The Joe Rogan Experience - February 24, 2017


Joe Rogan Experience #922 - Philip DeFranco

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Donald Trump Hillary Clinton Michelle Obama Caitlyn Jenner Jamie George Takei Well Milo Yiannopoulos Philip DeFranco Bruce Jenner Tommy Lahren Jump Kellyanne Conway Richard Spencer Gavin McInnes Charlie Hebdo Barack Obama Leslie Jones Dominic Cruz Jesus Christ Dick Cheney and 44 more
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In this episode, we talk about a bunch of different things. We talk about the new iPhone 7, the movie Arrival, and a lot of other stuff. We also talk about how much we hate swipey keyboards and why we don't like them. We also get into why we think it's a bad idea to have a kid with cancer and why it doesn't make you angry. And we talk a lot about why you shouldn't be mad at people who are mad at you for watching a movie that you don't care much about. We don't even care about the movie, we're just mad at the fact that your kid has cancer and you're sad about it. Also, we discuss why you should be mad about it and how you should feel about it, and how it's okay to be sad about something that doesn't really matter to you. Thanks for listening to this episode of the podcast, and stay tuned for the next one! -Jon Sorrentino Don t forget to SUBSCRIBE on iTunes and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! If you like the podcast and/or have a question/suggestions for future episodes, we'll be looking out for you on Anchor.fm/jordanandrews and we'll do our best to answer them. Thank you so much love and support you! Jon and Jon are always grateful for your support and support the podcast. Thank you Jon and his support is so much appreciated! - Thank you for listening and supporting the podcast with your support, Jon is a great human being a lot more than you can do you can be a good human being an awesome human being and a good friend and a wonderful human being. Jon is the best human being in the world. Timestruck and a great friend of a human being, thank you for letting us know that we can do that. -Trying to help us all be a little bit more of a day to us all can do a little more than that, and we appreciate it. -Jon is a very much, and he's so much more than he can do more than just that can do it, so we can help us do that and we're grateful. . Jon s a lot, and thank you, so much so, too much more, so thank you... thank you Jon is grateful, Jon and we really appreciate it, Jon.

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00:00:00.000 Young Jamie...
00:00:11.000 Oh! 0.60
00:00:12.000 Philip DeFranco.
00:00:12.000 All right, buddy.
00:00:13.000 I'm good, man.
00:00:14.000 It's cracking.
00:00:14.000 I'm good.
00:00:15.000 All the conversation we had right before, it's going to be the good stuff, and then all this is going to be two hours of bad news. 0.98
00:00:19.000 Yeah, we shit on some movies and got mad about Republicans and talking, and then we got mad about Democrats. 0.80
00:00:26.000 You're putting a we in an I statement. 0.98
00:00:28.000 Yep.
00:00:29.000 I'm lopping you in.
00:00:31.000 I was just being your therapist, man.
00:00:33.000 Oh, thanks, dude.
00:00:34.000 Sweet.
00:00:35.000 So sweet of you.
00:00:36.000 Isn't that what a podcast is?
00:00:37.000 Yes.
00:00:37.000 You're just like, let me hear what you're saying, but then let me talk about the world.
00:00:41.000 In a way, yeah.
00:00:42.000 Is that a phone?
00:00:43.000 That's a tiny little one.
00:00:44.000 It's a tiny one, man.
00:00:45.000 Oh, you got the little tiny iPhone?
00:00:47.000 Yeah, this is for my daily example of why I need to be patient.
00:00:51.000 I had an iPhone 6 Plus, the biggest storage.
00:00:54.000 I was really happy with it, and I was like, man, I need to get that iPhone 7. And the only one they had was the small one with the smallest storage, and it's a piece of garbage. 0.96
00:01:02.000 You don't like it?
00:01:03.000 No, well, just because I'm like, you know, I don't need that much storage.
00:01:06.000 I'll use the cloud, but I don't because I don't trust the cloud. 0.98
00:01:10.000 Ooh, scared of all those dick pics getting out. 0.99
00:01:11.000 All the dick pics. 1.00
00:01:13.000 Yeah, just gigs of them. 0.99
00:01:16.000 I think that's the good thing about not being extraordinary in any way.
00:01:18.000 I'm not doing that.
00:01:20.000 You don't have to worry about your dirt.
00:01:22.000 Yeah, I'm just like, eh, no one needs to see it.
00:01:24.000 So you just ran out of, what is it, like a 32 gigabyte or something like that?
00:01:26.000 Yeah, so it's like, I have to, I'm like, which memory will I delete before I can make new ones?
00:01:31.000 Oh, that's annoying. 0.99
00:01:32.000 It makes me be a little bit selective, but, I don't know, in this day and age, it's stupid. 0.99
00:01:35.000 Does it bother you that it's small? 0.98
00:01:37.000 Um, not as much.
00:01:39.000 But you get used to it, right?
00:01:40.000 Yeah, you get used to that big one.
00:01:41.000 What do you have?
00:01:41.000 I have the 7 Plus.
00:01:43.000 Yeah, man.
00:01:43.000 When you're looking at websites in particular, where you don't have to expand the screen to get the entire thing, you don't have to go back and forth to get the entire article.
00:01:51.000 And there's little tricks that people don't know, where it's like you double tap, not push in, but double tap, and all that shit that's on the top of the screen, it comes down for you.
00:01:59.000 They just use it for people with tiny hands. 0.90
00:02:02.000 Oh, yeah, that's right.
00:02:03.000 If you double tap the home button, right?
00:02:06.000 There's stuff they made for people that just...
00:02:09.000 Don't fit the standard, and you just use them. 0.92
00:02:13.000 And then fucking BuzzFeed calls it life hacks. 0.90
00:02:16.000 And they're like, 10 things you didn't know. 0.98
00:02:18.000 Life hacks. 0.99
00:02:18.000 Let's get 7 million views off of some basic shit. 0.99
00:02:21.000 There was that one phone that they had, I guess it was the iPhone 4, that had the sharper edges on the side, and it was very narrow. 0.98
00:02:29.000 That's the perfect size phone for texting.
00:02:31.000 You think so?
00:02:32.000 Yeah, it just fits in your hand perfect.
00:02:34.000 It locks in place.
00:02:35.000 I can text with one hand with this thing, but...
00:02:39.000 Not that easy.
00:02:40.000 It's a little slippery.
00:02:42.000 You just gotta switch to that swipey keyboard.
00:02:44.000 Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:02:45.000 No?
00:02:46.000 Why?
00:02:46.000 I've seen people do that.
00:02:47.000 Brian Callen did that for a while.
00:02:48.000 It makes you angry?
00:02:49.000 No, it doesn't make me angry.
00:02:52.000 My friend Brian Cowan was trying to show me how good it was.
00:02:55.000 Like, look, look, look at our right.
00:02:56.000 I just go from here to here. 0.99
00:02:57.000 And he fucked it up a few times. 1.00
00:02:59.000 I'm like, that thing can go fuck off. 1.00
00:03:01.000 Just from this five minutes of before and after, it's like, I hate swipey keyboards and movies where kids have cancer. 1.00
00:03:06.000 Two things I won't stand for.
00:03:08.000 They're pulling on your heartstrings.
00:03:10.000 They show you cancer, and a kid has cancer right away.
00:03:14.000 Like, look, you could have made me sad in a less brutal way.
00:03:18.000 So are you okay if in the trailer they let you know the kid has cancer?
00:03:21.000 No. 1.00
00:03:22.000 That's fucking stupid. 1.00
00:03:23.000 I see what they're doing. 1.00
00:03:25.000 It's like, get out of here.
00:03:27.000 We're talking about Arrival. 0.77
00:03:28.000 I didn't even watch the movie. 1.00
00:03:29.000 I watched the movie for three minutes, the girl had cancer, and I'm like, fuck you, and I hung it up. 1.00
00:03:35.000 I'm going to sleep. 1.00
00:03:36.000 I'm not going to watch this.
00:03:37.000 I don't want to go on this depressing journey right before bed. 0.99
00:03:40.000 It's going to give me fucked up dreams. 0.97
00:03:41.000 So uninterested in depressing movies. 0.99
00:03:44.000 I know.
00:03:45.000 I read the news.
00:03:47.000 I watch television. 1.00
00:03:49.000 I pay attention to internet videos from all over the world of depressing shit. 1.00
00:03:53.000 I know it's real. 1.00
00:03:54.000 Yeah.
00:03:55.000 I think the moment I had my first kid, I was like, okay, this is my realization that at any point I could have the most damaging pain in the world.
00:04:04.000 So I get that I don't need to be depressed and reminded of that at every moment, because that's what I'm constantly thinking about.
00:04:09.000 When I'm not having a happy moment, I'm like, how could the world completely fuck up my whole being? 0.95
00:04:15.000 Yeah, I'm more interested in funny things these days or really stupid horror movies. 0.99
00:04:21.000 Is that just escapism from like the fucking insanity that we're dealing with? 1.00
00:04:25.000 Yeah, that's all it is. 0.99
00:04:26.000 It's all escapism.
00:04:27.000 I mean even Game of Thrones or you know like House of Cards which is like about politics itself.
00:04:33.000 Total escapism.
00:04:34.000 These are not real people.
00:04:36.000 Yeah, but that's what I end up finding is I end up rooting for people I'd normally wouldn't root for, right?
00:04:41.000 So in House of Cards, I'm totally rooting for him.
00:04:43.000 And Breaking Bad, even in the final season, when he's doing all that fucked up stuff, I'm like, yeah, Walter White, I'm with you, man. 0.93
00:04:49.000 I'm with you. 0.50
00:04:49.000 I didn't watch the final season. 0.50
00:04:51.000 I didn't get that far.
00:04:52.000 But, uh, I'm in the middle of, uh, I'm, like, season three right now of House of Cards.
00:05:00.000 Okay. 1.00
00:05:00.000 And yeah, Kevin Spacey's a goddamn murderer. 1.00
00:05:02.000 I'm trying to remember if the third season's kind of like the, like, meh season before, because last season, the last season was amazing. 0.99
00:05:08.000 What is it, like, how do they have five out?
00:05:10.000 Four?
00:05:11.000 Is it four?
00:05:11.000 Yeah, so three, I think, was kind of, it just felt like a set-up season.
00:05:14.000 I'm burning through them, man. 0.86
00:05:15.000 I'm fucking cooking through them, watching, you know, four or five a week. 0.99
00:05:18.000 Yeah. 0.98
00:05:19.000 I mean, if you haven't started that, like, episode one of season two, that's where I was like, okay, I'm in.
00:05:24.000 I'm in.
00:05:24.000 This is, because I feel like you always have to have that one episode where you don't know what's going to happen.
00:05:29.000 Where you're like, okay, I'm on fucking shaky ground.
00:05:32.000 This isn't something that I'm going to watch while I'm cooking dinner and not really paying attention and not miss anything out. 0.98
00:05:37.000 That's like scandal. 0.94
00:05:38.000 You're like, okay, they're going to go on some fucking eight-minute monologue where it's like, you can't do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.96
00:05:44.000 And then you're just like, what happened? 0.96
00:05:45.000 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:05:46.000 Whatever bullshit. 0.99
00:05:47.000 Well, escapism is... 0.99
00:05:49.000 I mean, it's fun.
00:05:51.000 But after a while, I think it just runs its core.
00:05:55.000 I think just absorbing media, just taking in too much.
00:05:58.000 After a while, you just get extremely jaded. 0.99
00:06:02.000 I've seen people that are tweeting about things online, and they go, God, that guy's fucking jaded, man. 0.99
00:06:08.000 People are so jaded. 0.99
00:06:09.000 And then you realize, like...
00:06:11.000 The amount of information, the amount of data that people are getting on a daily basis, you're not designed for this.
00:06:17.000 No one's designed to have unlimited options for entertainment viewing at your disposal, on demand, all the time. 0.97
00:06:25.000 If you ever want a quick reminder of how ADD and how true that is, just look at your fucking, not you specifically, but your own Twitter history. 0.68
00:06:33.000 I'll go from talking about something deeply political and I'm like, this fucking craziness, to like, did you Did you see tonight's episode? 0.99
00:06:40.000 And there's like a difference of five minutes. 0.84
00:06:41.000 Right, exactly.
00:06:43.000 And it's just, everything's always happening.
00:06:45.000 Yeah.
00:06:45.000 And I just, I don't get it, I'm critical of it, but I'm part of it, you know?
00:06:50.000 Well, we're definitely changing, and our attention span is changing.
00:06:55.000 And probably not for the better.
00:06:57.000 And we're, like, accustomed to things being quick and rapid.
00:07:02.000 Like, here's a perfect example.
00:07:03.000 The way you guys edit your videos.
00:07:05.000 You don't have any pauses.
00:07:07.000 You're not human in your video.
00:07:09.000 That is because I got, like, a C- in public speaking.
00:07:12.000 No, but everybody does it.
00:07:13.000 Everybody on YouTube does it.
00:07:15.000 They all do that thing where they take out all the ums and pauses and they go from one thing to the other.
00:07:21.000 Well, because it is a battle of attention and battle of eyes.
00:07:24.000 But I think people are seeing more and more, especially even the YouTube algorithm, podcasts.
00:07:30.000 I think that there is 100% always going to be an audience for longer form things.
00:07:34.000 My videos started out as, it was even in the little intro sequence, it started out as three to four minutes.
00:07:40.000 Let me talk about the world for three or four minutes.
00:07:41.000 My videos now are 10 to 18 minutes every day.
00:07:44.000 Granted, a lot more is happening every day under this new presidency and stuff like that, but there is an audience that wants more.
00:07:54.000 And so you had the Vine guys, but even, I mean, Vine's dead now, but those guys have now launched into longer form pieces where some of it is three to four, and then some are daily 10 to 18 minute pieces.
00:08:05.000 So I think there's always going to be an audience.
00:08:08.000 People are tuning in longer, more than ever, because the internet was tuned in for six seconds, 15 seconds, one minute, three to four, and it's just getting longer and longer.
00:08:19.000 But it's not even just the longer and longer.
00:08:20.000 Even if you do a three-minute thing, you're still going to edit out all those little tiny gaps in between sentences.
00:08:26.000 What's that about?
00:08:27.000 It's just getting out as much information.
00:08:29.000 If I stopped cutting out my pauses, my videos would be five minutes longer.
00:08:33.000 It'd be a nightmare.
00:08:35.000 Really?
00:08:35.000 Yeah.
00:08:36.000 Yeah, because my videos, I don't script.
00:08:39.000 I'm not reading from everyone else or from something someone else wrote.
00:08:43.000 I do all my own research.
00:08:45.000 It's me taking all the information and then just going on this word soup rambly thing for five minutes to make a three minute piece.
00:08:54.000 Do you feel like you take in too much data?
00:08:57.000 Because you're doing all this?
00:08:58.000 You have to.
00:08:59.000 I have to.
00:09:00.000 You have to.
00:09:01.000 You know, the main difference between, I think, the last time I came on here, which was about two years ago, and now, is back then I was kind of scared to share my opinion, right?
00:09:11.000 So I was just kind of repetition of...
00:09:14.000 Reddit stories that popped up, and things that popped up on websites of, like, this thing happened.
00:09:19.000 Anyway, here's the next thing that happened.
00:09:21.000 So you're more of an aggregator of things that have happened?
00:09:24.000 I feel like I was then, and now it's more of, because no one trusts anything, right? 0.97
00:09:28.000 Where we talk about right-wing or left-wing people being in their own bubbles, and, you know, we go in like, I know, I know the truth, but you might not, because you're just sticking to the stuff that you believe in, and then you see something from an outside source, and you go, well, that's bullshit. 0.93
00:09:42.000 That's on BuzzFeed. 0.97
00:09:43.000 Right.
00:09:44.000 Well, and that's the problem. 0.81
00:09:47.000 I mean, BuzzFeed really, in my opinion, fucked themselves with the way that they released those documents that couldn't be completely confirmed, right? 0.99
00:09:53.000 With the whole, like, Trump and the prostitutes peeing on the bed stuff. 1.00
00:09:57.000 And they're like, we can't confirm it. 0.61
00:10:00.000 And neither can any of the other places that have gotten this information.
00:10:04.000 Can't confirm it.
00:10:05.000 But there is this piece of paper that says that it may have happened.
00:10:08.000 Well, what's even worse is all these mainstream news sources were doing it.
00:10:12.000 They were all releasing this story, the salacious details on the story of Donald Trump and the Russian prostitutes.
00:10:18.000 Water sports. 1.00
00:10:20.000 They're like, let the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:10:22.000 Just the way it read, I immediately called bullshit. 1.00
00:10:25.000 I'm like, do you really think that he has people pee on him? 0.99
00:10:29.000 Do you really think people pee on the bed and he wants them to pee on the bed and he watches? 1.00
00:10:33.000 Like, fuck off. 1.00
00:10:34.000 So that's the problem, right? 1.00
00:10:35.000 That's not even the actual thing that the story was, but that's what it turned into.
00:10:39.000 The whole story ended up being, or was supposed to be, that Barack Obama and Michelle Obama stayed in the hotel room.
00:10:46.000 Right.
00:10:46.000 He hated them so much.
00:10:48.000 That he hired hookers to come and pee on the bed. 1.00
00:10:50.000 Not on him, right? 0.99
00:10:51.000 Right, on the bed. 0.89
00:10:52.000 Yeah, but then everyone made it like, oh, he likes to pee on his face.
00:10:55.000 And it was like, what?
00:10:56.000 And they became this example of, as long as it's hilarious enough, I forget who said it, as long as it's hilarious enough, people will just roll with it.
00:11:02.000 But it's so hack.
00:11:03.000 It's not even hilarious.
00:11:05.000 It's like, that's like what a hack premise writer would write. 0.98
00:11:09.000 Like if you want to write a hack story, a hack scene in a movie about a crazy person, he hires all these hookers, yeah baby, come on pee on daddy. 1.00
00:11:18.000 You know, it's like, it's so stupid. 0.99
00:11:19.000 I feel like if you heard that, though, and you're like, oh, it's like a coke-fueled businessman from the 80s, you'd be like, yeah, that probably happened. 1.00
00:11:25.000 Right.
00:11:25.000 But not in today's world.
00:11:26.000 Well, not only that, you don't think Donald Trump would check his hotel room for cameras?
00:11:32.000 Oh, right.
00:11:32.000 Like, really?
00:11:33.000 Right.
00:11:33.000 You don't think that a multi-billionaire who's kind of a freak would go into that thing and have someone scrub the room and have some expert...
00:11:43.000 Yeah, man.
00:11:43.000 He's probably super paranoid.
00:11:45.000 He's fucked over so many people. 0.99
00:11:46.000 Maybe that's why we don't see the tax returns. 0.98
00:11:48.000 He's paying all these people off.
00:11:50.000 Exactly.
00:11:51.000 That tax return thing is really bad.
00:11:53.000 Does that bother you still?
00:11:54.000 Yes.
00:11:54.000 I know that it bothers a lot of people.
00:11:56.000 Well, it should.
00:11:57.000 I think, you know what?
00:11:57.000 I think it's easy to argue that, you know, well, people aren't going to be able to understand it.
00:12:03.000 What?
00:12:03.000 No, so where people are going to go, well, it's going to be misconstrued, but it's an honest question.
00:12:09.000 Have you heard that argument?
00:12:10.000 Yes.
00:12:11.000 That's going to be...
00:12:11.000 Taxes are going to be misconstrued?
00:12:13.000 Yeah, they're going to take the smallest things on TV, and I mean, the media does it at times, and they're going to expand on it and make it this crazy thing.
00:12:22.000 The same example with the urination story.
00:12:25.000 All of a sudden, I look to Facebook, all my left-leaning friends...
00:12:27.000 Yeah, but that's not a real story.
00:12:28.000 Right, but it started out as a core thing.
00:12:31.000 Right, but... 0.99
00:12:31.000 He pays for this, and then it turned into Donald Trump likes getting peed on. 0.99
00:12:35.000 I understand what you're saying, but the problem is that taxes are an actual real thing.
00:12:39.000 100%.
00:12:39.000 The tax return is very clear and concise.
00:12:42.000 Right.
00:12:42.000 So they're going to say, well, look at this money.
00:12:44.000 It could have been all these things.
00:12:46.000 And then it's not it could be.
00:12:47.000 It is.
00:12:48.000 That's an argument.
00:12:49.000 It's not one that I agree with. 0.73
00:12:50.000 And I would prefer to actually see, because I am a big fan of get as much information out as possible so that we can actually break shit down.
00:12:58.000 Well, every single president has done it before him. 0.62
00:13:01.000 That's what's so unprecedented about it.
00:13:02.000 And he has multiple business ties, apparently, with Russia.
00:13:06.000 And he owes a shitload of money to China.
00:13:09.000 Like, those things are massive factors.
00:13:12.000 And he has these business ventures that he has in all these countries all over the world.
00:13:16.000 What's really crazy is his sons are running his business now.
00:13:20.000 Right.
00:13:20.000 So his sons are getting flown around with Secret Service details all on the country's dime.
00:13:25.000 He's spending more money on travel in seven months than Obama did in eight years.
00:13:31.000 That's the projection.
00:13:33.000 If things go...
00:13:34.000 Really?
