Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Breakdown - Mayweather vs. McGregor
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In this episode, we discuss the Conor McGregor vs Paulie Malignaggi rematch, the upcoming fight with Nate Diaz, and much much more! We also talk about the return of Brendan Schaub to the UFC in Dublin, Conor vs Nate Diaz 2, and the future of the UFC light heavyweight division. And of course, we talk about UFC 246 and what we think of the first fight between Conor and Nate Diaz. We also take a look back at UFC 246, and give our thoughts on what we saw from the fight, and who we think is going to come out on top in the fight. We hope you enjoy the episode, and stay tuned for the next episode next week! -The Guys Who Know Best -Your Hosts: , , and . The Guys Who Don t Know Best: - & . . The Boys Who Don't Know Best is a new podcast hosted by John Rocha and Matt, and produced by John and Matt. The guys who don't know what they're doing, but they do it because they love the sport and they're good at it and they love to talk about it. -John and Matt talk about everything UFC and everything else going on in the UFC, and they talk about all things UFC and the UFC. This is a must listen! The boys are the definition of a true sports fanboy, so you won't want to miss it! , so be sure to listen to this episode of the boys talking about UFC, UFC and UFC, so don't miss this episode! and everything going on around the world of UFC and anything else that goes on the UFC and much more. Enjoy, enjoy! ! -Jon and the rest of the MMA and everything in between! -Jon & Matt's thoughts on UFC and other UFC related! -The boys who's going to be talking UFC and more! - - Jon and Matt's opinion on UFC! Thanks Jon and his thoughts on that's going down in the world! (and much more!!) - The boys will be back in the coming weeks! -John & Matt is back in action!! - John is back with a new episode, so stay tuned in to the next one! Jon & Matt, and much, much more Jon is back!! Cheers, Jon and the boys are back with more coming soon!
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Not that people in Australia or London or Manchester weren't, but in Dublin, I was like, damn, I don't want to leave, man.
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I was thinking yesterday when I was watching, like, Conor McGregor work out and, like, all the people surrounding him while he's working out.
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You know, he's standing around hitting the bag and he seems to just be doing his work, doing his normal work, you know, hitting the bag.
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But there's Just this circle of people, like right there.
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Like he can't like dance around, he can't back up too much.
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He's just right in front of that bag and he's gotta pretend those people aren't there as he works his combinations.
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They won't make fun of him if he lands the way he did in that clip of Pauly.
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Dude, when he landed that straight left, blam, and snapped Pauly's head back.
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I'm like, hey, Pauly, why didn't you talk about that?
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But if a guy like Conor McGregor does that, that is straight and clean and sneaky.
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And a little off-speed, like a little off-speed in the initial part of the movement, and he drops it in, bang!
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Like, he's getting super comfortable if he can do that to Paulie Malignaggi.
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Like, whatever you say about those clips, all we know is that that's what we've seen.
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We've only seen these little short little clips.
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I mean, granted, that's the 12th round, but still, Paul, two-time world champion.
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If Conor can do that with that kind of speed to Paulie Malignaggi and time that like that, that's...
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Yeah, but in that fight, Nate Diaz had the magic.
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I think if you really want to look at that fight honestly, the second fight, I don't think you see a winner.
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The only thing that I think you could say makes Conor a winner is that he dropped Nate.
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But Nate was saying that he went down with punches anyway because he was hoping Conor would follow him to the ground, which may or may not be true.
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But it is a good strategy if you have a wicked guard.
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You've been watching the sport way too long to believe that.
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If he really did decide to get, like when he gets clipped, just to go down with it and to try to bring him to the ground.
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He doesn't do it by getting dropped in the face with the left hand.
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Well, it was a very good shot, no doubt about it.
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But the idea is, if you get hit with a good shot, you can decide to go down.
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I think you have to take it into consideration as a possibility.
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You're right, we never have seen him do it before.
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The only guy who's ever really fucked up, Nate, in a fight is Josh Thompson.
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Josh Thompson head kicked him, and every other fight, even when he's gotten beat up, like the Dos Anjos fight, he's got his legs beat up, and Dos Anjos definitely won a decision.
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Yeah, but he's still never got his ass whooped.
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You could say the Dos Anjos fight was kind of a beating.
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Dos Anjos is just kicking the shit out of his leg.
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Even in the Thompson fight, if they let it go, he probably would have recovered eventually if he didn't go unconscious.
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See, I think the real test of who's better, Conor McGregor or Nate Diaz, is if they fight at 55 in the trilogy fight.
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They're both not fighting at 70. If they go to 55, you have your true, I think, winner there.
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When he gets real lean, like in the Michael Johnson fight, come on.
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I'm assuming that's what he's waiting for, because they've offered him fights, right?
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But he's just waiting for that big Conor Payday.
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And they're still in the mix for whatever weight class, whether it's 55 or 70. Sure he is, if he wants to be.
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What it is, is he owes them $100,000, and he won't give it.
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Well, they wanted like 165. I think he gave him like 65. You can argue that though.
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Like, remember with Conor, like, listen, you're suspended.
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They asked him to shoot a bullying commercial and pay $175,000.
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They went, All right, no money, just a 15-second tweet, and then we'll let you fight here.
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Well, you've got to realize, when a guy's throwing a Monster Energy drink, and they're throwing water bottles, I don't like to say this, but this is true.
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There's a big part of what's going on there that is theatrics that's no different than pro wrestling.
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It's called selling a fight, and that's what they're doing.
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They're throwing shit at each other, selling a fight.
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Do you think he's really trying to incite a riot?
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The UFC was like, let's just keep that in a loop.
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And then they're like, we do not approve of this.
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On the Jon Jones saying, I did cocaine a week before I beat your ass.
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And Jon Jones like in shape with something to prove like he did against Cormier.
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How about the fact that he says the exact perfect thing after the fight's over?
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It's just, you know, I mean, it's just championship.
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When I said to him, I didn't know what I was going to say to him, but when I said to him, you made it back.
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Not just that he made it back to the title, but he made it back from the dark lands.
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He made it back from running away from a hit-and-run accident with who knows what the fuck you've got on you.
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People are mad at DC. They boo DC, but then John Jones, his fame went up.
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He hit a pregnant lady, broke her arm, and ran from the scene.
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First of all, I don't understand how you could not be a fan of DC. I don't understand it.
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I mean, he's throwing around Josh Barnett, who's a 255-pound gorilla.
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Daniel Cormier is hoisting him through the air.
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I mean, the guy gets into MMA fairly late in his career, right?
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Gets into MMA and says he's running through people.
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Has a fight, the first fight in the UFC he has against Frank fucking Mir.
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Former UFC heavyweight champion, your first fight in the UFC. And beats the brakes off him.
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I mean, it wasn't the greatest fight, but still whooped his ass.
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It's just people got mad at him for the Anderson Silva fight, that he held Anderson Silva down.
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Anderson Silva at 2A notice, or whatever the hell it was, come on.
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He just didn't take a chance, especially UFC 200. It's such a big card and there's so much hope when you don't perform.
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And with DC, I think the biggest thing is, and it's not his fault, he's better than everyone in the world at light heavyweight except for Jon Jones.
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So when Jon left and he had the title, people are like, that's fake.
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Could you imagine if you could get Daniel's brain...
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Isn't that interesting how that doesn't happen?
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It's like Jon Jones is the closest thing to a guy who's got insane talent, but he also has like almost like that Daryl Elkins, Darren Elkins rather, the Darren Elkins mentality of like never quit.
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Remember when he got his arm hyperextended like real bad by Vitor?
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You know, when he fought the Gustafson fight, he wasn't in shape at all.
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I think at times he's ranked four or five in the world.
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And went in there and cradled him like a baby and whooped his ass in the first round.
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I mean, it's just talking about a different animal, man.
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He's a different animal, but he's also got this mindset.
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Whereas, like, Rumble doesn't really like to fight.
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He doesn't want to be rolling around with dudes.
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But Rumble is, like, the scariest guy ever at 205 when it comes to striking.
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Like, who the fuck's ever been scarier than Rumble?
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He's like, I'm knocking him out in the first minute or so.
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Like inside this clinch, he catches him with that hard left hook.
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Like, he's not calculated like a John or, you know, like a JDS where he's sitting back reading guys.
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But he's got confidence in his power, for sure.
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Now, does that work against a Gus Finn and Jon Jones is the question.
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That motherfucker might be champion of the world.
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Just fucking light heavyweight champion of the world.
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Because he was pointing to his watch after the fight.
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And when he clips guys, you can see they're like, oh, shit!
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See, I think they should do Gustvin Jones, right?
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DC. Well, if DC wants to fight again, we're going to see what happens.
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He goes, not only am I going to fight again, I'm going to fight John again.
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It was a good fight up until the moment John landed that high kick.
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See, I don't think he's ever going to get the fight either.
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He certainly could because you could play clips of that fight and say, you know, he was doing very well in that fight.
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I think John was landing more volume and he was mixing things up really well.
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That's John kind of feeling things out, and then once he got comfortable, oh, this is what we're doing.
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A little smooth, but I do think DC's pressure and stuff like that, and just getting under his feet, and once he did, then he started to tee off and take over.
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I think, yeah, he found his rhythm and he found DC's timing.
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And then they settled in a little bit, too, once they got into the second round.
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Both guys had exerted quite a bit of energy, hit each other quite a few times.
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There's Ozdemeyer, there's Gustvin, then Brock Lesnar, you got Stipe.
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I mean, if they work out some sort of a deal where he fights Brock Lesnar...
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When he called him out at the end of the fight, I was like, oh my goodness.
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Also, I think Brad Pitt, that guy lived with Angelina Jolie for like 10 years.
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You know how much rage she must have pent up inside of him?
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Talk of organic, sustainable farming and adopting new kids.
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He just wants to smash, just go in there and fuck him up.
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Just so angry at listening to that crazy lady he lived with for decades.
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He goes, I love kids, but there's a new one every goddamn day.
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Hey, bro, she had a vial of Billy Bob Thornton's blood that she carried around her neck.
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And Billy Bob, I'm not hating on you, she was, and is, fucking beautiful.
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For a guy like him, when does a guy like him get a girl like that?
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You gotta talk such mad shit, she puts your blood around her neck.
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Not only that, but here's the real problem with it.
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I tell people it's Dragon Blood or some shit, but when you tell it's her, it's a little weird.
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Well, I think anybody that's as good an actress as she is, and she's a really fucking good actress.
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I think you have to have a good percentage of crazy.
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I mean, even for men, the men actors who were really good, like Dana Day-Lewis, motherfucker was a shoe cobbler for six years just to play some 30-minute role or something.
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No, I think he lives in Connecticut and he makes furniture or some shit.
00:17:04.000
It's like his art or what his mind goes towards, it's not dictated by finance.
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It's not dictated by the box office success you could potentially have.
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It's literally dictated by what he's interested in.
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If he's interested in making shoes, he's just gonna make shoes.
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Yeah, like, you're not gonna see him cast it as Superman.
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Like, he's like, that's not his art, you know what I'm saying?
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We admire the shit out of that because we compromise all the time.
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You're always like, you know, trying to suck up to the boss, hoping you get that raise, or, you know, you're compromising what you say around the office because, you know, you're at this level of the company ladder.
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There's people above you that'll get upset if you talk about things.
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Yeah, Ben Affleck's like, this is perfect for me.
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Who was the other homeboy who surprised played Batman?
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Well, Christian Bale was the best Batman, in my opinion.
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But I mean, you gotta go comic book a little bit, and that's how you go comic book.
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You're going to make a fake voice for your superhero?
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Yeah, don't you at least have some mouth thing that changes you?
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Does he have a cat phrase or something people would know?
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Why do we need to see the lower chin of Batman?
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First of all, I don't think that's a good idea for protective measures.
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You have a white button where the most vulnerable part of your face is.
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If I came in here and you had a bat suit on, if you had the Batman suit on, I'd be like, oh, it's Joe.
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The chin part is terrible because like that's the part you'd want to punch and it would be like so white If you're in a fight with Batman, just shoot for the chin.
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It's like if you're hitting focus pads, you get used to looking at this one spot.
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It's like you have camouflage on everywhere, but no spot you're going to get knocked out of.
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It's like the horrible idea when you look at it.
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You're going to not protect the most vulnerable.
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I mean, do they really have to have that same suit?
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It's like Bruce Wayne from Batman in the fucking, like, Batman.
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At least he didn't have, like, a protective suit on.
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No, he just had the thing over his eyes like this.
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This Batman has gotten to the point where he's in basically an armored suit, right?
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He can fly so fast, he makes the world spin backwards.
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He can just pick his dumb ass up and carry him as high as he wants and lets him go.
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How crazy is the idea that gravity is so dense...
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On Superman's world, that when he comes to Earth, he can fly.
