Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - Sept. 20, 2014
Summary
Live Fight Compilation is a live podcast on the UFC Fight Night event between Mark Hunt and Roy Nelson in Las Vegas at the Bell Center. We talk about the fight, what it's like to be a UFC fighter, and the crazy things we do to prepare for a fight night. We also talk about our favorite fights of all time, and what we would do if we were in the middle of training for one of them. And of course, we talk a little bit about some current events in the world of UFC. Enjoy the fight and stay tuned for more Fight Night Compilation coming soon. Cheers! -Your Hosts: & Brian Callen Eddy Bravo Ben Saunders Chad Mendez Mark Hunt Joe Namajunas TJ Dillashaw . Travis Brown Dana White Jon Bones Jones Conor McGregor Jose Aldo Tyron Woodley Rory Mcgregor John Karagous Josh Taylor Luke Maeda And much more! Thanks for listening to Fight Night! -Bryan Callen and Eddie Bravo -Thanks for listening and supporting the podcast! Thank you so much for being a part of this journey with us, we really appreciate it! -Your support is greatly appreciated. - Brian and Eddy Thanks also for your support and support is so appreciated! -Chad and Eddie! - Thank you for being there for supporting us! - Your support is much appreciated! CHEERS! -Jon & Eddy & Ben -Jon and Eddie - Cheers, Ben & Eddie Thank You! - Ben & Edgy - Thank You for all the love & support! -Tune in! -Sergio -Drew & Brian - -JOSH -Shawn -Sue -Tristan -Cody - Jaxon - Jake -Alyssa -Kane -Manny -ROBERT -Ben -Eddie -Vitor -Gynn -Jake -Chandler -Joe - Todt -John -Brandon -Brendan and the rest? -Hilary -Chris -Tom with a new song -
Transcript
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It's really the 19th for everybody that's paying attention.
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It says September 20th, but it's really Friday night.
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Brian Callen's supposed to be here, but of course he's fucking late.
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And we're just looking at the blank screen right now while Mark Hunt is going to face Roy Big Motherfucking Country Nelson tonight.
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We might not be able to smoke weed with Brendan Schaub in the room, though.
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I trained twice today because I knew tonight's going to be a doozy.
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When you schedule, when you ramp up for a fight, so you're fighting in December 6th, when you're ramping up the train.
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I don't watch UFCs unless there's a chick fighting.
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She was a little plump, and she got in some serious shape.
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How cool would it be if she came out in the schoolgirl uniforms?
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Remember that dude that used to do that for Pride?
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Dude, the national pastime is to be into schoolgirls.
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Her biggest thing that she's ever done, she dressed up like a bunny.
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We'll let you know as soon as the fights start.
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I don't know why the fights are a little bit late.
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I don't know if that means somebody fucked up or they're having a problem.
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We were watching it earlier, though, which doesn't make any sense.
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Dude, any fight you could think of in the UFC, you could just watch it.
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When I cornered Ben Saunders at the Tulsa event, I get there Friday night.
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He asked me to corner him like a week before, and he goes, dude, you want to come down?
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And he had been playing rubber guard off and on over the years and he was playing a different version.
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And then he kind of moved away from it because I figured, I figured that he would hit a dead end with that style.
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But I didn't want to say anything because it was kind of working for him.
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And then he got cut from the UFC, went to Bellator, he'd win some, he'd lose some.
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And I kind of lost track of what he was really doing.
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And then he saw the Hickson video, the video that we did here.
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He goes, hey man, when are you going to do a seminar in Florida?
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He realized he was planning stuff wrong and he wanted to fix it.
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So I said, well, I don't have anything planned in Florida, but I do have a little rubber guard genius out there, a guy named Tyler Woolsey.
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As soon as he got done with Tyler, he said, dude, I want you to corner me next week.
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And so Friday night, I get there Friday night, I go right to his hotel.
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His opponent, I think, it wasn't on, he wasn't, I don't think he fought in the UFC before, but he had Fight Pass.
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So we put on, I wanted to keep it really simple for him with rubber guard.
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There's pieces of the rubber guard that I don't even know how to play yet.
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Brandon Schaub's got a little bit of a fucking coffee problem.
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And when I stop fighting, it's going to become drugs.
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Well, my point was, with the UFC fight passes, I get there Friday night, and we kept it really simple.
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Simple rubber guard, mission control with elbows.
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It was an amazing display of elbows from the guard.
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But with UFC Fight Pass, man, boom, any UFC fight.
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Is it every single fight that the UFC's ever had?
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It's every single fight the UFC's had and every single...
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Because everything that I could think of came up, but I'm thinking maybe the old ones.
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If I'm wrong, I apologize, but I'm pretty sure everything's in there.
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Otherwise, we'll go off the screen because it's running through my laptop.
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I don't think there's anything that's not in there.
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There's also a crazy show called UFC Now with a couple of cutie pies on there.
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Like, he'll get into modes where he wants to say something, and it doesn't matter what the fuck you're saying.
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What he has to say, like, it has no relation whatsoever to what you're saying.
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I met a guy, he wrote a book, and he'll go on to this fucking...
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Like, he has this thought in his head, it's like a runaway train.
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One of the things you recognize about comedians, it's like that same thing that makes them really funny.
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It's this mad dog bum rush over to get attention.
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Nobody's better at commanding attention than Count.
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He goes, Bro, instead of selling t-shirts, I got a great idea.
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But for a second, I'm like thinking, damn, they're jumping on Brian.
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It's like 1982. Well, not only that, who the fuck's got room for a jacuzzi?
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Let's see who these guys are that are fighting here.
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That's Bud's show, where they take a car and they completely redo it for like a week.
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He has nothing to do with that show anymore, right?
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See, if the guy was smart and he's a striker, if he's that good of a striker, he'd probably try to get away, right?
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Because that guy would be much more helpless in a non-clinching situation.
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Well, the raffle will force him to stand up, too.
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You get hit to the body, drop to your butt to buy time until the ref stands you up.
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He caught Tito with that body shot, that knee to the body.
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Eddie Bravo's being sarcastic, and he's a master guard player, and 90% of people won't catch that.
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I thought maybe he was saying it in MMA. I thought he was saying it in MMA. 90% of people won't catch it.
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To him, it's like chess moves that are really stupid.
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You see someone doing a dumb chess move, and you and I are like, what is he talking about?
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Well, other people, you know, who know Eddie, you know exactly what he's doing.
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It shouldn't be your first option, but it should be in the third.
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Bro, if I'm for Doom and Kane's beat me up against the cage, I'm pulling half guard.
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But that Haraguchi dude, that guy's got a nasty left kick to the body.
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Well, you know, no one is really a fucking flyweight anymore.
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They're all like 150 pounds and then they're a flyweight for an hour.
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I mean, that's what's going on now with all these weight classes.
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Jesus, Dolce was telling me that Nick Lentz walks around at like a buck 70, a buck 75, and he gets down to 145. That's insane.
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And he was struggling to get down to 55 before he came to Dolce.
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Either way, there's going to be a diminishing return.
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I don't care what Dolce says, and I love Dolce as much as the next guy, but no matter what you say, that can't be healthy.
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Healthier ways, but there's no way he's performing at it.
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The way Nick Lentz cuts, though, he was saying, yes, he walks around at 175 or whatever, and he does get to 45, but he does it...
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Horiguchi's a bad motherfucker on his feet, man.
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The kid is here dressed like he's going to take the SATs.
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Before you came in, Eddie goes, we should sell...
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Eddie Bravo was thinking you should probably sell some sort of hot tub type equipment.
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One guy is 65 inches, the other guy is 66 inches.
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I have a new boyfriend, so it doesn't really matter.
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Well, he's a Japanese guy, but he's of Korean descent, right?
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Yeah, I think for some reason he's got some sort of a Korean background.
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I'd look, but my TV... Jamie, can you look that up?
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You don't need a special glass for your fucking fruity drink.
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Dude, look how much bigger Brian Stan is to this guy.
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There is no room for anybody but bad motherfuckers at 125. You better be a black belt in everything.
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70 and below, you better be a black belt in everything.
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Because when you're that small, especially in wrestling and jiu-jitsu, you have to be so technical to just survive in the sport.
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Dude, when you got a guy like a Hector Lombard out there...
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Dude, I never saw anybody ragdoll Jake Shields the way he did.
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When he tossed him around, just smashed him in the first round like a fucking hurricane, like refrigerators were flying down the street in Kansas.
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Jake Shields almost caught him at the end of that barrage.
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When you look at Hector Lombard, you can't believe he gets down to 170. He's a beast.
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I told you I saw him on the street from a distance.
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Like you knew what it was when you went out to buy it?
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The American palate likes an obvious jammy big wine for the most part.
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I go with the old world wines, ladies and gentlemen.
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Who has the best ass in MMA? Without question, 100%.
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A couple of honeydews with cotton stretched over them.
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He was in the airport and he was going through security and he took his shoes off and I could not peel my eyes from his ass.
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Well, you know, there's a few guys like that in the UFC that move, they move it like a notch over everybody.
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Like Woodley, Tyron Woodley, when Woodley's on, when Woodley, when he knocked out Jay Heron, just the movement, it's like, get out of the way!
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When he's got this rush, there's certain guys that have this rush, and Lombard has it too.
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You know they ask Woodley to fight Lombard, and he's like, nah, I'm cool.
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The baddest dudes on the planet are like, no, I'm cool.
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How crazy is it that Dana will bust these guys out like that?
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But it's not even like, you know, the guy's like, oh, no, hell no.
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What are you selling if you're selling a product like the UFC? I can see two arguments.
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I can see one argument where you're like, you shouldn't talk about that because that's private.
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But you're selling the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.
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It's one thing everybody loved about Tank Abbott.
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I mean, ask anybody who fought in the UFC about the benefits.
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What were you saying about, Joe, you were saying...
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You were talking about him saying that someone turned down a fight.
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It's like, now you will believe him when he says, this guy will take any fight.
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I can call him up at any time, like Donald Cerrone.
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I can call Donald Cerrone up and say, hey, I'm setting a fight with, fill in the blank.
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He probably has a Budweiser in his hand, he probably finishes the Budweiser, then goes jet skiing, then probably fucking shoots some guns, gets laid.
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TJ fought, I mean, they changed his fight to Joe Soto, the fucking day of the weigh-ins.
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The day of the weigh-ins, Burrell can't make weight, falls, hits his head.
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Joe Soto, who had won the Bellator title, lost it to Joe Warren, got signed by the UFC, won a bunch of fights in a row, good fights.
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Came to the UFC. His fucking debut, his UFC debut, he fights for the title against TJ Dillashaw.
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It's a different kind of animal to call somebody like, yo, Hector Lombard, you got eight weeks.
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Hey, Brendan, do you think there's fighters out there That get off on fighting the scariest guys.
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Yeah, like, literally, like, when me and him were going back and forth on Twitter, the stuff you'd say to me, like, DM me, I was like, damn, this fool's for real.
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By the way, this guy, Conor McGregor, seems like the kind of guy I'll take all comers.
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The way he beat Eric Koch, I was like, oh shit.
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He's got this in-and-out style that's very deceptive, man.
