The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 31, 2014

00:00:01.000 Oh, good googly moogly, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

00:00:05.000 This episode of the podcast, if you're looking for a regular podcast where people are going to talk about interesting shit and bring up topics that are fascinating and intellectually stimulating, that shit ain't happening. 0.96

00:00:17.000 Today, this episode, what are they seeing? 0.98

00:00:19.000 Are they seeing that?

00:00:20.000 No.

00:00:21.000 What are they seeing?

00:00:22.000 They seeing us? 1.00

00:00:24.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:00:25.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:00:27.000 We're already live, you late fucks. 1.00

00:00:28.000 Sit down. 1.00

00:00:29.000 Everybody pay attention.

00:00:30.000 Pay attention, my friend.

00:00:31.000 What's up, dawg?

00:00:33.000 What's up, sexy face?

00:00:34.000 What is that?

00:00:35.000 Have you been back to the freezing place since we have?

00:00:38.000 Grab that backpack.

00:00:40.000 You think it works?

00:00:41.000 Hey, you guys, we're broadcasting.

00:00:42.000 Don't have just a regular conversation.

00:00:46.000 This is actually a podcast.

00:00:47.000 Is it being videotaped?

00:00:48.000 Yeah, it's videotaped.

00:00:49.000 Videotaped too?

00:00:50.000 We're live. 1.00

00:00:50.000 Damn. 1.00

00:00:52.000 You don't want to be videotaped? 1.00

00:00:53.000 We can go incognito.

00:00:54.000 We can just put a logo up.

00:00:55.000 You can just put a black dot over my face, right?

00:01:00.000 This is like I was saying before you guys walked in.

00:01:04.000 This episode is not a regular podcast.

00:01:06.000 This is what we're calling...

00:01:07.000 We're calling the Fight Companion Podcast. 0.57

00:01:09.000 We did it during the last UFC broadcast that I wasn't a part of, and we had a great fucking time, so we decided to do it again.

00:01:17.000 Brendan Schaub is here. 0.73

00:01:18.000 Hello!

00:01:19.000 Brian Callen is here.

00:01:20.000 Hello!

00:01:20.000 Everybody!

00:01:21.000 Brian Callen is here.

00:01:24.000 Ejebra is here. 0.98

00:01:25.000 The original Renato.

00:01:27.000 And we are watching...

00:01:29.000 Yeah, yeah, sure.

00:01:30.000 I'll get you some...

00:01:32.000 Isn't there like a box of Alpha Brain right here? 0.93

00:01:34.000 Alpha Brain! 0.99

00:01:35.000 Oh shit, I would love Alpha Brain. 1.00

00:01:36.000 I can't function without it. 0.99

00:01:38.000 We're watching the Brazil broadcast, but I have UFC Fight Pass, so we can watch the Mousasi vs.

00:01:47.000 Munoz fight, which has already taken place.

00:01:48.000 Do you know what happened?

00:01:49.000 Yeah, do you?

00:01:49.000 Yeah, I saw it.

00:01:50.000 It's a bummer.

00:01:51.000 You're a friend and a fan of Munoz.

00:01:53.000 Yeah, good training partner, Munoz.

00:01:55.000 It's a good dude.

00:01:56.000 It's a tough one, man. 1.00

00:01:57.000 Mousasi looked like a fucking beast. 0.99

00:01:59.000 We'll cover that later. 1.00

00:02:00.000 He just couldn't take him down or what?

00:02:01.000 Well, he took him down.

00:02:02.000 You want to watch it real quick while we're waiting for the fight to take place?

00:02:04.000 Can we watch it over here so my neck doesn't hurt?

00:02:06.000 So your neck doesn't fall off?

00:02:07.000 It's not possible?

00:02:08.000 No.

00:02:08.000 Here, I'll show you.

00:02:09.000 I'll turn.

00:02:10.000 This is the end.

00:02:12.000 So you're saying Munoz could take him down?

00:02:14.000 We can see it right behind you.

00:02:15.000 Munoz tried to take him down.

00:02:16.000 Watch.

00:02:17.000 He tried to take him down.

00:02:19.000 Oh, look at that.

00:02:19.000 And Musashi got him to the ground, got inside control, went for the guillotine, wound up being on top.

00:02:26.000 And, uh, eventually got his back.

00:02:28.000 From Mount.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, it was pretty slick.

00:02:30.000 And then Mark turns.

00:02:31.000 Dude, he's good. 0.99

00:02:32.000 He's fucking really good. 0.99

00:02:34.000 You know, a lot of people sleep on his ground game, man. 0.99

00:02:36.000 They think about him as a kickboxer.

00:02:38.000 They shouldn't.

00:02:39.000 His ground game is very, very high level.

00:02:41.000 And it was a sweet transition, too, the way he did it.

00:02:47.000 Munoz, he's no joke.

00:02:49.000 He's a good wrestler, very strong guy, and Musashi, for him to do this to him...

00:02:53.000 Munoz was NCAA champ, right?

00:02:56.000 Two times in a row or something?

00:02:57.000 Yeah, four-time All-American.

00:02:58.000 Listen, with Munoz in practice, this is the same thing he does.

00:03:02.000 When he gets the mount, he goes for that single leg, and it causes him a lot of trouble.

00:03:06.000 So he would work with Huron and Henner...

00:03:09.000 About options not to do that, but it's just in his nature when the bullets are flying to turn to wrestling.

00:03:15.000 That's so crazy.

00:03:16.000 It gets him in trouble, man.

00:03:17.000 Yeah.

00:03:18.000 Well, that is the transition that a lot of guys make, especially when they feel like they're super dominant wrestlers.

00:03:22.000 They feel like, look, I'm already where I want to be.

00:03:24.000 I can just complete this single. 0.99

00:03:26.000 But while he was going for the takedown, Musashi hit him with some nasty fucking elbows, man. 0.99

00:03:32.000 They were really ugly. 0.99

00:03:34.000 Really ugly elbows.

00:03:35.000 And I think those probably took a lot out of them, man.

00:03:39.000 Those were horrible elbows.

00:03:43.000 Look at this.

00:03:44.000 What a sweet move, man.

00:03:46.000 So he couldn't quite take him down and get on top.

00:03:49.000 He couldn't do it.

00:03:50.000 Well, Musashi out grappled him.

00:03:51.000 Not even once?

00:03:52.000 What is Musashi?

00:03:54.000 Is that an Iranian name or Persian name?

00:03:56.000 I think it is.

00:03:58.000 Maybe Armenian? 0.93

00:03:59.000 You know, I'm not sure.

00:04:01.000 No, it's not Armenian.

00:04:02.000 Musashi?

00:04:03.000 It sounds...

00:04:04.000 Oh, that's me.

00:04:05.000 That's Joey. 1.00

00:04:06.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:04:07.000 Let's find out. 1.00

00:04:08.000 It's tough, man.

00:04:09.000 Musashi. 0.98

00:04:09.000 It sucks to watch. 0.98

00:04:13.000 You're live, Joey Diaz. 0.97

00:04:14.000 You're live, Joey Diaz on JRE. I gotta ask you a question, Joey.

00:04:17.000 Today, when they do that Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, are they inducting Kiss today?

00:04:17.000 What?

00:04:22.000 I don't know.

00:04:24.000 That's a good question.

00:04:26.000 Random questions.

00:04:26.000 Random questions from Joey Diaz.

00:04:29.000 I check with you, bro, just to make sure to do your thing.

00:04:32.000 Joey Diaz, I owe you a phone call, baby.

00:04:35.000 Alright, brother.

00:04:36.000 He's Armenian.

00:04:36.000 Hey, did you watch the UFC tonight?

00:04:38.000 Did you watch the Munoz fight?

00:04:40.000 Oh, he hung up.

00:04:41.000 He probably lost him. 1.00

00:04:42.000 This signal in here sucks a fat one. 0.99

00:04:46.000 How is he not funny? 0.99

00:04:48.000 That's so hilarious.

00:04:50.000 Saying that is funny.

00:04:52.000 Just asking if Kiss was inducted.

00:04:55.000 That's how funny Joey Diaz is.

00:04:57.000 I always thought they were inducted.

00:04:59.000 I thought maybe like 15 years ago or something.

00:04:59.000 It could be anything.

00:05:01.000 Oh my god, they should have been.

00:05:01.000 Is that something you can Google?

00:05:03.000 Come on, Kiss was definitely in the Hall of Fame.

00:05:06.000 I don't think so.

00:05:07.000 I'm getting frozen yogurt.

00:05:08.000 I'm getting frozen yogurt with a beautiful blonde. 1.00

00:05:10.000 A while back, and Gene Simmons is sitting down.

00:05:14.000 As I come back in to get a vanilla yogurt, I say, I'm going to get one.

00:05:19.000 She's outside.

00:05:20.000 And I get one, and he looks at me, and he goes, and I go, Hey, man.

00:05:25.000 How you doing?

00:05:26.000 He goes, like your friend.

00:05:29.000 Like your friend.

00:05:29.000 Very cute.

00:05:30.000 I like your friend.

00:05:31.000 Something like that.

00:05:31.000 What?

00:05:32.000 Something like that?

00:05:33.000 And I go, I said, yeah, it's great, man.

00:05:36.000 I was just thinking about it.

00:05:36.000 Yeah, it's amazing.

00:05:37.000 You guys have been doing this for 20 years.

00:05:39.000 You've been famous for 20 years.

00:05:41.000 And he goes, 30. 30. And I was like, Right.

00:05:46.000 By the way, doing stand-up for him at the MMA Awards, like he's in the front row, I think he didn't quite laugh, but he did open his mouth a couple times and kind of looked at me.

00:05:58.000 That tongue?

00:05:58.000 Yeah, he kind of went, ah.

00:05:59.000 Dude, one of the most nervous I've ever been.

00:06:00.000 He came to see me on New Year's Eve.

00:06:02.000 He brought his family.

00:06:03.000 That is It's nerve-wracking, right?

00:06:05.000 Gene Simmons, his brother, or his son, rather, who's a funny kid too.

00:06:09.000 His son's about 6'8".

00:06:11.000 Giant kid.

00:06:11.000 The whole family's giant.

00:06:12.000 I was like their child.

00:06:13.000 Can you please play basketball?

00:06:14.000 It's like they won you in a contest.

00:06:16.000 His wife is tall.

00:06:17.000 Yeah, they're big humans.

00:06:17.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 But it was the weirdest thing ever.

00:06:20.000 It's like, Gene Simmons is in the crowd.

00:06:21.000 Like, Gene Simmons?

00:06:23.000 Kind of throws you a little. 0.99

00:06:24.000 Oh, fuck yeah, it does. 0.99

00:06:25.000 I had to bring it up. 0.99

00:06:26.000 I brought it up.

00:06:27.000 You called him out?

00:06:28.000 I had to.

00:06:29.000 I had to.

00:06:29.000 You have to.

00:06:30.000 For me, I was like, I just got to tell you, I'm nervous.

00:06:32.000 Well, that's like, I did stand-up for Harvey Keitel and Harry Dean Stanton, and they're in the audience to see me.

00:06:39.000 Oh my god.

00:06:40.000 I was nervous, man.

00:06:41.000 I found myself very nervous.

00:06:43.000 You had Bieber in the crowd one time.

00:06:44.000 I wasn't nervous about that.

00:06:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:06:45.000 No, I saw you. 0.99

00:06:46.000 You were shitting your pants on Bieber. 0.99

00:06:47.000 Yeah, right. 0.99

00:06:48.000 You sent me a text, oh my god, Bieber's here.

00:06:51.000 Yeah, right.

00:06:51.000 Get here now!

00:06:53.000 I'm so excited!

00:06:54.000 What has he got to do to get people's respect?

00:06:56.000 What has Bieber got to do?

00:06:57.000 He's got the tattoos.

00:06:58.000 He's walking out with Floyd.

00:07:00.000 That's the problem.

00:07:00.000 He's hanging out with Floyd.

00:07:01.000 That's the problem.

00:07:02.000 Come on.

00:07:03.000 What does he have to do? 1.00

00:07:04.000 Shit! 1.00

00:07:04.000 That's the problem. 1.00

00:07:05.000 Just be cool and fucking sing. 0.99

00:07:07.000 Don't act all tough and hood. 0.99

00:07:09.000 But what if he is tough?

00:07:10.000 What if he could sing?

00:07:11.000 What if he is tough?

00:07:12.000 I completely disagree with all of you.

00:07:13.000 I don't think he's doing anything wrong.

00:07:15.000 I think if I was 19, I would be...

00:07:17.000 Way more out of control if I had half a billion dollars.

00:07:20.000 He's doing alright.

00:07:21.000 He got busted for weed. 0.97

00:07:23.000 The kid's doing fan-fucking-tastic. 0.98

00:07:25.000 So he egged the neighbor's house. 0.98

00:07:28.000 Whatever.

00:07:29.000 I know. 1.00

00:07:30.000 He's in a fight with an asshole who lives next door to him. 1.00

00:07:33.000 I'd probably have indentured servants. 1.00

00:07:34.000 I'd be out of control.

00:07:36.000 You would think his next door neighbors would be like 10 miles away.

00:07:40.000 With the money he has?

00:07:41.000 No, no, no.

00:07:42.000 I live next to people.

00:07:43.000 The Oaks is a very crowded community. 0.95

00:07:45.000 I mean, Joe and I, I remember Joe and I, when I wanted to get a pit bull, Joe and I, like idiots, found, I find this advertisement that says, pit bulls bred right out of the box. 0.91

00:07:54.000 I was like, Joe. 0.94

00:07:56.000 He goes, where'd I go?

00:07:56.000 I found fighting dogs.

00:07:58.000 I want jaws on the end of a leash.

00:08:01.000 Joe's like, I'll come with you.

00:08:02.000 We go find this sketchy dude.

00:08:04.000 Sketchy dude. 0.69

00:08:06.000 Sketchy criminal. 0.89

00:08:07.000 For sure, he smoked meth.

00:08:11.000 I don't know if he's selling it, but he's definitely smoked it.

00:08:13.000 He gave his dog protein powder.

00:08:16.000 I was like, alright, well, I want one of those dogs.

00:08:18.000 Good dog or what?

00:08:19.000 Yeah, kind of until it killed...

00:08:19.000 Yeah, it was a great dog.

00:08:21.000 A baby cow and two goats and another dog, and then they had to put it down.

00:08:27.000 Yeah, those dogs are not good pets.

00:08:30.000 They're sweet as hell.

00:08:32.000 I disagree.

00:08:32.000 Pimples?

00:08:33.000 Gamebred.

00:08:34.000 Gamebred.

00:08:36.000 It's all in the genetics, man.

00:08:37.000 100% in the genetics.

00:08:39.000 It's also the way you raised, exactly.

00:08:41.000 If I was Justin Bieber at that age, I would have...

00:08:42.000 Sort of.

00:08:43.000 If I was Justin Bieber, I'd have lines. 1.00

00:08:45.000 Yeah, fuck yeah. 0.99

00:08:46.000 Think about what Tyson had. 1.00

00:08:49.000 It depends entirely on the dog, but even if you're really good at taking your dog to dog parks and getting used to being around people, they still have mad animal aggression.

00:09:02.000 Yeah, they got that trigger you never know with them.

00:09:05.000 And when Dom Herrera, when Justin Bieber's in the audience, Dom Herrera comes up and goes, You know, Justin, it must have been really hard for you, the struggle between the age of 13 and 14 when you weren't making it.

00:09:14.000 By the way, that's the worst Dom Herrera impression in the history of the earth.

00:09:16.000 It's not bad, actually.

00:09:17.000 I would disagree with you.

00:09:18.000 It was a terrible Dom Herrera impression.

00:09:19.000 Hey, you know, I wanted to watch that Justin Bieber movie, Never Surrender, Never Give Up or something like that.

00:09:25.000 I also wanted to see it.

00:09:28.000 I said, let's go watch that and goof on it. 1.00

00:09:30.000 We'll just goof on this stupid-ass movie, a Justin Bieber movie. 0.99

00:09:34.000 I couldn't wait to watch it and goof on it, but when you go and you watch it, Man, when you know the story of how he blew up, when you actually know how he blew up, it's pretty crazy. 0.99

00:09:46.000 I thought he was a producer project or some labels putting together.

00:09:53.000 Nobody wanted to sign him.

00:09:56.000 He blew up on his own from YouTube.

00:09:58.000 How?

00:09:59.000 Just because he was so good? 1.00

00:10:00.000 He's a fucking amazing singer. 1.00

00:10:03.000 He can sing his ass. 1.00

00:10:04.000 And he plays drums. 0.99

00:10:06.000 He plays guitar and everything.

00:10:06.000 He shreds.

00:10:07.000 Let's let everyone know that the fight is about to start. 1.00

00:10:09.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:10:09.000 So if you're watching this, here's the problem. 0.99

00:10:11.000 If you watch this online, it's a 15-second delay between us, this is what I had to get out, between when we're talking in the fights.

00:10:19.000 The fights have already happened by the time you're hearing this.

00:10:22.000 So pause, like, 15 seconds, and then catch up.

00:10:26.000 Right now it's 4.51 of the first round.

00:10:29.000 I'm sorry.

00:10:29.000 And this is Honey Jason and Robbie Peralta.

00:10:32.000 I'm not mad at those ring card girls, the new Brazilian ring card girls. 1.00

00:10:34.000 Pow, pow!

00:10:35.000 The jiu-jitsu thing on his shoulders might be a little much.

00:10:38.000 You could add that on a t-shirt instead. 1.00

00:10:40.000 Honey Jason's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:10:42.000 Yeah, he's a wild man. 1.00

00:10:42.000 He is. 1.00

00:10:43.000 He won the ultimate fighter in Brazil.

00:10:46.000 Jeremy Stevens knocked him out with a head kick, but he came back with a win his next fight after that.

00:10:51.000 If you've got jiu-jitsu on him.

00:10:52.000 Jeremy Stevens hit him with the kick from hell.

00:10:55.000 I wonder how he got that name.

00:10:56.000 Honey?

00:10:57.000 Jason's a nickname, right?

00:11:00.000 Jason's his nickname.

00:11:01.000 That's why he wears the hockey mask.

00:11:03.000 I wonder how he got that.

00:11:04.000 Has anybody ever asked him? 0.99

00:11:06.000 Damn, he has an Ultimate Fighter tattoo. 0.99

00:11:08.000 Yeah, he won. 0.99

00:11:09.000 He won the first season of the Brazilian show.

00:11:12.000 That right, if that's a left or a right, that right looks like if he throws it and commits, it's going to connect.

00:11:18.000 What are you talking about, son?

00:11:20.000 Please.

00:11:21.000 Can we mute him when he does that?

00:11:24.000 Guys, you know what?

00:11:26.000 Official UFC fighter, please talk to Brian.

00:11:28.000 Tell him to never say things like that.

00:11:31.000 If you're going to comment on the fight, you've got to do it in a Brazilian accent.

00:11:34.000 We'll accept that.

00:11:35.000 I was going to do that.

00:11:36.000 Okay.

00:11:37.000 If you connect with the right like that, there's going to be a problem.

00:11:40.000 That was Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:11:41.000 That's Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:11:42.000 I know.

00:11:43.000 It's Arnold.

00:11:44.000 Arnold as a Brazilian. 0.97

00:11:45.000 He's recovering from us shitting on his Don Murray impression. 1.00

00:11:48.000 Damn! 1.00

00:11:49.000 Oh, they're on the ground. 1.00

00:11:50.000 Oh, look at this beautiful transition.

00:11:52.000 Trying for an armbar.

00:11:52.000 Got a little high.

00:11:54.000 Honey Jason falls off the top.

00:11:55.000 He's nice and loose.

00:11:56.000 He's keeping loose.

00:11:57.000 Robbie Peralta. 1.00

00:11:58.000 He's a tough motherfucker. 0.99

00:11:59.000 This is going to be a good fight. 1.00

00:12:00.000 This is an interesting fight.

00:12:03.000 He kind of looks like if Dan Hardy and Jens Pulver had a kid.

00:12:09.000 Yeah, or actually, I think it's Tom Hardy, Chuck Liddell.

00:12:13.000 Yeah, both of those work.

00:12:15.000 Yeah, there's a lot of Dan Hardy in there.

00:12:18.000 Yeah, there is a little bit of Dan Hardy, a little bit of Jens Pulver.

00:12:22.000 He's a good-looking kid, Hardy.

00:12:24.000 Some chick already got pregnant. 1.00

00:12:26.000 Oh! 0.60

00:12:27.000 Beautiful, spinning elbow. 0.99

00:12:29.000 Damn, that's sneaky. 0.99

00:12:29.000 That was sweet. 0.99

00:12:31.000 What were you saying about pregnant chicks, though, before that elbow happened? 0.99

00:12:33.000 No, I was just getting into the story of this background.

00:12:38.000 Oh, how he looked like that?

00:12:41.000 I'll make a call right now.

00:12:43.000 If he catches, he's going to catch him with that right. 0.98

00:12:45.000 That spinning elbow was fucking magnificent. 0.98

00:12:48.000 Tasty. 0.98

00:12:48.000 Going to catch him with the right. 0.98

00:12:49.000 You know, you didn't see it coming either.

00:12:51.000 He didn't telegraph it.

00:12:53.000 He threw it.

00:12:54.000 It was beautiful.

00:12:55.000 And it was also...

00:12:56.000 It was unexpected.

00:12:58.000 Did you guys see some of the prelims?

00:13:00.000 Yeah, I did.

00:13:01.000 I watched the Rodrigo Dan fight.

00:13:03.000 What did you see?

00:13:05.000 God, who was it?

00:13:07.000 Homeboy...

00:13:09.000 They were just throwing.

00:13:10.000 Caution to win.

00:13:11.000 Herb stopped the fight in the second round.

00:13:13.000 No, which fight?

00:13:14.000 Was it on the fight pass?

00:13:16.000 Nope, it was the first one.

00:13:17.000 Yeah, on Fox Sports.

00:13:17.000 Oh, on this?

00:13:18.000 Oh, man, I missed them. 0.99

00:13:22.000 I didn't say shit. 0.98

00:13:23.000 I think we'd probably be able to get that. 0.99

00:13:26.000 Standing ovation from Joe Silva.

00:13:27.000 Wow.

00:13:28.000 Which is hard to do if you're not familiar with him.

00:13:30.000 For what fight?

00:13:31.000 Joe Silva's...

00:13:32.000 First fight on Fox Sports 1 prelims.

00:13:34.000 He's a real connoisseur, that Joe Silva. 0.99

00:13:37.000 That motherfucker knows. 0.99

00:13:38.000 He's seen a couple fights in his day. 1.00

00:13:39.000 He knows about every fighter on the planet at all times.

00:13:43.000 That sounds ridiculous, but he basically does.

00:13:45.000 Anytime a guy is like making it into the big...

00:13:48.000 Into the big leagues.

00:13:49.000 Silva knows about it.

00:13:51.000 He's like a super fan.

00:13:52.000 I love talking to him about fights.

00:13:53.000 He trains too.

00:13:54.000 He's always trained.

00:13:55.000 Yeah, but I love talking to him about fights.

00:13:57.000 Me and him have some really interesting conversations about fights.

00:14:00.000 Remember when you put him in that arm bar?

00:14:01.000 No, he put me in an arm bar.

00:14:02.000 No, he didn't.

00:14:04.000 You guys were just messing around.

00:14:04.000 No, he didn't.

00:14:06.000 No, no, not for real.

00:14:08.000 Not for real.

00:14:09.000 No, he wanted to try out.

00:14:10.000 He wanted to try out. 1.00

00:14:12.000 Damn, man. 1.00

00:14:14.000 Joe's way bigger than him. 1.00

00:14:16.000 Joe's way bigger than him.

00:14:17.000 He wanted to show me some new variation on the armbar, and it wasn't effective.

00:14:22.000 He picked him up and slammed him. 1.00

00:14:25.000 Rampage his ass? 1.00

00:14:26.000 Real meathead style? 1.00

00:14:28.000 He had a good idea, it's just he didn't take into account a couple things, and one of them was that he wasn't controlling my body.

00:14:34.000 I was like, you don't have a hold of me.

00:14:38.000 It was a decent idea.

00:14:39.000 You have 50 pounds of muscle on him, too.

00:14:41.000 That helped.

00:14:42.000 So no matter what, if he would have put on a traditional Brazilian Carl's Gracie senior armbar, he would have still just slipped off.

00:14:52.000 You've got a mid-sized dog on him.

00:14:54.000 That's how much more weight you have on him.

00:14:56.000 We were talking about...

00:14:58.000 Steve Maxwell was in here, and he was talking about how he had this dude who was this gigantic football player. 0.98

00:15:04.000 Just total super athlete, 280 fucking pounds of pure muscle. 0.97

00:15:08.000 NFL player or college? 0.99

00:15:09.000 We were talking here.

00:15:10.000 College.

00:15:10.000 No, no, no.

00:15:11.000 I forget.

00:15:12.000 I forget.

00:15:13.000 Either way, stud.

00:15:14.000 I think it was an NFL player.

00:15:18.000 But anyway, giant dude, right?

00:15:19.000 And he was rolling with one of his brown belts.

00:15:22.000 And the guy gets him in a mounted armbar, mounts him, takes his arm, fully locked in armbar, and the dude stands up with him like a Turkish getup. 0.54

00:15:29.000 Oh my god.

00:15:30.000 Oh my god.

00:15:30.000 Just stands up.

00:15:31.000 Holds his arm up in the air and they're like, don't slam him!

00:15:33.000 Don't slam him! 0.64

00:15:34.000 Oh my god.

00:15:34.000 Let him go, let him go, let him go.

00:15:35.000 Put him down, put him down. 0.99

00:15:36.000 Everybody relax.

00:15:37.000 Put him down.

00:15:38.000 It was just, there was, he was so much stronger that it did, like the other dude was only like a buck sixty.

00:15:43.000 He was so much stronger that it was just insanity.

00:15:45.000 You know what's weird?

00:15:46.000 I just asked him about Andre Carter, who played defensive end for the 49ers and for the Pats, and I just met him. 0.95

00:15:52.000 He's 6'7", 265, and just the most ridiculous athlete. 0.88

00:15:56.000 People always do this. 0.52

00:15:59.000 How do you think you do in the UFC? Big guy, huh?

00:16:02.000 Do well in the UFC? Fuck no, man! 1.00

00:16:05.000 He'd get tore up. 1.00

00:16:06.000 He'd get dropped.

00:16:08.000 And listen, people are always like, how would NFL elite athletes LeBron James?

00:16:12.000 It takes a special kind of athlete to get punched in the face the first day in the gym.

00:16:16.000 Like, you know what?

00:16:17.000 I want to do more of this.

00:16:17.000 I'm going to come back.

00:16:18.000 Look at that elbow.

00:16:19.000 Look at this elbow.

00:16:20.000 Oh, and there's not a million dollar signing bonus.

00:16:22.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.97

00:16:23.000 Damn, I was hoping they were going to show that again. 0.99

00:16:25.000 That elbow was goddamn beautiful. 0.99

00:16:26.000 Yeah, no million dollar signing bonus. 0.99

00:16:28.000 Super dangerous.

00:16:29.000 It's a long road.

00:16:30.000 Nothing guaranteed.

00:16:31.000 High risk, very low potential reward.

00:16:34.000 What it is, is football players and any professional athlete, really, they will, if they got into jujitsu or if they got into MMA, they will progress a lot.

00:16:43.000 Uh-oh. 0.93

00:17:04.000 You gotta be doing it to get really fucking good and be glorious. 0.96

00:17:07.000 Listen, there's a lot of guys in the NFL who I played with or in college, and there's some guys in fighting too, but mainly in these other sports where... 0.91

00:17:15.000 They would walk away from it if they could.

00:17:17.000 They hate doing it.

00:17:18.000 They hate playing football.

00:17:19.000 It's just the money's so damn good.

00:17:21.000 But you've rolled with some elite football players.

00:17:23.000 Oh yeah.

00:17:24.000 Yeah, I mean some big powerful guys.

00:17:26.000 They did.

00:17:26.000 And do you remember that dude they used to have at the gym?

00:17:28.000 Who was that dude?

00:17:29.000 I don't know what level of football he played, but I used to always call rolling with him.

00:17:34.000 I was like riding the bull.

00:17:36.000 Riding the bull?

00:17:38.000 Rolling with him is riding the bull.

00:17:40.000 How many alpha brains should I eat?

00:17:42.000 I take four.

00:17:43.000 I take nine.

00:17:44.000 Seriously?

00:17:45.000 And I take four.

00:17:47.000 Four is not too much?

00:17:47.000 Do you remember the guy I'm talking about?

00:17:49.000 The football player, Eddie?

00:17:51.000 Football player.

00:17:52.000 Big black guy, super strong, really flexible.

00:17:55.000 Andy?

00:17:55.000 No, it wasn't Andy.

00:17:57.000 Old Legends?

00:17:58.000 Yeah, Old Legends.

00:18:00.000 La Brea Legends?

00:18:01.000 Yes.

00:18:01.000 Football player?

00:18:03.000 Oh, Lee Macklin?

00:18:04.000 I think that's him.

00:18:05.000 He played running back in college.

00:18:08.000 Oh my god, this guy was an athlete. 0.99

00:18:10.000 Ridiculous. 0.97

00:18:10.000 He's learning jiu-jitsu, but an athlete. 0.97

00:18:12.000 But it was like riding the bull. 0.99

00:18:13.000 He was just so fucking strong. 0.99

00:18:15.000 I'll tell you what, man. 0.98

00:18:16.000 Shane Carwin was 300 pounds when I first started with him.

00:18:21.000 Shane would go do his job.

00:18:23.000 He'd be gone, have an injury.

00:18:25.000 He'd be gone for six weeks.

00:18:26.000 I'd be working on jiu-jitsu three times a day.

00:18:29.000 Seven days a week.

00:18:30.000 I'm like, I can't wait for Shane to get back.

00:18:32.000 I'm going to roll this big mug up.

00:18:34.000 Nothing.

00:18:35.000 He's just so big.

00:18:36.000 Nothing.

00:18:37.000 Like you said, you trapped something on him.

00:18:39.000 He just freaking...

00:18:41.000 Honey Jason just mounted Robbie Peralta.

00:18:44.000 Robbie Peralta exploded.

00:18:45.000 Peralta's tough, man.

00:18:47.000 Brian, real quick.

00:18:48.000 Both of these guys are tough.

00:18:50.000 Hey, man.

00:18:51.000 Every guy you see tonight is going to be pretty tough.

00:18:53.000 He's tough.

00:18:54.000 He's so sweaty.

00:18:57.000 These guys are sweating, man.

00:19:00.000 Honestly, these guys have a lot of muscle mass.

00:19:03.000 This guy has a little courage.

00:19:04.000 Honestly, these guys have a lot of muscle on them.

00:19:06.000 This guy's a stud.

00:19:08.000 They like fighting.

00:19:09.000 These guys fight.

00:19:11.000 These guys are fighting.

00:19:13.000 Triangle attempts.

00:19:15.000 Triangle attempts.

00:19:16.000 Oh! 0.60

00:19:16.000 Oh, tries to omoplata. 0.60

00:19:19.000 Lost it.

00:19:19.000 Lost control.

00:19:20.000 Need to learn some rubber guard. 1.00

00:19:22.000 Lock that shit in tight, son. 1.00

00:19:23.000 A lot of stuff doesn't work on these guys, guys. 1.00

00:19:25.000 A lot of stuff doesn't work.

00:19:26.000 These guys exercise.

00:19:27.000 No, they don't.

00:19:28.000 That's all natural, bro. 1.00

00:19:30.000 This shit's totally natural. 1.00

00:19:33.000 Can I be honest? 1.00

00:19:34.000 Fighting hurts.

00:19:35.000 It hurts. 0.55

00:19:35.000 For anybody out there, Robbie Peralta on top kicking Honey Jason in the legs. 0.55

00:19:44.000 Interesting.

00:19:44.000 It is interesting.

00:19:45.000 Are these guys 55ers? 0.52

00:19:47.000 They never know how long to stand there and when to step them back up.

00:19:52.000 Obviously Homeboy doesn't want to go to the ground with him, so I think you should probably stand up sooner than possible, right?

00:19:58.000 But it's a tricky situation.

00:19:59.000 Remember you used to watch those old Jack Dempsey films and he would knock a dude down and then hover over him?

00:20:05.000 Because when the guy tried to get back up, he would punch him.

00:20:07.000 Boom.

00:20:07.000 And people would be like, oh, that's so cheap.

00:20:09.000 That's so cheap.

00:20:10.000 You know, they used to be able to do that. 1.00

00:20:12.000 That's some cheap shit. 0.99

00:20:13.000 Now you have to, you know, stand in neutral corner and the boxer has to wait for the guy to get up. 1.00

00:20:17.000 But it's kind of unrealistic.

00:20:20.000 So when you see a scenario like this, I think it's kind of interesting.

00:20:23.000 Peralta was, you know, holding his legs and kicking him.

00:20:26.000 Oh! 0.60

00:20:27.000 Beautiful right hand by Peralta.

00:20:29.000 That was nice.

00:20:30.000 That didn't hurt.

00:20:30.000 You see how he said, come here?

00:20:32.000 He got hit.

00:20:32.000 The minute he got hit, he started doing that.

00:20:34.000 The Rodrigo Dam fight earlier.

00:20:37.000 He was fighting...

00:20:38.000 What's his name?

00:20:41.000 Nurmagomedov, I believe it is.

00:20:42.000 Did you see Paulo Thiago?

00:20:45.000 Lost another one?

00:20:46.000 He did?

00:20:47.000 Paul Tiago did?

00:20:48.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:20:49.000 Damn, who did he lose to today? 1.00

00:20:51.000 Some Russian cat. 1.00

00:20:52.000 Dude, I don't know.

00:20:53.000 I think he's lost five.

00:20:55.000 Does anybody know what's going on with Tiago Silva, like that whole situation?

00:20:58.000 Oh, Tiago Silva?

00:20:59.000 Yeah.

00:21:00.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 Apparently, he got arrested and they kicked him out of the UFC. Right.

00:21:05.000 And he had a gun on him or something.

00:21:08.000 I don't know if he actually brought the gun.

00:21:10.000 I'll tell you right now what this all stems from. 0.96

00:21:12.000 Chicken head.

00:21:13.000 Chicken head.

00:21:15.000 There you go, dog.

00:21:16.000 Everything extends from chicken head. 1.00

00:21:18.000 Schaub's going to drop some fucking chicken head signs. 0.99

00:21:20.000 If you've never heard Schaub, he's like, oh, he hit that beautiful foot. 1.00

00:21:23.000 He took it as he took the jab.

00:21:25.000 He spun and landed at Elba.

00:21:26.000 These guys are just loving it.

00:21:28.000 Oh, nice left hook.

00:21:29.000 Nice left hook. 0.99

00:21:30.000 Oh, Peralta.

00:21:32.000 Oh, right hand by Honey Jason.

00:21:34.000 Great right hand.

00:21:34.000 Right on the button.

00:21:36.000 Peralta just ate it.

00:21:37.000 Oh, this is a great fight.

00:21:39.000 They said, defense, you're out of here.

00:21:39.000 I know.

00:21:41.000 Let's just throw it. 0.78

00:21:42.000 They let it go.

00:21:43.000 Brennan Schaub will give a master course on chicken heads.

00:21:46.000 Chicken heads 101. Yes, he will.

00:21:48.000 I have a black belt in chicken heads. 1.00

00:21:51.000 There's a lot of dudes out there that will ruin their fucking life with the wrong person. 1.00

00:21:54.000 Hang out with the wrong people. 0.99

00:21:56.000 Brendan Walsh will teach you how to avoid chicken heads. 0.99

00:21:59.000 Walsh?

00:22:00.000 I say it all the time.

00:22:00.000 Walsh?

00:22:01.000 Brendan Fraser.

00:22:02.000 Who is Brendan Walsh?

00:22:03.000 Brendan Walsh.

00:22:04.000 The 90210. I do.

00:22:06.000 Brendan Fraser.

00:22:08.000 Brendan Schaub will give you a- Brendan Fraser apparently has a piece on him.

00:22:10.000 Heard that from a girl.

00:22:12.000 He's got a serious piece.

00:22:12.000 I believe you.

00:22:14.000 You should do one of those late night infomercials on chicken heads.

00:22:18.000 Do you have chicken head problems?

00:22:19.000 And just show a bunch of different scenarios.

00:22:22.000 What was that song?

00:22:23.000 You used to hear his song on your one album, Voodoo Panani.

00:22:27.000 Yeah, it was terrible.

00:22:28.000 That was good.

00:22:29.000 That wasn't terrible.

00:22:30.000 That's a good song.

00:22:31.000 Have you heard that?

00:22:32.000 No.

00:22:33.000 Oh, you got to hear it.

00:22:34.000 Don't sell yourself.

00:22:34.000 That's a good song.

00:22:35.000 Bro, you know what we haven't taught?

00:22:36.000 We haven't been in since UFC 173. Oh, yeah.

