:28:03.000 So if you're only specializing in one thing, you're going to focus on that potentially to the detriment of the rest of your body.

00:28:09.000 So having that at least basic understanding of the connection between all the parts of the body is incredibly valuable for a doctor.

00:28:17.000 And then also putting themselves through all the things. 0.96

00:28:19.000 How are you going to talk shit on what ayahuasca can do unless you've done it? 0.98

00:28:22.000 Right. 0.99

00:28:22.000 There's no way to know what that experience is. 0.99

00:28:26.000 Same with prescribing these drugs.

00:28:27.000 It's like you're prescribing drugs that you've never even taken.

00:28:31.000 How do you know what this is going to do to somebody?

00:28:33.000 It's a weird kind of place that we're in right now.

00:28:36.000 Well, I have a friend...

00:28:38.000 Have some of that, fella?

00:28:39.000 It's good for you.

00:28:40.000 I have a friend who...

00:28:42.000 Her husband went over to Germany for artificial disc replacement. 1.00

00:28:48.000 And he's fucked. 0.99

00:28:50.000 And so they replaced a bunch of his discs. 1.00

00:28:50.000 His back is fucked. 1.00

00:28:55.000 And uh, he's way better now. 1.00

00:28:58.000 Like, way better now.

00:28:58.000 He's skiing again.

00:28:59.000 Like, his back was fucked. 0.99

00:29:01.000 And apparently they have these discs in Germany, these artificial discs, that they just can't sell in America. 0.99

00:29:06.000 They just can't sell them.

00:29:07.000 Nope.

00:29:07.000 They're just not ready yet.

00:29:08.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 Maybe there's a good reason.

00:29:09.000 For whatever reason.

00:29:10.000 I mean, maybe they're more thorough over here, and maybe they prevent people from, you know, having to get those old silicone breast implants pulled out, like that kind of shit. 0.99

00:29:19.000 Yeah, when one pops. 0.99

00:29:21.000 Giving you fucking lupus or some shit, and that happens to people. 1.00

00:29:24.000 They get autoimmune disorders because their tits leak. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Yeah, but these discs, Braulio Estima got one in his neck. 0.97

00:29:32.000 He had a jujitsu injury and a really bad neck injury where he's temporarily paralyzed and the whole deal.

00:29:40.000 Went and got his disc replaced.

00:29:43.000 Fought, won the World Championships afterwards, his fight in MMA afterwards.

00:29:48.000 I mean, he's gone through this incredibly devastating injury, and with an artificial disc in his neck, still getting yanked on.

00:29:55.000 He's still getting choked.

00:29:56.000 Not that often. 0.99

00:29:57.000 He's pretty fucking good. 0.97

00:29:58.000 He doesn't really get choked very often. 0.98

00:29:59.000 But the point being, he's got full functionality.

00:30:02.000 This guy had discs fused in his back.

00:30:02.000 And so does this guy.

00:30:04.000 Went to Germany, they opened all that shit up, unfused his discs, I guess. 0.99

00:30:08.000 I don't know if they did that. 0.99

00:30:09.000 And they put these artificial discs in place, and now he's fucking moving around. 0.99

00:30:12.000 Like, it's crazy! 0.99

00:30:13.000 That's awesome.

00:30:14.000 But I was talking to my doctor about it.

00:30:15.000 I go, so they don't do that in America?

00:30:17.000 You can't do it in America.

00:30:18.000 But do you recommend it?

00:30:19.000 He goes, I definitely recommend it.

00:30:21.000 If you have the funds, like if someone has got a really fucked up back and they have the funds, he's like, yeah, it's worth doing.

00:30:27.000 And it's not like Germany's a free-for-all.

00:30:29.000 And a lot of things, they're even more strict than us.

00:30:31.000 I mean, I'm pretty sure all vitamins are pharmaceuticals pretty much in Germany. 0.99

00:30:35.000 Like, we can't sell shit in Germany. 0.99

00:30:36.000 Really? 1.00

00:30:37.000 Because they control everything very carefully out there.

00:30:40.000 So...

00:30:41.000 They prescribe them, though, at least?

00:30:43.000 They prescribe vitamins?

00:30:44.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:30:45.000 I mean, I'm not an expert on that, but I know the prohibition for us sending anything, even our vitamin C supplements, and they're like, no, no, no vitamin C. That's a pharmaceutical.

00:30:53.000 Wow.

00:30:54.000 Whoa.

00:30:55.000 That's crazy.

00:30:56.000 But, yeah, I mean.

00:30:57.000 Well, that's what they invented, that Regenikine, which I'm a giant fan of.

00:31:01.000 You know, I've had that done several times now, man.

00:31:03.000 You want to talk about something that just cuts your injury, like, the recovery time down radically. 0.99

00:31:10.000 It's very expensive, but if you have something that's really fucking with you, a nagging injury, oftentimes it just nips that shit in the bud. 0.96

00:31:18.000 It's available finally in America, but insurance doesn't cover it. 0.99

00:31:21.000 You have to pay for it yourself.

00:31:22.000 But it's like, what is this insurance?

00:31:24.000 Like, why doesn't this...

00:31:25.000 And they, like, it's off-label.

00:31:26.000 Like, what does this mean?

00:31:27.000 Like, I'm not complaining that it's here. 0.86

00:31:30.000 I'm happy that at least you could use it, because you still can't do the artificial discs or any of that other shit.

00:31:34.000 But it's going to come a point in time where you've got to go, is this the most efficient system?

00:31:39.000 Yeah, no doubt.

00:31:40.000 I think really we're at a really cool time where all kinds of new shit is coming out and it's going to be like the best of what technology can do and I think the next big piece is going to become in harnessing what the mind can do.

00:31:53.000 I was doing a little bit of research because I'm doing a lot of writing now and there was a study published in 2002 where they took 180 patients and they gave half of them a fake placebo knee surgery and the other half arthroscopic knee surgery. 0.85

00:32:06.000 But everybody thought they were getting real knee surgery.

00:32:09.000 So it was placebo-controlled knee surgery.

00:32:11.000 And the results were absolutely on par.

00:32:14.000 The people who got placebo-controlled knee surgery were cruising around.

00:32:17.000 They were walking around fine.

00:32:18.000 And people who got actual arthroscopic knee surgery were also doing a lot better as well.

00:32:22.000 Whoa.

00:32:23.000 So, I mean, and that's something that isn't tested very often in surgery because people don't think, how do you do a placebo surgery?

00:32:29.000 Well, they've done that with, there's a study in the 1950s that did it with a particular type of heart surgery where people, they gave people placebo heart surgery and real surgery.

00:32:39.000 The results were on par.

00:32:41.000 And so I think understanding how much that plays an effect, because if you go to surgery and you come out and you're all right, you think you're fixed.

00:32:48.000 You know, like, man, the doctors are in there. 1.00

00:32:50.000 They know shit. 1.00

00:32:50.000 They were cutting shit up. 1.00

00:32:51.000 They were sewing it up. 1.00

00:32:52.000 I'm good.

00:32:53.000 So that placebo effect, even in surgery, is dramatic.

00:32:57.000 It's huge.

00:32:58.000 And I think, really, the frontiers of medicine are going to be harnessing the stuff that really does work and add benefit, and then us tapping into these latent resources in our mind and using belief to help speed up and facilitate even additional healing.

00:33:12.000 That's amazing.

00:33:12.000 On the other hand, I really appreciate the fact that there's steps that people have to go through before they can sell a pharmaceutical drug.

00:33:20.000 Because we've all been...

00:33:23.000 Aware of someone and close to us or something that had an adverse effect of some Pharmaceutical drug that you see in those late-night commercials.

00:33:31.000 Were you one of the ones who took Vioxx or Fen-Fen?

00:33:34.000 Remember Fen-Fen? 0.99

00:33:36.000 Goddamn son that fucked people's hearts up like for life Like there's people that have like fucking tricky hearts now because of some diet pills Lose fat but and your life Yeah, man, I know a dude who had a stroke because he was taking Guy Metzger, UFC fighter, 0.99

00:33:52.000 former champion, a great fighter, great guy too, really cool guy. 1.00

00:33:56.000 Yeah, I met him. 0.99

00:33:57.000 He got a fucking stroke from Vioxx, dude. 1.00

00:34:00.000 He's taking this shit for arthritis in his knees and all of a sudden he starts slurring his words and everyone's like, um, Guy, something's going on. 1.00

00:34:07.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:34:08.000 They take him in, they find out he's got a stroke.

00:34:10.000 You know, and on top of a lifelong career of MMA fighting, he was actually talking about some interesting therapy that he's going through.

00:34:19.000 Something that's really benefited him, benefited his balance.

00:34:22.000 See if you can pull that up.

00:34:24.000 Guy Metzger, I don't have a laptop in front of me, but Guy Metzger discusses brain trauma video.

00:34:31.000 It's really interesting.

00:34:33.000 First of all, because...

00:34:35.000 Guy Metzger, who is a pioneer.

00:34:38.000 I mean, I called one of his fights, one of his early UFC fights in 97. You know, I've known that guy for a long time.

00:34:44.000 He's always been like a super stand-up, looks like a movie star, looks like a hero in a movie.

00:34:50.000 He's been just a cool dude, like always.

00:34:53.000 And even in this situation, it's really cool because he's super honest about how he feels, like how he feels physically as opposed to how he used to feel and like what was going wrong.

00:35:03.000 And he talked about the improvements that he had.

00:35:06.000 It's hilarious, actually, because he talks about the improvements that he has.

00:35:09.000 Like, you know, he's talking about brain trauma from fighting and then a stroke.

00:35:13.000 And then later on, he's talking about now he can spar again. 1.00

00:35:17.000 He's sparring with some fucking young whippersnapper that came into his gym, and the doctor's like, what the fuck are you doing? 0.99

00:35:23.000 He's like, don't worry, he didn't hit me. 1.00

00:35:24.000 He's like, you didn't hit me! 1.00

00:35:25.000 You're in there fucking sparring, man! 1.00

00:35:28.000 But, you know, he's a world champion. 1.00

00:35:30.000 When you're a guy like Guy Massacre, he has legit striking skills, too.

00:35:34.000 It's fun for him.

00:35:35.000 It's like being a chess master and not being able to play chess anymore.

00:35:38.000 Yeah, man.

00:35:39.000 That's where he gets his jollies.

00:35:40.000 Is this it?

00:35:40.000 I don't know.

00:35:41.000 Let me see, play it, and I'll tell you if it is.

00:35:41.000 I'm just asking you.

00:35:45.000 Yeah, this is it.

00:35:46.000 You'll be able to move around without your cane.

00:35:50.000 Especially vets with brain injuries.

00:35:52.000 I don't believe we do enough.

00:35:53.000 To be honest, I think we give a lot of lip service to helping our vets, but not a lot of action.

00:35:59.000 Some Metzger's changing that.

00:36:03.000 This is a different thing, but this is cool that he's doing that.

00:36:07.000 Keep your hands up, son.

00:36:11.000 He's in Addison, Texas.

00:36:20.000 I had a 17-year-long professional fight career, and I had a medicine-induced stroke, and I have a brain tumor.

00:36:33.000 We try to attach these guys back to that element that made them become, you know, soldiers in the first place.

00:36:44.000 This is a different thing.

00:36:45.000 See if you can find the other one, because the other one he details is therapy that he went through that helped him.

00:36:50.000 But that's cool that you can see from that video what kind of a guy he is. 0.97

00:36:55.000 So what was important was that he was talking about it in this really honest way, like his balance is all fucked up. 0.88

00:37:04.000 He wasn't trying to shield himself, like, hey, I still got it, don't worry about that. 0.91

00:37:07.000 You know, he was being like real humble and honest about the state that he's in.

00:37:13.000 They're making some headway with brain trauma.

00:37:15.000 It's interesting.

00:37:16.000 There's some therapies that are effective.

00:37:18.000 No doubt.

00:37:18.000 And I think it's going to come from a basket of really cures at this point.

00:37:22.000 You know, everybody, it's not going to be one magic bullet.

00:37:25.000 It's going to be a variety of different things.

00:37:27.000 Yeah.

00:37:27.000 And stacking these modalities, like CBD has some potential.

00:37:31.000 Intranasal liposomal glutathione has some potential.

00:37:34.000 Floating has some potential.

00:37:35.000 Microdosing psilocybin might have some potential.

00:37:38.000 There's been shown some neurogenesis that comes from that.

00:37:41.000 But all of these things that are...

00:37:43.000 Disparate right now.

00:37:44.000 I think ultimately maybe when put together might be the solution.

00:37:48.000 Yeah, that's the solution, right? 0.98

00:37:49.000 The solution is it's not an either-or thing It's not of you have to go the conventional route with pharmaceutical drugs and a doctor's prescription or you go the fruitcake route with holistic medicine You're doing yoga and eating fucking kelp.

00:38:02.000 It doesn't have to be it could be all the good stuff all the good stuff the good stuff that seems woo-woo You talk to people who do kundalini yoga.

00:38:12.000 I knew this lady.

00:38:13.000 She's a sweetheart.

00:38:14.000 I still know her.

00:38:14.000 And she's a kundalini teacher.

00:38:16.000 Is she blazing hot?

00:38:18.000 Because a lot of kundalini teachers are.

00:38:19.000 She was at one point in time.

00:38:20.000 I mean, she's still attractive, but she's an older woman now. 1.00

00:38:23.000 But she was beautiful when she was young.

00:38:25.000 She's beautiful now.

00:38:26.000 I love her.

00:38:27.000 She's a good person.

00:38:28.000 But my point is, I don't want to disparage her in any way.

00:38:30.000 She's so woo-woo. 0.99

00:38:32.000 She's so woo-woo, it's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:38:34.000 You can't talk to her about anything. 0.99

00:38:35.000 You go onto her property, if you go to where her house is, she makes you stand in a certain place and say your blessings and ask for the earth and the woods to embrace you.

00:38:49.000 She's not bullshitting, man.

00:38:51.000 She really means that.

00:38:52.000 And she will tell you that kundalini yoga and this practice of yoga has changed her being, changed who she is as an individual. 1.00

00:39:02.000 Now, I'd say, oh, she's some woo-woo crazy bitch. 1.00

00:39:05.000 With all due respect. 1.00

00:39:06.000 With love. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Crazy bitch. 1.00

00:39:07.000 I call myself a crazy bitch. 1.00

00:39:09.000 But then my friend Denny got into it. 1.00

00:39:11.000 Denny Propokos?

00:39:12.000 And Denny, you know Denny.

00:39:14.000 Denny, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, black belt, world champion as a brown belt, no Gi Jiu Jitsu. 0.99

00:39:18.000 I mean, he's a bad motherfucker and a very good friend. 0.99

00:39:21.000 And he's not a bullshit artist at anything. 1.00

00:39:23.000 And he started getting deep into Kundalini. 0.99

00:39:26.000 And he started doing it every day, and he said, dude, I'm tripping balls.

00:39:28.000 He goes, I'm telling you, when I'm in full Kundalini mode, because Danny's super disciplined, and the type of discipline that you need to be a high-level competitive Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt is the same kind of discipline that if applied to yoga, you know, like a constant attention and focus on achieving these states.

00:39:47.000 I now believe... 0.94

00:39:49.000 All the stuff that I used to think was horseshit. 0.93

00:39:51.000 I mean, it's really kind of egotistical that I thought... 0.93

00:39:54.000 I just thought there was too much...

00:39:55.000 There's so much shenanigans going on.

00:39:57.000 I mean, for whatever reason, I would hear people talk about these yoga states where they would achieve full-on DMT realm states.

00:40:05.000 And I'd be like, sure you did.

00:40:07.000 You know?

00:40:07.000 I just didn't believe them.

00:40:09.000 I thought they were like...

00:40:10.000 You know how people who eat vegan food always tell you it tastes amazing?

00:40:14.000 They're always, it's like, eh, it's never like, it's kind of cardboardy.

00:40:17.000 That chicken with the apostrophe on it tastes just like chicken?

00:40:20.000 But you know what I'm saying?

00:40:21.000 It's like they're overly enthusiastic to the point where their opinion or their taste is not, you don't consider it without reservation.

00:40:30.000 But Denny, I consider him without reservation.

00:40:31.000 I know him so well.

00:40:32.000 So he tells me he's hitting these states.

00:40:34.000 I was like, whoa.

00:40:36.000 Yeah, I mean, the kundalini yoga is... 0.99

00:40:38.000 I think, well, first of all, the problem that a lot of people have is they stack extra shit on top of the good stuff. 0.99

00:40:44.000 That's just complete nonsense, right? 0.99

00:40:46.000 And that makes you want to discard the whole thing.

00:40:48.000 Like, some of this woman's other practices were probably the majority of why you went, man, everything you're doing is whack, because I know some of this is whack, and I think that's an issue to make. 0.97

00:40:57.000 But the actual kundalini yoga, I had a podcast with a former Navy SEAL, this guy Michael Vega, And he was on 11 different pharmaceuticals and that's another big problem with the military is they really over prescribe psychological meds for these people and interactions can be a problem. 0.98

00:41:14.000 But he was on 11, couldn't sleep, full PTSD, totally fucked up.

00:41:18.000 And then his process was exactly the same. 0.94

00:41:20.000 He stopped taking the meds and started doing Kundalini Yoga, which he stumbled upon.

00:41:25.000 And he's actually out here.

00:41:26.000 And that was the key for him to reverse his PTSD. And this is an old Navy SEAL, like a real deal combat vet, you know, in the shit kind of guy. 0.99

00:41:36.000 And that's the method that worked. 0.99

00:41:38.000 You know, it kind of makes sense if you think about it, because that applies to almost everything else.

00:41:43.000 There's someone out there that does it so well that if you experience them doing it you go, oh Now I get it.

00:41:49.000 You know what I mean? 0.57

00:41:50.000 Like we've all seen that like I've never taken any music lessons at all but I have friends that play guitar and I had a friend that would play classical guitar and He'd do flamencos and shit, and he would grow his fingernails long and shit, like the whole deal.

00:42:05.000 He had to put nail polish over him, and he was my friend from the time we were like 15. And he would go crazy with this fucking guitar. 0.99

00:42:15.000 You could see his fingers move, and he'd play this crazy flamenco music, and you would realize that it's possible. 1.00

00:42:21.000 But until I saw him do it, like with my fucking fat, stupid fingers, and like, I don't... 1.00

00:42:28.000 I mean, I guess you could get there, but I've never seen anybody get there. 1.00

00:42:31.000 You know what I mean?

00:42:32.000 You've got to see it.

00:42:33.000 And it's the same with martial arts.

00:42:35.000 I remember being a kid, watching black belts for the first time, watching people throw kicks, and watching people like this guy specifically, this guy John Lee.

00:42:45.000 I remember watching him hit the bag.

00:42:46.000 And now knowing that that was possible, where that was in my mind, what he was doing, the amount of power that he had, the speed that he had, and The execution, the perfect technique, didn't exist in my head.

00:42:57.000 There was no model for it.

00:42:59.000 So to watch someone do it in the flesh was all of a sudden, it was like, whoa, this is a real thing.

00:43:05.000 You could achieve that level.

00:43:05.000 This is possible.

00:43:07.000 Whereas, you take the average person and tell them to go kick something, it's going to look ridiculous.

00:43:12.000 But this guy had it all polished down to this tornado move. 0.59

00:43:17.000 Wham!

00:43:18.000 Wham!

00:43:18.000 And he just had the motions down.

00:43:21.000 And it was fascinating to watch.

00:43:23.000 And so because of that, I aspire to achieve a similar level of proficiency that this guy had.

00:43:29.000 That was my goal.

00:43:30.000 To get as good as John Lee.

00:43:32.000 And so, when you look at Kundalini Yoga, it's gotta be the same thing.

00:43:36.000 It's gotta be.

00:43:37.000 With every discipline, you get better at it.

00:43:39.000 Every time I do yoga, I get a little bit better at it.

00:43:41.000 Every time I hit poses, I get a little better.

00:43:43.000 I can go into them deeper.

00:43:45.000 My body is more comfortable there.

00:43:48.000 I set into it better.

00:43:50.000 My balance is better.

00:43:51.000 And you gotta think that, I'm not doing it that often. 0.99

00:43:53.000 You gotta think these motherfuckers that are doing it every day. 1.00

00:43:55.000 They're getting into these crazy places. 1.00

00:43:57.000 And I'm not doing Kundalini yoga.

00:43:59.000 I'm doing just stretching and all that kind of...

00:44:01.000 I don't know what you would even call it, what the discipline is.

00:44:04.000 But the Kundalini is specifically designed, according to Denny...

00:44:08.000 To try to stimulate these psychedelic states.

00:44:11.000 Yeah, and what they're using is breath, and you know, you can get that in a variety of different ways.

00:44:16.000 And the other thing that I've done is called holotropic breathing, which is pretty much like kundalini yoga without the yoga aspect.

00:44:22.000 And kundalini yoga has very little to do with stretching.

00:44:24.000 It's mostly getting in postures and breathing really, you know, deep breaths frequently and kind of drawing, visualizing, it's a visualization, visualizing drawing energy up.

00:44:35.000 From your kundalini center, which is the base of your body, and then doing these breath works.

00:44:39.000 And I've felt what can happen when you're in these, you know, hyper-oxygenated states.

00:44:44.000 And it's really, really powerful.