00:13:34.000 Yes.
00:13:34.000 Okay, I have to look at the numbers.
00:13:36.000 Yeah, see if you can find it, Jamie.
00:13:38.000 Because for me, that's like...
00:13:39.000 That was New York Times, I'm pretty sure.
00:13:41.000 Because for me, that's the whole premise of my show now is...
00:13:45.000 You're making that argument of why we should.
00:13:47.000 I then, on my show, mention that argument.
00:13:50.000 I then go into the argument of how it could be misconstrued.
00:13:52.000 And then I separately give my opinion, which I personally believe that we should get the tax returns.
00:13:56.000 But it's not even an opinion thing.
00:13:57.000 It's law.
00:13:59.000 He's supposed to release his tax returns.
00:14:01.000 That's what you're supposed to do.
00:14:04.000 But don't you remember?
00:14:04.000 There's the whole audit.
00:14:06.000 That audit, which will go on to the end of time.
00:14:08.000 None of it makes any sense.
00:14:09.000 I mean, how long does the audit last?
00:14:11.000 Who's auditing it?
00:14:13.000 Right.
00:14:13.000 And I mean, the hard thing is the story, there's like eight stories every day.
00:14:17.000 I feel like because I haven't seen Kellyanne Conway on TV as much lately, it's less of the case.
00:14:23.000 And there was even, it felt like two days where Donald Trump didn't tweet, which was unprecedented.
00:14:28.000 But it's overloading.
00:14:30.000 Yeah, because there are a lot of people that'll ask me why didn't you cover a certain story and it's just I am one guy making like at that time a 16-minute show that I'm trying to explain things properly So how am I going to how am I going to get a point get across all the points?
00:14:43.000 Yeah, look at this in Forbes Trump's family cost his trips to cost taxpayers nearly as much in a month as Obama's cost in a whole year Yeah, the whole thing is very bizarre.
00:14:55.000 And what's really crazy is he was very critical of Obama, President Barack Obama's vacations, costing taxpayers millions of dollars.
00:15:04.000 Unbelievable.
00:15:05.000 What about you?
00:15:07.000 Hey man, but he's going to be, you have to think about the net.
00:15:09.000 You're going to save all that money from all the fewer regulations, right?
00:15:13.000 Something?
00:15:14.000 Something.
00:15:15.000 Dude, we're not saving any money from fewer regulations.
00:15:17.000 We're going to have to clean all those ducks that get covered in oil. 1.00
00:15:21.000 The whole thing. 1.00
00:15:22.000 The whole thing's so fucked. 1.00
00:15:24.000 It's so fucked. 1.00
00:15:25.000 It's hard. 0.99
00:15:26.000 I mean, but even like, you're throwing out your opinions now, and I think that it's important to have those people, but I think it's also then important to take the time to look into where the Fox News, the Breitbarts, the Donald, all those places, where they're coming from as far as where their opinions come from.
00:15:41.000 Well, also Salon.com, Huffington Post. 0.94
00:15:44.000 I mean, we've got two echo chambers on the left and on the right, and the sound of the both of them is deafening to the point where you can't make out what the fuck is going on.
00:15:53.000 Right, and I think that's why it's important to look at both, so you can kind of fucking shimmy it through a filter and see where these sources are coming from. 0.92
00:16:00.000 Looking for gold! 0.96
00:16:01.000 Looking for gold, man. 1.00
00:16:02.000 Looking for the fucking truth, because who knows what the fuck it is? 1.00
00:16:05.000 It doesn't exist for people, right? 1.00
00:16:08.000 It's like reality.
00:16:09.000 I mean, it's been a conversation of like, reality doesn't matter, right?
00:16:12.000 It's all about perception.
00:16:13.000 That is more true than ever today, right?
00:16:16.000 Because people believe.
00:16:18.000 People believe in their right or left-wing thing.
00:16:22.000 They believe in God.
00:16:23.000 Right.
00:16:24.000 It's not just a fact to them.
00:16:27.000 It's not just opinion.
00:16:28.000 It is ingrained belief.
00:16:30.000 Yeah.
00:16:30.000 And it's just me trying not to close the door on anyone so that I can always try and have someone's ear.
00:16:36.000 Right.
00:16:37.000 So people can think that.
00:16:38.000 What do you mean by that?
00:16:39.000 So depending on the video.
00:16:41.000 Right.
00:16:41.000 So yesterday I talked about.
00:16:44.000 You mean you personally?
00:16:44.000 Is that what you're saying?
00:16:45.000 Yes.
00:16:45.000 Yes.
00:16:46.000 So yesterday I talked about the police officer or the off-duty cop in Anaheim.
00:16:50.000 Oh, I saw that.
00:16:50.000 That was crazy.
00:16:51.000 It's crazy.
00:16:52.000 And my whole thing was...
00:16:53.000 Explain it for people who don't know what we're talking about.
00:16:55.000 Okay.
00:16:55.000 So, it's...
00:16:56.000 There's some stuff that we don't see.
00:16:58.000 There's two arguments.
00:16:59.000 There's one that...
00:17:01.000 The off-duty cop...
00:17:02.000 We'll go through his story first.
00:17:03.000 He said that these kids were walking on his property, walking through his property.
00:17:08.000 Maybe they were cutting through...
00:17:10.000 He said something to the girl. 1.00
00:17:12.000 The boy says that you called her a cunt and I said that's not appropriate. 0.99
00:17:16.000 And he says that the child didn't say that. 1.00
00:17:20.000 He said that he was going to shoot the off-duty cop. 1.00
00:17:23.000 He said, I'm going to shoot you. 1.00
00:17:24.000 The boy says, no, I said I'm going to sue you. 0.98
00:17:27.000 But the cop says he's going to detain the kid until the police arrive because you threatened an off-duty police officer.
00:17:32.000 That then turns into this kid.
00:17:36.000 He pushes the police officer.
00:17:38.000 Another kid.
00:17:38.000 A different kid.
00:17:39.000 So that happens at first.
00:17:41.000 The kid that's being detained pushes the off-duty cop into a bush.
00:17:46.000 Then two minutes pass.
00:17:47.000 They slowly get closer to this hedge.
00:17:50.000 Another kid puts hands on the off-duty cop.
00:17:53.000 Another kid then shoulder-checks the cop over the hedge.
00:17:57.000 Then the kid who originally touched him.
00:18:00.000 God, it would be so much easier to have the video.
00:18:02.000 Then one of the other kids who had put hands on him punched the cop.
00:18:05.000 Another kid jumped over the hedge and they kind of surrounded him.
00:18:08.000 And at that point, the cop pulled out a gun and everyone kind of ran away.
00:18:14.000 And then it looks like the cop's trying to pull the kid over the hedge while holding the gun.
00:18:18.000 It goes off and then two kids are arrested.
00:18:21.000 He's not.
00:18:22.000 And it's a crazy video.
00:18:24.000 And so, with talking about a story like that, that becomes a little different than just talking about politics, because it's seeing something, not knowing fully how it started, so you're having to take the word of two people without having the evidence, and trying to get across the point.
00:18:39.000 My main points in the video, I don't like that the cop Didn't seem to de-escalate the situation, didn't continually announce that he was a police officer, didn't announce that he was- Did he announce it at all?
00:18:50.000 So there's this point in the video where a kid, I believe, says, I don't believe you're a cop, or how do I know you're a cop, or something like that.
00:18:57.000 There's two different videos.
00:18:59.000 So it seems like maybe he announced it, but if I was him, right, this is hindsight, of course, I'd be constantly announcing that I am an off-duty police officer and I'm detaining this kid until the police show up, rather than potentially just some stranger grabbing a child.
00:19:13.000 And also, I don't agree, or if I was in his position and all of a sudden I started being attacked, I would 100% have pulled the gun out, but I wouldn't have fired it because they were already running away.
00:19:24.000 Yeah, but they're only attacking him because of the way he was handling the situation.
00:19:28.000 Totally.
00:19:28.000 And so that's a hard thing.
00:19:30.000 I have my personal opinion in these segmented areas.
00:19:32.000 I think he could have done way more to de-escalate the situation.
00:19:35.000 I think that when he pulled out the gun, he had a choice to...
00:19:39.000 Either like fix his hands so that he didn't accidentally shoot a gun around children.
00:19:45.000 Why does he have a round chambered?
00:19:48.000 Right.
00:19:48.000 Why is the safety not on?
00:19:49.000 And those are important questions, right?
00:19:51.000 So you have to, especially someone that has a concealed weapon, someone that's an off-duty cop, you have to hold them to a higher standard.
00:19:57.000 My argument there, though, is if I was in that same position, I would have 100% as I was being attacked, especially if I have a weapon on me that all of a sudden I'm going to get worried that maybe it could be used against me as these kids are already attacking me, I would pull it out.
00:20:09.000 But then he takes it to a different level.
00:20:11.000 Well, even the way he pulled it out, he pulled it out slow and sloppy.
00:20:14.000 Right. 0.97
00:20:14.000 Like, if I saw someone reaching under their shirt like that for a gun, if I was a crazy person, I would totally attack them. 0.97
00:20:21.000 Tackle them. 1.00
00:20:22.000 A hundred percent.
00:20:23.000 If they don't get a hold of that gun, then they're not armed.
00:20:27.000 As soon as they get a hold of that gun, they're armed.
00:20:29.000 Right. 0.99
00:20:29.000 I mean, if he's doing all this jazz and reaching in and it's taking so much time, that's all the time you can punch him in the face. 0.99
00:20:36.000 Like, he's not gonna stop you from punching in the face if he's reaching in, grabbing his gun slow and sloppy. 0.87
00:20:42.000 It took a long time.
00:20:44.000 Because he was doing it with one hand, lifting up his shirt and trying to get the gun.
00:20:48.000 I think he was posturing in a lot of ways, too, like letting the, oh yeah?
00:20:51.000 Oh yeah?
00:20:51.000 Look at this.
00:20:52.000 Look at this.
00:20:53.000 There's the gun.
00:20:54.000 Now what?
00:20:55.000 Yeah, but the press conference afterwards, it feels very much like they're getting their ducks in a row before they really come down on him.
00:21:02.000 Of course, but a cop is just a person. 0.99
00:21:05.000 And there's gonna be great cops, and there's gonna be morons. 0.99
00:21:08.000 And there's going to be people that just didn't realize the situation was going to get to where it got to. 0.99
00:21:13.000 And they just didn't handle all the steps along the way.
00:21:17.000 And that's probably what happened with him. 1.00
00:21:18.000 He probably thought he was going to say, hey, stop coming through my lawn and making noise, you little fucks. 1.00
00:21:23.000 And the kid's like, fuck you, I'll shoot you. 1.00
00:21:25.000 And he's like, oh, really? 1.00
00:21:26.000 Motherfucker, I'm a cop. 1.00
00:21:27.000 We don't even believe you. 1.00
00:21:28.000 You don't believe me? 1.00
00:21:29.000 God damn it. 1.00
00:21:30.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:21:31.000 This is my fucking... 0.99
00:21:32.000 But so, like, talking about that story, it's trying to take in both sides of the argument, and then me separately giving my opinion. 0.99
00:21:37.000 And I did an event last night, and a kid said, you know, what do you say to people that disagree with you there, especially from, like, the Latino community, right?
00:21:46.000 Where, like, how a cop is going to treat me...
00:21:49.000 It's going to be different than how they treat us.
00:21:51.000 And I said, I think it's 100% fine for you to have a disagreement.
00:21:53.000 Tell me.
00:21:54.000 Talk to me. 1.00
00:21:56.000 Don't look at my opinion and go, this dude's a fucking asshole. 1.00
00:21:59.000 I hate this fucking guy. 1.00
00:22:00.000 Michael Che talks about in his special where he went through a weird thing, too. 1.00
00:22:04.000 Try and educate me.
00:22:05.000 Give me your point of view.
00:22:06.000 And that's why it's okay for people to go, like, he tried to give both sides.
00:22:11.000 He gave his opinion.
00:22:13.000 Who is he, though?
00:22:14.000 Who are you saying?
00:22:15.000 Just people.
00:22:16.000 People that watch my show.
00:22:18.000 Because I have far left, far right people that watch.
00:22:21.000 They don't always agree, but they know that I'm always going into it with the best of intentions and I'm not going to hide facts and I'm not going to hide my opinion.
00:22:28.000 And I think that's important.
00:22:30.000 Yeah, well, when you're seeing a video like that, you're not seeing what had to transpire before it got to the point where he's holding on to that kid.
00:22:36.000 Right. 0.99
00:22:37.000 So, who knows who was a dick. 0.99
00:22:39.000 He didn't handle it well. 1.00
00:22:41.000 And you don't expect the kids to handle them well, because they're fucking kids. 0.99
00:22:45.000 No kid handles anything well. 0.99
00:22:47.000 Name me a ten-year-old kid who deals with things well.
00:22:50.000 You know?
00:22:52.000 They're trying things out.
00:22:54.000 They're experimenting.
00:22:55.000 They really don't know how to communicate properly yet. 1.00
00:22:57.000 I think the number one thing people in their 20s say is, oh, I was such a stupid kid. 1.00
00:23:00.000 And then you go to the 30s, and I was, oh, when I was 20, I was such a fucking idiot. 1.00
00:23:03.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:23:03.000 And it just keeps going. 1.00
00:23:05.000 You hope that you're growing.
00:23:06.000 Yeah, when you're 90, you're like, when I was 80, I was retarded. 0.65
00:23:10.000 It's like, Grandpa, no.
00:23:11.000 I'm telling you.
00:23:12.000 Didn't you see that Salon.com article?
00:23:14.000 You can't say that.
00:23:15.000 You can definitely still say it.
00:23:16.000 I remember we talked about that last time. 1.00
00:23:18.000 Fuck off. 1.00
00:23:18.000 I didn't try and take back that word. 1.00
00:23:21.000 I just want to be able to say kill yourself. 0.99
00:23:24.000 You can definitely say that. 1.00
00:23:25.000 Yeah.
00:23:26.000 You can say everything.
00:23:27.000 People say, but what about mental health?
00:23:28.000 And I'm like, I'm not talking about it in that avenue. 1.00
00:23:30.000 I'm just saying that guy that cut me off, he should kill himself. 1.00
00:23:33.000 Dick Cheney should kill himself. 1.00
00:23:34.000 Oh. 1.00
00:23:35.000 Said it.
00:23:35.000 There you go.
00:23:37.000 That's the only clip they're going to use from this entire podcast.
00:23:39.000 You think so? 1.00
00:23:40.000 Dick Cheney should kill himself. 1.00
00:23:41.000 Son of a bitch! 1.00
00:23:41.000 There's a few people that are just like, man, come on. 1.00
00:23:43.000 What have you done?
00:23:45.000 What have you done? 0.99
00:23:47.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99
00:23:47.000 Come on, there's some monsters out there, for sure. 0.99
00:23:49.000 Jump off bridges.
00:23:51.000 Wait, what?
00:23:51.000 Oh, that should jump off bridges.
00:23:53.000 Yeah.
00:23:53.000 Don't you think?
00:23:54.000 Yeah.
00:23:54.000 There's too many people, for sure.
00:23:56.000 Child molesters?
00:23:57.000 Oh, yeah.
00:23:58.000 Jump off the bridge?
00:23:58.000 There's a lot of priests out there that could definitely run into traffic.
00:24:02.000 Don't do that, because you'll fuck up somebody's car. 0.99
00:24:04.000 Oh, my God. 0.99
00:24:05.000 Jump off the bridge.
00:24:06.000 Not the worst thing to say.
00:24:08.000 This game didn't go so well. 0.99
00:24:10.000 Just pull the plug on the console and let's re-plug this bitch in and see what happens in the next life. 1.00
00:24:16.000 You tried. 1.00
00:24:17.000 Bad game.
00:24:17.000 Flip the board.
00:24:18.000 It's over.
00:24:19.000 The game's over.
00:24:20.000 Knock the chess pieces down.
00:24:22.000 Just walk away.
00:24:23.000 It's over.
00:24:25.000 There's definitely, you know, too many taboo words today.
00:24:28.000 That's for sure.
00:24:29.000 I've been talking about this in my act quite a bit lately because it's just...
00:24:32.000 Words are supposed to convey intent.
00:24:34.000 They're not supposed to be magic, taboo words.
00:24:38.000 And half of it is not even about...
00:24:41.000 Trying to get people to be more considerate or more kind.
00:24:44.000 It's about calling people out on doing something wrong and stopping them.
00:24:49.000 Do you think the intent matters more than the word?
00:24:52.000 100%.
00:24:52.000 Because I feel like we saw that a lot with...
00:24:55.000 There's two big YouTubers that were in the news.
00:24:58.000 Or one was in the news.
00:24:59.000 There was PewDiePie.
00:25:00.000 Yeah, let's talk about that because I saw his response video and I kind of got sickened.
00:25:07.000 Oh, really?
00:25:07.000 By what's happening to him.
00:25:09.000 Oh, by what's happening?
00:25:10.000 I thought you were saying his words.
00:25:11.000 It was crazy.
00:25:13.000 It was crazy.
00:25:14.000 The whole thing is insane.
00:25:15.000 They're making it out like he's a Nazi, and he's not at all.
00:25:19.000 He had made some videos where he had told people to not be Nazis.
00:25:27.000 What was his exact words?
00:25:32.000 I don't want to misrepresent them.
00:25:34.000 It originally started with this whole Fiverr video that he did.
00:25:39.000 Fiverr?
00:25:39.000 Yeah, so it's like a website where you can get people to do things originally for $5, now for more money.
00:25:46.000 And so he went through the site.
00:25:47.000 It all started from this one video that got him attention.
00:25:50.000 He went to Fiverr and tried to get people to do ridiculous, outrageous things.
00:25:53.000 Okay. 0.73
00:25:54.000 Got a guy dressed as Jesus to say something weird.
00:25:57.000 The main thing that blew up were these two guys.
00:26:01.000 They're in a jungle setting of some sort.
00:26:04.000 They dance, they laugh, they'll hold up a sign, they'll say something.
00:26:07.000 And so he was like, it's going to be hilarious because they're not going to do it.
00:26:11.000 They're going to be like, thank you, but no.
00:26:13.000 But they actually made a video where the guys were laughing and dancing, held up a sign that said... 0.96
00:26:18.000 Death to all Jews and then said to subscribe to a YouTube channel. 0.99
00:26:22.000 Right? 1.00
00:26:23.000 The whole of like someone else, not his. 1.00
00:26:25.000 So he asked them to say death to all Jews? 0.96
00:26:27.000 So he wrote in as like a... 1.00
00:26:29.000 Because in the same video, he gets all these people that are like, I'm not going to do the stupid, ridiculous thing that you said. 0.99
00:26:35.000 But then they actually did it. 0.98
00:26:37.000 The big reason I feel like they did it is they didn't understand what the words they were writing and the words they were saying.
00:26:42.000 Oh, they're from another country? 0.99
00:26:43.000 Yeah.
00:26:43.000 What country were they from?
00:26:44.000 I don't know.
00:26:45.000 I'd have to double check.
00:26:46.000 Okay, so they just essentially wrote down the symbols.
00:26:49.000 They didn't really know how to even say the word.
00:26:51.000 There it is.
00:26:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:26:53.000 And they're laughing.
00:26:54.000 Yeah, and so I think this might be from his explanation video, but in the first one, he's like... 0.99
00:26:58.000 Why the fuck did they do it? 0.71
00:27:00.000 Can I even include this? 0.98
00:27:02.000 And so then, that got a little traction.
00:27:06.000 And then people started going through his other videos, and they were like, he's dressed up, he's watching Hitler in this one. 0.67
00:27:12.000 Taken completely out of context of him saying that the YouTube Heroes program, which was a program where people can highlight videos, or not highlight them, but mark them down for deletion, because they're offensive, right?
00:27:24.000 And so people were like, oh, that's censorship, that's, you're talking about like, Obviously, hyperbole.
00:27:29.000 It's like, those are Nazis.
00:27:31.000 So he made that joke and that relation.
00:27:33.000 And then there was one, I want to say if it was on The Verge or Wired, but then they go even further and they're like, he used Leslie Jones' picture.
00:27:42.000 On Harambe, taken completely out of context because he was using, there's this Microsoft AI bot, like this chat bot, and you'd say, let me see Harambe as Jesus.
00:27:52.000 And either the AI was messed up or people had manipulated it, where it was putting Leslie Jones's face on it, and he was horrified by it.
00:28:00.000 And that was the whole joke, but they were saying that he was doing it.
00:28:03.000 So this is clear, like you saw him use the software, you saw the error?
00:28:07.000 If you try and use the bot today, a picture won't come up, because now they are aware that that's what was happening.
00:28:12.000 And so they took all these things and it was this crusade of, look guys, we're looking at this bad guy.
00:28:17.000 He's the biggest guy on YouTube.
00:28:18.000 He's the bad guy.
00:28:19.000 We're going to take him down.
00:28:20.000 So much taken out of context.
00:28:22.000 Some things are not defensible where I can't say it in the sense of, like you say that words don't have power based on intent, and I think there's a lot of truth in that.
00:28:32.000 I'm not saying words don't have power based on intent.
00:28:34.000 I'm saying that words should just convey intent.