00:22:39.000 TJ Dillashaw.

00:22:40.000 What? 1.00

00:22:41.000 Goddamn. 0.99

00:22:41.000 That was incredible, right? 0.99

00:22:42.000 Inspiring, man.

00:22:43.000 Look at how he eats the jab and spins.

00:22:45.000 Boom.

00:22:46.000 Oh, it was a right hand.

00:22:47.000 He ate the right hand.

00:22:48.000 Oh, nice jumping knee, too.

00:22:50.000 Wild fight.

00:22:51.000 We got one more.

00:22:54.000 Mario ain't having it!

00:22:56.000 Come on! 0.61

00:22:57.000 He's excited.

00:22:58.000 Yeah, they were just going to high-five, you know?

00:23:01.000 You got to chill, though.

00:23:02.000 They enjoyed the fight.

00:23:03.000 They're enjoying it.

00:23:04.000 This is good, dude.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, I like when dudes do that.

00:23:06.000 Yeah, they must have trained before together. 0.99

00:23:09.000 No, no, they're just having a great fucking time. 0.99

00:23:11.000 God. 1.00

00:23:12.000 They're just having a great fucking time. 1.00

00:23:13.000 That was a wild ass first two rounds. 1.00

00:23:14.000 You know who wouldn't do that? 0.98

00:23:15.000 I'll tell you who wouldn't do that.

00:23:16.000 Mr. Brennan Schaub.

00:23:17.000 Most boxers wouldn't do that either.

00:23:18.000 A lot of people wouldn't do that.

00:23:20.000 It's rare.

00:23:21.000 It might happen like one half of one percent of all UFC fights.

00:23:26.000 That's a risky kick when you do that because you could catch an elbow.

00:23:28.000 You know why you don't do that?

00:23:29.000 You ever seen Pat Berry vs. 0.98

00:23:31.000 Marco Crocott when they kept hugging and grabbing each other's nuts and shit? 0.99

00:23:33.000 Yeah, but that was very extreme. 0.99

00:23:35.000 That was a very extreme version.

00:23:37.000 Well, I'm just saying.

00:23:38.000 That's one example.

00:23:40.000 Then I have to fight Murkirk Kopp after that?

00:23:42.000 Not the way you show respect, man.

00:23:43.000 What do you mean?

00:23:44.000 No, you show respect by beating him up, by bringing it to him.

00:23:47.000 Not by high-fiving him and having him sign your shorts inside the octagon. 1.00

00:23:52.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:23:53.000 That's what I do. 1.00

00:23:54.000 I'd be friends with everybody.

00:23:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:23:56.000 Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

00:23:57.000 You could be friends afterwards.

00:23:59.000 Yeah, well, I think Pat Barry was actually good friends with Marco Krokop, right?

00:24:03.000 They trained together.

00:24:05.000 I get it.

00:24:05.000 But still.

00:24:06.000 I get it.

00:24:07.000 Listen, me and Andre Arlovsky trained together.

00:24:09.000 You think we're high-fiving?

00:24:10.000 No.

00:24:11.000 You think we're touching gloves?

00:24:12.000 Nope.

00:24:13.000 Well, were you friends with Arlovsky?

00:24:15.000 We were good training partners, man.

00:24:16.000 Did you guys ever go out looking for honeys together?

00:24:18.000 Looking for chicken heads?

00:24:19.000 No, he had a girl.

00:24:21.000 You were good friends with Mitreone.

00:24:23.000 When you went to touch gloves, he goes, no, we'll do it afterwards.

00:24:26.000 Yeah, he did.

00:24:27.000 Wow.

00:24:28.000 Then he woke up.

00:24:29.000 Then I tried shaking his hand and he didn't want to.

00:24:31.000 Geez.

00:24:32.000 Oh, pokes.

00:24:33.000 Ah, it's the worst. 1.00

00:24:33.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:24:34.000 I fucking hate them. 1.00

00:24:35.000 There's nothing you can really do about it if you want grappling. 0.99

00:24:35.000 So what do they do about it? 0.99

00:24:38.000 They have to change those gloves, man.

00:24:39.000 How, though?

00:24:40.000 That's one thing.

00:24:40.000 Soft goggles.

00:24:41.000 They have to make them curved.

00:24:42.000 Make the gloves so that it accentuates the hand more and curves.

00:24:45.000 I hate this.

00:24:45.000 Ah, I hate this.

00:24:46.000 Yep.

00:24:48.000 That's a nice shot there. 0.99

00:24:50.000 Enjoy your victory with one freaking eye. 1.00

00:24:53.000 Right in the fucking eyeball, man. 1.00

00:24:55.000 Such a terrible injury. 1.00

00:24:57.000 You know what I also think?

00:24:59.000 I think they haven't exhausted all the possibilities as far as covering the tips of the fingers.

00:25:04.000 Everybody says you have to have the fingers open.

00:25:07.000 What about covering the tips with a very thin piece of tough leather?

00:25:12.000 What about grappling, bro?

00:25:13.000 Well, that's what I'm thinking.

00:25:14.000 Wouldn't it actually, if it was suede or something along those lines, wouldn't it actually probably give you just a little more grip?

00:25:21.000 Suede thimbles?

00:25:21.000 They would come off.

00:25:22.000 No, no, I'm not saying it's thimbles. 0.99

00:25:24.000 I'm saying the front of the glove, the way it's constructed.

00:25:27.000 Some sort of a, like, lambskin or some sort of a pliable, something pliable.

00:25:33.000 Not like that.

00:25:35.000 Why lambskin?

00:25:36.000 Little kangaroo. 1.00

00:25:37.000 Lambskin's only good for one fucking thing. 0.99

00:25:39.000 Have you guys ever tried a lambskin? 0.99

00:25:41.000 I've never tried one.

00:25:42.000 Yeah, I know.

00:25:43.000 They make clothes out of it, too, though.

00:25:43.000 Yeah, I have.

00:25:45.000 They make soft clothes out of it.

00:25:46.000 It smells like soup.

00:25:47.000 You've tried it?

00:25:48.000 Did it break off?

00:25:48.000 Uh-huh.

00:25:50.000 I'm a little confused.

00:25:51.000 Tried it for what?

00:25:52.000 He's talking about condoms.

00:25:53.000 Lambskin condoms.

00:25:54.000 Have you ever tried them?

00:25:55.000 No, I've never heard of them.

00:25:55.000 I have.

00:25:56.000 You've never heard of lambskin?

00:25:57.000 Never heard of them.

00:25:58.000 I think they were an 80s thing.

00:26:00.000 They don't make them anymore because they have microscopic holes where viruses can get through.

00:26:04.000 Is it big in Africa? 0.66

00:26:05.000 HIV can get through them.

00:26:07.000 Yeah, so it must be huge in Africa.

00:26:09.000 It was the original condom.

00:26:10.000 The original condoms are made out of animal, like, intestines.

00:26:13.000 That makes sense.

00:26:14.000 Yeah, it totally makes sense.

00:26:15.000 Now, yeah.

00:26:15.000 I mean, that's what they use.

00:26:16.000 These guys are banging, man!

00:26:17.000 And animal intestines actually feel way better, apparently.

00:26:20.000 What?

00:26:21.000 Yeah, when you use...

00:26:21.000 I'm all set on that, bro.

00:26:23.000 I'm all set on that.

00:26:24.000 That's another podcast.

00:26:27.000 We all try it out.

00:26:32.000 We all go home tonight.

00:26:33.000 On Howard's turn, they all tried out the real doll.

00:26:36.000 They took turns on the real doll on the show.

00:26:38.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:26:39.000 Yeah, they had the real doll in another room, like in that room or whatever.

00:26:42.000 That's hilarious.

00:26:42.000 And they were miked, and they took turns on the real doll.

00:26:45.000 I think Howard got the mouth.

00:26:47.000 I think that's all.

00:26:48.000 Howard got the mouth.

00:26:49.000 It's his joint.

00:26:50.000 I'll do it, but you've got to guarantee me the mouth.

00:26:52.000 Everybody gets a different hole.

00:26:53.000 Oh, you want to hear something real?

00:26:54.000 I'd love to hear Brian and that thing.

00:26:56.000 That'd be so wild.

00:26:57.000 This is a good fight.

00:26:58.000 Yeah, right?

00:26:59.000 Sorry, man.

00:27:00.000 Sorry, guys.

00:27:01.000 You think there's guys out there that hang out and double team real dolls?

00:27:06.000 Dude!

00:27:07.000 You gotta get your own, bro.

00:27:08.000 You know what?

00:27:09.000 They're too expensive.

00:27:10.000 I guarantee there's two dudes right now listening to this podcast double-teaming some dolls. 1.00

00:27:15.000 How do you know?

00:27:16.000 All jacked up on Bulletproof Coffee.

00:27:18.000 There's gotta be, right?

00:27:20.000 There's gotta be dudes that have parties with it. 1.00

00:27:22.000 Like, fuck it, let's do it. 1.00

00:27:23.000 Like, one dude, he could afford a real good one. 1.00

00:27:25.000 I'll tell you what my post-fight party is right now.

00:27:28.000 Well, they have these websites where these guys take their real dolls and dress them up.

00:27:33.000 And I mocked it, and this is how I know.

00:27:35.000 I used to think it was funny to make fun of real dolls.

00:27:37.000 But then this dude told me...

00:27:39.000 Oh, did he get poked too?

00:27:40.000 No, he's blowing his nose.

00:27:41.000 They told me...

00:27:43.000 This guy sent me an email, like, angry at me.

00:27:47.000 And then I sent him an email back, like, hey, you know, look, I'm just trying to be funny.

00:27:51.000 I'm sorry if it hurt your feelings.

00:27:53.000 You know, but you realize it's kind of funny.

00:27:55.000 Because he's, like, in love with it?

00:27:57.000 Well, he has...

00:27:57.000 It's his girlfriend.

00:27:58.000 And these guys, they treat these things like they're their girlfriend.

00:28:02.000 So then he explained to me that he was disfigured when he was young.

00:28:05.000 His whole life, he's been lonely and sad. 0.99

00:28:08.000 Women find him disgusting. 0.97

00:28:10.000 And that that's a lot of the guys in this community. 1.00

00:28:13.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

00:28:14.000 I didn't even think about that. 1.00

00:28:15.000 Yeah, it was totally a different point of view.

00:28:15.000 That's kind of heartbreaking.

00:28:18.000 I would definitely have a doll if I was fucked up. 0.99

00:28:20.000 That's actually really interesting. 0.99

00:28:21.000 I'd have a doll.

00:28:22.000 I think I was looking at it in terms of some crazy dude who thinks that's a girl...

00:28:30.000 Well, that's a different situation. 1.00

00:28:32.000 I was thinking if you're a regular dude, you have your shit together, and you're going home taking out a doll, you need a fucking motivational talk, man. 0.99

00:28:39.000 Send me a text and I'll give you a motivational talk. 1.00

00:28:42.000 Isn't there a fucking movie where a dude fell in love with his real girl? 0.99

00:28:45.000 With Ryan Gosling called Lars and the Real Girl? 0.99

00:28:48.000 I don't know, but that movie, Her, where he falls in love with the...

00:28:53.000 Siri.

00:28:53.000 Yeah.

00:28:54.000 I love that movie.

00:28:55.000 I loved it.

00:28:55.000 Is it good?

00:28:56.000 It was so good.

00:28:56.000 I didn't see it.

00:28:57.000 There's got to be a guy out there that has like 70 of them, right?

00:29:01.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:29:02.000 He's like a pimp. 1.00

00:29:03.000 He has them all out in his living room and shit. 1.00

00:29:05.000 He comes out with a fucking smoking jacket and he's got all these real dolls all around him. 1.00

00:29:10.000 He sleeps with like 10 of them and shit. 1.00

00:29:12.000 Oh, for sure. 1.00

00:29:13.000 At least one dude.

00:29:15.000 Yeah, at least one dude. 0.97

00:29:16.000 And all the guys in his community, they're like jealous of him and shit. 1.00

00:29:19.000 Fuck, he's got so many shit. 1.00

00:29:23.000 And those things are expensive. 1.00

00:29:25.000 It's like a weird world.

00:29:26.000 There's got to be guys out there that want, they just can't afford one. 1.00

00:29:29.000 They just, they're $10,000, fuck. 1.00

00:29:32.000 They're 10 G's? 1.00

00:29:33.000 There's something like that.

00:29:34.000 5 G's, 10 G's, that's a lot of money.

00:29:36.000 Yeah, they're probably pretty expensive.

00:29:37.000 Who won this fight?

00:29:39.000 We weren't even paying attention.

00:29:40.000 I saw a little bit of it. 1.00

00:29:41.000 You're worse than the fucking judges in Vegas if you try to judge that fight the way we're talking. 1.00

00:29:45.000 I was actually watching. 1.00

00:29:46.000 I got Jason.

00:29:47.000 I got Jason. 1.00

00:29:48.000 Fuck out of here. 1.00

00:29:49.000 You were not watching. 1.00

00:29:50.000 There's got to be dudes that rip other people's real dolls off, like break in and steal them and shit. 0.99

00:29:50.000 Yes, I was. 0.99

00:29:55.000 Like, give me back my real doll! 1.00

00:29:58.000 Yeah, they break in while he's at work, they break in and fuck the real doll. 1.00

00:30:02.000 Well, my friends have a tenant. 0.99

00:30:05.000 My friends have to evict this tenant from their apartment because the guy was breaking in the other tenant's...

00:30:13.000 Spit it out, son!

00:30:15.000 Apartments, the other women, and stealing their clothes. 1.00

00:30:17.000 Oh, God.

00:30:18.000 And this woman was going, I'm missing my clothes! 1.00

00:30:20.000 What's going on?

00:30:21.000 So one girl put up video cameras, and the guy was breaking in during the day, stealing.

00:30:25.000 So they get to his place, and he's got just bins, bins full of women's stuff.

00:30:31.000 And he dresses up in his house and walks around, and that's what he's into.

00:30:35.000 And now the cops, you know, have a... 0.99

00:30:37.000 You're crazy if you don't think you can order a doll that looks like Joe Rogan and guys are fucking it. 1.00

00:30:41.000 You're crazy if you don't think that's one. 1.00

00:30:43.000 Even crazier than that, how about the fact that they're going to have artificial robot bodies that you can fuck, right? 1.00

00:30:48.000 That's going to happen. 0.99

00:30:49.000 Where are they at this point?

00:30:52.000 Can we find out where they're at?

00:30:54.000 Well, with synthetic biology, they might be able to create very real-feeling robots.

00:30:54.000 Are they close?

00:31:00.000 Well, they could be a person.

00:31:01.000 I mean, you could essentially be an artificial person. 1.00

00:31:04.000 So you're going to be able to fuck a Brendan Chobb. 1.00

00:31:06.000 You'll be able to fuck Bigfoot Silva. 1.00

00:31:07.000 You'll be able to fuck anybody you want. 1.00

00:31:10.000 I'm assuming not too many orders for Bigfoot Silva. 1.00

00:31:13.000 That's expensive.

00:31:14.000 You say that. 0.91

00:31:16.000 For gay dudes? 0.96

00:31:17.000 Gay dudes, here's a timepiece, right? 1.00

00:31:20.000 They just maybe just want to get savaged by a giant. 1.00

00:31:23.000 A fucking badass dude. 1.00

00:31:25.000 Yeah, you know, I bet you could probably order real dolls that look like Scarlett Johansson and shit like that, right? 0.99

00:31:32.000 Well, yeah, but I think you're going to be able to order an exact duplicate of Scarlett Johansson. 0.87

00:31:36.000 I mean, it's going to be so strange. 1.00

00:31:38.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:31:38.000 The world's going to be like that, man. 1.00

00:31:39.000 Why is that stupid? 1.00

00:31:40.000 I would order one if it was affordable and reasonable, right? 1.00

00:31:43.000 If you talked to someone who lived in the 1400s about internet porn on your phone, they would look at you like you were completely recording.

00:31:51.000 Peralta, wow.

00:31:51.000 Wow, he won!

00:31:53.000 That doesn't make sense to me.

00:31:53.000 Big win.

00:31:54.000 Well, I don't know if you were really, truly paying attention there, Brian.

00:31:57.000 We were talking about dolls.

00:31:59.000 You were definitely not watching enough to accurately judge a fight.

00:32:02.000 What is Hayabusa?

00:32:03.000 It's a company that makes clothes.

00:32:05.000 Clothes and gear. 1.00

00:32:06.000 Yeah, boxing gloves and shit. 0.99

00:32:07.000 Good gear. 1.00

00:32:08.000 Damn. 1.00

00:32:09.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:32:09.000 I don't know who won. 1.00

00:32:10.000 That's a good plug right there for Hayabusa. 1.00

00:32:12.000 Yeah, right? 1.00

00:32:13.000 Damn. 1.00

00:32:13.000 Did they pay you, Brian, to say that? 1.00

00:32:15.000 Yes, they did.

00:32:16.000 Yes, they did.

00:32:17.000 $25.

00:32:18.000 I was worth $2,000 right there.

00:32:19.000 Here's a random...

00:32:20.000 I don't know.

00:32:21.000 I just didn't see this, but anyway.

00:32:22.000 Yeah, but you weren't really totally watching it.

00:32:24.000 None of that landed.

00:32:25.000 That move of the night, none of those landed.

00:32:27.000 Nope.

00:32:28.000 Nope.

00:32:29.000 Kind of.

00:32:30.000 No, I didn't hurt him.

00:32:31.000 Did you see him?

00:32:32.000 He was going with it.

00:32:33.000 He was going against it.

00:32:34.000 So that couldn't have hurt.

00:32:37.000 He made the it didn't hurt me comment.

00:32:39.000 It was a good fight.

00:32:41.000 It was a really good fight.

00:32:42.000 Did anyone watch the Froach and Groves boxing match?

00:32:46.000 No, but I watched the knockout. 0.98

00:32:48.000 Yeah, I didn't see the match at all.

00:32:48.000 Good fight.

00:32:49.000 UK's biggest boxing match of all time.

00:32:51.000 80,000 people around the stadium?

00:32:53.000 That's sick.

00:32:54.000 The biggest of all time.

00:32:54.000 Isn't that funny that Carl Frotch is so big over in England?

00:32:58.000 But people in America, the average sports fan, has no idea who he is.

00:33:00.000 They have no idea who he is.

00:33:01.000 I don't know who he is.

00:33:01.000 I'll tell you who knows who he is.

00:33:02.000 His girl.

00:33:03.000 She is a dying piece of a girl. 1.00

00:33:05.000 He won that belt, but his girl jumped in there and everyone was like, dang. 0.65

00:33:09.000 Dang-a-ling. 1.00

00:33:10.000 Who's this?

00:33:11.000 Carl Frotch's girlfriend?

00:33:13.000 Yeah.

00:33:13.000 Carl Frotch?

00:33:14.000 He's winning.

00:33:15.000 He is winning, everybody.

00:33:17.000 Yes, it is real strange.

00:33:19.000 I was on a plane with Vladimir Klitschko and nobody bothered him at all.

00:33:23.000 It's insane, right? 0.99

00:33:24.000 He walked in, he sat down, nobody knew who he was, and I was like, holy shit. 0.99

00:33:28.000 And so I'm watching to see if people tweak and start pointing at him. 0.99

00:33:32.000 Nothing. 0.98

00:33:33.000 And go, holy shit, that's the heavyweight champion in the world. 0.96

00:33:34.000 Nope, not a single person knew who he was. 0.97

00:33:36.000 But in Europe, all over, he can't go anywhere.

00:33:38.000 He's like Tom Cruise.

00:33:39.000 Here, he could deliver your pizza and you're like, oh, what's up, Doug?

00:33:42.000 Well, he lives in Germany.

00:33:43.000 And him and his brother, they did a lot of time in Germany.

00:33:46.000 They lived in Germany for a long time, and they speak German.

00:33:49.000 And they were, like, beloved in Germany.

00:33:52.000 Yeah, really smart.

00:33:52.000 Smart dudes.

00:33:54.000 They're fucking PhDs. 1.00

00:33:55.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:33:55.000 It's kind of crazy that guys with super high education would be the... 1.00

00:33:59.000 Easy on the eyes, too.

00:34:01.000 Easy on the eyes.

00:34:02.000 No big deal.

00:34:02.000 Perfect genetics.

00:34:03.000 Yeah.

00:34:04.000 But, you know, he lost a bunch of times.

00:34:06.000 He's an interesting case, man.

00:34:08.000 He lost a bunch of times, and...

00:34:10.000 Oh, another eye gouge, man.

00:34:12.000 You know, at a certain point in time, man, someone's got to do something about these guys.

00:34:16.000 It's kind of part of the sport, right?

00:34:18.000 Is it, though?

00:34:20.000 It's like people getting kicked in the nuts, you'd be like, man, we have to stop kicking.

00:34:23.000 I figured out a way to do it, though.

00:34:25.000 Have you ever tried one of those diamond cups?

00:34:27.000 Those diamond MMA cups?

00:34:28.000 Nope, you told me about it last time.

00:34:29.000 I thought I was going to get one in the mail.

00:34:31.000 I'll get you one. 0.98

00:34:31.000 Every time anybody's been kicked directly in the balls, every single time, dude goes, hold on a second. 0.98

00:34:37.000 Yeah, hold on. 0.98

00:34:38.000 Hold on a second.

00:34:39.000 But...

00:34:41.000 Off the top of my head, there's only been two matches that ended with ball shots.

00:34:46.000 Vanderlei, Gilbert Ival, remember that?

00:34:48.000 Pride 11?

00:34:50.000 He kicked him in the balls and he just couldn't recover because his ball got caught in between the cup. 0.59

00:34:53.000 Guys are never the same, man. 0.95

00:34:54.000 Most of the time, though, in MMA, from what I remember, you get kicked in the balls and it doesn't end the fight. 0.95

00:35:02.000 True.

00:35:03.000 You get five minutes to recover.

00:35:05.000 Vanderlei, Gilbert Ivo, it was done.

00:35:07.000 Vanderlei didn't recover from that one.

00:35:08.000 His ball was sticking out.

00:35:10.000 His ball got crushed.

00:35:11.000 And that's the only one I remember.

00:35:13.000 Do you guys remember any?

00:35:14.000 Where a fight ended because of a ball shot?

00:35:17.000 No, I don't.

00:35:17.000 I don't.

00:35:18.000 Fights end because of eye gouges, right?

00:35:20.000 Yeah, man.

00:35:21.000 How many have ended?

00:35:21.000 And you can detach them.

00:35:22.000 A good amount.

00:35:23.000 A good amount.

00:35:24.000 At least 10?

00:35:25.000 Anthony Johnson.

00:35:26.000 The fight ended because of the eye gouge?

00:35:28.000 Yeah, the Anthony Johnson fight was a big one.

00:35:30.000 That was a bad one.

00:35:30.000 Phil Davis fought that one dude.

00:35:32.000 In Brazil?

00:35:33.000 Yeah.

00:35:34.000 Did they stop the fight?

00:35:35.000 Yeah, stop the fight.

00:35:37.000 Vitor...

00:35:37.000 Who was it?

00:35:39.000 Vitor against Randy.

00:35:40.000 Randy Couture.

00:35:40.000 But that was a different thing.

00:35:42.000 That was actually a punch.

00:35:44.000 Slice the upper eyelid.

00:35:46.000 His eyelid was open.

00:35:48.000 You could keep his eye closed so you could see his eyeball through it.

00:35:52.000 Yeah, and it was from a punch.

00:35:54.000 The grazing of the side of the glove did that.

00:35:57.000 I think you just gotta chalk it up, man.

00:35:59.000 Part of the sport.

00:36:01.000 You say that, but have they looked at all the options?

00:36:04.000 Because I feel like people can figure something out.

00:36:08.000 First of all, Tim Kennedy said they should use the Pride gloves.

00:36:11.000 Jamie, go grab some.

00:36:12.000 They're in the back.

00:36:13.000 I had them.

00:36:14.000 I brought them in just for this discussion.

00:36:17.000 They cover the fingers a little more.

00:36:18.000 A little more.

00:36:19.000 But they accentuate the curve, apparently.

00:36:22.000 So they keep your fingers a little bit more curved.

00:36:24.000 Keep you in this position, whereas the UFC gloves, you actually have to stress to close your hand.

00:36:28.000 Here it is right here.

00:36:30.000 This is the official Pride glove.

00:36:33.000 I'm not mad at those.

00:36:35.000 You know what?

00:36:36.000 That makes sense.

00:36:37.000 It forces your hand to curve.

00:36:40.000 If you want to straighten it, you can, but you've got to force it.

00:36:42.000 Yes, exactly.

00:36:44.000 That's a very good concept.

00:36:46.000 Well, and then Everlast recently developed a glove for Bellator that they're allowing the UFC to use.

00:36:52.000 There's definitely more covering the fingers.

00:36:53.000 I thought you meant Everlast the rapper.

00:36:56.000 My man. 1.00

00:36:58.000 That's a bad motherfucker. 1.00

00:36:59.000 Entrepreneur. 1.00

00:37:01.000 They developed a glove that Bellator is using.

00:37:05.000 Where it covers, like it makes the hand bend more.

00:37:09.000 Like it's more formed like a fist.

00:37:11.000 Like that one.

00:37:12.000 Yeah, I think even more so.

00:37:15.000 Maybe even better than the Pride one.

00:37:16.000 But the Pride one, like the fingers don't spread apart as much.

00:37:20.000 Like look, when you open your hand, hold your hand up like that.

00:37:23.000 See, it seems like there's a little more coverage of the fingers.

00:37:27.000 Yeah, there is.

00:37:27.000 You know?

00:37:28.000 A little bit more.

00:37:29.000 A little longer.

00:37:30.000 Damien Maia.

00:37:32.000 Alexander Yokolev.

00:37:33.000 Man, I hope Maia uses his jiu-jitsu.

00:37:36.000 What's his background?

00:37:37.000 It's so beautiful.

00:37:37.000 I don't know.

00:37:38.000 I'm not aware.

00:37:40.000 I'll look it up real quick.

00:37:42.000 The struggle is real to get this glove on, by the way.

00:37:45.000 Is there more padding on these, though, than in UFC gloves?

00:37:48.000 No. 0.93

00:37:48.000 Ryan looks ridiculous with that glove on. 0.93

00:37:51.000 I want to just start walking around with this, just in case. 0.88

00:37:54.000 I think they're the same weight.

00:37:56.000 Why does he look ridiculous with the glove on? 0.96

00:37:58.000 I don't know, man. 0.92

00:37:59.000 That guy's a real fighter.

00:38:00.000 Yeah, he's legit.

00:38:01.000 Dude, I boxed today with Wayne McCullough.

00:38:03.000 You have been boxing a lot this week.

00:38:04.000 Yes, I have.

00:38:05.000 They do have a little more pat on the front.

00:38:07.000 Like you said, your hand's curved.

00:38:08.000 Yeah.

00:38:09.000 Oh, you want to hear something random?

00:38:11.000 You know the Nas commercial with the guy with the mohawk who gets knocked out?

00:38:15.000 The worst commercial of all time.

00:38:16.000 Yeah, the guy.

00:38:17.000 I took a lesson at Revolution MMA in Toronto from that guy who knocks him out.

00:38:23.000 A Muay Thai lesson.

00:38:24.000 It was really cool.

00:38:25.000 And you know Joel Gerson, Joe?

00:38:27.000 The guy who armbarred Sato?

00:38:29.000 You know that guy?

00:38:31.000 Terrible story, Brian.

00:38:32.000 It's a terrible story.

00:38:33.000 Your stories are hurting tonight.

00:38:35.000 That was a good story.

00:38:36.000 No, it wasn't, bro.

00:38:37.000 You were struggling with the stories.

00:38:39.000 I'm trying to be cool.

00:38:41.000 It was so bad that it was good.

00:38:41.000 It was so bad.

00:38:43.000 We talked about it last night.

00:38:44.000 We talked about it last night with that commercial.

00:38:45.000 His instructor is in that commercial.

00:38:47.000 And I show up, and it's the guy.

00:38:49.000 I'm like, you're the guy from the NAS commercial.

00:38:50.000 Listen, there's a million guys out there who train and wear tap-out shirts that look exactly like that guy.

00:38:54.000 No, no, that was him.

00:38:55.000 It was him.

00:38:56.000 Well, that's what he told you.

00:38:57.000 No, we talked about it.

00:38:58.000 Come on.

00:38:59.000 Of course!

00:38:59.000 That's a claim to fame!

00:39:00.000 No, it was just random!

00:39:02.000 People get mad when you call it.

00:39:04.000 There's people online that get mad when we goof on Brian.

00:39:07.000 Oh, I know.

00:39:07.000 I've heard his feelings.

00:39:09.000 You're bullying Brian.

00:39:09.000 I got fans.

00:39:12.000 You guys bully Brian?

00:39:13.000 You have a reputation for that?

00:39:15.000 Well, the last podcast we did, we actually got tweets that were accusing us of...

00:39:22.000 People don't understand ball busting.

00:39:24.000 I don't know if you guys don't have any friends.

00:39:26.000 That's what guys do, yeah. 0.92

00:39:27.000 You guys who are freaking out because we bust each other's balls, go get some friends. 0.97

00:39:31.000 Also, I'm not very sensitive if you haven't noticed. 0.98

00:39:34.000 Yeah, well, you don't understand.

00:39:35.000 He likes it.

00:39:37.000 Half of the reason why he acts retarded is so they will call him on it. 0.99

00:39:40.000 It's not so subtle. 0.76

00:39:41.000 It's good entertainment.

00:39:42.000 It's not very subtle, ladies and gentlemen.

00:39:44.000 If you're freaking out and attaching that much to dudes who obviously like hanging out with each other, I don't know.

00:39:50.000 Maybe you have friends at home that you don't really like and you're trapped.

00:39:52.000 I mean, I do go home and cry.

00:39:54.000 But that's not the case here.

00:39:55.000 Brian cries that night.

00:39:56.000 I do.

00:39:57.000 In my hands.

00:39:57.000 Or you can come down to Abbot Kenny.

00:39:59.000 I'll bully you down there.

00:40:00.000 Let you feel like Brian Callen feels. 0.94

00:40:01.000 Shove me around.

00:40:04.000 Mr. Callen, can I have some of that delicious wine?

00:40:05.000 My friend.

00:40:06.000 That's what I brought it for.

00:40:07.000 Eddie, do you want some wine?

00:40:08.000 Because somebody's training right now, so they can't have it.

00:40:11.000 Man, I'll tell you.

00:40:12.000 Brendan Schaub.

00:40:13.000 Don't get in his way when he's hungry.

00:40:15.000 Less than two weeks away, Brendan Schaub.

00:40:16.000 Yes, sir.

00:40:17.000 Go time.

00:40:18.000 How you feeling, baby?

00:40:18.000 Go time.

00:40:19.000 Good, man.

00:40:20.000 Ready to go.

00:40:20.000 I've never been more excited for a fight.

00:40:22.000 Dude, that's...

00:40:23.000 Get some wine.

00:40:24.000 Eddie, go get a glass right in there.

00:40:25.000 I saw the trailer.

00:40:27.000 Did you see the trailer that Linkin Park released for UFC 174?

00:40:29.000 No, I didn't.

00:40:30.000 Watch that and you will be amped.

00:40:32.000 Really?

00:40:32.000 Linkin Park did it?

00:40:33.000 Linkin Park, yeah. 1.00

00:40:34.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:40:35.000 Man, it's dope. 1.00

00:40:36.000 Dana White tweeted it out.

00:40:37.000 Yeah?

00:40:38.000 They played it on the...

00:40:39.000 Well, you're obviously working, but they played it on UFC 173 and I was watching it with some buddies and...

00:40:46.000 I don't know.

00:40:47.000 Things got real. 1.00

00:40:48.000 It's like, oh shit. 0.99

00:40:48.000 We're two weeks away here, boys. 0.99

00:40:50.000 You're ready, baby.

00:40:51.000 Wow.

00:40:51.000 Your main card, right?

00:40:53.000 I just like asking dumb questions. 0.99

00:40:55.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.94

00:40:55.000 Why don't you play it? 0.94

00:40:56.000 Have you found it?

00:40:57.000 It's the Linkin Park UFC 174. The little standard Linkin Park that an acoustic set, not gonna lie, wasn't that good.

00:41:03.000 Ooh, I love Linkin Park.

00:41:05.000 Yeah, acoustic was...

00:41:06.000 Anyways, they played this promo, and yeah, I didn't say a word for the rest of the night.

00:41:10.000 It kind of went home.

00:41:10.000 Never Back Down MMA Motivation featuring Linkin Park.

00:41:13.000 Is that it?

00:41:14.000 Nah.

00:41:15.000 UFC 174 promo.

00:41:16.000 UFC 174 promo.

00:41:20.000 Okay.

00:41:21.000 That might be it.

00:41:22.000 Get lifting.

00:41:22.000 Hold on.

00:41:23.000 Hold on.

00:41:23.000 No, that's not it.

00:41:24.000 All right.

00:41:28.000 Promo.

00:41:28.000 There you go.

00:41:29.000 Wastelands?

00:41:30.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:41:31.000 Wastelands.

00:41:32.000 What's that?

00:41:33.000 Waste?

00:41:33.000 It's called Lincoln Park Wasteland.

00:41:35.000 Okay, slap that bitch on. 1.00

00:41:36.000 Okay, I'll do it. 1.00

00:41:36.000 Here. 1.00

00:41:40.000 Wastelands.

00:41:41.000 And then you see how stacked this card is, 174. There it is!

00:41:47.000 Anyway, back to my story about taking a lesson from...

00:41:50.000 Hold on.

00:41:50.000 Would you save that last story?

00:41:52.000 No, you gotta go back to the other one.

00:41:57.000 You clicked the wrong video.

00:41:58.000 I did?

00:41:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:00.000 Go backwards.

00:42:01.000 It was the second one.

00:42:07.000 What's that?

00:42:07.000 Yeah, I muted it already.

00:42:09.000 The second one.

00:42:10.000 The second one.

00:42:11.000 Wastelands preview.

00:42:12.000 Okay, here we go.

00:42:13.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:42:13.000 Wastelands.

00:42:14.000 There it is. 0.99

00:42:15.000 I don't hear shit. 0.99

00:42:18.000 Why am I hearing that? 0.99

00:42:23.000 Now you gotta hear the music, man. 0.99

00:42:26.000 Why is this fucking... 0.99

00:42:28.000 I shut this off. 0.99

00:42:30.000 I'm gonna shut the Ustream off.

00:42:32.000 Where am I hearing that from, Jimmy?

00:42:34.000 This guy's 6'3", 170. What's that?

00:42:37.000 Tall man.

00:42:39.000 Oh, there's two windows open.

00:42:40.000 That's what it is.

00:42:42.000 Okay.

00:42:43.000 Let me play this for you guys.

00:42:44.000 The Wastelands preview.

00:42:45.000 Hope Damian Maia uses jujitsu.

00:42:48.000 I hate how he's been striking lately.

00:42:49.000 It drives me nuts.

00:42:50.000 The volume's down on that YouTube browser, too.

00:42:53.000 Oh, is it?

00:43:01.000 Well, let's play this when the fight's not on.

00:43:04.000 Good call.

00:43:05.000 Because I'm a mess here. 0.98

00:43:07.000 I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. 0.96

00:43:09.000 Come on, Damien Maia! 0.99

00:43:10.000 It's got to be a big way cut for Damien Maia.

00:43:13.000 No, it's easy, bro. 0.99

00:43:14.000 He just fucking... 1.00

00:43:15.000 You just cut off a leg. 1.00

00:43:16.000 He's got some tits on him. 1.00

00:43:20.000 Damon Meyer went on that losing streak because, for whatever reason, you have this world-class jiu-jitsu and they're like, you know what, I like striking. 0.99

00:43:27.000 I'm not going to take guys down.

00:43:28.000 I just want to strike. 0.62

00:43:29.000 It's crazy to me.

00:43:30.000 They get in these ruts.

00:43:31.000 Tagged Mark Munoz and hurt him.

00:43:34.000 They fall in love with it.

00:43:36.000 Getting better at it.

00:43:38.000 But he still uses his jiu-jitsu.

00:43:40.000 Now he is.

00:43:41.000 Now he's at 170. At 85 he wasn't.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 That Rick Story fight was incredible.

00:43:46.000 You remember when he tossed Chael Sonnen and landed in that mounted triangle?

00:43:50.000 It was beautiful.

00:43:51.000 So sick. 0.98

00:43:52.000 I think it's so scary for a lot of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioners to get into MMA and all of a sudden Some dude's trying to fucking knock him out. 0.99

00:44:04.000 It's scary. 0.99

00:44:05.000 So when they get to the point where they actually can do it and they're getting hit and they're like, fuck, there's nothing to be scared of. 0.98

00:44:11.000 And even though they lose decisions, I think they like it. 1.00

00:44:15.000 You know, I think like George Urgell, he's losing decisions, but he's like, fuck, I'm not afraid of this shit. 1.00

00:44:20.000 I'm a fucking savage. 1.00

00:44:22.000 He's getting hit, he's getting cut up, and he just keeps going forward. 1.00

00:44:25.000 I think that feels good to them.

