The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #736 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

00:00:00.000 Opecia is bad for your dick! 1.00

00:00:03.000 For your wang! 1.00

00:00:04.000 For your dick! 1.00

00:00:05.000 It's probably bad for a lot of things. 1.00

00:00:07.000 You know what else is bad for?

00:00:08.000 For me, at least, personally?

00:00:09.000 My experience?

00:00:10.000 When I got off of it, my endurance, like, upped.

00:00:14.000 Really?

00:00:14.000 Yeah, my strength...

00:00:17.000 Like I felt stronger.

00:00:19.000 Like I felt like physically better.

00:00:20.000 Like I would get tired when I was on it.

00:00:23.000 Yeah.

00:00:23.000 I heard there's terrible side effects.

00:00:25.000 Ari Shafir experienced severe depression from Propecia and didn't put the two and two together until after he got off of it.

00:00:32.000 And he had like bad depression.

00:00:34.000 Wow.

00:00:34.000 And he realized like, oh my god, it all started when I started taking Propecia.

00:00:38.000 I heard it messes with your sex drive too, your dick. 1.00

00:00:40.000 I gotta be honest with you guys. 1.00

00:00:41.000 It killed my dick like a bullet. 1.00

00:00:42.000 I'll be honest with you guys, I take it all the time, and my dick is always hard. 1.00

00:00:45.000 Hard right now. 0.99

00:00:46.000 You're amazing.

00:00:47.000 I am.

00:00:48.000 As you always like to say, it's not testosterone. 0.97

00:00:50.000 I'm just a pervert.

00:00:52.000 I mean, Brian always tells me, I think my testosterone is too high. 0.98

00:00:55.000 Like, look at your body.

00:00:55.000 You're built like this.

00:00:57.000 This is you.

00:00:58.000 Dude, I took my shirt off.

00:00:58.000 Don't ever say...

00:00:59.000 You know what happened to you when I took my shirt off?

00:01:01.000 You went like this.

00:01:02.000 You go...

00:01:02.000 You held it in, but you went like this.

00:01:05.000 You went immediately...

00:01:06.000 Do you think I shuddered?

00:01:07.000 You went...

00:01:08.000 And then you're like, oh, you need to get in better shape!

00:01:10.000 Like if I was a woman, I would be excited.

00:01:11.000 You guys did have a pose-off.

00:01:12.000 We had a pose-off just now. 0.99

00:01:13.000 Two 48-year-old losers posing off. 1.00

00:01:17.000 Fucking, literally. 1.00

00:01:18.000 I'm on my phone, Joe goes, Shabby, look at this. 0.99

00:01:20.000 We're making you judge us.

00:01:24.000 You guys are both my friends?

00:01:26.000 No, both of you look great.

00:01:28.000 Didn't you think at some point in time you were going to grow up?

00:01:30.000 I always assumed that this would not be funny for me.

00:01:34.000 You would come to a point where I wouldn't be with my friends going...

00:01:37.000 Of course!

00:01:39.000 Of course. 1.00

00:01:40.000 Being retarded. 1.00

00:01:41.000 I loved it. 0.96

00:01:41.000 It never ends. 0.96

00:01:42.000 Will we be like 80 in doing this?

00:01:44.000 I think so.

00:01:45.000 I think we'll always be attracted to round soft surfaces, fightings, any kind of penetration, and it'll get our attention always.

00:01:51.000 Like, what happened?

00:01:51.000 A guy punched him in the face?

00:01:52.000 Well, listen to this crazy shit. 0.99

00:01:54.000 Dana White told me that the guy who invented Regenikine, Peter Welling, is that his name is? 1.00

00:01:59.000 In Germany?

00:02:00.000 I forget his name.

00:02:01.000 Dusseldorf, Germany.

00:02:02.000 This is the one that Kobe Bryant, all those guys are flying out to Germany to this Regenikine procedure that regenerates.

00:02:08.000 It's amazing anti-inflammatory properties.

00:02:12.000 He's figured out a way to regenerate collagen with an injection.

00:02:16.000 With an injection your body starts regenerating its own collagen like a 20 year old.

00:02:20.000 And he's saying wrinkles will just go away.

00:02:24.000 Your skin will just tighten up.

00:02:26.000 You are going to look like a much younger person.

00:02:28.000 And this is all within like the next year.

00:02:31.000 Really?

00:02:31.000 Yep.

00:02:32.000 Congrats, Cal.

00:02:33.000 I don't need it.

00:02:34.000 Look at my face.

00:02:35.000 You're beautiful.

00:02:35.000 So tight.

00:02:36.000 They're on the brink of doing this.

00:02:38.000 Man.

00:02:38.000 They're that close.

00:02:39.000 Like, they're setting up the infrastructure and they're getting ready to roll with this stuff. 1.00

00:02:42.000 I'm trying to invest in that shit right now. 1.00

00:02:44.000 Oh, hell yeah. 1.00

00:02:45.000 When they do, it's going to be fucking bonkers, man. 0.99

00:02:47.000 That's pretty wild, man. 0.99

00:02:48.000 You're going to see Barbara Walters looking hot as fuck. 1.00

00:02:52.000 It's true. 0.99

00:02:53.000 They are doing crazy stuff with tissue regeneration.

00:02:56.000 Well, I wonder when they're going to be able to do that to backs. 0.98

00:02:58.000 Because people that have, like, really fucked... 0.96

00:03:00.000 Like, I ran into my friend Alder. 0.99

00:03:02.000 He's one of Andy Bravo's black belts last night.

00:03:04.000 Told me he hasn't been able to...

00:03:05.000 I haven't seen him in a while.

00:03:06.000 Told me he hasn't been able to do jiu-jitsu in two years. 0.99

00:03:08.000 His back has been fucked up. 0.99

00:03:10.000 And it just doesn't get better. 1.00

00:03:11.000 Disc?

00:03:12.000 All disc'd up?

00:03:13.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:03:14.000 Just disc degeneration, you know?

00:03:16.000 There are two girls I know who are in wheelchairs, you know, and they are... 1.00

00:03:20.000 Is it from your dick? 1.00

00:03:21.000 It's from my dick. 1.00

00:03:22.000 It's from my dick. 1.00

00:03:24.000 You dicked them down? 1.00

00:03:25.000 They're both actually super attractive, I have to be honest.

00:03:28.000 And I'd be lying if I said I didn't have thoughts.

00:03:30.000 So you're talking about spinal injuries, not discs.

00:03:32.000 Yeah.

00:03:33.000 And, you know, obviously, there's a long way to go before that.

00:03:37.000 But there's a guy in San Diego, a doctor, who I guess works with electrical pulses.

00:03:41.000 And he has had some success in sort of, he shoots an electrical sort of, I don't know, pulse.

00:03:48.000 Sounds like false hope.

00:03:49.000 No, in some cases, it's given some feeling back on their legs and stuff.

00:03:54.000 So it's promising.

00:03:55.000 But I think...

00:03:56.000 100 years from now, they're gonna fix all that stuff.

00:03:59.000 They just can't figure out how to regenerate spinal tissue.

00:04:02.000 They can't figure out how to connect.

00:04:04.000 Once your core is severed, they can't do anything about it.

00:04:07.000 But they're very hopeful. 0.99

00:04:09.000 They're doing it with penises. 1.00

00:04:11.000 I mean, you're able to transplant a penis. 1.00

00:04:13.000 Not only did the guy, they transplanted his penis and he got his girlfriend pregnant. 1.00

00:04:17.000 That's right. 1.00

00:04:18.000 Yeah. 0.74

00:04:19.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:04:20.000 Well, the hardest thing for so many veterans is when they get their legs blown off, the first thing this doctor was saying, the first thing young men say is, what's going on with my dick? 1.00

00:04:27.000 Of course. 1.00

00:04:28.000 Of course.

00:04:28.000 And it's so devastating.

00:04:30.000 It's such a devastating wound.

00:04:32.000 And one of the things that they were trying to get money for it, and they were like, look, legs are more important.

00:04:37.000 He said, you have no idea what you're talking about. 0.99

00:04:40.000 Mentally, for a young man, when he gets an injury to his groin, that's fucking... 0.99

00:04:45.000 More devastating than almost anything else. 1.00

00:04:47.000 It's pretty devastating also when your dick gets blown off with your balls. 1.00

00:04:50.000 You don't have testosterone anymore. 1.00

00:04:52.000 Game over, son.

00:04:54.000 Obviously, there's a lot to say about that.

00:04:58.000 Horrors of war.

00:04:59.000 The idea that you can just figure out how to fix bodies to the point where anything that's broken can just get repaired.

00:05:06.000 Think about like 100, 500 years ago, if you got a broken leg, like 500 years ago.

00:05:12.000 You're a dead man. 0.99

00:05:13.000 We're going to have to put you down. 0.99

00:05:14.000 The thing is, you know the one thing they can't figure out how to help? 0.97

00:05:18.000 Your brain.

00:05:18.000 It's the only thing they can't figure out.

00:05:20.000 Everything else, you're good.

00:05:21.000 I feel like, why don't they just drill a hole and shoot some stem cells in there?

00:05:25.000 I don't know, man. 0.98

00:05:26.000 This CRISPR-Cas9 is fucking incredible. 0.97

00:05:29.000 That's the new frontier. 0.93

00:05:30.000 And in 10 years, we're going to be literally taking your DNA and putting a gene in the area.

00:05:38.000 Apparently, just shooting a gene in the area of that when they snip your DNA. You know how it works?

00:05:43.000 It's kind of wild.

00:05:45.000 There's a great Radiolab podcast on CRISPR. I listened to it twice so I could figure out what they were saying.

00:05:49.000 You know what the con is to all this, though, is all this advancement in medical and all that stuff, and we're fixing everyone.

00:05:56.000 Everything's going to get overpopulated, right?

00:05:58.000 People are going to stop dying off so fast.

00:05:59.000 There will always be plain old death.

00:06:02.000 True, but that average life is going to be way longer.

00:06:04.000 It's already increasing.

00:06:06.000 Also, how do you pay for, like, there are certain cancer treatments that are $1,000 a pill.

00:06:11.000 I mean, you can cure hep C now, and it's $1,000 a pill.

00:06:15.000 It'll cost you $84,000, but you'll cure it.

00:06:17.000 You will cure it.

00:06:19.000 Is that for sure?

00:06:19.000 Hep C is a curable disease.

00:06:22.000 It's no longer a manageable disease.

00:06:24.000 It used to be really hard.

00:06:24.000 You'd have to take interferon, which would only work on Northern Europeans.

00:06:29.000 The look on Brendan Schaub's face is he can still fuck Pamela Anderson now. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Hold on. 1.00

00:06:37.000 With the collagen...

00:06:41.000 Sign me up, son.

00:06:42.000 I can do it.

00:06:43.000 Isn't that crazy, though?

00:06:44.000 We've got to get her to do squats. 1.00

00:06:47.000 No ass at all. 0.99

00:06:48.000 No ass at all. 0.99

00:06:49.000 Nothing. 0.99

00:06:49.000 Who? 0.99

00:06:50.000 Pam Anderson.

00:06:51.000 I worked with her. 1.00

00:06:52.000 She had an ass. 1.00

00:06:53.000 Easy. 1.00

00:06:53.000 When did you work with her? 1.00

00:06:54.000 I did Stacked, the great TV show Stacked.

00:06:57.000 Was that in the 60s?

00:06:58.000 It may as well have been.

00:06:59.000 Stacked?

00:06:59.000 She was 14. She was 38, still very hot.

00:07:03.000 How old is she now, though?

00:07:03.000 And had Hep C at the time.

00:07:04.000 So you're talking about like at least 10 years ago, right?

00:07:06.000 Yeah, about 10 years ago.

00:07:07.000 Bro, I saw Sydney Crawford when I was coming out of yoga in Santa Monica.

00:07:11.000 She is jaw-dropping gorgeous. 0.94

00:07:14.000 She's beautiful.

00:07:14.000 I had a long conversation with her and her husband like six months ago at a party.

00:07:19.000 Yeah, she's hot as fuck and she's like 50, 51, something like that. 1.00

00:07:24.000 I love it. 1.00

00:07:24.000 She keeps it up, baby. 1.00

00:07:25.000 Have you seen Christy Brinkley?

00:07:27.000 Yes.

00:07:28.000 62?

00:07:29.000 Have you seen her?

00:07:30.000 No. 1.00

00:07:30.000 Looks hot as fuck. 1.00

00:07:31.000 Really? 1.00

00:07:31.000 62. She might be the hottest older lady of all time? 1.00

00:07:33.000 Oh no, she is the hottest older lady of all time. 1.00

00:07:35.000 Well, Raquel Welch. 0.95

00:07:36.000 I saw Raquel Welch when she was in her 60s and a straight-up dime piece. 1.00

00:07:40.000 Some women are beautiful their whole fucking life. 1.00

00:07:42.000 They can hang in there. 1.00

00:07:43.000 Very rare.

00:07:44.000 They can hang in there.

00:07:44.000 Yeah.

00:07:45.000 It's fucking rare. 0.99

00:07:47.000 Super rare. 0.99

00:07:47.000 You know how much effort it must take to keep that up? 0.99

00:07:50.000 I mean, it's a job.

00:07:51.000 You don't think it's genetics?

00:07:53.000 It's probably that too, but also effort.

00:07:55.000 I don't think there's any woman who looks that fantastic that doesn't do something. 0.99

00:07:58.000 Like, either they have fillers on their face, or they work out like a fucking demon, which is mandatory, or they go to... 0.99

00:08:07.000 They have to. 0.99

00:08:08.000 They have to.

00:08:09.000 They probably do cryogenics.

00:08:11.000 Like, that's Christy Brinkley.

00:08:12.000 She's 62. That's nuts.

00:08:14.000 My mom is very similar in age.

00:08:17.000 I would take her out on a date right now.

00:08:19.000 I would go on a date with her 62-year-old.

00:08:20.000 Yeah, she's hot. 1.00

00:08:21.000 And that's not even a good picture because, like, the sun's behind her, her face is in the shade.

00:08:25.000 Like, she's legitimately high-definition beautiful. 0.85

00:08:28.000 That's crazy.

00:08:29.000 She might fall apart, though, when you get in the sack.

00:08:31.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:08:32.000 She's like, bones.

00:08:33.000 She probably just sleeps. 0.99

00:08:35.000 Just like a vampire. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Don't touch me, bitch. 1.00

00:08:39.000 You go into a bathtub, it's filled with blood. 1.00

00:08:41.000 I started noticing, like for me, about four years ago, maybe three years ago, I noticed that girls just didn't look at me the same when I'd come off stage.

00:08:54.000 I mean, I talk about my wife and stuff, but when you, as a young man, you're doing stand-up, you would always have some female attention.

00:09:01.000 It's...

00:09:03.000 Died down quite a bit.

00:09:04.000 Dried up.

00:09:05.000 Dried up a little bit.

00:09:05.000 The groupies are older?

00:09:06.000 I'm old, guy.

00:09:07.000 Well, now I'm 48, and now if a girl who's 20 and she were to sleep with me, I'm sure, like we were talking about it, her friends would probably be like, how old?

00:09:14.000 Ew.

00:09:15.000 For sure.

00:09:15.000 Yeah.

00:09:15.000 Your fans now are more interested in bingo and shit.

00:09:17.000 I'm not very... 1.00

00:09:18.000 So when is that collagen shit coming out? 0.99

00:09:20.000 Soon. 0.99

00:09:21.000 Soon. 1.00

00:09:21.000 I'm shooting that shit up by the galon. 1.00

00:09:23.000 Super soon. 1.00

00:09:24.000 By the galon.

00:09:25.000 By the galon. 1.00

00:09:25.000 Shooting it right into your face holes. 1.00

00:09:27.000 I'm going to take my shirt off here because I got a tight shirt on. 0.99

00:09:30.000 How about you take the headphones off too?

00:09:31.000 Yeah, but they just don't like feeble old dudes. 0.99

00:09:36.000 You know, with weird hunches in their back. 0.99

00:09:39.000 No, you don't want to look like fucking... 0.99

00:09:40.000 Gravity's winning. 0.99

00:09:42.000 Some guys let themselves go.

00:09:44.000 I've never understood.

00:09:45.000 You don't want that.

00:09:47.000 Shitty posture.

00:09:48.000 Look, we were just talking about Christie Brinkley.

00:09:50.000 She's like way older than us.

00:09:51.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:09:52.000 But we would all fuck her. 1.00

00:09:53.000 Yes. 1.00

00:09:54.000 Give her a chance.

00:09:55.000 Right now.

00:09:55.000 And the right circumstances.

00:09:56.000 I'm taking my sports to a new level by the time I'm 62. Drugs.

00:10:00.000 I'm playing tennis.

00:10:01.000 What is this tennis thing?

00:10:02.000 Why are you so obsessed with that?

00:10:03.000 He's always been obsessed with it.

00:10:04.000 How about you take up something manly like jiu-jitsu?

00:10:06.000 I box, bro.

00:10:07.000 Oh yeah, you do, bro.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, I go four rounds.

00:10:10.000 Amazing.

00:10:11.000 Why are you looking at me like that?

00:10:12.000 When was the last time you boxed?

00:10:13.000 Ask Chris Van Earden.

00:10:15.000 That's not an answer to a question. 0.99

00:10:17.000 It was about, I don't have to get all detailed, you fucks. 0.96

00:10:20.000 You've been out of town, and then we had stuff going on. 0.98

00:10:21.000 It was about three weeks ago.

00:10:23.000 Did you watch the UFC this weekend?

00:10:24.000 I did.

00:10:25.000 Did you?

00:10:25.000 Where were you?

00:10:26.000 And by the way, you were in Florida, were you?

00:10:27.000 Yes, not to brag, but I called every single fight, including the Rose-Page fight and the Frankie Edgar-Mendez.

00:10:34.000 Well, you didn't call the result.

00:10:36.000 You didn't think that Frankie was going to knock out Chad Mendes.

00:10:38.000 I picked the winners.

00:10:39.000 I don't think anybody.

00:10:40.000 I thought Frankie had a real good shot at decisioning. 1.00

00:10:43.000 Like, when my friends asked me, like, who's going to win this, who's going to win that, I said, Frankie has a real good shot at decisioning, Chad, but Chad also has a good shot at knocking Frankie out.

00:10:51.000 100%.

00:10:51.000 I thought if there was a knockout, it'd be Chad.

00:10:53.000 The only reason I picked so fucking hard, I mean, he knocked out Ricardo Lamas. 0.94

00:10:56.000 I mean, he bangs, and he also loads up. 0.93

00:11:00.000 Yes.

00:11:00.000 He's a powerful guy.

00:11:01.000 I just figured, for me, I picked Frankie because I knew Frankie wouldn't gas, and I think if anything, I thought if Chad had to keep up with Frankie's pace, he would gas toward, you know, the line around.

00:11:10.000 Well, Chad actually came into this fight light, because I think he anticipated that kind of pace that Frankie was going to put on him.

00:11:15.000 Yes.

00:11:15.000 So I was talking to Justin Buckholz, and he said that Chad was way lighter for this fight.

00:11:20.000 He did a shit ton of cardio.

00:11:21.000 Like, he was embarrassed by the Conor fight that he gassed out so quick. 0.82

00:11:24.000 Right.

00:11:25.000 Obviously took that fight on two weeks notice, which is a joke.

00:11:27.000 When you're a big guy like him, you got to cut weight to get down to 145, his entire camp is probably all about him losing weight.

00:11:34.000 But this camp, he got in real good shape.

00:11:37.000 And he just got clipped.

00:11:39.000 A lot of these fights, it's a toss-up.

00:11:41.000 It's so close.

00:11:42.000 The matches were so close.

00:11:43.000 So you could have went either way.

00:11:44.000 So many people were so fucking mad at me, where after the fight, they give suggestions, like the UFC says, the truck will say, who do you think should get the next shot? 0.97

00:11:54.000 In your ear? 0.98

00:11:55.000 Yeah, they say it's a gold in Goldy Ass Man.

00:11:57.000 And so they had the footage based up for Frankie Edgar.

00:12:02.000 And so I said, honestly, I don't think that a rematch...

00:12:08.000 Well, you definitely could do a rematch.

00:12:11.000 The problem with doing a rematch is...

00:12:13.000 With Aldo?

00:12:13.000 With Aldo McGregor.

00:12:14.000 With Aldo.

00:12:15.000 Conor McGregor and Aldo.

00:12:16.000 The problem with doing a rematch is it'd be so hard to sell when a guy gets knocked out that quick.

00:12:21.000 When you hype it up for as long as you did, you hype it up for two separate events, it dies off, and then the first punch Conor connects with it puts him out.

00:12:30.000 But it's hard to sell that.

00:12:32.000 But if you want to look at, like...

00:12:34.000 Like lineage, and you look at his history, you'd say, yeah, a guy was a champion for 10 years, he should have a rematch.

00:12:41.000 He deserves it.

00:12:41.000 He wants a rematch, but does he?

00:12:43.000 Here's the thing, there's a giant list of people.

00:12:45.000 People say that Kane got an immediate rematch after Junior Dos Santos knocked him out, but he didn't.

00:12:50.000 He fought Bigfoot Silva.

00:12:51.000 He knocked out Bigfoot Silva, and then he got a rematch.

00:12:53.000 But traditionally, traditionally in boxing, correct me if I'm wrong.

00:12:56.000 We're not in boxing.

00:12:57.000 That's a bad argument.

00:12:58.000 Go off the UFC. So here's the counter argument.

00:13:00.000 I'm with you.

00:13:01.000 As soon as some people were like, rematch, I'm like, well, he just got murked in 13 seconds.

00:13:05.000 There's not much of a rematch.

00:13:06.000 But if you look at the history of the UFC... He should get a rematch just based off the way they usually do things.

00:13:14.000 So we look at Burrell, right?

00:13:16.000 We look at Burrell, he lost, immediate rematch.

00:13:18.000 We look at Anderson Silva, immediate rematch.

00:13:21.000 You know, there's tons in the history.

00:13:23.000 Ronda Rousey, immediate rematch. 1.00

00:13:25.000 All those...

00:13:26.000 Such a badass he should get immediate rematch according to what they've done before right does it make sense?

00:13:31.000 I don't think what they've done before is based I think a lot of it is based on like what kind of compelling contenders do they have for that title and especially compelling contenders where you look at their style versus like The style of the guy who is now the current champion.

00:13:48.000 And if you wanted to pick like the most intriguing, stylistic matchup, I think it's Frankie Edgar.

00:13:54.000 Yes.

00:13:54.000 Frankie Edgar, a guy who fought at 55, won the title at 55, beat legends in BJ Penn, just knocked out Chad Mendes with one punch, before that beat the fuck out of Cub Swanson.

00:14:04.000 No doubt.

00:14:04.000 I mean, he beat Uriah Faber.

00:14:06.000 He's smushed everybody they put in front of him for a few years now. 0.95

00:14:11.000 He's a monster. 1.00

00:14:12.000 He deserves... 0.57

00:14:12.000 But how can you give someone, say, like Ronda, an immediate rematch and make Holly wait? 0.57

00:14:18.000 That's a very good question.

00:14:19.000 Because you're saying...

00:14:19.000 I'm not saying that Ronda should get an immediate rematch.

00:14:23.000 It's true, you weren't.

00:14:24.000 But for the most part, she's getting an immediate rematch, right?

00:14:26.000 It's guaranteed.

00:14:28.000 Well, that's the plan, but she has to pass the medicals and make sure she's healthy and all that jazz. 1.00

00:14:35.000 True, but the plan is she's going to get the rematch. 0.99

00:14:36.000 But that's only financial.

00:14:39.000 Financially, the Holly Holm fight with Ronda is the biggest fight for Holly Holm.

00:14:44.000 Holly Holm is going to make like $7 million for the Ronda Rousey. 1.00

00:14:47.000 And that's great.

00:14:48.000 If I was Holly Holm, I mean, she doesn't want to wait.

00:14:50.000 She wants to stay active, and I totally understand that.

00:14:53.000 And I think it should be her prerogative as a champion to kind of choose.

00:14:59.000 But, financially, that's the smart fight for her.

00:15:01.000 She's gonna make the most money. 1.00

00:15:03.000 She wants to fight Misha Tate before.

00:15:05.000 Yes, she does.

00:15:05.000 That's what her and her camp wants to do, and Misha wants to fight.

00:15:07.000 UFC's saying no.

00:15:08.000 So how can you grant...

00:15:10.000 This is all I'm saying.

00:15:11.000 You can't play favorites.

00:15:12.000 Because when the public smells favorites, then you're losing credibility.

