The Joe Rogan Experience - March 10, 2017


Joe Rogan Experience #929 - Dan Peña

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On this week's episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, our good friend and former co-worker, Joe Garth Brooks. We talk about how to get laid, how to not be a little weenie anymore, and what it takes to be a man. We also talk about weed, and how to deal with a woman who thinks you're a slut in front of a woman you don't know. And of course, we finish the episode with a story about the time Garth's dad told him he was a "slut dad" to his own daughter. Enjoy, and spread the word to your friends about this podcast! Music by Zapsplat and tyops. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music and production by PSOVOD and the Vigilante Crew. All rights reserved. Used by permission. This episode was produced and edited by Riley Bray. We do not own the rights to either of these songs, credit goes to original artists. The music used in this episode was written, produced, and produced by our patrons. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave us a review and/or a rating and review in the comments section below. Thank you for any amount you'd like us to use the music you've listened to in the next episode, we'd really appreciate it. It's a lot, we really appreciate the feedback and support the work you've all sent in! - Thank you. - we really do appreciate the support us. We really appreciate all the support we've gotten so far, it really means a lot of people out there. Thank you so much, it's really helps us out there :) - thank you, really really appreciates it greatly. XOXO - The Crew at The Game. -- - Jamie, Jamie, Alyssa, A.J. & the Crew -- Thank you, Jack, Sarah, D.A. & Sarah, E.M. (A.J., J. (Sally) and Sarah, B. (M.S. ( ) ( ) ( ) & K. (J. .J. (C. (R.J.) & Sarah) (SALLY) - J.E. (D. (AJ) (S. )

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00:00:00.000 Really?
00:00:00.000 California.
00:00:01.000 I don't even know where Eureka, California is.
00:00:02.000 It's about 200 miles north of San Francisco.
00:00:05.000 Oh.
00:00:06.000 In the middle of weed country.
00:00:08.000 The whole state's weed country now.
00:00:10.000 Well, I'm going to look at a weed deal.
00:00:13.000 Can I just tell you that you are impeccably dressed in a very unique and original way.
00:00:18.000 Thank you.
00:00:19.000 I mean, you're dressed really well, but I've never seen a guy dressed as well as you with such unusual colors and the tie and the shirt.
00:00:26.000 My wife dresses me.
00:00:27.000 Does she?
00:00:28.000 Yeah.
00:00:28.000 She's trying to keep you from getting laid.
00:00:30.000 That's what it is.
00:00:30.000 Well, Sally, did you hear that?
00:00:33.000 She's making you just look real flamboyant where people just don't know what to think.
00:00:37.000 Yeah.
00:00:37.000 I like the whole thing.
00:00:38.000 The scarf?
00:00:39.000 Thank you.
00:00:39.000 You got in the pocket?
00:00:40.000 Yeah, this is how I dress though.
00:00:41.000 Can you pull this right up to you?
00:00:43.000 Sure.
00:00:43.000 Sorry, these things are very directional.
00:00:45.000 This is how I dress.
00:00:46.000 All the time?
00:00:47.000 Yeah.
00:00:48.000 I get it.
00:00:48.000 Well, I mean, at the house, boxer shorts and a t-shirt.
00:00:53.000 That's it?
00:00:53.000 Yeah, in the house.
00:00:55.000 And then outside?
00:00:56.000 Outside, I'm normally dressed like this.
00:00:58.000 Or in my uniform, my three-piece suit.
00:01:01.000 Yesterday I gave a talk in Beverly Hills to some kids and I was in my three-piece suit.
00:01:05.000 What did you give a talk about?
00:01:06.000 One of my mentees is a guy named Jason Capital.
00:01:10.000 He doesn't say it this way, but he is the preeminent expert on how to get laid.
00:01:15.000 And he's got not quite as many followers as you do, but a million or a million and a half.
00:01:22.000 Really?
00:01:22.000 And it's just teaching people how to get laid?
00:01:24.000 No, no, no.
00:01:24.000 He doesn't build self-esteem.
00:01:26.000 Oh.
00:01:27.000 But at the end of the day, all these little weenies want to get laid. 1.00
00:01:31.000 So he teaches him how to not be a little weenie anymore.
00:01:34.000 Correct.
00:01:34.000 Correct.
00:01:35.000 How to man up or something.
00:01:36.000 Yeah, and so he asked me if I'd talk to his...
00:01:39.000 He's got different programs, you know, they sell, upsell, upsell, upsell.
00:01:42.000 Right.
00:01:43.000 His premier group I talked to yesterday says about 60, 70 guys who obviously must pay the most money to a monthly.
00:01:49.000 Yeah.
00:01:50.000 But he's got 40,000 people that pay him between 80 bucks and 3,000 a month.
00:01:55.000 What?!
00:01:56.000 Yeah.
00:01:56.000 That's insane!
00:01:57.000 Fucking right, I know. 0.98
00:01:59.000 And he's just teaching him how to be a man? 1.00
00:02:00.000 Crap. 1.00
00:02:01.000 Well, how did he learn how to be a man? 1.00
00:02:02.000 How did I? How did he?
00:02:03.000 Oh, his dad beat the fuck out of him, just like my dad beat me. 0.99
00:02:07.000 Oh, well, that's what we need more, right? 0.92
00:02:09.000 And Jason Capital's not his name.
00:02:11.000 He's got a Polish name.
00:02:13.000 He's from Detroit.
00:02:15.000 Oh.
00:02:15.000 But that's a big secret, that name.
00:02:17.000 Uh-oh.
00:02:17.000 But he's Jason Capital.
00:02:18.000 And he's good-looking.
00:02:19.000 He's a really good-looking guy.
00:02:20.000 Well, that helps if you want to get laid. 1.00
00:02:22.000 Yeah, but if you want to teach people how to get laid, that helps. 0.86
00:02:25.000 Well, you can't really teach that, though.
00:02:27.000 Like, you can't teach being a good-looking guy.
00:02:29.000 Well, no. 0.99
00:02:30.000 But I told the kids, when I was their age, and I was single, and pre-AIDS, I got more ass than a toilet seat at a bus station. 0.99
00:02:40.000 That's a lot. 0.99
00:02:40.000 Yeah, but I did. 0.99
00:02:42.000 And last night, I had dinner with a buddy of mine, who unfortunately, he's got Agent Orange now.
00:02:48.000 He's got Agent Orange?
00:02:49.000 Yeah, he's a war hero, Marine War hero from Vietnam.
00:02:52.000 And he was one of the guys that I used to run around with. 0.98
00:02:55.000 And I brought back some of the memories, and his daughter's going, you mean you were a slut dad? 1.00
00:03:01.000 Whoa. 1.00
00:03:02.000 You shouldn't talk like that in front of the young lady.
00:03:03.000 Yeah, and then I was sorry I brought up the subject.
00:03:05.000 Yeah, you can't do that in front of certain gals, especially today. 1.00
00:03:08.000 Yeah.
00:03:09.000 Man horn, it's not appreciated anymore.
00:03:10.000 No, no, no.
00:03:12.000 So this guy's, I can't believe people are paying $3,000 a month.
00:03:16.000 What could he possibly be giving him for $3,000 a month?
00:03:18.000 Well, content of some sort, I've never looked at it, so I can't really tell you.
00:03:23.000 Content.
00:03:24.000 Yeah, I mean, content's the name of the game.
00:03:26.000 Jamie, I need a mug, buddy.
00:03:27.000 Oh, sure.
00:03:29.000 Content is the name of the game, but $3,000 seems like you'd have to come to your house and give you back rubs. 0.99
00:03:33.000 I mean, that's a lot of fucking money, man. 0.98
00:03:36.000 That's like a mortgage. 1.00
00:03:37.000 That's crazy.
00:03:37.000 $3,000 a month.
00:03:39.000 $80 a month, I can understand.
00:03:42.000 Well, even that's a lot.
00:03:43.000 What has he given you?
00:03:44.000 I mean, Netflix is $9.
00:03:46.000 You can watch documentaries until your ears bleed.
00:03:49.000 Yeah, I've only turned my Netflix on a couple of times.
00:03:54.000 It's interesting.
00:03:55.000 But yeah, so I was there, gave a talk.
00:03:57.000 It ran over.
00:03:58.000 I talked two and a half hours.
00:03:59.000 And then I went out to Valencia to see my buddy, the Marine guy, for dinner.
00:04:05.000 And it took three and a half hours to get to Valencia from Beverly Hills.
00:04:09.000 Yeah, it's a ridiculous piece of traffic we have out here.
00:04:11.000 A set of, a scene of traffic.
00:04:15.000 It's way worse than it was when I first moved here in 94, and I gotta wonder what it's gonna be like 20 years from now.
00:04:21.000 It's gonna be insane.
00:04:22.000 It's gonna be...
00:04:23.000 Well, then hopefully they'll have hover cars that dodge each other.
00:04:26.000 Well, we were talking about that yesterday.
00:04:28.000 We watched some clips from Blade Runner, that movie Blade Runner.
00:04:31.000 Oh, great flick.
00:04:32.000 That was supposed to be 2019. That's only supposed to be two years from now.
00:04:36.000 Isn't that crazy?
00:04:37.000 I didn't realize that.
00:04:38.000 Harrison Ford.
00:04:39.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:04:40.000 Daryl Hannah, Rutger Hauer.
00:04:43.000 Great movie.
00:04:44.000 One of my favorite all-time sci-fi movies.
00:04:46.000 But hard to believe that that was supposed to be just a couple years from now.
00:04:50.000 People really overestimated the amount of technology we'd have by then.
00:04:54.000 Well, I mean, they overestimated that, but in some things they underestimated.
00:05:00.000 Like the Internet, yeah.
00:05:01.000 Correct.
00:05:01.000 I mean, when I first said 30 years ago, the two things to get involved in were healthcare and telecommunications, which morphed into the Internet, I had no idea what the Internet was going to be.
00:05:12.000 You know, people measure returns on their investment and return on the minute.
00:05:17.000 Not return on the hour or the month or return on capital because things can change, you know, in a few seconds.
00:05:25.000 Well, how do you feel about that?
00:05:26.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but how do you feel about that?
00:05:28.000 Of a guy that's been an investor for as long as you've been, how do you feel about this new thing where they're using computers and algorithms to buy and trade, like literally at the speed of sound?
00:05:40.000 They're just click, click, click, going back and forth depending on the trends.
00:05:43.000 They're paying money to get a server that's as close as possible to the exchange.
00:05:49.000 They're literally buying and selling in milliseconds.
00:05:52.000 They're a millionth of a second ahead of everybody else because they're closer to the exchange.
00:05:56.000 I came up the old way.
00:05:58.000 I appreciate the progress, but I don't like it because most people don't understand it.
00:06:04.000 Like I was tweeting this morning, gold's down.
00:06:08.000 Oil broke $48 a barrel or $49 a barrel.
00:06:12.000 And how has your 401k improved?
00:06:15.000 What are your gurus telling you to do now?
00:06:17.000 The market's up, depending on how you want to measure, 20-25% since Trump got elected on the 8th of November.
00:06:24.000 And hardly anybody's benefited.
00:06:26.000 The guys that have benefited are the guys that drive the indices.
00:06:28.000 He's created $3 trillion in market cap.
00:06:33.000 On just the New York Stock Exchange, but most people haven't benefited because 70 to 90%, depending on how you want to count or calculate, of that money is big money.
00:06:45.000 Rockefeller, Pena, Trump, etc.
00:06:48.000 And so the average guy, the average Joe, didn't benefit.
00:06:53.000 I ask anybody listening, check your 401k or your pension plan.
00:06:57.000 Tell me how much it's up since November 8th.
00:07:00.000 Most people say nothing.
00:07:02.000 So, part of that is just what you're alluding to, the algorithms, because it's the fast big money that's making all the big money.
00:07:09.000 Although, hedge funds have fallen out of favor the last couple years, because their returns haven't been the same as even the indices.
00:07:15.000 So, you're feeling...
00:07:17.000 How do you feel about the things that Trump is doing right now, and the way he's...
00:07:22.000 You know, he's bringing on all these guys that have worked for these major corporations like Exxon.
00:07:28.000 They're doing that whole thing that he announced the other day of creating 45,000 jobs in the Gulf Coast.
00:07:34.000 And if you look at it, there was a thing on the New York Times today, I think, that was talking about, maybe it was Time Magazine, was talking about he's created 239,000 jobs since he's been in office.
00:07:46.000 Which is, what is it, a couple of months?
00:07:48.000 Not that long.
00:07:49.000 So are you, from a business standpoint, forget about like socially, but from a business standpoint?
00:07:53.000 Let me make a disclaimer first.
00:07:54.000 I know Trump.
00:07:55.000 Okay.
00:07:56.000 And I knew him from that late 80s and the early 90s because one of my partners and one of my mentors was Governor Hugh Carey, the former governor of New York.
00:08:03.000 So because of his New York relationship and also one of my ex-business partners was Mayor Wagner, the former mayor of New York.
00:08:10.000 So I knew Trump then.
00:08:12.000 But I haven't talked to him in over 20 years.
00:08:15.000 But getting back to your original question, I believe that there's a reason why he's meeting with all the CEOs of all these major industries because nobody else has ever done it.
00:08:28.000 I believe, and as I endorsed him, I was one of the early endorsers of Trump.
00:08:32.000 And I said that if he's serious, he'll win.
00:08:39.000 He knows how to win.
00:08:40.000 He doesn't know how to lose. 1.00
00:08:41.000 If he's serious, he's going to rock the fucking planet. 0.99
00:08:44.000 Not just the U.S., but the world. 0.99
00:08:46.000 And the financial models are changing in Europe, not just because of Brexit.
00:08:52.000 The financial models are changing in Russia.
00:08:54.000 The financial models are changing in China because they've got a guy, I got an alpha male in office that is surrounding himself with alpha males.
00:09:03.000 It's no coincidence that 60% of his staff are ex-military. 0.93
00:09:07.000 I mean, the press secretary is a goddamn lieutenant commander of the Navy, not counting all the four-star generals that he's got. 0.95
00:09:15.000 So I don't agree with everything he says. 0.97
00:09:18.000 I don't agree with everything he tweets.
00:09:20.000 I wouldn't tweet as much as he does.
00:09:23.000 But I do agree that the country needed change, financial change, and he's going to bring it.
00:09:26.000 Now, whether he gets elected a second term or not, I don't know.
00:09:29.000 But I do believe, and I've said, Joe, that November the 8th was the beginning of the greatest transformation of wealth The planet has ever fucking seen since World War II. How so?
00:09:40.000 Because, well, I mean, just look, $3 trillion so far in stock market.
00:09:44.000 I believe it's going to be $100 trillion he's going to add to the market before he leaves office. 0.97
00:09:49.000 Please explain to a dummy like me. 0.54
00:09:50.000 How does that work? 0.98
00:09:51.000 You're not a dummy, but anyway.
00:09:51.000 How does that happen?
00:09:52.000 Okay.
00:09:52.000 Okay.
00:09:54.000 Caterpillar, even though they got in some trouble for taxes, they got raided here a couple days ago.
00:09:59.000 Caterpillar, they make tractors.
00:10:02.000 The infrastructure is shot in this country.
00:10:05.000 The bridges are all 40, 50, 60 years past their prime.
00:10:09.000 I didn't know a bridge could go past its prime.
00:10:11.000 The roads are 50, 60, 70 years past their prime.
00:10:15.000 The infrastructure for pipelines are past their prime.
00:10:18.000 So he's going to rebuild all this.
00:10:21.000 He's going to spend, supposedly, $3 trillion Which is not a coincidence because he's added $3 trillion to the stock market.
00:10:29.000 But he's going to add infrastructure.
00:10:30.000 So all the stocks like Caterpillar, AT&T, Boeing, etc., have gone up 15%, 20%, 25%, 30% since he got elected because the big money, the smart money, knows that those companies are going to get all the contracts.
00:10:45.000 The real no-brainer is aerospace.
00:10:48.000 Not just because he cut the cost of Air Force One down 700 million or whatever he did, but because he's going to bring the United States military back to what it was under Reagan 30 years ago.
00:11:01.000 And being a vet myself, I believe a strong country. 0.97
00:11:05.000 I think we get involved in too much shit outside the country. 0.99
00:11:07.000 Okay. 0.99
00:11:08.000 But I mean, a strong country, then nobody's gonna, you know, screw with us.
00:11:11.000 He's gonna bring back jobs.
00:11:14.000 I believe he will build a wall.
00:11:15.000 And my mother and grandmother swam across the Rio Grande River as illegal aliens in 1924-25.
00:11:23.000 My mother, God rest her soul, we were just out at the cemetery a couple days ago, wasn't a naturalized citizen until she was in her early 30s. 0.99
00:11:32.000 But I figured out a way to pay for the wall, and yours is the first show I'm going to say it on.
00:11:38.000 Okay.
00:11:39.000 They arrested Guzman, the great drug trafficker.
00:11:42.000 They also confiscated $39 billion from him.
00:11:47.000 Did they really?
00:11:48.000 He had $39 billion?
00:11:50.000 Whoa.
00:11:51.000 Okay.
00:11:52.000 39. It's better than podcasts.
00:11:54.000 I mean...
00:11:55.000 Yeah.
00:11:55.000 Okay.
00:11:56.000 So why not pay for the wall with his money?
00:11:58.000 Yeah, that's probably a good idea. 0.98
00:11:59.000 But do you think that a wall is feasible and it's a good idea to have this big fucking... 0.97
00:12:05.000 I know it's feasible, but I'm a guy that I would rather pull the trigger And see if it works. 0.98
00:12:11.000 Then not do anything. 0.98
00:12:13.000 The biggest difference between most of the kids that are out there trying to be successful like yourself and some of the other people you've interviewed here is they spreadsheet it to death, they read books, they listen to podcasts, and they never do a fucking thing. 0.89
00:12:25.000 I've had kids come to my seminar that have read 700 books On personal development. 0.93
00:12:32.000 Yeah.
00:12:32.000 I didn't know there was 700 books on personal development.
00:12:35.000 Okay?
00:12:36.000 But they've never pulled the trigger.
00:12:37.000 Paralysis by analysis.
00:12:39.000 Correct.
00:12:39.000 Yes, sir.
00:12:39.000 Yeah, that can definitely happen.
00:12:41.000 Yeah.
00:12:41.000 That can definitely happen.
00:12:41.000 And like the kids yesterday, they'd all read books, and I don't even know what the charm books are.
00:12:47.000 I have no idea.
00:12:49.000 There's actually a program called The Art of Charm.
00:12:51.000 Which is the same thing, how to get laid.
00:12:53.000 That's not what they call it, but it's a deal.
00:12:55.000 It is.
00:12:55.000 Exactly what it is, right?
00:12:56.000 Yeah.
00:12:57.000 I've looked at it, and I've actually been interviewed on the kids' show.
00:13:00.000 That seems to me like saying something like, how to get famous.
00:13:04.000 Instead of just get really good at something, and you get famous.
00:13:07.000 Like, how to get laid. 1.00
00:13:08.000 Well, just be an excellent person, and people want to fuck you. 1.00
00:13:11.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:13:12.000 That's what I think.
00:13:13.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I proved that for a lot of years.
00:13:17.000 Did you?
00:13:17.000 Yeah, I did.
00:13:17.000 You rascal.
00:13:18.000 Look at you. 0.99
00:13:18.000 But, I mean, pre-AIDS. Pre-AIDS. Yeah, that's when you slowed down. 0.99
00:13:22.000 Well, no, I got married.
00:13:23.000 Take it down a notch.
00:13:24.000 I got married.
00:13:26.000 I got married.
00:13:27.000 Yeah, everybody was scared.
00:13:28.000 People don't know today, kids aren't scared of AIDS anymore, but back in the 80s when Magic Johnson got AIDS, I will never forget where I was, in my car, when he got HIV rather, when they announced it on the radio.
00:13:37.000 I was driving in my car, I was like, oh my god.
00:13:39.000 It was like a scene in a zombie movie where you thought this was the beginning, this was the first one, and then eventually it was going to spread across the entire country and everyone you knew was going to be dead.
00:13:47.000 Yeah, we were really worried.
00:13:48.000 Yeah.
00:13:48.000 We were really worried.
00:13:49.000 Were you single then?