00:44:46.000 I haven't done the kundalini yoga in like a proper session.

00:44:48.000 I've just done it a little bit where you kind of bounce up and down and you're breathing and getting these things.

00:44:53.000 But it's accessing that same mechanism, which is basically flooding your body with oxygen and creating these seemingly psychedelic states.

00:45:01.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 Yeah, seemingly.

00:45:02.000 I mean, they are psychedelic.

00:45:04.000 I mean, I would like to see some studies done on what's going on when you're doing that holotropic breathing. 0.92

00:45:08.000 Like, if you hit, like, a peak, if they could put those EFMG or whatever the fuck it is. 0.92

00:45:13.000 Yeah, for sure, EKG. What is it? 0.96

00:45:15.000 Functional.

00:45:15.000 FMRI. FMRI. If they could put that on you.

00:45:17.000 All the various ways they have of monitoring what the fuck's going on in your dome. 0.92

00:45:21.000 If they could do that while you were in that, like, if you got to that psychedelic state and you told them, I was there, I was there, and like, okay, let's look at the chart and see. 0.94

00:45:30.000 Yeah.

00:45:30.000 I mean, they'd probably see it in a lot of things.

00:45:32.000 They'd see it in blood flow.

00:45:34.000 They'd see it in brainwave activity.

00:45:35.000 They'd see it in a variety of things.

00:45:37.000 I want to know what happens when you're killing on stage.

00:45:41.000 I want to know what that is.

00:45:43.000 I bet it's in that 10 Hertz alpha frequency.

00:45:45.000 That would be probably exactly where you want to be for that.

00:45:49.000 Creative, everything's easy, it's smooth, you lose track of time.

00:45:53.000 I mean, that's the characteristic of that 10 Hertz kind of window, that sweet spot, that flow state.

00:45:59.000 There's a weird state you hit.

00:46:01.000 It's a weird state you hit when everything's cracking.

00:46:03.000 I love watching other people kill, too, because I could kind of see them in that state.

00:46:07.000 I'm like, oh, he's in there! 0.98

00:46:09.000 Joey Diaz is one of the best examples, because Joey will reach these states, and he'll say things off the top of his fucking head that you would swear somebody would labor for years to try to come up with a line as beautiful and poetic. 0.82

00:46:26.000 And he'll say it, and then after it comes out of his mouth, he starts laughing, because he's laughing at it, because he didn't even know he was going to say it. 0.78

00:46:33.000 And he's like...

00:46:36.000 And you realize, like, that guy's gone.

00:46:38.000 He's gone.

00:46:39.000 And he's addicted to it.

00:46:41.000 It's totally addicted to killing.

00:46:43.000 That's funny you say that, because I talked with Stephen Kotler, who wrote this book, The Rise of Superman, and they've done a lot of studies on these flow states.

00:46:50.000 And when you're in this flow state, you're releasing a concoction of five different endogenous drugs.

00:46:55.000 And I can't name them off the top of my head, but he makes the argument that flow state is by far the most addictive substance in the world.

00:47:02.000 Because you're getting dopamine, you know, norepinephrine, all of these different endogenous drugs basically get flooded through your body and nothing feels better.

00:47:11.000 I mean, you can chase a high every other which way, but once you've felt that, you're going to want to get back to that more and more.

00:47:17.000 I mean, it's incredibly addictive, incredibly productive, but also addictive.

00:47:21.000 Yeah, any guy that's ever done anything dangerous, we've talked to BMX folks or Skateboarders or any of those extreme sports maniacs, those guys for sure are addicted to that experience.

00:47:34.000 The rush of danger and pulling it off. 1.00

00:47:37.000 Fuck yeah! 1.00

00:47:39.000 You know, you see those guys when they do a flip and then they land and they're like, fuck yeah! 1.00

00:47:43.000 It's like the universe is charging them like Highlander and shit like a lightning bolts going through him if you watch Chuck Liddell when Chuck Liddell would win He's the best example of that state because he would win and he would throw his arms back and roar and Yell with his chest poked out pull up pull up a video of Chuck Liddell Celebrating there's like a there's compilations of him celebrating yeah, 0.93

00:48:08.000 and When he was in his prime, dude, you want to talk about, like, if you wanted the guy to recruit new fans, if you said, man, what is this MMA thing? 0.99

00:48:18.000 Watch this motherfucker. 1.00

00:48:20.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:48:21.000 What is this?

00:48:22.000 The most badass celebration?

00:48:24.000 It's like an edited version?

00:48:24.000 What is this?

00:48:26.000 Yeah, find one where they don't do their own dance mix to it.

00:48:30.000 Just show it, man.

00:48:32.000 Just show it.

00:48:33.000 And hardly anybody are ever going to feel that, that same thing.

00:48:37.000 But we can all taste it in our own certain little ways.

00:48:40.000 But if you could bottle that feeling...

00:48:42.000 Forget about it.

00:48:43.000 Everybody would just hit that button as many times as possible.

00:48:46.000 You can't.

00:48:47.000 You can't.

00:48:48.000 And you don't deserve it.

00:48:49.000 No.

00:48:50.000 You don't deserve it.

00:48:50.000 You have to do what he did to get there.

00:48:53.000 You have to fight Babalusa Brawl, Tito Ortiz.

00:48:56.000 You've got to fight Kevin Randleman. 0.99

00:48:58.000 You've got to fight all those fucking guys. 0.99

00:48:59.000 You've got to fight Rampage Jackson. 1.00

00:49:01.000 You've got to fight Aleister over him.

00:49:03.000 You've got to fight those guys.

00:49:04.000 If you don't fight those guys, you don't deserve that feeling.

00:49:07.000 Like, he's in there with murderers, and he's throwing haymakers.

00:49:11.000 Ah! 1.00

00:49:12.000 And when he was at his best, dude, god damn, he was a ferocious motherfucker. 1.00

00:49:16.000 You know, his style almost like, it kind of did him in. 0.99

00:49:19.000 Because he was so aggressive and he was so willing to take one to give one.

00:49:23.000 He wanted to get you into a war of wills.

00:49:26.000 He was like, dude, there's no way.

00:49:28.000 There's no, you just, you don't understand, there's no way. 1.00

00:49:30.000 You're gonna hit me and it's not gonna hurt and I'm gonna fucking kill you. 1.00

00:49:33.000 If you stand in front of me, I'm gonna smash your face in. 1.00

00:49:35.000 And that was like his style. 0.99

00:49:36.000 Skillful, of course.

00:49:37.000 I mean, he did have good defensive skills, but he would oftentimes abandon them just with rage and just go after opponents.

00:49:45.000 So if you wanted the perfect guy, if you wanted to show somebody, I want you to watch MMA. Watch a Chuck Liddell fight in his prime.

00:49:51.000 You'd be like, fucking Christ, man. 0.99

00:49:54.000 When he beats up Tito Ortiz and he has him up against the cage, he's just... 0.99

00:49:58.000 Just fucking unloading these combinations, and Tito starts to slump down. 0.99

00:50:03.000 Fucking Christ, man. 1.00

00:50:05.000 I mean, Jesus Christ. 1.00

00:50:06.000 That guy was a fucking warrior in there. 1.00

00:50:10.000 And raw. 0.99

00:50:11.000 Raw had all of those feelings.

00:50:13.000 That's why when he throws his arms back, you appreciate it.

00:50:15.000 It's not like a guy who just decisioned a guy to death.

00:50:18.000 He blanketed him, got on top of him, threw little baby punches.

00:50:22.000 No, this is a guy who just threw his soul at a guy.

00:50:25.000 Came out triumphant.

00:50:26.000 He's like, rawr!

00:50:27.000 You don't get that roar if you barely win by a split decision in a fight where you didn't take any chances, where you, you know, you did the right thing, but you stifled them up against the cage and put them to the ground and got on top of them and didn't really make any risks.

00:50:40.000 No, you only get that when you go balls-out barbarian style.

00:50:44.000 Like, look at that picture.

00:50:47.000 That's awesome.

00:50:48.000 There's no video?

00:50:49.000 It seems like contact...

00:50:50.000 How is there no video of this?

00:50:51.000 Zufa.

00:50:52.000 How dare you, Zufa, my employers? 0.99

00:50:54.000 My last employers.

00:50:56.000 It seems like contact sports are some of the best ways to get that.

00:50:58.000 I mean, you'll see that also when, like, a running back runs over three different giant men who've been training their whole life to bring them down.

00:51:05.000 They get in there, and you'll get a tight taste of that.

00:51:08.000 Probably none quite the same as Chuck Liddell, but something about these contact sports where you're actually just...

00:51:14.000 In it and just getting pounded by different other, you know, individuals and then triumphing releases that massive feeling.

00:51:22.000 Yeah, you know, I never experienced that.

00:51:24.000 I never, like, any tournament that I won or anything like that, I always felt weird after it was over.

00:51:29.000 I never felt, I felt relief because it was over and now I can relax. 0.66

00:51:34.000 I did feel good about it later when I thought about, like, yeah, I fucking won. 0.90

00:51:38.000 Wow, I have a trophy. 0.97

00:51:40.000 I could look at it.

00:51:41.000 Like, this is mine.

00:51:42.000 I won this. 0.99

00:51:43.000 But when it was over, like, the state of mind, even if I won by knockout, especially even if I won by knockout, because then I was always like, fuck, that could have been me. 0.96

00:51:51.000 Like, I'm not even making any money doing this. 0.99

00:51:53.000 I'm out here throwing kicks at people, and they're kicking me, and I'm kicking them, and look what happened to this fucking kid. 0.99

00:51:58.000 I don't even know this kid. 0.99

00:52:00.000 I don't even know this kid, and I just put him in the hospital. 0.95

00:52:02.000 Like, this is ridiculous. 0.85

00:52:04.000 That's what I would think. 0.99

00:52:05.000 I would never be like, rawr! 1.00

00:52:07.000 That's why I had to quit. 1.00

00:52:08.000 Not designed for this shit. 0.99

00:52:10.000 Not getting enough juice. 1.00

00:52:11.000 Yeah, there's something missing.

00:52:13.000 I was also too aware of the potential downsides.

00:52:19.000 I was an early-on adapter of head trauma paranoia.

00:52:24.000 Because I'm pretty honest about... 0.92

00:52:26.000 I think one of the things about being a martial artist, at least for me, the way I got better at it quicker, is that I was super honest about all the shit that I did wrong.

00:52:36.000 I never tried to pretend anything was better than what it was.

00:52:40.000 I would look at everything and I'd never be satisfied.

00:52:42.000 All the techniques, I'd be like, that's not crisp enough.

00:52:45.000 The weight transfer is not hard enough.

00:52:47.000 Whatever it was, I'd be like, I've got to just keep drilling this over and over and over again.

00:52:50.000 And because of that, I was acutely aware of my performance levels, which is why when I started getting hit in the head a lot, I started looking at the performance of my thinking and I was like something's off.

00:53:03.000 There's something going on here.

00:53:05.000 Like I'm feeling a very small and I'm trying to attribute it to fatigue.

00:53:10.000 Like maybe it's because of fatigue.

00:53:11.000 Maybe it's because I'm tired because I've been training a lot because I'm fighting.

00:53:15.000 And then I was like, maybe I'm getting hit in the head too much. 1.00

00:53:17.000 And I was like, whoa, fuck, man. 1.00

00:53:20.000 And then I started thinking about these people that you see in life. 1.00

00:53:23.000 Like you run into some old dude and he's hunched over and he's got a cane.

00:53:27.000 You don't think of that guy as being a three-year-old running in his dad's backyard laughing and giggling and impervious to injury and flopping down on his butt and just getting right back up because he's only three inches off the ground.

00:53:38.000 No, you look at a decaying creature.

00:53:40.000 Who's reached the final slide of his existence in this dimension.

00:53:46.000 He's on the way out.

00:53:48.000 You don't see the full journey.

00:53:50.000 And I think we think of these guys that you run into in the gym that are punchy. 1.00

00:53:54.000 And you think of them and you go, oh, that fucking guy, man. 1.00

00:53:57.000 Yeah, he's punch drunk. 1.00

00:53:58.000 That guy didn't used to be punch drunk, though.

00:54:00.000 He used to be a regular guy.

00:54:02.000 He used to be a regular guy that you could talk to.

00:54:04.000 And now he's in this weird place.

00:54:07.000 And I didn't compete that long, especially with a lot of head blows.

00:54:13.000 Way more head blows in boxing and kickboxing, which all happened in the last two or three years that I was doing martial arts, like really intensely in competing.

00:54:23.000 So, I don't think I took too much. 0.97

00:54:25.000 But when I think about people that I know, that I know are fucked up now, that bothers me, man. 0.95

00:54:31.000 It's one of the main things that bothers me about the sport. 0.98

00:54:33.000 No doubt.

00:54:34.000 And it's, you know, it's interesting.

00:54:36.000 It's like choosing this lifestyle that you know can give you access to these feelings, like maybe Chuck Liddell felt, that.0000001% of the whole world will ever feel.

00:54:45.000 You get access to a little piece of that, but it comes at a terrible price, you know, if you stick with it too long.

00:54:51.000 If you stick with it too long, and that's the problem, is what we were talking about earlier, is the addiction. 0.94

00:54:55.000 The addiction to that fucking rush, that rush, that wild feeling. 0.98

00:55:01.000 Like I said, I never felt it like that. 0.97

00:55:03.000 Well, you look at some of the people who are really intriguing me right now, and they have a different kind of attitude when they're in there.

00:55:10.000 Sometimes they can feel it.

00:55:11.000 Someone like Jon Jones, for example, is a good example of that, where it's just so...

00:55:17.000 Calculated, calm, and flow.

00:55:19.000 You know, everything looks like it's...

00:55:20.000 You know, you don't see that rage come out of him in the cage anymore. 0.85

00:55:24.000 And so he's so efficient at making great guys look silly.

00:55:28.000 And even Connor, even though he's just starting out and he's got a lot of tougher guys to fight, he has a little bit of that element, too, where everything just looks easy for him.

00:55:37.000 And I think that's the next wave because and they're gonna they're gonna deny themselves maybe some of the pleasure on the other side But their performance in that level in that mode is gonna be pretty fucking tough to beat Yeah, this it's very interesting seeing these various styles that are emerging You know one of the things that I really love about the UFC I and this is as a person who's seen it From the really early days,

00:56:05.000 you know, I started watching UFC 2 and being able to call more than a thousand fights live from just a few feet away.

00:56:12.000 You're seeing, it's like a mathematical equation.

00:56:16.000 You're seeing, like, what are the benefits of being 265 pounds built like Brock Lesnar versus what are the benefits of a superior gas tank like Cain Velasquez and really good wrestling skills.

00:56:26.000 What are the benefits of crisp technique over what are the benefits of rage and aggression and muscle?

00:56:30.000 What are the benefits of a pace that no one can keep up with versus a guy who throws knockout blows but gets tired after the second round?

00:56:40.000 Like, where's the numbers?

00:56:41.000 So now I'm looking at it.

00:56:43.000 Not just as individuals with unique personalities, unique physical skills.

00:56:47.000 We all know guys like Hector Lombard.

00:56:49.000 Look at him.

00:56:50.000 That's a unique physical specimen.

00:56:52.000 Period.

00:56:53.000 There's no denying that.

00:56:54.000 You just can't deny it.

00:56:56.000 That's not a regular dude.

00:56:57.000 He doesn't move like a regular dude.

00:56:59.000 He's not going to hit you like a regular dude.

00:57:00.000 So there's a massive benefit in that.

00:57:02.000 His skull somehow has muscles that attach to his traps.

00:57:06.000 I don't even know how that's possible. 1.00

00:57:08.000 He's so stupid strong, too, dude. 1.00

00:57:10.000 You watch him, like, fight Tim Bosch. 1.00

00:57:12.000 Tim Bosch is, like, a really big 185. And Tim Bosch is strong as fuck, dude. 0.99

00:57:17.000 And Tim Bosch would go to takedown, and Hector snapped him down and sprawled like I have never seen a 5'8 man do to a big... 0.99

00:57:28.000 Fucking Viking looking dude like Tim Bosh. 0.99

00:57:31.000 He just grabs him and snaps him down like fucking Christ. 1.00

00:57:34.000 How strong is that dude? 1.00

00:57:35.000 Like he's like way through Jake Shields around who the fuck has ever done that before? 0.98

00:57:39.000 Who's ever done that before? 0.98

00:57:40.000 He flipped Jake Shields through the air and hip-tossed him. 0.97

00:57:45.000 Jake Shields is a world-class Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt.

00:57:48.000 He competed against Marcelo Garcia, Cameron Earl.

00:57:52.000 I mean, he was in the mix against John Fitch.

00:57:54.000 He grappled against some really top-level competition and performed very well in straight jiu-jitsu. 0.98

00:58:00.000 So to watch him just get fucking thrown through the air with the greatest of ease, you're like, what kind of a freak is that? 0.98

00:58:08.000 But is that the way to go? 0.99

00:58:10.000 Or is the way to go to be that guy and also pretend you're not?

00:58:15.000 To fight like you're a regular dude.

00:58:17.000 To fight like you're a guy who doesn't have ridiculous explosive power, but always have that on tap and know when to release a little bit out of it and then pull it back.

00:58:24.000 A little bit out of it.

00:58:25.000 That way you can get that Frankie Edgar pace. 0.89

00:58:27.000 Well, it's not only a proven grounds for strategy, like you're talking, which is amazing, but it's also a proven ground for mental conditioning.

00:58:34.000 I mean, this is the place where there's absolutely zero room to be at less than your potential.

00:58:38.000 And you see that all the time.

00:58:40.000 You see fighters come out, and for whatever reason, you know that a different operating system in that body would be fighting that night.

00:58:47.000 So for whatever reason, they weren't reaching it.

00:58:49.000 And then you see the converse side, like TJ Dillashaw versus Burrell, when he came out, where you know he's on that bleeding edge of 99.99 of his potential of what he can do at that given point.

00:59:01.000 And the states that they get in to get themselves that way, the practices.

00:59:05.000 You know, John Jones, when we actually ran into him before his last fight at dinner, and he was talking about a really interesting practice that he was doing, in which he was going through all of the worst case scenarios that can happen against Daniel Corme.

00:59:18.000 Daniel Corme taking him down.

00:59:20.000 All of the worst case, and he said, and I've accepted those and I'm fine with them.

00:59:24.000 And for him, that was releasing any fear that he had of what might happen in the ring.

00:59:29.000 And that's what, and Daniele Bellelli pointed this out, that's also what the samurai would do before battle, and this is described vividly in the Hagakure, the Book of the Samurai.

00:59:37.000 They would vividly imagine in their mind all of the different ways they could die.

00:59:42.000 Gutted and eviscerated, their guts spilling out in their hands, an arrow piercing their neck.

00:59:46.000 They would go through all of these different scenarios in their head, be at peace with them, understanding that death was coming to them all anyways.

00:59:54.000 Then that way they wouldn't fear these scenarios, so they were fiercer in battle.

00:59:57.000 So these techniques that are getting re-innovated by people like Jon Jones are really, you know, amazing to see because a lot of times innovation comes out of necessity, and there's no greater necessity than another killer trying to pummel you in front of millions of people.

01:00:12.000 Yeah, the people want to say that it's 99% mental or 90% mental. 1.00

01:00:16.000 That's not really true because no matter how strong your brain is, Jon Jones is going to kick your fucking ass, okay? 1.00

01:00:21.000 John can be drunk on coke. 1.00

01:00:23.000 He's gonna bitch slap you. 1.00

01:00:24.000 He's a better athlete. 1.00

01:00:26.000 He's just better fighter, period.

01:00:27.000 But if John Jones's mind is totally on point, if he's in that samurai zone, that is an unbelievably deadly combination.

01:00:37.000 When you have the superior athlete, With the superior mental toughness like a guy who goes through a really strong amateur wrestling background has like all those guys have Some savage mental toughness and you add that to like some sort of Meditation practice or some sort of a lot of them are using hypnosis now,

01:00:55.000 which is really interesting.

01:00:57.000 There's a guy Who Joe Schilling was talking about I'll say his name because it's on my it's on my Twitter thing and He just did Ian McCall as well. 0.99

01:01:08.000 He's hypnotizing motherfuckers. 0.99

01:01:10.000 And he's doing it through FaceTime. 1.00

01:01:12.000 He's hypnotizing them.

01:01:14.000 Vinny... 0.97

01:01:15.000 Goddammit, why can't I remember his last name? 0.95

01:01:17.000 Shorman, I believe it is?

01:01:19.000 Yes, Vinny Shorman.

01:01:20.000 That's it.

01:01:21.000 And Vinny Shorman is also an excellent striking commentator.

01:01:24.000 He does a lot of kickboxing events and Muay Thai events.

01:01:29.000 And he works with some of these fighters and hypnotizes them.

01:01:33.000 And puts them in these states of mind.

01:01:36.000 Essentially, I want to talk to him about doing it for stand-up comedy.

01:01:39.000 Because I don't think anybody's ever done it.

01:01:41.000 I don't think anybody's ever got hypnotized.

01:01:43.000 Especially when everything's going well.