00:15:17.000 But is that favorites, or is that smart financially?

00:15:23.000 What about Verdum Kane?

00:15:25.000 That's a good question.

00:15:26.000 Well, Kane and Verdum were not going to have an immediate rematch.

00:15:30.000 They offered Verdum other fights.

00:15:32.000 And I don't know how they came to the conclusion of Kane fighting, but apparently there was a bunch of other people in the mix, and they came to settle on Kane.

00:15:39.000 It might have been that it was Verdum's choice because of financial reasons.

00:15:44.000 The Kane fight will be much more financially viable for him.

00:15:47.000 I get it, man.

00:15:48.000 So what about Henan Burrell?

00:15:49.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:15:50.000 You have Henan Burrell.

00:15:50.000 He's not a draw at all.

00:15:52.000 TJ whoops his ass like, alright, this guy's been a champ for so long, we give him a rematch. 0.69

00:15:56.000 I see what you're saying, that there should be consistency. 0.99

00:15:59.000 There has to be.

00:15:59.000 You can't play favorites.

00:16:01.000 Hold on, you don't know what you're talking about.

00:16:02.000 You can't play favorites.

00:16:06.000 You know what I'm saying, Joe?

00:16:06.000 You can't play favorites.

00:16:11.000 You're interrupting him!

00:16:16.000 But there just has to be some sort of consistency where you just can't play favorites.

00:16:19.000 Well, this is good here.

00:16:20.000 This is good here.

00:16:21.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:16:21.000 No, I completely agree.

00:16:22.000 And Damian Maia brought this up, and it's a great point.

00:16:24.000 It's the same with the rankings. 0.97

00:16:26.000 Because where the fuck are we going to lose rankings? 0.91

00:16:30.000 Here's one that doesn't make any sense to me. 0.97

00:16:32.000 How come Uriah Hall knocked out Gegard Mousasi, but Gegard Mousasi was ahead of him in the rankings?

00:16:39.000 Knocked him out in his last fight!

00:16:40.000 There's a bunch like that.

00:16:41.000 There's a bunch like that.

00:16:42.000 That's the thing.

00:16:42.000 But that's the most egregious, in my opinion.

00:16:44.000 There's been bigger ones that I've seen.

00:16:46.000 But most of the fighters, we laugh at the rankings.

00:16:49.000 We used to laugh at the rankings.

00:16:50.000 Like, one and two, whatever.

00:16:51.000 It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out one, two. 1.00

00:16:54.000 After that, who's voting on these fucking things? 0.99

00:16:56.000 I don't know who votes on these things. 0.99

00:16:57.000 It's the same thing with a lot of these title shots.

00:16:59.000 Okay, let me ask you this.

00:17:00.000 But if you want to be taken seriously, it can't be WWE style.

00:17:02.000 Let me ask you this.

00:17:03.000 Do you think there's an inherent problem with the promotion, being the UFC, also being the ones who dictate who fights for titles?

00:17:14.000 100%.

00:17:14.000 Because normally it's not.

00:17:16.000 What do you mean by that?

00:17:17.000 The WBC is a sanctioning body for boxing.

00:17:21.000 The WBC decides who's the mandatory contender, and then Bob Arum or Don King or Golden Boy, those are the ones who promote the fight.

00:17:29.000 The UFC is both.

00:17:32.000 They're the sanctioning body and they're also the promoters of the fight.

00:17:35.000 So they have a vested interest in going with the best financial option.

00:17:40.000 This is why Tyson Fury was just stripped of his heavyweight title.

00:17:44.000 Tyson Fury just legitimately outboxed Vladimir Klitschko. 1.00

00:17:47.000 Beat his ass. 1.00

00:17:48.000 Just 100%. 1.00

00:17:49.000 It's kind of weird clunky style he has.

00:17:52.000 Still won every round. 1.00

00:17:52.000 Won every fucking round. 1.00

00:17:53.000 Beat Vladimir Klitschko, a guy who's lost in ten fucking years. 0.99

00:17:57.000 And they had an immediate defense of the title that they were imposing on him. 0.98

00:18:03.000 And he passed on him.

00:18:04.000 He said, I'm not doing that.

00:18:05.000 They stripped him of his title.

00:18:07.000 This is within weeks of him beating Vladimir Klitschko for the title.

00:18:11.000 So this is a drast...

00:18:14.000 Drastic, drastic contrast to what the UFC has. 0.97

00:18:17.000 The UFC would say, look, I don't care what the ratings are, you're fighting Vladimir Klitschko again, because that's where all the fucking money is, right? 0.96

00:18:24.000 And that's what they would do. 0.93

00:18:26.000 Well, think if the NFL and NBA did this, or MLB. If these other major leagues did this, you'd have the most popular teams.

00:18:32.000 You'd have the Yankees in the playoffs all the time.

00:18:34.000 You'd have the Cleveland.

00:18:35.000 It's not a valid comparison.

00:18:36.000 It is, because it's very black and white.

00:18:38.000 No, no, no, because you're talking about teams.

00:18:40.000 You're talking about teams versus individuals.

00:18:42.000 It's not a valid comparison.

00:18:44.000 I disagree.

00:18:46.000 To play for a championship, you have to go through a whole season.

00:18:49.000 You go through a whole season, you have to win to even be in contention to play for the Super Bowl.

00:18:54.000 To be in contention to play for the major leagues.

00:18:56.000 True, but it's still not up in the air.

00:18:58.000 It's very black and white.

00:18:59.000 When you're in.

00:19:00.000 The UFC is not black and white.

00:19:01.000 Let me ask you guys a question about...

00:19:03.000 Well, that's why it's not a valid comparison.

00:19:05.000 Because you can't set it up so that they do that.

00:19:07.000 Well, if you want to get taken serious, you're going to have to come up with a formula where people can see the madness behind your reasoning.

00:19:11.000 Like an algorithm or something, right?

00:19:12.000 Yes.

00:19:13.000 That's what Damian Maia was saying.

00:19:14.000 Damian Maia was saying that after the...

00:19:17.000 I think he's had, I don't know how many victories in a row he's had.

00:19:20.000 But at welterweight, he's been virtually flawless.

00:19:24.000 I mean, I think one person might have beaten him at welterweight.

00:19:27.000 That's crazy.

00:19:27.000 Who beat Damian Maia at welterweight?

00:19:29.000 But look, Damian Maia made a very good point. 0.94

00:19:32.000 Damian Maia, he's such a fucking respectful gentleman and such a perfect representative of martial arts. 0.97

00:19:40.000 That guy is a gem. 0.98

00:19:42.000 He really is.

00:19:42.000 You see his quote?

00:19:43.000 He goes, I just do punching to set up my takedown so I can do jiu-jitsu because I don't want to hurt my opponent.

00:19:49.000 I want to be able to train the next day.

00:19:51.000 Wow.

00:19:51.000 Because I just want to get in there and win by jiu-jitsu so I can go back to training.

00:19:54.000 They can go back to training.

00:19:55.000 Wow.

00:19:56.000 He's one of the good ones.

00:19:57.000 He's amazing. 1.00

00:19:58.000 He's the fucking young guy destroyer, though. 1.00

00:20:00.000 Hey, let's quit tossing these young up-and-comers, and he just rapes them. 1.00

00:20:04.000 No! 0.93

00:20:04.000 Who cares about the age? 0.93

00:20:06.000 Set it up. 0.99

00:20:08.000 Let him choke them all. 0.93

00:20:09.000 Okay, so Rory McDonald beat him. 0.87

00:20:11.000 That was the last guy at welterweight. 0.98

00:20:14.000 And right before that was Jake Shields beat him, which was a great fucking fight, man. 0.96

00:20:18.000 But that was a split decision. 0.98

00:20:20.000 Rory beat him.

00:20:21.000 Unanimous decision.

00:20:22.000 Split decisions are so weird because sometimes they are clear. 1.00

00:20:25.000 You just got an idiot judge, and I don't remember that fight. 0.99

00:20:28.000 How about Romero and Jacare? 1.00

00:20:29.000 That was a very close fight.

00:20:31.000 I almost thought it was going to be a draw or a split decision for Jacare.

00:20:35.000 It could have been.

00:20:35.000 Well, I thought it could have been a draw because I think Yoel definitely got a 10-8 round the first round, but the question is, will they score a 10-8 round?

00:20:44.000 When you've got a guy completely on Queer Street, he's spinning it up, backfist him in the jaw, knock him down, and Jacare was, he got up to his, after he took off Fucking prolonged beating on the ground. 0.54

00:20:56.000 He got hit with some bombs by Yoel. 0.61

00:20:59.000 He gets up to go to his corner and he is on wobbly legs like they could have easily stopped the fight and I was thinking that they might should have stopped the fight but Jacare, being the stud that he is, came back and re-established himself in the second round, partially because Yoel gassed. 0.98

00:21:16.000 Because Yoel, who looks like a fucking superhero, the most ridiculous stud at three minutes. 0.51

00:21:25.000 That's why if he fights Luke Rockhold and tries to go five rounds... 0.99

00:21:28.000 This is my thing, Joe.

00:21:29.000 You can't give...

00:21:30.000 I thought after that fight, whoever wins, you can't give those guys a title shot.

00:21:34.000 You do Weidman, Rockhold, too. 0.98

00:21:36.000 You don't give the winner that bullshit title shot, I don't think. 0.96

00:21:39.000 I think you can make a real good point to that. 0.52

00:21:42.000 But this sort of contradicts what you said about having a very clear algorithm as far as who becomes the number one contender and who fights who.

00:21:49.000 But this is the thing.

00:21:50.000 I'm going based off past UFC history.

00:21:52.000 You know what I think they should do?

00:21:53.000 I really think this.

00:21:55.000 I think there should be a way where people sign in on Facebook.

00:21:59.000 You know, like you sign in using your Facebook so we know you're a real person.

00:22:02.000 And the public votes.

00:22:04.000 Then, you also have the media vote.

00:22:06.000 You have the mixed martial arts media.

00:22:08.000 Like the guys who...

00:22:10.000 The Golden Globes almost.

00:22:11.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:22:12.000 And then you have fighters vote.

00:22:14.000 Fighters is a good idea.

00:22:15.000 So just like how you have three judges that score a fight, you have three sources that you use to pick who the contenders are.

00:22:24.000 That's a good idea.

00:22:25.000 The number one contender.

00:22:26.000 I like it.

00:22:26.000 That's a wisdom of crowds.

00:22:27.000 I like it.

00:22:28.000 I think it's a bad idea, and I think it's going to lead to a lot of trouble if you just leave it up to the UFC brass to make all these decisions.

00:22:35.000 I don't know.

00:22:35.000 Even though I work for the UFC, and I've worked for the UFC forever, people ask me questions.

00:22:39.000 I don't know.

00:22:40.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:22:40.000 I don't know who the fuck does it. 1.00

00:22:42.000 I don't know who makes the rankings. 1.00

00:22:43.000 I don't know shit. 0.97

00:22:44.000 When I get to work, this is what I do. 0.98

00:22:45.000 When I get to the UFC, I say hi to everybody.

00:22:47.000 I hug everybody.

00:22:48.000 I get excited.

00:22:49.000 I go, okay. 0.98

00:22:49.000 I fucking believe this. 0.98

00:22:50.000 I start going over the matchups. 0.99

00:22:54.000 I've already watched video on fucking everybody on the card pretty much by then. 1.00

00:22:58.000 And when I say I don't do research, I'm kind of full of shit. 0.99

00:23:02.000 But it's not that I don't. 0.99

00:23:04.000 I don't do it as research.

00:23:05.000 I just do it because I go, oh, Colby Covington.

00:23:07.000 You're a fan. 0.97

00:23:08.000 How's he fucking gonna handle this dude? 1.00

00:23:09.000 This guy's got a nasty... 1.00

00:23:10.000 Weary Alves got a fucking wicked guillotine. 1.00

00:23:12.000 Like, if they go... 1.00

00:23:13.000 If he tries to take this kid to the ground, he's gonna shoot for that double. 1.00

00:23:16.000 He's gonna get caught in that guillotine. 0.99

00:23:17.000 It's not your job to know all that stuff, though. 1.00

00:23:18.000 Weary Alves is a fucking nasty kickboxer. 0.99

00:23:20.000 He's gonna want to take this guy down. 0.99

00:23:21.000 But it is my job, sort of.

00:23:23.000 No, I'm saying you shouldn't know, like, the rankings and how everyone decides that.

00:23:26.000 But I'm just saying that I would do everything that I do, even if I wasn't working for the UFC. Right.

00:23:31.000 Just because I'm freaking out about these events, and that's just what I get into.

00:23:34.000 It's your passion.

00:23:34.000 But let me...

00:23:35.000 But hold on a second. 0.98

00:23:36.000 I don't know what the fuck is going on besides that. 0.99

00:23:40.000 When I get there, when I show up, I say my highs, I get my shit, they put the mic on me, I high-five Goldberg, we hug each other, here we go. 0.99

00:23:47.000 You know what the thing is though? 0.96

00:23:48.000 I don't know what's going on.

00:23:49.000 We care more about your opinion than You know, especially the public.

00:23:53.000 Well, it's an informed opinion.

00:23:54.000 Well, some people are mad, though.

00:23:55.000 This is what we got into the beginning, that I said that I don't think that it's smart to have Aldo fight right away.

00:24:02.000 My opinion is that, first of all, Aldo got knocked dead.

00:24:06.000 Okay?

00:24:07.000 When you get knocked dead like that, you need a long time off.

00:24:09.000 You need at least six months off.

00:24:11.000 Conor McGregor could fight next Tuesday.

00:24:13.000 Yes.

00:24:13.000 And I think that Frankie Edgar could also fight next Tuesday.

00:24:17.000 Yes, 100%. 0.97

00:24:17.000 I also think that that fight will be fucking bananas. 0.97

00:24:21.000 And for a fan, I am so excited to watch that fight because I think Frankie has a really dangerous style for a guy like Conor who's taken down repeatedly by Chad Mendes. 0.99

00:24:32.000 He's a fucking nasty wrestler. 0.98

00:24:34.000 His cardio is off the chain. 1.00

00:24:35.000 His footwork is fantastic.

00:24:37.000 He's got Mark Henry in his corner.

00:24:39.000 They're gonna come up with a badass game plan. 1.00

00:24:41.000 Between Henry and Kavanaugh and Frankie, who's a fucking winner, and Conor, who's a fucking winner. 1.00

00:24:48.000 What? 1.00

00:24:49.000 Goddamn! 0.99

00:24:50.000 What would you be most excited about? 0.99

00:24:53.000 You ready for this?

00:24:54.000 Yes.

00:24:55.000 Cowboy to beat Dos Anchos.

00:24:56.000 Dos Anchos, Conor in Dublin in front of 80,000 fans.

00:24:59.000 Oh yeah, 100%.

00:25:00.000 Huh?

00:25:01.000 100%.

00:25:01.000 Huh?

00:25:02.000 100%.

00:25:03.000 You're right.

00:25:03.000 Think about marketing the title.

00:25:05.000 Donald Cerrone, Conor, I know, but guys, but here's the problem with that.

00:25:09.000 Wait, let me just say one thing.

00:25:11.000 That's a giant F. Yeah. 0.98

00:25:13.000 Rafael Dos Anjos is a fucking beast, and I think those two are going to clash, and who knows what's going to happen, especially since Dos Anjos beat Cowboy the first fight. 0.98

00:25:21.000 I think it's going to be a wild, wicked fight. 0.99

00:25:23.000 Drug testing.

00:25:24.000 No, but you're right.

00:25:25.000 Oh, drug testing.

00:25:26.000 Did you just say drug testing?

00:25:26.000 There's going to be that CRF. But wait, wait.

00:25:28.000 Drug testing.

00:25:29.000 Take me back for a second.

00:25:30.000 Let me say one thing about...

00:25:32.000 You've got to give Jose Aldo a rematch, in my opinion, for two reasons.

00:25:36.000 One, I think that at the end of the day, he was the champion for 10 years, and if anybody's earned a shot.

00:25:44.000 Two, I believe, I think Conor McGregor has a secret, which is he's watching these guys strike and knows something they don't know.

00:25:54.000 That two doesn't matter.

00:25:55.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:25:56.000 Because that's just saying who you think is going to win.

00:25:57.000 What I'm saying is this.

00:25:59.000 When you knock a champion who's been that dominant and that good for 10 years out in 14 seconds, there is a question which is, was that in some ways...

00:26:11.000 A fluke.

00:26:12.000 Did he make one mistake and pay for it, which can happen in MMA with those small gloves?

00:26:17.000 Does he get another shot to at least give us a longer fight?

00:26:20.000 Conor goes, he's going to come out extremely aggressive, I'm going to counter and not come out.

00:26:23.000 I know that, and I think you see the video of him warming up in the dressing room, and then in contrast, like a split screen with him warming up right next to the actual fight itself.

00:26:33.000 He was preparing exactly for that maneuver.

00:26:36.000 He was mimicking He's mimicking Aldo's face-first movement, and he does this little slight step to his right hand side.

00:26:43.000 He makes an adjustment, he throws the first left hand, the first hand doesn't land, so if you watch him moving, he throws that side kick to the leg, then he makes a very slight step to the right.

00:26:53.000 Aldo moves to the right hand.

00:26:56.000 He knows something.

00:26:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:26:59.000 I think that he would fight him again and knock him out again.

00:27:02.000 That's irrelevant.

00:27:03.000 I think the champion gets a rematch.

00:27:06.000 I think he deserves it.

00:27:07.000 I really do.

00:27:08.000 Here's the thing.

00:27:09.000 It ties up the title.

00:27:11.000 For a long time, and you have all these contenders.

00:27:13.000 Yeah.

00:27:14.000 You have an amazing list of contenders.

00:27:16.000 How about this? 0.99

00:27:17.000 How about you have Jose Aldo fight Max Holloway, and you have a fucking great fight between one of the top contenders and Max Holloway, this young, exciting kid, 24 years old, beating everybody, just figured out Jeremy Stevens, he's elusive, he's slick, he puts on a fucking show. 1.00

00:27:33.000 He's a motherfucker. 1.00

00:27:34.000 He has crazy cardio, he's driven and fired up, and you can't quite have him fight for the title yet, because Frankie's ahead of him, and the division is super exciting. 1.00

00:27:44.000 Frankie fucking cleared the way, man!

00:27:46.000 Frankie was pissed he didn't get the shot when Chad got it. 0.99

00:27:49.000 After he beat Uriah, they thought that Frankie, his safety first style against Uriah was boring.

00:27:55.000 He won a decision.

00:27:56.000 He didn't try to finish him.

00:27:57.000 Chad went out and blew Ricardo Lamas out of the water.

00:28:00.000 Chad gets the shot. 1.00

00:28:01.000 Frankie's like, what the fuck? 1.00

00:28:02.000 Look what I did to Cub Swanson. 1.00

00:28:04.000 Look what I did to all these other people.

00:28:05.000 So then what does he do?

00:28:06.000 He goes out there and takes it out on Chad.

00:28:09.000 Murks him.

00:28:10.000 Puts him away.

00:28:11.000 In my opinion, as a fan, I'm excited to see that.

00:28:15.000 I think...

00:28:15.000 Here's another thing.

00:28:17.000 I really believe this wholeheartedly, and I think this is a very important point. 0.98

00:28:22.000 Fighters should wait a long fucking time after they get knocked out like that. 0.98

00:28:26.000 He got cleaned, he got flatlined, and then he got hammer-fisted while he was out. 0.99

00:28:33.000 He got up, and he was asking what happened.

00:28:36.000 He was putting his hands up, he was going, I don't know what he was saying, because he was speaking in Portuguese, because he was shaking his head, and they were nodding their head.

00:28:41.000 They were saying, yes, it happened.

00:28:42.000 He goes, no, no, no, and they were going, yes, yes, yes.

00:28:44.000 Here's the other thing, Joe, that a lot of people aren't talking about. 0.99

00:28:46.000 I hate to be a stickler, and I took some fucking... 1.00

00:28:49.000 Shit for saying this. 1.00

00:28:51.000 You're batshit crazy if you don't think Jose Aldo's body looked different. 1.00

00:28:55.000 You're batshit crazy if you think he's going to fight the same. 0.99

00:28:58.000 Also, and all these people want to give me all the shit for it, his camp I think is 1-7, 0-8 since his drug testing came out. 0.99

00:29:06.000 So you're talking about a different fighter, man. 0.98

00:29:08.000 A completely different fighter.

00:29:09.000 So for me, that's a huge X factor.

00:29:11.000 There was a leaked audio from inside the truck of me saying that.

00:29:17.000 When the audio goes out, there's an audio feed when the main event happens.

00:29:21.000 And when that main event audio feed goes out, anybody could listen to it that is picking up the feed to air it and broadcast.

00:29:29.000 And I said that his body looked deflated.

00:29:31.000 It looked smooth.

00:29:32.000 Wow.

00:29:33.000 And that I felt like he looked really nervous. 0.99

00:29:36.000 I said he looked nervous as fuck. 0.98

00:29:37.000 And I said, I don't want to jump to conclusions. 0.99

00:29:38.000 He might just be doing a lot of cardio.

00:29:40.000 Which is possible.

00:29:41.000 Because one of all those big problems, and Dana White said this in a perfect way of describing it, that Aldo's the very best fighter ever for two rounds.

00:29:50.000 And then he would always gas, and then he would always sort of coast. 0.59

00:29:53.000 Like Ricardo Lamas, he beat the shit out of Lamas in the first round. 0.70

00:29:55.000 The end of the fifth round, Ricardo Lamas was on top, grounding, pounding him. 0.93

00:29:58.000 Hominick, too. 0.99

00:29:59.000 Mark Hominick, same goddamn thing. 0.99

00:30:01.000 Well, he was on antibiotics with Hominick, but yeah, for staff, I think. 0.99

00:30:04.000 So that was...

00:30:05.000 I never heard that.

00:30:06.000 Where'd you hear that?

00:30:07.000 I think when he fought Hominick, he had just done, he'd had staff and he'd done a whole thing on antibiotics.

00:30:12.000 Google that, Jamie, see if that's true. 0.98

00:30:14.000 But, well, how about Luke Rockhold won the fucking title on antibiotics. 0.95

00:30:20.000 Denny Propagos won his first match in EBI yesterday. 0.99

00:30:23.000 He was dying of staff. 1.00

00:30:25.000 If you fake in antibiotics, they're a motherfucker. 1.00

00:30:27.000 Denny was in the hospital for weeks. 1.00

00:30:28.000 Wow.

00:30:28.000 Denny was dying from staff just a couple of months ago.

00:30:31.000 Were you surprised by Luke's domination like that?

00:30:34.000 Totally surprised.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 Totally surprised by a lot of things.

00:30:37.000 We totally should get to that.

00:30:38.000 Yeah.

00:30:38.000 But I don't know if Aldo had concentrated more on cardio or if he had gotten off steroids.

00:30:46.000 But I do know, and this is non-specific.

00:30:50.000 There's a huge problem in MMA with steroids.

00:30:54.000 It is a huge problem.

00:30:55.000 And that problem is being cut away like cancer by this new program by Jeff Nowitzki.

00:31:02.000 I also know that they tried to test Aldo in camp and all those people had the cops pulled on these people.

00:31:07.000 They wanted to get him kicked out of the country.

00:31:09.000 They were trying to deport them out of the country.

00:31:12.000 Then when they finally did give him a urine sample, he tripped and spilled his piss.

00:31:18.000 Is this not weird to anyone?

00:31:20.000 That's insane.

00:31:21.000 It doesn't take anything away.

00:31:22.000 I've never tripped and spilled piss in my entire career of pissing.

00:31:24.000 Honestly, I have.

00:31:26.000 I piss in cups all the time.

00:31:28.000 It doesn't piss.

00:31:29.000 Okay, it turns out Feathery Alda was covering from an undisclosed infection.

00:31:31.000 It was on antibiotics.

00:31:33.000 Good call, Callan.

00:31:33.000 Come on, guys.

00:31:35.000 Well, the thing is, I should know that.

00:31:36.000 It doesn't take away anything that Alda's done in his career, even if he is.

00:31:40.000 I'm not saying he's never failed a test, so who knows.

00:31:42.000 When he did Lance Armstrong.

00:31:43.000 There you go.

00:31:44.000 All I'm saying is, same with Lance Armstrong, same with baseball, Barry Bonds too. 1.00

00:31:49.000 The guys throwing the pitch are on some shit. 1.00

00:31:52.000 Everyone's on some shit. 1.00

00:31:53.000 Aldo's great. 1.00

00:31:54.000 No matter whether he's honored or not, he's greatness.

