The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #705 - Tait Fletcher

00:00:00.000 Who's the real captain?

00:00:01.000 Live!

00:00:02.000 We're live.

00:00:02.000 Who is the real captain, man?

00:00:04.000 We're talking about the new Star Trek versus the old Star Trek. 0.99

00:00:07.000 This is shit grown men do in their spare time. 1.00

00:00:11.000 Take motherfucking Fletcher! 1.00

00:00:13.000 Is that Echo in New Mexico? 0.99

00:00:15.000 Yes, my Nuevo shirt.

00:00:18.000 Ah, Nuevo Cerveza.

00:00:20.000 You know, New Mexico might be the only shape of a state that sort of makes sense. 0.99

00:00:25.000 It's fucking square. 0.99

00:00:26.000 Basically square. 0.99

00:00:27.000 It's like square, but it looks like on the bottom, some dudes just had some miscommunication. 0.99

00:00:33.000 Like, fucking dude, you're supposed to be over here! 0.99

00:00:35.000 That's Mexico had the miscommunication. 1.00

00:00:37.000 Oh, the line.

00:00:38.000 I just want that good part.

00:00:40.000 Mexico wanted, like, there must have been a cool elk hunting spot.

00:00:43.000 Probably.

00:00:44.000 Yeah.

00:00:44.000 And New Mexico's like, yo, we need this little area, this little block off in that corner.

00:00:52.000 New Mexico's like one of the premier elk hunting spots in the country.

00:00:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:58.000 Different, like when I was a kid in Michigan, we would hunt, and maybe, I don't know, when I was like 12 or something, stuff changed, because elk used to be not hunted, and then they opened up a season on them. 0.57

00:01:10.000 So fucking elk, you could walk up to a herd. 0.96

00:01:13.000 Of a hundred deep. 1.00

00:01:14.000 And I remember there'd be sentries, they would post young bull elks all around the perimeter.

00:01:21.000 Really? 0.99

00:01:22.000 It was fucking wild, dude. 0.99

00:01:23.000 They were almost tame. 0.99

00:01:24.000 And then the year after they opened up permits, as skittish as white-tailed deer.

00:01:29.000 It was really crazy.

00:01:30.000 One of the best hunting experiences I had there.

00:01:34.000 I was in like a pit blind with a bow and there were a bunch of doe at a feed pile and then I was in this big rye field and I hear like come through the woods and then another and these elk met.

00:01:49.000 Two bulls.

00:01:50.000 And they started smashing horns. 0.99

00:01:51.000 And I was fucking blown away. 1.00

00:01:54.000 The deer didn't give a shit. 1.00

00:01:56.000 They're like, just eating whatever. 0.99

00:01:57.000 Not even our species.

00:01:58.000 We're good.

00:01:59.000 And it was awesome, man.

00:02:02.000 I love growing up.

00:02:03.000 The woods are rad, man.

00:02:04.000 It's so cool that you got into hunting.

00:02:06.000 And you're deep, deep, deep in it.

00:02:08.000 I'm too deep.

00:02:09.000 There's nothing better than that.

00:02:10.000 I'm obsessed.

00:02:11.000 But the elk thing is so strange.

00:02:13.000 The noises they make.

00:02:15.000 When we were hunting in Colorado, when the females see you, they bark. 0.65

00:02:19.000 It's awesome.

00:02:20.000 Like, they let everybody know.

00:02:22.000 They let everybody know.

00:02:23.000 It's so open, there's all that huge tracking.

00:02:25.000 Like, you've got to be an athlete.

00:02:26.000 New Mexico and Colorado, it's a different kind of hunt.

00:02:30.000 Well, Colorado, where we were, was in the mountains.

00:02:32.000 It was all trees and stuff, and it was all about hiding behind trees and bringing them to you.

00:02:37.000 And being on a run or something, yeah.

00:02:39.000 Yeah, trying to be near where they are.

00:02:41.000 And since it's the rut, you're trying to make noises, you know, like cow calls, or you're trying to bring them in, or you're trying to sneak up on them.

00:02:48.000 You put dope piss all over you, and you're like, yeah. 0.99

00:02:51.000 Is that the new shit? 1.00

00:02:52.000 Okay. 1.00

00:02:53.000 I was listening to this podcast.

00:02:56.000 It's a TED Talk podcast, and I don't know if you've ever seen that video, but there's a video that got around.

00:03:02.000 About when they reintroduced wolves to Yellowstone Park.

00:03:05.000 But you can't hunt in Yellowstone Park.

00:03:08.000 So the animals in Yellowstone Park are the same way that you were talking about those elk.

00:03:12.000 Elk are the same way.

00:03:13.000 Like, they somehow or another know that people are not going to hunt them.

00:03:17.000 That's the weird thing about it and how it changed.

00:03:20.000 Like, in one season, I'm like...

00:03:22.000 How are they all symbiotic in this way where they all communicate?

00:03:26.000 Because none of them had been hunted. 0.99

00:03:28.000 It's like all of a sudden, all the fucking elk knew, though. 0.99

00:03:31.000 It's wild. 0.99

00:03:32.000 You know what it's like, I think?

00:03:35.000 Is there something wrong?

00:03:37.000 You know what it's like?

00:03:38.000 You know how you see birds when they fly in those big...

00:03:43.000 Or Schools of Fish.

00:03:44.000 Yeah, Schools of Fish.

00:03:45.000 And they all turn on a dime.

00:03:46.000 The flocks just know where everybody's going.

00:03:49.000 It's weird.

00:03:50.000 There's some sort of strange communication.

00:03:53.000 There's a telepathy, I think.

00:03:54.000 And I think that...

00:03:55.000 You read that book, The Rise of Superman?

00:03:57.000 No, I haven't.

00:03:58.000 I heard it's awesome, though.

00:03:59.000 Awesome.

00:03:59.000 And they talk about...

00:04:01.000 I think the movie was Transformers, that all these dudes in wingsuits went off the...

00:04:05.000 Is it the Sears Tower in Chicago?

00:04:08.000 Yeah.

00:04:08.000 And making almost 90-degree banks and stuff.

00:04:12.000 And there are four of them, and they're following each other.

00:04:14.000 And if one guy goes...

00:04:16.000 After I see you move, I'm too late.

00:04:19.000 I have to move as you're moving, or else I ruin the airflow and all that, and then I hit the building.

00:04:24.000 And so these guys practice in the Alps, but they talked about that, that you need to be in that flow state, and that you start to work with each other in a way that is supernatural.

00:04:35.000 Which is crazy, because I felt that flow state as a singular person in Different events in my life, but that kind of thing where they're working in tandem with each other and they're all talking to each other, and I think that's the way that fish move.

00:04:49.000 That's the way, what is it that gives a frog the sense to jump off the lily pad right as the hawk is diving before the hawk's moved or whatever.

00:04:57.000 All those fish, it's not like one turns and then the rest follows.

00:05:00.000 They all move uniformly.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, the schools of fish and the flocks of birds are so magical.

00:05:06.000 When you watch them dance in the sky, those giant flocks of birds.

00:05:10.000 How are they not just slamming heads?

00:05:12.000 What is going on there?

00:05:15.000 And then the hawks, the birds of prey are so different than that.

00:05:19.000 No flocks of them.

00:05:20.000 That meat is a different kind of thing.

00:05:22.000 It does something to people or animals.

00:05:25.000 Yeah, those seed-eating birds are the ones that can kind of do that.

00:05:28.000 They're like, we really need each other.

00:05:29.000 The ones that are meat-eaters are like, I'm good.

00:05:32.000 This same TED Talk, this guy was talking about how humans, it was a different guy, same podcast though, was talking about how humans interrupt the natural symphony of nature.

00:05:44.000 And that this symphony, there's a frequency that all these different animals operate at.

00:05:50.000 There's like a frog has a niche in this frequency, and a bird has a niche in this frequency.

00:05:55.000 And they were talking about how when frogs, when you have a whole swamp filled with frogs...

00:06:02.000 It scares off predators.

00:06:04.000 Well, what it also does, it makes it impossible to locate them, because there's so much sound coming from so many different places, you can't find them.

00:06:12.000 They have these low-flying jets in this area, because this is a place where they practice, where pilots practice, fighter pilots.

00:06:20.000 And so they fly these jets like 600 meters above the ground, which is pretty low.

00:06:26.000 And they go, sheesh! 0.98

00:06:27.000 They're fucking supersonic speeds. 0.99

00:06:29.000 They're fucking just going crazy over the swamp. 0.99

00:06:32.000 And the disruption of sound is so intense that everything stops for a while. 0.98

00:06:39.000 And then slowly these frogs start to re-synchronize.

00:06:43.000 So like one will rid it, one will rid it, and then they'll try to find each other and get into that rhythm again.

00:06:48.000 But when that happens, when they're trying to find that rhythm, that's when all the hawks, all the owls, and all the coyotes know exactly when to move in.

00:06:58.000 So they move in then, and they start picking apart all these frogs.

00:07:02.000 They find the frogs and they eat them.

00:07:04.000 It's really interesting, like they know that there's like a disruption in the frequency.

00:07:09.000 And I wonder how the, like, so are those predation animals working on a different frequency than the frogs then?

00:07:15.000 Or like, they're opportunists in this way where they're like, this is a time, you know?

00:07:19.000 Yeah, they must be opportunists.

00:07:21.000 I think, I mean, I think the whole idea of, the way he was describing it, the way the frogs do it, where you know how like you're in the swamp or something like that and you hear frogs? 0.99

00:07:31.000 You don't know where the fuck they are. 0.99

00:07:32.000 There's so many of them. 0.99

00:07:33.000 Or even sometimes what it is. 0.99

00:07:35.000 Like they sound fucking crazy. 0.99

00:07:37.000 Yeah, there's so many of them. 0.99

00:07:38.000 And so when they have to kind of find each other, because their sound is so intense when the jet flies over, everybody stops what they're doing.

00:07:47.000 And so they're like, are we doing this?

00:07:49.000 Are we doing this?

00:07:50.000 Are we doing this?

00:07:51.000 Let's do it!

00:07:52.000 How long does it take them to recalibrate?

00:07:53.000 It wasn't long.

00:07:55.000 It was only a few minutes.

00:07:56.000 It was like, I think...

00:07:57.000 I want to say 15 minutes, but I might be mistaken.

00:08:00.000 But it was less than an hour. 0.99

00:08:01.000 And in that time, they're trying to get their shit back together again, and they just get jacked. 0.99

00:08:07.000 That's the thing about us humans being the disruption. 0.98

00:08:13.000 I read something somewhere, I heard a podcast where they're like, There's a kid or somebody that developed a bacteria or some kind of biome that will eat plastic and maybe take care of the big island of plastic.

00:08:29.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:30.000 And I started thinking about that. 1.00

00:08:32.000 I'm like, we're fucking idiots. 1.00

00:08:34.000 Like, we created plastic. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Like, that was our solution then, too.

00:08:38.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:39.000 It's like, we put...

00:08:41.000 Nuclear reactors on the biggest fault line in the world where it's the most active.

00:08:47.000 Like, that's how smart we are.

00:08:49.000 And, like, what do you do when you create a bacteria or something that will eat plastic?

00:08:53.000 What happens when all the plastic's gone?

00:08:54.000 Like, is that like, you know, is that like the introducing, oh, we've got a rabbit problem in Australia.

00:08:59.000 Let's get a fox. 0.53

00:09:00.000 And then we've got a fox problem.

00:09:01.000 You know, it's like...

00:09:02.000 That's Australia. 0.99

00:09:03.000 Australia's crazy.

00:09:04.000 My buddy Adam lives there. 0.84

00:09:06.000 We don't learn from anything.

00:09:07.000 We're the most adaptable creature, and we're like, let's go ahead and get some...

00:09:09.000 We've got a desert.

00:09:11.000 Get the golf courses out here.

00:09:12.000 Let's go ahead and do that.

00:09:13.000 Well, that was what was interesting about this TED podcast, is this same guy who was talking about the wolves, who's done that video about the wolves in Yellowstone.

00:09:21.000 It's really interesting, because he's got...

00:09:22.000 He's got an English accent, and he's very enthusiastic about the wolves in Yellowstone, and amazing things have happened.

00:09:30.000 This guy's crazy, though, because he didn't just want to bring wolves back to Yellowstone.

00:09:36.000 Now he's talking about bringing megafauna to England.

00:09:40.000 See, they did these studies where they dug deep into the ground, and they found fossilized remains from 10,000-plus years ago of lions. 0.99

00:09:51.000 And elephants, this crazy fucker, is talking about reintroducing lions to England. 0.99

00:09:57.000 We need that. 0.99

00:09:58.000 But what's interesting about this cat is that he admitted that all this fascination with wolves and everything came out of a midlife crisis.

00:10:08.000 He's like, he went into a midlife crisis, and then his solution was to get... 0.97

00:10:14.000 I'm a little bit of a pussy, and now my spirit animal is a wolf. 1.00

00:10:16.000 Yes, exactly! 1.00

00:10:18.000 Exactly!

00:10:19.000 So this dude got like really super into wolves and super into the idea of what he calls rewilding.

00:10:28.000 But the thing is, like he was talking about how megafauna used to live in England and that human predation and all that stuff wiped them out.

00:10:37.000 But that hasn't been proven.

00:10:39.000 They don't know that for a fact.

00:10:41.000 It is entirely possible that the climate was just not the best climate for them, and then also natural disasters.

00:10:48.000 And then also the absolute fact that 90 plus percent of everything that has ever lived ever is extinct.

00:10:54.000 Right.

00:10:55.000 So this guy's idea of reintroducing...

00:10:58.000 We don't want to let anything die.

00:10:58.000 Don't want to kill nothing.

00:10:59.000 Don't want to let nothing die. 1.00

00:11:00.000 We are the ultimate pussy, arrogant fuckers that are building golf courses in deserts. 1.00

00:11:04.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:11:05.000 Well, the wolf thing is so fascinating.

00:11:06.000 Okay, so there's both sides of that.

00:11:08.000 I've heard both like, it's awesome that we have wolves again there, and then I've heard people are like, this is really the decimation of an environment.

00:11:14.000 Like, this changed the environment and the topographical makeup of Yellowstone so much that we're retarding growth in a lot of ways.

00:11:25.000 I mean, anytime you're ready to do something, there's an alteration, but is it for the good or the bad?

00:11:29.000 Well, it's good for some species.

00:11:30.000 It's really good for some birds.

00:11:33.000 It's really good for a lot of different kinds of plants and trees.

00:11:37.000 It's really good for trees because Yellowstone had such a huge population of deer and elk.

00:11:42.000 And bison and all these different animals, they were just eating the shit out of all the grass, and the trees got thicker, and they grew taller.

00:11:51.000 Like, within six years, they grew much, much taller.

00:11:54.000 It's part of the TED talk this guy gave.

00:11:56.000 And the root system got stronger.

00:11:59.000 Because the root system got stronger, the path of the rivers was...

00:12:03.000 Changed.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, it changed, and it was...

00:12:05.000 It's crazy.

00:12:06.000 It's really, really intense.

00:12:08.000 So it is good for some animal.

00:12:10.000 It's not good for the elk and for the deer.

00:12:13.000 But did they take those anyway?

00:12:15.000 Would rangers go out and be like, we need to take 50 deer out this year?

00:12:18.000 Or like, there's no hunting?

00:12:19.000 I don't think there's any hunting, but they do in certain circumstances, in places where there's no hunting, they will bring in people to kill the population if it gets too high.

00:12:28.000 And handpick what...

00:12:29.000 Yeah.

00:12:29.000 But the solution to that is allow hunters to go into Yellowstone.

00:12:34.000 But the problem with that, of course, is that Yellowstone's a national park and people are out there hiking and shit. 0.99

00:12:38.000 You don't want yahoos out there shooting guns. 1.00

00:12:40.000 That's why I think you'd just have rangers and you'd be like, this section is closed and make sure there's no campers go through it, all that.

00:12:45.000 Yeah.

00:12:45.000 It's hard, though.

00:12:46.000 Pick your animal.

00:12:47.000 You think about how many animals an animal can give birth to, and if there's no wolves.

00:12:53.000 That's the other thing about hunting.

00:12:55.000 One of the things you realize is how much woods there really are.

00:12:59.000 How deep the...

00:13:00.000 Everyone's talking about...

00:13:02.000 The human beings have absolutely taken over big parts of this country. 0.64

00:13:08.000 Southern California, I mean you go around the Los Angeles area, like the wildlife that used to be here has all been pushed out.

