The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #831 - Byron Bowers

00:00:02.000 Byron Bowers, ladies and gentlemen.

00:00:04.000 Hey, what's going on?

00:00:05.000 What's up, brother?

00:00:06.000 Good to see you, man.

00:00:06.000 Thank you for having me.

00:00:07.000 My pleasure.

00:00:08.000 What's the latest and the greatest with Byron?

00:00:10.000 You've been traveling all over the place, man.

00:00:12.000 Check your Instagram out.

00:00:14.000 Man, I just got back from the Dominican Republic a few days ago.

00:00:23.000 It was a very interesting experience.

00:00:24.000 Yeah?

00:00:25.000 Yeah.

00:00:26.000 Anytime you go somewhere tropical, you're like, man, this place is beautiful.

00:00:29.000 And by that third day, you'd be like, man, this is horrible.

00:00:34.000 The politics, the way they treat people.

00:00:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:36.000 So you see the balance of, you know, everything.

00:00:40.000 Especially as, you know, being from where I'm from and being black and what's going on. 0.98

00:00:44.000 I'm always in exotic places when cops are killing black people. 0.98

00:00:49.000 So, it pulls you out of the situation and lets you see how, you know, fucked up things are for, like, Haitian people. 1.00

00:00:56.000 Well, yeah, I mean, pretty much every third world country deals with all kinds of fucked up shit. 1.00

00:01:02.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:03.000 Like, way worse than we have it here.

00:01:05.000 It puts things into perspective.

00:01:06.000 Like, I often think, like...

00:01:08.000 If the United States wasn't established just a few hundred years ago, if that didn't happen, what would the world be like?

00:01:16.000 Would most of the world be like a lot of these countries that you visit where you deal with insane police corruption?

00:01:25.000 I've had friends that have been pulled over in Mexico, and the cops basically just straight up tell you, like, do you want to get out of this? 0.99

00:01:34.000 Give me some fucking money. 0.99

00:01:36.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:01:37.000 I think I had a situation like that coming through TSA, but I didn't realize until they let me go.

00:01:43.000 But they held me for a long time.

00:01:45.000 Where?

00:01:46.000 In Dominican Republic, because I had on a button-up shirt that's denim, like the one I'm wearing now.

00:01:52.000 And they was like, take your jacket off.

00:01:54.000 And I'm pre-checked.

00:01:55.000 So when you become pre-checked, it's like a white privilege.

00:01:58.000 And I'm like, I'm not taking off my shirt.

00:02:00.000 This is not a jacket.

00:02:01.000 This is a shirt.

00:02:02.000 So in the Dominican Republic are you doing this?

00:02:04.000 Yeah.

00:02:04.000 I got on glasses and stuff, and they was like, oh, okay.

00:02:08.000 Oh, it's a shirt, huh?

00:02:10.000 Come through.

00:02:10.000 And as soon as I came through, they was like, this your bag?

00:02:13.000 And they started trying to take my cologne.

00:02:15.000 Like, yeah, that's flammable.

00:02:16.000 You can't take that on a plane.

00:02:18.000 Or my umbrella.

00:02:19.000 Yeah, you can't take umbrellas on a plane.

00:02:21.000 That's a weapon.

00:02:21.000 Sorry.

00:02:22.000 And they just held me there.

00:02:24.000 And we just made eye contact with each other.

00:02:26.000 I'm like, show me on the chart.

00:02:27.000 That's all I kept saying.

00:02:29.000 And then after a while, they was like, you know what?

00:02:31.000 You can take it.

00:02:33.000 So after a while, they just gave up?

00:02:35.000 Yeah, they gave up, because I was like, okay, if I check the bag, can I take everything?

00:02:38.000 And they was like, yeah.

00:02:39.000 So what I did, I unloaded all my bags and started rearranging things so I could put it, so I could check it, and you can make it back to America.

00:02:48.000 But once they saw me doing that, and they saw how neat I was, and every time they touched something, I had to put it back a certain way.

00:02:55.000 They was like, this is just going to be a waste of time for even us.

00:02:58.000 Yeah, but don't they have rules like we have rules as far as how many ounces of liquid and stuff like that you can take on a plane?

00:03:04.000 They do, but it made it over there.

00:03:07.000 So that's why I was trying to get them to explain to me, like, why exactly? 0.91

00:03:12.000 Yeah, but it probably made it over there because the people that work at TSA over here are fucking barely paying attention. 0.69

00:03:17.000 Well, you know, I take it everywhere. 0.88

00:03:19.000 I take it everywhere.

00:03:20.000 How big is your cologne? 0.99

00:03:22.000 First of all, cologne's stinky, man. 0.99

00:03:24.000 I love it. 1.00

00:03:24.000 Where are you wearing that shit for? 1.00

00:03:26.000 I know you disagree with cologne, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:03:28.000 I disagree.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, you disagree.

00:03:31.000 It's a political point.

00:03:31.000 I disagree with cologne.

00:03:33.000 You're more alpha though, you know what I mean? 0.83

00:03:35.000 You could choke them out with your muscles and I could choke them with the smell. 0.96

00:03:38.000 Um, okay.

00:03:41.000 I'm not exactly sure where to go with that.

00:03:43.000 But, so, how big is the cologne?

00:03:45.000 Probably like three point something ounces.

00:03:48.000 Okay, see, I think you could bring on like four ounces of liquid.

00:03:51.000 Yeah.

00:03:52.000 Isn't that how it works?

00:03:53.000 Yep, usually.

00:03:53.000 In a toiletry bag?

00:03:54.000 Yeah, it was in a toiletry bag.

00:03:56.000 Now, mind you, I went from Montreal, too.

00:03:59.000 So I went from New York to Montreal, here to the Dominican Republic.

00:04:03.000 So this same luggage has been like everywhere.

00:04:06.000 Mm.

00:04:07.000 So what were you doing down in the Dominican Republic?

00:04:09.000 I met up with some friends of mine from college, some African homeboys, and I really hopped in on their trip because they visit the DR a lot, and I wanted to see what it was like.

00:04:19.000 And I snorkeled a lot.

00:04:21.000 I came back sore.

00:04:23.000 But yeah, I did a lot of time in the water.

00:04:27.000 Morning, evening, and like late afternoon.

00:04:29.000 Well, it's beautiful for that.

00:04:31.000 Yeah.

00:04:31.000 That's one of the cool things about those tropical climates.

00:04:33.000 The oceans down there are amazing.

00:04:36.000 The oceans are amazing.

00:04:37.000 Some of the reefs wasn't as, you know, not like when I was in Jamaica or when, like in Hawaii, where everything just comes alive and it looks like a city.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 Definitely, you do feel like you landed on another planet, to me, and I'm flying, like I'm cruising over the terrain.

00:04:58.000 You mean when you're swimming?

00:05:00.000 When I swim, yeah.

00:05:01.000 Anytime I snorkel, it's that otherworld experience to me.

00:05:05.000 Yeah, man, I'm a big fan of the water, but the sharks fuck it up for me.

00:05:11.000 I'm just not into getting eaten.

00:05:13.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing why sometimes I keep looking around, like, especially if it's not a lot of things in the water.

00:05:20.000 But I saw squid.

00:05:22.000 That was the most beautiful thing I saw from this trip was just, like, 40 baby squid all lined up in a row that looked like they'd just been born, you know?

00:05:33.000 And they were just there.

00:05:34.000 And I didn't even know they were squid.

00:05:36.000 I thought it was like fish with interesting fans.

00:05:39.000 Because it looked like, you know, like a lady just doing her dress like that. 0.95

00:05:43.000 And when I got close, I realized that I was at the tentacle park.

00:05:47.000 And I just locked eyes with them.

00:05:49.000 And I was like, oh, this is the most beautiful thing.

00:05:51.000 You know Duncan Trussell?

00:05:52.000 Yeah.

00:05:52.000 Duncan has this new virtual reality thing.

00:05:55.000 It's called the HTV Vive.

00:05:59.000 And you put it on, and you actually feel like you're underwater.

00:06:06.000 They have this program, I think it's called Deep Blue or something like this, something blue.

00:06:11.000 But you put it on, and one of the reality programs that you put on is an ocean one.

00:06:17.000 And you're standing at the bottom of this, like...

00:06:20.000 Ocean area and these fish swim by and It's it's not a hundred percent realistic because the graphics aren't totally there yet.

00:06:29.000 Yeah, but it's like 85 percent realistic That's amazing a whale pulls up to you and you get to look at the whale like you look in its eyes But like I don't know if you ever used any kind of virtual reality I'm pretty new to it, too.

00:06:41.000 Yeah, but You get a full 360 degrees.

00:06:44.000 Like, you can look down, you can look up, you can look everywhere.

00:06:47.000 So this whale, as it's in front of you, you can choose different spots on the whale that you look at.

00:06:52.000 You can look at its eyes, you can look at its tail. 0.98

00:06:54.000 It's fucking fascinating. 0.73

00:06:56.000 And it lets you know that, you know, within a hundred years from now, probably not even, probably like 20, 20 years from now. 0.97

00:07:03.000 Oh, this is it?

00:07:04.000 Is this the program?

00:07:06.000 No.

00:07:06.000 So this is it right here.

00:07:08.000 So you stand there and you're looking around like that dude's just looking around with these goggles on.

00:07:13.000 And this is what you're seeing.

00:07:13.000 Yeah.

00:07:15.000 I mean, you're seeing it feels like the actual ocean.

00:07:20.000 Yeah, that's basically what it looks and feels like.

00:07:26.000 That's beautiful right there.

00:07:28.000 It's crazy that that's...

00:07:29.000 What is it like?

00:07:31.000 79% of the earth or something like that?

00:07:34.000 Yeah, we looked it up the other day.

00:07:35.000 It was over 70% of the earth is water and 95% of that is ocean water.

00:07:42.000 That's amazing.

00:07:43.000 It's almost like how they say our bodies are made up of the same.

00:07:47.000 Not quite.

00:07:48.000 I think a body is like 60%.

00:07:49.000 They used to say it was like 90% water.

00:07:52.000 Find out what that is.

00:07:53.000 I think the human body is actually like 60% water.

00:07:57.000 Something like that?

00:07:59.000 Maybe.

00:08:00.000 But I've experienced virtual reality, the one where you can just travel everywhere around the world.

00:08:05.000 65. Average human bodies between 50 and 65% water, averaging around 57 to 60%.

00:08:12.000 Average percentage of water in infants is much higher, typically around 75 to 78% water.

00:08:18.000 Huh.

00:08:19.000 That makes sense.

00:08:20.000 Dropping to 65 by one year of age.

00:08:22.000 A little water balloons.

00:08:24.000 That's probably why the skin gets crazy, like the older we get, the water is dropping in it.

00:08:30.000 The water's dropping in it?

00:08:31.000 Yeah.

00:08:32.000 Like they said, the percentage goes down the older you get.

00:08:35.000 Oh, man, you're probably just drinking too much.

00:08:37.000 Or get wrinkles and stuff like that?

00:08:39.000 Yeah, that's actually collagen.

00:08:41.000 That's the wrinkle thing, is the elasticity of your skin gives out.

00:08:45.000 Your body stops producing collagen correctly.

00:08:48.000 But you can mitigate some of that with, like, moisture, and, you know, like, some people use creams and shit like that, but at the end of the day, time wins.

00:08:56.000 Time wins. 0.61

00:08:56.000 I definitely use creams. 0.61

00:08:58.000 I use creams.

00:09:00.000 Do you?

00:09:00.000 Creams and cologne?

00:09:02.000 Yeah, I use lotion.

00:09:03.000 All things that stink.

00:09:05.000 All things.

00:09:06.000 Well, I can't use dyes and perfumes in my lotions.

00:09:09.000 How come?

00:09:10.000 It dries my skin and I make it break out.

00:09:13.000 Perfumes and lotions?

00:09:15.000 But you can wear cologne.

00:09:16.000 Yeah, I wear cologne.

00:09:17.000 Cologne lasts a certain amount of hours.

00:09:19.000 And it lands on your skin, so, you know...

00:09:21.000 Look at you, you're being a cologne commercial.

00:09:23.000 Yeah, it lands on your skin so delicately.

00:09:26.000 Have you always worn cologne?

00:09:28.000 No, but once I got into it, my mom, like I was raised by my mom, like our sense of smell is just so strong, you know, so it was always fragrance around.

00:09:37.000 And to me, that's the first, like, that can alter your mindset or your mode, like when you smell something good.

00:09:46.000 Yeah.

00:09:47.000 It's an anchor.

00:09:48.000 It can cause a mental trigger.

00:09:50.000 It brings you back to that place.

00:09:52.000 Certain smells, like the smell of apple pie.

00:09:55.000 If your mom cooked apple pie or something like that, you could smell it and it'll immediately transport you back to that good place.

00:10:01.000 Yeah.

00:10:02.000 Or bad place.

00:10:03.000 Or bad place.

00:10:04.000 Like, yeah.

00:10:05.000 Like, I like, like, sexy smells.

00:10:06.000 So, I like to be reminded of something that's pleasant.

00:10:11.000 Like, a woman walks by.

00:10:11.000 Sexy smells?

00:10:12.000 Yeah.

00:10:13.000 You know, so.

00:10:14.000 I don't wear, like, hardcore masculine smells.

00:10:16.000 I like to smell like a rose.

00:10:18.000 You like to smell like a rose?

00:10:19.000 I like to smell like something fresh, like that.

00:10:21.000 You know?

00:10:22.000 I'm learning a lot about you, Byron.

00:10:24.000 Like, yeah.

00:10:24.000 It takes me two hours to pick out my fragrance.

00:10:27.000 What?

00:10:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:10:28.000 Hold on.

00:10:29.000 It takes you two hours to pick out your fragrance?

00:10:32.000 Is this in a day?

00:10:34.000 Or like when you go to a fragrance store?

00:10:36.000 When I went to the fragrance store, Store.

00:10:39.000 So you're that dude just wandering around there touching this one?

00:10:42.000 Yeah, smelling it.

00:10:44.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:44.000 And if I don't get like a small like erection, like a little erection. 0.99

00:10:48.000 A little erection. 0.84

00:10:49.000 Yeah, like if it don't turn me on in a sense, then I just, it's not the one. 0.97

00:10:53.000 Huh.

00:10:53.000 But you know it.

00:10:54.000 Just like, you know, like when you feel the energy of a lady or, you know, whatever you attracted to or the sound of a motor when it goes by, you know what I mean?

00:11:03.000 Well, I'm with you on that.

00:11:04.000 Yeah.

00:11:05.000 Yeah, they've said that with engines, it actually, like when you hear an engine revving, it actually raises men's testosterone.

00:11:13.000 But why?

00:11:14.000 I wonder why.

00:11:15.000 It's like, I don't know.

00:11:17.000 Has anybody ever driven a car with pipes, which is rare in California, to have custom pipes?

00:11:24.000 You think it's rare?

00:11:26.000 Yeah, to be, like, as far as, like, loud and... 1.00

00:11:29.000 Those fucking things are everywhere. 0.99

00:11:30.000 Really? 1.00

00:11:31.000 Yeah, they crack down on them here.

00:11:32.000 It's not like in Georgia.

00:11:33.000 Like, I'm from Georgia, where you can get a Honda and put an open exhaust, have a quarter inch, and take the stuff off, you know? 1.00

00:11:41.000 Yeah, see, that's stupid. 0.99

00:11:43.000 If you got a Honda. 1.00

00:11:44.000 You shouldn't do that if you have a four-cylinder.

00:11:44.000 Yeah.

00:11:46.000 That's awful.

00:11:47.000 I did that before, but my friend had a Cobra Mustang 68. And you can hear that car coming down the street.

00:11:54.000 But when you hear it in a real car with a real motor, it's almost like a tiger growling or something.

00:12:00.000 Or it's just an energy you want to release when you press the gas.

00:12:02.000 Yeah.

00:12:03.000 You know?

00:12:04.000 So that, it makes you, it just does something to you.

00:12:08.000 What's little explosions?

00:12:09.000 I mean, it's control explosions, essentially.

00:12:11.000 I mean, that's what an engine is, right?

00:12:13.000 It's just this steel explosion container.

00:12:16.000 Yeah.

00:12:17.000 And all these pistons are in there, and they're all firing.

00:12:20.000 I don't know.

00:12:20.000 As much as I know about cars, I really should know more about, like, how engines work.

00:12:27.000 Like, I really don't know that much.

00:12:29.000 I kind of know there's some, ah, you gotta have camshafts, and you gotta have some cylinders, and there's spark plugs, and ignite some shit, and there's some fire explosions going off.

00:12:39.000 I don't really know.

00:12:40.000 No, you know more about me when it comes to cars.

00:12:43.000 I know the simple.

00:12:44.000 Like, fuel, air, and spark gets it going.

00:12:46.000 That's it.

00:12:47.000 Yeah.

00:12:48.000 The simplicity of it.

00:12:49.000 But you're into cars, too.

00:12:50.000 You and I have many car conversations.

00:12:53.000 I definitely like them, but I can't get into wheel displacements and like offsets and the correct suspension and the steering.

00:13:00.000 You don't know about all that stuff?

00:13:01.000 No.

00:13:02.000 I just know what I like, like body shapes and what it feels like.

00:13:02.000 No?

00:13:06.000 But don't you enjoy like what it feels like when you drive them?

00:13:09.000 You have a nice car.

00:13:11.000 When you drive that thing, it has a certain feel to the way when you turn corners and stuff like that.

00:13:18.000 There's a certain responsiveness to it.

00:13:20.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:13:20.000 I definitely know that, but I can't dial it in.

00:13:23.000 I can't put that in a computer and be like, I need my suspension adjusted.

00:13:28.000 Should I go with this coilover set or this coilover set?

00:13:32.000 Well, that's the beautiful thing about the internet.

00:13:34.000 You have a BMW, so you can go to a BMW For them, and then you can say, you know, what is the deal with this year 3 Series?

00:13:43.000 Like, what's the best suspension setup, you know, for handling?

00:13:47.000 Some people like comfort, some people like handling.

00:13:51.000 That's the real trade-off.

00:13:53.000 It's because if you really want the car to sit flat around corners, It has to have a little more stiffness to it.

00:13:59.000 You have to feel everything a little bit more.

00:14:01.000 And I feel that, and I like that.

00:14:02.000 Like, I had a 944, an 83, which to me ain't the best, but it was the best car of my own.

00:14:08.000 Those Porsches are sweet, man.

00:14:09.000 Yeah.

00:14:09.000 Those are underrated cars.

00:14:11.000 To be able to feel a car, to feel the road through this, like you're on a boat, is amazing.

00:14:15.000 A lot of cars don't give you that feeling.

00:14:17.000 The boat feeling.

00:14:18.000 Yeah, like you know the street is uneven when you drive it now.

00:14:22.000 Instead of just, no matter the flattest, most paved street, You know, you could feel the wave in it.

00:14:27.000 Oh, because you must have a pretty stiff suspension, right?

00:14:30.000 Yeah, that car came like that, though.

00:14:31.000 Yeah, well, those older cars were way more responsive.

00:14:34.000 They were way lighter, too.

00:14:36.000 Like, if you go to, like, the really older Porsches, like the old 911s, like the long hood models, I think it was like 65 or 64, I think it was, to 73. Those models, they're really light.

00:14:49.000 Like, that's a 2,000-pound car a lot of times.

00:14:52.000 So you feel everything when you're bumping around those things.

00:14:56.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:14:56.000 It feels more like a go-kart, you know?

00:14:58.000 And I was ignorant with mine.

00:14:59.000 Like, I had to buy tires for it, and they was like, it's 83, and I'm like, it's 150 horses.

00:15:05.000 I take it to the tire place, and they was like, yeah, you need these $150 tires. 0.99

00:15:09.000 And I'm like, no, fuck that. 0.99

00:15:11.000 This car has only got 150 horses. 1.00

00:15:13.000 Let's put some van tires on it. 1.00

00:15:15.000 You know?

00:15:16.000 And I bought two, like four brand new van tires.

00:15:19.000 What's a van tire?

00:15:20.000 Like tires that would go on a van.

00:15:21.000 Why would you do that?

00:15:22.000 Because to me it's just a tire. 0.99

00:15:24.000 Oh, that's ridiculous.

00:15:26.000 Slid on the freeway a bunch of times, just stopping.

00:15:29.000 And wasn't used to not having ABS automatic brakes.

00:15:33.000 And every time it would stump the brakes, you know, the car would slide on the freeway.

00:15:40.000 But I would stop in enough distance to where it would slide and not hit the car.

00:15:43.000 So you had anti-lock brakes?

00:15:45.000 No, I didn't.

00:15:46.000 I didn't have it.

00:15:47.000 What kind of car was this?

00:15:49.000 944. Those didn't have analog brakes?

00:15:52.000 Nope.

00:15:52.000 Not at 83?

00:15:53.000 That didn't come until like 86?

00:15:55.000 Hmm.

00:15:56.000 And you put van tires on.

00:15:56.000 Wow.

00:15:58.000 Jesus Christ, dude.

00:15:59.000 That's a sacrilege.

00:16:01.000 That's terrible.

00:16:02.000 It was.

00:16:03.000 But you learn lessons, you know?

00:16:05.000 You learn lessons.

00:16:06.000 Anytime you work on your car, it's cool, but you learn your lessons.

00:16:09.000 You learn about torque, applying torque to old cars and plastic pieces breaking.

00:16:15.000 Yeah.

00:16:16.000 And all type of stuff that, you know what antifreeze tastes like?

00:16:19.000 What?

00:16:20.000 You know what antifreeze tastes like?

00:16:21.000 What are you drinking antifreeze for?

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:23.000 You don't drink it, but you're having to be working on a leak or changing something and it drips and it gets in your mouth and you're like, oh, I get it.

00:16:31.000 It is sweet.

00:16:32.000 It's like Kool-Aid almost.

00:16:34.000 Does it really taste like wood?

00:16:36.000 I have no idea. 0.82

00:16:37.000 It looks disgusting.

00:16:40.000 Antifreeze looks nasty.

00:16:41.000 It looks like nuclear fuel or something.

00:16:45.000 Yeah, you learn your lessons with cars, you know, while you still can.

00:16:50.000 Those old ones, yeah, they're different.

00:16:52.000 You can actually work on them.

00:16:54.000 You can open up the hood.

00:16:55.000 There's stuff you can change.

00:16:56.000 You can swap out.

00:16:57.000 You can go to Pep Boys or whatever and buy a part.

00:17:00.000 New cars, man, you open up the hood and it's just like a computer.

00:17:03.000 It's like opening up the back of an iMac or something.

00:17:05.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.99

00:17:06.000 You have no idea what the fuck's going on there. 0.78

00:17:09.000 And everything's connected to some sort of computer management system. 0.98

00:17:14.000 Three in the Beamer is three.

00:17:18.000 Three what?

00:17:19.000 Three computers.

00:17:20.000 Yeah.

00:17:20.000 Really?

00:17:21.000 The ignition switch, when you put the key in, talks to this module, reads the key code, and it talks back and allows the car to crank.

00:17:30.000 But all that has to go through the main computer also.

00:17:34.000 Wow.

00:17:34.000 And I know that because I know coding and I studied engineering to my senior year, and I had to snatch a faulty remote start system out of the beamer when I got it.

00:17:47.000 So I had to go under the dash and rewire everything.

00:17:50.000 You did all that?

00:17:51.000 Yeah.

00:17:52.000 Wow, why'd you do that?

00:17:53.000 To take it out.

00:17:54.000 But did you know what you were doing?

00:17:56.000 What made you decide to embark on that?

00:18:00.000 That seems like something I would want to take to a dealer.

00:18:02.000 Well, I learned how to install car stereos.

00:18:06.000 My friend, when I was younger, he used to steal car radios, and he taught me.

00:18:10.000 Three basic things to start a radio.

00:18:13.000 Just like the cars.

00:18:14.000 You know, power, ground.

00:18:17.000 You can turn a radio on.

00:18:18.000 And the remote wire, which makes it switch on and off.

00:18:21.000 But you really don't need a remote wire to test a radio.

00:18:24.000 Just like you got a jump-started engine, you know.

00:18:27.000 But, you know, you start to learn a pattern of things.

00:18:31.000 Just like the universe has patterns.

00:18:32.000 When you learn combustion and stuff like that, the pattern is what's important to me.

00:18:38.000 Does that make sense?

00:18:40.000 No.

00:18:41.000 The universe has a pattern.

00:18:43.000 Yeah, like the universe, because now I'm on a bigger pattern scale, you know what I mean?

00:18:47.000 But, to me, yeah, the universe has a pattern in the way it runs, to me.

00:18:51.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:52.000 When it comes to seasons and things like that.

00:18:55.000 The revolution of earth around the sun, you know?

00:18:59.000 But, stereos also have that pattern.

00:19:03.000 That's an interesting comparison.

00:19:05.000 Well, they definitely have, like, whenever you're dealing with electronics, you have to have the power in the ground, and then there's a bunch of other stuff that goes on.

00:19:12.000 I installed some stereos when I was younger, you know, but they were easy back then.

00:19:16.000 It wasn't that hard.

00:19:17.000 You know, it wasn't that complicated.

00:19:19.000 You could get to everything pretty easily.

00:19:21.000 You could open up the dash pretty easily, pull out the existing stereo, and you just have to figure out where the power is and where the wires connect.

00:19:28.000 You tie everything up.

00:19:29.000 It wasn't that hard. 0.99

00:19:30.000 But I would never fuck with a new car. 0.99

00:19:33.000 Like a new Lexus or something like that? 0.99

00:19:36.000 Try to take stereo out of one of those things?

00:19:37.000 It's more tough, but if I break it down to you like this.

00:19:41.000 Coding and stuff is all if-and statements, right?

00:19:43.000 If-and.

00:19:44.000 If-and.

00:19:45.000 So if this, go there.

00:19:47.000 If that, go here.

00:19:48.000 Right.

00:19:49.000 Ones and zeros.

00:19:50.000 Right.

00:19:50.000 If it's one, boom, here.

00:19:51.000 If it's zero, boom, here.

00:19:53.000 Right.

00:19:53.000 And it's just a bunch of that going on.

00:19:54.000 Right.

00:19:55.000 Computing at one time.

00:19:57.000 That's the pattern.

00:19:58.000 Right.

00:19:59.000 You know?

00:20:02.000 That's so simple.

00:20:02.000 That's it?

00:20:04.000 Well, I mean, it's more complicated than that, right?

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:06.000 Well, yeah.

00:20:07.000 But it's a bunch of those all-in-one.

00:20:07.000 There's a lot going on.

00:20:09.000 Well, it's amazing how well these cars work when you really think about it, because, like, I have a Lexus, and I have a key that is actually in my wallet.

00:20:20.000 It's a credit card.

00:20:22.000 And that's my key.

00:20:23.000 So I don't ever take a key.

00:20:24.000 I just get in my car and it always knows it's me.

00:20:28.000 The light goes on near the side mirrors.

00:20:28.000 I come near it.

00:20:31.000 Like the side mirrors have like an underside light.

00:20:34.000 The light goes on.

00:20:35.000 The handle illuminates to let you know you're there.

00:20:36.000 It opens for you.

00:20:38.000 You just press start and go.

00:20:38.000 You get in.

00:20:40.000 It's crazy how often it works.

00:20:42.000 Like it never fucks up.

00:20:43.000 Yeah, and that's cool.

00:20:44.000 It is cool, but it's just, when you think about how many different things fail in terms of, like, electronics, you know, like, how many different people's iPhones start fucking up, most cars, especially when it comes to, like, your car, German engineering or Japanese engineering,

00:21:02.000 something like that, they're so fucking reliable.

00:21:05.000 I mean, the amount of times that they actually do fuck up is, people complain about it, but it's pretty small in comparison. 0.97

00:21:12.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:21:13.000 Well, I was in school and I learned and studied in 95 when it came to Lexus and Honda.

00:21:21.000 The car was pretty much perfect.

00:21:24.000 So they had to add features.

00:21:25.000 So now you notice where everything is about the features and less about, you know, and it's a cycle of cars having more power and cars saving gas and cars having more power.

00:21:36.000 That's just a pattern that's just going to happen.

00:21:38.000 Right.

00:21:39.000 But yeah, it's all about the features now.

00:21:41.000 Even with phones, it's all about the features.

00:21:44.000 Yeah, well, for sure.

00:21:46.000 I mean, with new cars, too, you have to have apps and all sorts of different things that your car can do.

00:21:51.000 Yeah.

00:21:51.000 But those older cars, the interesting thing is how long some of them last.

00:21:57.000 I have a friend who has a Lexus who has a million miles on it.