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And then the atmosphere is so different that his body's bulletproof, but he looks just like us.
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But the atmosphere, this is what people don't understand.
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If you went somewhere, if you're like from Earth, right, and then you go to like somewhere that has like less gravity, like space.
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That's why there's only a certain amount of time you can be there, right?
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And he was describing what it was like coming back from...
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He just came back looking like Schmeagle or some shit?
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He became the man who spent the most time in space when he surpassed...
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Russians always got to take it to another level, don't they?
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I think you'd have to say, what's the longest space mission or something?
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That was 2015. I believe Commander Hatfield was after that.
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It's, you know, get guys a gig like that where they can open up for you in front of a packed house.
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Like, I'm going out there just, like, Which is fine.
00:22:55.000
You know, the only time I ever did that in the last 10 years was when I was helping Callan out.
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When I warmed the crowd up for Callan's special.
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And I was like, this is so weird to go on stage and say hi and not have someone in front of you.
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It brought me right back to when I used to do it.
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Right away, I started thinking of how, when I first started out, most of the shows I would do would be the opening act.
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Like in Dublin, doing a show at 2 in the afternoon was just crazy, man.
00:23:31.000
They booked on such short notice, that's the way I'd do it at 2 and I'd do another one at 7. Oh, wow.
00:23:38.000
How did you get away from those savages after the show was over?
00:23:42.000
I did a meet-and-greet with everyone, and then they bounced.
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Ireland, England, you know, they have a long history of tradition that we don't really understand, you know?
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Just what their culture's like, you know, their language and their history.
00:24:11.000
You go over there, you're like, oh, this pub is 700 years old.
00:24:15.000
Yeah, I went to, it was supposed to be the oldest pub in Ireland, and there was bullet holes from fighting, you know, the rebels.
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They were in there, and his family owned since day one.
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And the owner was this dude who was old as fuck now, but he was born and raised upstairs.
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We were there just all night with Patty Hooligan.
00:24:48.000
Because I have a bit that I talk about football and I go, American football.
00:24:54.000
But you know what's best for me, Joe, is like, I did, what was it, like 10 shows in four days or something like that.
00:25:12.000
Like when I did Salt Lake, Salt Lake City, when I did Wise Guys, I was like, man, I really get to feel it again, like what it's like to do four one-hour shows in a weekend.
00:25:30.000
Dude, what is it about coffee that gives you phlegm?
00:25:54.000
I mean, I drink a shitload of coffee and my voice is good.
00:25:59.000
For whatever weird reason, when, like, if a guest is talking, like, if you've got a good story and your story goes on for a few minutes, and then I don't talk for a while, it all builds up.
00:26:17.000
I told Cal, you need to get your fucking throat checked out.
00:26:20.000
I mean, he's been doing it since I've known him.
00:26:31.000
Because we were talking recently about this guy who retired.
00:26:37.000
Some dude just retired from the NFL? Yeah, I'm dying, Joe.
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What I'm asking is, like, you as a guy who's played football and as a guy who sees all this shit that's coming out now, do you think there's going to be a change in the game?
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Do you think there's going to be, like, less people that are signing up for it?
00:26:54.000
And they say, like, with the youth leagues now, they're like, oh, we're teaching them how to hit proper.
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That's a fun campaign and stuff like that, but is America ever going to get rid of football because of CT? No, man.
00:27:20.000
And so once that comes out, now we know it with boxing and mixed martial arts.
00:27:37.000
For your health, if you're coming from nothing, it pays for your college, you make, you know, $40 million, your family, your family, their family, set for life.
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God, the juice might be worth the squeeze, depending on how bad you're going to have it.
00:27:50.000
I mean, there's probably a lot of guys who wash out.
00:27:55.000
Yeah, I knew a dude who washed out, and he was really fucked up.
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The point where he was seeing shit that wasn't there.
00:28:01.000
He would go out in the yard and start talking to himself.
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Everyone responds different, but they say the biggest thing, and I guess it's the biggest thing because I've played football since I was, what, six years old, but when you're young, hitting.
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When you're young, hitting, it's just like you shouldn't hit until, you know, they say probably to high school, but if you don't hit until you're in high school, you're going to get left behind.
00:28:23.000
You know what's interesting about that is that there's a real good argument when it comes to striking.
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That if you can teach kids how to play fight when they're young, just make sure they play fight.
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You know, you don't want them, like, going to war.
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Teach them how to play fight striking when they're young.
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Or, you know, like, just where you're boxing but you're not hitting too hard.
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Because they're not going to hit each other hard anyway.
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And then on top of that, teach them to not hit hard at all, and then teach them to be real solid on technique.
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Then, they're super accustomed to the movements of striking, and then you get them to a position when they're like 16, 18. They've been boxing their whole fucking life.
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And their movements are fully ingrained to the point where an average athlete coming into it at a later age, without all those super fine-tuned movements ingrained in you while you were growing up and developing...
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You almost don't have a chance, you know, like when he gets to like a Roy Jones jr. In his prime level for sure You know if you're like an average athlete who learns boxing at 26 and then you At 30 have to box Roy Jones.
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I mean good enjoy that good fucking I don't care what kind of athlete you are No, it doesn't matter.
00:29:41.000
And some people make that argument with Floyd Mayweather.
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They say, listen, his uncle, his dad, he's been doing since he was, what, six?
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He's been hit in a professional career that spanned 49 fights.
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The only kind of thing that gives people hope if you're on Team MMA or Team Conor, which is not MMA versus boxing, but if you're Team Conor, is these X-Factors of Floyd's had two years off, right?
00:30:14.000
But in the past, he's taken time off and he comes back better.
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And then the 8-ounce gloves, which they officially approved today.
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8-ounce gloves is a huge, huge advance for Conor, I think, man.
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I think I have an idea what I think's going to happen, but no one knows.
00:30:43.000
And that's why I think the footage of Conor sparring Pauly is such a big deal, because people go, oh shit, no, he can actually box.
00:30:51.000
And I even think Dane and the Fertittas, who were there watching, go, uh, we actually got something here.
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Because I think everyone's like, alright, Conor, MMA, he's good.
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I'm telling you, this dude, as far as boxing, he's going to give you guys some problems.
00:31:05.000
He's going to give you the best all-time problems.
00:31:08.000
What kind of training had Paulie been doing before that fight?
00:31:23.000
He got word from Conor's team that they're going to use him, so he started to train some, but it's not like he was getting ready for a fight fight.
00:31:31.000
Man, you know, for me to go 12 rounds was tough.
00:31:35.000
Because the first day they used him, I think he said he only did six or eight rounds.
00:31:38.000
And then he was like, oh, we're going to spar tomorrow more and I'll get in better shape, stuff like that, get used to the fighting shape.
00:31:45.000
Then he flew to cover the Mikey Garcia-Broner fight and then came back and he was fresh off the plane and then he sparred 12 rounds.
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They just wanted the kind of help that he didn't want to give.
00:32:05.000
They wanted the kind of help where Conor beats the fuck out of a world champion.
00:32:10.000
Like, in Conor's defense, when they go, oh, you're bringing Polly Ingos.
00:32:14.000
He says it's on Showtime during the media scrum.
00:32:16.000
He goes, yeah, I'm bringing him in to fuck him up.
00:32:20.000
He goes, yeah, I'm going to bring him in and fuck him up.
00:32:27.000
So then Polly gets in and goes, oh, we'll spar and be all good.
00:32:30.000
But remember, six months prior to this, Polly goes, I could beat Connor with one hand tied behind my back.
00:32:42.000
You know, he thought they would spar and be like boys, but that just didn't happen.
00:32:44.000
Like, Connor's literally there just to prove a point.
00:32:46.000
Well, it's a very important point to prove before a giant fight like that.
00:32:51.000
Like, that video alone is probably worth who knows how many thousands of hundreds of thousands of buys.
00:33:00.000
I mean, a lot of people were going to buy the fight anyway, but how many more people are going to buy the fight now that you see Conor landing that straight left?
00:33:08.000
And then dropping Paulie, and Paulie said is a pushdown, and you could see that it's not a pushdown.
00:33:15.000
If you get pushed down like that, you're probably concussed already.
00:33:19.000
Yeah, if your balance is off, I see what you're saying.
00:33:21.000
Like, he was saying something about him getting grabbed on the back of the head.
00:33:32.000
But the other thing is Pauly's saying, you know, and he goes, take what you want from the videos, but I think Connor and his team and Dana fucked up putting this out because now Floyd Mayweather's team knows this is how he fights.
00:33:43.000
Like this is the dirty stuff he does so they can warn the ref.
00:33:50.000
You can get away with it, but that's frowned upon.
00:33:57.000
Give me some volume on that so you can hear that.
00:34:08.000
Okay, you know, he hits him with a straight left that's clean, and then it looks like he's wobbled and he hits him with a right hand afterwards.
00:34:15.000
Like, play that part one more time when he goes down.
00:34:44.000
Like, if he can land those combinations on Paulie Malignaggi like that at any point in life, that is...
00:34:55.000
But at the same time, in Paulie's defense, you know, it's 9-12 round fight shape.
00:35:07.000
You know, I had Andre Berto on my show, and he's supposed to help Conor out.
00:35:21.000
He goes, let's say I go up there and help Conor, and for whatever reason, he doesn't think he's going to win.
00:35:25.000
He goes, let's say he blasted Floyd Mayweather in the face.
00:35:27.000
I mean, it's so much hate from the boxing world.
00:35:31.000
And he's like, and the way he did Pauly, like, we just can't do it, man.
00:35:34.000
He goes, I wish him the best, but I'm not going to help him.
00:35:36.000
Well, I also think that if he's peaking and he's in full fight shape and they're making you fight 12 rounds, I mean, when you're in the gym and you're sparring 12 rounds, isn't that unusual that you get one guy to box 12 rounds with you?
00:35:58.000
I feel like he's such a good guy, he didn't say anything.
00:36:00.000
Listen, if you brought me in to do anything, I've had guys that wanted me to help him with camps, I turn it down, and you're like, hey, we need you to go 5-5s.
00:36:08.000
I'll give you one round, two rounds for the best condition.
00:36:13.000
You bring in fresh guys for different looks and push you harder.
00:36:15.000
So this is just a showcase of Conor's abilities at Paulie's expense.
00:36:26.000
Do you think that he got rocked and doesn't remember how this went?
00:36:30.000
Did he think that he maybe did think that he got pushed down?
00:36:36.000
I think, you know, Pauly had won some, and he even says, he goes, I won some rounds, Conor won some rounds.
00:36:43.000
Me too, and the UFC said they're going to release it after the fight.
00:36:48.000
It's going to be a real test, because Dana said it was a one-sided beatdown.
00:36:52.000
Yeah, Dana was like, he has asked for 12 rounds, which I don't believe that.
00:36:57.000
You've got to go with what Pauly did say happened, and then what you see happened.
00:37:04.000
I think, again, I think it's people who are like, you know, everyone's on this Conor wagon, especially in the UFC. Dana, that's his golden boy, right?
00:37:10.000
And I think we knew Conor could box, but then when you see him doing it against Pauly, you're like, oh, shit.
00:37:15.000
And so even, I bet when we watch the tape, we're like, oh, damn, Conor did pretty well.
00:37:19.000
I don't think he beat the shit out of Pauly for 12 rounds.
00:37:28.000
If there were more moments like this, don't you think they would leak those too?
00:37:33.000
I mean, they're saying they don't want him to see what Connor's working on.
00:37:37.000
Okay, just show us a montage of punches that landed.
00:37:40.000
Just give me one of those Mike Tyson 60-second highlights.
00:37:46.000
I mean, you don't have to show all of its patterns.
00:37:51.000
And now Pauly, you have this huge soap opera in boxing going on right now.
00:38:05.000
And then Paulie can say, look, I want my shot at him.
00:38:09.000
You know, you talked a lot of shit and I didn't get in shape.
00:38:13.000
But it's only the play if Conor has a good showing.
00:38:19.000
Even if he loses the decision, as long as he has a good showing, then you do McGregor promotions against Paulie Malignaggi, and I'm buying that shit.
00:38:33.000
We're going to put on these eight ounces, go 12 rounds, and make some money.
00:38:38.000
That's a lot of people think he'll never fight MMA again.
00:38:41.000
I mean, he's going to make $100 million from this fight.
00:38:58.000
And I know a lot of UFC people are like, that's because you're never a fighter shop.
00:39:04.000
They're both throwing up deuces, going, fucking see ya.
00:39:10.000
Sitting in satin sheets and I can go fight Pauly for another whatever, 50 mil probably of my own money?
00:39:23.000
Money Man says Notorious will lose 90% of his $75 million payday if he's disqualified.
00:39:29.000
Oh, yeah, that's if he does an MMA move on him.