00:13:14.000 But there's still areas that are insanely wild and Yellowstone is one of them.

00:13:18.000 I mean there's a lot of wilderness out there.

00:13:20.000 When I fly from here to New Mexico, it's like...

00:13:22.000 Fly over New Mexico and tell me, like, there's just no land anymore. 0.96

00:13:25.000 It's like there's fucking no people living anywhere in most of that state. 0.92

00:13:29.000 Like, it's just that it's not something happening. 0.99

00:13:31.000 And there's a fucking mountain lion that stalked and hunted one of my friends in Hollywood, in the Hollywood Hills. 0.99

00:13:40.000 She was at a party for, like, Fourth of July or something. 0.99

00:13:43.000 Parked her car in a little cul-de-sac house that people are gone on vacation, some really rich folks up in the hills. 0.99

00:13:49.000 She walks down and she and two friends and fucking... 1.00

00:13:53.000 And there's a fucking mountain lion that's there. 1.00

00:13:56.000 They're in a cul-de-sac. 1.00

00:13:57.000 The mountain lion's here and there's nowhere to go.

00:13:59.000 There's a fence into the... 1.00

00:14:00.000 Fucking crazy story. 0.99

00:14:02.000 So anyway, she ends up... 0.99

00:14:04.000 Yelling at it, scaring at it, jumping on top of this Audi or some car that was there, that was parked there, screaming at it, and then that stopped it from advancing, but still, I was like, what sounds did it make?

00:14:15.000 And she's like, oh, it was like a beast from a movie. 0.93

00:14:18.000 It was crazy, just talking to her.

00:14:22.000 But you would think that if that was the case, it might have been cornered.

00:14:25.000 But it wasn't.

00:14:27.000 It was cornering them.

00:14:28.000 Yeah, but why would it corner them and just growl at them?

00:14:30.000 I don't know.

00:14:31.000 Like a big cat would be stealthy.

00:14:33.000 No idea.

00:14:34.000 But made itself known.

00:14:35.000 She jumped the fence. 0.56

00:14:37.000 Tried to break the windows of the house.

00:14:38.000 Whoa.

00:14:39.000 Got a 911 call out.

00:14:41.000 It was sketchy service.

00:14:42.000 Thanks a lot, AT&T. And, uh...

00:14:46.000 So I switched to Verizon.

00:14:48.000 AT&T, they're just not reliable.

00:14:49.000 Mountain lions hunting friends.

00:14:51.000 They're like, when I want to switch it to, they go, well, were you using your phone in a high traffic zone?

00:14:57.000 I'm like, a high traffic zone?

00:14:58.000 I'm like, are you just telling me you oversold your system and that I can only call at certain times? 1.00

00:15:02.000 Because you charge me every minute of the fucking day. 0.99

00:15:05.000 Anyway, I digress. 0.99

00:15:08.000 And then the phone call dropped.

00:15:09.000 It was awesome.

00:15:10.000 I was in the Verizon store.

00:15:11.000 The phone call dropped?

00:15:12.000 To the AT&T guy.

00:15:13.000 While you were in the Verizon store?

00:15:15.000 That's adorable.

00:15:16.000 And the AT&T guy goes, no, my battery went dead. 1.00

00:15:19.000 I'm like, motherfucker, you're a tech geek. 1.00

00:15:22.000 You know your shit is bunk. 1.00

00:15:23.000 You know on the street your friends laugh. 1.00

00:15:24.000 They're like, oh, you sling that AT&T shit. 1.00

00:15:26.000 You know that shit. 1.00

00:15:27.000 Fuck off. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Come on. 1.00

00:15:28.000 Just tell me it's funny. 1.00

00:15:30.000 You know it's funny.

00:15:30.000 He's like, no, I don't understand what you mean, sir.

00:15:32.000 I'm like, I can't even talk to you.

00:15:33.000 That's baby powder cut cocaine, son.

00:15:35.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

00:15:35.000 Stop all that. 0.77

00:15:37.000 Stop all that shit. 1.00

00:15:38.000 Anyway, the lion was tagged. 1.00

00:15:40.000 Oh, yeah. 0.78

00:15:41.000 And so that's why she didn't get charged with, like, an attempted breaking and entering and all this shit from the security cameras on the people's house. 0.70

00:15:45.000 Because they knew where the lion was. 0.99

00:15:46.000 Because they're like, yeah, the lion fucking was down. 0.95

00:15:48.000 And I'm like, so you got tagged lions that are in high-density population, like, right in downtown Hollywood. 0.99

00:15:54.000 Yeah, we're super, super arrogant about mountain lions.

00:15:57.000 Oh, man.

00:15:57.000 In California, you can't hunt mountain lions.

00:15:59.000 They're not hunted.

00:16:00.000 Right.

00:16:00.000 So because of that, their population has skyrocketed.

00:16:03.000 And this place that I'm going to, the Tohono Ranch, There's one waterhole that they have where they took pictures of sixteen different mountain lions.

00:16:10.000 I mean, they have a massive population of animals up there because it's 270,000 acres.

00:16:15.000 Whose ranch is it?

00:16:16.000 It's privately owned.

00:16:18.000 Privately owned giant ranch and it's just huge.

00:16:22.000 There's nothing going on up there other than hunting and some, you know, I think they have a water pipeline goes through it and a bunch of other ways they make money off the ranch, but it's not like there's a lot of people there.

00:16:35.000 It's very, very few people go in and out of the ranch. 0.98

00:16:39.000 So these fucking cats are the run of the land, and there's elk up there, and there's deer up there, and there's a lot of pigs up there, and they just party. 0.99

00:16:46.000 I want to put GoPros on them all. 1.00

00:16:48.000 Like fucking stalk it, like be badass. 0.97

00:16:52.000 Why do I think someone did something like that recently? 0.99

00:16:54.000 They put a GoPro on something. 0.99

00:16:56.000 Those park rangers, they're not fulfilling their fucking need. 0.99

00:16:59.000 If they're not... 0.99

00:17:00.000 Dart those things, put GoPros on them, and let's watch. 0.84

00:17:03.000 Well, how long will the battery last, though?

00:17:04.000 I don't know, man.

00:17:05.000 They need to get Tesla in there. 1.00

00:17:06.000 Figure it out.

00:17:07.000 Let's go, Elon.

00:17:09.000 Do something for this world.

00:17:10.000 You've got a battery that'll never fucking disintegrate and that we're going to keep around forever that's polluting the environment for sure, but you can't get that on a mountain lion?

00:17:18.000 Come on. 0.95

00:17:19.000 Use it for my entertainment at least.

00:17:22.000 Serious.

00:17:23.000 I think that there's going to be, in the future, there's going to be batteries that just don't run out of juice.

00:17:28.000 Like, we're going to look back 100 years from now, they're going to laugh at us. 0.99

00:17:32.000 Piles of batteries and landfills and shit. 0.98

00:17:34.000 Hopefully we get to the place where we can be laughed at. 0.98

00:17:37.000 Hopefully, if we make it, right?

00:17:38.000 I mean, that's the thing, is I think we get just smart enough, I mean, you say it all the time, just smart enough to where we can go ahead and have our own destruction because of our progress, because we won't stop progress.

00:17:49.000 It's like, it's a weird thing. 0.94

00:17:51.000 It's like that thing I think Duncan was talking about, that Elon Musk put $10 million towards, like, This is going to guard us in the future against the rise of the machines type shit. 0.96

00:17:59.000 Well, yeah. 0.98

00:17:59.000 He wanted to stop artificial intelligence. 0.98

00:18:01.000 Well, he wants to protect us or at least analyze artificial intelligence.

00:18:05.000 That's the thing.

00:18:07.000 Show me where progress got halted.

00:18:10.000 It's like progress.

00:18:11.000 It's like a weed.

00:18:13.000 You can't stop us.

00:18:14.000 My hope about progress is they figure out a way to make no residue.

00:18:20.000 No footprint?

00:18:23.000 There's no waste.

00:18:24.000 Right now, we create pollution, right?

00:18:28.000 But we had that.

00:18:29.000 How did we have that? 1.00

00:18:30.000 Did you ever read that goddamn book? 1.00

00:18:35.000 About food. 1.00

00:18:37.000 Anyway, and it surveyed three different meals.

00:18:40.000 And one was like a fast food meal.

00:18:42.000 Another was like an all organic home cooked meal.

00:18:44.000 Another was a meal that like you made everything.

00:18:47.000 Like you made the flour, you harvested the yeast, you did all that kind of stuff.

00:18:51.000 And It was the omnivore's dilemma was the name of it.

00:18:54.000 And like farms used to be like that.

00:18:57.000 Like you'd have some sheep and some pigs and some chickens and they would shit all over here and you'd be growing wheat or corn or whatever over here.

00:19:03.000 Then they'd move over here and then you'd move your crops over here.

00:19:06.000 And so you had a continual fertilization and self-utilized farm.

00:19:12.000 And then we moved all the animals off the farm and put them in feedlots.

00:19:15.000 And then now we just grow one crop over and over again.

00:19:18.000 So we need to have...

00:19:20.000 Yeah, but even if they're doing that, you're still using farm equipment.

00:19:23.000 The farm equipment had to be built somewhere, the construction materials, there's residue, there's waste, there's all sorts of pollution that comes out of the machines themselves.

00:19:34.000 There's some people that are trying to figure out a way how to take carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and utilize it, how to take waste, like all the different waste products that people create, With all the different things that we do, whether it's making computers or whether it's driving buses and figure out a way to turn that waste into something profitable or into something useful.

00:19:56.000 It has to be hella profitable.

00:19:57.000 Well, it'd have to be hell useful, too, right?

00:19:59.000 That's the idea behind the plastic island in the ocean.

00:20:04.000 How do you utilize that?

00:20:05.000 It's not really an island.

00:20:07.000 People get mad if you call it an island.

00:20:08.000 Because you can't build a house on it?

00:20:10.000 Exactly.

00:20:10.000 You can't sell real estate there.

00:20:11.000 We can't live on that, so fuck you. 1.00

00:20:13.000 It's not that. 1.00

00:20:14.000 Alright, I figured it made its own environment, though.

00:20:16.000 What do we call it? 1.00

00:20:17.000 It's a floating shit. 1.00

00:20:19.000 Can we call it cancer? 1.00

00:20:20.000 Floating shit, like the size of Texas. 1.00

00:20:22.000 They don't even know how big it is, really. 1.00

00:20:24.000 That's disputed, too.

00:20:24.000 I like how all the plastic finds each other.

00:20:27.000 Everybody wants community, even plastic.

00:20:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:30.000 I think that's beautiful.

00:20:32.000 It is beautiful.

00:20:33.000 It's like a love story.

00:20:33.000 Plastic, a love story.

00:20:34.000 Plastic, a love story.

00:20:35.000 It could be a new show right there.

00:20:35.000 That should be one of those little 15-minute shorts before you watch a kid's movie.

00:20:38.000 You know what, dude?

00:20:40.000 That's what I need to do. 1.00

00:20:41.000 Fuck all this other shit. 1.00

00:20:43.000 I need to get a job with Chevron or something or the plastic companies, and I'll be the guy that goes out there. 1.00

00:20:48.000 I remember when we were filming Two Guns, and I was in Louisiana, and they just fucked up the whole gulf.

00:20:54.000 It's like way to go.

00:20:55.000 You were there when that happened?

00:20:56.000 It was right after that.

00:20:58.000 Did you smell it?

00:20:59.000 No.

00:21:00.000 I didn't go down.

00:21:01.000 It wasn't like that right there.

00:21:02.000 I wasn't on the shores.

00:21:03.000 How far away were you?

00:21:04.000 We're in New Orleans.

00:21:06.000 And how far away is that from the water?

00:21:07.000 I don't know.

00:21:09.000 Not that far, right?

00:21:10.000 The river runs out into it and all that.

00:21:11.000 So you didn't smell anything crazy? 0.99

00:21:13.000 I mean, New Orleans smells fucking weird. 0.97

00:21:16.000 Anyway, there's a lot of new smells to me. 0.94

00:21:17.000 I went to Bourbon Street and I was like, this is just like, and they got everybody at Walmart hammered and brought a party bus and dropped them off.

00:21:26.000 That's what Bourbon Street's like.

00:21:27.000 It's a trip.

00:21:28.000 Bourbon Street's awesome. 0.99

00:21:29.000 It's fucking crazy. 0.93

00:21:30.000 I love it. 0.99

00:21:30.000 And then it feels like you walk back all through that corridor and you're like, It's all misty and shit, and you're like, this is where Jack the Ripper lives. 0.99

00:21:38.000 It's fucking eerie as fuck back there. 0.99

00:21:41.000 And there's tranny hookers and fucking all kinds of darkness all through there. 1.00

00:21:45.000 It's a trip. 1.00

00:21:46.000 There's a lot of darkness. 0.99

00:21:47.000 But anyway, BP is doing all this shit, and they're going, look at what we've done to help. 0.99

00:21:51.000 I could be one of those spin doctors for the plastic guys. 0.99

00:21:55.000 The look at what we've done to help is adorable.

00:21:57.000 It was awesome.

00:21:58.000 I was like, I really believe these guys.

00:21:59.000 These are great commercials.

00:22:00.000 Yeah.

00:22:00.000 Look what we've done to help.

00:22:03.000 Even though we've dumped millions of gallons of oil.

00:22:06.000 It's like Halliburton.

00:22:06.000 They could be like, look at all these dead Iraqis.

00:22:09.000 Look at what we've done to help.

00:22:10.000 And then they could show them Baghdad like five years ago and Baghdad now.

00:22:13.000 It's a little different.

00:22:16.000 It used to be like New York City.

00:22:17.000 Now it's caves.

00:22:19.000 What we're trying to do is we start from scratch and then do it right this time.

00:22:25.000 Take people and do it right.

00:22:28.000 You know that is one of the arguments that historians use like it's in the beginning of Dan Carlin's hardcore history series on the Mongols.

00:22:37.000 Did you listen to that?

00:22:38.000 You know he's talking about Hitler in the beginning of the thing he's talking about how the way people talk about Genghis Khan today They say that he opened up the trade routes with China and all the things they try to put a positive spin on what he did but the reason why they could do that is because It was a thousand years ago. 0.70

00:22:56.000 Right.

00:22:56.000 But if they try to do that about Hitler, it's too soon.

00:22:59.000 He's like, it's an interesting thing that people do when it comes to history.

00:23:02.000 Too soon is a funny hashtag.

00:23:03.000 Hashtag too soon.

00:23:04.000 Hitler, hashtag too soon.

00:23:07.000 Hashtag blessed.

00:23:10.000 Yeah.

00:23:11.000 Every revolution starts with a fight.

00:23:13.000 Yeah.

00:23:14.000 I learned that today on the UFC promo for Ronda and Holly.

00:23:18.000 Pfft! 0.63

00:23:20.000 Have you seen the thing that they've done?

00:23:21.000 Well, actually, I can't talk about it.

00:23:23.000 I don't think it's going to be public yet.

00:23:24.000 I cried when I saw it.

00:23:25.000 It was so good. 0.99

00:23:27.000 They're doing great fucking promo work for Holly and Rhonda's fight. 0.98

00:23:31.000 Oh, the one with her? 0.99

00:23:31.000 And it shows them as little girls coming up. 0.99

00:23:33.000 Oh, you did see that one.

00:23:33.000 Did you cry?

00:23:34.000 Oh, dude.

00:23:35.000 You know what brought it on is when Holly as a little girl is sitting in church and the people are looking at her...

00:23:42.000 Because she's got a black eye. 1.00

00:23:43.000 And it looks up and she's got a black eye and she kind of gives that smile. 0.99

00:23:46.000 And what made me cry is the pride of a black eye that people don't have.

00:23:52.000 There's not a lot of people that would know what that is.

00:23:54.000 To be proud.

00:23:55.000 She worked for that black eye. 1.00

00:23:56.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:57.000 Well, people would look at a girl with a black eye and think that she got beat by her man. 1.00

00:24:00.000 Could be.

00:24:01.000 That's what a lot of people think.

00:24:02.000 I don't think that way.

00:24:02.000 I don't see color, Joe.

00:24:04.000 That's not a color thing, dude.

00:24:07.000 I think that's a male-female.

00:24:09.000 It's a gender thing. 1.00

00:24:10.000 Could be.

00:24:11.000 I'm just not that aggressive.

00:24:14.000 It is a funny thing, man.

00:24:15.000 Why do you laugh, Jamie?

00:24:18.000 It is a funny thing, man.

00:24:19.000 If you train a lot and you have a black eye, it's kind of a badge of courage.

