The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #787 - Eddie Huang

00:00:01.000 Yes!

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00:00:05.000 What's up, baby?

00:00:05.000 How you doing?

00:00:06.000 How you doing?

00:00:06.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:00:07.000 That is a very colorful...

00:00:08.000 You got a lot going on with that shirt.

00:00:10.000 Fishing.

00:00:11.000 Fisherman's outfit.

00:00:12.000 Yeah.

00:00:13.000 Is that what it is?

00:00:13.000 It's an old Nautica shirt.

00:00:16.000 I found.

00:00:16.000 Oh, it's like, it's a shirt that has pictures of rain gear hanging up on hooks.

00:00:22.000 Yeah, and binoculars and boots and nets and shit.

00:00:25.000 It's a very powerful shirt, nautical themed shirt.

00:00:28.000 Yeah, it's like a nautical shed theme.

00:00:32.000 Yeah.

00:00:32.000 Where you put your nautical gear.

00:00:34.000 Ice fishing, I think.

00:00:35.000 Do you fish?

00:00:37.000 I did in Orlando.

00:00:37.000 I used to fish a lot.

00:00:39.000 Yeah?

00:00:39.000 I couldn't party for a couple years.

00:00:41.000 I'd get tested, so I just went fishing after school.

00:00:44.000 Instead of partying?

00:00:45.000 Instead of partying.

00:00:45.000 What were you getting tested for?

00:00:48.000 Your probation officers show up at your crib or whatever.

00:00:52.000 What did you do to get you a probation officer?

00:00:54.000 I think we talked about this before.

00:00:57.000 I had an assault my second year of college.

00:01:00.000 I caught an assault charge, but it was a self-defense, self-defense.

00:01:03.000 I caught an assault charge.

00:01:04.000 Self-defense.

00:01:05.000 Self-defense, so I pled out.

00:01:07.000 No, me and my buddy Justin Foreman, I couldn't go party, but he would come pick me up, and we'd just go fishing on the lakes and shit.

00:01:15.000 Orlando's got really good bass fishing.

00:01:17.000 Yeah.

00:01:17.000 No, it really does.

00:01:18.000 I love fishing.

00:01:20.000 I'm way into bass fishing.

00:01:21.000 Really?

00:01:22.000 Like largemouth?

00:01:22.000 Yeah, largemouth.

00:01:23.000 I do the rubber worms.

00:01:25.000 I do the frogs off their lily pads.

00:01:27.000 I do all that shit.

00:01:28.000 Spinner baits, all that jazz.

00:01:30.000 Crank baits. 0.76

00:01:31.000 Yeah.

00:01:31.000 Little Rapala, little minnows and shit.

00:01:33.000 Yeah, mine was the watermelon seed worms that bounce off the floor.

00:01:36.000 Oh, look at you, dude.

00:01:39.000 Did you ever get one of those boats, those little bass boats with the flat bottoms where you can move around with a little trolling motor?

00:01:45.000 Yeah, so what we did was, I had a canoe.

00:01:47.000 I had a canoe at the crib, but then on the other lake, we saw this onboard motor that the dude had just left on his dock.

00:01:55.000 So one night, we were young, it was like high school or whatever, so we stole this dude's motor and put it on my canoe.

00:02:00.000 So we were cruising with the fucking onboard motor on my canoe.

00:02:05.000 How did you install it on a canoe?

00:02:07.000 Because a canoe has a pointy end as opposed to a flat end.

00:02:10.000 I don't know.

00:02:11.000 My boy Justin figured it out.

00:02:12.000 I have no idea how he fucking did it.

00:02:14.000 But it doesn't make any sense.

00:02:15.000 He rigged it up to put it on the back of the shit.

00:02:18.000 But because a canoe has two points.

00:02:19.000 There's a point in the front and a point in the back.

00:02:21.000 Yeah.

00:02:21.000 How the hell do you get a motor back there?

00:02:24.000 He did it.

00:02:25.000 I have no idea.

00:02:26.000 He called it the outlaw.

00:02:27.000 Was it a trolling motor, like a real quiet one, or was it a big, heavy...

00:02:31.000 It was the quiet little one you can put in the front.

00:02:34.000 It's that little thing.

00:02:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:02:37.000 Yeah, the idea of those is you want to almost kind of go against if the tide is pulling you one way or move along the bank.

00:02:45.000 You know, in freshwater, you can use them.

00:02:48.000 Actually, they're probably only using them in freshwater.

00:02:50.000 Only, because you could creep into the lily pads.

00:02:52.000 Yeah.

00:02:52.000 So we'd creep in, and there was like a drop-off on this lake on the Butler chain, and like around sundown, just fish would just be right there.

00:02:59.000 If you get to the drop-off, you could hit them.

00:03:01.000 I love fishing.

00:03:02.000 It's so fun.

00:03:03.000 There's something primal about it.

00:03:05.000 There's something primal about when you catch something and you see it.

00:03:08.000 Like when you're like, I got one, I got one, I got one.

00:03:10.000 And as it's coming up, you see it in the water.

00:03:12.000 Like, oh, there it is.

00:03:13.000 Oh my goodness.

00:03:14.000 I think it goes back to ancient DNA or something.

00:03:18.000 Yeah, it's also, you can feel the life on the line.

00:03:21.000 You know, you can feel it.

00:03:22.000 But I was a catch and release.

00:03:24.000 I used to eat them, but then I started feeling bad because I was going out every day, so I just let them go.

00:03:28.000 If you really feel bad, don't catch and release.

00:03:30.000 Because when you catch and release, a lot of them die.

00:03:32.000 That's the dirty secret about catch and release fishing.

00:03:35.000 So you just eat it.

00:03:36.000 It's kind of creepy.

00:03:37.000 Because, like, I went salmon fishing, and this is really kind of brought home to me when I went salmon fishing.

00:03:42.000 Me and Ari Shafir, a couple years ago, we went up to Alaska.

00:03:46.000 And right when we were getting up there, they had turned into catch and release because they have like a salmon weir.

00:03:53.000 Do you know what a weir is?

00:03:54.000 It's like they have these sort of...

00:04:09.000 We're good to go.

00:04:23.000 They got, like, right before we were going up there, they got poor numbers.

00:04:26.000 And it was kind of ironic because the day we got there, the numbers were off the fucking charts.

00:04:33.000 We got there at, like, one of the best days for salmon fishing ever.

00:04:38.000 But we had to let them all go.

00:04:40.000 It was real weird.

00:04:41.000 But we were catching a shitload of them.

00:04:44.000 You couldn't keep one of them.

00:04:44.000 They didn't even let you keep one?

00:04:45.000 No, we couldn't keep any of them.

00:04:47.000 We caught a rainbow trout.

00:04:48.000 I got to keep that.

00:04:49.000 It was pretty rare.

00:04:50.000 You don't really get too many rainbows up there, but the salmon were giant.

00:04:53.000 But we were catching them all day and releasing them.

00:04:55.000 But you release it and you're like, hmm, this motherfucker ain't gonna make it. 0.71

00:04:58.000 You know, you see some blood.

00:04:59.000 Yeah, sometimes if it gets hooked like deeper than the lip and stuff like that, but I felt alright about mine.

00:05:05.000 I would get them out of the lip, but you're right.

00:05:07.000 Sometimes if they swallowed the bait, if they swallowed the bait, I'd take it.

00:05:10.000 You know?

00:05:11.000 Right.

00:05:11.000 If it was in the lip, I'd let it go.

00:05:12.000 Well, some fish just don't taste that good either.

00:05:14.000 That's the thing about largemouth bass.

00:05:15.000 Yeah, they're not delicious fish.

00:05:17.000 Yeah.

00:05:17.000 That's fucking cat food, bro.

00:05:20.000 Like a salmon, salmon's a delicious fish.

00:05:23.000 Yeah.

00:05:23.000 But a largemouth bass is like, yeah, I guess I could eat this.

00:05:26.000 Yeah, saltwater fish, man, I'll keep them.

00:05:28.000 If they're the right size, I'll keep them.

00:05:30.000 You can freeze them, whatever, they're delicious.

00:05:31.000 But freshwater fish, man, you know, I mean.

00:05:34.000 Except for trout.

00:05:35.000 Trout tastes really good.

00:05:36.000 Yeah.

00:05:37.000 Is that brackish water?

00:05:38.000 No.

00:05:39.000 Most trout are freshwater, but there are some brackish water, like steelheads, I think, that go into the ocean.

00:05:45.000 Yeah.

00:05:46.000 Isn't that correct?

00:05:47.000 I think steelheads make it into the ocean. 0.92

00:05:49.000 Or they get at least close.

00:05:50.000 They definitely get into brackish water.

00:05:52.000 Salmon, of course, go back and forth.

00:05:53.000 You still fish out here?

00:05:54.000 Yeah, man.

00:05:55.000 I love fishing.

00:05:56.000 Different places.

00:05:59.000 For fresh water, there's Lake Castaic, which is nice.

00:06:01.000 They have striped bass, which are great.

00:06:05.000 It's all fresh water.

00:06:07.000 It's kind of an artificial lake, but right now they're hurting because of this drought that we've had up here for the last few years.

00:06:14.000 We used to film Fear Factor up there, and especially there's this place called Tahone Ranch.

00:06:19.000 This is the most shocking.

00:06:20.000 There's this place called Tahone Ranch that had this beautiful lake for largemouth bass, and we used to drop people on Fear Factor out of helicopters in this lake.

00:06:28.000 Now, the lake is completely dry.

00:06:32.000 There is nothing in the lake.

00:06:33.000 It's dirty.

00:06:34.000 Dead.

00:06:35.000 Totally dry.

00:06:36.000 Completely flat.

00:06:38.000 You could see the bottom of it and it was a mass fish die off.

00:06:41.000 And they said there was some beautiful, huge 10 plus pound bass that just died in that lake.

00:06:46.000 Of no air, no water, no nothing.

00:06:48.000 That's crazy.

00:06:49.000 Just dried up.

00:06:50.000 So you could see it in that lake and just dead fish everywhere?

00:06:52.000 There's not.

00:06:53.000 Well, now you can't because all the birds picked them off and it's all gone.

00:06:55.000 Because it's been like that for over a year.

00:06:57.000 Yeah.

00:06:57.000 But it just completely dried up.

00:07:00.000 There's no water.

00:07:01.000 When a lake dries up, it's just Thanksgiving for birds.

00:07:03.000 Yeah.

00:07:04.000 Yeah, well, for a little while.

00:07:06.000 Damn.

00:07:06.000 Birds get diarrhea?

00:07:07.000 That's sad, man.

00:07:08.000 They must get diarrhea, right?

00:07:10.000 They probably eat anything, though.

00:07:11.000 Birds can.

00:07:12.000 Yeah, they eat a lot of shit.

00:07:14.000 I mean, they eat a lot of shit off my patio.

00:07:17.000 I drop food.

00:07:18.000 I throw it out there, man.

00:07:20.000 Seagulls eat anything.

00:07:21.000 So, how you liking West Coast living, baby?

00:07:24.000 I like it.

00:07:24.000 You like it out here?

00:07:24.000 You know what?

00:07:26.000 Fuck the winter.

00:07:28.000 I'm way into living out here.

00:07:30.000 I'm not into the people as much yet.

00:07:32.000 I like New York people.

00:07:34.000 You like Gritty.

00:07:34.000 I like haters.

00:07:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:07:37.000 New York got haters.

00:07:38.000 You like haters?

00:07:39.000 Yeah, I love haters, man.

00:07:40.000 Why?

00:07:41.000 I was telling a friend, New York's got people...

00:07:44.000 You do well, people in New York want to hate you.

00:07:47.000 You do well in LA, people just want to work for you.

00:07:49.000 And I'm like, go away, man.

00:07:50.000 Go away.

00:07:51.000 I'd rather you hate me and criticize me, and then I know what to work on.

00:07:55.000 Interesting.

00:07:56.000 I'm Asian.

00:07:57.000 I like criticism, man.

00:07:58.000 It just reminds me of my mother.

00:07:59.000 Oh, that's funny, man.

00:08:01.000 How so?

00:08:04.000 When you say that New York has more haters, when you're becoming successful in New York, you felt like it's just much more criticism, much more scrutiny?

00:08:15.000 Yeah, it's never like, yo, you did a great job.

00:08:18.000 It's like, yo, that was alright, man.

00:08:19.000 That was alright.

00:08:19.000 But let me tell you what you really need to be doing.

00:08:22.000 And so people will actually put you on to things and whatever.

00:08:25.000 I like criticism.

00:08:25.000 I like feedback.

00:08:26.000 I like it when it's valid and it's coming from people that aren't retarded. 0.98

00:08:30.000 Agreed.

00:08:31.000 That's a problem.

00:08:32.000 YouTube hate, not so much.

00:08:33.000 YouTube is the best.

00:08:35.000 It's just entertainment.

00:08:38.000 Well, here's the thing.

00:08:38.000 Have you ever left a YouTube comment?

00:08:40.000 Yeah, I talk to them all the time.

00:08:41.000 Do you?

00:08:42.000 It's funny.

00:08:42.000 But have you ever left a YouTube comment on something other than your own videos?

00:08:46.000 Yeah.

00:08:47.000 Really?

00:08:47.000 Yeah.

00:08:48.000 You're rare.

00:08:48.000 Yeah.

00:08:49.000 I think it's fun.

00:08:50.000 Most people, they watch YouTube videos and they enjoy it, or they don't enjoy it.

00:08:54.000 That's it.

00:08:55.000 They walk away.

00:08:55.000 They move on with their life.

00:08:57.000 You're a rare dude in that case.

00:08:59.000 Yeah, I think for the most part, 80% of the feedback's terrible, but every once in a while, a lot of our lower thirds on the show, like the nicknames we use and shit, it's like fans in the YouTube comments leave them.

00:09:09.000 And this is all the Vice stuff.

00:09:10.000 On the Vice stuff, on Wong's World, yeah.

00:09:12.000 Right.

00:09:12.000 So, they give me good suggestions, and I'll keep in touch with some of the people I talk to on YouTube.

00:09:17.000 Instagram commenters are pretty fucking good now, too.

00:09:20.000 Well, except when they have their accounts blocked.

00:09:22.000 It seems to me that, like, if you look at 90% of the cunts on Instagram, when you go to their accounts, they're blocked. 0.99

00:09:28.000 That is the land of the cowards.

00:09:30.000 Yeah.

00:09:31.000 Instagram is the land of the cowards.

00:09:33.000 Because you can't do that shit.

00:09:34.000 Like, you can't comment on someone else's stuff in most forms unless they can go to your stuff and look at you.

00:09:39.000 But on Instagram, they allow you that option.

00:09:42.000 And I think that's for cowards.

00:09:43.000 They should take it away.

00:09:44.000 You should own up to the things you're saying.

00:09:47.000 Well, here's my feeling.

00:09:48.000 If you're gonna be private, you shouldn't be allowed to comment.

00:09:51.000 Like, if you're gonna be private on Instagram, you shouldn't be allowed to just go on other people's pages and shit all over them.

00:09:57.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:09:57.000 Because I've read some just mean, nasty fucking shit that people write on these girls' pages about what the girls look like.

00:10:03.000 I'm like, oh, what does this motherfucker look like?

00:10:05.000 And I go, because all I can see of your face is this, like, one-eighth of a centimeter face.

00:10:10.000 And so then I go to their page, and it's blocked.

00:10:13.000 Yeah, I'll see on Homegirl's pages and stuff, there's dudes who say, I want to cum on your titties, and she's eating with her grandmother. 1.00

00:10:19.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:10:20.000 Come on, man.

00:10:21.000 It's rude.

00:10:22.000 Yeah, comment on the dumplings or something.

00:10:24.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:10:25.000 Yeah.

00:10:26.000 Grandma had a nice dumpling over there. 1.00

00:10:28.000 Especially if worried that the grandma might actually look at the picture with her granddaughter and be like, they're out there trying to come on my granddaughter's titties. 0.88

00:10:37.000 Luckily, my parents are only on Facebook.

00:10:40.000 My parents are fucking killing Facebook now.

00:10:42.000 See, Facebook is the most transparent.

00:10:44.000 You go right to someone's page and you see exactly who they are and it's a different animal.

00:10:50.000 Instagram's weird in that way.

00:10:52.000 Some people don't even have a photo.

00:10:54.000 You go to their Instagram page, there's no photo.

00:10:57.000 It's all blocked up, but then they just use it to comment on people's pages and shit on them.

00:11:01.000 YouTube and Instagram, like I said, 80% of it's terrible, but it's always entertaining.

00:11:06.000 It's fucking super fucking entertaining.

00:11:08.000 Sometimes it's not that entertaining to me because I feel like there's so much spinning your wheels.

00:11:13.000 These people that are super mega negative on these things, no one's getting anywhere with this.

00:11:19.000 This is just people with failed lives.

00:11:20.000 The negative ones are bad, but there's some good fucking jokes.

00:11:23.000 There's some comedians in the comments, man.

00:11:25.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

00:11:26.000 They got some fucking jokes in there.

00:11:27.000 Well, it's not all negative.

00:11:28.000 Definitely not all negative.

00:11:29.000 But as far as comments, I would say Instagram comments...

00:11:31.000 I'll walk through a mile of shit to get to a good joke.

00:11:34.000 I like a good joke.

00:11:35.000 I'll go through miles of shit.

00:11:36.000 I would say Instagram comments are probably the best out of all...

00:11:40.000 And Twitter's pretty goddamn good, too.

00:11:42.000 I mean, I'm real fortunate in that I would say that more than 99% of all the interactions I have with people online through social media are positive.

00:11:52.000 More than 99%.

00:11:53.000 It's probably like 99.9.

00:11:55.000 It's really good.

00:11:56.000 Well, because people love you.

00:11:57.000 Mine is probably, I think, like 70-30.

00:11:59.000 People love you too, man.

00:12:00.000 Come on, dude.

00:12:01.000 I put you up on Instagram today and people went crazy.

00:12:04.000 They're super happy to have you back.

00:12:05.000 Thank you.

00:12:06.000 Especially if they found out your fisherman shirt was rocking it too.

00:12:09.000 Nice.

00:12:12.000 You wearing a Fitbit?

00:12:14.000 What the fuck is going on?

00:12:15.000 What the fuck is going on, man?

00:12:17.000 Ketosis.

00:12:18.000 Gotta get to the ketosis, man.

00:12:19.000 No, you're not gonna get to ketosis with a rubber band.

00:12:21.000 What do you eat?

00:12:22.000 Gotta get to ketosis.

00:12:24.000 Well, I had a smoothie this morning.

00:12:25.000 What was in it?

00:12:27.000 Honey, sugar, fruit?

00:12:27.000 No, almond butter.

00:12:29.000 There's no sugar.

00:12:30.000 It was just almond butter and spirulina.

00:12:32.000 Oh, shit.

00:12:34.000 Well, you're coughing just thinking about it.

00:12:35.000 No, I'm coughing.

00:12:36.000 The coffee, man.

00:12:37.000 Coffee got me dehydrated.

00:12:38.000 Spirulina, protein powder, almond butter, fucking dates, and almond milk.

00:12:43.000 That's all good.

00:12:44.000 Well, the almond milk.

00:12:45.000 Was it almond milk from a store with a gang of sugar in it?

00:12:48.000 I don't know.

00:12:49.000 I didn't ask.

00:12:50.000 See, I'm new to this ketosis game.

00:12:52.000 Right?

00:12:52.000 I'm just getting into it.

00:12:54.000 I'm a rookie with it.

00:12:54.000 Well, that ain't gonna make it.

00:12:56.000 Most almond milk that you buy from stores, unless you look real careful, like if you buy like vanilla almond milk, it's bullshit.

00:13:02.000 You might as well be just drinking a chocolate shake.

00:13:04.000 Oh.

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:05.000 They're low.

00:13:06.000 Like, Duncan called me up.

00:13:07.000 Dude, I love almond milk!

00:13:08.000 It's the best, man!

00:13:10.000 It's so delicious!

00:13:10.000 It's really good for you!

00:13:12.000 I go, it's delicious, huh?

00:13:14.000 How many grams of sugar is in it?

00:13:16.000 Oh, I don't know.

00:13:16.000 Hold on.

00:13:18.000 19!

00:13:19.000 I go, yeah.

00:13:20.000 Dude, you're drinking sugar water.

00:13:21.000 You're drinking a glass of fucking...

00:13:23.000 By the way, that's an 8-ounce glass.

00:13:24.000 You're drinking 8 ounces.

00:13:25.000 I'm one of those idiots, man.

00:13:26.000 I'll wear this Fitbit.

00:13:27.000 I'll tell myself I'm going to get in shape, right?

00:13:30.000 And I'll eat healthy all day.

00:13:31.000 And then last night I got drunk and I ended up eating a bag of chips and Smurf gummies.

00:13:37.000 So that's not ketosis.

00:13:39.000 That's not the ketosis life.

00:13:40.000 Well, alcohol too.

00:13:42.000 Alcohol translates directly into sugar in your body.

00:13:44.000 It transforms.

00:13:45.000 But I just like to tell myself that I'm trying.

00:13:48.000 Well, what are you trying to do?

00:13:49.000 You're just trying to be healthier?

00:13:50.000 You're trying to lose weight?

00:13:51.000 I would like to go down a cup size.

00:13:53.000 A cup?

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 I'm kind of like a B. I'm like a 34B, standard cup size.

00:13:58.000 I'd like to be an A. An A? Yeah.

00:14:01.000 If I could get to like 32A, I think it'd help my basketball game.

00:14:05.000 Because I got the dream killers now, bro.

00:14:07.000 I want to try out for the NBDL. What's the NBDL? The NBA Development League, man.

00:14:13.000 Oh, I didn't know.

00:14:14.000 You could try out.

00:14:15.000 What?

00:14:16.000 Anybody can?

00:14:17.000 Anybody could.

00:14:17.000 You could try out.

00:14:18.000 That's not going to work.

00:14:19.000 Come on.

00:14:21.000 My dream is alive.

00:14:22.000 Joe Rogan, I think you got a little Ron Artest in you, some meta world peace.

00:14:26.000 Jamie's dream's alive!

00:14:27.000 I'm gonna go down to Cupside to try out for the NBDL, man.

00:14:31.000 Do this.

00:14:31.000 Do you play a lot of basketball?

00:14:32.000 I play a lot of basketball.

00:14:34.000 And watching the Knicks this year, I feel like I could do some things for them.

00:14:39.000 The Knicks are so fucking terrible.

00:14:41.000 Is it that bad?

00:14:42.000 Yeah.

00:14:43.000 How could the Knicks be terrible?

00:14:44.000 If they're in New York, they have money, right?

00:14:48.000 It's a giant-ass team.

00:14:49.000 There's a lot of bad things you can buy with money, like Carmelo Anthony.

00:14:52.000 Oh, is he bad?

00:14:53.000 He's terrible.

00:14:54.000 Really?

00:14:54.000 He had a good year this year, but it's just like, he's not terrible.

00:14:59.000 He's a bad...

00:15:00.000 Fit for this team because he needs to be on a winner.

00:15:03.000 And I'm like, he re-signed with the Knicks knowing it was a rebuilding team and he should be...

00:15:07.000 He should have gone to Chicago, honestly.

00:15:10.000 Should have gone to Chicago.

00:15:11.000 Or we should have traded Carmelo for Blake Griffin.

00:15:14.000 That would have helped the Clippers and it would have helped the Knicks.

00:15:15.000 This is a lot of technical talk that I'm not really hip to.

00:15:19.000 Alright, we'll move on.

00:15:20.000 New topics.

00:15:21.000 So you're just trying to be healthier is what you're trying to do.

00:15:23.000 Yeah.

00:15:24.000 Also, I got hoop dreams, Joe.

00:15:26.000 You do have hoop dreams, for real.

00:15:27.000 I still believe.

00:15:28.000 I still play ball.

00:15:29.000 I go to UCLA. I'll play at UCLA, play at USC, and I go to Montecito Heights Rec Center.

00:15:34.000 Monday, Wednesday, Fridays, I got open run.

00:15:36.000 Montecito Heights.

00:15:37.000 Where's that?

00:15:38.000 It's like Pasadena.

00:15:39.000 I'll drive an hour Monday, Wednesday, Friday mornings to go play ball.

00:15:43.000 Really?

00:15:44.000 I love it.

00:15:44.000 Wow.

00:15:45.000 Yeah.

00:15:46.000 That's cool.

00:15:47.000 Last year, I just turned 34 last month, and last year was the first year I was like, yo, I actually got a lot worse at basketball because I was getting incrementally better.

00:15:58.000 Right.

00:15:58.000 And I was like, yo, I think I'm getting old.

00:16:01.000 This was the first year I felt old.

00:16:02.000 I guarantee you it's just because you're busy.

00:16:04.000 34 is not old enough where your body starts deteriorating.

00:16:07.000 Oh, good.

00:16:07.000 Yeah.

00:16:08.000 Do you lift weights?

00:16:09.000 Yeah, I do weights.

00:16:10.000 I do plyometrics, isometrics.

00:16:13.000 That can fuck with your basketball game.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, I used to fuck with my pool game.

00:16:18.000 It was a big problem that I like to lift weights, but I also like to play pool.

00:16:22.000 And when you lift a lot of weights, you get sore.

