The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #920 - Gavin McInnes

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00:00:17.000 Tickets just went on sale today, and they're selling fast.

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00:00:26.000 We may expand and open up more, but don't sleep.

00:00:30.000 Not sure who's going with me.

00:00:32.000 I'm going to try to organize that today.

00:00:35.000 And also, Buffalo on April 7th.

00:00:38.000 That's another one that's on sale.

00:00:40.000 Second show almost sold out.

00:00:40.000 First show sold out.

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00:00:57.000 Nevada, Las Vegas, next weekend, Friday the 3rd, with Tony Hinchcliffe and Ian Edwards.

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00:07:37.000 My guest today is Gavin McGinnis.

00:07:39.000 Gavin is a funny fellow.

00:07:42.000 He is a libertarian.

00:07:44.000 He is an outrage peddler.

00:07:47.000 He's a very smart and fun guy to hang out and talk to, and I really enjoyed our conversation.

00:07:52.000 And I know this is like, he gets lumped in with that whole alt-right group.

00:07:57.000 And, you know, he's got some interesting beliefs, and some of them I agree with, and some of them I don't.

00:08:02.000 But I think he's a very reasonable guy, and I think he's an entertaining guy, and I like talking to him.

00:08:07.000 And when I have too many people on that are right, people start thinking, oh, you're in the right, man.

00:08:16.000 You're going right on us.

00:08:17.000 You're going all right.

00:08:19.000 No, I like having different people on with different opinions.

00:08:22.000 And sometimes I schedule too many right people in a row, but it's just how it works.

00:08:28.000 You know, it's just scheduling.

00:08:29.000 It's not on purpose.

00:08:30.000 It's just, that's how it worked out.

00:08:32.000 They're available.

00:08:32.000 They're in town, whatever.

00:08:34.000 What am I making excuses?

00:08:35.000 He's a great guy.

00:08:36.000 I enjoy talking to him.

00:08:37.000 Give it up for Gavin McGinnis.

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00:08:53.000 Gavin McGinnis.

00:08:54.000 First beer already cracked.

00:08:56.000 Dressed up like Michael Douglas and falling down.

00:08:58.000 Show him the briefcase.

00:08:59.000 Show him the briefcase.

00:09:00.000 I got the exact briefcase he had.

00:09:04.000 Are those the same glasses he had?

00:09:06.000 Basically, yeah, Ray Bands.

00:09:07.000 And a normal protector.

00:09:08.000 Would not wear a pocket protector, correct?

00:09:10.000 No one wears them anymore.

00:09:12.000 But everyone in the movie has one.

00:09:13.000 Yeah, whenever you want to have a geek in a movie, like some sort of science character, he has to have a pocket protector.

00:09:19.000 Well, I got all this on eBay.

00:09:21.000 If you have some pre-planning, you can get a costume for like $10.

00:09:26.000 So this is $1.50.

00:09:27.000 It would have taken me months to find this on the street.

00:09:29.000 Yeah, how do you find a pocket protector?

00:09:31.000 eBay.

00:09:32.000 eBay, eBay.

00:09:33.000 eBay and the tie, I assume, is yours.

00:09:36.000 The shirt.

00:09:36.000 Is that your shirt?

00:09:37.000 Did you buy that shirt?

00:09:38.000 It's a great example of what I'm talking about.

00:09:39.000 I had to find this in New York.

00:09:40.000 It took me like two hours.

00:09:42.000 I had to go to a uniform supply store.

00:09:44.000 Huge pain in the ass.

00:09:45.000 I could have got it on eBay or Amazon for two seconds.

00:09:48.000 Yeah, that's a weird kind of shirt, right?

00:09:50.000 A button-up shirt with short sleeves that you wear with a tie.

00:09:54.000 That's an odd look.

00:09:55.000 It's like I'm formal, but I'm not because I need my forearms free.

00:09:59.000 Yeah, it's like LA.

00:10:00.000 Everyone in that movie has one.

00:10:02.000 It's like an LA business IT guy.

00:10:04.000 Back then.

00:10:05.000 Back then.

00:10:06.000 No one wears them anymore.

00:10:07.000 Now it's like a hoodie.

00:10:11.000 That's like an IT guy wear like a weird t-shirt and a hoodie.

00:10:14.000 Like Jamie.

00:10:14.000 He'd be dressed exactly like Jamie.

00:10:16.000 Look, that's what a hoodie.

00:10:17.000 That's what an IT guy is dressed in.

00:10:18.000 It's a comedian uniform, too.

00:10:20.000 They all wear that American apparel sweatshirt.

00:10:22.000 Exactly.

00:10:24.000 Oh, that's his own.

00:10:25.000 That's a Jamie Vernon special.

00:10:27.000 It says, pull that shit up.

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:30.000 And you can get that at youngjamie.com.

00:10:33.000 What does that mean?

00:10:33.000 Pull that shit up.

00:10:34.000 I'm always telling him whenever there's something going on in the news or we're talking about something we don't know what the answer is.

00:10:39.000 Like, what is that?

00:10:40.000 Oh, pull that shit up, Jamie.

00:10:41.000 And he'll find it up on YouTube.

00:10:44.000 Speaking of pull that shit up, I like this.

00:10:46.000 I like your profile because I think you get lumped into like a lot of really fucked up, crazy people because you've got some controversial ideas.

00:10:57.000 But I like what you did.

00:10:58.000 I like this pro-West, pro-gun, pro-life, pro-gay, pro-Israel, pro-Trump, anti-Nazi.

00:11:06.000 I don't know what antifa is.

00:11:08.000 I see it all the time.

00:11:09.000 I'm sure you can explain it to us.

00:11:11.000 Anti-censorship, anti-feminist, anti-Islam.

00:11:15.000 You leave your heart on your sleeve.

00:11:17.000 Well, it's really handy to do that.

00:11:18.000 I just did that about a week ago, but in this day and age, we're in a weird era where it's like a philosophy age.

00:11:24.000 We're all Romans all of a sudden, like Socrates sitting here philosophizing, and you kind of have to make everyone know exactly where you stand on this spectrum.

00:11:33.000 Because if you're slightly right of center, you're alt-right and you're a Nazi.

00:11:38.000 You go, no, those guys hate me, but I hate these guys, so I'm here.

00:11:42.000 Right.

00:11:42.000 You're pro-gay.

00:11:44.000 Yeah, I think gays are just, you're born gay. 1.00

00:11:46.000 Yeah.

00:11:47.000 And the idea that, you know, I know I've lived in the city since I was 18, so I've been around gays for a quarter century, and I think of these guys I know that have been together for 10 years, and I go, so let me get this straight.

00:11:58.000 These two are going to break up, according to you, an evangelical person, and then they're just going to make out with some chick with blonde hair and eat her out. 0.99

00:12:06.000 And like, fuck her and have a boner and pray to God. 1.00

00:12:09.000 Come on.

00:12:10.000 You know that won't happen.

00:12:12.000 I wonder how much of homosexual behavior could be induced by molestation at an early age, though.

00:12:21.000 Yeah, that's the million-dollar question.

00:12:22.000 That seems to be a real factor.

00:12:25.000 And this is not denying people that are born gay, but I think there's a spectrum.

00:12:32.000 And I think there's most certainly some gay acts that are committed on young people. 0.99

00:12:37.000 And horrifically, those people tend to, on a pretty frequent basis, do the same thing to other young kids.

00:12:46.000 It gets really weird in terms of the victims becoming the victimizer.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, I know where you're going with this.

00:12:53.000 We're walking into the elephant in the room.

00:12:54.000 Well, we're kind of not even.

00:12:55.000 I'm just talking about, I was listening to the George Takai interview today because they're Trying to pull up everybody.

00:13:01.000 Now that the Milo thing is out, they're pulling up everybody who in any way has condoned sex with underage people.

00:13:09.000 And George Takai was talking about his own experiences in camp, and it was on Stern Show.

00:13:14.000 And he was just talking about what he, the way he was describing it as a positive experience with a kid who was in his late teens.

00:13:23.000 I think he said he was 19, and he was like 13, somewhere in that age.

00:13:28.000 And, you know, it's absolutely child molestation.

00:13:31.000 It's absolutely illegal.

00:13:33.000 But the way he was describing it, he was pretty much describing it as a positive experience.

00:13:39.000 Which when it's your experience, I mean, it's illegal.

00:13:39.000 Right.

00:13:44.000 The guy did something that was against the law, but boy, that's a weird area because it's his experience that he was talking about.

00:13:53.000 Yeah.

00:13:54.000 Well, here's the deal, and this is a mistake Milo made.

00:13:57.000 You have to acknowledge that what you're talking about is fucked up and horrible and wrong, but you just so happen to have not had a bad experience within those parameters.

00:14:07.000 Right.

00:14:08.000 Like say you were raped as a woman and you came. 0.99

00:14:12.000 Right.

00:14:12.000 Which, by the way, happens for some strange people.

00:14:14.000 Okay, so if you're one of those women and you're about to say that, you have to understand that we're going into a very dangerous place right now.

00:14:21.000 And you can't say, look, some rapes are absolutely fabulous and women have come from them. 1.00

00:14:25.000 You have to say, this is fucking horrible.

00:14:27.000 Rape is evil.

00:14:28.000 But I, by some weird freak of nature, actually liked it.

00:14:31.000 Or a murder.

00:14:32.000 I'm sure there's times when you murdered a guy and he ended up, he was a mass murder and it was a good murder. 0.97

00:14:36.000 And you go, okay, I'm describing a murder.

00:14:38.000 I am not condoning murder.

00:14:39.000 But in this weird case, it worked.

00:14:42.000 And Milo's mistake was he said, it worked for me.

00:14:45.000 And then he implied that it could work for a ton of other gays to be fucked at 13.

00:14:50.000 Well, he did that Drunken Peasants podcast, and his take on it from the drunken peasants was different than his take on it from mine.

00:14:58.000 And on my podcast, it seemed more like he was trying to make light of something that most likely definitely did happen to him.

00:15:05.000 The Father Michael thing?

00:15:06.000 Yeah.

00:15:07.000 So there's two.

00:15:08.000 There's the Father Michael thing, and I don't know if I believe that.

00:15:11.000 I think that's just a, I've heard him say that joke a few times where he's like, I never would have given such good head if it wasn't for Father Michael.

00:15:17.000 So you think that might be something that he's constructed?

00:15:17.000 Right.

00:15:20.000 I don't believe it.

00:15:21.000 I don't know why.

00:15:22.000 That's just my gut.

00:15:23.000 And then the other thing was condoning sexual relationships with 13-year-olds.

00:15:27.000 And he said, especially in the gay world.

00:15:29.000 Now, I know of straight guys who were, a straight guy I'm thinking of in particular, who was molested at camp.

00:15:36.000 And it was by an older gay camp counselor.

00:15:39.000 This guy thinks of that guy every day.

00:15:41.000 He follows him on LinkedIn, hoping he'll die.

00:15:43.000 He wants to murder him.

00:15:45.000 So the problem with what Milo said is you end up normalizing this behavior and say it's okay in the gay world.

00:15:51.000 Next thing you know, some older gay who's at camp goes, well, this is probably a fag that I'm blowing. 1.00

00:15:56.000 So this is okay.

00:15:58.000 So what I say to these gays, these 13-year-old gays that go, I would be okay with fucking a 29-year-old. 1.00

00:15:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:03.000 I go, well, I'm sorry, but we're not normalizing that because the vast, vast majority of times, it doesn't turn out well.

00:16:10.000 So no.

00:16:12.000 Yeah, that's a very good way of putting it.

00:16:14.000 You know, and it's really disturbing.

00:16:16.000 Well, the Milo thing is so odd because, first of all, I think he's got this act.

00:16:22.000 And let's call it an act because part of it has got to be an act.

00:16:25.000 He's got a wide spectrum of his personalities.

00:16:28.000 Yeah.

00:16:29.000 So on Bill Maher, he can be a raging Liberace queen with pearls on.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, dressed like a woman. 0.99

00:16:33.000 I mean, dressed like a woman. 0.93

00:16:35.000 Camper than any woman, I know. 1.00

00:16:35.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:16:37.000 Yeah.

00:16:38.000 And then for the apology, he's the conservative with the Coke bottle glasses.

00:16:41.000 Yeah.

00:16:42.000 It's sort of like when a Jamaican goes back to Jamaica and they start speaking in patois like their grandmother. 0.88

00:16:48.000 You're not necessarily lying.

00:16:51.000 It's just a wide range of you's.

00:16:53.000 Yeah, he plays it up.

00:16:54.000 And there's definitely a performance piece to a lot of what he does.

00:16:59.000 What's really interesting is he's very good at riling people up.

00:17:03.000 He's obviously very good at getting people upset.

00:17:05.000 And in doing so, he's created these sort of false narratives about him, that he's a Nazi, that he promotes genocide.

00:17:14.000 I mean, there were so many people outside the Berkeley thing that were screaming, calling him a Nazi, and saying he's a fascist, when they, in fact, were behaving in very authoritarian, fascist ways.

00:17:27.000 That's Antifa, by the way.

00:17:28.000 You said I don't know what Antifa is.

00:17:30.000 Anti-fascist.

00:17:30.000 That's those guys.

00:17:31.000 Is that what Antifa stands for?

00:17:33.000 They're terrorists and they use terror.

00:17:33.000 But you're right.

00:17:35.000 They use violence to achieve political gains, which is terrorism.

00:17:39.000 And these people, it's not like Milo ever said, or Trump even ever said anything that is remotely close to genocide.

00:17:47.000 But those guys just go, anyone that wants to enforce immigration laws is a fucking Nazi.

00:17:53.000 So I need violence because I'm trying to stop Hitler. 0.93

00:17:55.000 I'm around the first stages of Hitler. 0.90

00:17:58.000 So I'm going back in time and strangling him in his crib.

00:18:00.000 Right, right.

00:18:01.000 But the problem is the way they're reacting to it is the absolute wrong way to react to someone who's saying something that you don't agree with.

00:18:09.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:10.000 The right way is to say something that you feel opposes what they're saying and makes more sense, to debate them.

00:18:17.000 That's the beauty of free speech.

00:18:18.000 Like, it has no limits.

00:18:20.000 If you want to get out there and deny the Holocaust, you want to get out there and sexualize toddlers, I'll go to your talk. 0.99

00:18:27.000 And then in the Q ⁇ A, I'll shoot you down. 1.00

00:18:27.000 I want to hear it. 1.00

00:18:30.000 Well, I don't think it even should just be a Q ⁇ A. I mean, I think it should be real clear.

00:18:36.000 There should be someone who shouldn't just rely on the audience to come up with some sort of a response.

00:18:42.000 I think if you're going to have someone as controversial as Milo and you are so opposed to it that you're willing to throw bricks through Starbucks windows and light cop cars on fire, there should be someone that can speak for your side.

00:18:55.000 Of course.

00:18:55.000 and then you should organize some sort of a talk.

00:18:56.000 But this is setting it up the wrong way because you go...

00:19:03.000 If I was a black belt, I'd fucking kick everybody's ass. 0.87

00:19:06.000 I go, no, you wouldn't.

00:19:07.000 First of all, you wouldn't because you'd have discipline and you'd realize the consequences of that.

00:19:07.000 No, you wouldn't.

00:19:10.000 But second of all, when you just kick someone's ass, they don't just take it. 0.60

00:19:15.000 Like they come back with a bat or a gun or their brother or you start a fight.

00:19:19.000 They want to get it back.

00:19:20.000 And it goes back and forth and back and forth.

00:19:22.000 And all conflict pretty much goes that way.

00:19:26.000 You have conflict and then someone responds to that conflict and it escalates.

00:19:29.000 So if you have this thing where you start throwing bricks through windows and lighting cop cars on fire and stopping people from talking and hitting people that have make Bitcoin great again hats, did you see that girl who got maced in the face?

00:19:41.000 You know what happens?

00:19:42.000 Eventually, people show up with guns.

00:19:44.000 That's what happens.

00:19:46.000 And this is what happens.

00:19:47.000 When you keep escalating the violence, you become a them, you become the other, you become the enemy, and you create this polarizing atmosphere that's so intense that no dialogue is going to fix it now because you're the enemy.

00:20:02.000 You're talking about the North versus the South.

00:20:04.000 You're talking about, you know, the Protestants versus the Catholics. 0.97

00:20:07.000 You create this horrific environment where it's almost impossible to avoid violence.

00:20:15.000 Well, so I'm done avoiding it.

00:20:17.000 I'm taking the low road.

00:20:18.000 I'm punching them in the face.

00:20:19.000 So that's what you're doing with this outfit?

00:20:21.000 Yes.

00:20:22.000 That is really what I'm doing with this outfit.

00:20:24.000 I did a talk at NYU.

00:20:25.000 They pepper sprayed me.

00:20:26.000 Did they really?

00:20:26.000 When was this?

00:20:27.000 This was a couple weeks ago.

00:20:29.000 What was it talk about?

00:20:30.000 I didn't even have a plan.

00:20:32.000 They know me as pro-Trump or something, and I'm a Nazi because of that, and they don't want to give a platform to free speech.

00:20:38.000 That's the irony of all this, is they pretend that it's gotten so far it's beyond debate now.

00:20:45.000 In their world, we are recruiting fascists for some sort of imminent genocide.

00:20:50.000 So we're like signing up the brown shirts with a form at our talks.

00:20:54.000 And you go, say that was possible?

00:20:58.000 How does that work?

00:20:59.000 Like we sign you up, then you're part of the club, then you come with us on the next genocide?

00:21:03.000 The fuck are you talking about?

00:21:04.000 You haven't played it through in your mind because for these people, it's a religion.

00:21:08.000 That's why they don't want to debate.

00:21:10.000 It's like a born-again.

00:21:11.000 He doesn't want to debate about the existence of God.

00:21:13.000 He's already on that side.

00:21:15.000 So what was your plan when you went there?

00:21:18.000 What did you want to talk about?

00:21:19.000 I was going to say this Nazi that you've made Milo and I out to be, who wants genocide and who sees non-whites as inhuman, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, homophobic, sexist, whatever.

00:21:34.000 First of all, that guy should be allowed to talk if he existed, but he doesn't exist.

00:21:39.000 Your monster is a mythical beast.

00:21:42.000 And you've gone to college, you're 60 grand in debt already to fight this mythical beast who doesn't fucking exist.

00:21:48.000 Well, in terms of Milo, he definitely doesn't exist.

00:21:50.000 Milo's not a Nazi.

00:21:52.000 He's definitely, he's not promoting genocide.

00:21:54.000 And those are two things that just get trumpeted about left and right.

00:21:57.000 Exactly.

00:21:57.000 Who is?

00:21:58.000 But Milo has said some very inflammatory things about, in a very generalizing way, about women and about the wage gap and about all sorts of things that he designs his words and his phrases to be inflammatory so he gets the most response and it's been incredibly profitable.

00:22:17.000 I mean, up until Harper Collins pulled his book deal, he had a $250,000 book advance.

00:22:22.000 His book was number one on Amazon just sheerly through controversy.

00:22:26.000 Yep.

00:22:27.000 I mean through pre-sales and controversy.

00:22:29.000 So it's a strategy in a lot of ways and it's also a response to this really hard stance that the far left is taking, this anti-free speech stance.

00:22:41.000 Right, but always with these cases you go, what exactly did he say?

00:22:44.000 I always say this to people who bitch about any culture. 1.00

00:22:46.000 I go, what sentence in what book is factually incorrect?

00:22:49.000 What specifically are you saying?

00:22:51.000 And with this Milo thing, he said that often sexual relationships with 13-year-olds can be beneficial for gays.

00:23:00.000 He has since retracted that and apologized, but that's not enough.

00:23:04.000 And that's about as egregious as it gets.

00:23:06.000 The other stuff that he says, we all say in a joking way, and then that becomes pure evil, and you advocate for this.

00:23:14.000 Right.

00:23:15.000 So the left is willfully ignorant of humor when it comes to Milo and with Trump too.

00:23:20.000 Like with the grab the pussy thing, which they had a whole fucking parade about, and they still wear these dumb wool hats to look like a pussy, which is a joke he said on a bus.

00:23:28.000 So you're wearing a dumb joke on your head.

00:23:31.000 They know that he doesn't want to have a new policy called the pussy grabbing statute, but they are willfully hiding their sense of humor so they can take things literally and go off on a tirade about this. 0.77

00:23:42.000 Well, I think they're shocked that we've been fed our entire life politicians that speak in a statesmanly-like way, a very predetermined, planned-out way, where they have pauses in their speech.

00:23:58.000 Like Obama, when he speaks, he has some very non-normal patterns to his behavior.

00:24:05.000 Like those things that people do, the showmanship of being a president, that it's all designed to comfort you and have you think that this person is clearly different than anyone you know.

00:24:16.000 They talk different.

00:24:17.000 They have better speech speeches.

00:24:20.000 They have better speaks.

00:24:22.000 They're statesman-like.

00:24:24.000 They speak in these pre-planned out sentences that are articulate and cleanly worded.

00:24:31.000 And that's not what you get with Trump.

00:24:33.000 And that disturbs the shit out of people.

00:24:34.000 It disturbs it.

00:24:35.000 Like, I saw so many people going off the other day about his talk about uranium and Hillary Clinton selling uranium.

00:24:41.000 You know, how it's things and it's for things, very bad things.

00:24:46.000 Like, he's running out of words.

00:24:47.000 He doesn't know what the words are.

00:24:48.000 You know, that doesn't necessarily mean anything, but people are pointing to it like it's this horrible moment where this president, essentially all he did was run out of words.

00:24:58.000 The fucking guy is probably working 16 hours a day.

00:25:01.000 He's probably exhausted.

00:25:02.000 I mean, the overwhelming stress of the job for any one of them is almost immediately apparent once they get into office.

00:25:08.000 And you're seeing it with Trump as well.

00:25:10.000 You're seeing like that unhinged press conference that he made.

00:25:13.000 Guarantee you, some of that has to do with the fact the guy is worn the fuck out.

00:25:18.000 You know, he's a 70-year-old man.

00:25:20.000 Like, I'm almost 50, and I'm fucking tired all the time.

00:25:22.000 How's this guy who's 20 years older than me going to deal with the stress of running the biggest economy, the biggest military, the most insane country the world has ever known?

00:25:36.000 I mean, that's what the United States is.

00:25:38.000 Yeah, they say Maggie Thatcher slept four hours a night. 1.00

00:25:40.000 Four hours a night repeatedly starts to chip away at your psyche.

00:25:44.000 Oh, yeah.

00:25:44.000 But the thing I always say about Trump when they say he's not presidential is, I tried that.

00:25:48.000 I tried it with Romney.

00:25:50.000 You got mad at his binder comment.

00:25:52.000 I tried it with Cruz, the constitutional superman who could debate anyone and was erudite and presidential.

00:25:59.000 And you went, no, he's ugly.

00:26:01.000 So I said, okay, I'm bringing in Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack, and he's just going to be a wrecking ball.

00:26:06.000 And when Huffington Post says we're putting Trump in the entertainment section instead of the news section, Rodney and Cruz wouldn't have said anything.

00:26:13.000 Trump says, and Ann Coulter points this out in her book, In Trump We Trust, Trump goes, Ariana Huffington, didn't your husband leave you for a man?

00:26:20.000 Yeah, I think he made the right choice.

00:26:22.000 I think it was a very good choice.

00:26:23.000 And I go, you brought this on yourself.

00:26:26.000 You made me have to get him.

00:26:28.000 Well, what she's doing, you know, what Ann Coulter's doing is very similar to what Milo's doing.

00:26:33.000 I mean, they're merchants of outrage, and that's what they're doing.

00:26:38.000 I disagree.

00:26:38.000 I think they're speaking in a hyperbolic tone.

00:26:40.000 They're flamboyant.

00:26:41.000 But that's the charge of it.

00:26:42.000 But it's still there.

00:26:43.000 Yes, there's definitely some truth, especially with Milo, some of the things that he says.

00:26:50.000 It's all truth.

00:26:51.000 Again, I'm saying it right now.

00:26:53.000 What did he say that's factually incorrect?

00:26:55.000 That wasn't a joke.

00:26:57.000 Not factually incorrect, but extremely offensive to people.

00:27:00.000 Like the 13-year-old boy comment, like the thing about sort of normalizing relationships between grown men and 13-year-old boys.