00:13:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:13:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:13:52.000 I think I was 20. Were you a stand-up comic then?
00:13:55.000 Yeah.
00:13:56.000 It was 21, I think.
00:13:57.000 I think I just started doing stand-up.
00:13:59.000 Because I know that in my research, one of the things I saw was when...
00:14:03.000 I don't know if you were a teenager when you were in a competition and you knocked a guy cold in the first 10 seconds or two minutes or one minute.
00:14:11.000 It's on the internet, the competition you were in.
00:14:14.000 I think you were still a teenager, maybe.
00:14:15.000 I don't know.
00:14:15.000 Probably.
00:14:16.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:17.000 Taekwondo tournament.
00:14:17.000 Yeah, I fought a lot of that stuff.
00:14:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:14:22.000 But, I mean, you practice a lot to get good.
00:14:24.000 Oh, yeah.
00:14:25.000 Yeah, you have to.
00:14:25.000 It doesn't happen.
00:14:27.000 Well, yeah, you have to actually do it, too.
00:14:29.000 It's exactly what you're talking about.
00:14:31.000 You can read theory all you want, but until you get...
00:14:33.000 Theory is one thing, and thoughts are another thing, but actions are critical.
00:14:37.000 You have to...
00:14:37.000 Think about what happened during the actions and be prepared to fail.
00:14:41.000 Dalai Lama at his 80th birthday, which I was not invited to.
00:14:44.000 Maybe you will.
00:14:44.000 You weren't invited?
00:14:45.000 No, no, no.
00:14:46.000 The Dalai.
00:14:47.000 He made a little speech, and at the end of the speech, he's got a sentence.
00:14:50.000 Meditation is great.
00:14:52.000 Prayer is great.
00:14:53.000 A couple of other things are great.
00:14:55.000 But the best thing is taking action, action, action.
00:14:59.000 And so that's what I teach, is to take action.
00:15:07.000 I've had a lot of success, but I've had a lot of failures.
00:15:11.000 But nobody's interested in my failures.
00:15:13.000 They're only interested in the times I've got it across the goal line.
00:15:17.000 Well, Tom Segura is a huge fan of yours, and that's how I found out about you.
00:15:20.000 He's a good kid.
00:15:21.000 He thinks you're hilarious.
00:15:22.000 He thinks you're a ruthless approach to coaching people and advice. 0.95
00:15:26.000 It's pretty fucking funny. 0.59
00:15:28.000 Yeah, I mean, when I had lunch with him a few days ago, I think I told you on the phone, I was expecting he and his wife to be keeping me rolling in the aisles. 0.98
00:15:37.000 They were straight.
00:15:38.000 They were like preachers.
00:15:39.000 Look how they're dressed.
00:15:39.000 They're dressed in a suit.
00:15:41.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:41.000 They were like preachers.
00:15:42.000 Look at him.
00:15:43.000 He looks like Preacher Man.
00:15:44.000 He does.
00:15:45.000 He looks like he easily could be some sort of a pastor with his beautiful tie.
00:15:47.000 Look how slim he is too now.
00:15:49.000 Tom Segura kept the weight off.
00:15:50.000 Amazing.
00:15:51.000 That's great.
00:15:51.000 He's lost like 60 pounds or something crazy like that.
00:15:54.000 Really?
00:15:54.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:54.000 I'll be down.
00:15:55.000 He had a competition with his friend, Bert Kreischer, and they did it over two days on the show.
00:15:59.000 They weighed in twice in a row, and Tom won the weigh-in both days.
00:16:04.000 It was a big deal.
00:16:05.000 It was a big deal for him to...
00:16:06.000 I really think he lost more than 50 pounds, which is pretty impressive.
00:16:10.000 Well, a few years ago, 10, 12 years ago, I decided at 60 that I was going to become a power lifter.
00:16:17.000 Really?
00:16:18.000 I don't know what possessed me.
00:16:19.000 So I gained 65 pounds.
00:16:22.000 I took human growth hormones.
00:16:23.000 I did the whole nine yards.
00:16:25.000 And I got up to 280. Jesus Christ.
00:16:27.000 And then...
00:16:30.000 I was trying to get up to 300, but I couldn't get up to 300 pounds, weighing.
00:16:33.000 I tried like hell.
00:16:35.000 I mean, I ate everything.
00:16:36.000 I'd eat everything on this table.
00:16:37.000 Madeline, I didn't care.
00:16:39.000 And then I realized I also don't have the right bone structure, and so I decided that there were certain things I could only do so much weight.
00:16:48.000 So I was doing bench presses with my son.
00:16:51.000 At that time, he was 28, and we were doing sets.
00:16:55.000 I heard this rip in my bicep.
00:16:58.000 But I kept working out.
00:16:59.000 But what I had done is I ripped my long head bicep.
00:17:04.000 But one of the reasons they call me the Bionic Man, because I just had two full knee replacements in the last couple months.
00:17:10.000 I've got an artificial hip.
00:17:12.000 I have artificial shoulders.
00:17:14.000 I have a titanium collarbone.
00:17:17.000 And I don't have any long head bicep.
00:17:22.000 What's a long head bicep?
00:17:23.000 You have three bicep muscles.
00:17:24.000 It's the one that makes the hump.
00:17:26.000 You don't have that one?
00:17:28.000 No, I don't have that one.
00:17:29.000 So yours just goes flat when you flex?
00:17:31.000 Yeah, but now my muscles go flat anyway because I don't work out like I used to.
00:17:35.000 But you could have got that repaired.
00:17:37.000 You chose not to...
00:17:37.000 Oh, I know.
00:17:38.000 I got it repaired.
00:17:38.000 Not once, as they say in Texas.
00:17:40.000 Not once, not twice, but three times. 0.99
00:17:43.000 And I fucked him up all three times. 1.00
00:17:45.000 How'd you fuck it up? 1.00
00:17:45.000 You kept lifting? 1.00
00:17:46.000 Yep. 0.96
00:17:46.000 You're an animal. 0.96
00:17:47.000 Lifting too early. 1.00
00:17:47.000 Look at you, you maniac. 1.00
00:17:48.000 Too early. 1.00
00:17:49.000 At 60. Powerlifting.
00:17:50.000 At 60. Powerlifting.
00:17:51.000 How quick was too early?
00:17:54.000 Two months.
00:17:55.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:17:56.000 Yeah.
00:17:56.000 Yeah, you can't do that.
00:17:57.000 Well, like in my knees, they told me to wait a year before I had the second knee done.
00:18:01.000 I waited 10 weeks.
00:18:02.000 They were right and I was wrong.
00:18:04.000 Yeah, I would imagine they would be right and you would be wrong.
00:18:06.000 Yeah, so now when I get up from here, you'll see I get up gingerly.
00:18:10.000 So like when they build you an artificial knee, do they chop off the top of your knee and screw it in place?
00:18:17.000 Yeah, they chop the top and the bottom, the femur, and then they put, it's like a joint like this, and then it has these like spikes that go into the bone marrow and they cement them.
00:18:26.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:18:27.000 But what they didn't tell me is, see, your knee goes like this, moves both ways.
00:18:31.000 Well, my knees only go this way.
00:18:32.000 It goes up and down.
00:18:33.000 So I had to relearn how to put my socks on.
00:18:36.000 Because when you put your socks on, Your leg swings over.
00:18:40.000 You can't swing your leg over?
00:18:41.000 No, no.
00:18:42.000 So there's no sideways movement?
00:18:43.000 Correct.
00:18:44.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:18:45.000 That seems like it would be severely limiting, right?
00:18:47.000 Yeah, well, it is.
00:18:48.000 Well, I don't think I'll be...
00:18:51.000 In martial arts, you say, we're going to roll?
00:18:54.000 Yeah, you won't be rolling.
00:18:54.000 I won't be rolling.
00:18:55.000 Now, did you have ligament damage or meniscus damage?
00:18:59.000 Yeah, I had three surgeries on my right knee.
00:19:01.000 For all of the above.
00:19:03.000 And I had one surgery on my left knee.
00:19:04.000 Why'd they decide to replace the entire knee?
00:19:06.000 Because I had no cartilage left.
00:19:08.000 I was bone on bone from running tens of thousands of miles.
00:19:10.000 I went to a biohack a couple years ago.
00:19:14.000 I didn't even know what that meant.
00:19:16.000 Biohacking.
00:19:16.000 Yeah.
00:19:17.000 And I went to the biohacking and all the guys.
00:19:19.000 And I met a guy who really liked.
00:19:20.000 Decena was there.
00:19:21.000 A guy named Decena.
00:19:22.000 And all these things I've been doing since the 70s.
00:19:28.000 I ran 100 miles in piss blood, which used to be the benchmark if you were a man and a runner.
00:19:34.000 You run 100 miles and you piss blood.
00:19:36.000 That makes you a man?
00:19:37.000 Yeah, because then it did.
00:19:40.000 Only then can you breed.
00:19:42.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:19:43.000 And I've run marathons and I've run a lot of miles.
00:19:47.000 And my knees paid for it.
00:19:49.000 So I haven't really been able to run in 20 years.
00:19:51.000 Have you ever looked at stem cell therapy for it?
00:19:54.000 Yes, I have.
00:19:54.000 As a matter of fact, I'm going to Mexico in a couple of months.
00:19:58.000 I tried it 25 years ago when it first came out in Switzerland.
00:20:02.000 They're doing it here now.
00:20:03.000 You don't have to go to Mexico.
00:20:04.000 I didn't know they were doing it here.
00:20:06.000 Yeah, I'll talk to you after the show.
00:20:07.000 There's a great place in Vegas that they're doing it.
00:20:11.000 But they've been able to regenerate meniscus tissue, cartilage, all sorts of things like that.
00:20:15.000 It's a slow process, but it can be done now.
00:20:18.000 Okay.
00:20:19.000 But it seems like yours is already replaced anyway.
00:20:21.000 Mine are always gone.
00:20:22.000 Now, can you play tennis?
00:20:24.000 Can you move around?
00:20:24.000 Can you go side to side?
00:20:25.000 I can go this way.
00:20:26.000 I can't move this way.
00:20:27.000 Oh, wow.
00:20:29.000 I can't move that way.
00:20:30.000 You couldn't tell while you're walking.
00:20:31.000 No, no, I walk around.
00:20:33.000 You know, as Fernando Lamas, the great actor, said many years ago, Fernando Lamas.
00:20:38.000 I know he is.
00:20:39.000 He says it's better to look good than feel good.
00:20:41.000 Well, I don't know if he's right.
00:20:44.000 He was married to Esther Williams.
00:20:45.000 Yeah, I think he's wrong.
00:20:46.000 I think he's definitely wrong.
00:20:47.000 I think you're better off feeling good than looking good. 1.00
00:20:49.000 Because if you look good and you feel like shit, you'll live in hell. 1.00
00:20:52.000 But if you look like shit, but you feel fantastic, as long as no one's looking at you and you're not freaking out, what do you care? 1.00
00:20:58.000 Right? 0.99
00:20:58.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:20:58.000 I think he's wrong. 0.99
00:21:00.000 So your knee and your hips, did they saw the top of your hip off too? 1.00
00:21:06.000 Do the same thing?
00:21:06.000 Yeah, same thing.
00:21:07.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:21:08.000 So you've got the top of your femur and the bottom of your femur sawed off.
00:21:11.000 Both legs.
00:21:15.000 Jesus, Dan. 0.98
00:21:16.000 You kill a bear with a knife? 0.99
00:21:19.000 I slowed it down with a handgun and then I killed it with a knife. 1.00
00:21:22.000 What the hell? 0.99
00:21:23.000 What was going on? 0.99
00:21:24.000 Bear was trying to kill you?
00:21:26.000 Well, let me just say, I have three regrets in life.
00:21:29.000 It leads into this.
00:21:31.000 The segue will become obvious. 1.00
00:21:33.000 First regret is the day before my mom died, I told her, you're not fucking sick, you're not fucking sick, you're not going to die. 0.99
00:21:39.000 She dies the next day. 0.99
00:21:40.000 Okay.
00:21:41.000 Second regret I have is the fact that I'm a combat trained army officer who never saw combat.
00:21:48.000 Never got any real trigger time.
00:21:51.000 The third regret is that I didn't set my goals high enough.
00:21:54.000 As successful as I am.
00:21:55.000 Okay.
00:21:56.000 So, because I tried to get involved with mercenary things when I got out of the military about 10 years, because I had done very well as far as business was concerned.
00:22:10.000 But I actually did a joint venture with the CIA. It's all public record now, and my statute of limitations passed, so I can't get in any trouble.
00:22:17.000 And that didn't work out, so I decided I'm going to do big game hunting.
00:22:20.000 So I started with rifles.
00:22:24.000 I know some guys do bows.
00:22:25.000 I believe you do.
00:22:27.000 That was too easy.
00:22:28.000 Then I did a handgun.
00:22:31.000 Handgun?
00:22:31.000 Handgun.
00:22:32.000 454 console used to be the biggest handgun made 25, 30 years ago.
00:22:36.000 So I hunted handgun.
00:22:37.000 You've got to get pretty close with a handgun.
00:22:38.000 How close do you get?
00:22:40.000 Well, I've been as close as you.
00:22:42.000 To what?
00:22:43.000 To the charging buffalo.
00:22:45.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:22:46.000 A buffalo was charging this close and you shot it with a handgun?
00:22:49.000 Yeah, I got run over by them.
00:22:50.000 Oh.
00:22:53.000 Well, let's get back to the bear.
00:22:54.000 But the handgun, like, do you try to get inside of 20 yards?
00:22:57.000 Like, how close are you trying to get?
00:22:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:22:58.000 Well, it depends how good a shot you are.
00:23:00.000 Right.
00:23:00.000 But, I mean, they're effective at 50 yards, but the accuracy is not so good at 50 yards.
00:23:05.000 But 20 yards is pretty good, 20 meters.
00:23:07.000 So, the...
00:23:10.000 So we're chasing this bear down right on the borderline of Alaska and whatever the Canadian province is up there.
00:23:16.000 And I get within about 40, 50 yards of him.
00:23:20.000 And then he turns around because he says, why am I running?
00:23:23.000 You know, he asks himself, why am I running?
00:23:24.000 And he turns around and I hit him a couple of times with the 454. And now he knows.
00:23:29.000 So then he runs again.
00:23:30.000 And so I chase him some more.
00:23:31.000 And to make a long story short, by the time I unloaded all five, because it only has five shells, He's wounded.
00:23:38.000 He would have died probably in an hour or two hours, but he's still, you know, dangerous. 0.90
00:23:42.000 So then I jumped on him and stabbed him 70, 80 times. 0.97
00:23:46.000 Jesus Christ, Dan. 0.95
00:23:48.000 70 or 80 times?
00:23:50.000 I don't remember because the adrenaline's pumping so hard.
00:23:53.000 The hunter guide said my arm looked like a jackhammer.
00:23:58.000 It was going up and down so fast.
00:23:59.000 But I mean, I'm just, you know, I'm just jacked up.
00:24:02.000 Where are you stabbing him?
00:24:03.000 What part of his body? 0.99
00:24:04.000 I stabbed him in the chest. 0.99
00:24:06.000 Around the head, the neck, in here. 0.99
00:24:08.000 I was trying to hit a main artery. 0.80
00:24:10.000 And is he trying to bite you while you're doing this?
00:24:11.000 Oh yeah, he's with the big claws, you know, but I'm staying under the claws and he's losing coordination.
00:24:16.000 He could have got me, but he didn't.
00:24:18.000 He didn't.
00:24:18.000 Jesus Christ.
00:24:21.000 Is this a brown bear or a black bear?
00:24:22.000 Brown.
00:24:23.000 But the better story is the buffalo.
00:24:26.000 How do you get a better story than you maniacally homicidically stabbing a brown bear to death? 0.98
00:24:35.000 No, I went to Australia.
00:24:38.000 You saw the movie Crocodile Dundee.
00:24:40.000 Yes, I did.
00:24:41.000 Okay, well, there's a real crocodile, Dundee.
00:24:42.000 His name was Barry Lees.
00:24:43.000 So I went down there to hunt with him in Australia for 10 days, again with a handgun.
00:24:49.000 And I said, I want to get a big bull.
00:24:54.000 Like a water buffalo.
00:24:55.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:24:57.000 And he said, okay, well, we have to go into a certain part of Australia, near Darwin, up north.
00:25:02.000 And he said that, I can't promise he's still going to be there, but there's a big pond about four or five times as big as this room, and he should be there in the late afternoon, scratching his back on the roots, overhanging.
00:25:13.000 So we got there, we hiked in four or five hours, and he was there, just like he said he was going to be there.
00:25:18.000 And he said that, you don't want to just shoot him in the back.
00:25:23.000 No, I want him charging me.
00:25:25.000 Wait a minute, you wanted him to charge you?
00:25:28.000 Why did you want that?
00:25:29.000 I never saw combat.
00:25:31.000 But why is that so important to you?
00:25:33.000 It just is.
00:25:35.000 So just in your mind, you needed to be...
00:25:37.000 I'm not fulfilled.
00:25:38.000 Wow, life and death.
00:25:39.000 Yep.
00:25:40.000 It had to be like life and death combat.
00:25:42.000 Correct.
00:25:42.000 If it wasn't with the enemy, it was with some charging beast.
00:25:46.000 Correct.
00:25:46.000 Wow.
00:25:47.000 Correct.
00:25:47.000 So, he throws pebbles at him, he spins around, and he says he won't come out this way because it's too far for him to jump, and he can't jump that high.
00:25:55.000 Just like magic, that goddamn bull jumped 15 feet in the fucking air, spun around, and ran right at me. 0.98
00:26:01.000 So, about where you are. 1.00
00:26:04.000 As he ran over me and I fell back, I shot once and I hit him through the chin. 0.95
00:26:08.000 It went out his nose, but it missed his brain.
00:26:10.000 He put one hoof on my hip, and that's why I had to get a hip eventually, and one hoof on my left knee.
00:26:17.000 So arguably that's why I have a left knee.
00:26:19.000 So I felt like a train hit me.
00:26:21.000 So he keeps running.
00:26:22.000 I get up.
00:26:23.000 I'm dusting myself off.
00:26:24.000 So I've shot one out of five bullets. 1.00
00:26:27.000 So I say, well, I'm going to kill this bastard. 1.00
00:26:29.000 So I'm chasing him in the jungle. 1.00
00:26:30.000 With a blown out knee and a blown out hip?
00:26:33.000 Correct.
00:26:33.000 I'm chasing him in the jungle.
00:26:35.000 And the guide, Barry Lees, is yelling, Dan, I can't hear him though because I'm all pumped up.
00:26:41.000 Dan, Dan, he's screaming at me.
00:26:43.000 So I get close to him.
00:26:44.000 I shoot a couple more times.
00:26:46.000 Then I shoot a couple more times.
00:26:47.000 And then the bull gets tired.
00:26:50.000 He spins around just like in the movies.
00:26:52.000 And decides to charge from about that wall.
00:26:56.000 And just as he got about to where that chair is, I fire it again.
00:27:01.000 Click.
00:27:01.000 I'm empty.
00:27:02.000 Oh no.
00:27:04.000 And he falls dead at my feet.
00:27:06.000 From the other times I hit him.
00:27:08.000 Jesus Christ. 1.00
00:27:09.000 And so, but what Barry Lees was yelling at me, he says, you're fucking empty! 1.00
00:27:13.000 You're fucking empty! 0.99
00:27:14.000 He was telling me I had no more bullets left. 1.00
00:27:16.000 Wow.
00:27:17.000 But I couldn't hear that.
00:27:18.000 Now when you get in a contest martial arts, do you go into automatic?
00:27:25.000 Yeah.
00:27:26.000 Yeah, you have to.
00:27:27.000 You think very little while you're in there.
00:27:31.000 You're supposed to be...
00:27:31.000 I mean, when you separate a little bit, sometimes you have time to think about what you're going to do, but most of it is you're relying on your training and your conditioning.
00:27:39.000 Well, I hear you when you're announcing those deals about there's some guys that are really in good condition, that they're animals or beasts, and it seems to me that that's...
00:27:52.000 One of the telling things, if you run out of gas in the second, third, or fourth round, you're screwed.
00:27:56.000 Yeah, well, there's different styles of fighting, too.