00:16:24.000 And when you're sore and stiff, it fucks with your fine motor skills.

00:16:27.000 It would really fuck with my pool game.

00:16:29.000 Yeah, no, my jumper's trash right now.

00:16:31.000 Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do with lifting weights.

00:16:33.000 It could.

00:16:34.000 For a lot of people, when you're sore, you know how, I guess, I don't play basketball and I'm terrible at it, but I would imagine that it's similar to Poole in that you've got to know exactly how much effort to put on that ball.

00:16:47.000 Exactly.

00:16:48.000 I know when I crumple up a paper and I throw it in a trash can.

00:16:51.000 It's a weird thing, right?

00:16:53.000 Because you're kind of estimating the drop, the arc of that little thing.

00:16:57.000 You have to have this fine sense.

00:16:59.000 I'm going to send this video to everyone on my squad and be like, guys, you got to give me the ball more.

00:17:04.000 Shoot.

00:17:04.000 I'm just missing shots because I'm too strong now.

00:17:06.000 Lifting too many weights.

00:17:08.000 That's what it is.

00:17:08.000 Too swole.

00:17:08.000 That's why my jumper's not wet.

00:17:10.000 Too swole.

00:17:11.000 Too swole.

00:17:11.000 I'm way too swole for this game.

00:17:14.000 It does fuck.

00:17:15.000 I mean, there's a point of diminishing returns when it comes to lifting weights and then doing fine motor skill activities.

00:17:23.000 It used to fuck with me drawing, too.

00:17:25.000 If I lift a lot of weights, my hands would get tired from gripping and squeezing things.

00:17:30.000 And then when I would draw, my fine motor skills with my hands would be off.

00:17:35.000 It's true.

00:17:36.000 It affects it a lot.

00:17:38.000 Our team, we had this team...

00:17:40.000 Called the Molly Boys. 0.56

00:17:41.000 So that was my record.

00:17:42.000 The Molly Boys? 0.66

00:17:43.000 Like they're all on Molly?

00:17:44.000 Yeah.

00:17:45.000 Is that the idea?

00:17:45.000 Well, we all met, hanging out doing Molly, and then we made...

00:17:48.000 What an athletic crew.

00:17:51.000 A lot of energy.

00:17:52.000 Very positive squad.

00:17:54.000 Super positive squad.

00:17:55.000 Everybody's hugging everybody.

00:17:57.000 It's okay, dude.

00:17:58.000 You missed.

00:17:58.000 Give me a hug, bro.

00:17:59.000 Yeah, we lose by 30. It's cool, man.

00:18:01.000 I love you.

00:18:02.000 I love you, man.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, no, we look like fucking clowns.

00:18:07.000 Our jerseys had like Molly Ringwald's face on them and it said Molly Boys.

00:18:10.000 Really?

00:18:10.000 Yeah, I'll show you.

00:18:11.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:18:12.000 Please show me.

00:18:13.000 I want to put that shit online.

00:18:14.000 Yeah.

00:18:14.000 You got to fucking join the squad, Joe.

00:18:17.000 I'm in.

00:18:17.000 I'll get you a Molly Boys jersey.

00:18:18.000 Dude, I'm in.

00:18:19.000 Come on.

00:18:19.000 I think I might even have one in the fucking backseat of my car.

00:18:24.000 Molly Boyz jersey with your name all over it.

00:18:25.000 I need to have that.

00:18:26.000 After the show, you gotta give me that photo and I'm gonna put it on Instagram because that is goddamn hilarious.

00:18:32.000 Yup.

00:18:32.000 My boy Bernard designed this shit.

00:18:34.000 Molly Boyz.

00:18:35.000 Yes, here it is.

00:18:36.000 Look at these jerseys.

00:18:42.000 Oh my god.

00:18:44.000 What ever happened to her, man?

00:18:47.000 She's been in a couple films.

00:18:48.000 I saw her in something in the news recently, but I don't know what happened, man.

00:18:53.000 That's a weird world.

00:18:55.000 She peaked.

00:18:57.000 The 80s movie world is a weird world.

00:19:00.000 I'm surprised that people selling press pills haven't put her face on like...

00:19:04.000 A press pill yet.

00:19:06.000 That would sell like wildfire.

00:19:08.000 Anybody out there making press pills in your bathtub put Molly Ringwald's face on them. 1.00

00:19:13.000 I know, right?

00:19:14.000 You would think that would be the one.

00:19:15.000 I think people forgot about her.

00:19:18.000 People forgot about Molly.

00:19:19.000 They forgot about Hov.

00:19:20.000 You should sell those.

00:19:22.000 You should sell those.

00:19:23.000 I forgot about Hove.

00:19:24.000 Yeah.

00:19:25.000 You know what?

00:19:25.000 This is for the love.

00:19:26.000 I'm only giving them to friends, like you.

00:19:28.000 You get a Molly with a jersey.

00:19:29.000 I get a Molly?

00:19:29.000 Oh, I'll wear it.

00:19:29.000 Yeah, it's in the trunk.

00:19:31.000 Is it?

00:19:31.000 I have one left, for real.

00:19:32.000 Oh my God, what size?

00:19:33.000 Because I'm pretty swole.

00:19:33.000 You are fucking swole.

00:19:35.000 You might be too swole for the jersey hanging up on the wall, man. 1.00

00:19:38.000 Dude, I'll wear it.

00:19:39.000 I'll stretch it out.

00:19:40.000 I don't give a fuck.

00:19:41.000 You make it a Jamaican tank top. 0.99

00:19:43.000 Yeah, I'll make it something I only wear at the gym for the gun show.

00:19:48.000 I like it.

00:19:49.000 So you're doing that three times a week, you're playing basketball.

00:19:52.000 That's dedication.

00:19:53.000 I would think that alone, all that activity, that would be a great way to lose weight.

00:19:58.000 Yeah, my Fitbit says I'm doing work.

00:20:00.000 It's great.

00:20:00.000 The Fitbit and the scale disagree though.

00:20:03.000 Well, it's the food then.

00:20:04.000 It's definitely the food.

00:20:05.000 It's food.

00:20:06.000 That's my job.

00:20:07.000 But you make delicious shit.

00:20:09.000 How hard is it when you make delicious shit to eat non-delicious shit?

00:20:14.000 That's a problem because it's almost like, imagine for a guy like me as a comic.

00:20:20.000 What if I was a comic but the only way to be healthy was to listen to shitty jokes?

00:20:25.000 That's kind of like what's going on.

00:20:27.000 Yeah.

00:20:27.000 Because you describe yourself as a sandwich artist.

00:20:30.000 Yes.

00:20:31.000 But ultimately what you are is...

00:20:34.000 The illest Subway employee of all time.

00:20:38.000 It's...

00:20:38.000 Well, there's a lot of Jared jokes in there, but we're going to keep moving.

00:20:42.000 But you're making delicious art, you know?

00:20:47.000 And then you're eating styrofoam.

00:20:50.000 You know?

00:20:51.000 Yes.

00:20:51.000 My problem also is I make fire, I eat it, but then later on at night, even if I'm not making it, I will eat anything.

00:21:00.000 You put anything in front of it, I'm going to eat it.

00:21:03.000 So you're a late night dude.

00:21:04.000 Late night is where I really do the damage.

00:21:06.000 And then the booze too.

00:21:08.000 The booze is a problem.

00:21:09.000 But I've been drinking less, drinking less, just smoking weed, you know.

00:21:15.000 I think I'm going to get there.

00:21:16.000 Next time I come in here, I'm going to be buff patty in here. 1.00

00:21:19.000 Oh, where's the beach?

00:21:22.000 Bam! 0.98

00:21:24.000 So...

00:21:25.000 If you just cut out carbs, you can still eat delicious shit.

00:21:30.000 That's the beautiful thing about trying to get into a ketogenic diet.

00:21:34.000 There's delicious steaks you can eat.

00:21:36.000 You can eat some sweet potatoes.

00:21:39.000 Oh, you can eat sweet potatoes?

00:21:40.000 Yeah, just don't eat too much.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, fiber.

00:21:43.000 But just don't eat too much.

00:21:44.000 The whole idea is to take in as little sugar as possible and have your body start operating off of fats.

00:21:51.000 What else is a good fiber to eat besides sweet potato?

00:21:53.000 What do you do for your cravings?

00:21:54.000 That's what's killing me.

00:21:57.000 Discipline.

00:21:57.000 That's what I do.

00:21:58.000 Fuck.

00:21:58.000 This stuff is called ketogenics.

00:22:02.000 I'm not samurai.

00:22:02.000 These are exogenous ketones.

00:22:06.000 These are all minerals and amino acids.

00:22:08.000 And I add these to water.

00:22:10.000 And what they do is they put your body in a state of ketosis pretty rapidly.

00:22:14.000 Wait, this can put you in ketosis by itself.

00:22:16.000 Yeah, that shit can put you in ketosis.

00:22:18.000 So somebody was telling me this, right?

00:22:19.000 They're like, if you don't eat carbs, then your body creates ketodes.

00:22:23.000 Exactly.

00:22:24.000 And then it starts to eat your fat.

00:22:25.000 Exactly.

00:22:26.000 And I was like, can I just fucking do a line of fucking ketodes, though?

00:22:29.000 Like, why can't you just put these fuckers in your body and it starts attacking your fat?

00:22:33.000 Because that's what this does?

00:22:34.000 Yes.

00:22:35.000 Well, what that does is, those are exogenous ketones, and ketones is what your body burns off, and it's not burning off carbohydrates.

00:22:43.000 There's a couple of benefits to it, and I'm not a scientist, and I'm not that smart, so I'm going to butcher this.

00:22:48.000 But essentially, one of the biggest benefits is that when your body's eating carbs all the time, your body feeds off carbs, For me, at least, what I would do is I'd have these big peaks and then these crashes.

00:23:01.000 Like, I would eat, and then after I ate, I was like a bear that got shot with a tranquilizer dart.

00:23:06.000 I'd be like...

00:23:06.000 You see those bears that are collaring?

00:23:10.000 That would be me.

00:23:12.000 It would crash hard, man.

00:23:14.000 Hard.

00:23:15.000 And then, also, after I ate, about five hours later, I'd be fucking starving.

00:23:20.000 Where my body had processed all the food, and then I'd hit this place like, fuck, I gotta eat.

00:23:25.000 I don't get there anymore.

00:23:27.000 I don't get there to that...

00:23:29.000 I gotta eat thing.

00:23:30.000 Like, I can go 10, 12, 14 hours without eating, and I'm fine.

00:23:33.000 I might be a little hungry, but I feel good.

00:23:36.000 Sick.

00:23:36.000 Like, I've worked out after 16 hours of not eating and be fine.

00:23:39.000 Like, what I'll do is I'll go to bed, like, early at night, and I'll work out at noon with nothing, eat nothing in between that time, and work out at noon and be fine.

00:23:48.000 Bro, we sound like the girls I knew in high school, though.

00:23:51.000 I could go 16 hours without eating!

00:23:53.000 Oh, girls that are throwing up. 1.00

00:23:54.000 I love it, I love it, I love it.

00:23:56.000 Yo, but this is also Al Bundy's favorite flavor, natural orange.

00:24:01.000 Remember when he made the tang, which is?

00:24:03.000 If you eat an orange that tastes anything like this dog shit, throw that fucking thing in the garbage immediately.

00:24:07.000 So this would defeat the purpose of Cagenix, though, if I did the Bundy and I made, like, a tang sandwich with the Cagenix powder.

00:24:14.000 Exactly.

00:24:14.000 Yeah, you don't want to do that.

00:24:16.000 But I do love this stuff.

00:24:18.000 I put this stuff in water, and I mix it up, and I drink it all the time.

00:24:23.000 It's a little sloppy.

00:24:25.000 This envelope's a little sloppy.

00:24:26.000 I need to come up with a good sort of a funnel to get in there. 0.83

00:24:32.000 But what I do is I just kind of shake it in slow.

00:24:34.000 Yeah, you're smart, man.

00:24:35.000 You're doing a little one.

00:24:36.000 What I do is I make a little hole and I just put that little hole over the water bottle.

00:24:42.000 You probably should use an actual glass of water.

00:24:46.000 Oh, this isn't enough water?

00:24:49.000 No, it's fine.

00:24:50.000 It's good.

00:24:50.000 I mean, it's just going to be real strong.

00:24:52.000 But I'm just saying if you had a glass, then you can mix that bitch up solid. 1.00

00:24:56.000 Like this Joe Rogan glass here?

00:24:58.000 Yeah, right for you, bitch. 1.00

00:24:58.000 Oh, what's up? 1.00

00:25:00.000 Plus, I like the idea of you drinking in my face.

00:25:03.000 Yeah.

00:25:04.000 Drinking a mug of my face.

00:25:07.000 So, um, how long have you been trying to do this?

00:25:10.000 Be healthy in, uh...

00:25:11.000 34 years.

00:25:14.000 It hasn't really worked.

00:25:16.000 You just gotta write down that you don't allow yourself to drink at night.

00:25:20.000 Or allow yourself to eat shitty food at night.

00:25:23.000 If you could just do that...

00:25:24.000 Yeah, I started keeping it out of the crib.

00:25:25.000 And then the good thing is...

00:25:26.000 You know how LA really helps fat people?

00:25:29.000 Is there's no bodegas.

00:25:30.000 See, in New York, it's like...

00:25:32.000 You could just walk downstairs and be fat.

00:25:34.000 And eat anything you want.

00:25:35.000 And I miss bodegas.

00:25:36.000 That was the big thing.

00:25:37.000 But in LA, they've taken the bodegas away.

00:25:41.000 Yeah, New York City.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, New York City has a lot of weird spots where you can just show up.

00:25:46.000 Well, New York City has restaurants that are open 24 hours a day that are really good.

00:25:49.000 Yeah.

00:25:50.000 That's crazy.

00:25:50.000 Incredible.

00:25:51.000 LA has a few, but they're super ethnic.

00:25:53.000 Like, you can go to Thai town and you can get some late night Thai food.

00:25:56.000 What's wrong with fucking ethnic, Joe? 1.00

00:25:57.000 Love it.

00:25:57.000 I'm kidding, man.

00:25:59.000 There's some fucking badass Thai food that's open up in LA. Yeah.

00:26:03.000 If you take...

00:26:06.000 Hollywood or Sunset?

00:26:08.000 Hollywood.

00:26:09.000 If you take Hollywood down and keep going east, there's...

00:26:13.000 Oh, bro, that is not orange.

00:26:14.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:26:16.000 Right?

00:26:16.000 Someone needs to go to jail for lying.

00:26:18.000 Oof.

00:26:19.000 Call that orange.

00:26:19.000 So Hollywood and Sunset, you go out there...

00:26:22.000 Yeah.

00:26:22.000 Well, take Hollywood east of Highland.

00:26:27.000 Keep going.

00:26:28.000 And on the right-hand side, maybe like four or five miles, there's like a whole Thai area.

00:26:34.000 You'll go through these areas where it's maybe like 20 or 30 Thai restaurants in a row down there, and there's one place that's open.

00:26:43.000 I'll take you down there, man, if you want to go.

00:26:44.000 I'm down.

00:26:45.000 There's one place that's open late at night.

00:26:46.000 I used to go with my buddy Rob Kamen, world kickboxing champion, and he took me down to that place after training one night.

00:26:53.000 It's fantastic, and it's open until like 2, 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:26:56.000 What's the name?

00:26:57.000 I don't remember the name of the place, because it's like some funky name.

00:27:00.000 Yeah, I've been going to Thai town to this spot.

00:27:02.000 Sop Coffee Shop is good, but they're not 24 hours.

00:27:04.000 They're good, though.

00:27:05.000 Thai coffee's hilarious, because, I mean, why don't you just shoot sugar into my veins with a needle? 0.68

00:27:11.000 Yeah.

00:27:11.000 You know, like Thai iced tea and Thai iced coffee.

00:27:14.000 That stuff is...

00:27:15.000 It's insane.

00:27:15.000 They put sugar and condensed milk.

00:27:17.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 Like one wasn't enough.

00:27:18.000 Yeah, it's double sugared up.

00:27:20.000 But it's so yummy, right?

00:27:21.000 When someone does the organic Thai spot or whatever, it's going to be sugar, condensed milk, and agave.

00:27:27.000 That's what they're going to do.

00:27:28.000 Agave's supposed to be super bad for you.

00:27:30.000 Oh, yeah?

00:27:31.000 Yeah, everybody thinks that agave is like, it's all natural, man.

00:27:34.000 It's agave.

00:27:36.000 Agave is really good.

00:27:37.000 Agave is apparently converted into your body just like sugar, just like cane sugar.

00:27:43.000 I never thought it could be too great for you, too, though, because it looks like it's made from the same thing they make tequila from.

00:27:53.000 Tequila bad for you?

00:27:56.000 Could be good.

00:27:57.000 Could be good.

00:27:58.000 Depends on who you're with.

00:27:59.000 Long term, bad.

00:27:59.000 Short term, incredible.

00:28:01.000 It's a trade-off.

00:28:03.000 Again, depends on the company you keep.

00:28:07.000 So this stuff, exogenous ketones.

00:28:10.000 This is the way to go.

00:28:13.000 It's a good little pick-me-up in between meals, too.

00:28:16.000 I feel hot.

00:28:17.000 Do you?

00:28:19.000 Hot like sexy?

00:28:20.000 Yeah, real fucking sexy.

00:28:21.000 Like thin?

00:28:21.000 Like real skinny?

00:28:22.000 Yeah.

00:28:23.000 Real fucking hot boy over here.

00:28:25.000 The skinny look.

00:28:27.000 Yeah.

00:28:27.000 It's coming back.

00:28:29.000 Bring it back.

00:28:30.000 Mine's mainly for basketball, man.

00:28:32.000 But also, I've been a human panda for a while.

00:28:34.000 I'd like to be a human red panda.

00:28:35.000 They're a little more athletic and agile.

00:28:37.000 Red pandas?

00:28:37.000 Yeah, I see them in trees and shit.

00:28:38.000 Oh, they climb.

00:28:39.000 I'm kind of jealous.

00:28:40.000 You know, I'm like the fat fucking panda stuck to the floor.

00:28:43.000 Do you have a trainer?

00:28:44.000 Yeah, I do.

00:28:45.000 Really?

00:28:45.000 I do.

00:28:45.000 I've been training with this dude, Justin.

00:28:47.000 He's good.

00:28:48.000 Okay.

00:28:48.000 Yeah.

00:28:49.000 He started this gym called Lit Method.

00:28:51.000 It's been pretty good.

00:28:52.000 I'm going there.

00:28:53.000 What kind of shit do you do?

00:28:54.000 Well, like I said, isometrics, plyometrics, and then sometimes I'll do weights and then I play ball.

00:28:59.000 So that's kind of like the four things I do.

00:29:01.000 You ever fuck with kettlebells?

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 Yeah.

00:29:03.000 Kettlebells are good.

00:29:04.000 I do the kettlebell swings and shit like that and then step-ups with kettlebells.

00:29:08.000 Right.

00:29:09.000 Yeah.

00:29:09.000 I like kettlebells.

00:29:10.000 I feel like you got to get to a level of buffness for kettlebells, but I do it.

00:29:14.000 No, you can start with light ones.

00:29:15.000 Yeah.

00:29:16.000 Yeah.

00:29:17.000 There's this interesting podcast that I've been listening to with this guy, Pavel Tatsulin.

00:29:22.000 He's sort of the guy who brought kettlebells to America.

00:29:25.000 And he's on Tim Ferriss' podcast.

00:29:27.000 I want to say number 55 or 155. Yeah, I just found it last night after you told me about it.

00:29:33.000 It's back in this catalog, but it's around around 50. 55, right?

00:29:37.000 Yeah.

00:29:38.000 His two podcasts in a row.

00:29:40.000 And he talks about the correct way to do kettlebells and the correct way to strength train.

00:29:46.000 And one of the things that he's saying is you should never do more than five repetitions.

00:29:51.000 You should, like, say if you can lift something, if you have a hundred pounds, you can lift a hundred pounds nine times.

00:29:56.000 You shouldn't do it nine times.

00:29:57.000 You should do it five.

00:29:58.000 Do it five, then put it down.

00:30:00.000 Don't go to failure.

00:30:01.000 And the idea is the body's not designed to go to failure.

00:30:04.000 The idea that going to failure all the time, you think, like, we have this idea in our head, and I'm guilty of it more than anybody, is that more is better.

00:30:10.000 You know, I'm gonna fucking work harder than everybody else, and that's what's gonna do it.

00:30:14.000 Well, that's not really the right way to do it when it comes to the human body.

00:30:17.000 Because even though your mind can push your body to extreme limits, Oftentimes you get better results by not pushing your body to extreme limits, by pushing your body intelligently, allowing your body sufficient time to recover, and then doing it again.

00:30:31.000 And then doing it more often, but with less repetitions.

00:30:34.000 So this is the thing.

00:30:36.000 I've been joking around like, oh, I would lose weight, but there's that.

00:30:39.000 It's true.

00:30:39.000 I want to do it for basketball, but the thing I love about working out and basketball is it teaches you shit like this, right?

00:30:45.000 Because I think everything in the universe has the same principles.

00:30:48.000 Do you know what I mean?

00:30:49.000 Like, if you're cooking, more is not always better.

00:30:52.000 Right.

00:30:52.000 If you're making music, more is not always better.

00:30:55.000 Right.

00:30:55.000 Like, putting more things into a beat.

00:30:57.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 Like, you need negative space.

00:30:59.000 Right.

00:30:59.000 Things need space, time to breathe, and then so does the human body.

00:31:03.000 And so I agree.

00:31:03.000 I don't do, like, exercises to fail.

00:31:06.000 I do them, and my trainer's pretty good.

00:31:09.000 Like, we'll go in and we'll do, like, 18 different exercises, and we switch each time.

00:31:12.000 Right.

00:31:12.000 It's not, like, sets of three and going, increasing in weight.

00:31:15.000 You've seen, I'm sure you've seen this, Jiro Dreams of Sushi.

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:19.000 Amazing, right?

00:31:20.000 One of the things that I love about that is the simplicity of this guy's methods.

00:31:24.000 I mean, if you haven't seen that documentary, man, I was so skeptical.

00:31:28.000 I'm like, I'm not watching a fucking documentary about a dude who makes sushi.

00:31:31.000 Like, how fucking hard is it to make sushi?

00:31:32.000 Cut the fish, shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:31:34.000 How hard is that?

00:31:34.000 It's hard as fuck.

00:31:35.000 It's hard as fuck.

00:31:39.000 But the methods that this guy employs, like, you would think...

00:31:43.000 How hard is it to do?

00:31:45.000 Well, it's not necessarily that it's hard, but there's a right way to do it.

00:31:49.000 He's figured out, like, do you add this amount of this or that amount of this?

00:31:53.000 Do you let it sit for six hours?

00:31:55.000 Do you let it sit for 12 hours?

00:31:57.000 And he's nailed it and got it down to a science.

00:31:59.000 But if you did anything more than what he's doing, it would actually be less.

00:32:03.000 Like a nice piece of seared ahi, for example.

00:32:07.000 How hard is that?

00:32:07.000 It's not hard at all.

00:32:08.000 You get a fresh piece of ahi, you sear it, but goddamn when it's done right, it tastes good.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, every culture is similar.

00:32:15.000 You go eat the original food, the traditional food, authentic.

00:32:18.000 I went to Sicily, it's just red tuna, Sicilian red tuna, on a griddle.

00:32:24.000 The best restaurant I went to in Sicily, I was doing tuna on the griddle, low heat, with olive oil, and it was just salt.

00:32:31.000 And it was the best piece of seared tuna I ever had.

00:32:34.000 Wow.

00:32:34.000 Yeah.

00:32:36.000 We went to Piccolo Napoli on the Sicily episode.

00:32:39.000 It was good.

00:32:39.000 They're big on seafood, right?

00:32:41.000 Sicily's huge on seafood.

00:32:41.000 Sicily's incredible on seafood, and they're very smart because they don't add much to it.

00:32:45.000 They just use their olive oil, that low heat, sear, real nice, take their time.

00:32:49.000 It's incredible.

00:32:50.000 Well, I think that...

00:32:52.000 Minimalism, in a lot of ways, even in music.

00:32:56.000 Sometimes you listen to an acoustic song, just a dude and a guitar, a woman and a guitar, and it's the best song you've ever heard, for that moment.

00:33:03.000 I mean, if there was one more piece of fishing equipment on this shirt, it'd fucking suck.

00:33:07.000 Right.

00:33:07.000 It'd be terrible.

00:33:08.000 Extra nets.

00:33:09.000 There's just enough fishing equipment on this shirt.

00:33:12.000 You love that shirt, dude.

00:33:14.000 I do.

00:33:15.000 It all comes back to the shirt.

00:33:19.000 Tell me about your new Vice show, man.

00:33:21.000 What do you got going on?

00:33:22.000 It's been, you know what, this has been, since I've met you, it's been in the works.

00:33:26.000 Almost, I feel like it's a five year journey.

00:33:28.000 Really?

00:33:29.000 We started this idea, and then we went through it, did it on the internet.

00:33:32.000 You know, eight minute clips, ten minute clips, and we did that for two years.