00:44:27.000 He's got jiu-jitsu.

00:44:28.000 It definitely feels good to knock people unconscious.

00:44:29.000 This guy looks like powder and he seems to be...

00:44:31.000 And especially when you're a guy like Damian Maia gets knocked out inside the octagon and now he can do it to people?

00:44:37.000 Yeah.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, so I think they, even though they lose a decision, they just like it.

00:44:42.000 Here we go.

00:44:42.000 They like throwing down.

00:44:43.000 But it's also, you know, you got to realize that a guy like Damian Maia got so fucking good at jiu-jitsu because he becomes obsessed. 0.79

00:44:49.000 And he probably just assumes he's going to get that good at striking. 0.57

00:44:52.000 You would think that would be his home base, though.

00:44:54.000 He's going to be threatening everybody everywhere.

00:44:55.000 Without a doubt.

00:44:56.000 He has gotten a lot better with his hands.

00:44:57.000 Oh, way better.

00:44:58.000 Way better.

00:44:59.000 The way he's moving.

00:44:59.000 Way better.

00:45:00.000 He looks much more like a striker.

00:45:03.000 There's that weird way that grapplers move when you know they can't strike at all.

00:45:03.000 Yep.

00:45:06.000 It's real awkward.

00:45:07.000 It's very stiff.

00:45:08.000 Yeah.

00:45:09.000 But when you see a guy get that certain fluidity to him, and it's weird.

00:45:14.000 It doesn't always translate that way, because some guys look kind of awkward, but they're really good strikers.

00:45:19.000 Yeah.

00:45:19.000 I love Damian Maia because I was at a real low point in my life when I was fighting in Brazil, and I was getting acai at like 2 in the morning after I fought Noguera, and he came up and gave me a big hug in front of all these people.

00:45:32.000 Oh, that's cool.

00:45:32.000 Yeah, man.

00:45:33.000 That's cool, man.

00:45:34.000 He's a very nice guy.

00:45:35.000 Yeah, certain stuff you don't forget, you know?

00:45:37.000 Yeah, no, that's very cool, man.

00:45:40.000 So he's doing well with his jab, popping that jab out there, but he hasn't been able to get ahold of this Russian dude. 0.72

00:45:45.000 He's a master of sport in both Sambo and Jiu Jitsu.

00:45:58.000 Good luck getting him off a mount.

00:46:02.000 He's got two and a half minutes of this.

00:46:04.000 His mount is sick!

00:46:10.000 Oof.

00:46:10.000 Damien Myers has such a textbook jujitsu.

00:46:13.000 I'll tell you right now.

00:46:14.000 What are the odds that this guy survives this round?

00:46:16.000 What are the odds?

00:46:17.000 I'd say they're 50% because this guy's a master of sport in sambo and a master of sport in wrestling. 0.98

00:46:22.000 He knows how to fucking survive. 0.96

00:46:24.000 I say less than 30%. 0.99

00:46:25.000 You think this is going to be over?

00:46:26.000 Yes.

00:46:27.000 If you had to bet money?

00:46:28.000 Yes.

00:46:28.000 I feel like he has no confidence.

00:46:31.000 Okay, I'll bet you 10 bucks.

00:46:32.000 10 bucks right now that he'll survive.

00:46:33.000 Okay, I'll take that bet.

00:46:35.000 Hey guys, no gambling.

00:46:36.000 10 bucks that he'll survive?

00:46:37.000 I say he survives right now.

00:46:39.000 No, I said he survives.

00:46:42.000 I'll bet both of you.

00:46:43.000 I'm saying he's going to survive. 0.97

00:46:45.000 What the hell?

00:46:46.000 I say the homeboy totally survives. 0.95

00:46:48.000 I say he survives.

00:46:48.000 Nope.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, he's gonna survive.

00:46:50.000 He looks fresh right now.

00:46:51.000 Look, all he's gotta do is keep clenching.

00:46:52.000 He's gonna take those elbows.

00:46:53.000 He could get stopped, but I think it's a little bit better than 50% that he's gonna make it.

00:46:53.000 I mean, he's definitely...

00:46:57.000 He's got a minute 30. He's gonna survive.

00:46:59.000 You guys know that. 1.00

00:47:00.000 These Russian dudes are tough as shit, son. 1.00

00:47:00.000 Come on, dude. 1.00

00:47:04.000 I realize this. 0.99

00:47:05.000 These dudes are tough as shit. 1.00

00:47:05.000 Damn, you got 20 bucks on the line. 1.00

00:47:08.000 Yeah, I do. 1.00

00:47:08.000 10 me, 10 Joe. 1.00

00:47:09.000 There's so many of these cats that are entering into the UFC. I will hold you.

00:47:13.000 And in...

00:47:14.000 There's also...

00:47:15.000 There's some guys that are entering into Bellator, too. 0.92

00:47:17.000 There's some sick Russians over there as well. 1.00

00:47:19.000 I'll tell you right now, when this dude was getting ready for the game plan for Damian Maia, they said, first round, do not let him get on top of you. 1.00

00:47:26.000 Shit hit the fan. 0.99

00:47:27.000 But still, he's got a minute to go. 1.00

00:47:29.000 He got caught.

00:47:29.000 He got horrible elbows.

00:47:30.000 Plenty of time. 0.99

00:47:31.000 He's going to spin for a sick-ass arm bar any second now. 0.99

00:47:34.000 He might. 0.99

00:47:35.000 Corners can go, 30 seconds!

00:47:37.000 Do you like that, though, up against a cage like that?

00:47:38.000 No, it makes it tough.

00:47:39.000 It seems like there's not a lot of room.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, it makes it tough.

00:47:41.000 I have a win-win situation because if I lose your money, that means Damian Maia wins.

00:47:44.000 51 seconds, you guys!

00:47:45.000 I want him to win, so...

00:47:48.000 I think Damien's going to win, buddy.

00:47:49.000 He's going to win in the second and third.

00:47:51.000 He's not going to finish.

00:47:52.000 Dude is too fresh.

00:47:53.000 He's scary.

00:47:54.000 I don't know.

00:47:54.000 I'll tell you that, man.

00:47:56.000 Oh! 0.60

00:47:56.000 Big elbow. 0.60

00:47:57.000 Head up.

00:47:58.000 Head up.

00:47:59.000 Head up.

00:48:01.000 Head up.

00:48:14.000 He's going to try to get his leg under his head.

00:48:17.000 He's trying for that right arm, man.

00:48:18.000 He's trying for that right arm.

00:48:19.000 Yeah, he was.

00:48:20.000 I thought he had it.

00:48:21.000 It looked like he was going to set up for a triangle.

00:48:23.000 His elbows are ferocious.

00:48:24.000 Like a slow triangle right there.

00:48:26.000 Slow triangle right there.

00:48:27.000 Going for it, son.

00:48:27.000 Armbar too.

00:48:28.000 Slow triangle right there.

00:48:30.000 Damian Maia.

00:48:30.000 Boom.

00:48:31.000 Damn you. 1.00

00:48:32.000 Spiderweb right there. 1.00

00:48:33.000 He can't spin to the left arm.

00:48:34.000 I know.

00:48:35.000 He can't.

00:48:35.000 Is it over?

00:48:36.000 No, no, no.

00:48:36.000 Dang it.

00:48:37.000 Save it.

00:48:38.000 We're going to bet some more.

00:48:39.000 We'll bet some more.

00:48:40.000 Let it ride.

00:48:41.000 America.

00:48:42.000 I was right.

00:48:42.000 Nice, fresh twin.

00:48:44.000 I want to take more of your money. 0.96

00:48:46.000 Ten bucks ain't going to do shit for my life. 0.95

00:48:47.000 Oh my god, Eddie Bravo's on fire. 0.99

00:48:49.000 Eddie's on fire, man.

00:48:51.000 One sip of wine.

00:48:51.000 It's the Indian.

00:48:53.000 One sip of wine.

00:48:54.000 The Indian came out. 1.00

00:48:55.000 The Indian came out. 1.00

00:48:57.000 The Indian's fucking crashed out right now. 1.00

00:48:59.000 There it is. 1.00

00:49:00.000 By the way, the Instagram picture of you and Brennan, your head is about twice as big as the heavyweights over here.

00:49:06.000 Yeah, my uncle used to call me Moonhead.

00:49:09.000 I always had a big head, and that really hurt me.

00:49:11.000 Why?

00:49:12.000 You got a heavy wit's head.

00:49:13.000 So now I call all my head instructors Moonheads, because they're like moons. 1.00

00:49:18.000 So now I turn Moonhead into something positive, so I changed it.

00:49:22.000 I regret that training.

00:49:24.000 Moons in the 10th planet system.

00:49:25.000 Where do you teach, Eddie, still?

00:49:27.000 Downtown.

00:49:28.000 It's too far for me.

00:49:29.000 A lot of seminars, too.

00:49:30.000 Where do you live?

00:49:30.000 It's too far.

00:49:32.000 Monday 2.30 is at 8.30.

00:49:33.000 8.30.

00:49:34.000 How's it a packed schedule?

00:49:35.000 How can you say it's too far?

00:49:37.000 I got guys from San Diego.

00:49:37.000 I go there.

00:49:39.000 Yeah, how could you say it's too far?

00:49:41.000 I got too much.

00:49:41.000 Come on down.

00:49:42.000 Brother, why don't you come down, man?

00:49:42.000 You don't have to.

00:49:44.000 Guys, I got a lot of writing.

00:49:46.000 I absolutely love you.

00:49:47.000 Guys, between Kung Fu and my step class, I don't have...

00:49:49.000 You want to show up?

00:49:51.000 I'll dedicate that class just to making sure you leave with something that you can use in your I will definitely take you up on that.

00:49:58.000 This is Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

00:49:59.000 Monday through Thursday, 8.30 at night, no traffic.

00:50:02.000 Boom, you hit downtown.

00:50:03.000 I got people coming from Costa Mesa.

00:50:04.000 I'm not scared of traffic. 0.98

00:50:05.000 Brendan Schaub's a professional, goddammit. 0.54

00:50:07.000 Yeah, he is. 0.80

00:50:08.000 Brian Callen, if you make him walk across the street to get it, he's like, no, it's too far.

00:50:11.000 I couldn't even go to Verdum's if I could walk there.

00:50:13.000 Can't make it.

00:50:14.000 I can't make it.

00:50:15.000 I can't, I can't, guys.

00:50:16.000 It's too far.

00:50:17.000 It's too far.

00:50:17.000 You have your...

00:50:18.000 Hey, you have your Invitational tomorrow, right, Eddie?

00:50:21.000 Yes, tomorrow I have a Jiu-Jitsu tournament.

00:50:21.000 Is that tomorrow?

00:50:21.000 Yes.

00:50:24.000 I put together a submission-only Jiu-Jitsu tournament called Eddie Bravo Invitational.

00:50:28.000 It's at the Florentine Gardens in Hollywood.

00:50:30.000 If you're anywhere in Southern California...

00:50:32.000 And what time does it start?

00:50:33.000 Doors open at 4.30 p.m.

00:50:35.000 First match starts at 6, and we have a 145 16-man bracket and a 170 16-man bracket.

00:50:44.000 We got Gary Tonin at 170. Remember the match we talked about him and Crone Gracie?

00:50:48.000 Gary Tonin is the number one seed at 70, and at 145, Jeff Glover.

00:50:53.000 He's a grappling.

00:50:54.000 He's number one at 145. Glover's a beast.

00:50:58.000 I got some 10th Planet black belts that are basically going to probably end up in the finals.

00:51:03.000 It's going to be Gary Tonin against Boogie, maybe, or if Gary Tonin even gets by Nathan Orchard, one of my black belts.

00:51:12.000 Who knows what happens, but it's going to be fucking insane.

00:51:15.000 Either way, great matches.

00:51:16.000 By the way, Damian Maia is about to mount again.

00:51:18.000 Bad situation.

00:51:20.000 He got him down again.

00:51:22.000 Now let's see if we want to bet.

00:51:23.000 Damien Maia is mounting anyone in the division he gets down there.

00:51:26.000 Now what, guys?

00:51:27.000 Who wants to take a bet?

00:51:29.000 I say the guy doesn't get out of this round.

00:51:31.000 I say he finishes him.

00:51:32.000 I say he finishes him.

00:51:33.000 Right here?

00:51:34.000 No, I agree.

00:51:34.000 I think he's going to finish him.

00:51:35.000 He's going to finish him.

00:51:36.000 What do you think?

00:51:36.000 He's going to finish him or survive?

00:51:37.000 Three minutes?

00:51:38.000 No, no.

00:51:39.000 He's going to finish him.

00:51:40.000 I think he's going to finish him.

00:51:40.000 You know what?

00:51:41.000 I'm a contrarian.

00:51:42.000 He's not going to finish him.

00:51:44.000 Do it, Russia!

00:51:45.000 Look out!

00:51:45.000 This guy cannot get out from under the mount, Brian.

00:51:47.000 This is like watching a blue belt versus a black belt. 0.83

00:51:49.000 It's a bad situation.

00:51:50.000 And I'm not saying this guy's a blue belt, but I'm saying Damien Mai would do the same to so many black belts. 0.86

00:51:55.000 Yes. 0.97

00:51:56.000 He's so goddamn good. 0.93

00:51:58.000 The only thing helping this guy is the cage. 0.95

00:52:00.000 If the cage wasn't there, Maya would be doing some serious work. 1.00

00:52:03.000 Yeah, if they were in the center. 0.98

00:52:04.000 Frank Mir told me that he, like, this is like Frank Mir's goddamn black belt, right? 0.98

00:52:08.000 Everybody says Frank Mir's black belt. 0.96

00:52:10.000 But he told me after he rolled with Damien Maya, he goes, I'm not really a black belt.

00:52:13.000 He goes, I'm like a brown belt.

00:52:14.000 Jesus, really?

00:52:15.000 He really said that.

00:52:16.000 Wow.

00:52:16.000 He said, you can't believe how good this guy is.

00:52:17.000 Come on.

00:52:18.000 Yeah.

00:52:18.000 He's a 1%er of 1%.

00:52:20.000 Does he tap Frank Mir, though?

00:52:22.000 Frank, I don't know.

00:52:23.000 I didn't ask that.

00:52:24.000 That's disrespectful.

00:52:25.000 How dare you?

00:52:25.000 But Frank is a super smart dude.

00:52:29.000 If you've never had a conversation with Frank Mir, he's very smart.

00:52:31.000 Very intelligent.

00:52:32.000 Very well-read.

00:52:33.000 Very well-read guy and very honest, too.

00:52:35.000 He's not a bullshit artist.

00:52:37.000 So when he's telling you about how good Maya is, it's come from a guy who's got an education. 0.95

00:52:42.000 Look how easily he trapped that.

00:52:46.000 Did you sweat that?

00:52:47.000 That move where the guy was trying to hip escape?

00:52:49.000 And how beautifully Maya made that transition back to full mount, like this inevitable...

00:52:54.000 Look at him now.

00:52:55.000 He's got him in the middle. 0.99

00:52:56.000 Dude put everything into trying to get out of that fucking mount. 0.99

00:52:59.000 Look how Look how good Maia's mount is. 1.00

00:53:01.000 With his hooks, he's just controlling his legs.

00:53:04.000 When he throws to explode, he's just taking it away.

00:53:06.000 He's got that arm triangle. 1.00

00:53:08.000 See, you can't get out of that shit like you can with another guy's arm triangle. 1.00

00:53:13.000 Damian Maia has wicked position. 1.00

00:53:14.000 Look how good he's holding this position.

00:53:17.000 Taking the back, taking the back, using that hook. 1.00

00:53:19.000 Oh, damn. 1.00

00:53:20.000 Oh, look, he lost it. 1.00

00:53:21.000 He lost it.

00:53:22.000 Wow.

00:53:23.000 Shocked.

00:53:24.000 Shocked.

00:53:25.000 Okay, he makes it out of this round now.

00:53:26.000 The guy's going to make it out now.

00:53:27.000 Don't ever argue with me, guys.

00:53:28.000 Yeah, he's going to make it out now.

00:53:29.000 You want to think about me?

00:53:30.000 I know fighting.

00:53:31.000 He's going to take him down.

00:53:33.000 Maya's wrestling is pretty on point nowadays, too. 1.00

00:53:36.000 Oh, look at this knee attack.

00:53:37.000 Oh, this guy's game. 1.00

00:53:39.000 Oh, damn, he's got a guillotine. 1.00

00:53:42.000 Yeah, he's got an arm in. 1.00

00:53:43.000 Oh, no. 1.00

00:53:44.000 No, he doesn't have shit. 1.00

00:53:45.000 That's not going to work on Maya. 1.00

00:53:47.000 Maya's got to be hurt.

00:53:48.000 He might switch his doors.

00:53:49.000 He's got to be hurt to get choked.

00:53:51.000 He's just exhausted, I think.

00:53:52.000 Yeah, Maia's pretty tired.

00:53:53.000 Maia's exhausted.

00:53:54.000 That's the only chance this guy has of submitting Maia's. 0.99

00:53:57.000 This guy's no fucking joke, man. 0.98

00:53:59.000 His jiu-jitsu is no joke, though, man. 0.99

00:54:01.000 Good defense.

00:54:02.000 Good defense getting out of that arm triangle.

00:54:05.000 You know, he couldn't get out of Damien's mouth, but look, he's still here.

00:54:08.000 He's surviving.

00:54:10.000 He's going to get swept here.

00:54:11.000 Let's see.

00:54:13.000 Double underhooks with full guard, though.

00:54:15.000 He's not trying to sweep them.

00:54:16.000 He's just hanging on.

00:54:17.000 And then he triangles his body.

00:54:18.000 It never makes sense to me in MMA when guys triangle the body.

00:54:21.000 Not from the ground.

00:54:22.000 Never!

00:54:22.000 From guard?

00:54:23.000 From the back, it makes sense totally.

00:54:25.000 From guard?

00:54:26.000 You're trying to hang on.

00:54:26.000 What are you trying to do?

00:54:27.000 That's what I think he's trying to do.

00:54:28.000 I think he's trying to catch his breath.

00:54:29.000 He's trying to rest, yes.

00:54:30.000 If you go for a body triangle, like he's letting it loose here, but if you go for a body triangle in full guard, you're not trying to set up a submission.

00:54:36.000 You literally can't do anything.

00:54:36.000 There's nothing.

00:54:38.000 It's a stalling position.

00:54:39.000 Sometimes you need a stall.

00:54:40.000 You could let it go yourself, though.

00:54:42.000 The thing about it is you could let it go yourself.

00:54:44.000 You control it?

00:54:45.000 Yeah, so say if a guillotine presented itself, you could always go back to full guard.

00:54:49.000 You could use the real full guard.

00:54:51.000 If somehow or another you could catch something...

00:54:53.000 Anderson used to do that a lot.

00:54:55.000 He used it the most.

00:54:56.000 Strikers are just like, you ain't passing this guard ever. 0.99

00:55:00.000 If you just cross your ankles and the guy has a good knee slice, he could open that shit up. 0.99

00:55:04.000 But when you're putting on the triangle, you're saying, I ain't trying to shit. 0.99

00:55:08.000 I'm just going to hold you. 0.99

00:55:10.000 And sometimes you need to do that.

00:55:11.000 If one of my fighters was mostly a striker and his jiu-jitsu was just coming along and he was in some amateur MMA fight... 0.99

00:55:17.000 I'd say, yeah, figure four is fucking body. 0.99

00:55:21.000 Don't try no triangles or anything, because they'll pass your guard if you fuck up. 0.98

00:55:24.000 You'll see high-level guys, though, in the UFC, in the first round, they'll do some body triangles, which is always crazy to me. 0.72

00:55:30.000 Or they'll be losing the fight, and it'll be like second round, third round, and they do body triangles.

00:55:35.000 From the back or from the guard?

00:55:37.000 Yeah, from the guard's weird.

00:55:37.000 From the guard.

00:55:39.000 It's insane!

00:55:40.000 Because nothing's going to happen, in other words.

00:55:42.000 No, you're losing the fight!

00:55:43.000 It's so critical for the back.

00:55:45.000 You're taking away two of your weapons anyway. 0.99

00:55:47.000 But really, he's losing the fight, and he's like, and this shit's looking really bad. 0.98

00:55:50.000 I'm not very good on my back. 0.98

00:55:50.000 I'm on my back. 0.98

00:55:53.000 I'm not going to let it get worse, so I'm going to put on a triangle.

00:55:56.000 That's what they're thinking.

00:55:57.000 I'm not going to let it get any worse.

00:55:58.000 It's getting really bad right now.

00:56:01.000 They'd rather survive with the guy on their guard than have the guy pass him, mount him, and then really take him out.

00:56:05.000 This Yakulov guy is tough, man.

00:56:07.000 Let's see if he comes on the third round. 0.99

00:56:08.000 He just hit Damian Maia with a hard fucking leg kick. 0.99

00:56:11.000 Let's not forget he's 6'3". 1.00

00:56:13.000 What the hell happened there?

00:56:16.000 Wow.

00:56:19.000 Damien Maia, he's tired, man.

00:56:22.000 He exerted a lot of energy trying to finish in that second round.

00:56:25.000 And I think the 170 cut's tough for him, and we've seen him have problems before.

00:56:29.000 What's he walk around?

00:56:30.000 Like 200 pounds or something?

00:56:31.000 He's a big boy.

00:56:32.000 Yeah, he's not.

00:56:33.000 Is he?

00:56:34.000 Really?

00:56:34.000 Yakilev just nailed it.

00:56:35.000 He probably walks 190. Look at that.

00:56:38.000 Yakolev just took Damien Maez down.

00:56:39.000 He's tired. 1.00

00:56:40.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:56:42.000 So Yakolev's trying to wear him out. 0.99

00:56:43.000 That's why he took him down.

00:56:45.000 He's pushing him right now.

00:56:46.000 Yakolev looks way more fresh.

00:56:47.000 Yakolev looks way more fresh.

00:56:49.000 But you've got to give the first two rounds to Damien Maez.

00:56:52.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:56:53.000 Yeah, he's going to lose this fight.

00:56:53.000 He has to finish.

00:56:55.000 Nasty leg kicks, though.

00:56:57.000 He's hit him with three hard leg kicks in this round. 0.67

00:57:00.000 Let's see if he can land some strikes.

00:57:03.000 It's kind of interesting, man.

00:57:07.000 I love shifts, you know?

00:57:09.000 That's what makes fights so interesting, when you see a guy pull victory out of the jaws of defeat, figure out a way to get out of a hole.

00:57:16.000 Like you thought homeboy was just going to get dominated.

00:57:18.000 I thought he was going to get finished in the first round.

00:57:20.000 Here he is in the third.

00:57:20.000 Yeah, look at him.

00:57:23.000 And Damian Maia can't touch him.

00:57:26.000 And he hits him again.

00:57:27.000 Boom.

00:57:28.000 You know, Maya, these hurt, dude.

00:57:29.000 I got my leg massaged today and I almost tapped out.

00:57:33.000 Guy or girl? 0.81

00:57:33.000 I was getting a massage. 0.81

00:57:34.000 A woman.

00:57:35.000 On your IT? You don't have a guy massager?

00:57:38.000 On the side of your leg.

00:57:38.000 Why is that so sensitive?

00:57:39.000 My calves.

00:57:40.000 But I found a lady who knows how to use her elbows. 1.00

00:57:43.000 Nice.

00:57:43.000 She's really knowledgeable, too.

00:57:46.000 Really knowledgeable. 1.00

00:57:47.000 And dude, damn it, Maya's getting fucked up. 1.00

00:57:49.000 His leg's getting eat up. 1.00

00:57:49.000 With kids. 1.00

00:57:52.000 I mean, I don't know how many of these he's going to be able to take.

00:57:54.000 You know what, he can't feel them right now, but it's definitely taking a toll on him, but you really can't feel them.

00:57:59.000 He won't be able to walk tomorrow, I bet.

00:58:00.000 Yeah, I think you're probably right.

00:58:02.000 Look at this, Domaya gets him down in the mountain again!

00:58:04.000 Mount again, son!

00:58:05.000 Oh my god.

00:58:06.000 This is going to win him the fight, for sure.

00:58:08.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:58:09.000 He's not getting up.

00:58:10.000 The only way this guy's ever getting out of this position is if Maya goes for an armbar. 0.99

00:58:14.000 And why would he go for an armbar if he's dominated the first two rounds?

00:58:17.000 If he's this tired, he's not going to sacrifice position.

00:58:20.000 If he's this tired, no, but I feel like in that first round he should have went for something, man.

00:58:23.000 Could he get an armbar from here?

00:58:24.000 Yeah, you go spiderweb, transition, methodically.

00:58:28.000 High mount.

00:58:29.000 Why isn't he doing it?

00:58:30.000 Because he doesn't want to. 0.99

00:58:31.000 He wants right now to just punch this guy. 0.99

00:58:33.000 He's tired. 0.96

00:58:34.000 He wants to be able to get enough energy for a burst and he wants to be able to get in a position where he's reasonably convinced that he's going to be able to finish it.

00:58:44.000 He just doesn't want to exert everything and wind up in the bottom getting ground and pounded when the bell winds out.

00:58:49.000 Because that's what happened in that one round.

00:58:51.000 He got reversed. 1.00

00:58:53.000 For a guy like that, that fucking sucks. 1.00

00:58:55.000 You know, he doesn't want to feel that. 1.00

00:58:57.000 He's a dominant ground fighter. 0.92

00:58:59.000 That's a terrible feeling that he fucked up and wound up on the bottom that it could have cost him the round. 0.98

00:59:03.000 You know, that kind of feeling? 1.00

00:59:06.000 But look, his mount is like a goddamn building on your chest. 1.00

00:59:10.000 So good. 1.00

00:59:11.000 So good.

00:59:12.000 I love seeing it, man.

00:59:13.000 I know some people at home are like, oh, this is so boring.

00:59:16.000 I literally, there's nothing more I'd like to see. 0.98

00:59:18.000 When you see a guy whose mount is that goddamn solid. 0.96

00:59:20.000 What's funny is you can't really see what he's doing. 0.99

00:59:21.000 Look at his feet, Brian.

00:59:23.000 Look at his feet, the way he controls.

00:59:25.000 When he goes to explode, he takes one of them away.

00:59:27.000 Yeah, it's also his balance and his positioning.

00:59:30.000 It's insane.

00:59:31.000 What it is, is a lot of it is a knowledge of Jiu Jitsu first, knowing what to do in any given circumstance, and then thousands of hours.

00:59:39.000 I thought that guy just tapped.

00:59:41.000 What did he just do?

00:59:43.000 It really is just like riding a wild bull.

00:59:47.000 It's the exact same thing.

00:59:48.000 The same muscles, same balance.

00:59:50.000 You see guys lose mount all the time in the UFC. All the time.

00:59:53.000 But world-class black belts like Damian Meyer, they have that next-level type mount.

00:59:57.000 They don't get bucked off because they've been on longer.

00:59:59.000 He's been in this position thousands of hours since he was six.

01:00:04.000 So to him, this is home.

01:00:05.000 And you're saying watch his feet.

01:00:06.000 Watch his feet.

01:00:07.000 When this guy goes to explode, he's going to take away one of his hooks.

01:00:09.000 Yeah, look how beautiful he transitions.

01:00:11.000 Oh, as he gets dismounted.

01:00:13.000 As he loses his mouth. 1.00

01:00:14.000 Damn, Uriah! 1.00

01:00:16.000 But no, no, no, look. 1.00

01:00:16.000 The guy gets the half guard and boom, right into side control. 1.00

01:00:19.000 And he's going to take his back again.

01:00:23.000 This guy's got to do something.

01:00:24.000 He's got half a minute, so he's got to do something.

01:00:26.000 He's either going to take his back.

01:00:27.000 Look, he gave him the options.

01:00:28.000 He gave him two options.

01:00:28.000 Either take his back or I mount you.

01:00:30.000 Yeah, but dude, go for it. 0.95

01:00:31.000 Set up a triangle.

01:00:32.000 Set up a triangle.

01:00:33.000 He's stepping over right now.

01:00:35.000 Here he goes.

01:00:35.000 20 seconds to go.

01:00:36.000 Let's see if he can pull it out.

01:00:36.000 He's got both arms in, though, man.

01:00:38.000 He does.

01:00:38.000 He might do an arm bar.

01:00:39.000 He's going for an arm bar.

01:00:40.000 He lost the arm.

01:00:41.000 Wow.

01:00:41.000 He's still trying to set it up.

01:00:42.000 Too sweaty.

01:00:43.000 Yeah, too sweaty, my friend.

01:00:45.000 Look at this.

01:00:45.000 He's still spitting on him.

01:00:46.000 I wish he would have done that in the first round.

01:00:48.000 Damian Maia, you owe me $20.

01:00:50.000 The juice is running.

01:00:51.000 You ever see that video where, oh, the guy's back up on his feet. 0.99

01:00:54.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:00:55.000 Oh, he's coming. 1.00

01:00:55.000 Oh, snap. 1.00

01:00:56.000 Big kick to the body. 1.00

01:00:57.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:00:59.000 That was it. 1.00

01:01:00.000 Damn. 1.00

01:01:01.000 The Russian guy's not so happy. 1.00

01:01:02.000 The Russian guy has to be frustrated. 0.95

01:01:04.000 Yeah, not so happy.

01:01:04.000 He got mounted for basically nine minutes in a 15-minute fight.

01:01:09.000 That guy's jiu-jitsu is so goddamn good. 0.90

01:01:11.000 I love it. 0.93

01:01:12.000 But I love the fact the Russian dude made it to the end. 1.00

01:01:14.000 Yep.

01:01:15.000 Very interesting stuff.

01:01:18.000 There's a wave of these dudes coming over, man.

01:01:20.000 I was talking about this with Henner.

01:01:22.000 When guys get to mount, some people freak out like, oh, the fight's over.

01:01:26.000 It's typically not these days because there's not a high-level...

01:01:31.000 Jiu-Jitsu going on a lot of the times.

01:01:33.000 So guys get to Mount and they lose it. 0.89

01:01:35.000 They just think it's over because it's two guys who don't know Jiu-Jitsu and there's a big heavy guy in Mount and he's going to punch his face in.

01:01:41.000 But in most cases, guys are getting out these days.

01:01:43.000 I don't think it's as dangerous as everyone thinks.

01:01:45.000 First of all, keep that Russian guy out of the sun. 1.00

01:01:49.000 Please. 0.98

01:01:50.000 He would start smoking.

01:01:52.000 I was going to say he needs a spray tan.

01:01:53.000 Did you see Michael Chiesa and Trinaldo that last fight?

01:01:58.000 I did not. 0.99

01:01:59.000 Dude, Michael Chiesa's got a goddamn ground game. 1.00

01:02:01.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:02:02.000 Trinaldo's a beast, dude. 1.00

01:02:04.000 Chiesa was mounting him, and it was really hard for that dude to get him off of him. 1.00

01:02:08.000 As soon as he got him down on the ground, it was just smothering, adjusting, constantly adjusting.

01:02:12.000 When I saw Chiesa in Ultimate Fighter, I thought that guy was going to last one second, and he ends up winning it.

01:02:18.000 How about Tony Ferguson?

01:02:19.000 Did you see that Cocoono fight?

01:02:21.000 Oh, dude, yeah. 0.97

01:02:21.000 He beat the shit out of Cocoono. 0.97

01:02:22.000 You know what he told me? 0.99

01:02:23.000 You know what Tony told me?

01:02:24.000 I don't...

01:02:25.000 You know, he's a 10th Planet Purple Belt, so we talk a lot, and he comes to HQ every Thursday night, so he's training at 10th Planet Costa Mesa with Casey, and...

01:02:36.000 He comes to rain too.

01:02:37.000 I see him every Tuesday, Friday.

01:02:39.000 Yes, he goes to rain as well.

01:02:40.000 Great kid.

01:02:40.000 He says, what do you think about Kakuno?

01:02:43.000 I go, my advice was, I suggest shit. 0.99

01:02:45.000 I'm not going to tell a fighter of mine what to do. 0.99

01:02:47.000 I'm just going to suggest it.

01:02:49.000 I said, the only way he's going to beat you is standing. 0.99

01:02:53.000 He's fucking everybody up. 1.00

01:02:54.000 He goes after the liver. 0.99

01:02:55.000 You know, Kakuno?

01:02:56.000 He's like a weird dude who does karate.

01:02:58.000 The worst style I've ever seen in the UFC. All he does is drop dudes with liver kicks and he's fucking people up. 0.99

01:03:04.000 It worked in Japan so well that he got into the UFC. And I said, don't fuck around with that. 0.99

01:03:09.000 Take his ass down. 1.00

01:03:10.000 Tony wrestled in college. 1.00

01:03:11.000 I go, take him down.

01:03:12.000 Tony's jiu-jitsu is insane.

01:03:15.000 It's very good, yeah. 0.73

01:03:16.000 His transitions are sick.

01:03:18.000 I was most impressed with Kakuno that not just he took those punches, but that he got out of that darts.

01:03:22.000 Then I talked to Tony afterwards.

01:03:24.000 He was like, I wasn't even trying to finish the darts.

01:03:25.000 Yeah, he wasn't squeezing, right?

01:03:26.000 He just wanted to get him tired.

01:03:27.000 Get his heart rate up, right?

01:03:29.000 So this is what he told me.

01:03:30.000 I said, I would take him down and go, what do you want to do? 1.00

01:03:31.000 Just don't fuck around. 1.00

01:03:33.000 Don't give him a shot. 1.00

01:03:34.000 Take him down. 0.90

01:03:35.000 And he said, you know what?

01:03:37.000 I'm going to dot him up a little bit.

01:03:39.000 And I think, you know, play with him a little bit.

01:03:41.000 Then I'm going to take him down and submit him.

01:03:42.000 I said, that's what you want to do.

01:03:44.000 Go for it. 0.99

01:03:45.000 I'm like, you're gonna dance around with this guy who's dropping fool after fool with liver shots. 1.00

01:03:50.000 You're gonna give him a shot. 0.99

01:03:51.000 I go, go for it. 0.99

01:03:52.000 That's how he's fucking like Conan the Barbarian. 0.99

01:03:54.000 He does exactly that. 0.99

01:03:56.000 He dots him up, took him down, owned him on the ground.

01:03:59.000 And then stood up and knocked him out with a big right hand.

01:04:03.000 He got tagged in the first round, too.

01:04:06.000 Cucuno tagged him.

01:04:07.000 Cucuno's one of those guys, you get one shot to try and fight him, right?

01:04:10.000 You're not going to duplicate that in the training room.

01:04:12.000 You get one live shot at this dude.

01:04:15.000 I gotta be honest, I was laughing at him.

01:04:17.000 You could get a guy at Cucuno, just his fighting style.

01:04:21.000 This ain't Japan, homie. 1.00

01:04:23.000 You get punched right in the face. 1.00

01:04:25.000 And Tony Ferguson is a monster. 0.94

01:04:30.000 I've been in the MMA industry since...

01:04:33.000 I've been getting paid working in the MMA industry since 2000. I've seen a lot of motherfuckers come and go. 1.00

01:04:38.000 I've seen fighters come and go. 1.00

01:04:39.000 Fight camps come and go.

01:04:41.000 MMA apparel companies come and go.

01:04:43.000 I've seen working backstage at the UFC for eight years.

01:04:46.000 You see them come and go.

01:04:47.000 Seriously, I've never met anybody like Tony Ferguson. 0.87

01:04:50.000 He's an animal man.

01:04:51.000 I've never met anybody like him. 0.88

01:04:53.000 He really is like an Operation 40 secret assassin.

01:04:57.000 He was born to do this.

01:04:59.000 He's studying the game.

01:04:59.000 Is that right?

01:05:01.000 I've never seen anybody study the game like him.

01:05:03.000 In what way? 0.98

01:05:04.000 Dude, he just breaks shit down and puts... 0.99

01:05:06.000 He is learning jujitsu at such a rapid pace. 0.99

01:05:10.000 He's got all these transitions that him and Casey are putting together.

01:05:14.000 And they come up on Thursdays and they show me what they've been working with.

01:05:17.000 I'm like, they're putting insane stuff together.

01:05:20.000 There's not too many guys I'll stop and watch spar, right?

01:05:23.000 Because I have an ego.

01:05:24.000 There's not too many guys I'll stop and watch spar, but when Tony spars, I'll watch.

01:05:31.000 Because he jacks dudes up.

01:05:31.000 Why?

01:05:34.000 Yeah.

01:05:34.000 Really?

01:05:35.000 I like it when a kid comes to the gym.

01:05:36.000 I'm like, how many fights you got, man?

01:05:37.000 He's like, two.

01:05:38.000 And I'm like, oh, who's sparring with Tony?

01:05:39.000 I'm like, excellent.

01:05:40.000 I'll get my rounds in and just watch.

