The Joe Rogan Experience - April 18, 2016


Joe Rogan Experience #786 - Wheeler Walker, Jr.

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Joe Rogan
Guests
Wheeler Walker Jr.
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Sturgill Simpson Jamie Larry Flint Jerry Falwell Johnny Cash Wheeler Walker Jr. Howard Stern Coachella Shooter Jennings Honey Honey Dave Cobb Jay Leno Anthony Elvis Opie Graham Hancock Richard Pryor Benny Thompson Paul Stanley Led Zeppelin and 130 more
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2 hours and 24 minutes

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In this episode, we sit down with country music legend Steve Earle. We talk about his early days in Nashville, how he got into country music, and why country music is no longer as popular as it used to be. We also talk about the controversy surrounding Coachella, and how he almost got kicked out of the music festival because of his music. We also discuss how he went from being banned from Walmart to becoming one of the most successful country artists of all time. And we talk about why he decided to make a country music album that's a little edgier than most other country albums out there. It's a jam-packed episode that you don't want to miss. If you're a fan of the Foo Fighters, you'll love this one! And if you're not, you should definitely listen to this one. It's an absolute must-listen to this episode of the podcast! Enjoy, enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about this episode! -The 500 is a production of Native Creative Podcasts. Please rate, review, and tell us what you think of it in the comments section below! We'd love to hear your thoughts, opinions, thoughts, and thoughts on any of your favorite country music artists, songs, or anything else you've heard on the 500. Thank you for listening to the 500! Logo by Native Creative. - CC BY CC BY CREATE YOUR OWN PODCAST! and we'll get a shoutout on the next episode of NUDEFINDS coming soon! (featuring some of our favorite artists from the 500FM radio show, The 500FM crew) and more! CHECK OUT OUR FACEBOOK GROUP AND INSTAGRAM AND TWITTER! CRY AND SOCIAL MEDIA! Subscribe to our new WEBSITE! AND SUBSCRIPSYCLYNN GOOGLE CHALLENGE AND INSTA-LYNN BONUS EPISODE! .COM AND OTHER LINKS AND PODCYO CHAT WITH MEET THE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO OUR INSTA AND OTHER THAN THAT'SOME OF OUR PODGS AND OTHER SOCIETY AND LINKS! AND OTHER PLATINTS! & MORE! FREE MONEY CHAT AND OTHER MEETING INSTA FRIENDS IN OUR SOCIALS AND GOT A PRODCAST?

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00:00:01.000 You know what?
00:00:02.000 Are we live?
00:00:03.000 Yeah.
00:00:04.000 Right now we're live?
00:00:05.000 Probably cost a shitload of money.
00:00:07.000 We're trying to figure, like, Riders on the Storm.
00:00:10.000 Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom.
00:00:12.000 I think that would be the best way to open a podcast ever.
00:00:15.000 Too much though, right?
00:00:16.000 I'll talk to some people.
00:00:19.000 Wheeler, Walker, Jr. Hey, are we on camera?
00:00:23.000 We're on camera, the whole deal.
00:00:24.000 How do I look? 0.99
00:00:24.000 You look fucking fantastic. 0.99
00:00:26.000 Let me show some more. 1.00
00:00:27.000 I found out about you through our mutual friend who turned me on to eatin' pussy and kickin' ass, and I was a fan right away. 1.00
00:00:34.000 Instantly. 1.00
00:00:34.000 Thanks, man. 1.00
00:00:34.000 Are we on? 1.00
00:00:35.000 We're on.
00:00:36.000 This is real.
00:00:37.000 This is 100% legit. 0.99
00:00:38.000 Yeah, I love the show, and I'm out here fucking... 0.98
00:00:42.000 I'm not making this up. 0.97
00:00:43.000 We bought tickets for this weekend because we were going to do...
00:00:48.000 Coachella.
00:00:49.000 Too risque, they said. 1.00
00:00:51.000 The goal was we were going to do it, and they said it was too fucking X-rated, we can't fuck. 1.00
00:00:54.000 Which was fucking bullshit to me, man. 1.00
00:00:56.000 You're too risque for Coachella? 1.00
00:00:58.000 I thought Coachella was all about taking ecstasy. 1.00
00:01:00.000 That's what I fucking thought. 0.95
00:01:02.000 You know, it's just, I don't know. 0.99
00:01:03.000 Maybe that's their excuse, they just don't want me.
00:01:05.000 It could have been the nice way of saying...
00:01:07.000 Let's just go over the playlist and perhaps we'll see where the hitches might be. 1.00
00:01:10.000 I think I may be with them. 0.98
00:01:12.000 Redneck Shit, I don't have any problem with that. 1.00
00:01:14.000 That's easy. 0.99
00:01:15.000 That's the name of the album.
00:01:16.000 That's easy.
00:01:16.000 We're banned from Walmart, by the way.
00:01:18.000 Well, that's a plus.
00:01:20.000 Beer, Weed, Cooches.
00:01:22.000 That's fine.
00:01:23.000 Family Tree, totally fine.
00:01:24.000 That's the dirtiest one, though.
00:01:25.000 Oh, really? 1.00
00:01:26.000 Can't fuck you off my mind. 1.00
00:01:28.000 Things start getting a little edgy. 1.00
00:01:30.000 Fuck you, bitch. 1.00
00:01:31.000 That's the ballad. 1.00
00:01:32.000 Drop a mouth, that's easy. 1.00
00:01:33.000 Eatin' pussy, kickin' ass, my favorite. 1.00
00:01:35.000 Fightin' fuckin' fartin'. 1.00
00:01:37.000 That's fun. 1.00
00:01:38.000 Better off beatin' off. 0.92
00:01:40.000 Sit on my face and then the coup de gras. 1.00
00:01:42.000 Which one of you queers is going to suck my dick? 1.00
00:01:45.000 Hey man, shit happens. 1.00
00:01:48.000 You go black out and head to a bar? 0.99
00:01:51.000 Well, the problem is the titles are actually way quicker than the song.
00:01:55.000 I mean, here's honestly what happened.
00:01:57.000 So I went to my buddy Dave Cobb, he's a producer there.
00:02:01.000 I actually met him through your buddy Sturgill.
00:02:03.000 Actually, I didn't really meet him, but there's a bunch of articles that said Sturgill introduced me to him, so I'm just going with it.
00:02:09.000 Why not?
00:02:10.000 It's already a narrative.
00:02:12.000 Yeah, it helps.
00:02:16.000 And I'd kind of been kicking around Nashville for about 15 years or so and with no success at all. 0.98
00:02:21.000 I mean, just bullshit. 1.00
00:02:22.000 And I'd had my ass kicked, my dick in the dirt, as they say. 1.00
00:02:27.000 And then I was like, fuck it, this is going to be my last record. 1.00
00:02:30.000 I was like, I'm going to, whatever they call it, drop the mic, put out a really fucking dirty-ass record. 1.00
00:02:35.000 The record I always wanted to make. 0.99
00:02:37.000 And not pull any punches.
00:02:38.000 I was going to just pay for it myself, own it myself.
00:02:40.000 And I had a feeling this was going to get me banned from Nashville. 0.98
00:02:44.000 And then I'd just leave because I'm fucking broke. 1.00
00:02:46.000 So we made this fucking dirty record. 1.00
00:02:51.000 And it's probably about as dirty. 1.00
00:02:53.000 And it wasn't even like I want to make the dirtiest country record. 1.00
00:02:56.000 It was just like, what's happened now in Nashville, because it's turned into such fucking bullshit, is... 1.00
00:03:03.000 Well, money's happened, right? 0.99
00:03:05.000 Well, what's happened is country radio is no longer country music.
00:03:09.000 What is it?
00:03:10.000 It's... 1.00
00:03:11.000 And I didn't know this any more than you because I don't listen to that dog shit. 0.99
00:03:15.000 But I actually heard the best explanation for it the other day. 0.99
00:03:19.000 Steve Earle, who's a hero of mine, he was on this Chris Shifflett podcast.
00:03:24.000 I don't know if you know who he is.
00:03:25.000 He's a guitar player for Foo Fighters.
00:03:26.000 There's a good podcast where he interviews a country musician.
00:03:28.000 He loves country.
00:03:29.000 Oh, wow.
00:03:30.000 And Steve Earle goes...
00:03:33.000 You could hear him.
00:03:34.000 He's kind of talking around.
00:03:35.000 He goes, country today, you know, mainstream corporate country is...
00:03:41.000 He goes, it's rap music for people.
00:03:44.000 And he pauses.
00:03:45.000 He's like, it's rap music for people.
00:03:46.000 And you keep hearing him pause.
00:03:48.000 He's like, is he going to say it? 0.97
00:03:49.000 He goes, it's rap music for people who are scared of black people. 0.97
00:03:54.000 LAUGHTER And he's not saying as a joke, but I started listening. 0.99
00:03:58.000 He's absolutely fucking 100% right. 0.94
00:04:00.000 Did Luke Bryan do like a duet with a rapper? 0.96
00:04:03.000 They all do that.
00:04:04.000 You know what it is?
00:04:05.000 It's like beats from... 0.99
00:04:06.000 You know, you said you don't some hip-hop and shit. 0.99
00:04:09.000 This is... 0.99
00:04:09.000 Jamie's big on the hip-hop. 0.99
00:04:10.000 Yeah, you like...
00:04:11.000 It's beats from...
00:04:12.000 But the thing is, here's my thing.
00:04:13.000 If you were making...
00:04:16.000 Good sounding.
00:04:17.000 Like, it's beats from the 80s.
00:04:18.000 Really soft.
00:04:19.000 Guy with a baseball hat. 1.00
00:04:21.000 Singing about trucks and beers and dog shit like that. 1.00
00:04:23.000 The river? 1.00
00:04:24.000 Gotta go to the river?
00:04:25.000 Exactly.
00:04:25.000 Yeah.
00:04:26.000 No, it's just...
00:04:26.000 Have you ever seen that compilation?
00:04:29.000 What's that?
00:04:30.000 It's a compilation they put on all these different musicians singing the exact same thing.
00:04:33.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:04:35.000 I've heard a lot of this one compilation of country artists.
00:04:38.000 It's just the same song.
00:04:39.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
00:04:41.000 It's a compilation.
00:04:41.000 They're all talking about being by the river, your tight blue jeans.
00:04:45.000 There's all these different things that they just repeat.
00:04:47.000 I mean, it's disgusting, really, is what it is.
00:04:50.000 It's weird.
00:04:51.000 Another thing, too, is I listen to N.W.A. I listen to Public Enemy.
00:04:54.000 I listen to, you know, Ghetto Boys. 0.82
00:04:57.000 Like, I don't need to hear white boy rap.
00:05:00.000 I'll listen to all kinds of music. 1.00
00:05:02.000 If I want to listen to rap, I'll listen to fucking rap. 0.99
00:05:04.000 Right. 0.99
00:05:04.000 So I went in the studio, and I'm like, I want to make some real fucking country music. 0.99
00:05:09.000 And at the time, I didn't know what had happened. 0.98
00:05:11.000 You know, I'm in Nashville, but I'm in my house. 0.99
00:05:14.000 I don't know what the fuck's going on. 0.99
00:05:15.000 So I... Whenever I write a song, like, my first instinct is just not to censor it, you know? 0.98
00:05:22.000 Why would you?
00:05:23.000 Right. 1.00
00:05:24.000 And I start playing in the studio, and they're like, this guy motherfucker's going... 0.99
00:05:27.000 I mean, I'm fisting chicks and going, you know, guys blowing each other and uncles, you know... 1.00
00:05:33.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass had me literally, like, cry and laugh. 1.00
00:05:36.000 Well, that's probably the cleanest song. 1.00
00:05:38.000 It's a funny song, though, man.
00:05:39.000 It's very funny.
00:05:40.000 We were listening to playback... 1.00
00:05:43.000 And I go, we listen to Fuck You Bitch, which is, I was going to say the hit. 1.00
00:05:45.000 I've heard that one too, that's a hit. 1.00
00:05:47.000 That's the hit, if you can call it a hit.
00:05:49.000 It took me a second to realize that was also you, because I saw the first one from the Ben Hoffman show. 1.00
00:05:55.000 Yeah, fuck that dude. 1.00
00:05:56.000 You don't like Ben Hoffman? 1.00
00:05:58.000 No, he talked me into doing his fucking... 0.99
00:05:59.000 He had a show on Comedy Central. 0.99
00:06:03.000 As the saying goes, I was sick that week, so I didn't get to see it. 0.99
00:06:05.000 It was fucking cancelled. 1.00
00:06:06.000 It wasn't funny, and the dude just came off kind of like a cocksucker. 1.00
00:06:10.000 Wow! 1.00
00:06:11.000 Strong words.
00:06:12.000 You guys could be brothers.
00:06:13.000 You look exactly alike.
00:06:14.000 You look like... 0.55
00:06:15.000 Real similar.
00:06:16.000 I don't think so.
00:06:17.000 But whatever.
00:06:17.000 Each to his own.
00:06:19.000 Dude, I'm half blind.
00:06:21.000 Okay, that's cool.
00:06:22.000 I was gonna say, I don't...
00:06:22.000 I wear glasses now.
00:06:24.000 Um...
00:06:25.000 So I did that thing, and then, you know, I think that's where maybe Cobb or, you know, because I knew Sturgill back in Kentucky.
00:06:32.000 Anyway, the point, I'm all over the place.
00:06:33.000 Well, it just started getting around.
00:06:35.000 What was interesting to me was it started getting around through no, like, big promotion, just people passing it on.
00:06:41.000 Someone would find out about it, they'd send it to this guy, and he would send it to his friends, and that's how I got it.
00:06:46.000 It might have been Sturgill to send it to me.
00:06:48.000 It's very possible, because what happened was... 1.00
00:06:51.000 And kind of the main point was I was in the studio, back to what we were talking about, and I'm listening to playback to Fuck You Bitch. 1.00
00:06:57.000 And I go, man, this is so pretty. 1.00
00:06:58.000 If I made it clean, you know, like Love You Girl, you know, whatever.
00:07:01.000 I go, this could get played on the radio.
00:07:03.000 And they look at me like I'm crazy.
00:07:04.000 And they go, this ain't getting played on the radio.
00:07:08.000 I go, why not?
00:07:08.000 They go, because it's real country music, and they don't play that on the radio anymore.
00:07:12.000 Then I go, if I can get banned for playing real country, why not just fucking... 0.98
00:07:18.000 Not censor myself at all and do it fucking x-ray. 0.99
00:07:20.000 So that's what kind of convinced me just to do it my fucking way, you know? 0.98
00:07:25.000 So as someone who is a country music artist and is a fan of country music, and we talked about country music before the show started, you've got to be some hope that these guys like Shooter Jennings and Sturgill, there's these new guys that are coming up that are really fucking talented. 0.97
00:07:40.000 That's the only hope.
00:07:41.000 Well, I mean, really, what's happening?
00:07:45.000 Here's my thing, and I've gotten a lot of...
00:07:47.000 I mean, all the kind of mainstream... 0.98
00:07:48.000 It's not fucking around. 0.82
00:07:49.000 I mean, like, Music Row ain't happy that my album... 0.96
00:07:52.000 It was Grammy week when my album came out, like, eight weeks ago.
00:07:55.000 And I out...
00:07:56.000 My album debuted at number nine on the Billboard country charts.
00:08:00.000 That is hilarious. 0.98
00:08:01.000 Outsold people who were on the fucking Grammys. 0.99
00:08:04.000 And I'm just... 1.00
00:08:05.000 That's from a fucking few... 0.98
00:08:06.000 And I ain't got no Twitter followers. 1.00
00:08:08.000 I don't even know how to use that shit. 0.99
00:08:09.000 Facebook and, you know... 1.00
00:08:11.000 I signed up for Snapchat hoping to get a bunch of tits, because they said that's where the tits come in. 1.00
00:08:16.000 Snapchat's where the tits come in. 1.00
00:08:17.000 Yeah, I've gotten about- Stay off of Snapchat, Jamie. 1.00
00:08:19.000 I've gotten 25,000 dicks. 0.99
00:08:21.000 Tits? 1.00
00:08:21.000 No, I got nothing but dicks and nuts, and I've gotten like four of the nastiest tits you've ever seen. 1.00
00:08:27.000 Well, men are disgusting, so men take chances. 1.00
00:08:29.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I appreciate- So if a guy's a gay guy, and you got all these songs about gay guys sucking dicks, they're like, I can get this guy. 1.00
00:08:33.000 Well, the thing, they're not even doing- These aren't gay guys. 1.00
00:08:36.000 These are guys who are just like, I love your album, I want to show you my fucking nuts. 0.99
00:08:39.000 Oh. 1.00
00:08:40.000 And I'm like, I guess I appreciate it, but did someone send me some fucking tits already? 1.00
00:08:44.000 Yeah, well, I think they're coming today. 0.99
00:08:46.000 Today, people are going to send you them.
00:08:47.000 They're not even going to be theirs.
00:08:48.000 You're going to get some fake accounts.
00:08:50.000 You're going to get fished.
00:08:52.000 What's it called?
00:08:52.000 Not fished.
00:08:53.000 Catfished?
00:08:53.000 Catfished.
00:08:54.000 You're going to get catfished.
00:08:55.000 If anyone's up for getting catfished, it's old Wheeler Walker Jr. I'll show up with my fucking pants down, ready for it. 1.00
00:09:02.000 I'll buy anything. 0.99
00:09:04.000 Well, what's funny about you and this whole thing is that no one had to give you the green light to do this. 1.00
00:09:09.000 What I love about it is that you decided to take a chance, spend your own money, hire legit musicians, put it together yourself, and you're like, fuck it. 0.99
00:09:16.000 Either I'm gonna go down in flames, or this is gonna take off. 0.99
00:09:21.000 And, dude, I hear about you all the time now.
00:09:24.000 Like, I don't know if you know what's happening, but there's like this wave of people who are finding out about you across the country.
00:09:29.000 The answer is, I didn't know.
00:09:33.000 I mean, I put out the album, and then I got a call, like I said, about, you know, that it's on the Billboard. 0.98
00:09:39.000 I thought it was a fucking joke. 0.96
00:09:40.000 And then they said, I gotta go on tour. 0.99
00:09:43.000 And I said, I'm no spring chicken, man. 0.99
00:09:46.000 I ain't sitting in a fucking van and playing empty clubs. 0.99
00:09:48.000 And I said, call me back when we got offers. 0.99
00:09:51.000 And they started getting off, like...
00:09:53.000 Can I make my official work?
00:09:55.000 Jamie, pull up that email.
00:09:56.000 We're doing a tour.
00:09:57.000 I'm announcing it right now.
00:09:59.000 And I got talked into.
00:10:00.000 There's people buying, I guess, they want to buy tickets.
00:10:05.000 Nobody would have ever let you do this ten years ago.
00:10:08.000 You could have never done this.
00:10:08.000 That's so funny because, you know, obviously a thing, you know.
00:10:12.000 Here we go.
00:10:12.000 Bam.
00:10:13.000 Oh, shit. 1.00
00:10:14.000 Full tour, son. 1.00
00:10:15.000 I'm not even kidding.
00:10:16.000 Some of these is the first time I've seen it.
00:10:18.000 Okay, so go to wheelerwalkerjr.com forward slash tour, and all these are on air.
00:10:23.000 You're doing some serious places, man.
00:10:25.000 You're doing some pretty big theaters.
00:10:26.000 So tell me, some of these are like House of Blues.
00:10:29.000 Yeah, these are several thousand people.
00:10:31.000 House of Blues, I mean, they play everything but the blues, but those are big rooms. 0.96
00:10:35.000 How the fuck am I going to sell that out? 0.94
00:10:36.000 I don't know, dude. 0.98
00:10:37.000 I guess that's what I'm here for.
00:10:38.000 I guess that's what you're here for.
00:10:39.000 But yeah, you're doing The Independent in San Francisco?
00:10:42.000 Is that a good place?
00:10:43.000 Yeah, it's a very nice place. 1.00
00:10:44.000 Yeah, motherfucker. 0.99
00:10:45.000 You're doing some good spots. 1.00
00:10:46.000 The Fillmore in Philadelphia?
00:10:48.000 That's a great theater.
00:10:49.000 Oh, no way.
00:10:50.000 Yeah.
00:10:51.000 Bam, son, look at you.
00:10:53.000 That's hilarious.
00:10:54.000 How long ago did the album come out?
00:10:55.000 Been about eight weeks. 0.89
00:10:58.000 So, listen, I don't know what the fuck's going on, but here's... 0.98
00:11:02.000 That's awesome. 0.98
00:11:03.000 I guess...
00:11:03.000 So I went in there, like this guy Dave Cobb, who just won the Grammy of the...
00:11:10.000 What's it?
00:11:11.000 Grammy for Country Producer of the Year.
00:11:13.000 Okay.
00:11:13.000 And he did Sturgill's first two records.
00:11:15.000 And I knew Sturgill a little bit back in Kentucky.
00:11:18.000 And he introduced me.
00:11:19.000 He's like, just give me... 1.00
00:11:20.000 I was like, I want to own this shit. 0.99
00:11:22.000 You know, I don't want anyone to own it. 1.00
00:11:23.000 Because they're going to fuck with it. 0.99
00:11:25.000 Right. 1.00
00:11:26.000 So I just gave him the...
00:11:27.000 Like, literally emptied out my bank account.
00:11:29.000 Gave Dave the money.
00:11:30.000 All these...
00:11:31.000 Kind of the best musicians.
00:11:32.000 It was actually a lot of shooters...
00:11:35.000 The guys from Shooter's First Band, who now are in Nashville. 0.98
00:11:38.000 So it's like these killer players, who I think are the best players in Nashville, but they're not like Nashville's go-to, you know, not like the guys that these pop dog shit guys go to. 0.77
00:11:48.000 And it's the guys who played on Sturgill's first record. 0.92
00:11:51.000 And these guys, Leroy Powell, Chris Powell, Brian Allen, give them a shot.
00:11:55.000 Real great musicians. 0.99
00:11:56.000 Great fucking musicians. 1.00
00:11:57.000 There's some live versions that they did. 1.00
00:11:58.000 They did, you can have the Crown live, some radio station thing.
00:12:02.000 With just a very small group of them and you get to see like how good the actual talent is. 0.99
00:12:08.000 Sturgill's got a different band now that again, I mean fuck Sturgill's band now is fucking is killer. 0.98
00:12:14.000 I mean his music is so hard to pin down. 0.98
00:12:16.000 It's funny too because you know we had a bit of a we had a falling out recently and I'm you couldn't find a bigger Sturgill fan than me. 0.95
00:12:25.000 I just listen to his record on the way over here and it's a fucking masterpiece, but he also won't fucking talk to me right now. 0.88
00:12:31.000 What happened? 0.97
00:12:32.000 Well, here's the thing.
00:12:34.000 I don't even mind talking about it, right?
00:12:37.000 In an interview, I said that he was...
00:12:40.000 But this is honestly what I believe.
00:12:42.000 I think he is... 0.98
00:12:44.000 And you're going to laugh when I say it, but I swear this is what I fucking believe. 0.99
00:12:49.000 I think he's a paid CIA assassin. 0.98
00:12:53.000 I'll just let that sink in for a second. 1.00
00:12:56.000 I think he's taking motherfuckers out. 0.99
00:12:57.000 And I confronted him about it. 0.99
00:12:59.000 Where did you get this information?
00:13:02.000 A YouTube video?
00:13:03.000 No, no, no.
00:13:04.000 See, like I said, I knew him back in Kentucky. 1.00
00:13:08.000 And this fucker goes to the Navy, right? 1.00
00:13:11.000 Right, that's true. 1.00
00:13:13.000 He works for the government.
00:13:15.000 Imagine being in the Navy, and you look next to you, and some guy just picks up a guitar and starts singing.
00:13:21.000 And it's Sturgill Simpson.
00:13:22.000 Imagine that.
00:13:22.000 Right.
00:13:23.000 There's no fucking way. 0.98
00:13:24.000 Like, the greatest singer, guitarist, one of the best ones in the world right now. 0.99
00:13:28.000 Would you agree with that?
00:13:29.000 Oh, for sure. 1.00
00:13:29.000 He's just sitting next to you on a fucking boat. 1.00
00:13:31.000 Right. 1.00
00:13:31.000 And he decides, you know what? 1.00
00:13:32.000 I want to leave the Navy.
00:13:33.000 Well, he was young.
00:13:34.000 But I'm saying, you can't just quit the Navy.
00:13:38.000 Well, you do your term, you know?
00:13:39.000 He didn't do his term. 0.99
00:13:40.000 He fucking left. 0.99
00:13:41.000 Really? 1.00
00:13:42.000 So he owes the government.
00:13:42.000 How long did he go?
00:13:44.000 I don't know the fuck. 0.98
00:13:45.000 Listen, all my facts aren't together. 0.99
00:13:47.000 I'm gonna lie to you.
00:13:48.000 But he leaves...
00:13:49.000 Can you do that?
00:13:50.000 I thought you...
00:13:50.000 That's like you go AWOL. He didn't go AWOL. He's fucked...
00:13:53.000 So why is he... 1.00
00:13:53.000 I'm saying, why is he fucking out? 1.00
00:13:55.000 Oh. 0.99
00:13:55.000 Well, you should talk to Alex Jones about this. 0.99
00:13:57.000 Well, no, but I'm telling...
00:13:58.000 No, I don't need to talk to him.
00:14:00.000 I got the answers.
00:14:00.000 Okay.
00:14:00.000 He leaves, right?
00:14:02.000 Right.
00:14:02.000 Now...
00:14:05.000 All of a sudden, out of nowhere, he just puts out the fucking record. 1.00
00:14:07.000 So if you're in the government, you want to take some fuckers out. 1.00
00:14:11.000 Right. 1.00
00:14:12.000 Put their dick in the dirt, like I'm saying. 1.00
00:14:13.000 Take those motherfuckers down. 1.00
00:14:15.000 What's the best way to do it? 1.00
00:14:17.000 And this has been done before by some other Hollywood stars. 0.79
00:14:20.000 You get the best country music artist alive, and you get them to kill people for you.
00:14:25.000 Well, yeah, as a front, but who travels the most?
00:14:27.000 Country music artist. 0.98
00:14:28.000 Yeah, and you've got to have him legit, because he's got to go fucking play, right? 0.96
00:14:31.000 Check out Sturgill's tour. 0.93
00:14:32.000 Now, here's what I'm going to say right now.
00:14:34.000 I know you're laughing at me.
00:14:35.000 I see you both laughing at me. 1.00
00:14:36.000 But this motherfucker has toured Europe fucking ten times. 1.00
00:14:41.000 He's toured England ten times. 1.00
00:14:43.000 You ever heard a...
00:14:44.000 Who's your favorite country music artist from England? 1.00
00:14:46.000 They don't listen to fucking country music. 0.99
00:14:48.000 They do listen to it, though. 1.00
00:14:49.000 They don't play and listen to it. 1.00
00:14:50.000 He's going over there fucking killing people. 1.00
00:14:53.000 But this fucker's gone to... 1.00
00:14:54.000 How many times... 1.00
00:14:56.000 A lot.
00:14:57.000 Yeah?
00:14:57.000 You ever met a Japanese guy and you go, who's your favorite country artist?
00:15:00.000 They don't go, you know... 1.00
00:15:02.000 They don't listen to that shit. 1.00
00:15:05.000 He's over there taking motherfuckers out. 1.00
00:15:07.000 You go down his tour list and you check it with the papers of enemies of the state who've been taken out. 1.00
00:15:13.000 That shit fucking lines up. 1.00
00:15:14.000 Does it? 1.00
00:15:16.000 I think it...
00:15:16.000 I wasn't...
00:15:17.000 The specifics, I can't...
00:15:18.000 Anyway, I got a little stoned and I thought this was what happened.
00:15:22.000 And I should have asked him about it, which is true.
00:15:25.000 But...
00:15:26.000 So he just started accusing him of being a CIA assassin?
00:15:28.000 Well, I should have done it to his face.
00:15:29.000 I did it on a couple radio shows.
00:15:31.000 And then, and this is probably going to break it open a little bit, but anyway, now he's, he won't, why will he confront me about it?
00:15:39.000 Because it's true.
00:15:40.000 Right.
00:15:40.000 And why is this new album all about him, you heard the record.
00:15:44.000 It's just him talking to his son. 1.00
00:15:45.000 Because he's seeing shit at night. 1.00
00:15:47.000 He's seeing the shit. 1.00
00:15:49.000 Why do you write an album about this serious talk to your child? 1.00
00:15:56.000 Because you've seen shit go down. 1.00
00:15:58.000 You've seen motherfuckers Maybe he just loves his kid. 1.00
00:16:03.000 No one does that. 1.00
00:16:04.000 No, that's not a reason to make a record.
00:16:06.000 He's telling his kids, warning him, don't do what I did.