00:22:01.000 It's a million miles.

00:22:03.000 Is it a GS300? I don't remember what model it is.

00:22:09.000 It's one of the older, bigger ones.

00:22:12.000 Yeah, the big one.

00:22:12.000 Yeah, that's the one that's supposed to be an asset car.

00:22:16.000 Asset car.

00:22:17.000 Yeah, like it's going to appreciate.

00:22:18.000 Really?

00:22:19.000 Because, yeah, you know, the foreign cars are just now starting to appreciate versus the old American cars. 0.94

00:22:24.000 Well, you mean foreign, like Japanese.

00:22:26.000 Because, like, German cars are always kind of appreciated, right?

00:22:29.000 Like Porsches.

00:22:29.000 Well, yeah, Porsches and stuff like that.

00:22:31.000 But as far as, like, the little, like, yeah, Japanese cars and, like, the Lexus.

00:22:35.000 Well, you know what's really appreciating now, it's kind of interesting, is those old Nissan Skylines.

00:22:40.000 Yeah.

00:22:41.000 The ones that became the GTRs.

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:44.000 You know, you look at a GTR now, it...

00:22:46.000 It's very different looking.

00:22:47.000 It's very spaceship looking.

00:22:48.000 But the older ones are kind of like more retro and kind of cool looking.

00:22:51.000 But the oldest ones now are starting to become like really valuable.

00:22:55.000 Yeah, like the early 90s and late 80s.

00:22:58.000 Yeah, it's just hard to find one that's not molested. 0.99

00:23:01.000 Because a lot of people took them and they did shit to the fenders and they fucked with this and fucked with that. 1.00

00:23:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:23:07.000 I just told a chick about that the other day.

00:23:09.000 We was talking about cars and I was like, yeah, it's hard to find something.

00:23:12.000 You can find one that's not been molested.

00:23:14.000 She was like, what? 0.84

00:23:15.000 And I had to explain to her what molested was and what retard was and what tranny is. 1.00

00:23:22.000 What retard? 1.00

00:23:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:23:24.000 For a car?

00:23:25.000 Yeah.

00:23:26.000 Like when it don't turn over, it's like when it don't move forward, like something's holding it back.

00:23:31.000 Uh-huh.

00:23:31.000 Yeah.

00:23:32.000 You call that a retard? 1.00

00:23:33.000 Yeah, it's a retard. 1.00

00:23:34.000 Oh. 0.99

00:23:35.000 Like if you try to turn the car and it won't turn over. 0.98

00:23:37.000 Oh, it's like retarded, like it's slow. 1.00

00:23:40.000 Yeah, like it won't turn. 0.82

00:23:42.000 Oh, okay.

00:23:43.000 And they mostly use it, like the Europeans use it most of the time.

00:23:46.000 Do they really?

00:23:47.000 They use it as a standard term?

00:23:49.000 Yeah, like if you read some of the blogs and stuff, it's like, you know, it's amazing.

00:23:54.000 Do you read blogs on cars?

00:23:56.000 Yeah, because I work on my car myself.

00:23:59.000 So, yeah, anytime you're trying to diagnose a problem, it's more reading than actually going out to figure out what it is.

00:24:08.000 That's interesting.

00:24:09.000 So you read all that kind of stuff, but you don't read up about suspensions or different tire offsets or anything like that?

00:24:16.000 No.

00:24:16.000 How come?

00:24:17.000 I don't know.

00:24:18.000 I think I really never really, what they call, souped a car up or modified it too much.

00:24:25.000 You know, so everything I get, I usually just ride basically, and I can have fun with that.

00:24:31.000 Because I'm not a high-end horsepower guy.

00:24:33.000 I just need it to be quick and, like, turn and handle well.

00:24:37.000 And I just live dangerously within that, you know.

00:24:41.000 You live dangerously within those parameters?

00:24:43.000 Yeah, within those parameters, yeah.

00:24:46.000 Well, those cars, like, you know, you have a BMW 3 Series, like, those cars, they handle great anyway.

00:24:52.000 Like, my friend Eddie bought one of those a few years back, and he had before that, like, an old, shitty Bronco.

00:24:58.000 And when he got that BMW 3 Series, he was like, oh my god, man.

00:25:03.000 He goes, I like driving now.

00:25:04.000 He goes, I never knew that driving was actually fun.

00:25:07.000 Like, I would go, he would go, he goes, I would take Mulholland just for fun.

00:25:07.000 Yeah.

00:25:12.000 Like, just decide, I'm going to take it this way.

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:14.000 Even though it's longer, just go, you know.

00:25:17.000 I took, I was in Topanga, like, last month with the car.

00:25:20.000 The rotors are warped now.

00:25:23.000 Pure warped.

00:25:24.000 Your rotors are warped?

00:25:25.000 My rotors are warped.

00:25:27.000 From what?

00:25:28.000 From just breaking and just driving fast.

00:25:31.000 On Topanga?

00:25:31.000 On Topanga.

00:25:32.000 How many times did you do it?

00:25:34.000 That day, I was filming something, like a documentary, and I went hard that day.

00:25:39.000 But it was already warped before I went that day.

00:25:42.000 You were filming a documentary in your car?

00:25:44.000 Yeah.

00:25:45.000 What are you doing?

00:25:46.000 Somebody was doing a documentary on creating how comedians create content.

00:25:52.000 And I was showing them how I get inspired and what gets me in the mood.

00:25:57.000 And the car is one of those things.

00:26:00.000 Because when you talk about a set, you're talking about engineering.

00:26:05.000 You mean a comedy set?

00:26:06.000 Yeah.

00:26:07.000 And just the balance between the left and right brain, the logic side and the creative side, and the balance between the two.

00:26:16.000 Because my style is basically that balance, you know?

00:26:21.000 Oh, you don't know.

00:26:22.000 Well, I'm trying to get, so you get this by driving?

00:26:27.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:26:28.000 Yeah, I mean, driving is something that's beautiful.

00:26:30.000 I took them to a junkyard also because the death of a car and the rebirth of parts when you need it.

00:26:36.000 You know, the life and death, the yin and yang of that.

00:26:39.000 And I took them to Topanga Canyon because I did acid in Topanga.

00:26:45.000 It's a good place to do acid. 0.94

00:26:46.000 Yeah, so at one part...

00:26:47.000 Kind of unoriginal, though.

00:26:48.000 A lot of acid going on in Topanga.

00:26:50.000 Yeah.

00:26:50.000 So when you're out there, you got nature, right?

00:26:53.000 And then when you turn to the street, you have all these sports cars, you know, which is beautiful.

00:27:00.000 You got a man-made creation that also has life to it.

00:27:07.000 I see how you're looking at me.

00:27:08.000 No, I'm just trying to follow you.

00:27:10.000 I get it.

00:27:11.000 I get what you're saying.

00:27:12.000 So we filmed, and I took traction control off, and it was four of us in that little car, and we just slid around a corner, and those guys were scared, you know?

00:27:24.000 Yeah, you were sliding.

00:27:25.000 Yeah.

00:27:26.000 On a residential street.

00:27:27.000 They should be kind of nervous.

00:27:28.000 It was a little nervous, and I was a little nervous, but that's what made it fun, you know?

00:27:31.000 We did that together.

00:27:33.000 Yeah, that's tricky, though, because that's kind of a lot of people driving Topanga.

00:27:36.000 Yeah, and that's what adds to the edginess of it, just like my set, you know?

00:27:42.000 It's that line.

00:27:43.000 You could call that edginess.

00:27:45.000 Yeah.

00:27:45.000 Or irresponsible on public roads, you could call that.

00:27:48.000 Yeah, but I don't, you know, once you get into that, that's like trying to figure out the offset of a tire, you know what I mean?

00:27:54.000 What do you mean?

00:27:55.000 Those little details. 0.99

00:27:57.000 Little details of what's fucking dangerous? 0.99

00:27:59.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:28:00.000 That's not a little detail.

00:28:02.000 When you're sliding sideways on a residential road?

00:28:06.000 You think that's a little detail?

00:28:08.000 Yeah.

00:28:09.000 That could be the difference between, you know, a man that was close and, like, somebody called 911, you know?

00:28:19.000 Uh, yeah, that's irresponsible, right?

00:28:21.000 Isn't it?

00:28:22.000 No.

00:28:22.000 No?

00:28:23.000 It's fine.

00:28:23.000 It's edge.

00:28:24.000 No worries.

00:28:25.000 Just edgy.

00:28:25.000 Yeah.

00:28:26.000 Just a little sliding around, losing control of your car on public roads.

00:28:29.000 No big deal.

00:28:31.000 It's like when we would be at high school at parties and like a gun would come out.

00:28:35.000 Oh Jesus.

00:28:36.000 And you thought the party was fine, but when that pistol came out, that's when real excitement happens.

00:28:43.000 In high school, dudes were pulling guns out in your parties?

00:28:46.000 Yeah.

00:28:47.000 Like, a party wasn't good unless the cops showed up.

00:28:50.000 Jesus Christ.

00:28:52.000 So yeah, if the cops didn't show up, it was alright.

00:28:54.000 And so when guns were getting pulled out, what were they getting pulled out for?

00:28:57.000 Uh, people probably was arguing about something.

00:29:00.000 How many times did you see this?

00:29:03.000 Not a lot of times.

00:29:04.000 It's just what happened regularly.

00:29:04.000 It's just what happened.

00:29:06.000 Like, you know, at the nightclubs, you start going to nightclubs.

00:29:10.000 Yeah.

00:29:11.000 These things will happen, you know? 0.99

00:29:13.000 Yeah, what do you think about all this shit lately? 0.99

00:29:14.000 It seems like every couple of days there's some sort of a mass shooting. 1.00

00:29:18.000 Well, the problem with being a black guy from those areas in your 30s, that's just what happens. 0.99

00:29:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:27.000 So, but in your 20s, any man really to me in the 20s is more fight.

00:29:32.000 It's like that military, like, we're not going to take this, yada, yada, yada.

00:29:36.000 But, you know, and I can imagine, like, I'd be imagining sometimes, I look at it in a funny way, like, to my grandmother, this is nothing.

00:29:44.000 You know what I mean?

00:29:46.000 Because they would, like, hang people and throw them over the bridge in the county where she's from and shoot them with shotguns for fun. 0.77

00:29:54.000 So this is like, you know...

00:29:56.000 To me, in her mind, she's like, oh, they need an excuse now.

00:30:01.000 Who was doing this?

00:30:02.000 Like, they were throwing people, hanging people over the bridge and shooting them for fun?

00:30:02.000 What do you mean?

00:30:06.000 Yeah, because I'm from the South, so things are a little, you know...

00:30:11.000 A little old school sometimes.

00:30:12.000 It's not that long ago when certain things happen, you know?

00:30:15.000 Like, Jim Crow and, like, these things aren't that old.

00:30:19.000 Like, you still hear the stories.

00:30:22.000 You're brought up, I don't want to say racist, but you're brought up to like, these people are the enemy.

00:30:30.000 You know, or be careful when you're on that side of town, or like they say, you might not come back home when you leave the house. 1.00

00:30:36.000 So what you're talking about is white people doing fucked up shit to black people. 1.00

00:30:40.000 Like this was something that was so common that it was just talked about all the time. 1.00

00:30:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:46.000 And you still had nice people, you know.

00:30:49.000 It's an honesty in it.

00:30:51.000 That I don't see anywhere else, because when I got out here, people act like racism didn't exist.

00:30:56.000 And it affected comedy like three years ago, you know? 0.97

00:31:00.000 Who the fuck was acting like racism didn't exist? 0.93

00:31:03.000 People would be like, oh, it's not, come on, it's not that bad at all. 0.99

00:31:06.000 Who was saying that?

00:31:07.000 People would say that.

00:31:08.000 It's not that bad?

00:31:10.000 Like it doesn't exist?

00:31:11.000 Yeah, like, we don't...

00:31:12.000 Well, people love to say that there's no racism because Obama's black.

00:31:15.000 That's hilarious.

00:31:16.000 That's one of my favorite ones.

00:31:17.000 Yeah, like, people act, and I was like...

00:31:19.000 Well, I'm still shell-shocked.

00:31:21.000 But my situation's different because I was treated unfair within my own community.

00:31:26.000 Then I left my community.

00:31:29.000 You know, like, I had the whole light-skinned, dark...

00:31:32.000 My sister's light-skinned, fair-skinned, I'm dark-skinned.

00:31:36.000 So you were treated poorly within your own community because your skin's too dark?

00:31:40.000 Well, because of that one thing and, you know, single mother being looked upon differently and we're in the Bible Belt.

00:31:47.000 So there's a lot of like not having nice clothes and bullying.

00:31:51.000 Right.

00:31:52.000 And then I got sent to a white school where I was spat at my first year, you know what I mean?

00:31:57.000 So to me, it was like this whole world is crazy, you know?

00:32:02.000 Yeah.

00:32:04.000 That's a weird thing, isn't it?

00:32:05.000 The racism inside the black community between light-skinned and dark-skinned people.

00:32:10.000 Well, it is until you go to, like, Brazil and you see...

00:32:14.000 Or they're all Brazilian and see the racism amongst Brazilians.

00:32:19.000 Or, you know, I start hanging out with other cultures and start seeing the separation within other cultures and seeing what I call a pattern of just human behavior.

00:32:32.000 Well, there's definitely a pattern in human behavior, trying to find groups that they belong to and then alienating and isolating themselves from the other groups.

00:32:40.000 Yeah, that's an unfortunate thing that people do.

00:32:44.000 The feminist thing to me is separating man from woman. 1.00

00:32:49.000 And then you got the gays and then you got what's going on between the black people and the cops. 0.84

00:32:58.000 You know what I mean? 0.96

00:32:59.000 Which is two groups that are opposing each other.

00:33:02.000 More so now than ever.

00:33:04.000 So you think feminism is separating men from women? 1.00

00:33:07.000 That's what they're doing?

00:33:07.000 I think it's a slight shifting of...

00:33:12.000 Especially with the guys, you know what I mean?

00:33:15.000 Oh, male feminists? 1.00

00:33:16.000 Male feminists and... 1.00

00:33:17.000 Male feminists are barely real. 1.00

00:33:19.000 It's weird.

00:33:20.000 It's a weird situation, you know?

00:33:21.000 Let me just park this joint and keep up with you. 0.98

00:33:23.000 Male feminists are seriously barely real. 1.00

00:33:26.000 They're barely real.

00:33:27.000 There's a very tiny percentage of men that are actually male feminists. 0.99

00:33:31.000 The smallest percentage are actually, like, adhere to those ideologies.

00:33:38.000 The vast majority are doing what's called virtue signaling.

00:33:41.000 Michael Shermer's got the best expression.

00:33:43.000 I wonder if that's his expression.

00:33:44.000 I see it everywhere.

00:33:45.000 I see it more often now than ever before, I think, since he's been on this podcast.

00:33:50.000 But what they're doing is just trying to make everybody think that they're amazing.

00:33:54.000 They're so virtuous.

00:33:56.000 They're so ethical and so moral and so open-minded and fair in their thinking that they identify as a feminist. 1.00

00:34:05.000 But most of it is guys that just can't get any pussy. 0.99

00:34:07.000 Well, I thought I was a true feminist, but... 1.00

00:34:11.000 I was talking to this young lady about how beautiful women are, and I was like, they like, I like to be in a place with beautiful women. 0.82

00:34:17.000 They like cars.

00:34:19.000 Want some minutes?

00:34:19.000 I'm good.

00:34:21.000 You sure?

00:34:22.000 Yeah.

00:34:22.000 Okay.

00:34:23.000 And she was like, you objectify women. 1.00

00:34:24.000 And I was like, well, I guess I objectify women then, you know? 1.00

00:34:27.000 You see that thing, Jamie, you see that thing I tweeted the other day from Cosmo, Cosmopolitan magazine, side-by-side cover.

00:34:37.000 It was a retweet from The Amazing Atheist.

00:34:42.000 Weed.

00:34:42.000 Side-by-side cover.

00:34:44.000 One of them was like, men who objectify women are the effing worst.

00:34:48.000 And then in the very next cover, it showed identifying men's bulges during the Olympics. 0.74

00:34:57.000 Yep.

00:34:58.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

00:35:00.000 Hypocrites. 0.99

00:35:00.000 Yeah, but I always... 0.99

00:35:02.000 Look at that.

00:35:04.000 Confirmed.

00:35:05.000 Confirmed. 0.99

00:35:06.000 Men who objectify women are effing horrible. 0.92

00:35:10.000 36 summer Olympic bulges that deserve gold. 1.00

00:35:13.000 And it's just guys' abs with their, you know, speedos looking at their cocks. 0.82

00:35:18.000 It's hilarious. 0.99

00:35:19.000 People are fucking hilarious. 0.98

00:35:20.000 I agree. 0.99

00:35:21.000 And I feel like, you know, when I talk, I try to be as truthful as possible, but I only learn through my ignorance.

00:35:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:35:29.000 You only learn...

00:35:30.000 Well, I don't say only learn through my ignorance, but... 1.00

00:35:32.000 You learn a lot from shit that you didn't know. 0.99

00:35:34.000 From messing up, you know what I mean? 0.99

00:35:35.000 Yeah.

00:35:36.000 Or not knowing.

00:35:38.000 Yeah.

00:35:39.000 I mean, I think feminism and all these things, there's like a giant scale, right? 1.00

00:35:44.000 Yeah.

00:35:45.000 And then there's feminism that totally makes sense to me. 0.75

00:35:49.000 I think there's a lot of women that they get treated unfairly. 1.00

00:35:54.000 They work with assholes who just want to fuck them or want to treat them like shit because they're a woman or they have power over them and they know they can pull some stuff on them that they can't pull on men. 1.00

00:36:06.000 I think that's 100% real. 1.00

00:36:08.000 And I think there's a lot of women that are awesome. 1.00

00:36:11.000 They're cool, they're creative, they're funny, they're powerful.

00:36:15.000 And, you know, to call it feminism or whatever it is, they're just awesome humans. 0.99

00:36:20.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:36:21.000 And they happen to be women. 1.00

00:36:22.000 You know, so I think, like... 0.92

00:36:25.000 In some ways, the idea of feminism is to recognize those women for what they are, just awesome human beings, and to sort of shield them and protect them against a lot of sexism, a lot of misogyny, a lot of shit that gets directed in their direction. 1.00

00:36:40.000 And I know it's real. 0.93

00:36:41.000 It's 100% real.

00:36:41.000 I've seen it.

00:36:43.000 There's a lot of sexism.

00:36:45.000 Just like anybody that would say to you that there's no racism. 1.00

00:36:48.000 That is fucking preposterous. 0.99

00:36:50.000 Of course there's racism. 1.00

00:36:51.000 There's racism amongst black people against other black people. 0.80

00:36:54.000 Yeah, I experienced that. 1.00

00:36:55.000 I think there's just ignorance, just foolish people. 0.98

00:36:58.000 And I think in a lot of ways, it's not even the people's fault. 0.98

00:37:02.000 A lot of what we are is a measurement of who our parents were.

00:37:07.000 Who their parents were, the neighborhoods that we lived in, the people that we were exposed to, and the think process, the thought process that surrounds these areas is super difficult to escape.

00:37:19.000 You know, it's just really hard for people to think outside of the box.

00:37:19.000 Yeah.

00:37:23.000 It's easier now because you might live in a bad neighborhood with a bunch of silly people that don't think very well, but you have access to the internet now. 0.71

00:37:31.000 So now you can start to take in other ideas and consider those ideas. 1.00

00:37:34.000 Maybe these fucking people around me are assholes. 0.99

00:37:37.000 Well, the problem with the internet is, and I got friends and family that don't have the thought of going to the internet. 1.00

00:37:47.000 That's the problem with the internet?

00:37:49.000 Not the internet, but with that situation.

00:37:55.000 If I have a conversation with somebody and I was like, why don't you just Google it?

00:37:59.000 And they was like, what?

00:38:00.000 I'm asking you. 1.00

00:38:01.000 Yeah, you're hanging around with silly people. 0.98

00:38:03.000 It's 2016. This is just people I'm related to, you know what I mean? 0.97

00:38:07.000 Yeah, there's nothing you can do about that.

00:38:08.000 Nah, but it's...

00:38:09.000 You gotta leave them behind.

00:38:11.000 It's tough, though.

00:38:12.000 It's tough.

00:38:12.000 It's tough, man.

00:38:13.000 I mean, I have left, but I realized once I left home, the only person that's educated or the person who thought outside the box is gone.

00:38:22.000 You were the only person that was thinking outside the box.

00:38:22.000 Mmm.

00:38:25.000 For the most part, yeah.

00:38:26.000 Well, what do they think about you being like this sort of subversive comedian, you know? 0.99

00:38:31.000 You're this like open-minded, free-speaking dude who says wild shit on stage, you know? 0.99

00:38:37.000 They don't get it. 0.99

00:38:38.000 Do they think you're funny?

00:38:40.000 No.

00:38:43.000 To be honest.

00:38:43.000 Well, I'm here to tell them they're wrong.

00:38:46.000 No, they don't.

00:38:46.000 You're very funny.

00:38:47.000 You can just tell by the look in their face when they see it.

00:38:51.000 It's not what they...

00:38:52.000 It's not world star hip-hop, you know?

00:38:54.000 Yeah.

00:38:54.000 Is that what they're expecting?

00:38:55.000 Yeah, that's what they found funny.

00:38:57.000 Like, look at this dude who gets slapped, you know?

00:38:59.000 Oh, okay.

00:39:00.000 Yeah, so it's just a different...

00:39:02.000 I've socially, economically, mentally crossed over, you know?

00:39:09.000 Right.

00:39:10.000 But it happened so long ago.

00:39:12.000 So you feel like you can't relate sometimes when you're talking to them?

00:39:15.000 Well, in a sense, but the things you find interesting, they might not find interesting.

00:39:23.000 And there's always a thing in the black community when they was like, how desegregation ruined the black community because it took the doctors and lawyers out of the community. 0.95

00:39:32.000 But, them niggas don't want to hang around them niggas. 1.00

00:39:35.000 Them doctors ain't trying to sit around motherfuckers that drink alcohol all day. 1.00

00:39:39.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

00:39:40.000 And they trying to talk about how to invest and what percentage the bank returns versus IRA or something like that.

00:39:51.000 So I understand why these things happen now.

00:39:56.000 Why people move out.

00:39:57.000 Yeah.

00:39:58.000 But that's the journey that I'm on and then I try to go back and explain those things.

00:40:06.000 There's amazing aspects to all sorts of different ethnicities, different parts of the world, different groups of humans.

00:40:14.000 There's like amazing aspects of their culture that they have that it's gonna be weird if all that stuff gets lost.

00:40:22.000 But I think ultimately what human beings eventually are gonna have to figure out is the only things that matter are like I mean, it's really like basically straight Martin Luther King,

00:40:38.000 Jr. Judge a man by the content of his character or a woman. 0.57

00:40:42.000 Who are you?

00:40:43.000 But we can identify each other so easily by what we look like or where we're from.

00:40:49.000 It's so easy.

00:40:50.000 So many people are so proud of being from a certain part of the world.

00:40:54.000 And in some ways, I think it's kind of cool, like Armenians. 1.00

00:40:58.000 Talk some shit about Armenia in front of Armenians. 1.00

00:41:01.000 They'll smack the fuck out of you. 1.00

00:41:03.000 They don't play, man. 1.00

00:41:04.000 They're fucking loyal to that and they don't even live there anymore, man. 0.98

00:41:08.000 That's like being someone who's really into being American and living in South America. 1.00

00:41:13.000 If you talk shit to an expat that lives in South America, if you're like, man, America's shit. 1.00

00:41:21.000 America's fucked up, it's ruined the world. 1.00

00:41:22.000 He's like, yeah, that's why I'm here. 1.00

00:41:24.000 That's why I'm here, bitch. 1.00

00:41:25.000 I got the fuck out. 1.00

00:41:26.000 I got the fuck out because I didn't want to deal with it anymore. 0.99

00:41:30.000 There's something cool about that, these people that come over here, and they're unapologetically... 0.98

00:41:35.000 One of the things I like about Armenians, I'm not picking on them, I'm complimenting them.

00:41:40.000 They're unapologetically masculine.

00:41:43.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:41:44.000 Those dudes will wear fucking wife beaters and tank tops with gold chains hanging down. 1.00

00:41:49.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

00:41:51.000 They rock it so old school.

00:41:53.000 I like it in a lot of ways.

00:41:53.000 Yeah.

00:41:55.000 Walk with the chest out.

00:41:56.000 Yeah.

00:41:57.000 They look through you sometimes.

00:41:59.000 See, I don't want to lose that because I think there's something cool about what that community represents.

00:42:06.000 I don't want to lose that.

00:42:07.000 I don't think you lose it.

00:42:10.000 I hope not.

00:42:11.000 Well, I mean, I'm from a situation like I got African friends and when we met, they had to sneak me in their home because I'm not African.

00:42:21.000 Really?

00:42:22.000 Yeah.

00:42:22.000 Because you're from America.

00:42:23.000 Yeah.

00:42:24.000 What part of Africa are they from?

00:42:26.000 Nigeria.

00:42:26.000 Okay.

00:42:27.000 It's funny, like, saying someone's African. 1.00

00:42:30.000 It's like, do you know how fucking big Africa is? 1.00

00:42:32.000 Yeah, that is true. 0.98

00:42:33.000 There's so many different countries in it.

00:42:35.000 I was, uh, I think it was Zamibia. 1.00

00:42:38.000 I was watching some documentary about Zamibia last night.

00:42:42.000 I think it's Namibia.

00:42:44.000 Namibia?

00:42:45.000 Maybe Namibia. 0.78

00:42:46.000 Namibia?

00:42:47.000 Extremely underpopulated.

00:42:49.000 It's enormous. 0.99

00:42:50.000 It's like bigger than Texas by like one quarter, which is Texas is fucking huge. 0.96

00:42:56.000 So this country is bigger than Texas by more than one quarter, and I think it only has like two million people in it. 0.96

00:42:56.000 That's huge. 0.96

00:43:03.000 And they were showing this one village that they visited, how little Rainfaller was.

00:43:09.000 They had one inch of rain in three years.

00:43:13.000 It's crazy, man.

00:43:15.000 When you're looking at how these people live.

00:43:17.000 I like watching documentaries that highlight human beings that just easily could be you or me.

00:43:24.000 Easily.

00:43:24.000 If just this happened and that happened and our mother gave birth in this weird part of the world.

00:43:29.000 And they're just people, man.

00:43:31.000 These kids are real playful.

00:43:31.000 They're waving.

00:43:33.000 They're waving to everybody.

00:43:34.000 They're waving to the camera.

00:43:36.000 They're so excited that the camera people are there to film this.

00:43:39.000 And they're out there cooking.

00:43:40.000 And it's so dry.

00:43:43.000 It's so dry.

00:43:44.000 You know, you're looking at them like, where are they getting their water? 1.00

00:43:47.000 Where's the fucking water? 0.99

00:43:48.000 There's no water. 1.00

00:43:49.000 This is crazy.

00:43:51.000 On this documentary, they had a problem.

00:43:53.000 It was a show.

00:43:54.000 It's actually called Uncharted.

00:43:56.000 It's this guy named Jim Shockey, and he travels all over the world.

00:44:00.000 He's a professional hunter, and he visits these communities.

00:44:03.000 A lot of times, he's helping people.

00:44:05.000 They had to take out some crocodiles, and they'd become addicted to eating people or accustomed to eating people.

00:44:13.000 In this one, they had to stop a hyena.

00:44:16.000 That was killing all their livestock. 0.67

00:44:18.000 This hyena would come in and just mangle their livestock. 0.99

00:44:21.000 And they had to get up in the middle of the night and then drive there super early in the morning before the sun came up to observe this hyena because he would only be there for like a few moments in the early, early morning and then he would bolt.

00:44:33.000 But it looks like a werewolf.

00:44:35.000 Like this werewolf that's tearing apart this cow. 0.80

00:44:38.000 And I'm watching this and I'm like, these people are living in these little houses near this. 1.00

00:44:44.000 This fucking thing is out there just mangling their cows. 1.00

00:44:47.000 They have no water. 1.00

00:44:48.000 It's dry as fuck. 0.99

00:44:50.000 It's so fascinating, man. 1.00

00:44:52.000 Anyway, that is a country in Africa.

00:44:55.000 Yeah.

00:44:55.000 Of course, there's other countries that are tropical.

00:44:57.000 There's other countries...

00:44:58.000 I mean, Africa is... 0.99

00:44:59.000 It is insane how big that place is.

00:45:02.000 I haven't even been.