00:28:38.000 Right.
00:28:38.000 And there are times where a word...
00:28:40.000 There's times where you see a friend, you go, what's up, bitch? 1.00
00:28:44.000 And you're both laughing and you're being silly. 1.00
00:28:48.000 And then there's times where you call someone a bitch because you think they're being mean. 0.99
00:28:53.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:28:53.000 I mean, those two words are exactly the same, but one conveys a completely different intent. 0.97
00:28:57.000 Right.
00:28:58.000 But out of this, it was very obvious that they were trying to do this takedown thing, and it blew up entirely in their face.
00:29:04.000 I think I saw over...
00:29:05.000 But has it?
00:29:06.000 Because I don't think most people are aware.
00:29:08.000 I mean, there was a Wall Street Journal article on it, right?
00:29:10.000 Which was where it got really weird, because three people worked on this, and they combed through...
00:29:15.000 Hundreds of hours.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, I mean...
00:29:16.000 And they found, like, instances of him holding his arm out, like this, and they used that picture.
00:29:22.000 Like, there's a...
00:29:24.000 I mean, that's weird.
00:29:26.000 It's very weird.
00:29:27.000 And then once all of it came out that they were like, well, here's the thing about the context, he's just like Donald Trump.
00:29:35.000 And it was an immediate jump to he's using the same tactics as Donald Trump, but it was just insane.
00:29:41.000 No, he's very reasonable.
00:29:43.000 He did a video, a response video about it, and the way he handled it was very reasonable.
00:29:47.000 Yeah.
00:29:47.000 And he explained what he was doing, what's going on.
00:29:50.000 And, you know, he's doing hundreds of hours of him playing video games and talking and being silly. 0.70
00:29:56.000 And if you comb through those and take these things, again, out of context and try to make it look like he's a Nazi, that's a hit piece. 0.79
00:30:04.000 100%.
00:30:05.000 And it's deceptive.
00:30:06.000 It's not indicative of his overall, it's hard to call it a body of work, but let's call it a body of work.
00:30:12.000 His overall body of performance that's online, whatever you want to call it.
00:30:16.000 His talking.
00:30:17.000 It's not who he is.
00:30:19.000 So for them to call him a Nazi and say that PewDiePie has seven videos where he's done something about Nazis, like... 0.81
00:30:27.000 People, when they're doing these long-form spitball improvisation videos like that and you're interacting with people, you're gonna say all kinds of shit that in the moment is legitimate. 0.97
00:30:39.000 But if you chop it up and edit it and splice them all together and then make a five-minute montage of him saying Nazi, like he's obsessed with Nazis!
00:30:47.000 And what kind of sucked from it was a lot of people think that, oh, there are articles about the downfall of PewDiePie.
00:30:54.000 I think he's gone up half a million, if not more than a million subscribers since all of this happened, right?
00:30:59.000 So he's gotten all this new support.
00:31:01.000 He's a temporary face for free speech and persecution from mainstream media.
00:31:06.000 Didn't he lose some gigs?
00:31:08.000 That doesn't matter for him, though.
00:31:09.000 So, I mean, it sucks more for the people that were working on that project.
00:31:11.000 What was the project?
00:31:12.000 So it was Scare PewDiePie season two.
00:31:15.000 It was a YouTube Red series.
00:31:16.000 So I think they were about to go into production.
00:31:19.000 And so then that got canceled.
00:31:21.000 So YouTube didn't want to fund that.
00:31:23.000 And I said it.
00:31:24.000 He said it.
00:31:25.000 He understands why they would have to separate.
00:31:27.000 Because then it becomes a story of YouTube and Disney support an anti-Semite. 0.60
00:31:32.000 But obviously he's not an anti-Semite.
00:31:34.000 So why would they back away?
00:31:36.000 I think because they were scared that the Wall Street Journal was like, did you see all of this?
00:31:40.000 We're gonna write this article.
00:31:41.000 How did the Wall Street Journal let that slip through?
00:31:43.000 That seems to me very irresponsible.
00:31:46.000 Many of them are standing by it, though.
00:31:48.000 Really?
00:31:48.000 Yes, 100%.
00:31:49.000 And many are touting it as this victory because he lost Google-preferred ads on YouTube, which I will say I don't know how he was still seen as family-friendly, because I'm not family-friendly on my show.
00:32:00.000 His past two years at the very least, not family friendly.
00:32:03.000 And then dropped by Maker.
00:32:06.000 He doesn't need his MCN, his company around him.
00:32:10.000 And the YouTube Red series is nothing.
00:32:11.000 He's still going to make millions of dollars.
00:32:13.000 He's grown.
00:32:14.000 It's a good thing.
00:32:15.000 I feel like now, if you have mainstream media trying to take a swing at you, It's some of the best promotion in the world.
00:32:21.000 Okay, but why did they take a swing at him?
00:32:22.000 And why is anyone saying that they took down a bad guy?
00:32:26.000 I think that it's a big thing of them trying to label...
00:32:29.000 And once again, it's the problem with a lot of media is they're overextending, right?
00:32:34.000 They all of a sudden start talking about this narrative about...
00:32:36.000 Alt-right and the rise of white supremacy again in this country.
00:32:40.000 And then they look at this big guy and they're like, we can use him as an example.
00:32:44.000 We can be the heroes that expose this, that do the takedown piece.
00:32:48.000 And they're so driven for that that they then just go, oh, well, maybe that doesn't add up there.
00:32:55.000 It's an argument, but we have the power.
00:32:57.000 We have the size of the audience.
00:32:58.000 We're good.
00:32:58.000 And it just blew up in their face.
00:33:00.000 So they were thinking they could get away with it even though it wasn't kosher? 0.96
00:33:04.000 I believe so.
00:33:05.000 What is their response so far?
00:33:07.000 Do you know?
00:33:08.000 Have you read anything about it?
00:33:10.000 As far as, like, fans?
00:33:12.000 No, Wall Street Journal.
00:33:14.000 Are they digging their heels in?
00:33:16.000 Yeah, and then a lot of people started trying to find, as always, dirt on the authors in the past.
00:33:22.000 One was like a joke from 2015. And while part of me would go, well, that's petty.
00:33:27.000 If the argument is that context doesn't matter, then fine.
00:33:31.000 Then look at these guys, what they said a year ago.
00:33:33.000 Look at what they're saying now.
00:33:35.000 The writers of the article.
00:33:41.000 I never knew Jews were so good at frying joke from way back. 1.00
00:33:45.000 And then he made another joke about... 1.00
00:33:47.000 It was like a back and forth with someone where he said, you know, these racial jokes are so stupid. 1.00
00:33:52.000 And then someone said, you know, they hit everyone. 1.00
00:33:55.000 And he said, well, at least the black jokes are funny. 1.00
00:33:57.000 Those ones aren't funny. 1.00
00:33:59.000 And so people were like, well, if context doesn't matter, are you a scumbag? 0.98
00:34:03.000 And then people just dismissed it as... 0.99
00:34:06.000 A lot of mainstream people dismissed it as like, oh, that's not the same thing.
00:34:10.000 How could anyone say context doesn't matter?
00:34:12.000 That's insane!
00:34:12.000 That's insane!
00:34:13.000 That is an insane thing to say.
00:34:14.000 Is that literally what they said?
00:34:16.000 That context does not matter?
00:34:17.000 What was it?
00:34:18.000 It was one of the people...
00:34:19.000 The problem is so many people have written about it. 0.98
00:34:22.000 There was one article that was promoted and it said all these articles or all these people defending Felix with but context, that's a bullshit argument. 0.99
00:34:31.000 And that's insane. 0.99
00:34:33.000 That is absolutely insane.
00:34:34.000 So everything exists in a highly edited bubble?
00:34:37.000 Dope.
00:34:38.000 So let's ruin everyone's career.
00:34:39.000 If you're talking about a mathematician discussing algorithms, yes, context doesn't really mean that much because he's talking about numbers.
00:34:45.000 But we're not talking about numbers.
00:34:47.000 We're talking about words.
00:34:48.000 We're talking about the way people express themselves.
00:34:50.000 And we're talking about someone who is generally considered to be humorous.
00:34:54.000 I mean, PewDiePie, a lot of his stuff is playful and humorous.
00:34:57.000 So if you're humorous and you're playing around and you say something that might be...
00:35:02.000 I don't even want to use the appropriate.
00:35:04.000 It might be the thing for him to say in that moment to try to be entertaining.
00:35:09.000 That does not mean he's a Nazi.
00:35:11.000 And to label him like that is incredibly irresponsible. 0.99
00:35:16.000 I mean, I'm not a lawyer, but I would sue the fuck out of him. 0.99
00:35:21.000 If I was him, I would sue the fuck out of them, for sure. 0.99
00:35:26.000 Because what they're doing is misrepresenting who he is as a human being. 0.98
00:35:30.000 And even if it's beneficial in the long run, it's super dangerous to set that precedent.
00:35:35.000 Well, especially something in this climate, where you say this is what he supports, and it 100% isn't.
00:35:40.000 How do you know someone doesn't just see those articles, doesn't see his defense, and tries to kill the guy?
00:35:45.000 But why would the Wall Street Journal do something like this?
00:35:48.000 Now, this is where the conspiratorially minded start thinking.
00:35:52.000 This Pootie Pie kid is this YouTube sensation, much like this Philip DeFranco guy.
00:35:58.000 Oh, I mean, I have 5 million subscribers.
00:36:00.000 This guy has like 53 million.
00:36:01.000 Whatever, that's still a lot.
00:36:03.000 It's a lot.
00:36:04.000 But do you feel, and you have a legitimate viewpoint on this, do you feel like there is some sort of resentment or anger or...
00:36:18.000 So people that are working against the folks that have become these new media stars, because, I mean, you essentially mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but you kind of run your own thing, right?
00:36:29.000 For the most part.
00:36:30.000 I am part of a company.
00:36:31.000 Now, right?
00:36:32.000 Now, yeah.
00:36:32.000 That was a financial decision that you made along the way once you became successful doing it on your own.
00:36:36.000 In a year, I'll be back on my own, and we're going to get...
00:36:39.000 Oh, threats.
00:36:39.000 No, this is where I start the negotiations.
00:36:43.000 No, in a year, because I want to start my own larger news organization of people that are from the left and from the right can debate, like one of my favorites.
00:36:51.000 Can I play a character? 0.99
00:36:52.000 I want to wear a fake nose and a mustache to just talk shit and make things up. 1.00
00:36:56.000 And lie. 1.00
00:36:57.000 I want to lie. 0.81
00:36:57.000 I want to be like a lying news guy. 0.81
00:36:59.000 Oh, okay.
00:36:59.000 At first I thought you were talking about Gavin, but then you said the lie thing.
00:37:03.000 Oh, no.
00:37:04.000 Gavin McInnes?
00:37:06.000 He's a character, man. 1.00
00:37:07.000 He's a funny motherfucker. 0.98
00:37:08.000 Because I originally knew him as a comedian, and then I found all the news stuff. 0.99
00:37:14.000 Or maybe it's not that new, but all his political stuff.
00:37:17.000 I was like, oh, I like listening to this guy.
00:37:18.000 No, it's not very new at all.
00:37:20.000 He was great the other day.
00:37:21.000 Was it yesterday?
00:37:24.000 How many days ago was that?
00:37:25.000 Yesterday was Dominic Cruz.
00:37:26.000 Two days ago.
00:37:26.000 I do too many podcasts.
00:37:27.000 I know. 0.98
00:37:28.000 I was like, who the fuck has he had on this week? 0.99
00:37:30.000 My head hurts. 0.99
00:37:31.000 Yeah.
00:37:31.000 Neil Tyson, Dominic Cruz.
00:37:33.000 My name should not be on any list with Neil deGrasse Tyson. 0.98
00:37:36.000 I fucking love that. 0.99
00:37:37.000 How the fuck is mine on there? 0.99
00:37:39.000 Doesn't make any sense either. 0.97
00:37:41.000 He was awesome.
00:37:42.000 That was the Neil deGrasse Tyson show.
00:37:43.000 I was basically like, I threw a couple questions at him and he just went on these epic mind-bending rants explaining things. 1.00
00:37:49.000 Let me fuck with your brain. 1.00
00:37:50.000 Oh, he turned it inside out and then just fucking hosed it down with bleach. 1.00
00:37:54.000 My brain will never be the same again. 0.99
00:37:56.000 It was awesome.
00:37:57.000 Scott, he's so interesting.
00:37:59.000 He's one of the most fascinating people I've ever talked to.
00:38:02.000 Because of his passion for things, like the way he describes space and astrophysics, it's not just that he's so knowledgeable, it's the intense passion in which he delivers that information that's so infectious.
00:38:14.000 Well, that's what separates people, is the passion relating everything to art, right?
00:38:18.000 That way, at least it's relatable to everyone.
00:38:20.000 Well, it really is, and there's an art form to the way he does it.
00:38:24.000 I mean, there's so many people, I mean, I'm sure you probably experienced at some point in your life a boring science teacher, right?
00:38:31.000 We all have.
00:38:32.000 Where you're just like, oh my god, this guy's so boring.
00:38:34.000 I would have never thought that as an adult I would be fascinated by science.
00:38:38.000 Right.
00:38:38.000 I would be constantly looking at science blogs and reading all these scientific papers and paying attention to every single news released by NASA of new exoplanets that they've discovered.
00:38:49.000 Yeah.
00:38:49.000 The passion makes a difference.
00:38:51.000 In school, I was way better at math, but I was fascinated with storytelling because I had a really passionate English teacher.
00:38:59.000 And I sucked at it initially, but really got me into storytelling and the journey and the beauty of a story.
00:39:07.000 And I feel like we need more people like that.
00:39:10.000 More people that care rather than just chasing the dollar.
00:39:13.000 Which, hey, no disrespect for making money.
00:39:15.000 I do feel like some people villainize that.
00:39:18.000 But...
00:39:19.000 You have to have the passion.
00:39:20.000 Well, for sure, but the role of the schoolteacher is such an underappreciated and undervalued and Also, it's not just undervalued, underappreciated, but when done incorrectly, it's so fucking potentially damaging.
00:39:37.000 I mean, you could really screw a kid's head up.
00:39:40.000 I mean, I don't know. 1.00
00:39:41.000 Did any teacher ever say mean shit to you when you were a kid? 0.99
00:39:43.000 That, like, stung you and, like, stayed with you for years and years afterwards? 1.00
00:39:49.000 Oh, shoot.
00:39:50.000 Well, I had some rough...
00:39:52.000 Some rough Catholic school teachers.
00:39:55.000 But that was early days.
00:39:56.000 That was elementary.
00:39:57.000 That was stuff that maybe pushed me more away from the religion.
00:40:01.000 I think later on it was probably my Spanish teacher who was just so disappointed any time I got anything wrong that it just made me scared and made me...
00:40:10.000 I didn't have any enthusiasm to all of a sudden learn a new language. 0.99
00:40:13.000 And so now I'm one of these dumb fucks that only knows one language. 1.00
00:40:16.000 Me too. 1.00
00:40:17.000 Was it a man or a woman?
00:40:18.000 Woman.
00:40:19.000 Did she yell at you?
00:40:20.000 Yes. 1.00
00:40:20.000 Maybe she just wanted to fuck. 1.00
00:40:22.000 Maybe she's trying to break you down, bro. 1.00
00:40:24.000 You know.
00:40:24.000 Maybe she's trying to just get you vulnerable the next thing you know.
00:40:27.000 Come over to my house.
00:40:28.000 I'm going to teach you Spanish.
00:40:30.000 I'm into children that are 170 pounds and 5 foot tall.
00:40:34.000 You need to roll your tongue.
00:40:36.000 Oh, I still can't do that.
00:40:37.000 I'm like... 1.00
00:40:40.000 No, I got a dumb fat tongue. 1.00
00:40:41.000 It doesn't work. 1.00
00:40:42.000 Really?
00:40:42.000 You can't do it?
00:40:43.000 I sound like a fucking car trying to start up. 1.00
00:40:46.000 Goddamn white people. 1.00
00:40:46.000 I know. 1.00
00:40:48.000 We're ruining everything.
00:40:49.000 We are ruining everything.
00:40:50.000 Wait, to jump back to what you were saying about mainstream, do they have any resentment?
00:40:55.000 Let's go back to that PewDiePie guy.
00:40:56.000 Some places.
00:40:58.000 I get scared when everyone talks about stuff in generalities, right?
00:41:02.000 When I talk about, and I'm guilty of it too, when I talk about like All mainstream media.
00:41:05.000 It's not everyone, you know?
00:41:07.000 Right.
00:41:07.000 But there are.
00:41:09.000 I stopped doing interviews with mainstream outlets several years ago because they made everything about, like, I would talk about all the really cool ventures that we're going into, how our space is changing things up, and it would always be turned into one comment that maybe was somewhat critical of,
00:41:26.000 let's say, like, a studio.
00:41:28.000 Right.
00:41:28.000 And it would all become about that, or it would all become about, like, the money.
00:41:31.000 Right. 0.99
00:41:31.000 And I was like, you're just fucking manipulating what I'm saying. 0.99
00:41:34.000 I don't want to deal with this. 0.99
00:41:36.000 Yeah.
00:41:36.000 And so the point has become, when the Wall Street Journal knocks on Felix's door after they didn't apparently approach him for the original story, and they're like, hey, we want to give you a platform to tell your story.
00:41:47.000 It's like, fuck you! 0.99
00:41:48.000 Is that what they're doing now? 1.00
00:41:49.000 Yeah, after the story broke and there were all these people that came to his defense.
00:41:52.000 They came to him.
00:41:54.000 I think that's what a journalist should do, right? 0.99
00:41:57.000 Talk to the fucking main source, but not after the fact. 0.96
00:42:01.000 Well, so I think from what Felix wrote, it was the Wall Street Journal. 0.99
00:42:05.000 They left their cards, and that's how he knew it was 100% them.
00:42:09.000 But why?
00:42:09.000 But that's not what I mean.
00:42:10.000 What I mean is different journalists from the Wall Street Journal, not the same ones who wrote the hit piece.
00:42:14.000 I don't know if it was the same ones.
00:42:15.000 I highly doubt that they would go, hey, we're super sorry.
00:42:18.000 We called you a Nazi in front of millions of people, and we were totally lying.
00:42:21.000 Yeah, but the argument all of a sudden is, why should he do an interview with the Wall Street Journal?
00:42:26.000 Maybe because they have a different audience, but he has his own larger platform where he controls the narrative.
00:42:32.000 He's not going to be selectively edited.
00:42:33.000 Right, but he's not speaking to the people that the Wall Street Journal disparaged him in front of. 0.77
00:42:37.000 But I would assume that they're also covering their ass by going to him and reaching out and giving him a platform.
00:42:42.000 They can say, well, we gave him a chance to respond, and the facts remain. 0.93
00:42:47.000 He did say those things, and they are valid. 0.70
00:42:50.000 I think if he was confident enough, he should probably do what I've seen Milo Yiannopoulos do in the past, where he had someone film at the same time.
00:42:57.000 So if they did misrepresent him in some manner...
00:42:59.000 But it doesn't matter.
00:43:01.000 It doesn't matter.
00:43:01.000 Because they've already done it.
00:43:03.000 They've already misrepresented him in the article.
00:43:05.000 If he has someone film his response to that article...
00:43:08.000 No, no, no.
00:43:08.000 I mean, just if he did something with them...
00:43:12.000 If they did film something, but film the entire thing just so you can show.
00:43:15.000 But I'm saying it doesn't matter because they've already done the damage.
00:43:18.000 The damaging thing.
00:43:19.000 How many people who read the first thing are even going to read the second thing?
00:43:23.000 It might even be 30%.
00:43:25.000 So you've got 70% people.
00:43:26.000 And how many people just read the Wall Street Journal and maybe a local paper and aren't online and aren't hearing all these responses?
00:43:33.000 And they go, oh, you know, they catch their son.
00:43:35.000 Oh, what are you watching?
00:43:36.000 I'm watching PewDiePie.
00:43:37.000 Oh, you're watching that Nazi? 0.98
00:43:38.000 That guy's a Nazi. 0.68
00:43:39.000 No, he's not, Dad. 1.00
00:43:40.000 You hate everything I like!
00:43:42.000 And now that kid's doing meth for the rest of his life.
00:43:45.000 I don't know about that.
00:43:45.000 No, I think that it is sad, right?
00:43:49.000 That's a huge problem with a lot of the fake news or just news that's false is the crazy, salacious shit. 0.98
00:43:56.000 If you then look at the correction half the time, that gets like 20 times the shares. 0.98
00:44:01.000 You know why? 0.98
00:44:01.000 Because it's fucking insane. 0.98
00:44:02.000 It's like, did you see this? 0.99
00:44:03.000 Did you see this thing?
00:44:05.000 And it's something that I've been critical of People I like in the industry, critical of a lot of the mainstream guys that I don't like.
00:44:12.000 And it sucks because there's not a clear answer.
00:44:15.000 Do you delete the false thing and then it looks like you're hiding that information?
00:44:19.000 Well, you should definitely delete the false thing.
00:44:22.000 That's my argument.
00:44:23.000 But then there's an argument that you leave it up because you show that you were wrong.
