The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #950 - Abby Martin

00:00:00.000 I don't even think their nuclear bombs work.

00:00:02.000 It's all posturing.

00:00:04.000 Probably, right?

00:00:05.000 Yeah.

00:00:05.000 Do, do, do.

00:00:06.000 Abby Martin, we're live.

00:00:08.000 We're live?

00:00:09.000 Yeah.

00:00:09.000 Wow.

00:00:10.000 You have a Doom shirt on.

00:00:12.000 Powerful street cred with the kids there.

00:00:14.000 With the Doom shirt.

00:00:15.000 Hey, going back to the Wolfenstein Doom days. 0.99

00:00:17.000 Fuck yeah. 0.99

00:00:18.000 Old school id software. 1.00

00:00:19.000 Hell yeah, man.

00:00:20.000 I played that game.

00:00:20.000 That game was awesome.

00:00:21.000 I miss Doom.

00:00:22.000 I do too.

00:00:23.000 The new ones are pretty badass.

00:00:24.000 Did you see the movie?

00:00:24.000 I never saw it.

00:00:25.000 I did.

00:00:26.000 It was terrible.

00:00:27.000 Was it the first person shooter?

00:00:28.000 It was so bad.

00:00:29.000 No, no, no.

00:00:30.000 There was a first-person shooter movie, like something Harry or something like that.

00:00:34.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:00:35.000 What was that called?

00:00:36.000 Hardcore Harry.

00:00:37.000 That was nuts.

00:00:38.000 Henry.

00:00:38.000 Was it Henry?

00:00:39.000 Henry.

00:00:39.000 Was it good?

00:00:40.000 That was nuts.

00:00:40.000 It really just felt like you were watching a video game the whole time.

00:00:42.000 It was absolutely insane.

00:00:44.000 But was it good?

00:00:45.000 I don't know if it was...

00:00:46.000 It was very entertaining.

00:00:49.000 Well, that's good.

00:00:50.000 There it is.

00:00:51.000 Yeah, dude.

00:00:52.000 It was with The Rock.

00:00:53.000 That's right, The Rock when he had hair.

00:00:55.000 Wow.

00:00:56.000 Mmm.

00:00:57.000 That's right.

00:00:58.000 Old school.

00:00:58.000 God, that was a terrible movie.

00:01:00.000 Was it? 1.00

00:01:01.000 It was so dumb. 0.99

00:01:01.000 Why does it look like that? 0.99

00:01:02.000 I remember Doom being super red and orange and this is blue.

00:01:06.000 Come on, man.

00:01:07.000 Who the hell's Carl Urban?

00:01:07.000 I was going to say, why is he listed first?

00:01:09.000 Yeah, because nobody knew who The Rock was back then.

00:01:11.000 Who the hell is Carl Urban?

00:01:12.000 Exactly.

00:01:13.000 That's how old that movie was.

00:01:15.000 What else has Carl Urban been in?

00:01:17.000 Dude, I just had a Twitter argument with Chelsea Clinton last night. 0.99

00:01:21.000 Oh no, you did not.

00:01:22.000 It's like these people don't understand.

00:01:23.000 Never respond to someone who's like way less than you.

00:01:27.000 Basically, I called her parents war criminals and she was like, yeah, you know, I should have listened more during the 2003 Iraq war to the anti-war activists.

00:01:38.000 But she initially called people who were protesting the Afghanistan war and like the AUMF anti-American.

00:01:45.000 And so she was like, yeah, because there was a story that came out that said Chelsea Clinton, actually with like American flags and all these things, like went and disrupted an anti-war protest after 9-11.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, like a group of like patriots, including Chelsea Clinton. 0.98

00:02:01.000 Probably like 22 or something?

00:02:03.000 Back then?

00:02:04.000 Maybe younger.

00:02:06.000 So then people were calling her out and being like, you know, like mother, like daughter, because there's stories of Hillary Clinton really working hard to quell the protests, the Vietnam War protests on campus and stuff, as the president of the Young Republicans Club.

00:02:20.000 She was the president of the Young...

00:02:21.000 Really?

00:02:22.000 Yeah.

00:02:23.000 Is this pre or post Kent State?

00:02:25.000 This...

00:02:25.000 Ooh, good question.

00:02:27.000 Really good question.

00:02:28.000 I don't know.

00:02:28.000 Because that was when the whole...

00:02:31.000 Yeah, it'd be hard to defend it after that, right?

00:02:34.000 After people are shot.

00:02:35.000 But yeah, so Chelsea actually responded to me.

00:02:36.000 I was floored.

00:02:37.000 Because I was like, your dad killed 500,000 babies in Iraq with the sanctions, and your mom voted for the Iraq war.

00:02:43.000 I was like, why don't you protest them?

00:02:45.000 And she was like, you know...

00:02:47.000 What did she say?

00:02:48.000 She just said, she was like, you know, I wasn't really, she was like, I don't think that people protesting the Afghanistan war anti-American.

00:02:54.000 She was like, you know, 140 characters, limiting.

00:02:57.000 I was like, do you see that I just called your parents war criminals and you're actually responding to me?

00:03:01.000 Whatever, whatever. 1.00

00:03:04.000 WTF? Just put the blinders on. 0.99

00:03:06.000 Oh my god.

00:03:06.000 And then she was like, I was talking about the Americans who denounce, like, you know, that America's an imperialist warmonger.

00:03:12.000 I was like, it is!

00:03:13.000 The country's an imperialist warmongering country that's killed millions of people, usurp the democratic processes of dozens of countries, and the world actually thinks that America's the number one threat to global peace.

00:03:24.000 So, I actually agree with the Americans you denounced, Chelsea. 0.99

00:03:27.000 It was nuts.

00:03:28.000 So that was a highlight of the day.

00:03:31.000 Yeah, that's not a good look for her. 1.00

00:03:33.000 No.

00:03:33.000 She should probably stay off Twitter for a few years.

00:03:35.000 Yeah, it's like, dude, just step back.

00:03:37.000 I mean, you sound awful.

00:03:38.000 I know that you're trying to get in the public spotlight and get that momentum behind you.

00:03:41.000 I mean, people are already talking about her running in 2020. No, they are not together.

00:03:48.000 The two of them together.

00:03:49.000 That would be hilarious.

00:03:51.000 Can you imagine?

00:03:53.000 Whoa, that would be hilarious.

00:03:55.000 Well, it's like, the problem is, as soon as you engage in someone that's calling anyone who is absolutely responsible for death a war criminal, as soon as you engage, it's like, well, then you have to define what do you think is a war criminal?

00:04:09.000 Like, what's okay for you?

00:04:10.000 Is it okay if 10,000 babies die?

00:04:12.000 I mean, like, you could kind of call any president ever a war criminal, except for maybe Jimmy Carter.

00:04:18.000 Jimmy Carter gets slippery because he was really a peaceful man in a really weird situation.

00:04:23.000 And I think a lot of people capitalized on that weakness, including Ronald Reagan, which is the reason why the hostages in Iran weren't even released until after Reagan took office.

00:04:34.000 That's nuts.

00:04:34.000 That's a crazy story.

00:04:35.000 It's a crazy story because they literally kept those people prisoner and negotiated with their release based on Ronald Reagan winning the election to make him look better.

00:04:44.000 Unbelievable.

00:04:44.000 Those people were prisoner longer because of Reagan.

00:04:47.000 Like, they could have just gotten him out in a total nonpartisan way.

00:04:52.000 They could have said, hey, these are Americans.

00:04:53.000 Let's get them home. 1.00

00:04:55.000 Like, fuck that. 1.00

00:04:56.000 They wanted to move those chips around the board. 1.00

00:04:58.000 Let's move this.

00:04:59.000 Let's move these pieces. 0.99

00:05:00.000 It was almost as good, the Chelsea Clinton recognition, as when John McCain tweeted a segment that I did about him on Breaking the Set, which was like the most scathing segment, calling him a senile, like crazy war criminal, like sadistic fuck. 0.99

00:05:14.000 And he like tweeted it out. 0.98

00:05:15.000 And he was like, thanks, Vlad.

00:05:17.000 Vladimir.

00:05:18.000 Vladimir Putin.

00:05:22.000 Vlad continues his attacks against me and tweeted out to like his...

00:05:25.000 That's really what he said?

00:05:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:05:27.000 Now, you didn't have anybody telling you what to do on that show.

00:05:31.000 No, no.

00:05:32.000 But, God, did you hear about all the DNI report, that intelligence report, that basically claimed that I, along with another show, cost Hillary Clinton the election?

00:05:41.000 I mean, this intelligence report came out.

00:05:43.000 After months and months, everyone's waiting with bated breath, thinking, okay, we're finally going to get evidence that Russia hacked the election, right?

00:05:50.000 This claim that Russia hacked the election.

00:05:51.000 And then they come out with this report.

00:05:53.000 Half of it was just bashing RTs.

00:05:56.000 And it named my show specifically.

00:05:58.000 And it said, this show covered fracking, Occupy Wall Street, government greed, Hillary Clinton's war crimes.

00:06:07.000 And they basically just insinuated that these things are what cost Hillary Clinton the election. 0.99

00:06:12.000 A show that had gone off the air two years before.

00:06:14.000 That's hilarious.

00:06:15.000 It's nuts. 1.00

00:06:16.000 But people accuse people of ridiculous shit. 1.00

00:06:19.000 But this is the intelligence community. 1.00

00:06:21.000 How do they do that, then?

00:06:23.000 How could they do that if your show went off the air two years before?

00:06:25.000 They're saying that your previous criticism?

00:06:27.000 Yeah.

00:06:27.000 They said that that was when, like, Russia had begun to foment, like, all this dissent and trying to, you know, discredit American democracy.

00:06:37.000 Like, that's when Russia really, like, began the propaganda campaign was when my show, I was like the vector.

00:06:43.000 I was like this person that was put in there and started to unravel democracy from inside out.

00:06:47.000 You're a Russian double agent. 0.98

00:06:49.000 It's crazy.

00:06:50.000 It's an enormous amount of power.

00:06:51.000 Yeah.

00:06:52.000 That you didn't know you had?

00:06:53.000 But what's even crazier about it is it's like, yeah, of course RT is pro-Russian. 0.98

00:06:57.000 It's fucking called Russia Today. 0.94

00:06:59.000 Of course they're going to cover Putin in a positive light. 0.98

00:07:01.000 The crazy thing is that the intelligence report essentially said that covering real issues, like covering greed and fracking, are Russian propaganda talking points.

00:07:10.000 And that was really bad because you're calling reality propaganda.

00:07:14.000 Like, people are living in poverty in this country.

00:07:16.000 Half the country isn't...

00:07:16.000 We're poor, living paycheck to paycheck.

00:07:18.000 So you can't call like covering that reality propaganda, Russian propaganda. 0.99

00:07:22.000 That's just fucking reality. 0.97

00:07:23.000 What is slippery though working for something like RT if they are going to view Putin in a positive light, but they are going to criticize Clinton? 0.99

00:07:32.000 It does get a little slippery.

00:07:33.000 Are you happy you're not there anymore?

00:07:35.000 I am happy that I'm doing the reporting that I'm doing, which is more just on the ground investigation.

00:07:40.000 Since I last saw you, I've been to Palestine.

00:07:43.000 Now I finally really have a sense of these issues that I was covering from the studio and feel like I know them more after going and talking to the people in the communities and stuff like that.

00:07:52.000 So the journalism is definitely much better.

00:07:54.000 I don't have any boss.

00:07:56.000 I'm just doing my own things.

00:07:57.000 You're totally independent now?

00:07:58.000 I'm working for Telesor, so it's like a Latin American state-funded media now.

00:08:03.000 Sounds too close to Soros.

00:08:04.000 I don't like it.

00:08:06.000 He's the one that makes the weed stronger.

00:08:08.000 Did you read that?

00:08:09.000 Soros controls everything. 0.96

00:08:10.000 He controls the weed, according to Alex Jones, saying that he's making the weed stronger.

00:08:15.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:08:16.000 When does a billionaire become a globalist?

00:08:19.000 Because why is Rex Tillerson not a globalist?

00:08:22.000 He's the ExxonMobil CEO. Good question.

00:08:26.000 This whole thing about Soros is this globalist and all these people are against the globalists, yet Trump, it's totally fine to have Rex Tillerson and all these Goldman Sachs bankers in the government.

00:08:35.000 Why are they not globalists?

00:08:37.000 Because they're right wing.

00:08:39.000 The Democrats with money are globalists.

00:08:43.000 What does that mean?

00:08:44.000 Well, Trump's in power.

00:08:46.000 So that's how it works.

00:08:47.000 So if Trump wasn't in power, then it would be Rupert Murdoch.

00:08:50.000 That would be the evil one. 0.98

00:08:51.000 He'd be the evil bandit. 0.99

00:08:52.000 It's nuts. 0.99

00:08:54.000 It's nuts. 1.00

00:08:55.000 I mean, yeah, Soros is a horrible person who's done a ton of crazy shit, but like... 1.00

00:09:00.000 So is Rex Tillerson. 1.00

00:09:01.000 So are all these people. 0.99

00:09:02.000 You know, Betsy DeVos is psychotic. 1.00

00:09:05.000 These people are Christian fundamentalists who have used Trump as like the Trojan horse to get into power. 0.95

00:09:11.000 These people have been vying for power for the last 30 years, these Christian evangelicals.

00:09:15.000 Mike Pence, Betsy DeVos.

00:09:16.000 You know Betsy DeVos' brother is Eric Prince, right?

00:09:18.000 The Blackwater guy? 0.72

00:09:19.000 Really?

00:09:20.000 Yeah.

00:09:20.000 That's her brother?

00:09:21.000 That's her brother.

00:09:22.000 Oh, is that DeVos, her married name?

00:09:25.000 Yeah.

00:09:26.000 And what is her deal again? 0.66

00:09:28.000 So she, her and her, I think her husband's name's Dick. 0.99

00:09:32.000 But she married into this, like, education privatization scheme where it's like a super right-wing religious extremist education privatization thing where they're trying to, like, get vouchers for creationism and all these things, like private schooling that teaches creationism. 0.97

00:09:49.000 And so they funneled the Betsy DeVos, like, family... 1.00

00:09:53.000 I forget what the organization's called, but they've funneled millions and millions of dollars into this scam.

00:09:59.000 Meanwhile, her brother, Eric Prince, you know what he's been doing?

00:10:02.000 I mean, he's now working for like Qatar, Saudi Arabia.

00:10:04.000 I think it's the UAE, United Arab Emirates.

00:10:08.000 And I think he literally, when Arab Spring broke out, he took his whole business over there.

00:10:14.000 He's like, listen, there's a way to prevent this, boy.

00:10:19.000 So they have like a private militant group over there or rather a mercenary group over there that's kind of running their army.

00:10:27.000 It's so crazy.

00:10:28.000 It's like this family is working together to create these like obedient Christianized soldier children who are growing up in schools thinking that You know, the kingdom and the messiah are going to come. 0.90

00:10:39.000 I mean, it's nuts. 0.99

00:10:40.000 And when she was in the confirmation hearing, of course, she was the only one that actually wasn't confirmed and Mike Pence had to do the tiebreaker because everyone was like, she's the most unqualified fucking person. 0.99

00:10:49.000 She can't spell. 1.00

00:10:50.000 She's like a total moron. 1.00

00:10:52.000 Why is she even like in the running here? 1.00

00:10:54.000 And she lied multiple times in the hearing.

00:10:56.000 She was like, yeah, no, that was a clerical error when it said that I was vice president or on the board of this organization, which is this right wing extremist hate mongering organization that's Funnel millions of dollars to knock down all the gay marriage propositions in all these states and stuff like that.

00:11:12.000 So she lied and said she wasn't on the board.

00:11:13.000 But really, when you look at the paperwork, she was on the board for like 10 years or something.

00:11:17.000 I mean, how could a clerical error happen that long? 0.52

00:11:20.000 So it's sick. 0.99

00:11:21.000 These people are sick. 1.00

00:11:22.000 Mike Pence is a disgusting person. 1.00

00:11:24.000 He fought for conversion therapy for gay people. 1.00

00:11:27.000 Those people are odd. 0.86

00:11:29.000 What does this say?

00:11:30.000 Refused to agree with Democrat that schools are no place for guns, citing one school that needs one to protect against grizzly bears.

00:11:39.000 She really said this.

00:11:42.000 First of all, grizzly bears are rarely predatory towards people, and especially not in, like, schools.

00:11:50.000 They don't go to schools.

00:11:52.000 First of all, Betsy. 0.96

00:11:53.000 I don't think that's ever happened, Betsy.

00:11:56.000 And you know what you could do?

00:11:57.000 You could just shut the door and then the grizzly bear cannot get in the school and won't try.

00:12:03.000 Unbelievable.

00:12:04.000 Give the kids guns. 0.96

00:12:06.000 Who said that?

00:12:07.000 Didn't someone say like the solution to Sandy Hook is giving the children guns?

00:12:11.000 Arm the teachers.

00:12:12.000 Yeah, I don't think that would work either.

00:12:14.000 I mean, it wouldn't be the worst idea to have some military presence in a place where people really feel like they're threatened.

00:12:21.000 But the question is, like, why are they threatened? 1.00

00:12:24.000 Like, you have a fucking mentally ill person who has access to guns. 1.00

00:12:27.000 The real issue is Keeping track of mentally ill people, I would imagine. 1.00

00:12:32.000 Didn't that knock down that mentally ill thing? 0.99

00:12:35.000 Wasn't that a vetting thing that I think the NRA actually shut down?

00:12:39.000 That mentally ill people can actually still purchase firearms? 1.00

00:12:43.000 Am I wrong about that?

00:12:44.000 That's a good question.

00:12:45.000 I think in terms of what is the medication they're on.

00:12:48.000 What defines mental illness, yeah.

00:12:50.000 Well, the federal government was trying to deny licenses to people that have marijuana, medical marijuana prescriptions.

00:12:57.000 They were trying to deny them handgun licenses or firearms licenses. 1.00

00:13:02.000 Such bullshit. 0.99

00:13:02.000 Hilarious. 0.99

00:13:03.000 It's crazy because you could be on OxyContin and all sorts of disassociative drugs, SSRIs, which are almost entirely connected to school shootings and mass shootings.

00:13:13.000 If you look at mass shootings, The vast majority of them either were on psych meds or have been on psych meds or off psych meds.

00:13:21.000 And of course, then the argument, the real scientific argument is, you know, that they're not necessarily the cause, you know, that causation and correlation are not necessarily connected.

00:13:32.000 So no one knows exactly why those people do that.

00:13:36.000 But if you've ever talked to someone who's on like Zoloft or anything, one of the problems is there's a disassociation with reality and that nothing bothers you anymore.

00:13:46.000 Like I had a friend who was on it and she was telling me like, she's like, I could come home and my house could be on fire.

00:13:51.000 And I'd be like, oh, my house is on fire.

00:13:53.000 She's like the dog.

00:13:54.000 Everything's fine.

00:13:55.000 The burning.

00:13:56.000 She wanted to write a book called I Lost a Year of My Life.

00:13:59.000 Wow.

00:14:00.000 She literally... 1.00

00:14:02.000 Like, nothing mattered.

00:14:04.000 Everything was gray and black and white, and there was no color, and it was just weird.

00:14:10.000 She's like, my whole life just happened in a year, and then I got off of them, and then I was like, oh, okay, now I'm a person again. 0.93

00:14:17.000 Like, what the fuck happened to me for a year? 0.99

00:14:19.000 That stuff scares the shit out of me. 1.00

00:14:22.000 How many people they just throw on those goddamn things, and I know that some people benefit from them. 1.00

00:14:29.000 I've had friends that benefit from them. 0.99

00:14:30.000 I know there's a positive, but I gotta think there's too many people that are going right to them and not exercising, not changing their diet, not trying to meditate, not trying to seek some sort of a positive avenue for their life and their energy and see if that has any effect on their depression.

00:14:49.000 It just scares the shit out of me. 0.86

00:14:51.000 Yeah.

00:14:51.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy.

00:14:52.000 I mean, and how crazy is this Jeff Sessions, like, taking us back to Reaper Madness?

00:14:56.000 He wants to do Just Say No again.

00:14:58.000 He wants to restart Just Say No.

00:15:01.000 What the hell is going on?

00:15:03.000 It was a good program! 1.00

00:15:04.000 This guy's nuts! 1.00

00:15:05.000 He's old as fuck. 1.00

00:15:06.000 That's part of the problem. 1.00

00:15:08.000 And along with that guy, Dick.

00:15:10.000 Any guy still named Dick?

00:15:12.000 What's her name's husband?

00:15:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:15:14.000 Dick DeVos. 1.00

00:15:15.000 If you're so old that your fucking parents called you Dick... 1.00

00:15:18.000 It's over. 1.00

00:15:18.000 Yeah, the last dick that I know is Dick Tracy, which is like, you know, an old school... 1.00

00:15:22.000 Yeah, that's like, you're so old that the name Dick wasn't referred to... 0.99

00:15:28.000 It wasn't a dick back then. 0.99

00:15:30.000 Right. 1.00

00:15:30.000 That's how fucking old you are. 1.00

00:15:32.000 That's how crazy that is. 1.00

00:15:33.000 It's time to not be in charge of drug policy, maybe.

00:15:35.000 There's no way you're thinking clear.

00:15:37.000 There's no way.

00:15:37.000 What did he say?

00:15:38.000 He said no good people smoke weed.

00:15:40.000 Yeah, no good people smoke marijuana.

00:15:42.000 That's not true, Jeff.

00:15:43.000 Yeah.

00:15:44.000 That's not true.

00:15:44.000 We're good people.

00:15:45.000 I'm a nice person.

00:15:46.000 We're very good and nice people. 1.00

00:15:47.000 I pay my taxes, you fuck. 1.00

00:15:48.000 Yeah, what else did I just read that, you know, just the racist origins of making weed illegal, obviously. 1.00

00:15:53.000 I tweeted something like that a couple of days ago about the racist origins.

00:15:57.000 It was a Rolling Stone piece on the racist origins of the drug policy.

00:16:00.000 It was entirely designed during the Nixon administration.

00:16:03.000 The whole Schedule 1 designation for marijuana, cocaine, or not cocaine, actually.

00:16:09.000 Cocaine is medical use, believe it or not.

00:16:11.000 Schedule 2. But marijuana, mushrooms, all these different psychedelic drugs.

00:16:14.000 Cocaine is Schedule 2. I believe so.

00:16:16.000 I'm pretty sure.

00:16:17.000 That is...

00:16:17.000 Buzzer.

00:16:18.000 Medical use of cocaine.

00:16:20.000 I think heroin as well.

00:16:22.000 Check that, Jamie, just in case.

00:16:24.000 But there is a medical use for cocaine.

00:16:26.000 There's a medical use for heroin, opiates, things along those lines.

00:16:31.000 So I think they have different designations because of that, because they still refuse to admit there's a medical use for marijuana, despite all the millions of people using it for positive, including kids with epilepsy.

00:16:44.000 Unbelievable.

00:16:45.000 And autism.

00:16:46.000 I have a good friend who has a kid that had severe seizures, and there was nothing they could do about it until they started giving him, they would give him hash and like a piece of melon.

00:16:56.000 You know, like, and all of a sudden, gone.

00:16:59.000 Like all seizures, and he's more communicative, he's more responsive, he's got like pretty severe cognitive issues.

00:17:07.000 Autism.

00:17:09.000 And also the seizures.

00:17:11.000 It's pretty severe.

00:17:12.000 Yeah.

00:17:12.000 And the only thing that helps them is medical marijuana.

00:17:14.000 Yeah.

00:17:15.000 For me, I just get high.

00:17:17.000 I just like to get high.

00:17:17.000 Right, right.

00:17:18.000 Don't be clear, folks.

00:17:19.000 I mean, don't be confused.

00:17:20.000 I mean, I'm pro all those things.

00:17:23.000 Yeah, it was basically inebriation was okay back in the day if you were making money.

00:17:27.000 So if there was businesses behind it...

00:17:29.000 Cocaine schedule, too.

00:17:29.000 Wow, that is stunning.

00:17:30.000 That's stunning.

00:17:33.000 It's like it's used as a local anesthetic.

00:17:35.000 I didn't know that was an option at the dentist.

00:17:38.000 Dude, fentanyl. 1.00

00:17:39.000 That shit that killed Prince at Schedule 2. Oh my god. 1.00

00:17:43.000 Morphine, Schedule 2. Opium, Schedule 2. Codeine, Schedule 2. Unbelievable.

00:17:49.000 Amphetamine!

00:17:49.000 Schedule 2!

00:17:51.000 Yeah, and how in that article, it said that the South passed all of these anti-cocaine laws after the race riots, and then they were, like, scared.

00:17:59.000 And then in San Francisco, they passed an opium ordinance targeting Chinese people.

00:18:03.000 So it was, like, kind of racially bent back in the day.

00:18:05.000 But, of course, weed was never an industry behind it, so they just...

00:18:11.000 Didn't have the cash.

00:18:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Jeff Sessions is a little elf. 1.00

00:18:16.000 Why is he?

00:18:17.000 It's so bizarre.

00:18:19.000 He's just like this old man who's totally out of touch and for some reason he's just...

00:18:22.000 What are they going to do, though?

00:18:23.000 Because California just legalized weed.

00:18:25.000 I mean, how are they going to continue with DAA raids and stuff, you think? 0.99

00:18:29.000 No, but they are doing a bunch of sneaky shit. 0.99

00:18:32.000 Like Washington, D.C. has a disproportionate number of arrests on people of color for marijuana. 0.99

00:18:39.000 They're getting arrested, even though Washington, D.C. has legal recreational marijuana. 0.89

00:18:43.000 They're still arresting black people. 1.00

00:18:45.000 It's fucked up. 1.00

00:18:46.000 It's really weird. 0.99

00:18:47.000 There was a whole article on it.

00:18:49.000 They can't really...

00:18:49.000 They're arresting them, but they can't really do anything.

00:18:52.000 So they're just arresting them.

00:18:53.000 They just go through the system.

00:18:55.000 They have to get processed.

00:18:56.000 And I mean, I don't think they're getting...

00:18:58.000 They're obviously getting jailed initially, or at least brought in to be booked.

00:19:02.000 But it's just...

00:19:04.000 The idea that this is still going on, despite all the evidence, it just shows you what a corrupt system is.

00:19:10.000 Oh, totally.

00:19:11.000 And the vast majority of Americans just totally want legal recreational marijuana.

00:19:16.000 Well, that's the only thing holding that Sessions guy back, is that 57% of Americans support legalized recreational marijuana, which is just unprecedented.

00:19:24.000 It's never been that high before.

00:19:26.000 And that's people willing to answer polls.

00:19:28.000 I would venture that if you really got down and dirty with a bunch of people like you and I that aren't answering polls, I bet you're going way over 70%.

00:19:35.000 Because it just doesn't make any sense.

00:19:37.000 And when D.C. passed the law, it was overwhelming.

00:19:40.000 And that's where all the legislators are.

00:19:41.000 Like, obviously they want it too, so what the hell is holding us back here?

00:19:44.000 You guys are in D.C. You all smoke weed.

00:19:47.000 There's a massive amount of money that's still being spent by really odd groups, like prison guard lobbies.

00:19:55.000 Which is really crazy.

00:19:56.000 Police unions.

00:19:57.000 Yeah, they want more people in jail so they can make more money and get more hours.

00:20:03.000 It's so crazy.

00:20:04.000 It's sick. 1.00

00:20:04.000 It is like vampire shit. 1.00

00:20:06.000 Because you think about what you're doing. 1.00

00:20:07.000 You're literally trying to suck money out of people's lives.

00:20:11.000 I mean, they're not looking at it that way.

00:20:13.000 They're looking at it like, we're going to keep jobs for these American prison workers.

00:20:17.000 We're going to keep American jobs. 0.99

00:20:18.000 We're just trying to create jobs, Joe.

00:20:20.000 Yeah, we're creating jobs.

00:20:21.000 Don't you see the good thing behind this?

00:20:23.000 The drug war?

00:20:24.000 It's spooky.

00:20:25.000 I mean, as a comedian, I mean, I know that like the alt-right is kind of blended in with like this anti-PC culture that I think comedians relate to, but like, do you just wake up and think like, holy shit, Donald Trump is the president ever? 0.99

00:20:38.000 Oh, yeah. 0.97

00:20:39.000 I had a huge bit about it before my last special.

00:20:43.000 My last special aired in November, which was right before the election.

00:20:48.000 Yeah. 0.80

00:20:48.000 And I was like, do you know how fucking close we are? 0.80

00:20:50.000 And people were laughing. 0.96

00:20:50.000 Yeah, he's not going to win. 0.96

00:20:51.000 I'm like, no, he's fucking right there. 0.98

00:20:54.000 It could happen. 0.99

00:20:55.000 And then, boom, he became president.