01:01:45.000 Let's see what happens. 1.00

01:01:47.000 Let's see what happens if I get this guy to read my fucking brain. 0.99

01:01:50.000 Well, all of these things, and we've talked about it a bit on this podcast already, they're manipulating the belief system. 0.99

01:01:55.000 And I've talked about knee surgery, placebos, this placebo, this nocebo effect, the power that the brain has to be able to affect conditions within the human body.

01:02:05.000 And then so manipulating that to your benefit, I think, is a huge part.

01:02:09.000 Of, you know, the next frontier.

01:02:11.000 And I also think, especially when there's two people involved, if we understand that the belief system has a lot to do with potential outcomes, both for health and a variety of things, that's all been proven.

01:02:21.000 You know, belief has huge, you know, a huge amount of leverage on what you're capable of doing physically.

01:02:27.000 So understanding that, then it would make sense that evolutionarily speaking, humans would be good belief detectors of each other, right?

01:02:34.000 Because that would allow you to assess whether your opponent at a certain point or someone you were going to fight might be able to beat you, or a mate that you were going to be with was going to be good, or someone was going to be able to provide, or your friend was going to be, you know, worthwhile.

01:02:47.000 So detecting belief had to be a skill that we've developed.

01:02:51.000 And I think we're very good at that.

01:02:52.000 We know when someone inherently...

01:02:54.000 Mm-hmm.

01:02:58.000 Mm-hmm. 1.00

01:03:15.000 McGregor believes he's going to kick my ass. 1.00

01:03:17.000 Is my belief enough to believe that that's not going to happen? 0.99

01:03:20.000 So it's this kind of contest, of course both physically, but I think people are kind of measuring each other.

01:03:26.000 And I think that's an advantage that, like again, Conor McGregor has. 0.99

01:03:29.000 I really believe that he believes that he is going to kick that other person's ass. 1.00

01:03:34.000 So the other person, when they're dealing with him, they're like, man, this motherfucker really believes this. 1.00

01:03:38.000 Am I sure? 0.99

01:03:40.000 Am I sure that I'm going to win?

01:03:41.000 And then that starts to cause doubt, and that doubt creates this negative cascade.

01:03:45.000 Yeah, isn't it fascinating how that works, that the other person can kind of somehow or another sense your true state?

01:03:54.000 Yeah.

01:03:55.000 Somehow or another. 1.00

01:03:55.000 You can put on the face of the confident person, but they can go, this motherfucker's bluffing. 1.00

01:04:00.000 Right. 1.00

01:04:00.000 I smell bluffing. 1.00

01:04:02.000 He's shaky.

01:04:03.000 There's something going on.

01:04:04.000 Yeah.

01:04:05.000 You know, I feel that with audiences.

01:04:07.000 Audiences know when your head's not there or when you're not right.

01:04:11.000 You can say the exact right words in the exact right order or the exact right amount of pauses, but if your intent isn't there, if your mind isn't there...

01:04:19.000 It's like they don't connect with it.

01:04:22.000 It's a form of hypnosis.

01:04:23.000 I really think that stand-up is some form of hypnosis.

01:04:27.000 Yeah, so their belief detectors are active.

01:04:29.000 If you don't really believe that you're in the pocket and you're delivering it the right way, they'll kind of sense that.

01:04:36.000 And that's what I'm kind of trying it to.

01:04:38.000 And then the opposite of that is fear. 0.99

01:04:41.000 Because fear is a belief of some probability that some bad shit is going to happen. 0.96

01:04:46.000 So it's almost like a negative belief mechanism. 0.98

01:04:49.000 Of course there's danger, and having danger is real, but the fear that's on top of that danger, that is somewhat of a belief that some other bad shit is going to happen, and that's why it manifests.

01:05:00.000 It's because it is a belief. 0.93

01:05:01.000 It is a belief that something's going to happen.

01:05:03.000 If you're afraid on stage that you're going to bomb, that fear will start to wend its way into yourself, and you'll create that, because some part of you believes that's what's going to happen.

01:05:14.000 So it's almost like Fear is the nocebo of regular everyday living, whereas belief is the placebo of everyday living.

01:05:21.000 That's why it's so devastating when you think about people that talk about being bullied, like some kids have gone through really horrific bullying episodes as children.

01:05:33.000 When you think about what's happening when you're getting bullied, or you're scared of someone in your neighborhood, or there's someone who's harassing you or stalking you, They become, it's almost like they become a virus in your mind. 0.94

01:05:48.000 Where someone, like, if you're in school and you have to get on that fucking bus and go, and this big fucker is gonna smack you in the head every day, and you're gonna be living in fear of this guy, trying to figure out where he is, that guy becomes like a virus in your head. 0.58

01:06:01.000 And when you think of how meditation works, how meditation is sort of resetting you and clearing all of the programs that are in there, clearing all the things that seem to be externally dictating behavior. 0.99

01:06:21.000 When You're when you're when you're fighting especially when you're competing and someone's beating you at something especially if they're talking shit They're kind of hypnotizing you totally because they're they're Planting their mind or their personality as a virus in your head and then also you are dealing with them like they're physically coming into your head and And fucking with your head. 0.97

01:06:43.000 Well, you're not physically getting in their head at all. 0.98

01:06:45.000 They just scored on you. 1.00

01:06:47.000 You know, they're kicking your ass. 1.00

01:06:48.000 They just leg kicked you. 1.00

01:06:49.000 And they're like, what, bitch? 1.00

01:06:50.000 And they pop you with a jab. 1.00

01:06:51.000 You're like, fuck! 1.00

01:06:52.000 Like, you're not, you know, you're not in his head at all. 1.00

01:06:55.000 No. 0.99

01:06:56.000 He's fucking you up. 1.00

01:06:57.000 Their belief is getting stronger while yours is getting weaker. 1.00

01:06:59.000 Yes, like, you are getting hypnotized as you're getting fucked up. 0.99

01:07:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:07:04.000 That's fascinating when you think about that.

01:07:06.000 And it happens not only in the cage, but beforehand.

01:07:09.000 You know, you see those people who've gotten in someone else's head way early.

01:07:14.000 I wonder if this can be compared in some ways to the sense of loss we feel after relationships.

01:07:19.000 Because with some people, there's a deep anger after relationships end.

01:07:24.000 People break up.

01:07:25.000 Because not only do they feel this sense of loss, but they feel like you took something from them.

01:07:31.000 Like you took like a happiness.

01:07:33.000 You took something you took because they kind of become a part of you.

01:07:38.000 You kind of link up with each other in some sort of weird way.

01:07:41.000 That's got to be similar to hypnosis in a way too in that what's going on with all these things is the mind is far more malleable than we ever give it credit for being.

01:07:51.000 The personality is far more dependent upon whim and circumstance and influence than we ever really want it to be.

01:07:58.000 All these things are kind of playing out at the same time.

01:08:02.000 It's not any one thing.

01:08:04.000 Like, so, these rigid structures that we think of as this is, well, his personality is like this.

01:08:09.000 Well, he was totally different once he hooked up with her.

01:08:11.000 Of course! 1.00

01:08:12.000 That bitch bewitched him! 1.00

01:08:13.000 She hypnotized him! 1.00

01:08:14.000 But she did! 0.87

01:08:16.000 Some women can do that to men and some men can do that to women. 1.00

01:08:20.000 They fucking turn them into a different person. 1.00

01:08:22.000 They bewitch you with their personality. 1.00

01:08:24.000 You're getting sleepy, sleepy. 1.00

01:08:28.000 This dick is only for me. 1.00

01:08:30.000 People do shit like that to each other. 1.00

01:08:33.000 And I think these connections of the mind are these poorly understood Interfaces that we have with each other these poorly understood connections And that we want to we want to just like sometimes we can't handle it when you get distance from all being one Just give me get some distance. 0.99

01:08:50.000 I have to take time off man.

01:08:52.000 I'm gonna go on a vacation Other people aren't influencing your sphere Yeah.

01:08:57.000 With relationships, I think it has a lot to do with attachment and identity.

01:09:00.000 You know, you get with someone and that becomes part of your identity.

01:09:03.000 I'm so-and-so's husband.

01:09:05.000 I'm so-and-so's boyfriend.

01:09:06.000 She's my girlfriend.

01:09:07.000 My girlfriend.

01:09:08.000 You know, it becomes this part of you, your ego, your sense of identity, and you get attached to that because it's feeding you with something that you think you need, some validation.

01:09:18.000 Maybe she's super hot, and that helps you feel it's like a tricky little trap that helps you feel like, man, I'm the man.

01:09:23.000 My girl is super hot. 1.00

01:09:25.000 You know, so that part's inside you. 1.00

01:09:26.000 And then she leaves, and you're like, shit, maybe I'm not the man, because that's what was feeding you. 0.98

01:09:31.000 But the key to that is you've got to get to a state of almost invincibility yourself, where you don't need anything from anybody or anything. 0.99

01:09:40.000 You're just free to enjoy it.

01:09:41.000 That's just extra on top of it, you know?

01:09:44.000 You're not borrowing anything from them to make up your identity. 0.98

01:09:48.000 You're just enjoying the shit out of them and adding more, piling it on top. 0.92

01:09:52.000 So when they leave, You're not really at a loss of anything. 0.98

01:09:55.000 It's just, alright, I don't get to experience that extra good thing anymore. 0.98

01:09:59.000 Yeah, most people don't see it that way because they watch John Cusack movies and they want to stand outside a chick's fucking house with a boombox playing some song they used to listen to before you banged. 0.98

01:10:09.000 Have you heard that country song? 0.99

01:10:11.000 It's called Redneck Crazy. 0.62

01:10:13.000 No. 0.56

01:10:14.000 It's like the most absurd song ever.

01:10:16.000 It's like, I'm going to park outside of your window and shine my lights through your...

01:10:20.000 Park outside of your house, shine my lights through your window, throw beer cans at your shadow.

01:10:24.000 You broke the wrong heart, baby. 0.99

01:10:26.000 You made me redneck crazy. 1.00

01:10:27.000 Oh, God.

01:10:28.000 And it's like playing on it, and you'll just hear people humming along and singing it.

01:10:32.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:10:32.000 I mean, it's amazing.

01:10:33.000 Jamie, do you want to...

01:10:34.000 Don't even.

01:10:35.000 Please don't.

01:10:36.000 Let's pretend we didn't bring it up.

01:10:38.000 It's unbelievable to hear because it's just patterning this crazy behavior that people have of this possession.

01:10:44.000 That's my girl.

01:10:45.000 And the fact that she's enjoying her life with someone else.

01:10:47.000 I think the song even says, did you think I was going to wish you well?

01:10:51.000 I'm not that kind of man, baby, or something like that.

01:10:54.000 Oh, Christ.

01:10:54.000 And it's like, whoa.

01:10:56.000 But that's a worm that's in our consciousness that we're supposed to feel like...

01:11:00.000 You know, you took something from me.

01:11:01.000 How dare you?

01:11:02.000 I hope you're never happy again. 1.00

01:11:04.000 But how about the balls to make a fucking song when you're talking about harassing someone's daughter? 1.00

01:11:09.000 Because she doesn't want to fuck you anymore. 1.00

01:11:09.000 Right. 1.00

01:11:11.000 Look at that behavior and wonder why your personality sucks. 1.00

01:11:17.000 Your personality sucks. 1.00

01:11:18.000 That's why she left in the first place, you asshole. 1.00

01:11:20.000 Throw a beer can at her fucking house. 1.00

01:11:22.000 How about you grow up, baby? 1.00

01:11:23.000 Yeah, baby is exactly the word because she's so needy. 1.00

01:11:27.000 He needed what she was going to provide him.

01:11:30.000 It's like as if she's stuck with him forever.

01:11:32.000 She can't do any better.

01:11:34.000 She wants to improve her life. 0.76

01:11:35.000 You're just drinking beer and hanging out by the lake. 1.00

01:11:38.000 Fuck you, dude. 1.00

01:11:39.000 You know? 1.00

01:11:40.000 Here's the lyrics.

01:11:40.000 What is this?

01:11:42.000 Wish I knew how long it's been going...

01:11:44.000 Oh, she cheated on him. 0.99

01:11:45.000 How long you been getting some on the side?

01:11:47.000 Well, a little different.

01:11:49.000 Nah, he can't amount to much by the look of that little truck.

01:11:52.000 Oh, that's hilarious!

01:11:54.000 He can't amount to much because he has a small vehicle.

01:11:58.000 Well, he won't be getting any sleep tonight.

01:12:00.000 Oh, great.

01:12:01.000 Okay, I'm gonna lean my headlights into your bedroom windows, throw empty beer cans at both your shadows.

01:12:07.000 I didn't come here to start a fight, but I'm up for anything tonight.

01:12:10.000 Okay, what?

01:12:11.000 You didn't come to start a fight?

01:12:12.000 What do you think's gonna happen?

01:12:13.000 You mocked his truck. 1.00

01:12:15.000 Okay, you asshole. 1.00

01:12:16.000 You threw beer cans. 1.00

01:12:18.000 You have a fucking spotlight that you use to poach deer. 1.00

01:12:22.000 Putting it through his window. 1.00

01:12:23.000 You know you broke the wrong heart, baby, and drove me redneck crazy, redneck crazy.

01:12:29.000 Do you think I'd wish you the best?

01:12:31.000 Endless love and happiness?

01:12:32.000 You know that's just not the kind of man I am.

01:12:35.000 Yeah, I'm the kind that shows up at your house at 3am.

01:12:37.000 Oh my god. 0.99

01:12:39.000 I'm gonna lean my headlights into your bedroom windows, throw beer, blah, blah, blah, blah, redneck crazy, redneck crazy. 1.00

01:12:44.000 There's the chorus, fuck. 1.00

01:12:45.000 But that, I mean, and people, it's playing on pop radio because it strikes a chord, and I think some girls think, man, he really was into her. 0.99

01:12:52.000 You know, he really loved her because look at what he's doing on the other side.

01:12:56.000 And that's just a tricky little trap that we gotta transcend.

01:13:00.000 The least of my concerns.

01:13:01.000 My concerns is that there'll be guys that listen to it and think it's okay to act like that.

01:13:06.000 For sure. 0.96

01:13:07.000 If a girl is so silly that she thinks, oh, he just loves him. 1.00

01:13:10.000 That's why he's all doing that shooting up the house shit. 1.00

01:13:14.000 You think he really wants to shoot up his fucking house? 1.00

01:13:16.000 Just letting her know he loves her. 1.00

01:13:19.000 There's women who grow up like that. 1.00

01:13:21.000 They have a fucking black eye and they're having this conversation to their kid with a Marlboro hanging out of their mouth. 1.00

01:13:25.000 Listen, sugar, your dad and I have a very passionate relationship, and I push his buttons, you know, and he loves me. 1.00

01:13:32.000 And if he didn't love me, he wouldn't fucking hit me. 0.96

01:13:35.000 And I know it don't make sense to you right now, but someday it will. 0.99

01:13:39.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:13:40.000 That's what I'm worried about.

01:13:41.000 That's this old paradigm that is in dire need of transcendence.

01:13:46.000 And the need is basically, you know, we have to be fully full.

01:13:49.000 I think Don Miguel Ruiz makes the example of, you know, Create enough self-love, enough self-satisfaction, enough inside yourself that you don't need anything from anybody else.

01:13:58.000 Your kitchen is fully stocked, so you're not starving.

01:14:02.000 You stock your own kitchen with your own self-fulfillment, and then you don't need to eat any little burger that comes on the side of the road or some hot dog from a stand, whatever you can get, because you're starving.

01:14:12.000 You've got plenty to eat, and that's, I think, the analogy that we need to have.

01:14:15.000 We need to be full and whole.

01:14:17.000 We need to have standards as human beings that we accept of ourselves. 0.98

01:14:21.000 Like, what you shouldn't accept from yourself, don't accept from yourself that you're the guy that's gonna be outside someone's house at 3 o'clock in the morning shining a headlight through their fucking windows and throwing beer cans. 0.96

01:14:29.000 Don't accept that you're that guy. 0.95

01:14:30.000 You're not that- you can't be that guy.

01:14:32.000 If you're that guy, no one's gonna come to you for advice.

01:14:35.000 No one's gonna take you seriously. 1.00

01:14:37.000 You're a fucking dumbass. 1.00

01:14:38.000 You're a dumbass child who gives in to every whim. 1.00

01:14:42.000 It's like someone who comes after one stroke every time. 1.00

01:14:44.000 I can't help it!

01:14:46.000 Like, you're a baby. 1.00

01:14:47.000 You're a fucking baby. 1.00

01:14:49.000 Learn some goddamn discipline. 1.00

01:14:51.000 Yeah, you feel lonely. 1.00

01:14:51.000 Yeah, it sucks. 1.00

01:14:53.000 Yeah, you get depressed. 1.00

01:14:54.000 Go on Tinder, stupid. 1.00

01:14:55.000 Find some more chicks. 1.00

01:14:56.000 They're everywhere. 1.00

01:14:57.000 People want to fuck. 1.00

01:14:58.000 That's why there's so many of us. 1.00

01:14:58.000 They love it. 1.00

01:15:00.000 What are you doing, man?

01:15:01.000 You tell me you get this one chick, you can't get another chick? 1.00

01:15:04.000 Go get another one, stupid! 1.00

01:15:05.000 And he will, too. 1.00

01:15:06.000 Do not have any friends.

01:15:06.000 That's the thing.

01:15:08.000 Do you not have any friends?

01:15:09.000 Anybody who talks you through it?

01:15:10.000 And goes, dude, dude, dude, come on!

01:15:12.000 Let's go!

01:15:13.000 So what? 0.95

01:15:14.000 People get so goddamn connected when they date. 0.98

01:15:18.000 They get so fucking connected that they feel like you stole something from them. 0.99

01:15:23.000 You've been getting some pleasure from another entity. 0.98

01:15:26.000 I ain't tolerating it.

01:15:29.000 Ah, Santa's bust up your sleep patterns. 1.00

01:15:31.000 I'm gonna fuck with your beta waves. 1.00

01:15:33.000 I'm gonna kick your You fucking rim sleep right in the dick. 1.00

01:15:37.000 You fucked with me. 1.00

01:15:38.000 You fucked with my sleep. 1.00

01:15:41.000 I'm the type of fella that fucks with your sleep back. 1.00

01:15:44.000 That's what he's doing. 1.00

01:15:46.000 He's a fucking baby. 1.00

01:15:49.000 It's like my four-year-old and my six-year-old were having an argument today because my six-year-old was letting the four-year-old write on her paper for a while. 1.00

01:15:59.000 But then she's like, write on your own paper.

01:16:01.000 And she wrote a little bit more.

01:16:02.000 And she's like, I said write on your own paper.

01:16:03.000 Then she wrote on her paper.

01:16:04.000 And she tried to write on her.

01:16:06.000 And they were going back and forth writing on each other's papers.

01:16:08.000 Like, whoa, whoa, whoa! 1.00

01:16:10.000 Saddle the fuck down. 0.99

01:16:10.000 Stop trying to hurt each other. 0.99

01:16:12.000 This is not, this is not how you do with this.

01:16:14.000 Okay?

01:16:15.000 Just, this, we got to learn how to communicate here.

01:16:17.000 But they're four and six! 1.00

01:16:18.000 They're not a fucking 30-year-old man with a pig truck. 1.00

01:16:22.000 Big old jacked up truck. 1.00

01:16:24.000 Yeah.

01:16:24.000 I saw his little truck.

01:16:26.000 He ain't got shit. 1.00

01:16:28.000 He ain't a man. 1.00

01:16:29.000 What kind of little ass truck? 1.00

01:16:30.000 His fucking truck came from another country, too. 1.00

01:16:33.000 Goddamn driving a Toyota truck. 1.00

01:16:35.000 What do you want, reliability? 0.99

01:16:37.000 Yeah, that's the process of growing up.

01:16:39.000 It should be learning to transcend those initial feelings.

01:16:42.000 Like, yeah, that's of course reasonable when you're four and six.

01:16:45.000 We're little monkeys in this crazy world. 0.99

01:16:47.000 We're sorting shit out. 0.99

01:16:48.000 But then as you get more practice at that, that should become more and more absurd with every passing year. 0.94

01:16:54.000 If we just committed to that, committed to not... 0.99

01:16:59.000 Going after people and fucking with people's lives, like showing up at someone's house 3 o'clock in the morning and shining your headlights in the throat. 0.98

01:17:06.000 Just commit to never going there. 1.00

01:17:09.000 Never doing that kind of shit. 0.99

01:17:11.000 Like, never showing up at someone's house and starting a fight. 0.99

01:17:14.000 All that, put all that aside, the world will get like 90% better.

01:17:18.000 Like, instantly.

01:17:20.000 If everyone had a standard of behavior, like, I could...

01:17:22.000 We kind of trust that, yeah, people in this town, they don't fight.

01:17:25.000 You talk things out.

01:17:26.000 Most dudes in this town are rational.

01:17:28.000 Imagine if you had a town like that?

01:17:30.000 Where is this place?

01:17:31.000 Oh, it's just right outside of Seattle.

01:17:34.000 This one town, like everyone's cool.

01:17:35.000 Like what?

01:17:37.000 Everyone's cool.

01:17:38.000 But could you imagine?

01:17:39.000 It might be.

01:17:40.000 It might be like spreading out of Denver right now. 1.00

01:17:42.000 The epicenter of the fucking cannabis nucleus. 0.99

01:17:45.000 It is possible, right? 0.99

01:17:46.000 If you could get a group of friends like we have, we have a group of like 15 dudes that I would give a million bucks to in a bag and never counted if they gave it back to me.