00:44:27.000 If it's on Twitter, you quote tweet it.
00:44:29.000 But that still doesn't fix it because as much as we talk about bubbles and separation, that tweet, that promotion of a thing is separate from everything else in the world.
00:44:38.000 Tweets are problematic anyway, because it's 140 characters, and it's very difficult to adequately explain some subjects in 140 characters.
00:44:45.000 But if you put out some information that's not true, like this PewDiePie thing, you absolutely should print a retraction, and you absolutely, if you have it still up on your website, the first thing you should say is, this is all taken out of context, and it's incorrect,
00:45:00.000 and it does not represent who this guy is, and you should absolutely not have those writers do that again.
00:45:06.000 I mean, whether you fire them or whether you...
00:45:09.000 Who knows what they were asked to do?
00:45:12.000 This is another part of the problem.
00:45:13.000 Was this an independent thing that they decided to pursue on their own?
00:45:17.000 Did someone ask them to do it?
00:45:19.000 Was there someone who decided that this guy was a Nazi because maybe they tuned in at the very moment he was doing something?
00:45:25.000 And some people obviously are very, very sensitive to that kind of stuff.
00:45:29.000 I think that's why it's important, especially on an editorial team of some sort, to have people with mixed opinions.
00:45:35.000 Because it's very easy to all of a sudden get railroaded behind an idea of just like, yeah, look at these seven specific things.
00:45:42.000 We're not going to say that it's out of context, but look at this information.
00:45:45.000 We got this guy.
00:45:45.000 We got this guy dead to rights, but it's all flimsy.
00:45:48.000 Well, again, context, right?
00:45:52.000 That is part of the problem with doing something like you do, and it's certainly part of the problem with a podcast, is if you're talking for three hours and you take these little snippets of those three hours out of context, it paints a completely distorted perception of who the person is.
00:46:08.000 Right.
00:46:10.000 That's also a problem with language in general.
00:46:12.000 It really is a problem with, and it's certainly a problem, with words.
00:46:17.000 And that's one of the problems with these, quote, magic words that you're not supposed to say anymore, whatever those words are.
00:46:24.000 You know, you give the weight, give so much weight to these words that just taken alone on their own, they can get you in trouble.
00:46:35.000 Just saying, uttering the phrase as if it was a magic abracadabra can get you in trouble.
00:46:40.000 I think it's important that we stop trying to...
00:46:42.000 Oh God, it rhymes and it's not on purpose.
00:46:44.000 We have to stop just blindly hating and we try and educate, right?
00:46:47.000 I think that...
00:46:48.000 Don't blindly hate.
00:46:50.000 Educate.
00:46:52.000 It's an after-school special starring Philly D. Oh, God.
00:46:55.000 That sounds like straight-up something from the 90s.
00:46:58.000 You're on a skateboard.
00:46:59.000 You pull up.
00:47:00.000 Don't hate.
00:47:01.000 Educate.
00:47:02.000 Yeah.
00:47:03.000 But, I mean, if you want to talk about allies, you want to talk about people meeting you, right?
00:47:07.000 There was...
00:47:08.000 If you turn into the trans issue, right? 0.99
00:47:11.000 For the longest time, I didn't want to ever touch the issue because if I used a wrong pronoun, I was the fucking devil. 0.98
00:47:17.000 I was the devil, and I was like, just... 0.97
00:47:19.000 Educate me at that time.
00:47:20.000 And this is years ago.
00:47:22.000 At that time, I had never met anyone that was trans.
00:47:25.000 It was just a completely new concept to me.
00:47:29.000 And all of a sudden, it was just like I said he when I should have said she.
00:47:34.000 And it was like, I was the worst person in the world and people wanted to like ruin me and like end me.
00:47:40.000 But it's again what we were talking about before.
00:47:42.000 It's not really what they're doing.
00:47:43.000 What they're doing is trying to find a way to control you and call you a bad person and be angry at you. 0.92
00:47:49.000 They could see that it was a mistake or if it wasn't a mistake, you just, look, if someone was a he for 30 fucking years and they became a she for a year and you still call them a he, I don't think you're a monster. 0.97
00:48:03.000 Okay? 0.97
00:48:03.000 I just don't. 0.97
00:48:04.000 We knew Bruce Jenner for his entire life.
00:48:06.000 Even saying Bruce Jenner now, you're not supposed to say it anymore. 0.97
00:48:09.000 When you go and look at the records for the fucking Olympics, it says Caitlyn Jenner now. 0.97
00:48:14.000 Is that true? 0.99
00:48:15.000 Is that real?
00:48:16.000 I'm pretty sure it's true. 0.99
00:48:17.000 He's like, wait one second, let me fucking Google this. 0.98
00:48:20.000 I'm pretty sure it's true. 0.99
00:48:21.000 I won't be wrong.
00:48:22.000 So I think that's what pushed so many people away.
00:48:25.000 And then the way that I try and...
00:48:26.000 Because I try to make it to no one's the villain in my head so that I can see where they're coming from.
00:48:30.000 I go, well, maybe that person, maybe they're not...
00:48:33.000 Because there are definitely professional victims and cry bullies out there. 1.00
00:48:36.000 Maybe there's someone that in their day-to-day life, someone says, you fucking tranny. 0.99
00:48:40.000 Maybe they say all this hateful stuff. 1.00
00:48:42.000 No, but that's not what you're saying.
00:48:43.000 No, I know, but then they take it out on the wrong person, right?
00:48:45.000 I try and see if, like, is this person being attacked so much that then they become this accidental monster, which is what has pushed me more towards the center.
00:48:54.000 Before I came to California, I was an ultra-liberal.
00:48:57.000 I had the most liberal ideas of like, yeah, if I'm a doctor and I'm making $3 million a year, I should give 70%. 0.99
00:49:05.000 Like, fucking crazy. 0.96
00:49:06.000 Yeah, you were thinking that because you weren't a doctor and you weren't making $3 million a year. 1.00
00:49:09.000 Because I had no fucking money. 0.99
00:49:10.000 Poor people always think like that. 0.99
00:49:11.000 Hey, you want to slowly come to the center? 1.00
00:49:13.000 Fucking start a business. 0.99
00:49:14.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:49:17.000 And then being around people every day, that's 100%.
00:49:20.000 Because you see the problems with many of the arguments.
00:49:24.000 I think also part of the reason I was ultra-liberal is there's definitely, as you're growing up, a counterculture thing.
00:49:29.000 I grew up in the South.
00:49:31.000 So it was just like, everyone's wrong and I'm enlightened.
00:49:34.000 What part of the South?
00:49:34.000 North Carolina for a while, Florida for a bit.
00:49:37.000 What part of North Carolina?
00:49:38.000 Asheville.
00:49:39.000 Oh, I love that place.
00:49:40.000 That's so hippie.
00:49:41.000 That's as left as it gets.
00:49:43.000 Yeah.
00:49:43.000 Yeah, but then you go around, you start going out and like...
00:49:47.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:48.000 Just walk straight and you're eventually gonna run to a burning cross. 0.96
00:49:51.000 Yeah, it's like, oh, old people in a hacky sack and then hate. 1.00
00:49:54.000 Right around the corner.
00:49:55.000 It's an awesome city, though.
00:49:57.000 Yeah, it's great.
00:49:57.000 I guess you call it a town.
00:49:59.000 Yeah.
00:49:59.000 It's really too small for a city, but I played Asheville a few years back.
00:50:02.000 Oh, yeah?
00:50:02.000 I gotta get back there.
00:50:03.000 It's amazing there.
00:50:05.000 You can go to the, what is it, the Biltmore House?
00:50:07.000 They got really small chairs.
00:50:08.000 What is that?
00:50:09.000 It's just like this giant, giant...
00:50:11.000 I don't know the history of it, but when I went there, I was just like, oh, so people used to be really short.
00:50:16.000 That's really interesting.
00:50:17.000 They have really tiny chairs, because that's how people were back then?
00:50:20.000 They were just smaller, shorter people.
00:50:21.000 They didn't have any food, man.
00:50:22.000 This is malnourished. 1.00
00:50:24.000 If you go back there and give those fuckers some goddamn American beef. 1.00
00:50:27.000 I forget who I was listening. 1.00
00:50:29.000 I was blown away.
00:50:30.000 I also had the same belief that people just died when they were 30. Yeah, it was Chris Ryan.
00:50:34.000 Yeah.
00:50:34.000 Wasn't it?
00:50:35.000 I think.
00:50:35.000 I was like, oh!
00:50:37.000 Infant mortality fucks up the numbers.
00:50:38.000 Yeah.
00:50:39.000 And that's the thing.
00:50:40.000 Totally makes sense.
00:50:40.000 I think you just gotta make sure people know that No one's infallible.
00:50:44.000 Everyone can be wrong.
00:50:46.000 It's one of those numbers that gets incorrectly used, like the gender wage gap.
00:50:51.000 It's sort of another similar number that gets incorrectly used.
00:50:53.000 People say, like, women make 80 cents to every dollar a man makes. 1.00
00:50:57.000 Not really.
00:50:58.000 They do overall, but it's not the same jobs.
00:51:00.000 It's not like the woman is a doctor and a man's a doctor and the man makes a dollar and the woman makes 80 cents.
00:51:05.000 No, it's like... 1.00
00:51:06.000 The woman is a nurse, and the man is a fucking coal miner. 1.00
00:51:09.000 It's one of those things. 1.00
00:51:11.000 See, that's one thing I'd have to dive deep and educate myself on.
00:51:14.000 Because I'm just like, yes, that sounds legit, but I have to check myself.
00:51:18.000 Well, that's a weird one, too.
00:51:19.000 What is this?
00:51:20.000 U.S. Olympic Committee will update Bruce Jenner's Hall of Fame plaque to say Caitlyn.
00:51:24.000 I saw a headline this morning.
00:51:25.000 Ah! 0.95
00:51:26.000 I saw a headline this morning that said, like, Caitlyn said something that, like, this presidency is ridiculous, and I was like, why do we care? 1.00
00:51:33.000 Caitlyn's a moron. 1.00
00:51:34.000 She's a fucking moron. 1.00
00:51:35.000 Why do we care what celebrities think? 1.00
00:51:37.000 But how about this? 1.00
00:51:38.000 Caitlyn Jenner doesn't believe in fucking gay marriage. 1.00
00:51:41.000 Is she? 1.00
00:51:41.000 Yes. 1.00
00:51:42.000 Still on that?
00:51:42.000 Doesn't believe in gay marriage.
00:51:43.000 Huh.
00:51:44.000 I'm more of a traditionalist.
00:51:46.000 That's what she said.
00:51:47.000 I'm more of a traditionalist.
00:51:49.000 You're definitely not.
00:51:52.000 Okay?
00:51:53.000 I don't know what traditions you're talking about. 0.97
00:51:56.000 But anytime any of these places get any of these celebrities to have an opinion, I'm like, I think the election proved no one fucking cares. 0.99
00:52:05.000 No one cares what these fucking people say. 0.99
00:52:07.000 Especially Caitlyn Jenner. 1.00
00:52:08.000 At the end of the day, you don't get a free pass just because you change your gender.
00:52:12.000 You're still judged based on the quality of your thoughts and how you express yourself. 1.00
00:52:16.000 And if you are a fucking grown adult and you're against gay marriage but you're also transgender, you're crazy. 0.99
00:52:24.000 And I know she's buckled down because of some of the pressure that people put on her, like Ellen, and she kind of softened her stance on it. 1.00
00:52:31.000 But the bottom line is, you're in your fucking 60s, and you don't think that men should be able to get married if they're in love with each other. 0.99
00:52:37.000 You're out of your mind, or women, or anybody. 1.00
00:52:39.000 Just fuck off. 1.00
00:52:41.000 You're stupid. 1.00
00:52:41.000 See, I feel like more and more people... 1.00
00:52:44.000 When I started hearing about this new kind of Republican, I thought it was...
00:52:48.000 And I've seen a lot of people...
00:52:50.000 Well, no.
00:52:51.000 So, a lot of people have then talked about...
00:52:55.000 There's this weird thing where it's like, all of a sudden, you say new kind of Republican, and they go, oh, so you're talking about white supremacists under a whole different banner.
00:53:02.000 Oh, you're talking about Nazis? 0.99
00:53:03.000 Yeah, so what I was talking about were people that, Republicans that don't give a fuck about gay people getting married, and they're like, I'm about... 0.99
00:53:10.000 I'm a Republican because, you know, small government, right? 0.99
00:53:13.000 And jobs, but if gay people get married, that's fine. 0.92
00:53:17.000 If it's a moral issue like that, I find myself more liberal. 0.99
00:53:19.000 And I all of a sudden became kind of excited about all these new people that didn't give a fuck. 0.99
00:53:25.000 And that was interesting to me. 0.99
00:53:26.000 But then you see a lot of other stuff that I don't know how to feel about.
00:53:31.000 A lot of other stuff that you don't know how you feel about.
00:53:33.000 What do you mean?
00:53:36.000 I'm trying to think of how to say it.
00:53:37.000 Don't beat around the bush.
00:53:39.000 No, no, no.
00:53:39.000 I'm trying to think of how to say it.
00:53:40.000 Because there's all these fucking different avenues. 0.99
00:53:42.000 There's some people that they'll maybe consider themselves all right because they just love fucking trolling people. 0.98
00:53:47.000 Like, how do I trigger someone with some crazy outrageous thing? 0.98
00:53:50.000 And it's like, I get it.
00:53:52.000 But then there are people then that...
00:53:55.000 You can take it a whole different avenue where it's like, no, that thing, it is now white supremacy.
00:53:59.000 That Pepe the Frog, it is. 0.99
00:54:00.000 And to the point where fucking Hillary Clinton puts a thing on her website where she's like, this is a white supremacist symbol. 1.00
00:54:06.000 That's insane. 1.00
00:54:06.000 Wait a minute, what is? 1.00
00:54:07.000 The frog?
00:54:08.000 Do you remember Pepe the Frog?
00:54:09.000 Yeah, they were like, it is 100% a white supremacist symbol.
00:54:11.000 She put that on her website?
00:54:13.000 Yes. 0.96
00:54:13.000 Well, that was just because the Donald Trump people were using that frog to troll online. 0.96
00:54:18.000 But you overextend, you look like an idiot. 1.00
00:54:19.000 Okay, but here's part of the problem. 1.00
00:54:21.000 When you're talking about people who troll online, go back to when you were a young liberal and you thought that if I was a doctor and I was making $3 million a year, of course I should be given 70% in taxes.
00:54:31.000 You don't have that, so you're looking at the people who do, and this part of you is like, give it away, man.
00:54:37.000 You don't deserve it.
00:54:39.000 Give it away.
00:54:40.000 That same mentality exists with trolls.
00:54:42.000 They don't have anything going on. 1.00
00:54:44.000 They're fucking losers for the most part. 1.00
00:54:46.000 So what do they want to do? 1.00
00:54:47.000 They want to burn it all down.
00:54:49.000 They want the whole thing burned down. 0.95
00:54:51.000 Go Trump!
00:54:52.000 Go Trump! 1.00
00:54:53.000 Half the reason why they want to say go Trump is because they want this clearly maniacal person to just throw a fucking monkey wrench into the gears and watch the whole system explode. 0.99
00:55:04.000 That's half of what they're doing. 0.99
00:55:06.000 They don't have a vested interest in it.
00:55:08.000 They're not successful.
00:55:10.000 They're not happy.
00:55:11.000 They're not doing well. 0.98
00:55:12.000 They're trolls. 0.92
00:55:14.000 If you're talking about all Trump supporters, I think part of that is true. 0.70
00:55:17.000 I'm not talking about all anything.
00:55:17.000 Certainly not talking about all Trump supporters.
00:55:19.000 I'm talking about trolls. 1.00
00:55:20.000 Those people with the green frog fucking with the crazy hair on their Twitter profile. 1.00
00:55:25.000 I mean, there's a lot of them that if you go over their Twitter feed, they're online 13 hours a day shitting on people. 1.00
00:55:31.000 I mean, that's... 0.96
00:55:33.000 That's what some people do.
00:55:35.000 Look, there's a few people that I follow, and I don't follow them either.
00:55:38.000 I just go to their page.
00:55:39.000 I have them bookmarked. 1.00
00:55:41.000 And I'll go to their page like, look at this crazy asshole. 1.00
00:55:43.000 What's he been up to today? 1.00
00:55:44.000 And what have they been up to?
00:55:45.000 Just trolling liberals. 1.00
00:55:47.000 Just going crazy and shitting on that Jake Tapper guy. 1.00
00:55:50.000 Boy, that fucking guy's Twitter feed is a mess! 1.00
00:55:55.000 Why? 1.00
00:55:56.000 Because he fucking summoned the ire of the trolls. 0.99
00:55:59.000 There's a lot of people out there that are disenfranchised and very upset and unhappy and just can't wait to burn it down. 1.00
00:56:07.000 They just want to burn it all down. 0.99
00:56:09.000 They don't have any fucking stake in the game. 1.00
00:56:12.000 They want it to burn. 0.99
00:56:14.000 But then where do we go from that?
00:56:16.000 Well, those people need love, okay?
00:56:18.000 Give them love, Joe!
00:56:20.000 It's too late.
00:56:20.000 It's too late.
00:56:20.000 They got shitty parents.
00:56:21.000 They live in a shitty neighborhood. 1.00
00:56:23.000 Their job sucks. 1.00
00:56:23.000 They probably have poor genetics. 1.00
00:56:25.000 They're fucked. 1.00
00:56:26.000 They got a shit hand of life. 1.00
00:56:27.000 You're offending Jamie right now. 0.99
00:56:29.000 They're looking at Kate Upton.
00:56:29.000 Jamie's a handsome man.
00:56:30.000 He's a closet troll. 0.99
00:56:32.000 You don't even know. 1.00
00:56:33.000 Oh, Jamie's the opposite of a troll. 1.00
00:56:35.000 They're looking at Kate Upton and her beautiful tits, and they're like, fuck her, fuck everybody, burn it down! 1.00
00:56:40.000 Why can't I have this? 1.00
00:56:42.000 Oh, Conor McGregor's got a limousine. 0.98
00:56:44.000 Light him on fire! 0.85
00:56:45.000 That's what they're doing. 0.99
00:56:46.000 They're mad.
00:56:49.000 They're not happy, they're not successful, and they get to talk.
00:56:52.000 That's a big part of what you have in a society where people are being incredibly mean at every opportunity.
00:56:58.000 People have the opportunity to troll. 0.99
00:57:01.000 Did you see some of the shit that people wrote to Patton Oswalt after his wife died? 0.99
00:57:05.000 No, I didn't see any of the crazy stuff. 1.00
00:57:07.000 Unbelievably vicious, mean, evil shit. 1.00
00:57:09.000 And why do they do that? 1.00
00:57:10.000 Because they want I think it's part of it.
00:57:13.000 Part is going to be that they want to burn it down. 0.99
00:57:16.000 But I think it's just also there are a lot of people that don't have the concept of shit that we do online having potentially horrible ramifications in the real world. 0.98
00:57:23.000 I think that slowly we're getting closer to that where it's all the fucking same thing. 0.98
00:57:28.000 And if you do some crazy outlandish shit, you should know that a ton of people might see it. 0.96
00:57:33.000 It's why it's one of my favorite things to... 1.00
00:57:36.000 Screenshot and and and talk back to a few people that say stupid shit to me online Just because it's like you think that you're saying it in this like tiny room But the internet's fucking everybody in a room, right? 0.99
00:57:45.000 You know everyone like what you say has ramifications Well, not only that you shouldn't want to say it so you have to get to the root of the problem Like what why would someone want to be so evil? 0.99
00:57:55.000 Why would someone want to hurt someone's feelings so badly that you're mocking his I think there are a lot of people that just died I So that's a horrible emotional example.
00:58:06.000 Who and why?
00:58:07.000 Right.
00:58:07.000 So what I would say separately from that, if you're talking about trolling liberals or something like that, I think that there are people that want to burn the whole thing down, and then I think there are some people that literally have the mindset that it's just for laughs, right?
00:58:20.000 Well, it's a game.
00:58:21.000 Yeah, and so...
00:58:24.000 It's one of those things where I don't know, I don't think those people are inherently evil.
00:58:28.000 I think that, especially if you're talking about like a Patton Oswalt thing, that's incredibly wrong and horrible.
00:58:33.000 But it's like, my question becomes like, how do I talk to that person?
00:58:37.000 Right?
00:58:38.000 How do I not...
00:58:40.000 How do you talk to who?
00:58:41.000 Patton Oswalt or the troll? 0.93
00:58:42.000 No, the trolls.
00:58:43.000 Well, you gotta go back in time to where their mother was raising them and take them away from the mom and bring them to a happy person and give them love and lots of hugs.
00:58:51.000 I think people, as long as you don't automatically call someone the villain, I think that you can get some people. 0.97
00:58:57.000 Not all of them, because some people, like you said, they want to fucking throw a hand grenade. 0.93
00:59:00.000 If you don't automatically call them the villain when they're a troll? 0.98
00:59:02.000 When they're evil?
00:59:04.000 Is that what you mean?