00:39:34.000
Can you throw a Superman punch, spinning punch?
00:39:39.000
It's too bad you can't throw a spinning backfist, though.
00:39:43.000
I mean, you have some gentleman rules, for God's sake.
00:39:45.000
Could you imagine, though, if Floyd said you could throw elbows?
00:39:56.000
And you get elbows and you can throw one kick around.
00:39:58.000
And the guy can clinch and throw elbows from the clinch.
00:40:01.000
Do you ever see the sequence where Jordan Meehan knocked out Cyborg in Strikeforce?
00:40:07.000
It's one of the nastiest sequences of standing elbows.
00:40:13.000
Like a fucking seminar on how to land a standing elbow.
00:40:30.000
Oh, I thought you said he could kill a different guy.
00:40:33.000
He basically had to put mesh wiring all over his face now.
00:40:37.000
Yeah, and he said he was going to fight again, then he changed his body.
00:40:41.000
I mean, who knows how his dome works right now.
00:40:44.000
I mean, after you get hit like that and your skull caves in...
00:40:56.000
Left-right don't happen till they get to the case boom [...
00:41:07.000
He just hit him with like 13 fucking straight elbows to the head.
00:41:19.000
I think you're giving the guy the best chance he can.
00:41:27.000
I hate criticizing him, but I thought it was two punches too late.
00:41:36.000
You got head kicked, then you see his legs buckle and he's wobbling around.
00:41:39.000
And then when he goes down up against the cage, it wasn't a real significant thing.
00:41:50.000
And then John jumps on top of him and is just wailing on him.
00:41:53.000
He could have stopped at one or two punches earlier.
00:41:55.000
But, you know, in his eyes, what if DC recovers?
00:42:03.000
I totally agree with you, but I'm just looking at it from John's point of view.
00:42:06.000
I get it, and I don't even like criticizing John.
00:42:13.000
It's tough to watch with DC. My thing with DC, and you talk about him coming back, he's, what is he, 39, 38?
00:42:19.000
39. He has a great job with the UFC as far as UFC tonight, right?
00:42:34.000
You know, I don't know what his pay is, but, you know, at some point, you know, health has to take into account with this.
00:42:39.000
Yeah, the Gustafson fight was a grueling five-round fight, you know?
00:42:48.000
I think Gustafson's better now than ever before, though.
00:43:00.000
See, the thing about him is he's the only guy that can match John for distance and reach.
00:43:13.000
John is, like, very creative, mixes things up more.
00:43:17.000
But Gustafson is more, like, bouncing around and footwork.
00:43:23.000
And he's also the first guy to ever land a Takedown on John.
00:43:33.000
You know, they were asking John, how about John was on Good Morning America, getting interviewed by Michael Strahan.
00:43:41.000
So he's on Good Morning America, and they asked him about what's next, and he talked about, you know, he'd like to fight Brock.
00:43:47.000
Like, that's always been kind of his thing, and Connor kind of set that with these super fights.
00:43:51.000
But, you know, Brock can't fight to, I think, whatever.
00:44:05.000
And he goes, not happening because they want to tax me another 10% of a fight in New York.
00:44:08.000
So he's like, I won't fight in Madison Square Garden.
00:44:27.000
Brock, you do your shit, I'm going to do my cocaina, and I'm going to be up all night long.
00:44:36.000
But if he just says to him, I don't give a fuck what you do, I'm going to beat your ass.
00:44:47.000
Brock gets up to 290, cuts down to 265. I don't know if Jon can fuck with that.
00:45:01.000
Overeem also fucked him up when he was Bane Brock.
00:45:03.000
Well, that was a crazy fight for him to take after recovering from surgery where he got 12 inches of his colon removed.
00:45:14.000
Kicked him in the gut like a straight-up murderer.
00:45:23.000
See, that is like, he's like one of the best arguments for no testing.
00:45:30.000
He's still kind of killing it with the gold testing, too.
00:45:35.000
Like, this Overeem, the heavyweight Grand Prix, K1 heavyweight Grand Prix Overeem, there's never been a fighter like that before.
00:45:45.000
You're never going to see that again, ever, in the UFC. Look at those physiques.
00:45:52.000
Like, you're never going to see these two again.
00:46:00.000
He's got some of the best knees in the business, man.
00:46:05.000
It's just, I miss this Overeem where he was just dominating people with power.
00:46:30.000
Like, when he was on steroids, good luck getting him to step an inch back.
00:46:39.000
I trained Todd for that fight, and I was supposed to corner him.
00:46:43.000
Todd Duffy was super promising before that fight.
00:47:05.000
Japan, what is it about calling people like a week before the fight going, what are you up to Saturday?
00:47:19.000
Because he had that UFC fight where he won, like, it was one of the fastest fights ever, won by knockout.
00:47:35.000
So he goes in there, and he fights Overeem at his most Overeem ever.
00:47:53.000
And then, when you think about him, like, bordering on both sports, right?
00:47:58.000
He's like K-1 Grand Prix champion, still fighting MMA. It's all like in the same time period.
00:48:04.000
And his striking is just off the charts because of it.
00:48:21.000
But you're right here, but I'm not backing up, too.
00:48:36.000
Well, he's also older, and he's taking more punishment, too.
00:48:40.000
You've got to think, the knockouts that he's had just in the UFC. Stipe knocked him unconscious.
00:48:52.000
He has more knockout losses than anyone in the UFC. Yeah.
00:49:05.000
I'm trying to think of other fights that he's had.
00:49:07.000
I'll tell you what, I'd love to see Overeem versus your boyfriend, Francis Ganell.
00:49:20.000
It was real rough, because he was standing up and Bigfoot teed off on him.
00:49:43.000
Yeah, he's fighting, uh, isn't that, uh, is that in Australia?
00:49:50.000
I'm surprised, yeah, he's still doing the damn thing.
00:49:52.000
You have a fucking Mark Hunt fight in New Zealand?
00:50:00.000
Tibor has, like, got sneaky, uh, sneaky left high kick.
00:50:03.000
Dude, these Russians and that whole area, these motherfuckers, they're already taking over boxing.
00:50:13.000
Well, you got Tony Furst and Kevin Lee now fighting for the interim title.
00:50:15.000
They just don't think Khabib can make the weight?
00:50:35.000
You know, it's like when you don't, you know you shouldn't be eating this, but you're like, fuck it.
00:50:41.000
And they go, well, we have world famous tiramisu.
00:50:55.000
My man Cam Haynes runs these ultra marathons every year.
00:50:59.000
Last year he ran the Bigfoot 2000 or 200. It's 205, 205 miles.
00:51:09.000
He cuts down from 180 pounds, which is what he weighs normally.
00:51:18.000
He works out and burns off more calories than he eats.
00:51:24.000
Yeah, he'll burn off 3,000 calories, eat 2,000.
00:51:53.000
Well, he's also a very strict Muslim, and so he celebrates Ramadan, which makes it a real issue for guys to fight.
00:52:02.000
Although, someone just did that in the UFC. Ramadan?
00:52:16.000
Bilal Muhammad went through Ramadan while he was training.
00:52:22.000
And he scheduled his training for after his meal.
00:52:26.000
With Khabib though, it's like, you know, at 55, it's kind of a clusterfuck there, and he's just getting left in the dust.
00:52:32.000
I think he has real issues with his body from losing extreme amounts of weight.
00:52:37.000
And listen, I love AK, and I think Crazy Bob Cook belongs in the UFC Hall of Fame, MMA Hall of Fame.
00:52:47.000
Yeah, but those boys, I don't know what's going on there with Kane.
00:52:54.000
At the top level of that, you have two of the best First of all, arguably the best heavyweight ever in Kane, and then you got one of the best light heavyweights ever in Daniel, and they're going to war all the time.
00:53:10.000
And they also, you only have a certain amount of years of being able to do that.
00:53:15.000
I mean, you can't just attribute that only to his training there, because there's some questionable weightlifting videos of him online.
00:53:25.000
It's like he's doing a kettlebell swing with shit form, and they're doing high reps of all kinds of weird shit.
00:53:35.000
But the thing is, a lot of MMA guys, if they don't come from a football background, most of them you're going to see lift like that, to be honest.
00:53:42.000
Well, the problem was he had a trainer, and people were feeling like the trainer was doing a shit job.
00:53:49.000
And I'm not blaming injuries and delays in fights on AKA, but I think, and it's not up to them, I think, again, like you were saying, you have the toughest guys in the world competing every day, you have Khabib, you have all these guys, and things are going to happen.
00:54:03.000
I think there's two different schools of thought, and I don't know who's right.
00:54:06.000
There's a school of thought where you just fucking go in there and you go to war all the time and the cream rises to the top and you get hardened by the combat and you come out of it the best fighter in the world.
00:54:20.000
But I think there's another way of looking at it.
00:54:23.000
Well, there's two different other ways of looking at it.
00:54:25.000
When you get to a Conor situation, then you get a super camp that's designed around you.
00:54:29.000
And then you get these people who are working with you on various aspects of your game.
00:54:34.000
Your sparring partners are planned accordingly.
00:54:37.000
There's a bunch of people that you work with that, you know, their goal is to get you better for this fight.
00:54:42.000
And I would say GSP is the one who really started that.
00:54:47.000
And I think these guys that are doing this today, you know, it's like, how do you do it?
00:54:54.000
Do you do it the old school way, which has always been proven?
00:54:57.000
You can make some tough motherfuckers that way.
00:54:59.000
Or do you do it the ATT way, where you have this gigantic program, where you have all world-class coaches and athletes, and you're putting together all these people, and you just have a giant super team.
00:55:17.000
We have a competition background, but the reason why ATT is so good, and they're killing it with Ioana, Jenjenczyk, with fucking Amanda Nunes, all their big athletes, Mike Brown, right?
00:55:31.000
To me, you know, he's definitely top three in the game right now.
00:55:35.000
But Mike Brown, really, he's the one who's focused on Ioana and Amanda Nunes, and he's focused on it because he's been there.
00:55:41.000
He's done those meathead days, and he's going...
00:55:45.000
So when you have someone, even Team Alpha Male, they don't have a ton of injuries, really.
00:55:49.000
Granted, Cody Garbrandt's having his things, but Uriah Faber, he's been through it.
00:55:52.000
So you need these younger guys who have been through it who are going to take control.
00:55:56.000
Who are saying, listen, we can't be Vanderlei Silva, man.
00:56:05.000
He goes, if you don't know how to hit at this level, you're not going to make it.
00:56:10.000
So you see this kind of trend happening with people who've been through it before.
00:56:19.000
You see this kind of guy's like, man, I can't be getting beat up in training anymore.
00:56:27.000
Big guys the size of mitt your own giving each other brain damage.
00:56:33.000
And I think when you see a guy like Connor with all the different experimenting that he does, with like weird movement stuff, with that Ido Portal guy.
00:56:44.000
Even the weird shit that he does, like when you see him like switching stances in the ring, switching stances like a Taekwondo guy.
00:56:52.000
All that weird shit, if he can do shit like that to Floyd, all that stuff that he's never seen before, sideways stance, you know, moving more like a karate fighter.
00:57:02.000
He's going to come out more karate than people are expecting.
00:57:04.000
I asked Pauly, you know, I said, you know, Pauly has his issues with him.
00:57:08.000
But how was, you know, how was his, was it as awkward as I'm predicting?
00:57:12.000
Because, you know, if Conor goes in and gets starched, my time, I'm out.
00:57:19.000
But he was saying, he was like, no, man, it's even more awkward than I thought.
00:57:32.000
Yeah, Polly's like, I have no idea who that is.
00:57:56.000
Shogun lost him, but they had that back and forth, right?
00:58:12.000
Yeah, and then he dropped down to 85. Looked great against Munoz.
00:58:15.000
There was a Leona Machida, like, when you say the air, I mean, you know, there's a run there.
00:58:21.000
He definitely changed a lot, but I thought he was going to go on a crazy run, man.
00:58:36.000
Okay, so he fought Rashad, and then he fought...
00:58:39.000
He fought Shogun next, but he should have lost that fight.
00:58:45.000
And then Shogun knocked him out in the rematch.
00:58:48.000
So remember, he beat Teo Ortiz, and that's real Teo Ortiz.
00:58:53.000
At the time, Thiago Silva was a straight savage.
00:58:59.000
Remember when he jump and front-kicked Randy in the face?
00:59:07.000
And then he fought John, beat Ryan Bader with that crazy knockout.
00:59:12.000
Ryan Bader ran into that crazy straight left hand.
00:59:16.000
That was here in LA. Then the Munoz fight, I remember that was in like London or something.
00:59:21.000
Dude, I remember Munoz found, I was training with Munoz, he found out through social media is fighting Machida.
00:59:39.000
And then he tested positive for something, right?
00:59:41.000
Yeah, and then I don't know exactly what he's doing now.
