The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #671 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

00:00:00.000 I would argue.

00:00:00.000 I agree.

00:00:01.000 And I think you'd end up just losing your mind.

00:00:04.000 That's it.

00:00:05.000 We're going live.

00:00:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah!

00:00:10.000 Ladies and motherfucking gentlemen. 0.99

00:00:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:14.000 What's up, boys?

00:00:14.000 What's up, man?

00:00:15.000 We're live.

00:00:16.000 It's good to be here. 1.00

00:00:16.000 Now other people can hear all the shit we've been saying. 1.00

00:00:18.000 Right? 0.99

00:00:18.000 It's hard to make the transition. 0.99

00:00:21.000 We'll do it live! 1.00

00:00:21.000 Fuck it! 1.00

00:00:22.000 We'll do it live! 1.00

00:00:23.000 Fuck it! 1.00

00:00:23.000 We'll do it live! 1.00

00:00:23.000 Fuck it! 1.00

00:00:23.000 We'll do it live! 1.00

00:00:24.000 To go from...

00:00:25.000 Love that part.

00:00:26.000 Yeah, that's...

00:00:27.000 The best.

00:00:27.000 What was that hard copy or something like that he was on?

00:00:30.000 Bill O'Reilly?

00:00:31.000 You're just freaking out. 0.99

00:00:32.000 That guy's such a blowhard. 0.97

00:00:33.000 It's so amazing that that guy's popular. 0.97

00:00:35.000 Not anymore, though, right?

00:00:36.000 No, he's kind of dying down the path.

00:00:38.000 I know.

00:00:39.000 Maybe with guys like you, but you weren't watching in the first place.

00:00:41.000 If you're an old lady, if you're post-menopausal old lady... 1.00

00:00:44.000 You're into Bill O'Reilly?

00:00:45.000 Yes.

00:00:46.000 Yeah.

00:00:47.000 No, he's very...

00:00:47.000 That's his crowd.

00:00:48.000 He's really easy.

00:00:49.000 He creates...

00:00:50.000 He's like a sharp profile, right?

00:00:52.000 So he'll make the issues really cut and dry and really loud.

00:00:56.000 And here are the lines.

00:00:57.000 The tie goes in, the tie goes out.

00:00:58.000 You can explain that.

00:00:59.000 There you go.

00:01:00.000 It's God.

00:01:01.000 I'm putting my money on God.

00:01:03.000 I read two of his books and I read two of Ann Coulter's books to see what they were saying.

00:01:07.000 It was really interesting because I know why they're popular.

00:01:10.000 If you package something...

00:01:12.000 In terms of good guys, bad guys.

00:01:16.000 You wrote a book called Who's Looking Out For You.

00:01:17.000 It was kind of an interesting book.

00:01:18.000 He was very real about saying, look, I run in a circle of people that are really wealthy and powerful.

00:01:24.000 Guess what?

00:01:25.000 They don't really care about you because that's how human beings are when they have a lot of stuff going on.

00:01:30.000 Isn't Donald Trump saying similar stuff?

00:01:32.000 A little bit.

00:01:33.000 Your boy Donald Trump's kind of flying off the hinges.

00:01:35.000 Definitely not my boy.

00:01:36.000 Well, yeah, he is.

00:01:37.000 He's your best friend.

00:01:37.000 I think he's just saying it for, like, X Factor.

00:01:40.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:01:40.000 Like, he's just trying to stand out.

00:01:42.000 He's wild as fuck. 1.00

00:01:43.000 Yeah, he's an egomaniac. 1.00

00:01:44.000 When my buddy Jimmy Burke met Donald Trump, he said, Donald, huge fan, huge fan of your buildings.

00:01:50.000 I think your buildings are amazing, dude.

00:01:52.000 And I love your tie.

00:01:55.000 What did Donald say?

00:01:56.000 Donald just kind of looked at Teddy Demi at the time, who was the director of the late Teddy Demi, and just went, okay, thanks.

00:02:02.000 And he goes, but look at your tie!

00:02:03.000 He kept saying your tie! 0.99

00:02:05.000 So many sponsors have dropped him, so many, after you made those comments about Mexicans and rape. 1.00

00:02:10.000 Yeah, he's an a-hole. 1.00

00:02:11.000 He's retarded. 1.00

00:02:12.000 And Anderson Cooper was like, you know, financially, how much money have you lost? 0.91

00:02:16.000 He goes, I don't know, I'm rich, I really don't care.

00:02:18.000 I just don't care.

00:02:20.000 Merv Griffin, I did a show with him once, and Merv Griffin was insanely rich, as we know, and he was also an artist. 0.94

00:02:31.000 He wrote the theme song to Jeopardy and weird shit. 0.59

00:02:34.000 Do you know who Merv Griffin is? 0.99

00:02:36.000 You might be a little young.

00:02:37.000 I don't know who he is.

00:02:38.000 He wrote the theme song to a bunch of different shows.

00:02:43.000 And when you do that, it's a slick move.

00:02:45.000 You get paid every time it plays.

00:02:48.000 That's dope. 0.93

00:02:48.000 And there are a lot of examples of those kind of things that he did. 0.93

00:02:51.000 He could play the piano and everything, but he was also a major mogul, like a tycoon.

00:02:55.000 And wealthier than Donald Trump. 0.98

00:02:57.000 And ferociously gay. 1.00

00:02:59.000 Ferociously. 0.99

00:03:01.000 Ferociously.

00:03:01.000 I met him.

00:03:02.000 Yeah, so ferociously gay. 1.00

00:03:04.000 I did a show with his company. 0.99

00:03:06.000 Try to grab him a hug?

00:03:07.000 No, he was very friendly, but there's a look in his eyes like, the door's always open.

00:03:11.000 Oh, dude.

00:03:12.000 The door's always open. 1.00

00:03:14.000 Ferociously gay. 1.00

00:03:16.000 100%. 0.99

00:03:16.000 He's just like a guy. 0.99

00:03:17.000 I spent a week with him.

00:03:19.000 Hold on.

00:03:21.000 Did he stop?

00:03:23.000 Were you wearing flip-flops?

00:03:26.000 Did he massage your feet?

00:03:27.000 Honestly, I spent a lot of time blindfolded.

00:03:28.000 I can't remember.

00:03:30.000 I can't remember a lot of that.

00:03:33.000 But he was like my dad and an uncle at the same time.

00:03:35.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:03:36.000 Bill Cosby was there?

00:03:37.000 Yeah.

00:03:38.000 And I said, how do you run this empire?

00:03:42.000 Because he's the one who found Ryan Seacrest and put him on.

00:03:46.000 He owns all these companies.

00:03:47.000 Did he really?

00:03:48.000 Yes.

00:03:49.000 On the radio.

00:03:50.000 I did Ryan's show way back when he was on the radio.

00:03:53.000 Right.

00:03:54.000 He still does radio!

00:03:55.000 Yes, he does. 1.00

00:03:55.000 Ryan Seacrest has a hundred million dollars and that motherfucker gets up every morning and does the radio from 6 to 9 a.m. 1.00

00:04:00.000 Crazy work ethic. 1.00

00:04:01.000 Crazy work ethic.

00:04:02.000 And if you listen to it, it's almost like they're not human.

00:04:05.000 Yeah.

00:04:05.000 It's like the people that call aren't human and he's not human.

00:04:08.000 It's like a totally different species.

00:04:10.000 He's so non-threatening.

00:04:11.000 Exactly.

00:04:12.000 He's so, you know...

00:04:13.000 What's your favorite color?

00:04:15.000 He's another guy.

00:04:16.000 I like blue.

00:04:17.000 Alright, blue's great.

00:04:19.000 Next caller.

00:04:20.000 What's your favorite color?

00:04:22.000 It's so weird.

00:04:24.000 There's no man in him.

00:04:25.000 Yeah, it's just all robot.

00:04:26.000 Hey, it's Jamie from California.

00:04:29.000 What's your favorite food?

00:04:31.000 That's how it is, right?

00:04:31.000 There's no man in him.

00:04:32.000 He's another guy I spent a week with, always in a suit. 1.00

00:04:35.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:04:36.000 When did he spend time with you guys? 0.99

00:04:37.000 Ryan Seacrest.

00:04:37.000 I worked sort of for him.

00:04:40.000 I did this TV show that I hosted...

00:04:42.000 It was called Bank of Hollywood.

00:04:44.000 I don't want to talk about it.

00:04:45.000 Always in a suit.

00:04:45.000 He was always in a suit.

00:04:47.000 Expensive one, too, right?

00:04:49.000 Yes.

00:04:49.000 He looked good.

00:04:50.000 He's a small guy, very small, about 135 pounds.

00:04:53.000 135?

00:04:54.000 About.

00:04:54.000 I did his show when he had a talk show.

00:04:56.000 I didn't think he was that light.

00:04:58.000 I think you're exaggerating.

00:04:59.000 No.

00:04:59.000 5'7", 135, I'd give him.

00:05:01.000 Come on.

00:05:01.000 I took him in.

00:05:02.000 You know me.

00:05:02.000 You did spend a week with him.

00:05:03.000 Why spend so long with him?

00:05:04.000 You know how I take a man in.

00:05:05.000 I'll take a man in, visually and even physically. 0.96

00:05:08.000 It's too much.

00:05:08.000 Yeah.

00:05:09.000 I'm pretty good at that stuff.

00:05:10.000 And he ended up, um, he ended up, I said, it was interesting.

00:05:15.000 5'8".

00:05:16.000 Yeah, there you go.

00:05:16.000 Look at you.

00:05:17.000 Look at you.

00:05:18.000 I don't want to talk about that.

00:05:20.000 Let's take that down.

00:05:20.000 He's 5'8".

00:05:22.000 Wait, hey, Callan, you hosted a show and what, dude?

00:05:25.000 How was Ryan Seacrest not the host and you were the host?

00:05:27.000 Well, because he was producing it.

00:05:29.000 Oh, that's true.

00:05:29.000 And they paid me a lot of money just for one day to do four episodes.

00:05:33.000 And I was like, all right.

00:05:34.000 And then I had the option to get out.

00:05:35.000 And then I called my agent and I got to get out.

00:05:36.000 It didn't go well?

00:05:37.000 I didn't like what it was.

00:05:38.000 What was it?

00:05:39.000 It was people basically asking for money.

00:05:41.000 And I was duped into thinking it was more going to be like a talk soup thing.

00:05:44.000 And the minute I got there, they said, we want to turn it into more of a talk show.

00:05:48.000 And I said, that's not what I do.

00:05:49.000 I don't want to do that.

00:05:50.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:05:50.000 A talk show.

00:05:52.000 Yeah, they kind of hit me literally when I got there.

00:05:53.000 I thought it was going to be like, I was going to be doing a lot of comedy, kind of a talk soup thing, making it funny.

00:05:58.000 And that's how they presented it to me.

00:05:59.000 And that's how the audition was.

00:06:00.000 And I got there and all of a sudden they go, we want you to wear a suit and just kind of read the teleprompter.

00:06:04.000 And I went, ah!

00:06:05.000 Not your style.

00:06:06.000 Yeah, but I made a lot of money for a day.

00:06:08.000 And I tried to make a connection with Ryan Seacrest as a guy, and he's just so professional.

00:06:12.000 He's just kind of one of those guys where he went...

00:06:14.000 I said, how you doing, man?

00:06:16.000 He had made $13 million that year.

00:06:17.000 He's a robot.

00:06:18.000 I went, so what are you up to, man?

00:06:20.000 You're single and stuff?

00:06:21.000 He goes, having a lot of fun.

00:06:22.000 Having a lot of fun.

00:06:24.000 And that was all I could get out of him.

00:06:25.000 There was no detail.

00:06:26.000 He's always on.

00:06:28.000 I don't like those guys, man.

00:06:30.000 Not my type of dude.

00:06:31.000 We may not know who he is.

00:06:33.000 What's your favorite color, Brendan?

00:06:34.000 I'm like, huh?

00:06:34.000 It's just you and me, man.

00:06:37.000 Purple's a good color.

00:06:38.000 I think you'd look good in purple.

00:06:39.000 Okay, color number three.

00:06:41.000 Like, what?

00:06:41.000 My feet hurt.

00:06:43.000 Well, feet can hurt.

00:06:44.000 Alright.

00:06:44.000 It's so weird.

00:06:45.000 Most of us have feet.

00:06:46.000 We're getting nowhere with this, is what I tell him.

00:06:48.000 Well, you know what it is?

00:06:49.000 He found a frequency.

00:06:50.000 He found, like, there's a station on the dial that was available, and it's a low hum.

00:06:55.000 And he's stuck there. 0.98

00:06:57.000 And you're not going to get any fucking craziness out of him. 0.99

00:07:00.000 You're not going to get any wife smacking. 1.00

00:07:02.000 You're not going to get any fucking drunk driving. 0.99

00:07:04.000 You're not going to get any heroin. 0.99

00:07:06.000 Just nothing.

00:07:07.000 He's a robot.

00:07:07.000 Even with his wife.

00:07:08.000 Hey, how about you suck my dick? 1.00

00:07:10.000 That's an amazing description. 1.00

00:07:12.000 He found a frequency.

00:07:15.000 And it's like hosting American Idol, hosting like, come on, morning radio.

00:07:20.000 Alright, we're going to give away a free donut.

00:07:24.000 Like a Casey Kasem fan.

00:07:26.000 I love donuts.

00:07:27.000 Alright, I love donuts too.

00:07:28.000 We'll take the next caller.

00:07:31.000 It's like he's not a human! 1.00

00:07:33.000 It's like the Truman Show, where the rest of the world's like, what the fuck are you doing here? 1.00

00:07:40.000 Tuesday! 1.00

00:07:41.000 It's Tuesday!

00:07:42.000 It's Donut Tuesdays, everybody!

00:07:43.000 Yeah, he's an odd dude. 0.99

00:07:45.000 But he used to be more fuck-around-y on the radio. 0.98

00:07:49.000 When he used to do a radio show, I did his radio show way, way, way back in the day, before he was famous. 0.99

00:07:53.000 And he was more fuck-around-y. 0.97

00:07:54.000 He was more controversial. 1.00

00:07:56.000 But what happened was, he hit the fucking motherlode of money. 0.99

00:07:59.000 With American Idol. 1.00

00:08:02.000 I think one guy left and he stayed.

00:08:05.000 And then American Idol blew up. 0.98

00:08:07.000 Yeah, he's a monster.

00:08:08.000 People like him and he works hard. 0.52

00:08:10.000 Oh, he's a workhorse.

00:08:11.000 He has a persona now, right?

00:08:12.000 Like you have a persona you gotta keep all the time.

00:08:15.000 He's that hum. 1.00

00:08:17.000 Fuck that life, man. 1.00

00:08:18.000 Nothing high, nothing low, nothing crazy. 1.00

00:08:21.000 That's not a way to live.

00:08:22.000 Well, not for me or you.

00:08:23.000 Nah, can't be my friend.

00:08:24.000 You know what?

00:08:25.000 You can't be my friend.

00:08:27.000 If you don't have some chaos in you, I don't trust you.

00:08:30.000 I need a little self-destruction, sir.

00:08:32.000 You don't have nothing?

00:08:34.000 I wonder why that is.

00:08:36.000 Why do we look...

00:08:36.000 My kindred spirits are dudes like that.

00:08:39.000 The minute I hear there's a little fucking darkness, I'm like, well, there we go, sir. 0.99

00:08:44.000 A little darkness, a little self-destruction. 0.99

00:08:47.000 It's one of the things that we hit off with right away.

00:08:50.000 I was like, oh, I can trust this guy.

00:08:52.000 Yes.

00:08:54.000 You're in the circle of trust. 1.00

00:08:55.000 He's just as retarded as you. 1.00

00:08:56.000 You can tell me anything. 1.00

00:08:58.000 I'd be like, I understand.

00:09:00.000 Of course.

00:09:02.000 Anything.

00:09:02.000 Like, literally, I gotta hide this body.

00:09:05.000 My favorite color's red, man. 0.99

00:09:07.000 It's fucking weird. 0.98

00:09:08.000 It's really into red. 0.99

00:09:10.000 There used to be this guy who used to go to the boxing gym that I worked out at and he was gay, but he didn't want to admit he was gay.

00:09:15.000 And he would tell us about stories about girls and it was one of the most bizarre things.

00:09:21.000 He was like, man, it was like on this dance floor, man, this girl came up to me and, you know, just totally started making out with me.

00:09:28.000 And I was like, hey, back off. 1.00

00:09:29.000 Like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:09:31.000 What? 1.00

00:09:33.000 Interesting.

00:09:35.000 What? 1.00

00:09:35.000 What the fuck did you just say? 1.00

00:09:37.000 I remember in high school, this guy used to get a lot of girls in high school. 1.00

00:09:40.000 I remember one time he said, I like to kiss girls, and then when they try to touch my chest, I say no.

00:09:46.000 No, I'm not ready for that.

00:09:47.000 Because if they do that to me, I do that to them.

00:09:49.000 I remember when I was 18, I was like...

00:09:52.000 You, sir, are the enemy!

00:09:54.000 You, sir, are ISIS! I'm afraid I can't speak to you anymore! 1.00

00:09:57.000 You fucking liar! 1.00

00:09:58.000 We're talking about there's some guys, especially like foreign guys, I have a lot of friends from England, where you'll be like, yeah, I hooked up with this girl, man, she was a freak. 1.00

00:10:05.000 To all of us, it's like, oh, cool, man.

00:10:07.000 We know what that means.

00:10:08.000 The British guy's like, yeah, what you do?

00:10:10.000 What exactly does she do? 1.00

00:10:11.000 What does she do, mate? 0.98

00:10:12.000 You're like, hey, man! 1.00

00:10:13.000 She's a freak. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Relax.

00:10:14.000 How did it start?

00:10:16.000 Relax.

00:10:16.000 Did you start out with making out?

00:10:17.000 Did you talk dirty?

00:10:18.000 Yeah, it's weird. 0.99

00:10:19.000 Did you guys immediately start fucking? 0.99

00:10:21.000 Did you wear a condom or no condom? 0.99

00:10:23.000 What happens with the condom?

00:10:24.000 It's too much, man. 0.86

00:10:25.000 Did you come somewhere? 0.99

00:10:26.000 The guy from the boxing gym, the way I described it is like, I don't know how to speak French, but if you told me the words to say, I could say them, but I wouldn't know what the fuck I was saying. 0.99

00:10:34.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:10:35.000 That was a great way of describing a gay man trying to pretend he's straight. 1.00

00:10:38.000 Yeah, he was saying all the stuff that, I mean, sort of.

00:10:42.000 He was talking about being with a girl, making out.

00:10:44.000 I was like, wait, what?

00:10:45.000 It was all off.

00:10:47.000 It was like, parlez-vous français?

00:10:48.000 What?

00:10:48.000 It's off, man.

00:10:50.000 I don't even know if you know what you're saying.

00:10:52.000 Yeah, yeah, that's so true.

00:10:53.000 The small of her back, man.

00:10:55.000 When my hand careens.

00:10:57.000 It's very important to be able to trust dudes.

00:10:59.000 Well, we were talking about that one football player was on, what's that show we were talking about?

00:11:03.000 Where they're like, what's the most attractive part of a woman? 1.00

00:11:06.000 And I've always thought this guy was gay, and he's at the buzzer, and he's like, her feet. 0.99

00:11:10.000 And everyone was like, you sir, like the way the dick takes. 0.99

00:11:17.000 As soon as I saw that, I was like, oh no. 0.99

00:11:20.000 Her feet. 0.99

00:11:22.000 Every dude before him was like, them big ass titties for $3,000. 0.99

00:11:27.000 Right. 1.00

00:11:27.000 Fat ass for 1,000, Jim. 1.00

00:11:30.000 My answer would be I'd bang her if she didn't have feet. 1.00

00:11:33.000 It's not that important to me. 0.94

00:11:34.000 My girl could have talent. 1.00

00:11:36.000 I would have no idea. 1.00

00:11:37.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99

00:11:38.000 Right, just covering them up with a cloth. 0.99

00:11:40.000 We'll figure it out.

00:11:41.000 You could have hooves.

00:11:42.000 You could have hobbit feet. 0.99

00:11:43.000 I don't know.

00:11:43.000 How bizarre.

00:11:44.000 Their feet. 1.00

00:11:45.000 The whole crowd was like, damn. 0.99

00:11:48.000 It just ruined the whole show. 1.00

00:11:49.000 Sir, you're lying about your life.

00:11:56.000 I just called the treat on the feet. 1.00

00:11:58.000 I just fuck her and stare at her feet. 1.00

00:12:00.000 I put them in my mouth. 1.00

00:12:01.000 Dude, sometimes there's those pornos where those dudes are getting jacked up with their feet. 0.94

00:12:05.000 It's weird, huh?

00:12:05.000 Super common.

00:12:06.000 My old girlfriend, I had a girlfriend who told me that she just dated a guy who I knew who used to put her feet in his mouth when he was having sex. 0.68

00:12:13.000 And I was like, always jealous. 0.92

00:12:15.000 Oh, boy.

00:12:16.000 I thought, maybe you like that, and that's the one thing I don't do for you.

00:12:21.000 Wait, he would put her foot in his mouth?

00:12:24.000 That's not too weird.

00:12:25.000 So she told you about that though, like wanting you to do it? 1.00

00:12:28.000 Well, my dick was in my hand. 1.00

00:12:31.000 So you were asking her about shit she did with other dudes? 1.00

00:12:34.000 Of course. 0.99

00:12:35.000 I get deep into that stuff.

00:12:37.000 I'm very curious.

00:12:38.000 And I knew him.

00:12:39.000 And she said that he loved her feet and he put her entire foot in his mouth.

00:12:44.000 I was like, well, first of all, I don't think I could do that.

00:12:46.000 Okie dokie.

00:12:48.000 Some people are into that.

00:12:49.000 Wait, back to Merv Griffin.

00:12:51.000 Merv Griffin was... 0.99

00:12:52.000 My friend went to have lunch at his house, and he had just hot as shit young dudes serving all over his mansion. 1.00

00:13:01.000 Just like the best looking smooth boys. 0.96

00:13:05.000 Just well-groomed, muscled, beautiful young men. 0.95

00:13:11.000 If you're a young gay dude, that has to be the lie. 1.00

00:13:13.000 He was about 65 at the time. 0.81

00:13:15.000 Well, young gay dudes, period. 1.00

00:13:19.000 There's something to be said for that life. 0.93

00:13:21.000 Because, first of all, they don't have kids unless they really want to.

00:13:25.000 They have to go out of their way to have kids. 1.00

00:13:26.000 It's a beast.

00:13:27.000 So they have all this money, right?

00:13:29.000 Because they have total disposable income.

00:13:31.000 Exactly.

00:13:32.000 Most of them don't have dudes they have to take care of unless they're like older guys that are like hanging on and they have like these younger dudes that don't have any money.

00:13:41.000 Liberace style, son.

00:13:42.000 Exactly.

00:13:42.000 They're just drilling.

00:13:43.000 And there's guys running.

00:13:44.000 There's always that one couple of young guys.

00:13:47.000 Take the car, you know?

00:13:48.000 There's always the young twinks who are into older dudes. 0.76

00:13:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:52.000 Well, it's not that they're into older dudes.

00:13:54.000 They're just not into working.

00:13:55.000 Yeah.

00:13:56.000 They're not into working, so they get plowed. 1.00

00:13:58.000 You're going to work this dick. 1.00

00:14:01.000 You're going to work this dick. 1.00

00:14:03.000 It's not a nine-to-five, but you're clocking in on these nuts. 1.00

00:14:06.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:14:07.000 There will be some work.

00:14:09.000 You're going to get that work inside. 1.00

00:14:11.000 You ain't just going to be napping all the time, motherfucker. 1.00

00:14:13.000 That's right. 1.00

00:14:16.000 Wake up with these old balls in your face. 1.00

00:14:19.000 Anytime they want. 0.99

00:14:20.000 They have deals, you know?

00:14:21.000 They have to.

00:14:21.000 I don't want any lip.

00:14:23.000 No back talk.

00:14:24.000 Don't talk to me. 0.99

00:14:24.000 I smack her face. 0.99

00:14:25.000 When I want my dick sucked, this is no conversation. 1.00

00:14:28.000 This is suck the dick. 1.00

00:14:29.000 I heard of a girl, she was applying for a job out here at a doctor office, and it was like an assistant job, and the doctor had in the contract that you had to give them a blowjob a certain time during the day. 1.00

00:14:41.000 That's some shit. 1.00

00:14:42.000 Tight move, Doc. 1.00

00:14:43.000 That's some shit. 1.00

00:14:44.000 Come on. 1.00

00:14:45.000 In a contract?

00:14:46.000 Contract.

00:14:46.000 Written into the contract.

00:14:47.000 You know what?

00:14:48.000 How could that be real?

00:14:50.000 I don't know.

00:14:51.000 What year was this?

00:14:51.000 Very recent.

00:14:53.000 No, that girl could sue that guy so easily. 1.00

00:14:55.000 Yeah, maybe. 1.00

00:14:56.000 That's a girl wanting to talk about sucking dick. 1.00

00:14:58.000 I was going to say, that's a girl making a story up, and she wants you to play doctor. 1.00

00:15:01.000 She wants to play doctor with you, bro.

00:15:03.000 Well, I had her sign the contract. 0.98

00:15:04.000 It was me.

00:15:05.000 It was me.

00:15:06.000 I'm not a doctor.

00:15:08.000 I had a white lab coat on.

00:15:11.000 Yeah, I proclaim myself of doctor.

00:15:13.000 I'm a doctor now.

00:15:15.000 Every Friday at 3. Damn. 1.00

00:15:17.000 Any level of expertise. 1.00

00:15:17.000 I'm a doctor of Darce jokes. 1.00

00:15:21.000 It's so ridiculous, the idea that that could be true. 0.88

00:15:24.000 I mean, it might be true. 0.93

00:15:25.000 I just don't imagine.

00:15:27.000 I don't think you can make that a contract.

00:15:29.000 A girl would take her cell phone out, take a picture of that. 0.99

00:15:32.000 Maybe it's like a deal, you know what I'm saying?

00:15:34.000 But that's prostitution. 1.00

00:15:35.000 Yeah.

00:15:35.000 Okay.

00:15:36.000 Okay.

00:15:37.000 I just don't think it's legal.

00:15:38.000 Like, I don't think you can have a sexual...

00:15:40.000 You don't think that's going down somewhere around here?

00:15:42.000 I don't think you're allowed to have a sexual contract that would be binding.

00:15:45.000 Yeah.

00:15:46.000 Because I think that, like, it would be considered prostitution. 0.99

00:15:48.000 You could hide it, though.

00:15:50.000 Maybe...

00:15:50.000 Like the Patriot Act?

00:15:52.000 Yeah.

00:15:52.000 Just bury it deep in the closet somewhere?

00:15:54.000 Bury it deep where it says favors at 3 p.m.

00:15:56.000 Oh, favors.

00:15:57.000 Favors.

00:15:58.000 Physical favors.

00:15:59.000 Physical errands.

00:16:00.000 I don't even think you could, like, put in a regular...

00:16:03.000 I guess you could put in, like, you have to rub my back.

00:16:07.000 Or you could just be like, hey listen, everything looks good here.

00:16:11.000 We agree on this.

00:16:12.000 The deal is, you know, it's not in the contract, but Friday's at 3 o'clock. 1.00

00:16:16.000 You need to suck this dick. 1.00

00:16:17.000 Take a look at this. 1.00

00:16:20.000 There's a woman alive that wanted a guy to eat her pussy every Friday at 3 o'clock. 1.00

00:16:25.000 Oh, I'm sure. 1.00

00:16:26.000 I'm sure there's some thirsty doctors, female doctors. 1.00

00:16:30.000 49, right?

00:16:31.000 Yeah.

00:16:32.000 Divorced.

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:33.000 Having nothing for like six months. 1.00

00:16:35.000 Shit, if I didn't have this podcast, I thought I was going to have to start doing that shit. 1.00

00:16:38.000 Yeah, I'll do it. 1.00

00:16:39.000 Friday, 3? 0.99

00:16:40.000 We'll suck at 3. We'll suck in the afternoon. 0.99

00:16:43.000 I will suck your titties at 2 o'clock. 1.00

00:16:44.000 But in the old days, I'm sure they had contracts like that. 1.00

00:16:47.000 But with all the laws against sexual harassment, I just highly doubt it.

00:16:50.000 All those pesky laws now. 1.00

00:16:51.000 Fucking laws. 1.00

00:16:53.000 Fucking up everything, man. 1.00

00:16:54.000 Back in the day, just the idea that you would have that in a contract. 0.99

00:16:59.000 Well, marriage is not binding.

00:17:02.000 You don't have to have sex in a marriage.

00:17:04.000 It's up to discretion.

00:17:05.000 It's given, though, right?

00:17:08.000 I don't know.

00:17:09.000 Well, it's not, though, because we all know guys that don't do anything.

00:17:13.000 They have a marriage with a woman.

00:17:16.000 Yeah, they have a roommate, and they take care of their kids together.

00:17:18.000 Yeah, that's right. 1.00

00:17:19.000 We both know quite a few families like that, and we'll get together, Brian and I will get together, and we'll go, what the Fuck. 1.00

00:17:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:24.000 Because they'll tell you, like, we haven't had sex in a year. 1.00

00:17:26.000 We haven't had sex in two years.

00:17:28.000 It's amazing to me.

00:17:29.000 My buddy was poor most of his life, okay?

00:17:32.000 I mean, like, the most he had ever made as an actor was like $40,000 a year.

00:17:39.000 That was, like, his best year.

00:17:40.000 Then he got a television show.

00:17:41.000 Hmm.

00:17:42.000 Immediately after the television show, his wife divorces him.

00:17:45.000 And now she wants for the next, because they had been married for ten years, she wants for the next five years half of what he was making when he was on the television show in Alamone. 0.98

00:17:55.000 First of all, if you get a television show, if you're lucky as fuck, it goes a year. 0.99

00:18:03.000 If you're lucky as fuck. 1.00

00:18:05.000 Save that money. 0.99

00:18:05.000 If you're crazy lucky, it goes two years. 0.99

00:18:08.000 If you hit to a show...

00:18:09.000 You get a show that's on syndication.

00:18:12.000 Oh my god.

00:18:13.000 How many people get to a show that's on syndication?

00:18:14.000 Very few.

00:18:15.000 Very few.

00:18:16.000 She ignored all the years that they were together.

00:18:20.000 All the years where they were together, he was struggling.

00:18:22.000 Like, more than ten years.

00:18:23.000 She ignored all those years.

00:18:24.000 Ignored all those years.

00:18:25.000 Concentrated only on the one year that he was on a sitcom and wanted half of that money. 1.00

00:18:29.000 Damn. 1.00

00:18:30.000 That's that OJ Simpson shit, man. 1.00

00:18:32.000 And he had a kid. 1.00

00:18:33.000 We freaked the fuck out.

00:18:34.000 So it was very hard for him. 0.93

00:18:37.000 Very hard.

00:18:38.000 Because you have to maintain that lifestyle, right?

00:18:39.000 Yeah, well, that's the idea.

00:18:41.000 The idea that he was supposed to maintain her lifestyle.

00:18:44.000 And it was really hard because he has a son and he loves his kid.