00:24:23.000 Hell yeah.

00:24:23.000 It's like cauliflower ear.

00:24:24.000 Somebody asked me what the fuck was wrong with my ear. 0.99

00:24:26.000 I'm like, what's wrong with yours, punk? 1.00

00:24:28.000 That's man shit, son. 1.00

00:24:31.000 One time I had a serious black... 1.00

00:24:34.000 I actually had two black eyes, and I was on Fear Factor.

00:24:38.000 And I was like, look, just let me do the show with black eyes. 1.00

00:24:41.000 Who gives a shit? 1.00

00:24:42.000 They brought in... 0.99

00:24:43.000 Because I didn't wear makeup on Fear Factor, but during that I did.

00:24:46.000 They brought in a makeup artist, a spray person.

00:24:49.000 They sprayed under my eye.

00:24:50.000 So crazy back then how people don't want to be authentic.

00:24:52.000 They're like, we can't have this be real.

00:24:53.000 We need to have it look a certain way the way we think of him to look.

00:24:56.000 It's like, how about you?

00:24:57.000 I look like me.

00:24:59.000 It's great. 0.99

00:25:00.000 It's like all that shit about the camera puts on 10 pounds or whatever. 1.00

00:25:02.000 Motherfucker, it makes you look exactly like you are. 1.00

00:25:05.000 You're not happy with that. 1.00

00:25:06.000 Don't be so fat.

00:25:07.000 I don't know what to tell you.

00:25:08.000 I've never understood that camera puts on 10 pounds thing.

00:25:10.000 I look in the mirror.

00:25:11.000 I look at myself on camera.

00:25:13.000 It's exactly the same.

00:25:14.000 Real similar.

00:25:15.000 It's the same!

00:25:16.000 How does a camera put on 10 pounds?

00:25:18.000 Where is that coming from?

00:25:19.000 So good.

00:25:20.000 Is that like the old cameras?

00:25:21.000 Maybe so.

00:25:23.000 Maybe like them old... 0.93

00:25:24.000 With some kind of flex lens?

00:25:25.000 Maybe.

00:25:26.000 Like a circus lens?

00:25:27.000 Maybe it was like before they had HD. It's fucking funny, man. 0.99

00:25:29.000 You know, when I was on news radio... 0.99

00:25:31.000 Maybe it's just people are pussies and they'll make any excuse to not have it be real. 1.00

00:25:34.000 It's not my fault. 0.99

00:25:35.000 I don't need to be accountable for that.

00:25:38.000 It's the camera.

00:25:38.000 Well, I'm in really good shape.

00:25:39.000 It's just this camera makes me have a gut.

00:25:44.000 When I was on news radio, it was right when they were introducing HD cameras. 1.00

00:25:49.000 And I'll tell you, man, actresses were shit in their pants. 1.00

00:25:52.000 Really? 1.00

00:25:53.000 It was crazy.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, they'd have conversations in the makeup room, like, we're going to need a lot more of this once the HD cameras come.

00:26:00.000 But they were all scared.

00:26:01.000 Because you can have a girl that... 0.97

00:26:03.000 Those makeup people like to be scared anyway.

00:26:04.000 They like to create a drama.

00:26:05.000 It wasn't the makeup people, it was the actresses. 1.00

00:26:07.000 Those are of sound mind.

00:26:11.000 They're all stable women. 1.00

00:26:12.000 Well, they knew that they looked better on TV than they did in real life.

00:26:15.000 You look at David Caruso and...

00:26:17.000 Oh, Jesus. 1.00

00:26:18.000 That poor bastard. 1.00

00:26:19.000 Or in real life, it's like, holy fuck. 1.00

00:26:20.000 In real life, he looks like a zombie. 1.00

00:26:22.000 Dude, and 106. Yeah, at least 106. 106 with a good diet.

00:26:27.000 Some real Crypt Keeper shit. 1.00

00:26:28.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:26:28.000 Yeah, he swings kettlebells. 0.99

00:26:30.000 Does he?

00:26:31.000 No.

00:26:32.000 That guy's like, is he a smoker?

00:26:34.000 Is that what's going on?

00:26:35.000 He looks like he must be, but he's also redheaded. 1.00

00:26:37.000 He's got that Bill Burr shit. 0.99

00:26:39.000 But Bill Burr looks great. 1.00

00:26:40.000 He looks really good. 0.99

00:26:41.000 He looks healthy as fuck. 0.99

00:26:42.000 He's got the funniest thing, too, about faceless. 0.99

00:26:45.000 Does he?

00:26:45.000 He's like, I'd rather look like a 40-year-old guy than a 29-year-old lizard.

00:26:53.000 He's like, It's clear they don't have that shit worked out. 0.99

00:26:55.000 What are you doing pulling your face straight like that? 0.99

00:26:57.000 That is weird, man.

00:26:58.000 He's awesome.

00:26:58.000 There's this lady at my daughter's gymnastics class who's got monster face.

00:27:03.000 I call it monster face. 1.00

00:27:04.000 When those poor ladies, they do their lips, and then they shoot rubber into their face to fucking fill it up, and then they pull that bitch back, and then she's monster face. 1.00

00:27:12.000 Like, you look at her, you go, oh, Jesus. 1.00

00:27:15.000 But meanwhile, she's right next to a 70-year-old lady who looks fine. 1.00

00:27:19.000 You look at her, you go, hello, how you doing?

00:27:21.000 You don't get weirded out at all.

00:27:23.000 You're just looking at an older woman. 0.98

00:27:24.000 That ageism is a weird thing, and the self-talk that happens around it that people do is like, it's a fucking trip, like what people run from in that way. 0.99

00:27:34.000 It is. 0.97

00:27:34.000 Well, it just feels like... 0.97

00:27:36.000 But then they don't do the shit that would really do it. 0.97

00:27:38.000 It's like, don't you want to move well all the time? 0.99

00:27:40.000 Don't you want to fucking, like, be able-bodied? 0.97

00:27:43.000 No, no, no, but I could get some surgery to do something. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Like, fuck. 1.00

00:27:45.000 Well, they just want to look good. 1.00

00:27:47.000 Right.

00:27:47.000 Like, there's some people that look good until their face moves.

00:27:50.000 Like, they can convince themselves they look good because they're, like, looking in the mirror and then everything looks okay as long as they stay still.

00:27:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:27:57.000 But once they start talking and you go, hey, your fucking cheeks aren't moving, man. 0.99

00:28:00.000 Right. 0.99

00:28:01.000 Like, one time we were in the green room.

00:28:02.000 No facial expression.

00:28:04.000 We were in the green room of the improv in Brea and this...

00:28:08.000 Remember when Joan Rivers and her daughter had like a reality show? 1.00

00:28:12.000 And I was high as fuck. 1.00

00:28:14.000 And you're wondering, who do I want to fuck more, Joan or her daughter? 1.00

00:28:16.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:28:18.000 That's how...

00:28:19.000 Neither one of those...

00:28:21.000 We're an option.

00:28:22.000 But I was looking.

00:28:23.000 We were really, really high.

00:28:25.000 It was me and Diaz.

00:28:26.000 And you know how that goes.

00:28:27.000 So we're in the green room and we're looking up at the screen.

00:28:31.000 And I couldn't.

00:28:32.000 I was freaked out.

00:28:34.000 I mean, just like nervous and terrified at Joan Rivers' face.

00:28:37.000 Because her face was like a rubber kabuki mask. 0.87

00:28:39.000 It's absolutely as if when you're looking and you're like, it looks like somebody's about to explode.

00:28:44.000 It looks like there's an impending something happening and you're not sure what. 0.51

00:28:47.000 But it's like it's so fucking not right.

00:28:50.000 Well, it just looked frozen. 0.93

00:28:53.000 It looked like frozen and rubber and weird.

00:28:56.000 She died getting operated on, right?

00:28:58.000 It wasn't plastic surgery, though.

00:29:00.000 I don't think it was plastic surgery.

00:29:01.000 Isn't that how Kanye's mom died, too?

00:29:03.000 I think so.

00:29:04.000 Yes, I think she died from plastic surgery.

00:29:06.000 Anesthesia going under. 1.00

00:29:08.000 That going under is no bullshit. 1.00

00:29:10.000 It's weird that we live in such an advanced society, but they're like, just putting people to sleep, we might kill them. 1.00

00:29:14.000 Don't know.

00:29:15.000 It's so rare, though.

00:29:16.000 You have to be at poor health to go on.

00:29:18.000 I've gone under a bunch of times for surgeries.

00:29:20.000 I mean, I've had both my knees done, one knee twice, my nose done. 0.99

00:29:25.000 I've had a lot of shit fixed. 0.99

00:29:26.000 And they just put you under in their front. 0.99

00:29:29.000 Like, you never hear of a fighter dying when they go under.

00:29:32.000 It's usually older people or people that are in poor health.

00:29:35.000 I think I've been under four times, maybe.

00:29:35.000 What have you had done?

00:29:37.000 My knee, my shoulder three times. 0.99

00:29:39.000 Damn, you had your shoulder done three times? 1.00

00:29:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:42.000 I was an overachiever. 1.00

00:29:43.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:29:45.000 They scoped it first, and then I ripped that one out, and then they did another one where it was a real aggressive thing. 1.00

00:29:51.000 They changed my anatomy around in that shoulder. 0.64

00:29:54.000 What does that mean?

00:29:55.000 Your bicep head goes in, and they cut off the bone where it goes in on one of them, and they moved it and screwed it in underneath to be like a physical block so it wouldn't dislocate, which then you fast-forward.

00:30:07.000 15 years later, and I was having a lot of AC joint hurt, like trouble, and there's just rubbing together.

00:30:14.000 And so this other doctor, he goes in and he's going to clean that up and says, it'll be great, awesome.

00:30:19.000 He looks at my x-rays, he goes, oh my God, who did this to you?

00:30:21.000 And I go, that's not very encouraging.

00:30:23.000 What do you mean? 1.00

00:30:24.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:30:25.000 He goes... 1.00

00:30:26.000 Just, nobody ethically would change your anatomy like that. 0.99

00:30:30.000 And I was like, it was a cutting-edge shit at Michigan State University fucking 15 years ago. 0.99

00:30:34.000 Like, I don't know. 0.99

00:30:36.000 Wow.

00:30:36.000 So anyway, but it's been solid since then.

00:30:38.000 That's my good shoulder.

00:30:40.000 So did that guy do it again?

00:30:41.000 That guy just cleaned up my AC joint.

00:30:43.000 That was not for surgery.

00:30:45.000 So when they clean it up, what do they do?

00:30:47.000 My friend Melissa from the UFC, she just had her shoulder done.

00:30:51.000 I think they shave it.

00:30:53.000 They put some kind of fake synovial fluid maybe back in it.

00:30:56.000 They try to influence cartilage growth, perhaps.

00:31:00.000 Well, hers was bone growth. 1.00

00:31:02.000 When you have any sort of an issue, like a lot of arthritis and rubbing, you see that a lot in spinal stenosis.

00:31:10.000 Around the spinal columns, you'll see growth on the edges of the spine.

00:31:16.000 Of the discs?

00:31:17.000 Yeah.

00:31:17.000 Well, not on the discs itself, but on the hard pieces, the spine.

00:31:21.000 You know, the disc is the stuff in between the spine.

00:31:24.000 And the, what do they call those things?

00:31:26.000 What's the spine bone?

00:31:28.000 What's a bone?

00:31:29.000 I think we did.

00:31:30.000 Spine bone.

00:31:31.000 Spine bone.

00:31:31.000 Yeah, I know just what you're talking about.

00:31:32.000 Well, the disc is your backbone.

00:31:34.000 The disc is in between that there's a semi-permeable, like, pumice-crete type of deal.

00:31:38.000 Yeah, that's the mushy stuff.

00:31:39.000 Yeah.

00:31:39.000 And that's the stuff that cushions everything.

00:31:41.000 Right.

00:31:42.000 And the bone around it.

00:31:43.000 Like a shock absorber.

00:31:45.000 Vertebrae, thank you very much Jamie.

00:31:49.000 I knew there was a word.

00:31:50.000 How do I want to remember that?

00:31:52.000 Seems like that's in my lexicon.

00:31:54.000 I've had a rough day.

00:31:55.000 I've been running around.

00:31:56.000 But the edges, as your discs get smaller, if you're losing disc degeneration, and by the way, a lot of doctors will start to tell people that it's disc degeneration disease, and they'll let you know that, oh, it's a disease.

00:32:10.000 You don't have to worry about it.

00:32:11.000 It's use.

00:32:12.000 It's use.

00:32:13.000 It's not a disease, for the most part.

00:32:15.000 Most of the time when they say that, what it is is you've been abusing your body.

00:32:19.000 Because I've talked to a bunch of fighters, and they'll say, well, it's dis-generation.

00:32:23.000 Dis-degeneration disease. 0.98

00:32:24.000 I'm like, oh, well, it has nothing to do with you fucking head-butting dudes 100 miles an hour, like shooting for doubles, and running into people's hips. 0.98

00:32:31.000 Getting suplexed over and over again, or keto-tossed, or whatever. 0.98

00:32:34.000 This isn't a disease.

00:32:35.000 This isn't herpes.

00:32:37.000 Concussion. 0.99

00:32:37.000 Yeah, you're beating the fuck out of your body, man. 0.99

00:32:40.000 But the edges, they develop like bone spurs. 0.97

00:32:45.000 Like the bone tries to grow and almost like your bone is trying to fill in the area where it knows the spinal disc isn't there anymore.

00:32:54.000 It's weird how your body fights for homeostasis no matter what, like going into that.

00:32:58.000 That's like they said in my shoulder, there's enough scar tissue in this one.

00:33:01.000 That's probably what keeps it from getting dislocated.

00:33:04.000 The scar tissue keeps it in place?

00:33:05.000 Yeah.

00:33:06.000 Wow.

00:33:07.000 I got to get on that. 1.00

00:33:09.000 On that stem cell shit. 1.00

00:33:11.000 Dude, stem cell shit is the best. 1.00

00:33:13.000 Vegas, you still gotta give me that guy's info. 0.99

00:33:15.000 Oh, yeah.

00:33:16.000 Well, that's Dr. Davidson from the UFC is the one who connected me with the people.

00:33:21.000 But, dude, they've done a bunch of people now.

00:33:24.000 A bunch of UFC people have staggering results.

00:33:27.000 Yeah, you were saying Roy Nelson did his knee?

00:33:30.000 Cormier.

00:33:31.000 Daniel Cormier did his knee.

00:33:32.000 Stem cells.

00:33:33.000 If I were those guys at AKA, I would just do every joint.

00:33:37.000 Even if there was no problem, I'd be like, if he were the coach, he'd be like, just get in there and just do it.

00:33:41.000 Well, that's what Ludwig did.

00:33:42.000 Preemptively?

00:33:43.000 Yep, preemptively.

00:33:44.000 Got both his shoulders done.

00:33:46.000 I think he did his hips, too.

00:33:47.000 Dude, I can't imagine the... 1.00

00:33:49.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:33:49.000 He's such a savage. 1.00

00:33:51.000 And to hold mitts for somebody like that, like him, like Winklejohn should do that, too. 0.99

00:33:55.000 Like, you beat the fuck out of yourself. 0.97

00:33:57.000 Brandon Gibson, all those guys. 0.96

00:33:59.000 You're a professional mitt holder.

00:34:00.000 You need to do that.

00:34:01.000 That's worse than fighting.

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:03.000 For your shoulder joint health?

00:34:05.000 That's horrible for you. 1.00

00:34:06.000 Especially if you're holding mitts for some fucking gorilla. 1.00

00:34:08.000 For fucking Jon Jones? 1.00

00:34:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:09.000 Come on. 1.00

00:34:10.000 Well, Jon Jones hits hard, but like, imagine like Travis Brown.

00:34:15.000 Or Travis Brown.

00:34:16.000 Yeah.

00:34:18.000 Alistair Overeem.

00:34:19.000 Yeah.

00:34:19.000 Especially Alistair when he was on the sauce.

00:34:22.000 I don't know if that's true or not.

00:34:23.000 I believe it's true.

00:34:24.000 I think it was proven.

00:34:25.000 I believe it was proven.

00:34:27.000 I don't know what you're saying.