00:31:56.000 Listen, Jose Aldo is one of the greatest pound-for-pound fighters ever.

00:32:00.000 Ever.

00:32:01.000 Ever.

00:32:01.000 And to go on a 10-year run like that, you know, and the UFC has said, like, hey, you know, he plays it safe, and he goes to decisions, he shouldn't do that, but you know what else?

00:32:09.000 He's great.

00:32:10.000 But here's the thing. 0.99

00:32:11.000 He fucking wins, and... 0.99

00:32:14.000 Him risking losing to unload on somebody, like Uriah Faber did. 0.99

00:32:19.000 Uriah Faber fought Frankie Sainz, and Uriah sort of faded in that fight.

00:32:23.000 But the reason why he faded is because he landed a bomb on Frankie Sainz, rocked him, and then went after him. 1.00

00:32:29.000 That fucking Frankie Sainz guy is tough as shit. 0.99

00:32:32.000 This is a 35-year-old guy who's got one other fight in the UFC, maybe two, and then he's fighting Uriah motherfucking Faber, which is crazy. 0.99

00:32:43.000 He's ranked 13, yeah.

00:32:45.000 Yeah, but Uriah Faber is one of the most experienced guys and one of the best guys ever to not win a UFC title, right?

00:32:51.000 He's only lost a title fight.

00:32:52.000 Yeah, so he bombs on this guy and nails him with a knee to the, I think it was a temple.

00:32:59.000 Hurts him. 0.91

00:32:59.000 Hurts him bad. 0.91

00:33:01.000 I mean, the kid is all over the place and Uriah is unloading on him and somehow the guy survives.

00:33:05.000 And then Uriah is like, he's like, oh boy.

00:33:08.000 You can see on his face.

00:33:09.000 He's like, Jesus.

00:33:10.000 He took a deep breath and kind of looked at the clock and was like, You know better than anybody that when you unload like that, that's never how anybody fights.

00:33:17.000 So when you unload like that, you're going all in.

00:33:20.000 You're pushing all your chips, and this guy just pulls out four aces. 1.00

00:33:22.000 You're like, boom, bitch! 1.00

00:33:23.000 Yeah, but that's when you gotta use... 1.00

00:33:25.000 Carwin Lesnar!

00:33:26.000 Carwin Lesnar is the perfect example.

00:33:28.000 Trust me.

00:33:29.000 You guys never use Palm Strike.

00:33:31.000 That might be it.

00:33:32.000 Dude, how about Uriah goes, our friendship's done.

00:33:35.000 TJ Dillashaw, Uriah.

00:33:37.000 What?

00:33:37.000 Why?

00:33:38.000 He was saying it's going to be like Rocky and the good guy's going to win.

00:33:41.000 Wait, why?

00:33:42.000 What happened?

00:33:43.000 Him and TJ, they had a falling out because TJ went to Muscle Farm.

00:33:46.000 Muscle Farm offered him... 0.98

00:33:48.000 Goddammit. 0.98

00:33:48.000 I don't follow the... 0.98

00:33:49.000 Well, one of the reasons why TJ went to Muscle Farm is two reasons.

00:33:53.000 One, money, but two, Dwayne Ludwig.

00:33:55.000 Dwayne Ludwig and TJ have a fantastic working relationship. 0.99

00:33:59.000 Dwayne Ludwig is a fucking... 1.00

00:34:01.000 He's got some crazy mental disorder that makes him concentrate on fighting every single second of every day. 1.00

00:34:07.000 I think he's got a running thing. 0.69

00:34:09.000 I think he could be hanging out with his wife, going to the movies, eating dinner, talking about baseball.

00:34:15.000 In the back of his head, he's watching...

00:34:17.000 Counter right hands, leg kicks, movements.

00:34:20.000 Obsession.

00:34:21.000 He's like the rain man of fighting.

00:34:22.000 He's obsessed, man.

00:34:23.000 He's obsessed.

00:34:24.000 And that's exactly what you want from a trainer.

00:34:26.000 TJ recognizes that.

00:34:27.000 And his personality and Dwayne's personality jive.

00:34:30.000 Whereas Uriah's personality and Dwayne's personality were water and oil. 0.98

00:34:34.000 They fucking clashed. 0.99

00:34:35.000 Hardcore. 0.99

00:34:36.000 And Uriah never wanted to have anything to do with that guy. 1.00

00:34:38.000 He was like, fuck this guy. 1.00

00:34:39.000 And Dwayne and him didn't get along. 1.00

00:34:41.000 And Dwayne was like, fuck him. 1.00

00:34:42.000 And they argued about stupid shit. 1.00

00:34:44.000 Money. 1.00

00:34:45.000 Here's something that a lot of people don't know.

00:34:47.000 There was a point in time where we were considering buying that gym.

00:34:51.000 Onnit was going to...

00:34:52.000 Onnit.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, we were going to buy the Ultimate Training Center.

00:34:55.000 We were thinking about buying it and making that team like an Onnit team.

00:34:59.000 And we were talking to those guys about how to make this work.

00:35:02.000 But it was right when they were starting to go at it, when Dwayne and Uriah were trying to go at it.

00:35:07.000 And we were like, first of all, I was going to have to figure out, like, how would I do this and be impartial?

00:35:12.000 It's very difficult to do.

00:35:14.000 I love Cowboy Cerrone. 0.98

00:35:17.000 I fucking love that guy. 0.90

00:35:18.000 He's awesome. 0.97

00:35:19.000 I hang out with him when I'm in Denver.

00:35:21.000 Love him.

00:35:21.000 He's the best.

00:35:23.000 He's just an amazing personality.

00:35:26.000 I just want to hug him when I see him.

00:35:27.000 Yeah, you want to be around Cowboy.

00:35:28.000 And he's just a true badass to his bone.

00:35:31.000 I deeply respect Rafael Dos Anjos.

00:35:35.000 I think he's a great fighter.

00:35:36.000 I think he's a great guy.

00:35:36.000 I went to see him.

00:35:37.000 He's very friendly.

00:35:38.000 And, you know, I was...

00:35:40.000 Who was telling me that they were... 0.99

00:35:42.000 Who the fuck was it? 1.00

00:35:44.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:35:45.000 I'm drawing a blank. 0.99

00:35:46.000 Someone was telling me that they were hanging out with him somewhere and he was helping them out and telling them where the best places to eat.

00:35:53.000 Rafael with me in Brazil.

00:35:54.000 Oh, that's right.

00:35:55.000 It was you.

00:35:55.000 It was me, brother.

00:35:57.000 Oh, my God.

00:35:58.000 Rafael's like the nicest guy ever.

00:35:59.000 He's the best.

00:36:00.000 I also do UFC now with him every now and then.

00:36:01.000 He's a great guy.

00:36:03.000 So I have to be completely impartial.

00:36:05.000 I have to figure out how to separate myself.

00:36:08.000 But is it even...

00:36:10.000 Can you even ask...

00:36:12.000 Can I ask myself to do that if I owned a gym and I had fighters that were fighting against guys who weren't...

00:36:17.000 Like your team that you own, basically.

00:36:19.000 You know what...

00:36:20.000 I mean, I don't know, man.

00:36:21.000 Everybody always thinks that people are always going to feel like you're biased in some way or another.

00:36:26.000 If they're rooting for someone and you're calling the fight against that person that they're rooting for, they're going to consider some sort of bias.

00:36:34.000 I think you do.

00:36:35.000 I've never heard you be biased when you call fights. 1.00

00:36:38.000 Oh, when I fought Arlovsky, you were like, fuck that Russian! 1.00

00:36:41.000 I was like, oh shit, Joe! 1.00

00:36:42.000 Damn, Doug! 1.00

00:36:44.000 Take his ass down! 1.00

00:36:45.000 No one's ever been harder than you. 1.00

00:36:47.000 Hardest fights ever to call.

00:36:49.000 When you lost to Travis, I was broken up, man.

00:36:56.000 It was hard.

00:36:56.000 You turned to me and said, at least he didn't get hurt.

00:36:58.000 That's the important thing.

00:36:59.000 It was hard.

00:37:00.000 That was hard.

00:37:00.000 Callan was right behind me.

00:37:01.000 He was sitting right behind me.

00:37:03.000 That was a hard fight.

00:37:03.000 I remember when the Arlovsky fight came in, you're like...

00:37:06.000 Close. 1.00

00:37:07.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:37:09.000 Well, it was close. 1.00

00:37:10.000 It was super close.

00:37:11.000 Super close fight.

00:37:12.000 But again, you know, it's a tricky...

00:37:17.000 So this is all...

00:37:18.000 We were just talking about Dwayne and Uriah.

00:37:21.000 They just didn't get along.

00:37:22.000 Which is so... 0.99

00:37:23.000 It's such a fucking bummer. 0.93

00:37:26.000 Because if their personalities did, I almost felt like, man, if there's a middleman here that comes in and sorts all this stuff, I felt like, what is the issue? 0.98

00:37:34.000 Is this a financial thing?

00:37:35.000 It's just a personality thing.

00:37:37.000 It's two alphas, personalities, guys, guys who get territorial, guys who want...

00:37:42.000 It's a police system.

00:37:43.000 Uriah is a really strong personality, and he's also super organized and...

00:37:48.000 Successful.

00:37:49.000 Super successful and super focused.

00:37:51.000 Yes.

00:37:52.000 Uriah is like...

00:37:54.000 He's a very admirable person.

00:37:56.000 When you watch how he conducts business.

00:37:58.000 And also, look at the tight-knit bond that he's created with his team.

00:38:02.000 You only create that kind of a bond when you're that kind of a leader.

00:38:06.000 And that's what he is.

00:38:07.000 And so for him, when TJ took off and went to this muscle farm camp, I'm sure there was a knife in his back. 0.99

00:38:14.000 It was fucking devastating. 0.95

00:38:16.000 Well, T.J. and Uriah should fight no matter what happens with T.J. and Dominick Cruz. 0.98

00:38:20.000 That fight has to happen.

00:38:21.000 You really think so?

00:38:22.000 I'm so excited about the T.J. and Dominick Cruz.

00:38:24.000 Just for the excitement of it.

00:38:25.000 Yes.

00:38:25.000 The backstory.

00:38:26.000 We love a good story.

00:38:27.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:38:28.000 It'd be so dope. 0.97

00:38:29.000 Yeah, we do.

00:38:31.000 That Dominick Cruz-T.J. fight might be...

00:38:33.000 One of the greatest fights ever.

00:38:35.000 What if Dominic wins and then Uriah and TJ fight for number one contender status?

00:38:41.000 But Uriah and Dominic have a history too.

00:38:43.000 That's not a bad story either.

00:38:45.000 It's not a bad story.

00:38:46.000 Can you think of another more compelling contender that would be ahead of Uriah besides TJ? Like say if Dominic beats TJ or whoever wins that fight, who would be next in line for the title instead of Uriah?

00:39:03.000 Who else?

00:39:04.000 Hennenbrough.

00:39:06.000 Isn't it hard?

00:39:07.000 He could make the argument.

00:39:07.000 He could make the argument, but he's gonna have to win again.

00:39:09.000 He got destroyed in his last fight.

00:39:11.000 T.J. didn't just beat him.

00:39:14.000 He lit him up like a Christmas tree, covered him with gasoline, and lit him on fire.

00:39:19.000 Drug testing.

00:39:20.000 And threw him off a cliff.

00:39:22.000 I mean, there was not a moment in that fight other than the first initial exchanges where he was fired up.

00:39:28.000 It was like Bully BJ. I feel like TJ and Dominick Cruz have such similar styles.

00:39:32.000 I almost feel like Dwayne watched a lot of Dominick Cruz fights and kind of...

00:39:38.000 Am I wrong about that?

00:39:39.000 Well, there's a lot of guys that are employing that sort of neo footwork movement now, but I think Dominic was the best at it the earliest.

00:39:46.000 He's so elusive.

00:39:49.000 You get used to a guy, like here's a different weight class, but there's a quintessential Muay Thai style striker, like Tiago Silva. 0.89

00:39:58.000 Stands right in front of you, And he's got that fucking rhythm, and he's, you know, he's not mobile.

00:40:04.000 And then you got the complete polar opposite, which is like Conor. 0.96

00:40:08.000 Conor is like, when you see Conor fighting Aldo, he's sliding in, he's sliding out.

00:40:12.000 Like, he's very difficult to judge.

00:40:14.000 In my opinion, the best ever at that is Dominic.

00:40:16.000 Dominic's all over the place. 0.93

00:40:18.000 Like, he's fucking moving, he's sliding, he's over here, he's over there. 0.99

00:40:22.000 And you're trying to figure out when you can uncork a punch. 0.99

00:40:25.000 Like, good luck timing that guy.

00:40:26.000 Have you ever had a conversation with Dominic?

00:40:28.000 No.

00:40:28.000 Very, very smart guy.

00:40:30.000 He might have the highest MMA IQ I've ever seen.

00:40:32.000 Wow.

00:40:32.000 I agree with you.

00:40:33.000 I agree with you. 0.98

00:40:33.000 His IQ is insane. 0.98

00:40:35.000 He's my favorite out of those guys that breaks down fights and analyzes what went wrong and why it went wrong.

00:40:40.000 He's a real student.

00:40:41.000 One time, Dominic and Chael Sonnen and myself went to Unbreakable Gym, and we were training with Chael before Chael was fighting Jon Jones, and we were training Chael, and Dominic was breaking things down. 0.99

00:40:51.000 I was like, holy fuck. 0.99

00:40:53.000 This kid's an oracle. 0.99

00:40:55.000 And also, he's had all this time while he's been injured to think and work on things, and it's not like he stopped paying attention to MMA. He's been focusing on it, whereas if he hadn't been injured,

00:41:10.000 he'd be in camps, getting ready for fights.

00:41:12.000 It almost might have benefited his MMA IQ to have that time off and to be obsessed with returning.

00:41:18.000 He tore both ACLs, and you've had that surgery?

00:41:22.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 When you get ACL surgery nowadays, is your knee as strong?

00:41:29.000 Stronger.

00:41:30.000 It's stronger.

00:41:31.000 It's quite a bit stronger.

00:41:33.000 Really?

00:41:34.000 My right knee has a cadaver graft.

00:41:37.000 It had a cadaver graft.

00:41:38.000 And what the cadaver graft does is they take an Achilles tendon, which is way thicker than a regular ACL, and then they put it in place, and then your body re-proliferates that Stem cells or whatever.

00:41:51.000 It acts as a scaffolding.

00:41:52.000 Not stem cells.

00:41:53.000 Your body grows.

00:41:54.000 They connect it and your body starts putting blood through it and then growing new tissue.

00:42:01.000 Wow.

00:42:01.000 So your ACL becomes your own.

00:42:05.000 I had a cadaver graft, but those cells are not cadaver cells that are in my knee.

00:42:10.000 They're your cells now.

00:42:10.000 Those are my cells.

00:42:11.000 But it's way thicker than it would have been.

00:42:14.000 It's 150% stronger than a regular ACL. Jesus Christ.

00:42:17.000 So that's the case maybe with Dominic's He tore the same one twice and then tore the other one, right?

00:42:22.000 Well, he tore one twice, tore the other one, then he tore his groin.

00:42:26.000 Yes.

00:42:26.000 And he broke both his hands.

00:42:29.000 He's a fragile guy.

00:42:30.000 Yeah.

00:42:30.000 Like, when I had him on one of those UFC interview shows, he was joking around.

00:42:34.000 He was showing me scars in his hands. 0.99

00:42:36.000 I got bitch hands. 1.00

00:42:37.000 It is what it is. 1.00

00:42:38.000 I got bitch hands. 1.00

00:42:38.000 You know, this guy, Gray Cook, this guy, Gray Cook, who does full body, like the NFL now has what's called a full body screening or some functional body screening. 1.00

00:42:47.000 The UFC's got that now, too, at their new campus.

00:42:49.000 Yeah, because they would bring him in, and he would find amazing athletes, and then one guy kept tearing.

00:42:54.000 He'd run, and he kept tearing his groin.

00:42:56.000 He kept tearing the tendon that attached to his pelvis to his quad, and they couldn't figure it out.

00:43:02.000 And he's the guy who comes in and goes, I know what the problem is.

00:43:04.000 You're off balance.

00:43:06.000 One side of your body is stronger than the other, and that's a huge issue.

00:43:09.000 It's really common.

00:43:10.000 Yeah, so now the training centers around, you know, Basically finding out where you're weak.

00:43:17.000 You know what's really common?

00:43:19.000 With pitchers, because you throw in with one arm, and kickers, like NFL kickers, they have real problems with that, like back problems.

00:43:27.000 I'm sure.

00:43:28.000 Because you're always kicking that one leg.

00:43:30.000 For boxing, it's the same way.

00:43:31.000 For Dominic, though, it's years of wrestling.

00:43:33.000 He's a champion forever.

00:43:35.000 He's only had one loss.

00:43:37.000 It adds up.

00:43:38.000 You can chalk it up to inbounds.

00:43:40.000 No, man.

00:43:40.000 The only guy that ever beat him was Uriah.

00:43:42.000 Uriah caught him with a guillotine. 0.94

00:43:45.000 Well, Uriah gets your neck. 1.00

00:43:46.000 You've got fucking giant problems. 1.00

00:43:48.000 People forget Dominic Cruz beat Demetrius Johnson. 1.00

00:43:50.000 He beat DJ. Did he?

00:43:52.000 He did. 1.00

00:43:52.000 Damn. 1.00

00:43:53.000 But they also forget that was DJ that didn't live anywhere near Matt Hume. 0.99

00:43:57.000 He was coming into town once a week.

00:43:59.000 This is a fact.

00:44:00.000 He wasn't training.

00:44:01.000 The Ian McCall fight was the big turnaround for DJ. And I had him on the podcast and he talked about it.

00:44:07.000 Because, you know, Ian fucking rattled his cage and hurt him. 0.96

00:44:10.000 He had vertigo after that fight. 1.00

00:44:11.000 He was pretty fucked up. 1.00

00:44:12.000 And... 1.00

00:44:14.000 Matt Hume pulled him aside and said, look, you got to stop fucking around. 0.99

00:44:17.000 Like, we're going to do this or you should maybe get an education. 0.99

00:44:20.000 Like, you should figure out what the fuck you're going to do with your life, but this ain't it. 0.98

00:44:23.000 Like, you got to figure it out. 0.98

00:44:24.000 And so he went all in, moved near the gym, and now he's there five days a week, and look at him now.

00:44:30.000 I'm just saying Dom beat him.

00:44:32.000 Yeah, he did.

00:44:33.000 Different one, though.

00:44:34.000 And different weight class.

00:44:35.000 Different weight class, different guy.

00:44:37.000 Dimitri's a tiny guy.

00:44:39.000 He's much smaller than Dom.

00:44:40.000 Dom's tiny.

00:44:40.000 He is thin, but he's taller and longer and bigger, and like 135 is a cut for him.

00:44:46.000 Demetrius Johnson has to put a rock in his pocket to make 135. Wow.

00:44:50.000 He's not a big guy.

00:44:50.000 They're both different fighters.

00:44:51.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 Completely different.

00:44:52.000 Totally different fighters.

00:44:53.000 They're much better now.

00:44:54.000 Both of them are.

00:44:55.000 Both of them are better now. 0.94

00:44:57.000 I'm fucking so excited for that fight. 0.96

00:44:59.000 I'm going to be there. 0.98

00:44:59.000 It's in January. 0.98

00:45:00.000 Boston, right?

00:45:01.000 Yep.

00:45:02.000 TJ. Are you doing the Florida card?

00:45:04.000 Tomorrow?

00:45:05.000 Or next week, rather?

00:45:06.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 This weekend?

00:45:07.000 Friday?

00:45:07.000 Saturday?

00:45:08.000 Whatever it is.

00:45:08.000 Yeah, that's a good card.

00:45:09.000 That's a good card.

00:45:10.000 Really good card.

00:45:10.000 That's Orlovsky versus...

00:45:12.000 I mean, not Orlovsky.

00:45:13.000 That's boss.

00:45:13.000 Junior Dos Santos versus Alistair Overeem is on that card, too.

00:45:17.000 Overeem.

00:45:17.000 Diaz, Johnson.

00:45:19.000 Yeah, Michael Johnson versus Nate Diaz.

00:45:22.000 Jury's on that fight card, too.

00:45:23.000 Miles Jury.

00:45:24.000 Is Miles Jury down to 145 now?

00:45:27.000 Yeah.

00:45:27.000 Rafael Dos Anjos.

00:45:29.000 Look at the size of Dos Anjos' head.

00:45:31.000 Look at that head.

00:45:32.000 Yeah.

00:45:33.000 My lord.

00:45:35.000 Jury.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, there's Jury Olivia.

00:45:37.000 It's a fucking fight. 0.99

00:45:38.000 Oh yeah, Oliveira. 1.00

00:45:39.000 Charles Oliveira.

00:45:41.000 Oh my god, I didn't even know that was on the card.

00:45:43.000 Hey Nate.

00:45:44.000 Is that it?

00:45:45.000 What do you want to tell him?

00:45:46.000 Stop.

00:45:47.000 I love him.

00:45:49.000 It's been rough watching him the last few fights.

00:45:51.000 Do you think CB just chases after him?

00:45:54.000 Puts it to him?

00:45:55.000 Yes.

00:45:56.000 You kind of got it, right?

00:45:57.000 Yeah, that's what you do.

00:45:58.000 That's how you beat Nate.

00:45:59.000 Get on his back foot and throw bombs.

00:46:00.000 He just seems like he's absorbed so much punishment over the last few years.

00:46:06.000 It's a bummer, man.

00:46:07.000 It is a bummer.

00:46:07.000 CB was on a streak until he got dealt with.

00:46:10.000 Yeah, I mean, CB, Leoto beat him.

00:46:14.000 He hurt him with that body kick.

00:46:15.000 Bad.

00:46:16.000 And who else beat him?

00:46:17.000 The Doberman. 0.99

00:46:18.000 Leoto really fucked him up. 0.96

00:46:20.000 That's what ended his streak. 0.99

00:46:21.000 That left kick, man.

00:46:22.000 That left kick of Leoto is nasty.

00:46:24.000 This card's super interesting, man.

00:46:25.000 Dos Santos over him.

00:46:26.000 I don't know what to tell you. 1.00

00:46:27.000 Again, testing's gonna be a motherfucker. 1.00

00:46:29.000 Is that what you think? 1.00

00:46:30.000 100%. 0.97

00:46:31.000 This fight should have happened three years ago when it was all fucking the Wild Wild West. 0.86

00:46:35.000 I thought they fought before. 0.74

00:46:37.000 Didn't they fight before?

00:46:38.000 Is this the first time they're fighting?

00:46:39.000 No, Brian.

00:46:40.000 This is the first time they're fighting.

00:46:41.000 How do you know so much about Mark Harmonick versus Jose Aldo?

00:46:44.000 I'll make another call.

00:46:45.000 I'll tell you something else.

00:46:46.000 I'll tell you something else.

00:46:47.000 I'll tell you something else.

00:46:48.000 I'd like to see...

00:46:49.000 You guys are going to laugh at me.

00:46:50.000 I'd like to see something.

00:46:52.000 I'd like to see my boyfriend.

00:46:54.000 I'm going to say it. 1.00

00:46:54.000 Don't say something stupid. 1.00

00:46:55.000 I'd like to see my boyfriend, and he is my boyfriend, Luke Rockhold, and my best friend, because I've had dinner with him and hung out with him. 0.99

00:47:02.000 I'd like to see him...

00:47:04.000 Fight Jon Jones.

00:47:07.000 Hey man!

00:47:10.000 I know what he won, bro!

00:47:11.000 Can you ask him to leave?

00:47:12.000 I know what he won! 1.00

00:47:13.000 Whatever weird fantasy shit that you have in your head. 1.00

00:47:17.000 Yeah, it is fantasy shit, so stay out of my head. 1.00

00:47:21.000 You know when you see Weidman vs. 0.99

00:47:24.000 Rockhold and then Weidman wanted to fight Jon Jones for the light heavyweight title.

00:47:28.000 It's a bad idea.

00:47:29.000 Weidman's movement wasn't the same.

00:47:31.000 Weidman looked off to me.

00:47:33.000 He lost a lot of weight.

00:47:34.000 He was in the 190's.

00:47:36.000 Why are you looking at me like that?

00:47:37.000 I don't think so.

00:47:38.000 I think that was a strategy where he said I'm gonna He gave me that he's on steroids, but that's just not the guy.