00:20:57.000 And I'm just like, wow.

00:20:59.000 It's so surreal.

00:21:00.000 But it highlights to me how preposterous this system of having one person run this whole thing is.

00:21:07.000 Right.

00:21:08.000 I know there's a cabinet.

00:21:10.000 I understand the legislative process.

00:21:13.000 I understand.

00:21:14.000 There's the Senate.

00:21:15.000 There's Congress.

00:21:16.000 I get it.

00:21:16.000 But still, he's got a lot of fucking power.

00:21:19.000 What was the thing that he shut down? 0.99

00:21:21.000 He's shutting down the EPA database?

00:21:24.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:25.000 Yeah.

00:21:26.000 And they had to, like, start rogue Twitter accounts.

00:21:27.000 They're like, we need to put out the climate data in case Trump deletes it.

00:21:30.000 It's like, how does he have this much...

00:21:32.000 How does the executive branch have this much power? 1.00

00:21:34.000 I think he's just doing shit. 0.99

00:21:36.000 And then they have to stop it somehow or another. 1.00

00:21:39.000 And no one wants to stop it. 1.00

00:21:40.000 Like, he's just doing shit. 1.00

00:21:42.000 Whether or not he can or can't do shit... 1.00

00:21:45.000 I mean, he's just doing it, and then you have to figure out a way to reverse it, but it's already getting done. 0.99

00:21:49.000 Totally.

00:21:49.000 The EPA standards, that's some spooky shit, because that's literally the ground that we grow our food in, the water that we drink, the air that we breathe, is one of the most important things, but it becomes this ideological issue between right and left, where right wants work and jobs and industry,

00:22:07.000 and left wants water to be clean. 0.99

00:22:10.000 It's fucking insane that that became one of those issues. 0.97

00:22:13.000 That it's an ideological thing. 0.99

00:22:15.000 That if you're on the right, you're supposed to, if not deny climate change, you're supposed to ignore it at the very least.

00:22:22.000 And if you're on the left, you're supposed to be a tree hugger and a hippie and you're supposed to be all about clean water.

00:22:28.000 The fact that these people can make these distinctions like that and then figure out a way to make money despite that you're poisoning the Mother Earth, it's insane.

00:22:38.000 It's weird.

00:22:40.000 Yeah.

00:22:40.000 It's like, there's got to be another way to make money, guys.

00:22:42.000 Yeah.

00:22:43.000 You know, I mean, there's got to be.

00:22:44.000 This coal mining thing, you're going to reignite coal mining?

00:22:47.000 Do you like how Trump kept calling it clean coal?

00:22:49.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:22:50.000 Are we living in the 50s?

00:22:51.000 Eat it. 1.00

00:22:52.000 Eat it, bitch. 1.00

00:22:53.000 Eat it. 1.00

00:22:53.000 Eat a plate. 1.00

00:22:53.000 Like Obama drank the water in Flint, and he was like, oh, water's clean, we're all good. 1.00

00:22:57.000 We're going to wrap up here. 0.99

00:22:58.000 They'll fucking evac them immediately. 0.99

00:23:00.000 EPA has a different story. 0.98

00:23:02.000 The agency says it has no plans to shut down the website, much less bury the data it makes accessible and never did.

00:23:08.000 Great.

00:23:08.000 Okay, so they're fighting back?

00:23:10.000 It was a hoax.

00:23:11.000 Oh, it's a hoax!

00:23:12.000 No way!

00:23:12.000 So the EPA is not...

00:23:14.000 Fake news!

00:23:16.000 So who were those rogue accounts? 1.00

00:23:17.000 Goddamn fake news! 0.99

00:23:18.000 Who were those rogue accounts that were saying, oh, we're going to... 0.98

00:23:20.000 That happened, but the story came from context, or excuse me, data taken out of context from the Trump administration.

00:23:28.000 They are going to maybe take out 31% of the EPA's budget, but...

00:23:32.000 Don't worry, they're just going to...

00:23:34.000 31%!

00:23:37.000 And they're adding it to the Pentagon.

00:23:38.000 You heard about that too, right?

00:23:39.000 Including a 25% in the cut in the workforce.

00:23:42.000 So they're going to get rid of 25% of the EPA as far as the workforce and then 31% of the money.

00:23:48.000 That's hilarious.

00:23:49.000 So that means the people that remain are going to leave.

00:23:51.000 Because look, if you cut out 31% and then 25% of the workforce, that means you're cutting out more money than you are cutting out people.

00:23:59.000 So I guarantee you that's going to equate to people leaving.

00:24:04.000 Yeah, and the whole, like, climate accords or whatever that, you know, the US is not only the biggest polluter, the Pentagon pollutes more than any other entity in the world, but...

00:24:12.000 They do?

00:24:12.000 Yeah.

00:24:13.000 The Pentagon itself?

00:24:14.000 How do they do that?

00:24:14.000 Like, just the military.

00:24:16.000 Oh, right.

00:24:16.000 Yeah.

00:24:16.000 All the billions of plastic debris in the ocean, all the fucking bombs exploding, God knows what we're doing around the world.

00:24:23.000 But yeah, I mean, when the Pentagon's the biggest polluter, and then you pull out of the Paris Accords or whatever, like, Trump was just like, yeah, We're going to pull out of that climate change agreement. 0.93

00:24:32.000 It's like, well, who's going to hold it together then?

00:24:34.000 It already wasn't enough.

00:24:36.000 And then he just puts ExxonMobil in charge of the State Department.

00:24:40.000 I mean, it's so much crazier than Halliburton.

00:24:42.000 It's so much crazier than Condoleezza Rice's ties to Exxon.

00:24:45.000 The actual CEO, I just can't even wrap my mind around it.

00:24:49.000 It is amazing.

00:24:50.000 I mean, it's amazing that we didn't learn from the Dick Cheney thing.

00:24:53.000 It just got worse!

00:24:56.000 They're like, run the country like a business!

00:24:58.000 It's like, alright, I'm just going to put actual CEOs in charge of all these departments and that's going to be good? 0.99

00:25:03.000 Like, is that fucking good?

00:25:05.000 Well, it would be good if you streamlined the business and tried to make it more practical and cut out waste and bureaucracy and red tape and made it better for everybody. 0.98

00:25:16.000 But as soon as you start saying things like, we're going to shut down all those satellites that track global warming.

00:25:23.000 Like, why?

00:25:26.000 Why are you doing that? 0.99

00:25:27.000 Shouldn't we know what the fuck is happening? 0.98

00:25:29.000 Shouldn't we have, like, good estimates as when the people in Miami are going to drown? 0.99

00:25:33.000 Right.

00:25:34.000 Because they're going to drown.

00:25:35.000 They're going to drown in 40 or 50 years. 1.00

00:25:37.000 The people in Miami are fucked. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Those people are fucked! 1.00

00:25:41.000 The head of the EPA is a climate change denier. 1.00

00:25:44.000 He was a guy like embroiled in a lawsuit against the EPA. Yeah, that's not good, right?

00:25:48.000 No.

00:25:48.000 I would say that's not a good thing.

00:25:50.000 No.

00:25:50.000 That guy...

00:25:52.000 If you look at every department, Rick Perry, the guy who's, you know, we go from Dancing with the Stars to now he's in charge of the department he wanted to abolish.

00:25:59.000 Did he go on Dancing with the Stars?

00:26:00.000 Yeah.

00:26:00.000 And then he was like, he wanted to abolish the energy department.

00:26:03.000 And then of course he's appointed to run the energy department and he didn't even know what the hell it did.

00:26:08.000 The energy department like is what houses are like, I think nuclear weapons.

00:26:12.000 So it's like, okay, did you know that? 1.00

00:26:13.000 Like, how stupid are you? 1.00

00:26:15.000 How are you even running for president? 1.00

00:26:17.000 How about Ben Carson? 0.98

00:26:19.000 Didn't he make him like Department of Housing or some shit? 0.99

00:26:21.000 Surgeon General. 1.00

00:26:22.000 He's a goddamn doctor. 1.00

00:26:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:26:24.000 Instead of some surgeon, he's like, yeah.

00:26:27.000 Shouldn't you make him in charge of neurosurgery? 1.00

00:26:30.000 He's like a fucking neurosurgeon. 0.99

00:26:31.000 Shouldn't he be in charge of educating the government on the science behind neurosurgery? 1.00

00:26:41.000 Let's stay on board with all this research and science.

00:26:45.000 Try to utilize your expertise, maybe?

00:26:47.000 It's like a joke.

00:26:48.000 I mean, the whole thing is like a reality show.

00:26:50.000 Looking back on it, I do think, you know, I believed all the polls and I was, I don't know why, because they're, you know, it's coming from like this ivory tower elite who's totally out of touch with the rest of the country.

00:27:00.000 But I really did believe that Trump had no chance because I thought Hillary would Steal the vote. 0.93

00:27:04.000 I mean, if it came down to it, I'm like, they have measures in place to really lock this down. 0.99

00:27:08.000 I was like, there's no fucking way! 0.98

00:27:10.000 And when he won, I just couldn't believe it. 0.98

00:27:11.000 But looking back on it, it makes so much sense.

00:27:13.000 It's like, how could he not have won? 0.98

00:27:15.000 Hillary was the most corrupt clay candidate. 1.00

00:27:17.000 30 years of just a legacy of horrible death and destruction. 0.99

00:27:20.000 Her husband had ruined the economy.

00:27:23.000 Horrible arrogance, right?

00:27:24.000 Bill Clinton ruined the economy?

00:27:25.000 How did he ruin it? 1.00

00:27:26.000 Deregulation up the ass, dude. 0.99

00:27:28.000 It was going great, though, while he was in office. 1.00

00:27:30.000 It was going great!

00:27:30.000 Yep, that's what happens right before it crashes, right?

00:27:33.000 Yeah, the build-up.

00:27:35.000 All the banking day regulations, the Telecom Communications Act.

00:27:38.000 Pretty sweet, wasn't it?

00:27:39.000 The prison industry.

00:27:40.000 It was real good, those Clinton years.

00:27:42.000 Good times.

00:27:43.000 Good times.

00:27:43.000 Except for Vince Foster.

00:27:45.000 A couple other people I killed, allegedly. 0.99

00:27:49.000 Trump is, and all the women that I raped, how crazy was that when Trump brought up his sexual assault victims? 0.99

00:27:55.000 That was pretty intense. 1.00

00:27:56.000 That's hardcore.

00:27:57.000 I was just like, dude.

00:27:58.000 It was right before the debate.

00:27:59.000 I was like, what?

00:28:00.000 He wasn't playing games.

00:28:01.000 He was not playing games at all.

00:28:03.000 Let me ask you this, because you're a journalist.

00:28:06.000 What did you think about that WikiLeaks claim that the young man who was murdered in Washington, D.C. was the guy who gave them the info on the DNC? Seth Riker or whatever.

00:28:16.000 Yes, whatever his name was.

00:28:18.000 You know, I don't know.

00:28:19.000 If people don't know the story, he was a young guy who was working for the DNC. He was murdered at like 3 o'clock in the morning or something crazy.

00:28:26.000 They shot him in the back and they didn't take anything from him.

00:28:30.000 They didn't take his wallet, his phone, his cash.

00:28:34.000 They left everything.

00:28:35.000 So they called it a robbery, a robbery attempt, but he was essentially assassinated.

00:28:41.000 And the investigation is just non-existent. 0.99

00:28:44.000 You don't hear a goddamn word about it. 0.93

00:28:46.000 I don't know if anybody's currently working on it where we don't hear about it, but it's not something that's brought up in the news. 0.99

00:28:52.000 It's just one of those things.

00:28:54.000 He was killed, there's no leads, and that's it.

00:28:57.000 It was odd that Julian Assange mentioned that as if it was leading people to think that he was the leaker.

00:29:03.000 I don't know.

00:29:05.000 Well, that's what he said.

00:29:06.000 His words, to paraphrase, were that there are consequences to giving us information.

00:29:12.000 That's a pretty serious charge, basically saying he was killed for weakness.

00:29:16.000 If Julian Assange is a liar, if that's not true, then everything he says has to be taken. 0.95

00:29:22.000 You have to take into consideration everything he says, because he's a liar now. 0.51

00:29:26.000 Did he actually come out and say that?

00:29:29.000 Or did he kind of insinuate being like, you know, this guy was killed?

00:29:33.000 No, I believe that's what he said.

00:29:34.000 Let's find out what his exact words were.

00:29:37.000 I'm pretty sure that his words were that there are consequences for giving us information.

00:29:43.000 It's just so crazy when you look at what that allegation was.

00:29:46.000 Like, Russia hacked our election and 52% of Democratic voters actually think they hacked the vote. 0.99

00:29:51.000 When really it was just Podesta fell for a fucking phishing scam. 1.00

00:29:53.000 Because he's an old idiot. 1.00

00:29:55.000 Yeah, he's too busy looking at kiddie porn. 1.00

00:29:58.000 That's what I heard. 0.97

00:30:00.000 Allegedly.

00:30:01.000 Yeah.

00:30:02.000 Well, you know, that guy's like super problematic. 0.95

00:30:05.000 Regardless of how ridiculous the Pizzagate thing is and what's real and what's not real, what is real is that him and his brother were close friends with Dennis Hastert, who was the Speaker of the House, who was fucking kids for decades. 0.99

00:30:20.000 Fact, that he's in jail for fucking kids. 0.99

00:30:22.000 That was the Speaker of the House. 1.00

00:30:24.000 The idea that the Speaker of the House could be a serial child molester, and that's what he is.

00:30:30.000 I mean, it's literally what the judge called him when he sentenced him. 0.91

00:30:34.000 That's insane. 0.85

00:30:35.000 Look at Alan Dershowitz, Trump, and Bill Clinton were on the Lolita Express with that billionaire, that rape plane that had like a bunch of underage girls. 0.99

00:30:42.000 I mean, all of them... 0.67

00:30:43.000 Yeah, what is that deal?

00:30:44.000 What is that deal? 0.96

00:30:45.000 I mean, it was just this crazy billionaire who had some island that was known as some, like, sex ring and had a bunch of young kids. 0.83

00:30:51.000 And all these dudes were going there. 0.95

00:30:54.000 Here it goes.

00:30:55.000 Whistleblowers go through significant efforts to get us material, often very significant risks.

00:31:00.000 A 27-year-old that works for the DNC was shot in the back, murdered just two weeks ago for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington.

00:31:07.000 So, and the guy says, Anchor, that was just a robbery.

00:31:09.000 Not true.

00:31:11.000 Nothing was robbed, says, I believe, wasn't it?

00:31:13.000 And Assange says, no, there's no finding.

00:31:16.000 And then the anchor says, what are you suggesting?

00:31:18.000 What are you suggesting?

00:31:19.000 He says, I am suggesting that our sources take risks and they become concerned to see things occurring like that.

00:31:28.000 Huh.

00:31:28.000 But was he one of your sources, I mean, the anchor says.

00:31:31.000 And he says, we don't comment on who our sources are.

00:31:34.000 And the anchor says, but why make suggestions about a young guy being shot in the streets of Washington?

00:31:39.000 Assange says, because we have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States.

00:31:43.000 Our sources face serious risks.

00:31:47.000 That's why they come to us so we can protect their anonymity.

00:31:52.000 Hmm.

00:31:56.000 How hilarious is that?

00:31:57.000 Siri? 0.89

00:31:58.000 What the hell? 1.00

00:31:58.000 The government is fucking monitoring my conversation with Abby Martin. 1.00

00:32:03.000 I just want to say to the government, listen, you fucks, you could just watch the podcast like everybody else. 1.00

00:32:08.000 Oh my god. 1.00

00:32:08.000 You don't have to hack my goddamn phone. 1.00

00:32:10.000 So that is really weird. 0.99

00:32:11.000 So he's kind of saying it without saying it.

00:32:13.000 I don't know why he's doing that.

00:32:15.000 He also...

00:32:17.000 Like tweeted out some Pizzagate thing.

00:32:19.000 So I don't know what the deal is.

00:32:21.000 We all know that that's not really true. 0.99

00:32:23.000 The thing about the Pizzagate thing is there's a lot of weird shit there. 0.96

00:32:26.000 Like the little international child molesting symbol was a part of their logo. 0.97

00:32:31.000 All the weird artwork that that guy owned.

00:32:34.000 You know, I did a whole expose on Podesta, and he is a bougie chef, so it's not surprising that he would talk about pizza as being some, like, really highbrow chef, and they, like, pride themselves on how they cook all these expensive dinners and have these dinner parties, and then the spirit cooking thing is,

00:32:50.000 like, they're really into this, like, elitist, subversive art scene, and so they have, yeah, they have weird-ass art, and it's really creepy, and What about the emails where they were talking about little kids coming over and getting in the jacuzzi and hanging out with them?

00:33:03.000 The kids were going to come over and entertain them?

00:33:05.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:33:05.000 I need a little bit more to really go down that rabbit hole.

00:33:08.000 Yes, there's pedophilia.

00:33:09.000 Yes, it's in high places.

00:33:10.000 The Lolita Express thing is a really glaring example.

00:33:13.000 But in terms of John Podesta being involved in a pedophile sex trafficking ring, I feel like we need a little bit more to go on.

00:33:20.000 I agree with you.

00:33:20.000 Because I feel like what's out there right now seems pretty self-explanatory.

00:33:24.000 It's like the art and the cooking stuff.

00:33:26.000 I agree with you, but little kids coming over the house and getting in the jacuzzi like that little kids are coming over for entertainment Did you ever read that? 0.50

00:33:34.000 I read the email it did and it seemed like they're just really out of touch with how to talk about like their child fucking They need to mask it better.

00:33:43.000 Look, I have kids. 0.95

00:33:45.000 I have kids that age.

00:33:46.000 And if I'm sending an email to someone else, you know, oh, yeah, you know, blah, blah, blah, friends are coming over.

00:33:54.000 Yeah, I think we're going to have, like, pizza or something.

00:33:56.000 We're going to have a pizza party for the little ones.

00:33:58.000 You say it like that.

00:33:59.000 You don't say they're going to come over and entertain us.

00:34:02.000 Like, what were the exact...

00:34:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:05.000 All the creepiness. 1.00

00:34:06.000 Well, how Alex Jones interpreted that was saying, they're raping and killing kids! 0.99

00:34:10.000 Is that what he said? 1.00

00:34:11.000 Did he get crazy?

00:34:12.000 Oh, he got super crazy about that email. 0.98

00:34:15.000 About that email specifically, being like, this is obviously like, they're raping these kids in the jacuzzi. 0.94

00:34:20.000 Well, it is weird.

00:34:21.000 I don't know what he's saying, but my favorite thing about Alex is when he freaks out, and then he's apologizing.

00:34:26.000 He's like, I'm sorry.

00:34:26.000 I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen.

00:34:27.000 I never swear like that. 1.00

00:34:28.000 But these fucking pussies... 1.00

00:34:30.000 These fucking... 1.00

00:34:32.000 Goddamn shit, I'm sorry! 1.00

00:34:33.000 These goddamn child-fucking pizza lovers. 1.00

00:34:35.000 Okay, we plan to heat the pool so a swim is a possibility. 1.00

00:34:39.000 Bonnie will Uber service to transport Ruby Emerson and Maeve Lazon, whatever, 11-9 and almost 7, so you'll have some further entertainment and they will be in that pool for sure. 0.92

00:34:51.000 What does that mean?

00:34:53.000 Like, why is he bringing kids over his house?

00:34:55.000 I don't know, man. 1.00

00:34:56.000 Podesta's a scumbag. 1.00

00:34:58.000 But that's odd. 1.00

00:34:59.000 And did you ever see that thing where Breitbart had said that many years ago?

00:35:04.000 He made a tweet.

00:35:05.000 That was weird.

00:35:07.000 Super weird.

00:35:07.000 Right.

00:35:08.000 Like, how does Podesta get away with being a...

00:35:12.000 What was the exact word?

00:35:13.000 I forget.

00:35:14.000 Jamie will find it.

00:35:15.000 He did say something about...

00:35:16.000 Super crazy. 1.00

00:35:17.000 Yeah, about essentially covering up for kid fuckers. 0.99

00:35:21.000 Well, how weird do you think it is that Trump seems to be the first president or anyone really in a political office? 0.99

00:35:27.000 Here it is. 0.79

00:35:28.000 How pro guru John Podesta is in household name as world-class underage sex slave op cover-upper defending unspeakable dregs escapes me.

00:35:38.000 That's a really heavy tweet.

00:35:39.000 And this was in February of 2011 before Hastert was arrested.

00:35:44.000 So this very well could have been connected.

00:35:47.000 By the way, Hastert only did 15 months for being a serial child molester.

00:35:53.000 What?

00:35:55.000 Bannon also worked for a bunch of child molesters at IGE, this internet gaming entertainment company that just like mined virtual resources in World of Warcraft games and would sell them.

00:36:05.000 And he was like a money bundler for Goldman Sachs because he's a Goldman Sachs shill. 0.73

00:36:09.000 And he was working for like all the people on the board were just pedophiles. 0.94

00:36:13.000 Really? 0.93

00:36:13.000 Yeah. 0.93

00:36:15.000 Yeah, I think Prince Brock was one of the guys and then one of the guys is still on the run and has been for the last 10 years.

00:36:22.000 So where are all the Pizzagate people?

00:36:24.000 They don't know about it.

00:36:25.000 Now they do.

00:36:25.000 I mean, it's crazy.

00:36:28.000 It's a bowling alley now.

00:36:29.000 It's going to be Bowling Gate.

00:36:32.000 But what do you think about, you know, Trump being really one of the first people who's won a political office that has catered to, like, the conspiracy crowds and conspiracy culture and the Alex Jones crowd and all the conspiracy culture...

00:36:43.000 Well, I liken it to how Ronald Reagan figured out that if you court the Christian right, they will vote for you.

00:36:48.000 I mean, there's a whole market in that.

00:36:50.000 Look, the conspiracy...

00:36:52.000 Look, Alex Jones has a gigantic audience.

00:36:56.000 Tens of millions of people.

00:36:57.000 People discard him as like some crazy outlier.

00:36:59.000 He has an audience of tens of millions of people.

00:37:01.000 It's huge.

00:37:02.000 Yeah.

00:37:02.000 He gets as many downloads as the biggest podcast in the world probably.

00:37:06.000 Totally.

00:37:06.000 And he's on, I don't know how many different radio stations, but I want to say it's more than a hundred.

00:37:12.000 He's got a crazy reach.

00:37:14.000 So it was a wise move by Trump. 0.94

00:37:17.000 And as long as he gets on Alex's show and doesn't say anything too fucking crazy, like, those people are like, I can't believe the president is with Alex!

00:37:24.000 You get those people, and then you get the people that don't like Alex. 0.77

00:37:28.000 You get those people, too.

00:37:29.000 You get the hardcore Republican base who just want to, quote-unquote, make America great again and wear red hats.

00:37:35.000 You get those people, too.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, that's extremely smart.

00:37:38.000 And that's how he won.

00:37:39.000 I mean, he's a reality star who won the biggest reality competition in the world.

00:37:43.000 You're right.

00:37:43.000 That's exactly how to put it.

00:37:44.000 And it was the first time that an actual popular person entered this popularity contest.

00:37:50.000 That's really what happened.

00:37:51.000 Totally.

00:37:52.000 Totally.

00:37:52.000 That's exactly what happened.

00:37:53.000 And you're right.

00:37:54.000 He knew how to play the audience, Bannon knew exactly how to work the media, too.

00:37:58.000 It's fascinating to cultivate that Alex Jones crowd because people are analyzing the results of the election and wondering, you know, how did he win?

00:38:06.000 How did he win?

00:38:06.000 To me, I feel like that's a huge component that no one really puts any credit to is that Alex Jones...

00:38:13.000 This voting bloc that never was really active before, other than Ron Paul.

00:38:18.000 Well, also this alt-right thing that we were talking about.

00:38:21.000 There's groups of people that were never interested in politics that are now treating it the same way they treat sports.

00:38:30.000 These guys are sports fans.

00:38:32.000 I mean, that's really what it's like.

00:38:34.000 It's like, this is my team.

00:38:36.000 I'm on Team Trump.

00:38:37.000 It's a brand.

00:38:40.000 It's a corporation, man.

00:38:41.000 And they're showing up at these Berkeley rallies and they're fighting with people now.

00:38:46.000 Now you've got people responding.

00:38:49.000 This is one of the real problems with the left.

00:38:52.000 There's a real problem with these really hardcore lefties that are outraged and want to do something and they want to be positive.

00:38:58.000 So they want to shut down all these people like Milo that they think are Nazis or Ann Coulter and all these people.

00:39:04.000 But by doing that and by having these gigantic protests and literally shutting down people communicating and talking, you invite people to resist that. 0.98

00:39:14.000 And then you start these anti-fub people who hit people in the head with fucking bike locks. 0.97

00:39:20.000 You see, they found out it was a professor. 0.99

00:39:21.000 That was hitting people in the head with bike locks.

00:39:25.000 This is going to have people show up and want to hit you with something.

00:39:29.000 And that's what you see now.

00:39:30.000 And I've seen plenty of footage of Trump protesters and supporters beating other people up.

00:39:35.000 It's coming from both sides for sure.

00:39:36.000 It's coming from both sides now.

00:39:38.000 But I almost feel like this is a manufactured thing.

00:39:40.000 Because I think that there's...

00:39:42.000 Being from the Oakland area, and Antifa's been showing up at every protest for as long as I can remember.

00:39:48.000 And the cops kind of are hands-off.

00:39:50.000 And so I feel like to provoke the Antifa block where you know that they're like really strategically oriented and keep going to Berkeley and keep going to Berkeley and then making it like this big free speech blowout where it's like why do you keep going and like creating the situation?

00:40:05.000 You kind of know what's gonna happen.

00:40:06.000 It seems like a manufactured thing and then at the end of the day it makes the left easier to demonize and basically protests Easier to demonize, where now you have 200 people facing felony riot charges at the inauguration protests, and a couple of them are just journalists who are filming, 0.98

00:40:22.000 and all the Trump people are like, whatever, they're fucking rioting, and they're fascists, and they're Antifa. 0.75

00:40:27.000 It's like, well, because this happened in Berkeley, now, like, all protesters are, you know, they're scapegoated to these people. 0.99

00:40:34.000 Well, certainly, it's easy to demonize.

00:40:36.000 It's easy to box people in, but I think what's going on in Berkeley is it's the most outrageously liberal place in the country.

00:40:43.000 I mean, Berkeley is and always has been.

00:40:45.000 If you go there, it's so lefty that it's a great target.

00:40:50.000 It's a great place to get things popping.

00:40:52.000 So if I was Milo or if I was Ann Coulter, and what does Ann Coulter do?

00:40:56.000 I mean, she wants to sell books. 1.00

00:40:57.000 I mean, she's a troll. 1.00

00:40:59.000 She's a troll. 1.00

00:40:59.000 Yeah, she's totally a troll. 1.00

00:41:01.000 Didn't she used to be liberal? 1.00

00:41:02.000 Probably.

00:41:03.000 Yeah, she's just one of those... 1.00

00:41:04.000 I mean, she's just weird.

00:41:05.000 She's a performance artist.

00:41:06.000 We don't talk about any performance artist.

00:41:07.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:41:08.000 Exactly.

00:41:09.000 She's absolutely a performance artist.

00:41:10.000 And not a very good one. 0.99

00:41:12.000 Because if she was, that In Trump We Trust book, like the whole cover, like what in the fuck is that? 0.97

00:41:18.000 I mean, it was just bizarre. 0.99

00:41:20.000 Yeah.

00:41:20.000 It's just bizarre that she wrote that book.

00:41:23.000 It was almost like, okay, this is cheap even for her.

00:41:26.000 This is just like a cheap ploy during this whole Trump movement.

00:41:29.000 She sees the whole momentum of the country, and so she's going to write a book and put Trump in the title of it.

00:41:35.000 It's like... 1.00

00:41:35.000 So stupid. 1.00

00:41:36.000 But it's weird. 1.00

00:41:37.000 It's just weird that it's so easy.

00:41:39.000 But it makes sense.

00:41:40.000 Just like we were talking about how Reagan sort of mobilized the right-wing conservative people that were Christians that really weren't about politics before that.

00:41:49.000 And he kind of brought them in.

00:41:51.000 People really, like, they look at it and go, hey, look, this is an angle.

00:41:54.000 You know, there's an angle we can take that no one's been taking.

00:41:57.000 And this...

00:41:58.000 You're right.

00:41:58.000 It's kind of like a bait-and-switch, this whole Milo-Berkeley thing, because they know exactly what's going to happen when they go there, and then, of course, that's exactly what happens, and then they can use it to be like, free speech, free speech.

