The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #932 - TJ Kirk

00:00:00.000 Boom, boom.

00:00:01.000 Five, four, three, two, one.

00:00:06.000 We're live here from the valley with the artist formerly known as the Amazing Atheist.

00:00:11.000 Hello.

00:00:12.000 Imagine if I just started talking like that, no explanation, I just kept it going for years.

00:00:17.000 Everybody's like, one day he's gonna drop it.

00:00:19.000 I kind of dropped it a little.

00:00:21.000 The Amazing Atheist, right? 0.94

00:00:23.000 Yeah.

00:00:23.000 I mean, I still use it.

00:00:25.000 I oscillate.

00:00:25.000 I'm kind of trying to transition to just using my real name.

00:00:28.000 Well, the last time you were here, you talked about that, and that was, I think, two years ago.

00:00:33.000 So this was slow.

00:00:34.000 It was a year and three months ago.

00:00:37.000 Oh, that's it?

00:00:38.000 Yeah.

00:00:38.000 Really?

00:00:38.000 Yeah.

00:00:40.000 Wow.

00:00:40.000 It was January of 2016. Why do I feel like it was so in my memory?

00:00:47.000 I don't know.

00:00:47.000 You know what?

00:00:48.000 You know that Dunbar's number thing where you can only fit so many people in your brain?

00:00:51.000 Yeah.

00:00:52.000 There's definitely that going on in my head and then too much data. 0.99

00:00:56.000 My hard drive is fucked. 0.66

00:00:58.000 You know if you get an old laptop and it keeps telling you you have to delete some files because you're running out of space? 0.99

00:01:05.000 That's my brain.

00:01:06.000 Yeah, I mean, my brain is even worse because literally things like...

00:01:12.000 things I knew yesterday I don't know today anymore.

00:01:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:01:15.000 Like, my memory is dog shit. 1.00

00:01:17.000 And you were just saying you haven't smoked pot in days. 1.00

00:01:19.000 Yep.

00:01:20.000 Hmm.

00:01:20.000 Not in days.

00:01:21.000 Interesting.

00:01:22.000 Days and days.

00:01:24.000 Days and days and days. 0.99

00:01:26.000 I fucked up and had an edible last night. 0.99

00:01:28.000 I did this, there's a show that my friend Jeremiah Watkins has, and it's like a make-em-up show. 0.99

00:01:34.000 He calls it stand-up on the spot, where the audience will yell out, you know, fried broccoli, like whatever, and you just have to rant on broccoli, like what your thoughts are, try to get some comedy out of it.

00:01:43.000 And occasionally, maybe one out of ten subjects, it will actually yield a real bit that'll become a bit in your act.

00:01:50.000 It's really kind of amazing when you put on the pressure like that.

00:01:52.000 So I said, what a good time to test the deep end of the pool and find out what these speed weed edibles are all about. 0.99

00:02:01.000 I fucked up. 0.99

00:02:02.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:02:04.000 Fucked up. 0.99

00:02:05.000 My brother had a panic attack on edibles just a few days ago. 0.99

00:02:14.000 My friend brought over some pot brownies and...

00:02:19.000 He had one.

00:02:20.000 He's not really used to edibles.

00:02:22.000 Anyway, I go to bed. 0.96

00:02:24.000 I'm laying down and watching, like, Star Trek Deep Space Nine or some shit.

00:02:29.000 I get a knock on the door like, TJ! Hey, man, can you come out here for a minute?

00:02:34.000 I'm like, okay.

00:02:36.000 What the hell is this?

00:02:38.000 I go out there, he's like...

00:02:40.000 I'm really not feeling good, man.

00:02:44.000 I think I'm having a heart attack, dude.

00:02:46.000 I'm like, dude, you're probably just having a panic attack from too much weed.

00:02:51.000 Okay, has this ever happened to you?

00:02:54.000 Has this ever happened to you?

00:02:54.000 I'm like, yeah, it's happened to me before.

00:02:57.000 Just calm down.

00:02:58.000 I know your heart's racing. 1.00

00:02:59.000 You feel disoriented and shit. 0.99

00:03:02.000 And, uh... 0.99

00:03:04.000 I thought I was calming him down.

00:03:05.000 I spent like 30 minutes talking him down, but finally, you know, and he seemed like he was like, okay, yeah, yeah, I'm cool now, I'm cool now.

00:03:12.000 And then just all of a sudden, like, no, I feel terrible, we gotta go to the hospital.

00:03:16.000 We gotta go to the hospital, dude. 0.99

00:03:18.000 I gotta go to the fucking hospital. 1.00

00:03:20.000 And I drove him over there, and I sat down in that fucking hospital waiting room. 1.00

00:03:29.000 And they... 0.99

00:03:29.000 There was like this fucking ad for Stanley Steamer. 0.99

00:03:33.000 And there was this terrible jingle and I'm like... 0.99

00:03:35.000 It's like the worst jingle I've ever heard.

00:03:38.000 It's not gonna get stuck in my head.

00:03:40.000 And now to this day...

00:03:42.000 Call 1-800-STEAMER! Stanley Steamer, your certified cleaner!

00:03:49.000 I'll be in bed at night, and that shit will be in my head just over and over and over and over and over again. 0.99

00:03:53.000 Yeah, they have wizards that come up with those things, man. 1.00

00:03:56.000 Even the ones that suck. 0.94

00:03:57.000 They just get in there, you know? 0.99

00:03:58.000 Oh yeah, it's a terrible one. 0.97

00:04:00.000 And then he gets out, they gave him some fuckin' Ativan. 0.93

00:04:04.000 You know what you can give him next time? 0.98

00:04:05.000 Just give him some coffee.

00:04:07.000 Coffee's like one of the best things.

00:04:08.000 Really?

00:04:09.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:04:09.000 There's something about caffeine, apparently, that counteracts the effects of marijuana.

00:04:13.000 When you're really high, they say just drink some coffee.

00:04:15.000 I'll have to do that next time.

00:04:17.000 Yeah.

00:04:17.000 If that happens.

00:04:18.000 Isn't that true?

00:04:19.000 That is true, right?

00:04:20.000 That and a hot shower, I think, because...

00:04:21.000 That's right. 1.00

00:04:22.000 Everyone's got their own fucking home remedy for this shit, I guess. 1.00

00:04:25.000 But here's the thing, like, once you've done it a few times, you realize, well... 0.99

00:04:30.000 What the panic attack is, is essentially your brain taking an audit of all the things that are real worries that you haven't been considering at all.

00:04:39.000 And then they fly.

00:04:40.000 Well, you're going to die someday. 0.91

00:04:41.000 Are you prepared? 0.97

00:04:42.000 Like, what if it's tomorrow?

00:04:43.000 Are you ready?

00:04:44.000 Have you had a good life?

00:04:45.000 Ah!

00:04:46.000 What if someone close to you dies?

00:04:47.000 You think you're going to be able to recover?

00:04:48.000 Ah! 0.99

00:04:50.000 You just start thinking like really crazy shit, and it just makes you aware of those things. 0.99

00:04:55.000 And then once it wears off, you know, you reach... 0.98

00:04:59.000 That sort of neutral point again.

00:05:01.000 Well, he's a hypochondriac to begin with.

00:05:03.000 Oh, that's not good. 0.82

00:05:04.000 You can't give guys like that weed.

00:05:05.000 You should know better.

00:05:06.000 Well, he's fine if he smokes it, but if he eats it...

00:05:09.000 It's a different thing. 1.00

00:05:11.000 It's different shit. 0.99

00:05:12.000 Totally different thing. 1.00

00:05:13.000 So, your podcast was the big podcast that kind of sunk Milo.

00:05:20.000 It was kind of a combination of mine and yours.

00:05:23.000 And I remember it was me watching him on your show.

00:05:27.000 That led us to ask about that because I saw him on your show and he was like God at the time because I remember at the time he was on our show I told Paul, one of my co-hosts, like, Paul, this guy ain't no lightweight and he's got a huge army of sycophants right now. 1.00

00:05:44.000 If you get in a debate with him, if you lose, you're a total bitch. 1.00

00:05:49.000 If you tie, you lose. 1.00

00:05:52.000 If you win by a little, you lose.

00:05:54.000 The only way you can actually beat him with his army of sycophants at this time is if you just demolish him.

00:05:59.000 So don't even try.

00:06:01.000 You were concerned about this?

00:06:02.000 Like, this is something you planned out in advance?

00:06:04.000 No, I mean, it wasn't really a plan.

00:06:07.000 I just wanted to bring it up, because I saw him on your show saying it.

00:06:09.000 I'm like, that's very strange.

00:06:12.000 I kind of knew where he was coming from.

00:06:14.000 Sure.

00:06:15.000 Because I knew that he had had experiences, like sexual experiences, when he was younger.

00:06:18.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 And he was kind of...

00:06:20.000 I think he was trying to trivialize them and turn them into humor.

00:06:24.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, his way of dealing with it or whatever...

00:06:29.000 You know, say, like, oh, it was mutual between me and the priest.

00:06:33.000 I was molested by a priest, but I was into it, so it was cool. 0.99

00:06:36.000 Well, he's like, I was the predator.

00:06:38.000 Yeah.

00:06:38.000 Like, he seduced the priest, you know?

00:06:41.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:06:42.000 It's kind of hard for me to imagine a 13-year-old boy, no matter how flamboyantly gay or sexually aggressive... 1.00

00:06:51.000 You know, jumping the priest's bones or something. 0.97

00:06:54.000 You know?

00:06:55.000 Well, I think it sort of gives you a better understanding of how this guy came to be who he is today and why he so relishes this role of being the contrarian and being this sort of very difficult-to-pigeonhole gay man who's very conservative but yet believes in man-boy love. 0.64

00:07:18.000 I mean, look, this is a...

00:07:19.000 If you go back and you read old articles that he wrote for publications that he worked for in the past, there was a lot of stuff like, we're going to take on bullying on Twitter, and we need to make a safe space for people online.

00:07:35.000 This is Milo. 0.63

00:07:36.000 And now he's like the biggest troll. 0.93

00:07:40.000 Right. 0.97

00:07:41.000 I mean, we talked about Milo last time I was on your show and you told me, you kind of put the seed in my brain like, eh, he's kind of like fake. 0.98

00:07:51.000 And the more I've looked into it, the more I have to question whether or not that shit with the priest even happened to begin with. 0.98

00:07:57.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:07:57.000 Because I just don't... 0.99

00:07:58.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:07:58.000 I don't really trust the shit that comes out of his mouth in terms of, like, face value. 1.00

00:08:02.000 Right. 1.00

00:08:03.000 And I think a lot of times when Milo tries to make a point, he doesn't necessarily make it by directly saying it.

00:08:11.000 He tries to make it through, like, performance art.

00:08:14.000 Like when he went on Bill Maher.

00:08:17.000 And, um... 0.83

00:08:19.000 And, you know, he's doing this whole flamboyant gay conservative thing because he wants the liberal Bill Maher audience to be like, boo! 0.99

00:08:27.000 Boo! 1.00

00:08:28.000 Because it's like, ah, look, what hypocrites. 1.00

00:08:30.000 They say they accept gays, but the second you don't toe their line, what they obviously like is people who toe their line, not gay people. 1.00

00:08:37.000 Right.

00:08:37.000 I think that was the point he was trying to make.

00:08:39.000 I thought it was funny, too, how Bill Maher, the next day, after Milo's scandal broke...

00:08:46.000 Was like, I took him down.

00:08:48.000 It was me.

00:08:48.000 Was he saying that?

00:08:49.000 Yeah, it was like, I took him down.

00:08:51.000 It's like, dude, you said he was the next Hitchens when he was on your show.

00:08:54.000 Wait a minute.

00:08:54.000 He really said he took him down?

00:08:55.000 Yeah, he said, I took him down.

00:08:57.000 No.

00:08:57.000 I took him down.

00:08:59.000 Oh, he's a fool. 1.00

00:09:01.000 That's such a foolish thing to think. 1.00

00:09:03.000 You know, what I think is what Milo does, a lot of it is performance art. 0.94

00:09:07.000 Yeah.

00:09:07.000 It's a lot of trolling and it's a lot of very calculated stuff designed to sort of rile people up and get people active and get people to talk about them.

00:09:17.000 I mean, that's the reason why he does this tour on colleges.

00:09:20.000 I mean, why not do it in the lion's den if you want to get the roars?

00:09:25.000 I mean, he's doing it like where he feels like this problem is the greatest.

00:09:29.000 Oh, he wants to stir that pot, too, because he knows if he just does it in some club downtown, there's not going to be any protests. 0.99

00:09:35.000 No one's going to give a shit. 0.99

00:09:35.000 They'll still protest, I'm sure, but not, like, bringing it to their campus. 0.99

00:09:39.000 It won't be like what happened at Berkeley.

00:09:40.000 Yes. 0.98

00:09:41.000 Yeah, what happened at Berkeley was just fucking insane. 0.98

00:09:43.000 What's really insane is that, was it the mayor of San Francisco that was applauding the protests? 0.99

00:09:47.000 Like, hey, fuckface, there was $100,000 worth of property damage. 0.98

00:09:50.000 People were throwing chairs through Starbucks windows and lighting cop cars on fire. 0.99

00:09:54.000 This ain't good.

00:09:55.000 There's been articles on, like, uh...

00:09:57.000 I almost made a video about this article on the Huffington Post, actually, that was basically like, violence is as valid a reaction to Trump as anything.

00:10:09.000 It's like, wow, you're literally just advocating for violence, and you think you're so enlightened. 0.99

00:10:17.000 Yeah, it's completely foolish. 0.94

00:10:19.000 Once things aren't going their way, it goes against everything they've stood for before. 0.58

00:10:23.000 What about kindness?

00:10:24.000 What about compassion?

00:10:25.000 What about treating people with love?

00:10:27.000 What about facts and information?

00:10:28.000 Well, that's okay when they're in power.

00:10:29.000 Exactly.

00:10:30.000 That's okay when they're in power.

00:10:31.000 Yeah.

00:10:32.000 But when someone else is in power that they don't like, it all kind of goes out the way out.

00:10:35.000 Well, it kind of goes both ways, though, doesn't it?

00:10:37.000 Oh, yeah, it definitely does.

00:10:38.000 I mean, remember when Obama was in office and there was people that were calling him a Muslim and they were talking about taking him out? 0.98

00:10:42.000 I ain't fucking... 1.00

00:10:44.000 I remember, uh, I heard rednecks, I was living in Louisiana at the time he was elected, and I heard rednecks say shit like, man, I can't wait for someone to assassinate this piece of shit. 1.00

00:10:53.000 They were looking forward to it. 1.00

00:10:55.000 Not only did they think it was inevitable he'd be assassinated, but it was like, yeah, that's going to be a good thing. 0.93

00:11:00.000 That's going to be a good day for America when Obama's finally killed.

00:11:03.000 And when they say things like that and you corner them, you go, okay, well, what's so bad about him? 0.90

00:11:08.000 What drives you so nuts? 0.95

00:11:09.000 He's a Kenyan, he's a Muslim, and he's a socialist. 0.97

00:11:12.000 Oh, a socialist. 0.95

00:11:14.000 Socialist, Muslim, Kenyan, communist, secret Muslim. 0.99

00:11:19.000 I would love it if someone pulled off socialism somewhere.

00:11:22.000 Like there was like one country and go, well look, those guys are happy.

00:11:25.000 Look at those folks.

00:11:27.000 If you look at socialism as a gradient, then there's plenty of countries that have more or less...

00:11:33.000 More socialist than we are.

00:11:34.000 I don't think pure socialism is a good idea any more than pure capitalism.

00:11:38.000 Like, oh, we just need laissez-faire, the libertarian idea.

00:11:44.000 Like, yeah, the markets will take care of everything.

00:11:47.000 How many libertarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

00:11:49.000 None.

00:11:50.000 The free market will take care of it. 0.96

00:11:52.000 Yeah, well, those people get a little goofy.

00:11:54.000 And you know, the most frustrating to me is the anarchists.

00:11:57.000 The ones who want no taxes, no cops, you know, nobody fixes the roads.

00:12:02.000 Or worse, private police.

00:12:04.000 Oh, that's even worse.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, it's like, private police!

00:12:07.000 Like, how does that work?

00:12:08.000 You mean everyone, if you have money, you just hire out your own justice?

00:12:12.000 I mean... 0.81

00:12:13.000 Hire out thugs.

00:12:15.000 Does that really seem like they would be objective and in pursuit of, like...

00:12:19.000 It seems like they would just be your armed thugs that are going to mete out whatever form of justice you think is appropriate.

00:12:25.000 Yeah.

00:12:26.000 Well, for sure.

00:12:26.000 If they're working for you, that'd be an issue.

00:12:28.000 If you're the big boss and the big boss wants these laws enforced, you know, and then the big boss passes his own laws on his property.

00:12:35.000 It makes things different.

00:12:36.000 It gets real weird when you're dealing with 350 million people.

00:12:40.000 That's really a part of the problem.

00:12:42.000 The style of civilization that works well for one person is not what's preferred by another person.

00:12:49.000 And all those things combined...

00:12:51.000 With the whole antiquated voting system, the whole ridiculous electoral college system.

00:12:58.000 We're never going to achieve some sort of peace of mind.

00:13:01.000 Superdelegates in the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:13:03.000 Those are the most ridiculous. 1.00

00:13:04.000 Wait a minute. 1.00

00:13:05.000 Hold on.

00:13:05.000 You're a superdelegate?

00:13:08.000 How does that work?

00:13:09.000 You can decide not to vote for the way the entire state voted?

00:13:13.000 Yes.

00:13:13.000 That's right.

00:13:14.000 Unbelievable.

00:13:15.000 And we're leaving it up to them to make sure that Trump doesn't get in.

00:13:17.000 It's a stopgap, you know, like, because the people in power have always been afraid of the actual will of the people, so anything they can do, they want to safeguard, like, well, if the people choose poorly, you know, we want to be able to stop that from happening. 0.97

00:13:31.000 Yeah, we have to, those uninformed fools, we can't leave them up to their own decisions. 0.99

00:13:35.000 In all fairness, I've been around America and there are a lot of uninformed fools. 1.00

00:13:39.000 There's a few. 0.99

00:13:40.000 Quite a few.

00:13:41.000 What do you think? 0.99

00:13:41.000 You think it's like half of us are uninformed fools? 0.99

00:13:44.000 I wouldn't even want to throw out a number. 1.00

00:13:47.000 But there's just a lot of people that are stupid. 1.00

00:13:49.000 I mean, it's hard to know because, you know, you really almost don't know what someone really thinks until you sit down with them one by one or, you know, one on one and have a conversation. 1.00

00:13:57.000 And even then.

00:13:58.000 Well, you don't keep a real job, right?

00:14:00.000 When was the last time you had a real job, a job job?

00:14:02.000 I worked at IHOP for two days.

00:14:08.000 About 10 years ago.

00:14:09.000 That's it?

00:14:09.000 More than 10 years ago.

00:14:10.000 And what have you been doing for the most part since then?

00:14:12.000 YouTube.

00:14:13.000 Yeah, see, if you can make a living doing something else in this day and age, you're removed from the grid.

00:14:21.000 Yeah.

00:14:21.000 And if you're removed from the employer-employee grid...

00:14:25.000 You get to see things in a different way.

00:14:27.000 You go, well, this is all temporary.

00:14:30.000 Everyone's working towards some future that really never comes.

00:14:35.000 The life that you're experiencing right now is life. 0.66

00:14:38.000 And most people are spending that time doing shit they don't want to do, and it fills up all their time. 0.82

00:14:43.000 So then when it comes to government, And it comes to, like, who's leading the country? 0.97

00:14:48.000 Which direction is the country going into it?

00:14:50.000 How much time do people actually spend paying attention to it?

00:14:54.000 And actually spend really considering it?

00:14:56.000 I mean, I've been at people's houses where I'll try to bring up news or politics or something like that.

00:15:03.000 They get sick.

00:15:04.000 And people are just like, we don't talk about that in this household.

00:15:08.000 It's like, what?

00:15:10.000 Not even necessarily politics, but just news.

00:15:12.000 Like, yeah, did you hear about this thing that happened?

00:15:14.000 I don't like news.

00:15:15.000 It depresses me.

00:15:16.000 Oh, is this a woman? 0.98

00:15:17.000 It sounds like a woman's voice.

00:15:19.000 Yeah.

00:15:19.000 That was a woman.

00:15:20.000 That was a woman voice.

00:15:22.000 Not in my house, woman. 1.00

00:15:23.000 Not in my house. 1.00

00:15:24.000 We don't put up with that shit around here. 0.99

00:15:27.000 We have ways that we allow you to communicate inside these borders. 1.00

00:15:30.000 By the way, I did lose my IHOP job by dumping pancakes on somebody.

00:15:34.000 You did?

00:15:34.000 Yeah.

00:15:35.000 Who was it? 1.00

00:15:36.000 It's fat fuck. 1.00

00:15:37.000 You know what? 1.00

00:15:37.000 But I went into the job and I was like, all right, look, I'm not good with people. 1.00

00:15:44.000 Don't put me anywhere near front of house.

00:15:47.000 I'm going to be in the kitchen.

00:15:49.000 I was living in Alabama at the time.

00:15:51.000 I was like 18. I had a 32-year-old girlfriend.

00:15:56.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:15:57.000 So I was like, you know. 1.00

00:15:58.000 You were mature.

00:15:59.000 Yeah.

00:15:59.000 And she's like, you know, I was lazing around the house every day while she went and worked.

00:16:03.000 And eventually she's like, you need to get a job.

00:16:06.000 And I'm like, all right.

00:16:08.000 I guess.

00:16:09.000 Hey, you were banging a 32-year-old. 0.95

00:16:10.000 You should have been psyched.

00:16:11.000 Yeah.

00:16:12.000 Well, I was at first, but then when she said get a job, I was like, eh.

00:16:16.000 But I did.

00:16:17.000 I'm like, all right, I'm going to try to make this work.

00:16:19.000 So I went to IHOP, and they're like, yeah, you just work the back.

00:16:22.000 I'm like, okay, cool, I'll work the back.

00:16:24.000 I'll just do dishes.

00:16:25.000 I'll just turn my brain off and wash dishes.

00:16:27.000 Right. 0.97

00:16:27.000 And, you know, I'll learn to do the grill or whatever the fuck else. 0.97

00:16:32.000 Second day, I was there. 0.74

00:16:34.000 They're like, we're short-staffed.

00:16:35.000 We're gonna need you to just take care of a few tables. 1.00

00:16:37.000 I'm like, it's not a good idea.

00:16:39.000 I'm not good with the public.

00:16:40.000 I'm not good with people.

00:16:41.000 Did they train you how to do it when they said they're short-staffed?

00:16:43.000 No.

00:16:43.000 They just sent you out there?

00:16:44.000 They're just like, yeah.

00:16:44.000 I mean, they told me, like, yeah, you just, you know...

00:16:47.000 Write down their orders.

00:16:49.000 Yeah, just go out, write out, you know.

00:16:50.000 We know you're not gonna be great at it, whatever, but go do it.

00:16:53.000 Because we're short-staffed.

00:16:54.000 We need you.

00:16:55.000 Everyone else in the kitchen is more vital than you are because they've all been here a long time.

00:16:58.000 Oh. 0.99

00:17:00.000 So, uh, I went out, and I took, I waited on like three or four tables, and there was this one fat fuck who, maybe like, I mean, it had been a while. 0.99

00:17:10.000 This place was not well run. 0.99

00:17:12.000 The fact that they sent me out to fucking wait tables is evidence of that. 0.99

00:17:16.000 So it was like 15 minutes, and he hadn't got his fucking, uh, pancakes and breakfast and shit. 0.99

00:17:23.000 And he's like, where are my pancakes? 0.99

00:17:26.000 I'm like, oh, um, I'll go check.

00:17:28.000 You better...

00:17:29.000 You better.

00:17:30.000 You better!

00:17:32.000 That just rang in my head.

00:17:34.000 You know, like, the same as that jingle.

00:17:36.000 You better.

00:17:37.000 You better.

00:17:38.000 You better. 0.99

00:17:38.000 Like, I don't recall you signing my fucking paychecks. 0.99

00:17:43.000 So, I just went up to him with a pancake tray and I just dumped it in his lap and like, there you go, bitch. 1.00

00:17:49.000 Wow. 1.00

00:17:49.000 And I walked out. 1.00

00:17:50.000 That's all it took was you better.

00:17:51.000 And you know what?

00:17:53.000 I was out there in the parking lot for about seven hours because I didn't have a cell phone.

00:17:59.000 I didn't have a ride.

00:18:00.000 It wasn't seven hours, more like four or five.

00:18:03.000 But I was just wandering around in a parking lot.

00:18:05.000 I couldn't even stay in the IHOP parking lot because I didn't want anyone from there to come in, but I just wandered around the parking lot of this shopping center for four hours waiting for my girlfriend to show up. 0.66

00:18:15.000 When she finally did, I was just like, yeah, I quit.

00:18:19.000 Didn't tell her the story.

00:18:21.000 Just told her I quit.

00:18:23.000 And we broke up shortly after that.

00:18:25.000 I would imagine that wouldn't work out.

00:18:26.000 It didn't work out.

00:18:27.000 Well, you were 18. Yeah, I was young.

00:18:29.000 Impulsive. 1.00

00:18:29.000 I was young and stupid. 1.00

00:18:30.000 You were young. 1.00

00:18:31.000 Now I'm old and stupid. 1.00

00:18:32.000 You were antisocial slightly. 1.00

00:18:35.000 Forced into a situation that you didn't desire.

00:18:37.000 I'm extremely antisocial in general.

00:18:38.000 Are you?

00:18:39.000 Yeah, still, to this day.

00:18:40.000 But that's interesting because you do YouTube videos and you talk.

00:18:44.000 Yeah.

00:18:44.000 And you talk with people on a podcast, which is pretty social.

00:18:47.000 Yeah.

00:18:48.000 I'm getting better at it.

00:18:49.000 That's good. 0.99

00:18:50.000 You know, I'm still not comfortable around strangers and shit. 0.96

00:18:53.000 You get uncomfortable when you do podcasts, like this one? 0.98

00:18:57.000 Does this make you uncomfortable?

00:18:58.000 Oh yeah, you know, like, a lot of people, when I guess they figured out I was coming on here again, I read a thread on the Drunken Peasants subreddit, where people were talking about, yeah, you know, he's gonna be on Joe Rogan again, and people were like, yeah, I liked last time, but I hope he's not so nervous this time.

00:19:14.000 Uh-oh.

00:19:15.000 You can't say that. 1.00

00:19:16.000 Because I'm like, oh shit. 0.99

00:19:18.000 Well, I was nervous last time. 0.97

00:19:20.000 Like, last time I did your show, I came in here and I talked to you, and then I left, and I was like, I have no idea what the content of the conversation I just had was.

00:19:33.000 When I got here, you were already... 0.96

00:19:34.000 I don't remember a fucking word. 1.00

00:19:35.000 You were already baked out of your mind when I got here. 0.99

00:19:37.000 That's true, too.

00:19:39.000 I don't remember much of what we talked about either, but it was good.

00:19:41.000 That's why you're back.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I enjoyed it.

00:19:44.000 I've never been able to watch it, though.

00:19:46.000 Yeah, I don't watch them.

00:19:47.000 I can't watch it at all. 0.95

00:19:48.000 I mean, usually I will watch everything that I'm in and just am in love with the sound of my own voice and obsessive and, you know, all that shit.

00:19:54.000 But, like, this, this show I couldn't watch just because, like, I can't watch my CNN appearance either.

00:20:02.000 What'd you do CNN about?

00:20:04.000 I went on CNN because there was a new poll out that showed that Faith was on the decline in America, so they had me on there. 0.94

00:20:12.000 I was supposed to be on 30 minutes, but unfortunately that was the day that fucking Ratzinger Resign. 0.98

00:20:18.000 Whatever. 1.00

00:20:20.000 So, it got preempted for that shit. 0.99

00:20:23.000 But I was on for about four minutes, and I had an argument with William Lane Craig about statistics. 0.99

00:20:32.000 Who is William Lane Craig? 1.00

00:20:34.000 He's a Christian apologist piece of shit. 1.00

00:20:36.000 Sounds like one. 1.00

00:20:36.000 He's horrible. 1.00

00:20:37.000 He's just wretched. 0.99

00:20:38.000 You can watch him debate Hitchens, and I think... 0.59

00:20:41.000 No, he never debated Dawkins, but you can watch him debate Hitchens.