00:27:58.000 There's some guys who just, they sprint, and they can blow you out in the first couple of rounds.
00:28:03.000 But if they get into the third, fourth, and fifth round, they significantly diminish their output.
00:28:08.000 And that's...
00:28:10.000 Some guys have strategies like to weather the storm.
00:28:12.000 You just have to figure out a way to weather certain fighter storms and take them into the second and third round.
00:28:17.000 There's a guy like Hector Lombard is a famous MMA fighter.
00:28:21.000 He was a champion in other organizations.
00:28:23.000 He's a scary, scary guy. 1.00
00:28:24.000 And for one round, he might be the scariest motherfucker in the division. 1.00
00:28:28.000 He's terrifying. 1.00
00:28:29.000 He's built like a brick shithouse.
00:28:30.000 He comes at you fast and hard, but he's so muscular and so strong and his output is so explosive and kinetic.
00:28:37.000 He's not like a rhythmic, slow, technical, methodical fighter.
00:28:41.000 He's a sprinter.
00:28:43.000 And so after that initial sprint, he's not the same in the second and third rounds usually.
00:28:47.000 Does he win?
00:28:48.000 Sometimes.
00:28:48.000 He wins a lot.
00:28:49.000 I mean, he's a world-class fighter for sure.
00:28:51.000 The guys I like were the Diaz brothers.
00:28:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:28:53.000 Well, they're the opposite.
00:28:54.000 They're guys who just come at you and they can throw volume for days.
00:28:59.000 They don't ever get tired.
00:29:00.000 Those guys can go on and on and on and on and on.
00:29:02.000 They break people with their pace.
00:29:04.000 Yeah.
00:29:04.000 And the older one, I guess, beat McGregor.
00:29:09.000 No, the younger one, actually.
00:29:10.000 It's Nate.
00:29:11.000 Yeah, Nate is the younger one.
00:29:12.000 Yeah, that was a great fight.
00:29:15.000 It was a fun fight.
00:29:16.000 The second fight was fun, too.
00:29:18.000 So, from not having combat experience in the war, you had this desire...
00:29:24.000 Real combat, yeah.
00:29:25.000 Real combat experience.
00:29:26.000 You had this desire to put yourself in danger and to test yourself.
00:29:29.000 I wanted to see if I was going to live or die.
00:29:31.000 So that's why you decided the next way to do this is to do it with a water buffalo.
00:29:36.000 Now, you were talking earlier about mercenary work.
00:29:39.000 Like, what kind of mercenary work are you talking about?
00:29:41.000 In the early 80s, I had the privilege of being mentored by Konstantin Grazos, who was the chief executive of Onassis Shipping Line, the 60-year right-hand man of Aristotle Onassis.
00:29:51.000 He was one of my mentors.
00:29:53.000 And he, the Vatican, the CIA, Imelda Marcos, and a guy named Talaveras of Mobile Oil, the CEO, came up with an idea that they were going to invade Haiti, just like Clinton did 12 years later.
00:30:08.000 Okay?
00:30:09.000 And for all different reasons.
00:30:12.000 Onassis wanted the shipping of the oil.
00:30:14.000 Mobile wanted the oil.
00:30:16.000 The Vatican wanted more Catholics.
00:30:19.000 C.I.A. wanted to have them not be a baby Doc Duvalier, communistic, eating with the communists right near Florida.
00:30:27.000 And I don't know what the fuck Emelda was there for. 1.00
00:30:29.000 She wasn't buying shoes or anything, but she was there. 0.99
00:30:32.000 And I was put in charge of that project by Mr. Grazos.
00:30:37.000 And we put together a mercenary army, and we had some of the great mercenaries, a guy named Mike Williams, one of the great mercenaries of the 70s and 80s.
00:30:47.000 And just as we were going to launch the attack and land with boots on the ground, Cyrus Vance, Secretary of State, pulled the plug on the deal.
00:30:57.000 But I was going to come out of a helicopter just like Schwarzenegger does.
00:31:01.000 By the way, you can't hold those big guns.
00:31:03.000 Even Arnie can't.
00:31:04.000 The way they do it, they're too heavy.
00:31:06.000 But anyway, I was going to be the first feet on the ground. 0.99
00:31:09.000 And then when that thing fell to shit, I said, well, maybe I'm just not meant to see combat, you know? 0.99
00:31:15.000 Wow. 0.98
00:31:15.000 So it was something that was really important to you. 0.98
00:31:18.000 Yeah.
00:31:18.000 But was it important to you because you didn't know how you would fare or because you knew how you would fare and you wanted to test yourself or you just wanted to experience?
00:31:26.000 I was almost 100% positive I knew that I had balls and I wouldn't, you know, weenie out.
00:31:33.000 But until you do it, you don't know for sure. 0.57
00:31:35.000 Growing up as a kid on the hood and being arrested five times and all the trouble I got in.
00:31:39.000 You grew up in the hood?
00:31:40.000 Yeah.
00:31:40.000 What hood?
00:31:41.000 East L.A. Did you really?
00:31:43.000 Yeah.
00:31:44.000 That's hilarious.
00:31:44.000 In fact, we were just over there.
00:31:46.000 I like to go to the hood two or three times a year just to see it again.
00:31:50.000 And so I went from the Jonathan Club, where I'm a member, to the hood.
00:31:55.000 And my same driver I've had many years.
00:31:58.000 And we took one of my mentees, who's also from the hood, Cambodian kid.
00:32:02.000 Because the Cambodians drove the Mexicans out of my portion of the hood. 1.00
00:32:08.000 And so I went back to the hood, and he went to the same grammar school I did, Rota Street.
00:32:12.000 He went to the same Catholic church I went to.
00:32:14.000 Now, for your audience, nobody believes this, but I used to teach catechism.
00:32:18.000 I used to teach Bible study because I wanted to be a priest.
00:32:20.000 You wanted to be a priest?
00:32:21.000 When I was a little kid.
00:32:22.000 Whoa.
00:32:23.000 Yeah, and so the...
00:32:25.000 It's hard to believe, but I did.
00:32:27.000 But maybe all little Catholic boys, when they're 10, 12, 13, want to be priests.
00:32:31.000 Maybe not, but I did.
00:32:33.000 So, when...
00:32:36.000 Well, I got in a lot of trouble when I was in the fifth, sixth grade.
00:32:39.000 I dropped an aquarium, and it's on my side.
00:32:42.000 I pointed a picture from the second floor.
00:32:44.000 I dropped an aquarium on my teacher's head from the second floor, and if he hadn't moved six inches, we wouldn't be sitting here.
00:32:53.000 I would have gone to San Quentin, I would have gone to Juvie, and I would have had a different life. 0.99
00:32:57.000 But he moved and I only shattered his shoulder and fucked him up. 0.98
00:33:01.000 But that's not the worst thing I did in school. 0.98
00:33:04.000 I was expelled three times before I got out of grammar school.
00:33:07.000 What?
00:33:08.000 Yeah.
00:33:09.000 Grammar school?
00:33:09.000 Grammar school.
00:33:10.000 What'd you do?
00:33:11.000 Well, I did that to the teacher.
00:33:13.000 They expelled you for how long?
00:33:15.000 Three weeks. 1.00
00:33:15.000 And then you come back and the teacher's still fucked up. 1.00
00:33:17.000 Yeah, and then another guy. 0.99
00:33:18.000 Did you have to say sorry?
00:33:19.000 No, I didn't say sorry.
00:33:21.000 Another guy in the school.
00:33:24.000 Did you feel sorry?
00:33:24.000 No.
00:33:25.000 I didn't try to kill.
00:33:27.000 I really didn't.
00:33:27.000 That wasn't in my mind.
00:33:28.000 How old were you at the time?
00:33:29.000 I was 11, 12. So why were you doing that?
00:33:32.000 He pissed me off, obviously.
00:33:33.000 I don't really remember why. 0.99
00:33:34.000 I know I dropped the goddamn aquarium, though. 0.99
00:33:36.000 That's a given. 0.99
00:33:38.000 So another guy, I got in a fight with a guy and I knocked him down.
00:33:41.000 And I was the biggest guy in grammar school.
00:33:44.000 How do you remember that you were the biggest guy in grammar school?
00:33:47.000 Because I was the tallest guy in grammar school.
00:33:51.000 And so some other guy came up and I got in a fight and knocked him down.
00:33:54.000 And apparently he broke his elbow when he fell down.
00:33:57.000 And the kid says, you broke my arm, you broke my arm.
00:34:00.000 And I went over and I broke his arm in six places for real after that. 1.00
00:34:05.000 Now you got a broken arm, asshole. 1.00
00:34:07.000 Mean little fucking kid. 1.00
00:34:09.000 Yeah, I guess I was. 1.00
00:34:10.000 So do you think that this is from growing up in the hood, just being in a dog-eat-dog environment?
00:34:16.000 Yeah.
00:34:17.000 I'm positive it was.
00:34:18.000 Yeah, and so that led you to really want to test yourself in the military.
00:34:22.000 Correct.
00:34:24.000 Correct.
00:34:24.000 And when you look back on all that stuff and all that intense aggression and all those thoughts, did you take anything out of that that you carry with you as an older man?
00:34:33.000 Absolutely.
00:34:34.000 Well, I'm a kinder, gentler guy now.
00:34:36.000 Yeah, you seem like a real nice guy.
00:34:37.000 Yeah, I am.
00:34:38.000 But I've turned that aggression into success in business.
00:34:42.000 What about peace and calm?
00:34:44.000 Do you have that?
00:34:45.000 I don't meditate.
00:34:48.000 We're good to go.
00:35:04.000 Yeah, you tell me that like so what are the effects of agent?
00:35:07.000 Well as you get older your immune system breaks down and the agent orange that you had latent in your system now starts to come out.
00:35:14.000 Like what is it? 0.99
00:35:15.000 Well, I mean he's lost 40 pounds this guy I saw him pick up a Corvette when we were kids and Now he has trouble getting up steps Wow Yeah, Agent Orange is some scary shit, 0.99
00:35:31.000 wasn't it? 0.99
00:35:31.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:35:31.000 It was an exfoliant, right? 0.99
00:35:34.000 Correct.
00:35:34.000 Or defoliant that they sprayed on the jungle in Vietnam where all these soldiers were down there in it.
00:35:39.000 Crazy, crazy shit that they just experimented on those kids. 0.99
00:35:42.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:35:43.000 And that's just, you know, again, folks, don't forget, that was 50 years ago.
00:35:47.000 It wasn't long ago at all.
00:35:50.000 It's like I sat next to McNamara when he was president of the World Bank, who was one of the fathers of the Vietnam War, and he was a weird dude.
00:36:01.000 He said that the world is going to end in the apocalypse, and it's going to be the haves against the have-nots someday.
00:36:10.000 He says, hopefully, you won't be around when that happens.
00:36:16.000 And...
00:36:17.000 He says there's certain problems on the planet that are never going to get solved.
00:36:20.000 And he talked about the Israeli-Palestinian.
00:36:23.000 He says, yeah.
00:36:24.000 He says, we have had, at that time, two holy wars.
00:36:30.000 And you could argue that this is just an extension of the holy war, what's happening.
00:36:34.000 And he says, we didn't work it out in 700 AD, and we didn't work it out in 1100 AD, and we're not going to work it out this time.
00:36:43.000 So he was kind of a negative guy.
00:36:46.000 The glass was half empty instead of half full.
00:36:48.000 What do you think?
00:36:49.000 I don't think we're gonna work it out there either.
00:36:51.000 No?
00:36:52.000 I've been in partnership with the Israeli government.
00:36:54.000 I've been in partnership with the Kuwaiti government, the Yemen government, and a couple others there.
00:36:59.000 It's a bridge too far.
00:37:01.000 I just don't see it happening.
00:37:03.000 I just don't.
00:37:04.000 And why is that?
00:37:06.000 Well, I mean, from the Muslim point of view, they have the right to practice whatever religion they want.
00:37:12.000 But it's an 8th, 9th century religion in the 21st century.
00:37:15.000 I mean, there's a lot of stuff that's not socially acceptable.
00:37:18.000 You talk about politically correct, a lot of the stuff they do transcends being politically correct.
00:37:24.000 I mean, and I don't think that's going to change.
00:37:27.000 I just don't.
00:37:28.000 I hope I'm wrong.
00:37:30.000 So you think that the way they, like for instance, where they treat women, the way they won't let women drive, the way they make them wear their religious, how do you say it?
00:37:41.000 Burka.
00:37:41.000 Hajib, yeah.
00:37:42.000 Yeah, the burkas. 1.00
00:37:43.000 Yeah, well, so you think that that's just going to stay the way it is forever.
00:37:47.000 In my lifetime, in your lifetime, maybe...
00:37:49.000 Maybe a hundred years from now.
00:37:50.000 Maybe.
00:37:51.000 Sort of like comparing Christianity from the Inquisition to today.
00:37:54.000 Yeah.
00:37:54.000 So it needs to somehow or another catch up.
00:37:56.000 Yeah.
00:37:57.000 And maybe 500 years it will.
00:38:00.000 For the planet's sake, I think we haven't been... 0.99
00:38:03.000 Aliens haven't come to this planet because they look at us, we're all fucked up. 0.98
00:38:09.000 Is that what you think? 1.00
00:38:09.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:38:10.000 Do you contemplate this?
00:38:11.000 Yeah.
00:38:12.000 Really? 1.00
00:38:13.000 Do you ever sit around smoking a cigar with a glass of scotch going, we're the fucking aliens. 1.00
00:38:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:38:17.000 Come over here, I want to shoot you. 1.00
00:38:18.000 Yeah, yeah. 1.00
00:38:19.000 I don't think they're interested.
00:38:21.000 What are they going to learn from us?
00:38:22.000 Well, I would be absolutely fascinated if I found a group of chimpanzees that had figured out how to make fire with sticks and were building structures and were starting some sort of an organized war against other chimpanzees. 0.68
00:38:36.000 I would be absolutely fascinated. 0.97
00:38:38.000 If they had weapons and they were sneaking up on these other chimps and using spears, I'd be like, holy shit, look at this. 1.00
00:38:43.000 This is us a long time ago. 0.98
00:38:45.000 And I would imagine that aliens would feel the same way about us.
00:38:47.000 Well, I mean, except they're probably a million years advanced.
00:38:51.000 Maybe, or maybe a hundred years advanced.
00:38:53.000 Well, if they're 100 years advanced, I think they would have come down and seen us.
00:38:56.000 Maybe they're not ready yet.
00:38:58.000 Maybe 100 years from now, we won't be ready to go to other planets, but maybe someone out there is just a little bit more advanced than us, and they're watching.
00:39:04.000 Well, Elon Musk wants to die on Mars. 1.00
00:39:07.000 That motherfucker's ridiculous. 1.00
00:39:08.000 Okay, he wants to die on Mars. 1.00
00:39:10.000 With an electric car.
00:39:11.000 Yeah, and the...
00:39:12.000 Do you know when the first electric car was, Joe?
00:39:15.000 Yeah, a long time ago.
00:39:15.000 It was in the early 1900s, right?
00:39:17.000 No, 1860s.
00:39:18.000 Was it really?
00:39:19.000 Okay.
00:39:19.000 If we really wanted electric cars, it was the first car for 20, 30 years.
00:39:24.000 If we really wanted electric cars, don't you think we could have developed them by now?
00:39:27.000 Well, we definitely should have, but the influence of the fossil fuel companies.
00:39:31.000 Correct.
00:39:31.000 Yeah.
00:39:32.000 And do you know why Aramco is going public, the national oil company of Saudi Arabia?
00:39:38.000 No.
00:39:38.000 Okay.
00:39:39.000 You're going to hear it first here.
00:39:40.000 Jesus, I can't believe this.
00:39:41.000 Okay.
00:39:42.000 They're selling 2% of the company...
00:39:45.000 Not because they need money, because they've got all the money in the world.
00:39:49.000 Because when you go public, you have to have a reserve report.
00:39:52.000 The reserve report is going to show how many barrels they have.
00:39:55.000 Proved producing, proved, unproved.
00:39:59.000 And we've been guesstimating for years and years and years that Aramco's got a couple hundred million barrels, maybe three, four, five hundred million barrels.
00:40:06.000 Billion barrels, excuse me. 0.75
00:40:09.000 That report's going to show they have trillions of barrels And there's no fucking way they're ever going to let fracking, electric cars, or anything else.
00:40:19.000 When they're out of their trillions of barrels, then they're going to let electric cars come to pass. 0.97
00:40:24.000 So you think like all these oil crisis warnings and all the talk about them running out of oil in places is all bullshit? 0.79
00:40:31.000 Yep. 0.97
00:40:32.000 100%.
00:40:32.000 100%.
00:40:34.000 What do you think oil is?
00:40:36.000 Okay, let me back up a second.
00:40:38.000 In August 2014, I was on not a show as prestigious as yours, but some other guy's show, and I said when oil was $120 a barrel, we will see $40 oil before we see $200 oil. 0.93
00:40:52.000 I'll bet both of my testicles. 0.94
00:40:55.000 Oh, strong bet. 0.97
00:40:56.000 Okay, in February last year, oil hit $26 a barrel.
00:40:59.000 Today, it's $48.
00:41:02.000 Now, there's a whole bunch of reasons why I know that.
00:41:04.000 Having done business in the Middle East, knowing Aramco's got hundreds of trillions of barrels, knowing that when the king of Saudi Arabia passed away about a year and a half ago, and his brother, who's considered not as bright as his half-brother died,
00:41:21.000 and who hates Americans, allegedly, and who is sick and tired of hearing about fracking, that we're going to end the frackers forever.
00:41:32.000 See, OPEC is great, except there's no accountability.
00:41:35.000 There's only two countries in the world that actually adhere to OPEC. Canada, three countries.
00:41:42.000 Canada, the U.S., and the U.K. Everybody else cheats.
00:41:46.000 How so?
00:41:47.000 They produce as much oil as they want.
00:41:51.000 So what is...
00:41:51.000 OPEC has regulations on how much oil you can produce?
00:41:54.000 Correct.
00:41:54.000 And why do they have those regulations?
00:41:56.000 Because...
00:41:56.000 To cap the market?
00:41:57.000 Correct.
00:41:58.000 So they don't drive down the price of the market.
00:42:01.000 So now what they're doing with fracking is they're making oil in America so readily available that what they're doing in the Middle East is dropping the price down low so that the fracking is not worth doing.
00:42:10.000 Correct.
00:42:11.000 And a barrel of oil at the wellhead from a fracked well, the cost is about 80 bucks a barrel.
00:42:18.000 Uh-huh.
00:42:19.000 To just get it there, not to get it in the pipeline, not to get it to the refineries, not to do any of that.
00:42:23.000 80 bucks a barrel. 0.98
00:42:24.000 So if they keep oil between 40 and 60 for the next 100 years, all the frackers are fucked. 0.97
00:42:32.000 Yeah, and how do you feel about fracking? 0.92
00:42:35.000 Because I've heard mixed stories about fracking or mixed reports and mixed opinions.
00:42:40.000 Some people believe that it's a good way for us to be independent with our oil and to break off from this whole Weird sort of crisis in this situation that we have with the Middle East. 0.86
00:42:51.000 And other people feel like it's super dangerous.
00:42:53.000 And what we're doing is we're potentially poisoning water supplies.
00:42:56.000 We're creating earthquakes in some place that's as stable as Oklahoma, which was like seismically, it was a non-entity, like never had any issues with earthquakes.
00:43:05.000 Now they have tons of earthquakes.
00:43:07.000 And they're just constantly drilling into the ground.
00:43:09.000 And who knows what are the consequences of that?
00:43:11.000 Both of those theories are correct.
00:43:13.000 Both of the theories.
00:43:14.000 But I'm not a save-the-world kind of guy.
00:43:16.000 What are you?
00:43:17.000 You're a slash-and-burn type of guy?
00:43:19.000 No, no, not slash-and-burn, but I believe that if there is a higher power, he helps those who help themselves.
00:43:26.000 Wow, that's convenient to think like that, though, isn't it?
00:43:29.000 Well, I think it is.
00:43:30.000 That's why I think that way.
00:43:32.000 But if he helps those that help themselves, wouldn't he not help people who would poison the water supply? 0.77
00:43:37.000 Well, I mean, that's an exaggeration.