01:17:54.000 There's like 15 of us. 0.99

01:17:57.000 But for most people, it's hard to find fucking people like that. 0.98

01:17:59.000 But if you had a town of 100%ers, 100% down, 100% all, you know, just, you could count on them for everything. 1.00

01:18:09.000 They are who they are. 0.98

01:18:11.000 Goddamn, what a great town that would be. 0.99

01:18:12.000 No one would ever get in fistfights. 0.96

01:18:14.000 Yeah, and I think that's a big key of how to improve our situation is maybe we won't be able to get the whole town, but we can start getting these tribes around us.

01:18:22.000 Yeah.

01:18:22.000 Like you're saying, you have these 15 people.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, they don't all live together, but through travel and through talking...

01:18:38.000 We're good to go.

01:18:57.000 We need that.

01:18:58.000 I mean, that's the kind of creature that we are.

01:18:59.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:19:01.000 And I think that, you know, you know how Uriah Faber has it hooked up, where he owns like a block?

01:19:05.000 Yeah.

01:19:06.000 He's so smart.

01:19:06.000 He has like a bunch of...

01:19:07.000 That dude is just so clever in a bunch of different ways.

01:19:10.000 Very good businessman.

01:19:12.000 Very clever in, you know, how he set himself up outside of the UFC. There's a bunch of houses he flips and stuff.

01:19:18.000 And he's always got something going on.

01:19:19.000 Owns real estate.

01:19:20.000 But him and all these alpha male guys, that's their team.

01:19:24.000 Team Alpha Male is a...

01:19:26.000 One of the top-level, high-level gyms in the country, particularly for the lighter weight classes.

01:19:32.000 Like, they have 135-pound champion TJ Dillashaw, and there's a wealth of, like, real good talent in there, including guys you haven't even heard of yet that you will hear of soon. 0.77

01:19:41.000 But the point being is that he's got it set up where he can kind of do whatever the fuck he wants.

01:19:47.000 You know, he has it set up where he's got, you know, he's got the housing business, he's got the gym he runs, he's got all these different things going on at the same time. 0.81

01:19:57.000 That's a pretty sweet place to be in.

01:19:59.000 Of course.

01:20:00.000 Well, he's got his tribe that actually lives right near him, which is obviously the best case scenario.

01:20:05.000 Yeah, they're all living on one street.

01:20:07.000 Houses that they all own.

01:20:08.000 They just bought houses next to each other.

01:20:10.000 That's so clever.

01:20:12.000 Absolutely.

01:20:12.000 Nobody does that.

01:20:13.000 Everybody says they want to do that, but nobody does that.

01:20:15.000 Nobody does.

01:20:15.000 And it's probably the single thing that would improve people's quality of life way more than the neighborhood or whatever other reasons they're living somewhere is being around the proximity of those people who enrich your life, make it better.

01:20:26.000 Well, Uriah's a real leader, you know, and what he's figured out how to do there is to create this atmosphere, first of all, super supportive, recruits guys, recruited TJ Dillashaw, who's the champ in his weight class, and then when they offered him a shot of TJ recently, he's like, yeah, you know what?

01:20:40.000 I'll fight Frankie Edgar at 145. Let's have a fucking super fight. 0.88

01:20:43.000 Let's get crazy. 1.00

01:20:44.000 You know, you gotta love that, right?

01:20:46.000 You gotta love that he thinks like that.

01:20:47.000 I just love that setup of all the houses on a block.

01:20:51.000 Yeah, and you know, that's going to be possible for some, and I think that's great.

01:20:55.000 And one of the great things about what he's done, to really make tribe, you've got to go back to ritual and these different bonding experiences that allow you to reach that level of trust.

01:21:04.000 You know, shared suffering, you know, the people that you've been in combat together, like Uriah and all those people.

01:21:10.000 That says a lot, because at a certain point, there's a lot of ways to test people, you know, to a certain degree and go through something together.

01:21:16.000 Obviously physical exertion like that, like rolling with somebody, you learn a ton about them.

01:21:20.000 Or doing a psychedelic experience with somebody.

01:21:22.000 You know, you both drink a coffee cup full of ayahuasca, you're going to learn a lot about somebody at that point.

01:21:28.000 Same with all of these different rituals that have been developed. 0.99

01:21:31.000 Put your hand in a mitt full of bullet ants, you're going to learn a lot about a motherfucker, what happens when that pain hits and it's overwhelming.

01:21:38.000 You know, and those were key parts of these societies that We've lost, and it just kind of happens to certain people, and you get this closeness, you know, and I think intentionally bringing that back is going to be really important as well as these new tribal units form. 0.96

01:21:54.000 Well, we have education as far as mathematics, we have education as far as history, we have education as far as grammar and English and language and literature and all these different things that we teach as standard in school, but we don't teach Men, 1.00

01:22:12.000 especially.

01:22:13.000 We don't teach men martial arts.

01:22:15.000 And I think that martial arts, just having the ability to understand how to use your body to defend yourself, psychologically alleviates so much pressure that some people just face and go through life with.

01:22:30.000 They can't defend themselves.

01:22:32.000 And the psychological relieving of that, I think, is an aid to enhancing and understanding other aspects of your life.

01:22:42.000 Also, along the way, while you're doing martial arts, you're doing something difficult, and you push yourself very hard, and you learn about what are these feelings inside you that make you want to quit, when you know you can keep going.

01:22:56.000 If the instructor goes, keep going, keep going, 30 seconds left, and you're doing a flurry on the bag, and you just want to stop.

01:23:02.000 Like, if you were alone, you would stop.

01:23:03.000 But you keep going.

01:23:05.000 And then you understand that you can keep going.

01:23:07.000 And then you understand, okay, well, if I can keep going here, I can keep going in a sparring session.

01:23:11.000 If I can keep going in a sparring session, I can keep going in competition.

01:23:13.000 I can count on myself to when I feel really fucking uncomfortable to hold it together.

01:23:19.000 Because I've experienced that state, I understand what it is, and I refuse to let the limiting negative aspects of that state affect my performance. 0.84

01:23:27.000 I will do everything that my body is physically capable of doing and nothing less.

01:23:31.000 I'm not going to sell it short with a weak mind.

01:23:33.000 But until you've experienced that, it's very difficult to have any confidence in your ability to overwhelm any sort of adversity or overcome any sort of adversity.

01:23:42.000 You don't really ever know if you can do it.

01:23:44.000 So you're always going to have this weird thing.

01:23:46.000 And the difference between men that I know that have experienced that and do it, you know, do difficult things.

01:23:52.000 And not even fighting stuff.

01:23:53.000 Like, the same piece you get out of dudes who are, like, ultramarathon runners.

01:23:57.000 Sure.

01:23:57.000 Guys who do triathletes.

01:23:59.000 Pushing through that resistance.

01:24:00.000 They push through who they are.

01:24:01.000 They understand who they are better than most people.

01:24:03.000 Yeah.

01:24:03.000 And they're just a little bit more aware.

01:24:05.000 Just a little bit more aware.

01:24:06.000 I think especially martial arts does that because of the emotional aspect of the training.

01:24:13.000 It's so terrifying.

01:24:14.000 Sparring is terrifying.

01:24:15.000 All of it.

01:24:15.000 But in getting through that, it makes everything else brighter.

01:24:19.000 It makes everything else lighter.

01:24:21.000 It's like it gives you more freedom with your mind than if you're tussling with these ideas.

01:24:28.000 You're tussling constantly with the fear of being physically incapable of defending yourself.

01:24:33.000 I think it's a massive deficit.

01:24:35.000 It's kind of a perfect storm of two things because you're pushing through immense physical suffering at a certain point, which is incredibly valuable, plus immense fear.

01:24:44.000 And a lot of other things have maybe one of the two, like marathon running, immense physical suffering, no fear.

01:24:49.000 Big wave surfing, immense fear, no physical suffering, except maybe when you get crashed into some coral or something bad happens.

01:24:55.000 Right.

01:24:56.000 And those are good practices, but I think what you're hitting on is that martial arts hits both, and so you have to transcend both.

01:25:02.000 So you'll respond well in situations that are causing fear to come up, and you'll respond well in situations that are particularly challenging on the physical aspect of things.

01:25:11.000 And it's almost like the opposite of that famous Musashi quote, which said, know the way broadly and you'll see it all things.

01:25:17.000 Know the way narrowly, and you will be able to apply it broadly.

01:25:20.000 You know, if you reach really great levels in something specific like that, you'll be able to use that for the rest of your life in everything.

01:25:27.000 It's just, I really think it should be almost required.

01:25:31.000 Almost required.

01:25:32.000 And it doesn't mean you have to be good at it.

01:25:34.000 Just do it to, just to get your state in a better place.

01:25:40.000 Get your mental state in a better place.

01:25:41.000 Especially jujitsu, I think.

01:25:43.000 Yeah, because you have no head trauma.

01:25:44.000 No head trauma.

01:25:45.000 Yeah, that's a big one.

01:25:48.000 I just think people need to do difficult things, and I think life is too goddamn easy.

01:25:52.000 It's too soft for most people.

01:25:54.000 As far as character building, character is only built necessarily under pressure.

01:26:00.000 It's very hard to build character when you're just a person who's won the lottery when you're three, and you sat around all day eating cake.

01:26:08.000 Where's your character?

01:26:09.000 Where is it coming from? 0.99

01:26:11.000 You kind of have to go through some shit. 0.98

01:26:13.000 And I think that's one of the issues with a lot of people in this kind of new age movement, hippies if you want to call them, or whatever your name for them might be, the people in that consciousness movement, let's say, is that there's some part of you when you meet some of them who haven't really been tested where you think, 0.98

01:26:32.000 I see that you haven't really tested yourself under immense pressure.

01:26:37.000 You get this kind of feeling like, what happens if things really get shitty?

01:26:41.000 Am I going to be able to count on you and trust you? 0.99

01:26:43.000 All of these things that you're proposing, are they all going to go to shit? 0.99

01:26:46.000 I have an instinct that they might. 0.99

01:26:49.000 And so I think everybody on both sides are missing this kind of...

01:26:54.000 The dualism of having both, of being able to reach high levels of consciousness, but also put yourself on a mat with someone who you know inevitably in 30 seconds to 5 minutes is going to choke you out.

01:27:08.000 Know that you're going to go through that and what that goes through your body.

01:27:11.000 Being able to do both, I think, is the next wave.

01:27:15.000 Too many times people are on the polarity of that.

01:27:18.000 They're one or the other.

01:27:19.000 They're either really good at the jiu-jitsu side, but they haven't You know push through the realms of consciousness either through Kundalini or psychedelics or meditation or these other things and Conversely on the other side.

01:27:30.000 They haven't tasted what it's feel like to push through extreme fear and adversity adversity Yeah, it's almost like Your car that you're driving through life will work better if you run it over more mountains.

01:27:48.000 It'll work better if you put it in danger.

01:27:51.000 It'll work better if you slam on the brakes more.

01:27:54.000 It'll work better.

01:27:55.000 This is what your vehicle is.

01:27:59.000 Compromising situation that we're in.

01:28:01.000 It's not compromise.

01:28:01.000 It's amazing.

01:28:02.000 We're in the best spot ever as far as human history.

01:28:05.000 We have great medicine.

01:28:06.000 We have great education.

01:28:08.000 Information is available to basically any human being can get a world-class education online.

01:28:14.000 But because of everything being so easy to get food and easy to take care of yourself in comparison to how it was when you're fighting off predators, you don't really use your body that much.

01:28:28.000 Not a lot's going on.

01:28:31.000 Not a lot of stress on the brain as far as life or death situations.

01:28:36.000 There's not a lot of fleeing at full speed, running for your life, trying to get up a tree as quick as you can.

01:28:42.000 There's not a lot of that.

01:28:44.000 It sort of diminishes potential.

01:28:47.000 They did this thing on hunter-gatherers and the difference between the bone structure of the hunter-gatherer and the bone structure of the modern-day man.

01:28:55.000 They're looking at modern humans, and the deterioration of the mass of the bones, and the hands are getting smaller, and the tendons are getting weaker. 0.99

01:29:03.000 We're becoming like those goddamn gray aliens. 0.99

01:29:07.000 I mean, we're slowly but surely going from what we think of as a caveman, just fucking gnarly. 1.00

01:29:14.000 Those Neanderthals, especially, they were like 5'5", 200-plus pounds, just tanks, giant bones, and fucking thick heads and shit. 1.00

01:29:24.000 I mean, they were out there huffing it every day. 0.98

01:29:27.000 And because we're not doing that, everything is, like, feminizing.

01:29:31.000 Everything is, like, thinning.

01:29:32.000 Everything is, like, becoming weaker and weaker and weaker. 0.98

01:29:35.000 And then we're missing out on a key element of the magic of this fucking experience. 0.91

01:29:41.000 You know, this turn in this dimension... 0.97

01:29:43.000 Part of the fun of it is feeling what the body can do and feeling those feelings. 0.94

01:29:48.000 And if we turn into that gray alien type, we're going to be fucking bummed out. 0.97

01:29:52.000 I actually had a vision of that in my ayahuasca session, the last one that I went on, where this alien being came in and I was like, well, what's it like being an alien? 0.83

01:30:04.000 Do you have anything to tell me?

01:30:05.000 And because he was just chilling there and he says, well, being human is very enviable.

01:30:11.000 Because for us, you know, we have no physicality in our realm anymore.

01:30:15.000 That's gone.

01:30:16.000 And you get to experience everything.

01:30:18.000 And he showed me these visions of exactly that. 0.99

01:30:20.000 Like wrestling and fucking and eating crazy meals. 1.00

01:30:24.000 In that order? 1.00

01:30:25.000 No.

01:30:27.000 But everything that we get to do, all of the physical pleasures of this world, he's like, yeah, there's other pleasures of this other realm, this realm of pure consciousness, where everything is smooth, we're generally in a state of bliss, but we're missing the extremes of these physical pleasures,

01:30:44.000 so human life is enviable. 0.86

01:30:46.000 And to just discard that, say, nah, I'm not interested, we're fucking missing out, man.

01:30:51.000 You're missing out on vitality. 0.62

01:30:53.000 You know, that's something that, especially people that don't exercise, they don't take that into consideration when they dismiss it as being some ego-propping device.

01:31:04.000 Oh, what are you doing curls there?

01:31:05.000 You're building up your quads, man? 1.00

01:31:07.000 You're fucking smart. 0.99

01:31:08.000 You know, they, like, somehow or another try to diminish the intelligence of what you're doing by pointing out the benefits of it. 0.99

01:31:16.000 By, like, pointing out that your muscles are larger and stronger. 1.00

01:31:20.000 Somehow you must be stupid. 1.00

01:31:21.000 Like, you know what I mean? 1.00

01:31:22.000 It's, like, it's an adorable thing that they do.

01:31:24.000 It's, like, because it's so transparent.

01:31:26.000 It's so obvious. 1.00

01:31:28.000 You're being so silly that you're going through life with that shit body. 1.00

01:31:32.000 That's what's really going on. 1.00

01:31:33.000 If you just exercise, pretty much everybody that exercises gets stronger.

01:31:38.000 It really works.

01:31:39.000 They've been doing it for years.

01:31:41.000 Just keep doing it, man.

01:31:42.000 You just keep doing it, you get stronger.

01:31:44.000 When you get stronger, your body works better.

01:31:45.000 When your body works better, you do stuff easier.

01:31:48.000 Well, it's so clearly the ego just restructuring a value system so that they can be on top.

01:31:53.000 Oh, what's important?

01:31:54.000 Well, not this.

01:31:55.000 That's actually a diminishment.

01:31:56.000 So therefore, I'm on top.

01:31:58.000 And pretending that somehow or another that if you are fit or if you're muscular or strong, that somehow or another you must be diminished mentally.

01:32:05.000 Because that energy that you put into getting those muscles, you weren't studying. 1.00

01:32:10.000 You want to go, are you studying all day, you fuck? 1.00

01:32:13.000 Are you studying 23 hours a day? 1.00

01:32:14.000 You're not.

01:32:15.000 Then you have an hour to go to the gym.

01:32:16.000 Just go to the gym.

01:32:17.000 It's not that hard.

01:32:18.000 Like, you're talking about something that's not nearly as difficult as you're trying to pretend.

01:32:21.000 You're pretending it's like a lifestyle, 24-7 choice that you have to make, and you've got to keep away from knowledge.

01:32:28.000 You can get just as smart.

01:32:30.000 John Donaher, who's one of the most brilliant people you're ever going to meet, jiu-jitsu instructor from New York, he was a philosophy major.

01:32:38.000 And he was a bodybuilder at the same time.

01:32:40.000 He was into powerlifting and shit when he first found jiu-jitsu. 0.78

01:32:44.000 And he took jiu-jitsu because he wanted to have some skills in case he was in altercations as a bouncer, because he was making a living doing that at night while he was a student. 1.00

01:32:54.000 So it's like this idea that somehow or another strength or masculinity, it goes hand in hand with being an idiot. 0.95

01:33:02.000 It's hilarious that they've actually managed to somehow or another, not they, it's some concerted effort, but the weak souls amongst us that don't want to really look at themselves honestly. 0.99

01:33:13.000 Yeah.

01:33:13.000 Well, and then the meatheads have the same prejudices on the other side.

01:33:17.000 They think, oh, you're doing yoga. 1.00

01:33:20.000 Woo-woo bullshit. 1.00

01:33:21.000 How many dicks you suck at yoga today? 1.00

01:33:22.000 Yeah, exactly. 1.00

01:33:23.000 So they have this same prejudice when really, eventually, you know, the wisest of us are just going to drop all that and say, hey, I want to fucking do it all.

01:33:30.000 Because that's what's capable for the human being.

01:33:32.000 That's what we're here to do.

01:33:34.000 Experience everything we can.

01:33:36.000 Yeah, that's what we really should all be doing.

01:33:38.000 It's like this idea that you have to be in one camp or another camp.

01:33:42.000 Like, we're way closer to each other than we like to think.

01:33:44.000 And the moment we start looking at each other as, like, us or them, you know, like, I've had conversations with people.

01:33:50.000 They find out that, you know, you voted Democrat. 1.00

01:33:52.000 Like, oh, Christ, you're fucking one of them. 1.00

01:33:55.000 Are you mean to tell me? 1.00

01:33:56.000 And they'll, like, ramp up their voice like, whoa, dude.

01:33:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:59.000 Relax.

01:34:00.000 Relax.

01:34:00.000 You know, like, we're not necessarily in an argument here.

01:34:04.000 You know, I guarantee you there's a lot of shit that I agree with that you agree with, too. 0.95

01:34:08.000 Like, we're probably a lot closer than you think on a lot of things. 1.00

01:34:11.000 Well, you know who's the biggest fucking Muslim in this country is Obama. 0.99

01:34:14.000 You ever get in those conversations? 1.00

01:34:16.000 Like, of course.

01:34:16.000 Dude, I can't even talk to you about that.

01:34:18.000 I don't even know where to begin.

01:34:19.000 I don't know.

01:34:19.000 I don't know where this is going.

01:34:20.000 But, like, they think that you are the enemy.

01:34:23.000 Like, you get roped into the enemy, and some, you get categorized.

01:34:26.000 But if there was no Democrat, and there was no Republican, there was no teams, There was just a bunch of stances and positions on issues.

01:34:36.000 We would all be way closer than you think. 0.96

01:34:39.000 It's just when you have representatives and one is blue and one is red and you're playing some weird fucking board game. 0.97

01:34:46.000 What is this? 0.86

01:34:47.000 There's a blue team and a red team? 1.00

01:34:49.000 Do you know how fucking stupid that is? 1.00

01:34:51.000 There's blue states and red states. 1.00

01:34:52.000 The divisiveness of that.

01:34:55.000 The almost...

01:34:56.000 Almost something designed to keep people at odds with each other.

01:35:00.000 Because if you looked at it in terms of just the issues, then you could debate the issues individually, on their own merit, and they wouldn't be attached.

01:35:08.000 Like, pro-life is constantly attached to the right.

01:35:13.000 There's certain gay rights constantly attached to the left.

01:35:17.000 Healthcare reform, left.

01:35:21.000 Finances, anything finances, anything that benefits business, right.

01:35:25.000 It's hilarious.

01:35:26.000 It's so adorable that they've managed to package all this stuff.

01:35:30.000 Well, they're hacking into the dark side of tribalism. 0.99

01:35:34.000 And the dark side of tribalism is when you have a group and fuck everybody else, because they're trying to take what I have. 0.97

01:35:40.000 And all of these setting up of these camps is like a mental hack into this instinctual quality that we developed. 0.98

01:35:47.000 Yeah.

01:36:03.000 But it's the tribalism aspect that people are playing on.

01:36:07.000 And I think politicians and everybody have kind of played to that.