00:20:45.000 Terrible stuff.

00:20:47.000 Yeah, that sounds like not so good.

00:20:51.000 Just the name, William Lane Craig.

00:20:53.000 It's like, settle down, buddy.

00:20:54.000 Here, why not?

00:20:56.000 Yeah, why not just William Craig?

00:20:57.000 Why you gotta throw that Lane in there?

00:20:59.000 Unless you're married to someone whose last name is Lane.

00:21:01.000 And that's always a disaster.

00:21:02.000 Those hyphenated marriages?

00:21:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:21:04.000 That shit just seems like someone's... 1.00

00:21:06.000 Like, that is an oil wrestling match. 1.00

00:21:08.000 And someone's gonna lose.

00:21:09.000 You guys are gonna lose.

00:21:10.000 It's not gonna work.

00:21:11.000 It's too much struggle for power there.

00:21:14.000 That's true.

00:21:16.000 Plus, what do you do if you have- I mean, what happens when it compounds, you know?

00:21:21.000 Like, the kids are born, do they take the hyphenated name?

00:21:24.000 Exactly.

00:21:25.000 And then what if they meet and fall in love with someone else who has a hyphenated name?

00:21:28.000 Do they then have, like, four last names with three hyphens in it, you know?

00:21:33.000 It's like, does it just compound over time, like, until eventually everyone has every single last name just hyphenated?

00:21:40.000 That's true. 0.98

00:21:41.000 If everybody was so greedy and wanted to be special the way those assholes do, we would all have hyphenated names. 0.99

00:21:46.000 That would be a real problem. 1.00

00:21:48.000 Maybe just get rid of the fucking name change shit and just argue about what the kids are going to be named. 1.00

00:21:52.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:21:53.000 How do you feel about people changing their names?

00:21:55.000 Like, what if you just decided, like, I want to change my whole name.

00:21:59.000 First and last.

00:22:00.000 I just want to become a new person.

00:22:01.000 My dad changed his name.

00:22:03.000 Did he?

00:22:03.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 Did he have a crazy last name hard to pronounce?

00:22:06.000 No, it wasn't that.

00:22:07.000 My grandfather...

00:22:09.000 Look, I'm Thomas James Kirk III, but I'm the first person in my family to have that name.

00:22:15.000 So...

00:22:15.000 What?

00:22:16.000 Yeah.

00:22:16.000 What happened was, my grandfather was named James Vardaman Kirk.

00:22:21.000 James Kirk.

00:22:23.000 So when my dad was James Vardaman Kirk Jr., Star Trek came out at some point, and he's James Kirk.

00:22:33.000 So he's getting Star Trek jokes non-stop all the time.

00:22:38.000 Finally, he was in France, and he ordered up some champagne to his room.

00:22:42.000 He was impressing a young woman.

00:22:45.000 And they're like, oh, we'll beam it right up, sir. 1.00

00:22:49.000 And he's like, fuck this name. 1.00

00:22:50.000 Wow. 1.00

00:22:51.000 I gotta get rid of this.

00:22:53.000 So, when I was born, Thomas James Kirk III, because he knew he was changing his name to Thomas James Kirk Jr., but he didn't actually officially change it until after I was born...

00:23:06.000 So, even though I'm the third, I'm actually the first.

00:23:10.000 Whoa.

00:23:11.000 That's crazy.

00:23:12.000 No one would ever guess that on a trivia test.

00:23:14.000 Nope.

00:23:15.000 You would sneak that one right through.

00:23:17.000 That's annoying.

00:23:18.000 That's like, there's no one probably today that's named Rick James. 0.89

00:23:23.000 Like, anyone born after the Chappelle show, there's no fucking way anyone who saw the Chappelle show is naming their kid Rick James. 0.67

00:23:30.000 If your last name's James, you're not gonna name your boy Rick. 0.92

00:23:34.000 Right?

00:23:35.000 I mean, I don't know. 1.00

00:23:36.000 Maybe some people are like, damn right, Rick James, bitch. 1.00

00:23:39.000 I'm Rick James, bitch. 1.00

00:23:40.000 That was a real problem with Chappelle's career. 1.00

00:23:45.000 That Rick James, bitch thing, people would yell it out at shows. 1.00

00:23:47.000 Just constantly yell it out. 1.00

00:23:50.000 Like, white bros. 0.96

00:23:52.000 Like, you know the guy who would yell it?

00:23:56.000 You could see him, you know? 1.00

00:23:57.000 I'm Rick James, bitch! 1.00

00:23:59.000 Like... 1.00

00:24:00.000 Drunk. 1.00

00:24:00.000 Rick James, bitch! 1.00

00:24:02.000 Woo! 1.00

00:24:03.000 Yeah.

00:24:04.000 And people apparently just kept doing that at his shows.

00:24:07.000 It was like a real problem for a while.

00:24:08.000 You should have done like a...

00:24:09.000 Just be like Schwarzenegger.

00:24:10.000 Just embrace it.

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:12.000 You know, Schwarzenegger goes around.

00:24:13.000 He always is using all...

00:24:14.000 You terminated! 1.00

00:24:15.000 And all this shit. 1.00

00:24:16.000 You know, he just embraces it. 1.00

00:24:18.000 Because he knows people just fucking get that shit in their head and they want to hear it. 1.00

00:24:21.000 So he's like, fuck it. 1.00

00:24:22.000 Give it to them. 1.00

00:24:23.000 Yeah, he did it on The New Apprentice, right?

00:24:24.000 Yeah.

00:24:27.000 I never saw it.

00:24:28.000 Did you see it?

00:24:28.000 No, I didn't.

00:24:29.000 I didn't even watch the old one. 1.00

00:24:30.000 But he'll fucking go around, like, he'll do all his little lines, I'll be back, and all this shit. 0.99

00:24:35.000 You know, he doesn't care. 1.00

00:24:37.000 No, he doesn't.

00:24:38.000 That's his trademark. 1.00

00:24:39.000 That's his shit. 1.00

00:24:41.000 He's not scared of it. 1.00

00:24:42.000 I love the fucking... 1.00

00:24:43.000 There was a rally where someone threw eggs at Arnold Schwarzenegger. 1.00

00:24:46.000 They threw eggs at him?

00:24:47.000 Yeah, they threw eggs.

00:24:47.000 He got on his suit and he's like, well, that's what's great about America, but they owe me some bacon.

00:24:51.000 You know, it's like, what? 0.99

00:24:53.000 You're so fucking smooth, Arnold. 0.98

00:24:55.000 You should be president. 0.99

00:24:56.000 They threw eggs at him.

00:24:57.000 Yeah.

00:24:59.000 People just looking for a reason to get mad.

00:25:01.000 I'm pissed because Arnold.

00:25:02.000 He's the problem in America. 1.00

00:25:04.000 Arnold fucking Schwarzenegger. 1.00

00:25:05.000 Was he a good governor? 0.99

00:25:07.000 No.

00:25:07.000 Was he a bad governor?

00:25:09.000 Nah, not really.

00:25:09.000 Was he just half-assed?

00:25:10.000 He was half-assed, mediocre governor.

00:25:12.000 Do you think it's almost impossible to jump in later in life without going through the river of politics first?

00:25:21.000 House of Cards style.

00:25:22.000 Trump's kind of done it.

00:25:23.000 You're right.

00:25:24.000 But has he?

00:25:24.000 I mean, he's in.

00:25:25.000 But I mean, is it going to work?

00:25:27.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:27.000 Like Arnold Schwarzenegger got in too, like in the relationship to the same, you know, same two sort of situations.

00:25:33.000 I mean, does it really, I mean, it works enough to where he's president.

00:25:36.000 That's true.

00:25:37.000 I mean, it worked that well. 1.00

00:25:39.000 I mean, his approval ratings are kind of dog shit, but they always were. 0.99

00:25:44.000 But when you say whether or not Arnold Schwarzenegger was a good governor, I don't know. 0.99

00:25:49.000 I don't really know enough about it.

00:25:51.000 I would have to really look into it.

00:25:52.000 Yeah, I mean, the big thing was that he tried to pass all these...

00:26:01.000 I guess laws is not really the word I'm looking for, but I'll use that.

00:26:05.000 He tried to pass all these, like, laws, and they all failed at the ballot, and people said he was done.

00:26:11.000 And he just went out and, like, he went out and made a speech that almost gave you the impression like he'd been against them from the start.

00:26:19.000 Like, yes, these terrible laws, they are gone.

00:26:22.000 It's like, okay, you're the one who pushed them, but whatever.

00:26:26.000 He was really smooth at just operating with crowds and just knew what to say, knew the right attitude to strike.

00:26:33.000 But in terms of actually governing, it was just mediocre.

00:26:35.000 He didn't really get much done legislatively.

00:26:38.000 But he didn't really, he wasn't really a disaster either.

00:26:41.000 Yeah, well, that's what I was thinking.

00:26:42.000 Like, I wonder how difficult it is to get things done.

00:26:45.000 Like, we'd only be guessing. 1.00

00:26:47.000 Like, sitting here on the outside, and that guy that you were talking to, like, Obama's a piece of shit, like that kind of a guy. 1.00

00:26:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:52.000 Like, how much of it do you think he really grasps? 1.00

00:26:56.000 Very little.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, I don't think anybody who's not doing it Grasps how complex that system is.

00:27:03.000 You and I probably both know that the more people you involve in any sort of endeavor or project, the more difficult it becomes because you're managing all these different interests.

00:27:13.000 For sure.

00:27:13.000 So when you're president or governor or something like that, you have so many people that you're supposed to be representing...

00:27:21.000 And they all have different ideas, and there's other legislators who have their agendas and shit, so it's probably pretty difficult to get much of anything done.

00:27:30.000 Could you imagine the stress of that job? 0.82

00:27:33.000 I mean, just imagine.

00:27:36.000 That's why Trump's been golfing so many times.

00:27:38.000 Just to try to relieve stress?

00:27:40.000 Yeah, I'm sure.

00:27:41.000 I mean, he criticized Obama for golfing too much, and now Trump's a big, avid golfer.

00:27:49.000 I can't even imagine it.

00:27:51.000 I mean, the guy's 70 years old, too.

00:27:53.000 Like, why would he even want to take this on?

00:27:55.000 With all that money and all that, you know, all that power already.

00:28:01.000 Like, why would he want to be the president? 0.98

00:28:05.000 It just seems like such a fucking hellacious job. 0.92

00:28:08.000 Unless he really feels like he can fix things, or he's really gonna make a ton of money from it. 0.99

00:28:13.000 I mean, this is a guy who plasters his fucking name on buildings and shit, you know? 0.98

00:28:17.000 So I think it's really just a matter for him of like, this is part of my legacy. 0.99

00:28:22.000 You know, towards the end of my life, I was President of the United States.

00:28:25.000 It's so weird.

00:28:27.000 It's so weird.

00:28:28.000 Because it's another version of what many people did with Obama. 0.99

00:28:33.000 In this weird way, in that when Obama got into office, there was all these really, really irrational people that said all kinds of crazy shit. 0.99

00:28:42.000 And by the way, Trump was amongst them. 0.99

00:28:44.000 He was a birther.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, he was.

00:28:45.000 Remember?

00:28:46.000 For the longest time.

00:28:47.000 He was convinced.

00:28:49.000 Somebody convinced him.

00:28:50.000 I don't know who convinced him.

00:28:51.000 I don't know if he really relinquished it and realized he was wrong, or if he still holds onto the idea.

00:28:57.000 Did he ever really believe it, too?

00:28:58.000 I don't know.

00:28:59.000 I don't know.

00:29:00.000 But you know who started that whole birther thing? 0.99

00:29:02.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:29:04.000 Yeah, she did.

00:29:04.000 That's right.

00:29:05.000 That's something that people forget.

00:29:06.000 It was during the campaign between her and Obama when they were trying to get the nomination in 2008. Yeah.

00:29:14.000 She had one of her little orgs send out materials that showed Obama in the... 0.99

00:29:21.000 He was wearing some African Muslim garb shit because he went on a visit to some other country. 1.00

00:29:27.000 Look at him! 1.00

00:29:28.000 He's Muslim!

00:29:31.000 And Trump just ran with that.

00:29:35.000 Or a lot of Republicans did, too.

00:29:38.000 Well, I guess that's just how they play politics. 0.52

00:29:41.000 They have something like that.

00:29:43.000 They just run with it.

00:29:43.000 It's just so strange to see.

00:29:46.000 Well, when you got a candidate named Barack Obama...

00:29:49.000 I know.

00:29:49.000 It's amazing.

00:29:50.000 It's easy.

00:29:51.000 Hussein.

00:29:52.000 Hussein Obama.

00:29:53.000 Like...

00:29:53.000 Barack Hussein Obama.

00:29:54.000 Hussein?

00:29:55.000 Isn't that the guy that ran Iraq and Obama?

00:29:58.000 Isn't that similar to the name of the guy that crashed those planes into the towers?

00:30:03.000 Yeah.

00:30:03.000 Somebody had a joke.

00:30:04.000 A really good, well-rooted joke.

00:30:06.000 I don't remember who it was, though.

00:30:08.000 Might have been Tony Hinchcliffe.

00:30:09.000 But the...

00:30:11.000 I mean, it's just this is almost a similar reaction.

00:30:14.000 I don't mean it's less it's more rational or less rational What I mean is almost like the energy of the reaction like the energy of the birthers and the guys who were convinced that he was some sort of undercover Muslim and then he was gonna get into the White House and try to take America down from the inside like that Feeling that the amount of energy that way is mirrored now on the left Maybe even oh, 0.54

00:30:36.000 yeah, maybe even past I would say probably I might not be right because I might not be remembering it perfectly, but I feel like the energy on the left of people getting mad at Trump is more powerful or there's more to it than the energy that I saw from people on the right that wanted Obama out of office.

00:30:54.000 But it might just be my memory.

00:30:55.000 You've got to remember, too, there's an age gap there.

00:30:58.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:30:58.000 Because, you know, most of the people who were talking this shit about Obama were pretty old. 0.99

00:31:02.000 Right, right. 0.99

00:31:03.000 And a lot of the people now that are pissed are really young, so they're more likely to take to the streets and, you know, smash things and hold up signs and, you know, act wild and shit. 0.98

00:31:13.000 And mace people. 0.80

00:31:15.000 Yeah, you know, and I remember when Bush took office, though, like...

00:31:19.000 When Bush was being inaugurated, I remember he was driving down to the White House on Inauguration Day.

00:31:27.000 With Trump, the protesters kind of came the next day.

00:31:31.000 But when Bush was inaugurated, the protesters were all there the day of.

00:31:35.000 Bush couldn't even do the little traditional walk down the last few blocks of the journey because there were so many protesters. 1.00

00:31:43.000 People were just throwing things at the fucking motorcade and shit. 0.99

00:31:47.000 So, I mean, like, this is not unusual. 0.99

00:31:50.000 But that was towards the end.

00:31:52.000 No, that was the very beginning.

00:31:55.000 Which one am I thinking of?

00:31:56.000 Wasn't there one towards the very end?

00:32:01.000 I think we're thinking of different ones.

00:32:02.000 Okay. 0.86

00:32:03.000 I think my memory's fucked up.

00:32:04.000 But I think there was one towards the end where they had planned on having him walk down some long stretch, and they had to abandon it and get him into a car.

00:32:13.000 Is that the same story?

00:32:14.000 Yeah, well, I think that was both times.

00:32:16.000 I think it was the first, but even during his first time, like when he was just first being inaugurated president in 2000?

00:32:22.000 So, right after Clinton?

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:24.000 That inauguration was bad, too?

00:32:26.000 Yeah, it was terrible.

00:32:27.000 It was almost the same as what you see now, because people had had this Democrat in power for eight years, and they thought, like, yeah!

00:32:35.000 And they thought, Gore's a shoo-in, because Clinton's popular.

00:32:38.000 Mm-hmm.

00:32:39.000 Same as, like, Hillary's a shoo-in, because Obama's popular. 0.71

00:32:42.000 Right.

00:32:43.000 But, you know, a Republican ended up taking it, and they just freaked out.

00:32:51.000 And it seems like that always just happens.

00:32:53.000 I mean, like, this kind of, like, backlash, like, it always is kind of sold to us as, like, this is new.

00:33:00.000 This is like, oh, wow, look at what's going on now.

00:33:02.000 Isn't this crazy?

00:33:03.000 What crazy times we live in.

00:33:04.000 But I look back at my memories of the past and it seems like this is pretty par for the course.

00:33:09.000 I think you're right.

00:33:10.000 Now that I'm thinking about it, it's almost like we go through these, like, cycles.

00:33:13.000 Yeah.

00:33:15.000 And if a president gets past one cycle removed from his...

00:33:20.000 his tenure then people forgive him they forget and they change their opinion yeah like Reagan like man when I was a kid Reagan was a pariah like people were so upset about Reagan they were so upset and there was the Contra versus Nicaragua trial that was on television with Oliver North yeah and we were finding out on TV Whether or not the government had sold arms and

00:33:51.000 lied about it, and then the whole Reagan thing, whether or not Reagan sold arms to Iran.

00:33:56.000 The great Jimmy Tingle, hilarious stand-up comedian in Boston, has this bit about it.

00:34:00.000 That was when Reagan started claiming Alzheimer's, or when he claimed memory issues.

00:34:06.000 Which turned out to be true.

00:34:07.000 I mean, he really did have memory issues, and he probably did at the time.

00:34:09.000 But they asked him, did you sell arms to Iraq?

00:34:13.000 He said, I don't know.

00:34:13.000 And Jimmy Tingle's like, Mr. President, if you ever sell arms to people who hate us, jot it down.

00:34:22.000 He's like, make a note.

00:34:24.000 Put it on the refrigerator.

00:34:25.000 Today I sold arms to people who hate me.

00:34:29.000 You have to hear him say it.

00:34:30.000 I mean, you know, you have to realize, though, like, America's always been a huge arms dealer.

00:34:35.000 I mean, we're constantly selling weapons.

00:34:37.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:38.000 I mean, like, if he didn't remember why he did it, it's probably because there were just so many other transactions.

00:34:42.000 I don't think the president personally gets involved too much in that sort of stuff.

00:34:46.000 No, probably not.

00:34:47.000 Our country sells weapons all over the place, and we continue to do that.

00:34:50.000 Yeah.

00:34:50.000 My point was that, like, eight years later, he was the great Ronald Reagan.

00:34:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:34:55.000 Eight years later.

00:34:56.000 He goes through the Clinton administration. 1.00

00:34:59.000 Everybody's done with Clinton, getting his dick sucked in the White House and all that craziness. 0.99

00:35:03.000 And then as soon as that's over, people start reminiscing to Reagan. 0.99

00:35:08.000 It's really interesting.

00:35:10.000 It's really interesting how we do it.

00:35:12.000 And so now Bush went through this period of being hated.

00:35:15.000 And he's out of office and Obama goes through his period of being hated for eight years.

00:35:20.000 And now that an even more unreasonable Republicans in office, people long to the Bush days.

00:35:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:26.000 Like, you notice they're trotting Bush out and doing interviews with him like, hey, remember this war criminal?

00:35:31.000 Now he's okay!

00:35:33.000 He's Uncle Bush.

00:35:34.000 It's Uncle Bush here.

00:35:36.000 Uncle Bush gonna set you on his knee.

00:35:38.000 They superimpose, what is that, protests during the Bush administration?

00:35:42.000 Protests from his inaugurations, yeah.

00:35:44.000 Yep.

00:35:44.000 Wow.

00:35:45.000 What is it saying? 1.00

00:35:46.000 Fuck Bush? 1.00

00:35:47.000 Oh, Buckfush. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Buckfush. 0.99

00:35:50.000 There's a couple of you are not my president things.

00:35:52.000 Of course, man.

00:35:54.000 Of course.

00:35:55.000 So, you know, this is all so cyclic.

00:35:58.000 Yeah.

00:35:58.000 It just happens over and over again, and people think it's new, and, you know, for some, I think, I guess it's the country just has a short memory.

00:36:05.000 Dude, what a crazy show this is.

00:36:08.000 What a crazy show we're watching.

00:36:10.000 The battle to control the world.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, political theater.

00:36:14.000 Pageantry.

00:36:15.000 But, you know, like, it's just, I mean, like, I don't want to get into, like, you already had Alex Jones on the show, so I can't really get into that level of territory, but, I mean, I do agree that these parties are constantly just working together behind the scenes, and that 90% of the issues they agree on,

00:36:32.000 they just make a big spectacle of the little things they actually disagree on to...

00:36:38.000 We're good to go. 0.99

00:36:59.000 I watched the first season, but when he started pushing people in front of trains and shit, I was like, man. 0.98

00:37:05.000 Spoiler alert. 0.96

00:37:06.000 Sorry.

00:37:07.000 This is the beginning of season two, man.

00:37:09.000 If they ain't seen it, whatever.

00:37:10.000 Listen, man, I'm only on season three.

00:37:11.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:12.000 I just got into it.

00:37:13.000 I've been binge-watching it.

00:37:14.000 Binging it?

00:37:15.000 Yeah.

00:37:15.000 Look, I really like Kevin Spacey's performance, but it just got a little over the top for me.

00:37:19.000 Yeah.

00:37:20.000 All right, buddy.

00:37:21.000 Well, we all have different standards.

00:37:23.000 I guess so.

00:37:23.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:24.000 I'm sorry.

00:37:25.000 I'm not insulting the show.

00:37:26.000 Isn't that a funny thing, though?

00:37:27.000 Like, if someone likes something and you don't like it, it gets personal.

00:37:32.000 Sometimes.

00:37:33.000 Yeah.

00:37:33.000 Especially, like, music.

00:37:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:37:35.000 It's music.

00:37:36.000 It's like, you listen to that shit. 1.00

00:37:37.000 This is really shit you listen to. 1.00

00:37:39.000 Like, people get mad. 1.00

00:37:41.000 Right?

00:37:42.000 I can get mad, like, if someone's like, you know, I really like Beyonce or something.

00:37:47.000 You'd get mad?

00:37:48.000 What if you got in the car and someone's playing, like, some, like, electronica?

00:37:54.000 You know, like a villain in some sort of a Coen Brothers movie?

00:38:00.000 Yeah.

00:38:02.000 Like, Big Lebowski villain?

00:38:03.000 Remember those guys? 0.99

00:38:04.000 You know, I was in an Uber the other day where someone was playing, like, it sounded like fucking elevator music. 0.99

00:38:09.000 Like, it was like he was just listening to the shit you hear in fucking elevators, and it was like a 45-minute drive. 0.99

00:38:15.000 And I'm just like, oh my god, I mean, I can't say anything. 1.00

00:38:19.000 It's his fucking car. 1.00

00:38:21.000 This is driving me fucking up the wall. 1.00

00:38:23.000 Could you bring it up to him? 0.98

00:38:24.000 Are you allowed to bring it up?

00:38:25.000 I mean, I'm sure I'm allowed to.

00:38:27.000 I mean, there's nothing that's going to happen if I bring it up.

00:38:30.000 I don't want to have that discussion like, hey, can you change your music because it's horrible to me and it's grating on my last nerve right now.

00:38:38.000 You're supposed to.

00:38:39.000 You get control of that music with the app.

00:38:42.000 Wait a minute.

00:38:43.000 I'm bad at dealing with people.

00:38:45.000 With the app?

00:38:45.000 Yeah, with the Uber app.

00:38:46.000 There's a button that connects to your Spotify.

00:38:48.000 They're supposed to offer you the aux cord when you get in the car so you can control the music, which is double annoying for the driver, I would imagine, but they're supposed to give you control.

00:38:57.000 Really?

00:38:57.000 Yeah.

00:38:58.000 Whoa.

00:38:59.000 See, I've never taken that right. 1.00

00:39:01.000 So you let them just take over with their shitty music. 0.99

00:39:05.000 I mean, at the end of the day, they're the ones who have to drive around in this fucking car all day, and I'm just getting a ride. 1.00

00:39:11.000 So I feel like an asshole being like, no, I'm going to oppose my musical taste on you. 1.00

00:39:15.000 Because I feel like it's their car, whatever. 1.00

00:39:19.000 Well, it's definitely their car.

00:39:21.000 It's also what's weird is, why does music suck to us, and it's great to some people?

00:39:27.000 What is that? 0.97

00:39:29.000 What is it about a song that you go, oh, that's a fucking great song, and someone else will go, turn that off. 0.95

00:39:35.000 It kind of reminds me of something with food. 0.99

00:39:39.000 People have different food preferences and shit. 0.96

00:39:41.000 I always wonder, I'm eating a pickle, and I like it. 0.99

00:39:45.000 Other people hate pickles.

00:39:48.000 So, when they eat a pickle, does it taste different to them than it does to me?

00:39:52.000 Or is it the same taste, but they just don't like that taste?

00:39:56.000 Yeah.

00:39:56.000 And I kind of wonder the same thing about the music thing.

00:39:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:59.000 I think for sure.

00:40:00.000 I think it's probably a visual thing too.

00:40:05.000 Not visual in terms of taking account of space and mass, but visual in account of what each individual image does for you, like how it looks to you.

00:40:14.000 Yeah.

00:40:14.000 Like the overall feeling it gives you.

00:40:16.000 I think it's different for everybody.

00:40:17.000 It just has to be.

00:40:18.000 It has to be.

00:40:19.000 I mean, what else would account for all the different tastes?

00:40:23.000 Yeah.

00:40:23.000 The obvious different, especially music.

00:40:25.000 But then this, like, taste that you vary yourself.

00:40:28.000 Like, you ever catch yourself in some weird mix?

00:40:30.000 Like, you hit iPod Shuffle or something like that, and you catch some weird mix of songs that you like, and you're like, wow, they just do not go together.

00:40:37.000 Like, these two are just really weird back-to-back.

00:40:39.000 Yeah.

00:40:40.000 You know, going back to the food thing, like, you know, there's certain foods you might like, but maybe together they're not so great.

00:40:46.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:40:47.000 And there's certain foods you would think would not be good together but are amazing, like pineapple and anchovies.

00:40:53.000 See, I don't like either of those by themselves.

00:40:57.000 Dude, on pizza?

00:40:59.000 Pineapple anchovy pizza?

00:41:01.000 Oh, you're one of those pineapple on pizza people, huh?

00:41:03.000 Very rarely.

00:41:04.000 Only with anchovies.

00:41:05.000 I'm not a Hawaiian pizza guy.

00:41:07.000 I don't even think Hawaiians are Hawaiian pizza people.

00:41:10.000 Who's getting that ham and...

00:41:14.000 I'm a big...

00:41:15.000 If it's Canadian bacon, why is it a Hawaiian pizza?

00:41:18.000 That's a real good question, man.

00:41:19.000 That's a super good question.

00:41:21.000 Why is it? 0.98

00:41:22.000 And how the fuck is that bacon? 0.96

00:41:23.000 It's not. 1.00

00:41:24.000 It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:41:24.000 If you go to Canada and say, I want some bacon, they don't bring you that shit. 1.00

00:41:28.000 Yeah, that's some... 1.00

00:41:29.000 Yeah, what is that?

00:41:30.000 That's like a Belgium waffle.

00:41:31.000 Why is it from Belgium?

00:41:32.000 Is that a waffle? 0.99

00:41:34.000 The fucked up thing is, I went to Belgium. 0.99

00:41:36.000 And I got a waffle there. 1.00

00:41:38.000 And it's nothing like what they fucking say. 0.96

00:41:40.000 You know, Belgian waffles here, they're like round, and you eat it on a plate with syrup. 0.98

00:41:44.000 They give you like...

00:41:45.000 It's like street food there.

00:41:46.000 You get like a little tiny fork, and there's like a small waffle.