00:43:39.000 It's not poisoning the water supply like the protesters are saying.
00:43:45.000 But by the same token, why frack when, if my theory is correct, about Saudi Arabia having hundreds of trillions and they're never going to allow the fracked oil to come to market,
00:44:02.000 why do it?
00:44:04.000 Right.
00:44:05.000 If they're never going to allow the fracked oil to come to market.
00:44:07.000 So the fracked oil, what are they doing with it right now?
00:44:09.000 Well, right now, fracking is down like 70 or 80%.
00:44:13.000 It is?
00:44:13.000 Yes, it is.
00:44:14.000 And why is it down?
00:44:16.000 Because of the price of oil?
00:44:17.000 Exactly.
00:44:18.000 So it has nothing to do with environmental concerns?
00:44:20.000 No, I mean, it's just like Obama didn't want the pipeline because of environmental concerns.
00:44:26.000 The Dakota Access Pipeline?
00:44:27.000 Correct.
00:44:27.000 But it all started during his watch.
00:44:29.000 Yeah, I understand that.
00:44:30.000 But now Trump says that you can have the pipeline.
00:44:34.000 Because he's looked at the same studies that I've looked at, and it's all online on Google, is that There is this much in the United States, and the environmental things that may be hurting is this much in the United States.
00:44:47.000 So you're talking, you spread your arms up very wide for people listening, and then when you said about environmental concerns, you put it very small.
00:44:55.000 Correct.
00:44:55.000 But isn't it something that if we could avoid those very small environmental disasters, those very small environmental disasters, they're going to impact that area for thousands of years.
00:45:05.000 Correct.
00:45:06.000 I mean, it's a significant issue.
00:45:08.000 Sure it is, but I mean, there's more than, you know, there's the one side of an argument, the other side of the argument, and then somewhere in between is the truth.
00:45:18.000 I mean, where the truth lies.
00:45:20.000 But do you think that the only way for us to prosper is to put those areas in danger?
00:45:24.000 I mean, if you say that there is a potential for an environmental disaster that could affect that area for thousands of years, take that risk for financial gain No, I'm not saying for a financial gain.
00:45:39.000 It's not a financial gain?
00:45:39.000 No, of course it's a financial gain.
00:45:41.000 I was in the oil business for 20 years.
00:45:43.000 That's allegedly where I made my fortune.
00:45:46.000 Allegedly?
00:45:47.000 Allegedly, yeah.
00:45:48.000 I've done other things very successfully, but that's the one that they talk about.
00:45:51.000 I turned $800 into $500 million.
00:45:55.000 In eight years and so forever more I'm an oil man, right?
00:45:59.000 Okay, but I did a I've created 50 billion since then So I mean the the what's more important the 50 billion to the 500 million, right?
00:46:07.000 So I got it.
00:46:08.000 Yeah, okay, but the the fact is that Politically, whoever gets in office, and right now we have Trump, and he's backed by the Senate and the Congress, etc., has promised to be like an isolationist,
00:46:23.000 more or less.
00:46:24.000 He's not interested in the wars around, and I'm not saying that's right or wrong.
00:46:27.000 I'm just saying that's his position.
00:46:29.000 And a majority of the electoral votes got him elected.
00:46:32.000 Not the popular vote, but electoral votes.
00:46:36.000 But whether the United States of America is ruining parts of it, 500 years from now, that'll be ruined.
00:46:47.000 Whilst important, it is not the overriding energy, pun intended, of what we should be thinking about.
00:46:58.000 What we should be thinking about is doing away with war.
00:47:02.000 You know, living happily.
00:47:06.000 You know, and even I believe that, and I'm an aggressive guy.
00:47:11.000 But that model hasn't worked.
00:47:15.000 Why is that?
00:47:16.000 Well, why were there still wars?
00:47:19.000 Well, I mean, when you talk about the Iraq War and you talk about the Afghanistan War, those are the longest wars we've engaged in the United States.
00:47:25.000 And we didn't have to be there.
00:47:26.000 Right.
00:47:27.000 No, I understand that.
00:47:28.000 Yeah.
00:47:28.000 But how are we going to keep People elected those people that put us there.
00:47:35.000 Just like the people elected Trump to put him there.
00:47:37.000 Just like they elected Clinton to put him there.
00:47:41.000 And we're still in wars.
00:47:43.000 Right, but Clinton didn't do it.
00:47:45.000 I mean, this was all post 9-11.
00:47:47.000 And there was obviously some military actions that were involved when Clinton was in office.
00:47:50.000 But when Bill Clinton was president, it was one of the most peaceful times in the history of this country.
00:47:56.000 Wouldn't you agree?
00:47:57.000 Um...
00:47:58.000 He took out Haiti. 0.99
00:48:00.000 He followed up on the Dan Pena plan to take out Haiti. 0.95
00:48:02.000 That was the Dan Pena plan?
00:48:04.000 Did you have a hashtag trademark?
00:48:06.000 Yes, well, I can coin it now.
00:48:08.000 But, I mean, don't you think that in terms of, like, if you compare pre-Bush, you know, when 9-11 happened, from then on, we've been in this perpetual state of war.
00:48:17.000 But during the entire eight years that Clinton was in office, although there were some military actions, it was one of the more peaceful times.
00:48:23.000 Yeah, there probably was.
00:48:24.000 You're probably right, yeah.
00:48:25.000 Well, there wasn't as much worry as there is today.
00:48:28.000 Today it seems like there's threats of terrorism, we're worried about North Korea, instability all around the globe.
00:48:35.000 I want you to hear something else for the first on your program.
00:48:38.000 Okay.
00:48:39.000 Who do you think killed...
00:48:41.000 The president's half-brother of North Korea.
00:48:44.000 Didn't they, like, hire some people?
00:48:46.000 They thought it was a prank?
00:48:47.000 Well, that's what the story is.
00:48:49.000 Oh, it's a different story?
00:48:50.000 Yeah.
00:48:50.000 No.
00:48:51.000 Well, the North Koreans think that the South Koreans did it.
00:48:54.000 Right.
00:48:55.000 I think the USA CIA did it.
00:48:57.000 Well, I thought the North Koreans thought that the brother did it, that Kim Jong-un did it to his brother.
00:49:04.000 Yeah, because the brother was kind of sneaky.
00:49:06.000 Well, I think the CIA did it to send a message to North Korea.
00:49:08.000 Really?
00:49:08.000 Yeah.
00:49:09.000 What kind of message is that? 1.00
00:49:10.000 I mean, don't fuck with us. 1.00
00:49:12.000 Oh. 1.00
00:49:12.000 Seems like they could do a better job of sending that message. 1.00
00:49:14.000 Well, I mean, they killed him.
00:49:16.000 I guess, but who is he?
00:49:17.000 He wasn't even in... 0.99
00:49:18.000 No, no, but I mean, if you can kill the half-brother of the president, you can kill the president. 1.00
00:49:22.000 Well, that would probably be a better idea. 0.98
00:49:23.000 But if they did do that, don't you think it would just create a vacuum, like the same thing that happened in Libya when they killed Gaddafi?
00:49:28.000 I don't read enough books to know that.
00:49:30.000 I don't read any books in Libya, but I've watched a lot of documentaries on that whole Qaddafi situation. 0.98
00:49:35.000 That's a complete clusterfuck.
00:49:37.000 Well, I mean, the United States government has been doing that for 100 years, where they back a government. 0.99
00:49:42.000 It turns out to be a crooked government.
00:49:43.000 So then they've got to go take all the backing away from them and then avoid...
00:49:48.000 Mm-hmm.
00:49:49.000 Is created and then the guys that come in...
00:49:52.000 Are worse.
00:49:52.000 Yeah.
00:49:53.000 Like what's going on in Iraq right now.
00:49:54.000 Yeah, we've been doing that for a long, long time.
00:49:56.000 With ISIS. But what's happening in Libya, Libya is basically a failed state.
00:49:59.000 It's a scary, scary place right now.
00:50:01.000 And if you talk to people that were there pre-Qaddafi or during Qaddafi's administration now, like it's way safer then when Qaddafi was running things.
00:50:10.000 Obviously, if you were an enemy of Gaddafi, it wasn't safe for you.
00:50:14.000 He was a brutal dictator.
00:50:16.000 But the business of running countries, especially running countries all around the world, is a horrible, horrible, messy business.
00:50:22.000 You know, messy, brutal, evil business.
00:50:24.000 It's always underestimated.
00:50:26.000 And one of my favorite sayings is, never underestimate how wrong you can be.
00:50:30.000 And we always seem to underestimate it.
00:50:35.000 And I don't think that's going to change.
00:50:37.000 Is it right?
00:50:38.000 Do you think we're going to get better?
00:50:39.000 I mean, we've gotten better over the last hundred years.
00:50:41.000 I mean, since caveman, since that chimpanzee that learned how to use a rock.
00:50:44.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:50:45.000 Yeah, well, we've gotten better.
00:50:46.000 I mean, but we've been getting better for 40,000 years.
00:50:50.000 And the planet's been alive for 13.8 billion years.
00:50:54.000 But we've only had Google for like 20. Oh, yeah.
00:50:56.000 Well, I'm not such a proponent that Google's going to change the world.
00:51:00.000 You don't think so?
00:51:01.000 No.
00:51:01.000 Well, not like the millennials think.
00:51:04.000 Or maybe...
00:51:06.000 My generation?
00:51:07.000 One of my Generation X, I guess?
00:51:08.000 It's funny, that whole generation thing.
00:51:10.000 We get labels.
00:51:12.000 I think there's a real possibility that information...
00:51:15.000 And I think there's some battles going on right now with information where people are trying to figure out...
00:51:20.000 How it should affect things and what it should affect and what kind of an impact it's ultimately going to have in our culture, but I think it's having a massive impact.
00:51:28.000 And I think it's hard for us to...
00:51:29.000 Yeah.
00:51:30.000 Well, I said Google, but Google meaning the ability to search things.
00:51:33.000 You know, there's Bing and there's the access to information through those portals.
00:51:37.000 We're inundated with instant information.
00:51:40.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:51:41.000 I mean, what took guys...
00:51:44.000 Years, the research for a PhD paper can be now researched in days or weeks or if that.
00:51:51.000 Yeah, it's a magical time when it comes to that.
00:51:55.000 And I feel like that, if anything, is going to change foreign countries quicker than any other kind of change.
00:52:02.000 Because I feel like just having the access to the information that things are different in other parts of the world, that people are thinking differently than they ever thought before, that there's more understanding about people, that we have more in common than this idea that countries are against each other.
00:52:18.000 The countries are consisted of people that don't even know each other for the most part, and we're supposed to be against some other people that we don't know in some other part of the world.
00:52:25.000 Well, why is it then Tiananmen Square in Beijing 30-whatever years ago it was.
00:52:34.000 We were in China not too long ago as a guest of the government.
00:52:39.000 Most kids don't even know that that happened because they're not allowed to have Google.
00:52:45.000 Same in Russia.
00:52:46.000 Same in countries in South America.
00:52:49.000 Now, getting back to why the oil...
00:52:55.000 Hydrocarbons are so important.
00:52:57.000 Russia's got an oil-driven economy now.
00:53:00.000 A good many of the countries in South America have oil-driven economies now.
00:53:04.000 Canada has an oil-driven economy now.
00:53:07.000 The UK arguably has an oil-driven economy now vis-a-vis the North Sea.
00:53:13.000 The US... It doesn't really have an oil-driven economy, but it has a big, big part of what happens.
00:53:19.000 Now, when you are making loans from financial institutions at $100, $120 oil with projections, because some dipshit MBA did a spreadsheet on them, to $200 oil, and you make loans, and now all those loans are underwater,
00:53:35.000 pun intended for the offshore stuff.
00:53:36.000 So is that what happened?
00:53:37.000 They made loans based on the prediction that it would continue to go up.
00:53:40.000 So some sort of universal growth or continual growth? 0.98
00:53:45.000 But anybody that's from the business, like I was, knew that that was horseshit. 0.90
00:53:49.000 Why did they think that unlimited growth in oil was going to happen and it was going to get to $200 a barrel if guys like you thought it was horseshit?
00:53:58.000 Because a whole other generation has come up that didn't suffer the last oil decline.
00:54:04.000 The last oil decline was the early 80s through the mid 80s when oil went from $40 a barrel to $6 a barrel and then went back up to $35 a barrel.
00:54:13.000 All those guys are either dead, in jail or retired.
00:54:17.000 And now they got young guys who learned something in a book, went to good schools, know how to do spreadsheets, etc.
00:54:24.000 But they don't have the experience.
00:54:28.000 We have tons and tons of information, but what we don't have running a lot of the companies is tons and tons of experience.
00:54:36.000 We have a lot of dots.
00:54:38.000 But we don't have the people that have connected the dots.
00:54:41.000 Now, to connect the dots to find out how much the Middle East actually has in barrels of oil, these trillions of barrels of oil, how would one do that?
00:54:49.000 And is this public information?
00:54:50.000 Like what you're saying, most people don't know this.
00:54:52.000 No, they don't know this.
00:54:53.000 How do you know it?
00:54:54.000 Well, because I was partners with the Kuwaiti government for seven years.
00:54:57.000 I used to be their fair-haired boy for investment.
00:55:01.000 Is that what they call you?
00:55:02.000 A fair-haired boy?
00:55:03.000 Fair-haired boy, yeah.
00:55:04.000 What does that mean?
00:55:05.000 Well, Fair-haired boy means that I was their favorite.
00:55:08.000 What a weird expression.
00:55:09.000 Yeah, fair-haired boy.
00:55:11.000 Fair-haired, I own black hair.
00:55:12.000 Right.
00:55:13.000 Okay.
00:55:13.000 I have blue eyes.
00:55:14.000 Right.
00:55:15.000 I'm fairing my complexion.
00:55:16.000 Got it.
00:55:17.000 Okay, that's what I said.
00:55:18.000 I get it, but it's weird.
00:55:19.000 Yeah.
00:55:20.000 Sorry.
00:55:20.000 And I think it's very surprising that Aramco is going to go public with the numbers, because it's been one of the great big secrets of all time in the energy business.
00:55:28.000 Do you think they're going public with the numbers to discourage further fracking?
00:55:31.000 Correct.
00:55:32.000 So they're going to say, look, we would rather have 100% of this thing at half the price than lose it all.
00:55:38.000 Correct.
00:55:39.000 And most of the alternative energy deals in the United States and the UK are funded by grants, government programs, That fail.
00:55:51.000 I mean, they don't make any money.
00:55:54.000 But when you stop doing that, the average cost for a barrel of oil, not fracking, in this country is about $45, $50 a barrel.
00:56:04.000 Right at the break-even to bring it up to the wellhead now.
00:56:07.000 In the Middle East, taking all of them into account, it's about $3 a barrel.
00:56:11.000 $3 a barrel.
00:56:13.000 Yeah.
00:56:13.000 A couple of the countries, less than a buck.
00:56:16.000 Whoa! 0.99
00:56:17.000 How the fuck can they do that? 0.99
00:56:19.000 Because the oil is... 0.99
00:56:21.000 Right there.
00:56:22.000 Here.
00:56:22.000 Uh-huh.
00:56:23.000 And they found oil.
00:56:25.000 They were living in tents as Bedouins, and they were looking for water.
00:56:28.000 Because they'd be dead now.
00:56:29.000 If they hadn't found water 100 years ago, they'd all be dead.
00:56:33.000 But they didn't need the water because they paid to make the water drinkable. 0.57
00:56:40.000 Desalienate?
00:56:40.000 Correct.
00:56:41.000 That's the word I was looking for.
00:56:44.000 That's an amazing thing.
00:56:45.000 So why is Exxon bothering to drill in the Gulf Coast?
00:56:50.000 Because Hope Springs Eternal.
00:56:52.000 So they want to plan for the future.
00:56:54.000 Correct.
00:56:55.000 I drilled in the Gulf Coast when I was running a big oil company.
00:57:00.000 And there's two parts of the Gulf Coast.
00:57:03.000 There's the shelf, which is 600 feet deep.
00:57:07.000 And then there's beyond the shelf, which is like 10,000 feet deep.
00:57:09.000 And that's big, big money to drill those test wells. 0.96
00:57:13.000 And the big guys like Exxon are looking for elephants.
00:57:16.000 They're looking for the big, big reserves.
00:57:19.000 Smaller independents like I was, was looking for, you know, the smaller reserves.
00:57:23.000 Now when Exxon goes and looks for the big reserves, what kind of equipment do they use to decide where the oil is?
00:57:29.000 Well, an offshore drilling rig will cost between, in the shallow, $25 to $40 million, and in the deep, $75 to $250 million.
00:57:40.000 For just the rig, the thing.
00:57:41.000 Right.
00:57:42.000 So how do they know where the oil is?
00:57:45.000 Oh, they have geologists, which are like, this is a personal point of view, geologists, geophysicists.
00:57:50.000 Like psychics?
00:57:51.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:57:52.000 You're better off with a psychic.
00:57:55.000 So they basically know there's a shitload of oil out there.
00:57:59.000 Somewhere.
00:57:59.000 So they just drill in.
00:58:00.000 Now, what is oil?
00:58:02.000 Explain to me what is oil.
00:58:03.000 I read a book a long time ago that confused the fuck out of me.
00:58:06.000 It was called Black Gold Stranglehold.
00:58:07.000 I don't know if you've ever heard about it.
00:58:08.000 I've heard of it.
00:58:09.000 I've never read it.
00:58:09.000 It was a book that was saying that oil is not fossil fuels, and that it's not what people think it is, but it's actually a renewable process that the earth creates this oil, and that wells go dry, and then if you leave them alone for a while, they build up with oil again.
00:58:25.000 No, well, that's a theory, but nobody's ever left the well alone long enough to find out if that's true or not.
00:58:33.000 They're talking about hundreds of thousands of years.
00:58:35.000 They're not talking about 40 years.
00:58:36.000 Right.
00:58:37.000 But Wells, oh, so this guy, it seemed like a wacky book.
00:58:41.000 It was one of those books I was reading.
00:58:42.000 Have you ever read The Holographic Universe?
00:58:43.000 No.
00:58:44.000 It's another book. 0.99
00:58:45.000 Halfway into the book, I'm like, what the fuck am I reading? 1.00
00:58:48.000 This is a goofy-ass book. 1.00
00:58:49.000 It's just too much goofiness in it. 0.98
00:58:51.000 But that, Black Gold Stranglehold, I wanted to talk to a real oil man about this.
00:58:55.000 So oil is created by what?
00:58:57.000 Things dying and deteriorating?
00:58:59.000 Correct.
00:58:59.000 From 40, 50, 100 million years ago.
00:59:03.000 And they sit under the ground and they form hydrocarbons.
00:59:07.000 Two different kind of hydrocarbons.
00:59:09.000 Either it's like gas and oil.
00:59:12.000 And...
00:59:14.000 And when it comes up one pipe and there's a separator, sometimes you just have a pure oil well, sometimes you have just a pure gas well, but mostly you have a mix.
00:59:23.000 So there's a separator.
00:59:25.000 It's a unit that is an engineer's wet dream at the top that separates all this.
00:59:30.000 Right.
00:59:30.000 Then it's put into a pipeline and taken to a refinery, or it's put into a truck and taken to a refinery.
00:59:36.000 And some of the distillate, the actual oil, depending on the gravity, can go straight into a car.
00:59:45.000 I mean, that's how pure it is.
00:59:46.000 Yeah.
00:59:47.000 And it doesn't have to be refined.
00:59:48.000 Of course, the refiners don't like those kind of oils because then they...
00:59:51.000 So what is it when it's...
00:59:52.000 When you don't have to refine it.
00:59:54.000 I mean, it has been sat under the ground.
00:59:57.000 For so long?
00:59:57.000 The thicker the oil, the less time it's been under the ground.
01:00:00.000 So if you've got oil that's been there 40 million years, it will look like kerosene.
01:00:05.000 If you've got oil that's only been there 10 million years, it'll look black and gunky.
01:00:10.000 Oh, that's fascinating.
01:00:12.000 Now, we used to call it dead dinosaurs, but it's not really...
01:00:16.000 Animal matter as much as it is.
01:00:17.000 Plant matter, is that true?
01:00:18.000 Plant, yeah.
01:00:19.000 Mostly plant matter?