01:36:11.000 When we realize when you level all of that, yeah, you can have your tribe, you know, and that's good. 1.00

01:36:15.000 But beware of the dark side, which is, these are my people, fuck everybody else. 0.99

01:36:19.000 Even the preppers kind of, doomsday preppers have this kind of idea like, I got this thing and fuck everybody else. 1.00

01:36:26.000 Those people are crazy. 1.00

01:36:27.000 That shit is not gonna work. 1.00

01:36:29.000 You're gonna take your shit. 1.00

01:36:30.000 You know, everyone's gonna find out. 1.00

01:36:32.000 They saw you on TV, dummy. 0.69

01:36:34.000 They know where you have your pickles buried. 0.55

01:36:36.000 Like, what are you... 1.00

01:36:37.000 What kind of an asshole are you that prepares for the worst but shows everybody your house? 1.00

01:36:42.000 And this is where we have our ammo. 1.00

01:36:42.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:43.000 Oh, well now I know where to get the ammo. 0.99

01:36:45.000 When the fucking zombie apocalypse hits, I just get into the garage and I got the ammo. 0.98

01:36:49.000 And then you decide which family with two kids comes knocking on your door, you give the food to. 0.99

01:36:53.000 It's just this kind of weird...

01:36:54.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:36:55.000 It's this kind of weird thing, whereas I think seeing everybody as, that could be me in a different circumstance, in a different way.

01:37:02.000 That's me.

01:37:02.000 Oh, that's me.

01:37:03.000 That's me.

01:37:04.000 That's a really cool practice to do, actually, that I've done as well.

01:37:07.000 Go out to a beach somewhere and imagine yourself as each individual.

01:37:10.000 Oh, that's me.

01:37:12.000 I can see maybe where my thoughts have created this body type and this thing.

01:37:15.000 Obviously you're just playing a game, but you're putting yourself actually in everybody's position and understanding they're not that fucking different You know, they just had different genetics different backgrounds and different choices that they made.

01:37:26.000 Yeah, I've talked about it on stage that I had this experience I wrote about it.

01:37:33.000 I had this experience when my My first daughter was about to be born, and I was in Hawaii, and I was on a boat, and I was super high, and these dolphins were jumping around next to the boat, and I was on this insane edible.

01:37:50.000 I was so far gone that I had this weird connection with these dolphins, and I realized how intelligent they were.

01:37:59.000 And I thought, like, I wonder if they're like people.

01:38:02.000 I wonder if, like, I lived a dolphin's life, I would be like a dolphin.

01:38:05.000 Like, if you lived in that water, like, if you have, you think of you, who you are, and if you were in a dolphin's body, I wonder if you literally would be a dolphin.

01:38:12.000 Then I thought about it, and I was like, what if that's how every human being is?

01:38:16.000 That we're all exactly the same thing, but we're living through different biological filters, different life experiences, different genetics.

01:38:23.000 But if you lived my life, you would be me.

01:38:25.000 And if I lived your life, I would be you.

01:38:28.000 And that it's an illusion that And that's what the illusion of separateness is really all about.

01:38:33.000 Everyone's like, there's not an illusion, dude. 0.97

01:38:34.000 This guy beat the shit out of me. 0.83

01:38:35.000 I don't know him. 0.96

01:38:36.000 He's not me. 1.00

01:38:37.000 That guy's a dick. 1.00

01:38:37.000 I'm not him. 1.00

01:38:38.000 Like, people have that, oh, that girl fucking cut my hair. 1.00

01:38:38.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:38:41.000 That is not me cutting my hair.

01:38:42.000 Trust me.

01:38:43.000 We are not one. 1.00

01:38:44.000 I'm gonna fucking stab that hoe. 1.00

01:38:46.000 But if you lived her life, like, that's where the illusion is. 0.99

01:38:46.000 You know? 0.99

01:38:50.000 The illusion is that because we live these separate experiences, that If we all had the agreement that we'd treat each other as if it was us living another life, the world would instantly be better.

01:39:02.000 Instantly.

01:39:03.000 If we could pass that...

01:39:05.000 I mean, everybody wants to pass...

01:39:06.000 There's all sorts of radical ideologies that people push.

01:39:10.000 There's all sorts of radical religions and behavior choices and all sorts of different things that people want other people to subscribe to and want other people to adhere to.

01:39:18.000 But there's a really simple one, a really simple one that's almost a one-liner.

01:39:23.000 Treat everybody as if it's you living another life.

01:39:26.000 And if you did do that, if it turned out to be true, if we, some fucking Nobel Prize winning egghead, figured out in a laboratory that if, like, you could literally take the essence of who is Aubrey Marcus and throw it in Jamie Vernon's body, 0.82

01:39:42.000 you'd be Jamie, if you lived his life up until now. 0.85

01:39:45.000 If they proved it mathematically.

01:39:47.000 And I think that's possible.

01:39:48.000 And what you're hitting on is, you know, I call it, so there's the golden rule.

01:39:52.000 Do unto others as you would do unto yourself.

01:39:54.000 But I think there's the platinum rule, you know, which supersedes that, which very well might be do unto others because they are yourself. 0.99

01:40:03.000 You know, motherfucker just rewrote the golden rule. 0.99

01:40:05.000 Did you hear that? 1.00

01:40:06.000 That motherfucker just rewrote the golden rule. 1.00

01:40:09.000 It's the platinum rule! 1.00

01:40:10.000 The fucking platinum rule is better than the golden rule! 1.00

01:40:13.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:40:14.000 Damn, dude, that's strong. 0.99

01:40:15.000 That's a very strong statement, and you're totally dead on. 0.99

01:40:18.000 Yeah, treat them as if it's you.

01:40:20.000 Mm-hmm.

01:40:21.000 Yeah.

01:40:22.000 Yeah, that's the difference.

01:40:23.000 Treat them because it is you.

01:40:25.000 It's you in a different life and a different filter and different biological switches that have been hit.

01:40:30.000 I think that's why it's so hard to be around people that are falling apart. 0.89

01:40:35.000 I was at the Comedy Store the other night and this woman who used to be a comedian, I don't think she's a comedian anymore, came around and she was drunk and fucked up and confused and she hadn't... 1.00

01:40:44.000 Done stand-up in a long time, and she's probably like close to 60 now. 0.93

01:40:47.000 She's old as fuck, but it just never worked out She's never she was like only an open-miker like 20 years ago, but she kind of would always kind of hang around still and To see her now You know it's it's it's really hard to see someone like like she would try to talk to us But no one could tell anything and everyone's terrified. 0.50

01:41:05.000 She's gonna say hey getting you know, can you guys put me up sometime? 0.99

01:41:08.000 Can I put me up on your show?

01:41:10.000 You know, everyone's terrified she's gonna ask for some sort of comedy help, you know But you got to think like what does it feel like to be that person?

01:41:17.000 Like what what what synapses don't fire what life experience stunts your emotional growth?

01:41:24.000 What puts you in a state of denial?

01:41:26.000 What gives you these blinders that you can't realize the fact that the audience sees you in a way that you don't see yourself So this is this comedy thing is never gonna work Like, you don't even know what you look like.

01:41:37.000 You don't know what you sound like.

01:41:38.000 You don't know how you behave. 0.98

01:41:39.000 And then you see it like manifesting itself 20 plus years later in this disastrous wreck of kind of crazy lady.

01:41:47.000 And you're like, wow, man, that could have been me.

01:41:49.000 You know, if I was born in her body, I lived her life.

01:41:52.000 And you...

01:41:54.000 You take into consideration how difficult it is to turn from that state and improve.

01:42:01.000 We almost give someone no chance. 0.99

01:42:03.000 You never meet someone who's a total fucking loser at 40 and then you meet him at 45 and he's like the best guy ever. 0.99

01:42:11.000 Nobody does it. 1.00

01:42:12.000 Momentum is a motherfucker. 1.00

01:42:13.000 It's really hard to change. 1.00

01:42:14.000 But when you have that attitude where you start looking at people, just as you said, that could be me, the only proper response is empathy.

01:42:21.000 Even if it's someone that perpetrates something against you, and this is a really challenging thing to do, yeah.

01:42:27.000 You know, you want to prevent that. 0.99

01:42:29.000 If someone goes to fuck you up, then fuck them up. 1.00

01:42:31.000 It's your right to defend yourself and protect. 1.00

01:42:31.000 That's fine. 1.00

01:42:33.000 But not do it out of anger.

01:42:35.000 Do it out of necessity.

01:42:38.000 And then the only feeling that you should have towards that is a feeling of pity.

01:42:42.000 It's too bad that that person got to a place where...

01:42:48.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:43:00.000 Exactly.

01:43:01.000 But really, only pity and empathy really come from that.

01:43:04.000 And that's a real state of bliss.

01:43:07.000 You know, like the Tibetan monks, that's what they're meditating on all the time, is getting to that state of empathy.

01:43:13.000 Well, to get to that state of empathy, just look at everybody like they're yourself.

01:43:17.000 And that's the key way to get in there.

01:43:19.000 Yeah.

01:43:20.000 Try pushing that in the public school system.

01:43:24.000 That's one of the key tenants of the public school system.

01:43:27.000 That would work, man.

01:43:28.000 It really would work.

01:43:29.000 It's almost like a simple key.

01:43:32.000 It unlocks a totally different style of thinking.

01:43:35.000 Start doing little things where it's like, what would put yourself in that other person's body?

01:43:41.000 Write from their perspective.

01:43:43.000 I don't know what school drills you could do.

01:43:45.000 Write a story as this person, your friend.

01:43:48.000 You know, and then tell them what, you know, feel what it's like to go through that.

01:43:48.000 Yeah.

01:43:52.000 Like, live these other multiple lives and you'll have, you'll understand that, yeah, you know, that could be me and what, and it'll start to evaporate that from an early age.

01:44:01.000 I think putting it in the school system is brilliant.

01:44:03.000 I think that's what needs to happen.

01:44:05.000 Yeah, there's a lot of things that need to happen with the school system, but that would definitely help the way... 0.99

01:44:10.000 That was taught as a tenant in school instead of reading the fucking Pledge of Allegiance. 0.98

01:44:15.000 You know, I mean, to the republic for which it stands. 0.99

01:44:17.000 Stop.

01:44:18.000 What does that mean?

01:44:19.000 Do you guys know what that means?

01:44:20.000 What does that mean?

01:44:21.000 One nation under God?

01:44:21.000 What does that mean?

01:44:22.000 You know, that didn't even exist, kids, until the fucking Red Scare of the 1950s? 0.96

01:44:26.000 He used to say, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 1.00

01:44:35.000 Fucks! 0.99

01:44:36.000 I mean, most people think that that was like how this nation was founded. 1.00

01:44:39.000 One nation under God.

01:44:40.000 No, that was in the 50s. 1.00

01:44:42.000 But everybody was losing their fucking mind. 0.99

01:44:45.000 And people were going on trial on a regular basis for being communists. 1.00

01:44:49.000 They were blackballing people that...

01:44:51.000 Look... 1.00

01:44:52.000 Think of the crazy shit that you and I have done and think of if we were living in the 1950s. 1.00

01:44:58.000 Did you, in fact, go to the jungle of Peru, Mr. Marcus? 1.00

01:45:02.000 And did you, in fact, imbibe in several toxic medicines? 0.99

01:45:08.000 You would look like a fucking complete nut if they brought you into some sort of a court setting in the 1950s. 0.99

01:45:13.000 But back then, you could even go to a communist meeting. 0.99

01:45:16.000 You couldn't go like, what is this about?

01:45:18.000 Like, what are you guys pushing?

01:45:19.000 You're pushing socialism?

01:45:20.000 And what does that mean?

01:45:21.000 Like, no one, you know, you do whatever you want.

01:45:24.000 Like, do you get paid by the government?

01:45:26.000 Like, how do you contribute?

01:45:27.000 Where's the money coming from? 0.99

01:45:28.000 Like, maybe just go and try to figure out what the fuck everyone's talking about. 0.96

01:45:31.000 And especially amongst creative folk. 0.96

01:45:34.000 I'm sure there's always been a lot of alternative thinkers, whether errant or on the right track.

01:45:39.000 There's been a lot of weird people that think outside the box, always.

01:45:42.000 So in the 1950s, these guys are probably looking at communism and going, okay, let's see. 0.91

01:45:46.000 Look, I got my fucking fortune read by Dianetics once, whatever. 0.89

01:45:50.000 I did one of those stress meters. 0.99

01:45:52.000 I said, okay, let me see what you got.

01:45:53.000 What if I got on a list because of that, man?

01:45:55.000 You know?

01:45:56.000 This was what was going on when they put under God.

01:46:00.000 In our Pledge of Allegiance.

01:46:01.000 It was that kind of madness, insane thinking.

01:46:04.000 They had to put, you know...

01:46:05.000 Yeah, well, these witch hunts have existed.

01:46:07.000 And again, tapping into these old mechanisms, these fear responses, these tribalism instincts.

01:46:14.000 And, you know, these witch hunts, we think, oh, the witch hunts are over.

01:46:17.000 Well, at one point, they're called witch hunts because they were literally hunting witches, throwing them in the water, and seeing if they would swim.

01:46:23.000 You know?

01:46:24.000 And if they drowned, then they weren't a witch. 1.00

01:46:27.000 If they swum, they were a witch, and even worse shit happened to them. 1.00

01:46:29.000 So... 1.00

01:46:30.000 You're completely fucked either way. 1.00

01:46:32.000 They're drowned. 1.00

01:46:33.000 They weren't a witch. 0.66

01:46:34.000 So sorry about your kid, Mr. Johnson.

01:46:37.000 I thought she was a witch. 1.00

01:46:38.000 It turns out she was just a shitty swimmer. 1.00

01:46:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:46:41.000 So that was the witch hunt. 1.00

01:46:43.000 But that's going on today and it's going on, you know, the area that we see it the most is in these psychedelic medicines.

01:46:49.000 You know, people are being hunted for manipulating their own consciousness.

01:46:54.000 You know, even with scientific research coming back, that it's beneficial.

01:46:59.000 They're being, you know, hunted down in these kind of crazy ways and thrown in cages for manipulating their own consciousness.

01:47:06.000 It's crazy.

01:47:06.000 Yeah, there's not too many people getting arrested and thrown in jail for doing it.

01:47:10.000 They're getting arrested and thrown in jail for selling it. 1.00

01:47:12.000 But either way, you know, it's all stupid. 0.99

01:47:14.000 You should be able to sell things that are good. 1.00

01:47:17.000 It's really that simple. 0.86

01:47:18.000 This idea of these people that are non-experienced in these states of mind, they don't really know what they're talking about from a personal level, dictating the legality of those experiences is ridiculous.

01:47:29.000 And if those are the people that are locking you up, I'm kind of on your side.

01:47:33.000 You should be able to sell mushrooms.

01:47:36.000 Did you grow it?

01:47:37.000 Yeah, you deserve some money.

01:47:38.000 Did you grow tomatoes?

01:47:39.000 Yeah, I'll pay you for those too.

01:47:41.000 I don't want to have to grow my own- How are people supposed to get it if people don't sell it? 0.98

01:47:44.000 What the fuck are we talking- he's a farmer! 1.00

01:47:46.000 He's a fucking farmer of awesome shit! 1.00

01:47:48.000 That's what a mushroom dealer is. 1.00

01:47:50.000 He's a farmer of awesome shit. 1.00

01:47:52.000 He's not a drug dealer, you dunce. 1.00

01:47:54.000 And you're subject to the whims of these people. 0.98

01:47:58.000 And that's the people that are willing to lock you in a cage in the first place. 1.00

01:48:02.000 They're fools. 1.00

01:48:03.000 Like, this is like, the worst way to deal with someone who's doing something to alter their consciousness is to put them in a fucking cage. 1.00

01:48:09.000 Like, this is the worst. 0.99

01:48:10.000 I think he was paranoid before, you know? 0.98

01:48:13.000 Imagine if you go to jail for weed, how fucking paranoid you get when you get high? 0.98

01:48:17.000 Yeah, I mean, it's preposterous. 0.97

01:48:20.000 Imagine if we were the owner of a pretty smart pet. 0.73

01:48:23.000 You know, let's say we had a pet chimpanzee.

01:48:25.000 You know, it's a very smart pet.

01:48:27.000 And the chimpanzee found something that reliably made him laugh his ass off and made him a better chimpanzee.

01:48:33.000 You know, what kind of owner would we be if we took that chimp and then threw him in the worst conditions in the tiniest cage and took away his freedom for doing that? 1.00

01:48:42.000 We'd think that person is a fucking despot. 1.00

01:48:44.000 Call animal control. 1.00

01:48:45.000 He's a fucking crazy person. 1.00

01:48:47.000 It's called law enforcement, Aubrey. 1.00

01:48:48.000 You're obviously not aware of what goes on there on the highways and byways of America's greats.

01:48:53.000 I pledge of allegiance to the flag!

01:48:56.000 Instead, I pledge to treat everybody as if it's me living another life.

01:49:01.000 If we started off every class like that, every school, I pledge to treat everybody I meet as if it's me living another life.

01:49:09.000 If everybody adheres to that, everybody, cross the board. 0.98

01:49:12.000 God damn, that would be a better place. 0.98

01:49:14.000 Wouldn't be so much ferocious competition, though. 1.00

01:49:16.000 That would suck. 0.99

01:49:17.000 Some fun shit happens when you don't like your opponent. 0.99

01:49:21.000 That's true, but I don't know that that has to go. 0.99

01:49:24.000 You know, I mean, I think that you can look at that opponent like, alright, he's the motherfucking mountain that's going to bring the best out of me. 0.86

01:49:31.000 So you're going to want to find that.

01:49:33.000 I loved it when Daniel Cormier said, I mean, obviously the fight wasn't that great, but he said, I've been waiting my whole life for a man who's my equal.

01:49:41.000 Jon Jones, be that man.

01:49:43.000 That idea, I think, embodies the beauty of what MMA can be.

01:49:47.000 It's like finding somebody that'll push you to the point that you've never been pushed before.

01:49:52.000 And I think that'll still exist, even in this state.

01:49:54.000 You'll just look at them like, that could be me.

01:49:57.000 This is me.

01:49:57.000 No worries.

01:49:58.000 We'll see what we can do to bring the best out of each Yeah, but not if you if you hate them, it's better.

01:50:04.000 It's better to watch.

01:50:05.000 It's richer.

01:50:06.000 When two people hate each other, it's better to watch.

01:50:08.000 It's richer, for sure. 0.98

01:50:09.000 And when there's some shit talking going on, like we were talking about the Chuck Liddell-Tito Ortiz fight. 0.98

01:50:14.000 Like when Chuck Liddell and Tito, they didn't like each other. 0.98

01:50:16.000 There's a lot of bad blood.

01:50:17.000 So when Chuck beat up Tito, that roar was like extra juicy.

01:50:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:50:21.000 It was extra crazy to watch because there was so much. 0.99

01:50:23.000 Like when Ronda Rousey fought Misha Tate, and they went through that whole season, the ultimate fighter together, and fuck. 0.99

01:50:28.000 And there's all this fucking craziness and all this anger and then Rhonda beats her ass and gets her in an arm bar again after all that like you're like wow That was wild to watch. 1.00

01:50:38.000 You're watching something like super primal Like you're not just watching it on a technical level where you watch two very high level martial artists like she was the first person to push her You know deep into the second and third round. 0.99

01:50:48.000 I think she caught her in the fourth round if I remember correctly. 1.00

01:50:50.000 It was third or fourth But, point being, like, they just didn't like each other, and that made it juicier.

01:50:57.000 It raises the emotional stakes, and I think that's also what's interesting, too.

01:51:01.000 Like, how are they going to perform when the stakes are even this high, and even this high, and even this high?

01:51:06.000 And when they hate each other, you know that it just escalates things, you know, to an even higher degree.

01:51:12.000 And that's, I think, why we even like watching the playoffs, is it's not that somebody gets a little trophy, and that's part of it, but it's, oh, now the stakes are higher.

01:51:20.000 Now...

01:51:20.000 People are going to be crying after the game if they lose, and they're going to be ecstatic if they win, unlike the regular season where it's like, yeah, okay, it's just a game.

01:51:28.000 When the stakes get higher, it becomes more interesting because we're interested in the reaction that humans are going to have in these different scenarios.

01:51:35.000 Yeah, we wonder how we would fare.

01:51:39.000 I remember being a kid and watching boxing matches and seeing guys get beat up against the ropes or something like that, and you almost see yourself moving.

01:51:50.000 You're trying to figure out, what should he do?

01:51:52.000 He's got to get out of there. 0.98

01:51:53.000 He's got to hit that guy.

01:51:54.000 But you don't really know how to fight, but you're still watching it, and you're just like...

01:51:58.000 It's like you're putting yourself sort of in there in some way.

01:52:01.000 You're watching it.

01:52:03.000 Especially back then, I always had a guy.

01:52:05.000 You know, I was rooting for this guy, I was rooting for that guy.

01:52:08.000 You know, boxing fans would always have a guy you'd pick.

01:52:12.000 Like, I'm a De La Hoya fan. 1.00

01:52:13.000 Fuck him, bro! 1.00

01:52:14.000 Who else is Chavez and shit? 1.00

01:52:16.000 And people would have those fucking guys that they would stick with. 1.00

01:52:20.000 And when your guy's getting beat up or he's in trouble, you're not appreciating it on a technical level. 0.99

01:52:25.000 You're almost like, oh!

01:52:26.000 You're almost like getting beat up yourself.

01:52:28.000 I remember one of the most terrifying moments I had, because I've done striking since I was little, never that serious, but I had a lot of instructors who were very complimentary early.