00:45:03.000 I was gonna go this summer, but I found out that you have to take malaria shots.

00:45:08.000 And I'm like, I'm not giving malaria medication to my kids. 1.00

00:45:11.000 Fuck that. 1.00

00:45:12.000 Just fuck that. 1.00

00:45:13.000 Yeah, those things... 1.00

00:45:14.000 Shots, I'm not a fan of. 1.00

00:45:16.000 The malaria ones are supposed to be particularly abrasive on your body.

00:45:20.000 I don't want to see my kids walking around poisoned just because I thought it would be cool to go see an elephant in its natural environment.

00:45:27.000 Take a picture.

00:45:28.000 I can't lift my arms. 0.92

00:45:29.000 I mean, I think it would be fucking cool to see for sure.

00:45:33.000 Yeah, the Africans I met were so real, but they broke down the... 1.00

00:45:39.000 The white man wolf theory to me.

00:45:41.000 The white man wolf?

00:45:42.000 Yeah.

00:45:42.000 What's that?

00:45:43.000 Like, you're not full-blooded.

00:45:45.000 You're not African no more. 1.00

00:45:46.000 You're a white man's wolf. 1.00

00:45:47.000 You're like their pets. 1.00

00:45:48.000 Oh, that's you?

00:45:49.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:45:49.000 That you would be the white man's wolf? 0.99

00:45:51.000 That's why on the low, in the community, you hear black people saying, no, we're not African Americans. 0.97

00:45:55.000 Because they consider themselves African Americans. 0.73

00:45:58.000 Yeah, I had a buddy of mine who went to Africa with another black guy who was telling me the same thing.

00:46:02.000 He's like, dude, he goes, don't ever call yourself an African-American.

00:46:05.000 He goes, because you go over there, he goes, they don't like you. 1.00

00:46:08.000 He goes, they don't like you, they don't want to see you, and they're jealous, and they get angry at you, and they want to fuck you up. 0.99

00:46:14.000 And I go, really? 0.99

00:46:15.000 He goes, don't ever think you're going back to Africa.

00:46:15.000 He goes, yeah.

00:46:17.000 No.

00:46:18.000 But it's weird because you see people holding up the fist and all this other stuff, but we're so far removed.

00:46:24.000 I consider us a group of people that, you know, things have happened in our past, so we're afraid of that, but we don't know how our future looks either. 0.94

00:46:31.000 Well, it seems cool to have this idea that there's Africa and it's like fucking Narnia, or it's like the blue people that lived in the fucking Avatar. 0.82

00:46:45.000 What was that planet? 0.96

00:46:47.000 The planet they lived on.

00:46:48.000 I forgot the name of it.

00:46:50.000 Those trees were beautiful.

00:46:52.000 Yeah. 0.98

00:46:52.000 Goddammit. 0.98

00:46:53.000 It's like...

00:46:54.000 It reminded me of unobtainium.

00:46:58.000 Pandorum?

00:46:59.000 Pandora.

00:47:00.000 Pandora.

00:47:01.000 Yeah.

00:47:01.000 Pandora.

00:47:03.000 Pandora.

00:47:03.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 Like the app.

00:47:05.000 Yeah.

00:47:06.000 That's hilarious.

00:47:08.000 But I remember, like...

00:47:10.000 The way people would think of Native American life is really similar.

00:47:17.000 They would think they'd have this idyllic existence.

00:47:19.000 It was beautiful.

00:47:20.000 They lived in harmony with nature.

00:47:22.000 They only killed what they needed.

00:47:24.000 There was no war.

00:47:25.000 I've had bizarre conversations with hippies about North America. 0.85

00:47:30.000 Yeah.

00:47:30.000 About Native Americans.

00:47:31.000 And not that I'm anti-Native American.

00:47:33.000 I'm by far the opposite.

00:47:35.000 I think it is insanely cool that this place was populated just a few hundred years ago by people that were essentially living the way people lived tens of thousands of years ago.

00:47:48.000 And they were successful at it.

00:47:48.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:47:49.000 They didn't even have horses, man.

00:47:52.000 They didn't have horses until European settlers.

00:47:54.000 A lot of people don't realize. 0.71

00:47:56.000 What's even more fucking weird about that is that horses actually evolved in North America. 0.93

00:48:01.000 Horses started in North America and made their way to Africa on land masses and became zebras over the course of millions of years. 0.81

00:48:10.000 This is one of the weirdest things about Plains Indians and horses, is that they didn't really have them. 0.99

00:48:18.000 But there's some belief.

00:48:20.000 This is all from this guy, Dan Flores, who's a, I guess you would call it an environmental historian.

00:48:26.000 I think that's what he's called.

00:48:30.000 I'm reading one of his books on coyotes, but what he was talking about North America that they almost they had like almost like a myth about About horses like it's possible that at one point in time they had domesticated horses Somewhere in North America like you know tens of thousands of years ago,

00:48:48.000 but this is all like pre ice age Ice age hits ice age thaws out like a lot a lot of shit has gone down here But those people, they did not live an avatar existence, is my point.

00:49:01.000 Like, Native Americans would go to war with each other. 0.99

00:49:04.000 They'd fucking kill each other. 1.00

00:49:05.000 They'd do horrible things. 1.00

00:49:06.000 The ones in the Great Lakes area, they did a lot of cannibalism. 1.00

00:49:11.000 The Nez Perce, I think the name of the Indian they were talking about, they would, like, kill their enemies and shit. 1.00

00:49:16.000 They would find trappers and kill them and eat them. 0.99

00:49:19.000 You know, like, it was not... 0.91

00:49:21.000 This beautiful world.

00:49:23.000 But apes do the same thing, but I think it's just a matter of resources, right? 1.00

00:49:27.000 That's how I look at it.

00:49:28.000 Sure.

00:49:29.000 It's also the same reason why racism exists. 0.99

00:49:32.000 People get in this us versus them thing where they want these people, whoever these people are, they want everybody has to be on this team and fuck everybody else. 0.97

00:49:42.000 Because that's the only way they feel like they can survive. 0.99

00:49:44.000 That's the old way.

00:49:46.000 But what's interesting to me, I think, is that In this day and age, that old way is just melting in front of our eyes because people understand each other. 0.99

00:49:56.000 How many white people have Black Lives Movement hashtagged on their fucking Twitter page? 1.00

00:50:01.000 A fuckload, man. 1.00

00:50:02.000 How many people today are racist and compared to 100 years ago? 0.99

00:50:07.000 It's probably radically lower.

00:50:08.000 It's lower.

00:50:09.000 It's amazing. 1.00

00:50:11.000 Is that how white women want to fuck black dudes because of this thing? 1.00

00:50:14.000 So in a way, it's not for nothing. 1.00

00:50:18.000 You know what it's like, dude?

00:50:19.000 It's like you're a first liner.

00:50:21.000 You're a first responder.

00:50:22.000 Like the 9-11 firemen. 1.00

00:50:23.000 They got mad pussy after 9-11. 1.00

00:50:25.000 Those guys were superstars. 1.00

00:50:27.000 Girls would just fuck firemen. 1.00

00:50:28.000 For real. 1.00

00:50:29.000 Especially if a girl worked in a building that was close to where the towers went down. 0.99

00:50:33.000 Those guys were goddamn heroes. 0.99

00:50:35.000 All their hero genes fired up. 0.99

00:50:37.000 I wonder if that's what makes men want to do it in the first place. 1.00

00:50:40.000 They know that women are gonna think they're heroes and fuck them. 1.00

00:50:42.000 I think so. 1.00

00:50:43.000 I think guys, like, want to be the alpha, you know, in a certain...

00:50:46.000 I found my place to be an alpha, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:50:49.000 So if I was a black guy, I would probably play up racism big time just for white pussy. 1.00

00:50:55.000 However you can play it up. 1.00

00:50:58.000 It's chicks that told me, yeah, now you just want to make out with black. 1.00

00:51:01.000 They feel there's nothing they can do, so they just want to make out with black guys. 0.99

00:51:04.000 There's nothing they can do?

00:51:05.000 They feel so whatever about what's happening, that they want to just make out with black, just to make it, you know, contribute somehow. 0.72

00:51:13.000 And I was like, you know.

00:51:15.000 Well, there's a few videos that have come out this year where everybody's got to go.

00:51:21.000 Okay.

00:51:22.000 Well now, give me an excuse now.

00:51:25.000 Explain it now.

00:51:26.000 There's a few, like the one that the guy got shot in his car, reaching for his wallet with his wife and kid in the car.

00:51:35.000 Tell me these things don't exist, because everybody was like, ah, that's how they said it went down, but you know the guy probably said something, or he went and reached for something, or maybe he had a record, maybe they knew this guy was a dangerous...

00:51:47.000 No, no, no.

00:51:50.000 Nope.

00:51:51.000 Just a dude complying, reaching for his wallet and gets unloaded on by some fucking psycho, some stressed out PTSD'd. 1.00

00:52:01.000 Who knows what the fuck is going on in that guy's head? 1.00

00:52:05.000 Who knows? 0.99

00:52:06.000 You know, one of the things I thought was interesting, they had this video online recently that I saw.

00:52:10.000 It was...

00:52:11.000 They took this guy who was an active...

00:52:15.000 He was a big-time detractor of the police.

00:52:18.000 He was talking about how horrible the police are, and they invited him to go through one of their police training safety courses.

00:52:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:52:27.000 And what they do is they you're supposed to determine when to shoot or when you when you can get shot when when someone could be a threat when you have to shoot them It was fucking amazing. 0.99

00:52:37.000 It's amazing to watch because this guy in just a few of these scenarios started freaking out Like he got shot in a couple of them when they shoot you they shoot at the ground in front of you with a blank So he had to realize that this is how quick a cop can get shot by a psycho. 0.94

00:52:55.000 And so there's different times where he got pulled over, where he pulled someone over, or where he was handling this one guy in a parking lot, and the guy went behind the car real quick and then came out and shot him within a second.

00:53:06.000 He's like, sir, can I see some identification, sir?

00:53:10.000 Yeah, man.

00:53:10.000 I'm just working, dude.

00:53:10.000 Hey, man.

00:53:11.000 I'm just getting my stuff here. 0.97

00:53:12.000 And he goes in the back and pulls out a gun and shoots him.

00:53:14.000 He's like, this happened. 0.84

00:53:16.000 This is an actual scenario.

00:53:17.000 This has happened.

00:53:18.000 It's probably happened a hundred times.

00:53:20.000 A bunch of times.

00:53:20.000 Yeah, so they have to...

00:53:22.000 They are always fucking like this, man. 0.99

00:53:24.000 They're always like... 1.00

00:53:25.000 And you know how people are.

00:53:27.000 Some people are like, Oh my God, we're almost out of gas.

00:53:30.000 Oh my God, we're almost out of gas.

00:53:31.000 We're almost out of gas.

00:53:32.000 What are we going to do? 1.00

00:53:33.000 And you're like, Will you shut the fuck up? 0.99

00:53:33.000 What are we going to do? 0.99

00:53:35.000 If we get out of gas, we'll walk to a goddamn gas station. 0.99

00:53:39.000 It'll take us 20 minutes. 0.99

00:53:40.000 We'll get some gas.

00:53:41.000 Don't cry.

00:53:41.000 We'll come back.

00:53:42.000 Jesus Christ.

00:53:43.000 Yeah, I know somebody talked to a cop and they said that Well, how they started working and then 11 years later.

00:53:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:53:51.000 Going into those areas where these things always happen.

00:53:55.000 And after years and years, it just wears on you.

00:53:59.000 For sure.

00:54:00.000 And I know from the air, just me growing up in situations, you know what I mean?

00:54:04.000 Yeah.

00:54:04.000 I wouldn't want to go back.

00:54:05.000 I'd barely go back there, you know?

00:54:07.000 So, but it do give you nerves.

00:54:09.000 Your nerves heighten.

00:54:10.000 It naturally kicks in.

00:54:12.000 You know, and like, yeah.

00:54:12.000 100%.

00:54:14.000 And some people can't handle those nerves.

00:54:16.000 Mm-mm.

00:54:17.000 You learn how to breathe quietly.

00:54:18.000 You don't know.

00:54:19.000 You can walk down the street and somebody can put a little pistol out on you.

00:54:25.000 I've been driving down the street with my ex-lady and she was talking and I was like, get down.

00:54:30.000 Because I saw a guy draw on a corner and shoot across the street at another guy.

00:54:34.000 And as the gun went up, we drove under the fire, right?

00:54:41.000 It was long.

00:54:42.000 It was long.

00:54:44.000 And as it went up, we went under.

00:54:46.000 We got the second shot off and I drove and I was like, man, that was crazy.

00:54:46.000 Oh my God.

00:54:50.000 Like, I'm that guy.

00:54:51.000 Like, we made it.

00:54:52.000 Like, get up.

00:54:53.000 That was crazy.

00:54:53.000 We made it.

00:54:54.000 And she's like, you gonna call the police?

00:54:55.000 And I was like, for what?

00:54:57.000 And she's like, to tell what happened.

00:54:58.000 And I was like, no.

00:55:01.000 I don't want to be.

00:55:02.000 And that's how crazy it is that you don't even want to be involved because you got to go to the cops.

00:55:06.000 And I ended up calling the police.

00:55:08.000 And they was like, can you describe the victim?

00:55:10.000 I was like, white t-shirt, blue jeans.

00:55:13.000 That's all I said.

00:55:14.000 And they was like, was he black?

00:55:16.000 And that was just a long pause.

00:55:18.000 It was a long pause.

00:55:20.000 And they was like, sir, is he black? 0.99

00:55:22.000 And I was like, man, you know that nigga was black. 1.00

00:55:25.000 I just hung the phone up. 0.99

00:55:27.000 I just hung the phone up, man.

00:55:33.000 It felt weird, but yeah, because I realized, yeah, like, Yeah, it's just weird things that happen, but it's interesting what goes on because I met guys who shot at people before and shot people.

00:55:47.000 So if you hear anything about my set, you know I know both sides.

00:55:51.000 Right.

00:55:52.000 You know what I mean?

00:55:53.000 So it's just interesting.

00:55:55.000 Out of dudes you know that shot people, how many of them got caught?

00:55:59.000 One.

00:56:03.000 Oh my god.

00:56:04.000 One, because he ended up shooting my best friend's sister in a baby.

00:56:09.000 In a passion crime.

00:56:10.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:56:11.000 And his last words to me was, he was weird.

00:56:14.000 I was leaving the house one night.

00:56:16.000 We was in a project. 1.00

00:56:17.000 You know, he played cards and shit. 0.98

00:56:19.000 Like, I don't really went into that like that. 0.96

00:56:22.000 But I remember leaving, and he was just on the steps, and he looked up at me.

00:56:27.000 And he was like, hey, man.

00:56:28.000 He was like, you smart.

00:56:30.000 You got a chance to get out of here.

00:56:32.000 And it was one of those weird moments, you know.

00:56:36.000 And he was like, man, just keep doing you.

00:56:38.000 No matter how weird or whatever people say, y'all just keep doing you type situation.

00:56:41.000 Wow.

00:56:42.000 And he's like, I love you.

00:56:43.000 And I don't use love like that.

00:56:44.000 So I was just like, all right.

00:56:46.000 You know, all right.

00:56:47.000 And then I left.

00:56:48.000 And then that was my last time seeing him, you know.

00:56:52.000 How long after that did he do the crime?

00:56:54.000 Probably like a week or two.

00:56:57.000 Because I was out of town and I got back and it was just...

00:57:00.000 Yeah.

00:57:01.000 There's war zones.

00:57:03.000 That's a war zone.

00:57:04.000 I mean, when you're in an area that has a lot of shootings, So much so that you drive under a car and you don't even want to call the cops. 0.93

00:57:12.000 You know, like if you saw something like that in Beverly Hills, if you were an average person who's like a successful accountant, who has a nice home in Beverly Hills, and you're driving to your house and someone shoots over your car, fucking for sure you're calling the police, right?

00:57:27.000 Because it's rare.

00:57:27.000 It doesn't happen there very often.

00:57:30.000 That is, if you think how many people die during wartime every year, Find this out, Jamie.

00:57:39.000 I wonder if this is possible to know.

00:57:42.000 I was going to say how many shootings occur in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:57:45.000 How many military-involved exchanges of firearms occur?

00:57:51.000 And then compare it to how many people get killed in America every day from gunfire.

00:57:57.000 And, you know, everybody's like, well, is this a gun rights issue?

00:58:02.000 No, just looking at what's happening.

00:58:05.000 Like, looking at where are the, like, super dangerous spots.

00:58:09.000 And the mindset and the so-called lack of resources people think they have.

00:58:16.000 When you say lack of resources, you mean no hope for the future?

00:58:21.000 Or just fear-based or I gotta eat, you know what I mean?

00:58:23.000 Like the power company don't care that you all love each other and you're trying to go get better your life.

00:58:29.000 Exactly.

00:58:30.000 And sometimes your lady, your girl, don't even want to hear that either.

00:58:34.000 I think that is a big part of what keeps these communities exactly the same way.

00:58:39.000 You know, there's a dude named Eddie Wong.

00:58:41.000 He's a chef and an author, and he's done a bunch of cool shit, and he's a funny dude.

00:58:46.000 He's got a show on Vice.

00:58:47.000 And he brought up this idea of universal basic income.

00:58:51.000 And he's like, you know, just giving people enough money every year so they live.

00:58:56.000 You know, like, you don't have to worry about your bills.

00:58:58.000 Everything's paid for.

00:58:59.000 Yeah.

00:59:00.000 Everything after that, you have to work for. 0.99

00:59:02.000 And I remember thinking, that is fucking ridiculous. 0.98

00:59:04.000 You can't give people things. 1.00

00:59:05.000 People are going to get fucking lazy. 0.98

00:59:07.000 That's not going to work. 0.97

00:59:09.000 But now, the more I think about it, the more I think of, that might be the best way To curb crime, to curb need, to curb people doing things out of total desperation, to curb a certain amount of despair that some people feel.

00:59:25.000 And then from there, it might be like a jumpstart for people pursuing other ideas that might successfully contribute to the economy.

00:59:34.000 I don't know enough about the economy to really comment.

00:59:37.000 I'm just reading a bunch of different things a bunch of people have said about it, and I'm like, wow.

00:59:42.000 So it might actually make sense in terms of law enforcement, in terms of unemployment, like all sorts of different things where you would have to factor in where the money would come from.

00:59:53.000 And I was like, wow.

00:59:54.000 It's kind of counterintuitive, but once you look into it, you're like, look, How many of these people that are super desperate and don't have money for bills, there's no jobs, how many of those people would relax a lot if they got X amount of dollars a year?

01:00:09.000 Like whatever it is, they would survive.

01:00:11.000 I know like with myself, I'm like I'm around people that make money now and they like money is not important, but I'm like you made it to the mountaintop already.

01:00:19.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:20.000 You made a certain income, but when you surviving, you don't have time to feel things.

01:00:27.000 You don't have time to be philosophical.

01:00:29.000 Or to feel like I'm sad.

01:00:32.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:33.000 Or these things.

01:00:35.000 I even look at my mom differently now because she at one point lost her children.

01:00:40.000 You know, and she had to get them back.

01:00:42.000 And she raised us in survival mode.

01:00:44.000 So she never thought of reading a self-help book or learn how to money manage and do all those things.

01:00:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:50.000 And me and my sister had a place now where we could do those things, you know?

01:00:54.000 Where we could talk about, you know, how we feel or even look back and see where we went wrong.

01:01:00.000 And that's just a luxury that, you know...

01:01:03.000 I see what you're saying.

01:01:04.000 A mother who was a father, a mother, a woman...

01:01:07.000 Who becomes a guy and take those roles on, it does something to her.

01:01:12.000 Emotionally, you know what I mean?

01:01:15.000 You know, so...

01:01:18.000 When her kids is gone now, she might have a chance to grow and see what things went wrong if she doesn't feel it's too late.

01:01:25.000 Right.

01:01:26.000 Yeah.

01:01:27.000 But in survival mode, and I try to tell people that who try to talk about these issues but never been in the situation before and feel the need to go out and see why people get out and don't look back or they try to help people and people concentrate on other things.

01:01:42.000 The reason why.

01:01:44.000 Yeah.

01:01:45.000 That, yeah, the survival mode is very primal.

01:01:49.000 You know, the law don't matter in survival mode.

01:01:53.000 Or, yeah, you can take things.

01:01:56.000 You can run up in the store and take things.

01:01:57.000 Because you're just that hungry, you know what I mean?

01:01:59.000 Yeah.

01:02:00.000 So, yeah, I've seen and been a part of all these things.

01:02:04.000 You like clothes, you want luxury stuff to the point that you would take it.

01:02:07.000 You know, go to a mall and take a polo shirt.

01:02:10.000 Yeah.

01:02:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:12.000 So, yeah.

01:02:15.000 Yeah, survival mode is a place that most people have no idea, right?

01:02:20.000 Most people are just guessing.

01:02:21.000 Me included.

01:02:22.000 Just guessing.

01:02:23.000 Well, there's people that is in a situation even worse than mine.

01:02:26.000 And yeah, you see what it does to people.

01:02:30.000 And after a while, they kind of like it.

01:02:34.000 They might make six figures, but they still go to the projects.

01:02:37.000 Because it's exciting.

01:02:39.000 It's exciting, one.

01:02:40.000 And two, they can't communicate with people who've been making $100,000 their whole life or grew up in that situation.

01:02:47.000 Well, you know, that's a big thing with people that go to war.

01:02:50.000 People that have been to war, they, for some reason, even though it was awful and they saw friends die, it was the best time of their life.

01:02:58.000 Yeah.

01:02:59.000 It's like there's something about living knowing that any moment you could be dead that makes the live moments, the moments when you're not dead, more special.

01:03:08.000 And then you come back here and everything's sort of muted.

01:03:11.000 Yeah.

01:03:12.000 It's toned down, you know? 0.99

01:03:14.000 I think that's why a lot of rich people, they start, if they don't have any meaning in their life, they don't have a thing that they're really into, they just start buying shit.

01:03:22.000 They just start collecting houses and boats and they're just trying to figure out there's got to be something exciting to do here.

01:03:28.000 There's got to be something.

01:03:29.000 Yeah.

01:03:30.000 You know?

01:03:30.000 Well, once I started making like $30,000 a year doing stand-up, it changed me because I wasn't invited to LA. I slept on the floor for a year.

01:03:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:41.000 I did the whole car thing and built everything up from there.

01:03:45.000 You living out of the car?

01:03:46.000 You were doing that?

01:03:47.000 Yeah, for like a couple weeks, you know, but...

01:03:49.000 Everybody's got a cool story that makes it.

01:03:51.000 We might make it then.

01:03:52.000 I know a lot of people, like Ronda Rousey, she had a cool living out of her car story. 0.98

01:03:55.000 Oh man, that was a very interesting interview.

01:03:57.000 Very emotional, you know?

01:03:59.000 Yeah, man.

01:04:00.000 A lot of people had the living out of your car.

01:04:02.000 Yeah, but to me, that's kind of normal for LA. But I figured, I think I made it, part of me think I made it when I graduated from college, because I was the first to graduate from college.

01:04:11.000 And I was like, I gotta unlearn everything I was taught now.

01:04:15.000 How so?

01:04:16.000 Because it's institutionalized thinking.

01:04:18.000 To me, there's no difference between college and prison sometimes to me.

01:04:23.000 It's way different.

01:04:23.000 What?

01:04:24.000 You can quit college.

01:04:25.000 Well, yeah, you can.

01:04:26.000 You can.

01:04:27.000 That's true.

01:04:28.000 But, you know, both get money for how many occupants they have.

01:04:32.000 Right.

01:04:32.000 I look at those stats and they teach you.

01:04:35.000 It's a society within both, you know.

01:04:38.000 Then even the military, because I went to Afghanistan for 13 days.

01:04:42.000 I think colleges are incredibly important, but I think that like all things When the world around them evolves quicker than they do, it creates issues.

01:04:54.000 And I think a lot of what you're seeing...

01:04:56.000 I've talked to some kids who go to school that are taking these classes from ridiculous left-wing professors who are basically communists. 0.93

01:05:05.000 And there's a lot of them. 0.94

01:05:07.000 It's not just a few.

01:05:08.000 And this left-wing thinking is like super uber prevalent on campus to the point where it's like distorting kids' versions and views of the world.

01:05:16.000 And it's trickled down.

01:05:18.000 It's the students.

01:05:19.000 It's the faculty.

01:05:20.000 There's a lot going on.

01:05:22.000 Ultimately, a lot of it is like the people at the very top of it all.

01:05:25.000 It's really kind of fascinating because those people are shaping people's minds.

01:05:30.000 And they're involved in a lot of ways from what comes out of that in a cultural sense.

01:05:37.000 But there's a lot of backlash because of that too.

01:05:39.000 There's a lot of people that are going to those schools and now are reading online accounts of what these professors do.

01:05:45.000 And now a lot of these professors have zero experience in the world itself.

01:05:50.000 They just live in academia.

01:05:52.000 They get the degree, they go from getting a degree to teaching, and they teach, and they don't enter the world.

01:05:58.000 So they live in this world of these sort of esoteric ideas, these philosophies that they would like to be real, but might not necessarily be real.

01:06:09.000 They teach kids.

01:06:10.000 I was kind of fortunate in that because I took some weird tests in elementary school that sent me to these schools.

01:06:21.000 Upper middle class, high school.

01:06:23.000 They just figured out you're smart?

01:06:24.000 Yeah, but it alienated me from my community.

01:06:28.000 We got bused to a school, so everybody in my apartment complex got on a bus and went to school, and then we got separated to where it was like five black people in this class, and when we would go to lunch, we'd have to walk on different sides of the hall, and everybody from my neighbor would just mush me coming through the hall and stuff.

01:06:45.000 So things started to happen then.

01:06:48.000 How could they not see that coming?

01:06:50.000 That almost seems like one of those government experiments.

01:06:52.000 Like a psychological Tuskegee experiment.

01:06:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:06:57.000 In a sense, but what happened was by the time...

01:07:00.000 Like my professors were like rich millionaires.

01:07:02.000 Because they taught the subject that they...

01:07:06.000 Right.

01:07:07.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:08.000 I would say like a comedy class, except that teacher made it.

01:07:14.000 Right.

01:07:14.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:16.000 So they write books and shit? 1.00

01:07:17.000 They write their own books. 1.00

01:07:18.000 They got millions.

01:07:20.000 They doing this because they want to.

01:07:23.000 They retired already.

01:07:25.000 I think my stat teacher retired at 30. You know what I mean?

01:07:29.000 30?

01:07:29.000 Yeah.

01:07:30.000 He wrote his own book, and I didn't like that. 1.00

01:07:32.000 Goddamn bar. 0.99

01:07:33.000 Because I couldn't steal his book. 1.00

01:07:34.000 You couldn't steal it?

01:07:35.000 Uh-uh.

01:07:36.000 Why not?

01:07:37.000 Because he wrote his own book.

01:07:39.000 So we had to buy it from him, and he downloaded it somehow.

01:07:44.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:07:45.000 So he sold you his own.

01:07:47.000 He had to sell his books every time a class.

01:07:49.000 He taught, woo, that's tricky.

01:07:52.000 So I went to college my freshman year and then had books, because in high school they provided books, and I didn't know you needed books.

01:07:59.000 So I made money to buy a book, and they got book buyback programs.

01:08:03.000 But they give you 25% of what the book's worth.

01:08:06.000 Right.

01:08:07.000 And I just couldn't get into that.

01:08:09.000 So I had to steal books, and I would sell the books at 50%.

01:08:14.000 You would steal them and sell them?

01:08:16.000 Yeah.

01:08:16.000 Would you steal a physical copy of the book?

01:08:19.000 Yeah.

01:08:20.000 Where would you get them?

01:08:20.000 From the bookstore.

01:08:22.000 Just snag them from the bookstore?

01:08:23.000 Yeah, because the thing that the alarm they had, or the alarm, and it's funny because the engineering book school, but it never was hooked up properly.

01:08:31.000 Ah!

01:08:32.000 So, and I was thin enough just to put it in my waistband and walk out.

01:08:36.000 This is all very alleged.

01:08:38.000 Never really happened.

01:08:39.000 Yeah, it never really happened.

01:08:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:40.000 This is just fiction for a podcast.

01:08:42.000 If I was to write a book, though, this is how it would be done.

01:08:46.000 Right.

01:08:46.000 But I didn't do it like on massive.

01:08:48.000 I didn't do massive because I know what grand theft is.

01:08:50.000 Right.

01:08:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:52.000 So it's only a few people that I supplied and it's easy.