00:33:36.000 And the last two years I haven't had any episodes out because we've just been grinding and we've been in the lab eight episodes and it took us eight years and I have to give respect you know a lot of people look at say other travel shows or Tony Bourdain and you hear a lot of people pitch things around town in New York Oh,

00:33:56.000 yeah, this is like the new Tony Bourdain or that's the new Tony Bourdain.

00:33:59.000 You know what?

00:34:00.000 We got in the lab and we made an hour-long travel show.

00:34:03.000 It's a similar format and, you know, thing that Tony is doing because he created this format.

00:34:09.000 And I have to pay respect.

00:34:11.000 It's hard as fuck.

00:34:12.000 Well, what Tony did was he was the first guy that ever had a cooking show that I wanted to hang out with.

00:34:16.000 Yes.

00:34:16.000 And Tony is the first one that put a narrative to a cooking show.

00:34:21.000 He gave it a narrative and a story and character.

00:34:24.000 And so...

00:34:25.000 He created this format that a lot of people have followed in his footsteps.

00:34:29.000 But I've always felt like, you know, when I started, people were like, oh, next Tony or whatever.

00:34:34.000 And Tony was really helpful to me in my career and he really supported me.

00:34:38.000 But I was like, you know what?

00:34:39.000 My purpose in life wasn't to be another version of my dad.

00:34:42.000 My dad wanted me to work in his steakhouse when I was a kid and just be like, you own this restaurant after me.

00:34:48.000 And we're going to sell steak.

00:34:49.000 That's what the Wongs do.

00:34:50.000 And I was like, Dad, I don't think that can be the point to my life.

00:34:53.000 It can't be just to emulate you and be like you.

00:34:56.000 And when it came to me doing this Vice stuff, I've been for five years figuring out how to get my voice and my story and the things I care about to translate to tape.

00:35:08.000 And it maybe looked a lot easier than I thought it did, but once you get to it and you start to see what really makes these shows great, you want to honor it, you want to respect it, and you want to work hard.

00:35:19.000 So we took two years to make these eight episodes.

00:35:22.000 Wow.

00:35:23.000 That's a long-ass long time.

00:35:24.000 Well, I think...

00:35:25.000 You know, when you're trying to create a television show, it takes a while for a show to find its legs, right?

00:35:31.000 To figure out what it is.

00:35:32.000 Yeah.

00:35:33.000 With anything, even with a sitcom or a talk show.

00:35:36.000 You know, I mean, I was there for the early days of the Conan O'Brien show.

00:35:39.000 One of my buddies was one of the writers, and I got to see them do it.

00:35:42.000 And I remember being there going, wow, it's going to be interesting to see how this works out.

00:35:46.000 Because this is obviously on Bambi legs right now. 0.79

00:35:49.000 Yeah.

00:35:50.000 It's like a fawn.

00:35:51.000 Yeah.

00:35:52.000 My thing was, I always had the vision and I knew what I wanted to do.

00:35:56.000 So that was part one.

00:35:57.000 Then the last few years have been actually doing it.

00:36:00.000 And then once you do it, the hardest part in this town is convincing other people that they should put it out.

00:36:06.000 Because other people look at it and they're like, oh, well, it's not like Tony and it's not like this show.

00:36:12.000 What is this?

00:36:12.000 And I'm like, it's different.

00:36:13.000 And that's the point.

00:36:14.000 Because I didn't want to go make a show that's like anybody else's.

00:36:18.000 It may be the same time format and you say 44-minute travel show, unstructured reality, whatever.

00:36:24.000 But I was like, this is a new thing.

00:36:26.000 But it took me a long time to get the vision, create it, and then get people to believe in it.

00:36:33.000 Getting people to believe in your shit is, I think, that third step is the hardest part.

00:36:37.000 Well, who did you need to get to believe it?

00:36:39.000 Because you're doing it on Vice, right?

00:36:40.000 Yeah.

00:36:41.000 Shane already believes in you.

00:36:42.000 Shane is the one that gives me the freedom.

00:36:46.000 Shane, Eddie Morady, they're the ones that let me do it.

00:36:48.000 But they're not there every day.

00:36:50.000 There's a showrunner, and there's a producer, and there's all these people in between.

00:36:53.000 Nah, he's too busy out in Fukushima shooting radioactive wolves and shit.

00:36:56.000 That motherfucker. 0.86

00:36:57.000 He's the man.

00:36:58.000 I saw him last night.

00:36:59.000 Shane's the man.

00:37:00.000 And he always gives me the freedom.

00:37:02.000 But it's even the people on your crew getting everybody to buy in and believe.

00:37:06.000 We came back with the footage and these things, it gets in a post and then everybody who gets to watch it in post has an opinion about what this show should be.

00:37:15.000 And I just, I fought and fought and fought all eight of these episodes.

00:37:19.000 Finally, we're going to put them out.

00:37:21.000 And all eight of them are exactly how I feel about the places I visited and the people we met.

00:37:26.000 And my biggest struggle was travel shows, they voice over a lot.

00:37:30.000 There's a lot of voice over and it's almost like these shows are written before people go to these towns and these cities.

00:37:37.000 And what the people say sometimes doesn't matter because the producer or whoever is going has already decided the story he wants to tell.

00:37:44.000 I go out there And we booked the scenes, and the thing that made everybody nervous in pre-production was, I was like, I don't know what these people are gonna say, and we're gonna live with the footage.

00:37:54.000 And they're like, no, you have to have an idea, you have to direct the conversation, we need to write voiceover, and we need to set it up.

00:38:01.000 And I was like, let's just go to these towns, meet these people, and let them tell us about their lives, their cities, their identities, and accept the footage.

00:38:10.000 And I think being honest, accepting footage, not manipulating the footage with a ton of voiceover is the real innovation of our show.

00:38:19.000 It's verite.

00:38:20.000 You see us making the show.

00:38:22.000 So it's never like you're not aware we're making a show.

00:38:25.000 What is the premise of the show?

00:38:28.000 I'm exploring and deconstructing identities through what people eat.

00:38:33.000 You're basically like going through their shit.

00:38:35.000 Like, what's in your poop?

00:38:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:36.000 Fucking red tuna, olive oil, you know?

00:38:38.000 But I'm going through these countries and exploring their history and identity just through what they eat.

00:38:44.000 Because what you eat tells you so much about who you are, your culture, your values, your politics, and your history, and what has happened to your ancestors.

00:38:52.000 Like, where'd you go?

00:38:53.000 Sicily, Istanbul, Hunan, China, Sandong, China, Taiwan, Orlando, Juarez, Mexicali.

00:39:04.000 Damn, you went to Juarez?

00:39:05.000 Yeah, went to Juarez.

00:39:06.000 It was great.

00:39:07.000 People were incredible.

00:39:09.000 It's not scary.

00:39:09.000 You know, I never would oversell it until, you know, it's fucking scary out there.

00:39:14.000 I mean, look, everyone there had a story of somebody in their family being killed or kidnapped or robbed.

00:39:21.000 It's bad.

00:39:22.000 You know?

00:39:22.000 It's bad.

00:39:23.000 But when we went out there, I cannot claim that it was hard or rough for us.

00:39:27.000 We rode bikes through the city.

00:39:29.000 And there's a lot of these kids out there doing things, trying to take back Juarez.

00:39:33.000 So...

00:39:34.000 You may look at like a bike ride through your town here as like some hipster weird yuppie thing.

00:39:39.000 But in Juarez, they're like, we would just love the right to be yuppies.

00:39:44.000 You know, have the freedom to be yuppies in this town.

00:39:46.000 We can't even ride our bikes without a problem here.

00:39:49.000 So we rode bikes with like 50, 60 kids in Juarez just kind of...

00:39:54.000 Civil disobedience trying to take back the streets by riding through them.

00:39:57.000 So is it when you say they would like to be able to ride bikes like it's just because the drug violence?

00:40:02.000 There's a lot of violence.

00:40:03.000 There's a lot of violence people are afraid to go outside and This is one of the symbolic things that the youth out there do is they try to take back the city in the town and By riding through it with bikes.

00:40:15.000 The butter coffee's got you, huh?

00:40:17.000 Yeah.

00:40:17.000 You keep...

00:40:19.000 Yeah, no, the coffee's killing me, but it's great.

00:40:21.000 I mean...

00:40:22.000 So, like, what kind of food, obviously Mexican food, but, like, what kind of food were you getting in Juarez?

00:40:27.000 The best food I had was outside the nightclubs.

00:40:31.000 There was this one little taco stand in Juarez on the main strip that...

00:40:37.000 You know, the Rolling Stones, whoever used to go perform at the main venue in Juarez, after the show, there was this small taco spot.

00:40:45.000 All they do is like El Pastor.

00:40:47.000 You go over there, and that was the best taco I've ever had.

00:40:50.000 What does that stand for, El Pastor?

00:40:52.000 What does that mean in English?

00:40:53.000 It's...

00:40:53.000 The pastor?

00:40:55.000 No.

00:40:56.000 I don't know.

00:40:57.000 I just know you get pineapples, and it's grilled pork, and it's on a spit.

00:41:00.000 And it's incredible.

00:41:01.000 My thing is usually tongue.

00:41:03.000 I like lengua.

00:41:04.000 I like beef tongue tacos.

00:41:05.000 Yeah?

00:41:05.000 But that El Paso or Taco was the best I had.

00:41:08.000 Wow.

00:41:08.000 And the Rolling Stones used to go there?

00:41:10.000 Yeah, after the shows and stuff like that.

00:41:12.000 How long ago were they going to Juarez, Mexico?

00:41:15.000 It's like in the 70s or something?

00:41:16.000 70s.

00:41:17.000 Yeah.

00:41:18.000 And El Paso.

00:41:19.000 They would do the shows in El Paso and then cross over and shit like that.

00:41:22.000 Really?

00:41:23.000 Yeah.

00:41:23.000 They would do shows in El Paso and then go to Mexico for food.

00:41:26.000 Wow.

00:41:26.000 And then they also did them, I believe...

00:41:30.000 I have to catch myself.

00:41:32.000 I have to check the tape.

00:41:33.000 I can't remember if it's they did the shows in El Paso and went to Juarez to party after, or it's they did the show in Juarez and went to the taco stand because they did have a venue next door to this thing.

00:41:42.000 So I think it's some bands did El Paso, came over, some bands did the venue next to the taco spot and went over, but it was a combination.

00:41:48.000 The Rolling Stones, I can't remember if they were El Paso or Juarez, but there were tons of bands in that triangle going back and forth between the border.

00:41:56.000 And people would come across the border to party in Juarez, and it was a thing.

00:41:59.000 Well, it was no big deal back then.

00:42:01.000 That's what's crazy is that when I was a kid, you never heard about violence in Mexico.

00:42:05.000 People would go to Mexico to party.

00:42:06.000 Everybody would go to Acapulco.

00:42:08.000 Yeah, Tijuana.

00:42:08.000 You know, people would go to Tijuana.

00:42:10.000 Tijuana was just fun.

00:42:11.000 I mean, it was crazy.

00:42:12.000 You know, they would all talk about donkey shows and all the crazy shit that you'd go over there and see, but it was never like, don't go to Tijuana because of drug violence.

00:42:20.000 Yeah.

00:42:20.000 That all happened during the Bush administration.

00:42:22.000 Yep.

00:42:24.000 I went to Cancun in like 2002 or something like that for MTV. And MTV did a spring break thing down there.

00:42:34.000 And man, it was fun.

00:42:36.000 It was great.

00:42:37.000 And then within seven or eight years, nobody would go.

00:42:40.000 Yeah.

00:42:41.000 I mean, within seven or eight years, everybody's terrified of going to Mexico.

00:42:44.000 All you heard in the news, and I'm sure a lot of it was exaggerated, and I mean, if it bleeds, it leads, right?

00:42:51.000 If the news is going to show you some shit about Mexico, it's not going to show you al pastor tacos and how great it is on the street.

00:42:56.000 No.

00:42:56.000 The murders are real, but then the thing is, is that we have to remember, in all these towns, you see these murders, you see the gang violence, there's real people living through that shit.

00:43:05.000 There's real people trying to live normal lives, and that's why we did this episode on the border towns in Mexico.

00:43:11.000 We went to Tijuana, Mexicali, and Juarez, and we tried to show the lives that these people are trying to live next to a superpower.

00:43:20.000 Because just by the sheer nature and geography of them living on the border next to a superpower, of course, crime is going to leak into their towns.

00:43:29.000 The dirt's going to be done on their side.

00:43:30.000 The product's going to be sent to our side.

00:43:32.000 And so we tried to capture their lives.

00:43:35.000 That's an example of one episode of the show.

00:43:37.000 Well, the other problem is their economy is completely connected to the United States in a lot of ways.

00:43:44.000 There's plenty of violence in America that we don't even consider.

00:43:48.000 Nobody's scared to go to Chicago.

00:43:50.000 But Chicago is fucked up, man.

00:43:53.000 There's more gun violence in Chicago than almost anywhere in North America.

00:43:57.000 Chicago's terrible right now.

00:43:59.000 Definitely in America, it's the most murders in any city.

00:44:03.000 It's right up there.

00:44:04.000 I think it's Chicago and Detroit.

00:44:05.000 But no one's like, oh my god, we can't go to Chicago.

00:44:07.000 People are like, go to Chicago!

00:44:09.000 Yay! 0.99

00:44:09.000 Let's go to Chicago! 0.99

00:44:12.000 We don't even consider it.

00:44:13.000 Yeah, it's all on the south side.

00:44:14.000 But I mean, that's sort of the same way people have to look at about Mexico, although I do have to tell you this one story.

00:44:20.000 I went to this resort recently in Mexico near Puerto Vallarta, and I was like, wow, this place is so pretty.

00:44:26.000 How is it that Mexico has all this drug violence and all these problems, but there's this beautiful resort, and all these wealthy people go to vacation at this resort, and they have these little golf carts that they give you on the resort to move around the resort.

00:44:39.000 And we took the golf cart, and they're like, you can go into the city if you like.

00:44:42.000 You know, you can take the golf carts anywhere you want.

00:44:44.000 It's like, alright, let's go into the city.

00:44:45.000 So we go into the city, and we went a block from that resort.

00:44:50.000 One block.

00:44:51.000 And we found a fucking small military base with Armored vehicles with dudes sitting on there on machine guns with steel plates in front of them ready to rock at a moment's notice.

00:45:03.000 So that's how they keep these wealthy people protected.

00:45:08.000 I was like, wow, this is a wake-up call right here.

00:45:10.000 And that's the thing that our leaders never do a good job of.

00:45:14.000 That violence on the South Side of Chicago, that should affect all Americans, but it doesn't.

00:45:18.000 And until it affects somebody who doesn't live in the South Side, and the murder accidentally bleeds into the wrong neighborhood on the North Side, nobody really cares.

00:45:27.000 Nobody pays attention.

00:45:28.000 And that's why we went to Mexico, too, because there's this border.

00:45:31.000 That is a false border.

00:45:33.000 Mother Nature didn't put a border there.

00:45:34.000 We put a fucking border.

00:45:35.000 No, God made that border, son.

00:45:37.000 God made the border between the United States and Mexico.

00:45:40.000 God made it that way.

00:45:42.000 God has a plan.

00:45:43.000 Exactly.

00:45:44.000 We are the chosen people.

00:45:45.000 Exactly.

00:45:45.000 And so I just wanted to show, like, hey, man, on the other side of this artificial line, this is what's going on.

00:45:52.000 And just because they're a different color than you or it's a different country, it doesn't mean you shouldn't care about this.

00:45:57.000 This is a human problem.

00:45:58.000 Well, people are so terrified of opening up the borders of Mexico and letting people go back and forth.

00:46:02.000 They're so terrified of the idea, but how many Mexicans are already over here illegally?

00:46:07.000 It doesn't seem to be that much of a problem.

00:46:09.000 I mean, there's plenty of natural-born Americans that are fucking things up just as bad as anybody else.

00:46:14.000 Most of the Mexicans I know are hard-working people that are very friendly.

00:46:18.000 If you go to Mexico, one of the things you find...

00:46:21.000 Like, right away.

00:46:22.000 It's how friendly people are.

00:46:24.000 Mexico's a nice place.

00:46:25.000 It's an incredible place.

00:46:26.000 Super nice.

00:46:27.000 I never felt threatened or anything.

00:46:29.000 And the thing is, is that the world needs more transparency and mobility, right?

00:46:33.000 The thing that I noticed for two years traveling around the globe, going to all these places, Mediterranean, Sicily, where there's the immigration issues, Istanbul, You know, Mexico on the borders.

00:46:44.000 We need transparency because the leaders of this world are drawing lines all around creating divisions that are not there between me and you or Jamie or people in Mexico that I met, you know?

00:46:57.000 And we need to have mobility because it can't just be my dumb luck that I was born in America.

00:47:02.000 Right.

00:47:03.000 And that I'm gonna have a better life because my mom popped a squat here. 0.65

00:47:06.000 Right.

00:47:07.000 You know, it's sad.

00:47:08.000 Like, I go around the world, I'm like, man, if that person was born here, they'd probably be doing a better job than me at what I'm doing.

00:47:13.000 Well, it's eroding.

00:47:14.000 It's eroding slowly, but not quick enough.

00:47:17.000 Not quick enough.

00:47:18.000 You know, what used to be a necessity, like, we had to keep our tribe away from invading tribes because we couldn't communicate with them. 0.91

00:47:24.000 We didn't know their language.

00:47:26.000 People came from some other land to try to take our resources. 0.85

00:47:29.000 We had to protect it.

00:47:30.000 They would come over in boats and they'd rape and pillage. 0.99

00:47:32.000 That's not really the case anymore.

00:47:34.000 So this necessity of having these borders and especially in 2016 having it where you can't go back and forth.

00:47:41.000 You can't even cross into lands unless you have the right papers and you definitely can't work here because you'd be taking our jobs.

00:47:48.000 Yeah.

00:47:48.000 We're taking our jobs.

00:47:50.000 There's plenty in the world, man.

00:47:51.000 Like people, and the 1% got to get better at sharing too, you know?

00:47:55.000 Because there's people in the world that just sit on piles of shit, and it's not in the economy, it's not in the ecosystem.

00:48:01.000 White people. 0.69

00:48:01.000 Say white people, is that what you're saying? 0.69

00:48:03.000 There's Middle Eastern, there's Chinese too.

00:48:06.000 There's a lot of Chinese people sitting on piles of shit that's not moving. 1.00

00:48:09.000 Yeah, well, that's...

00:48:10.000 Yeah, well, stockpiling wealth is a weird thing, right?

00:48:13.000 When people get to this point where they just constantly...

00:48:15.000 Well, if you have billions and billions of dollars, but yet you're still involved and constantly trying to accumulate wealth, that's a little weird, too.

00:48:22.000 I wanted to run this idea by you.

00:48:23.000 Please do.

00:48:23.000 Because I listen to the show, and I love the ideas you bring up.

00:48:26.000 I'm convinced, and I wish there was a politician that was promoting this, but I think there should be a salary cap on the world.

00:48:33.000 A salary cap.

00:48:34.000 A salary cap.

00:48:35.000 Because you put it in sports and it works, right?

00:48:37.000 But think about it.

00:48:39.000 Would you ever need more than $500 million?

00:48:41.000 Me?

00:48:42.000 Yeah.

00:48:42.000 I've got plans, dude.

00:48:44.000 Come on.

00:48:44.000 For real.

00:48:45.000 I need islands and shit, rocket ships. 0.95

00:48:47.000 I want to go to the moon.

00:48:49.000 I feel like you could go to the moon for under $500 million.

00:48:51.000 I guarantee you can't.

00:48:53.000 Isn't there that one dude, the Backstreet Boy, Lance Bass, who went to the moon?

00:48:58.000 He's going to go to the moon on a big dick.

00:49:00.000 Come on.

00:49:00.000 That's what he's going to do.

00:49:02.000 Okay, so you would need more than 500 mil?

00:49:05.000 I don't know.

00:49:06.000 No, not in real life.

00:49:08.000 Not if I'm being serious.

00:49:09.000 Do you know how much money would get put back into the market and would be distributed if you just set a salary cap at 500 mil?

00:49:18.000 That would break up so much money.

00:49:20.000 It's interesting, but someone who makes more than $500 million could take that money and start a gigantic business and hire hundreds of millions of people.

00:49:29.000 Did you just promote Reaganomics, Broke?

00:49:33.000 Trickle-down economics is real.

00:49:36.000 Just like God had us born here in America, God also made it so you don't have a salary cap.

00:49:42.000 It's interesting, but if you play Monopoly, which is what everybody's doing, right?

00:49:48.000 There's a game.

00:49:49.000 Funny money.

00:49:49.000 What's a game?

00:49:50.000 I mean, capitalism in a lot of ways is a lot like a game.

00:49:53.000 You're trying to accumulate.

00:49:55.000 And some people are more dedicated to that game, and they try to accumulate constantly.

00:50:00.000 I mean, if I was more dedicated to just doing the things that I do, if I was more dedicated in a capitalist sense, I would accumulate more money.

00:50:09.000 But...

00:50:10.000 My personal belief is that it would fuck with me creatively because it would take away resources that I use for other things.

00:50:16.000 It would fuck with the way I do the podcast.

00:50:19.000 If you only think about how much money you can make, there's certain things you wouldn't say, there's certain ways you wouldn't speak.

00:50:24.000 And the irony in my business is that would ultimately cost me money because my product would suffer.

00:50:30.000 So I think in a lot of ways the game of capitalism itself, just calling it a game, It's very problematic if you have a cap on how much money you can make in that game.

00:50:44.000 Because there's always going to be these outliers, these Michael Jordans of sport that take things to the fucking nth level and go deep and want to make as much money as they possibly can.

00:50:52.000 And I don't necessarily think that that's bad.

00:50:55.000 I think you should have the freedom to be fucking crazy.

00:50:57.000 You should have the freedom.

00:50:59.000 If you want to be the first guy that makes a hundred billion dollars, you should have the freedom to do that.

00:51:03.000 But As a human being who makes that much money, you also should have an understanding of what kind of an impact you can have on other people with that money.

00:51:14.000 From your own personal perspective, you can take that money and invest it in different communities.

00:51:19.000 You can start programs.

00:51:20.000 You could give people scholarships.

00:51:22.000 You could do all this amazing stuff with that money that you wouldn't be able to do if somebody put a cap and said you can only make 500 million bucks.

00:51:28.000 But here's the way I see money, right?

00:51:30.000 Money is something we've created.

00:51:33.000 Money is a man-made creation.

00:51:34.000 This idea of money is to attach value to things.

00:51:37.000 That's what money is.

00:51:38.000 So the game isn't making money.

00:51:41.000 Money is like an award.

00:51:42.000 So it's like if a movie director was like, yes, I make movies to win Oscars.

00:51:47.000 That's not what the game is.

00:51:48.000 It should be to make a great film.

00:51:50.000 It should be to live a good life.

00:51:51.000 And we reward you along the way because if you do things that are of value to a society, we pay you.

00:51:57.000 Right.

00:51:57.000 You know?

00:51:57.000 But...

00:51:58.000 The game is basketball.

00:52:00.000 The game is football.

00:52:01.000 The game is movies.

00:52:02.000 The game is podcasting or truth telling.

00:52:04.000 It's not making money.

00:52:06.000 And that's where I think human beings and society have lost their way because now it's just about winning the award.

00:52:13.000 It's not about doing the work.

00:52:14.000 Right, but where's that money go, though?

00:52:15.000 Here's the problem.

00:52:16.000 Here's the problem.

00:52:17.000 Say if you say Eddie Wong could only make $500 million a year, but all of a sudden, you're balling!

00:52:22.000 And you hit that ceiling.

00:52:24.000 Tink, tink, tink.

00:52:25.000 You're just slamming up against that ceiling every year, and you're like, you know what, man?

00:52:28.000 I would have made $3 billion this year, but...

00:52:31.000 I only made 500 million because there's a fucking cap on this bitch. 1.00

00:52:35.000 I could have taken that money.

00:52:36.000 I could have invested it in communities.

00:52:37.000 I could have started all these centers for young kids and helped them out.

00:52:42.000 But that's the thing.

00:52:42.000 The people I know, and let's say you had 500 million you couldn't make anymore, I bet you'd still do this podcast.

00:52:48.000 I bet you'd still be working out.

00:52:49.000 You'd still be telling jokes.

00:52:50.000 I'd be living on a mountain ranting about the government.

00:52:53.000 Where's the rest of my fucking money?

00:52:54.000 Yeah.

00:52:54.000 And you'd be taping it.

00:52:55.000 But what would you do with the rest of the money?

00:52:57.000 How does it work?

00:52:58.000 Say if you made $3 billion one year, but the cap was at $500 million.

00:53:03.000 So they just cut you off.

00:53:05.000 And all the rest of that money goes where?

00:53:08.000 Yeah, your idea sucks.

00:53:10.000 No, come on, no. 0.81

00:53:11.000 Throw that fucking idea away, son.

00:53:13.000 I have a few answers.

00:53:14.000 Oh, the government?

00:53:14.000 Give it to Bernie Sanders!

00:53:16.000 We're going to redistribute the wealth!

00:53:19.000 No, I think that you have to then find a way to distribute it through nonprofits and things like that.

00:53:25.000 Right, and then you get like Red Cross, where like 80% of the money goes to bullshit.