01:52:37.000 So they had me believing that, man, Aubrey, you hit someone, they're done, son.

01:52:42.000 I had this kind of false belief, and obviously once I started sparring, I realized that that wasn't the case, but I had some remnants.

01:52:49.000 Of that, that I was carrying, and then I saw Kimbo slice in one of these street fights, right?

01:52:54.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:52:54.000 In a bare knuckle fight, and this other huge dude catches him with a left hook, and Kimbo just drops his hand and goes, hit me again, motherfucker, hit me again, and just leans forward with his head, and the other dude hits him again and does nothing. 0.98

01:53:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:53:09.000 Does nothing. 0.99

01:53:10.000 He says, now you're dead, motherfucker, and then catches him with this uppercut and just blows up his face. 1.00

01:53:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:15.000 Exploded his face. 1.00

01:53:17.000 And I was like, there's nothing I could do to that guy if he was that fired up and charging.

01:53:22.000 And it was this terrifying moment where you realize what your boundaries are in the world.

01:53:27.000 I couldn't hit him and knock him out. 1.00

01:53:29.000 Everything I'd been told was bullshit. 0.99

01:53:31.000 There's no way I could do anything to that man at that point. 0.98

01:53:36.000 Well, physical size and structure is so giant, and he actually knows how to fight, too. 0.97

01:53:42.000 But physical size and structure is so fucking big. 0.79

01:53:44.000 It's so important. 0.96

01:53:47.000 We look at it in terms of its success in weight classes, and the really big, strong guys don't necessarily tend to be the best guys in the weight class.

01:53:54.000 It's about whose body's optimized for that weight class, so you don't really want to be carrying around a lot of muscle.

01:53:59.000 But if you are, and someone's smaller than you, it makes you better. 0.61

01:54:03.000 It makes you fucking bigger and stronger and everything works better. 0.99

01:54:08.000 It might not work as good against another guy who's 240 pounds who's like got a leaner body and better lungs, but, you know, Kimbo Slice is a goddamn giant human being who can punch people in the face all the time with no gloves on. 0.99

01:54:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:54:23.000 Like, Jesus. 0.99

01:54:25.000 He's fighting again, you know.

01:54:26.000 He's fighting Ken Shamrock.

01:54:28.000 He was a guy that, you know, I think never really fought to what his physical capability was.

01:54:33.000 Like, his hardware had a certain potential, like the limits on it.

01:54:36.000 Like, if you look at him like a computer, he's like, oh, it's got this much, you know, these attributes, this much remedy, this much memory, this much RAM, blah, blah, blah.

01:54:42.000 But the software running it inside the cage, I felt like never optimized what his gifts were, you know?

01:54:49.000 Another one of those interesting things where psychologically it didn't bring the best out of what his frame Could be.

01:54:56.000 Yeah, that's interesting, man.

01:54:57.000 You know, he had problems before he ever even got on the Ultimate Fighter with his knees.

01:55:00.000 His knees are pretty significantly diminished.

01:55:03.000 He has, like, serious, like, bone-on-bone, like, arthritis-type conditions in his knees. 0.95

01:55:08.000 And so, like, for him, like, grappling is an issue, kicking's an issue, all those things are issues, you know, and he, you know, he had a lifetime of sports, football, and, you know, did a lot of, uh, Striking training obviously all the over the years man chewed that shit up especially football football's brutal on the knees man carrying porn stars in and out of limos that happens You know he had to do that a lot do that. 0.86

01:55:32.000 Yeah, they're probably like him. 0.84

01:55:33.000 Yeah probably he's he's also He's in a weird time like he might be like a little too Late for like all the rejuvenation shit that they're coming up with right now like they're 3d mapping meniscus Have you seen this?

01:55:47.000 Dude, they have some article about how they're 3D mapping essentially what it looks like. 0.89

01:55:52.000 It's like a scaffolding for meniscus.

01:55:54.000 And there's certain proteins in this.

01:55:56.000 They insert it into the space between your joint, you know, where your meniscus is.

01:56:00.000 Which, you know, now when you get it scoped, like, I had my left knee scoped a few years back.

01:56:04.000 Like, you don't get any extra padding back.

01:56:06.000 That's it.

01:56:06.000 Like, your padding is diminished now.

01:56:08.000 The knee doesn't bother me. 0.98

01:56:09.000 It feels way better than when it was fucked up. 0.94

01:56:13.000 Now what they're doing is they're just taking it all out, and they're putting this 3D thing that they 3D print, and with these proteins in it, your body starts building meniscus inside this framework somehow or another. 0.96

01:56:27.000 I might be totally butchering this.

01:56:29.000 But essentially, they have artificial meniscus for the first time ever.

01:56:33.000 They really weren't able to fix that thing.

01:56:36.000 There's actually two different solutions, I think, currently on the horizon.

01:56:39.000 But this knee meniscus generated with 3D implant.

01:56:44.000 Look at this.

01:56:44.000 You can watch it.

01:56:45.000 It's just a perfect fit.

01:56:46.000 I mean, we're going to get to the point where our bodies are just like cars.

01:56:49.000 You know, you can upgrade any system.

01:56:51.000 You can change it out.

01:56:52.000 And I think the crazy thing that we alluded to, they'll come a point where I believe we'll be able to upload our consciousness into a brand new car.

01:57:01.000 You know, and that will be the point of immortality to a certain degree because you could just keep creating these new cars and then just upload your car. 0.99

01:57:10.000 Oh shit, I fucking fucked this one up. 1.00

01:57:12.000 I got cancer. 1.00

01:57:12.000 I crashed it. 1.00

01:57:13.000 No worries.

01:57:14.000 Let me hop over into this other one.

01:57:16.000 What if that's hell?

01:57:17.000 What if that's hell?

01:57:18.000 What if heaven is just getting over this body and achieving the next state of consciousness, which is non-local, completely undependent upon your physical prison, but you were like, dude, you were just going to get out of jail, and you decided to transfer your sentence to some cyber prison where you'll live in your own mind forever and ever and ever,

01:57:40.000 repeating yourself ad nauseum through space.

01:57:44.000 Instead, you could have been one with the great consciousness of the universe.

01:57:47.000 Especially if no one who passed over to the other side could communicate.

01:57:50.000 You know, they'd be just yelling from the other...

01:57:52.000 Don't do it! 1.00

01:57:53.000 Just die! 1.00

01:57:54.000 You'll see. 1.00

01:57:55.000 It's amazing.

01:57:55.000 You get to start again anyways, and it's more awesome.

01:57:59.000 Because you get this side and then that side. 0.98

01:58:01.000 Who fucking knows, man. 0.98

01:58:03.000 I'm not totally enthusiastic about the prospect of becoming one of those gray aliens, though. 1.00

01:58:08.000 No.

01:58:09.000 Me neither.

01:58:10.000 I've been talking about that for years, about that simulation theory.

01:58:16.000 I talked to this guy, Richard Turiel, who's from the JPL Laboratories, when I was doing that Joe Rogan Questions Everything show.

01:58:23.000 For whatever reason, when you talk to a serious, legitimate, working scientist, an actual doctor of science, If you talk to them about it, it just makes it seem like way more palatable than if you talk to Duncan.

01:58:37.000 But when Duncan talks about it, it seems a little bit more sexy.

01:58:40.000 But this guy, what he was saying essentially is that it's basically inevitable that we're going to come up with some sort of an artificial reality.

01:58:50.000 That is indiscernible from the reality that we're currently enjoying.

01:58:53.000 It's going to be artificial.

01:58:55.000 We're going to create it.

01:58:56.000 We're going to be totally manipulated.

01:58:58.000 It's going to evolve over time.

01:58:59.000 It's going to get better and better as the technology moves on and on.

01:59:02.000 It's going to get to a point where you literally are not going to be able to tell the difference.

01:59:05.000 And if that's the case, Has that already happened?

01:59:09.000 And if it has already happened, would you be able to be aware of it?

01:59:13.000 What would you be if we had gotten past this? 0.99

01:59:15.000 Well, if you go back to fucking gorillas, you look at gorillas, you look at lower primates, you look at these dick-swinging monkeys hanging out in Africa, you know, just swinging from tree to tree until somebody figured out how to become a person, right? 0.99

01:59:26.000 Over all these years, however the hell it went. 0.99

01:59:28.000 Look at what they look like.

01:59:30.000 Look at a gorilla.

01:59:31.000 And then look at a person.

01:59:32.000 And look at the feminized person of the modern era. 1.00

01:59:34.000 And then look at those goddamn aliens. 1.00

01:59:36.000 It's almost like that's the archetype. 1.00

01:59:38.000 Like, we know that's coming.

01:59:39.000 Like, we know the big head, no mouth, you don't need to talk. 0.99

01:59:42.000 You wear permanent sunglasses because you fucked up the ozone layer. 0.99

01:59:46.000 You know, your skin is like some sort of a gray bulletproof material that we've, you know, you don't have any sex organs because you can experience any pleasurable Kundalini yoga state in your mind anytime you want. 0.99

01:59:57.000 Like regular blowjobs is just not that exciting when you can, you know, travel from dimension to dimension. 0.95

02:00:02.000 That might even be how they're arriving and going back and forth. 0.99

02:00:06.000 But there might be a part of them miss his head.

02:00:09.000 Misses muscle cars.

02:00:11.000 Misses whiskey.

02:00:12.000 Obviously the vision state, you don't know if it's real or in your mind, whatever.

02:00:15.000 I don't even make that discernment, but when I was in that vision state and talking to them, they missed it.

02:00:20.000 They missed it.

02:00:21.000 We're lucky.

02:00:21.000 We're in the right spot.

02:00:22.000 We got the honey hole.

02:00:23.000 This is the Goldilocks zone.

02:00:25.000 That's it.

02:00:25.000 We get to access everything.

02:00:26.000 We get to access everything, and there's a time where we're sort of working it out.

02:00:30.000 Like, there's a culture.

02:00:31.000 People are working it out, I think.

02:00:32.000 There's a lot of... 0.99

02:00:33.000 In the working out, there's a lot of noise and chaos and shit that's going on, I think. 1.00

02:00:39.000 Tea party people and fucking Occupy people. 0.99

02:00:43.000 There's a lot of cult of personality and cult of ideology that's going along with a lot of these things. 1.00

02:00:48.000 But...

02:00:49.000 Throughout all of it, throughout people complaining about fat shaming and, you know, all the weird uber sensitivity that you see today.

02:00:59.000 The trend, though, all of it seems to be this kind of emerging understanding of how we interact with each other.

02:01:07.000 It's like, there's battles back and forth, there's waves, but like, if you're looking at like, what is this, when this, all this water settles, what am I seeing here?

02:01:16.000 What am I seeing here?

02:01:17.000 I'm seeing an emerging understanding.

02:01:19.000 Emerging understanding and along the way there's a lot of competing factions that want to be the most morally upstanding and take the high ground and be the one who is always there to call bullshit and the social justice warriors that are Just looking to be mean so that they can prove to you the way to live right.

02:01:34.000 Like looking to find people aren't living the way they're living and just shitting all over them and shame them into a different way of thinking.

02:01:40.000 All this is just emerging.

02:01:42.000 It's an emerging understanding of what we are and the connectivity that we share and the demands.

02:01:49.000 Like when you see these Black Lives Matter marches and these protests, these people would walk around in these I Can't Breathe shirts.

02:01:57.000 They're expanding this understanding of the reach of the upset people.

02:02:03.000 Like, this is not a minor thing that you can only, you know, vote about every four years.

02:02:08.000 This is something you can put a giant ripple in the entire culture right now by everybody just wearing a bunch of t-shirts that say something on it.

02:02:16.000 And then everybody realizes, like, okay, this is, it's not just a social media trend.

02:02:20.000 It's not just a hashtag.

02:02:22.000 On Twitter and Facebook. 0.99

02:02:23.000 It's also, like, the entire country, like a big chunk of it, collectively saying, hey, this is fucked up. 0.99

02:02:29.000 Like, we can do better. 0.98

02:02:31.000 And, oh, we can talk about this. 0.99

02:02:33.000 And, oh, you know, we're connected in some fucking weird way now where we can kind of organize shit like this collectively. 0.97

02:02:39.000 And, you know, there's no real leader. 0.96

02:02:41.000 There's no real leader of any of those movements.

02:02:43.000 But people gravitate towards them.

02:02:46.000 And so those things, they all have that in common.

02:02:49.000 They all have this new connectivity thing in common.

02:02:54.000 And I think that's really the trend.

02:02:56.000 And we're able to draw wisdom, pieces of wisdom, from all different disciplines.

02:03:00.000 And that's been something cool that I've Seeing as I've gotten, you know, the ability to reach more different people, experts in certain things, you know, will come in and add a little piece of understanding from their traditional scope where, you know, most people wouldn't even get to put that in part of their framework.

02:03:17.000 You know, and you get to add that piece and add this piece over here.

02:03:20.000 Like, you know, I can get a piece from Duncan about Buddhism.

02:03:23.000 And one of these great pieces that he added recently is the Buddhists have a name for that visceral feeling you get right before you do something bad and get angry at someone or that emotion.

02:03:35.000 Well, the Buddhists have a name for that little feeling that comes up. 0.98

02:03:38.000 You know, I was like, oh yeah, I've felt that little fucking thing that comes out. 0.97

02:03:42.000 It's like this rush of energy right before you do something, you know, you really know that you shouldn't do. 0.92

02:03:47.000 And then so you add that little piece of understanding, aha, the name of that thing is this, so I can be more conscious of it and aware of it.

02:03:54.000 And then I have another friend, you know, Ted, who studies the Christian text and puts new meaning to what those things were before they were manipulated for power and kind of maneuvered and Like, ah, okay, so we can add that.

02:04:07.000 And then so you start to piece together this understanding where, of course, there's no leader.

02:04:11.000 It's just led by, you know, truth and consciousness.

02:04:14.000 And that's, I think, the next wave is just finding what feels real, what feels right, what you can use to make your life better.

02:04:23.000 Yeah.

02:04:23.000 Also, we just know, there's so much information available today, I think it's easier to kind of get an understanding of what's tripping you up.

02:04:30.000 You know, it's easier to get an understanding of, like, there's a lot of people that behave in a certain way, like that Redneck song that we're talking about.

02:04:37.000 And they've been supporting that, and they've been like, man, he had to do what he had to do.

02:04:41.000 You know, he had to do what he had to do.

02:04:43.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:04:45.000 You leave a man alone when you gotta do what you gotta do.

02:04:47.000 And that sort of, like, perpetuating that...

02:04:52.000 Over and over and over again, like if you do that over a long period of time, it can ruin an entire area.

02:04:59.000 Like if a bunch of people think like that, like, oh, this area's polluted with this idea.

02:05:03.000 Right.

02:05:04.000 Like it gets polluted, like polluted with he gotta do what he gotta do.

02:05:07.000 You know, like there's areas of the country that for the longest time were polluted, where if you were in an interracial relationship, you couldn't walk down the street. 0.88

02:05:15.000 If you walked down the street, you would risk physical attack.

02:05:19.000 Because you had a black girlfriend, or you had a white girlfriend, and you're a black guy, or whatever. 0.93

02:05:25.000 That was a reality for a long time in the South.

02:05:30.000 It's still a reality in some spots. 0.98

02:05:33.000 There's places you go, there's weird places in Texas where you take a few left turns, you drive for a few hours, and all of a sudden you're in this fucking weird place.

02:05:42.000 And there's some people that don't have a whole lot of contact with the outside world.

02:05:45.000 That's an outlier.

02:05:46.000 That's like one of those weird bases that they would go to on Star Wars when they needed fuel. 0.97

02:05:50.000 You know, like, what the fuck are we doing out here? 0.97

02:05:52.000 Like, let's get out of here! 0.99

02:05:54.000 You know, that's literally where you are.

02:05:56.000 You're in a colony.

02:05:59.000 Like some weird post that never caught on.

02:06:01.000 And it's in the middle of some weird place, East Texas. 0.99

02:06:04.000 And you're like, what the fuck is this? 0.99

02:06:06.000 Those spots are still real, man. 0.99

02:06:08.000 They're still real.

02:06:08.000 And they're getting less real all the time.

02:06:10.000 And I think...

02:06:12.000 You know, the big push is always just that human beings are constantly trying to improve.

02:06:18.000 I mean, we constantly try to improve everything.

02:06:20.000 And we're going to try to improve culture and relations and understanding.

02:06:24.000 And if you look at the way things are now, as opposed to the way they were just in the early 1900s, I mean, the changes have been pretty fucking dramatic.

02:06:33.000 From 1900 to 2015 is, you know, massive.

02:06:38.000 But it's only 115 years. 0.98

02:06:40.000 115 years in the real world is like, God damn, that's a blink of an eye. 1.00

02:06:44.000 That is a fucking blink of an eye. 0.99

02:06:46.000 If you chart time... 1.00

02:06:47.000 Time versus change.

02:06:48.000 It takes this hockey stick curve way up because things are going so fast.

02:06:53.000 But I think one point that you've made often is, you know, these conditions that are really fucked up, they have a reaction on the other side.

02:07:00.000 They form resistance that allows people to actually Propel themselves even farther in the other direction.

02:07:07.000 You know, it's like the action has a reaction.

02:07:09.000 So the bias towards, you know, the racial bias, for example, can actually potentially propel people the other side to make greater leaps in consciousness and understanding what we're talking about, that we're all just ourselves living another life.

02:07:24.000 You know, like these conditions can create a positive response.

02:07:28.000 And I think that's kind of what we're seeing at this point.

02:07:31.000 Yeah, and then the social justice warrior overreaction is really just a reach. 0.95

02:07:36.000 It's like a comedian who makes a shitty joke.

02:07:40.000 It's essentially the same kind of thing. 0.51

02:07:42.000 It's like it's just missing the mark.

02:07:44.000 I think there's a lot of white people, especially when anything goes wrong, where they are struggling to appear down.

02:07:52.000 You know, and they'll sometimes be racist against white people in order to show that they love black people so much and they're not racist at all.

02:07:59.000 There's a bunch of people that I follow and I can't tell you who they are because then they'll know and they'll change their behavior and it'll affect my studies.

02:08:06.000 But it's fascinating to see people like write racist stuff against white people.

02:08:12.000 I think it's okay.

02:08:12.000 Like, you're allowed to generalize against white people.

02:08:15.000 You know how fucking goofy that is? 0.99

02:08:17.000 Like, I know a lot of really fucking cool white people. 0.99

02:08:22.000 And I know that's not popular to say. 0.98

02:08:24.000 Like, for some reason, you're supposed to be embarrassed about being white.

02:08:27.000 And if you are, you're definitely embarrassed of knowing white people that you like.

02:08:31.000 You have to, like, talk about how many black people you know that you like.

02:08:33.000 I know a lot of black people I like too. 0.99

02:08:35.000 But I also know a lot of awesome fucking white people. 1.00

02:08:38.000 And I think generalizing towards any fucking gender, ethnicity, whatever, it's stupid. 1.00

02:08:43.000 I'm not going to do it. 1.00

02:08:44.000 I'm not going to pretend.

02:08:45.000 Yeah.

02:08:46.000 Modifying any aspect of your behavior one way or another because of identification with the color of skin and genetics...

02:08:53.000 That is just perpetuating it, you know, even further.

02:08:56.000 That idea of separateness that my tribe, your tribe.

02:09:00.000 So overcompensating is in itself a form of racism to a certain degree.

02:09:04.000 You know, just be real. 0.99

02:09:06.000 Just treat people as fucking as humans. 0.99

02:09:08.000 Don't worry about overcompensating or compensating. 0.99

02:09:11.000 And that's also in terms of sexism, because there's a lot of men who are sexist against men.

02:09:17.000 Yeah.

02:09:18.000 They really are.

02:09:19.000 They'll take a woman's side automatically to be a white knight, and that's one of the things that people hate on the internet. 0.99

02:09:25.000 They hate white knights.

02:09:26.000 People get crazy when they catch someone doing it, when it's pretty obvious what they're doing.

02:09:30.000 When someone is not looking at the objective facts, or the...

02:09:33.000 Okay, what was really going on here?

02:09:35.000 What's the real story?

02:09:36.000 And they automatically aside with the woman's... 0.99

02:09:39.000 With the woman's take on things and when you see that especially when it gets revealed the one was full of shit later It's always so juicy and glorious. 1.00

02:09:46.000 I love following those fucking trails and watching it all play out It's just it's so bizarre. 0.97

02:09:51.000 It's so bizarre to watch that behavior that Smeagol from the fucking Lord of the Rings like behavior And that's really what it's like. 0.99

02:09:58.000 There's something that they're doing. 0.96

02:10:00.000 They're like It's like you're distorting reality for your own benefit to try to appear that you're adhering to a higher moral standard than those around you to make yourself look more desirable. 0.99

02:10:11.000 It's really that simple, and it's fucking gross. 0.79

02:10:14.000 And people's, you know, at that point, people's belief detectors, that thing that we use to know when someone's faulty and cracked, they start going haywire, you know? 0.98

02:10:22.000 Gears start flying off. 0.90

02:10:23.000 You're like, you're fucking up to something here. 0.98

02:10:25.000 This is not just you. 0.99

02:10:27.000 And so the belief detectors go crazy.

02:10:30.000 Yeah, that's the beta thinking.

02:10:33.000 It's okay to be beta.