00:27:09.000 You know, I think a big part of why he even says that is because he's in many ways like a natural contrarian and in many ways a guy who wants to get a rise out of people.

00:27:09.000 Right.

00:27:21.000 And by saying that, he didn't feel like there's any consequences to being outrageous in that regard.

00:27:26.000 Right.

00:27:26.000 But I think we could both agree whether or not it's factual in his case, it's a fucked up thing to say, right?

00:27:32.000 It is a fucked up thing to say.

00:27:33.000 It was negligent, which is why he apologized.

00:27:36.000 But I think the grain of truth to that, and with his other statements, is a lot more than a grain.

00:27:41.000 But the grain of truth to what he was saying is gays have less chastity than straits. 0.98

00:27:46.000 And if a woman is known as a slut, she's less likely to be picked up. 1.00

00:27:49.000 And I've been sued for calling a woman a slut.

00:27:52.000 Were you really?

00:27:52.000 Yep.

00:27:53.000 Who sued you?

00:27:54.000 It was a long time ago back in Vice days.

00:27:55.000 It was in do's and don'ts.

00:27:57.000 And the way the law is, it's kind of antiquated, but it's like, oh, you called her a slut. 0.99

00:28:02.000 Now she won't have currency in the market of marriage because she's known as a whore. 1.00

00:28:07.000 So we're going to punish you punitively for this sin.

00:28:11.000 Did you have to settle?

00:28:12.000 Yeah.

00:28:12.000 God damn it.

00:28:13.000 You can't even call someone a slut.

00:28:15.000 There's no equivalent word for a man.

00:28:19.000 No.

00:28:20.000 A cad?

00:28:20.000 That's a compliment.

00:28:21.000 That's hilarious.

00:28:22.000 A cad is hilarious.

00:28:24.000 Well, the fact that there's no equivalent for a man shows you that there's a different standard.

00:28:27.000 And then with gays, it is different too. 0.90

00:28:30.000 Like 13-year-old and an older person, right? 0.59

00:28:33.000 If it's a girl and a 40-year-old teacher, I want to take him in the parking lot and beat him till he has a weird, he walks weird for the rest of his life.

00:28:40.000 If it's a woman and a boy, I don't want to murder her.

00:28:45.000 Grossed out.

00:28:46.000 13 especially.

00:28:47.000 14, a little better.

00:28:49.000 And then with gays, well, I'm not going to make the same mistake Milo made right now.

00:28:55.000 Don't ever do it.

00:28:57.000 But if a gay is known as a slud in the future, like say a 19-year-old fucks 200 people, as a woman, no one wants to go near. 1.00

00:29:04.000 As a gay, you've been around the block.

00:29:08.000 Yeah, there's not the same consequences for sure.

00:29:10.000 And I had a bid in my act about, I don't know if you remember this commercial, but there was a commercial, a Just for Men commercial, where there was a baby that was driving a Porsche, a baby with a beard, and there was a grown woman next to the baby.

00:29:24.000 And the baby has like a tuxedo on, and it's like, you've always wanted the biggest, baddest beard.

00:29:29.000 And the baby goes to the nightclub, and the bouncer looks at him and winks at him.

00:29:32.000 Like, look at this.

00:29:33.000 Look at this commercial.

00:29:34.000 See the baby?

00:29:35.000 Yeah.

00:29:36.000 So the baby walks in just for men. 0.99

00:29:37.000 I mean, I don't know what the fuck.

00:29:39.000 Just for men, if you don't know it, is some stuff that guys put in their beard when they're getting old.

00:29:42.000 So this baby's got a bottle.

00:29:44.000 He goes out to the dance floor.

00:29:46.000 There's all these girls with these tiny little skirts dancing around him. 0.98

00:29:50.000 And he's like a pimp.

00:29:52.000 And he's with this hot woman.

00:29:54.000 And this to me, my bit was, this is proof positive.

00:29:57.000 Proof positive there's no sexual equality when it comes to child molesting.

00:30:01.000 Because if you even wrote that down with the sexes reversed, if you even wrote it down, you're fucking going to jail. 0.60

00:30:07.000 Okay?

00:30:08.000 There's a little baby girl and she goes out to a room full of guys who are wearing Tarzan skirts and they're all swinging dicks around her and she's got a bottle and they're all fighting for her attention and kissing her on the cheek.

00:30:19.000 You would go to fucking jail.

00:30:21.000 But that was a commercial that aired on mainstream television and no one cared about it.

00:30:24.000 That commercial aired for years.

00:30:26.000 It's probably still on now.

00:30:28.000 And that commercial is proof positive that we have a completely different attitude towards a grown woman who's hot as fuck and a little baby. 0.79

00:30:37.000 Yeah.

00:30:37.000 Well, even I was watching Big with the Kids the other day.

00:30:40.000 Tom Hanks is what, eight in that movie?

00:30:42.000 Nine.

00:30:43.000 And then that woman seduces him and I guess he fucks her. 1.00

00:30:45.000 He gets a boner.

00:30:47.000 And I'm like, you're raping a child.

00:30:49.000 Exactly.

00:30:50.000 Why are we watching?

00:30:50.000 Like, she's hot.

00:30:52.000 She's hot and he looks like a man, so fucking let it ride. 0.99

00:30:56.000 If that movie was reversed and it was a young girl that all of a sudden was in a sexual woman's body and the guy was fucking her, she's like, I don't know.

00:31:03.000 Are we supposed to be doing this?

00:31:04.000 You would be horrified.

00:31:06.000 You would be absolutely horrified.

00:31:07.000 I've been arguing about, because of the Milo thing, I've been arguing about all this a lot.

00:31:11.000 And I've been getting from gays and guys without kids that are young this whole thing about how they keep saying, come on, don't lie. 0.87

00:31:19.000 You would definitely want to fuck a 13-year-old girl if she was hot. 1.00

00:31:22.000 And I go, I don't know where this became a normal sentence.

00:31:25.000 I fucked 17-year-olds when I was 17.

00:31:28.000 It was the worst sex. 1.00

00:31:30.000 Remember that?

00:31:31.000 And you'd be on top of her and it was out.

00:31:33.000 You didn't even know when it was in.

00:31:34.000 Nobody knew what was going on.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, it's not like they go, yeah, fucking oh.

00:31:39.000 They didn't like it till they were like 26.

00:31:43.000 I want pendulous breasts. 1.00

00:31:45.000 I want a divorcee with a neck pencil. 1.00

00:31:47.000 Pendulous, like worn out.

00:31:48.000 Just four pencils.

00:31:50.000 Hanging, hanging low.

00:31:51.000 Four.

00:31:52.000 I want them to look like cocks when she's on all fours. 1.00

00:31:55.000 And I want to see them, actually, I don't want to see them swing because I'll come if I look at them swinging.

00:32:01.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:32:02.000 I'm not talking about like a orange in a sock.

00:32:05.000 Okay.

00:32:06.000 I mean, like, it's got meat there, but they droop.

00:32:08.000 Like when you're fucking from behind, they go in circles. 0.86

00:32:08.000 Right. 0.86

00:32:12.000 Yes.

00:32:12.000 They've experienced life.

00:32:13.000 You don't want to play tennis with a toddler.

00:32:15.000 You want to play tennis with someone who can return a serve.

00:32:17.000 Yes.

00:32:18.000 Good point.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, I don't get that.

00:32:22.000 Yeah, come on. 0.77

00:32:23.000 You've never been attracted to a 15-year-old girl.

00:32:25.000 I really don't get that.

00:32:26.000 But I was molested by a woman when I was 13 years old.

00:32:31.000 Oh, shit.

00:32:31.000 When I was 13 years old, there was a woman that we used to play softball with on our block, and apparently she did that to a lot of boys.

00:32:39.000 And she took me up to her room.

00:32:40.000 She played me some really good music.

00:32:42.000 She introduced me to a lot of Led Zeppelin.

00:32:45.000 She introduced me to Comfortably Numb King Floyd.

00:32:49.000 This day, when I think about that song, I think about making out with her.

00:32:52.000 When she was 21, and I was 13.

00:32:54.000 Oh, she just kissed you?

00:32:55.000 No, she grabbed my dick, but I was just so little. 1.00

00:32:57.000 I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

00:32:59.000 No, no, I was so confused.

00:33:01.000 I was 13.

00:33:02.000 I was like a little boy.

00:33:04.000 You know, if she had caught me like a year or two later, I probably would have fucked her. 1.00

00:33:08.000 But at that stage, I was baffled because I had like zero sexual experience.

00:33:14.000 And then all of a sudden, a woman, a 21-year-old woman with tits who smoked cigarettes, and she was making out with me and taking me up to a room. 1.00

00:33:21.000 It was really weird.

00:33:22.000 And she had a boyfriend.

00:33:23.000 And her boyfriend was a construction worker.

00:33:25.000 And he was a man.

00:33:26.000 I remember seeing him like on the job.

00:33:28.000 He had a shirt off and he had a hairy chest.

00:33:29.000 I was like, what in the fuck?

00:33:31.000 And that was her boyfriend.

00:33:32.000 But she was just a wild woman. 0.99

00:33:35.000 And she apparently liked taking young boys that didn't know what they were doing and taking them up to her room. 0.99

00:33:42.000 You know, this is why we have judges because there's different cultures, different genders, different circumstances. 0.54

00:33:47.000 Every time I talk to a black guy about their first sexual experiences, my hair is whitened. 1.00

00:33:52.000 Why?

00:33:52.000 It's always like, yeah, I used to fuck my cousin when I was 12.

00:33:56.000 Like Chris Cotton was talking about fucking his cousin.

00:33:59.000 Who's Chris Cotton?

00:34:00.000 Comedian guy.

00:34:01.000 Dark as a piece of coal.

00:34:01.000 Okay.

00:34:03.000 He fucked his cousin.

00:34:04.000 Sherrod Small fucked his babysitter when he was like 11 or 12.

00:34:08.000 I've heard those stories before.

00:34:10.000 I've heard the babysitter story before, where it's like, you know, you're 13, she's 18, and next thing you know, you're making out with her.

00:34:18.000 Holy shit.

00:34:19.000 It's horrible.

00:34:19.000 But should she go to jail for 15 years?

00:34:22.000 Well, there's a big difference between an 18-year-old boy, rather, and an 18-year-old girl and a 13-year-old girl and a 13-year-old boy.

00:34:32.000 There's just a big goddamn difference.

00:34:34.000 If you have a grown woman and a 13-year-old boy, like, here's the thing. 0.56

00:34:38.000 Here's the big one.

00:34:39.000 And this is like, this is one of the things that came up in the Milo conversation too, where he was saying that it's not that big a deal if a man grabs a woman's tit and she doesn't want him to.

00:34:49.000 I'm like, well, that's sexual assault.

00:34:50.000 If a woman grabs my dick and I don't want her to, that might be sexual assault, but I'm not in danger.

00:34:57.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:34:58.000 She's not going to fuck me up.

00:34:59.000 She's not going to rape me. 0.99

00:35:00.000 And that's where it gets different.

00:35:01.000 Like, I'm not scared.

00:35:02.000 Like, if a woman came over and grabbed my ass, like, you probably shouldn't do that, but I'm not scared of you. 1.00

00:35:10.000 But if a man does that to a woman and he's willing to violate her space like that, a woman has a real fear.

00:35:16.000 There's a possibility the door might be open that this guy could rape her.

00:35:21.000 Right.

00:35:21.000 And this all comes down to the myth of equality.

00:35:23.000 And this is why the right has a more benevolent society than the left.

00:35:29.000 And I've noticed this with girls. 0.96

00:35:30.000 I've always said, you can hit a woman if she hits you 12 times.

00:35:34.000 That includes punches in the face.

00:35:35.000 So you just sit there going, one, two, three, four.

00:35:37.000 12.

00:35:38.000 And then 11, 12.

00:35:40.000 And then one.

00:35:41.000 I can't even hit one if they hit me 12.

00:35:43.000 I'd have to arm drag her, take her back, choke her. 1.00

00:35:46.000 You could choke a crazy woman who's trying to kill you, but you can't punch. 0.93

00:35:50.000 12.

00:35:51.000 I would only do it if I thought they were hurting someone in my family.

00:35:54.000 When I talk to feminists and liberals about this, they go, 12, 1. 0.98

00:35:58.000 And I go, what?

00:35:58.000 What?

00:35:59.000 You know we're stronger than you, right?

00:36:01.000 They don't want to admit that.

00:36:02.000 And it's the same with gays. 0.99

00:36:02.000 They don't want to admit that. 0.99

00:36:04.000 it's the same like I was writing about you Yeah.

00:36:09.000 And I'm looking at that.

00:36:10.000 That was Kimbo Slice is in that.

00:36:12.000 And I'm data 5,000.

00:36:14.000 Data 5,000.

00:36:15.000 And I'm looking at it going, you guys were murdering each other on the streets.

00:36:19.000 You figured out a way to solve it with fights, backyard fighting.

00:36:23.000 You shouldn't have the same enforcement as rich white kids doing it in the suburbs.

00:36:29.000 Or at least that's what your instincts are when you see that.

00:36:31.000 Now, that doesn't make sense.

00:36:32.000 The laws should be equitable across the board.

00:36:35.000 But you go, this is a different situation.

00:36:36.000 They're in a shitty situation.

00:36:38.000 They're murdering each other.

00:36:39.000 These backyard fights, sure, someone loses an eye, but they're not murdering each other anymore.

00:36:43.000 It's an improvement.

00:36:44.000 And you go, I don't know how to enforce this.

00:36:46.000 I don't know how it's done.

00:36:48.000 But you feel like there should be different laws for different people.

00:36:50.000 And when you say we're all exactly the same, well, the next thing you know, women are getting punched one-on-one and they're not as strong as men, so they're getting fucking beaten up.

00:36:59.000 Or you're telling women they're invincible. 1.00

00:37:01.000 They're going out and getting shit-faced like you and I do.

00:37:04.000 And you go, no, you're a Lamborghini.

00:37:07.000 You can't get wasted.

00:37:09.000 You're delicate.

00:37:10.000 I'm a fucking cheap old 57 Chevy.

00:37:13.000 Beat me up.

00:37:14.000 Right, right, right.

00:37:16.000 Well, there's a narrative, whether or not people are aware of it, but there is something that is actually being thrown around as being a viable narrative.

00:37:26.000 And that is that there's no biological difference between men and women.

00:37:31.000 There's no biological difference between the sexes.

00:37:34.000 And when you see people say it, I saw, there was a debate that Jordan Peterson had, and one of the people that he was debating was a professor from the University of Toronto.

00:37:47.000 And it was a gender equality professor or something along that, some bizarre discipline.

00:37:53.000 And I think it was a transgender man.

00:37:57.000 Like she was born a woman, and then she's a man. 0.75

00:37:59.000 Or maybe, yeah, I'm pretty sure.

00:38:01.000 I'm not sure.

00:38:02.000 But it seems like it.

00:38:03.000 Anyway, it's a very feminine man, whatever it is. 0.55

00:38:06.000 And it seems like a woman that became a man.

00:38:09.000 And it, she, he, whichever, however, Z. Z. Z. Whatever. 0.63

00:38:15.000 Z. And literally arguing, knowing that this is going to be broadcast, knowing this is going to be on television, on the internet, saying that there's no difference.

00:38:26.000 There's no biological basis.

00:38:29.000 Like, that's insane.

00:38:31.000 There's no difference between men and women. 1.00

00:38:34.000 It is absolutely insane.

00:38:36.000 It's absolutely insane.

00:38:38.000 There are no women who come anywhere near what men powerlifters can do.

00:38:43.000 They don't come anywhere near.

00:38:45.000 They might be stronger than you or I. They might, because they're doing it for a long time and they're taking steroids.

00:38:50.000 But even the women who take steroids, they're nowhere near as strong as the men. 0.98

00:38:54.000 It's not even close.

00:38:55.000 There's no women who are in the NFL. 1.00

00:38:57.000 There's no women heavyweight boxing champions. 1.00

00:38:59.000 They're Never going to beat the men.

00:39:01.000 There's absolutely a biological basis in sex.

00:39:04.000 I have trained extensively with women in martial arts, extensively.

00:39:09.000 There is an enormous difference in how hard they hit.

00:39:13.000 There's an enormous difference in how strong they are.

00:39:15.000 I feel like I could beat them up.

00:39:17.000 There's a lot who would fuck you up.

00:39:18.000 I feel like I couldn't beat up Ronda Rousey, but I feel like I could beat up the base.

00:39:22.000 No, a lot of them.

00:39:23.000 The featherweights.

00:39:24.000 Most of them would fuck you up.

00:39:25.000 But it's just a technique thing.

00:39:27.000 You know, if you had trained as long as them, they would be in trouble.

00:39:31.000 It's just, there's a lot of factors.

00:39:33.000 Well, you gotta shit for saying it.

00:39:35.000 Yes.

00:39:35.000 Well, I gotten shit for saying it because there was a man who transitioned to a woman after 30 years of being a woman, after fathering a child, being in the military, the whole deal, living life as a man, became a woman for two years and then started having MMA fights with women and not telling them that he was a woman for 30 years or she was a woman for 30 years and then became a woman.

00:39:56.000 I'm like, that's fucking crazy.

00:39:58.000 And the structure of the body is different.

00:39:59.000 The hips are different.

00:40:00.000 The jaw is different.

00:40:01.000 The size of the hands is different.

00:40:04.000 The size of the fists is an enormous difference between the power that a man can generate.

00:40:08.000 When I see that tranny pounding the living shit out of a woman, looks like domestic violence. 1.00

00:40:12.000 It's disturbing.

00:40:13.000 And I see it on the TV and I go, there you go, liberals.

00:40:16.000 There's your utopia.

00:40:17.000 What do you think?

00:40:19.000 And that's the problem with their utopia.

00:40:21.000 It keeps making things worse and worse and worse for them.

00:40:24.000 Yes.

00:40:25.000 Like even abortion and immigration. 0.85

00:40:27.000 In Canada now, they're pouring all these Indians in like pancake batter. 1.00

00:40:31.000 And Indians prefer to have boys than girls. 1.00

00:40:35.000 And they're starting to have gender-based abortions where they go, I don't want to have a boy. 1.00

00:40:40.000 I mean, a girl hanging around here.

00:40:43.000 Let's keep aborting till we get a boy. 1.00

00:40:45.000 And you go, hey, liberals.

00:40:47.000 Yeah.

00:40:47.000 Is that real?

00:40:48.000 Hey, liberals, it's mostly with immigrants, but it's the beginning of ethnic genocide. 0.69

00:40:54.000 And you go, hey, feminists, your pro-choice shit is getting you fucking killed. 1.00

00:40:57.000 Well, that wasn't.

00:40:58.000 You're going to become the next retards. 1.00

00:41:00.000 That wasn't the reason why they wanted it in the first place.

00:41:04.000 They just wanted the right to choose.

00:41:05.000 They didn't want someone to tell them.

00:41:06.000 And particularly in the most extreme cases, like if a woman's raped.

00:41:10.000 Like if a woman's raped and she gets pregnant, she should not have to keep that baby.

00:41:14.000 They're taking freak exceptions.

00:41:16.000 But that is the freak exceptions.

00:41:17.000 I'm sick of that.

00:41:17.000 I'm sick of freak exceptions defining policies.

00:41:20.000 Okay, but would you be fine with those freak exceptions being law?

00:41:27.000 Like if you're a pro-life person, right?

00:41:30.000 Sure.

00:41:30.000 That's your stance?

00:41:31.000 Okay.

00:41:32.000 Would you be pro-choice if a woman was raped?

00:41:35.000 I'm not doing that anymore.

00:41:36.000 No?

00:41:36.000 No.

00:41:37.000 What do you mean?

00:41:38.000 I'm not playing that game anymore.

00:41:39.000 Okay.

00:41:39.000 I'm not trying to play it anymore.

00:41:40.000 You know what they do?

00:41:41.000 I know.

00:41:42.000 The other version of that is the your daughter.

00:41:44.000 They always inevitably, especially with journalists, I'll be talking about sexism, blah, blah, blah.

00:41:49.000 And they'll go, what if your daughter was blah, blah, blah.

00:41:52.000 And I go, you're trying to make me irrational by bringing my daughter.

00:41:56.000 I'm not accusing you of this, but it's like these liberals have these tricks where like, what if a girl was raped by her father and she got pregnant?

00:42:02.000 And I looked it up.

00:42:03.000 I could only find one case, one case in America of a father impregnating a daughter.

00:42:09.000 And I thought, this freak occurrence keeps defining the whole debate.

00:42:13.000 We got Kermit Gosnell killing 40,000 babies that were in their third trimester. 0.91

00:42:18.000 Yet this one freak occurred.

00:42:21.000 He was the guy, he was arrested for performing late-term abortions, and they discovered that it was...

00:42:36.000 Now, I understand what you're saying, that you don't want to get roped into any crazy sort of hypothetical scenario where you say, what if it was your daughter and she was raped by some convict who just got out of children?

00:42:48.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:42:49.000 Yeah, I know you don't want to get into that, but in certain circumstances, I really think there is a difference between someone who's pregnant for three weeks and someone who's pregnant for five months.

00:43:03.000 There's a big difference.

00:43:04.000 Yeah, look, with abortion, I just want to get it away from 17 weeks. 0.98

00:43:13.000 I want to get the whole argument down to eight weeks.

00:43:17.000 Okay.

00:43:17.000 That's my goal.

00:43:18.000 And I have friends in New York City where everyone has to think outside the box, and they're all like, yeah, it's murder, and I'm for it.

00:43:24.000 Like, Jim Goad says that all the time.

00:43:27.000 Anthony Kumia says that.

00:43:28.000 It's murder, and I think it's awesome.

00:43:30.000 Well, that's because he doesn't want to be responsible, and he fucks a lot of crazy girls. 1.00

00:43:35.000 That's really the problem.

00:43:37.000 I mean, I've been super fortunate that the person that I had babies with, I love.

00:43:43.000 Yeah.

00:43:44.000 Well, is it fortunate?

00:43:45.000 I mean, Kumia has got to take a lot of blame for the shit he got in recently.

00:43:50.000 We all told him to get the fuck away from her.

00:43:52.000 And he kept walking back into the fire.

00:43:54.000 It's fun.

00:43:55.000 And I would see him with her, and it was like a fucking rape victim being with their rapists.

00:44:00.000 Like, I go, oh, what is that doing here?

00:44:03.000 And she'd have thigh-high stockings on, thigh-heeled shoes.

00:44:06.000 And I'm just like, time to fuck.

00:44:08.000 I can get you a 35-year-old.

00:44:10.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:44:12.000 They're not fun.

00:44:13.000 I have a friend, my friend Tony, Tony Zara from Columbus, Ohio, good buddy of mine, who's a great guy, but he's also a wise man.

00:44:21.000 And he has had this theory about psychotic and erotic.

00:44:25.000 And that they're almost basically almost interchangeable, that they sort of rotate on each other's axis.

00:44:32.000 And that when you get, like, we've all had gals from the past that were just like, whoa, you know, you leave their apartment, you go, holy shit. 1.00

00:44:40.000 Like, I got to take a shower.

00:44:42.000 I got to cool down.

00:44:43.000 Yeah.

00:44:43.000 Jasmine.

00:44:44.000 And then they start, you know, calling you later, like, come over and fuck my mouth. 0.99

00:44:47.000 Like, what?

00:44:48.000 Jesus Christ.

00:44:49.000 Like, the crazy ones.

00:44:51.000 The ones who want you to take a teaspoon and scoop the cum off their face so they can get it all in their mouth. 0.99

00:44:56.000 And you're like, this is only going to happen once in my entire life, but here we go.

00:45:00.000 And those girls exist. 1.00

00:45:02.000 And some of them are really fun.

00:45:04.000 And when you're a guy and you're used to girls that are like, no, don't come in my mouth. 1.00

00:45:08.000 No, don't touch me there.

00:45:10.000 No, I'm not.

00:45:10.000 You know, there's like some, so many people are so reserved and so restricted and so confined.

00:45:17.000 And then you date some crazy girl and she's just wild. 0.95

00:45:21.000 She's like, put it in my ass. 0.99

00:45:22.000 You're like, whoa, where are we going?

00:45:25.000 With Anthony, she was that and then some and already was like framing little kids who were at the house.

00:45:34.000 Like, I think she got, one of them got marker on him and, or she, she put sparkles in his hair or something.