00:53:30.000 It doesn't even go to the actual people.

00:53:31.000 We would have to build a better infrastructure.

00:53:33.000 We would have to build a better infrastructure for social services and public interest and things like that.

00:53:38.000 Because yes, the non-profit sector, a lot of the times it's super ineffective at remedying the issues that everybody's giving them money for.

00:53:45.000 Well, the problem is that there's so much money involved in red tape and bullshit and employees and overhead and all the different operating costs.

00:53:54.000 When you look at the actual operating costs involved in charities and you compare it to how much money actually goes to the charity that you're sending money to, it's disturbing.

00:54:02.000 It makes people feel sad.

00:54:04.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:54:05.000 I just think that we have to reconfigure our values and how we value things.

00:54:11.000 And we're stuck on this money thing.

00:54:14.000 Like, the human species, we're stuck on money.

00:54:17.000 Well, I think we're stuck on money because a lot of people don't have it.

00:54:20.000 Yeah.

00:54:20.000 And so it's the ultimate thing.

00:54:21.000 And some people have too much of it.

00:54:23.000 Some people do.

00:54:24.000 Like, when you don't have money, like when I was young, and I didn't have any money, man, I remember the first check that I got, I got a big check from Disney.

00:54:31.000 I got a development deal when I was like 24. And all of a sudden, I didn't have to worry about my bills.

00:54:37.000 It was the first time in my life I didn't have to worry about my bills.

00:54:40.000 And I was like, my rent is taken care of this month.

00:54:42.000 I can go out to eat.

00:54:43.000 And I remember it was like a physical feeling of like, Like a physical feeling of relaxation.

00:54:49.000 Like now, all of a sudden, the overhead cloud of debt and worry about my bills had lifted and the sun was shining.

00:54:58.000 And I was like, oh!

00:55:00.000 And I will never forget that feeling.

00:55:03.000 Because that feeling was a revelation as far as like how much stress I was under and most people are under on a daily basis.

00:55:09.000 So because of that stress, what people think about is, man, I got to make money because that is the way to get away from this fucking stress.

00:55:17.000 Yes.

00:55:17.000 Because it becomes this carrot that you never get to eat.

00:55:21.000 A dangling carrot, you know?

00:55:23.000 Money gives you freedom.

00:55:24.000 And my brother Emery's idea with the salary cap thing is he's a bit of a futurist.

00:55:27.000 He's like, yo, I read a lot of these things.

00:55:30.000 Robots can do a lot of our agriculture in the future. 0.58

00:55:33.000 We can have a lot of our processes that require human beings to clock in and clock out and punch buttons to go to robots in the future.

00:55:41.000 Oh, I see what you're trying to do.

00:55:42.000 You're trying to get rid of the American farmer, okay? 0.99

00:55:45.000 And so he says this.

00:55:46.000 He says this, right?

00:55:47.000 And he was like, some people want to play the game, Eddie.

00:55:50.000 He's like, you wake up every day.

00:55:52.000 You want to write.

00:55:52.000 You want to go do something.

00:55:53.000 You want to be productive.

00:55:54.000 He's like, some people, they just want to live.

00:55:56.000 And so after the salary cap, after $500 million, what if that money from those billionaires and one percenters goes into guaranteeing A baseline amount of wealth.

00:56:07.000 Maybe it's $30,000 and it goes to American people who are not making that much money.

00:56:12.000 And it's like, here's 30,000.

00:56:13.000 Here's your bills taken care of.

00:56:14.000 Here's an apartment.

00:56:15.000 Now you have no excuse.

00:56:17.000 You have no excuse.

00:56:18.000 Go do something you care about.

00:56:20.000 Go do something you love.

00:56:21.000 Contribute back to society.

00:56:22.000 Because this wealth that this guy's making is going to guarantee you a baseline amount of living.

00:56:27.000 That would be fire!

00:56:28.000 If you really do like reading YouTube comments, read the comments on how retarded that idea is. 0.97

00:56:33.000 Because people are fucking lazy.

00:56:35.000 They are.

00:56:35.000 And if you give people guaranteed money, they're not going to do shit.

00:56:38.000 They're going to jack off into the street.

00:56:40.000 They're going to take shits on cars as they pass by.

00:56:43.000 They're going to do whatever they- They're doing it anyway, Bill Joe.

00:56:45.000 People are lazy.

00:56:46.000 They're doing it anyway.

00:56:48.000 You remove the incentive to work.

00:56:51.000 Like, if you give people, you're gonna create a welfare world.

00:56:54.000 But if you have robots, right?

00:56:56.000 If you have robots doing this stuff, right?

00:56:58.000 This is my brother's thing, and I'll fight for his idea.

00:57:00.000 If you have robots that can do agriculture, and it's true, there's machines everywhere that are doing things that humans used to do.

00:57:06.000 In the future, we will have machines that can do a lot of the processes humans do.

00:57:10.000 And it's like, why continue to penalize people who just aren't, they don't have the drive and they don't want to do things.

00:57:16.000 It's not penalizing them.

00:57:17.000 They have to pull their own weight.

00:57:19.000 Like the whole reason why there's an incentive to work is because if you work, you earn something.

00:57:25.000 You don't just survive.

00:57:26.000 You earn something and you get to understand that effort Now, people don't have effort equals reward.

00:57:33.000 The government just gives you a reward.

00:57:35.000 Then it becomes, how come I only get $30,000?

00:57:38.000 I can barely get buy on $30,000.

00:57:41.000 When Bill Gates has all this money, I should get $50,000 so I can get a Camaro.

00:57:46.000 But then you're looking at the worst of the worst.

00:57:48.000 Yo, there's a lot of people I know that work for me.

00:57:50.000 No, it's human nature, man.

00:57:51.000 If you take people from scratch and make them entitled from scratch and just have them programmed to think that money comes free and it's coming off, then you have a nation of spoiled kids.

00:58:02.000 You ever seen a spoiled kids that come from rich parents that get everything they want? 0.99

00:58:05.000 You're going to spoil all of them.

00:58:07.000 Let me ask you this.

00:58:08.000 Fundamentally, do you think you can change people?

00:58:09.000 Do you think you can change people?

00:58:11.000 You definitely can change them if you give them $30,000 a year.

00:58:13.000 You're going to make them lazy.

00:58:14.000 You can.

00:58:15.000 You make people lazy, and they didn't earn that money.

00:58:17.000 You can't just give people money for no reason.

00:58:20.000 That doesn't help people contribute.

00:58:22.000 It doesn't make a better society.

00:58:23.000 I just want to secure a baseline shelter, clothing, food, health services.

00:58:28.000 I just want a thin to hurt.

00:58:30.000 Okay, I want wolves in the streets.

00:58:31.000 I want to make it harder.

00:58:33.000 I'm kind of into that.

00:58:33.000 I want people to have to live in the woods for a month out of the year.

00:58:38.000 Yeah.

00:58:39.000 I've just worked with some people where, man, there's these people who work super hard and we can't pay them enough.

00:58:44.000 It's not in the budget.

00:58:45.000 There's not the opportunity.

00:58:46.000 And I'm like, man, I wish I could do more for this guy.

00:58:49.000 Then there's people...

00:58:50.000 Well, what do you mean?

00:58:50.000 Like, what people?

00:58:51.000 This is a very utopian...

00:58:53.000 There's guys that work on the show with me.

00:58:54.000 There's guys and girls that work on the show, APs, things like that.

00:58:57.000 And I'm like, man, you know what?

00:58:58.000 I wish we could pay you more because I think you're doing great work.

00:59:01.000 But the economics of this project and this show...

00:59:05.000 This is what it is.

00:59:06.000 Then I have people who I've worked with on other shows where they just don't show up.

00:59:11.000 They don't show up.

00:59:12.000 They don't work hard.

00:59:12.000 They're just clocking in, clocking out, and they don't care.

00:59:15.000 And I was like, that guy will never change.

00:59:17.000 That guy will never.

00:59:18.000 I will never change that guy.

00:59:19.000 Well, they might.

00:59:19.000 They might, but they would have to have some sort of a life-affirming experience.

00:59:22.000 Like something would have to happen, a near-death experience, a losing a loved one, a revelation, a psychedelic drug experience.

00:59:28.000 Some of my biggest fights, my biggest failures in life, Joe, is me trying to inspire or give motivation to someone who just does not care.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, you can't do that.

00:59:38.000 If you give people $30,000 a year, that's what you're going to get.

00:59:40.000 You're going to get a nation filled with them. 0.68

00:59:42.000 Just go away and don't be a problem.

00:59:43.000 People need incentive.

00:59:44.000 Don't jerk off somewhere, man.

00:59:46.000 They need an incentive.

00:59:47.000 They need something to get them to work.

00:59:49.000 And then in doing that, you create people that...

00:59:52.000 Understanding value, hard work, and discipline.

00:59:55.000 And it's not just about making money.

00:59:57.000 It's also about understanding yourself and knowing that you can accomplish things.

01:00:00.000 And not just accomplish things from a financial standpoint, but accomplish things as far as going on a diet and taking care of your health, pursuing an athletic goal, pursuing a creative goal of finishing a book or writing a manuscript.

01:00:12.000 There's a lot of things that people won't do if you just give them money.

01:00:17.000 I agree.

01:00:23.000 They don't give an effort because they don't have to.

01:00:25.000 There are a lot of those people.

01:00:26.000 But then I meet a lot of people who they just don't have their baseline needs.

01:00:29.000 And there's a part of me that's like, man, I wish I could guarantee baseline needs for these people.

01:00:34.000 Because even if they wanted to work, there isn't an opportunity for them.

01:00:37.000 But baseline needs.

01:00:39.000 In this country, if you look at the amount of people in this country that have baseline need issues and how much money they earn as opposed to the rest of the world, there's a crazy statistic that I've quoted before.

01:00:52.000 If you make more than $34,000 a year, you are in the 1% of the world.

01:00:56.000 The world.

01:00:57.000 The planet Earth.

01:00:58.000 But living in America, you make $30,000.

01:01:01.000 There's some people, man, they can't even pay parking tickets and they end up in jail.

01:01:05.000 And they have jobs and they work and it's fucking hard.

01:01:07.000 Parking tickets get you in jail?

01:01:08.000 Yeah.

01:01:09.000 Really?

01:01:10.000 Yeah, there's a few cases, not a few, there's tons of cases where you don't pay your parking tickets, they pull you over again, late parking tickets, they'll end up putting you in jail.

01:01:20.000 Like there was a case- For how long?

01:01:21.000 I think it was in- I think there was a couple cases in Ferguson, Missouri that people were talking about last year with a woman, a couple people, who did not have the money to pay their parking tickets or traffic violations, and then over time, you can't pay.

01:01:36.000 You end up in jail.

01:01:37.000 And it's a cycle.

01:01:38.000 Well, that's kind of crazy.

01:01:39.000 They should definitely not have people...

01:01:41.000 We could look it up, Jamie.

01:01:42.000 Let's not, but they could definitely...

01:01:44.000 I mean, definitely do better than put people in jail.

01:01:48.000 Parking tickets are fucking ridiculous, first of all.

01:01:50.000 I mean, if there's a violation as far as someone parking in front of a fire hydrant or something like that, that makes sense to me.

01:01:56.000 Or parking in front of a driveway, that kind of shit.

01:01:59.000 But the idea that you're charging people to park on the street is fucking gross anyway.

01:02:05.000 That you have a meter and I have to put money in this meter so I can park my car here.

01:02:09.000 How about fuck you? 1.00

01:02:10.000 These are streets that we're paying for with our taxes, by the way.

01:02:14.000 This is a public street.

01:02:16.000 And the idea that you're gonna just steal money from people because they have to park somewhere.

01:02:20.000 Yeah.

01:02:20.000 It's gross.

01:02:21.000 And not only that, you have this fucking asshole on a bus or this little scooter thing that goes around and gives tickets and marks your tire with chalk to make sure that you've...

01:02:32.000 Not been parking there for more than 90 minutes.

01:02:34.000 I'll give you a ticket for that, too.

01:02:35.000 It's all gross, man.

01:02:37.000 All that shit's gross.

01:02:38.000 Either way, next time I come on, I need to have more fully fleshed out salary cap idea.

01:02:41.000 But I'm telling you, like, I've been thinking about this thing.

01:02:44.000 I like the idea of a salary cap.

01:02:45.000 That's not gonna do it.

01:02:46.000 I mean, there's gotta be ways that are better than that.

01:02:49.000 And the big way is my feeling.

01:02:51.000 I mean, I've discussed this before, but my feeling that...

01:02:56.000 This country has a lot of places, like Baltimore.

01:03:00.000 I had Michael Wood on the podcast before.

01:03:02.000 He's a former police officer from Baltimore who talked about how crazy it is there and how they would find...

01:03:08.000 When he was a cop, they found this manifest from the 1970s.

01:03:13.000 It was a directive of how to engage in different areas and where the crime is and where the drug violence is and where the breaking...

01:03:20.000 And he's like, this was the same...

01:03:23.000 Shit that we were dealing with in the 2000s.

01:03:26.000 He's like, it's the same areas, the same problems, the same exact, like, this is where the drugs are, this is where the crime is.

01:03:34.000 It was the same thing.

01:03:35.000 He's like, no one fixed it.

01:03:37.000 And when you're stuck in that kind of a cycle, that is where the government should be sending money.

01:03:42.000 We're always sending money to these countries, sending money to Afghanistan and Iraq and trying to rebuild nations.

01:03:48.000 How about rebuild this fucking nation?

01:03:49.000 How about these problems that we have?

01:03:51.000 If we want this country to be stronger, the best way to make a stronger country is to have less losers, right?

01:03:56.000 Now, when you get a shitty hand, if you have two ones, but you have four aces, well, what the fuck, man?

01:04:01.000 Give them one.

01:04:02.000 Well, we have to figure out a way to make the hands that people are dealt with in life far easier to move with.

01:04:10.000 And there's a lot of people that are dealt with a fucking terrible, shitty hand, and we just turn a blind eye towards these terrible, impoverished communities that are fucking filled with crime, and these children that grow up there, by the time they get to be 17 and 18, they've seen so much shit, and the programming in their mind is so...

01:04:29.000 It's so disturbing because everything that they've been involved with, everything they've seen, they've seen loved ones get incarcerated, they've seen people get shot, they've seen crime, they've seen a lack of hope, they've seen police brutality, they've seen all these terrible things.

01:04:43.000 That is what we need to clean up in this country, not keep people from making tons of money.

01:04:48.000 Well, the thing is, alright, if I take the salary cap thing away, my idea is this, though, is I want to guarantee a baseline of living for people in America.

01:04:57.000 But they have to work for that.

01:04:59.000 What if someone just wants to sit there, feed me!

01:05:03.000 Joe, I know a lot of people that want to work and they can't get jobs.

01:05:06.000 Well, that's a different story, though.

01:05:07.000 And also, if you're born in some of those communities, the key word you said is hope.

01:05:11.000 A lot of kids don't have hope.

01:05:13.000 I remember a kid that I used to hustle with.

01:05:15.000 He was a good guy.

01:05:16.000 Hustle?

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 We sold shit outside the cake shop, whatever, right?

01:05:21.000 Weed.

01:05:22.000 I was selling weed, whatever.

01:05:23.000 It's not a big deal.

01:05:24.000 Whatever.

01:05:25.000 Weed, Xanax, selling a few things, all right?

01:05:27.000 And then he also was like a night manager at Target.

01:05:33.000 He's a night manager at Target.

01:05:34.000 He's kind of wasting away.

01:05:36.000 He was like 19, 20 years old.

01:05:38.000 Incredible basketball player.

01:05:39.000 One of the best AAU basketball players I've seen.

01:05:42.000 And he got offers to play at some JUCOs and things like that.

01:05:45.000 And I remember one day, we went up to Harlem to get the work and I was coming back down on the train.

01:05:50.000 I was like, fam, you should sign up.

01:05:53.000 You should go to that JUCO. You should enroll.

01:05:55.000 Like right now, it's July.

01:05:57.000 There's still time.

01:05:58.000 You enroll now.

01:05:58.000 You could be in there for the fall semester and you could play ball.

01:06:01.000 You're 19 years old.

01:06:02.000 Do this, man.

01:06:04.000 And I remember we just passed the stop and he's like, nah, man, it'll never happen.

01:06:08.000 I'm like, why?

01:06:09.000 And he's like, you don't get it, Eddie.

01:06:11.000 Like...

01:06:12.000 The way you are, your parents, like, they've taught you, you have a chance.

01:06:17.000 I don't have a chance.

01:06:18.000 He's like, I've been told my whole life, I don't have a chance.

01:06:20.000 You know, I live with my grandmother.

01:06:22.000 And whether he's right or not, I disagree with him.

01:06:25.000 He does have a chance.

01:06:26.000 But he had psychologically been broken, had no hope, and did not believe he could do anything.

01:06:31.000 And when I saw that, it fundamentally changed me.

01:06:33.000 Because I was like, I'm privileged.

01:06:35.000 I'm privileged because my parents, maybe they beat the crap out of me, maybe they were hard on me, but I never...

01:06:42.000 I never didn't feel like I had a chance if I worked hard.

01:06:45.000 There's a lot of people in this world that just for 20 years they've lived in America and they're like, even if I worked hard, even I see my parents working hard, we just never got the opportunities.

01:06:54.000 Those are people I feel bad for.

01:06:55.000 There's thousands and thousands and thousands of stories of people who grew up in similar environments that didn't have that mindset.

01:07:01.000 That even though they were told they didn't have any hope, they said, I'll show you.

01:07:04.000 I know.

01:07:04.000 And they went out and they made their shit happen and they became rich and successful.

01:07:07.000 Yeah.

01:07:08.000 That guy could have been that.

01:07:09.000 He chose to feel sorry for himself.

01:07:11.000 You were telling him some good things.

01:07:13.000 You were giving him some good advice.

01:07:14.000 He didn't want to listen.

01:07:15.000 And he didn't want to listen and he was telling you, he was consciously aware that he had been programmed to think there was no hope.

01:07:21.000 If that's what he was telling you, that's on him, man.

01:07:24.000 And there's always going to be that.

01:07:25.000 And that is an example for you.

01:07:27.000 Because the people that fail in this weird fucking race that we're all in, or this weird...

01:07:34.000 Yeah.

01:07:54.000 All these things are important.

01:07:56.000 These are important not just for the person that's involved in that situation, but for everyone else observing.

01:08:02.000 Because we learn from each other.

01:08:04.000 We don't just learn by experience.

01:08:05.000 We learn from other people's experiences.

01:08:07.000 And it's very, very important that way.

01:08:09.000 Because we can experience other people's lives just through sheer communication.

01:08:13.000 And it's one of the most beautiful things about social media.

01:08:16.000 Is that we can all share much more information than has ever been possible before.

01:08:21.000 And through that, you can learn, hey, you know who else was told that he would never amount to be shit?

01:08:26.000 Jay-Z. You know who else grew up in a shitty neighborhood?

01:08:30.000 You know, this fucking basketball player, or that MMA fighter, or this stand-up comedian, or that artist.

01:08:36.000 There's a million examples of people who were told they're not going to be shit.

01:08:41.000 Yeah, but you're an exceptional dude, and some of the guys you mentioned, they're exceptional dudes.

01:08:45.000 I agree with every word you said.

01:08:47.000 You're saying everything my parents ever said to me, and I listened, and I fucking did the work.

01:08:51.000 My parents told me, get a job.

01:08:54.000 That's what my parents did.

01:08:55.000 They told me I wasn't funny.

01:08:56.000 They told me fighting is dangerous.

01:08:58.000 They told me all the wrong things, every step of the way.

01:09:00.000 Yeah, my mom still told me a few months ago that I should still open a law firm.

01:09:02.000 She's like, yeah, what you're doing is funny.

01:09:04.000 It's cool.

01:09:04.000 It's okay, but you should do something solid that you can count on.

01:09:07.000 That's hilarious.

01:09:08.000 Yeah, my mom still is not over it. 1.00

01:09:10.000 Yeah, lawyers, they die of being tired.

01:09:13.000 And just unhappy, miserable.

01:09:15.000 You're exhausted, and they just get coke and hookers and shoot themselves. 1.00

01:09:19.000 Can I go to the bathroom?

01:09:20.000 Yeah, fuck yeah, man.

01:09:21.000 Go to the bathroom. 0.98

01:09:21.000 It's a good time, Joe. 0.98

01:09:22.000 Something has hit the internet that I need to show you, I guess.

01:09:26.000 It may or may not be legit, but...

01:09:29.000 I've decided to retire young thanks to the cheese.

01:09:32.000 Catches later.

01:09:33.000 Conor McGregor?

01:09:34.000 Ah, he's trolling.

01:09:34.000 You think so?

01:09:35.000 Fuck yeah.

01:09:36.000 There's a lot of people who have been hitting me up telling me to show you and no one knows what's going on right now.

01:09:41.000 He's decided to retire young, which means like 34. Eventually, young, not today.

01:09:47.000 Listen, man.

01:09:48.000 Unless he got fucking head kicked today and knocked into oblivion.

01:09:53.000 The idea that he's gonna go out on a loss like that to Nate Diaz.

01:09:56.000 Look, he's got plenty of cash.

01:09:58.000 If he wanted to retire young and step away, I mean, I guarantee you he probably made somewhere in the neighborhood of five million bucks for the Jose Alda fight.

01:10:10.000 He probably made more than that for the Nate Diaz fight.

01:10:13.000 I would imagine after he spent a fuckload of it, he's probably still got a few million bucks laying around.

01:10:19.000 He's a hero in Ireland.

01:10:20.000 He could always make money.

01:10:21.000 He could always run a gym and be fine, but if I had to guess...

01:10:26.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:10:27.000 The only reason why it would make sense, the only reason why it would make sense is Conor had actually thought about retiring from MMA before he got the call for the UFC. There was a point in time where he had some friends that were experiencing some serious health issues from fighting and then most recently that young man from the Portuguese guy died in an MMA contest which I think took place in the UK. Wasn't...

01:10:53.000 I don't know.

01:10:54.000 Wasn't he involved or related in some way to one of those guys that just died, too?

01:10:58.000 Didn't he know him or train with him?

01:10:59.000 I think he trained with the Portuguese guy that just died recently.

01:11:02.000 It is entirely possible in that sense, but if I had a guess, there's no way he'd do it like this.

01:11:08.000 And also, I was talking with someone as this was going on.

01:11:11.000 This doesn't even seem like how he usually talks on Twitter, sort of.

01:11:14.000 He could have gotten hacked, maybe, but no one really knows what's going on right now.

01:11:19.000 If that's it...

01:11:20.000 If you got hacked and that's it, that's all they're gonna do?

01:11:23.000 Yeah, no, I mean, it hasn't been deleted yet.

01:11:26.000 No one else has really commented on it.

01:11:28.000 I would call bullshit.

01:11:30.000 But you never know.

01:11:32.000 I just highly doubt it.

01:11:34.000 Stay tuned, folks.

01:11:35.000 I think he's trolling.

01:11:37.000 If I had to guess, I'd say he's trolling and fucking around with people.

01:11:39.000 If he decided, I'm gonna retire young, and then, like I said, like one day or two days later, which means around 34. You know, he's like 28 now.

01:11:48.000 I mean, if he's smart, he will retire young.

01:11:50.000 It's just...

01:11:50.000 There's some dudes that stay in it way too long.

01:11:53.000 They wind up with rattled domes.

01:11:56.000 Gotta get out.

01:11:57.000 I feel slim from this Cagenics already, man. 1.00

01:12:00.000 Do you?

01:12:00.000 You feel better?

01:12:01.000 Felt good.

01:12:02.000 Checked out the keg in the bathroom.

01:12:04.000 It was good.

01:12:04.000 It's like a pony keg now.

01:12:06.000 Do you have a target weight you're trying to get to?

01:12:09.000 Or a body fat number?

01:12:10.000 Yeah, I want to get to like...

01:12:13.000 15, 16% body fat.

01:12:15.000 I'm like 22 right now.

01:12:17.000 22, 23. So you don't have lofty goals.

01:12:20.000 You have reasonable goals.

01:12:21.000 Yeah, reasonable goals.

01:12:21.000 I'm not trying to be like shredded and shit.

01:12:23.000 Why not?

01:12:24.000 I don't know.

01:12:25.000 I kind of like being a dancing bear.

01:12:27.000 Do you like it?

01:12:29.000 Or is it like your 19-year-old friend that was like, you don't understand.

01:12:33.000 There's no hope for me.

01:12:34.000 I could never get shredded.

01:12:35.000 I just need to be a little bit better at basketball.

01:12:37.000 That's it.

01:12:38.000 That's it.

01:12:38.000 You don't want to be shredded?

01:12:39.000 Like if someone gave you a pill, say, Eddie, I have a pill right now with no health consequences whatsoever.

01:12:44.000 I can give you this pill and you will be fucking LeBron James shredded.

01:12:49.000 No, I think part of my identity is being slightly chubby.

01:12:52.000 Part of your identity.

01:12:53.000 And I just become more chubby.

01:12:55.000 I'm pre-diabetic, so I need to just watch that.

01:12:59.000 Sometimes, some years or some six months I go to the doctor, I'm pre-diabetic and other times I'm not.

01:13:03.000 You're pre-diabetic and you're still eating candy at night?