00:41:49.000 It's not even round. 0.98

00:41:50.000 And they put whatever the fuck you want. 0.97

00:41:52.000 It's not just syrup. 0.98

00:41:53.000 They'll put like... 0.99

00:41:54.000 Fresh strawberries and all kinds of shit on there, and you just sit there and eat it with this little tiny ridiculous fork. 0.99

00:42:00.000 And it's totally different than what's called a Belgian waffle in America. 0.99

00:42:04.000 So it's like one of those, um, you ever go to one of those crepe stands?

00:42:08.000 Yeah.

00:42:08.000 That's in the mall, you know, like they make you little crepes and waffles and stuff and they put Nutella on them and a bunch of different toppings.

00:42:14.000 Yeah, I would say it's probably closer to that. 0.96

00:42:15.000 Yeah, that's goddamn delicious. 0.94

00:42:17.000 That's way better than a Belgian waffle. 1.00

00:42:19.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:42:19.000 But a Belgian waffle is easy to do. 1.00

00:42:21.000 You know, put it in that mold.

00:42:23.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:42:23.000 Stamp that sucker down, pull out that waffle. 0.99

00:42:28.000 TJ and Joe Rogan talk about waffles. 0.96

00:42:30.000 It's important to talk about waffles.

00:42:32.000 Waffle House, one of the best road foods ever.

00:42:34.000 Because you can guarantee you're going to get the same thing pretty much everywhere.

00:42:38.000 No one else can do hash browns that I like other than Waffle House. 0.99

00:42:42.000 They do some goddamn good hash browns. 1.00

00:42:43.000 They're putting crack in those fucking hash browns. 1.00

00:42:44.000 Their waffles are ridiculous. 1.00

00:42:47.000 Dude, and you see so much crazy shit at Waffle Houses, too. 1.00

00:42:51.000 I was at a Waffle House, and the service was terrible. 1.00

00:42:55.000 I was in there for like an hour and a half, but goddamn, the show was amazing, because the cook and the one waitress hated each other and were fighting the entire time. 1.00

00:43:06.000 And it got to the point where she runs out, she's in the parking lot crying, and he's like, giving me free food. 0.98

00:43:11.000 Don't report this, and you got free food!

00:43:14.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:43:15.000 It's like, alright.

00:43:17.000 Thanks.

00:43:18.000 Went to another Waffle House when I was a, not really a kid, but like, you know, a teenager. 1.00

00:43:23.000 The guy that ran that Waffle House was a fucking psycho. 1.00

00:43:26.000 The cook? 1.00

00:43:27.000 He would just yell at you.

00:43:29.000 He came over to my table one time, and he's like, this waitress is getting off soon.

00:43:36.000 I think you guys need to go.

00:43:37.000 Go pay your bill and go.

00:43:38.000 Whoa.

00:43:39.000 I'm like, okay.

00:43:41.000 I mean, this is open 24 hours, right?

00:43:44.000 Like, what?

00:43:46.000 He's like, no, close it out because she's got to go.

00:43:48.000 I guess she wants the tip before she leaves or whatever. 0.99

00:43:53.000 So that was weird.

00:43:54.000 One time a drunk came in there holding like a bottle of wine or something.

00:43:59.000 And he was just like, no, get that out of here.

00:44:03.000 That's not allowed in here.

00:44:04.000 Get out.

00:44:05.000 Whoa.

00:44:06.000 Just like very intense all the time. 0.96

00:44:08.000 I think he was like a retired cop or something that was just didn't, I don't know, didn't get his pension or some shit, so he's at a Waffle House.

00:44:16.000 Maybe he spent his pension on the Waffle House to make it big. 0.80

00:44:18.000 I mean, he wasn't the owner. 1.00

00:44:20.000 He's just a fucking cook. 1.00

00:44:21.000 Oh. 1.00

00:44:22.000 Just a cook who's like cantankerous and angry and would yell at you and attack you. 1.00

00:44:26.000 Weird food places, man.

00:44:28.000 Like weird food places you travel in and you, for a brief period of time, enter into these people's worlds and watch them interact with each other.

00:44:34.000 Iron skillet.

00:44:35.000 I went to this Montana diner, this really small diner outside of Billings, Montana with a few of my friends.

00:44:44.000 We pulled into this diner and we had just got done hunting for five days in the mountains.

00:44:50.000 We were dirty and we were tired.

00:44:54.000 We had just been camping this whole time.

00:44:56.000 We just got off of a boat.

00:44:58.000 And this guy had a like a big piece of cardboard like four by four like four feet by four feet cardboard with photos of all these different Marines that he had propped up on like an easel board and Had all the different soldiers that had died under like Obama's watch in this one particular mission And he kept pointing out like these are these are 11 of our boys That died because of this president so-called president that we he's not my president not 0.91

00:45:28.000 my president Yeah, it got to that weird shit and he was coming over to the table and talking to us while like while we're there eating I'll never forget that guy It was just so bizarre. 0.93

00:45:39.000 Like, you had to go, yep, it's terrible. 0.99

00:45:41.000 Yep, it's terrible.

00:45:42.000 Can we eat and leave?

00:45:43.000 Like, we were stuck.

00:45:44.000 While this guy, like, hovered over us with his lecture, his PowerPoint presentation.

00:45:50.000 I mean, he had, like, photos of these guys up on this thing, and he wanted to talk to everybody about it.

00:45:54.000 Yeah, I had a weird food experience in Colorado.

00:45:58.000 I drove all the way from Columbus to Seattle when I was moving.

00:46:03.000 Because we had... 0.99

00:46:05.000 Like, dogs and lizards and all kinds of shit. 0.99

00:46:08.000 So... 0.99

00:46:09.000 We just decided to drive it.

00:46:12.000 And, uh...

00:46:13.000 You know, to make kind of a road trip of it, we stopped off in Colorado for, like, a couple days.

00:46:18.000 To check that out, because I'd never been there.

00:46:21.000 We're at the hotel restaurant. 1.00

00:46:24.000 The waiter we had was fucking, like, the most bipolar fucking dude in history. 1.00

00:46:31.000 Because... 1.00

00:46:32.000 We order this, you know, fruit and meat cheese tray or whatever. 0.99

00:46:37.000 Meat and cheese and, you know, some other shit. 0.98

00:46:41.000 And there's some nuts on it. 0.99

00:46:43.000 And somehow it comes up.

00:46:46.000 My girlfriend has, like, nut allergies.

00:46:48.000 Oh, no.

00:46:48.000 And, you know, they're not severe.

00:46:51.000 They're really mild.

00:46:52.000 And she just avoids it by not eating those nuts. 0.94

00:46:56.000 You know, if something touches them, they're fine.

00:46:58.000 But this guy, he's over there like...

00:47:02.000 Why didn't you tell me she had a nut allergy? 0.73

00:47:03.000 And we're just kind of like, uh-huh.

00:47:05.000 This is not a joke.

00:47:07.000 This is a serious matter.

00:47:09.000 Don't laugh.

00:47:09.000 We take this very seriously here.

00:47:12.000 I'm not exaggerating this fucking guy either. 1.00

00:47:16.000 He's like accosting us about this shit. 0.99

00:47:18.000 He's like, I don't even know if I should bring that out. 0.99

00:47:20.000 I don't even know if I should bring that out now.

00:47:21.000 And we're like, just bring it out.

00:47:24.000 She just won't eat the nuts. 1.00

00:47:26.000 She's like, she cannot have anything from the tray.

00:47:28.000 You understand?

00:47:30.000 Oh, God.

00:47:30.000 Nothing from the tray can she...

00:47:32.000 And we're like...

00:47:32.000 And he kept asking, like, is it airborne?

00:47:36.000 Is the nut allergy airborne?

00:47:37.000 Some people have an airborne nut allergy.

00:47:39.000 Sure.

00:47:40.000 But she doesn't.

00:47:41.000 And she told him that.

00:47:41.000 And he's persistent.

00:47:42.000 And he wouldn't...

00:47:43.000 He'd, like, ask it, but not wait for the answer.

00:47:45.000 Yeah.

00:47:47.000 And then he'd come back, and he'd be totally pleasant, like, so you guys are on the da-da-da.

00:47:51.000 And then he'd leave, and he'd come back again, and he'd be crazy again.

00:47:56.000 Like, she held up her glass, because he's, like, refilling, and her glass is kind of far away, so she, like, you know, holds it out, and he's like, put that back on the table!

00:48:05.000 Put that back on the table! 0.97

00:48:07.000 It's like, what? 1.00

00:48:08.000 You're a fucking psycho. 1.00

00:48:10.000 That whole city, though, was high-strung as shit. 1.00

00:48:12.000 Because I remember I went to a pot shop there... 1.00

00:48:15.000 And the guy at the pot shop, he was like...

00:48:18.000 First of all, I had to go to a waiting room, which is just weird, and take a number.

00:48:24.000 And then I was called into another room where I thought I was going to be able to buy weed, but instead it was just another waiting room. 0.99

00:48:31.000 And then I finally get to the fucking little broom closet where they keep their meager supply of fucking weed. 1.00

00:48:37.000 And there's this guy behind the counter, and he knows shit. 1.00

00:48:42.000 Was like, what's up? 0.99

00:48:45.000 I'm like, please, what?

00:48:47.000 And then, we had four people with us.

00:48:50.000 He proceeds to do it to everybody.

00:48:53.000 So, four times in a row, what's up? 0.99

00:48:58.000 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? 0.99

00:49:00.000 Like, I smoke weed to, like, chill out and relax and shit, but you're just like... 1.00

00:49:06.000 And he's bitching about how hard his job is there, too. 0.97

00:49:09.000 He's like, man, I can't wait till we get off work so we can get really high.

00:49:12.000 I mean, we're already high, but we're gonna get real high.

00:49:17.000 That guy gets to vote, too. 0.99

00:49:18.000 And then there was a, when I was leaving that fucking place, there was, like, a syringe, like, on the floor of the fucking weed shop. 1.00

00:49:25.000 I'm like, this fucking, this Colorado weed shit is a joke. 1.00

00:49:27.000 I think it's way better in Washington. 1.00

00:49:30.000 You just go into a fucking store like any other store and buy it. 0.99

00:49:34.000 Well, I think what they're worried about more than anything is people robbing them. 1.00

00:49:37.000 Maybe.

00:49:37.000 That's probably why they make you go through steps, like step one into step two.

00:49:41.000 Yeah, phased introduction.

00:49:43.000 Yeah, I mean, also, they can isolate you from the outside if the cameras are monitoring you.

00:49:50.000 It probably makes people less likely to try to attempt an armed robbery.

00:49:54.000 Who knows? 0.99

00:49:55.000 But you could arm-robbed any fucking place. 1.00

00:49:57.000 For sure. 0.99

00:49:58.000 It's not like that's exclusive to weed shops.

00:50:00.000 For sure.

00:50:01.000 It's just a scary thing, what they're doing, where they're not allowing them to use credit cards, and so they keep large chunks of cash around.

00:50:09.000 I think they're trying to resolve that.

00:50:11.000 I don't know if they have yet.

00:50:12.000 But it was a giant issue for a long time, because they would have to hire these, like, Like, mercenaries, essentially.

00:50:19.000 You know, guys who work for, like, Blackwater and stuff like that.

00:50:22.000 Those kind of guys.

00:50:24.000 To carry the money around.

00:50:25.000 Or to guard the people that are carrying the money around.

00:50:27.000 Did you hear Jeff Sessions recently?

00:50:30.000 Yeah.

00:50:31.000 Saying that... 1.00

00:50:34.000 Marijuana is a destructive fucking drug that is almost as bad as heroin. 1.00

00:50:43.000 Was it today or yesterday? 1.00

00:50:45.000 I think it was either today or yesterday that he said it.

00:50:48.000 I saw it.

00:50:48.000 It's hilarious that this guy is in charge of anything.

00:50:52.000 Only slightly less awful was his words.

00:50:54.000 Only slightly less awful than heroin.

00:50:56.000 Someone is, without a doubt, If that's what he's expressing, someone's without a doubt influencing that.

00:51:03.000 There's more than just his opinion here.

00:51:06.000 They have these meetings when they're discussing policy or they're discussing how they proceed.

00:51:13.000 This isn't as simple as this one wacky dude's opinion and they leave him alone with his opinion.

00:51:18.000 He has ultimate power.

00:51:19.000 There's no way.

00:51:20.000 There's a bunch of vested interests.

00:51:22.000 There's a bunch of people that have a tremendous amount of money at stake.

00:51:26.000 And would lose money if marijuana was legal.

00:51:28.000 That is 100% why that guy's doing it.

00:51:30.000 Sure, but I mean, his personal opinion towards weed has always been really horrible.

00:51:35.000 But you can't lie like that. 1.00

00:51:37.000 Like, that's just a fucking lie. 0.99

00:51:39.000 You don't have any data to show that that's even remotely true. 1.00

00:51:42.000 Heroin kills fuckloads of people. 0.97

00:51:45.000 People, their bodies are ravaged by it. 1.00

00:51:47.000 Pot doesn't do a goddamn thing to you. 1.00

00:51:49.000 It might make you a little loony. 0.99

00:51:51.000 Yeah, just a...

00:51:51.000 I mean, like, you know, it's not even comparable.

00:51:54.000 No, and if you might be...

00:51:55.000 They had schizophrenia exams, where they looked at all the population, and they said, you know, marijuana contributes to schizophrenia, and they were like, well, actually, no.

00:52:03.000 If you look at the number, it's always 1%.

00:52:05.000 And if those 1% are smoking pot or not smoking pot, it's still...

00:52:08.000 The schizophrenia numbers have always been around 1%.

00:52:11.000 Yeah, I mean, look, schizophrenia can be exacerbated by marijuana.

00:52:14.000 I'm sure.

00:52:15.000 But it's not...

00:52:16.000 It doesn't cause it.

00:52:17.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 I'm not a brain scientist, nor are you.

00:52:21.000 Are you?

00:52:22.000 I've dealt with schizophrenic people.

00:52:24.000 You know them, right?

00:52:24.000 Yeah.

00:52:25.000 I've known a few.

00:52:27.000 I think it probably varies like any other kind of mental illness.

00:52:30.000 But what pisses me off, though, more than even the personal angle of, like, I'm a pot smoker and this affects me personally.

00:52:36.000 I mean, that does get my goat a little bit, but what really pisses me off is that...

00:52:40.000 Trump is Mr. Jobs.

00:52:43.000 This industry, this $7 billion recreational marijuana industry is employing like 100-150 people part-time and full-time that are along some rung of the ladder of like,

00:52:59.000 oh, well, either they're working for the growers or they're doing the packaging or they're helping with the shipping.

00:53:06.000 So this is like a huge job creator.

00:53:09.000 It's a huge moneymaker.

00:53:11.000 This is what Trump ran on.

00:53:13.000 Trump's like, I'm the jobs president.

00:53:15.000 I'm gonna bring jobs back.

00:53:17.000 If they go after this industry, that's the exact opposite of bringing jobs back.

00:53:21.000 That's shutting jobs down.

00:53:24.000 What's shutting jobs down, though, with the kind of people that we don't really want around the first place?

00:53:29.000 I mean, they can sort of surmise that people that are running pot shops are probably pretty left-wing, you know, pretty quickly.

00:53:37.000 Sure.

00:53:38.000 And so you're making, almost you're making more money for your opposition, whereas the pharmaceutical companies, they're nonpartisan.

00:53:45.000 Don't forget the alcohol industry, too.

00:53:47.000 That's true.

00:53:48.000 Both of them.

00:53:49.000 The prison unions.

00:53:50.000 Prison guard unions.

00:53:51.000 That's what's really crazy.

00:53:52.000 You find out that prison guard unions have worked to try to keep marijuana legal.

00:53:55.000 You're like, wow.

00:53:56.000 Like, what you're really saying is, we want to extract money by putting people in cages.

00:54:01.000 That's what you're really saying.

00:54:02.000 Well, that's what you get when you do a private prison industry. 0.98

00:54:05.000 Goddammit, DJ. I mean, I've done videos about this fucking private prison industry. 0.99

00:54:09.000 It's crazy. 0.99

00:54:10.000 And, you know, I'm always surprised by just how tepid the response is.

00:54:13.000 People are like, eh.

00:54:15.000 Yeah, whatever, you know, prisoners. 1.00

00:54:17.000 Who gives a shit? 0.99

00:54:17.000 It's like, yeah, but what about the fact that plenty of people don't belong to be there? 0.99

00:54:20.000 What about the fact that these people who run these prison industries sponsor legislation to put more people in jail in a country that already has the disproportionately highest prison population of any country on the planet while claiming to be the fucking land of the free? 0.97

00:54:34.000 Yeah, we put a fuckload of people in jail. 0.98

00:54:36.000 Tons. 0.95

00:54:37.000 I think...

00:54:38.000 What is the statistic?

00:54:39.000 Some bananas thing about the percentage of people that the United States puts in jail as opposed to the rest of the world.

00:54:47.000 But the rest of the world kills people.

00:54:48.000 Yeah, I mean, look.

00:54:49.000 They don't bother locking you up as much. 1.00

00:54:52.000 Yeah, in some other countries, they just take you out in the back and fucking shoot you in the head. 0.99

00:54:56.000 Did you see that mass grave they just found? 1.00

00:54:59.000 No.

00:55:00.000 They found a mass grave in Mexico.

00:55:02.000 Really, really bad one, apparently.

00:55:04.000 They found as many as 250 bodies.

00:55:07.000 Cartels?

00:55:08.000 Yeah.

00:55:10.000 See if you can find that, Jamie.

00:55:12.000 It's a creepy story, man, because some teachers found it.

00:55:15.000 They were looking for something else, and I think they just found some bones, and they started digging in.

00:55:20.000 And they've only...

00:55:23.000 Done, like, an excavation of a certain percentage of the land, too, that they're looking at.

00:55:27.000 And, like, it might be as much as thousands.

00:55:29.000 So there could be, like, extensive mass graves throughout the entire area.

00:55:32.000 Sure.

00:55:32.000 They didn't know this existed.

00:55:34.000 Here it is.

00:55:35.000 More than 250 human skulls found in Mexico.

00:55:38.000 Jesus.

00:55:39.000 Yeah.

00:55:40.000 Mass grave containing more than 250 human skulls was uncovered in central Mexico, most likely the victim of drug cartels over the years.

00:55:48.000 Ugh.

00:55:48.000 Jesus.

00:55:50.000 Either that or one very prolific serial killer. 0.99

00:55:53.000 That guy's really getting shit done. 0.99

00:55:56.000 Yeah, this is terrifying, man. 0.98

00:55:58.000 And it's really terrifying that this massive drug war is happening to fuel the illegal drug market over here.

00:56:06.000 And it's happening with a country that's connected to us.

00:56:10.000 It's right there.

00:56:10.000 We have this massive issue going on, right?

00:56:13.000 Yeah.

00:56:14.000 Well, why do you think the build a wall rhetoric is so effective?

00:56:17.000 Of course.

00:56:17.000 Sure.

00:56:18.000 But it's just even more...

00:56:19.000 Well, that's like the least effective option.

00:56:21.000 No, it is.

00:56:21.000 It's terrible.

00:56:22.000 It's just the best option would be to make it legal and regulate everything and to let adults do whatever the fuck they want to do. 1.00

00:56:28.000 And if some asshole wants to take meth, let them take meth. 1.00

00:56:31.000 Let them buy meth. 1.00

00:56:32.000 He can buy Adderall already.

00:56:34.000 A lot of these people who are doing these crazy drugs, they're only doing it because better drugs aren't available, they can't find them, they're too expensive. 0.96

00:56:41.000 Like, if you just legalize and regulate all these markets, which we know for a fact are going to exist no matter what, because people are just gonna do fucking drugs, whether it's legal or it's not legal.

00:56:52.000 Do you know the only variable, the only thing that I really worry about, though, is opiates.

00:56:57.000 Because I feel like if you made opiates legal, if you made them more accessible, I just know way too many people have lost their lives on them.

00:57:03.000 Yeah.

00:57:03.000 I know way too many people that have taken them, and then they just, the whole thing got real slippery, and they just started fucking up at work, and they were on them all the time, and they got real foggy.

00:57:15.000 I mean, look, we live in a country full of obese people, and, you know, I'm pretty obese, but That's terrible for your health.

00:57:22.000 Probably not quite as bad as severe opiate addiction.

00:57:26.000 Nah, it's not even close.

00:57:27.000 But, you know, like, it leads to a whole plethora of health problems.

00:57:30.000 And look, I mean, like, we live in a...

00:57:32.000 Either we believe that people have the freedom to make their own choices about their own bodies, or we don't.

00:57:37.000 Right.

00:57:38.000 And to me, you know, even if there is negative repercussions, like, there's negative repercussions to being pro-Second Amendment.

00:57:44.000 You know, we do have more gun violence because of that.

00:57:47.000 I still believe in the Second Amendment.

00:57:49.000 I do believe in...

00:57:50.000 Probably more regulation for it, but... 1.00

00:57:52.000 You just fucked up right there, son. 1.00

00:57:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:57:55.000 You just opened up the gates of hell.

00:57:56.000 Open the gates of hell. 1.00

00:57:57.000 This motherfucker! 1.00

00:57:57.000 You think you're smarter than the founding fathers? 1.00

00:58:00.000 You're fucking... 1.00

00:58:01.000 Were you gonna update the Second Amendment? 1.00

00:58:03.000 I mean, we've already updated... 0.99

00:58:04.000 Goddamn Waffle House waiter. 0.98

00:58:05.000 We've already updated plenty of aspects of the Constitution. 0.99

00:58:09.000 Not officially, but, you know, like the privacy clause, that's just fucking gone. 0.92

00:58:14.000 Yeah.

00:58:14.000 So the Fourth Amendment is just, you know, it's basically null and void at this point.

00:58:19.000 I don't want anybody doing heroin.

00:58:21.000 Yeah.

00:58:21.000 But I don't think that it should be illegal.

00:58:24.000 I just, I think that stuff, I bet in certain circumstances, under severe pain, certain opiates, especially like natural opiates, probably feel wonderful.

00:58:35.000 If you have like a severe back pain, you can't rest, and you take something like that. 0.99

00:58:39.000 The real problem is those fucking pills get in people's DNA, man. 1.00

00:58:44.000 They get attached to you in some terrifying way. 1.00

00:58:49.000 Yeah.

00:58:49.000 And people get into them more than almost anything I've ever seen.

00:58:54.000 And they actually are, like, you know, the gateway drug thing is kind of mocked because it's attributed to weed, but those pills usually are a gateway to, you know, begin injecting.

00:59:03.000 If they don't inject, I mean, they'll inject if it works just as good, and that's the only way they can get it.

00:59:08.000 And that's what happened with a lot of people in Massachusetts.

00:59:12.000 One of those episodes of Anthony Bourdain's show, he was out like near, I forget what area of Massachusetts, but it was all about how many people had been devastated by heroin addiction and heroin overdoses, and a lot of it came out of the OxyContin addictions.

00:59:26.000 Yeah.

00:59:27.000 They got the pills really easily, and then when it became less, when they started clamping down the regulations and made it harder for people to get prescriptions, then people turned to heroin because they were addicted to opiates.

00:59:38.000 Right.

00:59:38.000 It was just a part of who they were at that point, you And, you know, the whole country right now, I mean, like, because there's a big opiate crisis, you know, they're trying to...

00:59:48.000 Doctors are not writing as many of these opiate prescriptions, and they're trying to make it harder to get, so a lot more people are turning to heroin.

00:59:53.000 So now we just have a heroin crisis.

00:59:55.000 Yeah, and people don't know how much to take, and they're overdosing and dying.

00:59:59.000 It's so spooky.

01:00:01.000 And...

01:00:05.000 These same people who are already addicted to it, who are already going to seek it out, are already going to find it. 0.99

01:00:09.000 First of all, there's no stigma so they can actually go seek fucking treatment for it. 0.98

01:00:15.000 It's pretty difficult to admit you're a heroin addict when you're scared that you might go to fucking jail just for what you do. 0.98

01:00:22.000 Well, they don't use the best stuff to get people off drugs anyway. 0.96

01:00:26.000 Supposedly the most effective, and this is not from my personal experience, but the most effective drug to get people off drugs is that Ibogaine stuff.

01:00:34.000 Ibogaine, which is from the iboga tree, and apparently it has a massive impact on people that are addicted to heroin and pills and alcoholics and things along those lines.

01:00:44.000 Apparently that stuff just fucking knocks it right out of your system. 0.83

01:00:48.000 Interesting. 0.97

01:00:48.000 Yeah, and like really excellent rate of people staying off of it. 0.97

01:00:54.000 An excellent percentage of people stay off of it permanently, as opposed to a lot of the other methods.

01:00:59.000 It's hard for people to change their ways, you know? 0.99

01:01:01.000 The people get into these little patterns and they get into these habits, and if one of those habits also is physically addicting as well, like heroin is, or like pills are, it's just really hard for people to kick that shit. 0.99

01:01:13.000 It's terrifying to me, man. 0.99

01:01:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I understand, kind of, because I do smoke.

01:01:18.000 Right.

01:01:19.000 How much do you smoke?

01:01:21.000 You know, at the worst, it was probably like two packs a day.

01:01:24.000 Oh, dude, that's a lot.

01:01:25.000 And now it's probably like half a pack a day.

01:01:28.000 That's better.

01:01:29.000 I've been down, though, to as low as like three or four cigarettes a day.

01:01:32.000 Why don't you just like limit yourself to something like that?

01:01:37.000 Because the only way I can actually do it is to get...

01:01:41.000 My girlfriend or my brother or somebody to dole them out to me, because I don't have the willpower to just say, I ain't gonna do it.

01:01:48.000 What if you, like, in the morning...

01:01:49.000 And then it puts a lot of stress on them to have to regulate it and me fucking bothering them, and I'll fucking deviously just, like, sneak out, go to the gas station, have, like, another pack, so I'm smoking those four, but I'm also secretly smoking, like, another four or five off somewhere else. 0.98

01:02:04.000 Well, that's ridiculous. 0.98

01:02:05.000 Yeah, I'm terrible. 0.98

01:02:06.000 Yeah, that's not good.

01:02:07.000 Absolutely awful.

01:02:08.000 Do you have a problem with that type of behavior?

01:02:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:12.000 Or do you just accept it?

01:02:13.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:02:14.000 I realize when I'm doing it, like, wow, I'm a total piece of shit for doing this. 1.00

01:02:18.000 But is it just the moment feels so good to suck on that cigarette? 1.00

01:02:22.000 No, it's really not, because it's fucking horrible. 0.99

01:02:25.000 Every time I smoke a cigarette, I'm like, why am I doing this? 0.96

01:02:28.000 But what happens is there's that moment before...

01:02:32.000 Or more than a moment. 0.99

01:02:33.000 Like, the lead-up to smoking a cigarette is like, God damn. 0.99

01:02:37.000 That cigarette, when I get it, it's gonna be so fucking good. 0.99

01:02:41.000 Really? 0.94

01:02:41.000 It's gonna make me feel just fine and all this. 0.94

01:02:43.000 And then I start smoking, and I'm like, man, this fucking sucks. 0.99

01:02:46.000 And then I put, you know, I'll smoke it, or I'll smoke half of it and put it out or whatever. 0.99

01:02:51.000 And then, you know, next thing I know, 30 minutes to an hour later, it's like, man... 0.90

01:02:55.000 That next cigarette I smoke, it's gonna be so fucking nice.

01:03:00.000 Oh, okay, so it's the feeling before this cigarette that you, the anticipation, and then the immediate reward is what? 0.84

01:03:08.000 The immediate reward is, like, disappointment.

01:03:11.000 Really? 0.99

01:03:12.000 It's just like, this sucks. 0.99

01:03:13.000 This doesn't taste good. 0.96

01:03:14.000 This isn't really changing my brain chemistry in a significant enough way. 1.00

01:03:19.000 Fuck. 0.99

01:03:19.000 It looks cool though. 0.99

01:03:20.000 You know what?

01:03:21.000 I'm a rebel.

01:03:22.000 The visual element is nice. 1.00

01:03:24.000 I like seeing the smoke just fucking climb up and shit. 0.99

01:03:28.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:03:28.000 That big fucking little stream of smoke and it curls around and gets bigger and does all those fucking little weird acrobatics and shit. 1.00

01:03:36.000 But it does put you into a certain mindset if you're acknowledging that you're doing something absolutely ridiculous that's detrimental to your health. 0.99

01:03:44.000 You know it is.