00:42:08.000 I mean, it's just...

00:42:09.000 Oh, he knows what he's doing.

00:42:10.000 Milo's a clever guy.

00:42:12.000 He's very clever.

00:42:13.000 I mean, he knows exactly what he's doing.

00:42:15.000 And Milo, at one point in time, by the way, was a guy who was very anti-hate speech.

00:42:23.000 You know, and it was very anti shutting down people who are writing things to hurt people people like pulled quotes of his from the past Which is interesting because I mean, I'm sure people's philosophies changed.

00:42:35.000 I'm sure mine have and yours have but this is like one more piece of evidence that what you're seeing with a lot of people that are in the public eye that are involved in this whole political arena is You're seeing their working angles.

00:42:49.000 They're like, what's the angle like?

00:42:51.000 Okay, let's go that way And you can justify it.

00:42:53.000 Look, I could justify a lot of different angles.

00:42:55.000 If I wanted to do that, if I wanted to be an anti-Trump protester, an anti-free speech protester, if I wanted to be a person who thinks that free speech should be limited because hate speech is not protected by the Constitution, like Howard Dean just said. 1.00

00:43:08.000 That fucking asshole. 1.00

00:43:09.000 He said hate speech is not protected by the Constitution and the First Amendment. 1.00

00:43:13.000 Yes, it is, Howard. 1.00

00:43:14.000 You fucking idiot. 1.00

00:43:15.000 You're a goddamn representative of the people. 1.00

00:43:18.000 That's why Nazi parties exist, actually, and they can have rallies. 1.00

00:43:22.000 Yeah.

00:43:22.000 That happens in this country.

00:43:24.000 I forget who he was saying it about, too, but it was ridiculous. 0.97

00:43:27.000 Bizarre. 0.87

00:43:28.000 The way he said it, it wasn't even, like, justified. 0.99

00:43:31.000 It wasn't like someone was saying, like, hey, we need to gather up these gay people and hang them from stop signs. 0.97

00:43:37.000 That's not what people were saying. 0.97

00:43:38.000 It wasn't anything that extreme where he, oh, I think it was Ann Coulter.

00:43:44.000 Sure.

00:43:45.000 Pull that up.

00:43:46.000 See if you can find it.

00:43:47.000 I'm pretty sure Howard Dean was talking about Ann Coulter.

00:43:51.000 Unbelievable.

00:43:51.000 And he was saying that hate speech is not protected by the First Amendment.

00:43:54.000 So what is he advocating?

00:43:55.000 To round up Ann Coulter and arrest her?

00:43:59.000 He's just saying that you can stop her talking.

00:44:02.000 You know what it was? 1.00

00:44:03.000 These people are nuts. 1.00

00:44:04.000 Poorly thought out statement that got trampled. 1.00

00:44:08.000 Right.

00:44:08.000 You know, and just thrown out, and everybody is sort of repeating it over and over and over again, and I just don't think he thought about it when he was saying it.

00:44:15.000 He doesn't think about it a lot, yeah.

00:44:17.000 Here it is.

00:44:17.000 Was it about Ann Coulter?

00:44:18.000 Yes, it was about Ann Coulter's upcoming speech in Vermont.

00:44:22.000 The Vermont DNC chair, Howard Dean, elaborated on his argument that Ann Coulter's upcoming speech at Berkeley does not have to occur because hate speech, in quotes, is not protected by the First Amendment. 1.00

00:44:34.000 Fuck you, man. 1.00

00:44:36.000 Of course, look, just have someone debate her. 1.00

00:44:38.000 It's not that goddamn hard. 0.87

00:44:40.000 Have someone say what we're saying. 0.87

00:44:42.000 But what about the safe space hysteria where people are like, we need safe spaces.

00:44:46.000 But then it's the same people who are like, why are you protesting us?

00:44:50.000 Let us debate. 0.99

00:44:51.000 Well, then fucking what is it? 0.99

00:44:52.000 Do you want safe spaces or not? 0.99

00:44:54.000 Because if you want to have debates or you want to have speeches, you can't stop people in Berkeley from coming and protesting you or heckling you.

00:45:02.000 It's such a fundamental idea that we all know that in order to, if you're going to have a discussion with someone, you have to let that person establish, this is what debates are about, right?

00:45:15.000 Let that person establish their position and then give your counter to that position.

00:45:19.000 This is like so firmly established in the way we communicate and the way we go over ideas.

00:45:25.000 That is essentially the marketplace of ideas.

00:45:27.000 You have your idea.

00:45:29.000 Someone has an opposing idea.

00:45:30.000 If you don't let that person establish their idea and you Shut it down!

00:45:35.000 Shut it down! 1.00

00:45:36.000 And you're throwing rocks and burning cop cars and throwing fucking bricks through Starbucks windows. 1.00

00:45:41.000 You are feeding the whole resistance to your ideas flames. 0.99

00:45:47.000 You're feeding the people that are saying that they're right and you're wrong.

00:45:53.000 Because you are against free speech.

00:45:55.000 You're definitely feeding that.

00:45:56.000 And people sympathize with Richard Spencer after he got punched.

00:46:00.000 And that's a problem. 1.00

00:46:02.000 Yeah, it's a fucking problem! 1.00

00:46:03.000 Because all you have to do is let those people hang themselves. 1.00

00:46:06.000 Give them rope. 1.00

00:46:07.000 Let them talk.

00:46:08.000 But you have to have someone qualified.

00:46:10.000 You have to have someone who can have that speech with them. 0.99

00:46:12.000 And you can't have the fucking audience shout them down either. 0.98

00:46:15.000 It's a disservice to both ideas. 0.99

00:46:17.000 Both sides.

00:46:17.000 Yeah, but I've heard people say, like, is Nazism really an idea worthwhile of putting it in the marketplace of ideas?

00:46:23.000 Like, you're advocating genocide.

00:46:24.000 Okay, Richard Spencer.

00:46:26.000 Right.

00:46:26.000 Yeah, okay.

00:46:27.000 But if you are going to have someone debate them, you have someone debate them in a venue where, let everyone watch it online.

00:46:35.000 It's like, how do you debate someone that wants to exterminate you? 0.94

00:46:37.000 Like, if you're like a black person, you're like, I'm going to debate this guy whose main premise of the argument is you shouldn't exist. 1.00

00:46:42.000 It's kind of...

00:46:43.000 I've heard people...

00:46:45.000 It's a confusing topic.

00:46:47.000 But if you don't debate them, if you shut down their speech, If you stop, then they can frame what they were going to say in a very different way.

00:46:57.000 They can gather sympathy with people who are more pro-speech, more pro-free speech, than they are anti what you're saying.

00:47:05.000 Yeah, I think that they still are, like we were saying before, Nazis still have rallies.

00:47:09.000 No one's shutting down these from a government level, so I think the whole censorship thing is not relevant to this situation, because that really does mean the black end of the state coming down and blocking you, and instead we have what we see Antifa Blocking, like, physically these venues,

00:47:26.000 but it's not like these people are blocked from having venues or access or speech platforms. 0.96

00:47:30.000 I mean, they're fucking everywhere. 0.97

00:47:31.000 It's like, I feel like all over the news, it's Richard Spencer, the dapper Nazi, like, giving all these interviews. 0.99

00:47:38.000 Aren't these speeches in, like, this one place, aren't they very retro?

00:47:42.000 Like, why even do it that way?

00:47:43.000 Why have an audience?

00:47:45.000 Why have an angry mob yelling outside or even inside?

00:47:48.000 To create and cultivate.

00:47:53.000 It's a very poor way to go over ideas though.

00:47:57.000 I think the better way to go over ideas is you have a moderator and two people in a room together.

00:48:02.000 You know?

00:48:03.000 That simple.

00:48:05.000 One person has an allotted time where they can express themselves, then the other person has an allotted time where they can counter, and you're not allowed to chime in, you're not allowed to interrupt, you're not allowed to in any way disrupt this person's flow of ideas, then there should be a time set aside where you could go back and forth with each other.

00:48:25.000 And unless you do it that way, you're going to involve the cult of personality.

00:48:30.000 You're going to involve the cheers from the crowds.

00:48:32.000 You're going to involve all these different people that can organize to sway things one way or another.

00:48:37.000 All this, shut it down, shut it down, shut it down. 0.96

00:48:40.000 And it gets as ridiculous as like Jordan Peterson's speeches. 0.92

00:48:43.000 I'm sure you've seen that professor of University of Toronto that doesn't want to use all these made-up gender pronouns. 0.53

00:48:48.000 The 78 now accepted gender pronouns.

00:48:51.000 Canada has really weird laws.

00:48:53.000 You know, and Canada has...

00:48:55.000 They don't have free speech the way we have free speech.

00:48:57.000 And they have a human rights...

00:48:59.000 Council, and they've decided that these 78 or whatever the fuck they are, however many they decide on, gender pronouns, that if you don't use them, if someone says, you know, I want you to call me Foxkin 26, but for real, like, if you don't do that,

00:49:15.000 you're imposing on their human rights.

00:49:18.000 Other people have debated him and say that though that's not how it should be interpreted but he's like a very staunch critic of Marxism and he understands the the real ideology of Marxism and how it went horribly wrong all throughout the world throughout history and That he thinks that what you're trying to do when you when you're invoking When you're asking the government to tell people what they must or must not say,

00:49:44.000 that you are going down this road, this very dangerous road of cultural Marxism.

00:49:49.000 But what is cultural Marxism?

00:49:50.000 Because I've heard this said a lot, and I actually have no idea what the hell it means, because Marxism is simply a critique on capitalism.

00:49:57.000 So I don't understand this whole cultural Marxism...

00:49:59.000 Well, let's get the definition.

00:50:00.000 And how it has anything to do with gender pronouns, but let's check it out.

00:50:03.000 Well, you'd have to talk to Peterson about how it...

00:50:05.000 But he makes a very compelling argument about how the two of them are connected.

00:50:09.000 Essentially, what people are trying to do is control your behavior, and they're trying to, in some way, force you to behave the way they would like you to behave.

00:50:19.000 Even if it's a preposterous thing, like making up words, and you have to call them this...

00:50:29.000 Which is, you know, plurals, which is fine.

00:50:31.000 I mean, like, that's a real word, you know, if you want to use it in an incorrect way.

00:50:35.000 And it does get used, like, you know, it does use, like, if anybody wants to use the bathroom, they can go ahead.

00:50:42.000 You can be using that in a singular term, you know, and it's non-gender specific.

00:50:46.000 Right, right.

00:50:47.000 So there is, like, open interpretation in the standard use of it in the English language.

00:50:52.000 So I pulled up the term cultural Marxism.

00:50:56.000 I was looking for it.

00:50:57.000 I can't really find a great definition for it.

00:50:59.000 There's a couple, like, the Google search says there's a couple things calling it a conspiracy theory.

00:51:05.000 But the Urban Dictionary definition, this isn't like the obvious.

00:51:09.000 Social political movement that promotes unreason and irrationality through the guise of various causes often promoted by so-called social justice.

00:51:17.000 This is a perfect example of it.

00:51:19.000 These causes and their proponents are often contradictory and are almost always never rooted in fact.

00:51:26.000 Indeed, true argument or discussion with proponents of these causes is almost impossible, as most attempts at discourse descend quickly into shouting, name-calling, and chanting of slogans.

00:51:38.000 Well, that's a perfect...

00:51:39.000 Otherwise known as the regressive left, a play on the contradictory nature.

00:51:43.000 I think that this seems to be like a hub of the alt-right, where this is founded on this reactionary movement on PC culture, on things like the gender pronouns thing.

00:51:52.000 And it seems like there's no real political ideology behind what is the alt-right other than just a reaction to this, like, I don't want to conform to this progressive, whatever, cultural Marxism.

00:52:04.000 But to me, I feel like...

00:52:06.000 I don't know.

00:52:07.000 It doesn't bother me as much. 1.00

00:52:08.000 What bothers me right now is just the empire fucking killing people in my name and Trump being a disgusting war criminal who's flip-flopped on all the shit that he said that he's going to do. 1.00

00:52:17.000 That's a different argument, but you're absolutely right. 1.00

00:52:19.000 That's more compelling.

00:52:19.000 But what I'm saying is these people are that upset about leftists.

00:52:23.000 They think leftists are the problem and that cultural Marxism is ruining society.

00:52:26.000 It's like, what is this government doing?

00:52:28.000 The empire never stopped when Trump won.

00:52:30.000 Jordan Peterson, he's a progressive.

00:52:32.000 He's a liberal.

00:52:34.000 I mean, the guy who's arguing against cultural Marxism is actually a progressive.

00:52:40.000 He's actually a liberal.

00:52:41.000 I mean, he's not a Republican.

00:52:43.000 He's definitely not alt-right.

00:52:44.000 He's Canadian, so they obviously have different parties up there, but he's not an alt-right guy.

00:52:49.000 He's a professor.

00:52:50.000 I mean, he's not, he just sees that there's a bunch of people on campus that are trying to control the way other people communicate.

00:52:59.000 It's just such an isolated, yeah, I totally hear that.

00:53:02.000 And I see where people are really upset about that.

00:53:04.000 And it just, you know, I see SJWs and leftists are ruining everything.

00:53:08.000 And to me, it just seems like such an isolated, like, totally inconsequential thing to what's going on in the rest of the world.

00:53:14.000 And especially what Trump is ramming down everyone's throats.

00:53:17.000 It's like, is this really the main issue here?

00:53:19.000 No, it's not.

00:53:20.000 But I agree with you to a certain extent.

00:53:22.000 But to not address that or to write it off, it empowers the people that are fighting against it, because you're ignoring it.

00:53:30.000 To them, it's a giant issue.

00:53:32.000 The issue of free speech, the issue of not having people enforce whatever ideology that they have on you that you have to Behave the way they want you to and communicate they want you to, or you're a bigot, or you're a Nazi. 0.99

00:53:47.000 Like, punch a Nazi. 0.52

00:53:49.000 Meanwhile, there's actual Christian evangelicals employing top-down policy that's actually telling people, here's how education's going to be run, here's how you're going to be indoctrinated. 0.96

00:53:57.000 Like, that's what I feel like we're really missing the boat here.

00:54:00.000 All these, like, new atheists who agree with what you're saying, like, don't want to be policed and are more, like, in line with Trump.

00:54:07.000 How come they're not speaking out against, like, the Christian evangelical hold over this administration?

00:54:12.000 Well, which ones are you talking about?

00:54:14.000 Mike Pence?

00:54:15.000 No, no, no.

00:54:16.000 I mean, who's not speaking out against it?

00:54:17.000 No, you know what?

00:54:17.000 I don't know.

00:54:18.000 I just kind of said that in the ether.

00:54:20.000 But I guess I just haven't seen enough critique of Trump for bringing in this religious fanaticism.

00:54:26.000 Oh, I've seen nothing but.

00:54:27.000 Really?

00:54:28.000 Oh, that's great.

00:54:29.000 That's really good to hear.

00:54:30.000 Maybe I'm in different circles.

00:54:31.000 Oh, that's great.

00:54:32.000 So people are talking about that. 0.96

00:54:34.000 Well, what's weird is that people think that Trump is so inept, they almost would prefer Mike Pence and even Ted Cruz. 0.99

00:54:41.000 That's terrible. 0.99

00:54:41.000 Terrifying! 0.99

00:54:42.000 But I mean, is it better or worse?

00:54:45.000 It's like you're not even choosing the lesser of two evils.

00:54:48.000 You're choosing incompetence versus this radical right-wing Christian ideology that we were terrified of in the beginning or from the beginning. 0.55

00:54:58.000 It's like Ted Cruz would have been a terrible president, but many people now think he would have been a better president than Donald Trump. 0.99

00:55:05.000 And Ted Cruz and Mike Pence would never have won because they're disgusting creatures. 1.00

00:55:09.000 And Ted Cruz is the creepiest motherfucker I've ever seen where he actually tweeted a photo of a cow made out of butter and said, look at this cow. 1.00

00:55:18.000 And he was like, my daughter's first word was butter. 1.00

00:55:21.000 It's like, wow, you creepy psycho. 0.92

00:55:23.000 Is that creepy to you? 0.99

00:55:24.000 That's creepy?

00:55:25.000 It's just weird.

00:55:26.000 Maybe he's just really into butter.

00:55:27.000 Butter is delicious.

00:55:28.000 It is delicious.

00:55:28.000 It's great on toast.

00:55:29.000 He's super fucking weird. 0.98

00:55:30.000 But yeah, these people would never win without Trump being that conduit to get in the White House. 0.99

00:55:34.000 And so I think that with Trump not there, you don't have this veneer where people are like, oh, Trump's really liberal.

00:55:39.000 Like, oh, no, he really believes in this stuff.

00:55:40.000 It's like you would just have Pence.

00:55:41.000 And that would be really straightforward of exactly who Pence is and what he believes in. 0.98

00:55:45.000 Well, Marco Rubio sucks as a debater, but goddamn he's an eloquent and really well-spoken man outside of those debates. 0.98

00:55:53.000 He just folded under pressure. 0.99

00:55:54.000 He's not good with conflict, but he's been outstanding.

00:55:57.000 Yeah, he's been outstanding since then. 1.00

00:56:00.000 He just doesn't know how to deal with that big fucking looming cult of personality asshole. 1.00

00:56:06.000 He just doesn't know how to deal with it. 1.00

00:56:08.000 Trump is such a baby.

00:56:09.000 He's such a pampered baby. 0.99

00:56:10.000 I saw this chart of how many times, like, you know, this is kind of a stupid thing because I'm not opposed to, like, taking vacations or golfing or whatever, but the amount that he's gone, where he's just, like, gone half the week in Mar-a-Lago, like, golfing. 0.95

00:56:22.000 They've spent $10 million so far in the first hundred days. 0.82

00:56:27.000 Trump spent almost as much money as Obama did in an entire year.

00:56:33.000 On his vacations.

00:56:34.000 That's insane.

00:56:34.000 In the first 100 days.

00:56:36.000 That's insane. 0.99

00:56:36.000 He's so pampered he can't even get away from this world that he's a part of where he has to go to his fucking country club and be surrounded by billionaires. 0.99

00:56:43.000 Well, it's also so incredibly hypocritical because he was constantly complaining about Obama taking vacations and going golfing. 0.98

00:56:49.000 He's golfed more than anybody. 0.64

00:56:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:56:51.000 You look at the first hundred days of Clinton, Bush, Obama, and him, it's like no one has done this.

00:56:55.000 I think Obama maybe went golfing once in the first hundred days, and Trump is like every week, four out of seven days, he's just like gone.

00:57:02.000 It's like, who's running the country here?

00:57:03.000 Yeah, it is weird.

00:57:05.000 It's crazy.

00:57:06.000 I saw something, I don't know if it was yesterday or Sunday, that he hasn't taken an international trip yet.

00:57:11.000 And at this point, I think George Bush had taken two, and Obama had taken eight.

00:57:15.000 Too busy at Mar-a-Lago.

00:57:17.000 International trip for...

00:57:18.000 Out of the country to go meet another...

00:57:20.000 Leader.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, come to me.

00:57:21.000 Come to me.

00:57:22.000 Come play golf.

00:57:24.000 Come on, I got a great place.

00:57:26.000 It's the best.

00:57:27.000 We have the best.

00:57:27.000 The best steaks.

00:57:29.000 The best.

00:57:29.000 Come.

00:57:30.000 The best.

00:57:31.000 We really do.

00:57:32.000 Remember how weird that was when he would have all these props, like the steaks and the manila folders and all these things, like the magazines and shit?

00:57:39.000 He loved all these props.

00:57:40.000 Remember that?

00:57:41.000 No.

00:57:41.000 What do you mean?

00:57:41.000 Oh, it was great.

00:57:42.000 He was doing all these campaign rallies.

00:57:43.000 On one campaign rally, he had a bunch of Trump steaks out on a table.

00:57:47.000 No.

00:57:47.000 Yeah.

00:57:48.000 I swear.

00:57:49.000 Trump steaks.

00:57:50.000 I didn't even know Trump steaks were a thing until last week.

00:57:53.000 Was it Moshe?

00:57:54.000 Moshe turned me on to Trump's takes?

00:57:57.000 Moshe Kasher was a show that's on Comedy Central right now.

00:58:01.000 Moshe's a super hardcore lefty.

00:58:02.000 It's really interesting because he and I were having this conversation on the phone last night.

00:58:05.000 We're texting back and forth.

00:58:06.000 He goes, we were talking about, he asked me to find like a suitable representative of the alt-right to come on his show and sort of talk about these ideas.

00:58:15.000 And I'm like, oh boy. 0.99

00:58:18.000 Like, who the fuck is a suitable representative? 0.99

00:58:21.000 So I threw some people at him. 0.99

00:58:23.000 Every name I threw at him, he's like, ugh!

00:58:25.000 I'm like, I know!

00:58:27.000 I know, but that's what you're asking for.

00:58:29.000 He's like, Milo would have been great, but he's so tainted now.

00:58:31.000 I'm like, yeah, I get it.

00:58:33.000 I love how pedophilia is the thing that brought him down.

00:58:36.000 And it was from this show. 0.85

00:58:37.000 Yeah, crazy.

00:58:38.000 Out of all places, it's like, wow, they just...

00:58:40.000 You get loose.

00:58:40.000 Three hours, you get loose.

00:58:42.000 Start talking about what you really think.

00:58:44.000 Your reaction was really funny to that, too.

00:58:45.000 You're like, that sounds like...

00:58:47.000 Well, he was trying to justify his own victimization.

00:58:51.000 He was molested as a child.

00:58:53.000 He was trying to turn it around and say that he was...

00:58:55.000 He said I was the predator.

00:58:57.000 Don't get it wrong.

00:59:00.000 He's basically trying to empower himself. 0.99

00:59:03.000 He was fucked by a priest when he was 13. I mean, this is the reality of his life. 0.99

00:59:08.000 That is terrible.

00:59:11.000 And he's trying to figure out a way where that empowers him.

00:59:15.000 I find it interesting like the Tommy Lauren thing was fired because she was pro-choice it's like that went too far for the blaze you know like the pedophilia things too far for for the alt-right I was thinking that about Hillary Clinton how crazy would it be if Chelsea Clinton went to work for the blaze oh god if she just started she started going super hardcore right and she's got two flags motorcycle jacket on pearly whites Hey,

00:59:39.000 just go interrupt those anti-war demonstrations again, Chelsea. 1.00

00:59:42.000 Yeah.

00:59:43.000 Just like you used to.

00:59:45.000 God, what a nightmare.

00:59:46.000 I mean, what do you think about the Syria thing, though?

00:59:48.000 Trump, within two days of the chemical weapons attack, he's already bombing Assad.

00:59:52.000 And that was a big point of contention, I know, with the Alex Jones community, with the alt-right.

00:59:56.000 I think a lot of them were anti-intervention because that's what he was saying.

00:59:59.000 And so what do you think is going on?

01:00:01.000 Because you have that whole argument where like, oh, all these people are pulling him in different directions.

01:00:05.000 He doesn't really want to do this.

01:00:06.000 What do you think?

01:00:07.000 Well, I think he's incredibly impulsive.

01:00:09.000 I mean, that's sort of been established that he's very impulsive. 0.98

01:00:12.000 So I also think that he's got this desire to be a strong leader and to be a guy who makes strong decisions and it's not going to take any bullshit. 0.90

01:00:22.000 You know, and I worry about that. 0.99

01:00:24.000 That scares the shit out of me.

01:00:25.000 Because when you really find out how much the power the president has in terms of like launching a nuclear strike, And then you look at the conflict that we're getting into with North Korea. 0.82

01:00:36.000 It's entirely possible.

01:00:37.000 I mean, they are moving nuclear submarines right now as we speak off the coast of North Korea.

01:00:42.000 That is happening right now as we speak.

01:00:45.000 They were talking about it today.

01:00:46.000 It's in the news right now. 0.97

01:00:48.000 This is terrifying because if they decide to launch a warhead at North Korea, The odds of someone retaliating are so fucking high. 0.62

01:00:59.000 And if they do retaliate, it's probably going to be Los Angeles.

01:01:02.000 It's probably, I mean, we're the closest.

01:01:04.000 We're the closest to North Korea.

01:01:05.000 And we're also the closest, I guess, we would be the target for China.

01:01:11.000 I guess we would be the target for a lot of places.

01:01:14.000 Yeah, let's talk about this North Korea thing really quickly, because the media is painting it like North Korea, like we're going to strike back, really.

01:01:21.000 When North Korea has repeatedly said, we will never strike the US ever, we'll never strike anyone unless we're attacked.

01:01:27.000 What are they doing that we're so intense with them right now?

01:01:30.000 They are doing missile tests.

01:01:33.000 They don't even work.

01:01:34.000 They tried a missile and it blew up. 0.88

01:01:36.000 But that's how crazy the US is.

01:01:39.000 And we have historical amnesia where Americans don't know geography until we bomb somewhere, right? 0.52

01:01:44.000 So we have completely no memory about the Korean War, where the US military invaded North Korea Most people don't even know.

01:02:12.000 Like, they don't even think about, why is there a North and a South Korea? 0.97

01:02:15.000 Like, what the fuck is this, you know? 0.84

01:02:18.000 So, Kim Jong-un, obviously, probably what he's learned by now, in terms of U.S. empire, imperialism, and interventions, is that you have to not only act like you will use nukes, like you have to have nukes, and you have to act like you will use them if you get attacked, unless you want to get invaded. 0.98

01:02:34.000 Look what happened with Gaddafi, Saddam, all these things.

01:02:37.000 Assad, you give up your chemical weapons, and then it doesn't matter.

01:02:42.000 Well, I'm terrified.

01:02:44.000 I'm terrified of this whole North Korea conflict, as I think everybody is.

01:02:48.000 It's a terrifying place, first of all, because it's one of the last really obvious military dictatorships in this country, in the world, rather.

01:02:56.000 There's not a whole lot of them left.

01:02:57.000 But that's one of the last ones.

01:02:59.000 It's one of the ones that's like, you can see, they're so extreme.

01:03:03.000 You see them goose-stepping, walking down the street.

01:03:05.000 You see the people wailing in agony when Kim Jong-il died.

01:03:10.000 Like, it's a very, very strange world where people are born in prison and they live as prisoners their whole life and some of them have escaped and detailed the horrors of the prisons and what's going on over there.

01:03:22.000 That's what worries me is because it won't be hard to sell.

01:03:25.000 Exactly.

01:03:26.000 People already are like, of course, North Korea is horrible. 0.99

01:03:29.000 They have prison camps, labor camps.

01:03:30.000 It's undeniable.

01:03:31.000 So, like, yeah, I guess we should just do regime change there.

01:03:33.000 Well, that's what I was going to get to, is what you had said before the podcast started, that it's a massive reserve of minerals in North Korea.

01:03:42.000 And this is what you and I were talking about, conflict minerals and phones, before the podcast started.

01:03:47.000 And that they know that this...

01:03:49.000 By the way, also Afghanistan.

01:03:51.000 Trillions of dollars of minerals in Afghanistan.

01:03:54.000 Conflict minerals.

01:03:55.000 Absolutely. 0.97

01:03:56.000 That's probably why we're still fucking there, to be honest. 1.00

01:03:58.000 16 years later, we dropped that mother of all bombs, that dick measuring contest that Trump just laid his dick out on the table and was like, I'm going to drop this giant fucking bomb, dust it off from the shelf. 1.00

01:04:10.000 It's been sitting there. 1.00

01:04:11.000 Bush wasn't even crazy enough to use it.

01:04:12.000 And all of a sudden people are like, wait, we're still in Afghanistan?

01:04:15.000 And ISIS is there now?

01:04:16.000 Like, no one asks any questions.

01:04:19.000 Why is ISIS there?

01:04:20.000 Why are we still in Afghanistan?

01:04:21.000 Everyone's like, oh, cool.

01:04:23.000 Drop another one.

01:04:24.000 Let me see the video.

01:04:25.000 Where's the video?

01:04:25.000 Yeah, let me see the video.

01:04:26.000 Lindsey Graham's like, oh, cool. 0.90

01:04:30.000 It's disgusting, dude.

01:04:31.000 I mean, there was 95,000, I think 100,000 people who lived in the Aachen district. 0.83

01:04:35.000 Like, this wasn't just a mountain region with goats.

01:04:40.000 I mean, there were people there. 0.99

01:04:41.000 The way that Afghans are dehumanized and the way that the media cheered on the Syria strike and this Moab thing makes me fucking sick. 0.95

01:04:50.000 Brian Williams is sitting up there quoting Leonard Cohen. 0.97

01:04:53.000 He was like, they're beautiful.

01:04:54.000 The bombs are beautiful.