01:13:06.000 18 months ago, I went to the doctor and they were like, you're in the pre-diabetic zone.

01:13:11.000 Then I got out of it, which was good.

01:13:12.000 But it's like, I have to watch it because I'm kind of on the line.

01:13:15.000 And yet you're still eating candy late at night.

01:13:17.000 What the fuck is wrong with you?

01:13:18.000 Got no self-control, man.

01:13:19.000 But then you're thinking everybody should get 30 grand.

01:13:22.000 Do you understand?

01:13:23.000 Discipline is an important part of life.

01:13:25.000 Do you understand this?

01:13:25.000 It is, Joe.

01:13:26.000 This is a very important message.

01:13:27.000 Young Jedi.

01:13:28.000 I'm young Jedi.

01:13:29.000 I gotta get to full Jedi status, man.

01:13:31.000 I gotta work on this.

01:13:32.000 Do you write things down?

01:13:34.000 Do you write things down that you have to do?

01:13:36.000 A lot, yeah.

01:13:37.000 Do you write things down that you just don't do anymore?

01:13:39.000 I won't do this anymore.

01:13:40.000 This is not on the menu anymore.

01:13:42.000 Yeah, I do.

01:13:43.000 And then sometimes I still fucking do them.

01:13:45.000 Well, you can't do that.

01:13:46.000 Yeah.

01:13:46.000 You gotta write things down.

01:13:47.000 That's against the point of writing it down, but yeah.

01:13:50.000 You just gotta give yourself a certain amount.

01:13:52.000 Like, here's a good example.

01:13:53.000 Give yourself 60 days.

01:13:55.000 Say, for 60 days, I'm going to go on a diet where I don't eat any bread, I don't take in any pasta, I don't have any rice.

01:14:02.000 I only eat healthy foods.

01:14:04.000 Everything is healthy or I don't eat it.

01:14:06.000 That's it.

01:14:06.000 The rice is the killer, man.

01:14:08.000 Well, rice is a lot of carbs, you know, and it translates directly in your body to sugar.

01:14:12.000 And also, it's like, it's inflammatory.

01:14:15.000 Yeah.

01:14:16.000 It causes inflammation.

01:14:17.000 You want me to do that Whole30 thing?

01:14:18.000 Somebody told me about the Whole30.

01:14:19.000 What's that?

01:14:19.000 It's like, no processed foods, no dairy, no alcohol, Whole30.

01:14:25.000 Why whole 30?

01:14:26.000 For 30 days?

01:14:27.000 Yeah, it's 30 days and you eat whole foods and shit.

01:14:30.000 Well, I just eat whole foods always now.

01:14:32.000 But I've been doing it for...

01:14:33.000 I got on this Primal Blueprint diet about three months ago.

01:14:37.000 And I said I was going to give myself two months.

01:14:39.000 But after the two months were over, I'm like, this is how I'm eating now.

01:14:43.000 I feel so good.

01:14:44.000 Do you drink?

01:14:45.000 You don't drink?

01:14:45.000 Yeah, I drink.

01:14:45.000 I don't get crazy.

01:14:47.000 But occasionally I do.

01:14:48.000 I believe everything in moderation, including moderation.

01:14:52.000 So, if you're out and you're getting your freak on and someone says you want to do shots, you're like, fuck yeah, let's do this.

01:14:57.000 Get in there, but you don't do it all the time.

01:15:00.000 Every now and then, but understand the consequences, you will get wrecked.

01:15:05.000 I fucking puked Chalmaine on a curb like three weeks ago. 0.85

01:15:08.000 That wasn't awesome.

01:15:09.000 Why'd you do it?

01:15:10.000 Drinking?

01:15:11.000 Drinking.

01:15:12.000 Well, booze is bad, but the feeling is great.

01:15:14.000 I think there's some amazing things that are accomplished when you're under the influence.

01:15:19.000 Incredible things get accomplished.

01:15:20.000 I puked chow mein on a curb. 0.87

01:15:22.000 But as far as social things, you have great fun with your friends that you'll never forget.

01:15:27.000 There's moments of...

01:15:29.000 There's moments during...

01:15:34.000 Alcohol intoxication where you kind of see things for what they are because the the veil that's in front of your mind the veil of inhibition and Struggle and bullshit and insecurity is removed by that alcohol for the most part alcohol makes people a lot of makes a lot of people assholes Because they lose their inhibitions,

01:15:56.000 because they get cocky, because they don't have fear anymore.

01:15:59.000 It distorts reality.

01:16:01.000 Do you get more social or anti-social when you drink?

01:16:04.000 More social.

01:16:05.000 Yeah, me too.

01:16:05.000 I get more social.

01:16:06.000 Well, you're a nice guy.

01:16:07.000 Nice people become more nice.

01:16:09.000 But when someone's an asshole when they're drunk, I usually find that's incredibly revealing of who they're trying not to be when they're sober.

01:16:15.000 Like what they're hiding from you when they're sober.

01:16:17.000 It usually is like revealing of the demons inside of them.

01:16:21.000 Yeah, I just You get goofier.

01:16:22.000 Yeah, I get silly.

01:16:23.000 I want to hug people and shit, and I want to laugh.

01:16:25.000 Yeah, I'm a silly, goofy motherfucker, so that's what happens.

01:16:29.000 Well, I've had friends that are alcoholics, though.

01:16:31.000 It's a weird thing when you look and you see those shark eyes.

01:16:34.000 They're like, oh, Eddie's not there anymore.

01:16:36.000 Clank.

01:16:37.000 I didn't mean to use your name, but Mike's not there anymore.

01:16:41.000 You look right in their eye, and you're like, where'd they go?

01:16:44.000 Angry drunks, too, man.

01:16:45.000 You're like, they're fucking hiding that shit all day.

01:16:48.000 That shit's bad.

01:16:49.000 Yeah, dude.

01:16:49.000 I went on a date with this girl, went on one date, and it was awesome.

01:16:52.000 It was great, had a good time, a lot of fun.

01:16:54.000 I was like, wow, she's pretty cool.

01:16:55.000 Next day, I meet her at the bar.

01:16:57.000 She's already tanked up. 1.00

01:16:58.000 She's breaking glasses, yelling at people. 0.95

01:17:00.000 I was like, what?

01:17:02.000 What the fuck?

01:17:03.000 Just a few drinks.

01:17:05.000 That's all it took.

01:17:06.000 A few drinks, and she went loco. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Did you smash?

01:17:09.000 No, I ran.

01:17:10.000 Oh.

01:17:10.000 I'm not a smacker.

01:17:11.000 She sounds like she could have been incredible, bro.

01:17:14.000 No, I knew...

01:17:14.000 Just breaking records in the bedroom.

01:17:17.000 I knew some people that had been into trouble and I learned from other people's experiences.

01:17:21.000 No, I've never been a fan of drunks, especially girls. 0.99

01:17:24.000 Like, I just feel like if you're on a date with someone, If you date a drug addict or you date an alcoholic or something like that, man, the burden of just getting to know someone, enjoying their company and being even with each other and enjoying each other's company, it's hard enough to figure out if you're compatible with someone socially without this monkey on their back.

01:17:45.000 Someone's got a heroin problem and you're going to date a girl with a heroin problem.

01:17:49.000 I have a buddy, my buddy Brian Callen.

01:17:51.000 He's the best.

01:17:52.000 But he always used to try to clean these girls up. 1.00

01:17:54.000 He used to try to take them in.

01:17:55.000 Captain Save-A-Ha.

01:17:56.000 Oh, he was the worst.

01:17:57.000 He was the worst.

01:17:58.000 I used to tell him, I was like, get out now.

01:18:00.000 And he wouldn't do it.

01:18:01.000 And then two years later, he was like, man, I should have listened to you.

01:18:03.000 Yeah, you should have listened to me.

01:18:04.000 Again!

01:18:05.000 Again!

01:18:06.000 For fucking a decade, I used to tell this guy.

01:18:09.000 If I have the option of dating a heroin addict or not dating a heroin addict, I'm going to go with the no.

01:18:14.000 Yeah.

01:18:14.000 It's a good move.

01:18:15.000 Yeah, but some guys are like, yeah, she's just alone, and she just needs a friend, and you know, once they clean up, I mean, we all make mistakes.

01:18:22.000 They're into it.

01:18:23.000 They're into it.

01:18:23.000 Well, it's also...

01:18:25.000 Here's the reality of Captain Save-A-Hose.

01:18:28.000 When you find someone's problems are greater than your own, it lets you concentrate on things other than your problems, which you are not fixing because you are a lazy fuck.

01:18:37.000 So you procrastinate.

01:18:39.000 And people find really strange ways to procrastinate.

01:18:42.000 And one of the ways they find to procrastinate is to create other problems in their life that take precedent over the problem that they're avoiding.

01:18:50.000 I agree.

01:18:51.000 I agree.

01:18:51.000 I have given the same speech to all people.

01:18:53.000 This is the funny thing.

01:18:54.000 I agree with you on all the personal things.

01:18:55.000 I don't know why my personal views don't translate to my worldviews.

01:18:58.000 It's kind of funny.

01:18:59.000 You mean like the $30,000 thing?

01:19:01.000 I'm a lot softer with my worldviews than I am with people and my brothers and people that work with me.

01:19:05.000 I am too.

01:19:06.000 I believe in a living wage.

01:19:08.000 I'm down with this Bernie Sanders thing, and I love the fact that Governor Cuomo in New York just passed this $15 an hour thing.

01:19:15.000 Minimum wage is going to be $15 an hour.

01:19:16.000 It's so funny.

01:19:17.000 Someone said on my Facebook, you think this is good?

01:19:22.000 This is going to destroy a lot of businesses.

01:19:24.000 I'm like, yeah.

01:19:24.000 You know what they said that about?

01:19:26.000 Slavery.

01:19:27.000 It's the same shit they said about slavery.

01:19:29.000 You abolish slavery, these plantations are going to go under.

01:19:31.000 Well, guess what?

01:19:33.000 You can't just have people work all day for you and not give them any fucking money.

01:19:37.000 And not give them a living wage.

01:19:37.000 Yeah, they have to be able to make a living.

01:19:39.000 And if your business does not make enough money to give someone a living wage to work all week for you, then guess what?

01:19:46.000 You don't have a business.

01:19:46.000 You can't afford to have an employee.

01:19:48.000 So you have to figure out a way to either make more money, you have to figure out a way to get a better business, or operate with less employees.

01:19:55.000 That's it.

01:19:56.000 The only thing that they have to do is they have to help subsidize the small mid-sized businesses to compete with like the Walmarts and the Best Buys and the Targets.

01:20:03.000 Subsidize how?

01:20:05.000 Tax incentives and things like that to the small mid-sized businesses because to absorb this new salaries right now immediately, the big companies have a lot more of a cushion and a margin to absorb this shit.

01:20:16.000 Right.

01:20:16.000 Do you know what I'm saying?

01:20:17.000 Yeah.

01:20:17.000 The small mid-sized, you have to start adjusting the way you're doing business, the prices, things like that.

01:20:24.000 You got to move some pieces around.

01:20:26.000 Listen, I can fix all this shit real quick.

01:20:28.000 Legalize weed.

01:20:30.000 Yeah.

01:20:30.000 Legalize weed worldwide.

01:20:32.000 Everybody would just sell weed.

01:20:34.000 You know how many people who are having a job right now would make a lot of money just selling weed?

01:20:39.000 They would.

01:20:40.000 Yeah.

01:20:40.000 Go to Colorado right now.

01:20:41.000 You know, real estate in Colorado is up like 19%.

01:20:44.000 But you know what's going to happen when they sell weed?

01:20:47.000 It's not going to be like your neighbor or the guy downstairs selling weed.

01:20:50.000 It's going to be big companies and then it's going to be these kids.

01:20:53.000 No, I'm all for legalizing.

01:20:54.000 Why would it be big companies?

01:20:55.000 I want to legalize.

01:20:56.000 They already are.

01:20:57.000 These people are buying up the rights in certain states to be the distributors and things like that.

01:21:01.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:21:01.000 Those are state laws.

01:21:03.000 You can't have those state laws.

01:21:04.000 Those buying up the rights laws.

01:21:06.000 That's what they were trying to pass in Ohio, right, Jamie?

01:21:08.000 And everybody rightfully said no to it.

01:21:10.000 Because this was going to be a monopoly situation.

01:21:12.000 I mean, it should just be, it's legal, go crazy.

01:21:15.000 Yes.

01:21:15.000 Go sell it.

01:21:16.000 Sell it.

01:21:16.000 Like a half-baked.

01:21:17.000 But what's going on in Colorado is it's changing the economy.

01:21:21.000 Colorado, first of all, they made more money from taxes this year for the first time ever than they did from alcohol with weed.

01:21:29.000 More money from weed than with alcohol, which is just fucking bananas.

01:21:32.000 And they charged 39% taxes on weed.

01:21:36.000 And everybody's like, who cares?

01:21:38.000 Who cares?

01:21:39.000 Sell it.

01:21:39.000 It's still cheaper than alcohol, and we'll pay it.

01:21:42.000 And it's better.

01:21:43.000 Exactly.

01:21:44.000 So something like that could change.

01:21:46.000 And also...

01:21:47.000 Look, man, you can't infantilize this entire country like that.

01:21:51.000 You can't tell people what they can and can't do.

01:21:53.000 You just can't do it.

01:21:54.000 And it's a gigantic part.

01:21:57.000 Because we're going to do it anyway.

01:21:57.000 I mean, all these restrictions on behavior and what you can and can't do are a gigantic part of the problem with the fiber of our economy and the fiber of our culture.

01:22:07.000 We've got all these weird restrictions that are in place that are archaic and don't make any sense.

01:22:12.000 And when you accept one thing that doesn't make any sense, well then it leaves room for a lot of other weird shenanigans, like Ted Cruz wanted to lock people up for dildos.

01:22:20.000 You know about all that shit?

01:22:21.000 No.

01:22:21.000 Oh!

01:22:22.000 This dumb motherfucker is really close to being president.

01:22:25.000 Ted Cruz was trying to pass a law that would put you in jail for having dildos.

01:22:31.000 Pull this up, Jamie, because this is just one of the most hilarious things about this dumbass that people are trying to force down the American public's face because the Republican candidates are all a joke other than Donald Trump.

01:22:42.000 No one can get past that guy, and he's a joke.

01:22:44.000 No one can get past that guy, so the Republicans are panicking.

01:22:48.000 They don't know what to do, so they put this fucking Ted Cruz dummy in, not knowing there's a million different things that are wrong with him.

01:22:54.000 The time Ted Cruz defended a ban on dildos, his legal team argued that there was no right to stimulate one's genitals.

01:23:02.000 Scroll up, please.

01:23:03.000 In one chapter of his campaign book, A Time for Truth, Senator Ted Cruz proudly chronicles his day as a Texas Solicitor General, a post that he held from 2003 to 2008. Bolstering his conservative cred, the Republican president candidate notes that during his stint as the state's chief lawyer in front of the Supreme Court and federal state appellate courts,

01:23:23.000 he defended the inclusion of under God in the Pledge of Allegiance, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:23:28.000 Scroll up to the dildo case.

01:23:44.000 And we'll put the thing where he wanted to have how much you should go to jail for it, because it was like two years.

01:23:50.000 Here it is.

01:23:54.000 Under the law, a person who violated the statute could go to jail for up to two years for selling dildos.

01:24:01.000 And this dummy supported that.

01:24:04.000 This is a guy that wants to be president.

01:24:06.000 This is a women's rights issue, Joe. 0.97

01:24:06.000 For dildos? 0.97

01:24:07.000 This is a real women's rights issue. 1.00

01:24:08.000 For dildos? 0.98

01:24:09.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 For dudes, too.

01:24:09.000 Don't be sexist.

01:24:10.000 No, I'm saying, no.

01:24:11.000 But I'm saying, I hope this is one thing that women and men can all come together on.

01:24:15.000 Dildos?

01:24:16.000 So important.

01:24:17.000 It's the most hilarious thing because dicks are available for anybody who needs them.

01:24:21.000 All you have to do is raise your hand, step outside your house, and go, I'm looking for some dick. 1.00

01:24:24.000 Have a sign on the side of the road, looking for dick, and someone will give you dick. 1.00

01:24:28.000 Someone's going to pull up.

01:24:29.000 Yeah.

01:24:29.000 You know those people that stop at red lights and they have signs for change?

01:24:32.000 Yeah.

01:24:33.000 Even that works, okay?

01:24:34.000 People will give you what you need.

01:24:36.000 But if you have a sign that says, I'm looking for dick, and you're reasonably...

01:24:41.000 Clean.

01:24:41.000 Someone's gonna fuck you.

01:24:43.000 Someone will pull up.

01:24:44.000 Yes.

01:24:45.000 Anytime.

01:24:45.000 Any corner.

01:24:46.000 But people have the right to want a dick without a body attached to it. 1.00

01:24:52.000 Yes.

01:24:53.000 A dick without a relationship or opinions.

01:24:56.000 Or even a pulse.

01:24:57.000 Anything to say.

01:24:57.000 You want a dick that's not even made out of human tissue.

01:25:00.000 You want a rubber one.

01:25:01.000 Yeah, let's just fill this hole up.

01:25:04.000 Hard body.

01:25:05.000 Get done.

01:25:06.000 Let's just get it done.

01:25:07.000 But I don't know how I got to that, but our leadership is a joke.

01:25:11.000 But it's a joke because you can't expect a person to want, anybody that wants to run this entire country has got to be a crazy person.

01:25:18.000 You have to be a nut.

01:25:20.000 And you really shouldn't have one president anyway.

01:25:22.000 The idea is ridiculous that one person is going to be involved in all the decisions for the entire country.

01:25:28.000 That's preposterous.

01:25:29.000 The funny thing, too, is people only pay attention to the presidential race when all these other things are going on.

01:25:34.000 Congressional, Senate, things like that.

01:25:35.000 It's hard to fucking keep track of, though.

01:25:36.000 They're all fucking clowns.

01:25:37.000 It's impossible.

01:25:38.000 Honestly, they're all clowns.

01:25:39.000 It's impossible.

01:25:39.000 I don't trust any of them.

01:25:40.000 And what's really fucked up is this is, like, the best spot on the planet.

01:25:43.000 Like, all the other spots, all the different goofballs all over the world.

01:25:47.000 Like, you see what's going on in Brazil?

01:25:49.000 Like, Brazil, they're impeaching their fucking president right now.

01:25:51.000 The Panama Papers shit is crazy.

01:25:53.000 It's crazy.

01:25:54.000 I love it.

01:25:55.000 Crazy.

01:25:55.000 I'm loving it.

01:25:56.000 Tell people about it if they don't know what it is.

01:25:58.000 Well, the Panama Papers is...

01:26:00.000 Because this is not getting discussed in the news hardly at all.

01:26:03.000 It's some, not enough, but it's basically people, leaders of countries, like the British Prime Minister's dad and Brazil, the guy Brazil's involved, but there's people, leaders, presidents, prime ministers have been keeping their money in offshore accounts Not paying the taxes that they owe in their country and keeping this money off the books.

01:26:27.000 And then somebody gave this information from a law firm that does most of these transactions and it's now being published.

01:26:35.000 So you can see where all the money is being hidden.

01:26:37.000 Yeah, and influence.

01:26:39.000 It highlights how people are getting influenced to make certain decisions and how much bribery is taking place.

01:26:44.000 And how laws only apply to certain people.

01:26:46.000 They don't apply to the people making the laws.

01:26:51.000 It's shit.

01:26:52.000 So the best way to fix this is what?

01:26:54.000 Give people $30,000.

01:26:59.000 Yes.

01:27:00.000 That's just going to keep people poor. 1.00

01:27:02.000 That'd be the best way to keep people from competing with you.

01:27:04.000 I'll tell you that.

01:27:05.000 Give them 30 grand.

01:27:06.000 They're not going to do jack shit with it.

01:27:08.000 Kick rocks.

01:27:08.000 Just going to sit around.

01:27:08.000 Kick rocks.

01:27:09.000 Fucking drink OE. Do people drink OE anymore?

01:27:12.000 Old English?

01:27:13.000 No.

01:27:14.000 Remember those?

01:27:15.000 No ketones in them.

01:27:16.000 No ketones in Old English.

01:27:17.000 That stuff will get you fucked up, man.

01:27:19.000 I remember the first time I drank a 40. I couldn't believe how drunk you get.

01:27:24.000 Yo, are you in town this Thursday?

01:27:27.000 Yes.

01:27:28.000 We got a premiere.

01:27:28.000 You want to come?

01:27:29.000 Where's it at?

01:27:30.000 When's it at?

01:27:31.000 Ace Hotel Downtown Theater.

01:27:32.000 What time?

01:27:34.000 What time is it?

01:27:35.000 8 o'clock?

01:27:36.000 Is it what time?

01:27:37.000 Yeah, it's like 7.30, 8 o'clock.

01:27:39.000 Dan Arrowback from the Black Keys gonna be here at 6. I was just at Dan's crib last night.

01:27:43.000 He's at 6?

01:27:44.000 He's coming to the premiere.

01:27:46.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:27:47.000 How are you guys doing the show at 6?

01:27:49.000 This motherfucker's supposed to be at the premiere.

01:27:51.000 This motherfucker's gonna be late.

01:27:53.000 Oh, Dan.

01:27:54.000 Joe says...

01:27:55.000 Don't text while you're on the show.

01:27:59.000 This is not good for everybody that's listening.

01:28:01.000 Sorry, man.

01:28:02.000 We'll talk afterwards.

01:28:03.000 I'm not trying to have bad form.

01:28:05.000 You know this is my favorite podcast.

01:28:06.000 Well, you're one of my favorite guests.

01:28:08.000 Thank you.

01:28:08.000 It takes a long time to get from here to downtown.

01:28:11.000 Yeah.

01:28:12.000 We're in Woodland Hills.

01:28:12.000 It'll take you probably an hour and a half at six.

01:28:19.000 Wow.

01:28:20.000 Yeah.

01:28:20.000 He's coming in at six?

01:28:22.000 Yeah.

01:28:22.000 If you have to leave at six, your shit's at seven, you'd have to leave at six.

01:28:25.000 So when he's here, he would have to leave.

01:28:28.000 You'd have to say hi.

01:28:30.000 Damn, so you took Dan from my party.

01:28:32.000 I had Dan booked for a long time.

01:28:34.000 He probably doesn't know what's going on.

01:28:35.000 He's a rock and roll star, dude.

01:28:36.000 Probably doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

01:28:37.000 He doesn't.

01:28:38.000 He thought he was supposed to be here yesterday.

01:28:40.000 Then he told me he was going to be here today.

01:28:41.000 And I was like, bro, I'm here today.

01:28:42.000 How are you here today?

01:28:43.000 Does he do drugs?

01:28:44.000 No.

01:28:45.000 No?

01:28:45.000 No, he's good.

01:28:45.000 How's that possible?

01:28:46.000 He smokes weed.

01:28:47.000 Okay.

01:28:47.000 I don't want to dry snitch, though.

01:28:49.000 I think that's public, right?

01:28:50.000 Dry snitch? 0.70

01:28:50.000 What is dry snitch? 0.70

01:28:53.000 He brought that up last time here.

01:28:54.000 We had to go over this, I think.

01:28:55.000 It's like basically just living that D'Angelo Russell life.

01:28:59.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:00.000 Who's D'Angelo Russell?

01:29:01.000 He's the guy that fucking recorded Nick Young talking about other girls.

01:29:06.000 Oh, that guy.

01:29:06.000 Oh my god.

01:29:07.000 He lives the dry snitch.

01:29:09.000 He is America's dry snitch.

01:29:11.000 Has he been ostracized by the rest of the basketball community?

01:29:15.000 Yeah, I think the world...

01:29:17.000 He said he didn't mean to let it get out, right?

01:29:20.000 Isn't that his words?

01:29:21.000 He needs to be on the JRE. You need to fucking grill him about this.

01:29:24.000 Not interested.

01:29:25.000 I would love to see you grill him.

01:29:27.000 Get to the court.

01:29:29.000 I'm not an investigative reporter.

01:29:31.000 Ha ha ha!

01:29:31.000 It's not me, man.

01:29:32.000 I don't care.

01:29:34.000 I'm just like, don't hang out with that guy.

01:29:36.000 Put the fucking Scarlett X on. 1.00

01:29:37.000 I'm mentally crossing off the list.

01:29:40.000 He should be out of the NBA. Dry snitch.

01:29:42.000 Well, I'm glad people are thinking.

01:29:43.000 He doesn't get $30,000 in my plan.

01:29:46.000 Thank you.

01:29:46.000 That's so nice.

01:29:48.000 I'm glad people are looking at it that way, though, that they've ostracized him instead of like concentrating only on the guy who is banging other girls, you know?

01:29:56.000 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

01:29:58.000 You're right.

01:29:59.000 The priorities are totally, definitely solid.

01:30:02.000 Yeah, priorities in that case, because regardless of whether or not the guy who did the deed shouldn't have done it or should have done it, like whatever your opinions are about cheating...

01:30:11.000 That guy's violating a friendship.

01:30:13.000 Like, that guy didn't tell him that because he wanted the world to know.

01:30:16.000 He told him that because they're friends.

01:30:18.000 I have friends that tell me dark shit all the time that they do, and we laugh like pigs.

