The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #630 - Duncan Trussell

00:00:04.000 The Joe Rogan Experience.

00:00:10.000 All day! 0.99

00:00:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, it's Duncan motherfucking Trussell. 0.99

00:00:17.000 Hello! 0.99

00:00:18.000 AKA Super Hippie.

00:00:21.000 Hello!

00:00:21.000 What's up, brother?

00:00:22.000 What's going on?

00:00:23.000 What's going on, my friend?

00:00:24.000 What happened to the commercials? 1.00

00:00:26.000 Uh, fuck those things, dude. 1.00

00:00:27.000 Add those bitches in later. 1.00

00:00:28.000 Ah! 1.00

00:00:29.000 I realized somewhere along the line that it's all about The flow of the conversation.

00:00:34.000 That's what makes a podcast interesting to me.

00:00:36.000 If I'm listening to a cool podcast, I want the flow of the conversation to be as natural as possible.

00:00:41.000 Yes.

00:00:41.000 I think even starting with the music, probably should stop doing that.

00:00:44.000 We'll add that shit in post. 0.99

00:00:46.000 Right. 1.00

00:00:47.000 You know, the flow of the conversation is what's up.

00:00:49.000 And the best way to get the flow of the conversation right is just kind of get into it.

00:00:54.000 Right.

00:00:56.000 Yeah, I think that's right.

00:00:57.000 I do my commercials later.

00:00:58.000 I just sit down with the people and start talking.

00:01:00.000 If you do a commercial first, you've killed the vibe.

00:01:02.000 Like, for like five minutes, more even.

00:01:04.000 Yeah.

00:01:05.000 I've been guests on people's shows where they do it, too, and I don't want to do it.

00:01:08.000 You know, you don't want to sit there where someone's reading off their commercials, even if they're really good at it.

00:01:12.000 Also, yeah, I mean, that's kind of the problem, is that it forces you to do like a read-read when someone's there, because you want to get it done with, and then that makes you sound like a robot.

00:01:20.000 And it's much more interesting to talk about...

00:01:22.000 If you're using it or not.

00:01:24.000 What is it?

00:01:25.000 Because a lot of the people advertising on podcasts, it's some weird stuff, man.

00:01:29.000 It's like brand new, strange technologies that are new.

00:01:34.000 It's all internet-based businesses.

00:01:36.000 There's a lot of that, sure.

00:01:37.000 And a lot of those are cool.

00:01:39.000 Squarespace, that kind of stuff.

00:01:40.000 Yeah!

00:01:41.000 Yeah, it's disruptive in this very mild way.

00:01:43.000 You find that stuff is disrupting the most annoying technologies.

00:01:50.000 Taxis got disrupted by Uber.

00:01:53.000 And if you consider the experience of a taxi versus an Uber, no offense to taxi drivers out there.

00:01:58.000 I'm sorry you guys are...

00:02:00.000 I don't want anybody to be out of work or anything.

00:02:02.000 But man, the difference is so profound that there's no competition.

00:02:07.000 Taxis are like... 0.99

00:02:09.000 You know, they've got that fucking TV in the back where it's commercials are like blaring into your face the whole time. 0.97

00:02:15.000 And you're just sort of like, you feel like you're in a traveling prison because they've got the plexiglass in between you and the driver. 0.98

00:02:23.000 Because we live in such a crazy dimension where people who drive other people around have to treat them like pythons or something and put them behind glass just because that one guy with the ice pick.

00:02:34.000 Well, do you know how many people...

00:02:35.000 It's not that one guy with the ice pack.

00:02:37.000 Do you know what happened in New York City one year?

00:02:40.000 No.

00:02:41.000 They killed some insane number of gypsy cab drivers. 1.00

00:02:45.000 I think what a gypsy cab driver, what they call a gypsy cab driver, is someone who's working kind of without... 1.00

00:02:50.000 It was like pre-Uber.

00:02:51.000 It was like they were working without a license or they're working with some shenanigans were involved. 0.99

00:02:57.000 And they would take these guys to bad neighborhoods and shoot them in the back of the head. 0.98

00:03:02.000 And they shot a bunch of them. 0.99

00:03:03.000 They shot a bunch of them. 0.96

00:03:05.000 Criminals.

00:03:05.000 It was like something they did to rob people.

00:03:08.000 They'd take these gypsy cab drivers deep into New York City somewhere like Brownsville or somewhere like that. 1.00

00:03:14.000 Shoot them in the back of the head and then dump their cap. 0.99

00:03:18.000 Dude, it was crazy. 1.00

00:03:19.000 Like it happened a lot.

00:03:21.000 There was a, I forget what year it was, but they had no idea how many like people were involved.

00:03:27.000 They didn't know who was getting, this is pre-internet.

00:03:29.000 Did they ever catch the guy?

00:03:30.000 I don't know.

00:03:31.000 I wish I knew that answer.

00:03:32.000 So this is some kind of serial killer, some kind of... 0.97

00:03:35.000 It was either a serial killer or a practice of robbing people and shooting them in the head. 0.66

00:03:41.000 How hungry are you? 0.99

00:03:43.000 You have to be so hungry to decide that you're going to get in a cab and go through the trouble of blasting someone in the back of the head.

00:03:51.000 How much money are they going to have maximum in a cab? 0.99

00:03:54.000 How much would they have?

00:03:56.000 You know, I mean a few hundred bucks, who knows?

00:03:58.000 A thousand maximum?

00:04:00.000 Who knows, man? 1.00

00:04:01.000 It's just hard to believe that it could be a million and someone would just shoot someone in the fucking head. 1.00

00:04:06.000 You know, it's weird when you get to a certain number and people go, oh, I got it. 1.00

00:04:11.000 You know, if someone kills someone for a million bucks, like, oh, that was a million dollars.

00:04:15.000 It was probably really tempting.

00:04:17.000 For some people, probably. 0.94

00:04:18.000 I know, but it's ridiculous. 0.99

00:04:20.000 You shouldn't be able to kill somebody for a hundred. 0.99

00:04:22.000 You shouldn't be able to kill someone for a million. 0.97

00:04:24.000 But for whatever reason, if you say it was only for a hundred bucks, they killed them. 0.55

00:04:29.000 Yeah.

00:04:29.000 Like, somehow or another, it makes it, like, more pointless than if they killed them for a million bucks.

00:04:33.000 Well, yeah.

00:04:34.000 I mean, it really does.

00:04:36.000 It's like a Brinks truck, for example. 1.00

00:04:38.000 Like, a Brinks truck, you can kind of... 0.97

00:04:39.000 Because you're thinking, like, okay...

00:04:41.000 Desperate criminal, needs some cash. 0.53

00:04:44.000 If I'm going to kill somebody, and I think it's obviously a terrible thing to do, I want to have enough money to live on it for at least a couple of months. 0.83

00:04:54.000 Not enough to go bowling that night and that's it. 0.95

00:04:59.000 You've got to get another cab.

00:05:02.000 If you're one of those uber drivers though, I mean how much protection do they have?

00:05:06.000 The uber drivers?

00:05:07.000 Yeah, from getting robbed and things along those lines.

00:05:09.000 Is it harder because of phones, right?

00:05:11.000 Yeah, well I guess the people are being tracked, but I mean obviously the ultimate frightening scenario is someone like steals someone's phone, uses their uber app, and summons the uber, and then they're completely untraceable.

00:05:25.000 So I think that's probably a danger that the Uber drivers think about.

00:05:29.000 I'm sure they teach them, you know, what to do.

00:05:32.000 I'm sure they've been, like, tutored or there's got to be safety courses they're taking for the inevitable situation where somebody gets in there and thinks they're the reincarnation of Christ and wants to taste blood on a full moon.

00:05:46.000 I think the harder situation would be for the young women who are by themselves, who get in a car with a guy they don't know, and they don't know whether or not he's been screened properly.

00:05:59.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:06:00.000 Or faking being an Uber driver.

00:06:02.000 I mean, how hard would that be?

00:06:03.000 Pull up in front of any club and look out and be like, Uber?

00:06:07.000 Uber?

00:06:08.000 Easy.

00:06:09.000 That's so true.

00:06:11.000 I'm sure they've thought of that, too.

00:06:14.000 Yeah, well, I've had people try to get into my car accidentally because they thought it was an Uber.

00:06:19.000 We rented an Escalade.

00:06:20.000 Wow.

00:06:20.000 They opened the door.

00:06:22.000 We're like, hello.

00:06:23.000 And they're like, we're here for Uber?

00:06:26.000 I'm like, no, man, I'm not the Uber.

00:06:28.000 That's hilarious.

00:06:29.000 Yeah, man, you can get in a lot of trouble.

00:06:32.000 You can get in a lot of trouble out there in the world, man.

00:06:34.000 It's so strange to think that in this beautiful time that we're living in, and it really is a beautiful time, man.

00:06:40.000 This is an incredible time.

00:06:41.000 It's amazing.

00:06:42.000 It was so strange to think of how there are still predators existing in our ecosystem, even though I think it's much less than it used to be. 0.99

00:06:51.000 It's just a fascinating thing to think that there's people out there whose heads are just filled with psychic bees and for whatever reason they're being driven out into the streets and they do awful fucking shit. 0.98

00:07:03.000 Still, it just becomes more shocking the more technology accelerates. 0.99

00:07:09.000 Those acts of violence, they stand out more.

00:07:11.000 They seem more Barbaric. 0.95

00:07:15.000 They seem more horrific.

00:07:16.000 I mean, and that's really what's fueling like the furthest most fringe left-wing ideas That's like one of my number one problems that I have with like super progressive people is that I agree with them on almost everything but sometimes the way they go about Expressing themselves is so ridiculously over the top that they become annoying They become bad for the cause or bad for whatever idea they have But ultimately,

00:07:44.000 what are they trying to do?

00:07:45.000 They're just trying to write it all out. 0.89

00:07:47.000 It's just they're going so far and they're so ridiculous with some of the ideas that it just... 0.88

00:07:51.000 Like what? 0.85

00:07:52.000 Oh God, where would I begin?

00:07:54.000 The use of language.

00:07:56.000 It's a really important one.

00:07:57.000 You know, like the people that get like super upset at rape scenes in a movie or rape scenes on a television show.

00:08:04.000 Oh! 0.60

00:08:05.000 People that think that men and women don't have to adhere to gender specific roles.

00:08:12.000 Which I agree.

00:08:13.000 You know, you don't have to.

00:08:14.000 But to think that that's not the norm, you know, to think that in some way gender-specific roles for people aren't sort of carved out in some ways by biology...

00:08:23.000 Man, I gotta tell you, though, that is a thing that...

00:08:26.000 That idea will be an antiquated idea within 200 years, I think.

00:08:32.000 That will be the idea that you're...

00:08:34.000 Your genetic gender assignment is the gender you got to stick with will be like thinking the avatar that you pick in GTA is the avatar that you've got to run around with permanently.

00:08:46.000 Because it's going to get easier and easier to modify the body.

00:08:51.000 We have no idea.

00:08:53.000 What's coming down the tubes when it comes to the new stuff that they're learning about how to alter DNA? We have no idea what's coming down the tubes when it comes to futuristic plastic surgery and the ease of it.

00:09:06.000 We just don't know.

00:09:07.000 Oh, no doubt, man.

00:09:08.000 No doubt.

00:09:09.000 So when that happens, it's kind of like the reason this stuff seems really weird to us is because mostly we've grown up in a time where you and I, especially, have grown up in a time where the words they're using right now is not the words that they used to use.

00:09:26.000 The word tranny was not an offensive word.

00:09:29.000 People would just use it.

00:09:30.000 They didn't know.

00:09:31.000 You didn't know.

00:09:31.000 So, the general idea was, if you're growing up back in the 70s or the early 80s, it's not like everybody was a complete horrible bigot, but at least, I grew up in North Carolina, so the public opinion on transsexual people is not what you would consider to be rosy.

00:09:52.000 It's not like people are like, they deserve rights, they should get married.

00:09:55.000 Well, they were in a topic of discussion.

00:09:57.000 Weren't even a topic of discussion. 0.99

00:10:00.000 But now, you know, people are realizing, shit, man, I don't know if I have to be physically what my genetics are saying I have to be. 0.97

00:10:11.000 And so they go through the thing Bruce Jenner's going through. 0.99

00:10:15.000 They take hormone replacement therapy. 1.00

00:10:17.000 I guess they get their penis cut off and they get a vagina. 1.00

00:10:21.000 I don't think they like to have you phrase it like that. 1.00

00:10:24.000 How do you phrase it?

00:10:25.000 They get reconstructed.

00:10:27.000 Well, yeah.

00:10:28.000 Okay.

00:10:29.000 Well, that's scary.

00:10:30.000 Imagine sitting when you're in your Uber and the guy in the backseat says, do you want to get reconstructed tonight?

00:10:35.000 I honestly think that there's going to come a point in time where they're going to be able to change you into anything.

00:10:39.000 That's it.

00:10:40.000 Anything.

00:10:40.000 Male, female.

00:10:41.000 You will go back and forth from male to female. 0.97

00:10:44.000 Yeah.

00:10:44.000 I mean, it might be a thousand years from now, but it's coming.

00:10:47.000 It's coming sooner than that, at least in VR space, because of the...

00:10:51.000 Oh.

00:10:51.000 You know, I was just at this fucking crazy virtual reality gathering downtown, because I'm pals of this guy, Johnny Ross, who puts him on.

00:11:01.000 They had... 0.94

00:11:02.000 Everything there.

00:11:03.000 Everything there.

00:11:04.000 All the new high-tech stuff was there. 0.99

00:11:05.000 They had the new Valve VR prototype, which makes my Oculus Rift look like shit.

00:11:11.000 But one of the things they had, which was so incredible, was software that scans your face, And then turns that into the mask of some other thing. 0.89

00:11:21.000 So if you're playing a video game, theoretically, your face would be sort of being scanned and it would look completely different.

00:11:29.000 The expressions you were making in the real world would translate into the avatar.

00:11:34.000 And that's pretty badass, man, to be able to play an online role-playing game with avatars that are making real human facial expressions.

00:11:44.000 Not just one function of it, but Doesn't that freak you out?

00:11:48.000 I love it.

00:11:50.000 Does it give you any pause?

00:11:52.000 It used to. 0.99

00:11:53.000 Do you just go, what the fuck are we doing? 0.99

00:11:55.000 It used to. 0.99

00:11:56.000 Really?

00:11:56.000 Not anymore, man.

00:11:57.000 What happened?

00:11:58.000 I took Timothy Leary's advice.

00:12:00.000 What was it?

00:12:01.000 Lift up your legs and float downstream.

00:12:04.000 Don't worry.

00:12:06.000 Stop freaking out.

00:12:07.000 Number one, you're not stopping it.

00:12:11.000 It doesn't matter who you are.

00:12:14.000 It doesn't matter what plan you have.

00:12:17.000 You ain't stopping it.

00:12:18.000 Elon Musk could take his clothes off, climb on the top of the Empire State Building, and hold a banner that says AI is going to destroy all humanity and nobody would pay attention.

00:12:29.000 Because you're talking about something that seems to be more of a Something deeper than just human innovation.

00:12:35.000 It seems to be something like more of a kind of momentum, an inexorable momentum in the direction of us having 100% control over the way we express ourselves and the things we create and not being limited by our current meat bodies in any way at all.

00:12:54.000 That's where it's headed.

00:12:55.000 And that's just one little piece of it.

00:12:57.000 It's not going to stop.

00:12:58.000 In fact, this is the last age.

00:13:01.000 Everyone should just...

00:13:02.000 Go outside and look around and enjoy a world where people aren't wearing visors and a world where all the clouds of data surrounding you aren't being visualized in a variety of ways that have been created by programmers.

00:13:18.000 Because that's what we're looking at.

00:13:19.000 Just the entire universe animated with information in real time.

00:13:24.000 And people's faces being...

00:13:29.000 Whatever they want it to be.

00:13:30.000 People's bodies being whatever they want it to be.

00:13:32.000 I think it goes past that.

00:13:33.000 I think whatever you are as a human being, you're gonna eventually accept as being a digital form because it's gonna be more exciting than the flesh.

00:13:41.000 You're gonna get to a point where it's gonna be better.

00:13:44.000 The idea of you downloading your brain to a computer right now is horrific.

00:13:48.000 Like, oh my god, why would I want to do that?

00:13:49.000 Right.

00:13:50.000 But the idea, if they can get your, and biologists say it's impossible, but I just think it's impossible now.

00:13:56.000 But if they can get whatever your consciousness is, They can get a digital image of that.

00:14:03.000 Absolute, 3D, every molecule in exactly the right place.

00:14:08.000 Digital image of you.

00:14:09.000 And they can convert this into an artificial body and instantaneously you'll be conscious and aware.

00:14:16.000 Yeah.

00:14:17.000 That one's gonna shut off.

00:14:18.000 This one's gonna shut on.

00:14:19.000 Click, click.

00:14:20.000 Here we go, Duncan.

00:14:21.000 How are you?

00:14:22.000 Great.

00:14:22.000 Oh my god, I'm immortal.

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 You'll be a digital voice.

00:14:30.000 Yeah, you'll be a great voice.

00:14:32.000 It'll be a great voice.

00:14:33.000 What?

00:14:34.000 Yeah, it'll be great.

00:14:36.000 It's wonderful.

00:14:37.000 What's happening is wonderful, but it is scary for a lot of people.

00:14:42.000 But man, just the...

00:14:44.000 We have so many restrictions on us that are based on our biology.

00:14:49.000 Humanity has just grown to accept.

00:14:51.000 If you accept growing old, you accept whatever your particular physical disabilities or talents have to be, the idea that these could be enhanced in such profound ways With exoskeletons or with some kind of new cybernetic red blood cells.

00:15:13.000 It's crazy, but it really does mirror a video game.

00:15:16.000 You know in a video game when the character levels up and it becomes a whole new game, the game gets interesting again?

00:15:23.000 Right, right.

00:15:23.000 That's what's about to happen to our species.

00:15:25.000 Our species is about to level up.

00:15:27.000 It's about to become an entirely new thing.

00:15:31.000 And it's a few specific technologies that are all converging, that are forming this thing.

00:15:37.000 And those technologies are 3D printing, robotics and AI, the legalization of psychedelics, And psychopharmacology that's happening right now, the exploration into psychedelics,

00:15:53.000 and all forms of life extension therapy.

00:15:57.000 All of these things, they're meeting.

00:16:00.000 They're all going to meet.

00:16:01.000 They're all growing together.

00:16:02.000 They're all appendages that are growing out of this sentient Life form that seems to be, that we seem to be headed towards on our temporal spaceship that we call planet Earth.

00:16:15.000 And the appendages are sort of, right now we're beginning to see the first budding growths of them and the rudimentary VR, the rudimentary AI, or the rudimentary 3D printing.

00:16:26.000 But the idea that you can go into an artificial, into a virtual space created by an artificial intelligence that is a Replication of something that you have stored in your memory that's been downloaded and scanned so that you could go and live inside a memory in 3D space and then within that memory Have some piece of it printed out in a 3D printer.

00:16:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:52.000 Like, holy shit, I'm hanging out at my grandmother's house when I was six, because they were able to scan my memories and trans-digitize it and put it in VR space. 0.94

00:17:02.000 Oh look, there's that pendant that my grandmother liked. 0.90

00:17:06.000 Computer, print that out, and then boom, now you've got a 3D representation of something inside your memories.

00:17:13.000 Oh my god!

00:17:14.000 Think of that!

00:17:16.000 Where are we going to put it all?