00:18:49.000 And he wasn't having sex with his wife. 0.97

00:18:51.000 He hadn't had sex with her for over a year. 0.92

00:18:52.000 See, that to me is already...

00:18:55.000 There are so many people that ignore that major elephant in the room.

00:18:58.000 Sex? 0.91

00:18:59.000 Yeah, man.

00:18:59.000 If you're married...

00:19:00.000 Are you trying to get me to cheat on you?

00:19:02.000 Right.

00:19:02.000 I mean, if we're not having sex, what do you think is going to happen?

00:19:04.000 Well, that never is...

00:19:06.000 I know two people who are in marriages like that, and they don't really discuss that.

00:19:10.000 And I'm always like, how are you living your life this way, man?

00:19:13.000 Yeah, how are you?

00:19:14.000 Well, it's the same guys, too.

00:19:15.000 Like, when I was back in Denver, my buddies, I was like, hey, let's go out.

00:19:18.000 And they're like, oh, man, what should I tell my girl?

00:19:20.000 I'm like, what? 0.99

00:19:21.000 Tell her you're fucking going out, man. 0.99

00:19:22.000 Like, I know, but we gotta come up with a plan. 1.00

00:19:24.000 I'm like, what's the fucking plan, man? 0.99

00:19:27.000 Just tell them we're gonna go out. 0.99

00:19:29.000 They're all, like, worried.

00:19:30.000 It's the same guys, man.

00:19:32.000 It's weird.

00:19:33.000 But you got me thinking about being an actor.

00:19:35.000 You talk about if you had to just rely on fighting, making a living.

00:19:37.000 I really feel that way about acting.

00:19:39.000 Thank God for the podcast and stand-up.

00:19:41.000 I can't imagine having to worry about making my living as an actor.

00:19:45.000 And guess what?

00:19:46.000 I work as an actor.

00:19:47.000 Well, it's also a confining thing with you.

00:19:50.000 You're at your best on podcasts.

00:19:53.000 Yeah.

00:19:53.000 Or doing stand-up.

00:19:54.000 Because you're free.

00:19:56.000 You could be you.

00:19:57.000 No one is ever going to write you correctly.

00:20:00.000 They'll write a caricatured version that you'll do your best to try to spice up.

00:20:04.000 But also, you need their approval.

00:20:06.000 You need to be cast.

00:20:07.000 You need to be a part of a cast of people.

00:20:10.000 You need to get along with everybody.

00:20:11.000 You've got to get to the set when they say.

00:20:14.000 All those things are against what you are. 0.99

00:20:16.000 What you are is this Weird free spirit who grew up all over the world, and you know, you kind of were on your own a little bit too much, and so you made friends in weird ways, and so you developed this fucking crazy personality. 0.98

00:20:28.000 But it translates into funny. 0.99

00:20:31.000 It's a fucking Willy Wonka golden ticket to funny. 0.99

00:20:36.000 That is just like, it's like a side job. 0.99

00:20:39.000 And people get stuck in that side job.

00:20:41.000 Did you go on auditions?

00:20:42.000 Did you go on a bunch of auditions?

00:20:44.000 I got a crazy story.

00:20:45.000 Sorry, I didn't mean to go back to you.

00:20:47.000 I just want to know auditions.

00:20:48.000 The only two auditions I ever went on when I first started doing the acting thing, I've got the TV shows.

00:20:56.000 The only two I ever went on.

00:20:57.000 A show called Hardball, got it.

00:20:59.000 And then a show called Newsradio, got it.

00:21:01.000 Those are the only two auditions I ever did.

00:21:03.000 And you got both of them.

00:21:03.000 I got both of them.

00:21:04.000 How rare is that?

00:21:05.000 It's impossible.

00:21:05.000 You're betting a thousand.

00:21:06.000 It's see ya.

00:21:07.000 I have two shows that win the syndication.

00:21:09.000 That's insane.

00:21:09.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:21:10.000 Then he went on an audition and the director asked him to do it a different way.

00:21:13.000 And he goes, you called me right after.

00:21:16.000 And he goes, you know what?

00:21:17.000 Nah.

00:21:18.000 Well, Artie or C. Lang.

00:21:20.000 Artie Lang was in the movie, and that was the only reason why I was willing to do it in the first place.

00:21:23.000 I was going to do it with Artie.

00:21:25.000 And the guy goes, alright.

00:21:27.000 I read it as, you know, prepared.

00:21:28.000 And then he goes, okay.

00:21:30.000 The director was a little annoying, too.

00:21:32.000 Really pompous English guy. 0.57

00:21:34.000 And he goes...

00:21:35.000 Okay, what I want you to do now is you are trying to get him very interested in being married, okay?

00:21:42.000 You're married, and you're going to write this down on a piece of paper.

00:21:45.000 Here's a pen, here's a marker, and you're going to write, just married, and you're going to hold it up.

00:21:53.000 You're trying to convince him that you want him to be married.

00:21:57.000 I go, listen, first of all...

00:21:59.000 I'm not acting.

00:22:01.000 I'm not sitting here talking to Artie Lang, okay?

00:22:04.000 I'm talking to a PA who could barely read.

00:22:06.000 The dude barely could read.

00:22:08.000 I mean, he was reading it like...

00:22:10.000 Like Floyd Mayweather?

00:22:11.000 Do you think it's a good thing for us to be out like this at night? 1.00

00:22:16.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:22:16.000 Is it a good thing? 1.00

00:22:18.000 Come on, man!

00:22:19.000 We're gonna go have fun!

00:22:20.000 So I'm supposed to be convincing this guy that marriage is the key to him.

00:22:24.000 I want you to write Just Married on this piece of paper.

00:22:27.000 I go...

00:22:29.000 If we were on the set and you wanted me to help write your movie, you wanted me to help make the movie better, I would ad-lib a whole scene where I say, just married.

00:22:38.000 I go, but I'm, no, I'm not gonna do that.

00:22:41.000 Not here.

00:22:42.000 I go, we're in a conference room.

00:22:43.000 No one does this!

00:22:44.000 I go, this is a PA. I go, no, I'm not gonna do that.

00:22:46.000 Like, this is, what the fuck are you trying to do? 0.96

00:22:48.000 And they just peaced out? 0.99

00:22:49.000 Yeah, I said, I won't do this.

00:22:51.000 And I left.

00:22:51.000 That was the last time you acted, I think.

00:22:53.000 No, I did Kevin James movies.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, I know.

00:22:55.000 But I only did them because I like Kevin.

00:22:57.000 Right.

00:22:58.000 But my agent called me up, you can't do that. 0.98

00:23:01.000 I'm like, the guy's like, fuck, what do you mean I can't do that? 0.96

00:23:03.000 I didn't want to do it. 0.99

00:23:04.000 I didn't want to do it.

00:23:05.000 Don't tell me I can't do that.

00:23:06.000 I think you're one of the only guys who can pull that off, right?

00:23:08.000 I couldn't pull it off.

00:23:09.000 I didn't pull it off.

00:23:10.000 I didn't get the role.

00:23:10.000 No.

00:23:11.000 I tanked out.

00:23:12.000 Yeah, but that personality trait is what got you to where you're at. 1.00

00:23:16.000 We're like, no, I'm not doing this, fuck that. 1.00

00:23:17.000 Maybe, maybe. 1.00

00:23:17.000 It depends. 1.00

00:23:18.000 Because there's a lot of guys who do that.

00:23:19.000 It's hard to be an actor, though, with that personality trait, because what happens is it's such a collaborative effort. 0.98

00:23:23.000 No, I knew, I could see through the fucking looking glass, that this was an unbelievable steaming log of a movie. 1.00

00:23:33.000 It was a pile of shit. 1.00

00:23:35.000 I felt it coming. 1.00

00:23:36.000 I knew it was coming.

00:23:37.000 Look, I had already done a bad sitcom when I did that hardball show.

00:23:41.000 It was a bad sitcom. 0.99

00:23:42.000 And it started off good, but all these fucking other people got involved. 0.98

00:23:46.000 And the original writers were really funny guys that were on The Simpsons and Married With Children. 0.98

00:23:50.000 But then they got all these fucking professional hack guys who make these hacky sitcoms. 0.92

00:23:56.000 And they make jokes like they... 0.99

00:23:58.000 They ruined it.

00:23:59.000 They write jokes in.

00:24:00.000 I've been there before and it's hell.

00:24:02.000 You would think it's like, it's easier to work a job than it is to work a show where it could be funny and it turns out to be awful because you're so conflicted.

00:24:13.000 As a comic, when you know something is really bad, it's like...

00:24:16.000 And you know funny.

00:24:17.000 You'll know if it's going to work. 0.99

00:24:19.000 If there's a difference between getting paid to work at the fucking... 0.98

00:24:25.000 Lumberyard, you know, carrying logs, but it paid you 25 grand a week. 0.98

00:24:29.000 You'd be like, oh, well, you know, or a sitcom that pays you 25 grand a week, but it's terrible.

00:24:34.000 I swear to God, it's better to carry the logs. 1.00

00:24:38.000 Fuck that. 1.00

00:24:38.000 Because the logs don't make you feel bad after it's over. 1.00

00:24:42.000 You don't feel like you're selling your soul.

00:24:44.000 You feel like you're just working.

00:24:46.000 When you key into that, I had to really have a talk with myself.

00:24:50.000 I came out here to be an actor.

00:24:51.000 20 years.

00:24:52.000 I studied it for years.

00:24:55.000 I'm doing a show now.

00:24:57.000 The other day, I was talking to my mother, and I said, I've never been on a set as an actor.

00:25:03.000 Where I wasn't looking forward to it being over.

00:25:06.000 Really?

00:25:07.000 Yes!

00:25:07.000 Now think about that.

00:25:08.000 This hasn't been my whole life.

00:25:09.000 I worked really hard at being an actor.

00:25:11.000 I really did.

00:25:12.000 Have I been successful?

00:25:14.000 Moderately.

00:25:14.000 But I worked hard at it and spent a lot of time in traffic going to auditions and spent a lot of anxiety trying to get jobs.

00:25:20.000 Sometimes I got them, most of the time I didn't.

00:25:22.000 But even when I've landed big jobs, I've never been on a set where I couldn't wait for it to be over.

00:25:30.000 Did you wake up excited though?

00:25:32.000 Nope.

00:25:34.000 I sure didn't. 0.99

00:25:34.000 Then why the fuck do it? 0.99

00:25:35.000 Well, that's why I do podcasts and stand-up now. 0.99

00:25:38.000 You still go on some auditions though, right?

00:25:41.000 Sometimes.

00:25:41.000 Not a ton.

00:25:42.000 I auditioned for Wonder Woman.

00:25:44.000 Haven't heard back from Patty.

00:25:45.000 You should get it. 0.99

00:25:46.000 I love when we're at Abbot Kenney grabbing lunch and you're like, fuck, I should be on an audition. 0.99

00:25:51.000 What do you mean? 0.98

00:25:52.000 When you might have an audition coming up, but we're at lunch.

00:25:54.000 Oh, and I forgot. 1.00

00:25:55.000 And you're all, ah, fuck it. 1.00

00:25:56.000 And I forgot. 1.00

00:25:57.000 No, you're just like, fuck it. 1.00

00:25:58.000 I love that. 1.00

00:25:59.000 Well, it's because everything's going well.

00:26:01.000 Yeah, man.

00:26:01.000 Look, you're great at being Brian Callen.

00:26:04.000 That's the real problem.

00:26:05.000 It's the best.

00:26:06.000 That's what I'm good at.

00:26:07.000 I'm doing good at being me, man.

00:26:08.000 You're good at being you.

00:26:09.000 It's true, bro.

00:26:10.000 There's just something in that.

00:26:11.000 And you can't manufacture that.

00:26:14.000 No. 0.98

00:26:14.000 I've cried on auditions where I've cried in a very dramatic scene and I've got seven people I don't know looking at me and I'm fucking crying but doing the lines and I'm fucking good. 0.98

00:26:26.000 Didn't get it, but still crying. 0.96

00:26:29.000 And I'm walking out, wiping my tears.

00:26:31.000 They're like, Brian, you're a very fine actor.

00:26:32.000 I'm like, thank you very much, man.

00:26:34.000 I think that's the character driving home.

00:26:37.000 Part of me dying inside.

00:26:38.000 There's nothing wrong with really enjoying that.

00:26:41.000 Like my friend Steven Root from NewsRadio.

00:26:43.000 Great actor.

00:26:43.000 Who's a great actor.

00:26:44.000 He's been in a boardwalk.

00:26:45.000 And a great guy.

00:26:45.000 Fantastic guy.

00:26:47.000 He's been in Boardwalk Empire, Office Space, a million different movies.

00:26:51.000 That guy is hilarious, and he's always working, and he loves becoming a new character.

00:26:57.000 He has a craft.

00:27:00.000 So people love it, right?

00:27:01.000 Bradley Cooper loves acting more than anything.

00:27:04.000 He was in an actor's studio and obsessed over little details about the character and how assured it is.

00:27:10.000 Listen, man.

00:27:11.000 That's why he can do American Sniper and sit there.

00:27:13.000 You need those guys.

00:27:14.000 We like to go to movies.

00:27:15.000 Well, there's the same thing in fighting, too. 1.00

00:27:17.000 There's some guys who love that shit. 1.00

00:27:19.000 Like, the Diaz brothers love to be in the thick of things getting hit in the face. 1.00

00:27:23.000 Rafael Dos Andros loves it.

00:27:24.000 Guess who does it?

00:27:25.000 This guy!

00:27:26.000 This guy!

00:27:28.000 Do that!

00:27:29.000 Are you done?

00:27:30.000 Can we say officially you're done?

00:27:32.000 Are you done officially?

00:27:33.000 Say it.

00:27:34.000 Don't listen to him.

00:27:34.000 Take a deep breath.

00:27:35.000 Listen to me.

00:27:35.000 It's over.

00:27:37.000 Devil angel.

00:27:38.000 Am I the devil or am I the angel?

00:27:40.000 No, no, no.

00:27:40.000 I'm just kidding.

00:27:41.000 I get confused.

00:27:43.000 I don't know, man.

00:27:44.000 I'm going to do it.

00:27:44.000 Dude, if you don't like making a lot of money talking and doing what comes naturally, and if you'd rather go in there and get punched in the face by monsters, please, whatever you want to do, I'm just here to support whatever decision you make, take a deep breath, and don't say anything.

00:27:57.000 You know what the thing is?

00:27:58.000 I'm not officially doing anything.

00:28:00.000 For me, it's just, you know, things are going so good, it's just like...

00:28:05.000 You know, and with the Reebok deal and all that stuff, I just don't like the direction that it's going.

00:28:09.000 It doesn't make sense to me.

00:28:10.000 So, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing and... 0.99

00:28:13.000 He's going to suck down to 85. There, I said it. 0.99

00:28:14.000 I'm going to suck down to 170. Could you imagine? 0.99

00:28:18.000 Just like dead.

00:28:19.000 Jesus Christ.

00:28:20.000 Just dead.

00:28:20.000 Could you imagine what you would look like at 170?

00:28:22.000 You would be a skeleton.

00:28:23.000 They'd have to put him in a coma.

00:28:24.000 They'd have to put him in a medically induced coma for five months.

00:28:27.000 Oh, well, this is a good point to talk about because now that they're the new standards, the new testing standards, they're not allowing IVs anymore.

00:28:35.000 Why? 1.00

00:28:35.000 It's fucking stupid. 1.00

00:28:36.000 Explain that to me. 1.00

00:28:37.000 Well, because you could blood dope. 0.86

00:28:39.000 So they're checking for levels of plastic.

00:28:43.000 But it's dangerous when you do that because it takes, they say, almost seven days to fully hydrate your cells the way they were when you were drinking.

00:28:51.000 Like with an IV, you can hydrate much faster.

00:28:53.000 Head trauma is way more likely when you're dehydrated and you don't have time in 24 hours to drink yourself hydrated.

00:29:00.000 I think they're taking it too far now.

00:29:03.000 They're taking a little too far.

00:29:04.000 Okay, but is there an argument to be made for the fact that they're just going to cut out weight cutting now and that would be better for everybody?

00:29:10.000 Or would they never cut out weight cutting?

00:29:12.000 Would people take a chance and fight dehydrated?

00:29:14.000 Dudes are always going to cut weight. 0.81

00:29:15.000 Do you know Andy Foster?

00:29:16.000 He's the director of the California State Athletic Commission.

00:29:19.000 Andy Foster is the, as far as I'm concerned, he's the most hardline guy.

00:29:25.000 He's a guy who's been involved in martial arts for a long time. 0.86

00:29:28.000 He's fought, and he's a real fan, and a fucking smart guy, and he runs a tight ship. 0.96

00:29:33.000 California's tight, tight ship. 0.95

00:29:34.000 I love this guy.

00:29:35.000 I love what he's doing. 0.99

00:29:36.000 But he suspended Schlamenko for three fucking years. 0.98

00:29:41.000 For steroids, right? 0.99

00:29:42.000 Mm-hmm.

00:29:42.000 What?

00:29:43.000 Shalamanco pissed hot. 1.00

00:29:44.000 He suspended him for three years.

00:29:45.000 He essentially canceled his career.

00:29:48.000 Like, that's it.

00:29:49.000 100%. 1.00

00:29:49.000 Damn. 1.00

00:29:50.000 Do you think that's fair or no? 0.99

00:29:52.000 There's a debate.

00:29:52.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:29:54.000 Part of me goes, I like the fact that he takes a hard line, that people can't do steroids anymore.

00:29:58.000 But another fact, like, this guy doesn't have a chance now.

00:30:00.000 He can't even get off of him.

00:30:01.000 Well, no, but he can get out of California and fight.

00:30:04.000 No.

00:30:05.000 No.

00:30:05.000 No, no, [...

00:30:07.000 No. 0.98

00:30:08.000 I mean, he can fight in, like, China or some shit. 0.96

00:30:09.000 Yeah, he can fight in China. 0.99

00:30:10.000 He can go to fucking wherever. 0.97

00:30:11.000 Yeah, but he's got a contract with Bellator. 0.98

00:30:13.000 I don't even think he can do that.

00:30:14.000 Like, that's the Vandele Silva thing. 0.98

00:30:16.000 Like, when Vandele Silva ran away from the test, which, by the way, Vandele Silva was exonerated.

00:30:21.000 They gave him a lifetime ban in California, but the court decided that that was invalid.

00:30:28.000 You can't do that, which is great.

00:30:29.000 He should retire, anyways.

00:30:30.000 He should retire.

00:30:31.000 Vandele's had some crazy wars, and he's an all-time...

00:30:34.000 All-time legend.

00:30:35.000 If I had to say, like, my favorite fighters, the fighters that, like, when they're about to fight, and I went, ooh, [...]

00:30:56.000 Well, he had to do that.

00:30:58.000 His nose was completely flattened.

00:31:00.000 Yeah, but his face wasn't.

00:31:01.000 His scar tissue was so bad, and his eyebrows, that he would just get nicked, and it would just open up a giant gash.

00:31:06.000 It was just all scar.

00:31:08.000 Like, there's some close-up photos of Vanderlei's eyes.

00:31:11.000 Like, you see the amount of scar tissue.

00:31:13.000 He's been through some wars, man.

00:31:14.000 When I found out Gilbert Melendez tested positive for steroids, I almost fell out of my chair.

00:31:19.000 He's the first one where I was like...

00:31:22.000 Me, it was John Fitch.

00:31:23.000 Nah, John Fitch, I was like, ah, whatever.

00:31:26.000 But John Fitch always used to talk about it.

00:31:27.000 Gilbert Melendez, though?

00:31:27.000 I know.

00:31:28.000 What?

00:31:28.000 I know.

00:31:29.000 That's fucking insane! 0.97

00:31:30.000 But that leads me to the question of, if they have such stringent testing for steroids, I feel like you're not gonna see guys fighting into their 30s. 0.98

00:31:41.000 They're not gonna be able to compete.

00:31:42.000 And I think Gilbert Melendez, who, you know, is an all-time warrior.

00:31:46.000 He's one of my favorites.

00:31:48.000 I love that guy.

00:31:50.000 And I think that, you know, Gilbert Melendez or people like that who are now in their 30s training on that level, I think what you're gonna see is, you know, it's not possible.

00:32:01.000 You could make the argument that it's not possible to fight on a high level like that at 30, in your 30s, without some help.

00:32:08.000 Okay.

00:32:08.000 Game over.

00:32:09.000 It's evolution.

00:32:10.000 Game over.

00:32:11.000 Okay, but so your career's gonna last...

00:32:12.000 Let's say half as long.

00:32:14.000 That's a hard pill to swallow for dudes who dedicate their whole life.

00:32:16.000 Look at me.

00:32:17.000 I know.

00:32:17.000 I get it.

00:32:18.000 I know. 1.00

00:32:18.000 I'm just saying that if you can't compete anymore and you've got to do steroids, then it might be time to be like, all right, suck it. 1.00

00:32:24.000 It's just so wide spread. 0.99

00:32:26.000 Maybe this isn't the life for you.

00:32:28.000 Well, he's an interesting case because he's got a legit medical issue.

00:32:31.000 I agree.

00:32:32.000 He has a tumor in his pituitary gland. 1.00

00:32:33.000 I know, and he needs that shit. 1.00

00:32:34.000 He's a different case. 1.00

00:32:35.000 But he was a totally different animal when he fought Mark Hunt.

00:32:38.000 Completely different. 0.99

00:32:39.000 He could take monster bombs to the head. 1.00

00:32:42.000 I mean, Mark Hunt hits as hard as fucking anybody. 1.00

00:32:45.000 Hardest in the world. 0.99

00:32:46.000 He's one of the best strikers ever in the heavyweight division, and Mark Hunt hit him with bombs, and him and Bigfoot went five fucking rounds of death. 0.59

00:32:54.000 I have a Roots of Fight jacket that Dana White had made, Mark Hunt, Bigfoot, Silva 2. And he was so hyped up about the rematch that he had Jesse from Roots of Fight make a limited run of these Mark Hunt Bigfoot Silva 2 shirts.

00:33:10.000 And then the test came out.

00:33:12.000 And he got busted for having silverback gorilla levels of testosterone.

00:33:16.000 That's what I'm saying though.

00:33:18.000 So if he's going to do that stuff, okay, he can't compete.

00:33:21.000 Go find something else.

00:33:22.000 Go do jiu-jitsu.

00:33:23.000 But he's really good.

00:33:24.000 You know, he's a good fighter.

00:33:25.000 I mean, you watch his knockout of Overeem.

00:33:27.000 I want to see that guy fight.

00:33:29.000 I want to see that guy fight.

00:33:30.000 So do you say that they're all allowed to have a certain level of testosterone?

00:33:34.000 I think that's what you have to do.

00:33:36.000 I think with this new testing that they're doing, we're going to see more guys get busted.

00:33:39.000 We're going to see a watered-down version of the UFC, which we don't need right now, right?

00:33:43.000 It's already kind of watered down with how many shows we're putting on. 0.92

00:33:46.000 I keep saying we like I'm fucking working on the bus. 0.74

00:33:49.000 But how many shows UFC puts on, it's becoming a little too much. 0.99

00:33:53.000 Well now you take away, you do all this testing, you're going to get guys not doing shit, and you're going to get some bullshit fights. 0.99

00:33:59.000 Well that's what Petneras and Aldo were saying. 0.98

00:34:01.000 They were saying, look, you want to test, okay, you can test, but you're going to have less exciting fights.

00:34:06.000 100%.

00:34:06.000 Yeah, it's true.

00:34:07.000 And that's a real question.

00:34:09.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:34:11.000 I feel like...

00:34:12.000 I feel like if I had a favorite baseball player, and I mean, I'm not trying to...

00:34:20.000 It's so complicated in a way.

00:34:22.000 I had a favorite baseball player, and his bat speed starts slowing down in 31, 32. And with testosterone, he could play for another six years.

00:34:29.000 I don't want to watch that.

00:34:30.000 I want to see him play for six years.

00:34:30.000 Me too.

00:34:31.000 And I guess I sympathize a lot with it.

00:34:33.000 Roger Clemens.

00:34:33.000 Roger Clemens is in his 30s, or in his 40s.

00:34:35.000 39, yeah.

00:34:36.000 He got up in age, and he was actually getting better.

00:34:40.000 He was throwing fantastic.

00:34:40.000 I don't have a problem with that.

00:34:42.000 No.

00:34:42.000 If Michael Jordan could have played 10 more years doing steroids, let him do it.

00:34:45.000 But there's a difference between that and fighting, right?

00:34:47.000 I agree 100%.

00:34:48.000 Because fighting hurts the other guy?

00:34:51.000 Yes.

00:34:51.000 Well, Ronda Rousey did an interview once and she said it best.

00:34:54.000 She's like, this person, if they're on steroids, they can land shots they wouldn't be able to land.

00:34:59.000 They wouldn't have the energy to land if they weren't on it.

00:35:02.000 They would be able to get things off.

00:35:03.000 Blood doping, testosterone.

00:35:05.000 They could turn the tide.

00:35:06.000 They could wind up winning.

00:35:07.000 They can do things they couldn't do if they were normal and natural.

00:35:11.000 Combat sports is It's different.

00:35:12.000 I agree, because you're talking about health concerns.

00:35:14.000 Yeah, well, you're talking about doing damage to somebody, and that damage could essentially be permanent. 0.95

00:35:18.000 Like, no one knows better than you that the amount of training that you have to do in order to get in tip-top shape to fight is fucking ungodly. 0.99

00:35:28.000 Insane. 0.99

00:35:28.000 You said that you can only really maintain that level of fitness for like two weeks before shit starts popping and breaking. 0.99

00:35:34.000 You only have the peak when before you're about to fight, you've got a month. 0.96

00:35:39.000 You've got about a month at that level.

00:35:41.000 At that really high level. 1.00

00:35:42.000 Before shit starts breaking down. 1.00

00:35:43.000 When you're doing three a days wrestling practice, fucking battle ropes and fucking deadlifts and all that crazy shit, and you're going to war. 1.00

00:35:51.000 You're ready to go to war. 1.00

00:35:52.000 You've got your... 1.00

00:35:55.000 You got that fucking engine redlined and you can only do it for so long. 0.97

00:35:59.000 And the amount of effort that you put in, there's a direct correlation between the effort that you put in and what you can do when you actually get into the octagon on fight day. 0.98

00:36:10.000 If you're a guy like Dos Anjos versus Anthony Pettis, it's a perfect example. 0.99

00:36:17.000 Dos Anjos trained like a fucking wild demon. 0.97

00:36:21.000 And because of that, he had this insane cardio. 0.99

00:36:24.000 He was working out with the Marinoviches guy, Nick Kurson.

00:36:27.000 You listen to that podcast, right?

00:36:28.000 Yes. 1.00

00:36:28.000 Kurson's a fucking genius, man. 1.00

00:36:30.000 And talking about the strength and conditioning work those guys did, I mean, he's... 0.99

00:36:34.000 Breaking them.

00:36:35.000 Yes.

00:36:36.000 Just breaking them.

00:36:37.000 Another level. 0.95

00:36:38.000 Like, Marinovich had BJ Penn in the best fucking shape of his life, but when BJ talked about it, he's like, I couldn't hold my daughter in my arms when I got home. 0.98

00:36:46.000 Oh, my God. 0.97

00:36:46.000 I would get home from training. 0.97

00:36:47.000 I couldn't hold my daughter.

00:36:49.000 Like, he would try to hold his daughter.

00:36:50.000 He's like... 1.00

00:36:50.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:36:51.000 But when it came time to fight time and Diego Sanchez was in front of him, we got to see all-time great BJ Penn. 1.00

00:36:58.000 When BJ looked across the fucking cage, he had those crazy eyes. 0.99

00:37:01.000 He was like... 1.00

00:37:01.000 The best. 1.00

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:03.000 Dude.

00:37:03.000 I think the person who has it down...

00:37:05.000 I got a fucking BJ Penn jacket, motherfucker. 1.00

00:37:07.000 Damn! 1.00

00:37:08.000 Mundials. 1.00

00:37:08.000 That's right. 1.00

00:37:09.000 Look at BJ Penn. 1.00

00:37:10.000 The prodigy, bitch. 1.00

00:37:11.000 I'm not mad at that at all. 1.00

00:37:12.000 It's a fight style.

00:37:14.000 The person who has it down, too, who was kind of the first person that talked about doing these short camps was Ben Henderson.

00:37:22.000 We did an event together, and I forget who I was fighting, but I was like, yeah, about to go into camp, man.

00:37:27.000 He's like, when's your fight?

00:37:28.000 I was like, three months.

00:37:29.000 He's like, camp? 0.99

00:37:30.000 What the fuck are you going to camp for right now? 0.99

00:37:32.000 I was like, when do you do your camps? 0.99

00:37:33.000 He's like, five weeks, man.

00:37:34.000 I train so much.

00:37:35.000 When I go into camp, everything's redlining, so I just do five-week camps.

00:37:39.000 But he's never out of shape.

00:37:40.000 He's always training.

00:37:41.000 He's never out of shape.

00:37:41.000 He's a lighter guy, and he's always in the gym.

00:37:43.000 Yeah.

00:37:43.000 But he's saying when five weeks out, he's sparring, doing three days.

00:37:46.000 He can only do that for that long.

00:37:48.000 Yeah.

00:37:48.000 And he's not getting hurt.

00:37:49.000 You see Ben, he's never hurt, man.

00:37:50.000 I've never seen him get tired, either.

00:37:52.000 He's the best.

00:37:52.000 He's an animal.

00:37:53.000 I like the fact that he's going up to 170, and now that they're taking away the IVs, you're going to see a lot of that.

00:37:58.000 You are?

00:37:58.000 You're going to see a lot of that.

00:37:59.000 Yeah, a lot of guys are going to be forced to, but also, you're going to see a lot less endurance, because I guarantee you guys were blood doping.

00:38:06.000 Guarantee you.

00:38:07.000 I know for a fact guys were blood doping.

00:38:10.000 Of course.

00:38:10.000 I know for a fact.

00:38:11.000 Fighting for 25 minutes, anybody who's ever wrestled for 6 minutes or 9 minutes, God forbid, when it goes in overtime or whatever.

00:38:18.000 That's such a long time.

00:38:20.000 It's such an eon.

00:38:21.000 It's insane.

00:38:21.000 You literally want to die in 6 minutes.

00:38:24.000 It's the craziest shit in the world. 1.00

00:38:26.000 25 minutes, when I watch these guys kicking, punching, and wrestling for 25 minutes, it's kind of unnatural. 1.00

00:38:31.000 I don't know how you get in that kind of shape.

00:38:34.000 I mean, you do, but...

00:38:35.000 There's a lot of guys who do it.

00:38:36.000 No, no.

00:38:37.000 They're elite athletes.

00:38:38.000 I get it.

00:38:38.000 Well, no, no, no.

00:38:39.000 Don't get it twisted. 0.99

00:38:40.000 A lot of guys get in that shape without all that shit. 1.00

00:38:42.000 I've never used shit in my life. 1.00

00:38:43.000 I was in crazy shape. 0.99

00:38:45.000 So don't get it twisted.

00:38:46.000 But it's hard.

00:38:46.000 Guys like Ben Hampton, they don't even sniff protein powder.

00:38:49.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:50.000 Well, he takes supplements.