02:10:35.000 No, it's not.

02:10:37.000 It's not.

02:10:38.000 It's not good for you.

02:10:40.000 You don't have to be alpha either.

02:10:42.000 I feel like there's a state of acceptance that you should probably achieve instead of either or.

02:10:48.000 Just being what you're capable of being, that's it.

02:10:52.000 Yeah, you don't have to try to be alpha.

02:10:54.000 There's this one quote that I've been kind of stuck on recently, and it pertains to starting right now at this point, and it's from William Butler Yeats, and he said, Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot, but make the iron hot by striking.

02:11:09.000 That guy doesn't know how irons work. 1.00

02:11:11.000 That guy's an idiot. 1.00

02:11:12.000 It doesn't work that way. 1.00

02:11:14.000 You gotta throw the iron in there. 1.00

02:11:16.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

02:11:20.000 These fucking poets that have never worked as a blacksmith, exactly! 1.00

02:11:26.000 He's a poet. 1.00

02:11:27.000 He is a poet. 0.99

02:11:28.000 He's being silly. 1.00

02:11:29.000 He's a silly boy. 0.99

02:11:30.000 He's never hit anything. 1.00

02:11:32.000 Strike.

02:11:32.000 Make the iron high.

02:11:33.000 It doesn't work that way.

02:11:35.000 Well, things do get hot when you smash them. 0.97

02:11:37.000 You'd have to fucking be really ineffective with your striking. 0.98

02:11:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:11:43.000 Truth.

02:11:44.000 We've dismantled Butler Yeats as a blacksmith. 0.94

02:11:47.000 But the idea is, you know, just fucking go at it by start, just start doing it.

02:11:52.000 You know, I mean, we're talking all this philosophy about what you can, and that may seem out of reach to people, like, oh, how am I going to do that? 0.87

02:11:58.000 How would I, you know, do martial arts?

02:12:00.000 I've never even come close to that.

02:12:02.000 Well, you just do it. 0.97

02:12:03.000 You don't wait for this perfect opportunity when job and money and everything aligns and You read your fucking horoscope in the paper, and it says you're gonna try new things this day, and everything is just perfect. 0.98

02:12:14.000 Just do it. 0.97

02:12:15.000 Just go out there, do a little bit.

02:12:16.000 Dude, Anthony Bardain started jujitsu at 58. 58. No athletic background.

02:12:24.000 Used to do heroin.

02:12:26.000 Smoked cigarettes five years ago. 0.99

02:12:28.000 I mean, this guy started jujitsu at 50 fucking eight years old. 0.98

02:12:31.000 Now he does it every day. 0.99

02:12:32.000 He does it like two hours a day.

02:12:34.000 He has a private lesson every day and takes a class every day. 1.00

02:12:36.000 Like, what the fuck, man? 1.00

02:12:38.000 He takes a class, then he works on all the shit he did wrong with an instructor, and the guy goes over positions with him. 1.00

02:12:45.000 You can do things, okay? 0.99

02:12:47.000 As long as you can figure out a way to finance it.

02:12:52.000 What do I do?

02:12:54.000 That's the problem. 1.00

02:12:55.000 You're on your own path, fuckface. 1.00

02:12:57.000 I might be you living another life, but in your life, you gotta get your own shit together. 1.00

02:13:01.000 I don't have time to figure out what you should do, okay? 0.96

02:13:04.000 That's what you're supposed to do, and I don't know you, dude.

02:13:07.000 That's the other problem. 0.95

02:13:08.000 You know, you can't give anybody advice because, you know, like if you're talking to someone and they want to be a lounge singer and they sound like shit, and you go, well, first of all, lounge singing? 0.97

02:13:15.000 I don't know if there's a future in that. 1.00

02:13:16.000 And second of all, dude, your voice is dog shit. 1.00

02:13:19.000 I don't know what to tell you. 1.00

02:13:20.000 Like, that guy's got to figure out how to make his voice good.

02:13:22.000 That's a lot of work.

02:13:23.000 He's got to revive lounge singing. 0.98

02:13:25.000 So he's got to fucking, you can't give everyone advice, but what you can do Have these kind of conversations be really honest about what's worked and what hasn't worked for you and Point out all the shit that you're noticing in this crazy world. 0.89

02:13:40.000 That's what we've been able to do That's what most folks that are online that are tuned into the world have been able to do with information and news and and and just Discussion that that's going on now and that really Hasn't ever taken place like this before amongst people, 0.98

02:13:57.000 where people are like debating issues all across the country, and whether it's fucking Obamacare, or whether it's the fucking invasion of Persia, whatever the fuck it is, isn't even a country anymore, is it?

02:14:09.000 You know what I'm saying, anything that's going on in the world, The ability to write blogs, to discuss it, to have people leaving comments on those blogs, to have people writing tweets, responding to those tweets, those tweets becoming articles. 0.97

02:14:21.000 Let's debate the merits of this tweet.

02:14:23.000 This is like, whether it's right or wrong, whether it's ideologically driven, whether it's honest or manipulated, it's a weird exchange.

02:14:32.000 There's an exchange of data that's going on now.

02:14:35.000 In this really weird state that I think we're just so caught up in it that we're not realizing how much is changing. 0.59

02:14:43.000 You're not supposed to say retard anymore.

02:14:45.000 You know that?

02:14:46.000 Yeah, they're slowly but surely closing in on all the words that might potentially hurt people's feelings.

02:14:51.000 You're not supposed to say, you know, all the standard ones, right? 0.99

02:14:55.000 Like fag. 1.00

02:14:55.000 You're not supposed to say any racial slurs. 1.00

02:14:58.000 Those are all out the window.

02:14:59.000 Those are getting removed from our culture.

02:15:03.000 Over a period way quicker than it's ever happened before.

02:15:06.000 They're going at it the wrong way.

02:15:08.000 They're saying these things can hurt you.

02:15:10.000 So they're telling people that they're vulnerable.

02:15:11.000 You're vulnerable because these things can hurt you.

02:15:14.000 So we're going to remove these things. 0.98

02:15:16.000 Whereas really the message should be that you're fucking invincible. 0.94

02:15:20.000 That word can't hurt you unless you let that word hurt you. 0.98

02:15:23.000 You know, you have the right of your own sovereignty of how you feel about yourself.

02:15:28.000 That...

02:15:28.000 Someone saying a word shouldn't make you feel any different way.

02:15:32.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:15:33.000 You feel that way.

02:15:35.000 I'm sorry that you're in a state that you have that much anger and prejudice that you feel that way, but it doesn't affect you.

02:15:41.000 Listen to you, Richard Gere.

02:15:43.000 That's...

02:15:44.000 That's the way that, you know, that's the way that we got to do it.

02:15:48.000 Not remove all of these potential things that can hurt you. 0.99

02:15:50.000 Just tell people, hey, motherfucker, you're invincible as far as your emotional state if you want to be. 0.98

02:15:56.000 Also, it's really, you make a person more vulnerable when you make words taboo. 0.99

02:16:03.000 You make those words have more power, whether those words are racial, whether they're about gender or sexual orientation, whatever the slurs are, you make them way more powerful when you make them taboo. 0.96

02:16:15.000 If you call someone a fucker, if that hurts your feelings, we can't talk. 1.00

02:16:20.000 Like, hey, fucker, come on, man. 1.00

02:16:22.000 Like, if someone does something and knocks a drink over on your lap, like, hey, fucker, what up, man? 1.00

02:16:29.000 If you can't say that to someone, you can't be friends with that person. 1.00

02:16:32.000 Right.

02:16:32.000 You can't.

02:16:33.000 They're too goddamn sensitive. 1.00

02:16:34.000 But if a guy spilled a drink in your lap and he was gay and you're like, you faggot. 1.00

02:16:39.000 Like, whoa. 1.00

02:16:40.000 Everybody just dropped their drinks at the bar.

02:16:42.000 What did he say?

02:16:43.000 Did you hear the noise he made?

02:16:44.000 What is the noise that came out of his mouth?

02:16:46.000 Was it F-A-G-G-O-T? Is that what he said?

02:16:49.000 Wow, I can't believe he made that noise.

02:16:51.000 What is his intent?

02:16:52.000 What is really going on in his head?

02:16:53.000 Does he not know that it's a taboo word?

02:16:55.000 Like, everybody just shuffles out of the party. 1.00

02:16:56.000 Well, I guess this fucking party's over. 0.99

02:16:58.000 And people leave. 0.99

02:16:59.000 Like, there's certain circles where if you did something like that, just even as a joke, You would automatically get ostracized.

02:17:07.000 You would automatically get like...

02:17:08.000 So, is that smart?

02:17:11.000 To give a word that much power?

02:17:13.000 No.

02:17:14.000 But are they onto something that you shouldn't be the type of person that wants to use that word in a negative way?

02:17:20.000 Yes.

02:17:21.000 But are they not onto something because they forget about humor? 0.98

02:17:24.000 And one of the beautiful things about humor is you say shit you don't really mean because it's a funny thing to do. 0.97

02:17:30.000 What's funny about it is that you know someone doesn't really mean it. 1.00

02:17:34.000 Like calling your gay friend a faggot because he spilled his drink on you. 1.00

02:17:38.000 It's funny. 1.00

02:17:38.000 We would all laugh. 1.00

02:17:39.000 If we were hanging around with Justin Martindale and he spilled a drink in my lap, I wouldn't say that. 1.00

02:17:44.000 I would never call him a faggot. 0.99

02:17:45.000 But if Jamie did, because Jamie's that kind of guy. 1.00

02:17:48.000 He's from Columbus, Ohio.

02:17:49.000 That's how they are out there. 1.00

02:17:50.000 They just think of faggot Tourette's. 0.99

02:17:55.000 But, you know, if anybody has a problem with that, like, you'd either think that Jamie's really capable of being homophobic and using a slur to, like, he hates you so much that a simple act of lack of coordination and an accidental spilt beverage leads to this fucking unleashing of these horrible phrases at you. 0.99

02:18:17.000 Well, it's like, you know, you're a parent and when you have a kid and if they do something like they fall down and they kind of bump their knee or something, if you go, oh my God, what did you do?

02:18:27.000 Are you okay?

02:18:28.000 They're going to think their injury is way fucking worse. 0.94

02:18:31.000 They're going to freak out like, oh my God, you're freaked out. 0.86

02:18:34.000 My belief detector is saying that you believe something terrible is happening.

02:18:37.000 So something terrible is happening.

02:18:39.000 Whereas if you're like, you're all right, get up.

02:18:40.000 It's all good.

02:18:41.000 You know, dust it off.

02:18:42.000 They'll be like, oh, okay.

02:18:44.000 Maybe they'll cry a little bit, but they'll feel okay about it. 1.00

02:18:47.000 And what we're doing in society is we're saying, oh my god, he said faggot, oh my god. 0.99

02:18:51.000 It's telling that person that we believe that this is really hurting you, so it's actually causing the antithesis of what the goal is. 1.00

02:18:59.000 Where it should be saying, say whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

02:19:02.000 It doesn't fucking matter. 0.99

02:19:03.000 You know, you shouldn't be the kind of person that's saying it maliciously. 0.98

02:19:05.000 Yes.

02:19:06.000 You know, and that's the other part of what we've been talking about.

02:19:08.000 But if no matter what is said, it doesn't matter. 0.99

02:19:11.000 You're a human being and your psyche is made of diamonds and the world is full of fucking pillows. 0.99

02:19:16.000 Like, that's it. 1.00

02:19:18.000 Whoa.

02:19:18.000 Strong words.

02:19:20.000 I see their point.

02:19:22.000 I see wanting to never be around someone who drops M-bombs, you know, and wanting to not be around someone who's prejudiced against someone.

02:19:30.000 Sure, because it's the consciousness that's the problem.

02:19:33.000 It's not the words.

02:19:34.000 We're looking too downstream. 0.99

02:19:36.000 We're trying to look at these downstream effects, but really the problem there is you're with an unconscious person who fails to see the platinum rule, which is we're all the same fucking person. 0.89

02:19:45.000 Yeah, and the real attention should be focused on enhancing our understanding of each other, enhancing our understanding of our true connectivity, and not of demonizing the noises that you make out of your face. 0.90

02:20:00.000 Totally. 0.91

02:20:01.000 That's silly thinking. 0.94

02:20:02.000 It's like short-sighted thinking. 0.90

02:20:04.000 It's like, I appreciate your horror in the expression of racism, but I just think that the best way to approach it is to, first of all, lead by example, be someone who you would want to imitate.

02:20:18.000 Be someone who you'd want to imitate.

02:20:20.000 It's a great way to overcome a lot of things as far as the way people interact with you.

02:20:28.000 Everyone who interacts with anybody is always influenced by someone's success or failure.

02:20:33.000 I mean, I never did coke because I was around people who did coke and their lives fell apart.

02:20:37.000 I was like, whoa, keep away from coke. 0.98

02:20:39.000 But I've been around people who are really hard workers and really disciplined, and I get excited by them.

02:20:43.000 I get stimulated.

02:20:45.000 And I think we're entirely...

02:20:49.000 We're way more way more dependent upon the atmosphere of others and the the the Inspiration of others than we like to pretend we're way more way more and I think that One of the bad things about short-sighted,

02:21:06.000 black and white issues, and I don't mean black and white in a literal sense, I mean as far as someone never using a word.

02:21:13.000 You can never use that word.

02:21:15.000 It's like, well, the human mind is capable of a lot of different subtleties and variations, and when you're talking about language especially, you're dealing with a lot of subtlety.

02:21:24.000 You're dealing with some really funny things that go on with people, and some of those funny things make personalities exciting. 0.95

02:21:30.000 Like, Neil Brennan had this fucking hilarious joke.

02:21:32.000 Where he used to do this thing all the time with his friends in New York. 0.97

02:21:37.000 Where he would go, what's going on with the weather today?

02:21:41.000 And they'd go, oh man, it's snow. 1.00

02:21:43.000 And he'd go, fucking niggers. 1.00

02:21:47.000 If anybody knows Neil Brennan, he's like one of the least racist human beings you'll ever meet in your life. 1.00

02:21:52.000 I mean, he has a podcast that's all about interviewing successful black people.

02:21:56.000 Him and Moshe Kasher have that podcast, The Champs, where almost all of it is like successful black artists, successful black athletes.

02:22:03.000 Like, he's not racist in the least. 0.84

02:22:05.000 He might hate white people.

02:22:07.000 You know, but he's funny, you know, and that's what funny people do when you know they're not racist, and it's hilarious.

02:22:13.000 You know, you laugh because you know him, and you know me, and it's like, it's funny. 0.92

02:22:17.000 You know, he was the fucking co-creator of The Chappelle Show. 0.95

02:22:20.000 I mean, he's not racist. 0.98

02:22:21.000 Well, he's just pointing out, and that's what a lot of humor does.

02:22:24.000 It points out things that we're not aware of.

02:22:26.000 Like, this is how ridiculous some of the scapegoatism that we use. 0.97

02:22:30.000 Oh, it's because, and people have used, oh, it's the It's the Blacks. 0.99

02:22:33.000 It's blah blah blah. 1.00

02:22:33.000 It shows how ridiculous. 1.00

02:22:35.000 The snow is completely unrelated. 0.68

02:22:37.000 And so that's why it's funny.

02:22:38.000 It's like, it's funny because that's happened before.

02:22:41.000 All the time.

02:22:41.000 Right.

02:22:42.000 It's obviously a huge exaggeration of an idiot. 1.00

02:22:45.000 But it's hilarious. 1.00

02:22:47.000 But that's the problem with eliminating words.

02:22:50.000 You know, you eliminate words.

02:22:51.000 You say he should never be able to say that?

02:22:52.000 Come on.

02:22:53.000 That moment that we just laughed.

02:22:54.000 Do I have to say the n-bomb? 1.00

02:22:57.000 You know, he said fucking n-bombs. 0.99

02:22:58.000 Like, come on, really? 0.99

02:22:59.000 Is that what we're doing? 0.96

02:23:00.000 That's silly. 0.98

02:23:01.000 That's silly. 0.94

02:23:02.000 It's intent is the most critical aspect of human beings communicating with each other.

02:23:08.000 What are you trying to get through?

02:23:09.000 What is your intent?

02:23:10.000 What are you trying to say?

02:23:11.000 Like, oftentimes, like, you'll hear people speak in political terms or in very measured terms, and instead of making you feel calm, it actually makes you uneasy. 0.98

02:23:19.000 He's like, oh, God, I don't even know what the fuck this guy really feels. 0.83

02:23:22.000 Like, I'm getting this PC or this, uh, um, um, uh, I'm not getting the true emotion. 0.98

02:23:38.000 The fact that we have to judge our politicians based on these really practice staged events rather than real adversity, you know, like that's where we should be able to judge our politicians. 0.99

02:23:48.000 What happens when they're rolling for two hours and they're getting their ass kicked? 0.99

02:23:52.000 How do they respond after that? 0.99

02:23:53.000 What happens when they do a psychedelic?

02:23:55.000 What happens when they do this thing?

02:23:57.000 That's how we should judge the character, the people who are leading.

02:24:00.000 And back when these politicians emerged from amongst the people, they emerged because people understood that. 0.99

02:24:06.000 Like, that's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

02:24:07.000 He can handle it. 1.00

02:24:08.000 If shit goes wrong, you know, I'm going to his house. 0.96

02:24:11.000 And that guy was the leader back then, but now it's not. 0.99

02:24:14.000 Yeah, now it's just who's better at those fake speeches.

02:24:17.000 It's hilarious.

02:24:18.000 I think, you know, we almost harp on psychedelics too much.

02:24:21.000 But that's because we've done them.

02:24:23.000 That's the problem. 1.00

02:24:24.000 People who haven't done them are like, these guys are idiots. 1.00

02:24:26.000 They're just talking about, oh yeah, drugs are the solution. 1.00

02:24:30.000 It's a goddamn shortcut. 0.99

02:24:32.000 I'll tell you that. 1.00

02:24:32.000 That's exactly right. 1.00

02:24:33.000 It's a goddamn giant shortcut. 0.94

02:24:35.000 But I think that if we did have some sort of an experience, even if it's just a physical trial, like if you had to watch them go through a mud race together, how would they push each other away? 1.00

02:24:47.000 Do they concentrate on their own performance?

02:24:49.000 Do they try to hold people down?

02:24:50.000 Like, look, look, look, Al Gore's grabbing his shoelaces.

02:24:53.000 He's untying the guy's shoes.

02:24:54.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:54.000 Like, if you saw them, you saw their character emerge.

02:24:58.000 Character under adversity.

02:24:58.000 Some form of it.

02:25:00.000 Some form of competition.

02:25:01.000 You know, it would be fascinating to see how these guys performed.

02:25:06.000 You know, I think when you hear, like, Bill Clinton, who I think is a very intelligent guy, says he...

02:25:14.000 He would do these talks where he would talk about the difference between what the Democrats have done and the Republicans have done.

02:25:19.000 And it was very, like, team-based.

02:25:21.000 We did this, we did this, we did that, we did...

02:25:24.000 They haven't been able to do it since.

02:25:25.000 It's like, us and them and they and us.

02:25:28.000 And he, like, constantly talks about this team thing that's going on.

02:25:32.000 You realize, like, he's in this weird competition with these people.

02:25:35.000 You know like this is like he's like gloating and you know he's looking at the scoreboard.

02:25:40.000 We're number one!

02:25:41.000 We're number one!

02:25:42.000 I mean that's essentially what you're doing and if you want to get elected in this country and under especially those conditions back then maybe not as much now but you know it's kind of morphing in some weird place now.

02:25:54.000 That's what you had to do.

02:25:55.000 You had to have that mindset.

02:25:56.000 So that was the game.

02:25:58.000 The game's not that anymore.

02:25:59.000 No. 0.99

02:26:00.000 The game is the goddamn internet. 0.99

02:26:01.000 The internet is the portal of consciousness, the portal of information. 0.99

02:26:05.000 It's the portal of connectivity in a way that just didn't exist before. 0.99

02:26:09.000 So these fucking guys are there, my fellow Americans. 0.99

02:26:12.000 Like, come on, man. 1.00

02:26:13.000 Like, that shit is not gonna keep flying. 0.99

02:26:16.000 There's gonna come a point in time where we wanna watch you go to the jungle. 1.00

02:26:20.000 How do you deal with mosquitoes when you're high as fuck? 0.99

02:26:23.000 I want to see what happens if you eat some mushrooms and sit in a quiet room by yourself. 1.00

02:26:28.000 I want to see what goes on in your mind when you eat a pot cookie and you think you're going to die and then you climb into an isolation tank. 1.00

02:26:34.000 I want to know what the fuck goes on in there, man. 1.00

02:26:37.000 What kind of thoughts about your high school did you have? 0.99

02:26:40.000 How do you feel about yourself now?

02:26:41.000 Are you happy with the momentum that you've created? 0.99

02:26:44.000 Would you like to trim back some of these fucking roads that you've got? 0.99

02:26:48.000 Travel on. 0.99

02:26:49.000 What would you like to do?

02:26:51.000 Do you know who you are right now or are you a product of the momentum of your past?

02:26:57.000 And I'm not sure.

02:26:58.000 It's hard to tell.

02:26:59.000 You gotta see someone struggle.

02:27:01.000 You gotta see them.

02:27:03.000 That's the key.