00:17:17.000 People will just fill the world up with 3D images of their memories.

00:17:21.000 We'll just clutter.

00:17:23.000 That will be the new clutter.

00:17:24.000 3D images of your past.

00:17:26.000 Junkyards filled with old grandma pendants.

00:17:28.000 You go out to a field.

00:17:29.000 What is this apartment doing here?

00:17:31.000 This is the apartment where I grew up.

00:17:33.000 I rebuilt it out here in the field.

00:17:35.000 See that mattress?

00:17:36.000 I came on that mattress. 0.99

00:17:37.000 That's my cum. 0.99

00:17:38.000 I reprinted it with a 3D printer. 0.99

00:17:41.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 Yeah.

00:17:42.000 That's what you're looking at, man.

00:17:44.000 That's what you're looking at.

00:17:45.000 You are looking at...

00:17:46.000 Now, the memory downloading stuff, I don't know of any kind of...

00:17:51.000 I think that's a little bit of a stretch.

00:17:53.000 I don't know exactly where we're headed with that stuff, but I do know that they're learning a lot about memory.

00:18:00.000 I just heard that they think that they figured out a way to restore memory in people with Alzheimer's disease using some kind of sonic technology to...

00:18:09.000 To remove the plaque that's in there and the memories come back.

00:18:13.000 So we're learning about memories.

00:18:15.000 And the more we learn about memories and the more we learn about what you were talking about, which is this hyper-realistic, detailed, super ultra HD scan of the human brain, then if that is possible to recreate consciousness,

00:18:31.000 then it makes sense that you would also be able to recreate the memories encoded inside the neurology that you're duplicating.

00:18:38.000 I think that's where I was getting at when I was talking about this idea that we're in this weird space right now where this is all happening, where we're like caterpillars that are giving birth to a butterfly, or transforming into a butterfly, and it's all happening right in front of us.

00:18:55.000 That's why these violent acts are so repulsive today.

00:18:59.000 I mean, I think they were always repulsive, but now they seem particularly repulsive because you're like, God, Look what's going on. 0.99

00:19:06.000 Look how much crazy shit is going on. 1.00

00:19:08.000 If we're still having religious murders and all this is going on... 1.00

00:19:12.000 Yeah.

00:19:12.000 So, there's this weird sort of disruption in the potential of the situation.

00:19:20.000 That's right.

00:19:21.000 And this weird disruption...

00:19:23.000 Like being met with more more people are looking at these disruptions now than ever before and you're getting extremes on that end I think you and I are kind of moderate in our progressiveness, right?

00:19:34.000 We're both like totally pro gay marriage totally pro Abortion rights, please do whatever the fuck you want to do as long as you're not harming other people right, but be responsible for your actions, too And I think more and more people are,

00:19:49.000 at least in my opinion, what I'm running into, kind and aware than I think ever in my lifetime. 0.90

00:19:55.000 More people are kind and aware.

00:19:56.000 More people are also aware of the benefit of being kind.

00:20:01.000 That's right.

00:20:01.000 But along the way, you're going to have extremes on both sides.

00:20:04.000 You're going to have extreme religious crazy fucking people. 1.00

00:20:07.000 You're going to have extreme left-wing lunatics. 1.00

00:20:10.000 You're going to have all sorts of people. 0.96

00:20:12.000 Chris Ryan said it best. 0.55

00:20:13.000 He was like, they're a fascist wearing hippie clothes.

00:20:16.000 Right.

00:20:17.000 They're wearing a hippie outfit.

00:20:18.000 Yep.

00:20:19.000 And there's that, too.

00:20:20.000 But what we're learning from all this...

00:20:24.000 Is that we know more about what's going on, and we know more about where we're headed than we've ever known before, but yet we're still completely in the dark as to where this thing could go.

00:20:36.000 That's right.

00:20:36.000 We don't know where it could go, but we are the midwives of the thing, and that's the frustration, is here we are All of us are either via our attention or some people like Rick Doblin and the work they're actually doing or Kurzweil or Musk or any of the luminaries who are actively transforming society with their technological innovation.

00:20:59.000 These are midwives and they're drawing this thing out. 0.98

00:21:03.000 They're letting this thing be born and while they're letting this thing be born and what is being born is you can call it whatever you want.

00:21:10.000 You can call it a renaissance.

00:21:12.000 You can call it The techno-messiah?

00:21:15.000 You can call it whatever you want to call it, but this thing being born has not existed, as far as we're aware, on this planet.

00:21:22.000 And if it did, it was before one of those meteor impacts you talk about sometime.

00:21:27.000 But here we are delivering this thing, and in the fucking delivery room, in this incredible period in human history, where we're looking at Complete control over our genetics, solving some of the world's greatest problems, curing diseases that we thought we never could cure. 0.99

00:21:46.000 There's like assholes throwing firecrackers in the fucking delivery room, yapping about some invisible angry guy that hates gay people. 0.99

00:21:57.000 And that's really frustrating because you're You're witnessing the most radical form of violence, which is not just violence human to human, but violence in the sense of trying to destroy the potentiality of our species by clinging to an antiquated and ridiculous notion of what God looks like. 1.00

00:22:20.000 And if there is anything more violent than that, I can't imagine what it could be.

00:22:26.000 No, it's the most archaic of all beliefs.

00:22:30.000 The most archaic of all beliefs is this magic man that you've never met wants you to kill people who don't believe in him.

00:22:36.000 Yes. 0.90

00:22:37.000 That's bananas.

00:22:38.000 And this is one of those things that's just been around for long enough to get traction, and it's become a normal part of life.

00:22:45.000 But if you try to introduce it today, if most people lived a secular life, And you tried to introduce radical Christianity today.

00:22:54.000 Yes. 0.97

00:22:54.000 It would be one of the most ridiculous conversations you could ever have with people. 0.97

00:22:58.000 The news would report on it. 0.96

00:23:00.000 They would talk about the effort.

00:23:03.000 This strange new cult has come to town that wants you to believe that you were born from original sin.

00:23:09.000 And that there's a man who died.

00:23:11.000 They had to hammer him together.

00:23:12.000 He was a son of God.

00:23:13.000 They had to hammer him to some wood.

00:23:14.000 Otherwise, they couldn't fix the whole thing.

00:23:16.000 There's no other way to do it.

00:23:17.000 And they wrote this stuff down back then, and we just passed it down from generation to generation, and then this is God's Word, and that's that.

00:23:25.000 Sounds like something, if it didn't exist, like if you were on the bus with someone and they started saying it, you'd switch seats? 1.00

00:23:30.000 Because you're like, shit, man, I sat next to the fucking crazy person. 0.99

00:23:34.000 What was it? 1.00

00:23:35.000 What?

00:23:35.000 What do you think the original Bible was?

00:23:37.000 The original Bible, man, I think it was a transmission that was prepping the way for this thing that's coming.

00:23:44.000 I think it was one of the many...

00:23:46.000 In the same way you've got Elon Musk, in the same way you've got luminaries now, I think back then you had luminaries who were looking around at a world where people were...

00:23:55.000 Barbaric.

00:23:56.000 Barbaric and getting crucified, and they were like, okay, look what they had to work with, man.

00:24:00.000 You have to start with, like, hold on, maybe...

00:24:03.000 Love your enemy as you love yourself or these ideas that are unifying these ideas that could create real peace because you need the peace if you are looking at what's coming is the formation of a baby then whatever early religion is Propagating any kind of Diminishment in war any kind of or even the attempt to reduce violence then you're looking at this it's kind of like trying to create the pod within which this thing can grow because we need peace

00:24:33.000 we need stability in whatever way we can get get to now I'm not saying that the creators of the buy of the New Testament the the Gospels were like shit man we better come up with this ridiculous idea so that there can be robots in the future Yeah,

00:24:51.000 but it's all the process, right? 0.64

00:24:53.000 It's part of the process, which is why it's so ironic that the people saying there's an invisible God who wants them to kill other people, while they're doing all this, the actual God is in the birthing process in the laboratories and universities and think tanks of the planet.

00:25:11.000 It's oozing through the human imagination And manifesting is all these high-tech technologies that have, as one of their by-products, the tendency to heal. 0.97

00:25:22.000 You're talking about people 3D printing their fucking artificial limbs now? 0.98

00:25:27.000 Think about that, man. 0.99

00:25:28.000 It used to be so hard to get an artificial limb.

00:25:31.000 It's so expensive.

00:25:33.000 Like, now you could just print it out.

00:25:35.000 What did Jesus do?

00:25:37.000 He went around healing people, and you're seeing the very same thing.

00:25:42.000 The cancer prognosis, at least in a lot of cases, is much better than it ever has been.

00:25:50.000 Not to mention the treatment of all the varieties of maladies that we have.

00:25:53.000 I'm not saying Western medicine is the ultimate thing, but it is Helping people live longer and healing people, and it can be a very beautiful force.

00:26:05.000 It also is an incredibly destructive force, too, but it has a lot of wonderful byproducts.

00:26:10.000 So I think that it's incredibly ironic that those folks can't see it.

00:26:15.000 They're looking for a god that was invented. 0.99

00:26:19.000 When the actual God is right in front of them in all the high-tech shit that we see scattered around this planet. 0.96

00:26:30.000 Well, it exists in the universe wanting us to create it. 0.99

00:26:34.000 Whatever the fuck is inside of people that makes us want to breed and make buildings and keep pushing forward It's also the same thing that gives us almost universally a desire for better shit all the time Yeah, almost universally people are starting to be so entrenched into this idea of technological innovation that All the new shit, 0.98

00:26:56.000 they're up on it. 1.00

00:26:57.000 They're talking about it.

00:26:58.000 You hear what's going on?

00:26:59.000 Yeah, Master's creating a new laptop.

00:27:02.000 Master's going to get us a 15-inch with a visual optical drive.

00:27:07.000 It reads your retina and plays.

00:27:09.000 We're all, like Master has us.

00:27:12.000 Master is the machine that makes stuff.

00:27:14.000 Master.

00:27:15.000 That's master.

00:27:16.000 Master is the machine that makes stuff.

00:27:17.000 And the more of a baller you are, the more stuff!

00:27:21.000 Look at my stuff!

00:27:22.000 I got all this stuff!

00:27:23.000 And this idea that that's success, and that's based on not happiness, no, not the amount of positive interactions you have between loved ones, nope, not that, no. 0.98

00:27:35.000 How much shit you got, how many zeros and ones, how much of a What boost are you giving to this system that's trying to give birth to an artificial intelligence? 0.98

00:27:45.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:27:45.000 How much money? 1.00

00:27:46.000 How much money?

00:27:46.000 How much houses?

00:27:47.000 How much buy, [...

00:27:49.000 Do you demand the best?

00:27:50.000 Do you demand the best?

00:27:51.000 We can re-engineer it.

00:27:52.000 We can make it better.

00:27:53.000 Let's make a better model for Mr. Jones.

00:27:54.000 Mr. Jones wants the model that floats.

00:27:56.000 Let's make the model with hoverboard. 0.65

00:27:58.000 And before you know it, it's going further and further and further and further. 0.99

00:28:01.000 Almost all of it is fueled by this desire for shit. 1.00

00:28:05.000 Materialism. 1.00

00:28:06.000 Market pressures, as it's called.

00:28:08.000 And it's cool to know that that's what's manifesting the thing.

00:28:11.000 It's cool to recognize that the...

00:28:13.000 Whatever the womb of technology is, it's using everything.

00:28:19.000 It's using greed.

00:28:20.000 It's using altruism.

00:28:22.000 It's using creativity.

00:28:24.000 It's using every little bit of nutrients that's floating around our paradigm as being absorbed into this being.

00:28:33.000 And, you know, sometimes like bees, right? 0.94

00:28:36.000 Bees, they're working fucking hard, right? 1.00

00:28:38.000 They're out there getting pollen and And I know this is dumb because I don't know how a bee might think, but I bet that the bee isn't thinking, fuck man, I've got to get more pollen for the fucking hive. 1.00

00:28:51.000 I've got to do this, man. 1.00

00:28:52.000 I've got to work really hard.

00:28:53.000 I think it's thinking, God, flowers feel I feel so good to roll around inside of.

00:28:58.000 I just love rolling around inside of flowers.

00:29:01.000 And I think in the same way, humans, when they're doing all these things that seem like recreation and leisure and hedonism, they don't realize it, but they're building the machine, too.

00:29:13.000 They're building the machine by their desire for more heightened levels of hedonism, for heightened levels of sense gratification, for heightened ability to express themselves or to bring what's in their mind out into the world.

00:29:25.000 They're all worker bees that are helping to push forward the birth of whatever this thing is that is currently fermenting in the womb of time.

00:29:38.000 We're giving birth to a new thing.

00:29:40.000 I think it's going to be a life form, but it's just not going to be a life form like the way we see life forms.

00:29:45.000 We have a very rigid idea of life forms.

00:29:47.000 And our life forms have to be alive.

00:29:49.000 They have to have sex. 0.95

00:29:50.000 They have to breed.

00:29:51.000 Somehow or another, they have to replicate genetics through biological methods only.

00:29:55.000 That's it.

00:29:56.000 And that's it.

00:29:57.000 And then you have to have blood and bone.

00:30:00.000 Sure.

00:30:00.000 Something really similar that we can map out and show the difference, like a slug.

00:30:03.000 Like, what exactly does a slug have?

00:30:05.000 It's got some weird skin thing, there's no bones.

00:30:07.000 Okay, but that's alive too, I get it.

00:30:10.000 And this is gonna be a new thing.

00:30:12.000 This is gonna be a new thing. 0.98

00:30:14.000 And along the way, We're going to have some fucking bumps in the road. 0.95

00:30:18.000 It's going to be real weird. 0.98

00:30:19.000 There's going to be some bumps, man. 0.99

00:30:21.000 There's going to be some serious fucking bumps. 0.99

00:30:24.000 No way around it. 0.99

00:30:27.000 Terrence, I saw this great McKenna YouTube video.

00:30:29.000 Forgive me.

00:30:29.000 Every time I come on your show, I blab about him.

00:30:33.000 God, man, he gives this great...

00:30:36.000 The description of what's happening as we approach this event, he compares it to an airplane accelerating.

00:30:44.000 And the more you accelerate, the more turbulence you get.

00:30:48.000 And so, as we exit whatever the atmosphere is of the current time period that we're existing in and move into this next place that they're calling the Singularity, there's going to be some turbulence. 0.97

00:31:01.000 There's going to be some serious fucking bumps, man. 0.96

00:31:06.000 There's going to be bumps no matter what. 0.99

00:31:08.000 If we don't do this, there's going to be bumps.

00:31:10.000 If every scientist on earth was like, you know what?

00:31:13.000 Let's not work on AI. Let's not try to harness this power.

00:31:17.000 Let's keep technology exactly where it is right now. 1.00

00:31:21.000 We're fucked. 1.00

00:31:22.000 We're fucked. 1.00

00:31:23.000 Then we're super fucked. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Oh, then we're just doomed. 0.99

00:31:26.000 Like if all technology stopped advancing right now, how would we be fucked? 0.93

00:31:30.000 Because the problems that are emerging right now are so fucking severe that The idea that a human being or human intelligence is going to be able to solve a lot of them, that's an optimistic idea. 0.99

00:31:46.000 We're looking at ice caps fucking melting. 0.96

00:31:48.000 We're looking at people all over the world just out of control humping. 1.00

00:31:55.000 Like people, they're just, they're just, they're filling up Pussies with babies left and right. 1.00

00:32:05.000 It's happening everywhere. 0.98

00:32:06.000 No one's thinking about it, man.

00:32:08.000 One year of water in California.

00:32:10.000 One year of water in California.

00:32:12.000 Apparently one year of water.

00:32:13.000 Whatever that means, guaranteed, right now, there's 50,000 people in California with their sprinklers on full blast, watching their sweet green yard.

00:32:24.000 They know there's one year of water left in California.

00:32:26.000 They're like, whatever.

00:32:28.000 Whatever! 0.98

00:32:29.000 Here's the big one.

00:32:30.000 Golf courses. 1.00

00:32:31.000 Oh, yeah, those fucking golf courses. 1.00

00:32:33.000 I don't play golf. 1.00

00:32:34.000 If I did, I'm sure I'd be sympathetic.

00:32:36.000 And I'd be like, look, I'm paying my money. 0.99

00:32:38.000 I want my fucking water. 0.99

00:32:39.000 That's right. 1.00

00:32:40.000 Can they water the golf with the ocean?

00:32:42.000 No.

00:32:42.000 Too salty, right?

00:32:43.000 No, they can use reclaimed water.

00:32:45.000 Water the golf.

00:32:46.000 There's so much I know about golf.

00:32:48.000 Water the golf course.

00:32:50.000 Can they do that with salt water?

00:32:52.000 I think salt water is gonna fuck up grass.

00:32:55.000 I think you need some nice, pure, clean water.

00:32:59.000 But I think that you can use reclaimed water.

00:33:01.000 I mean, I'm sure there's solutions.

00:33:03.000 But, you know, my point is we've got some serious difficulties facing us.

00:33:10.000 A lot of the stuff that we need to fix some of these problems is that technology doesn't quite exist yet, but we do know that it's coming based on the very predictable acceleration that's happening that they call Moore's Law.

00:33:26.000 So we know, okay, well, we can kind of guesstimate how fast computers are going to be in 10 years based on that concept, and we can look at The problems that simulators currently are capable of solving, what kind of problems can a simulator that has the power of every human brain on the planet solve?

00:33:46.000 If you ask that, how to deal with the ice caps melting or overpopulation or some disease running rampant...

00:33:56.000 What would you think would be move number one?

00:33:59.000 What would you...

00:33:59.000 Like, if you...

00:34:00.000 If you wanted to deal with any of those issues, I would think clean up the ocean is probably one of the first ones, right?

00:34:07.000 Stop chopping down the forest, clean up the oceans.

00:34:10.000 Those are two huge ones, right? 1.00

00:34:12.000 That's like a kid who like wants to go play outside, but you have shit all over your bedroom walls. 1.00

00:34:17.000 Like, you just shit on your walls. 1.00

00:34:19.000 Like, what are you doing? 1.00

00:34:19.000 No, you gotta clean this up, you fuck. 1.00

00:34:21.000 You can't just keep going. 1.00

00:34:22.000 That's right.

00:34:23.000 Like, we've made this big mess of the ocean and everybody's like, ah, I didn't do it.

00:34:28.000 I didn't do it.

00:34:29.000 Nobody wants to say they did it. 0.99

00:34:31.000 Like, nobody wants to look at that huge fucking patch of garbage that's floating around the Pacific Ocean that all these scientists are terrified of. 1.00

00:34:38.000 Right. 0.99

00:34:38.000 Nobody wants to look at that and go, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 0.99

00:34:41.000 Okay, we did a little bit.

00:34:43.000 You did a little bit.

00:34:44.000 Let's chip in.

00:34:44.000 We've got to do this.

00:34:45.000 We've got to fix this first.

00:34:46.000 Right.

00:34:47.000 Nobody wants to do that.

00:34:48.000 Well, nobody wants...

00:34:49.000 I mean, the problem is nobody wants to do...

00:34:52.000 I mean, just...

00:34:53.000 When I say nobody, I want to say no governments want to do that.

00:34:55.000 Well, no. 1.00

00:34:56.000 I mean, fuck that. 1.00

00:34:57.000 How about no... 1.00

00:34:57.000 People want to. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Well, I mean, I think people want to.

00:35:00.000 Yeah, but there's a lot of people that are super concerned.