00:45:39.000 And the mother goes, what the hell's going on with your hair?

00:45:40.000 You got, that's going to take forever to get out.

00:45:42.000 And she goes, It was her, and blamed some 10-year-old evil, evil, dark shit she had done. 0.82

00:45:48.000 But that being said, so that's going too far, but I do agree wholeheartedly.

00:45:52.000 And when my friends tell me they dump some bitch because she's crazy, I get mad at them because I go, you crazy bitches are the best sex you'll ever have in your life. 1.00

00:46:00.000 If she's not calling the cops, then keep fucking her. 1.00

00:46:04.000 But that's, well, you're hypocritical then.

00:46:06.000 Because that's Anthony's.

00:46:07.000 That's the game.

00:46:08.000 It's the balance.

00:46:09.000 Get to the point where they call the cops.

00:46:10.000 Sex should be right before the, you should see the judge in the room floating above your head going with the gavel like, I'm not sure not yet.

00:46:21.000 See, nobody wants to say that.

00:46:23.000 And there is a reality.

00:46:25.000 And here's another reality, a super uncomfortable reality.

00:46:28.000 And this is in no, I want to just get real clear about this.

00:46:30.000 This is in no way condoning any form of rape or any form of sexual assault or any form of doing anything to anyone, male or female, against their will.

00:46:42.000 That said, there are women who undeniably have rape fantasies. 1.00

00:46:48.000 Yes.

00:46:49.000 So what's that?

00:46:51.000 Margaret Atwood talks about that and she says, yes, but in our rape fantasies, it's not a guy with a ski mask who jumps out of a bush, fat and ugly.

00:46:59.000 It's Mr. Clean.

00:47:01.000 And he's cleaning our house and then he says, hey, I want to make love to you.

00:47:04.000 And you're going, no, no.

00:47:06.000 Yeah.

00:47:06.000 But even that's her, though.

00:47:08.000 Some women, it's a guy comes in with a gun and makes her suck his dick. 1.00

00:47:13.000 I've had a friend who, that was her thing.

00:47:15.000 Well, we've all, everyone, Louis C.K. does a bit about that.

00:47:17.000 We've all had women where they're like, no, no, no. 1.00

00:47:20.000 And then you stop and they go, you find out the next day, no, no, you were supposed to.

00:47:23.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:47:24.000 Louis had that thing like, I'm not going to take a chance to find out if it's your thing.

00:47:31.000 I got an email, I talk about this all the time, but I got an email from a girl that said, thank you for raping me last night. 1.00

00:47:36.000 Oh, but that might be silly.

00:47:38.000 Well, girls. 0.62

00:47:39.000 Something I always say like that, and they might be joking around.

00:47:42.000 Oh, yes, of course she was.

00:47:43.000 But that was her way of saying you got right to the line.

00:47:45.000 But I noticed this when I moved to New York, too.

00:47:48.000 I went to college in the 90s when it was about permission and feminism. 1.00

00:47:51.000 So I tried that.

00:47:52.000 I was like, is this okay?

00:47:54.000 Is this okay?

00:47:54.000 You were a feminist.

00:47:55.000 And let's be clear about that.

00:47:56.000 You were a feminist at one point in your life. 1.00

00:47:57.000 Would you define yourself as a feminist? 1.00

00:47:59.000 I still would in many ways.

00:48:00.000 I see them as magical, sentient beings.

00:48:02.000 They're wizards.

00:48:03.000 They can make a fucking person come out of their cunt. 1.00

00:48:07.000 And to say they're dudes is to trivialize.

00:48:10.000 It's like saying to Clark Kent, just be a journalist.

00:48:13.000 Just focus on your journalism.

00:48:14.000 And Clark Kent's a shitty journalist.

00:48:16.000 You're a shitty man.

00:48:17.000 Does he have one story that he's born in the broken street?

00:48:18.000 He's never broken a story ever.

00:48:20.000 He's turned time backwards.

00:48:22.000 Oh, that's right.

00:48:22.000 But he's never broken a story.

00:48:23.000 But we keep telling women, no, no, no, come to our meetings. 1.00

00:48:26.000 Come to our tough mutter relay and walk through electrical wires and go underneath barbed wire.

00:48:31.000 That's so nasty.

00:48:31.000 You're so good at that.

00:48:32.000 By the way, you tough mutter people, that fucking water you would never drink. 1.00

00:48:36.000 You would never drink puddle water, right?

00:48:38.000 Right?

00:48:39.000 Yeah, of course you wouldn't.

00:48:40.000 Well, guess what, fuckface? 0.97

00:48:41.000 You're getting that water in your mouth.

00:48:43.000 When you're crawling around, that same shit that you would get in your intestinal tract, you're going to get in your mouth and you're going to get sick as fuck, okay?

00:48:50.000 So be goddamn careful when you're doing those things.

00:48:52.000 Seems like a weird beef to have.

00:48:54.000 Well, I know so many people.

00:48:56.000 Tough mudder people, the puddles are way too bacteria and functionality. 1.00

00:49:00.000 You got to be really careful about drinking puddle water.

00:49:02.000 Like, I know guys have gotten jardia.

00:49:04.000 They've gotten like some serious intestinal disorders from drinking water.

00:49:08.000 Yeah, well, you're out in the mountains.

00:49:09.000 You go out in the mountains and like they don't bring water with them or their water filter breaks or they put these iodine tablets in the water, but they don't wait long enough.

00:49:18.000 And you're getting these live bacteria in your body and they wreak havoc with your system.

00:49:18.000 Then they drink it.

00:49:23.000 I mean, put you out for months.

00:49:25.000 Okay, okay.

00:49:25.000 I won't drink puddle water, please.

00:49:28.000 So anyway, you're fucking chicks. 1.00

00:49:29.000 And through trial and error, there's that time you're around 24 and you're fucking a girl from behind and you go, yeah, you like that? 0.92

00:49:38.000 And you go, I'm going to try a dad thing.

00:49:40.000 And then you go, who's your dad?

00:49:41.000 Yeah, you like that?

00:49:42.000 Daddy's fucking. 0.74

00:49:43.000 And then all of a sudden, pussy juice galore. 1.00

00:49:47.000 And she's coming and you go, oh, okay.

00:49:49.000 I'm going to keep mining this vein.

00:49:52.000 Right.

00:49:53.000 And then I was like, I'm your father, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:55.000 You start saying shit like that.

00:49:56.000 And then you start choke.

00:49:57.000 And then you come to New York and Jewish girls in New York, they're like, choke me, kill me. 1.00

00:50:01.000 I'm a fucking whore.

00:50:03.000 What?

00:50:04.000 All right.

00:50:04.000 Slap me.

00:50:05.000 And you're like, like that?

00:50:07.000 No harder, you fucking pussy. 1.00

00:50:10.000 See, those girls never made their way to me. 1.00

00:50:14.000 Oh, really?

00:50:14.000 Yeah.

00:50:14.000 You fuck girls in New York?

00:50:16.000 No, well, I did, but I think I, I don't know.

00:50:21.000 Maybe, I don't know, man.

00:50:23.000 Maybe I just shied away from them or something like that.

00:50:26.000 I had some domestic violence in my house when I was growing up.

00:50:28.000 So any kind of weird shit like that.

00:50:29.000 I was like, well, that's kind of what I'm saying.

00:50:31.000 We don't naturally go there.

00:50:32.000 We're sweeties.

00:50:33.000 I had one girl that liked to get choked, though, but it always weirded me out.

00:50:37.000 We're not that enthusiastic about it.

00:50:39.000 But if they wanted us to dress like clowns, I would put on the little nose.

00:50:43.000 Yeah, it is.

00:50:44.000 You get into it after a while.

00:50:45.000 You realize it's awesome.

00:50:46.000 You don't want to get choked by someone who knows how to choke you, though.

00:50:49.000 You want to get choked by someone who's ineffective, like a sloppy choke where you could still breathe.

00:50:54.000 Well, I remember I was fucking this Jewish girl and she was, she said, kill me.

00:50:58.000 Whoa, jeez.

00:50:59.000 And obviously I didn't do that.

00:51:01.000 And then she's like, I'm your fucking whore. 1.00

00:51:02.000 And so I'm coming on her.

00:51:03.000 She's like, I'm your dirty whore. 1.00

00:51:04.000 Whoa.

00:51:05.000 And then she's having a cigarette after, and she goes, I brought your whore, by the way. 1.00

00:51:10.000 And I was like, duh.

00:51:12.000 And I thought the liberals now are ruining that whole role-playing fun game that we all play.

00:51:18.000 And sex is a nebulous.

00:51:19.000 It's like religion. 0.67

00:51:20.000 It's personal.

00:51:20.000 It's private.

00:51:21.000 It's a weird area where you do weird things.

00:51:24.000 You say stupid shit.

00:51:25.000 Like, I want to lick your cock because you're thinking, I want to, you just suck my cock and I want to lick your pussy. 1.00

00:51:30.000 But you're so horny, your brain goes, yeah, I want to lick your balls. 1.00

00:51:34.000 No, when you lick my balls, sorry. 0.99

00:51:40.000 Yeah, dirty talk is so awkward.

00:51:42.000 It's so fucking stupid.

00:51:44.000 I just can do like so good, love it, heaven.

00:51:47.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 Those are my only lines.

00:51:53.000 But it's also like when you're intimate with someone, it's like you're sharing that extremely vulnerable Moment.

00:52:00.000 I mean, it's look, it's vulnerable by nature because you don't have your clothes on.

00:52:03.000 You know, and just you feel weird.

00:52:05.000 You know, we always have our clothes on.

00:52:06.000 So we don't have our clothes on.

00:52:07.000 It's just odd.

00:52:08.000 You know, and men look funny, nude.

00:52:10.000 Yeah, you're funny.

00:52:12.000 You look funny and you're aroused and it feels good.

00:52:14.000 And you want the other person to feel good.

00:52:17.000 You feel good to each other.

00:52:18.000 And it's just, you look in each other's eyes and you're like that close.

00:52:21.000 It's like, it's very strange.

00:52:23.000 And there's also the issue that people become very addicted to each other.

00:52:28.000 I think human beings, especially when they're having sex with each other, it's just like a drug addiction.

00:52:33.000 I mean, I remember the first time.

00:52:34.000 I know love is.

00:52:35.000 In a lot of ways.

00:52:36.000 I think it is.

00:52:37.000 I think there's a lot of endorphins that are being exchanged and there's a lot of arousal chemicals that are excreted when you're with that person that are extremely potent.

00:52:47.000 And when the person's not there, there's this deep need to get to that person again, just like a drug, just like someone who's got hooked on pain pills and you just, you have to get the pills.

00:52:58.000 You got to get the pills.

00:53:00.000 And I remember when I was in, when I was like 18, my girlfriend broke up with me and I just graduated from high school and I was really lost and confused.

00:53:07.000 And when she broke up with me, I was devastated.

00:53:10.000 I couldn't believe I had to be without her.

00:53:12.000 And it was very much like withdrawal from a drug.

00:53:16.000 It was like probably the worst breakup for me ever because it was the first one, you know, and I was like, I can't believe this.

00:53:22.000 Like, this is crazy.

00:53:23.000 And then I just was amazed at like how potent it was on my system, you know, and how it would fuck with my psyche and my mind.

00:53:31.000 I felt like a loser.

00:53:32.000 I felt like if this girl didn't want me, like I must be a fool.

00:53:35.000 I must be a failure.

00:53:37.000 Yep.

00:53:38.000 Well, that's the, we've all had that.

00:53:40.000 And that's when you learn never to be vulnerable again.

00:53:41.000 And you learn to be a man.

00:53:43.000 Sort of, but you also learn, to me, I've always been fascinated by psychology and fascinated by the inner workings of the mind and the tricks the mind plays on you.

00:53:52.000 Because all throughout high school, from age 15 on, I was competing in martial arts tournaments and they were terrifying.

00:53:59.000 You know, and so I was always scared.

00:54:01.000 And I would go from, I mean, I'd like to say that, oh, I was this bad motherfucker.

00:54:04.000 I wasn't scared of shit.

00:54:05.000 I was scared of fucking everything, man.

00:54:07.000 That's why I was good.

00:54:08.000 Because I was terrified.

00:54:10.000 And I was always training super hard.

00:54:12.000 And I wouldn't drink, and I wouldn't do anything.

00:54:14.000 I wouldn't, I smoked pot maybe a couple of times because I was fucking scared of getting killed.

00:54:19.000 I was scared of getting my ass kicked.

00:54:20.000 So when this happened and this girl broke up with me, it was so just devastating to my confidence.

00:54:29.000 And I remember thinking, like, God, why do I feel like such a fucking loser?

00:54:32.000 And then breaking it down and trying to figure like, how was I a winner just like a few months ago?

00:54:38.000 And now I'm a loser.

00:54:39.000 Like in my mind, I feel like a fucking loser and I can't get laid.

00:54:42.000 Girls smell desperation on me. 1.00

00:54:44.000 They run from me like, ah, like 18-year-old girls, when you're desperate, they fucking, you stink like a sewer and they run from you. 1.00

00:54:53.000 I couldn't get laid for like six months.

00:54:54.000 I couldn't even get close.

00:54:56.000 It's nature.

00:54:57.000 You played yourself.

00:54:58.000 You learned to never do that again.

00:54:58.000 You were vulnerable.

00:55:00.000 And I think adult men, especially married men, have to understand that you're constantly in high school when you're married.

00:55:07.000 Dale Aiken, when I was eight years old, he said, dude, when you're married, you can just go up to your wife and go, let me see your tits. 1.00

00:55:14.000 And she has to show you her tits right there. 1.00

00:55:16.000 And I thought, I cannot fucking wait.

00:55:18.000 I remember saying to him, I'm just going to put my face in her vagina and just go, boo. 1.00

00:55:24.000 But you can't do that.

00:55:25.000 If I went up to my wife and said, show me your tits, she'd say, fuck off. 1.00

00:55:27.000 So you're constantly wooing them and courting them.

00:55:29.000 And I had a buddy who got divorced recently and he said, I just found myself having to draw lines in the sand and make these parameters around how I can be treated and how I can be spoken to.

00:55:38.000 And he goes, I've never had to do that before.

00:55:40.000 And I go, dude, that's what marriage is.

00:55:40.000 I shouldn't have to do that.

00:55:42.000 You're constantly on a date.

00:55:43.000 I was on a date with my wife last night.

00:55:46.000 We got a hotel in the city.

00:55:47.000 My kids are staying with their grand.

00:55:49.000 We're here on vacation in Malibu.

00:55:51.000 And I was constantly going, all right, I wanted her to have a good night.

00:55:55.000 She wants to get tacos. 1.00

00:55:56.000 But also I have to draw the line and say, no, actually, we're going here.

00:55:59.000 We're going to the comedy store.

00:56:00.000 We're going to meet Don Barris and go upstairs and blah, blah, blah.

00:56:03.000 So I was giving her some democracy, but also taking the reins. 0.70

00:56:06.000 And it's a push and pull that we've been married, we've known each other since 2001, but it's constantly like this first date, trying to get in her pants, watch the real housewives, pretend I care about that chick who has Pinot Grigio all the time.

00:56:19.000 Always trying to get pussy. 1.00

00:56:22.000 You're not guaranteed the pussy. 1.00

00:56:24.000 No, if you are, you have a very strange relationship, and you're probably not going to be satisfied with it because that's part of what's going on in a relationship is that wooing is also like kind of that wooing and courting and being nice to each other.

00:56:36.000 It's very important to like how the whole thing works.

00:56:39.000 Yes.

00:56:39.000 It's what attracts, like we were in Costa Rica on those stupid Sansa flights that are one engine.

00:56:45.000 So if it goes out, we're dying.

00:56:46.000 And the turbulence was insane.

00:56:48.000 And so she's gripping me and I'm like, it's okay.

00:56:50.000 It's just a bus.

00:56:51.000 We're in a bus in the sky.

00:56:52.000 I am shitting my pants with fear.

00:56:55.000 My heart is pounding through my chest and I'm holding her, rationally explaining to her what is going on.

00:56:59.000 And then I'm looking out the window going, holy fuck, we're going to fucking die.

00:57:01.000 We're going to fucking die.

00:57:02.000 Holy shit.

00:57:03.000 And I, still married to her for years.

00:57:04.000 We got kids.

00:57:05.000 I have to convey this man in order to keep her pussy wet. 1.00

00:57:10.000 And it's the same with sons particularly, but kids in general.

00:57:14.000 But so much of being a dad is being a prison warden.

00:57:17.000 And even after bedtime, you're walking down the hallways to see if lights are on.

00:57:21.000 The other day, I go into my son's, my middle son's room, I touch the light bulb, his reading light, and I can feel it's warm.

00:57:28.000 I'm like, what's going on in here?

00:57:29.000 Were you reading?

00:57:31.000 He's like, yeah, a little bit.

00:57:32.000 Bedtime is bedtime.

00:57:34.000 And I'm back with my little fucking, it was 10.30 at night and he's reading Mad Magic.

00:57:38.000 He has one of those blackjacks. 1.00

00:57:40.000 Blackjacks were a thing when I was a kid. 1.00

00:57:42.000 Cops had them.

00:57:43.000 Remember, it was like, it was a leather paddle with a red shot in it.

00:57:48.000 Yeah, and they would whack people with it.

00:57:50.000 It's a really shitty weapon because it only hurts.

00:57:54.000 I guess you can knock someone out if you hit them on the jaw or the back of their head.

00:57:57.000 But if you're covering up and someone's whacking you with that blackjack, I'll take a shot with a blackjack to try to get a hold of you. 1.00

00:58:05.000 But like a club, like a club or a baton, like that's going to really fucking hurt.

00:58:09.000 A blackjack is weird. 0.97

00:58:11.000 It's a weird weapon.

00:58:12.000 It kind of went away.

00:58:13.000 They're like, yeah, this isn't the best thing to be carrying around.

00:58:16.000 I remember that to get one of those aerial sort of antenna things.

00:58:19.000 Those are dangerous.

00:58:20.000 The cops tell me I'm not allowed to have that.

00:58:21.000 You can have a leather man.

00:58:22.000 You can buy those.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, but you're not allowed to have it on you.

00:58:24.000 Leatherman and pepper spray and a mag light flashlight you can have.

00:58:29.000 Wait a minute.

00:58:30.000 so concealed carry, meaning walking around, you're not allowed to have one of those, but you're allowed to have a knife.

00:58:35.000 You can have a knife if it's a utility knife, and it's smaller than the palm of your hand.

00:58:39.000 I'm talking about New York rules.

00:58:41.000 Right.

00:58:42.000 And then at NYU, I was going to do that talk.

00:58:44.000 I got pepper sprayed, perfectly legal, if they can argue that. 1.00

00:58:46.000 Now, who pepper sprayed you, and did you see the person doing it, and do you know who they are?

00:58:50.000 They are all the same.

00:58:52.000 They're all middle-class kids of professors.

00:58:56.000 They all live at home.

00:58:57.000 They all look exactly the same.

00:58:58.000 They look British.

00:59:00.000 How do they look British? 1.00

00:59:01.000 They have like these angular features and these Roman noses and glasses.

00:59:01.000 I don't know.

00:59:04.000 They all seem to look exactly the same.

00:59:06.000 There's nothing Italian about them, you know? 1.00

00:59:08.000 Now, what was it that they pepper-sprayed you about?

00:59:11.000 Were you actually just?

00:59:15.000 I started this gang called the Proud Boys.

00:59:18.000 The Proud Boys?

00:59:19.000 The Proud Boys.

00:59:20.000 What's Proud Boys about?

00:59:22.000 We have chapters all over the world.

00:59:24.000 We meet once a month.

00:59:26.000 We get drunk and just Okay.

00:59:31.000 Like Masons or whatever.

00:59:32.000 Celebrating manhood.

00:59:34.000 Yeah, no woman allowed. 1.00

00:59:35.000 Ah, wow.

00:59:36.000 You can't tell your woman what goes on at the meetings. 1.00

00:59:38.000 And we have different degrees like the Knights of Columbus.

00:59:40.000 First degree, you declare yourself a proud boy.

00:59:42.000 Second degree, we beat the shit out of you until you can name five breakfast cereals. 0.99

00:59:45.000 And you have to give up masturbating.

00:59:48.000 And then third degree, you still have to give up masturbating, but you have to get a tattoo.

00:59:51.000 And then fourth degree, you get arrested or in a serious violent fight for the crime.

00:59:55.000 Really?

00:59:56.000 Yes.

00:59:56.000 You get arrested in a serious violent fight, so you're promoting some sort of major altercation.

01:00:02.000 You shouldn't, you should erase that part.

01:00:04.000 Well, we don't encourage it, but if you're defending, like at the Berkeley thing with Milo, my guys, 14 of them just walked into a mob of 200 people and said, I thought you guys were tough.

01:00:17.000 No, they were doing it just for fun.

01:00:20.000 And these people outside of pepper spray and clubs, they can't fight.

01:00:24.000 Like at the NYU thing, my guys were beating them up.

01:00:26.000 And he goes, this one guy we call Friar Tuck because he's just a monster.

01:00:30.000 He goes, I started feeling batting it.

01:00:32.000 I started feeling bad after a while because I was just, I could tell these kids had never been in a fight.

01:00:36.000 And I was just mowing through them.

01:00:39.000 They're terrible fighters.

01:00:40.000 They're totally pussy. 1.00

01:00:42.000 Like, this is what confuses me.

01:00:43.000 Like, why are they getting so angry that they're hitting people and spraying that girl in the face?

01:00:48.000 The girl was really disturbing because she was talking to someone. 0.95

01:00:51.000 She wasn't offering any threat.

01:00:52.000 And she had a hat that looked like a Make America Great Again hat, but it said Make Bitcoin Great Again.

01:00:58.000 They walk up to her.

01:00:59.000 The guy hits her with a stick that's holding a sign.

01:01:02.000 So he hits her in the head with a piece of wood. 0.56

01:01:04.000 And she's like, what the fuck?

01:01:06.000 And someone sprays her in the face with pepper spray. 0.53

01:01:08.000 I mean, it's like, how, in any way, how could you ever, in any other scenario, justify beating a woman publicly for doing nothing but representing what you think is offensive?

01:01:23.000 And you're even wrong about what she's representing.

01:01:26.000 Here's the problem with what you're doing, and I did this too much too.

01:01:29.000 You're intellectualizing a fashion movement.

01:01:32.000 This is the mods and the rockers in Brighton Beach in 1961, just fighting each other because one likes Elvis and the other likes the Who.

01:01:41.000 And if you were to sit down with this mod and this rocker and say, have a debate, they wouldn't say anything.

01:01:45.000 They have nothing to say.

01:01:46.000 It's leather versus parkas.

01:01:48.000 It's Vespas versus Triumph Motorbikes.

01:01:51.000 There's no context there.

01:01:52.000 So this guy is on this team and she's on the other team.

01:01:55.000 And their tool is Pepper Spray.

01:01:57.000 And that's what they're doing.

01:01:58.000 There's no, that's, they pretend, oh, I don't want to give you a platform.

01:02:01.000 No, they don't want to give you anything because they don't have anything to say.

01:02:05.000 In fact, at the NYU talk, after I watched the Pepper Spray, I went and did the talk.

01:02:09.000 They're all screaming, who's campus are campus?

01:02:12.000 And I walk over to the mob with a microphone, and I have two, and I go, come on up, come on up.

01:02:17.000 It was a radioactive cock I was handing him.

01:02:20.000 Like he just went, uh.

01:02:21.000 Because it was a mic.

01:02:22.000 He shriveled up.

01:02:23.000 Because he wanted to be a part of the big group.

01:02:25.000 Right.

01:02:26.000 And didn't want to be an individual with an opinion and didn't exactly know why he was there in the first place.

01:02:31.000 Didn't exactly know what he was protesting against.

01:02:33.000 That's why, like, Milo would kill to debate any of these people.

01:02:36.000 He's been scrounging.

01:02:37.000 Isn't that the real problem?

01:02:39.000 Is that they're not debating.

01:02:41.000 That's the real problem.

01:02:42.000 I feel like this could be really productive if people could sit down.

01:02:46.000 And Milo, by the way, will debate you.

01:02:48.000 I mean, he might say outrageous things.

01:02:50.000 He might say offensive things, but he will debate.

01:02:53.000 He will sit in front of a podium.