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There's a lot of dudes, and you see them throwing punches and throwing kicks, but they're very mechanical.
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They step forward, and they just throw predictable combinations.
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He drags guys into these things and then counters.
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It wasn't in UFC. He just does stuff that you don't usually see.
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I don't think he's ready for a top, top level guy.
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And a guy like Poirier is a guy that you could see a giant jump from him in just four or five months.
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He's at this stage where he knew Coke was about to fight for the title.
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When the fight got called because of injury, Koch was like set to fight for the title.
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You know how we're talking about guys who take whatever fight, just go, yep, give it to us.
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There's a fine line, and this is where management comes into place.
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Because the fighter should always accept the fight.
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Anytime my manager calls me, I go, yep, let's do it.
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The manager being the guy whose ego is presumably not attached to any bullshit.
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True fighters are like, yeah, I can beat anyone in the world.
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But when you're dealing with, say you have a client at 170, and they go, hey, we want to fight Hector Lombard in Australia where he lives.
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Why don't you fly down there for 20 hours to get that ass whooped?
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A manager's going to be like, uh, I don't think so.
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Yeah, and there's, I mean, you've, I'm sure, experienced it yourself, the difference between you now and you when you're on tough.
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If you could go back and fight you when you're on tough, you'd probably beat your ass.
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What do you think of the new tough with the girls?
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So I trained with her in Endeavor when she very first started.
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And Rose is chasing her down with combinations.
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If she does well on this show, she's going to be your next.
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Her grinding grappling on the ground and positioning.
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Because then someone might be able to take her down and stuff her.
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If she's doing flying arm bars, she's got to be...
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But you know, sometimes there's those people with like, they have one crazy move, and they're like, oh, do a shrimp for me.
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You can't even shrimp, but you can do a flying armbar.
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It's because they came to the gym, and the first day they came in, they showed them a flying triangle, a flying armbar, but they can't do anything else.
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Do you remember when Peta Pano fought Vinny Magalese and Vinny Magalese caught him with a fucking beautiful flying truck?
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If you watch it again, look at where her legs are on the arm bars.
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Her legs are in a very bad spot as far as an arm bar.
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Well, at the end of it, it wasn't though, right?
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I thought at the end she finished it with her two arms in.
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Eddie Bravo, you might know a thing or two about jiu-jitsu.
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Well, you know, when you teach every day, I'm analyzing everybody.
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I can't help it every time I'm just correcting.
00:28:08.000
That's so true, but if she got into this situation, do you think she should have tried to finish it before she got her leg free?
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Or if she felt strong, should she have gone for it the way she did?
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Because she was obviously tangled up like that.
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It's hard to tell what was going on in her mind.
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Maybe she thought, I know my leg's in a bad spot, but she's just leaving her leg hanging, so I'm just going to keep it there.
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See, that girl's right leg was just dangling over.
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But damn, how quick did she hit that fucking flying arm bar, man?
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She has the attitude to be a champion, I'll put it that way.
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And that whole wild dance she did after she won?
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I mean, her face is, she's like a little Angelina Jolie.
00:29:33.000
Powerful Eddie Bravo catching the bad positioning on the ledge.
00:29:54.000
Everybody goes to that deep half now, Eddie, huh?
00:29:59.000
A lot of guys go to the deep half on the ground now, don't they?
00:30:07.000
The deep half, you just gotta go with it, right?
00:30:11.000
Everyone's growing their beard out, though, huh?
00:30:22.000
So when you grow a beard, does it just look like a homeless banjo player type beard?
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Yeah, I look like Venice, Venice freaking selling bullshit art.
00:31:09.000
Yeah, that is like a standard masculine look now.
00:31:50.000
And it manifests itself in how people decorate themselves.
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They see celebrities doing it and then they jump on it.
00:32:04.000
Have you ever fucked around with a Thai steel cup?
00:32:24.000
I rolled with Amir Renovardi at Legends, and he used to roll with a Thai steel cup on, and he would mount you.
00:32:43.000
You're not allowed to protect your balls because cups are so dangerous.
00:32:51.000
I agree, but I think a cup that doesn't hurt, like a diamond cup, like a softer plastic cup, I think should be okay.
00:33:06.000
Bro, you know I only wear a cup when I'm fighting.
00:33:19.000
Well, you have to wear it in the UFC. I wouldn't wear one if I didn't have to.
00:33:33.000
And it was one of those things where you're like, I don't need a cup.
00:33:38.000
And you got me hooked up with the diamond cup since you told me this story.
00:33:47.000
What is the difference between a regular hug watcher and a diamond cup?
00:33:52.000
If you think about Lance Armstrong, man, first of all, Lance Armstrong, you could never do what Lance Armstrong was doing in the UFC because you'd get caught.
00:34:04.000
Are you saying because he's taking a lot of drugs?
00:34:18.000
That guy was a fucking science experiment, man.
00:34:36.000
He probably had some genetic advantages, but he's the best shooter.
00:34:40.000
They're like, oh, these guys, steroids, blah, blah, blah.
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I hate to tell you, it's a level playing field.
00:35:06.000
Yeah, if there's anything to suck at in MMA, or to not be as good or suck in comparison to your opponent, the scary thing is striking.
00:35:17.000
That's why a guy like a Lombard is so fucking terrifying, because he does both.
00:35:23.000
You ever see that video of him breaking that dude's leg in a grappling competition?
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It looked like an ankle lock, so probably his ankle.
00:35:44.000
I don't remember what kind of leg lock it was, but it was nasty.
00:36:03.000
By the way, who is fucking tougher if you had a generalization about a nation?
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They've done some studies on the people that can endure the toughest.
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The toughest soldiers, they say, traditionally are Koreans and Turks.
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Their legendary ability to endure hardship and stuff.
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There's some Korean fighters that are really good.
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There's a few Korean fighters that are really good.
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Korea's started to build this really good base now.
00:36:59.000
But, like, Bigfoot was, like, way over 300 pounds.
00:37:03.000
Remember he fought that dude, the big jiu-jitsu dude, Eric, guy from Hawaii, Eric Pele?
00:37:19.000
Was that in Elite XC? Goddammit, I don't remember.
00:37:26.000
Man, I can't remember what happened to that, but Pele was huge.
00:37:32.000
You see how Mark Hunt started camp at 340 pounds.
00:38:01.000
And by the way, he's got some of the most beautiful walk-away KOs.
00:38:08.000
And yeah, yeah, Chris Tugger, and how about Chek Kongo?
00:38:13.000
Goddamn, that precision with that left hook he landed.
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He's got legs that are like fucking telephone poles.
00:38:32.000
If he threw a lot of leg kicks, I mean, he throws them occasionally and they have a lot of power behind them.
00:38:39.000
Even if you block it, you're going to get fucked up?
00:38:41.000
Dude, anybody who doesn't incorporate leg kicks in their game, if they could have been there when I was first starting to do commentary and I got to see Pedro Hizzo fight when he was in his prime.
00:38:55.000
It's such a ruthless weapon when it's in the hand of a guy like Pedro Hizzo.
00:39:00.000
Jesus Christ, I never heard anybody's leg kick sound like that before.
00:39:04.000
They inspired me to go and kick the bag like hundreds of times more.
00:39:09.000
Just being there from him doing that made me want to work out.
00:39:15.000
When we trained with Dwayne at your house, you were kicking it all hard.
00:39:41.000
We got in the car and my brother was like, Rogan gets harder than you, huh?
00:39:54.000
Maybe 15 years ago, I was hanging out with Joe.
00:39:58.000
We dropped off his car to get a new stereo, and we had to kill like two hours.
00:40:01.000
So there was a gym across the street, a kickboxing gym, owned by some Middle Eastern brothers that were good at kung fu and kickboxing.
00:40:11.000
We just go, we show up, we show up, and Joe's just hanging out, and I asked the guy, I made it seem like we were interested in joining, so I asked him, I go, what kind of kicks do you guys throw here?
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And I go, can you show me what kind of kicks you throw here?
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So he's all warming up, stretching out, and he's about to kick this bag.
00:40:31.000
And he looks over at Joe, and he sees Joe shadowboxing a little bit.
00:40:39.000
I wanted him to kick the bag first and then have Joe kick and look at his face.
00:40:48.000
But before he kicked the bag, he looked at Joe and says, have you ever trained?
00:41:16.000
If I have a kicking contest with him, I can get hurt and it affects my classes.
00:41:22.000
If you guys want to come to the class, I'll show you the kicks in class.
00:41:44.000
You only work with a fucking professional fighter.
00:41:56.000
The hardest kick I've ever seen, I'll go on record saying this, is Joe Rogan.
00:42:03.000
We got in the car, and I thought everyone was going to be talking about my boxing, right?
00:42:17.000
Well, I started doing it when I was a little kid.
00:42:21.000
When I would commentate for King of the Cage back in the day, this was like in 2000, I would work with Joe every now and then.
00:42:31.000
This was like 2000, 2001. And I'm thinking, are kicks from a guy this size supposed to be this hard?
00:42:43.000
I can only imagine if I didn't have the bags how it would hurt on my arms.
00:42:48.000
So at John Jocks there was a bag, one bag in his jiu-jitsu school.
00:42:51.000
And it was filled, the class was filled with guys that wear black belts in karate.
00:42:56.000
They were trying to add jiu-jitsu to their system.
00:42:59.000
So I wanted to know if maybe this was just normal.
00:43:04.000
So I would say, I would have guys go, Dave, can you kick the bag right here?
00:43:09.000
So he would kick and I go, Joe, now you kick it.
00:43:14.000
And then we're like, oh my god, it is incredible.
00:43:18.000
I wanted to make sure I knew what I was talking about.
00:43:23.000
So I remember commentating for King of the Cage and Rico Rodriguez was a Backstage, and we were hanging out, and he was the only one I saw that would throw turning sidekicks.
00:43:35.000
Right away, he was showing me how powerful it can be.
00:43:38.000
And I remember taking a video of Joe doing turning sidekicks in his old house in the garage, showing it backstage to Rico Rodriguez.
00:43:46.000
I'm like, look, dude, you got to take lessons from Joe Rogan.
00:43:51.000
And I remember him looking at the screen and you couldn't really tell on that little...
00:43:54.000
It was a little LCD screen for my video camera.
00:44:26.000
I said, when you fight Brock Lesnar, throw this fucking kick.
00:44:36.000
He walked into fucking the Boulder Jiu-Jitsu school.
00:44:43.000
And I swear to God, it took me a half a second to realize it was Shane Carwin, because I thought I was watching, like, a movie.
00:44:49.000
I thought I was watching a movie where, like, the thing shows up.
00:44:57.000
He was practicing kicks, and we kept telling him, we gotta use him, you gotta use him.
00:45:01.000
This is right before I went in the tough house.
00:45:02.000
This motherfucker decided to start using him, tore my MCL the week before I went to the ultimate fighter house.
00:45:08.000
So I went in the house with a torn MCL. He kicked me once, I said, no more, you fucking behemoth.
00:45:13.000
I can only imagine, if you look at how big his hands are, if you see how hard he punches, the punching power is gonna directly translate to kicking power.
00:45:20.000
If a guy has freaky punching power, he's gonna have freaky kicking power.