01:04:56.000 He said it a bunch of times.

01:04:58.000 It was amazing. 1.00

01:04:59.000 Disgusting. 0.90

01:04:59.000 Like 30 seconds. 0.90

01:05:00.000 It was weird.

01:05:01.000 It was sick.

01:05:02.000 It was almost like he's trying to make up for the fact that he lied about being in that helicopter.

01:05:07.000 He's trying really hard to make up for it.

01:05:08.000 He's like, look, you just got to go hardcore right.

01:05:12.000 Just go all the way.

01:05:13.000 Just talk about how beautiful it is. 0.99

01:05:15.000 And it was like, and then Fareed Zakaria, you know, here they are telling us that Trump is a mentally unfit puppet of Russia who's retarded, yet the second he starts bombing, it's like, oh, love at first strike. 0.98

01:05:26.000 Like, he started bombing Assad, now we all love him. 0.93

01:05:28.000 Rachel Maddow has been talking the last 30 days or three months, six months, about how he needs to be impeached, he's guided by Putin, and then the second he started bombing Syria, oh, it becomes a commercial for Tomahawk missiles.

01:05:39.000 Rachel Maddow did a 30-minute segment just analyzing how efficient Tomahawk missiles are. 0.94

01:05:44.000 Isn't that great?

01:05:45.000 Why do you think she did that? 0.99

01:05:47.000 I think that there's a bipartisan establishment consensus on foreign policy and there has been...

01:05:53.000 This is what the Empire does.

01:05:55.000 The corporate media completely loves the Empire.

01:05:59.000 They love imperialism.

01:06:00.000 They love selling wars.

01:06:01.000 They have for a long time.

01:06:03.000 Joe, that's how I became a journalist because I saw the Iraq war being sold by quote leftists or liberals on TV and I just couldn't understand why they were selling a completely insane unnecessary illegal war.

01:06:14.000 Well, there was a lot of people that were selling it, or at least in support of it, because we were really terrified after 9-11.

01:06:20.000 So after 9-11, there was this movement to do something, and this massive amount of people that ordinarily would have a lot of distrust towards the right, they all of a sudden were trusting in Bush and trusting in the government to go and take adequate measures. 0.99

01:06:36.000 That's bullshit. 0.98

01:06:36.000 That's not a journalist's job. 0.98

01:06:36.000 Right. 0.98

01:06:37.000 You're not supposed to be a stenographer because you're scared.

01:06:39.000 That's like the time that you're supposed to step up and say, okay, I need to question my government's claims because we're in such a state of hysteria and acquiescence that I need to, as a journalist, question authority, question my government.

01:06:50.000 That's the number one job that you have.

01:06:52.000 What was your thought?

01:06:53.000 Well, you're not old enough, really.

01:06:55.000 How old were you at September 11th?

01:06:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:57.000 No, I was 18, so I was...

01:06:59.000 Did you have any...

01:07:00.000 Obviously, when you're 18, it's hard to formulate...

01:07:03.000 Yeah.

01:07:04.000 No, I was stunned.

01:07:07.000 I mean, I agreed with the Afghanistan war at the time because I didn't really know. 0.94

01:07:10.000 And then I went into college and learned about what the fuck this government and country has been doing to the rest of the world and what militarism and empire has been doing. 0.94

01:07:16.000 So I kind of put it together. 0.97

01:07:18.000 But that was just Afghanistan.

01:07:19.000 I really woke up when one day my mom called me and she was like, did Saddam bomb us?

01:07:25.000 She said because every single media outlet has just switched over from Afghanistan to Iraq, unquestioningly.

01:07:31.000 So do you think that, like, Rachel Maddow, for me, always seems like if there's anybody that's not towing the line, it's that lesbian. 0.83

01:07:38.000 Oh, she's towing the line. 0.99

01:07:39.000 But it doesn't seem like she would be. 0.97

01:07:41.000 Like, she would be, like, the perfect person to sell you some shit that, you know, like, you would never buy as a person on the left. 0.95

01:07:49.000 Because she's, like, she's super articulate. 0.99

01:07:52.000 She's wicked smart. 0.99

01:07:54.000 And she's obviously a lesbian. 1.00

01:07:55.000 And she's got short hair. 0.99

01:07:56.000 And she hated Trump.

01:07:58.000 So, like, if you wanted to sell something, she's your huckleberry. 1.00

01:08:02.000 And she was trying to sell that Russia shit real hard. 1.00

01:08:04.000 I mean, she talked more about Russia than any other issue. 0.99

01:08:06.000 And that's the problem with this so-called resistance, is that when you focus on a fake issue, like Russia usurping Trump's brain or, like, occupying Trump's brain and puppeting him, then you forget about all the rapid-fire executive orders he's throwing down.

01:08:20.000 You aren't focusing on the real important things that he's doing that we could actually galvanize and stop.

01:08:25.000 And especially when you're just pro-war. 0.99

01:08:27.000 These motherfuckers are funded by defense contractors and banks. 1.00

01:08:30.000 That's what the corporate media is. 1.00

01:08:32.000 That's what the corporate media is.

01:08:33.000 Do you know who's gone all in that it's been like a coup against Russia?

01:08:38.000 What's homeboy's name that used to be on ESPN? Oh my god, Keith Olbermann!

01:08:42.000 Did you see Kermit the Frog where he's covered in the American flag?

01:08:48.000 Did you see that?

01:08:49.000 He's going crazy!

01:08:49.000 Wait, we should look that up.

01:08:50.000 He's got a whole thing.

01:08:51.000 It looks like he's in a basement somewhere.

01:08:53.000 Dude.

01:08:54.000 GQ sponsored.

01:08:56.000 That's the resistance.

01:08:57.000 Sponsored by GQ. What is going on with him?

01:08:59.000 Does he have children?

01:09:01.000 I don't know what the hell is going on with him.

01:09:03.000 I used to really, really like him.

01:09:06.000 Psychologically, I used to as well.

01:09:08.000 I used to think that he had some interesting rants.

01:09:10.000 I think the problem is too many people liked it and then he like got drunk with it.

01:09:15.000 It seems like now he's...

01:09:18.000 His speeches are almost like a parody of a guy who is...

01:09:23.000 It's almost like an old Christian Slater movie about a guy who's got some sort of a ham radio thing and he's fighting against the oppressive government.

01:09:32.000 It's really weird.

01:09:33.000 It's really cartoonish.

01:09:34.000 Yes, cartoonish is the right word.

01:09:36.000 It's really weird.

01:09:37.000 And I saw this one side-by-side meme of him draped in the American flag and he's like...

01:09:42.000 This, you know, on the cover of GQ, and then someone put Kermit the Frog, like, draped in the back.

01:09:47.000 This is what Keith Olbermann thinks he looks like, and this is what he really looks like.

01:09:49.000 And it was just, like, a little frog in a...

01:09:51.000 It's just nuts.

01:09:52.000 I mean, what the hell is this guy doing?

01:09:54.000 And what is GQ doing?

01:09:56.000 I don't know! 0.99

01:09:57.000 It's like you have Teen Vogue somehow leading the resistance, and GQ, like, what the fuck country is this? 0.99

01:10:05.000 His videos are so strange. 0.99

01:10:06.000 They're so verbose. 0.96

01:10:08.000 It's like, God damn, dude, is this a first draft? 0.99

01:10:11.000 Apparently it is. 0.99

01:10:12.000 It seems like you got a lot of extra words in there.

01:10:14.000 We could trim that down a little bit and have a little more impact.

01:10:18.000 Wait, I wrote this down because I wanted to say this.

01:10:21.000 This is insane.

01:10:23.000 So the Pentagon just came out with a number.

01:10:25.000 It said 70,000 people have been killed as a result of bombing Syria and Iraq since 2014. You're like, okay, that's crazy.

01:10:32.000 They called them militants.

01:10:34.000 We already know that militant can be just a military-age male.

01:10:37.000 So really, they include militants.

01:10:39.000 You could be a militant feminist. 1.00

01:10:40.000 You could be a militant feminist. 1.00

01:10:41.000 You could be a short-haired lesbian on the ground, and they think that you're a man. 1.00

01:10:46.000 So they include like anyone who's probably over the age of 10 and a male as a militant.

01:10:52.000 So anyway, these numbers are 70,000 people, right, killed.

01:10:55.000 And then they said only 229 civilians were killed.

01:11:00.000 So 70,000 militants, 229 civilians.

01:11:04.000 Here's another interesting part.

01:11:05.000 The CIA in 2014 estimated that there were only between 30,000 to 40,000 ISIS fighters killed.

01:11:11.000 In Syria and Iraq. 0.93

01:11:12.000 So I'm sorry, where the fuck did these other 30,000 people come from? 0.99

01:11:16.000 And did you kill all ISIS? Like, all ISIS was gone. 0.99

01:11:20.000 Somehow they're back because they're still there.

01:11:23.000 What year was the estimate?

01:11:24.000 2014 is when they said there were probably 30 to 40,000.

01:11:27.000 And then the Pentagon just came out, and this is according to the LA Times, 70,000 militants killed since 2014. Only 200 civilians.

01:11:34.000 Don't worry about it.

01:11:35.000 Wow, that makes me feel really good.

01:11:36.000 Yeah, isn't that great?

01:11:37.000 I'm not nervous anymore.

01:11:38.000 I feel pretty good. 1.00

01:11:40.000 Just killing a bunch of terrorists. 1.00

01:11:42.000 Wow. 1.00

01:11:43.000 That's nuts.

01:11:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:11:45.000 No one questions this shit, man. 1.00

01:11:46.000 It's sick. 1.00

01:11:48.000 Well, I watch House of Cards, so I have a really good grasp of the political system.

01:11:53.000 Is the new season out yet?

01:11:55.000 Not yet.

01:11:56.000 Next month.

01:11:57.000 I'm still on the old.

01:11:57.000 I just started this year.

01:11:59.000 Really?

01:11:59.000 So yeah, I binge watched.

01:12:00.000 I went from the 2012 episodes all the way to...

01:12:04.000 I'm on season four right now. 0.94

01:12:05.000 Goddamn, it's good. 0.98

01:12:07.000 I stopped watching when it became really like all about the Putin character because you know first Frank Underwood's like he kills a journalist and then... 0.98

01:12:15.000 Don't say anymore.

01:12:16.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:12:17.000 Spoiler alert.

01:12:17.000 There's a lot of people out there listening.

01:12:19.000 Spoiler alert.

01:12:19.000 Jesus Christ.

01:12:20.000 Sorry. 1.00

01:12:21.000 Robin White, that bitch is badass though. 1.00

01:12:22.000 She is. 1.00

01:12:23.000 I'll tell you what.

01:12:23.000 She directs some of the best episodes too.

01:12:26.000 Really?

01:12:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:12:27.000 She directed one I watched last night.

01:12:29.000 I was like, Jesus.

01:12:30.000 Good creepy camera angles and...

01:12:32.000 They remind me of the Clintons.

01:12:34.000 Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:12:36.000 That's why I thought it should have been illegal for Hillary to even run. 1.00

01:12:41.000 Yeah.

01:12:42.000 Because I look at them as a unit, just like the Underwoods, you know, and they work together where Clinton even admitted that Hillary was the one who sold the Yugoslavia bombing and stuff. 0.57

01:12:50.000 And she was like, I'm going to appoint Bill to run the economy.

01:12:53.000 It's like, again?

01:12:54.000 He already destroyed the economy back in the 90s.

01:12:57.000 How is this legal?

01:12:58.000 My favorite footage of her of all time, what you really got to see behind the wizard's curtain, was when Gaddafi died.

01:13:06.000 That was sick.

01:13:07.000 When she was literally throwing back her head laughing, going, we came, we saw, he died!

01:13:14.000 Ha ha ha ha ha! 0.98

01:13:15.000 After he was raped by a bayonet from the rebels that we funded. 1.00

01:13:18.000 And you could watch it, like you could see him get stabbed in the asshole. 1.00

01:13:22.000 You can watch him. 1.00

01:13:23.000 You can watch him terrified.

01:13:25.000 And he doesn't even react.

01:13:27.000 He's so gripped in horror. 0.66

01:13:30.000 And then they're shooting him and killing him and they trot him around his dead body. 1.00

01:13:34.000 It's fucked up. 1.00

01:13:35.000 But watching that guy shove that bayonet up his ass, it's like, whoa! 1.00

01:13:39.000 And what was the premise of the Libya thing? 1.00

01:13:41.000 Now it's a completely failed state.

01:13:43.000 ISIS has totally taken over the country.

01:13:44.000 And where are all the interventionists that were cheering on the Libya bombing?

01:13:48.000 And they all said Gaddafi was on the verge of committing a massacre in Benghazi.

01:13:51.000 And we have to go in.

01:13:52.000 We have to do the no-fly zone.

01:13:53.000 Where are all these people now?

01:13:55.000 Where are these cheerleaders now? 1.00

01:13:56.000 Yeah, I just got a Twitter message.

01:13:58.000 It's the same argument in Syria.

01:13:59.000 From a guy who lives in Libya.

01:14:01.000 It was pretty deep.

01:14:02.000 What did he say?

01:14:03.000 Just terrified.

01:14:04.000 He wants to talk about it.

01:14:06.000 This would love to be a guest on the podcast.

01:14:09.000 I think the idea that you're gonna remove a dictator and then everything's gonna be fine is so crazy.

01:14:18.000 It's insane.

01:14:19.000 It's never worked.

01:14:21.000 Ever.

01:14:21.000 But it'll work in Syria!

01:14:23.000 It's like, maybe good?

01:14:25.000 What do you do?

01:14:26.000 Like, what do you do? 0.99

01:14:27.000 You don't fucking do anything! 0.99

01:14:29.000 Did you let those people suffer? 1.00

01:14:30.000 No, you don't let them suffer.

01:14:32.000 We're the police officers of the world.

01:14:33.000 When has any humanitarian intervention resulted in anything good?

01:14:37.000 Can you tell me that?

01:14:38.000 That's a good question.

01:14:39.000 It's always killed more people than we're trying to save.

01:14:42.000 Like, Trump bombed Syria because kids were gassed, and in the meantime killed kids when he was bombing them.

01:14:48.000 Germany now makes great cars, and they used to make Nazis. 1.00

01:14:55.000 So...

01:14:56.000 Have you heard the Norm Macdonald bit about, oh man, he has the best Nazi jokes. 0.97

01:15:01.000 No.

01:15:02.000 So good. 0.95

01:15:03.000 Norm is so crazy.

01:15:04.000 Out of all the comedians, he really pulls it off. 0.60

01:15:07.000 What'd he say?

01:15:08.000 Dude, let's watch it.

01:15:09.000 What is it?

01:15:10.000 Is it recent?

01:15:11.000 I mean, he's done a million...

01:15:13.000 Norm is so crazy. 1.00

01:15:15.000 He's nuts. 1.00

01:15:16.000 He's such a character. 0.99

01:15:17.000 He's so good.

01:15:18.000 He's always wearing a Letterman jacket.

01:15:21.000 It's just nuts.

01:15:23.000 That's who he is, too.

01:15:25.000 You know, he doesn't even drive.

01:15:27.000 Oh, yeah, he's scared of driving.

01:15:29.000 He's so weird.

01:15:30.000 I flew with him randomly, twice.

01:15:33.000 Just randomly.

01:15:34.000 Just, like, happened to be in the plane?

01:15:36.000 Totally.

01:15:36.000 Really?

01:15:37.000 Total dumb luck. 1.00

01:15:38.000 Crazy. 0.99

01:15:38.000 On two separate occasions, Norm sat right next to me. 0.99

01:15:41.000 He was like, ah, I can't believe this is happening again.

01:15:43.000 What a treat.

01:15:43.000 Yeah, the last one was hilarious.

01:15:46.000 We have this long conversation.

01:15:48.000 We're having a great old time, and he's telling me, yeah, quit smoking.

01:15:51.000 I don't like to smoke anymore.

01:15:53.000 It's just terrible.

01:15:54.000 It was so hard to quit, but I'm glad I did.

01:15:55.000 We land, and he immediately walks right into a gift shop and buys cigarettes.

01:16:00.000 He goes, I changed my mind.

01:16:01.000 I want to start smoking again.

01:16:02.000 And he's lighting before he gets out the door.

01:16:05.000 I mean, he's so impulsive.

01:16:06.000 He's like lighting as he's walking towards the door.

01:16:09.000 I'm like, whoa.

01:16:10.000 Like, Norm, what are you doing?

01:16:11.000 He goes, yeah, I guess I smoke again.

01:16:14.000 He just...

01:16:17.000 There's people out there that are pretending to be wacky.

01:16:20.000 Right, right.

01:16:21.000 He's really wacky.

01:16:22.000 I love those people.

01:16:23.000 There's so few of them.

01:16:24.000 Who's just themselves, no matter what.

01:16:26.000 Yeah, that's who Norm is.

01:16:28.000 He's great.

01:16:29.000 He's so funny.

01:16:30.000 David Cross's new special is really good.

01:16:32.000 Actually, it's not new.

01:16:33.000 It was before Trump got elected, but it's hysterical.

01:16:36.000 His stuff on gun control is really, really funny.

01:16:39.000 And he's doing it to like a Houston audience where it's a lot of Trump supporters and he just goes balls to the wall like everyone's walking out.

01:16:45.000 Really? 0.83

01:16:46.000 Yeah, it's nuts.

01:16:48.000 Houston's a strange place because there's a lot of liberals in Houston.

01:16:52.000 Houston is way more diversified than it gets credit for.

01:16:55.000 Yeah.

01:16:55.000 It's a very interesting city.

01:16:57.000 It's very interesting.

01:16:58.000 I feel like Dallas is way more...

01:17:01.000 Austin is the super lefty part.

01:17:03.000 It's the most lefty part of Texas.

01:17:06.000 But Houston is way more cut down the middle.

01:17:09.000 It's almost like it's a split of Austin and Dallas.

01:17:13.000 That's cool.

01:17:14.000 I love Houston.

01:17:16.000 You got Austin left, Dallas is pretty right, and then you've got Houston, which is like a combo plate.

01:17:23.000 Nice.

01:17:23.000 How are people reacting to your bit?

01:17:25.000 Do you have any Trump jokes?

01:17:27.000 People get mad. 0.99

01:17:27.000 Duncan said that people fucking attacked him. 0.99

01:17:29.000 I've seen videos of people getting attacked for saying Trump. 0.99

01:17:32.000 How are you not making fun of Trump?

01:17:34.000 It's Donald Trump.

01:17:36.000 Well, they'll get it.

01:17:37.000 They'll get it eventually.

01:17:38.000 It'll take a little time.

01:17:39.000 I mean, there's no way...

01:17:41.000 The snowflakes?

01:17:42.000 Yeah.

01:17:42.000 There's no way this is going to keep going and be good.

01:17:47.000 I really think, and this is what I think, and I don't think this is necessarily a reflection of who Donald Trump is.

01:17:53.000 I just think the idea of a president is preposterous.

01:17:57.000 The idea of one person that has that much power over hundreds of millions of people is insane.

01:18:04.000 It's an idea that was created back when people rode horses and rode with feathers. 0.99

01:18:09.000 They used to fucking... 0.99

01:18:11.000 I mean, that's really what it was. 0.99

01:18:13.000 I mean, the whole representative government.

01:18:15.000 You had to have a representative government because some people live in North Dakota. 0.99

01:18:18.000 And how the fuck would you get word to Washington? 0.99

01:18:20.000 Well, you had to have somebody talking for you. 1.00

01:18:21.000 Well, now you could send an email, you fuck. 1.00

01:18:23.000 You could vote online. 1.00

01:18:24.000 The idea is antiquated.

01:18:26.000 It's so behind the times.

01:18:27.000 And it's so behind the times to have one person have any sort of massive power.

01:18:33.000 And also...

01:18:34.000 I feel like the government works very hard to stop monopolies in certain sectors.

01:18:40.000 Why don't they work so hard to stop it in government? 0.99

01:18:43.000 Because this left versus right, this Republican versus Democrat thing is a goddamn ruse. 0.99

01:18:48.000 It's fake. 0.99

01:18:49.000 Great question.

01:18:51.000 It's people.

01:18:52.000 It's like, I think scholars, educators, people who actually understand the consequences of these ideological structures that we're trapped in.

01:19:01.000 These are structures.

01:19:03.000 Left versus right is a structure because they provide you with a predetermined pattern of behavior that you adopt.

01:19:11.000 And there's many, many easily influenced people that go super hardcore right or super hardcore left because they want Social brownie points within the structure and that's a natural part of being a human it's a natural part of tribal behavior and It has to be addressed and it has to be addressed openly it has to be addressed from an Understanding a fundamental understanding about the way the human mind works and the way the human psychology works and our need for social acceptance works There's

01:19:41.000 a lot of the way we behave that's just based and predicated on these really simple obvious principles that everybody knows peer pressure The desire to be loved, those things all play a massive part in how you're manipulated and how you manipulate yourself.

01:19:57.000 You convince yourself of certain things.

01:19:59.000 I really firmly believe that when you go super hard right and super hard left, the distance between these two is not nearly as far as you think.

01:20:09.000 And that the ideological point of views and what they want and what they're trying to accomplish is very different, but the way they think The way they've locked themselves into these predetermined thought patterns.

01:20:24.000 They're not much different.

01:20:25.000 They just were indoctrinated one way or indoctrinated another way.

01:20:29.000 They might have gone through the church system or they might have gone through the university system, but they've sort of both taken these hardline stances, whereas the reality of the world and of most reasonable people is there's a lot of weirdness and there's a lot of Yeah,

01:20:57.000 I think.

01:21:08.000 Oh yeah, totally.

01:21:09.000 Don't they have like 16 different political parties or something crazy?

01:21:12.000 It's insane that we have this two-party dictatorship and I was reading this quote from Chris Hedges that really says it all.

01:21:18.000 It's like exactly what you're saying right now.

01:21:20.000 You have, you know, conservatives across the country who are worried about abortion and obsessing about these issues and then you have the liberals in New York who are obsessing about creationism in schools. 0.99

01:21:29.000 Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs continues to fucking win. 0.99

01:21:32.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:21:32.000 It doesn't matter what you guys are squabbling about on the ground. 0.99

01:21:36.000 Left, right, liberal, conservative, like, these people are in power and they're going to further entrench their power. 0.89

01:21:41.000 We're all the losers here.

01:21:43.000 And it's, yeah, like you were just saying, I mean, why do we have a system that props up these two parties that, going back to the corporate media, continues to sell war after war, continues to just sell off our government to corporations?

01:21:55.000 It's just the matter of which they do so.

01:21:58.000 Yeah.

01:21:59.000 Well, control of groups.

01:22:00.000 Anytime you have one person or one organization that has control over a group, whether it's a dictatorship, whether it's a government, it's like, what is a government for?

01:22:11.000 Is it to control groups of people or is it to provide people with services like schools and utilities and infrastructure?

01:22:20.000 That should be really what it is.

01:22:22.000 And the idea that war is inexorable.

01:22:25.000 It's inexorable.

01:22:26.000 You can't remove it from our culture.

01:22:28.000 If you ask people, do you envision a time in your life where war doesn't exist?

01:22:32.000 No one says yes.

01:22:34.000 How sad is that?

01:22:35.000 It's crazy.

01:22:36.000 It's crazy.

01:22:37.000 We just live in a war economy where that's just a necessity.

01:22:40.000 It's like, well, we have to have just endless war, right?

01:22:42.000 What is that?

01:22:42.000 Is that the disconnection between human beings based on financial situations, based on language, based on culture, based on religion?

01:22:52.000 All these differences are so vast that we have to launch bombs out of planes.

01:22:56.000 I mean, it's an indoctrination of American exceptionalism.

01:22:59.000 Going back to the historical amnesia about what this government has done, the rest of the world hasn't forgotten.

01:23:03.000 The rest of the world is very acutely aware of what the empire does on a daily basis.

01:23:08.000 We have no idea.

01:23:10.000 Right, but it's every country.

01:23:11.000 I mean, every country with a military tries to enforce that military in some way, shape, or form on other countries.

01:23:18.000 I mean, it's gone on since the beginning of time, as far as people getting together in groups and then going over and conquering other people that have resources.

01:23:28.000 Well, some people would say it's the it's the system, the economic system that once you control one area, you have to move capital and extract capital from other areas through force through military force.

01:23:39.000 And that's the extension of imperialism through capitalism.

01:23:42.000 And then so you just go and now we're the biggest, most powerful empire controlling the entire world.

01:23:47.000 And we have to go after the last remaining sovereign, quote unquote, sovereign states to completely control.

01:23:53.000 I mean, yes, other countries have done that before, but never on the level of what we're doing.

01:23:58.000 If we could just get everybody to speak English and everybody to listen to us, we would be fine.

01:24:03.000 What we need to do is wipe out all the other cultures. 1.00

01:24:06.000 We need to just wipe out all the other languages. 1.00

01:24:10.000 That's cultural Marxism.

01:24:10.000 We need cultural Marxism.

01:24:11.000 We just need a dictatorship, a one Trump world.

01:24:15.000 I was going to ask you, how do you feel about the...

01:24:17.000 I feel like the level of discourse has gone to the point, back to the reactionary thing.

01:24:21.000 Someone was telling me this last night, that the word responsibility, it's like, you know, your ability to respond.

01:24:27.000 Your ability to understand a situation, respond, and not just react.

01:24:31.000 And I feel like so much of our culture is just reacting to news without even understanding what the hell is going on.

01:24:36.000 You know, the Twitter universe where it's just like you see something and you react.

01:24:40.000 And what does that do to critical thinking?

01:24:43.000 What does that do to discourse when you do not understand issues or have the ability to respond, the responsibility to engage?

01:24:50.000 Well, not only that, you're being inundated by so much data.

01:24:53.000 If you look at something, you're looking at a headline really quick.

01:24:56.000 Yep.

01:24:56.000 So many people have no idea what the article even says.

01:24:59.000 Well, like we did.

01:25:00.000 Like I did, about that EPA article.

01:25:02.000 Totally. 1.00

01:25:02.000 Yeah, I mean, like, you hear that shit? 1.00

01:25:04.000 And you could be at a gas station right now, talking to a friend, like, you remember that? 1.00

01:25:08.000 Fucking government, they're shutting down the database so the EPA can't even get a hold of the information. 0.99

01:25:12.000 This is crazy, we gotta organize. 1.00

01:25:14.000 Meanwhile, you're not even reading.

01:25:15.000 Right.

01:25:16.000 I didn't read it.

01:25:17.000 I just told you about it.

01:25:18.000 I had Jamie pull it up, and then we found out.

01:25:20.000 If it wasn't for Jamie pulling it up, I would have probably pirated that out for a couple days.

01:25:25.000 Somebody would have had to tell me on Twitter, hey man, it's a hoax.

01:25:28.000 I would have sheepishly retweeted it. 1.00

01:25:31.000 Shit, it's a hoax. 1.00

01:25:36.000 There's too much coming at us, Abby. 1.00

01:25:38.000 There's too much.

01:25:39.000 We can't handle it.

01:25:41.000 That's totally true.

01:25:42.000 There's too much info.

01:25:43.000 That's totally true, man.

01:25:44.000 It's part of the whole thing with the internet, is like these little 140-character soundbites you're getting off Twitter, but then the fact that it's coming at you from websites, it's coming at you from Facebook, it's coming at you from Instagram, it's just coming at you in a way that,

01:25:59.000 like, there's no fucking way you can keep up with all this. 0.76

01:26:01.000 There's no way. 0.96

01:26:02.000 And that's part of what's going on with people.

01:26:05.000 Absolutely.

01:26:06.000 And so there's an embracing of anti-intellectualism that you're seeing now that I think is a response to that.

01:26:13.000 I think people are scared.

01:26:15.000 And one of the things they're trying to do, when people are scared, they do a couple of things.

01:26:19.000 One thing they do is- Promote flat earth. 0.92

01:26:24.000 There's little of that!

01:26:25.000 Longing for nostalgia back when they thought the earth was flat. 0.98

01:26:29.000 I get more fucking angry people online because of flat earth than anything I've ever done other than make fun of vegans. 0.98

01:26:38.000 No way. 0.99

01:26:39.000 Like people who are flat earthers and angry that you...

01:26:41.000 Don't agree?

01:26:42.000 So mad.

01:26:43.000 Really?

01:26:43.000 So mad.

01:26:44.000 There's that many?

01:26:44.000 Every day I get called a shill.

01:26:46.000 Every day I'm a round earth shill and they tell me, this is where it gets really hilarious.

01:26:50.000 I see where your checks are being cashed, bro.

01:26:52.000 By the round earth society.

01:26:54.000 I'm getting round earth shill checks.

01:26:56.000 I get them in the mail.

01:26:57.000 Is George Soros controlling that?