01:05:42.000 He destroys these guys.

01:05:43.000 He said, I'm going to dot this dude up a little bit.

01:05:45.000 He said, I'm going to dot this guy. 0.92

01:05:47.000 This guy's like killing everybody.

01:05:48.000 If I get in a fight, even if the I don't care who it is, I'm going to go, hey bro, just so you know, I'm going to dot you up a little bit. 0.99

01:05:55.000 And then take you down.

01:05:57.000 And not only did he take him down, he got his back and picked him up in one of those Kevin Randleman Fedor slams.

01:06:04.000 It was an epic...

01:06:06.000 Before I die, before I die, hey bro, just so you know.

01:06:10.000 Gundach up.

01:06:11.000 Gundach up.

01:06:11.000 And I'm going to do it like that.

01:06:13.000 Gundach up.

01:06:14.000 You're going to be like that old dude at the newsstand that gets knocked out by some young kid. 1.00

01:06:19.000 Because you think life is a fucking movie. 0.99

01:06:21.000 You want to try that out? 0.99

01:06:23.000 Well, by the way, just so everyone knows, when I hit 55, I'm going on the juice. 0.99

01:06:27.000 Gonna get thick as shit. 0.99

01:06:28.000 I hope so, man. 0.99

01:06:29.000 Gonna shave down, go on the juice, get a second hair transplant.

01:06:32.000 They say that Kakuno has a successful MMA apparel store in Japan.

01:06:40.000 I bet people are going in there and being like, hey bro, you think that style's the best way to go?

01:06:46.000 Because in Japan, he's probably killing people. 0.96

01:06:48.000 He's killing people in Japan. 0.97

01:06:50.000 He's killing guys, but it's all about levels.

01:06:53.000 There's dudes who are killing guys in other organizations, and then they get into the UFC, and you realize...

01:06:57.000 Different animal. 0.99

01:06:58.000 Yeah, you look really good when you're fighting B-level fighters, but when you get in there with an A-level fighter, you're going to get fucked up. 0.98

01:07:04.000 You're going to have all your fucking T's crossed, all your I's dotted, and some guys just don't. 0.99

01:07:09.000 And when your hands are down by your dick, and you're moving around like you're in a karate movie... 0.99

01:07:13.000 You really don't have, you know, you have a unique thing you're doing. 0.99

01:07:16.000 It was super, literally, my brothers called me, we were laughing.

01:07:19.000 We laughed at him.

01:07:21.000 See, but he tagged Tony in the first round. 0.61

01:07:23.000 Oh, dude, that's what I'm saying.

01:07:25.000 For Tony, it's such a dangerous fight, because you only get one live shot at that, and the dude hits hard as hell.

01:07:31.000 He does, so it's like...

01:07:32.000 So you better bring your A game, or you can get dropped.

01:07:34.000 But Tony was, once Tony got comfortable, Tony started lighting him up.

01:07:38.000 Once you figure out that stance, you're like, oh, this is cool. 0.98

01:07:41.000 Then the style looked really dumb. 0.98

01:07:43.000 That's when I started laughing. 0.98

01:07:44.000 He hit that swim move off the back, got him into spiderweb.

01:07:47.000 I gotta see this fight, man.

01:07:49.000 It's an amazing fight.

01:07:50.000 Nice swim move. 1.00

01:07:51.000 How long did it go?

01:07:52.000 I really see...

01:07:53.000 First round.

01:07:54.000 Oh, very end of the first round, that's right.

01:07:57.000 I really- I wish you would have finished the Anaconda.

01:07:58.000 I believe we're gonna see Tony Ferguson versus like Anthony Pettis and Ben Henderson, Gilbert Melendez. 0.98

01:08:04.000 I think he's that fucking good. 0.99

01:08:06.000 What a killer division. 1.00

01:08:07.000 He's a lot bigger than those guys too.

01:08:09.000 And his, at the rate he's getting his jiu-jitsu, I mean his jiu-jitsu is like- Do you guys roll? 0.99

01:08:17.000 Did you teach- Casey Hallstead- You don't pay attention to what the fuck he's saying earlier. 0.84

01:08:19.000 He's explaining that Tony comes and trains there every Thursday. 0.98

01:08:23.000 No, I was watching the fight, bro.

01:08:24.000 You weren't paying attention to it.

01:08:25.000 There's no fight on right now, Brian.

01:08:26.000 He was waiting.

01:08:27.000 Chuck Liddell, that's who I was watching.

01:08:29.000 He was waiting for his time to talk.

01:08:31.000 Chuck Liddell.

01:08:32.000 That's a great commercial.

01:08:33.000 That's an outrageous accusation.

01:08:34.000 That's like Chuck Norris right there.

01:08:35.000 He's the real Chuck Norris, dude.

01:08:37.000 Look at this commercial.

01:08:38.000 It's a great commercial.

01:08:41.000 And he's wearing toenail polish the whole time.

01:08:43.000 Oh, fantastic.

01:08:45.000 Dude, that was like the Dos Equis most interesting man on the highest level, right?

01:08:53.000 That was interesting.

01:08:54.000 When you talk about levels, though, and when you get to the higher levels, fundamentals are everything.

01:08:59.000 Fundamentals are everything.

01:09:02.000 The Chuck Norris commercial.

01:09:03.000 Brendan Schaub's not impressed.

01:09:05.000 You didn't like that commercial?

01:09:06.000 That's alright, man.

01:09:07.000 How does it get bigger than that?

01:09:11.000 It was like the biggest you can get.

01:09:13.000 Yeah, but that's not what it's all about. 1.00

01:09:14.000 He's like, that shit's ridiculous. 1.00

01:09:16.000 He's a fighter. 1.00

01:09:18.000 He can't get into some Chuck Norris.

01:09:19.000 We're going to give you a million dollars.

01:09:21.000 We got this concept for this commercial.

01:09:22.000 You wouldn't be trying to argue with the director. 0.99

01:09:24.000 You would just fucking do it. 1.00

01:09:25.000 Oh, I'd be doing some bullshit. 1.00

01:09:27.000 I'd be fucking a plastic doll. 1.00

01:09:28.000 You'd be fucking a real doll. 1.00

01:09:29.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:09:30.000 Well, I don't have a problem with it at all because it's so unrealistic. 1.00

01:09:35.000 You know, slamming your head into a wrecking ball.

01:09:37.000 It's so over the top.

01:09:38.000 You get the point.

01:09:39.000 The car stops in the midair and he just steps out.

01:09:43.000 You gotta let that slide. 1.00

01:09:44.000 On your shorts, Brandon, you'll have real Don on your ass. 1.00

01:09:47.000 Yeah, that'd be dope. 1.00

01:09:47.000 Real Don? 1.00

01:09:48.000 With a silhouette of a real Don.

01:09:51.000 It's the logo.

01:09:53.000 I thought about getting a guy real doll and using it as a jiu-jitsu dummy. 0.60

01:09:56.000 I'm like, what would be a better thing to use?

01:09:58.000 But you'd have to explain.

01:09:59.000 You'd have to call the factory.

01:10:00.000 I don't want no holes, bro.

01:10:01.000 I don't want a hole in the mouth.

01:10:02.000 Close up all the holes, son. 1.00

01:10:04.000 I don't want a dick. 1.00

01:10:04.000 I don't want a hole in the butt. 1.00

01:10:06.000 You can rent it out. 0.98

01:10:07.000 No, no, no.

01:10:08.000 I don't want additional income.

01:10:10.000 Can you imagine?

01:10:11.000 You're renting it out.

01:10:12.000 But guys wanted to give you...

01:10:13.000 Just because you owned it.

01:10:14.000 It was your real dog.

01:10:15.000 $10,000.

01:10:17.000 Just a session.

01:10:18.000 I find my DNA inside of it.

01:10:19.000 $10,000 cash.

01:10:20.000 10,000 cash.

01:10:21.000 Dig it out.

01:10:22.000 What would it take?

01:10:23.000 It was mine.

01:10:23.000 What would it take?

01:10:24.000 $50,000?

01:10:24.000 I tried it.

01:10:25.000 You call back and you go, all right, one hole.

01:10:27.000 But that's where I draw the line.

01:10:27.000 Just one hole.

01:10:29.000 If a dude wanted to give you a million dollars to borrow, just cash, you would do it.

01:10:34.000 What? 1.00

01:10:34.000 Fuck a guy? 1.00

01:10:35.000 A million? 1.00

01:10:37.000 Are you kidding me?

01:10:39.000 A mil?

01:10:40.000 What are you going to do?

01:10:41.000 I'll take some Valium.

01:10:44.000 That's not what I was asking.

01:10:46.000 You didn't hear what the...

01:10:49.000 He was saying if someone used your real doll.

01:10:51.000 If someone said if he had a real doll, a male one, and some guy offered him a million dollars to bone it, Oh, this is a piece.

01:10:59.000 Hold on.

01:10:59.000 Turn the volume up on this, Jamie.

01:11:00.000 I want to hear this.

01:11:01.000 This is a piece on Ali Bagutinov.

01:11:03.000 Dude, whose names are harder to remember, the Russians or the Japanese?

01:11:07.000 Which ones?

01:11:08.000 I think it's even. 0.98

01:11:10.000 This kid is such a beast.

01:11:12.000 Yeah, he's going to fight Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson, though, dude. 1.00

01:11:15.000 Johnson's some next-level shit. 0.95

01:11:17.000 But he's training with John Dodson in that picture. 1.00

01:11:20.000 They just showed him.

01:11:23.000 Yeah, he trains at Jackson's, right?

01:11:24.000 Is he crushing everybody or what?

01:11:26.000 Yeah, he's won like 11 straight.

01:11:28.000 He's the best little Russian?

01:11:29.000 Oh, he's a beast, man. 1.00

01:11:30.000 He's a beast. 0.59

01:11:31.000 He's a legit contender, no doubt. 0.98

01:11:32.000 But I think if you want to talk about number one pound-for-pound guys, you've got to fucking include this guy. 0.78

01:11:38.000 No one's including him. 0.88

01:11:39.000 I include him in every list.

01:11:41.000 All I hear is John Jones, who's spectacular, Jose Aldo, who's amazing, but you've got to include this dude in your pound-for-pound list.

01:11:49.000 He does everything perfect. 0.98

01:11:50.000 His fucking takedowns are lightning fast. 0.99

01:11:53.000 His submissions, he knocked out Benavidez with one punch. 1.00

01:11:56.000 He's wicked, bro. 0.99

01:11:57.000 He finished fucking Moraga in a war, a four-round war, and then he finishes him with an armbar. 1.00

01:12:03.000 He's the most well-rounded fighter in the sport. 0.99

01:12:05.000 He's the most technically sound.

01:12:06.000 He does everything black belt level.

01:12:08.000 Everything black belt level and his technique and everything is flawless.

01:12:12.000 Everything is by the book.

01:12:13.000 There's no wasted energy. 1.00

01:12:15.000 But Bagutinov is a fucking beast, man. 1.00

01:12:17.000 He's a big dude. 1.00

01:12:18.000 He's strong as shit for 125 pounds, too. 0.99

01:12:21.000 I mean, I don't know what he weighs when he actually gets into that octagon, but look at that. 0.99

01:12:26.000 Boom! 0.99

01:12:26.000 I feel like the little guys are way more happier to get in the octagon and fight, right? 0.99

01:12:30.000 You think so?

01:12:31.000 I feel like it.

01:12:32.000 You think they're more happy?

01:12:33.000 Yeah, what are they going to do?

01:12:35.000 Decision you to death?

01:12:37.000 You know what I'm saying, these little guys?

01:12:38.000 The chances of you getting finished aren't very good.

01:12:40.000 Really?

01:12:40.000 You think so?

01:12:41.000 You're amazing.

01:12:42.000 He just knocked out Moraga.

01:12:43.000 I mean, he submitted Moraga with an R bar.

01:12:45.000 I'm saying it's different, man.

01:12:47.000 I'm saying it's different.

01:12:48.000 Overall, I gotta agree with Brent.

01:12:50.000 Overall, the smaller guys...

01:12:51.000 Well, because your head's the same size as those guys, and you can get knocked out with a jab if you're in the heavyweight division, much less a right.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, I know what you're saying.

01:12:56.000 I feel you.

01:12:59.000 Check out that card, though.

01:13:00.000 Come on, son.

01:13:01.000 Rory McDonald with Tyron Woodley.

01:13:03.000 I can't wait.

01:13:03.000 That's craziness.

01:13:04.000 Are you nuts? 1.00

01:13:05.000 That fight's craziness. 0.99

01:13:09.000 Tyron Woodley pushes the boundaries of how big you can get.

01:13:13.000 That's like a big Demetrius Johnson without the jiu-jitsu.

01:13:16.000 He's a lot shorter than...

01:13:19.000 Roy?

01:13:20.000 Who's like a big Demetrius Johnson?

01:13:22.000 He's like a big Demetrius Johnson without jiu-jitsu.

01:13:25.000 Woodley?

01:13:26.000 Yeah.

01:13:27.000 The speed and the strength and the wrestling.

01:13:31.000 He's explosive.

01:13:32.000 Yeah, but he's like a one-punch guy.

01:13:34.000 I think Tyrone Woodley is getting better every fight, and he's definitely going to mix it up with all the top guys.

01:13:40.000 I know you don't make calls on this, but if you had to put your money on one guy in that fight...

01:13:46.000 Rory McDonald would win?

01:13:46.000 On what?

01:13:47.000 I would never put money on that fight.

01:13:49.000 Just say you did.

01:13:49.000 If I was gonna put money on that fight, it would be totally private.

01:13:53.000 I would never admit who I'd bet on.

01:13:54.000 But I will tell you the possible scenarios of that fight.

01:13:57.000 Yeah, give me the possible scenarios.

01:13:58.000 Rory McDonald is very skillful.

01:14:00.000 And he's very good at using angles and footwork.

01:14:02.000 And he's got a very educated jab.

01:14:04.000 And if you're not used to that jab, you take a couple of them in the face, like Jake Ellenberger is, and you go in a defensive shell.

01:14:10.000 Because you're like, okay, this guy's tuning me up with his jab.

01:14:14.000 You can do it all night.

01:14:15.000 Yeah, and every time I close the distance, his jab is wicked.

01:14:18.000 His footwork is wicked.

01:14:19.000 He moves very well. 0.99

01:14:21.000 And if you get him on the ground, he's no goddamn pickwick. 0.97

01:14:26.000 His guard is very good. 0.97

01:14:27.000 He's very good offensively, defensively.

01:14:30.000 He's got wicked butterfly guards.

01:14:31.000 He keeps your hips elevated. 0.99

01:14:32.000 He's fucking good, man. 0.98

01:14:34.000 The real question with that guy in that fight is can he get past that first storm? 0.99

01:14:34.000 Real good. 0.99

01:14:38.000 Because Woodley's first storm is a motherfucker. 0.99

01:14:40.000 It's like a man versus a boy. 1.00

01:14:42.000 It's like he's so goddamn physically strong and fast and skilled on top of that. 0.82

01:14:47.000 You know, he runs a weird race. 0.96

01:14:50.000 That race of the cutting, extreme cut of weight, extreme muscle density for 170 pounds. 0.98

01:14:57.000 Somebody had a real good point about it on the underground, though.

01:14:59.000 They were like, yeah, that cost him, but would he be a better fighter if he didn't have that?

01:15:03.000 That's the question you can't really answer.

01:15:05.000 Because he's got very special abilities because of that build.

01:15:09.000 He could have been a leaner guy if he chose to, if he chose to not lift weights, if he chose to not eat as much, if he chose to do more cardio.

01:15:15.000 He could probably get smaller, but would he be better as a fighter? 0.90

01:15:19.000 That's interesting because he presents a lot of unique problems because of the fact that he's so goddamn physically strong. 0.61

01:15:25.000 And at 85, if he stayed at 85, he's too small. 0.90

01:15:28.000 He's 170, yeah.

01:15:29.000 85 is too small.

01:15:30.000 He's too short. 0.99

01:15:31.000 Well, I think that comes back to what I talked about with Tim Kennedy, too, which is there should be more fucking weight classes, period. 0.99

01:15:36.000 There should. 0.99

01:15:38.000 170 to 185 is goddamn crazy. 0.99

01:15:40.000 Oh, that's crazy? 0.99

01:15:42.000 206 to 265. Crazy.

01:15:44.000 The fuck we doing? 1.00

01:15:45.000 I think it's fine. 1.00

01:15:46.000 We don't need more weight classes.

01:15:48.000 I think it's fine.

01:15:49.000 I mean, you just got to find your spot.

01:15:51.000 You can't...

01:15:52.000 No, no.

01:15:52.000 Until you're too diluted.

01:15:55.000 Until you're 235 pounds, LeVar Johnson's...

01:15:57.000 Roid it up at 265. That's the game.

01:16:00.000 What are we doing? 0.98

01:16:00.000 You guys are animals. 0.98

01:16:01.000 You guys are animals. 1.00

01:16:02.000 You guys are crazy. 1.00

01:16:03.000 Well, he's an animal. 1.00

01:16:04.000 I disagree with Mr. Bravo.

01:16:04.000 No, no, no.

01:16:06.000 I don't think we need more.

01:16:08.000 I think we need a 225. There's already a lot of UFC. We can barely keep up with the UFC now.

01:16:13.000 You're going to add another weight?

01:16:14.000 Yeah, but that's for the athletes, man.

01:16:15.000 Add more chick weights before you add more guy weights. 1.00

01:16:18.000 You want more chick fights? 1.00

01:16:19.000 That's a good idea.

01:16:19.000 Chick fights are awesome.

01:16:20.000 Are you kidding?

01:16:21.000 I agree.

01:16:22.000 Eddie, I agree.

01:16:23.000 It's fascinating watching women... 1.00

01:16:25.000 With good technique fight.

01:16:26.000 And there's one.

01:16:28.000 There's one.

01:16:29.000 Ronda Rousey.

01:16:30.000 There's a couple.

01:16:31.000 Is legit black belt, right? 0.68

01:16:32.000 Come on, there's a couple.

01:16:33.000 Look at Cyborg.

01:16:33.000 What about Cyborg?

01:16:35.000 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:16:35.000 Cyborg and Ronda?

01:16:37.000 Cyborg and Ronda.

01:16:38.000 Hold up.

01:16:39.000 We're talking about the UFC. I'm not talking about these bullshit amateurs where you're getting knocked out in Muay Thai events on freaking AXS TV. No, no. 0.99

01:16:45.000 I'm talking about the UFC. I'm talking about Cyborg.

01:16:47.000 She's not coming to the UFC. And there's no 145 category.

01:16:50.000 She's going to 35, dude.

01:16:50.000 And you can't...

01:16:52.000 She's going after Ronda. 0.93

01:16:53.000 I'm sorry.

01:16:54.000 No, you're good.

01:16:55.000 No, she can come after Ronda. 1.00

01:16:55.000 You're good. 1.00

01:16:57.000 You're going to have to pass a lot of steroid tests and no one's trying to see that bullshit. 0.99

01:17:01.000 Well, I mean, Uriah Faber might as well get a tan and jump in there and get a boob job. 0.99

01:17:04.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:17:05.000 What are we doing?

01:17:08.000 Uriah Faber with a boob job. 0.99

01:17:09.000 Ronda versus Cyborg is going to be the biggest MMA fight in fucking history. 1.00

01:17:14.000 You're crazy. 1.00

01:17:15.000 Everyone's going to want to watch it. 1.00

01:17:17.000 Yep.

01:17:17.000 Every MMA fan plus their grandmas and their aunts and their little girl cousins.

01:17:23.000 They're all going to watch that one.

01:17:25.000 Do you remember when Cyborg fought Gina?

01:17:28.000 The audience, the screams sound like a Beatles concert.

01:17:32.000 A whole different animal, dude.

01:17:32.000 Here's the problem.

01:17:34.000 Here's the problem.

01:17:35.000 Dude, Cyborg versus Ronda is going to be the biggest fight ever!

01:17:38.000 Nah, Cyborg has some work to do, though.

01:17:40.000 There's a bunch of problems.

01:17:41.000 It's going to happen.

01:17:42.000 Do you train Cyborg?

01:17:43.000 Huh?

01:17:43.000 Do you train Cyborg?

01:17:44.000 No, I don't know.

01:17:45.000 I just want to see the fight.

01:17:46.000 That's the great... 0.99

01:17:47.000 Ronda's fucking everybody up. 0.99

01:17:48.000 She needs some competition. 1.00

01:17:49.000 Right.

01:17:50.000 And Cyborg is very confident she wants her.

01:17:52.000 That makes a great story.

01:17:54.000 Of course she wants her. 0.85

01:17:55.000 She's playing grab ass in the minor leagues. 1.00

01:17:58.000 Hell yeah, she wants her. 1.00

01:17:59.000 If I'm a girl, of course.

01:17:59.000 That's the payday.

01:18:01.000 That's what everybody wants.

01:18:01.000 Of course.

01:18:03.000 That's the payday.

01:18:04.000 But Eddie, don't you think there's an issue?

01:18:06.000 If a woman, let's say she was really taking male steroids. 1.00

01:18:10.000 I don't know.

01:18:11.000 No, she tested positive for it, Joe.

01:18:12.000 She tested positive.

01:18:13.000 She says it was an accident.

01:18:14.000 She says it was something.

01:18:15.000 So no one should ever fight Vitor again?

01:18:17.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:18:19.000 Very different, very different, very different.

01:18:20.000 A man taking a testosterone supplement, his body has testosterone.

01:18:27.000 A man's supposed to have testosterone.

01:18:29.000 When a woman takes testosterone, there's physiological changes that are reversible. 1.00

01:18:33.000 Are you saying a cyborg has male genitalia?

01:18:35.000 No, it's irreversible.

01:18:37.000 They get stronger, they get thicker, they get higher bone density, they get wider, their face structure changes, their musculature changes.

01:18:44.000 I know all that, I know that, and I know, just like Drago, everybody knew Drago was on roids, but they still wanted Rocky IV. You know what I mean?

01:18:52.000 I hate that script!

01:18:54.000 Good point!

01:18:55.000 I think it's bad for the sport.

01:18:57.000 Are we going to pretend that a large percentage of...

01:19:01.000 I mean, what are we supposed to do on this show? 1.00

01:19:03.000 A large percentage of these fighters are on some shit. 0.99

01:19:05.000 That's just the way it is. 0.99

01:19:06.000 Don't you think there's a difference between a guy taking guy stuff and a girl taking guy stuff? 0.98

01:19:11.000 If a girl's taking male hormones, she's changing her gender. 1.00

01:19:15.000 You are probably correct. 1.00

01:19:17.000 I'm not even thinking about that shit. 0.99

01:19:18.000 I'm thinking about, I would love to see the fly. 0.99

01:19:20.000 I agree with you.

01:19:20.000 I want to see Drago versus Rocky.

01:19:23.000 Rondo's Rocky, Drago is Cyborg.

01:19:25.000 I agree with you, and I agree with you.

01:19:26.000 I agree with Schaub.

01:19:28.000 As an athlete, I think Rhonda shouldn't have to deal with someone who may or may not have altered their body in a way that's irreversible and gives them an advantage. 0.99

01:19:37.000 I'm obviously no doctor, so I don't know if that's the case.

01:19:39.000 But what I've read is that they've showed permanent results, like permanent changes to people who've done things like this.

01:19:46.000 But if Cyborg can suck down 35, that'd be a very, very tough situation.

01:19:51.000 Weight cut. 0.95

01:19:52.000 Yeah, she's very big. 0.91

01:19:52.000 Weight cut. 0.91

01:19:53.000 Yeah, I mean, she's very big, so it might even score in that sense.

01:19:57.000 Now, let me ask you something.

01:19:58.000 Now, of someone, a woman who grows up doing vigorous exercise and gets into judo to the point where she goes to the Olympics, while she's growing, does all that exercise do something to increase her testosterone? 0.85

01:20:13.000 Right.

01:20:13.000 It's a very good question.

01:20:14.000 I don't know.

01:20:14.000 Does it?

01:20:15.000 It's a very good question.

01:20:16.000 I would say yes.

01:20:16.000 It's not artificial, though.

01:20:18.000 It's hard work.

01:20:19.000 Still, yes, yes, but I know what you're saying.

01:20:22.000 And of course, Cyborg, there should be suspicions. 0.96

01:20:26.000 Cyborg's a monster.

01:20:27.000 Cyborg's very skilled, for sure.

01:20:29.000 No doubt.

01:20:30.000 She's not just strong.

01:20:30.000 100%.

01:20:32.000 No, she's very skilled. 1.00

01:20:33.000 I think she's a black belt on the ground, correct? 1.00

01:20:35.000 Jiu-Jitsu?

01:20:36.000 No, I think she's not a black belt. 0.99

01:20:36.000 Yes. 0.99

01:20:38.000 She's a brown or something. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Well, let's find out. 1.00

01:20:39.000 Either way, she's a monster. 1.00

01:20:41.000 Hell of a fighter. 0.84

01:20:42.000 I'm just saying, there's certain things that need to happen.

01:20:44.000 As a fan, do you want to see that match?

01:20:47.000 I don't want to see it.

01:20:48.000 Can I get some color on this next fight?

01:20:48.000 No, I don't.

01:20:50.000 I'm just not a fan of Cyborgs when she fights other girls. 1.00

01:20:54.000 It's hard for me to watch.

01:20:55.000 Like, when she fought Gina Carano, I didn't like that.

01:20:57.000 She's a brown belt. 0.87

01:20:57.000 She's not a tremendous fight. 0.87

01:20:59.000 It just looks like two different levels in there.

01:20:59.000 No, I know.

01:21:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:21:02.000 She's a brown belt.

01:21:03.000 It looks almost like a strong-ass girl versus a normal girl, and I don't like to see her just bully him around. 1.00

01:21:09.000 But Rhonda is strong as fuck. 1.00

01:21:11.000 I think would be a great fight. 0.99

01:21:12.000 Rhonda's technique, though. 1.00

01:21:12.000 No, no. 1.00

01:21:13.000 Rhonda's more technique.

01:21:14.000 And she's strong.

01:21:15.000 I've rolled with her plenty of times.

01:21:17.000 That chick is strong.

01:21:17.000 Me too.

01:21:18.000 She's pretty strong, for sure.

01:21:19.000 But Sarah McMahon was more strong. 0.97

01:21:21.000 Look what happened to her. 1.00

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:21:23.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:21:23.000 Can I get some color?

01:21:25.000 Cyborg's the number of fodder girl who's stronger than her. 0.98

01:21:27.000 Rhonda has.

01:21:28.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:21:29.000 But she destroys them with technique. 0.98

01:21:29.000 That's it. 0.98

01:21:29.000 That's what I'm saying. 0.98

01:21:33.000 I want to see it.

01:21:34.000 That would be awesome.

01:21:35.000 Everybody wants to see that.

01:21:37.000 Are you kidding?

01:21:38.000 That's Rocky IV. Except for me.

01:21:39.000 I don't want to see it.

01:21:39.000 I don't care for it.

01:21:41.000 Wow.

01:21:41.000 Weird, right?

01:21:42.000 I see both of your points of view.

01:21:44.000 I want to see it as a fan.

01:21:44.000 I understand.

01:21:47.000 I'd rather watch Misha and Ronda fight nine times.

01:21:51.000 How about that?

01:21:52.000 If the doctors are correct.

01:21:54.000 If the doctors are correct in anything that she did take, You know, gives her permanent advantages.

01:22:01.000 How crazy would it be if Rhonda beat Cyborg?

01:22:03.000 That would be amazing, right?

01:22:05.000 It becomes a real weird...

01:22:06.000 I think she beats her too. 0.99

01:22:07.000 It becomes a real weird discussion.

01:22:10.000 I agree.

01:22:11.000 But when are you allowed to do that?

01:22:13.000 Like, what are you allowed to do to your body?

01:22:15.000 And I think... 1.00

01:22:15.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

01:22:17.000 He caught him behind the ear. 1.00

01:22:18.000 That was a big shot.

01:22:21.000 Dude, this is a mad dash.

01:22:23.000 Yeah, these guys are revved up.

01:22:25.000 Good hit go off.

01:22:26.000 Yeah, good half guard there.

01:22:29.000 It's an interesting conversation, Eddie, because I see your point of view as a fan, and Brendan, I see what you're saying too. 0.97

01:22:34.000 I mean, and I see both of them, because as a fan, if it was on, fuck for sure, I'm watching. 0.92

01:22:39.000 I would hope I would call that fight. 0.98

01:22:39.000 I agree, me too. 0.98

01:22:41.000 I would hope that would be a pay-per-view fight, and I would get to call it.

01:22:44.000 I'm a Cyborg fan.

01:22:46.000 Me too.

01:22:47.000 Listen, I'm sure I'm going to get some hate for this.

01:22:49.000 There's no disrespect to Cyborg.

01:22:51.000 However, I just don't like to see her bully these little girls. 1.00

01:22:55.000 But you think Ronda will win, though?

01:22:56.000 Ronda will beat her, yeah. 1.00

01:22:57.000 Well, then what's the problem?

01:22:58.000 There's no problem.

01:22:59.000 Did you see her kickboxing bout with Jorena Bars?

01:23:02.000 She got knocked out? 0.77

01:23:02.000 Yes, I did. 0.77

01:23:04.000 Well, she got dropped. 1.00

01:23:05.000 Bars is a bad bitch. 1.00

01:23:07.000 Well, people, they're like, oh, Cyborg Glass, listen, she fought a very, very high-level striker in her world in kickboxing, Muay Thai. 1.00

01:23:15.000 She took the lost goods, like, post-fight and everything, she was like, hey, I'm just in here just getting work.

01:23:19.000 For sure, yeah. 0.99

01:23:19.000 You know, she didn't give a shit. 0.99

01:23:21.000 She's just practicing. 1.00

01:23:21.000 No, Cyborg's a monster, man. 1.00

01:23:23.000 It was great.

01:23:24.000 I don't know, man.

01:23:25.000 Look, it's interesting, man.

01:23:27.000 I would like to see it.

01:23:27.000 It's interesting.

01:23:28.000 It's very interesting.

01:23:29.000 But, you know, there's a real discussion to be had for what people should be able to get away with and not get away with as far as what they take.

01:23:38.000 What do you think about Gabby Garcia fighting MMA? She's fighting in MMA. She is. 1.00

01:23:42.000 She is.

01:23:43.000 She's way too big for the UFC. Gabby Garcia used to be very heavy. 1.00

01:23:47.000 She used to be a gigantic jiu-jitsu chick. 1.00

01:23:50.000 Huge.

01:23:50.000 Six foot four.

01:23:51.000 Two hundred something.

01:23:52.000 She's gigantic.

01:23:53.000 6'4"?

01:23:54.000 250 pounds, giant.

01:23:56.000 She's like a giant dude. 0.75

01:23:58.000 Like a 6'3", 6'4". 0.74

01:23:59.000 She's giant.

01:24:01.000 And she would just enter absolute because there was no one ever her weight.

01:24:04.000 She just goes absolute.

01:24:06.000 And she just smashes everybody. 0.99

01:24:06.000 There's going to be an absolute. 0.99

01:24:09.000 I ran into her at Abu Dhabi in Beijing. 0.98

01:24:13.000 I don't think she speaks any English, so we were in the elevator together, and man, it was like a giant mafioso hitman right next to me going, holy shit. 0.96

01:24:23.000 And she just smashes everybody, but there was a Russian leg lock chick on the other side about 180. And she was leg-locking the shit out of everybody on the other side of the bracket. 1.00

01:24:32.000 And I go, oh shit. 1.00

01:24:33.000 This bitch might be trouble for Gabby. 1.00

01:24:36.000 Gabby's just smothering everybody. 1.00

01:24:36.000 Who knows? 1.00

01:24:38.000 And they met, I think in the finals or the semi-finals. 0.98

01:24:42.000 Gabby just fucking smashed her. 1.00

01:24:44.000 That Russian chick was sad. 1.00

01:24:46.000 She was sitting on the side by herself for hours.

01:24:48.000 Just by herself. 0.99

01:24:50.000 But Gabby, since then, she decided to get in the best shape of her goddamn life. 0.99

01:24:55.000 She's ready. 0.99

01:24:57.000 She looks like Frank Shamrock. 0.97

01:24:59.000 She shredded. 0.91

01:25:01.000 She lost all that weight. 1.00

01:25:03.000 She's a fucking machine. 1.00

01:25:04.000 That's a good question. 1.00

01:25:05.000 What does Gabby Garcia... 1.00

01:25:07.000 Who's she going to fight? 0.99

01:25:09.000 She's fighting in Japan.

01:25:10.000 In Japan, they don't care. 0.98

01:25:12.000 She's like the Bob Sapp.

01:25:13.000 You guys, you guys, try not to talk over each other.

01:25:16.000 My bad.

01:25:16.000 Yeah, sorry, both of you.

01:25:17.000 Let's navigate this a little bit better. 1.00

01:25:19.000 I agree, but it's super hard to listen to when people are complaining like a motherfucker. 1.00

01:25:23.000 Should we tell them to suck on cocks? 1.00

01:25:25.000 No, no, no, no. 1.00

01:25:26.000 Let's call these fights. 0.82

01:25:27.000 Slow down! 0.97

01:25:28.000 There's nothing wrong with calling or talking about anything we want.

01:25:31.000 Look how shredded she is. 1.00

01:25:32.000 That's her now. 0.88

01:25:33.000 I wish you would have found a picture of her fat before. 1.00

01:25:36.000 She tested positive for a fertility drug. 0.99

01:25:40.000 I don't know what the fuck did that, but if fertility drugs do that, give me four. 1.00

01:25:44.000 Gabby Garcia tests positive for fertility drugs stripped of her 2013 Worlds title. 0.98

01:25:49.000 What?

01:25:49.000 Women's Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu powerhouse Gabby Garcia failed a drug test from the IBJFF 2013 Worlds and has been stripped of her medals, but it might not be what you think.

01:26:01.000 Hmm.

01:26:02.000 That's interesting.

01:26:02.000 Tested positive for being jacked.

01:26:04.000 For a fertility drug. 0.94

01:26:06.000 I wonder what a fertility drug would do for you. 0.98

01:26:08.000 Dude.

01:26:09.000 What's this called?

01:26:09.000 I think she took drugs, I don't know, man, for like dragon fertility or something.

01:26:14.000 She doesn't have fucking gargoyles. 1.00

01:26:16.000 Can you imagine having a kid with her? 1.00

01:26:17.000 I would like to impregnate her and see what happens. 1.00

01:26:20.000 That is a...

01:26:21.000 You know what I mean?

01:26:22.000 Just as an experiment.

01:26:23.000 I'll pay some child support, but...

01:26:25.000 True.

01:26:26.000 That's phenomenal.

01:26:27.000 Look at that body. 0.99

01:26:28.000 Come on.

01:26:28.000 Gabby is in tremendous.

01:26:30.000 So she's going to fight bitches. 1.00

01:26:32.000 So you're talking about Cyborg. 0.99

01:26:34.000 This is Cyborg times 10. Brian's turned on.

01:26:37.000 I'm a little turned on.

01:26:37.000 Brian's turned on.

01:26:38.000 I'm actually producing estrogen.

01:26:40.000 Look at her body. 0.99

01:26:41.000 That is phenomenal.

01:26:41.000 Look at those obliques.

01:26:43.000 Those are better than mine.

01:26:43.000 Dude, the greatest fight of all time.

01:26:46.000 You're so hilarious.

01:26:46.000 It's going to be Ronda versus Gabby Garcia.

01:26:50.000 Ronda versus Gabby.

01:26:50.000 You haven't seen them lately.

01:26:52.000 I'm sure.

01:26:54.000 You haven't seen me in that outfit, dude.

01:26:57.000 We should actually do me in that outfit and see how I look compared to that. 0.76

01:27:00.000 Wow.

01:27:01.000 She's going to jump into MMA. She's fighting on the same card as Crohn Gracie, right?

01:27:05.000 Yes.

01:27:06.000 That's incredible.

01:27:07.000 That's amazing.

01:27:08.000 That's nuts, man.

01:27:09.000 You know what?

01:27:10.000 My hats go off to her.

01:27:12.000 Look at what great shape she's in. 0.84

01:27:13.000 She's in phenomenal shape.

01:27:15.000 I don't care if she's a chicken. 1.00

01:27:16.000 She's not supposed to look like that. 1.00

01:27:17.000 That's a lot of hard work right there.

01:27:19.000 That's a serious diet, and that's a lot of hard training.

01:27:21.000 Look behind you.

01:27:23.000 That's what she used to look like. 0.99

01:27:24.000 Yeah, that's incredible.

01:27:25.000 I'm looking at that.

01:27:26.000 Yeah, but it's better, larger.

01:27:28.000 Come on.

01:27:29.000 Look how insane that is.

01:27:29.000 That's hard work right there.

01:27:31.000 Yeah, and fertility drugs, apparently.

01:27:34.000 I'd imagine there's some hormonal help involved in that.