00:16:09.000 Okay.
00:16:09.000 You know, and he's a hired government assassin, and I'm almost positive about this.
00:16:14.000 Do you worry that he's going to take you out?
00:16:15.000 I lost a friend for it, but I'm also getting the truth out there.
00:16:17.000 What?
00:16:17.000 Don't you worry he's going to take you out for exposing him?
00:16:19.000 That's why I'm talking about it, because now they know if he takes me out.
00:16:23.000 Well, then my story will be true.
00:16:26.000 That's what that guy thought in Russia. 0.99
00:16:27.000 Remember that dude in Russia that was talking shit about Putin? 0.99
00:16:31.000 He was like a political rival to Putin. 0.99
00:16:33.000 And he thought because he was so public, they'd never take him out.
00:16:36.000 They shot him with his girlfriend.
00:16:39.000 While he's with his girlfriend, they shot him in front of a government building. 0.99
00:16:43.000 That doesn't help my fucking anxiety over the story. 0.99
00:16:46.000 Yeah, they'll just get you, dude. 0.99
00:16:48.000 Especially if you go to Russia.
00:16:49.000 Don't tour Russia.
00:16:50.000 I don't know.
00:16:51.000 Well, I mean...
00:16:53.000 Again, my facts aren't like 100% together, but from what I've seen, why wouldn't he talk to me about it then?
00:16:58.000 What would he say?
00:16:59.000 Well, you know, people get testy when you call them killers.
00:17:03.000 They get, you know, they feel bad.
00:17:06.000 I don't know, man.
00:17:07.000 I mean, whatever.
00:17:09.000 I think I'm onto something, but whatever.
00:17:11.000 Anyway, that's the thing about country music.
00:17:13.000 You lose some friends.
00:17:13.000 But him taking apart that I think he's a hired government killer, take that away.
00:17:18.000 Okay, let's take that away.
00:17:20.000 Take that away for the moment.
00:17:21.000 But what you're saying about those guys like Sturgill, it's bringing real country.
00:17:26.000 It's actual country music.
00:17:28.000 He didn't play on the radio either.
00:17:29.000 Jason Isbell, too.
00:17:30.000 That guy, man. 1.00
00:17:31.000 I've been listening to a lot of his shit lately. 1.00
00:17:33.000 He's amazing. 1.00
00:17:34.000 He's fucking great. 0.97
00:17:35.000 Such a good writer, too. 0.99
00:17:36.000 That's the guy, Dave, who did his records.
00:17:39.000 Did it, too.
00:17:40.000 There's a lot of great stuff coming out right now.
00:17:43.000 See, this is the thing, though.
00:17:46.000 It seems that music producers are a lot like television producers. 1.00
00:17:51.000 In that, what they want to do is sell the most shit. 0.98
00:17:54.000 And some of these people, they're not necessarily... 0.99
00:17:58.000 It's not that they're not artists.
00:18:00.000 They're definitely artists.
00:18:01.000 They're creating music, but they're creating music that they specifically want to sell a lot.
00:18:06.000 They want it to hit with people.
00:18:08.000 It's almost like They want to figure out how to press those buttons right.
00:18:12.000 They want to put it in a nice, juicy formula where they can press those buttons right, and they'll sell a lot of units.
00:18:18.000 But a guy like Sturgill or a guy like Shooter Jennings, these guys are not doing that.
00:18:24.000 What they're doing is expressing themselves.
00:18:26.000 And then you get to find out who they actually are. 0.99
00:18:28.000 And it's so much more interesting than the same canned bullshit. 1.00
00:18:31.000 And the same canned bullshit's fine sometimes. 1.00
00:18:33.000 I mean, sometimes I like listening to some stupid pop music song. 1.00
00:18:37.000 Just for the fuck of it, who cares? 1.00
00:18:39.000 It's not the worst thing in the world. 0.99
00:18:40.000 I think that's fine too, but my actual, my even bigger, not even bigger issue, but speaking, like, I like fucking pop music just like you, but the country pop is fucking 20, is 30 years, is, they're trying, I don't mind, like, Sturgill's a good example of someone who's taken Country and moving it forward.
00:18:57.000 These guys aren't, they're adding beats from like the 80s and they're going backwards. 0.92
00:19:01.000 You know, they're trying, I know people who go into studios of major country artists with one of those fucking clicker things and making sure it's the right, it's not made up, making sure it's the right beats per minute.
00:19:11.000 So slow it down, speed up to make sure we get on the radio. 0.90
00:19:13.000 Oh my god. 0.97
00:19:14.000 So My goal with my record, isn't that fucking crazy? 0.97
00:19:17.000 It's weird. 0.95
00:19:19.000 Imagine someone coming in here with one of those clickers that speeded up or slowed down your podcast. 0.99
00:19:24.000 You'd fucking kick them out of the room. 0.98
00:19:25.000 Well, we've talked about this a hundred times. 0.99
00:19:27.000 If we actually had a network or a producer or an executive behind the show, it would have never worked.
00:19:33.000 No one would have never let us do any of this stuff.
00:19:35.000 I would have had arguments with people every day about some of the things we say.
00:19:38.000 Totally.
00:19:39.000 And that's why the podcast is so great and so big.
00:19:41.000 And a lot of these podcasts, you know, it's... 0.99
00:19:45.000 It's the natural reaction when, like, you know, radio turns to shit. 1.00
00:19:50.000 Podcasts had to happen because people were sick of bullshit radio. 1.00
00:19:53.000 And the same thing with country. 0.98
00:19:55.000 Basically, my goal was, I gave them cash.
00:19:58.000 I said, no one's touching this.
00:19:59.000 And I said, I'm going to make the best country record of the year, and I'm going to make it completely unplayable.
00:20:05.000 I don't want it to be able to be played anywhere.
00:20:07.000 So when you're making an album like that, you're literally only listening... 0.96
00:20:10.000 You're not thinking outside the room you're recording in because the assumption was nobody was going to fucking hear it. 0.98
00:20:16.000 Right. 0.96
00:20:16.000 So when you make an album that you assume nobody's going to hear... 0.96
00:20:20.000 Some interesting shit kind of happened. 1.00
00:20:21.000 Yeah, it got fucking dirty. 0.99
00:20:23.000 Don't get me wrong. 0.99
00:20:23.000 I mean, it went fucking x-rated. 0.99
00:20:25.000 But it's fun, man. 0.98
00:20:26.000 It's fun.
00:20:27.000 And what you said was true, too.
00:20:28.000 Like, 20 years ago, 15, 10 years ago, this would have to be sold in the back of a nudie bag.
00:20:33.000 Exactly.
00:20:33.000 It's on iTunes, it's on Amazon...
00:20:35.000 It's not, like I said, it's not Walmart.
00:20:37.000 You had to give it to people and they would have had to start talking about it.
00:20:40.000 And then there was a few, weren't there a few like dirty albums where guys would sing dirty songs back in the day?
00:20:46.000 Yeah, David Allen Coe is the most famous.
00:20:47.000 I actually opened up two shows for David Allen Coe.
00:20:49.000 And he's dirty?
00:20:50.000 No, no.
00:20:51.000 He's a legit country artist.
00:20:52.000 And this is actually a real story.
00:20:53.000 It's interesting.
00:20:55.000 Shel Silverstein was a...
00:20:56.000 The writer.
00:20:57.000 A country...
00:20:58.000 You know, the kids' children's book writer, but he also wrote country music.
00:21:02.000 He wrote Boy Named Sue for Johnny Cash.
00:21:04.000 Somebody told me that.
00:21:04.000 That's true?
00:21:05.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00
00:21:06.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:21:06.000 He's recorded here and there. 0.99
00:21:08.000 So David Allen Coe was playing these really dirty...
00:21:10.000 Wow.
00:21:11.000 These really dirty songs for Shel Silverstein.
00:21:13.000 And he goes... 1.00
00:21:14.000 You gotta record this shit. 1.00
00:21:16.000 And, you know, I got a record label. 1.00
00:21:19.000 I can't, you know, I can't.
00:21:21.000 This is the 70s.
00:21:22.000 I can't record. 0.99
00:21:22.000 I mean, we're talking shit I would. 0.99
00:21:25.000 I mean, like, I consider myself an equal opportunity offender. 0.99
00:21:30.000 And I'm a David Allen Co.
00:21:32.000 fan.
00:21:32.000 I mean, no disrespect.
00:21:33.000 But he's, you know, 70s.
00:21:35.000 And I don't think he's a racist because it comes up a lot.
00:21:37.000 But he uses the N word. 1.00
00:21:38.000 You know, it gives crazy shit. 0.99
00:21:40.000 But he recorded it, obviously, off the radar. 1.00
00:21:44.000 It was sold in the back of Biker Mags.
00:21:47.000 And those albums, they got to me in Kentucky.
00:21:50.000 They'd get around, but it was a different machine behind it.
00:21:53.000 Well, do you remember the Jerky Boys?
00:21:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:55.000 You remember there was a cassette that you would get from people?
00:21:59.000 That's how we all got the Jerky Boys.
00:22:00.000 I remember getting that in Kentucky.
00:22:02.000 Just like, you gotta hear this.
00:22:03.000 Because we all used to do prank calls. 1.00
00:22:04.000 Like, you gotta hear this shit. 0.99
00:22:05.000 I think those guys did that shit all on their own and put the cassette out all on their own. 1.00
00:22:09.000 Didn't they do a movie? 0.99
00:22:10.000 It probably went more mainstream.
00:22:11.000 It went south there.
00:22:13.000 But...
00:22:15.000 But what you're saying is totally right.
00:22:17.000 And now you've got word of mouth times of...
00:22:19.000 That's how you end up on the Billboard charts is when you've got word of mouth plus the internet.
00:22:24.000 Right.
00:22:24.000 Which is, instead of telling ten friends, you're actually telling a thousand friends.
00:22:28.000 And we're out selling, you know...
00:22:30.000 My album came out the same week as a new Winona Judd record.
00:22:34.000 And I sold more copies.
00:22:36.000 And I'm from Kentucky, and I got nothing against the Judds.
00:22:40.000 By the way, I tell you, I got in a Twitter fight with Winona. 1.00
00:22:42.000 Whoa! 0.71
00:22:43.000 For real?
00:22:43.000 Which one's the actress?
00:22:45.000 That's her sister, Ashley. 0.94
00:22:46.000 Okay.
00:22:47.000 Winona looks like two Ashleys put together. 0.99
00:22:50.000 Oh, rude.
00:22:52.000 Yeah, that's not nice of me to say.
00:22:53.000 I don't like these L.A. women, I should say that. 1.00
00:22:55.000 You like them thick?
00:22:56.000 Yeah, I like them big.
00:22:57.000 I like them a little thick.
00:22:58.000 Yeah, I don't like these girls too skinny. 1.00
00:23:01.000 It's like the old days, you know?
00:23:02.000 If you saw a girl that's skinny... 1.00
00:23:03.000 It's not healthy. 1.00
00:23:05.000 Yeah, but it was a sign of, like those fat kings in the old days, you know, that let you know that they had fucking money. 0.97
00:23:12.000 When I see a girl that's skinny, I think they're just using me for food. 1.00
00:23:14.000 I wonder if women think that way.
00:23:16.000 They see a guy who's real thin.
00:23:18.000 Like, do they want a guy with a gut, secretly?
00:23:20.000 They don't want to talk about it?
00:23:21.000 Well, according to what I've seen in L.A., yeah.
00:23:23.000 Just eat what he wants.
00:23:25.000 I mean, these girls look hungry. 1.00
00:23:27.000 There's a lot of hungry girls in LA. They are hungry. 1.00
00:23:29.000 Well, they've been told that they have to be a fucking coat rack in order to be famous. 1.00
00:23:33.000 But guys don't like them. 0.99
00:23:34.000 Well, not only that, man.
00:23:35.000 Watch television in other companies.
00:23:36.000 Like, watch a television show in Columbia. 1.00
00:23:38.000 All the girls have these big, thick-ass legs and big asses and big tits. 1.00
00:23:42.000 They don't look anything like American women. 1.00
00:23:44.000 And that's what fucking we whack off to. 1.00
00:23:46.000 Big sir. 1.00
00:23:48.000 Like, I've never googled skinny chicks on my fucking... 1.00
00:23:53.000 This is not healthy. 0.99
00:23:54.000 I hate to bring it back to me, but I always do.
00:23:56.000 Please do.
00:23:58.000 But it goes to what we're talking about.
00:24:00.000 Doing everything the opposite way.
00:24:03.000 So a lot of these albums nowadays, they'll do a free stream the week before it comes out on NPR or Rolling Stone or wherever it was. 0.99
00:24:12.000 And no one would play my shit. 0.99
00:24:13.000 Of course. 1.00
00:24:14.000 So I go, let's premiere the record on RedTube.
00:24:24.000 No, which one was it?
00:24:26.000 Like a porn site?
00:24:27.000 Yeah.
00:24:28.000 Pornhub was the one I did.
00:24:29.000 Pornhub.
00:24:30.000 I go Pornhub.
00:24:30.000 I go, let's stream that album for free for the first week on Pornhub.
00:24:35.000 Alright?
00:24:36.000 I think maybe...
00:24:37.000 Listen, don't get me wrong.
00:24:38.000 Most people who went to Pornhub that week weren't looking to hear a country music record.
00:24:42.000 Right.
00:24:42.000 But still, you get 1% of that...
00:24:44.000 They were there to whack off.
00:24:45.000 We're done whacking off. 1.00
00:24:45.000 Listen to a good fucking record. 1.00
00:24:47.000 They had ads for my record. 0.99
00:24:48.000 No one's re...
00:24:49.000 It's like...
00:24:49.000 They basically said to me, like, let's just try it out and see what happens.
00:24:52.000 And they were totally fucking cool about it.
00:24:54.000 It's like... 0.83
00:24:55.000 When you're looking for...
00:24:57.000 They're talking about NPR's app.
00:25:00.000 What's that, 10,000 people? 0.99
00:25:02.000 How'd you like to reach every fucking man on earth who whacks off? 1.00
00:25:05.000 Yeah, that sounds interesting to me. 0.99
00:25:07.000 That sounds like an audience I'd like to get in with.
00:25:09.000 Do you ever look at ads when you whack off, though?
00:25:12.000 I don't even know what they are.
00:25:13.000 Here's my theory.
00:25:14.000 I don't even notice them.
00:25:14.000 I go full screen immediately.
00:25:15.000 No, my theory, though, is when my face is up there and you're wack, if you jizz right when you see my face, you ain't forgetting that face for the rest of your fucking life. 0.99
00:25:22.000 That's a good point. 0.95
00:25:23.000 You have a very distinct look, and then if you, like, went to, like, a video that you really enjoyed, and then your face was off to the side of it, it could get confusing. 0.98
00:25:30.000 Well, yeah, it clicked right to the fucking record. 0.99
00:25:32.000 Yeah, that's like some Manchurian candidate type shit. 1.00
00:25:35.000 Yeah, that's how I'm thinking. 0.99
00:25:36.000 I'm thinking Sturgill-like here.
00:25:37.000 Dude, I see what you're saying.
00:25:38.000 Like, you just get in their head.
00:25:39.000 Yeah.
00:25:41.000 I wonder, like, what are the real raw numbers? 0.99
00:25:43.000 Like, how many people jerk off to those porn sites? 0.98
00:25:46.000 Well, I mean, they told me that it was like the... 1.00
00:25:49.000 It has to be insane.
00:25:50.000 It was hundreds of...
00:25:51.000 No, it was literally hundreds of millions of people.
00:25:53.000 Well, they're like, you know... 0.99
00:25:55.000 Isn't that fucking crazy? 0.99
00:25:56.000 What's crazy is it's in the dark. 1.00
00:25:58.000 If there was any other fucking website that had hundreds of millions of hits, we'd be talking about it all the time. 0.99
00:26:02.000 Exactly. 0.99
00:26:03.000 Well, that's the thing.
00:26:04.000 They gave me their numbers and they were just like, they weren't even that, because they know the numbers, so to them it's not a big deal.
00:26:09.000 Do you know how crazy that is?
00:26:10.000 Compare yourself to other sites.
00:26:12.000 What's it like compared to Craigslist was the only thing I said.
00:26:16.000 They go, oh, we're bigger than Craigslist.
00:26:18.000 I go, what about CNN? We're bigger than CNN. They're bigger than all those guys combined.
00:26:22.000 Why the fuck am I the only one thinking to fucking put ads on Pornhub? 0.99
00:26:27.000 And they go, because the corporations won't... 0.99
00:26:29.000 This is back to me paying for it and owning it myself.
00:26:32.000 I go, I can do whatever... 0.99
00:26:33.000 We've asked the movie studios, we've asked the record companies, they won't fucking put ads on our fucking sites. 0.99
00:26:39.000 And I go, I'll fucking do it. 0.99
00:26:41.000 That's hilarious. 0.99
00:26:42.000 And they go, who do you have to talk to to do it?
00:26:45.000 And I go... 1.00
00:26:46.000 You're talking to the fucking guy. 1.00
00:26:47.000 You don't have people. 1.00
00:26:49.000 That's the whole love, the whole great thing about doing this.
00:26:51.000 Let's test it out.
00:26:52.000 But you must have people swooping in on you now. 0.98
00:26:55.000 Because what we were talking about earlier, that Nashville, right now, I don't want to say it like I'm a fucking investigator. 0.95
00:27:00.000 I've been studying Nashville. 0.96
00:27:01.000 Here's my conclusion.
00:27:02.000 I'll bet you know the big picture, though.
00:27:03.000 It's money.
00:27:04.000 It's just like television shows.
00:27:05.000 If you want to watch those terrible two and a half men style television shows, why do you think they're making those things? 0.99
00:27:10.000 Because people are buying them.
00:27:11.000 They're gobbling them up.
00:27:12.000 There's a certain frequency that you can hit when you make like really dull, bland stuff and people like that.
00:27:18.000 There's a lot of people that like that.
00:27:19.000 So they know how to do it and they bang it out.
00:27:21.000 And I think that's what's happening with producers, but it's not what the public wants.
00:27:25.000 And that's why you're getting these shows like Mad Men or Walking Dead or Game of Thrones.
00:27:35.000 You're getting these interesting shows that are so much different than all these formulaic bullshit shows that have been on television forever.
00:27:42.000 Because people are changing.
00:27:43.000 They have to adapt to the fact that people have too many options now. 1.00
00:27:47.000 They don't have to just eat your spoon-fed bullshit. 1.00
00:27:51.000 Totally. 1.00
00:27:52.000 That's just going on with the radio.
00:27:53.000 That's like, you know...
00:27:54.000 Listen, the girl who dumped me... 1.00
00:27:57.000 And I'm telling you, she's not a bitch. 1.00
00:27:59.000 But when she left, in my head, I'm thinking, fuck you. 1.00
00:28:03.000 As any guy would, fuck you bitch. 1.00
00:28:05.000 I go, why do I have to cover up that emotion that I felt after the song for some fucking record label? 1.00
00:28:10.000 So I just sang fuck you bitch. 1.00
00:28:11.000 Of course, everyone, the studio guys are playing drums like, what the fuck's wrong with this dude? 1.00
00:28:15.000 How many hits does that video have on YouTube? 0.87
00:28:16.000 It's something insane.
00:28:17.000 No, it's not that.
00:28:18.000 I mean, we're still at the very beginnings.
00:28:20.000 I mean, what's so crazy is, you know, The amount of records I've sold and these rooms I'm playing, we've still only reached a fret, because, you know...
00:28:28.000 You've been out for eight weeks, man. 0.96
00:28:29.000 Yeah, it's pretty early, but there's this band, Florida Georgia Line, who, by the way, just blocked me on Twitter, because I was talking so much shit about him. 0.88
00:28:34.000 Florida George? 0.91
00:28:35.000 Florida Georgia Line.
00:28:36.000 Florida Georgia Line.
00:28:37.000 They should be called Florida George. 0.89
00:28:38.000 And they're one of the bigger acts in country.
00:28:42.000 And listen, I'm sure they're not... 0.99
00:28:43.000 I heard later they were nice guys after I ripped on them for fucking non-stop for fucking 72 hours. 0.99
00:28:49.000 But... 0.99
00:28:50.000 I don't give two fucks about making fun of this bullshit pop country that I talked about before, so I'll fucking rip on... 1.00
00:28:57.000 Is that pop country? 1.00
00:28:58.000 They have wall chains.
00:28:59.000 I had a wall chain until recently.
00:29:01.000 Okay, listen.
00:29:02.000 You tell me right now those dudes ain't about to jack each other off. 1.00
00:29:05.000 They're trying to get some pussy. 1.00
00:29:06.000 They look good. 1.00
00:29:07.000 They ain't trying to get no fucking pussy. 1.00
00:29:09.000 Hold on, go back to that, Jamie. 1.00
00:29:11.000 That's two guys trying to get pussy? 0.99
00:29:13.000 The guy over his right shoulder, no. 1.00
00:29:15.000 That guy's not getting pussy. 1.00
00:29:16.000 But, in his defense, he might have already gotten some pussy, or he might be in the dick. 1.00
00:29:20.000 Oh, he's in post-pussy mode. 1.00
00:29:21.000 Yeah, he could be like, I just nutted so hard today. 1.00
00:29:23.000 I don't care about fuck. 1.00
00:29:24.000 I just want to eat some Cheetos and take a nap. 1.00
00:29:27.000 That's very possible. 0.99
00:29:29.000 The guy at the right doesn't know what the fuck's going on. 0.84
00:29:30.000 The guy at the far right with the glasses, with the gray shirt, he's just hoping one day it's all going to make sense. 0.98
00:29:35.000 He just wants the checks to cash.
00:29:37.000 Yeah, he's hoping one day it's all gonna make sense, but right now he's baffled.
00:29:40.000 He's like, what is on the radio? 1.00
00:29:41.000 And here's the thing, if it makes people happy and people like this fucking crap... 1.00
00:29:45.000 Hey, easy. 1.00
00:29:46.000 I like their medallions, like the fake soldiers. 0.99
00:29:49.000 I got nothing against it, but I'm also the only fucking dude in Nashville talking shit about him and Sam Hunt, this guy who fucking raps and, you know... 0.99
00:29:56.000 Why does that guy have a dog tag on? 0.99
00:29:58.000 Go back to that, please, Jamie.
00:29:59.000 He's got a diamond-encrusted dog tag.
00:30:02.000 That should be... 1.00
00:30:03.000 That's like some Stolen Valor shit. 0.99
00:30:09.000 I mean, that is the exact opposite of what a fucking dog tag is. 1.00
00:30:14.000 A dog tag is aluminum and it represents a memory of someone who died in the war. 0.99
00:30:19.000 This is a dog tag-shaped diamond-encrusted thing.
00:30:23.000 This is hilarious.
00:30:24.000 Oh, you mean the real dog tags aren't diamond-encrusted?
00:30:26.000 Is that what you're trying to say?
00:30:27.000 That's what I'm trying to say.
00:30:28.000 This is literally like the devil is selling us a band.
00:30:32.000 Yeah, but this is the thing.
00:30:34.000 This is what they're selling.
00:30:35.000 So you wonder why I'm pissing off Music Row.
00:30:37.000 Well, here's a reason. 0.99
00:30:38.000 Because that fucking band has blocked Wheeler Walker Jr. on Twitter. 1.00
00:30:42.000 Well, it's probably someone handling their shit. 1.00
00:30:44.000 Well, whatever it is. 0.99
00:30:45.000 And again, I've heard they're nice enough guys, but there's people writing the music for them.
00:30:50.000 There are people producing it for them.
00:30:51.000 Are you sure?
00:30:52.000 Well, let me just use that message.
00:30:54.000 Let me just say in broader terms. 0.98
00:30:55.000 Listen, the other thing you know is the other reason I think people dig me is because I don't give a fuck if what I'm saying is true or not. 1.00
00:31:01.000 I just say this shit. 1.00
00:31:02.000 But the pop country dog shit that's on country radio with four Georgia lines, Sam Hunt, and all this other shit. 1.00
00:31:08.000 I mean, listen. 1.00
00:31:09.000 I wish I could listen to some of it.
00:31:10.000 I don't know what it sounds like.
00:31:11.000 It sounds like what Steve Earle said.
00:31:14.000 They're handsome guys.
00:31:15.000 They're dreamy.
00:31:15.000 I think you're hating.
00:31:17.000 Fuck yeah, mate. 1.00
00:31:18.000 I'm trying to sell records. 1.00
00:31:19.000 Go back to him, Jamie.
00:31:20.000 Look at the one with the gold bullion.
00:31:22.000 He's got a gold bullion around his neck. 1.00
00:31:24.000 Some shit Columbus took over in the Santa Maria. 1.00
00:31:26.000 Go back to him. 0.99
00:31:28.000 The original picture that you had, Jamie.
00:31:30.000 These guys are beautiful.
00:31:32.000 There he goes.
00:31:32.000 Look at the gold bullion around his neck.
00:31:35.000 Handsome.
00:31:35.000 They look like they'd be wonderful to hang out with.
00:31:37.000 Yeah.
00:31:38.000 And you think those two guys know what it's like to have loved and lost?
00:31:41.000 Those guys have been down that dirt road, sir.
00:31:44.000 They've got their fingers dirty and everything.
00:31:46.000 They have hand sanitizer in their back pocket right now.
00:31:49.000 No, ain't no girl dumping those dudes with gold-crusted medallions. 1.00
00:31:54.000 They dump them. 1.00
00:31:54.000 Girls are crazy. 1.00
00:31:55.000 No way. 1.00
00:31:56.000 They don't even appreciate what's in front of them.
00:31:57.000 They don't even know. 1.00
00:31:58.000 You want to hear some heartbreak, you listen to me, not these two fucking good-looking dudes. 0.98
00:32:04.000 Well, for Heartbreak Music, I would say the dude with the red and black striped shirt is not going to give you what you're looking for. 0.98
00:32:10.000 Yeah, probably not.
00:32:10.000 I think it's just the two dudes.
00:32:12.000 He wishes he was in The Cure, but they're not taking anybody new.
00:32:18.000 You know what's funny?
00:32:19.000 I'll bet the two guys in the front, I'll bet they haven't even met the band.
00:32:22.000 What if they become my favorite band, though? 0.97
00:32:24.000 We're talking all this mad shit, but I haven't listened to their music. 0.95
00:32:27.000 What if we play their music right now, and I'm like, oh my god, I love them. 1.00
00:32:30.000 Fuck it, I'll see you later. 1.00
00:32:31.000 I'll leave, I'll leave right here. 1.00
00:32:33.000 No, play it, can we hear some?
00:32:34.000 Well, I gotta tell you...
00:32:35.000 Oh, you get in trouble, yeah.
00:32:36.000 Yeah, we'll probably get pulled from YouTube, right?
00:32:38.000 How do we do this?
00:32:40.000 You know what?
00:32:41.000 How about this?
00:32:41.000 I can play a little bit.
00:32:43.000 You can play a little?
00:32:43.000 YouTube can't hear it.
00:32:45.000 Okay, YouTube.
00:32:46.000 Anybody listening to this on YouTube?
00:32:47.000 What's the song?
00:32:48.000 Just tell us what the song is.
00:32:50.000 But the people on the podcast can hear it, right?
00:32:52.000 Is that how it goes?
00:32:53.000 The first one that popped up is called Confession.
00:32:55.000 Jamie might have to do some editing.
00:32:57.000 We're gonna get pulled. 1.00
00:32:59.000 Can't be used in that shit. 1.00
00:33:02.000 It's called Confession. 1.00
00:33:05.000 It's weird.
00:33:06.000 Here we go.
00:33:09.000 Florida Georgia Line.
00:33:11.000 Confession.
00:33:11.000 Seven million views.
00:33:17.000 Now, compare that to Sturgill's.
00:33:19.000 Just keep playing.
00:33:20.000 This guy's keeping it real.
00:33:27.000 Now hear that drum, or whatever that is?
00:33:33.000 Uh, that beat.
00:33:34.000 Is that the beat machine?
00:33:35.000 He's doing the rap.
00:33:35.000 Yeah, he's doing rap.
00:33:36.000 He's rapping.
00:33:39.000 Now you tell me this is country music.
00:33:42.000 Honestly.
00:33:43.000 It's weird.
00:33:43.000 It's pop music.
00:33:45.000 It's like a poppy, hip-hoppy...
00:33:48.000 Yeah, they're doing a lot of hip-hop movements with their hands. 0.99
00:33:51.000 They're stealing from black people. 1.00
00:33:53.000 It's cultural appropriation. 0.99
00:33:54.000 We should end it.
00:33:55.000 We should end... 1.00
00:33:56.000 Listen, white people have never stopped stealing from black people. 1.00
00:33:59.000 They're not going to stop. 1.00
00:34:00.000 They're moving into country music.