00:45:26.000
It's just a matter of how do you put in the same amount of time.
00:45:58.000
I just feel like, especially guys are so good at defending, a blue belt in the UFC with those big gloves can defend forever, so it's almost a stalling technique now.
00:46:09.000
Unless you're just a Henrik Gracie, Hiram Gracie, Eddie Bravo, Verdun, fucking nasty on someone's back, you gotta move.
00:46:17.000
You gotta move, you gotta transition to arm bar, you gotta transition to side control from it.
00:46:26.000
If I was going for the kill on the back, I would definitely put the body triangle in.
00:46:30.000
But if I wasn't, if I was thinking, he's too fresh.
00:46:33.000
In MMA, it seems like if you get a guy's back and he's fresh.
00:46:40.000
I would transition to spiderweb, the armbar position.
00:46:46.000
But if you get someone's back late and they're kind of tired and hurt, that's when you put the rear naked choke in.
00:46:56.000
If you notice, and you're not allowed to, but they grab the glove.
00:47:00.000
And it's tough to sneak the hand in around the neck because of the glove.
00:47:04.000
Do you think that there could be an argument...
00:47:08.000
Because of the fact that they're not fighting with anything on their feet.
00:47:12.000
Like, why aren't they punching each other in the face with no gloves on?
00:47:16.000
The reality being that if you punch incorrectly and if you were more wild and reckless with your punches, you would have to pay a price for it.
00:47:24.000
So we're really more protecting hands than we even are the fighter.
00:47:29.000
And in fact, it's probably better for your brain if you're getting bare knuckled.
00:47:33.000
If you're not allowed to tape your wrists up and you're not allowed to put anything on your hands, I'm sorry.
00:47:41.000
You're going to have some movement in your wrists.
00:47:43.000
When you punch, you're going to have a lot of movement.
00:47:45.000
With your kicks, you don't have any fucking movement.
00:47:52.000
And like Terry Edom, when Ezrin Barboza wheel kicked him.
00:47:59.000
So the amount of impact that you can make with a heel, like that, like a hammer.
00:48:09.000
I think there's an argument for getting rid of the gloves.
00:48:21.000
I think honestly it probably protects the hand more than it protects anything.
00:48:28.000
Bellator gloves, they have a good idea, because it's more curved, and it's more padded, and it protects the hand better.
00:48:33.000
And why would there be padding in the back of the hand?
00:48:39.000
There should just be pads on the knuckles, not on the back of the hand, that big, thick thing.
00:48:45.000
It's true, but the Bellator glove, the reason why it's so fat like that, the idea being that it's everlasting.
00:49:07.000
I think what I was saying is the Bellator glove, it supports...
00:49:14.000
You would hate it even more, Eddie, because there's more stuff on top.
00:49:22.000
I think they found that they had way less handbrakes, though.
00:49:28.000
Once they started using it, they had a bunch of handbrakes.
00:49:33.000
That's significant, because a handbrake can take you out for six months, right?
00:49:41.000
I'd be happy if they kept fighting with UFC gloves.
00:49:47.000
That it would probably be just as safe with no gloves and probably maybe even possibly safer and way better for grappling.
00:49:56.000
Have there been less pokes to the eye or more or has it been basically the same?
00:50:03.000
I would say with no gloves, if it's easier to knock a guy out, good for the show, good for the sport.
00:50:11.000
If it's easier to get submissions because you don't have all that shit, that's good for the show.
00:50:16.000
If it adds KOs and adds submissions, get rid of them.
00:50:20.000
I think if you have gloves on, you probably can KO people better.
00:50:27.000
I think you have way more protection on your wrist.
00:50:35.000
Yeah, anything to get more knockouts and more submissions.
00:50:41.000
Yeah, I mean, and also, it's like, how much work is getting done?
00:50:46.000
I mean, how much work is getting done with those fucking gloves on?
00:50:50.000
Spend a lot of time wrapping the hands for what, really, again?
00:51:15.000
Our scoring system is based entirely on the boxing scoring, so the 10-point must system.
00:51:19.000
We just arbitrarily started using 10-point must because the athletic commissions had already prepared for it.
00:51:24.000
They already had judges that knew how to score a 10 for the winner, 9 for the loser.
00:51:28.000
If it's a bad round, he scored an 8. I mean, this is a way different game than boxing.
00:51:37.000
Don't you think that we need a more complex scoring system?
00:51:43.000
You and Eddie Bravo, when we worked together, Eddie Bravo used to do the in-round scoring at the UFC, and it was fucking great, because Eddie had a system.
00:51:56.000
He would sit next to us, and then in between rounds, we would show a highlight or something, and then I'd say, Eddie, what do you think?
00:52:02.000
And Eddie would say, I gave it to this, to this, I think Verdum did that, and blah, blah, blah.
00:52:07.000
And he had a sheet, and on his sheet, he would write kicks on one side, takedowns on the other side, submissions on the other side, and he would write what type of submission, how close it was, and he had all that stuff laid out, and then afterwards, he would give a detailed reason why.
00:52:21.000
I thought that Kane won that round because of this, and he would go over all the values, You've got to write it down.
00:52:32.000
It's hard to tell, but if you could visually see it, I would write it down.
00:52:36.000
If somebody attempts 10 takedowns, and the guy stuffs 10 takedowns, The aggressor is more valuable.
00:52:49.000
He's winning the round if he's attempting more.
00:52:51.000
If the guy's stuffing it, that guy is not giving up too much.
00:52:59.000
What about if I'm a submission artist, I pull half guard, and I'm throwing all these submission attempts, all these submission attempts, and the guy's kind of getting out of them, I'm getting nothing.
00:53:10.000
The judges see the guy on top, he's getting the points.
00:53:17.000
So let's say you and I are fighting, you pull guard, and you're throwing umoplata, triangle, arm bars non-stop for five minutes, non-stop.
00:53:33.000
But let's say in that Ben Saunders fight, let's say that exact same thing happened every round.
00:53:39.000
He ended up taking him down and just assaulted him with those elbows and rubber guard, but he didn't finish him.
00:53:47.000
When it's that clear, the judges will give it to the guy on the bottom.
00:53:51.000
It just needs to be clear with some serious threats from the bottom.
00:53:58.000
I bet it would be 50-50, depending on where you're fighting.
00:54:05.000
Think if the NFL NBA were like that, where it's 50-50.
00:54:12.000
Let's say Ben Saunders didn't get the OMA plot, that the guy survived and the time ran out.
00:54:19.000
You think the judges would have really gave it to the dude on top?
00:54:28.000
A lot of them are just mentally geared towards he's on top, he's winning the round.
00:54:37.000
I'll tell you, some of these judges, man, they look at the replays, and if in the truck they're showing one dude doing all that stuff, they go, okay, they must in the truck think that dude's winning, so they do that.
00:55:01.000
Brendan Schaub has a weird fascination with this fight.
00:55:15.000
Look at her picture for the UFC. You see how thick she is?
00:55:23.000
She might be the most attractive female in the past.
00:55:34.000
No, first of all, Rin grew up doing gymnastics, judo.
00:56:07.000
Oh, you mean the awesome, sexy pictures she takes, Joe?
00:56:14.000
I'm just saying, if it was your mom, I would say it's odd.
00:56:29.000
Let's say Travis Brown wanted to fight you in a rash guard.
00:56:33.000
And the commission, since they're allowing girls to fight in rash guards, they decide, ooh, let's make it...
00:56:44.000
If it was up to you, would you allow Travis Brown to wear a rash guard in your fight?
00:56:58.000
Or would you say whatever he wants, it doesn't matter?
00:57:02.000
I would probably say no, because if he wants to wear it, there's some sort of advantage that he thinks that he's going to have by wearing it.
00:57:08.000
So he must be hella comfortable in this rash guard.
00:57:10.000
If I pull the power move, I'm like, nah, son, take that rash guard off, because I'm not wearing one.
00:57:18.000
But you can't, you would think, look, look, look.
00:57:43.000
Because I think she would be kind of submissive.
00:57:46.000
Because she's like this super strong Asian martial arts killer.
00:57:48.000
What kind of advantage do you think you would have?
00:57:55.000
In the beginning, because let's say you're fighting a guy like Fabricio Verdum, who you're worried about.
00:57:59.000
You're going to get a really good sweat and warm-up on before, so I'm a little more slippery.
00:58:07.000
So you think that it would be an advantage because it would limit your defense.
00:58:30.000
Help John Jones in D.C. What if the guy you were fighting...
00:58:42.000
Hey, what if you were fighting Crow Cop and he wanted to wear a rash guard?
00:58:59.000
It would be a bad example because a kickboxer would want to have a really good guard.
00:59:06.000
But if you're on the bottom, how is that going to help you with the guard?
00:59:11.000
A lot of those guys would just try to get stood up.
00:59:24.000
Are you for or against rash guards in MMA? I honestly don't care that much.
00:59:30.000
But if you wear a rash guard, I'm going to wear wrestling shoes.
00:59:36.000
What if you were going up against a guy like Paul Harris?
00:59:44.000
Whirl them up and put a little cocoa butter on.
00:59:49.000
I want to say the dude's name, but I know a dude who would lay in a mineral bath.
00:59:53.000
He would take mineral oil and lay in the bath the night before, and then he would take a shower and dry off, and then he would make weight, and even though he was not wearing any oil on him, he was so oily from the night before that as soon as he broke a sweat, it would all come through his pores,
01:00:13.000
Do you think you could beat, in an MMA fight, do you think you could beat Gabby Garcia?
01:00:41.000
Rin Nakai, I just feel like she can win this and it's going to be good for the sport.
01:00:46.000
Could you imagine if she became the welterweight or the bantamweight champion?
01:00:51.000
If Rin to Kai, if she's got all these freak pictures of her in her underwear, you know, wearing fucking, like, little fucking bunny rabbit slippers and shit.
01:01:13.000
It doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't know what she's doing.
01:01:53.000
Misha said, oh, you train every day except for one?
01:01:58.000
And, you know, there's another thing that she's coming off of a fight where she wasn't...
01:02:10.000
I mean, she's the only person to ever put Ronda in a compromising position in a fight.
01:02:20.000
She does that hip toss where she grabs a hold of the headlock.
01:02:23.000
And she gives up the back all the time with that.
01:02:26.000
It's because she wasn't trained with a cage, so she wasn't used to it and got in a weird position.
01:02:33.000
She feels like it doesn't matter if they get her neck or whatever.
01:02:37.000
That girl has such incredible laser beam focus towards victory.
01:03:01.000
Well, Nakai's very thick, but it doesn't seem to be working out.
01:03:28.000
But I'm telling you, dude, weird things happen when people are durable.
01:03:34.000
I'm not saying she's going to win the fight, but weird shifts can happen.
01:03:41.000
Rinna Kai's being like, holy shit, I'm in the UFC. That's what she's thinking right now.
01:03:46.000
Oh shit, I'm in the UFC. By the way, this is one of the best versions of Misha we've ever seen, if not the best.
01:03:52.000
You don't think it's the opponent she's facing?
01:04:22.000
He was on a motorcycle, and the car literally hit his leg.
01:04:43.000
Well, without a doubt, one of the best submission artists.