01:27:36.000 I would imagine...

01:27:38.000 Oh, guys, look, Nos!

01:27:38.000 I'm not saying...

01:27:39.000 Remember I told you about that story?

01:27:41.000 If you got down...

01:27:43.000 Yeah, if you got down to, like, what is her body fat? 1.00

01:27:45.000 Look at her right there. 1.00

01:27:46.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:27:47.000 Put that over there, dude. 0.99

01:27:48.000 Oh my god.

01:27:49.000 That's recently.

01:27:50.000 That's when she was coaching Vanderlei on the ultimate.

01:27:52.000 Come on, dude.

01:27:53.000 Come on, bro.

01:27:54.000 She's dwarfing Vanderlei.

01:27:56.000 Dude, look how big she is. 1.00

01:27:57.000 And Vanderlei's on the sauce right there.

01:27:59.000 So what is he, six feet tall, do you think?

01:28:01.000 Yeah, he's about 6'1".

01:28:02.000 Dude, Vanderlei's jacked.

01:28:03.000 Look at Vanderlei's biceps. 1.00

01:28:05.000 Holy shit. 1.00

01:28:06.000 She's bigger, dude. 1.00

01:28:07.000 Yeah.

01:28:08.000 I got her.

01:28:08.000 Meanwhile, we haven't called this fight even slightly.

01:28:11.000 Who's fighting?

01:28:12.000 People are going to hate us.

01:28:13.000 Marcio, E-X-A-N-D-R-E, I would imagine, Zandre, and Worley Alves.

01:28:21.000 Alves?

01:28:21.000 Worley Alves is the bald dude.

01:28:24.000 Dude, it's Alexandre.

01:28:26.000 You're like, A-L-E-X... Alexandre Alves.

01:28:29.000 No, no, no, no.

01:28:31.000 Is it A-L? Yeah, it's Alexandre.

01:28:33.000 Oh, well, they don't have it on the site. 0.99

01:28:35.000 His head is in front of his fucking letter and his name. 1.00

01:28:38.000 How stupid is that? 1.00

01:28:39.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:28:39.000 Oh, God, that's so funny. 1.00

01:28:40.000 Look at that.

01:28:41.000 Alexandre. 1.00

01:28:41.000 That's so dumb. 1.00

01:28:42.000 Who's the dummy? 1.00

01:28:43.000 No, it's Alexandre. 1.00

01:28:44.000 Who's the fucking dummy? 0.99

01:28:45.000 We're supposed to know what it says. 1.00

01:28:46.000 Who's the dummy that does that? 1.00

01:28:47.000 That's so stupid. 1.00

01:28:48.000 Who ever did that in the UFC site? 1.00

01:28:51.000 That's so dumb. 0.99

01:28:52.000 Text Dana. 1.00

01:28:53.000 He'll get right to it in 90 seconds. 1.00

01:28:55.000 How could you cover a guy's fucking name with his head? 1.00

01:28:58.000 Did you run out of space, you fuck? 1.00

01:29:00.000 Alves has been taking it to this guy. 1.00

01:29:02.000 I'm sure the guy who designs that website is a very nice guy.

01:29:05.000 I'm sure he is. 1.00

01:29:06.000 He just fucked up. 1.00

01:29:07.000 He has been taking it to him. 1.00

01:29:08.000 He's got the underhook and half gouache.

01:29:10.000 He goes a full gouache. 0.97

01:29:13.000 They're saying jail out there's a freaking superstar now. 0.97

01:29:17.000 They love him. 0.88

01:29:18.000 Isn't that hilarious?

01:29:19.000 Yeah, they love him now.

01:29:20.000 They love him in Brazil. 1.00

01:29:21.000 After all the shit he talked about Anderson and all the shit that the people are so mad they wanted to fuck him up for Brazil. 1.00

01:29:28.000 He's a genius, dude. 1.00

01:29:30.000 And the scenes that I saw from that, I've only seen a couple scenes.

01:29:33.000 He looks really like he's not non-confrontational.

01:29:36.000 He's letting Vanderlei get mad.

01:29:38.000 Vanderlei was so bad on that show.

01:29:40.000 He's a genius.

01:29:41.000 Chael Sonnen is Jack Armstrong, all-American.

01:29:44.000 What did Vanderlei do on the show?

01:29:45.000 He started to fight with him. 1.00

01:29:47.000 He just looked like an asshole. 1.00

01:29:49.000 Chael said every time he'd walk into any room, Vanderlei would be there with a mouthpiece and trying to fight him. 1.00

01:29:53.000 And Chael was like, bro, listen.

01:29:55.000 Behind the scenes, he's like, dude, I'm not going to fight you every time.

01:29:58.000 This is stressful, man.

01:29:59.000 This is for the show.

01:30:00.000 We're doing this for a show.

01:30:02.000 You don't have to do this every time.

01:30:02.000 We're going to fight.

01:30:04.000 And Vanderlei was not having it.

01:30:06.000 So I was on UFC tonight, last Wednesday, and Chael, we were sitting there, and he just got the text that he's fighting Chael.

01:30:14.000 Vitor, you mean.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, Vitor, sorry.

01:30:16.000 Fighting Vitor.

01:30:17.000 And Chael said it exactly how everyone was thinking.

01:30:20.000 He goes, well, one guy, you're kind of like, alright, I can beat him. 1.00

01:30:25.000 Then when it changes, you're like, ah, shit. 0.99

01:30:28.000 Yeah, because, I mean, Vitor, man, you're talking a different game now. 0.99

01:30:31.000 It's a whole different game.

01:30:32.000 Southpaw? 0.99

01:30:33.000 Southpaw, lightning, fast, ridiculous striking. 0.99

01:30:38.000 Let's be as honest as possible here. 1.00

01:30:40.000 Hard as fuck to take down. 0.99

01:30:41.000 Let's be honest as possible here. 0.99

01:30:43.000 Post-TRT, how is that possible?

01:30:46.000 How does a guy go from what Vitor was doing in the UFC, the way he looked, how dominant he was, three fights in a row, knocks out Bisping, knocks out Luke Rockhold with a wheel kick to the head, knocks out Henderson in the first round,

01:31:02.000 looks like a destroyer.

01:31:04.000 On TRT the entire time.

01:31:06.000 What do you chalk that up to as?

01:31:07.000 Well, that's a good question.

01:31:09.000 But here's the big question.

01:31:11.000 How do you get off of that stuff and then get your testosterone to a level where you can fight? 0.99

01:31:16.000 Well, when you have a TRT exemption, I think maybe they can be on TRT 24-7 and they don't have to worry about shit. 0.98

01:31:28.000 They got the exemption. 0.98

01:31:29.000 But now that they're being stricter...

01:31:31.000 There's no exemptions.

01:31:31.000 No, you don't understand.

01:31:33.000 No, there was.

01:31:34.000 Yeah, but they're done.

01:31:35.000 No, no, I know.

01:31:38.000 Now that they're done, does it make the guys go back to the old school way and just say, okay, we've got to cycle in and cycle off?

01:31:38.000 They're done.

01:31:44.000 It's going to be all black. 1.00

01:31:46.000 Because we already know about the stricter rules in steroids, and yet Vanderlei's on them.

01:31:51.000 He just got popped on a cycle.

01:31:53.000 No, no, he didn't get popped.

01:31:54.000 He just refused to take his test.

01:31:56.000 What does that mean?

01:31:57.000 They came to his office or they came to his gym and they said they need a random drug test from him.

01:32:04.000 And he was like, you don't have any identification.

01:32:06.000 Who are you?

01:32:07.000 I need to get my lawyer to look at this.

01:32:09.000 And he said that he always submits his drug results and submits his blood tests at the proper time.

01:32:14.000 You've got to give the guys fair day in court.

01:32:16.000 You can't blame them for that.

01:32:17.000 Okay, that's not a good example. 0.98

01:32:19.000 A weirdo could show up and pretend that he's some fucking UFC representative or a Nevada State Athletic Commission representative with no ID or no credentials. 0.97

01:32:29.000 Bad example, but nonetheless... 0.99

01:32:34.000 Do MMA fighters, do UFC fighters get tested more often than football players?

01:32:42.000 Yes, without a question.

01:32:42.000 Do they?

01:32:42.000 Yes.

01:32:43.000 Football players get tested usually once a year, unless you fail it, and then you get put into a program where you're randomly tested throughout the season.

01:32:50.000 Do combat players just know a few months before they get off it?

01:32:53.000 Listen, I can help you out with this.

01:32:54.000 It's real simple.

01:32:55.000 Combat sport athletes in general get tested more than any other sport.

01:32:58.000 UFC fighters get tested more than any other combat athletes.

01:33:02.000 It was just until recently that they started testing drugs, drug testing boxers. 0.97

01:33:07.000 And a lot of it is Floyd Mayweather saying a lot of shit about guys like Pacquiao. 0.97

01:33:12.000 So he submitted to these random, you know, Olympic style drug tests. 0.98

01:33:18.000 Random.

01:33:18.000 They show up at your house at any time and they take blood tests from them.

01:33:21.000 He submitted to those and he's sort of changing boxing because of that.

01:33:24.000 And he kept saying while he was doing it, we're cleaning up boxing.

01:33:26.000 A lot of guys were kind of perturbed about Manny Pacquiao.

01:33:30.000 That was the big rumors that Pacquiao, yeah, he's destroying everybody, but look what happened. 0.97

01:33:35.000 The guy's gone through eight goddamn weight classes, and everybody's saying that he's on steroids. 0.88

01:33:39.000 I don't know if he's on steroids, but I know that Floyd Mayweather believed he's on steroids, and a lot of other people believed he's on steroids. 0.98

01:33:46.000 We're good to go.

01:34:06.000 The whole thing went down when Vitor tested positive.

01:34:11.000 The Nevada State Athletic Commission after that.

01:34:13.000 Before that, they were considering him for a testosterone exemption.

01:34:17.000 And there was a lot of talk whether or not he would be up for a testosterone exemption.

01:34:21.000 But because when they tested him, he tested positive, they scrapped the whole testosterone program.

01:34:28.000 With VTORT's stuff, man, because you talk about him going on this tear, he was hurting dudes, man.

01:34:32.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:33.000 This means eyes, not the same.

01:34:34.000 Can you test for a human growth hormone?

01:34:36.000 Yes, you can.

01:34:37.000 Only through blood.

01:34:38.000 Yes, you can, but I don't think they're doing that.

01:34:41.000 Only through blood, and it has to be like...

01:34:44.000 You'd have to inject him.

01:34:45.000 They have to test like right away.

01:34:46.000 Oh, Alves tagged him with a right and then got him on the ground.

01:34:49.000 He's got an arm in guillotine.

01:34:50.000 It's tight.

01:34:51.000 It's over.

01:34:51.000 That's it.

01:34:52.000 He's done.

01:34:52.000 It's tight.

01:34:53.000 Yep, he's out.

01:34:53.000 He's going out.

01:34:54.000 Out cold.

01:34:55.000 Out cold.

01:34:56.000 Eddie, what do you think about this?

01:34:57.000 How about a lot of guys don't even go up high on the neck?

01:35:00.000 Like, he didn't go high on the neck there.

01:35:02.000 He just pulled back like a regular guillotine.

01:35:04.000 It's okay if you got a deep grip.

01:35:06.000 No, no, no.

01:35:07.000 Deep grip is one kind of guillotine.

01:35:09.000 Shallow grip, that's another kind of guillotine.

01:35:11.000 That's more of a neck crank shallow grip.

01:35:13.000 But what he did right there where he leaned back.

01:35:14.000 I have to see that again.

01:35:15.000 Well, he leaned back.

01:35:17.000 They'll show it in the replay.

01:35:18.000 He leaned straight back, right?

01:35:19.000 Yeah, he leaned back.

01:35:20.000 He didn't have an angle either.

01:35:21.000 Dude, there's so many guillotines. 0.86

01:35:23.000 There's so many.

01:35:24.000 But statistically, when you've got an arm in, usually the right technique is to go up high on the neck and put weight on the neck.

01:35:31.000 And crush him.

01:35:33.000 Bend him inwards. 1.00

01:35:33.000 And crush the neck. 1.00

01:35:34.000 More of an angle, right? 0.89

01:35:36.000 Angle and bend him into himself.

01:35:38.000 Doing leg curls, smashing.

01:35:39.000 He just pulled back like a regular guillotine, but obviously he put the dude to sleep.

01:35:44.000 Let's see it.

01:35:45.000 Jeez, that was crazy.

01:35:46.000 Yeah, so Alves tags him with the right hand.

01:35:49.000 Oh, welcome to Queer Street, son. 0.99

01:35:52.000 Population, you.

01:35:53.000 Alright, so here, look how he's doing this.

01:35:55.000 He's got it, and look how he's just...

01:35:57.000 No, that's a good regular.

01:35:58.000 He's doing leg curls, and he's bending.

01:36:00.000 He's just a regular arm and guillotine done right.

01:36:03.000 Bending him inside of himself.

01:36:05.000 He's doing leg curls.

01:36:06.000 He's not pulling.

01:36:07.000 He's actually bending down and into him.

01:36:09.000 Watch, look.

01:36:09.000 He's leaning to his right and then bending that thing in.

01:36:13.000 He's going into him.

01:36:15.000 That doesn't look good on his neck at all. 0.96

01:36:16.000 That's a perfect guillotine. 0.92

01:36:17.000 That looks terrible.

01:36:18.000 So what he's doing with an angle is what you would do if you were head on by going up high on the neck.

01:36:24.000 It all depends on what his grip was doing too.

01:36:26.000 Some people like to go ball and socket, some like the pretzel grip.

01:36:29.000 It all depends what he's doing underneath. 0.99

01:36:31.000 Yeah, isn't that interesting how some guys just have that fucking guillotine? 0.98

01:36:35.000 Like, when you saw Joseph Benavidez get that mounted guillotine on Tim Elliott, like, there's some dudes that they just get that arm in there, and it doesn't matter what happens next. 1.00

01:36:46.000 One way or another, they're gonna find a way to finish that bitch off. 1.00

01:36:49.000 That looks like Duncan! 1.00

01:36:50.000 Haha, Duncan out of the fucking mountains! 1.00

01:36:52.000 That is Duncan. 1.00

01:36:53.000 On a Harley.

01:36:54.000 Duncan could have a Harley if he lived in North Carolina.

01:36:57.000 If he went back to Asheville, where he's from...

01:36:59.000 Dude, you ever been to the most more beautiful place than Asheville, North Carolina?

01:37:03.000 No.

01:37:03.000 You ever been there?

01:37:04.000 No.

01:37:04.000 Dude.

01:37:05.000 Really?

01:37:05.000 We did Raleigh, and then after we did...

01:37:09.000 Raleigh's nice.

01:37:09.000 Raleigh's beautiful.

01:37:09.000 Yeah.

01:37:09.000 But after we did Raleigh, we would take a drive into the mountains to Asheville.

01:37:13.000 It's like a utopian community in the middle of the North Carolina mountains. 0.99

01:37:16.000 It's the craziest shit of all time. 1.00

01:37:18.000 Why? 1.00

01:37:18.000 What do you mean? 1.00

01:37:18.000 I have a friend who lives up there, and he was telling me how amazing it was, but I couldn't believe it until I got there. 1.00

01:37:23.000 Beautiful place, super intelligent people.

01:37:26.000 It's a college town...

01:37:27.000 Walking the streets, people, just friendly, restaurants, bars, low population.

01:37:33.000 Asheville, North Carolina.

01:37:34.000 Asheville, North Carolina.

01:37:35.000 Low population.

01:37:36.000 This is how crazy that town is.

01:37:38.000 There's so many trippers in that town that the farmers started putting antifungal properties in the cow's food to make sure that they didn't grow mushrooms on them because it's all rainy up there and psilocybin mushrooms naturally grow on cow patties out there.

01:37:51.000 So these kids are all tweaked on mushrooms all the time.

01:37:56.000 Asheville, North Carolina. 0.98

01:37:58.000 Yeah, so much so that farmers started spending their own fucking money to make sure that they didn't have psychedelic mushrooms growing on their cows yet. 0.97

01:38:06.000 Did you know how many times they had to call the paramedics to get these kids passed out in their barns? 0.99

01:38:12.000 Hugging cows.

01:38:12.000 Yeah, they're like passed out in their barns.

01:38:14.000 Dude, I was so high on mushrooms.

01:38:14.000 Passed out on the roof.

01:38:15.000 It's a problem!

01:38:16.000 It's like they got rabbits, they got kids.

01:38:19.000 Bro, I climbed Big Whizzy Mountain on mushrooms in Wyoming.

01:38:22.000 I was hugging a rock.

01:38:23.000 I had a long conversation with a rock.

01:38:24.000 My buddy turns around to look at me.

01:38:25.000 This is a true story.

01:38:27.000 He turns around to look and I have no clothes on, just my sneakers.

01:38:30.000 And he goes, where are your clothes?

01:38:31.000 I go, I don't know.

01:38:32.000 We couldn't find my clothes.

01:38:33.000 I came back down.

01:38:34.000 I had to ask Patty about this.

01:38:36.000 I had a blue mouth from eating blueberries and I was completely naked.

01:38:38.000 We never found my clothes. 1.00

01:38:39.000 This Alvis is a bad motherfucker, man. 1.00

01:38:41.000 He attacked. 1.00

01:38:43.000 Attacked.

01:38:43.000 Yeah, he's super bummed out.

01:38:45.000 He got put to sleep.

01:38:46.000 Kid's got some traps on them.

01:38:48.000 Yeah, it's so different for you, isn't it? 0.99

01:38:49.000 And the difference between a guy like these random dudes who talk shit on the internet and the impact that has on a guy like you who puts his whole fucking life on the line. 0.99

01:38:58.000 What does that feel like when you lose a fight and then you go on Twitter and see just a bunch of people fucking with you, man? 0.99

01:39:05.000 Yeah, it's not too bad anymore. 0.76

01:39:07.000 I think from doing the podcast stuff like that, people get a sense of my personality. 0.99

01:39:11.000 They used to think I was just like this dick, like cocky dick, you know? 0.99

01:39:14.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:39:15.000 But doing podcasts and doing more interviews and getting out there, I get to show a little bit of personality.

01:39:20.000 But, man, when I lost to, I think, Rothwell, one time when I lost to Rothwell, my Twitter was so negative, it was insane.

01:39:29.000 And then before I was going to fight LeVar Johnson, huge fight in my career, right?

01:39:33.000 You lose that one, you know, who knows what happened.

01:39:35.000 You're probably in Bellator playing grab-ass, getting $500.

01:39:38.000 So, you know, before that one, I stayed off social media.

01:39:42.000 I'd make a post, but I wouldn't read anything.

01:39:43.000 Make a post, don't read anything.

01:39:45.000 That's good.

01:39:45.000 That's smart.

01:39:46.000 And then even before the Mitreone fight, it started to get a little bad.

01:39:51.000 The week of the fight, I don't look at social media at all.

01:39:53.000 I'd make a post and I don't look at it.

01:39:55.000 That's smart.

01:39:56.000 But now, man.

01:39:56.000 That's very smart.

01:39:57.000 There's always douchebags out there. 1.00

01:39:58.000 There is, but I gotta be honest, now it's like I got a lot of support.

01:40:01.000 It's really cool, man. 0.99

01:40:03.000 Well, when you do a podcast, people get to know who the fuck you really are. 1.00

01:40:05.000 It's so easy to write you off. 1.00

01:40:07.000 You're confident, you're big, you're good-looking, probably got a big hog. 1.00

01:40:11.000 They see you, and they go, fuck that guy. 1.00

01:40:11.000 Yeah, big old dick. 1.00

01:40:14.000 I want him to suck. 1.00

01:40:15.000 I want him to be an asshole. 1.00

01:40:15.000 Fuck that guy. 1.00

01:40:16.000 There's a lot of dudes that I read on the Underground. 1.00

01:40:18.000 I don't know if you go on the Underground, but a lot of dudes...

01:40:21.000 I love you now because of your podcast and because of the podcast you guys did with us.

01:40:26.000 The last one you did, they said we really got to see who he is.

01:40:29.000 They were like, you guys have great chemistry.

01:40:30.000 A lot of people don't realize how funny Brennan is.

01:40:33.000 Brennan had you laughing hard.

01:40:34.000 I've never seen you laugh.

01:40:35.000 I wish he could tell all the stories.

01:40:40.000 Can't tell the stories!

01:40:41.000 Can't do it publicly!

01:40:42.000 I'll tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to go get some steak after this podcast.

01:40:46.000 You're going to miss the best podcast. 0.98

01:40:49.000 I got some new shit for you too. 0.95

01:40:52.000 Hey, do I ever, Joe? 0.99

01:40:54.000 Do I ever.

01:40:55.000 Oh, we're going to eat some meat and have a good time.

01:40:57.000 You guys are the only ones I can tell the stories to.

01:40:59.000 I know, of course.

01:41:00.000 It's okay.

01:41:01.000 We're on the internet.

01:41:02.000 What nationality are you? 0.71

01:41:03.000 He's half black.

01:41:03.000 What do you think?

01:41:04.000 Your dad's white and your mom is ethnic. 0.80

01:41:08.000 No, so my mom was born and raised in England.

01:41:11.000 Just a white chick. 1.00

01:41:12.000 Yeah, straight white chick. 1.00

01:41:13.000 And what's your dad?

01:41:14.000 And my dad's German-Italian, French.

01:41:15.000 His dad couldn't look more Native American, by the way.

01:41:17.000 Couldn't look more Native American. 1.00

01:41:19.000 There's a lot of Italians that are basically monkeys. 1.00

01:41:21.000 That's what it is. 0.99

01:41:22.000 The shop got some of that Italian monkey genetics. 1.00

01:41:25.000 So you're just like some big Italian dude.

01:41:27.000 Were you from the East Coast?

01:41:28.000 No, Denver.

01:41:30.000 Denver. 1.00

01:41:31.000 Damn, Alves is a beast. 1.00

01:41:33.000 And so, what was your... 1.00

01:41:34.000 You played pro football?

01:41:35.000 Yeah, college and pro.

01:41:37.000 What team?

01:41:38.000 I played four years at University of Colorado and then short stand with Buffalo Bills.

01:41:45.000 They keep showing this one right hand over and over again.

01:41:48.000 Check you out.

01:41:48.000 Really?

01:41:50.000 Oh shit, Tony Gonzalez. 1.00

01:41:52.000 You didn't know this? 1.00

01:41:53.000 Tony Gonzalez up in this bitch. 1.00

01:41:55.000 Aaron Hernandez. 1.00

01:41:56.000 Weren't you working on this?

01:41:58.000 Bring up Aaron Hernandez and take a look at your friends.

01:42:02.000 Please bring him up right now.

01:42:03.000 Do you know who Pete Holahan is?

01:42:04.000 Uh-uh.

01:42:05.000 That's a white tight end. 0.96

01:42:05.000 Oh, okay. 0.96

01:42:06.000 Bro, I was in Ralph's, and these guys behind me, I can hear them on the cell phone. 1.00

01:42:12.000 Dude, black guy's like, no, I'm looking at this motherfucker right now. 1.00

01:42:15.000 No, he posted bail, son. 1.00

01:42:16.000 I'm looking at him right now. 0.99

01:42:18.000 And I'm like, I turn around like, it's Aaron fucking Hernandez. 0.97

01:42:21.000 I'm like, bro, it's not him, man. 0.99

01:42:23.000 You look so much like him.

01:42:24.000 Bring him up.

01:42:25.000 Bring him up.

01:42:26.000 And then when I jumped in my Prius, they're like, oh, no, that ain't him.

01:42:28.000 He looks like a big Denny Pocopos. 0.98

01:42:31.000 My first black belt, Denny Prokopos looks exactly like Brendan Shaw.

01:42:35.000 By the way, look at Aaron Hernandez.

01:42:37.000 Look at this.

01:42:38.000 Wait, hold on. 0.69

01:42:39.000 That's a good-looking murderer, though.

01:42:41.000 Let's be honest.

01:42:42.000 Put Denny up there.

01:42:43.000 Find Denny.

01:42:43.000 He looks more like a big Denny.

01:42:45.000 Denny's Greek.

01:42:45.000 You have a Greek look.

01:42:46.000 You could be a Greek statue.

01:42:48.000 But there are other pictures where he looks a lot more like Aaron Hernandez.

01:42:51.000 No, he doesn't look like Aaron Hernandez.

01:42:52.000 I'm sorry, son.

01:42:53.000 You know what?

01:42:53.000 I get it all the time.

01:42:54.000 No, no, he does, Eddie.

01:42:55.000 That's just a bad image.

01:42:58.000 Let's go images on Denny.

01:42:59.000 Let's go images.

01:43:01.000 Come on! 0.61

01:43:02.000 Not really.

01:43:03.000 Look at that.

01:43:03.000 A little bit.

01:43:04.000 Come on! 0.61

01:43:05.000 Oh, dude, I rolled with him in San Francisco like a month ago.

01:43:08.000 You don't think you look like him?

01:43:09.000 I told him, stay away from big guys.

01:43:11.000 Yeah, he rolled with me. 1.00

01:43:11.000 Motherfuckers got a back problem. 1.00

01:43:12.000 I told him, stay away from big guys. 1.00

01:43:14.000 Nah, he was dope.

01:43:15.000 He was so much fun to roll with.

01:43:16.000 Yeah, no, he's awesome.

01:43:18.000 Alright, we'll go back to Aaron Hernandez.

01:43:20.000 Yeah, and he does the 10th plant in San Francisco, right?

01:43:22.000 Yep.

01:43:22.000 That's where he runs?

01:43:23.000 Yeah.

01:43:23.000 He came down to Empowers with that Tariq.

01:43:25.000 Let's get some pictures of...

01:43:27.000 Oh, hey!

01:43:28.000 Hey, hey, hey! 0.55

01:43:29.000 There he is, Brennan Chubb!

01:43:30.000 He's got that look.

01:43:30.000 Yeah, a little bit.

01:43:31.000 Same hairline?

01:43:31.000 Not a little bit.

01:43:32.000 A lot.

01:43:33.000 A lot.

01:43:34.000 Good looking dude!

01:43:35.000 Same hairline?

01:43:36.000 Same hairline?

01:43:36.000 Same eyes?

01:43:37.000 You guys could definitely be related.

01:43:39.000 How crazy is it?

01:43:40.000 This dude is in the NFL and shot, allegedly, three people.

01:43:44.000 He's 24. He's 24 in the NFL. How did he shoot people?

01:43:47.000 He shot two people.

01:43:49.000 Self-defense? 1.00

01:43:50.000 Gang-related shit. 1.00

01:43:51.000 What, he's in the pros and he's in the gang? 1.00

01:43:53.000 One of the best tight ends on the Patriots, on one of the best teams.

01:43:58.000 Signed a 42 million dollar deal.

01:44:01.000 Did he grow up in LA? No, he grew up in Boston, right?

01:44:05.000 Connecticut, yeah.

01:44:06.000 Connecticut?

01:44:07.000 There's Mexican gangs in Connecticut?

01:44:08.000 Reportedly having a tough time paying his defense team.

01:44:15.000 He's running out of money, man. 0.99

01:44:16.000 They don't give a fuck. 1.00

01:44:17.000 They're sucking you dry, kid. 1.00

01:44:18.000 Yeah, they don't care. 1.00

01:44:19.000 They don't give a fuck. 0.99

01:44:20.000 How much money does he have? 1.00

01:44:22.000 I heard he has a big old hog, by the way. 0.96

01:44:24.000 A big old hog.

01:44:25.000 I bet. 0.99

01:44:26.000 Dang.

01:44:27.000 What are you thinking, though?

01:44:28.000 Don't you wish you could talk to that kid?

01:44:29.000 24. Millions in the bank.

01:44:32.000 I mean, probably was going to be one of the best tight ends ever in the NFL. Freak, man.

01:44:36.000 Freak athlete. 0.88

01:44:36.000 Look at this. 0.88

01:44:37.000 Look at this. 1.00

01:44:37.000 Ridiculous. 1.00

01:44:38.000 Leroy Horde got busted selling weed. 0.98

01:44:39.000 He was running back for the Cleveland Browns.

01:44:42.000 Look at that.

01:44:43.000 A portion of his $12.5 million bonus was supposed to be guaranteed to Hernandez when he signed a contract extension in 2012 is in dispute, son.

01:44:51.000 And his $1.3 million home is the subject of a restraining order that prevents him from selling it or using it for anything other than paying a future judgment in a civil lawsuit filed by the family of one of the men that he's accused of killing. 0.99

01:45:05.000 This dude is accused of killing three fucking people. 0.99

01:45:07.000 How? 1.00

01:45:09.000 Bullets.

01:45:09.000 Like how did it go down?

01:45:10.000 Is that a club?

01:45:11.000 I don't know.

01:45:12.000 The one he just got indicted on is he pulled up.

01:45:15.000 They're saying he pulled up in a SUV, just shot up the SUV, killed two dudes.

01:45:19.000 And this is before he shot this other dude.

01:45:22.000 They only found out that he did it after he got busted for killing this other dude.

01:45:26.000 And they're saying he killed the other dude because that dude knew stuff about another murder he did.

01:45:31.000 And so then all these other witnesses are done.

01:45:33.000 It's like you kill one person and you're like, well, you know, something.

01:45:36.000 That's a movie. 1.00

01:45:37.000 You kill two more people, you're a bad guy. 1.00

01:45:39.000 Bad murderer, good football player, handsome dude. 1.00

01:45:41.000 Let's call it like we see it, gentlemen.

01:45:43.000 Let's call it like we see it.

01:45:44.000 Let's call it like we see it.

01:45:46.000 Good football player, handsome dude.

01:45:47.000 And he's only 24. That's what's crazy.

01:45:49.000 You know, when you take a dude who's a big super athlete and he's living in some sort of a bad situation and he's just fucking, just a huge, just aggressive, savage dude, and that's why he's so goddamn good at football, and then you expect him to keep his shit together because he got an NFL contract. 0.97

01:46:07.000 Oh, here's $25 million. 0.96

01:46:08.000 Oh, you're from the hood and you're bringing all your entourage with you?

01:46:11.000 That's going to work out great.

01:46:12.000 Yeah.

01:46:13.000 Starting from the bottom, now we're here.

01:46:15.000 Starting from the bottom, now the whole team here.

01:46:20.000 And they also want to prove they're still legit.

01:46:24.000 They're always trying to prove they're still tough.

01:46:27.000 Like, oh, I'm not out the hood.

01:46:28.000 They're still hood. 0.99

01:46:29.000 Maybe he wanted out, and he was trying to get out, but he had done so much shit that there was still some unfinished business that he had to take care of, but he probably didn't want to do it. 0.96

01:46:37.000 He was like, you know what? 0.98

01:46:38.000 I'm blowing up now. 1.00

01:46:39.000 I got to fucking kill this dude. 1.00

01:46:40.000 He's going to fucking ruin all this shit. 1.00

01:46:42.000 He probably killed him to save his career. 1.00

01:46:46.000 He shot one dude.

01:46:47.000 And he got high.

01:46:48.000 That's what you say.

01:46:49.000 I believe him.

01:46:49.000 I don't know why, but I do.

01:46:51.000 But I do.

01:46:52.000 I don't know why, but I do.

01:46:53.000 I got a feeling.

01:46:53.000 I believe him.

01:46:54.000 Aaron got soft, dawg.

01:46:58.000 You've changed, son.

01:46:59.000 People tell me that you've changed. 1.00

01:47:01.000 No shit, I've changed. 0.99

01:47:03.000 Yeah, hell yeah, I've changed it. 0.99

01:47:05.000 Oh, since 10th grade?

01:47:06.000 Oh, really?

01:47:07.000 Yeah, I've changed. 0.98

01:47:08.000 I'm rich as shit and I fight in UFC. Yeah, I've changed 100%. 0.99

01:47:11.000 You're rich as shit? 1.00

01:47:12.000 I'm doing alright. 1.00

01:47:14.000 I like the old Brandon.

01:47:15.000 Really? 0.99

01:47:16.000 Damn, I want to hear that. 0.99

01:47:17.000 Do you have like an outside business? 0.99

01:47:19.000 I know you ain't rich for no QFC. What are you talking about?

01:47:22.000 Are you selling houses or some shit? 1.00

01:47:24.000 He's got sponsors. 0.99

01:47:26.000 You don't understand how much a heavyweight makes, Eddie Bravo.

01:47:29.000 I want to believe it.

01:47:29.000 You know what?

01:47:30.000 Aldo was complaining about that recently.

01:47:31.000 I thought everyone's complaining about it.

01:47:33.000 He was complaining about the pay, the difference in pay between the heavyweights and the lighter weight.

01:47:33.000 Aldo.

01:47:37.000 Well, people, I mean, heavyweights run the world.

01:47:39.000 What do you got, like 50 a fight to show?

01:47:41.000 What's up?

01:47:41.000 50 a fight to show?

01:47:42.000 You can't ask questions like that.

01:47:43.000 Hold on, you can't ask questions like that.

01:47:44.000 It's posted on the underground.

01:47:45.000 Not my new contract, son.

01:47:47.000 What was your last contract?

01:47:48.000 The old one, I was on Ultimate Fighter. 0.98

01:47:51.000 Fucking fighting Mirko Krokop for 10 and 10 like this. 0.93

01:47:55.000 Okay, so you didn't make that much money before, but now you're making money. 0.99

01:47:57.000 Eddie, we got here in his helicopter.

01:48:00.000 Metapharm?

01:48:01.000 They got here on the wings of a Pegasus.

01:48:05.000 Horseback.

01:48:06.000 You can't ask his actual numbers, though, on the podcast.

01:48:08.000 I refuse.

01:48:09.000 Really?

01:48:10.000 I refuse to allow it.

01:48:10.000 I will not allow it.

01:48:11.000 Because you're asking him a question that he might not want to answer, and you're saying it live, and if you do that, you're not giving him a chance to say, I don't like to talk about that shit. 0.97

01:48:20.000 How much does UFC pay you? 0.98

01:48:21.000 Exactly, that's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:48:22.000 Damn, you're quick as fuck! 1.00

01:48:25.000 Damn, that was a serious question. 1.00

01:48:27.000 Look at Gilbert Melendez doing a little commentary. 0.99

01:48:29.000 Yeah, Gilbert's doing it.

01:48:30.000 Kenny Florian.

01:48:31.000 Kenny is an awesome commentator. 0.99

01:48:34.000 Damn, Kenny's hair's all jacked up. 1.00

01:48:35.000 Looks like someone gave him a noogie before he got on there. 0.99

01:48:38.000 He did a great job on my fight.

01:48:39.000 He's in the 1950s.

01:48:40.000 I mean, my grapple.

01:48:41.000 Kenny, by the way, is a clothes horse.

01:48:43.000 He did do a great job at Metamor's.

01:48:44.000 He was doing good.

01:48:45.000 He did great.

01:48:46.000 Your boy Glover could use a couple more. 0.97

01:48:48.000 Glover did good too, although he did fuck up a few times. 0.98

01:48:51.000 Hold. 0.98

01:48:52.000 He could use a couple more.

01:48:53.000 Hold. 0.96

01:48:53.000 What do you mean? 0.96

01:48:54.000 Well, I just mean like he could use, like pause.

01:48:56.000 Like pause.

01:48:57.000 Hold. 0.96

01:48:57.000 You talk too much? 0.96

01:48:58.000 No, no, no.

01:48:59.000 He needs a couple more reps.

01:49:01.000 He needs a couple more reps.

01:49:02.000 Yeah.

01:49:03.000 Dude, commentating is tough. 0.96

01:49:05.000 Everyone thinks they can commentate because they can talk shit while they watch the UFC, you know, when they're drunk and they're comfortable. 0.97

01:49:05.000 It's super tough. 0.97

01:49:11.000 When the camera's in front of you...

01:49:12.000 Insanely tough.

01:49:13.000 Can you be yourself when the pressure's on? 1.00

01:49:16.000 Shit, anybody can catch a goddamn football. 1.00

01:49:19.000 High school wide receivers have great hands, but the difference between a high school football player and a pro football player, can you hold onto that ball when there's pressure? 1.00

01:49:27.000 That's the difference.

01:49:28.000 Can you do it under pressure?

01:49:30.000 The other thing that might have hurt him a little bit is his next Kenny Florin who does it for a profession.

01:49:30.000 You know what?

01:49:35.000 Yes.

01:49:35.000 Kenny was great.

01:49:36.000 Kenny was cool.

01:49:37.000 And there was a couple things that Jeff had wrong.

01:49:40.000 He thought I was setting him up for a triangle the whole time.

01:49:42.000 Like in the beginning, I'm never thinking about a triangle. 0.99

01:49:45.000 So he kind of fucked up there. 0.77

01:49:46.000 But overall, I thought Jeff did a great job for his first show ever. 0.98

01:49:49.000 Doing color?

01:49:51.000 Yeah, he just didn't understand your game totally. 1.00

01:49:51.000 Damn. 1.00

01:49:53.000 And he was honest. 0.99

01:49:54.000 So he was thinking about his own moves.