00:34:28.000 He was suspended. 1.00

00:34:29.000 All that shit is so dumb. 1.00

00:34:30.000 That drug shit. 1.00

00:34:31.000 Fucking stupid. 1.00

00:34:33.000 You know, when I was in high school, I had to write a paper, and the paper that I wrote was that you should legalize every drug. 1.00

00:34:40.000 That sounds like the kind of thing a 14-year-old would write. 0.97

00:34:43.000 I was all hyped up on NWA and gangster rap, and I was like, how in the fuck did Eazy-E get an Uzi? 0.97

00:34:51.000 He doesn't look like anybody that should have an Uzi. 0.95

00:34:54.000 That's true.

00:34:55.000 It's because he can sell, and the black market is the only thing that makes crime. 0.99

00:34:58.000 I'm like, why do we have a black, if they want to, but that's the thing, is like, and not everybody's all fucking excited about marijuana being, you're all twats. 1.00

00:35:06.000 Everybody's a fucking pussy. 1.00

00:35:07.000 You're out there, like, ooh, look at Wiccan Smoker joint on CNN. Well, guess what? 1.00

00:35:11.000 You still got fucking 500,000 guys that are locked up. 0.99

00:35:14.000 You should be protesting that every fucking day if pot's really actually legal. 0.99

00:35:18.000 Like, in those states, they should just be letting dudes out by the fucking dozens every minute. 1.00

00:35:22.000 That is true. 0.98

00:35:23.000 Can you imagine if you were in Colorado and you're in jail for selling weed. 1.00

00:35:25.000 I'd be like, what in the fuck? 1.00

00:35:28.000 What in the fuck? 1.00

00:35:29.000 And then how many of those guys are in there? 1.00

00:35:31.000 And then they fucking catch a real case in there because now you've got a fighter. 0.96

00:35:35.000 You're in a riot. 1.00

00:35:35.000 Fuck! 1.00

00:35:36.000 It's horrible. 1.00

00:35:37.000 That does happen.

00:35:38.000 That does happen. 0.99

00:35:39.000 All that shit should be legal. 0.99

00:35:40.000 The only thing that... 0.99

00:35:41.000 And people are like, well, if they just tax it, everybody's like, if they just tax it, the government... 0.98

00:35:45.000 But that's on the idea that the government gives a fuck. 0.99

00:35:49.000 The government... 0.99

00:35:49.000 I mean, it makes more money. 0.99

00:35:51.000 It's not like if I can tax you, who wants to buy weed.

00:35:54.000 I want to have...

00:35:55.000 How do I tax everybody?

00:35:56.000 I make them all scared and then I imprison guys for this illegality. 0.98

00:36:01.000 And then I can get the public dollars because, look it, isn't it scary that we got these black and Mexican guys that are selling dope and we need to put them somewhere. 1.00

00:36:08.000 Well, that's a business. 0.98

00:36:09.000 That's a huge business, the whole business, and that's why...

00:36:12.000 Well, that's a business, though.

00:36:13.000 There's another business.

00:36:14.000 The other business is legal marijuana, where you make more money from tax dollars from legal marijuana in Colorado.

00:36:20.000 Yes, they do.

00:36:21.000 And this year in Colorado, they made more money from tax dollars from marijuana than they did from alcohol for the first time ever.

00:36:27.000 Okay, but what I would love to see...

00:36:28.000 Because they tax it very high.

00:36:29.000 What I want to see, then, is those numbers... 0.94

00:36:32.000 Versus all the public and federal money that comes from taxpayers that goes into law enforcement, whether it's at sheriff, drug enforcement levels, DEA levels, FBI, like all the different funding, which is fucking huge. 0.99

00:36:46.000 And all the prison shit. 0.98

00:36:48.000 So all the public tax dollars. 1.00

00:36:51.000 Show me that the taxing on pot is more than that, and I would agree.

00:36:55.000 Well, it's not more than that now.

00:36:56.000 I bet it's dwarfed.

00:36:57.000 I bet you're right.

00:36:58.000 I bet you're right.

00:36:59.000 Well, drug enforcement...

00:37:01.000 Is weird because you're looking at a blanket, you know, you're looking at pills, you're looking at heroin, coke, the marijuana drug enforcement.

00:37:09.000 Legal, legal.

00:37:10.000 Make it all legal.

00:37:10.000 Yeah.

00:37:10.000 Well, make it all legal and at least you're going to get taxes from stuff that's already being sold anyway.

00:37:15.000 And then you can use that money for education, use that money for treatment. 0.99

00:37:18.000 But the people that are in law enforcement, the problem with the law enforcement when it comes to drugs is like, they're fucking lobbying to keep shit illegal. 0.99

00:37:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:37:27.000 They don't want it legal.

00:37:29.000 They don't.

00:37:29.000 And then when you've got, I believe it's the biggest union in the, maybe in the world, but in the country, is the correctional.

00:37:37.000 Prison guards.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, so you've got prison guards.

00:37:39.000 I don't know if it's the biggest, but they lobby, they're one of the biggest contributors for drug legals, keeping drugs illegal.

00:37:46.000 They lobby hard to make sure that drugs stay illegal because it keeps them in jobs.

00:37:50.000 But you know what, man?

00:37:51.000 You just got to figure out alternatives for those people. 0.99

00:37:53.000 Do you think people that are prison guards want to be fucking prison guards? 0.98

00:37:56.000 If you could find some sort of a positive job. 1.00

00:38:00.000 If you could, but I bet a lot of those guys are like, I'm in power over some fucking bad motherfuckers and they like that. 1.00

00:38:06.000 Their consciousness is fucked up because they're like, well, if you got that job, you're a prisoner. 1.00

00:38:12.000 I mean you are a prisoner all day. 0.99

00:38:14.000 I mean you've just chosen to be a prisoner and you think you're free. 1.00

00:38:17.000 You're fucked. 1.00

00:38:18.000 You're a head guy. 1.00

00:38:18.000 You just don't know and so it's a guy that's kind of got that kind of consciousness to where he doesn't even know he's fucked. 1.00

00:38:23.000 Can you imagine the fucking feeling that you must get like they shut those gates behind you and you're working with all those people that are in there for life and you got to go home at night and then you're gonna go home at night and you can quit and leave anytime you want but your work environment is filled with all these people that are just doomed. 0.98

00:38:39.000 They're doomed and occasionally they arrive. 0.98

00:38:41.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:38:43.000 I watched that Freeway Rick Ross documentary last week and I thought, man, that is crazy.

00:38:48.000 You're like, you know, more money than anything.

00:38:53.000 You're living a life that is like if Bill Gates had an exciting life, whatever you wanted to do, any vacations, anything, and then you go into nothing, a prison, and then you come out and he's just printing t-shirts or whatever he's trying to do and trying to stay straight.

00:39:09.000 He's just trying to hustle. 1.00

00:39:10.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:39:10.000 Yeah, he does like speeches and does a bunch of different shit, but he's just trying to hustle and stay straight. 1.00

00:39:15.000 It's hard, man. 0.97

00:39:17.000 It's also crazy because he went in and he was making all that money, millions and millions of dollars, and he couldn't read.

00:39:22.000 Millions a day.

00:39:23.000 Yeah, millions a day, couldn't read. 0.99

00:39:25.000 And then figured out how to read, then figured out how to fucking read law books, and then figured out that his case was bullshit, and then got it overturned. 0.99

00:39:34.000 That's the crazy part. 0.99

00:39:36.000 He was under the three strikes law.

00:39:38.000 Yeah.

00:39:38.000 But they tried to try him for...

00:39:41.000 He said it was an ongoing criminal enterprise, not a...

00:39:44.000 Or whatever.

00:39:45.000 It was one robbing spree.

00:39:47.000 That it wasn't secular events, is how he did it.

00:39:50.000 So they were saying, Ohio's a separate thing.

00:39:52.000 And he's like, no, because I was on a continuous criminal spree.

00:39:55.000 My whole life was a continuous criminal spree.

00:39:57.000 Well, the three-strike thing, they tried him for two things at the same time.

00:40:02.000 Uh-huh.

00:40:02.000 And it's not how it works.

00:40:04.000 You're supposed to go away, and then they catch you again, and you go away, and then they catch you again at three strikes.

00:40:09.000 But they tried to do it for him with more than one different thing tagged onto one arrest.

00:40:16.000 Right.

00:40:16.000 That's not how it works.

00:40:17.000 Oh, and then they planted a bunch of shit on him. 0.99

00:40:19.000 They just wanted to put him in jail to win. 1.00

00:40:21.000 That's the thing.

00:40:22.000 It's weird that they let him out.

00:40:23.000 It's weird that that worked.

00:40:25.000 Well, it worked because he was right.

00:40:27.000 Yeah.

00:40:27.000 But the problem, I've been talking about this a lot, I think the problem with law enforcement in general, like one of the big problems is that people want to win.

00:40:36.000 When people get in a game, whether it's jujitsu or it's fucking ping pong, you want to win.

00:40:42.000 Or like the drug testers, like they're not looking, they're not wanting you to have, I mean, that's not true, some guys probably are, but they're not looking for you to have a free test. 0.93

00:40:48.000 They're like, I want to catch this dirty guy and they see all the guys as dirty.

00:40:51.000 You know what I mean? 0.87

00:40:52.000 Well, yeah.

00:40:53.000 But, I mean, that's the hustle, right?

00:40:54.000 That's what they're trying to do.

00:40:55.000 They're trying to catch people cheating. 1.00

00:40:57.000 So they, oh, look at this motherfucker. 1.00

00:40:58.000 Like, every day, you're playing a game, and the game is catch the guy with the rubber dick. 1.00

00:41:02.000 Do you think they should... 0.99

00:41:04.000 Oh. 0.84

00:41:04.000 Fake piss. 0.84

00:41:05.000 The whizenator. 0.99

00:41:06.000 I got excited.

00:41:07.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:41:08.000 Jeff Monson made that famous.

00:41:10.000 Did he?

00:41:11.000 Yeah, he was the first guy that I'd heard about a Wizenator with. 1.00

00:41:15.000 But those guys are fucking... 1.00

00:41:17.000 I think all that shit should be legal too. 1.00

00:41:18.000 Like when they do gene splicing or whatever the fuck is next that they're going to do, like they're going to have myostatin inhibitors and all that kind of stuff. 1.00

00:41:25.000 You're going to have a thing if all these fucking useless fucking nerds that are regulating this shit are like... 1.00

00:41:32.000 We want to have clean athletes. 1.00

00:41:34.000 Whatever.

00:41:35.000 Okay. 0.99

00:41:35.000 So you're going to have a crowd of fucking people at the MGM that are all in way better shape and condition than the actual fucking fighters that are competing. 0.99

00:41:43.000 That is for sure what the future is. 0.98

00:41:45.000 When that does happen, we're going to have to have a totally new conversation.

00:41:48.000 Because I think right now what's going on is they're just trying to prevent the first drips of water that are coming out of that dam.

00:41:54.000 And they're putting their fingers in it.

00:41:56.000 It's like stopping the rise of the machines.

00:41:59.000 Elon Musk?

00:42:00.000 You're not going to do it.

00:42:01.000 It's coming.

00:42:03.000 What are you going to do in New Mexico?

00:42:05.000 I'll just roll, baby.

00:42:07.000 I'll roll it with you.

00:42:08.000 I don't know.

00:42:08.000 I'll ride it out.

00:42:09.000 How do we do this?

00:42:10.000 I'll survive.

00:42:11.000 Well, tell me how we do this.

00:42:12.000 Let's plan this out.

00:42:13.000 I don't know.

00:42:13.000 I can't plan.

00:42:14.000 Let's get a ranch. 0.99

00:42:14.000 I can't plan. 0.99

00:42:15.000 Let's get a ranch. 0.99

00:42:15.000 We've been talking about that for a decade. 0.99

00:42:16.000 Let's do it.

00:42:17.000 Come on, man.

00:42:18.000 We both have money.

00:42:19.000 What state?

00:42:20.000 You're making some banks now.

00:42:21.000 I see you in the movies. 0.71

00:42:22.000 Money, dog! 1.00

00:42:25.000 Every time I fucking watch an action movie, I see you get shot. 1.00

00:42:28.000 I'm in Sicario right now. 0.99

00:42:29.000 Are you in that one? 1.00

00:42:30.000 Yelling in Spanish at motherfuckers. 1.00

00:42:32.000 Really? 1.00

00:42:32.000 I heard that movie's dope. 1.00

00:42:34.000 They're like, can anybody speak Spanish?

00:42:35.000 I'm like... 1.00

00:42:36.000 Right here, bitch. 1.00

00:42:37.000 Well, I looked around, there's four of us, and I looked around, and there's fucking a bunch of Chicano dudes and me. 0.99

00:42:40.000 And I was like, well, if one of these guys for sure... 0.91

00:42:42.000 And none of them raised their hand, I'm like, boom!

00:42:44.000 And then I got on my text to fucking the guy that coaches jiu-jitsu for us at 10th Planet in Santa Fe, and I'm like, hey, Ruben, how do I say... 0.99

00:42:56.000 Get on one of those fucking... 0.99

00:42:57.000 Through text? 1.00

00:42:59.000 Through text, he fucking... 0.99

00:43:01.000 I'm like, dude, you got to write it out phonetically. 0.99

00:43:03.000 I don't need to know the real...

00:43:04.000 This has got to sound right.

00:43:07.000 You just got to get one of those Rosetta Stones.

00:43:08.000 And then I just practiced over and over.

00:43:09.000 It was in the moment.

00:43:10.000 It was like going to film 20 minutes later. 1.00

00:43:12.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:43:12.000 It was like right then. 1.00

00:43:13.000 They're like, hey, we want to add this scene in.

00:43:15.000 It was awesome. 0.99

00:43:16.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:43:17.000 It's a little known secret. 1.00

00:43:18.000 Wow.

00:43:19.000 Don't tell anybody.

00:43:20.000 Too late.

00:43:21.000 That's awesome.

00:43:22.000 I love that.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, dude.

00:43:23.000 That's tape.

00:43:24.000 I just make shit happen. 0.99

00:43:25.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:43:25.000 I hear you, dude. 0.99

00:43:26.000 That's what I say. 1.00

00:43:26.000 I just freestyle that shit. 1.00

00:43:27.000 Like, however it's going to work. 1.00

00:43:28.000 It's like the whole movie thing and going, how did this happen? 1.00

00:43:31.000 I'm like, fuck. 1.00

00:43:32.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:43:33.000 And I try to ask you.

00:43:34.000 I'm like, do I need an agent? 1.00

00:43:35.000 And you're like, fuck, I don't know. 0.99

00:43:36.000 And you know, one of the best things that I've heard about it is... 1.00

00:43:41.000 Fucking Pauly Shore. 0.98

00:43:43.000 Pauly Shore gave you advice? 0.99

00:43:45.000 No, he was giving advice to three other little actors, like Benji and a couple people that were comics at the store.

00:43:51.000 And he goes, you know, the truth is... 0.99

00:43:55.000 Nobody knows how to do it, and I just took that and I go, okay, fuck everybody. 1.00

00:43:59.000 Everybody that tells you how to do it, they've never done it. 0.99

00:44:01.000 All those people are coaching acting, or they're doing whatever, and I'm like, I'm just gonna run with this and fucking do it, and I'll show up, and I see the guys that are there, and I'm like, well, I don't know that I'm great, but I know I'm better than that guy.

00:44:12.000 But you also have an unusual look.

00:44:14.000 I do.

00:44:15.000 I've been told that a lot, and now it's paying off.

00:44:19.000 But, you know, you're a big giant dude.

00:44:21.000 You got a crazy beard. 0.91

00:44:22.000 Yeah.

00:44:22.000 You know, you know how to fight.

00:44:24.000 I give all these skills. 1.00

00:44:25.000 Handsome as fuck. 1.00

00:44:26.000 Thank you. 1.00

00:44:26.000 Intelligent. 1.00

00:44:27.000 Speak well. 0.99

00:44:27.000 Green-eyed devil. 0.99

00:44:28.000 You look great.

00:44:29.000 You got a lot going on.

00:44:31.000 Well, all that came, and then I just kept...

00:44:34.000 You know, I always used to live, like, thinking the other shoe's about to drop, right?

00:44:37.000 Mm-hmm.

00:44:38.000 For a long time, and I thought, it's just not going to end up good.

00:44:41.000 And because, like, I didn't correlate that my actions were getting my results in a lot of ways, you know?

00:44:47.000 And...

00:44:48.000 And I think, you know, a big part of that is just being accountable for your life. 0.99

00:44:51.000 Like, a guy told me, he says, you know why you're all fucked up? 0.99

00:44:54.000 And I go, why? 0.98

00:44:55.000 And he's like, because you think you're a good guy.

00:44:59.000 Because you base yourself on your intentions.