01:05:02.000
I'm telling you, because she's attractive, she speaks well, and she has some skills.
01:05:12.000
What does she do with a girl like Rhonda out there?
01:05:43.000
Why do you watch the TV on the radio at the same time?
01:05:47.000
Hey, how do you get the sound of the stereo but still watching the TV? He's telling them how to work his fucking home system!
01:05:58.000
But nobody, I'm telling you, man, they're not good friends.
01:06:05.000
No, I'm just saying shake and bake, but they hate each other.
01:06:07.000
Yeah, but be in second place to someone as ruthless as Ronda.
01:06:10.000
Like, when they were doing The Ultimate Fighter together, and they were doing that thing where they were climbing the wall, and Ronda wins, and she goes, fuck you, bitch.
01:06:28.000
I don't hate anyone in the UFC. I don't hate anyone.
01:06:32.000
Ronda literally hates Misha Tater, hates a few people.
01:06:43.000
And you don't want to be Misha Tate receiving on the end.
01:06:46.000
Not only do you need to match her skill set, which is good fucking luck, but you need to be able to match that intensity, man.
01:06:55.000
I'll tell you who's really fucked is this Ren Nakai, okay?
01:07:01.000
This girl's over here attempting this half-ass double leg.
01:07:28.000
She doesn't have what it takes to take her down.
01:07:46.000
The knuckle deep meter hits red hot Friday nights.
01:07:51.000
Dude, can you imagine lube made from real butt oil?
01:07:54.000
Well, if a guy has oil, does a gal have oil as well?
01:08:11.000
Let's not do this, because this is bad for the sport.
01:08:22.000
We've been drinking, and we're not responsible for our words.
01:08:51.000
You know, I'll make light of it, like, oh, that is not fun.
01:08:55.000
You know, I'll say something like that, but I'm not going to say that if it's a girl.
01:09:14.000
This little fire hydrant just keeps on keeping on.
01:10:07.000
Yeah, but now she's got Misha on top for dropping bows.
01:10:37.000
The more she can slow Misha down on her feet, the more she turns into a grappling match.
01:10:54.000
I got a text from Dana saying that in the fight that we were talking shit during the whole fight, the referee grabbed the guy's glove I don't know what the situation was, because we were just laughing and having too much fun.
01:11:12.000
And he texted me, and he's like, I'm sure that if I saw it, I would have called it.
01:11:18.000
But I told him in the text message, I go, dude, we didn't even see it.
01:11:29.000
We're barely paying attention to amazing fights.
01:11:41.000
We were doing this video breakdown of Brian Carraway the other day, and it's funny, Brian Carraway on his resume, like the fighter's resume they gave me, fought in Strikeforce, fought in Elite XC,
01:12:33.000
She went for a tank down and Nikai got her back.
01:12:55.000
Like a lot of guys are doing an MMA where the arm's trapped inside the legs.
01:13:07.000
It's totally stretched out and then the guillotine goes on over it.
01:13:12.000
A lot of guys have been doing it where they're getting the arm completely pinned up to the side.
01:13:25.000
You guys, have you seen Brian Cowen's wheel kick?
01:14:18.000
Okay, if you could choose to be on a Tropic Island with one of them for a year...
01:14:29.000
You would have a whole family by the time the rescue party came.
01:14:41.000
Well, let's admire them for their skill, gentlemen.
01:14:44.000
No, that's why it's attractive, because their skills are ridiculous.
01:14:56.000
That whole combo, that take down to the back, that was really smooth.
01:15:00.000
How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl?
01:15:04.000
How much more difficult is it for a beautiful girl to fight?
01:15:09.000
I met this girl the other day who said she wants to get into fighting.
01:15:27.000
Vanderlei Silva is also a mixed martial arts fighter.
01:15:31.000
Now, I've been a fan of Vanderlei Silva from the golden days.
01:15:35.000
His face has changed so much from impacts and scar tissue and damage.
01:15:41.000
We remember when he fought Dan Henderson, he was actually a handsome guy.
01:15:46.000
He had this one look and then over the years of just getting smashed Smashed.
01:15:54.000
And then he had to get an operation to open his nose passage up.
01:16:04.000
Now, a girl like Misha Tate, that was my point, she is in the same sport as them.
01:16:18.000
When she fought Katzengano, Katzengano stopped her.
01:16:23.000
But on average, Wanderlei Silva's going against Crow Cop.
01:16:39.000
Let's think of a big scar that happened in MMA. Okay, like Joe Lozon.
01:16:47.000
I believe it was a knee or a kick from one of his fights.
01:16:51.000
They take a piece of metal and it's all about breaking up the scar tissue.
01:16:57.000
It's like a high-tech form of that rolfing stuff.
01:17:09.000
You're saying a girl like Ronda Rouse or Mishita who has a really pretty face.
01:17:13.000
They could get a giant fucking gash across their face.
01:17:17.000
We haven't seen that yet, but how weird is it going to be when there's a chick that has...
01:17:22.000
Jean-Jacques has that cut from fighting Frank Trigg.
01:17:34.000
If he has a scar, it doesn't hurt the way he looks.
01:17:39.000
Yeah, a girl with a four-inch scar across her face.
01:17:41.000
Hey, scarlet leather, you know what I'm saying?
01:17:56.000
Does that count as a point when she takes her down with that and stands her up?
01:17:59.000
If Gina Carano had a Tony Montana scar, it wouldn't matter.
01:18:04.000
But I'm saying that that should be scored, right?
01:18:11.000
So if you take somebody down, somebody stands right up, it's kind of neutral, right?
01:18:30.000
I like the Ultimate Fighter, how they have two rounds and a third.
01:18:40.000
I think that's a good idea because it eliminates...
01:18:45.000
Those fights where you have three rounds and the first two were kind of close, but the judges gave it to the same dude.
01:18:52.000
And then the third round, the other guy ends up beating his ass and he still loses.
01:18:56.000
You know what was weird, though, in the tough house when I was on it?
01:18:58.000
When you go two rounds, I'm like, you wouldn't know.
01:19:00.000
You go back to corner, I'm like, we're going to third!
01:19:11.000
If round one went by and it was like uneventful, could have went either way, I would just not even score that round.
01:19:20.000
If we had another round like that, I would give them one apiece.
01:20:00.000
Because while the fights are going on, everyone's dead quiet.
01:20:06.000
She needs to go to wildcard and work on her striking.
01:20:15.000
Look, it's not my favorite sexy accent, but goddamn Japanese is pretty hot.
01:20:39.000
Although that modern family chick, that Cuban chick.
01:21:03.000
Maybe he's rich as shit and she's a freaking...
01:21:05.000
Maybe he's got a dick like Donald Cerrone's arm.
01:21:09.000
It's a big Just like a fucking strong 155 pounder.
01:21:20.000
Strong, lean, 155 pounder who throws hard knuckles.
01:21:30.000
He pulls it out like he's a fucking fight in a fire.
01:21:46.000
One of those fish that can crawl out of a lake and walk for a mile.
01:21:53.000
It's got gills where the cock flares out in the mushroom head.
01:22:10.000
Remember when the alien pulls his tongue out and everything drips?
01:22:23.000
There's got to be something like that already, right?
01:22:28.000
Amir Sadala, if I'm not incorrect, he has been out for a long time.
01:22:38.000
Wow, he was a really good fighter, and then he fought Ludwig, and Ludwig kind of picked him apart, and that was a big loss.
01:22:48.000
Because he was really becoming a very good striker.
01:22:56.000
There's certain guys when they begin their career and they face a guy where they can't do anything and they never come back from it.
01:23:05.000
He had lost to wrestlers before he came back stronger, but Dwayne Ludwig, when he's on, was one of the most technical, most proficient, and most educated strikers in MMA. Ever.
01:23:16.000
He's so educated, which is why he's such a good trainer.
01:23:22.000
The reason why he's such a good trainer is because he's so educated in all tactics, all movement.
01:23:30.000
When we were working out with him, man, I saw him correcting all these little things with you, and all I could think of is, God damn, if Schaub could work with this guy every day, if you could work with Dwayne every day, it would change your game a lot.
01:23:43.000
You're a sponge, and when you're with that guy and he's showing you stuff, and he's a freak.
01:23:49.000
He's trying to just fill you up, and you're like, come on, show me what you got.
01:23:52.000
And you guys, that was a fun workout session to watch, man.
01:24:13.000
It finally caught up to him when he got to the UFC. And Dwayne's a guy where if he came in now...
01:24:18.000
You're talking superstar with his skill set and his work ethic.
01:24:23.000
It's just he was a little too late, you know what I'm saying?
01:24:25.000
Obviously, coaching's worked out for him with Tito Dillshaw.
01:24:29.000
I'm just saying, you fast forward and start Dwayne 10 years later, he's a superstar.
01:24:40.000
It's his intelligence and his knowledge and his drive and his focus.
01:24:44.000
Listen, when we'd come to the gym and they were sparring, Dwayne would be the first one in the cage.
01:24:49.000
Me and Shane would look at each other and be like, I ain't going with him, you go.
01:24:56.000
He would walk through everything and keep going.
01:25:01.000
With heavyweights, with guys in size, it's crazy.
01:25:03.000
And you talk to us, like, you better not, don't take me down, don't be a bitch and take me down.
01:25:07.000
And I'd be like, okay, better not take me down.
01:25:13.000
What do you think about, are you practicing turning sidekicks or wheel kicks?
01:25:21.000
Well, he comes out with the Sopranos music, Brian.
01:25:38.000
I'm telling you, this December 6th fight, I'm telling you.
01:25:45.000
The Mally guys I'm bringing in to mimic Travis Brown.
01:25:51.000
We're working on dealing with that front side kick or the front snap kick he does?
01:26:04.000
He just announced he's doing the whole camp in Glendale at Ronda's camp.
01:26:08.000
Well, look, he still learned a lot from Winkle John.
01:26:13.000
Jesus Christ, how jacked does Akiyama look at 170?
01:26:20.000
He's 11. He's 11. We've got to make a new meter.
01:26:23.000
He certainly is an 11. He makes GSP look like a little pudgy.
01:26:45.000
Greatest welterweight of all time is also good at playing one of the greatest fighters of all time.
01:26:59.000
When you practice singing, your body has to be in very good shape.
01:27:04.000
I think he's only had a couple of fights at 170. If not, this might be his debut at 170. What's he usually fight at?
01:27:29.000
He's a famous singer, and he's a famous Japanese MMA fighter.
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Do you think he's the married, I'm gonna be faithful celebrity, or do you think he's just running shit?
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I think he's running vicious, vicious trains on Japanese women.
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They do some They do some weird shit where they, like, shit on each other.
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You mean when they wrap their heads in saran wrap and they breathe out of smalls?
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This might be the shoutiest podcast ever of all shouty podcasts.
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It's 2am and we're lit up like Christmas trees in here.
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But when you do wrap your face in saran wrap...
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Dude, I'm going to start bowing before my fights.
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They said, oh, Amir Sadal, he took two years off.
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But the dime piece is taking some time off, too.
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What's Amir Sadal been doing for a living these days?
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Dwayne was just a step ahead of him in that fight.