00:34:02.000 Was he right, though? 0.96
00:34:04.000 It's rap for people who are scared of black people. 0.99
00:34:06.000 That's 100% rap for people who are scared of black people. 1.00
00:34:09.000 Catch a tune. 0.98
00:34:10.000 It probably sold well, obviously.
00:34:11.000 It did. 0.70
00:34:11.000 Well, it sold a lot fucking more than me, but like I said, I'm the only one who's... 0.70
00:34:15.000 And you were saying people coming at me, which has been happening some, but for the most part, they don't want to piss off the real money makers, so they don't want to be associated with that shit. 0.98
00:34:25.000 It seems like there's a lot of country music that's sort of reinforcing... 0.98
00:34:30.000 A mindset.
00:34:30.000 And it's one of the only music genres that reinforces a mindset.
00:34:35.000 And that mindset is, I'm a simple person, I got a nice truck, I got a good dog, I got a woman, but someone broke my heart, or maybe I love you, maybe I die for you.
00:34:45.000 There's all these really noble and really iconic country music Themes and iconic country music ideas that get pushed in these,
00:35:00.000 and they just get repeated over and over and over again.
00:35:03.000 It's reinforcing the benefits of living in a rural environment. 0.99
00:35:06.000 It's reinforcing being near nature and rivers and shit like that, but it's also reinforcing being dumb. 0.99
00:35:12.000 It's reinforcing, like, it's all God. 0.99
00:35:14.000 You've got to have God involved.
00:35:16.000 There's a lot of God involved. 0.99
00:35:17.000 And there's some of that shit that I listen to where I go, this can't be real. 0.99
00:35:21.000 I don't think Sergio Simpson is a CIA assassin, but I've listened to some country music songs where I go, okay, this is a fucking cyberplot. 1.00
00:35:29.000 This is the government is trying to figure out how to get into people's minds and make them dumber. 0.97
00:35:33.000 Well, the other thing, too, is as a guy from, and I'm with you 100%, it feels like it was made to brainwash us. 0.94
00:35:41.000 It's a psyops.
00:35:43.000 Is that what they call those things? 1.00
00:35:44.000 The government's just created super popular music that enforces the idea of being stupid. 1.00
00:35:49.000 Totally. 1.00
00:35:50.000 But also, as a guy from Kentucky, I grew up in Kentucky, most of my family's from Tennessee, and it makes me look like a fucking dumbass, that this is not what the South is. 0.99
00:35:58.000 I got a lot of really... 0.98
00:35:59.000 All my friends are from the South.
00:36:01.000 Yeah, the South's great, man.
00:36:02.000 I love performing in the South. 0.97
00:36:04.000 It's the fucking greatest, but you see this, and that's what... 0.97
00:36:07.000 Not only is it cultural appropriation, it's reinforcing stereotypes. 0.96
00:36:10.000 So I'm going in there and making some real...
00:36:14.000 I'd actually have less of a problem if they just called that pop music.
00:36:17.000 Yeah, it's pop music.
00:36:18.000 Why?
00:36:19.000 Because it's pop music with an accent, and that accent is what makes it country.
00:36:23.000 Totally.
00:36:23.000 But it's also, there's very little bragging.
00:36:27.000 It's not like hip-hop.
00:36:28.000 Hip-hop is a lot about bragging.
00:36:30.000 There's a lot of what I'm going to do to you.
00:36:32.000 It's safe hip-hop, yeah.
00:36:32.000 Yeah.
00:36:33.000 There's a lot of what I'm going to do to you.
00:36:34.000 There's a lot of what I own.
00:36:36.000 What am I going to do to your girl?
00:36:38.000 Yeah, totally.
00:36:40.000 I'm together with you forever.
00:36:42.000 I'm never going to leave you.
00:36:44.000 I appreciate you. 0.99
00:36:45.000 And they're backstage, you know, fucking... 0.99
00:36:47.000 Doing blow, banging guys. 1.00
00:36:49.000 Jacking each other off.
00:36:50.000 Just 69 and spinning in a circle.
00:36:52.000 That's the tweet that got me blocked, I think.
00:36:55.000 Yeah, that'll do it.
00:36:56.000 They're probably not.
00:36:57.000 They're probably nice guys.
00:36:58.000 I heard they were nice guys, but it has nothing...
00:37:00.000 And if they are listening, which they're not, but...
00:37:03.000 It's a great job.
00:37:04.000 I'm sure they're happy.
00:37:05.000 All of them doing great, but it's not them personally.
00:37:07.000 It's just that machine that Nashville's putting out that I'm so against, and I decided that it pisses me off That it's...
00:37:17.000 That country music, which I love so much, and I love...
00:37:20.000 But that's not the stuff we've been talking...
00:37:22.000 You know, my heroes, Waylon and Willie and...
00:37:24.000 Johnny Cash.
00:37:25.000 And Johnny Cash and Merle just passed away.
00:37:26.000 And like the Leuven Brothers, you know...
00:37:28.000 Just passed away.
00:37:30.000 The Leuven Brothers are a band...
00:37:31.000 Do what this country do I used to love, and they're singing about...
00:37:34.000 They have this album, Satan is Real, and it almost looks like a joke, but they're singing...
00:37:37.000 But it's like...
00:37:38.000 But they're serious?
00:37:38.000 But they're serious.
00:37:39.000 Satan is real?
00:37:40.000 But they're real...
00:37:40.000 But they're talking about, you know...
00:37:43.000 The struggle of the devil versus—like, that's interesting to me.
00:37:47.000 Okay, yeah, I know what you're saying.
00:37:48.000 They know—I'm not—you know, I don't—you know, it's hard to sing what I sing and talk about that, but if they're talking about the struggle between the two sides, then maybe I can listen.
00:37:56.000 But if you're just talking about this— This is pop music.
00:37:59.000 This ain't country.
00:38:00.000 Yeah.
00:38:01.000 So, that's why I decided not to censor myself on the record.
00:38:03.000 It's like, if I'm gonna do real country, it ain't gonna get played on country radio no matter what I do.
00:38:07.000 Doesn't matter anymore, though, does it?
00:38:09.000 I mean, it seems like...
00:38:11.000 Did you...
00:38:11.000 Please check this, because I'm not sure if it's true.
00:38:14.000 Some of the comedy store was saying that CBS is unloading all of its radio properties.
00:38:18.000 They are...
00:38:19.000 I've heard they're currently exploring options on what to do with their stuff.
00:38:23.000 I don't know that it's officially happening.
00:38:24.000 Yeah, well, how can...
00:38:25.000 Who would be listening to...
00:38:26.000 Nobody listens to the radio. 1.00
00:38:27.000 It sounds like shit. 1.00
00:38:28.000 It's not nearly as good as a CD or an MP3 in your car, right? 1.00
00:38:32.000 But how's that HD radio?
00:38:33.000 Is that okay?
00:38:34.000 I've never heard it.
00:38:35.000 But, like, if you...
00:38:36.000 This is a radio show.
00:38:37.000 What would I be on here for?
00:38:38.000 Two and a half minutes?
00:38:39.000 Maybe.
00:38:40.000 And it would be censored.
00:38:41.000 You couldn't talk about the record.
00:38:42.000 And then we would have to say, traffic brought to you by Petco.
00:38:45.000 Do you have a cute little dog or a kitten?
00:38:47.000 Go to Petco. 0.72
00:38:48.000 Get them ground up, murdered animals. 0.91
00:38:51.000 We'll be right back.
00:38:52.000 Yeah, we'd have to do those breaks.
00:38:53.000 I've done a couple of those, because country radio literally won't have me on.
00:38:56.000 So I did a couple of terrestrial, whatever they call it, rock stations, because they were kind of into it.
00:39:01.000 So...
00:39:03.000 He's got a new album called Redneck Stuff.
00:39:05.000 You know, it's like they can't even say that.
00:39:06.000 So then people, it doesn't even help me because they go on iTunes, they can't find the name of the record. 0.98
00:39:10.000 Well, do you remember that CeeLo Green song, Fuck You, that they turned into Forget You, and they kept going. 0.97
00:39:16.000 You knew, you would hear it somewhere. 1.00
00:39:18.000 And you would go, you fucking, why did you make a second version of this? 0.99
00:39:22.000 What did you do? 0.99
00:39:23.000 Well, that's my thing.
00:39:24.000 I've been asked the other thing, which, you know, you're kind of getting to.
00:39:28.000 I have been asked many times to make censored versions of these songs.
00:39:32.000 And back to me owning it.
00:39:34.000 No.
00:39:35.000 It ain't happening.
00:39:35.000 I can't believe they talked CeeLo into it.
00:39:37.000 Well, that's... 1.00
00:39:38.000 But when you're on a major label and they're paying for all your shit, you know... 1.00
00:39:41.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:39:42.000 You gotta do what you gotta do.
00:39:43.000 When you're on tour...
00:39:45.000 And that's the other thing where I was talking about, I ain't touring until I got an audience, but someone like him, and he's on tour with a giant band, and the record company's fronting the bill, but he's got to end up paying it back.
00:39:55.000 Right. 0.94
00:39:55.000 Fuck yeah, you're going to put out the censored version. 0.94
00:39:57.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:39:58.000 But if you're not, you know, if no giant corporations behind me, like, this is all, you know, this is my label.
00:40:05.000 I could take it off the market today if I wanted to. 0.97
00:40:07.000 I'm not going to, because this is, I'm on a big podcast here, and I want to sell some fucking records. 0.97
00:40:12.000 But I could. 0.87
00:40:13.000 Well, I think what's happened with this is a lot.
00:40:16.000 There's a lot going on on the internet with people just making stuff and selling stuff.
00:40:21.000 Just whatever it is.
00:40:23.000 There's people that are doing...
00:40:24.000 Louis C.K. is doing that Horace and Pete show.
00:40:27.000 What did he say on Stern?
00:40:29.000 Did you hear about that?
00:40:30.000 Spent all his money making this Horace and Pete show himself when he's selling it on his website.
00:40:34.000 Just because he wanted to do it.
00:40:35.000 But also he wanted to do it himself.
00:40:37.000 Exactly.
00:40:37.000 He wanted to have nobody involved.
00:40:39.000 Just make it all himself.
00:40:40.000 That's really...
00:40:41.000 And same thing with your pocket.
00:40:43.000 Isn't that the lesson, really? 0.99
00:40:44.000 Why not only do things if you're willing to put up your own fucking money? 0.99
00:40:49.000 Two and a half men... 1.00
00:40:50.000 You were talking about that kind of shit. 1.00
00:40:52.000 Well, fuck yeah, I'll make it if I'm... 1.00
00:40:54.000 If the whole thing's a bust, I lose zero. 0.99
00:40:56.000 Yeah.
00:40:57.000 If this is a bust, I lose a lot of money.
00:40:58.000 You lose money if your podcast goes up, you know?
00:41:00.000 It's also, they make it seem so easy.
00:41:03.000 Like, if you're going to do a record with some major label, they're going to take care of everything.
00:41:06.000 Wheeler, don't you worry about a thing.
00:41:08.000 Guys with a big cigar is going to get in the elevator with you, bring you up to the top floor.
00:41:11.000 You're going to glad hand a bunch of people.
00:41:13.000 We're really behind this record, Wheeler.
00:41:14.000 We love you.
00:41:15.000 Oh my God, I'm a fan.
00:41:17.000 I listened to your stuff in the car.
00:41:18.000 I was crying, laughing.
00:41:19.000 Ha ha ha ha ha.
00:41:20.000 When are you performing?
00:41:20.000 We'd like to see you when you're coming to town.
00:41:22.000 Just total bullshit you. 1.00
00:41:24.000 You leave, and then another guy goes in and they do the same fucking thing. 1.00
00:41:27.000 They don't really give a fuck about you. 0.99
00:41:28.000 They hope that you make some money and they'll kind of pretend. 0.95
00:41:30.000 I mean, maybe they like you, but most likely they just like you as a product.
00:41:33.000 Them liking me or not, like you said, ain't got nothing to do with it.
00:41:35.000 Exactly.
00:41:36.000 When they heard the record, and I went to the top of the top of those big record companies, and I sat there, and they were loving it, blah, blah, blah.
00:41:44.000 But also, you know, we gotta cut this song, and we gotta take this line out.
00:41:49.000 And the second they said that... 0.99
00:41:51.000 I just sit in the room, fucking deal. 0.99
00:41:53.000 I took the meetings, I figured it's worth taking. 0.99
00:41:56.000 I'll listen to them.
00:41:58.000 And I will tell you this, and this is a credit to the producer, Dave. 0.60
00:42:03.000 When he told me how much it cost, and listen, it was pretty much all the money I had, but the amount of money that it cost to make a record in 2016 is not that much fucking money when you look at it. 0.99
00:42:17.000 To sell your fucking... 0.99
00:42:19.000 The labels will make it cost a million by charging you all that fucking bullshit and, you know, ordering pizzas every day that you don't want, you know, hiring all these big gun players and shit. 1.00
00:42:30.000 People are making albums on their fucking computer. 1.00
00:42:32.000 It doesn't, it don't cost shit. 1.00
00:42:33.000 You know, I went a little higher, but even that, my jaw dropped when he told me the price. 0.98
00:42:38.000 It was, and I don't want to say, you know...
00:42:42.000 How come?
00:42:43.000 Because I don't want people to come to him like, oh, you charged him, so-and-so.
00:42:48.000 And also, since then, he's sold millions of records since then, so I'm sure his price is going up. 0.96
00:42:57.000 I'm not sure if he loved an artist, he'd record them for fucking free. 0.91
00:43:01.000 But if he's some big label, he'll take whatever money. 0.91
00:43:04.000 Well, our music producers, in a lot of ways, are a lot like musicians in that they enjoy making good stuff.
00:43:10.000 And I know a lot of musicians, they'll do each other's albums.
00:43:13.000 They essentially do it for free. 0.99
00:43:14.000 They go and they'll do a cameo on each other's shit. 1.00
00:43:19.000 Yeah, I mean, I can't say enough. 0.99
00:43:20.000 I almost feel guilty mentioning him because he's, you know, he does some good shit that's selling a lot. 0.99
00:43:26.000 I don't want to, you know, talk about him producing this dirty shit, but he did such a fucking amazing job. 0.99
00:43:33.000 I mean, he's such a music fan that he knows, and he's kind of from the South like me. 0.99
00:43:38.000 I've noticed that people like that, people like Sturgill, Shooter, we all had the same kind of, music-wise, same kind of upbringing, which was...
00:43:46.000 Grew up in the South, country music everywhere. 0.96
00:43:49.000 You're like, fuck this, I'm not listening to Friends in Low Places or whatever. 0.99
00:43:52.000 You start listening to Zeppelin, you start listening to rock, and you start going to all this other... 0.99
00:43:56.000 It's all the exact same thing.
00:43:57.000 And then you come back to...
00:44:00.000 Waylon didn't become Waylon until he was late 30s at least.
00:44:04.000 That's not music for kids, you know?
00:44:06.000 There's a reason why I didn't get Waylon when I was 11. And you get older and you listen to it, and you're like, now I fucking get it. 0.97
00:44:12.000 You come back around to it, and that's what happened to a lot of me and my friends.
00:44:14.000 Like, this is... 0.95
00:44:16.000 As real and as fucking dark and as, you know, As bare bones as any fucking Zeppelin I ever heard. 0.97
00:44:25.000 I love Zeppelin, too. 0.99
00:44:26.000 It's the same shit, but that kind of shit is not available anymore. 1.00
00:44:31.000 It's legit. 1.00
00:44:32.000 It's legit if it's a rock song.
00:44:34.000 The Black Keys are legit.
00:44:36.000 There's bands that are just legit. 1.00
00:44:38.000 You listen to their shit and you just go, wow. 0.99
00:44:40.000 And then there's stuff that you listen to that even if you enjoy it, you know it's heavily produced and someone created it in a pop factory. 1.00
00:44:47.000 And it just doesn't hit you the same way.
00:44:49.000 And the crazy thing is, too, is like, You listen to someone, like you really got to see, and I hate TV using it, but like, I know Sturgill is just the example we're using.
00:44:59.000 You got to see them live because nowadays...
00:45:02.000 They can make anybody sound. 0.99
00:45:03.000 He doesn't use the fucking auto-tune. 1.00
00:45:05.000 But when you see him live, you go, holy shit, he was just singing on the record. 1.00
00:45:08.000 Yeah, I could sing. 0.99
00:45:09.000 I could go sing some auto-tune.
00:45:11.000 Yeah, with auto-tune.
00:45:13.000 You got the look.
00:45:13.000 You got everything you need.
00:45:14.000 Do some like Peter Frampton shit. 1.00
00:45:15.000 Remember what we used to do? 1.00
00:45:16.000 Do you feel like I do?
00:45:17.000 He was like the first guy to use auto-tune, wasn't he?
00:45:20.000 Was that auto-tune?
00:45:20.000 I think that was a...
00:45:21.000 Was it a different thing?
00:45:22.000 A vocal, you know, that thing with the guitar.
00:45:24.000 Yeah.
00:45:25.000 I don't think that was a...
00:45:26.000 The wah-wah-tune.
00:45:28.000 What was it?
00:45:30.000 It's called a talk box.
00:45:30.000 A talk box, alright.
00:45:32.000 I had a friend who worked, who auto-tuned a major country pop star.
00:45:37.000 Whoa. 0.98
00:45:38.000 And he said my voice was fucking better. 0.99
00:45:41.000 Congratulations. 0.99
00:45:41.000 And I said, who looked better, and I didn't. 0.99
00:45:43.000 I won't tell you the answer.
00:45:44.000 You don't get a response.
00:45:46.000 Well, I think there's nothing wrong with making those Two and a Half Men shows.
00:45:50.000 There's nothing wrong with what we're talking about.
00:45:52.000 But as far as, like, what interests me, I'm not interested in those poppy songs.
00:45:57.000 It's just, it goes in my head, and my head just starts rejecting it, like, oh, you're eating plastic, get it out of there.
00:46:03.000 You know, it's like, you could live for, like, a few days off of Hostess Cupcakes, if you wanted to.
00:46:08.000 You could probably live for a month off of Just Hostess Cupcakes. 0.89
00:46:11.000 I wouldn't recommend it, though.
00:46:13.000 Yeah, I would definitely not recommend that. 0.95
00:46:15.000 I mean, that'd be fucking... 0.82
00:46:16.000 How long could you live? 1.00
00:46:17.000 Your brain would probably fucking... 1.00
00:46:18.000 No protein, no vitamins. 1.00
00:46:21.000 How long could you live off Hostess cupcakes?
00:46:22.000 That's gotta be the equivalent of just going without food, right?
00:46:26.000 That would be a really interesting experiment.
00:46:28.000 Yeah, they should do that.
00:46:28.000 You know what we should do to do that?
00:46:29.000 Red Band.
00:46:30.000 Red Band would be willing to do that.
00:46:31.000 What's that Super Size Me guy?
00:46:33.000 He did...
00:46:33.000 Oh, he just did fast food.
00:46:34.000 He did fast food, but if someone just ate Hostess cupcakes...
00:46:36.000 I feel like a lot of people just eat fast food.
00:46:38.000 That didn't really count.
00:46:39.000 That's normal.
00:46:39.000 Yeah.
00:46:40.000 Well, some people...
00:46:41.000 I mean, I don't know.
00:46:42.000 People have criticized that show, that movie, Super Size Me.
00:46:46.000 Like, all of his liver damage and all that stuff, they're like, come on.
00:46:49.000 Yeah, well, I remember he threw up on day one. 0.99
00:46:52.000 People go to fast food all the time, they don't fucking barf. 0.95
00:46:55.000 Wasn't he a vegan or something before that? 0.99
00:46:56.000 He was super healthy before that.
00:46:58.000 He was a vegan chef or something.
00:46:59.000 But also, I always get pissed when I see a movie like that, and they're like...
00:47:03.000 And in conclusion, fast food is not good for you.
00:47:06.000 I'm like, oh, thanks. 0.99
00:47:07.000 Any more fucking brain busters? 0.99
00:47:08.000 Well, not only that, they say, don't eat it every day. 1.00
00:47:11.000 You're not supposed to eat it every day.
00:47:13.000 Fast food is supposed to be a guilty thing that you eat when you've got no time to do anything else.
00:47:17.000 Like, you want to just pull in the Burger King? 1.00
00:47:18.000 All right, fuck it, let's do this. 1.00
00:47:19.000 That's what it's supposed to be. 1.00
00:47:20.000 Twice a year, you get hung over and you go to fucking... 0.99
00:47:22.000 Jack in the Box. 0.99
00:47:23.000 Jack in the Box.
00:47:24.000 Fine, it's no big deal.
00:47:25.000 The people there aren't, like, thinking they're...
00:47:28.000 Slinging health food, you know?
00:47:29.000 Yeah, well, they're trying to catch up to that now, though.
00:47:32.000 You see, like, McDonald's has salads.
00:47:34.000 What?
00:47:35.000 Can you imagine how nasty that is?
00:47:36.000 Oh, my God, their salad.
00:47:38.000 What does it taste like?
00:47:39.000 Like Fukushima lettuce?
00:47:40.000 What if it was, like, the best salad you've ever had?
00:47:43.000 It's possible.
00:47:44.000 It is totally possible. 1.00
00:47:46.000 Like, they're a new sponsor on your fucking show. 1.00
00:47:51.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:47:51.000 Have you ever had any big corporate sponsors on here? 0.99
00:47:53.000 No.
00:47:54.000 No.
00:47:54.000 No.
00:47:55.000 Well, I prefer to do it the way we're doing it, too.
00:47:57.000 Mostly companies that sell things only online.
00:47:59.000 Like Squarespace and stuff like that.
00:48:02.000 Oh, I think...
00:48:02.000 The website development company.
00:48:04.000 I've gotten emails from Squarespace.
00:48:06.000 I think they do my website.
00:48:08.000 Well, you can make your own website on them.
00:48:10.000 It's super easy to do.
00:48:11.000 But there's a lot of companies that they're using the internet now.
00:48:15.000 And using podcasts as sponsors because they don't have to have a store.
00:48:18.000 They don't have to have like a retail place.
00:48:20.000 They don't have to have a bunch of employees that wear an Ambercrobby and Fitch spray.
00:48:24.000 They can just sell stuff online.
00:48:26.000 I think someone was telling me at the place that distributes the record that 80 or something more percent of my albums sold have been iTunes and Amazon.
00:48:37.000 That's amazing.
00:48:37.000 Because people can't find it.
00:48:39.000 The stores aren't carrying it.
00:48:40.000 And no one can find it.
00:48:41.000 And when I was a kid, and when you were a kid, even if word of mouth got to you about this record, you couldn't buy it.
00:48:48.000 In Kentucky, I went to the record store.
00:48:49.000 I remember someone was telling me about the Velvet Underground.
00:48:52.000 I got to go hear the Velvet Underground.
00:48:54.000 So I went to this local record store in Lexington.
00:48:59.000 And...
00:49:00.000 They look it up in the catalog, like, yeah, it'll be four weeks and we'll get it to you.
00:49:04.000 It'll be four weeks to hear what this fan sounds like.
00:49:06.000 So they had a buy from a catalog?
00:49:08.000 Yeah, they had a catalog of every record, because no one in there's buying it, so why would they order it?
00:49:13.000 Wow, so you have to order it, and then you just have to buy it and listen to it, because you're not going to hear it anywhere.
00:49:17.000 Well, that's what, to me, is the big thing that's changed music.
00:49:20.000 Like, I used to, again, I was, you know...
00:49:23.000 Even Lexington, which is not that small of a town, you're an island, really.
00:49:27.000 So you would get Rolling Stone, you read about, like, the Jesus Lizard.
00:49:31.000 I don't know if you remember that band, really hardcore.
00:49:32.000 They're really cool.
00:49:33.000 And I remember the guy writing about the Jesus Lizard in Rolling Stone said that they're like, this is not a joke. 1.00
00:49:38.000 These fuckers are fucking crazy. 1.00
00:49:40.000 And it's the craziest music. 1.00
00:49:41.000 Whatever they said got me wanting to listen to it.
00:49:44.000 Nowadays you read that you don't need the article. 0.99
00:49:46.000 You just click on the fucking music. 0.99
00:49:48.000 But I had to wait weeks. 1.00
00:49:50.000 To fucking hear this shit there's you can't press on the fucking article and yeah, it's like the mystery of it's gone But that being said the positive is that I can actually sell my My record fuck the mystery. 1.00
00:50:02.000 It's all positives to me. 1.00
00:50:03.000 Oh, yeah You can sell your record also that like like people start talking about you through Twitter and Facebook and things along those lines And it just spreads across the whole country like that.
00:50:12.000 Well, can you imagine even ten years ago or if not more like Like, I'm banned from Walmart.
00:50:19.000 Imagine getting that call 10 years ago.
00:50:20.000 Devastating.
00:50:21.000 Devastating.
00:50:22.000 This wasn't even...
00:50:23.000 Of course.
00:50:24.000 It doesn't even matter.
00:50:25.000 Of course you're going to be banned from Walmart.
00:50:26.000 It's a badge of honor.
00:50:28.000 Yeah, I think they probably...
00:50:29.000 It's just like...
00:50:30.000 They probably banned 50 other records.
00:50:33.000 They probably banned everything. 1.00
00:50:34.000 They banned so much shit. 1.00
00:50:35.000 But there's this whole... 1.00
00:50:36.000 What you were talking about, all this shit they feed you. 1.00
00:50:38.000 There's... 1.00
00:50:39.000 And listen, it ain't gonna sell a million fucking copies, but there's a section of, you know, the audience that wants real shit, and there's a section of people who are sick. 1.00
00:50:50.000 I'm sick of the fucking radio. 1.00
00:50:51.000 I just want to hear Joe talk to somebody in a fucking conversation. 1.00
00:50:54.000 Listen, I'm sure you still do radio, promote shows and shit like that. 0.99
00:50:57.000 I don't do radio anymore.
00:50:58.000 You don't?
00:50:58.000 You stop?
00:50:58.000 I do, like, Kevin and Bean, because they're friends.
00:51:00.000 Oh, yeah, I did their cherry thing recently.
00:51:04.000 They're awesome.
00:51:04.000 Most of the time, I'm not doing that much radio anymore.
00:51:06.000 That's awesome.
00:51:07.000 See...
00:51:07.000 I just...
00:51:08.000 I talk too much already.
00:51:09.000 I don't want to talk more.
00:51:10.000 Well, that's...
00:51:11.000 First of all, I'm jealous, but second of all, it's awesome that you've got a big enough platform that you can...
00:51:16.000 You don't have to do it, you know?
00:51:17.000 Yeah, it's super fortunate.
00:51:19.000 But, I mean, it's not that I didn't enjoy doing some radio, but the problem is, for us, it's in the morning.
00:51:24.000 Like, for me, it's always at, like, 6 o'clock in the morning or 7 o'clock in the morning.
00:51:28.000 You're preaching to the convertiment.
00:51:29.000 Like, I've got to get up. 0.99
00:51:31.000 I've had to, you know, get up at 7 to do fucking radio. 1.00
00:51:34.000 This idea that you can only listen to it at a specific time is so fucking stupid. 1.00
00:51:39.000 Like, you don't have to do that anymore. 0.99
00:51:41.000 We have a way better way of getting stuff out.
00:51:43.000 It's so funny you said that. 1.00
00:51:44.000 It's so dumb. 1.00
00:51:45.000 It's like, who are they fooling? 1.00
00:51:47.000 Like, why?
00:51:48.000 Exactly.
00:51:50.000 Why do you think podcasts were going to happen no matter what happened? 0.79
00:51:55.000 I don't know who fucking started, but it had to happen because people want to listen to what they want to listen to, and when you fucking start up your car again, you want to listen where you left off.
00:52:04.000 It takes it right where it left off, and it just syncs up to your car. 0.95
00:52:06.000 That's not rocket science.
00:52:07.000 Not only that, you get it with one press of a button.
00:52:09.000 I can go to my podcast.
00:52:11.000 I can go to the podcast app on iTunes.
00:52:13.000 I look at the podcast.
00:52:14.000 I say, oh, Wheeler Walker Jr. Boom.
00:52:16.000 I touch it.
00:52:17.000 I can do all this at a red light.
00:52:18.000 And then my car, the light turns green, I start driving, and I'm listening to you.
00:52:22.000 Like that.
00:52:23.000 It's just so easy.
00:52:24.000 And remember the old days, you'd go, you know, oh, Stern interviewed Chris Rock.
00:52:28.000 You missed it.
00:52:29.000 Yeah.
00:52:29.000 What are we leaving?
00:52:31.000 How did I miss it?
00:52:32.000 That's not the world we live in anymore.