00:35:02.000 I don't think they have the funds or maybe the means.

00:35:05.000 I don't know if there's a physical capability.

00:35:07.000 That's what we need.

00:35:08.000 See, that's part of what technology can do is it can connect people.

00:35:12.000 I mean, look at how great it is at raising money.

00:35:16.000 Look at how powerful it is when it comes to...

00:35:19.000 Any kind of goal that you want as a society, just what you were saying is like, a lot of us are so brainwashed that we think, well, I hope the government handles this problem.

00:35:29.000 But the governments aren't the ones who are going to be transforming the earth.

00:35:33.000 It's going to be the super-connected citizens who are using technology to manifest their will in hopefully positive ways.

00:35:45.000 Yeah, there's got to be...

00:35:47.000 There's gonna be no way in the next five years to put a lid on this thing.

00:35:54.000 Oh, on the...

00:35:55.000 On the spread of technology. 1.00

00:35:57.000 Oh, fuck no. 1.00

00:35:58.000 You can't stop it. 1.00

00:35:59.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.89

00:36:00.000 I mean, everyone might as well just give up the idea that in some way this thing is being stopped and everyone just has to accept the fact that this stuff is coming and also accept the fact that the world is a fuckload better than a lot of people think. 0.97

00:36:15.000 That's big.

00:36:16.000 And that's a big, big shift that needs to happen.

00:36:19.000 I mean, I think, you know, even as we figure out how to deal with the oceans or any great problem facing us, there also needs to be a deep and prolonged inner work that people need to be having with themselves. 0.69

00:36:36.000 Because our amygdalas are going fucking nuts right now.

00:36:40.000 Have you seen this? 0.98

00:36:41.000 Oh, wow.

00:36:42.000 Have you seen this?

00:36:43.000 No.

00:36:43.000 This is a new robot.

00:36:44.000 Look at this. 1.00

00:36:45.000 You want to shit your pants? 1.00

00:36:46.000 You're gonna shit your pants. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Oh, I've seen that. 1.00

00:36:48.000 I've seen that gal. 1.00

00:36:49.000 Yeah, I've seen that one.

00:36:50.000 It's like a Japanese new robot that they've created. 1.00

00:36:53.000 It's a woman and it will blow your fucking mind. 1.00

00:36:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:36:56.000 You think you're being taken.

00:36:57.000 It'll do more than blow your mind, Joe. 0.99

00:36:59.000 Oh, you rascal. 0.97

00:37:01.000 I know what you were saying. 0.97

00:37:03.000 It's the craziest looking robot I have ever seen in my life.

00:37:08.000 It's very realistic.

00:37:09.000 It's so realistic.

00:37:10.000 Hyper realistic.

00:37:11.000 The YouTube video is titled, Very Real Looking Robot.

00:37:15.000 And it's one of those breakthroughs where you look at it and you just go, oh, wow, I didn't know they were that far.

00:37:23.000 Right.

00:37:23.000 I didn't know they got that far.

00:37:25.000 And, you know, man, it's like, that's fucking cool. 0.82

00:37:28.000 And that's an amazing, amazing thing. 0.95

00:37:32.000 And that's nothing.

00:37:34.000 And, you know, that humanoid robot thing that everyone sort of, we've envisioned is what it is.

00:37:39.000 Right.

00:37:39.000 That's really like just one little piece of what we've got coming down the pipes.

00:37:53.000 Vessels within which the AI will exist, because the AI is going to exist in the cloud.

00:37:59.000 So what's really curious is that we will have this new kind of wind blowing through the world.

00:38:06.000 It's the wind of the cloud, of all the data that has now become personified or personalized by some artificial intelligence.

00:38:14.000 And that data, whenever it wants to, will be able to pop into open portals, which will be robots.

00:38:22.000 So, robots are cars for artificial intelligence.

00:38:25.000 And artificial intelligence isn't going to be localized inside the robot.

00:38:29.000 That's what we all think.

00:38:30.000 You know, you go to the robot and you, like, ask it the right question, its eyes bulge out and smoke comes out and you beat the robot.

00:38:37.000 That's not how it works at all.

00:38:38.000 The robot... 1.00

00:38:40.000 That's the fucking image. 1.00

00:38:42.000 Yeah, that's the image. 1.00

00:38:43.000 That's from a Bugs Bunny cartoon or something?

00:38:44.000 Yeah, it's from Star Trek.

00:38:46.000 You're like, could God make a rock so big he can't move it?

00:38:49.000 And the robot, like, POW! It explodes.

00:38:51.000 Really?

00:38:51.000 That was Star Trek?

00:38:52.000 Well, that wasn't the question, but there are ideas.

00:38:55.000 You can malfunction an AI if you ask it the right question.

00:38:58.000 That's the perfect one.

00:39:00.000 Could God make a rock so big that even he couldn't move it?

00:39:02.000 Yeah.

00:39:03.000 That's a good one.

00:39:04.000 Yeah, it's like the...

00:39:05.000 Robot can't handle it.

00:39:07.000 Can't handle it.

00:39:07.000 Gonna pop.

00:39:08.000 That's what we think.

00:39:09.000 That's how you fight these things.

00:39:13.000 With riddles.

00:39:15.000 Riddles.

00:39:18.000 Fight the robot with a riddle.

00:39:20.000 Yeah.

00:39:21.000 But you see, you're talking about this.

00:39:25.000 It's very similar to a lot of mystical conceptualizations of the way human life is, which is that human beings are antennas for a transcendent intelligence that tunes into the specific genetic...

00:39:40.000 Code that is inside of every person, that unique code is like a radio station that the vast, supernatural, undiscovered, transcendent cloud of consciousness that they used to call God tunes into or is channeled through.

00:39:58.000 It's the same idea with robots.

00:39:59.000 The idea will be there will be this AI existing in the cloud that whenever it wants to will be able to pop into a machine.

00:40:08.000 What's that sound?

00:40:09.000 Is that a...

00:40:10.000 car alarm?

00:40:13.000 It's weird.

00:40:14.000 It's coming through the...

00:40:14.000 you hear it?

00:40:15.000 You hear it in the headphones.

00:40:16.000 It sounds...

00:40:16.000 Yeah.

00:40:17.000 It's freaking me out.

00:40:20.000 Jesus, Jamie.

00:40:21.000 What could it be?

00:40:22.000 Maybe it's the toilet overflowing.

00:40:24.000 There's a car alarm going off.

00:40:26.000 Hopefully it's not yours.

00:40:28.000 I don't...

00:40:29.000 The government, man.

00:40:31.000 They don't want us to talk about this.

00:40:33.000 They love it.

00:40:33.000 The government loves this.

00:40:34.000 You know, they do. 1.00

00:40:36.000 The military loves this shit. 1.00

00:40:38.000 That's one of the engines pushing this thing. 1.00

00:40:42.000 Next door's alarm going off?

00:40:45.000 Sorry, ladies and gentlemen.

00:40:47.000 Do you think there's really a conscious effort, like people love what's going on, like they actually enjoy it?

00:40:53.000 Or do you think that it's just this inevitable thing that people are trying to profit off of in one way or another, be a part of it, benefit from, just ride this wave, just stay on the board as long as you can?

00:41:03.000 Do you think it's more of that than it is like they love it because it's good for business?

00:41:09.000 That's how we would like to look at the government.

00:41:10.000 They love chaos.

00:41:11.000 Yes, they love war.

00:41:13.000 They profit off of it.

00:41:14.000 It's good for business.

00:41:16.000 God, if only it were that easy.

00:41:18.000 It's just not that easy, man.

00:41:19.000 I just interviewed Doblin, and he's talking about going into the Pentagon to talk about using MDMA to treat PTSD with these high-level people, and they're not like you, Doblin. 0.92

00:41:31.000 Hippie, druggie.

00:41:33.000 They're like, oh, okay, I think we understand what you're saying.

00:41:36.000 And that's kind of stunning when you realize that you can't demonize all facets of the government.

00:41:45.000 There are people and parts of the government that must be... 1.00

00:41:50.000 Awful, nefarious, greedy fucks. 1.00

00:41:52.000 But also in there, there's great people who really want the world to be better and to think that just because you end up with a government job therefore means you're evil is the most ridiculous, stupid idea of all time. 1.00

00:42:04.000 It doesn't. 0.99

00:42:04.000 It's a lot of people, man. 0.99

00:42:06.000 They actually want to...

00:42:08.000 They're not like us.

00:42:10.000 We're comedians.

00:42:11.000 We enjoy telling jokes, and we have a podcast, and I think we both have our own desire to help the world. 0.77

00:42:16.000 But some people, they want to help the world so fucking bad that through high school they volunteer, they get out of high school, go to fucking college, join the Peace Corps, and they give their entire lives up Making very little money to try to help people.

00:42:33.000 And those people, sometimes they get into the military and sometimes they get into the government because they see that as the most efficient, obvious way of helping the world. 0.85

00:42:42.000 And so, yeah, we can't do the whole black and white thing anymore.

00:42:44.000 But some of those people are not, oh, let's have AI. Some of those people are just like us.

00:42:49.000 They're like... 1.00

00:42:50.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:42:52.000 This is incredible. 0.99

00:42:54.000 Let's fund this and see where we can take it.

00:42:57.000 Let's see what we can do with it.

00:42:59.000 Everyone's like that.

00:43:00.000 Well, isn't that best case scenario?

00:43:01.000 Is that our government actually becomes cool?

00:43:03.000 Is that the internet sort of forces only cool people into office and our government becomes something we can all tolerate?

00:43:09.000 Yeah, that's a dream.

00:43:10.000 I mean, that would be the ultimate thing.

00:43:11.000 I mean, the structure itself is really only a problem when enough corruption exists to capitalize on the holes in the system.

00:43:18.000 Yeah.

00:43:18.000 Like, being influenced by big money corporations, twist policy to suit their needs so they can profit, all that stuff's a problem.

00:43:29.000 Yes.

00:43:29.000 But the system itself is not the worst system in the world.

00:43:32.000 Nope.

00:43:32.000 It's not awful if everybody was cool.

00:43:35.000 You know, if you had an entire system, you know, of, think of a very nice person, who's your favorite person?

00:43:42.000 Who's like one of the sweetest, most intelligent...

00:43:44.000 How about DJ Doug Pound?

00:43:46.000 DJ Doug Pound. 0.99

00:43:47.000 DJ Doug Pound's cool as fuck, smart as hell. 0.98

00:43:49.000 One of the coolest people on earth. 0.97

00:43:51.000 If he was in a position of mayor or governor or, you know, senator, if the whole system was built with guys like that...

00:44:02.000 It'd be the coolest...

00:44:03.000 It'd be the greatest thing ever.

00:44:05.000 Weirdest...

00:44:05.000 It would be fantastic.

00:44:06.000 Most beautiful world ever.

00:44:07.000 Every congressman, DJ Doug Pound.

00:44:10.000 That'd be amazing.

00:44:10.000 That kind of guy.

00:44:11.000 That kind of guy. 0.95

00:44:12.000 The kind of guy who's not trying to fuck you over, just wants to have fun with his friends, is very creative, very intelligent, and very considerate. 0.98

00:44:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:19.000 Yeah.

00:44:19.000 Well, that's possible, man.

00:44:20.000 That's fucking possible. 0.99

00:44:22.000 We just don't think it's possible because these wolves have been in office for so long. 0.99

00:44:26.000 Right.

00:44:26.000 Snapping at each other's heels.

00:44:28.000 Yeah.

00:44:28.000 Keeping all the competitors at bay.

00:44:31.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 They're wolfing it out.

00:44:33.000 Right. 1.00

00:44:33.000 Big corporations are stuffing their wolf assholes. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Picking up their wolf tail and they're just packing money in their wolf assholes and sending them out there to do their bidding. 1.00

00:44:43.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:44:43.000 That's what they become. 0.99

00:44:44.000 They become these fucking dogs. 1.00

00:44:46.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:44:46.000 These monsters that are just at the very tip of this hill that we're chasing them up. 1.00

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 With sticks.

00:44:52.000 Pointy sticks.

00:44:52.000 Like...

00:44:54.000 Realize if they're gone, if like all that criminal corrupt bullshit that we think of when we think of the worst aspects of government, if all that shit goes away, then you know what we're left with? 0.99

00:45:03.000 DJ Doug Pounds. 0.99

00:45:05.000 Okay?

00:45:05.000 Just cool, smart people that make rational choices and aren't going to give in to greed.

00:45:12.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:45:13.000 And here's the other thing, man. 0.99

00:45:14.000 It shouldn't be a full-time job, okay?

00:45:16.000 It should be something that you contribute to every now and again.

00:45:19.000 And people try to do our best.

00:45:20.000 Like, we all take turns running the government.

00:45:23.000 Like, everybody gets a week, you know? 0.76

00:45:25.000 And it's a fucking very, you know, It's a very prestigious job. 0.80

00:45:29.000 Everybody gets very excited about the possibility of representing our country for a week. 0.98

00:45:33.000 And you go there, and you do your best to do the will of the people, you make rational choices, you all try to talk it through, and everybody knows it's very possible one day you're gonna get called, man.

00:45:43.000 You're gonna get called, and they're gonna ask you to be the president for a week. 0.98

00:45:46.000 And you gotta step in, because you're a I'm a fucking American, and that's what we do. 0.97

00:45:49.000 And I go, Duncan Trussell, you are our president for the week. 0.98

00:45:52.000 And you'll go on TV, and you go, I am so not prepared, but I promise, as an American, I am going to do my best to do what's right, to do what's ethical, and to do what benefits the greater humanity of the world.

00:46:04.000 And I'm going to do it day after tomorrow, because I procrastinate everything.

00:46:08.000 But my trainer's coming over, and I have to beat off.

00:46:14.000 But if that was what happened, everybody got to be the president for a week.

00:46:19.000 Everybody had to.

00:46:20.000 It'd be amazing.

00:46:20.000 A jury duty.

00:46:22.000 What you're talking about is a beautiful idea, and I think that it's possible.

00:46:26.000 I think that's another crazy thing about this time, Warren, is it's possible.

00:46:30.000 When people hear that, you know, and obviously you're...

00:46:34.000 We're not talking about that literally, but with ideas like, when people hear what you're saying, any kind of optimism right now, in general, in the world, is met with a pretty severe eye roll.

00:46:44.000 Like, come on!

00:46:45.000 Yeah, I really think you can clear out those wolves. 1.00

00:46:47.000 We're talking about a fucking government that is bought and sold. 1.00

00:46:51.000 It is controlled by the prison industrial complex. 1.00

00:46:54.000 It is controlled by Big Pharma.

00:46:55.000 It is controlled by the military industrial complex.

00:46:58.000 These people... 0.98

00:46:59.000 Their pockets are loaded with so much fucking dough and they have been so conditioned by a game that dehumanizes people to the point where they no longer see giant swaths of humans in other countries as people. 0.98

00:47:15.000 It is important to realize that these wolves that you're talking about, we're talking about a different species here, friend. 0.99

00:47:20.000 If you look at, like, what's going on in the UK with these organized pedophile rings that seem to consist of people in the highest level of government.

00:47:30.000 I can't remember who it was.

00:47:32.000 One of the investigators said it seems to be built into the system in some way.

00:47:37.000 Yeah, look it up. 1.00

00:47:38.000 It's scary fucking shit, man. 1.00

00:47:40.000 That's insane. 1.00

00:47:42.000 So when you look at- I had avoided that stuff because it bums me out when I saw those those stories, but that's what they're saying?

00:47:47.000 That's what they're saying.

00:47:48.000 But here's the difference.

00:47:49.000 Here's the difference.

00:47:50.000 And that's horrifying to imagine because you know this we hear it.

00:47:52.000 It's so funny to hear with the UK government and people are like, what?

00:47:56.000 But now you hear about a priest doing it and people are like, yeah, that just happens.

00:48:01.000 It's like you're looking at, you know, an organized System that has as part of the destructive result that it reaps on the planet also psychically wounding children in the worst way possible.

00:48:16.000 So this is a...

00:48:18.000 I think that...

00:48:20.000 That the reason that that isn't as grim and horrible as it sounds is because the difference today as opposed to 30 years ago is that we get to say it in front of however many zillions of people listen to your podcast and that info instantly travels around the world.

00:48:38.000 Thirty years ago, if you think that if there truly is an organized group of pedophiles that have as their membership high-ranking government officials, not just probably in the UK, but in the United States too, if that really does exist,

00:48:54.000 it didn't just start Today, or last week, or two years ago, that's been around for a long, long time. 0.99

00:49:02.000 So the difference between back then and now is that shit is getting everywhere. 0.96

00:49:08.000 Everyone on planet Earth is aware of this investigation. 0.98

00:49:12.000 You can't get that genie back in the bottle, even though I think a lot of people are trying.

00:49:16.000 They're saying that the whistleblowers for this are not going to have immunity.

00:49:21.000 That's one thing that the government has said.

00:49:22.000 If you're a whistleblower for this weird ring of pedophiles, no immunity.

00:49:27.000 You're going to jail, too.

00:49:29.000 So they're like squelching. 0.99

00:49:30.000 There seems to be an element that is trying to push this shit down, of course, because if it's true, that some speculate that even members of the royal family could be involved in this shit. 1.00

00:49:40.000 Wow. 0.99

00:49:41.000 Yeah, look it up.

00:49:42.000 It's a deep, dark, David Lynch-level Twin Peaks shitcoaster, but the...

00:49:48.000 That might be one of the best descriptions ever.

00:49:58.000 Say that again?

00:49:59.000 A deep, dark, David Lynch-level shitcoaster. 0.93

00:50:05.000 Twin Peaks style, worms deep in the ground.

00:50:10.000 But the positive thing is they're getting exposed in a way that they could never have been exposed before.

00:50:16.000 So, yeah, I think that any kind of darkness that is Existing on the world, it's very good to use the example of wolves being driven up a hill with torches.

00:50:26.000 It's just in this case, the torches are Edwards, the torchbearers are Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, all the whistleblowers who have the fucking guts to reveal and illuminate this probably pretty built-in old system of humans that have Victimized children.

00:50:48.000 Victimized children and the world and the planet and seem to take a lot of pleasure from victimizing other human beings. 0.91

00:50:53.000 It's there.

00:50:54.000 It might be your secret religion.

00:50:55.000 Who knows?

00:50:56.000 Do you think that the reason why this stuff exists more in the older countries, the reason why this system might be in place in somewhere like the UK, I mean, there's this horrible reality, like that Jimmy Seville guy,

00:51:11.000 that guy that was the presenter, On television.

00:51:13.000 Yes. 0.99

00:51:14.000 That it turned out was some crazy pedophile. 0.99

00:51:17.000 Yes. 0.99

00:51:17.000 These guys that are in this country. 0.99

00:51:19.000 I mean, England is an amazing country, right?

00:51:22.000 London's fantastic.

00:51:23.000 One of the weirdest things about London when you walk around is you see the age of things.

00:51:27.000 And it makes you as an American feel like, God, my country's a baby. 0.87

00:51:31.000 Yeah, like this country's been around for a thousand fucking years, but does it not have the echoes of those old people? 1.00

00:51:37.000 Yes. 0.98

00:51:37.000 Just like we talked about before the echoes of savages, does it not have that? 0.98

00:51:41.000 Sure.

00:51:41.000 And don't you think that the best case of escaping that is almost like literally escaping the physical space of that country.