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I feel like Akiyama's going to have some power.
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He won some fights in the UFC in his Ultimate Fighter.
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Well, there's some Asians that cross into that, like, darker realm of skin.
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Or maybe he's just straight Japanese and just fucking goes to the tanning salon.
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He thought maybe he was going to get his back took.
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Some guys like to hold this position too, right?
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Randy Couture said they're not comfortable in the side control.
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Most guys who are heavy top grapplers stay in half guard.
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As well, that's the only thing that matters in this fight.
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How about the gold shorts to go with the gold skin?
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Do you remember when Sakurabi used to go into the cage with a shirt that just said water?
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Brian got, and I think it was Chinese, he thought he was getting Brian tattooed on his arm, and it says waterfall.
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He wanted his name tattooed on his arm, and the dude fucked it up.
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You know, those judo guys are so goddamn strong.
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When he gets onto the scale, he walks onto the stage where the scale is.
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They're doing the technique in a way that works.
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Whenever you throw that kick, it's never bouncing off.
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There's a lot of steps to the spinning back kick or turning side kick.
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We always called it the turning side kick in the Taekwondo schools.
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But when I started doing kickboxing, they would say, show them that spinning back kick.
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So I would start calling it the spinning back kick because I figured that was the karate guys.
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The knee comes up high and there's an extension.
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There's the back kick version, how Chuck used to throw it, with the toes down and the heel up.
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It's all a matter of reps and, most importantly...
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All the ones he throws, if they land perfectly, very hard to survive.
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If you have a video of hitting somebody with one, that video from that Taekwondo tournament, you finally have something that's online.
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At the end of it, it should have been so much force going forward that his right leg was forward.
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And if you throw a front kick, front kick is a perfect example, because it's a pretty easy technique to master.
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You pick the knee up, it's very normal mechanics, but when you throw a front kick, you almost always go forward with the kick.
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You very rarely throw a front kick and then pull it all the way back behind you.
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Because to do the front kick and put weight into it, you're going to naturally step forward.
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Well, you should do the same thing with a turning side kick.
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It's just people, they just haven't been taught right.
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There's the one thing that drives me nuts at all martial arts techniques.
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It is that one technique, the spinning back kick or the turning side kick.
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It's the one that drives me nuts because I know the potential of it.
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And then I've shown it to people and they go, I didn't even know this.
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It's just a matter of doing the technique correctly.
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When that guy throws it, that motherfucker extends.
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Because he'll throw that shit only like once or twice in a fight.
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Wouldn't you say you and him have similar builds for that kick though?
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No, because my friend Larry Jones had a better turning sidekick than me.
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Larry was like 6'3", 6'4", somewhere around then.
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And he fought at heavyweight in Taekwondo tournaments.
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Larry, I was always short, but Larry was always, he had these ridiculous legs.
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And he would throw this front leg sidekick like you couldn't fuck with it.
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The reason I developed my front leg sidekick was because of my friend Larry.
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There was like three guys that had these vicious front leg sidekicks.
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You see guys who've been doing it the whole life by talking to other guys that can break your insides, man.
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As you come in, they'll time it and use your body.
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Akiyama keeps getting hit with this head kick, man.
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My friend Leroy Rodriguez, he had kicks, front leg kicks, that were so fucking fast, when people would spar him, like when he was in his prime, he was like one of J. Kim's top black belts.
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This dude, him and Larry Jones, this other dude, his name was Major Battle.
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You walk into the gym, don't fuck with Larry Leroy Major Battle.
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Meanwhile, three of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet.
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But if you saw those guys throw front leg kicks, it would change your whole idea of what's possible with those things.
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Amir's pretty good at keeping guys off of him, but he's getting tagged.
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But those judo guys are always so good standing up, man.
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Akiyama said, oh, you guys put words on your shorts?
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Check out my dick, it's right between your legs.
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Amaratsu, Amaratsu, the sun god, Amaratsu has chosen me to be his messenger.
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But my point, when I was talking about these kicks, Shaab, you got long ass fucking legs, dude.
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If you ever met my friend Larry, who's like your size, and you saw what that guy can do with his front leg, he would fold bags in half with his front leg side kick.
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He would kickbox guys, and dudes who had never faced a guy that had a front leg like that, they had no idea what to do with him.
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The problem with it, though, is it was all being developed when there was no leg kicks.
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So I think a good Thai guy would just start attacking his legs, and it would limit a lot of the techniques you could pull off.
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But those guys were all above-the-waist kickboxers, and he was fucking them up.
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And all that tells me is that that's a technique that's not being utilized.
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Especially the guys, the Muay Thai guys from Holland.
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Badar Hari, that motherfucker throws wheel kicks.
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It's almost better, if you're going to raise a fighter from the time he's five and on, it's almost better to get him into Taekwondo early, to get him used to the aerials and all the fancy, crazy kicks, and then at 12, get him into Muay Thai.
01:39:38.000
So he'd be learning Muay Thai, but he'll still throw...
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But they're both two different distances, and it's two different techniques.
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So if you had a five-year-old and you had to train him, what do you start him with?
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It's also, you're going to develop the dexterity for those weird moves that are super dangerous when you get really good at them.
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Eddie always equates, oh, look at Sadal, gets out from the back door.
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Well, Eddie always equates it, that's not a bad call either, but Eddie always equates it to rubber guard techniques.
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Because if you teach someone rubber guard techniques, and it's the first time they've tried it, they're like, oh, this shit isn't going to work, I'm not flexible enough.
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Well, that's the same thing if you show someone a wheel kick.
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You tell me the wheel kick's never going to work?
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And you hit that pad and you go, oh shit, I need to know this.
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It forces his opponent to really focus on that and take time away from other shit.
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You've got to be terrified of all of his kicks.
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Barbell has stopped two fucking guys in the UFC with leg kicks.
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John Jones, I would suggest, and I don't know shit because I've never fought in MMA, but I would guess, I would hypothesize, if you want to be a striker, or you want to be a fighter, rather, in the UFC, if you're interested in fighting in the UFC and challenging for the belt one day,
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Do what Jon Jones is doing as far as everything on your feet, including the wrestling and the striking especially.
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Spinning back fists, spinning back elbows, turning side kicks, kung fu kicks to the side.
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Maybe the jump spinning inside crescent kick, we really haven't seen that one.
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Well, you know, there's a spinning crescent kick that's really effective.
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When you're coming in with this side like this, and you're going, we haven't seen that one.
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For me, at least, it didn't work too much this way.
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Like, the inside crescent kick, I gave up on a long time ago.
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What if you hurt a guy standing, and then you finish with that motherfucker?
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Have you ever seen me do a spinning crescent kick?
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It's like you hit like this, with the outside of the foot, like that, you spin around.
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I never did it, but my friend Ed Shorter was really good at it.
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My friend Ed Shorter knocked out guys with that.
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He would throw that more than he would throw the wheel kick.
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I think Jon Jones throws everything except those.
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The last new kick I think was to make a big impact in all of MMA and how everyone trains is that front snap kick and the rear snap kick right to the jaw, right to the chest.
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That's the newest, hottest kick that people are actually spending time trying to master it.
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When before, there was no special time spent for that front snap kick.
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I said, why haven't we seen the front snap kick to the fucking jaw?
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And then your boy, Travis Brown, on Alistair Overeem.
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And that was one of the reasons why I realized how effective and powerful axe kicks were.
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There was this guy, John Lee, who had a really good axe kick, who was a national Taekwondo champion.
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Because we haven't seen a guy who's really good at it.
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There's a guy named Jersey Long that was from Canada.
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And he had a fucking axe kick that was like a rifle shot.
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It would be up and on your jaw before you knew it was happening.
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He would be sparring and he would just step in full split and slam you on the head with that heel.
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My friend that I was telling you how good he is, that's the guy that got knocked out cold by this guy.
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You know, we've seen it in K1 a few times, so it's legit.
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Well, Andy Hoog, Andy Hoog, and Andy Hoog had also a technique we haven't seen, the spinning wheel kick to the leg.
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Where he would get down, squat down, do like a spinning, a breakdancing move, and do a wheel kick to the guy's thigh.
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It's like doing a wheel kick, but almost on your ass.
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What was the greatest crazy movie technique of all time?
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I say it was Rio Chonan submitted Anderson Silva with that fucking flying heel hook.
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Yeah, but in fighting Anderson Silva in an MMA fight, and you're Rio Chonan, you're fighting the guy at Shoot the Box.
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He was at Anderson at the time, though, was he?
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The match before me and Hoyler went the first time in 2003, he went against a guy named Charles Pearson, the match right before me.
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And that guy did the exact same heel hook that Rio Chonan did on Anderson and almost had him.
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Hoyler escaped by the skin of his teeth and then got his back and then choked him.
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Have you spoken of Hoyler since the fight since?
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Eddie Bravo has the weirdest sense of humor, man.
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If he wasn't such a great jiu-jitsu fighter and he wasn't so into musicians...
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Imagine if the UFC said, listen, man, we've been thinking about your commentary.
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We heard you've been doing this fight past thing.
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Well, Bryan Stan's doing these all from now on.
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There's going to be some Francis Carmel dude who knows how to throw a fucking axe kick.
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Isn't that more exciting than it does actually work?
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It's way better that all those kung fu kicks actually work than they don't work.
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Brandon Schaub, could you imagine if you fucking axe kicked Travis Brown in the head?
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Do you imagine how nutty the world would go if you had the first axe kick KO in the UFC? You step in and BAM! How crazy would this be?
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You decide for six months to just really dive into kicks.
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In six months you want to transform yourself into this fucking vicious kicker.
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If you found the right trainer who could teach you that style of kicking, dude, you would be fucking guys up.
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All these things you're doing, what are you building?
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You're building up your core, your whole column, but you're also building up your fucking legs.
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That apple bottom is launching bones at your opponent.
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Like, if there's one bone you wouldn't want to get hit in the fucking face with, it's the shin bone.
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You know, even an elbow, you gotta catch a motherfucker on the point of an elbow, otherwise you're hitting with a forearm smash, and there's a lot of meat involved in the forearm smash.
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When you shin someone to the dome, that's a fucking, that's a weird edged bone, man.
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That fucking comes at you 60 miles an hour on your head.
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Especially from some creepy fuck who really knows how to kick hard.
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Just throwing these laser beam kicks at your head.
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I'm telling you, anybody who doubts me, you just needed to see Pedro Hizzo in his prime.
01:50:03.000
Brian, where'd you get those golden pickles from?
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Real quick, this is the latest I've stayed up in, oh, about 10 years.
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If you were in Hawaii, it would only be 11 p.m.
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If we could all make a choice to bail and go to one place and bring our families and everybody exists, it'd probably be like the Big Island.
01:50:55.000
Just all hang out together, make our own little village.
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What I think we would do is have a good time by the water, be with our families.
01:51:13.000
Eddie Bravo and Brennan Schaub just scared the shit out of each other.
01:51:20.000
Wait, you guys want me to move to Hawaii right now?
01:51:43.000
This dude was telling me that you gotta go there like in March or April to the Big Island.
01:51:47.000
He said that's when the whales, they're either breeding or giving birth.
01:51:50.000
I don't remember which, but he said they're everywhere.