01:49:55.000 He was honest.

01:49:56.000 When I rolled for the vaporizer, he says, I like to consider myself an expert in jiu-jitsu, and I'm confused right now, Kenny.

01:50:03.000 He said that.

01:50:04.000 He goes, what is going on here?

01:50:05.000 That's great.

01:50:06.000 People were doing tutorials of the vaporizer the next day and the next week.

01:50:10.000 Wrong.

01:50:11.000 They had no idea what they were doing.

01:50:13.000 You talking about metamorphosis?

01:50:14.000 Yes, at the very end.

01:50:16.000 The move at the very end.

01:50:17.000 Honestly, I don't know.

01:50:18.000 I'm not qualified, but I have to say, you were doing stuff, and Joe was screaming because he saw you were getting positioned, but I had no idea that you had positioned before you did it.

01:50:25.000 Joe knew what I was doing the whole time.

01:50:27.000 I was going bananas.

01:50:28.000 As soon as Eddie Bravo gets that lockdown, everybody got crazy.

01:50:31.000 They went crazy when you went from quarter guard to lockdown.

01:50:34.000 That is crazy.

01:50:35.000 They got crazy when Hoyler got the underhook.

01:50:37.000 All the gracies go, yeah! 1.00

01:50:39.000 Because for six minutes, he was fighting for the underhook.

01:50:41.000 He finally gets it. 0.98

01:50:43.000 And they fucking make noise for the underhook. 1.00

01:50:46.000 Crazy. 1.00

01:50:46.000 He's so educated. 1.00

01:50:47.000 That's crazy.

01:50:48.000 He's so educated.

01:50:49.000 And by the way, for the record, And from my vantage point, he never even was in the game with you.

01:50:55.000 And all due respect, of course, to Hoyler, but did you get acknowledged for that from the Gracie camp, or how did that work?

01:51:03.000 You didn't pay attention to that.

01:51:05.000 I'll answer because it's difficult for him to answer.

01:51:07.000 It was embarrassing.

01:51:10.000 Their portrayal of the actual events, it was embarrassing.

01:51:14.000 It's like a cover-up, like a government cover-up.

01:51:16.000 Embarrassed for them, for all of them that commented.

01:51:18.000 Not one of them did an accurate assassination post-fight until they experienced criticism.

01:51:23.000 When they experienced criticism, then people started giving him credit for it.

01:51:27.000 So they were being loyal to their brothers?

01:51:29.000 No, no, no, no, no. 0.99

01:51:30.000 They were being ridiculous and biased and it was sad. 0.83

01:51:33.000 As someone who's a huge fan of the Gracies and a huge fan of Jiu Jitsu and I'm massively in debt, my own personal life for what their families accomplished, I am in debt to all the Gracies. 0.96

01:51:46.000 Elio Gracie, without a doubt, his accomplishments and his art changed my life.

01:51:52.000 Because it changed Eddie's life, Eddie's life changed my life, John Jock Machado's life, who changed Eddie's life.

01:51:58.000 I mean, all of us are directly chained back to Elio's work.

01:52:02.000 That said, their depiction of that fight was an embarrassment.

01:52:05.000 It was an embarrassment to the greatest martial arts family of all time.

01:52:09.000 They weren't accurate in their assessment of what happened. 0.92

01:52:12.000 What happened was, Horler didn't know what to do with Eddie's game, he got wrapped up, he got swept on multiple occasions, and he got threatened twice, and he got his knee fucked up. 0.91

01:52:22.000 His knee popped in a crazy position. 0.94

01:52:25.000 Most people on the planet would have tapped to that.

01:52:28.000 Hoyler decided not to tap to it, and they also agreed to ridiculous rules.

01:52:28.000 Most people.

01:52:32.000 They never addressed the fact that the only reason why he was able to survive was he was allowed to grab Eddie's clothes, but Eddie wasn't allowed to grab his clothes. 0.94

01:52:39.000 They were the most ridiculous rules. 0.98

01:52:41.000 Those rules were an embarrassment. 0.99

01:52:43.000 I was embarrassed by those rules.

01:52:45.000 Because...

01:52:46.000 You tried to change it.

01:52:48.000 They threatened you.

01:52:49.000 They were like, no, no, no.

01:52:50.000 You have to wear the pants.

01:52:51.000 If you don't wear the pants, we're pulling out.

01:52:53.000 The deal was, Eddie wears the pants, and he can grab Eddie's pants, but Eddie can't grab his shorts. 0.80

01:52:58.000 It's ridiculous.

01:53:00.000 That doesn't make any sense. 0.96

01:53:01.000 It's someone who's fighting scared.

01:53:03.000 So Eddie agreed to that anyway.

01:53:05.000 Goes in there.

01:53:06.000 Still dominates the fight.

01:53:08.000 And the one thing that saved Hoyler's life...

01:53:10.000 Hoyler's leg was in a terrible position, but it wasn't in the worst position.

01:53:15.000 The worst position is one step later.

01:53:16.000 And if that guy wasn't able to grab Eddie's clothes, and he wasn't able to hold on for dear life on the collar of his pants, Eddie would have switched.

01:53:25.000 And if he switched to putting his foot on his other foot...

01:53:28.000 If you went to the dark position, after that, there's the vaporizer...

01:53:33.000 And then there's that one step where you take the vaporizer to DEFCON 10. It's ugly.

01:53:37.000 Your leg is getting ripped apart.

01:53:39.000 Your leg's getting ripped apart.

01:53:41.000 I saw his knee.

01:53:42.000 I was like, that knee, that doesn't look natural.

01:53:45.000 But that's only 7 out of 10, bro.

01:53:47.000 That's 7 out of 10. The next three steps are the ugliest shit you've ever seen in your life. 1.00

01:53:52.000 And you see guys scream in agony. 1.00

01:53:54.000 God, that's bad.

01:53:55.000 God, I hate that.

01:53:55.000 It's horrible.

01:53:56.000 That is so scary.

01:53:57.000 But they didn't address any of that.

01:53:58.000 When they put it on their Instagram, their Instagram was all about how great Hoyler looked.

01:54:04.000 And all about Hoyler getting through two submission attempts and smiling.

01:54:08.000 Like, what are you talking about?

01:54:10.000 How about the breakdown?

01:54:11.000 And the end of it, Gracie! 0.61

01:54:12.000 The end of it, Gracie in all caps and exclamation points.

01:54:15.000 Preposterous.

01:54:16.000 Right.

01:54:16.000 So I was embarrassed by it because I think that we all have an obligation to be as honest and as open as possible when we're assessing our friends, our loved ones, our brothers and sisters' performances.

01:54:29.000 There's this weird thing that people do when they start getting biased and they start disregarding the accomplishments of others.

01:54:34.000 If the fight was completely reversed, I would absolutely say, man, Hoyler Gracie dominated Eddie Bravo.

01:54:42.000 He just knew how to sweep them.

01:54:42.000 It was crazy.

01:54:44.000 He got them into bad positions. 0.99

01:54:46.000 He fucked up Eddie's leg. 0.99

01:54:47.000 I mean, very brave of Eddie that he didn't tap, but man, I was super impressed with Hoyler. 0.99

01:54:51.000 Hey, I don't know if they're going to do it again.

01:54:52.000 Maybe Eddie would like to reconsider knowing that Hoyler's game is so tricky.

01:54:56.000 If they were totally opposite, but they weren't opposite.

01:55:00.000 So when I look at it, I have to look at it...

01:55:03.000 Am I biased?

01:55:04.000 Absolutely.

01:55:05.000 Look, I love the Gracies, but Eddie's one of my best friends on the planet.

01:55:10.000 You're probably the top two human beings that I love more.

01:55:13.000 I love you, buddy, but I barely know you.

01:55:15.000 I know.

01:55:15.000 These are my two best friends.

01:55:18.000 You didn't need to put in a discount.

01:55:19.000 I just gotta tell you.

01:55:20.000 These are my two best friends of all time.

01:55:20.000 Well, now it's awkward.

01:55:22.000 So I'm sure I'm biased.

01:55:23.000 But even being biased, objectively looking at it, I get sad.

01:55:28.000 Because I think that what they did was an embarrassment.

01:55:30.000 That's what I think. 0.99

01:55:31.000 All I want to know is where the fuck are the pickles, bro? 0.99

01:55:33.000 I know. 0.99

01:55:34.000 I think we ate them all.

01:55:35.000 We gotta call up Grillo's Pickles.

01:55:36.000 I personally loved how you started that match.

01:55:39.000 Where one hand goes on the mat, you slap the mat, and the other hand goes up and you start waving.

01:55:44.000 I love that beginning!

01:55:45.000 That was a wrestling move, and I never wrestle.

01:55:48.000 It was awesome!

01:55:49.000 I thought...

01:55:51.000 For sure he's going to think I'm going to pull guard, but let me give a wrestling look for a second to freak him out, and then I'll pull guard.

01:55:57.000 I didn't even know what you were doing.

01:55:58.000 It was so great.

01:55:59.000 Bam! 0.98

01:56:00.000 It's hard.

01:56:01.000 It's hard when people get emotionally attached to results.

01:56:03.000 It's hard when people get emotionally attached to a fight.

01:56:06.000 You just made a great case.

01:56:07.000 Guess who does that?

01:56:08.000 This guy.

01:56:09.000 Every fight.

01:56:10.000 This guy.

01:56:11.000 Of course everybody.

01:56:11.000 I know you do.

01:56:12.000 I like everybody.

01:56:13.000 That was a great assessment.

01:56:13.000 I like everybody.

01:56:14.000 That was a great assessment.

01:56:16.000 Well, that's what it is.

01:56:17.000 You know, I mean, even all of them, you know, Even Henner, who I love, his take on it was that you didn't pass the ILIO challenge or the ILIO test.

01:56:29.000 That your style would be ineffective in a street fight. 0.97

01:56:33.000 Which is, it's unfortunately ignorant.

01:56:36.000 Because if they knew that if punches were involved, your style works better. 0.77

01:56:40.000 Your style's more effective when the guy's trying to punch. 0.95

01:56:42.000 Because if a guy on top is trying to punch, he's giving up underhooks, he's giving up overhooks, he's giving up a lot of shit when you start throwing your arms around. 0.86

01:56:48.000 The only reason I'm in quarter guard is because there's not punching. 0.96

01:56:51.000 Exactly.

01:56:52.000 If there was punching, I would get in deeper right away. 0.73

01:56:54.000 But since you could use your hands on top 100% to keep me away and rape choke me and do all the stuff that people do, it's because you're not punching. 0.64

01:56:54.000 Exactly. 0.64

01:57:05.000 Have you ever fought MMA, Eddie?

01:57:07.000 Never.

01:57:07.000 Would you ever?

01:57:08.000 Well, not now.

01:57:09.000 Tell the story.

01:57:10.000 Tell the story about how they were trying to set you up.

01:57:13.000 Tell that story, because that's a crazy story.

01:57:14.000 I've told that story before.

01:57:16.000 You don't even have to say the name of the organization.

01:57:18.000 You don't have to say the name of the organization.

01:57:18.000 Oh.

01:57:20.000 Tell us where it's at.

01:57:22.000 I'll set it up so you don't have to know the name of the fighter or the organization.

01:57:26.000 A prominent Japanese organization that may or may not still be in business came up to Eddie in Los Angeles and they wanted to talk to him about having an MMA. There's no wine in there.

01:57:40.000 Is there some?

01:57:41.000 You guys like that one, though?

01:57:42.000 They wanted to talk to him about having a UFC fight.

01:57:44.000 No, no, no.

01:57:45.000 Not a UFC. MMA fight.

01:57:47.000 It wasn't MMA. It was a grappling match.

01:57:47.000 No, no, no.

01:57:50.000 No, no, no, no.

01:57:51.000 No, it was.

01:57:52.000 Originally, it was a grappling match.

01:57:54.000 That's the only reason I sat down and talked to them.

01:57:57.000 Because I wasn't trying to do MMA. But they go, oh, we want to get you to fight a super fight grappling match.

01:58:04.000 We're going to mix it into our MMA show.

01:58:07.000 And I met them.

01:58:09.000 At the Beverly Wilshire, the raddest hotel in LA. I met him there in the lobby and a representative of this organization.

01:58:18.000 And I said, okay, I'll do it.

01:58:20.000 They go, well, how about if we made it a MMA fight?

01:58:25.000 I said, well, I don't do MMA, no.

01:58:27.000 But we'll make it so that you win.

01:58:30.000 And then the guy who brought me there, I looked over at the guy who brought me, hooked it all up.

01:58:35.000 I looked at him and I said... 0.99

01:58:37.000 What the fuck is going on here? 1.00

01:58:39.000 What do you mean? 1.00

01:58:40.000 What do you say to that?

01:58:41.000 What can you possibly say to that?

01:58:43.000 What if we make it so that you win?

01:58:44.000 Because there's a lot of betting on you.

01:58:45.000 That sounds like they're setting up betting.

01:58:47.000 No, no, no.

01:58:47.000 They're setting you up to go there.

01:58:49.000 You think you're going to win, and then you get in there, and the guy beats the fuck out of you. 0.98

01:58:52.000 I would have never done it. 0.97

01:58:53.000 They tricked you.

01:58:54.000 I would have never done it. 0.98

01:58:55.000 Because you're dishonorable anyway.

01:58:56.000 Why should they do that for you?

01:58:59.000 Japanese culture is very different than American culture. 0.99

01:59:01.000 If they set you up and you go over there, you ain't suing.

01:59:05.000 You're not saying, hey, we had an agreement to do a fixed fight.

01:59:07.000 Was this going to be in Japan?

01:59:09.000 This was the Yakuza.

01:59:10.000 Real quick, I'm excited for this fight.

01:59:12.000 Heavyweights, tough finale, heavyweights.

01:59:14.000 Vitor Miranda...

01:59:16.000 And Antonio Carlos Jr. Antonio only has four fights.

01:59:22.000 Very similar to me with only four fights on the Ultimate Fighter finale.

01:59:25.000 Interesting.

01:59:26.000 Lex Luthor is his nickname.

01:59:28.000 What happened in the finale?

01:59:30.000 Got to do better than that.

01:59:32.000 Cut him some slack, bro.

01:59:33.000 I forget, man.

01:59:34.000 It's hard to keep up.

01:59:35.000 I lost in the finale to Roy Nelson.

01:59:37.000 Oh, okay.

01:59:38.000 I only had four fights, and Roy had, whatever, 25 former world champs.

01:59:41.000 But the thing that helped me, and I've never told you this, Joe, the thing that helped me, I was in a dark place.

01:59:46.000 I've never lost a fight.

01:59:48.000 I lost that fight, and I watched the replay back, and during my walkout, Joe on the broadcast goes, Listen.

01:59:57.000 Brendan has a very tall order.

01:59:59.000 Roy Nelson is a hell of a fighter.

02:00:00.000 He could jump in a division right now and beat anyone.

02:00:03.000 Brendan only has four fights.

02:00:04.000 No matter what happens in this fight, Brendan's going to go on and have a great career.

02:00:08.000 And honestly, man, that helped me out so much.

02:00:09.000 Wow, that's awesome, dude.

02:00:10.000 I'm so glad that helped.

02:00:12.000 That was totally true. 0.95

02:00:13.000 You know, there's a thing about those ultimate fighter situations like that where you get a guy who's got mad, mad fucking fights behind him. 0.78

02:00:21.000 And Roy, you know, Roy was, he was real good and wasn't known for, it was weird. 0.92

02:00:26.000 The show made him known for being a knockout puncher.

02:00:29.000 Yeah, but before that, he fought Andre Arlovsky before he came to the house.

02:00:33.000 He got robbed in the Arlovsky fight. 0.93

02:00:35.000 That was when they were doing that bullshit, that Elite XC. They would stand you up, you'd be on the ground for 15 minutes. 0.98

02:00:39.000 He was inside control, working on a Kimura.

02:00:43.000 He had a locked up Kimura. 0.94

02:00:44.000 Yep, double wrist lock.

02:00:45.000 However, either way you paint it, Orlovsky TKO'd him.

02:00:49.000 He did.

02:00:49.000 Only guy to really do it, too.

02:00:50.000 Only guy to ever do it.

02:00:51.000 But I think that he was more uncomfortable about taking shots back then, too.

02:00:56.000 That's really interesting.

02:00:58.000 But it's interesting if you think about that, the fact that he got TKO'd by Orlovsky, and since then he's been invulnerable to shots.

02:01:04.000 I agree.

02:01:04.000 But look at Verdum.

02:01:05.000 Verdum hit him with everything but the goddamn kitchen sink. 0.99

02:01:09.000 Not really a heavy hitter though, is he? 1.00

02:01:10.000 But he need the fucking shit out of his face, man. 1.00

02:01:12.000 It's true. 1.00

02:01:13.000 And he's taken bombs from, you name it.

02:01:15.000 Took bombs from Crow Cop. 1.00

02:01:16.000 He took bombs from everybody.

02:01:17.000 Brendan Schaub. 0.53

02:01:19.000 I landed some crazy shots on him. 1.00

02:01:19.000 How about fucking... 1.00

02:01:21.000 Yeah, you did. 1.00

02:01:22.000 Dos Santos.

02:01:23.000 I'll tell you what, they just announced Roy Marcant.

02:01:25.000 Yes.

02:01:26.000 But back to the Ultimate Fighter finale, there's a lot of fights, like most commissions went sanctioned in that fight.

02:01:33.000 A guy with four and a guy with 30. They're going to be like, no, we're good.

02:01:37.000 Exactly.

02:01:38.000 Exactly.

02:01:39.000 But because it's the show.

02:01:40.000 I didn't know that.

02:01:40.000 I didn't know that the commissions took those things into account.

02:01:43.000 How dare you do commentary on a fight ever if you don't know that.

02:01:48.000 I'm learning, man!

02:01:49.000 This is my education.

02:01:51.000 Oh, tag him!

02:01:52.000 They'll do it in boxing. 0.62

02:01:53.000 By the way! 0.69

02:01:56.000 They'll do it in boxing if a guy has an extensive amateur background.

02:01:59.000 If a guy is like a world champion amateur boxer and he's fighting in Cuba and then all of a sudden he's in America and they want him to challenge for the title in his third fight, That's not unheard of.

02:02:07.000 That Cuban program is amazing.

02:02:08.000 Well, Russian as well.

02:02:10.000 There's a Russian guy recently challenged for a title, and he'd only been boxing professionally for a very short period of time.

02:02:15.000 Bro, I went from fighting Billy McGee in Denver, you know, where he was scared, and, you know, I was beating him already at the weigh-ins, to fighting Roy Nelson in Las Vegas.

02:02:25.000 I was like, what the?

02:02:26.000 That is baptism by fire.

02:02:28.000 Baptism by fire.

02:02:29.000 Did you know?

02:02:29.000 Roy's got deceptive timing.

02:02:30.000 You knew about him when you went in there, I mean.

02:02:32.000 I thought 100% I was going to knock him out in the first round.

02:02:35.000 I was very naive.

02:02:37.000 I love that.

02:02:37.000 Roy has got deceptive time.

02:02:39.000 You know what?

02:02:39.000 I wouldn't change it for anything, though, man.

02:02:41.000 When he dropped that bomb on Noguera, that was one of the saddest knockouts of all time.

02:02:45.000 Yeah, he went stiff.

02:02:46.000 Dude, that was scary.

02:02:47.000 Hunt Roy is a sick fight.

02:02:49.000 It's a sick fight.

02:02:49.000 But when Roy knocked out Noguera, it was a career ender.

02:02:53.000 It was like, whoa, that was a sign that the fucking wheels have come off the wagon. 0.99

02:02:57.000 This is over. 0.99

02:02:58.000 He measured that, Chad.

02:02:59.000 I thought he killed Congo. 0.96

02:03:01.000 He just measured it, wrote it, and boom!

02:03:02.000 When he hit Congo, I was like, oh no, oh my god, you killed Congo.

02:03:05.000 You know what's crazy?

02:03:06.000 He didn't even start striking.

02:03:07.000 Oh my god, you killed Kenny? 0.92

02:03:08.000 Oh my god, you killed Congo. 1.00

02:03:10.000 He didn't even start striking until 2009. Yeah, Roy's a special, special animal. 0.67

02:03:15.000 That's crazy.

02:03:17.000 You know, he hit me.

02:03:18.000 People think he hit me in the jaw. 1.00

02:03:19.000 Oh, shit, we got a weak-ass jaw. 1.00

02:03:21.000 Grant, he's 265 pounds. 1.00

02:03:22.000 Shit happens when you get hit in the face. 1.00

02:03:23.000 It's weird. 1.00

02:03:24.000 Your brain shuts off. 0.98

02:03:25.000 However, he hit me behind the air. 0.99

02:03:27.000 Directly behind the air.

02:03:28.000 Right behind the air.

02:03:29.000 He threw a double jab. 0.99

02:03:30.000 I slipped the first one, and my head was out of position.

02:03:33.000 Right hand right behind the air.

02:03:34.000 Oh, God.

02:03:35.000 Before that, though, I was putting on a clinic.

02:03:37.000 Fight me now.

02:03:38.000 What's up, son?

02:03:38.000 Don't have four fights anymore.

02:03:40.000 What's up, son?

02:03:41.000 You want it, too.

02:03:42.000 Mark Hunt.

02:03:42.000 You know, I don't care.

02:03:43.000 I don't.

02:03:44.000 I'd rather fight other people.

02:03:46.000 But if it were to happen, yeah, it'd be a totally different story.

02:03:49.000 You know, Eddie, what we were saying about how the Gracies were saying what you did didn't pass the Elio filter. 0.95

02:03:55.000 What was fucked up about that is what we were talking about earlier about when Huron fought Andre Galvao.

02:04:00.000 And he had that match with Andre Galvao. 0.95

02:04:02.000 And just, he was showing his defense off.

02:04:05.000 He let him pass his guard.

02:04:06.000 Let him mount him.

02:04:07.000 Yeah, he let him mount him.

02:04:09.000 You've got to respect that. 1.00

02:04:10.000 That's some gangster shit. 1.00

02:04:12.000 What is gangster? 1.00

02:04:13.000 But not with that criticism, though.

02:04:16.000 You know what?

02:04:17.000 I'll be honest.

02:04:18.000 Obviously, I'm team right.

02:04:19.000 Henner and Huron are like my brother's man.

02:04:21.000 But I haven't seen any of this stuff.

02:04:23.000 I watched the match.

02:04:24.000 I don't see any of that stuff.

02:04:25.000 Nothing.

02:04:27.000 I know they like you.

02:04:29.000 They've never talked bad to me about you.

02:04:30.000 It's not a matter of talking bad.

02:04:32.000 You know what?

02:04:32.000 I don't see any of it.

02:04:34.000 That's why people are like, oh, Schaub's being quiet because he's Team Gracie.

02:04:36.000 I'm not knowledgeable on it.

02:04:37.000 I don't know.

02:04:38.000 I haven't seen any of it. 0.90

02:04:39.000 I watched Metamora, and I was like, damn, that was dope for jiu-jitsu.

02:04:42.000 It was the most talked-about jiu-jitsu match since Brendan Schaub's cyborg. 0.97

02:04:45.000 Not.

02:04:46.000 Pause.

02:04:47.000 Pause.

02:04:48.000 You may have a point there.

02:04:49.000 You may have a point there.

02:04:51.000 A little bit.

02:04:52.000 We talked about it after the fact.

02:04:54.000 Come on.

02:04:54.000 Give it up.

02:04:55.000 After the fact, it was very talked about.

02:04:56.000 Yeah, it was.

02:04:57.000 And you know, it's not that I'm anti-metamorous.

02:04:59.000 I'm 100% pro.

02:05:01.000 I'll promote that show to the day it stops.

02:05:02.000 I love it.

02:05:03.000 Eddie, who do you want?

02:05:05.000 Who would you like?

02:05:05.000 Brian Callen.

02:05:06.000 Jesus fucking Christ. 1.00

02:05:07.000 I love that. 1.00

02:05:07.000 He can't go five minutes without talking. 1.00

02:05:09.000 He freaks out.

02:05:10.000 I love that they're doing it, but I think that you've got to be really careful with your assessments of a situation.

02:05:19.000 If the UFC did that, say if the UFC talked about T.J. Dillashaw and Hennon Burrell and painted it all about Hennon Burrell being tough and amazing, how he got through that fight and it was incredible.

02:05:31.000 Oh, you're saying after the fact.

02:05:32.000 If they did it.

02:05:32.000 Because there was a little bit of that before a fight.

02:05:34.000 Well, that was before the fight.

02:05:36.000 Yes.

02:05:36.000 No one thought that was going to happen the way, I mean, I guess maybe TJ did, but I didn't think it was going to happen that way.

02:05:41.000 I don't know if TJ did.

02:05:42.000 I'm going to be honest with you.

02:05:42.000 I don't know if TJ did.

02:05:43.000 I thought it was going to be a really tough fight.

02:05:45.000 I thought TJ has chances to win because he's got great endurance.

02:05:48.000 If he could take it into the third, fourth, and fifth round and push a tremendous pace.

02:05:50.000 I would say this is matchups.

02:05:52.000 When you get in the top ten, it's about matchups.

02:05:54.000 Number nine could be a horrible match for number one.

02:05:55.000 Right.

02:05:56.000 But anyway, if the UFC painted it in an incredibly inaccurate way, imagine after the fact.

02:06:01.000 Very unprofessional.

02:06:02.000 TJ dominated it.

02:06:02.000 Very unprofessional.

02:06:02.000 It would not be good.

02:06:03.000 It would be super unprofessional.

02:06:04.000 That's exactly what I felt.

02:06:06.000 If they talked about the T.J. Dillashaw-Hennenborough fight.

02:06:08.000 And obviously that is a more dominant example.

02:06:11.000 Because T.J. just lit Hennenborough on fire.

02:06:13.000 It wasn't even a fight.

02:06:14.000 It was amazing.

02:06:15.000 It was the best performance I've ever seen.

02:06:17.000 I agree.

02:06:17.000 And biggest upset.

02:06:18.000 Because everyone's like, Matt, Sarah, GSP? Uh-uh.

02:06:21.000 Because this was five rounds of a straight ass-whooping clinic, son. 0.98

02:06:25.000 There was nothing. 0.99

02:06:26.000 Five rounds. 1.00

02:06:27.000 Ass-whooping clinic and then stops him in the fifth with a fucking head kick. 1.00

02:06:30.000 I mean, the shit was off the charts. 1.00

02:06:31.000 Nasty. 1.00

02:06:32.000 The kid was off the charts. 0.96

02:06:33.000 But what Eddie did to Hoyler was, Hoyler was never once in a dominant position, never once in a position where he was threatening Eddie. 0.99

02:06:42.000 And Eddie, without a doubt, fucked his leg up.

02:06:44.000 So for them to paint this inaccurate picture of it, and then, in their credit, corrected it once they experienced criticism, and actually took the original post down from Instagram. 0.96

02:06:54.000 They deleted it from Instagram. 0.99

02:06:55.000 Which is essentially admitting that you fucked up. 1.00

02:06:58.000 Right? 0.99

02:06:58.000 I mean, that's what it is. 0.99

02:06:59.000 Did Hoyler, did you talk to Hoyler after the fight?

02:07:02.000 At the post-fight conference.

02:07:05.000 We were cool.

02:07:06.000 They were cool right afterwards.

02:07:08.000 They were cool before.

02:07:09.000 Here's the deal, man.

02:07:10.000 This is the internet.

02:07:11.000 This is a different world.

02:07:12.000 You can't get by just on your name anymore.

02:07:15.000 You've got to be cool across the board.

02:07:16.000 You don't get any free passes.

02:07:17.000 You didn't win the lottery.

02:07:19.000 Everything is what it is. 1.00

02:07:21.000 And if you pretend it's not what it is and everybody can see that, they think you're a cunt. 0.99

02:07:25.000 That's just how it goes today. 0.99

02:07:27.000 It's a different world. 0.91

02:07:28.000 And, you know, I appreciate the fuck out of their loyalty. 1.00

02:07:31.000 Wow, look at this beautiful mountain, this fucking dude. 1.00

02:07:33.000 This kid is a beast. 1.00

02:07:34.000 4-0 too?

02:07:35.000 I'll tell you right now, both of these guys, they're both going to have a career in the UFC, whoever wins or loses, obviously.

02:07:40.000 However, neither one of them is fighting at heavyweight.

02:07:42.000 I think one weighed at 214, one weighed at 212 or something like that.

02:07:46.000 230 and 218. Miranda on the bottom is 230. That's on his bio in the UFC. That might not be accurate.

02:07:53.000 He might be preparing for 205 after this.

02:07:55.000 Eddie, is there a guy, a jiu-jitsu guy, straight jiu-jitsu guy, that you would really like to fight that is a huge challenge to you? 0.99

02:08:01.000 Woo, look at that fucking guard pass! 0.99

02:08:03.000 That was sick. 1.00

02:08:04.000 Woo! 0.99

02:08:04.000 He was trying to get back. 0.99

02:08:08.000 He was trying to hip escape, and the dude passed his guard and got into side control like a wizard.

02:08:12.000 But look at this.

02:08:15.000 Yeah, man. 1.00

02:08:16.000 Antonio Carlos Jr. is a bad motherfucker. 1.00

02:08:18.000 No, you know what? 1.00

02:08:19.000 I think, um...

02:08:25.000 I mean, I think that match was super important.

02:08:27.000 I think it was super important for you.

02:08:29.000 I think it was super important for jiu-jitsu. 0.67

02:08:31.000 And I think that it showed that jiu-jitsu matches can be super fucking exciting.

02:08:35.000 And I think it opens up the door to a possible future in having some sort of a professional...

02:08:41.000 He's going for a leg lock, son.

02:08:42.000 Look at this.

02:08:43.000 Ooh, that's dirty.

02:08:45.000 He's attacking the leg.

02:08:47.000 Look at that bass.

02:08:48.000 Professional bass.

02:08:49.000 Eddie, would you change the rules of Metamorris, though?

02:08:51.000 As in, is there something they can do to make it...

02:08:53.000 I don't know.

02:08:54.000 Well, submission only, I think, is the way to go.

02:08:57.000 Well, it should be submission only for sure, but since Metamorris is in a tournament, it's a single match, it should be more winner-take-all, or serious difference between show money and submission money.

02:09:11.000 Like, it should be a thousand bucks to show for, you know, or...

02:09:17.000 7,000 if you sell.

02:09:18.000 It's got to be...

02:09:19.000 Right.

02:09:20.000 So people go for their submission.

02:09:21.000 You have to.

02:09:22.000 It's got to be like that.

02:09:23.000 If you're going to have single matches, the money will create the urgency that creates the entertainment.

02:09:29.000 Look at this rubber guard, son.

02:09:30.000 Otherwise, you get this weird kind of stalemate that lasts for 20 minutes, man.

02:09:35.000 Sort of.

02:09:35.000 You've got to make it worth it to submit.

02:09:37.000 That's what we're trying to do.

02:09:38.000 My tournament is all about fixing the...

02:09:43.000 The boringness of jiu-jitsu.

02:09:44.000 That's what I'm trying to do.

02:09:45.000 I'm not trying to make money putting together this tournament.

02:09:47.000 Money is not a goal at all.

02:09:49.000 I'm losing money on my first tournament.

02:09:52.000 We're just trying to put together jiu-jitsu for TV. It should be on TV already, but it's not on TV. Oh, sick triangle, son!

02:10:01.000 Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh! 0.93

02:10:02.000 Oh! 0.60

02:10:03.000 So close!

02:10:04.000 Beautiful pass. 0.98

02:10:06.000 This Antonio kid is nasty, man. 0.88

02:10:08.000 I like this. 0.98

02:10:08.000 He hesitated on that cinch. 0.98

02:10:10.000 Man, he had that triangle there. 1.00

02:10:12.000 Miranda's a fucking beast too, man. 1.00

02:10:14.000 But look at Antonio's. 1.00

02:10:15.000 Back to his half guard, sneaking up the back door on him.

02:10:18.000 Is there a guy you'd like to- Isn't that crazy?

02:10:20.000 They're stopping him from throwing those elbows. 0.99

02:10:22.000 That is so ridiculous. 0.96

02:10:23.000 Why are they stopping him? 0.99

02:10:24.000 Why?

02:10:24.000 To the thigh!

02:10:25.000 Because they're illegal.

02:10:26.000 The 12-6 elbows are illegal on your thigh.

02:10:28.000 Why?

02:10:29.000 Why? 1.00

02:10:29.000 It's so stupid. 1.00

02:10:31.000 Because it's a rule that was- 12-6 elbows are illegal anywhere. 1.00

02:10:34.000 It was created when they were worried about people killing people way back in the day.

02:10:38.000 Because hitting in the back of the head or something?

02:10:39.000 No, no, no, no.

02:10:40.000 He's hitting the thigh, man.

02:10:42.000 So what?

02:10:42.000 I don't understand.

02:10:42.000 No, I've explained it a million times.

02:10:45.000 You've never paid attention once because you're not a real MMA fan.

02:10:48.000 So I'll do it one last time.

02:10:50.000 Come on, there are other people that aren't.

02:10:51.000 When Big John McCarthy was first talking to the athletic commissions...

02:10:55.000 Right.

02:10:55.000 Trying to get the UFC legal.

02:10:57.000 They wouldn't let the downward elbow in because they saw those karate demonstrations at 2 o'clock in the morning where dudes would break bricks with their elbows.

02:11:04.000 Come on, really? 0.97

02:11:05.000 I'm not bullshit.

02:11:05.000 Really?

02:11:05.000 It's so stupid.

02:11:06.000 Oh, that's amazing! 1.00

02:11:07.000 It's the dumbest shit ever. 1.00

02:11:08.000 And it proves that you're not a real MMA fan because you don't know that. 1.00

02:11:12.000 So now that we've established that, don't ever say a guy can hit a guy with a right hand again.

02:11:17.000 I want to be in the club.

02:11:19.000 I want to be in the club.

02:11:20.000 Eddie, is there a guy out there, a jiu-jitsu guy, that you would love to fight who you think would be a huge challenge to you?

02:11:27.000 Whoever would generate the biggest payday.

02:11:31.000 Wait, hold on.

02:11:31.000 Okay, so let me throw a name out.

02:11:33.000 I don't hate anybody.

02:11:33.000 I'm not trying to challenge anybody.

02:11:34.000 He's like the Floyd Mayweather of jiu-jitsu.

02:11:36.000 Hold, hold.

02:11:36.000 He's like Floyd Mayweather of jiu-jitsu, son.

02:11:38.000 Let me throw a name out.

02:11:39.000 Marcelo Garcia.

02:11:40.000 No.

02:11:41.000 I'm not going to call...

02:11:42.000 Listen, listen.

02:11:43.000 Preparing for that match was very stressful.

02:11:47.000 It took me away from my family.

02:11:49.000 All day I'm thinking about training.

02:11:52.000 It just put my life on hold.

02:11:54.000 It was stressful.

02:11:55.000 I had to do it, and I did it 100%. 1.00

02:11:57.000 Train like a fucking Olympian. 1.00

02:11:59.000 And you proved yourself. 0.99

02:11:59.000 Yeah, and after that match, I don't want to put any names out there. 0.99

02:12:04.000 I'm not going to challenge anybody.

02:12:06.000 I'm going to rest for a while, and when I come back...

02:12:09.000 The only names I'm going to bring up, I'm not going to bring up any names now, are names that are going to generate the most money.

02:12:15.000 At the end of the day, you have nothing to prove.

02:12:17.000 I have nothing to prove.

02:12:18.000 You've done it.

02:12:19.000 You did it.

02:12:20.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:12:21.000 And if I went against Marcelo Garcia, he would fucking smash me. 0.99

02:12:24.000 That would be a dumb move. 0.99

02:12:25.000 And plus, he's a really good friend of mine. 0.99

02:12:28.000 Marcelo Garcia is fucking amazing. 0.97

02:12:31.000 I was talking to Yves Edwards. 0.97

02:12:33.000 As he was taking him down, as he was taking Marcelo Garcia down, he said, he already had him submitted.

02:12:37.000 On a side note, this fight is dope.

02:12:39.000 Brian, would you shut your yapper for two seconds?

02:12:42.000 Will you shut your yapper for two seconds about jiu-jitsu?

02:12:45.000 I find a hard time believing you really want to know the answer to that question.

02:12:49.000 I think you just wanted to talk.

02:12:50.000 Is this the main event?

02:12:52.000 No, this is the co-main event.

02:12:55.000 This is to win the Ultimate Fighter Heavyweight Brazil.

02:12:57.000 Brian, you've got to not talk over people, man.

02:13:00.000 You're really bad at it.

02:13:01.000 I am not talking over people. 0.98

02:13:03.000 This Antonio Carlos Jr. is a beast, man.

02:13:06.000 I'm super impressed by this kid.

02:13:08.000 Why are you talking about this fight?

02:13:11.000 We're talking about Eddie Bravo, bro.