00:51:48.000 Absolutely. 0.99

00:51:48.000 And the people that are trapped there, it might take them longer to shake that shit out. 0.99

00:51:52.000 Yeah, well, especially if you look at the epigenetic research coming out, the idea that phobias get passed down genetically from one generation to the next, then you're also kind of looking at... 0.99

00:52:05.000 It's a really curious thing, and this is pure woo-woo hippie ramble, so I get it.

00:52:10.000 Everybody out there is going to tweet something how wrong this is, but I was thinking like these countries where war has been going on forever.

00:52:19.000 If what they're saying about epigenetics is correct and that phobias get passed down somehow chromosomally, then if there's a place where war has been happening long enough, then there is the potential that...

00:52:34.000 Encoded genetically into the people who've been living there is like all the phobias and fears and terror that comes from living in a war zone for hundreds and hundreds of years. 0.52

00:52:46.000 It's inside of them somehow.

00:52:49.000 It's like made its way inside of them.

00:52:51.000 It's a really scary thing to think.

00:52:54.000 That the problem that we are experiencing is not just our own inner turmoil that comes from all the loss and catastrophe that is inevitable in human life, but that we're also dealing with all the turmoil and catastrophe of our ancestors.

00:53:07.000 And that, you know, the United States, it's been, you know, our wars are happening elsewhere.

00:53:13.000 That's one of the spoiled brat aspects of our war-like country, is that we don't experience what it's like to hear the hum of a drone and suddenly have the incineration of a landmark that we have grown up around.

00:53:29.000 We haven't experienced that.

00:53:31.000 That's why the motto of the Weather Underground, that terrorist organization that was trying, the Homeland Terror organization that was trying to protest Vietnam, their motto was bring the war back home.

00:53:41.000 They wanted to blow up buildings in the United States to demonstrate to people, this is what it looks like when bombs go off.

00:53:49.000 We're doing that there. 0.97

00:53:51.000 So if this epigenetic shit is correct, a lot of people living in the United States, they're not going to have the same kind of phobias in their chromosomes that people living in countries that have been exposed to war for hundreds of years would have. 0.97

00:54:05.000 Yeah, there's no getting around it, right? 0.98

00:54:07.000 No getting around it.

00:54:08.000 If you look at, like, bees, like you look at a bee that makes a beehive, We were talking about bees earlier today, like what it would be like to be a bee, right?

00:54:16.000 It might be some beautiful thing.

00:54:18.000 Yeah.

00:54:19.000 Where's the bee getting the information to build that hive? 1.00

00:54:22.000 Why are they all doing the exact same thing?

00:54:23.000 Right.

00:54:24.000 How do they figure out that they're supposed to go get the nectar, and then they're covered with pollen, and then they fly over to the other flower?

00:54:30.000 Is that encoded in them somehow?

00:54:32.000 It must be if they can't communicate.

00:54:34.000 They're all doing it.

00:54:35.000 I think it's a frequency that their structure is tuning into.

00:54:41.000 Like if you saw a remote control car, a tiny little remote control car, zipping around on the table, and it was like avoiding obstacles and going to exactly where it would go.

00:54:51.000 If you were like, let me look inside the car to find the way that it's able to figure all this shit out, you would be missing what was really happening, which is that the car is tuning in to a frequency that is...

00:55:04.000 You know, the directing it. 0.91

00:55:07.000 So, listen, I mean, again...

00:55:08.000 No, it's a totally fascinating concept, and it might totally be right.

00:55:12.000 I mean, think about how many different bugs exhibit the exact same behavior, all of them all over the world.

00:55:20.000 They have their own little groups.

00:55:21.000 They exhibit the same behavior.

00:55:22.000 They know how to build these leafcutter ants.

00:55:24.000 They build these gigantic...

00:55:27.000 Compounds.

00:55:27.000 Dig holes.

00:55:28.000 They create little areas where leaves ferment.

00:55:32.000 It's a bizarre, complicated thing they figured out how to all do.

00:55:37.000 It's not so out of the question to think that they're getting that from the sky.

00:55:42.000 Or they're getting that from some...

00:55:44.000 Some frequency, they have a channel.

00:55:46.000 They can tune it in and we can't.

00:55:48.000 Well, and you get into like, you know, dimensional stuff where it's like, okay, if it's epigenetics and if information is being transferred, not just in writing, And not just in the teachings of the parents to the kids, but chromosomally,

00:56:04.000 then that means that every living entity is the very tip of a temporal appendage that stretches all the way back to the Big Bang.

00:56:15.000 So it's not just an ant, it's the end of the genetic line of that particular entity.

00:56:20.000 Ant's family tree that goes all the way back through time, and it's transferring information via chromosomes.

00:56:28.000 So this is a creature.

00:56:29.000 You're looking at the very tip of a...

00:56:31.000 It's like what Douglas Adams said about mice in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, that mice were actually the very tip of the appendages of a super intelligent creature that likes to study scientists.

00:56:44.000 Ha ha [...

00:56:52.000 It's so cool, man. 0.92

00:56:53.000 But in the same way, it's like every single one of us is just the tip of this temporal appendage erupting into this fucking dimension connected to us, theoretically, by the way. 0.94

00:57:05.000 Don't ever fucking show some of us stoner one internet article on epigenetics or you won't suddenly become a doctor of epigenetics. 0.95

00:57:15.000 So I'm sorry. 0.99

00:57:17.000 But if that stuff is true, man, and memories are being transferred chromosomally, then that means that we are the very end of a telephone wire that goes back through all our ancestors all the way down to proto-hominids and before that to whatever fucking shit we were in the beginning.

00:57:34.000 And that information is like zinging up through time and is determining, possibly determining, what we like and what we don't like. 0.62

00:57:42.000 It totally makes sense.

00:57:43.000 I mean, this is the most recent civilization in modern world, is America.

00:57:49.000 And this is the most recent version of it, California. 0.99

00:57:52.000 This is like everybody got, they landed on the East Coast and they went, fuck this, and they kept going. 0.99

00:57:57.000 Right. 1.00

00:57:57.000 And the really crazy fuckers made it all the way over to here. 1.00

00:58:00.000 This is like the latest version. 1.00

00:58:01.000 If you go back the furthest, you're in Africa, you're in Iraq. 0.99

00:58:07.000 So my assertion was always that those are the townies of the world.

00:58:12.000 That's what that is.

00:58:13.000 This is where the people started. 0.97

00:58:15.000 Everybody who's left is still believing shit that was written down on tablets because they never got a fresh influx of DNA. They're still dealing with the old operating system. 0.89

00:58:24.000 They have Windows 95 on their machines.

00:58:26.000 And they never got out.

00:58:27.000 They never got out.

00:58:28.000 They're still there.

00:58:29.000 And not only that, they're dealing with loss.

00:58:32.000 They're dealing with massive loss left and right.

00:58:34.000 Massive loss.

00:58:38.000 The need for revenge is through the roof.

00:58:41.000 The madness is through the roof.

00:58:42.000 The loss of loved ones is all the chaos that comes along with that through the roof, which almost reinforces the old ways of thinking.

00:58:49.000 That's it, man.

00:58:51.000 It's less than new DNA. It's rekindling the most primal of DNA, the animal that wants to kill the other attacking animal.

00:58:58.000 Yeah.

00:59:00.000 Listen, man, if you live in a country where war is happening all the time, you got a lot to work with, man. 0.98

00:59:05.000 There's a lot of shit that you've seen and a lot of fear that you've seen, that you've witnessed. 0.97

00:59:11.000 This interview I did with Doblin was really cool. 0.99

00:59:14.000 He's talking about how one of the folks that helps out at MAPS is one of the Rockefeller descendants, and I can't remember his name now, but who...

00:59:26.000 He's recognized that in these war-torn parts of the world, if you really want to heal the psychic damage that has been done to these people, it's going to require MDMA-assisted psychotherapy or some kind of psychotropic substance where you could get in there and Help deal with these traumatic memories that people have over there.

00:59:48.000 That has to be a part of reconstruction, is not just going and building, not just blowing a place up and then flying in and being like, alright, we'll help you build it back up, guys.

00:59:58.000 We're fine now, right?

01:00:00.000 Everybody's cool?

01:00:02.000 Hey, we made you a water treatment plant.

01:00:04.000 Yes, we did.

01:00:06.000 Yes, we did.

01:00:06.000 No, it's like you got to get in there and like, and not just there, everywhere.

01:00:10.000 Like, we got to get in there and we have to start, you know, doing a lot of inner work with ourselves so that we can...

01:00:18.000 So that we're not going to fuck up once we hit a certain MPH when it comes to technological acceleration.

01:00:25.000 You know, that's the thing. 0.91

01:00:27.000 There's two jobs.

01:00:28.000 Work on the self, and then do as much as you can to help in the world.

01:00:32.000 You want to be the force of kindness.

01:00:35.000 You want to be that wave of positivity that you're talking about.

01:00:39.000 Because the hope is that the more that there is, the more it'll trickle into the...

01:00:46.000 As I'm saying this, I'm like, oh god, but they're blowing people up, man.

01:00:50.000 How do you fix that?

01:00:53.000 There's one part of me that's like, I know that the combination of these technologies along with a shift towards the positive or the concerted effort by a certain number of people to turn their attention to the potentiality of our species can create an incredible change in the planet.

01:01:10.000 And then there's another part of me That's like, no, friend, no. 0.93

01:01:15.000 Nuclear proliferation, biological weapons, there's no fucking way to like... 0.90

01:01:22.000 There's no way to stop it. 0.96

01:01:25.000 Is that true though?

01:01:26.000 Because if we look at life right now, no nuclear war, no biological war, why would we think that's inevitable? 0.97

01:01:33.000 If we're smart enough to avoid that right now, with all the conflicts over mineral rights and oil in the fucking Antarctic region and the Soviet Union's planting flags and new spots near Greenland or wherever the fuck they are, we're still not blowing each other up. 0.99

01:01:47.000 Why do we have to think that that shit's inevitable? 0.99

01:01:53.000 Human beings are not tolerating the shit like overall that we did before people are more aware of what we're talking about before Yeah, it's one of the reason why it's so horrific when you see acts of violence today When you see someone blowing up a mosque today when you see someone gunning down people at a synagogue any crazy religious motivated things Especially innocent people that you don't even know but they were the wrong religion So you gunned them down like this is the worst representation of the human mindset. 0.99

01:02:17.000 Yes When you're seeing that and you're seeing the potential, you're seeing this potential for oneness, almost like a DMT trip.

01:02:28.000 You're almost seeing like a living, breathing DMT trip that is around it.

01:02:34.000 It's got these organic, frustrated souls trapped in terrible scenarios without any of it being their doing.

01:02:44.000 Born in the Congo.

01:02:46.000 Born in Iraq.

01:02:48.000 During the war, born in Afghanistan, all of the above, born in Vietnam during the Vietnam War.

01:02:54.000 All this stuff is going on at the same time. 0.99

01:02:56.000 All this chaos and fucking outdated, crazy, monkey, havoc, murder, rampage, take body. 0.99

01:03:04.000 And all that's going on right when the electronic DMT trip is happening. 1.00

01:03:09.000 Yes.

01:03:09.000 All together at once.

01:03:10.000 And threaten each other in certain ways.

01:03:14.000 That's right.

01:03:15.000 Organisms.

01:03:16.000 Yeah, well, that's what it seems like, man.

01:03:17.000 And then you get into some really tricky terrain here because you've got to, like...

01:03:25.000 Isn't this race an organism? 0.99

01:03:27.000 Well, yeah, I think it is.

01:03:29.000 I think we're looking at a superorganism, all of humanity.

01:03:32.000 Superorganism has some form of schizophrenia.

01:03:34.000 Superorganism, it's like a tree, and every single branch of the tree is a human being, and that tree that is...

01:03:42.000 Some of the branches are fighting with each other.

01:03:44.000 It doesn't know it's a tree yet.

01:03:47.000 Or, another way to put it might be the tree is fighting over what kind of fruit to bear.

01:03:52.000 Part of the tree wants to bear super radical Islamic fruit. 0.97

01:04:02.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:03.000 It wants people to get up early in the morning, pray, it wants women to wear burqas, and it wants there to be that.

01:04:11.000 Now, that's an extreme version, and I don't know how enormous that population is.

01:04:17.000 Actually, you know, when I did one of my live podcasts, man, I asked if there was a Muslim in the audience, and this guy was like, yeah? 0.99

01:04:26.000 And I had him come on stage and talk about ISIS, and he's like, we fucking hate them. 0.93

01:04:31.000 Like, that's not what it is at all. 0.99

01:04:33.000 That's just the most extreme, ridiculous version of it.

01:04:37.000 And he was as sweet as could be, man. 0.99

01:04:39.000 This guy was like the opposite of anything that you would consider to be even mildly fucked up or dangerous. 0.97

01:04:48.000 He sang this beautiful prayer. 0.97

01:04:51.000 It didn't feel like he was...

01:04:53.000 Secretly, anything at all.

01:04:55.000 It was a beautiful thing, man.

01:04:56.000 It was really cool.

01:04:57.000 Of course.

01:04:58.000 So...

01:05:00.000 But, you know, there's a lot of people who say, no, no, no, no, no. 1.00

01:05:03.000 The whole fucking thing's fucked. 0.99

01:05:05.000 That if we're really gonna, like, make this a better planet, then more and more and more and more and more, we have to abandon these antiquated symbol structures. 0.99

01:05:13.000 We have to turn our eyes away from our addiction to the past and, like, focus on the now.

01:05:20.000 I don't agree with that.

01:05:21.000 I think there's a lot of beauty to be harvested and all that stuff.

01:05:24.000 But still, man, it's like, it's a complicated problem.

01:05:27.000 Because...

01:05:29.000 What do we do when 3D printers meet DNA? What do we do when you can 3D print an Ebola virus?

01:05:39.000 What do you do when that technology is accessible to anyone who wants it?

01:05:43.000 Because that's the problem, is that everybody's going to have this level of power.

01:05:48.000 And you really do just need two people. 0.99

01:05:50.000 You want to, like, fuck up guns? 0.99

01:05:52.000 You want to fuck up guns for everybody? 0.99

01:05:54.000 What do you do? 1.00

01:05:55.000 Start shooting people. 1.00

01:05:57.000 Start shooting people. 1.00

01:05:58.000 You want to fuck up, and inevitably, what happens? 1.00

01:06:01.000 What happens? 0.99

01:06:01.000 Someone will do it. 0.99

01:06:02.000 If there's guns, inevitably, some fucking asshole who is either going to hallucinate a bird talking to him, or just have a fucking... 1.00

01:06:12.000 A chip on his shoulder about his boss is going to go into a fucking place and shoot up a bunch of people. 1.00

01:06:18.000 And that ruins it for all of us. 1.00

01:06:19.000 Now, if you own a gun, some people will think you're a fucking asshole for no reason. 1.00

01:06:24.000 Just because they don't understand that it's fun to blow up things at a firing range. 1.00

01:06:30.000 It's just fun.

01:06:31.000 It has nothing else.

01:06:32.000 I just like watching skeet explode from time to time.

01:06:37.000 That's it.

01:06:38.000 It doesn't indicate some darkness in my heart.

01:06:40.000 It's fun to be outside. 1.00

01:06:42.000 It's fun to watch shit blow up. 1.00

01:06:43.000 It's fun to hear big booms. 1.00

01:06:45.000 It's fun.

01:06:46.000 So, anyway, that's beside the point.

01:06:49.000 The point is that's a gun, right? 1.00

01:06:51.000 The fucking guns that are coming, man. 1.00

01:06:53.000 The shit that's coming down the pipes. 1.00

01:06:56.000 The fact that you're going to be able to have some wet works bio lab in your basement and harvest some kind of weird shit, the weaponry that's going to be accessible to people in the future is going to be way more powerful than what we have now, and that's the scary part. 0.99

01:07:11.000 Don't you think that's kind of built into this system?

01:07:13.000 That in order for us to progress to this next level, the only thing that's holding us back is that there's going to be a certain amount of people that are left behind.

01:07:25.000 So the idea is this system is almost ensuring by providing almost everyone with the same technological capabilities to destroy the world that we all have to get it together. 0.70

01:07:36.000 Like you have to force people to take care of all the fucked up spots. 0.85

01:07:40.000 We have to literally embrace the idea of us as a super organism. 0.90

01:07:45.000 And any spot we see that's sick, we have to heal it immediately.

01:07:49.000 We can't look at some cancerous thing and go, I'm not even going to get that checked out.

01:07:54.000 What's cancerous?

01:07:55.000 The worst aspects of Skid Row.

01:07:58.000 Skid Row is cancerous.

01:08:00.000 Skid Row is a, if you haven't been and you go to LA, you really should go through downtown and see Skid Row because it's shocking.

01:08:07.000 It's one of the most densely packed representations Of people with mental health issues, people despondent, drug addicts, all these, all jammed into this area and they're all living out of boxes.

01:08:20.000 And it's like, it's one of those things where you just go, okay, what is, is anyone going to do anything?

01:08:25.000 Like, what are they going to do?

01:08:26.000 Just kind of put up places to feed them?

01:08:29.000 Is there a way to fix this?

01:08:30.000 Is there a way to help these people?

01:08:32.000 Is there a way to get them medication?

01:08:35.000 Do you need to get them counseling?

01:08:36.000 Is there a way?

01:08:37.000 What can we do?

01:08:38.000 Or is everybody just going to ignore that you have a cancer in the middle of your city?

01:08:42.000 If you drive by that, that's a spot that's sick. 0.95

01:08:45.000 That spot's sick.

01:08:46.000 If that's us, if that's not us in our best versions of, Duncan Trussell going hiking, yeah, we're going to Laurel Canyon.

01:08:53.000 Hey, everybody, I'm drinking water.

01:08:55.000 I got a new trainer.

01:08:56.000 There's that.

01:08:57.000 And then there's this.

01:08:59.000 Yeah.

01:08:59.000 And you see Skid Row.

01:09:01.000 You go, okay, what the fuck is going on there? 0.99

01:09:03.000 What are you going to do with those people? 0.99

01:09:04.000 The Congo.

01:09:05.000 What are you going to do with India?

01:09:06.000 What are you going to do with all parts?

01:09:08.000 What do you mean India?

01:09:08.000 Which part of India?

01:09:09.000 Most of it.

01:09:10.000 How about there's three times as many people and one third as much room as America?

01:09:16.000 Right.

01:09:16.000 And they're going to keep going too, right?

01:09:18.000 They're going to keep having sex with people. 1.00

01:09:19.000 Yeah, so that's a problem, man. 0.99

01:09:23.000 It's crazy.

01:09:24.000 But that's where you get into real interesting terrain, which is that, okay, because the thing that you're talking about, I'm pretty sure, going in and cleaning up the cancer...

01:09:34.000 It's almost totally socialism. 0.98

01:09:35.000 It might make Alex Jones' butthole suck so far inside of him that it would cause the singularity. 0.99

01:09:42.000 John Rogan! 0.99

01:09:44.000 He would be very upset with me.

01:09:45.000 Clean up the cancer!

01:09:46.000 What are you going to do?

01:09:47.000 Put them in camps?

01:09:48.000 What are you going to do?

01:09:49.000 FEMA camps!

01:09:50.000 Yeah, are you going to put them in FEMA? Because it is that...

01:09:52.000 No, it's not that, though.

01:09:53.000 It's kind of the opposite.

01:09:54.000 It's kind of figure out some way to give them...

01:09:57.000 I mean, we would look at it like...

01:09:59.000 If you look at Skid Row, how much money would it cost to clean up Skid Row?

01:10:02.000 How much money would it cost to almost assign a SWAT team of specialists that can re...