01:00:20.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:00:20.000 So it's just deteriorating leaves and trees and things along those lines, and then it slowly but surely over millions of years becomes oil.
01:00:27.000 What a weird thing to power our world on.
01:00:30.000 Well, I mean, it's been around a long time.
01:00:33.000 But if we really wanted electric batteries...
01:00:36.000 We've had those 40 years longer than we've had gasoline cars.
01:00:39.000 What are your feelings on solar?
01:00:41.000 Solar, you probably don't know this, but for every square foot on the earth, the sun, natural sun, advancing the sun's light, gives between 10,000 and 13,000 times more energy than the planet needs.
01:01:01.000 10,000 to 13,000 for every square foot just from the sun.
01:01:05.000 Whoa, wait a minute.
01:01:06.000 Hold on.
01:01:07.000 Let me sort that out.
01:01:09.000 So what you mean is if you put solar panels on every square foot, you'd have 10 to 13 times more than the planet needs.
01:01:18.000 Yes, Einstein.
01:01:19.000 Correct.
01:01:20.000 But you wouldn't really put solar panels over the whole planet.
01:01:23.000 So in order to be able to power a city...
01:01:27.000 What would you have to do?
01:01:28.000 Well, I mean a city like, let's say, the Valley.
01:01:32.000 How dare you call me Einstein, by the way.
01:01:33.000 Okay.
01:01:34.000 The Valley.
01:01:35.000 The Valley.
01:01:36.000 Right.
01:01:36.000 Okay, you'd need solar panels that would cover from downtown Los Angeles to San Diego.
01:01:45.000 Jesus Christ.
01:01:46.000 And that's under current solar technologies.
01:01:48.000 And it's gotten much less expensive to do that.
01:01:52.000 Right.
01:01:52.000 Because then you've got to sell the stuff into the grid.
01:01:54.000 Right.
01:01:55.000 The grid meaning the power thing, like, what's the power thing up here?
01:02:00.000 Whatever the power company, electric company is.
01:02:02.000 So you sell into the grid, and they will tell you, when the government was giving subsidies, they were paying like 18 to 20 cents per kilowatt.
01:02:12.000 Now they're paying 2 to 3 cents.
01:02:14.000 So people invested.
01:02:16.000 Schmucks, banks, lend out... 0.56
01:02:18.000 Schmucks, huh? 0.88
01:02:19.000 Schmucks. 1.00
01:02:20.000 We lent out hundreds of billions of dollars to these solar guys because at the 13 to 18 cents a megawatt, and then supply, then we had too much supply because everybody's doing it, and drove down the price. 0.98
01:02:35.000 So now these poor bastards that started these solar deals 15, 20 years ago can't make any money. 0.84
01:02:41.000 So they can't pay off their debt. 0.98
01:02:42.000 The guys that benefit the most from solar are the farmers that own the land that lease to the solar companies.
01:02:51.000 So it's another one of those unlimited growth things where they felt like it was 10 cents back then per kilowatt and it's eventually going to be 20 and they thought it was going to go up and instead it went down.
01:02:59.000 And why did it go down?
01:03:01.000 Because oversupply.
01:03:02.000 Because everybody gets on a good thing and then they make it bad.
01:03:05.000 But when you say you sell it back to the grid, there's also ways to do it to be off the grid, right?
01:03:10.000 Correct.
01:03:10.000 You'd have to do a different system?
01:03:11.000 Yeah, yeah, there are.
01:03:12.000 There are.
01:03:13.000 And a lot of, you know, very bright guy put together tax incentive deals in the Britain.
01:03:20.000 They call them schemes that, you know, took advantage of the system.
01:03:26.000 Right now in Germany, for example, Germany has 20, 25 year contracts.
01:03:32.000 And the government wasn't any smarter.
01:03:33.000 They gave you a 25-year contract at a guarantee 11 cents.
01:03:38.000 Okay?
01:03:39.000 Now, into the grid, it's only 3 cents.
01:03:41.000 Right.
01:03:42.000 So they've got to pay you off the difference between 3 and 11. Right.
01:03:47.000 So the contract's up, and then once it's up, everybody's screwed. 0.98
01:03:50.000 Everybody's screwed. 0.98
01:03:51.000 Wow. 0.94
01:03:53.000 Now, do you think that it's a viable way to power a city?
01:03:57.000 Yeah, it is.
01:03:58.000 But I think it's a mix.
01:03:59.000 You need a mix.
01:04:00.000 Really?
01:04:01.000 Not just solar.
01:04:02.000 Under current technological standards.
01:04:04.000 Solar, wind, and hydrocarbons.
01:04:07.000 Yeah, we were in somewhere filming something for Fear Factor once, and they had one of those windmill farms.
01:04:12.000 It was the craziest thing ever.
01:04:14.000 It was like a bunch of robots that were up on this hill.
01:04:17.000 Crazy.
01:04:17.000 We're spinning around I was like you get they're getting electricity from these wind robots like how fucking weird is this and each one of those deals Costs roughly speaking a million dollars Wow each one And the technology Has come a long long way in the 30 or 40 years that they've had those wind wind deals.
01:04:36.000 Yeah, but Supposedly, the wind currents don't change.
01:04:42.000 Mm-hmm.
01:04:43.000 Wrong.
01:04:43.000 Wrong.
01:04:44.000 They do change.
01:04:45.000 Uh-oh.
01:04:45.000 Okay?
01:04:46.000 And so you've built a hundred of these windmills facing a certain way.
01:04:50.000 Right.
01:04:50.000 Okay?
01:04:51.000 And then the wind changes, for whatever reason.
01:04:55.000 Now, another thing you're going to hear first.
01:04:57.000 In 2011, my wife and I had our vows renewed at the South Pole, Magnetic South Pole.
01:05:04.000 We married there.
01:05:05.000 And they have a huge $500 million scientific research lab, most of which is paid for by the United States government.
01:05:13.000 So we're down there and we're talking to all the goofball scientists running around in shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops, and it's 40 below zero.
01:05:21.000 Okay, because the sun never goes down.
01:05:23.000 This was December.
01:05:25.000 And so they're giving us a presentation and they're bringing out these cores of ice.
01:05:29.000 Cores of ice.
01:05:30.000 And they get to the second or third core.
01:05:32.000 And then he says, this core is 55,000 years old.
01:05:35.000 And of course, how do you know that?
01:05:36.000 Anyway, they explained.
01:05:38.000 And he said, 13,000 years ago, this was the temperature.
01:05:42.000 14,000 and 55,000 years ago, it was two degrees warmer Celsius than it is today.
01:05:48.000 And then he goes, what?
01:05:49.000 Stop.
01:05:50.000 55,000 years ago, it was two degrees warmer than it is today.
01:05:56.000 And I said, what about global warming?
01:06:00.000 Simultaneously, all 10 scientists started laughing.
01:06:04.000 All ten PhDs from MIT, Caltech, Stanford started laughing.
01:06:09.000 Why'd they laugh?
01:06:10.000 Because global warming is a joke.
01:06:13.000 How's global warming a joke?
01:06:14.000 I'm just telling you what they said.
01:06:16.000 It was warmer two degrees Celsius 55,000 years ago.
01:06:18.000 Right, but that's 55,000 years ago.
01:06:19.000 Well, if you go back 65 million years ago, it was considerably warmer then.
01:06:22.000 I understand that, but what they were saying is that it's cyclical.
01:06:25.000 Right, it certainly is.
01:06:26.000 It's going to be colder again.
01:06:27.000 But I don't think that's the argument.
01:06:28.000 The argument is whether or not we're contributing to this cyclical...
01:06:30.000 Well, I'm sure we are.
01:06:31.000 Yeah.
01:06:32.000 Yeah, but I mean, if we wait 10,000 years, there won't be any global warming.
01:06:36.000 It'll go back to cold.
01:06:38.000 Correct.
01:06:38.000 And the people, your descendants...
01:06:41.000 My descendants, if they're around 10,000 years from now, will read about that...
01:06:46.000 Who are those guys that believed in global warming?
01:06:48.000 So you think that people are being hysterical about a natural cycle that we probably are...
01:06:53.000 We're probably helping it along?
01:06:56.000 We're helping it along, but it's a natural cycle.
01:06:58.000 But it's going to come back around anyway.
01:06:59.000 Correct.
01:06:59.000 Another point.
01:07:00.000 If global warming were for real...
01:07:02.000 I mean, real, real, real, it's going to happen...
01:07:04.000 Well, it is real, right?
01:07:04.000 No, no, no.
01:07:05.000 I mean, it's going to happen in the next 20, 30 years, let's say.
01:07:09.000 Florida...
01:07:10.000 Most of Central America, a whole bunch of the world is going to be gone because they'll be underwater.
01:07:16.000 Right.
01:07:16.000 Depending on, you know, the most severe is 30 meters of water, that's 100 feet.
01:07:22.000 The less severe is 10 meters of water, 30 feet.
01:07:25.000 Okay.
01:07:25.000 If that were the case and you were building condominiums in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, there should be a disclaimer in the prospectus.
01:07:34.000 There should be a disclaimer.
01:07:35.000 The next big wave of class action lawsuits, if global warming happens in the next 20 to 50 years, is going to be the disclaimers that were not written in an investment prospecti for condominiums, buildings, everywhere.
01:07:48.000 Manhattan's gone.
01:07:49.000 You know, London's gone.
01:07:51.000 Well, that's only under severe forecast, right?
01:07:55.000 Severe forecast of global warming?
01:07:56.000 The best forecast is it's going to be 10 meters, which is 30 feet.
01:08:00.000 That's the best forecast?
01:08:01.000 That's the best forecast.
01:08:01.000 And that's over how many years?
01:08:03.000 50. So you don't think that's going to happen?
01:08:07.000 I'm not likely to be here 50 years from now, so I'm not a concern. 0.99
01:08:09.000 You're looking pretty good, dude, if they keep replacing shit. 0.96
01:08:12.000 Yeah, well, my goal is 120. What are you at right now? 0.93
01:08:17.000 I'll be 72 in a few weeks.
01:08:18.000 You look great.
01:08:19.000 Yeah, thank you.
01:08:20.000 You get a lot of pep to you.
01:08:21.000 Yeah.
01:08:22.000 But I'm happy because I'm enjoying doing what I do.
01:08:26.000 Do you realize 87% Gallup poll came out last year and said 87% of the people on the planet are unhappy with what their life is all about?
01:08:35.000 And 10% in addition to that, 87 to 97, hate what they do.
01:08:41.000 So that leaves 3% of the planet enjoy what they do.
01:08:46.000 You're one of three percent. 0.99
01:08:47.000 Fuck, I'm one of the one hundred millionth of a percent. 1.00
01:08:49.000 I'm so happy I don't know whether to shit or go blind. 1.00
01:08:52.000 Well, you shouldn't do the second part. 1.00
01:08:55.000 Everybody should shit. 1.00
01:08:55.000 Go blind or shit? 1.00
01:08:56.000 Yeah, don't go blind. 1.00
01:08:57.000 No, no.
01:08:57.000 I don't think that makes you happier.
01:08:58.000 Well... 1.00
01:08:59.000 Sometimes you have to take shit. 1.00
01:09:00.000 They're going to figure out how to give me new eyes. 1.00
01:09:02.000 They are, right?
01:09:03.000 Yeah.
01:09:03.000 Do you think they're going to figure out how to give you new eyes or do you think they're going to figure out how to shoot some stem cells in your eyes or rejuvenate them?
01:09:09.000 Well, I want to hear after the program about the stem cells in Vegas. 0.98
01:09:12.000 Yeah, they've got a lot of crazy shit going on. 0.97
01:09:14.000 They're doing discs now. 0.99
01:09:15.000 They are just starting.
01:09:17.000 I talked to Dr. Davidson from the UFC and they're beginning trials.
01:09:20.000 I think they were going to do it this Monday.
01:09:23.000 So, past Monday, a couple of days ago, where they're going to shoot stem cells directly into discs of people with degenerative disc disease, where their discs are shrinking because of compression of the spine and, you know, just overall life and wearing down.
01:09:36.000 They're going to be able to regenerate disc tissue.
01:09:38.000 Well, what's the story about, I read a couple days ago, a transgender guy broke the eye socket of a girl in an MMA fight.
01:09:49.000 I don't know about that.
01:09:50.000 Is that a recent fight?
01:09:51.000 Yeah, I mean just the last 48 hours.
01:09:53.000 I don't know about that.
01:09:54.000 Okay, and they're complaining because it's not really a girl.
01:09:58.000 It's a guy.
01:09:59.000 And he was just overpowered and he just...
01:10:02.000 No, I've never heard of a broken eye socket in one of those fights.
01:10:05.000 Broken eye sockets are really common.
01:10:06.000 Oh, okay.
01:10:07.000 I didn't know that.
01:10:08.000 Broken eye sockets, broken orbitals.
01:10:10.000 Very, very common.
01:10:11.000 If you get punched or kicked or elbowed really hard in the eyeball, which sounds horrible to people, but you get a blowout fracture where you actually blow out the bone in the back of the eyeball.
01:10:21.000 So they have to literally take your eye out and they have to go behind it, repair.
01:10:26.000 Usually sometimes they have to put like a little plate or something that...
01:10:29.000 It puts the bone back together in the back of your eye.
01:10:32.000 Put your eye back in.
01:10:33.000 And sometimes when guys do get those kind of orbital fractures, they have these weird eyes.
01:10:38.000 Like the one eye that pokes forward more and the other eye looks weird.
01:10:42.000 Very dangerous sport.
01:10:43.000 Very dangerous sport.
01:10:44.000 You know, it's just, obviously, it's a combat sport.
01:10:47.000 The goal is to smash each other. 0.97
01:10:49.000 Yeah, I've been pretty vocal about, there was a pretty famous case of a guy who had been a guy for 30 years, became a woman for two years, you know, or, you know, went transgender, whatever you want to call it, and started fighting MMA and wasn't telling these women that she used to be a man for 30 fucking years. 0.98
01:11:06.000 And I was like, well, that's crazy.
01:11:07.000 Like, if you tell people and they still want to fight, that's fine.
01:11:10.000 I think you should be able to do whatever you want to do, just like I think you should be able to ride a bull.
01:11:13.000 You know, I support your right to ride a bull.
01:11:15.000 You want to ride a bull?
01:11:16.000 I'm not telling you you shouldn't do it.
01:11:17.000 Because I don't... 0.99
01:11:18.000 Who the fuck am I to tell you that you shouldn't jump out of buildings and skydive? 0.99
01:11:22.000 Or jump out of planes, rather. 0.99
01:11:24.000 Or jump off cliffs with one of those wingsuits like my friend Andy does.
01:11:28.000 You should be able to do whatever you want to do, as long as you're informed.
01:11:31.000 But this idea that...
01:11:33.000 It's not something that you need to tell the other person about because now you're a woman. 1.00
01:11:37.000 I say that's bullshit. 0.99
01:11:38.000 You're biologically a man. 1.00
01:11:40.000 You were born a man.
01:11:41.000 You have an XY chromosome. 0.74
01:11:42.000 You have all sorts of mechanical advantages.
01:11:44.000 You have a different bone structure. 0.99
01:11:46.000 It's not the fucking same. 1.00
01:11:47.000 And if these people want to continue this crazy narrative that once you decide that you identify with being a woman, you should be able to compete as a woman, it's fucking crazy. 0.99
01:11:58.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98
01:12:16.000 It's just not fair.
01:12:17.000 What happened to the girl...
01:12:18.000 And it's not her fault, by the way.
01:12:20.000 That kid... 1.00
01:12:20.000 It's the fucking... 1.00
01:12:21.000 The people that live there want her to compete as a girl. 1.00
01:12:25.000 And if that's the case, you shouldn't allow her to be competing while she's taking testosterone. 1.00
01:12:28.000 It's real simple.
01:12:29.000 And if she wants to compete as a boy, let her compete as a boy. 0.83
01:12:32.000 Or let him compete as a boy.
01:12:33.000 In your opinion, what happened to the young girl that was...
01:12:37.000 Ronda Rousey?
01:12:38.000 Yes. 0.84
01:12:38.000 The Olympian girl that, you know, all of a sudden went from the penthouse to the shithouse. 0.84
01:12:44.000 A lot of things.
01:12:45.000 It's a long, long story.
01:12:48.000 She was great.
01:12:48.000 I mean, I was a big follower of her.
01:12:49.000 Amazing judo practitioner and dominant like no one else ever in women's MMA up to that point, in the UFC at least. 0.86
01:12:59.000 But...
01:13:00.000 There was some holes in her approach that were exposed by Holly Holm, the one who knocked her out, the girl who had kicked her. 1.00
01:13:06.000 Holly had the perfect style to deal with Ronda's style. 1.00
01:13:09.000 She's really strong, she's fast, she's an amazing athlete, and she is an outstanding striker. 0.99
01:13:15.000 And so Ronda's thing was to charge at you like a fucking bull. 1.00
01:13:18.000 And Holly just played the matador brilliantly, caught her, lit her up while she was coming in, and then eventually head kicked her and stopped her. 1.00
01:13:25.000 Once you get knocked out like that, first of all, she was very, very confident while she was the champion.
01:13:31.000 And some people would say arrogant.
01:13:33.000 And because of that, there's all these people that are waiting for you to fall.
01:13:36.000 There's a lot of people out there that don't have much confidence.
01:13:38.000 And when they see someone who's out there who's got a lot of confidence, it's very compelling.
01:13:42.000 Like a Floyd Mayweather or like a Conor McGregor.
01:13:45.000 Their confidence is incredibly compelling.
01:13:47.000 Like you want to be near them.
01:13:49.000 But those people, when that person loses, they're the first ones to attack. 1.00
01:13:54.000 They're like, yeah, you fucking loser. 1.00
01:13:56.000 I knew you were a loser. 1.00
01:13:57.000 Like, you go to Ronda Rousey's Instagram page and read the comments under her pictures. 1.00
01:14:01.000 It's ruthless. 1.00
01:14:02.000 Some fucking assholes. 1.00
01:14:04.000 Just assholes. 1.00
01:14:05.000 And I guarantee you, all those people are severely unaccomplished. 1.00
01:14:09.000 Or really young. 0.99
01:14:11.000 Either young kids that don't understand what they're doing, they just have this opportunity to be able to talk shit, or they're a bunch of fucking losers and they're finding this opportunity to shit on someone who was this incredible, bright, shining star that fizzled out. 0.99
01:14:24.000 So she lost to Holly Holm and then she came back in a Far worse matchup against Amanda Nunes. 1.00
01:14:30.000 And I thought Nunes, before Holly Holm beat her, I thought Nunes was the most dangerous matchup for her.
01:14:35.000 Because Amanda Nunes is a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt and she has heavy, heavy hands. 1.00
01:14:39.000 She's a dangerous striker. 1.00
01:14:40.000 And I was like, Ronda's going to have to close the distance in order to grab her and take her to the ground. 1.00
01:14:43.000 And when she does, it's no fucking picnic. 0.99
01:14:45.000 Because Amanda Nunes is nasty on the ground. 1.00
01:14:48.000 And then getting close to her, she's got knockout power with her hands. 1.00
01:14:51.000 I mean, this is a terrible, terrible matchup.
01:14:53.000 And it turned out to be right because she got knocked out in 48 seconds in the rematch. 1.00
01:14:56.000 But what she should have done is revamp her camp or not fight.
01:15:01.000 Revamp.
01:15:02.000 Go to one of the masters.
01:15:04.000 There's a few masters of mixed martial arts in this world.
01:15:06.000 There's Farah Zahabi and Matt Hume and Duke Rufus.
01:15:09.000 There's a few of these striking mixed martial arts masters.
01:15:12.000 And you have to go to them.
01:15:14.000 I think?
01:15:33.000 The women's bantamweight division and became this dominant force and stopped all these people and looked invincible All those women were coming up below her and they were they were getting better and they were evolving and they were like the rest of MMA They were reaching this incredibly high level whereas the women's MMA movement and then in the early days You know three four years ago if you watch women's MMA the skill level was nowhere near commensurate with the men's skill level Like,
01:15:59.000 the men's skill level, three, four years ago, they're better today, but only a little bit better.
01:16:04.000 But the women are way better today than they were, because it's a new thing. 1.00
01:16:07.000 It's like 1997 for mixed martial arts, for men.