01:30:22.000 And I'll never tell a soul.

01:30:23.000 I'll go to my grave with all that knowledge.

01:30:25.000 And that's what a friend's supposed to be.

01:30:27.000 So any guy would do that, it's a piece of shit.

01:30:29.000 So I'm glad that the rules and principles of friendship have overtaken the rules and principles of monogamy.

01:30:35.000 Loyalty.

01:30:35.000 Yes.

01:30:36.000 To homies. 1.00

01:30:37.000 Over to the people you sleep with. 0.89

01:30:40.000 But no, it was interesting though, because that same week, it was this girl Kalani had supposedly, people had assumed she had cheated on her boyfriend who was in the NBA, Kyrie Irving, right?

01:30:52.000 So then this D'Angelo thing happened, but when it was the girl, everyone beat her up over cheating or whatever, and she actually didn't. 1.00

01:30:59.000 She didn't even cheat. 1.00

01:31:00.000 With the D'Angelo-Nick Young thing, everyone was just mad at D'Angelo.

01:31:04.000 Which, D'Angelo deserves, he's the worst person of that week.

01:31:06.000 But then also, I was like, well, if you're gonna be mad at Kalani, then you gotta be mad at Nick Young.

01:31:11.000 Or just don't be mad at either one of them, because who fucking cares?

01:31:13.000 That's the best attitude.

01:31:14.000 They're not my friends.

01:31:15.000 Also, the girl, I'm assuming, is hot, right? 1.00

01:31:17.000 She's great.

01:31:18.000 I love Kalani.

01:31:19.000 Is she hot? 1.00

01:31:20.000 Yeah, she hot. 1.00

01:31:20.000 Okay, here's the problem there. 1.00

01:31:22.000 Guys who can't fuck hot girls are always mad at them. 1.00

01:31:26.000 Yep, exactly.

01:31:27.000 They can't fuck them, they're mad at them.

01:31:28.000 Girls who see hot girls wish they could be those hot girls, and they're mad at them too. 0.97

01:31:33.000 They're mad at them too.

01:31:34.000 Hot girls take more hate than anybody on the planet. 1.00

01:31:37.000 Because the guys who can't fuck them are always going to be upset. 0.95

01:31:39.000 This bitch thinks she's better than me. 1.00

01:31:42.000 And then the girls are like, she ain't all that. 0.75

01:31:44.000 And then the girls are just taking constant negativity. 1.00

01:31:47.000 That's one of the problems with social media.

01:31:49.000 Hot girls get too much heat. 1.00

01:31:51.000 Too much.

01:31:52.000 Way too much.

01:31:53.000 Nick Young needs more heat.

01:31:54.000 That guy's terrible.

01:31:55.000 But that one was great.

01:31:56.000 You know, Kobe.

01:31:57.000 So the guy Nick Young asked Kobe to sign his shoes after Kobe's last game.

01:32:03.000 Goes up to Kobe with a pair of Adidas.

01:32:05.000 Kobe takes his shoes and throws them in the trash.

01:32:07.000 Doesn't sign him.

01:32:08.000 Whoa.

01:32:09.000 I was like, wow.

01:32:10.000 I hated Kobe his whole career and I love you now.

01:32:12.000 He threw him in the trash in front of the dude?

01:32:14.000 Just threw him in the trash.

01:32:15.000 Whoa.

01:32:16.000 Incredible.

01:32:17.000 Wow.

01:32:17.000 That's some real G shit.

01:32:19.000 Just to let you know.

01:32:20.000 Yep.

01:32:20.000 But didn't Kobe do that shit with Shaq?

01:32:22.000 He threw Shaq's shoes in the trash?

01:32:24.000 No way.

01:32:24.000 Didn't he throw Shaq out of the bus?

01:32:26.000 Didn't he throw Shaq out of the bus?

01:32:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:32:28.000 Kobe's a little bit of a dry snitch too.

01:32:31.000 Game recognized game.

01:32:33.000 That was a game recognized game situation.

01:32:35.000 Dry snitch is my new favorite word of the month.

01:32:38.000 Yeah, let's call people that.

01:32:39.000 Dry snitch.

01:32:40.000 Another good one is a dusty dude.

01:32:42.000 You call him a chili pimp.

01:32:43.000 What's a chili pimp?

01:32:44.000 Chili pimp. 0.98

01:32:45.000 He's a broke pimp.

01:32:46.000 You ain't got shit.

01:32:47.000 Chili's? 0.99

01:32:47.000 Chili pimp. 0.99

01:32:48.000 No, no.

01:32:48.000 You're cold outside.

01:32:49.000 You're chilly.

01:32:50.000 Oh.

01:32:50.000 You don't have a warm fur coat?

01:32:52.000 Nothing.

01:32:53.000 Nothing, you chili pimp. 0.97

01:32:54.000 Dry snitch, chili pimps. 0.99

01:32:55.000 These are the bottom of the barrel.

01:32:56.000 Chili pimp sounds cool, though.

01:32:58.000 That doesn't seem like I think I would like to be a chili pimp.

01:33:01.000 You don't want to be a chili pimp.

01:33:01.000 No, no, no.

01:33:02.000 Can we pull up chili pimps?

01:33:05.000 You don't want to be a chili pimp, Joe.

01:33:06.000 But it sounds cool.

01:33:08.000 It doesn't sound negative at all.

01:33:10.000 That's like you're hopping on one foot and your girl's hopping on the other one. 0.76

01:33:13.000 That's not good, man.

01:33:14.000 Well, that's not good.

01:33:14.000 You're cold outside.

01:33:15.000 Yeah, I get that.

01:33:16.000 But, I mean, chili pimp sounds like, oh, he's just a chili pimp.

01:33:20.000 Like, that guy's a good guy.

01:33:21.000 Yeah, see, look.

01:33:21.000 A pimp who is shivering because he only has one hoe in his stable.

01:33:24.000 Mm.

01:33:26.000 This dude in the mall claimed he was pimping.

01:33:29.000 His pimping was big time, but he ain't nothing but a chili pimp. 0.77

01:33:33.000 That's how you use it.

01:33:34.000 Is this the Urban Dictionary?

01:33:35.000 Is that what it is?

01:33:36.000 What a world we live in here.

01:33:38.000 There's an actual dictionary that gives you urban terminology.

01:33:42.000 You can also buy the mug.

01:33:42.000 You can buy a mug that says chili pimp on it?

01:33:45.000 Oh, click on that.

01:33:46.000 Let me see what we got here.

01:33:48.000 Does it have...

01:33:49.000 Oh, wait a minute.

01:33:49.000 The mug must have the definition on it.

01:33:52.000 Is that what it is?

01:33:53.000 Oh, that is so ridiculous.

01:33:55.000 Joe, this is going to be a gift from you.

01:33:57.000 I can take this mug.

01:33:58.000 I'll get you the Chili Pimp mug.

01:34:00.000 I don't want it.

01:34:00.000 No, yeah, you do.

01:34:02.000 Jamie, I feel like we need him drinking some Bulletproof coffee out of the Chili Pimp mug.

01:34:07.000 Because they're spelling chili wrong.

01:34:09.000 Or what about dry stitching?

01:34:10.000 We'll get you a dry stitching mug.

01:34:14.000 They're spelling chili like the food.

01:34:17.000 Yeah, that's fire.

01:34:18.000 I like that.

01:34:18.000 You like that?

01:34:19.000 I like that.

01:34:19.000 That's fire.

01:34:21.000 That's fire.

01:34:21.000 Oh my god.

01:34:24.000 Look at who wrote the definition.

01:34:27.000 Brooks Badass.

01:34:30.000 Yeah.

01:34:30.000 Well, this is one person's definition of chili pepper.

01:34:33.000 Well, what's a sapiosexual? 1.00

01:34:36.000 Oh, a sapiosexual? 1.00

01:34:38.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 The fuck anything that's not a monkey?

01:34:40.000 That's wild.

01:34:42.000 Is that what it is?

01:34:43.000 Sapiosexual. 1.00

01:34:44.000 One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature.

01:34:48.000 What?

01:34:49.000 Oh.

01:34:49.000 This is the Urban Dictionary?

01:34:51.000 I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind.

01:34:55.000 I want someone for whom philosophical discussion is foreplay.

01:34:59.000 I want someone who sometimes makes me go ouch due to their wit and evil sense of humor.

01:35:03.000 I want someone that can reach out and touch randomly.

01:35:06.000 I want someone I can cuddle with.

01:35:08.000 I decide...

01:35:08.000 Oberlin students.

01:35:09.000 All that means I am sapiosexual. 0.59

01:35:12.000 You know what that sounds like?

01:35:12.000 That sounds like a really lonely person who needs to get this shit together.

01:35:17.000 Whenever you read someone's Instagram and it's filled with, I'm looking for this.

01:35:21.000 Someone who loves you deeply does not...

01:35:24.000 That's a lonely fucker.

01:35:27.000 Leave him alone.

01:35:28.000 That's true.

01:35:28.000 What if mine says Asiatic...

01:35:31.000 Single Asiatic male seeks ride-or-die chick is that that's perfect like it cool, but it's funny cool See when it's funny. 0.99

01:35:38.000 It's cool But there's one of you this is just for all the boys out there listening Okay, and girls too if you're lesbians if you go to a girl's page And it's all this stuff about love and what true love is and you when you find the one you'll know Fucking run. 0.89

01:35:53.000 Run from that person.

01:35:55.000 Run now.

01:35:56.000 Because that person's probably never happy, and they just sit around posting memes about what true love is.

01:36:01.000 And they're gonna make you go to brunch.

01:36:03.000 Those people like brunch.

01:36:04.000 Oh, they like mimosas.

01:36:05.000 Those mimosa-drinking cunts. 0.98

01:36:08.000 Eggs Benedict can suck my dick. 0.96

01:36:10.000 How about that, huh?

01:36:11.000 No, that's right.

01:36:12.000 I want to eat chili out of a mug.

01:36:16.000 They go to brunch!

01:36:17.000 I like a girl that never wakes up early enough for brunch. 0.97

01:36:21.000 Like, shit, I missed the call again.

01:36:22.000 Yeah.

01:36:23.000 You're also an asshole if you gotta pay someone to make eggs.

01:36:26.000 Like, just fucking have eggs.

01:36:27.000 If you want eggs on the weekend, just fucking make eggs. 0.99

01:36:30.000 You can't make eggs.

01:36:30.000 Yeah, but sometimes you don't feel like...

01:36:31.000 It's so fucking easy.

01:36:32.000 You feel like going somewhere, though.

01:36:33.000 See, I'll eat dim sum.

01:36:35.000 I'll wake up at, like, 2 and go eat dim sum.

01:36:37.000 Oh, you're a racist.

01:36:38.000 You're a racist.

01:36:39.000 I see what's going on.

01:36:41.000 No, but I don't want to fucking roll dumplings.

01:36:43.000 I'll pay somebody to do that.

01:36:45.000 Let me ask you this, because this is an important...

01:36:46.000 Or even, you know, like, fucking...

01:36:48.000 I'll pay to eat Mexican food on the more... 0.50

01:36:51.000 More racism.

01:36:52.000 More racism.

01:36:53.000 This is what I want to talk to you about, because this is a big subject that's been going on now.

01:36:57.000 This term that didn't exist until recently.

01:37:00.000 Cultural appropriation.

01:37:02.000 Yes.

01:37:03.000 Cultural appropriation.

01:37:03.000 That Rick Bayless guy, who's a very famous Mexican chef.

01:37:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:07.000 That guy is taking shit from all these social justice warrior dipshits because he makes Mexican food and he's not Mexican. 0.98

01:37:14.000 He's a white guy from Oklahoma.

01:37:16.000 And there was this whole article about whether or not this guy, who is one of the best Mexican cooking chefs...

01:37:21.000 You think he's one of the best?

01:37:21.000 His food is not...

01:37:23.000 You tell me because you're the guy.

01:37:24.000 Well, he's widely recognized as a highly respected.

01:37:27.000 Well, here, this is what makes people upset.

01:37:29.000 This is what makes people upset.

01:37:30.000 You're a guy like, you're one of those guys that's deep, deep, deep in the world.

01:37:35.000 Whereas, like, if you came to me and said, oh my god, this guy, I don't want to say anybody's name, but this guy is hilarious.

01:37:40.000 I'd be like, that guy's dog shit.

01:37:41.000 He's got writers.

01:37:41.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:42.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:43.000 So he's a guy that, like, look, his food's not...

01:37:46.000 Bad, but it's not great.

01:37:48.000 It's definitely not the best Mexican food in America, but he wins tons of awards.

01:37:51.000 Is it because he's white?

01:37:52.000 I don't think it's because...

01:37:55.000 It's complicated, right?

01:37:57.000 Because he's white isn't wrong, but it's the Quan. 1.00

01:38:01.000 You remember like in Jerry Maguire, they're like, the Quan. 1.00

01:38:03.000 The thing with a lot of these chefs that win these awards, the food and wine, best new chef, Michelin, fucking James Beard...

01:38:10.000 It's a lot of the times because they can speak English, they can communicate with the writers, and the writers can write a story about them.

01:38:17.000 They're not winning because it's the best food.

01:38:20.000 They're winning because there's a story to write and a story to tell.

01:38:23.000 And Rick Bayless, being a white guy from Oklahoma, cooking Maybe slightly above average Mexican food is a story.

01:38:30.000 Slightly above average?

01:38:31.000 Have you been to a border grill?

01:38:32.000 It's not fucking good.

01:38:34.000 Wait a minute.

01:38:34.000 Border grill, though, you have a bunch of other people cooking it.

01:38:37.000 Like, what about when he's cooking it?

01:38:38.000 Wait, let me check his restaurant name.

01:38:40.000 Rick Bayless.

01:38:41.000 I remember eating his...

01:38:43.000 I just don't want to be wrong.

01:38:44.000 Fucking...

01:38:44.000 He's the guy that's got...

01:38:45.000 Frontera Grill.

01:38:46.000 Frontera Grill, that's what I mean.

01:38:47.000 Frontera Grill.

01:38:48.000 Yeah.

01:38:48.000 Where's that at?

01:38:50.000 And he's in the airports now.

01:38:52.000 You've got all the airport restaurants, stuff like that.

01:38:54.000 But you know what's weird, man?

01:38:54.000 Like, if you're a stand-up comedian, okay?

01:38:56.000 And you open up a comedy club, and some whack-ass comedian comes to perform.

01:39:00.000 If you're a stand-up comedian, and you open up a comedy club, and some whack-ass comedian comes and performs at your comedy club, no one says, hey, Joey Diaz's comedy club, I went there the other day, and this guy went up and performed, this guy sucks, so Joey Diaz must be a bad comedian.

01:39:14.000 Like, if you were gonna judge Rick Bayless, you would have to judge him by his own cooking.

01:39:19.000 Have you ever eaten his own cooking?

01:39:21.000 Yeah.

01:39:21.000 You have?

01:39:22.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 Where at?

01:39:23.000 Frontera Grill.

01:39:23.000 But were you there when he cooked it?

01:39:25.000 Oh, no.

01:39:25.000 I didn't meet him.

01:39:26.000 But he wasn't there.

01:39:27.000 No.

01:39:28.000 But here's the thing.

01:39:29.000 Well, hold on.

01:39:29.000 Was he there?

01:39:29.000 You judge them on the work...

01:39:32.000 It doesn't matter if he's there or not.

01:39:33.000 It's your restaurant.

01:39:34.000 That's your name on it.

01:39:35.000 If somebody comes in a bad house and has a bad meal, that's on me.

01:39:38.000 I think we're splitting hairs because this is a restaurant.

01:39:40.000 Were you saying his restaurant's no good?

01:39:42.000 That I understand.

01:39:43.000 But have you ever eaten his cooking?

01:39:45.000 I mean, I feel like if you're in the restaurant, that's his cooking, fam.

01:39:48.000 No, no, no.

01:39:49.000 Is he cooked?

01:39:50.000 Have you eaten what he cooked?

01:39:52.000 I have not sat in front of him and eaten when he's cooking there, no.

01:39:55.000 So what the fuck?

01:39:56.000 It's his restaurant.

01:39:58.000 That's what makes a chef, right?

01:39:59.000 You know what?

01:40:00.000 I caught a bad review.

01:40:01.000 I was known for catching this bad review at Xiaoya.

01:40:07.000 I had a restaurant.

01:40:07.000 Sam Sifton came in.

01:40:08.000 I was sitting in the dining room.

01:40:09.000 I was not cooking.

01:40:10.000 And he did not have a great meal.

01:40:12.000 And you know what?

01:40:12.000 I took it on the face and I owned it.

01:40:14.000 And the thing is, Rick Bailey, he doesn't make bad food.

01:40:17.000 It's just...

01:40:17.000 It's not...

01:40:18.000 For all the accolades he has, it's not the best.

01:40:21.000 But also, there's a bit of a thing with food that...

01:40:26.000 The literati, the intelligentsia, the blogs, the magazines, they're always electing people that they can tell a story about, speak English, have this shishi dining room.

01:40:36.000 It's not about the food.

01:40:38.000 They always talk about the food, but it's not.

01:40:41.000 And I think that people of ethnic cultures, from the background of Mexican food and things like that, people get upset when there's somebody else that didn't live the life, didn't grow up with it, isn't The best at it, representing it.

01:40:55.000 You know?

01:40:56.000 Like, if it's gonna be somebody from the outside, he better be the fucking best.

01:40:58.000 Otherwise, get somebody who lived this life and knows all the history and identity and culture attached to this food and let them speak for their own food.

01:41:05.000 Okay, I think part of the problem of this conversation is you want to talk about the restaurant this guy runs.

01:41:09.000 I want to talk about him as a chef.

01:41:11.000 And I'm saying you haven't had his food as a chef.

01:41:15.000 And what I've read is that he makes excellent Mexican food and he really is a student of the culture and is enamored by Mexican culture and Mexican traditions and he's essentially a scholar of Mexican food.

01:41:27.000 I don't think he's done anything wrong.

01:41:29.000 I want to put that on the right.

01:41:30.000 I don't think he's done anything wrong.

01:41:31.000 I went to his restaurant.

01:41:32.000 I've been to the restaurant and had the food.

01:41:34.000 But you've never had it from him.

01:41:36.000 But doesn't that mean something?

01:41:38.000 But you're saying it like it's not a big a deal.

01:41:39.000 It's not, because in the restaurant industry, the thing is, once you walk in the door, that's that man's food.

01:41:44.000 Oh, man.

01:41:45.000 Fuck all that.

01:41:45.000 That's that man's food.

01:41:46.000 I agree with him.

01:41:47.000 I mean, it's his recipe.

01:41:48.000 He's putting his whole thing he created on the line.

01:41:51.000 Right.

01:41:51.000 But he's not cooking it.

01:41:53.000 I just feel like, you know, if you're leaving it to someone else to do it, I mean, you might have had the bad...

01:41:57.000 It's like, if you're an architect and, you know, you're a builder of a house and someone comes along and does a shitty job building your creation, are you responsible?

01:42:06.000 Well, if you were supposed to oversee every single aspect of the construction, yes.

01:42:10.000 I'll even get beyond him because I don't think he's done anything wrong.

01:42:13.000 And this is the one thing in this discussion that I feel is unfair to some of these chefs, especially the white chefs.

01:42:18.000 It's not their fault that journalists and people want to give them more.

01:42:21.000 Somebody wants to give them more.

01:42:22.000 I don't expect them to throw it in the fucking ground.

01:42:24.000 You know?

01:42:25.000 The problem, though, is the media and the people giving these awards and the ones selecting saying, this is the best chef, this is the best Mexican food...

01:42:33.000 It's really obnoxious to the people of that culture that are like, dude, that's not really representing who we are, but now this guy's representing our food in America, and he's the one you go to for information.

01:42:44.000 He's a fan of the culture.

01:42:46.000 Let me just be honest with you.

01:42:47.000 No one who goes to restaurants knows about awards.

01:42:50.000 Yeah, they do.

01:42:51.000 But it's so rare that anyone ever discusses awards.

01:42:54.000 But even the platform, they give him the platform to speak for Mexican food in America.

01:42:58.000 You know, he's the guy people go to.

01:43:00.000 On Top Chef, they always bring him in.

01:43:01.000 You know?

01:43:02.000 You've given him the platform and you've given him the megaphone to speak for a culture that he's not a part of.

01:43:07.000 That he's not a part of.

01:43:09.000 You know anybody that wins?

01:43:10.000 I don't know what the fucking awards are for food.

01:43:12.000 I just know when someone's supposed to be a famous chef.

01:43:15.000 But that's the thing.

01:43:16.000 He's been elevated as the famous chef.

01:43:18.000 When you have the Aztec Hirachi restaurant in Highland Park that's fucking fire.

01:43:22.000 Where's that?

01:43:22.000 Or Connie Seafood in Inglewood.

01:43:24.000 Hold on.

01:43:24.000 Say it again.

01:43:25.000 Aztec.

01:43:26.000 It's the Aztec Hirachi restaurant in Highland Park.

01:43:28.000 It's incredible.

01:43:28.000 What is it?

01:43:30.000 They sell hirachis.

01:43:31.000 They're awesome.

01:43:32.000 What's a hirachi?

01:43:35.000 It's like a corn...

01:43:41.000 It's almost like an open-faced...

01:43:43.000 I would explain it as an open-faced arepa. 0.67

01:43:48.000 What the fuck's an arepa?

01:43:50.000 It's a corn masa.

01:43:51.000 This is not my specialty.

01:43:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:43:54.000 Like a tamale?

01:43:55.000 No, it's corn meal.

01:43:57.000 You kind of have to see it to H-U-R-A-C-H-E. Yeah, see? 0.65

01:44:06.000 Okay.

01:44:08.000 And that...

01:44:09.000 That's what Aztec and Highland Park does really well.

01:44:12.000 How the fuck do you even eat that thing?

01:44:13.000 It's like flatbread, bro.

01:44:14.000 Treat it like flatbread.

01:44:15.000 You pick it up?

01:44:16.000 Yeah.

01:44:17.000 So it's hard at the bottom?

01:44:18.000 No, you cut it.

01:44:18.000 You cut it.

01:44:19.000 You cut it and eat it.

01:44:21.000 Cornmeal on the bottom.

01:44:22.000 It's incredible.

01:44:23.000 You gotta have one of these things.

01:44:24.000 I believe you.

01:44:25.000 And then also, Connie's Seafood in Inglewood is one of the best Mexican restaurants you'll ever eat at.

01:44:30.000 So there's some excellent Mexican restaurants.

01:44:32.000 But my point being, does this guy, so you think it's deserved, that he's getting shit, not because he's the best Mexican, because he's getting all these accolades, not because he's the best, but because it's easy to write a story about him because he's a white guy from Oklahoma. 0.60

01:44:46.000 Yes.

01:44:46.000 And he's very articulate when it comes to this culture.

01:44:49.000 And the people that select the gatekeepers and the people who speak for culture, they're picking a guy that they can communicate with easily, makes their job easy, and can tell a story that's easily disseminated amongst the masses.

01:45:04.000 And I don't think it's Rick Bayless' fault.

01:45:05.000 I don't think Rick Bayless has done anything wrong Like, in this context ever.

01:45:10.000 It's the media selecting him as, you are now the spokesperson for Mexican food in America.

01:45:15.000 And it's like, this motherfucker?

01:45:17.000 Like, if you're Mexican, you'd be tight. 1.00

01:45:19.000 Right.

01:45:19.000 You'd be mad at that.

01:45:21.000 Yeah.

01:45:21.000 Well, so who should be?

01:45:22.000 Actually, on the show, right, so when we went to China, I was craving American food.

01:45:26.000 I was in China for 17 days.

01:45:28.000 And I was like, you know what?

01:45:29.000 I miss fucking hamburgers and a salad and nachos.

01:45:31.000 And we went to a place called Deli Burger.

01:45:33.000 It was the most popular American restaurant for expats in Hunan, China.

01:45:39.000 And we went.

01:45:39.000 This place had like Pulp Fiction posters, Big Lebowski.

01:45:42.000 It was interesting.

01:45:43.000 They had like a Phillips, like fucking French dip logo thing in there.

01:45:48.000 They collected all these American artifacts they bought on Amazon.

01:45:51.000 We ate their hamburger and it tasted like Chinese food.

01:45:55.000 It was hilarious.

01:45:56.000 It was a delicious hamburger, but it wasn't a hamburger.

01:45:59.000 It tasted like they had a Philly cheesesteak and my buddy was like, he's from Van Nuys, he ate it and he was like, listen, I have so many friends that are Mexican or Asian growing up in LA that get mad when white people or people not of the culture make their food and they're like,

01:46:18.000 this isn't representing us.

01:46:19.000 This isn't what they said.

01:46:21.000 This is not Mapo tofu.

01:46:22.000 This is not a soup dumpling.

01:46:24.000 This is some chef's creation.

01:46:25.000 And he goes, I never understood why they got mad until I ate this Philly cheesesteak because this is not a Philly cheesesteak.

01:46:31.000 This is like stir-fried beef in bread.

01:46:35.000 And they should call it the Hunan Hoagie because it tastes good, but it is not a Philly cheesesteak.

01:46:39.000 And I love Philly cheesesteaks and I love hamburgers.