01:02:54.000 He will do his time.

01:02:55.000 And anyone else that will have their time and they will be able to take questions from the audience.

01:03:00.000 And this could be very productive.

01:03:02.000 And you could kind of figure out, like, look, you and I are not far left.

01:03:06.000 And we're not far right.

01:03:08.000 You know, neither one of us are.

01:03:09.000 We're in some sort of a weird way.

01:03:12.000 I think I'm maybe more left than you are, but I'm not as left as a lot of people I know.

01:03:16.000 And there's a lot of people out there.

01:03:18.000 And I think this left-white-right paradigm is really kind of fucking foolish at this point.

01:03:22.000 And we should kind of figure out, like, what kind of opinions are okay to have because they don't interfere with anybody else's life.

01:03:30.000 And it's just your philosophy and the way you look at the world.

01:03:33.000 And you should be able to express that opinion and express those ideas in front of someone else who has an opposing idea.

01:03:38.000 And they tell you why they disagree.

01:03:40.000 And you should be able to consider why they disagree and see if there's any merit in that.

01:03:45.000 The problem with what you're saying is you're implying that these are all informed people, right and left, and they need to hash out ideas.

01:03:51.000 No.

01:03:52.000 These people on the right are intelligent people who have looked it up and want a debate.

01:03:57.000 You want to see a good debate?

01:03:58.000 Look at Pat Buchanan versus Sean Hannity or Peter Brimelow versus some open borders libertarian like Matt Walsh or something or someone from the Wall Street Journal.

01:04:09.000 All the inner right fights are fascinating to me.

01:04:12.000 These people are religious fanatics.

01:04:16.000 For them, it's sports.

01:04:17.000 It's the Dallas Cowboys.

01:04:18.000 It's their team and they want to fuck up your team.

01:04:20.000 They don't want to debate.

01:04:21.000 Like Jared Diamond, who did Guns, Germs, and Steel.

01:04:23.000 Tons of flaws with that book.

01:04:25.000 Steve Saylor was begging him for a debate.

01:04:27.000 He wouldn't answer.

01:04:30.000 Jared Taylor, John Derbyshire, all these, even Richard Spencer, all these far-right guys have made it clear they'd love to argue with anyone on the other side.

01:04:39.000 And the other side knows that they will lose because their foundation isn't truth or information.

01:04:44.000 Their foundation is just emotions.

01:04:46.000 We're a nation of immigrants.

01:04:47.000 Oh, everything's racist.

01:04:49.000 Oh, gays are people too.

01:04:50.000 And you're like, you think I don't think gays are fucking people?

01:04:54.000 I don't even understand your side of things.

01:04:54.000 What is your point?

01:04:57.000 Well, I'm sure you saw that woman, excuse me, who's a middle school teacher who was a part of the protest at Berkeley. 0.97

01:04:57.000 Right. 0.97

01:05:05.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:05:05.000 And she was on Carlson Tucker Carlson's show, and she was talking about fascism, and She said that Milo is homophobic, even though he's fucking gay.

01:05:14.000 Yeah, he's a racist homophobe who sucks black cocks.

01:05:17.000 Yeah, it's so hilarious.

01:05:18.000 And she was also saying that he promotes genocide.

01:05:21.000 Like, you can't just throw those labels out, and that that, I mean, it's a clear example of what we're talking about because those labels allow her to do anything necessary to get you out of the mix. 0.79

01:05:32.000 And that's fascism.

01:05:32.000 Right.

01:05:33.000 That is fascism.

01:05:35.000 That's authoritative.

01:05:36.000 That's authoritative thinking, authoritarian thinking in a way that's eliminating someone else from expressing themselves because you have deemed them unworthy of expressing themselves.

01:05:48.000 This is a racist.

01:05:49.000 This is a homophobe.

01:05:50.000 This is someone who promotes genocide.

01:05:52.000 We will shut them down.

01:05:53.000 Like, that's nonsense.

01:05:55.000 And you could see from her talking on that show that she talks over him.

01:06:00.000 She doesn't express herself well.

01:06:02.000 She doesn't have clearly thought-out reasons for why she's saying he does these things.

01:06:06.000 She doesn't have quotes that she's relying on.

01:06:08.000 She doesn't say why it's so dangerous that he has these controversial opinions.

01:06:12.000 She just says he's a Nazi.

01:06:14.000 He's a racist.

01:06:15.000 He's a homophobe.

01:06:16.000 He promotes genocide.

01:06:17.000 We're going to shut him down.

01:06:18.000 Well, you can't just say that.

01:06:19.000 You can't just label people because someone could do that to you too.

01:06:22.000 And they will.

01:06:22.000 They will.

01:06:23.000 They will.

01:06:23.000 That's the problem.

01:06:24.000 I forget her name.

01:06:25.000 Michelle Yovelis.

01:06:26.000 It doesn't even matter what her name is.

01:06:28.000 She's really not called by any means necessary.

01:06:31.000 But the game I like playing with these people is play it through.

01:06:36.000 They do that at AA.

01:06:37.000 They go, you want a beer?

01:06:38.000 Okay, have a beer.

01:06:39.000 Then you're going to have another beer.

01:06:40.000 Then you're going to get Coke and the heroin, blah, blah, blah.

01:06:42.000 Play it through.

01:06:42.000 And I always say to these people, play it through.

01:06:44.000 So he wants genocide.

01:06:45.000 Trump wants genocide.

01:06:46.000 Okay.

01:06:47.000 So he wants to kill what?

01:06:48.000 Blacks and Mexicans? 1.00

01:06:50.000 So there's a van that drives to this house in New Orleans and picks up these black people.

01:06:55.000 And then they what?

01:06:55.000 They go to a gas chamber?

01:06:57.000 How does this work?

01:06:58.000 What happens to their property?

01:06:59.000 Is that divvied up?

01:07:00.000 Does the state own that now?

01:07:01.000 Like, are you talking about the Cuban revolution?

01:07:03.000 The irony is, by the way, whenever you start describing their universe, you end up describing Venezuela, Cuba, socialist countries, or you end up describing the Middle East.

01:07:11.000 Oh, he's going to what?

01:07:12.000 Throw gays off buildings? 0.98

01:07:13.000 He's going to start stoning women to death who are rape victims.

01:07:17.000 You have your villains right there, but you're purposely ignoring them.

01:07:20.000 And the other thing that's going on here, which is still a theory I'm working on, but there seems to be a disturbing peek at what a matriarchy would be like. 1.00

01:07:29.000 And I'm seeing a lot of women in these movements who are sort of vindictive and cruel. 1.00

01:07:37.000 And like this woman we're talking about, you know, you watch these videos and you hear like, fuck him up, get him, get him. 0.97

01:07:43.000 These women voices from behind the crowd.

01:07:45.000 And I call them shit chests.

01:07:46.000 Like that woman from the University of Missouri. 0.99

01:07:48.000 Can I get some muscle over here?

01:07:50.000 Remember her?

01:07:50.000 Yeah.

01:07:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:52.000 She wants men to fight on her behalf. 0.99

01:07:54.000 And you know, Iron Man has that blue thing in his chest?

01:07:56.000 Yeah.

01:07:57.000 I don't think women are evil. 1.00

01:07:58.000 I like Iron Man.

01:07:59.000 Women are like Iron Man. 1.00

01:08:00.000 They're magic, right?

01:08:01.000 But by ripping out that blue thing, you're ripping out their ability to have children and be mothers and everything.

01:08:06.000 And then you put in a piece of shit into Iron Man's chest.

01:08:10.000 That's what feminists and like this woman are. 1.00

01:08:12.000 They're shit chests.

01:08:15.000 And they're malfunctioning robots.

01:08:17.000 And they're like, kill him.

01:08:19.000 Milo wants genocide.

01:08:20.000 Kill him.

01:08:21.000 So do you think that they're imitating what they think are patriarchal societies?

01:08:25.000 They're doing their version of it.

01:08:26.000 And that's what they're doing with this, the whole matriarchal posturing? 1.00

01:08:30.000 Yeah, it's like Clark Kent.

01:08:32.000 I want to write an article.

01:08:33.000 Oh, I'm writing it.

01:08:35.000 No, you're not writing it.

01:08:36.000 And you go, Clark, simmer down, dude.

01:08:39.000 You write your article.

01:08:40.000 I'm doing mine.

01:08:41.000 And he crunches up.

01:08:41.000 No.

01:08:42.000 Well, there's not a whole lot of matriarchal societies in the animal world other than hyenas.

01:08:50.000 There's a few of them.

01:08:51.000 There's a few where the females are larger than the males.

01:08:54.000 A few bugs, especially.

01:08:56.000 But hyenas in particular, the female hyenas are much larger than the males.

01:09:00.000 They even have fake dicks.

01:09:01.000 They have a faux penis. 0.94

01:09:02.000 He has this big, large tube, fake dick that hangs down.

01:09:05.000 They actually give birth out of it.

01:09:07.000 And they climb on top of the males and they fuck them. 1.00

01:09:10.000 And the speculation, there's a lot of speculation as to why the females are bigger, but one of them is that they think that she has to be bigger because hyenas are so goddamn ruthless, they eat their babies.

01:09:20.000 Oh.

01:09:21.000 So the female has to go, get the fuck away from the baby. 1.00

01:09:24.000 And she gets on top of them and fucks him, you piece of shit. 1.00

01:09:24.000 Get the fuck. 1.00

01:09:27.000 That's my baby.

01:09:29.000 I mean, there's no more, you know, no pun intended dog-eat-dog world than a fucking hyena world.

01:09:35.000 You're out there fighting for scraps with lions.

01:09:38.000 Well, I actually have described Antifa and these people as hyenas because that thing I was talking about at Berkeley where our guys went in and said, I thought you guys were like tough or something was his exact quote.

01:09:38.000 Yeah.

01:09:47.000 And they're going, get him, get him, fuck him up.

01:09:50.000 And then the guys sort of give up because no one wants to fight them.

01:09:52.000 They start walking away and then someone runs up behind him, knocks him out with a flagpole.

01:09:57.000 As they're screaming these Italian slogans, by the way, like, no fascista, anti fascista.

01:10:02.000 From the 1920s.

01:10:02.000 Oh, man.

01:10:03.000 They're having fun.

01:10:04.000 They knock him out.

01:10:05.000 They're playing a game.

01:10:05.000 They're LARPing.

01:10:06.000 And they knock him out.

01:10:08.000 And then as soon as he's out, the hyenas come out.

01:10:10.000 And then they start kicking his unconscious body and they start grabbing.

01:10:13.000 There really are like weird little.

01:10:15.000 Yeah, it's online.

01:10:15.000 You can find it.

01:10:16.000 Oh, fuck.

01:10:17.000 Weird little ugly savages.

01:10:18.000 Here's the scary thing, man.

01:10:19.000 You're going to invite right-wing people to do the same thing. 0.88

01:10:23.000 And you're going to get some veterans and you're going to get some fighters.

01:10:27.000 We do.

01:10:27.000 And it's going to be horrific, man.

01:10:30.000 It's going to be horrific.

01:10:31.000 And again, you start kicking their ass and then they're going to come back with weapons and people are going to show up with guns.

01:10:37.000 It always leads to someone showing up with guns.

01:10:39.000 Maybe.

01:10:40.000 And if this keeps going and these protests, especially the things like the Milo protests, I mean, maybe now that Milo has been humiliated and at least temporarily sidetracked or put down for a bit while he has to rebuild, maybe someone can come along and have reasonable dialogue and do some sort of a campus speech.

01:11:01.000 Why is he doing these things on campuses, first of all?

01:11:03.000 I don't think he gets paid for most of them.

01:11:05.000 What?

01:11:06.000 My theory with Milo is I think his eyesight's getting worse.

01:11:10.000 his glasses are getting thicker and thicker and he's sort of going this is my moment to make an impact I think so, yeah.

01:11:19.000 Are you just theorizing this?

01:11:21.000 He's only like 28.

01:11:21.000 Yeah.

01:11:23.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 But you look at him, he's reading glasses.

01:11:26.000 They're insane.

01:11:27.000 Really?

01:11:27.000 Yeah.

01:11:28.000 And they're getting thicker.

01:11:29.000 Maybe it's Stress.

01:11:31.000 Stress making his eyes worse?

01:11:34.000 I don't know.

01:11:35.000 I'm not a doctor.

01:11:36.000 Clearly.

01:11:38.000 I can't think it would be good.

01:11:40.000 But I think he's trying to make a maximum impact in a short amount of time.

01:11:44.000 Because you think he doesn't have much time left?

01:11:46.000 That's such a way.

01:11:46.000 He seems healthy.

01:11:48.000 He also seems totally reckless.

01:11:49.000 In fact, when we were in Orlando, we made out at the site of the...

01:11:53.000 Yeah, at this point.

01:11:54.000 I saw the offend Muslims.

01:11:57.000 Wow.

01:11:57.000 So I said, I did a big speech about freedom and free states in this America.

01:12:01.000 Delicious.

01:12:03.000 Like strawberries.

01:12:04.000 Well, at least he freshened his breath up before.

01:12:06.000 No, gays just taste better. 1.00

01:12:10.000 I said, fuck Islam, and then we made out at the site of the Orlando shooting to annoy Muslims. 1.00

01:12:15.000 But we had armed guards and stuff, and I said, all right, I want to make sure these guys are scoping out the roofs and shit.

01:12:19.000 Yes.

01:12:20.000 And he goes, I don't care if I die.

01:12:21.000 I'll happily die for this.

01:12:23.000 I was like, well, I do care, actually.

01:12:24.000 I've got three kids.

01:12:26.000 Is it nihilism or nihilism?

01:12:28.000 I always say it wrong.

01:12:28.000 I always say nihilism.

01:12:29.000 Nihilism.

01:12:30.000 That nihilistic sort of instinct that he has.

01:12:36.000 He has a burn it all down instinct.

01:12:38.000 And I think he has that with his life as well.

01:12:40.000 And I think a lot of that, I'm playing some serious bro psychologist here, you know, some armchair psychology from someone totally unqualified.

01:12:50.000 But you've got to attribute that to, at least in some ways, being molested as a child.

01:12:56.000 I would imagine that his experiences that he's calling positive experiences when he was young, in many ways, those could have potentially damaged him.

01:13:05.000 And also, being young and being homosexual and being rejected, all of those things wreak havoc.

01:13:11.000 And you develop this, fuck you, I want to burn it down.

01:13:15.000 And this is one of the strategies that he's sort of adopted, that strategy to be this guy who's very difficult.

01:13:23.000 He's gay. 0.99

01:13:25.000 He's an English gay guy who's a right-winger. 0.98

01:13:30.000 I mean, it's so baffling to them.

01:13:32.000 They don't know what to do with it.

01:13:33.000 They hate it because they see blacks and gays as their little pets.

01:13:37.000 And they like putting them on the front lines and going, look at who we're helping.

01:13:40.000 And then when one of them defects to the other side, they become particularly outraged.

01:13:44.000 But very few defect at the level that he's defected.

01:13:47.000 I mean, he turned around and started attacking directly.

01:13:47.000 Right.

01:13:50.000 The guy who bankrupted BuzzFeed with the Hulk Hogan lawsuit, Peter Thiel.

01:13:55.000 Is that his name?

01:13:56.000 Thiel?

01:13:57.000 Thiel?

01:13:57.000 Thiel.

01:13:58.000 The Silicon Valley billionaire.

01:14:00.000 He's on Trump's sort of board, right?

01:14:02.000 Isn't he?

01:14:03.000 He's one of the people that Trump has appointed to help him with technology or something.

01:14:06.000 I think so.

01:14:07.000 There's some sort of, see if you can find what that is.

01:14:09.000 Pull that shit up, Jamie.

01:14:11.000 There's some sort of a position that he has.

01:14:14.000 I mean, he's an interesting one because he's a gay man and he's a hugely successful entrepreneur, billionaire character.

01:14:20.000 So he's a weird one, too.

01:14:21.000 Like these guys that get, they're supposed to, like, if you're gay, you should be on the left. 0.87

01:14:26.000 If you're, you know, if you're, you know, transgender, you should be on the left. 1.00

01:14:30.000 Like when Bruce Jenner became Caitlin Jenner and said he's still against gay marriage, everybody was like, what the fuck?

01:14:37.000 What in the fuck?

01:14:38.000 He's a Trump supporter and he's against gay marriage, but now call me Caitlin. 0.59

01:14:43.000 And this is my favorite part was when they asked him, like, like Ellen, like really sort of grilled him on it.

01:14:50.000 And he goes, well, I'm more of a traditionalist.

01:14:52.000 Like, you definitely aren't, you fuck.

01:14:54.000 Well, that makes sense to me, though.

01:14:55.000 Because if you see women as so special that it's a major thing to go over there, then you must have a 1950s view of a lady that's a Doris Day girl with a poodle skirt doing the vacuuming. 1.00

01:15:07.000 Because liberals and college students just go, you and I are chicks. 1.00

01:15:11.000 So they don't see it as a long jump.

01:15:13.000 But Bruce Jenner sees it as this massive pole vault.

01:15:16.000 Peter Thiel.

01:15:16.000 Can I pick up?

01:15:17.000 Yeah, sure.

01:15:17.000 Peter Thiel adds allies to Trump transition.

01:15:22.000 So it says, starting to make his mark on Trump's transition team.

01:15:26.000 Thiel, a billionaire investor and Facebook board member, joined the transition team days after the election and gradually bringing in other members of his circle.

01:15:36.000 While Thial clashed with Silicon Valley during the campaign by endorsing Trump early, this group may be the strongest or only bridge between the tech industry and the president-elect.

01:15:50.000 This is to me, while Gavin's peeing, this is to me the most volatile time that I can ever remember.

01:15:59.000 Like the most vulnerable I've felt like our country is like as a nation, like as a structure, as a traditional structure, like president and vice president and Congress and Senate.

01:16:11.000 Now that Gavin has returned, I was saying that I think this is the most vulnerable I've ever felt like this country is in terms of like its structure.

01:16:19.000 Yeah.

01:16:20.000 I just see it as so divided.

01:16:22.000 Cleanup.

01:16:23.000 I feel great, yeah.

01:16:24.000 Why do you think it's a cleanup?

01:16:25.000 In what way?

01:16:27.000 Trump hiring people as heads of departments that hate that department.

01:16:32.000 I hate the government.

01:16:33.000 I want it reduced to almost nothing.

01:16:35.000 So when you have someone in the Department of Education that likes charter schools and hates public schools, I go, get in there.

01:16:41.000 Just start dismantling the unions, the teachers' unions, start tearing them to shreds, make it possible to fire a teacher.

01:16:47.000 Let's get the free market in there. 0.80

01:16:49.000 That's wonderful.

01:16:50.000 That is a huge issue.

01:16:51.000 I have a friend whose daughter is going to the school, and he is absolutely furious because the teacher has tenure.

01:16:57.000 You literally can't fire them unless they commit some sort of a felony.

01:17:00.000 And this woman doesn't give a fuck about her classes. 1.00

01:17:03.000 And he was describing how negligent she is as a teacher and how careless and how little effort she puts into it because she has the class. 1.00

01:17:14.000 It's hers.

01:17:14.000 It's like a free paycheck.

01:17:16.000 And she's just not the type of person that's committed to her work.

01:17:20.000 And she can't be fired.

01:17:21.000 And he's so furious and so frustrated with the public school system and how it all works that he's going to pull his daughter out and put her in a private school now.

01:17:28.000 Yeah, I had to do that too.

01:17:30.000 I called it the $40,000 post-it note.

01:17:32.000 I got a post note on my daughter's homework.

01:17:33.000 It said, you're awesome.

01:17:34.000 Y-O-U-R. 1.00

01:17:36.000 No way.

01:17:36.000 Yep.

01:17:37.000 She's a teacher.

01:17:37.000 She's a public school.

01:17:38.000 She also got no murkers because my daughter used markers on her homework. 0.95

01:17:42.000 M-E-R-K. 1.00

01:17:43.000 No murkers.

01:17:45.000 This is a teacher?

01:17:46.000 Yeah.

01:17:47.000 Wow.

01:17:48.000 Well, if you don't have that squiggly red line underneath your text, it's very difficult to tell what the fuck you just said and what's wrong with it.

01:17:55.000 Does this Trump thing bother you with the tax returns?

01:17:58.000 No, not at all.

01:17:59.000 That bothers me a lot.

01:18:00.000 Really?

01:18:01.000 Yes.

01:18:01.000 Because I want to know how much money he makes from Russia.

01:18:04.000 He's got significant business ties with Russia, apparently.

01:18:06.000 Were you concerned about Hillary's ties with Russia?

01:18:09.000 Sure.

01:18:09.000 No, look, mom, I'm no Hillary supporter by any stretch of the imagination.

01:18:14.000 I think she's impossibly corrupt. 0.99

01:18:16.000 I think she represents this system where people get to a place of influence and they use that influence to make massive amounts of money by giving speeches to bankers and finding ways to profit.

01:18:28.000 And look, they're shutting down the Clinton Foundation, right?

01:18:31.000 You're aware of that, right?

01:18:31.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:32.000 This is.

01:18:33.000 Yeah, I mean, the whole thing was a big, as soon as she doesn't have any power anymore, gee, how weird that this whole thing is shutting down. 0.96

01:18:39.000 It's a pay-to-play scheme.

01:18:40.000 And that's really what it's been the entire time.

01:18:42.000 And everyone knows that.

01:18:43.000 But it's one of those things where the left didn't want to talk about it because it weakens their position, it strengthens the right.

01:18:48.000 But by not talking about it, it makes them extremely vulnerable as well.

01:18:51.000 So I'm no supporter of anything that she stands for or Bill stands for, especially now.

01:18:58.000 But he makes me nervous.

01:19:01.000 They're spending more money on travel.

01:19:03.000 And he complained how much Obama spent on travel.

01:19:06.000 Trump will have spent more money on travel in the first seven months than Obama did in the entire eight years he was in the White House.

01:19:12.000 Because he's flying back and forth to Mar-a-Lago, back and forth to Manhattan.

01:19:16.000 He's doing whatever the fuck he wants.

01:19:18.000 He's flying his kids when his kids have to fly to do business for him, when they're opening up casinos.

01:19:23.000 It's all secret service.

01:19:24.000 Everything is being done with taxpayer money.

01:19:28.000 He is the most consistently threatened president in history.

01:19:32.000 I mean, the Daily Mail printed this, no, sorry, the Daily News in New York printed this list of how many people would have to be killed to get to a Democrat.

01:19:42.000 And they go, we're just throwing this out there just so you can see.

01:19:44.000 It would have to be this person and then the vice president and then the secretary and the postmaster general and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:19:50.000 And you go, why are you publishing hit lists?

01:19:52.000 Why would they do that?

01:19:53.000 Because the people who are doing it.

01:19:54.000 I've seen it all over the place.

01:19:54.000 It's common.

01:19:56.000 Comedians are talking about it too.

01:19:56.000 People will read it.

01:19:58.000 Like, let's just take them out.

01:19:59.000 It's got to be taken out.

01:20:00.000 Comedians are saying that?

01:20:01.000 Michael Moore said something strange could happen before Joy Behar said something like that too.

01:20:06.000 Well, that was Sarah Silverman, too.

01:20:07.000 She had this thing.

01:20:08.000 She was advocating.

01:20:09.000 She was saying that once the military steps in, the Mad King will no longer be there.

01:20:13.000 Like, what?

01:20:14.000 You do not want the fucking military to run the country ever.

01:20:18.000 Do you understand what that means?

01:20:20.000 If they can kill the president, they can kill you too.

01:20:24.000 You have to be absolutely out of your fucking mind to want the military to step in and run the country.

01:20:29.000 You are advocating a military dictatorship.

01:20:32.000 Because by the way, that's what happens when the military comes over.

01:20:35.000 When they take over, you don't get a vote.

01:20:37.000 There's no fucking vote now.

01:20:39.000 The people with the guns are now running things.

01:20:39.000 That's all gone.

01:20:41.000 And they do whatever the fuck they want.

01:20:43.000 It's very inconvenient for them to have to sit down and listen to people who go to Largo on Tuesday night to watch Sarah Silverman speak.

01:20:50.000 Like, it's very inconvenient for them to take your opinion into consideration.

01:20:54.000 And they're not going to.

01:20:55.000 Well, the implication there, too, is that she's running it.