01:16:12.000 That's what, like, three or four years ago was.
01:16:14.000 But now, the women have essentially pretty much caught up, or close to it. 0.85
01:16:18.000 There's very high-level striking, very high-level submissions, very high-level fluid overall mixed martial arts games that you're seeing in the women's division.
01:16:26.000 And Rhonda, in a lot of ways, as spectacular as she was, had a very limited approach. 1.00
01:16:32.000 She didn't kick. 1.00
01:16:33.000 She punched, but she wasn't necessarily like the most brutal knockout puncher. 1.00
01:16:38.000 And she wasn't necessarily the most skillful boxer.
01:16:41.000 She didn't really have a tremendous amount of experience.
01:16:43.000 What she had was incredible athleticism, a world-class mindset. 0.60
01:16:47.000 She was a world-class athlete.
01:16:49.000 You know, she's a former Olympian and outstanding judo. 0.99
01:16:52.000 Her judo and her arm bars are amongst the best in the world.
01:16:55.000 I share her transitions, the way she attacks and attacks and attacks and sets things up.
01:16:59.000 She's phenomenally talented and really accomplished in judo. 0.66
01:17:05.000 But when you want to be a world mixed martial arts champion at the highest level of the game, now you have to be great at everything.
01:17:12.000 There's people like Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson, who I think is the best fighter in the world.
01:17:16.000 He's amazing. 0.98
01:17:17.000 That guy's great at everything, and that's why he's the best, because you don't know what the fuck he's gonna do. 0.99
01:17:21.000 You don't know if he's gonna kick you, or knee you, or take you down, or strangle you, or elbow you. 0.97
01:17:27.000 He's just got so many options, and he's coming at you from all different directions, and he never gets tired.
01:17:32.000 He's the total full package.
01:17:34.000 We don't have a Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson in women's MMA yet, but it's coming. 0.95
01:17:38.000 It's coming.
01:17:39.000 And Ronda's not that. 0.99
01:17:41.000 You know, Ronda's more like... 0.55
01:17:43.000 Maybe like a Chuck Liddell or one of the early pioneers of men's MMA. Super talented, really fun to watch, but perhaps limited in their approach.
01:17:53.000 Yeah, I used to enjoy...
01:17:54.000 Well, I enjoy Mighty Miles, now that you mentioned him.
01:17:56.000 He's incredible.
01:17:57.000 He's incredible.
01:17:58.000 You know, and there's so many of them now.
01:18:01.000 I mean, it's just...
01:18:01.000 This sport is just exploding.
01:18:03.000 It's exploding with talent.
01:18:04.000 Has it changed since they sold?
01:18:06.000 Well, it has a little bit.
01:18:07.000 It's trying to, like, refine itself, I think.
01:18:09.000 But the guys who sold it, or the guys who bought it, rather...
01:18:12.000 You know, they're savvy, intelligent dudes who are trying to do it their way, and there's going to be some bumps along the way.
01:18:19.000 They've made a lot of changes, and they're trying to do some things differently, and some of the things I agree with.
01:18:23.000 Like, now I have a three-man booth.
01:18:26.000 Like, it's me and a fighter, and then the play-by-play commentator, which we've done a couple times, so I think it's really good.
01:18:31.000 I like it.
01:18:33.000 They've got a lot of matchups that have fallen through, unfortunately, because of weight cut issues and a bunch of other stuff.
01:18:41.000 It's a tough business, man.
01:18:42.000 I wouldn't want to be a promoter.
01:18:44.000 What I do is easy.
01:18:46.000 I just show up and things are happening.
01:18:47.000 I talk about the things that are happening.
01:18:49.000 I don't have to do a lot of work to get there.
01:18:53.000 I just kind of get there and I watch and I talk about the fights.
01:18:57.000 The promoting angle of it is unbelievably brutal. 0.88
01:19:00.000 You have to rely on so many people to do their job, so many people to have their shit together. 0.81
01:19:04.000 You gotta rely on these crazy, impulsive maniacs known as MMA fighters to get their weight in order and to have their camp go through without severely injuring themselves and to do things smartly and intelligently and conservatively so that they can show up for the dance and be able to perform at their best. 0.86
01:19:20.000 You know, you're asking a lot of a lot of different people.
01:19:23.000 And most of them come through.
01:19:24.000 You know, most fighters are incredibly professional.
01:19:27.000 But some of them don't, like that Habib Nurmagomedov-Tony Ferguson fight that fell through a couple weeks ago, or last week.
01:19:33.000 Horrible.
01:19:34.000 Just devastating that we were, you know, we were all ready for that fight, and then the day of the fight, he can't make, the day of the weigh-ins, rather, he can't make the weight, and they sent him to the hospital.
01:19:43.000 So those kind of things do happen.
01:19:45.000 These guys that are running it now, the WME guys, you know, they're smart as hell.
01:19:49.000 So we'll just see.
01:19:51.000 They'll figure it out.
01:19:52.000 That's what I think.
01:19:53.000 I think they'll take a little while.
01:19:55.000 There'll be a little bit of trial and error.
01:19:58.000 Just understandable.
01:19:59.000 I mean, they spent $4 billion on the UFC. They're going to want to run it their way.
01:20:03.000 I get that.
01:20:04.000 It's an incredible investment. 0.95
01:20:06.000 I don't know how the fuck they're going to make that money back.
01:20:08.000 You're a smart financial guy. 0.94
01:20:10.000 How the hell do they make that money back? 0.99
01:20:13.000 Oh, Jesus damn, Pena. 0.99
01:20:15.000 Why did you do that? 0.99
01:20:17.000 It's not likely.
01:20:18.000 No?
01:20:19.000 The way I would do it is I would take it public.
01:20:23.000 Ah, is that how you make your money back?
01:20:25.000 I mean, it's a no-brainer.
01:20:25.000 You heard it here first on Joe's show.
01:20:28.000 Take it public.
01:20:29.000 And if they take it public?
01:20:31.000 They can make 50% on their money in a week.
01:20:33.000 I mean, a week after they take it public because the average investor pays up too much.
01:20:40.000 They pay up high multiples.
01:20:42.000 And the difference between a non-liquid investment and a liquid investment, the multiples are normally 50% to 100%.
01:20:50.000 Higher.
01:20:51.000 You just lost me.
01:20:52.000 Talking Chinese.
01:20:53.000 Okay.
01:20:54.000 Let's just say they bought it at 20 times earnings.
01:20:56.000 Okay.
01:20:57.000 Okay.
01:20:57.000 4 billion equated to 20 times earnings.
01:20:59.000 Right.
01:21:00.000 So that means 20 times per annual earnings?
01:21:02.000 Yeah.
01:21:02.000 Yeah.
01:21:02.000 That's correct.
01:21:03.000 So they take it public, the investment public, the schmucks that buy stocks on the New York Stock Exchange will give you 40 times. 0.98
01:21:10.000 They will? 0.98
01:21:11.000 Yes.
01:21:11.000 Huh.
01:21:12.000 Why don't they do that then?
01:21:13.000 Well...
01:21:14.000 What's the problem with taking things public?
01:21:15.000 Well, they lose control.
01:21:16.000 Oh.
01:21:17.000 It depends on how much of the stock are they going to sell.
01:21:21.000 Right.
01:21:21.000 Are they going to sell 10%?
01:21:22.000 They're certainly not going to sell 50.1% because then they lose total control.
01:21:25.000 Right.
01:21:26.000 Then they also have to adhere to the SEC, Security Exchange Commission.
01:21:30.000 There's rules.
01:21:32.000 And they have to have...
01:21:34.000 Audited statements every 90 days.
01:21:37.000 And if they gave you too much money for expenses and it's down there as a footnote, they're going to come and investigate.
01:21:44.000 Why'd you give Rogan that?
01:21:46.000 Why'd you do that?
01:21:47.000 And most people don't want to go public because of that.
01:21:49.000 I went public because I could see that I was going to make a thousand times my money.
01:21:55.000 I mean, not even a hundred thousand times my money.
01:21:57.000 So it was a no-brainer.
01:21:58.000 You made a hundred thousand times your money by going public?
01:22:02.000 Well, it's actually better than that.
01:22:06.000 Jamie, we need to take this podcast public.
01:22:08.000 Okay, I grew at 67,000% a year. 0.96
01:22:11.000 What the fuck does that even mean? 0.86
01:22:13.000 How is that even possible? 0.90
01:22:14.000 My total growth on my original investment was 55 million percent.
01:22:21.000 Jesus Christ.
01:22:23.000 That's a lot of money.
01:22:24.000 And there hasn't been Facebook nor anybody else, anybody even close.
01:22:28.000 But unfortunately for me, because it was 25 years ago, I was at a low base.
01:22:33.000 My base was only half a million.
01:22:35.000 Excuse me, 500 million.
01:22:38.000 But now, I mean...
01:22:40.000 What does that mean by your base?
01:22:42.000 In other words, I grew the company from $800 to $500 million.
01:22:47.000 But my base, my initial base was $1,000.
01:22:53.000 My exit base was $500 million.
01:22:56.000 Okay.
01:22:57.000 $500 million.
01:22:58.000 And, of course, I had a lot of shareholders.
01:23:00.000 It wasn't just me.
01:23:01.000 But now, the company grew.
01:23:07.000 If you take $800 and you figure out, you do a spreadsheet on the growth per year at 67,000%, and if you do the total growth, it's 55 million percent.
01:23:17.000 55 million percent.
01:23:19.000 Now, if you were, you're an MMA fan.
01:23:22.000 Yes, I am.
01:23:23.000 If you were going to give advice to the people that own the UFC, what would you tell them?
01:23:26.000 Oh, yeah, Alphabrain.
01:23:28.000 What would you give them?
01:23:30.000 I'd hire somebody like Goldman Sachs.
01:23:34.000 I'd hire more than one.
01:23:35.000 I'd say Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan or somebody like that or Credit Suisse to look at how to make their investment liquid. 0.99
01:23:44.000 Liquid, because now it's frozen like a stiff dick. 0.93
01:23:47.000 I mean, it's not going anyplace. 0.97
01:23:48.000 So what does that mean?
01:23:50.000 Like, how do you make it liquid?
01:23:51.000 Liquid?
01:23:51.000 Okay.
01:23:52.000 Let's just say we're going to take this podcast public.
01:23:54.000 Okay, let's do it.
01:23:55.000 Let's get crazy.
01:23:56.000 Okay, let's get crazy.
01:23:57.000 Now, let's just say that right now you make, let's throw out numbers, a million dollars a year off your podcast, and you have no other shareholders.
01:24:08.000 Okay.
01:24:09.000 Now, you want to take it public, and you want to take it public on one of the secondary or tertiary exchanges, because this wouldn't be big enough to take the New York Stock Exchange.
01:24:18.000 And you want to sell shares in your baby for $1,000 a share.
01:24:23.000 How many shares does one have?
01:24:25.000 Well, as many as you want.
01:24:27.000 Really?
01:24:27.000 So you can make 100 million shares at $1,000 a share?
01:24:30.000 Yeah, but you couldn't equate that much value.
01:24:33.000 But you could do 1,000 shares at $1,000 a share.
01:24:37.000 Okay.
01:24:38.000 And so you sell 20% off to the public.
01:24:41.000 So 20% of those shares are...
01:24:43.000 And I mean, you got millions of people to follow you.
01:24:45.000 I mean, that would be a slam dunk.
01:24:47.000 I mean, it'd be a no-brainer.
01:24:49.000 It'd be a no-brainer.
01:24:50.000 But then a bunch of people would be telling me who to get as guests.
01:24:52.000 No, as long as you got to keep control. 1.00
01:24:55.000 Fuck you. 1.00
01:24:56.000 They would try to get that power, though. 1.00
01:24:58.000 Yeah, they would.
01:24:59.000 But as long as you held, or your group, or your consortium, or you and your buddies held more than 50%, they could never take control.
01:25:08.000 Right.
01:25:09.000 But it seems like that's where hostile takeovers come from, right?
01:25:12.000 Correct.
01:25:12.000 Yeah, people gather up.
01:25:14.000 Oh, you're getting excited there.
01:25:15.000 Yeah, I'm getting excited myself just thinking about it.
01:25:17.000 Hostile takeovers, that's like the ultimate chess move.
01:25:20.000 Then you can just say, okay, we'll meet in the cage.
01:25:23.000 You can put your best guy up, I'll put my best guy up, and then we'll settle it that way.
01:25:25.000 Just like they do in the old days.
01:25:27.000 Instead of the two armies going to war, the best knight from this guy and the best knight from this guy.
01:25:32.000 Right, they duke it out.
01:25:33.000 Who would you pick to defend your honor?
01:25:36.000 My honor?
01:25:36.000 In the cage.
01:25:37.000 I mean, if the other side had a guy, who would you pick?
01:25:41.000 That's a good question.
01:25:42.000 Are we doing weight classes?
01:25:44.000 No, no.
01:25:45.000 Anything goes.
01:25:46.000 This is a heavyweight named Francis Ngannou.
01:25:48.000 I think I might put my money on that guy.
01:25:50.000 Yeah?
01:25:50.000 Terrifying.
01:25:51.000 Young heavyweight.
01:25:52.000 Okay.
01:25:52.000 Yeah.
01:25:53.000 Okay, who would they pick? 0.99
01:25:54.000 Knocks people dead. 0.99
01:25:54.000 Who cares? 0.99
01:25:55.000 Let them pick whoever the fuck they want. 1.00
01:25:57.000 I got Francis. 0.99
01:25:57.000 I used to be a fan of Lesnar. 0.99
01:26:00.000 He's scary.
01:26:01.000 He's scary.
01:26:02.000 If Brock Lesnar got into MMA when he was young, if somebody grabbed him right out of college and really trained him properly, better yet, right out of high school, and trained him properly, just an unbelievable freak athlete.
01:26:15.000 A freak athlete.
01:26:16.000 I remember in the heavyweight match, I forget who was fought, where he had beaten up Lesnar pretty bad, but Lesnar still won the fight.
01:26:24.000 The guy with the big hands.
01:26:25.000 Shane Carwin.
01:26:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:26:27.000 Yeah, Shane Carwin beat the shit out of him in the first round, but he gassed out.
01:26:29.000 And then Brock survived and strangled him in the second.
01:26:32.000 Yeah.
01:26:32.000 Yeah, Brock's a tough guy.
01:26:33.000 And, you know, he just was a guy who got into MMA very late in life and wasn't a natural striker and really didn't have the natural striking capability.
01:26:43.000 When I say natural, I mean like fluid...
01:26:46.000 Really effortless striking that you get when you've been doing it for years and years and years.
01:26:51.000 That's one of the hardest things to learn as guys get older when they're in their 30s and they're learning how to strike.
01:26:56.000 Learning how to strike against someone who's really seasoned and good, there's just going to be these openings and it just takes a few shots. 0.99
01:27:02.000 One, two, three, get in and all of a sudden you're diminished and the leg kick and then the fucking shot to the body and you're hurt. 0.95
01:27:08.000 And then, boom, you saw what happened when he fought Cain Velasquez. 0.99
01:27:10.000 Cain just overwhelmed him.
01:27:12.000 He was just so much better with striking.
01:27:13.000 And really great at wrestling as well.
01:27:15.000 So Cain was able to get back up on his feet when Brock took him down.
01:27:19.000 And then just Brock could not handle the onslaught that Cain was putting on him on the feet.
01:27:24.000 Just wasn't prepared for it correctly.
01:27:26.000 You need years and years and years of striking training.
01:27:29.000 And you need to spar lightly.
01:27:31.000 And you need to develop fluidity in your movements.
01:27:35.000 You need to have efficient striking movements.
01:27:37.000 Now, what's it called?
01:27:38.000 The Pretend Wrestling League?
01:27:42.000 Pro Wrestling?
01:27:42.000 WWE? Yeah, yeah.
01:27:44.000 Okay.
01:27:44.000 Yeah.
01:27:44.000 You know, what's the guy's name?
01:27:46.000 The founder?
01:27:47.000 Vince McMahon?
01:27:47.000 Okay, McMahon.
01:27:48.000 And his wife is now in the cabinet for Trump.
01:27:51.000 Yeah.
01:27:51.000 She got approved.
01:27:52.000 Hilarious.
01:27:53.000 Okay.
01:27:53.000 Yes.
01:27:54.000 Probably is hilarious.
01:27:55.000 But she... 1.00
01:27:56.000 Or not she.
01:27:57.000 They got rich when they went public.
01:28:00.000 Yeah.
01:28:02.000 Yeah.
01:28:02.000 See, they went public.
01:28:03.000 They went public with the WWE. Correct.
01:28:05.000 Yeah.
01:28:05.000 And I was offered...
01:28:07.000 For $50,000 a point, when they first got started, a bunch of buddies of mine in Connecticut were riding in a limo and they showed me a demo tape.
01:28:15.000 And they said, we can get into this.
01:28:17.000 We can buy up to 10% for $50,000 a point.
01:28:19.000 They need money. 1.00
01:28:21.000 I said, bullshit. 1.00
01:28:22.000 Who's going to watch that shit? 1.00
01:28:23.000 Nah! 1.00
01:28:25.000 I feel it the same way.
01:28:27.000 My friend Tony was at, I don't know what they call it, Monday Night Raw, is that what it was, at the Staples Center? 0.99
01:28:32.000 And he was making videos while he was in the audience, and I was like, you gotta be fucking shitting me. 0.99
01:28:36.000 There's 20,000 people in this place. 1.00
01:28:38.000 It's crazy.
01:28:39.000 The numbers are insane.
01:28:41.000 People love that stuff.
01:28:42.000 They love it.
01:28:43.000 They were going nuts.
01:28:43.000 I can't believe it!
01:28:45.000 I don't understand it.
01:28:47.000 He got liquid by going public.
01:28:50.000 How many people do you think that pay $3,000 a month to that guy wind up going to pro wrestling?
01:28:57.000 The same people?
01:28:59.000 The $3,000, yeah.
01:29:01.000 Probably the same people.
01:29:02.000 That's probably like 100% of them are pro wrestling fans.
01:29:05.000 Yeah.
01:29:05.000 Now, does everybody know pro wrestling is not for real?
01:29:08.000 No.
01:29:08.000 No, there's some people that had injuries out there that still think it's real.
01:29:12.000 There's a few people that fell off the back of a motorcycle.
01:29:16.000 I can't believe he won!
01:29:18.000 I thought Brock was number one!
01:29:21.000 This is insane!
01:29:23.000 I like when they come down the ramp and the fire and this and that.
01:29:31.000 They have to be good athletes when they bounce their heads on some of those things and hit them with chairs.
01:29:36.000 They're definitely good athletes.
01:29:37.000 There's no doubt about it. 0.96
01:29:39.000 Those guys are outstanding athletes and it's a fucking really hard way to make a living. 0.97
01:29:43.000 I mean, whatever, say whatever the fuck you want about it being choreographed. 0.98
01:29:47.000 They're still picking each other up and slamming each other on the ground and hitting each other. 0.97
01:29:51.000 That's gotta hurt after a few weeks, few months, few years.
01:29:54.000 Not only that, those guys are on the road, you know, 200 plus days a year doing that.
01:29:59.000 So it is an absolutely brutal business.
01:30:02.000 It's a hard way to make a living.
01:30:03.000 They are tough, tough guys.
01:30:05.000 So they might not be really competing like an MMA fighter is, but there's no doubt about it.
01:30:10.000 They have my respect.
01:30:10.000 Those guys are tough.
01:30:12.000 It's a tough way to make a living.
01:30:14.000 They are earning their money.
01:30:15.000 And I think they're doing it in a way where most people don't even see them earn their money.
01:30:19.000 I mean, they're out in these arenas, you know, they're playing this state and that state, and they're going on the road, and they're slamming each other and throwing each other into the turnbuckle and elbowing each other in the face. 0.98
01:30:29.000 It's fucking hard, man. 0.95
01:30:30.000 That is a hard way to make a living. 0.99
01:30:33.000 And a giant percentage of those guys wind up having problems with pain pills, severe pain in their body, always constantly, you know, back injuries, knee injuries, neck injuries, elbow injuries. 0.96
01:30:44.000 I mean, it's just, it's a fucking brutal way to get paid. 0.95
01:30:48.000 Yeah. 0.96
01:30:48.000 Now, are the MMA guys getting paid big money now? 0.96
01:30:51.000 The best of the best are.