00:45:01.000 And the whole world is reacting to your actions.

00:45:05.000 And I was like...

00:45:06.000 Well, don't they know that I intended... 0.99

00:45:09.000 If you step on a dude's shoes and you didn't mean to, his shoes are still fucking dirty. 1.00

00:45:15.000 And so just bringing all that shit into my everyday... 0.99

00:45:18.000 I think the whole thing more and more that I think about is heightening awareness. 1.00

00:45:22.000 And the more you are aware, the less dumb you are. 0.99

00:45:24.000 And the less dumb you are, the better off you do. 1.00

00:45:26.000 That's a really good point. 1.00

00:45:27.000 But you can train yourself to be more aware.

00:45:30.000 Yes, you can.

00:45:31.000 And it happens all the time.

00:45:32.000 And you don't just get it, but you get layers of it, you know?

00:45:35.000 Yeah, layers.

00:45:36.000 That's a great way of putting it.

00:45:38.000 The whole way you just said it is a great way of putting it.

00:45:40.000 I think a lot of people think that they're a good person.

00:45:43.000 Right. 1.00

00:45:44.000 But they'll do douchey shit, or they try to get away with something because they're hustling, they're broke, and they'll maybe fuck someone over. 1.00

00:45:51.000 Dude, it's that constant self-reflection. 1.00

00:45:51.000 It's that constant self-reflection. 1.00

00:45:53.000 And people are like, well, how are you successful or whatever?

00:45:55.000 And I'm like... 0.98

00:45:56.000 Because I'm a loser. 0.91

00:45:57.000 I remember talking with you and you're like, I always felt like a loser too. 1.00

00:46:01.000 Like when we would go on the road and shit. 0.98

00:46:03.000 Because I'm living a life that's different than other people living. 0.98

00:46:06.000 I'm not a 9 to 5 guy or whatever the thing is.

00:46:09.000 And so you're living this life that's out of the norm.

00:46:12.000 And thank God you get to be an uncommon man in that way.

00:46:15.000 The other way would have killed me.

00:46:16.000 And you.

00:46:18.000 And Eddie.

00:46:19.000 And Ari.

00:46:20.000 And you know what I mean?

00:46:21.000 And Duncan.

00:46:21.000 And you look at all that and I go, that's no fucking mistake that we're all doing well, happy, positive.

00:46:28.000 And I go, man, I owe everything just to the people that I've chosen to have around me.

00:46:32.000 That's the people that I've been graced about in my life.

00:46:35.000 Huge, huge part of your life.

00:46:36.000 Huge, man.

00:46:37.000 And you also, you get power when your friends are doing well.

00:46:40.000 Like, when I see you in movies, I get power.

00:46:42.000 You know, when I see you in John Wick, I get power from that.

00:46:45.000 I'm just like, ooh.

00:46:47.000 It's like, how do you stay inspired?

00:46:49.000 You stay around inspirational people.

00:46:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:46:52.000 And that's the thing for me.

00:46:53.000 And so, like, whether it's the gym I work out at or, you know, what I'm putting in my body or anything, like, who I'm living with. 0.98

00:47:00.000 All that shit matters, man.

00:47:01.000 Where I'm living, I used to live in Hancock Park, and then I moved to Venice, and I'm like, all my people are in Venice, and I want to be near the ocean, and that's a different vibe down there. 0.99

00:47:09.000 It's a different vibe.

00:47:10.000 It's very crowded, but it's a great vibe.

00:47:12.000 It's so nice, man.

00:47:13.000 It's more relaxing.

00:47:14.000 It's like being in New Mexico for me.

00:47:16.000 I'll jam next to each other, though.

00:47:18.000 I don't like the crowdedness of Venice.

00:47:20.000 That's why I could never look at New York.

00:47:23.000 I'm only at Deuce Gym, the place where I work out at and train a lot.

00:47:26.000 I know where that is.

00:47:27.000 Outdoors, right across from Whole Foods.

00:47:28.000 That's a great spot.

00:47:29.000 I'm just there, posted up. 0.99

00:47:30.000 We do podcasts there, fuck around. 0.99

00:47:32.000 Like, it's rad. 1.00

00:47:33.000 It's fucking nice. 0.85

00:47:34.000 And then everything's walking distance. 0.98

00:47:35.000 Is that your friend's gym?

00:47:36.000 Do you know people?

00:47:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:37.000 And so you live up near there?

00:47:39.000 Yeah, just like, I don't know, five minutes away.

00:47:41.000 It's a nice area.

00:47:42.000 There's a lot of good restaurants.

00:47:43.000 There's a lot of great stuff.

00:47:45.000 Huge, man.

00:47:45.000 If you had a place to park your car...

00:47:47.000 You know what, though?

00:47:48.000 Parking's better than Hollywood. 0.97

00:47:49.000 It beats the shit out of parking in Hollywood. 0.99

00:47:51.000 That's true. 1.00

00:47:52.000 But Hollywood is so ridiculous. 0.98

00:47:53.000 And you can walk. 0.96

00:47:54.000 Like, my favorite restaurants are like Clutch on Lincoln and then Oscars down on Rose.

00:47:58.000 Yeah.

00:47:59.000 And those are just both five minutes from anywhere.

00:48:01.000 Like, it's easy.

00:48:02.000 Or there's a great Italian restaurant in Washington, too.

00:48:06.000 There's a lot of good places down there, like you said.

00:48:09.000 Yeah.

00:48:09.000 And there's always valet.

00:48:10.000 You know, fuck, there's always valet if you're... 1.00

00:48:12.000 I hate valet. 1.00

00:48:13.000 If you're fucking... 1.00

00:48:15.000 You just gotta drive the right car. 1.00

00:48:16.000 You can't drive your car.

00:48:17.000 I have a pickup truck. 1.00

00:48:19.000 I'm a goddamn American over here. 0.99

00:48:20.000 I don't have Joe Rogan money yet. 0.99

00:48:22.000 I didn't have my...

00:48:22.000 You know what?

00:48:23.000 Who does?

00:48:24.000 This is it, too, man.

00:48:26.000 So after Breaking Bad, I got some money off of that.

00:48:30.000 And then at that same time, a friend of mine from New Mexico...

00:48:34.000 This guy, Rico Taylor, he calls and he goes, hey dude, I'm...

00:48:37.000 And he was best friends with my friend Marcos, who started Nuevo with me.

00:48:43.000 And so Nuevo... 0.72

00:48:43.000 So, like, everybody I fuck with is all people that I love and that I've been tied into for a long time, and everybody's doing good. 0.72

00:48:50.000 It's rad. 0.97

00:48:51.000 But he does pick up a Lambo.

00:48:53.000 And he goes, hey, is it realistic that I put $60,000 down on it and I'll pay, I don't know if it's $4,000 a month or something, and does that sound reasonable to you? 0.98

00:49:04.000 And I'm like, fuck no, it doesn't sound reasonable. 0.99

00:49:06.000 That's crazy. 0.99

00:49:07.000 $4,000 is an apartment. 0.99

00:49:09.000 Like, my house isn't, like, what the fuck? 0.98

00:49:12.000 That's a mortgage. 0.97

00:49:13.000 That's an apartment in New York City that's awesome. 1.00

00:49:15.000 But I go, you're 33 years old, and you can fucking do that and be, fuck yes, do that. 1.00

00:49:20.000 Live an unreasonable life. 1.00

00:49:21.000 Do that thing.

00:49:22.000 So when I got that money, what happened with that was it seeded these bars, Concrete Cowboy.

00:49:28.000 Mm-hmm.

00:49:28.000 And so we got one in Austin.

00:49:29.000 We got one in Houston.

00:49:30.000 In five weeks, we'll open.

00:49:31.000 We got one in Dallas.

00:49:32.000 And it's paid back like six times what we invested.

00:49:35.000 But I gave that money going, I don't have any more money in the world. 1.00

00:49:38.000 And fuck it. 0.99

00:49:39.000 I've been broke before. 1.00

00:49:40.000 Here's my money. 1.00

00:49:41.000 And fuck it. 1.00

00:49:41.000 I knew that Rico would take care of it. 1.00

00:49:43.000 I knew he'd be a good steward of it.

00:49:44.000 And if it didn't work, it didn't work and whatever. 0.99

00:49:46.000 And like that being free about it and like I did a couple things like it made me go the money is not you it doesn't matter like that's a replaceable commodity that's nothing and and also it's like I've been rolling the dice my whole life so let's roll the dice and then we fucking just started taking off with that then three years later motherfuckers driving a Lamborghini. 0.98

00:50:06.000 It's fucking rad, dude. 0.98

00:50:08.000 It's rad. 1.00

00:50:09.000 Lamborghinis are shitboxes, though. 0.91

00:50:10.000 Tell him those things are going to break down. 0.98

00:50:12.000 You know what he says?

00:50:13.000 What?

00:50:13.000 He's like, you just roll it for two years, and then you can sell it back.

00:50:16.000 You can make money on it.

00:50:18.000 I said, then what?

00:50:19.000 He says, well, then you're just in the flip.

00:50:20.000 Then you got a Lamborghini every year.

00:50:22.000 You get a new one every year.

00:50:23.000 I'm like, I don't want to do that.

00:50:25.000 What I want to do is I want to get one of those Icon 4x4s.

00:50:28.000 If I'm going to spend $200,000, it's not even that.

00:50:30.000 I had this 65 Riviera that I want to do.

00:50:32.000 Have you seen the Broncos?

00:50:32.000 Yeah.

00:50:33.000 But I called that dude before he was on your show.

00:50:35.000 Johnson Ward?

00:50:36.000 Yeah, and I emailed him, and then he called me back.

00:50:38.000 I go, hey, Rad!

00:50:39.000 I'm like, this guy's calling me.

00:50:41.000 And he must have thought I had some Jay Leno money or something.

00:50:44.000 He's like, oh yeah, I used to work with guys in your field or whatever.

00:50:46.000 I'm like, what is my field?

00:50:49.000 Like, I don't even really know.

00:50:50.000 And he's like, well, an actor.

00:50:52.000 And I go, oh, okay, cool.

00:50:53.000 And he's like, yeah, to redo your rivi, it'd be like, you know, around $400. 0.98

00:50:58.000 I'm like, I'm like, you're talking the wrong fucking guy. 0.98

00:51:01.000 $400,000. 0.99

00:51:02.000 I'm like, that is crazy.

00:51:04.000 What did he want to do to it?

00:51:05.000 I don't know.

00:51:05.000 Ground up, like, you know, the whole digitized and redo the whole undercarriage and the whole brake system and the steering, you know.

00:51:12.000 $400,000.

00:51:14.000 I don't know.

00:51:14.000 But anyway, if you guys can come in under $400, holler at your boy.

00:51:19.000 Tate Fletcher on Instagram.

00:51:22.000 Because those Broncos are two. 0.99

00:51:25.000 He does those Broncos, and they're done to the tits. 1.00

00:51:28.000 He's got those, though, and then he's got the Reformers. 0.91

00:51:33.000 They're different price points, and I think if you bring your own box of hazards to him, he probably thinks about it a different way.

00:51:39.000 Who knows?

00:51:40.000 Well, he does a bunch of different kinds of cars, but one of the coolest ones he does is those old Toyota Land Cruisers.

00:51:46.000 He takes those FJ-62s.

00:51:49.000 They don't even look that cool.

00:51:51.000 And then he puts a Corvette engine in them. 0.87

00:51:54.000 He puts a modern LS Corvette engine in them and fucking completely redoes the suspension. 0.54

00:51:59.000 He's got a big power wagon or something, too. 0.91

00:51:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.91

00:51:59.000 You see that one, that white one? 0.91

00:52:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:01.000 I like that with all that billeted fucking steel. 1.00

00:52:03.000 That one's stupid expensive. 1.00

00:52:05.000 Dude. 1.00

00:52:05.000 That one's way into the twos. 1.00

00:52:08.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 Like high twos.

00:52:09.000 There's a used one I saw on YouTube or on eBay or somewhere.

00:52:12.000 Oh, yeah?

00:52:13.000 It was like 140 they were asking for.

00:52:15.000 One of his?

00:52:15.000 Really?

00:52:15.000 Yeah.

00:52:16.000 Wow.

00:52:16.000 That's a bargain.

00:52:17.000 But a diesel fucking... 1.00

00:52:18.000 Diesel? 1.00

00:52:19.000 Awesome.

00:52:19.000 A diesel power wagon?

00:52:20.000 Really?

00:52:21.000 Yeah.

00:52:21.000 See, he does amazing stuff.

00:52:23.000 That guy is a real craftsman.

00:52:25.000 He's a real engineer.

00:52:26.000 Yeah.

00:52:26.000 And an astute eye.

00:52:28.000 Well, I'll take you to his place if you want to go and check it out.

00:52:31.000 I called him.

00:52:31.000 I was like, when are you there?

00:52:32.000 He's like, oh, next week or whatever.

00:52:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:52:33.000 Let's go together.

00:52:33.000 Come with me.

00:52:34.000 I'll go with you.

00:52:34.000 Okay.

00:52:35.000 Because he's doing a Blazer now.

00:52:36.000 A K5 Blazer. 0.96

00:52:37.000 Those old Chevy Blazers.

00:52:38.000 I love those.

00:52:39.000 If he's going to do it, it's going to be insane. 1.00

00:52:41.000 Fuck yeah. 0.98

00:52:41.000 He's going to do an icon version of the Blazer, so he's going to completely update the suspension and all the components. 0.98

00:52:47.000 But yeah, man, his customers are just rich as fuck. 0.99

00:52:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:52:52.000 Those are the kind of people he does. 1.00

00:52:53.000 Well, it is the Jay Lunas of the world and all that. 0.98

00:52:55.000 Yeah.

00:52:56.000 I mean, I heard him on your show, and he was like, yeah, Dana wanted one, but he didn't want to wait or whatever. 1.00

00:53:00.000 And I'm like, holy fuck. 0.99

00:53:01.000 Yeah, it takes over a year. 0.99

00:53:03.000 I mean, he has full-time employees working on your car for over a year.

00:53:08.000 I mean, that's why it costs $200,000.

00:53:10.000 But when you go there, you get it.

00:53:12.000 Like, when I went to his shop, I'm like, oh, I get it.

00:53:15.000 He's like, yeah, you could cut a lot of corners here and there and have it look the same and cost $100,000. 0.99

00:53:22.000 But this fucking guy is doing everything. 0.99

00:53:24.000 Yep. 1.00

00:53:24.000 What is the best bolt that I can get? 1.00

00:53:27.000 What's the best brakes?

00:53:27.000 He's standing by his stuff.

00:53:29.000 It's not like you're driving off the thing at West Coast Customs or something like that or wherever it is.

00:53:33.000 And it's like, yeah, see, and if you've got a problem, come on back.

00:53:36.000 That's a dude that cares about every piece that comes through.

00:53:40.000 Oh, no.

00:53:41.000 Not only does he just care, that guy, if he doesn't care, he won't build it.

00:53:45.000 Right.

00:53:46.000 He won't build it.

00:53:46.000 That's a beautiful thing.

00:53:47.000 If he's not excited about it.

00:53:48.000 When he said no to Dana, it's like, how huge is saying no?

00:53:54.000 Well, if Dana wants one of those Broncos, all he has to do is wait around and say, contact me whenever you got one for sale.

00:54:01.000 Bronco number one just went up for sale.

00:54:03.000 He could throw money in an account and go, here, I'll prepay for it.

00:54:06.000 Just holler in a year when it's done or whatever.

00:54:09.000 You're still going to want it in a year.

00:54:10.000 Impatient.

00:54:11.000 You're still going to want it.

00:54:12.000 Next year, he'll be like, can I get one now?

00:54:14.000 Well, you could have if you would have given me money last year.

00:54:17.000 But now it's another year.

00:54:18.000 Yeah.

00:54:19.000 Well, it's more now.

00:54:20.000 I think he's in a 2018. That's the thing about getting better at anything.

00:54:24.000 It's like, there's going to come a day when you want to get better. 0.98

00:54:28.000 Fucking do it now. 0.98

00:54:29.000 Like, that was one of the best, like, one of the, so many, coaching, like, sports has given me so much, but, um, Mike Vandarsdale one time, he would do, like, guided meditation sometimes after practice, and so there's fucking 40 sweaty guys laying on the mats. 0.98

00:54:45.000 He'd turn the lights off in the gym at Jackson's, and, uh, And he'd go, hey, I know you guys, we did a lot of technical wrestling today, and you'd think, hey, I'm young, there's a lot of time, and I'll be able to get this, I'll put this together, I'll piece it together, I got a little better today.