00:47:44.000 No, not at all.

00:47:45.000 I don't find it.

00:47:46.000 No, this is the something's up.

00:47:48.000 Something's up.

00:47:49.000 I think Weidman said, I'm going to come in there, I'm going to be light, I'm going to hit him with pace, a cardio pace, and I'm going to wear him down.

00:47:55.000 He didn't move, though.

00:47:55.000 Well, I think he did do that.

00:47:57.000 I think that was what he was trying to do.

00:47:59.000 He was working.

00:47:59.000 I mean, he was throwing a lot of, like, not full power kicks to the body, but a lot of pressure.

00:48:04.000 A lot of pressure with his grappling. 0.98

00:48:05.000 He just fucked up throwing that wheel kick, man. 0.99

00:48:07.000 Stay in your lane, son. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Oh my God. 1.00

00:48:09.000 What the fuck are you doing? 1.00

00:48:10.000 That was one of the biggest mistakes in the history of MMA and championship fights. 0.99

00:48:15.000 It's not like a mistake like, you know, you go throw a leg kick and you get countered with the right hand and you get hurt.

00:48:22.000 That's normal stuff.

00:48:23.000 This is a crazy acrobatic move that he's not good at.

00:48:27.000 That cost you the fight!

00:48:30.000 Yeah, he probably was, right?

00:48:31.000 Because that's what knocked out Rockhold. 0.96

00:48:33.000 Maybe he thought he was a sucker for wheel kicks. 0.92

00:48:35.000 The grind is working.

00:48:37.000 When he's taking him down and starting to wear Luke out, especially when he knew Luke was on antibiotics. 1.00

00:48:42.000 Fuck yeah, keep doing that. 0.99

00:48:43.000 I don't think he knew. 1.00

00:48:45.000 He knew that Luke's pace was slowing down.

00:48:48.000 I think what happened was he realized that he was a lot stronger than Chris Weidman.

00:48:52.000 He looked just stronger, bigger, and I think he went, you know what?

00:48:56.000 I wrestled with Cain Velasquez and Daniel Cormier.

00:49:00.000 I'm stronger and bigger than this guy, and that's what happened.

00:49:04.000 I think he just started wrestling.

00:49:04.000 No, that's not what happened at all.

00:49:06.000 He caught him, he made a mistake, and he took him down. 0.99

00:49:08.000 He threw a wheel kick and literally gave his fucking body up. 1.00

00:49:13.000 You get taken down and when Rockhold gets you on the ground his fucking top game is nasty. 1.00

00:49:18.000 Super nasty. 0.97

00:49:19.000 You saw it against Liotto Machida like I would like to see Rockhold in just straight up Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition.

00:49:24.000 I bet he is at a very high level. 0.99

00:49:26.000 Motherfucker. 0.99

00:49:26.000 I just think that's why I'd like to see a rematch. 0.99

00:49:29.000 Say that back kick doesn't happen, we got a hell of a fight on our hands.

00:49:32.000 That's a hell of a fight anyway because that back kick that happened in the third round.

00:49:35.000 I mean this is a fourth round stoppage.

00:49:37.000 And I had it one to one.

00:49:38.000 Yeah.

00:49:39.000 I had it one-to-one.

00:49:39.000 It was a really good fight.

00:49:41.000 It's not like, you know, Weidman came out, guns blazing face first, and Rockhold connected with a straight left like Conor and Aldo.

00:49:48.000 This was like a war, and then at the end of the war, you know, I mean, Rockhold got the advantage, never let it go.

00:49:54.000 But he was also hitting Weidman in the face more.

00:49:56.000 I feel like he was...

00:49:57.000 I feel as though he was kind of standing on the edge of that pocket, and he has hands down, and I felt like Rockhold seemed so confident.

00:50:05.000 Maybe he was gassed, but he looked like he was just confident enough to just...

00:50:08.000 He knew where those shots were coming and they would counter.

00:50:10.000 He was hitting him in the face more.

00:50:12.000 Weidman was pressuring him. 0.88

00:50:13.000 He was kicking him in his body.

00:50:15.000 Weidman's kicks were really paying off to the body.

00:50:18.000 He was throwing a lot of body kicks.

00:50:19.000 So were Luke's though.

00:50:20.000 In the beginning of the fight.

00:50:22.000 They were hard.

00:50:23.000 He didn't land any flesh.

00:50:25.000 God, he kicks hard.

00:50:27.000 God, your cage side, what does that look like?

00:50:29.000 He's one of the hardest kickers in the division, for sure.

00:50:32.000 Rock holds long, and you know what's interesting?

00:50:34.000 When I talked to Javier Mendez, I said, did he have a traditional martial arts background?

00:50:38.000 He goes, nope.

00:50:39.000 He came to me when he was 17. I'm like, that's crazy.

00:50:41.000 Surfer. 0.96

00:50:42.000 Yeah, because when you watch the flexibility and dexterity, the looseness of his legs, like when he throws that question mark kick off the front leg, he's so fucking loose. 0.73

00:50:53.000 Cerrone style. 0.98

00:50:54.000 Yeah, it's like Cerrone's had Muay Thai for fucking years and years. 0.99

00:50:58.000 But look at Rockhold's genetics. 0.99

00:50:59.000 His dad was a professional basketball player, his brother's a professional surfer.

00:51:03.000 You have this monster just looming waiting to find something.

00:51:07.000 Then he found his call in MMA. At 17?

00:51:10.000 I think what we're starting to see is we're getting guys who are martial artists, but they're really good athletes, and that's who's taking over.

00:51:16.000 Holly Holm?

00:51:17.000 John Jones.

00:51:18.000 Freak athlete.

00:51:18.000 John Jones?

00:51:19.000 Freak athlete.

00:51:20.000 Look at all of them. 0.73

00:51:21.000 I think you're totally right.

00:51:23.000 Rockhold?

00:51:23.000 Freak athlete.

00:51:24.000 I think you're totally right.

00:51:26.000 I think, it's just so shocking to me, out of all those, that I see, well, Holly obviously has a long, extensive kickboxing background under Winklejohn as a fantastic trainer, but the thing that freaks me out the most about Rockhold is the flexibility and dexterity of his legs.

00:51:40.000 It takes so long to develop that kind of whip.

00:51:44.000 His kicks aren't just hard.

00:51:46.000 Weidman has strong kicks.

00:51:47.000 They're strong.

00:51:48.000 He throws them, but there's a stiffness to him that Rockhold doesn't have.

00:51:53.000 Rockhold's got a taekwondo thing going on.

00:51:56.000 And big. 1.00

00:51:56.000 He's a big fucking guy. 1.00

00:51:59.000 He was 216 in San Jose when we were hanging out. 1.00

00:52:01.000 I said, how much do you weigh?

00:52:02.000 He was 216. Of course I did.

00:52:05.000 I took him in.

00:52:06.000 I took him in.

00:52:08.000 Don't kid yourself.

00:52:09.000 Had my hand on his back a couple times.

00:52:12.000 I'm not making this up either.

00:52:14.000 Brian came back from hanging out with Luke, got his haircut just like him. 1.00

00:52:17.000 I went, what the fuck are you doing? 0.97

00:52:18.000 He goes, I was around Luke, so I wanted to get my haircut like him. 1.00

00:52:21.000 I went, you're 48 copying of Zen Man.

00:52:23.000 I looked him in the eye and I went, I got his haircut exactly like Luke.

00:52:26.000 We go to a bar and I looked at him and we caught eyes and I looked at him and I went, I told you.

00:52:30.000 And he goes, he smiled and he went, 6'3".

00:52:33.000 And I go, of course you are.

00:52:35.000 And I looked at his hair and I go, I don't like how you got deeper with your voice there.

00:52:39.000 It's creepy.

00:52:40.000 We had a moment, guys.

00:52:41.000 We had a moment.

00:52:42.000 And then I went right to Supercuts for $12.

00:52:45.000 And I go, I want my haircut.

00:52:48.000 And I look terrible.

00:52:48.000 They gave me a picture of Luke Rockhold.

00:52:50.000 My friend Tarek, who trains Luke, goes, Hey, Callan's here. 1.00

00:52:56.000 I think you'd suck Luke's dick if we asked him to. 1.00

00:52:58.000 You should say something. 1.00

00:53:00.000 You can take I think out of that sentence.

00:53:04.000 Alright, I'll do it just as a goof.

00:53:05.000 Don't tell anybody.

00:53:06.000 That's a goof! 0.99

00:53:07.000 What a shocking moment.

00:53:08.000 What a shocking turn of event.

00:53:10.000 That one wheel kick changes the entire fight.

00:53:12.000 Did you see Chris crying?

00:53:14.000 Yeah.

00:53:14.000 It was also the pressure that Rockhold put on him, I think surprised Weidman.

00:53:20.000 Like when Rockhold mounted him, you're for sure not going to eat those on camera.

00:53:23.000 I would never eat those. 0.98

00:53:24.000 When Rockhold mounted him and he couldn't get him off of him, I think he was fucking shocked. 0.97

00:53:29.000 Especially when, you know, Wyman has really good jiu-jitsu. 0.92

00:53:31.000 And when he felt Rockhold's pressure, I think he was just...

00:53:34.000 It's the first time he's ever been taken down.

00:53:36.000 First time his back's been on the mat.

00:53:37.000 He's like, no, he's stronger.

00:53:39.000 He's stronger than he is.

00:53:40.000 It's the technique, too, though.

00:53:42.000 His technique was superior.

00:53:44.000 It was amazing to see.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, it was amazing to see. 1.00

00:53:46.000 He's a fucking beast. 1.00

00:53:47.000 And I think you can't... 0.99

00:53:50.000 Underestimate the benefit of training with Daniel Cormier and Cain Velasquez, the heavyweight, former heavyweight champion, and the light heavyweight champion.

00:53:58.000 There's a chance they could have the heavyweight champ, light heavyweight champ, and now middleweight champ all training together.

00:54:05.000 All came up together.

00:54:06.000 How crazy is that?

00:54:07.000 It is a possibility, but the light heavyweight, you've got to put a little asterisk.

00:54:11.000 Well, I'm just saying right now, son.

00:54:13.000 I'm just saying right now.

00:54:14.000 Yeah, pull a little asterisk.

00:54:15.000 Oh, big asterisk.

00:54:16.000 A little? 1.00

00:54:16.000 No, that motherfucker's big. 1.00

00:54:17.000 Especially now. 1.00

00:54:19.000 Now that John's got lift in 600 pounds.

00:54:20.000 I follow him on Instagram and I watch him.

00:54:23.000 I get nervous.

00:54:23.000 I throw my phone away.

00:54:25.000 I run out the door.

00:54:26.000 I don't want to be around it.

00:54:27.000 It's crazy. 1.00

00:54:28.000 John's a monster. 0.99

00:54:28.000 Right now, he's also a monster that's overcoming a really bad moment in his life and he's on the straight and narrow now. 0.99

00:54:34.000 He's on the path.

00:54:35.000 He got scared.

00:54:36.000 Well, he should be.

00:54:37.000 And those are good things to happen to you.

00:54:39.000 You know, sometimes, you know, I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

00:54:42.000 I love a comeback story. 0.96

00:54:44.000 I fucking, I like a guy who does the right thing and gets it all together. 0.98

00:54:49.000 And I love that. 0.99

00:54:50.000 But I also like a guy who fucks his life up and then pulls it all together. 0.86

00:54:54.000 I think you need that darkness, though.

00:54:56.000 Like, I don't think John should be someone who he's not.

00:54:59.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:55:00.000 Like, doing all this stuff is great.

00:55:01.000 But be the heel, man. 1.00

00:55:03.000 Be the fucking Joker of the UFC. I don't think he wants to. 1.00

00:55:06.000 And fucking destroy people. 0.99

00:55:06.000 I think he wants to be Jon Jones. 0.99

00:55:08.000 I agree.

00:55:08.000 I don't think Jon thinks of himself as a bad guy, and I don't think he is a bad guy.

00:55:11.000 I think he's a young guy who's trying to have fun, and he's made some mistakes.

00:55:15.000 That's what I think.

00:55:16.000 I don't think he's a bad person.

00:55:17.000 I don't think he's a bad person.

00:55:19.000 I think he's a far cry from Holly Holm.

00:55:22.000 Yes, you're right.

00:55:23.000 He's a far cry from Holly Holm.

00:55:28.000 I talked to her after the fight.

00:55:30.000 Nicest person of all time?

00:55:31.000 Yeah.

00:55:31.000 Oh, she might be, easily.

00:55:33.000 I talked to her after the fight this weekend, and we were hanging out with her and her husband.

00:55:37.000 I said, congratulations.

00:55:38.000 How's it feel?

00:55:39.000 She's like, it still feels weird.

00:55:40.000 It doesn't feel real.

00:55:42.000 I'm doing so many...

00:55:42.000 She goes, but I don't even want to think about it.

00:55:44.000 She goes, I just want to get back to training.

00:55:45.000 I don't want to get a big head.

00:55:48.000 Because she knows the traps.

00:55:49.000 And we were talking about the fight.

00:55:51.000 And she said, look, the reality is, what happened tonight to Jose Aldo could have happened to me.

00:55:57.000 It can happen to anybody.

00:55:58.000 She goes, you get caught with a punch and you get knocked out.

00:56:00.000 It's happened.

00:56:01.000 She's been in the sport too long.

00:56:02.000 I think to get a big head.

00:56:04.000 I think she realizes the traps, and she's been fighting for world champions before, so she doesn't want to fall in that same kind of rut that Ronda did.

00:56:11.000 Also, if you're going to give this fight to, let's say they do do it in July, whatever, the UFC 200, you give Holly six months to know exactly what Ronda brings to the table and train for it, come up with a better game plan than she had before. 0.99

00:56:25.000 And make sure that her conditioning is on point, make sure her body's healthy, rehabilitate any possible injuries she might have had.

00:56:31.000 She just has to make sure I'm sure she doesn't overtrain.

00:56:33.000 But you gotta remember, Rhonda's shooting movies. 0.62

00:56:35.000 Well, Holly can game plan. 1.00

00:56:36.000 But when has anybody ever overtrained at Jackson Winklejohn? 0.99

00:56:39.000 They're super smart about that kind of shit. 0.99

00:56:41.000 Jackson is really fucking smart about strategy. 1.00

00:56:44.000 He's really smart about preparation. 0.98

00:56:46.000 They've got some hardcore training ethics in that gym.

00:56:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:50.000 And, of course, you've got Winklejohn.

00:56:52.000 Winklejohn was a fantastic kickboxer.

00:56:55.000 And he's a really good coach.

00:56:57.000 And Jackson is a really good strategist.

00:57:00.000 And they've got excellent training partners.

00:57:02.000 And you've got all this motivation.

00:57:04.000 Think about their lineup.

00:57:05.000 You've got Greg Jackson, right? 1.00

00:57:06.000 He's like the fucking Yoda of MMA. He's been doing it forever. 0.99

00:57:10.000 He's a genius.

00:57:11.000 Game planner.

00:57:11.000 Then you've got Winkle John, who's a phenomenal coach, obviously.

00:57:14.000 And then you've got Izzy, who does the wrestling. 1.00

00:57:16.000 Who does Jon Jones.

00:57:17.000 Israel Martinez. 1.00

00:57:18.000 Izzy's a motherfucker. 1.00

00:57:20.000 He's an outstanding wrestling instructor. 1.00

00:57:22.000 He's good friends with my buddy Justin Milos, who's my trainer.

00:57:26.000 With all that experience, game planning for somebody, what I love about MMA now is that it really is about your team.

00:57:34.000 Just the brains behind you as well.

00:57:36.000 Just the strategy.

00:57:37.000 It has to be.

00:57:39.000 There are no lone wolves anymore.

00:57:41.000 I had a conversation with John before he moved to Albuquerque.

00:57:45.000 We had this conversation.

00:57:46.000 We may or may not have been smoking marijuana.

00:57:49.000 And we were in my hotel room in Montreal, and he was, you know, before he won the title, like way before, and I said, look, dude, I go, you're an incredibly talented guy, but you've got to get all the right people.

00:58:01.000 The only way to do it right, you can't do it on your own, because there's going to be a guy like you who's also incredibly talented, and that guy's going to have the best coaches.

00:58:08.000 It's a team effort.

00:58:08.000 And that guy's going to get the best training partners, and that guy's going to have the best strategist, and that guy's going to beat you.

00:58:13.000 And he might just beat you by an edge, but that edge you could have overcome if you had all that same coaching.

00:58:18.000 Mm-hmm.

00:58:18.000 And I think a guy like John, also, he grew up with two super-athlete brothers.

00:58:23.000 One older, one younger.

00:58:24.000 Freaks.

00:58:25.000 And I think he recognizes that he might be special compared to the average person. 0.98

00:58:30.000 Not to his brothers.

00:58:31.000 But not even in his own house.

00:58:33.000 Yeah.

00:58:33.000 His brother Arthur was doing MMA on the side.

00:58:37.000 Like, while he was playing for the NFL and beating John's ass. 0.99

00:58:40.000 God. 1.00

00:58:41.000 I mean, it's just a freak.

00:58:42.000 And he's the heavyweight champ in high school, his brother.

00:58:44.000 Yeah.

00:58:44.000 Just wrestling the fuck out of John.

00:58:45.000 And then the youngest brother is one of the best players in the NFL. What the fuck? 1.00

00:58:48.000 So I think John had a unique point of view as to what freak athleticism really is and about hard work and talent, you know? 0.99

00:58:57.000 I think he just was getting by in the UFC without having to go 100%.

00:59:03.000 As far as his training, his preparation, his 100 is going to be horrific.

00:59:07.000 If he really does get, he'll be the best of all time.

00:59:10.000 Didn't he say that the worst thing that happened to him was not training for Gustafson and beating him anyway?

00:59:15.000 Didn't he say that?

00:59:15.000 That's probably...

00:59:16.000 He said it was trouble.

00:59:18.000 He was just like, God, I can do this and still get away with it. 1.00

00:59:21.000 He said it added, and he was like, fuck it, I'll just keep doing it. 0.99

00:59:23.000 I'll just beat this guy who trained the best camp he's ever had in his life, and I did nothing and still beat him. 1.00

00:59:29.000 Such a freak. 0.99

00:59:30.000 I'll tell you what, how many fighters are going to incorporate a movement coach now after Conor doing all that shit? 0.99

00:59:35.000 They were making fun of him before. 0.94

00:59:37.000 I've been obsessed with Ido Portal for a long time.

00:59:40.000 Well, I'm obsessed with him, and I'm also obsessed with that guy that Carlos Condit uses.

00:59:44.000 He does that Move Nat stuff.

00:59:46.000 I was watching a video on him training today.

00:59:48.000 See if you can find it.

00:59:50.000 I'm pretty sure I retweeted it. 1.00

00:59:52.000 But he does all this crazy shit. 0.97

00:59:54.000 He's doing chin-ups with trees, like hanging off of trees, and he's doing balance beam stuff, and they're throwing sticks at him, and he's catching them while he's balancing on stuff. 0.99

01:00:05.000 He's even doing...

01:00:07.000 He's even doing training specifically for bow hunting.

01:00:10.000 He's got reps that he does for bow hunting while he's squatting and standing up while holding a bow posture to try to solidify his balance in precarious positions on hillsides.

01:00:21.000 I do that every morning.

01:00:22.000 Here's some of the weird stuff that Carlos is doing. 0.98

01:00:27.000 I mean, Carlos is a really fucking smart guy. 0.95

01:00:29.000 Really articulate. 0.98

01:00:31.000 Let's play this so we can hear it.

01:00:33.000 Bring it to the beginning.

01:00:36.000 He's also been doing the same training for about 20 years, so this must be nice.

01:00:40.000 Bring it to the beginning first, please.

01:00:42.000 There you go.

01:00:43.000 When somebody's watching a fight, there's the punches, the kicks, the takedowns, the grappling, but what people are less aware of is, you know, for a fighter to be in correct position to execute a strike effectively, they need to have mastery of their movement,

01:01:00.000 of their position, of their balance.

01:01:02.000 I think that's really what separates the elite fighters from somebody who's, you know, good enough.

01:01:10.000 Erwin and I have been training for about seven to eight months.

01:01:14.000 So people listening, he's walking on a log, balancing on a log.

01:01:18.000 I think one of the most challenging things about training in nature is the unpredictability.

01:01:25.000 It's talking about how you suffered an ACL, meniscus tear while fighting.

01:01:28.000 So doing MoveNAT definitely accelerated my recovery in that I was not only doing these movements and these different stretches in physical therapy, but also in my training sessions.

01:01:41.000 When Irwin and myself started training, he looked at some of my previous fights and he saw some things that my head coach Greg Jackson saw independently.

01:01:50.000 They saw the same exact thing, but what was great with working with Irwin and working in the movement program is he specifically had exercises and drills to make those changes.

01:02:01.000 Whereas, you know, some of my other coaches saw that it needed to be made, but weren't sure how to get there.

01:02:07.000 This was extremely challenging for me.

01:02:10.000 We're trying to relearn something that we may have lost.

01:02:14.000 As adults, having sat in chairs or having laid on a bench to do, you know, very linear stuff like bench press or squat or whatever, we've kind of lost that natural movement ability.

01:02:25.000 And to gain it, it takes a lot of focus.

01:02:29.000 I come home after I train with Erwin and I'm exhausted, but as we go on and I have made these adjustments and my body has adapted, it's less and less mentally taxing and, you know, more fun.

01:02:46.000 For my last fight, me and Irwin working specifically on positioning of my body, lower level stability in a lower stance, position of my feet, which helped me move forward and backward quicker, which I think ultimately really helped me with the victory.

01:03:01.000 I was able to move in and out of range effectively and land strikes and ultimately get the win.

01:03:06.000 Wow!

01:03:07.000 I think that it's not just for elite athletes, it's for anybody.

01:03:11.000 It's anybody who wants to get in shape, anybody who wants to try something different.

01:03:16.000 Maybe you're into lifting or you're into yoga or any different thing.

01:03:20.000 I hear all the time, I'm plateauing.

01:03:24.000 I'm strong but I can't move.

01:03:26.000 I'm flexible but I have no power.

01:03:28.000 Ultimately, we're trying to be the most functional, able-bodied athlete, person, human that we can be.

01:03:38.000 Boom. 1.00

01:03:39.000 Interesting shit, man. 1.00

01:03:40.000 It is. 1.00

01:03:40.000 I'm gonna stick with yoga. 1.00

01:03:42.000 I love that guy's ponytail, though.

01:03:43.000 I'm going out to the forest.

01:03:45.000 Ido Portal has a ponytail, too.

01:03:47.000 He does. 1.00

01:03:48.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:03:49.000 Please say Ido. 1.00

01:03:50.000 Don't ever say his name Ido again like that.

01:03:52.000 Is it Ido?

01:03:53.000 It is Ido.

01:03:53.000 But it's spelled I-D-O. Ido is the E's.

01:03:57.000 Well, you'll call him Ido.

01:03:58.000 Does he have a ponytail?

01:03:59.000 He certainly does.

01:04:00.000 He's a beautiful man.

01:04:01.000 I'm going to call him whatever I want.

01:04:02.000 Hey, don't put his name in your mouth.

01:04:05.000 He said Ido.

01:04:07.000 When you put my second boyfriend's name in your mouth, I got two boyfriends.

01:04:11.000 And by the way, Carlos Conner is the third boyfriend.

01:04:13.000 It's very hard for me to choose.

01:04:15.000 You line all those guys up in a jail cell, I have no idea who I got to choose.

01:04:18.000 But I would do their laundry.

01:04:19.000 I don't think you get to choose.

01:04:20.000 That's part of the program.

01:04:21.000 I don't, do I? I think that stuff is cool.

01:04:24.000 I think that stuff is cool.

01:04:26.000 You know, for certain guys, I think it's good.

01:04:28.000 Well, you don't know unless you're doing it.

01:04:29.000 I won't train with vegans.

01:04:31.000 Vito Portal.

01:04:32.000 Wow, he's shredded.

01:04:34.000 Portal, portal, portal.

01:04:35.000 That dude's shredded. 0.98

01:04:35.000 Oh, his hair's ridiculous. 0.98

01:04:37.000 Pull him up, excuse me, sir. 0.93

01:04:38.000 Pull him up, please, and show what he does.

01:04:40.000 Check this out.

01:04:40.000 What is he doing?

01:04:41.000 Is there any videos of him?