01:30:53.000 The guys like Conor McGregor and Conor McGregor, a lot of the people that fight Conor McGregor, they're making millions.
01:30:57.000 Ronda Rousey, she's making millions.
01:30:59.000 It's just, it's taken a while for the people that are not known very well to be able to make that kind of money.
01:31:07.000 You know, they're not really...
01:31:09.000 You know, it's hard for the average journeyman fighter to not just pay their bills, but to put money away as well.
01:31:16.000 You know, it's just...
01:31:17.000 But it's like that in boxing, too.
01:31:19.000 This is what people don't understand.
01:31:20.000 Boxing, people say, well, Floyd Mayweather made $40 million for that fight.
01:31:24.000 Maybe he did.
01:31:25.000 But Floyd Mayweather is one.
01:31:27.000 There's one Floyd Mayweather.
01:31:28.000 Gennady Golovkin can't sell 200,000 pay-per-view buys.
01:31:32.000 And he's one of the best fighters in the world today.
01:31:35.000 Vasily Lomachenko, same thing.
01:31:36.000 One of the best fighters in the world today.
01:31:38.000 He's not making the kind of money that Conor McGregor's making.
01:31:41.000 So what boxing is, is like you see these very big marquee names, you know, these big famous guys who are making good money.
01:31:48.000 And they make more money than the best UFC guys.
01:31:52.000 Like Manny Pacquiao has made more money than the best UFC guys.
01:31:55.000 But Conor McGregor's nipping at their heels right now.
01:31:58.000 Yeah, Manny used to have a house right around the corner from me.
01:32:01.000 I lived eight years in Manila, one year in China, three years.
01:32:05.000 You lived in Manila?
01:32:05.000 Yeah.
01:32:06.000 Wow, what is that like?
01:32:08.000 If you've got money, it's terrific.
01:32:09.000 Yeah?
01:32:10.000 Is it dangerous?
01:32:11.000 Yeah, my wife had six bodyguards. 0.64
01:32:13.000 Jesus Christ, six?
01:32:14.000 Six, and one of them used to be the bodyguard of the president.
01:32:18.000 Why'd you live there?
01:32:20.000 Why were you living there?
01:32:21.000 I had a thriving business.
01:32:22.000 I still have the thriving business, and we don't live there anymore.
01:32:24.000 Do you play pool?
01:32:25.000 Yeah.
01:32:25.000 Do you?
01:32:26.000 I knew you did.
01:32:27.000 If you live in Manila, you got to play some pool.
01:32:30.000 We lived a year in China, eight years there, three years in India.
01:32:35.000 But when I was interviewing bodyguards, I just want to know, have you got any trigger time?
01:32:40.000 I don't want you just looking pretty. 0.99
01:32:42.000 I mean, have you ever pulled a fucking trigger? 0.99
01:32:43.000 Right. 0.99
01:32:44.000 So all of my wife's bodyguards had pulled triggers before.
01:32:48.000 You know, because you get these guys.
01:32:50.000 I've made the same with CIA or the Secret Service.
01:32:53.000 I mean, have you done anything?
01:32:55.000 Well, that is an important thing.
01:32:58.000 Some would consider maybe, like, there's some people that are more sensitive that would say, well, that's a distasteful thing to even bring up.
01:33:03.000 Like, why is there honor in shooting people?
01:33:05.000 Why is there honor in trigger time?
01:33:06.000 But I think what you were trying to figure out when you went into this big game hunting with handguns thing, whether or not you would pussy out when the moment was there, is because you knew that it's a significant challenge when your life is legitimately on the line.
01:33:21.000 People act different when they think they're gonna die.
01:33:24.000 Yeah.
01:33:25.000 I mean, they just do.
01:33:25.000 They just do.
01:33:26.000 And you find out who you really are versus who you're pretending you are.
01:33:29.000 Absolutely.
01:33:30.000 And I know a lot of brave guys that have pissed their pants.
01:33:32.000 Of course.
01:33:32.000 Yeah.
01:33:33.000 Shit themselves. 1.00
01:33:34.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:33:34.000 But they did what was necessary. 1.00
01:33:36.000 Right.
01:33:36.000 But that moment of truth...
01:33:39.000 Well, that's the old saying that a great man and a weak man have the same fear.
01:33:45.000 Just one responds to it a different way.
01:33:48.000 I raise my kids.
01:33:49.000 It's not what happens to you in life.
01:33:50.000 It's how you react to what happens to you in life.
01:33:52.000 And the millennial kids are... 1.00
01:33:57.000 Pussies! 1.00
01:33:57.000 Say it! 1.00
01:33:58.000 Weenies.
01:33:59.000 They're weenies.
01:33:59.000 Why do you say weenies?
01:34:00.000 I call them vagina brains. 1.00
01:34:01.000 Oh. 0.99
01:34:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:34:02.000 Why is that?
01:34:03.000 They want to get laid. 0.84
01:34:03.000 They don't know how, though. 0.84
01:34:05.000 But isn't a vagina a good thing? 1.00
01:34:06.000 Why would you say a vagina brain? 1.00
01:34:07.000 Well, not if you've got one that has a brain. 0.99
01:34:09.000 Do you realize jellyfish lasted 350 million years without a brain?
01:34:12.000 Yeah, but they don't have Google.
01:34:13.000 You can't find them on Snapchat. 0.98
01:34:15.000 Who gives a fuck about jellyfish? 0.99
01:34:16.000 They sting you. 1.00
01:34:17.000 They're assholes. 1.00
01:34:18.000 You can't even eat them. 1.00
01:34:19.000 No, you can't.
01:34:20.000 You can't even eat jellyfish.
01:34:22.000 No. 1.00
01:34:23.000 Fucking useless. 1.00
01:34:24.000 What do they do? 1.00
01:34:26.000 Pardon?
01:34:26.000 What do they do?
01:34:27.000 What's good is jellyfish?
01:34:28.000 They just float around and they sting other fish to kill them. 1.00
01:34:31.000 Assholes. 1.00
01:34:32.000 Yeah, and they fuck with you when you're at the beach. 1.00
01:34:35.000 Yeah, and there's some weird fucking super ancient life form. 1.00
01:34:38.000 Correct. 0.95
01:34:39.000 350 million years.
01:34:40.000 We've moved past you people.
01:34:41.000 Well, I mean, hopefully we've moved past.
01:34:43.000 Yeah.
01:34:44.000 Hopefully, you know.
01:34:45.000 But they know global warming's a joke, too.
01:34:47.000 The jellyfish, too?
01:34:48.000 Yeah.
01:34:48.000 Oh.
01:34:49.000 Well, this is a thing.
01:34:51.000 I've had this conversation with people before because, you know, if you have anybody on a podcast that is saying anything controversial, like you're saying about global warming, people go, oh my god, can't believe you had a climate change denier on your show.
01:35:03.000 But you're not a climate change denier.
01:35:05.000 No.
01:35:05.000 What you're saying is that it's an exaggerated effect that human beings have had, and regardless of whether or not we had that effect at all, if you look at, like, the end of the Ice Age, you look at all these different monumental changes in the temperature of the United States versus the temperature of the world globally.
01:35:21.000 Globally.
01:35:21.000 It's constantly changing.
01:35:22.000 Yeah.
01:35:23.000 55,000 years ago at the South Pole, magnetic South Pole, it was two degrees Celsius warmer.
01:35:30.000 My wife and I have also been to the Magnetic North Pole.
01:35:32.000 We were married there as well.
01:35:33.000 We're bipolar.
01:35:34.000 Why do you get married in weird spots?
01:35:39.000 For fun?
01:35:40.000 Yeah, for fun.
01:35:40.000 Because it's just crazy.
01:35:41.000 My wife and I have renewed our vows six times.
01:35:43.000 Jesus Christ.
01:35:44.000 You must really love that lady.
01:35:45.000 Well, I do.
01:35:46.000 I do.
01:35:46.000 I do.
01:35:47.000 But the North Pole is...
01:35:49.000 They all look pretty much the same.
01:35:52.000 But most people don't realize the South Pole is on a mountain.
01:35:55.000 So you're at the altitude.
01:35:56.000 You're at between 10,000 and 14,000 feet.
01:35:59.000 What country is the South Pole in?
01:36:02.000 Antarctica.
01:36:03.000 So, Antarctica's the South Pole.
01:36:04.000 It's a mountain.
01:36:05.000 And what's the North Pole?
01:36:06.000 No, the North Pole's just moving ice.
01:36:07.000 Just moving ice.
01:36:08.000 So there's no actual land mass?
01:36:10.000 No, no.
01:36:10.000 So you're just on the ice?
01:36:11.000 And only three to six weeks a year can you actually have a facility to be able to land a chopper and have a ceremony at the North Pole.
01:36:20.000 Is that a normal thing, where people get a ceremony on the North Pole?
01:36:23.000 No, no.
01:36:23.000 Sally and I are...
01:36:25.000 Right now, the Guinness Book of Records is going through the witnesses.
01:36:29.000 We're the only two people ever to be married on both poles.
01:36:33.000 Do you realize the Guinness Book of Records, their scam is they charge you money?
01:36:37.000 How much?
01:36:38.000 Well, to get on the preferred list, a thousand pounds.
01:36:42.000 Hmm.
01:36:43.000 What's that dollars?
01:36:44.000 1,400 bucks, 1,300 bucks.
01:36:46.000 Hmm.
01:36:47.000 Most people don't pay it, and most people don't get in. 1.00
01:36:50.000 So you have to pay money to get on their stupid book? 1.00
01:36:52.000 Correct. 0.99
01:36:52.000 So even if you did something, like say if you jump rope for three days straight, and you made the Guinness Book of World Records, you'd have to pay to get in there. 0.99
01:36:58.000 It'd take you six, seven years to get on.
01:37:00.000 What?
01:37:01.000 Yeah.
01:37:02.000 Why?
01:37:03.000 Because that's their model.
01:37:04.000 That's their economic model.
01:37:05.000 So they just have to make money.
01:37:06.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:37:06.000 What a bunch of fucks. 1.00
01:37:07.000 And this is probably the first time anybody's ever told anybody on a public medium. 0.99
01:37:13.000 We've had like four firsts on this podcast.
01:37:15.000 I'm pretty proud of that.
01:37:16.000 You and me.
01:37:17.000 Yeah?
01:37:19.000 We've had, right?
01:37:20.000 You've said quite a few firsts.
01:37:21.000 Well, I want to say another one.
01:37:23.000 Okay.
01:37:23.000 My pet project right now is trying to put together a veteran program that I'm funding.
01:37:32.000 I put up all the money.
01:37:32.000 I don't want anybody's money.
01:37:33.000 But so far, even though I had one of the world's largest talent agencies, and I had 10 of the top 15 production companies say that vets don't make good TV. Now, they won't say that in public.
01:37:49.000 What do they mean by vets don't make good TV? Veterans don't make good TV unless they're wrestling around in the mud. 1.00
01:37:55.000 That's what I've been told.
01:37:57.000 By some names that you probably know, even.
01:38:00.000 And I've been told by four-star generals, names that, positively, everybody on this podcast would know.
01:38:07.000 I've been told by congressmen, senators.
01:38:10.000 I've been told by TV personalities, moving heads, you know, that all come out for vets.
01:38:17.000 Except when they're asked to do something, and I don't want their money.
01:38:22.000 So what kind of stuff are you talking about, like do something?
01:38:25.000 Okay, well, I mean, will you be on an advisory board saying that putting vets in business after they try to transition from the military to civilian life and try to reduce the 22 vets that commit suicide a day?
01:38:43.000 And on CBS they'll say, yeah, yeah, yeah, but when you ask them to do something, they're not as generous with their time.
01:38:51.000 And I could understand if I was asking them for money.
01:38:55.000 But what I found out, Joe, all these guys, save a few, still need to make a living.
01:39:03.000 And they're not going to get paid for this.
01:39:05.000 So they have less time, pro bono time, and charity time than they let people on when they're on CNBC, etc.
01:39:13.000 Right, I see what you're saying.
01:39:14.000 Okay, so I've been asked to do a documentary expose.
01:39:20.000 I've been asked.
01:39:20.000 I haven't said I was going to do it because I don't really need that kind of publicity.
01:39:23.000 But about this show that I've been trying to do.
01:39:28.000 Now, what is the show?
01:39:29.000 It's called Boots to Suits.
01:39:31.000 Boots to Suits.
01:39:32.000 Okay.
01:39:32.000 So taking them from the military and then teaching them how to be successful in business.
01:39:36.000 And we've had five pilot programs at the castle where I do my seminars with vets.
01:39:42.000 You have a castle?
01:39:44.000 Is that what you're saying?
01:39:45.000 When you say at the castle?
01:39:46.000 Is that your house?
01:39:47.000 Yeah, I live in a 14th century storybook castle. 1.00
01:39:50.000 Get the fuck out of here. 0.94
01:39:51.000 Where is it? 0.99
01:39:52.000 Scotland.
01:39:53.000 You live in Scotland?
01:39:54.000 Yeah, near St. Andrews.
01:39:56.000 Geez, why do you live in Scotland?
01:39:57.000 You live all over the place, man.
01:39:58.000 Because I wanted to be near the home of golf when I retired.
01:40:02.000 I tried to retire in my 30s.
01:40:05.000 And just play golf?
01:40:06.000 Yeah, but it only lasted a couple months.
01:40:09.000 Retirement didn't suit you?
01:40:10.000 No, no.
01:40:10.000 Yeah, you don't seem like a guy that can retire.
01:40:12.000 No, no.
01:40:12.000 It didn't suit me.
01:40:13.000 It doesn't suit me now.
01:40:16.000 I haven't had to work for 37 years.
01:40:19.000 Now, how did you get involved in all this online stuff?
01:40:21.000 Because that's how I found out about you, and I found out about you through Tom Segura.
01:40:25.000 I mean, I got involved online because I own businesses that market online.
01:40:29.000 But you're a great online advice guy.
01:40:32.000 Yeah.
01:40:32.000 Oh, no, no.
01:40:33.000 I mean, five of the top online money producers on the planet I trained.
01:40:38.000 Like, who are the top five guys?
01:40:40.000 Well, Matt Lloyd, Shakir Hussain.
01:40:45.000 I feel like this is like he's telling me about all stars in a sport I don't follow.
01:40:49.000 Pat Popius.
01:40:50.000 Oh, Pat.
01:40:53.000 Shakir, Pat, I know those dudes.
01:40:55.000 No, I don't.
01:40:56.000 These guys make three to seven million a month.
01:41:00.000 Jesus.
01:41:01.000 That's a lot of money.
01:41:02.000 I hope you're paying taxes, boys.
01:41:03.000 Pay that tax.
01:41:04.000 You know, I know one of them for sure believes in no taxation without representation.
01:41:10.000 Oh, one of those guys, huh?
01:41:11.000 Yeah.
01:41:12.000 In fact, almost all of them are that way.
01:41:14.000 Really?
01:41:14.000 Yeah.
01:41:16.000 Yeah.
01:41:17.000 But I trained them, but I didn't train them.
01:41:19.000 You know, I know about impressions and traffic.
01:41:21.000 I understand all that.
01:41:22.000 But when Google changed their algorithms 10, 12 years ago, They used to want 100 guys that produced 100 million online.
01:41:33.000 Now they want 10 million guys that produce 10,000 online.
01:41:40.000 And so that's how they built their platform.
01:41:43.000 And Google is a great tool, but a better tool, in my judgment, for what I do is LinkedIn. 0.99
01:41:51.000 Yeah, LinkedIn is some shit that people from high school always send me. 0.99
01:41:54.000 I'm like, bitch, I'm not joining your LinkedIn page. 1.00
01:41:56.000 Huh? 0.99
01:41:57.000 Are you on LinkedIn?
01:41:58.000 No.
01:41:58.000 No, but I get, like, invitations to join LinkedIn.
01:42:02.000 More than anything I ever get online.
01:42:05.000 Okay.
01:42:05.000 And I don't join.
01:42:07.000 Well, I mean, LinkedIn is a professional thing. 0.87
01:42:10.000 I know, that's why it's ridiculous. 1.00
01:42:11.000 They're sending that crap to me. 0.99
01:42:13.000 But you're professional, even though you pretend not to be. 1.00
01:42:15.000 I pretend?
01:42:17.000 Yes.
01:42:18.000 Interesting.
01:42:18.000 Is that your perception?
01:42:20.000 Yes, it is.
01:42:22.000 Assess me.
01:42:23.000 That's your shtick.
01:42:23.000 Oh, my shtick is that I pretend to not be professional?
01:42:25.000 No, no, no.
01:42:26.000 Your shtick is you pretend to be outside the box when I believe that you're more inside the box than these melonheads listening know or realize.
01:42:36.000 What do you mean by in the box?
01:42:38.000 I mean, you have some—I know you're a libertarian, if my research is correct.
01:42:42.000 Yeah, pretty much.
01:42:43.000 Okay, and I realize—but, I mean, you believe in some real down-to-earth values that are actually in the box that made America great.
01:42:57.000 Would you disagree?
01:42:58.000 Yeah, probably.
01:43:00.000 Define those, like, what do you mean?
01:43:03.000 You've talked about, we've talked briefly about commitment.
01:43:08.000 Focus.
01:43:09.000 Mm-hmm.
01:43:10.000 Hard work.
01:43:11.000 Discipline.
01:43:11.000 Yeah.
01:43:12.000 Yeah, for sure.
01:43:13.000 That's what made this country great.
01:43:13.000 Well, that's what makes people great.
01:43:15.000 Well, okay.
01:43:16.000 Well, people make a country.
01:43:17.000 Comfort.
01:43:17.000 Comfort is not what makes people great.
01:43:18.000 No.
01:43:19.000 And the getting out of your comfort zone is the reason the millennials have such a hard time now.
01:43:23.000 Yeah, they're all sitting on the couch playing video games.
01:43:25.000 And they're still living at home when they're 34 years old.
01:43:28.000 That's true.
01:43:28.000 I can't believe that.
01:43:29.000 Yeah.
01:43:30.000 When I was 18, I couldn't get out of the house quick enough.
01:43:33.000 But don't you think that that's sort of like what we always expect from the fall of civilizations?
01:43:37.000 I mean, that's what we always were taught about Rome, right? 0.99
01:43:39.000 That Rome got to be incredibly gluttonous and then it all collapsed into the way of its own bullshit. 1.00
01:43:44.000 Yeah, correct. 0.98
01:43:44.000 And you don't think that's going to happen to the U.S. or America? 0.98
01:43:48.000 I think it's happening right now.
01:43:50.000 Absolutely.
01:43:50.000 I couldn't agree more.
01:43:51.000 But do you think it can be changed?
01:43:53.000 Can it be turned around?
01:43:54.000 Anything can be changed if we want to do it bad enough or willing to pay the price to action.
01:43:57.000 It's going to be painful.
01:43:59.000 Well, I think people just need to understand that there's consequences.
01:44:02.000 There's consequences that you pay to constantly seeking comfort and avoiding discomfort and avoiding hard work.
01:44:09.000 And those consequences are you're never gonna feel self-realized.
01:44:11.000 You're never gonna feel like you accomplished anything.
01:44:13.000 You're never gonna have this feeling of understanding that Difficulty and struggle and and the ability to push through that is a muscle and you develop that muscle by doing it and once you do you develop a lot of self-satisfaction and you develop peace of mind and you You understand that you can overcome obstacles if you don't have to overcome obstacles You never know whether or not you can like what you're talking about with trigger time Unless you were faced with actual adversity You don't understand how you're gonna feel and how you're gonna react when you overcome that adversity One
01:44:44.000 of the things I believe that I'm the best on the planet in doing is I get you to do what you don't want to do to be what you want to be.
01:44:52.000 What do I need to do?
01:44:53.000 Tell me what to do.
01:44:55.000 This is the first time I've ever met you.
01:44:57.000 You're an enigma inside a...
01:44:59.000 What's that saying?
01:44:59.000 A riddle?
01:45:00.000 Yeah.
01:45:00.000 Wrapped in secret sauce?
01:45:01.000 Correct.
01:45:02.000 Something like that.
01:45:06.000 Hopefully this isn't the last time I'll ever talk to you, but you're an idol to several million people.