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He said it's almost dangerous to be out in your boat.
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Because you're out in the boat and the whales will breach like 20 yards from you.
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And I would have yelled, help, because their ears are really good.
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If you put my dick next to a blue whale on a scale, it would balance out.
01:52:46.000
Nate lit him up with strikes, then I believe caught him in an arm bar, and Nick caught him with a gogoplata.
01:52:55.000
Nick tested so high for marijuana, they believe he might have been high while he was fighting.
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You know, people were arguing like, oh, you know, the pain that he got when he got hit with those shots, he didn't feel it because he was high on marijuana.
01:53:21.000
I mean, I would imagine it would help your ability to absorb pain.
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When I was sparring, when I was doing kickboxing, I wasn't smoking weed back then.
01:53:33.000
If that was true, everybody would be high-fighting.
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But getting punched in the face hard with a right, I don't think Wee's going to help you with that.
01:53:51.000
People would be sparring that way all the time.
01:53:53.000
Maybe they wouldn't be fighting butt off in the offside.
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A lot of guys don't like to train technique high, though.
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Like when someone's trying to show you like a stutter step and an attack, like sometimes they get a little bit twisted up, but when they can just flow with what they know.
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Once it's in the DNA, that's where the weed comes in.
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When you're high, you work on instincts, you flow, and your instincts just take over.
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But when you're not high, there's glitches here and there because you have too much shit on your mind, you're thinking about stupid shit.
01:54:30.000
I actually came up with some bits when I smoked some weed and drank some wine.
01:54:42.000
You get high and you go on stage and you come up with new shit.
01:54:54.000
When he said he was high making new stuff, I said, was that ten years ago?
01:55:03.000
When was the last time you started doing stand-up?
01:55:08.000
I'm saying if I come down to Irvine on Sunday and I see El Gato, I'm going to choke you out of this day.
01:55:14.000
Dude, first of all, don't kill my friend's confidence.
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Don't bring up the nature of his bits, which will fucking ruin him for the thousands of people that listen to this podcast.
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So my one hour, you'll see completely new stuff.
01:56:12.000
Meanwhile, we gave Calen a hard time for chewing on Mike, and everyone's chewing on Mike.
01:56:18.000
I've been chewing on these pickles like a fucking...
01:56:20.000
His job was giving him the hardest time, and he was chewing right into that fucking Mike.
01:56:51.000
When you chew on a pickle, though, the mic's gonna pick it up.
01:57:04.000
Right now, I could go for some fucking sriracha cashews.
01:57:16.000
I mean, if someone wanted to order pizza, I wouldn't yell at you.
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I don't think pizzas are going to deliver at 2 o'clock in the morning, brother.
01:57:32.000
And the door to your studio is kind of scary looking.
01:57:38.000
Can you imagine you deliver a fucking pizza, you open the door, see that thing?
01:57:46.000
Yeah, we got to stock some snacks on this bitch.
01:58:04.000
It tastes like a beef jerky type bar, but it's easy to chew.
01:58:25.000
I would look and tell you exactly what's in it, but there's no...
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Only 2 grams of fat, 140 calories, 14 grams of protein.
01:58:51.000
And that's how they used to preserve them, I guess.
01:58:57.000
When they used to have to get sea salt, man, they used to have to take salt water from the ocean and boil it down.
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That's a big KO. He has a jiu-jitsu gym, too, in San Diego.
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He's a knockout puncher, but he's like, everything is home runs.
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And it just doesn't seem like he's setting things up in any traditional way.
02:00:16.000
The game's passing by a little bit, let's be honest.
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But is it the game passing by, or is he not as fired up as he was when he was younger?
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He doesn't have the body that he had when he was younger, too.
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If you got balls, you eat those after you eat the pickles.
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Boy, these pickles are not easy to get into, though.
02:01:24.000
You're confusing him with Dan Hardy, because they're both sexy.
02:01:45.000
He's putting a lot of weight behind those punches, too.
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Look, it's really the only thing to really counteract that ground and pound from the horse stance position.
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Because that's the perfect spot for him to avoid submissions and be able to throw punches and stay standing on your feet and squat.
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Because you could reach the face, and right there, there's no submissions.
02:02:31.000
But the only thing you've got to worry about is those up kicks.
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Because you're in a perfect spot for an up kick.
02:02:37.000
So, you would think that most MMA fighters would work on that a little bit, right?
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There's levels, man, because, you know, I still haven't seen anybody throw kicks off their back as hard as hoist, and he is very good.
02:02:57.000
He hit me with an up kick to my knee and to the face.
02:03:01.000
You would think a kickboxer would be the best at them, right?
02:03:08.000
Well, you know who the first guy was to kick really good off of his back?
02:03:12.000
One of the most impressive early day Henzo Gracie against Oleg Tektarov.
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He KO'd him from his back and then stood up and blasted him in the face with a punch and broke his hand.
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Like, Henzo actually practiced up kicks to get really good at him.
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Thought, because I guess they were close, thought it was a waste of time.
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I'm all hyped up on fucking bulletproof coffee and I've ate about 17 hot pickles.
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I'm either gonna shit my pants or get a workout.
02:04:16.000
No, dude, I got kettlebells here and an archery target.
02:04:25.000
Hey, I thought you were gonna make fun of me when we went to your house.
02:04:29.000
When we went to your house and you released those chickens, I was scared of shit around the chickens.
02:04:33.000
I told my brother and my friend, I was like, fuck, man.
02:04:55.000
I want to do it personally, but I think ultimately the best move would be, and I've said this before, the best move would be if, like, friends.
02:05:11.000
If someone could figure out how we could all do something like that.
02:05:18.000
Well, Uriah Faber has his own house, but Chad Mendes lives right next to him.
02:05:25.000
It's all his training camp homies and his friends all live in the same area.
02:05:30.000
So they have, like, this whole area where they're all, like, they go grilling together.
02:05:46.000
If all of our yards boarded each other, and then you fucking grow vegetables together.
02:05:52.000
When I was a kid, when I was a kid, my dad was in this thing, my stepfather was in this, it was like a cooperative thing in school, and they would grow plants together.
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And they would all grow like a bunch of different plants.
02:06:09.000
And I remember going there and thinking, this is what a great idea this is.
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Like some days, like he brought me down there on like a Tuesday.
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And I remember it very clearly because this goat attacked me.
02:06:27.000
And I'm grabbing the goat and I'm freaking out.
02:06:33.000
The female goat started attacking me when I was holding on to the male goat because she decided I was the enemy.
02:06:47.000
What a great idea to have a bunch of vegetables growing right there.
02:06:51.000
And if you do that and you've got chickens, just vegetables and chickens, you've got days of food.
02:06:57.000
I'm down for the chickens and vegetables and all that shit.
02:07:57.000
We were talking about Mark Hunt Bigfoot and the difference between the kind of punishment that Bigfoot was able to take in that fight, which is incredible, and then his last fight with Orlovsky, two shots and he's down.
02:08:08.000
Oh, you're talking about when he's off DR2? Yeah.
02:08:13.000
Or is it just the case of the standard thing of seeing guys just have Daniel Cormier knocked him out?
02:08:23.000
Cain Velasquez fucked him up in his last fight.
02:08:25.000
I'm just saying, man, when you're on TRT and fighting down in Australia, and you're eating right and left hand from Mark Hunt, and then you fight in Brazil off TRT and you get knocked out in one punch, God, it's a good argument, man.
02:08:38.000
I'm not saying it is, but it's a fucking good argument.
02:08:41.000
Kind of, but isn't it also, look, the Hunt fight.
02:08:44.000
Because Arlowski punched me in the face several times, didn't feel shit, you know what I'm saying?
02:08:52.000
Right, but isn't it true, though, that sometimes you get punched in the face and you're just getting punched on the cheek or you're getting punched here?
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You can get one dank across the tip of the chin and the legs just go.
02:09:06.000
Most of the time it's behind the ear or on the side of the head or behind the ear.
02:09:16.000
When DC fought Bigfoot, he tagged him behind the ear.
02:09:19.000
Cain Velasquez got hit behind the ear against JDS. I got hit behind the ear against Big Country.
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Big Country's really good at that looping right hand and lands it.
02:09:35.000
If I was a betting man and you made me pick, I would say Roy is going to land that.
02:09:41.000
He's going to wobble Hunt, then he's going to take him down and TKO him.
02:09:50.000
It was a long time ago when Eddie and I first met Roy.
02:09:57.000
It's crazy because the dude didn't even start striking until 2009. When I interviewed him in the...
02:10:13.000
The only time he's been stopped is Arlovsky stopped him.
02:10:17.000
And that was a ridiculous situation because he had Arlovsky down inside control and they stood him up.
02:10:26.000
But see, he didn't even start striking until 2009. I mean, think of that.
02:10:45.000
Roy is also a smart fighter, so when the going gets rough in this fight and they're trading bombs, Hunt has to keep trading.
02:10:57.000
Roy's going to say, fuck this, abandon ship, emergency break, boom, I'm taking it down, I can win the fight.
02:11:02.000
Hunt just says, nah, I've got to keep throwing.
02:11:06.000
Is he the hardest hitter that you've ever fought?
02:11:17.000
Like we said, playsman, hit me here, hit me here.
02:11:20.000
Then the one I turned on a jab hit me behind the ear, and that was the ending shot.
02:11:27.000
But if you look case by case, Roy has to be the hardest hitter.
02:11:34.000
It's the leverage and the way he throws that right hand, just reckless as shit and all the power.
02:11:43.000
I mean, Junior Dos Santos hit him with everything but the fucking kitchen sink.
02:12:09.000
Or he is just that country motherfucker that you hear about that lives up in the mountain and chops wood with his face and doesn't give a fuck.
02:12:16.000
He can fight 170. There's no one like that, though, is there?
02:12:31.000
260. Is it possible that that beard can absorb punishment?
02:12:45.000
I remember when I trained with him, I was like, guilty.
02:13:10.000
When he sits down, he'll say, Big Brown loves ya.
02:13:14.000
I'll probably even walk out to one of his songs if he's cool.
02:13:25.000
But I'm going to get Houston Alexander on, too.
02:13:37.000
Literally, the whole fight you watch like this.
02:13:43.000
And no one committed because they both have knockout power.
02:13:46.000
How about when Houston Alexander fought Keith Jardine?
02:14:05.000
He's fought some of the best of the best of all time.
02:14:08.000
If you have a tattoo on your neck, do not talk shit to a guy.
02:14:11.000
Man, it looks like they packed out a stadium here, huh?
02:14:17.000
There's a lot of guys in Venice with dirty feet with neck tattoos.
02:14:22.000
I'm just saying, Mark Hunt is the gnarliest tattoo.
02:14:28.000
I'm pretty sure that's his son's name that he had written in kanji on his neck.
02:14:33.000
You know me, I'm always coming up with schemes or something to get a guy to fight me.
02:14:38.000
And with Hunt, we're talking shit back and forth.
02:14:58.000
Well, didn't Bisping just offer that to Luke Rockhold?
02:15:05.000
Yeah, Bisping, he was being really funny about it, too.
02:15:10.000
Saying, since I get paid about five times more, it's much more valuable to me.