00:59:05.000 Yes, when they're maybe saying something they would see as evil things. 0.99
00:59:07.000 I'm not talking about the Patton Oswalt situation, because if you go after someone grieving over their wife, you're a fucking horrible monster, and hopefully you do understand that that has real-world ramifications. 0.99
00:59:19.000 Okay. 0.99
00:59:19.000 Or not, if you're just an egg, you might be able to get away with it. 0.99
00:59:22.000 This little egg, you know, fuckface69 on Twitter, and you can get away with it. 0.99
00:59:29.000 They'll ban your account, whatever. 0.98
00:59:30.000 Ha ha, I got him.
00:59:32.000 I mean, that's what you're doing, trying to get a reaction.
00:59:34.000 It's like you're playing a game.
00:59:35.000 You're playing Operation, and when that tweezer hits the sides and goes...
00:59:40.000 Like, hi, I saw it.
00:59:42.000 It happened.
00:59:43.000 It was a thing.
00:59:43.000 Yeah, it was a thing.
00:59:44.000 Right.
00:59:45.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:59:46.000 I just...
00:59:47.000 I'm not going to do it myself.
00:59:49.000 Of course you're not.
00:59:49.000 But I want to try and talk.
00:59:51.000 I want to talk to people, man.
00:59:52.000 You do?
00:59:53.000 Yeah.
00:59:53.000 Why don't you have a show, a reach-out show?
00:59:57.000 It'll be good for two weeks, and then it'll just be... 0.93
00:59:59.000 I'll end up on one of those fucking Howard Stern things where they just have those people that get trolled the entire time. 0.95
01:00:05.000 It's like, we have another caller. 1.00
01:00:07.000 Goddamn! 0.99
01:00:08.000 It could be Windy City Heat. 0.99
01:00:10.000 You could have a whole movie about it.
01:00:11.000 You don't even know about it.
01:00:14.000 It's a new thing.
01:00:17.000 It's a new thing for human beings.
01:00:18.000 This unbridled communication ability.
01:00:21.000 And here's the thing.
01:00:23.000 There's going to be the whole, like, let's destroy each other war. 1.00
01:00:25.000 I'm just going to try and be the asshole... 1.00
01:00:28.000 That's in the middle with leanings here and there that tries to go like, hey, maybe we fucking calm down. 0.99
01:00:33.000 It's not the best thing for my career because I would have a far larger audience if I pandered to just one side because I alienate people daily by having left views and then right views.
01:00:44.000 Wait, that's so crazy.
01:00:46.000 You really think that your audience would be bigger if you just picked a side and ran with it?
01:00:50.000 Yes!
01:00:51.000 Are you kidding me?
01:00:52.000 Like who?
01:00:54.000 I think that Crowder is very fair.
01:00:56.000 Who in your area?
01:00:56.000 I think Crowder is fantastic.
01:00:58.000 He's one of the fairer guys.
01:01:00.000 But I think he does a great job.
01:01:01.000 He doesn't have a bigger audience than you.
01:01:03.000 Oh, bigger than me. 1.00
01:01:05.000 You're crazy. 1.00
01:01:06.000 Your audience is way bigger than his. 1.00
01:01:08.000 You have five fucking million YouTube subscribers. 0.99
01:01:11.000 Yeah, I mean, Daily Active is like a million. 1.00
01:01:13.000 So what?
01:01:13.000 That's a lot.
01:01:14.000 Right.
01:01:15.000 But I'm talking...
01:01:15.000 Okay, so Tommy Lahren.
01:01:17.000 Tommy Lahren's a fantastic example.
01:01:19.000 Okay.
01:01:19.000 Tommy Lahren hits tens of millions on Facebook.
01:01:21.000 Bad example.
01:01:22.000 Hot girl and a conservative. 1.00
01:01:24.000 And there's dudes out there greasing their guns with their dick in their left hand that are super excited about that. 1.00
01:01:28.000 They love a hot conservative. 1.00
01:01:30.000 Yeah, she's mean. 0.99
01:01:31.000 She don't like Mexicans. 1.00
01:01:32.000 Wow!
01:01:33.000 Wow, wow, wow!
01:01:36.000 But she is very one-side, right? 0.92
01:01:38.000 Yes. 0.76
01:01:39.000 It can be under the veil of, I hate snowflakes, but there's hypocrisy in that a little bit, in the sense of every time she's screaming, she does seem like a snowflake on some of the topics.
01:01:49.000 But don't you think that's for effect, though, for dramatic effect?
01:01:53.000 Because half of it is performance art.
01:01:54.000 Right, but that's the thing, right?
01:01:56.000 But it's aimed at one group of people, and you've seen the massive rise where...
01:01:59.000 It started as this kind of small thing.
01:02:01.000 It blew up.
01:02:02.000 Now you see her on Fox News, but she doesn't even need that because she has a giant platform. 1.00
01:02:07.000 Oh, but it's definitely a good move for her to be on Fox News. 0.98
01:02:10.000 Right, right.
01:02:11.000 It's a different audience, but it is playing to one side.
01:02:13.000 But I still don't think she's as big as you.
01:02:15.000 I think so.
01:02:16.000 No.
01:02:17.000 Go to her Twitter feed.
01:02:19.000 Find out what her Twitter feed is, how many she has, and then go...
01:02:23.000 How many Twitter people you got?
01:02:25.000 800,000?
01:02:26.000 I'm not huge on Twitter.
01:02:27.000 I bet she has less.
01:02:28.000 I bet she has less! 1.00
01:02:29.000 What about her?
01:02:30.000 You gotta look at the engagement, though.
01:02:31.000 How long has she been doing that? 0.95
01:02:33.000 You're one of those guys.
01:02:34.000 You're paying attention.
01:02:35.000 Yeah! 1.00
01:02:35.000 I don't pay attention to shit. 1.00
01:02:37.000 No, you don't care about the engagement if you're a sales guy and you're like, he has five million. 1.00
01:02:41.000 What does she got here?
01:02:42.000 642. Oh, you've got her beat.
01:02:44.000 Her engagement's a little over.
01:02:45.000 Oh, God.
01:02:45.000 Her engagement's a little low.
01:02:47.000 Hmm.
01:02:48.000 How weird.
01:02:49.000 Oh, she's got her hashtag final thoughts. 1.00
01:02:51.000 Fuck off, Tommy. 1.00
01:02:52.000 Oh, my God. 1.00
01:02:53.000 Fuck off your final thoughts. 1.00
01:02:55.000 Get out of here. 1.00
01:02:56.000 No, but she, like you were saying, whether you consider it performance art, whether you consider it anything, she plays one side, and it has been a very massive, successful rise.
01:03:05.000 I think that, but what I want to do for the long term...
01:03:07.000 But she's hot! 1.00
01:03:09.000 Okay?
01:03:10.000 You're not taking that into account.
01:03:12.000 Like, you're saying that if you went one way, show me another guy who's gone one way, who looks like you, a reasonable, normal-looking fella.
01:03:20.000 You're not some super buff pro athlete or some androgynous weirdo that people can't take their eyes away from.
01:03:29.000 You're just a regular guy.
01:03:30.000 If you're looking at maybe, like, Monthly views on owned and operated sites, YouTube, all the other places.
01:03:36.000 The Young Turks, who I'm not really a...
01:03:39.000 I know them, but I'm not a fan of the messaging a lot of the time.
01:03:44.000 They're massive.
01:03:45.000 I think they get more monthly views and stuff.
01:03:46.000 They've been around a long time doing that stuff, though.
01:03:49.000 They get a lot of monthly views.
01:03:51.000 But they also get a lot of hate, man.
01:03:53.000 There's a lot of people that hate watch Cenk.
01:03:55.000 Yeah, but there's also a shit ton of views on that. 0.70
01:03:58.000 Woo! 0.99
01:04:00.000 They go after him hard.
01:04:01.000 I hope he stays.
01:04:03.000 He should watch YouTube with like a blinder.
01:04:07.000 Like right there.
01:04:08.000 We could only look at the video. 0.98
01:04:10.000 He strapped some shit on where he can't read the comments at all. 0.99
01:04:14.000 Hire someone that only reads the happy comments. 0.99
01:04:16.000 Don't read them at all.
01:04:17.000 Don't even engage.
01:04:19.000 Stay away.
01:04:20.000 I like the conversations on mine, though.
01:04:22.000 I mean, you have people that are really passionate, but then there are a lot of threads where it's like people having conversations that don't normally disagree with each other.
01:04:29.000 Well, I'm saying this, the whole reason why I said it in the first place is more of a compliment than anything.
01:04:33.000 I think it's a great thing that you're very, like, here's a perfect example.
01:04:37.000 The way you handled the Milo Yiannopoulos thing.
01:04:40.000 I think you're very fair, and I think it's great that you're neither left nor right, but rather reasonable.
01:04:46.000 You know, you're reasonable and considered, and I think that's one of your strengths.
01:04:50.000 I don't think you'd have a bigger audience if you just went all right. 0.97
01:04:53.000 I think you'd be a big ol' phony, unless you became Felina and then you got some tits and put on a nice little dress and then you could wear like sleeveless shirts, you know, because right now if you wear sleeveless shirts, 1.00
01:05:09.000 you're a douchebag because you're a male, right? 1.00
01:05:12.000 If you're a man and you show your arms, you're a piece of shit. 1.00
01:05:15.000 Also, I gotta start going to the gym because no one wants to see that now. 1.00
01:05:18.000 Maybe they would.
01:05:18.000 Maybe they'd be like a Lena Dunham type thing to be even bigger.
01:05:21.000 So if you're gonna go and become a woman, you either become a hot woman or a fucking sloppy one. 1.00
01:05:26.000 A really sloppy one who celebrates food and this is who I am! 1.00
01:05:30.000 Love it or leave it! 1.00
01:05:31.000 Fuck off! 1.00
01:05:32.000 I find that the Lena Dunhams end up doing more damage to their cause than good. 1.00
01:05:37.000 Or she has 100 million Twitter followers and she's got food stuck in her teeth and no one gives a shit. 1.00
01:05:42.000 Big old fucking sloppy arms like a 300 pound man's legs. 1.00
01:05:47.000 There's nothing wrong with it. 1.00
01:05:50.000 I remember a few days before the election, she put out this fucking animated video where she was talking with her dad. 0.99
01:05:56.000 It was the death of the white male. 0.99
01:05:59.000 And I was like, oh, that's awesome.
01:06:01.000 Women empowerment by destruction of another. 0.99
01:06:04.000 Dope. 0.99
01:06:05.000 Amazing that she's doing it all on a platform invented by white males. 0.99
01:06:10.000 How bizarre.
01:06:10.000 Is that true?
01:06:11.000 For sure.
01:06:12.000 Is that true, Joe?
01:06:12.000 It's called the internet.
01:06:14.000 And Al Gore is white.
01:06:16.000 I know Al Gore.
01:06:17.000 And he invented it.
01:06:18.000 I saw his movie.
01:06:19.000 He's so white. 0.99
01:06:21.000 Well, the death of the white male. 0.99
01:06:23.000 What? 0.73
01:06:24.000 But whether it be like... 1.00
01:06:25.000 All those people who don't want to fuck me. 1.00
01:06:27.000 Death. 1.00
01:06:28.000 Oh god.
01:06:29.000 It was the Odell Beckham Jr. thing.
01:06:31.000 Did you see that?
01:06:32.000 This was a while ago. 1.00
01:06:33.000 She sat at the same table and she wrote this whole post about how he looked at her like she was a piece of garbage. 0.99
01:06:38.000 And he was like, what? 1.00
01:06:39.000 What are you talking about?
01:06:40.000 She just made it up.
01:06:41.000 She's like, I was just trying to be humorous.
01:06:43.000 Yeah.
01:06:44.000 Did she say the humorous thing?
01:06:45.000 I don't know.
01:06:45.000 Because I think she wrote this apology where she was like, it was all in my head.
01:06:49.000 And I was like, ah, God, again?
01:06:51.000 I tried to not mention her as much as possible, but it happened so often.
01:06:56.000 And you know, the weirdest thing was how she was giving a free pass for sexually assaulting her young sister.
01:07:01.000 Oh, the weird, like... 0.95
01:07:02.000 Shoving things up her vagina when she was little like what well so that's that's where right that's where when you say like I'm reasonable with a Milo thing well because you have to take into context other other people right is it is it a hit job but also what you said earlier where people are human beings and and look like let's talk it out so Milo said some some things that even he said he apologized for others he said was misconstrued but And then there's the George Takei thing, 0.97
01:07:28.000 which is different, but still the same. 0.98
01:07:30.000 Well, the George Takei thing, you have to explain to people, because most people have no idea what you're talking about.
01:07:34.000 Sorry, yeah.
01:07:35.000 This is a problem for me.
01:07:37.000 I have conversations in my head that then I utter words halfway through.
01:07:40.000 Well, you're just so entrenched with media. 1.00
01:07:42.000 You have so much shit coming into your head every day that you assume everybody else is watching the same videos. 0.99
01:07:46.000 But they're just actually living their lives. 0.99
01:07:48.000 So they did a hit piece on George Takei, essentially, to sort of show that George Takei Well, he was talking about his own personal experiences when he was very young with a camp counselor who did some sexually inappropriate things to him.
01:08:00.000 But he was talking about them in a very positive way, that he enjoyed it, and people were saying, George Takei is promoting sex amongst 13-year-olds as being okay.
01:08:09.000 No, he's talking about his own personal experience and being honest about it.
01:08:12.000 Well, and then the way that ends up becoming a comparison is that because it ends up being this weird argument of numbers, of lines in the sand, where he said, I said 13 because that's when I had my first experience.
01:08:24.000 Then we talked about the age of...
01:08:27.000 I'm trying to remember.
01:08:28.000 He talked about the age of 14, which was, I think, when you were...
01:08:31.000 So that was a conversation he had with you with the priest situation.
01:08:35.000 And then people were pointing out that his mindset changed.
01:08:39.000 And my argument there was, what you're talking about, to me, even if he, at any point before, before he acknowledged it, to me, it sounded like he was a victim.
01:08:48.000 But then that creates the argument, too, of...
01:08:51.000 If someone's a victim early in life, what does that excuse later on?
01:08:55.000 Now, I'm not making the argument that Milo then went on to do and became a Sandusky, right? 0.89
01:09:01.000 He was having a conversation, and it's words.
01:09:04.000 But at what point do we excuse things?
01:09:06.000 And that's a conversation I like to have, where it's not damning. 0.94
01:09:10.000 I don't want to go in on a victim, but also at the same time, I'm going, it's fucking weird.
01:09:15.000 It's a me, and I think it's completely wrong if you have an adult... 1.00
01:09:18.000 That's trying to fuck a 13-year-old. 1.00
01:09:20.000 I think that's completely wrong. 1.00
01:09:22.000 And I feel like you always have to put people in their shoes, where if I was a parent and I'm dropping my kid off to fucking middle school and I find out some 25-year-old is fucking my son, I'm going to go to jail, but that's going to be a fucking dead person. 0.99
01:09:36.000 A dead person, 100%. 0.99
01:09:38.000 Someone's molesting my child?
01:09:40.000 No.
01:09:41.000 Done.
01:09:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I completely feel you and I understand what you're saying.
01:09:47.000 I think the Milo situation is very bizarre because I think there is irreparable damage that's done to people when they're molested as children.
01:09:56.000 And I think Milo has been really clear about the fact that he was molested and he's tried to paint it in a positive light.
01:10:02.000 But he tries to paint a lot of fucked up things in a positive light and it could easily be his rationalizing and trying to figure out...
01:10:09.000 No one wants to be a victim in their own life, right?
01:10:11.000 So he's made it a positive thing.
01:10:13.000 He took control.
01:10:14.000 It was him.
01:10:14.000 So that's why I say, like, let's think of it in that way rather than going, he's against me.
01:10:20.000 Let's just destroy him.
01:10:21.000 Well, I think the problem is that Milo does that. 0.98
01:10:25.000 I mean, he's a merchant of outrage.
01:10:27.000 That's his business.
01:10:28.000 And when people get outraged back at him, and if somehow or another sticks, like this pedophile stuff...
01:10:34.000 You can't be upset.
01:10:36.000 This is the game that you just started to play. 0.97
01:10:38.000 If you get knocked the fuck out, if you're Mike Tyson and all of a sudden you get knocked out, are we supposed to feel bad for you? 0.97
01:10:43.000 You've been knocking people out your whole career. 0.99
01:10:46.000 He's a merchant of outrage.
01:10:47.000 If it's valid, if the outrage is valid, and I think it's valid, I think that what they're saying about what he was saying is absolutely valid.
01:11:04.000 Right.
01:11:06.000 Right.
01:11:19.000 Hop right over to the other side and start doing it because it was positive for Milo.
01:11:22.000 It does become a conversation.
01:11:23.000 He said it was beneficial.
01:11:23.000 It is the conversation.
01:11:24.000 It is the conversation.
01:11:25.000 Because also, to that extent, there might be someone that is 13 that's being abused that all of a sudden feels like that's normal.
01:11:30.000 Right, right.
01:11:31.000 But let's talk about it.
01:11:33.000 I 100% don't agree with the words.
01:11:35.000 It is a tricky situation because you are talking about someone that was a victim of heinous crime.
01:11:40.000 And then just talking about it and going from there.
01:11:44.000 But it's also he said that he was gay at the time. 0.99
01:11:47.000 He knew he was gay and he was the sexual predator. 0.98
01:11:49.000 And every situation has its own variables, right? 1.00
01:11:52.000 And in his...
01:11:54.000 Look, he's clearly a damaged guy, okay?
01:11:57.000 And I like him.
01:11:58.000 He's clearly a damaged guy.
01:12:00.000 But the way he lashes out and the way he gets attention...
01:12:04.000 I don't like the left's reaction to him.
01:12:06.000 I like that far less than I like what he's saying.
01:12:10.000 I feel like with a guy like Milo, he's not doing any real violent things.
01:12:14.000 He's not doing any real damage.
01:12:15.000 And what you should do is confront him with words.
01:12:18.000 Debate him. 0.99
01:12:20.000 Pick apart his arguments about feminism, about transgender people, about gay rights, because he's got some crazy thoughts about gay people, and he's gay. 0.98
01:12:29.000 He thinks that it's a choice, and he thinks that it's offensive, and if he could have a pill to not be gay, he would take it in a heartbeat. 1.00
01:12:37.000 He said all kinds of crazy shit. 0.99
01:12:38.000 I think when you have someone like Milo or anyone else, the number one thing shouldn't be, let me silence that person, right? 1.00
01:12:43.000 Because that's just going to, one, bolster them, validate them, let them talk. 0.96
01:12:48.000 So when you see situations like Berkeley, where I did see, I had people that sent me videos, and there was a protest in the beginning that it was just people being outspoken, and then there was the fucking crazy chaos of people, I know that you've talked about it before, of the people getting sprayed in the face with fucking pepper spray, 0.95
01:13:05.000 people beating in the streets. 0.98
01:13:07.000 Obviously, I hate those people.
01:13:08.000 What I really, really hate is the people that aren't doing that, that are like, yeah, that's what we should be doing, that aren't doing it. 1.00
01:13:16.000 Like, are you fucking crazy? 0.99
01:13:17.000 You think this is a positive? 1.00
01:13:19.000 You think this bolsters your argument that we're going to go against what we don't agree that they're saying with fucking violence? 0.98
01:13:26.000 You think that makes you the winner? 1.00
01:13:27.000 That's insane.
01:13:29.000 It's straight up insane.
01:13:30.000 Well, it's also, they put these blanket labels. 0.99
01:13:33.000 He's a Nazi. 0.95
01:13:35.000 He promotes genocide. 0.97
01:13:36.000 They say all these things, and they say these things so that they can attack.
01:13:40.000 Well, there was a whole, yeah, that whole, like... 0.98
01:13:42.000 He's a fascist. 0.94
01:13:43.000 Punch a Nazi movement after Richard Spencer got punched in the face, which, once again... 0.99
01:13:48.000 Who's Richard Spencer? 0.85
01:13:49.000 Oh, wait, wait, wait.
01:13:50.000 Am I getting the name wrong?
01:13:52.000 No, the guy that...
01:13:53.000 I'm gonna double check.
01:13:55.000 Go ahead.
01:13:55.000 You've made me doubt myself now.
01:13:57.000 He's part of...
01:13:59.000 You might be right.
01:14:03.000 I just don't know who it is.
01:14:05.000 Yeah.
01:14:06.000 You always see his face.
01:14:08.000 He just got booted out of CPAC, from my understanding.
01:14:11.000 So he talks about...
01:14:13.000 Just look him up.
01:14:15.000 I imagine you aren't going to be a fan.
01:14:16.000 But people are like, he's a literal Nazi. 1.00
01:14:18.000 We've got to punch these people. 1.00
01:14:20.000 People are overjoyed. 1.00
01:14:21.000 So he really is a Nazi?
01:14:23.000 People are just happy. 0.68
01:14:24.000 Is he a white supremacist, this guy?
01:14:26.000 I don't want to label this guy on it.
01:14:28.000 I think that you should...
01:14:30.000 Does he call himself a white nationalist or anything like that?
01:14:33.000 That's the website. 0.89
01:14:35.000 Oh, he's a neo-nazi.
01:14:37.000 I don't know if he calls himself that.