01:20:57.000 Like, General Brigadier Judd Apatow is calling out the commander's guy, General Patton Oswald.

01:21:02.000 I just don't think they've thought tanks.

01:21:04.000 They haven't thought it through.

01:21:05.000 They never think it through because it's just religion.

01:21:06.000 It's all platitudes.

01:21:07.000 It's all mods and rockers made up shit.

01:21:09.000 What's also, there's a lot of posturing online.

01:21:13.000 When you're making these statements online, you're doing it to not just because you have something to say, which I believe there's something there, but also because you want love.

01:21:23.000 You want people to like what you're saying.

01:21:26.000 You want people to retweet it.

01:21:28.000 You want people to say, hey, that guy is really on the ball.

01:21:31.000 That girl is really on top of politics. 1.00

01:21:34.000 Yeah, you go, girl.

01:21:35.000 You know, you're saying the right things.

01:21:36.000 Yeah, fuck him.

01:21:37.000 We got to get him.

01:21:38.000 But they're not thinking this thing out.

01:21:42.000 You had a contest.

01:21:44.000 There's a fucking contest.

01:21:45.000 The person that you had go against the person that you didn't want to win sucked.

01:21:51.000 So the person who won won the fucking contest.

01:21:55.000 You can't just come in and say now the military has to take over because I don't agree with the results of the contest.

01:22:00.000 We have a country.

01:22:01.000 The country's filled with 350 million people.

01:22:05.000 Enough with your shitty electoral college system decided that this guy should win the contest.

01:22:11.000 He won.

01:22:12.000 He won fucking fair and square.

01:22:14.000 Whether or not the Russians were involved in hacking the DNC, take that aside.

01:22:18.000 Look at it for what it is because what the Russians exposed was fucking corruption. 0.63

01:22:23.000 And I don't, they're obsessed with these emails.

01:22:25.000 And I go, you know, that's not what lost it for her.

01:22:28.000 There was no real smoking guns in those emails.

01:22:30.000 There was what's your name coming up with questions for CNN.

01:22:35.000 There was Jake Tapper looking dirty in there.

01:22:38.000 Where did Jake Tapper look dirty from?

01:22:41.000 It looked like he was getting questions, talking points from the DNC.

01:22:45.000 You may have to pull that shit up.

01:22:47.000 Yeah, there was also the very clear collusion where they were making sure that Bernie Sanders did not win the primaries.

01:22:57.000 Right.

01:22:57.000 That was where it was most disturbing to me.

01:23:00.000 But was that leaked through emails?

01:23:01.000 Yes.

01:23:02.000 Okay.

01:23:02.000 Yes.

01:23:03.000 I mean, they did.

01:23:03.000 Yeah.

01:23:04.000 So she did something corrupt. 1.00

01:23:05.000 Yeah, she did something corrupt. 1.00

01:23:07.000 And they're saying, well, the Republicans didn't get exposed.

01:23:10.000 And, well, the implication is the Russians had something on them, but there was a deal.

01:23:14.000 But how do you know that's the case?

01:23:15.000 They might not have done anything illegal.

01:23:17.000 That's also possible.

01:23:18.000 It's possible.

01:23:19.000 It's possible that if you look at the very minimal amount of things that were done by the DNC, there was just a few incidents.

01:23:26.000 None of them landed anybody in jail, right?

01:23:28.000 So I think we can kind of agree that whether or not they're corrupt, they're fairly minimal.

01:23:32.000 Even though you are fucking with democracy, I mean, that's what you're doing when you're rigging the primaries.

01:23:37.000 You're fucking with democracy.

01:23:38.000 No one went to jail.

01:23:39.000 So the worst case scenario that was attributed to them was still not enough to warrant a criminal investigation or jail time.

01:23:47.000 Then you have the other side.

01:23:48.000 And you're supposed to assume that their side was more egregious or was it equal and just not exposed?

01:23:54.000 Look all the shit that was exposed.

01:23:57.000 Look at that Billy Bush interview.

01:23:58.000 You're telling me that's not worse than anything that was exposed on the other side as far as public opinion?

01:24:03.000 It seemed to resonate more.

01:24:04.000 I didn't say why.

01:24:04.000 I don't know.

01:24:04.000 It was just a dumb joke, but it seemed to be...

01:24:08.000 It was a pussy joke march. 0.59

01:24:09.000 Look, Trump won because of transgender bathrooms. 0.65

01:24:12.000 He won because of the aggrievement industry.

01:24:14.000 He won because of the liberal media spinning stories.

01:24:17.000 He won because we're all sick of government.

01:24:19.000 Obamacare.

01:24:20.000 Obamacare.

01:24:21.000 There's a lot of factors.

01:24:22.000 There was so much animosity built up against the establishment that when Rodney Dangerfield showed up in tartan pants and said, hey, whoa, whoa, what, someone stepped on a duck?

01:24:31.000 We all went, that fucking guy, I want him to come in and just blow it all up and let's start from scratch.

01:24:36.000 It wasn't leaks.

01:24:38.000 But the ties to the Russians, that doesn't bother you at all?

01:24:41.000 No.

01:24:41.000 The fact that he won't release his taxes, it doesn't bother you at all?

01:24:44.000 Nope.

01:24:44.000 that bothers me because we should know where money comes from.

01:24:48.000 But look at what they do, look at this obsession with reframing things.

01:24:52.000 Like Milo's sentence has been construed to mean he wants 13-year-olds to have sex all the time with adults.

01:25:02.000 Every time they get a, like Ann Coulter said, our blacks are better than their blacks.

01:25:06.000 She meant conservative blacks tend to be more well-researched because they get a hammering at Thanksgiving from their family and they're not conforming to the majority of their race. 0.51

01:25:15.000 So they tend to be hardened.

01:25:17.000 That gets construed into, Ann Coulter thinks we still have slaves and we own blacks.

01:25:22.000 So you can just see the way these tax returns, especially in an era where we seem to hate entrepreneurs and we seem to hate wealth.

01:25:29.000 I mean, I've heard so many people criticize Trump saying he's a billionaire or the Betsy DeVos because she's a billionaire.

01:25:37.000 And you go, since when is that a fucking insult?

01:25:39.000 That's the only thing everyone on earth wants to be.

01:25:42.000 Well, okay.

01:25:43.000 I mean, you're kind of setting up a bit of a straw man with that because I don't think that's just what people are challenging and what people are upset about with Trump.

01:25:51.000 What they're upset about is that they believe that he might be influenced by foreign governments that have a vested interest in controlling our democracy.

01:25:59.000 And that's what the Russian thing is scary. 1.00

01:26:01.000 If he's making considerable amount of money in Russia and a considerable amount of money in China, you have to wonder whether or not he will be influenced by that financial tie, by those financial ties, and whether or not that will influence the policy that he creates in this country, whether or not he allows things to happen that we don't think should happen just so that he can profit.

01:26:22.000 Valid concern.

01:26:23.000 But it's not proven yet, and if it is proven, we'll drag him out of the White House by his heels.

01:26:28.000 Right, but don't you think that the only way you're ever going to really prove that is by seeing his taxes?

01:26:33.000 You have to see his taxes.

01:26:34.000 People don't understand how business works.

01:26:36.000 That's why I bring up this anti-entrepreneurial age, like with the bankruptcy laws.

01:26:41.000 In the 90s, everyone was taking advantage of bankruptcy laws because the government was so bad at its job.

01:26:47.000 So Trump had to go on board.

01:26:50.000 The same with his manufacturing his ties in China.

01:26:52.000 I've tried to make things in America, like toy dolls.

01:26:55.000 They were going to be 17 times the price if we didn't make them in China.

01:26:58.000 So it wasn't like it would be a challenge.

01:27:00.000 It just wasn't possible.

01:27:02.000 Once that system is like that, you have to adhere to that system if you're going to eventually change it.

01:27:08.000 And I think people are going to see these tax returns.

01:27:09.000 They don't know what the fuck they're doing.

01:27:11.000 And they're going to go, oh, here's proof that he's in bed with these people.

01:27:14.000 Well, some people are going to be able to analyze them and come up with accurate assessments of where he's being influenced and where he makes money and why that could be a problem and why it could be a conflict of interest.

01:27:24.000 But we should be able to have that information.

01:27:26.000 And every single president before him has been forthcoming with that information.

01:27:31.000 Everybody was going to have been a financial loser.

01:27:34.000 Maybe.

01:27:34.000 But he said he was going to release it up until the moment where he got in, and then he said, no, why should I not?

01:27:40.000 Yeah, I guess, I don't know.

01:27:41.000 It's a good idea.

01:27:42.000 You don't think they should force him to release the taxi to me?

01:27:45.000 Like these people, they're worried about foreign influence.

01:27:48.000 We had Hillary showing us her foreign influence with uranium theory. 0.96

01:27:54.000 We showed her selling the presidency, having Bill Clinton do a talk about the president.

01:27:57.000 But that doesn't exonerate Trump, right?

01:27:59.000 No, but where were you then?

01:28:00.000 You, the president of you.

01:28:02.000 You're right, you're right.

01:28:03.000 But we're not talking to them, right?

01:28:04.000 We're talking to me.

01:28:05.000 And I'm not a left-wing Hillary supporter in any way, shape, or form.

01:28:10.000 I just think that if we're going to have a president, we have to have some pretty universal rules that we follow.

01:28:14.000 And one of them should be the president should be beyond influence by foreign governments.

01:28:20.000 And there's really not a whole lot of ways to tell what's influencing you other than tax returns.

01:28:26.000 Trevor Burrus: So you're implying that in these tax returns, you're going to see massive checks from Russia.

01:28:30.000 I'm saying we should find out.

01:28:30.000 I'm not saying that.

01:28:33.000 I mean, you should absolutely.

01:28:35.000 You're the president.

01:28:37.000 It's very eroding.

01:28:39.000 It erodes the public confidence.

01:28:41.000 If you hide that, if you conceal that, if you don't tell us where you have your money stored, you don't tell us where you're making money, where you have bank accounts, where you're...

01:28:58.000 And if we don't know where he's being influenced through his financial connections, I feel like that's really problematic.

01:29:07.000 And I think it's a real dangerous thing to deny it because it's always just been what presidents do.

01:29:15.000 And we've always said it was a good thing.

01:29:17.000 And I always thought it was law.

01:29:18.000 I thought it was mandatory.

01:29:19.000 I never knew that there was a way to get around it.

01:29:23.000 They're being under audit right now.

01:29:24.000 I thought that was over.

01:29:26.000 He says it's still going, and it's been going since the 70s or something like that.

01:29:29.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

01:29:30.000 So he just has to keep the audit going, then he doesn't have to tell us how much?

01:29:32.000 Yes.

01:29:32.000 I mean, I understand your logic.

01:29:34.000 The bigger picture here is I think that people don't understand that he took a major hit becoming president financially.

01:29:41.000 And I think that was part of the appeal.

01:29:43.000 Americans went, holy shit, you're putting it all on the line for us?

01:29:46.000 But he's not.

01:29:47.000 They're losing tons of money.

01:29:48.000 His sons are running the business.

01:29:49.000 I guess they're doing a great job.

01:29:51.000 The brand took a huge hit.

01:29:54.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:54.000 How so?

01:29:55.000 His residences, the golf courses.

01:29:57.000 Well, the Mar-a-Lago, the attendance is up, and they raise the admission fee to $200,000 a year.

01:30:04.000 That's how much it costs now to join there.

01:30:07.000 My understanding is the brand with his residencies and his golf clubs and everything else took a major hit.

01:30:12.000 And I understand that because it's like if you're in New York and you say, we're a Mets mattress company.

01:30:18.000 Well, it's not that people are anti-Met, but now Yankees fans don't want your mattress.

01:30:22.000 So seeing anything political when you're a brand like that is going to lose you 50% of your followers.

01:30:27.000 And he went on limb.

01:30:28.000 And if he had lost the election, he still would have had that brand damage without any of the benefits.

01:30:32.000 And why?

01:30:33.000 And people saw him put everything on black and they went, I appreciate you risking that. 0.85

01:30:37.000 Has that been proven that his brand has been damaged?

01:30:39.000 Like have there been any studies of attendance or residencies dropping?

01:30:44.000 Pull that shit up.

01:30:45.000 Wasn't the people that owned condos in one of the Trump buildings tried to change the name?

01:30:50.000 In New York, they literally ripped the word Trump off of their building.

01:30:54.000 They did do that, right?

01:30:55.000 Yeah.

01:30:55.000 Yep.

01:30:56.000 They had construction rentals.

01:30:57.000 There are people that own condos in that building, right?

01:31:00.000 So it's a place where you buy the...

01:31:05.000 You buy your apartment.

01:31:06.000 It's so strange.

01:31:08.000 But they pulled the Trump name down.

01:31:11.000 Whose idea is that?

01:31:12.000 And how did I get away?

01:31:12.000 It was all agreed.

01:31:14.000 It was a Democratic decision, and they said we don't want this on the business.

01:31:16.000 Well, they probably don't want to be targeted, too, because I was there right after the election.

01:31:20.000 I just happened to be there because the UFC was there in Madison Square Garden right after the election.

01:31:24.000 So I walked to the gym, and when I came back, it was like while we're in the gym, the riots or the parade, the march started.

01:31:34.000 And so we walked back right in the thick of it.

01:31:37.000 And they were parked out in front of the Trump Tower, just fucking screaming.

01:31:40.000 What a bunch of fucking losers.

01:31:42.000 I saw them for Trump, KKK, racist, sexist, anti-gay.

01:31:47.000 This guy just kept screaming.

01:31:48.000 Where did that even come from?

01:31:50.000 They did another thing where they, first of all, they dance outside of Mike Pence's house.

01:31:55.000 He's not even there.

01:31:56.000 Like he gives a fuck.

01:31:58.000 He never said gays can't dance.

01:31:59.000 And then they just do that in New York.

01:32:01.000 They start making out with each other in front of the Trump building like he's going to go, oh, stop it.

01:32:06.000 Stop it.

01:32:07.000 I can't see gergamel from the Smurfs.

01:32:07.000 I'm evil.

01:32:10.000 I hate that.

01:32:12.000 Well, it's the same thing we were talking about earlier with labeling Milo a Nazi and fascist and homophobic and promoting genocide.

01:32:22.000 If you just say those words and define someone, you immediately put them in a nice box that you can attack.

01:32:28.000 Right.

01:32:28.000 And so by someone, this guy was right next to me, fucking screaming it, Donald Trump, KKK, racist, sexist, anti-gay.

01:32:36.000 This was hilarious.

01:32:36.000 He saw a black guy coming.

01:32:38.000 He starts yelling, Black Lives Matter.

01:32:40.000 Black Lives Matter.

01:32:41.000 I was like, oh, you son of a bitch.

01:32:44.000 You fuck.

01:32:44.000 They come up with this concept that the president is pro-hate.

01:32:48.000 So then they go, hey, Trump, I'm against hate.

01:32:51.000 And he goes, that's nice.

01:32:53.000 So they build their straw man, and then they're attacking him and lighting him on fire. 0.53

01:32:56.000 And the rest of us are going, I don't care that you're lighting a scarecrow on fire.

01:33:00.000 You look fucking ridiculous.

01:33:02.000 Well, it's not empowering their cause to be exaggerating about his stances on things like gay rights or any of these other things.

01:33:13.000 It's not empowering.

01:33:14.000 So when you say he's KKK, when you say he's anti-gay, when you say he's racist, without real proof, like you could say that he has said some very racist things about some Mexicans.

01:33:26.000 You can say that.

01:33:27.000 No, you can't.

01:33:28.000 Well, you could say that he's talking about all the rapists and the murders that are going to be.

01:33:31.000 80% of illegals who cross the border, the women get raped. 0.93

01:33:34.000 They're at the point now where these women just take contraception as part of the deal. 1.00

01:33:39.000 It's almost like it's not rape at this point because it's a currency.

01:33:43.000 I pussy people that are coming across. 1.00

01:33:45.000 He was saying they're sending their rapists, and they are.

01:33:50.000 Mexico has its own program where they send their criminals over the border.

01:33:53.000 I don't think he did a good job of expressing that, if that's what he really wanted to say.

01:33:57.000 And I think he could have been more measured, and he could have done it in a way that would, but that's not how he talks.

01:34:02.000 He could have done it in a way that would have removed any doubt as to what his intentions are, how he feels about people.

01:34:08.000 Right, but it is chest-like.

01:34:09.000 Sometimes he talks like an idiot, they're doing bad things, and then you realize four days later, holy shit, that was brilliant.

01:34:17.000 So, with the Mexicans thing, these Mexicans are rapists. 1.00

01:34:19.000 You go, what?

01:34:20.000 And then you look it up and go, holy shit, 80% of these women get raped crossing the border by these coyotes?

01:34:25.000 Holy crap.

01:34:26.000 And then another example of this, him being four steps ahead, is when he says, he's trying to do this travel ban, right?

01:34:31.000 Muslims are a threat to America. 1.00

01:34:33.000 And everyone goes, that's crazy.

01:34:34.000 And then he says, the press isn't reporting on the following terrorism cases.

01:34:39.000 This, this, this, this.

01:34:40.000 He lists about 20.

01:34:41.000 So then the media goes, that's not true.

01:34:43.000 We reported on this.

01:34:44.000 We reported on that.

01:34:44.000 We reported on the London bombing.

01:34:46.000 We reported on Benghazi.

01:34:46.000 We reported on this.

01:34:48.000 And then he duped them into talking about terrorism for three days straight.

01:34:52.000 All of a sudden, his travel ban looks pretty reasonable. 0.98

01:34:56.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:34:57.000 So he's often setting a trap for people that they come bounding into.

01:35:01.000 Well, whether or not he's doing it on purpose or whether or not just by finding things that he can say that back up his point, he's starting that conversation off in a way that they wouldn't ordinarily start off.

01:35:13.000 It might have been what happened with Sweden, where he goes, look what happened with Sweden last night on a particularly dead night in Sweden.

01:35:18.000 Now, you could say, look how many blacks died in gang warfare today in Chicago.

01:35:23.000 It might be none today.

01:35:25.000 Right.

01:35:25.000 But the average this year is two.

01:35:27.000 And so you look it up and you go, holy shit, 780 people died in Chicago this year?

01:35:27.000 Right.

01:35:31.000 Is today the 22nd?

01:35:33.000 There was a significant event on the 21st in Sweden.

01:35:36.000 Massive last year.

01:35:37.000 Yeah.

01:35:38.000 Look, Sweden has got problems.

01:35:39.000 Europe has problems.

01:35:40.000 They definitely do.

01:35:41.000 And whenever you have people from one culture that immigrate into another culture and they're disenfranchised and poor, and they have a really, I'm just going to keep going with it. 1.00

01:35:51.000 And they also have a really restrictive, fucked up culture that they're coming from.

01:35:55.000 And they want to impose that culture on the people that live in Germany or wherever. 0.61

01:36:00.000 And they want women to start wearing long dresses and they treat them like they're whores if they don't. 1.00

01:36:05.000 That's all fucking real dangerous.

01:36:07.000 They're from a different part of the world.

01:36:08.000 And it's a part of the world that hasn't changed much in a long time.

01:36:13.000 And that part of the world, I mean, you could call it culture, you can call it religious tradition, but whenever you're dealing with a part of the world that still has honor killings and female genital mutilation, and you don't let women drive, and women aren't allowed to vote, and you have this incredibly restrictive world that you're existing in, and then you bring that world somewhere else, you're going to have a culture clash.

01:36:37.000 And you're seeing that.

01:36:38.000 And this is, you know, if you want people to be free and you want people to have the ability to integrate into a more free culture like America is, you also have to be honest about what the consequences are.

01:36:50.000 And you have to be honest about what kind of culture they're coming from.

01:36:52.000 And as soon as you talk about that, you get labeled an Islamophobe.

01:36:56.000 As soon as you talk about this incredibly restrictive, misogynistic culture that's based on an ancient series of rituals and beliefs, you become a racist and a bigot by talking about a reality.

01:37:09.000 And they're not a race.

01:37:11.000 You're talking about culture.

01:37:12.000 And it's important to make that distinction as a Western chauvinist that I think the West is the best.

01:37:16.000 I don't care what race you are. 1.00

01:37:18.000 But I don't think that other cultures are different.

01:37:20.000 I think they're worse.

01:37:21.000 And Islam is 500 years behind us. 1.00

01:37:24.000 We were shitty.

01:37:25.000 We had witch hunts.

01:37:26.000 Inquisition.

01:37:27.000 We had the Inquisition. 0.52

01:37:28.000 They're not caught up to us yet.

01:37:30.000 They're not as advanced.

01:37:31.000 And I think two big problems with them as far as progress goes is the Quran is an exceptionally violent book. 1.00

01:37:38.000 It doesn't have a 2.0 the way Christians do. 1.00

01:37:40.000 And no one ever talks about this, but they have a major problem with inbreeding.

01:37:44.000 They are marrying their first cousins again and again and again.

01:37:48.000 And that makes your evolution go backwards.

01:37:53.000 Is this true?

01:37:54.000 Where are you getting that from?

01:37:54.000 I never heard of that.

01:37:55.000 Ensemaneity, I think it's called.

01:37:57.000 Muhammad said it's okay to marry your first cousin. 0.55

01:38:00.000 For real?

01:38:01.000 And you do that once or twice, it's pretty bad.

01:38:04.000 And you do it for 40 generations, and now you're going back in time.

01:38:07.000 Look at Iran in 1965.

01:38:09.000 Mini skirts, women doing chemistry with test tubes, driving around. 1.00

01:38:13.000 Hi, you want to go to the go-go hop later?

01:38:15.000 And now just garbage bags.

01:38:17.000 Oh, yeah, oh, Gregorian chants everywhere.

01:38:20.000 They've gone backwards in time, and I blame, obviously, the Quran and the culture and religion, but also I think inbreeding enables them to get hijacked by these radicals.

01:38:29.000 I mean, we've got guys who think they can beat snake bites in America.

01:38:33.000 Can you imagine them taking over Christianity? 0.98

01:38:39.000 It's hilarious.

01:38:40.000 But they're not taking over America the way they took over the Middle East. 0.92

01:38:43.000 You think it's the same?

01:38:44.000 They're equivalent as far as theirs Yeah, I think Irshad Manji in The Trouble with Islam, she says a weird group of Wasabis just hijacked their religion and sent it into the Dark Ages. 1.00

01:38:56.000 And I go, yeah, but how were they vulnerable to hijacking?

01:39:01.000 Christianity couldn't be hijacked by the snake guys.

01:39:05.000 And I think a part of it was inbreeding.

01:39:09.000 This is your own theory.

01:39:10.000 No, no, no.

01:39:11.000 Look at that.

01:39:12.000 Muslims are inbreeding. 1.00

01:39:13.000 Major, major problem.

01:39:14.000 I've never heard this before.

01:39:15.000 Especially with immigrants in Britain, like the Pakistanis in London. 1.00

01:39:19.000 They'll have all kinds of serious inbreeding problems because that's an even smaller sample size you're dealing with.

01:39:25.000 Huh.

01:39:26.000 And every time I bring this up, people go, yeah, what about white people, hillbillies?

01:39:29.000 They were inbreeding or royalty.

01:39:31.000 And I go, yeah.

01:39:31.000 They were inbreeding.

01:39:32.000 And it went real bad.

01:39:34.000 It was a bad move.

01:39:35.000 We learned the hard way.

01:39:36.000 We saw deliverance.

01:39:38.000 Well, this is the first I've heard of it, but pull it up.

01:39:41.000 I'm sure.

01:39:42.000 I'm sure you're not lying.

01:39:43.000 You find anything?

01:39:46.000 Something on Snopes popped up.

01:39:48.000 Oh, Snopes. 0.91

01:39:49.000 Ooh, Snopes.

01:39:50.000 Snopes is...

01:40:00.000 That guy's partying.

01:40:01.000 He married some woman who was an escort.

01:40:03.000 You ever seen the story on Snopes?

01:40:04.000 Yeah, the guy who ran Snopes, ran it with his wife, left his wife for a prostitute. 0.68

01:40:09.000 She's suing him because all the money he spent on prostitutes. 0.99

01:40:13.000 And now he married the prostitute and she's not a prostitute anymore. 0.86

01:40:16.000 Now she works for Snopes. 1.00

01:40:18.000 Oh, wow.