00:59:44.000
Yeah, man, you get a certain amount of knockouts against guys like Rockhold, and especially the Rockhold one was rough.
00:59:52.000
He's been doing karate since he was fucking three months old.
00:59:55.000
He's just been doing it for a long-ass time, man.
00:59:59.000
It's interesting, like, these guys like Vitor and him, where their technique is still there, their mind is still there, but their body just can't keep up anymore.
01:00:12.000
To me, when I watch his fight in Mexico City, and he's fighting on the undercard against Sam Alvey, I'm like, oh my god, man.
01:00:21.000
To see him, and I don't know if it's a matter of physical, but mentally you can tell he's just not there.
01:00:28.000
Not that he's punchy, but he just doesn't want to do anymore.
01:00:37.000
You go, okay, I'm not going to fight like that anymore.
01:00:39.000
That kind of caution the wind, let's go, let's sit in the pocket and bang.
01:00:45.000
And then Rashad just couldn't pull the trigger.
01:00:57.000
He's definitely had a great run, but he obviously enjoys doing it, or he wouldn't be still doing it, or he needs the money.
01:01:06.000
But the other thing with Rashad is the games advance so much further than wrestler with good boxing.
01:01:15.000
At light heavyweight, middleweight, welterweight, you go down, what?
01:01:22.000
A guy like Yard Rodriguez, all these young kids go...
01:01:29.000
I mean, remember he knocked out Sean Salmon with that high kick?
01:01:33.000
And Sean Salmon looked like every UPS driver we've ever had.
01:01:35.000
Yeah, but I would think that he would get better at that.
01:01:39.000
You know, and it just never became like a big part of his game.
01:01:42.000
His game was never like full-on Muay Thai oriented.
01:01:46.000
It's like the Chuck Liddell thing, you know, where sprawl and brawl.
01:01:54.000
I mean, Tyrone Spong is a fucking demon when it comes to his stand-up, man.
01:02:01.000
And this was at light heavyweight, which is interesting because all along a lot of people thought he should be at 185. Dude, he won the ultimate fight at heavyweight.
01:02:20.000
Yeah, high school, but then he wrestled at Michigan State.
01:02:27.000
And then the other roommate is a big agent at CA, which is hilarious.
01:02:31.000
You know, you remember his knockout of Chuck Liddell?
01:02:37.000
And the UFC really wouldn't play it because Chuck Liddell was like the main man.
01:02:40.000
Remember for a while there they wouldn't play the Chuck or Ronda knockouts?
01:02:42.000
Now you turn that bitch on and fuck, this is just a loop.
01:02:44.000
Well, once WMA became the owners, they were like, listen.
01:03:04.000
I think they showed the Chuck Liddell knockout.
01:03:06.000
They just didn't highlight it over and over and over again.
01:03:12.000
I remember the sound of that right-hand landing.
01:03:18.000
Chuck was going to throw an uppercut, his famous uppercut, and then just that.
01:03:22.000
And Rashad stepped over with an overhand right on the...
01:03:28.000
I remember Shah just turned to the crowd like his heart.
01:03:36.000
You know, Chuck, there's rumors Chuck wanted to fight again.
01:03:56.000
They're talking about Chuck and Tito again in Bellator.
01:04:09.000
He has a tube in his neck, but then Chael started talking shit to him.
01:04:34.000
If he could talk Chael into talking some shit about him and people want to see him get peed up again.
01:04:41.000
If you play the video, Jamie, it's somewhere on his Instagram.
01:04:47.000
Go to his whole thing and I'll show you where it is.
01:05:15.000
All my friends, family, thank you for your support.
01:05:26.000
Now it's time to get ready because, Chell, I'm kicking your ass.
01:05:41.000
You know, in the UFC, if you have more than two discs replaced, they don't think they're letting you fight right now?
01:05:56.000
If you get a certain amount, like if you've got one in your lower back, one in your neck, they're like, ooh, son, we're not sure if we want to fuck with this.
01:06:04.000
Well, who knows how good the guy did the neck thing?
01:06:14.000
UFC. Like, the one guy who we can trust before we shut down his career.
01:06:18.000
How many dudes are doing this neck reconstruction thing?
01:06:25.000
You know, Eddie's still having problems with it, though.
01:06:39.000
He was lifting weights really quickly and got back to rolling within a few months.
01:06:45.000
But with Tito, he's had so much abuse as far as wrestling and fighting.
01:07:02.000
How long does it take to recover from those surgeries?
01:07:04.000
I wonder because what Eddie was saying was that he might have pushed it too quick and re-injured it a little bit.
01:07:16.000
He's like drinking half his ass, and we're talking about it.
01:07:20.000
But if you're on the mats, you know, it's tough.
01:07:26.000
You know, I think the only thing you should do ever if you're injured is drill.
01:07:30.000
And just use it as a time to drill, because you can get really good.
01:07:35.000
But as soon as you're, like, if you're dealing with something that's recovering, like a surgery...
01:07:40.000
If you, like, have to explode and exert weird energy in weird ways, you never know.
01:07:55.000
You feel the back where you got surgery twinge again.
01:08:01.000
I'll tell you what's crazy, speaking of injuries, is when I saw Paddy Hooligan in Dublin, you know, and he's an outgoing, you know, smart dude, speaks well.
01:08:10.000
We're talking, I'm like, dude, so when's the next fight?
01:08:12.000
And this whole team was just like, goddammit, Shobb.
01:08:20.000
And it's really not that dangerous, but if it did, if something were to happen, it's like super dangerous.
01:08:42.000
So, is this concern if he needs a transfusion or something?
01:08:46.000
Yeah, something like that where the UFC is just too high of a risk, so he's done.
01:08:49.000
But he was opening a gym at SBG with Connor at their gym, and then he decided to do his own up the street.
01:09:11.000
He was born with a factor missing in his blood called Factor 13. I never disclosed it until now.
01:09:19.000
It came to the UFC's attention from a third party.
01:09:22.000
I can no longer pass the medical requirements to compete.
01:09:24.000
Only 1 in 5 million people are diagnosed, so I knew that it was rare.
01:09:29.000
Organizations wouldn't understand or take a chance at me.
01:09:31.000
As I found out now, I never explained in full to John or my team the actual risks because I didn't think there was excess risks.
01:09:41.000
So, if it's not, if he doesn't think there is an excess risk, it's a disorder that is only dangerous for me and not my opponents.
01:09:49.000
I really did see MMA as a way to have a real shot at life for myself and my family, and it turns out I was right.
01:09:59.000
But you talk about a guy who his spirits are super up.
01:10:09.000
But he was like, whoa, I'm doing my thing here at SPG. I got my own gym.
01:10:18.000
If you can get that good at fighting, you can get that good at anything.
01:10:26.000
A bleeding disorder characterized by a deficiency of clotting factor 13. Clotting factors are specialized proteins that are essential for the blood to clot properly.
01:10:38.000
Like, what if you get Marvin Eastman and the head starts pouring blood and they can't stop it?
01:10:45.000
You know, like, there's something about foreheads.
01:10:52.000
Like, think about how much more foreheads bleed than, like, a knee.
01:11:09.000
Do you know the odds on Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor are only four to one?
01:11:20.000
I think I had something to do with those odds swing.
01:11:55.000
Four Mayweather's at minus 450. You want to hear something hilarious?
01:11:59.000
Those odds are smaller than when he fought Canelo.
01:12:03.000
Those odds are changing because of the fucking video.
01:12:07.000
Well, that and just a matter of the amount of people were betting on Conor.
01:12:21.000
You don't even understand how you win a hundred bucks, most people.
01:12:24.000
I have to explain it every time we go to the UFC to set someone.
01:12:27.000
Yeah, I bet when the odds first came out, I fucked up.
01:12:33.000
It's always so weird when you see the numbers, like, plus 450. Like, how?
01:12:40.000
If they open with an odd, that's when it gets really crazy.
01:12:45.000
They do it on purpose because they want betting.
01:12:48.000
So they do it on purpose to get people to go, here's a show.
01:12:50.000
Floyd loves this because Floyd always bets on himself and a shitload of money.
01:12:55.000
Did you see footage came out that, not footage, but news leaked, and I think it's all honeydicking, that Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather in training and Floyd shut down the gym.
01:13:14.000
I think Floyd's just trying to sell this to the max.
01:13:22.000
How close is he with Zab Judah that they would organize that?
01:13:24.000
I mean, Zab Judah's like, I'll take that shine.
01:13:26.000
When's the last time you mentioned the name Zab Judah?
01:13:30.000
Word from inside the money team, Zab Judah knocked out Floyd Mayweather in sparring during a wild exchange where both boxers began to brawl.
01:13:37.000
Apparently Floyd kicked everyone out of the gym afterwards, more to come.
01:13:40.000
Zab was mimicking Connor and just came right after him.
01:13:51.000
That glamour shot headshot bothers the fuck out of me.
01:14:03.000
He's probably a pretty sensible guy that you can have a conversation with.
01:14:13.000
I think literally Floyd's just playing this full heel.
01:14:20.000
Or Zab Judah and him might have gone to war because he does go to war in gyms.
01:14:25.000
I mean, you've seen him talk shit and go to war with people in sparring sessions.
01:14:34.000
Yeah, he cracked Floyd a few times when they fought, if you remember that.
01:14:39.000
Floyd Mayweather and Zab Judah unleash chaos in Las Vegas.
01:14:46.000
Looks back at the tempered battle between Mayweather and the current sparring partner, Zab Judah.
01:14:56.000
If he hasn't lost a step, and they actually did get into a wild exchange, and Floyd got crazy, it is entirely possible...
01:15:08.000
But I mean, as far as his speed and power, I bet it's still there.
01:15:11.000
I bet his timing, what I'm trying to say, you're right.
01:15:14.000
Losing a step is probably not the best way to describe it, but he's still got his skills, he's still got some serious power.
01:15:21.000
And if he drops a bomb on Floyd, if they really did have some crazy exchange, it's 100% possible that you could imagine a guy like Zav Judah at least knocking down Floyd.
01:15:29.000
I'll tell you this, if he did get knocked out a week before the fight, and you're fighting coming next Saturday, we're going sizzler.
01:15:39.000
The same story kind of happened before the Pacquiao Mayweather fight.
01:15:46.000
Zabjuda denies flooring Mayweather during sparring.
01:15:52.000
He's probably so comfortable with being there with Floyd.
01:15:55.000
He's boxed Floyd professionally as a fighter and as his training partner.
01:16:04.000
And who knows, also, you know, like, who knows how seriously Floyd's taking this?
01:16:11.000
That's the other thing, is like, rumors coming out, like, again, these are all rumors.
01:16:26.000
That motherfucker looks like he's on that Brock Lesnar diet.
01:16:37.000
That's the only way McGregor's going to win, I think.
01:16:48.000
You're living in a wrong fucking planet if you think he's gonna help boxing for 12 rounds.
01:16:53.000
Unless he figures out a way to maul him like he's doing there.
01:16:55.000
Like he's doing there with holding the back of the head and throwing punches.
01:17:00.000
I think you're gonna see Connor using his footwork still the distance, trying to still do what got him to the dance.
01:17:08.000
What if he drops one on Floyd and Floyd goes stiff?
01:17:16.000
So I think Connor wins the spectacle, but probably loses in the decision.
01:17:20.000
But if there is a stoppage, it's Connor knocking them out.
01:17:23.000
Well, you know, we were talking today about them going to eight-ounce gloves and how significant that is.
01:17:30.000
First of all, it shows you can just pull those commissioners aside and go, what?
01:17:42.000
I wonder if WME came along, like, when they bought the UFC, they'd be like, uh, what's with the USADA guy?
01:17:53.000
Listen, let's just direct that guy towards weight cutting.
01:17:56.000
Can you just have them, like, focus on the guys in the undercards?
01:18:10.000
Andre Berto said when he fought Floyd, he's never been tested more in his life.
01:18:14.000
He was like four times a week there to knock on my door.
01:18:36.000
I don't know what the drug testing is like on this bad boy, but...
01:18:39.000
Well, the Canelo-Alvarez fight, it was interesting, because he made Canelo get down to 150. You know, they fought at 150, and Canelo just makes people come to him.
01:18:52.000
That's why I tip my hat to Floyd, because he went, I'll fight at 154. That's perfect for Conor.
01:19:10.000
First of all, Connor is, whether or not you're looking at his success inside the octagon, which has been pretty spectacular, but it's the way he's doing things.
01:19:20.000
He's got this special fucking air about him and this psychotic belief in himself.
01:19:31.000
He's trying to manifest some sort of miraculous existence.
01:19:36.000
He's trying to be the guy who literally goes in there and drops and smashes Floyd Mayweather as a UFC fighter and becomes, with that, the biggest athlete on the planet Earth ever.