00:38:51.000 Yeah, but there's a lot of guys that don't take anything.

00:38:53.000 And they're fine.

00:38:54.000 And they're fine.

00:38:54.000 They're freaks.

00:38:55.000 They're fine.

00:38:56.000 There's certainly genetic advantages that some people have.

00:38:59.000 Some people absolutely have genetic advantages.

00:39:01.000 And, you know, you can't get around that.

00:39:04.000 You also can't get around guys using steroids, looking for advantage.

00:39:07.000 Because there's so much money involved in the sport, and it's an individual sport. 0.99

00:39:10.000 Steroids, I don't give a fuck if you test a guy every single day. 0.90

00:39:14.000 Steroids will find its way to the game. 1.00

00:39:16.000 It's part of history.

00:39:18.000 I was watching Chris Camozzi vs.

00:39:20.000 Jacare, the second fight.

00:39:23.000 Went exactly like the first one.

00:39:25.000 What's that?

00:39:25.000 Yeah, exactly the first one.

00:39:26.000 Thanks for nothing. 0.98

00:39:27.000 And I was watching this and I was thinking to myself, okay, this is, first of all, Chris Camozzi's got balls. 0.99

00:39:31.000 He's a tough fucking dude, okay? 0.99

00:39:33.000 It's game as they come. 1.00

00:39:34.000 Game as they come.

00:39:35.000 Takes his fight short notice against a guy who already beat him.

00:39:38.000 Already strangled him the first time they fought, right? 1.00

00:39:39.000 So here he is again with this fucking monster in front of him, right? 0.99

00:39:43.000 He got arm triangled like a white belt in the first fight. 1.00

00:39:46.000 Yeah. 0.51

00:39:46.000 Jacare could do that to black belts. 0.51

00:39:48.000 He could do it to anyone in the UFC. Yeah, I mean, he'll just manhandle you.

00:39:52.000 He just runs right through you, right?

00:39:54.000 His jujitsu is so tight. 0.98

00:39:56.000 He's so fucking physically strong. 0.99

00:39:58.000 Where did he learn his jujitsu? 0.99

00:39:59.000 Where did he come out of?

00:40:00.000 It's Brazil.

00:40:01.000 Yeah, I know, but what school was there?

00:40:03.000 That's a good question.

00:40:04.000 He's a multi-time world champion.

00:40:06.000 Anyways.

00:40:07.000 Point is, I was watching those two together, and I was watching them move around Jacare's clothes in the distance on them, and I'm like, these are two different species.

00:40:14.000 Jacare is such a super athlete. 0.98

00:40:17.000 He's fucking shredded. 0.99

00:40:19.000 He's got giant pythons for arms. 1.00

00:40:21.000 His biceps go down to his forearm.

00:40:24.000 Like, when I met Jacare, the first time I met Jacare was before he even was doing MMA. He was only doing jiu-jitsu.

00:40:31.000 I met him in 2003 in Brazil.

00:40:33.000 His bicep goes down to here.

00:40:36.000 Wow.

00:40:36.000 It goes down like it's longer than it's supposed to be.

00:40:40.000 That leverage makes you insane.

00:40:42.000 He's just got so much jujitsu strength.

00:40:45.000 He's born to choke.

00:40:46.000 And he's a great athlete.

00:40:48.000 He's just a natural.

00:40:48.000 And he works hard.

00:40:49.000 And his work ethic is insane. 0.95

00:40:51.000 He's an animal. 0.96

00:40:52.000 It's like Yo Romero.

00:40:53.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:40:54.000 Different animal.

00:40:55.000 Yo Romero is actually a better example.

00:40:57.000 So what do you do?

00:40:58.000 So if you're Chris Camozzi...

00:40:59.000 What I'm saying is, if you give Chris Camozzi all the steroids in the world, he's not gonna beat Yoel Romero.

00:41:04.000 He's not gonna be that guy.

00:41:05.000 He's never gonna be that guy.

00:41:07.000 He's a different guy. 0.99

00:41:08.000 I mean, Camozzi's tough as shit. 0.99

00:41:09.000 He'll beat the fuck out of a lot of dudes at 185. He's world-class. 0.99

00:41:13.000 But that Yoel Romero guy, when you watch that guy chase after Machida, he's fucking 40! 0.96

00:41:20.000 So what should Chris do? 1.00

00:41:22.000 His learning curve is so ridiculous. 0.90

00:41:24.000 If you're Chris, what do you do? 0.98

00:41:24.000 It's a good question. 0.98

00:41:25.000 It's a good question. 1.00

00:41:26.000 You can see why guys are like, fuck it. 1.00

00:41:29.000 Well, I mean, I don't know. 1.00

00:41:31.000 I don't know what you can do.

00:41:32.000 Well, it's the same thing that people who are not that athletic just don't play in the NFL now.

00:41:35.000 It becomes, this sport is, if the money's going to be there, this sport is going to attract more Yoel Romeros and Jacarets.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, but just because you're not Yoel Romero or you're not Terrell Owens in the NFL doesn't mean you shouldn't play.

00:41:49.000 Right.

00:41:49.000 And fighting might be different because there's so much skill and technique Fighting is different because less than 1% are Ronda Rousey's or Jon Jones or Cain Velasquez.

00:41:59.000 There's also some people like genetically have power.

00:42:04.000 Yes.

00:42:05.000 And you won't get that.

00:42:06.000 You're not going to get it.

00:42:08.000 You just can't get it.

00:42:08.000 You can't get it.

00:42:09.000 You don't have the scaffold.

00:42:10.000 Exactly.

00:42:11.000 Exactly.

00:42:12.000 These Mike Tyson characters.

00:42:13.000 You can teach Mike Tyson perfect technique.

00:42:17.000 You can show Mike Tyson how to throw punches perfectly.

00:42:21.000 What you're never going to do is develop that kind of power.

00:42:25.000 It's called genetics. 0.70

00:42:25.000 Unless you have that body. 0.70

00:42:26.000 It's genetics.

00:42:27.000 Nothing can do.

00:42:28.000 Floyd Mayweather is, in my opinion, the best boxer ever.

00:42:32.000 I agree with that.

00:42:32.000 If you want to talk about boxer, he gets hit the least.

00:42:35.000 He's beaten everybody.

00:42:37.000 Everybody in front of him.

00:42:38.000 Everyone.

00:42:38.000 It's arguable that his era is not as talented as the era of Sugar Ray Leonard or all those other guys, but when it comes to the ability to hit and not get hit, in my opinion, he's the best.

00:42:48.000 He's not my favorite.

00:42:49.000 My favorite is Roy Jones Jr. I agree.

00:42:51.000 Because Roy Jones Jr. was a motherfucker! 0.99

00:42:53.000 He was a motherfucker and he would I mean he just had his own style There was just like so much about Roy Jones It was just and in his prime during those few years where he was redlined and when he was at the top Virtually untouchable. 1.00

00:43:06.000 Untouchable. 1.00

00:43:07.000 The only guy that ever.

00:43:08.000 And knocking dudes out.

00:43:08.000 Dead.

00:43:09.000 That's the difference.

00:43:09.000 Hitting so hard too.

00:43:11.000 And clowning dudes.

00:43:13.000 Clowning dudes. 0.91

00:43:14.000 And put his hands behind his back and knocking guys out with one punch. 0.99

00:43:16.000 Making a show of it.

00:43:17.000 Yeah, I mean he knocked out Virgil Hill with a body shot. 0.94

00:43:20.000 Crazy.

00:43:20.000 With a right Right hand, not even on the liver.

00:43:23.000 Threw it on the left side of his body.

00:43:25.000 Wah! 0.94

00:43:25.000 Go to sleep! 0.94

00:43:27.000 He hit you so goddamn hard. 0.99

00:43:28.000 I think the thing in fighting, I don't mean to interrupt you. 0.99

00:43:31.000 But I'm going to get to the power thing, but Floyd Mayweather will never be able to punch like Tommy Hearns.

00:43:36.000 He'll never be able to punch like Julian Jackson.

00:43:38.000 He'll never be able to punch like John the Beast Mugabe or Marvin Hagler.

00:43:42.000 They don't have his footwork though.

00:43:43.000 That's true.

00:43:44.000 Or his elusiveness.

00:43:45.000 Absolutely.

00:43:45.000 He's a better boxer.

00:43:46.000 He's a better boxer.

00:43:47.000 But that power thing, you either have that thing or you do not have that thing.

00:43:52.000 And you can't teach it to people.

00:43:55.000 The difference in fighting these other sports, let's say I'm the, let's see, there's 53 guys on the NFL roster.

00:44:02.000 Let's say I'm the 50th best player on the San Francisco 49ers.

00:44:06.000 I'm making a good living.

00:44:07.000 I'm really not suffering that much damage.

00:44:09.000 Let's say I'm the 50th ranked fighter in the UFC. It's not a pretty life, man.

00:44:15.000 It's not great.

00:44:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:17.000 No.

00:44:17.000 I'm still doing exactly what the number one guy is doing as far as getting hit, competitions, fighting, camps, everything, but I'm not getting the same payment.

00:44:26.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:44:27.000 Yeah, and you're getting hurt all the time.

00:44:29.000 You're getting battered all the time.

00:44:30.000 You think about what you're making a year.

00:44:31.000 You're making like 30 grand a year or something like that.

00:44:33.000 Think about Jose Aldo.

00:44:35.000 All the press he did for the UFC, right?

00:44:38.000 You don't get paid for that press.

00:44:39.000 Not only that.

00:44:40.000 Think about his camp.

00:44:42.000 Then he has to go through all that.

00:44:43.000 And then he gets hurt, what, 12 days?

00:44:45.000 14 days before the fight?

00:44:47.000 15 days out.

00:44:47.000 So all that work, you don't get paid for any of that.

00:44:51.000 Are you excited about this, Chad Mendes?

00:44:54.000 Very excited.

00:44:56.000 Very excited about that fight.

00:44:57.000 As excited as Aldo, if not more.

00:44:59.000 Really?

00:45:00.000 Do you think that it's obviously a very...

00:45:04.000 They have this golden boy, Conor McGregor, and it feels like Chad Mendes is a...

00:45:10.000 This is a big challenge because Chad Mendes is such a sick wrestler.

00:45:14.000 I think Chad Mendes should be the favorite.

00:45:15.000 100% he should be the favorite.

00:45:16.000 I'm just amazed that somehow, someway...

00:45:20.000 They didn't choose someone like Nate Diaz.

00:45:23.000 Why did they choose Chad Mendes over this?

00:45:25.000 First of all, Nate Diaz is in a different weight class.

00:45:27.000 He's never made 145 in his life.

00:45:28.000 That's true, that's true.

00:45:29.000 Second of all, Chad Mendes knocked Ricardo Lamas dead.

00:45:34.000 Dead.

00:45:34.000 With one punch.

00:45:35.000 He just smashes dudes, goes after guys.

00:45:39.000 You're saying it's a bad, and I gotta agree with Brian on this, I think it's a bad business idea for the UFC to put Chad Mendes in there.

00:45:45.000 I think there's two horrible matchups for Conor.

00:45:48.000 Chad Mendes, Frankie Edgar.

00:45:50.000 Let's do whatever we can to get Conor to fight Aldo in October.

00:45:53.000 See, I disagree.

00:45:55.000 I think Chad Mendes easily could be as big a star as Conor McGregor.

00:45:59.000 He wouldn't talk like Conor McGregor did, but neither did George St. Pierre.

00:46:03.000 George St. Pierre was the biggest pay-per-view star of all time. 1.00

00:46:05.000 Because he was a gentleman, and he was a fucker. 1.00

00:46:07.000 He was. 1.00

00:46:08.000 No, no, no.

00:46:08.000 George St. Pierre got a million pay-per-view buys.

00:46:10.000 George and Chad Mendes is a different animal.

00:46:12.000 Chad Mendes got beat twice by Jose Aldo.

00:46:14.000 But the last fight was razor close, and there's an argument that could be made that if they fought in America, he would have won that decision.

00:46:20.000 There's also an argument to be made that if Jose Aldo didn't land that late punch after the first round that knocked Mendez down, had Mendez very hurt, it could have been a very different fight.

00:46:29.000 Chad Mendez, who knows how badly he got hurt by that late punch.

00:46:32.000 Either way, he's lost to him.

00:46:33.000 Twice.

00:46:34.000 It's true.

00:46:34.000 And so then he beats, let's say worst case scenario for the UFC, if I'm the UFC marketing team, it's like, God, Conor cannot get exposed.

00:46:42.000 If he goes in and gets knocked out in the first round, what are we going to do?

00:46:45.000 I don't think like that.

00:46:46.000 I do.

00:46:46.000 Because who's your biggest star right now?

00:46:48.000 Ronda Conor.

00:46:49.000 Yes. 0.98

00:46:49.000 Conor goes in there, he's talked all this trash that we love. 0.98

00:46:52.000 Conor's actually probably a bigger star than Ronda, which is crazy.

00:46:54.000 And he'd be by far the biggest star if he wins this fight.

00:46:58.000 Let me tell you something.

00:46:59.000 If Chad Mendes goes out there and starches him, he's a giant.

00:47:02.000 Still not as big as Conor.

00:47:03.000 Man, I don't know about all that.

00:47:05.000 I disagree, brother.

00:47:06.000 Let me tell you this.

00:47:07.000 Here's some real facts.

00:47:09.000 The numbers of tickets that are sold for this fight.

00:47:12.000 Okay, this is going to break box office records in Vegas.

00:47:15.000 Dana White told me that the tickets had plateaued.

00:47:18.000 Nobody was buying more tickets.

00:47:19.000 When Aldo pulled out and then Conor was forced to fight Chad Mendes, ticket sales spiked.

00:47:26.000 Really?

00:47:26.000 They went crazy.

00:47:27.000 I wonder how many were available though.

00:47:29.000 There wasn't much available, but people were buying them, scalping them.

00:47:32.000 Chad's family and friends bought tickets.

00:47:34.000 Dude, I'm telling you, there's a real spike.

00:47:36.000 I don't know what the numbers are, but I'm telling you, it's enough for Dana to talk to me about it on the phone.

00:47:40.000 You have Chad Mendes favored in this fight.

00:47:41.000 This is the thing.

00:47:43.000 Conor McGregor could knock out any man in the world at 145 pounds.

00:47:47.000 Because of his power. 0.99

00:47:48.000 He's got some serious fucking hands. 1.00

00:47:50.000 Serious fucking hands. 1.00

00:47:51.000 He throws his kicks almost disdainfully. 1.00

00:47:55.000 Almost like Nick Diaz style.

00:47:57.000 And what he's doing with his kicks, in a lot of ways, is creating patterns to come in and blast you with punches.

00:48:05.000 He throws all these kicks, like if you watch him fight Seaver, he's throwing kicks with minimal effort.

00:48:11.000 He's throwing them, he's smacking you with these kicks, but when he lands those punches, Ding!

00:48:16.000 These punches have some serious pop.

00:48:18.000 He's got beautiful.

00:48:19.000 What's that?

00:48:19.000 It is Seaver that he's doing that on.

00:48:21.000 It's true, but it's also Dustin Poirier.

00:48:23.000 He's throwing the same kicks.

00:48:24.000 He threw a front leg hook kick.

00:48:26.000 That was his first kick against Dustin Poirier.

00:48:28.000 Yeah.

00:48:28.000 He's a wild man.

00:48:30.000 But the point is, super confident, really believes his bullshit. 1.00

00:48:34.000 All this stuff that he's saying, We're not here to take part. 0.99

00:48:37.000 We're here to take over.

00:48:38.000 I love it.

00:48:39.000 He's Braveheart.

00:48:40.000 I love it. 1.00

00:48:40.000 This motherfucker, he's Mel Gibson. 1.00

00:48:42.000 He's on a horse. 1.00

00:48:42.000 I want him to win. 1.00

00:48:44.000 I think for the UFC, if he wins this next fight, he's the biggest star we've ever had.

00:48:49.000 I think he's bigger than Brock if he wins this fight.

00:48:51.000 Because of my position, because of what I do, and I had a conversation with this guy last night.

00:48:56.000 Who are you picking?

00:48:57.000 Who are you picking?

00:48:58.000 I don't pick anybody.

00:49:00.000 I'm not asking you to pick, Joe.

00:49:02.000 I'm not saying pick.

00:49:02.000 There's two times, maybe ever, three times, ever, where I was hoping somebody won.

00:49:10.000 That's the three times that you fought.

00:49:12.000 The fights that I called.

00:49:14.000 It's true.

00:49:15.000 I don't like admitting that, but the Metreon fight, I was like...

00:49:19.000 You know, the Arlowski fight, I'm like, I thought you got it.

00:49:22.000 And then, you know, I think it's really hard.

00:49:25.000 It's real hard when your friends fight.

00:49:27.000 Real, real, real, real hard.

00:49:30.000 I'm friendly, and I'm friends with a lot of those.

00:49:33.000 Not as closely as I am with you, but I'm friends with a lot of guys that fight. 0.99

00:49:36.000 I put that shit aside. 1.00

00:49:37.000 I put that shit aside and I go into those fights like an empty objective person. 1.00

00:49:43.000 I try to because I've done it before where I thought one guy would win and then I think maybe it like flavored my commentary and then I took criticism for it and then I would listen to that criticism and I'm gonna go, I think they got some good points. 0.99

00:49:54.000 You know, and so I adjusted my own approach to watching fights.

00:49:59.000 So now when I watch fights, I watch fights with...

00:50:02.000 I'm empty.

00:50:03.000 You know, I have styles that I really like, but then I like when people beat those styles.

00:50:07.000 I agree.

00:50:08.000 Like, Anderson's my favorite style of all time.

00:50:10.000 Right.

00:50:10.000 Watching Anderson Silva light guys up, I mean, come on, man.

00:50:13.000 Incredible.

00:50:14.000 The Chris Lieben fight, or the, you know, the Stefan Bonner fight.

00:50:17.000 There's only one guy in the UFC that I watch right now, and I'm excited to watch, I gotta be honest, and it's Conor.

00:50:22.000 That's it?

00:50:23.000 That's it.

00:50:23.000 Come on, man.

00:50:24.000 I'm saying for me, as far as like... 0.97

00:50:26.000 How about Yair Rodriguez, that badass motherfucker from Mexico that fought in the last UFC? He's a badass... 0.97

00:50:31.000 Jesus Christ!

00:50:31.000 But Conor, I'm like excited.

00:50:33.000 I'm like, I've never seen shit like this. 0.98

00:50:34.000 The way he moves, the way he talks, I'm like, I haven't seen this. 0.99

00:50:37.000 I love watching him.

00:50:38.000 I think he's amazing.

00:50:39.000 I think he's amazing, but I'm high on a lot of guys right now.

00:50:42.000 Right.

00:50:42.000 You know, that Amir...

00:50:44.000 What was... 0.99

00:50:46.000 What the fuck's his name? 0.99

00:50:47.000 What do you think of Wonderboy Thompson? 0.99

00:50:52.000 He moves differently. 1.00

00:50:53.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:50:54.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:50:55.000 It's a tough fight for Jake. 1.00

00:50:56.000 He's a serious striker.

00:50:57.000 Yeah, he's tough to deal with.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, he's a serious striker.

00:51:01.000 I guess just as far as the Conner thing goes, when they said it was going to be Chad Mendes, I was on set at UFC tonight.

00:51:08.000 The rumor was it was supposed to be Diaz.

00:51:11.000 Nick?

00:51:12.000 Or Nate?

00:51:12.000 Nate.

00:51:13.000 What?

00:51:14.000 Where was that rumor?

00:51:15.000 That was the rumor on set.

00:51:17.000 Well, that's a good sales pitch.

00:51:19.000 Yes, 100%.

00:51:20.000 But both have good hands, boxers.

00:51:21.000 It's a good matchup.

00:51:22.000 I can see Connor winning that.

00:51:23.000 Matt Mon Armour Connors.

00:51:25.000 He's a beast. 0.81

00:51:26.000 He's a little beast. 1.00

00:51:26.000 Bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:51:28.000 But, so, do you think... 1.00

00:51:30.000 He's under 145, but 145 is deep.

00:51:32.000 Super deep.

00:51:33.000 Do you think that Jose Aldo, even though he's been a champion, he's amazing, do you think Jose Aldo, in some ways, is actually an easier fight for Conor than his Chapman is?

00:51:42.000 No, no.

00:51:42.000 Hell no.

00:51:42.000 Anyone who says that's crazy.

00:51:44.000 Nobody's easy...

00:51:45.000 Jose Aldo is never easy.

00:51:47.000 I thought Jose was going to win that fight.

00:51:49.000 But Jose Aldo is not a pressure wrestler the way Chad Mendes is going to take you down and put you on your back.

00:51:53.000 This is what's scary about Aldo.

00:51:55.000 First of all, his leg kicks are as good as anybody that's ever lived. 0.99

00:51:58.000 His fucking leg kicks are lightning fast. 0.99

00:52:01.000 And when he lands them, you only have a couple of those you can take. 1.00

00:52:04.000 Because you're diminished.

00:52:06.000 You're diminished with the first kick.

00:52:07.000 I'm telling you, man.

00:52:08.000 I've seen guys kick live.

00:52:09.000 Aldo has a different kind of kick.

00:52:11.000 It's so fast.

00:52:12.000 I think he's faster than Conor.

00:52:15.000 I think people will be surprised.

00:52:17.000 I think he's actually faster.

00:52:18.000 He's very, very fast.

00:52:19.000 I've never really seen Conor as being fast.

00:52:21.000 I just see him as being accurate.

00:52:22.000 His hands are fast.

00:52:24.000 He's accurate.

00:52:24.000 He's very fast.

00:52:25.000 He's fast.

00:52:25.000 Especially for how big he is.

00:52:27.000 He also has great penetration on his punches.

00:52:30.000 When he throws that left hand, he reaches.

00:52:32.000 Boom! 0.99

00:52:33.000 He's going through you.

00:52:35.000 He wanted to bet Dana White $3 million that he knocks out Chad in the second round.

00:52:39.000 What?!

00:52:39.000 He's that confident?

00:52:41.000 See, that was my next question.

00:52:43.000 Has he been very vocal?

00:52:44.000 Yeah, but then if Chad Mendes gets into the third round and he knocks Chad Mendes out in the third round, he loses three million.

00:52:49.000 You're down three million.

00:52:49.000 He'd be so depressed, son.

00:52:51.000 He'd be so depressed when that fucking bell rings. 1.00

00:52:53.000 Goddamn, man. 1.00

00:52:54.000 I didn't know... 0.98

00:52:55.000 So he's been very vocal now, the same way with Chad Mendes, basically.

00:52:58.000 Of course, you can't...

00:52:59.000 Oh, there's no backtracking.

00:53:00.000 Chad Mendes has been laughing at him, though.

00:53:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:53:02.000 Listen, Chad Mendes is a demon. 0.99

00:53:04.000 He's a motherfucker. 1.00

00:53:05.000 You ever see Chad Mendes jump out of a fucking pool? 1.00

00:53:07.000 First of all, Chad Mendes is only 5'6". 0.99

00:53:09.000 He's a super athlete. 0.99

00:53:10.000 He gets to the 3' side of the pool, jumps out of the pool, lands on the fucking edge, and then does a backflip into the pool. 0.99

00:53:17.000 That's so sick to me. 0.99

00:53:18.000 Watch this video. 0.99

00:53:20.000 Chad Mendes is an animal. 0.91

00:53:21.000 He's an animal.

00:53:22.000 Because I've seen BJ Penn do that.

00:53:23.000 Yeah, but not flip afterwards.

00:53:25.000 Not like Chad.

00:53:26.000 Chad Mendes is a legit super athlete.

00:53:29.000 That's freaky.

00:53:30.000 But, here's something... 1.00

00:53:31.000 Watch this shit. 1.00

00:53:32.000 This is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

00:53:34.000 Watch him standing there. 1.00

00:53:35.000 Watch this.

00:53:35.000 Look how thick he is.

00:53:36.000 Yeah, watch.

00:53:36.000 He's standing there by the three foot side.

00:53:40.000 Jumps out of the pool, boom, and then does a backflip right into it. 0.97

00:53:43.000 He's a monster, dude. 0.74

00:53:44.000 Super monster. 0.99

00:53:45.000 Serious athlete.

00:53:46.000 His second fight with Jose Aldo, if I could make one fight and put it to the future, like lock it up, like watch this, this is what the UFC is, it'd be his second fight with Jose Aldo.

00:53:56.000 The technique, the back and forth, the five rounds, it's one of the best fights in UFC history.

00:54:02.000 It was a great fight.

00:54:03.000 Phenomenal fight, man.

00:54:04.000 It was to the wire.

00:54:05.000 It is so incredible.

00:54:06.000 To the wire with the best.

00:54:07.000 You're talking about two elite, elite fights.

00:54:10.000 Both in their prime.

00:54:11.000 A guy in Aldo who you gotta think is at least top two or three pound for pound.

00:54:16.000 I think the number one guy in the world is Mighty Mouse.

00:54:18.000 I've said this for a long time.

00:54:20.000 He's the best.

00:54:21.000 He's the best.

00:54:21.000 I can see that.

00:54:22.000 He's the best.

00:54:22.000 I see that argument.

00:54:24.000 I just don't...

00:54:26.000 He's so good.

00:54:27.000 I have Jose Aldo over him.

00:54:29.000 I have Mighty Mouse 2, I have Jose 1. I don't.

00:54:31.000 Because Mighty Mouse never slows down.

00:54:33.000 He's as good in the fifth round.

00:54:34.000 He's 125 pounds.

00:54:36.000 That's true.

00:54:36.000 Aldo's only 20 pounds heavier though.

00:54:38.000 But Aldo's a big cut, bro.

00:54:40.000 Aldo's a big cut.

00:54:41.000 You don't think it's a big cut to make 125?

00:54:43.000 He already is, but you know what?

00:54:45.000 He makes it tougher, too, because he's got a different style.

00:54:47.000 I agree.

00:54:48.000 I saw Mighty Mouse walking in the Seattle airport, and it was just there I was, and I kind of nodded at him and nodded.

00:54:54.000 He kept walking, and nobody even noticed him.

00:54:57.000 And I thought to myself, that right there is, if he was a heavyweight, he would be just mobbed.

00:55:01.000 That's one of the baddest people on the planet at his weight.

00:55:03.000 I heard a story.

00:55:04.000 He couldn't get into a club.

00:55:05.000 I believe it.

00:55:06.000 And DC was like, bro, this is the world champion of the UFC, man.

00:55:10.000 The bouncer was like, okay, go ahead.

00:55:12.000 They weren't going to let him into the club.

00:55:13.000 You don't get love when you're 125. Bouncers need to fucking pay attention to lower weight classes. 1.00

00:55:18.000 Get that ass whooped. 1.00

00:55:19.000 Get that ass whooped by Mighty Mouse. 1.00

00:55:21.000 He'll spin around behind you. 1.00

00:55:23.000 I guarantee 135 is hard for him, I guarantee, because he's thick.

00:55:27.000 He's a little thick.

00:55:27.000 125, right.

00:55:28.000 He's thick. 1.00

00:55:30.000 He's not a big guy, but he's a fucking... 1.00

00:55:33.000 He's the best! 1.00

00:55:34.000 He's an elite, elite fighter.

00:55:35.000 The way he moves, in my opinion, if I wanted a young fighter, I'd say, you want to watch somebody?

00:55:41.000 You want to learn what they do?

00:55:42.000 Watch this guy.

00:55:42.000 He never gets hit.

00:55:43.000 You have to have that body type, though.

00:55:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:44.000 With his style...

00:55:46.000 Maybe. 0.99

00:55:47.000 Like, my fat ass, when I was young, you showed me Mighty Mouse, I'm like, yeah, no, I just can't do that. 1.00

00:55:51.000 Well, you're carrying around 250 pounds. 1.00

00:55:53.000 Well, boxing's that way.

00:55:54.000 Boxing's that way.

00:55:55.000 And you can't fight the way Floyd Mayweather or Roy Jones Jr. fights without having a lot of that ability just to get insane speed.

00:56:05.000 I got two words for you.

00:56:06.000 Muhammad Ali.

00:56:07.000 True.

00:56:08.000 Muhammad Ali, when he was in his prime...

00:56:10.000 But he had that kind of body.

00:56:11.000 But when he was in his prime, he was 220 pounds.

00:56:14.000 That's why he did not have that body.

00:56:14.000 What I'm saying is that his physicality, he's such an athlete.

00:56:20.000 He's big.

00:56:21.000 When you watch him as Cassius Clay, he moved like a little man.

00:56:23.000 He was so fast and smooth.

00:56:25.000 And that's really hard for...

00:56:27.000 That's a very rare example of a huge guy who moved like a small guy.

00:56:31.000 You have to be...

00:56:31.000 I was wearing a Roots of Fight, it said Cassius Clay shirt.

00:56:34.000 I got one of those.

00:56:35.000 Yeah, I love it, right?

00:56:37.000 It's the white one.

00:56:37.000 It's half my wardrobe is Roots of Fight, by the way.

00:56:39.000 Me too. 0.99

00:56:39.000 Sometimes I feel like an asshole wearing fight shirts all the time. 0.99

00:56:43.000 But I'm lying at a Starbucks. 1.00

00:56:45.000 This old white dude comes up to me and goes, Hey man, that shirt's offensive.

00:56:50.000 I went, what?

00:56:51.000 He goes, that shirt's offensive.

00:56:52.000 I went...

00:56:53.000 I forgot what I was wearing. 0.99

00:56:55.000 I looked down like, what the fuck is he talking about? 0.99

00:56:57.000 And he goes, that was his slave name. 0.99

00:56:59.000 I was like, okay, cool, man.

00:57:00.000 Have a good day.

00:57:01.000 He's like, that shirt's a fit.

00:57:02.000 I wouldn't wear that, man.

00:57:03.000 I was like, bro, beat it, nerd. 1.00

00:57:05.000 I didn't make the fucking shirt. 0.99

00:57:07.000 I'm some Muhammad Ali fan. 0.99

00:57:08.000 It's old school.

00:57:09.000 It's historical.

00:57:10.000 Yeah, get out of here.

00:57:12.000 It's got Fifth Street Gym in Miami on the patch as well.

00:57:14.000 And he only changed his name when he converted to Islam anyway.

00:57:17.000 Well, not only that, he is getting proceeds from that shirt.

00:57:20.000 Like, he authorized the sale of that shirt.

00:57:21.000 Well, that shirt represents who he was when he fought in the Olympics.

00:57:25.000 Yeah, how about I piss in your coffee? 0.87

00:57:27.000 How about I piss in that dark rose?

00:57:29.000 Yeah, he won a gold medal, which he threw into the St. Louis River, I believe. 1.00

00:57:32.000 Goddamn white people. 1.00

00:57:33.000 Yeah, fucking white people, man. 1.00

00:57:36.000 Fucking white people. 1.00

00:57:37.000 Fucking white people. 1.00

00:57:38.000 I've been working on this bit about how I secretly root for black people. 1.00

00:57:41.000 Like, if I see a black homeless guy versus a white homeless guy, I'm always like, you know what, man?

00:57:46.000 You're probably accused of a crime you didn't commit.

00:57:48.000 Here you go.

00:57:48.000 When I see a white guy, I'm like, wash your face and wear some glasses.

00:57:52.000 Well, let's keep working.

00:57:53.000 Might want to work on that, but...