02:13:13.000 What about Metamorris?

02:13:14.000 Yeah, you guys now tune in to the fights.

02:13:17.000 You and Joe finally tuning in to the fights and scolding me.

02:13:21.000 You know, one thing I want to make clear before we end, Henzo Gracie, I love you to death.

02:13:25.000 The Gracies are a giant family.

02:13:27.000 There's so many awesome Gracies in there. 0.99

02:13:29.000 There's only a couple that I'm not particularly interested in hanging out with, but there's a lot of Gracies that are awesome. 0.93

02:13:35.000 Clark Gracie, Rose Gracie is one of the coolest chicks on the planet. 1.00

02:13:41.000 Henner, Huron.

02:13:42.000 I feel you, dog.

02:13:43.000 There's people in my family that I don't want to talk to.

02:13:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:13:47.000 So, the Gracies are giant. 0.99

02:13:49.000 Henson's one of my favorite people of all time.

02:13:51.000 And I should be real clear.

02:13:52.000 I love Huron.

02:13:53.000 I love Henner.

02:13:54.000 I love Halleck.

02:13:55.000 I love all those dudes.

02:13:56.000 I do.

02:13:57.000 I think they're awesome.

02:13:58.000 I just think the way this situation was handled could have been done way better.

02:14:02.000 And if they were having a debate with someone, if they had to have a debate with, say, a guy like Jeff Glover, an impartial observer, I guarantee you...

02:14:10.000 Jeff Glover's point of view and their point of view would be vastly different.

02:14:13.000 I just don't think that they handled it well.

02:14:15.000 Either way, good for jiu-jitsu.

02:14:16.000 We're talking about it.

02:14:17.000 Great for jiu-jitsu.

02:14:18.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:14:20.000 Eddie Bravo's the Floyd Wayweather of jiu-jitsu.

02:14:23.000 Show him the money.

02:14:24.000 All right, Brian?

02:14:25.000 Will you shut your yapper about jiu-jitsu for two seconds? 0.99

02:14:28.000 If I'm going to shut down my life again and do swim sprints, which are fucking torture. 0.99

02:14:34.000 What are swim sprints? 0.99

02:14:36.000 You know, it's like sprinting in a pool.

02:14:38.000 Ouch.

02:14:39.000 You're just swimming as fast as you can. 1.00

02:14:41.000 Dude, it would fucking kill. 0.99

02:14:43.000 You said what are swim sprints, man? 1.00

02:14:45.000 That's crazy.

02:14:46.000 Hey, sorry, I'm not a professional athlete.

02:14:48.000 Sprint?

02:14:48.000 Swimming?

02:14:50.000 That's what I figured it was.

02:14:51.000 A week from now, Brian will be on his own podcast talking about how he does swim sprints.

02:14:58.000 You know I will.

02:14:59.000 You know I will, dude.

02:15:01.000 The minute I hear stuff, I go, hmm.

02:15:03.000 Especially if he has a chick on. 0.67

02:15:05.000 I need my sprint.

02:15:06.000 I've got to get my sprints.

02:15:07.000 If he has a chick on, he'll be like, I find that swim sprints help me the most. 0.98

02:15:12.000 You know, when I was training for the Worlds, I guess, whatever.

02:15:15.000 I never wound up fighting, but I was just busy with a lot of other stuff, a lot of film projects.

02:15:19.000 A lot of film stuff.

02:15:20.000 Really close with Marky Mark.

02:15:22.000 It was a time...

02:15:24.000 Are you close?

02:15:26.000 No, but I like that.

02:15:27.000 I like that.

02:15:28.000 You didn't really do a lot of strength and conditioning.

02:15:30.000 I was just naturally supple.

02:15:32.000 Who's really good friends with Leonardo DiCaprio?

02:15:35.000 You had a friend?

02:15:35.000 Mike Young.

02:15:36.000 Okay, that's right.

02:15:36.000 It wasn't you?

02:15:37.000 No, I played pickup basketball with him once.

02:15:39.000 He was wearing a barrette.

02:15:40.000 Did he dunk on you, put his nuts in your face? 0.98

02:15:42.000 Wait a minute, what?

02:15:43.000 No, I was more athletic than he is.

02:15:45.000 No, you weren't.

02:15:46.000 He was wearing a barrette.

02:15:47.000 Things that tie your hair up are very specific.

02:15:49.000 If you're a dude and you have one of those...

02:15:50.000 Remember when Hicks and Grace had that samurai thing going with a hair tie?

02:15:53.000 That's fine.

02:15:54.000 That's fine.

02:15:55.000 As long as you have rubber bands.

02:15:57.000 But what you can't have, you can't have a barrette.

02:15:59.000 Can't have a barrette.

02:16:00.000 Nope.

02:16:01.000 Chuck can.

02:16:01.000 We'll not allow it.

02:16:02.000 Chuck Liddell can if he wanted to.

02:16:04.000 You know what?

02:16:05.000 If you're Leonardo DiCaprio, you can do whatever you want.

02:16:07.000 Probably.

02:16:08.000 No, you can't. 0.99

02:16:10.000 He's got enough money that he really doesn't give a fuck. 1.00

02:16:13.000 That's why he drives a Prius, dog. 1.00

02:16:15.000 The girls that wouldn't fuck him because he was wearing a barrette, you don't want those girls. 1.00

02:16:19.000 That's right. 1.00

02:16:21.000 He's wearing a barrette to keep...

02:16:24.000 Chicks away. 1.00

02:16:25.000 Antonio Carlos got the back here.

02:16:26.000 This is, by the way, the least fight-heavy fight companion podcast of all time.

02:16:32.000 I want to apologize for these guys.

02:16:36.000 I want to apologize for Brian for not shutting up about...

02:16:39.000 Sorry, I'm a jiu-jitsu freak, bro. 0.88

02:16:41.000 He's a freak, bro.

02:16:42.000 He's going to train eventually.

02:16:44.000 One of these days, if he could just get a place to move closer to his house.

02:16:48.000 Bro, he has an open invitation to train with Eddie Bravo, Henner and Hiron Gracie, has never been to either gym.

02:16:55.000 Guys, it's a long drive.

02:16:56.000 Too far away.

02:16:57.000 What's the best, as far as the biggest, coolest jiu-jitsu gym?

02:17:01.000 Is it Gracie in Torrance?

02:17:04.000 It's amazing, right?

02:17:05.000 So many students for me to train with, too.

02:17:07.000 Is that the biggest place you've ever been to?

02:17:09.000 Because I've seen it online. 0.98

02:17:10.000 They have, like, extra rooms and shit. 0.95

02:17:11.000 Yeah, a bunch of private rooms. 1.00

02:17:12.000 Crazy. 0.64

02:17:13.000 Big old mat. 0.94

02:17:13.000 The mat space, it's like a custom-made jammy, right? 0.94

02:17:16.000 Where they have, like, a tarp over, like, some mats that are underneath it.

02:17:19.000 It's green.

02:17:20.000 Does that mat get slippery?

02:17:22.000 It does.

02:17:23.000 When you get sweaty, it's very slippery.

02:17:24.000 Because it's not as good as a tatami, those flat ones that are solid and dense.

02:17:28.000 Those are the best, right?

02:17:30.000 Yeah, they have their reasons for it, though.

02:17:31.000 I brought up the henna one time.

02:17:33.000 He told me, I forget the reason.

02:17:34.000 If you can pass when it's slippery, you need more balance.

02:17:38.000 Yeah, especially when you're sweaty, it's super slippery.

02:17:40.000 Yeah, you've got to get used to that.

02:17:42.000 So is it better?

02:17:42.000 It's better to be on a slippery surface for your technique?

02:17:45.000 I'm just guessing, I don't know.

02:17:47.000 Does that make sense to you?

02:17:49.000 Right?

02:17:49.000 If you can pass on ice, that's a bad passing.

02:17:52.000 Can you imagine if you could pass on ice?

02:17:55.000 No, that totally makes sense. 0.99

02:17:56.000 The one thing, though, that sucks a fat bag of dicks for is if you're doing any kind of striking training. 0.99

02:18:02.000 Or wrestling. 1.00

02:18:02.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:18:03.000 Either one of those.

02:18:04.000 You're going to get ripped up ACLs.

02:18:05.000 You're going to hurt your knee.

02:18:06.000 Yeah, you can't get your foot in a good position.

02:18:11.000 If you don't have traction, you can't choose where your feet go when you're scrambling.

02:18:14.000 But people tear out their needs because of traction.

02:18:17.000 Especially back in the day in football with artificial turf.

02:18:21.000 The AstroTurf?

02:18:22.000 What are we doing?

02:18:23.000 Whose idea was that?

02:18:25.000 That was cement that was painted green.

02:18:27.000 Then I gotta play on it and get tackled on it?

02:18:29.000 Did you play on it?

02:18:30.000 Oh yeah, my high school football field was AstroTurf.

02:18:33.000 Way to go.

02:18:34.000 But it gives you an unrealistic environment, too.

02:18:36.000 Well, they can't grow grass in Denver.

02:18:38.000 Oh, yes, they can.

02:18:39.000 Oh, yeah.

02:18:39.000 They can?

02:18:39.000 Oh, with new technology.

02:18:40.000 Nice grass.

02:18:41.000 They got special seeds.

02:18:42.000 We had good seasons there. 0.99

02:18:44.000 It's freaking green as shit. 0.99

02:18:45.000 Everything's green. 0.99

02:18:46.000 They just have to heat the ground over.

02:18:47.000 It's too hard. 0.97

02:18:48.000 When they throw up AstroTurf, it's just not fucking worth it. 0.87

02:18:51.000 It only grows two months a year. 0.95

02:18:53.000 It's just cheaper, too.

02:18:54.000 You got to think high schools are like, oh, we don't have to pay anyone to take care of this.

02:18:57.000 How often do they do that now, Zach?

02:18:58.000 Is it still astroturfing?

02:18:59.000 What's the latest now?

02:19:00.000 It's a combo.

02:19:01.000 Well, now it's like a fake grass.

02:19:04.000 It has these little rubber pellets in it.

02:19:04.000 It has the feel of grass.

02:19:06.000 A lot of football fields are that now. 0.99

02:19:09.000 That's the latest shit? 0.99

02:19:10.000 It's fake rubber grass? 1.00

02:19:12.000 Fake rubber grass?

02:19:12.000 Yeah, it's rubber grass.

02:19:13.000 With these rubber pellets in it.

02:19:15.000 I'm going to Google it.

02:19:15.000 I've never heard of it before.

02:19:16.000 Does it rip apart when you run on it with cleats?

02:19:19.000 No.

02:19:20.000 When you take off your cleats, you have these little black balls of rubber in it.

02:19:24.000 But it's soft like grass.

02:19:26.000 Eco-friendly turf?

02:19:28.000 Is that what it is?

02:19:28.000 Sure.

02:19:29.000 Why not?

02:19:31.000 Back to Jiu-Jitsu. 1.00

02:19:32.000 Wow, look at this shit. 1.00

02:19:34.000 It looks fucking real as shit, man. 1.00

02:19:36.000 There you go. 1.00

02:19:37.000 That's crazy, dude.

02:19:39.000 I have it in my garage. 0.99

02:19:39.000 That looks real as shit. 0.99

02:19:41.000 That's weird. 0.99

02:19:43.000 It's amazing.

02:19:44.000 It's pretty cool.

02:19:45.000 That's crazy, man.

02:19:45.000 But how does it feel, though?

02:19:47.000 It feels great.

02:19:47.000 It could be plasticky.

02:19:49.000 No, it's not.

02:19:50.000 It feels real, man.

02:19:51.000 It's made of lambskin.

02:19:52.000 Feels good.

02:19:53.000 Another lambskin.

02:19:53.000 It feels natural.

02:19:54.000 It's made of the same thing as a lambskin condom.

02:19:57.000 It's called field turf.

02:19:58.000 Field turf.

02:19:58.000 There you go.

02:20:00.000 Yeah, here it is.

02:20:00.000 That would be the ultimate.

02:20:01.000 If it was made from lambskin, then grass would tear off like natural grass.

02:20:06.000 Word.

02:20:08.000 Hmm.

02:20:08.000 Interesting.

02:20:11.000 Yeah, this is what it's called.

02:20:12.000 Field turf.

02:20:13.000 That's pretty cool.

02:20:14.000 That's badass, man.

02:20:15.000 Field turf, huh?

02:20:17.000 This Antonio Carlos Jr. definitely won.

02:20:19.000 That kid gets a bright future.

02:20:21.000 He's a badass. 1.00

02:20:22.000 In the NFL, how many stadiums off the top of your head do you think have this shit? 1.00

02:20:28.000 I would say... 1.00

02:20:30.000 Isn't there a hybrid?

02:20:31.000 There's some that's kind of like that, but there's real grass growing, and they got some crazy hydroponic system, like super high-tech, where they're growing grass without the sunlight. 0.99

02:20:40.000 Look at that shit, man. 0.99

02:20:42.000 It's more predominant in colleges. 1.00

02:20:44.000 I'd say in the NFL, I mean, not even half.

02:20:47.000 Not even half of them are... 1.00

02:20:49.000 I want to know what the latest is in the NFL with that shit. 1.00

02:20:54.000 Field turf revolution. 1.00

02:20:55.000 I'm getting that stuff from my garden.

02:20:58.000 Why would you do that?

02:20:58.000 That's super lame.

02:20:59.000 When you could actually have grass, you fucking weirdo. 0.99

02:21:01.000 I want it to look green, and I don't want to deal with bugs. 1.00

02:21:01.000 I don't want it. 1.00

02:21:05.000 Yeah, because we live in California.

02:21:07.000 There's a lot of bugs here.

02:21:08.000 You guys all into nature.

02:21:08.000 Whatever.

02:21:09.000 On a regular day, you might find five or six bugs.

02:21:12.000 Whatever.

02:21:13.000 I'm not using water.

02:21:14.000 I've never seen a bug.

02:21:16.000 Weren't you in the jungle at one point in your life?

02:21:18.000 Yes, I was.

02:21:19.000 You had to...

02:21:20.000 Like in Asia, right? 0.93

02:21:21.000 Yeah, I was in Indonesia.

02:21:23.000 And how did you deal with bugs?

02:21:24.000 You heard them coming from miles away.

02:21:26.000 Well, it's as loud as Grand Central Station, the jungle.

02:21:31.000 There are bugs that are so crazy.

02:21:32.000 First of all, you have to worry about the soldier ants.

02:21:35.000 So when you slept, you had to sleep on...

02:21:39.000 No.

02:21:40.000 You had to worry about soldier ants that would come in and when they were hunting, they'd eat everything in their path.

02:21:44.000 And for whatever reason, when they climb on you, they bite you in unison, like it's a signal or something.

02:21:49.000 You go on a shock and then you get eaten.

02:21:51.000 So what you do is...

02:21:52.000 So people get eaten by ants in the jungle all the time?

02:21:54.000 So what you want to do is when you sleep, you want to make sure because they'll hunt at night.

02:21:54.000 Yes.

02:21:58.000 You have a raised platform, it's on posts, and you have to dip the posts, you have to paint the posts in turpentine, because turpentine will stop them.

02:22:07.000 If you don't do that, they will come up the posts, and they will come into your place, and they will kill you.

02:22:12.000 Now, sometimes you can wake up covered in ants, soldier ants, you won't die because they're foraging, they're not hunting.

02:22:20.000 So you sit there, you don't move, don't move, and they'll go over you and not eat you.

02:22:25.000 What if you kill one? 0.97

02:22:26.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:22:26.000 You fucked up, son. 1.00

02:22:27.000 But you don't move. 1.00

02:22:28.000 They tell you that you don't move.

02:22:29.000 Don't move.

02:22:30.000 They will go over you and pass over you.

02:22:32.000 So millions of ants will pass over you.

02:22:35.000 But that's why in the rainforest, you use a hammock, you put it between two trees, sleep, and the ropes that hold the hammock are also dipped in turpentine.

02:22:46.000 Oh, and when you're in the rainforest, I had to carry...

02:22:48.000 You think off works for these mosquitoes?

02:22:51.000 Off? 1.00

02:22:52.000 Get the fuck out of here. 1.00

02:22:53.000 They laugh at that shit. 1.00

02:22:55.000 You carry a sulfur coil, a sulfur coil that you burn, and it's burning sulfur in front of you. 1.00

02:23:03.000 That's how you have to hang out in the rainforest, because otherwise bugs will...

02:23:07.000 Why do people like going in there?

02:23:08.000 They eat elephants.

02:23:09.000 Why do people like going in there?

02:23:11.000 They go into an elephant's ear and they start eating elephants.

02:23:11.000 Well, because I was studying orangutans and I thought I wanted to be a naturalist.

02:23:16.000 So I'm 20 and I go, I want to be a naturalist.

02:23:18.000 I want to live in the jungle and I was studying orangutans.

02:23:21.000 So you track orangutans all day.

02:23:24.000 Do you know what that means?

02:23:25.000 Collect their feces and sift through it and figure out what they're eating.

02:23:27.000 Sounds like a party.

02:23:29.000 Jane Goodall, you think she went through a lot of...

02:23:31.000 Because they never talked about the bug problems.

02:23:33.000 Jane Goodall was a different thing because she dealt with chimps. 1.00

02:23:36.000 Now, when you deal with chimps versus orangutans, orangutans are fine. 1.00

02:23:38.000 They're not going to kill you.

02:23:40.000 Chimps live in groups.

02:23:42.000 Orangutans are solitary.

02:23:43.000 What about the bugs, though?

02:23:44.000 How come she didn't deal with the bugs? 0.51

02:23:45.000 That first butt's in the Congo. 0.51

02:23:47.000 So yeah, you're dealing with major bugs.

02:23:49.000 So they just never talked about them.

02:23:50.000 In her movies, they never talk about how she got attacked by bugs.

02:23:55.000 I love that transition.

02:23:57.000 Sorry.

02:23:57.000 I don't know if you guys saw that.

02:23:58.000 Anyways, not bad.

02:23:59.000 Bugs are the biggest thing in the rainforest.

02:24:02.000 This Antonio kid's going to be a monster. 0.99

02:24:03.000 Yeah, he's a beast, man. 0.98

02:24:05.000 I had an experience.

02:24:05.000 Bugs are the worst.

02:24:06.000 He weighed in light.

02:24:07.000 Whatever he decides to do, he's going to be a hamper.

02:24:09.000 No, I had an experience.

02:24:10.000 It was like the worst vacation of my life.

02:24:12.000 Yeah.

02:24:13.000 I had friends go, dude, let's go to Costa Rica.

02:24:15.000 We're going to party.

02:24:15.000 I thought Costa Rica was like Cancun.

02:24:17.000 They go, yeah, we're going to party at Ed Clay.

02:24:19.000 He goes, dude, it's just me and like 10 people, chicks.

02:24:23.000 We got this mansion in Costa Rica that we're going to party. 1.00

02:24:23.000 We're going to fuck. 1.00

02:24:27.000 And I'm like thinking mansion, Cancun, party, beach. 1.00

02:24:30.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:24:31.000 So I said, fuck it, let's go. 1.00

02:24:33.000 We land in Costa Rica. 1.00

02:24:35.000 I thought we were in the city where we're going to party in San Pedro or San Jose or something.

02:24:39.000 They go, oh no, we're just staying here for tonight.

02:24:41.000 The mansions, we got to take another plane to get to the mansion. 0.98

02:24:44.000 I'm like, oh shit, we get into this prop plane. 0.99

02:24:46.000 There's like six of us in there going, holy shit. 0.99

02:24:50.000 We like go into Jurassic Park, land on the outskirts of Costa Rica in this jungle town. 0.99

02:24:56.000 Wow.

02:24:56.000 And I'm thinking, I... I hate the jungle.

02:24:59.000 I'm not trying to go to the jungle.

02:25:01.000 I don't like bugs at all. 1.00

02:25:02.000 I can't deal with that shit. 1.00

02:25:03.000 That's a phobia of mine. 1.00

02:25:05.000 I don't want to go scuba diving.

02:25:06.000 Jaws fucked that up for me.

02:25:07.000 I don't want to go into a jungle. 1.00

02:25:08.000 I don't want to fuck with bugs. 0.99

02:25:10.000 I'll go snowboarding all day, but I ain't going into no damn jungle. 0.99

02:25:13.000 I'll see a DVD of it. 0.89

02:25:14.000 That's it.

02:25:15.000 So I got tricked. 0.99

02:25:18.000 They didn't do it on purpose, but really, I fucked up. 0.98

02:25:20.000 I thought it was like Cancun. 0.98

02:25:21.000 I didn't know we were going into a jungle.

02:25:23.000 We get to the mansion. 0.98

02:25:24.000 I'm fucking freaking out inside. 0.97

02:25:25.000 I don't want to spoil. 1.00

02:25:27.000 I don't want to seem like a big pussy. 1.00

02:25:29.000 I'm like, fuck, I got to hold it inside. 1.00

02:25:31.000 It's daytime. 1.00

02:25:31.000 I go, shit, what happens at night? 1.00

02:25:33.000 We're in a jungle. 1.00

02:25:34.000 There's a mansion in a jungle. 1.00

02:25:35.000 It's cool, but holy fuck. 1.00

02:25:36.000 We're going to get killed by these bugs. 1.00

02:25:38.000 I walk into my room. 0.99

02:25:40.000 The ceiling doesn't connect to the side walls because if bugs don't bother you, you just open the shit up. 0.97

02:25:46.000 You want that breeze coming through your house. 0.96

02:25:47.000 I walk into my room.

02:25:49.000 There's 50 bees in my room.

02:25:52.000 I go downstairs and there's a guy, the dude who owned the house, his uncle stays there all the time.

02:25:56.000 I go, there's bees in my room. 0.94

02:26:00.000 I'm trying to keep my pussiness under control. 0.74

02:26:03.000 I don't let anybody see the fear, but I'm thinking about when the sun goes down, what's going to happen? 0.55

02:26:07.000 We're in the jungle.

02:26:07.000 What's going to happen?

02:26:08.000 Oh shit, it's summertime. 0.99

02:26:10.000 He goes, turn on the ceiling fan, but don't turn it on on blast. 1.00

02:26:13.000 Just put it on low.

02:26:14.000 It'll make them uncomfortable and they'll fly away. 0.99

02:26:17.000 I'm like, damn. 0.99

02:26:19.000 You don't want to make him uncomfortable, right? 1.00

02:26:21.000 I go, I gotta sleep in that motherfucker. 1.00

02:26:22.000 So I turned on the fan on low, left it there. 1.00

02:26:25.000 We all take off to...

02:26:27.000 To go, everyone needed, you had to have your own ATC. Four-wheeler?

02:26:31.000 ATV. ATV. You had to have your own one.

02:26:33.000 So we were going to, as soon as you get there, leave your bags.

02:26:35.000 We got to get our transport.

02:26:36.000 Everyone's got to have their own. 0.99

02:26:37.000 We're in the jungle because if you don't have your own fucking ATV, you're going to be left behind. 0.98

02:26:42.000 So we get in the van to go to this, to get our ATVs. 0.99

02:26:45.000 And I said, are you guys worried about the bees in your room?

02:26:49.000 Oh my God, there was like a Playboy Playmate chick. 1.00

02:26:51.000 She was there too.

02:26:52.000 She's like, yeah, did you see all the bees?

02:26:53.000 What are we going to do about them?

02:26:54.000 I'm mad at that.

02:26:55.000 Yeah, and anyways, when the sun, we went into town, got our ATVs, I went to the local store and bought all their off. 0.95

02:27:01.000 Damn right.

02:27:02.000 I bought all their off, and as we went back to the mansion, there's a pool, it looks like Jay-Z's mansion pool, infinity pool, and then you see the coast of Costa Rica. 0.92

02:27:10.000 The sun was going down.

02:27:11.000 It was like from dusk till dawn.

02:27:13.000 I went in the bathroom and just drenched my whole body.

02:27:16.000 I used off like moose.

02:27:18.000 I drenched my whole body and we sat by the pool, and I'm like, I'm not going to be attacked.

02:27:22.000 And you know what?

02:27:23.000 The bugs came out.

02:27:24.000 First, the frogs come out.

02:27:25.000 And I'm like, oh my god, what are all these frogs?

02:27:27.000 I thought we were being attacked by frogs.

02:27:29.000 And the old man goes, the frogs are going to be your best friend.

02:27:32.000 Watch when the bugs come out.

02:27:33.000 The frogs, you just see just like Braveheart of frogs and bugs.

02:27:39.000 You never see the same bug twice.

02:27:41.000 No, you don't.

02:27:42.000 You never see the same bug twice.

02:27:43.000 We had to go six miles, six hours upstream to where the nature preserve was.

02:27:50.000 We get in this rickety boat, rickety, like a raft, and there are saltwater crocodiles everywhere in that bay.

02:27:56.000 Oh, God.

02:27:58.000 And there are accidents all the time where people crash in other boats because they're drunk or whatever, and people get eaten.

02:28:05.000 And two weeks before this, they had to shoot this crocodile, this huge saltwater crocodile that killed a kid.

02:28:11.000 They shot it with an M16 like 15 times, and then it didn't die, so they put electrical cables into the water and electrocuted it to death, right?

02:28:20.000 There's no more.

02:28:21.000 So then there's that.

02:28:22.000 We get there.

02:28:23.000 My sister, the first day, puts her foot in her sandal and goes, in her clog, and goes, my foot's on fire, my foot's on fire.

02:28:31.000 Pulls her foot out.

02:28:32.000 It's a fire ant.

02:28:33.000 It's one of those ants. 1.00

02:28:34.000 Damn, that's crazy, son. 0.99

02:28:35.000 You got any other vacation stories you want to share? 1.00

02:28:37.000 Oh, forget it, man.

02:28:38.000 That's quite all.

02:28:40.000 Eddie was talking for too long.

02:28:42.000 He gonna jump in?

02:28:43.000 No, he finished his story and I was just...

02:28:45.000 Dude, I was halfway through.

02:28:47.000 I was piggybacking. 0.89

02:28:48.000 I'm nowhere near dumb, but I'm gonna end it at that.

02:28:50.000 Joe, you think Fabio can win this fight at all? 0.90

02:28:52.000 Well, it's a crazy fight when you think that.

02:28:56.000 He's number seven heavyweight in the world.

02:28:57.000 Fabio Maldonado, not even ranked as a heavyweight.

02:28:59.000 Light heavyweight either.

02:29:01.000 Not ranked light heavyweight either.

02:29:02.000 Yeah, he's a light heavyweight, not ranked as a light heavyweight.

02:29:05.000 Probably should fight at 185. No one is a guy who carries body fat fighting as a light heavyweight, but no one is also being an incredibly durable guy.

02:29:14.000 And undefeated as a pro boxer.

02:29:16.000 Yeah.

02:29:17.000 Stipe was a training partner of mine.

02:29:20.000 Homeboy can wrestle, man.

02:29:21.000 I think we'll see some of his wrestling tonight.

02:29:23.000 I wonder.

02:29:24.000 He's a smart fighter.

02:29:25.000 I wonder what he's going to try to do. 0.99

02:29:28.000 Fabio Maldonado, he's a fucking blood and guts fighter, man. 0.99

02:29:32.000 He is the epitome of a blood and guts fighter. 1.00

02:29:35.000 That guy can take a fucking beating. 1.00

02:29:37.000 That hair. 1.00

02:29:38.000 Very few guys can take a beating like Maldonado can.

02:29:40.000 And he's got vicious body shots. 1.00

02:29:43.000 His left hook to the body is fucking nasty. 0.99

02:29:45.000 But he's going to be so outsized. 0.99

02:29:48.000 I mean, he's nowhere near the same size.

02:29:51.000 Like, when the two of them get inside the octagon, I think you're going to see a big size disparity for Stipe Miocic.

02:29:55.000 How much heavier is Stipe?

02:29:58.000 Well, Maldonado weighs 205 when he fights.

02:30:00.000 He weighed in at 212 tonight, I think.

02:30:02.000 And then Stipe was around 230. God, look at that.

02:30:06.000 It's not that bad when you consider the fact that Kane regularly fights guys that are much heavier than that.

02:30:10.000 But you've got to think.

02:30:12.000 He looks small right there.

02:30:13.000 Maldonado's a small, light heavyweight.

02:30:16.000 He's not exactly a shredded 212. Great boxing though, man.

02:30:21.000 Phenomenal boxing.

02:30:22.000 His boxing's really sweet.

02:30:25.000 It becomes really interesting.

02:30:27.000 Are they fighting in heavyweight?

02:30:28.000 Uh-huh.

02:30:29.000 Short notice because Junior Dos Santos and Stipe were supposed to be the headliner.

02:30:33.000 Junior got hurt and had to pull out.

02:30:35.000 Yeah, he broke his hand.

02:30:37.000 Yeah, look, what's interesting about it is because so much is on the line for Stipe.

02:30:42.000 It's a lose-lose for Stipe.

02:30:45.000 If you don't destroy this guy, people are like, dang, man, what the hell happened?

02:30:49.000 Even if he puts up some sort of fight.

02:30:51.000 Yeah, he's essentially saving the card.

02:30:53.000 It's really interesting to know heavyweights were prominent enough to take that position.

02:30:58.000 You know, thinking about how it was a short fight.

02:31:00.000 I didn't get a call.

02:31:01.000 I would have took the fight.

02:31:02.000 Would you have taken that fight?

02:31:03.000 I would have took the fight.

02:31:04.000 I was in shape.

02:31:05.000 I could have fought Andrey Arlovsky three weeks ago.

02:31:07.000 Wow.

02:31:08.000 My wrestling heart rate on Friday was 37. Whoa.

02:31:12.000 Holy shit. 1.00

02:31:13.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

02:31:14.000 That's crazy. 0.98

02:31:15.000 Mine's 65. Damn it, I gotta start training. 0.99

02:31:18.000 I'm gonna do some pool sprints. 0.98

02:31:19.000 Yours is 112. Fucking pool sprints, bro. 1.00

02:31:23.000 Back to Brian again. 1.00

02:31:23.000 Back to Brian. 1.00

02:31:24.000 Yeah.

02:31:24.000 I'm just saying, dude.

02:31:25.000 I gotta start taking my training more seriously.

02:31:27.000 It's crazy how you keep bringing it back to yourself.

02:31:29.000 Yeah, but I'm going to videotape it, so of course I'm going to bring it back to myself.

02:31:31.000 I'm in the conversation.

02:31:33.000 Joe, quit picking on me, man.

02:31:35.000 I'm getting sensitive.

02:31:35.000 Bro, you're getting bullied.

02:31:37.000 I'm getting bullied.

02:31:37.000 Get online, quickly.

02:31:38.000 Seriously.

02:31:39.000 Hey, guys, online.

02:31:40.000 Attack Joe.

02:31:42.000 Stand up for me, everybody.

02:31:49.000 John Anik was telling me he was surprised they didn't call me to step in for this fight.

02:31:53.000 Yeah, it's interesting.

02:31:54.000 You were originally scheduled to fight Hunt.

02:31:57.000 What happened in that fight?

02:31:59.000 Hunt kept saying he was hurt, and then we're supposed to fight in June.

02:32:02.000 They say we wouldn't be ready to fight in June in New Zealand.

02:32:05.000 So then I was like, dude, I have to fight.

02:32:07.000 I can't wait.

02:32:07.000 Go like that if you're going to eat.

02:32:09.000 It helps.

02:32:09.000 It sounds so cool how loud it is.

02:32:11.000 Chewing.

02:32:12.000 It sounds cool to you because you're high.

02:32:13.000 Nature box.

02:32:14.000 It sounds so cool that I have when I chew.

02:32:17.000 Snacks like this before.

02:32:18.000 But with Mark Hunt, it kept getting prolonged, prolonged, and then I was like, dude, I have to have a fight.

02:32:22.000 I don't want to sit out of here.

02:32:24.000 And then they called me the Andre Arlowski, so I didn't want to wait.

02:32:26.000 And now he's fighting Roy, which people are like, oh, Shabba, are you mad?

02:32:29.000 Hell no, that's an epic fight.

02:32:31.000 I can't wait to see that fight.

02:32:32.000 That's a great fight.

02:32:33.000 Believe me, Mark Hunt's time will come. 1.00

02:32:35.000 Oh shit, that was a fucking... 1.00

02:32:36.000 He just threw down a declaration. 1.00

02:32:38.000 Mark Hunt's time will come.

02:32:40.000 Dodged a bullet, son.

02:32:41.000 Uncle Dana saved ya.

02:32:43.000 Whoa.

02:32:44.000 See that, everybody?

02:32:46.000 Pause.

02:32:46.000 Just pause.

02:32:47.000 Let that sit.

02:32:48.000 Yeah, I think Fabio Maldonado got the call because he's Brazilian as well.

02:32:51.000 That's the big thing.

02:32:52.000 No, I heard he text Joe Simmons like, yo, I want this fight, son.

02:32:55.000 Wow.

02:32:56.000 We probably wanted to fight in Brazil. 0.99

02:32:57.000 Fabio Maldonado is an example of never looking at a guy with a shirt off and think he's a pussy just by the way he looks. 0.99

02:33:03.000 Fedor kind of, everyone knows that. 0.99

02:33:06.000 Well, thanks.

02:33:07.000 Thanks for taking my thunder.

02:33:08.000 Any other brain busters?

02:33:09.000 Thanks for taking my thunder, guys. 0.99

02:33:10.000 I guess it's shit on Brian. 0.99

02:33:12.000 It's shit on Brian Saturday, everybody. 0.99

02:33:15.000 I want to apologize. 0.99

02:33:16.000 Apparently it's shit on Brian Saturday. 0.98

02:33:17.000 I can't think... 0.99

02:33:18.000 A little Billy Madison quote for you. 0.99

02:33:20.000 How about fucking Mark Hunt? 0.99

02:33:21.000 But seriously. 0.99

02:33:22.000 We were talking about Mark Hunt.

02:33:23.000 Who looks like deceiving more than Mark Hunt?

02:33:26.000 I know.

02:33:27.000 Roy Nelson.

02:33:27.000 They're fighting each other.

02:33:29.000 Roy Nelson, you're like, professional athlete?

02:33:31.000 I know.

02:33:32.000 I grew up with island people. 1.00

02:33:35.000 I would look at Mark Hunt and not fuck with them. 1.00

02:33:37.000 I don't care. 1.00

02:33:37.000 Where'd you grow up? 1.00

02:33:38.000 I wouldn't fuck with Mark Hunt. 1.00

02:33:40.000 I grew up in Tahiti. 1.00

02:33:42.000 That's what I thought.

02:33:43.000 You couldn't look.

02:33:44.000 You remind me of Tahiti.

02:33:46.000 It's funny.

02:33:47.000 Brian's been to Tahiti.

02:33:47.000 Tell the story, Brian.

02:33:48.000 Good question.

02:33:49.000 Hey, why don't you tell us when you went on vacation and all the insects you saw. 0.99

02:33:54.000 Please, please, waste my fucking life for that story again. 0.99

02:33:57.000 No, this is Tahiti. 1.00

02:33:58.000 I had my shirt off.

02:33:59.000 Did you know how funny that was?

02:34:00.000 He said, good question.

02:34:01.000 Good question.

02:34:02.000 Thank you for asking.

02:34:03.000 Actually, when I was in Tahiti, have you ever seen the snakes in Tahiti?

02:34:06.000 Oh, they're great snakes.

02:34:08.000 Well, hey, I was playing with a snake in Indonesia.

02:34:10.000 That is six minutes of my life.

02:34:12.000 I will never get back.

02:34:12.000 Oh, oh, oh.

02:34:13.000 No more animals.

02:34:14.000 That's a great story.

02:34:15.000 I'm playing with a snake.

02:34:16.000 By the way.

02:34:16.000 Playing with a snake with a stick.

02:34:18.000 Brute Galakas comes up and goes, young man, if that snake bites you, you will be dead in a half hour.

02:34:22.000 And we are six hours from any hospital.

02:34:25.000 And I went, okay, I'll stop playing with that snake.

02:34:27.000 Please stop.

02:34:27.000 Good story.

02:34:27.000 Please stop the animal stories.

02:34:28.000 Good story.

02:34:29.000 Good story about snakes, guys.

02:34:33.000 That was funny.

02:34:34.000 Not bad, right?

02:34:34.000 Yeah.

02:34:35.000 See, Eddie's got my back!

02:34:36.000 Yeah, you're turning it around.

02:34:39.000 When your back's against the wall, you learn how to turn it around.

02:34:42.000 Yeah, you just flipped it.

02:34:42.000 Look at Stipe chewing gum.

02:34:43.000 He looks pretty calm.

02:34:46.000 There he is, ladies and gentlemen.

02:34:47.000 Stipe. 1.00

02:34:48.000 He looks high as fuck. 0.99

02:34:49.000 You can work that into your stage, your act. 1.00

02:34:52.000 He does look super high.

02:34:54.000 He knows a lot about MMA. Has anybody ever walked to the octagon looking higher?