01:40:19.000 I knew it was a husband and wife team. 0.64

01:40:20.000 I didn't know that's how they met.

01:40:21.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:40:22.000 Now, well, there was a husband and wife team, and now it's a husband with the new wife, and then they're suing each other.

01:40:27.000 The ex-wife and the husband were suing each other over who gets the money.

01:40:31.000 Some big, crazy story, but he's just got a big fucking smile on his face, and he's hanging out with this girl.

01:40:35.000 He used to be an escort.

01:40:37.000 I find that distasteful, unless it's Richard Gere and Julia Roberts, because they're gorgeous, and then I like it.

01:40:42.000 Then I think it's Richard.

01:40:43.000 He ain't the best looking guy, but the prostitute at one point in time, the gal who worked as an escort, I should say.

01:40:48.000 I don't want to be disrespectful.

01:40:50.000 I dated an escort once.

01:40:52.000 Did you?

01:40:52.000 Holla.

01:40:53.000 While she was escorting?

01:40:54.000 No.

01:40:55.000 Post.

01:40:56.000 Post.

01:40:56.000 She was molested as a kid.

01:40:58.000 Ooh.

01:40:59.000 So for sex for her, we had to go super intense. 0.52

01:41:03.000 Like public humiliation.

01:41:04.000 She wanted me to slap her in a grocery store and stuff. 1.00

01:41:06.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:41:07.000 Because intimacy had been ruined by dad.

01:41:09.000 Oh, God.

01:41:10.000 So that we had to leap over that and get right into mean stuff.

01:41:13.000 Oh, fuck, man.

01:41:15.000 Yeah, it wasn't great.

01:41:16.000 But that brings me back to what you were saying earlier.

01:41:18.000 Let's just spitball here. 1.00

01:41:19.000 Okay.

01:41:20.000 Molestation gays. 1.00

01:41:21.000 Here's my theory.

01:41:22.000 First of all, I think 1% of people are gay.

01:41:25.000 1%.

01:41:26.000 What is the current theory?

01:41:28.000 You're talking about 10 all the time?

01:41:29.000 10%'s crazy.

01:41:30.000 That's fucking nuts.

01:41:30.000 Going to be a bad thing.

01:41:31.000 1 out of 10 people.

01:41:32.000 That's nonsense.

01:41:32.000 You remember your classrooms?

01:41:34.000 There was that one fae guy who wore lacrosse. 1.00

01:41:34.000 You'd have three classes. 1.00

01:41:37.000 There's a few.

01:41:38.000 I mean, it might be as high as five, but it's definitely, I mean, unless you're in some place with maybe some sort of a gas leak.

01:41:38.000 There's a few.

01:41:46.000 Well, that's what we're getting at.

01:41:47.000 Nature and nurture.

01:41:48.000 So these are gays.

01:41:50.000 These are lesbians. 1.00

01:41:51.000 I think a higher proportion of lesbians are that way from getting molested. 1.00

01:41:58.000 And it's easier to go with a woman because they're not as gross as cocks. 1.00

01:42:01.000 Right.

01:42:02.000 And they're more nurturing, and they're also been sexualized by our culture, right?

01:42:02.000 So I'm going to say.

01:42:06.000 I mean, they're constantly on billboards selling things.

01:42:09.000 Right.

01:42:09.000 You know, and girls kissing girls is hot.

01:42:12.000 You know, you can just get a strap on.

01:42:13.000 There, I can have a dude, and I won't think a dad.

01:42:15.000 So I'm just totally spitballing here, making it up.

01:42:18.000 I'm going to say a third of lesbians were molested. 1.00

01:42:20.000 Right.

01:42:22.000 That's a lot.

01:42:23.000 I'm going to say within the percentage of gays, less than that.

01:42:26.000 I'm going to say a fifth.

01:42:28.000 This is talking out of my ass here.

01:42:28.000 A fifth.

01:42:30.000 A fifth of gays. 0.99

01:42:31.000 So it's possible that Milo was that way.

01:42:33.000 Lena Dunham's sister, Lena brags about molesting her sister. 0.83

01:42:36.000 She's a lesbian now. 1.00

01:42:38.000 She is.

01:42:38.000 Yep.

01:42:39.000 Jesus.

01:42:40.000 So maybe you get molested.

01:42:41.000 It could be by anyone, and sex, you know, brings you bad feelings.

01:42:47.000 When children experience sex when they're not sexual, like when they're not, their hormones haven't kicked in, they haven't reached puberty, and they experience sex at a very early age.

01:42:55.000 They become hypersexualized.

01:42:57.000 And they say that that's one of the things that happens to women that are molested. 1.00

01:43:00.000 And they speculate that that could also be one of the things that happen to men when they experience a molestation by another man at an early age.

01:43:08.000 And there's an imprinting that happens.

01:43:10.000 Christopher Ryan, the author of Sex at Dawn, has talked about this, that there's imprinting that happens during the formative years.

01:43:17.000 And I forget what those years are.

01:43:18.000 I think he said between 10 and like 14.

01:43:21.000 But things that can happen during those years are they like lock in.

01:43:26.000 And that's where people develop fetishes. 0.81

01:43:29.000 And they develop all sorts of weird sort of like kinky sort of things that they connect to sex. 0.97

01:43:34.000 And it's because of the fact that your body and mind are developing.

01:43:38.000 Your hormones are kicking in.

01:43:39.000 Yeah, it totally makes sense.

01:43:41.000 Well, it's a disturbing trait.

01:43:44.000 And your job as a parent and as a society is to keep kids as pure for as long as possible.

01:43:51.000 You want Santa to go as long as humanly possible.

01:43:54.000 You want the Easter Bunny, the fair.

01:43:57.000 Even 9-11, my kids don't know what 9-11 is.

01:44:00.000 I'm keeping that.

01:44:01.000 Race, too.

01:44:02.000 Racism.

01:44:03.000 I just want them to know that that guy has dark skin.

01:44:06.000 I don't want them to know any of those other things.

01:44:07.000 And we're living in a culture where we're normalizing so much decadence that we're destroying our own innocence in the process.

01:44:15.000 Dude, strap yourself in for this.

01:44:18.000 70% of all Pakistanis are inbred. 1.00

01:44:21.000 And in Turkey, the amount is between 25 to 30%.

01:44:26.000 More stillbirths among immigrants. 1.00

01:44:28.000 A rough estimate reveals that close to half of everybody living in the Arab world is inbred. 1.00

01:44:33.000 A large percentage of the parents, this is blowing my mind.

01:44:36.000 Large percentage of the parents that are blood.

01:44:38.000 Where is this coming from?

01:44:39.000 What is this website?

01:44:40.000 I blog posted it before I came here.

01:44:42.000 TJ Media, but these are all the sources that went to.

01:44:45.000 This source is reproductivehealthjournal.com.

01:44:48.000 This is a BBC investigation that went to it.

01:44:51.000 So listen to the BBC investigation in Britain several years ago revealed that at least 55% of the Pakistani community in Britain was married to a first cousin.

01:44:59.000 The Times of India affirmed that, in quotes, this is thought to be linked to the probability that a British Pakistani family, British Pakistani family is at least 13 times more likely than the general population to have children with the recessive genetic disorders.

01:45:17.000 Holy shit.

01:45:19.000 BBC's research also discovered that while British Pakistanis account for just 3.4% of all births in Britain, they accounted for 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.

01:45:36.000 What in the fuck?

01:45:39.000 Labor Party MP has called for a ban on first cousin marriage.

01:45:42.000 Medical evidence shows that one of the negative consequences of inbreeding is a 100% increase in the risk of stillbirths.

01:45:49.000 One study comparing the Norwegians in Pakistani showed that the risk of the child dying during labor increases by 50%.

01:45:58.000 Wow.

01:45:59.000 That is insane.

01:46:00.000 I also read somewhere that a lot of the symptoms of inbred people are irrational rage, fanaticism, and they end up just describing ISIS.

01:46:11.000 Look at what it says here, that with the IQ points, it says findings on intelligence.

01:46:18.000 Research shows that if one parents are cousins, if one's parents are cousins, intelligence goes down 10 to 16 IQ points.

01:46:27.000 The risk of having an IQ lower than 70, criterion for being retarded in quotes. 1.00

01:46:32.000 Are they using that word?

01:46:34.000 Who uses that word?

01:46:35.000 They use it like that?

01:46:36.000 I've never seen it used like that.

01:46:38.000 I've always seen it.

01:46:39.000 I don't think it's a medical distinction.

01:46:40.000 This is a real website.

01:46:42.000 The fuck are we reading that?

01:46:43.000 It's retardation. 1.00

01:46:43.000 Did they say retardation? 1.00

01:46:44.000 No, it says retarded. 0.93

01:46:45.000 It says retarded. 0.99

01:46:46.000 In quotes, see right there?

01:46:48.000 That is the medical definition.

01:46:50.000 Increases 400% among children from cousin marriages.

01:46:55.000 Let me say that again.

01:46:56.000 The risk of having an IQ lower than 70 increases 400% amongst children from cousin marriages.

01:47:04.000 An academic paper published in the Indian National Science Academy found that the onset of various social profiles like visual fixation, social smile, and sound seizures, oral expression, and hand grasping are significantly delayed among the newborn inbred babies.

01:47:23.000 What in the fuck?

01:47:24.000 Good name for a band.

01:47:25.000 Newborn Inbred Babies?

01:47:27.000 Yeah.

01:47:27.000 That's a punker band if I've ever heard one.

01:47:30.000 Wow.

01:47:31.000 Jesus Christ.

01:47:33.000 Then why don't we know this?

01:47:34.000 Because people don't like the truth.

01:47:36.000 Islamophobia.

01:47:37.000 They don't like being called Islamophobic by even discussing it.

01:47:39.000 Like, we're going to be called Islamophobic for even bringing this up.

01:47:42.000 I know, and I'm glad you read that from a reputable site, so it's not Joe Rogan and Gavin McInnes call Muslims retarded.

01:47:48.000 This is PJ Media.

01:47:49.000 I don't know what that is, but let's find out if there's other corroborating or dissenting sources.

01:47:56.000 Pajama Media is a well-established network of sites are what you wear when you want to be serious about problems with Islam. 1.00

01:48:04.000 You wear your footy pajamas and you get down to basics.

01:48:09.000 People are scared of genetics too because it gets into eugenics and they get uncomfortable.

01:48:13.000 But my favorite thing gets into racism too.

01:48:15.000 Racism, but I come from a shitty Glaswegian family. 0.59

01:48:19.000 My uncles were drunks.

01:48:21.000 And maybe coming from a shitty group, you develop this immunity to fear of your group sucking.

01:48:28.000 I'm Italian, mostly Italian.

01:48:29.000 I'm one quarter Irish.

01:48:31.000 And fucking, I came from a line of savages.

01:48:34.000 They're ape people. 1.00

01:48:36.000 You know, there's a good percentage of my ancestors and relatives that I know that are fucking ape people. 1.00

01:48:42.000 And I can say that because I know them and I come from them and I have ape people instincts that I fight off every goddamn day around. 1.00

01:48:48.000 The first time I came here, you were trying to separate your spinal cord because you had crushed it from choking people out.

01:48:53.000 Well, I'm not trying to separate it.

01:48:55.000 I'm trying to relax it and decompress it.

01:48:59.000 You sound like Dr. Zayas right now.

01:49:00.000 I'm trying to smart ape.

01:49:01.000 But I did.

01:49:02.000 I worked it.

01:49:03.000 My back works wonderful.

01:49:03.000 It's great now.

01:49:04.000 My back stretched out.

01:49:06.000 My philosophy is I don't care what the truth is.

01:49:08.000 No such thing as hate facts to me.

01:49:10.000 Let's hear it.

01:49:10.000 Right.

01:49:11.000 Let's hear the facts.

01:49:12.000 And they might be uncomfortable for you, but they are facts.

01:49:14.000 It's the truth, and it's best for everyone.

01:49:16.000 I was talking to this surgeon recently, and he's trying to accrue a DNA database that would just sort of like going into the singularity.

01:49:25.000 It would be like becoming God, and you would be able to tell from a baby, see if a baby is going to have a propensity for lung cancer, you know, right out of the gate.

01:49:34.000 And he's scared of this concept because he's worried it will affect insurance policies.

01:49:40.000 They'll demand to see a smear, some of your spit, and they'll go, oh, fuck this. 0.98

01:49:45.000 We're not insuring you.

01:49:46.000 You have a 40% chance of prostate cancer, a 50% chance of this.

01:49:49.000 And then what's the point of insurance?

01:49:51.000 Because then insurance gets real weird.

01:49:52.000 It's not a gamble anymore.

01:49:53.000 It's like you could see the cards.

01:49:55.000 Like, let me see your cards.

01:49:56.000 No, I'm not gambling with you.

01:49:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:58.000 Now it's just a bank account.

01:50:00.000 Isn't that kind of what insurance is, right?

01:50:01.000 It's like, I look at you.

01:50:02.000 Hey, Gavin, let me take your blood pressure up.

01:50:04.000 Well, cough?

01:50:07.000 Okay, let me hit your knee with this little rubber mallet. 1.00

01:50:10.000 Everything seems okay.

01:50:12.000 Hey, how you sleeping?

01:50:13.000 Sleeping pretty good?

01:50:14.000 Well, okay, I'm going to give you a positive checkup and you bring it to the insurance company and you go, look, everything checks out.

01:50:19.000 You going to insure me?

01:50:20.000 They're like, hmm.

01:50:21.000 All right, we'll take a chance.

01:50:22.000 But it is taking a chance.

01:50:24.000 Do you smoke?

01:50:25.000 Oh, you smoke.

01:50:27.000 I don't like my odds there.

01:50:28.000 Do you drink?

01:50:29.000 I don't like my odds.

01:50:30.000 Well, as we're getting smarter, we're turning into those chicks in the hot tub and minority report. 0.97

01:50:35.000 And soon we'll be able to just go, I can't insure you.

01:50:38.000 You're dying on the way home today.

01:50:41.000 Oh, no.

01:50:41.000 But I say to him, I go, fine, let's get it out there.

01:50:44.000 The free market will figure out insurance for the doomed, some sort of catastrophic policy, but there'll be more money over here to even it out.

01:50:53.000 Information has to come out.

01:50:54.000 We need this information about inbreeding.

01:50:56.000 I think it explains the hijacking of Muslim religion. 1.00

01:50:59.000 You know, Hasidic Jews have the same problem, but they, because they're aware of this and the truth is out, they have all kinds of elaborate DNA tests they do on each other. 0.99

01:51:08.000 Not everyone takes it, but rabbis will encourage this for us to check you out and make sure you're not related and encourage this marriage because it makes the most genetic sense.

01:51:16.000 I had no idea.

01:51:17.000 You blew my mind with that information.

01:51:19.000 I'm hoping that Jamie's going to pull up something that shows that that's a right-wing hate group that's infiltrated the statistics.

01:51:26.000 It does seem to come on a lot of right-wing websites, so I'm trying to find more sources, but I'm trying to find another source.

01:51:30.000 Just try to find another source, and we'll continue to talk about other genetic things.

01:51:34.000 Are you aware of CRISPR?

01:51:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:51:37.000 That's some crazy shit.

01:51:38.000 And they've been given the green light to go ahead and start working on human fetuses.

01:51:43.000 I actually had this crazy theory in church the other day where I thought, is it possible that we're in heaven?

01:51:50.000 Like, you know how the concept of heaven is unfathomable, right?

01:51:54.000 It's something that's totally different from where we are now, and it's this infinite universe thing that our brains can't handle.

01:52:00.000 And then I was thinking, wait a minute, this sounds like a sperm trying to figure out what Earth is.

01:52:06.000 Maybe the sperm was us. 0.86

01:52:08.000 Being born was dying.

01:52:10.000 Now we're alive here on heaven and we're slowly getting closer and closer to perfection.

01:52:16.000 I mean, lifespan's been getting better.

01:52:18.000 The quality of life has been getting better.

01:52:20.000 We're going to die soon.

01:52:22.000 But in like 50 generations with CRISPRs and all this incredible genetic information, soon we might be able to just be like, we have cured your liver cancers.

01:52:33.000 Well, it's going to get really weird because they're going to be able to integrate the human beings that are here today with not just communication, not just visual information, but some sort of computer language.

01:52:44.000 Jamie and I were just talking about this yesterday where we were talking about emojis.

01:52:49.000 And, you know, and this is something that has been brought up before, that emojis are in many ways a lot like hieroglyphs.

01:52:55.000 And that you can say something with emojis that can kind of translate what you're thinking without an actual language.

01:53:05.000 And we were saying, we're going to get down to the only words you say are like yes and no, like yeah and no, like nods and affirmations and confirmations.

01:53:14.000 And the language that we speak could be some sort of a weird, universal, emoji-based language that's just expressed from mind to mind through some neural implants or some fucking Snapchat glasses we wear.

01:53:29.000 I mean, we're not too Far away from something really bizarre and paradigm shifting like that.

01:53:33.000 Well, I remember when downloading your brain was just science fiction movies.

01:53:37.000 And you know, you talk to people our age about their dead grandfather, and they go, I have this black and white photo, and I have this letter he wrote the newspaper in 1896.

01:53:47.000 That's all I got.

01:53:48.000 My life, my kids will never be able to read all the articles I've written or watch all the videos I've done.

01:53:54.000 They'll never get through them all.

01:53:55.000 They can watch them for 100 hours if they're bored, but there's way more of my brain permanently out there in the cosmos than they could ever want.

01:54:04.000 Oh, yeah.

01:54:04.000 For pictures and everything.

01:54:07.000 So the next generation, your dad isn't really going to die.

01:54:10.000 You can just hang out with him whenever you want.

01:54:12.000 Well, I'm sure you're aware of Ray Kurzweil.

01:54:14.000 You know, Kurzweil's thing is that he wants to somehow or another recreate his father because his father died when he was young.

01:54:22.000 And he has some information about his father and he has some DNA that obviously is his.

01:54:30.000 And he has, you know, photographs and memories.

01:54:33.000 And he wants to figure out a way to literally recreate his father and have a conversation with him.

01:54:39.000 That, I know you, you're an atheist, right?

01:54:41.000 No.

01:54:42.000 Oh.

01:54:42.000 I am a nothing.

01:54:44.000 This is, I feel like, you know, the beginning of Prometheus where he drinks that thing and then he deteriorates and goes into the water?

01:54:49.000 Yeah.

01:54:50.000 That's what I think the Big Bang was.

01:54:51.000 It was this beautiful microchip that just started the first domino and everything else is going to this place like the singularity is near, this incredible perfection that we're headed to.

01:55:02.000 And there's all these checks and balances along the way.

01:55:04.000 Like I was reading about Audrey Hepburn the other day and she was super skinny, right? 0.96

01:55:09.000 Breakfast at Tiffany's chick.

01:55:11.000 She grew up in, I think, Holland during the war.

01:55:15.000 And the Nazis cut off Holland from all supplies.

01:55:18.000 So they were forced to eat tulips.

01:55:20.000 And a lot of them, hundreds of thousands of them starved to death.

01:55:24.000 And Audrey Hepburn was from that world.

01:55:27.000 And she was a skinny chick who didn't need a lot of food. 1.00

01:55:30.000 And then all of her ancestors' kids became obese, big giant fat pigs.

01:55:38.000 And they say it could have been genetic memory where their bodies went, holy shit, you found Doritos?

01:55:46.000 I'm going to hold on to this because you're never going to find one again.

01:55:49.000 And I've noticed this in LA with all these Mexicans I see everywhere.

01:55:53.000 They seem more obese than the general populace.

01:55:56.000 And I think they have genetic memory from a generation or two ago where food was scarce and their bodies hold on to it more thoroughly.

01:56:04.000 We see this with American Indians all the time.

01:56:06.000 And major diabetes problems.

01:56:08.000 And it's genetic memory where these are the checks and balances.

01:56:11.000 And the fact that a cell can remember this through a generation is like, have you ever heard of cell memory?

01:56:16.000 Yeah.

01:56:17.000 Where you get an eye transplant and all of a sudden you're seeing the guy that killed that guy?

01:56:21.000 I've heard stories of that, but I don't know if it's ever been proven.

01:56:25.000 It's still in the gotta look it up department of my brain.

01:56:28.000 People getting organ transplants as well, where they have hungers, like they have a hunger, hunger pangs for something that they never craved before.

01:56:37.000 Right.

01:56:39.000 It's not known as Bigfoot shit.

01:56:40.000 It's known as, I think it was on 60 Minutes, but I know genetic memory is a real thing.

01:56:46.000 And I just see all of this as part of the bigger picture as we check and balance ourselves constantly improving.

01:56:52.000 And the left seems to always deny that, that there's this 45-degree line, even in the stock market.

01:56:57.000 If you invested right before the Great Depression and you had the patience to wait 10 years, you still would have been up.

01:57:03.000 So all the dips we've had, it's always been improving, improving, improving, improving.

01:57:07.000 Yeah, well, there's definitely some memories that are passed on between parents and children.

01:57:12.000 And they're trying to figure out exactly what's the mechanism, but they don't know.

01:57:16.000 What they do know is that they've done these studies with mice, and it's really fascinating.

01:57:20.000 They take mice and they put them in this cage that has a floor that they can give an electric shock to it.

01:57:26.000 And then they release a citrus smell.

01:57:27.000 The mice smell the citrus smell and then they zap them.

01:57:30.000 So they zap their feet.

01:57:31.000 So then these mice have children.

01:57:34.000 The children have never had this experience before.

01:57:36.000 The children are, they grow to full size and then they spray the citrus smell and they fucking panic.

01:57:42.000 No way.

01:57:43.000 They've never been zapped before, but they fucking panic.

01:57:46.000 They have an immediate reaction to it.

01:57:47.000 See, when I hear that, I go, how can people not believe in God?

01:57:50.000 Well, I don't know if it's a God thing.

01:57:51.000 I think it's a learned reaction to genetics that passed on from parent to child that is the reason for instincts.

01:57:58.000 It's the reason why irrational feeds.

01:58:01.000 Is magic kind of magic, but what is that magic?

01:58:05.000 I mean, what is the universe itself?

01:58:07.000 I mean, what is the magic that makes you see me?

01:58:10.000 What is the magic?

01:58:11.000 What is God?

01:58:12.000 I mean, it's a weird, limited expression to sort of make some sense out of something that's beyond our feeble mind and imagination at this point.

01:58:21.000 But I don't know if it's necessarily...

01:58:28.000 This could all be some sort of giant experiment.

01:58:30.000 And I go, way to have discovered God.

01:58:34.000 That's what it is.

01:58:35.000 It's the Matrix.

01:58:35.000 It's the first domino.

01:58:37.000 It's the machine.

01:58:39.000 You're not talking about God.

01:58:40.000 You're not talking about a guy who lives in the clouds with a heart.

01:58:42.000 That's us trying to get a grip on it.

01:58:44.000 That's us drawing a face on the guy.

01:58:44.000 Right.

01:58:46.000 Do you think it's a guy?

01:58:47.000 Like Wilson in Castaway.

01:58:48.000 You're just putting a face on a baseball glove or a volleyball.

01:58:51.000 Do you think it's a guy?

01:58:53.000 We say guy.

01:58:54.000 Sure, guy.

01:58:55.000 I don't know.

01:58:56.000 He's tranny. 1.00

01:58:58.000 If God is a really fat German guy with a dress and he's got a deep voice and he eats lipstick. 0.95

01:59:06.000 He's got lipstick all over his teeth.

01:59:09.000 Man hands.

01:59:11.000 He's got a twitch.

01:59:12.000 He's got fat all the time as he likes.

01:59:13.000 Yeah, he's got chip nail polish on his toes and disgusting feet that are shoved into some high-heel shoes.

01:59:21.000 Do you think it's a physical entity?

01:59:24.000 Do you think it's an energy?

01:59:25.000 It's inexplicable.

01:59:26.000 I mean, our meager.

01:59:27.000 That's why I thought of this whole sperm-to-human thing.

01:59:30.000 Because the only relationship I can see in front of me that mimics this is a pilages and a human being.

01:59:39.000 We're the pilages.

01:59:40.000 So if you said to a sperm, so what is this earth man like?

01:59:44.000 Does he wear a tie?

01:59:45.000 The sperm would just go, that's the word. 1.00

01:59:51.000 Those aren't words.

01:59:52.000 But it seems to me that when you say something is God or you say you believe in God, you're defining something.