01:03:45.000 There's no debate.

01:03:47.000 No debate is what it's terrible for. 0.99

01:03:48.000 And you're like, I'm going I don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:03:50.000 It's not even I don't give a fuck, though. 1.00

01:03:52.000 I'm just fucking stupid. 1.00

01:03:54.000 I'm just like, wow, I'm just a fucking drone for this shit. 1.00

01:03:57.000 It's a little bit of that, but it's a little bit of I want this cigarette in my body right now more than I want to be healthy later. 0.99

01:04:04.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:04:05.000 That's true.

01:04:06.000 Because you're healthy enough to smoke it.

01:04:08.000 Instant gratification.

01:04:10.000 Instant.

01:04:11.000 You're just giving a little piece of yourself... 1.00

01:04:17.000 To death. 0.99

01:04:18.000 Just a little piece.

01:04:18.000 Let me take a little piece now.

01:04:20.000 Here you go, death.

01:04:21.000 I'm just going to give you a little bit of my life force. 1.00

01:04:23.000 You just take that, and in exchange I'll puff on this stupid stick of leaves. 0.99

01:04:26.000 Yeah, it's like there's a bank account. 0.99

01:04:28.000 How much do you put in?

01:04:29.000 How much do you take out?

01:04:30.000 When you're smoking cigarettes, you're greedy.

01:04:33.000 You take a lot out of your account.

01:04:35.000 Yeah.

01:04:36.000 You're just digging into your account, and all of a sudden, you know, you go to the shop, and you're like, yeah, can I get this on credit?

01:04:41.000 And they're like, dude, you're out of credit.

01:04:42.000 Oh.

01:04:43.000 It's over. 1.00

01:04:44.000 Damn. 1.00

01:04:44.000 You fucked up your lungs, son. 1.00

01:04:46.000 You burnt them off. 1.00

01:04:48.000 Yeah.

01:04:48.000 That's really kind of what it is, right?

01:04:50.000 I agree.

01:04:51.000 I don't have any argument with that analogy.

01:04:53.000 I wouldn't say stop doing it if you don't feel like you need to. 0.97

01:04:57.000 You know, I went to my fucking doctor recently, and they gave me a book, and I haven't read it yet, but... 0.97

01:05:06.000 Supposedly it's gonna help. 0.99

01:05:07.000 On cigarettes?

01:05:08.000 Yeah.

01:05:09.000 Mike Lacey, who owns a comedy and magic club, his wife works with people that have terminal lung cancer.

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:17.000 And he was explaining how they die.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:20.000 And he's explaining that essentially you're drowning on your own fluid.

01:05:25.000 And that you're gasping for air as you leave this life.

01:05:29.000 Yeah.

01:05:30.000 He goes, and people are in sheer horror and terror.

01:05:33.000 And he said, this is not something you ever want to do. 0.99

01:05:35.000 Maybe I should visit the fucking, uh, the smokers' ward or some shit. 0.99

01:05:40.000 Man, maybe you should. 0.99

01:05:42.000 The thing is, when they go bad, they go bad away from us.

01:05:46.000 They go bad, they're in those hospitals somewhere, locked up in a room, and the nurses get to see them, and they'll tell you.

01:05:52.000 The nurses are the ones you talk to if you want to find out how horrible it is to watch someone die from lung cancer.

01:05:57.000 Yeah.

01:05:59.000 But the way Mike Lacey was explaining it to Brian Redband, meanwhile it went right in there and right out there and fell on the ground. 0.99

01:06:08.000 Yeah, you know, that could happen, or I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, so who gives a shit? 0.98

01:06:12.000 Yeah, I might not live forever anyway. 0.96

01:06:13.000 Yeah, just too much desire to get that feel.

01:06:18.000 It's also, it's like a rebellious attitude that goes with it. 0.97

01:06:22.000 I don't give a fuck about my health. 0.99

01:06:25.000 Why do I give a fuck about anything? 0.98

01:06:27.000 Yeah, I mean, I do have problems finding things to be passionate about or care about, but I guess in some ways I've tried to cultivate that because... 0.99

01:06:37.000 You know, like George Carlin and shit. 0.91

01:06:40.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:06:40.000 Like, I loved that idea of, yeah, I'm an observer here. 0.97

01:06:45.000 Like, I'm not going to be part of this.

01:06:47.000 I'm just going to look at it from the outside and be detached from it.

01:06:50.000 And I've kind of tried to cultivate that in myself, but I've also noticed, like, it's kind of hard to draw upon my own passions the more I do that.

01:07:00.000 So I don't know if I need to find a happier medium or what, but...

01:07:03.000 That's interesting.

01:07:04.000 So in your analysis of a subject, like when you're doing these YouTube videos, you're almost like an outsider looking in, and you feel like there's a good strategy to that, maybe?

01:07:15.000 Or a good creative angle?

01:07:16.000 I think it's...

01:07:17.000 I try to make it...

01:07:19.000 I guess I try to use it as a thing to bolster objectivity.

01:07:23.000 Like, I don't want to be just saying what the crowd wants to hear.

01:07:27.000 I don't want to be...

01:07:31.000 Right.

01:07:38.000 Right.

01:07:46.000 Yeah, that's a really good point.

01:07:47.000 You almost have to be in a sort of anti-social place, because if you're too social with these people, you won't judge them correctly.

01:07:56.000 I mean, like, look, people are very worried about, especially lately, about, like, advertising and shit influencing what people do and say. 0.66

01:08:06.000 Yeah. 0.90

01:08:08.000 People don't really realize that it's really just as much of a danger to become beholden to the audience or to the mob and to go along with, here's what we really want to hear from you.

01:08:20.000 For sure. 0.98

01:08:21.000 And it's like, well, that might be what you want to hear, but that's not what I'm gonna fucking say. 0.83

01:08:25.000 Hey, TJ, how about you stick to this? 0.65

01:08:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:08:28.000 Go back to your lane.

01:08:30.000 What's your lane, bro?

01:08:31.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you sound like you've experienced this as well.

01:08:35.000 Yeah, well, look, there are a lot of people out there in this world, and if you want to get opinions from every single one of them and consider them individually without meeting any of those people, to me, that's shitty data.

01:08:49.000 Okay, that's not good data.

01:08:51.000 If I know you, I've talked to you, if you tell me something, and you're a smart guy, I'll consider.

01:08:56.000 I'll be like, okay, well I know TJ, and TJ, if he's saying that, he wouldn't be saying it if he didn't believe it, so I have to think about what he's saying, and I'll have to go through my head and find out whether or not I agree with him.

01:09:05.000 I'd have to, you know, objectively look at it.

01:09:07.000 You could be talking to a million insane people.

01:09:10.000 You really, there's no way you could individually react to each one of them.

01:09:15.000 But you can get a sense of whether or not people are upset at you or not.

01:09:19.000 Oh, sure.

01:09:19.000 You can get a sense of whether or not Logical people make sense like that makes sense feel like you've crossed a line look I've noticed this really weird shift in the zeitgeist In the last like year or so And it's kind of started with this whole fake news thing You know the left was saying Trump got in because of fake news and then Trump saying oh the all the attacks against me are fake news and And I've seen on YouTube,

01:09:47.000 like, we used to do this kayfabe stuff on our show.

01:09:50.000 Kayfabe is like wrestling talk for, like, you know, fake. 0.98

01:09:54.000 The pageantry of it, like, we're just pretending drama and shit. 0.97

01:09:58.000 We used to do that all the time on my show, The Drunken Peasants Podcast. 0.97

01:10:01.000 Suddenly people turned on it.

01:10:02.000 They're like, we don't want this anymore. 0.97

01:10:04.000 And it's, you know, and I got shit because I did this sponsored ad for this app called Candid. 1.00

01:10:11.000 And people are like, you know, everything you say is bullshit because you did this sponsored spot for Candid and you're fucking a shill. 1.00

01:10:16.000 So we dismiss you. 1.00

01:10:18.000 And it's because everyone's on this big fucking authenticity kick. 0.97

01:10:23.000 But they're not really actually skeptical, though. 0.96

01:10:26.000 They just want a demagogue to spew, like, here's what you already think is true.

01:10:32.000 I am here to validate all of your feelings and all of your opinions.

01:10:36.000 And a lot of these people seem to want me to be that.

01:10:40.000 But I'm not that.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, they're going to want you to form to whatever their opinion of you is, and if you deviate from that, there's going to be a certain amount of people that are going to be upset.

01:10:51.000 But it's up to you to figure out like what...

01:10:54.000 The worst thing, I think, for any performer or artist is to get boxed into like kind of a fake thing, like maybe a character that you do or something along those lines, and then you can't get out of it.

01:11:07.000 Right. 1.00

01:11:07.000 Rick James, bitch! 1.00

01:11:09.000 Yeah, well, like Bobcat Goldthwait had the hardest time, because he had that, you know, that character that he would do, screaming and yelling Bobcat character. 0.99

01:11:17.000 And then he wanted to just eventually be Bob Goldthwait. 0.99

01:11:20.000 And people were like, no, fuck that, man. 0.99

01:11:22.000 Where's the Bobcat thing? 1.00

01:11:23.000 Like, it took him years to get away from that.

01:11:25.000 Love his films, by the way.

01:11:27.000 Oh, his films are great.

01:11:28.000 Did you see the Bigfoot movie?

01:11:29.000 No.

01:11:30.000 Willow Creek. 1.00

01:11:31.000 It's a fucking horror movie. 1.00

01:11:32.000 It's really good. 1.00

01:11:33.000 Is it?

01:11:34.000 He did it like a Blair Witch Project type thing of these people up there Sasquatch hunting.

01:11:42.000 I don't want to say any more about it.

01:11:44.000 It's really good.

01:11:45.000 I'm like a big skeptic.

01:11:46.000 I don't believe in a lot of this stuff, but I'm really fascinated by things like Bigfoot and aliens and the Loch Ness Monster and the Flat Earth and the Hollow Earth and all this stuff.

01:11:55.000 Don't believe in any of it. 0.75

01:11:57.000 In fact, I think most of it's like totally fucking ridiculous, but I find it really fascinating. 0.65

01:12:03.000 Because I kind of view it as almost like modern mythology. 0.99

01:12:07.000 You know, you kind of see the genesis of how people talk, you know, people used to talk about, like, succubuses coming in in the night and, you know, stealing their essence and shit and seducing them. 0.96

01:12:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:19.000 And you kind of see, like, the modern versions of that is like the alien that takes you up into a ship and shoves a probe up your ass or whatever. 0.99

01:12:26.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:27.000 Well, I think the alien thing absolutely has something to do with dreaming.

01:12:31.000 100%.

01:12:31.000 Because a giant percentage of these abduction events occur when someone's either napping or when someone's sleeping.

01:12:40.000 They're always unconscious.

01:12:42.000 Almost always.

01:12:43.000 Sleep paralysis.

01:12:43.000 Yeah.

01:12:44.000 Well, it's not even just that.

01:12:45.000 It's probably psychedelic compounds that are released in the brain during REM sleep. 0.99

01:12:51.000 The reason why you have these wacky fucking dreams. 0.99

01:12:53.000 I mean, you have dreams that are so insane. 0.99

01:12:56.000 They're like a psychedelic trip.

01:12:57.000 Yeah.

01:12:57.000 Like, imagination has control of the psychedelic chemicals that power your brain and runs you on a trip.

01:13:03.000 I mean, that's where ours are.

01:13:05.000 I had...

01:13:06.000 I don't really suffer from it too bad anymore, but, like, in my late teens and early 20s, I had really bad sleep paralysis.

01:13:14.000 Whoa.

01:13:14.000 And also, accompanying that was...

01:13:17.000 I forget if it's called hypnopopic hallucinations or hypnagogic hallucinations.

01:13:21.000 But I could tell you, right, you know, like...

01:13:26.000 I'll be laying in bed, or I would be at the time, and I would kind of wake up, but I wouldn't be able to move my body.

01:13:36.000 And aside from that, you feel the overwhelming sense of like, there's another presence here.

01:13:45.000 And it's ominous. 0.79

01:13:47.000 And you fucking, uh, if you have the hypnagogic hallucinations or the hypnopopic hallucinations, one is when you hallucinate as you're going into sleep, one is when you hallucinate as you're coming out. 0.98

01:13:57.000 I have the one where you hallucinate as you're coming out of sleep. 0.99

01:14:00.000 So, I would wake up, and, uh, probably the first time it happened, I was 11, and I saw this robed figure, like, walk across my bedroom.

01:14:10.000 Whoa.

01:14:11.000 And then when I was 15...

01:14:13.000 Did it look like a real thing?

01:14:15.000 Oh, yeah!

01:14:16.000 Like, it looked totally real.

01:14:17.000 It didn't look like it was transparent or anything?

01:14:19.000 No.

01:14:20.000 No, no.

01:14:20.000 It just looked like...

01:14:21.000 It was a dude with a robe.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, it didn't look like a dude, because it was like four feet tall.

01:14:25.000 Oh, like a gnome.

01:14:26.000 Yeah, I mean, I assumed it was like...

01:14:28.000 My uncle's a big UFO guy, so I'm like, I saw an alien.

01:14:32.000 And at the time, I was convinced of that.

01:14:35.000 Later, I became more skeptical.

01:14:36.000 And when I was like 15... 0.99

01:14:39.000 I woke up and I saw this fucking figure standing at the foot of my bed. 0.99

01:14:44.000 You ever seen the movie Dark City? 1.00

01:14:46.000 Yes.

01:14:46.000 It did that Sleep thing from Dark City, and I was like, okay, and I went back to sleep.

01:14:52.000 Holy shit, dude. 0.99

01:14:53.000 I woke up the next morning, I'm like, uh, if that happens again, I'm gonna fucking tackle this thing. 0.99

01:14:58.000 You sure that wasn't just a dream? 0.90

01:15:00.000 Uh, I'm pretty sure I was awake.

01:15:02.000 Because two weeks later, I saw it again, and I did like I planned to do. 0.96

01:15:08.000 I fucking jumped up and I tried to tackle it. 0.96

01:15:10.000 Whoa. 0.98

01:15:11.000 It just kind of disappeared in my arms when I got to it.

01:15:14.000 Dude.

01:15:14.000 And I was like, okay.

01:15:16.000 Well, that was okay.

01:15:17.000 I was relieved because I'm like, it was obviously a hallucination. 0.99

01:15:19.000 And I look up and its fucking head is floating there. 0.99

01:15:23.000 And then its head vanishes. 1.00

01:15:25.000 Whoa.

01:15:26.000 But these are just hallucinations.

01:15:29.000 Maybe. 1.00

01:15:30.000 Or maybe your fucking house is haunted, son. 1.00

01:15:31.000 They're not interdimensional beings. 1.00

01:15:33.000 How do you know?

01:15:34.000 You sound so confident. 0.99

01:15:36.000 I've read pretty extensively about it, because when that shit happens to you, you want to know what's going on here. 1.00

01:15:41.000 So when that shit happens... 0.99

01:15:43.000 And actually, they can induce that state. 0.99

01:15:47.000 They can put you into sleep paralysis, and you'll feel the presence, and you'll experience seeing things and all that stuff.

01:15:53.000 They can put you in that mindset.

01:15:54.000 It's a matter of electrically stimulating certain areas of the scalp, right?

01:15:58.000 Yeah.

01:15:58.000 Which is really fascinating, isn't it?

01:15:59.000 That they can actually target areas of the scalp and induce certain feelings and certain thoughts...

01:16:05.000 Yeah, we kind of delved into this last time we talked.

01:16:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:16:09.000 Consciousness and the afterlife and things of that nature.

01:16:11.000 I wonder, though, like, what would cause...

01:16:16.000 You to recall like an image from a really fucking cool movie like that and have it be like, what weird combinations of things would cause, you know like, something causes a hallucination to take a certain form.

01:16:28.000 Like what is it? 0.87

01:16:28.000 Is it your insecurities and fears? 0.87

01:16:30.000 Is your nightmarish vision?

01:16:33.000 It's probably just the same thing that leads you to have certain visions and dreams and things.

01:16:37.000 I mean like it's part of your memory and psychology just manifesting itself.

01:16:41.000 And imagination as well.

01:16:42.000 Yeah.

01:16:42.000 There was a guy, I was reading about his experiences, and he would see the guy from the front of the Exorcist poster standing in his room.

01:16:50.000 He'd see that silhouette holding the briefcase and shit and looking up at the building. 0.99

01:16:56.000 Dude, when I was a kid, that movie was fucking terrifying. 0.99

01:17:01.000 Like, if you could watch it today and never fully impact what it did to people like me... 0.97

01:17:07.000 What year is that?

01:17:09.000 I want to say it was like 76. Does that make sense?

01:17:12.000 Which means I was like nine years old.

01:17:14.000 Find out what year The Exorcist was.

01:17:17.000 What year was that?

01:17:18.000 I remember seeing the 25th anniversary.

01:17:20.000 73 is when it came out.

01:17:21.000 73. So I was younger than that.

01:17:22.000 Who the fuck let me watch that? 1.00

01:17:24.000 That was ridiculous, Mom. 1.00

01:17:25.000 Mom, how dare you? 1.00

01:17:27.000 But I remember being scared out of my fucking mind at this movie. 0.99

01:17:33.000 Yeah, there's the image right there. 0.99

01:17:34.000 That movie fucked with my head for years, and I started thinking about demons and the idea of being possessed and what could happen. 0.70

01:17:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:17:41.000 You watch it today, you'll laugh your ass off. 0.99

01:17:43.000 Oh, yeah.

01:17:44.000 I was watching that movie at my uncle's house, and my mom came in the room, and she's really easily frightened and stuff, and she just thought it was hilarious.

01:17:54.000 The Exorcist is hilarious.

01:17:55.000 I mean, it's funny by today's standards, but if you go watch it in the context, watch horror movies that came around around the same time and before it, and it's like, okay, you can kind of see why this blew people's minds at the time.

01:18:06.000 Well, when it happened, when that movie came out... 0.99

01:18:09.000 There had never been anything like on that level where a little cute little girl had becomes a demon and starts ramming a cross into her pussy. 1.00

01:18:18.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:19.000 Just fuck me father, fuck me father, slamming. 1.00

01:18:22.000 Was she saying fuck me Jesus? 1.00

01:18:24.000 What did she say? 1.00

01:18:24.000 I think she was just saying fuck me. 1.00

01:18:26.000 I don't remember what she was saying. 1.00

01:18:27.000 I think she was just like fuck me, fuck me! 1.00

01:18:28.000 Oh Jesus Christ. 1.00

01:18:30.000 I like when she's like your mother sucks cocks in hell. 1.00

01:18:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:18:33.000 It's a beautiful moment in cinematic history. 1.00

01:18:36.000 I couldn't believe that that was actually in a movie, that they said that in a movie. 0.99

01:18:39.000 Yeah, I mean, like, they would have trouble getting away with that fucking now. 0.99

01:18:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:18:43.000 Just given the age of the actress.

01:18:44.000 Oh, they wouldn't be allowed to.

01:18:46.000 It would be illegal now.

01:18:47.000 It would be illegal.

01:18:49.000 I mean, I don't know, it didn't, like, show anything, uh...

01:18:53.000 But, yeah, it would probably be controversial, even if it was made.

01:18:57.000 Just making that little kid act like that.

01:18:59.000 Yeah.

01:19:00.000 Like, look at those pictures of her, like, when she was screaming and yelling. 0.97

01:19:03.000 First of all, that little kid was fucking terrifyingly good. 0.95

01:19:07.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:19:07.000 And, you know, they, uh, she was... 0.98

01:19:09.000 They didn't, like, have much care for her well-being or anything, either. 0.90

01:19:13.000 Because, like, you know that scene where she's spasming and flopping up and down, they were doing that with wires, and that fucked her back up for life. 0.94

01:19:19.000 Really? 0.96

01:19:19.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:19:21.000 Oh, man.

01:19:22.000 Total disregard for her safety or well-being. 0.95

01:19:26.000 That fucked her back up for life when she was a little kid making this movie? 0.99

01:19:29.000 Yep. 0.98

01:19:30.000 Wow.

01:19:30.000 What did it do to her back?

01:19:31.000 Do you know specifically?

01:19:32.000 I don't know.

01:19:33.000 It just gave her back issues. 1.00

01:19:34.000 I don't know if they were severe or what, but something got pulled or something got out of alignment.

01:19:41.000 Wow.

01:19:41.000 I mean, you saw how violently they had her flopping up and down on that bed.

01:19:45.000 Yeah, that's not good.

01:19:46.000 So, you know, the standards were different, I guess, at the time.

01:19:49.000 But I think most people should realize, don't permanently injure a child just to get an effect you want in a movie.

01:19:58.000 My kids are watching this TV show.

01:19:59.000 It's like an old Disney show called Good Luck Charlie.

01:20:02.000 Yeah.

01:20:03.000 And Charlie's a little baby.

01:20:05.000 It's a baby baby.

01:20:07.000 It's the cutest little baby.

01:20:08.000 But it's a baby.

01:20:09.000 Yeah.

01:20:09.000 Like, maybe a year old or maybe two at the most.

01:20:12.000 Like, it's a tiny little thing.

01:20:14.000 And that's the main character. 0.97

01:20:16.000 Like, you imagine, like, not only do you not get to choose whether or not you want to be famous, want to be an actor, because you're a fucking baby, you can't even talk yet, you're already on TV, but the whole show's about you, so you can't quit. 0.89

01:20:31.000 Yeah, and you know, I was wondering, like, when I'm watching movies, like, you see babies, like, crying and stuff, and, you know, like, how'd they make that baby cry? 0.97

01:20:38.000 They bite him.

01:20:39.000 Does it seem ethical?

01:20:40.000 It doesn't really seem ethical.

01:20:41.000 It's definitely not ethical. 0.99

01:20:42.000 It's fucked up, man. 0.99

01:20:44.000 Like, that's why when people, like, make fun of that American Sniper movie for using that little shitty plastic baby that was obviously fake, I'm like, whatever. 1.00

01:20:53.000 It's better than fucking having some real kid and getting it to cry and stuff and whatever. 0.99

01:20:58.000 I blame Clint Eastwood on that. 0.99

01:21:00.000 Like, you should have framed that better.

01:21:02.000 Yeah.

01:21:02.000 Just frame away from that.

01:21:03.000 You could have sold it better.

01:21:04.000 Yeah.

01:21:04.000 You could have filmed that in a different way.

01:21:07.000 He films things a lot of times in a very sort of traditional way.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:10.000 I mean, he's a great director and everything like that, but how the hell did he not see that rubber baby?

01:21:14.000 Like, that looks so fake. 1.00

01:21:16.000 It looks so stupid. 1.00

01:21:17.000 He's pretty old. 1.00

01:21:18.000 You know, give him a little...

01:21:19.000 I guess, but doesn't he have somebody there with him in the editing room going, Mr. Eastwood, that's a rubber baby. 0.55

01:21:24.000 It's pretty obvious.

01:21:25.000 Who's going to tell Dirty Harry that the scene doesn't work, dude?

01:21:28.000 I don't know.

01:21:28.000 I know.

01:21:29.000 I know.

01:21:29.000 I get it.

01:21:31.000 Remember when...

01:21:32.000 That whole movie was very...

01:21:34.000 That was a weird time when that movie came out.

01:21:36.000 That was like a movie where you had to say you liked it.

01:21:38.000 If you didn't say you liked it, you risked violence.

01:21:41.000 I just didn't see it, so...

01:21:43.000 I saw it.

01:21:44.000 I've seen it since then, but at the time, I didn't watch it.

01:21:47.000 It just wasn't a very good movie.

01:21:50.000 No.

01:21:50.000 A lot of people loved the movie, and to them it was really good.

01:21:53.000 To me, it was so much, and this is probably my personal bias of being out here.

01:22:00.000 And being in Hollywood and knowing how writers work and knowing how they structure these things and what kind of effect the studio wants to have on the audience for a big mainstream movie.

01:22:10.000 You could feel the heavy hand of Hollywood all over it.

01:22:16.000 You could feel the way they were...

01:22:19.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 That fucked Jesse Ventura's career up a little bit, too.

01:22:46.000 Still does.

01:22:47.000 Yeah.

01:22:47.000 He was just on.

01:22:48.000 He was talking about it.

01:22:49.000 It cost him over a million dollars in legal fees.

01:22:51.000 Yeah.

01:22:52.000 And he's been doing it for, what, four years now?

01:22:54.000 He got a judgment in his favor, but then they shiftily took it away somehow.

01:22:59.000 I forget the exact...

01:23:00.000 Yeah, he lost on appeal.

01:23:01.000 Yeah.

01:23:01.000 It's not good.

01:23:02.000 The whole thing's not good.

01:23:03.000 Because he's a hero.

01:23:05.000 Well, it's really...

01:23:07.000 You know, truth is truth.

01:23:10.000 And you can't just make stuff up about people.

01:23:13.000 And, you know, maybe he should have dropped the lawsuit when the guy died.

01:23:17.000 You know, maybe that would have been better for everybody.

01:23:19.000 But that's his decision.

01:23:21.000 He felt like he was wronged and he felt like he was going after the publishers.

01:23:24.000 When the legend becomes truth, print the legend.

01:23:27.000 Yeah.

01:23:28.000 But...

01:23:29.000 It's just I think also you're dealing with the pressures of war being so alien to most people that when you and I who have not been to war sit around talking and debating about what it's like To be like the most decorated sniper ever or a guy who experiences that much action and sees that much death and to really try to Rationalize what goes in and out of their mind and like what their grasp on reality is like and then there's also the Opportunity that this guy has 0.98

01:23:59.000 if you're leaving the military and writing a book Why not just make a bunch of crazy shit up and make it even better to sell more fucking books? 0.93

01:24:07.000 You know, I mean It's very possible that someone would take that attitude. 0.98

01:24:12.000 Like, look, I'm not going to tell you most of the truth anyway, because it's none of your business, and some of it might be classified, and some of it might be... 0.99

01:24:20.000 Illegal for me to talk about, but maybe I make up a bunch of crazy shit. 0.98

01:24:23.000 Sell some books. 0.99

01:24:25.000 Now I'm in the selling me stage of my life.

01:24:28.000 Yeah, you know, and look, he was probably always doing that to some extent, you know, because, you know, you don't become the top American sniper unless you already have a preconceived notion of yourself as like, I'm this badass, and I'm this great warrior, and anything you can say to add to that,

01:24:43.000 you're gonna say.

01:24:44.000 Well, I think maybe. 0.61

01:24:45.000 Or maybe you could just be a badass sniper, right?

01:24:47.000 Couldn't you just be some dude who just excels? 0.56

01:24:50.000 Well, I mean, but you look at his character and the sort of stories that he's made up and shit, and it's obvious that while he did have actual skills, he was also fond of embellishing the skills he did have to make himself even more legendary.

01:25:02.000 Yeah.

01:25:03.000 And why is the question, you know, because there are people that think that the horrors of war, like we talked about, bend the mind and bend perception and bend the way you look at reality in some people more severe ways than other people.

01:25:17.000 Sure.

01:25:20.000 The request or the task that we give young people where they go off to war at fucking 18 years of age, and we ship them off, get them to shoot people, and then come back and integrate. 0.98

01:25:35.000 And try to be a normal part of society and then with almost no education, almost no assistance, no help, no carrying them along, no, you know... 0.93

01:25:44.000 I mean, you should be looking at them and talking to them very carefully.

01:25:47.000 You've asked them to do a crazy thing.

01:25:49.000 Yeah, I mean, especially at the... 0.96

01:25:50.000 You know, like, 18 is around the time when I was just willing to dump, like, pancakes on some dude's lap because he fucking, you know, said a cross thing to me. 0.64

01:25:59.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.84

01:26:00.000 To take people at that age and mindset who haven't even really...

01:26:04.000 I mean, I guess they've kind of reached the age of reason and stuff in the eyes of society, but, you know, they're not like fully formed adult minds yet.