01:26:58.000 Yes, George Soros sends me $3 a month and I've been open about it.

01:27:02.000 $3 every month to promote the idea that the earth is round for less than the price of a grande Starbucks coffee.

01:27:10.000 I am willing.

01:27:10.000 I'm still waiting for my protest checks, man.

01:27:12.000 You've got to get a protest check.

01:27:14.000 It's so good.

01:27:15.000 You spend it.

01:27:16.000 You feel so good.

01:27:17.000 Especially if you could eat it like a whale sandwich.

01:27:20.000 You spend your money on something terrible.

01:27:22.000 You get that protest money and you spend it on something horrible to balance it out.

01:27:25.000 You've been to Iceland, right?

01:27:27.000 No.

01:27:28.000 Have you?

01:27:28.000 Is it awesome?

01:27:29.000 It is amazing.

01:27:30.000 I want to go just for the Northern Lights.

01:27:32.000 But the food is so bad because they only eat whale, horse...

01:27:37.000 Well, they have this pickled, this fermented shark.

01:27:41.000 Yeah, the fermented shark.

01:27:42.000 It's supposed to be the foulest thing on Earth, and they love it.

01:27:45.000 It's almost kind of like the moon, where you're like, there's not even insects here, so you understand why they have to import all their fisheries.

01:27:50.000 You're like, why do people live here?

01:27:53.000 It's just nuts. 0.98

01:27:54.000 Yeah, they have to bring in their stuff in boxes and barges and shit. 0.99

01:27:57.000 Look, we have a plant. 0.99

01:27:59.000 Eat it quickly before it spoils.

01:28:02.000 They seem like really cool people, though.

01:28:04.000 They grow giants.

01:28:06.000 Like they have a disproportionate number of like strongman winners that come from Iceland.

01:28:11.000 Yeah, Vice did a whole thing on them. 0.98

01:28:13.000 They're fucking, these enormous Viking dudes that live up there. 0.98

01:28:16.000 I know they filmed some of the, some of Game of Thrones up there. 0.99

01:28:19.000 It's, it's stunning.

01:28:20.000 I mean, it really does feel like a different planet.

01:28:22.000 Isn't the mountain from there? 0.98

01:28:24.000 The fucking guy who plays the mountain, that enormous strongman, he's like the world's strongest man. 0.99

01:28:28.000 The mountain in Game of Thrones, that guy who smooshed that dude's head with his thumbs. 1.00

01:28:31.000 Yes, yes.

01:28:32.000 Spoiler! 0.88

01:28:33.000 You had to close your eyes.

01:28:34.000 Well, I didn't say who he was.

01:28:36.000 A lot of people got their heads smushed.

01:28:38.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:28:38.000 The head-crushing scene.

01:28:39.000 There's one really...

01:28:40.000 Yeah, it's an awesome scene.

01:28:42.000 That's a good scene.

01:28:42.000 But it's one of those...

01:28:43.000 Whoa.

01:28:44.000 That's one of the things I really love about television now.

01:28:47.000 It's like... 1.00

01:28:49.000 People just fucking die. 1.00

01:28:50.000 Like, people that you really like, they die. 1.00

01:28:53.000 You know?

01:28:54.000 I mean, sometimes it's great.

01:28:56.000 Sometimes it's like when they kill Glenn with a baseball bat on Walking Dead. 0.99

01:28:59.000 I was like, get the fuck out of here. 1.00

01:29:00.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

01:29:00.000 His eyes bulging out of his skull. 1.00

01:29:02.000 I ain't watching that show anymore.

01:29:03.000 I stopped watching that show.

01:29:04.000 I stopped too.

01:29:04.000 I can't.

01:29:05.000 Right there.

01:29:05.000 That's where I cut it off.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:06.000 It's like, this isn't a zombie show anymore.

01:29:09.000 It's a torture show.

01:29:10.000 You're just beating people. 0.99

01:29:10.000 It really is torture porn. 0.99

01:29:11.000 And the zombies are inconsequential. 0.98

01:29:13.000 Yep.

01:29:14.000 All of a sudden, they're not scary.

01:29:15.000 Mm-hmm.

01:29:15.000 Like, you just push them away and keep running.

01:29:17.000 And it's seven episodes of just dialogue of them walking around, and it's like, dude, just compact this.

01:29:23.000 Well, Rogue One, I loved the new Star Wars movie, but everyone dies!

01:29:27.000 Sorry, spoiler alert.

01:29:28.000 Spoiler alert.

01:29:28.000 You spoiled the fuck out of it.

01:29:30.000 God damn it, woman. 1.00

01:29:31.000 I didn't see it. 1.00

01:29:35.000 Okay.

01:29:35.000 I didn't see it.

01:29:36.000 I want to see it.

01:29:37.000 I just didn't.

01:29:38.000 It's amazing.

01:29:39.000 I'll tell you what I'm holding my breath for.

01:29:41.000 Every day in my life is downtime until the new Alien movie comes out.

01:29:45.000 There's going to be a new Alien?

01:29:46.000 Alien, May 19th.

01:29:48.000 Jesus Christ, the ad looks awesome.

01:29:50.000 No way.

01:29:50.000 Have you seen the ad for it?

01:29:51.000 No.

01:29:51.000 Oh, let's play the trailer.

01:29:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:29:53.000 Let's play the trailer, Jamie.

01:29:54.000 Have you seen The Arrival?

01:29:55.000 Can you play the trailer?

01:29:56.000 They're not going to get mad at us, will they?

01:29:57.000 Yeah, they'll take it off.

01:29:58.000 They'll take it off?

01:29:58.000 Oh, really?

01:29:59.000 Yeah.

01:29:59.000 We'll play it afterwards.

01:30:01.000 It's so weird.

01:30:02.000 You know, I had a conversation with somebody about this.

01:30:05.000 If you guys react to it, we might be able to play it.

01:30:08.000 So would we talk while it's going on?

01:30:09.000 We have to do like Mystery Science.

01:30:10.000 If you're watching it, I can PNP you.

01:30:13.000 Okay. 1.00

01:30:14.000 But listen, folks, we're just trying to sell your goddamn movie. 0.99

01:30:18.000 I'm a huge fan of those movies. 0.99

01:30:20.000 We love you.

01:30:20.000 And I think this is...

01:30:22.000 It's not going to be Ridley Scott, is it?

01:30:24.000 Ridley Scott.

01:30:24.000 I think it is, right?

01:30:25.000 I think this is Ridley Scott Returns.

01:30:28.000 She should.

01:30:29.000 I know.

01:30:29.000 I think it's a prequel.

01:30:31.000 Cool, cool.

01:30:31.000 I think she isn't around.

01:30:32.000 I think that's the idea.

01:30:34.000 But that was, Prometheus was a prequel too, right?

01:30:37.000 I never, I don't understand what the hell.

01:30:39.000 It wasn't good.

01:30:40.000 No.

01:30:40.000 It was too CGI'd.

01:30:41.000 I was like, that's not a real dude.

01:30:43.000 Exactly.

01:30:44.000 That's why Star Wars is so good, because they finally bring back the costumes and stuff.

01:30:48.000 No, no, it's great!

01:30:48.000 It's the costumes.

01:30:49.000 It's not a lot of CGI. It's not a lot of CGI. Well, people got mad at Star Wars.

01:30:54.000 Oh, yeah, a woman and a black guy? 0.61

01:30:56.000 What else? 1.00

01:30:57.000 You gonna have a fucking Chinese transgender person? 1.00

01:31:00.000 Here it is. 1.00

01:31:02.000 Here's the official trailer.

01:31:03.000 Go full screen.

01:31:03.000 I'm just happy Jar Jar Binks is out of the picture.

01:31:06.000 This looks so good.

01:31:07.000 Oh, what? 0.98

01:31:09.000 You know what's fucked up? 0.98

01:31:10.000 The old school alien from the original one, the computers look so clunky. 0.98

01:31:16.000 I know.

01:31:17.000 Like what they thought we were going to have for computers.

01:31:19.000 And what's his face is here?

01:31:21.000 Danny McBride.

01:31:22.000 Yeah, Danny McBride.

01:31:23.000 Wow, look at how Kenny Powers is in there.

01:31:26.000 Yeah, Kenny Powers is in it.

01:31:27.000 That's so great.

01:31:28.000 I've never seen him play a serious role. 0.86

01:31:30.000 Yeah, this looks so fucking badass. 0.74

01:31:32.000 Wow, did they film this in Iceland? 0.97

01:31:34.000 This is nuts.

01:31:35.000 Yeah, I don't know where they filmed it. 1.00

01:31:37.000 They film a lot of shit in New Zealand. 1.00

01:31:39.000 Yep. 1.00

01:31:40.000 That's where they did The Hobbit.

01:31:41.000 New Zealand is one place that I really need to go.

01:31:44.000 I keep hearing how amazing it is.

01:31:46.000 But, yeah, this...

01:31:49.000 Nothing.

01:31:52.000 No birds.

01:31:54.000 No animals.

01:31:56.000 It's like Iceland.

01:31:57.000 Nothing. 1.00

01:31:57.000 Well, bitch, that's Montana. 1.00

01:31:59.000 Okay? 1.00

01:31:59.000 Don't be so fucking willing to see animals on a planet where you don't know what can eat you. 1.00

01:32:04.000 Oh, what? 1.00

01:32:05.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:32:05.000 Oh, damn. 1.00

01:32:07.000 Dude, this is so cool. 1.00

01:32:09.000 So it's like a planet where the aliens are?

01:32:11.000 I don't know.

01:32:12.000 I don't know what happened.

01:32:13.000 I think they're going to repopulate a planet.

01:32:14.000 Oh, wow.

01:32:15.000 Like, these are the team of people that are going to go save humans or something like that.

01:32:19.000 Imagine you get paid to repopulate a planet. 1.00

01:32:21.000 Sorry, we have to fuck. 1.00

01:32:22.000 We have to fuck for the future. 1.00

01:32:24.000 They don't know. 1.00

01:32:25.000 Oh, man, this looks really good. 1.00

01:32:26.000 Don't get too close, stupid. 1.00

01:32:27.000 Have you not seen... 1.00

01:32:31.000 It's going down!

01:32:32.000 Haven't you seen Alien? 1.00

01:32:33.000 These motherfuckers haven't seen nothing. 0.99

01:32:35.000 But I just love when they do a movie like this and now they have these modern special effects. 1.00

01:32:42.000 Oh, totally.

01:32:42.000 But they abuse those things sometimes.

01:32:44.000 One of the coolest things about the original Alien was like you saw very little of it.

01:32:49.000 Exactly.

01:32:49.000 That's the problem with all movies and TV now is you just see way too much.

01:32:54.000 There's no buildup.

01:32:56.000 Well, it's also like real fear comes from the unknown.

01:33:00.000 Exactly.

01:33:00.000 You know, and glimpses.

01:33:02.000 Like American Werewolf in London.

01:33:04.000 You only saw it a couple of times.

01:33:05.000 Totally.

01:33:05.000 Like flashes.

01:33:06.000 Totally.

01:33:07.000 And it was awesome.

01:33:08.000 There was this Stephen King movie called The Langoliers.

01:33:12.000 Yeah.

01:33:13.000 But I was so...

01:33:14.000 I was terrified.

01:33:15.000 I can't remember the last time I was watching a movie that I was so scared and terrified.

01:33:18.000 And then at the very end, CGI must have just come out.

01:33:21.000 They show the Langelier and it's like...

01:33:23.000 It looks just like this.

01:33:24.000 It's like a black spot on the screen.

01:33:28.000 You're like, what the hell is this?

01:33:29.000 This is the alien?

01:33:31.000 That book is great.

01:33:32.000 Oh, it's so good.

01:33:33.000 Show them what the actual...

01:33:34.000 See them?

01:33:35.000 See the little guys up there?

01:33:36.000 There they are!

01:33:38.000 Wow.

01:33:38.000 That's what it looks like.

01:33:39.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

01:33:40.000 Isn't that sad? 1.00

01:33:41.000 Yeah.

01:33:42.000 And it was so creepy the whole time. 1.00

01:33:44.000 Could you imagine if you got killed by something that looked really stupid? 1.00

01:33:46.000 Like you got killed by a minion? 1.00

01:33:47.000 It'd be so sad. 0.99

01:33:48.000 Look at it!

01:33:49.000 Did they really fly through the air like that?

01:33:51.000 That can't be real.

01:33:52.000 Yes!

01:33:53.000 It was real!

01:33:54.000 Wasn't that a made-for-TV movie, though?

01:33:55.000 Yes.

01:33:56.000 Yeah, that's probably why.

01:33:56.000 They didn't have any money.

01:33:57.000 And plus, people that watch TV, they feel like are stupid. 0.99

01:33:59.000 It would've been better to have just, like, little puppets on a string, though. 1.00

01:34:02.000 Well, that would suck, like, if Minions really killed you. 0.87

01:34:05.000 Like, from Despicable Me.

01:34:06.000 The Minions are the most, like, forced cultural thing I've ever seen.

01:34:10.000 The Minion ad campaign here.

01:34:12.000 It's because you don't have kids.

01:34:13.000 Was it really popular with kids?

01:34:14.000 Kids love it.

01:34:15.000 My kids love Minions.

01:34:16.000 Okay, that makes sense.

01:34:17.000 They love it.

01:34:18.000 I thought it was just some weird forced-on-adults thing.

01:34:20.000 Like, you're gonna love Minions! 1.00

01:34:22.000 There's a lot of shit that kids fucking love. 1.00

01:34:25.000 And then, like, you get it. 1.00

01:34:26.000 Oh, It.

01:34:27.000 That's right.

01:34:27.000 It's coming out soon.

01:34:29.000 No way!

01:34:30.000 Yes, they redid It.

01:34:31.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 Ooh.

01:34:33.000 You haven't seen it?

01:34:33.000 I just tried to watch it, and it was like six hours.

01:34:37.000 Is that what he looks like, Mark?

01:34:38.000 I think this is an artist's drawing.

01:34:40.000 Oh, an artist one.

01:34:41.000 But the new one, they've shown it.

01:34:42.000 It looks way creepier than the new It.

01:34:44.000 How could it look creepier than the original one?

01:34:46.000 It used to be the Rocky Horror Picture Show guy, right? 0.99

01:34:48.000 Wasn't it Tim, what the fuck's his name? 0.98

01:34:50.000 Was it? 0.99

01:34:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:52.000 The one from the TV series. 0.78

01:34:54.000 Well, that clown was extremely scary. 0.65

01:34:57.000 Oh, so that is that guy. 0.99

01:34:58.000 But there's some creepy images of it, like where you see his teeth and shit. 0.96

01:35:02.000 But, yeah, what's his face from Rocky Horror? 0.99

01:35:05.000 What the hell's his name?

01:35:06.000 Yeah, Tim...

01:35:06.000 No.

01:35:08.000 No.

01:35:11.000 I've never seen Rocky Horror Picture Show.

01:35:13.000 It's terrible.

01:35:14.000 It's one of those, yeah.

01:35:15.000 Let's do the time warp again!

01:35:19.000 Tim Curry, Tim Curry.

01:35:20.000 Tim Curry, yeah.

01:35:21.000 Tim Curry was the original it. 0.98

01:35:23.000 He was the original clown.

01:35:25.000 That's another great book. 0.99

01:35:26.000 See, I feel like Stephen King's movies all suck. 0.93

01:35:30.000 The made-for-TV ones, for sure. 0.99

01:35:31.000 Not that they suck.

01:35:32.000 I love Stephen King.

01:35:33.000 But I mean, his books are so good that the books just don't...

01:35:38.000 You just can't turn it into a movie. 0.61

01:35:41.000 Like Pet Sematary was so goddamn creepy as a book. 0.76

01:35:46.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.93

01:35:46.000 And then you see the movie like, oh, the cat's gonna kill me. 0.93

01:35:48.000 I'll fucking kill that cat. 1.00

01:35:49.000 Let me get ahold of that cat. 1.00

01:35:51.000 I don't care if it's a demon cat. 1.00

01:35:52.000 I'm gonna grab it by his stupid little head. 1.00

01:35:54.000 I'm really excited for Dark Tower, though. 1.00

01:35:55.000 Stand By Me and Shawshank are both Stephen King stories.

01:35:56.000 Really?

01:35:57.000 Yeah.

01:35:57.000 Oh, cool.

01:35:58.000 But Stand By Me was not superstitious or supernatural.

01:36:03.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:36:05.000 I think Green Mile as well, there was a little bit of supernatural shit with Michael Clarke Duncan.

01:36:10.000 But the thing is, when you turn his movies into something you have to look at, like, Christine they kind of pulled off. 0.86

01:36:16.000 Christine they absolutely pulled off.

01:36:17.000 Because it was just a car.

01:36:18.000 Yeah.

01:36:18.000 But it was even creepier in the book, because you get more, you know?

01:36:22.000 You get more insight into the guy who created the car, who sold him the car.

01:36:26.000 Yeah, he's super descriptive with his language, and it really paints a picture that you can never do justice when you're watching it.

01:36:33.000 Well, I'm excited for the Dark Tower series, though.

01:36:35.000 The Shining!

01:36:36.000 But do you know that The Shining was very different than the book?

01:36:39.000 I read the book.

01:36:39.000 Really?

01:36:40.000 The book's very different.

01:36:41.000 And he redid the movie with his blessing, and they used the guy from Wings.

01:36:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:36:47.000 Remember that?

01:36:48.000 It was a made-for-TV movie and he was in it.

01:36:50.000 I think he was the bartender.

01:36:51.000 It was bad. 0.99

01:36:52.000 But Kubrick had a lot of weird shit in The Shining. 0.99

01:36:56.000 There's a lot of references to the Apollo moon landings and all this hidden shit in there. 0.99

01:37:00.000 Yes! 0.97

01:37:01.000 Remember that hoax story that said that he had proven that the moon landing was false or whatever? 0.97

01:37:06.000 Well, he definitely did a bunch of shit in The Shining to pay homage to the Apollo moon missions in some sort of a weird way. 0.74

01:37:15.000 Like, there was, I forget, there was a bunch of different things that were there. 0.99

01:37:20.000 First of all, the little boy wore a rocket.

01:37:22.000 He wore, like, an Apollo rocket sweater.

01:37:25.000 And then there was the number for one of the rooms that was the exact distance between the Earth and the moon.

01:37:32.000 Wow.

01:37:33.000 There's a whole documentary that goes over in depth the connections that Kubrick made between the Shining and the Apollo moon missions.

01:37:40.000 That's awesome. 0.86

01:37:41.000 It's fucking pretty intense stuff. 0.76

01:37:42.000 That's really awesome. 0.97

01:37:43.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 And it was a different book, though.

01:37:46.000 The book was a slow build before Jack gets crazy.

01:37:51.000 And then in the movie, Jack Nicholson was like crazy already.

01:37:55.000 He was like a little crazy to begin with.

01:37:57.000 And then it just got crazier and crazier. 0.93

01:37:59.000 Whereas in the book, he slowly became more and more nutty.

01:38:04.000 And you bought into it.

01:38:06.000 You saw him getting taken by this...

01:38:10.000 Crazy hotel.

01:38:11.000 And so he didn't like Kubrick's interpretation of the book.

01:38:14.000 No, he didn't like it.

01:38:14.000 He didn't like it.

01:38:16.000 Apparently.

01:38:16.000 Which is too bad.

01:38:17.000 Because you just can't make a book into a movie.

01:38:22.000 I guess you can, but they're just not as good.

01:38:26.000 I hate people that say that, though.

01:38:28.000 I'm saying it, and I hate people that say that.

01:38:30.000 The book is better.

01:38:32.000 We don't read anymore, Joe.

01:38:33.000 Come on.

01:38:33.000 You're acting like people read.

01:38:34.000 I hardly read anymore.

01:38:36.000 I'm gonna be honest with you.

01:38:37.000 I listen to books on tape.

01:38:38.000 I hardly sit down and read them.

01:38:40.000 I still read them a little bit, but I enjoy having someone read for me.

01:38:45.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

01:38:46.000 But I feel like a fraud!

01:38:48.000 Like when I say, if I tell someone I read a book, I have to read some of the book to say I read the book.

01:38:54.000 But I'll read part of it and they'll go book on tape and I'll go, I read that book.

01:38:57.000 But I didn't really read it.

01:38:59.000 I only read like three chapters and the other 11 I had some actor read. 1.00

01:39:06.000 But if you tell somebody, yeah, I listen to a lot of books on tape, you're like, oh, you fucking moron. 1.00

01:39:11.000 No one's tried to have you write a book yet? 1.00

01:39:14.000 Yeah, I had a book deal and it was so brutal talking to the editor was so brutal I gave them their money back.

01:39:20.000 What?

01:39:21.000 What was the book about?

01:39:23.000 Just a short bunch of essays on things, but they wanted this is what they asked me to do They asked me to transcribe my stand-up once they were like they read some of my writing because I used to do a lot of blogs and I used to put up a lot of blogs on my website and I put them on Online and some other venues.

01:39:40.000 And they were like, hey, we want to give you a book deal and we'll just write whatever you want to watch.

01:39:44.000 Okay, yeah.

01:39:45.000 And then once you get some money from them, then it's like, we want you to write what we want you to write.

01:39:50.000 And then they wanted me to write.

01:39:51.000 One of the thoughts was they wanted me to take my stand-up and transcribe it.

01:39:55.000 I go, that's going to be terrible.

01:39:57.000 It got so bizarre.

01:39:57.000 But they were like, but George Carlin did it.

01:39:59.000 But Jerry Seinfeld did it.

01:40:00.000 I'm like, no, they took a check.

01:40:03.000 Maybe they wanted the money.

01:40:04.000 I don't know.

01:40:05.000 Maybe George had taxes he had to pay.

01:40:06.000 I don't know.

01:40:07.000 I'm not doing that.

01:40:08.000 And so they said, okay, well, we want you to think that you want to get a laugh, like on stage, like every 30 seconds.

01:40:14.000 And I was like, well, I'm going to write about some stuff that I don't even think is funny.

01:40:18.000 No one does that when they're reading a book laughs every 30 seconds. 0.53

01:40:20.000 So I sent them a chapter and they edited it and changed a bunch of shit like change the tone of it and I like We're done. 0.96

01:40:29.000 Yeah, I called my manager. 0.92

01:40:30.000 I go tell them we're giving the money back and they like a fucking serious Yeah, I'm giving them their money back.

01:40:34.000 I don't want to do it That's crazy that they would actually change like the language of what you how you would even write I'm never gonna do it again That way.

01:40:42.000 If I do do it again, if I do write a book, I'm going to write a book, and then I'm going to sell the book, or I'm going to put the book online if nobody wants to buy it.

01:40:49.000 If nobody wants to buy it and turn it into a book, I'm going to go, okay, this is the book. 0.90

01:40:54.000 You can think it sucks, but at least it sucks, and it came from my head and my fingers. 0.96

01:40:59.000 Like, I'm going to write it, I'm going to think it. 0.99

01:41:01.000 You can totally think it sucks, and you don't want it.

01:41:05.000 The reality of things is, when someone creates something, it's going to resonate with a certain amount of people, and other people are going to hate it. 0.99

01:41:12.000 There's fucking music that I think is terrible, and people love it. 0.98

01:41:16.000 They wait in line. 1.00

01:41:17.000 They go to see these concerts that you would have to strap me to a chair and pry my eyes open like clockwork orange for me to sit there and watch it.

01:41:25.000 And they can't wait.

01:41:26.000 They can't wait.

01:41:27.000 So tastes and people's desires vary.

01:41:32.000 But as soon as someone tries to enforce their ideas of how you should express yourself...

01:41:38.000 To me, I thought of it as very similar to stand-up in the way that if my stand-up...

01:41:44.000 If somebody came along and was some publicist that I didn't even know, not even a friend, and wanted to edit my stand-up... 0.93

01:41:51.000 You can think my stand-up sucks. 0.97

01:41:53.000 You can not like it. 0.90

01:41:54.000 But as long as I'm actually paying attention to it, as long as I'm actually sitting there and I'm actually going over it and editing it and thinking about it myself and practicing it on stage, I don't want your opinion.

01:42:06.000 I don't want your input.

01:42:07.000 You either like it or you don't like it.

01:42:09.000 Right, exactly.

01:42:09.000 But it's me.

01:42:10.000 Right. 1.00

01:42:10.000 If the book came out and it sucked, then people would be like, you suck! 1.00

01:42:14.000 You're like, no, it actually isn't me, it's this ghostwriter and he sucks! 0.99

01:42:18.000 Well, I think a movie has to be a collaboration, right? 0.92

01:42:20.000 Like, if you're doing a movie, you have actors, you have writers, you have directors, you have producers, you have the people that are giving you the money. 0.63

01:42:28.000 That's got to be a goddamn nightmare, because there's a lot of different cooks in that kitchen. 1.00

01:42:33.000 But that makes sense to me, that you have to collaborate with these people. 0.98

01:42:36.000 Say if you're playing some chick in some movie, and you have this idea of how it's supposed to be, and that's how you audition.

01:42:44.000 But then you get on set, and the director's like, Abby, what I want you to do is play a Chinese lady in the 1500s.

01:42:51.000 And you're like, what?

01:42:53.000 You'd be like, that's not what I got hired to do. 0.99

01:42:55.000 What the fuck is this? 0.99

01:42:56.000 Then you have this chaotic sort of... 1.00

01:43:02.000 It's a lot of nonsense.

01:43:05.000 One of the pure things about writing, whether it's writing stand-up or anything, it's like, here's the world, and here's my vision.

01:43:13.000 Here's the world through my eyes and my fingers. 0.95

01:43:16.000 As soon as you allow someone to start fucking with that, I just think... 0.99

01:43:21.000 It's a recipe for disaster. 0.99

01:43:22.000 So my experience wasn't good.

01:43:24.000 Not that you can't have a good experience writing a book.

01:43:26.000 I mean, maybe other people have, but everybody that I've talked to that wrote a book, they told me it was terrible.

01:43:33.000 Everybody I know that wrote a book.

01:43:34.000 I have to talk to Whitney about it.

01:43:35.000 She didn't have a bad experience.

01:43:38.000 Get there.

01:43:39.000 Go use that restroom, Abby Martin. 1.00

01:43:42.000 Abby Martin's my favorite hardcore lefty, I think. 1.00

01:43:45.000 She can't figure out where the door is.

01:43:49.000 She's my favorite hardcore lefty. 1.00

01:43:50.000 She's so rabid. 1.00

01:43:52.000 I want to get her in a room with Sam Harris, though, because she hates Sam Harris, and she thinks Sam Harris wants to fucking bomb every country where brown people live. 1.00

01:44:01.000 She just takes things... 0.99

01:44:02.000 You see how she ramps up?

01:44:04.000 Like, she wants to take things so far.

01:44:06.000 Like, you can't even talk to her about, like, what social justice warriors do.

01:44:11.000 She's like, she's not even thinking about it.

01:44:13.000 She's just like, yeah, but why are they paying attention to that while Trump's doing this and they're ready to bomb North Korea and blah blah blah.

01:44:18.000 Yeah, but that's still an issue.

01:44:20.000 It's still a something.

01:44:22.000 There's a thing going on.

01:44:24.000 Yeah, it's hard to pick your thing.

01:44:26.000 You gotta pick one.

01:44:28.000 Like you said, so much info going on now, you get distracted from one, especially if you have a tinge of ADD. I do.

01:44:34.000 Don't you?

01:44:34.000 Yeah, well, for sure.

01:44:35.000 Who doesn't?

01:44:36.000 I don't trust people who don't have ADD. You know?

01:44:39.000 If, like, you can concentrate all the time, I feel like one of those people that can really sit down and concentrate totally.

01:44:44.000 How do you pee that quick?

01:44:45.000 That's insane.

01:44:46.000 What, you open it up like a bucket?

01:44:48.000 How the hell is that even possible?

01:44:51.000 That doesn't even make sense with me.

01:44:54.000 What are you saying, Jamie?

01:44:54.000 Did you see the lambs being born outside of a womb?

01:44:57.000 Did you see that story going around today?

01:44:59.000 That's the apocalypse.

01:45:00.000 Silence of the lambs.

01:45:01.000 It's not like they weren't made in there, but it's being tested on...

01:45:06.000 I think it was sheep, like premature births.

01:45:09.000 So after, instead of a 37-week period, if it was like 28 weeks, they could put it in the sack and it was still growing.

01:45:17.000 That's so crazy.

01:45:19.000 Hair, its eyes opened up.

01:45:20.000 What?

01:45:20.000 I'll show you the story real quick.

01:45:22.000 Do you see that blowjob machine? 0.99

01:45:24.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:45:25.000 This new blowjob robot that they invented just for blowjobs? 0.99

01:45:28.000 A new one better than the lip thing that you... 0.99

01:45:31.000 What was it called?