00:57:54.000 Anyways! 1.00

00:57:56.000 Fuck off, you guys. 1.00

00:57:57.000 Hey, that's not the big, you assholes. 1.00

00:57:59.000 I'm just saying... 1.00

00:57:59.000 Yeah, whatever. 1.00

00:58:00.000 Hey, speaking of shitty things... 0.95

00:58:02.000 Tainted from now on. 0.95

00:58:02.000 Speaking of shitty things, how about Travis Brown? 0.95

00:58:05.000 Oh, boy. 0.98

00:58:07.000 Hold. 0.96

00:58:08.000 Hold. 0.96

00:58:09.000 Awkward. 0.98

00:58:10.000 UFC at Fight Week said, hey listen, we can't have you signing and hitting bitches, so we're going to have you sit this one out, mkay? 1.00

00:58:17.000 So what is going on with him? 0.97

00:58:19.000 His former fiancee, or wife, former fiancee, right?

00:58:24.000 Instagram.

00:58:25.000 Just a bully beatdown, black eye, horrible bruises.

00:58:28.000 Her knee, her leg. 0.98

00:58:30.000 Everything said, I'm sick of this.

00:58:32.000 I can't believe I stuck through it through this long.

00:58:34.000 You know, physical abuse, domestic abuse is nothing.

00:58:38.000 You know, not a laughing matter or whatever.

00:58:39.000 Posted an Instagram picture, and it's horrible.

00:58:41.000 If you guys haven't seen it, it's horrible.

00:58:42.000 It's interesting that it's not on the underground.

00:58:44.000 Like, it's not on the front page where all the news is.

00:58:46.000 They're trying to keep it classy.

00:58:47.000 Well, the UFC frickin' yanked him from this fight week.

00:58:52.000 They did?

00:58:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:54.000 How about Britney Palmer? 1.00

00:58:55.000 Britney Palmer's fucking husband gets a million dollars bond. 1.00

00:59:00.000 Attempted murder. 1.00

00:59:01.000 Attempted murder.

00:59:02.000 He tried to choke her. 0.98

00:59:03.000 First of all, his jiu-jitsu is so weak.

00:59:05.000 Right? 0.77

00:59:06.000 If I'm really attempting to choke her, she's dead. 0.95

00:59:08.000 Well, that's what I mean. 0.93

00:59:08.000 That's what I said. 0.93

00:59:09.000 I'll tell you what.

00:59:10.000 It's real attempted murder?

00:59:11.000 That's what I said.

00:59:12.000 How is she alive?

00:59:12.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:59:13.000 How is she going to have a choke? 1.00

00:59:14.000 Is she Kimbo with Shamrock?

00:59:15.000 What's going on here?

00:59:18.000 I'll tell you what, though, with Travis Brown, when I saw this girl all beat up, I was like, I feel you, man. 0.99

00:59:24.000 He wept my ass. 0.99

00:59:25.000 Girl, go for a takedown! 1.00

00:59:27.000 Go for a jiu-jitsu! 0.99

00:59:32.000 He slapped the shit out of me, too. 0.99

00:59:34.000 I feel you. 1.00

00:59:36.000 He slapped the piss out of me.

00:59:38.000 I feel like reaching out to her and being like, you want to talk about it? 0.96

00:59:41.000 Just being like, girl, I feel you. 0.96

00:59:43.000 He beat the shit out of me, at least in front of millions of people. 0.93

00:59:46.000 Yeah, you were alone. 0.99

00:59:47.000 I was in my underwear. 0.98

00:59:49.000 He beat the fuck out of me. 0.97

00:59:50.000 I don't even fight anymore. 0.89

00:59:52.000 You want to talk about it?

00:59:54.000 Do you think, I mean, when you see a girl like Brittany, she's a nice kid, man.

01:00:00.000 I mean, I don't understand it.

01:00:02.000 I just don't understand it.

01:00:03.000 She is smoking.

01:00:03.000 She's smoking.

01:00:04.000 Apparently, he forced her into getting a bunch of plastic surgeries, too. 0.99

01:00:07.000 That's what she's also saying.

01:00:09.000 The reason why she had all that work done was... 1.00

01:00:10.000 Oh, really?

01:00:11.000 The rich kid who was handed money and moved to L.A.? Was he handed money?

01:00:16.000 It doesn't work out.

01:00:16.000 That's what I've heard.

01:00:17.000 That's what I've heard.

01:00:18.000 I don't know where he earned his money.

01:00:19.000 I always got along with the guy.

01:00:21.000 He's always cool to me.

01:00:23.000 I enjoyed talking to him when he was with her.

01:00:25.000 I mean, I hate saying it now because I know...

01:00:28.000 I allegedly know what he did, so I hate him, you know, fundamentally on principles.

01:00:33.000 That's one thing I don't play with, man.

01:00:34.000 I like her, man.

01:00:35.000 Me too.

01:00:35.000 I really like her.

01:00:36.000 Every time I talk to her, she's sassy, she's always fun, we're always joking around.

01:00:40.000 She's one of the rare girls in the octagon where, you know, she has a talent, and it's painting.

01:00:44.000 If you've seen Britney's paintings, they're dope, man.

01:00:46.000 She's a good artist. 0.97

01:00:47.000 I thought about reaching out and having her paint some shit of Big Brown, putting it up in my house. 0.95

01:00:50.000 Oh, she'd be happy to do that. 0.98

01:00:51.000 Yeah, she's super legit. 1.00

01:00:52.000 She's always been like a down-to-earth girl.

01:00:55.000 She's fun. 0.93

01:00:55.000 I like hanging out with her. 0.93

01:00:57.000 She's coming to some of my shows.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, I love looking at her Instagram late at night.

01:01:01.000 What? 1.00

01:01:02.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:01:03.000 She's married. 1.00

01:01:04.000 She's married.

01:01:04.000 Not anymore.

01:01:05.000 Are they officially divorced?

01:01:09.000 Dude, he's out on a million dollars bail.

01:01:12.000 A million. 0.99

01:01:14.000 That's some Shook Knight shit. 0.99

01:01:15.000 But hear me out. 0.99

01:01:16.000 Hear me out on this.

01:01:19.000 Here we go, the white knight.

01:01:21.000 Go ahead.

01:01:22.000 Go ahead.

01:01:23.000 Hey, guys.

01:01:23.000 Hear me out, man.

01:01:24.000 She could have been...

01:01:25.000 Guys!

01:01:26.000 It was attempted.

01:01:27.000 I'm giving him jujitsu lessons at four, so hurry this up.

01:01:29.000 But since we don't really know the details, when I hear that it was attempted murder and he had choked her, there is the question of...

01:01:40.000 She got away...

01:01:42.000 What are the circumstances?

01:01:44.000 For me, I'm always guarded about this.

01:01:46.000 I want to hear more about the case before I condemn the case.

01:01:48.000 I don't.

01:01:48.000 You know what I do?

01:01:49.000 I go, oh, you put your hands on her? 1.00

01:01:50.000 Done.

01:01:51.000 Yeah, it's done. 0.99

01:01:51.000 What do you mean you want the fucking details? 0.99

01:01:53.000 Here's the only time. 0.99

01:01:55.000 Hey, Bobby Brown.

01:01:56.000 Hey, Bobby Brown.

01:01:57.000 Listen, you don't know what happened. 1.00

01:01:58.000 Listen, you're a fucking man, okay? 1.00

01:02:01.000 Here's the only time it's okay to hit a woman when she's trying to kill you. 1.00

01:02:05.000 She's got a knife and she's trying to kill you. 1.00

01:02:06.000 Okay. 1.00

01:02:07.000 And you're saving your life and you hit her.

01:02:08.000 That's what was happening.

01:02:10.000 You would have heard that.

01:02:12.000 It would have come out.

01:02:13.000 He would have said that.

01:02:14.000 He hasn't said anything like that.

01:02:15.000 There's no evidence at all.

01:02:16.000 Maybe that's because his lawyers are telling him not to.

01:02:19.000 If he got arrested on a million dollar bond...

01:02:21.000 Britney Palmer's not trying to stab anybody. 1.00

01:02:23.000 I might be wrong.

01:02:24.000 You're right.

01:02:25.000 You're right.

01:02:25.000 I don't know.

01:02:26.000 I'm just saying we're talking now. 1.00

01:02:27.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:02:28.000 Fuck that. 1.00

01:02:29.000 You're right, I don't know. 1.00

01:02:30.000 You're right, I don't know.

01:02:31.000 But...

01:02:32.000 It does not matter.

01:02:33.000 That's the only possibility.

01:02:35.000 Right.

01:02:35.000 Is that she's coming at him with a knife.

01:02:37.000 Sure.

01:02:37.000 Or a gun.

01:02:38.000 And she's trying to kill him. 0.95

01:02:38.000 It's like Chris Brown and Rihanna. 0.95

01:02:40.000 They're like, yeah, well, Rihanna did some shit. 1.00

01:02:41.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:02:43.000 I don't care what she did. 1.00

01:02:44.000 You can't do that.

01:02:44.000 If a girl I love punched me in the face, I'm going to be very upset.

01:02:47.000 I'm not punching her back.

01:02:49.000 Right.

01:02:49.000 No.

01:02:49.000 I'm going to give her a sharp liver.

01:02:51.000 I'm going to hit her right in the liver. 1.00

01:02:53.000 Right in the liver. 1.00

01:02:54.000 Right.

01:02:56.000 I'm going to take some heat for this.

01:02:57.000 I'm just kidding, though.

01:02:58.000 I would never touch her. 1.00

01:03:00.000 I would headbutt her solar plexus. 1.00

01:03:01.000 I'd grab her ass. 1.00

01:03:02.000 I would never hit her. 1.00

01:03:04.000 I would put her in the tightest anaconda choke you've ever seen. 1.00

01:03:08.000 I've never choked anybody, but I did take my wife's back once, and I put the body triangle on her just to let her know what's up. 0.88

01:03:14.000 Obviously naked, right?

01:03:15.000 It's fun. 0.99

01:03:16.000 Put that body triangle on her. 1.00

01:03:25.000 I had a girlfriend who would get drunk and get jealous and hit me. 1.00

01:03:30.000 She tried to take my head off with a boot. 1.00

01:03:32.000 Did you marry her?

01:03:33.000 Nope.

01:03:33.000 Get close?

01:03:34.000 I don't want to talk about it.

01:03:36.000 But my buddy, we were at a party, and it was all great, and she was the kind of person who would get drunk and you wouldn't know it.

01:03:44.000 My buddy was there, and he said, I saw, he said he saw the whole thing, and this is where I'm just, hear me out, because she thought I was looking at a friend who was there at my party, a girl, and she just attacked me physically.

01:03:58.000 And I countered by getting her in underhooks or something, and I kind of hip-tossed her away from me, and we both crashed through a window. 0.98

01:04:08.000 Oh, my God.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, not a window, but adjoining doors, you know, those French doors.

01:04:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:13.000 And my buddy saw the whole fucking thing. 0.99

01:04:15.000 Glass? 1.00

01:04:16.000 Yes.

01:04:17.000 So glass everywhere.

01:04:18.000 Yes, glass everywhere, and the door broke.

01:04:20.000 That's assault, brother.

01:04:21.000 Well, hold on.

01:04:22.000 My buddy saw the whole thing from its inception.

01:04:24.000 He saw her attack me.

01:04:26.000 Somebody else saw only me hip tossing her through the, well, kind of, not really hip tossing, but getting her away from me, and he saw me hip tossing her through the glass.

01:04:37.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:04:37.000 If that person saw that, it looked like I was throwing her through fucking doors. 0.99

01:04:41.000 I get it, man. 0.99

01:04:41.000 I wasn't. 0.99

01:04:42.000 Here's the problem. 0.99

01:04:43.000 And my buddy came to my defense and said, just so you know, I saw the whole fucking thing. 0.98

01:04:46.000 I saw her jump on you and attack you, and you were trying to get her away and calm her down. 0.98

01:04:51.000 And then I brought her, because there was a party, into my garage, held her down and said, calm down. 0.97

01:04:58.000 And I was holding her physically down, physically, so she couldn't move and she was screaming.

01:05:03.000 Well, that's kidnapping.

01:05:04.000 Well, you can say a lot of things.

01:05:06.000 I'm just saying.

01:05:07.000 If I'm a cop, I'm like, okay, that's kidnapping.

01:05:08.000 That's what I mean.

01:05:09.000 That's assault.

01:05:09.000 That's what I mean.

01:05:10.000 It is.

01:05:11.000 I could have been arrested for assault when what I was doing was doing one.

01:05:14.000 I was trying to protect myself by holding her down.

01:05:16.000 I was trying not to create an embarrassing situation.

01:05:18.000 And I was trying to, like, sort of extinguish the problem.

01:05:21.000 Here's one for you.

01:05:22.000 What do you do if you do UFC? What's that?

01:05:25.000 What do you do if you're the UFC? They obviously suspend him just for UFC Fight Week.

01:05:29.000 Makes sense.

01:05:29.000 Well, we're not talking about Brittany anymore.

01:05:30.000 We're talking about Travis now.

01:05:31.000 No, we're talking about Travis Brown. 0.95

01:05:32.000 We're just talking about, also, sometimes, as we all know, you can get in a situation where, like, just that example, I could have been, if somebody had seen a segment of that, I could have been in a big fucking trouble.

01:05:42.000 Yeah, for sure, let's get over your situation.

01:05:43.000 Okay, well, here, let's talk about reality, okay?

01:05:46.000 If he did beat her, okay?

01:05:49.000 If he did, and he did more than once, you gotta cut him. 0.80

01:05:52.000 Of course.

01:05:53.000 Right? 0.57

01:05:53.000 You gotta cut him. 0.57

01:05:54.000 Yes. 1.00

01:05:54.000 And that's what they did with Rumble Johnson, and then they found out Rumble Johnson was a lot of bullshit. 1.00

01:05:57.000 It was his baby mama, and it was a lot of nonsense, and it wasn't real. 0.99

01:06:00.000 She didn't have these pictures.

01:06:01.000 Exactly.

01:06:02.000 But there's also women that will pretend. 1.00

01:06:04.000 Now, I have a friend, and he was breaking up with his girlfriend, and she said, and he recorded it, and she started saying things like, you know, I'm going to tell the police you hit me, I'm going to throw myself down a flight of stairs, all this kind of crazy shit. 0.98

01:06:16.000 I had it done to me. 0.93

01:06:17.000 It happens.

01:06:18.000 Yes.

01:06:18.000 It does happen.

01:06:19.000 She opened the windows and said, stop hitting me. 1.00

01:06:21.000 Start screaming, stop hitting me.

01:06:22.000 You know what, though?

01:06:22.000 I think that's the exception.

01:06:23.000 I've got to be honest.

01:06:24.000 I don't know about that.

01:06:25.000 We don't know.

01:06:26.000 It may be the exception.

01:06:28.000 Hey! 0.99

01:06:28.000 Billy Girl Hitter! 0.99

01:06:30.000 How about you back up?

01:06:31.000 But seriously, there are people that are deceptive.

01:06:34.000 There are people that manipulate.

01:06:36.000 We've all seen Gone Girl, yes.

01:06:37.000 It's possible.

01:06:38.000 I agree.

01:06:39.000 Whether it's the exception or not, it's not the point.

01:06:42.000 Is it possible?

01:06:44.000 Yes.

01:06:44.000 Does it happen?

01:06:45.000 Yes.

01:06:45.000 All the time.

01:06:46.000 I had a friend who was accused of rape, but he kept all the text messages and showed the prosecutor. 0.99

01:06:51.000 Well, how about this fucking guy in Virginia? 0.99

01:06:52.000 The guy with the girls walking around with a mattress on her back? 1.00

01:06:55.000 He's got text messages from her asking him to come over and fuck her in the butt. 1.00

01:06:58.000 Yeah, that's tough. 1.00

01:06:59.000 Yeah, that's tough.

01:07:01.000 That's why we have courts, and that's why we have due process, and that's why in this country you're innocent until proven guilty.

01:07:07.000 It's called habeas corpus.

01:07:08.000 I'll tell you who's upset, but we're not.

01:07:10.000 You're guilty in the court of public opinion.

01:07:12.000 That's what I mean.

01:07:13.000 Travis is guilty.

01:07:14.000 You look at his Instagram, the comments are tough.

01:07:16.000 Yeah.

01:07:16.000 Tough.

01:07:17.000 Look, the public jumps on it right away.

01:07:20.000 If he really did do that, he is guilty, right?

01:07:22.000 We all agree.

01:07:23.000 Yes.

01:07:24.000 If he really did beat her up, we all agree he's got to be cut, right?

01:07:27.000 You think UFC cuts him, then he goes to Bellator and just dominates?

01:07:31.000 Listen, I think he goes to jail.

01:07:33.000 I mean, if he really did beat her up, he goes to jail.

01:07:35.000 You'd have to, right?

01:07:36.000 It's assault.

01:07:37.000 It's assault, brother.

01:07:38.000 Especially with a really pretty... 1.00

01:07:39.000 She's beautiful.

01:07:40.000 She is smoking hot. 0.97

01:07:41.000 And she has legit bruises. 0.99

01:07:42.000 They're hard.

01:07:43.000 And he is huge.

01:07:44.000 He's a giant.

01:07:45.000 He's so big.

01:07:45.000 He's a giant man.

01:07:46.000 I remember when he came to the octagon, I was like, Jesus Christ.

01:07:48.000 I can imagine her. 1.00

01:07:50.000 He jumped in, I was like, holy fuck, bro. 1.00

01:07:53.000 Are we the same weight class? 1.00

01:07:55.000 We obviously don't know what the fuck happened. 0.99

01:07:57.000 We don't know. 0.98

01:07:58.000 We have no idea.

01:07:59.000 I mean, it could be another, I'll throw myself down a flight of stairs thing.

01:08:02.000 I always take the girl's side on this.

01:08:04.000 Well, it's the smart thing to take.

01:08:06.000 I mean, she's the victim.

01:08:07.000 The worst thing you could do is question someone who's been victimized.

01:08:11.000 Man, I don't know what really happened. 1.00

01:08:12.000 That's fucked up, man. 0.99

01:08:13.000 It's fucked up, right? 0.99

01:08:14.000 Yeah, and for the most part, I think that I have to believe, and it's just I don't know this person, I don't know Travis, I don't know the situation, but I do feel like, you know, when you post pictures like that to Instagram, I feel like this is definitely not the first time he's been hitting her, 0.99

01:08:29.000 and she's finally had enough and decided this is the only way I can protect myself.

01:08:34.000 She said she was embarrassed that she waited so long.

01:08:36.000 Yeah, man.

01:08:37.000 And with a girl like that, I mean, this is the only time in human history where someone's been able to do something like that.

01:08:42.000 Like, take a photo, put that photo on your Instagram and instantly...

01:08:45.000 That's the power of Instagram. 0.96

01:08:46.000 There are a lot of countries right now in this world where you, as a wife, if you're getting the shit beat out of you, there are no laws that protect you. 1.00

01:08:53.000 Travis needs to move there. 0.97

01:08:54.000 It's a good spot for him. 1.00

01:08:56.000 If that's his thing, take your ass there. 1.00

01:08:58.000 Yeah, I don't, you know. 1.00

01:08:59.000 That's tough, man.

01:09:00.000 It makes me, when I hear like this Aaron guy and Brittany, I like the guy.

01:09:04.000 I mean, you know, I talk to him.

01:09:06.000 I enjoy talking to him.

01:09:07.000 Was he a perfect person?

01:09:08.000 No.

01:09:09.000 He's alright. 0.97

01:09:10.000 Obviously, I wasn't in a relationship with him, and I don't know what the fuck happened between us two. 0.96

01:09:13.000 We don't know. 0.96

01:09:14.000 All I need to hear is, okay, you beat her. 0.98

01:09:17.000 You choked her. 0.98

01:09:18.000 Cool.

01:09:18.000 Not my friend.

01:09:19.000 Don't talk to me when we see each other.

01:09:21.000 If that's really what happened, it's...

01:09:23.000 Brittany, call me.

01:09:23.000 I mean, it's very simple.

01:09:25.000 It's very cut and dry.

01:09:27.000 Brittany, I am available.

01:09:28.000 Number 720. No, I'm just saying to you.

01:09:32.000 Yeah, it's one ulterior motive, you son of a bitch. 1.00

01:09:34.000 No, I'm just saying, if you need a place to stay, I live in Marina. 1.00

01:09:36.000 No, but it's not like that, man. 0.99

01:09:37.000 It's fuck that people get to that place. 1.00

01:09:39.000 It's fuck that people that used to be in love, they were in love enough to get married, they had a big crazy wedding, they held hands. 1.00

01:09:45.000 We know one thing, it's a fine line between love and hate, man. 1.00

01:09:49.000 If there's one thing, they always say, like, the most dangerous place for a woman sometimes, or even a man, is the bedroom. 1.00

01:09:54.000 Shit flares, fucking tempers, insanity happens. 1.00

01:09:58.000 Yeah, that's why they say cops. 1.00

01:09:58.000 Cops fucking hate going to domestic violence places. 1.00

01:10:00.000 Someone always has to be arrested. 0.99

01:10:02.000 If a domestic violence is called, they have to arrest someone.

01:10:05.000 Every time.

01:10:05.000 Smart.

01:10:06.000 Just to cool everybody off.

01:10:08.000 Cool someone down. 0.99

01:10:08.000 And they said the worst case, if it's two gay guys. 0.99

01:10:12.000 Because gay guys, you gotta think about it. 1.00

01:10:14.000 Gay dudes fight like dudes. 0.99

01:10:16.000 Ain't no getting choked. 0.99

01:10:17.000 It's a scrap. 1.00

01:10:19.000 Scrap for that dick. 1.00

01:10:21.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:10:21.000 I don't know if this is true. 1.00

01:10:25.000 Think about it, bro.

01:10:27.000 That's true.

01:10:27.000 And I don't know if this is true, but I heard from a cop who did a lot, a detective who said, well, you get a lot of face stabbings in the gay community.

01:10:34.000 And I was like, what do you mean? 0.98

01:10:35.000 He goes, when lovers fight, man, you can usually tell that somebody knew the other person and was physical with them, like in love with them and physically, you know, sexually physical, if their faces are, they have 15 fucking stab wounds in their face. 0.98

01:10:46.000 That's weird, like a great white shark. 1.00

01:10:47.000 That's very typical of somebody who hates, like I loved you and now I fucking hate you and I'm going to stab your face. 1.00

01:10:52.000 Try and ruin that face. 1.00

01:10:53.000 I'd try and ruin that dick if I was gay. 1.00

01:10:56.000 You might want to go back to the dick. 1.00

01:10:58.000 Guys like a little scar. 1.00

01:10:59.000 Nah, I get that booty hole. 0.99

01:11:00.000 Oh, Jesus Christ!

01:11:03.000 Hey, man! 0.99

01:11:03.000 You're going to stab the booty hole? 0.99

01:11:06.000 Come on, bro. 1.00

01:11:06.000 You stab someone in the booty hole, you could get the toxic in the blood. 1.00

01:11:09.000 They could die. 1.00

01:11:10.000 That would hurt. 0.99

01:11:11.000 Evil, son.

01:11:11.000 And, you know, you might have to wear a colostomy bag or something while being stitched up.

01:11:15.000 Stabbing anywhere sucks a dick. 1.00

01:11:17.000 I'd rather get shot sometimes. 1.00

01:11:18.000 If you had to be stabbed somewhere, where would it be? 1.00

01:11:20.000 One place you have to choose. 1.00

01:11:21.000 Don't stab me in this juicy-ass quad, son. 1.00

01:11:23.000 I don't know what the fuck. 1.00

01:11:24.000 You could die. 1.00

01:11:24.000 I don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Big fucking arteries there. 1.00

01:11:27.000 Femoral artery? 1.00

01:11:27.000 Eh, I'll take my chances. 1.00

01:11:29.000 I don't know where to get fucked. 0.99

01:11:30.000 If you think about it, the quad? 1.00

01:11:32.000 Forearm, forearm, go forearm.

01:11:34.000 What? 0.99

01:11:34.000 Stab my forearm. 0.99

01:11:35.000 Use of your hand might get fucking severed nerve. 0.99

01:11:38.000 Well then where do I go? 0.99

01:11:39.000 Kimbo Slice told me if you ever get in a knife fight, you let him cut outside here. 0.99

01:11:44.000 And Kimbo had all these fucking cuts. 0.99

01:11:49.000 Alright. 1.00

01:11:49.000 Let's talk about this for a minute. 1.00

01:11:51.000 How crazy is it that we talk about fights like, you know, we're just a bunch of dudes sitting around talking, then it becomes news stories.

01:11:58.000 Oh, I know.

01:11:59.000 The MMA media is so bizarre. 0.98

01:12:01.000 Like, we talked shit about that Ken Shamrock-Kimbo fight. 1.00

01:12:04.000 That became a giant fucking news story. 1.00

01:12:07.000 You hurt Ken Shamrock's feelings. 0.99

01:12:08.000 He was like, Joe Rogan shouldn't do that.

01:12:10.000 I didn't know that.

01:12:12.000 Well, you're a powerful dude, my man. 0.98

01:12:14.000 You know what I've learned on podcasts, too, is, you know, I joke around, I make stuff funny, but then, boom, it's a headline, like, shit, I better watch what I say a little bit. 0.98

01:12:23.000 Well, when you joke around, also, there's a difference between listening to you talk in context of a full conversation, where there's a lot of shit talking and laughing, or taking it and We're printing it. 0.90

01:12:33.000 When it's two-dimensional, it's on paper. 0.83

01:12:35.000 Well, like Fox did an article where Brian asked me on one of our podcasts, he goes, how do you think Conor's feeling right now?

01:12:41.000 I went, oh, I'm sure he's terrified.

01:12:43.000 You know, like the anxiety of fighting, you change your opponent 12 days, it's a completely different style, you're fighting a wrestler, there's some nerves there, man, but he's terrified.

01:12:53.000 Not that he's not going to win or he doesn't believe in himself.

01:12:55.000 Just naturally, everyone's terrified to fight, man.

01:12:57.000 What's the article say?

01:12:58.000 Brent Schaub thinks Connor's terrified.

01:13:00.000 Of course. 0.99

01:13:01.000 And then his fans fucking just reach out to me like they want to fucking... 1.00

01:13:05.000 Freedom! 0.99

01:13:06.000 Yeah, just fucking intense. 1.00

01:13:09.000 Like fucking Brittany Palmer. 1.00

01:13:10.000 You know, it's like brutal, man. 1.00

01:13:12.000 So then you...

01:13:14.000 It's almost like now, I don't censor myself, but...

01:13:17.000 You can see how people get careful.

01:13:19.000 You can see how people get very sort of antiseptic and very sort of sanitized.

01:13:24.000 Well, what was weird was what articles were being written while the podcast was going on.

01:13:29.000 So people were sitting in front of their computer...

01:13:32.000 With their fingers ready, and as soon as we were talking about the Cam Shamrock fight, it was in articles.

01:13:39.000 Did anybody reach out to you about that?

01:13:42.000 Ken or anybody?

01:13:43.000 No.

01:13:43.000 Look, I love Ken Shamrock.

01:13:45.000 I'm a huge Ken Shamrock fan, and that's one of the reasons why I was suspicious about him not being able to finish that rear naked choke.

01:13:51.000 Underneath the neck, underneath the neck on anybody, with a fresh Ken Shamrock, But I guess, you know, you have a good point that he's 51, and, you know, I mean, look, Kimbo's not a joke, but his ground game's always been the weakest part of his game.

01:14:05.000 There's a lot of issues with that fight that a lot of people had, but the big issue was there were fights in Ken's past that were absolutely worked.

01:14:12.000 Jack Slack did a piece on it.

01:14:14.000 Yeah, the history of it.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:15.000 So you're not breaking any news.

01:14:17.000 I'm not breaking the news.

01:14:18.000 Jack Slack was one of the best writers in MMA today. 0.95

01:14:21.000 He's fucking fantastic at breaking down fights.

01:14:24.000 He did, I think it was called The Anatomy of a Fixed Fight, and he showed fights from Pancrase. 0.98

01:14:29.000 You watched him and you go, oh, okay, that's worked.

01:14:32.000 Funaki fight, the Matt Hume fight.

01:14:34.000 How cool of an article would it be Joe Rogan, huge Ken Shamrock supporter?

01:14:38.000 They're not going to write that.

01:14:39.000 Maybe they would.

01:14:40.000 They just sit there and wait for something. 1.00

01:14:42.000 He shopped, talked shit about Reeboks. 1.00

01:14:43.000 He was a fucking pioneer. 1.00

01:14:45.000 That position that he had him in is maybe the hardest thing to get out of on the planet. 0.99

01:14:50.000 When you got his back underneath like that on top of him.

01:14:53.000 If you got good jujitsu, no.

01:14:55.000 There's a lot of guys you get their back.

01:14:57.000 John Fitch was notorious for you could get his back and choke him and he figured out a way out of it.

01:15:02.000 Remember with Eric Silva?

01:15:03.000 Eric Silva had a deep choke on him and he's like, whatever.

01:15:06.000 High level guys, but let's not get twisted.

01:15:09.000 Kimo Slice isn't winning any jiu-jitsu competition.

01:15:12.000 So I agree it's a little suspect.

01:15:13.000 It's a little suspect.

01:15:15.000 But I think that Ken is in an unfavorable position.

01:15:21.000 First of all, he's a real legend of MMA. He's one of the guys that started it all off.

01:15:25.000 If it was for Ken Shamrock and his fights...

01:15:28.000 Ken Shamrock was huge back in the day.

01:15:31.000 Before I was going to say, right?

01:15:32.000 Even in Japan, right before that.

01:15:34.000 He makes the Mount Rushmore of MMA, for sure.

01:15:37.000 Yeah, he's in there, 100%.

01:15:38.000 And also, he created the Lion's Den.

01:15:41.000 Guys like Pete Williams came out of there.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, there was a lot of great fighters that came out of there.

01:15:45.000 And that whole Tony Galindo, there was a whole group of guys that came up in that era that wound up being really big fighters, and a lot of it was under his tutelage.

01:15:56.000 The game's very different now.

01:15:57.000 Fights are very different.

01:15:59.000 You're dealing with the Jon Joneses of the world now.

01:16:02.000 You're dealing with the Yair Rodriguezes. 1.00

01:16:04.000 The game is moved.

01:16:05.000 It's a different thing.

01:16:06.000 And, you know, Ken is not financially secure, you know?

01:16:10.000 He's not a multi-multi-millionaire like he should be.

01:16:12.000 You know, if he was...

01:16:13.000 As a pioneer, yeah.

01:16:14.000 Yeah, if he was a pioneer in any other sport, if he was a pioneer as a NASCAR driver, if he was a pioneer in basketball or anything, he would be set for life.

01:16:23.000 Living in a mansion, drinking martinis by the pool, on NBC, Wild World of Sports, talking about fights that are upcoming, and treated with the respect that he deserves.

01:16:31.000 But he's in this unfavorable position where he's got to fight at 51 years old.

01:16:35.000 And one thing that I like that he said is, I've earned the right to fight for fun.

01:16:39.000 And if that's what he's doing, if that's what he wants to do, I'm 100% down with that.

01:16:42.000 I agree.

01:16:43.000 Look at a guy like Mark Coleman, too, man.