01:26:13.000 It's like, hey, you're pretty much still a kid in a lot of ways. 1.00

01:26:17.000 Go overseas and kill some other people's fucking kids. 1.00

01:26:21.000 Let's just see what happens. 1.00

01:26:23.000 Go over there and blow some brains out. 0.99

01:26:24.000 Ooh, you blew out more brains than anyone else. 0.99

01:26:26.000 You're a hero.

01:26:27.000 You're great.

01:26:31.000 That's a weird way of looking at it, but that's what it is.

01:26:34.000 Yeah.

01:26:35.000 You know, when you're asking someone to do something before they're a certain age, like, you have a certain amount of authority over a 17-year-old or an 18-year-old when you give them a gun and tell them that they're supposed to do it.

01:26:47.000 They believe they're supposed to do it because you're older and you tell them that they're supposed to do it.

01:26:50.000 It's the reason why 40-year-old guys don't sign up for the Army. 0.99

01:26:55.000 Because when a guy's 40, might have a family of his own, might have a life of his own, he's like, wait, wait, wait, why the fuck are we going over there? 0.96

01:27:01.000 What have these guys done to us? 0.94

01:27:02.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:27:04.000 When are we charging?

01:27:05.000 At dawn?

01:27:05.000 Okay, what's the plan?

01:27:07.000 Like, you're going to ask questions.

01:27:08.000 They're not going to just trust you at face value.

01:27:10.000 And that's no good.

01:27:10.000 It's terrible.

01:27:11.000 When you want soldiers, you want someone who just listens.

01:27:15.000 Who are you listening to though?

01:27:17.000 Who are you listening to and why are you listening to that guy?

01:27:19.000 And how did you get into this situation?

01:27:22.000 Well, they don't think about that. 1.00

01:27:23.000 They're fucking 18. It's just asking people to go from that to regular life. 1.00

01:27:28.000 It's such a bizarre request.

01:27:29.000 Yeah, my stepdad tried to get me to join the military when I was younger because he saw me and like, your life has no direction.

01:27:35.000 You know what you need?

01:27:37.000 Military.

01:27:38.000 I thought about doing it.

01:27:40.000 I didn't really give it much thought.

01:27:41.000 I went to the recruiting office and let them give me a sales pitch.

01:27:44.000 Did you?

01:27:45.000 Yeah.

01:27:45.000 Oh, so you went that far.

01:27:46.000 I never went into a recruiting office.

01:27:48.000 Thank God.

01:27:49.000 I took a little aptitude test, and they're like, you could be military intelligence.

01:27:54.000 I'm like, eh.

01:27:56.000 But I heard that a lot of times they sucker you in with that, like, you're going to be military intelligence, but then if you don't cut it, they're like, well, you didn't cut it.

01:28:02.000 You're a grunt now.

01:28:03.000 Yeah, I have heard that. 0.99

01:28:04.000 I've heard that recruiters will bullshit you and, you know, tell you they're gonna get you some cool job inside the military, and then once you get in there, they give you a door to fuck the job they were thinking about giving you in the first place. 0.99

01:28:14.000 You know? 0.99

01:28:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:28:15.000 It's not like a college where you, you know...

01:28:18.000 Yeah, you get to choose your major and all this.

01:28:20.000 Yeah, there's none of that.

01:28:21.000 No.

01:28:22.000 They'll decide.

01:28:23.000 In many ways, it's like, it's sort of communist in a way.

01:28:27.000 You know?

01:28:28.000 You get paid very little, you work very hard, everything is for company.

01:28:31.000 Yeah.

01:28:31.000 You know?

01:28:31.000 It's really kind of weird.

01:28:33.000 Yeah, well, America has a strange relationship with that sort of collectivism.

01:28:37.000 When you think about it that way, it has to probably be that way in order for you to function together as soldiers in war.

01:28:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't think you...

01:28:45.000 I don't think you really want a unit where everyone's constantly questioning orders.

01:28:49.000 No.

01:28:50.000 I mean, as much as we kind of place value on that, like, you know, it's good to think for yourself and it's good to question things.

01:28:57.000 If you're trying to be an effective military, that's not what's good. 0.99

01:29:01.000 What's good is you do what you're fucking told. 0.99

01:29:03.000 Exactly. 0.99

01:29:04.000 So that's probably why they use 18-year-olds to begin with, but...

01:29:07.000 The problem is, you know, even if we're going to accept the reality that that's how it has to be, there has to be more oversight about where are we going to send these people, what reasons have to be in place for us to send these people.

01:29:19.000 And, you know, we're still in Iraq, we're still in Afghanistan.

01:29:23.000 Obama, during his presidency, bombed seven countries with drone strikes.

01:29:28.000 By the way, I don't know if you've ever seen the report that like 90% of drone strikes didn't kill their intended targets.

01:29:34.000 Yeah, 90% civilian casualties.

01:29:37.000 Yeah, so terribly ineffectual. 1.00

01:29:40.000 Our country is spreading bad will across the world, especially in the Middle East, which is like a hotbed of fucking crazy fucks anyway. 1.00

01:29:50.000 Just doing it that way in general, robots flying from the sky, you gotta make sure those things work. 0.99

01:29:58.000 You can't be that off where you're killing...

01:30:02.000 It was in the high 80%s, wasn't it, last time we checked?

01:30:05.000 What the civilian casualty rate was?

01:30:09.000 Unintended casualties for drone strikes?

01:30:12.000 You know, like, if you have any weapon that has, like, 10% effectiveness at killing its target, you know, like, that's not a good weapon. 1.00

01:30:19.000 That's a piece of shit. 0.99

01:30:20.000 It's just, but we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but listen, this way we don't have to send soldiers, and we just fly it in, and we just shoot the missiles, and we get the fuck out of there. 1.00

01:30:28.000 Like, that's really what they're saying.

01:30:30.000 I can see the appeal of that, but make sure the technology is there. 0.90

01:30:34.000 In a way, it might be, like, the most racist way to kill people. 0.89

01:30:39.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:30:40.000 We're not even willing to risk our own lives to kill you. 1.00

01:30:43.000 We're just going to kill you from afar. 0.99

01:30:44.000 And we're not as concerned about killing civilians. 0.99

01:30:47.000 Because no one's there doing it. 0.99

01:30:49.000 Because we're all the way in Nevada with a fucking Xbox controller. 0.99

01:30:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:30:53.000 And everyone we're killing is just some brown Muslim people, so it's okay. 1.00

01:30:56.000 Okay. 0.98

01:30:56.000 Nearly 90% of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. 0.98

01:31:00.000 And some of these still might have been bad people. 1.00

01:31:02.000 I mean, they're hanging around with fucking terrorists and shit. 1.00

01:31:06.000 Some of them were. 1.00

01:31:08.000 I mean, we saw in the Yemen raid that plenty of those victims were kids.

01:31:13.000 Is there footage of a drone, like, watching a drone shoot down something?

01:31:18.000 Is there?

01:31:19.000 I want to see what it looks like.

01:31:20.000 Like, see if you can pull up a video.

01:31:22.000 Is it from the drone's point of view, or is it people seeing the drone?

01:31:27.000 It is.

01:31:27.000 Usually you'll see it from the drone perspective.

01:31:29.000 I would like to see what it looks like, like a drone launch something.

01:31:32.000 If you were on the ground, you saw a drone launch something in the distance.

01:31:37.000 Here we go.

01:31:38.000 Just...

01:31:38.000 Yeah.

01:31:39.000 Yeah, that's what it usually is.

01:31:41.000 Like, so dehumanized.

01:31:42.000 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 1.00

01:31:44.000 You're dead. 1.00

01:31:45.000 Insane, too. 0.97

01:31:46.000 I mean, the way it takes people out.

01:31:47.000 Just some dudes walking down the street.

01:31:48.000 And then they empty into that.

01:31:50.000 Boom! 0.99

01:31:50.000 Look at that. 0.99

01:31:51.000 Look at that.

01:31:53.000 Look how he's mov- oh my god.

01:31:55.000 Can you imagine that?

01:31:56.000 Just walking down the street.

01:31:57.000 Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. 1.00

01:31:58.000 Boom! 1.00

01:31:58.000 You're dead. 1.00

01:31:59.000 Fucking fire- fireball of death consumes you. 1.00

01:32:02.000 Instantly. 1.00

01:32:05.000 Oh, man. 1.00

01:32:07.000 Incinerated off the face of the fucking earth. 1.00

01:32:09.000 Well, that WikiLeaks one. 0.99

01:32:12.000 The first one. 0.99

01:32:16.000 Yeah, you see I'm trying to get away and shit. 0.98

01:32:18.000 Collateral murder, remember they call it a collateral murder? 0.99

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:21.000 They put that video out and you get to see, like, how they're reacting to gunning these people down the street and they find out it's the wrong people.

01:32:28.000 Yeah.

01:32:29.000 It's like, whoops!

01:32:31.000 Yeah, like, wow.

01:32:33.000 And that this got out and it shouldn't have gotten out.

01:32:36.000 You know, that was the big WikiLeaks rub, right?

01:32:39.000 They shouldn't have released that.

01:32:41.000 We shouldn't know.

01:32:42.000 Yeah, we shouldn't know when our tax dollars fund the murder of civilians.

01:32:46.000 The accidental, unintended murder of a guy with a camera that you thought was a gun.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, but when you see the statistic that 90% of these strikes are killing the wrong people, I mean...

01:32:59.000 You know, I mean like it's happening all the time. 0.98

01:33:01.000 But isn't it crazy how shit their optics are that they can't tell the difference between a rifle and a camera at distance? 0.99

01:33:08.000 Yeah, and it's not even just the optics too. 1.00

01:33:10.000 It's bad intelligence.

01:33:12.000 Because they don't have to actually risk any troops, they'll just be like, someone says like, yeah, I think he's at this house.

01:33:18.000 Oh, okay.

01:33:19.000 Boom, boom, boom.

01:33:20.000 Yeah, that's true, right?

01:33:21.000 If they were on the ground, they wouldn't treat it that way.

01:33:24.000 If they were on the ground and we saw people on the ground, they were walking down the street and they saw the photographer with the camera, they probably wouldn't treat it.

01:33:32.000 There's no way they would just open fire and gun everybody down as soon as they saw the people.

01:33:35.000 So you just gun everybody down that you run into on your way to the bad guys?

01:33:40.000 The suspected bad guys? 0.99

01:33:41.000 But when you have that level of detachment where it's like, oh, this is like a fucking video game. 1.00

01:33:45.000 Oops, I killed some civilians. 0.99

01:33:47.000 Okay, we'll deduct some points from the scoreboard.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, because if you were on the ground, and the same thing happened, wouldn't you be judged differently?

01:33:54.000 Like, if you were on the ground, and you were moving down the street, and you saw a bunch of people in front of you, and one guy had a camera, and you just gunned them all down.

01:34:02.000 The women, the kids, everybody in front of them.

01:34:04.000 And you're like, well, you know, hey, they shouldn't have been out here with their kids, and I didn't think that was a camera.

01:34:09.000 Well, that's essentially exactly what the guy said from the helicopter, right?

01:34:13.000 Yeah, but it's different.

01:34:14.000 It's different because he's not there.

01:34:16.000 There's a level of detachment.

01:34:17.000 There's that wall of separation. 1.00

01:34:18.000 That wall of separation is kind of fucked. 1.00

01:34:20.000 Oh, it's terrible. 1.00

01:34:21.000 It's scary.

01:34:24.000 90%.

01:34:24.000 90. So...

01:34:28.000 Let's just keep doing it that way then, for sure.

01:34:30.000 Well, we're going to.

01:34:31.000 There's nothing we can do about it. 0.99

01:34:33.000 Look, when I talk about the collusion between the Democrats and the Republicans, this is the kind of shit I'm talking about. 0.99

01:34:40.000 This doesn't stop. 0.99

01:34:41.000 Military stuff.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, like, this stuff doesn't seem to stop.

01:34:44.000 That's a good point.

01:34:45.000 Whether it's D or R, this military, this American empire that we're trying to maintain across the globe, that keeps happening.

01:34:53.000 That's actually a very good point, because that stays consistent.

01:34:56.000 And then the battle over transgender bathrooms take front page of the news, but the war aspect of it stays consistent.

01:35:03.000 The drone aspect stays consistent, if it doesn't ramp up.

01:35:07.000 And it looks like it's ramping up a little bit with Trump, right?

01:35:11.000 Maybe.

01:35:12.000 I think that remains to be seen.

01:35:13.000 Yeah, does it?

01:35:14.000 Obama was pretty bad about it.

01:35:16.000 For sure.

01:35:17.000 I mean, he was extremely violent.

01:35:18.000 Drone strikes increased under him.

01:35:20.000 Now, some of that's just because the technology improved.

01:35:22.000 Well, there's a lot of things about him that were so confusing.

01:35:25.000 The drone strikes is just one of them.

01:35:27.000 How about the attacks on whistleblowers? 1.00

01:35:29.000 Like, whatever happened to what you said in your shit? 0.99

01:35:32.000 Like, you had that Hope and Change website. 0.99

01:35:33.000 Like, the whole thing was gonna...

01:35:34.000 You're gonna offer protection to whistleblowers.

01:35:37.000 Well, you have, like, one of the biggest whistleblowers in the history of the world.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:40.000 The idea of transparency, too.

01:35:43.000 That was a big thing.

01:35:44.000 Transparency, transparency.

01:35:45.000 But then you prosecute whistleblowers who revealed the illegal activities of the government.

01:35:50.000 That's why when Trump was like, he wiretapped Trump Tower, I'm like, so what?

01:35:54.000 He wiretapped America. 0.98

01:35:56.000 The NSA was, and still is, just gathering everyone's text messages, everyone's phone calls, archiving that shit in a big server somewhere. 0.99

01:36:05.000 So... 0.98

01:36:06.000 Hasn't he walked that back though?

01:36:09.000 Hasn't he said now that he doesn't think that it was a wiretap, that it was like something else?

01:36:13.000 Yeah, sure. 0.98

01:36:13.000 The point is that all the phones are fucking tapped now. 0.98

01:36:17.000 Of course. 0.98

01:36:18.000 So what does it matter?

01:36:19.000 Yeah.

01:36:19.000 That information's already there.

01:36:21.000 And you know, the crazy thing is that not only is it there for those agencies, but it's there for anyone who can hack into those agencies to get...

01:36:31.000 And you know, if the CIA, the NSA developed it, the CIA, we now know, has its own version of it. 0.98

01:36:38.000 I wonder how many private companies have their own version of this fucking server. 0.88

01:36:42.000 Yeah, when we found out that the CIA has their own version of it, everybody was like, what? 0.99

01:36:47.000 Them too?

01:36:48.000 Well, they're even worse than the NSA. How do you know?

01:36:52.000 Well, I guess I can't say with certainty they're worse, but the NSA's never been involved, as far as I know, in toppling the democratically elected leaders of other countries and installing puppets that are good for American business interests.

01:37:09.000 The CIA has.

01:37:11.000 Yes.

01:37:12.000 Numerous times.

01:37:13.000 Yeah, the idea of them all being able to listen to anybody's telephone calls, regardless of whether or not you're a terrorist, regardless of whether or not you're a felon, regardless of whether or not you're the nicest person of all time.

01:37:25.000 They're like, yep, let me just check.

01:37:27.000 Yep, you're still the nicest guy of all time.

01:37:29.000 Yeah, and they're using it for...

01:37:30.000 I mean, it's not just being used for terrorism.

01:37:31.000 They're using it for their drug war as well. 0.92

01:37:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:35.000 Well, the drug war is going to have to ramp up if this marijuana legalization keeps kicking in.

01:37:40.000 They're going to have to figure out some other way to arrest people.

01:37:42.000 They have to keep the same jobs.

01:37:44.000 I mean, they have a lot of jobs.

01:37:45.000 They're going to have to justify.

01:37:46.000 I mean, Jeff Sessions could come to the pot shops, like where I live, and I guess there's pot shops around here, too.

01:37:54.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:37:55.000 And they could fucking raid them. 1.00

01:37:56.000 They could shut them down. 1.00

01:37:57.000 Yeah, they could legally.

01:37:59.000 Yeah, because it's still illegal under federal law.

01:38:02.000 Obama chose not to do that.

01:38:03.000 He chose to respect the will of the states.

01:38:05.000 But the Trump administration is at least signaling that it's not going to.

01:38:10.000 Because of Sessions, you think?

01:38:11.000 I don't think it's just because of Sessions.

01:38:13.000 I think Sessions is where he is partially because they want to do this crackdown.

01:38:18.000 That's interesting.

01:38:19.000 You might be right.

01:38:20.000 We'll have to find out about that.

01:38:22.000 But the crackdown is not going to go well.

01:38:24.000 It's a terrible idea.

01:38:25.000 You let the genie out of the bottle.

01:38:26.000 You gave people their freedom. 1.00

01:38:28.000 That will be the death of the power of the Trump administration if they actually go through with something so stupid. 1.00

01:38:35.000 It would be stupid economically as well. 1.00

01:38:37.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

01:38:38.000 It would show...

01:38:39.000 I mean, you want to talk about transparency.

01:38:40.000 It will show really clearly...

01:38:43.000 Who your loyalty is to.

01:38:44.000 That it's not to the will of the people.

01:38:46.000 That it's to these companies that are benefiting from keeping marijuana illegal.

01:38:49.000 Period.

01:38:50.000 That's it.

01:38:50.000 And then we'd have to figure out a marijuana coalition.

01:38:53.000 We've got to figure out a way. 0.98

01:38:55.000 Like, there are fucking a hundred million of us, I guarantee you, in this country. 0.99

01:39:00.000 A hundred million people that smoke pot. 1.00

01:39:02.000 That's a lot of fucking people. 1.00

01:39:04.000 And that number's gonna grow. 1.00

01:39:05.000 It's a third of the country.

01:39:06.000 Yeah, and it's gonna grow the more things are people are like, I can't believe Rogan really believes a hundred million people's product buy. 1.00

01:39:13.000 You fucking idiot. 1.00

01:39:15.000 You fucking waste product buy. 1.00

01:39:18.000 There's a lot of fucking people. 1.00

01:39:19.000 I might have made that number up. 1.00

01:39:21.000 Let's say I did. 0.99

01:39:22.000 I fucking, I mean, I believe it. 0.99

01:39:24.000 I believe it's probably at least close. 0.99

01:39:26.000 Because even when I was living down south and I was hanging out with conservatives who love Trump...

01:39:30.000 They smoked a little weed.

01:39:31.000 Yeah, they're smoking weed.

01:39:32.000 Not a little weed.

01:39:33.000 They're smoking weed like crazy.

01:39:35.000 It's fun.

01:39:35.000 It's fun to get high.

01:39:36.000 There's nothing wrong with it.

01:39:37.000 The only thing that's wrong with it is the fact that it's been buttoned down into our brain...

01:39:41.000 Deep, deep in our memory, through propaganda, that it's bad for you.

01:39:44.000 That's it.

01:39:45.000 If you looked at the actual effects it has on you, like we were talking about schizophrenics and blaming marijuana on schizophrenia, but it still seems across the board to be 1%. 0.91

01:39:53.000 It's the same thing with dummies and lazy people.

01:39:56.000 When dummies and lazy people find out about pot, it ruins the idea of it for other people. 1.00

01:40:01.000 They go, oh, well, look, it's associated with this loudmouth dummy. 1.00

01:40:04.000 This loudmouth fucking lazy person never gets anything done. 1.00

01:40:07.000 He's always broke. 1.00

01:40:07.000 He's always asking for money. 1.00

01:40:08.000 That's a pothead. 1.00

01:40:09.000 Potheads don't get shit done. 1.00

01:40:10.000 Don't be a pothead. 1.00

01:40:11.000 And then you get that in your head and you just run with it.

01:40:13.000 We know there's plenty of potheads that are really industrious and hardworking.

01:40:17.000 Yeah, a lot of them.

01:40:18.000 You can't attribute something that was always part of someone's personality and say, well, marijuana caused that.

01:40:24.000 Exactly.

01:40:25.000 It doesn't totally change the nature of a person. 0.99

01:40:28.000 It's not that powerful of a fucking drug. 0.99

01:40:30.000 Nor does coffee. 1.00

01:40:31.000 No.

01:40:31.000 Nor does alcohol.

01:40:33.000 Nor do cigarettes, for that matter.

01:40:34.000 Exactly.

01:40:35.000 Well, alcohol can change some people.

01:40:37.000 That's true.

01:40:37.000 It was a bad example.

01:40:39.000 Canada's justice system is crumbling as cannabis raids continue. 1.00

01:40:43.000 So, they've been busting all these fucking pot places. 0.99

01:40:48.000 I thought you guys had your social justice warrior president and everybody was going to get to pick their own gender pronouns and now you're raiding pot places. 0.99

01:40:58.000 Okay, look at this.

01:40:59.000 6,500 cases in provincial court could be soon dropped due to delays, including 38 for homicide or attempted murder.

01:41:06.000 One terrible case last year, a man named Kenneth Williamson was convicted of raping a minor over 100 times, but because of lengthy delays in taking his case to trial, his conviction was overturned.

01:41:18.000 Wait, is that so they could prosecute more marijuana?

01:41:21.000 No, this is just saying that their system is in such crisis, and this marijuana case where they're arresting all these people for marijuana, it's insane because their justice system is already in the crisis.

01:41:36.000 So it says considering the justice system crisis, cannabis should obviously be the lowest priority for police and the courts, but it's not.

01:41:43.000 Not only are police launching more raids against dispensaries than ever before, but ridiculous charges for small-scale cannabis crimes are continuing from coast to coast.

01:41:53.000 So they have a justice system that's so broken that they can't even convict... 0.97

01:41:59.000 People who raped minors a hundred times.

01:42:02.000 They can't take them to trial. 1.00

01:42:03.000 But it's that broken, but they're still trying to fucking catch people for smoking weed and just raiding dispensaries and shit like that. 1.00

01:42:13.000 What a waste of fucking time. 0.99

01:42:15.000 If I had a guess, I would say it's some sort of compartmentalism, in that the drug people, they don't go after the other crimes, and then there's a legal system that's backed up. 1.00

01:42:25.000 But to put more people into the legal system, just because you have to somehow or another Justify the position that you're in.

01:42:33.000 A cop, a DEA cop, whatever they're called up there. 0.99

01:42:37.000 That's fucking crazy. 1.00

01:42:38.000 You got a broken system. 1.00

01:42:39.000 You're preying on people.

01:42:41.000 You're locking people up, putting them in a cage. 1.00

01:42:43.000 If you want to impress us, then convict that fucking rapist. 1.00

01:42:48.000 Don't fucking prosecute people who are smoking weed. 1.00

01:42:51.000 For sure. 0.98

01:42:52.000 And by the way, what you're doing right now seems like a crime.

01:42:54.000 You're locking people up in a cage for a plant that everybody on the planet knows is not bad for you. 0.96

01:43:00.000 So if you just decide that because of some fucking bullshit thing that's written on paper, that you should be able to go against all the science that's available today, all the common sense and the will of the people, and you should be able to go into people's houses, go into people's businesses, arrest them, take all their money, 0.98

01:43:16.000 take all their pot... 0.99

01:43:18.000 That's a crime.

01:43:19.000 That sounds like a crime.

01:43:19.000 It sounds like you're using your position and you're using it to just mark one up on the scoreboard.

01:43:26.000 We got some convictions today, good solid ones. 0.96

01:43:29.000 Bunch of dopers.

01:43:30.000 Caught us a bunch of dopers. 1.00

01:43:32.000 Had to let that crazed pedophile go, but we got all the dopeheads. 0.99

01:43:37.000 Yeah, finally got them dopers. 1.00

01:43:39.000 The real scourge of society. 1.00

01:43:41.000 That guy fucked a hundred kids, but you know what he didn't? 1.00

01:43:43.000 He didn't fuck them over by giving them pot. 1.00

01:43:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:43:46.000 At least he wasn't smoking no weed.

01:43:48.000 At least those kids are going to remember what he did to them.

01:43:50.000 It's not going to damage their memory.

01:43:52.000 Yeah.

01:43:53.000 They're gonna remember it.

01:43:54.000 They're gonna remember it explicitly.

01:43:56.000 Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:43:57.000 It's just, I can't believe that in this day and age, that shit is still going on. 0.99

01:44:02.000 It just seems like... 0.99

01:44:03.000 And Canada, I thought, with this Trudeau guy, was gonna be more progressive than ever.

01:44:09.000 Which...

01:44:09.000 Canadians are complaining about it like crazy, and I've had Jordan Peterson on the podcast, and he hates what's going on now with this push towards being as open-minded as possible, with all these accepting of the gender pronouns, and that you're going to have to start putting people...

01:44:24.000 You're going to have to start processing cases through the Human Rights Council, because if you don't use a person's proper gender pronoun, it could literally be considered a crime.

01:44:34.000 I think all that stuff on the left, when it goes way far...

01:44:37.000 It gets really crazy, but...

01:44:38.000 It's probably a good thing to balance out the stuff on the right, and people figure out some sort of comfortable medium.

01:44:44.000 But he's not being that at all.

01:44:46.000 If the president is allowing this to go on, he's not being this progressive president.

01:44:52.000 He's just not. 0.69

01:44:53.000 If he's only going to be progressive towards transgender pronouns and whatever other ridiculous laws that they're swamped with, This is just a terrible precedent to set. 0.99

01:45:04.000 Allowing them to lock people up for pot in 2017 is a fucking criminal waste of resources. 0.98

01:45:11.000 A criminal waste of manpower, a criminal intrusion on the freedom of those people that you're locking up. 0.99

01:45:21.000 Criminal on the disruption that you're putting into their lives and the money that you're taking away from them for trading in something.

01:45:27.000 And out of your economy as well. 0.97

01:45:28.000 Yes, and fucking your economy up. 0.87

01:45:29.000 And these people are trading in something that is very valuable to the community and to the human beings that consume it. 0.97

01:45:35.000 Yeah, you know, I consider myself probably more liberal than I am conservative, but when I see the priorities of liberals being identity politics shit, gender pronouns and stuff, and then so much of the real issues just get ignored like this, 0.99

01:45:54.000 that makes me hesitant to even say, like, I'm a liberal or I'm more left-wing than right-wing or whatever, because I'm just like, your priorities are totally fucked. 0.98

01:46:04.000 They're totally out of order. 0.99

01:46:06.000 You know, apparently in Canada, they're fighting all these fucking politically correct identity politics battles, but they can't deal with the pot issue. 0.98

01:46:17.000 Police raids against pot dispensaries are actually up, and they're trying to charge people with petty fucking weed-smoking crimes. 0.95

01:46:25.000 And this is a thing that people always go on about. 0.90

01:46:27.000 Like, it's because it's pot, it seems like it's not a big issue.

01:46:31.000 It's like, it's not, we got bigger fish to fry.

01:46:33.000 Yeah.

01:46:34.000 TJ, okay?

01:46:35.000 I don't know if you've been paying attention to the stock market, okay?

01:46:38.000 TJ? Do you know about the war in Afghanistan, TJ? Yeah.

01:46:40.000 Okay, we've got problems.

01:46:41.000 Real problems. 1.00

01:46:42.000 This fucking pot thing. 1.00

01:46:43.000 You goddamn potheads. 1.00

01:46:44.000 If it's not for your pot, oh, why do I do whatever... 1.00

01:46:46.000 But it's not that.

01:46:48.000 And this is what people have to realize.

01:46:50.000 It's about personal freedom.

01:46:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:46:52.000 It's about a person telling you what you can't do and enforcing it to the point of putting you in a fucking cage. 1.00

01:46:58.000 And that thing which had been an accepted part of civilization for thousands of years and is today accepted. 0.98

01:47:06.000 It's an accepted part of civilization right now.

01:47:09.000 But there's just these... 1.00

01:47:11.000 People that don't engage in it that don't understand it and that feel like they have the right to go and lock people up for it You know when the Trump administration started signaling that they were gonna Take on weed or that they were thinking about it at least that it was on the table So stupid. 0.99

01:47:27.000 At that point, I made a video where I was basically making all the cases why this is terrible. 0.98

01:47:33.000 This is a bad idea.

01:47:36.000 I made the economics argument.

01:47:37.000 I made the personal freedom argument.

01:47:40.000 I pointed out the tremendous amount of revenue this is generating for the states that have legalized it.