01:45:32.000 Fleshlight?

01:45:32.000 Yeah, the fleshlight.

01:45:33.000 You have to actually move that thing around.

01:45:34.000 Whoa, look at this.

01:45:35.000 Oh, my God.

01:45:37.000 Artificial womb successfully grew baby sheep and humans could be next. 0.99

01:45:41.000 Oh, my God.

01:45:42.000 We're looking at this plastic bag where this baby sheep is inside a plastic bag.

01:45:47.000 Lamb is growing in an artificial womb for weeks.

01:45:50.000 Oh, Christ.

01:45:51.000 What are we doing?

01:45:52.000 What is going on?

01:45:53.000 This really seems like the next step.

01:45:54.000 They'll definitely try making one in the bag next.

01:45:57.000 Look, in China, they probably already have a person that they've made.

01:46:00.000 This is nuts.

01:46:01.000 As soon as they start telling you about this, it's already happened.

01:46:04.000 They're warming you up.

01:46:05.000 This has happened like 20 years ago now, and they're just showing us now.

01:46:08.000 That is sick. 0.97

01:46:10.000 Ivanka Trump was probably born and raised in a bag. 0.97

01:46:14.000 That's how we know Chaney's, why Chaney's still alive.

01:46:17.000 That's why she's so pretty. 0.98

01:46:19.000 Yeah, right?

01:46:19.000 I know, look at the other two sons.

01:46:25.000 She came out perfect.

01:46:26.000 They were definitely grown in bags.

01:46:28.000 Well, he knows how to cook up a girl. 0.99

01:46:29.000 Yeah, right?

01:46:30.000 Like, the genes work good on girls. 1.00

01:46:33.000 They work good on her, that's for damn sure. 1.00

01:46:34.000 She's not as fuck. 1.00

01:46:36.000 Her husband is gross. 1.00

01:46:38.000 He's so odd. 0.99

01:46:39.000 The video of him in Iraq, or Afghanistan, rather.

01:46:42.000 Oh my god, with the flak jacket on!

01:46:43.000 Over that preppy jacket.

01:46:45.000 And he's just like walking around. 0.99

01:46:45.000 It's like GQ, like endless war fucking style. 0.99

01:46:50.000 Weird. 0.99

01:46:50.000 But just weird. 0.99

01:46:51.000 Sick.

01:46:51.000 Yeah, sick.

01:46:52.000 Like, why didn't you give him some military clothes? 1.00

01:46:54.000 He looks like a complete douchebag. 0.99

01:46:56.000 He looks like he's never worked a goddamn day in his life. 1.00

01:46:59.000 A prep school kid with a vest on. 0.99

01:47:01.000 Yep.

01:47:01.000 Just shiny, soft hands.

01:47:03.000 Why send him that?

01:47:04.000 Like J. Crew.

01:47:05.000 Yeah, his hands probably tear on sand.

01:47:07.000 They probably just rip open and start bleeding.

01:47:10.000 They're all irritated just being like...

01:47:12.000 Ew, it's on these working people. 1.00

01:47:14.000 My lotion!

01:47:15.000 When can I come home, Papa?

01:47:17.000 Look at him there.

01:47:18.000 What a complete...

01:47:20.000 Look, Kush. 0.76

01:47:21.000 What is that?

01:47:22.000 Get that Afghani Kush, man. 1.00

01:47:24.000 Yeah.

01:47:25.000 They don't even have good weed.

01:47:27.000 People that give you the Afghani weed, they hate you.

01:47:29.000 They got the opium, though.

01:47:29.000 Ooh, they do have the opium.

01:47:30.000 That is one of the most open secrets.

01:47:35.000 Absolutely.

01:47:36.000 And going back to why are we in Afghanistan?

01:47:38.000 Yeah.

01:47:38.000 Come on.

01:47:39.000 Yeah.

01:47:40.000 Well, why were we in Vietnam?

01:47:41.000 Exactly.

01:47:42.000 Come on.

01:47:44.000 Nicaragua.

01:47:44.000 Come on.

01:47:45.000 Come on.

01:47:45.000 But it was one of the most open, like, the information is readily available.

01:47:50.000 Totally.

01:47:50.000 The amount of heroin production that ramped up since we invaded Afghanistan.

01:47:56.000 It's insane.

01:47:57.000 90%.

01:47:57.000 And opium latex is needed for pharmaceuticals.

01:48:00.000 It just goes on and on and on.

01:48:02.000 It's completely obvious and it's going to come out soon.

01:48:04.000 I think that that's really what's happening there.

01:48:06.000 You think so?

01:48:07.000 Absolutely.

01:48:07.000 How's it going to come out now?

01:48:08.000 It's 15 years later.

01:48:10.000 Good question.

01:48:10.000 I mean, it came out...

01:48:11.000 Yeah, when did the Sandinista, like, when did all the cocaine trafficking stuff come out?

01:48:16.000 We need an Oliver North.

01:48:17.000 Yes.

01:48:17.000 And we need a Freeway Ricky.

01:48:19.000 And a Mike Rupert.

01:48:19.000 We need a Mike Rupert.

01:48:21.000 Totally.

01:48:22.000 Poor guy.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, but a tortured soul.

01:48:25.000 It got to him.

01:48:26.000 He was such a tortured soul.

01:48:28.000 I had him on a couple of times.

01:48:29.000 That guy gave me mushrooms.

01:48:31.000 Nice.

01:48:32.000 He came on my podcast, brought me a giant bag of mushrooms.

01:48:36.000 Good man.

01:48:37.000 Great guy.

01:48:38.000 Such a good guy.

01:48:38.000 I loved him.

01:48:39.000 I didn't agree with him.

01:48:40.000 I didn't agree with him because he was so crazy about so many different things.

01:48:44.000 About peak oil and stuff?

01:48:44.000 Yeah, like that whole collapse documentary that they did where they interviewed him and he's just sitting there smoking cigarettes talking about the end is near.

01:48:51.000 I'm like, Jesus, dude.

01:48:52.000 Meanwhile, all these years later, everything's fine.

01:48:55.000 Like, he wasn't right about peak oil and a lot of the other things.

01:48:59.000 And he was always inclined to go towards doom and gloom.

01:49:02.000 But I think...

01:49:04.000 That movie, that documentary, Collapse, and his worldview, a lot of it was based on how he thought of things, because he was really depressed.

01:49:12.000 Exactly, it was a reflection, just kind of an externalization of his own depression.

01:49:16.000 Yeah, and he wound up offing himself.

01:49:18.000 So horrible.

01:49:19.000 That was one of the saddest suicides of people that I knew.

01:49:22.000 When I knew that he killed himself because he sent me some emails and we talked back and forth and he was definitely down in the dumps.

01:49:31.000 And I always felt like, God, man, that guy just needs better people around him and he just needs more positivity.

01:49:38.000 But he was so engrossed and entrenched in corruption and greed and horror.

01:49:44.000 Thank God to him so much. 0.99

01:49:46.000 But I'll never forget that fucking speech when he stood in front of, like, what was that? 0.99

01:49:50.000 LAPD, right? 1.00

01:49:51.000 Yes.

01:49:51.000 Well, he was an LAP narcotics officer, and he stood in front of that CIA guy, and I forget what the meeting was about, and he was talking about how he had witnessed CIA agents selling narcotics,

01:50:06.000 and that they had been doing it forever, and that he had been stopped from prosecuting and arresting them, and everybody went crazy.

01:50:13.000 It was nuts.

01:50:14.000 It was nuts.

01:50:15.000 And then he exposed the whole insider trading 9-11 stuff and peak oil.

01:50:21.000 And yeah, I mean, he was just lambasted as a conspiracy theorist toward the end of his life.

01:50:25.000 And it was really sad because he's done so many amazing things.

01:50:28.000 Yeah, that was 1996. Unbelievable.

01:50:31.000 Town meeting in Los Angeles on allegations to the CIA. And this is, by the way, folks, pre-internet.

01:50:36.000 And confronting the CIA director. 0.97

01:50:38.000 And with balls. 0.99

01:50:39.000 Ballsy, man. 0.99

01:50:40.000 With balls. 0.97

01:50:41.000 The way he did it. 0.99

01:50:42.000 I mean, he did it, like, clearly and loudly and articulately.

01:50:46.000 Like, play it.

01:50:47.000 Just play it so people who haven't seen it.

01:50:49.000 Pour one out for my group.

01:50:50.000 Yeah, pour it.

01:50:52.000 Oh, back it up a little bit.

01:50:53.000 Back it up a little bit.

01:50:55.000 I will tell you, Director Deutch, as a former Los Angeles police narcotics detective, that the agency has dealt drugs throughout this country for a long time.

01:51:05.000 Yeah!

01:51:09.000 Yeah!

01:51:15.000 He's so good.

01:51:16.000 All right.

01:51:18.000 All right.

01:51:20.000 All right.

01:51:21.000 Obviously, that is an answer for a lot of you.

01:51:24.000 Now, can you please?

01:51:25.000 I refer...

01:51:26.000 All right.

01:51:26.000 Now, can you please?

01:51:28.000 I refer direct...

01:51:29.000 Wait.

01:51:29.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:51:32.000 Wait a minute.

01:51:36.000 96. C-SPAN. Nothing happened on C-SPAN. C-SPAN was so boring.

01:51:43.000 Wait a minute here.

01:51:45.000 Wait a minute.

01:51:47.000 If you don't like what's going on here, please leave now.

01:51:53.000 Whoa, I haven't seen actually this whole clip.

01:51:55.000 Yeah, she was trying to control it.

01:51:57.000 People are going crazy.

01:51:58.000 I mean, this was in South Central.

01:51:59.000 Will you please take your seats?

01:52:01.000 I will come back to you as we roll back across to the center section.

01:52:09.000 Director Deutsch, I will refer you to three specific agency operations known as Amadeus, Pegasus, and Watchtower.

01:52:16.000 I have Watchtower documents heavily redacted by the agency.

01:52:20.000 I was personally exposed to CIA operations and recruited by CIA personnel who attempted to recruit me in the late 70s to become involved in protecting agency drug operations in this country.

01:52:31.000 I have been trying to get this out for 18 years, and I have the evidence.

01:52:35.000 My question for you is very specific, sir.

01:52:37.000 If in the course of the IG's investigations, and Fred Hitz's work, you come across evidence of severely criminal activity, and it's classified, will you use that classification to hide the criminal activity, or will you tell the American people the truth? 0.99

01:52:53.000 Oh shit! 1.00

01:52:55.000 Oh shit! 1.00

01:53:01.000 Done. 1.00

01:53:04.000 All right, everyone.

01:53:05.000 Yeah, she's not the best at keeping this group together, but that was an intense moment.

01:53:10.000 That's amazing, man.

01:53:10.000 That opened up a lot of people's eyes.

01:53:12.000 Like, that was a very, very important moment.

01:53:13.000 It was.

01:53:14.000 Where people realized, like, wait a minute, is this guy right?

01:53:17.000 And then it turns out he was.

01:53:19.000 I mean, they really did sell drugs to fund these black ops.

01:53:24.000 I mean, that's how they, that's the whole Oliver North, that's the connection between Freeway Ricky, who I also had on the podcast.

01:53:31.000 Crack epidemic.

01:53:31.000 I mean, that's how he made millions and millions of dollars, by selling the CIA's drugs, and that's how they funded the Contras versus the Sandinistas.

01:53:40.000 Unreal. 1.00

01:53:41.000 Fucking crazy! 1.00

01:53:42.000 And you're telling me that this opium is just leaving Afghanistan without being monitored or trafficked whatsoever. 1.00

01:53:47.000 Well, they must have done a way better job of keeping it together.

01:53:51.000 Maybe they learned something.

01:53:52.000 Yeah, we gotta not have another Oliver North type deal. 1.00

01:53:56.000 That shit ain't no good. 0.98

01:53:57.000 Because I think Afghanistan is the only other country other than, if I'm not mistaken, Kenya, that is actually not only the metadata, you know, like we're collecting metadata everywhere, but that is one of two countries in the world that WikiLeaks exposed that we're actually collecting every phone call. 0.99

01:54:13.000 Every phone call is being archived and recorded from Afghanistan.

01:54:15.000 So which kind of adds to the weirdness that somehow these this giant heroin opium manufacturing like operations going on and we still can't get a grasp on where it's coming from.

01:54:27.000 Yet it really affects America. 0.89

01:54:29.000 I mean, goddamn, what is it, like more than car crashes now are pill overdoses and opiate overdoses? 0.99

01:54:35.000 It's nuts. 0.99

01:54:36.000 Yeah, it's just surpassed car accidents for the first time ever.

01:54:39.000 It's insane.

01:54:41.000 I had Dennis McKenna on recently, and he was explaining to me, yeah, it was pretty awesome.

01:54:45.000 He's such a genius, man.

01:54:47.000 He's so spooky smart.

01:54:48.000 But he was explaining to me carfentanil, which is a new form of fentanyl that's even more powerful than fentanyl.

01:54:53.000 Still schedule two though.

01:54:55.000 Yeah, some...

01:54:56.000 Marijuana schedule one. 1.00

01:54:58.000 Never killed a fucking human being ever. 1.00

01:55:00.000 What was he saying about it? 1.00

01:55:02.000 He was saying the head of a pin contains enough for you to die of an overdose.

01:55:08.000 Yeah.

01:55:09.000 What?

01:55:10.000 Why is that?

01:55:13.000 Why did we make that?

01:55:15.000 It's so crazy.

01:55:16.000 I don't know, because, like, hippos, we need to put them down.

01:55:19.000 They hurt.

01:55:20.000 They have joint aches.

01:55:21.000 These poor hippos.

01:55:23.000 We have to figure out how to weigh it.

01:55:26.000 Authorities brace for more overdoses after Maryland deaths linked to elephant sedative.

01:55:30.000 I thought we were on horse tranquilizers, now we're on elephant sedatives?

01:55:33.000 I thought we were on ketamine, and now we're on...

01:55:37.000 It's so potent, apparently.

01:55:40.000 Two overdoses, 10,000 times more potent than heroin.

01:55:43.000 5,000 times more potent than heroin.

01:55:47.000 See, this is scary.

01:55:48.000 10,000 times.

01:55:49.000 Not like 100. 10,000.

01:55:52.000 That is so insane. 0.99

01:55:54.000 This is why Philip Seymour Hoffman and so many other people die of overdoses because the drug war and these people just sell like laced heroin and shit and it's so dangerous and yeah, it's absolutely horrible. 0.99

01:56:07.000 Well, we were talking about Bourdain's show. 0.98

01:56:08.000 He had a great show on Massachusetts on his CNN show and it was about the heroin epidemic that's hit Massachusetts and many other places as well, but he kind of talked about Massachusetts.

01:56:20.000 Because they had a few people that they were referring to where these people, they got hooked on like Oxycontin, synoxycodone.

01:56:28.000 I don't know what the difference is.

01:56:29.000 Do you?

01:56:29.000 No.

01:56:30.000 And then they made it much more difficult to get.

01:56:34.000 And then as soon as these people made it much more difficult to get, you're dealing with these people that have addictions.

01:56:38.000 And so then they started doing actual heroin.

01:56:41.000 So they're taking hillbilly heroin and then they get addicted to that. 1.00

01:56:45.000 You know, if you have a back pain or you hurt yourself, they'll fucking write you a script for that shit. 1.00

01:56:50.000 Easy. 1.00

01:56:51.000 And I have a bunch of friends that got hooked. 0.99

01:56:53.000 I have a family member that just became a loser. 1.00

01:56:57.000 Was a hard-working guy, had his shit together, got hooked on those pills. 1.00

01:57:02.000 Loser now. 1.00

01:57:02.000 No one talks to him. 1.00

01:57:03.000 He's just gone. 1.00

01:57:04.000 His own fucking kids don't talk to him. 1.00

01:57:06.000 Gone. 1.00

01:57:07.000 And my buddy Brendan, he broke his nose. 1.00

01:57:10.000 They had him on that shit. 1.00

01:57:11.000 And then three months later, he's taking it every day still. 1.00

01:57:13.000 His friends had to come over his house and scoop it up out of his medicine cabinet.

01:57:18.000 Scary stuff.

01:57:19.000 Scary.

01:57:20.000 So addictive.

01:57:21.000 And then you just need it.

01:57:22.000 You just need it.

01:57:23.000 You're like, I'll get off it eventually, but right now I need it.

01:57:25.000 Oh, I had my wisdom teeth taken out when I was like 17 and I feel like I got addicted to the Vicodin that the doctor gave me.

01:57:32.000 Yeah, I loved it!

01:57:33.000 How could you not?

01:57:34.000 I never did it.

01:57:34.000 What?

01:57:35.000 Yeah.

01:57:36.000 What do you mean you never did it?

01:57:37.000 I got knee surgery once and they gave me something.

01:57:39.000 It was either Percocets or Vicodin.

01:57:41.000 I cannot remember. 1.00

01:57:41.000 But it made me so stupid. 1.00

01:57:44.000 I remember thinking I would rather be in pain. 0.99

01:57:46.000 Yeah.

01:57:47.000 I'm pretty good with pain. 0.84

01:57:49.000 But I'm not good with anything that makes me feel stupid because I feel vulnerable.

01:57:53.000 I'd rather be hurting and aware. 0.93

01:57:56.000 I'm not like a numb guy.

01:57:58.000 I don't like numbing out.

01:57:59.000 That's one of the reasons why I like pot because it makes me hyper-aware.

01:58:02.000 It makes me hyper-vigilant and really sensitive.

01:58:06.000 You can call it paranoid.

01:58:08.000 Some people call it paranoid, but I think it's more like hyper-awareness.

01:58:12.000 You know, and that hyper-awareness, you have to take into account all the variables, that you are going to die, that you are in a ball that's spinning a thousand miles an hour with a thin layer of gas.

01:58:23.000 On a flat, flat earth.

01:58:24.000 On a flat little strip of land, spinning around.

01:58:28.000 Oh wait, just stationary?

01:58:29.000 Yeah, everything's doing something around us.

01:58:32.000 It's not...

01:58:33.000 Whenever I hear the Flat Earth thing, I'm just like, don't astronauts take photos from space now where you can see the Earth behind you?

01:58:39.000 There's a live feed.

01:58:40.000 There's a live feed that you can watch from the space station.

01:58:42.000 Anybody can watch it.

01:58:43.000 It's all Manipulated Man, Soros.

01:58:44.000 No, it's CGR. It's a hologram.

01:58:47.000 Everybody that I talk to that believes in flat Earth, you show them that Japanese satellite that takes a photo, high resolution, every 10 minutes from 22,000 miles away, a full picture of the Earth.

01:58:57.000 They think it's fake.

01:58:59.000 That's all you have to say.

01:59:00.000 It's fake.

01:59:00.000 By the way, they keep saying that you can't fly over Antarctica.

01:59:03.000 Listen to me, you fucks. 1.00

01:59:05.000 You can fly over Antarctica. 1.00

01:59:06.000 They keep saying you can't fly over Antarctica.

01:59:07.000 Why does the government stop you from flying over Antarctica?

01:59:09.000 They don't.

01:59:10.000 There's regularly scheduled flights.

01:59:12.000 They fly over Antarctica. 0.99

01:59:14.000 Not only that, there's a Qantas pilot who filmed it because he was tired of that bullshit. 0.99

01:59:19.000 Mick West, the guy who runs... 0.97

01:59:21.000 I'm going to debunk this once and for all.

01:59:22.000 The man who runs Metabunk.

01:59:24.000 Metabunk is a website designed for debunking conspiracy theories with facts and science.

01:59:31.000 They have many, many pages on the flat earth on that website of debunking all the arguments against flat earth.

01:59:39.000 So he's going to come on the website and we're going to go over them.

01:59:42.000 Nice.

01:59:42.000 I'm gonna definitely tune in.

01:59:44.000 But for some reason it's still growing.

01:59:45.000 The theory is still growing!

01:59:47.000 It's because me and my three dollars a month that I take from George Soros.

01:59:51.000 It's you.

01:59:51.000 My round earth shillman.

01:59:54.000 How much do you think they could pay you if the earth was flat?

01:59:57.000 Right.

01:59:58.000 Okay.

01:59:58.000 And you knew that the earth was flat.

02:00:00.000 Could they even pay you enough to not tell people?

02:00:03.000 No.

02:00:04.000 There's no way.

02:00:05.000 There'd be no way.

02:00:06.000 Think of how many people you'd have to tell.

02:00:08.000 Or how many people you'd have to keep quiet.

02:00:09.000 It's hard enough to cover up the moon landing thing, man.

02:00:11.000 That's hard.

02:00:11.000 Let alone cover up the flat earth thing.

02:00:13.000 The moon landing at least happened in 1969, and it happened with a limited amount of people that had access to all the technology, there was no internet, they controlled the media, and we never went back.

02:00:26.000 So there's all sorts of beautiful things that connect together to form a nice juicy fat conspiracy that I love.

02:00:33.000 The moon landing conspiracies- Oh, it's a fun one, yeah.

02:00:35.000 I secretly, not even so secretly, covet that one like no other conspiracy.

02:00:40.000 I would love it if it was true.

02:00:41.000 Yeah.

02:00:42.000 There's a there's a great quote from Bill Clinton from his book my life on the moon landing and it is It's fascinating because he's talking about an old carpenter and he says the carpenter says that Them TV fellows that he didn't believe the moon landing that those TV fellows I never believe anything because they can pretty much do anything and make you believe that's real and you don't he goes back then I thought he was a crank but after eight years in the White House I was wondering if he's not ahead of his time That's in Bill Clinton's book.

02:01:11.000 Are you serious?

02:01:12.000 Yeah.

02:01:12.000 You want to hear something really queer?

02:01:13.000 Yeah.

02:01:14.000 And people are like, oh, you're going to go on about the moon landing again, bro?

02:01:16.000 I thought you gave up on that.

02:01:18.000 I will give you the most cryptic piece of information about the moon landing. 0.98

02:01:23.000 Neil Armstrong gave a speech on the 25th anniversary of the moon landings, and it is one of the most what-the-fuck speeches you'll ever hear in your life.

02:01:35.000 Because it's not a guy saying, look, we went to the moon, it was amazing, and you can't Kids are going to accomplish amazing things as well.

02:01:41.000 Pull up Neil Armstrong's cryptic speech.

02:01:44.000 Is that when he says he doesn't remember if there were stars?

02:01:46.000 No, no, no.

02:01:47.000 But that is one of the things that they did say.

02:01:48.000 It wasn't Neil Armstrong, by the way.

02:01:50.000 It was Michael Collins that said that.

02:01:52.000 Michael Collins said that he didn't recall seeing any stars.

02:01:54.000 But then later in his book, he recalled in great depth what stars looked like and how amazing they were and how incredible they were.

02:02:03.000 Just came to him later.

02:02:03.000 But meanwhile, he was in the lunar lander his whole time.

02:02:06.000 So play this.

02:02:06.000 Play this.

02:02:08.000 On the 25th anniversary of the event in 1994, Neil Armstrong made a rare public appearance and held back tears as he spoke these brief cryptic remarks before the next generation of taxpayers as they toured the White House.

02:02:22.000 Listen to this.

02:02:24.000 Today we have with us a group of students among America's best.

02:02:31.000 To you we say we've only completed a beginning.

02:02:37.000 We leave you much that is undone.

02:02:41.000 There are great ideas undiscovered.

02:02:45.000 Breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers. 0.96

02:02:55.000 What the fuck does that mean? 0.86

02:02:57.000 Is this a funny thing that happened on the way to the moon? 0.99

02:02:59.000 Yeah.

02:03:00.000 Dude, that movie is nuts.

02:03:01.000 That movie is bizarre.

02:03:01.000 At the end when they show the Apollo mission and it shows them putting the piece of paper where it makes it look like they're farther away, I was like, what the hell is this?

02:03:07.000 What were they doing?

02:03:08.000 Yeah.

02:03:08.000 I have no idea.

02:03:09.000 They're filming through a window.

02:03:11.000 They're filming the Earth through a circular window and they have the cabin of the lunar module blacked out.

02:03:17.000 They have all these things over the windows, like a set.

02:03:20.000 And they're using diffused lighting to operate the controls.

02:03:24.000 It's so crazy.

02:03:24.000 It's so strange.

02:03:25.000 It's nuts.

02:03:26.000 It's the one conspiracy that still, to this day, you go, huh.

02:03:30.000 Because there's no technological achievement from 1969. It's not easier, cheaper, and faster to reproduce today, other than the moon landing.

02:03:38.000 They went six times, seven attempts, six successful attempts.

02:03:43.000 Apollo 13, obviously, they never went.

02:03:46.000 They had that accident that made Tom Hanks make a great movie.

02:03:49.000 But that was the only time human beings had been more than 400 miles from the Earth's surface.

02:03:57.000 It's trippy that we haven't gone back.

02:03:58.000 Not only have we gone back, we never even left the magnetosphere.

02:04:02.000 We've never gone through the Van Allen radiation belts since then.

02:04:06.000 We never went into deep space, like, all the way out and back, like, around the moon.

02:04:09.000 They never even did, like, a flyby since then.

02:04:11.000 That's insane.

02:04:11.000 What do you say?

02:04:12.000 How much it costs to do that? 0.88

02:04:14.000 Shitload of money.

02:04:14.000 But so does the space shuttle.

02:04:16.000 So does the space station.

02:04:18.000 So does a lot of things.

02:04:19.000 It does cost a lot of money, and that is a good argument.

02:04:22.000 But it is weird that we still had a space program.

02:04:25.000 It's like, look, I'm not saying that we didn't go, but what I am saying is that that is why that conspiracy is so juicy.

02:04:30.000 Oh, yeah, totally.

02:04:31.000 No, it's super crazy.

02:04:32.000 And that movie, you can kind of Go through and debunk the lighting stuff, the stars, the Van Allen radiation building.

02:04:38.000 But then when it gets to that end scene, you're like, what the hell is going on?

02:04:40.000 What is going on there?

02:04:41.000 It's nuts.

02:04:42.000 It really is creepy.

02:04:43.000 I had dinner with that guy, Bart Sabrell.

02:04:45.000 He's very compelling.

02:04:46.000 He was all in, that guy, the guy who made that movie.

02:04:49.000 Funny thing happened on The Weight of the Moon.

02:04:51.000 This is when I was balls deep in the whole moon landing thing.

02:04:55.000 But there was a first one that got me.

02:04:58.000 It was when I was on news radio in the 90s.

02:05:01.000 They had a documentary on Fox called Conspiracy Theory, Did We Ever Go to the Moon?

02:05:06.000 And that one is really compelling.

02:05:08.000 And one of the reasons why it's compelling is because there's more than one occasion where they used the exact same backdrop.

02:05:15.000 They had the same backdrop, but they were supposed to be on a totally different part of the moon. 0.99

02:05:19.000 And they had the exact same background where it looks fake as fuck. 0.98

02:05:23.000 You want to see something really fake looking? 0.99

02:05:25.000 What?

02:05:25.000 Google astronauts on trampolines.

02:05:27.000 You want to see some ridiculous shit? 1.00

02:05:29.000 There's one video clip that they did. 0.99

02:05:31.000 Now here's what someone explained to me, that it's entirely likely, and this made a lot of sense, that it's entirely likely, this is during the Nixon administration, by the way, which was all going on, massive deception. 1.00

02:05:42.000 I mean, Nixon was just a fucking fraud in every way, shape, or form, and a crook, and a liar. 0.98

02:05:47.000 That it's entirely possible that they filmed a lot of stuff and that they filmed all this fake stuff and they passed it off as the real footage, but that they actually did go. 1.00

02:05:58.000 But they couldn't get footage of it. 0.78

02:06:00.000 And one of the reasons why they probably couldn't get footage of it, if that's the case, is that you can't even get that fucking film through the radar detector at the airport or the x-ray machine at the airport without it killing it, right? 0.68

02:06:12.000 I was looking some stuff up on this the other day. 0.65

02:06:13.000 The Van Allen radiation films.

02:06:18.000 The spaceship itself and all the stuff they were wearing would have protected them from most of the radiation that would have potentially harmed them or anything.

02:06:25.000 Allegedly.

02:06:26.000 And they also didn't go through it.

02:06:28.000 They went through the donut hole that's at the top.

02:06:31.000 The way the Vanilland radiation belts apparently surround the Earth, it surrounds it like a donut.

02:06:35.000 So there's an area where you can go through.

02:06:37.000 There's like hot zones or something like that.

02:06:38.000 Well, there's an area where you can go through where they're only exposed to the radiation for like an hour or something like that.

02:06:43.000 I mean, with all this deception back in the Nixon era, how creepy is it?

02:06:48.000 Starting from the beginning.

02:06:49.000 Look at this.