01:16:44.000 He's not doing it.

01:16:45.000 Another pioneer.

01:16:46.000 Exactly.

01:16:46.000 He's all fun.

01:16:47.000 He's got a second hip surgery coming up.

01:16:50.000 And again, massive Mark Coleman fan.

01:16:52.000 I love him as a human being, too.

01:16:54.000 I love Mark Coleman.

01:16:56.000 Legends, man.

01:16:56.000 Legends.

01:16:57.000 Oh, hey, Shob, quit doing what you're doing, making a lot of money, and go be like those guys, though. 1.00

01:17:00.000 Yeah, it's too hard, man.

01:17:02.000 Nah.

01:17:02.000 Well, you're a different guy because you're funny, and you've got a fun personality, and you translated perfectly into podcasting, and you're lucky you know Brian Gallen.

01:17:11.000 True.

01:17:11.000 And Joe Rogan.

01:17:12.000 Yeah, without those things, it's hard for these dudes.

01:17:15.000 A guy like Brian Stan, I think, has a real future in podcasting because he's brilliant.

01:17:20.000 He's very articulate.

01:17:21.000 He's very smart. 1.00

01:17:22.000 Brian Stan is a smart, sharp motherfucker. 0.99

01:17:25.000 Really sharp dude. 0.99

01:17:26.000 Sharp.

01:17:26.000 He shames me with his, I don't know, just his character.

01:17:30.000 He could be president.

01:17:31.000 I know.

01:17:31.000 I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

01:17:33.000 I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.

01:17:34.000 I would vote to him until he was like, hey, a lot of fighters I know love the Reebok deal.

01:17:38.000 When I saw that, I was like, oh, you hurt my feelings, Stan.

01:17:42.000 Oh, Stan.

01:17:43.000 I thought we were boys.

01:17:45.000 And then I'm like, whatever, I get over that and I steal Chael Sonnen.

01:17:48.000 This Reebok deal is amazing.

01:17:49.000 Sonnen said that?

01:17:50.000 Sonnen said the same thing.

01:17:52.000 Oh, no.

01:17:53.000 They got to you.

01:17:54.000 Well, they made good-looking shirts.

01:17:56.000 They got to you.

01:17:57.000 The shirts are good-looking.

01:18:01.000 Perfect amount of pause.

01:18:02.000 Perfect amount of pause.

01:18:04.000 Just very quiet.

01:18:06.000 You just hear a dog in the distance, oh, oh, barking.

01:18:09.000 Well, Gibbler Melendez.

01:18:11.000 Gibbler.

01:18:12.000 Gibbler.

01:18:12.000 They spelled his name-ler.

01:18:14.000 They spelled a bunch of people's names wrong.

01:18:17.000 How do you do that?

01:18:18.000 That's crazy.

01:18:19.000 They don't care.

01:18:20.000 It's not their world.

01:18:21.000 MMA's not their world.

01:18:22.000 It's not their world.

01:18:23.000 They didn't care.

01:18:23.000 Whoever did it wasn't paying attention.

01:18:25.000 Yeah, it's, you know, it's no big deal.

01:18:28.000 Nah, what can you do?

01:18:29.000 I think it sucks for the fighters that can't make as much money.

01:18:32.000 Because I think that it's a hard road to try to make a living as a fighter.

01:18:37.000 Hard enough as it is.

01:18:38.000 And now it just got way harder.

01:18:40.000 It just got way harder for a lot of guys.

01:18:42.000 What I hope is that there's another revenue stream that they haven't figured out.

01:18:45.000 I hope there's a shining silver lining.

01:18:48.000 The silver lining is don't have Reebok and the UFC tell your story.

01:18:53.000 And we've talked about this before on here.

01:18:55.000 If I'm a guy like Chad Mendes...

01:18:57.000 I'm having t-shirts printed, and I'm saying, this is my official shirt, champion shirt.

01:19:02.000 I get 100% of the proceeds. 0.97

01:19:03.000 Instead of buying this bullshit Reebok shirt for $95, which I have nothing to do with. 0.99

01:19:08.000 It's horrible, come on. 0.99

01:19:09.000 It's also expensive.

01:19:11.000 Yeah, go to whatever he has, chadmendez.com, and buy this shirt.

01:19:15.000 This is what supports me.

01:19:16.000 This is a shirt that I created.

01:19:17.000 Reebok, we have no creative. 0.97

01:19:19.000 What I was thinking is like you know how fighters like one of my favorite things to watch up to fights when I get really hyped up So I watch all their their videos they're putting up of training footage and all this different shit I get I'm like if you had like organized shit like if camps put together organ like some guys do you know like McGregor's done some and and some guys like will have cameras follow them around training and those can get a lot of hits and Those fucking things can get a lot of hits. 0.98

01:19:44.000 And you're getting money off that.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:19:45.000 But now think if you're wearing a shirt that you approve and you design and you're winning all those videos.

01:19:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:19:50.000 All your fans are going to jump on board.

01:19:52.000 Say you have a training video and it's all like Torque One.

01:19:56.000 You know, Uriah's company. 0.99

01:19:57.000 Who make, in my opinion, the best fucking gloves. 0.99

01:19:59.000 Between them and Hayabusa. 1.00

01:20:02.000 Hayabusa has the best fucking tie pads. 1.00

01:20:05.000 Their fucking tie pads are so good. 1.00

01:20:07.000 My trainer, Justin, his arms are so fucked up. 1.00

01:20:10.000 I would make his arms go numb. 0.99

01:20:11.000 And it's his elbows, he would get these spikes up his elbows and just whack! 0.99

01:20:15.000 Because he's holding regular tie pads and fucked his forearms up. 0.94

01:20:19.000 But these Hayabusa ones, dude? 0.99

01:20:21.000 Full blast.

01:20:22.000 Full roundhouse kicks to him. 0.93

01:20:23.000 He could take them.

01:20:24.000 Because they're super thick. 0.99

01:20:25.000 They're super thick and they're all this high-tech foam shit and they absorb the shot. 0.99

01:20:29.000 I mean, you probably wouldn't want to hold pads for Pedro Hizzo, but he could take my kicks. 0.98

01:20:34.000 So have Hayabusa.

01:20:35.000 Pay Chad Mendes to have those in his video.

01:20:37.000 Exactly, but that's what I'm saying.

01:20:38.000 Maybe there's a revenue stream that they haven't tapped into.

01:20:41.000 Maybe there's something like that where fighters can figure out a way. 1.00

01:20:45.000 Make Your Own Shit! 1.00

01:20:45.000 Make Your Own Shit is good, too. 1.00

01:20:46.000 It's so easy. 1.00

01:20:46.000 I like that idea, though. 1.00

01:20:47.000 But you have a major hit podcast.

01:20:50.000 You guys, the Fighter and the Kid, I told you, when I did the taping of Brian's stand-up special, and I came to that show, and I was like, it was a sea of Fighter and the Kid shirts.

01:21:00.000 It's crazy.

01:21:00.000 Well, how about we were in San Francisco, and I said, any Fighter and Kid fans sold out every show.

01:21:05.000 I went, oh my god, this is the boiling point.

01:21:07.000 Now it's starting to happen. 0.99

01:21:08.000 I get that, and you can say, well, you have a podcast to sell shirts, but a guy like Conor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, you can have your own shit instead of having Reebok. 0.99

01:21:16.000 Yes, yes. 0.99

01:21:17.000 I agree.

01:21:18.000 It just doesn't make sense to me.

01:21:19.000 I was on set of UFC Now or UFC Night, and I was talking to a guy, I'm not going to say his name, and I go, bro, why would you have your fans pay $95 for this Reebok shirt?

01:21:27.000 Do you like it?

01:21:27.000 He goes, no.

01:21:28.000 I said, and you retweeted it and Instagrammed it.

01:21:30.000 That's weird to me.

01:21:31.000 Just have someone...

01:21:33.000 If your manager's not telling you this, fire him.

01:21:35.000 They're trying to play ball.

01:21:36.000 They're trying to be a good guy.

01:21:38.000 They're trying to be a company person.

01:21:39.000 It's also the only option.

01:21:40.000 They think they only have one option.

01:21:41.000 It's not, though.

01:21:42.000 Because if you want to play ball, you know what happens?

01:21:44.000 At the end of the ball game, you're left with no money. 1.00

01:21:47.000 Do your own revenue shit, man. 0.99

01:21:48.000 They think that if they play ball along the way, they'll get more bonuses, they'll be favored, they'll get better deals. 1.00

01:21:56.000 And the UFC does take care of people they like and people that work with them.

01:21:59.000 They do give out bonuses.

01:22:01.000 There's a good deal to that.

01:22:02.000 Why depend on that?

01:22:04.000 Why depend on that?

01:22:04.000 We can create your own signature shirt, man.

01:22:07.000 Look at you, you smart motherfucker. 1.00

01:22:08.000 Businessman. 1.00

01:22:08.000 I told him we should start teaching seminars to fighters about how to maximize, optimize their ability. 1.00

01:22:14.000 But again, what you have that they don't is you're funny.

01:22:18.000 If a guy's not funny, it's going to be real hard to push a podcast.

01:22:22.000 Unless you're a real sharp guy like Stan.

01:22:24.000 Forget the podcast.

01:22:25.000 What you just said was interesting.

01:22:26.000 If you had cameras follow you around, and they're capturing all the ins and outs of your training, and be honest.

01:22:31.000 Show where you feel shitty, or you feel great, and all the relationships you're trying to deal with.

01:22:36.000 And at the same time, you've got product placement, which is just, I use Hayabusa, or I use this kind of stuff.

01:22:42.000 You can make money that way.

01:22:43.000 You can make money, but it's a lot more...

01:22:45.000 You'd have to be top tier, though.

01:22:46.000 But it's also a lot of production, extra stuff to think about. 0.99

01:22:49.000 It used to be, you put that fucking... 0.98

01:22:50.000 What is it? 0.99

01:22:51.000 Fastener?

01:22:52.000 What's it called?

01:22:53.000 Dynamic fastener?

01:22:53.000 Yeah, dynamic fastener, whatever.

01:22:54.000 On your dick. 1.00

01:22:54.000 You put that across your dick, and you're making 20 grand. 1.00

01:22:57.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

01:22:57.000 It's like, they had the shirts on. 1.00

01:22:59.000 You'd wear...

01:23:01.000 Now we gotta do a different route.

01:23:02.000 Now you gotta do a different route, man.

01:23:03.000 But I don't like that they have to do a different route.

01:23:05.000 And you don't like it either.

01:23:06.000 I hate it.

01:23:07.000 That's what drives me nuts.

01:23:08.000 And so, like, the UFC XO, this is the first XO I've ever missed.

01:23:11.000 I've been at everyone.

01:23:11.000 I love them, man.

01:23:12.000 And the fans are like, oh, this is bullshit. 0.98

01:23:14.000 Because I said, I don't work for free. 0.98

01:23:15.000 I'm not doing a Fighting the Kid podcast live for free.

01:23:18.000 I'm not doing that.

01:23:18.000 They wanted you to do it for free?

01:23:20.000 Yeah.

01:23:20.000 I'm not doing a signing for free.

01:23:22.000 I'm just not gonna do it, man.

01:23:23.000 But to do a podcast for free, you guys would still put ads on those podcasts, right?

01:23:26.000 Not a live one.

01:23:27.000 There's no ads at a live podcast at the UFC Expo.

01:23:29.000 Well, I don't understand.

01:23:31.000 When you do your ads, do you read them live on the air?

01:23:35.000 Typically.

01:23:36.000 Okay.

01:23:36.000 I used to do it like that.

01:23:37.000 But then I got a man named Jamie Vernon in my life.

01:23:40.000 No, but if you do a live podcast, I'm not doing, you know what I'm saying?

01:23:43.000 It's a different scenario.

01:23:45.000 Right, but you put that up on iTunes and you put ads on it, no?

01:23:48.000 No, it would just be for that crowd.

01:23:51.000 You wouldn't record it?

01:23:52.000 No, we didn't last time.

01:23:54.000 What?

01:23:54.000 Yeah.

01:23:55.000 Why would you not record it and put it out?

01:23:57.000 I don't think we had the capabilities.

01:23:59.000 We didn't have the capabilities.

01:24:00.000 Again, you need a man like young Jamie in your life.

01:24:04.000 It was also a different time. 0.99

01:24:06.000 But listen, if there's a soundboard and the soundboard is broadcasting out to those people, it's got a fucking auxiliary plug. 0.99

01:24:10.000 Yeah. 0.95

01:24:11.000 You plug it in, you put an mp3 recorder.

01:24:13.000 Am I right?

01:24:13.000 Yeah.

01:24:14.000 That's it.

01:24:14.000 Yeah.

01:24:15.000 Live from Vegas.

01:24:16.000 And then you make money off the ads from that podcast.

01:24:18.000 It's not free.

01:24:19.000 I would do a podcast.

01:24:20.000 They asked me to do a podcast from the Fan Expo.

01:24:22.000 I'd have done it.

01:24:23.000 But they probably wouldn't want me to.

01:24:25.000 We've done it before.

01:24:27.000 I like doing them.

01:24:28.000 The point is, we don't have to do that.

01:24:33.000 And we offer, listen, name an athlete that's been in the UFC who's been more open. 0.98

01:24:37.000 I give you free shit four, six hours a week doing podcasts. 0.92

01:24:40.000 There's never been an athlete in the UFC more open than I have talking to fans. 0.98

01:24:43.000 So missing the Fan Expos, it's not the end of the world.

01:24:46.000 Right.

01:24:46.000 Well, you're already getting your own message out there on a regular basis.

01:24:51.000 But your message is also independent.

01:24:53.000 You're not a company man.

01:24:54.000 You're your own.

01:24:55.000 You're a company man if the company is great, and you're a huge supporter of the UFC. Huge supporter.

01:25:00.000 I love the UFC. But you're honest.

01:25:02.000 You know?

01:25:02.000 Like, that's...

01:25:03.000 Fucking... 0.99

01:25:03.000 It's hard to... 0.99

01:25:04.000 That's hard to...

01:25:05.000 That's important.

01:25:06.000 It's important.

01:25:07.000 It's hard to find. 0.99

01:25:08.000 It's hard to find a guy with balls like that. 0.85

01:25:09.000 But you also can do it because you make more money from podcasting than you do from fighting. 0.91

01:25:14.000 Correct.

01:25:14.000 I mean, that's just...

01:25:16.000 It's the way of the world, man.

01:25:17.000 It's the way of the world.

01:25:19.000 This sport is still growing.

01:25:23.000 There's still some stuff to be worked out.

01:25:25.000 And I don't have the answers.

01:25:27.000 None of us do.

01:25:29.000 Dana's not at fault. 0.99

01:25:30.000 I might run it the same fucking way. 0.98

01:25:32.000 I'm not saying I would do anything different. 0.99

01:25:33.000 I don't know what I'd do different.

01:25:34.000 Hard job, you guys.

01:25:35.000 I'll tell you right now, I definitely wouldn't do it this way.

01:25:39.000 With regards to cutting the sponsors, I would avoid anything that costs the fighters money.

01:25:43.000 But I think they think that long term, it's going to make the fighters money.

01:25:46.000 And maybe they're right.

01:25:47.000 But for a guy like me, or a guy like Mitrione, or a guy like Ben Rothwell, these guys currently on it, it's not helping us.

01:25:55.000 Those guys are going to be long gone before they see benefits.

01:25:57.000 Unless it makes a benefit within the next two or three years, I agree with you.

01:26:01.000 Because a guy like Ben Rothwell, who's on a tear right now, Rothwell in another two, three years, who knows?

01:26:08.000 He's not young.

01:26:09.000 A guy like DC, he's not young.

01:26:11.000 Mitrione, not young.

01:26:12.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:26:14.000 Ronda's knees?

01:26:15.000 She's not fighting another five years. 1.00

01:26:17.000 Her knees are fucked up? 0.99

01:26:18.000 From judo, her knees aren't the best. 1.00

01:26:21.000 She can't do road work and stuff. 0.99

01:26:23.000 She can't run? 1.00

01:26:24.000 She doesn't want to run, yeah. 0.93

01:26:27.000 Well, it's also like you know that without the human growth hormone, without any sort of...

01:26:32.000 I mean, when they're testing for everything, the way they're testing now, we're going to see a different playing field. 0.59

01:26:36.000 Damn right.

01:26:37.000 And you're going to see younger fighters. 0.90

01:26:38.000 Yep.

01:26:39.000 Younger fighters, and you're going to see them retire earlier.

01:26:40.000 You're not going to see shorter careers, too.

01:26:42.000 You're not going to see 38-year-old guys fighting.

01:26:43.000 And we're not making the same money where they get.

01:26:44.000 Costa Filibou just retired.

01:26:46.000 Really?

01:26:46.000 Yeah.

01:26:46.000 Kosta's a good fighter, man.

01:26:48.000 Good fighter.

01:26:48.000 I mean, when he came into the UFC, he was like top 10 right away at 185. Fucking vicious power.

01:26:53.000 Jesus, his power. 1.00

01:26:54.000 He's so muscular, like weird.

01:26:56.000 Like Tim Kennedy kind of muscles.

01:26:58.000 Well, he was great under Ray Longo.

01:26:59.000 When he left Ray Longo, you know, I think there was sort of a bit of a conflict because he was 185. Chris Weidman was the champ.

01:27:05.000 You know, how can he train with the champ?

01:27:07.000 Yeah.

01:27:07.000 And who knows what kind of training sessions they had, too.

01:27:09.000 I mean, what led him to lead.

01:27:11.000 Who knows, man.

01:27:11.000 To leave, rather.

01:27:13.000 What's going on with Tim Kennedy?

01:27:14.000 Tim Kennedy, he was talking about...

01:27:16.000 He's another guy who's not like, do what?

01:27:19.000 Tell me why.

01:27:20.000 Hell no. 0.99

01:27:21.000 Tim Kennedy doesn't have to do a goddamn thing. 1.00

01:27:23.000 Tim Kennedy is not anybody's bitch. 1.00

01:27:25.000 Period. 0.99

01:27:26.000 No, he's not.

01:27:26.000 He should be running things.

01:27:28.000 If Tim Kennedy went for president right now, I'd vote for him.

01:27:31.000 I'd vote for him.

01:27:31.000 He's the best!

01:27:32.000 The reason why I'd vote for Tim over Brian is because there's no investment with the UFC. He's like, do what?

01:27:43.000 No, man.

01:27:44.000 I don't work for you guys.

01:27:45.000 I don't have a TV show.

01:27:47.000 I'm not doing announcing.

01:27:48.000 Did you see what he said when the Reebok deal came out?

01:27:51.000 Yes, and that's why you love him.

01:27:53.000 What'd he say?

01:27:53.000 Oh, he put out some tweet.

01:27:56.000 Are you saying that you're going to give me $2,500 to be my exclusive sponsor?

01:28:04.000 Thank you very much for your generous offer, but I'll pass.

01:28:07.000 At Scott Coker, what's up?

01:28:09.000 How does that not violate your current contract with the UFC? Have you heard anyone talk about that?

01:28:15.000 I don't know.

01:28:15.000 I mean, obviously it doesn't if they're doing it.

01:28:18.000 Wow. 0.99

01:28:18.000 I mean, they're not stupid. 0.99

01:28:20.000 They have the best lawyers in the world. 0.84

01:28:22.000 There's a reason why they can do certain stuff.

01:28:24.000 There's always wiggle room.

01:28:25.000 I'm surprised.

01:28:26.000 You know what?

01:28:27.000 I don't think that it's a bad thing to get a big company involved and to legitimize the sport.

01:28:35.000 If I'm Reebok, I'm like, hell yeah. 0.97

01:28:37.000 If I'm Reebok, I'm like, damn, we got all these guys. 0.92

01:28:39.000 We get Tim Kennedy for $2,500? 0.98

01:28:41.000 It's the best deal in the world.

01:28:43.000 We get Big Brown for $10,000?

01:28:45.000 Oh, hell yeah, man.

01:28:46.000 This is crazy.

01:28:47.000 When you look at what those guys were making before that, though, it's just like, man, to make the fighters take the hit like that.

01:28:54.000 Well, how many fighters, though, were able to generate sponsorship money as far as, like, was it the top five, top ten?

01:29:00.000 No, the guys who have great personalities, like Donald, Cowboy.

01:29:03.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:29:03.000 Who the fuck doesn't want to sponsor Cowboy? 0.99

01:29:06.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99

01:29:07.000 You know?

01:29:08.000 Like, I would buy a certain beer if I knew that Donald Cerrone drank it after he wins by knockout. 0.96

01:29:14.000 So would If Donald Cerrone wins by knockout, I'll fucking go, I'll drink a case of Budweiser that night. 0.90

01:29:18.000 Just to represent. 0.98

01:29:19.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

01:29:20.000 I got you, Donald. 1.00

01:29:22.000 Yeah, you better come to my fucking stand-up, Donald, this weekend. 0.99

01:29:24.000 There's a few guys like that that you'll, like, if, like... 0.99

01:29:28.000 Cain Velasquez wins.

01:29:30.000 You might drink Tecate if that was his sponsor.

01:29:32.000 Just like, for Cain!

01:29:33.000 What would someone like Donald Cerrone be making now with Reebok?

01:29:38.000 Let's say he was making $100,000.

01:29:39.000 It's like 15 fights or 16 fights.

01:29:41.000 I don't know.

01:29:42.000 I don't like it.

01:29:42.000 Me neither.

01:29:43.000 I don't want to get in trouble.

01:29:46.000 Yeah, I don't like talking about it.

01:29:47.000 I just wish guys made more money.

01:29:50.000 I wish there was more money for them to make.

01:29:51.000 I wish there was more opportunities for them to figure out a way to retire safely and comfortably.

01:29:56.000 Isn't that the old story with fighters and hasn't that always been the case?

01:29:59.000 Look at boxers.

01:30:00.000 That's also the thing with boxers.

01:30:01.000 Everybody wants to compare to Floyd Mayweather.

01:30:03.000 You watch Floyd Mayweather fight, pay attention to how much those guys make the first fight of the night.

01:30:07.000 Pay attention to how much those guys make on the undercard.

01:30:09.000 Very little.

01:30:10.000 Very little.

01:30:11.000 Boxing, in a way, is probably worse than the UFC. It is worse than the UFC. The only thing is, is Floyd Mayweather owns a piece of the promotion.

01:30:18.000 That's 1%.

01:30:18.000 That's the.01% for the most part.

01:30:20.000 He's the fucking Mac Daddy of the Mac Daddies. 1.00

01:30:23.000 He's the man. 1.00

01:30:23.000 Yes. 1.00

01:30:24.000 He beat the game.

01:30:25.000 He beat the game.

01:30:25.000 There's a lot of top guys that'll make a million dollars a fight.

01:30:29.000 There's a bunch of guys that do real well.

01:30:32.000 The only thing I don't like is if you do say, man, I don't like me.

01:30:36.000 I think the Reebok kids are terrible.

01:30:38.000 Can I help them out 100%?

01:30:40.000 I think they're awful.

01:30:41.000 There should be no repercussions for saying that.

01:30:43.000 There should be no backlash for saying that.

01:30:45.000 Who cares?

01:30:46.000 Here's the deal.

01:30:47.000 If it's undeniable that it's good, your opinion doesn't mean anything. 0.99

01:30:51.000 But if you say they look like shit and it resonates, then they got a problem with their design. 0.99

01:30:57.000 Like, look. 1.00

01:30:58.000 You might not like this fuckin' Elvis in Japan shirt. 1.00

01:31:01.000 I'm diggin' that shit. 1.00

01:31:01.000 That shit's dope as fuck. 1.00

01:31:03.000 Hell yeah. 1.00

01:31:03.000 You could tell me- Some people might like it. 1.00

01:31:05.000 But just cause I don't like it, cool man. 0.99

01:31:07.000 You could tell me all day that this shirt sucks. 0.88

01:31:09.000 Some people are gonna say it's cool, it doesn't matter, right? 0.99

01:31:11.000 No matter what you say. 0.99

01:31:12.000 You could tell me all day that it sucks. 0.99

01:31:13.000 I don't care. 0.99

01:31:14.000 Right. 1.00

01:31:14.000 You could tell me all day that BJ Penn jacket is stupid. 1.00

01:31:17.000 I don't care. 1.00

01:31:17.000 You could say it all day. 1.00

01:31:18.000 I don't care.

01:31:19.000 Doesn't mean anything to me.

01:31:20.000 You're definitely wrong in my mind.

01:31:23.000 For what I like, you're wrong.

01:31:25.000 Which is great.

01:31:25.000 That's your opinion.

01:31:26.000 Right.

01:31:26.000 It's like your car.

01:31:27.000 Don't bully me into fucking... 1.00

01:31:28.000 Your car. 1.00

01:31:29.000 Someone could say, yeah, that Porsche looks like shit. 1.00

01:31:31.000 You'd be like, oh, good luck with that. 1.00

01:31:32.000 Yeah, I'm gonna lie.

01:31:33.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

01:31:35.000 This is a 991, bitch. 1.00

01:31:36.000 This is a fucking modern Porsche. 1.00

01:31:38.000 Yeah, go. 0.99

01:31:39.000 Good luck.

01:31:39.000 Good luck with all that.

01:31:40.000 But when you say the Reebok kit sucks, and you go...

01:31:46.000 You did say something interesting about Reebok, like shoes. 0.76

01:31:48.000 They've had a tough time marketing their shoes.

01:31:50.000 I don't know a lot of people that wear the shoes.

01:31:52.000 Crossfitters.

01:31:52.000 They're big in Crossfit.

01:31:53.000 They're huge.

01:31:54.000 They're big in Crossfit.

01:31:55.000 They sponsor a lot of Crossfit athletes.

01:31:59.000 I'm huge in Europe.

01:32:01.000 I guarantee most Crossfitters who go to Crossfit gyms don't wear Reeboks.

01:32:05.000 They wear their shoes. 1.00

01:32:06.000 Europe pussy feels just like American pussy. 1.00

01:32:08.000 It's basically the same build. 1.00

01:32:11.000 It's not like Mexican Coca-Cola.

01:32:13.000 It's not.

01:32:18.000 I mean, what could you do, man?

01:32:20.000 They're Reeboks.

01:32:20.000 Yeah, man.

01:32:21.000 It is what it is.

01:32:22.000 Listen, there's nothing we can do.

01:32:25.000 Yeah, look, if someone gave me Reebok sneakers and said these are the only sneakers you could wear for the rest of your life, it wouldn't hurt me. 0.94

01:32:31.000 No, I mean, I'd burn them, throw them in the trash.

01:32:32.000 Yeah, but it's whatever. 0.98

01:32:33.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:32:34.000 I like Reeboks.

01:32:36.000 I'm just kidding, bro.

01:32:37.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, man.

01:32:39.000 I think that it's good that a big sponsor has gotten involved with the UFC. I think it's great, yeah.

01:32:44.000 If a bunch of big sponsors get involved and then that 10,000 becomes 100,000.

01:32:49.000 That'd be sweet, man.

01:32:50.000 And that's the goal, right?

01:32:51.000 Now we're talking.

01:32:51.000 That's the goal.

01:32:52.000 I hope so.

01:32:53.000 I hope that's the goal.

01:32:54.000 But I think with the Reebok thing, it's an exclusive apparel contract because a lot of, like, fight chicks, they had to say that they weren't going to be at the expo, and a lot of other apparel companies had to say they weren't going to be at the expo.

01:33:06.000 Why would you?

01:33:06.000 No, you can't be.

01:33:07.000 You can't be.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:33:08.000 You can't, because Reebok is the exclusive apparel contract company.

01:33:12.000 I used to make good money off the Expos, too.

01:33:15.000 There's a lot of those companies there.

01:33:16.000 It'd be a great weekend for me.

01:33:18.000 Yeah, it's not cool.

01:33:19.000 Great weekend.

01:33:20.000 I used to do six, seven appearances.

01:33:22.000 Good money, man. 1.00

01:33:23.000 Damn. 0.99

01:33:24.000 It's the first one I've ever missed. 0.99

01:33:26.000 Listen, when you make these big decisions, you're not worried about guys like Brendan Schaub.

01:33:31.000 You're not worried about these other guys.

01:33:32.000 You're worried about the best thing for the company.

01:33:34.000 And I'm not saying that to Dana White it might be a great decision.

01:33:37.000 I don't know the ins and outs.

01:33:38.000 And they take people like Rhonda and Connor and they give them exclusive deals where they get big money. 0.57

01:33:42.000 So Ronnie gets big money.

01:33:44.000 Jon Jones had big money before his car accident.

01:33:46.000 Connor.

01:33:46.000 Connor has big money.

01:33:47.000 Yair Rodriguez got signed.

01:33:49.000 Rory McDonald just got signed.

01:33:50.000 Did he?

01:33:51.000 Yep.

01:33:51.000 Banking on Rory.

01:33:52.000 Does Reebok still have to keep sponsoring Jon Jones?

01:33:56.000 No, no, no, no.

01:33:57.000 They canceled that immediately.

01:33:59.000 Really?

01:33:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:00.000 Immediately.

01:34:00.000 Well, now, because he's suspended indefinitely.

01:34:02.000 Well, no, no.

01:34:03.000 They canceled it before he was suspended.

01:34:04.000 No, no, no.

01:34:05.000 But let's say he fought next month, he's wearing Reebok.

01:34:08.000 So you're still sponsoring Jon Jones.

01:34:10.000 Yes, but he's not exclusive.

01:34:11.000 He doesn't have the exclusive deal that he had before where they were sponsoring him outside of his fight.

01:34:15.000 True, but you're fighting with Reebok on, so technically you're sponsoring.

01:34:17.000 Like if Travis Brown, let's say, whatever, he beats up his wife, and he fights next month, He's still rocking Reebok.

01:34:26.000 Whether they like it or not, you're still sponsoring that.

01:34:29.000 That's a very weird place for Reebok to be, because now they have to kind of get involved in whether or not this guy fights, because that's very damaging. 0.97

01:34:36.000 That's a big risk for them, where you go, you fucked up, the UFC forgives you. 0.50

01:34:41.000 Yeah, but there's more pros than cons. 0.98

01:34:42.000 I don't know.

01:34:43.000 That's a good point, though.

01:34:44.000 I don't know, man.

01:34:45.000 Because now they're kind of...

01:34:46.000 They can't help but get involved in whether or not this guy fights in Reebok and wears their...

01:34:50.000 If you've been...

01:34:51.000 Let's just say...

01:34:52.000 That's the same as the NFL. Before the trial comes out...

01:34:54.000 Ray Rice plays.

01:34:55.000 You have a Reebok or Nike jersey on.

01:34:57.000 I'm wearing Nike.

01:34:58.000 They can't control that.

01:34:59.000 If you're going to sponsor everyone, you have to sponsor everyone.

01:35:01.000 You're going to sponsor some bad apples, but most are good.

01:35:04.000 Right.

01:35:04.000 I don't know.

01:35:05.000 That's everything.

01:35:06.000 That's leagues, man.

01:35:07.000 It's true.

01:35:08.000 It's one of those things where you've got a big company and they have their say, and then they have to protect their name.

01:35:15.000 Do you think that a compromise would be that one guy would wear plain shorts?

01:35:19.000 Reebok would say, you know what, we just can't.

01:35:21.000 Yes.