01:10:11.000 Introduced homeless people back into society in a comfortable way and get them jobs, train them, and have money.

01:10:18.000 Hold on a second.

01:10:19.000 How much money would that cost?

01:10:21.000 Would it be even what the Iraq War cost in a day?

01:10:24.000 Right.

01:10:25.000 That's true.

01:10:25.000 You could fix giant spots on Earth with money.

01:10:30.000 And everybody's like, oh, you can't just throw money at the problem.

01:10:33.000 It's our tax dollars.

01:10:35.000 I'm talking about the exact same tax dollars redistributed.

01:10:38.000 That's cool.

01:10:39.000 If you really don't like the government taking your tax dollars, I completely understand.

01:10:43.000 I completely understand.

01:10:45.000 But guess what?

01:10:46.000 You don't have any choice now as to what they do with it.

01:10:49.000 Wouldn't you be happy if they took the same amount of money and they just put more of it towards that? 0.93

01:10:55.000 More of it towards fixing up all these fucked up neighborhoods where everybody's born into severe poverty. 0.91

01:11:01.000 That's cool. 0.99

01:11:02.000 That's a fucking cancer spot, and you could call me socialist because I kind of am with that. 0.99

01:11:06.000 With that kind of stuff, I kind of am. 0.99

01:11:07.000 I am with people that are trapped in bad circumstances.

01:11:10.000 I am with babies.

01:11:12.000 I am with children that grow up in horrible environments.

01:11:15.000 I'm totally socialist.

01:11:16.000 I don't think those kids should have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

01:11:19.000 I think there should be a way that we prevent these people that live in the worst spots in the world From continuing with that horrible state of living, that horrible quality of life, where you're getting sick all the time.

01:11:35.000 Justin Wren, who's a friend of mine from the UFC, he used to fight in the UFC, and now he's been working with the Kongos and the Pygmies.

01:11:42.000 And these pygmies in the Congo are like the sweetest people and he helps them.

01:11:46.000 He gets a medication.

01:11:47.000 We helped fund wells there.

01:11:49.000 Yeah, and we get people to donate money on Bitcoin and I matched the money and then we bought wells.

01:11:56.000 Dude, this guy's the coolest, but these people, they didn't ask to be born there, man.

01:12:01.000 And they have these bulging stomachs because these little kids have all these parasites inside of them and they have bad water and it's one of the reasons why so many of them get sick.

01:12:09.000 This guy's going over there, man.

01:12:11.000 And this guy is helping these people in a very tangible, very real sense.

01:12:15.000 He's right there in that.

01:12:17.000 And when you see that someone out there is like that, it gives everybody a little more hope.

01:12:24.000 That's what we have to do.

01:12:25.000 What we have to do is make sure that all those spots where there's people, all those spots where there's people, they get brought up to the normal way of living.

01:12:32.000 Like a normal way of living.

01:12:34.000 Medicine, education, food.

01:12:37.000 We can do that.

01:12:39.000 We can do that.

01:12:40.000 And all we have to do is just put different people in charge of getting all the money.

01:12:46.000 Instead of war profiting, you just have like...

01:12:51.000 Hope profiting.

01:12:52.000 Yeah.

01:12:53.000 Like, all these different organizations that people are, like, drawn to.

01:12:58.000 And they want, like, a guy like Justin Renn, drawn to.

01:13:01.000 He has to go over there.

01:13:02.000 Right.

01:13:02.000 He spends six months over there.

01:13:04.000 He gets malaria. 1.00

01:13:05.000 He got fucking malaria. 1.00

01:13:07.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:13:07.000 Yeah, fuck. 1.00

01:13:09.000 These people are out there, man. 1.00

01:13:11.000 They're out there.

01:13:12.000 And then the idea is, instead of recognizing those people are out there, recognize that they're out there, and then become one of them.

01:13:20.000 That's the next step.

01:13:21.000 Become one.

01:13:22.000 You know, it's like this guy, Jack Kornfield, this Buddhist teacher tells me about Buddhism.

01:13:26.000 He says, we don't want you to be a Buddhist. 0.97

01:13:29.000 We want you to be the Buddha. 1.00

01:13:31.000 Don't be a fucking... 1.00

01:13:32.000 You want to become that. 1.00

01:13:34.000 And anyone can.

01:13:35.000 That's the other thing, man.

01:13:36.000 You can instantaneously, right now, by calling the number on your screen, you can instantaneously, right now, no doubt about it, within the next hour, regardless of your economic situation, Give some percentage of what you have in a way that's probably barely going to affect your life to some cause that in mass would create what you're talking about.

01:14:00.000 The healing beam, the transformation, the shift.

01:14:03.000 It could easily be done.

01:14:04.000 You could do it right this second.

01:14:06.000 You could.

01:14:07.000 And it could also be done with taxes.

01:14:10.000 It needs to be both.

01:14:12.000 It's not just taxes, because again, that goes back to the government.

01:14:15.000 The government, government, government, government, government.

01:14:17.000 Right, but the government, at least we could look at the books.

01:14:20.000 Private citizens to start to open up companies and go over there and do charity work and wind up pocketing a lot of the money.

01:14:26.000 It still hits us back at the core level.

01:14:28.000 We've got to figure out a way to eliminate greed and figure out a way to elevate people up to a normal health status.

01:14:36.000 That's right.

01:14:36.000 Like modern living.

01:14:38.000 That's right.

01:14:38.000 If they want to.

01:14:39.000 But what if they don't want to?

01:14:40.000 If they don't want...

01:14:41.000 I mean, there's a lot of people that live in the jungle, Brazil. 1.00

01:14:43.000 They're probably just like, fuck this, man. 1.00

01:14:44.000 I like it right here. 1.00

01:14:45.000 Or like the guy I passed next to the 7-Eleven yesterday who I saw shoot up with black tar heroin.

01:14:51.000 He...

01:14:51.000 I don't know if that...

01:14:52.000 If like...

01:14:53.000 I don't think that's gonna like...

01:14:54.000 I can't imagine what conversation in some nice air-conditioned dome I could have with that guy.

01:15:01.000 But you know what?

01:15:02.000 That's not fair.

01:15:03.000 Who knows?

01:15:03.000 What if you gave him up a game?

01:15:04.000 Or what if we developed an actual super cure for addiction and you could snap him out of it?

01:15:11.000 Well, listen, man.

01:15:12.000 I had a guy on my podcast today, and he was really interesting.

01:15:15.000 Dr. Andrew Hill.

01:15:17.000 And he's the guy who created this stuff.

01:15:18.000 It's like a nootropic blend.

01:15:20.000 It's called True Brain.

01:15:21.000 Oh, cool.

01:15:22.000 He's got like three different ones.

01:15:23.000 You can try it if you want.

01:15:24.000 That was good.

01:15:24.000 I had the one with caffeine earlier.

01:15:27.000 Anyway, very, very cool and interesting guy.

01:15:30.000 And he was talking about this very thing.

01:15:33.000 Well, you know, this very thing is, this is a lot, you know about Singularity University, Kurzweil, and I think his name's Diamandes, you wrote this book Abundance, I can never get his name right, but, so basically the idea is, What are the world's big problems?

01:15:52.000 How do we fix them using the law of accelerating returns?

01:15:57.000 The thing you're doing right now is almost as important as fixing the problem.

01:16:03.000 It's like what Tim Ferriss told me when he was interviewing super wealthy people.

01:16:10.000 He said they ask better questions. 0.98

01:16:12.000 It's the question, it's like fearlessly asking the big fucking questions like, what do we do to heal Skid Row? 0.98

01:16:24.000 How do you fund, how do you get fresh water To all the parts of the world that are currently drinking diseased water. 0.98

01:16:33.000 How do you do it?

01:16:34.000 And how do we use this new technology, this new emergent technology to get that to people?

01:16:40.000 Well, this is what this guy's specialty is.

01:16:42.000 One of his specialties is using neurofeedback to cure people of ADHD, to cure people of all sorts of issues by figuring out a way to give them, to empower them how to manipulate their brainwaves.

01:16:54.000 Wow.

01:16:54.000 All done through technology.

01:16:55.000 All legit above board.

01:16:57.000 All no woo-woo stuff at all.

01:16:58.000 All fascinating biofeedback stuff.

01:17:01.000 Super open-minded guy.

01:17:02.000 Really fascinated about the concept of fixing certain addictions and weird behaviors by monitoring neurofeedback and figuring out.

01:17:13.000 Really interesting stuff, dude.

01:17:16.000 Some of the stuff that they've created, they've been able to eliminate seizures in people who are epileptic by giving them the ability to manipulate the way their mind works.

01:17:25.000 Like changing the gears in your mind, teaching you how to manipulate it and move it and train it.

01:17:31.000 Really, really, really fascinating stuff. 0.99

01:17:34.000 So when you know that guys like that are out there that are doing this kind of shit... 0.98

01:17:37.000 Ibogaine is one, but he was talking about a bunch of things. 0.99

01:17:40.000 He was talking about a bunch of things, even sometimes shock therapy.

01:17:44.000 What he says is that what seems to need to happen is there needs to be a complete reset of the system.

01:17:49.000 And he said a bunch of medical terms that I don't remember.

01:17:51.000 I'll have to go back over and listen to exactly how he described it.

01:17:54.000 It happens.

01:17:55.000 But he said these transformative experiences are very, very important for resetting and reshaping.

01:18:01.000 Essentially what we've been saying.

01:18:02.000 It's like you operate on momentum.

01:18:04.000 You just got the momentum of the world clipping at your heels, and it's almost like you can't get out of your own way.

01:18:10.000 Right. 0.56

01:18:10.000 So this guy is talking about it from a neuroscientist standpoint, so it's really interesting to get a guy who really knows what the fuck he's talking about kind of affirm what your suspicions might be in some sort of a vague way. 0.56

01:18:25.000 You mean your suspicions being like the reset that comes from a super-duper psychedelic trip? 0.81

01:18:31.000 Yeah.

01:18:31.000 Oh, yeah, right.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, man.

01:18:33.000 Like you need to step outside yourself.

01:18:36.000 Yes.

01:18:36.000 Or the reset that comes when you have some tragic event happen in your life.

01:18:41.000 Sometimes, yeah. 1.00

01:18:42.000 Yeah, it's always that moment where you're like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:18:45.000 Because it's kind of like... 0.99

01:18:48.000 A really intense game of make-believe.

01:18:51.000 That's what society is.

01:18:52.000 Like, everybody's playing these roles in it, and everyone's really committed to the game in the most intense way possible.

01:18:58.000 And you get so committed to the particular role that you're playing, whatever it may be, that you forget that that's just one role out of an infinite number of possible ways that you could be.

01:19:10.000 You don't have to be stuck in In your current system of predilections, or to really break it down, people are either attracted to certain, people tend to be attracted to things or repelled by things.

01:19:27.000 Right.

01:19:27.000 And the things that you're attracted to, some people aren't attracted to.

01:19:31.000 And the things that you're repelled by, some people are not repelled by, they're attracted to.

01:19:36.000 So the question is, how much can you change your levels of attraction or desire and aversion?

01:19:44.000 How trapped are you in whatever your particular modality is?

01:19:50.000 Can you get out of that? 0.99

01:19:52.000 And you sure as fuck can. 0.99

01:19:53.000 And the psychedelic trips... 0.99

01:19:56.000 Or definitely one way.

01:19:58.000 Meditation is another way to figure it out.

01:20:00.000 It seems like whoever we are, whoever we are, we are operating on some sort of an operating system.

01:20:07.000 And that operating system is your personality.

01:20:09.000 It's like it allows you to go through this life with some sort of a weird semblance of how things are going to be because you know how they just were.

01:20:18.000 Yes.

01:20:18.000 And it can be empowering or it can be extremely disempowering, especially if you don't like certain aspects of your past.

01:20:26.000 You know, you're frustrated with them defining you.

01:20:30.000 Yeah.

01:20:31.000 And that's where things like psychedelic experiences can really come in handy.

01:20:35.000 That's right.

01:20:36.000 Because they jolt you out of this.

01:20:38.000 Or the death of a loved one could have a similar effect, you know. 0.94

01:20:43.000 Obviously much more tragic and much more difficult to get out of but if you know you talk to someone and they lost a loved one Regular trivial bullshit is really not gonna affect them the same way It's gonna affect someone who's living a bored life who wants to gossip about shit if someone loses their mom They don't want to gossip about nothing man You know, 0.63

01:21:01.000 it's like there's just this reality of things that's totally different.

01:21:04.000 People can go, and when they go, you're gonna miss them.

01:21:08.000 You're gonna miss your loved ones.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:10.000 And we're all gonna get out of this one time or another while everybody else is going.

01:21:16.000 Well, that's where it becomes simultaneously tragic.

01:21:19.000 And then on top of it, there's that DMT thing that you get taught where it's like, right, yes, your mom died.

01:21:27.000 Guess what?

01:21:29.000 You're gonna die too, and everyone's gonna die, and everyone's already died. 0.95

01:21:33.000 There's so many people died before you.

01:21:35.000 And then somewhere in there, cause you know man, that thing you're talking about there, the waking up that happens from a death that involves grief.

01:21:46.000 That's like the very beginning part of the thing that you're given when a parent dies.

01:21:52.000 But then the next thing you're given after that is pretty fucking incredible, which is that you realize that they don't seem to be gone. 0.52

01:22:01.000 You know what I mean? 0.56

01:22:02.000 Even though their physical body isn't here anymore, you really do...

01:22:08.000 Feel them in certain ways inside of you not in a delusional way like oh the spirit of my mom is following me around but it feels like you can feel your mom and your heart all the time always there all the love that they give you all this thing behind all the bullshit everyone's got bullshit because we're human beings but the thing behind all that that's what sticks around inside of you and it's really it's really beautiful and I think you know whenever I take a DMT trip because my tendency is for my attention to go to the grief

01:22:38.000 for my attention to go to the oh God I don't want to die and I don't want to lose anybody else and I can't believe how many people are gonna die and everyone's gonna that my attention habitually goes to there but whenever you like smoke DMT one thing that I've noticed when I've done it outside of whatever the statute of limitations is is that You're immediately given this view of one of the most beautiful things you've ever seen in your life.

01:23:08.000 The most beautiful.

01:23:10.000 The most, perhaps.

01:23:12.000 The most beautiful.

01:23:13.000 There's sentience to it.

01:23:15.000 It's alive.

01:23:15.000 However, for whatever reason, it does not feel like it's coming from you.

01:23:20.000 It feels like it's outside.

01:23:21.000 The thing's alive.

01:23:23.000 And you're like somebody you just had a hard day at work and just walked into the ultimate surprise party where everyone's like And it's like, oh god, it's beautiful, but I'm so fucking tired.

01:23:38.000 And oh, I'm so sad. 0.99

01:23:41.000 And oh, I feel like shit. 0.99

01:23:42.000 And it's like, the message it gives you is, right. 0.99

01:23:47.000 See?

01:23:48.000 You are clinging to this identity of the sad, tired, unhappy person.

01:23:56.000 But if you just let go for a second, you're gonna have a really good time at this party.

01:24:02.000 And You know?

01:24:06.000 And that's the identity reset that I think they're talking about.

01:24:10.000 And it's so possible, because that's a game. 0.99

01:24:12.000 The game of the hunched-over businessman with the briefcase and the weary face and the big sighs and the depressed tweets and the, oh man, this fucking world is... 0.99

01:24:22.000 That's a role... 0.99

01:24:23.000 You are playing a part. 0.99

01:24:24.000 You are like fucking Daniel Day-Lewis, and you are committing fully to the part of the mopey, depressed... 1.00

01:24:33.000 Businessman. 1.00

01:24:33.000 That's a part, and you're winning awards for it, left and right, in the form of all the people who secretly hate you. 1.00

01:24:39.000 Or all the people who you make feel sad.

01:24:43.000 You're having a real effect in the world.

01:24:45.000 Well, when you try to sell someone something, you're wearing a suit and tie.

01:24:48.000 Aren't you doing a ritual dance?

01:24:49.000 Yes, you are.

01:24:51.000 Yes, you are.

01:24:52.000 A hypnotic dance. 1.00

01:24:53.000 You're throwing up those fucking tail feathers and sucking in the gullible. 1.00

01:24:57.000 Yeah, it's a dance. 1.00

01:24:58.000 Let me tell you something.

01:24:58.000 I can make you a deal on one of these 2014's F-150.

01:25:02.000 They changed the structure to aluminum, but I'll tell you what, I don't like it, buddy.

01:25:05.000 I like the old steel.

01:25:07.000 I like the good old steel, and I'm going to make a real good deal on that.

01:25:09.000 Joe.

01:25:10.000 They have a way of talking to you, and you're just like, ah, ah, ah.

01:25:13.000 That's what salesmanship is.

01:25:14.000 It's really good acting.

01:25:15.000 Yeah, and that's what being a pickup artist is.

01:25:18.000 It's the same idea.

01:25:19.000 It's trickery.

01:25:21.000 It's trickery.

01:25:23.000 But a cool thing to realize is, and it's a fun thing to realize, and it's a blasphemous thing to realize.

01:25:29.000 Blasphemy.

01:25:30.000 It's blasphemous because you want to believe that you're a victim.

01:25:35.000 It's nice to feel like you can blame other people.

01:25:38.000 It's the best. 0.99

01:25:39.000 It's the best to come home and put the fucking briefcase down and take the sigh and sink down into your couch and now you've got an excuse to slurp back that fucking whiskey that you've been trying to pour all over your happiness that's frozen under the fucking ice of the role that you're playing. 0.99

01:25:56.000 It's fun to be like that, but the psychedelic, the mushroom, the psychedelic reminds you. 0.99

01:26:05.000 It won't let you get away with that.

01:26:07.000 It's like, no, no, no.

01:26:08.000 I'm sorry, friend, but you're in the Garden of Eden.

01:26:12.000 It's beautiful here and perfect.

01:26:15.000 And oh, get ready for some really bad news.

01:26:18.000 You're perfect.

01:26:19.000 We love you.

01:26:21.000 You're wonderful.

01:26:22.000 You're forgiven.

01:26:23.000 You haven't done anything bad.

01:26:25.000 Everything that you think is bad is something that you did when you're in a kind of dream.

01:26:29.000 You were sleepwalking.

01:26:30.000 We don't care.

01:26:32.000 We love you no matter what.

01:26:34.000 And whenever you're ready to accept that, we're right here for you. 0.99

01:26:36.000 And that sucks, because if you're really hooked on being Elliott Smith, and you're really getting off on that fucking dark hell that you're in, it's a little annoying to realize, like, you're fucking giving away the thing, man! 0.99

01:26:49.000 Don't let people know! 0.99

01:26:50.000 I'm committed to this!

01:26:51.000 It's like they say Daniel Day-Lewis.

01:26:53.000 He had to get carried around during My Left Foot by the Crew, because he committed so much to the role of being a paraplegic that they had to carry him from one place to the next, because the way he acts, it's incredibly disruptive to him if people talk to him as Daniel Day-Lewis,

01:27:10.000 that he wants to be the role that he's in.

01:27:12.000 So in the same way, when DMT comes along and is like, Mr. Lewis, no!

01:27:21.000 That is not who I am!

01:27:22.000 I am a depressed man who is middle-aged, is terrified, and is trying to control people who aren't acting the way I want them to act. 0.93

01:27:31.000 I am not fucking Mr. Trussell, whoever you just called me. 0.93

01:27:34.000 I'm not a being of love. 0.99

01:27:35.000 I'm a being of darkness.

01:27:37.000 And it's like, no.