02:15:31.000
He went to that weird fight in Denver with Rothwell where they call it the worst heavyweight fight of all time.
02:15:37.000
So you're like, damn, Mark Hunt is not doing well.
02:15:46.000
And if you don't live in Denver, good luck fighting in Denver if you weigh 260 pounds.
02:15:50.000
Listen, if you're not in shape in New Zealand, when you get to Denver, you're also not going to be in shape.
02:15:57.000
If you're not in shape in California, when you fly to Florida, your fat ass still ain't in shape.
02:16:03.000
I used to fly train partners in and they'd be crazy out of shape.
02:16:14.000
How disappointing must that be for professional athletes?
02:16:17.000
Like, they come in professional athletes to work with you.
02:16:19.000
And their shape, like the kind of conditioning they're in.
02:16:26.000
So, don't they say that the best way to do it is to sleep at sea level and train at altitude?
02:16:41.000
Because your body, you get the harder work rate at sea level.
02:16:49.000
But there is a benefit to living and training up there, but it's not as much of a benefit as sleeping up there, but training it's here.
02:16:56.000
See, I used to train at obviously high altitude and live at high altitude.
02:17:02.000
I get better training, my body recovers better.
02:17:19.000
Do you, like, if you were going to fight in Denver, would you go to Denver and prepare?
02:17:25.000
But Joe Silva said he's never going to put heavyweights on a Denver card again.
02:17:34.000
It's hard, man, if you're fucking not from there, man.
02:17:36.000
Real quick, Mark Hunt's 9-8, number 6 in the world.
02:17:43.000
5-10, 264. Hey, real quick, if you're in the NFL and you throw 9 touchdowns, 8 interceptions, you don't have a job.
02:17:51.000
Yeah, but this isn't the NFL. This is Mark Hunt.
02:17:54.000
K-1 Grand Prix champion who knocked out Czech Congo.
02:17:58.000
K1 Grand Prix champion who was the shortest fighter ever.
02:18:07.000
His fight and Stefan Struve's height, it was the most disparity in size ever in a heavyweight fight.
02:18:12.000
And Hunt landed a leaping left hook that destroyed Struve's jaw.
02:18:22.000
Hunt certainly has more weapons, but he's also been in more wars.
02:18:36.000
But Roy arguably has more power in his one weapon.
02:18:45.000
Yeah, but Mark Hunt has been working on his takedown defense.
02:18:49.000
Dude, Mark Hunt's left hook is from fucking outer space.
02:19:02.000
Can you imagine if this is the first fight where we see Roy get stopped?
02:19:21.000
I told my brother on the way down, I said, boy, he's a shooter.
02:19:27.000
You take him down early, it's going to exhaust him.
02:19:30.000
Well, not only that, Hunt is a very skillful striker.
02:19:33.000
He's not going to just stand right in front of you.
02:19:35.000
Like, you see when Roy went to throw that right hand?
02:19:42.000
Wouldn't that be the worst if the fight stops in the eye poke and it's all the way in Japan?
02:19:57.000
Oh yeah, he poked him right in the fucking eye.
02:19:59.000
He said enjoy your victory with one fucking eye.
02:20:19.000
They need to come up with a solution, Big Brown.
02:20:34.000
You have to have the fingers out, man, for grappling.
02:20:48.000
Remember, Hunt's been KO'd before by Melvin Manhoof.
02:20:59.000
Meanwhile, remember that fight with Robbie Lawler?
02:21:16.000
If Hunt's smart and he keeps sliding towards his right after he lands shots, he takes away some of the right hand.
02:21:29.000
I mean, he'll throw a left to get you thinking about it, but that right hand is the bomb diggity.
02:21:39.000
He goes, bop, bop, shakes it, and then big right hand.
02:21:41.000
See, the thing about a striker like Hunt, like, look how slick he is.
02:21:54.000
See, there's a disparity in technical advantages.
02:22:16.000
And at his level, if they go, all this guy has the right hand, he's going to go, oh, cool.
02:22:23.000
But now you're talking about a guy who can stick in there and has better cardio than you.
02:22:32.000
But right now you're just dealing with Mark Hunt.
02:22:34.000
I mean, Mark Hunt was fat, but it doesn't mean he's out of shape.
02:22:36.000
Just because he's 290 pounds, he could have been starting off at 340 and gotten really good shape at 290 and had a cut down at 265. And still be able to kick some fucking ass for three rounds or five rounds.
02:22:51.000
I knew it was five rounds, but I forgot for a second.
02:22:56.000
I don't know if this is true, but if it is true...
02:23:04.000
Someone said that Junior Dos Santos, the Stipe Miocic fight, he requested a three-round fight for the main event.
02:23:16.000
Maybe those two fights with Kane, those fucking horrible five-round wars, man.
02:23:27.000
The other thing that Hunt is good at is rolling with shit.
02:23:36.000
Like when things are coming at him, he rolls away from things.
02:23:40.000
He takes a lot of the power off of those punches when he does that.
02:23:45.000
And for someone who's not used to a guy that's that slick like that, it also makes you very tired because you're decelerating your own punches instead of hitting something.
02:23:57.000
Yeah, missing a punch makes you more tired than actually hitting someone.
02:24:01.000
When you're fighting a guy, that's why Ali would wear guys out so well.
02:24:05.000
Because he would just be standing in front of them and they would just be fucking eating air sandwiches.
02:24:13.000
Just knowing where the punches are coming from.
02:24:29.000
I mean, Roy only hit him with one pretty good leg kick.
02:24:54.000
But it's like, when Roy mixes it up, any time a fighter mixes it up...
02:25:23.000
One of the reasons that led him to be one of the great fighters of all time is that he was so good at being unpredictable, you didn't know if he was going to strike or try to grapple.
02:25:31.000
And guys would be thinking, what's he going to do?
02:25:36.000
I talked to Nate Marquardt about that, who was his main training partner, and he would always say, you didn't know if he was going to shoot a double leg on you.
02:26:36.000
He's hard to take down, and he's got a little bit of jiu-jitsu.
02:27:00.000
A solid 284. A solid 284. That's so ridiculous.
02:27:22.000
And Fedor, yeah, he was fucking amazing in his prime.
02:27:28.000
But he goes, he would have been even better if he lost that body fat.
02:27:39.000
If Fedor or Cain Velasquez both had six packs, they wouldn't have the same cardio.
02:27:44.000
I think you need some of that fat to have some of that cardio.
02:27:54.000
So why would Kane go, wait a second, I have the best card in the game?
02:27:57.000
Let me change my diet and get this six-pack because Dolce thinks I need to be lesser fat.
02:28:01.000
Plus, he's going to alienate a lot of people that love Roy Nelson because Roy Nelson looks like the average American.
02:28:18.000
If you didn't know Roy Nelson was a UFC fighter, and you saw that dude by a swimming pool, and you talked shit to him, what a fucking colossal mistake that would be.
02:28:36.000
That is a bad Mark Beck is a motherfucker, dude.
02:28:45.000
I've never seen Roy Nelson take a shot like that.
02:29:20.000
Mark Hunt is the king of the walkaway KO. He tripped right there.
02:29:41.000
Imagine if he would have fucking high spin the ref.
02:29:43.000
That referee ruined a beautiful walk-off KO. That was crazy.
02:29:47.000
Still a beautiful walk-off KO. Got caught right in the chin.
02:29:50.000
Well, he got caught by one of the best strikers in MMA, period.
02:29:53.000
Hardest hitter, by far the hardest hitter in the division.
02:29:55.000
Seriously, out of all the heavyweight fighters, nobody moves like him with a striker.
02:30:12.000
No, but you know what I'm talking about, right?
02:30:19.000
Kane moves professionally, but he moved like a brother.
02:30:22.000
Well, I think what Samoans, you know, have, one of the things that they like, there's so many guys like David Tua, Mark Hunt, they have incredible ability to generate power.
02:30:35.000
Like David Tua, do you remember David Tua when he was in his primary?
02:30:48.000
Like, who's got a wider Mount Rushmore jaw than Mark Hunt?
02:30:55.000
I think he's like 38 or 39 or something like that.
02:31:05.000
He looks 29. I'll tell you what, he's in his fucking prime.
02:31:15.000
Mark, you've had some huge wins in your career.
02:31:19.000
Is there any heavyweight out there you got your sights set on that you'd like to fight next?
02:31:43.000
Really, really fun guy to hang out with and talk to.
02:31:50.000
You know, what you were saying earlier about him, about his career being...
02:31:55.000
When he first got signed by the UFC, they had his Strikeforce contract.
02:32:05.000
Not that they didn't want to honor it, but they didn't want him to fight.
02:32:14.000
But they didn't think that he was UFC material.
02:32:23.000
They thought he'd lost a few guys, and he said, look, I want to prove it to you.
02:32:29.000
And they give him a second chance, and then, man, on a roll.
02:32:37.000
Well, he lost to McCorkle, and then he lost after that to Junior Dos Santos.
02:32:43.000
Is that the next loss, or was there a loss in between?
02:33:03.000
Damn, I've never seen Roy get taken out like that.
02:33:12.000
Hey, have you guys seen Josh Barnett and Renato Laranja do a scene from Brokeback Mountain?
02:33:24.000
Go Henato Laranja Show, Episode 4, Josh Barnett, Henato Laranja, doing a scene from Brokeback Mountain.
02:33:40.000
But wasn't that fight changed because of the drug thing?
02:33:51.000
He got Bigfoot's money and bonus money for the fight of the night.
02:33:56.000
Before that, he beat Stefan Struve, Chet Congo, Ben Rothwell, and Tuckshire.
02:34:00.000
So McCorkle was the loss, and then he won four in a row, and then he fought Dos Santos, and then he had the war with Bigfoot.
02:34:27.000
Yeah, he hit him like a Kimura, but he couldn't finish it.
02:34:32.000
Those early days, though, he was a pure striker.
02:34:42.000
You know, a lot of people think he was the guy that ruined Vandele.
02:34:49.000
He was fucking everybody up at 203. And went up and fought.
02:34:53.000
And he actually, I believe, if I remember correctly, he was light when he fought Hunt.
02:34:58.000
I think he was only like 199. And he fought Hunt.
02:35:03.000
Like when he fought Krokop, he was super heavy.
02:35:07.000
If I remember correctly, Vanderlei was like 218 and Krokop was 214. Wow.
02:35:14.000
Vanderlei was just a- You said that Krokop was the strongest guy you ever felt, right?
02:35:24.000
Maybe 220. And at that weight, did he feel stronger than you were?
02:35:33.000
You know how some guys you move and they kind of budge?
02:35:41.000
I just think he was like, there was no fat on him.
02:35:44.000
Just like that grown man strength when I fought him, you know?
02:35:47.000
You know, you're talking about a guy who's been kickboxing for so fucking long.
02:35:52.000
I would imagine that a guy who's a really strong kickboxer, like a Hunt, or like a Crow Cop, those guys that develop those monster-ass legs, and they have good balance from throwing kicks, once you teach those guys to take down defense, it becomes very difficult.
02:36:09.000
Because they're dealing with such a ridiculous base.
02:36:15.000
You want to talk about a guy with a ridiculous highlight reel?