01:14:38.000 I'll double check.
01:14:39.000 Yeah, that's the thing.
01:14:39.000 I don't want to slam a label on someone and then do that thing.
01:14:43.000 Right?
01:14:43.000 It's so hard.
01:14:45.000 So he got punched in the face. 0.99
01:14:46.000 Everyone fucking cheered for it. 1.00
01:14:47.000 But the problem is then you move the goalposts of who's a fucking Nazi. 1.00
01:14:51.000 All of a sudden, PewDiePie's a fucking Nazi. 1.00
01:14:54.000 Everyone's a Nazi and we can just be violent. 1.00
01:14:56.000 Punch Nazis. 1.00
01:14:57.000 Yeah, the punch Nazi thing. 0.76
01:14:59.000 And so the whole thing is just debate these people, right?
01:15:02.000 So just let them be their own undoing if they are actually that wrong.
01:15:06.000 Well, I think there's a giant problem with groups of humans.
01:15:10.000 When groups of humans get together, I mean, the phrase mob mentality exists for a reason.
01:15:15.000 You don't say mob mentality.
01:15:17.000 People go, why, whatever do you mean, Philly D? What is a mob mentality?
01:15:21.000 No, people know what happens.
01:15:22.000 Giant groups of people face something called diffusion of responsibility.
01:15:26.000 And that means when chaotic events are going on, they don't take responsibility for their own action because they're a part of this gigantic chaotic movement.
01:15:32.000 And I've personally, and this is just Totally unfounded.
01:15:35.000 I'm definitely not a scientist.
01:15:37.000 I think it came from war. 0.91
01:15:38.000 And I think people are used to large-scale tribal war, and I think it's been going on for so long, and the atrocities that are required for you to survive in war, like, you know, with battle axes and shit, Braveheart style.
01:15:49.000 I think once that breaks out, you lock into this massive mind sink with all the people around you, and you just accept this violent chaos.
01:15:59.000 And I think that happens on campuses, when people...
01:16:03.000 Burn it down!
01:16:04.000 Burn it down! 0.99
01:16:05.000 That is the same mindset.
01:16:07.000 Everyone is involved in this hurricane of chaos, and you just get swept up in this mob mentality.
01:16:14.000 And it's a really dangerous thing.
01:16:16.000 You know, like, I'm sure you saw the girl that got maced in the face that had the mate Bitcoin Great Again hat, and they hit her over the head with a stick. 0.99
01:16:23.000 Like, what in the fuck are you doing? 0.99
01:16:25.000 Yeah, if you think that's okay, I think you're in the wrong. 1.00
01:16:27.000 100%.
01:16:27.000 It's just a girl.
01:16:29.000 Just a girl, non-violent, non-motion.
01:16:32.000 She was stationary.
01:16:34.000 She was not threatening whatsoever.
01:16:35.000 I think if you listen to the audio before all of it happens, outside of that clip, she's literally saying, I'm actually surprised things are pretty calm here.
01:16:43.000 Because sometimes things go out of hand, and then 20 seconds later, pepper spray to the face.
01:16:48.000 Yeah.
01:16:48.000 They just decided that her hat was a Trump hat.
01:16:50.000 And so they just blasted her.
01:16:52.000 It wasn't even a Trump hat.
01:16:53.000 I mean, it's just, it had the right font.
01:16:55.000 Yeah.
01:16:56.000 So she had to get punished.
01:16:58.000 And that's, and so I feel like that's the big thing of understanding.
01:17:01.000 Wasn't it a 60 year old man that did it to her too?
01:17:03.000 I don't know that.
01:17:04.000 Something insane?
01:17:04.000 I don't know that.
01:17:05.000 Find out that, because someone told me that, that it was a 60-year-old man that pepper sprayed her in the face. 0.96
01:17:11.000 So, I mean, obviously we're talking about different kinds of severity, but there are people on both sides, and it's important to acknowledge that, that want to burn the whole fucking thing down, whether it be a person or an argument. 0.99
01:17:21.000 Yeah, and if you're a 60-year-old man, you're still a fucking loser, and there's a pretty girl in front of you, and you're like, burn it down! 1.00
01:17:28.000 I could never fuck you when I was young, and I can't fuck you now! 1.00
01:17:33.000 Ugh. 1.00
01:17:34.000 Yeah. 0.98
01:17:34.000 Nazis! 0.98
01:17:35.000 It's ridiculous, man. 0.99
01:17:37.000 I'm very much of the belief that we have, rather than... 0.93
01:17:40.000 More and more people are talking about generalities, where it's the left versus the right.
01:17:44.000 I feel like a lot of the conversation, a lot of the stories end up being about these far left and far right people that are fucking Pac-manning their way to the middle and just slowly absorbing more and more people.
01:17:55.000 Into their opinion.
01:17:56.000 And what's scary is if they ever do get to the center, right?
01:18:00.000 If it does become all of us in an us versus them. 0.78
01:18:03.000 On Facebook, it's a lot closer to that.
01:18:05.000 You really think so?
01:18:06.000 Yeah.
01:18:07.000 How so?
01:18:08.000 After the election, I don't know about your personal family and friend group, but how many people cut off contact with each other for a while? 0.99
01:18:15.000 Because on mine, holy fuck, it was like war. 0.97
01:18:18.000 It was war, ending of relationships that had been longer than a decade. 0.99
01:18:24.000 Really?
01:18:24.000 Like your family?
01:18:26.000 Family members?
01:18:27.000 Yeah.
01:18:27.000 Most of it, a lot of it's extended.
01:18:29.000 Oh, man.
01:18:30.000 What happened?
01:18:31.000 Just people just saying like, well, one, there was a, I come from a family that they're fine with like independence.
01:18:40.000 So there was, right after the election, there was that whole like, all independents did this.
01:18:43.000 Even in California. 0.99
01:18:45.000 If you voted for fucking anybody. 1.00
01:18:47.000 If you voted for Jill Stein, you took votes away from Hillary Clinton. 1.00
01:18:50.000 Like, do you know how the electoral college works, you fucking idiot? 1.00
01:18:53.000 Like, oh, California's gonna go to someone else? 1.00
01:18:57.000 But yeah, just people going at each other. 1.00
01:18:58.000 Because they're like, if you voted for Trump, you're a racist, sexist monster. 1.00
01:19:03.000 And if you voted for Hillary, you wanted people to not have healthcare, and she's a fucking crook, and she should be in jail. 1.00
01:19:10.000 Train the swamp. 1.00
01:19:11.000 Yeah.
01:19:12.000 I went to...
01:19:13.000 I love the people I work with, but emotions were high.
01:19:17.000 People at my office were...
01:19:19.000 We have a team of like 40 outside of my group, but people were crying.
01:19:21.000 It was chaos.
01:19:23.000 I know a dude who was in the CIA, and he was telling me about his office where he works, that one of the women at the office was openly weeping.
01:19:32.000 Oh, wow.
01:19:32.000 And he's like, uh, hey...
01:19:35.000 You can't do that here.
01:19:36.000 This is not the place for that.
01:19:38.000 This is a weep-free zone.
01:19:40.000 You can't weep over democracy not going your way.
01:19:43.000 I mean, for a lot of liberals, I knew it was like a national day of mourning.
01:19:47.000 Yeah.
01:19:48.000 And then for everyone else that voted for them, it was just the day that we'll always remember.
01:19:53.000 Oh, there was a lot of people that were super happy.
01:19:54.000 That's for sure.
01:19:56.000 Yeah, I feel like everyone was was either like burning bridges or Coming out to their friends in a way of like our friends and family as Trump supporters because there are a lot of people that were scared.
01:20:06.000 Yeah Well, I think that he represents a lot of very dangerous things You know and he in a lot of people's eyes.
01:20:14.000 This is the death of responsibility He can get away with more things and then also these We're good to go.
01:20:44.000 Forget about Obama's policies, okay?
01:20:46.000 But him as a human being standing in front of that podium talking as the president was a joy, in that he was very measured and very calm, and I think that he's also very articulate and very well-educated,
01:21:02.000 and that thing that he represented when he was up there, that thing, the president, ta-da, ta-da, that figurehead that he represented, he did such an amazing job of representing that, because he was exceptional.
01:21:13.000 He's an exceptional man.
01:21:14.000 He's exceptionally smart.
01:21:15.000 He's exceptionally well-read.
01:21:18.000 The way he communicates is smooth.
01:21:20.000 Even the way he's responded to criticism was very well measured. 0.96
01:21:24.000 Although he did fuck up when he was joking around about Trump back in the day. 0.90
01:21:29.000 He was joking about Trump's criticism of him. 0.99
01:21:33.000 But you know what?
01:21:35.000 I'm one thing that you'll never be.
01:21:36.000 The president.
01:21:37.000 Ha! 1.00
01:21:38.000 You fucked up! 1.00
01:21:39.000 So I agree. 1.00
01:21:40.000 I agree with what you said about, like, I think he's going to be one of the most well-spoken presidents of my lifetime.
01:21:45.000 Yeah, well-received after the fact.
01:21:47.000 There's going to be a lot of people that look at that and go, yes, but it was all phony.
01:21:51.000 It was all an act.
01:21:54.000 Maybe.
01:21:57.000 Six syllables at a time and break and then go on tangents.
01:22:00.000 Bad things.
01:22:01.000 Very bad things.
01:22:03.000 Hey, it's in the bubble.
01:22:04.000 Some bad things.
01:22:04.000 It's in the bubble of bad hombres.
01:22:08.000 But I feel like there are people that go, you know, he's not the best speaker in the world, but...
01:22:13.000 He's more real, right?
01:22:15.000 So there's gonna be that argument. 0.99
01:22:16.000 I 100% agree with you about Obama as far as the office and the nobility, but there are gonna be people that say it's just bullshit. 0.96
01:22:22.000 That's why we needed something different. 0.88
01:22:24.000 Well, maybe, but there's other people that look at the whole thing and they say this is a well-needed break from the system.
01:22:34.000 I think it's a big test.
01:22:36.000 It's a test of our system.
01:22:38.000 Well, there's been people that have been controlling the system, people that were deeply entrenched in the left and deeply entrenched in the right for so long, and he's the first businessman that has been...
01:22:51.000 He's been a participant in our system.
01:22:53.000 He's been essentially paying these guys off for years and years, and now here he is.
01:22:58.000 Like, he talked pretty openly, which I thought was hilarious, about Hillary and Bill coming to his wedding, and that the reason why they did it is because he paid them.
01:23:08.000 You know, I mean, he paid them, I think it was more than $100,000 for them to come to his wedding.
01:23:13.000 Oh, wow.
01:23:13.000 Yeah.
01:23:14.000 That's just how they do things.
01:23:16.000 Do you mean, like, do you think he literally paid them or he gave them a donation and then they were like, well, we might as well.
01:23:21.000 Donation.
01:23:21.000 I mean, let's be real about what the Clinton Foundation is, whether or not it did good work.
01:23:25.000 It's a goddamn pay-to-play operation, and one of the things they got, besides the donations, which I'm sure did go to charitable causes, they got paid to speak. 0.96
01:23:33.000 They didn't just get paid to speak a little. 0.99
01:23:35.000 They got paid to speak hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they did it over and over and over again, both Bill and Hillary.
01:23:41.000 And there's a reason why, for the same reason why Trump won't release his taxes, Hillary won't release the transcripts of those speeches that she gave to the banks, because they would be horrific. 1.00
01:23:51.000 If they weren't horrific, she would release them.
01:23:53.000 It would be really simple.
01:23:54.000 No, I said some great things about income equality and how we all need to support impoverished communities. 1.00
01:24:00.000 Fuck you, you did. 1.00
01:24:01.000 Because if you did, you would release that. 1.00
01:24:03.000 And everybody would go, oh, even though Hillary's worth millions of dollars, she's super fair. 1.00
01:24:07.000 Right.
01:24:07.000 She's reasonable.
01:24:09.000 No, there was none of that.
01:24:10.000 There's a reason.
01:24:10.000 Yeah.
01:24:11.000 There's a reason.
01:24:12.000 It's a corrupt system, man. 0.94
01:24:13.000 It's a system that they've figured out how to find loopholes, and they've created legislation over the years that have allowed them to skirt through these weird sort of fucking avenues of legality, and they get to this point where they're making insane amounts of money as a public servant. 0.98
01:24:30.000 I mean, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton have earned hundreds of fucking millions of dollars, and Doing what? 0.57
01:24:38.000 Do you have a business? 0.99
01:24:39.000 Are you selling laptops?
01:24:40.000 What are you doing?
01:24:41.000 Do you have a new car that you're selling? 1.00
01:24:42.000 Where are you making all this fucking money? 1.00
01:24:44.000 Oh, just talking! 1.00
01:24:45.000 How weird!
01:24:47.000 You're making hundreds of millions of dollars talking when you used to be the president.
01:24:50.000 Who's paying you?
01:24:51.000 Oh, this is weird.
01:24:52.000 The people that are paying you are the people that benefited from you being in the...
01:24:57.000 Wait a minute.
01:24:57.000 Do they pay you off?
01:24:59.000 Hold on.
01:25:01.000 It's different. 0.99
01:25:01.000 Are you corrupt? 0.99
01:25:02.000 It's different. 0.94
01:25:02.000 Exactly. 0.94
01:25:03.000 But that's the argument, and that's what it is. 1.00
01:25:05.000 And that's the drain the swamp shit. 1.00
01:25:07.000 I mean, that's where it came from. 0.99
01:25:08.000 So Donald Trump's not guilty of that.
01:25:11.000 Of doing that sort of thing?
01:25:12.000 That thing.
01:25:13.000 He's not guilty of getting paid hundreds of millions of dollars to talk and to give his influence as a person who's serving, whether it's the Senate or someone who's a president.
01:25:25.000 That's not why he's getting that money.
01:25:27.000 He's corrupt in a totally different way.
01:25:30.000 Yeah, he's a special one. 0.55
01:25:33.000 He's a special one.
01:25:34.000 I don't know.
01:25:35.000 I get exhausted about it.
01:25:37.000 It's exhausting.
01:25:38.000 I hate even talking about it.
01:25:39.000 People are mad right now.
01:25:40.000 Stop! 1.00
01:25:40.000 Oh, are they? 1.00
01:25:41.000 Are they hitting you?
01:25:41.000 I'm sure they are.
01:25:42.000 They're like fucking Joe Rogan. 1.00
01:25:44.000 Enough! 1.00
01:25:44.000 You don't know anything about politics! 1.00
01:25:46.000 Which, they're right. 1.00
01:25:47.000 I should probably shut the fuck up. 0.99
01:25:48.000 I should probably learn more and then get more upset and then talk more. 0.99
01:25:51.000 I used to joke about, I mean, I still do it from time to time, that I would want to be president, but when you see these dudes become president, they look like one month in, they look like they're in a race they didn't train for.
01:26:02.000 Somebody should have a picture of Trump now.
01:26:05.000 Well, he talked at CPAC this morning, and he was on the prompters, but I was just like...
01:26:09.000 I don't know if it's the white balance on this video, but...
01:26:12.000 Oh wait, what's that?
01:26:13.000 Oh, 5k, man?
01:26:15.000 This is my friend Cameron Haynes.
01:26:16.000 Keep hammering.
01:26:17.000 5k.
01:26:17.000 The only race I've ever run.
01:26:18.000 I ran a 5k.
01:26:20.000 Ask me how many times I ran a train for it.
01:26:23.000 Seven?
01:26:23.000 Zero!
01:26:24.000 I thought it was going to be zero, but I thought you were going to fuck with me. 1.00
01:26:26.000 I ran the race. 0.99
01:26:27.000 I didn't train at all.
01:26:28.000 So that's the same thing.
01:26:29.000 You caught me at the end of that race.
01:26:31.000 I was like, whoa.
01:26:31.000 Dead.
01:26:32.000 That's hard to do.
01:26:33.000 Even if you're in shape.
01:26:34.000 It's a lot longer than I thought it was.
01:26:36.000 It's more difficult to run 5k than it seems.
01:26:39.000 It seems like I work out all the time. 0.99
01:26:40.000 This is for pussies. 0.99
01:26:41.000 I'll just go run it. 0.99
01:26:42.000 Now, I think if you think that you could be the president, like, I have a masoning stamina.
01:26:48.000 I have a winning mentality.
01:26:51.000 Winning temperament, you know, like once you get in there, man, that guy looks bewildered.
01:26:54.000 That press conference that he did the other day where he's just going on and on about everything. 0.99
01:26:59.000 Holy shit, that was terrifying to me. 0.99
01:27:01.000 But I had friends that are conservatives that texted me afterwards, go, he looks unstable. 0.99
01:27:04.000 This is making me nervous.
01:27:06.000 Well, there you go. 1.00
01:27:07.000 At least you're Make America Great Again, you fucks. 0.99
01:27:09.000 Kellyanne Conway hasn't been on TV for a while, but some of the last ones, she just looked like she was wrecked. 1.00
01:27:13.000 They got her in a bunker somewhere.
01:27:15.000 They're feeding her Adderall and they're telling her what to say.
01:27:17.000 She's just like, I don't know if I could do this.
01:27:18.000 I would probably collapse under it all.
01:27:22.000 Oh, for sure I would collapse. 1.00
01:27:23.000 I would decide everything on fucking internet polls. 1.00
01:27:26.000 Like, you fucking run this thing. 1.00
01:27:27.000 Dude, first of all, I'd be drunk on TV all the time. 1.00
01:27:30.000 I'd be smoking weed.
01:27:31.000 I'd be like... 0.96
01:27:32.000 We gotta just burn it down. 0.99
01:27:34.000 The whole system. 1.00
01:27:35.000 Burn it down. 0.64
01:27:36.000 It would be like when they found Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now in the desert.
01:27:40.000 He's talking about the snail going across the razor blade.
01:27:42.000 That's what I'd be like.
01:27:43.000 The snail going across the razor blade.
01:27:47.000 I feel like it's really right now with everyone that's involved in it.
01:27:51.000 It's a it's a test of endurance.
01:27:52.000 Oh, yeah, right It's who's gonna last the longest who's gonna who's gonna keep on fighting. 0.70
01:27:56.000 It's shaking You know, we're having an earthquake and the earthquake is gonna fuck up all those shitty buildings all the the ones without the strong foundation They're gonna they're gonna be wrecked and we're gonna have to condemn them and tear them down and start fresh and See I don't like it. 0.69
01:28:15.000 I don't like how this is going. 0.94
01:28:17.000 I would have hoped that we got a savior.
01:28:19.000 I would have hoped that someone stepped in that was a really reasonable person, but I don't think a reasonable person even can get traction. 1.00
01:28:25.000 I think our system is so fucked up that we almost might benefit from some crazy asshole coming in here and doing what he's doing. 0.99
01:28:32.000 Well, I don't think you get a normal person who, one, wants to be president and then gets propped up by all the people that are already in power. 1.00
01:28:39.000 You don't get that person.
01:28:41.000 Couldn't agree more.
01:28:41.000 Right?
01:28:42.000 It's like, oh, this person has baggage. 0.99
01:28:43.000 Everyone at that fucking point has to have baggage. 0.99
01:28:46.000 Right. 0.99
01:28:46.000 Which is one of the more impressive things about Obama, is that he was so measured. 0.99
01:28:51.000 And, you know, it wasn't vindictive.
01:28:53.000 I mean, maybe behind the scenes he killed a few people.
01:28:55.000 Well, I don't know.
01:28:56.000 I mean, when you say few people, people go, well, what about drones, though?
01:28:59.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:59.000 What about drones?
01:29:00.000 I was exactly thinking that.
01:29:01.000 Yeah.
01:29:01.000 I mean, he certainly is responsible for that.
01:29:03.000 They killed something like 80% civilians.
01:29:06.000 Oh, that's 80% of entire populations?
01:29:09.000 I was like, what?
01:29:10.000 I think that was the most recent statistic.
01:29:12.000 Find out innocent deaths by drone by percentage.
01:29:17.000 I really think it's super high.
01:29:19.000 It's scary high.
01:29:20.000 Even you saying that sentence, it's horrifying that that statistic exists, right?
01:29:24.000 I know.
01:29:24.000 It's like, hey, can we just Google the horror...
01:29:27.000 Google horrific things happening right now.
01:29:29.000 Just wedding parties.
01:29:32.000 Just Hellfire missiles on wedding parties.
01:29:34.000 That's the internet right now.
01:29:35.000 It's us, everyone yelling about politics, and cats.
01:29:38.000 What do you got, Jamie?
01:29:39.000 What'd you say?
01:29:39.000 This is the top one that popped up.
01:29:41.000 Nearly 90% of people killed in recent drone strikes were not the target. 1.00
01:29:46.000 Fuck. 0.99
01:29:46.000 This was 2015 October. 0.99
01:29:48.000 Jesus Christ.
01:29:49.000 But guys, they fixed it.
01:29:50.000 They fixed it from then. 0.99
01:29:51.000 My fucking head hurts, man. 0.99
01:29:53.000 The Huffington Post put this article out, and everyone was like, you know what, let's chill. 0.99
01:29:56.000 And then the world was happy. 0.99
01:29:57.000 My fucking head hurts when you read things like that. 0.99
01:30:00.000 Yeah, I mean, we live in... 0.99
01:30:02.000 I mean, things are a bit chaotic, or are chaotic now, but we live in Disneyland compared to most of the world, and I think that's important for people to remember.