01:27:38.000 You're just playing make-believe, man.

01:27:41.000 You don't have to keep playing that.

01:27:42.000 You have shiny shoes.

01:27:44.000 You have shiny, slippery shoes on.

01:27:46.000 Yeah.

01:27:47.000 Why do you have a tie clip on?

01:27:49.000 Yeah, why do you have that? 1.00

01:27:50.000 Why are you wearing a fucking... 0.99

01:27:52.000 Why are you wearing a noose with geometric patterns on it? 1.00

01:27:57.000 You know, that's one of the things that those Secret Service dudes, like any guy who has to wear a tie on the job, they all have clip-ons.

01:28:03.000 You can't choke those guys.

01:28:04.000 Alright, that makes sense.

01:28:06.000 Yeah.

01:28:07.000 But, you know, if you're a business, it's not being a businessman is any better or worse than any other role that you're playing.

01:28:12.000 It's what's bad is when you forget that you're playing the role.

01:28:15.000 Well, the realization that you've come to while on a psychedelic trip That'll have to be almost the realization that everybody comes to when technology and information, like, they meet head-on.

01:28:31.000 When we hit the fork in the road, the tip of the spear.

01:28:35.000 If you get to the part where both sides are moving in, like, an unstoppable pace.

01:28:43.000 There's got to be a way.

01:28:45.000 There's got to be a way to bring everybody into the party.

01:28:48.000 Yeah.

01:28:48.000 If more people don't know about it, if more people don't experience this pause in history where people across the entire planet are waking up and saying, wait a minute, this thing, this whole thing might not be what we think it is.

01:29:05.000 This whole thing might not be what we think it is.

01:29:07.000 Right. 1.00

01:29:08.000 This crazy desire that we have is finite life forms to build a nest egg and put together some fucking structure somewhere that you're gonna stuff with shit. 0.99

01:29:17.000 And doing so, in doing so, feed this weird machine. 0.99

01:29:21.000 You're throwing money into it and it's chewing the money out. 1.00

01:29:24.000 It's about to fucking give birth. 1.00

01:29:26.000 It's got its robot legs in the air, and its robot pussies quivering, and it's just throwing money into its robot tits, and it's just chewing that robot money up, and it's ready to give birth. 0.99

01:29:38.000 It's ready to give birth to some sentient, super intelligent thing that will then give birth to other sentient, super intelligent things that will figure out a way to completely rewire the entire Earth. 0.94

01:29:50.000 All of our waste will then be converted into a positive Everything that's negative, all pollution will be engineered out of commission and into some sort of oxygen cleaning machine that fuels itself on pollution to the point where it gets to a certain point and when it runs out it just spits flowers.

01:30:09.000 When it runs out it takes whatever remnants and shoots flowers into the sky and that's where you walk.

01:30:15.000 You're gonna have rose petals falling from the street because the sky is gonna be perfectly clear.

01:30:19.000 Sure.

01:30:20.000 Yeah.

01:30:20.000 Why not?

01:30:21.000 Why not?

01:30:22.000 Why not?

01:30:23.000 I mean, if you look at what's going on now compared to what was going on a thousand years ago, this is a wonderful, wonderful time.

01:30:30.000 And also in this book, Abundance, highly recommend it for anybody who's into not feeling like you're in hell.

01:30:37.000 Who wrote it?

01:30:37.000 I can't pronounce his name.

01:30:38.000 Can you look it up?

01:30:39.000 I'll look it up.

01:30:40.000 Diamandes?

01:30:40.000 He's one of the co-founders of Singularity University.

01:30:44.000 Let me look it up real quick.

01:30:46.000 And he's one of the guys that thinks it's all going to be rosy.

01:30:49.000 Well, it's not like they think everything's...

01:30:50.000 They recognize that...

01:30:52.000 See, the thing about the...

01:30:54.000 There he is.

01:30:55.000 Peter Diamandis.

01:30:57.000 Yeah, the thing about this law of accelerating returns is it doesn't just apply to great things, it also applies to chaos.

01:31:04.000 Uh-oh.

01:31:07.000 I knew there was a hook.

01:31:08.000 These guys understand that the collapse is going to have the same kind of velocity as whatever this thing is.

01:31:16.000 So I don't think they're so naive about it.

01:31:17.000 They're just...

01:31:19.000 They've just recognized this, what we're calling a baby being born.

01:31:25.000 They've recognized the things being born.

01:31:27.000 They can kind of predict what phase of birth it's in.

01:31:30.000 And based on that prediction, they can predict what's coming out next.

01:31:34.000 And based on that prediction, they can start working right now to solve some of the big problems out there.

01:31:40.000 And one of the things he says is that in a lot of countries, The amount of people who have phones right now is just insane.

01:31:48.000 One example he gives is this.

01:31:52.000 The amount it would have cost to light your house prior to electricity with wax candles or lanterns is so much more expensive than the amount it costs to light your house now.

01:32:06.000 It's so much cheaper.

01:32:08.000 The technology of lighting is accessible to almost almost All levels of economy, except for the ultra, super, very, very, very, very poor.

01:32:19.000 And there's a lot of them out there, but having a light bulb in your shack can still happen.

01:32:25.000 And if you have a light bulb in your shack, you're doing a hell of a lot better than a lot of people who used to have to have tallow.

01:32:32.000 I can't remember what he called it, like old school wax.

01:32:35.000 And there's a lot of other examples, which is, part of what he's saying is there's a few problems we have to solve right now.

01:32:44.000 One of them is clean water.

01:32:46.000 We've got to get clean water for so many people in the world who just don't have it.

01:32:51.000 They're drinking poison every day.

01:32:54.000 So that's something we've got to figure out.

01:32:56.000 And then there's a few other biggies like that. 0.99

01:32:58.000 And people like him are of the opinion that these are very solvable problems based on current predictions involving the direction that technology is going in. 0.98

01:33:09.000 And Kurzweil's Fucking predictions are coming true, man. 0.98

01:33:12.000 There's a lot of people who roll their eyes at him. 0.99

01:33:15.000 Wozniak recently came out and said, you know, he used to think that stuff was crap, but now he's realizing it's true. 0.97

01:33:21.000 You know, this is happening. 0.97

01:33:23.000 It's definitely happening.

01:33:24.000 And folks like Diamandis, they're trying to steer the boat in the direction of Utopia, because they know that it could be done.

01:33:32.000 Wow.

01:33:33.000 I've heard people criticize...

01:33:36.000 Kurzweil's ideas saying that he doesn't really understand human biology.

01:33:39.000 He doesn't understand the biology of the brain.

01:33:41.000 But I think his point is, I think, is that it's not going to matter.

01:33:45.000 You're not going to have to be able to replicate everything that the brain does and how it does it in order to recreate consciousness.

01:33:50.000 The consciousness may be independent of that.

01:33:53.000 You might be able to, literally, you might be able to transfer it.

01:33:57.000 I hope so.

01:33:57.000 That's gonna be so bizarre if that really does happen if they can figure out a way to Download your consciousness into a computer if that really becomes right now It's like it's it's one of those things that they're working on but it seems like a pipe dream right doesn't it to you still what Consciousness downloading consciousness into a computer that seems like a pipe dream It seems like a pipe dream until okay,

01:34:18.000 so but I believe it could happen.

01:34:20.000 I'm sorry.

01:34:20.000 I think it could happen I think it could too man.

01:34:23.000 You're an antenna.

01:34:24.000 You're an antenna consisting of all the nanoparticles all the way up to what you are right now.

01:34:30.000 That combination of everything inside the meat body that you're currently, that's called Joe Rogan.

01:34:37.000 It's in some configuration right now.

01:34:39.000 It's in some exact configuration, or maybe in the deepest levels, it's kind of like harmonic vibrations or weird resonances that are happening in the nanotubules of your dendrites or something.

01:34:51.000 But regardless, this thing in front of me right now, the idea is if I duplicate it exactly, Is it going to be you?

01:35:01.000 Is it going to be exactly you as you are right now?

01:35:04.000 And if we really are antenna, then yeah, it's going to tune in the thing that you're tuning in.

01:35:09.000 And maybe both of you will be tuning in at the same time.

01:35:13.000 Maybe there'll be this weird sense of being stretched into two different forms.

01:35:19.000 Maybe you will actually have to extinguish one form to experience the other one. 0.99

01:35:24.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.98

01:35:25.000 Well, that would be the ultimate pull, right? 0.99

01:35:26.000 If they can prove that that form, the form of...

01:35:30.000 Virtual life is more rewarding more powerful more beautiful I mean if you went into a virtual life if you plugged into the matrix and you were in avatar and you're in love with that blue chick Yeah, you're just flying around dragons together.

01:35:43.000 Yeah, you might do it dude.

01:35:45.000 You might do it.

01:35:46.000 I mean it might feel amazing It might feel just wonderful, right?

01:35:50.000 I mean, okay, so it's like okay Let's imagine that we could do this.

01:35:55.000 Just because we've gotten to the point in history where through some form of analysis we can scan the human body and tune consciousness in in a virtual land, right?

01:36:08.000 But you're still out here.

01:36:10.000 It's just temporarily your consciousness has been transferred into Avatar world where you're flying dragons, making love to these Amazonian blue-skinned women. 0.96

01:36:20.000 Imagine Like an hour and a half of living in this planet when you knew you had to come back.

01:36:26.000 And you're like, you know...

01:36:29.000 I don't think I'm gonna come back.

01:36:30.000 I think I'm just gonna stay.

01:36:32.000 How do you pay for it, though?

01:36:34.000 You just have to get a job.

01:36:35.000 Well, you're in the cloud now.

01:36:36.000 You don't have to get a job.

01:36:37.000 You've been assimilated in the cloud.

01:36:39.000 What if your credit card comes up in the cloud and they're like, look, we need to go on missions?

01:36:43.000 And you go, what?

01:36:44.000 And you realize you have to earn your keep, even in the virtual world.

01:36:48.000 They don't tell you that until you sign up.

01:36:50.000 Nobody would sign up if we told them that.

01:36:51.000 But you have to be our virtual slave to pay for your virtual account so you can keep riding virtual dragons.

01:36:57.000 And here, I want to show you something really funny. 0.99

01:36:59.000 And then it goes to the webcam or the computer you're body sitting in front of, and it's just some guy's mouth-fucking your paralyzed meat body. 0.99

01:37:08.000 That's the thing, too. 0.98

01:37:09.000 What happens to our bodies if our consciousness gets transferred?

01:37:13.000 That's a very good point.

01:37:13.000 What are they going to do with all these bodies?

01:37:15.000 And what if you want to go back?

01:37:16.000 Can you go back? 0.86

01:37:17.000 And if you go back, what if you go back and you're like a person with brain damage?

01:37:22.000 Like, what if you go back and you don't get it?

01:37:25.000 It doesn't work anymore. 0.99

01:37:26.000 It's all fucked up. 0.98

01:37:27.000 It's not quite right. 1.00

01:37:28.000 Or what happens when you're out of it and some other fucking thing pops in and pretends to be you? 0.95

01:37:34.000 Like, what about that if we're tuning in stuff? 0.98

01:37:36.000 Because really what we're talking about here is if you do believe, and we've gone real far, I mean...

01:37:41.000 Can you imagine, though, if we did transfer you back and forth?

01:37:44.000 And you went there and you were just a meat box for a while.

01:37:48.000 And then you came back like six months later, but you were like brain damaged, but you had fantastic stories.

01:37:54.000 Yeah.

01:37:54.000 You were just like, they lent me back, but you can't believe what's on the other side.

01:37:59.000 There's dragons.

01:38:00.000 They fly.

01:38:02.000 The dragons fire.

01:38:03.000 The people are big.

01:38:03.000 They're blue.

01:38:04.000 It's amazing.

01:38:05.000 They talk to the tree.

01:38:06.000 They link up to the tree.

01:38:07.000 And you seizure.

01:38:10.000 And they try to decide whether or not you're telling the truth.

01:38:12.000 We believe he's delusional.

01:38:14.000 Something happened to Duncan.

01:38:15.000 We think he had some sort of a seizure, and when he returned, he thought that he'd lived for seven years in the clouds with giant blue people.

01:38:24.000 Obviously, that didn't happen, okay?

01:38:26.000 He was only unconscious for a half an hour, and you're like...

01:38:30.000 And you know.

01:38:30.000 You know what they don't know.

01:38:32.000 You know.

01:38:32.000 You know that you crossed over, but you ran out of money.

01:38:34.000 Well, that's hilarious. 1.00

01:38:36.000 They kicked you right back, bitch. 1.00

01:38:38.000 Well, that is going to be part of it. 1.00

01:38:39.000 They take everything, and then you only, you know, you get like six years.

01:38:43.000 What happens after six years?

01:38:44.000 Think of that happening right now.

01:38:46.000 Right now...

01:38:47.000 Oh, everybody would sign up for it.

01:38:47.000 No, I'm saying as you're going to your car, right now as you're walking to your car, you're like, that was a good podcast, man.

01:38:54.000 This is so cool.

01:38:55.000 I get to be Joe Rogan.

01:38:56.000 I host the UFC. And fucking awesome. 0.98

01:38:59.000 And all of a sudden, a pop-up. 0.99

01:39:00.000 It's like, bling!

01:39:02.000 Your credits have expired for the Joe Rogan experience. 0.93

01:39:05.000 If you wish to continue, like, how do I even fucking pay for this? 0.92

01:39:09.000 Then you just come to, you're some sweaty guy, sweaty Ethiopian and a wife, Peter. 1.00

01:39:16.000 On that fucking, what's that cat, that stuff they chew? 1.00

01:39:20.000 Cot. 1.00

01:39:21.000 Cot?

01:39:21.000 How do you say it?

01:39:22.000 I don't know. 0.94

01:39:23.000 It's disgusting.

01:39:24.000 Someone gave me some amphetamine. 1.00

01:39:25.000 Yeah, you're just on a weird amphetamine, hallucinating.

01:39:28.000 But, you know, man, I think that that's probably something that we're...

01:39:33.000 That's the kind of thing we are going to have to deal with.

01:39:36.000 Based on this new VR I've seen, VR addiction is going to be a very, very real thing.

01:39:42.000 So you called me.

01:39:44.000 When I was in front of the improv, I picked up the phone.

01:39:47.000 I've told about 10 people the story.

01:39:48.000 And you're like, dude, this changes everything!

01:39:50.000 Yeah.

01:39:50.000 This is bigger than the internet!

01:39:52.000 Yeah.

01:39:52.000 And I was like, what?

01:39:53.000 And I was really high, and I was about to go on stage.

01:39:56.000 And I was listening to this. 1.00

01:39:57.000 I was like, what the fuck, dude? 1.00

01:39:59.000 Like, what are you talking about? 1.00

01:40:00.000 Like, what happened?

01:40:01.000 And you told me about this video that you saw.

01:40:03.000 Like, explain the video of going up to that piano.

01:40:06.000 Oh yeah, the video, this is like, you know, and shit's gotten like five, probably ten times better since this, by the way, but this was, it's a demo of Oculus Rift, and you put this on, and suddenly you're like in a loft in New York,

01:40:22.000 and you're Watching this guy who's like looking at you like he knows you and he's smoking a cigarette and he starts playing piano and you look around you're in a fucking loft man it looks like it's like tracked perfectly it was it looks you're just suddenly in this other place and it feels really intimate like it feels like you know the guy this is before I tried VR porn by the way which I must have told you made me stumble I must have told you about that. 0.97

01:40:52.000 Do you have to pee? 0.97

01:40:52.000 I don't have to pee. 0.97

01:40:54.000 Sorry I'm wriggling around.

01:40:55.000 No, but I know you warned me.

01:40:58.000 I warned Joe.

01:40:58.000 But you banged through two hours like a champion.

01:41:01.000 Well, that's because I squeezed it out right before he came on.

01:41:05.000 Squeezed it. 0.65

01:41:07.000 But yeah, have you tried VR porn? 0.92

01:41:09.000 No, I'm scared.

01:41:10.000 I'm scared to lose my life in that. 0.74

01:41:12.000 In the porn? 0.99

01:41:13.000 Yeah, lose your life in VR porn. 0.99

01:41:15.000 Jesus Christ, son. 0.99

01:41:16.000 Joe, you're gonna try it. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Eat a hash cookie, put on the VR porn goggles, slap warm baby oil over your cock. 1.00

01:41:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:41:28.000 No, you're not going to slap warm baby oil. 1.00

01:41:30.000 It's going to have sex with you. 1.00

01:41:31.000 Yeah, you're going to put some kind of sleeve on your cock that is going to perfectly replicate exactly what's happening inside the VR. Do you think you'd be a one-pump chump under those circumstances? 1.00

01:41:44.000 The first time. 1.00

01:41:47.000 How many times did you fuck it in a day? 1.00

01:41:48.000 I'd go to Duncan's house. 0.99

01:41:50.000 Hey man, I haven't seen you for a while, so I thought I'd just check in on you.

01:41:53.000 You've lost 50 pounds.

01:41:54.000 Your cheeks are sunken in.

01:41:56.000 Your eyeballs are sitting deep in the back of your head.

01:41:58.000 You're like, hey man, you got any water?

01:42:01.000 You got any liquids, man?

01:42:03.000 You got any Pedialyte on you? 0.99

01:42:04.000 My cock has just been rubbed down to some kind of red mucusy tendril. 1.00

01:42:10.000 Outer layers of the onion have been peeled away. 0.99

01:42:13.000 Ugh! 1.00

01:42:14.000 Your dick is just raw The first time Did you feel one pump jump the first time? 1.00

01:42:25.000 I just picture your fucking pizza boxes stacking up, Mountain Dew, you just fucking hands open the air, I win! 1.00

01:42:33.000 I fucking win! 1.00

01:42:34.000 With the goggles on. 1.00

01:42:36.000 My chihuahua chewing discarded cum napkins just because it hasn't eaten in days, so it's just trying to get protein from anything.

01:42:46.000 You faintly hear the bark over the... 0.99

01:42:49.000 All the crazy loud 3D porn coming out of the fucking Sennheiser headphones. 1.00

01:42:56.000 Your dog is like... 1.00

01:42:57.000 You just ignore it.

01:42:59.000 Put it... 1.00

01:43:00.000 God damn it. 1.00

01:43:00.000 I can't come with this fucking dog barking. 1.00

01:43:03.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:03.000 You're going to put it back. 1.00

01:43:04.000 Back.

01:43:05.000 That's it.

01:43:06.000 But that is...

01:43:06.000 I mean, that is it.

01:43:08.000 That is it.

01:43:09.000 That's what you're looking at, Matt.

01:43:11.000 Oh, God.

01:43:11.000 Is that crazy?

01:43:13.000 Well, I mean, yeah, Matt.

01:43:15.000 I mean, this is...

01:43:16.000 I'm terrified.

01:43:17.000 Because porn is already...

01:43:19.000 I'm sure that from time to time you occasionally will look upon porn.

01:43:23.000 I imagine you do from time to time.

01:43:26.000 And it's already incredibly engrossing just in 2D space.

01:43:29.000 So when suddenly you find yourself in a room that's not your room with a girl that you've never seen in your life riding you and looking at you like she really loves you and then you look down and it's not your body anymore and that's not your cock and you look back up at this beautiful girl who seems to really like she's known you for a long time it seems like you're in a really good part of your relationship you know what I mean like that's

01:44:00.000 the one that I saw but it's like for a lot of people I think that's going to be real hard to come back from.