01:47:46.000 And a huge part of the response was just like...

01:47:50.000 Yeah, oh yeah, of course he goes after Trump when Trump goes after his precious weed.

01:47:56.000 That's when he cares.

01:47:58.000 That's the only thing that got him to care.

01:48:00.000 It's like, what are you talking about? 0.99

01:48:01.000 I made fucking so many cogent arguments that hold water about the economic and personal liberty ramifications of something like this, and all you want to focus on is my personal usage of this fucking substance. 1.00

01:48:16.000 It's bullshit. 1.00

01:48:17.000 You bet. 1.00

01:48:18.000 It's a good thing to talk about, because it'll get you talking about it, like, right now.

01:48:22.000 Sure.

01:48:22.000 It'll get you.

01:48:23.000 It'll poke at you.

01:48:24.000 They know.

01:48:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:24.000 Because they know that people like you and I really do enjoy our marijuana.

01:48:28.000 And when you try to take away the pot, we really do get upset.

01:48:31.000 Yeah.

01:48:32.000 I was kind of on the give Trump a chance bandwagon until they started signaling this stuff. 0.99

01:48:37.000 So that's really why I got shit. 0.99

01:48:39.000 It's a very, very foolish thing to try to step in in 2017 with all the science and all the information and the public opinion and to say that marijuana is something that can get you locked up. 1.00

01:48:50.000 Get you locked up! 1.00

01:48:50.000 That it's almost as bad as heroin, for fuck's sake. 1.00

01:48:52.000 He's so stupid. 1.00

01:48:54.000 That's a silly man. 1.00

01:48:55.000 That guy needs a pot brownie more than anything in this life. 1.00

01:48:58.000 He just needs a quarter.

01:49:00.000 Just give him a quarter. 0.68

01:49:01.000 Let him sit there and let him think about his grandchildren.

01:49:03.000 Let him think about fishing and let him think about just napping in the sun and going to meet the good lord in a few years. 1.00

01:49:09.000 You don't have much time left, motherfucker. 1.00

01:49:11.000 You want to ruin it for potheads? 1.00

01:49:12.000 You're barely alive. 0.99

01:49:14.000 Your hair's white, your posture's bad, and you're standing there lying.

01:49:18.000 You're lying on television about heroin and pot being, like, really close. 0.99

01:49:21.000 That's a crazy person who doesn't know what pot does. 1.00

01:49:24.000 You're talking about pot, you obviously have no idea what it's like. 0.98

01:49:27.000 It's like a person who's colorblind, describing some sort of a kaleidoscope.

01:49:31.000 You don't know what you're even talking about.

01:49:34.000 For a guy like him, if you want to have a person who's talking about individual experiences, they should have had, like if you're talking about someone who's talking about the effects of a chemical and whether or not it should be legal, they should have had some sort of experience with that chemical.

01:49:51.000 They should know what it's doing.

01:49:52.000 They should understand it, especially if it's safe, something like marijuana. 0.98

01:49:56.000 So for you to talk about it and to have these ridiculous... 0.98

01:49:58.000 You can't... 0.95

01:50:00.000 You can't invest one evening in a safe environment.

01:50:03.000 They'll do it in a laboratory or a hospital somewhere, pad up the rooms, and give you a pot cookie.

01:50:08.000 And then put Pink Floyd's The Wall on. 0.99

01:50:13.000 Someone, tell this fucking guy what it really is. 1.00

01:50:16.000 Because he's just talking out of his ass. 1.00

01:50:18.000 I don't know if this is just apocryphal or if this is an actual story, but I remember there being something about him saying that he thought the KKK were good guys until he found out they smoked weed. 1.00

01:50:28.000 No.

01:50:28.000 That was, I think that was wrongly attributed to him.

01:50:32.000 Okay.

01:50:32.000 And that, not only that, there has been evidence that he's done many things for civil rights.

01:50:38.000 I had read that, too.

01:50:39.000 But I think that's, it just might be the case of people being overzealous and trying to paint, I mean, you could find things, I'm sure that you've said or that I've said, if you take them completely out of context, you could paint a very different opinion.

01:50:51.000 Definitely.

01:50:51.000 It's fucking very hard to form an opinion of someone, like a legitimate opinion of someone without actually knowing them.

01:50:57.000 But you can have an opinion of their policy. 0.98

01:51:00.000 It's not that hard when they go out and say that pot is nearly as dangerous as heroin, because at that point you're just like, this person is either delusional or is willfully deceptive.

01:51:10.000 Right.

01:51:10.000 And the important part about it is it's not just a person.

01:51:13.000 It's a person with an extreme amount of power.

01:51:15.000 Yeah.

01:51:15.000 It's a person in a very dangerous position of enforcing laws.

01:51:18.000 And you go, okay, well, you think that?

01:51:20.000 That's crazy.

01:51:21.000 That's not true.

01:51:22.000 That's not true.

01:51:23.000 Like, it just drives me nuts because I think it helps people.

01:51:27.000 I really do.

01:51:28.000 I really do think it's probably one of the best elements in terms of a happy, healthy society, staying grounded and being a little more kind.

01:51:40.000 I think it gives you a certain percentage more of kindness.

01:51:44.000 Yeah, I mean, I've definitely seen it make people more empathetic, more tolerant towards one another.

01:51:50.000 I've seen people who have anxiety that it helps.

01:51:54.000 I've seen people who have anxiety that it exacerbates their anxiety too.

01:51:57.000 The edibles do, for sure.

01:51:58.000 Like the story I told about my brother at the beginning of the show.

01:52:01.000 But by and large, I know a lot of people with bad anxiety who smoke weed and it makes them feel better, it makes them feel more comfortable in social situations, stuff like that.

01:52:10.000 You know what it does too, bro? 0.99

01:52:11.000 It makes you fucking talk about weed. 0.99

01:52:13.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:52:13.000 How come you guys keep talking about weed? 0.99

01:52:15.000 I get it.

01:52:15.000 You like weed.

01:52:16.000 Enough already, bro.

01:52:19.000 I can read that now.

01:52:20.000 I can read it in the comments.

01:52:21.000 It's there.

01:52:22.000 It's already there.

01:52:22.000 Someone's typing it up right now.

01:52:23.000 Stop talking about weed.

01:52:25.000 I'm gonna get them.

01:52:25.000 I know TJ reads these.

01:52:27.000 Motherfucker. 1.00

01:52:28.000 I'm gonna get them. 1.00

01:52:29.000 Don't talk about this.

01:52:30.000 Talk about this instead. 1.00

01:52:31.000 Suck it. 1.00

01:52:32.000 Feel the burn, you motherfucker. 1.00

01:52:35.000 Well, if you don't want us to talk about weed, then tell Jeff Sessions to stop signaling he's going after it. 1.00

01:52:40.000 Jeff Sessions needs to get high on mushrooms.

01:52:42.000 Get that guy in a nice room with velvet curtains and some gentle Jefferson airplane from the 1960s.

01:52:48.000 Real low candlelight.

01:52:51.000 Put some blacklight posters on the wall.

01:52:52.000 You don't need that.

01:52:53.000 He needs the blacklight.

01:52:55.000 I want him to just sit there and stare at a poster and watch it change shapes and colors a bunch of times and like, whoa.

01:53:02.000 Yeah, you know what we do?

01:53:03.000 We do blacklight posters.

01:53:04.000 There he is.

01:53:04.000 But only, only...

01:53:07.000 It's hard to imagine that fucker on shrooms. 1.00

01:53:09.000 No, it's not. 1.00

01:53:10.000 Easy.

01:53:10.000 I see him wearing like an African garb.

01:53:13.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:53:14.000 Like some sort of macrame beads around his neck and shit. 0.88

01:53:17.000 But all the posters on the wall, they're all that Bruce Lee poster from Enter the Dragon with the blood across his chest. 0.98

01:53:23.000 That's the greatest velvet poster of all time.

01:53:26.000 It's the ultimate trailer park kung fu master poster. 0.79

01:53:30.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

01:53:31.000 Have that motherfucker up. 1.00

01:53:32.000 Have him watch that. 1.00

01:53:33.000 Watch all the things it turns into.

01:53:36.000 Yeah.

01:53:37.000 Poor old guy.

01:53:38.000 He's gonna go to his grave without trying mushrooms.

01:53:40.000 He's gonna go to his grave thinking weed is as bad as heroin.

01:53:43.000 Maybe he took mushrooms and that was the revelation he had.

01:53:46.000 Wow, marijuana is almost as bad as heroin is. 1.00

01:53:50.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

01:53:51.000 Because it doesn't kill you. 1.00

01:53:53.000 And it's actually better for a lot of people for pain than even heroin is.

01:53:57.000 Especially edible pot.

01:53:59.000 Edible pot is supposed to be really good for people that have chronic pain.

01:54:01.000 Just a massive reducer of inflammation.

01:54:04.000 But you can function on it.

01:54:07.000 Especially physiologically, you can function.

01:54:09.000 If you do something you already know how to do and you're high on pot, especially pot edibles, it doesn't have any performance decreasing elements to it.

01:54:20.000 It doesn't decrease your performance.

01:54:22.000 In fact, a lot of people do it right before they do jujitsu because they think it increases their performance.

01:54:27.000 I've known people who get high before they go work out, because they're like, yeah, you know, it's gonna keep me more focused and, you know, especially if you're smoking like a strong sativa strain, it might give them a little energy burst.

01:54:38.000 Yeah, you feel it, man.

01:54:39.000 You feel like the fibers of your muscles.

01:54:41.000 It's great before yoga.

01:54:43.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't really do a lot of like physical activities that much, but like if I'm gonna do like stretching or something, it's nice to be high and just like, you know.

01:54:51.000 It's the best.

01:54:52.000 Your muscles are way more relaxed and stuff.

01:54:55.000 You're able to get...

01:54:55.000 You have, like, flexibility you don't really have if you're just stone-cold sober.

01:55:00.000 And all your tension is still there.

01:55:01.000 And it feels really good.

01:55:03.000 Like, when you're stretching your high, it feels like, ooh, you're supposed to be doing this.

01:55:06.000 You should do this more often, dude.

01:55:08.000 Like you just have a better accounting of what the signals your body sending you because I think when you're when you're sober You know you can try to think about all your different areas and tune into the body and all the the various points of contact where the Elbows meet the forearm and think about all the muscle tissue,

01:55:27.000 but you have to like really Go through it Like, step by step and be really conscious of what you're doing.

01:55:34.000 When you smoke pot, it's just there for you.

01:55:35.000 I really enjoyed watching you fight with Steven Crowder about this, by the way. 0.99

01:55:39.000 Oh, he's a silly boy when it comes to pot. 1.00

01:55:42.000 He's a silly boy overall. 1.00

01:55:43.000 I've had some dealings with him. 0.99

01:55:45.000 The pot thing is interesting though.

01:55:47.000 He didn't want to even debate it.

01:55:49.000 Like when we were pulling up the information, he thought I was being a bully because we were pulling up things that showed contrary to what he was saying about car accidents.

01:55:56.000 I've since looked into it and the American Automobile Association has some statistics where they think that it's increasing.

01:56:05.000 There's an increased number of people that have marijuana in their system when they have the car accidents.

01:56:10.000 But the real problem with that is there might be just as much of an increase in those people smoking marijuana in that area.

01:56:16.000 It might not be related to the accident.

01:56:18.000 Just because it's connected to the accident doesn't mean it caused the accident.

01:56:22.000 If you're going to make the car accident argument, too, you've got to realize alcohol is causing way more traffic accidents than weed is.

01:56:29.000 Well, that was what they were talking about.

01:56:31.000 In these places, there's a lot of the places where people are smoking pot.

01:56:33.000 There's a decrease, a decrease in DUI fatalities.

01:56:37.000 There's a decrease in violent crimes.

01:56:39.000 There's quite a few different statistics to look at, but Colorado seems to be saying there's a decrease in these car accidents and in DUI-related incidents.

01:56:49.000 You know, Stephen Crowder wanted to sue me, too.

01:56:51.000 Why do you want to see me?

01:56:53.000 We were on the same network for a while on YouTube, and it was called Polypop.

01:56:59.000 And the guy that was my assigned... 0.99

01:57:02.000 I forget what the position's called, the fucking... 0.99

01:57:16.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:57:26.000 Gets up from the ground.

01:57:28.000 He's facing away from you.

01:57:29.000 It looked like someone pushed him from behind.

01:57:32.000 Did you see the whole video?

01:57:33.000 Yeah.

01:57:33.000 Well, the beginning of it, the guy threw a punch at him.

01:57:35.000 Well, the guy was on the fucking ground... 0.99

01:57:39.000 At one point. 0.99

01:57:40.000 Yeah, but you don't really see what happens with him.

01:57:42.000 You see the guy throw a punch at him first.

01:57:45.000 I'm very familiar with the video.

01:57:46.000 I don't know.

01:57:47.000 I looked at it.

01:57:48.000 The guy's in his face.

01:57:49.000 Can we maybe see the video?

01:57:51.000 The guy's in his face.

01:57:52.000 The guy comes close to him.

01:57:53.000 They get into some sort of a grappling situation where the guy physically manhandles him.

01:57:57.000 Alright, hold on.

01:57:58.000 This is on Crowder's channel.

01:57:59.000 I want to see the...

01:58:00.000 There's like an unedited version of this somewhere.

01:58:03.000 But you can see the full altercation when it does happen.

01:58:06.000 Let's take a look.

01:58:07.000 Even on Crowder's channel.

01:58:09.000 Scroll ahead a little bit.

01:58:11.000 I want to get to...

01:58:12.000 I'll tell you what.

01:58:13.000 That's the guy.

01:58:14.000 That's the guy who hits him.

01:58:15.000 Oh, wait. 0.95

01:58:16.000 The guy's telling him to back the fuck up. 0.97

01:58:18.000 So he puts his hands up and backs the fuck up. 0.96

01:58:19.000 That's the guy that fights him right there. 0.96

01:58:21.000 The guy with the mustache.

01:58:22.000 Which guy?

01:58:23.000 The mustache dude.

01:58:25.000 Oh, this guy.

01:58:26.000 Okay.

01:58:26.000 You see that?

01:58:27.000 Uh-huh.

01:58:28.000 There's a missing piece of footage there.

01:58:31.000 But in the footage I saw, you don't see that guy attack him first.

01:58:35.000 You see that guy get up from being on the ground...

01:58:38.000 On his stomach.

01:58:39.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

01:58:40.000 So something happened.

01:58:41.000 And so what I was thinking is, did Steven Crowder push this guy?

01:58:44.000 I don't know, because there's no footage on there.

01:58:47.000 But I surmised, based on what I looked at in the footage, that this guy was maybe pushed and then got up and then started wailing on Crowder.

01:58:54.000 Interesting.

01:58:55.000 And I put that out there, and here's the interesting thing.

01:58:57.000 He said he was going to sue me for what I said about it.

01:59:01.000 He then later went to court and a judge looked at the footage and kind of came to the same conclusion I did and said, I don't think that this went down the way you're saying based on the footage I see. 0.71

01:59:12.000 He lost that court case and then he had to drop any sort of idea of a lawsuit against me because a judge had already ruled that the tape was bullshit, didn't really show what he thought it should.

01:59:22.000 There's also instances where I challenged him to debates back in the day, not recently.

01:59:27.000 But he would never acknowledge me.

01:59:29.000 I mean, one time he did send his, like, little brother after me.

01:59:32.000 His brother?

01:59:33.000 Yeah.

01:59:33.000 Like, I don't know if it was his younger brother or his older brother.

01:59:35.000 I think it was his little brother. 1.00

01:59:36.000 Was like, you're a fucking faggot or whatever. 1.00

01:59:38.000 I'm like, why won't your brother debate me? 1.00

01:59:40.000 Because we were at the time on the same network.

01:59:41.000 You're saying he sent him after you physically?

01:59:43.000 No, no.

01:59:44.000 Just on Twitter.

01:59:45.000 Oh, okay.

01:59:46.000 You gotta specify that.

01:59:47.000 I'm sorry.

01:59:47.000 I'm thinking two dudes are looking at each other outside a bar.

01:59:49.000 He didn't come and try to fucking fuck me up or anything. 1.00

01:59:53.000 He's just talking shit on Twitter. 1.00

01:59:54.000 So he talks shit on Twitter. 1.00

01:59:56.000 You sure that's Stephen's brother? 1.00

01:59:57.000 It was.

01:59:58.000 Okay.

01:59:58.000 Yeah, it was Stephen's brother.

01:59:59.000 But Stephen himself has never taught...

02:00:02.000 I've made several videos about him.

02:00:03.000 Maybe not several, like three.

02:00:06.000 But he's never confronted me.

02:00:09.000 Polypop tried to get us to do a debate at the time.

02:00:11.000 He wouldn't do it.

02:00:12.000 That seems weird.

02:00:13.000 And it's weird because he's Mr. I'm gonna go...

02:00:16.000 He just trolled Cenk Uygur the other day.

02:00:19.000 I thought that was funny. 0.99

02:00:20.000 His impression of Cenk Uygur is fucking funny. 0.98

02:00:23.000 It is pretty spot on. 0.98

02:00:24.000 The one that he did where he played Anna and Cenk back and forth?

02:00:27.000 I didn't see that. 0.99

02:00:28.000 Oh, fucking pull it up. 0.99

02:00:29.000 He'll let us use it. 1.00

02:00:30.000 Look, I like Steven Crowder.

02:00:32.000 I do.

02:00:32.000 I really do.

02:00:33.000 I think he's a good guy.

02:00:35.000 He's a little bit heavy on the right wing. 0.99

02:00:38.000 He gets a little silly. 1.00

02:00:39.000 But he does some funny shit like this. 0.99

02:00:41.000 And when he crashed Cenk's thing, the saddest thing was how Cenk was responding to it. 0.99

02:00:46.000 He didn't have any sense of humor about it.

02:00:50.000 Well, Cenk obviously takes himself very seriously for some reason.

02:00:54.000 They didn't mean any AR-37s.

02:00:56.000 Do the research.

02:00:57.000 That's absolutely correct.

02:00:58.000 We'll have it listed, uh, at GOC. Yes!

02:01:02.000 I agree with you, Cenk. 0.97

02:01:05.000 So f***ing much. 0.96

02:01:06.000 That's absolutely right. 0.96

02:01:07.000 When you use the F word, you know it's real talk. 0.99

02:01:09.000 I said f***. 0.98

02:01:10.000 So we have a bunch of people... 0.94

02:01:12.000 Anyway, you can see it online.

02:01:14.000 At one point, he's pouring bacon grease down his mouth.

02:01:16.000 I just thought it was funny.

02:01:18.000 I think it was pretty funny.

02:01:19.000 Look, you've got to be able to make fun of yourself.

02:01:22.000 I recently sat down.

02:01:26.000 We went and watched a bunch of Young Turks videos so we could put out this special Drunken Peasants vs.

02:01:32.000 the Young Turks We shot about five hours of us watching Young Turks videos and just tearing them apart. 0.98

02:01:39.000 And one of the things I noticed is what Cenk will do, and watch for this if you're ever watching his shit, he'll have his panel say something that's like super crazy left-wing. 0.95

02:01:51.000 Like someone will say it, like Anna will say it, or one of the Stephen O, or whatever, whoever he's got on. 0.98

02:01:56.000 Ben Mankiewicz, whatever.

02:01:58.000 They'll say something that's real far left-wing.

02:02:02.000 And then it'll cut to Cenk.

02:02:03.000 And Cenk will have more of like a moderate left-wing opinion.

02:02:08.000 And then it'll go back to them and they'll immediately capitulate to Cenk.

02:02:12.000 Like, oh yeah, Cenk.

02:02:14.000 What you're saying is way more sensible than what I said a second ago.

02:02:17.000 And I just saw that pattern recurring over and over and over again.

02:02:20.000 So I don't know if that's like by design or if they're just they feel like the need to capitulate to him because they're maybe scared of him or something.

02:02:27.000 Or what?

02:02:29.000 There's definitely a lot of emotions going on there, too.

02:02:32.000 There's a lot of emotion in the way they describe things.

02:02:35.000 And some people, I think, at least initially connected to that.

02:02:38.000 But then they see where it gets problematic if you're dealing with any really serious issue and you want to debate just the facts and have your ducks in a row.

02:02:47.000 The wool over my eyes was the Harris debate, of course.

02:02:50.000 I think most people.

02:02:51.000 Exactly.

02:02:51.000 That was the first major chink in the Cenk Uygur armor.

02:02:57.000 I never know how to pronounce his first name, so when you said it that way, I was like...

02:03:00.000 Jank.

02:03:00.000 I think it's pronounced Jank.

02:03:02.000 Jank in the Jank.

02:03:04.000 Jank in the Jank.

02:03:05.000 There we go.

02:03:06.000 I think he's a good guy.

02:03:07.000 I like talking to him, too.

02:03:09.000 I just think people handle certain types of confrontation and disagreements.

02:03:14.000 And they don't handle them the best way they could and then those things escalate and they compound and then it becomes who you are and then you're defending who you are and Then you're always trying to argue with people about who you are and what you've done and like that's when you're gone Yeah, that's when you're over the top. 0.99

02:03:29.000 It's like we've done that we've done that and we've done this we've done that like Hey, you're talking about shit. 0.98

02:03:35.000 That's happening in the world. 0.99

02:03:36.000 That's all you're doing That's all any of us are doing. 1.00

02:03:38.000 That's all anybody's doing Unless you're out there digging wells in the Congo with Justin Wren, what you're doing is you're talking about shit. 1.00

02:03:46.000 So if you've got a bunch of people listening to you talk about shit, it's just talking about shit. 0.99

02:03:51.000 At the end of the day, you don't get any extra points because more people are listening or more people are watching. 0.99

02:03:57.000 Your point isn't more valid.

02:03:59.000 Your point still has to stand up in the marketplace of ideas.

02:04:02.000 And yours is just as valid as his, is just as valid as mine.

02:04:06.000 If the delivery system is a bigger delivery system, it doesn't mean that everybody has to stop and take you into account because you've had more success in this market. 0.99

02:04:16.000 That's a crazy way of looking at shit. 0.99

02:04:18.000 Sure. 1.00

02:04:19.000 And when him and Alex Jones battle back and forth between who gets the most viewers and who has the most viewers, I'm like, holy shit, this is ridiculous. 0.98

02:04:28.000 Did you see when Alex went onto the stage at South by Southwest? 0.98

02:04:32.000 Is that what it was, South by Southwest?

02:04:33.000 I think so.

02:04:34.000 Yeah, last year.

02:04:35.000 It was hilarious.

02:04:36.000 Oh yeah, that was one of the greatest trollings of all time.

02:04:40.000 But Cenk got so mad. 1.00

02:04:41.000 He was screaming and yelling, you fucking dumbass! 1.00

02:04:44.000 We oppose Saudi Arabia! 1.00

02:04:46.000 That little weasel Jimmy Dore spitting on fucking Alex Jones, dude. 1.00

02:04:52.000 You know what's unfortunate? 0.99

02:04:53.000 That guy Jimmy Dore does some good stuff.

02:04:55.000 I've seen some of his stuff, too.

02:04:57.000 He's put some really good videos up.

02:04:59.000 He's done some really good work.

02:05:02.000 People aren't perfect.

02:05:03.000 I don't really care for him.

02:05:05.000 But you recognize that some of his stuff's really good, right?

02:05:08.000 I've never seen the stuff that's good.

02:05:10.000 Maybe it's out there.

02:05:11.000 I haven't seen it.

02:05:12.000 I've seen it make some good points.

02:05:14.000 Very good points.

02:05:15.000 You know, when he was covering the whole Milo thing, he played a very deceptive version of the Milo clip, and he credited us basically as a podcast, and talked about us as like, we're doing this podcast from a basement somewhere or something.

02:05:31.000 Meanwhile, isn't it funny that a podcast like yours, which gets hundreds of thousands of downloads, I'm sure, right?

02:05:37.000 Like, if it was more than that, he would have to say the name of the podcast, right?

02:05:41.000 Like, if he was on the Adam Carolla Show, he would say, the Adam Carolla Show.

02:05:45.000 Sure.

02:05:45.000 Because it's yours.

02:05:46.000 Even though he knows what it's like, like, not gonna give these guys credit.

02:05:49.000 And, you know, a lot of the media did that to us.

02:05:51.000 I was, I was, uh, there was, like, transcripts of the Milo episode where it was like, and then unknown host said this. 1.00

02:05:59.000 It's like, fuck you! 1.00

02:06:00.000 I'm not in a bunker! 1.00

02:06:01.000 What?!

02:06:03.000 You guys can't just look it up?

02:06:05.000 Aren't you supposed to be like journalists? 0.99

02:06:07.000 Can't you figure out what the fuck the podcast was? 0.97

02:06:09.000 And I saw ones that attributed stuff to me, but then had stuff of yours. 0.98

02:06:16.000 Yeah.

02:06:17.000 Where they didn't even...

02:06:18.000 I didn't know that you guys had them on. 0.99

02:06:20.000 I thought that all the shit was coming from my podcast. 0.99

02:06:22.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:06:23.000 Because I got a text message from my friend Chris McGuire informing me of all of it.

02:06:27.000 And so I went and I said, well, this isn't even my podcast.

02:06:30.000 And then I realized, like, oh, he was on your podcast, too.

02:06:33.000 And they combined the two different things.

02:06:35.000 I even saw people say, like, he was on Joe Rogan's Drunken Peasants podcast. 0.99

02:06:40.000 It's like, wow, people are supposed to trust you for fucking information? 0.99

02:06:44.000 You're supposed to be a fucking credible source? 1.00

02:06:46.000 You can't even get this basic shit right? 1.00

02:06:49.000 The media is a fucking joke. 1.00

02:06:51.000 Well, the media now is. 1.00

02:06:53.000 It's a total fucking joke. 0.98

02:06:54.000 There's, like, a few places we can still trust. 0.99

02:06:56.000 Like where?

02:06:57.000 I'm hoping you around the answer to that.

02:06:59.000 Dude, because you know what?

02:07:00.000 People come to me all the time and they're like, TJ, what news media outlet do you trust?

02:07:05.000 I'm like, none of them. 0.99

02:07:06.000 I don't trust a single goddamn fucking thing any of these institutions have to say. 0.99

02:07:10.000 Whatever Megyn Kelly has to say, I'm listening. 1.00

02:07:12.000 Ah, Megyn. 0.98

02:07:12.000 I'm in. 0.98

02:07:13.000 Megyn! 0.83

02:07:14.000 You're right about everything, Megyn.

02:07:15.000 That's what I like.

02:07:17.000 Like ice princesses.

02:07:18.000 Yeah.

02:07:19.000 I don't know why.

02:07:20.000 Like a mean.

02:07:21.000 Like a mean, huh?

02:07:21.000 Mean and smart.

02:07:23.000 Really?

02:07:27.000 I'm like...

02:07:28.000 No, but I'm fascinated by people who must.

02:07:31.000 Yeah, some people.

02:07:32.000 They're perfect structure.

02:07:33.000 Perfect bone structure.

02:07:35.000 Steely blue eyes.

02:07:36.000 And Peck will be dressed.

02:07:37.000 Talking about guns.

02:07:39.000 And the war.

02:07:40.000 And crime.

02:07:40.000 And poverty.

02:07:41.000 And pot. 0.87

02:07:41.000 And prison. 0.87

02:07:42.000 We'll be right back. 1.00

02:07:43.000 You know the fucking bitch I really hated back in the day was Nancy Grace. 1.00

02:07:47.000 Oh, she's the worst. 1.00

02:07:48.000 She's hideous. 1.00

02:07:49.000 She's still the worst. 1.00

02:07:50.000 She's horrible. 0.99

02:07:52.000 And, like, that moral indignation that she has over everything, like, everything is always like, YOU- OH MY GOD! I CANNOT BELIEVE! You know? 0.92

02:08:00.000 I hate that- I hope that constant, I'm indignant about everything in the world, and I'm this great moral judge here to fucking tell people what's really what. 0.99

02:08:08.000 ANOTHER DEAD BABY IN FLORIDA! Oh, she's a monster. 1.00

02:08:15.000 Remember when she went after those Duke Lacrosse kids? 0.98

02:08:17.000 Yep.