02:36:35.000
Do you like sucking the dick of television still?
02:36:51.000
It's actually one of the best things I've ever done.
02:37:36.000
If you're an American, go see fucking Bridesmaids.
02:38:33.000
People get mad at me for fucking spoilers for fights that happened like the day before.
02:38:37.000
I'll say, oh, I just finally got around to watching Blank Fight.
02:38:47.000
You're online, you're reading a Twitter feed of a fucking MMA commentator for the UFC. What did you think was coming your way, stupid?
02:39:00.000
Do you go on MMA Weekly's Twitter feed, too, and go, whoa, spoiler alert!
02:39:05.000
You know what has to hurt people's feelings when I see you talk shit to 120?
02:39:11.000
That's something you and I talked about a long time ago.
02:39:15.000
Remember, sometimes when you call somebody a simple name, I almost cut this guy off.
02:39:21.000
Remember that guy who was this huge guy looking at me.
02:39:24.000
And I pull up next to him, and he goes, you got a fucking problem?
02:39:28.000
And he was this really big, giant guy, fat, really big.
02:39:49.000
If I pulled up to someone and said, hey, man, you got a fucking problem, he goes, you're fat.
02:39:55.000
But it would hurt my feelings if they're like, you're a fucking dummy.
02:40:05.000
I did that to a girl's talking in a show, a heckler.
02:40:21.000
You know, that was a real problem with fucking doing stand-up at that comedy store.
02:40:35.000
Any improv you go to, that never gets out of hand.
02:40:47.000
I was at the lab factory and there was a dude in the front row talking like an asshole.
02:40:52.000
And to the point where I kicked his leg a little bit, I went, hey, you got to shut up in the middle of my set.
02:41:13.000
And Dane literally, literally in the middle of it went like this.
02:41:19.000
Dane goes, you shut the fuck up right fucking now or I will knock you the fuck out.
02:41:26.000
You say one more fucking word, I'm going to knock you out and send you the fuck out of here.
02:41:31.000
Sounds like Dan Cook's been doing some Taibo or some shit.
02:41:39.000
How great would it be if the guy stood up and whooped Dane Cook's ass?
02:41:52.000
You go, you tell a joke, you talk to girl, you speak on phone.
02:42:00.000
He's like, this fucking guy heckled me, I'm Dane Cook.
02:42:04.000
And then we get on TMZ. I have ten guys in the audience uploading it to YouTube.
02:42:28.000
Martin Luther King had a totally different dream.
02:42:41.000
Well, I'm glad you told me this after I told Steve Rinella that I don't want to share a tent with you.
02:42:46.000
Because he asked me, he goes, is it okay if you share a tale with Brian?
02:43:03.000
I have a new mouthpiece since the last time we went hunting.
02:43:09.000
Bro, I think I had sleep apnea because I wake up.
02:43:14.000
But the new one, it's uncomfortable, but it fits great, and it keeps my tongue in place, makes no sound.
02:43:26.000
Dude, it was so vivid, and I was like, I'm straight, man, and I have a boyfriend, and this guy keeps fucking me, and this is bad.
02:43:33.000
And I was like, in my dream, I was like, I'm straight as shit, and this guy's fucking me, and I gotta keep this a secret.
02:43:46.000
He was dead serious when he told me this, and I literally was just looking at him like this.
02:44:05.000
Dude, I was like, and I was like, and the guy had a big back.
02:44:17.000
And I was looking over and I go, I gotta fuck this guy again.
02:44:39.000
This is disturbing how many jokes you have arguing your sexuality.
02:44:45.000
Because a big part of your act is arguing your sexuality.
02:44:48.000
I said he's 50% gay and I don't have an issue with it.
02:44:55.000
He started the podcast and said he was probably 10% gay.
02:44:58.000
By the end of the podcast, he told me he was 84% gay.
02:45:12.000
The first time, we were gone for six days in Montana.
02:45:15.000
The second time, we were gone for five days in Wisconsin.
02:45:44.000
You know who is actually more obsessed with male beauty than Brian Count?
02:46:04.000
Brian, why are you saying that he's attractive to men?
02:46:24.000
I was around his cold, and I had to go perform.
02:46:27.000
I had to perform in San Antonio, and I'm dying.
02:46:37.000
And I got two shows tonight, and you gave me your cold.
02:46:40.000
And this is what I hear on the other end of the phone.
02:47:02.000
Two days later, he said, He kept telling me this for weeks.
02:47:05.000
All I heard from him was, there's a way you never get sick.
02:47:15.000
So four days later, I go, yeah, throat's starting to hurt now, moving down your chest.
02:47:20.000
I said, enjoy that for about another eight days.
02:47:25.000
Well, you would normally, your immune system is so superior to the average male.
02:47:46.000
Even his Brazilian character is a gay Brazilian character.
02:47:53.000
That was one of the greatest impersonations ever.
02:48:02.000
I had a dream that I had a boyfriend, and he was fucking me.
02:48:10.000
I had a dream I had a boyfriend, and he was fucking me.
02:48:12.000
The best part is you go, ah, fold that up, put that in your pocket.
02:48:15.000
The best part is you go, ah, I gotta fuck this guy later.
02:48:26.000
And he fucks you throughout the dream like constantly.
02:48:33.000
I feel like running and sometimes you do run but you're like in slow motion.
02:48:38.000
And then you try to shoot him but the bullet goes really slow.
02:48:40.000
You ever have a gun and you shoot and the gun falls apart and then the bullet's really slow?
02:48:46.000
A better example is like, you know when you see a movie that's really scary and you feel that chill up your spine where you're like, fuck, this is scary.
02:49:08.000
Brian's like, yeah, you have that dream where you're jacking a guy off super slow and it just never ends.
02:49:18.000
Every now and then throwing that you tried to escape when you had the gun.
02:49:30.000
And you're Wherever you guys go, you're in your underwear.
02:49:33.000
Like, wherever you go, you're in your underwear.
02:49:37.000
I hate him, but we had to cuddle to stay alive.
02:49:45.000
I was treating his frostbite while he was fucking me.
02:50:06.000
And you know, we kind of saw it materializing, right?
02:50:12.000
Meanwhile, the only guy in this room who has to actually contemplate fighting that guy is Brett Brown.
02:50:21.000
I'm sure if I beat Travis Brown, he could be next.
02:50:29.000
There's only a couple more minutes to go, but if you had to think of like this Travis Brown situation where he leaves Jackson's and now he's training with Edmund, is that a good thing?
02:50:39.000
Or do you think that that shows any sign of like, you know, sometimes people are in a state of turmoil.
02:50:48.000
They lose a little bit of confidence, and they try to switch things up.
02:50:54.000
Listen, I moved to L.A. and switched things up.
02:50:57.000
Obviously, I know Rhonda very well, and I know that camp pretty well, I would say.
02:51:02.000
And I'm not going to go into detail, but I think it's a great thing for me that he's training there.
02:51:06.000
I'll put it like that, without going into detail.
02:51:12.000
It's a good thing for you or a good thing for him?
02:51:19.000
He would say that, though, even if he didn't even mean it.
02:51:27.000
You think you made a mistake by going to that team?
02:51:47.000
Never trained with Edmund, but you did do some training at Jackson's.
02:51:50.000
Oh, because you might have someone telling you how they're training because you know people have connections.
02:51:57.000
So you know what the training is like at Jackson's.
02:52:04.000
Yeah, Jackson's has training partners for days.
02:52:08.000
Do you think there was any issue with the fact that Overeem came into the camp?
02:52:14.000
Because Travis beat him, we'll never fight him again.
02:52:31.000
But the chance of them fighting again, them doing rematches, are not good unless you're at a very high level.
02:52:38.000
One of the reasons I completely disagree is the depth of the heavyweight division.
02:52:42.000
The depth of the heavyweight division is not that broad.
02:52:49.000
So you think he was just like, fuck it, I'm out of here.
02:52:51.000
But look, because Arlovsky stays and Arlovsky's fighting Overeem, or Arlovsky and Overeem are in the same camp, just because they're both heavyweights, it doesn't mean that Travis Brown agrees with that.
02:53:01.000
So Travis Brown could have been in a situation where he felt like he was one of the top heavyweights in camp, he beat Overeem, then all of a sudden Overeem moves in.
02:53:09.000
And then on top of that, he loses the fight with Verdum.
02:53:12.000
He doesn't like how he felt in that fight, feels like he needs to add some things to his game.
02:53:16.000
And one of the things that he said, he said he didn't know how to fight.
02:53:19.000
He said he knew how to go out there and fuck guys up, but he didn't know how to fight, like the technical aspects of fighting.
02:53:24.000
Which is kind of, you know, it's interesting saying that when he's like, you're dealing with Mike Winklejohn, you know, he's like an outstanding striking coach, like one of the best in the world.
02:53:36.000
So Travis is working with him, and then he goes from that saying that he really didn't know how to fight.
02:53:46.000
She wasn't that good of a striker in the beginning.
02:53:48.000
And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Ronda can...
02:53:51.000
It took her a while, because I was even doubting.
02:53:54.000
I was even thinking, damn, is she ever going to be a serious threat on her feet?
02:54:00.000
And at the rate she's going, another couple years, two or three years, Ronda might just stay standing for a while, longer, you know?
02:54:07.000
That's that Chuck Liddell type thing, you know?
02:54:09.000
If you can't take her down, what the fuck are you going to do if she can knock you out in the feet?
02:54:13.000
When Ronda blasted Sarah McMahon with that knee to the body, that was a big fucking message.
02:54:20.000
Last time we were here, you said you didn't feel that Ronda Cyborg was a good...
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Like, you weren't happy about that potential matchup.
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I just don't think it would be good for the UFC with Cyborg's history with steroids and Ronda being very pretty and being in movies.
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It's not going to be good if she were to lose to Cyborg.
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I don't think as a marketing standpoint and for the future of the UFC, Cyborg as your champ is a good thing.
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Ultimately, she's got to have a shot at the title.
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Carano, they're like, hey, you want to be relevant again?
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You tap out in like a minute or so, and we'll do all this marketing, and then you get out.
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But the fight that most MMA fans want to see from Ronda.
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Mainstream, all the regular girls, they'd be probably behind Ronda because Cyborg's...
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Yeah, everyone would be behind Ronda because Cyborg.
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She had some steroid abuse before and all that stuff.
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But still, that's what makes it an amazing fight is you have a chick who's super yoked, crazy-looking.
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Cyborg is the perfect nickname for her against Ronda, the pretty judo girl.
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I think that is going to be the fight of the millennium.
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As far as women's MMA, that is probably the biggest money fight right there.
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They see Cyborg and they're like, oh, I don't want to see this.
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Not only do I think it's sellable, I think if she keeps winning, it's a must-have fight.
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I mean, I don't know if it's ever going to take place, but if Cyborg, if you go back and watch the fucking video of her beating up Gina Carano, beating up a lot of other women.
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When she fought Gina, you're like, what are we doing?
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You think that inspires other little girls when they see Bully Beatdown style?
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If you're looking at it as a promoter's point of view, yes.
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But as far as the fans go, I think Cyborg is going to be the biggest MMA fight of all time.
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