01:04:42.000 Oh, yeah, there's a great video. 1.00

01:04:43.000 Is it the same shit? 1.00

01:04:44.000 Is it the same shit? 1.00

01:04:44.000 No, no, hold on. 1.00

01:04:46.000 Hold, please.

01:04:46.000 Go full screen.

01:04:47.000 How did Connor get connected to him, I wonder?

01:04:51.000 He said that he was very interested in Connor.

01:04:53.000 He does some crazy stuff, man.

01:04:55.000 Well, you know what this is really similar to, as far as I'm looking at it?

01:04:59.000 Movement natural, the stuff that Hicks and Gracie was really into.

01:05:02.000 But watch what he does.

01:05:03.000 He does some crazy stuff.

01:05:04.000 Which is interesting, really, when you go back to it, because we thought of it as yoga, and it is yoga, but wow.

01:05:10.000 Jesus Christ.

01:05:11.000 He's bodied up, son.

01:05:11.000 This dude is doing handstand push-ups on the edge of a table.

01:05:17.000 Oh, he's not a good-looking guy.

01:05:19.000 Dropping his head below the table. 1.00

01:05:20.000 Oh my god, look at these flips and shit. 1.00

01:05:22.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:05:24.000 Oh my god, this guy's a super athlete. 1.00

01:05:27.000 Yes, he is.

01:05:27.000 Like, what is his...

01:05:28.000 Find another video, Jamie.

01:05:30.000 Oh, that's called White People Breakdancing. 0.95

01:05:32.000 Oh, the same video keeps going.

01:05:34.000 So what is his background?

01:05:36.000 Is he like a gymnast?

01:05:37.000 He's from Israel. 1.00

01:05:38.000 Look at this shit! 1.00

01:05:39.000 He was a capoeira guy. 1.00

01:05:40.000 Oh my god, this is insane.

01:05:42.000 He boxes, he does gymnastics, he talks about how important rings are.

01:05:47.000 You gotta relax, Brian.

01:05:48.000 I won't relax.

01:05:49.000 But this flip that he's doing, that flip is incredible.

01:05:52.000 There's this girl doing a one-handed... 0.99

01:05:54.000 Well, she's essentially doing, like, Cirque du Soleil type shit. 0.99

01:05:57.000 They are dancing, right? 0.99

01:05:58.000 They're just moving their body.

01:06:00.000 What he'll do is he'll make you, um, he'll give you something that, like, he'll make you catch a stick.

01:06:05.000 And then he gives you a toy, and as soon as you get good at it, he changes it up on you.

01:06:08.000 So he always has you guessing.

01:06:09.000 He always has you kind of dealing. 0.98

01:06:10.000 Well, he had Connor on the balance beams in Santa Monica the week before the fight, doing all sorts of crazy shit on the beach. 1.00

01:06:17.000 But look at this guy's fucking ability to move his body. 0.99

01:06:20.000 That's pretty shocking. 1.00

01:06:21.000 No, yeah, he is bodied up.

01:06:22.000 Tell you right now.

01:06:22.000 He calls it movement patterns.

01:06:24.000 Tell you right now.

01:06:24.000 Conor wins with or without doing these movements.

01:06:26.000 I hate to tell you.

01:06:27.000 I don't know about that, man.

01:06:28.000 I wonder if there's...

01:06:29.000 But listen, depending on who he's fighting, I think these benefits, these movements, and learning how to move your body like that will definitely benefit him.

01:06:36.000 And benefits are all that keeps you from winning or losing.

01:06:40.000 Watch this, watch this, watch this.

01:06:40.000 This is incredible, this guy.

01:06:42.000 This is nuts, man.

01:06:43.000 This kind of physical strength. 0.99

01:06:44.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.93

01:06:45.000 It's balanced. 1.00

01:06:46.000 That's some stupid core strength, too. 1.00

01:06:48.000 Man, maybe I'm just a hater. 1.00

01:06:49.000 I am not into this, man.

01:06:50.000 Hold on a second.

01:06:52.000 What do you mean you're not into it?

01:06:53.000 I'm just not into it.

01:06:54.000 Like, what does that mean?

01:06:56.000 I'm not digging it.

01:06:56.000 That's not impressive?

01:06:57.000 It's cool, man.

01:06:58.000 I've seen people in yoga do it all the time.

01:06:59.000 Listen, you've never seen a guy built like him. 0.99

01:07:01.000 You've never seen a guy built like him that does that shit with that kind of body mass. 1.00

01:07:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:07:05.000 I've never seen that in a million years. 1.00

01:07:07.000 I've never seen a guy be able to hold those positions like that.

01:07:10.000 He's a master mover.

01:07:12.000 I mean, that's like a very small percentage of the human population is capable of moving their body like this.

01:07:19.000 I don't get it.

01:07:19.000 Like, look at this.

01:07:20.000 Look at what he's doing.

01:07:21.000 You guys love it.

01:07:21.000 I know.

01:07:21.000 I'm sure that's great.

01:07:22.000 That looks very hard.

01:07:23.000 But why do you say you don't get it?

01:07:25.000 I'm saying I don't get the obsession with it.

01:07:28.000 Like how fascinated you guys are into it?

01:07:30.000 Look, he's doing one-handed chin-ups, dude.

01:07:32.000 You don't think that's incredible?

01:07:34.000 Yeah, that's insane.

01:07:35.000 So why are you hating?

01:07:36.000 I'm not hating.

01:07:37.000 He gets jealous when I'm attracted to another man.

01:07:39.000 No, I'm not hating.

01:07:40.000 You're jealous.

01:07:40.000 Are you jealous of this guy's body?

01:07:42.000 That's what it is.

01:07:43.000 That's what it is.

01:07:44.000 You have body dysmorphia.

01:07:45.000 Look at this.

01:07:45.000 That's fantastic.

01:07:46.000 That's good for your shoulder joint.

01:07:48.000 Yeah, I agree.

01:07:48.000 Jesus Christ.

01:07:49.000 He gets super mad when I have a new boyfriend, and that's the truth.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, but this isn't just a new boyfriend thing.

01:07:54.000 It's him looking at this guy's body, and he's freaking out.

01:07:58.000 No, I just don't think it's that impressive.

01:08:00.000 I go to yoga, and I've seen gymnastics.

01:08:03.000 This isn't anything new. 0.76

01:08:05.000 You're out of your mind.

01:08:05.000 You're out of your mind if you don't think that guy's impressive.

01:08:08.000 I was going to say.

01:08:08.000 And look at him meditating.

01:08:10.000 Look at his traps.

01:08:11.000 That's not impressive.

01:08:12.000 I can do that.

01:08:12.000 It's the only thing he's done so far that I can do.

01:08:14.000 Oh, hey, what's up, everybody?

01:08:15.000 The only thing that he's done so far... 0.99

01:08:17.000 See, this stuff is all the Hicks and Gracie type shit. 0.97

01:08:19.000 Hickson was really into this stuff. 0.99

01:08:21.000 Super into it.

01:08:22.000 As am I now.

01:08:23.000 That movement natural stuff was essentially like this flowing yoga style that Hickson was really into that a lot of other jiu-jitsu guys got into.

01:08:33.000 It's so interesting to see it all come full circle now with guys like Connor incorporating that, but this is even another level.

01:08:40.000 Yeah.

01:08:41.000 But you've seen those videos of Hickson doing those full splits, standing full splits on a balance beam?

01:08:47.000 20 years ago.

01:08:48.000 Yeah, holding his foot up in the air?

01:08:50.000 Yeah.

01:08:51.000 Why are you saying 20 years ago?

01:08:53.000 You're hating on Hickson now.

01:08:54.000 You have to qualify 20 years ago.

01:08:58.000 I'm saying Hickson was doing this.

01:09:00.000 This isn't new.

01:09:00.000 You can't let it enchant you.

01:09:02.000 Boss Rootin was doing shit like this. 1.00

01:09:04.000 Boss Rootin was doing crazy shit. 1.00

01:09:06.000 He never did that. 1.00

01:09:06.000 You can't be enchanted. 1.00

01:09:07.000 Well, he was in on chains and fucking with his hair done. 0.99

01:09:10.000 Look into my eyes. 0.99

01:09:11.000 Yeah, my bad.

01:09:12.000 Boss Rootin wasn't doing that.

01:09:14.000 What are you running from right now?

01:09:16.000 Nothing.

01:09:16.000 I just don't think you can give that guy that much credit for Conor's knockout.

01:09:19.000 Can I ask you a question?

01:09:20.000 Can I ask you an honest question?

01:09:20.000 We're not doing that.

01:09:21.000 We're saying the guy's impressive physically and that it helped Conor to train with that guy. 0.95

01:09:25.000 Obviously Conor's not stupid.

01:09:26.000 He's figured out how to become the world champion with one punch. 1.00

01:09:30.000 He's not a stupid guy. 0.97

01:09:32.000 He's a marketing genius. 1.00

01:09:34.000 And I think Conor at 55 is even more trouble.

01:09:36.000 He's not cutting weight.

01:09:38.000 I don't know about that because a big part of what gets him there is he cuts weight perfect. 1.00

01:09:43.000 Oh, he looks like shit. 0.99

01:09:44.000 He looks dogshit at 45, but whatever he does to rehydrate the next day, he looks amazing. 1.00

01:09:49.000 And he's done it with no IV this time. 0.98

01:09:52.000 Yeah, but think if he doesn't have to cut all that weight so he doesn't deplete his body.

01:09:55.000 He's faster than all these 55ers. 1.00

01:09:56.000 But he's dealing with bigger guys.

01:09:57.000 It's going to take him down like Chad did.

01:09:59.000 Then you've got a much bigger problem.

01:10:01.000 Much bigger problem.

01:10:02.000 Chad is a tiny guy in comparison to a lot of 55ers like Dos Anjos. 1.00

01:10:06.000 Dos Anjos gets on top of you.

01:10:07.000 That is a totally different world of physics and weight.

01:10:11.000 I agree, but you look at matchups like Donald Cerrone, phenomenal matchup.

01:10:16.000 Anthony Pettis, dope-ass matchup.

01:10:18.000 Those are great matchups.

01:10:19.000 There's certain matchups at 55. You're right, you're right, 100%.

01:10:22.000 Do you think if Dos Anjos wins, they'll fight?

01:10:26.000 Nope.

01:10:28.000 No.

01:10:28.000 It's only if Cowboy wins.

01:10:29.000 Really?

01:10:30.000 Well, if Cowboy wins, that's the money.

01:10:31.000 That's the money fight. 0.99

01:10:32.000 That's the mega fight.

01:10:33.000 Woo! 0.99

01:10:33.000 That is a mega, mega, mega fight. 0.99

01:10:36.000 Why do you guys say that not if Dos Anjos wins?

01:10:39.000 No, I'm asking.

01:10:40.000 I just don't think so.

01:10:42.000 Because I think, like Joe mentioned, that Dos Anjos can put in that Chad Mendes game plan.

01:10:48.000 Oh, I got you. 0.98

01:10:49.000 Well, also, Dos Anjos hits fucking hard, and he's got nasty jiu-jitsu. 0.99

01:10:54.000 World-class. 0.99

01:10:54.000 And he's got a fucking pressuring game. 0.99

01:10:57.000 But, you know, Conor might laugh at it. 0.99

01:11:00.000 Conor might say, you know, like, I got the solution to that.

01:11:03.000 Look, Jeremy Stevens knocked that dude dead.

01:11:05.000 Dead, dead, yeah.

01:11:06.000 Yeah, I mean, it's very possible that Conor might just see holes in his game that we're not seeing, and he might be able to figure it out.

01:11:12.000 I just don't think it's a big payday.

01:11:13.000 Like, Dos Anjos-McGregor's not a superstar fight.

01:11:16.000 It's really not.

01:11:17.000 But it is a superstar fight whenever Conor fights anybody.

01:11:20.000 And if he's got a big challenge in front of him fighting for the lightweight title, it'll be a gigantic paper-per-view event.

01:11:25.000 No, Conor's big no matter what.

01:11:26.000 Conor?

01:11:27.000 Cowboy?

01:11:27.000 That's the biggest.

01:11:28.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:11:29.000 If Cowboy can win next Saturday against Dos Anjos and become the lightweight champion in the world, that is the... 0.99

01:11:35.000 And I guarantee you they'll probably call Conor out, right?

01:11:38.000 Unless it was a crazy war and they want a rematch.

01:11:41.000 They don't like each other.

01:11:42.000 They don't like each other anyways.

01:11:43.000 But unless it's a crazy war, and you know, everybody says, like, you gotta do it again, and they both say we gotta do it again, the UFC says they have to do it again.

01:11:49.000 But again, like, this is like, when people upset at me about the Frankie Edgar thing, like, I don't get the call.

01:11:54.000 It's not my choice.

01:11:55.000 I'm not, like, my opinion is just an opinion.

01:11:57.000 Mm-hmm. 0.59

01:11:58.000 I just see a guy get knocked dead.

01:11:59.000 I see, okay, that guy can't fight for at least six months, at least, and really shouldn't be fighting probably for a year.

01:12:05.000 And it wasn't much of a fight.

01:12:07.000 I agreed right away.

01:12:08.000 I was like, yeah, Joe's right.

01:12:09.000 There's no way there's a rematch.

01:12:10.000 But then I thought about it.

01:12:11.000 I'm like, well, they gave all these other champs instant rematches.

01:12:13.000 But they didn't to Kane.

01:12:14.000 Kane got knocked dead, too, against Junior Dos Santos.

01:12:16.000 He had to fight Bigfoot.

01:12:17.000 People get saying Kane got an instant rematch.

01:12:19.000 No, he didn't.

01:12:20.000 He did not.

01:12:21.000 But there's been more instant rematches than not.

01:12:23.000 Right.

01:12:23.000 But he fought Bigfoot, Silva, and by the way, the Anderson Silva rematch?

01:12:28.000 Too fucking soon. 0.96

01:12:28.000 And I said it. 0.96

01:12:29.000 Oh, 100%.

01:12:30.000 He got lucky that he broke his leg.

01:12:32.000 How about that?

01:12:32.000 Not obviously, not really.

01:12:34.000 But he was getting beaten the fuck up.

01:12:36.000 He got hurt real bad in the clinch. 0.84

01:12:38.000 Weidman caught him with a punch in the clinch.

01:12:40.000 His legs went rubber.

01:12:41.000 He went to the ground. 0.93

01:12:42.000 He held on as much as he could and Weidman beat the fuck out of him for that first round. 1.00

01:12:47.000 And then Anderson threw that kick and broke his leg and it was almost fortunate that he went out like that because Weidman was going to beat his ass. 0.99

01:12:55.000 Anderson was not able to take a punch anymore the same way he used to. 0.99

01:12:58.000 Anderson used to eat punches.

01:13:00.000 Watch the fight. 1.00

01:13:01.000 You want to watch a crazy fucking fight? 1.00

01:13:02.000 Watch this fight with Jorge Rivera where he lets Rivera punch him in the face. 1.00

01:13:06.000 Really? 0.99

01:13:07.000 Let's him punch him in the face. 0.99

01:13:08.000 Yeah, he used to let guys just punch him in the face. 0.99

01:13:09.000 What? 0.96

01:13:09.000 Stood in front of Rivera, let him punch him. 0.96

01:13:11.000 Pull it up.

01:13:12.000 Jorge Rivera versus Anderson Silva in Cage Wars in the UK. This is before Anderson came to the...

01:13:19.000 Dude, I was a gigantic Anderson Silva fan long before he ever won the title.

01:13:24.000 Will you watch my calling the fight against Chris Weidman? 0.97

01:13:28.000 I was a kid in a fucking candy store because he wasn't a new guy to me. 0.96

01:13:33.000 Oh, you're saying when he fought Chris Lieben. 0.99

01:13:34.000 Did I say Weidman?

01:13:35.000 I meant Lieben, sorry.

01:13:36.000 When he fought Chris Lieben, when he came to the UFC, I was a kid in a candy store because I was like, this guy is a different kind of striker.

01:13:45.000 This is a whole different animal you're dealing with.

01:13:47.000 And Lieben's going to come forward face first.

01:13:49.000 The perfect matchup.

01:13:50.000 Did he start as a Muay Thai guy?

01:13:52.000 Watch this. 0.99

01:13:52.000 So Jorge Rivera, who's on the left, who is a fucking hard puncher. 0.99

01:13:57.000 Good hands. 0.98

01:13:57.000 And Anderson's standing right in front of him. 0.98

01:13:59.000 And there's one point in the fight.

01:14:01.000 How long does this fight go, Jamie?

01:14:03.000 10 minutes.

01:14:03.000 Ten minutes.

01:14:04.000 There's one point in the fight before Anderson knocks him out where Anderson stands right in front of him and literally lets him punch him in the face.

01:14:11.000 And Mark Delgrante, who was with Jorge, was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:14:15.000 And he's like, what the fuck? 0.99

01:14:18.000 You should hear Mark talk about it. 0.99

01:14:20.000 It's hilarious when Mark talks about it.

01:14:22.000 I love that guy.

01:14:23.000 He's the best.

01:14:24.000 He's so funny.

01:14:24.000 By the way, Mark was also agreeing with me that Aldo looked different physically.

01:14:29.000 He looked smooth.

01:14:29.000 I think the entire world, except for South America, agreed with you, Joe.

01:14:33.000 Well, there's some people on the underground that disagree. 1.00

01:14:35.000 Oh, we call them idiots. 1.00

01:14:37.000 Just when you see a guy, it's hard to tell from a still photo as well. 1.00

01:14:41.000 Nah.

01:14:42.000 A lot of what you see is in movement.

01:14:44.000 You see, like, they don't look as full.

01:14:46.000 Not as explosive.

01:14:47.000 Even in the still photo it shows.

01:14:49.000 A little bit, but not much.

01:14:51.000 Like I said, it could have been attributable to cardio.

01:14:54.000 I mean, let's say there's no evidence at all that he ever did steroids, right?

01:14:58.000 So let's say he never did steroids.

01:14:59.000 Let's say he just did way more cardio for that fight and didn't do nearly as much strength training, and that's what it is.

01:15:06.000 There's a difference in the way it looks.

01:15:08.000 Eric Silva was the biggest contrast.

01:15:11.000 And Vitor, of course.

01:15:13.000 But Vitor is the biggest.

01:15:15.000 But Vitor, we knew to look for it.

01:15:17.000 We knew it was happening.

01:15:18.000 We knew about the testing.

01:15:19.000 We knew about everything.

01:15:20.000 With Eric Silva, you're like, huh?

01:15:22.000 Yeah.

01:15:23.000 He was bodied up.

01:15:24.000 He was so bodied up with that apple bottom and everything.

01:15:26.000 Dude, when he walked into the octagon, it was literally like a Scooby-Doo sound all across the globe.

01:15:34.000 Penny dropper.

01:15:36.000 Panty drop. 0.91

01:15:38.000 And then he gets off to you.

01:15:39.000 No, that's what I mean.

01:15:40.000 I mean, in the last fight.

01:15:41.000 Yeah, it was crazy.

01:15:42.000 In the last fight.

01:15:43.000 His last fight.

01:15:44.000 He looked like melted cheese.

01:15:47.000 It just didn't make any sense.

01:15:48.000 But again, it could have been that he changed his approach and decided he's gassing out in these fights.

01:15:53.000 Like against Matt Brown, he gassed out.

01:15:55.000 And he has all this muscle and all this power and he's always going for it.

01:15:59.000 And he is a young guy.

01:15:59.000 He's not even 30 years old.

01:16:01.000 It is possible that he just changed his entire approach.

01:16:05.000 No more strength and conditioning.

01:16:06.000 Only just training.

01:16:08.000 Only cardio from sparring and from, you know, repetition.

01:16:12.000 I mean, it's totally possible.

01:16:14.000 It's totally possible.

01:16:15.000 Alistair Overeem, when he got busted, it was in his protein shake.

01:16:18.000 Dude, look how beautiful Anderson's movement was.

01:16:20.000 Look how he checked that kick.

01:16:21.000 I mean, it's all, like, automatic.

01:16:23.000 This was when he was in his prime.

01:16:25.000 By the way, he didn't come to the UFC until I think he was, like, 35. Man, look.

01:16:29.000 He was going to retire and O'Gara talked him out of it.

01:16:32.000 How old was he when he came to the UFC? I thought he was 32. I thought he was 32. You might be right, though, Joe.

01:16:38.000 I know he's gonna retire, and Big Nog talked him out of it. 0.97

01:16:41.000 He's like, you have to fight.

01:16:42.000 Well, he had had some, you know, crazy tough fights.

01:16:45.000 He also had a falling out with Shoot the Box.

01:16:47.000 I'm surprised he's not retiring now.

01:16:49.000 Why do you think?

01:16:50.000 Well, he went to Muay Thai Dream Team. 0.99

01:16:52.000 They created a team, and he didn't have good training partners, and there was a lot of shit going on. 0.93

01:16:56.000 But he pulled it together right when he came to the UFC. Did he ever. 0.97

01:17:00.000 Well, he pulled it together in Cage Wars, really.

01:17:02.000 And then he came to the UFC after that.

01:17:04.000 Remember he was about to fight Roy Jones?

01:17:06.000 And then everyone was like, nah. 0.77

01:17:07.000 That would have been so ridiculous. 0.87

01:17:09.000 It would have been awesome. 0.95

01:17:09.000 He would have got lit up. 0.95

01:17:10.000 It would have been awesome.

01:17:11.000 It would have been a good wake-up call to a lot of MMA fighters to think they can box with a guy like Jones.

01:17:17.000 Speaking of Jones, she was getting knocked out in the fourth round. 1.00

01:17:19.000 Hey, let's stop doing that.

01:17:22.000 You're a lead commentator on HBO. Let's not do that.

01:17:25.000 Yeah, I think that's going to fuck with his commentary for sure. 0.97

01:17:28.000 100%. 0.98

01:17:28.000 He's not going to be able to talk that good after that knockout. 0.98

01:17:31.000 I mean, it'll be a while before he recovers from that.

01:17:34.000 He's had like five of those.

01:17:36.000 Unless he's getting paid crazy amounts of money, I don't get why he does it.

01:17:39.000 No one really watched it.

01:17:40.000 The only reason we watched is because he got highlight knockout, you know?

01:17:44.000 Meanwhile, Jorge Rivera did a lot better than Rich Franklin.

01:17:47.000 It's interesting.

01:17:48.000 He sure did.

01:17:49.000 Well, Jorge's a Muay Thai guy, so he figured out how to fight Anderson from the clinch.

01:17:53.000 Anderson, at this point in the fight, is sort of just chipping away at him.

01:17:57.000 But how much more time is in this fight?

01:17:59.000 Where are we at?

01:18:01.000 The moment before the fight stopped, the nice knee to the body.

01:18:05.000 See, this is Anderson, like, really in his prime.

01:18:07.000 Did you see Anderson in John Jones?

01:18:10.000 Yeah.

01:18:11.000 Shadowbox in New York?

01:18:11.000 Yeah.

01:18:12.000 Yeah, it was pretty cool.

01:18:13.000 Interesting, right?

01:18:14.000 Anderson against Luke Rockhold.

01:18:16.000 Does Luke Rockhold beat him up right now?

01:18:17.000 Oh God, it's horrible now.

01:18:19.000 Really?

01:18:19.000 What's wrong with you?

01:18:20.000 It's over now.

01:18:21.000 The champ, the new crown champ versus the old Anderson Silva?

01:18:25.000 No, Anderson, it's over.

01:18:26.000 Look at this, look at him.

01:18:27.000 Let me guess, Callan.

01:18:28.000 Yeah?

01:18:29.000 You're crunk for the Ken Shamrock, Hoist Gracie fight, too.

01:18:32.000 Listen, Anderson took him down. 1.00

01:18:34.000 Fuck you. 1.00

01:18:34.000 Unless you were on testosterone replacement, when you hit your late 30s like that, there's just no way. 1.00

01:18:39.000 You can't compete.

01:18:40.000 You're not competing with him. 0.97

01:18:41.000 Look, if you got Anderson on the Vitor Belfort diet, I think Anderson goes back in there like a demon, and who knows who he can beat until his, you know, 40th fucking birthday or whatever it would be when the wheels fall off.

01:18:55.000 But Anderson now, you're talking about a guy who was brutally KO'd by Chris Weidman, and then in the second fight had a seriously hard time staying conscious from a punch in the clinch. 0.80

01:19:06.000 I just don't think the body can only take so much, man.

01:19:10.000 And I think he took it all.

01:19:12.000 Vitor Anderson makes sense.

01:19:13.000 Here's where it gets.

01:19:14.000 Here's towards the end of the fight.