02:08:18.000 The fake rape case?

02:08:19.000 Mm-hmm.

02:08:19.000 And then never apologized.

02:08:21.000 No.

02:08:21.000 Why would she?

02:08:22.000 She's perfect.

02:08:23.000 In fact, she probably still thinks those kids did it.

02:08:26.000 Imagine that. 1.00

02:08:28.000 Imagine being those kids and going, what in the fuck? 0.99

02:08:30.000 We didn't do that. 1.00

02:08:32.000 Oh, Nancy Grace, shut up. 1.00

02:08:34.000 Nancy Grace, that's not the truth. 1.00

02:08:36.000 Those boys are terrible.

02:08:41.000 She's made her entire career off of exploiting the worst human beings in their worst case scenarios and then putting it on TV and getting everybody outraged. 1.00

02:08:52.000 The outrage machine.

02:08:56.000 She was the one who was chasing that lady down that killed her kid. 0.99

02:08:59.000 Casey Anthony, remember that?

02:09:00.000 That was her big bloodhound moment. 0.82

02:09:02.000 Nancy Grace renews her criticism of Tot Mom! 1.00

02:09:06.000 Who the fuck is Tot Mom? 1.00

02:09:08.000 I'm renewing! 1.00

02:09:09.000 She's that lady that killed her kid. 1.00

02:09:12.000 Oh, okay. 0.87

02:09:14.000 Yeah.

02:09:14.000 Oh, so it's Casey Anthony.

02:09:16.000 Casey Anthony.

02:09:16.000 I've never heard her called Tot Mom before.

02:09:18.000 Yeah, that's who she calls her. 0.92

02:09:21.000 Tot Mom.

02:09:22.000 I try to avoid experiencing Nancy Grace on any level.

02:09:25.000 Did you ever see her debate with 2 Chainz?

02:09:27.000 No.

02:09:28.000 They debated about pot.

02:09:30.000 2 Chainz and Nancy Grace were debating about pot on TV. It was the most ridiculous shit ever. 1.00

02:09:34.000 2 Chainz? 1.00

02:09:35.000 I might have actually seen that now that you mention it.

02:09:38.000 Why did they let 2 Chainz do it?

02:09:40.000 Because she probably thought he was a soft target, that she could just steamroll, dude. 0.99

02:09:45.000 Yeah, if you're going to do that with her, you need to be in the room, too.

02:09:48.000 You can't be on that split screen.

02:09:49.000 They talk over you.

02:09:50.000 You barely hear them.

02:09:51.000 There's a delay.

02:09:52.000 It's confusing. 0.99

02:09:53.000 They know what the fuck they're doing. 0.94

02:09:54.000 Those split screen things are weird. 0.99

02:09:56.000 You have something in your ear, and they're talking to you, and you don't see them.

02:09:59.000 You're staring right at a camera.

02:10:00.000 Dude, yeah.

02:10:00.000 When I was on CNN, not only that, but I was in a huge, gigantic room...

02:10:07.000 And the camera was like 30 feet away.

02:10:10.000 Yeah.

02:10:10.000 So I'm looking at this camera that's like in the distance, like talking to nothing.

02:10:14.000 There's a fucking earpiece in my ear that keeps falling out. 0.99

02:10:19.000 And it's designed that way, man. 1.00

02:10:21.000 It's designed to, well, first of all, for convenience for them, for the people that are filming.

02:10:25.000 Yeah.

02:10:26.000 But also, like, the best way to get a good reaction out of the guest is put the guest under pressure.

02:10:32.000 Put him in some weird situation and have some smooth-talkin' Tucker Carlson type character.

02:10:38.000 Oh, dude.

02:10:39.000 Tucker.

02:10:39.000 Tucker Carlson.

02:10:40.000 I'm really disappointed he didn't stick with the bow tie.

02:10:42.000 I was hoping.

02:10:43.000 I am, too.

02:10:44.000 But you know what? 0.97

02:10:44.000 It seems like his ratings are better, so maybe the bow tie was fucking him up. 0.97

02:10:49.000 But I remember, like, I love how every fucking answer anyone gives to him on his show, he always does this, like... 0.97

02:10:54.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:10:55.000 Hmm.

02:10:56.000 Yeah.

02:10:57.000 Yeah.

02:10:58.000 Always has this, like, perplexed, like, what?

02:11:01.000 Yeah, he's an interesting guy.

02:11:04.000 He's sort of taking this middleman Republican approach, sort of the middle, you know, like more reasonable, more towards the middle.

02:11:13.000 Can I understand your position?

02:11:15.000 Like, let me go over your position one more time, please.

02:11:17.000 Like, he's sort of semi-mocking, but clearly on the right.

02:11:22.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:22.000 And the great thing, too, is that he's kind of brought that internet strain of conservatism over to Fox News.

02:11:31.000 Because, like, you know, Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, they're not tapped into that shit. 0.99

02:11:36.000 Right, right. 0.99

02:11:36.000 But Tucker is, and it's clear. 0.99

02:11:38.000 Right, right, right.

02:11:39.000 So he's basically appealing to probably a younger conservative demographic, I would imagine, than Hannity and O'Reilly get.

02:11:48.000 He's appealing to the people that have seen one too many Alex Jones videos.

02:11:53.000 Where they've gotten to that one point where they're like, I can't do this anymore.

02:11:56.000 I can't do this anymore.

02:11:57.000 And then they go over to Tucker.

02:11:59.000 They're like, I can't.

02:12:00.000 No more conspiracies.

02:12:01.000 What was it like having him on here, by the way?

02:12:04.000 Alex Jones.

02:12:05.000 It was a dream come true.

02:12:06.000 Like sitting face to face and actually listening to him talk.

02:12:09.000 Well, I've been friends with him for a long time.

02:12:10.000 I've known that guy since 1999, I think.

02:12:14.000 Okay.

02:12:14.000 So it was fun.

02:12:15.000 It was fun for me.

02:12:16.000 But it was also something like, for the longest time, people thought I was avoiding having him on for some reason.

02:12:21.000 And he kept saying, well, I try to get a hold of Joe Rogan every time I'm in town, but he blows me off.

02:12:25.000 He was always texting the wrong number.

02:12:27.000 He's always like, he didn't get, or he'd get a hold of me that day.

02:12:31.000 And I'm like, dude, I already have a podcast scheduled.

02:12:32.000 I can't do it today.

02:12:33.000 Well, I'll be back soon when I'm back.

02:12:35.000 We'll figure it out.

02:12:36.000 We'll figure it out.

02:12:36.000 And then he would go on a show.

02:12:37.000 Joe Rogan's been avoiding me.

02:12:39.000 I've been trying to get in there to give out this information.

02:12:42.000 It's very important.

02:12:44.000 Maybe he's scared.

02:12:45.000 Maybe he's been threatened.

02:12:46.000 The government's threatened him.

02:12:48.000 He won't open up about Bigfoot.

02:12:49.000 I believe Joe Rogan did experience Bigfoot.

02:12:52.000 He was there in the woods.

02:12:55.000 Alex doesn't really believe in Bigfoot, I guess.

02:12:57.000 Who knows?

02:12:58.000 I don't know what he believes.

02:13:00.000 I know he seems to believe in demons these days.

02:13:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:13:03.000 Well, they are demons.

02:13:05.000 Demons. 1.00

02:13:05.000 They're all demons from hell. 1.00

02:13:07.000 All of them. 1.00

02:13:08.000 They're damned. 1.00

02:13:09.000 They're damned. 0.99

02:13:09.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

02:13:10.000 Have you seen that thing where he apologizes?

02:13:11.000 Yeah, the apology compilation.

02:13:14.000 Excuse me!

02:13:16.000 It's amazing! 0.99

02:13:17.000 I will stomp your head in! 1.00

02:13:19.000 Excuse me. 0.98

02:13:20.000 This is a Christian family show.

02:13:22.000 It's like, what?

02:13:22.000 I'm a Christian, and I apologize.

02:13:25.000 He's just such a fucking awesome guy. 0.94

02:13:27.000 To me, he's awesome. 0.91

02:13:28.000 He's like a boundless source of entertainment. 0.98

02:13:31.000 And if you knew him, man, like if you, me, and him went out, we went to a bar, we had a couple of drinks, we would have a great fucking time. 0.99

02:13:37.000 I'm telling you. 0.98

02:13:38.000 He's a nice guy.

02:13:39.000 He's a real nice guy.

02:13:40.000 And he would start telling you, well, the barium, they've been putting barium in the water, and you're like, what?

02:13:44.000 You want another beer?

02:13:47.000 I'm telling you, he's a great guy.

02:13:49.000 But I understand that people are upset that he has the president's ear.

02:13:52.000 Maybe the president's like me.

02:13:54.000 Maybe the president just thinks he's awesome.

02:13:55.000 He wants to listen to crazy stories.

02:13:57.000 Trump's just like, yeah, bury him in the water. 0.86

02:13:59.000 Sounds great. 0.98

02:13:59.000 Interdimensional child molesters are coming in through the cigarette smoke. 0.98

02:14:03.000 Cigarettes with the 599 chemicals are designed to let the gates of hell come loose.

02:14:09.000 Interdimensional child molesters come in.

02:14:11.000 He just will go on and on and on and on.

02:14:14.000 I love the interdimensional child molester thing, because it's like, they have interdimensional travel capabilities, and they're like, immediate thing, like, what do we use this for?

02:14:24.000 I know!

02:14:24.000 Let's ban kids.

02:14:25.000 We'll rape kids in other dimensions. 1.00

02:14:28.000 You know, like, what? 1.00

02:14:29.000 Is that really the best application of that fucking technology? 0.99

02:14:33.000 They're always, like, the archetypes of, like, when you get into the really hardcore conspiracy theorists, the archetypes are always, like, very satanic. 0.99

02:14:40.000 The archetypes are always, like, eugenics. 0.88

02:14:43.000 Like, they want to kill off a massive amount of the population.

02:14:46.000 Engineering a master race.

02:14:48.000 Like, keeping all the medicine and the resources for the elites. 0.97

02:14:53.000 Killing off everyone else.

02:14:55.000 Preparing to get off this planet, because they know it's doomed, because Nibiru's coming. 1.00

02:14:58.000 It's all this apocalyptic shit. 0.98

02:15:01.000 It's really fascinating, because so much of it revolves around these... 0.99

02:15:06.000 And then they sell supplements and survival kits.

02:15:09.000 Well, that's what he does.

02:15:10.000 Nobody sells them better than Jim Baker.

02:15:11.000 He sells them his furniture.

02:15:12.000 Have you seen that video?

02:15:13.000 He sells them his toilets, dude!

02:15:16.000 Have you seen him sell it?

02:15:17.000 He says, after the bonus bucket is empty, you can use it as a toilet.

02:15:22.000 Oh, so when you're out there in the woods?

02:15:25.000 There's not going to be modern plumbing after the apocalypse. 0.99

02:15:30.000 People don't even know how bad shit smells because most of the time you don't really smell it. 0.99

02:15:33.000 You smell it watered down. 1.00

02:15:34.000 Plop logs. 1.00

02:15:35.000 When you take a shit in the woods, that's when you really go, oh, Jesus Christ. 0.99

02:15:40.000 And at least then you're outside with all that air and a nice stiff breeze. 1.00

02:15:44.000 But if you take a shit in a room, in a bucket, it's going to smell so horrible. 0.99

02:15:48.000 You will start gagging and throwing up. 1.00

02:15:50.000 You'll be so disgusted. 0.99

02:15:52.000 Not to mention, you'd have to actually eat their supposedly fucking five years worth of... 1.00

02:15:57.000 Disgusting macaroni and cheese or mashed potatoes to actually get the bucket empty enough to shit in it. 1.00

02:16:02.000 That's true. 0.99

02:16:03.000 So, I mean, like...

02:16:04.000 Look at that.

02:16:05.000 That's Jim Baker's bowl. 1.00

02:16:06.000 And look, are any of these fucking old fucks gonna live long enough to even... 1.00

02:16:10.000 They are. 1.00

02:16:11.000 Who cares if they survive the apocalypse? 1.00

02:16:13.000 They're fucking probably not even gonna survive this demo, for fuck's sake. 1.00

02:16:16.000 What you don't know is we are all batting down the hatches and waiting for Jesus' return. 1.00

02:16:22.000 Okay, the slop that was in the bucket and the slop they're putting in their mouths is not the same.

02:16:26.000 Oh, you think theirs is different?

02:16:27.000 It does not look the same.

02:16:29.000 Theirs is like a rice pudding, maybe?

02:16:31.000 It looks like a fine risotto.

02:16:32.000 It's a risotto, yeah.

02:16:33.000 Ugh.

02:16:34.000 Look at those poor people in the audience. 1.00

02:16:36.000 Forget about being so fucking stupid that you watch it on TV, because it's just on. 1.00

02:16:41.000 But imagine being so fucking stupid. 1.00

02:16:43.000 Like, you said, we're going to go to see the Sherman today and take the bus into the town to go and sit in the audience and listen to Pastor Jim. 1.00

02:16:51.000 I think they offer them free food.

02:16:53.000 I think they tell them like, yeah, you get a free meal if you come in here.

02:16:55.000 That's all they need?

02:16:56.000 A free meal?

02:16:57.000 They're like, ooh, sweet, free food.

02:16:59.000 Well, they're probably excited to be on television as well.

02:17:02.000 That's true.

02:17:02.000 A lot of them have books.

02:17:03.000 They have books open.

02:17:03.000 Pack that up.

02:17:04.000 Look.

02:17:06.000 But don't they have like books in their hands?

02:17:09.000 Probably those same books you see on the stage, probably just passing them out. 1.00

02:17:12.000 Get them to try to fucking buy this bonus bucket shit. 0.99

02:17:15.000 Hey look, they've got like notes. 1.00

02:17:17.000 People are taking notes.

02:17:18.000 This is important stuff.

02:17:19.000 What's important?

02:17:20.000 Well, okay, if I'll eat one plate of that risotto a day, I could be underground for 50 years.

02:17:29.000 I've got willpower.

02:17:32.000 I got a Hawaiian shirt on. 1.00

02:17:33.000 Look at these fucking people. 1.00

02:17:34.000 They're taking notes. 1.00

02:17:35.000 Like, this is, like, really important stuff that Jim Baker's talking about.

02:17:39.000 I just love that this guy keeps on keeping on.

02:17:41.000 Oh, yeah.

02:17:42.000 You know?

02:17:43.000 He's like the Energizer Bunny, dude.

02:17:44.000 Yeah, no one's talking to Jessica Hahn these days.

02:17:46.000 Okay?

02:17:47.000 Nobody even cares about her anymore.

02:17:48.000 Look at him. 1.00

02:17:49.000 He looks smooth as fuck. 0.99

02:17:50.000 He's got that sleek white hair. 0.99

02:17:52.000 He's got a cute little beard.

02:17:53.000 Look at him.

02:17:54.000 He's thin.

02:17:55.000 Looks healthy.

02:17:56.000 He's passionate.

02:17:57.000 Yeah.

02:17:57.000 He's got the drive.

02:17:58.000 He's got the energy. 1.00

02:17:59.000 He's got this hot little piece of ass behind him in the green shirt. 1.00

02:18:02.000 Yeah, look at her. 1.00

02:18:03.000 It's fun though. 0.98

02:18:03.000 Trashy. 0.98

02:18:04.000 If you watch this shit sometimes, you'll see them openly argue on the show. 1.00

02:18:08.000 But it'll be very... 1.00

02:18:13.000 Restrained.

02:18:13.000 I remember one time he was talking about marijuana or something.

02:18:18.000 And he's like, you used to smoke marijuana in your college days, didn't you?

02:18:21.000 And she's like, oh yeah. 1.00

02:18:23.000 Just picture her smoking pot and taking dick like a champ. 1.00

02:18:26.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

02:18:27.000 Right?

02:18:27.000 I mean, she does have that vibe, doesn't she?

02:18:30.000 For sure.

02:18:32.000 Strong.

02:18:32.000 For sure.

02:18:34.000 Trophy wife vibe going on. 1.00

02:18:36.000 Yeah, he's partying.

02:18:36.000 Especially for someone that guy's age.

02:18:38.000 Well, we found out from the Jessica Hawn days that that dude was a partier.

02:18:41.000 He liked to party.

02:18:42.000 That's his deal.

02:18:43.000 He likes to talk about the Lord, and he maybe even believes it. 1.00

02:18:46.000 But after that shit's done, woo! 0.99

02:18:48.000 Let's party! 1.00

02:18:49.000 He's down to fuck! 1.00

02:18:50.000 Yeah, that's what Christianity's all about, forgiveness, y'all. 1.00

02:18:52.000 Yeah, listen, man.

02:18:53.000 Just get forgiven the next day.

02:18:54.000 It's a beautiful thing.

02:18:55.000 He's got a good market.

02:18:56.000 He's got it locked in.

02:18:57.000 Who's that Joel Osteen guy?

02:18:59.000 Is that his name?

02:18:59.000 Yeah, Joel Osteen.

02:19:00.000 That guy, he does arenas, man.

02:19:03.000 Oh, huge.

02:19:03.000 That guy does the same place where we do the UFC. He was coming the next day, or the next week.

02:19:07.000 I was like, that's crazy. 1.00

02:19:09.000 He fills the fucking arena. 1.00

02:19:12.000 It's that, like, prosperity doctrine shit. 1.00

02:19:14.000 Look at all those people. 0.99

02:19:16.000 Maybe I'm in the wrong business.

02:19:18.000 Yeah, I've thought about it before.

02:19:19.000 I'm like, man...

02:19:20.000 How much do I have to know about Jesus to talk about him on stage?

02:19:22.000 Not a whole lot. 0.93

02:19:24.000 I was thinking, like, oh, I could fucking spin this yarn about, like, I used to be this YouTube atheist.

02:19:29.000 Yeah, dude, you should totally do that. 0.94

02:19:31.000 And now I'm redeemed, and I found Jesus.

02:19:34.000 Oh, yeah. 0.94

02:19:35.000 I'll do it all nice and conservative and shit, and I'll be like, yeah, I found Jesus, turned my life around, I was depressed. 0.98

02:19:41.000 Well, stop right there. 0.99

02:19:41.000 Stop right there. 0.99

02:19:42.000 No one's gonna believe you changed your fucking accent to a mocking Southern accent. 1.00

02:19:45.000 Well, you know, obviously. 1.00

02:19:46.000 You can't do that.

02:19:47.000 But let's just run through how we would have you do it.

02:19:50.000 Okay.

02:19:51.000 If we're going to reinvent you, let's just say the country moves so far into conservatism that it's dangerous being an atheist. 0.90

02:19:58.000 It's dangerous being a liberal.

02:19:59.000 And you've got a certain amount of financial requirements now.

02:20:02.000 You've got a mortgage.

02:20:03.000 Maybe you've got a car payment. 1.00

02:20:05.000 You're like, well, fuck, man. 1.00

02:20:06.000 I need to get this money to keep coming in. 1.00

02:20:07.000 I know what I'm going to do.

02:20:09.000 I'm going to reinvent myself, and it'll be a performance art piece that I do for a few years where I become a conservative.

02:20:14.000 Become a conservative Christian.

02:20:16.000 Yeah.

02:20:16.000 Give my life over to Jesus.

02:20:18.000 What would be the event that we would need to talk about?

02:20:20.000 Like, we would have to describe an event that motivated you to make the big change. 0.99

02:20:24.000 Ah, shit. 0.99

02:20:25.000 It had to be something that I could fake easily, but seems credible and believable. 1.00

02:20:29.000 Maybe a little baby heart attack.

02:20:31.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.

02:20:33.000 Yeah, you're a little overweight. 0.99

02:20:34.000 Yeah, yeah, I could just be like, I had my heart attack, and I could even fucking, maybe I could spin some kind of like near-death yarn or some shit. 0.99

02:20:42.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like you blacked out, like something happened, you had like a little minor heart attack, and your leg stopped working, you blacked out. 0.89

02:20:48.000 And I was in a tunnel, and I saw the lights, and I felt like a presence, an energy, a love that I'd never experienced before.

02:20:56.000 What was your initial reaction to this love and this experience?

02:21:03.000 Hmm.

02:21:04.000 I think...

02:21:04.000 Jesus is Lord?

02:21:06.000 Should we go the hell route?

02:21:07.000 Should we go like, I was cast out of this place and I went to hell?

02:21:10.000 Or is that too over the top?

02:21:12.000 Here's my take on things.

02:21:13.000 Yeah.

02:21:13.000 This is what I believe.

02:21:14.000 I believe you're allowed to talk about God all day long, but as soon as you talk about the devil, only a select group of people are going to hear you.

02:21:21.000 That's true.

02:21:22.000 Because more people believe in God than believe in the Bible. 1.00

02:21:24.000 Oh, fuck yeah. 0.99

02:21:25.000 Not only that, it's culturally acceptable to describe a belief in a higher power. 0.99

02:21:31.000 If you don't even say God, you get away with it for 90% of the people.

02:21:35.000 Oh, yeah, that's true.

02:21:36.000 All you have to do is say...

02:21:37.000 I'm spiritual.

02:21:38.000 I'm non-denominational, but I'm spiritual and Ultimately, I believe in a higher power. 0.95

02:21:44.000 I just think it's very possible that something I I leave the option like the seven planets fucking thing like what's that they say?

02:21:53.000 It's like a it's like a reincarnation trope where you're like you go through like seven stages of life Where like the first year I think humans are like second or third on the list But eventually like in your seventh life You become, like, a being of a...

02:22:09.000 Well, I mean, it's not necessarily your seventh, because you're, like, repeatedly attempting...

02:22:13.000 So you become, like, an enlightened being. 0.88

02:22:15.000 Yeah, like, if you're a shitty human being, you might get sent back, or you might just be a human being again, but eventually, you get reincarnated as, like, an immortal being of pure enlightenment, and just one with the cosmos and all that shit. 0.97

02:22:28.000 Like a Dalai Lama. 0.99

02:22:29.000 Yeah, you could do, like, a... 1.00

02:22:31.000 You know, you peddle that New Age shit. 1.00

02:22:33.000 Right. 1.00

02:22:34.000 Because...

02:22:34.000 They, like, set it on, like, seven different planets, too.

02:22:37.000 Like, you go from one planet to the next as you progress up the ladder of fucking enlightenment. 0.98

02:22:42.000 Who's they? 0.99

02:22:42.000 Where is this? 0.99

02:22:43.000 All of us!

02:22:43.000 But what is this?

02:22:44.000 What religion is this one?

02:22:45.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:22:46.000 It's just some crazy shit I heard one time. 0.99

02:22:48.000 But I could roll with that. 0.99

02:22:50.000 Seven planets.

02:22:51.000 Yeah, you have seven times to reinvent yourself, and, like, I'm totally... 0.97

02:22:55.000 I have my shit together now. 0.81

02:22:57.000 I'm 500 years old, but I'm totally together. 0.91

02:22:59.000 Finally, I can say I'm whole.

02:23:02.000 Nope.

02:23:03.000 Then you ascend.

02:23:04.000 Then you ascend.

02:23:04.000 You ascend to enlightenment, to the seventh planet where you live out the rest of your existence in pure love and joy.

02:23:11.000 If we just had you talking on CNN again, and they would go, well, what inspired you to make this decision after all your years of atheism YouTube videos to become a Christian?

02:23:24.000 And now that you are a Christian, are you going to take those videos down? 0.93

02:23:29.000 No, I'm going to leave them up so people can see that I really was this atheist.

02:23:34.000 I really did give credence to these atheist beliefs.

02:23:38.000 But now I've rejected that all.

02:23:41.000 And in fact, I'm going to go through all my old videos and rebut them and show where I was wrong and explain why I was wrong.

02:23:49.000 So stay tuned for that.

02:23:51.000 Oh, genius.

02:23:52.000 I love it.

02:23:52.000 And you can also say, you know what's really ironic, is I did Joe Rogan's podcast and we joked around about this happening and then it did happen.

02:24:01.000 It is so crazy. 0.96

02:24:02.000 No, you just fucked this whole plan because it's all public. 0.99

02:24:04.000 No, no, no, it's not because your belief in the Lord is so powerful that despite the fact you talked about faking it, you're going to talk about it in the exact same way because it actually did happen. 0.98

02:24:14.000 It's almost like God was like, oh, you think you're so smart, TJ? Well, I'll show you.

02:24:19.000 I'll show you and I'll have the exact same scenario play itself out and I will show myself to you and I will touch your heart.

02:24:24.000 Yeah, there you go.

02:24:25.000 And the Lord did.

02:24:25.000 He touched my heart, TJ. Just a few, a scant few years later...

02:24:30.000 He touched my heart.

02:24:30.000 How much do you think Joel Osteen clears in one day with the T-Mobile arena?

02:24:34.000 You could look up his net worth or something.

02:24:36.000 That's probably scary.

02:24:38.000 It's gotta be huge.

02:24:39.000 Supposed what it's worth.

02:24:41.000 56 million net worth.

02:24:43.000 He lives in a 10 million dollar house.

02:24:45.000 Nice! 0.94

02:24:46.000 It's a good little scam he's got going.

02:24:49.000 Hashtag ballin'.

02:24:51.000 Hashtag ballin' for Jesus.

02:24:53.000 That's incredible.

02:24:54.000 Now how does one justify that?

02:24:56.000 We had this guy on, Will McCaskill, who runs this organization called Effective Altruism.

02:25:02.000 He donates all of his income above $35,000.

02:25:06.000 So he gets to $35,000, he keeps that, everything else he donates.

02:25:10.000 That's like a real holy man.

02:25:12.000 In a lot of ways.

02:25:13.000 I mean, he's just living in a comfortable way.

02:25:14.000 Meanwhile, Joel Osteen, $56 million network, $10 million house.

02:25:18.000 He comes home in his gold underwear.

02:25:21.000 Well, look, he's kind of smart because he's built prosperity into his doctrine.

02:25:25.000 Because what he peddles is like...

02:25:28.000 If you're good and God loves you, God wants you to be successful and prosperous.

02:25:33.000 Right.

02:25:33.000 Now, there's nothing in Christian doctrine to actually back that up.

02:25:36.000 Like, Christians are persecuted and God does not give them an easy life.

02:25:40.000 They get crucified upside down and they get persecuted by authorities and all sorts of stuff.

02:25:44.000 Right.

02:26:05.000 What happens if somebody really charismatic...

02:26:10.000 Who's really smart decides to play that as a scam.

02:26:13.000 I mean, it's happened a bunch of times throughout history.

02:26:16.000 Yeah, but like someone who's like a really good actor, like a Denzel Washington.

02:26:19.000 Denzel Washington becomes a religious icon.

02:26:22.000 Dude, could you imagine if Denzel Washington, out of nowhere, had some religious epiphany or faked it?

02:26:29.000 And then decided to go on television and had a very powerful message for people.

02:26:35.000 And then started making YouTube videos.

02:26:37.000 And then started preaching in arenas.

02:26:40.000 People would...

02:26:40.000 Oh my god.

02:26:41.000 You would leave there.

02:26:42.000 Your life would be changed.

02:26:44.000 Denzel Washington.

02:26:45.000 You think of Denzel Washington from like... 0.99

02:26:48.000 Training day, like the kind of fucking power that guy can deliver, if he could deliver a sermon like that, Joel Osteen would just jump off a building. 1.00

02:26:56.000 He would watch that and go, what the fuck business am I in now? 0.99

02:26:59.000 Joel Osteen would be like his opening act, if anything, you know? 1.00

02:27:02.000 Like the shitty opening band that no one cares about.

02:27:05.000 Yeah, if you got like a real actor, like a real powerful actor to go up there and do it in a real... 0.54

02:27:11.000 I mean, there's like a guy like Leonardo DiCaprio. 0.99

02:27:15.000 Like Leonardo DiCaprio, the problem with Leo is he's too handsome and he gets too much pussy. 0.99

02:27:20.000 You're not going to take him seriously. 1.00

02:27:21.000 You're just not.

02:27:22.000 He's got too much money.

02:27:24.000 He's always balling all over the world.

02:27:26.000 He's on yachts with models.