01:35:22.000 You might want to let it in.

01:35:23.000 It's a uniform.

01:35:24.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they said that.

01:35:26.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they said, hey, in this case, you know, but...

01:35:29.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they gave him the exact same shorts but didn't put a logo on it.

01:35:33.000 If they had a compromise and made him wear a Reebok short but didn't have the logo on it, he couldn't wear anything else.

01:35:37.000 They might. 0.96

01:35:38.000 But it would have to be an extreme example where there's a debate in a fucking closed room and Dana White's head's turning red and the fucking Reebok guy's yelling too and they go, alright, here's the deal. 0.99

01:35:47.000 Here's the deal. 0.99

01:35:48.000 Here's the compromise.

01:35:49.000 You know, it would have to be one of those deals.

01:35:50.000 No, it's just a, it'll be Reebok and no K on the end. 0.99

01:35:53.000 Dude, first of all, let's break down this fucking card because this card is insane. 0.98

01:35:58.000 This is, I think, maybe... 0.99

01:36:00.000 Don't say better than UC100. I'm going to pass out.

01:36:03.000 Maybe one of the best cards of all time.

01:36:05.000 Really?

01:36:06.000 Okay, listen to what we got here.

01:36:07.000 Ah, I disagree.

01:36:07.000 We got...

01:36:08.000 Shut the fuck up, Big Brown. 1.00

01:36:09.000 Shut the fuck up! 1.00

01:36:10.000 Dude, how could you disagree? 1.00

01:36:12.000 Watch, I'm gonna piss off Brennan. 0.98

01:36:13.000 Mendes versus McGregor, I fucking love it, okay? 0.98

01:36:17.000 Robbie Lawler versus Roy McDonald, I fucking love it. 0.96

01:36:20.000 Now, let's talk a little bit about that. 0.98

01:36:22.000 Let's keep going.

01:36:23.000 No, but hold on a second.

01:36:24.000 Here's a fight people are sleeping on.

01:36:25.000 Dennis Bermudez versus Jeremy Stevens. 0.99

01:36:28.000 That's a good fucking fight, man. 0.99

01:36:31.000 That's a very good fight. 1.00

01:36:32.000 Here's another fight people are sleeping on.

01:36:35.000 Gunnar Nelson versus Brendan Thatch.

01:36:37.000 Brandon Thatch.

01:36:39.000 Thank you very much.

01:36:41.000 Not you.

01:36:41.000 Different.

01:36:42.000 That's a good fucking fight, man. 1.00

01:36:45.000 That's a fucking good fight. 1.00

01:36:48.000 That's a very good fight. 0.99

01:36:49.000 And Gunnar Nelson, by the way, Gunnar Nelson is a wicked fucking ground fighter. 0.99

01:36:55.000 Really? 0.99

01:36:56.000 Choked out Jeff Monson.

01:36:57.000 Beat Jeff Monson, bro.

01:36:59.000 Might not have choked him out.

01:37:00.000 Did he beat him?

01:37:01.000 I think he just beat him.

01:37:02.000 He didn't choke him out.

01:37:03.000 Somebody choked him out recently.

01:37:05.000 He's from Iceland.

01:37:08.000 They're all wearing Reebok now.

01:37:09.000 Wow, look at that. 0.99

01:37:10.000 If we could, I mean, to say this is one of the best cards of all time, you bring up UFC 100, it will knock your dick in the dirt. 1.00

01:37:16.000 Matt Brown versus Tim Means, motherfucker! 1.00

01:37:19.000 No one's even talking about that shit! 1.00

01:37:21.000 That's a good fucking fight! 1.00

01:37:23.000 It's a good fight! 1.00

01:37:23.000 It's not a blockbuster! 1.00

01:37:25.000 For me, that's a great fight, man.

01:37:26.000 Match-up-wise, it's a great fight.

01:37:28.000 Okay, what fight in UFC 100 is bigger than this?

01:37:31.000 What fight in UFC 100 is bigger than this?

01:37:34.000 Mayor Lesnar?

01:37:35.000 Not to me.

01:37:37.000 Not to me. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Are you fucking shitting me? 0.99

01:37:40.000 No, it's bigger on paper as far as, like, the appeal, but as far as, like, stylistically... 1.00

01:37:43.000 GSP? Thiago Alves?

01:37:45.000 Dan Henderson?

01:37:46.000 Yes.

01:37:47.000 We're talking superstars, sir!

01:37:50.000 Here's a question.

01:37:50.000 Who's the biggest superstar out there?

01:37:52.000 Connor, he has five fights.

01:37:53.000 These are two monsters.

01:37:55.000 No, no, style-wise, these are great fights. 0.99

01:37:57.000 That's all I give a fuck about. 0.98

01:37:58.000 I'm talking about superstars, Joe Rogan. 0.99

01:38:00.000 I'm talking about ratings. 1.00

01:38:01.000 You're talking about entertainment, motherfucker. 1.00

01:38:03.000 I'm not a star-fucker, Brendan Schaub! 1.00

01:38:04.000 Bro, go to UFC 100! 0.98

01:38:05.000 You heard me!

01:38:05.000 Go to UFC 100!

01:38:07.000 Guys! 1.00

01:38:08.000 That shit will knock your dick in the dirt. 1.00

01:38:09.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:38:09.000 Don't go to UFC 100. Back in the day, there were Super Bowl cards. 1.00

01:38:13.000 He just turned it off.

01:38:14.000 I don't like it.

01:38:15.000 No, he did.

01:38:16.000 I don't have control over it, son.

01:38:17.000 Wait, why is John Howard, who was going to fight Brandon Thatch, why is he now fighting somebody else in the prelims, in the undercard?

01:38:23.000 Excuse me?

01:38:23.000 John Howard was supposed to fight Brandon Thatch.

01:38:26.000 Hey, hey! 0.96

01:38:26.000 UFC 100! 0.96

01:38:27.000 Oh, because there were some injuries.

01:38:28.000 UFC 100!

01:38:29.000 On the undercard is John Jones!

01:38:31.000 Mark Coleman!

01:38:32.000 What?!

01:38:34.000 Jim Miller!

01:38:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:37.000 I like this card better.

01:38:38.000 And look at that main card.

01:38:40.000 John Jones versus Jake O'Brien?

01:38:41.000 Come on, that's a slaughter. 0.61

01:38:43.000 Still, it's John Jones on an undercard.

01:38:45.000 It was John Jones before he was a champion. 1.00

01:38:47.000 A fucking monster. 1.00

01:38:48.000 He was a bad motherfucker. 1.00

01:38:49.000 Loving in the dark. 1.00

01:38:50.000 Matt Brown versus Tim Means is a better fight to me than John Jones versus Jake O'Brien.

01:38:54.000 John Jones versus Jake O'Brien is an opportunity to watch John Jones choke out Jake O'Brien.

01:38:58.000 No disrespect to Jake O'Brien. 1.00

01:39:00.000 And that shit was dope. 1.00

01:39:00.000 That shit was so dope. 1.00

01:39:02.000 Tim Means vs. 1.00

01:39:03.000 Matt Brown is going to be a fucking crazy war. 0.99

01:39:06.000 Look at that! 1.00

01:39:06.000 Look at that main card! 1.00

01:39:08.000 It's a good fight.

01:39:08.000 Oh my God!

01:39:10.000 Henderson vs.

01:39:11.000 Bisping is an all-time classic.

01:39:12.000 I remember when the George St. Pierre...

01:39:13.000 Horrible knockout.

01:39:14.000 They can't even show that finishing out.

01:39:16.000 No.

01:39:16.000 Remember when he came down?

01:39:17.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:18.000 They're like, edit that shit. 1.00

01:39:19.000 He launched himself. 1.00

01:39:20.000 Edit that shit. 1.00

01:39:21.000 He killed him. 1.00

01:39:21.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:39:22.000 They took that off.

01:39:23.000 Launched him.

01:39:23.000 I want Stan Hendo's signature logo.

01:39:25.000 Yeah.

01:39:26.000 Him flying through the air.

01:39:27.000 Imagine being Bisping and seeing that logo everywhere and knowing what that means.

01:39:30.000 I remember George St. Pierre when he goes, I pulled my groin. 0.79

01:39:33.000 And Greg Jackson goes, then hit him with your groin.

01:39:36.000 That was the weirdest thing to say.

01:39:37.000 I was like, well, there it is.

01:39:38.000 It's not very helpful.

01:39:39.000 When there weren't so many cards, like...

01:39:42.000 I think we're used to a little bit of watered-down cards. 1.00

01:39:44.000 We're like, damn, this shit is blockbuster, son. 1.00

01:39:46.000 It's good. 1.00

01:39:47.000 If you go back to back in the day, there were some fucking Super Bowl cards, man. 0.98

01:39:52.000 Yeah, there's some big names there. 0.97

01:39:54.000 There's definitely big names there.

01:39:56.000 Mark Coleman versus Stefan Bonner, to me, is not as interesting as Gunnar Nelson versus Brandon Thatcher.

01:40:00.000 I agree 100%.

01:40:01.000 That's a bigger fight to me.

01:40:02.000 That's a better fight.

01:40:03.000 Yeah.

01:40:03.000 Bigger?

01:40:04.000 I don't know.

01:40:04.000 Better?

01:40:04.000 Yes.

01:40:05.000 Bigger doesn't mean anything to me. 0.99

01:40:06.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.98

01:40:07.000 I'm there for all of them. 0.99

01:40:08.000 So for me, I'm there.

01:40:09.000 You're a fight aficionado. 1.00

01:40:10.000 You're a fucking... 1.00

01:40:10.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

01:40:11.000 No, I know that my tastes are...

01:40:13.000 Look, I like the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight.

01:40:16.000 I love that fight.

01:40:16.000 Me too.

01:40:17.000 I love that fight.

01:40:17.000 Me too.

01:40:18.000 But you know boxing. 0.99

01:40:19.000 You understand how difficult it is to do what Mayweather did to a guy like fucking Pacquiao. 1.00

01:40:23.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

01:40:24.000 This fight is gonna be chaos. 1.00

01:40:26.000 Because both these guys are animals.

01:40:29.000 Tim Means, he's one of the most underrated guys in the UFC right now. 1.00

01:40:33.000 Tim Means is a fucking savage. 0.98

01:40:35.000 He is a very skillful fighter. 1.00

01:40:38.000 Phenomenal matchup.

01:40:39.000 Very very good matchup.

01:40:40.000 Are they similar fighters?

01:40:41.000 Like similar styles?

01:40:43.000 Very very very very similar.

01:40:46.000 Like mirror images of each other.

01:40:47.000 Caution gets thrown out the window.

01:40:49.000 Both guys are warriors. 1.00

01:40:51.000 Matt Brown is a fucking demon. 1.00

01:40:53.000 He's a demon, dude. 1.00

01:40:54.000 He really is, Matt. 0.99

01:40:55.000 He steals souls, bro.

01:40:57.000 Straight up.

01:40:57.000 He breaks guys.

01:40:58.000 He really does.

01:40:59.000 I've never seen a guy break guys the way Matt Brown does.

01:41:02.000 He's a totally different animal.

01:41:03.000 Yep.

01:41:04.000 You know, he doesn't always win, but, you know, the Hendricks fight exposed a hole in his game, man.

01:41:08.000 Big time.

01:41:08.000 A guy like Hendricks could just take him down, grind him out.

01:41:11.000 Tim Means ain't gonna do that, though.

01:41:13.000 Tim Means is He's like, yeah, let's do this.

01:41:14.000 Let's meet in the middle of the octagon and see what happens.

01:41:17.000 It's going to be a wild fight, man. 0.95

01:41:18.000 Ridiculous fight.

01:41:18.000 And that's a perfect fight for Fox Sports 1 prelims, to get people set up to watch the main event on pay-per-view, because you're going to be frothing at the mouth by the time this fight is over.

01:41:26.000 I just love the dirty bird. 0.99

01:41:28.000 I think that's the greatest fucking... 1.00

01:41:29.000 He's an animal. 1.00

01:41:29.000 He's a wicked dude. 1.00

01:41:30.000 He's got evil eyes. 0.99

01:41:31.000 Especially from Atlanta. 1.00

01:41:32.000 This motherfucker, when I interviewed him, I was like, ooh, there's some darkness in there. 1.00

01:41:35.000 Some darkness in those eyes. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Looks like a dirty bird. 0.99

01:41:37.000 Both these guys are dark. 0.99

01:41:38.000 Who's on the early prelims?

01:41:40.000 Anyone?

01:41:41.000 Hey, homeboy...

01:41:43.000 Okay.

01:41:43.000 Well, those early prelims.

01:41:44.000 Keep it going, fellas.

01:41:46.000 Paul Pendred versus John Howard is a good fight, too.

01:41:49.000 Who's the old man?

01:41:50.000 He looks like a dentist.

01:41:51.000 The guy on the right? 1.00

01:41:52.000 That's the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

01:41:53.000 He's a tough guy. 1.00

01:41:54.000 You talking about two taps, son?

01:41:56.000 I don't know, dude.

01:41:57.000 With that salty record.

01:41:58.000 That's the strangest face I've ever seen in my life.

01:42:00.000 He is a very, very crafty fighter.

01:42:02.000 Let me tell you something.

01:42:02.000 How old is he?

01:42:03.000 He's old.

01:42:04.000 He's like 35. Every bit of 70. He looks 75 years old there.

01:42:07.000 I mean, that's impressive.

01:42:08.000 How old is he?

01:42:09.000 Find out how old he is.

01:42:09.000 I swear to God, it looks like somebody put his face on a body.

01:42:12.000 I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that's incredible.

01:42:14.000 You've got to watch him fight.

01:42:15.000 He's very skillful.

01:42:16.000 Watch your P's and Q's, Brian. 0.98

01:42:18.000 I'm not trying to be a dick. 0.96

01:42:19.000 I'm just saying this. 0.97

01:42:20.000 Okay, let's take a guess.

01:42:20.000 How old do you think Neil is?

01:42:21.000 I'm saying he's 60. I'm saying he's 52. He just turned 59 years old.

01:42:26.000 You guys are out. 1.00

01:42:26.000 Assholes. 1.00

01:42:27.000 What? 1.00

01:42:27.000 We're just saying. 1.00

01:42:28.000 35. Thank you.

01:42:29.000 My knowledge of age is impeccable.

01:42:32.000 I like watching him fight.

01:42:33.000 He's a crafty veteran. 0.97

01:42:34.000 I appreciate the fuck out of that guy. 0.98

01:42:35.000 Me too, man. 0.98

01:42:36.000 I'm not saying I don't!

01:42:37.000 I'm just saying he looked over the picture.

01:42:38.000 I'd love for him to get his hands on Brian.

01:42:39.000 It's a bad picture. 1.00

01:42:41.000 He would rape you. 1.00

01:42:41.000 I'd love that. 1.00

01:42:42.000 I called his last fight, and I enjoyed it very much.

01:42:45.000 He's Irish, too, man.

01:42:45.000 He's very, very skillful.

01:42:46.000 Okay, guys, I'm just saying it was a bad picture. 1.00

01:42:48.000 Fuck off! 1.00

01:42:48.000 Smolka's no joke, dude. 1.00

01:42:50.000 Smolka's a tough kid.

01:42:51.000 It was a good fight.

01:42:52.000 It was a very good fight.

01:42:53.000 I like that fight.

01:42:54.000 Brad Pickett versus Almeida is a good fight.

01:42:56.000 Look at the big fights we've already discussed.

01:42:59.000 Nelson versus Thatch is a big fight to me.

01:43:01.000 Matt Brown versus Tim Means, I'm looking forward to that fight as much as any fight this year.

01:43:05.000 You know why? 0.99

01:43:06.000 Because that's fucking chaos. 1.00

01:43:07.000 The style-wise is pure chaos. 1.00

01:43:09.000 And skillful-wise.

01:43:11.000 Matt Brown is very skillful, means is very skillful.

01:43:13.000 Both guys are ferocious.

01:43:15.000 I love that fight. 0.98

01:43:16.000 And Nelson versus Thatch, I fucking love that fight. 0.98

01:43:19.000 Clash of styles. 0.98

01:43:21.000 Big clash of styles.

01:43:22.000 Nelson's not exactly a finisher.

01:43:24.000 Well, he can if he gets you on the ground, but Thatch is a warrior, dude.

01:43:27.000 And he's huge.

01:43:28.000 He's huge for that weight class.

01:43:30.000 And his KO power is undeniable.

01:43:31.000 His stand-up is some of the best.

01:43:32.000 Dennis Bermudez was on a roll until Llamas stopped him.

01:43:37.000 He won seven in a row.

01:43:39.000 He caught him with that beautiful guillotine.

01:43:41.000 Llamas has got that sidestep guillotine where he traps that arm.

01:43:44.000 Bermudez's body? 0.93

01:43:45.000 Thick-ass thighs. 0.82

01:43:47.000 Badonkadonk, right? 0.96

01:43:47.000 Brown, too. 0.96

01:43:48.000 Big old brown.

01:43:50.000 And Jeremy Stevens, you want to talk about a murderous striker. 1.00

01:43:53.000 That kid can fucking bang. 0.99

01:43:54.000 And he's getting better all the time, too. 0.99

01:43:56.000 Training down there in San Diego.

01:43:59.000 I'm with you, man. 0.98

01:44:00.000 The card's ridiculous. 0.90

01:44:01.000 Robbie Lawler versus Rory McDonald. 0.81

01:44:03.000 People are sleeping on that fight.

01:44:04.000 I'm so excited about that.

01:44:05.000 They're sleeping on that fight.

01:44:06.000 I know you don't like to call things, but... 1.00

01:44:08.000 Robbie Lawler is a motherfucker, dude. 1.00

01:44:11.000 You know why? 1.00

01:44:11.000 His cardio lately is a beast. 1.00

01:44:13.000 He's sticking around in late rounds, too.

01:44:15.000 Yep, and he knows how to pace himself.

01:44:16.000 Well, he didn't kind of...

01:44:17.000 In the Hendricks fight, he kind of went at him, guns blazing that first round, trying to kill him.

01:44:21.000 I heard he doesn't spar.

01:44:22.000 No, he does.

01:44:23.000 He doesn't.

01:44:23.000 He used not to.

01:44:25.000 He stopped for a long time, but a big part of his resurrection is him training at AT&T. AT&T and AT&T. When he went to American Top Team.

01:44:32.000 I say the same shit. 0.99

01:44:34.000 That was a big part of his resurrection is also he started sparring again there. 1.00

01:44:37.000 God, he looks like a bad motherfucker. 0.99

01:44:39.000 Rory's just so calculated, man. 0.99

01:44:41.000 And when they fought last time, it was a close fight, remember?

01:44:43.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:44:43.000 And Rory had a fucked up ankle in that fight. 0.96

01:44:45.000 Yeah. 0.91

01:44:46.000 I think Rory changed his nickname again.

01:44:48.000 Now he's the Red King. 0.97

01:44:49.000 I like the Canadian psycho. 0.96

01:44:51.000 He likes Red King. 0.95

01:44:52.000 I think he's the best.

01:44:53.000 I think he and Carlos Condit, that's the fight I'd like to see.

01:44:56.000 He was the best 70-pounder.

01:44:59.000 I would like to see that again.

01:45:00.000 I think he's going to win this fight, and I think he's just incredible.

01:45:02.000 I know, but he was a lot younger.

01:45:03.000 Oh, he was really young.

01:45:04.000 He was 21 at the time.

01:45:05.000 Well, they've already fought, too.

01:45:06.000 I think, you know, Rory's the favorite in this fight. 0.96

01:45:09.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:45:10.000 But he's a different fighter.

01:45:11.000 I can see it, though.

01:45:12.000 So is Robbie.

01:45:13.000 Robbie's completely different. 1.00

01:45:14.000 Robbie's the champion of the fucking world, dude. 0.99

01:45:16.000 100%. 0.99

01:45:16.000 He's a different fighter, too. 0.99

01:45:18.000 And he's going to come into this fight a different fighter.

01:45:20.000 This is a very interesting fight, but if Rory can start picking him apart technique-wise, that's when things get interesting.

01:45:26.000 Because Rory, with full movement, Rory had a fucked-up ankle in that fight. 0.99

01:45:29.000 I think Rory wins this fight. 1.00

01:45:31.000 I know you guys know.

01:45:32.000 I think Rory wins this fight. 1.00

01:45:33.000 Close fight.

01:45:34.000 Close fight.

01:45:34.000 Or Robbie does what he did in the first fight and hurts him bad.

01:45:37.000 I agree.

01:45:38.000 And then maybe even finishes him off. 0.99

01:45:39.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.99

01:45:40.000 Who knows? 0.99

01:45:40.000 I love that fight, though. 0.99

01:45:41.000 I like Rory in that fight, though.

01:45:43.000 That's going to be incredible.

01:45:45.000 Men has McGregor, man.

01:45:48.000 I have no idea what they expect in that fight.

01:45:50.000 Mendes took this fight on short notice.

01:45:52.000 A big factor in this fight is how much was Mendes training before he got the call.

01:45:57.000 How much was he training?

01:45:58.000 Huge factor.

01:45:59.000 Especially for five rounds.

01:46:00.000 Here's another factor.

01:46:01.000 Are they allowed to use IVs in this fight? 0.75

01:46:04.000 I don't know.

01:46:05.000 When is that going to play?

01:46:05.000 Is that a big weight cut for Chad Mendes?

01:46:07.000 Yes.

01:46:07.000 It's a big cut for both guys.

01:46:10.000 They said that Conor McGregor, according to Chael Sonnen, Conor McGregor is cutting 27 pounds this week.

01:46:15.000 Oh my God.

01:46:16.000 He was good at it, too.

01:46:18.000 172. What?

01:46:19.000 And I believe him, man.

01:46:20.000 When I stand next to him... 1.00

01:46:21.000 Fuck, he's a big dude. 1.00

01:46:23.000 He's a big dude. 1.00

01:46:23.000 You ever seen that picture of me and him next to each other? 1.00

01:46:25.000 I was like, damn. 0.98

01:46:25.000 He's very wide. 0.98

01:46:27.000 Huge shoulders.

01:46:29.000 Yeah, he's thick.

01:46:30.000 And it's all where the punching power comes from.

01:46:32.000 It's all shoulders and... 0.55

01:46:34.000 I love Chad, man.

01:46:35.000 I love Mendez.

01:46:36.000 He's one of the good guys.

01:46:37.000 He's the best guy Conor McGregor's ever fought.

01:46:40.000 Not even close.

01:46:41.000 Not even close.

01:46:42.000 He's a totally different animal.

01:46:43.000 The thing is, can Conor beat a guy to this level?

01:46:46.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:46:47.000 That is the question.

01:46:47.000 I want to see him do it.

01:46:48.000 I root for greatness.

01:46:50.000 I want to see greatness.

01:46:51.000 I do too, but I root for Chad's greatness as well.

01:46:53.000 Like I said, I love both guys.

01:46:55.000 I think if I'm the UFC brass, we want Conor to win.

01:46:58.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99

01:46:59.000 But we're not giving them any fucking layups. 0.99

01:47:01.000 This is a conversation that Dana and I had on the phone. 0.98

01:47:03.000 I said, listen, man, you gotta think about who was your biggest pay-per-view star, and it was a gentleman.

01:47:06.000 George St. Pierre was the biggest pay-per-view star.

01:47:08.000 A good-looking gentleman.

01:47:09.000 And that's Chad Mendes.

01:47:10.000 Yes, but guess what?

01:47:11.000 George St. Pierre was always far and away.

01:47:13.000 He beat everybody, and he always beat everybody.

01:47:14.000 No, he didn't.

01:47:15.000 Matt Serra knocked him dead.

01:47:16.000 One example.

01:47:18.000 He outclassed everybody.

01:47:20.000 No, Matt Hughes tapped him out.

01:47:21.000 Look, he lost.

01:47:22.000 I know that, but that was earlier.

01:47:24.000 Same thing with him.

01:47:26.000 Do you understand that's the same thing with Mendez?

01:47:29.000 Same thing with Mendez. 0.99

01:47:30.000 Mendez lost twice to the best fucking guy on the planet Earth. 0.99

01:47:33.000 Yeah, true. 0.99

01:47:34.000 He lost once by knockout.

01:47:35.000 He got caught with a knee.

01:47:36.000 George was a different star because he represented Canada and he was so dominant for a very, very long time after he lost.

01:47:43.000 Does Chad Mendes win this?

01:47:45.000 I think this belt rotates.

01:47:47.000 That's what I think, too.

01:47:48.000 Who knows, man? 0.99

01:47:49.000 Or Mendes could go on a goddamn tear and become a dominant champion. 0.97

01:47:52.000 Knock out Aldo in the rematch for the title, for the undisputed title. 0.98

01:47:55.000 Anything can happen.

01:47:56.000 It's a different time period.

01:47:57.000 Does Conor McGregor have a wrestler?

01:48:01.000 Way more talented.

01:48:02.000 145 is as deep as it gets now.

01:48:04.000 And there's the Dark Horses. 0.82

01:48:06.000 Killers.

01:48:06.000 Amarkani.

01:48:07.000 Fucking killers. 1.00

01:48:07.000 Yair Rodriguez. 1.00

01:48:08.000 Yair Rodriguez is fucking terrifying. 1.00

01:48:10.000 Terrifying. 0.99

01:48:11.000 He's 22, 23 years old, 145. How about fucking Max Holloway? 1.00

01:48:16.000 That motherfucker gets better every time he fights. 1.00

01:48:19.000 That fight with Cub Swanson looks fantastic. 1.00

01:48:22.000 Well, he hurt himself once he was already beating him.

01:48:24.000 He got him on the ground and in a guard pass position, popped his knee.

01:48:28.000 Does Conor McGregor have wrestlers he trains with who are on the level of Chad Mendes?

01:48:32.000 No.

01:48:34.000 He's not training with Mendes, but he's training with very good guys.

01:48:37.000 High level wrestlers.

01:48:38.000 Yeah, you don't get to this level without bringing him.

01:48:41.000 But as far as a high level MMA wrestler who's also a banger like Chad Mendes, there's only a few guys on the planet like Mendes.

01:48:49.000 So how do you prepare for that kind of pressure all the time?

01:48:51.000 You just have guys constantly trying to take you down?

01:48:53.000 Well, it's a different game.

01:48:54.000 See, he's got a different...

01:48:56.000 The thing is, he's fighting a totally different style now.

01:48:59.000 He was going to fight a guy who he probably didn't really have to worry too much about taking him down.

01:49:03.000 What he had to worry about is being heavy on his left leg if he stands orthodox.

01:49:07.000 You've got to be real careful.

01:49:08.000 Because all those kicks come 30% faster than anybody else in the division. 1.00

01:49:12.000 They come, and that fucking shin is a whip. 1.00

01:49:16.000 It's just whack! 1.00

01:49:17.000 Hitting that thigh, and then you feel the throbbing, and you realize, like, oh my god, I can't take many of these. 0.98

01:49:23.000 That Uriah Faber fight is a goddamn wake-up call to anybody. 0.99

01:49:27.000 You want to learn about what happens to your fucking leg. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Yeah, true. 1.00

01:49:29.000 Frank Yeager, Frank Yeager put a stop to those leg kicks. 1.00

01:49:32.000 He just dove into a double leg every time it happened. 1.00

01:49:34.000 Frank Yeager's a bad motherfucker. 0.99

01:49:36.000 Literally, he'd kick and he'd just boom, and he stopped throwing that leg kick. 1.00

01:49:38.000 He stopped throwing it.

01:49:39.000 Well, that's his boy, right, Henry?

01:49:40.000 Yeah, hell yeah.

01:49:41.000 Mark Henry. 0.99

01:49:42.000 Mark Henry really fucking is a fantastic coach. 0.99

01:49:44.000 He's a mastermind. 0.99

01:49:45.000 He literally would just dive in, like he'd kick him, boom, and just go into it.

01:49:48.000 This fight is so interesting to me, man.

01:49:51.000 Very interesting.

01:49:52.000 It would be interesting if they both had full camps.

01:49:54.000 It's interesting now with the added element of the fact they didn't have full camp to prepare for each other.

01:49:59.000 Of course, Conor is in full camp for Aldo, so he's going to be in shape, but strategically, game plan-wise, and having those fine motor skills prepared for stuffing that takedown, keeping the I bet you he wasn't even working stuffing takedowns because Aldo isn't a guy who takes you down.

01:50:18.000 Well, he certainly would work on everything. 0.97

01:50:20.000 You don't get to this level, Brian, without fucking covering all your bases. 0.99

01:50:24.000 Yeah, but if you're going with guys in practice, they're not just going to sit there like dumbasses. 1.00

01:50:28.000 No, it's MMA. You're just not going to bring in strikers. 0.95

01:50:31.000 You're going to bring in all sorts of guys.

01:50:33.000 Yeah, it's a good fight.

01:50:34.000 His boy is Nelson.

01:50:37.000 His boy's Nelson.

01:50:38.000 He's phenomenal at jiu-jitsu.

01:50:41.000 And very good at takedowns.

01:50:43.000 There's a lot to like about this fight.

01:50:44.000 A lot to like.

01:50:45.000 I can't wait.

01:50:46.000 I like this fight as much as I like the Aldo fight, if not more.

01:50:48.000 I really do.

01:50:49.000 Because I've been wanting to see...

01:50:51.000 I disagree.

01:50:51.000 You're allowed to.

01:50:52.000 I've been wanting to see Conor fight a wrestler.

01:50:55.000 But not on a 12-week notice, I don't. 0.99

01:50:57.000 I think it's fucked up. 1.00

01:50:58.000 I don't like watching shit happen. 1.00

01:51:00.000 Ha! 1.00

01:51:00.000 I do. 1.00

01:51:01.000 I got a real problem.

01:51:03.000 If you're his coach and you know he's gonna get taken down, you just tell him to keep standing up.

01:51:08.000 No jujitsu.

01:51:08.000 Just keep standing up.

01:51:09.000 Keep trying to stand up. 1.00

01:51:10.000 What kind of strategy are you fucking... 0.99

01:51:12.000 I don't know, man. 0.99

01:51:13.000 Can you just sit the next round out?

01:51:14.000 What do you ask him?

01:51:16.000 What are you telling me?

01:51:16.000 It's Conor, man.

01:51:17.000 He does his thing.

01:51:19.000 You gotta remember, he got taken down by Dennis Seaver.

01:51:21.000 I know.

01:51:21.000 People forget that.

01:51:22.000 He got taken down.

01:51:23.000 I remember it.

01:51:23.000 Popped up, but he got taken down like three or four times.

01:51:26.000 It's harder to pop up against Chad Mendes.

01:51:28.000 But he got taken down.

01:51:29.000 We probably didn't anticipate that it was going to turn into a wrestling match at all.

01:51:33.000 Well, whatever it is, you still got taken down by Dennis Seaver.

01:51:36.000 Right.

01:51:36.000 That's what worries me.

01:51:40.000 Chad Mendes is no fucking joke, dude. 0.98

01:51:42.000 Oh, but the problem is... 0.98

01:51:45.000 If I'm a betting man, I think Chad Mendes knocks him out in the third round, faking a takedown, landing a big overhand.

01:51:54.000 That's what I think.

01:51:56.000 What my heart wants, I want Conor to go out there and win.

01:51:59.000 Why do you want Conor to win?