01:08:56.000 You buy, you're getting it for 50% and then you're getting half of that money back at the end of the semester?

01:09:00.000 Yeah.

01:09:00.000 That's a good deal.

01:09:03.000 Yeah, that's a pretty good deal.

01:09:04.000 Win-win.

01:09:06.000 Except for stealing.

01:09:07.000 The stealing part, but...

01:09:07.000 The stealing part.

01:09:08.000 I allegedly might have gotten college books that way, too.

01:09:11.000 A lot of them.

01:09:11.000 Really?

01:09:12.000 Super common?

01:09:13.000 Well, today kids can just download most things, right?

01:09:16.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:09:17.000 It must be really hard for them to sell their books now.

01:09:19.000 Because kids can just go to a BitTorrent.

01:09:21.000 Because especially if there's a college course that's in a major university, most likely someone's going to upload it to a torrent, right?

01:09:28.000 Would you assume?

01:09:29.000 But it wasn't Torrance.

01:09:30.000 I went to school when Napster dropped, so we was a group that pushed all that forward.

01:09:35.000 I remember.

01:09:36.000 Yeah, I remember the the crazy argument about Napster.

01:09:39.000 I remember I had to sit back and Go I remember very clearly when that Metallica guy got involved Lars Ulrich got involved and he was you know saying that this is stealing and and he was going crazy and freaking out I remember literally sitting back because I was listening to it on Sirius satellite radio.

01:09:58.000 I think it was a time or something I was listening to something on my car.

01:10:02.000 What year was that?

01:10:03.000 Like what year was Napster?

01:10:06.000 O2. Was there even Sirius satellite radio?

01:10:08.000 Am I imagining this?

01:10:09.000 It might have been the radio.

01:10:10.000 Actual radio.

01:10:11.000 XM was right around that same time, I think.

01:10:13.000 It might have been whoever it was out here.

01:10:15.000 It might have been Howard Stern.

01:10:16.000 I was listening to something, and they were talking about it.

01:10:19.000 And I remember thinking, just stepping back and going, whoa, this is a new thing.

01:10:25.000 People have figured out how to get stuff for free online that normally would be like 20 bucks or 10 bucks or whatever the fuck it is.

01:10:33.000 And I remember thinking, whoa, this is a new door that just opened up.

01:10:38.000 I remember sitting back in my chair.

01:10:41.000 I was in my car. 0.99

01:10:42.000 I remember the fucking parking lot. 0.99

01:10:43.000 I was going to buy dog food. 0.99

01:10:45.000 And I was listening to this.

01:10:46.000 And I remember I sat back and I went, oh, man, this is a moment.

01:10:50.000 This is a real moment in our culture.

01:10:52.000 Well, before then, look, our dorms didn't even have the internet.

01:10:56.000 Right?

01:10:56.000 You didn't have the internet in your dorms?

01:10:57.000 You still had to go to the computer lab.

01:10:59.000 So check this out.

01:11:00.000 Check this out.

01:11:01.000 This was the hustle.

01:11:02.000 We met two white guys.

01:11:03.000 One guy broke his foot when he was young, and his dad gave him an old computer, and he started working a little card game.

01:11:09.000 And from there, he learned programming.

01:11:12.000 Right?

01:11:13.000 And he said, we can give him access to a computer lab.

01:11:16.000 He can supply our rooms with the internet.

01:11:20.000 Because they were wired, but it wasn't hooked up.

01:11:23.000 So he can get the numbers and if-and statements and make the thing communicate with one another.

01:11:29.000 So a few of us in the dorms had internet.

01:11:33.000 Whoa, you guys hacked the dorms?

01:11:35.000 It's like an episode of MASH. And this is the problem with learning how to hustle in survival mode.

01:11:40.000 You learn how to get stuff for free, but you don't learn how to monetize it all the time.

01:11:46.000 But what we did was...

01:11:49.000 We started selling CDs and stuff like that.

01:11:52.000 You know what I mean?

01:11:53.000 So you'd download stuff and then sell CDs?

01:11:55.000 Because nobody had laptops or nothing like that.

01:11:58.000 Oh.

01:11:59.000 Wow.

01:12:00.000 Yeah.

01:12:01.000 These are crazy stories.

01:12:03.000 We're going to look back on this.

01:12:04.000 This is like those people when the camera first got invented.

01:12:07.000 Yeah.

01:12:08.000 We stood around for four hours and he painted us.

01:12:08.000 Yeah.

01:12:11.000 And I'd be like, what?

01:12:12.000 What?

01:12:13.000 I mean, this is literally what that's like.

01:12:15.000 This is what happens, man.

01:12:16.000 And I think a year or two earlier, I was in the crack game a little bit.

01:12:21.000 You were in the crack game?

01:12:22.000 A little bit.

01:12:23.000 Like six months.

01:12:24.000 That should be a meme.

01:12:25.000 I was in the crack game a little bit.

01:12:27.000 Picture of Byron Bowers.

01:12:28.000 This thing was new.

01:12:30.000 This thing was a new hustle because more people love music.

01:12:34.000 Yeah, when did the crack game open up?

01:12:36.000 That was 80...

01:12:37.000 The 80s.

01:12:38.000 Something.

01:12:40.000 That was when everything became, uh, they blamed everything on crack.

01:12:43.000 Yeah, it was.

01:12:44.000 They literally blamed everything on crack.

01:12:46.000 The epidemic.

01:12:47.000 Like, all white people were terrified of crack.

01:12:49.000 They thought that for sure.

01:12:51.000 For sure.

01:12:51.000 You want some of those?

01:12:52.000 What was that?

01:12:54.000 I know you're looking at it.

01:12:55.000 Oh, wow.

01:12:56.000 So, bite the top off of it and pour it in your drink.

01:12:59.000 You'll get smarter.

01:13:00.000 It, um, it affected me in the 90s, mid-90s.

01:13:03.000 How so?

01:13:04.000 With my father and my aunt.

01:13:08.000 The sea of deterioration of people and families, like full on.

01:13:20.000 Somebody you look up to just, you know...

01:13:25.000 It was a way for people to get coke way easier, right?

01:13:29.000 Yeah.

01:13:30.000 That's basically what it is.

01:13:31.000 You get the same high for a short amount of...

01:13:33.000 for cheaper, you know what I mean?

01:13:34.000 Five, ten dollars.

01:13:35.000 But it has a different effect.

01:13:36.000 It must have some sort of a different effect because people say that the crack thing, like after you do it, it's like really good in the beginning and then it's not so good after a while.

01:13:45.000 Is that the same with coke?

01:13:46.000 I think you're still chasing that high.

01:13:48.000 I haven't did coke...

01:13:50.000 Yet.

01:13:50.000 Ever?

01:13:51.000 Nah.

01:13:51.000 You say yet though.

01:13:52.000 You're leaving the possibility open.

01:13:54.000 Byron Bowers ready to party.

01:13:55.000 You know, everything I've done, I do it for...

01:13:59.000 Experiment with it.

01:14:00.000 To understand addiction and learn...

01:14:04.000 Comedy makes me so happy that I don't have to lean on anything for any emotional thing.

01:14:11.000 So when I do it, it's just to see what it's like.

01:14:14.000 When I did Shrooms, I was there documenting the experience.

01:14:21.000 And then I would go back into it and I can go out.

01:14:23.000 Being self-aware mentally.

01:14:26.000 Almost like from an engineering perspective, you're trying to back-engineer what's going on when you're doing these drugs.

01:14:32.000 Try to figure it out.

01:14:33.000 Let me write this stuff down, then I'll go back and look at it and try to figure out how I got there.

01:14:37.000 Well, even when I got in the crack business, it was like, let's see what makes you so powerful.

01:14:41.000 I remember having it in my hand, like, let's see what makes you so powerful.

01:14:44.000 You were saying that to the crack itself?

01:14:45.000 Yeah.

01:14:46.000 What did it say?

01:14:47.000 I'll show you what I run powers.

01:14:52.000 When it ended, it was a low for me.

01:14:54.000 When I stopped selling...

01:14:56.000 The loaf of you?

01:14:57.000 It was a loaf for me.

01:14:58.000 Because I didn't know that the person who sells it is addicted just as much as the user.

01:15:04.000 Because you're addicted to selling it?

01:15:05.000 The power, the money.

01:15:08.000 When you walk in the building, people know who you are.

01:15:11.000 The control you have over people.

01:15:13.000 I'm like, this is what white power feels like.

01:15:19.000 It was a guy who ran into a store, got some clothes, and brought it back.

01:15:27.000 Because he didn't have any money.

01:15:29.000 That's a powerful thing, you know?

01:15:32.000 Right.

01:15:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:15:34.000 People are sucking your dick, you know, and stuff like that. 1.00

01:15:38.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

01:15:39.000 How does it equate to a guy getting some clothes and bringing them back?

01:15:42.000 What?

01:15:43.000 How what?

01:15:43.000 The power?

01:15:44.000 Yeah.

01:15:45.000 Because they don't...

01:15:46.000 There's nothing they would normally do.

01:15:48.000 You could make somebody do that, you know what I mean?

01:15:52.000 So I look at it like if I was, and I could think like a 1% because I got a business, I was educated in business, so they give you a Republican mindset.

01:15:59.000 So if I was in control of a society, right, and I had a group of poor people and I controlled the resources, and this happened on the street with drugs too, that's why a drug dealer would get robbed.

01:16:09.000 If I control the resources, I can allow it to go out or I can not allow it to go out.

01:16:14.000 I can control the price point.

01:16:16.000 And if you can't afford it, you know what I mean?

01:16:19.000 Then it's like, okay, let's see what else you could do.

01:16:24.000 To get this thing that you want.

01:16:26.000 So you were getting addicted to the power of controlling these people, of having these people dependent upon you.

01:16:33.000 You would show up.

01:16:34.000 You would be important.

01:16:35.000 You'd be making money doing something that's kind of dangerous.

01:16:37.000 There's a bunch of different things going on.

01:16:39.000 I did it enough to see it, but I didn't do it long enough to get full power.

01:16:42.000 How long did you do it?

01:16:42.000 I think probably six months or a semester or two.

01:16:44.000 How'd you get out of it?

01:16:46.000 It was at one point I got propositioned to take control over this town.

01:16:53.000 And it was at a point consciously where, like I was at a private college.

01:16:58.000 I lived a triple life.

01:16:59.000 I had basketball scholarship.

01:17:02.000 I had classes that I was failing.

01:17:05.000 It was a religious college.

01:17:06.000 I had white friends and then I would go to the black community and hustle at night. 0.57

01:17:12.000 It's a lot of stuff to do, you know what I mean?

01:17:16.000 Like, at one point, I was shot at. 0.99

01:17:18.000 I was hanging with my white friends, and they didn't know what the fuck was going on. 0.99

01:17:21.000 You got shot at with your white friends? 0.99

01:17:23.000 Yeah, because they wanted to buy weed. 0.96

01:17:24.000 But guess what?

01:17:24.000 They had to go to get weed in this other place, you know what I mean?

01:17:29.000 Oh.

01:17:30.000 Yeah, so, and that person, allegedly, his uncle worked for me.

01:17:36.000 This is the first allegedly of the night, ladies and gentlemen.

01:17:37.000 Yeah, all this is alleged, you know what I mean?

01:17:41.000 So, uh...

01:17:43.000 I remember it was a pharmaceutical company in that town that made a lot of money and I remember standing outside face to face with it and I was like, this is a setup we'll never win.

01:17:51.000 This is where all the money is right here in this pharmaceutical company.

01:17:56.000 It's legal, you know?

01:17:57.000 And I met a guy who was addicted to crack.

01:18:00.000 He owned a pharmaceutical company and CVS bought him out for like 1.5, 1.8 million dollars.

01:18:07.000 And you know where all that money went, you know?

01:18:11.000 And these things made me be like...

01:18:15.000 And then the fact I was getting angry because I'm realizing how unfair life is.

01:18:21.000 Because now I'm meeting black people.

01:18:24.000 Grandparents went to college.

01:18:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:27.000 And during that time, they would do brown paper bag tests to see if you was allowed to go to school within the black community.

01:18:32.000 They would put a brown paper bag up to you, and if you was lighter than that, you could go to school and stuff.

01:18:39.000 What?

01:18:40.000 Yeah!

01:18:41.000 Who did this?

01:18:42.000 This was like certain HBSUs, you know, black universities and stuff like that.

01:18:47.000 I know they would do that just to get in a fraternity, you know?

01:18:50.000 Really?

01:18:50.000 Yeah, you can research this stuff.

01:18:52.000 A brown paper bag is so white.

01:18:54.000 I know, man.

01:18:55.000 You're telling me.

01:18:56.000 Look at me.

01:18:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:59.000 Wow.

01:19:01.000 So...

01:19:02.000 The anger started to come, and then you in the streets hustling, and I don't think I had the mentality.

01:19:07.000 It got to one point I knew that if I crossed the line, like if I would have harmed somebody in a very bad way, there's no coming back from that.

01:19:14.000 And I don't think I was ready to make that decision.

01:19:16.000 But I do know the guy, when I left, he went on to build that part of town and finished.

01:19:23.000 It was just two of us at the time, but it became a crew of six, and each made 13-5 a week take home.

01:19:32.000 Wow.

01:19:32.000 By the time they hit five, six, and seven years.

01:19:34.000 But by the time I linked back up with him, he was the only one left.

01:19:40.000 Alive.

01:19:41.000 Alive or not in jail.

01:19:43.000 You know, religion saved him.

01:19:45.000 Really?

01:19:46.000 So he pulled out because religion the rest when we're gone?

01:19:49.000 Yeah, but I just saw the way my mind where I just saw stuff early You know, you just put the pieces together early, right?

01:19:56.000 Well, that's that's a skill That's a skill that a lot of people have to learn and you learn it by watching either you do your own fuck-ups or you watch a lot of people fuck up around you Yeah, like if you talk to the children of alcoholics, they rarely drink I shouldn't say rarely. 0.99

01:20:11.000 What I should say is I run into a lot of people who were the children of alcoholics who realized, like, fuck that noise. 1.00

01:20:19.000 And they realized growing up with unreliable parents, they were fucked up. 0.99

01:20:24.000 And those people, you know, there's like proof positive. 0.99

01:20:28.000 You don't have to actually go through the mistake to learn yourself.

01:20:32.000 But once I learned, I didn't hate drug dealers no more.

01:20:34.000 But until then, I did.

01:20:36.000 Because one knocked my dad's eye out.

01:20:39.000 I heard he climbed the flagpole for fun because he didn't have no money.

01:20:44.000 But before then, this was a guy that raised me who managed to...

01:20:49.000 We live in a small two-bedroom apartment to him amassing a five-bedroom house and cars and boats because he was just that smart and good.

01:21:01.000 And I seen it all disappear, you know what I mean?

01:21:04.000 What I call like king falling or something like that.

01:21:07.000 Right, right.

01:21:08.000 So I just wanted to see like the other part of that.

01:21:10.000 And I would be in the crack house asking people's parents about how their kids feel about this.

01:21:17.000 And they, you know, no, no, no.

01:21:20.000 You know, I don't want to talk about that right now.

01:21:22.000 So even during that time, I'm still like gathering information and just...

01:21:28.000 What's most insidious about crack is that it affects poor neighborhoods in general and black neighborhoods in particular.

01:21:37.000 That's one of the weirder drugs because there was crack in poor white neighborhoods. 0.99

01:21:42.000 There was an area called Lowell in Massachusetts that had a big problem.

01:21:47.000 I think it was crack or was it heroin?

01:21:49.000 There was crack neighborhoods for sure.

01:21:53.000 I know poor white people that smoked crack. 0.93

01:21:55.000 But it seems way more prevalent in black communities.

01:21:59.000 And I always wonder, like, what's the need that's being met when a drug provides a certain type of sensation?

01:22:10.000 Like, what is the need that's being met that uniquely attracts it to certain neighborhoods?

01:22:18.000 I don't know that.

01:22:19.000 I really don't know.

01:22:20.000 I know it was cheap for certain.

01:22:22.000 It wasn't cheap where we was doing it at.

01:22:24.000 That's what made it so profitable.

01:22:25.000 But do you think that it's because of all these pressures that you were talking about?

01:22:29.000 Like you're talking about this despair.

01:22:31.000 You're talking about how it just feels like you can't get out. 0.98

01:22:34.000 You're stuck in this bad place with all this danger and violence and just the constant fucking pressure of that. 0.97

01:22:42.000 I think so. 0.94

01:22:42.000 I look at what my aunt and dad, the type of people they are, personality-wise, very friendly. 0.94

01:22:47.000 And them being in a Bible Belt where you're taught you got to behave a certain way. 1.00

01:22:51.000 But they are real horny people and they like to fuck. 1.00

01:22:55.000 It's true. 1.00

01:22:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:56.000 They do.

01:22:57.000 You know what I mean?

01:22:57.000 So just being confined.

01:23:02.000 Growing up with two parents, I hear my friends be like, they had pressures that I didn't have.

01:23:08.000 I didn't have a curfew or nothing.

01:23:10.000 You know, but I was just a good kid.

01:23:12.000 I was still, they called me a square when I was younger.

01:23:15.000 I didn't partake in anything, but I would be out.

01:23:18.000 I'd be like, it'll be like right there and I see it.

01:23:21.000 But just instinctively, I knew better.

01:23:23.000 But I see people who came up a certain way with certain values.

01:23:29.000 Even my friends, they had to live with that for a while.

01:23:32.000 Right.

01:23:32.000 Well, I had the freedom to be like, nah, I'm gonna do this.

01:23:36.000 So you had the forethought or foresight to see where this could all be a problem, and then you got proven correct. 0.52

01:23:44.000 So you got to see all these other people fuck up doing all these things. 0.95

01:23:49.000 Yeah, well, I noticed, like, oh, my grandmother and granddaddy are snuff cigarette people. 0.99

01:23:55.000 Snuff?

01:23:56.000 That stuff's so weird. 0.99

01:23:58.000 Explain that shit for people who don't even know what snuff is. 0.99

01:24:01.000 Snuff is like a powder form of tobacco, almost. 1.00

01:24:05.000 Like, chewing tobacco is what the dudes did.

01:24:08.000 And snuff is what the women did. 1.00

01:24:10.000 It's a powder form, and they still put it in their mouth, and they got a spit cup, and they'll always be like, oh, you know, as a kid, go grab my spit cup.

01:24:17.000 Ugh! 0.99

01:24:17.000 You watch a lady just spit in this beautiful ass spit cup. 0.99

01:24:22.000 They get a paper towel and put it at the bottom so it don't make a noise. 0.99

01:24:25.000 You remember that was like a big deal in the Wild West?

01:24:28.000 They'd have spittoons. 0.98

01:24:29.000 Yeah.

01:24:30.000 Remember that?

01:24:31.000 I saw one at the Capitol to the Capitol in Sacramento and they got those spit things. 0.96

01:24:37.000 I used to work with this dude.

01:24:39.000 He was a stuntman on Fear Factor.

01:24:40.000 His name is Perry. 0.91

01:24:41.000 Perry's crazy. 0.99

01:24:43.000 He used to swallow his tobacco juice. 1.00

01:24:45.000 Oh, that's gangster.

01:24:46.000 He said he was working on movie sets so often that he couldn't spit.

01:24:57.000 He couldn't carry around his cup and spit, so he started just swallowing his tobacco juice and then got used to it.

01:25:02.000 The most I've drank...

01:25:07.000 The most I've drank and did tobacco.

01:25:08.000 I did tobacco before.

01:25:10.000 You drank tobacco?

01:25:11.000 No, I drank alcohol and did tobacco because I used to do focus groups.

01:25:14.000 My Nigerian friends, they put me on. 1.00

01:25:16.000 So they give you $50, $75, $100, $200 to drink and taste it and give your opinion on it, right?

01:25:23.000 Right.

01:25:23.000 But if you...

01:25:24.000 Because my name is Byron Bowers, which could be Byron Powers, which could be Brian Bowers, Brian Powers.

01:25:29.000 I could do four focus groups in one day.

01:25:32.000 So you just change your name a little bit?

01:25:34.000 Change name, put on a different shirt.

01:25:36.000 Ha! 0.89

01:25:36.000 This is the hustles that we had. 0.89

01:25:40.000 In college to me, college is where poor people learn white collar crimes and stuff, right? 0.85

01:25:45.000 So I had to do tobacco and they never would do it.

01:25:49.000 Some people and I would do it.

01:25:50.000 And then they would be in the tobacco meeting.

01:25:53.000 It'd be like me and the redneck white guys.

01:25:55.000 They all like, yeah, man, this one tastes a little more like the citrus flavor pops more in this, you know?

01:26:03.000 And I'm in there just lit, eyes red.

01:26:06.000 Like, I'm in there just chewing my, hanging out my mouth.

01:26:09.000 I can't even spit right.

01:26:10.000 What is the feeling of doing chewing tobacco when you don't do it?

01:26:14.000 What does it do to you?

01:26:15.000 In that group, I think it's like, um...

01:26:18.000 The equivalent to, like, you just get, like, a weird buzz feeling.

01:26:22.000 Like, you just real, like, your eyes are red and...

01:26:24.000 They say it's really good to write on.

01:26:26.000 They say, like, nicotine is one of the best things to write on.

01:26:29.000 It's like, it's like a more, it's like an alertness.

01:26:31.000 Alert.

01:26:32.000 Like, if I eat chocolate or drink coffee, like, my heart explodes and I just start doing this.

01:26:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:38.000 Right.

01:26:38.000 So, it's, like, an alert version of that, but you still, like, happy and stuff at the same time.

01:26:43.000 Like, as if you're on alcohol.

01:26:44.000 It's like you buzzed in a way.

01:26:45.000 So, it's better.

01:26:47.000 Better than coffee?

01:26:49.000 It's more of a drunk feeling than coffee.

01:26:54.000 Huh.

01:26:55.000 To me.

01:26:56.000 From chewing tobacco?

01:26:58.000 Yeah.

01:26:58.000 What kind of this?

01:26:59.000 Is this like the loose leaf stuff?

01:27:00.000 Yeah, that skull stuff that you watch people do it and you don't even know how to spit. 0.90

01:27:08.000 They look so nasty.

01:27:11.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:12.000 And I saw this one fucking dude who was doing public service announcements. 0.99

01:27:16.000 He was going to colleges and high schools, rather, and grammar schools, and he was missing most of his lower jaw. 0.99

01:27:24.000 He got jaw cancer from doing chewing tobacco.

01:27:28.000 Yeah.

01:27:28.000 I think he was a baseball player.

01:27:29.000 He used to be this strapping, handsome gentleman.

01:27:32.000 And then as time went on, the cancer ate his jaw away.

01:27:36.000 It stings to me.

01:27:37.000 It stings to me.

01:27:39.000 It's like a stronger spearmint mint feeling.

01:27:43.000 And if you don't know how to do it right, it gets all in you.

01:27:46.000 Well, how many people actually get cancer from that stuff?

01:27:49.000 I don't know, man.

01:27:50.000 It seems like there's a lot of people that do that stuff, right?

01:27:53.000 They don't got no electronic version now?

01:27:55.000 Like they got e-cigarettes?

01:27:56.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:27:57.000 Well, I mean...

01:28:00.000 Apparently, according to people that smoke cigarettes, e-cigarettes just don't give you the same rush.

01:28:05.000 I can't believe that.

01:28:06.000 They don't give you that kick.

01:28:09.000 At the end of the day to me, but it's still smoke going inside your lungs.

01:28:12.000 Yes, it's still smoke going inside your lungs, but it's not.

01:28:16.000 Those e-cigarettes are vapor.

01:28:18.000 It's actually a liquid tobacco, and then it vaporizes the liquid tobacco, and some sort of particles have to be in the air.

01:28:27.000 But it's attached to vapor.

01:28:29.000 It's a different experience than the hot smoke from fire.

01:28:35.000 It's like those cars that burn with hydrogen or something that evaporates in the air?

01:28:39.000 Hydrogen turns into air, yeah, when you burn it.

01:28:43.000 Or does it turn into water?

01:28:46.000 Oxygen or water?

01:28:47.000 Burning hydrogen turn into oxygen or does it turn into water?

01:28:54.000 I'm asking Jamie to Google five things at a time. 0.99

01:28:56.000 We need a goddamn assistant. 1.00

01:28:59.000 But yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:29:00.000 But cigarettes, man, they do give you a weird rush.

01:29:03.000 I don't smoke cigarettes, but I've had hits of people's cigarettes before just to see what it feels like.

01:29:08.000 Like Tony Hinchcliffe gave me a pull off his cigarette the other night, right before I went on stage.

01:29:11.000 It gives you like a rush.

01:29:12.000 It gives you like, your mind fires up.

01:29:16.000 And he's like, dude, be careful.

01:29:18.000 You can get addicted to these things. 1.00

01:29:19.000 I'm like, I am not getting addicted to your fucking cigarette. 1.00

01:29:22.000 Just relax. 1.00

01:29:23.000 I'm just going to take one puff of a cigarette.

01:29:26.000 That's how I feel about stuff.

01:29:28.000 When I told my mom I did acid, and I told people in the South I do acid, they think, you know what happened to your father?

01:29:37.000 Why would you go down the same path?

01:29:39.000 Oh God, they think it's the same path.

01:29:41.000 I'm trying to live.

01:29:42.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:43.000 Trying to see things different.

01:29:44.000 I understand what he went through.

01:29:46.000 But, and also, I came back as Moses also, so that didn't help.

01:29:52.000 Excuse me, what?

01:29:53.000 I came back like...

01:29:54.000 What do you mean you came back?

01:29:55.000 I met God.

01:29:56.000 Oh, after you did that.

01:29:57.000 These are the instructions.

01:30:00.000 Everything's gonna be okay.

01:30:02.000 I seen life, I seen death, I time-traveled.

01:30:06.000 Yeah, that sounds pretty trippy. 0.98

01:30:08.000 They'd be like, God damn it, Byron. 0.99

01:30:10.000 You went nutty. 1.00

01:30:11.000 Hanging around with those white people. 0.99

01:30:13.000 But that adds on to the fact they already think I went nutty for graduating and saying, I'm going to do stand-up. 0.88

01:30:19.000 So they were right.

01:30:20.000 Then it's like it's confirming.

01:30:22.000 What?

01:30:23.000 They're confirming that they were right.

01:30:25.000 Oh, well, yeah, in a sense.

01:30:26.000 They already think. 0.99

01:30:27.000 Yeah, you went nuts. 0.76

01:30:28.000 This guy's already, he's out there, I don't know what he's doing. 0.99

01:30:33.000 Crazy. 0.96

01:30:34.000 He's telling jokes. 0.98

01:30:35.000 He's telling jokes.

01:30:36.000 I got introduced like, yeah, this is my nephew who graduated from college, the one who said he's going to go tell jokes.

01:30:41.000 Like it's a joke?

01:30:42.000 Yeah, I got introduced to that.

01:30:45.000 Tell him how much Kevin Hart makes.

01:30:47.000 I said, tell those people how much Kevin Hart makes.

01:30:50.000 Yeah, this was before Kevin.

01:30:52.000 Tell them how much Jamie Foxx made.

01:30:54.000 Tell them how much, I mean, fill in the blank.

01:30:56.000 Go to Martin Lawrence, work your way up. 0.99

01:30:58.000 A million different fucking comedians. 0.98

01:31:01.000 Graduating from college is a less likely scenario than if you're actually funny, making a lot of money doing stand-up. 0.99

01:31:08.000 Yeah.

01:31:09.000 You know?

01:31:11.000 Now you're at the point where people be like, this is all you do?

01:31:14.000 And I'm like, yeah.

01:31:14.000 And they're like, oh, snap.

01:31:18.000 They realize now that you're doing well.

01:31:19.000 I was in the Dominican Republic.

01:31:20.000 And they was like, what you doing?

01:31:21.000 I was like, I talk to people for a living.

01:31:22.000 And they were like, that's all?

01:31:23.000 I was like, yeah.

01:31:25.000 Well, sort it. 0.99

01:31:26.000 You gotta write some shit down. 0.98

01:31:27.000 You gotta figure out what's funny about what you're about to say. 0.99

01:31:30.000 It's a little more complicated than that, but yeah, at the end of the day.

01:31:33.000 Yeah.

01:31:34.000 That's all it is.

01:31:34.000 I call it communication.

01:31:35.000 That's all.

01:31:36.000 Yeah.

01:31:37.000 You know, at this level, the level I'm at, it's interesting now because I'm in a weird space as far as stand-up.

01:31:44.000 Weird space?

01:31:45.000 To me?

01:31:46.000 How so?