01:19:52.000
If he flatlines Floyd Mayweather, if Floyd Mayweather steps in, and Conor fucking karate stances him, and blasts him with a straight left hand, and we see Floyd stiffen up and faceplant.
01:20:08.000
We're gonna manufacture all of the color, that green color that you put in drinks on Save Patrick's Day.
01:20:21.000
You're gonna have people that are faking Irish accents.
01:20:25.000
It's sort of like that Rachel Dolezal chick pretending to be black.
01:20:29.000
There's gonna be people that are changing but put an O on the beginning.
01:20:33.000
Yeah, they're gonna change themselves and become Irish.
01:20:53.000
For St. Patrick's Day, let's have some fun and get fucking hammered and make the ocean green.
01:21:21.000
Meet the family that dives the Chicago River green.
01:21:29.000
I wonder if there's some environmentalists that are protesting.
01:21:38.000
Why don't you Google environmentalist protest green dye in Chicago River?
01:21:45.000
Let's see if there's some environmentalists that think it's a fucking terrible idea.
01:21:55.000
How about you tell us what the fuck the top secret formula is before you jump in the river?
01:21:59.000
And take that sweater off right now with your tits.
01:22:09.000
That looks like the kind of guy who kills a burger with his bare hands, though.
01:22:12.000
He looks like the kind of guy that kills millions of fish by dumping green dye in the goddamn river.
01:22:32.000
He's gonna be worldwide in the craziest way possible.
01:22:35.000
You're gonna see a Nike shoe like a drawing, but with this on it.
01:22:38.000
If he actually can land that shit, there's the thing, nobody's gonna ever box Floyd like that from a karate stance.
01:22:46.000
And he's been doing a lot of that taekwondo footwork thing where he switches back and forth, switches stances.
01:22:51.000
If he can keep that kind of distance, it's gonna be very hard for Floyd to hit him, too.
01:22:58.000
The only thing, I think, worst case scenario, obviously worst case if you get starched in like 10 seconds, that's not going to happen.
01:23:04.000
But worst case would be with 8-ounce gloves, if Floyd starts landing and beating him up, and he gets stopped in like 7th or 8th or can't answer the bell because he's taking so much punishment, or in 8 rounds he gets really tired from moving so much, then it could be a shit show for us.
01:23:17.000
Yeah, it's a different expenditure of energy for sure.
01:23:21.000
Switching legs like that and switching stances.
01:23:25.000
You don't get to Conor's level without realizing what you're signing up for.
01:23:29.000
To me, if Conor were to gas in this fight, then everything we believe in Conor is fake, which I don't think is going to happen.
01:23:36.000
Well, the only other explanation would be he's not quite efficient enough yet to go 12 rounds of the world champion, if he really started gas.
01:23:45.000
You're talking about something that he has a part of his training.
01:23:50.000
But it's also kicking, takedown defense, jiu-jitsu, elbows, knees.
01:23:59.000
Like in boxing, which is why I think Conor's going to win a majority of those early rounds.
01:24:04.000
Floyd, four, five, six rounds before he's really even starts sweating.
01:24:12.000
He comes out and he'll force you to come to him and he's looking around.
01:24:16.000
He's literally downloading everything, but it takes him a while to get going before he gets it and then starts going to work.
01:24:21.000
With Connor, I think in those rounds he can land something big there, man.
01:24:31.000
That's what's going to make it the biggest pay-per-view of all time.
01:24:34.000
Those white power people are going to go crazy.
01:24:36.000
That Twitter account is a fake account, apparently.
01:24:40.000
It's not a real newspaper, and some people have found out that the picture is even like a small business owner from somewhere else.
01:25:08.000
I just Googled Las Vegas Post and nothing comes up.
01:25:15.000
It might just be somebody just going for clicks, you know, having some fun.
01:25:23.000
But, you know, like, my mom will be like, why have you gotten knocked out buying it?
01:25:32.000
Looking at the video of Connor Landon on Paula.
01:25:44.000
From what I heard, they thought that footage was going to make it in all access, and Dana was like, yeah, put in all access of Connor doing what he did to Paul, and they didn't put it in there, so Dana was like, release the hounds, and then release it on his end.
01:26:00.000
Okay, why would Showtime not want to put it in there?
01:26:09.000
They're just like, we're not putting it in all access.
01:26:19.000
Yeah, and then Dana was like, oh, you're not going to do it?
01:26:42.000
Even though it shows a clear loss, in those exchanges, there was a clear loser and a clear winner.
01:26:49.000
It doesn't mean the entire sparring session was, and we won't know that until after the fight.
01:26:53.000
And most knowledgeable fighting fans know that.
01:26:56.000
Like, oh, that's a part of it, but shit, Conor can actually hit.
01:27:01.000
And even if you're a boxing fan, you're like, holy shit, that's Paulie Malignaggi.
01:27:11.000
I'm going to buy it from fucking D.C. I'm going to be in Washington, D.C. Yeah, you're working that night, right?
01:27:18.000
Yeah, they asked me to do something for Showtime.
01:27:27.000
I'm on the whole coverage team with Showtime Tuesday through Saturday.
01:27:34.000
Honestly, dude, I really feel like if they were smart, like this is, this kind of shit, like the kind of shit that we do, when you and I just sit down and talk, this is really what they need.
01:27:45.000
You get a bunch of goofy people sitting around with ties on in some circle, and everyone's talking over everybody.
01:27:50.000
And there's a production meeting, and you say this, and you say this, I agree.
01:27:53.000
Yeah, and there's Mauro, and then there's fucking two or three boxers, and everyone's...
01:28:02.000
It's not, in my opinion, it's not the most entertaining way to listen to people break down shit.
01:28:08.000
And this is a fight where you really want to consider all the different possibilities.
01:28:14.000
Like, Max Kellerman is always saying, like, Floyd has the advantage.
01:28:17.000
If they're fighting on the moon, Floyd has the advantage.
01:28:25.000
It's the Skip Bayless method where it's going to make headlines.
01:28:32.000
I think he's so, so old school boxing, he has to say that.
01:28:40.000
Kind of, but I think with Floyd, he's very smart.
01:28:49.000
When it comes to boxing, when he goes, Conor's not going to hit him, and I was like, no disrespect, I bet you $100,000.
01:28:56.000
Open a joint account, send it to his team, like, this is how serious I am.
01:29:02.000
Man, it could happen that Floyd just storms out and fucking one-punch KOs him.
01:29:05.000
My thing with Showtime, I had this chat with Espinoza about it, and I said, I don't know what, you know, I know I'm going to be part of it, I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
01:29:12.000
I said, but what you have going on is you have your traditional boxing commentators.
01:29:16.000
Which is great, and that's usually what you do.
01:29:19.000
You cannot have a biased panel who don't know anything about Conor McGregor.
01:29:23.000
Yeah, they looked his fights up or whatever, or they just mimic or say what they've heard previously, but they really don't know what Conor's doing.
01:29:30.000
You have to have someone, whether it's me or not, but I think it's going to be me, you have to have someone telling you what Conor's doing, what he needs to do to win the fight.
01:29:38.000
You can't have just a pro-biased boxing commentating team.
01:29:43.000
Because what's going to make this the biggest pay-per-view of all time is the UFC fans.
01:29:48.000
We're the ones that are going to buy this bitch.
01:29:50.000
The old boxing heads, look at Triple G, that's your best boxer.
01:29:56.000
Yeah, but Andre Ward is right up there with him, and Andre Ward gets way more.
01:30:09.000
That's it, but still 100 more than Triple G. Still!
01:30:14.000
And I'm saying, so Dana White, the UFC, Conor McGregor, that fan base, the UFC fan base, is like nothing else, man.
01:30:23.000
So you can't have just a bias box in Conor McGregor.
01:30:29.000
I'll put a picture of me lifting weights in the back.
01:30:35.000
So that's basically the same as Triple G. In the ward, Kovalev 2 does around 125,000 pay-per-view buys.
01:30:54.000
So the most it did, it said it pulls in $165,000.
01:31:04.000
And the other one is June 27th and it said $165,000.
01:31:19.000
And you paid Andre Ward six and a half million dollars.
01:31:24.000
And you're talking about one of the best fights of all, especially the years.
01:31:29.000
What was more troubling not only the pay-per-view buys down, but attendance numbers and gate revenue at Mandalay Bay Event Center in Las Vegas was not even close to matching the first bout, which has held at T-Mobile Arena.
01:31:46.000
So if you're going to make this the biggest paper of all time, you've got to bank on the mixed martial arts crowd buying this thing.
01:31:53.000
So if you want them to buy it, they're going to buy it for Conor anyways, but you've got to have a voice in there that's at least going to relate to the people.
01:32:01.000
The Andre Berto fight, which was the retirement fight for Floyd.
01:32:07.000
When you're considering that he got 4 million for the Manny Pacquiao fight, right?
01:32:14.000
So he goes from the biggest of all time to a fight where 300,000 people buy it, which is like...
01:32:21.000
The only people are buying Floyd Mayweather fights are people that want to see Floyd Mayweather get fucked up.
01:32:27.000
And when he doesn't get fucked up, they go, damn.
01:32:30.000
See, even Floyd apologized for the Pacquiao fight.
01:32:37.000
Well, it was crazy because Pacquiao was injured.
01:32:39.000
You know, Pacquiao fought that fight with a fucked up shoulder.
01:32:44.000
Hey, Pacquiao, I guarantee your ass it's more entertaining than your fight with Floyd.
01:32:51.000
Yeah, because he just lost to fucking homeboy, Horn, in Australia, and he has to rematch him.
01:33:01.000
I don't know if that was the correct decision, because I didn't try to score that for him.
01:33:09.000
But when I was watching it with my girl, I looked at her and went, God, I feel like Horn might have pulled that off.
01:33:14.000
I'm like, yeah, you can't listen to the commentators.
01:33:25.000
Horn in the, I think it was the 10th round, they almost stopped it.
01:33:30.000
One of those rounds, they were like, hey, if you don't show some improvement here, we're going to stop the fight.
01:33:36.000
But still, the culmination of all the rounds, I thought Horn pulled it off.
01:33:44.000
You're going to hate on Mayweather and fucking Conor.
01:33:49.000
He's still salty because also he's got class action lawsuits against him because he fought with a fucked up shoulder and a lot of people bet on him.
01:33:58.000
If you're a fan and you know that the guy came into the fight compromised, get that paycheck.
01:34:04.000
But at the same time, a lot of fighters fight with injuries, right?
01:34:22.000
Well, I think he figured, well, I'm gonna fuck it up.
01:34:27.000
Go in there and sling bombs, and hopefully I'll catch him.
01:34:31.000
Well, it's just, I think he was really compromised in his movement, you know?
01:34:37.000
I think his style in particular, he's much shorter and smaller than Conor.
01:34:41.000
He's very fast, but, you know, he's also been knocked out by Manuel Marquez.
01:34:45.000
When Juan Manuel Marquez knocked him out with that one-punch, fucking devastating, ba-blam, KO. The earth, like, literally stood still for a second when that happened.
01:34:54.000
Dude, I mean, that was as clean a one-punch knockout as you're ever going to see.
01:35:01.000
Perhaps Marquez was on the supplements of his home country.
01:35:06.000
I think there's Filipino steroids in that bitch.
01:35:11.000
That was always the argument about Manny, is that Manny had gone up so many different weight classes and kept his power.
01:35:25.000
I mean, look, the deal is that you pass the tests.
01:35:29.000
Even if they're not testing it, I don't give a fuck.
01:35:31.000
You're fighting Marquez, who's clearly on this Tijuana tamale fucking protein powder.
01:35:47.000
What's crazy is that dude, Juan Manuel Marquez, had the same trainer that used to be a trainer for Manny.
01:36:04.000
He had Manny doing a bunch of really interesting stuff.
01:36:09.000
He got busted before for, like, injecting the Bane stuff.
01:36:19.000
I know he's supposed to be a really good trainer regardless.
01:36:24.000
When you've got a guy like Floyd or Juan Manuel Marquez or anybody, or Manny...
01:36:36.000
Yeah, I mean, you got to make sure that tires are good, suspension's tight, and, like, you're a physical conditioning trainer.
01:36:42.000
You can't fuck the guy up too bad by the time he gets to his boxing skill work.
01:36:48.000
No, but also, if we're racing cars, and you know a homeboy over here put a V12 in his.
01:36:56.000
By V12s, I mean, let's get that Filipino hot sauce.
01:37:08.000
And remember, he was at strip clubs, wiling out, very John Jones-ish.
01:37:12.000
And then his wife was like, this shit has to stop.
01:37:15.000
And then he got flatlined, and he's like, Jesus, let's do it.
01:37:18.000
He started dressing all weird, running for government and shit.
01:37:25.000
I don't know if that's the best thing for fighters, man.