02:27:28.000 Too much money, I'm sorry. 0.98

02:27:29.000 But if we could get past that, if somehow or another we could get past that, like if that guy settled down, he had a wife, and he had a kid, and then he had some religious epiphany, and then he really got close to the Lord, and he was really gathering up the scripture, and then he started fucking preaching. 0.94

02:27:45.000 You really want this to happen. 0.97

02:27:46.000 I do.

02:27:46.000 I can sense it in you like, oh yeah, yeah, soon.

02:27:50.000 You know the expression, politics is for people that suck at showbiz. 1.00

02:27:53.000 It's for ugly people that suck at showbiz. 1.00

02:27:57.000 And that's essentially what religion is. 1.00

02:28:00.000 I mean, it's another form of showbiz-ness.

02:28:03.000 What you're doing is, by doing it that way, the only way you do it that way is you have to put on a performance.

02:28:09.000 If you're going to stand in front of all those people and talk about what the Lord does to me, whether you have passion for it or not, that is an orchestrated performance.

02:28:18.000 It's an art form.

02:28:20.000 You're riling people's sensibilities up and stimulating their minds. 0.99

02:28:25.000 It's fucking weird. 0.99

02:28:27.000 It's a fucking weird way to worship. 0.99

02:28:29.000 You know, it's very weird. 1.00

02:28:30.000 You pay a bunch of money to get in an arena, and some con man screams and yells about the Lord and pretends that he can read people's minds and heal the sick. 1.00

02:28:38.000 Those motherfuckers that touch people. 1.00

02:28:40.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:28:43.000 Wiggle...

02:28:43.000 Oh, you're deaf?

02:28:44.000 I'll wiggle my finger in your ear, and now you can hear!

02:28:47.000 It's a miracle!

02:28:47.000 I can hear!

02:28:48.000 And then they're rushed off real quick, you know, like, bye, deaf person! 1.00

02:28:52.000 Or formerly deaf person.

02:28:54.000 What's really creepy when the...

02:28:55.000 I forget which one...

02:28:56.000 Which guy got busted with the earpiece?

02:28:59.000 Remember the preacher?

02:29:00.000 They exposed him on one of those shows? 0.96

02:29:02.000 Yeah, yeah, it was James Randi that fucking set up that operation where you could hear his wife talking to him and telling him about people and... 0.95

02:29:12.000 All these healer guys, those Benny Hinn type dudes. 0.95

02:29:15.000 And that didn't destroy his career either.

02:29:16.000 He kept going.

02:29:17.000 Why?

02:29:18.000 Those people aren't reading.

02:29:19.000 Just keep going.

02:29:20.000 Peter Popoff was the guy's name.

02:29:21.000 Yeah, Peter Popoff.

02:29:22.000 Peter Popoff.

02:29:23.000 I didn't know who that guy was.

02:29:25.000 There's so many of them, though.

02:29:27.000 I guess that's the way they make a living.

02:29:29.000 Yeah, it's a nice little racket they got going.

02:29:31.000 We were talking about doing it for you.

02:29:33.000 I think you could do it, though. 0.99

02:29:34.000 You could fucking nail it. 0.99

02:29:35.000 Yeah, you could do it. 0.99

02:29:36.000 Any of us could do it.

02:29:37.000 You could really do it, though.

02:29:38.000 I could really do it?

02:29:39.000 Yeah.

02:29:39.000 Because I got the whole atheist angle.

02:29:41.000 I can play, like, I used to be this way, but now I've seen the light.

02:29:45.000 The former amazing atheist, now an amazing Christian.

02:29:49.000 Ding!

02:29:51.000 I can see the title now.

02:29:53.000 Yeah.

02:29:54.000 I'll have to get some teeth whitener and cut my hair a little bit.

02:29:58.000 Just cut your hair short.

02:29:58.000 You'll be fine.

02:29:59.000 Cut the hair a little shorter.

02:30:00.000 Yeah.

02:30:01.000 Find yourself a nice Christian gal. 0.84

02:30:02.000 Dress up nice.

02:30:04.000 That's who it would be. 1.00

02:30:05.000 Hot Christian pussy. 1.00

02:30:07.000 That's what took you over to the top. 1.00

02:30:09.000 Oh, yeah.

02:30:09.000 Daisy Dukes.

02:30:10.000 I can even tell them that. 1.00

02:30:11.000 Like, look, I just noticed that the Christian pussy is just way higher caliber. 1.00

02:30:14.000 It's way better. 1.00

02:30:16.000 They're freaks.

02:30:17.000 They're all suppressed.

02:30:18.000 And when you finally get them alone, they think Jesus isn't looking.

02:30:21.000 Yeah.

02:30:22.000 And that's why I decided to convert.

02:30:24.000 Can you imagine if, like, it took a few years and then you admitted, look, I'm just gonna be real with y'all. 1.00

02:30:28.000 I converted because Christian pussy is the best pussy. 1.00

02:30:33.000 It's like, it's not even close. 1.00

02:30:35.000 You know it.

02:30:36.000 Come on.

02:30:36.000 Why are we lying?

02:30:37.000 You gotta believe in Jesus when you just know. 1.00

02:30:39.000 I mean, you know, you fuck an atheist pussy or a pagan pussy or whatever, and you're like, alright, I guess this is okay. 1.00

02:30:46.000 But you hit that Christian pussy and you just feel the might of God touching your cock. 1.00

02:30:50.000 It's almost like Jesus himself is giving you a hand job. 1.00

02:30:53.000 It's beautiful. 1.00

02:30:53.000 Can you imagine if there was a belief system that changed the way your pussy felt? 1.00

02:30:57.000 Like if you knew that the girl didn't believe in Jesus when you had sex, like, oh, it was all wishy-washy down there. 1.00

02:31:03.000 No structure. 0.98

02:31:06.000 Like, we were talking about this the other day about wild pigs.

02:31:09.000 That when wild pigs get loose, like you take a domestic pig and when they get loose, their body morphs, their snout grows, their hair gets thicker, their tusks grow longer. 1.00

02:31:18.000 Imagine if like when a woman really believed in Jesus, if she really believed in God, her pussy would just tighten down like a fist and you would realize it when you were fucking her. 1.00

02:31:29.000 Like, wow, the Lord is inside of her. 1.00

02:31:30.000 This is a girl I should come inside of because I should make babies with her because the Lord is in her. 0.99

02:31:35.000 She really believes in the Lord. 1.00

02:31:36.000 The Lord resides within this cunt. 1.00

02:31:38.000 Maybe you could tell by having sex with him. 1.00

02:31:41.000 Imagine that? 1.00

02:31:42.000 And the guys would cry.

02:31:43.000 I've never been with a girl who believed in the Lord. 1.00

02:31:46.000 Every girl I believed believed in the Lord, I was having sex with her, I was like sticking my dick in a bucket of Jell-O. There was nothing. 1.00

02:31:54.000 There was nothing.

02:31:55.000 There's no hope.

02:31:57.000 There's no future.

02:31:59.000 And there's this guy holding his wife's hand like a death grip.

02:32:02.000 She's got this Christian smile on her eyes. 1.00

02:32:05.000 And you know our pussy's a vice grip. 1.00

02:32:07.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:32:07.000 Just a ball-milking vice grip. 1.00

02:32:11.000 Industrial suction power.

02:32:16.000 Clamp down.

02:32:19.000 Imagine.

02:32:21.000 I think there would be a lot more Christians.

02:32:23.000 Yes.

02:32:24.000 You know?

02:32:25.000 That would be something that would definitely get people on the side of Christianity.

02:32:29.000 That's one of the weirder things about Islam. 1.00

02:32:32.000 It's like the more radical sex of it and the more... 0.96

02:32:34.000 The deeper that people get into it when they want to cover up the entire woman.

02:32:38.000 Like, cover everything!

02:32:40.000 Can't even see her.

02:32:41.000 Can't even see her when she goes out.

02:32:42.000 Cover it up! 0.98

02:32:43.000 And the idea is, like, if you don't cover up, then, you know, men are just gonna be, like, totally rape-crazy. 0.99

02:32:48.000 Like, oh my god. 0.96

02:32:50.000 They must really... 1.00

02:32:51.000 They must really like the fuck. 1.00

02:32:54.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:32:54.000 Is that what it is? 1.00

02:32:55.000 I don't know how true statistically it is, but they say that the rape is a big problem when they go to these western countries, these refugees and shit. 0.99

02:33:05.000 Oh, they're probably not used to seeing all these short shorts. 1.00

02:33:07.000 Oh my god, it's like a fucking buffet of pussy around here. 1.00

02:33:11.000 Don't you think that any country that has been around for as long, like any part of the world, really, where civilization has existed for a long, long, long time, it's very difficult to get those people off their old ways. 1.00

02:33:24.000 And when you're dealing with a place like the Middle East, like...

02:33:27.000 Iraq is the oldest... 0.99

02:33:29.000 They think that, like, Sumer, which is where Iraq is, as far as we know, that's the oldest civilization we're currently totally aware of, right?

02:33:38.000 6,000 years ago, there was people living in there, and they had mathematics, they had It was a really advanced civilization for the time.

02:33:45.000 And the people that are there today, in a lot of ways, I mean, these people have come in and people have left, but a lot of the fucking energy and the ideas of that culture are still in some way connected to this 6,000 year old culture. 0.82

02:34:00.000 We're still kind of fucked in this country because we're connected to the Puritans. 0.79

02:34:03.000 We're connected to the pilgrims that landed. 0.97

02:34:05.000 I mean, all these people that came over here seeking religious freedom and they were super religious and super puritanical in their beliefs.

02:34:12.000 Well, remember, it wasn't just the Puritans that were sent here.

02:34:14.000 It was kind of like the Puritans were sent. 0.99

02:34:17.000 Well, the Puritans came here to escape religious persecution, and then a lot of the dregs of their society were sent here like, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:34:23.000 Go over there. 0.99

02:34:24.000 Yep.

02:34:25.000 Go colonize the new world.

02:34:26.000 Form a new life for yourself there.

02:34:28.000 That's my family.

02:34:29.000 Well, you know, that's what I'm saying.

02:34:30.000 But if you really look at it, that's like the flip side. 0.99

02:34:32.000 You can kind of even look at America today and still see, like, oh, here's where the Puritan element comes in, and here's where the degenerate scumfuck element comes in, and then you've got America. 0.99

02:34:41.000 Right, right. 0.98

02:34:43.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:34:45.000 Look, anytime you start a fresh country, it's a goddamn gamble and a bunch of people are going to come over here. 0.84

02:34:50.000 And you're not going to get the best stuff. 0.94

02:34:51.000 But look at Australia.

02:34:52.000 Australia was started as a prison colony.

02:34:54.000 It's one of my favorite places to visit.

02:34:56.000 The people are fantastic.

02:34:57.000 Never been there.

02:34:58.000 Oh man, you'd love it. 0.99

02:34:59.000 Fucking Melbourne is amazing. 0.99

02:35:01.000 It's amazing. 0.99

02:35:02.000 One of the best cities I've ever been to.

02:35:04.000 The people are so cool.

02:35:06.000 It's like a cool San Francisco type vibe with a weird accent.

02:35:11.000 Not weird to them, obviously.

02:35:12.000 Yeah, obviously. 0.94

02:35:13.000 Fucking nicest people in the world. 0.95

02:35:14.000 There's so few of them. 0.98

02:35:16.000 They have it so much better over there. 0.99

02:35:17.000 Because there's as many as there is in the LA area, in their entire fucking country. 0.99

02:35:25.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:35:26.000 What?

02:35:26.000 What'd I do?

02:35:27.000 That's a lot of fucking people, man. 1.00

02:35:29.000 Oh, you just were like... 1.00

02:35:30.000 Just because I'm thinking about that. 0.99

02:35:32.000 It's like, holy shit. 0.99

02:35:33.000 How ridiculously overpopulated we are. 1.00

02:35:35.000 Oh, yeah.

02:35:35.000 The second I land in LA, like...

02:35:38.000 You go, why?

02:35:39.000 There's like a weird vibe instantly, like...

02:35:41.000 I just feel like way more guarded here and stuff, because there's like a sense of like...

02:35:48.000 Like, a faint whiff of, like, violence that's always in the air here.

02:35:52.000 Like, you can just feel, like, the tensions that exist.

02:35:54.000 Right.

02:35:55.000 And I notice people are, like, a lot of people around here are super apologetic all the time for, like, the slightest thing.

02:35:59.000 And I think it's just because they all feel it, like, there's, like, kind of a powder keg here that could just explode at any time.

02:36:06.000 Or maybe they're just polite, TJ. No, they're not.

02:36:08.000 Like, what are people who are super apologetic about?

02:36:11.000 Well, look, like, first thing that happened to me when I walked out of the airport was this guy...

02:36:16.000 He's doing a suitcase and he hits my foot with it.

02:36:19.000 And he says he's sorry.

02:36:20.000 He's like, oh, I'm so sorry.

02:36:21.000 But he keeps pulling it.

02:36:22.000 Like, you know, so he's not really changing what he's doing.

02:36:25.000 He's just giving me an apology for it so I won't get mad about it, basically.

02:36:30.000 Oh, I see.

02:36:31.000 So he didn't stop what he's doing and readjust and try to not hit your foot.

02:36:34.000 Yeah.

02:36:35.000 I mean, I just got out of the way at that point.

02:36:36.000 But, you know, it's like people around here, they almost try to, like, put a sorry over things to defuse any possible, like, well, if I say sorry, then people won't be as pissed.

02:36:47.000 Yes.

02:36:48.000 Everyone's kind of stepping on each other's toes here because it's so crowded. 0.99

02:36:50.000 There's so many fucking people. 0.98

02:36:52.000 There's so many different cultures trying to coexist, you know, in one place. 1.00

02:36:56.000 Like, even, you know, I'm from Seattle and shit. 0.86

02:36:59.000 Like, the area I live in has got, like, a lot of Asians there and stuff. 0.85

02:37:02.000 But, like, you don't really feel that sense of, like, the clash going on.

02:37:07.000 Right.

02:37:07.000 Or, like, there's tensions between these different groups of people.

02:37:10.000 Because the attitude that they have, like, in the Northwest, at least the parts of it I live in, are just kind of like... 0.98

02:37:16.000 People just kind of really don't give a shit about each other. 0.98

02:37:18.000 And there's sort of like an air of like, detached, like, yeah, you know, I'll be somewhat friendly and shit, but we're not all gonna fucking, we're not gonna exchange all these niceties and shit. 0.98

02:37:28.000 And it's a very, like, brusque attitude, and people are sort of detached.

02:37:31.000 Are you speaking for the entire area?

02:37:32.000 Yes.

02:37:33.000 Are you their spokesperson?

02:37:34.000 I am their spokesperson.

02:37:35.000 I found them in Seattle to be very friendly.

02:37:37.000 Well, I don't live exactly in Seattle.

02:37:39.000 So maybe you're in the area where people go to escape the friendliness of Seattle.

02:37:41.000 Maybe so.

02:37:43.000 Maybe I am.

02:37:44.000 Well, I mean, like I said, there's a lot of Asians there.

02:37:46.000 They tend to be brusque, I feel like.

02:37:48.000 Oh, racism.

02:37:48.000 Here it comes.

02:37:49.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:50.000 Especially against Eskimos. 1.00

02:37:51.000 I don't fucking put up with that Inuit shit. 1.00

02:37:54.000 Yeah, I like Pacific Northwest. 1.00

02:37:56.000 I think there's a unique connection with nature when you get rained on all the time, and everything's green as fuck. 0.99

02:38:02.000 Oh, yeah. 0.97

02:38:03.000 I think you guys have a better connection with nature.

02:38:05.000 I have some friends that live in Ballard, and we went to...

02:38:08.000 There's a park over there, and they have kids that are my kid's age. 0.78

02:38:13.000 We all went to the park, and we were hanging out there, and we were like, God damn, everything is so green.

02:38:18.000 I was like, you guys are not just used to this. 0.87

02:38:20.000 This is normal for you, right?

02:38:21.000 Yeah.

02:38:21.000 And it was a rare day where it was super sunny and warm, and I was like, okay, if this was like this all the time, do you know this place would be so fucking crowded?

02:38:31.000 Your relationship that you have with nature is what keeps people away, but it also enhances, in my opinion, the way the people that live there look at things.

02:38:40.000 I think they're more grounded.

02:38:42.000 Yeah.

02:38:42.000 I'm not really one who focuses a lot on the physical beauty of an area, but I love just driving through, like over a bridge or something, in the Seattle area and just...

02:38:57.000 Seeing all the fucking hills and all the trees and all the water and everything just looks really, like, serene and picturesque and beautiful, even though, you know, there's a shit ton of people there.

02:39:06.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:39:07.000 Like, there's a giant...

02:39:08.000 But, like, in L.A., it's like, there's the sun and everything, but you just... 0.99

02:39:12.000 It just looks like a fucking... 1.00

02:39:13.000 When you fly in L.A., there's just, like, a big grid of fucking lights and shit. 1.00

02:39:17.000 There's not much of a... 0.99

02:39:31.000 What is it like?

02:39:42.000 Something like that?

02:39:43.000 I think it might be a little longer, but it's not very long.

02:39:45.000 Maybe an hour and a half, two hours at the most.

02:39:46.000 Because we were up there Bigfoot squatching.

02:39:49.000 We were squatching, me and Duncan Trussell.

02:39:50.000 And we drove down from there, from Mount Rainier, to a hotel in the mainland, in the regular area.

02:39:57.000 So it was close enough that within two hours or whatever it was, we could be in the middle of this incredible rainforest and then go right back down.

02:40:04.000 And then you're looking at the ocean right there, too.

02:40:06.000 It's just so fucking vibrant. 0.89

02:40:09.000 I mean, look, it's like where I live. 0.99

02:40:12.000 I feel like I'm in the middle of the fucking woods, but I can drive five minutes and be in a downtown area. 0.98

02:40:20.000 Right. 0.99

02:40:21.000 It's just crazy.

02:40:21.000 Yeah, it is crazy.

02:40:22.000 You can't really get that in L.A. No, and you have a good amount of people up there, too.

02:40:27.000 What is Seattle's population, like five million or something?

02:40:30.000 Of the entire metropolitan area?

02:40:32.000 I think it's something like that.

02:40:32.000 I wouldn't know offhand, but...

02:40:34.000 Find out what it is, young Jamie.

02:40:35.000 I'm gonna guess it's like five million, which I think you should put a cap on.

02:40:38.000 Don't let anybody move until people die.

02:40:40.000 Dude, like, even when I moved there...

02:40:41.000 Less than five million?

02:40:43.000 How many?

02:40:45.000 The city says it's only 650,000.

02:40:47.000 Yeah, but you gotta look at the Seattle metropolitan area, though.

02:40:50.000 That's a good number, though.

02:40:51.000 650,000.

02:40:52.000 That's beautiful.

02:40:53.000 But even when I moved there, like, when I told people...

02:40:55.000 2.7 million?

02:40:56.000 2.7 million.

02:40:56.000 3.7.

02:40:57.000 3.7. 0.99

02:40:58.000 That ain't shit. 0.99

02:40:58.000 That's beautiful. 0.99

02:40:59.000 Yeah, you know, but like, even when I moved there, like, people are already kind of like, I could sense, like, people being like, eh, more people?

02:41:06.000 Eh.

02:41:07.000 Eh.

02:41:07.000 People always do that, though, man.

02:41:09.000 Yeah, they're like, no, we're good.

02:41:11.000 It's just like you said, you know, like, try to stop anyone new from coming. 1.00

02:41:15.000 Yeah, greedy fucks. 1.00

02:41:16.000 Just like, fuck you. 1.00

02:41:17.000 You got a great spot. 1.00

02:41:18.000 If you wanted to go more hippie, though, would you go Portland?

02:41:22.000 Uh, no.

02:41:23.000 No?

02:41:24.000 I don't know.

02:41:24.000 I've never really been to Portland.

02:41:25.000 Sweet spot.

02:41:26.000 I'm actually planning on going to Portland to see your concert you're doing there.

02:41:31.000 Oh, you're doing it?

02:41:32.000 Yeah, on the 20th of February or something.

02:41:34.000 Don't buy tickets.

02:41:34.000 20th of April?

02:41:35.000 You didn't buy tickets, did you?

02:41:37.000 I don't know.

02:41:38.000 I'll hook it up.

02:41:39.000 Yeah.

02:41:39.000 I got a lot of people coming.

02:41:40.000 Okay, how many people?

02:41:43.000 Six or seven?

02:41:44.000 I can make that happen.

02:41:45.000 Alright, cool.

02:41:46.000 But that spot is...

02:41:48.000 Portland, to me, is like...

02:41:50.000 There's like a handful of places that I would live outside of LA. Break it down.

02:41:56.000 Seattle, for sure.

02:41:57.000 Portland, for sure.

02:41:59.000 Denver, Austin, Texas.

02:42:01.000 And then it would get weird.

02:42:02.000 Then it would get weird after that.

02:42:03.000 Everything else would get like, man, maybe I could do it.

02:42:05.000 But outside of Denver or Boulder, when I say Denver, I really mean Colorado.

02:42:09.000 I could live in Aspen, too.

02:42:10.000 I love Colorado.

02:42:11.000 When I was trying to escape Ohio, we all sat down.

02:42:14.000 We were trying to all come to a consensus about where to move to, and a lot of those places were considered.

02:42:19.000 We were tossing around Austin, we were tossing around LA, we were tossing around Portland, and we were tossing around Seattle.

02:42:25.000 So it's kind of pretty similar to the places where we would live.

02:42:28.000 Those are the only places.

02:42:29.000 Because I was not happy living in Columbus, Ohio.

02:42:32.000 Yeah, well, there's a lot of great people in Columbus.

02:42:35.000 Sure. 1.00

02:42:36.000 But that winter can suck my dick. 1.00

02:42:38.000 Yeah, we were done with it. 1.00

02:42:40.000 Fuck you. 1.00

02:42:41.000 Giant mountains of fucking snow just piling on us, I mean... 1.00

02:42:45.000 I mean, Duncan Trussell, I'm texting him every day, fuck New York City, because another blizzard just hit, you know, and I'm like, fuck you, and fuck New York, because Duncan just moved there. 1.00

02:42:52.000 I'm like, why'd you leave me, bitch? 1.00

02:42:53.000 You left me and went to a stupid spot that snows in the middle of goddamn March. 1.00

02:42:58.000 It's deep. 1.00

02:42:58.000 We're deep into March, right? 1.00

02:43:00.000 What is it, like the 16th or something?

02:43:02.000 15th? 1.00

02:43:03.000 Fuck out of here. 1.00

02:43:04.000 Can't be snowing. 1.00

02:43:05.000 That's too late.

02:43:07.000 It's no more snow.

02:43:08.000 No, stop it.

02:43:10.000 It's not allowed to snow anymore. 1.00

02:43:11.000 Fuck this. 1.00

02:43:11.000 You get jammed in there for a couple days. 1.00

02:43:13.000 But even that, I think New York is a weird combination of weather and extreme population.

02:43:19.000 I think when you get that weather, there's good things.

02:43:23.000 What Seattle has is a good amount of weather.

02:43:25.000 It gets rain, but it only snows a couple of days a year, if that.

02:43:30.000 Like, it only gets below 32. We had actually a pretty weirdly heavy snowstorm this year.

02:43:36.000 Yeah, I saw that.

02:43:36.000 But that was very unusual for the area.

02:43:39.000 Yeah, it's rare.

02:43:40.000 But, like, during the winter, it's more like just constant, cold, dreary, rainy.

02:43:44.000 But I'm okay with that. 1.00

02:43:45.000 Like, I walk out in the sun in L.A. here, and I'm like, fuck this shit. 1.00

02:43:49.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:43:51.000 Look how white I am.

02:43:52.000 Look at this.

02:43:52.000 I mean, I don't want that.

02:43:54.000 I love the overcast skies.

02:43:56.000 I love the rain.

02:43:57.000 Do you have reasons to be depressed?

02:43:59.000 I mean, I don't need a reason to be depressed. 0.99

02:44:01.000 I'll be depressed no matter where the fuck I am. 0.99

02:44:03.000 My surroundings might as well at least reflect it. 0.99

02:44:07.000 You get used to the weather out here.

02:44:09.000 You get used to the sun.

02:44:10.000 But I'll tell you, one time I was...

02:44:11.000 I used to live in Palmdale.

02:44:13.000 Oh, did you?

02:44:13.000 So I kind of understand the climate a little bit.

02:44:15.000 That place is a bit mathy.

02:44:17.000 Yeah.

02:44:18.000 Palmdale gets a bit meth-y.

02:44:19.000 It gets a bit meth-y and in-and-out-y.

02:44:21.000 There's a lot of in-and-outs out there.

02:44:22.000 It seems like the main food source might be in-and-out.

02:44:24.000 And then quite meth-y.

02:44:26.000 Yeah.

02:44:27.000 I just remember living out there and seeing like the...

02:44:30.000 You know, it's just like, we want to live near LA, but...

02:44:34.000 Yeah.

02:44:34.000 You know, we don't really want to pay LA prices, so...

02:44:37.000 Exactly.

02:44:37.000 Palmdale.

02:44:38.000 And they just have to commute every day for an hour.

02:44:41.000 Which, if you see it in the morning...

02:44:42.000 I drove up there once real early in the morning...

02:44:45.000 I was driving up towards Bakersfield and it was like boy I want to say like before dawn so it was about 530 in the morning and the amount of people coming towards LA from way past Bakersfield was fucking stunning like stunning like I really had no idea and it's people that can't afford housing in LA and so they commute and they commute And they have to get up really early in the morning to do it. 0.85

02:45:09.000 Because at 5.30 in the fucking morning, it's bumper to bumper traffic on the 5. It's nuts, man. 0.96

02:45:16.000 Like, you ain't never seen anything like it.

02:45:18.000 You just go, oh my god, this is something that I didn't even realize was an issue.

02:45:22.000 All those people that can't afford to live in LA and they drive down. 0.98

02:45:25.000 And it's a lot of fucking people that live out there and drive down here for work. 0.99

02:45:30.000 A lot. 1.00

02:45:31.000 They should put in some high-speed rail and just fucking... 0.93

02:45:34.000 Well, they're talking about doing more affordable housing along the way for people to just establish these artificial communities, but there's a lot of resistance to that. 0.84

02:45:42.000 People that live in that area don't want those areas developed. 0.98

02:45:45.000 Who the fuck knows? 0.96

02:45:47.000 Now we're developers. 0.99

02:45:48.000 We're talking developing.

02:45:50.000 We talked about Jesus. 1.00

02:45:52.000 We talked about Pussy. 1.00

02:45:53.000 We talked about waffles. 1.00

02:45:54.000 Is there anything we should take back?

02:45:56.000 Is there anything we should take back?

02:45:58.000 What we said today?

02:45:59.000 I don't feel bad about any of it.

02:46:00.000 I feel pretty good.

02:46:01.000 I feel pretty good.

02:46:02.000 I feel pretty good about it.

02:46:03.000 I don't feel like there's anything that was said that needs to be like, oh, we better revoke that before people take it the wrong way or some shit. 0.74

02:46:10.000 People definitely are going to. 1.00

02:46:12.000 Fuck them. 1.00

02:46:12.000 There's nothing you can do about that. 1.00

02:46:14.000 Nope.

02:46:14.000 But it is what it is.

02:46:16.000 If people want to see your YouTube videos, your channel is still The Amazing Atheist.

02:46:20.000 That's right.

02:46:21.000 Or they can check out my podcast, Drunken Peasants.

02:46:23.000 And that is the podcast, no matter what Bill Maher says, your podcast is essentially the podcast that sunk Milo.

02:46:30.000 That is correct.

02:46:30.000 It wasn't mine.

02:46:31.000 I mean, well, Milo sunk Milo more than anyone else did.

02:46:34.000 But thanks, dude.

02:46:35.000 Let's do this more often.

02:46:36.000 All right.

02:46:36.000 Cool.

02:46:37.000 Thank you.

02:46:37.000 Thank you for having me.

02:46:38.000 Bye, everybody.

02:46:39.000 See ya.

The Joe Rogan Experience - March 15, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #932 - TJ Kirk

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