01:46:42.000 And it's like when you see something that you love being called something else and being represented a different way, it's upsetting because that's your identity.

01:46:49.000 But Rick Bayless, in his defense, does follow traditional Mexican cooking methods and makes food that tastes like Mexican food.

01:46:58.000 Yes, yes, yes.

01:47:00.000 But the thing is, is that he's a fan and he's a degree removed.

01:47:03.000 And it's like, if you're gonna go to a source, why not just go to the source?

01:47:07.000 For many cultures, you know, like Andy Ricker is a really good friend of mine.

01:47:12.000 But when people talk about Thai food in America, they go to him and he's a white guy from Portland.

01:47:16.000 To Andy's credit, and he is one of my best friends and I love him for this, he puts the names of the Thai people that taught him things on his menu.

01:47:23.000 As much as he can, he pushes the credit and he pushes people towards the Thai people he learned from so they can get it from the source.

01:47:29.000 But these journalists are fucking lazy.

01:47:31.000 They don't care.

01:47:32.000 They don't go talk to those people.

01:47:34.000 It's harder.

01:47:34.000 Because it's easier to call a guy that speaks English and can communicate with you.

01:47:38.000 For journalists, they can write one shitty restaurant review and just take you down.

01:47:43.000 They have that power.

01:47:45.000 And that power is really intoxicating, isn't it?

01:47:47.000 Yeah.

01:47:48.000 Have you ever dealt with, like, douchey journalists that you felt like were kind of out to get you?

01:47:55.000 Yeah, there's a few people that I've done interviews with in the first five minutes that could tell they're out to get me, but then once they can tell I'm pretty genuine and honest and straightforward, they're like, alright, I'll level with this guy.

01:48:06.000 I'll talk to him.

01:48:07.000 So no, I would not say that there were people that were out to get me.

01:48:11.000 There's a couple, but I can't even remember them because I don't care.

01:48:14.000 Right.

01:48:14.000 It's harder and harder to do that these days, too, because of the internet.

01:48:19.000 You know, if someone writes a shitty review, it's so easy to out that person and describe what exactly was going on behind the scenes and who that person really is.

01:48:25.000 And I respond on IG, Twitter, YouTube.

01:48:28.000 People have a problem.

01:48:29.000 They want to ask me something.

01:48:29.000 I'll answer it.

01:48:30.000 So I'm kind of...

01:48:31.000 It's hard to do the hit piece thing on me because it's like my information's all out there.

01:48:35.000 Right.

01:48:35.000 People know they can talk to me.

01:48:37.000 I'll give you the answer.

01:48:38.000 Right, right, right.

01:48:39.000 You know, that makes sense.

01:48:40.000 What do you think is the future when it comes to...

01:48:42.000 I think, like, Yelp reviews have kind of taken away a lot of the steam from journalists reviewing restaurants.

01:48:51.000 Because a lot of people, when they want to find out about a restaurant, they'll go to a Yelp review.

01:48:54.000 You know, they'll say, oh, well, look at this, four and a half stars on Yelp.

01:48:57.000 Let me read a couple of reviews.

01:48:58.000 And you read a couple of reviews and you go see what their other reviews are at other restaurants.

01:49:01.000 You find out whether or not they're accurate.

01:49:03.000 That's disturbing when you find someone who's a shill. 1.00

01:49:06.000 When you definitely can tell that someone was hired by that restaurant to write some bullshit piece.

01:49:11.000 They only have one review and it's of that restaurant.

01:49:13.000 It's super obvious.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, that's just annoying, man.

01:49:16.000 But I feel people are figuring it all out.

01:49:19.000 Like at the end of the day, the cream rises to the top and you fucking figure it out.

01:49:23.000 Right.

01:49:23.000 You know?

01:49:24.000 That's why a lot of the stuff you were saying is true.

01:49:26.000 It's like hard work pays off, you know, fucking the people who deserve it to get it, you know.

01:49:31.000 That's right.

01:49:31.000 Fucking do it.

01:49:32.000 Fuck that 30 grand a year.

01:49:33.000 Can't give people money.

01:49:35.000 Yeah.

01:49:36.000 I love, like we started this conversation, I love the hate because it helps me get better.

01:49:41.000 I like hearing the criticism.

01:49:42.000 I like to work on my game.

01:49:44.000 I like to work on myself.

01:49:45.000 But at the end of the day, I don't hold on to it anymore because...

01:49:49.000 Your destiny is in your hands.

01:49:50.000 Whatever you want.

01:49:51.000 You may have to work harder than somebody else, but if you work hard, you can do it.

01:49:56.000 You can get there.

01:49:57.000 I genuinely believe that.

01:49:58.000 What do you like doing better?

01:49:59.000 Do you like working as a chef and cooking and owning a restaurant, or do you like doing these TV shows and all this craziness that you do?

01:50:06.000 My favorite thing is writing.

01:50:08.000 Really?

01:50:08.000 I love writing, because I think writing, it forces me to be the most honest with myself.

01:50:13.000 I get to work on myself and get closer to figuring out what life is about, like the meaning of life shit.

01:50:19.000 And not to be corny, but I wake up and I think about it.

01:50:21.000 And when I write every morning, I get closer and I'm pulling back layers, and I love that.

01:50:26.000 But cooking, basketball, when I'm playing or I'm cooking, it teaches me things, but the place I go to figure it out is writing.

01:50:34.000 So I love writing.

01:50:35.000 How often do you write?

01:50:36.000 Every morning.

01:50:37.000 I wake up every morning, I just do it.

01:50:39.000 It may not be that much, but I write something to myself, I write it down, write ideas, I have tons of Google Docs, always open.

01:50:45.000 Really?

01:50:46.000 Yeah.

01:50:46.000 Like, what kind of writing?

01:50:48.000 Screenplays, books, uh, ideas.

01:50:52.000 Just, I just, I'm always writing.

01:50:54.000 I always have a couple projects I'm writing.

01:50:57.000 Like, I have a fiction book I'm writing right now.

01:50:58.000 Really?

01:50:59.000 Yeah.

01:50:59.000 About what?

01:51:01.000 Um...

01:51:03.000 I don't...

01:51:04.000 I don't want to...

01:51:05.000 You know, it's a...

01:51:06.000 The last book I wrote was a romance and it was a non-fiction about my life.

01:51:10.000 But the one thing...

01:51:12.000 A romance?

01:51:12.000 Yeah.

01:51:12.000 A non-fiction romance?

01:51:14.000 I have this book coming out May 31st called Double Cup Love.

01:51:16.000 And it's about...

01:51:17.000 I think you might have met my...

01:51:19.000 My fiancée.

01:51:20.000 The first time I came on the show, I think she came with me.

01:51:23.000 First time.

01:51:24.000 Anyway.

01:51:25.000 Maybe.

01:51:25.000 Yeah.

01:51:26.000 But...

01:51:26.000 Yeah.

01:51:27.000 You know, no.

01:51:28.000 I wrote about it.

01:51:28.000 It was about my journey back to China with my brothers.

01:51:31.000 So I wrote that book.

01:51:32.000 But I think...

01:51:34.000 Non-fiction, it's hard to keep putting yourself out there in the most honest way.

01:51:39.000 So I started writing fiction because I want to write about my life, but I want to kind of ground it in other characters and things like that and explore it and work through the ideas.

01:51:50.000 So it's been interesting.

01:51:51.000 I've been doing that.

01:51:52.000 I'm trying to write fiction.

01:51:54.000 Wow, that's interesting.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:56.000 You've been doing this for how long?

01:51:57.000 The last six months I've been doing fiction, but I've been writing my whole life ever since ninth grade.

01:52:03.000 I was into writing.

01:52:04.000 Really?

01:52:05.000 Yeah.

01:52:05.000 Wow.

01:52:06.000 So you're a pretty diverse guy, man.

01:52:08.000 That's one of the things I like about you.

01:52:09.000 You've always got a bunch of irons in the fire.

01:52:11.000 Thanks, man.

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:12.000 I wrote a screenplay about a suicidal basketball player, like a kid, teenage kid, going through a lot of shit.

01:52:18.000 So I wrote about some of the things.

01:52:20.000 I remember me and my friends going through teenage years, put it into a basketball player from Queens.

01:52:26.000 So I wrote that screenplay.

01:52:27.000 I'm always writing, like picking up pieces from my life and creating characters.

01:52:32.000 What do you use to write?

01:52:33.000 What program do you use?

01:52:34.000 Final Draft.

01:52:35.000 But I'm an idiot, dude.

01:52:37.000 I turned in to my homie that works at MGM. I sent him a screenplay in Microsoft Word.

01:52:41.000 And he's like, this shit is fire, but you have to put this in fucking Final Draft.

01:52:45.000 You're a clown.

01:52:47.000 It's not that easy to convert?

01:52:50.000 No, you have to actually write the whole fucking thing out.

01:52:53.000 You gotta do it again?

01:52:54.000 Yeah, I really just rewrote the whole thing.

01:52:56.000 It was funny.

01:52:57.000 But you can have two windows open at the same time, just copy and paste back and forth, so it's not that brutal.

01:53:02.000 Not too brutal, yeah.

01:53:03.000 Yeah, I wrote some stuff from Final Draft.

01:53:05.000 Final Draft's tricky, but once you get used to the shortcuts and how to use the commands.

01:53:09.000 Yeah.

01:53:09.000 But for writing ideas, have you ever used Write Room?

01:53:14.000 Do you know what that is?

01:53:15.000 No.

01:53:15.000 What's that?

01:53:15.000 It's pretty dope.

01:53:16.000 It's a program where it blocks out everything in your screen except for the writing.

01:53:22.000 You can't go into your browsers.

01:53:24.000 You don't get any notifications.

01:53:26.000 You don't do shit.

01:53:27.000 It just shows you only the writing and gives you a look at it like that.

01:53:32.000 That's good.

01:53:33.000 That's what your screen looks like.

01:53:34.000 It's just a black screen with green ink, and that's all you get.

01:53:38.000 See, the green ink would drive me crazy, but what I do, man...

01:53:41.000 I feel like I'm in the Terminator.

01:53:43.000 I get in the zone.

01:53:44.000 I'm really good about getting in the zone.

01:53:46.000 I play one song and I'll loop it and I'll listen to the same song for like 12 hours.

01:53:51.000 Just over and over and over.

01:53:53.000 What song?

01:53:55.000 It'll just be a song that day.

01:53:56.000 Like I've had like a random...

01:53:59.000 Jazz song or it'll be like Smith and Wesson or Lana Del Rey or Can't Blow and I'll just play that song looped for hours and hours and hours and it gets in a trance because you stop listening to the song.

01:54:11.000 It's just noise.

01:54:13.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, I've done that before.

01:54:16.000 Yeah.

01:54:16.000 Yeah, I've done that on airplanes in particular.

01:54:19.000 I like to ride on airplanes for some strange reason.

01:54:22.000 It's good.

01:54:22.000 You get focused.

01:54:23.000 Also, you're positive.

01:54:24.000 It's like the altitude thing.

01:54:26.000 Altitude helps.

01:54:26.000 Makes you positive?

01:54:27.000 There's like studies you do that it's like you get euphoria in the air when you're that high up.

01:54:32.000 It's because there's no air up there.

01:54:34.000 My brain's falling asleep.

01:54:36.000 Something.

01:54:37.000 Something.

01:54:38.000 Some shit about altitude gives you euphoria.

01:54:40.000 There's another great program called Scrivener.

01:54:42.000 You ever tried that?

01:54:43.000 You know what that is?

01:54:44.000 It's a program that allows you to have like a virtual chalkboard and it has all these little index cards.

01:54:51.000 You move around the corkboard and I'll show you here.

01:54:55.000 I've got it open up here.

01:54:56.000 You can take some of your ideas and you can write them on these little corkboard things.

01:55:04.000 I'll show you when it loads up.

01:55:07.000 Oh there, Jamie's got it.

01:55:10.000 Yeah, so like that.

01:55:11.000 So it gives you this option to do these little...

01:55:14.000 Sorry, I got it like here.

01:55:16.000 And you put these little notes, like these little tiny little fake index cards, and you can move these suckers around on this virtual...

01:55:24.000 Wait, what's it called?

01:55:25.000 It's called Scrivener.

01:55:26.000 So you write a lot of screenplays, huh?

01:55:28.000 No.

01:55:28.000 No, I don't.

01:55:30.000 I used to write a bunch of different stuff, but now primarily what I do is I write essays, and out of those essays, I take stand-up ideas.

01:55:37.000 I used to write a lot of blog entries, but I found out that a lot of those blog entries would eventually become stand-up, and it was almost like I was giving people a preview of the stand-up.

01:55:45.000 I'm like, better to write them for myself and then just steal from them.

01:55:49.000 Also, I'm way into...

01:55:50.000 I used to do a blog too.

01:55:51.000 I love blogging.

01:55:52.000 But I'm at a point now where I feel people are such exhibitionists.

01:55:56.000 You do something and you just immediately put it out.

01:55:58.000 I want to see what people think.

01:55:59.000 Read my shit.

01:56:00.000 I'm like, you know what, man?

01:56:01.000 Unless I made a samurai sword, I don't want you to see it.

01:56:04.000 Because I don't want to waste your time.

01:56:06.000 I want you to see the most fire shit I made.

01:56:08.000 And I worked hard on it.

01:56:09.000 It's worth your time.

01:56:10.000 That's a good attitude.

01:56:11.000 Sometimes, though, I like reading people's blogs.

01:56:14.000 Sometimes someone will write a blog and it'll change your day.

01:56:17.000 It changes the frequency of the way you think.

01:56:20.000 For whatever reason, their thought just makes it into your mind and bounces around in there and it changes some things.

01:56:26.000 Yeah, I don't think it's bad to write blogs.

01:56:28.000 I just think everybody's doing it.

01:56:29.000 And for me personally, I'm like, you know what?

01:56:31.000 I'd like to be in the lab and just only put something out and I put out a lot of shit about my life in the last few years, so I'm kind of making sure I really want to share these things now.

01:56:42.000 Right, yeah.

01:56:43.000 That's the thing about sharing.

01:56:45.000 You can't unshare.

01:56:46.000 You can't unshare.

01:56:47.000 Yeah.

01:56:48.000 And it's an interesting psychological thing, this constantly giving yourself up to the internet.

01:56:54.000 Well, so there's a lot of people that live inside their phone.

01:56:57.000 Yeah.

01:56:57.000 They live inside their laptop and their phone.

01:56:59.000 They live in it.

01:57:00.000 And their interaction with the world comes directly through that.

01:57:03.000 That's their filter. 0.93

01:57:04.000 That's their condom for intimacy with the world.

01:57:08.000 Yeah.

01:57:08.000 It's very strange.

01:57:09.000 Yeah, we're going to learn a lot about ourselves constantly.

01:57:12.000 I mean, we're always learning about ourselves, but I think this internet thing, people are starting to see, wow, I put a lot of my shit out there.

01:57:20.000 Like, I'm kind of naked out there.

01:57:22.000 And then, is this really who I am?

01:57:23.000 Or is this some fucking alter ego?

01:57:25.000 So, I'm interested to see how this starts to affect psychology and identity.

01:57:29.000 Well, it's definitely affecting young kids.

01:57:31.000 I mean, young kids today are so much more exposed than we were when we were kids.

01:57:35.000 It's not even close.

01:57:36.000 If you're going to high school today, I mean, everything is on Instagram.

01:57:39.000 Everything is on Facebook.

01:57:40.000 Anything that happens that's even remotely interesting in school gets put out there.

01:57:44.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 I mean, this is the world we live in today.

01:57:46.000 It's very different.

01:57:47.000 When I was going to school, nobody knew shit.

01:57:49.000 You heard a rumor about some girl across town that jerks some dude off, and you're like, whoa, you hear about that?

01:57:54.000 Let me go jerk off and think about that.

01:57:57.000 But nobody put it out there in that way where the rest of the world could look at it, and the rest of the world can see virtually anything that you put online today.

01:58:06.000 It's just a strange thing because when you're young, you also don't understand the consequences.

01:58:12.000 No.

01:58:12.000 When you're talking shit or saying something or posting something, you really have no idea what that's going to do to people.

01:58:19.000 We look at these things, it's like, oh, you got 10,000 followers, 20,000, 100,000, million, right?

01:58:25.000 I don't think it registers.

01:58:27.000 Like, 10,000 people is a lot of fucking people.

01:58:30.000 That's a college campus.

01:58:31.000 All you need is one, and that one to get to someone who has 10,000.

01:58:34.000 And that 10,000, one of those 10,000, someone in that group has 20,000.

01:58:39.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 And that person knows someone who's got a million.

01:58:41.000 And in three or four steps, all of a sudden a million people have seen that.

01:58:46.000 And then if it's funny or it's crazy or it's interesting...

01:58:50.000 Like here's another cultural appropriation story.

01:58:52.000 There's this kid who was taking shit from this girl because he's a white guy with dreadlocks.

01:58:57.000 And I don't know if you saw this, but there was this black girl and there's this college in Northern California.

01:59:03.000 And she was giving this little tiny white dude a hard time. 1.00

01:59:05.000 She was just bullying him, man.

01:59:07.000 It was gross.

01:59:08.000 And she was telling him, you know, cut your hair.

01:59:10.000 Say to her friend, do you have any scissors?

01:59:12.000 I'm going to cut your hair. 1.00

01:59:13.000 And he's like, why can't I wear this?

01:59:14.000 She goes, because you're stealing from my culture. 0.91

01:59:15.000 Which is ignorant on her part.

01:59:17.000 She doesn't even know any better because the Greeks had dreadlocks. 1.00

01:59:20.000 The Vikings had dreadlocks.

01:59:21.000 Dreadlocks is what happens when you have dirty hair.

01:59:24.000 When you have dirty hair and it knots up in these loops.

01:59:27.000 Well, anyway, that video, someone was filming her bullying.

01:59:31.000 He's a little tiny dude.

01:59:32.000 And this video of this black girl bullying this tiny little white guy.

01:59:37.000 God fuck.

01:59:37.000 In millions and millions of hits within a day because people recognize it and they were disgusted by it and then people are also tired of all these Self-appointed gatekeepers self-appointed, you know people that can tell people one of the beautiful things about culture is that culture can be shared and that people can like like me I grew up learning taekwondo and in teaching classes in Korean because I grew up that's what I spent my life doing and And so that culture became a part of my culture.

02:00:07.000 It's not like I was stealing it or culturally appropriating it.

02:00:09.000 I was doing it honor and trying to do it justice.

02:00:12.000 But people have decided it's another new way for someone to stand above them and take the moral high ground and try to control people's behavior.

02:00:20.000 Yeah, I would say this.

02:00:21.000 Race is a social construct.

02:00:23.000 When your only basis for an argument is your race versus somebody else's race, you got a fucking shitty argument.

02:00:30.000 Do you know what I mean?

02:00:31.000 When it becomes something about intention, and we're talking about intentions, and we're talking about, like, are you trying to take a culture?

02:00:40.000 Are you trying to support it?

02:00:41.000 Are you a fan of this culture?

02:00:42.000 Are you giving back to this culture?

02:00:44.000 Those are productive conversations.

02:00:46.000 Like, the one we had about Rick Bayless, look, dude, I'm not out here to try to slam dude's food.

02:00:50.000 Like, I know a lot of people love his food.

02:00:52.000 So I'm not saying, oh, I know this shit.

02:00:54.000 I know Mexican food.

02:00:55.000 I'm a fucking Chinese guy.

02:00:56.000 Do you know what I mean?

02:00:57.000 Like, my opinion about Mexican food doesn't matter, shouldn't matter.

02:01:00.000 But my opinion about this appropriation, co-optation stuff is I wish people didn't have to have a gatekeeper or a tour guide or somebody culturally similar for them to try this food or go to this neighborhood.

02:01:18.000 I would love if people didn't have to have a shishi dining room with like American-style service or a whiteface or a great article to try this Mexican food. 0.98

02:01:29.000 I wish they would just go to the neighborhood and go to the source.

02:01:32.000 And then there's no problem with Rick Bayless's food if we're all informed about it.

02:01:37.000 It's just tough when he is the point of entry.

02:01:40.000 Well, cultural appropriation to me is really when you're pretending you're a part of a culture.

02:01:45.000 Like if a dude pretends he's Native American and starts wearing feathers in his hair and shit like that. 0.97

02:01:49.000 That's a nutty person.

02:01:50.000 That's real.

02:01:51.000 That's legit.

02:01:52.000 You got problems.

02:01:52.000 Yeah.

02:01:53.000 Well, it's also real cultural appropriation if you're wearing something that's supposed to be sacred.

02:01:56.000 Like there's certain articles of clothing that in some cultures are considered sacred and you're not supposed to be just walking around on them.

02:02:02.000 Like, you know, um...

02:02:04.000 What are those things called?

02:02:04.000 Is it a bindi?

02:02:05.000 With Indian people, Hindu people wearing their forehead? 1.00

02:02:09.000 I mean, that was like girls were wearing those things. 1.00

02:02:11.000 But I think those are supposed to mean something in certain cultures.

02:02:15.000 I get it.

02:02:16.000 It kind of looks cool.

02:02:17.000 You want to wear it because it looks cool.

02:02:18.000 I get that.

02:02:20.000 But things get sketchy when you're pretending to be a different culture. 0.92

02:02:23.000 Or you're lying about where you're from.

02:02:25.000 That's, in my eyes, more cultural appropriation.

02:02:29.000 Or taking it to give yourself an identity that is not yours.

02:02:32.000 Yeah.

02:02:32.000 See, all that is, though, is just dishonesty.

02:02:34.000 It's like not a white dude wearing dreadlocks.

02:02:37.000 You know, he's not pretending to not be white. 0.88

02:02:39.000 Or like that Rachel Dolezal person that was the NCAA... N-double-A-C-P person in Spokane, Washington, who turned out to actually be white. 1.00

02:02:49.000 Yeah, that was the most insane thing ever.

02:02:51.000 It was awesome.

02:02:52.000 And the funny thing is she... 0.98

02:02:54.000 She actually, like, her intentions were like...

02:02:57.000 Yeah.

02:02:57.000 Well, she really does love black culture and black people, and she was doing a great job, apparently, of running the NAACP up there.

02:03:03.000 She was insane, right?

02:03:06.000 She was totally insane. 1.00

02:03:07.000 For sure.

02:03:07.000 But then I was like, but when I listened to her intentions, I'm like, I don't think you're a bad person.

02:03:11.000 You're just really confused.

02:03:12.000 And this is like, I don't know how you got to this place.

02:03:15.000 I think some black dude dicked her into delirium. 1.00

02:03:18.000 That's probably what happened.

02:03:19.000 He just fucked her so good. 1.00

02:03:20.000 She was just running around with Tweety Birds flying around her head. 0.99

02:03:23.000 She had no idea what she was doing while she was doing it.

02:03:25.000 That's just my thought.

02:03:27.000 She was a tough one.

02:03:28.000 Well, there's crazy people out there.

02:03:29.000 And there's a broad spectrum of crazy activity.

02:03:32.000 Some of it that's logical and some of it that's not.

02:03:35.000 Some of it that's little tiny white lies and some of it that's just pretending to be a different race.

02:03:41.000 Yeah, man.

02:03:43.000 That's strange.

02:03:45.000 And in that strange shit is like what we were talking about before.

02:03:49.000 We can all learn.

02:03:50.000 Anybody that tells little white lies maybe, they'll watch Rachel Dolezal or someone else who got busted in some gigantic cataclysmic lie and go, oh, that's why you shouldn't lie.

02:04:01.000 Oh, that's why honesty and integrity are very important to people.

02:04:05.000 We communicate through noises that we make with our face that's supposed to level out the intent of your mind.

02:04:11.000 What people also don't realize is, a lot of the times, they think that we're friends with them for the peripheral shit, but I think most people, like, good people that you actually want to be your friends, they're not your friend because you have dreadlocks, they're not your friend because you're aping or you're doing this shit.

02:04:27.000 They're your friend because they fucking like you.

02:04:29.000 And you don't have to pretend.

02:04:30.000 You don't gotta pretend.

02:04:31.000 You don't gotta fucking think.

02:04:32.000 Just be who you are.

02:04:34.000 Unless who you are sucks, and then you should probably pretend.

02:04:37.000 Then you should work on it.

02:04:38.000 No, just pretend to be black. 0.99

02:04:40.000 The move is orange spray tan and dreadlocks and no.

02:04:44.000 Yeah.

02:04:45.000 Well, honesty is always better.

02:04:47.000 And then if people don't like you, we'll figure out why they don't like you and improve upon whatever aspect of your life that needs improving.

02:04:53.000 Don't pretend.

02:04:54.000 It's like, here's a perfect example of something that just never works.

02:04:59.000 Name dropping.

02:05:01.000 Name dropping is always gross and never works.

02:05:03.000 But yet dummies still try name dropping.

02:05:06.000 There's a lot of people that still think, you know, we were over hanging out with Tom.

02:05:10.000 I told you I was hanging out with Dan last time.

02:05:12.000 Tom Cruise.

02:05:12.000 You said Dan first.

02:05:15.000 Oh, Dan.

02:05:16.000 Yeah, but that's different.

02:05:17.000 We're homies.

02:05:17.000 I brought him up first because I was saying that he was going to be here when I couldn't go to your shit.