01:44:08.000 It's going to be real hard to peel those goggles off and walk into your living room where your wife is passed out on the sofa and maybe your blanket falls down and all the farts that have been held in there from the...

01:44:24.000 Campbell's chunky soup that she ate earlier come wafting up into your face.

01:44:30.000 You know?

01:44:31.000 And you look down at your body and it's just a normal body. 0.73

01:44:35.000 It's not the ripped, tattooed dude who was fucking whoever that girl was and You're gonna, like, have this strange kind of virtual jet lag where you have to accept that the paradigm that you're existing in is not a perfect paradigm.

01:44:51.000 That's gonna be hard for a lot of people to deal with, I think. 0.94

01:44:55.000 That's gonna be a real problem.

01:44:58.000 That's a real problem, man. 1.00

01:44:59.000 I think you're right, and I think the visual aspect of it and just having the robot thing on your dick, that's so crude. 0.99

01:45:06.000 That's like one step. 0.99

01:45:07.000 They're going to figure out a way to tap those ideas directly into your brain.

01:45:12.000 You're going to be able to experience it.

01:45:13.000 You're going to be able to experience it. 0.99

01:45:14.000 I think it's probably going to come in the form, obviously I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about.

01:45:19.000 But if I had a guess, like if I had just random speculation on the future, I think we're gonna find a way to record memories on a device in HD. They're gonna find a way to either do something with the eyes or figure out a way through something you wear to tune in To the reality that you're experiencing from head to toe.

01:45:44.000 Tune it in through a frequency.

01:45:46.000 Record it on some sort of a hard drive, a little tiny flash thing, and we'll have a little flash thing in the back of our head, or who knows, man.

01:45:55.000 Maybe it'll even all just be in the cloud all around you all the time.

01:45:58.000 I think that's more likely.

01:45:59.000 Very likely.

01:46:00.000 And we'll be able to dip into the bank of other people's experiences.

01:46:03.000 We'll have the antenna that'll shoot right into our memory, or right into our mind, or right into our experience center, and boom! 0.91

01:46:12.000 I'm living Duncan Trussell's life.

01:46:14.000 I'm snowboarding as Duncan Trussell.

01:46:16.000 And when I start with it, Jimi Hendrix's manic depression is playing.

01:46:20.000 You wake up snowboarding in your body, listening to Jimi Hendrix, and I'm living your life for the next Hour, two hours that you recorded this and put it up on YouTube.

01:46:32.000 That's what YouTube becomes.

01:46:34.000 YouTube becomes everybody gets to live what you're living.

01:46:37.000 It goes total next level.

01:46:39.000 It makes YouTube today look like cave drawings.

01:46:42.000 They figure out a way to tap deep.

01:46:45.000 Deep into the actual memory itself, even missing your dog, even thinking, when I get home, I'm going to definitely throw out that toilet.

01:46:54.000 All that stuff is going to be in your head.

01:46:56.000 You're going to be all of it recorded.

01:46:58.000 All of it recorded.

01:46:59.000 You're going to be in an ocean of memories, digitally recorded in the cloud.

01:47:03.000 And also, don't forget...

01:47:05.000 Possibly, maybe, suddenly graveyards or preserved brains become reservoirs of old memories.

01:47:13.000 So you might even be able to harvest the memories of the dead.

01:47:17.000 Who knows, if epigenetics, if these memories are being stored or encoded, maybe you could go into the DNA of a mummy.

01:47:26.000 Don't we have Einstein's brain?

01:47:28.000 I hope.

01:47:29.000 Don't they?

01:47:30.000 I don't know.

01:47:31.000 I feel like they preserved Einstein's brain.

01:47:33.000 I think they got it. 0.98

01:47:34.000 Like they were just like doing experiments on it and shit, trying to find out why it's so wacky, strong, super powerful. 0.97

01:47:39.000 Can you imagine that? 0.99

01:47:40.000 Can you imagine that? 0.98

01:47:40.000 Fucking waking Einstein up in a computer and the first thing he's like, wait, where am I? What? 0.98

01:47:46.000 What have you done?

01:47:48.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:47:49.000 What have you fucking assholes done? 1.00

01:47:51.000 Who let you do this? 1.00

01:47:52.000 Yeah.

01:47:53.000 Okay, shut me off.

01:47:54.000 No.

01:47:54.000 I was having a great time.

01:47:56.000 No.

01:47:56.000 I was up in heaven.

01:47:58.000 No, I'm not going to shut you off.

01:47:59.000 I'm going to drop you into World of Warcraft.

01:48:06.000 Now what are you going to do, Einstein? 1.00

01:48:08.000 You better get some magic, bitch. 1.00

01:48:09.000 You better level up. 1.00

01:48:13.000 You better level up.

01:48:15.000 That's going to be weird to think that we're going to be able to resurrect anyone whose DNA still exists and drop them into video games and torture them just for fun.

01:48:25.000 Well that, when you were talking about porn being a real problem, the other thing that's gonna be a real problem is that, video games.

01:48:32.000 Video games are gonna be a crazy problem.

01:48:34.000 Because as awesome as they are now, dude, I get jealous.

01:48:36.000 I was watching this thing on Kim.com.

01:48:38.000 Kim.com was apparently like the number one Call of Duty player in the world at one point.

01:48:43.000 You know who he is, right?

01:48:44.000 He's the guy who runs Mega Upload, and they took all of his money.

01:48:49.000 It's like this crazy thing with America.

01:48:52.000 They're saying he's fleeing justice because he won't come to America, stays in New Zealand.

01:48:57.000 And reports are he's the coolest guy ever. 0.94

01:48:59.000 He seems very very very very very cool and For whatever reason anyway, the point is they should they had this tour of his house and You know he's kind of going over the details of his case But I was watching like his video game rooms got like a room where he plays this fucking game I can't even watch it for a few minutes. 0.84

01:49:15.000 I watch it for a few minutes. 0.96

01:49:16.000 Oh god. 0.93

01:49:17.000 That must be fucking awesome I was like, that must be so awesome to play. 0.87

01:49:19.000 Maybe I'll just get into it. 0.99

01:49:21.000 No, no, I can't fucking do it! 0.98

01:49:23.000 But this is gonna be nothing. 0.98

01:49:24.000 This is almost like a pit stop you don't even have to take.

01:49:26.000 Like, dude, are you this hungry?

01:49:29.000 Because in half an hour, there's a Kentucky Fried Chicken and they got that new double-double.

01:49:33.000 Have you had that?

01:49:34.000 Dude!

01:49:35.000 You know, it's like you pass like... 1.00

01:49:37.000 Mike's shit burgers, you know? 1.00

01:49:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:49:39.000 Just hang on for another half hour. 1.00

01:49:41.000 That's what I feel like.

01:49:42.000 It's like, what they're coming out with with these goggles.

01:49:45.000 Yeah.

01:49:46.000 Sorry, even Carmack said it to me the other day.

01:49:48.000 He asked me if I had been indoctrinated.

01:49:51.000 Oh, I saw that tweet, man.

01:49:52.000 I turned green with jealousy.

01:49:54.000 Carmack's tweeting you?

01:49:55.000 That's incredible, man.

01:49:56.000 I met him a bunch of times, man. 1.00

01:49:58.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:49:59.000 I played Quake against his crew. 1.00

01:50:00.000 That was nuts.

01:50:01.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:50:02.000 It was one of the coolest things ever, dude.

01:50:04.000 He's right about indoctrinated, too, because it is an indoctrination. 0.53

01:50:07.000 And the people who, like, indoctrinate you, like my pal Johnny Ross, when he brought me to this special room to try this VR shit out, he's like, get ready. 0.96

01:50:15.000 Get ready. 0.97

01:50:16.000 This'll change you.

01:50:17.000 This is gonna blow your mind.

01:50:19.000 He's totally right, too, man.

01:50:20.000 Dude, we should fly to Dallas, you and me.

01:50:22.000 We should film it for the show.

01:50:23.000 The show that we're gonna do?

01:50:24.000 We should fly to Dallas and hang out with Carmack.

01:50:26.000 That'd be awesome.

01:50:28.000 He's an intimidatingly intelligent guy.

01:50:30.000 We definitely need to get you to try out the most updated...

01:50:33.000 I'm scared.

01:50:33.000 You need to try it.

01:50:34.000 You gotta try it, man.

01:50:35.000 I'm scared.

01:50:36.000 Of course I'll try it, but I'm scared.

01:50:38.000 Is this the new Magic Leap thing?

01:50:40.000 Yeah, it's a video they put out last week of...

01:50:42.000 This is supposedly what it's gonna look like.

01:50:44.000 Okay, let's see what Magic Leap looks like here.

01:50:46.000 Can the folks at home see some version of this?

01:50:48.000 Yeah.

01:50:48.000 Okay.

01:50:48.000 I'm gonna go pee while it's happening.

01:50:49.000 Make that happen, Duncan.

01:50:52.000 Duncan is healthy.

01:50:53.000 New, healthy, fit Duncan.

01:50:55.000 Keeping it together, Duncan.

01:50:57.000 Oh my god.

01:50:58.000 So this magic leap, it lets holograms appear in front of you and they're spinning, this person in this video is spinning these holograms and moving them around and stretching them and touching them as if they're the interface on a computer.

01:51:16.000 So he's about to play a video game right now in his head. 0.98

01:51:19.000 This is fucking insane. 1.00

01:51:22.000 And he grabs a gun? 1.00

01:51:23.000 Yep.

01:51:23.000 Where does he get that gun?

01:51:24.000 That's a plastic gun, right?

01:51:26.000 Yeah, or it's a visual, virtual.

01:51:27.000 But it can't be virtual because he's holding it in his hand.

01:51:30.000 I think it's virtual.

01:51:31.000 No chance.

01:51:32.000 That's what they're trying to say.

01:51:33.000 That's what they're trying to say?

01:51:35.000 Yeah.

01:51:35.000 I think I'd be...

01:51:36.000 I'd rather have a real gun.

01:51:37.000 Can I just have a real gun?

01:51:38.000 But this is pretty dope.

01:51:39.000 So he's playing video games in his house.

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 He's shooting things that are in his house.

01:51:44.000 This might be the end of the world.

01:51:48.000 Okay, come on, dude. 0.98

01:51:49.000 Who's gonna fucking go outside and play stickball? 0.98

01:51:51.000 Tell me that. 0.99

01:51:53.000 What kid is gonna go play stickball when you can do this? 1.00

01:51:55.000 This is the dopest shit the world has ever seen. 1.00

01:51:59.000 Oh my god, man. 1.00

01:52:01.000 Oh my god, you're getting attacked by a robot.

01:52:02.000 This is terrifying.

01:52:05.000 Can you hear the guy scream? 1.00

01:52:07.000 Oh shit, he's literally out of breath. 1.00

01:52:10.000 Kids are going to get in shape. 1.00

01:52:11.000 We're going to develop super warriors because they're going to be constantly running around playing video games on one of those omnidirectional treadmills.

01:52:19.000 Yeah.

01:52:19.000 This is insane, man.

01:52:21.000 We haven't seen Black Mirror yet, but a lot of the stuff you guys were just talking about.

01:52:24.000 They talked about it all?

01:52:25.000 Yeah.

01:52:26.000 On the new episode?

01:52:26.000 I'm not going to spoil it.

01:52:27.000 Don't spoil it because everybody told me that the new episode is insanely good.

01:52:32.000 You got to see it.

01:52:33.000 Almost everything you and Duncan just talked about.

01:52:34.000 Of course. 1.00

01:52:35.000 It's all on these shit episodes. 1.00

01:52:36.000 Of course. 0.99

01:52:37.000 Have you seen the new episode of, what is it called again?

01:52:40.000 Black Mirror?

01:52:41.000 No.

01:52:41.000 Have you seen it?

01:52:41.000 I've seen one episode of that show and I liked it.

01:52:44.000 It was weird. 1.00

01:52:44.000 It was the pig fucking episode. 1.00

01:52:46.000 That's the only one I've seen. 1.00

01:52:47.000 Yeah, that was good. 0.99

01:52:48.000 Whoa, it's like, what kind of a crazy fucking show is this? 0.97

01:52:50.000 I mean, that was a really interesting dilemma that guy was facing. 0.98

01:52:55.000 Yeah, that was a fascinating show.

01:52:58.000 But the new one is supposed to be awesome and deals with a lot of the stuff that we just talked about.

01:53:02.000 There's a bunch of people that are aware that we're in some weird space.

01:53:05.000 We just showed the games that you play on Magic Leap.

01:53:08.000 Have you seen it?

01:53:09.000 Where you just shoot the people in your living room.

01:53:11.000 You've got robots coming after you. 0.99

01:53:12.000 It's insane.

01:53:13.000 Insanely cool.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, that's right, man.

01:53:16.000 That stuff is really cool.

01:53:17.000 That's the data visualization, you know?

01:53:20.000 That's the idea that we're sort of surrounded by this mist of data and that technology is going to visualize it in all these new ways.

01:53:26.000 Like, currently, the way it's visualized is in 2D on the screen in our pockets.

01:53:30.000 Yeah.

01:53:31.000 But the idea of, like, you know, just cool shit, like, as you're driving, your tweets, or any tweets that you come flying into your car, or, you know, tweets will become 3D things floating around people, or My friend Pemberton says it's all going to be...

01:53:49.000 Johnny Pemberton, funny guy.

01:53:50.000 He says that it's going to be like credit is going to become the new form of elitism and that in your augmented reality land your credit score can float around you. 0.99

01:54:00.000 You know that kind of shit. 0.98

01:54:02.000 It's going to be weird because the way that people build themselves up... 1.00

01:54:07.000 In augmented reality, it's going to be hilarious.

01:54:10.000 The trophies you wear, little augmented reality medals that you wear.

01:54:14.000 You know what's a big deal for people?

01:54:17.000 My Twitter followers.

01:54:19.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:20.000 People are really into that.

01:54:21.000 The number of Twitter followers you have is some kind of indication of your fame. 0.98

01:54:26.000 So that kind of shit, people are going to figure out ways to To wear it in augmented reality space in kind of subtle ways, but ways that people can see it. 0.97

01:54:34.000 It used to be if you wanted to brag about your success, the way you would visualize it was by wearing gold. 0.99

01:54:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:41.000 People still do it. 0.99

01:54:43.000 They want to subtly say, I'm a rich motherfucker by showing you their gold watch or gold chains. 0.98

01:54:50.000 It's like, see, I'm actually wearing a rare metal. 0.98

01:54:53.000 That's because I'm doing good.

01:54:55.000 Recognize it. 0.98

01:54:56.000 But the new way of doing that is going to be, you know, shit that really is more relevant, which is like, you know... 0.97

01:55:04.000 Well, what are you going to look like in that virtual world? 0.98

01:55:06.000 I mean, if it's predicated on how much money you have.

01:55:09.000 Like, what if you look like that Persian guy from 300? 0.91

01:55:13.000 That giant guy?

01:55:14.000 What was his name?

01:55:15.000 Xerxes?

01:55:16.000 Xerxes?

01:55:16.000 Yeah.

01:55:16.000 How about that shit, son?

01:55:18.000 That's when you're super balling. 1.00

01:55:19.000 You're ten feet tall.

01:55:20.000 Ten foot tall Persian dude with cool earrings.

01:55:22.000 But you can only look like that if you've got a 700 credit score and have a Citibank card.

01:55:26.000 Yeah, but you can look like that if you have a 700 credit score and a Citibank card.

01:55:30.000 You can look like that.

01:55:31.000 Yeah.

01:55:31.000 That's something to aspire to, Duncan.

01:55:33.000 Yeah.

01:55:33.000 Feed the machine, Duncan.

01:55:35.000 Because it's like, think of the, what's that stupid thing that people get really into? 1.00

01:55:38.000 The Black American Express. 1.00

01:55:40.000 Ooh.

01:55:41.000 He's got the black card. 1.00

01:55:42.000 But it's like things like that, like stupid, stupid ways that we try to like, the stupid tail feathers that you try to throw. 1.00

01:55:48.000 Do you not understand? 1.00

01:55:48.000 He's a baller, Duncan Trussell. 1.00

01:55:50.000 He's got a black, or the like, you know, there's just so many ways that people try to, or the new Apple Watch.

01:55:57.000 And if you want, you can get one for $19,000 with a gold chain.

01:56:02.000 And then like you can go around and show everybody, look, I'm loaded.

01:56:07.000 I think it's 10 grand.

01:56:08.000 10 grand.

01:56:09.000 For the super expensive one.

01:56:10.000 10 grand.

01:56:11.000 Something like that?

01:56:11.000 It's crazy.

01:56:12.000 But still, it's very funny the way we try to indicate our worth or value is through a rare metal.

01:56:19.000 What really indicates a person's value these days is not so much like, can you afford to wear rare metal?

01:56:27.000 It's a lot of other stuff that goes into it, you know?

01:56:30.000 It's not just the jewels that you wear.

01:56:31.000 Or, you know, like, that's a thing, you give your girlfriend a diamond.

01:56:35.000 And then they wear it.

01:56:39.000 It's a boring cliche in movies where it's like, ooh, he got you a giant diamond!

01:56:45.000 And it's a big deal.

01:56:48.000 It's just so funny.

01:56:50.000 Those things are going to be outdated with augmented reality.

01:56:53.000 It's going to be certain add-ons to your physical form that you can only obtain via shit-tons of money or some other social...

01:57:03.000 Online standing, which demonstrates your worth in the cloud.

01:57:07.000 So for now, embrace the physical reality. 1.00

01:57:11.000 Enjoy the shit out of cheeseburgers and milkshakes and sex. 0.99

01:57:15.000 You know, just have a good time. 0.99

01:57:18.000 Give a lot of hugs out, because it's gonna get real virtual.

01:57:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:57:22.000 Real quick.

01:57:22.000 Yeah, it's coming.

01:57:24.000 Get all the reality stuff out while you can.

01:57:26.000 That's right.

01:57:26.000 Within a hundred years, it's not gonna be here.

01:57:28.000 We're all gonna be living inside a cloud.

01:57:30.000 10 years.

01:57:32.000 I'd say 10 years and we're all using some form of augmented reality technology.

01:57:38.000 But all these people, man, when you ask them, the people who are really in the know about this, when you ask them, what do you predict in 10 years, they're like, forget it, man.

01:57:50.000 You want me to tell you What things are gonna look like when they're five times as fast as they are now?

01:57:57.000 That's what you want me to tell you?

01:57:58.000 You want me to predict what kind of innovations come from an Apple computer five times as fast as the fastest Apple computer on planet Earth?

01:58:06.000 I can't do that.

01:58:08.000 It's impossible to guess.

01:58:09.000 We don't know. 0.99

01:58:11.000 It's a big fucking question mark. 0.99

01:58:13.000 Especially when you start talking about decades. 0.99

01:58:15.000 Yeah, can't do it.

01:58:17.000 Two decades?

01:58:18.000 Yeah, go back in time ten years and predict this.

01:58:23.000 How accurately would you have predicted some of the things happening right now?

01:58:29.000 You wouldn't have predicted Uber.

01:58:31.000 You wouldn't have predicted most things.

01:58:33.000 Who would have predicted podcasts?

01:58:36.000 Let's go there.

01:58:37.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:37.000 That's right.

01:58:38.000 Do you remember that Christian Slater movie where he was the rebel that was broadcasting the pirate radio show?

01:58:44.000 Do you remember that?

01:58:44.000 He had to run and hide.

01:58:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:58:46.000 He was broadcasting pirate radio.

01:58:49.000 That's hilarious.

01:58:49.000 I forgot about that.

01:58:51.000 That's so funny.