01:30:09.000 For sure.
01:30:10.000 But the problem is those people that are over there in non-Disneyland, they're just like you or I. They just got a shitty roll of the dice. 0.87
01:30:17.000 That's what's fucked. 1.00
01:30:18.000 And that's what's fucked up about this whole refugee thing, you know, this idea that somehow or another, if someone's a Muslim, you can keep them from coming into this country. 1.00
01:30:25.000 Like, man, I know a lot of Muslims and they're nice people. 0.99
01:30:28.000 Like, you can't, like, just because someone believes wacky shit, okay, whether they're Moonies or whether they're Mormons, whether, I know some really nice Mormons. 0.99
01:30:36.000 They're fucking great people. 1.00
01:30:38.000 If you said, should you get rid of them? 1.00
01:30:39.000 I'd say, no!
01:30:40.000 You don't listen to them.
01:30:42.000 You don't really get a planet when you die.
01:30:44.000 You don't have to wear the magic underwear, but they're nice folks. 1.00
01:30:47.000 I know people that believe nutty shit. 1.00
01:30:49.000 One of my best friends believes that the fucking government is spraying things out of the back of planes. 1.00
01:30:53.000 When you see those contrails in the sky, he thinks it's like, what does he call this? 0.98
01:30:57.000 Strategic aerosol injection?
01:30:59.000 It's an SAI program.
01:31:01.000 No, it's not!
01:31:02.000 But I love them! 0.98
01:31:03.000 You know, there's a lot of people that believe some ridiculous shit, and they need the opportunity, just like all of us do, to have peace and prosperity, and to have the opportunity to take in more information that may make you reconsider your belief system. 0.98
01:31:17.000 Yeah, I feel like when it comes to the immigration thing, there's people on two fronts, right? 0.99
01:31:20.000 There's one as far as general immigration, people coming through legally from countries, and then there's also the refugee program, right?
01:31:29.000 And so...
01:31:30.000 What I've seen is a lot of arguments of, okay, so you're saying that these people are displaced.
01:31:35.000 They're having to go through all these horrible things.
01:31:37.000 People are saying, why is that my problem?
01:31:40.000 Is it because America is the land of dreams and we should offer that because we're great? 0.69
01:31:46.000 Why should that, and then, once again, not my argument, but why is that taking precedent over me, who's, you know, I went to college, things haven't worked out, my life's fucking in shambles, I have people yelling that I have white privilege all the time, 0.95
01:32:02.000 and the fucking, seems like the world's more and more against me every day. 0.93
01:32:05.000 Why, if, and in their head, like, all these people are at risk, right? 0.99
01:32:09.000 First of all, let me stop right there.
01:32:10.000 Yeah.
01:32:10.000 For that guy, I got three words.
01:32:13.000 Okay. 1.00
01:32:15.000 Go fuck yourself. 1.00
01:32:17.000 And then four words. 1.00
01:32:18.000 Suck it up, pussy. 1.00
01:32:21.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
01:32:24.000 People calling you white privilege?
01:32:26.000 You're freaking out? 1.00
01:32:27.000 You're in America, bitch! 1.00
01:32:29.000 If things aren't going well, work harder, figure it out. 1.00
01:32:33.000 You're a white guy in America.
01:32:35.000 You're so lucky! 1.00
01:32:37.000 Are you finding shit to complain about? 0.99
01:32:39.000 Look, everybody has their own hand that they're dealt, right? 1.00
01:32:42.000 And some people are in impoverished fucking coal miner communities in West Virginia, and some people are born in Marin County with a fucking silver spoon in their mouth. 0.99
01:32:50.000 Granted, we're all aware of that. 1.00
01:32:51.000 But if you don't think that your opportunities are far greater because you live in America than they are if you're a Syrian refugee coming over here wrapped up in a fucking tent, you're crazy. 1.00
01:33:02.000 You're crazy. 1.00
01:33:02.000 And one of the things that makes this place so fucking special is that it's the land of opportunity. 1.00
01:33:08.000 As soon as you stop having it be the land of opportunity, you stop taking in those new people, you stop giving those people that opportunity, and then you make this place a different thing. 0.99
01:33:17.000 You make this place this secluded, isolated, you know, put the fence up, put the wall up, everybody in is in, everybody else could go fuck themselves. 0.98
01:33:28.000 That's not what it is. 0.98
01:33:29.000 You're changing what it is.
01:33:31.000 This is the land of opportunity. 0.94
01:33:33.000 This is a country that was founded entirely by immigrants who kill the natives. 1.00
01:33:38.000 But that's what we are.
01:33:42.000 Well, there's certainly good and bad to all forms of immigration, and there's certainly good and bad to cultural integration.
01:33:50.000 Cultural integration is where things get really problematic, especially for women. 0.90
01:33:54.000 For women and women that have dealt with all the horrific situations that have happened in all these European countries where Muslims have come in and the radical ones have wanted to enforce their ideas, the Sharia law ideas on the women in the area,
01:34:09.000 and they see women walking around in miniskirts.
01:34:12.000 All that stuff is a real problem.
01:34:14.000 The integration of cultural norms and values into a Western society that has just a completely different idea of what's acceptable and not acceptable. 0.98
01:34:23.000 That's going to take some fucking time. 0.99
01:34:24.000 And if I was in that area, I'd get the fuck out of Dodge. 0.99
01:34:27.000 I would not want to be around if there's a culture war going on, where people are fighting and arguing over ideas that may or may not include your wife, your daughter, your mother. 0.97
01:34:36.000 That's too dangerous. 0.95
01:34:37.000 So then you'd have a lot of those same people that I talk about saying, well, why the fuck should I have to move because we're this thing? 0.97
01:34:43.000 You can't let that happen in America. 0.96
01:34:45.000 That is a different thing.
01:34:46.000 But that's the problem.
01:34:47.000 You cannot let that happen in America.
01:34:49.000 If you get people that are coming, you have to have a no tolerance policy to anyone that's giving anyone a hard time Over accepted values in America, like the way women are allowed to dress or driving cars. 0.99
01:35:01.000 What if you come over from Saudi Arabia and you want to kill all the women that are driving cars? 0.99
01:35:04.000 You know, like what if you want to impart Sharia law on women that are committing adultery or doing any of the things that are just... 1.00
01:35:13.000 There's no law against a girl deciding to fuck a hundred guys in America. 1.00
01:35:17.000 If a girl decides to rent out a warehouse and go, hey, first hundred guys get to fuck me, come on in. 1.00
01:35:22.000 In another country, you could be put to death for that. 1.00
01:35:25.000 That's real.
01:35:26.000 There are women that are arrested that are sexually assaulted.
01:35:29.000 Yes.
01:35:31.000 What sucks is it's not like, that was one story. 0.84
01:35:33.000 There are so many stories over the years, and it's horrifying.
01:35:37.000 That's why I then argue, because even to the point that you're saying, There are people that are scared of that.
01:35:42.000 Well, there has to be some sort of a zero tolerance policy for subjecting other people to your ideas and beliefs in that way.
01:35:49.000 But also, every culture evolves.
01:35:53.000 I mean, Christians used to be a part of the Inquisition.
01:35:57.000 I mean, they were torturing people, and they're getting people to confess to horrific crimes that they never really did.
01:36:03.000 They did all sorts of things to people that were nonbelievers, and that was a normal part of life in some parts of the world a long time ago. 0.99
01:36:11.000 We have to assume that that kind of progress is not just isolated to Christians.
01:36:16.000 It's not just something that one belief system can sort of embody that sort of evolution.
01:36:23.000 This can be something that we experience in a lot of different Thank you.
01:36:28.000 A lot of different ideologies.
01:36:29.000 And then the opportunity to educate those people in a place where they're free might be the only way that's ever going to change.
01:36:36.000 In the echo chamber of the Middle East, where these people are growing up in these... 0.99
01:36:39.000 And obviously, you're talking about places with very few resources, really dangerous environments for everyone.
01:36:46.000 You know, if you're living in these incredibly impoverished Middle Eastern places where these people are fleeing.
01:36:51.000 I mean, you've seen the videos of Aleppo.
01:36:54.000 You've seen the stuff of the news.
01:36:55.000 I mean, it's...
01:36:57.000 Anything's better than that, right? 0.96
01:36:58.000 Anything's better than being in a bomb zone where things are just going off left and right and suicide bombings and missiles and chaos and death and Isis throwing people off the roof for being gay.
01:37:09.000 I mean, it's just horrific So those people that are living in that it's almost like their life is It can't get any worse. 0.99
01:37:17.000 They're in hell.
01:37:18.000 They're literally in an apocalypse right now.
01:37:20.000 If you look at a Mel Gibson movie, look at any kind of crazy Mad Max movie, how is that any different than Syria right now? 1.00
01:37:26.000 I mean, it's really not.
01:37:27.000 It's just, we know that one of the reasons why...
01:37:31.000 We don't consider this the apocalypse right now.
01:37:34.000 It's because it's not the apocalypse here in Woodland Hills.
01:37:36.000 But it's the apocalypse in Syria. 0.84
01:37:39.000 It's the apocalypse in pockets of the world where things are absolutely horrific.
01:37:45.000 And those areas, we're scared, those areas are going to come here and make us the apocalypse too.
01:37:52.000 Yeah.
01:37:53.000 I mean, it goes back to the Disneyland thing.
01:37:54.000 We're at Disneyland and we're really pissed that some of the rides are closed and we're in line and we feel like other people are getting ahead.
01:38:01.000 But it's not that.
01:38:04.000 It doesn't compare.
01:38:06.000 But...
01:38:07.000 I have a bleeding heart in some capacities when you see those things and you're like, we have to help whoever we have to help.
01:38:13.000 But my goal is to always understand the guy that doesn't want to have to fucking move out of his neighborhood because all these people came in and the culture changed.
01:38:22.000 It's just taking into account his mindset. 0.92
01:38:25.000 Even you said, all of a sudden you're worried about your daughter, your wife, that there are people that have that mindset.
01:38:31.000 And we're human beings.
01:38:32.000 It's the easiest thing in the world to create an us-versus-them argument, especially if there's fear unto my family.
01:38:39.000 You have fear for yourself, but any time all of a sudden you have a family, it's next level.
01:38:46.000 Well, also I think people are worried about people coming over here and not integrating.
01:38:50.000 They're coming over here and then they start these communities where they all use the same language, they all use the same language.
01:38:57.000 The same written language on their signs, and then they develop these Chinatown type neighborhoods.
01:39:02.000 Not disparaging Chinatown in any way, but that's just as an example of ethnic communities that sort of stay isolated.
01:39:08.000 Like, there's places in Chinatown where you go and no one's speaking English.
01:39:11.000 They're all just running around speaking Chinese and they can't speak English, but they figured out a way to integrate.
01:39:15.000 There's also Latino communities in this country that are like that similarly as well.
01:39:20.000 And I think people are worried about that, like that spreading.
01:39:23.000 And they say that that has actually happened in parts of Paris, and it's happened in parts of Germany, where these people have come over from other countries as refugees, and they've established communities, and then they enforce their laws.
01:39:34.000 And that was something that Milo was going to do.
01:39:38.000 He was going to do some sort of a march, and he was going to do like some gay march through, I think it was Sweden. 0.80
01:39:48.000 I think he was going to go through the worst Muslim neighborhoods in Sweden, but they just decided it was far too dangerous.
01:39:53.000 Sweden had so much promo in the past week.
01:39:55.000 A lot of Sweden promo.
01:39:57.000 They're in denial.
01:39:58.000 They're like, no, we're fine.
01:39:59.000 Hey, we haven't done anything.
01:40:00.000 And then right after they said that, some horrific...
01:40:03.000 Outbreak took place like by the way It's got a little violence going on there now that you didn't used to have right around but the growing pains like if you take people from a violent place and then you let them loose like there was this one horrific story about this guy from Iraq that came over some some refugee and he raped some boy in Germany and his Response where they asked him why he did is like I hadn't seen my wife in six months and I was having a sexual emergency Yeah,
01:40:33.000 so and wow, you know like what like there's things actually I don't think it was from Iraq I think it was from Afghanistan, but there's there's things that go on in other parts of the world that become I don't want to say the norm, but they do happen there,
01:40:49.000 or they don't happen here.
01:40:50.000 That's where I think it's important, and I feel like general people don't have the time, where it's important to be as educated as possible, because if we're basing things off of the way things are generally becoming, or it seems like more and more, yes.
01:41:03.000 But if you're basing stuff off of outliers, I think that's where things are crazy, where you hear someone that was here illegally They keep talking about the same story over and over.
01:41:15.000 It was like, it was someone here illegally, there was a murder, right? 1.00
01:41:17.000 And it's like the same story, and I want to see the bigger picture, because yes, that's fucking horrifying in a bubble. 0.96
01:41:23.000 But what's the big thing? 0.99
01:41:25.000 If it leans more towards, holy shit, this is scary, then yeah. 0.97
01:41:29.000 But if you base something off of, like with guns, right? 0.94
01:41:34.000 If you base something off of one specific shooting that is, like if you look at the body count, the guns involved specifically, if it's an outlier, If it's representative of a bigger problem, then you feel you go after the bigger problem if you actually want to have an effect that's not just superficial,
01:41:49.000 or that's not just a big stance.
01:41:51.000 Well, we all want to be safe.
01:41:53.000 And we all want our loved ones safe.
01:41:55.000 And so do they.
01:41:56.000 I mean, that's what I think is really important.
01:41:58.000 And when they don't anymore, when people don't want to be safe, or they don't want their loved ones safe, then we have to figure out why.
01:42:05.000 Like, what's going on that you're willing to strap your kid full of dynamite and have him walk into a mall and blow people up?
01:42:11.000 And now you think he's a holy martyr.
01:42:13.000 I remember watching some documentary on suicide bombings, and they were raising these children to be suicide bombings, and they had these pictures of these kids, these holy images of these children with suicide vests on, on the wall that had already committed suicide.
01:42:26.000 And there was a sign in Islamic that said, today's Actually, Islam is not a language.
01:42:33.000 I'm not talking about it.
01:42:34.000 I was like, go with it.
01:42:36.000 Yeah.
01:42:36.000 Well, in Arabic, excuse me.
01:42:38.000 But it said, today's children are tomorrow's holy martyrs.
01:42:42.000 And that was on the wall.
01:42:43.000 And they were interviewing these people and trying to wrap their head around this and make sense of it.
01:42:47.000 You know, when you've got situations like that, everyone should be scared.
01:42:51.000 Because then people embrace their ideology to the point where they're willing to let their own babies walk.
01:42:56.000 Blow themselves up.
01:42:57.000 So you got a real problem there.
01:42:59.000 And that is as much of a problem as any kind of cult, any kind of mind control, any kind of...
01:43:05.000 And if that's happening over here, yeah, yeah, yeah, that needs to be taken into consideration.
01:43:09.000 But how many people are doing that?
01:43:12.000 What is the percentage?
01:43:13.000 How many people aren't doing that?
01:43:14.000 How many people are...
01:43:16.000 Productive, kind, reasonable people that are stuck in a really shitty place, and isn't that supposed to be what America's about? 0.98
01:43:22.000 So you can't just say, there's a small percentage of people that are doing horrific shit, so now we can't let anybody that looks like them in. 0.99
01:43:29.000 Because that gets crazy, and that isolates us from the whole rest of the world, too. 0.92
01:43:34.000 It ain't easy, man.
01:43:35.000 And it's not an easy problem to solve. 0.98
01:43:37.000 And I'm certainly not the fucking guy to do it. 0.98
01:43:39.000 Right. 0.99
01:43:40.000 Ditto.
01:43:40.000 Yeah.
01:43:41.000 Because the argument automatically becomes, but what if my family?
01:43:44.000 Right.
01:43:44.000 And then how do you secure people?
01:43:46.000 How do you make things secure?
01:43:47.000 I don't know.
01:43:47.000 Good question.
01:43:48.000 Well, there's no such thing as safety.
01:43:50.000 I don't know.
01:43:50.000 There's no such thing as safety.
01:43:51.000 Ultimate safety, right?
01:43:52.000 But you can make things more safe.
01:43:53.000 You can make things somewhat safe.
01:43:55.000 But, I mean, it's a dark thing to think about.
01:43:58.000 But before there were even more of these shootings that happened...
01:44:02.000 You look at why do you have to blow up a plane or why do you have to crash a plane if you can just get the people in line, right?
01:44:09.000 If you go to a mall, there are people that are just...
01:44:12.000 There's soft targets everywhere.
01:44:14.000 No one's ever going to be fully safe unless it's under some crazy...
01:44:19.000 Crazy, crazy, like, Big Brother control.
01:44:21.000 And that's not safe.
01:44:22.000 And I don't want that.
01:44:22.000 I don't want that.
01:44:23.000 That's not safe either, because there'll be consequences for, you know, going against Big Brother. 0.95
01:44:27.000 So it's like, for me, when I talk about these things, it's just, it's a, we're fucked, but in what way are we going to be fucked situation? 0.93
01:44:34.000 And I know that can be dark. 0.98
01:44:36.000 I know, but it is dark.
01:44:39.000 It's disappointing.
01:44:40.000 There's no such thing as ultimate safety.
01:44:42.000 I understand the argument of gun-free zones create targets, but there are targets everywhere.
01:44:47.000 Well, here's the real question.
01:44:48.000 How do you make the rest of the world...
01:44:50.000 If you were some sort of a really benevolent person who was just looking to do the best...
01:45:02.000 Job of managing this world and making all the places that are in disarray and these horrific war zones and bringing them up.
01:45:11.000 How do you ever do that?
01:45:14.000 How do you ever even the world out?
01:45:16.000 Ever?
01:45:17.000 It's not possible?
01:45:17.000 We need aliens to come together.
01:45:19.000 That's the only time humanity works out is when we have a common enemy.
01:45:22.000 But the problem is we're always our own common enemy.
01:45:25.000 But is that inevitable?
01:45:27.000 I mean, at one point in time, people were way worse, right?
01:45:29.000 At one point in time, there was...
01:45:31.000 Like, one of the things that really freaked me out was when they started finding all these scraping marks on the inside of Neanderthal heads that indicated that people were eating the Neanderthal brains.
01:45:41.000 And I was like, oh, Jesus.
01:45:44.000 And then there was an article recently about cannibalism, about how frequent cannibalism occurred back in the day.
01:45:50.000 And it was, you know, I mean, obviously that's not going on anymore, right?
01:45:56.000 Okay?
01:45:56.000 Is that the bar?
01:45:57.000 Far less cannibalism than ever before. 1.00
01:46:00.000 I think if that's the bar, we're fucked. 0.98
01:46:01.000 We're like, we're not eating each other. 0.99
01:46:02.000 I mean, say what you will.
01:46:03.000 We're not eating each other.
01:46:05.000 Well, it used to be that you couldn't just show up in a new town, right?
01:46:09.000 You couldn't just pull your boat up into some dock somewhere and get out and do some tourist shopping.
01:46:17.000 Because if you pulled your boat up, that meant you were probably a bunch of rapists and murderers from some other place. 1.00
01:46:21.000 You're coming over with swords and bows and arrows and shooting everybody and killing them. 1.00
01:46:25.000 Taking all the gold. 1.00
01:46:26.000 Well, that's not the case anymore.
01:46:27.000 So things are much more reasonable in terms of foreign travel, in terms of international relations, things are much more reasonable.
01:46:34.000 You've got to think that if it continues to go in that direction...
01:46:38.000 We'll have a better world for our grandchildren and our great-grandchildren, but what steps have to be taken to make sure that the rest of the world's horrific conditions don't spill over to America?
01:46:52.000 Well, isn't one of the best ways to take those people out of those horrific conditions and introduce them to this beautiful, free concept, this concept of Self-government, this unique place where there isn't a caste system,
01:47:08.000 where you can, if you play your cards right and you're fortunate and you get the right breaks and put in the right amount of work, you literally can go from being a poor person to being a very wealthy person.
01:47:19.000 You can go from being We're good to go.
01:47:41.000 The idea of all of us coming together on a positive idea will bring us all together?
01:47:45.000 I 100% think it has to be a bad thing that unites us, right? 0.98
01:47:49.000 Meteor impact or some shit? 0.98
01:47:51.000 Meteor impact, fake that aliens are coming so we all have to come together, trick everyone. 0.99
01:47:55.000 Fake them?
01:47:56.000 Well, aliens will want to kill us in, like, the next ten years. 0.97
01:47:59.000 Right?
01:47:59.000 Rather than at some point in the eventual time.
01:48:01.000 I don't think the word ten years is not good.
01:48:03.000 Because people are like, alright, we'll deal with it in nine.
01:48:08.000 They just want to push it off. 1.00
01:48:10.000 Yeah, they just go fucking crazy. 1.00
01:48:11.000 The bottom line is, bro, when the aliens get here, they're gonna fucking kill us. 1.00
01:48:15.000 So just do all your raping while you can. 1.00
01:48:18.000 I think they're gonna be on my side. 1.00
01:48:19.000 They're gonna call you an alien apologist.
01:48:21.000 They'll be like, oh, he's an alien apologist.