01:19:17.000 This is the second round where I'm pretty sure he stopped him in the second round. 0.98

01:19:20.000 But there's a point where it's just fucking... 0.96

01:19:23.000 Show me how much time is left here. 0.99

01:19:26.000 Yeah, scoot ahead a little bit and see if we can find it because it's fucking preposterous. 0.97

01:19:30.000 Anderson is standing in front of him. 0.95

01:19:31.000 Here it is, right here.

01:19:32.000 Watch this.

01:19:34.000 Anderson just stands in front of him and lets Jorge tee off on his face.

01:19:38.000 Look at this.

01:19:40.000 Boom.

01:19:41.000 Boom.

01:19:41.000 Look, standing right in front of him.

01:19:42.000 Damn, I'm just eating that. 1.00

01:19:42.000 Boom. 1.00

01:19:43.000 Boom. 1.00

01:19:43.000 Damn, son. 1.00

01:19:44.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:19:45.000 God, dog.

01:19:47.000 Just ate it.

01:19:48.000 Just stood in front of him and ate it.

01:19:50.000 Wow. 0.96

01:19:50.000 Now, contrast that, that series of punches that Jorge Rivera, who hits fucking hard, to Chris Weidman's one punch in the clinch. 0.96

01:19:59.000 Oh, night and day. 0.97

01:20:00.000 That dropped him.

01:20:01.000 Night and day, son.

01:20:02.000 Anderson just can't absorb shots like he used to.

01:20:04.000 He used to have a phenomenal chin.

01:20:05.000 Your body just shuts down.

01:20:07.000 Your brain says, uh-oh, here it comes.

01:20:08.000 Chuck Liddell, same thing.

01:20:09.000 Had a phenomenal chin.

01:20:11.000 I mean, there was times in Chuck's life where you just weren't going to hurt him.

01:20:15.000 Sorry.

01:20:16.000 Sorry.

01:20:16.000 I think Dan Henderson pretty much until he got kicked by Vito.

01:20:20.000 Same thing.

01:20:20.000 Yeah, he can eat everything.

01:20:22.000 Who do you guys have winning the Anderson Silva Vitor?

01:20:26.000 That's not going to happen.

01:20:27.000 Vitor won't fight him.

01:20:28.000 I talked to Lorenzo Ortiz.

01:20:30.000 Why won't he fight him?

01:20:31.000 Vitor doesn't want to fight him.

01:20:32.000 He wants a shot at the title.

01:20:34.000 And they're like, dude, you fought for the title and got smoked in the first round.

01:20:38.000 You can't beat Dan Henderson and get a new title shot.

01:20:40.000 The thing is, Luke wants to fight him because he wants to...

01:20:43.000 Fight Vitor?

01:20:43.000 Yeah.

01:20:44.000 He should.

01:20:45.000 In Brazil.

01:20:46.000 He goes, I want Vitor on a silver platter.

01:20:49.000 Is that what he said?

01:20:50.000 Yes.

01:20:51.000 That's gonna be ugly for Vitor, I feel.

01:20:53.000 Set it up.

01:20:53.000 You think?

01:20:54.000 You think?

01:20:55.000 You gotta do Weidman.

01:20:57.000 A Weidman rematch would be very interesting.

01:21:01.000 A Rockhold-Yoel Romero fight would be very interesting.

01:21:05.000 I think Yoel Romero is not doing anything in the fourth and fifth round.

01:21:10.000 Don't forget Jesus!

01:21:11.000 And remember, I was the guy.

01:21:12.000 Gay Jesus! 0.97

01:21:13.000 No, not Gay Jesus. 0.99

01:21:14.000 He's saying forget. 0.96

01:21:15.000 He said forget.

01:21:16.000 Don't forget. 0.98

01:21:17.000 Gay Jesus! 0.98

01:21:17.000 That drove me crazy when whoever interviewed him didn't clarify that. 0.98

01:21:23.000 They were like, oh, they didn't know either. 0.99

01:21:24.000 I fucking knew. 0.99

01:21:26.000 I was listening to it. 1.00

01:21:27.000 He's saying, forget, he's Cuban.

01:21:29.000 Don't forget, Jesus.

01:21:30.000 When I speak to him, you notice when I speak to him, I look at him right in the eye, I speak very clearly, and I try to clarify everything he says.

01:21:37.000 Like, when he fought Tim Kennedy, and there was that moment where he didn't get off the stool, I had a long...

01:21:43.000 Conversation with him.

01:21:44.000 I was talking to him nice and slowly.

01:21:46.000 I'm looking at him, trying to find out what he's saying.

01:21:48.000 I'm trying to get to it.

01:21:50.000 I've known a lot of Cuban people.

01:21:52.000 I know what they sound like when they have that way of saying T's.

01:21:56.000 It's a Y. The T is a Y. It's not for gay Jesus. 1.00

01:22:00.000 It's forget. 0.98

01:22:00.000 Can we get a PR team on that? 0.98

01:22:01.000 Can we get a PR team to help him out?

01:22:03.000 I would have been the PR team if I was interviewing him. 0.98

01:22:05.000 Kind of fucked him up. 0.96

01:22:06.000 So you're saying, don't forget Jesus. 0.96

01:22:08.000 Yes.

01:22:08.000 See, see, see!

01:22:09.000 Don't for gay Jesus! 1.00

01:22:11.000 That's how they say it. 1.00

01:22:12.000 For gay Jesus. 0.98

01:22:13.000 No, it sounds like he's saying no for gay Jesus. 0.98

01:22:17.000 He's not a tall guy, is he? 0.96

01:22:19.000 How tall is he?

01:22:19.000 He feels like he's like 5'8", 5'9".

01:22:21.000 No, no, he's probably... 0.95

01:22:23.000 There's no gay Jesus. 1.00

01:22:25.000 No. 0.99

01:22:26.000 Poor guy.

01:22:27.000 Yoel Romero had the flu for the last four days.

01:22:30.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:22:31.000 Malky.

01:22:32.000 Don't ever show that guy some tweets.

01:22:34.000 Don't ever get him up here. 0.98

01:22:35.000 That guy wanted to come on the podcast with Jon Jones and he's like, I'll say some crazy shit Jon won't say. 0.89

01:22:39.000 I'm like, what? 0.95

01:22:40.000 Who's Malky?

01:22:41.000 Why would we want you there?

01:22:42.000 Who's Malky?

01:22:43.000 Why would they want you to do that?

01:22:44.000 Jon's manager.

01:22:47.000 Great guy, though, by the way. 0.99

01:22:48.000 Just fucking around. 0.98

01:22:49.000 But the idea of like, what? 1.00

01:22:52.000 Get out of here, son.

01:22:53.000 But he's like, you're going to talk for John?

01:22:55.000 That's exactly what I don't want.

01:22:56.000 I want to know what's going on in his mind. 0.99

01:22:59.000 Don't fucking hate Jesus! 1.00

01:23:01.000 Poor guy. 1.00

01:23:02.000 He got tortured online.

01:23:05.000 People were mad at him.

01:23:06.000 Even reputable sports broadcasters were tweeting at how horrendous what he said was and terrible what he said was. 0.99

01:23:15.000 I was fucking yelling at my computer. 0.99

01:23:18.000 He said, forget! 1.00

01:23:19.000 Those are the same fucks that do the ranking, and they can't even get your shit straight. 1.00

01:23:23.000 No, no, I don't do the rankings. 1.00

01:23:24.000 Who does the rankings? 0.99

01:23:27.000 Who the fuck does the rankings? 0.99

01:23:31.000 Journalists do the rankings? 0.99

01:23:32.000 I'm pretty sure, right?

01:23:33.000 Some head journalists.

01:23:35.000 It'd make more sense.

01:23:40.000 Yeah, they asked Ryan Seacrest.

01:23:41.000 Exactly.

01:23:42.000 Who does the rankings? 0.92

01:23:43.000 How weird is that?

01:23:44.000 Like, what are the people?

01:23:45.000 Who are the people?

01:23:46.000 The rankings aren't that horrible. 1.00

01:23:48.000 I just think that when, you know, someone like Uriah Hall knocks out Gegard Mousasi and he's below him on the rankings, that's fucking stupid. 0.99

01:23:55.000 Well, you know the UFC brass is like, we can't do the rankings because it's some bullshit. 0.99

01:23:59.000 Because remember they were going to do pay dictate based off your ranking. 0.98

01:24:03.000 That was horrible. 0.98

01:24:04.000 Then they're like, ah, fuck, we can't do that because Billy's a huge fan of whoever. 0.99

01:24:08.000 He's lost seven in a row and they want to rank him number 10. Do you guys have any idea how much a veteran makes off the Reeboks? 0.98

01:24:16.000 Let's not even talk about it because I'll start throwing up on my keyboard.

01:24:19.000 Yeah, me too.

01:24:20.000 You know what?

01:24:22.000 Can I do a positive spin though?

01:24:24.000 I hate on Reeboks so much.

01:24:25.000 Can I do a positive one?

01:24:27.000 I dug the McGregor trunks, the green and gold trunks, and all those black and gold for the first time ever.

01:24:34.000 For the first time ever, I was like, those look good.

01:24:36.000 Well, you know, they're responding to criticism and doing a good job of responding to criticism.

01:24:41.000 I just think, you know, I think the whole, the real reality of this whole situation is that it could have all been handled better.

01:24:48.000 I think everybody would agree to that.

01:24:50.000 And I think the fighters are very disappointed at their lack of ability to be autonomous as far as like how much money they can make from sponsors.

01:24:57.000 I'm like you're the perfect example You know I and I've used you as an example and you know people said that you weren't telling the truth and You know now we know that that's not not correct.

01:25:06.000 I brought you my you brought me my fight your financials and I brought them to the fucking top Yes, and we had a nice conversation about it. 0.84

01:25:13.000 I think that it's a it's a It's an unfortunate reality that we're gonna have to live with now And I what I would like to see out of this is I mean the argument against it was like people are having condom depot on their trunks all that shit I'm like well, how about don't have condom Condom Depot.

01:25:27.000 How about you have, you make a very specific, like, listen, you can get all the sponsors you want, but you can't have anything that's going to be bad for the image of the UFC. This is what we think are bad.

01:25:36.000 I don't know why condoms would be bad.

01:25:37.000 Which is what they did.

01:25:38.000 By the way, I don't know why condoms would be bad.

01:25:40.000 Is it bad to not get AIDS? Well, I agree, but the UFC did that, Joe.

01:25:43.000 What if it was Band-Aid Depot?

01:25:45.000 Would that be okay?

01:25:46.000 Right, but the UFC did that.

01:25:48.000 Penicillin depot.

01:25:48.000 Is that okay?

01:25:49.000 What if it was penicillin depot?

01:25:51.000 You had to submit your sponsors ahead of time and they had to check them off.

01:25:53.000 So you weren't allowed alcohol, tobacco, anything competing with the UFC. But did anybody, did it really diminish the entertainment value for anybody when someone was walking in with dynamic fastener on their shirt?

01:26:05.000 Did he give a fuck at all? 1.00

01:26:06.000 I never give a fuck. 1.00

01:26:08.000 If Chris Weidman was walking to the Octagon and he had... 1.00

01:26:11.000 Muscle farm or fucking fill in the blank, you know? 0.90

01:26:14.000 Well, where are all those logos now? 0.99

01:26:16.000 They're on the mat.

01:26:17.000 That's what Buns say. 0.99

01:26:18.000 Some of them are.

01:26:19.000 The mat looks like a NASCAR. The fighters are in black and white unless you're a champ looking like assholes not getting paid. 0.99

01:26:25.000 That's the only issue I have with it. 0.77

01:26:26.000 Well, there's definitely something to be said about that because none of that money is going towards the fighters.

01:26:31.000 None. 0.97

01:26:32.000 Because the only thing that's changed besides the fighters looking plain as fuck in black and white is the mat looks like a fucking Toys R Us now. 0.91

01:26:39.000 Yeah, and I think there's a real option, a real possibility for fighters to get super involved in social media and put out a lot of videos and get people excited. 0.96

01:26:50.000 If you put out a lot of content, people respond.

01:26:54.000 There's a lot of people that I follow.

01:26:56.000 There's a lot of people that I follow.

01:26:57.000 You know Ross Training?

01:26:58.000 Ross Training guy on Instagram?

01:27:00.000 You know who he is?

01:27:00.000 Like some pretty intense personal trainer dude.

01:27:04.000 He's got all these great workout things that he does on Instagram.

01:27:06.000 I follow that guy all the time.

01:27:08.000 If he was a fighter and he had all these people following him all the time or a lot of other guys that do these things or girls who do these things too.

01:27:14.000 There's a lot of people.

01:27:15.000 Well, girls, they do it. 1.00

01:27:15.000 They won't look at their asses. 1.00

01:27:16.000 Man, I follow him, Joe. 1.00

01:27:18.000 I know you do.

01:27:18.000 I like how you do that.

01:27:26.000 But I think that what it gives an opportunity for fighters to adjust and the adjustment is to concentrate or have someone that works for you.

01:27:33.000 Concentrate on social media, put out a lot of content. 1.00

01:27:36.000 I know Miles Jury does a lot of shit. 1.00

01:27:38.000 That's a bummer though man. 1.00

01:27:38.000 It is a bummer. 1.00

01:27:39.000 They shouldn't have to do it.

01:27:40.000 It would be better if they didn't.

01:27:41.000 There's so many fighters.

01:27:42.000 That's why if I'm Conor McGregor, you ready for this? 0.95

01:27:44.000 If I'm Conor McGregor, I say, I'm not doing shit till you give me 20 million in a fight. 0.92

01:27:49.000 That's how much power I think that kid has right now. 0.94

01:27:51.000 He has the most power I've ever seen a UFC fighter.

01:27:53.000 He has a nation behind him.

01:27:55.000 He could sell out 80,000.

01:27:56.000 Okay. 0.96

01:27:57.000 Well, I'm going to show you what kind of power he has behind him, because I'm going to send these to Jamie, and we're going to watch what it was like at the MGM, because I have videos of Irish people going fucking bonkers at a level that you've never seen in your entire life. 0.99

01:28:09.000 We're talking about climbing on top of fucking casino tables, screaming, taking their shirts off. 0.98

01:28:14.000 There's thousands of them. 0.99

01:28:15.000 When he was there in the run.

01:28:16.000 No, when he won.

01:28:18.000 He's a bigger star than Lesnar now. 0.99

01:28:20.000 They stormed the fucking casino, and when they stormed the casino, nobody could do anything about it. 0.99

01:28:26.000 Nobody can do anything about this. 1.00

01:28:27.000 Security guards are all standing around.

01:28:29.000 I'm gonna show you some video.

01:28:29.000 We've never seen a star like this.

01:28:31.000 And for the first time, Conor's bigger than the UFC. He can go, I want this amount of money or I'm not doing shit for you. 0.98

01:28:37.000 I agree. 0.93

01:28:37.000 And he's just backed up everything he said. 0.93

01:28:40.000 Yeah, I'm gonna send him these to Jamie right now.

01:28:43.000 You've never seen nothing like this.

01:28:45.000 You've never seen nothing like this.

01:28:47.000 Those Irish love him some fighting.

01:28:49.000 Jamie, you got your phone on?

01:28:51.000 His tiger tattoo bugs me out a little bit.

01:28:53.000 I'm not gonna lie to you.

01:28:53.000 What's up, Jamie?

01:28:56.000 Airdrop's not showing up.

01:28:57.000 Airdrop is really wonky, man.

01:28:59.000 I need to get it on my computer here.

01:29:01.000 You need to get what on your computer?

01:29:02.000 Airdrop?

01:29:03.000 Don't you have a phone?

01:29:04.000 I need to turn it on so I can show them.

01:29:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:06.000 Should I email it to you?

01:29:07.000 Is that the better move?

01:29:08.000 That'd be fascinating.

01:29:08.000 Okay, let me email it to you.

01:29:11.000 You wouldn't believe it.

01:29:13.000 You're going to look at this and you're going to go, what?

01:29:16.000 God, the mob.

01:29:19.000 Two attachments maximum.

01:29:21.000 All right, I'm just telling the news.

01:29:22.000 Guess where I wouldn't be?

01:29:23.000 At that casino.

01:29:26.000 Crowns make me nervous.

01:29:26.000 You had to get out of there right away.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, you had to get out of there right away.

01:29:31.000 I don't like mobs. 0.97

01:29:32.000 It was so ridiculous. 0.96

01:29:33.000 I'm getting nervous. 0.63

01:29:34.000 Here, I'm going to send you a couple other ones, Jamie. 1.00

01:29:36.000 It's just so stupid. 1.00

01:29:37.000 It was so crazy. 1.00

01:29:39.000 Have you ever seen anything like that, Joe?

01:29:41.000 No.

01:29:42.000 No.

01:29:42.000 I'm going to pee out of my huge deal.

01:29:43.000 I'll be right back.

01:29:44.000 Total new level of chaos.

01:29:48.000 And really, it was amazing, man.

01:29:50.000 I tweeted right when he knocked him out.

01:29:52.000 I said, well, ladies and gentlemen, there's your biggest star in UFC history.

01:29:55.000 How about arguably one of the biggest stars in the history of all combat sports?

01:30:02.000 Because there's never been anybody that has won a fight that has had casinos overrun with a...

01:30:08.000 Literally the security guard, watch these videos.

01:30:10.000 You're gonna freak out. 0.99

01:30:11.000 The security guards can't do shit. 0.97

01:30:12.000 Dudes are jumping up on tables. 0.99

01:30:14.000 They're taking their shirts off.

01:30:16.000 They're singing all together. 1.00

01:30:17.000 I mean, not just one or two, thousands and thousands of these fucking guys. 0.99

01:30:22.000 Did he come to you? 0.99

01:30:23.000 Just now.

01:30:24.000 He's a special dude, man.

01:30:26.000 And the thing why I'm just drawn to Connor is because he's a good person.

01:30:32.000 Like, you see, as soon as he beat Aldo, Yeah.

01:30:34.000 Hugged him, got on the mic.

01:30:36.000 He's a great champion.

01:30:37.000 There's a picture of them hugging in the back.

01:30:39.000 Yeah, man.

01:30:40.000 I saw it.

01:30:41.000 Yeah, it's very cool, man.

01:30:42.000 He's just a good person.

01:30:44.000 That'll all change again if they schedule a rematch.

01:30:46.000 Yeah.

01:30:47.000 He'll crank it right back up.

01:30:48.000 Did you see the picture that he put on Twitter?

01:30:50.000 Yes.

01:30:50.000 That's so rude.

01:30:52.000 There's a picture of him.

01:30:54.000 Wait till Brian come back.

01:30:56.000 How about we don't do it while Brian's gone.

01:31:00.000 So Brian doesn't declare that his next boyfriend.

01:31:02.000 So he doesn't jack up.

01:31:03.000 But there's a photo of Connor.

01:31:05.000 Connor's looking down.

01:31:07.000 And the camera's looking up at him and says, wake up, Jose.

01:31:10.000 It's all over.

01:31:12.000 God dang.

01:31:13.000 He can do what he wants though.

01:31:15.000 Cold-blooded.

01:31:17.000 But it's a marketing thing, you know what I'm saying?

01:31:19.000 Of course.

01:31:19.000 It's brilliant.

01:31:20.000 Of course, but it's also real.

01:31:22.000 It's a marketing thing, but it's real.

01:31:24.000 It's on his Twitter.

01:31:25.000 It's cold-blooded.

01:31:27.000 It's as cold-blooded.

01:31:29.000 That's cryotherapy-blooded. 1.00

01:31:32.000 It's so fucked up. 1.00

01:31:34.000 It's like fucking Pluto cold. 1.00

01:31:36.000 But that picture resurfaced because he posted that weeks ago. 0.99

01:31:39.000 Oh, did he?

01:31:40.000 Yeah, and then they just reposted it.

01:31:41.000 Well, he reposted it.

01:31:43.000 It's brilliant.

01:31:43.000 It's all over.

01:31:45.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:31:46.000 Have you seen that photo? 1.00

01:31:47.000 Did you see the video of him calling it?

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

01:31:48.000 Did you see that he tweeted that came out today?

01:31:50.000 And he's on the bike in Venice going da-da-da-da-da.

01:31:53.000 Have you seen that?

01:31:54.000 No.

01:31:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:31:57.000 Yeah.

01:31:58.000 Yeah, it's kind of hilarious.

01:32:00.000 What are you looking for, Jamie?

01:32:02.000 Just look it up. 1.00

01:32:04.000 Google it, you fuck. 1.00

01:32:06.000 Yeah, him vs. 1.00

01:32:07.000 Frankie's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:32:08.000 Maybe it's on Instagram? 1.00

01:32:11.000 No way he took it down.

01:32:13.000 No way.

01:32:21.000 Did you look under media?

01:32:29.000 How long is that from ago?

01:32:31.000 How long ago?

01:32:33.000 Hmm.

01:32:34.000 There's no way he took it down.

01:32:35.000 Did he take it down? 0.99

01:32:37.000 Damn, he's using Square. 0.99

01:32:40.000 Was it an Instagram post? 0.99

01:32:45.000 Let's see.

01:32:47.000 Did he take it down?

01:32:51.000 Is that possible?

01:32:52.000 No, I just found it, Jamie.

01:32:53.000 It's right there.

01:32:55.000 That's it.

01:32:56.000 I googled it in three seconds.

01:32:57.000 How dare you?

01:32:58.000 How dare you, sir?

01:33:00.000 Pull it up.

01:33:01.000 Google it.

01:33:02.000 Okay, so this is... 0.99

01:33:04.000 Let's just play this while we're waiting for you to get your shit together. 1.00

01:33:09.000 Oh, damn. 1.00

01:33:11.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:33:12.000 That's the MGM. That's the front.

01:33:15.000 That's the front of the MGM. Look at security.

01:33:20.000 They can't do shit. 0.99

01:33:24.000 Now, show some of the other ones, because there's some other ones in the actual casino itself. 0.99

01:33:28.000 That's in the lobby of the casino.

01:33:32.000 Nuts. 1.00

01:33:32.000 It's fucking madness. 1.00

01:33:34.000 That's the same thing, the second series that I sent you. 1.00

01:33:38.000 It is madness, man.

01:33:40.000 Just absolutely madness.

01:33:41.000 We haven't seen anything like this.

01:33:42.000 With this following, that Irish, I mean, they just love fighting. 1.00

01:33:46.000 It's in their blood. 0.99

01:33:47.000 And then you have this, fuck it, the Muhammad Ali of Ireland now. 1.00

01:33:51.000 And then some, right? 1.00

01:33:53.000 Ireland was always a battle with itself.

01:33:57.000 Ireland, because of the topography of Ireland, it would break up into what they called Tuaths, like clans, villages.

01:34:03.000 And they would always fight with each other. 0.99

01:34:04.000 Listen, I don't want to hear a fucking history lesson, son. 0.99

01:34:07.000 Here's the image. 0.99

01:34:08.000 See if you can find it, okay?

01:34:12.000 Well, Ireland's never had a star like this.

01:34:15.000 It says independent.co.uk.

01:34:16.000 You can find it there.

01:34:18.000 It's the whole thing.

01:34:18.000 Wake up, Jose.

01:34:19.000 It's all over.

01:34:20.000 They've never had a star like this.

01:34:21.000 Jose.

01:34:22.000 They've always wanted it.

01:34:23.000 Even guys who, you know, left on their shield, would get knocked out, but came back, they loved them.

01:34:27.000 Like, they were stars. 0.99

01:34:28.000 Now you have a legit fucking superstar. 1.00

01:34:31.000 A murderer. 1.00

01:34:32.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 A guy who's murking people.

01:34:34.000 I mean, to go through all that, the crazy UFC promo where they're meeting in the middle of the fucking strip and the fans behind them and the million dollar fucking production value of the commercial, the giant world tour, and then Aldo pulls out of the first fight, 0.99

01:34:50.000 shows up for the second fight, and one fucking punch deads him. 0.99

01:34:55.000 I mean, that is... 1.00

01:34:56.000 You can't write that shit. 1.00

01:34:57.000 You can't write that shit. 1.00

01:34:58.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:34:58.000 That is a movie and a half. 1.00

01:35:00.000 That is the greatest superstar that country has ever known in all combat sports.

01:35:04.000 This is...

01:35:05.000 Well, that's just the image.

01:35:06.000 If you go to the actual website...

01:35:08.000 It's right there, Jamie.

01:35:10.000 Come on, man.

01:35:11.000 I just showed you how to get it.

01:35:12.000 I googled it while I'm talking.

01:35:15.000 It's ain't hard to do.