00:55:00.000 He says, I just want you to consider that there's a guy that's demanding to be better right now.

00:55:05.000 There's a guy that knows he needs to get it today, and you're going to have to fight that guy. 1.00

00:55:09.000 So he's like, fucking turn your fucking learning curve up. 0.98

00:55:11.000 He would really speak into that kind of a voice of going, it's not just, ooh, when it happens, it happens. 1.00

00:55:18.000 It's like, demand that you get better now.

00:55:20.000 And that's a powerful way to look at stuff.

00:55:22.000 I think that's some wrestling mentality, man. 0.99

00:55:25.000 Those wrestlers are fucking, that's a different breed of guy. 0.99

00:55:27.000 They're like, I need to do this now. 0.99

00:55:28.000 Well, I think you have that with boxers, you have that with kickboxing, you have that with anybody who is just fanatical about improvement.

00:55:35.000 You have to have that insane, insane, just the drive to perfection and belief.

00:55:42.000 But you've got to be obsessed, man.

00:55:44.000 If you're not obsessed, you're not going to beat the guy who's obsessed. 0.97

00:55:47.000 I remember when I saw fucking Jon Jones when he first came down. 0.93

00:55:49.000 The first time I'd ever seen him was when... 0.97

00:55:51.000 I never knew anything about him until he beat up Stefan Bonner. 0.99

00:55:54.000 And I was live at that fight and I was like, holy fuck. 0.99

00:55:57.000 And he was just learning back then. 1.00

00:55:58.000 He didn't know.

00:55:59.000 And the throws...

00:56:00.000 I was like...

00:56:01.000 And Stefan's is maybe bigger than me. 0.99

00:56:03.000 He's fucking... 0.99

00:56:04.000 Not small. 1.00

00:56:06.000 He's good.

00:56:06.000 He's adept at everything.

00:56:08.000 And he's hitting them with elbows like they're jabs and knees and then throwing them like...

00:56:12.000 Anytime he'd get close to them, throw them. 0.99

00:56:13.000 And I was like, holy fuck. 1.00

00:56:15.000 And then... 0.99

00:56:16.000 I don't know, a month or two months later, he came to Jackson's, and he's there, and I'm like, I was like, hey, and I knew he wrestled.

00:56:21.000 I knew a bunch of tough wrestlers from New York, and I was like, where'd you learn Muay Thai, though?

00:56:26.000 Because Tom Watson, he'd just gotten back from a Dutch kickboxing camp, and dudes go to Thailand all the time, and there's all that, and And he goes, YouTube. 0.98

00:56:38.000 What the fuck? 0.93

00:56:41.000 Like, dudes are dying and you're just like... 1.00

00:56:43.000 He's like, well, I look at it and I go, huh?

00:56:45.000 And then I believe. 1.00

00:56:46.000 And I'm like, holy fuck. 1.00

00:56:48.000 Like, no proper training. 1.00

00:56:50.000 He just watches shit on a video and he's like, don't watch The Matrix. 1.00

00:56:54.000 He's a special talent. 1.00

00:56:55.000 He is a special talent.

00:56:56.000 Well, I think one of the problems with John is that he absolutely has worked hard, but it has come way easier for him than it has for other people.

00:57:04.000 And I think part of that is because he grew up with two super athletes for brothers.

00:57:08.000 Can't even imagine. 1.00

00:57:09.000 You're just getting your ass kicked all the time in your house by giant super athletes. 1.00

00:57:14.000 Both his brothers are NFL fucking all-stars. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:57:16.000 He's got two super athletes. 0.99

00:57:19.000 Triple E's joke about it is hilarious.

00:57:22.000 Whatever comes out of there, just Nike should sponsor.

00:57:25.000 They should sponsor John's mom.

00:57:27.000 They're all super athletes.

00:57:28.000 It's so true. 0.84

00:57:29.000 It's so true. 0.84

00:57:30.000 I mean, his level...

00:57:33.000 It's just like right out of the box.

00:57:35.000 They used to beat him up or whatever.

00:57:36.000 He's like, I'm not the toughest one in my family.

00:57:38.000 He's the least toughest. 1.00

00:57:39.000 My brothers will beat my ass. 1.00

00:57:40.000 The younger brother. 1.00

00:57:41.000 His younger brother beats his ass. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Like his younger brother was talking about it like in an interview. 1.00

00:57:45.000 They asked him for TMZ. And he's like, I'll beat his ass right now. 1.00

00:57:48.000 I was like, what the fuck, man? 1.00

00:57:50.000 Remember when he watched... 1.00

00:57:52.000 When he choked Lyoto?

00:57:54.000 Mm-hmm.

00:57:54.000 And I'm like, he doesn't even really know how to...

00:57:57.000 Like, I'm looking at that...

00:57:58.000 Or when he choked Bader.

00:57:59.000 I'm like, that's not...

00:58:00.000 Well, the Lyoto choke was a great choke because he knows how to push... 1.00

00:58:03.000 He knows how to cover the head.

00:58:05.000 He covers the head, but also he pushes...

00:58:08.000 Yeah.

00:58:08.000 The arm, you know, he pushes his palm back that way.

00:58:11.000 He's just learning.

00:58:12.000 He can seize that up.

00:58:12.000 He's learning in these moments.

00:58:14.000 He's so strong.

00:58:15.000 He's so strong.

00:58:16.000 I was like, like Bader, he looked great against Rashad.

00:58:19.000 He looked like a different athlete.

00:58:21.000 But he's a different athlete over the last four fights, Bader is.

00:58:23.000 Yeah.

00:58:23.000 He's been amazing.

00:58:24.000 But back then, when he just relied on wrestling, that John Jones fight, when do you see a sun-kissed kid wrestler pull half guard?

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 And he just was like, I don't want to get in a bad position.

00:58:37.000 Maybe I can hang on to this.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, he was just overwhelmed, I think, too.

00:58:40.000 And I mean, that's the kind of power that he'd never felt.

00:58:43.000 And that's a huge...

00:58:44.000 Top of the food chain wrestler.

00:58:46.000 Which shows you how special John is.

00:58:50.000 Like, look at how good Glover Teixeira has looked against everybody else but John. 0.98

00:58:54.000 Well, Phil Davis did beat his ass, but Phil Davis beat his ass when he was fighting out of Connecticut, and his shoulder was all fucked up from the John Jones fight, and there's a lot of things wrong with his camp. 0.97

00:59:05.000 I really think that Glover has the right mentality, too, as far as, like... 0.99

00:59:16.000 Yeah, but Glover was like, that was one of the fascinating things about that fight.

00:59:19.000 Glover was like loading up on shots and John was just aware of everything.

00:59:23.000 He's like, nope.

00:59:23.000 You can't fight him like that.

00:59:24.000 I think guys are looking like they want to put him away and it's like, it's not...

00:59:28.000 He sees too much to be able to do that.

00:59:30.000 You have to really...

00:59:31.000 How are you going to surprise him with one shot you're not?

00:59:33.000 It's incredible, though, when you think about that.

00:59:35.000 It's incredible that he has that sort of awareness with a relatively small amount of time striking.

00:59:41.000 Yep.

00:59:42.000 I mean, when you consider his entire life, in fact, he's only 27, wins the title at 23, you know?

00:59:48.000 Yeah, the growth is...

00:59:49.000 Is it 22 or 23 that he won the title?

00:59:51.000 I think it was 22. I think so.

00:59:53.000 I mean...

00:59:54.000 I hate what happened with him.

00:59:56.000 I hate to see a guy run into that classic cliche of partying and just messing up his life and then the hit and run. 1.00

01:00:09.000 It's like, God damn. 0.98

01:00:10.000 I think it's that youth stuff, you know? 0.99

01:00:11.000 And it's the thing that, like, I would just ask everybody to be gracious looking at it in that way because... 1.00

01:00:18.000 It's shit that maybe not everybody does, but a lot of young dudes, you go through that shit. 0.99

01:00:22.000 And he went through it at a little later time, maybe, but away public time. 1.00

01:00:27.000 I think that's the thing.

01:00:28.000 When you're so publicized like that, people are going to see all your warts.

01:00:32.000 And there's nobody that's walking without warts.

01:00:34.000 That's one of the problems with the way we view, I think, politics.

01:00:37.000 I think everything.

01:00:38.000 It's like... 0.99

01:00:40.000 Before the internet, all those politicians are pretending that they didn't fuck kids or have affairs or do blow or whatever. 1.00

01:00:47.000 Fuck kids? 1.00

01:00:47.000 Who can bust the fuck out kids? 1.00

01:00:49.000 That's Jared. 0.98

01:00:51.000 I know what you're saying.

01:00:52.000 That kind of thing.

01:00:54.000 When you live with transparency, we have a lot more transparency now.

01:00:58.000 There are no cover-ups of scandals, except 9-11.

01:01:02.000 What?

01:01:03.000 What about chemtrails?

01:01:05.000 Black helicopters.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:08.000 I wonder if it's going to change politics in the future, if people are going to be forced to just be human.

01:01:13.000 And that's the thing.

01:01:15.000 And grow and be a real person.

01:01:16.000 Because that speech-type style of delivery where they're not real, you know, that they do.

01:01:22.000 You know, ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.

01:01:25.000 Sure.

01:01:25.000 My fellow Americans, today is a day that will live in infamy.

01:01:30.000 There's a bunch of speech writers that have this template, and they want to put that template onto this.

01:01:34.000 It's also like the tone, the way they speak, it's all fake.

01:01:39.000 And I always wonder, like, are we going to come to a point in time where a guy gets on stage or a woman gets on stage as the president and speaks like a human and says, here's our situation.

01:01:50.000 This is where we're at.

01:01:51.000 We have a real problem with Syria. 1.00

01:01:54.000 I'll do that.

01:01:55.000 What you gonna run for president with Kanye West?

01:01:58.000 I think, well...

01:01:59.000 You and Kanye? 1.00

01:02:00.000 You could fuck Kanye up in debates. 1.00

01:02:02.000 Well, for sure. 1.00

01:02:03.000 You would run trains on that dude in debates.

01:02:06.000 A train...

01:02:07.000 He would try to talk over you.

01:02:08.000 It has a connotation that I would do with other guys.

01:02:10.000 You'd be like, I think I gave you your time, sir.

01:02:11.000 That'd be awesome.

01:02:12.000 I'm not Taylor Swift.

01:02:13.000 That would be awesome.

01:02:17.000 I feel like we take a lot for granted from old ideas.

01:02:21.000 It goes back to Pauly Shore going, nobody knows how to do it.

01:02:24.000 There's no path.

01:02:25.000 You make your own path, right?

01:02:27.000 That's the thing, because Pauly came from stand-up, and there's absolutely no path in stand-up.

01:02:32.000 Because at least with acting, you're going in for a role. 0.99

01:02:35.000 Why don't you fucking do it? 0.99

01:02:36.000 I'm going to go onto some open mics. 0.99

01:02:37.000 Tate Fletcher, let's do it.

01:02:40.000 Bravo wants to do it again.

01:02:41.000 Oh, really?

01:02:42.000 Yeah, he's down.

01:02:42.000 He wants to do it again.

01:02:43.000 Cool.

01:02:44.000 I had Eddie do it.

01:02:46.000 Remember those days?

01:02:47.000 Like eight times?

01:02:48.000 Yeah.

01:02:48.000 What did he say?

01:02:49.000 Well, he was like, I had this joke that I thought was just awesome and it was about hookers and it just didn't come out.

01:02:56.000 You know the one.

01:02:59.000 Anyway, you look at all these old ideas that people have and even this whole stigma of, well, we have low attention span.

01:03:06.000 We're looking at it wherever my phone is.

01:03:08.000 We're looking at our phones all the time.

01:03:09.000 This and that. 0.62

01:03:10.000 But you look at that and you go, okay, if I were a corporate Media thing and I wanted to put out a fucking new entertainment thing and it's going to be anywhere from an hour to three hours long and it's just going to be guys talking.

01:03:24.000 Any corporation would be like, that's never going to catch on.

01:03:26.000 We need sound bites.

01:03:27.000 We need MTV news. 0.78

01:03:29.000 And you look at podcasts and you look at what they are and people are fucking more invested in that because it's real.

01:03:35.000 Because there's authentic voices to it.

01:03:37.000 Well, you know, that was one of the number one things that people said to me when I first started out.

01:03:41.000 Like, you can't do three-hour podcasts.

01:03:43.000 Right.

01:03:44.000 And I go, why not?

01:03:45.000 And they said, well, because no one's going to listen in three hours.

01:03:48.000 I go, well, they don't have to.

01:03:49.000 Right.

01:03:49.000 You could just shut it off.

01:03:50.000 Like, I don't get it.

01:03:51.000 Like, Ari and me had, like, an argument about it. 0.99

01:03:54.000 As long as we're just having fun, who gives a fuck? 0.99

01:03:56.000 Ari was adamant about it. 0.98

01:03:57.000 You have to edit your podcast.

01:03:59.000 I'm just telling you right now.

01:04:00.000 You have to edit your podcast.

01:04:01.000 I go, why?

01:04:02.000 He goes, because it's too long.

01:04:03.000 I go, so what?

01:04:03.000 What does that mean?

01:04:05.000 Why do I have to edit it?

01:04:06.000 And also, more importantly, is that a road that you've walked?

01:04:09.000 You have experience with yours being too long?

01:04:11.000 Well, everybody was comparing it to a show.

01:04:13.000 But nobody had any experience at all.

01:04:15.000 But they thought about it like a Comedy Central show, like an hour-long show.

01:04:18.000 Which then speaks to the thing about...

01:04:20.000 Old stuff.

01:04:21.000 Old ideas.

01:04:22.000 You've got to put away your old ideas if you want to be on the tip of the spear.

01:04:25.000 Well, also, don't you think...

01:04:26.000 I mean, my point of view was like, you and I, long before we ever did podcasts...

01:04:31.000 We always had these conversations before a show or after a show or hanging out. 0.97

01:04:35.000 We would talk for fucking hours. 0.99

01:04:37.000 Hours and hours. 1.00

01:04:38.000 And it seemed to me like a half hour into the conversation or 45 minutes, shit just started getting cooking. 0.99

01:04:44.000 And then an hour in later, we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah! 0.97

01:04:47.000 And then the stories come out.

01:04:49.000 I remember this one time.

01:04:51.000 And those are the fun conversations for me. 0.99

01:04:53.000 And as you get to know each other, and then you make that into an audience, and then fuck, then they get to know you. 0.98

01:04:57.000 And then there's not all this... 0.98

01:05:03.000 These barriers between us all.

01:05:04.000 We all see our similarities and there's less dissension.

01:05:07.000 There's less animosity.

01:05:09.000 There's more understanding.

01:05:10.000 There's more graciousness and generosity.

01:05:12.000 And if we could get that way with everybody, if everybody felt that way instead of this corporate dominion, here's what CNN says that we need this to be.

01:05:20.000 You have direct feedback from other people about what you're doing.

01:05:23.000 And that feedback has been super valuable to me, man.

01:05:27.000 Even the negative stuff.

01:05:28.000 The negative stuff.

01:05:28.000 Nobody likes to hear criticisms about what they do, but if you consider it and find, well, is there any truth in that?

01:05:34.000 You could find out a lot about your style of interviewing people or talking to people, where you make mistakes.

01:05:41.000 No one's perfect.

01:05:43.000 You're not going to have a podcast that every word comes out perfect.

01:05:48.000 It's just not possible.

01:05:50.000 You're freeballing.

01:05:51.000 Even when you do your ads.

01:05:52.000 Yeah, I freeball them.

01:05:53.000 How much do you stumble on?

01:05:54.000 All the time. 0.99

01:05:54.000 And it doesn't fucking matter. 0.99

01:05:55.000 But if somebody were directing you, they would say it matters. 0.97

01:05:59.000 They would want you to do it again.

01:06:00.000 Do it again.

01:06:00.000 We're going to do it again.

01:06:01.000 I mean, sometimes I have to do it again.

01:06:03.000 Sure.

01:06:04.000 But the reality is that this medium is new.

01:06:09.000 And no one had it before.

01:06:11.000 And this medium is like they gave these kids the controls.

01:06:16.000 Like they gave these kids the ability to broadcast a radio show.

01:06:18.000 And then they just did it their way.

01:06:20.000 And then they go, well, why don't I just start talking?

01:06:24.000 Let's just see what happens if we don't have commercials in the middle of it.