01:31:46.000 Not as far as the show business, should I say.

01:31:49.000 Show business.

01:31:50.000 How so?

01:31:51.000 Because it's a place in show business where art meets the business part.

01:31:58.000 You know what I mean?

01:31:59.000 And that's when it gets interesting.

01:32:03.000 That's when the fight begins.

01:32:04.000 Of like, you know...

01:32:09.000 What platforms can this be allowed on?

01:32:12.000 Or, okay, you're going to put me on a show with five people.

01:32:15.000 I want to do a show with just myself, you know, and those things.

01:32:19.000 Or, you got agents now, and you ask them to book you, and then you don't hear from them for five months.

01:32:24.000 You know, so...

01:32:27.000 That was the weird part of just learning that part of the show business.

01:32:31.000 Navigating the waters of sharks.

01:32:33.000 Yeah.

01:32:33.000 It's funny.

01:32:33.000 Daniel Tosh and I were at the improv.

01:32:35.000 Name drop.

01:32:36.000 Watch me.

01:32:37.000 We were at the improv the other night.

01:32:39.000 And there was this one dude who was a manager.

01:32:42.000 He was kind of a shifty character.

01:32:43.000 And Daniel came over and he was like, that guy gives me the creeps.

01:32:47.000 And I tell him, I go, you know what that guy said to me once?

01:32:49.000 He said to me, you're the one that got away. 0.99

01:32:52.000 And he said, dude, he said the same fucking thing to me. 0.99

01:32:56.000 And then Tosh even tweeted it to me. 0.99

01:33:00.000 With a bunch of S's at the end of it.

01:33:02.000 Yeah.

01:33:05.000 There's gonna be those guys, but if you find someone that's good, you develop a good relationship with a good agent and a good manager, it's like everything else, man.

01:33:13.000 You can come to Hollywood and meet a bunch of crazy actors, or you can meet a bunch of artists. 0.99

01:33:18.000 You can meet a bunch of people that are completely out of their fucking mind, full of shit, doing meth, doing Adderall all day, promising you the world, never delivering shit, or... 1.00

01:33:27.000 You can meet some of the people that you and I know from the Comedy Store. 1.00

01:33:30.000 You're in a family.

01:33:31.000 You're part of the Comedy Store family.

01:33:33.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:33:34.000 You go down there and there's so many of us. 0.99

01:33:36.000 I mean, I hate to keep bringing it up, but it's a goddamn love fest at that place, you know? 0.98

01:33:42.000 It's very interesting. 0.98

01:33:43.000 It's beautiful, right?

01:33:44.000 People are like, oh, that's weird.

01:33:46.000 The energy is bad.

01:33:47.000 Not anymore.

01:33:48.000 I'm like, it's a frat in a way, you know?

01:33:51.000 It's a thing.

01:33:53.000 It's a different place, for sure, than it's ever been before.

01:33:56.000 But there's no bad energy at the Comedy Store. 0.99

01:33:59.000 That's a goddamn hug fest. 0.98

01:34:00.000 Well, I felt a little something when I first went there. 0.99

01:34:04.000 That's probably uncomfortable.

01:34:05.000 You know what brought me to the store, honestly?

01:34:09.000 Because I started in the urban rooms and they didn't want to book me because it was too experimental, my style.

01:34:16.000 So I was like, I'm going to try to get in the comic store.

01:34:19.000 And I was like, I broke into clubs before I know how tough it is or whatever.

01:34:23.000 And they was like, you can't go there.

01:34:25.000 They don't let black comics in. 0.97

01:34:27.000 They racist. 0.97

01:34:28.000 And I was like, they racist?

01:34:29.000 I was like, man, I've been dealing with racism my whole life.

01:34:32.000 That's easy.

01:34:32.000 That's a mental thing.

01:34:34.000 And that's what I did.

01:34:35.000 Did you think the comedy show was racist?

01:34:37.000 That's what I heard.

01:34:38.000 Who said that?

01:34:39.000 Like, a lot of black comics were saying that when I got here. 0.66

01:34:43.000 Well, it's a different, you know, it's a different style, first off, and racism is mental. 0.92

01:34:49.000 Like, you know, to me, Hollywood is racist. 0.76

01:34:52.000 You go in a room and be like, too light, too dark, too tall, too short, too fat. 0.97

01:34:55.000 But then it's sexist, then it's ageist, then it's sizist. 0.99

01:35:01.000 Like, they don't like fat people.

01:35:04.000 There's a lot of things that Hollywood is, but it's because they're trying to fill a part.

01:35:08.000 They have an idea in their head of what it's going to be.

01:35:10.000 And I'm like, if you let that get to you...

01:35:13.000 I went through so much mentally that I was like, that ain't gonna stop.

01:35:16.000 That's nothing.

01:35:17.000 But yeah, but still, if they were racist, they still wouldn't hire you.

01:35:20.000 Like, it's not...

01:35:21.000 What the comedy store is, is they get a lot of pressure to be more, you know, this, more diverse, more...

01:35:29.000 I know, I've seen it, I've talked to them about it.

01:35:31.000 Yeah.

01:35:31.000 But what they try to do is just book the funniest people.

01:35:34.000 That's what they always try to do. 0.98

01:35:35.000 Just before the guy was booking, it was fucking crazy. 0.93

01:35:39.000 But in his idea, he probably thought he was doing the right thing. 0.98

01:35:42.000 He did.

01:35:43.000 That's how I made it through that.

01:35:45.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:45.000 Made it through him?

01:35:46.000 Yeah.

01:35:47.000 You know?

01:35:48.000 So everything else was easy.

01:35:50.000 I sat there and listened to the talks.

01:35:53.000 You could let it affect you, or you could be like... 1.00

01:35:57.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:35:58.000 Well, people don't know that that stopped like, what, like two years ago? 1.00

01:36:02.000 That guy stopped working there?

01:36:03.000 Yeah.

01:36:04.000 And from then on, it's become a completely different environment.

01:36:08.000 It's insane now.

01:36:09.000 It's so much better.

01:36:10.000 And I'm glad I'm a part of it.

01:36:13.000 Like, as far as making the cut because...

01:36:15.000 The talent, as far as what people got going on, I still feel like a regular comic compared to what the people I'm on stage with now.

01:36:23.000 And that says something about me, how I feel confident-wise, but it also let me know, like, you know, I gotta get, you know, whatever else I need to get done, done.

01:36:35.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:36.000 Like, I should be, like, amongst the big boys.

01:36:38.000 I feel like I should be amongst the big boys.

01:36:40.000 A monster big boy?

01:36:42.000 Amongst the big boys.

01:36:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:36:44.000 I get it.

01:36:45.000 Amongst the big boys.

01:36:46.000 Because after a while you do rooms and you're the funniest person in the room and that can make you cocky.

01:36:50.000 Right.

01:36:50.000 But then one night somebody don't show up or somebody don't want to follow Joe Rogan and you have to follow Joe Rogan and then you learn What season is on a different level.

01:37:05.000 And you can't cheat your way of being seasoned in anything.

01:37:09.000 You know?

01:37:10.000 You gotta put your time in.

01:37:11.000 You gotta put your time in.

01:37:12.000 Yeah.

01:37:13.000 Yeah, and that's one of the things the comedy store has always been very good at.

01:37:16.000 Yeah.

01:37:16.000 Giving guys opportunities because of the fact that also there's a bunch of people on it at night.

01:37:21.000 There might be, you know, how many people on an average lineup?

01:37:24.000 It's like 13 or 14 people?

01:37:26.000 12. 12?

01:37:26.000 It's 12?

01:37:27.000 I think.

01:37:27.000 So 12 people doing 15-minute sets and the show goes on all night.

01:37:32.000 So you're gonna get some opportunities if you're a young guy or young girl to go on like right after Chris D'Elia or right after, you know, a Joey Diaz or Ron White.

01:37:43.000 You get a chance to see these people take these tough spots after they just watched.

01:37:47.000 You go on after Ron White, you're going on after someone these people love.

01:37:51.000 They love that guy.

01:37:53.000 They come to see him.

01:37:54.000 They're excited when he's there.

01:37:56.000 They're all googly-eyed.

01:37:58.000 That was their time.

01:38:00.000 If Ron White's at the Comedy Store, there's a good chance that a bunch of people in the audience came there specifically to see him.

01:38:06.000 So if you go on right after him, you have to introduce them to the world of Byron Bowers.

01:38:11.000 It takes a little time.

01:38:12.000 You've got to ease them in.

01:38:14.000 You've got to relax them.

01:38:16.000 Now, Ron's gone.

01:38:18.000 I know he's only here for 15 minutes, but he's gone.

01:38:20.000 And now I'm going to come up.

01:38:21.000 And it's...

01:38:22.000 It's a very very unique environment in that sense because it gives us a chance to also see how other people do that and also see I mean you're gonna get a chance to see 12 different people's styles if you sit there the whole night.

01:38:36.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:38:36.000 It's so much difference in their style and so funny so much I mean big difference between you who's really funny and a guy like Michael Costa who's already really funny or As well.

01:38:48.000 Really funny.

01:38:49.000 But when you look at the two of you guys together, what you both have in common is that you both have this really cool potential.

01:38:57.000 And you might see that ten times that night.

01:39:00.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:39:01.000 And it's weird because Tommy told me this.

01:39:03.000 He was like, look, we started you in the belly.

01:39:05.000 We're going to put you in the late night.

01:39:06.000 He broke the whole thing down for me.

01:39:08.000 He's like, your stuff is regional, right?

01:39:11.000 He's like, I'm going to put you in front of these international people at two o'clock in the morning.

01:39:15.000 And I was like, what?

01:39:16.000 And what happened was I started learning how to communicate what I thought was funny versus tell jokes.

01:39:22.000 And then he said, by the time we put you in the main room with these guys to do theaters, you will learn how to perform in front of a group of people between 200 and 20,000.

01:39:31.000 By the time you master these rooms.

01:39:34.000 So he, and to me, like, regardless, I listen to what people say he told to them, but he didn't have no conversations with me.

01:39:40.000 He just made it, it just prolonged what I thought I was ready for.

01:39:45.000 But by the time I got to the main room, and I'm used to doing these intimate or alty rooms, and I'm performing behind, like, you or Louie, and I'm seeing, like, oh, this is a broader audience, and I gotta perform, I gotta walk the stage, I gotta, I can't do it like I've been doing it.

01:40:01.000 In the OR. I gotta up the ante.

01:40:04.000 It made me grow as a comic.

01:40:07.000 And I tell people now, like, yo, you perform in the main room at midnight, you're gonna be just as strong as somebody who does it at 8 o'clock by the time it's all over.

01:40:17.000 And when you go to another club and you get an 8 o'clock spot, Boom!

01:40:21.000 You're going to kill it. 0.98

01:40:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:40:22.000 It's like running with weights on. 0.99

01:40:23.000 Yeah.

01:40:24.000 For sure.

01:40:25.000 I just taped CISO for this HBO. I was at Just for Laugh and I did that gala show they have there.

01:40:31.000 And we had to do a warm-up show.

01:40:33.000 And my warm-up was so strong, I had to close the taping.

01:40:38.000 You know?

01:40:39.000 I had to close the taping.

01:40:41.000 What do you mean?

01:40:42.000 Because they had me, like, up at a certain time.

01:40:45.000 Oh, you had to close the show.

01:40:46.000 Yeah, I had to close the taping.

01:40:47.000 And I didn't want to close the taping, but in their mind, they was like, no, you strong enough to do this.

01:40:52.000 You know what I mean?

01:40:54.000 And my first time went to Montreal, I went to first doing my audition.

01:40:59.000 Montreal Comedy Festival?

01:41:00.000 Yeah, the first time I did, the callback that got me to Montreal, I went up first, and I didn't want to go up first, but the set was so strong, it affected the next three comedians after me, because people were just staring at them.

01:41:16.000 And when you do content...

01:41:17.000 But did it affect them, or did they just not be that good?

01:41:22.000 That's a lot of what it is, right?

01:41:24.000 It's like if someone sees you kill, one of the big things that happens, and one of the beautiful things about the comedy story, about what you're talking about going on after all these different people that are killing, is you learn how to relax.

01:41:35.000 There's a lot of what happens is when a guy has to go on after someone that's really strong, is that they panic.

01:41:40.000 And when they panic, they can't even be themselves, which is not as funny as that guy.

01:41:45.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:41:45.000 I used to feel that was a big thing that happened to me.

01:41:48.000 I would always go on after, there's a ton of guys that are going after, but one of the ones who I'd always bomb after was Martin Lawrence.

01:41:55.000 He was just too good back then.

01:41:57.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:41:57.000 He was too good and too famous and too popular, and he would do like 45 minutes, and then I would do whatever, like 15 minutes after him.

01:42:04.000 And I always bombed, but I always that was the spot that I got and I realized like a bunch of things I would see hear my own jokes come out and knew they were not good Like I didn't think they were good.

01:42:14.000 Yeah, so I realized like okay.

01:42:16.000 I've got a like change Pretty much everything about my approach.

01:42:21.000 Because what I'm doing is I got comfortable.

01:42:23.000 I found like a little area that I could sort of write and perform in.

01:42:27.000 These are the jokes that I've sort of got and tried to work with.

01:42:30.000 And I didn't try to expand enough.

01:42:32.000 And when you get stuck into a situation where you have to kind of duke it out for survival, it makes you reassess.

01:42:38.000 That's true.

01:42:39.000 Like, why is all this bad?

01:42:40.000 Like, what's going wrong?

01:42:42.000 People don't like doing that.

01:42:43.000 Because everybody wants to think they're a finished product.

01:42:46.000 That's the comfort zone, right?

01:42:48.000 Everybody wants to stay inside their comfort zone.

01:42:50.000 This is it.

01:42:51.000 I'm good.

01:42:51.000 I'm pretty happy with the way things are.

01:42:53.000 Okay.

01:42:54.000 But if you do that, it's going to take too long.

01:42:57.000 If you really want to be like a Martin Lawrence, you're not going to do it by being comfortable.

01:43:02.000 It's just not going to happen.

01:43:03.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:43:05.000 That's why I came up to you that night.

01:43:06.000 I had to follow you and was like, yo...

01:43:08.000 That was some heavy weights right there.

01:43:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:12.000 All for long, just content.

01:43:13.000 Like, yeah, just the content and life experiences.

01:43:17.000 I'm learning like, okay, if I tell these stories about my dad's schizophrenia and stuff, they don't even have to be the funniest.

01:43:25.000 They're just so interesting.

01:43:26.000 They hold weight.

01:43:27.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:43:28.000 That if a funny guy come up and talk about relationships, people still gonna be like, man, that last shit was crazy. 0.81

01:43:35.000 But when I started doing that, people weren't just coming up to me saying, you funny no more. 0.98

01:43:39.000 They were just like, man, I know what that's like because my aunt is paranoid schizophrenic. 0.98

01:43:47.000 And to me, that's the universe saying, aha, now you onto something.

01:43:50.000 But that only comes through failure.

01:43:52.000 To me, like, you improved through failure.

01:43:54.000 Like, the light bulb was invented through failure.

01:43:57.000 You know what I mean?

01:43:57.000 Not through getting it right the first time.

01:43:59.000 It took 10,000 times for that thing to get perfect, you know?

01:44:03.000 Yeah.

01:44:04.000 I think also, I think a big part of what you just said that's important is you were talking about the way it feels when you're listening to it.

01:44:11.000 It's not like...

01:44:12.000 Your standard relationship stuff that it's something that's in some ways more enticing, right?

01:44:19.000 It's an interesting subject.

01:44:20.000 Like, oh, schizophrenia.

01:44:22.000 Hmm.

01:44:23.000 Like, there's something, there's weight to it, right?

01:44:25.000 Yeah.

01:44:26.000 It's honest.

01:44:27.000 It's honest.

01:44:27.000 Like, my Black Lives Matter stuff is honest, and it's not gonna get me liked by people, but it's how I feel.

01:44:37.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:39.000 Even to me, it's a little messed up how I feel about the situation.

01:44:44.000 But it's honest at the moment how I feel about it.

01:44:47.000 How do you feel about it?

01:44:48.000 Can you talk about it?

01:44:49.000 Well, I can, but to me, the worst part of me about the video is that he got shot in front of a Toyota Camry.

01:44:57.000 And I'm like, that's how shallow I am.

01:44:59.000 If it was me, I would have found a Benz or something to crawl near.

01:45:04.000 Just because I know it's going to look good because I'm about to go viral.

01:45:07.000 Right.

01:45:07.000 And I want to look good before I get turned into a hashtag because that's what the police are doing is turning niggas into hashtags.

01:45:14.000 And I turn to somebody that looked white and I'm like, you know the average lifespan for a young black man, 25, but hashtags live forever.

01:45:21.000 So it's the thing about field depth and shallowness and like that's the complexity of like my bits but I have to admit and that's a true how I really felt you know when he hit the car and I was like oh that the car was bouncing I'm like look at the suspension on that.

01:45:36.000 But that's what makes it funny to people.

01:45:38.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:39.000 That's what makes it funny to people.

01:45:40.000 But I have to learn to, you know, as artists, we learn.

01:45:43.000 And you do this, you learn to let go of those things.

01:45:46.000 But the more work I don't get, the more honest I become.

01:45:50.000 Because you stop really trying to fit in.

01:45:52.000 You don't care if they trying to book a nice black guy no more.

01:45:56.000 You get past, you take another jacket off, you take another shirt off until you're just up there with no shirt on.

01:46:01.000 Like, look, I'm in my 30s.

01:46:02.000 I got wrinkles right here now.

01:46:05.000 But I never got laid more in my life.

01:46:07.000 You know?

01:46:08.000 It's just honest, like, ugh.

01:46:11.000 And it's something relieving.

01:46:13.000 It's something whatever.

01:46:14.000 From a kid who was quiet growing up and held everything in, it's such a release into being able to put this stuff out.

01:46:22.000 Yeah, that's probably something a lot of people don't understand, right?

01:46:27.000 Do you feel a lot of people don't understand that?

01:46:29.000 Like, that where you're coming from is not just where you are now, but it's where you started out.

01:46:35.000 Yeah.

01:46:37.000 You're taking particular joy in your freedom.

01:46:40.000 It's particularly unusual, the way you're expressing yourself.

01:46:44.000 Yeah.

01:46:45.000 And it's that vulnerability that people talk about.

01:46:49.000 But as I grow as a person, my comedy has grown.

01:46:54.000 Yeah, it's got to happen.

01:46:55.000 It doesn't happen.

01:46:56.000 I read something the other day on Jen Kirkman, and she was talking about comedy is one of those things you actually do get better at when you get older, and it's one of those things, a rare thing for women, too, that they're still like a 40-year-old woman doesn't have a lot of opportunity as an actress. 0.93

01:47:14.000 You can kind of play some mom roles and stuff like that as far as to lead something.

01:47:19.000 But a 40-year-old comic...

01:47:21.000 Like, a lot of them are just kind of getting started.

01:47:24.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:47:24.000 Like, look at Sarah Silverman.

01:47:25.000 She's better now than ever.

01:47:26.000 Man.

01:47:27.000 And she's like, what is she, like, 46 or something like that?

01:47:29.000 She's fine.

01:47:30.000 Like, everything.

01:47:31.000 Like, attractive.

01:47:33.000 Sexiness with a woman, like, it just grows on them. 1.00

01:47:36.000 It's not the way you look.

01:47:38.000 It's the way you carry yourself and the way you move when you talk.

01:47:41.000 So you're trying to say you're a fan.

01:47:42.000 You're sending out the bat signal?

01:47:44.000 No, I mean, I told her that before, but I'm talking about all women now.

01:47:47.000 You told her that before?

01:47:49.000 Yeah, I told her she was an attractive-looking woman, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:47:52.000 I've been in the green room with her, respected the boundaries, you know what I mean?

01:47:56.000 Not stared at her while she looked down at her notebook and worked on her bits.

01:48:00.000 She's a very nice person, too.

01:48:02.000 Yeah, she's nice. 0.99

01:48:02.000 She's very friendly. 0.99

01:48:03.000 She's nice outside of that. 1.00

01:48:04.000 Don't get all feminist and shit. 1.00

01:48:07.000 For sure. 0.99

01:48:08.000 She's real friendly, too.

01:48:10.000 And by the way, I'm talking about all women with that.

01:48:12.000 Ladies, if you have self-esteem problems, like we all do, and don't think, oh, because your hair doesn't look a certain way, it's all there. 0.99

01:48:20.000 But it kind of comes when you stop giving a fuck. 0.99

01:48:24.000 You mean sexiness? 1.00

01:48:25.000 Yeah.

01:48:27.000 In some ways, yeah, because people that are super nervous about every aspect about them, they're draining.

01:48:34.000 They're exhausting because you know that there's a lot going on there.

01:48:37.000 There's too much chaos.

01:48:38.000 It doesn't allow you to be comfortable. 0.98

01:48:40.000 When someone's comfortable in their own skin and they don't give a fuck, it's like, oh, I kind of like being around you. 0.98

01:48:45.000 You relax me. 0.99

01:48:46.000 You let me know that it's okay to not give a fuck. 0.99

01:48:49.000 That's the benefit of the true not give a fuck people. 0.99

01:48:53.000 True not give a fuck people make you appreciate things better. 0.99

01:48:57.000 Women say I look sexy now, and it's like, what? 0.98

01:49:00.000 Who are they?

01:49:00.000 Why are they lying to you?

01:49:01.000 I don't know why they lying.

01:49:02.000 It's some energy they feel, and I don't believe them, because to me, I'm still that kid.

01:49:06.000 No, look, you're a talented guy.

01:49:08.000 That's what it is.

01:49:09.000 My mom's still that kid with the scar on his face and the crooked teeth, you know? 1.00

01:49:13.000 Well, you're a handsome black gentleman, and you're funny as shit. 0.99

01:49:16.000 Do I smell good, though, Joe? 1.00

01:49:17.000 You smell like roses?

01:49:18.000 Yeah.

01:49:18.000 That's what I hear.

01:49:20.000 But, you know, I mean, talent is a big thing too, right?

01:49:23.000 Yeah.

01:49:23.000 You see a lot of talented people in all sorts of different businesses.

01:49:28.000 Even like businessmen.

01:49:31.000 Like a businessman is, well, she's just after him for his money. 1.00

01:49:34.000 Maybe.

01:49:35.000 You know, maybe that guy has that really beautiful wife because they're just after him for his money. 1.00

01:49:42.000 Or maybe they're attracted to his talent for being successful.

01:49:47.000 Right.

01:49:47.000 There's a little bit of that, too.

01:49:49.000 It's not just the money.

01:49:51.000 I don't think women would be as attracted to a guy who just won the lottery and got $500 million as they would to some guy who's some media mogul who started his own business, built it up into an empire, and now has $500 million.

01:50:07.000 That's true.

01:50:08.000 Those guys are different.

01:50:09.000 They have that wizard air about them.

01:50:13.000 Like Elon Musk. 1.00

01:50:15.000 Do you know how much pussy Elon Musk must have to beat away from him? 1.00

01:50:20.000 How many girls are just... 1.00

01:50:25.000 Bombing on him.

01:50:26.000 Just constantly.

01:50:27.000 Because he's a super genius multi-billionaire with several successful businesses. 0.99

01:50:33.000 He invented fucking PayPal. 0.98

01:50:35.000 He's built his own cars that run on electricity. 1.00

01:50:39.000 He's making a fucking rocket ship to go to the moon. 0.95

01:50:42.000 He's making a Hyperloop that's going to go to San Francisco in 30 seconds. 1.00

01:50:47.000 Or whatever the fuck it is. 0.98

01:50:48.000 And I'm still questioning. 0.99

01:50:48.000 I looked at his stock today. 0.99

01:50:50.000 I still question, should I get it?

01:50:52.000 But a part of me is like, this is going to be like the neck of General Electric.

01:50:55.000 That's what I'm telling people in my mind.

01:50:56.000 The thing he's going to do with energy, you know?

01:51:00.000 He's doing that with everything.

01:51:01.000 He's a super winner.

01:51:03.000 There's certain guys that are just super winners.

01:51:05.000 And he seems to come without any of the baggage that most super winners come with.

01:51:11.000 You know, there's a lot of baggage that most of these, like, crazy entrepreneur-type characters, they're also geniuses, come with.

01:51:20.000 He doesn't seem to... 0.98

01:51:20.000 He's, like, remarkably stable for someone who's that fucking smart and successful. 0.98

01:51:25.000 He's like a goddamn alien, that guy. 0.99

01:51:27.000 It's weird, because I hear chicks talk about the Silicon Valley guys who made money now. 1.00

01:51:31.000 And it's like...

01:51:34.000 They said, yeah, they're nerds, but now they got money and power. 0.98

01:51:37.000 So they act like that.

01:51:38.000 When you see them out, they're 10 women, you know what I mean? 0.99

01:51:41.000 Kissing all on their neck and acting like the guys who used to beat them up, the jocks, you know what I mean?

01:51:46.000 They get bullied.

01:51:47.000 But if you look at the Warren Buffetts and the Bill Gates and the guys who were just like, yeah, this is my lady right here.

01:51:54.000 Spent all my other time working on algorithms.

01:51:56.000 But it's a new day now, you know? 1.00

01:51:59.000 Warren Buffett still lives in the same fucking house in Omaha. 0.99

01:52:01.000 Yeah, me and Hannibal was in that neighborhood. 0.99

01:52:04.000 Did you see his house?

01:52:05.000 Nope, but we Airbnb'd a property and they stared at us.

01:52:12.000 When you Airbnb a property in that community and you have to have a cookout at 5 o'clock in the morning, you're going to get some stares the next day.

01:52:21.000 You had a cookout at 5 o'clock in the morning?

01:52:22.000 Yeah, a show after party and then...

01:52:24.000 Was it like, were you making a lot of noise or something?

01:52:27.000 I don't think so.

01:52:27.000 Just the average noise that, you know, people make after they leave the club.

01:52:32.000 That's pretty loud.

01:52:34.000 You know, stumbling around.

01:52:35.000 Five o'clock in the morning? 1.00

01:52:36.000 That shit would be annoying as fuck if you lived next door to that house and, you know, you're trying to get some sleep. 1.00

01:52:41.000 I think so, probably. 1.00

01:52:43.000 I mean, the house across the street had three Volvos in the driveway.

01:52:46.000 I was like, oh, that's a lot of safety.

01:52:48.000 Yeah, that's a lot of white people.

01:52:50.000 They must be furious at you for waking them up.

01:52:53.000 I don't know if we woke them up, but the grill was outside.

01:52:56.000 So they could smell it.

01:52:57.000 Yeah.

01:52:57.000 They had Chilean baths, and we came with an appetite.

01:53:02.000 But don't you think that that was probably pretty loud?

01:53:05.000 Like, how loud were you guys?

01:53:06.000 I don't think it was that loud, but I fell asleep.

01:53:08.000 Oh.

01:53:10.000 But we did turn people away, though.

01:53:13.000 How many people are there?

01:53:14.000 I don't think it'll probably be like five or seven.

01:53:16.000 More came, but...

01:53:18.000 That's chaos.

01:53:18.000 Five or seven people that are awake at five o'clock in the morning?

01:53:22.000 Those people are probably lit up, loud as fuck, barbecuing. 0.99

01:53:27.000 Doesn't bother you? 1.00

01:53:28.000 I slept well.

01:53:29.000 It don't bother me, but at the same time, I don't...

01:53:31.000 If I look at it from my neighborhood, my Latin neighborhood that I live in, and they bring that bouncy castle over and they play the mariachi at five o'clock in the morning...

01:53:40.000 Which happens.

01:53:41.000 Does it?

01:53:41.000 I'll be like, oh, okay.

01:53:42.000 I get it.

01:53:43.000 I get it.

01:53:44.000 I don't hate on them, though.

01:53:46.000 Right, but that's the neighborhood that you chose to live in.

01:53:49.000 Yeah.

01:53:50.000 Right?

01:53:50.000 That's what they do.

01:53:51.000 Like, you're saying you live in a Mexican neighborhood?

01:53:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:53:53.000 Mexican people have some fucking parties. 1.00

01:53:55.000 They got roosters in my neighborhood. 1.00

01:53:56.000 You just got a deal.

01:53:56.000 They go off at 5 a.m., 3 a.m.

01:54:00.000 in the morning.

01:54:00.000 Dude, my gardener had the son of one of my dogs.

01:54:03.000 My gardener's a friend of mine.

01:54:05.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:54:05.000 And he's cool as fuck. 0.98

01:54:07.000 Doesn't speak very much English, but he's cool as fuck. 1.00

01:54:10.000 He's got like a hundred fucking roosters. 1.00

01:54:13.000 A hundred of them. 1.00

01:54:14.000 Yeah.