00:52:34.000 Exactly. 0.94
00:52:35.000 You know, so fucking get with the time. 0.97
00:52:36.000 So there's a lot of people still clinging on to the old, you know, how things, like you said, people need to watch a show at a certain time or listen to the radio. 0.98
00:52:44.000 Like, drive time radio. 0.99
00:52:45.000 What the fuck? 1.00
00:52:45.000 Who listens to radio on the fucking drive in the morning? 1.00
00:52:48.000 Well, the first thing that switched it up was Sirius XM. Because when Sirius, when it was XM... You know, and Opie and Anthony were on, and Howard Stern is on, and what they figured out when they were doing this was like, look, we don't have to have any censorship. 0.99
00:53:01.000 We can just say whatever the fuck we want.
00:53:03.000 But they started getting in trouble, too. 0.97
00:53:04.000 Like, Opie and Anthony got banned off the air once because they brought in a homeless guy, and he started talking about banging Condoleezza Rice.
00:53:11.000 Oh, yeah, one of them?
00:53:12.000 Yeah.
00:53:12.000 I did Opie and Anthony.
00:53:14.000 They were cool.
00:53:14.000 One of them, but it's not Opie and Anthony.
00:53:16.000 No, now it's Opie and Jimmy.
00:53:17.000 Yeah, they were cool, too.
00:53:19.000 Anthony's got his own thing now.
00:53:21.000 He's got Anthony Kumio Radio.
00:53:22.000 But I remember, it was funny, too, because I think you're right about that Sirius XM was a big thing, because I remember when Stern, who I used to listen to, who, by the way, I didn't listen to later, because...
00:53:33.000 My hometown didn't have a stern going on.
00:53:35.000 But I started listening to him, and I loved him, and I said he's going to satellite radio where he can stay wherever he wants.
00:53:40.000 And they're like, well, he's not going to be as funny.
00:53:43.000 Half the fun is listening to him trying to talk around him. 0.99
00:53:45.000 And then you listen, and you go, that's such a fucking... 0.97
00:53:47.000 It's so much fucking funnier when he's not... 0.98
00:53:49.000 When he's just saying it. 1.00
00:53:51.000 That idea that it's more fun to be censored is so stupid. 0.99
00:53:53.000 But I always love when people prove theories wrong, you know? 1.00
00:53:56.000 That's a dumb theory, though. 0.97
00:53:57.000 That's like a big... 1.00
00:53:58.000 Didn't you hear that all the time? 1.00
00:53:59.000 I heard that all the fucking time. 0.99
00:54:00.000 I never heard that. 0.99
00:54:01.000 I used to hear that about comedy.
00:54:02.000 But I was always like, whatever.
00:54:04.000 Sam Kinison and Richard Pryor are my all-time favorites. 0.99
00:54:07.000 Like, how the fuck can you tell me? 0.95
00:54:08.000 Who's funnier than Richard Pryor? 0.98
00:54:09.000 Nobody was funnier than Richard Pryor.
00:54:11.000 And how could you tell me that beating around the bush would be better than what Pryor was doing?
00:54:15.000 You can't.
00:54:15.000 You can't even say.
00:54:16.000 You have to be quiet.
00:54:17.000 Well, maybe it was more in the South, but I kept hearing, you know, now that he's not got, like, the FCC to fight against, and he can, you know, the fun was him trying to get around the censors.
00:54:25.000 Nah. 1.00
00:54:25.000 Bullshit. 1.00
00:54:25.000 And you listen to it, and you go, it's so much fucking better now that you don't. 1.00
00:54:28.000 Yeah, that's bullshit. 0.99
00:54:29.000 Just to be free, completely free to express yourself without any worry about a word that's going to get you fined for hundreds of thousands of dollars. 0.99
00:54:36.000 You've got to remember, he got sued by the FCC, right?
00:54:40.000 He owed millions, I think.
00:54:41.000 He got taken to task. 0.99
00:54:41.000 He had to go to court over that shit, and they wound up fining him ungodly amounts of money, and there was nobody out there with him. 0.99
00:54:49.000 When he was doing that, that's one of the reasons why I'll never criticize that guy. 0.98
00:54:54.000 He's one of the most important pioneers when it comes to radio.
00:54:59.000 If it wasn't for that guy and going out there like that and getting sued and having... 0.99
00:55:04.000 That was all during the fucking Bush administration, man. 1.00
00:55:07.000 Those John Ashcroft fucking... 1.00
00:55:09.000 Yeah, those John Ashcroft fucks, man. 1.00
00:55:12.000 That guy was scary. 0.99
00:55:13.000 All these people that were trying... 1.00
00:55:15.000 There was a lot of religious shit behind it. 1.00
00:55:17.000 Well, they're shitting their boots over this fucking record, too. 1.00
00:55:20.000 Oh, well, they would be dying over that record, but he got sued. 1.00
00:55:23.000 I mean, he actually had to spend real money and real stress.
00:55:26.000 Imagine the government trying to take you out. 1.00
00:55:28.000 All you are is a dirty morning radio guy, and the fucking government's trying to take you out. 1.00
00:55:33.000 You fucking probably get paranoid and shit, too. 1.00
00:55:34.000 You should get paranoid. 1.00
00:55:35.000 You fucking should be paranoid. 1.00
00:55:37.000 What does it say here, Jamie? 0.99
00:55:39.000 There are all the different fines he had to pay from 1990 to 2004. Oh my god, this is insane.
00:55:43.000 So it says he paid them.
00:55:44.000 Some of them got paid.
00:55:45.000 This isn't probably the initial fines that they started as either, but I think this is what they got whittled down to.
00:55:50.000 Well, let's read them off.
00:55:52.000 1990, he got fined $6,000 from the FCC. 1992, he got fined $105,000 from the FCC. 1992, again, he got fined $600,000.
00:56:04.000 1993 got fined $500,000.
00:56:07.000 1993 got fined $73,000, $37,000, $400,000 in 94,000, $200,000 in 94,000. 0.99
00:56:14.000 Holy fuck. 0.99
00:56:15.000 And then it just keeps going on and on and on. 1.00
00:56:17.000 That'd be the last one right there.
00:56:18.000 Yeah, $495,000 in 2004. Two thousand and fucking four! 0.99
00:56:23.000 Isn't that fucking insane? 0.99
00:56:24.000 That's during the Bush administration. 0.99
00:56:26.000 After 9-11, he got fined $495,000.
00:56:29.000 Half a million dollars in fines for saying bad words.
00:56:32.000 Wasn't even saying bad words.
00:56:33.000 He didn't even say bad words.
00:56:35.000 He didn't swear.
00:56:36.000 That's what was crazy.
00:56:37.000 What was it?
00:56:38.000 Subject matter. 0.99
00:56:40.000 Talking about farts or piss or shit or something like that. 1.00
00:56:43.000 It was so crazy. 0.99
00:56:44.000 It was such a crazy time.
00:56:45.000 If I were to say that to someone who didn't know, they would think, oh, you mean the 50s or the 40s? 0.99
00:56:50.000 This is fucking 2004. And if he didn't go through that, if there wasn't this backlash from the public finding out about it, because everybody I know that heard about it was like, what? 0.72
00:56:59.000 How are they wasting our fucking money suing him over a radio show that, by the way, has... 0.82
00:57:05.000 Twenty million people listening to it every morning. 0.99
00:57:08.000 It's pretty obvious that people are enjoying this radio show, and when they stop enjoying it, it'll go off the air. 0.99
00:57:13.000 That's what the fucking free market is about. 0.97
00:57:15.000 But it wasn't about that. 0.99
00:57:16.000 What it was about is controlling someone. 1.00
00:57:18.000 Because it wasn't just his dirty shit. 1.00
00:57:20.000 That's not what concerned them as much as his criticism of the Bush administration, his criticism of political policies, and his willingness to say whatever the fuck he wants. 1.00
00:57:29.000 He was a dangerous guy. 0.99
00:57:31.000 He had too much power.
00:57:32.000 You think that's what kind of started podcasts?
00:57:36.000 No, I don't think that's what started podcasts, but I think that for him, that started the journey eventually to XM. He had to, to Sirius, whatever it was at the time.
00:57:46.000 He had to. 0.99
00:57:47.000 They were fucking with him constantly, all the time. 0.98
00:57:50.000 I don't think he gets enough credit for that. 1.00
00:57:52.000 It's insanity, man.
00:57:54.000 What is this?
00:57:55.000 He's a hero, man.
00:57:57.000 In 2004, what he got fined for.
00:57:59.000 Talk for sphincterine, a product for maintaining anal and genital hygiene.
00:58:03.000 So it's a gag. 0.73
00:58:03.000 That guy, Jack Thompson, was going after him. 0.73
00:58:05.000 He was doing those things after video games and stuff, too, if you remember.
00:58:08.000 Oh, the Tennessee guy?
00:58:10.000 Activist and attorney Jack Thompson supplied the FCC with show transcripts.
00:58:15.000 Oh, God. 0.99
00:58:18.000 Listen, that's not what I pay my fucking government officials to do. 0.99
00:58:23.000 I guarantee you a lot of it was about controlling a powerful guy. 0.99
00:58:26.000 Because he had talked about running for governor, remember?
00:58:29.000 Remember that?
00:58:30.000 Oh yeah.
00:58:30.000 Yeah, but he was going to have to disclose how much money he made, and that's when he decided not to do it.
00:58:34.000 I wonder if he would do that now, because now everybody knows he's got hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:58:38.000 I wonder if it would even bother him. 0.98
00:58:38.000 I feel like the people running now, they haven't disclosed shit. 0.98
00:58:42.000 Well, Trump has. 0.99
00:58:43.000 Trump says he's worth more than he actually is.
00:58:45.000 That's what's hilarious about him.
00:58:46.000 I know, but I'm saying, have we seen the actual...
00:58:49.000 Well, Bernie Sanders just released his tax returns, and his tax returns said that he made less money last year than Hillary Clinton did for one single speech. 0.99
00:58:57.000 Holy shit. 0.98
00:58:58.000 He made $200,000, and she's made as much as, I think, $290,000 for one speech. 0.99
00:59:02.000 Maybe even in the threes for one speech.
00:59:05.000 I wonder how she negotiates that. 1.00
00:59:06.000 I'll release my fucking returns. 0.99
00:59:08.000 How much money I lost. 0.99
00:59:09.000 How many seats is this?
00:59:10.000 There's about 400 seats.
00:59:11.000 Okay.
00:59:12.000 I wound up like, you know, a quarter million bucks.
00:59:15.000 What?
00:59:16.000 I just told you there's like 400 seats.
00:59:18.000 Like, how much are we charging these people?
00:59:20.000 We're going to pay you that.
00:59:21.000 It's like $225,000, I think.
00:59:23.000 I'll take that.
00:59:24.000 Pearl Jam fighting over ticket prices, making sure they don't get to be 25 bucks, and now people are paying $250,000 to watch a speech.
00:59:32.000 Well, that is obviously just bribery money.
00:59:35.000 It's just bizarre that she won't release the transcripts of the bribery money speeches.
00:59:39.000 Anytime you don't want to release something, it's always bad.
00:59:41.000 Exactly!
00:59:41.000 That's not good!
00:59:42.000 Imagine what she said, you know? 1.00
00:59:44.000 They're probably sacrificing babies and shit, lighting owls on fire. 1.00
00:59:48.000 Probably had an effigy. 1.00
00:59:50.000 Sturgill's probably all over them papers.
00:59:51.000 Probably.
00:59:52.000 He was probably one of the reasons why she kept her mouth shut.
00:59:55.000 You know what?
00:59:55.000 If it keeps his albums coming out, I'm all for it.
00:59:58.000 Yeah, whatever he's got to do, man. 0.99
00:59:59.000 There's a lot of people that need to be shot. 0.99
01:00:01.000 Right? 0.99
01:00:01.000 Well, yeah. 0.99
01:00:02.000 No, no, no.
01:00:03.000 He's not taking out the good guys.
01:00:05.000 Exactly.
01:00:05.000 He's taking out enemies of the state.
01:00:06.000 That's what's up, dude.
01:00:07.000 He's like a Showtime drama series assassin type guy.
01:00:12.000 Oh, maybe they'll make that show.
01:00:13.000 Can you imagine if that was a show?
01:00:14.000 Sturgill Simpson just running around.
01:00:16.000 Do you remember that movie where the guy from the gong show, Chuck Perry?
01:00:20.000 Oh, Confessions of a Dangerous Mind.
01:00:21.000 Yeah.
01:00:22.000 I thought that was cool.
01:00:23.000 It was kind of crazy.
01:00:24.000 I was half out of it watching that movie in a hotel room in Vegas.
01:00:27.000 I remember falling asleep.
01:00:29.000 I just remember it was...
01:00:31.000 But he thought he was worried for the government.
01:00:34.000 Yeah, but it was really weird.
01:00:36.000 It was like, what is this?
01:00:37.000 I remember reading a passage from it, too.
01:00:41.000 It's a book.
01:00:42.000 And I remember reading the passage going, what is this?
01:00:44.000 Is this fake?
01:00:45.000 Was he on drugs?
01:00:45.000 What is this?
01:00:46.000 I never got into it. 0.99
01:00:47.000 Speaking of that shit, talking about First Amendment freedom fighters, a major hero, and people don't know about it, from Kentucky's own Mr. Larry Flint, He did a lot of... 0.99
01:01:01.000 I don't think people realize how important... 1.00
01:01:02.000 There was that movie made out of it.
01:01:04.000 Yeah.
01:01:04.000 But I don't think...
01:01:05.000 And people...
01:01:07.000 You get laughed at when you say Larry Flint is a hero of yours because you love Hustler.
01:01:12.000 And, you know, I love Nick.
01:01:13.000 But it's not what I'm talking about.
01:01:14.000 No.
01:01:15.000 Freedom of speech, man.
01:01:16.000 He did more for freedom of speech than probably anyone alive right now.
01:01:21.000 That... 1.00
01:01:22.000 You had to be as fucking crazy as... 1.00
01:01:24.000 He took that shit to the Supreme Court because he was fucking insane. 1.00
01:01:28.000 And he was rich as fuck? 1.00
01:01:29.000 And he didn't give... 1.00
01:01:30.000 Yeah, the whole thing...
01:01:31.000 It was a perfect timing, too, because this was before porn hit the internet and the money kind of eroded.
01:01:36.000 Yeah.
01:01:36.000 You know, back then, he was selling those magazines.
01:01:39.000 He was rich from selling magazines. 1.00
01:01:40.000 He was gonna lose everything because of a fucking joke. 1.00
01:01:43.000 When I was... 1.00
01:01:44.000 Yeah, he really was.
01:01:45.000 Yeah.
01:01:46.000 When I first came to LA, I remember seeing that building.
01:01:49.000 That Flint Publications building.
01:01:51.000 Oh, yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:01:52.000 It's just an enormous, fucking huge office building. 0.98
01:01:56.000 I've met him briefly. 0.99
01:01:58.000 I know some of his family members back in Kentucky.
01:02:02.000 But yeah, it's an empire.
01:02:05.000 But also, I think when he dies, they'll be talking about it. 1.00
01:02:08.000 They'll be the jokey national news shit. 0.99
01:02:11.000 But there'll be some really interesting... 0.98
01:02:15.000 Fucking pieces written about what he actually did because he really he changed everything like this album literally I couldn't make this album without literally I agree and I think that what was going on with him at the same time as what was going on with Howard Stern they were all real similar It was real similar and the government was trying to decide what people could and couldn't do and the people that didn't get defended were the dirty ones Totally. 0.97
01:02:36.000 The dirty magazine guy, the dirty radio guy. 0.98
01:02:38.000 For whatever reason, they didn't get defended.
01:02:41.000 Where a journalist, if a journalist is getting attacked like that for revealing the truth about something, people would be up in arms.
01:02:45.000 The intellectuals would be up in arms.
01:02:47.000 But nobody recognized that it's just as dangerous to tell people that they can't jerk off to Hustler as it is to tell a political dissident that he can't speak out.
01:02:57.000 And that's what they said at the trial.
01:02:58.000 I mean, the Ed Norton guy who played him, he's like...
01:03:00.000 This has nothing to do with whether you like Hustle or not.
01:03:02.000 It's no different than any free speech trial anywhere. 0.99
01:03:07.000 But by the way, if you rule against this, that it could lead to people being censored in all different forms, but it took something that crazy to get it to the Supreme Court and someone that fucking crazy. 0.98
01:03:21.000 It's just too problematic. 0.93
01:03:23.000 When you tell people what they can and can't talk about, it's too problematic.
01:03:27.000 You know, if you censor someone for, especially like sexual stuff, like you censor someone for putting out a magazine where people have sex in it, obviously people have liked that forever.
01:03:37.000 You do know what the actual trial was.
01:03:39.000 I'll repeat it.
01:03:40.000 It was an obscenity trial, right?
01:03:41.000 But he did a...
01:03:43.000 They had comic pieces in the magazine, and he did a piece where he said that...
01:03:48.000 This one I may need help.
01:03:49.000 It was Jerry Falwell, I think.
01:03:52.000 See if you can find it.
01:03:53.000 I'm sure it's online.
01:03:54.000 But you said that before I find out, it was... 0.96
01:03:56.000 I want to get the guy's name right before I fucking... 0.96
01:03:58.000 Jerry Falwell? 0.99
01:04:00.000 Larry Flint.
01:04:02.000 He was the big guy at the time, right?
01:04:03.000 I think so. 0.74
01:04:04.000 Jerry Falwell was the guy that got caught with a hooker, too. 0.77
01:04:07.000 Wasn't it?
01:04:07.000 Or has Jimmy Swaggart?
01:04:09.000 I get them all mixed up.
01:04:11.000 Jimmy Swagger cried on TV. It was awesome.
01:04:13.000 You don't remember that?
01:04:14.000 Oh, yeah, I saw that. 1.00
01:04:15.000 I used to watch that shit all the time. 1.00
01:04:17.000 It was amazing. 1.00
01:04:18.000 It was amazing. 1.00
01:04:19.000 Because we all knew that he was a crazy fuck. 1.00
01:04:23.000 We knew he was a crazy fraud. 1.00
01:04:24.000 It's Larry Flint and... 0.96
01:04:25.000 Just Google Larry Flint Supreme Court.
01:04:28.000 Anyway, the point was, he said that this preacher... 1.00
01:04:32.000 Had sex with his mom in an outhouse. 1.00
01:04:35.000 In an outhouse? 1.00
01:04:36.000 Yeah, in the magazine.
01:04:37.000 Okay.
01:04:38.000 Like, they had a cartoon of it.
01:04:39.000 Right.
01:04:39.000 And I went and saw Larry Flint speak, because, like I said, I'm a big fan of his.
01:04:43.000 And so, the guy sued him.
01:04:48.000 It's Jerry Falwell.
01:04:48.000 Okay, that's what I thought.
01:04:49.000 So, he said Jerry Falwell had sex with his mom in an outhouse, and there was a cartoon, like a Mad Magazine type cartoon. 0.98
01:04:55.000 And... 0.97
01:04:57.000 Sued him for libel. 0.99
01:04:58.000 He's like, it's obviously a fucking joke. 0.99
01:05:01.000 Like, I don't think, you know, this is fucking comedy. 1.00
01:05:04.000 And he sued him, and it went to the fucking Supreme Court. 0.98
01:05:06.000 And I went and saw Larry Flint talk, and when the lawyer, Larry Flint said, this is when he knew he was going to win the Supreme Court trial. 0.99
01:05:16.000 When his lawyer repeated what the article said, That his mom had sex, that Jerry Falwell had sex with his mom in an outhouse. 0.98
01:05:26.000 He saw the judge just giggle for a second. 0.93
01:05:30.000 And the lawyer stopped him and was like, And that's when he knew he had the trial won, because the whole point is, you laughed when I said it.
01:05:38.000 Right. 1.00
01:05:38.000 That this guy fucking his mom in an outhouse, obviously, how are we going to have an argument that's not comedy when all you fuckers just started laughing? 1.00
01:05:46.000 He said from that point on, he knew he was going to win. 1.00
01:05:48.000 And it was funny, too, he also said that Jerry Falwell came to him years later, and they became friends.
01:05:54.000 And he wanted to go do a speak, because I guess he had, you know, maybe not watched his money, he wanted to go do a speaking tour with Larry Flynn.
01:06:02.000 And, uh, He's like, I thought, I just, you know, I want the biggest Supreme Court freedom of speech race ever.
01:06:09.000 He said he realized, that's when they kind of, he's like, to Jerry Falwell, too, it's all a show, you know?
01:06:14.000 It's all, it was just a, it was just theater to him.
01:06:18.000 Like, we can go out and make some money on the road and talk about it.
01:06:21.000 We can debate each other.
01:06:21.000 Exactly.
01:06:22.000 And Larry Friend's like, fuck you. 1.00
01:06:23.000 That was, I was, I was. 1.00
01:06:24.000 I was serious about it.
01:06:26.000 It's kind of funny, though.
01:06:27.000 I would like to party with Jerry Falwell, find out what goes down, take a couple of drinks with him.
01:06:31.000 They did become friends, and another one I have to look, I'm almost positive that when he died, Larry Flint wrote his, maybe for the LA Times, I think Larry Flint wrote his obituary.
01:06:41.000 Really?
01:06:41.000 Yeah.
01:06:42.000 Wow.
01:06:43.000 But yeah, they became friendlier later, but it's an interesting trial.
01:06:46.000 You should definitely check out.
01:06:48.000 And the movie sums it up, but you gotta get into the details of it. 0.78
01:06:52.000 Because what they used to do at Hustler was pretty fucking crazy. 0.99
01:06:55.000 I mean, besides, you know, really getting in there, looking inside the puss and all that shit. 1.00
01:06:59.000 They had peeing and shit. 0.99
01:07:01.000 A lot of people peeing on each other. 1.00
01:07:03.000 Kind of X-rated Mad Magazine type shit. 1.00
01:07:06.000 And that was the shit, ironically, that got him in trouble. 1.00
01:07:09.000 Like, you know, as you know, that it was the sex shit that they were actually pissed about. 1.00
01:07:14.000 Yeah, but that was what they could catch him on. 1.00
01:07:17.000 Because they were so preposterous, some of them.
01:07:19.000 They were so graphic.
01:07:21.000 That was, I guess, yeah, that must have been the one.
01:07:22.000 That was the guy who...
01:07:24.000 This is the letter he wrote in the LA Times after he died.
01:07:27.000 How I Find Myself in Jerry Falwell's Embrace.
01:07:30.000 That's Larry Flynn's obituary.
01:07:34.000 The article is called The Porn King and the Preacher.
01:07:38.000 Interesting.
01:07:39.000 He had an autobiography called An Unseemly Man.
01:07:47.000 He's hilarious!
01:07:48.000 Look, look, he sued him for $50 million.
01:07:50.000 That's why I went to the Supreme Court.
01:07:52.000 He kept losing.
01:07:52.000 A case I lost repeatedly, yet eventually won the Supreme Court.
01:07:56.000 Wow, I kept losing it?
01:07:57.000 Now he's hugging me in front of millions on the Larry King show.
01:08:00.000 Whoa.
01:08:01.000 That's insane.
01:08:02.000 I wonder how much it cost him to fight those off.
01:08:05.000 Because someone's suing you for $50 million.
01:08:07.000 If he lost it repeatedly, each one of those things would cost you a shitload of money.
01:08:11.000 Luckily, it was the right guy who was crazy enough, like you said, and had the money to fight it.
01:08:14.000 Because most people would have just never...
01:08:16.000 Wouldn't have fought at once, much less all the way up to the Supreme Court.
01:08:19.000 Yeah.
01:08:20.000 It's funny, man.
01:08:22.000 It's funny.
01:08:23.000 The whole thing's funny. 0.99
01:08:25.000 Yeah, I mean, the real story, it's one of those things where the real story's crazier than the fucking movie. 0.72
01:08:29.000 Well, it's crazy that it's such a pivotal moment in free speech history, yet, like you said, it's not something anybody ever talks about, that he actually had to go out there like that. 0.77
01:08:38.000 I mean, they were saying before, they're saying SNL might not exist if that was, if he hadn't won that case.
01:08:45.000 Well, look, if he gives any... 0.97
01:08:45.000 Or Daily Show or any of that shit, if you can't parody... 0.97
01:08:50.000 Public figures, SNL can happen. 0.99
01:08:52.000 Right.
01:08:52.000 You can't do The Daily Show, you know?
01:08:54.000 And we could prove that. 0.94
01:08:55.000 And here's a way to prove it, it's sort of a roundabout way, but marijuana is still illegal in 2016 because of some bullshit propaganda that was made in the 1930s. 0.78
01:09:05.000 So that momentum carries on, even though it doesn't make any sense, you could still go to jail today for growing pot.
01:09:11.000 So if you think that if Howard Stern didn't have those lawsuits, didn't pay all that money, didn't make this big public outcry, didn't have to go to Sirius Satellite Radio, if all those things didn't happen and they won, what if they shut him down?
01:09:25.000 What if they pulled him off the air?
01:09:26.000 What if Larry Flint lost and never fought it?
01:09:29.000 What if everything buckled down?
01:09:31.000 How long would it have taken for the internet to happen? 0.93
01:09:33.000 How long would it have taken for things like Reddit or 4chan or these fucking uncensored blogs or uncensored YouTube content where you could do whatever you want. 0.99
01:09:42.000 Vimeo, all that shit, podcasts. 0.96
01:09:44.000 That ripple from those two guys is like one of the most important ripples for free speech media in 2016. It's one of the most important pivotal moments in the history of free speech. 0.98
01:09:55.000 And we're talking about that.
01:09:56.000 It's amazing, right? 0.97
01:09:57.000 It's fucking crazy that we're talking about an X-rated record. 0.93
01:10:01.000 That I own on a podcast that you own. 0.99
01:10:03.000 Yeah. 0.97
01:10:03.000 This wouldn't have been fucking, like, this whole world that we're living in. 0.97
01:10:07.000 The whole thing wouldn't have happened. 0.96
01:10:07.000 You wouldn't have been able to do that record, no way. 0.96
01:10:09.000 No one would have found out about it.
01:10:10.000 Here's the bigger, even though I make fun of, like, those Florida Georgia Line guys.
01:10:13.000 They're some nice guys.
01:10:14.000 They're handsome.
01:10:16.000 We have a choice, at least.
01:10:18.000 Do you think they shave their pubes?
01:10:20.000 Yes.
01:10:20.000 I think they shave each other's pubes.
01:10:21.000 They manscaped the shit out of that box, right? 1.00
01:10:24.000 Oh, dude, they got the best fucking dude. 1.00
01:10:25.000 I bet if there's like a little hair even on the head or around the shaft. 0.99
01:10:29.000 Do you ever get a shaft hair?
01:10:30.000 Those are weird.
01:10:30.000 I shave those immediately.
01:10:31.000 I don't like that.
01:10:32.000 Yeah, it kind of freaks me out.
01:10:33.000 I've gotten a couple.
01:10:34.000 It freaks me out.
01:10:35.000 I don't like a shaft.
01:10:36.000 What if it just starts happening?
01:10:37.000 Like, I have ear hair now.
01:10:38.000 Didn't have ear hair when I was young.
01:10:39.000 What if my shaft just starts growing hairs all over it?
01:10:42.000 Non-stop. 0.54
01:10:43.000 Just non-stop.
01:10:44.000 Like a wolf man. 0.99
01:10:45.000 Every time you shave it, it gets fucking hair hair? 1.00
01:10:47.000 Thicker. 0.99
01:10:47.000 Yeah, it gets more boar-like. 0.99
01:10:49.000 What if it happened on the head?
01:10:50.000 Oh, that'd be crazy.
01:10:51.000 What if that's what girls like? 1.00
01:10:52.000 Somebody's got dick hair on there. 1.00
01:10:53.000 Someone. 0.99
01:10:54.000 Sure. 1.00
01:10:54.000 Like some fucking big Russian dude. 1.00
01:10:57.000 Some Russian bear type character. 0.99
01:10:59.000 Some dude from like Dagestan or something.
01:11:01.000 Some manly man.
01:11:02.000 If you've got...
01:11:02.000 And I'm being serious here.
01:11:03.000 If you've got hair... 1.00
01:11:05.000 On the head of your dick. 1.00
01:11:06.000 You call me because I got my second album. 1.00
01:11:08.000 I'm looking for a cover.
01:11:09.000 That'll be it. 0.51
01:11:12.000 It's called dickhead hair. 0.68
01:11:14.000 It's gotta happen. 0.96
01:11:15.000 There's some people out there that are so hairy.
01:11:17.000 There's this Russian wrestler, I forget what his name is, but he fights in MMA. We were talking about him on the podcast recently because he's entering into some grappling tournaments.
01:11:26.000 Goddammit, what is his name?
01:11:27.000 I've only seen him compete on YouTube.
01:11:30.000 He's just gorilla strong. 1.00
01:11:31.000 And he's got hair on the head of his dick? 1.00
01:11:31.000 Everywhere, like a gorilla. 1.00
01:11:33.000 He's gotta have some...