01:37:29.000
The problem is, especially now with testing, you know, they show up at your house and knock on your door, you've got to be clean.
01:37:35.000
Unless you've got a rubber dick and a really good friend, give you some blood.
01:37:40.000
Yeah, you've got to have a twin and have that twin live a steady, healthy diet and just don't tell anybody about them.
01:37:50.000
Look at him there against Marco Santonio Barrera.
01:38:08.000
When he first started out, I think he started out as a flyweight.
01:38:23.000
I'm pretty sure he went through eight different weight classes, which is crazy.
01:38:43.000
What's interesting is that it's actually gonna happen.
01:38:48.000
And I don't mean that disrespectfully, like that it's not a real contest.
01:38:56.000
Obviously it is from a betting perspective, and obviously it is because Conor is a real combat sports world champion, but it's a freak show in that.
01:39:07.000
It's not like if Conor fought Rafael dos Anjos at 170. It's a fight.
01:39:16.000
I wonder if it's, you know, they were supposed to fight at 155. I wonder if Dos Anjos can figure, you know, if that kind of thing happens, that's an interesting fight.
01:39:33.000
When's the last time there was a fight like this where it was made by the people?
01:39:42.000
Randy Couture, but James was well past his prime and really didn't train for it at all.
01:39:50.000
It's a video of James Toney preparing for the Randy Couture fight, and he was way out of shape, and he was just kind of like hitting pads, and the guy would shoot the worst double leg takedown on him in the history of the known universe, and James would kind of sprawl,
01:40:06.000
and he'd be like, yeah, I'm working on my grappling, you know, working on my boxing, working on my boxing.
01:40:14.000
But that's the boxing experts like, I mean, it's like James Toney coming to your world.
01:40:22.000
He came in out of shape, didn't respect the game, just kind of was doing it for the paycheck.
01:40:27.000
It's like if Anthony Joshua gets, you know, if he's got an actual black belt in jiu-jitsu we don't know about, and then decides to fight MMA. But he's already Anthony Joshua.
01:40:42.000
Yes, there's some X-Factors like, I don't know, but I know he does these two things very damn well.
01:40:58.000
Like, the one thing about Kahn is he 100% believes he's going to win this fight.
01:41:02.000
Which is, when you got a guy like that and he has momentum on his side and you got the fucking nation of Ireland behind you, God, man.
01:41:10.000
And also, Floyd legitimately is almost 41. Like, I think he might be 41 at the fight.
01:41:16.000
Like, I think, like, his birthday happens between...
01:41:23.000
He turned 41. That picture released on Instagram, though, I was like, he does not look 41. Yeah, he's great.
01:41:34.000
So when he gets to be whatever the age is when the wheels fall off.
01:41:42.000
Yeah, who knows what happens if he gets dinged.
01:41:46.000
Because if it's Floyd in his heyday, yeah, I kind of didn't stand a chance.
01:41:55.000
Maidana came in fucking winging bombs at Floyd.
01:41:58.000
And the first fight, Floyd kind of, I think maybe either underestimated him or didn't understand the style that he was going to present.
01:42:07.000
He got clipped with one punch at the end of one of the rounds where his legs wobbled.
01:42:13.000
And then, remember, Floyd did the rematch and kind of picked him apart.
01:42:18.000
I just think he underestimated, didn't take him serious.
01:42:20.000
It's possible, or it's possible Maidana fought really well in the first fight and didn't fight so well in the second fight for various reasons.
01:42:28.000
Yeah, but the only thing with that is Conor's so much different than Maidana.
01:42:34.000
And he's also, he's very capable of doing weird shit.
01:42:50.000
That's not something a lot of people are capable of doing under fire.
01:42:55.000
Especially the stakes and your margin of error in mixed martial arts is so much smaller than boxing.
01:43:01.000
You know, it's his timing that makes him special.
01:43:07.000
I just think Conor's timing with the speed and power.
01:43:12.000
If Floyd sleeps on him at all, and Conor comes in and does something very unusual and catches Floyd with a big punch early, it could be chaos.
01:43:28.000
So, like, why has boxing decided that 8 ounces are what's safe for everybody 135 pounds and up?
01:43:37.000
8 ounces what's safe for anybody 135 pounds and down.
01:43:42.000
It's not shit, but also, those boxing gloves, man, 10 ounces, when you got the wrap on, I mean, you have clubs on your hands, man.
01:43:50.000
It's just protecting you from not breaking them.
01:44:03.000
It's going to be real weird until we see what happens.
01:44:07.000
And the odds are that it's going to happen, but I just don't see it, man.
01:44:11.000
If he really does start fighting like this, though, ooh, that would be weird.
01:44:19.000
Those first four rounds, people, hopefully whoever you're watching with, people are just silent.
01:44:25.000
Just, what in the fuck are we seeing right now?
01:44:27.000
Well, Floyd is also a counter-striker, and so is Conor.
01:44:30.000
But if Conor starts doing some weird karate shit, and gets him on his heels, gets him moving back, and it's somehow or another...
01:44:38.000
Can get him into some weird position where he can move faster than Floyd understands.
01:44:43.000
Or he could close the distance quicker than Floyd expects.
01:44:47.000
I go, Pauly, I know you guys hate each other and all that, but when you're sparring, were there things that were landing?
01:44:52.000
He did some things that were unexpected and definitely landed.
01:44:57.000
I'm like, man, the thing with Conor is if he has that in his bag, his bag of tricks, when he throws it, it has to count.
01:45:04.000
Because as soon as you throw it, Floyd's going to go, got it!
01:45:31.000
If you've ever seen his training, stuff like that, after every session, his hands are in pure ice, and then he has the masseuse at night massages his hands.
01:46:06.000
If Conor recognizes that his hand's broken and he starts talking to him.
01:46:10.000
All you have is a jab and he starts shuffling, putting his hands behind his back.
01:46:23.000
And then he just annihilates Floyd, just walking him down.
01:46:27.000
Isn't it interesting, like, people were really mad at him for calling Floyd boy.
01:46:32.000
You can call each other bitch, motherfucker, but don't say boy.
01:46:40.000
With Andre Berto, I was like, I kept saying homeboy.
01:46:43.000
Then when he left, I was like, hashtag no racist, hashtag no racist.
01:46:51.000
Hey, homeboy, you gotta really figure this out.
01:46:55.000
Like, you can't have any pause between home and boy.
01:46:58.000
Listen, homeboy, yeah, you can't say that to a black guy.
01:47:06.000
Because, like, with Berto, he said something like, oh, that's my boy.
01:47:18.000
Like any word that's close, it's like, what did you say?
01:47:29.000
Like, did you see Cody Garbrandt kept calling Sterling Boy on social media?
01:47:44.000
If Al Jermaine started talking shit about Cody, that boy can't touch me.
01:47:52.000
Well, but black people can use the N-word in boy, right?
01:47:55.000
Because they went through some shit to earn that title.
01:48:04.000
Boy was probably always used, especially down south, as a derogatory term for young black men.
01:48:11.000
The white people would always say, hey boy, grown men.
01:48:15.000
All those fucking Home Depot candle carrying douchebags fucked up boy.
01:48:29.000
Hang out with white people just for that reason.
01:48:43.000
He's like, wait, all right, boy, keep fighting.
01:49:05.000
Bro was like the 70s, back when they had platform shoes on and fucking bell bottoms and shit.
01:49:21.000
You're B-R-A-H. I'm talking B-R-U-H. That's bruh.
01:49:27.000
Yeah, that's like from Ice-T. I think he probably invented that.
01:49:43.000
Bro became like guys who wear loafers and go to private schools.
01:49:55.000
But now it's a bad connotation because you go, oh my god, there's such bros over there.
01:50:01.000
Like as soon as someone goes, oh, they're such bros.
01:50:03.000
Like I know exactly what they're talking about.
01:50:15.000
It's a funny thing, but it's anti-male in a lot of ways, and it's really rude, but they get upset if you mock anyone that's transgender or anyone that's a woman or anyone that's gay, but they have no problem calling us bros.
01:50:33.000
They have no problem shitting on the very essence of being a man is bro-ing out.
01:50:46.000
I mean, if I post a picture on this podcast and went, me and my bros, we're getting roasted.
01:50:53.000
It's become that way over the last few years when so many douchebags use bro.
01:51:00.000
A lot of tools did it because they took it over and used it.
01:51:03.000
We're being generous and including ourselves and the rest of the men who fucked it up.
01:51:13.000
Brother's like, you can't just throw the term brother around.
01:51:16.000
A guy I barely know tonight won't be like, oh, what's up, brother?
01:51:21.000
Unless you're so friendly, you want everybody to be your brother.
01:51:26.000
Ah, man, I don't trust a guy who uses brother just with anyone.
01:51:35.000
You know, at the meet and greets I say, bro, what's up, brother?
01:51:46.000
Hey, man, what do you think about this Tony Ferguson-Kevin Lee fight?
01:51:53.000
He took Michael Chiesa's back and strangled him like that.
01:51:59.000
Maybe he would have survived, but the bottom line is that shit was locked up and it should have never gotten locked up.
01:52:04.000
Well, where I come from, when you go like this and then your body goes limp, you're about to go out.
01:52:08.000
Well, he was saying that he was just concentrating on his neck, just flexing his neck.
01:52:12.000
I'll just pretend I was asleep when no gear punched me in the face.
01:52:14.000
But no, for real, if a guy's really good at getting choked, and he can figure out how to kind of tuck his chin and flex his neck and just ride out the choke, and if he thinks he's got enough air...
01:52:46.000
I'd say he's a black belt level grappler in the UFC. Yeah, I agree.
01:52:51.000
I know high level competition black belts where if a blue belt gets on your back and they have a full sunken and rear naked choke, there's not much you're going to do.
01:52:59.000
You can hand fight, but if it's actually in, you're fucked.
01:53:02.000
Especially a strong, athletic guy like Kevin Lee.
01:53:09.000
I just feel like Kevin Lee, man, I think the division needs him, too.
01:53:13.000
He dresses well, speaks well, he's exciting to watch, you know?
01:53:17.000
The mistake that Mario made in stopping that fight before, in absolute conclusion, is a big mistake.
01:53:30.000
Because now we have to have this argument, and then Kevin Lee's like, nah, he's choking him out.
01:53:38.000
Because if Chiesa just did go out unconscious, then we got no debate, and then Kevin Lee has this amazing, clean win, and there's no bullshit attached to it.
01:53:46.000
To me, it was an amazing, clean win, and we just moved on.
01:53:49.000
I went, Mario fucked up, but he was going out anyways.
01:53:53.000
Because they went, here's an interim fight against Tony Ferguson.
01:53:58.000
It's a good move, too, because Tony and Kevin Lee were jawing back and forth with each other.
01:54:09.000
He's one of those guys that you see from his first fight to the UFC, you see these giant leaps.
01:54:17.000
Kiesa 5, I thought, was going to give him a lot of problems.
01:54:19.000
When he took him, got his back, I was like, Jesus Christ, man.
01:54:22.000
And Kiesa landed a left hand on him, but when I watched it over in the replay, you know, sometimes when you're seeing it live, too, you're looking through the fence.
01:54:30.000
It's hard to tell what lands, what doesn't land.
01:54:35.000
And then, you know, once they got to the ground, it was crazy that he took Kiesa's back and he dominated the positions.
01:54:42.000
The other thing I find interesting is Kevin Lee wants to fight Khabib.
01:54:46.000
After every fight for the past three fights, he's like, I want Khabib in Russia.
01:54:54.000
Ask to fight the scariest fucking guy in the game.
01:54:57.000
But the thing about Khabib is, I don't know where his body's at.
01:55:07.000
He's cutting so much weight that his body literally was shutting down.
01:55:11.000
If a fucking Russian goes to the hospital before a fight, we got some serious problems.
01:55:18.000
Where he didn't cut weight right and cut too much too soon.
01:55:20.000
And it's not even that they cancel the five-round fight for the interim title and have a three-round fight for a catch weight.
01:55:30.000
The commissioner was like, nah man, his liver's shutting down.
01:55:32.000
This is why when people are like, oh, we got Khabib vs.
01:55:41.000
You can go on a world tour against the biggest name ever in mixed martial arts and Conor McGregor.
01:55:47.000
You think Conor's just going to commit to that?
01:55:52.000
Not only that, Michael Johnson fight with Khabib apparently had the same issue, but he got through it.
01:55:57.000
Like, they're saying it's the same thing that happened in the Michael Johnson fight.
01:56:00.000
So this means, like, as every weight cut you do, especially as you get older, apparently your body resists.
01:56:15.000
Kat Zingano was talking about chicks gaining weight in between fights.
01:56:20.000
How about you cut all that weight and fuck your body up?
01:56:23.000
For a woman, getting that low in weight and body fat is probably even more fucked up.