02:27:04.000 30 seconds!

02:27:05.000 30 seconds!

02:27:06.000 Keep going!

02:27:09.000 Okay, my feet hurt. 0.99

02:27:10.000 I got some gout, something wrong with my balls. 0.76

02:27:13.000 You know like you're gonna see you're gonna see who they really are other than that that nice person in that nice suit with the perfect smile Yeah, and I think that's the direction that things are going, you know, and I'm encouraged by that I think you know the internet's already gotten rid of a lot of the hypocrisy because things get found out You know, 0.90

02:27:30.000 the transparency has increased, but as consciousness increases, I think the demand for a conscious leader will become overwhelming.

02:27:38.000 And only when the demand for a conscious leader is there will one emerge and actually succeed.

02:27:44.000 So, you know, instead of focusing on the politicians, let's just focus on raising consciousness everywhere so that the demand is so high that one will emerge to meet that demand.

02:27:54.000 It's also we're in a situation where as far as education goes, as far as the roads, as far as like food, food comes in, we're dealing with like these structures that are already there.

02:28:07.000 They're already there and people seek to improve them. 0.87

02:28:09.000 They seek to improve the prison structures and the jail sentencing, you know, all the different bullshit that people hate about police brutality. 0.67

02:28:17.000 They seek to improve those structures. 0.92

02:28:19.000 Instead of like trying a new one, like from scratch, And that's what I think, like, when you see something like Waco, Texas, Waco's obviously a bad idea, what they did at the Vidian Complex, they stocked up weapons, they were shooting at the feds, some wild Texans running a cult, 0.92

02:28:35.000 the guy was banging everybody's wife, allegedly.

02:28:37.000 You know, that's how it goes when it goes wrong.

02:28:40.000 But the idea of creating a community, like organizing and engineering a community with resources, including security, is a dangerous thought.

02:28:49.000 Like, people go, hey, hey, what you trying to do?

02:28:51.000 You trying to start your own army? 0.98

02:28:53.000 No, we just have guns in case somebody fucks with us. 0.93

02:28:55.000 Oh, that sounds like an army to me. 0.76

02:28:57.000 Well, aren't we allowed to defend ourselves individually?

02:29:01.000 Individually, you can have your own weapon that you can use as a home security device.

02:29:04.000 But what you can't do is get together with others and patrol your neighborhood as a home security patrol.

02:29:10.000 And then a home security- we have a neighborhood patrol- we decided to have a citywide security team.

02:29:14.000 That sounds like an army boy.

02:29:16.000 Well, we do have bulletproof tanks and laser beams, but it's just to kill bad guys. 1.00

02:29:20.000 Like, no, no, no, no, no, that's our job, you fuck! 1.00

02:29:22.000 You're getting in on the government's territory! 1.00

02:29:24.000 And then they'll come down, the feds will fucking jackbooted thugs, kick in your door, flamethrower your kids, and start from scratch. 0.99

02:29:31.000 Like, look, we told you. 0.99

02:29:31.000 No compounds. 0.99

02:29:33.000 No high fences.

02:29:34.000 No more than 30 people with guns that live under one roof.

02:29:37.000 You just can't do it.

02:29:39.000 It's a fascinating idea, but I think that you're going to see...

02:29:42.000 There's a town in Texas that I talked about this the other day, and people actually got upset about it, that I talked about it.

02:29:47.000 They fired the cops in 2012, hired a private company to patrol the streets.

02:29:53.000 Crime went down by 61%.

02:29:54.000 The cops have no financial vested interest in writing tickets.

02:30:00.000 They don't have quotas that they have to meet, so they don't harass people nearly as much.

02:30:05.000 And they actually patrol areas where there's crime, and that reduces crime.

02:30:08.000 Go figure.

02:30:09.000 And people are like, hey man, it sounds like what you're talking about is fascists, and what you're talking about is private police and security teams.

02:30:14.000 They're gonna be FEMA camps everywhere. 0.95

02:30:17.000 Or, they're like every other business, and they become accountable for their actions in a way where you fire them.

02:30:25.000 And you hire a new team.

02:30:27.000 You know, you just don't get locked into any ridiculous 30-year agreement with some police department.

02:30:32.000 Instead, like, have a security team that is beneficial to the community.

02:30:37.000 And people can maybe be a part of that security team that are in the community.

02:30:41.000 That would be crazy, huh?

02:30:43.000 Have actually people in the community patrolling the community and getting paid by the community to do that. 0.96

02:30:47.000 A lot of unemployed people that might make good cops and you could do all this shit in a way where it's profitable without having all these goddamn quotas that these people have to meet and these weird pressures that are on people that are in law enforcement. 0.77

02:31:00.000 The more we can decentralize the structures, you know, go from federal rules to state rules. 0.96

02:31:05.000 We've already seen the benefits of that in a state like Colorado, when they're able to make their own rules, you know?

02:31:10.000 That's great.

02:31:11.000 And then from there, if you go back even to where the towns can decide, you know, what the town should do.

02:31:16.000 And the smaller you get, the more opportunity you have for these great situations to develop.

02:31:21.000 And I think one of the paradigm cases, I read this book called The Fifth Sacred Thing, and it shows what happens when a utopian society clashes with the dystopian society.

02:31:30.000 It's a fiction novel.

02:31:32.000 But the really cool part is seeing what the utopian structure looks like.

02:31:37.000 Like, what a model of a totally cool place to live.

02:31:40.000 Would be, if everything from the family structure to the rules to how they decide things to how they defend themselves to how everything works, what they celebrate, what the rituals are amongst that.

02:31:50.000 And it's cool to be able to look at that and say, you know, that's possible.

02:31:54.000 We just have to allow, you know, people to gather and create their own situation if they want to. 0.95

02:32:00.000 It doesn't always have to go where the owner, it's all top-down and the owner fucks all the teenage girls. 1.00

02:32:05.000 Just because that's happened time and time again doesn't mean that it has to happen that way.

02:32:10.000 I think it's likely to happen less now that it's ever happened before, and I also don't think that it has to be centrally located, and I think that one of the things that we're experiencing with this exchange of information on the internet is you're finding a lot of like-minded people that are also trying to improve themselves.

02:32:25.000 They're also being super honest about who they are, who they were, trying to improve themselves, and they get inspiration from other people like you or like anybody else that's out there that is also on that same path of self-improvement and honesty.

02:32:35.000 And I think we find each other cyberly.

02:32:37.000 I think we don't even necessarily have to live on Uriah Faber's block.

02:32:41.000 I think what he's got is pretty sweet.

02:32:43.000 That's probably the ideal way to do it, but if it's not available, it's also happening whether you like it or not.

02:32:47.000 It's happening throughout the world.

02:32:49.000 I experience that at these shows, these stand-up shows.

02:32:53.000 You meet these people that are, dude, I lost 150 pounds.

02:32:55.000 Like, whoa.

02:32:56.000 And you're like, Changed my life.

02:32:57.000 I started doing this.

02:32:58.000 I started doing that.

02:32:58.000 I eat kale.

02:32:59.000 I fucking... 1.00

02:32:59.000 I got a kettlebell in my back pocket. 1.00

02:33:02.000 You meet these fucking people and you realize there's a lot of folks out there that are also trying to... 0.99

02:33:08.000 They're trying to better themselves and they're trying to tune into that vibe. 1.00

02:33:13.000 And they're finding other people like that online that are trying to tune into that vibe of, we're all figuring this out, man.

02:33:19.000 No one's perfect.

02:33:21.000 No one's got a lock on this crazy life. 0.97

02:33:23.000 Spend less time pointing fingers at other people and shaming them for making a fat joke, and more time getting your own shit together, and we'll have a way better spot to hang out in. 0.96

02:33:33.000 We will all have a way better spot across the globe. 0.97

02:33:36.000 And I think that's happening, man.

02:33:38.000 People say I'm too optimistic.

02:33:40.000 But, man, I don't know.

02:33:40.000 I see it.

02:33:41.000 I see it in action.

02:33:42.000 I see it at these shows.

02:33:44.000 I see it all the time.

02:33:45.000 I agree.

02:33:45.000 What's happening that I see is you have your nuclear tribe, those 15 people you say that you could give them a million dollars and never even blink an eye.

02:33:52.000 You wouldn't even get nervous about it, you know?

02:33:55.000 And so when you start to develop these nuclear tribes and then getting gatherings together, You know, I think is another important thing. 0.68

02:34:01.000 Like say, hey, everybody, let's all meet for these five days and hang out and have fun.

02:34:07.000 And I think that'll be a cool aspect of consciously bringing into that.

02:34:10.000 But then you have like the mega tribe beyond the nuclear tribe. 0.83

02:34:13.000 And that's like all the people listening to the show where, you know, they're sharing a certain sentiment.

02:34:18.000 So it's not like you're total strangers when you meet.

02:34:22.000 There's a part of you that's already connected.

02:34:24.000 And you see that at Burning Man.

02:34:25.000 The mere fact that they're at Burning Man means that they subscribe to a certain amount of beliefs, generally.

02:34:31.000 Of course, there's probably some outliers.

02:34:33.000 But generally, you can meet someone there and know, like, all right, you're going to be cool with me. 0.99

02:34:38.000 You're not going to call me a dick. 0.99

02:34:40.000 Hopefully. 0.99

02:34:41.000 You got them in a bad patch of Burning Man, rogue community of dirty sandals. 1.00

02:34:47.000 But they would feel themselves, you know, they would feel weird in that because the whole collective would end up trying to force them out, like pus in the skin. 0.98

02:34:55.000 It would become a pimple that would eventually pop and bail the fuck out of there, you know? 1.00

02:34:59.000 The collective organism would reject it.

02:35:02.000 Yeah, and I think the things like Burning Man and the growth of that, which is so big, it gets sold out every year, like, in advance.

02:35:09.000 Yeah.

02:35:09.000 It's like it's letting...

02:35:10.000 There's a giant community of people that also would like to go to Burning Man, but can't make it there.

02:35:15.000 Yeah.

02:35:15.000 You know, they might have obligations or family or whatever they have to do, but they want to go there.

02:35:20.000 But certain... 0.94

02:35:20.000 Like, it's not Mecca, goddammit. 0.94

02:35:22.000 I don't have to fucking go around that square and touch it in a row. 0.99

02:35:26.000 It's a nowhere place in the desert. 0.98

02:35:28.000 It's literally nothing there.

02:35:29.000 Well, that's why... 0.99

02:35:30.000 It's a good spot to go because nobody fucks with you. 0.96

02:35:33.000 But really, it'd be way better if we did it in Hawaii, folks. 0.99

02:35:37.000 Let's fucking all go to Maui, man. 0.98

02:35:39.000 Maui's way better than the desert. 0.99

02:35:41.000 Yeah, totally.

02:35:42.000 You know, but they would get mad. 1.00

02:35:43.000 Dirty hippies. 0.98

02:35:44.000 You gotta wear dust masks when you're out there. 0.98

02:35:46.000 But I think the point you're making is take your 15 people and have your own little Burning Man where you all bring stuff.

02:35:52.000 You all share stuff.

02:35:53.000 You don't worry about who's paying for what.

02:35:55.000 Everybody's contributing.

02:35:56.000 You're all hanging out.

02:35:57.000 And experience that together in your own way.

02:35:59.000 You don't need to go to Black Rock, Nevada.

02:36:01.000 To do that. 0.99

02:36:02.000 You can go to, you know, the fucking camping somewhere out and just put up some tents and just hang, you know? 0.98

02:36:08.000 Yeah, but what Burning Man seems to be is like a bat signal. 0.99

02:36:11.000 Someone throws up and they all meet there.

02:36:13.000 Right.

02:36:13.000 It's the super tribe meeting.

02:36:15.000 It's what the Aborigines did at Uluru at Ayers Rock. 1.00

02:36:17.000 You know, like every once in a while you go to this one fucking spot and it's five days of crazy dream time and didgeridoos echoing through the whole place and it's a celebration and then you go back to your smaller units. 0.96

02:36:31.000 Let your freak flag fly. 0.99

02:36:33.000 Yeah!

02:36:33.000 How about we do this?

02:36:35.000 How about we...

02:36:36.000 I've been thinking about this, and you've been thinking about this too, about us getting a ranch in Texas.

02:36:42.000 If we got a ranch in Texas, okay?

02:36:44.000 If we got like a...

02:36:46.000 A hunting ranch in Texas that we also had yearly psychedelic rituals.

02:36:52.000 First of all, how quick would we get co-opted by the feds? 0.99

02:36:57.000 There's a fucking desk just got assigned to it right now. 0.99

02:37:00.000 McCarthy, you're on this! 1.00

02:37:02.000 Listen to this fucking Ustream channel, these fucking hippies! 1.00

02:37:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:37:07.000 You do that, like, you know, have like a virgin, a version, rather, of Burning Man at a ranch in Texas.

02:37:15.000 Sure.

02:37:15.000 I mean, it's definitely feasible.

02:37:18.000 Screen people, though.

02:37:19.000 You've got to hire Anonymous to crawl up their house. 0.99

02:37:22.000 LAUGHTER Get those folks from the black internet. 1.00

02:37:28.000 Is that what it's called? 0.58

02:37:29.000 The dark internet?

02:37:29.000 Sorry.

02:37:30.000 Well, if we just picked a spot, it doesn't even have to be a place that we own, so there's no liability.

02:37:34.000 That's a good move.

02:37:35.000 If we just pick a spot somewhere and we say, hey, all people who liked what we were just talking about, let's meet at this general area for these four days and then, you know, see how it goes. 0.99

02:37:48.000 But we've got to be somewhere where you can be high as fuck and not be in danger. 0.98

02:37:51.000 That's why the The desert's good, because there's nothing out there. 0.99

02:37:54.000 You can't go wandering off in the woods and get eaten by a bear.

02:37:56.000 Like, if we did it in Alberta, we started losing hippies.

02:38:00.000 We started getting bared out there.

02:38:03.000 Did you hear something?

02:38:04.000 Dude, it's a drum circle.

02:38:05.000 Don't worry about it. 0.99

02:38:07.000 I think one of them is called Envision, and it's in Costa Rica in this beautiful fucking place. 0.92

02:38:11.000 I mean, there's places around the world that we could pick that are cool with stuff. 0.96

02:38:16.000 I mean, Costa Rica is cool with ayahuasca, with iboga. 0.99

02:38:18.000 They're not going to fuck with you too much. 1.00

02:38:20.000 Traveling to other countries is fucking problematic. 1.00

02:38:23.000 If the shit hits the fan, you got to get back to the good old U.S. of A. with the quickness. 1.00

02:38:28.000 America! 1.00

02:38:28.000 As that plane is, fuck all that star-spangled banner shit, you'd be very happy to Pledge of Allegiance once that plane was leaving, and you hear guns go off behind your plane in Costa Rica. 1.00

02:38:38.000 You realize, right as the insurgency takes over the new government, Take care. 1.00

02:38:45.000 Good luck with the ayahuasca retreat.

02:38:48.000 I'm gonna go to Miami for a weekend and drink on the beach.

02:38:52.000 There's good and bad and all this stuff, ladies and gentlemen.

02:38:56.000 I think people are getting it together, though.

02:38:58.000 I really do.

02:38:58.000 I agree.

02:38:59.000 I feel it.

02:39:00.000 I might be delusional.

02:39:01.000 But I think at least the people that I'm in contact with, They're getting it and they're there.

02:39:07.000 I feel like they're spreading and when I say getting it or you think you get it what I mean by that is this idea of Everybody trying to improve themselves and people just kind of being cool with each other.

02:39:18.000 Yeah, and people being honest about All their attributes, the positives, the negatives, all that stuff.

02:39:25.000 And working it out together, man.

02:39:27.000 And part of getting it is knowing that you know nothing, really.

02:39:30.000 It's just accepting the fact that we know incrementally less nothing, and sometimes maybe even more nothing, because the expanse of what is possible to know increases. 0.74

02:39:39.000 And just understanding that we're just trying to figure it out to the best fucking way that we can. 0.90

02:39:45.000 That's it. 0.99

02:39:46.000 When I was young and stupid, I was very insecure about things I didn't know. 0.99

02:39:50.000 I wanted to pretend I knew things that I didn't know. 0.99

02:39:52.000 Like, yeah, I know that.

02:39:55.000 Somebody would bring up something and be like, I know that.

02:39:57.000 But I felt like somehow or another there's some weakness in saying, like, what is that?

02:40:03.000 You know?

02:40:04.000 Yeah.

02:40:04.000 Which is like, I love to do that now.

02:40:06.000 Like, my favorite thing to do, like, I don't need to know.

02:40:08.000 First of all, now I'm smart enough, or at least I've accumulated enough information to know.

02:40:13.000 You can't know everything. 0.96

02:40:14.000 Like, that's why I love when I talk to someone like Brian Cox, who's this genius fucking scientist dude who works at the Large Hadron Collider and teaches fucking science to the whole world. 0.97

02:40:24.000 If you ask him something he doesn't know, he goes, I don't know. 0.98

02:40:27.000 I don't know about that.

02:40:28.000 Like, oh great.

02:40:29.000 I love that. 1.00

02:40:30.000 That's fucking giant. 0.98

02:40:31.000 That's important because one of the things that plagues human beings in their development is this lack of admitting to failure, this lack of admitting to not knowing something, this fear of your own ignorance and denial of it to the point where you're posturing in front of other people. 0.99

02:40:49.000 That's all eliminated by pot cookies. 1.00

02:40:51.000 You can get rid of all that shit. 0.99

02:40:55.000 Well, having something to defend because, again, it's this illusion of vulnerability. 1.00

02:40:59.000 I need to defend these beliefs because if I don't have them, what am I? What am I without being right?

02:41:04.000 Do I love myself if I'm not the smartest person in the room? 0.99

02:41:08.000 Well, you got to let all that shit go. 0.97

02:41:10.000 You know, and you gotta build your foundation on the rocks instead of these sandcastles, because that'll never fulfill you. 0.99

02:41:16.000 If driving around in a certain car makes you feel good, or if being right and belittling people on the internet makes you feel good, it'll never actually work long-term to make you feel good.

02:41:26.000 It'll be this hole that the more you throw in it, the bigger the hole gets.

02:41:30.000 You know, you gotta find your own internal ways to feel that good and to feel that way.

02:41:35.000 Everything else is just a sidetrack that's taking you backwards.

02:41:39.000 Yeah, and it goes back to what we were talking about where people just automatically look to get in disagreements with people if they feel that they're on a different team, you know?

02:41:47.000 People that are on a different idea.

02:41:49.000 I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles used to beat the fuck out of people so bad at their games. 0.99

02:41:54.000 Like, they broke some guy's leg in a fucking stairwell because he was a fan of the other team. 0.98

02:41:58.000 Like, that type, I mean, that's not that tribal issue, you know, you're talking about like preying on the worst aspects of tribalism. 0.97

02:42:08.000 That's something that needs to be addressed in schools.

02:42:11.000 We need to explain.

02:42:12.000 These are why you have these weird instincts to be in teams and to form gangs.

02:42:16.000 Because you really used to have to do that to stay alive.

02:42:19.000 Right.

02:42:19.000 But now we don't.

02:42:21.000 We don't have to do that shit anymore. 1.00

02:42:22.000 No. 1.00

02:42:23.000 Alright, fuckers. 1.00

02:42:24.000 We've reached the end. 1.00

02:42:26.000 This is Three Hours of Love with Aubrey Marcus and Joe Rogan.

02:42:30.000 We have nothing more to tell you.

02:42:32.000 We hope you enjoyed this.

02:42:35.000 We have an On It podcast that you can listen to.

02:42:37.000 Do you have your own podcast as well, too?

02:42:39.000 I do, yeah.

02:42:39.000 You have the Warrior Poet Project, and you have the On It podcast, which are separate, completely separate.

02:42:44.000 I go a little deeper into the kind of spiritual, psychedelic realms on my own.

02:42:48.000 The woo.

02:42:49.000 And then Onnit is about just improving human performance, human optimization. 1.00

02:42:54.000 That's it, you fucks. 0.99

02:42:55.000 Onnit.com. 1.00

02:42:56.000 O-N-N-I-T. Go there, enjoy, read up. 0.96

02:43:00.000 And if you're in Austin, Texas, there is an actual Onnit gym now that's open and it is fucking spectacular. 0.99

02:43:07.000 State-of-the-art, super dope, full cryotherapy equipment in the fucking house. 0.97

02:43:12.000 Tell people about that and how do they get to that. 0.99

02:43:14.000 And I actually work there.

02:43:15.000 It's so funny.

02:43:16.000 People come and they're like, Aubrey, you're here. 0.99

02:43:18.000 Well, no shit, I'm here. 0.98

02:43:19.000 I work. 0.98

02:43:21.000 You know, so if you go by, say hello.

02:43:23.000 You know, I'll be there.

02:43:24.000 I'll be happy to say hello to you.

02:43:25.000 Onnit.com.

02:43:26.000 O-N-N-I-T. All right. 1.00

02:43:27.000 We'll see you guys next week.

02:43:29.000 Lots of funny guests coming up next week.

02:43:31.000 And until then, much love.

02:43:33.000 Take care.

02:43:33.000 Much love, everybody.

02:43:34.000 Peace.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 07, 2015

Joe Rogan Experience #621 - Aubrey Marcus

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