01:11:34.000 Wasn't that a Paul Simon song? 1.00
01:11:36.000 Hair on the head of his dick? 1.00
01:11:37.000 I think that was one of his best songs. 1.00
01:11:39.000 It's catchy as shit, man. 0.99
01:11:40.000 I mean, you sing around your parents, they yell at you, but it's a good song. 1.00
01:11:43.000 Oh, that was Diamonds on the Soul of the Shoes.
01:11:44.000 Never mind. 0.99
01:11:44.000 I get those two songs mixed up all the fucking time. 0.99
01:11:48.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:11:49.000 Totally different song.
01:11:50.000 But for sure, there's a guy out there.
01:11:52.000 I don't know.
01:11:53.000 Jimmy's going to try to find this guy.
01:11:54.000 But, yeah.
01:11:55.000 Well, it's weird that we still have hair in weird spots on our body.
01:11:59.000 Like that most of the body loses its hair in some strange way, except for the head.
01:12:07.000 And other weird spots like the pubes. 0.94
01:12:09.000 Like, what the fuck is going on with the human body in the first place? 0.95
01:12:11.000 It's so strange looking. 0.98
01:12:13.000 I remember reading an article about Iggy Pop back in his old Stooges days.
01:12:17.000 Yeah, there's the dude.
01:12:17.000 What's that?
01:12:18.000 There's the wrestler dude. 1.00
01:12:20.000 Look at the hair on this motherfucker. 0.99
01:12:23.000 Georgie Katoev. 1.00
01:12:25.000 I mean, this guy's mostly a gorilla.
01:12:27.000 That dude's mostly a gorilla. 0.65
01:12:30.000 Look at that.
01:12:30.000 I ain't messing around.
01:12:31.000 Get this on the fucking camera. 0.99
01:12:32.000 You got some hair, too. 1.00
01:12:34.000 Look at that picture, though.
01:12:34.000 Jesus Christ.
01:12:35.000 That's a goddamn gorilla. 1.00
01:12:37.000 This dude's a gorilla. 1.00
01:12:38.000 And he also has a Spanish bullion around his neck.
01:12:40.000 From the Pinta, I believe.
01:12:42.000 I think he borrowed it from Florida, Georgia.
01:12:43.000 He took it from him.
01:12:44.000 Give to me, or I break neck.
01:12:47.000 You're talking about hair you need?
01:12:48.000 Because I'll never forget the article.
01:12:50.000 I was reading about Iggy and the Stooges.
01:12:52.000 And Iggy popped some, you know, he was on drugs or whatever, put glitter all over his face.
01:12:56.000 And he shaved his eyebrows, put glitter all over his face, and then he went on stage.
01:13:00.000 And it was so funny.
01:13:01.000 The guitarist goes, and that's when we realized why you had eyebrows.
01:13:05.000 Yeah.
01:13:05.000 Because he was sweating and all the glitter was getting in his eyes.
01:13:08.000 Oh my god.
01:13:10.000 Oh, so he's getting glitter in his eyeball?
01:13:12.000 In his eyeball because he thought it would be cool to shave his eyebrows. 1.00
01:13:15.000 It's like, you don't think about that shit until you get it. 1.00
01:13:18.000 That must be brutal. 1.00
01:13:19.000 Glitter in your eyeballs? 1.00
01:13:21.000 Holy shit, how did he clean that out? 1.00
01:13:22.000 He's Iggy Pop. 0.99
01:13:23.000 He's probably still in there.
01:13:24.000 Is he still alive?
01:13:25.000 Yeah, he's touring right now.
01:13:26.000 Is he?
01:13:27.000 He just made a new record.
01:13:28.000 That guy, I'd like to find out what he eats.
01:13:30.000 He's got to be on a ketogenic diet.
01:13:32.000 He's always super lean.
01:13:33.000 You know Josh Ami from Queens of the Stone Age?
01:13:35.000 Yes.
01:13:36.000 He just did his new record.
01:13:37.000 With Iggy Pop?
01:13:38.000 Yeah.
01:13:38.000 Wow.
01:13:39.000 That would be amazing.
01:13:41.000 It's really good.
01:13:42.000 See, they're a great example.
01:13:43.000 Queens of the Stone Age are a great example of a band that's really hard to pin down.
01:13:47.000 Like, say, what are they like?
01:13:48.000 You'd go, ooh, man, I don't know.
01:13:52.000 They've got their own thing going on, man.
01:13:53.000 There's certain Queens of the Stone Age songs where you listen to like a part of it and you go, oh, that's Queens of the Stone Age.
01:13:59.000 You know what I mean?
01:14:00.000 You just know.
01:14:00.000 Look at that.
01:14:01.000 There they are, yeah.
01:14:02.000 Bam.
01:14:02.000 Iggy Pop's still looking good.
01:14:04.000 The guy's always shredded.
01:14:05.000 I always wonder, like, is that just from running around on stage?
01:14:08.000 Does he exercise?
01:14:08.000 I saw him once at the Stooges reunion.
01:14:10.000 I've never seen a guy give it.
01:14:12.000 He was better than Jagger, I thought.
01:14:13.000 I've never seen a guy give it his all. 0.99
01:14:15.000 He still fucking rocks. 0.99
01:14:17.000 Well, you rarely hear people talk about him. 1.00
01:14:19.000 Look at his skin. 1.00
01:14:21.000 He's like a leather-bound book that they find in a cabin to summon demons.
01:14:26.000 At that age, still giving the middle finger.
01:14:28.000 Well, that's important.
01:14:29.000 Never give up on the middle finger.
01:14:31.000 He never gets that old enough.
01:14:32.000 How old is he?
01:14:33.000 I don't know.
01:14:34.000 He's gotta be...
01:14:35.000 But he's in that ageless area where he's just... 0.99
01:14:38.000 He did a lot of shit with Bowie, and he's got a... 0.99
01:14:41.000 How old was Bowie? 0.99
01:14:42.000 Mid-60s?
01:14:43.000 What does it say, Jamie?
01:14:44.000 Doesn't say?
01:14:45.000 Does it say his birth?
01:14:46.000 Uh-uh.
01:14:46.000 What?
01:14:47.000 No.
01:14:48.000 Come on, son.
01:14:48.000 Go to Wikipedia.
01:14:50.000 It says his fucking birth. 0.99
01:14:51.000 What does it say over there? 1.00
01:14:52.000 How dare you?
01:14:54.000 1968. What, are you trying to pretend he's a mystery?
01:14:56.000 Usually it pops right up on Google when it just says it.
01:14:59.000 But you just can't assume that it's not out there.
01:15:01.000 He's almost 70, right?
01:15:02.000 Yeah, he's almost 70. That's a, you know, people still rocking out almost fucking 70. Yeah, he's an animal. 0.99
01:15:08.000 That's crazy.
01:15:09.000 Yeah, it was cool. 0.99
01:15:09.000 Like you were saying, you know, Queen of Stonehenge does whatever the fuck they want. 0.99
01:15:13.000 I'm sure there was no one who was like, there's a bunch of money for you. 0.94
01:15:17.000 Go produce and tour.
01:15:18.000 But they're on a label, right?
01:15:18.000 Aren't they?
01:15:19.000 No, well, they're on an indie label.
01:15:20.000 Oh, are they?
01:15:21.000 Yeah.
01:15:21.000 I wonder how much influence an indie label has on them.
01:15:23.000 None, because they can do whatever, you know.
01:15:25.000 Well, that's the future.
01:15:27.000 We'll see, yeah.
01:15:28.000 You don't need people anymore.
01:15:29.000 And it's also the people that were there, they didn't exactly serve the best interests of the work.
01:15:34.000 You know, the people that are making these pop songs.
01:15:37.000 Like, you know, they put together a band like Menudo or something like that.
01:15:40.000 Why Menudo?
01:15:41.000 Where did I come up with that?
01:15:42.000 I kind of like that.
01:15:43.000 Who remembers them?
01:15:44.000 Do you remember Menudo?
01:15:45.000 I remember them.
01:15:48.000 Milli Vanilli or something like that.
01:15:49.000 Just a perfect example of just a creation.
01:15:52.000 I mean, they weren't even singing the real songs, right?
01:15:54.000 That's just a creation.
01:15:55.000 Get two handsome black dudes. 0.99
01:15:56.000 And they were also the only ones who got busted.
01:15:58.000 There's millions of those.
01:15:59.000 You think so?
01:15:59.000 There's a lot of people that got busted that didn't, that did the exact same thing as they did?
01:16:03.000 Oh, absolutely.
01:16:03.000 I mean...
01:16:04.000 How did they get busted?
01:16:05.000 They got busted because one of the guys, um...
01:16:08.000 Found Jesus?
01:16:09.000 Something like that, I think, but he came clean.
01:16:11.000 He said, I can't go up there and perform these songs anymore.
01:16:15.000 Really?
01:16:16.000 Wow.
01:16:17.000 And he just came clean. 1.00
01:16:18.000 He must be like, I hate pussy and money. 1.00
01:16:20.000 I'm pretty sure during one of their concerts, their playback skipped. 1.00
01:16:24.000 No.
01:16:24.000 Well, that happened to What's-Her-Face on Saturday Night Live, too.
01:16:27.000 Yeah, I'm looking it up right now.
01:16:29.000 I think there's video of it. 0.99
01:16:30.000 But that shit happens all... 0.99
01:16:31.000 Who's the girl who skipped on SNL? The girl who's the sister. 0.99
01:16:34.000 Yeah, the girl with the giant tits. 1.00
01:16:36.000 Yeah, so they're trying to say... 1.00
01:16:38.000 That's how my brain works.
01:16:39.000 By the way, that's how your brain works?
01:16:42.000 You know what I was talking about, right?
01:16:44.000 In a second.
01:16:44.000 Jessica Simpson, right?
01:16:45.000 You're giving me a name, I wouldn't have known it.
01:16:48.000 Boy, what a body that girl's got. 1.00
01:16:50.000 Good lord.
01:16:50.000 That's a perfect example of why someone should stay thick.
01:16:53.000 Have you seen her lately?
01:16:54.000 Is she married?
01:16:55.000 Yeah, she's married to some football player dude.
01:16:57.000 No disrespect, sir. 1.00
01:16:58.000 Fuck. 1.00
01:16:59.000 Why the fuck I make this record if she's already married? 1.00
01:17:02.000 There's other ones like that. 1.00
01:17:03.000 That's good stock.
01:17:04.000 That's good southern stock.
01:17:05.000 She's probably from Canada. 0.99
01:17:06.000 Where is she from?
01:17:09.000 Texas?
01:17:09.000 That's what I'm saying, bro!
01:17:11.000 I knew! 1.00
01:17:12.000 Shit! 1.00
01:17:12.000 Hey, I think I'm doing some... 1.00
01:17:13.000 Am I doing dates in...
01:17:14.000 There were some Texas dates up there.
01:17:16.000 I hope so.
01:17:16.000 How dare you not?
01:17:17.000 Well, we're gonna do the...
01:17:18.000 I do know we're not doing Southeast until...
01:17:20.000 They want me to wait till...
01:17:21.000 There'll be Southeast dates up there.
01:17:23.000 How come you're waiting?
01:17:24.000 They want me to wait...
01:17:26.000 That one, actually, I listened to people on.
01:17:28.000 They said, wait till school's back in.
01:17:29.000 Because a lot of younger...
01:17:31.000 You know, all those SEC schools, you know...
01:17:34.000 Oh, okay.
01:17:34.000 Kentucky, Alabama, Georgia.
01:17:35.000 That makes sense.
01:17:36.000 Right, you gotta be in their town. 0.98
01:17:37.000 And also, I didn't want to do too many dates at one time because my fucking voice will go. 0.96
01:17:40.000 And also, I just don't... 0.94
01:17:41.000 I'm not doing those giant...
01:17:43.000 I want to go for a long weekend and come home.
01:17:45.000 I can't do it.
01:17:45.000 Right.
01:17:45.000 I'm too old.
01:17:46.000 I can't do those fucking long tours. 0.99
01:17:48.000 I hear exactly what you're saying. 0.98
01:17:49.000 How long do you go?
01:17:49.000 You only go out for a long weekend.
01:17:50.000 A couple days at a time.
01:17:51.000 Yeah.
01:17:52.000 I don't go out.
01:17:52.000 I don't do these.
01:17:53.000 Duncan does, though.
01:17:54.000 Duncan's doing a 30-day tour right now. 0.98
01:17:56.000 He's a maniac.
01:17:58.000 He got a bus, the whole deal. 1.00
01:17:59.000 I don't do that.
01:18:00.000 I did it once.
01:18:01.000 It's not fun.
01:18:02.000 It's not enjoyable.
01:18:02.000 Was it fun at the beginning?
01:18:04.000 No.
01:18:05.000 The shows were fun, but it's too many days where you wake up, you stare at the ceiling, you have no idea where you are.
01:18:11.000 You're like, where am I? All my friends who are musicians do that, especially now that we're getting older.
01:18:18.000 But it was crazy.
01:18:19.000 Even when we were younger, I was like, man, you're living the dream. 0.94
01:18:23.000 And they're just like, I know I'm supposed to be enjoying this, but it's just not fucking... 0.83
01:18:28.000 One thing that helps is to do it with people you really like. 0.71
01:18:30.000 That helps a lot. 0.99
01:18:31.000 There's lots of stuff that helps, but there's still, you know, when you're a kid, you're just like, oh, getting fucked up, getting pussy, playing rock and roll, playing country, whatever it is, sounds like the ultimate life, and these people not having fun doing it. 0.99
01:18:45.000 Well, they also should get a fucking real job and remember what it's like to have to go somewhere every morning. 0.99
01:18:50.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:18:51.000 And work all day for someone that sucks. 0.99
01:18:53.000 It's just easy to get complacent. 1.00
01:18:55.000 Oh, no.
01:18:56.000 It's easy to not feel gratitude.
01:18:57.000 I used to spend my summers as a farmhand back in Kentucky.
01:19:02.000 Really?
01:19:02.000 Yeah.
01:19:03.000 What kind of farms?
01:19:04.000 Mostly horse... 0.99
01:19:05.000 Lexington, there's a lot of, like, rich fucks who just buy these giant... 0.99
01:19:08.000 They're not, like, really working farms. 0.99
01:19:11.000 They're just, like, they build themselves a farm. 1.00
01:19:12.000 Like Kentucky Derby type shit? 1.00
01:19:13.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:19:13.000 They just, like... 0.99
01:19:14.000 You forget that with horse racing, it's one of the only sports where the owner is the main guy.
01:19:21.000 I've made billions.
01:19:22.000 I've always loved horses.
01:19:25.000 The person they put on the screen when the horse wins the Kentucky Derby is the owner.
01:19:29.000 So you can buy yourself into it.
01:19:31.000 You're like, oh, I've always loved horses.
01:19:33.000 The Kentucky Derby, the owner's the rider?
01:19:36.000 No, the jockeys.
01:19:37.000 But I'm saying, you don't know the jockeys. 1.00
01:19:38.000 You know who the fucking owner is. 1.00
01:19:40.000 Right. 1.00
01:19:41.000 That is weird, right?
01:19:42.000 It's the only sport where you know the real...
01:19:44.000 But he's not on the horse, but he's winning.
01:19:47.000 And he didn't train it.
01:19:48.000 He has a trainer. 0.71
01:19:48.000 He didn't do a damn thing. 0.71
01:19:49.000 They show the trainer, they show the jockey, they show the horse, but the real person they interview is the owner. 0.99
01:19:53.000 So you buy a big farm in Kentucky, have some dumbass like me, like Weedy, or whatever... 0.98
01:19:58.000 Did you ever read the Kentucky Derby is decadent and depraved? 1.00
01:20:01.000 Oh, I fucking... 1.00
01:20:01.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:20:02.000 Hunter S. Thompson, another Kentucky guy who's a hero of mine.
01:20:04.000 The best.
01:20:05.000 He was the best.
01:20:06.000 I mean, that's what started... 0.99
01:20:07.000 What a fucking... 1.00
01:20:07.000 What a barbarian he was. 1.00
01:20:09.000 Fucking insane. 1.00
01:20:09.000 He was the best. 1.00
01:20:11.000 There's some pieces that he wrote to this day. 0.99
01:20:13.000 I'll read and I'll go, fucking... 0.98
01:20:15.000 I still think, you know, Fear and Loathing is one of my favorite books of all time. 0.99
01:20:21.000 Oh, Fear and Loathing is outstanding.
01:20:23.000 And you remember when they did that thing where Johnny Depp read the passage that he talked about, like, the change that was coming in the 1970s and how it all pulled back and that he saw it all happen?
01:20:35.000 I mean, he was the perfect guy to capture.
01:20:37.000 Oh, in the movie? 0.99
01:20:38.000 The movie was fucking great. 0.98
01:20:39.000 Johnny Depp was the perfect guy, but I mean, Hunter was the perfect guy to capture because he had been in the 60s in Berkeley during the acid times and, you know, the Timothy Leary and the Merry Pranksters and all that shit. 0.98
01:20:49.000 He had been with those guys and the Ken Keseys and then when it all pulled away and everybody just got locked up and went to jail and the war on drugs and all the things happened, he saw this death of the American dream and he put it so eloquently and then Johnny Depp, pretending to be him,
01:21:05.000 did it for a scene in that movie and it's... 0.96
01:21:07.000 Fucking sensational. 0.96
01:21:09.000 I wonder, too, if it's because Johnny Depp's also from Kentucky. 0.98
01:21:12.000 He's also a good friend of his.
01:21:13.000 They were friends.
01:21:14.000 If you're from the same place and you're friends, it kind of probably seeps into you a little bit.
01:21:20.000 It certainly helps.
01:21:21.000 And Johnny stayed with him.
01:21:22.000 Like, when he was doing that movie, he stayed with him for a long time.
01:21:24.000 He lived with him.
01:21:25.000 But that book is a perfect example of, like... 0.99
01:21:28.000 Real, just, first of all, laugh out loud funny shit. 0.99
01:21:31.000 The funniest shit you've ever read. 0.99
01:21:32.000 Well, how about the way it opens up? 1.00
01:21:34.000 But so fucking, he can really, he goes deep, emotionally, you forget, he goes fucking deep in that. 0.97
01:21:39.000 Yeah, it is a great book. 0.99
01:21:41.000 That's his, well, between that and, there's a few things that he wrote, like small pieces that he wrote too, that just go, ugh.
01:21:48.000 There were some pieces right before he died that he wrote, I think it was on ESPN's website, that kind of predicted the whole world that was going to happen.
01:21:57.000 Yeah, that was when, after 9-11.
01:21:59.000 Yeah, check out those articles, man.
01:22:00.000 It was almost like he checked out because he knew what was going to happen.
01:22:05.000 Yeah, he was also like a serious alcoholic to the point where when he was almost dead, you couldn't even understand him anymore.
01:22:12.000 He would do shows.
01:22:13.000 He would do like, um, Conan, or not Conan.
01:22:16.000 Yeah, he did Conan.
01:22:17.000 He did Conan actually was one of the worst where they went out shooting. 0.94
01:22:20.000 They went to Woody Creek and they went shooting and Hunter was fucking hammered the entire time. 0.99
01:22:25.000 They're shooting guns in Colorado and you literally can't understand a fucking word he's saying. 1.00
01:22:29.000 He would get up and just get fucked up all fucking day. 1.00
01:22:32.000 He was so fucked up, though, that it was starting... 1.00
01:22:34.000 It was like he had poisoned his brain. 1.00
01:22:37.000 Yeah, that's...
01:22:37.000 You know what I mean?
01:22:38.000 Like, he had also been on serious pain pills because he had hip replacements.
01:22:43.000 I think both of his hips went bad, and...
01:22:46.000 Back then, dude, when they were doing hip replacements, it ain't like today.
01:22:49.000 Like, those hips weren't so good. 0.99
01:22:51.000 Like, today, they've got it down pretty good.
01:22:52.000 Where I've had some friends that got hip replacements, and they don't feel any pain.
01:22:56.000 It's amazing.
01:22:57.000 It's just they've replaced this socket with an artificial socket.
01:23:00.000 That used to be the old thing.
01:23:02.000 It's like, major surgery.
01:23:03.000 You don't hear much...
01:23:04.000 Well, dude, Graham Hancock was in here six weeks after he got a hip replacement, and he was walking without a limp. 0.93
01:23:10.000 I was like, how is that fucking possible? 0.96
01:23:12.000 And he's like, it's crazy. 0.99
01:23:13.000 And Graham was like in his 60s, right?
01:23:16.000 How old is Graham?
01:23:17.000 I think he's like maybe 60. At the very least, he's in his late 50s, and he got a hip replacement.
01:23:23.000 I remember when old people used to get, you know, had to get hip replacements.
01:23:26.000 It's like how you do they were about to check out.
01:23:28.000 Yeah, man. 0.88
01:23:29.000 And it was an ugly, ugly, ugly operation. 1.00
01:23:32.000 When they did it, they'd saw off your fucking femur and screw a bolt in there. 0.99
01:23:37.000 And it's like there was a rod that had to go deep in your bone, and your bone has to take over that rod. 0.99
01:23:45.000 How old's Graham?
01:23:46.000 65. So he's probably 62 or 63. And he got his hip replaced.
01:23:50.000 And six weeks later, he's walking without a limp.
01:23:52.000 It's crazy.
01:23:53.000 That's awesome. 0.99
01:23:54.000 I mean, yeah, they're fucking... 0.98
01:23:55.000 I have a buddy who's a jiu-jitsu guy. 0.99
01:23:57.000 He's in his 30s.
01:23:58.000 He got both his hips replaced.
01:23:59.000 In his 30s.
01:24:01.000 And that's just from training and wrestling.
01:24:04.000 So how long ago would that surgery take you out?
01:24:07.000 Not that long.
01:24:07.000 10 years ago, like you couldn't even do it, really?
01:24:08.000 Yeah, 10 years ago, you'd be done.
01:24:10.000 And everything after that, you'd be done. 1.00
01:24:12.000 You'd be fucked. 1.00
01:24:13.000 You'd be in, like, real problems. 1.00
01:24:14.000 Well, it's a guy...
01:24:15.000 Because I watch, as any Kentuckian, I watch a lot of basketball.
01:24:18.000 That guy, Paul George...
01:24:20.000 Is he the guy I'm thinking about?
01:24:21.000 He broke his leg something awful last...
01:24:25.000 They were like, his career's over.
01:24:28.000 And I think he had a good season.
01:24:30.000 He did well this season.
01:24:31.000 It was as if nothing had happened. 1.00
01:24:33.000 His fucking bone came out of his fucking leg. 1.00
01:24:36.000 Those are dangerous, too. 1.00
01:24:37.000 And he, uh...
01:24:38.000 Can you see a picture of it?
01:24:40.000 Sure.
01:24:41.000 Oh, no, I can't look at the picture.
01:24:42.000 Oh, my God.
01:24:47.000 He's back now all-star.
01:24:48.000 All-star. 1.00
01:24:49.000 Damn. 1.00
01:24:50.000 This is last year, right? 1.00
01:24:52.000 It was a couple years ago.
01:24:53.000 Two years ago, and he's an all-star this year.
01:24:55.000 That's incredible.
01:24:55.000 It's like just snapped.
01:24:56.000 But now, you know, they have all this way of healing things.
01:25:01.000 They use all sorts of different methods to accelerate healing.
01:25:05.000 They're getting so good at it. 0.91
01:25:07.000 Doctors are just fucking unbelievable at it now. 0.95
01:25:10.000 This is an incredible time to be injured. 0.95
01:25:13.000 If you get injured now, they fix you in a way that just wasn't available.
01:25:16.000 I have two replaced ACLs, but I have a buddy of mine, my friend Steve, who was on the ski team, the US ski team, in the 1980s.
01:25:24.000 He's a badass skier in the 1980s, and his knees are devastated.
01:25:30.000 He's had, and I would actually have to call him to confirm this, but I know he's had more than 20 knee surgeries. 0.96
01:25:37.000 How do you fucking go through that? 0.99
01:25:39.000 He's an animal. 1.00
01:25:39.000 He doesn't give a fuck. 1.00
01:25:40.000 This guy's crazy. 1.00
01:25:41.000 Yeah, he's in his 60s. 0.99
01:25:42.000 He still fights.
01:25:43.000 He still goes to the gym and spars.
01:25:44.000 He's thinking about competing. 1.00
01:25:45.000 It's almost like going to the fucking dentist at that point. 0.99
01:25:48.000 Or getting a haircut or something. 1.00
01:25:50.000 He's just an animal.
01:25:51.000 There's certain people that pain is a non-factor to.
01:25:55.000 It's about functionality and movement.
01:25:57.000 What is that?
01:25:58.000 Whoa, look at it poking out of the skin right there.
01:26:01.000 Holy jeez.
01:26:01.000 Is that the Louisville guy?
01:26:03.000 Yeah.
01:26:04.000 That's hardcore, dude.
01:26:05.000 You know how hardcore that is?
01:26:07.000 Yeah.
01:26:08.000 I felt for the guy. 0.99
01:26:09.000 And I fucking hate Louisville. 1.00
01:26:11.000 So that means it's serious shit. 1.00
01:26:13.000 That is serious. 1.00
01:26:13.000 It looks like it tore through the skin and all the muscle and everything too. 1.00
01:26:16.000 Like that is a serious catastrophic injury.
01:26:18.000 I remember that happened.
01:26:19.000 It was live on television.
01:26:20.000 They were worried about that with the Octagon.
01:26:23.000 They were worried about that ever happening.
01:26:25.000 You know, the only breaks we've seen on legs and arms have been non-compound breaks.
01:26:29.000 But I think when it happens like that guy just had it, it becomes more problematic because when it breaks the skin, you have all this possibility for infection that exists.
01:26:36.000 It gets real bad.
01:26:37.000 Well, I remember them really fast going over there with a towel and covering it up because it was on live TV and they covered it up.
01:26:43.000 Well, that's because they didn't want people to see it probably, right?
01:26:45.000 No, that's what I'm saying. 1.00
01:26:47.000 We live in a world where the first reaction was, get this shit off TV. Yeah. 1.00
01:26:52.000 Why not go to a fucking commercial? 0.99
01:26:54.000 Well, isn't it funny, man, that, like, movies... 1.00
01:26:56.000 There's every big action movie that you go to, you watch somebody die.
01:27:01.000 Every one of them.
01:27:02.000 Yeah, like, it's no big deal. 1.00
01:27:03.000 But if people fuck, it becomes a disgrace. 1.00
01:27:05.000 It's a real problem. 1.00
01:27:06.000 It's a disaster.
01:27:07.000 Like, if you actually watch...
01:27:08.000 Do you remember that Brown Bunny movie where, uh, Vincent... 0.99
01:27:11.000 What the fuck's his name? 0.99
01:27:12.000 Gallo. 1.00
01:27:12.000 He had a movie where Chloe... 1.00
01:27:14.000 Yeah, she fucking sucked his dick. 1.00
01:27:16.000 She sucked his dick in the movie. 1.00
01:27:17.000 That's the only reason I saw it. 1.00
01:27:18.000 Yeah, that's the only reason why I saw it, too.
01:27:20.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:27:20.000 It seemed like the whole movie was just, like, getting to the blowjob. 0.98
01:27:24.000 Like, I was like, blah, blah, blah, let's cut to the scene here. 0.99
01:27:27.000 But why isn't it in there if I can go home and get on a fucking website in two seconds and see all that shit? 0.99
01:27:31.000 Well, I think his idea was, why can't we have a real sex scene? 0.99
01:27:36.000 Like, if you can have, like, people kissing for real and rubbing each other for real, but you know intellectually that they're not actually having sex, but...
01:27:45.000 It's supposed to be a sex scene. 0.99
01:27:47.000 So if you have these two people, Vincent Gallo and Chloe, that are adults, and they agree.
01:27:54.000 They agree.
01:27:55.000 Like, I think you're attractive, or I'm willing to do this, or I think it'd be cool to do this in the film.
01:27:59.000 I want to actually give you head in this movie. 0.71
01:28:02.000 Why is that bad?
01:28:03.000 So it was real?
01:28:04.000 It was 100% real.
01:28:05.000 It came on her face and everything. 1.00
01:28:06.000 Like, she sucked his dick. 1.00
01:28:08.000 Like a champ. 1.00
01:28:09.000 Outstanding. 1.00
01:28:10.000 But it's weird that everybody, I assume, has gotten their dick sucked. 1.00
01:28:16.000 I assume. 1.00
01:28:16.000 If you haven't, I feel so bad for you. 1.00
01:28:18.000 If you haven't put out a fucking record like mine, man. 1.00
01:28:21.000 Non-stop. 1.00
01:28:22.000 That's what happens? 1.00
01:28:23.000 Non-stop dick sucking? 1.00
01:28:25.000 I wish I had fucking two dicks right now. 1.00
01:28:28.000 When you did that video for Eatin' Pussy and Suckin' Dick or Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass. 1.00
01:28:33.000 Suckin' Dick doesn't come in until the end. 1.00
01:28:36.000 That audience, what was going on there?