01:54:14.000 In his yard.

01:54:15.000 His yard is like a chicken fighting ring.

01:54:19.000 Chicken fighting is different, man.

01:54:21.000 It's funny.

01:54:22.000 Like, you tell people that you know somebody that fights dogs.

01:54:25.000 Yeah. 0.80

01:54:25.000 And they look at you like, what a monster. 0.80

01:54:28.000 What a horrible person.

01:54:29.000 Because dogs are really complex and... 1.00

01:54:31.000 They love you, and they give you unconditional love, and for you to violate that and making them fight each other is fucked up. 0.99

01:54:37.000 I get it. 0.99

01:54:38.000 I agree with it 100%.

01:54:39.000 I'm not saying that.

01:54:40.000 But you tell people that you know somebody who fights chickens, and they go, really?

01:54:44.000 Like, they don't even get grossed out. 0.98

01:54:46.000 I mean, there's some super vegans who probably get really pissed off or animal rights activists, but the average person doesn't give a fuck about a chicken. 0.99

01:54:53.000 If those chickens are fucking each other up with spurs on, they put razor blades on their back feet. 0.99

01:54:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:54:58.000 And they cut each other up. 1.00

01:55:00.000 I noticed that.

01:55:01.000 I saw a tape before Vic went down of a recruitment training tape.

01:55:06.000 And that was my first time seeing the animals electrocuted and how they breed them and stuff like that.

01:55:14.000 This was a real tape that was going around the hood because people was fighting these animals.

01:55:20.000 Yeah.

01:55:21.000 I know people that executed dogs that I'm closely friends with, you know what I mean?

01:55:26.000 And it's very, you know, interesting situation.

01:55:31.000 But once again, you talking about people who was like, oh, we was treated worse than that, you know?

01:55:36.000 Right.

01:55:36.000 It's still that innately that's in you, but it's shocking when people come out against dogs like that.

01:55:43.000 And that's why you have certain communities like, oh, what?

01:55:47.000 We get shot by the cops or, you know, and all this other stuff.

01:55:50.000 Well, there's certain communities where dogfighting is super normal, too.

01:55:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:55:55.000 Like, it's normal.

01:55:56.000 But I don't mean normal in that it's, like, less offensive than how the adult human beings are treated in that neighborhood.

01:56:03.000 I mean, it's a part of the culture.

01:56:05.000 Yeah, that's what I mean.

01:56:06.000 Yeah.

01:56:07.000 In the South, right?

01:56:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:56:09.000 I know a dude who had like 30 dogs.

01:56:12.000 He used to keep 30 dogs in his yard.

01:56:13.000 He's a professional pool player.

01:56:15.000 He had a big-ass yard down in...

01:56:17.000 I think he was in Kentucky.

01:56:19.000 And he...

01:56:21.000 That was part of what he gambled on.

01:56:23.000 He had dogs that they would train and they would fight him.

01:56:27.000 You know, and... 0.98

01:56:30.000 The person that I am right now looks at that and goes, well, that's a fucking terrible thing to do. 0.91

01:56:35.000 Why would you do that? 0.96

01:56:36.000 That should be absolutely illegal.

01:56:38.000 But him, whatever his life was like, him growing up in wherever he grew up, that was a normal thing.

01:56:47.000 So I absolutely judge them.

01:56:50.000 I absolutely judge anybody that does that.

01:56:52.000 But it's weird.

01:56:53.000 But I understand.

01:56:54.000 Yeah, it's weird.

01:56:55.000 And to me, I think understanding comes from me personally.

01:57:00.000 If we could really assess ourselves and look at our demons and accept our demons, Right? 0.94

01:57:06.000 For how bad, like, that we could possibly do some real fucked up things. 0.95

01:57:10.000 Right. 0.82

01:57:11.000 Then it would make us judge each other less, and then a conversation could be had to try to understand.

01:57:17.000 But, yeah, it's certain things that you see, that you accept, depending on where you are.

01:57:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:24.000 Yeah, and well in a lot of ways then what you're saying is like those those principles of life and those things that you're talking about like these different patterns that you see in Electronics or in the universe you kind of see that in life You see that in comedy too, right?

01:57:39.000 Like exactly what you were talking about in comedy like having go through Things, making mistakes, making things like really obvious and then realizing, whoa, I got to look at this for what it really is.

01:57:49.000 Versus people who look at things through a distorted perception.

01:57:54.000 Like most of the people that you know that have distorted perceptions of their own abilities or distorted perceptions of their own life or where they fit in in the world, those are the people that don't progress because they're not looking at themselves.

01:58:05.000 They're not taking these assessments of themselves accurately, so they're not moving forward.

01:58:12.000 They stay where they're at because they think that where they're at with whatever they're trying to do is good enough or is perfect or is better than it really is.

01:58:21.000 That's true.

01:58:22.000 But, yeah, and what I learned from my last, my acid trip, that the one you saw me the day after is that, in art and our genes, because I saw idea or I saw conception, what I told you,

01:58:38.000 it moves everything forward.

01:58:42.000 Like, art moves everything forward.

01:58:44.000 You have a child or you have an idea that moves the culture or the human species and everything continues to evolve and move forward.

01:58:56.000 Without those things, we continue to make the same mistakes or we're stuck with certain things.

01:59:04.000 Yeah, we're fueled by these things that we create.

01:59:08.000 Whether they're innovation, or whether they're a piece of art, a movie, you know?

01:59:13.000 We're fueled by these things.

01:59:14.000 And sometimes in a negative way.

01:59:16.000 I mean, how many people have you met that act like a movie?

01:59:20.000 Like they think, they say things like they're in a movie.

01:59:23.000 Oh yeah, a bunch of people.

01:59:24.000 I know a dude who got into a fight with another dude, and as they were scrapping, like as they're about to fight, he goes, tonight we dine in hell.

01:59:34.000 He yelled that out at him. 0.98

01:59:36.000 And the dude told me, I'm like, are you fucking serious? 0.97

01:59:38.000 He's like, yeah. 0.96

01:59:39.000 He really said that to me.

01:59:40.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:59:41.000 And the guy was like, what? 0.99

01:59:42.000 Did you fucking say tonight we died in hell? 0.99

01:59:44.000 And so they get in a fight and the guy who didn't say that turned out to be a really good wrestler. 0.99

01:59:50.000 So the whole thing was a disaster for the other guy.

01:59:52.000 Well, that guy did dine in hell.

01:59:54.000 The guy who said that dined in hell that night. 1.00

01:59:56.000 Well, he thought he was in a fucking movie or something. 0.99

02:00:00.000 I mean, he was drunk, too. 0.99

02:00:02.000 There's a lot going on, right?

02:00:03.000 Oh, that's amazing.

02:00:03.000 But it's just that movies create these scenarios in people's minds that they almost want to reinvent in the real world if a similar situation presents itself, you know?

02:00:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:00:15.000 You really think you could say something that fucking stupid? 1.00

02:00:19.000 I mean, I've said some things before that sound poetic. 1.00

02:00:22.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:23.000 And, you know, especially The Throes of Passion, you know?

02:00:26.000 The Throes of Passion by Byron Bowers.

02:00:28.000 Oh, that even sounds poetic, you know what I mean?

02:00:31.000 That should be the title of your first Netflix special, The Throes of Passion by Byron Bowers.

02:00:37.000 And you just sitting there with your legs crossed with like some nice slippers on in front of a fire.

02:00:43.000 That's what I call it now.

02:00:44.000 I'm reading a book.

02:00:45.000 That's what I call it now. 0.98

02:00:46.000 I don't even say fucking no more. 0.96

02:00:48.000 I call it because I feel I do something a little more... 0.97

02:00:51.000 A little more creative?

02:00:52.000 A little more different.

02:00:53.000 I don't call it creative.

02:00:54.000 There's a lot more involved.

02:00:55.000 Yeah, there's a little more passion involved.

02:00:58.000 So you're trying to separate yourself? 0.99

02:00:59.000 Like you're branding your style of fucking? 0.99

02:01:01.000 I wouldn't do that. 0.99

02:01:03.000 That'll be interesting. 0.99

02:01:04.000 That's a lot of fucking right there. 0.98

02:01:06.000 Well, you think about how many different kinds of music there is. 1.00

02:01:08.000 There's only one kind of fucking. 0.98

02:01:11.000 Music is a style of expressing what's going on inside your mind, your imagination. 0.99

02:01:16.000 So is fucking in a lot of ways. 0.99

02:01:18.000 We should have different classifications for fucking. 1.00

02:01:21.000 I mean, we kind of do. 1.00

02:01:22.000 We have basic bitch-fucking, which is like missionary, little kisses. 1.00

02:01:27.000 Gorilla-fucking. 1.00

02:01:28.000 Yeah, that's very important. 0.99

02:01:30.000 You need a couch, you gotta stuff them in the corner of the couch. 0.98

02:01:33.000 That's what gorilla-fucking is about. 1.00

02:01:34.000 You gotta grab ahold of things. 0.98

02:01:36.000 You gotta be able to get some traction.

02:01:37.000 You might want to keep your shoes on.

02:01:39.000 You need some traction.

02:01:40.000 I got this Nike rope that's leather.

02:01:42.000 Well, these shoes are weird.

02:01:44.000 And I... I pulled it out on this young lady and I put it around her neck like you would a puppy, like a leash.

02:01:54.000 And she was like, what are you doing?

02:01:56.000 And I was like...

02:01:56.000 That's the exact right thing to ask.

02:01:58.000 And I was like, I'll show you.

02:02:02.000 Get up and try to move when she got to try to move.

02:02:04.000 I yanked it like that.

02:02:06.000 But yeah, she liked it, and it turned her on.

02:02:09.000 And then to the fact where she wanted it around her neck, and I put it around her neck, and the more I, you know, pulled...

02:02:15.000 It's a white girl, right? 0.78

02:02:16.000 I don't know what to say, but...

02:02:18.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:02:19.000 Yeah, gotta be, you know what I mean?

02:02:19.000 Yeah, definitely.

02:02:22.000 Jewish, probably, you know what I mean?

02:02:24.000 So...

02:02:26.000 Super liberal.

02:02:27.000 Jews and blacks.

02:02:29.000 As I'm pulling it, she got more turned on. 0.84

02:02:32.000 Whoa.

02:02:32.000 And then she died.

02:02:33.000 So she started licking my thing. 1.00

02:02:34.000 And I got to a point. 0.85

02:02:35.000 Because I'm a skinny dude. 0.87

02:02:36.000 She started licking your arm. 0.98

02:02:37.000 I'm a skinny dude.

02:02:38.000 So my wrist was shaking like this.

02:02:41.000 And in my mind, I was like, this ain't me.

02:02:45.000 You know.

02:02:46.000 And then I just let the ropes go.

02:02:48.000 You followed your instincts.

02:02:49.000 Your instincts were to not kill her.

02:02:51.000 That's good.

02:02:52.000 Oh, she wasn't going to die.

02:02:53.000 I don't think I'm that strong. 1.00

02:02:54.000 I think you could definitely kill someone with a belt around their neck. 0.99

02:02:57.000 No, it's a leather rope. 0.99

02:02:59.000 Well, it's kind of like the same thing, isn't it?

02:03:01.000 Leather rope, a belt.

02:03:02.000 What kind of leather?

02:03:04.000 Very good.

02:03:05.000 Very good leather, you know what I mean?

02:03:08.000 Very good leather. 0.99

02:03:09.000 It seems like you could definitely kill somebody with a rope around their neck. 0.99

02:03:11.000 It would hurt if you hit them with the leather, you know. 1.00

02:03:14.000 But then you can kill them. 1.00

02:03:15.000 If you could, like, pull hard enough, you could kill somebody with any kind of, like, thin wire. 1.00

02:03:21.000 I think I could probably kill someone with a bootlace. 0.98

02:03:23.000 That's probably true. 1.00

02:03:25.000 I'm pretty sure I could.

02:03:26.000 That's probably true.

02:03:27.000 Be careful out there, people.

02:03:28.000 If I got a good grip on it?

02:03:31.000 Yeah.

02:03:32.000 It's not hard.

02:03:34.000 The human neck is real vulnerable.

02:03:36.000 You know, the weird part about that is having a condom on, you know, and then doing it at the same time.

02:03:41.000 That's hilarious.

02:03:42.000 Yeah.

02:03:42.000 Like, what part of this is safe?

02:03:48.000 That's hilarious.

02:03:49.000 She's got ligature marks on her neck. 1.00

02:03:51.000 Yeah. 0.98

02:03:52.000 Butt. 0.99

02:03:52.000 STD. She didn't get AIDS, but she still died. 0.99

02:03:55.000 STD free. 1.00

02:03:57.000 Yeah, rough sex is fucking strange, man. 0.99

02:04:01.000 You gotta be real careful with that. 1.00

02:04:02.000 Because if you do weird shit and beat each other up and the girl goes to the cops, you're fucked. 1.00

02:04:07.000 Yeah, especially not the same race. 1.00

02:04:09.000 And that's when black people be like, I told you! 1.00

02:04:12.000 I told you! 0.95

02:04:14.000 I was reading about this thing in Toronto.

02:04:17.000 There was this judge in Toronto that sentenced this man.

02:04:22.000 He was convicted of rape. 0.74

02:04:25.000 And he had consensual sex, in his opinion, with this woman. 0.99

02:04:31.000 And this woman had sent him these text messages saying, you know, come on over, let's have some savage sex and this and that. 1.00

02:04:38.000 And then afterwards, when he broke up with her, she decided, or after they had a bunch of these experiences, I forget how it works.

02:04:44.000 Yeah.

02:04:45.000 Either way, she lied to the judge and to the court about sending those texts, because she had deleted them, but then they somehow or another recovered them, and they found out that she lied about that.

02:04:56.000 And she lied about a few other things, too.

02:04:59.000 But the judge started quoting all this feminist theory and quoting different feminist writers and wound up getting this guy convicted, which is beyond a reasonable doubt.

02:05:10.000 Like, as soon as someone says, I did not send him a text asking him for sex...

02:05:16.000 And then you find out they did in fact send that text asking them for sex and it deleted.

02:05:20.000 Well then you've got reasonable doubt.

02:05:22.000 Like instantaneously you have doubt because you have to go, okay, what about the rest of this stuff you're telling me isn't true? 0.98

02:05:28.000 I'm not saying that he didn't force her to give him a blow job or that he did. 0.97

02:05:32.000 I don't know. 0.95

02:05:33.000 I wasn't there.

02:05:34.000 The judge doesn't know either.

02:05:36.000 But in my opinion, you instantaneously have to have reasonable doubt when you find out that someone's willing to lie about certain aspects of what happened.

02:05:46.000 So, I was watching this and I was listening to this woman from, what is that?

02:05:52.000 What's that conservative website?

02:05:54.000 The Blaze or something like that?

02:05:56.000 Is that what it is?

02:05:57.000 That Glenn Beck thing?

02:05:58.000 Is that it?

02:05:59.000 Is that The Blaze?

02:06:00.000 She did this breakdown of it and I was like, God.

02:06:04.000 It's so dangerous when you get involved with crazy people. 1.00

02:06:07.000 You're sticking your dick in crazy people. 1.00

02:06:09.000 You don't really know what's going to happen. 1.00

02:06:13.000 You're there choking that girl with a rope and she's licking your arm like, where's this going to escalate to?

02:06:19.000 Oh, easy.

02:06:21.000 A Volvo and a house of the kids.

02:06:23.000 You know what I mean?

02:06:25.000 It's the only place to go.

02:06:27.000 Or she doesn't know that you've been snipped And you don't tell her that you can't get her pregnant, so you keep pumping lows into her, and you gotta keep ramping up the sex. 0.99

02:06:40.000 And so now she's wearing a helmet, and you're fucking driving her through a wall. 0.99

02:06:43.000 Oh, that'll be interesting right there. 0.99

02:06:46.000 But you're doing that to make her happy, but you really don't like it at all?

02:06:49.000 Yeah, both of you are confused.

02:06:51.000 She thinks it makes you happy, but you think it makes her happy, and you're just giving her CTE and throwing her head through wall board. 0.99

02:06:59.000 I mean, someone has for sure put a helmet on, and someone fucked them from behind and slammed their head through a wall. 0.99

02:07:05.000 That's 100%, right? 0.99

02:07:07.000 That's definitely happened.

02:07:08.000 I think so.

02:07:09.000 What are you looking up, Jamie?

02:07:10.000 I was looking up this case, but I stumbled across something I haven't seen before.

02:07:13.000 Did you know Canadian lawyers have to wear an outfit like this?

02:07:16.000 Thank God.

02:07:17.000 Wow. 1.00

02:07:17.000 So you know they're ridiculous. 1.00

02:07:18.000 I looked up Canadian lawyers and they're all wearing it. 0.99

02:07:20.000 Good Lord.

02:07:21.000 All the lawyers have to dress like that? 1.00

02:07:23.000 That's hilarious.

02:07:25.000 Oh my goodness. 1.00

02:07:26.000 Look at this fucking outfit they have on. 1.00

02:07:28.000 They might as well be working at one of those reenactment restaurants, like Medieval Times. 1.00

02:07:34.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

02:07:35.000 That's hilarious. 1.00

02:07:36.000 That's why none of them are smart.

02:07:38.000 They got wigs, too? 1.00

02:07:38.000 Shit. 1.00

02:07:39.000 They are barristers. 1.00

02:07:42.000 Male barristers.

02:07:44.000 Make more than double.

02:07:45.000 They're female. 1.00

02:07:47.000 What does it say there?

02:07:48.000 It's dot dot dot.

02:07:50.000 What does it say?

02:07:50.000 Do the female have to wear wigs too?

02:07:53.000 That's a very good question.

02:07:55.000 That's a very good question. 0.99

02:07:56.000 That would be bullshit. 0.99

02:07:58.000 Oh, they're female colleagues. 1.00

02:07:59.000 Male barristers with their ridiculous wigs. 1.00

02:08:03.000 That is goddamn hilarious. 1.00

02:08:08.000 That's in Australia, though, that you just pulled up. 0.96

02:08:14.000 Still, there's parts of the world that makes you wonder, like, what would happen if the United States hadn't been formed?

02:08:19.000 There's parts of the world that are still wearing wigs when they're doing their law stuff. 1.00

02:08:25.000 Ooh, she's hot as fuck. 1.00

02:08:27.000 Classic portrait of a woman in Canadian law. 1.00

02:08:31.000 She don't have to wear a wig, but the outfit looks better on her.

02:08:34.000 You want her to visit you in jail? 1.00

02:08:36.000 No.

02:08:36.000 She tells you I'm sorry.

02:08:37.000 I didn't mean to convict you and I'm gonna work to get you out.

02:08:41.000 She don't have no oatmeal. 1.00

02:08:42.000 She better not, she better come in a different outfit. 1.00

02:08:44.000 In jail you have to bring in oatmeal?

02:08:46.000 Yes, I mean she look like she would carry some Quaker steak.

02:08:49.000 What's it called?

02:08:50.000 Wait, Quaker steak is old.

02:08:51.000 Quaker steak.

02:08:52.000 Quaker oats.

02:08:53.000 Quaker oats.

02:08:54.000 Yeah.

02:08:55.000 Yeah, there's like some, that's a funny one, right? 0.96

02:08:58.000 Like what the fuck does pilgrims have to do with oats? 0.94

02:09:00.000 Did they grow the oats? 0.99

02:09:01.000 Is that what the deal is?

02:09:03.000 He's a Quaker. 0.98

02:09:04.000 He's not a pilgrim, right? 0.96

02:09:05.000 He's a Quaker. 0.98

02:09:06.000 Quaker Oats.

02:09:07.000 That's like saying, I'm gonna buy Mormon granola. 1.00

02:09:12.000 Right?

02:09:13.000 Imagine how many people would buy Scientology flakes.

02:09:17.000 Oh, that'll be dope.

02:09:18.000 Right?

02:09:18.000 I mean, that's exactly what it is.

02:09:20.000 They're clear!

02:09:21.000 How about Catholic Crisp? 0.93

02:09:22.000 That's my morning cereal.

02:09:24.000 I enjoy Catholic Crisp. 0.73

02:09:25.000 Everybody eat out the same bowl?

02:09:27.000 Yeah, how can...

02:09:28.000 What is Quaker Oats?

02:09:29.000 It's religious cereal?

02:09:31.000 What? 0.99

02:09:32.000 What the fuck does a Quaker have to do with anything? 0.99

02:09:34.000 They didn't give a fuck about Quakers. 1.00

02:09:36.000 Quakers were so innocuous that they were willing to use them as props, like the way they sell Klondike bars with polar bears. 0.98

02:09:43.000 They used a Quaker just as a prop. 0.98

02:09:45.000 Wow, that was the first...

02:09:46.000 That was the first...

02:09:48.000 Right?

02:09:49.000 That's hilarious.

02:09:50.000 Don't you think that's what they did?

02:09:52.000 That do make sense.

02:09:53.000 Totally. 0.99

02:09:54.000 I bet Quakers have fucking zero interest in Quaker Oats. 0.99

02:09:57.000 I bet they don't get paid. 1.00

02:09:58.000 I bet they get fucked over on the commissions. 0.99

02:10:00.000 I bet the Quaker Oats company keeps all the money. 0.99

02:10:03.000 Pepsi owns it now.

02:10:04.000 There you go.

02:10:05.000 Wow. 1.00

02:10:05.000 Those Quakers are out there going, what the fuck?! 1.00

02:10:08.000 This is ours! 1.00

02:10:09.000 This is our shit! 1.00

02:10:10.000 This is our outfit! 1.00

02:10:11.000 But you look at that outfit and you go, that's some wholesome oats. 0.92

02:10:14.000 I bet that oats doesn't even swear.

02:10:17.000 That oats doesn't drink.

02:10:18.000 That oats makes its own butter. 0.98

02:10:20.000 That oats lives in a nice nostalgic way in a field and they plow with a fucking like a regular mechanical plow and they do everything old school. 0.98

02:10:31.000 Wow. 0.98

02:10:33.000 My grandmother was telling about the cotton gin last time I went to sleep.

02:10:37.000 She's like 90, she's on her way out.

02:10:38.000 You were telling me about this.

02:10:39.000 We were in the back of the comedy store.

02:10:41.000 Yeah, it was interesting.

02:10:42.000 So she wasn't alive when the cotton gin was created, right?

02:10:45.000 Her mother was alive.

02:10:45.000 These are the stories she heard.

02:10:46.000 My grandmother was alive.

02:10:47.000 I was like, what drugs did y'all do when you were young?

02:10:50.000 And she said, aspirin just came out.

02:10:53.000 Jesus.

02:10:54.000 So that was the thing, you know what I mean?

02:10:57.000 You mean people took Aspen for recreation?

02:10:59.000 No, she was just like, that was just the thing outside of like, you know, homegrown, because they was farmers. 0.99

02:11:05.000 My grandmother was like, remind me of The Help, the movie The Help, you know?

02:11:10.000 The Hills?

02:11:11.000 The Help.

02:11:11.000 The Help?

02:11:12.000 Yeah.

02:11:12.000 I don't know that movie.

02:11:13.000 It's like, it's about that black lady who raised a white family type thing. 0.85

02:11:18.000 What movie is that?

02:11:19.000 The Help.

02:11:19.000 Is that a recent movie?

02:11:20.000 Yeah.

02:11:21.000 Really?

02:11:23.000 Who was in it?

02:11:25.000 Who was in it?

02:11:27.000 Whoopi Goldberg.

02:11:28.000 White family raised by Whoopi Goldberg.

02:11:29.000 Hilarity ensues.

02:11:30.000 Emma Stone was in it.

02:11:32.000 Here's a picture. 1.00

02:11:36.000 What fucking movie is this? 1.00

02:11:38.000 The hell? 1.00

02:11:39.000 I have no idea what this movie is.

02:11:41.000 So my grandmother...

02:11:42.000 So those two black women raised those two white women? 1.00

02:11:45.000 No.

02:11:45.000 Well, in a sense, in, like, the relationship that happened.

02:11:48.000 Like, I went to one of my grandmother's birthday parties.

02:11:51.000 I think she was, like, 80, and there was a white family there.

02:11:53.000 And I was like, who are these people?

02:11:55.000 And my family was like, shh, that's the family that your grandmother helped use the nanny for. 0.61

02:12:00.000 And they remained close because of, you know, she helped raise these young ladies, you know what I mean?

02:12:08.000 And they would fly my mom, my grandmother, out to Philly to spend time with them and stuff like that.

02:12:14.000 And it's an interesting, you know, situation.

02:12:17.000 So, just to hear these stories and, you know, my grandmother telling me about the cotton gin and She broke it down like, yeah, we'll take the cotton and take the seeds out and let it go.

02:12:32.000 And people were amazed by this.

02:12:34.000 They just watching it like, oh, like, that was the thing that people looked at, like, how people look at computers.

02:12:41.000 Like, oh, man, what are we going to do now?

02:12:43.000 Like the Napster revelation.

02:12:45.000 Yeah, like, what are we going to do for work?

02:12:46.000 Like, this thing is here to put us out of work.

02:12:48.000 Yeah.

02:12:49.000 How people do a day's work and gotta, like she said once slavery ended and people had to get paid, how somebody, I don't know if it was her father, somebody did a job and they gave him a dime.

02:13:02.000 Wow.

02:13:04.000 So now you're not getting lodging or food or nothing like that.

02:13:07.000 You gotta earn a wage and you get like a dime for doing like some heavy, you know, things.

02:13:15.000 This is blowing my mind amongst everything else that's going on, you know, in the world.

02:13:22.000 You know what's crazy?

02:13:23.000 That person living that life and making a dime and living in a modern, a semi-modern to us, you know, modern in its context, society, is doing so much better than someone who was born 200 years before that.

02:13:37.000 And so much better than someone, you know, any time prior to that.

02:13:41.000 So check this out.

02:13:42.000 My grandmother's 90. So the women on her side of the family are longer. 1.00

02:13:47.000 My grandmother's mother died at 107. So between them two, you got over, you know, you got like over 200 years.

02:13:55.000 That's incredible.

02:13:58.000 So, it's just an interesting time frame. 0.99

02:14:01.000 You know, when we look back at people that lived, like, a couple hundred years ago, we think to ourselves, like, fuck that. 0.86

02:14:07.000 You know, especially if you were a slave, or even if you were a free person living in America in 1810. Let's just go to 1810. Just a regular person. 0.97

02:14:20.000 Like, you and I don't want to do that. 1.00

02:14:22.000 You don't want to go back to that fucking life. 0.99

02:14:24.000 Like, good lord. 1.00

02:14:25.000 Good luck getting fresh milk.

02:14:27.000 Good luck finding vegetables in most cities.

02:14:31.000 Good luck getting everything delivered to you.

02:14:33.000 They don't even have cars yet, man.

02:14:35.000 Well, this is a good thing.

02:14:36.000 Since I was born in Athens, my first six years, and Athens is a small town where UGA is.

02:14:42.000 You've been to Athens before.

02:14:44.000 So everything I ate vegetable-wise was grown.

02:14:48.000 In that area?

02:14:49.000 In the yard, in the backyard.

02:14:51.000 That's amazing.

02:14:52.000 The grapes were on the vine, the tomatoes came out the ground, the chickens, you know, my grandfather hauled chickens, so the eggs came out of the backyard.

02:15:01.000 The hunting dogs, he shot deer.

02:15:04.000 We would fish on Saturdays, cut the fish heads off, get the skin off, and then fry them in the yard.

02:15:11.000 He took the grapes from the vines and made wine.

02:15:16.000 And if he caught an abundance of fish, he would keep enough for the family.

02:15:19.000 And all the neighbors traded food.

02:15:22.000 So my first six years is like, you know, when you're eight or ten, they put a pellet gun in your hand and you work your way up to the hunting rifles.

02:15:29.000 So that's what I left when I moved to the city.

02:15:33.000 That's it.

02:15:33.000 So I was a country, so vegetables and everything tasted good.

02:15:37.000 You know, you would get the corn off the stalk, and corn wasn't yellow.

02:15:42.000 It was like a lighter color.

02:15:44.000 It was like a whitish color.

02:15:45.000 She'd make creamed corn from scratch. 0.93

02:15:49.000 The preserves, your jelly was made.

02:15:54.000 The rabbits, the squirrel, the pecans fell out of the tree.

02:15:58.000 You're hungry, you just go outside any time and grab food.

02:16:01.000 You grab two peanuts, squeeze them with your hand, and you got a snack, you know?