02:06:50.000 So this is...

02:06:52.000 I like how you uploaded this on your channel.

02:06:54.000 This is when I was balls deep.

02:06:56.000 But look at this footage.

02:06:59.000 Like, what is going on here?

02:07:00.000 Like, what is this guy doing?

02:07:02.000 So here's the thing.

02:07:03.000 The physics...

02:07:05.000 Back then, they're not the same on every mission.

02:07:09.000 Like, the way they move around is not the same on Apollo 11 as it is on Apollo 16 or whatever the last mission was.

02:07:16.000 It looks different when they're moving around.

02:07:18.000 But this one is the weirdest one.

02:07:20.000 Because here these guys are, they're in one-sixth Earth's gravity, and they're just fucking jumping around through the air, and you can't see their feet.

02:07:28.000 Like you only see their feet when they're in the air.

02:07:31.000 They're hiding behind this lunar module and they're bouncing around in a way that you never saw them bounce around before.

02:07:37.000 That's not in any other moon mission.

02:07:39.000 So I think it's entirely possible that they fake some stuff.

02:07:43.000 And that there could have been an issue with them being on the surface of the moon.

02:07:47.000 Yeah, and also being on the surface of the moon, the radiation on the surface of the moon, there's no protection on those cameras, and there's no magnetosphere, there's nothing.

02:07:56.000 Those Hasselbad cameras that they had, that they kept in the center of their chests, those weird-looking cameras that they used, there's nothing different about those.

02:08:03.000 There's nothing protective about them.

02:08:05.000 Their suit was protecting it from what I was reading.

02:08:07.000 Yeah, but not the camera.

02:08:08.000 The camera was external.

02:08:09.000 It was in the suit.

02:08:10.000 But it was external.

02:08:11.000 It was out like this.

02:08:12.000 It was out in front of them.

02:08:13.000 Well, I don't know, man.

02:08:14.000 I just read that the Pentagon spent like half a billion dollars on just fake ISIS videos and propaganda videos for terrorist recruitment.

02:08:21.000 Well, do you know why they did that, though?

02:08:23.000 That's something that people bring up a lot, but it's a little misleading.

02:08:27.000 What they did was they made these videos for RealPlayer.

02:08:30.000 And so when someone would watch these videos, they would collect metadata as to the location the person was watching.

02:08:37.000 And that way they could find out who was watching these terrorist recruitment videos.

02:08:41.000 That's completely insane.

02:08:42.000 You're right.

02:08:43.000 You're right.

02:08:43.000 But so is everything the government does.

02:08:45.000 And if they want to try to figure out where ISIS was, they have unlimited money. 0.96

02:08:49.000 I mean, they can kind of do whatever the fuck they want. 0.94

02:08:51.000 Someone said, hey, I got an idea. 0.95

02:08:52.000 We'll make these videos.

02:08:54.000 We'll have these terrorist recruitment videos. 0.99

02:08:55.000 It's just like how the FBI manufactures fucking everything. 0.98

02:08:58.000 Like the Garland, Texas, the first ISIS attack in the U.S. was really an FBI. Once again, it was an FBI informant. 0.99

02:09:05.000 Two FBI informants were on the scene.

02:09:06.000 Why didn't they stop the attack?

02:09:08.000 Kind of blew it, guys.

02:09:10.000 Right?

02:09:10.000 Right.

02:09:11.000 Well, here's a better one.

02:09:12.000 It's what they do all the time.

02:09:13.000 How about that video that we were supposed to be led to believe was the reason why they attacked Benghazi?

02:09:20.000 Remember that?

02:09:21.000 You remember that fake video?

02:09:25.000 That was like a movie.

02:09:26.000 They said it was about the movie.

02:09:27.000 And everybody was saying that that movie was the reason why they attacked us.

02:09:32.000 Which was a lie.

02:09:33.000 They knew it was a lie.

02:09:34.000 Yeah, they had a CIA operation running weapons out of this hub.

02:09:38.000 But they're like, oh, it's about a movie!

02:09:39.000 Everyone hates this movie!

02:09:41.000 And they're just writing over a movie.

02:09:42.000 Have you ever watched the movie?

02:09:43.000 No. 0.99

02:09:44.000 It's fucking unbelievably bad. 0.99

02:09:46.000 Oh, God, I'm sure. 0.99

02:09:47.000 It's so bad that you don't even believe it's a real movie.

02:09:48.000 Did the U.S. create that movie, too?

02:09:51.000 I would guess so.

02:09:52.000 I don't know, but I would say probably.

02:09:54.000 I would say, yeah, I would guess.

02:09:57.000 The thing that bothers me about the ISIS stuff is that, like I said before, that 70,000 number, it's like you could just say anything's ISIS. Like the ISIS caves that we dropped the Moab on, and it's just like, oh, it's an ISIS cave.

02:10:07.000 And that's why 70% of Americans just support bombing the shit out of Afghanistan because ISIS was there. 0.94

02:10:12.000 What happened? 0.99

02:10:13.000 I felt like there was more critical thinking that people were upset that we were playing judge, jury, and executioner.

02:10:18.000 But now we just kill ISIS in mass and it's just no one questions it at all.

02:10:22.000 I think it's like what we were talking about earlier.

02:10:23.000 There's just too much information.

02:10:25.000 There's too much going on.

02:10:26.000 And they bombed, they dropped the mother of all bombs right after we had accidentally killed a bunch of people that were on our side in Syria, right?

02:10:36.000 Yep.

02:10:37.000 So, like, that was like a good time. 0.99

02:10:39.000 Like, we had accidentally fucked up and killed some Syrian rebels. 0.99

02:10:42.000 I'm like, ooh. 1.00

02:10:43.000 Didn't we kill like 18?

02:10:44.000 Yeah, we killed a bunch of people that we were training and arming, Al-Qaeda. 0.97

02:10:48.000 Whoopsies.

02:10:49.000 And you know what Trump learned after the Syria strike?

02:10:52.000 He learned that he can get, because all he cares about, he's like a little child, wants positive reinforcement, and he hates, you know, the fake news, CNN, why don't you cover me fairly?

02:11:00.000 He goes out there and does these press conferences begging the news to cover him better, because that's all he cares about. 0.99

02:11:05.000 But that's what he learned, is that he can get bipartisan support and praise from the media if he just bombs the shit out of people. 0.99

02:11:11.000 So that's what he learned. 0.99

02:11:12.000 So then he dropped the Moab.

02:11:13.000 And what's next, Trump?

02:11:15.000 Because you know now how to be popular.

02:11:16.000 Just like Reagan came in and was seen as a joke until he got swept into the military-industrial complex and became a war president.

02:11:23.000 And I think that Trump came in as a reality star president joke.

02:11:27.000 And he's surrounded himself with more generals than any other president since World War II. And he's just...

02:11:33.000 Letting them lead him wherever they want.

02:11:35.000 And of course, generals just want to be in charge of conflict so they can get more stars and emblems and honors and lead us into different wars.

02:11:43.000 Well, that's what they do.

02:11:44.000 Yeah, that's what they do.

02:11:45.000 That's their career.

02:11:45.000 I was going to bring this up earlier, but I forgot.

02:11:48.000 That was one of the things that was most creepy is that he's saying he's gonna let the military do their job like like oversight of the military is what Eisenhower warned us about at the end of his term I mean remember when Eisenhower was leaving he talked about the military industrial complex and everybody's like what the fuck but that was something that was broadcast on television and back in the day That's when it ended.

02:12:10.000 It was broadcast on TV, some people listened, and then business went about as usual.

02:12:14.000 And it wasn't like today, where you could watch that video over and over again.

02:12:19.000 When you see that video, Eisenhower saying, military, industrial complex, yeah. 0.95

02:12:24.000 Trump is now adding 10% of the fucking budget, cutting all of these agencies and bolstering the Pentagon even more. 0.97

02:12:30.000 We already have the biggest military in the goddamn world, bigger than the next 10 countries combined. 0.99

02:12:34.000 Why is this happening? 0.94

02:12:35.000 This is what makes America great? 0.93

02:12:36.000 Just reverting back to like a completely disgusting... 0.99

02:12:40.000 It's sick, man. 0.67

02:12:42.000 What do we do, Abby Martin?

02:12:43.000 What do we do?

02:12:44.000 Well...

02:12:44.000 Okay, if President Abby gets elected, what do we do?

02:12:48.000 Well, first, abolish money in politics and start some sort of true democratic representation where you have simple laws to prosecute criminals whether or not they have money or they're billionaires. 0.99

02:12:58.000 So if you're a corporate criminal, you go to fucking jail. 0.99

02:13:00.000 Sounds like somebody wants to get assassinated. 1.00

02:13:05.000 Sounds like suicide by government to me. 0.99

02:13:08.000 It's sick, man.

02:13:09.000 I mean, yeah, it's hard to say, but I just know that Trump is taking us down a very dangerous path, and these people who are thinking that he's somehow anti-empire, anti-deep state, are very confused. 1.00

02:13:19.000 Bannon is a psycho. 0.95

02:13:20.000 Bannon wants war. 1.00

02:13:21.000 He wants war with China.

02:13:22.000 But isn't he on the outs?

02:13:24.000 No.

02:13:24.000 I think that's just on paper because Trump didn't like people calling him President Bannon.

02:13:28.000 So he's still attending the National Security Council.

02:13:30.000 He still has a huge say.

02:13:31.000 We know that he really is him and these billionaires, Robert Mercer and the Koch brothers, who somehow aren't globalists, right?

02:13:38.000 But they really are backing Bannon and Trump and they hedge their bets.

02:13:43.000 Bannon tried to do it before with Palin, but it didn't work.

02:13:45.000 He saw Sarah Palin as like the Trump 1.0 and made this giant movie about her and tried to latch onto her and then she flopped.

02:13:53.000 Have you seen the picture?

02:13:54.000 What?

02:13:55.000 With Palin, with Ted Nugent, and Ted Nugent's wife, and Kid Rock, and Kid Rock's girlfriend.

02:14:02.000 Oh my god, it's so creepy.

02:14:03.000 Next to Trump in the Oval Office.

02:14:04.000 This is our world. 0.99

02:14:05.000 This is idiocracy.

02:14:07.000 This is idiocracy. 1.00

02:14:08.000 It's like a fucking Bass Pro Shop video. 1.00

02:14:11.000 It really is. 1.00

02:14:12.000 It's like a photo from a Cabela's catalog.

02:14:15.000 I mean, it's hilarious when you're looking at the five of them next to Trump.

02:14:20.000 And when you were saying the military do your job, he's already like changed the rules of engagement where we were killing a thousand civilians.

02:14:27.000 He killed a thousand civilians in March.

02:14:29.000 Look at this.

02:14:30.000 Did he?

02:14:30.000 Yeah.

02:14:31.000 Yep.

02:14:31.000 Carpet bombed an area in Mosul a couple weeks ago killed 230 people.

02:14:35.000 Didn't hear a peep about it from the mainstream media.

02:14:37.000 Let's just move on to the next one.

02:14:39.000 Look at that photo.

02:14:40.000 And look, this is what's happening.

02:14:42.000 But seriously, Kid Rock's girlfriend's hot. 1.00

02:14:45.000 She's hot as fuck. 1.00

02:14:47.000 Kudos, kid. 1.00

02:14:48.000 She's hotter than him, that's for damn sure. 1.00

02:14:50.000 Of course. 0.97

02:14:51.000 Wait, is that Sarah Palin's husband?

02:14:53.000 No, that's Ted Nugent.

02:14:55.000 I don't even know what the hell he looks like.

02:14:56.000 You don't know what Ted Nugent looks like?

02:14:57.000 No, he's totally out of my periphery.

02:15:00.000 He's got a good hunting show.

02:15:01.000 Look at Sarah.

02:15:02.000 Look at Sarah.

02:15:03.000 Didn't her kid just have another baby? 0.85

02:15:06.000 I don't think that's her fault, Abby.

02:15:08.000 Maybe one day you'll have promiscuous daughters and you'll understand. 0.99

02:15:11.000 I won't be promoting... 0.70

02:15:13.000 What's it called?

02:15:14.000 What? 0.55

02:15:14.000 Like how she's just a whole, like, she praises don't have sex. 0.55

02:15:18.000 Like the whole abstinence thing.

02:15:20.000 Well, who are you talking about that was promoting Pray the Gay Away? 1.00

02:15:22.000 Was that Pence?

02:15:23.000 Yes.

02:15:24.000 Yeah.

02:15:25.000 Pray the Gay Away. 1.00

02:15:25.000 That's a good sign that someone's trying to fuck dudes. 1.00

02:15:29.000 Oh, for sure. 1.00

02:15:31.000 Right?

02:15:31.000 For sure.

02:15:32.000 Remember Michelle Bonkman and her husband?

02:15:34.000 Yeah.

02:15:34.000 Everybody's forgot about her.

02:15:35.000 Remember her husband, who is maybe the gayest guy that's ever walked the face of the planet? 1.00

02:15:40.000 Oh, he's so gay. 1.00

02:15:40.000 That guy comes glitter. 1.00

02:15:41.000 He's so gay. 1.00

02:15:43.000 Like glitter and shoots out of his dick. 1.00

02:15:45.000 Remember last time I was on and you showed me that Dennis Prager video? 1.00

02:15:49.000 Which one was that?

02:15:49.000 It was an argument about Israel where he was talking about why Israel deserves to exist and stuff.

02:15:54.000 After being there, man, holy shit. 0.98

02:15:56.000 I feel like people have no idea. 0.98

02:15:58.000 I didn't even know what the hell was going on until I went to Palestine and saw how crazy it was, but... 1.00

02:16:02.000 What is it like?

02:16:03.000 Give me your thoughts and your experience.

02:16:04.000 So everyone mistakenly thinks that Hamas controls Palestine.

02:16:09.000 That's not true at all.

02:16:10.000 There's three different areas that were drawn up with the original partition.

02:16:13.000 It's the West Bank, which is...

02:16:16.000 Totally under military rule by Israel.

02:16:19.000 And then there's the Gaza Strip, which is like the open air prison, which they bomb the shit out of like every couple of years and Hamas controls that area.

02:16:26.000 And then there's Jerusalem, which is an international city center that both Arabs and Jews live in.

02:16:30.000 But the West Bank has been occupied militarily since 1967 and it's complete martial law.

02:16:36.000 There's checkpoints.

02:16:37.000 All political parties are illegal.

02:16:40.000 Having a gun is like the least of it.

02:16:42.000 You can't hold a flag.

02:16:43.000 You can't belong to a political party. 1.00

02:16:45.000 You literally can't do shit if you're a Palestinian. 1.00

02:16:48.000 You just have to sit there and submit. 1.00

02:16:50.000 And even if you share a photo of someone who was killed by an Israeli soldier, you go to jail.

02:16:55.000 And you go to jail for the amount of months that Yeah.

02:16:58.000 Based on the shares and likes of the photo, they'll penalize you more and put you in prison for longer and longer.

02:17:03.000 I mean, I'll just tell you one story.

02:17:04.000 So if you put a photo on social media?

02:17:06.000 Of someone who died and they'll be like, you're sharing a martyr and inciting people to commit suicide on behalf of Palestinians. 0.98

02:17:12.000 You go to jail and they put them in jail.

02:17:14.000 There's 99.7% conviction rate.

02:17:18.000 Kids are tortured.

02:17:19.000 Kids are in prison.

02:17:19.000 It is absolutely insane.

02:17:21.000 We went to the first day that we were there.

02:17:23.000 We went to a funeral of some guy, some farmer who was shot by Israeli forces, and we went to the funeral.

02:17:28.000 It was horrible.

02:17:29.000 You know, all the women are wailing and crying. 0.99

02:17:31.000 And as we're leaving, the Israeli forces had set up a checkpoint right outside of this dude's house and started tear gassing and shooting rubber bullets like at People who were simply attending the funeral, just to punish people for attending the funeral.

02:17:44.000 We went to another girl's house named Aya who got shot in the vagina for peacefully protesting at some protest and they shot 200 people that day.

02:17:57.000 One guy next to her died, another guy was paralyzed. 0.99

02:18:00.000 They have a policy called shoot to cripple where they shoot guys in the dicks. 0.99

02:18:04.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:18:05.000 It is fucking nuts, man. 1.00

02:18:06.000 The West Bank is no joke. 1.00

02:18:07.000 I thought that I was going to die several times.

02:18:09.000 We were at this checkpoint going through Calandia, and there was this old man walking, like, clearly drunk or something, and kind of, like, walking a little bit toward the checkpoint.

02:18:17.000 They started shooting at him.

02:18:18.000 Bullets are ricocheting off the thing.

02:18:21.000 And I, you know, my partner Mike, who was an invading soldier of Iraq, was just like, we're going to die.

02:18:27.000 Like, they're shooting this guy.

02:18:27.000 There's bullets ricocheting.

02:18:29.000 It was absolutely insane.

02:18:30.000 And as we go through the checkpoint, the soldier's like, hey, stay safe out there.

02:18:34.000 And I was like, yeah, when you guys are arbitrarily shooting people.

02:18:38.000 And the person who was driving us had just told us that a couple months prior to that, some woman, Palestinian woman, because you can't go to Jerusalem, like if you're Palestinian, there's like barely any Palestinians who are even allowed to go pray at the most holy site, the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem.

02:18:52.000 You can't go to the beach.

02:18:53.000 You're just completely constricted in a prison.

02:18:55.000 And you can't travel.

02:18:56.000 And he was just telling us that months before we went through this checkpoint, someone was going through the checkpoint because they got a permit to go into Jerusalem, which is like a lifetime golden ticket, like Willy Wonka.

02:19:05.000 And they're walking and they get and she just got executed.

02:19:07.000 And then what?

02:19:08.000 Yeah, she just got executed.

02:19:09.000 And she was bleeding out at this checkpoint.

02:19:11.000 And her little brother tried to help her and they shot him, too.

02:19:14.000 And they're like hiding the video of this. 1.00

02:19:17.000 Because they fucking hate Palestinians and Palestinians are animals to these people. 1.00

02:19:21.000 It's sick, man. 1.00

02:19:22.000 It's sick.

02:19:24.000 It's really, really sick, Joe.

02:19:25.000 And I couldn't even get into Gaza.

02:19:27.000 We were banned from going into this territory because I was told by the Israeli government that I was a propagandist and that I was like an enemy agent.

02:19:34.000 And so I wasn't allowed to go into Gaza.

02:19:36.000 So Gaza is hell. 0.98

02:19:38.000 But the West Bank is under martial law and everything's illegal and you can't do a goddamn thing. 0.96

02:19:43.000 And it's super cool. 0.96

02:19:44.000 Like we went to this place called Ramallah that was just like Oakland where they're smoking weed.

02:19:49.000 There's like openly gay people there.

02:19:51.000 Like it's just completely different than what people think of Palestine, you know? 0.66

02:19:56.000 People think of it as just a bunch of people with turbans on and blowing themselves up.

02:19:59.000 And Hamas is like, you know, you elected Hamas and like, well, Hamas doesn't want Israel to exist. 0.50

02:20:04.000 It's like, well, actually Hamas is controlling this one area for a reason because it was built as this surplus when Israel was created. 0.83

02:20:11.000 Millions of refugees were put miles away from the homes that they were ethnically cleansed from.

02:20:16.000 And put into refugee camps in Gaza.

02:20:18.000 And when the Israeli military wanted more and more land...

02:20:21.000 By the way, all settlements in Israel are illegal.

02:20:25.000 All of them are illegal in the West Bank, but they just keep creating more and more and more. 1.00

02:20:28.000 And we would go to these villages of just Arab people living in these villages and the settlers will come. 1.00

02:20:33.000 You have to be a fanatical fucking asshole to move from California to an Arab village in Palestine and set up a goddamn tractor trailer and just live on top of their home. 1.00

02:20:42.000 And they can have, you know, giant machine guns. 1.00

02:20:45.000 They can firebomb you. 0.99

02:20:46.000 They can shoot you. 1.00

02:20:47.000 They can beat you up. 0.99

02:20:48.000 They're protected by the state.

02:20:49.000 You can go with a tractor trailer, set up a home.

02:20:51.000 The state immediately runs a water line, a power line, and a military outpost to protect you. 0.98

02:20:56.000 And the Arabs are just sitting there waiting to get killed or attacked. 1.00

02:21:00.000 It's absolutely insane. 1.00

02:21:02.000 And the way home demolitions work are insane, too.

02:21:05.000 Because they either deliver a piece of paper with a rock over it, and they're like, here, if you find it, Good for you. 0.94

02:21:11.000 And if you don't, then you're screwed.

02:21:13.000 And that's if you're lucky. 0.90

02:21:14.000 If you're not lucky, your home will be invaded by settlers. 0.55

02:21:17.000 And you'll be forced out of your home.

02:21:19.000 There's videos of this all over the internet of groups of settlers going and literally taking over Arabs' homes.

02:21:24.000 And then they just are forced out.

02:21:26.000 It's crazy, man.

02:21:28.000 It's completely way crazier than I ever could have imagined.

02:21:31.000 How long were you over there for?

02:21:32.000 A month.

02:21:33.000 Whoa.

02:21:33.000 Yeah.

02:21:35.000 Yeah.

02:21:35.000 And we were, you know, we were simply and people want to quabble about like, oh, it's not apartheid.

02:21:40.000 There are different fucking license plates for Arabs and Jews like you cannot go to areas like Israeli soldiers were arbitrarily set up checkpoints and just shut you out of your neighborhood and force you to walk three miles to your home like they can do whatever they want because you are under martial law. 0.73

02:21:55.000 And you can't, you have no mobility, like you have no freedom. 0.99

02:21:58.000 So it's really, it's really bad.

02:22:00.000 And we just did a whole series on the Empire Files talking about how Israel was created up until today.

02:22:05.000 And we go over like the settlements, the demolitions, the jail, and why I think there's no hope from within Israeli society to change.

02:22:12.000 Because it's becoming a more theocratic state and a more fascist state as it grows.

02:22:17.000 Because you have to be to maintain this Jewish supremacist state. 0.98

02:22:26.000 Militaristic in the way that you rule society, just like the U.S. I mean, people who were considered outlier fringe assholes 30 years ago are now like the Christian evangelicals are now in power. 0.97

02:22:37.000 It's really, really crazy. 0.98

02:22:39.000 I mean, it's not the same because Israel is a white nationalist, like ethno supremacist state.

02:22:44.000 And you see the way that they treat Ethiopians and African refugees and it becomes obvious that even if you're a Jew and you're black, you still are a second class citizen there.

02:22:55.000 Have you interviewed anybody that's pro-Israel?

02:22:57.000 I interviewed a lot of Israelis.

02:22:59.000 And what did you get out of that?

02:23:00.000 I interviewed a lot of Israelis.

02:23:02.000 It seems like a lot of Israelis... 0.99

02:23:04.000 Well, think about this.

02:23:05.000 In order to really reject the notion, it's like rejecting being an American.

02:23:10.000 It's like such a hard thing for people to really accept.

02:23:13.000 So there's a huge mobilization within Israel, people who are opposed to the military, who talk openly about how awful the occupation is, how brutal it is, all the crimes they committed.

02:23:23.000 But you'll very rarely find anti-Zionists who will come out and say, the notion of a Jewish state is wrong.

02:23:30.000 Because then it means you're just rejecting everything that you are.

02:23:33.000 And like, who are you then, if you're an Israeli and you are not Zionist?

02:23:37.000 You know, it's like, it's just a really hard notion for you to wrap your mind around.

02:23:41.000 But we interviewed about 40 Israelis, man on the streets.

02:23:44.000 To be leftist is a slur.

02:23:46.000 So, like, a lot of Israelis don't even entertain the notion of, oh, maybe there shouldn't be an occupation at all.

02:23:51.000 They're all just like, okay, well, maybe we should have a more humane occupation.

02:23:55.000 Maybe we should give them water.

02:23:57.000 Like, maybe they should have their own water supply.

02:24:00.000 When you say an occupation, you mean occupation of Palestine or occupation of Israel itself?

02:24:04.000 So, the West Bank has been militarily occupied since 1967. So when Israel was created in 48, there were those three partitioned areas that I talked about.

02:24:14.000 And ever since that happened, Israel has just continued to take over more and more land in the West Bank. 0.71

02:24:19.000 So these settlements just keep growing and growing and growing and growing.

02:24:22.000 And so, you know, over time, there was like mass resistances that happened.

02:24:27.000 And then in 67, Israel was like, we're just going to do a large scale invasion and try to take over all the land. 0.91

02:24:31.000 And then they just stayed and occupied this area.

02:24:33.000 And they just have been there ever since.

02:24:34.000 And so that's like the huge international crime.

02:24:36.000 When the international community is like, by the way, these settlements are illegal and we're like condemning you at the U.N. and the U.S. just vetoes it every time because the U.S. is just like boys with Israel unconditionally. 0.77

02:24:47.000 It's sick, man.

02:24:48.000 And they just signed that $10 billion aid package, giving it to Israel for the next 10 years.

02:24:54.000 Actually, I think it was $30 billion over the next 10 years, which is crazy because this would never be able to happen if it weren't just completely supported by the U.S. And why is it supported by the U.S.? I don't know.

02:25:05.000 I think that the U.S. loves using Israel as a military garrison. 0.54

02:25:09.000 They love using that strategic point in the Middle East to have.

02:25:14.000 And also, someone was shedding some light.

02:25:17.000 This Israeli soldier that I interviewed, who's amazing, his name is Arana Franti.

02:25:21.000 He was telling me that the military aid package that we just signed with Israel, it may look like just a gift to Israel.

02:25:26.000 We're like, here's $30 billion.

02:25:28.000 But he said, really, what it was doing, Israel has been like its own arms dealer.

02:25:32.000 It actually is one of the number one weapons dealers in the world now.

02:25:36.000 It actually did like this huge deal with India.

02:25:38.000 And so the U.S. felt threatened, right, because we're the military might.

02:25:42.000 And so we kind of locked in Israel with this giant packet and we're like, you have to buy U.S. armaments.

02:25:48.000 Yeah.

02:26:03.000 Over this country.

02:26:05.000 But honestly, it's becoming so unpopular.

02:26:08.000 Obama had a big feud with Netanyahu. 0.94

02:26:10.000 I mean, Trump is disgusting because Jared Kushner is personally invested in illegal settlements and he like his boys with Netanyahu. 0.91

02:26:16.000 Invested financially? 0.98

02:26:17.000 Yeah.

02:26:17.000 The Kushner Foundation, like his family's actual foundation, has funded illegal settlements.

02:26:23.000 But if you fund some charity in Gaza, you will go to jail for supporting terrorism.

02:26:28.000 But you can go fund illegal settlements and sponsor settlers to go and live on top of Arab villages, and that's fine. 0.99

02:26:35.000 I guess that's freedom.

02:26:36.000 Do you think that most people just aren't aware?

02:26:38.000 Yes.

02:26:39.000 I didn't even know.

02:26:39.000 I had no idea how crazy it was until I was there.

02:26:41.000 And you've been pretty vocally pro-Calistanian for a while.

02:26:44.000 I remember you had a piece that you were criticized about on your show where you were furious about...

02:26:50.000 Oh my god yeah and people are just it's so confusing and convoluted on purpose because that it really relies on Israel being the victim and for people not really understanding that Palestinians are not all terrorists and that it's really just a case of being occupied and like getting freedom so it's it's really tough man but a lot of these Israelis want they just want to push the Palestinians completely and where do they want them to go they want them they don't care as long as they're gone As 0.88

02:27:20.000 long as they're gone.

02:27:21.000 I mean, here's an example of how crazy it is.

02:27:25.000 El Orozaria is a soldier there. 0.83

02:27:27.000 You know, in the US when police kill black people and we have rallies like Black Lives Matter, people have rallies in support of these people who get killed.

02:27:35.000 In Israel, they have mass rallies, 10,000, 20,000 people strong in Tel Aviv.

02:27:41.000 If a soldier executes an unarmed Palestinian man and gets a slap on the wrist, like this guy Elor Azaria executed an unarmed Palestinian.

02:27:48.000 It was on video.

02:27:50.000 It's a horrific video.

02:27:51.000 And because there was this international uproar about it, Israel had to put him on house arrest.

02:27:56.000 The Israeli government put him on house arrest.

02:27:57.000 And that was enough for, like, mass mobilization of tens of thousands of people to come out and protest the fact that he was getting even reprimanded, a slap on the wrist to get house arrest.

02:28:06.000 Is this video available online?

02:28:07.000 Absolutely. 0.96

02:28:07.000 And they're chanting death to Arabs. 0.96

02:28:09.000 There's tens of thousands of people online.

02:28:11.000 What's the name of the video?

02:28:11.000 Look up Dan Cohen and David Sheen.