01:28:39.000 Did they have any ideas?
01:28:40.000 I was told, because I got kind of thrown.
01:28:42.000 They told just an audience that you're just going to watch a guy just sing country.
01:28:48.000 I didn't know that they had told them that.
01:28:49.000 But there was only like 15 people in there.
01:28:51.000 Nah, I feel like there was more like 100, 50, 100. And so they were just waiting for a country song, which I found out later.
01:28:57.000 And then when I got to... 1.00
01:28:59.000 Even though eating pussy, their faces fucking dropped. 1.00
01:29:02.000 I knew this is not my best gig. 1.00
01:29:04.000 And then I was like, we got to get to the dick sucking, which is going to ramp it up a notch. 0.99
01:29:11.000 And... 0.99
01:29:13.000 Then a couple people walked out and weren't too happy, but I'll tell you what, it's one for the ages. 0.99
01:29:18.000 It certainly got the shit out there. 0.98
01:29:21.000 I was amazed that nobody yelled anything out. 0.99
01:29:22.000 Nobody told you to stop.
01:29:24.000 Well, I think they were...
01:29:26.000 Someone told me that they were extras, so I think they probably locked...
01:29:29.000 Oh, okay. 0.98
01:29:32.000 I didn't know I was walking into a fucking Ali G kind of thing. 0.99
01:29:35.000 Oh, that's funny. 1.00
01:29:36.000 I'm just there to play this fucking Dirty Country song. 1.00
01:29:38.000 Oh, that's funny. 1.00
01:29:39.000 So they just hired some country-looking people.
01:29:41.000 No, I think they hired people who said they were fans of country music.
01:29:45.000 Okay.
01:29:45.000 And then they said, do you want to be a part of a music video?
01:29:48.000 Just have a seat.
01:29:49.000 Yeah.
01:29:49.000 Because you could see, like, there's a guy...
01:29:51.000 Paul, why don't you play it, Jamie?
01:29:52.000 Play it.
01:29:53.000 What's the video called? 1.00
01:29:54.000 It's called Eatin' Pussy and Kickin' Ass. 1.00
01:29:59.000 Play at least a second from the one on the album. 1.00
01:30:02.000 Okay, but the one...
01:30:03.000 I want to watch the one from The Ben Show.
01:30:07.000 What was the falling out with Ben? 0.99
01:30:08.000 He's just fucking out. 0.99
01:30:09.000 He didn't even pay me for that. 1.00
01:30:10.000 Really?
01:30:11.000 He didn't pay me for the music or even the appearance.
01:30:14.000 That's so rude.
01:30:15.000 But look, you have the last laugh.
01:30:17.000 Here it goes.
01:30:17.000 What's he doing now?
01:30:20.000 These people in the audience, they couldn't be any better.
01:30:25.000 I like the American flag.
01:30:27.000 See, I didn't have a beer at the time, so they're like, watch it. 0.96
01:30:30.000 And I didn't want to, I was scared about getting myself out there, so I put on a fake fucking goatee so they wouldn't know who I was. 1.00
01:30:39.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:30:43.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:30:45.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:30:46.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:30:49.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:30:51.000 That's what I do. 1.00
01:30:54.000 They don't know what to do with you. 1.00
01:30:56.000 Pussy in the morning, pussy in the night. 1.00
01:30:59.000 Eat a lot of pussy, then I get into a fight. 1.00
01:31:04.000 Look at her! 1.00
01:31:06.000 Thursday night, I was feeling pretty good.
01:31:08.000 I was walking down the boulevard of Hollywood.
01:31:12.000 I see this young girl, she's smiling at me.
01:31:15.000 So I took her back to my hotel and paid the fee. 1.00
01:31:20.000 I knew that something was wrong where they're supposed to be a pussy. 1.00
01:31:23.000 This girl had a dog. 1.00
01:31:26.000 Hold on, keep going a little bit. 1.00
01:31:28.000 Anyway, I sucked his dick, and then I kicked his ass. 1.00
01:31:32.000 Sucking dick. 1.00
01:31:34.000 Kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:36.000 Sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:39.000 Sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:41.000 Sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:45.000 Eating pussy, sucking dick, and kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:51.000 Eating pussy, sucking dick, and kicking ass. 1.00
01:31:52.000 Eating pussy, sucking dick, and kicking ass. 1.00
01:32:02.000 Oh, I love that video. 1.00
01:32:04.000 I look like a fucking little kid there. 0.99
01:32:05.000 Did anybody get mad at you after that was over? 1.00
01:32:07.000 No, because I just went back to this fucking trailer and I never even talked to him again. 0.82
01:32:13.000 Can you go to the version of that? 0.99
01:32:15.000 I want you to hear what a great fucking producer he is. 0.98
01:32:18.000 Okay, go to the... 0.99
01:32:19.000 There's another version of that, Jamie, that's just the album.
01:32:23.000 You just see the cover photo, and then you hear the music.
01:32:26.000 Same song.
01:32:27.000 Here we go, folks.
01:32:28.000 Here's the produced version of it. 0.99
01:32:31.000 Oh, fuck yeah. 1.00
01:32:33.000 Yeah, all right, man. 1.00
01:32:36.000 More feeling, buddy. 0.99
01:32:38.000 Keep it in mind, I'm fucking yelling at the man. 0.99
01:32:41.000 This is good. 0.99
01:33:02.000 Dude, I'm fucking 12 years old. 0.99
01:33:04.000 I really am. 1.00
01:33:05.000 That's what happens when you don't censor yourself.
01:33:07.000 You become a kid again, you know?
01:33:08.000 I'm always like this.
01:33:10.000 This is my kind of music.
01:33:13.000 Well, it's bigger than Winona. 0.99
01:33:17.000 That is so ridiculous. 1.00
01:33:18.000 I want to hear the second part about sucking dick and ass. 1.00
01:33:21.000 Let's keep it going. 1.00
01:33:22.000 This version's probably long, right? 1.00
01:33:24.000 Maybe fast forward to the sucking dick. 1.00
01:33:28.000 Try to find this dick sucking part, please. 1.00
01:33:30.000 When you're in a studio, you kind of milk it. 1.00
01:33:32.000 Is there more verses in this one?
01:33:34.000 Yeah.
01:33:37.000 Oh man, I went on forever.
01:33:38.000 Once you're money, you just keep playing.
01:33:42.000 So you had a bunch of these in this one, not just two.
01:33:45.000 I like that you went right from one to the next in front of those people.
01:33:52.000 Oh, here we go.
01:33:53.000 I see this young girl, she smiled at me, so I took her back to my place and I played for you.
01:34:04.000 By the way, on the end of this, you can hear the fan actually get pissed. 1.00
01:34:08.000 I was bored, and since I paid any way, I sucked his dick, and then I kicked his ass. 1.00
01:34:15.000 Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. 1.00
01:34:18.000 Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. 1.00
01:34:20.000 That's the drummer, Chris, on the background. 1.00
01:34:23.000 How good does his voice sound?
01:34:24.000 That low voice? 1.00
01:34:25.000 Suckin' dick, kickin' ass. 1.00
01:34:29.000 Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:34:31.000 Come on, buddy. 1.00
01:34:33.000 Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:34:36.000 Pussy sucking dick and kicking ass. 1.00
01:34:42.000 I'm over here sweating. 1.00
01:34:44.000 Oh, listen. 0.99
01:34:45.000 God damn it! 1.00
01:34:46.000 Fucking play, motherfucker! 1.00
01:34:51.000 Where'd everybody go? 1.00
01:34:54.000 What are they mad about?
01:34:56.000 They didn't know how I was going.
01:34:57.000 Same thing, because they didn't watch that clip.
01:34:59.000 They didn't know where I was going.
01:35:00.000 But there's a song, Sit On My Face, that's the one that people keep requesting.
01:35:03.000 So they literally didn't know where you were going with that song?
01:35:05.000 Well, they knew...
01:35:06.000 The record people.
01:35:08.000 There's no record?
01:35:09.000 I mean, it's me.
01:35:09.000 I mean, the people you were doing it with.
01:35:10.000 I told the producer, like, don't tell... 0.99
01:35:12.000 It's getting pussy-kicking ass, and don't tell them about the... 0.99
01:35:15.000 Oh, don't tell the other artists. 1.00
01:35:17.000 Don't tell the drummer, guitar player, and the, you know, bass player that it's gonna go to the sucking dick, because they hadn't seen the clip. 0.95
01:35:24.000 So they love the song, and they still like it, you know, they still love it, but, you know, it would be funny to, uh... 1.00
01:35:30.000 I thought it'd be funny to fuck with them, because I always just like fucking with people, you know? 0.99
01:35:34.000 And, uh... 1.00
01:35:36.000 I don't know.
01:35:37.000 What were they talking about?
01:35:38.000 They didn't even get high.
01:35:40.000 Uh, Sit On My Face.
01:35:41.000 Oh yeah, it's a new one people are always requesting. 1.00
01:35:43.000 But listen to this on some country shit, man. 0.99
01:36:00.000 Yeah, ain't much to look at. 1.00
01:36:06.000 You got saggy titties, but tonight it'll lose. 0.98
01:36:11.000 Cause I learned a lesson a long time ago. 0.99
01:36:16.000 Beggars can't be choosin' when the bar starts to close. 1.00
01:36:22.000 Sit on my face cause I ain't too picky and ride my mile till your pussy gets sticky and all. 1.00
01:36:31.000 I mean, that's some good country shit, you know? 1.00
01:36:32.000 It's good! 0.99
01:36:33.000 You tell me there's better country music out there than that right there.
01:36:36.000 The music is good. 0.99
01:36:38.000 Well, we got the best fucking record out there right now, I'm telling you. 0.98
01:36:42.000 But what's good is, like, the sounds are good. 0.98
01:36:45.000 Like, I like the way it starts.
01:36:46.000 It's like, it's cool.
01:36:48.000 It pulls you in.
01:36:48.000 It's the, like I said, best producer, best players in Nashville doing this.
01:36:53.000 And they had a fucking blast. 0.95
01:36:55.000 I mean, like I said, I'm gonna get banned from Music Robot. 1.00
01:36:58.000 I don't give a fuck. 0.99
01:36:59.000 Who cares? 1.00
01:37:00.000 They're dead.
01:37:01.000 They're all dead in the water.
01:37:02.000 You can't sell records anymore.
01:37:03.000 Nobody sells records.
01:37:04.000 You sell things on iTunes.
01:37:06.000 Exactly.
01:37:06.000 Nobody's buying records.
01:37:08.000 What percentage of records actually get bought?
01:37:10.000 How many people have a CD in their house anymore?
01:37:12.000 It's none.
01:37:13.000 It's all gone. 0.98
01:37:14.000 I don't even know how to get the CD onto my fucking phone anymore. 0.99
01:37:17.000 I've had two cars in a row at a three-year lease where I never put a single fucking thing in the CD holder. 0.99
01:37:22.000 You know the little CD slot? 0.99
01:37:24.000 It's in two fucking cars in a row. 0.99
01:37:26.000 Two leases, three-year leases. 0.99
01:37:28.000 So I haven't used a CD in six years at least.
01:37:31.000 You want to hear something funny? 0.99
01:37:32.000 Like you're saying, it's about selling the other shit. 0.99
01:37:34.000 Well, selling them on iTunes. 0.99
01:37:37.000 We're talking about like merch so we have this that shirt I gave you with the logo on it and a bunch of people were kept emailing me to That they I wish I had an example of it, but they kept email By they kept emailing me that we don't have fat fuck sizes.
01:37:52.000 That was what their literal words I get that at higherprimate.com too. 0.84
01:37:55.000 People always get mad at me. 0.99
01:37:56.000 So I go I call the merch people I go Make some fat fuck sizes. 0.99
01:38:00.000 And they're like, you mean like double X? I go, yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:38:03.000 They go, also, underneath in red letters, I want it to say fat fuck size under the logo. 1.00
01:38:07.000 Whoa. 0.99
01:38:08.000 And they're like, seriously?
01:38:10.000 I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
01:38:11.000 If you're fat fuck, you, you know, you gotta wear this shirt. 1.00
01:38:13.000 We're proud. 1.00
01:38:14.000 We can't keep them in stock. 0.98
01:38:16.000 You can buy a Wheeler Walk on my website, on my fucking, whatever, merch store. 0.97
01:38:20.000 You can buy a Wheeler Walk. 1.00
01:38:21.000 Not only can you buy fat fucks, if you're a fat fuck, you can't buy the regular shirt. 1.00
01:38:25.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:38:26.000 You have to lose the weight or you got to buy a fat fuck size. 1.00
01:38:30.000 Every double XL, triple XL says fat fuck size, big red letters. 1.00
01:38:33.000 Beautiful. 0.99
01:38:34.000 And like I said, we can't keep them in stock.
01:38:37.000 I bet a lot of girls are sleeping in them, like 90s. 1.00
01:38:39.000 Yeah.
01:38:40.000 I mean, you should see, one girl sent me a picture of her in the shirt. 1.00
01:38:43.000 It goes to her fucking feet. 1.00
01:38:44.000 You know, it's like she put a belt around it and go, you know. 1.00
01:38:48.000 Go out for the night like it's a dress.
01:38:50.000 So you were about that far away from quitting music. 1.00
01:38:54.000 There it is, fat fuck size. 1.00
01:38:56.000 Only 20 bucks. 1.00
01:38:57.000 That's a good deal, dude.
01:38:59.000 You were like that close to quitting music, and now everything's happening.
01:39:03.000 No, yeah, no.
01:39:04.000 This was...
01:39:06.000 This is it.
01:39:07.000 This is my parting song. 0.99
01:39:09.000 I'm going to play my final show, and we're going to fucking... 0.99
01:39:11.000 I'm going to go back to Kentucky, live on, you know, farm, try to, you know, had an ex and all that kind of bullshit. 0.99
01:39:19.000 And I was like, this was my parting gift as, you know, like a game show or something. 0.95
01:39:23.000 And then...
01:39:24.000 I got a call, like...
01:39:26.000 Actually, it was before it came out.
01:39:27.000 They're like, we think it's gonna sell. 1.00
01:39:30.000 And my manager's a fucking piece of shit, dumbass. 1.00
01:39:33.000 But he's like... 1.00
01:39:35.000 And he was about to move on to find another job himself.
01:39:39.000 And then it's...
01:39:40.000 It's...
01:39:41.000 You... 1.00
01:39:43.000 Going to the studio, not giving a shit, putting out an album about how fucking shitty your life is and how everything's going to shit, and not giving a shit what people think, this is the one that's gonna work, you know? 1.00
01:39:55.000 So we call, he's like, you're, you know, like I said, we had a bunch of pre-sales, too. 0.99
01:40:02.000 Like, I guess on iTunes you can buy it before it comes out.
01:40:05.000 So we knew before that week.
01:40:06.000 They're like, the pre-sales, like, you're not, the number, he...
01:40:11.000 My people called Amazon and iTunes thinking there was a mistake on both of them.
01:40:17.000 They're like, how can...
01:40:17.000 Because we only put out a couple songs on YouTube.
01:40:20.000 How does it sound this fucking much?
01:40:22.000 Like, it's a decimal point in the wrong place. 0.94
01:40:24.000 And Amazon asked for a new shipment. 0.99
01:40:27.000 We didn't even have the fucking CD. We had to go print more. 0.99
01:40:29.000 We made like a thousand or something.
01:40:33.000 Are you going to do another one? 1.00
01:40:35.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00
01:40:35.000 You gonna keep going? 1.00
01:40:36.000 No, the thing is, I was gonna quit, and now it's like, fuck that, you know. 1.00
01:40:39.000 Well, this seems like it'd be fun to write this shit, too. 0.99
01:40:41.000 Well, that's why it is. 0.99
01:40:42.000 Well, that's the whole point, is making music and writing songs is supposed to be fun, and when you write from the heart, and you write without censoring yourself, the unfun part is trying to fit your nasty thoughts into something clean.
01:40:55.000 That's where it becomes unfun. 1.00
01:40:57.000 Do you think you're gonna do a musical video for which one of you queers gonna suck my dick? 1.00
01:41:01.000 Um, I'd like to. 1.00
01:41:03.000 We're talking to Spielberg about it right now.
01:41:07.000 He wants to do it, it's just a budget issue right now.
01:41:09.000 Where do you want to do it?
01:41:10.000 What?
01:41:11.000 In California?
01:41:12.000 Want to do it in like Santa Monica?
01:41:13.000 Well, it's up to him.
01:41:14.000 I think, you know, maybe...
01:41:15.000 I'd love to do it in Europe somewhere.
01:41:17.000 Somewhere in Europe would be good. 0.99
01:41:18.000 Yeah, like really Euro-gay guys? 1.00
01:41:21.000 Yeah, I mean, I want to do it the right...
01:41:22.000 That's the right way. 1.00
01:41:24.000 That's a song you don't take that shit lightly. 0.99
01:41:26.000 You do it the right way or you don't do it. 1.00
01:41:27.000 There are different kind of gay people in Europe, right?
01:41:30.000 What do you mean?
01:41:31.000 They wear better clothes.
01:41:32.000 They're like...
01:41:33.000 You mean a higher class?
01:41:34.000 Super coiffed.
01:41:35.000 Yeah, probably.
01:41:36.000 I don't know.
01:41:37.000 The ones...
01:41:37.000 They wear makeup.
01:41:38.000 They have their hair done right.
01:41:39.000 Maybe I will do it in Europe.
01:41:40.000 Do it.
01:41:41.000 Yeah.
01:41:42.000 Like a Bruno thing.
01:41:43.000 You know, remember Bruno? 0.99
01:41:44.000 Yeah, fuck yeah. 0.99
01:41:45.000 Ollie G. Um, that was a fucking funny movie. 1.00
01:41:49.000 Ali G's the best. 0.98
01:41:51.000 But I heard his new movie, like people didn't dig it.
01:41:53.000 I saw it.
01:41:54.000 Did you like it?
01:41:54.000 It was pretty fun.
01:41:55.000 I mean, it was funny, yeah, yeah. 0.99
01:41:57.000 But the problem is, when you compare it to the shit he does, you can't compare a movie. 0.99
01:42:04.000 It's like, the other shit wasn't a movie. 1.00
01:42:05.000 This is like, it's just a real, it wasn't funny, it was dirty, you know. 0.99
01:42:08.000 But it's actual drama comedy, you know, it's like a comedy.
01:42:12.000 It's just like a comedy, yeah.
01:42:13.000 A film scripted.
01:42:13.000 It wasn't like...
01:42:16.000 Ground, you know, it wasn't like you're living it, you know?
01:42:19.000 Like Borat.
01:42:20.000 Yeah, I think I can see- Borat was so ridiculously funny. 1.00
01:42:22.000 Fuck, that movie was funny. 0.99
01:42:23.000 It's a problem, because it's so ridiculous, and he'd have a really hard time doing that again. 1.00
01:42:28.000 It's almost like to do that, he's got to not do it for years, and then people forget about it, and then go back in and do it again.
01:42:34.000 He did something at the Oscars this year.
01:42:36.000 He presented an award, and I guess he had to agree to not do any sort of thing.
01:42:41.000 He was just going to be himself, but he snuck in his character using his wife and did it anyway, and it was an okay funny bit.
01:42:48.000 It was funny if you've seen this clip.
01:42:50.000 Someone showed me this.
01:42:51.000 My brother actually showed it to me.
01:42:53.000 He got this Charlie Chaplin award.
01:42:57.000 Did you see that thing?
01:42:58.000 Charlie Chaplin Award?
01:42:59.000 A couple years ago, they gave him this award for, you know, there's like a Charlie Chaplin Award for like greatness in comedy or something. 0.93
01:43:10.000 And he did this bit, I don't want to give it away if you haven't seen it, but it was the funniest fucking thing I've seen. 0.88
01:43:16.000 You find that? 0.95
01:43:17.000 Yeah.
01:43:18.000 Can we watch it?
01:43:19.000 I don't know if we can play it or not.
01:43:20.000 Probably not.
01:43:21.000 It's got over 4 million views.
01:43:22.000 Yeah, we'll get pulled.
01:43:23.000 So go ahead and look it up.
01:43:24.000 It's on the BBC America.
01:43:24.000 Tell people what is the title of the video again.
01:43:26.000 It's Sacha Baron Cohen Kills Presenter and Accepts Award Extended.
01:43:31.000 I guess I just gave away the video.
01:43:32.000 Britannia Awards on BBC America.
01:43:35.000 Can I tell you what happened?
01:43:36.000 Or do I ruin it for them?
01:43:37.000 You'd probably ruin it for everybody.
01:43:39.000 But do what you want to do, man.
01:43:41.000 That's what you're into.
01:43:42.000 Check out the video.
01:43:43.000 It's really fun.
01:43:43.000 Okay, I'll definitely check it out.
01:43:45.000 It's a good time for crazy shit. 0.98
01:43:47.000 It's the perfect time for you to come out with this album. 1.00
01:43:50.000 What I say, every day is the new best day for this crazy shit. 1.00
01:43:54.000 Because every day people give less of a fuck. 1.00
01:43:58.000 The honest truth is, you know, I met the producer and I talked to Sturgill and I said, you know, I asked about the, you know, because he was the only guy I knew who knew Dave. 0.99
01:44:09.000 I go, And I go, is he cool? 0.99
01:44:13.000 He goes, he don't give a fuck. 1.00
01:44:17.000 Hired right there. 0.99
01:44:19.000 Nowadays, that's an ultimate compliment you can give me about anyone.
01:44:23.000 He meant it as a compliment, too.
01:44:25.000 Right, those are the people you want to hang out with.
01:44:27.000 All I care about is people who... 0.98
01:44:29.000 You know, I'm sure your audience knows, but there's people out there who think the phrase don't give a fuck is a negative, you know, like I don't care. 0.99
01:44:35.000 I care too much that I need someone who doesn't care about the other shit. 0.99
01:44:37.000 It's changing. 0.99
01:44:39.000 Yeah.
01:44:39.000 That phrase is changing.
01:44:40.000 Now it's a different thing now. 1.00
01:44:43.000 Like not giving a fuck was like you were an idiot or a loser. 1.00
01:44:46.000 Oh, he doesn't give a fuck. 1.00
01:44:47.000 He's a dummy. 1.00
01:44:47.000 But now it's like, I don't give a fuck! 1.00
01:44:49.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
01:44:50.000 Listen, I could get banned from Nashville, but I don't give a fuck because I'm making the record I want to make. 0.99
01:44:56.000 Well, it's just amazing that that's how it worked out, you know, that this thing's taken off because you just said, fuck it, let's just go all in. 0.99
01:45:02.000 And like I said, this is like the perfect time. 0.99
01:45:04.000 The perfect time to go all in.
01:45:07.000 I hate to bring it back to you, but I'm here, but...
01:45:10.000 You didn't do the podcast to get listeners.
01:45:13.000 You just want something you wanted to do.
01:45:14.000 Just did it for fun.
01:45:15.000 You did it for fun.
01:45:15.000 I did this record.
01:45:16.000 I was just like, I want to do it for fun.
01:45:18.000 That's when things are good, man.
01:45:19.000 When you actually enjoy them. 1.00
01:45:20.000 That shit is making me laugh. 0.99
01:45:23.000 It's actually the opposite, which is, I assume no one's going to ever hear this, so I'm just going to go fucking all out. 0.99
01:45:29.000 So actually, it's kind of not scary, but when it debuted, like I said, number nine on the Billboard country charts, outselling all the big boys, I'm like... 0.99
01:45:37.000 Holy fuck, what the fuck do I do now? 0.98
01:45:39.000 Because then you've got to double down and make it go even crazier. 1.00
01:45:42.000 It's hilarious.
01:45:43.000 Yeah, and then that's when... 0.98
01:45:44.000 Because then they're like, you know, you're real fucking... 0.97
01:45:47.000 Is it as you walk it like I... You talk it. 1.00
01:45:49.000 So I get on my Twitter and I fucking rip on Nashville, rip on the music business, rip on all these fuckers. 1.00
01:45:53.000 And that's how you're getting banned. 1.00
01:45:54.000 I'm getting banned by...
01:45:55.000 I don't know.
01:45:56.000 So these Florida Georgia line guys, they got mad at you?
01:45:58.000 They blocked you?
01:45:59.000 They blocked...
01:46:00.000 So there's a new guy.
01:46:01.000 I don't even remember his name.
01:46:02.000 He blocked me too.
01:46:03.000 I got blocked by...
01:46:07.000 Who's Megan?
01:46:07.000 Is Megan Trainor?
01:46:08.000 Is that her name?
01:46:09.000 Megan Trainor.
01:46:10.000 She's not country. 0.99
01:46:11.000 She's all about that base.
01:46:13.000 Oh, she blocked you? 1.00
01:46:15.000 You know those promoted tweets that are on your fucking thing? 1.00
01:46:18.000 Right. 1.00
01:46:19.000 I said, get this shit off my page, and then she got blocked. 1.00
01:46:22.000 That's not much to block me. 1.00
01:46:24.000 Promoted tweets are sneaky as fuck, aren't they? 0.99
01:46:26.000 I know, but it said promoted tweets, so I go, I've seen this fucking tweet 18 times today. 1.00
01:46:30.000 I get it. 1.00
01:46:31.000 She got a new fucking album. 1.00
01:46:33.000 I don't mind a promoted Instagram thing, because I feel like, ah, go ahead. 1.00
01:46:39.000 I'm getting it all for free.
01:46:41.000 You've got to get money out of this somehow.
01:46:43.000 No, no.
01:46:44.000 Listen.
01:46:45.000 I've done, I don't think I did a promoted tweet on Twitter, but I've done it on Facebook. 0.99
01:46:50.000 And like half the comments are like, get this shit. 0.98
01:46:52.000 It's the same thing as me, but I don't block them. 0.99
01:46:54.000 I gotta take a picture of you while you're here.
01:46:55.000 Speaking of Instagram, bam.
01:46:58.000 Legit.
01:46:59.000 Bam.
01:47:00.000 Bam.
01:47:00.000 Yeah, I gotta do it too.
01:47:01.000 Hold on, how do I do this shit? 1.00
01:47:03.000 Don't you know how to do it? 1.00
01:47:04.000 We gotta take a picture together.
01:47:06.000 We'll do all that, man.
01:47:07.000 I just wanted to get a picture of you in the moment.
01:47:09.000 That's my new thing.
01:47:10.000 Get someone in the middle of the podcast.
01:47:12.000 No posing before the podcast.
01:47:14.000 This conversation's going down.
01:47:16.000 Right, Jamie?
01:47:17.000 That's why we started doing the pictures for the podcast.
01:47:19.000 We used to have this pose, which I always felt was weird.
01:47:22.000 I was like, why don't we just have one in the middle of us talking and use that?
01:47:26.000 And that way you can see what a mess this place is, too.
01:47:29.000 There's chaos to my left here.
01:47:31.000 You got a picture? 1.00
01:47:33.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:47:36.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:47:39.000 That's a catchy goddamn song, man. 1.00
01:47:42.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:47:42.000 I think Fuck You Bitch is the catchiest song. 1.00
01:47:44.000 I disagree. 1.00
01:47:45.000 I'm telling you. 1.00
01:47:46.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass makes me sing all day long. 1.00
01:47:49.000 I sing that shit all the time. 1.00
01:47:51.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:47:54.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass. 1.00
01:47:56.000 Everyone's got different favorites. 1.00
01:47:58.000 Yes.
01:47:59.000 Different strokes for different folks.
01:48:00.000 It's funny, too, because you never, like...
01:48:03.000 When you make a record, it's like...
01:48:07.000 I thought about not putting that song on.
01:48:09.000 I was like, people have heard it on that other show before.
01:48:10.000 I was probably not going to put it on the record.
01:48:12.000 And that's one of the people...
01:48:13.000 You know, there was a couple songs that the ones that people liked the most were the ones I was like, I don't know if I want to record.
01:48:18.000 Probably happens in comedy, too.
01:48:19.000 Like, I don't know if this joke's...
01:48:20.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:48:21.000 It's kind of like a throwaway joke, and it ends up getting the biggest fucking laugh of the show. 0.89
01:48:25.000 You never know when you actually write something out. 0.91
01:48:27.000 That's what's funny.
01:48:28.000 You know, you write things out, and you go, eh, this part don't work that good. 0.98
01:48:31.000 And that part gets this huge fucking laugh. 0.97
01:48:33.000 And you're like, oh. 0.99
01:48:34.000 Like...
01:48:35.000 It's weird.
01:48:36.000 It's weird what people like.
01:48:37.000 You know, some songs, I mean, it's got to be there's some songs that you don't think are your best songs and people will pull you aside.
01:48:41.000 Like with Sturgill, it's a You Can Have the Crown song.