02:05:22.000 We brought up Shane Smith too, but we're friends too.

02:05:24.000 We're all friends.

02:05:25.000 We're all buddies.

02:05:26.000 That's different.

02:05:27.000 You can't name drop someone who we're both friends with.

02:05:30.000 That's true.

02:05:30.000 Yeah, that's different.

02:05:31.000 That's true.

02:05:32.000 But to other people listening.

02:05:33.000 Oh.

02:05:34.000 Oh, you know Shane Smith from Vice?

02:05:36.000 He must be so cool.

02:05:39.000 The worst is when people name drop and they use only one name.

02:05:42.000 Yeah.

02:05:43.000 And we're supposed to know who it is.

02:05:43.000 Yeah.

02:05:44.000 We were over at Eddie's house.

02:05:45.000 Who's Eddie?

02:05:45.000 Eddie Murphy.

02:05:46.000 What?

02:05:47.000 You're just gonna say Eddie and I'm supposed to know?

02:05:49.000 Yeah.

02:05:50.000 Or it's somebody famous and they want to drop the name and they'll say the real name and you're like, shut the fuck up, dude.

02:05:55.000 Really?

02:05:55.000 Like the real name instead of like a rapper name?

02:05:57.000 Yeah, like it'll be a rapper or a DJ and they'll use their real name.

02:06:00.000 Yeah, I was with, you know, like I'm friends with A-Track and people, oh, I was at Alon's.

02:06:04.000 I'm like, A-Track fam, just whatever.

02:06:07.000 Like, I also know his real name.

02:06:08.000 Whatever you want to do, man, drop one of them.

02:06:10.000 You know, drop both of them.

02:06:11.000 Yeah, what is name dropping?

02:06:13.000 Why do people still try to do that?

02:06:16.000 I don't know.

02:06:16.000 It's like a magic trick that just everybody knows.

02:06:19.000 It's just terrible.

02:06:20.000 Yeah, it doesn't work.

02:06:22.000 It's terrible.

02:06:22.000 It doesn't work.

02:06:23.000 It doesn't work.

02:06:24.000 It's like you're playing three card money and you only got one card.

02:06:27.000 Like, listen, bitch, it's the same fucking card! 1.00

02:06:29.000 You can't do it.

02:06:30.000 You can't play that game.

02:06:31.000 That's super funny shit.

02:06:33.000 Right?

02:06:34.000 Yeah.

02:06:34.000 Well, just weird behaviors, man.

02:06:36.000 It's like we were talking about before.

02:06:37.000 We learn from each other.

02:06:38.000 We learn from really great stuff, and we learn from shit, too.

02:06:42.000 We learn from dumb shit.

02:06:44.000 I learned, yeah, it's a fucking wise men learn more from fools thing.

02:06:48.000 Yes.

02:06:49.000 I'm a student of fools.

02:06:51.000 That's why I'm in the YouTube comments, man.

02:06:53.000 Learning from these fools.

02:06:54.000 Get in there, dude.

02:06:55.000 Get in there with Anonymous 69205 up your ass. 0.99

02:06:59.000 Whatever their name is.

02:07:00.000 Dumbass University.

02:07:01.000 Well, there's definitely.

02:07:03.000 I mean, I'm joking around a lot about YouTube comments.

02:07:06.000 There's actually some people that get involved.

02:07:07.000 I mean, I go to science pages.

02:07:09.000 And you look at the...

02:07:11.000 There's some interesting YouTube comments where people debate the actual ramifications.

02:07:16.000 I'm fascinated by this Planet 9 thing they're trying to observe now.

02:07:21.000 Because this is something I've been studying for a long time.

02:07:25.000 That they've been thinking...

02:07:26.000 There was very little evidence of it up until recently.

02:07:29.000 But that there was another planet outside the Kuiper Belt.

02:07:31.000 Somewhere outside of Pluto.

02:07:32.000 It's one of the reasons why they declassified Pluto as a planet.

02:07:35.000 But now they're almost positive...

02:07:38.000 There's a planet out there.

02:07:39.000 I think they said within 99% certainty that there's a gigantic planet somewhere around four to five times the size of the Earth that is out way, way, way past Jupiter.

02:07:53.000 And so I was going to a lot of these YouTube videos that were describing it and then reading the comments.

02:07:59.000 The comments were fascinating.

02:08:00.000 So that's a totally different sort of world.

02:08:02.000 People are debating the ramifications.

02:08:05.000 And then every now and then, one of those Zacharias Hitchin people would jump in there.

02:08:09.000 Do you know who Zacharias Hitchin is?

02:08:10.000 No.

02:08:10.000 Zacharias Hitchin was a guy who actually, ironically enough, predicted this in the 70s.

02:08:15.000 But he called it the 12th planet, because that's when they thought Pluto was still a planet, and then they thought the moon was a planet.

02:08:22.000 This is all based on the Sumerian text.

02:08:24.000 This is all getting real convoluted now.

02:08:26.000 But Zacharias Hitchin, he is a biblical scholar.

02:08:31.000 He's dead now.

02:08:31.000 But he wrote all these books about this culture from another planet called the Anunnaki.

02:08:38.000 And this is transcribing the ancient Sumerian text.

02:08:41.000 The Sumerians were the oldest... 1.00

02:08:43.000 There he is.

02:08:44.000 See that thing that he's holding up in front of him?

02:08:46.000 That is a piece of Sumerian art that depicts these...

02:08:51.000 That looks like some fucking Transformers shit.

02:08:53.000 Well, it does, right?

02:08:54.000 Well, what's interesting is, you see that star...

02:08:57.000 See the star, the sun with all the planets?

02:08:59.000 That is our solar system.

02:09:01.000 It's not just our solar system.

02:09:02.000 That is all the planets and all the right sizes, which is kind of fucking crazy.

02:09:07.000 Wow.

02:09:08.000 Yeah, and this was 6,000 years ago when a lot of people didn't even think that the world, they thought the world was flat, right?

02:09:14.000 But it also depicted this What they believe is one of the things that the Sumerian texts describe is this elliptical orbit of this planet called Nibiru.

02:09:26.000 And this planet is the outside edge of our solar system.

02:09:29.000 It comes between Mars and Jupiter.

02:09:33.000 In this Zacharias Hitchin translation, I think it was 3,600-something years, and that this is where the Anunnaki came from.

02:09:41.000 And what they did is they came down here, they studied some lower hominids, they introduced their DNA into these lower hominids and made human beings. 0.97

02:09:49.000 And so he had predicted this planet being outside of our solar system for a long time.

02:09:54.000 It's different.

02:09:56.000 And it's there.

02:09:56.000 Yeah, it is there.

02:09:57.000 Do we know what's on this planet?

02:09:59.000 Well, the orbit is different.

02:10:00.000 The size of the orbit is different compared to what he described.

02:10:05.000 No, we don't even have a picture of it, so we definitely don't know what it looks like.

02:10:10.000 But the Anunnaki, as described by Zacharias Hitchin, is the same thing as in the biblical term of the Elohim.

02:10:21.000 There's also different descriptions of these giants that came from somewhere else.

02:10:27.000 I think the description of Anunnaki, what it means is those from heaven to earth came.

02:10:32.000 And the idea is that these advanced beings came down here and genetically engineered human beings.

02:10:38.000 It's widely discredited by other scholars of ancient Babylonian and Sumerian culture, but fun as shit to pretend and read and wonder, well, what if he's right, man?

02:10:51.000 But see, when you do look at some of the stuff, though, you go, okay, well, how did they know about the solar system?

02:10:56.000 How did they know about all those planets?

02:10:58.000 Not only that, they had the caduceus, the symbol for medicine, and It's also the double helix of DNA, and that's what he believes it represented.

02:11:07.000 He believes that Caduceus symbol that they had represents DNA, and that that's what the ancient Sumerian people were trying to describe when they carved these things into clay tablets.

02:11:22.000 They were trying to, as best they could, Make some sort of a rational, logical depiction of what they are being told by these ancient people.

02:11:34.000 Damn.

02:11:35.000 So we might have already figured it out once, and then we're figuring it out again.

02:11:40.000 Or not.

02:11:41.000 Or there's just a giant...

02:11:43.000 Or they just have decorations that look like DNA. See, there's the double helix.

02:11:47.000 See, you look at the double helix of DNA, and then you look at the caduceus, where this intertwined...

02:11:51.000 You see the top one with the two eagles?

02:11:53.000 If I was 6,000 years old, man, and I was going to design some shit with snakes...

02:11:58.000 6,000 years ago.

02:11:59.000 Yeah.

02:11:59.000 I mean, it would kind of look like that.

02:12:01.000 But it does look like a double helix of DNA. It's very, very similar.

02:12:06.000 But it also looks like a guy was just trying to decorate with two snakes doing the tango.

02:12:10.000 But why does it represent medicine?

02:12:11.000 And why does it still represent medicine today?

02:12:14.000 That caduceus, that symbol, still represents medicine today.

02:12:16.000 True.

02:12:17.000 That one I'm having trouble explaining.

02:12:19.000 There's some weird shit.

02:12:20.000 There's also some weird shit in terms of some of the imagery that they had.

02:12:25.000 The solar system one is one of the most telling because it's really bizarre that without a telescope they were able to draw a detailed image of the solar system.

02:12:33.000 Like, how the fuck did they do that?

02:12:35.000 How did they know that there was that many planets out there?

02:12:38.000 How were they able to differentiate between stars and planets?

02:12:41.000 How did they know the right number of planets?

02:12:43.000 Yeah.

02:12:43.000 Not only that, they also had a detailed depiction of the creation of the moon.

02:12:47.000 They have two, you know, scientists and astronomers, they have Earth 1 and Earth 2, meaning that Earth was a certain size and a certain shape in the beginning, and then it was hit by another planet.

02:12:59.000 That's also in the ancient Sumerian depiction of how the universe was created, or how the solar system was created.

02:13:06.000 There's a planet called Marduk and Tiamat, and Tiamat collided with Marduk or something like that, I forget exactly what they, but essentially it's Earth-1 and Earth-2.

02:13:16.000 It's the same model that actual astrologers or astronomers use today when they're describing the Earth.

02:13:24.000 But he thinks these people from the other planet came here and created humans.

02:13:27.000 He does.

02:13:28.000 He thinks...

02:13:29.000 Well, he's dead.

02:13:30.000 He did.

02:13:30.000 He believed that that's what the ancient Sumerian text was trying to describe.

02:13:34.000 But there's a whole website called SitchinIsWrong.com.

02:13:37.000 And SitchinIsWrong.com is from other scholars who were tired of listening to all this, what they felt was nonsense.

02:13:45.000 I think?

02:14:05.000 And this was what he believed was describing the Anunnaki's genetic alterations of monkeys, of taking these lower hominids, introducing their superior advanced DNA into these monkeys, and creating something that's very different. 0.96

02:14:23.000 I know we would do it.

02:14:24.000 I'll tell you that.

02:14:25.000 For fuck sure.

02:14:27.000 Right?

02:14:27.000 If we found another planet there was a bunch of dumb monkeys on.

02:14:29.000 We did a detailed like audit of the planet and found no higher animals.

02:14:35.000 Nothing that had a computer.

02:14:36.000 We would drop our seeds.

02:14:37.000 Fuck yeah.

02:14:39.000 I mean we're probably already looking for those places.

02:14:41.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:14:43.000 At the very least someone would fuck one of those things. 1.00

02:14:45.000 Like Avatar, right?

02:14:47.000 That was like one of the most realistic things about Avatar, that dude wanted to fuck one of those blue people. 1.00

02:14:51.000 I would be scared to put my dick in a blue person. 1.00

02:14:53.000 Yeah, you never know what's going on.

02:14:55.000 Yeah, I don't know, man.

02:14:56.000 That shit probably burns through condoms. 0.94

02:14:58.000 Especially if they're big.

02:14:59.000 Blue people. 0.82

02:15:00.000 They're so much bigger than us.

02:15:01.000 Yeah.

02:15:02.000 And like, you know, especially when you look at the mating habits of things that we know on Earth.

02:15:07.000 What is this?

02:15:07.000 The skeletons they found?

02:15:09.000 Is that real?

02:15:09.000 I didn't find a fucking skeleton.

02:15:11.000 Throw that away. 0.93

02:15:11.000 What are you going to? 0.93

02:15:12.000 I'm not going to fuck a 36 foot tall blue person. 0.78

02:15:16.000 Well, if you do, you're going to need some help.

02:15:19.000 You're not going to do it alone.

02:15:21.000 36 foot tall.

02:15:22.000 That shit is so not real.

02:15:24.000 Well, it's fun.

02:15:27.000 Most of it is fun.

02:15:28.000 But if you look at that image that you had pulled up before, Jamie, there's an image of one of those Anunnaki having a little monkey-like person sitting in their lap. 1.00

02:15:37.000 It's not on this page.

02:15:38.000 It's before when you had some of those other images.

02:15:42.000 There's these ones where these guys, these enormous-looking characters, have these little tiny monkey people with thumbs on their feet, and they're sitting on this guy's lap.

02:15:53.000 They have thumbs on their feet.

02:15:55.000 Yeah, in the drawing.

02:15:56.000 Yeah, they're smaller and they have thumbs on their lap.

02:15:58.000 And according to the text this guy described, the text is very confusing too because it's something called cuneiform.

02:16:05.000 And cuneiform, it's like, have you ever been in an old building that has like those old school nails?

02:16:10.000 Do you know what those old school nails looked like, like in the turn of the century?

02:16:13.000 They were like a flat top, but it was almost like a wedge, and that's what nails looked like.

02:16:17.000 That was their writing.

02:16:18.000 That's not it, Jamie.

02:16:19.000 But that's one of them that's similar, but this is Egyptian.

02:16:23.000 You're looking at something that's Egyptian.

02:16:27.000 But the Anunnaki one, you had had it from just, if you go back to that window that you had before, go back to that window that you had before that had the depiction of the solar system.

02:16:36.000 Oh, on that one?

02:16:37.000 Okay.

02:16:37.000 Yeah, because when you went, whatever search that you used for that, there was one of them that had, one of those homeboys had one of them sitting on his lap.

02:16:46.000 Right up there, right up there at the top.

02:16:48.000 See, right there, bam.

02:16:49.000 See that?

02:16:50.000 Oh.

02:16:51.000 Like, look at that.

02:16:51.000 With the thumb foot.

02:16:53.000 Yeah.

02:16:54.000 There's a few of these that have little weird, that people think are depictions of things with tails.

02:17:02.000 It's very strange stuff, man.

02:17:04.000 It's very strange.

02:17:05.000 At the very least, they had an advanced knowledge.

02:17:07.000 That guy looks like a Teletubby, the one he's holding up.

02:17:10.000 It kind of looks like a Teletubby.

02:17:12.000 Well, it doesn't look like a monkey in that picture, but in some of them, they actually look like they have tails.

02:17:16.000 He got the fuckboy not haircut, too.

02:17:18.000 There's all sorts of weird stuff involved in it.

02:17:22.000 Their knowledge of the solar system is one of the most disturbing things.

02:17:25.000 Because you're talking about 6,000 years ago.

02:17:27.000 Like, how did they know about all those planets?

02:17:30.000 How did they know that they were...

02:17:31.000 They knew the right orbit.

02:17:34.000 You know, they knew that Jupiter was, like, far larger than Mars.

02:17:37.000 They had Mars smaller than Earth.

02:17:39.000 They had, like, all the orbits correct.

02:17:41.000 It was really strange stuff.

02:17:42.000 Yeah, it's too good to be a coincidence, but then I'm like, I don't know if I believe the whole shebang.

02:17:48.000 Yeah.

02:17:49.000 You know?

02:17:50.000 Almost always the whole shebang's wrong.

02:17:51.000 But it would be awesome if somebody just showed up on this planet, like Optimus Prime one day, and was like, hey, I created you guys.

02:17:58.000 We've been over here.

02:18:00.000 Like, ugh.

02:18:01.000 I've been wondering where you guys were.

02:18:03.000 Would you think that that would be fun, though?

02:18:05.000 It would be awesome.

02:18:06.000 Isn't it better to be at the top of the food chain than to be waiting for our galactic overlords to tell us how much we suck?

02:18:12.000 It would be just awesome if somebody showed up like, this is what life's about, this is what you're supposed to do, Eddie, your fucking ideas are terrible.

02:18:20.000 Please, fucking do this.

02:18:22.000 It would be devastating to the self-esteem of people living on Earth, I'll tell you that, because they would realize...

02:18:26.000 We would be like very Lord of the Flies-esque.

02:18:29.000 Like, we were a bunch of kids left alone to our own devices, and then when the adults showed up, they're like, what the fuck are you doing?

02:18:35.000 Yeah.

02:18:36.000 You know, and you realized everybody's just...

02:18:38.000 Acting like a psychopath, because they have no one to look over them.

02:18:42.000 It would be cool, though, if I've been doing it all wrong, I kind of want to know what the hell we're supposed to do.

02:18:47.000 Well, we're definitely doing it all wrong.

02:18:49.000 But I think we're supposed to figure it out on our own.

02:18:51.000 Look, if we've got Ted Cruz, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and Bernie Sanders, there are only hopes to be the commander-in-chief of the greatest army the world has ever known.

02:18:59.000 For fuck sure, we're doing it wrong.

02:19:01.000 We're 100% doing it wrong.

02:19:03.000 These are not the great scholars and the great intellectuals that we need to help run this world.

02:19:10.000 There's no one amongst them that has a brilliant philosophy.

02:19:13.000 Even when you're looking at Bernie and Hillary, and Bernie, as much as I love him and as much as I love some of his ideas, you see that guy and Hillary and they're bickering back and forth during these debates.

02:19:24.000 That's so unbecoming of someone who's supposed to be the president.

02:19:28.000 The leader, yeah.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, especially a dude who's in his 60s and some lady, you know, she covers everything except the very top of her neck. 1.00

02:19:36.000 I mean, it's bizarre.

02:19:38.000 It's bizarre.

02:19:39.000 Like, you're supposed to be further along in this crazy journey than us.

02:19:43.000 If you want to be the president, you should be so far ahead that you have some lessons that you can impart upon the rest of us.

02:19:49.000 You have some ideas about how we can improve our policies.

02:19:52.000 You have some ideas on what laws that we can establish that would probably be better to protect us from greed and from evil corporations and from people that are raping the world of all its natural resources.

02:20:03.000 All those ideas.

02:20:04.000 Well, the thing is the really smart people, Joe, they have other ways to control and fucking rule the planet.

02:20:09.000 You know, like, I don't think the president is actually the most powerful person.

02:20:13.000 You're going Illuminati on me right now, bro.

02:20:15.000 I think so.

02:20:15.000 Do you believe in the Illuminati?

02:20:17.000 Not Illuminati, but I just think that, I mean, for some of these people, like Michael Bloomberg, why would Bloomberg run?

02:20:24.000 Bloomberg can already fucking call shots from where he's at.

02:20:26.000 He has more money than fucking anybody.

02:20:28.000 Well, maybe he feels like the system is broken and he's in a situation to give his life meaning and maybe enhance the lives of other people by helping.

02:20:38.000 I don't know, because I don't know him.

02:20:39.000 I'm not even familiar with him, but I'm just playing devil's advocate.

02:20:43.000 Yeah.

02:20:43.000 Devil's advocate would say that, I mean, if you have all that money and you have all that freedom, why wouldn't you try to make the world a little bit of a better place?

02:20:50.000 Yeah, I agree, but I think that they can do it in a different way.

02:20:54.000 I mean, look, the Koch brothers, I mean, they're using their means to mold the world the way they see it.

02:21:01.000 I think the people who really have power, they're like looking at the president and say, that guy's a puppet, you know?

02:21:06.000 Well, it's definitely been shown to be a puppet more than once.

02:21:10.000 Yeah.

02:21:10.000 More than one different administration has been shown to be completely at the influence of the people that got him in the office in the first place.

02:21:16.000 Yeah.

02:21:17.000 It's all disappointing, you know?

02:21:18.000 Yeah.

02:21:18.000 And that would all be wiped out if the Anunnaki showed up on a gigantic gold disc, came out levitating, telling us how stupid we are.

02:21:26.000 We need the Anunnaki to come fucking save us. 1.00

02:21:28.000 Do you think so?

02:21:28.000 But we're gonna be that someday.

02:21:29.000 That's my thought.

02:21:30.000 Captain Save-A-Ho.

02:21:31.000 Save these.

02:21:32.000 Save these hoes. 1.00

02:21:33.000 Well, yeah, they would totally be Captain Save-A-Ho.

02:21:36.000 The rest of the other aliens would be like, Bitch, what are you doing? 1.00

02:21:38.000 Get the fuck off Earth.

02:21:39.000 Are you going to Earth?

02:21:41.000 This planet of heroin addicts.

02:21:43.000 Have you not watched TV? Have you not gone on Earth and look at the YouTube comments?

02:21:46.000 They're fucking savages.

02:21:48.000 Get out of there, man.

02:21:49.000 They're going to eat you and fuck you. 1.00

02:21:50.000 And not necessarily in that order.

02:21:55.000 They're gonna come on your tits, bro. 1.00

02:21:57.000 Dude, run! 0.97

02:21:58.000 They're gonna come on your grandma's tits. 1.00

02:22:00.000 Get out! 0.98

02:22:01.000 Get out of that planet!

02:22:02.000 If someone could be the first person to fuck an Anunnaki, that would be a contest. 1.00

02:22:07.000 That'd be a radio contest. 0.95

02:22:08.000 I feel like if it was between humans and Anunnaki, it's not a human fucking Anunnaki. 1.00

02:22:12.000 It would be the Anunnaki fucking the human. 1.00

02:22:14.000 You say that, but what if it's a really smart, clever, crafty person and an Anunnaki that's been getting $30,000 a year and really doesn't have any motivation and they're weak. 1.00

02:22:25.000 I think even the shittiest Anunnaki is going to fuck a human through a wall. 1.00

02:22:28.000 You say that.

02:22:29.000 Through that brick wall.

02:22:31.000 You say that, but take one of the dumbest people today and put them in a room with one of the smartest people from ancient Rome and who would be running shit.

02:22:40.000 Smarter student from ancient Rome.

02:22:42.000 Yeah.

02:22:42.000 Right?

02:22:43.000 Yeah.

02:22:43.000 Well, don't you think that would be the case as far as advanced intelligence?

02:22:46.000 If you get a really dumb...

02:22:48.000 I mean, unless they figured out a way to eliminate stupidity, which it seems like you're always going to have conflict and resolution.

02:22:55.000 That seems like what the universe is supposed to be all about.

02:22:57.000 The universe is about problems and solutions for those problems, and that's how things advance.

02:23:02.000 And that's what the universe of thought is in this world.

02:23:06.000 It's always constant conflict and Resolution of that conflict and trying to figure out how to never have this conflict again.

02:23:13.000 What's the best way to get out?

02:23:15.000 Even natural disasters and all these things.

02:23:16.000 There are opportunities to innovate.

02:23:18.000 There are opportunities to figure out, okay, we saw what happened in Fukushima.

02:23:21.000 How do we get power and not have this problem?

02:23:23.000 And what do we do?

02:23:24.000 And then all these minds converge and they try to figure out solutions.

02:23:27.000 I think that's just always going to be the case.

02:23:29.000 I think that's what causes things to improve, is this constant battle.

02:23:35.000 If everything was groovy and perfect, Nothing would get done.

02:23:38.000 Yeah, you have to have struggle.

02:23:40.000 Yeah, there's a dilemma that always has to be addressed.

02:23:43.000 Which is dope.

02:23:44.000 It is dope.

02:23:45.000 Should we end on that?

02:23:46.000 Yeah.

02:23:47.000 I think it's fucking good.

02:23:48.000 It's dope! 0.90

02:23:48.000 Yeah, it's good. 0.90

02:23:49.000 Tell everybody about your show.

02:23:50.000 Where can they get it?

02:23:51.000 When can they get it?

02:23:52.000 And tell everybody about your book.

02:23:53.000 April 28th, Viceland, Wong's World comes out.

02:23:57.000 You're gonna get the Jamaica episode.

02:23:58.000 It's gonna be incredible.

02:23:59.000 The book, Double Cup Love, May 31st.

02:24:02.000 I went back to China with my brothers.

02:24:04.000 Brought a white woman with me. 0.83

02:24:06.000 It's a love story.

02:24:07.000 It's incredible.

02:24:08.000 Eddie Wong!

02:24:10.000 And you can follow Eddie on Twitter.

02:24:13.000 It's Mr. Eddie Wong.

02:24:14.000 And on Instagram, it's the same, right?

02:24:16.000 Same thing.

02:24:16.000 Mr. Eddie Wong.

02:24:17.000 Thanks for having me.

02:24:18.000 My brother, anytime.

02:24:19.000 Best podcast in the world.

02:24:20.000 Oh, my friend.

02:24:21.000 Yes, even on Anunnaki Planet. 0.98

02:24:23.000 I'm sure it's better than any Anunnaki podcast. 1.00

02:24:25.000 I think they might have us beat.

02:24:27.000 Alright, we'll see you guys on Friday, and I'll see you guys tomorrow night, 4.20 in Seattle, two shows at the Moore Theater.

02:24:34.000 Holla! 1.00

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The Joe Rogan Experience - April 19, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #787 - Eddie Huang

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