02:28:13.000 They do amazing journalism.

02:28:16.000 David Sheen is Israeli. 0.99

02:28:18.000 He's been there and he documents these crazy rallies, these fascist fucking rallies that no one else has shown. 0.99

02:28:24.000 And until I saw that, until I saw people chanting death to the videographers because they hate when you even film what's going on there, Death of the leftists. 0.99

02:28:33.000 It's really scary, man.

02:28:35.000 It's just a completely different society.

02:28:37.000 Here it is.

02:28:38.000 Here it is.

02:28:38.000 Okay, let's play it.

02:28:39.000 Nuts.

02:28:40.000 It's a long video.

02:28:41.000 Is it?

02:28:42.000 Look at that.

02:28:43.000 What is that?

02:28:44.000 It's just there.

02:28:45.000 The two of them?

02:28:46.000 The broskies, yeah. 0.99

02:28:48.000 Go forward to, yeah, like, see, it's just like crazy.

02:28:51.000 No!

02:28:52.000 We are being criticized all over the world as if they are righteous.

02:28:56.000 They kill for less than that. 0.98

02:28:59.000 The United States is the worst. 0.98

02:29:00.000 They bomb hospitals and it's all good. 1.00

02:29:01.000 So she's basically saying, how dare you criticize us when you guys do this shit, which is a good point. 0.99

02:29:06.000 Not just in war. 1.00

02:29:07.000 Police in the US shoot blacks and it's okay. 1.00

02:29:10.000 Because of the whole circus, the world would say that Israeli army are really murderers. 0.98

02:29:16.000 We gave them an official license to call us murderers.

02:29:20.000 Instead of covering it up and dealing with it ourselves, why make so much noise?

02:29:25.000 Whoa, she's pro-covering it up.

02:29:27.000 Once a soldier understands that he can be charged with manslaughter, next time he'll think twice, and that hesitation is likely to cost soldiers lives.

02:29:38.000 Wow, this is an interesting...

02:29:40.000 Oh, here we go, our brother Alar.

02:29:42.000 So everyone's cheering on the soldier.

02:29:45.000 We're certain you're now sitting in an open jail in an army base in the center of the country, watching TV. Look, Alor, the Jewish people support you. 0.86

02:30:04.000 The Jewish people are with you.

02:30:08.000 Jewish people do not abandon their soldiers in the past, present, or the future.

02:30:17.000 Whoa.

02:30:25.000 They're mad because they're all taught summary execution is like an institutionalized thing.

02:30:32.000 So they're all like, why the hell is this guy getting persecuted for something that everyone just acknowledges that this is So the soldiers have to be, in their eyes, soldiers have to be able to just execute Palestinians anytime they want.

02:30:44.000 Go to that huge rally at the end, yeah.

02:30:46.000 So do you think that they feel like trapped and surrounded?

02:30:51.000 And that they make this justification because they feel like there's Arab states all around. 1.00

02:30:56.000 Oh my god, they have a fucking concert. 0.99

02:30:58.000 Oh yeah, I know this is crazy. 0.99

02:31:00.000 That with the help of God, all Israeli soldiers would return home peaceably. 0.90

02:31:06.000 In the help of God, all terrorists will be neutralized.

02:31:09.000 Go to that part.

02:31:10.000 Yeah, go to there.

02:31:11.000 Flowers in the gun barrel.

02:31:14.000 Israeli national anthem.

02:31:15.000 Go to there, yeah, where it shows the...

02:31:17.000 Thank you for coming.

02:31:18.000 Good night.

02:31:19.000 Total respect for the Israeli army. 0.92

02:31:20.000 Yeah, there's a part in this video, people should watch it, where it says, yeah, we'll flip the country over, free the boy, death to Arabs. 1.00

02:31:26.000 Where is the death to Arab part? 1.00

02:31:29.000 Coming.

02:31:31.000 So how'd these guys get away with filming this?

02:31:34.000 Elor, the king of Israel lives.

02:31:41.000 Yeah, it's really...

02:31:44.000 It's very intense.

02:31:45.000 I mean, yeah, of course Israelis are indoctrinated. 0.97

02:31:48.000 I don't know.

02:31:48.000 It's a 10-minute video, but it's part of when the giant rallies.

02:31:52.000 We have it in our videos, too, on Empire Files.

02:31:55.000 Yeah, it's really...

02:31:56.000 Wow, we didn't want to vote ultra-right.

02:31:59.000 The square is full, the square is full. 1.00

02:32:01.000 Oh, because he's saying that the establishment makes it seem like an Arab is a son of a whore, a Jew is a soul. 1.00

02:32:07.000 Whoa. 1.00

02:32:11.000 This is dark.

02:32:12.000 Friends ask you here.

02:32:13.000 Yeah, he's like embarrassed.

02:32:15.000 They don't want this on film.

02:32:16.000 We really came to embrace and love the army and the soldiers.

02:32:21.000 Whoa.

02:32:21.000 He's trying to change it.

02:32:22.000 And the football club.

02:32:23.000 Is anybody here from Jerusalem?

02:32:24.000 He's like, no, no.

02:32:25.000 This isn't about killing Arabs.

02:32:27.000 We're about celebrating the army. 0.89

02:32:29.000 Anyway, there's some really crazy stuff.

02:32:30.000 Like, my friend David was attacked.

02:32:31.000 Let me listen to that terrible music.

02:32:32.000 Oh, God. 0.99

02:32:41.000 We're fucking sick of waiting for peace. 1.00

02:32:43.000 I will no longer dream about it until I die. 1.00

02:32:50.000 God, together with this holy crowd, I utter a prayer.

02:32:54.000 Jesus Christ.

02:32:55.000 Like, we would go into Jerusalem and tell Aviv and people would be like, are you Arab?

02:32:59.000 And I'm like, what?

02:33:00.000 Like, they just immediately just have this distrust and hatred for Arabs.

02:33:05.000 It's extremely intense.

02:33:06.000 And like you were saying, I mean, this is a thing that starts from childhood.

02:33:09.000 You are indoctrinated to think that every single person is trying to kill you. 0.99

02:33:15.000 So all these people or these guys that film this, they're kind of fucked now. 0.99

02:33:20.000 They've been jumped. 0.99

02:33:21.000 My friend David Sheen was jumped because someone came up to me and he was like, where's your fucking flag? 0.99

02:33:25.000 Because you wear Israeli flags as capes. 0.99

02:33:27.000 A lot of these people wear them.

02:33:28.000 It's extremely fascist.

02:33:29.000 And he was just like, my flag. 1.00

02:33:31.000 And they're like, yeah, where's your fucking flag? 0.99

02:33:32.000 And they beat him up. 1.00

02:33:33.000 Took his camera.

02:33:35.000 And this happens all the time.

02:33:37.000 Luckily, he's an Israeli Jew, so he doesn't get that much heat.

02:33:40.000 But my friend Dan also looks like he is a Jew.

02:33:44.000 So they don't really give him heat, but like, yeah, it's really dangerous to film there, and it's really dangerous to document what's going on.

02:33:49.000 They must be particularly furious about Israeli Jews that expose this stuff.

02:33:54.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:33:54.000 They're a real traitor, right? 0.99

02:33:56.000 Yeah, it's dangerous for them to be in the country, for sure. 0.99

02:33:59.000 That really ruthless patriotism.

02:34:04.000 Right.

02:34:04.000 That woman was saying that soldiers might hesitate if they can be charged with manslaughter.

02:34:10.000 You know, just, oof.

02:34:13.000 Yeah, it's pretty intense.

02:34:14.000 So I feel like, yeah, the whole Israel thing and people are confused about like Bannon and this anti-Semitism thing.

02:34:22.000 Look, you can hate Jews and love Israel. 0.94

02:34:24.000 Just like Richard Spencer.

02:34:25.000 There's a perfect example.

02:34:26.000 Richard Spencer sees Israel as the perfect example of what he wants the U.S. to be.

02:34:31.000 Because it's a, you know, ethnosupremacist nationalist state.

02:34:35.000 And that's what these people love.

02:34:37.000 So you can be anti-Semitic and still love the notion of fostering like a certain group, you know, a certain identity. 0.58

02:34:46.000 So does he think we should have mandatory military service the way they do?

02:34:50.000 Well, he definitely doesn't want different races breeding, so I think that he probably just wants like an insular society of all just like white people. 0.99

02:34:58.000 Jesus Christ.

02:34:59.000 When you get a bunch of people and everybody has to join the army, there's a bond that they have that's very different than a regular civilian bond.

02:35:13.000 The indoctrination that you get once you've been in the military and you fought side by side with your brothers and sisters in arms, it's a totally different feeling.

02:35:22.000 I know a lot of people that have been in the military and some of them got deeper in it than others.

02:35:28.000 And those people, it's almost like an us versus them.

02:35:33.000 There's society, it's that whole Chris Kyle sheepdog thing.

02:35:38.000 They're protecting us.

02:35:40.000 But they together as a group are much tighter than any other group in the United States.

02:35:47.000 Like, I mean, there's division in all groups, right?

02:35:51.000 But I got to imagine that the bond that they have as Israelis, all of them have been in the military, all of them living in this one small area surrounded by Arab states.

02:36:04.000 It's got to be super intense. 0.98

02:36:06.000 They should have created Israel not in the goddamn middle of the Middle East. 1.00

02:36:11.000 Put it in fucking Australia. 1.00

02:36:13.000 Like, what the hell were they thinking? 1.00

02:36:16.000 It's insane.

02:36:16.000 I don't know enough about the history of that region.

02:36:19.000 I mean, Sykes-Picot, Western, you know, empires, basically just drew a line through the Middle East and divided all these countries and formed all these borders back like a hundred and...

02:36:31.000 I don't know.

02:36:32.000 When was Sykes-Picot?

02:36:34.000 I don't know.

02:36:34.000 Somewhere around that time.

02:36:36.000 So anyway, fast forward to when the Ottoman Empire was colonizing this area and the British were occupying what is Palestine, right?

02:36:45.000 And the Zionist lobby was really strong.

02:36:47.000 This is well before the Holocaust and they were super, super strong and emboldened and they were negotiating with the With the Brits about where they can form like a Jewish state and and there really was no support until the Holocaust where they were able to sell like you know the fear more and there was even false flag attacks where Zionist organizations were going around different Arab countries and committing terrorism and then saying like all right like the Jews need to come and escape that you guys are being persecuted like they would actually carry out terrorism at like synagogues and stuff and this is all documented yeah But 0.63

02:37:18.000 the ethnic cleansing that went on, I mean, it's horrific.

02:37:21.000 There's dozens of massacres that happen in the formation of Israel.

02:37:25.000 Because even though it was partitioned initially by the UN, I don't know who gave this international body the authority to partition a country on top of another country.

02:37:35.000 But on top of that, there was several massacres that just continued to take more and more of the land, as I said, and that was called the Nakba. 0.86

02:37:43.000 And so all these people were expelled violently and purged from their land.

02:37:47.000 We visited some of these refugee camps and the people were just like, we literally, our houses are like five miles away and we're just stuck in these camps and we've been here for 50 years.

02:37:57.000 Yeah, it's sick.

02:37:58.000 And they have no water.

02:38:00.000 They just have one water tank every month.

02:38:03.000 And Israeli soldiers will go and spray skunk spray, which is like a military manufactured, disgusting, toxic tasting spray that tastes like sewage water. 0.99

02:38:14.000 And they'll just go target these water tanks and then your water will be fucked for the whole month. 1.00

02:38:18.000 There's just little things like this just to make people's lives a living hell. 0.63

02:38:23.000 Now, did you film when you were over there?

02:38:25.000 Yeah, we have tons of...

02:38:26.000 What are you going to do with it?

02:38:27.000 Well, we have four episodes out where we, you know, I go to anti-refugee rallies and I'm talking to people who are telling me that these people are subhuman infiltrators who need to be executed and rounded up and put in chains.

02:38:38.000 Jesus.

02:38:39.000 It's all in film.

02:38:40.000 I mean, it's really crazy and you really don't understand how bad it is and why it's so dangerous and how really it's been the crux of so many problems in the world.

02:38:51.000 Especially in that region, like what we've done just to create this settler colonial state in the middle of the Middle East and expel all these people violently and then just unconditionally support Israel no matter what war crimes they commit, no matter who they bomb, no matter who they kill, it's sick. 0.86

02:39:05.000 And people don't respect us for doing that. 0.98

02:39:07.000 And it's super hypocritical when we're engaging in military operations in the name of fucking morality and humanitarianism. 0.98

02:39:14.000 Why do you think they openly support Israel the way they do? 0.98

02:39:17.000 It's really hard to say.

02:39:18.000 Like, why do we support Saudi Arabia, too?

02:39:21.000 Yeah, but Saudi Arabia has oil.

02:39:22.000 At least there's some logic.

02:39:25.000 You can connect dots.

02:39:26.000 They're really simple.

02:39:27.000 I don't believe the whole Zionist lobby controls the U.S. I think that it's a partnership.

02:39:31.000 I think that the U.S. sees a lot of...

02:39:35.000 Leverage having Israel there, but I think it's becoming more unpopular where it's almost becoming a liability because the rest of the world is increasingly realizing how fucked up the situation is and trying to boycott like the state, you know, and and the US is it's not gonna be a popular thing.

02:39:52.000 Like even when Obama was leaving office, he did that kind of cursory like superficial thing where they for the first time didn't veto Israel or didn't veto like the condemnation of Israeli settlements.

02:40:02.000 And so that was like we didn't not do it, but we just like didn't veto it for the first time in a long time.

02:40:07.000 And that was like a huge slap in the face to Israel, even though it was like nothing but just a symbolic empty gesture. 0.99

02:40:12.000 But that was kind of Obama's like, fuck you as I was leaving. 0.99

02:40:16.000 But it really didn't do anything. 0.99

02:40:17.000 But it shows you that there's a lot of divisions, I think, from the inside.

02:40:21.000 And I think the government is realizing, like, it might not be worth it.

02:40:26.000 If the pressure continues to mount, I mean, we need to put pressure on our government to stop this occupation because it's completely inhumane and disgraceful.

02:40:35.000 So you said you have four episodes of this that are out right now?

02:40:39.000 Yeah, four episodes and we're putting more out.

02:40:40.000 We're putting the episode with all the interviews with Israelis next.

02:40:44.000 And where can somebody see these?

02:40:45.000 On Empire Files, on our show on YouTube.

02:40:48.000 So is it just that's the name of the channel?

02:40:50.000 Yeah, so Empire Files is the name of the channel.

02:40:53.000 And then if you go to TheEmpireFiles.tv, we have all of our archive on there that you can check out.

02:40:57.000 So is this all your stuff now?

02:40:59.000 You're doing this all completely independently?

02:41:01.000 Yep.

02:41:01.000 That's intense.

02:41:02.000 It's really intense, yeah.

02:41:05.000 What is it like being your own boss now?

02:41:07.000 Hard because I really love smoking weed and procrastinating. 0.91

02:41:11.000 So it's really hard to get shit done and then I'll be like, oh man, I need to put all this together.

02:41:17.000 So it's like just totally me and my partner just kind of... 0.98

02:41:20.000 You must have a deep sense of responsibility after you've been to somewhere like this and got this kind of footage.

02:41:25.000 Yes, definitely.

02:41:26.000 And we also went to the Amazon and saw the mess that Chevron left there, like 18 billion gallons of just oil just festering in the Amazon jungle that's just been left.

02:41:37.000 Really?

02:41:38.000 Yeah, and they just lied about a bunch of pits and never cleaned it up. 0.99

02:41:40.000 And so we went and I was like standing in this oil pit and I was like, what the fuck is this? 0.98

02:41:44.000 Everyone's dying of cancer. 0.99

02:41:45.000 I mean, it's a whole nother level when you're, you know, you're not just reacting to the news and giving like commentary like we were saying before in a studio.

02:41:52.000 Right.

02:41:52.000 You're going there and it's like...

02:41:55.000 The truth is in front of your face.

02:41:57.000 Is this the first time you've done stuff like this?

02:41:59.000 Yeah.

02:41:59.000 So you just felt like when you were on RT that you were kind of shackled by being in the studio and to really get a feel of these subjects that you're covering.

02:42:08.000 Because I'm really emotional.

02:42:09.000 I wear my heart on my sleeve and it's a detriment.

02:42:12.000 You're very fiery.

02:42:12.000 Yeah.

02:42:13.000 Sometimes it's a detriment, but I wanted to go and really be there.

02:42:17.000 I feel like I need to be connected to the people I'm talking about.

02:42:21.000 Kudos to you for doing that.

02:42:23.000 Thanks.

02:42:23.000 I'm gonna watch this stuff.

02:42:25.000 I'm gonna watch your videos.

02:42:26.000 I will.

02:42:27.000 And so Empire Fires on YouTube, what do you have coming up?

02:42:31.000 So coming up we have, we're going to Venezuela. 0.99

02:42:34.000 Oh shit. 0.99

02:42:35.000 Venezuela just fell apart, right? 1.00

02:42:37.000 Dude, it's such a mess. 1.00

02:42:38.000 It's a goddamn dictatorship right now. 1.00

02:42:39.000 Did you hear they took over the GM plant? 1.00

02:42:41.000 Well, that wasn't the government, actually.

02:42:43.000 That came out that it was not the government that did that.

02:42:45.000 Who is it?

02:42:46.000 I don't know.

02:42:47.000 They issued a correction.

02:42:48.000 That was not a real story.

02:42:50.000 So somebody else took over the GM plan?

02:42:52.000 Dude, it's such a mess.

02:42:54.000 There are massive...

02:42:56.000 I mean, can you imagine if, like...

02:42:57.000 Oh, my God.

02:42:58.000 I don't even know.

02:42:59.000 Like, millions of people from both sides are out just fighting in the streets.

02:43:03.000 Like, it is the craziest...

02:43:04.000 Well, how are you going there?

02:43:05.000 To report.

02:43:06.000 Let the dust settle.

02:43:07.000 Don't get shot.

02:43:08.000 Abby, don't get shot.

02:43:09.000 I know.

02:43:10.000 It's scary.

02:43:11.000 Like 30 people have died already, but... 1.00

02:43:13.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

02:43:14.000 I know. 1.00

02:43:14.000 But I feel like we need to go and shed some light about what the hell's going on. 1.00

02:43:17.000 GM fires 2,700 employees by text message after Venezuelan implant seizure.

02:43:23.000 We all received a payment and a text message.

02:43:26.000 There is no longer anyone in the country.

02:43:28.000 What is...

02:43:29.000 Go down.

02:43:30.000 Wow.

02:43:32.000 So they just took over the company.

02:43:33.000 They just took over the building.

02:43:36.000 Wait a minute.

02:43:37.000 I swear.

02:43:40.000 So what are they saying here?

02:43:41.000 Local government is part of the South American country's ongoing economic, political, and social crisis.

02:43:46.000 It's being seized by the local government illegally.

02:43:51.000 I swear to God that I saw this story retracted, but who knows.

02:43:54.000 Maybe.

02:43:55.000 This is the drive.com.

02:43:56.000 This is just a car site.

02:43:59.000 It's like GM sponsored.

02:43:59.000 And Reuters kind of counter-reported that, saying it looked like they were abandoning it for a while.

02:44:05.000 Oh, they've abandoned it for a while?

02:44:07.000 GM was going to abandon it already.

02:44:08.000 Fake news!

02:44:09.000 No, I'm just kidding.

02:44:10.000 I mean, it's a total mess.

02:44:12.000 According to Reuters' report on Monday, it looks like General Motors is abandoning Venezuela for a while.

02:44:18.000 Two employees told Reuters that the giant...

02:44:22.000 Employee plants employees were all fired via text message blah blah blah Corporate email accounts were all deactivated over the weekend.

02:44:29.000 We received a payment and text message The size of the payments was not disclosed were not disclosed but according to the union leaders they were too low of course unions never said they paid us perfect Everything's great.

02:44:41.000 We're psyched Yeah, man, it's gonna be crazy. 0.99

02:44:45.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:44:46.000 So Venezuela essentially is now some sort of a dictatorship, right? 1.00

02:44:52.000 I don't think so.

02:44:53.000 I think that there's...

02:44:54.000 What happened?

02:44:55.000 Well, I don't know.

02:44:56.000 I don't know enough about it.

02:44:58.000 So you won't know until you get there.

02:44:59.000 Well, I think that there's just a lot of misinformation out there, just like there is about every country.

02:45:04.000 Rex Tillerson just announced that we want to install another regime in Venezuela.

02:45:11.000 Chavez was a target from the U.S. empire for a long time.

02:45:15.000 So...

02:45:16.000 I just really take everything that I read with a grain of salt, especially in light of all the serious stuff.

02:45:21.000 I just feel like we're in a really heavy propaganda war.

02:45:24.000 You know, you look back in the coup when we actually removed Hugo Chavez from power for a couple days.

02:45:29.000 The New York Times was praising it, being like, a distinguished businessman took over.

02:45:36.000 You know, not mentioning like the US was behind all of this.

02:45:39.000 So I just all the media talking about, you know, it's a dictatorship and this is a pro-democracy movement.

02:45:45.000 I don't doubt that there are millions of people who want Maduro gone and they have absolutely valid things to say. 0.85

02:45:51.000 And there's a lot of fucked up things about the country, mismanagement, corruption, etc. 0.91

02:45:55.000 But, I'm gonna go there and try to find out what's going on. 0.96

02:45:57.000 Well, if you want to get a Chevy Volt for $29,000, the only way you do it is you gotta get those Venezuelan people to work for a dollar a week. 1.00

02:46:04.000 So, unless you've got a better idea, how about you fuck off? 0.99

02:46:08.000 Wait, how great is Trump's economic plan? 1.00

02:46:10.000 He's like, just give corporations giant tax breaks and all the jobs will come back here!

02:46:14.000 You're like, wait, corporations already have giant tax breaks and they're never gonna fucking come back here unless they can pay people 10 cents on the dollar, like they do in Bangladesh. 1.00

02:46:22.000 Right.

02:46:23.000 How is that a plan?

02:46:24.000 Or China.

02:46:25.000 Our phones.

02:46:26.000 The Foxconn companies don't have nets around the buildings because the job's awesome.

02:46:32.000 They have nets to keep people from killing themselves while they're working there.

02:46:36.000 That's extremely disturbing.

02:46:37.000 That's the only way you get people to make a cell phone that's that cheap.

02:46:41.000 We've reviewed it.

02:46:42.000 We went over the numbers of what a cell phone would cost if you had it made in America and you gave people a living wage.

02:46:49.000 It's more than double.

02:46:51.000 Yeah.

02:46:51.000 And I feel like I would pay that if I knew that I wasn't using conflict minerals.

02:46:56.000 It would be nice, but conflict minerals are the least of your concern.

02:47:00.000 Because this is just American labor.

02:47:02.000 Conflict minerals.

02:47:03.000 There's one company that was making an Android phone that was like a karma-free phone or something like that.

02:47:09.000 Wasn't it something along those lines?

02:47:10.000 But everybody was like, how good is the camera?

02:47:15.000 It only had like 3G. It was like a test of your, how much do you care?

02:47:20.000 Fuck 3G, dude. 1.00

02:47:22.000 5G is right around the corner, okay? 1.00

02:47:24.000 You gotta step up your game, Karmaphone.

02:47:27.000 By the way, Joe, do you know how many emails I get from dudes saying, I listen to you in the Joe Rogan show and you are horribly unbecoming.

02:47:34.000 You swear too much.

02:47:35.000 You're not a lady. 1.00

02:47:36.000 You need to stop swearing.

02:47:38.000 And it makes me think. 1.00

02:47:39.000 Those guys are pussies. 1.00

02:47:40.000 They're pussies. 1.00

02:47:40.000 And would a female ever be able to win any political office if a tape came out of them saying, I grab men by the dick? 1.00

02:47:47.000 Yeah, that's my kind of gal. 1.00

02:47:49.000 What if I looked like Trump?

02:47:51.000 Oh, no.

02:47:52.000 You couldn't have, like, all that loose skin. 1.00

02:47:54.000 But if you looked like you and, like, I'd grab men by the dick, be like, yeah, go pussy riot. 1.00

02:47:59.000 You know? 1.00

02:48:01.000 Those pussy riot girls are cute, you know? 1.00

02:48:03.000 That's why it works. 0.99

02:48:04.000 Yeah, you know, it's true.

02:48:06.000 I mean, look, there's a lot of shallow thinking in pretty much every part of the world.

02:48:11.000 I mean, human beings are involved in this Weird sort of a race for for resources and for breeding rights and for you know for social You know, social position. 0.98

02:48:24.000 There's a lot of weird shit going on with people.

02:48:27.000 And we're like in some weird stage of evolution where we're close to like getting better than we are now, but we're not there yet. 0.99

02:48:37.000 And the Trump thing is like a little slide back, the longing for nostalgia.

02:48:42.000 You know, we've kind of slid back a few steps.

02:48:45.000 But I always feel like...

02:48:47.000 I mean, my take on things is always that unless there's some sort of resistance...

02:48:52.000 The real hard work doesn't get done. 0.93

02:48:55.000 And I feel like this situation that we're in right now, which is really unappealing to a lot of us, is going to force people to activate politically, socially, and also, I think, like, this Berkeley shit that's going on, these riots and everything,

02:49:10.000 it's going to force people to reexamine the way they interact with each other.

02:49:13.000 This is not the functional way.

02:49:15.000 This is not a good way to interact.

02:49:17.000 And that's where I think, like, you know, we're talking about, like, what's important about This regressive left ideology and addressing it.

02:49:26.000 It's important because it fuels the right.

02:49:29.000 It fuels these alt-right people to have some sort of regressive left.

02:49:33.000 It's like literally what the alt-right's based on.

02:49:35.000 It's this like notion of, yeah.

02:49:37.000 Yeah, I mean it really is.

02:49:38.000 I don't know.

02:49:39.000 Listen.

02:49:40.000 You're awesome.

02:49:40.000 Hey, thank you.

02:49:41.000 I always love having you on.

02:49:42.000 We've got to do this more often.

02:49:43.000 This time I was like, I need to say more things that are just really depressing and political.

02:49:47.000 It's great.

02:49:48.000 Prime Abby Martin. 0.97

02:49:50.000 And he didn't say shit about Sam Harris, so he won't send me any horrible texts. 0.95

02:49:54.000 Would you ever get together with him? 0.67

02:49:55.000 Would you ever do a podcast with him and talk to him?

02:49:57.000 He's a very reasonable guy.

02:49:58.000 I swear to God he is. 0.98

02:49:59.000 I mean, the thing is that his followers are just so crazy. 0.98

02:50:04.000 So are mine. 0.82

02:50:05.000 So are yours.

02:50:06.000 Yeah, but not like his, man.

02:50:07.000 I mean, wow.

02:50:08.000 Wow. 1.00

02:50:10.000 I'm sure he's a nice guy, but damn! 0.99

02:50:13.000 I think he feels like you misrepresent what he says. 0.99

02:50:16.000 He misrepresents what I say. 0.99

02:50:18.000 Basically, his whole argument was tearing apart me, tearing apart official military data and statistics, which is complete bullshit. 0.98

02:50:25.000 Anyone who believes the military and Pentagon statistics, come on. 0.99

02:50:28.000 You don't think they fucking lie? 0.95

02:50:29.000 You think that 70,000 number is correct? 0.98

02:50:32.000 Well, they only got a few civilians.

02:50:34.000 It was a little...

02:50:35.000 Surgical.

02:50:37.000 I understand.

02:50:38.000 Look, a lot of my friends love Sam Harris.

02:50:40.000 They love his philosophy 100%.

02:50:42.000 But when it comes to politics, you know, there's a different jive.

02:50:45.000 I think it'd be funny having the two of you guys go at it, though.

02:50:48.000 It would be funny.

02:50:49.000 It'd be interesting.

02:50:50.000 It'd be funny.

02:50:51.000 It'd be interesting.

02:50:51.000 Would you do it?

02:50:52.000 I don't know.

02:50:53.000 I'll think about it.

02:50:55.000 No pressure.

02:50:55.000 I'll think about it.

02:50:56.000 No pressure.

02:50:56.000 It would be fun.

02:50:57.000 It actually would be fun.

02:50:59.000 Well, I'm glad you're back.

02:51:00.000 Thank you, Jack.

02:51:00.000 It was fun.

02:51:01.000 I enjoyed it.

02:51:02.000 Thank you.

02:51:02.000 Abby Martin, ladies and gentlemen.

02:51:04.000 The Empire Files.

02:51:05.000 Check it out on YouTube.

02:51:06.000 We'll be back tomorrow with my pal Dan Doty.

02:51:09.000 See ya.

02:51:10.000 Bye-bye.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 25, 2017

Joe Rogan Experience #950 - Abby Martin

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