01:48:44.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:48:45.000 He fucking hates that song, man. 1.00
01:48:46.000 I'm telling you, dude, I listen to that song all the fucking time. 1.00
01:48:49.000 I love it too, yeah. 0.98
01:48:49.000 That song is one of my all-time favorite songs and he doesn't even like it. 0.98
01:48:53.000 It happens all the time.
01:48:54.000 Yeah, I mean, like, well, the title track, Redneck Shit, I try to talk, he finally talked me into recording, because it's my demo, you know, because it's weird, because it's your song.
01:49:01.000 Right.
01:49:01.000 So when someone's telling you that your song is, it's like a, and you're telling them it's not, it's like a weird argument.
01:49:07.000 You're arguing about yourself.
01:49:08.000 I go, let's try it.
01:49:09.000 And it was so good that I put the title track, first track on the record.
01:49:13.000 You know, like, he was right, you know?
01:49:16.000 Right.
01:49:16.000 That's why you need that second voice sometimes.
01:49:18.000 Well, Redneck Shit is a good one, too. 1.00
01:49:20.000 It's like a good introduction song to what you're doing. 0.90
01:49:22.000 And having it be the first song is smart.
01:49:24.000 Because if someone listens to that, then they'll get hooked. 1.00
01:49:26.000 And then by the time they get to eating pussy and kicking ass, they're already in. 1.00
01:49:31.000 Well, that's what I've noticed. 1.00
01:49:32.000 If you look on iTunes later, like... 0.96
01:49:35.000 Every fucking country record on iTunes, it's all five stars, because everyone who buys it on the ratings, they all buy it, they know what they're getting, they love it. 0.97
01:49:42.000 I'm the only one on there. 0.99
01:49:43.000 Like, literally, it's five stars, one star, five stars, one star.
01:49:47.000 And I promise, because it's like, this is not what country music is supposed to be.
01:49:50.000 You can't curse in country. 0.99
01:49:51.000 And I'm telling you right now, those one-star fuckers are selling my album way more than the five-star fuckers. 1.00
01:49:57.000 Of course! 1.00
01:49:58.000 What was it like from that private part?
01:50:01.000 I'm paraphrasing, but the five-star people are telling three friends, the one-star people are telling 20 friends.
01:50:07.000 And they're the ones getting the word out.
01:50:09.000 Because I don't know why they think it's so...
01:50:11.000 I love country music so much, and my heroes so much, that I hate to see what's happening to it. 1.00
01:50:20.000 And then those fuckers who listen to this dogshit fucking pop rap garbage are yelling at me that I'm disrespecting country music. 1.00
01:50:29.000 I go, this is fucking country music, you know. 1.00
01:50:31.000 If you don't like the word fuck, that's fine. 1.00
01:50:34.000 That has nothing to do with what I'm doing. 0.99
01:50:35.000 But if you think that it's not legit because I'm cursing, or talking about fucking... 1.00
01:50:40.000 Sucking dicks. 1.00
01:50:41.000 Yeah, or like, Family Tree's a song about my girl... 1.00
01:50:46.000 That I like her sister better, but then I... All you do is you just add to, you know, it's like, I'm dating this girl, but I want to fuck her sister. 1.00
01:50:52.000 But then, of course, I take it a step further. 0.99
01:50:54.000 You know what? 1.00
01:50:55.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:50:55.000 I'd rather fuck your uncle and your fucking dad. 1.00
01:50:58.000 Lick your fucking dad's balls. 1.00
01:50:59.000 You know, and then you go crazy, and it's like... 1.00
01:51:01.000 Jesus.
01:51:02.000 You don't really want to do that, but it's just funny to think about it.
01:51:04.000 Right. 0.98
01:51:05.000 Then you go toward the song, and of course, the players are like, what the fuck are you saying about me? 0.98
01:51:10.000 But it does make the point. 1.00
01:51:12.000 I mean, there's a song on here called Can't Fuck You Off My Mind. 0.99
01:51:16.000 It's just a can't drink you off my mind, they used to say, and now it's like, you've been through that. 1.00
01:51:23.000 Everyone's had a heartbreak. 0.99
01:51:25.000 But, you know, and you try to fuck some other girls to get over it, and all you're doing is thinking about the first girl. 1.00
01:51:29.000 Try to fuck a bunch of girls, and it never works. 1.00
01:51:33.000 No, it works. 1.00
01:51:34.000 You gotta fuck the right girls. 1.00
01:51:36.000 Well, I fucked the wrong ones, but... 1.00
01:51:37.000 If you fuck the right ones, you don't even care about the other one. 0.99
01:51:39.000 Well, but don't you think that's something people can relate to, at the very least? 0.99
01:51:43.000 Definitely.
01:51:43.000 So, they can't sing about that.
01:51:45.000 Another thing, too, is one...
01:51:46.000 Mainstream press, especially, except for a few places, pretty much, like, there's no reviews of it, really, anywhere.
01:51:51.000 But one guy wrote a review I thought was pretty interesting.
01:51:53.000 He actually used that...
01:51:55.000 Florida Georgia Line as an example.
01:51:58.000 I wish I could remember who it was.
01:52:00.000 It might have been a blog called Saving Country Music.
01:52:03.000 I think that's what it was.
01:52:04.000 And they used an example of a Florida Georgia Line lyric that was like, talking about sticking my pink in your straw.
01:52:11.000 It was like... 1.00
01:52:13.000 He was saying in an article about how these mainstream guys who talk this dirty shit but sugarcoat it and little girls are hearing it. 1.00
01:52:21.000 What are they saying? 1.00
01:52:22.000 You stick your pink in my mouth? 1.00
01:52:23.000 I don't know the actual. 0.94
01:52:24.000 Really?
01:52:25.000 But it was kind of gross.
01:52:26.000 But they do that to have it censored.
01:52:28.000 To have it be played on the radio so they can make money.
01:52:31.000 What I'm doing is much better because I'm saying this is for adults.
01:52:34.000 Right.
01:52:35.000 The CD and the online has the sticker on it.
01:52:38.000 Adults on parental advisory.
01:52:40.000 Right.
01:52:41.000 Don't yell at them.
01:52:42.000 They're the ones trying to give it to kids. 0.96
01:52:44.000 This is for adults. 1.00
01:52:44.000 I'm saying that since the fucking beginning. 1.00
01:52:47.000 Don't worry about the criticism, man. 0.99
01:52:48.000 I'm just happy you're doing it.
01:52:49.000 He was saying it in a positive way, by the way.
01:52:51.000 I like the belt buckle, too, by the way.
01:52:53.000 You should sell those. 0.97
01:52:54.000 Yeah, well, I think I fucking lost it. 0.99
01:52:56.000 People would buy those. 0.98
01:52:57.000 You should have that Wheeler Walker belt buckle made up.
01:52:59.000 You know what's cool?
01:53:00.000 Let me talk about that shirt, too.
01:53:01.000 Is that just a single W, right?
01:53:03.000 Well, yeah, they didn't...
01:53:04.000 I like it.
01:53:04.000 I want to make a W.W. Junior.
01:53:07.000 Well, you need a big R or something.
01:53:10.000 Yeah, I need an R. That shirt was made for me in California by the Nudie's... 0.97
01:53:20.000 You remember Nudie's?
01:53:22.000 Those old nudie suits that they used to wear in the 60s.
01:53:24.000 You guys remember that?
01:53:25.000 Nudies?
01:53:25.000 It sounds...
01:53:26.000 There's this guy, I think he was...
01:53:28.000 I think it's Ralph Nudie.
01:53:30.000 He used to...
01:53:30.000 He made the suits that you would see in the old Western movies.
01:53:33.000 How do you spell it?
01:53:34.000 N-U-D-I-E, like Nudie magazine?
01:53:37.000 Yeah, and he would make these Nudie suits at Buck Owens and people like that.
01:53:41.000 Well, what happened was they used to be in the old westerns, these crazy suits.
01:53:46.000 And people like Elvis or Johnny Cash used to watch those westerns.
01:53:50.000 They started calling this guy...
01:53:51.000 Roy Orbison.
01:53:52.000 Yeah.
01:53:53.000 Who's that guy?
01:53:53.000 His name is...
01:53:55.000 Is it Ralph Nudie?
01:53:56.000 Yeah.
01:53:56.000 Ralph Nudy.
01:53:57.000 So these people like Elvis or Johnny Cash, Hank Williams even, they're like, I want a suit like they wore in, you know, whatever, Western movie.
01:54:06.000 And then he started making clothes for musicians.
01:54:09.000 Dolly Parton's there. 0.97
01:54:10.000 Who's that dude right there?
01:54:11.000 Barry Klein?
01:54:13.000 Who's Barry Klein?
01:54:14.000 Is that Patsy Cline's dad?
01:54:16.000 I don't know.
01:54:17.000 There's Grant Parsons.
01:54:18.000 He's got a nice Cadillac there.
01:54:20.000 Anyway, but I guess his granddaughter, somebody kept it going, and they reopened in L.A. for a little while.
01:54:27.000 I think they're back out of business.
01:54:28.000 I'm not sure, but that's an actual Nudie shirt.
01:54:31.000 Wow.
01:54:32.000 Made for me. 1.00
01:54:33.000 I had to get a fucking tailor and everything. 1.00
01:54:35.000 That's pretty goddamn classic. 1.00
01:54:36.000 It costs more than a fucking record. 1.00
01:54:37.000 That's amazing. 1.00
01:54:38.000 Oh, yeah, there it is. 1.00
01:54:39.000 I love shit like that. 1.00
01:54:40.000 Nudie's Rodeo Tailors. 1.00
01:54:42.000 Hollywood, California.
01:54:42.000 I put the credit inside, too, yeah.
01:54:44.000 So, are they still around?
01:54:46.000 Well, I think they're bringing it back, yeah.
01:54:48.000 Oh, they have t-shirts.
01:54:49.000 They're going red Ed Hardy on you. 0.70
01:54:50.000 They're going to have glitter. 1.00
01:54:51.000 It's going to be glitter on those fucking t-shirts. 0.99
01:54:53.000 But anyway, I called the tailor and they made me that. 0.99
01:54:55.000 I just wanted that label on the back.
01:54:57.000 That's so cool.
01:54:59.000 I love things like that.
01:55:00.000 I think they got a museum.
01:55:02.000 Yeah, it was cool.
01:55:03.000 Because I just looked it up.
01:55:04.000 What I did was, that's what's great about the internet.
01:55:06.000 Because I looked it up.
01:55:07.000 I was like, it's the kind of shirt I want for my record code.
01:55:10.000 And then I said, oh, I want a nudie shirt.
01:55:12.000 And I look it up.
01:55:12.000 All of a sudden, I see their website.
01:55:13.000 And I look at it.
01:55:15.000 And you can get one made by, you know...
01:55:18.000 It's just there.
01:55:20.000 I don't want one like it.
01:55:21.000 I just want it.
01:55:22.000 No, that's cool.
01:55:23.000 It's interesting. 1.00
01:55:25.000 He used to soup up Elvis' cars and shit. 0.99
01:55:28.000 Really? 1.00
01:55:29.000 Yeah, the nudies did a bunch of car shit. 0.99
01:55:31.000 Elvis had a souped up car? 0.99
01:55:33.000 Yeah, but what they did to those suits, they would do it to cars, like horns coming out of it and glitter and all that.
01:55:39.000 That's hilarious.
01:55:40.000 Look at this thing.
01:55:41.000 That's that famous Elvis suit.
01:55:43.000 He made Elvis a gold, shiny suit.
01:55:46.000 Yeah.
01:55:47.000 What is the one with the car though?
01:55:48.000 Go back to that car.
01:55:49.000 That's hilarious.
01:55:50.000 Elvis had a giant white Cadillac.
01:55:55.000 If it's not Elvis, who's it saying?
01:55:56.000 That's a nudie car, yeah.
01:55:57.000 It might be his.
01:55:58.000 Was it his car?
01:55:59.000 I don't know.
01:56:00.000 Maybe it was...
01:56:00.000 So he designed, like...
01:56:02.000 I think you can go, there's a museum around here somewhere you can go check it out.
01:56:04.000 I wonder if that was his?
01:56:05.000 But that, that's, why is there a rifle?
01:56:08.000 Look at, there's a rifle back there.
01:56:09.000 You're allowed to put a...
01:56:11.000 What?
01:56:11.000 There's a rifle going to the car.
01:56:13.000 He's got two rifles on the sides, but one of them that's in, like, a firing position to shoot at people behind you.
01:56:18.000 Well, when I make... 0.99
01:56:20.000 What the fuck is that, man? 0.99
01:56:21.000 Listen. 0.99
01:56:22.000 If you're fans...
01:56:23.000 I'll make a promise right here. 0.99
01:56:25.000 If I get to number one, I'm wearing a nudie suit non-stop for a fucking week. 0.99
01:56:29.000 A week? 0.99
01:56:30.000 A whole week?
01:56:30.000 Actually, I take it back a year.
01:56:31.000 A year?
01:56:32.000 A year I like.
01:56:33.000 I like a year.
01:56:34.000 Number one?
01:56:34.000 I'll tour.
01:56:35.000 I'll tour with a... 0.99
01:56:37.000 Because those nudie suits cost fucking five grand. 0.99
01:56:40.000 I feel like people are just finding out about you. 0.99
01:56:42.000 I feel like this ride has just started for you.
01:56:45.000 Well, that's what happened, like I was saying.
01:56:47.000 When it debuted so high, I went home and I was like, that's crazy that it debuted so high.
01:56:50.000 Then you get hungry. 1.00
01:56:51.000 You go home and you're like, Fuck them even worse up their ass. 1.00
01:56:54.000 I'm gonna go, I'm gonna tour, I'm gonna do the video, I'm gonna go for it now. 1.00
01:56:58.000 Well, people, there's, I think a lot of people don't even know about you yet.
01:57:00.000 I really do.
01:57:01.000 You know, and hopefully with this podcast and with some other podcasts and all the YouTube videos and...
01:57:05.000 Between that, yeah, you helping out and, you know, I appreciate it again coming on the show. 0.93
01:57:09.000 I had a fucking blast, man. 0.94
01:57:10.000 Come on, man. 1.00
01:57:11.000 It's fun shit. 1.00
01:57:11.000 I love it. 1.00
01:57:12.000 And I love that you're a fan, you know. 0.98
01:57:14.000 I love that there's places like this where I can fucking talk about it. 0.96
01:57:17.000 I love that there is, too. 0.97
01:57:18.000 I don't even know how it happened.
01:57:20.000 I wish I could say that I planned this whole thing out. 0.97
01:57:22.000 This is all total dumb luck.
01:57:24.000 Anyone who happens upon my record, if they find me, I just...
01:57:30.000 I mean, you've got one of the biggest podcasts in the world, but even if... 0.97
01:57:35.000 I've done interviews with people just like, I like the record, will you be on my fucking... 0.98
01:57:40.000 We've got like 30 fucking... 0.98
01:57:41.000 I'll do it. 1.00
01:57:42.000 If they're that big a fan, I don't give a shit. 0.99
01:57:43.000 Oh, that's cool of you. 0.99
01:57:44.000 Yeah.
01:57:45.000 Yeah, well, that's going to change, though, once you run out of time.
01:57:47.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00
01:57:47.000 Fuck those fuckers. 1.00
01:57:49.000 You're going to get too many people. 1.00
01:57:50.000 It's going to be Joe Rogan only soon, but...
01:57:52.000 There's a lot of other cool ones.
01:57:53.000 You've got to do like Burt Kreischer and do as many people as you can around town. 0.95
01:57:58.000 Yeah, while I'm here and not playing Coachella, I may as well do the whole fucking round. 0.98
01:58:01.000 It's hilarious that Coachella thought you were too risque. 1.00
01:58:03.000 Yeah.
01:58:04.000 I would love to see you up there. 1.00
01:58:05.000 You can pussy. 1.00
01:58:06.000 You know, I think it is... 1.00
01:58:06.000 You know, I think part of it is... 1.00
01:58:08.000 It's like in the kind of...
01:58:09.000 I think it's because it's country, and it's just so weird to hear it. 0.95
01:58:12.000 And also when it's not as loud, so all the bad words are so fucking clear. 0.77
01:58:17.000 You can hear it so well. 0.99
01:58:19.000 Like, when you sing clit, you can really hear it. 1.00
01:58:21.000 I just would love to see all those fucking hipsters that are just going to the cool thing. 1.00
01:58:26.000 Like, people are like, we're here for the cool thing, now we're going to Coachella. 0.99
01:58:29.000 It's going to be amazing. 0.99
01:58:30.000 That's the whole fucking... 1.00
01:58:31.000 Sucking bitch. 1.00
01:58:32.000 It's funny you brought that up. 1.00
01:58:35.000 No, but seriously, I'm glad you brought that up, because part of the point of this record, too, was to piss off everybody.
01:58:40.000 I wanted, you know, my redneck friends back home, I wanted them to get pissed off by this.
01:58:45.000 I wanted the hipsters to get pissed off by, you know, like, there's something to piss off everybody.
01:58:49.000 Right. 0.96
01:58:50.000 So the goal was, again, talking about thinking no one's gonna hear it, the goal was to fucking make sure nobody bought it. 0.95
01:58:55.000 Right.
01:58:56.000 I did everything in my power to make sure no one would listen to it, and I think that's the key, you know, because there's something to piss off everyone on here.
01:59:05.000 It's a hilarious idea.
01:59:07.000 The whole idea behind it is hilarious. 0.96
01:59:09.000 But I think people get that you can't make music like this that sounds like that if it's not coming from a real fucking place, you know? 0.96
01:59:18.000 I think, yeah. 0.96
01:59:19.000 And I think this kind of stuff, I mean, it's going to sound grand and ridiculous, but I think this ushers in the future.
01:59:25.000 Because it's proving...
01:59:28.000 People like a lot of stuff that you're not going to get it from these mainstream purveyors.
01:59:33.000 You're just not going to get it from.
01:59:34.000 They're not going to risk it.
01:59:36.000 They're not going to put the money out for something like this.
01:59:37.000 Because they can't sell it to their radio stations.
01:59:39.000 They can't do what they normally do.
01:59:41.000 They don't have a place for it.
01:59:42.000 They don't know what it is.
01:59:43.000 So then you come along, you do it on your own. 0.99
01:59:45.000 It takes off like a fucking wildfire. 0.99
01:59:47.000 And now they're scrambling. 0.99
01:59:49.000 You must be getting a lot of mainstream music producer guys and executives that are coming to you trying to get in on this.
01:59:55.000 Oh, totally.
01:59:56.000 And you know what? 1.00
01:59:57.000 You always got to remember, like we were talking about, don't give a fuck. 1.00
02:00:01.000 You got to keep that attitude or you're going to fall down the fucking... 1.00
02:00:04.000 They're going to drag you into the fucking devil's nest. 1.00
02:00:07.000 Then it's going to be like... 1.00
02:00:08.000 And listen, I like money.
02:00:09.000 We all like money.
02:00:10.000 But they're going to go, hey...
02:00:12.000 If you tone down a little bit on the next one, we can get you on whatever, you know, we can get you on MTV or CMT or whatever it is.
02:00:18.000 And then I'll go, and they're like, you know, that'll be ten times the money.
02:00:21.000 And then, you know, I'll think about it, don't get me wrong, but I just got to stick with...
02:00:26.000 Listen, if I... See, I think they're wrong, though.
02:00:28.000 It might be ten times the money right now, but I think in the future...
02:00:32.000 But also...
02:00:32.000 Dude, this is going to be giant, man.
02:00:34.000 I don't give a fucking shit if it doesn't sell ten times. 0.99
02:00:37.000 Well, that's good. 1.00
02:00:38.000 Because...
02:00:38.000 If I'm not doing it the way I want it, then I'll be miserable.
02:00:41.000 But because you are doing it the way you want it, it's fucking hilarious.
02:00:44.000 So like, what kind of people, you don't have to name names, what kind of people have come up to you and have tried to get in on this?
02:00:49.000 What kind of music executive type characters?
02:00:53.000 I'll say, and I'm talking about country stars and country music executives, I won't name names, the biggest of the biggest.
02:01:01.000 I'm not gonna name names, but I'm talking about the biggest stars in country have contacted me Well, a couple different things.
02:01:10.000 I've heard through the grapevine, because I don't travel in those circles. 0.99
02:01:13.000 But some people who really love it, some people have reached out to friends of mine who know me, making sure that I don't shit on them, because I talk shit about everybody. 0.98
02:01:24.000 And they're like, couldn't you tell them I'm cool? 0.99
02:01:26.000 So he doesn't shit on me. 0.78
02:01:28.000 And a couple people, some of the big boys, and some of these I wouldn't even mind naming, but they don't want... 0.68
02:01:35.000 It's funny, too, because I have some fans who are literally the biggest country stars on planet Earth who won't Until it becomes okay to say it, they're not saying it right now.
02:01:45.000 They said it to my face.
02:01:46.000 I've literally met them and they said it to my face. 1.00
02:01:48.000 But they won't say it anywhere because they don't want to lose their fucking fans. 0.96
02:01:54.000 Like once it becomes, if it becomes mainstream, which I hope it doesn't, but if it does, maybe it'll be cool, you know? 0.98
02:01:59.000 What's mainstream though? 0.98
02:02:00.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.98
02:02:01.000 I mean, there's no mainstream anymore. 0.99
02:02:02.000 Mainstream used to be radio and television. 0.97
02:02:04.000 Nobody gives a fuck about The Tonight Show anymore. 0.90
02:02:07.000 Like being on The Tonight Show? 0.89
02:02:09.000 For a band?
02:02:09.000 Does that mean anything anymore?
02:02:11.000 They were talking to me about that, you know, because one thing you do is play late-night shows, and they're like, they ain't gonna have you. 0.98
02:02:15.000 I was like, I don't give a fuck. 0.97
02:02:16.000 But do they mean anything anymore? 0.99
02:02:17.000 No.
02:02:18.000 It used to be if you did, like, The Tonight Show.
02:02:21.000 But then once, it changed in, like, the 90s.
02:02:24.000 Like, it started going away in, like, the 90s and the 2000s.
02:02:27.000 They were telling me that the numbers that I, even, they're like, you can't do, obviously, those big talk shows. 0.89
02:02:31.000 But they're saying, you don't fucking, those numbers don't, it's not gonna move the needle. 0.96
02:02:34.000 It's better than nothing. 0.99
02:02:36.000 Your podcast is gonna move the needle a lot more than any fucking talk show. 0.99
02:02:38.000 I guarantee you that. 0.99
02:02:39.000 That's bizarre.
02:02:40.000 You know what?
02:02:41.000 I hope I'm right.
02:02:42.000 I think you're right.
02:02:43.000 But I'm almost positive.
02:02:44.000 I've heard it about books and other people's CDs.
02:02:47.000 I'm positive.
02:02:47.000 I'm positive I'm right.
02:02:49.000 And I know Stern's played it a couple times. 1.00
02:02:51.000 That shit's so much bigger than doing a fucking Tonight Show or whatever those shows are. 0.99
02:02:57.000 Which, listen, if I'm in town and they want me to play, I'll do it, but they can't have me on, so it doesn't matter. 0.99
02:03:02.000 Well, yeah, they can't have you on, and one of the problems with those shows is, like, say, you know, no offense to any of these guys, but say if Conan has someone on a show that's a band, I don't know how much input Conan has.
02:03:12.000 Or, like, maybe The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.
02:03:14.000 How much input does he have on what the guests are?
02:03:17.000 I don't know.
02:03:17.000 Letterman, I was told, was the one who really liked real country.
02:03:21.000 He was...
02:03:22.000 That was always the place where Isbell played there.
02:03:26.000 And Jason Isbell also is on an independent label.
02:03:29.000 It's hard for him to get on, but with Letterman giving the approval, he can get on.
02:03:34.000 So some of those guys have some power.
02:03:36.000 Jay Leno was talking to me about this, that he hated when he was doing this night show. 0.98
02:03:40.000 And he'd have to have some guy on from some TV show that he didn't give a fuck about. 0.98
02:03:43.000 And he had to pretend that he cared. 0.99
02:03:45.000 You'd think he'd be in a position to fucking... 0.99
02:03:47.000 Wasn't. 0.99
02:03:48.000 He was doing the most mainstream of mainstream shows.
02:03:51.000 But that's why.
02:03:51.000 It's because it was so mainstream.
02:03:53.000 He had to be right down the middle, non-offensive.
02:03:55.000 But now he's doing his own show.
02:03:57.000 He's doing that Jay Leno's Garage.
02:03:59.000 Have you ever seen that?
02:03:59.000 No.
02:04:00.000 Dude, you get to see what Jay Leno's like. 0.99
02:04:01.000 Jay Leno's a fucking great guy. 0.96
02:04:03.000 Isn't that weird that he was on my TV for 20 years and I don't know what he's like? 0.98
02:04:05.000 He's a great guy.
02:04:06.000 He was in here.
02:04:07.000 He did a podcast with us. 0.97
02:04:08.000 He was fucking hilarious. 0.93
02:04:09.000 I didn't hear him. 0.99
02:04:09.000 He was talking about doing a show for the mob. 0.99
02:04:12.000 And he was talking about this mob.
02:04:14.000 Oh, I heard about it.
02:04:15.000 Jay Leno screamed. 1.00
02:04:16.000 You fucking... 1.00
02:04:18.000 It's bizarre, like, seeing him scream, you fucking cocksucker, like, whoa! 1.00
02:04:22.000 I remember hearing stories, you know, because I obviously have so many friends and musicians, like, who, they'll be playing a show, and they're like, oh, somebody canceled on the, this was years ago, canceled on The Tonight Show. 1.00
02:04:32.000 If you can get out to L.A. to play The Tonight Show, you can do the show in whatever.
02:04:36.000 And they crunch the numbers, and it costs, you see, it's not, you know, moving a band is so expensive.
02:04:42.000 Right.
02:04:43.000 And they crunch the numbers, and it's like, It wasn't worth their money to play. 0.97
02:04:46.000 Like, how fucking crazy is that? 0.99
02:04:48.000 That's crazy. 0.99
02:04:48.000 When we become a band, a small band, and it's not worth the money to play The Tonight Show. 0.99
02:04:53.000 You won't get enough return on your money as far as iTunes sales.
02:04:56.000 They were saying that it was $40,000 to play because you're paying the musicians, the crew, the trucks, everything.
02:05:01.000 And driving all the way out there, it's like, you're not going to make $40,000 in record sales.
02:05:05.000 That's so weird.
02:05:07.000 In the old days, like you were saying, one play on that and you're playing arenas.
02:05:10.000 Yeah, I was talking to Paul Stanley about that when he was in here.
02:05:13.000 It was real weird talking to him because Paul Stanley, of course, was a huge superstar in the 70s, and it was all record sales.
02:05:19.000 And as a matter of fact, they couldn't get on the radio.
02:05:21.000 You know, Kiss had a really hard time being on the radio.
02:05:24.000 They were sort of kind of blackballed on the outside.
02:05:26.000 Oh, yeah.
02:05:26.000 But just because of the love from their fans, they stayed valid.
02:05:31.000 Of course. 1.00
02:05:31.000 And they sell them fucking lunchboxes and dolls. 1.00
02:05:34.000 But it was weird, man. 0.99
02:05:35.000 I mean, when I was a kid, like a Kiss song on the radio, like it was a moment to be excited.
02:05:39.000 Oh my God, they're playing Kiss.
02:05:41.000 I think the only one they ever played was Beth, which was weird because that was the drummer.
02:05:45.000 That was a big one.
02:05:46.000 But they played Detroit Rock City occasionally.
02:05:48.000 Or I Want to Rock and Roll All Night.
02:05:50.000 That they played, yeah.
02:05:51.000 They played that in Kentucky.
02:05:52.000 Detroit Rock City, I'd heard on the radio before, and I remember being blown away like, whoa.
02:05:56.000 But they're definitely not taken seriously, yeah. 0.97
02:05:58.000 No, they weren't taken seriously, but they're a fucking great rock and roll band. 0.97
02:06:01.000 By the way, isn't that the best fucking idea? 0.99
02:06:03.000 You become the biggest rock band ever, and then you put the makeup on. 0.99
02:06:06.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:06:06.000 Go out and do whatever the fuck you want. 0.99
02:06:07.000 Nobody knew who they were. 0.98
02:06:08.000 Yeah.
02:06:09.000 I met Ace Freely when I was like...
02:06:11.000 Probably like, I was less than 10, somewhere in that area.
02:06:15.000 My uncle used to work for Howard Marks Advertising, which used to make all the album covers in New York City.
02:06:21.000 Oh, no way.
02:06:22.000 Yeah, and my uncle Vinny was an artist, and so he would, him and this guy Dennis that he worked with, would do these album covers for Kiss.
02:06:29.000 What album covers do you mean?
02:06:30.000 Like Destroyer.