01:52:01.000 I want Conor Wink because I like what he stands for.

01:52:03.000 And when I met him, he was just a natural, genuinely good dude.

01:52:07.000 And he's beating the game.

01:52:09.000 I like people who beat the game.

01:52:10.000 He's a star.

01:52:11.000 He's the 1% of 1%ers and he backs it up. 1.00

01:52:14.000 He's our Muhammad Ali.

01:52:15.000 To see a guy lose on a matchup that he got on 12 days notice and it's a completely different style, I don't want to see him go out like that.

01:52:22.000 He's so excited to watch.

01:52:23.000 Last time he lost, he was out for a grip, you gotta remember.

01:52:26.000 He was in the UFC. He lost.

01:52:28.000 He didn't come into the gym.

01:52:29.000 His coach was like, bro, you don't come back in the gym, man.

01:52:31.000 Just get out of here. 0.96

01:52:33.000 I don't want to see him go out like that, man.

01:52:35.000 He has a chance to be great.

01:52:37.000 He has a chance to be our LeBron James.

01:52:40.000 But of course, if something horrible happens like this, what happens to him, man? 0.97

01:52:44.000 So you think the UFC's fucking up? 0.86

01:52:46.000 You think the UFC should just postpone the fight? 0.97

01:52:47.000 I think it's a bad idea what they're doing. 0.97

01:52:49.000 If I was his manager, and I swear to God I said this on the podcast, I would tell him to fake a fucking injury and wait until October. 0.98

01:52:56.000 I really would. 0.98

01:52:57.000 But you guys got to understand how much money has been spent on this promotion.

01:53:00.000 I understand.

01:53:01.000 You're looking at it very short-sighted, just like the Reebok deal.

01:53:06.000 You should hold it.

01:53:08.000 Break the tank! 0.89

01:53:10.000 Break the tank! 0.89

01:53:12.000 Break the tank! 0.89

01:53:14.000 Break the tank! 0.89

01:53:16.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:53:17.000 Doing a very short sight.

01:53:18.000 We make a quick buck this weekend, but in the grand scheme of things, he has potential to be your biggest star of all time.

01:53:24.000 But let's give him the worst matchup possible on 12 days' notice.

01:53:27.000 And he just went through a whole camp.

01:53:29.000 Who knows if he's healthy?

01:53:30.000 What if he wins?

01:53:31.000 Then he's the best.

01:53:32.000 That's the gamble.

01:53:33.000 That's a big gamble.

01:53:34.000 He has the interim title.

01:53:36.000 That's a big gamble.

01:53:37.000 Tell Jose, I'm coming for the other belt.

01:53:40.000 I've got the real belt.

01:53:41.000 That's what I want to hear.

01:53:42.000 Get your spit bucket and shine up my belt and bring it here to me now. 1.00

01:53:45.000 If he wins, oh, it pays off.

01:53:47.000 It's huge!

01:53:48.000 It's the big... 1.00

01:53:49.000 Oh, fuck yes. 1.00

01:53:50.000 Everyone in the UFC is like, okay. 1.00

01:53:51.000 I get myself an ankle problem real quick.

01:53:54.000 There's so many questions about him, man.

01:53:54.000 There's so many questions.

01:53:55.000 And that's what's exciting about the Mendes fight.

01:53:58.000 Look, for sure Aldo was going to test him. 0.98

01:54:01.000 But Mendes is going to fucking test him too. 0.98

01:54:03.000 In a different way. 0.99

01:54:04.000 For sure.

01:54:04.000 We need to find out whether or not they can use IVs for this fight.

01:54:08.000 I'm just saying it's rare you get a guy of his capabilities, and we have something that could be great here.

01:54:16.000 To give him this horrible matchup on 12 Days is tough.

01:54:19.000 I just love his entertainment.

01:54:20.000 He makes me want to see the fight.

01:54:23.000 He's so exciting.

01:54:24.000 He's such a great showman.

01:54:26.000 I love Chad.

01:54:26.000 Everyone knows this.

01:54:27.000 I love Chad.

01:54:27.000 People that are listening, please let me know if you do know whether or not, because we're not going to Google this while it's happening.

01:54:33.000 Please let me know if you know whether or not they're going to be able to use IVs during this fight.

01:54:37.000 If they'll be able to use IVs after this weigh-in.

01:54:41.000 That's big, man.

01:54:42.000 It's gonna be giant, and especially when you've got a guy like Connors cut in 27 pounds.

01:54:46.000 Where did you get that statistic about it takes seven days to fully rehydrate?

01:54:49.000 I talked to a medic, an army medic on the set of Kingdom, who was a wrestler in college, and he was talking about how he said the biggest problem with this IV thing, and this is just him, I don't know if it's right, but he said the biggest problem is that you can see a lot more traumatic brain injury If guys aren't allowed to hydrate with IVs,

01:55:07.000 because it takes a long time to hydrate orally as opposed to with an IV. And he said that to get fully hydrated where your cells are where they were before it takes up to seven days.

01:55:18.000 Now, I don't know if that's, you know, the case.

01:55:20.000 Well, that's what Andy Foster said, that a good percentage of fighters are fighting dehydrated.

01:55:26.000 When they get into the octagon, they're not fully hydrated.

01:55:28.000 Not good for your brain.

01:55:29.000 No.

01:55:29.000 Not good for your brain.

01:55:30.000 A lot of times you see guys who weren't successful at one weight class and they cut weight class and then their chin goes.

01:55:35.000 It's usually because they're cutting a lot of weight.

01:55:37.000 So you don't have that fluid in the brain.

01:55:39.000 Very dangerous.

01:55:39.000 Jamie's got some information for us.

01:55:42.000 Okay, July 1st.

01:55:43.000 That means UFC 189 participants can expect to be a part of the new regime.

01:55:47.000 Oh my god.

01:55:52.000 So this 189, they can't... 1.00

01:55:56.000 Fucking rehydrate. 1.00

01:55:56.000 Let me ask you this. 1.00

01:55:57.000 How do they know if a guy rehydrates with electrolytes and fluid?

01:56:00.000 Well, here's the problem.

01:56:01.000 How can you test that?

01:56:02.000 Yeah, that's a good point.

01:56:03.000 Oh, no, you can test.

01:56:04.000 You can test.

01:56:04.000 Because you can test for plastics in the blood.

01:56:07.000 There's residue.

01:56:08.000 You're talking about microscopic amounts of residue from the plastics. 1.00

01:56:11.000 Now you're testing for fucking plastics. 0.94

01:56:13.000 Now you're testing for plastics, which apparently, the reason this all came out is the plastics can mask, apparently, according to this medic, the plastics themselves, I guess, can mask whether or not you've been blood doping. 0.99

01:56:24.000 Or there are similar compounds in there, and it makes it harder to test.

01:56:29.000 That's not what I had heard.

01:56:30.000 That's interesting, but it might be true.

01:56:31.000 What I had heard was that the plastics was how they test for blood doping.

01:56:36.000 Oh, okay, okay.

01:56:37.000 If they test your blood, and your blood has traces of this plastic in it, it means you might have taken bags of blood and put them back in your body.

01:56:44.000 That doesn't hold water either, though, because then you could just say, I was doing what everybody else did, which is an IV. I was rehydrating.

01:56:49.000 But you can't do an IV. You can't do an IV. No, I'm saying before that, right?

01:56:51.000 Well, they didn't test for it before that.

01:56:53.000 This is the first time they've ever tested for these plastics.

01:56:55.000 I don't know, man.

01:56:56.000 Because this is the first time they've had IVs.

01:56:57.000 IVs have been used not just openly, but, I mean, they talk about it.

01:57:02.000 Yes!

01:57:02.000 Everyone does.

01:57:03.000 Yes! 1.00

01:57:04.000 It's healthier for the fucking fighters. 1.00

01:57:07.000 It's dangerous to not IV. Right, but is it... 1.00

01:57:10.000 Look, BJ Penn says IVs are for wimps, and he wrote hashtag beer and hot dogs.

01:57:14.000 He's never sucked a lot of weight, though.

01:57:16.000 Yes, he has.

01:57:17.000 He made 145. BJ Penn is...

01:57:20.000 Look at that.

01:57:21.000 He's not that tall.

01:57:22.000 BJ also fought at a different time, though, I think.

01:57:24.000 It's a little different now.

01:57:26.000 It's not as hard for him.

01:57:27.000 Guys are cutting a lot more weight back in the day. 0.93

01:57:28.000 Right, but I still say that the BJ Penn that fought Diego Sanchez was one of the best, if not the best, 155 pounds that ever walked the fucking face of the planet. 0.97

01:57:37.000 I agree. 0.97

01:57:39.000 Didn't use an IV. I understand, but guess what?

01:57:41.000 He's the exception.

01:57:42.000 BJ Penn walks around, not heavier than 170 from what I've seen.

01:57:46.000 No.

01:57:46.000 No, you're right.

01:57:47.000 Which is smaller than Conor McGregor.

01:57:49.000 Yeah, it's not a huge weight cut for him.

01:57:51.000 And he fought Liotta Machida at heavyweight.

01:57:53.000 How insane is that?

01:57:53.000 That's my boy!

01:57:54.000 Such a badass.

01:57:55.000 BJ Penn, such a legend.

01:57:57.000 He's a warrior.

01:57:58.000 And the nicest guy ever.

01:58:00.000 The best.

01:58:01.000 He's awesome. 1.00

01:58:01.000 Unless you fuck with him. 1.00

01:58:03.000 No, I don't want to fuck with him. 1.00

01:58:05.000 That's the wrong dude to fuck with. 1.00

01:58:06.000 Yeah, I remember when Dov Davidov and I met him at this premiere. 1.00

01:58:08.000 Oh, wait a minute.

01:58:09.000 The IV ban, somebody just tweeted me this.

01:58:12.000 The IV ban has been pushed till October.

01:58:14.000 Oh, snap, son!

01:58:16.000 The back IV ban for UFC fighters until October.

01:58:19.000 Nice.

01:58:20.000 Concerns over dangerous weight cuts and improper rehydration in the short term have won out over the US ADA's desire to get rid of IV usage.

01:58:29.000 Fighters now have a three-month grace period to adjust.

01:58:33.000 Yeah, there's an argument that they shouldn't do this.

01:58:35.000 I agree.

01:58:36.000 I'm gonna go pee out of my... 1.00

01:58:37.000 You go pee out of your dick hole. 1.00

01:58:38.000 Thank you to Dan Worms. 1.00

01:58:40.000 I'm not after you.

01:58:40.000 Dan Worms on Twitter for sending me that information.

01:58:45.000 Yeah, this is interesting times, man.

01:58:47.000 It's a game changer, man.

01:58:48.000 Interesting times.

01:58:49.000 And the reason they postpone is what I heard is there's a lot of pushback, right?

01:58:52.000 Like a lot of fighters are like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:58:53.000 Too short notice, man.

01:58:54.000 Doctors as well.

01:58:55.000 I'm sure.

01:58:56.000 Including the UFC doctor.

01:58:58.000 And who makes these rules?

01:58:59.000 People who have never fought or cut weight before, really.

01:59:01.000 Exactly.

01:59:01.000 Especially in the Octagon.

01:59:03.000 But you can't do this.

01:59:04.000 Okay, how many fights have you been in? 1.00

01:59:05.000 Shut your fucking mouth. 1.00

01:59:06.000 Yeah, I don't know what they're thinking, man, with all this bringing these people in to... 1.00

01:59:11.000 I mean, I guess the idea is to try to clean up the sport, but...

01:59:13.000 Relax.

01:59:14.000 Short term, it could be devastating.

01:59:16.000 Horribly devastating.

01:59:17.000 The thing is, is...

01:59:19.000 To my understanding, they say they test five times out of competition randomly, right?

01:59:25.000 Now, that's just five random guys.

01:59:27.000 Five times a year.

01:59:28.000 Five random guys a year.

01:59:29.000 That's not five.

01:59:30.000 Every fighter's tested five times per year.

01:59:32.000 Every fighter's tested five times a year.

01:59:34.000 I don't think so.

01:59:34.000 I think it's five random.

01:59:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:59:36.000 Every fighter on the roster is going to be tested five times randomly a year.

01:59:41.000 Are you sure?

01:59:42.000 Yes.

01:59:42.000 Because they told me otherwise.

01:59:44.000 Dominic Cruz told me otherwise.

01:59:45.000 Well, Dominic may be right, but I don't think he is.

01:59:48.000 Every fighter on the UFC roster...

01:59:49.000 I thought it was every fighter on the UFC roster tested five times a year, which is ridiculous.

01:59:54.000 Yeah, I think that's exactly it.

01:59:56.000 But then that's what, and Dominic's like, no, man, it's five fighters randomly throughout the year.

02:00:01.000 No, that doesn't make any sense. 1.00

02:00:02.000 That's stupid. 0.99

02:00:02.000 But if they can test anyone. 0.99

02:00:05.000 Revamped UFC drug policy includes, here it is, includes random year-round testing, two-year suspension for first-time offenders.

02:00:16.000 Let's see.

02:00:17.000 First offense.

02:00:19.000 Okay, when are they going to test?

02:00:20.000 Where does it say?

02:00:21.000 Five.

02:00:21.000 Tell me to find this.

02:00:23.000 See, I thought everyone could be tested, but they're not guaranteed each individual tested five times throughout the year.

02:00:31.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

02:00:32.000 Think how many tests that is.

02:00:33.000 Yeah, but I think that's the whole idea.

02:00:38.000 Yeah, no, every fighter, five times a year.

02:00:40.000 Man, for sure save money on testing and give it to the fighters in sponsorship.

02:00:44.000 I've got to take a pee myself.

02:00:45.000 No, they're not going to save the money for the fighters.

02:00:48.000 Nope, let's just keep testing and spend a million dollars.

02:00:51.000 Randomly test all 500 athletes several times a year.

02:00:54.000 We're sending a message.

02:00:55.000 If you're cheating, you'll get caught, suspended, and fined.

02:00:58.000 We want the sport to be clean.

02:01:00.000 Wow.

02:01:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:01:01.000 Damn. 1.00

02:01:03.000 Yeah, I don't know, man. 0.99

02:01:04.000 You know, I don't know what to say.

02:01:06.000 It's all...

02:01:07.000 In a way, I feel like science is...

02:01:11.000 They're not on the side of time and technological advancement, and it's going to be very tough, because I feel like science is always going to find a way to beat any kind of...

02:01:21.000 Testing is always behind.

02:01:23.000 I'm not saying it's an excuse, but I'm just saying it's going to be interesting to see how now scientists who are involved in the fight game and fighters figure out a way around this testing five times a year.

02:01:34.000 Very difficult, but something will happen.

02:01:36.000 Well, it'll be a battle between the cheaters and the detectors because the science involved in detecting is getting better as well.

02:01:43.000 So it's weird, man.

02:01:45.000 It's like there's a battle between cheaters and non-cheaters.

02:01:48.000 How many guys just snuck under the wire and retired before it all ended?

02:01:54.000 I would imagine a lot.

02:01:56.000 You can just see the change in their bodies. 0.98

02:01:58.000 When Randy Couture was in his 40s and he was beating his shit up, wouldn't you love to kind of look at his blood work? 0.60

02:02:02.000 Well, he was kind of open about being on TRT, I think, later on in his career, right? 0.93

02:02:08.000 I don't believe he was.

02:02:09.000 I thought it was kind of known when he was 45. He was doing some testosterone.

02:02:13.000 No.

02:02:13.000 No?

02:02:14.000 No, I think it was all just speculation.

02:02:16.000 Again, I don't know how you do it without training three times a day.

02:02:22.000 Wrestling, kicking, good luck.

02:02:24.000 I would like to do blood work on Herschel Walker.

02:02:27.000 When Herschel Walker was 48 and he fought in Strikeforce and was built like a brick shithouse. 0.79

02:02:31.000 He's been a freak, though.

02:02:32.000 He's been such a 1%er for so long in the NFL. In college, they were like, what? 0.97

02:02:38.000 He's a 1%er of 1%. 0.99

02:02:39.000 235 with world-class speed.

02:02:41.000 Outlier.

02:02:42.000 Total outlier.

02:02:43.000 Just like Bo Jackson.

02:02:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:02:45.000 Nobody had seen anything like that.

02:02:46.000 Yeah, every now and then you get one of those dudes, right?

02:02:48.000 Didn't even lift.

02:02:49.000 Just had a crazy regimen, exercise regimen, but just body weight stuff and a thousand push-ups a day, a thousand sit-ups a day.

02:02:56.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 Weird, weird stuff.

02:02:58.000 It was a religion for him.

02:02:59.000 He never went out and drank.

02:03:00.000 They did a really interesting profile on him.

02:03:03.000 Well, there was other guys that were like that, too.

02:03:05.000 I mean, there's always a few guys that just will work harder than anybody else on top of the fact that they're just absolute freak athletes.

02:03:12.000 Yes.

02:03:12.000 And that's like a Hershel Walker.

02:03:14.000 Yes.

02:03:14.000 Kobe Bryant, same way.

02:03:15.000 Nobody has his work ethic.

02:03:16.000 It's weird, his work ethic.

02:03:17.000 Kobe Bryant?

02:03:18.000 Yeah.

02:03:18.000 The craziest thing in the world.

02:03:20.000 Nothing better.

02:03:20.000 Michael Jordan, too.

02:03:21.000 And Floyd Mayweather.

02:03:22.000 Floyd Mayweather is so obsessed with training, he'll wake up at 3 in the morning and make everybody come to the gym. 0.95

02:03:27.000 Then he'll come home and beat the shit out of his wife just for extra training. 1.00

02:03:30.000 I mean, it's ridiculous, man. 1.00

02:03:31.000 This training is ridiculous. 1.00

02:03:33.000 I think he's more of a choker. 0.99

02:03:34.000 No, no, he's not.

02:03:35.000 He doesn't like the UFC. No, I heard he hits her on top of the head so she can't see the welts.

02:03:39.000 Oh, that's interesting.

02:03:39.000 Oh, because you have to shave her head to prove the welts?

02:03:41.000 Jesus.

02:03:42.000 Well, that's smart.

02:03:43.000 Jesus, he's smart in a bad way.

02:03:44.000 You don't get to his level without being smart.

02:03:46.000 You know what you do?

02:03:46.000 You open hand bones.

02:03:48.000 Well.

02:03:49.000 I don't want to give advice.

02:03:50.000 What's that movie with the Travis Brown song?

02:03:52.000 Uh-huh.

02:03:53.000 Do what?

02:03:54.000 Uh-huh.

02:03:55.000 Okay.

02:03:56.000 Now, do I hit him with the liver or... 0.94

02:03:58.000 When Brittany Palmer's husband's like, keep going, Joe.

02:04:01.000 Do you remember that movie, The Grifters, when the guy takes a pillowcase and he starts putting oranges in the pillowcase and he goes, you know why I'm doing this.

02:04:10.000 And Angelica Houston goes, yeah, yeah. 0.97

02:04:12.000 She can hit me. 1.00

02:04:13.000 When you hit somebody with a pillowcase with oranges, it doesn't create any bruises.

02:04:18.000 And she knows he's going to take a pillowcase with oranges.

02:04:21.000 I don't think that's true.

02:04:22.000 I love a pellet case where Lauren just hit you in the face. 1.00

02:04:25.000 You fucked up, Cal. 1.00

02:04:27.000 Yeah, you're going to blast her eyes. 1.00

02:04:28.000 Your eyes are going to be swollen shut. 1.00

02:04:29.000 No, he's going to hit her in the body. 0.99

02:04:30.000 And I remember going, God damn, that's terrible. 1.00

02:04:33.000 That's some asshole who wrote a movie that's never beaten anybody up before. 1.00

02:04:37.000 All I know is it awful. 1.00

02:04:40.000 I was like, that's a horrible thing. 0.99

02:04:42.000 A pillowcase with oranges and I'm going to beat the fuck out of you with it. 0.99

02:04:45.000 That is awful. 1.00

02:04:46.000 It's like the woman who killed a man with a frozen leg of lamb.

02:04:52.000 What? 1.00

02:04:52.000 So she took a frozen leg of lamb, bashed him in the fucking head, and then cooked it and ate it. 1.00

02:04:58.000 Was sleeping. 1.00

02:04:58.000 Fed it to her and her kids. 1.00

02:05:00.000 You know, I think apparently he was at the table and she took it and just cracked him in the back of the head and bludgeoned him to death with a leg of lamb and then...

02:05:08.000 Cooked it and ate it.

02:05:09.000 Where did this happen?

02:05:10.000 It was a long time ago.

02:05:11.000 I think it was in England or something.

02:05:12.000 Yeah, England.

02:05:13.000 England.

02:05:14.000 It's funny you say Scotland, you know.

02:05:15.000 Jesus, man. 0.96

02:05:16.000 Crazy, right?

02:05:17.000 People killed people with everything.

02:05:18.000 They come up with all kinds of ways.

02:05:20.000 Skateboards.

02:05:20.000 Sure, people killed people with skateboards.

02:05:21.000 If you can think of it, it's happening.

02:05:22.000 You want to get rid of the body? 0.89

02:05:24.000 That's why they say the mafia used to feed you to pigs. 0.99

02:05:27.000 Because they'll eat everything in your head. 0.99

02:05:29.000 There's that Mexican cartel guy.

02:05:31.000 I forget the name for it, but in Spanish it means porridge stew.

02:05:35.000 Because he would have this vat where he'd put the bodies in.

02:05:37.000 Well, acid.

02:05:38.000 They use acid.

02:05:39.000 That's true.

02:05:40.000 They talked about this guy who, he was involved in horse racing, and he turned out to be a member of the Zeta Cartel, or what was that?

02:05:47.000 Remember those guys were really awful.

02:05:49.000 Yeah, one of them, for sure.

02:05:50.000 And he used to, he was big in the horse racing thing, and one of the testimonies was that the guy, he brought him out to talk to him, because they were just a little suspicious.

02:05:59.000 And another guy was walked out, and he had a blindfold on.

02:06:02.000 And they just shot him.

02:06:05.000 Boom! 0.99

02:06:06.000 Shot him. 1.00

02:06:06.000 And then put him in acid. 1.00

02:06:08.000 And they go, look, so we want to talk to you.

02:06:10.000 Sorry about that.

02:06:11.000 And the guy starts throwing up, you know, just terrified.

02:06:14.000 He goes, sorry, we had a nasty business, but anyway, he's gone now.

02:06:17.000 Just boiling away in acid, just disappearing.

02:06:19.000 And he goes, so we had to talk.

02:06:21.000 There's a rumor, apparently, that you're talking to cops.

02:06:24.000 I know that's not true.

02:06:25.000 Personally, I know.

02:06:26.000 I just want you to know that I know it's not true.

02:06:29.000 Anyway, you want to grab a beer?

02:06:32.000 That's how they would kind of let you know, by the way, that if there's any question, you'll be in that vato acid.

02:06:39.000 Yeah, you might want to start planning your trip to Costa Rica. 0.99

02:06:42.000 You might want to fucking get some fucking plane ticket to Canada. 0.99

02:06:46.000 When the Feds come to talk to you and they say they're going to protect you, you might want to... 0.99

02:06:49.000 Finland's a good spot.

02:06:52.000 I mean, how much easier was it to get away with crime back in the day than now, man? 0.99

02:06:56.000 You can't do shit now. 0.98

02:06:58.000 You can't do anything now. 0.99

02:06:59.000 They didn't even have fingerprints.

02:07:01.000 Technology, yeah, man.

02:07:02.000 They didn't have fingerprints. 0.99

02:07:03.000 I was watching a documentary on mobsters, like the American Mob, which started in New York and all those guys, and you look at the whole setup they had, and it's like, God, these days, you're not doing that shit, man. 0.99

02:07:12.000 Yeah, but you know what, man? 0.97

02:07:13.000 I talked to some Philly detectives, like two long-time veteran detectives in Philadelphia.

02:07:19.000 I spent a lot of time with them.

02:07:20.000 And I said, you know, he said, we don't rely, you'd be amazed at how we don't rely a lot of times on forensics and fingerprints.

02:07:27.000 He said, when you're investigating a murder, they were homicide detectives.

02:07:29.000 He said, when you're investigating a murder, you have to realize, most people confess.

02:07:34.000 Once you get them in questioning, What you're dealing with is they know in their hearts, they've been raised, even if you're a sociopath, you've been raised from a very young age to believe this, to know that this is the ultimate crime.

02:07:46.000 You took another life.

02:07:47.000 And by the time you get them in there, and you know how to properly interrogate somebody and really ask them questions, and more importantly, get them on your side. 0.99

02:07:56.000 Just go, listen, dude, listen, everybody does crazy shit once in a while. 0.84

02:08:01.000 There's a Radio Lab podcast about that guy that was a very prolific serial killer in the Pacific Northwest with a river killer. 0.98

02:08:08.000 What was it?

02:08:08.000 Green River?

02:08:09.000 Green River Killer in Seattle, I think.

02:08:11.000 He was committing necrophilia on a lot of these girls, and they had to get him to admit it.

02:08:18.000 So they talked to this guy, and the guy who was the interrogator, he talked to him for six months.

02:08:26.000 Every day, he would sit down with this guy for six months. 0.99

02:08:28.000 They would try to figure out what the fuck the guy did. 0.96

02:08:30.000 And then, slowly but surely, over the course of the six months, the dude slowly started admitting all the different things that he did. 0.98

02:08:37.000 Yeah.

02:08:38.000 And admitted why he did it.

02:08:39.000 And admitted he did it just because he enjoyed it.

02:08:41.000 Man.

02:08:42.000 And for a while, you know, he tried to say that the girl pissed him off and this and that. 0.96

02:08:46.000 Did you enter into this knowing that she could make you upset and that you would wind up killing her?

02:08:52.000 And he goes, yes.

02:08:53.000 Yeah, I did.

02:08:54.000 I did.

02:08:54.000 Well, why'd you do it?

02:08:55.000 Because I had to do it. 0.99

02:08:56.000 I had to kill. 0.99

02:08:57.000 Richard Walter, who's an incredible profiler, said, I think it was like the Green River Killer, but the guy was clearly killing women. 0.96

02:09:06.000 And he said to the cops, he said, just put a stakeout at this site.

02:09:12.000 You will find him in his car. 0.98

02:09:14.000 He will be jerking off. 0.99

02:09:15.000 You'll find him. 1.00

02:09:16.000 He'll come back to the site. 0.99

02:09:17.000 He masturbates here and thinks about what he did. 0.95

02:09:20.000 Sure enough, that's how they caught him. 0.99

02:09:23.000 They see a guy jerking off his car, looking right down where he buried the body.

02:09:27.000 Jacking on and off.

02:09:28.000 And they go, hey buddy, want to talk to you.

02:09:29.000 Yeah, what are you doing?

02:09:30.000 And then they come in and that's, there are behaviors, this book The Murder Room is so fucking incredible, this guy Richard Walter. 0.90

02:09:37.000 There are behaviors that people do, like certain guys will rape and kill a woman, but when they're raping her, if she dies in the process, they'll stop immediately because they don't want the cops to think they're freaks. 0.98

02:09:49.000 All kinds of weird shit like that. 0.99

02:09:51.000 Well, that was the thing about this Green River guy is that he didn't want them to know that he fucked them after they were dead. 1.00

02:09:55.000 That's right. 0.99

02:09:55.000 He didn't want to admit it. 0.99

02:09:56.000 Because he had an ego.

02:09:58.000 He had an ego.

02:09:58.000 And the guy, the way he got him to do it, he goes, look, you wouldn't be the first guy.

02:10:02.000 A lot of guys have done it.

02:10:02.000 That's right.

02:10:03.000 And he's like, oh, okay.

02:10:04.000 Yeah, he goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I actually, I did do that.

02:10:06.000 I did do that.

02:10:07.000 I did do that.

02:10:09.000 They got a guy, a high-level terrorist, who had never seen porn.

02:10:14.000 And they started showing him porn.

02:10:17.000 And it was like the carrot and the stick.

02:10:19.000 And he was like, you want to see more of this?

02:10:21.000 We'll show you more.

02:10:22.000 He's never seen porn?

02:10:23.000 And he started talking just to see it.

02:10:25.000 No, he came up in a very strict Islamic society. 0.99

02:10:28.000 So he showed him some dicks. 1.00

02:10:29.000 Fuck yeah, man. 1.00

02:10:30.000 He was like, oh, with these really hot girls? 1.00

02:10:34.000 So much excitement in my pants.

02:10:36.000 Let me tell you something, man.

02:10:37.000 Bella Donna and Asa Akira will get you talking if you haven't seen it. 1.00

02:10:40.000 Bella Donna will get you throwing up when she puts that baseball bat up her ass. 1.00

02:10:43.000 I can't do that. 1.00

02:10:44.000 Hey, don't talk badly about my girlfriend.

02:10:46.000 But if Asa, yeah, I'll freaking tell you whatever you want to know.

02:10:49.000 We had Asa on the podcast. 0.97

02:10:51.000 She was fucking great. 0.98

02:10:52.000 Asa Akira? 0.98

02:10:53.000 Yeah, she was cool.

02:10:53.000 Smart.

02:10:55.000 She's cool.

02:10:55.000 He went like this.

02:10:56.000 No, she was cool.

02:10:58.000 Yeah, no, she's great. 0.88

02:10:59.000 Smart girl. 0.99

02:10:59.000 I wouldn't go with fucking great. 0.99

02:11:00.000 Would you? 0.99

02:11:01.000 Great's intense.

02:11:02.000 Great's intense.

02:11:03.000 Great might be a little intense.

02:11:04.000 Too much of a big word.

02:11:05.000 Are you a little hyperbole there?

02:11:07.000 Never seen one of her porns.

02:11:08.000 How about that? 1.00

02:11:09.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:11:09.000 I haven't. 1.00

02:11:10.000 I'd admit if I hadn't.

02:11:12.000 I swear to God, I haven't.

02:11:13.000 I've never seen a...

02:11:14.000 Not one.

02:11:14.000 You've never seen her work?

02:11:15.000 Not a woman. 1.00

02:11:16.000 How dare you not do research before that episode?

02:11:18.000 Yeah.

02:11:18.000 Well, I know she does...

02:11:19.000 Because I went extensive. 1.00

02:11:20.000 Yeah, she does some heavy shit, too. 1.00

02:11:22.000 Oh, almost too much. 1.00

02:11:23.000 We're like, okay, well, that can't be fun.

02:11:25.000 Well, on my podcast, she said her skin was bad because she was taken, and her dermatologist said, I think you're taking in too much testosterone.

02:11:33.000 Too many loads?

02:11:34.000 Yeah.

02:11:34.000 Jesus Christ.

02:11:35.000 That's when you got a whore on your hands. 1.00

02:11:39.000 I'm ingesting. 1.00

02:11:41.000 Can you imagine if you take in so many loads that it changes your biological profile? 0.99

02:11:44.000 Can you imagine if you're just dating a girl and she's like, God, my fucking face keeps breaking out. 0.99

02:11:48.000 What's happening? 1.00

02:11:48.000 These fucking guys busting all over my face, man. 1.00

02:11:51.000 No, Busty, in her. 1.00

02:11:52.000 You're ingesting. 1.00

02:11:53.000 So much cum in her body. 1.00

02:11:55.000 Probably anally, a lot of it. 1.00

02:11:56.000 Yes, and...