01:56:29.000
My sister-in-law, my brother's wife, she did competition where she cut weight, and her thyroid just fucks their bodies up.
01:56:37.000
Oh, when they're doing the bodybuilding competition?
01:56:41.000
Like, for the girls, like, you know, some of these girls you'll see in the UFC, like, the day of the fight, like, god damn, that's a supermodel.
01:56:48.000
When you see her three weeks later, like, god damn!
01:56:51.000
How does Pazer and Zane look like Adele right now?
01:56:55.000
Like, it's literally like their body just goes poof.
01:56:57.000
Well, their body just probably really resists that weight cut.
01:57:06.000
He starts thinking, we've got to retain some water on this bitch.
01:57:08.000
Cat's looking for that cyborg fight, but cyborg's trying to fight Holly in Matt's Square Garden.
01:57:15.000
I talked to Cyborg two days ago, and she's like, man, Holly, Matt Squiregarn, that's what I want.
01:57:22.000
Holly is coming off that Jermaine Durandamay fight, which she cracked with that high kick.
01:57:32.000
But Betch Cohea was really not in her league, in my opinion.
01:57:38.000
She cracked Jermaine Durandamy with that high kick and then dropped her with that straight left hand.
01:57:42.000
Jermaine Durandamy is as legit a striker as you're ever going to see in women's MMA. As long as she's not fine cyborg.
01:57:52.000
Have you ever seen anything like that ever in mixed martial arts?
01:57:58.000
Went radio silent for fucking six months and then came back and was like, she did stuff like 10 years ago.
01:58:04.000
I'm going to cut down to fucking 135. Well, when I was talking to her post-fight and I said, well, what about Cyborg?
01:58:09.000
And I was asking her and doing the post-fight interview and she's like, man...
01:58:18.000
If you do have a hurt hand, which I believe she probably absolutely did, now's the time to do it.
01:58:32.000
But she vacated the title because she's like, nah, I'm not going to do that.
01:58:39.000
135. She's fighting at 135. She vacated the belt, was like, nah, we're good.
01:58:43.000
Holly for Cyborg's an interesting fight, because I think stylistically, Holly's the perfect matchup to beat Cyborg.
01:58:49.000
I don't think she beats her, but style-wise, she's made to beat Cyborg.
01:58:58.000
She's the greatest mixed martial artist of all time.
01:59:03.000
So she beats the greatest something, the greatest of all time.
01:59:16.000
She was whooping her ass for five rounds and then just got choked out at the end.
01:59:22.000
You beat Ronda, who was undefeated at the time.
01:59:26.000
If she beats Cyborg and Misha comes back and fights her again, that's a giant fight.
01:59:35.000
She's like, God, this UFC tonight kick is lame.
01:59:42.000
Beach Tate's still first team all cutie up there.
01:59:55.000
But with Holly, if Holly can somehow, again, I don't think she's going to, but you never know.
02:00:01.000
I didn't think she was really going to beat Ronda.
02:00:03.000
But if she somehow can pull it off and beat Cyborg and she beat Ronda...
02:00:08.000
Do we just give her some weird statue in front of the UFC gym now?
02:00:13.000
Don't you think that in their eyes, there's always going to be...
02:00:17.000
Even though she beat Ronda, Ronda's the one that put the thing on the map.
02:00:26.000
I think she has such a crash landing, like the worst of all time, and she's gone radio silent, that we don't remember that climb.
02:00:34.000
Do you think people are upset at her, like you weren't really a fighter?
02:00:39.000
If you were really a fighter, you'd still be there.
02:00:50.000
They thought you were one thing, and you fail at it.
02:00:57.000
For sure, and you're not doing what they wanted you to do.
02:00:59.000
You talked about being a do-nothing bitch, and now you get knocked out, and you're doing nothing.
02:01:06.000
Well, she was hosting Battle of the Network Stars.
02:01:16.000
I mean, I could see not wanting to fight anymore, right?
02:01:18.000
You didn't want to fight anymore at a certain point in time.
02:01:37.000
I can't believe they talked into doing that either.
02:01:42.000
And also, maybe she made so much money, like maybe she's good there too.
02:01:49.000
Yeah, everybody thinks that that's going to be enough to make you happy.
02:01:53.000
It'll definitely be you in a position where you don't have to worry about bills.
02:01:58.000
Now, maybe that's your number one problem, and then you're going to be happier.
02:02:02.000
Once you check that off, the other problems start to come up.
02:02:05.000
You're like, all right, now what am I going to do?
02:02:09.000
There was a study on income, and one of the things they said was when it comes to overall happiness, see if you can find this, I think they said everything over $70,000 a year is kind of a washout.
02:02:29.000
When you go from a car and just buy another car and you have two cars, nothing.
02:02:39.000
The perfect salary for happiness is $75,000 a year.
02:02:42.000
Wouldn't it depend where you live and what you like to do?
02:02:46.000
For like, the magic income, as people earn more, their day-to-day happiness rises until you hit $75,000.
02:02:53.000
After that, it's just more stuff with no gain in happiness.
02:02:58.000
That's someone who's never had a really cool car.
02:03:02.000
You never like had a deck that overlooks the mountain where you grill with your buddies.
02:03:07.000
You've never been able to go on these dope ass vacations.
02:03:11.000
Travel to Japan, get some sushi fresh out of the fucking ocean by some master chef.
02:03:19.000
Yeah, but maybe you get a fucking yacht and you rent it and Go through the Caribbean.
02:03:30.000
Dr. Phil would be just as happy if he made $75,000 a year.
02:03:39.000
Yeah, you think Elon Musk would be super pumped to go down to about $75,000 a year?
02:03:43.000
You think Oprah's fucking giving away cars making $75,000 a year?
02:03:46.000
Do you think he would get that top-shelf actress pussy if he was making $75 million a year?
02:04:02.000
They were detailing all the different shit that Johnny Depp spends money on.
02:04:10.000
He is, I don't know what he does in terms of his substance of choice, what he enjoys, but he appears to be on a financial rampage.
02:04:20.000
Didn't he have to like take a loan from his agent or something like that?
02:04:23.000
Dude, he owns, Johnny Depp owns like 40 houses or something crazy?
02:04:28.000
They said his security is like stupid, like $275,000 a month.
02:04:42.000
He's a fucking animal and he's got some sort of a lawsuit.
02:04:53.000
Johnny Depp's ex-business managers allege she has outraged his spending happy of $2 million a month.
02:05:04.000
How does no one go, bro, you gotta chill out on the $2 million a month?
02:05:08.000
He spent $3 million to fulfill friend Hunter S. Thompson's dream of having his ass just shot out of a cannon.
02:05:15.000
45 luxury cars, 10 million dollars a year to support his entourage, friends, and family, and $30,000 a month alone on wine.
02:05:38.000
10 million, his entourage is having a grand old time.
02:05:41.000
Personal lawyer, Jake Bloom, Depp was living beyond his means and urged him to spend less and sell certain expensive but unnecessary assets to repay loans and pay his taxes and living expenses.
02:05:58.000
Listen, that's cocaine living right there, ladies and gentlemen.
02:06:25.000
In the past 30 years, earned him an estimated $650 million.
02:06:29.000
Being a rich movie star, however, does not necessarily bring great financial savvy.
02:06:33.000
Over the past decade, Mr. Depp paid more than $5.6 million in interest on overdue taxes, has lent millions of dollars to people unlikely to pay him back, and has unwidely splurged a number of questionable investments,
02:06:50.000
not the least of which is that town near San Tropez.
02:07:18.000
They're allowed to say that because they're both white.
02:07:19.000
And Stan Oak has to go up to the street and there's a dude with an earpiece waiting for him.
02:07:23.000
And the dude with the earpiece takes him in a golf cart and drives him up to the top of the hill.
02:07:28.000
But there's one dude on the block that apparently won't sell.
02:07:46.000
I heard Nicholas Cage is even crazier spending.
02:07:49.000
He buys castles and knights equipment and shit.
02:07:54.000
Him and Leonardo DiCaprio, I think, were bidding on some skull, and he had to return it because it was stolen from, like, the...
02:08:03.000
When he bought a skull from King Tut's fuckin'...
02:08:07.000
Yeah, the museums were like, bro, that's our shit!
02:08:11.000
Leonardo DiCaprio had to return a bunch of art that was given to him by a guy who apparently stole it all.
02:08:16.000
He agrees to return stolen dinosaur skull to Mongolia.
02:08:51.000
Someone stole it, and he bought it, and he had to return it?
02:09:03.000
Like, if you want to buy some replica, like a child's toy, you're a fucking asshole.
02:09:13.000
Like, if you go to a lot of museums, a lot of the skulls you're seeing are replicas.
02:09:27.000
Let's just have like three raptors at the new studio.
02:09:33.000
What's like the most common dinosaur that you could buy?
02:09:51.000
Yeah, saber-toothed tiger's not a dinosaur, Jamie.
02:10:14.000
Authentic Fossil Massasaur Halliosaurus Amborgy.
02:10:41.000
So it took like seven years for him to get the certificate of authenticity, and then when they got it, that's when they found out it was stolen.
02:10:47.000
So you can buy some fake shit and not know for a while.
02:10:55.000
Yeah, I just can't imagine that for $55,000 you should get a real...
02:11:08.000
I'd have all that all around my house, like Game of Thrones.
02:11:18.000
If you're Warren Buffet, and you're 90, and you're worth 80 billion bucks.
02:11:22.000
Like, why not have a bunch of that shit in your house?
02:11:25.000
Your wife would just slowly start to realize you're going insane.
02:11:28.000
Start constructing a dinosaur in the middle of the living room.
02:11:31.000
All of a sudden, the construction crews at the house like, what's going on, honey?
02:11:41.000
I'm going to put a glass ceiling in the living room.
02:11:57.000
The guy who made the American Werewolf, Patrick McGee.
02:12:12.000
You'd be an asshole to buy a fish for a million and a half dollars.
02:12:23.000
Premium white diamond fish are rarer than precious gemstones.
02:12:27.000
So it's one of those things, if you're an asshole, you have it in your fish tank?
02:12:36.000
Yeah, apparently there's only like a hundred of those.
02:12:38.000
If you have an all white moose at your house, You're getting some panty droppers.
02:12:44.000
If you're on a hunting trip, okay, that moose is a legal-sized moose, and a white moose steps in front of you, do you release that arrow?
02:12:51.000
Yeah, you gotta shoot that white moose in his stupid face.
02:13:02.000
Oh, we're just gonna shoot the black moose now?
02:13:12.000
But the thing is, man, here's the thing about animal rights activists and people that are nutty about animals.
02:13:26.000
Apparently, it's just got some weird genetic anomaly.
02:13:37.000
Yeah, see, fur coloring is a genetic mutation, and it's not an albino.
02:14:00.000
Some people thought the string coloring might be another sign of a sure-to-becoming apocalypse.
02:14:22.000
Like, there's a black bear, if you're hunting black...
02:14:24.000
First of all, if you're hunting black bear, people get mad at you anyway, because you're killing a bear.
02:14:28.000
Because they're not round bears, they think the bears are extinct, or there's a very few of them...
02:14:32.000
There's a shitload of bears, depending on where you're at, right?
02:14:42.000
Cam was saying he has to take out the big older ones because they'll fuck up all the cubs.
02:14:45.000
Yeah, it's actually better for the population to take out the big males because the big males eat cubs.
02:14:51.000
When we were there, oh wow, look at these white deer.
02:14:59.000
I would grab one of those and run off in my car.
02:15:13.000
They're different than any other undulates in that they're real aggressive.
02:15:17.000
Like a moose will chase you down and beat your fucking ass.
02:15:38.000
Something dangerous where, hey, like, I gotta watch my P's and Q's.
02:15:44.000
It has to be something dangerous, and I'm down.
02:15:47.000
Well, deer, I mean, if they did want to fuck you up with those things, they could stab you.
02:15:59.000
They are the food source of mountain lions and wolves and bears and countless other animals.
02:16:08.000
It's not like you should somehow or another diminish their existence, but that's a prey animal.
02:16:14.000
That's why they're, I mean, in the system that they're in, the biological system.
02:16:24.000
I've never had access deer, but when you post those, I get so hungry.
02:16:30.000
That, in my opinion, is like the most, if you can get to Hawaii, Hawaii, if you can get to Hawaii, that's the most ethical place to hunt.
02:16:38.000
Because they don't have any predators, so they have to kill these animals.
02:16:41.000
So they have like some insane number of deer on lanai, they have axis deer on Maui, they have them on, I think Molokai has them too.
02:16:54.000
So they actually bring over snipers to take out some of the deer to keep the population numbers down.
02:16:58.000
If the population gets too high, what happens is these deer start getting disease.