01:45:15.000 Those people need help.
01:45:16.000 I'm the wrong guy.
01:45:19.000 Keep moving!
01:45:21.000 These are not the droids you're looking for.
01:45:23.000 Yeah.
01:45:24.000 But what I do, and before they put dirt on me in 50 more years, is I want to minimize people's regrets.
01:45:33.000 Because we all have regrets.
01:45:36.000 And I told you what my three regrets were earlier in your program here.
01:45:40.000 But I mean, to minimize regrets.
01:45:42.000 And the millennials will have a different sort of regrets.
01:45:48.000 Right now, for the past seven or eight years, we've had free money.
01:45:53.000 Interest rates have been free.
01:45:54.000 It's literally free. 0.98
01:45:55.000 A hundred years from now, they're going to say, what the fuck were you doing when they were giving away free money? 0.98
01:45:59.000 I mean, literally. 1.00
01:46:00.000 The people that are listening to this, 20 years from now, their children and grandchildren are going to say, grandma, grandpa, what the fuck were you doing other than having your thumb up your ass during the period of free money? 0.99
01:46:11.000 Now, when you say interest rates are free, are you talking about business loans? 0.99
01:46:14.000 Correct.
01:46:15.000 I mean, it's never going to get, well, it can only go up from here.
01:46:21.000 And Yellen, the head of the Federal Reserve, has already upped them once, and she says, I guess she's going to up them a couple more times.
01:46:28.000 But historically, interest rates ought to be 8, 10, 12, not 2, 3. Right.
01:46:34.000 If you can't make a business proposition work at 2 or 3% interest, so you pay one or two points over that, Which is the vigorous or the interest that they get.
01:46:44.000 I only mean this metaphorically, kids. 1.00
01:46:46.000 You ought to swallow a fucking revolver. 1.00
01:46:49.000 Wow. 1.00
01:46:50.000 Strong words.
01:46:51.000 Because now, if you can't make money now, you ought to jump in front of a bus.
01:46:55.000 Now, when you go and do these seminars...
01:46:58.000 I want to give them at the castle.
01:46:59.000 I don't give seminars around the world anymore.
01:47:00.000 I stopped that in 2000, when the century changed.
01:47:04.000 But you just did this speech for this guy, right?
01:47:06.000 Oh, no!
01:47:06.000 A two-hour speech.
01:47:07.000 That's not a seminar?
01:47:07.000 No, that's not a seminar.
01:47:08.000 I'm just doing a...
01:47:09.000 I guess they'd call it a solid.
01:47:11.000 Okay.
01:47:12.000 Is that the right word?
01:47:13.000 A solid?
01:47:13.000 You're doing a solid?
01:47:14.000 Yeah.
01:47:14.000 Does that mean a favor?
01:47:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:47:16.000 Okay, I'm doing a favor for the guy.
01:47:17.000 But so the seminars are only at the castle.
01:47:20.000 Correct.
01:47:20.000 People have to come to your castle.
01:47:21.000 Correct.
01:47:22.000 And when they do, what do you work on them?
01:47:25.000 Well, they fill out about 120 pages of copious paperwork on them, psychological profiles and a bunch of other stuff.
01:47:32.000 And do you have someone go over that or do you go over that?
01:47:34.000 Personally.
01:47:34.000 And how many people do you do this with?
01:47:36.000 20 to 24 per seminar.
01:47:38.000 Wow.
01:47:39.000 And how many days is a seminar?
01:47:40.000 Eight.
01:47:41.000 Eight days.
01:47:42.000 So the first thing they do...
01:47:44.000 And you have to dress in a suit.
01:47:44.000 You have to dress in a suit.
01:47:45.000 In a suit.
01:47:46.000 And it starts at 8 in the morning and goes till midnight.
01:47:49.000 Jesus Christ.
01:47:50.000 So you're basically going to sleep, getting up, going to work again.
01:47:53.000 Correct.
01:47:53.000 For eight days.
01:47:54.000 Correct.
01:47:55.000 Wow.
01:47:55.000 And they can't use, I have two gymnasiums at the castle, but they can't use a gymnasium unless they earn it.
01:48:02.000 You have to earn it.
01:48:03.000 Yeah, in other words, you have to show me something that you got more than a jellyfish brain.
01:48:09.000 Hmm.
01:48:09.000 The last two seminars didn't have any gym time.
01:48:12.000 No gym time.
01:48:13.000 No.
01:48:14.000 Hmm.
01:48:15.000 No gym time.
01:48:17.000 So they just didn't earn it?
01:48:18.000 Yeah, they didn't earn it.
01:48:19.000 We had only about half of them cried the last seminar.
01:48:22.000 Only half?
01:48:22.000 Only half.
01:48:23.000 How come?
01:48:25.000 The others maybe had a pair.
01:48:27.000 I don't know.
01:48:28.000 When they cry, what are they crying from?
01:48:31.000 The buttons, the emotional buttons.
01:48:33.000 We have two bank accounts in life.
01:48:34.000 You as well.
01:48:35.000 Okay.
01:48:35.000 You as well.
01:48:36.000 We have an emotional bank account and a financial bank account.
01:48:38.000 Okay.
01:48:39.000 Most people are not successful, not because they run out of their financial bank account.
01:48:43.000 They're not successful because they run out of their emotional bank account.
01:48:46.000 Oh, interesting.
01:48:47.000 How so?
01:48:47.000 Okay, I'll explain a little addition to that.
01:48:52.000 People come to me for either they're inspired or desperate.
01:48:56.000 Even the few people that think they're inspired aren't.
01:48:59.000 They're desperate.
01:49:00.000 I'm the last town saloon.
01:49:03.000 You have tried Tony, Grant Cardone, Jay Abraham. 0.99
01:49:08.000 You've tried every motherfucker that walks that tells you it's easy to be successful. 0.99
01:49:12.000 I tell you just the opposite. 1.00
01:49:14.000 It's a motherfucker to be successful. 0.99
01:49:17.000 And so when you come to me and I look through your psychological profile and I measure you day by day, sitting there for 14, 16 hours a day, then you have one hour of private time with me and I go through this, you know, 0.99
01:49:32.000 why you're really here.
01:49:33.000 I ask you, what's the most defining moment in your life up to today?
01:49:36.000 I mean, coming here.
01:49:37.000 What's the most defining moment for your siblings?
01:49:40.000 What's the most defining moment of your parents?
01:49:45.000 Why do you think it's defining?
01:49:47.000 Oh, my dad got out of jail for the last time.
01:49:50.000 We've had convicted murderers at the seminar.
01:49:53.000 Convicted murderers.
01:49:54.000 I did their time.
01:49:56.000 As long as you're not an obvious, and I'll get in trouble for this, obvious cross-dresser, you can come to the seminar. 1.00
01:50:06.000 What would it feel like a non-obvious cross-dresser? 0.76
01:50:08.000 Well, I mean, if you wear your regular clothes, you should be wearing.
01:50:12.000 In other words, if you're a man dressed like a woman, you've got to dress like a man. 0.98
01:50:16.000 But what if you're a man who really looks like a woman, and he's dressed like a woman, and you identify as a woman?
01:50:22.000 I don't see him naked.
01:50:23.000 Okay, as long as you don't see him naked.
01:50:25.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:50:26.000 I understand.
01:50:27.000 You just don't want any disruptions.
01:50:28.000 Correct.
01:50:29.000 You don't want any aberrations, anything that's weird, that gets in the way of what you're trying to teach.
01:50:33.000 It's going to be weird anyway.
01:50:34.000 Right.
01:50:34.000 When you see grown men, bigger than me, sobbing uncontrollably.
01:50:39.000 What causes them this emotional bank account that you were talking about?
01:50:42.000 You have a financial bank account and an emotional bank account.
01:50:45.000 I'll give you an example. 0.96
01:50:47.000 A guy who was raised in a whorehouse. 1.00
01:50:51.000 His mom is a whore. 1.00
01:50:53.000 He knew that his mom was a whore since he was six, seven, eight. 1.00
01:50:57.000 He still lives in the whorehouse. 1.00
01:51:00.000 How old is he? 0.98
01:51:01.000 26. Jesus Christ.
01:51:04.000 How old's his mom?
01:51:06.000 50, I think 50. No, is she like oil? 0.85
01:51:10.000 Or just like price keeps going down per gallon?
01:51:13.000 I don't know, but she's the madam now. 1.00
01:51:15.000 Oh, I see.
01:51:16.000 She's not servicing too many.
01:51:17.000 That's crazy, and he lives there?
01:51:18.000 Yeah.
01:51:19.000 Jesus Christ.
01:51:20.000 Now, what kind of baggage do you think that kid has? 1.00
01:51:21.000 Oh, he's fucked. 1.00
01:51:23.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:51:23.000 Yep. 1.00
01:51:25.000 It's hard.
01:51:25.000 And what was the worst thing you ever saw your mother do?
01:51:29.000 You know, tears are streaming down his cheeks.
01:51:31.000 And I go, he goes, there's too many to count, Mr. Pena.
01:51:36.000 Do you think about it every night?
01:51:37.000 He says, yes.
01:51:38.000 How did you know, Mr. Pena?
01:51:40.000 How do you not know?
01:51:42.000 Exactly.
01:51:43.000 Yeah. 1.00
01:51:43.000 Yeah, and he's successful, the little shit. 1.00
01:51:46.000 Is he? 1.00
01:51:47.000 Yeah.
01:51:47.000 What's he do?
01:51:48.000 He's an engineer.
01:51:51.000 He's rolling up small engineering firms.
01:51:53.000 Wow.
01:51:54.000 That's a hard way to grow up, man.
01:51:56.000 Yep.
01:51:57.000 But I mean, if love got the job done, we'd have a perfect world now.
01:52:03.000 We'd have no wars if love got the job done. 0.99
01:52:05.000 Love doesn't get the fucking job done. 0.98
01:52:07.000 What does get the job done? 0.99
01:52:10.000 Pulling the trigger, taking action, following your dream.
01:52:15.000 So when you have these guys crying, you're just sort of exposing to them what emotional baggage they're carrying around with them that's hindering their professional life?
01:52:25.000 Correct.
01:52:26.000 Well, that amongst a bunch of other stuff, yeah.
01:52:27.000 But that's kind of going to be a good summary.
01:52:30.000 So, by this eight-day pressure cooker that you put these guys through, when you're making them work all day for eight days in a row, you essentially, like, establish, like, this is what it's like to try to be successful.
01:52:42.000 No, no, not just be successful.
01:52:44.000 To be high-performance.
01:52:45.000 My market is to turn people into the top, let's just say the seven billion people on the planet.
01:52:51.000 Right.
01:52:52.000 My market is 700,000.
01:52:54.000 You want to be one of those 700,000 high-performance individuals, you come and see me.
01:53:00.000 I want to go right now.
01:53:01.000 Okay.
01:53:02.000 I'm not even a businessman. 0.98
01:53:03.000 I'm fucking ready. 0.97
01:53:04.000 Last week, the week before last, we made just three announcements of three of our guys. 0.99
01:53:08.000 One guy who is a monkey.
01:53:10.000 You know you were talking about chimpanzees?
01:53:12.000 Yeah.
01:53:12.000 He looks like a chimpanzee.
01:53:13.000 He did a billion dollar deal with Goldman Sachs.
01:53:16.000 He couldn't spell Goldman Sachs or billion.
01:53:19.000 And he did a billion dollar deal.
01:53:21.000 And he actually looks like a chimpanzee.
01:53:25.000 Okay, another guy did a $181 million deal.
01:53:29.000 An Australian.
01:53:31.000 He weighs 200 kilos.
01:53:33.000 That's a lot. 1.00
01:53:34.000 That's a big fucker. 1.00
01:53:35.000 Big fucker. 1.00
01:53:37.000 That's like 400 pounds isn't it? 1.00
01:53:52.000 He got stuck.
01:53:53.000 He couldn't get out.
01:53:53.000 Yeah.
01:53:54.000 How'd you get him out?
01:53:55.000 I wasn't there.
01:53:56.000 My wife said, why aren't we going on the bus with him? 0.98
01:53:58.000 I said, because shit's going to happen and I don't want to be there. 0.98
01:54:01.000 Literally. 0.99
01:54:01.000 Yeah. 0.99
01:54:02.000 Wow.
01:54:02.000 Okay.
01:54:03.000 And another guy, now get this.
01:54:04.000 He had a closing.
01:54:06.000 He came to me when he was 17 years old.
01:54:08.000 He had a closing in Washington, D.C. a few days ago when Sally and I were there.
01:54:12.000 When you close a financial deal, you have to have two sources of ID now because of money laundering, etc.
01:54:18.000 He had a passport.
01:54:20.000 His second source of ID was a driver's permit because he's not old enough to have a driver's license.
01:54:26.000 He had a driver's permit and a passport.
01:54:30.000 He did a three million dollar deal.
01:54:34.000 Jesus.
01:54:35.000 He's a teenager.
01:54:36.000 The reason why teenagers do better is because they have less baggage.
01:54:40.000 That makes sense.
01:54:42.000 They haven't had as much life wearing them down.
01:54:45.000 Not as much scar tissue.
01:54:46.000 Got some scar tissue. 0.99
01:54:47.000 Scar tissue, that's real shit, right? 0.99
01:54:49.000 Now, if you take a kid, 18, that's got physical attributes, you can train him into being an MA guy probably easier than you take a 38-year-old, for sure. 1.00
01:54:57.000 100%, yeah.
01:54:57.000 Yeah, it's almost impossible.
01:54:59.000 Yeah.
01:55:00.000 Well, unless they're a super freak athlete that's been involved in something very physical. 0.83
01:55:03.000 Speaking of super freak athletes, the black guy, Jones? 0.94
01:55:06.000 John Jones?
01:55:07.000 Yeah.
01:55:07.000 Is he still around?
01:55:08.000 Yeah, sure.
01:55:10.000 He's not the guy that got a broken leg.
01:55:13.000 No, that's Anderson Silva.
01:55:14.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:55:15.000 Okay, but didn't Jones finally get beat?
01:55:17.000 Jones has never lost.
01:55:18.000 The only time he lost was he was disqualified in a fight against Matt Hamill where he was dropping. 0.93
01:55:24.000 It's a really stupid rule, but you're not allowed when you're on top of a guy to drop an elbow from the 12 to 6 position. 0.95
01:55:31.000 Yeah, okay. 1.00
01:55:31.000 So he got disqualified, but he beat the fuck out of that guy. 1.00
01:55:33.000 But he's still around.
01:55:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:55:35.000 He's on the suspension right now for testing positive for a banned substance.
01:55:40.000 That's right.
01:55:40.000 And De Silva came back.
01:55:41.000 Anderson Silva came back.
01:55:42.000 That broken leg, I remember seeing that.
01:55:44.000 Yeah.
01:55:44.000 Jesus Christ.
01:55:45.000 That was terrible.
01:55:46.000 That's one of two broken legs I've ever seen like that live.
01:55:49.000 I've seen them on videos before, but being there live...
01:55:51.000 Can you hear it snap?
01:55:52.000 I did not hear it snap, but I saw it give out, and I saw him fall down, and I knew what it was.
01:55:57.000 The first time I'd ever seen it was a guy named Corey Hill.
01:56:00.000 He threw this kick, and same thing.
01:56:01.000 His kick got checked, and his legs just snapped out from under him.
01:56:06.000 And that time, the referee didn't see it.
01:56:08.000 The referee didn't know the guy had a broken leg.
01:56:09.000 And we were screaming at the referee to stop the fight.
01:56:13.000 It was...
01:56:13.000 I was at Mike Tyson's when he won the championship in Vegas.
01:56:17.000 Oh, really?
01:56:18.000 Wow.
01:56:18.000 And I was in the third row, and De Niro and a bunch of the Italian guys were behind me, DeVito.
01:56:24.000 And he was...
01:56:25.000 Well, the guy that lost...
01:56:28.000 That he looked like he was going to lose.
01:56:29.000 He looked afraid of Tyson.
01:56:31.000 Yeah.
01:56:31.000 But Tyson was hitting with such velocity, the perspiration on the guy's head was flying over the first two rows onto me in the third row.
01:56:40.000 I mean, he was hitting like a sledgehammer.
01:56:42.000 Yeah, when he was in his prime, he was something special.
01:56:44.000 He really was.
01:56:45.000 It was a really interesting article I just read about him in Sports Illustrated.
01:56:48.000 It's fascinating seeing him now at 50 years old, you know, family man, doing his Vegas show.
01:56:54.000 I bet you can still hit. 1.00
01:56:55.000 Oh, fuck yeah! 1.00
01:56:56.000 There was a video of him hitting the bag. 1.00
01:56:58.000 Still terrifying.
01:56:59.000 I mean, he's still Mike Tyson.
01:57:01.000 Yeah.
01:57:01.000 And one of the greatest boxers of all time.
01:57:04.000 The most fearsome heavyweight that ever lived.
01:57:06.000 In his prime, there was nobody like him.
01:57:08.000 Yeah, I was on a concord with Muhammad Ali, and he had his...
01:57:17.000 Angelo Dundee, is that the guy?
01:57:19.000 He had his entourage with him.
01:57:20.000 And he was a very nice man, very nice.
01:57:24.000 I only met him that one time.
01:57:26.000 And that's not true.
01:57:28.000 I was in the Cotton Club in 1978. Cotton Club, black nightclub used to be.
01:57:32.000 And there was a black comedian, and I was trying to...
01:57:38.000 Red Fox?
01:57:39.000 Red Fox.
01:57:41.000 And I'm the only white guy in the audience.
01:57:44.000 And he said something about white people.
01:57:47.000 So I had been tuned up pretty good and back in 78 I thought it was pretty tough.
01:57:51.000 I stood up and I said something back to him.
01:57:53.000 Now this went over like a turd in a punch bowl.
01:57:56.000 I mean all these people that are around me all The color of Fox.
01:58:02.000 And so Fox says, hey, you don't want to come up here.
01:58:05.000 And so I go, and then Muhammad Ali was sitting about six tables over, and he protected me.
01:58:10.000 He said, we got to let this white boy alone.
01:58:13.000 I mean, we don't want a problem here.
01:58:15.000 So then I say, well, you don't have to protect me. 1.00
01:58:18.000 I just was an idiot. 1.00
01:58:19.000 Just a silly young man. 1.00
01:58:20.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98
01:58:21.000 And I tried to pay the bill, and Muhammad Ali says, no, your money's not good here.
01:58:26.000 Your money's not good.
01:58:28.000 And they kicked you out?
01:58:28.000 Oh, no.
01:58:29.000 Yeah, not forcibly, but...
01:58:31.000 But they essentially let you know.
01:58:33.000 Tonight's over.
01:58:33.000 Yeah, the night's over.
01:58:34.000 Take care.
01:58:35.000 Get out of here with your life.
01:58:36.000 Correct.
01:58:36.000 Correct.
01:58:37.000 But anyway, so, but yeah, I had a big mouth.
01:58:41.000 Listen, Dan Pena, you've lived a very interesting life.
01:58:43.000 Thank you.
01:58:44.000 You really have.
01:58:44.000 And so if people want to learn more about your stuff, and if anybody ever wants to go to the castle and go through this crazy eight-day seminar, how do they get in touch with you?
01:58:53.000 DanPena.com.
01:58:55.000 Alright, and it's Dan S. Pena is your Twitter handle, and I put it up on my Twitter.
01:58:59.000 Yeah, or Google $50 billion man.
01:59:02.000 Alright, buddy.
01:59:02.000 Because I've created $50 billion for guys just like you, Joe.
01:59:05.000 Just like me?
01:59:06.000 Yeah.
01:59:07.000 Alright.
01:59:08.000 Well, I appreciate you doing that.
01:59:09.000 Well...
01:59:10.000 I appreciate you coming on here, too.
01:59:11.000 It was a pleasure meeting you.
01:59:11.000 Thank you.
01:59:12.000 My pleasure.
01:59:13.000 Thank you very much.
01:59:14.000 Alright, that's it, folks.
01:59:15.000 We'll be back on Sunday.
01:59:17.000 We're not going to be here Saturday, but we're going to do a recap of the fights.
01:59:19.000 We're going to watch them on Sunday.
01:59:20.000 So, see you then.
01:59:21.000 Bye!