02:11:57.000 Anally, orally.

02:11:59.000 All holes.

02:12:02.000 That doesn't make that noise when I'm coming, unless I'm farting, dude. 1.00

02:12:06.000 Yeah, I've never had that noise come out of my dick. 0.99

02:12:08.000 There's something hot about that, though, I thought. 0.99

02:12:10.000 I would agree with you.

02:12:11.000 With Asa?

02:12:12.000 I agree. 1.00

02:12:13.000 I like a turbo slut. 1.00

02:12:17.000 Always have, always will. 1.00

02:12:18.000 Me too. 0.99

02:12:19.000 Turbo slut. 1.00

02:12:19.000 Contact Asa and have her print up that shirt immediately. 1.00

02:12:21.000 Turbo slut. 1.00

02:12:22.000 I'm a turbo slut. 1.00

02:12:23.000 With glitter. 0.99

02:12:24.000 I'll make you a shirt, Asa.

02:12:25.000 Let me know.

02:12:26.000 I will sell them fighting the kid. 0.99

02:12:28.000 Hashtag turbo slut. 0.98

02:12:29.000 Why don't we make them? 0.99

02:12:29.000 I'll wear turbo slut. 0.99

02:12:31.000 Tough to market, my man. 0.98

02:12:32.000 No, it's not.

02:12:33.000 Not after this show.

02:12:34.000 Hey, wear this. 0.99

02:12:35.000 Hashtag turbo slut. 0.95

02:12:36.000 I guarantee you, if you guys put out a turbo slut shirt, it'll sell out. 1.00

02:12:40.000 Yeah.

02:12:40.000 Give it to guys.

02:12:41.000 Give it to the girls. 1.00

02:12:42.000 A limited edition for women. 1.00

02:12:43.000 You don't have the balls. 1.00

02:12:45.000 I say do it and you can fucking... 1.00

02:12:46.000 Limited edition? 0.99

02:12:47.000 Just make 20. They'll sell instantly.

02:12:49.000 Exactly.

02:12:49.000 20 of them.

02:12:50.000 Watch how many tweets we get now about Turbo Slut.

02:12:52.000 Hey, I want a Turbo Slut shirt. 0.73

02:12:54.000 They will!

02:12:54.000 Yes, I agree.

02:12:55.000 Turbo Slut's a great word. 1.00

02:12:57.000 Turbo Slut's funny. 1.00

02:12:58.000 Turbo Slash Slut, or is it just Turbo Slut? 1.00

02:13:00.000 No, just Turbo Slut. 1.00

02:13:01.000 It's a great designation.

02:13:02.000 Is it one word or two words?

02:13:03.000 Two words, I guess, right?

02:13:04.000 Yeah.

02:13:05.000 Turbo Slash? 0.69

02:13:06.000 Or you can just do hashtag Turbo Slut.

02:13:08.000 Yeah. 0.73

02:13:08.000 Hashtag Turbo Slut. 0.73

02:13:10.000 Turbo Slut. 1.00

02:13:11.000 That's going to, like, anything that happens in the news now, from now on, hashtag Turbo Slut. 0.99

02:13:14.000 Anytime a girl does something fucked up, it's going to be hashtag Turbo Slut. 1.00

02:13:19.000 A girl cheats on a man in the news, hashtag Turbo Slut. 0.99

02:13:22.000 Can work for guys, too, man.

02:13:24.000 Make that t-shirt. 0.97

02:13:26.000 Hashtag turbo slut. 0.97

02:13:27.000 I like it. 0.98

02:13:27.000 For girls, we don't have any women's tea. 0.98

02:13:30.000 Well, that's more of a guy's tea, I think. 0.99

02:13:32.000 Alright.

02:13:32.000 You'd think so?

02:13:33.000 Tanked up?

02:13:33.000 What girl's gonna wear it?

02:13:34.000 Ah, I'm a turbo slut. 1.00

02:13:35.000 Guys will buy it for their girl. 1.00

02:13:37.000 You don't think Asa would wear it?

02:13:38.000 Yeah.

02:13:39.000 Okay, we got one sale.

02:13:42.000 I'm in the market of making money.

02:13:44.000 Every girl in the suicide, those suicide girls, those girls would all wear it. 1.00

02:13:48.000 Hashtag turbo slut. 1.00

02:13:49.000 Come on, son. 1.00

02:13:49.000 I guarantee Whitney, just for shits and giggles, Whitney Cummins would wear it. 1.00

02:13:53.000 Whitney would not wear that shirt. 0.92

02:13:54.000 Yeah, it's a joke.

02:13:55.000 She's more of a feminist. 1.00

02:13:57.000 I'm telling you, Whitney would not wear that shirt. 0.98

02:13:59.000 That's why she'd wear it, because it's funny and silly. 0.78

02:14:00.000 Well, I disagree. 0.93

02:14:01.000 All right, I'm talking for her.

02:14:02.000 I don't know if it works like that, dude.

02:14:04.000 I don't know if it works like that. 0.99

02:14:05.000 Listen, man, I'll wear that fucking shirt. 0.99

02:14:06.000 How about we sell it on BrianKallen.com? 0.99

02:14:07.000 All right.

02:14:08.000 We'll figure it out.

02:14:08.000 No problem.

02:14:10.000 T-fat K. T-fat K.com.

02:14:13.000 I like our website.

02:14:14.000 T-fat K? Yeah.

02:14:15.000 Well, you guys have a great fucking show, I'll tell you that. 1.00

02:14:17.000 I love your podcast. 0.99

02:14:18.000 I'm so happy that you guys are doing it.

02:14:19.000 It's so cool to see so many people that have great podcasts now. 0.99

02:14:22.000 This is one of the best times ever for, like, listening to shit. 0.98

02:14:26.000 Dude, how about Maren had the President of the United States in his garage? 0.99

02:14:30.000 I know, isn't that crazy? 1.00

02:14:31.000 That's some shit, man. 1.00

02:14:32.000 That's so crazy. 1.00

02:14:33.000 I was, like, proud. 1.00

02:14:34.000 As a podcaster, I was like, fuck yeah, man. 0.98

02:14:36.000 It's really weird, right? 0.99

02:14:37.000 Yeah.

02:14:37.000 It's weird.

02:14:38.000 It's like, wow, these are weird, man.

02:14:42.000 That's an interview you prepare for.

02:14:44.000 You could tell he was nervous.

02:14:46.000 Well, how'd he not be?

02:14:47.000 No, I'm just saying.

02:14:48.000 Like, yeah, yeah, for sure.

02:14:49.000 It's in his garage.

02:14:50.000 Leader of the free world.

02:14:51.000 Yeah.

02:14:51.000 But he asked Obama, he said, you know, do you get nervous to do this stuff?

02:14:55.000 Obama basically was like, I'm in your garage.

02:14:57.000 I'm not that nervous.

02:14:59.000 LAUGHTER He's like, I've talked to bigger crowds.

02:15:02.000 He did a garage.

02:15:03.000 Obama did Between Two Ferns with Zach Galifianakis.

02:15:05.000 I was amazed.

02:15:06.000 He did?

02:15:06.000 And he was funny.

02:15:07.000 He did?

02:15:08.000 Yes, and he was really funny.

02:15:09.000 Wow.

02:15:10.000 Zach Galifianakis is awesome.

02:15:11.000 Yeah, Zach's always been the funniest person in the world.

02:15:13.000 Dude, you said on a recent podcast that you think Kevin Hart's the biggest comedian Ever.

02:15:17.000 All time.

02:15:18.000 Yeah, I think he's the biggest in the United States.

02:15:19.000 Bigger than Eddie Murphy.

02:15:21.000 Yeah.

02:15:21.000 Oh, definitely.

02:15:21.000 I love that guy.

02:15:22.000 Definitely.

02:15:22.000 He is.

02:15:22.000 He's bigger.

02:15:23.000 He's bigger.

02:15:23.000 He's bigger as far as what he could do, like arenas and stuff like that.

02:15:26.000 But Russell Peters is the biggest internationally.

02:15:29.000 So it's like Kevin Hart is the biggest in America, but Russell Peters sells out the O2 arena in London two nights in a row.

02:15:36.000 Yeah, and he's great.

02:15:37.000 And Russell's just a great guy.

02:15:38.000 Russell hosted last night at the Ice House in Pasadena.

02:15:41.000 That's how humble he is.

02:15:42.000 My show at the Ice House.

02:15:43.000 Yeah.

02:15:43.000 I called him up.

02:15:44.000 I asked him if you want to do it. 1.00

02:15:44.000 He goes, yeah, fuck yeah. 1.00

02:15:45.000 He goes, can I host? 1.00

02:15:46.000 I'm like, you can do whatever you want.

02:15:48.000 He's so humble. 1.00

02:15:48.000 You can fuck my wife. 1.00

02:15:49.000 You can take a shit on the stage. 1.00

02:15:50.000 You can do whatever you want, man. 1.00

02:15:52.000 You're Russell Peters.

02:15:53.000 He's truly humble, and he's such a funny dude.

02:15:55.000 He gave me this watch.

02:15:56.000 He gave me a Breitling.

02:15:57.000 Wow. 1.00

02:15:58.000 Damn, for what? 0.99

02:15:58.000 Russell, it's a $7,000 watch. 0.99

02:16:00.000 Russell, I want a watch.

02:16:01.000 Just give it to me.

02:16:02.000 He had it on.

02:16:03.000 I go, that's a sweet watch.

02:16:04.000 He goes, takes it off and he puts it on me.

02:16:05.000 I go, I can't take your watch. 1.00

02:16:07.000 And he goes, come on, take my fucking watch. 1.00

02:16:09.000 Damn. 1.00

02:16:09.000 He's the best. 1.00

02:16:09.000 Was he the coolest guy ever? 1.00

02:16:11.000 Yeah, he is.

02:16:11.000 He is one of the nicest human beings I've ever met in my life.

02:16:14.000 I've never met him.

02:16:14.000 He couldn't be more supportive of comics.

02:16:16.000 He's amazing.

02:16:17.000 Couldn't be more generous with, like, taking guys on the road with him.

02:16:20.000 Wow.

02:16:20.000 Promoting guys, helping guys out.

02:16:22.000 Everything about him is great.

02:16:23.000 And that's one of the reasons why he's so successful.

02:16:24.000 And loves the fight game.

02:16:25.000 Jiu-jitsu, boxing.

02:16:26.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:26.000 You think he's bigger than Kevin Hart.

02:16:28.000 Internationally, he is.

02:16:30.000 But Kevin Hart's bigger in the United States.

02:16:32.000 He's so big.

02:16:32.000 Kevin Hart is so talented for me.

02:16:35.000 He's one of those guys, I've worked with him twice, and he makes me laugh.

02:16:38.000 He's always making people laugh.

02:16:40.000 He's very, very funny.

02:16:41.000 Another generous guy.

02:16:42.000 Very generous and super motivated.

02:16:45.000 Crazy work.

02:16:45.000 I love his work ethic, right?

02:16:46.000 I love his work ethic.

02:16:47.000 I go to his Instagram. 0.99

02:16:48.000 He's always working out and doing all kinds of crazy shit. 0.94

02:16:51.000 He's got an Instagram once. 0.94

02:16:53.000 He's like in the trailer.

02:16:53.000 It's like 5 o'clock in the morning.

02:16:55.000 They've already been to the gym. 0.99

02:16:56.000 He fucking flew in from another state. 1.00

02:16:58.000 He did a concert last night in front of like fucking 30,000 people. 1.00

02:17:02.000 Now he's on the movie set. 0.99

02:17:03.000 All the other people in his trailer are falling asleep.

02:17:05.000 He's like, look around.

02:17:06.000 Look at my trainer.

02:17:07.000 My trainer's falling asleep.

02:17:10.000 This ain't a lifestyle for everybody. 1.00

02:17:11.000 He's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:17:13.000 He never stops and he never stops writing. 1.00

02:17:14.000 The one thing I see, especially with comedians, a lot of you guys, all you guys have crazy work ethics, I feel like.

02:17:19.000 If you have to be.

02:17:21.000 Especially this day and age, right?

02:17:22.000 To create new material all the time.

02:17:25.000 I'm going through that now.

02:17:25.000 You have to.

02:17:26.000 You have to constantly be on stage.

02:17:27.000 You have to constantly be writing.

02:17:29.000 You have to constantly be thinking.

02:17:30.000 Madison Square Garden sold out three shows, dude. 0.99

02:17:33.000 Get the fuck out of here, man. 0.99

02:17:35.000 He deserves it. 1.00

02:17:36.000 We're making history, people.

02:17:38.000 Madison Square Garden sold out three. 1.00

02:17:40.000 Look at the fucking audience down there. 1.00

02:17:42.000 Look at the audience there. 1.00

02:17:43.000 He's a comedic rock star.

02:17:44.000 Scroll down so you can see that better.

02:17:46.000 Scroll down.

02:17:47.000 Gold mic with a gold mic!

02:17:49.000 It won't let you scroll down anymore?

02:17:50.000 No? 0.99

02:17:51.000 Damn, look at that. 1.00

02:17:52.000 Oh, that's it? 1.00

02:17:52.000 That's the image? 1.00

02:17:53.000 It's insane.

02:17:54.000 He's got a gold mic?

02:17:55.000 Oh my god. 1.00

02:17:55.000 That's a gold mic, motherfucker. 1.00

02:17:57.000 He uses a gold microphone. 1.00

02:17:58.000 That's hilarious. 0.97

02:17:58.000 Damn right he does. 0.97

02:17:59.000 Why not? 0.96

02:17:59.000 Why wouldn't he? 0.96

02:18:00.000 Why not?

02:18:00.000 Why would you want a silver one?

02:18:02.000 He's such a generous person.

02:18:04.000 He's such a good guy.

02:18:05.000 Well, I told you I met him.

02:18:07.000 We was out with his kids and his girlfriend once.

02:18:09.000 I ran into him.

02:18:10.000 He was like, couldn't be friendlier.

02:18:11.000 I'd never met him before.

02:18:12.000 No.

02:18:13.000 But I met him.

02:18:13.000 He immediately gives me this giant hug.

02:18:15.000 He's super friendly.

02:18:16.000 He loves to play.

02:18:17.000 You know who could have been almost as big as him if certain things would have went his way?

02:18:20.000 Dave Chappelle. 0.98

02:18:21.000 Dave Chappelle at the time was fucking big, man. 0.99

02:18:23.000 He still could be. 0.99

02:18:24.000 He still could be if he wanted to.

02:18:25.000 Dave Chappelle's a different animal. 1.00

02:18:29.000 Dave Chappelle likes to show up with a fucking microphone and a speaker and do a show in a park. 1.00

02:18:34.000 He's been doing that since he was 17. Yeah. 0.99

02:18:36.000 He's a monster. 0.97

02:18:37.000 He's very, very, very, very funny, man. 0.99

02:18:40.000 Super talented.

02:18:41.000 Yeah, and he's still...

02:18:42.000 Remember when his show, the Chappelle show was huge, and then he just disappeared, right?

02:18:46.000 Because he didn't like the way things were going.

02:18:47.000 Well, they were trying to get him to listen to them and do the show their way, and they wanted him to stop saying the N-word. 0.99

02:18:55.000 There was all sorts of shit that was going on. 0.98

02:18:58.000 They had a big DVD deal on the table that was like $50 million. 0.99

02:19:02.000 Yep.

02:19:02.000 And he's like, you know what?

02:19:03.000 I'm going to do whatever I want to do. 1.00

02:19:05.000 So fuck off. 1.00

02:19:06.000 And just went to Africa. 1.00

02:19:07.000 You know?

02:19:08.000 I think both his parents are professors, aren't they?

02:19:10.000 I don't know.

02:19:11.000 But I know, you know, still to this day, he's doing great.

02:19:15.000 Oh, I'm sure.

02:19:16.000 But he's not the guy, like, he's not a Kevin Hart guy.

02:19:20.000 No.

02:19:20.000 He smokes cigarettes.

02:19:21.000 He believes in conspiracy theories.

02:19:23.000 Like, he works out a little bit, but he's not the kind of healthy that Kevin Hart is.

02:19:27.000 Kevin Hart is like, he's going to be like Oprah.

02:19:29.000 Yeah.

02:19:29.000 I watched Kevin Hart wrestle with Laurence Fishburne.

02:19:32.000 We shot this scene where he had to basically have a fight. 0.95

02:19:37.000 You want to talk about athletic and explosive, he might be 5'4", but we were all going, look at how fucking fast he moves! 0.60

02:19:44.000 And he was doing it comedically, under his legs, and Laurence is a big guy. 0.97

02:19:49.000 I was kind of taken aback with just how long he was able to keep that shit up, doing his own stunts, jumping through the air, diving through his legs. 0.98

02:19:56.000 He was very fit. 1.00

02:19:57.000 Fucking fit, man. 0.99

02:19:58.000 Well, he has videos he puts on Instagram of him working out every morning, and he does crazy shit like he climbs a rope onto a chin-up bar. 1.00

02:20:03.000 I wish he would ditch the workout gloves, though. 0.98

02:20:06.000 He's the little workout gloves.

02:20:07.000 But a lot of guys don't want to have calluses.

02:20:09.000 He has the pad when he squats, like, bro.

02:20:11.000 Oh, really?

02:20:12.000 Yeah, that's tough, man.

02:20:13.000 He's doing everything he can, though, you know?

02:20:14.000 He's not a pro athlete, bro.

02:20:15.000 You take it easy.

02:20:16.000 Just saying.

02:20:16.000 You don't use a bar on your big back?

02:20:19.000 A pad?

02:20:19.000 Did you say pad?

02:20:20.000 A bar.

02:20:21.000 I mean a pad.

02:20:21.000 A pad.

02:20:22.000 You don't use a pad on the bar?

02:20:23.000 Jesus Christ.

02:20:23.000 Never.

02:20:24.000 Really?

02:20:24.000 Son.

02:20:25.000 You put that fucking bar on your back and just squat down. 1.00

02:20:27.000 Can't do that, man. 1.00

02:20:28.000 There's etiquette.

02:20:29.000 Yeah, you just can't do that.

02:20:29.000 It's not loud.

02:20:30.000 Man the fuck up, Brian Callen. 0.97

02:20:31.000 Dude, I use chin-ups with gloves on. 0.99

02:20:34.000 Do you wear gloves when you do chin-ups?

02:20:34.000 I don't use chin-ups.

02:20:35.000 I don't use gloves.

02:20:36.000 I should, maybe, because I do a lot more.

02:20:40.000 A lot more, you guys.

02:20:42.000 I deadlift, though.

02:20:43.000 I deadlift without...

02:20:44.000 I don't use gloves when I deadlift either.

02:20:46.000 Did you spar yesterday?

02:20:48.000 Yes, I did.

02:20:49.000 Did you get hit in the head?

02:20:50.000 I was sparring somebody who wasn't...

02:20:52.000 You still get hit in the head?

02:20:54.000 Wasn't mobile?

02:20:54.000 I didn't get hit in the head.

02:20:55.000 You didn't get hit once?

02:20:56.000 No.

02:20:57.000 I have a hard time believing that.

02:20:58.000 I did spar Wayne the night before and Wayne did hit me in my face once with a good right. 0.66

02:21:02.000 So you sparred a guy so shitty he didn't land one shot? 0.70

02:21:04.000 What are you, Roy Jones Jr.? 1.00

02:21:06.000 What are you, a bully? 0.91

02:21:07.000 What are you, Travis Brown?

02:21:08.000 He probably is not the most athletic guy, that's correct, and so I did not get it.

02:21:12.000 Who are you sparring? 0.97

02:21:13.000 Some guy who's an accountant?

02:21:15.000 Wayne puts me in with different dudes. 0.99

02:21:19.000 Do you spar the shit guy from Million Dollar Baby? 0.91

02:21:22.000 I don't want to talk badly, and if you don't mind... 0.99

02:21:24.000 He didn't touch you?

02:21:26.000 No, he did not.

02:21:26.000 Can you keep your references on?

02:21:27.000 So next time you spar him, you need to say, hey, I'm going to go beat this guy.

02:21:30.000 I've been sparring with Wayne.

02:21:33.000 You're not sparring with Wayne.

02:21:34.000 I know that.

02:21:34.000 I'm just saying that he throws punches at me and I'm learning how to move.

02:21:39.000 Let's explain who Wayne is.

02:21:41.000 Wayne McCullough, multiple-time world boxing champion.

02:21:44.000 One of the great men.

02:21:45.000 One of my favorite people in the world.

02:21:47.000 And I train with him all the time because I get to train with him and he teaches me the way you're probably supposed to teach, which is he'll throw shots at me, not full, obviously, but you learn a little bit of how to move if you're working with a guy that good and then you go to a guy who's not good, you're going to be able to move a little better.

02:22:02.000 Did you see that he's involved in that semicolon thing where you get tattooed like a semicolon on your arm to let you know that like...

02:22:12.000 Life's not over.

02:22:13.000 There's more to go. 0.99

02:22:14.000 Where the fuck would we do this? 0.97

02:22:16.000 Anti-depression movement thing. 0.98

02:22:19.000 Well, he dealt with some stuff.

02:22:21.000 I don't know how vocal he is, but I know being a fighter and having 350 fights, maybe he had...

02:22:26.000 I don't want to speak out of turn, but I know he's been maybe involved in some of that stuff.

02:22:32.000 So they get these tattoos that say they beat depression?

02:22:34.000 A dot with a comma on it, you know, a semicolon, which indicates there's more to come in the sentence.

02:22:40.000 Like, you don't end a sentence with that.

02:22:41.000 There's more to come.

02:22:42.000 I haven't talked to him about that, but he's just one of those guys.

02:22:45.000 It's on his Instagram.

02:22:46.000 Okay. 0.99

02:22:47.000 He's one of those dudes I love being around because he's just such a humble motherfucker. 0.99

02:22:53.000 Such a nice guy. 0.99

02:22:54.000 And it's like, you're going to teach me, and he really, no matter when, where, he's always there, always present, and just such a fucking amazing guy. 0.94

02:23:02.000 Conor McGregor loves him.

02:23:03.000 Gave him a hug on his way to the octagon.

02:23:05.000 Oh, yeah.

02:23:05.000 How could he not?

02:23:06.000 He's a legend in Ireland.

02:23:07.000 Super legend.

02:23:08.000 It's like him and Barry McGuigan are the two biggest boxers from Ireland pretty much ever.

02:23:12.000 That's why I'm...

02:23:14.000 I'm always so flattered that I even get to train with someone like that.

02:23:18.000 Well, yeah, but you said spar with him.

02:23:19.000 Well, what I'm saying is that he'll move around and punch me.

02:23:21.000 Yeah, he'll punch me in the face if I don't have my hands up.

02:23:23.000 But we do spar.

02:23:24.000 He puts on headgear, and he's not opening up on me.

02:23:30.000 He's not trying to kill you, but he does hit you a little bit.

02:23:32.000 No, but you learn, and when you do that with someone like that, and then you go with somebody who's not...

02:23:37.000 Close to that, you can get out of the way.

02:23:38.000 Do you have any concern whatsoever about getting punched in the head?

02:23:41.000 No, because I'm not getting punched that much.

02:23:44.000 See, that's the problem, but even when Wayne hits you, that counts, my man.

02:23:48.000 It's worth it to me.

02:23:50.000 It's worth it.

02:23:50.000 Yeah, I love boxing, and I love the feeling.

02:23:53.000 You know who spars a lot?

02:23:54.000 Louis C.K. Really?

02:23:56.000 Yeah, we had a conversation about it.

02:23:57.000 He goes, I love it.

02:23:58.000 I just love it.

02:23:58.000 What?

02:23:58.000 I love doing it.

02:23:59.000 Yeah.

02:23:59.000 But guys who love it also may not be getting, again, like it's one thing to get really hit.

02:24:05.000 If you get even a good jab and you got a big headache, and that's what I avoid.

02:24:09.000 Because if you're fighting like Rocky at the gym, who fights a lot now, that kick can really hit.

02:24:13.000 Well, for me, he's 185 pounds and he can punch.

02:24:17.000 I asked Louie about it and he was like the thrill.

02:24:19.000 He loves the thrill.

02:24:20.000 Loves the thrill of sparring.

02:24:21.000 I just don't get it.

02:24:22.000 If you're making money off your brain, I don't get why you would do it.

02:24:25.000 It's just the language you're learning.

02:24:27.000 It's really hard to do.

02:24:28.000 It hasn't been a detriment yet.

02:24:31.000 And so he's willing to take the chance for the thrill.

02:24:33.000 I like it because it's so hard.

02:24:34.000 I like it because it's close to impossible to be good at it.

02:24:37.000 For some people, the feeling of being alive and taking any kind of risk and problem solving in a very scary...

02:24:43.000 I get it.

02:24:44.000 You know what I mean?

02:24:45.000 That's for me what it is.

02:24:46.000 Problem solving and learning patterns and seeing it actually work sometimes.

02:24:50.000 It charges you up. 0.98

02:24:51.000 It makes you excited about doing other shit because of that. 0.97

02:24:54.000 For a lot of people... 0.99

02:24:56.000 I get it.

02:24:56.000 For you it's different because like you were first of all at the highest level there is professional UFC and you're sparring with guys like Shane Carwin which is not even a little bit fun, right?

02:25:06.000 I can't even imagine that.

02:25:08.000 I can't imagine.

02:25:08.000 You couldn't pay me to go to a boxing gym right now.

02:25:10.000 I'll do jiu-jitsu, but if you said hey Brendan come down here and let's box.

02:25:14.000 Shout out to Box and Burn though.

02:25:16.000 Number one gym in California according to Men's Fitness Tony Jeffries and Wayne McCulloch down there.

02:25:21.000 If you guys want to learn boxing It's a great place to work out. 0.99

02:25:25.000 Hey, let's wrap this up because I've got to get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:25:28.000 So, big fucking fight this weekend. 0.99

02:25:30.000 Huge fights. 1.00

02:25:31.000 It'll be fun.

02:25:31.000 Come see me in Denver.

02:25:32.000 Your pick.

02:25:33.000 What happens?

02:25:36.000 On the main event?

02:25:37.000 Mendes McGregor.

02:25:38.000 Come on, son.

02:25:39.000 If I'm betting money, I'm taking Mendes.

02:25:41.000 My heart says Connor. 1.00

02:25:42.000 Damn. 0.99

02:25:42.000 Brian Callen? 0.99

02:25:43.000 I got Connor McGregor.

02:25:45.000 Really?

02:25:45.000 I do.

02:25:46.000 I think he hits harder than people know and realize.

02:25:50.000 I think he's going to connect.

02:25:51.000 I think he's going to connect.

02:25:52.000 I think he's bigger.

02:25:53.000 It's a different kind of fighter for Chad Mendes.

02:25:55.000 I think he's going to...

02:25:56.000 I hope you're right.

02:25:58.000 We actually have a bet on it.

02:25:59.000 T-shirt sales of July.

02:26:01.000 That's right.

02:26:01.000 The whole month of T-shirt sales?

02:26:03.000 That's right.

02:26:03.000 That's no pun.

02:26:04.000 That's the month I'm going to start Instagramming it.

02:26:09.000 Someone's going to win, baby.

02:26:11.000 We don't drop Turbo Slut until August.

02:26:13.000 Just promise me that.

02:26:14.000 Come on, man.

02:26:16.000 That was my idea.

02:26:17.000 All of a sudden, Turbo Slut's going to be a big seller.

02:26:18.000 See?

02:26:19.000 Exactly.

02:26:19.000 Before, the conversation was, Turbo Slut's really not worth doing.

02:26:23.000 Now we're like, what?

02:26:24.000 Hashtag Turbo Slut.

02:26:25.000 It's going to be good.

02:26:25.000 But that is a shirt.

02:26:27.000 Hashtag Turbo Slut.

02:26:28.000 I think that will sell.

02:26:29.000 Me too.

02:26:29.000 Simple.

02:26:30.000 Keep it simple.

02:26:31.000 The one I'm excited about is I have a Never Grow Up, and it's Peter Pan that looks like Brian Callen.

02:26:36.000 It's just fighting the kid on the back.

02:26:37.000 I like that.

02:26:38.000 I like that.

02:26:38.000 And then we have a big brown Master Kim T dropping.

02:26:41.000 No, no.

02:26:42.000 Big Brown Bear.

02:26:43.000 Big Brown Bear.

02:26:44.000 Based on our song.

02:26:45.000 Did you...

02:26:46.000 Who do you have in this fight, can you say?

02:26:49.000 I would say if I really had an inclination.

02:26:52.000 Okay.

02:26:52.000 I don't know.

02:26:53.000 What about Rory Robbie?

02:26:55.000 How bad does that fight get overlooked since Conor?

02:26:58.000 Very bad.

02:26:59.000 It's crazy.

02:26:59.000 It's really a shame because I love that fight.

02:27:02.000 Just as good a fight.

02:27:02.000 They're going to get a piece of the pay-per-view, so they're going to benefit anyway.

02:27:05.000 But I think that Rory McDonald and Robbie Lawler is a very fucking tough fight to call. 0.79

02:27:09.000 We talked about it. 0.99

02:27:10.000 I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. 0.99

02:27:11.000 And I don't know what the fuck's going to happen in the main event either. 0.99

02:27:13.000 I don't have an opinion. 0.96

02:27:14.000 I don't either.

02:27:15.000 That's why this is so exciting.

02:27:17.000 I don't either.

02:27:17.000 But I know that's the biggest challenge Conor's ever faced.

02:27:20.000 Hands down.

02:27:20.000 But that's what we were saying before he fought Poirier.

02:27:22.000 And he knocked out Poirier in the first round.

02:27:24.000 And then does this.

02:27:26.000 I love Poirier, but Mendez is a far cry from Poirier.

02:27:29.000 Are we doing another Fight Companion on Saturday?

02:27:33.000 That's right.

02:27:34.000 You guys are going to do a Fight Companion without me in my studio.

02:27:37.000 I'm nervous, Joe Rogan!

02:27:38.000 Very exciting.

02:27:39.000 I'm excited.

02:27:40.000 I like it.

02:27:41.000 Our first one without the man.

02:27:42.000 Is Eddie Bravo going to do it?

02:27:44.000 He's supposed to get back to me.

02:27:46.000 I said, hey man, we're going to do a companion.

02:27:48.000 He goes, without Rogan?

02:27:49.000 That's crazy.

02:27:50.000 I went, if you're scared, I get it.

02:27:54.000 Fighter and the Kid, what is the website?

02:27:56.000 Yeah, tfatk.com.

02:27:58.000 T-F-A-T-K dot com. 1.00

02:28:02.000 Thefighterandthekid.com.

02:28:03.000 Fighter and the Kid on iTunes.

02:28:04.000 Brian Callen on Twitter with a Y. Come see me in Denver next weekend, July 16th, 17th, 18th at Comedy Works downtown.

02:28:11.000 He's with me in Chicago at the Chicago Theater.

02:28:14.000 Good googly moogly Chicago.

02:28:17.000 Brendan Schaub on Twitter and Instagram as well. 1.00

02:28:21.000 All right, you fucks. 1.00

02:28:21.000 We love the fuck out of you. 1.00

02:28:22.000 And we'll see you soon.

02:28:23.000 Much love, everybody.

02:28:25.000 Oh, that's good.

The Joe Rogan Experience - July 09, 2015

Joe Rogan Experience #671 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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