02:17:06.000
The good thing about Hawaii, too, is there's so much growth.
02:17:26.000
You should still have a birthday party and then have your family speak into a video.
02:17:40.000
Yeah, it's just like, I don't want to be the center of attention like that.
02:17:42.000
It's ironic as that sounds, because most of what I do...
02:17:45.000
You want to be in the center of attention in some way.
02:17:51.000
Yeah, I'd rather just, I don't know, do a set, have a nice dinner.
02:18:00.000
I thought, like, how are they going to make Tower of Terror better?
02:18:04.000
Tower of Terror is my favorite writer of all time.
02:18:14.000
I haven't seen Part 2, but I saw Part 1. Oh, you finally saw Alien Covenant.
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I swear to God, when the movie, I stood up, stand ovation.
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I love when they made the AI guy, gave him, I don't want to say too much, spoiler alert.
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Okay, you're going to have to tune out now, folks.
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You haven't seen Alien Covenant that came out seven months ago.
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I like the fact that the AI guy, they cut out his creativity because he started getting weird.
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If you give artificial intelligence the need and the ability to create...
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But this movie, it went Prometheus first, then this, right?
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Dude, I watch that, on every plane I watch that movie.
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The problem with those movies is there's cut-the-shit scenes.
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Like when the, you know, Life One, where they're playing with it, and they try these experiments with it, and they introduce the electric, like, hey, come on, man.
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Don't you want to bring this back to Earth before you start fucking with it in some sort of secured laboratory?
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Because you do that, and then, look, if we brought that bitch back to Earth, then, you know what I'm saying?
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But you think they'd be doing things like zapping it?
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You know, the problem was they gave him a little bit of a CGI face, and I was like, oh, come on.
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Yeah, because they couldn't make it too demonic, because then it would be alien.
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I like all the slobber and shit that comes out of its mouth, too, with this big, giant fucking bug head.
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You get the VIP. It's going to cost you about $60 to get in the door.
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And you can look down upon the people who didn't buy the VIP tickets.
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Oh, so there's people below you that have regular seats?
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Yeah, and you're like, get out of here, peasants.
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People down below, you know, they're angry about their position in society.
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Did you know that there's a system that you can get for your house where it downloads movies as they come out and you can watch brand new movies?
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Because with a kid, like Annabelle, the new Annabelle came out.
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I think it's run by Netflix or the same guy that started Netflix, started this sort of thing.
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It's been available for a while at $50 a month, but now it's down to $10 a month.
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You still have to pay for a ticket or something, then you get paid back.
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Dude, I would pay $100 a month to watch movies at my house.
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Yeah, this is different than what I was talking about.
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He just introduced something totally different.
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This is just cheap movie tickets that people are mad about.
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And once you have it installed in your house, then you can watch movies as they come out.
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Because with a kid, it's tough to get the babysitter.
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I can't wait for that to come out on DVD. It sucks.
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You can't even see what movies are available unless you pay for it.
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And it just comes with the service to provide the movie?
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Yeah, I think you just, it's like a hard drive and you download whatever the movie is that you want to see and you can watch it.
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I feel like you shouldn't do that now because technology is coming so fast and like Netflix are going, you know, big movie stars like Will Smith and these guys and Adam Sandler doing these Netflix deals so you don't have to go to the theater.
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Liveness means someone wants to cut your fucking hand off and have a dead hand that they use to start up your screen?
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Or just take your fingerprint on a piece of paper.
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What kind of a person wants to kill someone so they can see Pirates of the Caribbean 8?
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Oh dude, I might kill a bitch to see the new 8. To see the new Ed at my house, I'd slice someone's finger off.
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I want to chill at home in my undies, watch all the new movies.
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The real problem is other people when they can't keep it together, when they start answering phones, when talking.
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I've been at so many movie theaters where people start talking.
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Homeboy in front of me just on the phone the whole time.
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And he turns around and goes, wait till the movie's over.
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The whole movie, all I could think of, I'm like, what am I going to do here?
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I'm just balls deep in popcorn thinking about how I'm going to fuck these guys up.
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Link, if I was you, if I could remote control your body, I might go over there and smack him in the head.
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You're with your girl, you know what I'm saying?
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But yeah, it is a very, very rude and disrespectful thing to be on your phone.
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Like, I can see your phone, you're on Facebook.
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Do you know how few people have the ability to sit through a fucking podcast without looking at their phones?
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But a lot of my guests, I see them checking their phones.
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They start checking their phones and doing this.
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Texting, hold on, I just gotta text this guy right back.
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But for some people, the requirement of an hour or two or in a podcast, three, without checking the phone, impossible.
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They're getting that little tweak, that little rush of anticipation.
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They say literally, and we don't even know how addicted the phones are, but people, their brains are becoming addicted to it.
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Just to the sensation of feeling it, and the colors, and mentions, and Instagram, and DMs.
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Now that we're talking about it, my mouth is salivating.
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But you go to a restaurant, you'll see five people on their phones not even looking at each other.
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And when you're hanging out with a friend and they're on their phone all the time, it's brutal.
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There's some restaurants, they take your phone out the door.
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Then there's some, if you don't use your phone, you get 25% off.
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I don't know how it works, but you have some people.
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You can't be taking fake shit so you can check your Facebook.
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You took a fake shit just to check your Facebook.
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You and Joey Diaz are pretty good about calling.
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Yeah, man, there's some people that just, they, for whatever reason, are tethered to the hip.
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And then there's some people that decide they can't use it at all, so they just go straight cell phone, like button phone.
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I was watching some video, or no, it was a reading of Vice's article.
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They interviewed him, and they were asking about it.
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Because he appeared on Game of Thrones, and he got such backlash, he stopped doing it.
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Go to Kevin Hart's post, and it's like, fuck you, little man.
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And everybody having access to you, everybody being able to communicate with you.
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If you just decide to swim in that river and you wonder why you got poisoned.
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Like, even now, my son, he wants to grab my phone and, you know, he's not going to Twitter and checking DMs and dick pics, but he's, like, scrolling through everything just because of the stimulation.
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She didn't show up to school and be like, look at this bitch!
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If you give kids phones, you let them see beheading videos, you're letting them tune in to the latest news.
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They can see that car run over those people at that white power rally.
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I mean, all that shit a kid can see and they're gonna see.
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I mean, think of the shit that every day I'm posting some new ridiculous video.
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Someone doing something stupid and getting brain damage.
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Or sometimes they may have the iPads to write notes and shit.
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Yeah, it's one of those things where you gotta wonder at what point is it okay to give it to them?
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You know, if you're at home with your kids and, like, stay off the phone, kids, and you're just, like, constantly checking your phone, then they're going to be pissed at you.
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There should be no phones between whatever, you know, especially dinner time.
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What we do with a big thing we do in my house, a lot of art.
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Constantly, like, they're always painting and drawing and doing shit.
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If you give kids that opportunity to do something and then they get, like, in a pattern of doing it all the time.
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Where they're not, you know, their stimulation doesn't come on TV and their phones.
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Yeah, we let them watch TV. We don't keep it from them, but we don't let them watch it all day.
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I think especially creativity is important for kids because the more they realize they can make things, even if you could just make something out of papier-mâché or something where you're writing something, something that didn't exist.
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My daughter writes stories, a story that didn't exist.
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You realize you read stories, you can also write them.
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The more you realize you can create things, it's my thought that it opens up your idea of what's possible for your whole life.
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You can figure out how to work hard at something.
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I also think it's really good for their little brains to make things.
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I've never thought about it ever, ever in my life.
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I thought, how is this little dude going to make friends?
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Even when they don't make friends, that's good, too.
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Well, don't be the introverted kid who's in balls deep into the comics, maybe.
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But it's the first time it ever crossed my mind.
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I saw all these kids playing, I thought, what happens if he doesn't make friends?
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What are you gonna do if your son gets older and he is sort of introverted, kind of nerdy, And you see some predatory bitch move in.
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What if your son becomes like some super successful producer type character?
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And you see some predatory coyote type woman move in, just runs him, tells him what to do all the time.
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You see it, you go over the house, and you're like, son, you can't let her tell you what to do.
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Do you know that feeling that you have when a friend, when you see a friend is getting taken over?
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You know, like one of them Night of the Living Dead?
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There's a really, really old version from like the 50s.
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There's a Donald Sutherland version, which is, I think, I want to say like the 70s, which is excellent.
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And, you know, good special effects for the time.
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Yeah, what it is is, while you're sleeping, it somehow or another, like, the fibers get a hold of you.
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Like, it climbs up, like, if the pod's, like, near the bed.
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It gets a hold of you and touches you, and then it puts you to sleep and starts replicating you underneath the bed.
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So, like, while you're sleeping, it's, like, draining your body and replicating you, and then in the morning, you're dead.
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As he's asleep, this thing was taking over and recreating him, and he woke up before it was too late.
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No wonder why Keith and Sutherland were fucked up.
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If you grow up and your dad's a famous actor and you become an actor yourself, you're going to be fucked up.
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There was one more that happened with Meg Tilly.
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I don't remember what year, but I want to say it's like...
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But it's one of those things, you don't remake those things so many times.
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I watched that movie with Ben Affleck where he moves to Tampa.
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I was taking sleeping pills, so I was a little out of it.
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I thought it was the counting, and I was like, what the fuck?
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Yeah, he's like, he's involved with a mob, and they want him to go run the Tampa Bay wing of it.
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I took them in Australia, and people are like, only take one.
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I was like, I'm not that sleepy, so I'd pop three of them.
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People are fucking haters when I break on Affleck.
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Did you ever see his argument with Sam Harris on the Bill Maher show?
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He argued with Sam Harris about what's in Islam.
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Listen, I'm not going to say stay in your lane.
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It's hilarious because Affleck doesn't know what to do, so he goes full social justice warrior and starts calling Sam Harris a racist and saying it's gross.
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You can't yell and argue with Harris because he will never go there.
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Especially when he starts spouting out facts and explaining.
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I think what it was is he was getting ready for Batman.
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It has no basis in fact, and it's just pure speculation.
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I think he was on steroids getting ready for Batman.
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And I think when you get jacked like that, you get a little fucking testy!
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It was like, oh yeah, online, they got torn apart.
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See, I don't get the hate, well obviously he fucked up there, but I don't get the hate with Ben Affleck.
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Because people see that and they go, ooh, that's the real you.
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I've never seen him behave like that before, and he definitely got jacked for that movie.
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And when you're 45 years old or whatever he is, you just don't get jacked like that.
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Which, if Hollywood called me and was like, okay, why don't you be Bruce Wayne, I'm going to get on that Gotham City cycle.
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I'm going to get on some of that Clembutrol to lower my body fat.
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He gained 20 pounds, 228 pounds total, got down to 7.9% body fat.
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Ben Affleck's trainer, Walter Norton Jr., talks about Ben Affleck's body during the days filming The Town.
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Hey, Walter Norton Jr., how about you tell us the cycle he's on?
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Is there a photo of him with his shirt off at 7.9% body fat?
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We'll look at him next, but I think you're wrong on that.
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That is not even remotely 7. That's not even teens.
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That looks like a guy who's fighting in the UFC right now.
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Yeah, see, that's the kind of dedication that I don't Dude, I don't know if you can get down to that.
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There's some good pictures of Christian Bale jacked.
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No, he just looked more like a guy who could really fuck you up than I feel like Ben Affleck looks.
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That was like one of the worst movies he ever did in terms of like the reception it got.
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But the difference between being the skinny guy on the right hand side, which was like him dying.
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I mean, he essentially starved himself almost to death.
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And then a few months later, he's the guy on the left.
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Yeah, he played a guy with narcolepsy that couldn't sleep and didn't eat.
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Dude, I'll tell you who got jacked was Ryan Reynolds.
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If you're playing a fake character, I don't get why you wouldn't do a nice cycle.
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Where on 300, you know, they're making the movie and everyone's doing CrossFit nonstop doing the Spartan workouts and Butler's not showing up.
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And then didn't do what everyone else did and came fucking...
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Is that really what his body actually looked like?
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But now he's fucking bitches, and they're like, what the fuck?
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He was super jacked, and then he let himself go.
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Imagine if you're a girl and you think you're fucking 300 and you get to like, God damn!
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And you feel that gut resting on the top of your ass while he banged you from behind.
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You go halfway limp because you're doing coke all night.
02:46:00.000
Brett and Sean, we gotta get out of here and get another podcast.
02:46:11.000
We probably made some MMA sites some awesome headlines.
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A shocking result is Mayweather comes out there, underestimates Conor McGregor, and Conor puts him at the fucking end of the rainbow.
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He's dancing with the leprechauns in a pot of gold.
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Because he's in fucking dreamland because he face planted.
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The exciting result is Conor McGregor becomes the greatest athlete the world has ever known and the most famous guy of all time and MMA wins.