02:34:59.000 God, he looks relaxed. 1.00

02:35:00.000 He looks high as fuck. 0.99

02:35:01.000 He does look super, super high. 0.99

02:35:03.000 Also has a full-time job as a firefighter, everybody.

02:35:06.000 Is that right?

02:35:06.000 Yeah, I just said that.

02:35:08.000 Why are you throwing him under the bus?

02:35:09.000 By the way, it doesn't look like he's even remotely warmed up.

02:35:11.000 He looks like he's just like, well, here we go. 0.98

02:35:13.000 By the way, if you have a job as a firefighter, it's one of the best jobs to do other shit. 0.97

02:35:17.000 Because you have four days on, four days off, right? 0.97

02:35:19.000 Two days on, four days off?

02:35:20.000 Yeah, they have 24-hour shifts, and a firehouse, if it's a good firehouse, is a great place to work.

02:35:27.000 Obviously, it's very dangerous.

02:35:28.000 Obviously, there's a lot of responsibility.

02:35:30.000 My friend Ray back in New York was a firefighter.

02:35:33.000 We used to call him Ray the Fireman. 0.99

02:35:35.000 And he fucking loved it because he could do all kinds of shit while I was at work. 0.99

02:35:38.000 He learned how to be a cook. 0.99

02:35:39.000 Because they would have times where they didn't have to do anything.

02:35:41.000 They called him Ray the Fireman.

02:35:43.000 You called him Metro Creators.

02:35:44.000 It was in a pool hall.

02:35:47.000 White Plains, Charlie.

02:35:48.000 Where's he from?

02:35:48.000 White Plains.

02:35:49.000 You know?

02:35:50.000 I love that.

02:35:50.000 Malvern and Tommy.

02:35:51.000 Malvern and Tommy's from Malvern.

02:35:52.000 Martial Arts Studios have that too.

02:35:54.000 That's my friend, Brendan the Fighter.

02:35:55.000 Yeah, that was Deli Steve.

02:35:56.000 Yep.

02:35:57.000 Because he worked at the deli.

02:35:58.000 Now, they can't leave the firehouse?

02:36:00.000 No.

02:36:01.000 When they're on, they cannot leave.

02:36:02.000 They can't even go to the store?

02:36:03.000 Maybe they can go to the store. 0.99

02:36:04.000 They do shifts and shit like that, I'm sure. 0.97

02:36:06.000 No, I think they have to stay at the station. 0.95

02:36:09.000 You might be right.

02:36:09.000 That's the deal.

02:36:10.000 You can't be driving around.

02:36:11.000 No, because you get a call, you gotta chill.

02:36:13.000 Yeah, but I bet there's some firehouses that have such a cool, like, chief that he lets dudes, but he has them on call. 0.98

02:36:18.000 He goes, dude, you gotta meet us at the fucking... 0.98

02:36:20.000 Well, I'm sure they cover their bases. 0.99

02:36:21.000 I'm sure they cover their bases.

02:36:23.000 You know, like when a guy's scheduled on, you know, there's probably another guy that's scheduled to go shopping for them.

02:36:27.000 You can do push-ups all day.

02:36:28.000 That's the thing.

02:36:29.000 You can do a lot of training.

02:36:30.000 And a lot of those gyms in firehouses are pretty stocked up.

02:36:33.000 They probably have mats and they do jiu-jitsu.

02:36:35.000 Got a heavy bag.

02:36:36.000 Does T-Bay play baseball?

02:36:37.000 Yeah, he did play baseball, yeah.

02:36:38.000 He was drafted and never played.

02:36:40.000 Played baseball at Cleveland State and wrestled.

02:36:43.000 Good athlete, man.

02:36:44.000 Great athlete.

02:36:45.000 Who?

02:36:45.000 Miocic.

02:36:47.000 Oh, he's American?

02:36:48.000 Yeah.

02:36:48.000 He just wears the Croatian stuff.

02:36:51.000 I think, yeah, Croatian descent.

02:36:52.000 He would wear the Cro Cop shorts every day when we trained. 1.00

02:36:56.000 That's weird.

02:36:57.000 He speaks perfect English?

02:36:58.000 Oh yeah, he doesn't speak any Croatian. 1.00

02:37:00.000 Damn, he's big. 1.00

02:37:01.000 6'4", 230. Damn. 1.00

02:37:03.000 These are heavyweights, Brian. 1.00

02:37:04.000 I thought he was from Finland or some shit. 0.99

02:37:05.000 Still, 6'4", 230. It's a little bit bigger than you, Brian. 0.99

02:37:07.000 It's weird.

02:37:07.000 I don't know about that.

02:37:08.000 I haven't...

02:37:09.000 I mean, yeah.

02:37:10.000 Just because I got training right now because of your heart rate issue.

02:37:12.000 After pool sprints, bro?

02:37:13.000 A year of that?

02:37:14.000 Pool sprints?

02:37:15.000 A year?

02:37:18.000 And I've been boxing.

02:37:21.000 I'm impressed with my hands. 0.99

02:37:24.000 As long as you don't hit me back, I can fucking move. 0.99

02:37:35.000 Mario Yamazaki! 1.00

02:37:36.000 Mario Yamazaki!

02:37:36.000 He's got to abandon that heart.

02:37:37.000 What about your jab?

02:37:39.000 How's your jab, Brian?

02:37:40.000 You're going to need to stop that heart.

02:37:41.000 My jab is lightning.

02:37:42.000 It's viper quick.

02:37:43.000 They call me the viper in the gym.

02:37:45.000 Brian?

02:37:46.000 Am I right?

02:37:46.000 Yeah, he has to.

02:37:48.000 He's got to stop with the heart thing.

02:37:50.000 Kills me.

02:37:50.000 I told Eddie to stop chewing in front of the thing.

02:37:52.000 I'm chewing in front of it.

02:37:54.000 Marijuana is the worst.

02:37:54.000 How's your guard passing, Brian?

02:37:56.000 My guard passing is...

02:37:57.000 They call me slick in the jiu-jitsu circles.

02:38:00.000 That's what I heard.

02:38:02.000 Honestly.

02:38:03.000 But I coat myself with oil.

02:38:04.000 If you were a referee, would you do a heart or would you come up with your own move?

02:38:07.000 Me?

02:38:08.000 What would it be?

02:38:08.000 I'd do a hockey dance.

02:38:09.000 Could you do just a ball, crater a ball and hold a shaft?

02:38:13.000 Like, no movement, you know, instead of this.

02:38:15.000 That's a tight thing.

02:38:16.000 You could say, that's a tight thing.

02:38:18.000 It's a tight thing.

02:38:18.000 Could you do this?

02:38:19.000 They wouldn't know what I was doing.

02:38:20.000 Could you do that?

02:38:21.000 You know that karate thing?

02:38:22.000 And Brendan Schaub is your referee.

02:38:23.000 I'm like, this.

02:38:25.000 Could you do that? 0.98

02:38:26.000 Could you do that if they fucking intro'd you as a fighter? 0.98

02:38:30.000 Like, if you lost a bet, like... 0.98

02:38:31.000 You remember when fucking Dennis Hallman lost that bet and he wore those little skivvies? 0.98

02:38:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:38:38.000 Well, he got fired. 0.99

02:38:39.000 Then he got fired the next day.

02:38:41.000 No, he didn't get fired, but he got in trouble.

02:38:42.000 He wore, like, the shortest old-school Valley Tudo.

02:38:45.000 Basically, he wore a sunga.

02:38:46.000 That was Marco Ruiz used to wear those, like a Speedo.

02:38:51.000 Karate, they do this thing. 0.87

02:38:52.000 Instead of doing that one like that with a fist over, if you just do it like this. 0.76

02:38:56.000 It's basically you're saying, cradle the balls and hold the shaft. 0.96

02:38:58.000 There you go. 0.99

02:39:09.000 I don't see a big difference.

02:39:10.000 I don't see that much of a difference.

02:39:12.000 I do.

02:39:13.000 Oh my god.

02:39:14.000 It's an optical illusion.

02:39:15.000 I wouldn't call it out like that.

02:39:18.000 Let me see when they're moving.

02:39:20.000 No!

02:39:22.000 He's so much bigger.

02:39:23.000 Come on.

02:39:23.000 Does Fabio look like the owner of CrossFit?

02:39:26.000 A little bit.

02:39:27.000 A little bit.

02:39:28.000 It's not a big deal, though.

02:39:29.000 Guy can throw down.

02:39:30.000 I'm going to go with Fabiano of Maldonado.

02:39:34.000 Oh, snaps! 1.00

02:39:36.000 Hit him right away in the face. 0.99

02:39:38.000 There's not that big of a difference. 0.99

02:39:40.000 Oh! 0.60

02:39:43.000 No, no, no.

02:39:44.000 Survive, survive.

02:39:45.000 He's in big trouble.

02:39:46.000 Stipe backed off him.

02:39:47.000 Look at that.

02:39:47.000 It's good control.

02:39:48.000 He's going to come back on this.

02:39:50.000 Because he's super confident he's going to put this guy to sleep.

02:39:52.000 No, he's not.

02:39:52.000 He's not worried about it at all.

02:39:54.000 He's so much bigger, dude.

02:39:55.000 Exactly.

02:39:55.000 He's just being smart.

02:39:56.000 He's not rushing in at all.

02:39:57.000 That's a veteran move.

02:39:59.000 That's experience.

02:39:59.000 Not rushing in there.

02:40:02.000 Oh! 0.60

02:40:02.000 That's not fair. 0.60

02:40:03.000 He's way too big.

02:40:04.000 Come on! 0.61

02:40:04.000 Way too big. 0.61

02:40:05.000 What?

02:40:06.000 That's it.

02:40:06.000 He's way too big.

02:40:07.000 Oh, boy.

02:40:07.000 Jesus.

02:40:08.000 He's too big.

02:40:09.000 Miocik hit way too hard. 0.80

02:40:10.000 Nobody ever did that to Maldonado before.

02:40:11.000 I can't believe they sanctioned that fight.

02:40:13.000 It's a bad fight.

02:40:13.000 Let's be honest, man.

02:40:14.000 Let's be honest.

02:40:14.000 Let's absolutely be honest.

02:40:15.000 The only reason I sanctioned that fight is because it's in Brazil.

02:40:18.000 They wanted to save the card.

02:40:19.000 Maldonado asked for it, and it'll save the card.

02:40:20.000 You're absolutely right.

02:40:21.000 And Maldonado is such a beast.

02:40:23.000 People are like, you know what?

02:40:23.000 Give him a chance.

02:40:25.000 But look at this, man.

02:40:29.000 Boom! 0.99

02:40:29.000 That right hand. 0.99

02:40:31.000 That's why if really he's an 85er fighting an elite heavyweight, that's exactly how it should go down.

02:40:37.000 Would that have knocked you out, Brian?

02:40:39.000 Honestly, I would have rode that shot.

02:40:41.000 He could have been an 85er. 0.98

02:40:42.000 He could have been an 85er. 0.98

02:40:44.000 And he wasn't even really elite at light heavyweight.

02:40:46.000 He was just tough.

02:40:47.000 No, he's just a guy.

02:40:49.000 Dangerous matchup, in fact.

02:40:50.000 Super dangerous.

02:40:51.000 Makes me sad.

02:40:52.000 Nobody ever did this to him before, but you're dealing with a totally different kind of thump.

02:40:57.000 And that's what Brendan was talking about when he was talking about the difference between flyweights and heavyweights.

02:41:01.000 This.

02:41:02.000 Boom. 0.99

02:41:02.000 Damn. 0.99

02:41:03.000 Didn't look like he punched him hard either. 1.00

02:41:04.000 You're a retarded. 1.00

02:41:05.000 It looks like he punched him really fucking hard. 1.00

02:41:07.000 Punched the shit out of him. 1.00

02:41:08.000 How dare you say that? 0.99

02:41:09.000 You guys never agree with Brian.

02:41:11.000 It wasn't like a haymaker.

02:41:13.000 Agree with him every now and then.

02:41:14.000 A straight right on the jaw from a heavyweight?

02:41:16.000 I'm saying from your vantage point, it doesn't look like he wound up.

02:41:20.000 He just, like a short jab.

02:41:22.000 It was a perfect punch.

02:41:23.000 No, it wasn't a jab.

02:41:24.000 It was a perfect punch.

02:41:25.000 I mean, a short right.

02:41:26.000 How come you're not giving him credit?

02:41:27.000 He deserves, Brian.

02:41:29.000 Listen, guys, I think Stipe is a paper challenge.

02:41:33.000 Root for Brian.

02:41:34.000 Hey, Brian, how come you're not giving him credit?

02:41:36.000 Back and forth.

02:41:37.000 I thought about it.

02:41:39.000 I thought maybe you were just being mean automatically, but did you really say that?

02:41:46.000 I'm just saying it was a deceptive short right.

02:41:49.000 Of course it's going to knock him out, but it doesn't look like he hit him as hard.

02:41:52.000 He didn't throw a haymaker from his hip, Brian.

02:41:54.000 Sorry, bro.

02:41:54.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:41:55.000 Brian, it was a perfect right hand.

02:41:57.000 Well, you haven't seen my right hand, bro.

02:41:58.000 I've seen it.

02:42:00.000 Not in slow motion.

02:42:02.000 I've seen your wheel kick, too.

02:42:04.000 Well, Stipe did it.

02:42:06.000 Stipe did his job.

02:42:07.000 What would Joey say to Brian if he was here right now? 0.99

02:42:10.000 Listen, cocksucker, enough is enough. 1.00

02:42:11.000 You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. 1.00

02:42:13.000 If that right hand hit you, you'd be back in Afghanistan looking for frogs. 1.00

02:42:19.000 You'll be out in the jungle cocksucking with your fucking turpentine. 1.00

02:42:23.000 Go wax your poles, fuckface. 1.00

02:42:26.000 Now that's a good Joey Diaz impersonation. 1.00

02:42:29.000 Get back in the fucking jungle and wait for orders. 1.00

02:42:32.000 Guys, I'm disgusted and appalled. 1.00

02:42:34.000 If that fucking right hand hit you, you wouldn't even know a million ants were walking over you. 1.00

02:42:38.000 You'd be sleeping like a baby. 1.00

02:42:43.000 While ants are attacking you. 0.99

02:42:44.000 You'd wake up and it'd be fucking three days later. 0.99

02:42:47.000 A skeleton. 0.99

02:42:49.000 No ants, no nothing.

02:42:50.000 Even the ants would feel sorry for you. 1.00

02:42:52.000 This motherfucker is so alcohol, we can't even eat them, it'd be a travesty. 1.00

02:42:59.000 Yeah, that's like jungle law. 1.00

02:43:00.000 It's like some universal jungle harmony. 0.99

02:43:02.000 You're just too dead.

02:43:03.000 It's out of respect.

02:43:05.000 Out of respect.

02:43:06.000 The ants would go around you and eat an elephant.

02:43:08.000 Look at this right hand.

02:43:09.000 Boom.

02:43:09.000 Yeah, Jesus, Brian.

02:43:10.000 Right on the temple. 0.99

02:43:11.000 I don't even understand how he went down from this fucking perfectly placed right hand shot from a... 0.99

02:43:17.000 240 pounds, super heavyweight, all knuckles. 0.99

02:43:20.000 I'll tell you what, that's a lot of weight behind that punch. 1.00

02:43:22.000 It's a goddamn telephone pole striking you in the face. 0.99

02:43:24.000 It's not fun. 1.00

02:43:25.000 So you realize you made a mistake, Brian.

02:43:27.000 No, I'm just saying there are guys who take that shot. 1.00

02:43:28.000 Let it go, cocksucker. 1.00

02:43:30.000 Let it go. 1.00

02:43:31.000 Just realize you made a mistake. 1.00

02:43:32.000 You'll be waking up in a fucking tent. 1.00

02:43:34.000 Back up a little bit. 1.00

02:43:35.000 Just back up a little bit.

02:43:36.000 Listen to horses run on cornflakes.

02:43:38.000 You're a little out of line.

02:43:40.000 You're a little out of line, Brian.

02:43:42.000 Just back up.

02:43:45.000 Acai.

02:43:46.000 He must have known.

02:43:47.000 How long is Junior out for?

02:43:49.000 Anyone know?

02:43:50.000 Broken hands, man. 1.00

02:43:51.000 Broken hands are a motherfucker. 1.00

02:43:52.000 You know, when you get them, that's the other thing. 1.00

02:43:54.000 You start getting them more often.

02:43:56.000 Jesus.

02:43:56.000 Why does that guy have no shirt on?

02:43:58.000 Vitor has had...

02:43:59.000 Because he probably forgot his and he had to give it to him.

02:44:01.000 He's angry.

02:44:01.000 He's ready to fight.

02:44:02.000 He's mad.

02:44:03.000 Is there a steel plate?

02:44:05.000 You can...

02:44:06.000 Yeah, they do things.

02:44:07.000 They do things to your hands.

02:44:09.000 They put plates in there, surgeries.

02:44:10.000 But the bottom line is once you start breaking your hand, it's very likely you're going to break it again.

02:44:14.000 What if you put the plate before you break it?

02:44:16.000 Well, it all depends on how much time you let it heal before you get back to training.

02:44:19.000 That's the big thing.

02:44:20.000 Get some plates, Brandon. 1.00

02:44:22.000 Shit, you'd be fucking knocking out Cain Velasquez's one punch. 1.00

02:44:26.000 We didn't watch the full Mousasi fight. 1.00

02:44:31.000 We didn't see the end of it.

02:44:33.000 Steel plate on your elbow.

02:44:34.000 Can you imagine that?

02:44:36.000 On your foot?

02:44:37.000 Hey, right now, there's no laws against it.

02:44:39.000 They should jump on it.

02:44:40.000 Don't wait for it to break. 1.00

02:44:41.000 Jump on that shit. 1.00

02:44:42.000 If you did like a Wolverine thing. 1.00

02:44:43.000 Yeah, why not?

02:44:45.000 I'm going to find it here for us.

02:44:48.000 Find it so we can watch...

02:44:51.000 Mousasi.

02:44:52.000 And there's no way you can put it over there, right?

02:44:54.000 No, unfortunately, it's on my...

02:44:56.000 We'll watch the whole thing since we have the time.

02:45:01.000 Brian Stan, John Anik, live in Brazil.

02:45:04.000 Stipe Miocic, man. 1.00

02:45:05.000 He's a motherfucker, dude. 1.00

02:45:06.000 He is a motherfucker. 1.00

02:45:08.000 Did you see Kenny Florian and Renato do that scene from Heat? 1.00

02:45:13.000 Mm-hmm.

02:45:13.000 No.

02:45:14.000 You haven't seen that?

02:45:16.000 No.

02:45:16.000 Dude, Renato and Kenny Florian do the scene from Heat where they sit in the diner.

02:45:21.000 Oh, that's great! 0.97

02:45:22.000 It's fucking incredible. 0.98

02:45:24.000 Really? 1.00

02:45:24.000 Dude, it's fucking... 1.00

02:45:26.000 It's Renato! 1.00

02:45:28.000 Doing Robert De Niro.

02:45:30.000 Oh my god. 0.99

02:45:31.000 So there's a lot of inside shit that most people wouldn't understand. 0.99

02:45:35.000 Is that on YouTube? 0.99

02:45:35.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:45:36.000 Oh my god.

02:45:37.000 I'm having a hard time.

02:45:38.000 He's got his own show.

02:45:39.000 He's got his own internet show that's a huge smash called the Renato Laranja Show that's being produced by Flixpoint.

02:45:45.000 Oh my god.

02:45:46.000 You go to YouTube, put it in Flixpoint, Renato Laranja.

02:45:50.000 Dude, there's a scene where Renato gives Darth Vader a jiu-jitsu lesson.

02:45:54.000 And he gives, dude, after the lesson, he gives him a stripe on his white belt.

02:45:58.000 Oh my god.

02:45:59.000 Darth Vader.

02:46:00.000 Oh my god.

02:46:01.000 For some reason, this thing is not allowing me to fast forward it.

02:46:07.000 I'm having a hard time figuring out how to fast forward it.

02:46:08.000 Maybe it needs to buffer.

02:46:10.000 Yeah, it must be.

02:46:11.000 It must be, because Luke Barnett is fighting, and he was earlier on that card.

02:46:15.000 I like him.

02:46:15.000 He's awesome.

02:46:15.000 Yeah.

02:46:16.000 Do you want to watch this fight?

02:46:17.000 Yeah, go for it.

02:46:17.000 Do you guys want to do that, or do you want to get some dinner?

02:46:19.000 Because it's almost 10 o'clock.

02:46:20.000 I'm starving.

02:46:21.000 Yeah, let's just watch this Musashi fight.

02:46:22.000 That fight goes to the decision.

02:46:23.000 Luke Burnett loses.

02:46:24.000 Sorry. 0.99

02:46:25.000 Oh, shit. 0.99

02:46:25.000 I can't believe he just had that. 0.99

02:46:27.000 Now I'm trying to eat, son.

02:46:28.000 What's up now, son?

02:46:30.000 Tight move, huh?

02:46:31.000 Brian, give me some air damage. 0.97

02:46:31.000 There it is, baby. 0.97

02:46:32.000 I know you're hungry.

02:46:33.000 Uh-huh.

02:46:35.000 Yeah, it's buffering.

02:46:36.000 Hey, if you're in Southern California, you want to go to my show tomorrow, eddiebravoinvitational.com.

02:46:42.000 Tickets are $25.

02:46:43.000 We made it nice and cheap.

02:46:45.000 Tomorrow at 4.30 in Hollywood.

02:46:49.000 What time would it end?

02:46:51.000 It all depends on how fast the matches go.

02:46:53.000 It could end in an hour, or it could last three or four hours.

02:46:56.000 Is there no time limit?

02:46:57.000 It's just submissions only?

02:46:58.000 No, no, no.

02:46:58.000 It's submission only.

02:47:00.000 10 minute rounds and we have a submission based overtime like extra innings like we go in overtime I get to get on your back with double over under with both leg hooks. 0.83

02:47:09.000 What?

02:47:10.000 It's like extra innings.

02:47:11.000 It's extra innings.

02:47:12.000 If I get you then you get a chance on my back If I escape, then I win.

02:47:19.000 It's like extra innings.

02:47:19.000 That's cool.

02:47:20.000 But if you tap me too, then we go another extra innings.

02:47:22.000 Yeah, it's like overtime college football.

02:47:23.000 You both get a chance to attack.

02:47:25.000 We both get a chance to attack.

02:47:27.000 That's dope. 0.93

02:47:27.000 That's our overtime. 0.93

02:47:28.000 That's sweet, man.

02:47:28.000 You know, 10-minute rounds and then three maximum overtime innings, extra innings.

02:47:35.000 If we go three innings and it's still tight, like maybe the first round, both got a sub.

02:47:39.000 Second round, both escaped.

02:47:41.000 Third round, both escaped.

02:47:42.000 So you can sub each other more than once in a match?

02:47:44.000 It's like extra innings.

02:47:46.000 We both get a chance.

02:47:47.000 Yeah, we go into overtime.

02:47:49.000 Instead of overtime being based on wrestling, which whoever has the best wrestling will win, a lot of wrestlers will stall and want to win in overtime because they know that wrestling is dominant.

02:47:58.000 We're trying to eliminate that.

02:48:00.000 So how does it work?

02:48:02.000 Let's say we go 10 minutes and there's no submission.

02:48:04.000 Then we go into overtime.

02:48:06.000 It's like extra innings in baseball.

02:48:08.000 You're the top half of an inning.

02:48:10.000 You get my back, both leg hooks, with an over-under.

02:48:13.000 If you submit me, now I get a chance to get you.

02:48:17.000 If you escape, you win.

02:48:19.000 Because I couldn't score.

02:48:20.000 We both had a chance, you scored.

02:48:22.000 But if you tap me too, then we go another inning.

02:48:25.000 Then you get on my back, I escape.

02:48:27.000 Then I get on your back, you escape.

02:48:29.000 We go another inning.

02:48:31.000 And then the next inning, you tap me, and then when I get my shot, you escape, you win.

02:48:36.000 That's interesting.

02:48:37.000 Sweet.

02:48:37.000 How did you come up with this idea?

02:48:39.000 Lots of cannabis.

02:48:42.000 Lots of cannabis.

02:48:43.000 Allegedly.

02:48:43.000 Yes, yes.

02:48:44.000 Allegedly.

02:48:45.000 We've been doing this at the Midwest Submission Challenge in the Midwest, and it's working out great.

02:48:50.000 You know, so we're trying it out, and...

02:48:55.000 The whole format was all designed to try to make jujitsu exciting enough so networks would want to air it.

02:49:02.000 Because we got dog frisbee.

02:49:04.000 We got ridiculous sports being aired.

02:49:06.000 We have to have...

02:49:07.000 There's no reason to not have jujitsu on TV. But the only way you're going to do it is you've got to eliminate the point system because that'll never work.

02:49:13.000 We've had jujitsu with the point system for 20 years.

02:49:15.000 We don't see any TV out.

02:49:17.000 People have looked at it and they're like, no way.

02:49:19.000 We can't put this on TV. So it has to be submission only.

02:49:24.000 Ultimately, it's got to be about money.

02:49:26.000 It's got to be like a game show.

02:49:27.000 A 60-man bracket and the guy who wins it all, he's the only guy who gets paid.

02:49:32.000 Then that'll increase the urgency.

02:49:34.000 Make it submission only.

02:49:36.000 Give submission bonuses and incentive.

02:49:40.000 That way you throw so much money at it, these guys are in there to make as much money as possible.

02:49:44.000 Right?

02:49:44.000 So that translates to entertainment for the guys watching.

02:49:48.000 Because, you know, that's really who's important here.

02:49:51.000 The audience. 1.00

02:49:52.000 We want to make it so the audience can't wait to see this shit. 0.99

02:49:55.000 And the only way that's going to happen is you provide jujitsu matches that are incredible. 0.99

02:50:00.000 Incredible. 0.99

02:50:00.000 You're like, oh shit. 0.99

02:50:02.000 Yes, there's still going to be some boring matches, but overall, you want like 60-70% of the matches to be exciting enough so that your average UFC fan will enjoy it. 0.98

02:50:11.000 Because right now, most UFC fans do not want to watch the Mundials and do not want to watch ADCC. They're into MMA. They don't want to watch it.

02:50:18.000 They dip into it.

02:50:19.000 There's so many people that are fans of the UFC that would be down for grappling and they would be down to watch it, even though they didn't do jiu-jitsu.

02:50:28.000 If it was exciting enough.

02:50:30.000 And that's what I'm trying to do.

02:50:31.000 I may fail miserably, but I'm trying.

02:50:34.000 I'm trying to make jiu-jitsu as entertaining as possible.

02:50:37.000 Not to make money.

02:50:39.000 Just to make jiu-jitsu cooler.

02:50:41.000 That's it.

02:50:41.000 Okay, Mousasi and Munoz.

02:50:45.000 We are fighting right now, and I started it while you were still talking, so I'll back it up so we can get a chance to check this out.

02:50:51.000 So Mark's game plan, all we worked on was movement and be unpredictable.

02:50:55.000 Change your levels and not only just shoot for takedowns, but set it up with your big hands.

02:51:00.000 But you can tell right away, he kind of just shoots from...

02:51:03.000 That's way too far to shoot right there.

02:51:05.000 Especially on a guy like Musashi.

02:51:06.000 It's getting harder and harder to take dudes down.

02:51:09.000 Look, he's got a hold of them.

02:51:10.000 He's got them up.

02:51:12.000 And boom! 0.98

02:51:13.000 Takes him down.

02:51:15.000 Can't control him.

02:51:16.000 Amazing.

02:51:18.000 Amazing base by Mousasi.

02:51:20.000 So the whole camp, the biggest thing was level changes and movement for Mark.

02:51:24.000 Don't get backed up to the cage and come over the right hand over Mousasi's jab.

02:51:31.000 It's easier said than done when you have a vicious striker coming at you.

02:51:34.000 I'm just telling you, that was the game plan, dog.

02:51:36.000 I'm just telling you what our plan was, and then obviously you see it come to life here.

02:51:40.000 He's got the long arms.

02:51:42.000 Even as beautiful a wrestler as Munoz is, he's top level in the UFC. He's facing a guy who didn't wrestle in college and he's having a hard time taking him down.

02:51:53.000 It's getting hard to take dudes down.

02:51:56.000 So when you're in a situation like this, in a scenario where you're Munoz and your sole mission is to take him down and beat him on the ground.

02:52:04.000 And if he can't do that, which is coming up all the time, he's forced into a kickboxing match where he's outclassed on a situation.

02:52:11.000 But this is why it's hard to take him down, because Musashi doesn't commit to his punches.

02:52:16.000 He doesn't rush in.

02:52:17.000 He's always using his length.

02:52:18.000 You'll see him.

02:52:19.000 He's jabbing, jabbing, leaning in the right hand.

02:52:21.000 He never rushes in.

02:52:22.000 He's got a good start.

02:52:24.000 His base is far back.

02:52:26.000 His base is very far back.

02:52:27.000 Yeah, look how low he gets.

02:52:28.000 He's so relaxed, too.

02:52:30.000 Look how low he gets.

02:52:31.000 And by pulling back when you're low like that, you give yourself an extra six inches where that dude can't punch you.

02:52:38.000 Mark should be level changing here.

02:52:40.000 Look how low he is. 0.97

02:52:45.000 Musasi was really fucking impressive in the Machida fight too, man. 0.97

02:52:48.000 Machida obviously was more impressive, but I was impressed by his ability to take a shot too. 0.98

02:52:53.000 Machida head kicked him, man. 1.00

02:52:54.000 That was a good shot by Mark.

02:52:55.000 See, right there?

02:52:56.000 That was a good shot.

02:52:56.000 He just defended it.

02:52:57.000 Here's the guillotine.

02:52:59.000 Mark, in the middle of that shot...

02:53:01.000 He could have pulled half guard and tried to get on top another way, because there's two ways to get on top for Mark.

02:53:07.000 Either take him down with a classic wrestling takedown that he's so good at, or you take the long way to get on top.

02:53:13.000 You can't take the guy down.

02:53:14.000 He's hard.

02:53:15.000 He's got good base.

02:53:16.000 It's way easy to shoot and pull half guard, and you've got to have some high-quality...

02:53:22.000 Half guard sweeps, but that's how Noguera beat Tim Sylvia.

02:53:26.000 You better be super high level.

02:53:28.000 Every fighter should be trying to get super high level because that's how Noguera beat Tim Sylvia. 0.93

02:53:31.000 Noguera cannot take Tim Sylvia down.

02:53:33.000 Tim Sylvia was winning on his feet.

02:53:35.000 The way Noguera got the fight to the ground is he shot, he pulled half guard, and then he swept him.

02:53:39.000 He swept him and got on top.

02:53:41.000 Here's how crazy this elbow rule is.

02:53:43.000 Mark doesn't have the time to do that jiu-jitsu.

02:53:45.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:53:45.000 He's too far in his career now to learn that.

02:53:47.000 Here's how crazy the elbow rule is.

02:53:49.000 Look at that nasty crank. 1.00

02:53:51.000 Ouch! 1.00

02:53:51.000 He would be amazing. 1.00

02:53:52.000 He would be so confident where he could pull half guard and sweep instead of committing.

02:53:56.000 It's just not in his nature though.

02:53:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:53:58.000 He's got to change.

02:54:00.000 He's got to adapt because this guy's not even a wrestler and he can't take him down.

02:54:03.000 It's getting hard.

02:54:04.000 It's getting hard these days.

02:54:06.000 I want to talk about these elbows.

02:54:08.000 It's so crazy that you can do a downward elbow as long as it's on the side.

02:54:12.000 As long as it's sideways.

02:54:13.000 That makes sense. 0.98

02:54:14.000 It's totally ridiculous. 1.00

02:54:15.000 It's stupid. 1.00

02:54:16.000 It's the same exact movement as a 12-6. 1.00

02:54:18.000 It's going 12-6 sideways.

02:54:21.000 Who made that rule?

02:54:22.000 The Nevada Athletic Commission?

02:54:24.000 Look at that mount. 0.99

02:54:25.000 Goddamn, that mount was nice. 0.99

02:54:27.000 If Munoz had a sick, sick half guard, it would look a lot different. 1.00

02:54:31.000 Look at it, he got him here.

02:54:32.000 It's not going to happen though, you know what I'm saying?

02:54:33.000 Why not?

02:54:34.000 Why not?

02:54:34.000 He's not committing himself to that.

02:54:36.000 Why not?

02:54:37.000 Mark's going to fight.

02:54:37.000 Maybe he will.

02:54:38.000 Why wouldn't he?

02:54:39.000 I know Mark very well.

02:54:40.000 Mark's going to fight one more time in the Philippines and then call it quits, I bet.

02:54:43.000 Oh really?

02:54:43.000 Yep.

02:54:44.000 Has he been thinking about calling it quits anyway?

02:54:47.000 Yeah, maybe.

02:54:48.000 You want to talk about it?

02:54:49.000 Well, my point is maybe he retires after this, but I believe if he had a sick half guard... 1.00

02:54:56.000 He's old.

02:54:58.000 Man, 36. He's had a lot of fights, too, in wrestling.

02:55:02.000 He just doesn't have the time to commit to it.

02:55:04.000 Yeah, well, he does a bunch of them.

02:55:06.000 I'm with you, man. 1.00

02:55:07.000 That'd be dope as shit. 1.00

02:55:08.000 I'm with you. 1.00

02:55:08.000 Yeah, you try to take him down, but when you figure out, I can't take this guy down. 1.00

02:55:12.000 Second round, third round, your corner should be saying, listen, you can't take this motherfucker down. 1.00

02:55:17.000 You're going to shoot, pull half guard, and sweep this motherfucker. 1.00

02:55:20.000 There's so many sweeps you could do from half guard. 1.00

02:55:22.000 You can get on top that way.

02:55:24.000 Noguero's done it. 1.00

02:55:24.000 Many people have done that. 1.00

02:55:25.000 You just don't pay attention.

02:55:26.000 We're completely out of time.

02:55:27.000 We're four minutes.

02:55:28.000 This thing's going to shut off. 0.99

02:55:29.000 Okay, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.88

02:55:30.000 I gotta wrap it up. 0.89

02:55:32.000 Everybody listening, we'll do this every time we get a chance. 0.99

02:55:35.000 It's fun as shit. 0.97

02:55:35.000 You guys gonna come to my show? 0.97

02:55:36.000 I know Joe can't go.

02:55:38.000 I can't.

02:55:38.000 You wanna go?

02:55:39.000 I can't tomorrow.

02:55:40.000 You can't.

02:55:40.000 Great.

02:55:41.000 Can you go?

02:55:41.000 Maybe I will.

02:55:42.000 Wow, that's amazing.

02:55:44.000 That's amazing.

02:55:45.000 Jamie, do you wanna go to my show tomorrow?

02:55:48.000 Let me wrap this up.

02:55:49.000 Jesus Christ.

02:55:50.000 Thank you guys for the support.

02:55:51.000 We'll do these whenever we can, ladies and gentlemen.

02:55:54.000 We do these whenever we can.

02:55:55.000 I'm going to watch a DVD with my girlfriend.

02:55:57.000 Thank you.

02:55:57.000 Oh my God.

02:56:00.000 We do these whenever we can, but they're a lot of fun.

02:56:02.000 But here's the thing, you can't expect us to call the fights.

02:56:05.000 If we're hanging out, you're just watching the fights with us. 0.99

02:56:07.000 If we want to talk shit, that's fine. 0.98

02:56:08.000 If we want to call the fights, that's fine too. 0.99

02:56:10.000 But you've got to just accept what it is.

02:56:12.000 You guys don't even talk about the fights!

02:56:14.000 Exactly.

02:56:15.000 I've already got those Twitters. 1.00

02:56:16.000 Go fuck your mother. 1.00

02:56:18.000 We're going to talk about whatever we want. 1.00

02:56:19.000 Stop. 1.00

02:56:20.000 Damn, look at Gilbert Melendez! 1.00

02:56:22.000 I didn't know he was so articulate. 0.99

02:56:24.000 Alright, that's it.

02:56:24.000 We're out of time.

02:56:25.000 Thank you, everybody.

02:56:26.000 Good night.

02:56:26.000 We'll be back next week with actual real podcasts that aren't fight companions.

02:56:30.000 But again, we'll do this again.

02:56:32.000 Eddie Bravo, will you do this again with us? 1.00

02:56:33.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

02:56:34.000 Are you kidding? 1.00

02:56:34.000 This is one of the funnest podcasts of all time. 1.00

02:56:37.000 I'm not doing it again.

02:56:38.000 I get made fun of. 1.00

02:56:39.000 Shut up, bitch. 1.00

02:56:40.000 No, we'll bring you back. 1.00

02:56:40.000 We'll bring you back. 1.00

02:56:41.000 Good night, everybody.

02:56:42.000 See you soon.

02:56:43.000 See you Monday.

02:56:44.000 Big kiss.

The Joe Rogan Experience - June 01, 2014

Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - May 31, 2014

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