02:06:31.000 Oh, that's a killer cover, man.
02:06:32.000 Oh, dude, like some of the all-time great ones.
02:06:34.000 They did Kiss Double Platinum. 0.99
02:06:36.000 So I would get advanced copies of this shit when I was a little kid. 0.99
02:06:40.000 Yeah. 0.99
02:06:41.000 I can't even imagine what getting an advanced copy of a record was.
02:06:44.000 Oh my god, it was insane.
02:06:45.000 I don't think I would have known what an advanced copy was.
02:06:47.000 You probably had to explain it.
02:06:48.000 Yeah, that one. 1.00
02:06:48.000 Look at that fucking cover. 1.00
02:06:49.000 My uncle was involved with that, and he was involved with a couple other ones, man. 0.99
02:06:53.000 Is that the name?
02:06:54.000 There's a name there.
02:06:55.000 I don't know who the guy who did the painting was.
02:06:57.000 I think they hired someone to do the painting.
02:06:59.000 But what the advertising agency would do was design the inside of it, graphic design, put all the photos in place, and decide how the font would look and all that stuff.
02:07:09.000 It was really cool.
02:07:10.000 So when I was a kid, he would send me these posters.
02:07:13.000 My mom just had them recently.
02:07:15.000 When they had their solo albums, they all had an individual album.
02:07:20.000 I had the actual posters from their solo album.
02:07:23.000 I think each record was dedicated to the other three, right?
02:07:27.000 Well, was it?
02:07:29.000 I think on the back it was like, you know, it's like dedicated to Paul and Gene and, you know. 0.99
02:07:35.000 They had some creepy ass fucking songs. 0.99
02:07:37.000 Gene Simmons and Christine 16. But no, then it came back around and became, you know. 1.00
02:07:43.000 You gotta watch that shit now. 1.00
02:07:44.000 You gotta watch that shit now. 1.00
02:07:45.000 You couldn't have a song about a 16-year-old that you have to fuck? 1.00
02:07:47.000 Listen. 1.00
02:07:48.000 I've got to have you.
02:07:50.000 You know what?
02:07:51.000 I got an idea for an album, too.
02:07:53.000 What is it?
02:07:54.000 I'm not gonna do that.
02:07:55.000 Don't say it.
02:07:55.000 Hold on, dude.
02:07:56.000 Just take a breath.
02:07:58.000 I know what you were gonna say.
02:07:59.000 You taught me out of it.
02:08:00.000 No, no, no, no.
02:08:01.000 There was a couple of good songs, though, from the solo albums.
02:08:03.000 Back in the New York Groove.
02:08:04.000 That was a good Ace Frehley song.
02:08:05.000 Oh, that was from his solo record?
02:08:06.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:08:07.000 Back in the New York Groove was an unheralded song.
02:08:10.000 I thought Ace's solo record was the best of the solo ones.
02:08:12.000 Really?
02:08:12.000 Yeah.
02:08:13.000 I don't remember them that well, but I remember liking that one the best.
02:08:16.000 I'd have to go back and listen to them again.
02:08:18.000 Remember they did a little disco for a while, like I Was Made For Loving You?
02:08:22.000 They went disco for a while.
02:08:23.000 You know what?
02:08:23.000 People make fun of it.
02:08:23.000 I mean, looking back, it's kind of good.
02:08:26.000 That's a great song.
02:08:27.000 I love that song.
02:08:28.000 Ooh, yeah. 1.00
02:08:31.000 All that disco shit that was so shitty, you listen to now, it sounds... 0.99
02:08:34.000 Everything, and looking back, it was like, now the music's gotten so shitty, I mean, BG sound fucking like the best band you ever heard. 0.99
02:08:43.000 Well, that's what's interesting, is I think they were unjustly criticized. 0.52
02:08:47.000 Like, if you listen to their style of music...
02:08:50.000 They had some really good songs.
02:08:53.000 The Bee Gees had some interesting songs.
02:08:55.000 I could name you...
02:08:56.000 I mean, I'm not gonna do it, but there's...
02:08:57.000 I can name you 20 killer Bee Gees songs.
02:08:59.000 And that's another thing, too, you know.
02:09:01.000 It's important.
02:09:02.000 It sounds like you're with me.
02:09:04.000 Yeah, man.
02:09:04.000 You gotta listen to all kinds of music.
02:09:06.000 I love all kinds of music. 0.96
02:09:07.000 The people that make the shitty country that we were pointing out before... 0.97
02:09:10.000 All they listen to is pop country. 1.00
02:09:11.000 That's all they listen to.
02:09:12.000 People...
02:09:13.000 I was reading an interview with Prince once, and he was...
02:09:16.000 I don't remember exactly what he said, but he was talking about how much he loved James Brown.
02:09:22.000 Later in the interview, he talks about Joni Mitchell, how much he loved Joni Mitchell.
02:09:25.000 That's how you become Prince.
02:09:26.000 Right.
02:09:26.000 When you love James Brown and Joni Mitchell.
02:09:28.000 Yeah.
02:09:29.000 Because it's two completely different things, and then it comes out through Prince as some...
02:09:32.000 But if he only listened to James Brown, it'd just sound like a James Brown ripoff.
02:09:36.000 It's the other... 1.00
02:09:37.000 The folk music and the weird shit they listened to that made him such a fucking weird guy. 0.99
02:09:41.000 Yeah, man, I think music is a lot like everything else. 0.99
02:09:44.000 Like, I like variety in all kinds of different foods.
02:09:46.000 I like variety in art and architecture.
02:09:50.000 And I like variety in music.
02:09:51.000 It's interesting to hear, like, More Than A Woman. 0.99
02:09:54.000 That is a good fucking song. 1.00
02:09:56.000 That BG song. 1.00
02:09:57.000 That's a good goddamn... 1.00
02:09:58.000 And when you saw it in that movie, Saturday Night Fever, like, it's a great fucking song. 1.00
02:10:02.000 Try not dancing to stay alive. 0.99
02:10:03.000 That's right.
02:10:04.000 That's what I'm talking about.
02:10:05.000 You know? 1.00
02:10:05.000 That's a good fucking song. 1.00
02:10:07.000 It's a great song. 0.99
02:10:08.000 That era, people were looking at that like, okay, we have this instead of Led Zeppelin.
02:10:12.000 This is what replaced The Doors. 0.99
02:10:13.000 Like, what the fuck is this? 0.98
02:10:14.000 And then you get older, you realize you can listen to both. 0.99
02:10:16.000 It's kind of what happened to, like I was talking about before with me and all my, he's like, when you got into rock, it's like, wait a second.
02:10:23.000 Waylon and John Lennon aren't that fucking far apart.
02:10:27.000 They're much closer together than what's playing on the radio right now. 0.89
02:10:31.000 Yeah.
02:10:34.000 Waylon used to play with Buddy Holly.
02:10:35.000 That's how he got his start. 1.00
02:10:36.000 No shit. 0.99
02:10:37.000 Yeah, he started, I mean, it's the most famous story of all, but he was supposed to be on that plane. 0.99
02:10:42.000 Dwight Yoakam was probably the first guy that was a real country guy that I was a fan of.
02:10:47.000 I was a fan of Dwight.
02:10:47.000 He kind of crossed over a little bit.
02:10:49.000 Yeah, you know what happened?
02:10:50.000 He's a Kentucky boy as well.
02:10:51.000 A lot of great music from Kentucky, huh?
02:10:53.000 Yeah.
02:10:53.000 But he, I always thought of him as a Kentucky guy, and he is, but he actually had to move to LA to make it.
02:10:59.000 He was in the punk scene out here.
02:11:02.000 Because back then, dressing like that, wearing the cowboy hat, and playing kind of old-style Buck Owens country was thought of as crazy as it...
02:11:12.000 I mean, he wasn't playing...
02:11:14.000 You know, punk music, but he was kind of an outsider.
02:11:19.000 That was thought of as a weird thing to be doing.
02:11:22.000 It seemed to me that what he was doing was like an ode to the classics.
02:11:26.000 You know, it's like he was a...
02:11:28.000 I thought he also put his own spin on it, too.
02:11:30.000 100%.
02:11:30.000 100%.
02:11:31.000 But it reminisced of really great country music of old.
02:11:35.000 He was obviously a huge fan of that music.
02:11:39.000 I feel like he was one of the first guys who...
02:11:43.000 Brought that old sound back, but kind of got some, you know, got airplay.
02:11:50.000 He got a lot of airplay.
02:11:51.000 Went mainstream with going back to the old guys.
02:11:54.000 Yeah, like that Ain't That Lonely Yet song.
02:11:56.000 Yeah, that got play.
02:11:57.000 And guitars, Cadillacs, and hillbilly music.
02:12:00.000 That was a huge hit.
02:12:01.000 Well, I guess that was the inspiration to track, too.
02:12:03.000 Beer, weed, coochies, and honky-tonk music.
02:12:05.000 But he was like a guy that you were allowed to like.
02:12:07.000 It's like you were allowed to like him as a country person.
02:12:09.000 It made you like a diverse... 0.99
02:12:11.000 Well, even then, you know, the 90s, like, you were talking about shit changing so fast. 0.98
02:12:14.000 Even the fucking, like, you look back at mainstream country in the 90s, it sounds like fucking raw field recordings compared to what we got out there right now. 0.99
02:12:22.000 Like, it's changed so much so fast that, like, actually, like, this is the kind of what mainstream Alan Jackson, Randy Travis, that shit sounds like fucking... 1.00
02:12:31.000 Like, down in the dirt. 0.99
02:12:32.000 Like, it sounds like blue, like a...
02:12:34.000 Gritty. 0.99
02:12:35.000 Yeah, it sounds like fucking Jugbang. 0.98
02:12:37.000 What has happened? 0.99
02:12:38.000 Like, could you imagine if Johnny Cash could watch those guys, like, throwing their fucking hands, those hip-hop hand signs, the perfectly coiffed outfits on, and buying jeans with rips already in them? 0.98
02:12:48.000 People always send me these memes. 0.99
02:12:50.000 Did you put that rip in?
02:12:51.000 No, this is ripped.
02:12:53.000 That's real?
02:12:54.000 I swear, I wasn't going to wear it.
02:12:57.000 No, I paid $100 for that. 1.00
02:13:00.000 People send me memes all the time of that shit. 1.00
02:13:02.000 That's what it's called. 1.00
02:13:04.000 They'll tell a picture of Waylon.
02:13:07.000 I don't know what it's called.
02:13:09.000 I've gotten a hundred of these.
02:13:11.000 I think I pissed there once.
02:13:15.000 And I've gotten that meme.
02:13:16.000 I've gotten a hundred of them.
02:13:18.000 See, you can find that.
02:13:18.000 But there's a hundred of those guys, like, you know, rolling in there.
02:13:22.000 People love making those.
02:13:23.000 Because there's an audience for that still, which is great.
02:13:26.000 Well, Shooter talked about, he had that song, They Should Outlaw You, that was specifically about that.
02:13:31.000 Like, these fake country guys.
02:13:33.000 Like, these especially fake outlaw guys.
02:13:35.000 About what his dad had to go through to make it in country. 1.00
02:13:39.000 Oh, fuck yeah. 0.99
02:13:39.000 His dad was a real pioneer and a rebel in a lot of ways. 0.99
02:13:44.000 He did whatever the fuck he wanted to do, and it worked. 0.95
02:13:47.000 And that sound became super popular. 1.00
02:13:51.000 You listen to Waylon Records now, the best shit, it sounds like it was recorded yesterday. 0.99
02:13:55.000 It's amazing. 1.00
02:13:56.000 It hasn't aged a fucking day. 0.98
02:13:58.000 And his son, and Shooter's weird too, man, because he does all kinds of strange music. 0.98
02:14:03.000 His new album is...
02:14:05.000 Countach. 0.99
02:14:05.000 It's like almost electronic and it's fucking killer. 0.99
02:14:07.000 It's killer. 1.00
02:14:08.000 Well, he's another guy that just, wherever his fucking hair blows back. 1.00
02:14:11.000 One of my favorite guys is this guy, Billy Joe Shaver. 0.99
02:14:13.000 He's old now.
02:14:14.000 He wrote a lot of...
02:14:16.000 There's a Waylon album called Honky Tonk Heroes that Billy Joe Shaver wrote every song on.
02:14:20.000 It's my favorite Waylon record.
02:14:21.000 And Billy Joe's still around. 0.98
02:14:22.000 He just put out a new album last year and it's fucking great. 0.98
02:14:26.000 And... 0.98
02:14:27.000 The first song is a duet with Willie Nelson, and it's called Hard To Be An Outlaw.
02:14:32.000 And the song is Hard To Be An Outlaw When You Ain't Want It Anymore.
02:14:35.000 Wow.
02:14:35.000 So it's him, who was actually part of the outlaw movement, which I'm not part of that.
02:14:39.000 I'm just here doing what I do.
02:14:42.000 What is the outlaw movement?
02:14:44.000 That was the 70s, when they were the equivalent of, you know, I don't know.
02:14:48.000 But you're kind of comedy.
02:14:51.000 To me, it's not even that funny.
02:14:54.000 I'm just singing like I see it. 0.99
02:14:56.000 I fight and fucking fart. 0.99
02:14:58.000 But it's funny. 0.99
02:15:01.000 It's obviously funny.
02:15:02.000 Obviously, I'm laughing.
02:15:03.000 People are laughing at it.
02:15:05.000 I don't get mad when people laugh.
02:15:06.000 But it is very outlawed in a lot of ways by the method you're going about putting it out.
02:15:13.000 I can see how you don't want to claim it, because it's like an iconic name, like outlaw country, like those guys.
02:15:18.000 But those guys were...
02:15:19.000 That was when pop...
02:15:20.000 Well, that was when country music, which, by the way, that country on the radio then sounds, like I said, sounds great now, but it was a lot of strings and got really lush.
02:15:27.000 And then people like... 0.99
02:15:29.000 Willie moved out of Nashville, moved to Austin, started smoking weed and said, I'm going to do it my fucking way. 0.99
02:15:34.000 And that kind of thing. 1.00
02:15:37.000 And Waylon's like, you know, get the fucking strings out, get all this shit out. 0.99
02:15:40.000 I just want to play me, guitar, bass, drum, you know, just back to the basics. 0.99
02:15:45.000 So they were really pushing that envelope way more than anything I've ever done.
02:15:48.000 Does Nashville have any...
02:15:50.000 I mean, how much of Nashville is like real music and how much of Nashville is like pop now?
02:15:55.000 Like when you're there.
02:15:56.000 It's really...
02:15:57.000 It's so funny because...
02:15:59.000 Like I said, most of my family is from Nashville, so I went there all the time growing up.
02:16:03.000 And it was really almost not a ghost town, but it was just like a...
02:16:05.000 It had a small town feel, but you would see Crystal Gale or whoever it was on the streets. 0.96
02:16:11.000 It was the center of country music, but it was not a flashy town.
02:16:19.000 And now it's another Hollywood.
02:16:21.000 It's where people go.
02:16:22.000 It changed.
02:16:23.000 But it's real recent, right?
02:16:24.000 It's within the last...
02:16:25.000 I went...
02:16:27.000 There's a...
02:16:29.000 The Silver Lake, which is apparently the hip place here, the Silver Lake in Nashville is East Nashville.
02:16:36.000 I don't think I'd ever been there as a kid.
02:16:38.000 I don't think it was just slums.
02:16:41.000 And now you can't get a place there. 0.97
02:16:43.000 It's still fucking expensive. 0.94
02:16:44.000 So it's got gentrified. 0.98
02:16:45.000 Totally.
02:16:46.000 How many years ago did this happen? 0.99
02:16:48.000 If you bought a house there five years ago, you're fucking swimming in it right now. 0.97
02:16:52.000 Yeah, because I started going to Zaney's in Nashville as a comedy club. 0.98
02:16:56.000 I started going there, I just want to say, like maybe 10 years ago I started going there.
02:17:00.000 And I bet it was way different 10 years ago.
02:17:02.000 Way different.
02:17:03.000 Yeah.
02:17:03.000 Way different.
02:17:04.000 I mean, these places now, like...
02:17:06.000 They have those spotlights that stream the sky, and they'll have, like, some fucking grand opening thing or some press release thing, and you'll see, like, these tour bosses and paparazzis, and, like, what is going on?
02:17:16.000 Well, that's the thing, too, is when I was a kid, you know, I had family who was friends with the country.
02:17:21.000 Not because they were in the business, just if you're in town, that's what a lot of people do. 0.85
02:17:25.000 There were never no fucking paparazzi.
02:17:27.000 I know people there, you know, when you got to, like... 0.96
02:17:32.000 Warn people where you're going, do this.
02:17:34.000 That's why I'm hoping people like Jason or Sturge will start moving there for the right kind of music.
02:17:41.000 There's got to be some that are doing that, right?
02:17:43.000 There are some, but...
02:17:45.000 I mean... 0.98
02:17:45.000 How many of them are these fucking quaffed-up bands with the hair gel? 0.98
02:17:49.000 Almost all. 0.99
02:17:50.000 I mean, like...
02:17:51.000 Wallet chains.
02:17:52.000 Yeah, I mean, but you hear it.
02:17:53.000 How many Sturgils come into your podcast, you know?
02:17:56.000 Well, Sturgils is a rare dude.
02:17:57.000 He's a rare...
02:17:58.000 As a shooter, they're rare guys, but...
02:18:00.000 But we're really naming...
02:18:01.000 Listen, there's way more of it than you think.
02:18:03.000 But those Jason Isbells and Sturgils and... 0.87
02:18:06.000 Don't, like, a guy like that...
02:18:08.000 When Sturgill puts out a CD, and then people find out about it, and people aspire, and then they want to be like that, and then it sort of gives birth to more people like that, or more people who can express themselves that way.
02:18:19.000 It's almost like Nirvana. 0.99
02:18:21.000 Remember when they came out, it's like, oh, fuck. 1.00
02:18:23.000 Fuck the old shit. 1.00
02:18:25.000 It's time for real rock and roll to come back. 1.00
02:18:26.000 They killed Poison.
02:18:28.000 Yeah, exactly.
02:18:28.000 But...
02:18:29.000 All that it ended up doing was bringing out a bunch of shitty Nirvana copycats. 0.96
02:18:33.000 There was a lot of that. 0.94
02:18:34.000 There was a lot of that.
02:18:35.000 And there's going to be a lot of Sturgill copycats coming out soon, and they're going to be doing it because they think it's going to sell, not because Sturgill did it, because he had something on his mind that he wanted to sing.
02:18:44.000 It's going to come out the wrong way.
02:18:46.000 Well, there's always going to be the guy that pretends to be the guy that you love.
02:18:51.000 Yeah.
02:18:51.000 And those are the ones who sell the records.
02:18:54.000 Sometimes.
02:18:55.000 Or host the TV shows, or do movies, or whatever.
02:18:59.000 Those are the guys that go, hmm, this guy's sort of inauthentic.
02:19:03.000 Something's going on.
02:19:04.000 But when someone is authentic, though, you can tell, right?
02:19:07.000 Can't you tell? 0.99
02:19:08.000 Sturgill, you can fucking tell. 0.99
02:19:09.000 Listen to that new A Sailor's Guide to Earth. 0.99
02:19:11.000 Come on, man.
02:19:12.000 That's the best record of the year by far. 0.99
02:19:13.000 It's fucking sensational. 0.97
02:19:14.000 And I'm saying that with mine right in front of me. 0.99
02:19:15.000 It's sensational.
02:19:16.000 It's so good.
02:19:19.000 It's weird how it all flows together, too.
02:19:21.000 It's like, oof.
02:19:23.000 That's a magnum opus.
02:19:25.000 Is that it?
02:19:25.000 Magnus?
02:19:25.000 No one would go into a studio and make a record like that, thinking that's going to sell.
02:19:31.000 He did it because he wanted to make it.
02:19:32.000 And he's got to have...
02:19:35.000 It's very rare that you're going to have a big company that sells records that has the wherewithal to let a guy like that go.
02:19:42.000 Just go do whatever you want, man.
02:19:44.000 I think he did it all.
02:19:45.000 I think he produced it himself and did everything.
02:19:46.000 I think he did it all himself.
02:19:47.000 Do you know Honey Honey?
02:19:48.000 He did it all himself.
02:19:49.000 Yeah, you know what's funny?
02:19:50.000 My first ever L.A. gig, the guy that produced my record, the band that came in right after I left was Honey Honey.
02:20:01.000 And they heard my record in the studio and they're like, next time you're in LA, why don't you open a show?
02:20:05.000 And I'm like...
02:20:06.000 Yeah, sure.
02:20:07.000 So I played a few songs with them acoustics, and they came out in costume and backed me up for a couple songs, because they had the record, but it wasn't out yet.
02:20:14.000 Right.
02:20:15.000 So that was my first L.A. show ever.
02:20:17.000 Wow.
02:20:18.000 That's crazy.
02:20:20.000 That's right.
02:20:21.000 You're...
02:20:21.000 Yeah, real good friends with them.
02:20:22.000 We've done a bunch of shows together.
02:20:24.000 Oh, no way.
02:20:24.000 Yeah, no.
02:20:25.000 It's funny. 0.99
02:20:25.000 That was my first fucking L.A. show with Honey Honey. 0.99
02:20:27.000 Yeah, they did New Year's with me last year. 0.99
02:20:30.000 Oh, no way.
02:20:30.000 Yeah, we did New Year's at the Wiltern in L.A. How big is that?
02:20:33.000 It was...
02:20:35.000 No, no, no.
02:20:35.000 That's big, though.
02:20:36.000 A couple thousand people.
02:20:37.000 That's crazy.
02:20:37.000 Yeah, it was Joey Diaz.
02:20:39.000 Yeah, Honey Honey's last album was fucking great. 0.96
02:20:41.000 Ari and Duncan. 0.95
02:20:42.000 Yeah, it was awesome.
02:20:43.000 They were amazing.
02:20:44.000 They're really good, man.
02:20:45.000 And what is this?
02:20:47.000 That's them.
02:20:48.000 That's them backing me up.
02:20:49.000 Honey Honey engaging.
02:20:52.000 They have...
02:20:55.000 She has a beard on.
02:20:56.000 Yeah, I think that was a sign of things to come when people want to dress up in costume when they're on station.
02:21:03.000 They don't want to be seen.
02:21:04.000 I think I should have seen that as a possible sign that maybe I was doing was a little bit out there.
02:21:08.000 Well, what I was going to say about them was they have this song, and I used part of the song...
02:21:14.000 On the music for it with my Comedy Central special, the opening music.
02:21:18.000 That's all from them.
02:21:19.000 That's all their music.
02:21:20.000 And it's this song called Punk Kid.
02:21:22.000 And they can't put it out because they made it.
02:21:26.000 They spent all their own money making it.
02:21:27.000 But the record company wanted it.
02:21:29.000 And so, like, when the record company hired them to do a song, or do an album, they wanted the Punk Kid song, and they wanted it for free.
02:21:36.000 And they're like, no, but we spent all this money on that song.
02:21:38.000 This is our song.
02:21:39.000 We wrote it.
02:21:39.000 You can't own this.
02:21:40.000 Like, you can't own the song.
02:21:42.000 But they can't.
02:21:42.000 When they tried to, and they said no.
02:21:44.000 So that song is, like, out in the ether.
02:21:46.000 So they have to figure out what to do with that song.
02:21:48.000 They've got to hold onto it for a while.
02:21:49.000 I will say, I did learn, you know, being around the music business much ahead, I knew...
02:21:54.000 I'd heard all those stories.
02:21:55.000 That's crazy.
02:21:56.000 That's why I bought my, why I own my masters. 0.99
02:21:58.000 Like, you can't do fucking, you can't touch this. 0.99
02:22:00.000 They don't, you don't need them anymore. 0.99
02:22:01.000 If I'm quoting Hammer.
02:22:02.000 Well, you don't need them anymore.
02:22:03.000 I don't.
02:22:04.000 Like, what we're talking about, about distribution.
02:22:05.000 You'll get more distribution from doing this show, or more people will hear about it from doing this show.
02:22:09.000 Oh, we're gonna find out.
02:22:09.000 Let's see.
02:22:09.000 Guarantee you.
02:22:10.000 It's going to be crazy.
02:22:12.000 And from doing mine and do Adam Carolla's and do everybody else's...
02:22:15.000 Yeah, someone said Carolla played it the other day, maybe.
02:22:19.000 Dude, all these guys will do it.
02:22:20.000 You can get on Joey Diaz.
02:22:22.000 Joey will have you on.
02:22:23.000 Ari will have you on.
02:22:24.000 Duncan.
02:22:24.000 Anybody who's around will have you on.
02:22:26.000 And people will hear about it.
02:22:27.000 This is the new...
02:22:28.000 It's a new time, man.
02:22:30.000 It's a new world.
02:22:31.000 They're not trying to...
02:22:33.000 I'm just happy that I'm here now, because like you said, 20 years ago, this album would not exist.
02:22:38.000 It would not exist.
02:22:39.000 But it exists.
02:22:40.000 Wheeler Walker. 1.00
02:22:41.000 Redneck shit. 1.00
02:22:42.000 Go get it. 1.00
02:22:43.000 Someone said it was the first album to chart on the country billboard charts with a bad word.
02:22:49.000 Really?
02:22:50.000 No country charts.
02:22:51.000 No country albums ever charted with a bad word in the title. 1.00
02:22:54.000 Redneck shit. 1.00
02:22:54.000 Eatin' pussy, kickin' ass. 1.00
02:22:57.000 That's one of my favorite songs, dude. 1.00
02:22:59.000 I'm not gonna lie.
02:23:01.000 That puts a smile on my face.
02:23:03.000 I'll be listening to this at the gym.
02:23:05.000 By the way, there's a download code in that, too.
02:23:07.000 Oh, there is?
02:23:08.000 Oh, okay, so you buy the vinyl, you get a download code?
02:23:11.000 Dude, I want to pay.
02:23:12.000 I want to buy it on iTunes.
02:23:13.000 I insist.
02:23:15.000 He's going to buy it, too. 0.99
02:23:16.000 Yeah, he's going to fucking buy it. 0.99
02:23:17.000 It's nine bucks. 1.00
02:23:18.000 Make him buy it.
02:23:19.000 How much does it cost?
02:23:20.000 Nine bucks?
02:23:20.000 That's what normal album costs, right, on iTunes?
02:23:23.000 Nine bucks?
02:23:24.000 That's good.
02:23:24.000 Whatever the normal item.
02:23:26.000 Sturgill had the number one song and the number one album last week.
02:23:29.000 Yeah, I think his album's...
02:23:31.000 Boom.
02:23:31.000 Yeah.
02:23:31.000 Number one.
02:23:33.000 Keep in mind, too, he spent half his time fucking taking motherfuckers out. 1.00
02:23:36.000 I don't know if that's true. 0.99
02:23:38.000 I really don't think he's an assassin.
02:23:40.000 I think you should go to a doctor.
02:23:42.000 I'm telling you, you look just like Ben Hoffman, too.
02:23:44.000 It's so weird.
02:23:45.000 Well, like I said, someone said I look like Zach Galifianakis. 1.00
02:23:48.000 That person's an asshole. 1.00
02:23:50.000 That doesn't make any sense at all. 1.00
02:23:52.000 You're both handsome, but that's ridiculous. 0.96
02:23:54.000 It's just a beard thing. 0.98
02:23:55.000 I guess.
02:23:56.000 Well, I would say someone said you look like Zach Galifianakis.
02:23:59.000 You have different color hair.
02:24:00.000 I think people just saw a beard. 1.00
02:24:01.000 People are stupid, right? 1.00
02:24:02.000 People see me doing this shit and they're just like, he can't be real. 1.00
02:24:06.000 So they're like, he's gotta be somebody. 0.99
02:24:08.000 Oh, that's it.
02:24:08.000 And then also that video of you with the fake mustache doesn't help.
02:24:10.000 That hurt thing, yeah.
02:24:11.000 It doesn't help.
02:24:12.000 Well, whatever. 1.00
02:24:13.000 Fuck him. 1.00
02:24:13.000 Listen. 1.00
02:24:14.000 Fuck him if they can't take a joke, right? 1.00
02:24:16.000 WheelerWalkerJr.com, you fucks. 1.00
02:24:18.000 And go to iTunes. 0.99
02:24:20.000 Go pick this up.
02:24:21.000 Thank you, sir.
02:24:22.000 That was awesome.
02:24:22.000 Thank you for having me.
02:24:23.000 That was a blast, man.
02:24:23.000 It was a good time, man.
02:24:24.000 It was a lot of fun.
02:24:25.000 I hope you had fun, because I did. 1.00
02:24:26.000 Eating pussy and kicking ass, folks. 1.00
02:24:28.000 We'll see you tomorrow. 1.00
02:24:29.000 Mwah! 0.98
02:24:33.000 How was it, dude?
02:24:34.000 That was great.