01:06:26.000 That becomes the thing. 0.99

01:06:27.000 As long as you're having fun as the person involved in it, who gives a fuck? 0.95

01:06:32.000 It doesn't matter what the result is in a way. 0.97

01:06:35.000 It's kind of like...

01:06:38.000 We're good to go.

01:06:56.000 And so if you step on stage, you've got an increased amount... 1.00

01:06:59.000 It's not like you're in your living room in front of your mirror trying to say a fucking joke. 0.98

01:07:02.000 It means something different so you grow more in that competition. 0.99

01:07:05.000 The seconds mean more, the fucking moments mean more, all of that stuff. 0.96

01:07:09.000 And you don't get that if you're not willing to throw it out and expose yourself live. 0.98

01:07:13.000 And that's like putting this live on the internet.

01:07:15.000 That's a huge exposure.

01:07:16.000 And either you're an authentic person that's got something or you don't.

01:07:19.000 And it becomes...

01:07:20.000 I think it's super visible and I think it's super important We all get to that instead of all these masks that we wear all the time.

01:07:28.000 And to me, it doesn't matter.

01:07:31.000 It's like Ari saying that.

01:07:34.000 I know he feels differently now.

01:07:35.000 He laughs about it now.

01:07:38.000 So does that mean that you don't have a conversation that's more than 15 minutes with your friend?

01:07:42.000 It's not even a 15 minute thing.

01:07:44.000 It's just like he thought it had to be like an hour because a show is an hour.

01:07:48.000 But not a real hour, 42 minutes because we've got to have time for commercials.

01:07:50.000 Yeah, there's that, too. 0.99

01:07:52.000 Well, they also, most people do the commercials in the middle of shit, too. 0.99

01:07:55.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:07:56.000 You know, and I was like, man, I tried, you ever, you watch that show, uh, there's a new Fear of the Walking Dead?

01:08:02.000 It's the new Walking Dead?

01:08:02.000 No, I've seen an ad for it.

01:08:03.000 Dope.

01:08:04.000 Really?

01:08:05.000 Dope.

01:08:05.000 It's so good.

01:08:06.000 I thought The Walking Dead was gonna be shit, and I watched it, and I was like, and then I watched, like, six or ten episodes, and I was like, this is stupid. 0.99

01:08:14.000 It's the same episode over again, and then I watched another 20 episodes. 0.99

01:08:16.000 I just couldn't stop watching it no matter.

01:08:18.000 Well, you know what?

01:08:19.000 Fear the Walking Dead is interesting because it's less special effects, you got less zombies, and it's better.

01:08:25.000 And the way it's shot, it's shot so well. 0.99

01:08:28.000 Whoever the director is, and whoever the cinematographer is, or the camera director, they're bad motherfuckers. 0.99

01:08:35.000 It's done so well. 0.99

01:08:36.000 It's done like a really good movie.

01:08:38.000 That's cool. 0.98

01:08:39.000 And there's very few cut-the-shit moments in it. 0.97

01:08:41.000 It's really good, man. 0.95

01:08:42.000 Dude, this new show that's coming out?

01:08:44.000 Is Westworld, this HBO show with Anthony Hopkins.

01:08:47.000 Is that like the old movie with Yul Brynner? 1.00

01:08:49.000 Yeah, same shit. 0.99

01:08:51.000 Ed Harris and Anthony Hopkins are in it. 1.00

01:08:52.000 See, that's HBO. What I was going to say is, I watched that show the other day for the first time.

01:08:56.000 I usually watch it on Apple TV, whatever it is.

01:09:00.000 Apple TV? Yeah.

01:09:01.000 The other night I watched it on TV TV, and I sat through the fucking commercials. 1.00

01:09:05.000 I can't do that shit. 1.00

01:09:06.000 I can't do commercials. 1.00

01:09:07.000 It's ruthless.

01:09:08.000 I mean, and that's the thing, is TV is going away.

01:09:10.000 It's all going to go just digitized. 0.72

01:09:12.000 But why can't they have, like, whoever the fuck is paying for all those commercials, right? 0.99

01:09:15.000 Why don't they have, make a big deal out of it, say, uh, fucking... 0.99

01:09:21.000 Ram Trucks. 0.99

01:09:22.000 Ram Trucks is gonna sponsor the whole fucking episode, okay? 0.98

01:09:25.000 We're gonna have one commercial in the beginning. 0.98

01:09:28.000 Ram Trucks is proud to present Fear of the Walking Dead. 0.99

01:09:31.000 Just do it as a goddamn, just a test. 1.00

01:09:33.000 And make them dope. 1.00

01:09:35.000 Make a dope commercial.

01:09:36.000 Make everyone the Super Bowl commercial. 1.00

01:09:37.000 How about make one, yeah, make one where a guy in a fucking Ram truck is running over zombies. 1.00

01:09:41.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:42.000 Crushing their heads and fucking headed off into the distance. 1.00

01:09:44.000 See, this is the thing though. 1.00

01:09:45.000 Getting ahead while he's driving.

01:09:46.000 It's old ideas.

01:09:47.000 We need to start a production company.

01:09:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:09:50.000 What else do we need to do?

01:09:51.000 We need to do something else.

01:09:52.000 Oh, we need to make a little 15-minute kids' commercials.

01:09:56.000 I guess we're going to need that, too, yeah.

01:09:58.000 Kids' short films.

01:10:00.000 We need a ranch in New Mexico. 0.75

01:10:02.000 New Mexico, that's the spot?

01:10:03.000 That's a good spot.

01:10:04.000 But Colorado's good, too.

01:10:06.000 Colorado's pretty beautiful. 0.79

01:10:07.000 And nice and game-rich and not all fucked up with pollution yet. 0.64

01:10:11.000 And weed's free and legal there.

01:10:13.000 And weed's free and legal, if that's your thing, you know?

01:10:15.000 That's my thing.

01:10:16.000 I like free and legal no matter what.

01:10:18.000 I don't have any use for weed, and I love it free and legal.

01:10:20.000 Yeah, I would like it if everything was free and legal.

01:10:24.000 We need less laws.

01:10:25.000 We do.

01:10:25.000 We need less laws, less people enforcing those laws, and more common sense.

01:10:30.000 More common sense, more freedom, more allowing people to do whatever the fuck they want, as long as it doesn't hurt people. 0.97

01:10:36.000 And then put restrictions on shit that does hurt people that's not in place right now. 0.99

01:10:41.000 Like, financial shit. 0.99

01:10:42.000 How about the fact that none of those guys that caused the financial crash of 2008 are in jail? 1.00

01:10:46.000 That's so crazy.

01:10:47.000 How about that?

01:10:48.000 That's the whole thing about being accountable.

01:10:50.000 I don't hang out with... 0.98

01:10:52.000 If you weren't accountable for your actions or responsible, I wouldn't fucking hang out with you. 0.93

01:10:57.000 It's the kind of thing that's like, why would I accept... 0.93

01:11:01.000 Less from my politicians or from anybody that is not going to be accountable.

01:11:06.000 It's like everybody's got to be held accountable. 0.98

01:11:07.000 And that's the way good shit works. 0.99

01:11:09.000 That's the way you improve. 1.00

01:11:11.000 If I start fucking Nuevo Cerveza and it's a shit product or we don't do due diligence in marketing or whatever the fucking thing is and it fails, nobody's fucking bailing me out and I could put all my money into that and go broke. 0.99

01:11:22.000 That could be the thing. 1.00

01:11:24.000 But GM, they have a failing business model and we're going to go ahead and write them a check for a trillion. 1.00

01:11:29.000 What the fuck is that? 0.99

01:11:31.000 Oh, you mean like the bailouts? 1.00

01:11:32.000 All that shit. 0.99

01:11:33.000 It's like, that doesn't make any sense. 1.00

01:11:35.000 All that too-big-to-fail shit, shit shouldn't be too big to fail. 0.99

01:11:38.000 Well, they did pay back all those loans, though, and they are profitable now, and they have improved and made incredible vehicles now, so I see your point in some ways. 1.00

01:11:47.000 You gotta let shit die. 0.99

01:11:48.000 Yeah, but goddammit, then they'd have no 2016 Corvette, and that thing's pretty sick. 1.00

01:11:53.000 Who needs a Corvette? 1.00

01:11:54.000 How dare you? 1.00

01:11:56.000 You are a douche fucking nozzle. 1.00

01:11:58.000 Stop it. 1.00

01:11:59.000 That's not a real Corvette.

01:12:01.000 That's an old school Corvette.

01:12:02.000 It's not like one of these that's brand new off the lot.

01:12:05.000 Oh, here's my 1987 Corvette.

01:12:07.000 Like, stop all that.

01:12:08.000 87?

01:12:10.000 1987?

01:12:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:12:11.000 That's the dark years. 0.99

01:12:12.000 They're all dark years after fucking 1972. Yeah, until about 2013, 2014. The newer ones are pretty dope, dude. 0.98

01:12:22.000 You can't ever...

01:12:22.000 Your boy with the Lamborghini?

01:12:24.000 I'd take a Corvette over a Lamborghini.

01:12:25.000 No way.

01:12:26.000 Yes, sir.

01:12:27.000 You know why I wouldn't?

01:12:28.000 Why?

01:12:28.000 Resale, and then I would buy a truck.

01:12:30.000 And a house.

01:12:31.000 How about America?

01:12:33.000 Keep America strong?

01:12:34.000 You know what the best thing about Keep America Strong is?

01:12:37.000 What did they pull the NASA space shuttle with?

01:12:43.000 What did they pull?

01:12:44.000 Toyota?

01:12:44.000 Toyota Tundra?

01:12:45.000 Oh, no, they didn't.

01:12:46.000 Did they?

01:12:47.000 Yeah.

01:12:48.000 That's awful.

01:12:48.000 100% awesome.

01:12:50.000 It's a good truck, though.

01:12:51.000 I'm like, how did that get through?

01:12:52.000 Toyotas are good trucks.

01:12:53.000 You have a Coyota.

01:12:54.000 Yeah, that's my favorite.

01:12:56.000 That Tacoma.

01:12:56.000 They don't break.

01:12:57.000 They don't ever break.

01:12:59.000 They're coming out with a diesel, too, I heard.

01:13:01.000 Well, that's why everybody fell in love with those Land Cruisers.

01:13:04.000 That's what they used to say in Africa.

01:13:05.000 If you want to get into the bush, you bring a Range Rover.

01:13:07.000 You want to get out, you bring a Land Cruiser.

01:13:09.000 That's crazy.

01:13:09.000 And that's why I love that dude John because he's like all about making it last forever instead of all these like I'd love to have a Mercedes or BMW or something like now that I'm able to it'd be great except that I'm not I just can't fucking buy something that's gonna crap out in 60,000 miles they all have an expiration date where there's like now there's real problems forever with the rest you know and I don't I don't it doesn't need to be that way I don't want to support that kind of culture that's rape culture to me how dare you yeah that's That's why I like those Lexus trucks.

01:13:37.000 I got that Lexus.

01:13:38.000 I like Infiniti's.

01:13:40.000 Those are dope and they last forever too.

01:13:42.000 They are not as good.

01:13:43.000 They look good.

01:13:43.000 I've had that and I've had the Lexus.

01:13:45.000 The Lexus is a better truck.

01:13:47.000 I had a Lexus and then I got an Infiniti and then I got...

01:13:50.000 Have you seen my new one?

01:13:51.000 I haven't seen it.

01:13:52.000 It's dope. 0.55

01:13:53.000 It's a spaceship.

01:13:53.000 Yeah, I'll show you.

01:13:54.000 Oh.

01:13:54.000 They make awesome trucks, man.

01:13:56.000 They make awesome trucks.

01:13:58.000 Also, the Lexus trucks, they're actual real four-wheel drive trucks because it's based off the Land Cruiser platform.

01:14:03.000 So they raise up.

01:14:04.000 They have locking differentials. 0.94

01:14:07.000 Like, if the shit hits the fan, you could actually go off-roading with a Land Cruiser. 0.98

01:14:11.000 You could go off-roading with a Lexus LX570. It's the same car. 0.99

01:14:15.000 It's the same as a Land Cruiser. 0.92

01:14:16.000 But there's a lot of electronic shit that the old ones didn't have. 0.99

01:14:19.000 The old ones, what people liked about them is you could just drive those motherfuckers through the desert, take them over a mountain. 0.99

01:14:24.000 They're so durable. 0.98

01:14:27.000 And Jonathan Ward, what he does to them makes them way more durable.

01:14:30.000 He puts polyurea coating over the entire floor of the car. 0.99

01:14:34.000 That shit is never rusting through, ever. 0.98

01:14:36.000 He puts these rock sliders on the side of them that also act as side impact beams. 1.00

01:14:43.000 Somebody hits you from the side, he puts solid steel bumpers on him, American-made bumpers, these giant fucking bumpers with a winch, a worn winch to fucking pull you out, 8,000-pound winch to pull you out of fucking trouble. 0.95

01:14:55.000 He's got these jerry cans in the back that carry water. 0.98

01:14:59.000 He puts these...

01:15:03.000 Roof racks on.

01:15:04.000 This is what we need for the ranch.

01:15:05.000 With a ramp on the front so that they don't rattle at speed when you're on the highway.

01:15:10.000 It's so genius what he's doing.

01:15:12.000 The Freedom Ranch.

01:15:12.000 Let's call it the Freedom Ranch.

01:15:13.000 Yes.

01:15:14.000 Somebody probably already took that in Texas.

01:15:15.000 And you know what we do?

01:15:16.000 We call in Tim Kennedy to be our engineer for how to do the security perimeter and what all we need in there exactly to survive.

01:15:24.000 He'd get bored.

01:15:25.000 Well, he wouldn't stay for sure.

01:15:27.000 He'd be like...

01:15:28.000 I'll come visit you guys now and again.

01:15:29.000 I need adventure. 0.99

01:15:31.000 He would have to fucking go off and do something else. 1.00

01:15:33.000 He's like, let's go shoot pigs on a helicopter. 1.00

01:15:35.000 That's the big thing. 1.00

01:15:36.000 I'm like, let's fucking do that. 0.99

01:15:38.000 Is that what he does? 1.00

01:15:38.000 He's crazy. 1.00

01:15:39.000 That's my next trip to Austin. 0.58

01:15:40.000 To go do that?

01:15:41.000 Yeah.

01:15:42.000 Well, that's the thing about Texas.

01:15:44.000 If we want to have a ranch in Texas, they already exist and we have game ranches. 0.98

01:15:48.000 And you can shoot all the pigs you want. 0.98

01:15:50.000 Well, not just pigs. 0.99

01:15:51.000 They bring in all these African animals, and so there's no regulations on them. 1.00

01:15:55.000 They're privately owned.

01:15:56.000 It was one of these high-fence ranches, and they had a lot of that exotic game in there.

01:16:01.000 Axis.

01:16:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:02.000 You know, you want to jump over an airplane?

01:16:05.000 Jump out of an airplane?

01:16:06.000 Yeah.

01:16:06.000 You know the dude from that MTV show just died doing that.

01:16:09.000 I don't know who he is, but my friend Andy Stumpf. 0.99

01:16:13.000 He does wingsuit shit. 1.00

01:16:15.000 Oh, fuck him. 1.00

01:16:16.000 And so he was a SEAL Team 6 guy. 1.00

01:16:18.000 Fuck him and fuck that. 1.00

01:16:19.000 Right? 1.00

01:16:20.000 And he's fucking, he's wild. 1.00

01:16:22.000 You gotta have him on your show. 1.00

01:16:23.000 Would you do that?

01:16:23.000 Would you wingsuit it?

01:16:24.000 I wouldn't wingsuit. 1.00

01:16:25.000 Like, you gotta know some shit. 0.99

01:16:26.000 I have never jumped out of an aircraft. 0.99

01:16:27.000 But he used to teach, he taught my cousin who, he went through BUDS with Andy.

01:16:32.000 Where does he live?

01:16:33.000 Andy was an instructor.

01:16:34.000 He lives in San Diego.

01:16:35.000 Bring him up.

01:16:36.000 You and him together.

01:16:37.000 I will.

01:16:37.000 Does he drink?

01:16:40.000 Oh, yeah, I know he drinks.

01:16:41.000 Maybe he will enjoy some Nuevo Cerveza live from New Mexico. 0.99

01:16:46.000 He does this shit to do the Navy Seal Foundation, and so all the monies go to that. 0.99

01:16:55.000 He's trying to break four records in a single jump. 0.99

01:16:58.000 Yeah, they would love that.

01:16:58.000 I'll just give them money.

01:16:59.000 I don't want to jump in any helicopters.

01:17:02.000 Oh, I do.