02:16:06.000 And that was the first, like, six years.

02:16:10.000 Like, food was there.

02:16:11.000 Wow.

02:16:12.000 Beans, you put them, you get a bucket, you open them, you run your thumb through them, which I didn't like none of that, but that's what it was.

02:16:22.000 Well, there's something beautiful about that, right?

02:16:24.000 For sure.

02:16:25.000 At this point, yeah.

02:16:26.000 At this point, because they're overcharging for that stuff now.

02:16:29.000 But farming is not easy.

02:16:31.000 But they made it look easy.

02:16:33.000 Well, it's large scale.

02:16:35.000 Everybody could do it like that.

02:16:36.000 You'd have to have small populations of people with good pieces of land.

02:16:39.000 Like, you know, I'm sure your grandfather had to have some.

02:16:42.000 My grandfather had a similar situation in New Jersey.

02:16:44.000 He had a pretty good-sized backyard, and it was all garden.

02:16:48.000 He had this area where he would drive to his driveway.

02:16:50.000 And then everything to the right of the driveway was all sticks in the ground and tomato plants.

02:16:55.000 And my grandfather grew everything.

02:16:57.000 And they turned their tomatoes into tomato sauce.

02:17:01.000 My grandmother made homemade tomato sauce.

02:17:03.000 And like all of his vegetables, he would grow everything that he would eat all year would be like in that garden.

02:17:08.000 That was a normal thing for the immigrants, you know?

02:17:11.000 For people who came here from other parts of the world where, you know, you had to have a supply of food where you lived.

02:17:18.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:17:19.000 I mean, it only makes sense.

02:17:21.000 We've figured out a way to truck things in, people have, you know?

02:17:24.000 Once we start trucking things in, nobody grows anything anymore.

02:17:27.000 I heard a story about people like my uncle and his friend are having money, and they put $300 together and bought a goat and ate off that goat.

02:17:37.000 Smart.

02:17:37.000 Yeah, they fed it a little bit, and then they ate off of it for like a month.

02:17:40.000 Yeah, if you kill a goat in your yard, though, and people find out about it, this is my friend, I don't need to say his name, but my gardener guy that I was talking about earlier.

02:17:50.000 Well, his name's Jose.

02:17:52.000 It's not like you don't know which Jose it is.

02:17:55.000 I'm like, I don't want to give away his identity.

02:17:58.000 And it's probably Jose Canseco.

02:18:00.000 No, no, no.

02:18:01.000 But this, he got a goat, and him and his friends killed it in the yard and butchered it, and then they had a cookout.

02:18:12.000 And the neighbor complained, apparently.

02:18:16.000 And he didn't understand.

02:18:18.000 Like, he was like, what are you, like...

02:18:21.000 What's bothering you about this?

02:18:23.000 He literally didn't understand.

02:18:25.000 He's like, it's safe.

02:18:26.000 It's healthy.

02:18:27.000 This is an animal.

02:18:28.000 I know where the meat's coming from.

02:18:30.000 He's trying to explain this to me in his broken English.

02:18:32.000 He's like, I know where this animal's meat comes from.

02:18:35.000 Why would anybody have a problem with that if you buy meat yourself?

02:18:40.000 He didn't understand.

02:18:41.000 He came from Mexico.

02:18:42.000 He just did not understand why someone would have a problem with him killing a goat in a yard. 0.85

02:18:47.000 It's like, of course I killed the goat in the yard.

02:18:49.000 Where do you want me to kill it?

02:18:50.000 It didn't make sense to him. 0.51

02:18:52.000 They're like, you can't kill a goat in the yard. 1.00

02:18:53.000 He's like, where the fuck do you kill your goat? 0.99

02:18:56.000 And they're like, you don't kill your goat. 0.99

02:18:57.000 Yeah, it's strange.

02:18:59.000 Well, where do you get your meat?

02:19:00.000 You go to the store. 1.00

02:19:01.000 He's like, but you don't know where that fucking meat even came from. 0.99

02:19:04.000 And his idea, that was alien. 0.99

02:19:06.000 It's the logic, man, of how things happen, man.

02:19:09.000 It's weird.

02:19:10.000 And you, like, yeah, if you talk to older people, you understand, like, struggle, you know.

02:19:15.000 And what people, you know, actually went through.

02:19:19.000 And the good part, like, you know, my grandma told me about the first dryer she had.

02:19:25.000 And my grandma is like, you know, don't use it once a month. 0.94

02:19:31.000 Once a month.

02:19:32.000 Yeah, because it's better to dry the linen in the sun.

02:19:36.000 It's still better to dry your clothes in the sun because the sun kills bacteria.

02:19:42.000 Really?

02:19:42.000 That's why if you look at how to tie it, when they say how do you take care of denim and keep it from fading, they'd be like wet it and hang it in the sun because the sun kills the bacteria and gets rid of the smell.

02:19:53.000 Wait a minute.

02:19:54.000 Jeans fade because of bacteria? 0.86

02:19:56.000 No, you want to clean your jeans because it might get smells.

02:19:59.000 When you break it in jeans, you really don't wash them like that.

02:20:02.000 You know, you wear them just like everyday type stuff.

02:20:05.000 And the dye in a denim fades and the cotton shrinks and all that if you wash it.

02:20:11.000 So...

02:20:12.000 Hang them in the sun, you know? 0.96

02:20:15.000 To keep it from shrinking. 0.98

02:20:16.000 To keep it from shrinking.

02:20:17.000 Yeah, I thought it was heat, though, that was doing that.

02:20:20.000 Just the water and then the evaporation from the extreme heat from the dryer.

02:20:25.000 That's what makes them shrink, right?

02:20:26.000 Yeah, but if you hang it in the sun, the sun still kills some of the bacteria and stuff.

02:20:32.000 Makes sense.

02:20:33.000 If you have a dry...

02:20:35.000 We don't do it here, but I did something where I had to stay at a country home and you wash like a sheet or a shirt and you hang it in the sun and let the air hit it and it's just the freshness of the smell, you know.

02:20:46.000 And what was smart about this place, they put the lemon trees near the hanging place so now your clothes got a lemon smell to it.

02:20:57.000 Right.

02:20:58.000 Because of the wind that comes through.

02:21:00.000 That makes sense.

02:21:01.000 Yeah.

02:21:02.000 That actually makes sense.

02:21:03.000 But if you're in a city and it's polluted...

02:21:07.000 Yeah, that's different.

02:21:08.000 That's different.

02:21:08.000 Yeah, your clothes might smell funky.

02:21:11.000 Like, that's the weirdest thing to me is when people around people who smoke cigarettes, how strong the smell is in their clothes.

02:21:18.000 They're strong.

02:21:18.000 Like, I never realized it until I would come home from back when you could smoke in clubs.

02:21:26.000 It was a big thing at comedy clubs, man.

02:21:28.000 I mean, everybody smoked.

02:21:30.000 It was just constant.

02:21:30.000 You would go to a bar, everybody smoked.

02:21:32.000 You would go to comedy clubs, everybody smoked. 0.99

02:21:34.000 And I remember not realizing what I smelled like, and then taking a shower, and then picking up my clothes, and being like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:21:43.000 Like, they stunk. 0.99

02:21:44.000 It smells bad.

02:21:46.000 That is a weird thing, man, that people have something that gives them cancer, and makes everyone around them stink.

02:21:54.000 Like, not even me!

02:21:56.000 I wasn't even smoking! 0.91

02:21:57.000 But being around those people made me stink.

02:22:00.000 And people were like, who cares?

02:22:03.000 I need my smokes.

02:22:07.000 I used to smell like gasoline when I had the 944 because they had a hairline crack in the gas tank.

02:22:13.000 Oh, yeah.

02:22:14.000 So if you fill it all the way up, the fumes would get in the car.

02:22:18.000 My Barracuda, I used to have to drive with the window open. 0.99

02:22:20.000 Fucking terrible smoke and fumes and shit were getting in that car. 1.00

02:22:24.000 It was the worst smell. 1.00

02:22:25.000 I remember that.

02:22:26.000 The gasoline smell.

02:22:27.000 I remember that car, and I met you, and I asked you about that car, and you really broke it down.

02:22:32.000 Kind of what, and it was like, oh, it's a real old school car.

02:22:35.000 Like, the problems that people I know had were old schools.

02:22:38.000 That car was built to look great.

02:22:40.000 That was the problem with that car.

02:22:42.000 The suspension, the setup, and everything was very low.

02:22:46.000 It was very low to the ground.

02:22:48.000 Because it was so low to the ground, it would bottom out on things.

02:22:51.000 It didn't handle very well because it wasn't designed for that.

02:22:54.000 It was just designed to be a really low car.

02:22:56.000 It was tubbed, so the back area where the back seat is was all cut out, and then the frame was welded and bent up so that the wheel tucked deep into the back wheel well. 1.00

02:23:07.000 It looks great, but it's stupid as fuck. 1.00

02:23:10.000 I watched it being made. 1.00

02:23:13.000 I learned with my friends who got old school cars, once you start, you just can't modify one thing with certain cars.

02:23:18.000 Mm-hmm.

02:23:19.000 You know, especially when it comes to, like, suspension and wheels and not doing the brakes.

02:23:23.000 Well, you know what they do now that's really interesting?

02:23:25.000 They do these different companies have suspensions and frames that they build for these old cars.

02:23:32.000 Yeah.

02:23:32.000 Because that's one of the problems with those old cars.

02:23:34.000 You're like...

02:23:35.000 The suspension and the frames, it's so whack.

02:23:38.000 They don't have fully independent suspension.

02:23:41.000 The way it's all set up is so old school.

02:23:44.000 So they have some upgrades, and that can definitely enhance the way these cars perform.

02:23:48.000 But now they do certain companies like Art Morrison.

02:23:51.000 They take a suspension and they build a frame and a...

02:23:55.000 Say if you were going to build a 1969 Mustang, they would build a frame and suspension for the 69 Mustang.

02:24:03.000 And then you take the old body and you bolt it down to this modern frame and suspension.

02:24:09.000 You have a car that performs infinitely better than the original car.

02:24:13.000 It's going to be way stiffer.

02:24:14.000 It's way better designed.

02:24:16.000 And then they have all these suspension improvements.

02:24:18.000 Now they've figured out a way to make...

02:24:21.000 Suspensions that adjust the way a modern car does, so it adjusts constantly, like thousands of times a second. 0.98

02:24:27.000 If you're driving a car, like if you say you get a brand new BMW 7 Series, those things are smooth as a baby's ass. 0.98

02:24:35.000 Just woo! 0.99

02:24:36.000 You drive them, they're so comfortable, man.

02:24:38.000 And one of the reasons why they're so comfortable is they're...

02:24:42.000 The suspension is constantly adjusting.

02:24:45.000 It's constantly adjusting to whether it's bumpy outside or smooth.

02:24:49.000 And every bump that it hits, it calibrates what it needs to do to adjust for this impact, and you get this incredibly stabilized ride.

02:24:58.000 Wow.

02:24:58.000 I'm doing a shitty job of explaining.

02:24:59.000 There's a lot of people right now that are car experts like, You don't know shit about cars! 0.98

02:25:03.000 That makes sense to me. 0.94

02:25:04.000 I know enough to kind of butcher that, but now they know how to do that with old school cars.

02:25:12.000 So they can take that 1969 Mustang and put a similar type of computerized suspension arrangement in it, where it's constantly adjusting to the terrain.

02:25:26.000 They're also figuring out how to do analog brakes on old cars.

02:25:29.000 They haven't figured out that totally yet.

02:25:31.000 That's tough.

02:25:31.000 That's a little bit of a struggle.

02:25:33.000 A friend of mine, he builds and sells cars, but he knows exactly which ones he likes, like the 71 Chevelle.

02:25:41.000 He had the 68 Cobra, which I drove, and that was two cars as scary I drove.

02:25:46.000 The 68 Cobra Mustang, which he put $10,000 into the motor, and it was like over 500 horses.

02:25:51.000 And if it rained a little bit, for me, it had a Kenny Bell blower on it.

02:25:58.000 Oh, God.

02:25:59.000 And that was my first experience with a supercharger and how hyped they are.

02:26:03.000 It's like, you could lose control of that car.

02:26:06.000 Easy.

02:26:06.000 And a Viper.

02:26:07.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:26:08.000 Yeah, I drove a Viper before.

02:26:10.000 Dude, I drove one of those once.

02:26:11.000 I rented one.

02:26:13.000 Out of LA. I got lucky.

02:26:15.000 And just in Idol, that car goes.

02:26:17.000 It just goes.

02:26:18.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:19.000 Have you seen the new ones?

02:26:20.000 Yeah, I saw the new ones.

02:26:20.000 They have...

02:26:21.000 Pull this up.

02:26:22.000 They have this new Viper.

02:26:25.000 Viper AR something, I think it's called.

02:26:27.000 I think that's what it's called.

02:26:29.000 Attack.

02:26:30.000 They have like an attack mode. 1.00

02:26:32.000 This thing is fucking insane. 0.99

02:26:34.000 It's basically a race car that you could buy. 0.98

02:26:37.000 But what they're doing with these Vipers is they're bringing them to these race tracks and it just breaks every record. 0.70

02:26:43.000 Every race track they take it on, this thing breaks records. 0.89

02:26:46.000 And it looks ridiculous.

02:26:49.000 Even in curves or just straight away? 1.00

02:26:51.000 Oh, fuck yeah, curves. 1.00

02:26:52.000 It's got giant tires on it. 0.99

02:26:53.000 The tires are super wide and it's got more than 600 horsepower.

02:26:57.000 What is it called, Jamie?

02:26:58.000 ACR. ACR, that's it.

02:27:00.000 Dodge Viper ACR. You just gotta look at this thing.

02:27:03.000 The deep bevels in the hood.

02:27:05.000 Look at that thing. 0.99

02:27:06.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.99

02:27:08.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

02:27:09.000 It's supposed to be just a fucking preposterous automobile. 0.99

02:27:14.000 And you could buy that at a store. 0.99

02:27:16.000 I mean, it has ground effects that come right out of a race car.

02:27:20.000 Yeah.

02:27:21.000 But this thing is insane.

02:27:23.000 When people review it, when they review it, that's like you on Topanga Canyon, going sideways.

02:27:28.000 Why not that far?

02:27:29.000 It was just a little bit.

02:27:30.000 You know, if you go a little bit, that's just long enough.

02:27:34.000 Yes.

02:27:35.000 Less than a second is long enough.

02:27:36.000 Oh, for fun, yeah.

02:27:38.000 To...

02:27:39.000 You know what's a great road? 1.00

02:27:41.000 Play some more of that shit. 1.00

02:27:42.000 Don't shut it up. 1.00

02:27:43.000 You know what's a great road to go to?

02:27:45.000 There's a road off of the 2. Chris...

02:27:52.000 Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

02:27:53.000 I don't know the name of it.

02:27:55.000 It's a road off the 2, but if you take the 210, and you head towards Pasadena, and you go up into the mountains, there's these crazy abandoned roads where you might not have anybody out there except maybe a dude on a motorcycle.

02:28:10.000 And everything's like turny and twisty.

02:28:12.000 They do a lot of testing out there.

02:28:14.000 If you go out there, you'll see like mules, like a car that they cover, like they would take this car and then they would cover it over with like graphics and maybe even some plastic or something so you couldn't tell what it looked like.

02:28:26.000 I've seen that before.

02:28:27.000 It's kind of dope.

02:28:27.000 Look at that thing.

02:28:28.000 Jesus Christ!

02:28:30.000 Yeah, they're trying to get me to go up to...

02:28:32.000 Somebody's trying to get me to go up to the Crest Highway up there off the 2-1-2.

02:28:35.000 It's fun.

02:28:36.000 You should go up there.

02:28:36.000 Go up there with your car.

02:28:37.000 Because you don't even have to drive fast to have a good time up there.

02:28:40.000 But I don't drive fast on any of them.

02:28:41.000 If there's a car in front of me, I might slow up and wait for it to go by.

02:28:45.000 But I'm doing like 40-40, which is a lot.

02:28:48.000 That's down to double for what you're supposed to do.

02:28:51.000 Yeah, well, with a car like this, you wouldn't be doing that.

02:28:54.000 You'd be going a lot faster.

02:28:56.000 That's the problem with these cars as opposed to like an old car.

02:28:58.000 Like, say if you got like an old BMW. You know what I really like?

02:29:02.000 2002?

02:29:03.000 Yeah, I love those.

02:29:04.000 They're cool, man.

02:29:06.000 Yeah, man.

02:29:07.000 And they're little and they're boxy.

02:29:09.000 But when you drive those things, apparently you feel everything.

02:29:13.000 They're so small.

02:29:15.000 Oh, see this.

02:29:15.000 See if you can pull up the smoking tire 2002. Some dude had a souped up one, and not even souped up, like he put a giant engine.

02:29:26.000 It was just like a really well done version of that engine, but he's driving around in it.

02:29:32.000 I met Matt before.

02:29:34.000 Matt Farron?

02:29:34.000 Yeah, he came to Comedy Club twice.

02:29:35.000 Yeah, he's a big comedy fan.

02:29:37.000 Yeah.

02:29:37.000 He's a good dude.

02:29:38.000 He's a real good dude, and he fucking loves cars. 0.98

02:29:42.000 I know, look at that. 0.98

02:29:44.000 Give me some volume on this.

02:29:46.000 This is...

02:29:49.000 What I really like about him, too, is he's like a regular dude.

02:29:52.000 He's not trying to pretend to be some super professional presenter.

02:29:57.000 He's just a guy who knows a fuckload about cars and really loves them.

02:30:01.000 Look at this thing, man.

02:30:03.000 What year is that, Jamie?

02:30:10.000 No.

02:30:11.000 No, that's the name of the car, Jamie.

02:30:14.000 You think that car's from 2002?

02:30:19.000 Doesn't it say what year?

02:30:26.000 Let's scoot ahead so you can hear what it feels like when he's driving this thing.

02:30:31.000 Yeah, here we go.

02:30:33.000 The M10 is an interesting motor because on the one hand it was sort of BMW's corporate engine at the time, but it actually made its way all the way up to Formula 1. A little too geeked out.

02:30:44.000 And they would use these used, seasoned M10 blocks to build their crazy turbo Formula 1 engines.

02:30:52.000 And there's a really neat documentary about the history of the M10 engine.

02:30:56.000 Pedals are great.

02:30:57.000 See, that's what I'm saying.

02:30:59.000 This dude is a serious geek when it comes to cars. 1.00

02:31:02.000 He really knows his shit, though. 0.99

02:31:03.000 You know what I like when he's in the car with the person who built the car? 1.00

02:31:06.000 How much time and money do you put in it?

02:31:08.000 He's like, man, I put all this time and this money and this energy in it.

02:31:11.000 And he's like, that's the prettiest, you're not going to find another car like this.

02:31:14.000 And he's like, we're about to drive it.

02:31:15.000 And he'll take off.

02:31:16.000 He'll be like, the brakes are a little squishy and the suspension a little off, but it's got a nice little pull to it.

02:31:21.000 He just start off with the disc, like just dishing it off the car.

02:31:24.000 No, he just is honest.

02:31:26.000 He's honest.

02:31:26.000 What year is it, Jamie?

02:31:29.000 66 to 77. Dope little car, man.

02:31:32.000 Little fucking beer can, though. 1.00

02:31:35.000 You know, I had a chance, a pleasure to meet, and I used to drive around downtown in my 944 to see if I could find him at night. 0.99

02:31:42.000 Magnus?

02:31:42.000 Yeah, Magnus.

02:31:43.000 Yeah.

02:31:44.000 I had a pleasure meeting.

02:31:46.000 Somebody was trying to get rid of a 928, and we went over there, and he showed us around. 1.00

02:31:51.000 Oh yeah?

02:31:51.000 No, he's a real friendly guy.

02:31:53.000 His place is amazing too.

02:31:56.000 He has so many old Porsches.

02:31:58.000 I think he's got like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. He's probably got at least 10 of them.

02:32:04.000 No, it's more.

02:32:04.000 I counted like 17 just in the main room.

02:32:08.000 Wow.

02:32:10.000 And he got some more like the 944s and 914s off to the side. 1.00

02:32:17.000 He's got a bunch of turbos too.

02:32:18.000 Yeah.

02:32:18.000 Quite a few turbos now.

02:32:19.000 He really got into a turbo phase where he's buying like those 930 turbos.

02:32:24.000 Yeah, he's an interesting character, man, because his love of...

02:32:28.000 Oh, I see that.

02:32:28.000 His crash.

02:32:29.000 He fucked up. 1.00

02:32:30.000 Oh, boom. 1.00

02:32:31.000 Shit. 1.00

02:32:32.000 Yeah, that was really dumb. 1.00

02:32:35.000 You got a little silly. 1.00

02:32:36.000 Wow. 0.99

02:32:37.000 He plowed into the back or the side of his car into the back of a giant, it looks like a car carrier.

02:32:46.000 Yeah.

02:32:48.000 That's why you're not supposed to drive like that, Byron.

02:32:52.000 It's not supposed to go sideways on public roads.

02:32:54.000 I wasn't that side. 0.99

02:32:56.000 My ass wiggled a little bit. 0.99

02:32:58.000 I caught it. 0.99

02:32:59.000 His cars are all pretty reasonably horsepowered up too.

02:33:03.000 Magnus' cars.

02:33:04.000 He doesn't have anything really crazy.

02:33:07.000 But Sharkworx gave him one of their cars to drive around for a little.

02:33:11.000 And Sharkworx made an 800 horsepower GT2. And Magnus painted it like a different paint scheme.

02:33:19.000 He likes those crazy paint schemes.

02:33:21.000 I got a picture with that one.

02:33:22.000 Oh, that GT2? That was sitting outside.

02:33:25.000 Yeah. 0.77

02:33:26.000 That car scared the fuck out of me.

02:33:28.000 I drove that car.

02:33:29.000 Oh, for real?

02:33:29.000 Scared the fuck out of me.

02:33:30.000 It's one of the few cars where I drove it once.

02:33:32.000 I was like, eh, I'm good.

02:33:34.000 I'm like, this is too much.

02:33:35.000 I see yours, and I'm like, I'm good on that.

02:33:38.000 I just want a stock.

02:33:39.000 I like naturally aspirated because of the way it pulls at a certain time.

02:33:43.000 It's like taking a nice little breather in.

02:33:46.000 There it is right there.

02:33:48.000 That's the car.

02:33:49.000 That car is so fast.

02:33:51.000 It just doesn't even make any sense.

02:34:03.000 See, he's taking it around some corners here.

02:34:12.000 Actually, this is the exact same road where I took it.

02:34:15.000 I was there at this time.

02:34:18.000 I was there with them when they were doing this.

02:34:20.000 But this car is too fast.

02:34:23.000 It's too fast.

02:34:24.000 I mean, it's not maybe too fast for a race car driver, but too fast for a guy like me.

02:34:29.000 One of the cool things about that 2002 is you get to ring the engine out.

02:34:34.000 There's a lot of range where you can drive it.

02:34:36.000 You rev it up, and that's where you get your power, and you can go plenty fast in it.

02:34:41.000 The handling of those cars a lot of times is connected to the lightness and all the feel of the car is coming from the fact that there's not a lot there.

02:34:51.000 This car is a totally different experience. 0.98

02:34:53.000 This car is all about managing the pedal because if you stomp on the pedal, that fucking thing is going spinning. 0.99

02:35:00.000 It's way too powerful. 0.98

02:35:04.000 But, you know, it's one of those things where they keep coming up with new and improved cars every year.

02:35:09.000 Every year, cars get faster and faster and faster, especially performance cars.

02:35:13.000 They've broken the three-second barrier.

02:35:15.000 A lot of cars you could buy today go zero to 60 in less than three seconds.

02:35:20.000 Yeah, that's true.

02:35:20.000 There's a gang of them.

02:35:22.000 I want to drive a Bugatti. 1.00

02:35:23.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

02:35:24.000 Or sit in one. 1.00

02:35:25.000 Not drive it, but just sit in one.

02:35:27.000 That might as well be a spaceship.

02:35:30.000 Those Veyrons? 1.00

02:35:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:35:32.000 Those are ridiculous. 0.98

02:35:34.000 Yeah, my homeboy, he built this 69 Shelby. 0.65

02:35:39.000 The 68 got damaged, so the insurance had to cut him a check, and he spent that money and built a 69 that I haven't drove, and he don't drive it as much because it's worth a lot of money.

02:35:53.000 Look at that, 1,200 horsepower.

02:35:55.000 That's a lot. 0.96

02:35:56.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

02:35:58.000 That's a ridiculous car. 0.99

02:35:59.000 I saw one of those the other day in Beverly Hills. 0.99

02:36:02.000 Someone was balling.

02:36:03.000 Was it the yellow one?

02:36:06.000 The yellow and black one?

02:36:08.000 No.

02:36:10.000 What color was it?

02:36:12.000 I don't remember what color.

02:36:13.000 I want to say it was white, but it had Arab license plates on it, which is really interesting.

02:36:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:17.000 They're getting these cars and these super rich dudes from Saudi Arabia.

02:36:21.000 Yeah.

02:36:21.000 They bring them over for Saudi summer.

02:36:23.000 See, that's what's going on right now. 0.99

02:36:25.000 Where we are is hot as fuck. 0.99

02:36:27.000 Where they live is crazy. 0.99

02:36:29.000 It's way hot. 0.99

02:36:30.000 Where they live is like 150 fucking degrees or something nutty. 0.94

02:36:33.000 And so they come over here when they've got crazy oil money. 0.96

02:36:38.000 They come over here and they bring these cars with their plates that are registered to those other places.

02:36:45.000 And they drive them around and they get away with it because they're super rich. 1.00

02:36:48.000 Fuck is nothing. 1.00

02:36:49.000 Dude, did you see that shit that happened where these guys were racing in Beverly Hills? 1.00

02:36:53.000 They were racing with a Ferrari and a GT3, a Porsche GT3, and they were fucking racing on a residential street in Beverly Hills. 1.00

02:37:02.000 It was... 0.99

02:37:04.000 Flying through fucking red lights, and the neighbors saw them do it. 1.00

02:37:10.000 So the neighbors all were fucking furious. 0.99

02:37:12.000 They're all standing outside on their street, holding up their cameras, and filming these guys, right? 0.98

02:37:17.000 Here it is, right here.

02:37:18.000 Look at this guy's got them.

02:37:19.000 Oh, it's a Ferrari.

02:37:20.000 It looks like, I don't know which version, but in the GT3. I mean, these guys are flying down residential roads.

02:37:32.000 You got two things running at the same time, buddy.

02:37:34.000 You got two windows running.

02:37:36.000 But, um, so while these guys are doing this, the neighbors are aware of it, so they start filming.

02:37:44.000 Because they probably do it.

02:37:45.000 See, look at it, see everybody? 1.00

02:37:47.000 And then, so this car fucking started smoking. 0.98

02:37:49.000 The guy's engine started smoking, and he pulled it into his driveway. 1.00

02:37:52.000 But look at everybody standing out here with their fucking cameras. 1.00

02:37:57.000 They all realize, like, oh my god, this guy's a piece of shit. 1.00

02:37:59.000 Now, one cop inside, that's crazy to me. 1.00

02:38:02.000 But it's so funny, everybody's like, world star!

02:38:04.000 That car's gonna blow up.

02:38:06.000 Everybody's assuming that car's gonna explode.

02:38:08.000 So they're filming it.

02:38:14.000 So this guy was, uh, driving his car so fast and so hard that it caught on fire. 0.99

02:38:19.000 So I'll never buy a fucking Ferrari, by the way. 0.98

02:38:22.000 My people should not be designing things. 1.00

02:38:25.000 I saw a 918 with the Dubai plates on it.

02:38:30.000 Yes.

02:38:31.000 And they had the nerve to put the silver metallic paint on it.

02:38:36.000 So not only bought an expensive car, they made the car look chrome.

02:38:41.000 Oh, I've seen that.

02:38:43.000 Justin Bieber had one of those.

02:38:44.000 He had a chrome Fisker.

02:38:48.000 How do I know that?

02:38:49.000 Why?

02:38:49.000 Because I'm friends with Jamie.

02:38:50.000 Jamie tells me these things.

02:38:51.000 The cops, and shout out to the cops in Beverly Hills, because they nice, you know.

02:38:57.000 I was coming through there.

02:38:59.000 A part fell off my Porsche that holds the alternator and the serpentine belt together.

02:39:06.000 So the car would just lose power.

02:39:09.000 Right?

02:39:10.000 So I'm riding through Beverly Hills.

02:39:12.000 I was going to the Summit.

02:39:14.000 It's a place on Mulholland Drive.