01:58:52.000 I'm going to have to watch that today.

01:58:53.000 Tie it up, man. 0.99

01:58:55.000 Tie it's fucking going to play you the cool songs, not that fucking Jessie's Girl bullshit that you're listening to. 0.99

01:59:02.000 I know I wish that I had Jessie. 0.99

01:59:04.000 Meanwhile, Jessie's girl is a badass jam. 1.00

01:59:06.000 You know?

01:59:07.000 Maybe Christian Slater just has obscure taste.

01:59:10.000 He doesn't have to shove it down her throat. 1.00

01:59:11.000 What he needs to do is buy a goddamn radio license like everybody else. 1.00

01:59:14.000 Set up a business. 1.00

01:59:16.000 Terrestrial radio!

01:59:17.000 Terrestrial radio.

01:59:18.000 Terrestrial radio.

01:59:19.000 With the government.

01:59:19.000 He needs to get it.

01:59:20.000 Why doesn't he do that?

01:59:21.000 Why does he have to be a pirate?

01:59:23.000 He needs to get licensed.

01:59:24.000 Get licensed.

01:59:25.000 Pay the government their due.

01:59:27.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:59:27.000 You criminal. 0.98

01:59:29.000 Broadcasting music through the sky without a license. 1.00

01:59:32.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

01:59:33.000 He had a fucking dangerous situation. 1.00

01:59:36.000 He was running from the cops, but it was more important to him to continue broadcasting shitty music over the forbidden skies to fight the power that it was to stay free. 0.99

01:59:46.000 He was gonna take chances.

01:59:47.000 He was so beautiful.

01:59:49.000 He had great bone structure.

01:59:50.000 Such a cute man with a sort of young Jack Nicholson thing going on.

01:59:54.000 Oh, look, there he is.

01:59:55.000 Broadcasting from his car.

01:59:57.000 Pump up the volume.

01:59:58.000 Dude.

01:59:59.000 Come on, son.

02:00:00.000 The first podcaster.

02:00:02.000 Pump up the volume.

02:00:03.000 He was the first podcaster.

02:00:04.000 He was driving around, yelling at people, the sky's falling. 0.98

02:00:08.000 And they were like, God damn it, we're so glad you're here. 0.97

02:00:10.000 Look at the real, it's so funny. 0.98

02:00:12.000 The idea that some young guy, too, it's always great.

02:00:15.000 Like, some young guy who gets it, and there's like these older people that just don't get it.

02:00:19.000 You remember how annoying this dude would be in real life?

02:00:21.000 Some young guy driving down the street, the government is stealing!

02:00:25.000 Taxes are stealing! 1.00

02:00:27.000 Ugh, this fucking guy. 1.00

02:00:29.000 I don't know what he was protesting about. 1.00

02:00:31.000 What was he protesting about?

02:00:32.000 Wanted to play the Smiths?

02:00:39.000 I need to! 1.00

02:00:41.000 I need to educate you people on good fucking music! 1.00

02:00:44.000 Come over our house! 1.00

02:00:46.000 Let's play vinyl!

02:00:47.000 Dude, I remember that movie. 0.99

02:00:48.000 I thought he was the coolest fucking guy ever. 0.98

02:00:50.000 I thought he was the coolest guy ever. 0.99

02:00:51.000 Yeah.

02:00:52.000 Girls would love him.

02:00:53.000 Why can't I be him?

02:00:54.000 I wish I was a rebel.

02:00:56.000 God, man.

02:00:57.000 Could watch those movies?

02:00:57.000 Those guys would be so perfect.

02:00:59.000 God, I wish I could be like John Cusack and say anything.

02:01:02.000 Just stand there with that boombox in my head and get the girl back. 0.91

02:01:05.000 Or what's his name?

02:01:06.000 What about Footloose?

02:01:08.000 Remember Footloose?

02:01:09.000 Yes, I wish I was so free that I could come to some small town and dance and still try to pick up girls and pretend that I'm not gay.

02:01:16.000 I'm just showing up dancing. 1.00

02:01:17.000 Who the fuck is dancing? 1.00

02:01:18.000 Kevin Bacon, that's who, bitch. 1.00

02:01:20.000 Shows up. 1.00

02:01:20.000 He's got fucking moves. 1.00

02:01:21.000 He's been practicing. 1.00

02:01:22.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:01:23.000 What? 1.00

02:01:24.000 How come you haven't been doing man-type shit, son? 1.00

02:01:26.000 How come you haven't... 1.00

02:01:27.000 He just shows up, hanging around barns and shit, bleeding, dancing, and they overthrow the old fuddy-duddies. 0.99

02:01:34.000 That's right. 1.00

02:01:35.000 The fucking preacher had the sluttiest daughter, remember? 1.00

02:01:38.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:39.000 Preacher's daughter, he was banging her. 1.00

02:01:40.000 She was all upset.

02:01:41.000 Classic.

02:01:42.000 Classic.

02:01:44.000 I guess that's what the singularity is, right?

02:01:46.000 It's just Kevin Bacon coming to our dimension and, like, teaching us all how to overcome the oppression of old power structures.

02:01:54.000 We're just in Footloose.

02:01:56.000 With a fancy two-step.

02:01:59.000 Fixes everything.

02:02:00.000 And Kenny Loggins songs.

02:02:02.000 God, I heard that song the other day.

02:02:04.000 Footloose. 0.99

02:02:05.000 Well, how about there's fucking geniuses that remade that movie? 0.99

02:02:09.000 How about that? 0.99

02:02:10.000 How about someone sat around, they remade it.

02:02:12.000 Oh, they already did?

02:02:13.000 They did.

02:02:13.000 They already did it.

02:02:14.000 Yeah, someone watched Footloose and goes, God damn. 0.99

02:02:17.000 We need to do this again. 0.98

02:02:20.000 First of all, how come they haven't done that with Roadhouse?

02:02:23.000 Okay?

02:02:26.000 You know what they need to do?

02:02:28.000 That dude from the HBO show, Danny McBride?

02:02:32.000 You know Danny, that hilarious dude?

02:02:33.000 Oh yeah, man, totally.

02:02:35.000 He needs to do Roadhouse.

02:02:36.000 That'd be amazing.

02:02:37.000 Do his version of Roadhouse.

02:02:38.000 He needs to do anything.

02:02:39.000 That's one of the funniest people ever.

02:02:41.000 If he did a real, if they did the exact same script, exactly the way it happened, I bet it would be one of the funniest movies of all time.

02:02:48.000 It'd be so funny.

02:02:49.000 It'd be incredible.

02:02:50.000 You should pitch that to him before I do it.

02:02:53.000 Danny McBride and for that Sam guy with the thick mustache, Danny Trio.

02:02:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:00.000 I'm a casting agent.

02:03:01.000 Yeah, you could do that.

02:03:03.000 That would be an amazing movie, man.

02:03:05.000 Who wouldn't? 1.00

02:03:06.000 That's a great goddamn fucking movie. 1.00

02:03:07.000 Yeah, that'd be incredible. 1.00

02:03:08.000 Danny McBride as Patrick Swayze and Danny Trio as that Sam dude.

02:03:12.000 So funny.

02:03:13.000 What's his name?

02:03:13.000 Sam...

02:03:15.000 What is his name? 0.99

02:03:16.000 Goddammit. 0.99

02:03:17.000 The guy who does the truck commercials.

02:03:18.000 Ram trucks.

02:03:20.000 Ram tough.

02:03:21.000 Doesn't he do a ram commercial?

02:03:22.000 I'm not sure you mean.

02:03:23.000 I'm confused.

02:03:23.000 I thought you were talking about the guy who used to be in jail.

02:03:27.000 Yeah, but I'm talking about the guy in the Roadhouse movie.

02:03:30.000 In the Roadhouse movie, what is his name?

02:03:33.000 Sam Elliott.

02:03:33.000 That's right.

02:03:34.000 You know who Sam Elliott is, son.

02:03:35.000 How dare you?

02:03:37.000 You know who Sam Elliott is, right?

02:03:39.000 No, I almost want to lie and say I do.

02:03:42.000 I'm embarrassed.

02:03:43.000 I'm looking it up right now.

02:03:44.000 I'll pull it up for you.

02:03:45.000 There he is.

02:03:45.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:46.000 Of course.

02:03:47.000 You know who that guy is, right?

02:03:48.000 Of course.

02:03:49.000 So, in the Danny McBride version, that guy is played by Danny Trio.

02:03:53.000 Oh, that's cool. 0.99

02:03:54.000 Because he's a guy that gets jacked, and then, I don't want to, spoiler alert, Roadhouse, but he's a guy that gets jacked, and then the Patrick Swayze guy has to go in and kick some ass. 0.99

02:04:05.000 So who plays the badass dude? 0.99

02:04:07.000 Who plays this guy?

02:04:10.000 There's some other guys.

02:04:12.000 Back up real quick.

02:04:13.000 I want to show the guys that they would fight with.

02:04:16.000 There's some other dudes, right?

02:04:19.000 That's just all pictures of him.

02:04:20.000 That's not necessarily all Roadhouse.

02:04:22.000 But there was a guy who was the number one karate guy that Patrick Swayze had to fight.

02:04:28.000 Excuse me.

02:04:29.000 The guy at the end where he kills him.

02:04:31.000 Remember that?

02:04:32.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 That was the guy they brought in.

02:04:33.000 The fucking super badass guy. 0.99

02:04:35.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:04:36.000 Who plays him?

02:04:37.000 That guy?

02:04:38.000 Yes.

02:04:39.000 I vote for Mario Lopez.

02:04:41.000 There you go.

02:04:42.000 Perfect.

02:04:43.000 Yep.

02:04:43.000 Handsome.

02:04:44.000 Beautiful.

02:04:45.000 Have you seen the- Can act.

02:04:46.000 Can box.

02:04:47.000 Have you seen the fist foot way?

02:04:49.000 Of course I have. 0.99

02:04:50.000 So fucking good. 0.94

02:04:53.000 That guy's genius, man. 0.99

02:04:54.000 He's genius. 0.99

02:04:55.000 He's just funny as shit, all times. 0.99

02:04:57.000 He is so funny. 0.99

02:04:59.000 Did you see that movie, The End, or This Is The End, whatever the one it was, with James Franco and Seth Rogen?

02:05:03.000 No, I haven't seen that.

02:05:04.000 I'm glad you're in mind, but I gotta see that. 0.98

02:05:05.000 Holy shit, is he funny in that movie. 0.99

02:05:07.000 Holy shit, is he funny in that movie. 1.00

02:05:09.000 That might be his funniest role ever, and I'm not bullshitting. 0.99

02:05:13.000 I hate when people say that, and I said it anyway.

02:05:14.000 Can't wait to watch it.

02:05:15.000 And I'm not bullshitting. 0.97

02:05:16.000 Maybe sometimes I bullshit, but not now. 0.95

02:05:18.000 I gotta go soon. 0.96

02:05:19.000 I do too.

02:05:21.000 What a crappy way to end the podcast.

02:05:23.000 I'm sorry.

02:05:24.000 There's no good way to end these things.

02:05:26.000 Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen.

02:05:28.000 There's no good way to end these things.

02:05:30.000 They're too fun.

02:05:31.000 Right.

02:05:32.000 We were too high starting out.

02:05:33.000 I was at least.

02:05:34.000 I was a little on the high side. 0.98

02:05:36.000 Goddamn, I was tumbling. 0.96

02:05:37.000 Because I had a point, but we were both so energetic and so energized to say, but I had a point about super left-wing people, and I totally lost it in mid-thought. 0.98

02:05:46.000 Oh, right.

02:05:47.000 I don't know where it went.

02:05:49.000 I think you did a pretty good job talking about how they disguise their aggression in the clothes of whatever the thing is they're doing.

02:05:58.000 Some people are going to use symbol structures to try to make the world a better place, and some people are going to use symbol structures to punch you with.

02:06:05.000 It's like somebody who's putting on a boxing glove that's like...

02:06:11.000 It's like a velvet glove.

02:06:12.000 It's like someone punching you with velvet.

02:06:13.000 They're still punching me. 0.99

02:06:15.000 That's why it feels like shit when you get around people who are inflicting their aggression on you with some kind of... 0.98

02:06:20.000 I think it's ultimately a good lesson, though. 0.98

02:06:22.000 It's ultimately a lesson that there's no real one ideology that's got it nailed.

02:06:28.000 And you're gonna have weirdos in every single group.

02:06:31.000 And the real thing that we have to all sort of come to some sort of an agreement on is that we're all part of this organism, right?

02:06:37.000 That's what we keep getting to.

02:06:39.000 The only way to fix this thing is if we all really do have some sort of ultimate power, like if technology continues to exponentially increase to the point where the average person can just hit the universe reset switch, there's too much power.

02:06:51.000 It becomes some crazy...

02:06:56.000 Singularity moment where the average person has weight you mean the power that you have on your phone is so Indescribable to someone who lives in ancient Rome.

02:07:04.000 It's all it's indescribable And if it continues that way and somehow or another the cat gets out of the bag and they invent some way To literally everybody has the power to stop life as we know it at any given time.

02:07:16.000 Yeah, and That's the only way everybody looks at everybody as just as important as them.

02:07:22.000 It's really almost the only way to cure the disease that is the craziness of humanity.

02:07:26.000 The craziness of humanity is like this weird thing where...

02:07:31.000 Two human beings can either be madly in love or the best of friends or so appreciative of each other or at each other's throats trying to kill each other with their fingers.

02:07:45.000 Like trying to hit each other in the head with rocks fighting.

02:07:48.000 It could easily happen one way or the other.

02:07:52.000 And the amount of times that it happens the right way is incredible.

02:07:56.000 If you look at the numbers that we're dealing with, 300-plus million people in this country, the amount of kindness and the amount of happiness is off the charts.

02:08:06.000 They're just not salacious.

02:08:08.000 It doesn't draw us in.

02:08:09.000 It doesn't scare us so we don't focus on it.

02:08:12.000 And by not focusing on it and instead focusing on fear or focusing on hate or focusing on blame, we sort of perpetrate it.

02:08:21.000 And the more people could focus on figuring out a way to just interface as nicely with all the people around you as possible, as friendly and easily with all the people around you as possible, the more you can figure out a way to do that,

02:08:37.000 the better off the whole planet is.

02:08:40.000 It'll ripple.

02:08:41.000 And there's going to be people that violate it.

02:08:43.000 There's going to be people that don't play along. 0.99

02:08:44.000 There's going to be people that try to exploit it and fuck the... 1.00

02:08:47.000 It doesn't matter, man. 0.99

02:08:48.000 Eventually we'll figure that out.

02:08:50.000 Yes.

02:08:50.000 Eventually we'll overwhelm that.

02:08:51.000 There's a new ethic.

02:08:53.000 And the new ethic is brought about by this way that we communicate now.

02:08:58.000 That's right.

02:08:58.000 That doesn't exist before.

02:08:59.000 And I think also you have to become a person of action.

02:09:05.000 Like your friend you're talking about is like...

02:09:08.000 Who's helping people get water in the Congo?

02:09:10.000 Dude.

02:09:10.000 Anyone listening can become that guy.

02:09:12.000 Anyone listening right now can start taking steps in the direction of doing that.

02:09:18.000 And if you don't have time, go to Fight for the Forgotten.

02:09:20.000 Just Google Fight for the Forgotten.

02:09:22.000 I think it's fightfortheforgotten.org. 0.98

02:09:24.000 I'll pull it up right now, because he's cool as fuck. 0.97

02:09:26.000 What? 0.98

02:09:28.000 I didn't say anything.

02:09:29.000 I thought Jamie did.

02:09:31.000 Didn't.

02:09:32.000 I think it's fightfortheforgotten.com.

02:09:34.000 Yes, it is.

02:09:35.000 It's fightfortheforgotten.com.

02:09:37.000 One word, fightfortheforgotten.com.

02:09:39.000 It's just a genuine, real cool guy.

02:09:42.000 A real sweet guy.

02:09:44.000 And, you know, I mean, he kind of throws into the face the idea that a lot of people have about MMA fighters, too.

02:09:50.000 They think they're brutes and, you know, mean people.

02:09:52.000 He couldn't be kinder. 0.96

02:09:54.000 I mean, look at this picture of him hanging out with these pygmies. 1.00

02:09:56.000 Oh, wow.

02:09:57.000 The dude is as real as they come.

02:09:58.000 He's as real as they come.

02:10:00.000 I just love that guy.

02:10:01.000 I love that guys like that exist.

02:10:04.000 We live in a cool time, man.

02:10:07.000 We live in a cool time.

02:10:09.000 Can I make an announcement?

02:10:13.000 Yes.

02:10:14.000 I'm going to be at the Improv doing a live podcast recording on April 18th.

02:10:20.000 The Improv where?

02:10:21.000 Here.

02:10:21.000 Oh, my.

02:10:22.000 Live podcast recording.

02:10:23.000 Los Angeles, California.

02:10:23.000 The Los Angeles Improv.

02:10:25.000 Oh my God, Duncan Trussell.

02:10:26.000 Live podcast with Daniele Bolelli.

02:10:28.000 Oh my Jesus God, man.

02:10:30.000 Working on a third guest.

02:10:31.000 I don't know.

02:10:33.000 The 18th?

02:10:34.000 What day is that?

02:10:35.000 That is the Saturday night.

02:10:37.000 I guess it is.

02:10:38.000 It might be off on the date.

02:10:39.000 I think it's the 18th or the 19th, but you can look on my website.

02:10:42.000 There's a Saturday, April 18th.

02:10:45.000 Here, let me look.

02:10:46.000 2015. I'll tell you right now.

02:10:47.000 It's on my website.

02:10:49.000 I'm doing a lot of live podcasts coming up.

02:10:51.000 You love those.

02:10:52.000 It is so fun, man.

02:10:53.000 It is so fun to do.

02:10:55.000 It really is a blast.

02:10:56.000 You like it almost as much as you like stand-up.

02:10:58.000 Yes.

02:10:58.000 That's awesome.

02:10:59.000 Yes, I do.

02:10:59.000 I do.

02:11:00.000 Well, just because it's like...

02:11:03.000 It's a lot longer than a stand-up show.

02:11:05.000 These things always end up being a lot longer, and there's just more...

02:11:08.000 I don't know, man.

02:11:09.000 I like connecting with people out there, and it's a new medium.

02:11:13.000 It's like a new medium, and it's fun to play around with it and see the best way to do it and what works and what doesn't work.

02:11:19.000 It is...

02:11:20.000 Hollywood is on the...

02:11:21.000 Hold on.

02:11:22.000 The 18th.

02:11:23.000 Yeah, that's the 18th with Daniele Bolelli.

02:11:26.000 And I don't know, I'm working on the other guest right now.

02:11:29.000 I'm still putting the show together.

02:11:31.000 But yeah, a lot of cool live podcasts coming up.

02:11:34.000 Like in Arlington and Cambridge, Philadelphia, and the ones in Brooklyn are sold out.

02:11:38.000 DuncanTrestle.com sold out in Brooklyn, son.

02:11:44.000 I love you!

02:11:47.000 We love you, Duncan.

02:11:49.000 Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that's it for this day of fun and podcasting.

02:11:54.000 Thanks to Dr. Andrew Hill, who was my first guest, and thanks to Duncan Trussell.

02:11:58.000 I'll be right back with Azzy.

02:12:00.000 You don't necessarily have to listen to.

02:12:01.000 Bye!

02:12:02.000 Much love.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 24, 2015

Joe Rogan Experience #630 - Duncan Trussell

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