01:17:02.000 I'm going to jump out of a plane with them.

01:17:04.000 You know what's really thrilling?

01:17:05.000 Bow hunting.

01:17:05.000 Good enough.

01:17:06.000 That's good too.

01:17:07.000 But you know what, dude? 0.96

01:17:08.000 So another friend of mine, he's this army ranger, and he's fucking, he's retired, he's gone from that, and he's, you know, it's weird, retired and he's 26 or something, but he started fucking around with a bow when he got done. 0.92

01:17:19.000 He's a real, like, he doesn't talk to anybody, he's a real soloist, kind of likes to go sit in the woods by himself and... 0.93

01:17:25.000 And he started messing around with bows.

01:17:27.000 And I go, oh, you shoot a compound bow, or what are you shooting?

01:17:30.000 He goes, no, he makes his own, of course.

01:17:32.000 So we went to recurve, right, first, and then he started making his own.

01:17:36.000 And I go, why is that?

01:17:37.000 He goes, well, because it's like, the other one's like shooting a rifle.

01:17:40.000 He's like, it's just, there's nothing. 0.81

01:17:41.000 He says this, and so he's like, wants to be on horseback and shoot it. 1.00

01:17:46.000 He's a fucking trip. 1.00

01:17:47.000 And deadly as fuck. 1.00

01:17:49.000 Those guys are a trip. 1.00

01:17:50.000 That's some different level shit. 0.99

01:17:51.000 When you talk to those guys that are special operators like that, Like, I'm listening to Andy, and Andy's talking, and he's like... 0.98

01:17:56.000 He's talking about, like, oh, there's a SWAT team guy with us, and he's, like, talking about his MP5, and he's like, why do you have that? 0.99

01:18:03.000 And he's like, that's a fucking useless weapon. 0.98

01:18:06.000 Like, I hit a guy eight times in the chest with that across the room, and he walked into the other room. 1.00

01:18:11.000 I mean, he laid down there, but it's like, he fucking... 0.99

01:18:14.000 He's like, well, I just use it for sport, for target practice. 0.99

01:18:18.000 He's like, oh, well, that's okay then.

01:18:20.000 He's like, you really want to get it?

01:18:21.000 He's like, just right...

01:18:22.000 Just under the eyes and above the teeth, you want to get in that area. 1.00

01:18:26.000 I'm like, holy fuck! 1.00

01:18:30.000 When anybody says above the teeth, you're talking about shooting a person. 1.00

01:18:34.000 Above the teeth. 0.87

01:18:35.000 Oh, God.

01:18:36.000 He's amazing.

01:18:37.000 And you're like, this is one of the kindest, friendliest guys. 1.00

01:18:39.000 And then you hear him, and you're like, holy fuck! 0.99

01:18:41.000 Some of the nicest people I know were special operators. 0.99

01:18:44.000 Some of the nicest people I know.

01:18:45.000 I talked to him, too.

01:18:46.000 I'm like, how come there's...

01:18:48.000 He gave me a real insight into that, about how come there's not...

01:18:54.000 We're good to go.

01:18:56.000 We're good to go.

01:19:04.000 We're good to go.

01:19:15.000 And he goes, for us, we're predators.

01:19:17.000 And we're going out to engage.

01:19:19.000 And so it's a different mindset.

01:19:21.000 You're in a place of either being defensive or offensive.

01:19:24.000 And if you're defensive, you're prey in a way.

01:19:27.000 And you get to be reactive to that.

01:19:28.000 But he's like, we're out hunting.

01:19:30.000 And he's like, also, by the time you get to that level, you're very dialed in about who you are and what you're doing.

01:19:35.000 That makes sense.

01:19:36.000 Which I thought was super interesting.

01:19:37.000 It does make sense. 0.99

01:19:38.000 He's like, it's very, like, because he talked to Tim, too, and Tim's like, like, that shit's not present to him at all. 0.98

01:19:43.000 He's like, yeah, no, I'm fucking good. 0.96

01:19:44.000 Yeah, well, when he was on the podcast, we were talking about it. 0.96

01:19:47.000 He's like, you know, we're talking about people that are throwing acid on girls that were going to school. 0.99

01:19:51.000 He's like, yeah, I kill those guys. 1.00

01:19:53.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:54.000 And when you say it like that, I'm right there with you.

01:19:57.000 Yep.

01:19:58.000 If I was there, I get it.

01:19:59.000 I get it 100%.

01:20:00.000 And that's the type of guys you want. 1.00

01:20:03.000 Fuck yes. 1.00

01:20:04.000 But there's not a lot of those guys out there. 1.00

01:20:05.000 No. 0.94

01:20:05.000 There's a reason why it's so fucking hard to become a Navy SEAL. Yeah. 0.94

01:20:09.000 There's a reason why it's so hard to be a Ranger.

01:20:11.000 That is not easy. 0.99

01:20:12.000 No, that's the kind of shit like Marcus Luttrell talks about. 0.99

01:20:14.000 He goes, you've got to be, you know, if you get through, you've got to be willing to die, you know? 1.00

01:20:20.000 Yeah.

01:20:21.000 My cousin, he was in SEAL Team 2 and he got in a gunfight and then he got shot up and He's recovered now, and I think he just screened for SEAL Team 6, and it's a year after his injury.

01:20:33.000 But two of his friends died in a pool, and they're in...

01:20:38.000 Training?

01:20:39.000 Yeah.

01:20:40.000 I mean, it's a completely controlled environment. 0.99

01:20:42.000 And I was like, what the fuck is that? 0.99

01:20:43.000 Well, you know what a lot of that is. 1.00

01:20:45.000 My friend Eric Crisp said when he was going through it, they make you drown.

01:20:51.000 Right, and resuscitate you.

01:20:52.000 That's part of the training.

01:20:53.000 Right.

01:20:53.000 That's like the beginning of BUDS for everybody.

01:20:55.000 But these guys are already active duty combat SEALs.

01:20:59.000 And then like a few weeks ago it dawned on me and I think about like, you know, everybody's got safety and comfort.

01:21:04.000 Like here's where we live, right?

01:21:06.000 And then like Greg Jackson always say, you need to be comfortable where other men are uncomfortable.

01:21:10.000 Like you need to raise your breaking point to where it's unreachable for them and you can smash theirs, right?

01:21:16.000 And like so there's safety and comfort and then there's death over here.

01:21:21.000 And so If you're pushing it in a combat arena, like for me, it's a certain thing.

01:21:28.000 But then you get more and more...

01:21:30.000 It becomes opaque where death and your discomfort is.

01:21:33.000 And those guys are so used to being uncomfortable and in the worst situations possible that they probably can't see it.

01:21:38.000 So they're underwater in a pool and they're doing whatever they're doing.

01:21:40.000 And they drown.

01:21:41.000 And it's just too late. 0.98

01:21:42.000 I think it's something like that, probably, where they're so fucking tough, those guys. 0.93

01:21:48.000 They erase all their warning flags. 0.90

01:21:51.000 Whatever our body puts up is like warning.

01:21:53.000 Like, you need to stop this now or you're in danger.

01:21:55.000 I think that it just goes away for those guys. 1.00

01:21:57.000 That shit doesn't exist for them anymore. 1.00

01:21:58.000 There's levels with people, man. 1.00

01:22:00.000 Levels.

01:22:01.000 There's levels of competency.

01:22:02.000 There's levels of excellence.

01:22:04.000 And there's levels of toughness.

01:22:05.000 And then there's people that put themselves into situations.

01:22:08.000 You go, you know what, man?

01:22:10.000 To the average person, you would go, this is just not a smart place to be, but to them, it's home.

01:22:17.000 That's where they're at.

01:22:18.000 That's where they live.

01:22:19.000 You're like, this is very uncomfortable for me.

01:22:21.000 I don't like this.

01:22:21.000 And their feet are kicked up on the couch.

01:22:23.000 They're like, this is great.

01:22:24.000 My friend Cameron Haynes sent me a text last night.

01:22:27.000 Cameron, he's the bowhunter.

01:22:28.000 He's awesome. 1.00

01:22:29.000 Fucking what a life he leads. 0.99

01:22:30.000 He's a stud. 1.00

01:22:31.000 Love that guy.

01:22:32.000 He's in Colorado right now, bowhunting.

01:22:34.000 He bowhunts constantly.

01:22:35.000 What I love about that...

01:22:36.000 Hold on a second.

01:22:36.000 He was bowhunting two weeks ago with his friend Roy, who got him into hunting.

01:22:42.000 This guy from Oregon, who's his best friend, got him into hunting.

01:22:45.000 This guy's a guide up in Alaska, and they got a moose.

01:22:49.000 Really difficult hunt. 0.98

01:22:50.000 They're in the middle of the fucking snowstorm, and it was six inches of snow. 0.99

01:22:54.000 They're trudging through. 0.99

01:22:55.000 They had to find these moose, and they finally got one, and it was like this big triumphant moment for them.

01:22:59.000 He sent me a text yesterday that Roy died yesterday, fell off of a cliff while sheep hunting, 700 foot drop, and died.

01:23:09.000 And this is a guy that he was just with.

01:23:11.000 This is one of his best friends, if not his best friend.

01:23:14.000 And he died the day before yesterday.

01:23:18.000 Fell 700 feet.

01:23:19.000 And that's what we're talking about.

01:23:22.000 They're always that close to that.

01:23:24.000 I mean, especially when you're sheep hunting.

01:23:26.000 These rocky, steep, steep, steep...

01:23:29.000 Ice.

01:23:30.000 Loose gravel.

01:23:31.000 Loose gravel.

01:23:33.000 And Cameron was supposed to be sheep hunting with him on that trip, but they had to call it off because the snow was too dangerous.

01:23:39.000 It was so much snow that it snowed for 10 days straight.

01:23:41.000 They couldn't get to these mountain areas. 0.97

01:23:43.000 And if there's snow, also, and you're trying to climb up these mountains, you don't know what the fuck you're stepping on. 0.85

01:23:49.000 You're stepping on some loose rock underneath that snow.

01:23:51.000 Or a crevasse.

01:23:52.000 It's like just snow that's capped, and then you go right through. 1.00

01:23:55.000 Right through, and then you're fucked. 1.00

01:23:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:23:57.000 And he fell 700 feet to his death.

01:24:01.000 Crazy.

01:24:01.000 Yeah.

01:24:02.000 That's...

01:24:04.000 How did Cameron turn a corner to where he was able to monetize his life?

01:24:08.000 It's only recently.

01:24:09.000 He's been doing it forever. 0.93

01:24:10.000 It's so fucking cool. 0.98

01:24:11.000 He's been doing it forever. 0.99

01:24:12.000 He just hustles, man.

01:24:13.000 He works a full-time job.

01:24:15.000 Oh, really?

01:24:16.000 He has a full-time job.

01:24:17.000 He works for the Department of Water and Power in Oregon.

01:24:19.000 Wow, okay.

01:24:20.000 Works all day.

01:24:21.000 Nine hours and then he gets home. 1.00

01:24:22.000 He fucking runs. 0.99

01:24:23.000 He lifts. 1.00

01:24:23.000 Savage, man. 1.00

01:24:25.000 He's just tough as shit, man. 1.00

01:24:26.000 Guy does ultra marathons. 1.00

01:24:28.000 Energetic as anything.

01:24:29.000 Well, he's just tough.

01:24:30.000 Mental toughness.

01:24:31.000 Yeah.

01:24:31.000 That's like the main strength that guy has.

01:24:34.000 Incredible mental toughness.

01:24:35.000 He's like a Diaz brother. 0.93

01:24:37.000 In a lot of ways with the endurance aspect of it, yeah.

01:24:40.000 That kind of thing, just gritty determination.

01:24:43.000 Just hard work, man.

01:24:44.000 It's cool.

01:24:44.000 Guy just works hard.

01:24:45.000 It's cool, too, because he's not in a, it's, you know, like, if you're a fighter or you're a football player or you're in the army or something, that gets directed in a way for you, but, like, that's a real soloist thing that he does.

01:24:55.000 And there's a lot of guys that hunt, but there's not a lot of guys that are like that guy who's like, I'm going to go ahead and strap fucking a bunch of plates on my back and run up the mountain this morning.

01:25:02.000 Yeah. 0.53

01:25:02.000 There's not a lot of guys that train to hunt, like, He trains to be an apex predator. 0.53

01:25:07.000 Well, when you hunt with him, you realize, like, he and I were hunting in Colorado a couple weeks ago, and we went up this hill, and this fucking dude runs hills so often. 0.94

01:25:15.000 I'm in pretty good shape. 0.98

01:25:16.000 I'm following behind him. 0.99

01:25:18.000 I'm fucking huffing. 0.98

01:25:19.000 I mean, I'm trying to keep up with him, but I'm breathing heavy. 0.98

01:25:23.000 I got to the top with him.

01:25:24.000 I'm like...

01:25:26.000 He's not even breathing. 0.99

01:25:27.000 I mean, he's not even fucking breathing. 0.98

01:25:29.000 I mean, he's fine. 0.99

01:25:31.000 He's like, he could have a conversation with you. 0.99

01:25:33.000 Whereas I'm like, man, that's fucking Steve Hill. 0.99

01:25:37.000 I'm like, this is the difference between a guy who runs hills and a guy who doesn't. 0.99

01:25:42.000 He prepares for that specific environment.

01:25:45.000 So cool.

01:25:45.000 Constantly running hills constantly lifting weights all that and you know people criticize them You don't need to do that stuff You don't need to do that stuff because they don't want to do it and they don't like that someone is doing it, right?

01:25:56.000 But that fucking guy kills several bull elk every year kills moose every time he goes out He's killing something and that's all he eats. 0.94

01:26:02.000 He eats high protein organic meat constantly and he's inspirational That's what I love about him, man. 1.00

01:26:09.000 That guy, I've run into so many people that are inspired by that guy, and he forces them, by just watching him, it forces them to get off their ass and go do stuff, and go lift weights, go work out.

01:26:20.000 I mean, a guy like that, you're going, if I do 15% of what he does, I'm winning. 0.98

01:26:25.000 And he works all day.

01:26:26.000 Guy works 40 hours a week. 1.00

01:26:27.000 I thought for sure that was his full-time shit. 0.99

01:26:29.000 Yeah, he makes way more from bowhunting than he does from his work. 1.00

01:26:32.000 Crazy.

01:26:33.000 But he keeps the job. 0.94

01:26:34.000 He doesn't want to anymore.

01:26:35.000 Get a pension or something at the end of it. 1.00

01:26:37.000 All that shit. 0.99

01:26:37.000 He's got kids and insurance and all that shit. 0.99

01:26:40.000 That is a ton. 0.99

01:26:41.000 Kids too?

01:26:42.000 Yeah.

01:26:42.000 Wife, kids, whole deal.

01:26:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:26:45.000 Speaking of which, I gotta get the fuck out of here, Tate Fletcher. 0.94

01:26:48.000 We gotta do these more often, dude. 0.90

01:26:49.000 Yeah, I know.

01:26:50.000 Why don't we do this?

01:26:51.000 I don't know.

01:26:51.000 This was fun.

01:26:52.000 Yeah, I love it, man. 0.97

01:26:53.000 Tate motherfucking Fletcher on Instagram. 0.99

01:26:55.000 That's T-A-I-T. I don't know who the fuck T-A-T is. 1.00

01:26:58.000 Yeah, not me, huh? 1.00

01:26:59.000 Tell him to kick rocks.

01:27:00.000 Yeah.

01:27:02.000 Nuevo Cerveza, CavemanCoffeeCO.com. 1.00

01:27:06.000 This shit right here, Caveman Nitro. 1.00

01:27:09.000 This is the shit. 1.00

01:27:10.000 We got our new packaging for our concentrate. 1.00

01:27:12.000 Mmm, delicious.

01:27:13.000 You know, all that goodness.

01:27:14.000 This stuff right here, this is my all-time favorite.

01:27:16.000 I go through this. 0.99

01:27:17.000 You know what else fucking goes through it? 1.00

01:27:18.000 That little cunt. 1.00

01:27:20.000 I'm going to bring him some. 1.00

01:27:21.000 We got pallets on pallets inside L.A. right now.

01:27:23.000 Oh, Jamie just got all salivating. 1.00

01:27:28.000 Cool, man.

01:27:28.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you.

01:27:29.000 Much love.

01:27:30.000 See you soon.

01:27:30.000 Bye-bye.

01:27:31.000 Big kiss.

01:27:46.000 Thank you.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 06, 2015

Joe Rogan Experience #705 - Tait Fletcher

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