01:48:23.000 He doesn't get Joe Rogan disconnected from the people.
01:48:26.000 Yeah, man. 0.99
01:48:27.000 He's up there in his fucking house with a TV and he doesn't know. 1.00
01:48:30.000 He doesn't give a shit about those aliens. 1.00
01:48:32.000 He said he did. 1.00
01:48:33.000 He's got his internet connection.
01:48:35.000 He gets to drive where he wants.
01:48:37.000 He's got his own car.
01:48:38.000 Who's jealous of the internet connection?
01:48:40.000 People in Africa.
01:48:42.000 Living in a grass hut.
01:48:44.000 Don't worry, Zuckerberg's fixing it.
01:48:45.000 Is he?
01:48:46.000 I don't know.
01:48:46.000 Supposedly, right?
01:48:47.000 Didn't one of those things blow up?
01:48:48.000 Him and Bill Gates.
01:48:48.000 It blew up, right?
01:48:49.000 They were spending a ton of money on a satellite.
01:48:52.000 It was one of the SpaceX ones that blew up.
01:48:54.000 Yeah, it was supposed to be...
01:48:55.000 Oh, I didn't see that.
01:48:55.000 The one big one that recently blew up was to provide satellite internet access to impoverished parts of Africa.
01:49:02.000 Yeah, man.
01:49:03.000 I don't know.
01:49:04.000 I think the more connected, it's a good thing.
01:49:07.000 But, yeah, it has to be a bad thing.
01:49:09.000 It has to be a bad thing that unites us of where we become the we or the us versus the them, the other. 0.92
01:49:16.000 But the problem is there's, whether it be nationalism or religion or fucking anything, there's so many things that within our own create an easy us versus them mentality. 0.95
01:49:27.000 And, I mean, I'm a personal believer in that eventually we're just going to kill each other. 0.99
01:49:32.000 Kill ourselves. 0.97
01:49:32.000 That's what you think? 0.97
01:49:33.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:49:34.000 Goddamn, Philly. 0.99
01:49:35.000 I think it's just going to happen. 0.99
01:49:36.000 I don't want it to happen.
01:49:37.000 I'm not like, let's hurry things up.
01:49:39.000 But it's safer now than it's ever been before.
01:49:41.000 Statistically speaking, today is the safest time ever to be alive.
01:49:45.000 Right.
01:49:45.000 I'm talking about on a grand scale.
01:49:47.000 But this is a grand scale.
01:49:48.000 When you're talking about statistically speaking, that's the grand scale.
01:49:51.000 I'm talking about the next big thing to happen, as far as whether it be all-out war, not the things that are happening in our streets right now. 0.98
01:49:58.000 Goddamn doom and gloomer. 0.99
01:49:59.000 Look at you. 1.00
01:50:01.000 I'm planning for 2024. It's gonna be make Earth great again.
01:50:04.000 That's gonna be mega.
01:50:07.000 How old are you?
01:50:09.000 31. So you were young when 9-11 happened?
01:50:12.000 Yes.
01:50:12.000 I was in my classroom.
01:50:13.000 They like wheeled in the TV. Oh, wow.
01:50:16.000 What grade?
01:50:17.000 Do you remember?
01:50:18.000 I want to say I was in middle...
01:50:20.000 No, I think it might have been my first year of high school.
01:50:23.000 I moved around.
01:50:24.000 I'm trying to think.
01:50:25.000 I'm having a hard time placing it.
01:50:26.000 But I remember I was in class.
01:50:28.000 From my memory, the problem with memory is I feel like you maybe slightly change it.
01:50:34.000 100%.
01:50:34.000 But from my understanding, or my memory, they wheeled the TV in.
01:50:39.000 It was after the first tower got hit.
01:50:41.000 And then I'm pretty sure we watched the second tower get hit live.
01:50:44.000 I think that's what happened.
01:50:46.000 Wow.
01:50:47.000 And that was just, and in my head, it was a mix of horror to then also them, because they cut to certain shots, because they're the shots that you remember of people running away from the debris, but then there was also shots of people just looking at it, and then some people just like, Walking at a steady pace before the second one hit and I was like wow like nothing for a second when I looked at the people that were there before the you saw like the people running in to help people I thought nothing can destroy us like that was that was kind of my mindset of this
01:51:17.000 horrible thing just happened and it was before the second one hit so it was like what's what's happening?
01:51:23.000 But, I mean, I think that's a good example, too.
01:51:25.000 I don't want that to ever happen again in a small or a big scale.
01:51:30.000 But do you remember how united everyone was?
01:51:33.000 Yeah, that's why I brought it up.
01:51:35.000 Yeah.
01:51:35.000 It was...
01:51:36.000 The problem is we somehow took that situation and then made everything horrible.
01:51:43.000 But...
01:51:44.000 But it was an us.
01:51:45.000 There was a united us.
01:51:47.000 It was American.
01:51:49.000 Well, it wasn't just a united us.
01:51:50.000 It was also the rest of the world was sympathetic to our plight.
01:51:53.000 And there was a headline in some paper in Paris that said, we're all Americans today.
01:52:01.000 That would never happen now.
01:52:03.000 Not in a million years.
01:52:04.000 If the same exact thing happened, they would be like, you deserve it.
01:52:08.000 Why are you in Iraq?
01:52:09.000 Why are you in Afghanistan?
01:52:11.000 It wouldn't be, we're all Americans.
01:52:13.000 Because back then, we had invaded Iraq. 0.88
01:52:16.000 We hadn't invaded Afghanistan.
01:52:18.000 And there was so much more sympathy just 16 years ago.
01:52:22.000 Well, even closer.
01:52:23.000 I mean, when Charlie Hebdo, right?
01:52:25.000 They got hit.
01:52:25.000 Yeah.
01:52:26.000 You know, Je suis Charlie.
01:52:27.000 Now when something happens, it's like, well, look at what's happening there.
01:52:31.000 Do we want more?
01:52:32.000 Do we want that here?
01:52:33.000 Right.
01:52:33.000 So there's definitely...
01:52:35.000 Like that death metal thing where they gunned down all those people at that concert.
01:52:37.000 Right.
01:52:38.000 Also in Paris.
01:52:39.000 Yeah.
01:52:39.000 The Lyon, France, the truck driver that drove over everybody.
01:52:44.000 Through the people.
01:52:44.000 Yeah.
01:52:45.000 Yeah.
01:52:45.000 And I mean, there's a lot less of we are, right?
01:52:49.000 It's more of look what's happening.
01:52:50.000 And it's more, it's definitely more fear-based rather than if we're just united and we stand against this.
01:52:55.000 Yeah.
01:52:55.000 There still is that.
01:52:56.000 It's just not as big.
01:52:57.000 Well, I was in New York right after September 11th.
01:53:00.000 It wasn't very long afterwards.
01:53:02.000 And I remember it was amazing how friendly everybody was.
01:53:05.000 It was just a different feel.
01:53:06.000 People were shook and their response...
01:53:10.000 In recovery to that was people were smarter and kinder.
01:53:14.000 They were smiling more.
01:53:15.000 It was a different feel.
01:53:17.000 There was more camaraderie and massive, massive respect to first responders.
01:53:22.000 Massive respect to police, fire department.
01:53:25.000 There was a different feeling in how people felt about them.
01:53:28.000 Instead of being the oppressors, they became the saviors.
01:53:31.000 Not firemen.
01:53:33.000 I mean, nobody ever thinks of the firemen as the oppressors. 1.00
01:53:35.000 The fucking firemen. 0.99
01:53:35.000 Well, there was a thing in the riots after the riots in L.A. where they were attacking firemen. 0.99
01:53:40.000 Really?
01:53:40.000 Yeah, it was horrible.
01:53:42.000 They were shooting at them.
01:53:42.000 It was a thing where people just decided that the man, whoever the man is, needed to go down, whether it was fire department or police.
01:53:51.000 They were shooting at cops.
01:53:53.000 That's insanity.
01:53:53.000 They were burning buildings down that had nothing to do with the riots.
01:53:57.000 I'm sure you saw there was a piece on these Korean business owners in Koreatown. 0.94
01:54:03.000 They were invaded during the riots because they're not the best proximity to where all the South Central shit was going down post-Rodney King.
01:54:11.000 And these people were on the rooftops just trying to defend their stores and trying to stop looters from taking away everything they earned and everything they worked for their whole lives.
01:54:21.000 You know, those moments when things get chaotic, they do open up the door for people to reconsider how fortunate we are when things aren't chaotic.
01:54:31.000 Right.
01:54:31.000 I think that's the very unfortunate thing.
01:54:34.000 We only open ourselves up after something horrible.
01:54:38.000 And because I think that we see horrible thing after horrible thing, We slowly get further and further away from being able to unite just because it's...
01:54:47.000 At least in our 24-7 news cycle, it seems like that's just the world we live in, right? 0.99
01:54:52.000 It's just like, there's scary shit, man. 1.00
01:54:53.000 Hopefully we can keep that away from us. 0.99
01:54:55.000 Well, and again, it goes back to what we were talking about really early on.
01:54:58.000 I just honestly think we're taking in too much data.
01:55:02.000 Like, your life and my life should really revolve around...
01:55:07.000 The people that we're in contact with, the people that we communicate with, and our immediate surroundings.
01:55:12.000 And our immediate surroundings, we both work in the same area, is really pleasant.
01:55:16.000 Yeah.
01:55:16.000 It's really fine.
01:55:17.000 And the folks we run into, for the most part, like 99.9% of them are very pleasant.
01:55:23.000 And hi, how you doing?
01:55:24.000 What's up?
01:55:24.000 How are you?
01:55:25.000 Everything's good, you know?
01:55:26.000 And that's really how we're supposed to be thinking about the world.
01:55:29.000 This is...
01:55:30.000 This is our world, but now our world is extended to include Pakistan and North Korea and what is happening here and what's happening there.
01:55:39.000 Did you hear that King John Un's half-brother was killed with some toxic paint or something? 1.00
01:55:45.000 Like, fuck, man. 1.00
01:55:46.000 Why do I have to think about that guy? 1.00
01:55:47.000 I don't know that guy.
01:55:48.000 There's too many people!
01:55:49.000 There's too much!
01:55:50.000 And that can really give you this really bizarre, twisted sense of the state of the world.
01:55:56.000 If you just go out now and look at... 0.98
01:55:59.000 Bill Hicks used to have a joke about that, about watching CNN, and it was all about because Jane Fonda wouldn't fuck Ted Turner. 0.97
01:56:05.000 This was back when... 0.99
01:56:07.000 That you'd go outside and, you know, they'd be like, today on the news, AIDS, death, murder, pit bulls, guns, stabbings, and you go outside, you hear birds chirping, where the fuck's all this happening?
01:56:20.000 I forget what I was listening to, but it was a comparison to when people are thinking about the world, when they're thinking about the country, all of that is usually far, far different when they talk about their local community.
01:56:31.000 Because in our local community, we're like, oh, things are...
01:56:33.000 A lot of people think things are good. 0.99
01:56:35.000 Obviously, there are places where bad shit's happening. 0.98
01:56:36.000 But when we look at our own community, we're like, that's great. 0.99
01:56:39.000 And I do think that's a place where we start, right?
01:56:42.000 Make the local good and try and expand from there.
01:56:46.000 Because, yeah, when you look out and you look at specifically like Chicago...
01:56:52.000 As the state of the United States.
01:56:54.000 That's not what it is.
01:56:55.000 It's scary there.
01:56:57.000 Southside.
01:56:58.000 Most of Chicago is actually really nice.
01:57:00.000 Yeah, right.
01:57:01.000 Well, so yeah, once again, you have to look at specific places.
01:57:03.000 But when Donald Trump's talking about Chicago, this is stuff that I've been talking on my show.
01:57:10.000 Two years.
01:57:11.000 I had segments almost every Monday where I was like, this is how many people died in Chicago.
01:57:16.000 And it's crazy numbers.
01:57:18.000 But then you look close and you're just like, oh, things are good.
01:57:22.000 And I think that's where everyone needs to start.
01:57:23.000 Start locally and then kind of expand from there.
01:57:26.000 To get that local to somehow or another make its way into Chicago.
01:57:30.000 Yeah, because, I mean, most people, you have your small little group.
01:57:34.000 You're in a great position where you get to talk to hundreds of thousands, millions of people.
01:57:38.000 Same for me.
01:57:40.000 And we're in this exceptional, amazing position that I feel like I'm so scared to do the wrong thing.
01:57:48.000 How are you scared to do the wrong thing?
01:57:49.000 I don't want to mislead people.
01:57:50.000 That's what I mean.
01:57:51.000 In the sense of when I do my show, I have a whole team for full production and stuff like that.
01:57:56.000 But I'm researching it because it's my name on the line.
01:57:59.000 And I want to...
01:58:01.000 Really, in the past year and a half, just focusing, like, how do we get to the truth?
01:58:04.000 I'm not infallible.
01:58:05.000 There are going to be mistakes and stuff along the way.
01:58:07.000 But how can I try and...
01:58:09.000 I get 10 minutes to 20 minutes of someone's life, right?
01:58:13.000 And that's huge, especially with how much information people are getting. 0.99
01:58:16.000 And people hold on to shit that they see in a fucking two-second glimmer of a tweet. 0.98
01:58:20.000 So I want to make sure that I'm trying in that way to make my community, which happens to be a little larger than your Everyday Joe, good. 0.99
01:58:28.000 Like a good, smart place where we don't have to agree, but we're working on it together.
01:58:33.000 Well, that's great.
01:58:33.000 You're doing the right thing, man.
01:58:35.000 It's very admirable.
01:58:37.000 You know, I think...
01:58:39.000 We're talking about with Chicago and Syria and all these other things is just where you're dealing with the data from 7 billion people and that is Unfathomable.
01:58:48.000 It's impossible.
01:58:49.000 Yeah, it's impossible to handle and so that's why Take a look then look like you're saying around you and start from there.
01:58:55.000 Yeah, because otherwise you're gonna at some point just be completely wrong And I think it's probably a good idea for all of us, you and I included, to filter out some of the data that we're taking in.
01:59:05.000 It's just too much.
01:59:06.000 At this point in time, you can just be inundated with horrific news all day long if you so choose to.
01:59:12.000 Oh, yeah.
01:59:13.000 There are those rabbit holes.
01:59:14.000 Sometimes it's just there. 1.00
01:59:16.000 Alex Jones until your fucking head explodes. 1.00
01:59:18.000 I mean, you really could. 1.00
01:59:19.000 You can go down to all the dark Pizzagate rabbit holes until you can't take it anymore.
01:59:23.000 It's just...
01:59:23.000 You can find the worst parts of the world, the worst pockets of terrorism, the worst...
01:59:28.000 And you just absorb yourself in that data, and then you will be convinced that's the life.
01:59:33.000 That is the world.
01:59:34.000 But I think that's why people have to fight a good fight, right?
01:59:37.000 Not to be like, oh, we're heroes.
01:59:39.000 But I think that's why you have to have people that throw themselves out there that are going to get steamrolled by people that oppose on that specific day that viewpoint.
01:59:47.000 But you have to have those people.
01:59:48.000 Because otherwise, just the people that have that time, that want to see the world just fucking implode, right?
01:59:55.000 There are a lot of people that have that time.
01:59:58.000 So we have to, I think, be dedicated to have a conversation.
02:00:01.000 This is the last thing I want to ask you about, and this might come off a scene silly, but I think there might be some validity to it.
02:00:07.000 Do you think that this ability that you have, and that I have and all the people that come on this podcast or any podcast have, this new ability to express ideas and communicate, do you think that that is having an effect on On the way people view the world.
02:00:25.000 And that this open form of communication where, you know, you and I with...
02:00:30.000 I've never been trained in the media.
02:00:32.000 Have you?
02:00:33.000 No.
02:00:33.000 Have you been trained?
02:00:34.000 Has anybody told you how to do this?
02:00:35.000 No.
02:00:36.000 Right?
02:00:36.000 No.
02:00:36.000 But you and I, two normal people...
02:00:39.000 We can communicate to millions of people having this conversation and then millions of people will talk to their friends and express their own opinions, whether they agree, disagree or maybe have some other things to add to it.
02:00:54.000 They express that to their friends at work and their friends, you know.
02:00:58.000 At home.
02:00:59.000 And these dialogues take on a life of their own.
02:01:03.000 And these ideas that we're expressing and that other people are expressing at work or at play, they're more potent now and they spread faster now than they ever have before.
02:01:15.000 And I think there's an evolution of ideas.
02:01:18.000 It's taking place now.
02:01:19.000 Good and bad. 1.00
02:01:20.000 That's where all the white privilege shit comes from and all the gender politics and all the weirdness. 1.00
02:01:27.000 All of it comes from these turbocharged ideas, these nuclear ideas now, where ideas spread to the point where words become taboo and use the wrong words. 0.98
02:01:39.000 Gender pronoun when you're talking about a trans person and you're the worst human ever and all these new things that are existing and I think these new things are because Dialogue and information is just it has a different weight to it now. 1.00
02:01:54.000 It's almost like the gravity is shifted on it.
02:01:56.000 I think a lot of the reason why We have our positions and other people do is because it is that it is a it is a dialogue It is in a weird way an extended friend group, right?
02:02:08.000 So it's friends talking about things.
02:02:10.000 That's where people have I think the the best conversations as far as where we grow right if if I mean, they constantly come out with numbers of, you know, the trust in media, right?
02:02:20.000 Of just, like, they have an agenda, but if it's just people talking, right?
02:02:24.000 Just guys talking, that you don't feel like Joe's got this agenda that he wants to just shove down everyone's throat.
02:02:31.000 There are gonna be people that say that, but I think that's good. 1.00
02:02:34.000 It is... 0.99
02:02:35.000 There's always gonna be shit that then becomes this, like... 0.99
02:02:41.000 Yeah. 0.95
02:02:54.000 And that opinion's gonna shift, too, and move around. 0.96
02:02:56.000 I hope it does, because when people look back and they're like, this person flip-flopped, that person fucking grew. 0.93
02:03:01.000 Hopefully. 0.94
02:03:01.000 I mean, it could be completely calculated. 0.94
02:03:03.000 I'm pandering.
02:03:03.000 Or got new data, or changed who they are.
02:03:06.000 I mean, you know, that flip-flopping thing is so silly.
02:03:09.000 Yeah, it's like, Oh, this person has a different...
02:03:11.000 Yes, hopefully.
02:03:11.000 Hopefully you can have a different opinion, that you're not locked into something.
02:03:15.000 And so I think that everyone needs to focus on it.
02:03:18.000 With the not ever going to school for this sort of thing, I've never taken a journalism class.
02:03:24.000 I've talked about it in a video.
02:03:26.000 I focus on what I call the liquor method.
02:03:28.000 I listen, I question, I research, and I refute.
02:03:32.000 So I take in as many sources as I can, whether it be...
02:03:37.000 The Huffington Post and CNN or Fox News, Breitbart, Donald, anything.
02:03:42.000 I want to see where everyone's coming from, right?
02:03:43.000 Then I start throwing out questions.
02:03:45.000 You know, where does this come from?
02:03:47.000 What do they say?
02:03:49.000 Go down that rapid hole with research and then I'm armed with information. 0.73
02:03:52.000 That's why I think whether you have a Milo or you have fucking anybody, let people talk so you can learn, because information is ammo. 0.91
02:03:59.000 Right?
02:03:59.000 Information is something that you can take in, understand, but if it's a flawed argument, even if it's opinion-based, if it's a flawed argument, then you can use it.
02:04:08.000 And maybe it's not a flawed argument and you fucking learned something.
02:04:12.000 Right? 0.97
02:04:12.000 Maybe you thought you were right, you were wrong. 0.97
02:04:14.000 That's cool.
02:04:15.000 That's fine.
02:04:17.000 Flip-flop! 0.93
02:04:18.000 Have a different opinion!
02:04:19.000 So I'm for it.
02:04:21.000 All day.
02:04:21.000 I think you gotta grow.
02:04:23.000 I think there are people that wake up in the morning and wanna fucking burn the world, but I refuse to believe that that's the majority. 0.98
02:04:30.000 And I'm gonna start trying to deal with people I think that are sensible, that at the very least think they're sensible, weed out the ones that really aren't, ones tested, and just fucking go. 0.98
02:04:40.000 I'm 100% with you. 0.73
02:04:41.000 And I really like what you're doing because I think you're a very reasonable guy.
02:04:45.000 Thank you.
02:04:45.000 I think you're very well thought out, and when you consider things like the most recent Milo video, you're being very fair, and I think the world needs more of that.
02:04:54.000 Reasonable and fair.
02:04:56.000 Thank you, Philip.
02:04:57.000 Thank you, sir.
02:04:58.000 Thank you for being here.
02:04:59.000 Thank you for being reasonable and fair. 1.00
02:05:01.000 That's it for the week, you motherfuckers! 1.00
02:05:04.000 Thanks for tuning in. 1.00
02:05:05.000 Love you guys.
02:05:06.000 See you next week.
02:05:07.000 Bye!
02:05:08.000 Woo! 0.99
02:05:09.000 That's fun.
02:05:11.000 Yeah, thanks, man.
02:05:12.000 That's fun.