01:35:16.000 You're not mad at that picture, Brian.

01:35:17.000 No.

01:35:18.000 No, he loves it.

01:35:20.000 But underneath it, it says...

01:35:21.000 It says right there, underneath it, By the way, Eve Edwards called me and left me a message.

01:35:26.000 He goes, hey, dude, I heard something weird.

01:35:29.000 Did you come out of the closet? 0.96

01:35:30.000 Are you gay? 0.99

01:35:31.000 And then I got another call from Kieran, same thing, going, hey, dude, I heard you were gay. 0.99

01:35:34.000 I was like, where are you hearing that I came out of the closet? 1.00

01:35:37.000 How about you just got done for 20 minutes slobbering over Luke Rockhold's cock? 1.00

01:35:41.000 Maybe it's me. 1.00

01:35:42.000 Maybe people are...

01:35:42.000 You and Ido Portal.

01:35:44.000 You think people are...

01:35:45.000 First of all, Ido Portal.

01:35:46.000 Don't make me say it again.

01:35:47.000 You think people are reading it?

01:35:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:35:49.000 You think...

01:35:49.000 There it is.

01:35:50.000 Wake up, Jose.

01:35:51.000 It's all over.

01:35:52.000 Oh, God.

01:35:53.000 Go back so you can see it all the way.

01:35:55.000 Look at this.

01:35:55.000 Oh, no.

01:35:56.000 That's mean. 1.00

01:35:57.000 Look at that fucking photo. 1.00

01:35:59.000 December 1st. 1.00

01:36:00.000 That is just ridiculous. 0.98

01:36:02.000 Wow. 0.97

01:36:03.000 So that's an old photo that he reposted.

01:36:06.000 Yes.

01:36:06.000 Wow.

01:36:07.000 Because it came true.

01:36:09.000 Wow.

01:36:09.000 Interesting.

01:36:10.000 Wow.

01:36:11.000 That tattooed tiger is just too real to be cool.

01:36:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:36:14.000 It looks like 3D. Yeah, it's not a good placement.

01:36:17.000 It's just, especially when you get abs like that, man.

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 Show the abs off. 0.99

01:36:20.000 I guess he doesn't give a fuck what he looks like, though. 0.99

01:36:23.000 You know what? 0.99

01:36:23.000 As far as that goes. 0.99

01:36:24.000 He doesn't have to.

01:36:25.000 Do whatever he wants. 0.99

01:36:26.000 He's knocking bitches out, making money, telling the UFC what the fuck to do. 1.00

01:36:30.000 What is he going to do when he retires? 0.99

01:36:32.000 I mean, the amount of juice that's going... 0.99

01:36:35.000 The amount of juice and adrenaline and excitement that's going through his veins right now, just the fucking electricity right now. 0.96

01:36:44.000 He'll be a promoter. 0.96

01:36:45.000 He'll be a promoter. 1.00

01:36:46.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:36:48.000 How do you ever match that? 1.00

01:36:51.000 It's all downhill from here.

01:36:53.000 God!

01:36:53.000 It's all downhill.

01:36:55.000 Well, he might go Leonard Skinner style and die in a small plane crash.

01:36:59.000 He might.

01:36:59.000 I could see that.

01:37:00.000 I just don't know.

01:37:01.000 A guy like this is like, the level of fame.

01:37:05.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:37:05.000 Some guy got on top of the lion in the fucking MGM. God, look at that. 1.00

01:37:08.000 Security.

01:37:09.000 Uh-oh.

01:37:11.000 Get off the line, sir.

01:37:12.000 That's where we drive the line. 1.00

01:37:14.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:37:15.000 Did you see them in the streets beforehand? 0.99

01:37:17.000 Did you hear about the Irish guys were on their way to Vegas and they got kicked off the flight for fighting?

01:37:23.000 Yeah.

01:37:24.000 What?

01:37:25.000 Yeah, they didn't even make it to the fight.

01:37:26.000 Conor McGregor fans.

01:37:27.000 My buddy went to a soccer game in Ireland.

01:37:30.000 They didn't get to the stadium.

01:37:31.000 There were so many fights.

01:37:32.000 It was nuts.

01:37:33.000 That's what they do, huh? 1.00

01:37:34.000 Yeah, they're fucking animals now. 1.00

01:37:35.000 Conor McGregor could be like a big-ass movie star or something. 1.00

01:37:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:38.000 He says he's gotten offers, but he's not interested.

01:37:41.000 He goes, I don't have time for that.

01:37:42.000 Well, you know, what he's doing is smart, and what Ronda did was not smart in that regard, that she got distracted and spread herself thin, took all that short money, you know, it's a lot of money, but took it all, whereas Conor's like, no thanks.

01:37:56.000 I don't think it made a difference.

01:37:58.000 I think Holly Holm is a different fighter. 0.99

01:38:00.000 I disagree.

01:38:01.000 I think she made a different fighter.

01:38:02.000 Well, it certainly made a difference, Brian.

01:38:03.000 When you distract yourself, you are distracted.

01:38:06.000 That makes a difference.

01:38:07.000 I don't think that's Ronda's fault.

01:38:08.000 This is Brian standing up for distractions.

01:38:12.000 No.

01:38:13.000 Holly Holm is a much higher level striker and would have been regardless.

01:38:17.000 I just don't think you can compete with somebody like that who's that far advanced as a striker.

01:38:22.000 Well, certainly not striking.

01:38:23.000 And she's stronger than Rhonda. 0.87

01:38:25.000 That's what it looked like to me. 1.00

01:38:26.000 She's strong as fuck. 1.00

01:38:27.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:38:27.000 Well, you know, she's definitely leaner, you know, and looks more muscular and bigger. 1.00

01:38:31.000 And she's fought as high as 152 pounds.

01:38:34.000 And Rhonda, correct me if I'm wrong, is not a big double leg, single leg shooter. 1.00

01:38:39.000 She's a judo person. 1.00

01:38:40.000 She's got to get her hips close to you. 1.00

01:38:41.000 So when she has people who in her camp, like this guy Izzy or whoever it is, who can neutralize that judo, push her hips away, drop level when she gets close.

01:38:50.000 No dropping levels, man.

01:38:52.000 Here's the big thing.

01:38:53.000 They just avoided that left arm.

01:38:55.000 Rhonda always ties up with that left arm. 1.00

01:38:57.000 I mean, she does the same approach in almost all of her fights. 1.00

01:39:00.000 And it works on this amateur girl. 1.00

01:39:02.000 That's a good way of putting it.

01:39:04.000 It's not to say that, like, she doesn't have other approaches, but that is the approach that she's most comfortable with and she goes to more often.

01:39:11.000 And when it wasn't working, you know... 1.00

01:39:14.000 You fucked. 1.00

01:39:14.000 You had that camp, game planning... 1.00

01:39:18.000 And they've seen a lot.

01:39:20.000 And I feel like they've game-planned for very, very good fighters who are men, who are a lot more complex.

01:39:25.000 And Ronda, for those guys, was probably much easier to game-plan. 0.95

01:39:29.000 And then they had Holly Holm, who's been striking with Ronald Johnson since she was 15. What you just said is really sexist.

01:39:32.000 I'm not talking to you anymore.

01:39:33.000 Sexist for men. 0.98

01:39:34.000 Hey, man!

01:39:35.000 Come on, man!

01:39:36.000 You know what I mean.

01:39:37.000 You know, men.

01:39:38.000 Guys like me.

01:39:40.000 Hey! 0.99

01:39:41.000 Hey! 0.99

01:39:41.000 You don't know that! 0.99

01:39:42.000 Well, I just heard you came out of the closet.

01:39:44.000 That's what I heard from Eve!

01:39:45.000 See, Rhonda doing movies and those distractions, that's on her team. 1.00

01:39:49.000 That's not on Rhonda.

01:39:50.000 That's people going, you should do this.

01:39:51.000 No, you're fine.

01:39:52.000 You're so much better. 0.99

01:39:53.000 We know that she's got some shit advice coming her way. 0.99

01:39:56.000 But what is... 0.99

01:39:58.000 A lot of people.

01:39:59.000 Yes.

01:40:00.000 What is her camp like?

01:40:01.000 You've been close to her while she's training.

01:40:03.000 What is her camp like?

01:40:05.000 You know, I'm not going to go into crazy detail.

01:40:07.000 All I know is she works harder than anyone.

01:40:09.000 So if she gets with the right people, she's going to be a lot better.

01:40:12.000 If she gets with the right team that says, maybe don't do this movie right now. 0.95

01:40:16.000 Maybe let's save this movie after you beat Holly. 1.00

01:40:18.000 Maybe let's do this then.

01:40:19.000 Isn't that a problem now, too, because if she's prepping for the rematch, isn't she about to go do that Roadhouse movie? 1.00

01:40:25.000 Roadhouse, yeah.

01:40:26.000 And isn't a problem that Roadhouse movie like movies are hard to sell when you're a badass when the world knows in your last fight you got flatlined I I would suggest it wouldn't be surprising to me the way Hollywood Hollywood works There where they go a lot of this movie was built on you being the baddest girl on the planet and undefeated Don't be surprised if sometimes those kinds of movies fall through they are they downgrade or maybe they just don't happen I wonder what kind of contract is involved,

01:40:53.000 because she's got big-time movie agents. 1.00

01:40:55.000 I wonder if there's built-in protection against that shit. 1.00

01:40:58.000 I would assume there is. 1.00

01:40:59.000 If I'm Dana White, I go, look at me. 0.99

01:41:01.000 You're not doing any fucking movies. 0.99

01:41:03.000 Your contract's with us. 0.99

01:41:05.000 We're not giving permission to do any of this.

01:41:07.000 So anyone who says, yes, you can make a movie and still beat Holly, I fire right now. 1.00

01:41:12.000 Anyone who goes, you can do this and still be world champion, is full of shit. 1.00

01:41:16.000 It's just not true. 0.99

01:41:17.000 What do you think about her fighting Holly in July?

01:41:25.000 I don't know, man. 0.99

01:41:27.000 What the fuck is she going to do? 0.99

01:41:28.000 If she's filming Roadhouse while Holly's focused, like you just talked to Holly the other day, right? 0.99

01:41:33.000 What does she want to do? 0.87

01:41:34.000 Train.

01:41:34.000 She wants to go right back to the gym after the fight.

01:41:36.000 Yes. 1.00

01:41:37.000 She might have gone to her fucking hotel room and hit pads. 1.00

01:41:40.000 And Ronda can't eat solid foods. 1.00

01:41:42.000 And then she's gonna make a movie and then jump into camp in the same camp that has been telling her to do all this stuff.

01:41:48.000 Yeah.

01:41:48.000 And the same...

01:41:49.000 You know, it's tough, man.

01:41:51.000 God bless her. 1.00

01:41:53.000 Hopefully shit works out, but... 1.00

01:41:55.000 It's a motherfucker, man. 1.00

01:41:56.000 It is a motherfucker, right? 1.00

01:41:58.000 If you wanted to get ready for a fight like that, you would want to go through a battery of physical tests. 1.00

01:42:04.000 Like, as far as your brain goes, CAT scans, MRIs. 0.99

01:42:08.000 Like, that was a fucking wallop she took. 1.00

01:42:12.000 And when, you know, I've had people on, like, Dr. Rhonda Patrick and Dr. Mark Gordon who talk about the damage to the pituitary gland and what happens when you get KO'd like that and how... 0.99

01:42:23.000 How important rest is in recovery and how long it takes to recover from something like that.

01:42:28.000 And then we saw the Anderson fight that we were just talking about.

01:42:30.000 How Anderson used to take this tremendous punch.

01:42:32.000 Then he fought Wybin and, you know, wasn't the same guy anymore.

01:42:35.000 Like, to jump right back in like this.

01:42:37.000 Look at Mendez, too.

01:42:39.000 Mendez gets knocked out by Conor.

01:42:41.000 Gets right back in there.

01:42:42.000 We've never seen him get dropped so easily.

01:42:44.000 Not just drop.

01:42:45.000 Flatline with one punch.

01:42:46.000 Flatline, man.

01:42:46.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 I mean, he came back.

01:42:47.000 And Frankie's not a... 1.00

01:42:50.000 Frankie's a motherfucker, man. 0.99

01:42:51.000 He throws combos, and he's very active, and he's more of a barrage of punches than a combo puncher. 0.99

01:42:56.000 But Frankie's not a knockout artist by any means.

01:43:00.000 But there's also the factor of getting...

01:43:02.000 I would imagine any fighter who gets in the ring and realizes that they are just...

01:43:09.000 That's a riddle that's very hard to solve right now.

01:43:11.000 I would imagine for Ronda, as great as she is and as athletic as she is, You know, there's no doubt that Holly Holm looked like she was just far advanced in how to dispatch somebody with kicks, and she was disguising her kicks, punching and stuff like that. 1.00

01:43:25.000 I would imagine there's an emotional factor, which is, can I even do this?

01:43:29.000 Can I solve this riddle in six months?

01:43:31.000 That's not a lot of time to catch up to somebody who's that good.

01:43:34.000 Also, to let all the dust settle as far as, like, the devastation to your emotions, your confidence.

01:43:40.000 Yes.

01:43:41.000 Or, you know, Ronda's a very special kind of pit bull.

01:43:44.000 Is she chomping at the bit to get back in there? 1.00

01:43:47.000 I mean, is she like fired up and ready to go?

01:43:49.000 She's a special person.

01:43:50.000 And I don't think there's a middle ground. 1.00

01:43:52.000 Either I think she's gonna come back and just be a fucking demon, Or we're going to see a shell and she's going to get fucking kicked in the face again and we never see her again. 1.00

01:44:00.000 I don't want to see that. 1.00

01:44:01.000 I don't think there's a middle ground. 0.73

01:44:02.000 Even if she comes back in fucking phenomenal shape and gets fired up and motivated and does everything the right way and no distractions, Holly might still mark her. 1.00

01:44:10.000 I agree. 0.98

01:44:10.000 Still doesn't have the skills to stand there and move and have good footwork and all that. 0.98

01:44:15.000 If she can't take Holly down... 1.00

01:44:17.000 She's fucked. 1.00

01:44:17.000 And not only that, what if Holly's game plan is even different this time? 1.00

01:44:20.000 What if she Muay Thai's the fuck out of those legs? 1.00

01:44:22.000 Because let me tell you something about Holly Holm. 0.99

01:44:24.000 That girl's got legs like a thoroughbred. 1.00

01:44:26.000 You see her bouncing around the outside and doing those flips? 1.00

01:44:30.000 Who would you rather have a game plan for you?

01:44:33.000 Greg Jackson right now or the latter over in Glendale?

01:44:37.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:44:39.000 You got six months, son.

01:44:42.000 You got six months of the mad scientist Greg Jackson going, this is what we did this time, this is what we're going to do this time.

01:44:47.000 And Mike Winklejohn.

01:44:48.000 And Izzy.

01:44:49.000 And Izzy.

01:44:50.000 Yikes.

01:44:51.000 Oh, and now she has confidence.

01:44:53.000 Oh, and John Jones in her camp, and they train together.

01:44:55.000 I know what I'd do.

01:44:56.000 I'd fake an injury.

01:45:01.000 Misha wants to fight her.

01:45:02.000 Misha's gonna get eaten up by Holly Holm.

01:45:07.000 With all due respect, Misha is not gonna fight that way.

01:45:11.000 She's not gonna charge after her like that. 0.76

01:45:13.000 It's a different animal.

01:45:13.000 It's a good fight.

01:45:15.000 I don't know who wins that.

01:45:16.000 It's a good fight.

01:45:17.000 Misha's got a different style of takedowns.

01:45:20.000 She'll shoot for doubles. 0.97

01:45:21.000 If she gets the clinch, she'll vary her approach. 0.95

01:45:24.000 She's got Ricky Lundell working with her, who's also an excellent grappling coach.

01:45:29.000 She's got some good things going for her.

01:45:32.000 You know, what you're dealing with also is when you see a fighter get into the octagon, you don't know what kind of injuries they've had, you don't know what they're dealing with in training camp that they're trying to overcome.

01:45:42.000 Like, when Luke Rockhold said after the fight that he had staph infection, like, I talked to Bob Cook about it. 0.59

01:45:47.000 Bob Cook, right when they, I go, congratulations, he goes, he almost fucking pulled out of the fight.

01:45:51.000 I go, what? 0.95

01:45:52.000 He goes, yeah, he's just had really bad staph.

01:45:54.000 He's been on antibiotics for two weeks. 0.99

01:45:55.000 I go, are you fucking kidding me? 0.99

01:45:57.000 It's crazy. 0.99

01:45:57.000 So, you'd never know. 0.99

01:45:58.000 Now, when Holly fought Raquel Pennington, she did not look very good.

01:46:02.000 And that was one of the reasons why I didn't think that was a good fight to have right now.

01:46:06.000 She had a split decision victory over Raquel Pennington. 1.00

01:46:09.000 I mean, Raquel almost beat her. 0.69

01:46:11.000 She came within a hair of beating her. 0.97

01:46:12.000 Let me ask you this, Joe.

01:46:16.000 I want to say more well-rounded athletes.

01:46:18.000 Whenever we see a fighter who charges, like it's almost no skill just to rush forward. 0.98

01:46:22.000 They get fucked up by the better fighter. 0.98

01:46:24.000 See Aldo? 1.00

01:46:26.000 Fucked up. 0.98

01:46:26.000 Ronda? 0.98

01:46:27.000 Fucked up. 1.00

01:46:28.000 We see these people, they fight so emotionally, they come straight forward. 1.00

01:46:31.000 And then you see the more talented fighter like, what the fuck? 1.00

01:46:34.000 Bink! 1.00

01:46:34.000 Yeah, you can't do that. 1.00

01:46:35.000 I mean, Rhonda was way more successful than Aldo at it, and she... 0.99

01:46:39.000 She's fighting lesser competition, so it worked.

01:46:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:46:41.000 Well, Holly's a fucking high... 0.99

01:46:42.000 For women, Holly is very high level. 1.00

01:46:44.000 And it didn't work.

01:46:45.000 As high level as it were.

01:46:46.000 Not only did it work, but she ate a lot of shots before that one that took her out.

01:46:50.000 Yes.

01:46:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:46:51.000 You get these superior athletes who, it's like, you're gonna rush forward and do what? 1.00

01:46:54.000 I'm gonna fuck you up. 1.00

01:46:56.000 Rhonda does have a fucking phenomenal chin. 1.00

01:46:59.000 Hopefully still. 1.00

01:47:00.000 But you look at the shots that she took, that fucking elbow, that one elbow that clean, as she's coming after her, she blasts her in the jaw with an elbow. 1.00

01:47:07.000 It's really the first time we've ever seen her get hit. 0.99

01:47:09.000 By a really good striker.

01:47:11.000 And you know, it was one of the things that we were discussing before the fight of like, what do you gotta watch out for Holly?

01:47:17.000 When we're doing the pre-fight breakdown, I was like, she's so good at shielding her kicks with punches. 0.99

01:47:23.000 You don't see them coming.

01:47:24.000 She's hitting you at the end of these punches, and then the kick's already coming. 1.00

01:47:28.000 You know, when you watch her RFA fight, was it RFA she fought in?

01:47:31.000 You watch all her other MMA fights in smaller organizations, those kicks come out of nowhere, man.

01:47:36.000 You know, and she knows when to land them.

01:47:39.000 You know, she doesn't show them until she's ready to land them, and then ba-blam! 1.00

01:47:43.000 Did you see a parade in Albuquerque?

01:47:45.000 20,000 people.

01:47:46.000 No!

01:47:47.000 Really?

01:47:47.000 20,000 people came out to see her in Albuquerque.

01:47:51.000 She told me she's happy to be in Vegas because at least it's relaxed.

01:47:55.000 She can't go anywhere in Albuquerque.

01:47:57.000 She said she tries to go to a restaurant to have a meal.

01:48:01.000 There's a line of people at her table that want to take photos with her.

01:48:04.000 They won't let her put food in her mouth. 1.00

01:48:06.000 That's exhausting.

01:48:08.000 That's managing championship, managing the attention. 1.00

01:48:12.000 First of all, those people are fucking rude. 0.99

01:48:14.000 Don't mess with someone when they're eating. 1.00

01:48:16.000 That is weird.

01:48:17.000 That's my first time.

01:48:18.000 I can't believe I'm seeing you.

01:48:20.000 I don't care about your steak.

01:48:21.000 What about me?

01:48:22.000 Oh, you think you're too good for me?

01:48:24.000 Well, you deal with it.

01:48:26.000 You deal with that in a crazy way.

01:48:27.000 Oh, I don't deal with it like she deals with it.

01:48:29.000 Not like that.

01:48:30.000 70 people waiting in line. 1.00

01:48:31.000 You deal with some shit, though. 0.99

01:48:32.000 Even when we were at EBI, I was like, good lord, man. 0.99

01:48:35.000 Are we ever going to get in here?

01:48:36.000 It gets a little weird, but it doesn't get...

01:48:38.000 It's also different because I'm a man. 0.92

01:48:41.000 There's not a bunch of people looking to rape me. 0.96

01:48:43.000 Right. 1.00

01:48:44.000 You look like raping Holly Holmes. 1.00

01:48:45.000 She didn't kick you right in the dick. 1.00

01:48:47.000 Right in the dick. 1.00

01:48:47.000 Go ahead and try and rape her. 1.00

01:48:48.000 She'll pancake that dick of yours. 1.00

01:48:50.000 There's a couple girls you don't want to try and rape. 1.00

01:48:52.000 And scream. 1.00

01:48:52.000 Hey! 1.00

01:48:52.000 And do that. 1.00

01:48:53.000 Hey! 0.99

01:48:54.000 Hey! 0.99

01:48:56.000 That's how I'm hitting mitts now.

01:48:57.000 I make Holly Holm.

01:48:58.000 The people are like, is that Holly Holm?

01:48:59.000 No, it's Brian Callen. 0.99

01:49:00.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:49:01.000 He's got the same legs. 1.00

01:49:02.000 They can tell the difference when they hear the impact, too.

01:49:03.000 I don't know, man.

01:49:04.000 Yeah.

01:49:04.000 I don't know.

01:49:05.000 I got crisp, crisp strikes.

01:49:08.000 I've seen you kick the bag, and it was very sad.

01:49:10.000 That's not true.

01:49:10.000 That's not true, because I wasn't opening up.

01:49:12.000 If I open up...

01:49:13.000 When I open up, Master Kim?

01:49:15.000 And when I do this, Master Kim?

01:49:16.000 My next studio is going to have a full gym set up, and I'll let you kick the bed. 0.99

01:49:21.000 We'll videotape it.

01:49:22.000 It's going to be scary.

01:49:23.000 You're going to let me kick the videotape? 0.99

01:49:24.000 No, I'm going to record it, you're going to kick, and then you're going to kick. 0.96

01:49:26.000 He's not going to do that.

01:49:27.000 Then we're going to have a fan vote off.

01:49:28.000 He definitely won't do that.

01:49:29.000 I kick very hard.

01:49:30.000 That'll make you sad. 0.98

01:49:30.000 I kick very hard. 0.98

01:49:32.000 They call me Brian. 0.99

01:49:34.000 My nickname when I fought and I'm not being a dick. 0.94

01:49:36.000 Listen, I say do. 0.92

01:49:37.000 They call me Brian Luke Rockhold Callum.

01:49:39.000 They call me Brian Luke Rockhold Callum.

01:49:40.000 You know what?

01:49:41.000 You know on stage?

01:49:43.000 Well, they do that now.

01:49:45.000 When we do the live shows, everyone goes, let's see a kick!

01:49:51.000 Do a kick!

01:49:52.000 My wheel kick is sick!

01:49:55.000 What I need to do is get you some of these barbell jeans so you can throw kicks with tight pants on. 1.00

01:49:59.000 I'm obsessed with those, please. 1.00

01:50:00.000 This is the shit, man. 1.00

01:50:02.000 Apparently Diesel makes them too. 1.00

01:50:04.000 I asked you, I need some.

01:50:06.000 I have a beautiful backside.

01:50:08.000 Contact them.

01:50:08.000 Get a hold of them.

01:50:09.000 I'm sure they follow you. 1.00

01:50:10.000 Get a hold of them, you lazy fuck. 1.00

01:50:11.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:50:12.000 Or you could always just order them.

01:50:14.000 Let's get these chairs and let's get some barbell jeans. 1.00

01:50:16.000 Ergo Depot.

01:50:17.000 Go to Ergo Depot.

01:50:18.000 These are called Capisco.

01:50:20.000 Capisco, the jeans?