01:59:59.000 Yeah, but you don't even know what you're defining.

02:00:02.000 Gratitude.

02:00:02.000 You go to church, and it's just about reverence and thank God that I'm here, and I really appreciate it.

02:00:08.000 Gratitude's huge.

02:00:09.000 That's Latin Mass.

02:00:10.000 You go to Latin Mass, and it's just like, Isam nap smaratu nus frita.

02:00:14.000 Like, I don't know what they're saying, but I'm in this incredible building that's that's blown.

02:00:18.000 I was talking to Milo about it once when he was last in New York, and I go, it is kind of unusual how good these churches are, like, how beautiful they are.

02:00:25.000 Do you feel like when the contractors were making them, like the stained glass, it was like they're on Adderall and they had this sort of divine intervention where they're like, holy fuck, I'm really good today.

02:00:36.000 Like, I can't believe how well this carving's turning out.

02:00:39.000 Have you been to Rome?

02:00:39.000 Jesus Christ.

02:00:40.000 Have you been to Rome?

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:42.000 Did you go to the Vatican?

02:00:44.000 Yeah, I think we went up to the wall.

02:00:46.000 I can't remember if we went in or not.

02:00:47.000 Oh, God, man.

02:00:48.000 You want to talk about something that'll blow your mind as far as like the religious undertones and the majestic magnificence of its construction.

02:00:58.000 St. Peter's Basilica.

02:01:00.000 I mean, the whole Vatican is incredible.

02:01:03.000 The artwork is just amazing.

02:01:05.000 I mean, we were there for hours and hours wandering around.

02:01:07.000 We had this really cool professor we hired as a guide who was amazing.

02:01:11.000 He told us all the history of everything.

02:01:14.000 But when you get to St. Peter's Basilica and he was explaining how many hundreds of years it took to build, and they're building all this shit with no electricity, no machines, no nothing.

02:01:23.000 Everything's massive and perfect and beautiful.

02:01:25.000 It's like you're looking at such an incredible work of art that's designed to inspire awe and reverence.

02:01:34.000 And it's the motivation behind building something like this fucking hundreds of years ago.

02:01:39.000 It's really, I think it's gratitude.

02:01:41.000 And you see this, my wife's American Indian. 0.99

02:01:43.000 And at all those ceremonies, we give thanks to the North, we give thanks to the West, we give thanks to the East.

02:01:49.000 And that's what church is.

02:01:50.000 It's just like, I don't know the details, but thank you for that.

02:01:54.000 Wow, my hands work.

02:01:55.000 Thank you so much for this.

02:01:56.000 Let's pray for other people.

02:01:58.000 I think that's a great way to live life, is living life with gratitude.

02:02:01.000 And I try to be thankful all the time.

02:02:03.000 I'm a very lucky person, and I've always been very lucky, and I'm always very thankful, too.

02:02:07.000 I try to be very generous.

02:02:08.000 I try to be very thankful.

02:02:10.000 I try to be friendly as much as I can.

02:02:11.000 And all those things I think sort of build onto it.

02:02:14.000 But to have it and define it and to put it into like a religion, that's where things can get awry because they can get screwy when you're sort of defining things by this ancient set of rules that was sort of established before we really understood science, before we really understood the laws of thermodynamics, the way the universe is formed, what we know now about the cosmos.

02:02:37.000 It's just there's so many variables that have to be taken into account when you're looking at an entire system, when you're trying to define what God is and what religion is.

02:02:48.000 And then you look at how restrictive religion has been in the past and how many people have suffered because the discoveries that they had didn't jive with the ancient texts.

02:02:59.000 You mean like Galileo and I think I guess.

02:03:04.000 I mean, the Catholic Church is very pro-science and has been pro-science for a long time.

02:03:09.000 Well, so is the Islamic Church. 0.91

02:03:11.000 For the longest time, Islam was like the foundation of science and the foundation of literature.

02:03:16.000 Like before Genghis Khan came riding into Iraq and fucked up Baghdad and turned the river red with blood and black with ink, as they said.

02:03:28.000 They were some of the best scholars in the world.

02:03:29.000 It was like some of the best mathematics, some of the best writing had come out of the Islamic world. 0.98

02:03:35.000 And they had been conquered and destroyed.

02:03:37.000 And so much of that was lost.

02:03:39.000 And the ebb and flow of these cultures, to us, seems like such a long time to go from 1200 to 2017.

02:03:47.000 But in the course of humanity, it's a blip.

02:03:50.000 It's a nothing.

02:03:51.000 Maybe they're right.

02:03:52.000 Maybe gays should be thrown off buildings. 1.00

02:03:54.000 They've scientifically proved it.

02:03:55.000 Maybe a lot of these rape victims are bitches that should have stones thrown at them. 1.00

02:03:59.000 Oh, wow.

02:04:00.000 Just kidding, internet.

02:04:01.000 You can't kid, man.

02:04:03.000 There's certain things you can't kid about, Gavin.

02:04:05.000 You know what I mean?

02:04:06.000 We're not allowed.

02:04:07.000 Thinking about the whole Catholics versus Protestant things goes back to the ultimate core of all arguments, which is nature versus nurture.

02:04:17.000 And the Catholics say some people are better than others. 0.86

02:04:21.000 Some people are special.

02:04:22.000 The Protestants say, we're all the same.

02:04:27.000 The guy up there on that pedestal isn't better.

02:04:29.000 And I vacillate myself, like you, for example.

02:04:32.000 Are you special?

02:04:34.000 Are you magic?

02:04:35.000 Are you blessed?

02:04:37.000 Like, you're on that show.

02:04:39.000 Your career has been so weird.

02:04:41.000 It seems like every time you get thrown out of a plane, we come back a few days later and you got a coconut stand and you're wearing a grass skirt and you're like, hi, come on in.

02:04:48.000 These are where everyone sits for their coconut juice.

02:04:55.000 And maybe you were kind of the Judaism seems to say that you're a chosen one, that there's some people who are picked by God, like that Da Vinci Code thing with Tom Hanks, where some people are just way better than others.

02:05:08.000 Like I was having dinner with Sean Lennon, but you got to get him on the show.

02:05:10.000 Yeah, you were telling me.

02:05:11.000 One of the most interesting guys I ever met in my life.

02:05:13.000 But he was, he's a Mason.

02:05:14.000 Him and Vincent Galloway are masons.

02:05:17.000 And during one of his doohickeys, I hope he doesn't mind me telling this.

02:05:20.000 But there are these like, it's a nasnatorato guys that are looking through like a wood thing.

02:05:25.000 And they invited him to the heavy shit one that's like made of gold and is through a book where you go upside down and you have to swim there and you come out of the thing and you wear a cloak and you hold like a diamond sword or something.

02:05:37.000 I'm just making that up, right?

02:05:39.000 Some super fancy one.

02:05:40.000 And he's like, I didn't do it because that's not me.

02:05:42.000 I'm not going to go to the fancy one.

02:05:42.000 I don't feel like doing that.

02:05:44.000 I want to be with my boys.

02:05:45.000 And I was thinking later, yeah, but maybe you are that Julianzarada Da Vinci code, guys.

02:05:52.000 Well, here's my take on it.

02:05:54.000 I think there's definitely nature and there's definitely nurture.

02:05:57.000 I think both are factors.

02:05:58.000 And to go nature versus nurture to me seems simple.

02:06:01.000 It seems too simplistic.

02:06:03.000 It seems too silly.

02:06:04.000 Because it seems to me like you're trying to pick a side where clearly both have massive amounts of energy.

02:06:10.000 Well, it comes down to percentages.

02:06:11.000 And I think they've discovered the frontal lobe where everything matters is 80 nature, 20 nurture.

02:06:18.000 And we see this with identical twins separated at birth.

02:06:20.000 One grew up rich in Paris, the other was poor in Detroit.

02:06:24.000 Similar dogs.

02:06:25.000 Husbands look the same, same car.

02:06:27.000 One does film critiques.

02:06:29.000 The other makes movies.

02:06:30.000 She's a line producer. 0.96

02:06:31.000 They are basically the same person.

02:06:34.000 Well, there's definitely gifts, right?

02:06:36.000 Some people are intellectually gifted.

02:06:38.000 We know people that are just really fucking smart.

02:06:40.000 They're just born really fucking smart.

02:06:42.000 They're smarter than me.

02:06:43.000 I talk to them.

02:06:44.000 I go, Jesus.

02:06:45.000 And then there's other people that are athletically gifted, like Michael Jordan.

02:06:48.000 Like, you can't, like, there's not a chance in hell.

02:06:51.000 Like, take Jonah Hill.

02:06:54.000 Jonah Hill could work every day, all day for the rest of his fucking life.

02:06:59.000 He's never going to play basketball like Michael Jordan.

02:07:01.000 It is impossible.

02:07:02.000 If Michael Jordan never worked out, ever, like, never, like, literally just kind of did normal stuff like everybody else does, like went to the gym, took a spin class, he could probably jump way fucking higher than Jonah Hill.

02:07:15.000 He could probably run way faster than Jonah Hill.

02:07:18.000 And he'd probably be better at anything he applied himself to athletically because he's got a gift.

02:07:23.000 He's clearly genetically gifted.

02:07:26.000 You know, I think the same could be said of Carl Malone.

02:07:28.000 Same could be said of Mike Tyson.

02:07:30.000 The same could be said of a bunch of great athletes.

02:07:34.000 The same could be said of Brock Lesnar.

02:07:36.000 No matter what you do, you can lift weights all your fucking life.

02:07:39.000 You're never going to be as strong as that guy who's the mountain.

02:07:42.000 True.

02:07:42.000 Thorne was his name, True.

02:07:43.000 Thorne Bjorsen or whatever the fuck his name is.

02:07:45.000 That gigantic mountain guy from Game of Thrones.

02:07:48.000 Like, that's a gift, man.

02:07:49.000 That guy's gifted.

02:07:51.000 100%.

02:07:52.000 And I'm glad you use sports as an analogy because the general understanding is there's this sort of line and it's a gray area and there's a guy who can throw a softball, a fastball at 10 miles an hour, 20 miles an hour, and it goes up to 100 and then there's a guy who can do 99, 98.

02:08:07.000 But I don't think it works like that with baseball.

02:08:09.000 I think there's like the 40 miles an hour people and then there's this floating bubble of the 100 mile an hour pitchers.

02:08:17.000 And these guys are magic.

02:08:18.000 They're very special.

02:08:19.000 They're the Da Vinci code children of Jesus.

02:08:22.000 Well, in fighting, in striking in particular, there is, well, it exists in grappling as well.

02:08:28.000 There's strength in grappling.

02:08:30.000 Some people have just freak strength.

02:08:31.000 But I believe that that could be nurtured more than striking strength.

02:08:36.000 When people are good hitters, strikers, like guys who are power punchers and power kickers, there's only so much you can teach someone.

02:08:43.000 You can teach someone proper technique, but power is something that's just given to you by the Great Beyond.

02:08:49.000 And no one understands it and no one knows why.

02:08:51.000 You could take two guys.

02:08:53.000 One of them looks exactly like the other one.

02:08:55.000 They're built the same.

02:08:56.000 They both have big muscles.

02:08:58.000 They both have big hands.

02:09:00.000 And one of them can punch a hole through the fucking universe.

02:09:02.000 And the other one can barely make the bag move.

02:09:05.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:09:07.000 And no one knows why.

02:09:08.000 You could take someone and their body looks completely unimpressive.

02:09:11.000 But when they hit people, people just go flat.

02:09:14.000 And no one knows why.

02:09:15.000 Well, why don't we transfer that hard truth to intellect?

02:09:19.000 Yes.

02:09:20.000 There's this myth that we all need to be educated.

02:09:22.000 We all have to go to college.

02:09:23.000 When my dad was young in Britain, you did your O-levels at 13.

02:09:26.000 And my dad had a high IQ.

02:09:28.000 So they sifted through just like a Pink Floyd video and they sifted him over to a scholarship in private school and they sifted his brothers over to work in a printing press.

02:09:28.000 His brothers didn't.

02:09:36.000 And they all did fine.

02:09:38.000 They had good jobs and they were taking advantage of their skills.

02:09:42.000 And then we came up with this idea where everyone had to go to college.

02:09:45.000 And now to lower the bar so everyone can get in, we have all these retarded classes. 0.99

02:09:49.000 There's a class at NYU called 20-something, where it's just about being 20-something.

02:09:55.000 Done.

02:09:56.000 Everyone there is 20-something.

02:09:59.000 And you go, now you just wasted your time by not admitting that some people are special.

02:10:03.000 And that's what I was getting at earlier with the Western culture thing.

02:10:05.000 Some cultures are better.

02:10:07.000 Some are more advanced.

02:10:08.000 There might be a satellite of people that are just magical.

02:10:11.000 Like Jimmy Kimmel, he kept having his career shat on when he was in sports radio.

02:10:16.000 He had this woman above him who was out to sabotage him.

02:10:19.000 He got sent down the shitter.

02:10:20.000 Yeah.

02:10:21.000 I never heard that story.

02:10:22.000 What was that about?

02:10:23.000 Ask him about it.

02:10:24.000 Some horrible cunt that tortured him every day. 1.00

02:10:27.000 Like your producer or something?

02:10:28.000 Yeah.

02:10:29.000 Wow.

02:10:29.000 He's so talented, though.

02:10:31.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.

02:10:32.000 Like, Michael Jordan, you throw him in Africa, and there'd be like, you have to meet this man who is in the Congo.

02:10:39.000 He can jump a million miles in the air.

02:10:42.000 His name is Juju Jordan.

02:10:44.000 And he has like a leather basketball.

02:10:46.000 And I don't know what it is.

02:10:47.000 I am so good at this.

02:10:48.000 He would be flown over like Jeremy Lynn or whatever.

02:10:51.000 And I think Jimmy Kimmel and you are the same.

02:10:53.000 They just, they get fucked over.

02:10:54.000 I've done it a million times.

02:10:55.000 I've thrown my career down the toilet, and then I just keep flying through the sewers and pop, I come out of another manhole.

02:11:01.000 Well, you've figured out a way now, particularly with your show, to let your personality shine through.

02:11:08.000 Like to like your unique way of looking at things, very thorough examination of the world around you and an honest take on it that also happens to be humorous.

02:11:17.000 But I did that with advertising.

02:11:18.000 I got involved in advertising.

02:11:19.000 I hated advertising.

02:11:20.000 That's stunning.

02:11:20.000 Built up an agency, sold it for millions.

02:11:23.000 Then we got fired because I said shitty stuff about trannies. 1.00

02:11:27.000 I pointed out their mentally ill-gazed. 0.99

02:11:29.000 Well, what you pointed out was that there's a lot of regret.

02:11:32.000 And that was where people were getting really uncomfortable.

02:11:35.000 And there is a website.

02:11:37.000 I think it's called transgenderregret.com.

02:11:40.000 Yes.

02:11:41.000 And you cannot tell me that any sort of major surgery doesn't carry some sort of regret.

02:11:47.000 When I was in my 20s, I had hair transplants.

02:11:50.000 I have a big scar on the back of my head.

02:11:52.000 You see that thing?

02:11:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:53.000 That's because they take a piece of meat out of the back of your head with hair on it.

02:11:57.000 Because my hair was falling out and I was on TV and I was like, fuck, if my looks go, I'm going to be poor again.

02:12:03.000 I'm losing my skin.

02:12:03.000 I'm fucked.

02:12:04.000 News radio?

02:12:05.000 Yeah.

02:12:06.000 And so while we were on hiatus, I had hair transplants.

02:12:09.000 They take a piece of meat back here, take the hair, and they move it all up in here.

02:12:13.000 And the way I, you know, it doesn't work because eventually the other hair falls out and it's just left with this mess.

02:12:18.000 But yeah, I regretted it.

02:12:20.000 It was a stupid thing to do.

02:12:22.000 And people make irrational choices that can become permanent.

02:12:27.000 And if you don't think that some people who decide that they would be happier as a woman and then become a woman and then are miserable because, first of all, their hormonal profile has changed, they don't have a penis anymore, they don't have their testicles anymore, they wish they could go back to where they were, you don't think that that's possible?

02:12:43.000 That those people who have major surgery could also possibly have major regret?

02:12:48.000 That is dishonest.

02:12:49.000 It's disingenuous.

02:12:51.000 And you're adhering to an ideology rather than looking at something in a completely objective And open and honest way.

02:13:02.000 You're using these people as pawns for your own virtue signaling, and it's murder.

02:13:06.000 It's like when you see toddlers, like at that Women's March, they had these toddlers thing with my pussy grabs back, and you're looking at a three-year-old and you're going, Jesus Christ, that's child abuse.

02:13:15.000 And I feel like these liberals are doing tranny abuse by normalizing such a drastic decision.

02:13:21.000 And it inevitably, I know this guy you're talking about, he writes for the Federalist all the time.

02:13:26.000 And he goes, what happens with these people is they have all these problems.

02:13:29.000 Clearly, you're nuts if you think you're a woman. 1.00

02:13:31.000 But they also have bipolar and they're schizophrenic and manic depression and all these other things.

02:13:35.000 They go, if I could just get rid of my cock and be a woman, it would be fine. 0.98

02:13:38.000 Then they do that.

02:13:39.000 And for a month, they're happy.

02:13:40.000 And then they realize, wait, the bipolar is still here.

02:13:42.000 I'm still depressed.

02:13:44.000 What the fuck have I done?

02:13:45.000 Holy shit, this isn't the cure-all solution.

02:13:48.000 Not only that, there's also this, there's a real problem in that you're not allowed to bring that up.

02:13:53.000 Like we know, when you look at the average person, whether they're gay or straight, the average people, men and women out there in the world, there's a certain amount that are going to be schizophrenic.

02:14:02.000 There's a certain amount that are going to have all sorts of mental illnesses, depression, etc.

02:14:06.000 There's a certain amount.

02:14:07.000 When you start talking about transgender people, you are no longer allowed to take that into consideration.

02:14:14.000 And you must treat every transgender person as if they are 100% mentally healthy, which is insanely rare in regular people. 1.00

02:14:22.000 People that are not transgender. 0.63

02:14:24.000 Cisgendered, if you were. 0.99

02:14:25.000 You use that term.

02:14:27.000 Cisgender. 0.99

02:14:27.000 That's what I said in that article that got me in shit. 0.99

02:14:29.000 I go, let's cut the shit here, okay?

02:14:32.000 You're looking at what's his name in Transparent, Jeremy, whatever his name is, the actor.

02:14:37.000 Sorry.

02:14:38.000 And who is that?

02:14:39.000 What is his name?

02:14:40.000 Jeffrey Tambour.

02:14:41.000 Jeffrey Tambor, yeah.

02:14:42.000 And you're supposed to look at him and go, yeah, that's an interesting struggle you're going through.

02:14:46.000 It's Mrs. Doubtfire.

02:14:47.000 Right.

02:14:48.000 I can't not laugh when I look at you.

02:14:49.000 It's comical.

02:14:50.000 And everyone just has this willful ignorance.

02:14:53.000 Like, I saw Laverne Cox on some dumb day-to-day show type thing at the hotel earlier. 1.00

02:14:58.000 And he's sitting there with his legs crossed going, yes, I met Beyonce, and I was so nervous.

02:15:03.000 I didn't even suck my stomach in.

02:15:06.000 And you're like, are we all pretending that you're not a dude?

02:15:09.000 Who is Laverne Cox? 1.00

02:15:10.000 He was on that show, Orange is a New Black.

02:15:14.000 I've never watched that.

02:15:15.000 No, me neither.

02:15:16.000 But he's a fan.

02:15:17.000 There's Janet Mock, there's Laverne Cox.

02:15:19.000 They're all the top ones.

02:15:20.000 Caitlin Jenner.

02:15:21.000 And whenever you see them, you go, you're a dude.

02:15:24.000 But sure, I'll sit here and clap and go, yes, you're gorgeous.

02:15:27.000 Oh, my God.

02:15:28.000 That is a problem.

02:15:30.000 That's a guy?

02:15:31.000 Wow, that's a huge guy.

02:15:33.000 Is that a giant?

02:15:34.000 Really?

02:15:35.000 Yeah.

02:15:36.000 And not a guy anymore.

02:15:38.000 How long has she been a girl?

02:15:39.000 I don't know.

02:15:40.000 You never get the straight answer from these people.

02:15:42.000 At least half of them pussy out of chopping their dick off. 1.00

02:15:45.000 Well, Caitlin did, right?

02:15:46.000 I don't think so, no.

02:15:48.000 Caitlin didn't.

02:15:48.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:49.000 I mean, did pussy out of it. 0.99

02:15:51.000 Didn't get it done.

02:15:51.000 Yeah.

02:15:52.000 There you go.

02:15:53.000 You go, girl.

02:15:54.000 Let's do it.

02:15:56.000 If there comes a time where through CRISPR or some other newfangled genetic manipulation, you can turn a man into a woman and then back and forth.

02:16:05.000 And you really can be gender fluid.

02:16:07.000 Like there's an Instagram page about gender fluidity.

02:16:11.000 And one of the things, it's like, I'm not a man.

02:16:13.000 Sometimes I'm a man.

02:16:14.000 Sometimes I'm a woman.

02:16:16.000 But I'm always a human.

02:16:17.000 Like, okay.

02:16:18.000 Okay.

02:16:19.000 You know, like, by the way, I don't care.

02:16:21.000 That's the other thing about, I'm not a homophobe.

02:16:23.000 I'm a homo bored.

02:16:24.000 I don't care who you fuck. 1.00

02:16:26.000 Like when you make out in front of my building, have a nice French session.

02:16:31.000 I don't fucking give a shit.

02:16:32.000 Shit with Michelle. 1.00

02:16:34.000 I see that sometimes with black and white couples.

02:16:34.000 And you see that?

02:16:36.000 Like in New York, they'll be walking in the train holding hands and looking indignant.

02:16:39.000 You know, hi, we're in love.

02:16:40.000 Got a problem with that?

02:16:42.000 Oh, congratulations.

02:16:43.000 You're fucking someone you're attracted to.

02:16:45.000 Ooh, way to go out there and blow minds. 0.90

02:16:49.000 You poor thing.

02:16:50.000 You're sucking your boyfriend's dick. 0.96

02:16:52.000 I'm stunned.

02:16:54.000 And I think that's why they get so mad, too, is I go, you're not a snowflake.

02:16:58.000 You're not transgendered. 1.00

02:16:59.000 You're just a fucking dude.

02:17:01.000 Well, when time moves on, and once we really do eliminate all the things that trouble us when it comes down to homophobia or racism, all these issues that really still do exist, you're going to be left with the actual human beings themselves.

02:17:19.000 So when no one is transphobic, when no one's homophobic and no one's racist, they can judge you for who you are.

02:17:25.000 We're there.

02:17:26.000 But we're not in a lot of ways because people get free passes if they are transgender, if they're gay.

02:17:32.000 Like a guy like Caitlin Jenner saying that he doesn't support gay marriage.

02:17:36.000 Like you get a fucking free pass.

02:17:38.000 Like you're getting a free pass.

02:17:39.000 But here's the best free pass that Caitlin Jenner got. 0.84

02:17:43.000 She fucking killed a person. 1.00

02:17:45.000 She slammed her car into some lady because she wasn't paying attention, slammed her fucking escalade and pushed her into oncoming traffic and the lady died and no one brings it up.

02:17:55.000 That's the freest free pass of all.

02:17:58.000 Took a life by completely being negligent.

02:17:58.000 Yeah.

02:18:03.000 And that's the problem with this bigotry of low expectations.

02:18:05.000 You put these people on a pedestal until they can do no wrong and they end up doing wrong.

02:18:09.000 I mean, that happened with Milo too.

02:18:10.000 He had a get out of jail free card.

02:18:12.000 He could say whatever he wants.

02:18:13.000 And the next thing you know, he goes too far in the devil's advocacy with 13-year-old sexual relationships.

02:18:18.000 And you go, come on, guys, let's just dial it in a bit here.

02:18:20.000 We're all the same.

02:18:21.000 Racism is over.

02:18:23.000 Homophobia is over.

02:18:24.000 Let's not say it's over.

02:18:25.000 Sexism is over.

02:18:26.000 It's over.

02:18:26.000 Racism is over.

02:18:27.000 I don't think it's over.

02:18:28.000 I think there's plenty of racist people.