02:39:15.000 I was staying there.

02:39:17.000 And I'm in Beverly Hills with no lights on.

02:39:20.000 Just driving up the street.

02:39:22.000 And cops pull us over.

02:39:24.000 Turn off the car.

02:39:25.000 I can't turn off the car.

02:39:26.000 Why not?

02:39:27.000 Because it's not going to come back home.

02:39:28.000 But I turn it off.

02:39:30.000 They was like, what?

02:39:31.000 I'm like, let me explain to you what's going on.

02:39:34.000 There's a piece of me.

02:39:34.000 I'm trying to explain to them the mechanics.

02:39:37.000 They was like, no.

02:39:38.000 I was like, I'll get out the car and you can do whatever you need to do with me.

02:39:41.000 But if this car cuts off here, it's going to be here.

02:39:44.000 And I had my African homeboy who I just went to DR with me, right?

02:39:50.000 And he was like, hey, officer, what's going on?

02:39:54.000 He's like, I'm going to show you how powerful this thing is that I do.

02:39:57.000 And he's like, look, I work for the IRS. I work for the guy.

02:40:01.000 I'm visiting from Washington, D.C. I work for the national government.

02:40:05.000 The IRS? You know what he's saying?

02:40:07.000 The IRS. They should have shot him on sight. 0.99

02:40:09.000 So everybody's afraid, apparently. 0.95

02:40:11.000 The IRS? Yeah, they're terrified.

02:40:13.000 So he pulled the badge out, yada, yada, yada.

02:40:15.000 And then he was like, okay, you're free to go.

02:40:17.000 And somebody shrubs.

02:40:19.000 And, you know, there was a cop right there.

02:40:22.000 He was like, sir, you don't have to be so close in the bushes.

02:40:26.000 And I remember looking at him like, but sometimes it's fun having your face in the bush.

02:40:30.000 And I smiled and he was just like...

02:40:32.000 He was like, just step away.

02:40:33.000 Just go.

02:40:35.000 They never get my jokes, you know what I mean?

02:40:38.000 Well, there's tents.

02:40:40.000 They're pulling people over with no lights that say they can't shut their car off. 0.99

02:40:43.000 They don't know what kind of crazy shit you're doing. 0.99

02:40:44.000 Yeah, that's true. 0.99

02:40:45.000 I mean, you pull up to a dude, there's two dudes.

02:40:47.000 One of them's from Africa who works for the IRS. The other one's a comedian with some weird jokes. 0.89

02:40:54.000 Their car's running.

02:40:55.000 They can't shut the car off.

02:40:58.000 There's something to talk about in the office. 0.99

02:40:59.000 Right, but a lot of shit could be going on here. 0.90

02:41:01.000 Like, whenever you deal with someone who don't have their lights on, that's weird. 0.99

02:41:06.000 Like, okay, why does this guy not have his fucking lights on? 0.95

02:41:09.000 And then you deal with another thing, he won't shut his car off. 0.99

02:41:12.000 What?

02:41:13.000 What's going on? 1.00

02:41:14.000 Like, there's a bunch of shit that's supposed to happen. 0.99

02:41:15.000 One, you're supposed to have your lights on, you get pulled over, you shut your car off, you shut your ID. Everything's supposed to go according to plan. 0.99

02:41:20.000 So you're throwing in all these new loopholes.

02:41:23.000 It's an improv game we're doing.

02:41:25.000 No lights, okay?

02:41:26.000 Why don't you have lights?

02:41:27.000 I can't.

02:41:28.000 Doesn't work.

02:41:29.000 Alternator.

02:41:29.000 Got an issue.

02:41:30.000 Alright, shut your car off.

02:41:31.000 I can't.

02:41:32.000 Shut the car off.

02:41:33.000 It stays here.

02:41:34.000 I'm going to tell you some true stuff.

02:41:35.000 When I moved here, I had a Honda Prelude.

02:41:36.000 I put a timer belt in it.

02:41:38.000 Fourth generation.

02:41:39.000 Drove it here.

02:41:39.000 I used to get pulled over all the time.

02:41:41.000 Black on black. 0.91

02:41:42.000 I lived in Inglewood, and I realized, like, all the time, I get my car searched, put it in the back of Capoli's cars, and I talked to a cop, and he told me about proximity and how criminals operate, and when they wake up, they get descriptions in the morning, and if you fit that description, they're going to profile you.

02:41:58.000 And that's when I realized, like, oh, I'm living in the wrong neighborhood, driving the wrong vehicle.

02:42:02.000 So when I got the 944, I get what I call corporate old white man colors, that champagne or that boring gray color.

02:42:09.000 And I just drive and I have really no problems.

02:42:12.000 You know what I mean?

02:42:14.000 That's the things, like how my mind works.

02:42:17.000 Sometimes I figure out that pattern and be like, okay, if this is what is getting pulled over and stuff, then I need to, you know, I don't know if it's the survival in you or what, but it's like I have to shift.

02:42:28.000 And some people will be like, I don't feel like I should shift like that.

02:42:32.000 But I'm like, you know, the cops will be like, slow down.

02:42:37.000 I messed up in the...

02:42:39.000 I was doing 60 on Franklin one time, just enjoying my life.

02:42:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:42:44.000 There's white women jogging and everything down the street. 1.00

02:42:46.000 I'm like, this ain't bad.

02:42:47.000 You know, life is great.

02:42:48.000 I tell jokes.

02:42:49.000 And the cops were just like, sir, can you slow down?

02:42:51.000 And I remember putting my hand out the window like, no problem, officer.

02:42:54.000 And that was it.

02:42:56.000 And I was like, this is amazing right here.

02:43:03.000 But I also experienced another white privilege thing when I had an accident in the 944, and it was a Latino people, and a guy got out of the car. 0.78

02:43:11.000 The cop showed up, and I was sitting on the car.

02:43:14.000 The old white guy, he was like, sir, is this your car?

02:43:16.000 I was like, yes, sir.

02:43:17.000 And he was like, okay, everything is going to be okay.

02:43:20.000 And then he went, and he lit into the Mexican people.

02:43:23.000 To where I got uncomfortable to where I almost said something.

02:43:25.000 He was yelling at the Mexican people.

02:43:27.000 He was going over like, this ain't regulation.

02:43:29.000 Where's the paperwork for this?

02:43:31.000 And asking them all the time, let me see your ID. When did you get this?

02:43:34.000 And me coming from Georgia, I'm used to saying black people treat like that, but no other culture. 0.80

02:43:40.000 So I almost stepped in, but something was like, hold on. 0.99

02:43:45.000 And I remember sitting on the car like, damn. 0.98

02:43:48.000 Feeling guilty like, this is what white guilt feels like. 0.99

02:43:51.000 Ha ha ha!

02:43:52.000 But I'm still on the other side, right?

02:43:54.000 Right.

02:43:55.000 So I'm just letting it ride, like, you know.

02:43:59.000 That's funny.

02:44:00.000 Well, like I said before, when you're in that place where you see different stuff, it shapes you somehow.

02:44:06.000 It gets that understanding.

02:44:08.000 I think with a lot of cops, something can happen, too, where they pull over so many people that are illegal immigrants, they start getting upset.

02:44:15.000 They start getting upset at it, and they treat it disproportionately. 0.99

02:44:20.000 I've seen a lot of fucking people that are driving illegally in Los Angeles. 0.99

02:44:25.000 That's true. 1.00

02:44:26.000 I got rear-ended by a dude.

02:44:28.000 That's right.

02:44:28.000 I remember that.

02:44:29.000 Yeah.

02:44:29.000 Dude, no driver's license.

02:44:33.000 I knew a lot of white people who were driving illegally, and they don't worry about it. 1.00

02:44:36.000 Sure.

02:44:36.000 Yeah, nothing happens.

02:44:37.000 Oh, you do if you get pulled over, though.

02:44:38.000 If a cop finds out you're driving illegally, you're in trouble.

02:44:42.000 Yeah.

02:44:43.000 For sure.

02:44:43.000 Everybody, no matter who you are.

02:44:45.000 That's true.

02:44:46.000 If they find out, they'll tell your car.

02:44:47.000 But the odds that you're getting pulled over is kind of slim.

02:44:51.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:44:52.000 Um, yes, the odds are greater if you are black or if you're Mexican of getting pulled over. 0.91

02:44:57.000 I would say that's probably definitely true. 0.98

02:44:59.000 Cut to me getting out the car like this and then he's like, no, not you.

02:45:02.000 And you're like, oh, I was just stretching, you know?

02:45:06.000 Yeah.

02:45:06.000 But, you know, it's what it is to me, you know what I mean?

02:45:11.000 I wouldn't want to be a fucking cop. 0.99

02:45:13.000 Oh, no. 1.00

02:45:14.000 No, I think...

02:45:15.000 Me, honestly, I think their job is too nerve-wracking.

02:45:20.000 For the regular person.

02:45:21.000 I think so, too.

02:45:22.000 And they don't make enough money to go through the mental part of it.

02:45:25.000 Exactly.

02:45:26.000 It'll affect their relationships and their family life.

02:45:29.000 Suicides.

02:45:30.000 Yeah.

02:45:30.000 A lot of cops commit suicide.

02:45:32.000 A lot of cops feel despair.

02:45:33.000 It's a crazy job.

02:45:35.000 It's a crazy job, you know?

02:45:37.000 Yeah.

02:45:37.000 Like, yeah.

02:45:39.000 They gotta go...

02:45:40.000 Like I said, they gotta go...

02:45:41.000 They got a reputation. 0.95

02:45:42.000 Cops have almost a reputation now of a black man.

02:45:49.000 People look at them like...

02:45:51.000 People prejudiced against cops.

02:45:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:45:53.000 And it's like, oh, to me, it's like, oh, shit. 1.00

02:45:55.000 It's true. 0.99

02:45:56.000 This is ironic.

02:45:57.000 And they have to go in those situations.

02:45:59.000 They have to go to the hood with that reputation.

02:46:03.000 Yep.

02:46:03.000 With that outfit on.

02:46:04.000 And that's a scary thing. 0.55

02:46:06.000 Yeah, I mean, if your outfit is being represented by people that are doing fucked up things like those videos that we were talking about earlier, that's your outfit.

02:46:13.000 That's the team you're on.

02:46:14.000 So you have to go and you know that these people are gonna see you, look at you, and know that you represent that team that they've been watching on these videos.

02:46:22.000 And I'm from a place where the cops look like you. 0.99

02:46:24.000 So the cops that treated you fucked up look like you. 1.00

02:46:27.000 That's even darker. 0.99

02:46:28.000 Or they were dirty, so it's a different ballgame, you know what I mean?

02:46:32.000 Yeah.

02:46:34.000 But that's what it is.

02:46:35.000 It's so much that isn't understood outside of the videos that I'll be in.

02:46:40.000 Do you think there's a way on stage that you can relay a lot of the stuff that you're talking about?

02:46:46.000 I feel like if you could figure out a way to make humor out of the difference between your background growing up and what you're experiencing now and just your own unique perspective Yeah, I'm slowly talking about it.

02:47:03.000 You can ask Tosh, when I worked with Tosh, my opening joke, I'd walk on stage and be like, not all Black Lives Matter. 1.00

02:47:11.000 Some niggas should die. 1.00

02:47:12.000 And that's a shot in 30 seconds. 1.00

02:47:15.000 I would get an applause break in 30 seconds at the tense time of that.

02:47:20.000 And by that, I'm telling them, I explain the story of the protests when traffic is being held up, and I'm driving with my gas light on.

02:47:28.000 And I'm like, if my car dies, I'm a hostage in a situation I don't want to be in.

02:47:35.000 And then feeling sorry for that black guy who's stuck in traffic and don't know why, and every white person looking at him.

02:47:42.000 And he's like, this ain't got nothing to do with me. 1.00

02:47:44.000 I'm just on my way to Orange County so I can fuck this white girl. 1.00

02:47:49.000 That was the bit. 1.00

02:47:50.000 But all of it's based on truth.

02:47:53.000 Right.

02:47:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:47:54.000 On truth. 1.00

02:47:54.000 I felt like when those Black Lives Matter protesters were shutting down highways, I'm like, fucking white people. 1.00

02:48:00.000 It was white people that are trying too hard to be down with Black Lives Matter. 1.00

02:48:03.000 So they took it to the highway and shut down the highway.

02:48:06.000 So I knew this one dude who's like a super, super lefty guy.

02:48:09.000 And he was a part of the Black Lives Matter shutting down highways. 0.99

02:48:12.000 And I was like, what are you doing, man?

02:48:15.000 Out in Berkeley. 0.99

02:48:18.000 Super, super liberal, crazy people. 1.00

02:48:20.000 It is a hierarchy of black people just like a hierarchy of white people. 1.00

02:48:23.000 And me and Jamar Nabors, we say some shit like, you know, real niggas don't give a fuck about black issues. 1.00

02:48:30.000 Which is true. 0.99

02:48:30.000 Because they're in survival mode. 0.99

02:48:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:48:34.000 You know, so things like, you know... 0.93

02:48:37.000 Education and shit like that don't really matter. 0.87

02:48:39.000 Even to me, I didn't talk about politics growing up, so I really don't care about politics. 0.95

02:48:44.000 That's how I feel about it.

02:48:45.000 I still gotta grind either way.

02:48:49.000 Do you care at all?

02:48:50.000 When you're looking at Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, you just don't think about it?

02:48:54.000 I think, and I said this before, before everything got crazy, Trump got crazy, I understand sometimes where he's coming from through educational purposes.

02:49:03.000 I understand Republican mindset, you know what I mean?

02:49:06.000 Right.

02:49:06.000 Because I was taught to export businesses and stuff like that.

02:49:09.000 All that makes sense to me.

02:49:11.000 But I don't think...

02:49:12.000 I think this part is for ratings.

02:49:15.000 I see it as a show.

02:49:17.000 And I think Trump is like a character.

02:49:22.000 I definitely think they want everybody to vote for Hillary.

02:49:25.000 I think they're going to lead people that way.

02:49:27.000 Like you lead water to go down a certain ravine.

02:49:30.000 And then Hillary is going to make... 1.00

02:49:33.000 Because her personality ain't the best. 0.99

02:49:35.000 It ain't like a Barack Obama where people be like, I like this lady. 0.95

02:49:38.000 But I think once she get in...

02:49:40.000 You're being too kind.

02:49:41.000 Her personnel is terrible. 0.93

02:49:42.000 Well, you know, I think she's going to make some adjustments on the low that's going to really fuck up people. 1.00

02:49:48.000 She does things that make me super nervous, too. 0.74

02:49:51.000 There's a thing of...

02:49:52.000 You ever see the video of her where she was talking about Gaddafi?

02:49:57.000 She was laughing about how...

02:50:00.000 I think she says, we came, we saw, he died.

02:50:03.000 Ha ha ha.

02:50:04.000 Yeah, and it was like off-camera like she I don't think she realized that she's being filmed or this is just not her behaving like I'm gonna play it for you this this Yes, we came we saw he died She's also looking off at someone else like for their approval She's not even looking at the woman.

02:50:29.000 She's talking to necessarily It's just that's a weird thing to joke about, the enormity, the magnitude of assassinating a foreign leader.

02:50:41.000 Whether he's a dictator or not, there's a lot going on there.

02:50:45.000 You are overthrowing the ruler of a government, even though he's a terrible ruler, and you are now opening up that government and those people that were being suppressed by that government, you are opening them up to the turmoil of establishing a new leader.

02:51:01.000 That's true.

02:51:01.000 And that's where it is right now.

02:51:03.000 So when you see someone who is running for president and they are joking around about a scenario that has taken place that they were a part of, she was a part of, and that scenario is now directly connected to horrific tragedies and this chaos.

02:51:20.000 That is an ISIS stronghold now.

02:51:23.000 Libya is an ISIS stronghold.

02:51:26.000 That Libya situation is not...

02:51:31.000 Um...

02:51:33.000 Yeah.

02:51:34.000 I can't discuss that all in...

02:51:36.000 Libya?

02:51:36.000 Yeah.

02:51:37.000 Yeah.

02:51:38.000 Well, none of those things are good.

02:51:39.000 You know, whenever you have a brutal dictator, like Iraq, Saddam Hussein, it's not good when the world is entertaining brutal dictators.

02:51:49.000 There's a brutal dictator that's in charge of these people. 0.84

02:51:53.000 You know, it's not fair.

02:51:56.000 It's dangerous.

02:51:57.000 Yeah.

02:51:58.000 And we have to interact with this person in some way.

02:52:00.000 I love a country where there's a curfew.

02:52:03.000 And I think that's going to happen here, but I just love a country where there's a curfew.

02:52:06.000 Dominican Republic has a curfew?

02:52:07.000 For women at a certain time, and if a chick was out by herself, they just put her straight in the van. 1.00

02:52:15.000 Dominican Republic has that?

02:52:16.000 And if a dude was out and his lights wasn't right, and he was on a motorbike, the cop got on the bike with him and rode him with him to jail, he had to take the cop to jail.

02:52:24.000 Whoa.

02:52:26.000 So, yeah, there's certain things, like, you know, that is like, wow, that I see, like, happen here.

02:52:34.000 And as far as like that video, to me that's how people of power act. 0.99

02:52:38.000 When I say like real, like rich or successful, powerful people like that and poor people, I always tell people they don't give a fuck. 0.97

02:52:45.000 The people in the middle are the ones that's timid and like, we should do this for animals and that. 0.99

02:52:49.000 But those people and poor people, like you listen to their jokes, They don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:52:54.000 Just like guys I met who talked about, man, I shot three times, man. 0.99

02:52:58.000 I shot the first time, didn't go through, and he started hobbling. 0.99

02:53:01.000 I was like, oh, shit. 1.00

02:53:02.000 And the gun jammed. 1.00

02:53:03.000 I got nervous.

02:53:04.000 Like, these are the stories.

02:53:06.000 So I had the ability to sit with both and just hear the...

02:53:10.000 And it ain't...

02:53:12.000 You know, my comedy is based off this, too, so I got to be like one of these people, too.

02:53:16.000 You know what I mean? 0.99

02:53:16.000 Talking to somebody who's murdered someone with a gun and is laughing and joking around about it, it's got to be fucked up. 0.99

02:53:20.000 But it's like, this guy didn't die, but he did get hit, you know? 0.99

02:53:23.000 Right.

02:53:24.000 But you hear somebody telling this story, and they telling how bad it was, because you know they live it, and it was over something simple.

02:53:33.000 Like, I told you next time I see you that this was going to go down, you know what I mean?

02:53:37.000 Right.

02:53:38.000 And it went down, you know, over something simple. 0.99

02:53:42.000 But I always say, like, the people like that at the top and people at the bottom don't give a fuck. 0.99

02:53:48.000 And that's, and if you look at the politics now, you got Trump and you got his supporters. 1.00

02:53:53.000 Them rednecks and shit that people say they don't like. 0.99

02:53:55.000 Those is like top and bottom people to me. 0.99

02:53:57.000 Yeah.

02:53:58.000 And pattern wise. 0.93

02:54:00.000 But I think, yeah, if Hillary get in, I think they're trying to lure everybody her way, and then she's going, on the low, sign some document that's really going to fuck people up down the line. 1.00

02:54:09.000 Those are my predictions. 0.68

02:54:11.000 Why do you think she's going to do that? 1.00

02:54:12.000 You know how you find out later on, like, oh man, that document that president signed three years ago fucked people up. 0.78

02:54:18.000 Right, oh yeah.

02:54:19.000 You know what I mean?

02:54:20.000 There's a lot of those.

02:54:21.000 Yeah, so I think it's going to be something like that.

02:54:23.000 Well, she's gotten away with so much already.

02:54:26.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.97

02:54:27.000 She's gotten away with so much already, the idea that she's gonna stop once she gets in office is ridiculous. 0.99

02:54:32.000 Because she broke so many fucking laws with her email server, all the lies that she told about Benghazi all throughout her career. 0.98

02:54:40.000 There's like, there's many websites that document all the times they've caught her lying about like pretty important issues. 0.99

02:54:46.000 The idea that she's gonna stop doing that once she becomes president is crazy.

02:54:49.000 She's gotten away with it.

02:54:50.000 She lies when she talks about getting caught in lies.

02:54:54.000 Yeah.

02:54:54.000 Like, when she talked about the FBI having this long interview with her about her email server...

02:55:01.000 There's a direct video that shows the direct comparison between what she said and what he said.

02:55:09.000 What she said and what he said.

02:55:11.000 It's horrible.

02:55:11.000 It's horrible to watch.

02:55:12.000 How is this person even qualified to run for office?

02:55:16.000 Forget about the fact that everybody wants a woman to be the new president. 1.00

02:55:20.000 I get it.

02:55:21.000 Yeah, it'll be fun for everybody.

02:55:23.000 Yeah, let's do it.

02:55:24.000 This is not the one, folks.

02:55:25.000 It's fun for six months until that new car smell gone.

02:55:28.000 Well, she's not the one.

02:55:29.000 This is not the one.

02:55:30.000 You don't want this.

02:55:31.000 I mean, the only thing good is that she's a long-term politician. 0.98

02:55:35.000 Yeah.

02:55:35.000 So she understands the business.

02:55:36.000 The only thing bad is that she's a long-term politician. 1.00

02:55:39.000 She knows the business. 0.97

02:55:40.000 Yeah.

02:55:41.000 So both things are bad.

02:55:42.000 She know the business. 1.00

02:55:43.000 Yeah.

02:55:43.000 You said it right.

02:55:44.000 The business sucks. 0.99

02:55:44.000 And people don't understand that it's a business. 0.99

02:55:46.000 You know what I mean?

02:55:47.000 They mostly get caught up in it.

02:55:49.000 Exactly.

02:55:50.000 But I definitely think, I think people, like we all should, we can find a better way to do things better.

02:55:56.000 I'm hoping.

02:55:56.000 And not put power in like church and government and these things.

02:56:00.000 It's just hard.

02:56:01.000 It's got such a stranglehold.

02:56:03.000 Yeah.

02:56:03.000 The idea that you have to register as either a Democrat or Republican to vote in the primaries, the primaries decide.

02:56:10.000 Which candidate is going to represent these parties?

02:56:13.000 It's a charade.

02:56:14.000 It's never been more obvious that it's a charade.

02:56:17.000 And I fully never learned it because I look at the bigger picture and the pattern. 0.99

02:56:24.000 Well, Byron, we're gonna come back in four years, and we'll see if you're right about Hillary Clinton, if she fucked up. 0.74

02:56:29.000 Because you remember just a little while ago, everybody was saying that Hillary Clinton, that the FBI was gonna drop some bombshell, and that more information was gonna come out about the horrible things that she's involved with and she's done, and then she's gonna probably be indicted, and then she's gonna wind up pulling out. 0.90

02:56:44.000 She's not gonna be running for president. 1.00

02:56:46.000 That was like the big rumors just a few months ago. 1.00

02:56:48.000 Now, Trump has gotten so fucked up, He's done so much stupid shit and said so much stupid shit and now like the Harvard Republican Club for the first time in over a hundred years is coming out against the nominee. 1.00

02:57:03.000 There's like a bunch of different prominent politicians that have come out against him. 1.00

02:57:07.000 You don't remember that.

02:57:09.000 Usually by the time someone gets to a point where they're running for president, they're the Republican nominee, whether it's Mitt Romney or anyone else, Like, they're kind of embraced.

02:57:18.000 You know, like, okay, we've got the nominee, everything's in order, let's move forward.

02:57:22.000 That's not happening now.

02:57:23.000 Even with the election just a couple of months away, people are freaking out and they gotta go, we can't have this guy.

02:57:30.000 This guy can't be our guy.

02:57:32.000 Well, what happened in DR, they got a lady, you know, in charge, and it was some sneaky stuff like that, but when she got in, she started doing the curfews, and she took the Haitians and kicked them out. 1.00

02:57:45.000 You know, she gave them, to be fair, she was like, you got this amount of money, you can stay.

02:57:50.000 Yeah, so it got, and guys were showing me scars that allowed them to stay in the DR. So, yeah, it got real for me over there because I finally talked to these dudes that used to be kids asking for money and now they're adults asking for money.

02:58:06.000 Like, what's going on?

02:58:07.000 And they start breaking it down.

02:58:09.000 Like, yeah, to see a group of people just, like, kicked out of a country like that.

02:58:13.000 And it's like, man, maybe we should be glad we're a lost tribe.

02:58:17.000 That could easily be, you know...

02:58:20.000 It can always be worse, for sure.

02:58:22.000 Yeah, yeah, and they look up to us, they was like, you know, they was like, look, regardless of what's happening, I know, I know black people getting killed by the cops, but you still got a chance to be something.

02:58:33.000 And I couldn't even say nothing like...

02:58:35.000 And meanwhile, North Korea looks up to them. 0.64

02:58:39.000 North Korea, you know, at least they don't have to deal with Dear Leader.

02:58:43.000 They don't have to cry for hours and hours when his dad died.

02:58:46.000 If they don't cry correctly, they get put in jail for six months and forced to work in labor camps.

02:58:51.000 They have labor camps in North Korea where people are literally starving to death and they stick dogs on them and the dogs eat them. 0.99

02:58:56.000 I mean, this is Game of Thrones type shit and it's going on right now. 0.98

02:59:00.000 This guy who... 1.00

02:59:02.000 He grew up in a slave camp.

02:59:04.000 He was a child of someone who was convicted of some sort of a crime and forced to work in these slave camps.

02:59:11.000 Grew up in his camp, did not know the rest of the world, did not know there was a whole world out there, and somehow or another escaped.

02:59:18.000 But he talked about turning his own family in.

02:59:20.000 They have everybody narcing on everybody, turned his whole family in.

02:59:25.000 In his description of the different levels of torture and treatment, like different levels of slavery, like what you're capable of doing when you're almost dead, what you're capable of doing.

02:59:35.000 They have it classified, like what jobs you get, depending upon how close you are to death. 0.99

02:59:41.000 Fucking terrible, man. 0.99

02:59:42.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:59:43.000 Like, yeah, you hear these stories, you meet people that's like six degrees away from that.

02:59:47.000 Yeah.

02:59:47.000 Well, that's what's crazy is that it's 2016, and where we're living here in Los Angeles is super progressive at the front line of culture.

02:59:57.000 We feel like, well, hey, everything's looking up.

02:59:59.000 Everything's getting great.

03:00:00.000 Not if you're in North Korea.

03:00:01.000 Mm-mm. 0.99

03:00:03.000 The world fucked you, and this is where you came out into the world? 1.00

03:00:08.000 That's your spot? 1.00

03:00:09.000 Or Namibia, what we were talking about before?

03:00:11.000 An inch of rainfall in three years? 1.00

03:00:13.000 You're like, fuck! 1.00

03:00:14.000 Thirsty? 1.00

03:00:15.000 Fuck! 1.00

03:00:16.000 You got all that Kool-Aid and only an inch of water coming? 1.00

03:00:19.000 If they even get Kool-Aid over there.

03:00:21.000 I don't think they get Kool-Aid.

03:00:22.000 No.

03:00:23.000 It's not my mind processing.

03:00:24.000 They're starving.

03:00:25.000 There's not a lot of food there.

03:00:27.000 All that peanut butter they're eating?

03:00:28.000 I don't think so.

03:00:29.000 Okay. 1.00

03:00:30.000 They shoot animals and shit. 1.00

03:00:31.000 That's all they can do. 1.00

03:00:33.000 Byron Bowers, ladies and gentlemen.

03:00:35.000 Hey, this has been amazing, man.

03:00:36.000 I'm glad we did this.

03:00:37.000 It was a good experience.

03:00:37.000 It was cool.

03:00:38.000 And check out Byron if you're ever in Los Angeles or if you're ever anywhere.

03:00:42.000 He's performing. 0.97

03:00:43.000 He's fucking hilarious. 0.96

03:00:44.000 You got a website? 0.98

03:00:46.000 ByronBowersLive.com Twitter, Facebook, at Byron Bowers.

03:00:50.000 Snapchat, Byron Bowers Live.

03:00:52.000 Instagram?

03:00:53.000 Instagram, Byron Bowers.

03:00:56.000 Love Instagram, by the way.

03:00:57.000 Me too.

03:00:58.000 All right.

03:00:58.000 Beautiful.

03:00:59.000 Thank y'all.

03:00:59.000 Thanks, brother.

03:01:00.000 It's been fun.

03:01:01.000 Yay! 0.99

03:01:02.000 Have a good whatever.

03:01:03.000 Whatever we doing.

03:01:07.000 Three hours.

The Joe Rogan Experience - August 09, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience #831 - Byron Bowers

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