01:50:21.000 Stand up.

01:50:21.000 Let me see how tight they are on you.

01:50:24.000 They're tight. 1.00

01:50:25.000 You got a dick on you, though. 1.00

01:50:27.000 Rogan has a dick. 1.00

01:50:28.000 I know he does. 1.00

01:50:29.000 That's not bad.

01:50:30.000 Dude, they're like sweatpants.

01:50:31.000 Look at that.

01:50:32.000 Bro, you're basically winning joggers. 0.98

01:50:34.000 Dude, you're like Anderson Silva with those knees.

01:50:36.000 They're joggers with jeans.

01:50:37.000 There's no binding.

01:50:38.000 You're ridiculously flexible.

01:50:39.000 You really are. 1.00

01:50:40.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:50:41.000 Do you show off in yoga? 1.00

01:50:42.000 No, I just do yoga.

01:50:44.000 There's girls in my class that are a hundred times more flexible than me. 0.64

01:50:46.000 This is one Indian chick in my yoga class that does that bow pose where she gets her foot literally up in the air, like way above her head. 1.00

01:50:54.000 It's crazy.

01:50:54.000 It's insane.

01:50:55.000 When it gets crazy like that, I sit there like this.

01:50:57.000 Dude, you get competitive?

01:50:58.000 I don't get competitive. 1.00

01:50:59.000 I don't want to blow my asshole out, so I just sit there. 0.99

01:51:02.000 I'm just like, nope. 1.00

01:51:04.000 Ain't for the big guy.

01:51:05.000 How often have you been doing this yoga?

01:51:06.000 Three times a week.

01:51:07.000 That's awesome, dude.

01:51:08.000 I love it.

01:51:09.000 Oh, it's so good for your body, right?

01:51:10.000 I love it, man.

01:51:10.000 Do you feel like your body, like your back's loosening up and your neck and everything?

01:51:14.000 Loosen up.

01:51:14.000 For me, it's more of a mental thing.

01:51:16.000 I just feel great after I do it.

01:51:18.000 Me too.

01:51:18.000 More compassionate, relaxed, friendly.

01:51:21.000 I'm bored, man.

01:51:23.000 I don't want to say I'm bored with jiu-jitsu, but it's all the same to me, you know?

01:51:26.000 Like, I'm going the same guy, so I wasn't feeling, like, very motivated.

01:51:28.000 Why don't you move around?

01:51:29.000 Go to a different gym every now and then?

01:51:31.000 Are you going gi or all no gi? 0.56

01:51:32.000 It just depends.

01:51:33.000 I'll do both.

01:51:34.000 I'll do both.

01:51:35.000 A lot of no gi, but I'll do both. 1.00

01:51:37.000 Have you thought about doing jiu-jitsu competitions?

01:51:39.000 I don't know when I find the time to put the proper training into it.

01:51:42.000 Right.

01:51:42.000 And is it because of doing the podcast or are you about to have a kid?

01:51:46.000 Everything.

01:51:46.000 A lot going on.

01:51:47.000 Podcasts, shows, everything, man.

01:51:49.000 It takes a lot of time.

01:51:51.000 He does all the merchandising and everything.

01:51:52.000 And I wouldn't want to do myself a disservice by showing up half-assed.

01:51:56.000 I would never do that.

01:51:57.000 So unless I can be 100%, there's no way I'd sign up for one.

01:52:01.000 What if, like, Metamorris came at you or one of those other organizations that's doing, like, EBI? If EBI, I would help, you know, if Eddie approached me and we talked about it as the right timing, I would do it.

01:52:12.000 I don't know if I'd do Metamorris again just because of personal issues.

01:52:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:16.000 But with Eddie, I would...

01:52:18.000 Like some super fight type deal?

01:52:19.000 Yeah, I love Eddie.

01:52:20.000 If he said, hey, I want you to do a super fight here and it was the right time, I'd do it.

01:52:24.000 Would you fight me?

01:52:25.000 Would you fight Cyborg again?

01:52:26.000 When I say Cyborg, for folks listening, we're not talking about Christina.

01:52:30.000 Is it Christina?

01:52:30.000 Yeah, Christina Cyborg.

01:52:33.000 The female Cyborg. 1.00

01:52:35.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 Well, it used to be Santos and Justino, I think it is.

01:52:38.000 I think you're right.

01:52:40.000 She's Invicta women's 145 pound champion.

01:52:44.000 We're talking about Ricardo Abreu, who's also known as Cyborg.

01:52:49.000 Not to be confused with Cyborg Evangelista.

01:52:53.000 He's also the number one grappler in the world.

01:52:55.000 Yes.

01:52:56.000 Well, he's...

01:52:57.000 Very high.

01:52:58.000 Is there a number one guy?

01:53:00.000 He was number one because he beat Bouchesha last year, I think, in Abu Dhabi.

01:53:03.000 So technically he was absolute.

01:53:06.000 He's a beast. 1.00

01:53:07.000 He's a fucking monster. 1.00

01:53:07.000 He's a beast. 1.00

01:53:08.000 He's a fucking monster. 1.00

01:53:09.000 And his tornado guard. 1.00

01:53:10.000 God damn it, man. 0.99

01:53:12.000 You watch that guy. 1.00

01:53:12.000 He's a motherfucker. 1.00

01:53:13.000 He's amazing. 1.00

01:53:14.000 He's amazing.

01:53:15.000 And his strength and conditioning videos are also super inspirational. 0.99

01:53:18.000 All the crazy shit that he does. 1.00

01:53:20.000 That guy's a beast. 1.00

01:53:20.000 I'm a fan, man. 1.00

01:53:21.000 And you know what else I like about him? 0.81

01:53:23.000 He's like a crazy world traveler.

01:53:25.000 He goes all around the world. 0.97

01:53:26.000 He travels to see the world.

01:53:28.000 Really?

01:53:29.000 Yeah, I follow him on Instagram.

01:53:30.000 He's really cool.

01:53:31.000 Yeah.

01:53:31.000 Good dude.

01:53:32.000 He's talking about wanderlust.

01:53:33.000 He loves going.

01:53:34.000 He was in South Africa.

01:53:35.000 He goes to Africa. 0.55

01:53:36.000 He goes to all these different places.

01:53:37.000 Every couple months, his Instagram is him in some new country, having a good time, doing jujitsu.

01:53:43.000 Does he post pictures of his girl on Instagram?

01:53:45.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:53:46.000 Her ass. 1.00

01:53:47.000 You could sit this fucking coconut. 1.00

01:53:50.000 Really? 1.00

01:53:50.000 He walked by, I was like, God damn. 1.00

01:53:52.000 You might have got the shop shut down, but you win, my man. 1.00

01:53:55.000 Your girl is ridiculous. 1.00

01:53:56.000 He's a big, handsome guy. 1.00

01:53:57.000 So is yours, by the way.

01:53:58.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:53:59.000 Both of you guys shut them down there, too.

01:54:04.000 It's a double shop shutdown.

01:54:07.000 He's like, yeah, but look at that. 1.00

01:54:09.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:54:10.000 Neutralized. 1.00

01:54:11.000 Damn. 1.00

01:54:11.000 Neutralized, sir. 1.00

01:54:12.000 Check out this LA ass, son. 1.00

01:54:15.000 Shop how? 1.00

01:54:17.000 That would be fascinating, though, to see you guys under that rule set, too.

01:54:20.000 That EBI rule set is dope. 0.99

01:54:21.000 I love the fucking... 0.99

01:54:22.000 We're talking about Eddie Bravo put together this invitational tournament that Brendan and I went to yesterday and Joey Diaz, and it was fucking sensational. 0.99

01:54:32.000 Best... 0.92

01:54:33.000 Best I've ever seen.

01:54:34.000 So good.

01:54:34.000 I texted you this morning.

01:54:35.000 I said, bro, I've been to a lot of jiu-jitsu competitions.

01:54:37.000 I've been in, you know, high level one myself.

01:54:39.000 I've never seen anything like that. 1.00

01:54:40.000 From start to beginning, you're like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:54:43.000 This is what's great about it. 0.99

01:54:44.000 It cuts out all of the, like, no one's going to be in danger.

01:54:49.000 It's going to be, you know, like a total stalemate.

01:54:52.000 Even if it's a total stalemate, which some of them were, at the end of ten minutes, you go into positions.

01:54:58.000 Like, you remember in wrestling, how you'd start off behind someone?

01:55:02.000 Well, in this, Eddie will start you off.

01:55:04.000 You have a choice of one or two options.

01:55:06.000 You could take spiderweb.

01:55:08.000 Spiderweb means someone's defending the arm bar, but you have both legs locked.

01:55:12.000 On the ground.

01:55:13.000 They're on their back flat.

01:55:15.000 You're inside control with one arm hooked and you're holding onto the leg.

01:55:19.000 That's how you're allowed to start.

01:55:20.000 Ready, set, go.

01:55:21.000 And you start from there.

01:55:22.000 Or the other position is you take the back, both hooks in, over, under.

01:55:26.000 Not under the chin, but over, under like this.

01:55:28.000 They're allowed to hold on.

01:55:30.000 They're defending.

01:55:31.000 They hold onto your hand.

01:55:32.000 Ready, set, go.

01:55:33.000 And then it's a battle for there. 0.99

01:55:34.000 So everyone's in fucking danger. 0.99

01:55:37.000 Everyone's in danger. 0.99

01:55:38.000 It's very similar to college football over time.

01:55:40.000 Where you're both in a dangerous position, whoever scores first.

01:55:44.000 And then the cool thing is, whoever got out fastest at the end actually won.

01:55:49.000 So if there's no submission.

01:55:50.000 So if there's no submission, so they'll do like three rounds of it?

01:55:53.000 Is it three rounds?

01:55:54.000 Three rounds, back and forth.

01:55:55.000 One, you go, he goes.

01:55:56.000 You get advantage, he gets advantage.

01:55:58.000 Or whoever taps the person first gets it.

01:56:02.000 But if you go and you tap him, he has an opportunity to tap you next.

01:56:06.000 Because he gets position, just like college football.

01:56:09.000 Incredible.

01:56:09.000 It's so good.

01:56:10.000 So we're at the Orpheum.

01:56:12.000 It's sold out.

01:56:13.000 There's thousands of people. 1.00

01:56:14.000 They're fucking jujitsu fans, and they're going crazy. 1.00

01:56:16.000 We had so much fun. 1.00

01:56:18.000 Wow.

01:56:18.000 It was so good for Eddie Bravo.

01:56:20.000 Eddie Bravo's killing it. 1.00

01:56:21.000 He's fucking killing it. 1.00

01:56:22.000 Eddie Bravo's got 50 fucking schools, okay? 1.00

01:56:25.000 I think more now. 0.99

01:56:26.000 I'm saying 50. That's the last count I know of.

01:56:28.000 I think he opened up a couple more of them all across the country.

01:56:31.000 He's got affiliates in other countries.

01:56:33.000 How about in the next show?

01:56:34.000 Yeah.

01:56:34.000 The next show is in Mexico City.

01:56:36.000 $50,000 grand prize.

01:56:38.000 He's gonna be a mogul.

01:56:40.000 For grappling.

01:56:41.000 For grappling.

01:56:41.000 50 grand.

01:56:43.000 It's about doing what you do really well and focusing just on that.

01:56:47.000 And loving it.

01:56:48.000 And he's got the best personality ever.

01:56:50.000 He's just such a character.

01:56:52.000 He's the greatest.

01:56:53.000 And he's joking around while he's refereeing.

01:56:56.000 He's saying funny things while he's refereeing.

01:56:58.000 But not trying.

01:56:59.000 You know, like something happened and he jokes around about it.

01:57:02.000 It was great, man.

01:57:02.000 It was a cool venue, man.

01:57:04.000 We enjoyed the fuck out of it.

01:57:05.000 It's just so nice to see someone figure out a way to make grappling really exciting.

01:57:10.000 I was planning to leave early.

01:57:10.000 I'm not going to lie to you.

01:57:11.000 I was like, what lie can I tell?

01:57:13.000 I get a little depressed here.

01:57:14.000 But then, you know, because usually Jiu-Jitsu takes forever and it's kind of boring. 0.99

01:57:19.000 That shit was thrilling. 0.99

01:57:21.000 Riddling, son. 1.00

01:57:22.000 Well, I wasn't gonna miss it for the world.

01:57:23.000 In fact, I flew in from Vegas.

01:57:26.000 I got up at 5 in the morning.

01:57:27.000 I went from Vegas.

01:57:29.000 I took the airplane to LA, drove to Disneyland, hung out with my family till 4 o'clock, got in my car, drove to Eddie's thing, went from 5 to 8.30 at Eddie's thing. 0.99

01:57:40.000 It's fucking nuts, man. 0.90

01:57:41.000 You know how I think on the Whitney Cummings podcast you said, you look at Kevin Hart and he makes you feel lazy, so you want to work harder? 0.99

01:57:47.000 Yeah, I think you mentioned something like that.

01:57:49.000 That's what you do for me.

01:57:51.000 I was talking about it with someone the other day.

01:57:54.000 You're talking to me about it. 1.00

01:57:55.000 Yeah, I'm like, dude, what the fuck? 0.99

01:57:57.000 On the podcast. 0.99

01:57:57.000 Yeah, because sometimes I'm still in my fighter kind of mindset where it's like, okay, Monday through Friday you do work. 0.99

01:58:05.000 Saturday you take off.

01:58:05.000 Sunday you take completely off.

01:58:07.000 And then reset on Monday.

01:58:09.000 And then Wednesday's light days.

01:58:10.000 So, you know, I'm kind of used to that.

01:58:11.000 But there's none of that in this world I'm in now.

01:58:14.000 Not when we're doing that web series.

01:58:16.000 Not when we're coming up with ideas.

01:58:18.000 But all this, man.

01:58:19.000 And then I text you. 1.00

01:58:21.000 I'm like, dude, you're fucking nuts. 1.00

01:58:22.000 I can't believe you do that. 1.00

01:58:23.000 And you text me and you said, I don't waste time.

01:58:26.000 I screenshot that. 0.97

01:58:28.000 You're like, I don't fucking waste time. 0.93

01:58:29.000 It was like when somebody wanted your number and you were like, you know what? 0.98

01:58:34.000 I don't have time for people like that.

01:58:36.000 I don't want to deal with that. 0.99

01:58:40.000 I enjoy a lot of things and what I've found that the best way to live my life for me, I'm not saying, you know, other people, some people really love their life to sit around and fuck off. 0.99

01:58:50.000 When I sit around and fuck off, I don't like me. 0.99

01:58:52.000 I like to get things done. 0.99

01:58:54.000 But the things that I do, they're recreational.

01:58:56.000 They're all fun. 0.99

01:58:57.000 Like Disneyland was fun as fuck with my kids. 1.00

01:59:00.000 Eddie Bravo Invitational was fun as fuck. 1.00

01:59:02.000 The UFC was fun as fuck. 0.99

01:59:03.000 My sold-out show at the Ca Theater where they do the Cirque du Soleil at MGM. With Joey Diaz and Jim Norton, Friday night, fun as fuck. 1.00

01:59:11.000 Fuck as fun as fuck, too. 1.00

01:59:12.000 Those are jobs, right? 1.00

01:59:14.000 But those are fun things.

01:59:15.000 Yeah.

01:59:16.000 And, you know, training is fun.

01:59:18.000 Stand-up comedy couldn't be any funner.

01:59:20.000 You know, the only real work work is, like, I've got to discipline myself to sometimes work out when I don't want to, write when I don't want to.

01:59:27.000 But I... This is how I feel.

01:59:31.000 It's harder for me to not do what I'm supposed to do than it is for me to do what I'm supposed to do.

01:59:35.000 Because if I don't do what I'm supposed to do, then I deal with regret and doubt.

01:59:40.000 I've done it before.

01:59:41.000 I've done it a lot of my life.

01:59:42.000 I've felt those feelings.

01:59:44.000 I don't like it.

01:59:45.000 So what I do is I just don't do that.

01:59:47.000 I just say, well, what is the difference?

01:59:49.000 If I don't do it, then I'm going to have to feel like I didn't do it and feel like a loser. 1.00

01:59:52.000 So get after it, bitch. 1.00

01:59:53.000 Well, I think it's good just for people to know your schedule because you're at where you're at, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

01:59:59.000 Because of your work ethic.

02:00:00.000 So for me, if I look at someone, it's like, God, how'd they get there? 1.00

02:00:04.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

02:00:05.000 The schedule is insane. 1.00

02:00:07.000 It's very rare that someone is successful that doesn't have a crazy schedule.

02:00:11.000 Yes.

02:00:11.000 And if they are, they're not going to appreciate it.

02:00:14.000 But it's all like, what is where you're at?

02:00:19.000 Is where you're at where you want to be?

02:00:20.000 Are you enjoying it?

02:00:22.000 Because what I'm happy about the most is that I enjoy what I do. 0.99

02:00:27.000 If I was working as a CEO of some fucking corporation or something like that, and I was putting all these crazy hours, like the same kind of hours I put in now, the same kind of effort, I'd probably be a miserable, drunk, pill-popping psychopath who's just looking to escape and go bang hookers or something. 0.98

02:00:42.000 I'd be looking for some sort of a release. 0.99

02:00:43.000 You need to know why you're doing it.

02:00:45.000 Like, I think you've got to get back to the why sometimes when you lose motivation.

02:00:48.000 You've got to go back to the why.

02:00:51.000 What are you really trying to do?

02:00:52.000 You know, it's like with stand-up, I was thinking about this this weekend a lot, and you get to a point in stand-up, and you know this, is making a lot of people laugh for an hour is not really...

02:01:03.000 A lot of people can do that.

02:01:04.000 Are you growing?

02:01:06.000 Are you writing new stuff?

02:01:08.000 Are you being thematic?

02:01:09.000 Are you surprising yourself?

02:01:10.000 Are you coming up with a whole new angle, a new idea?

02:01:13.000 Or are you falling back on your old tricks?

02:01:16.000 Even if it's a variation on that theme.

02:01:17.000 And that challenge never goes away.

02:01:19.000 Yeah, there's that feeling when you don't do a new joke because you're scared of it, it's not going so well, so you go back to some old stuff you know works, and it gets a laugh, and it kills, but you feel hollow.

02:01:29.000 You feel dead inside.

02:01:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

02:01:32.000 Well, you can't fake yourself.

02:01:34.000 No.

02:01:34.000 You can't trick yourself.

02:01:35.000 No. 0.90

02:01:36.000 The guys who can are monsters.

02:01:38.000 Ugh. 0.56

02:01:38.000 Terrible. 0.56

02:01:39.000 I can't do it.

02:01:40.000 I feel unauthentic.

02:01:41.000 And also, when you do stand-up, you have people coming back to see you three times or whatever.

02:01:45.000 You owe it to them.

02:01:47.000 I can't come back with the same bag of tricks.

02:01:48.000 And it's really hard to write new material.

02:01:50.000 It's really hard to have a new hour and be thematic after a year.

02:01:53.000 It's really, really difficult.

02:01:55.000 But part of me dies when I go back sometimes to Old Faithful just to get that laugh.

02:02:01.000 It's not satisfying.

02:02:02.000 But you also have to be entertaining.

02:02:03.000 One of the things I said, I talked to Jim Jeffries about this.

02:02:06.000 I'm like, when you do, not Jim Jeffries, Jim Gaffigan.

02:02:08.000 I'm like, when you do a new special, do you abandon all your own material?

02:02:11.000 He goes, yeah, a lot of it.

02:02:14.000 But he goes, it's important for me to do new stuff, but it's also important for me to do well.

02:02:18.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 It's like, the people pay a lot of money to come see me.

02:02:21.000 I have to make sure the show is really good.

02:02:23.000 Mm-hmm.

02:02:23.000 And sometimes I get people shout out, they like some of the old stuff.

02:02:26.000 They want to see the old songs.

02:02:28.000 So you'll give it to them and stuff.

02:02:30.000 Well Jeffries has, or excuse me, Gaffigan, I keep doing that.

02:02:32.000 Gaffigan has that with that Hot Pockets thing.

02:02:34.000 It's almost like you can't do stand-up without doing that Hot Pocket thing.

02:02:38.000 People want to see it. 0.99

02:02:39.000 Yeah, and sometimes Louis C.K., they'll yell out, bag of dicks. 0.99

02:02:43.000 Had some, that bag of dicks joke. 1.00

02:02:45.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:02:45.000 Yeah, man, you miss some of those old beats and those old songs. 0.98

02:02:50.000 I think if you're not constantly a little bit uncomfortable, this is gonna sound weird, but I was thinking about this.

02:02:57.000 I go and spar with Chris Van Erden.

02:02:59.000 He doesn't beat me up.

02:03:00.000 He doesn't hit me.

02:03:01.000 I mean, he'll hit me, but I say, just don't break my jaw.

02:03:03.000 Please don't hit me in the nose.

02:03:04.000 But I'm nervous.

02:03:05.000 I'm always nervous.

02:03:06.000 I don't want to go spar.

02:03:07.000 I don't want to do it.

02:03:07.000 I'm nervous.

02:03:09.000 And we move around and we'll go four rounds.

02:03:11.000 I'm exhausted. 1.00

02:03:11.000 I look like shit. 1.00

02:03:12.000 I get hit. 1.00

02:03:13.000 I don't feel good.

02:03:14.000 But when I do that and I feel uncomfortable and I sit in my car and I'm all sweaty and I did a bad job, but I overcame that fear on a Saturday and I went and did it anyway, something happens.

02:03:25.000 Where I get more creative, where I just start writing.

02:03:29.000 I don't know what it is, but it opens up a different channel.

02:03:31.000 It's brain trauma.

02:03:32.000 Maybe.

02:03:33.000 It's also a lack of regret, because you don't have the regret that you didn't shy away from something that was challenging to you.

02:03:41.000 Instead, you embraced it, and then you got excited to the fact that you did it.

02:03:44.000 Hey, I did it.

02:03:44.000 And being excited about things also is like creative fuel.

02:03:47.000 I think it's so important to do that.

02:03:49.000 I tell you what, I'm not finding that physically.

02:03:51.000 I get it mentally from all the shows and our merchandise and doing all this in the podcast, but as far as physically...

02:03:57.000 Ito Bordeaux.

02:03:58.000 Take his class.

02:03:59.000 Take Ito Bordeaux.

02:03:59.000 But you're getting it a little bit out of...

02:04:01.000 I just realized that's a Fighter and the Kid t-shirt, the Metallica shirt.

02:04:04.000 Yeah, you're not mad at that.

02:04:05.000 That's our West Coast tour.

02:04:06.000 I can't wait for Scrooge McDuck.

02:04:10.000 There will be a Scrooge McDuck fighter in the kid's shirt.

02:04:13.000 I will be wearing it on this podcast.

02:04:14.000 It will be limited edition because Warner Brothers will find out about it.

02:04:18.000 And it will be a problem.

02:04:20.000 We'll release it on the darkness.

02:04:21.000 He's going to have to sell it only with Bitcoin.

02:04:24.000 So nobody can get money out of it.

02:04:26.000 Sue, huh? 0.92

02:04:27.000 I didn't get any money for those.

02:04:30.000 We're out of here.

02:04:31.000 It's 4.30.

02:04:31.000 Come see me at the Atlanta Improv this weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

02:04:36.000 I heard it's a great room.

02:04:37.000 It's a great room.

02:04:38.000 I love Atlanta.

02:04:39.000 I love it.

02:04:39.000 I'm doing the Tabernacle there in January, I think?

02:04:43.000 Sold out.

02:04:43.000 Sorry.

02:04:44.000 You do theaters?

02:04:45.000 Fire and the Kid Live.

02:04:46.000 You know how I do.

02:04:46.000 Fire and the Kid Live.

02:04:47.000 Go to tfatk.com.

02:04:50.000 How are we doing?

02:04:50.000 We got Seattle.

02:04:51.000 How are we doing, Seattle, Portland?

02:04:53.000 Seattle, Portland, Vegas, San Diego.

02:04:55.000 Everyone else sold out.

02:04:57.000 Fighterandthekidlive.com, is that what it is?

02:04:58.000 Nope, it's just tfatk.com.

02:05:00.000 Atlanta Improv this weekend!

02:05:02.000 T-Fat K, and I'm at the Bob Carr Theater in Orlando on Friday night. 0.99

02:05:06.000 Alright, see you later, you fucks. 1.00

02:05:10.000 See you later, you fucks. 1.00

The Joe Rogan Experience - December 14, 2015

Joe Rogan Experience #736 - Brendan Schaub & Bryan Callen

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