02:18:30.000 Here's the deal with racism, okay?

02:18:32.000 I'm hiring.

02:18:33.000 Okay, I'm checking out your resume here.

02:18:35.000 Oh, you're an accountant.

02:18:36.000 Oh, you want to make 80 grand a year?

02:18:38.000 You saved your previous company $150,000 a year.

02:18:40.000 Well, that's a great profit for me.

02:18:41.000 I'm going to make $70,000 a year just hiring you.

02:18:43.000 I'm going to look like a champ.

02:18:44.000 My job will be more secure.

02:18:46.000 the company will make more money.

02:18:50.000 Yeah.

02:18:51.000 I didn't know you were black.

02:18:54.000 You're going to have to leave.

02:18:55.000 We're a Negro free zone here. 1.00

02:18:57.000 But you're only talking about hiring.

02:19:00.000 Okay, you're at a bar.

02:19:02.000 You're sitting there and you're like, I got my BLT.

02:19:05.000 You didn't toast the bread.

02:19:06.000 It's like socks.

02:19:07.000 You just put a sock on a tomato and some, and now when I touch it, it forms in the shape of my finger.

02:19:11.000 It's like a temperpedic mattress.

02:19:13.000 You can't fucking toast bread.

02:19:14.000 And then some black guy's like, I fucking hate when they do that. 0.97

02:19:16.000 Who has a sandwich that's not toasted?

02:19:19.000 And by the way, the Giants suck this year.

02:19:21.000 And you feel the same way about toast, the same way about the Giants, and you go, oh, yeah, I'm going to deny myself this interesting conversation because you're a Negro. 1.00

02:19:30.000 You're being rational, though.

02:19:31.000 Like, you're talking about rationality.

02:19:33.000 People are rational.

02:19:34.000 People are selfish.

02:19:35.000 Companies are selfish.

02:19:36.000 They don't deny themselves money.

02:19:38.000 They don't deny things that are going to make them money.

02:19:40.000 And people are selfish.

02:19:41.000 They don't deny themselves cool, interesting friends.

02:19:43.000 I think there's plenty of people today amongst us that are very racist.

02:19:49.000 What is racist?

02:19:50.000 Racist is prejudging someone based on the color of their skin or their ethnic origin.

02:19:55.000 So the guy likes all the stuff you like, but you refuse to see him as an exception to the one that you're going to know who likes all these things you like because if you're looking at it.

02:20:03.000 He's sitting at the bar.

02:20:04.000 Well, that's that one guy in your scenario.

02:20:06.000 Yeah.

02:20:06.000 Well, you know, you're painting some very simplistic scenarios that deal with a really complex issue.

02:20:12.000 People prejudging people and people not liking people or people identifying with other people that look like them, like you and me being two white guys.

02:20:20.000 Okay, the racist you're describing doesn't like black people.

02:20:23.000 I'm bringing up a scenario where if he sees a black person, say there is a racism, it's like this thin veneer, oily slick in the bathtub when you have brill cream and you take a bath.

02:20:35.000 All you got to do to go through it is just go, boop.

02:20:37.000 So the second that black guy says, I hate the Giants this year, that guy's racism just goes, boop.

02:20:42.000 I mean, I have so much more prejudice for people who wear flip-flops, for men who have those utility backpacks when they wear a suit.

02:20:48.000 What about man buns? 0.98

02:20:49.000 Stay-at-home dads.

02:20:50.000 Man buns, I don't think I could be yours. 0.95

02:20:51.000 Utility backpacks when they wear a suit.

02:20:53.000 You know when they have someone who has a suit on, but their backpack is all mountain climbery with ergonomic things.

02:20:58.000 That bothers you?

02:20:59.000 It drives me nuts.

02:21:01.000 Why does that bother you?

02:21:02.000 You should have a briefcase if you have a suit.

02:21:04.000 Are you mountain climbing to do your tax audit?

02:21:08.000 I mean, they want to have their laptop and all their books, and they want to carry it, and it's easy to carry things in your bag.

02:21:08.000 Well, what is that?

02:21:14.000 So find a canvas backpack if you must.

02:21:17.000 But what's the matter with carrying?

02:21:18.000 And I don't even like when people have rolling luggage.

02:21:21.000 You don't like rolling luggage?

02:21:22.000 No, you can't carry 20 pounds, you pussy. 1.00

02:21:24.000 Rolling luggage is easy to roll.

02:21:26.000 Yeah, so is wearing your PJs on the plane.

02:21:28.000 It's disgusting to do, but this is...

02:21:32.000 Yeah, that's great because you have a t-shirt on.

02:21:34.000 Okay.

02:21:34.000 So your backpack is actually more formal than your clothing.

02:21:39.000 That's fine.

02:21:40.000 I'm not measuring it.

02:21:41.000 I'm matching up correctly.

02:21:42.000 You're matching up just fine.

02:21:44.000 But if young Jamie with his IT tech slash comedians outfit, if he was wearing that and he had maybe like a certain type of backpack, what would he be allowed?

02:21:55.000 What's he got?

02:21:55.000 Oh, that seems perfect.

02:21:57.000 My problem with you, Jamie, is you shouldn't have anything on your t-shirt after 30.

02:22:02.000 But that's the fighter and the kid.

02:22:03.000 Yeah, promoting my friends.

02:22:04.000 That's all I'm going to do.

02:22:05.000 Wait a minute.

02:22:05.000 Okay, that's fine.

02:22:06.000 I'm doing my friends.

02:22:06.000 This is my friends.

02:22:07.000 This is my friend John Dudley's podcast.

02:22:09.000 Okay, you're doing an ad.

02:22:10.000 But people like the Ramones on your shirt when you're 40 or no one cares what bands you like at that age.

02:22:16.000 Wow.

02:22:16.000 Anyway, my general point is we all have our little quirks.

02:22:20.000 Your general point is you're very specific in what you allow people to do and not do.

02:22:24.000 I saw that.

02:22:25.000 You're very rigid.

02:22:26.000 I saw a guy, we were on Jamaica on vacation and it was an all-you-can-eat thing.

02:22:29.000 And he had his plate and he just, it must have been Irish.

02:22:32.000 He piled on three huge spoonfuls of mashed potatoes.

02:22:36.000 It took up most of his plate.

02:22:38.000 And I'm looking at him going, we're in fucking Jamaica.

02:22:40.000 There's jerk chicken, all this fancy shit.

02:22:42.000 And you're using up your whole meal on mashed potatoes, you fucking mick. 1.00

02:22:46.000 And I hated him for the rest of the trip.

02:22:49.000 I think I needed someone to hate on the trip.

02:22:51.000 So I would see him and he'd just be like eating an ice cream cone.

02:22:54.000 I'd just go, fuck you. 0.85

02:22:56.000 Wow.

02:22:57.000 Do you recognize that's your own personal issue?

02:22:59.000 It's a Scottish thing.

02:23:00.000 Same as booze.

02:23:01.000 We were at war for 800 years with the English. 0.53

02:23:03.000 And you're constantly looking to brawl.

02:23:04.000 The ones who don't like confrontation are extinct.

02:23:07.000 So Dr. Drew says this.

02:23:09.000 He goes, the reason that Scots are drunks is they like conflict, so they'll put a war in their body.

02:23:16.000 So they're going, oh, walking is hard.

02:23:18.000 I'm giving myself a handicap. 0.77

02:23:20.000 So we like struggle.

02:23:22.000 We like pain.

02:23:23.000 That's fascinating.

02:23:25.000 Even in fucking, I'm never totally enjoying it.

02:23:29.000 I'm always like, I got to last longer.

02:23:30.000 Think of Kevin Spacey.

02:23:32.000 Do the alphabet backwards.

02:23:33.000 Yeah.

02:23:33.000 Kevin Spacey?

02:23:34.000 What do you think of?

02:23:35.000 When do you think of Kevin Spacey?

02:23:36.000 Do you think of Kaiser Space?

02:23:36.000 Oh, dude.

02:23:38.000 You're going to call me tomorrow and go, thank you so much.

02:23:41.000 My wife can't walk today. 1.00

02:23:43.000 You imagine Kevin Spacey's head floating over the bed.

02:23:46.000 Not like dismembered and bleeding, just like his face, doing nothing, just staring at you.

02:23:46.000 Okay.

02:23:51.000 Just staring at you.

02:23:52.000 And it brings you two and a half minutes.

02:23:53.000 Do you imagine him as Kaiser Sose or as Frank Underwood?

02:23:57.000 I don't have strong feelings about him.

02:23:59.000 Like I've never seen that House of Lies show or House of Cards.

02:24:02.000 Okay.

02:24:02.000 Good show.

02:24:03.000 Very good show.

02:24:03.000 Sounds good.

02:24:04.000 I don't know why.

02:24:05.000 I'm into season three right now.

02:24:07.000 Oh, just started it.

02:24:08.000 I thought you were in it in it.

02:24:09.000 No, no, no, no.

02:24:10.000 I talked to a guy who was gay, and he goes, I'm with Kevin Spacey.

02:24:10.000 Into it.

02:24:13.000 And I go, can you tell him that I use him and all my friends do?

02:24:18.000 And he's like, no, I'm not saying that.

02:24:19.000 That's really mean.

02:24:21.000 And it never occurred to me that, yeah, you don't want to be known as the guy who can make you not come.

02:24:25.000 Yeah, nobody wants that.

02:24:27.000 But anyway, even fucking, I'm stressed out.

02:24:30.000 Even when Trump won, we had a big party.

02:24:32.000 We were all wearing Hawaiian shirts.

02:24:33.000 And when I saw Donald Trump president on the big screen in the bar, everyone started cheering.

02:24:37.000 My buddy Alan was just pouring beer in his head.

02:24:39.000 And I went, yeah, because I didn't want to bomb other guys out.

02:24:42.000 But my brain hadn't processed it yet, and I couldn't thoroughly enjoy it.

02:24:45.000 And then everyone picked me up and they were carrying me around the bar.

02:24:48.000 Yeah.

02:24:48.000 Do you have any problems with him being the president?

02:24:52.000 Because you seem pretty aware and pretty rational other than the way you make people dress and wear backpacks.

02:25:00.000 But do you have any problems with him being president?

02:25:04.000 Is there anything that disturbs you about it?

02:25:05.000 Oh, I'm totally open.

02:25:06.000 Like, if he starts fucking with the First Amendment, I'm going to drag him out of there by his heels.

02:25:09.000 I'm not excited about this son-in-law getting a job.

02:25:12.000 That sounds like nepotism to me.

02:25:13.000 What a coincidence.

02:25:14.000 Your son-in-law is the most qualified person for the job.

02:25:17.000 There's times when the tweets can be petty.

02:25:19.000 I don't know why we're talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger's ratings.

02:25:23.000 And no, I'm not excited about the travel budget, although he is doing a lot of shit.

02:25:27.000 But as far as what we've come out with and the amount of fucking left-wing backpadding that we've been going through for the past eight years, I'm fucking ecstatic.

02:25:39.000 What's the backpadding that you're talking about?

02:25:41.000 Oh, we're so wonderful and Obama is so great.

02:25:44.000 And, you know, you come to L.A. and you realize that everyone in this fucking city thinks Obama did an awesome job.

02:25:50.000 And they also think that Bill Maher is Christopher Hitchens.

02:25:54.000 Like, he's an intellectual demigod in this town.

02:25:57.000 Bill Maher's?

02:25:58.000 Every time I talk to someone, they go, oh, you should talk to Bill.

02:25:58.000 Yeah.

02:26:01.000 I'd love to see you in a room with Bill Maher.

02:26:03.000 I'm like, that's your intellectual heavyweight?

02:26:05.000 That's your main guy?

02:26:06.000 I think he would probably agree with you on a lot of things, which would really be confusing to them because he agreed with Milo on a lot of things.

02:26:12.000 And A lot of people are mad at him because of that.

02:26:14.000 And, you know, he said that Milo reminded him of a young Christopher Hitchens, except, you know, gay and foppish. 0.98

02:26:21.000 And he said a bunch of other things about him.

02:26:23.000 But he's like, you know, you just got to abandon some of what you're doing because some of what he's doing is fighting the good fight against irrational feminism that denies the biological differences between men and women and lies about the gender wage gap and all these different things that he does accurately point out, which people parrot all the fucking time and drives me nuts.

02:26:23.000 Yeah.

02:26:44.000 I've talked about it way too many times on the show, but that goddamn gender gap was in The Guardian yesterday. 0.96

02:26:49.000 And when Obama said it, I go, do you know that you're full of shit?

02:26:49.000 I know.

02:26:52.000 You know that's not true.

02:26:54.000 You know you have researchers.

02:26:55.000 Or are you knowingly repeating this myth because it gets votes?

02:26:55.000 Did you ask them?

02:27:00.000 Most people don't know it.

02:27:01.000 Smart people that I know who have not looked into it or haven't had debates about it with other people don't understand what the gender pay gap really is.

02:27:08.000 That it's simply a matter of working less hours and choosing different jobs.

02:27:12.000 It's not two people, one man, one a woman, working side by side doing the same job where the woman makes significantly less.

02:27:18.000 And that's what we're being led to believe.

02:27:20.000 And that is a real sticking point with feminism. 1.00

02:27:23.000 They're being dishonest in their portrayal of the issues of the workplace.

02:27:26.000 Well, you end up going.

02:27:28.000 You guys are making me think women are dumb. 0.84

02:27:31.000 So I don't, like that woman's march, I go, you guys are, I don't know what you're out to prove here, that your pussy has teeth. 1.00

02:27:37.000 You're making women look dumb. 0.99

02:27:39.000 Even the abortion thing, 50% of women are pro-life.

02:27:42.000 So why are you making this a gender issue? 1.00

02:27:45.000 It's an ethics thing.

02:27:46.000 It's like euthanasia.

02:27:47.000 But it has nothing to do with men or women.

02:27:50.000 Are you okay with abortion up to a certain age?

02:27:53.000 Not at all.

02:27:53.000 No?

02:27:54.000 So a week after conception when it's a bundle of cells the size of your fingernail?

02:28:00.000 No, do not kill that.

02:28:02.000 Wow.

02:28:02.000 No heartbeat, just a viable cluster of little sitting there.

02:28:09.000 You can suck it out with one of those tiny cocktail straws you don't really drink out of.

02:28:13.000 But they don't, do they?

02:28:14.000 They suck it out and they watch it splat against the plexiglass wall.

02:28:17.000 Drip down the side.

02:28:17.000 Swallow it.

02:28:18.000 Turns out it's good for your skin.

02:28:20.000 Look, if we can get down to morning after pills and that kind of stuff, I would love the debate to go there.

02:28:25.000 But right now, it's way too far down the line.

02:28:27.000 And you know what?

02:28:28.000 Speaking of Bill Maher, he doesn't have kids.

02:28:29.000 Angela Merkel doesn't have kids.

02:28:31.000 There's this lack of connection that these childless people have in our media and in our political system. 1.00

02:28:38.000 And there's an anti-kid culture going on that is ethnomasochism combined with laziness.

02:28:44.000 And it really is our death knell in many ways.

02:28:46.000 Like when I'm in Williamsburg with my fucking stupid dog that I would happily kill right now.

02:28:52.000 Why would you kill your dog?

02:28:54.000 I feel nothing for this dog.

02:28:55.000 It's my daughter's dog.

02:28:55.000 No.

02:28:56.000 It's a little Javanese puppy.

02:28:58.000 I don't fucking know.

02:28:59.000 It's a puppy.

02:29:00.000 You would kill the puppy?

02:29:01.000 Well, if it, you know, if it bit one of the kids, I could take a meat cleaver to its head and I would be on the phone as I did it.

02:29:06.000 It would be like preparing a chicken for dinner.

02:29:08.000 I feel nothing.

02:29:09.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:29:10.000 And when I have that dog, all these spinsters are, oh, what's his name?

02:29:13.000 Is it a boy or a girl?

02:29:15.000 Who fucking cares?

02:29:16.000 He's not going to wear a dress.

02:29:17.000 But when you're with your kids, who are toxic?

02:29:19.000 My son, my youngest, my four-year-old is so cute.

02:29:21.000 He's a freak.

02:29:22.000 Like, he's the elephant man of cuteness.

02:29:24.000 He looks away from people because they freak out.

02:29:26.000 He's garish.

02:29:27.000 He's so cute.

02:29:29.000 But they see them with disdain.

02:29:31.000 And I've noticed that not just in Hipster Williamsburg, but, you know, at Fox News, I would get that from people who didn't have kids.

02:29:37.000 You're sitting at Fox News and you're looking around the table and you're like, we're sitting here talking about family values and the future of America.

02:29:43.000 And I'm the only person in this entire panel with kids.

02:29:47.000 And I can't help but think that Angela Merkel's suicidal policy of bring in the refugees and fuck the whole country up is somehow linked to her childlessness. 0.86

02:29:57.000 It may be, it's certainly linked to her desire to not come off as racist or homophobic, or excuse me, Islamophobic.

02:30:04.000 Yeah, it's definitely linked to that.

02:30:05.000 Your life is parties and dinner parties.

02:30:07.000 You don't want things to be weird.

02:30:08.000 But when you have skin in the game, you go, I don't fucking care if you hate me.

02:30:12.000 I got to make sure that things are kosher for the boys.

02:30:15.000 Like Dana Lash. 0.98

02:30:17.000 She was a feminist raver with big fucking Jinko jeans in college and chain wallet. 1.00

02:30:23.000 And then she saw what feminism was doing to young boys and making them ashamed of being men.

02:30:29.000 And she had boys.

02:30:30.000 She went, whoa, whoa, we created a monster here. 0.99

02:30:32.000 And pivoted and became all about saying masculinity is A-O-K.

02:30:37.000 Fuck these feminists. 1.00

02:30:38.000 We were wrong.

02:30:40.000 Yeah.

02:30:40.000 It's weird times, man.

02:30:43.000 It's really weird times for people trying to define themselves now.

02:30:46.000 Just fucking breed.

02:30:47.000 I was talking to some asshole at a bar last night, and he's repeating what he saw in an Oliver Stone movie.

02:30:53.000 And I'm like, that movie's been debunked.

02:30:54.000 Michael Malas.

02:30:55.000 No, sorry.

02:30:55.000 Which movie?

02:30:56.000 Michael Moynihan.

02:30:57.000 The one about World War II and how Stalin was underappreciated and we have to understand that we shouldn't have gone into World War II and we shouldn't have fucked with the... 0.80

02:31:07.000 What movie is that?

02:31:08.000 Are you talking about the Untold History of the World?

02:31:11.000 I'm watching that right now.

02:31:12.000 Read Michael Moynihan's takedown of it.

02:31:14.000 He's a takedown of it.

02:31:16.000 God damn it.

02:31:16.000 I'll just say that.

02:31:17.000 Stone is an astounding anthropologist.

02:31:19.000 Well, he made out Stalin to be a fucking monster in it.

02:31:23.000 Oh, I thought he didn't do it up.

02:31:25.000 I thought Stalin came out real nice.

02:31:26.000 Really?

02:31:27.000 Did you watch the same thing I saw?

02:31:27.000 Yeah.

02:31:29.000 Did you watch it?

02:31:30.000 Yes.

02:31:31.000 How long ago?

02:31:32.000 When did it come out?

02:31:33.000 Four years ago?

02:31:34.000 Longer than that, I think.

02:31:35.000 A long-ass time ago.

02:31:37.000 But I was really interested in Moynihan's take.

02:31:40.000 And Oliver Stone had to respond to Moynihan's take.

02:31:42.000 Oh, okay.

02:31:43.000 Well, I'll have to read those two.

02:31:44.000 What is his name, Patrick Moynihan?

02:31:46.000 No, Michael Moynihan.

02:31:47.000 Who's Patrick Moynihan?

02:31:48.000 Why do I know that name?

02:31:49.000 I forget.

02:31:50.000 But I know that name, too.

02:31:52.000 But I'm listening to this fuckface, this 34-year-old fuckface.

02:31:56.000 He's with this, we've been with this woman for five years, and she's 29.

02:32:00.000 And I just said to him, just stop repeating a documentary you saw last night and go fucking propose, you pussy. 0.99

02:32:06.000 Did you not know him before this?

02:32:08.000 No.

02:32:09.000 This is...

02:32:13.000 My wife and I left the kids in Malibu, and we came to party and we got a hotel room, got laid.

02:32:19.000 It was awesome.

02:32:21.000 Nice being single again.

02:32:22.000 I don't know how these childless people are not fucking 24 hours a day. 0.99

02:32:25.000 They probably are.

02:32:27.000 But they don't want that to end.

02:32:28.000 They don't want the fun part to end.

02:32:30.000 They don't want to be racked up together and then contemplating divorce.

02:32:33.000 If you're out there right now and you're in a relationship with a girl, you guys live together, I don't know why she's allowed to wear clothes in the house. 0.72

02:32:38.000 The second she walks in the front door, nude.

02:32:40.000 We'll draw the blinds.

02:32:42.000 She should be nude at all times.

02:32:43.000 Don't you kind of want him to wear clothes so he can take the clothes off?

02:32:45.000 Nope.

02:32:47.000 If I didn't have kids, my wife would just be, there'd be a basket by the front door for clothes that she has to take off when she comes home. 1.00

02:32:53.000 You make her, huh? 1.00

02:32:54.000 Nude lady.

02:32:54.000 Yeah.

02:32:55.000 Rules.

02:32:55.000 High heels.

02:32:56.000 Oh, I'm getting a burner just thinking about it.

02:32:57.000 Leather underwear?

02:32:58.000 I would wear leather pants and an oversized baseball hat.

02:33:02.000 The peak comes out about a foot.

02:33:04.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:33:04.000 A flat brim?

02:33:05.000 I'd have a guitar player, plastic guitar, not plastic.

02:33:08.000 How about a ukulele?

02:33:09.000 I'd have a ukulele too, and clown shoes.

02:33:11.000 Clown shoes.

02:33:12.000 Yeah.

02:33:12.000 Those need to come back.

02:33:14.000 Actually, you know what's a hot outfit for a man to wear in bed is a white t-shirt and black socks. 0.93

02:33:19.000 And you're just like, I'm such an ugly pig man.

02:33:23.000 Spaghetti stains on.

02:33:24.000 I'm just like such a dad.

02:33:26.000 Big gut hanging out of the bottom of the t-shirt.

02:33:29.000 I'm a pig.

02:33:29.000 It's like my buddy Dan goes, he goes, smelling a woman's ass is a poor man's Viagra because you're grossed out by how much you like it.

02:33:37.000 And you're like, I'm a fucking pig.

02:33:39.000 And then, boy, a poor man's shit.

02:33:45.000 You're shocked by yourself.

02:33:46.000 You're like, that's hilarious.

02:33:47.000 I like this.

02:33:48.000 What the fuck?

02:33:48.000 Ew.

02:33:49.000 It smells like ass. 1.00

02:33:50.000 You're sticking your nose in it while you're eating her out from behind. 0.72

02:33:53.000 Joey Diaz calls that doing the pigeon.

02:33:59.000 We're piggish.

02:34:00.000 And on that note, should we wrap this up?

02:34:03.000 Yeah, let's wrap it up.

02:34:04.000 Gavin, thank you, man.

02:34:04.000 All right.

02:34:05.000 Always fun talking to you.

02:34:05.000 It's fun.

02:34:06.000 Yeah, appreciate it.

02:34:07.000 And tell everybody where they can see your show and listen to it and watch it.

02:34:11.000 My show is at compoundmedia.com.

02:34:15.000 I also do a video series on the Rebel.media.

02:34:18.000 And I have a regular written column, story coming out tomorrow about Milo at tachymag, T-A-K-I, tachymag.com.

02:34:28.000 And compound media is all Anthony Cumia stuff.

02:34:31.000 That is correct.

02:34:32.000 He changed the name because of that stupid bitch. 1.00

02:34:34.000 That's where he has a reputation.

02:34:37.000 He's fucking damaged goods now.

02:34:39.000 I didn't even know it was still going on.

02:34:41.000 I thought it was over.

02:34:42.000 It is, but comedians are such pussies these days that they don't want to fuck up their future, you know, Kevin Kinwait show. 0.99

02:34:51.000 And on that note, we'll be back tomorrow with former UFC Bantamweight champion Dominic Cruz.

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The Joe Rogan Experience - February 23, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #920 - Gavin McInnes

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