The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 3, 2016

00:00:00.000 Absolutely not.

00:00:01.000 Never watched it.

00:00:01.000 Wow.

00:00:02.000 Does anybody know it?

00:00:03.000 Just let me know.

00:00:04.000 We're live?

00:00:05.000 We're live.

00:00:06.000 We're actually live.

00:00:07.000 We're on the air right now.

00:00:09.000 Eddie Bravo is here.

00:00:11.000 Eddie Bravo.

00:00:13.000 Eddie Bravo.

00:00:13.000 Hello.

00:00:14.000 Brian motherfucking Colin. 0.99

00:00:16.000 Yes, I am. 0.99

00:00:17.000 And Brendan Schaub is perfect. 1.00

00:00:19.000 I fucked up. 0.99

00:00:20.000 I put too much stevia in the coffee, though. 0.99

00:00:21.000 Oh, yeah.

00:00:22.000 That stevia is strong.

00:00:24.000 You know what we could do?

00:00:24.000 You just take this one.

00:00:26.000 And I trust your spit.

00:00:28.000 I hope you don't have herpes and just go back and forth with mine because there's none in there. 0.96

00:00:31.000 There you go.

00:00:32.000 And then we'll make a concoction.

00:00:34.000 Except for the both of us.

00:00:35.000 Split it up, bro.

00:00:36.000 Split it up.

00:00:37.000 A concoction.

00:00:38.000 Just do it if you're a scientist.

00:00:40.000 You can snort stevia.

00:00:41.000 Yeah, and remember Diego Sanchez got really into that for a while?

00:00:45.000 What?

00:00:46.000 With Dan Quinn, right?

00:00:47.000 Yeah, Diego Sanchez got really into Dan Quinn's stevia thing, like he was going to melt fat with stevia and cure cancer and go to the moon.

00:00:53.000 Yeah, there's a guy out there, his name is Dan Quinn, who believes that stevia can change the world.

00:00:59.000 Tell me how that big brown stevia is.

00:01:01.000 Well, good for him.

00:01:03.000 What did he say that you could win?

00:01:05.000 Tastes like a chocolatey man kiss.

00:01:06.000 Oh yeah.

00:01:07.000 Alright.

00:01:07.000 That's what I'm going for.

00:01:09.000 Tastes like a chocolatey man kiss.

00:01:12.000 If you're listening to this podcast, we're watching the fights live from Germany.

00:01:15.000 They play at noon in LA. So we all got out of our comfy beds and beautiful wives' arms and embraces and came here to watch dudes fight.

00:01:24.000 We're not going to be watching the fights.

00:01:26.000 If you want to know what happened, we don't know.

00:01:28.000 We'll be talking about subjects that belong in a 14-year-old's treehouse.

00:01:33.000 And that's essentially what we talk about.

00:01:35.000 And the other thing about muscles, the grips.

00:01:37.000 We might eventually get to some of these fights.

00:01:40.000 I want to talk about Aliyah Latifi and Ryan Bader when that fight happens.

00:01:44.000 Tough fight.

00:01:45.000 I don't like that fight for Bader. 1.00

00:01:46.000 That dude's scary as fuck. 1.00

00:01:49.000 Latife can bomb. 1.00

00:01:50.000 Yeah, he can throw some punches. 0.97

00:01:52.000 He's a tank.

00:01:53.000 Bader's been known to eat a couple.

00:01:55.000 It does nothing for Bader either.

00:01:57.000 Yeah, but Bader's fought well against certain guys that are like powerful, scary guys. 0.97

00:02:01.000 He just really fucked up against Rumble. 0.86

00:02:03.000 So you're looking at that. 1.00

00:02:04.000 He shit the bed against Rumble. 0.98

00:02:05.000 He just made a giant error. 0.99

00:02:06.000 I don't blame him either.

00:02:07.000 Yeah, you can't blame him.

00:02:08.000 You see what Rumble just did to Glover?

00:02:10.000 That low, like, weird...

00:02:12.000 He tried to ankle-pick and then Rumble just beat his brains in it.

00:02:16.000 I think he just took a chance, you know, at something weird.

00:02:19.000 Like, hoping maybe it would work out.

00:02:21.000 Can't do that at that level.

00:02:22.000 I think he also maybe, like, had a moment, you know, in there. 1.00

00:02:25.000 Oh, shit moment. 0.99

00:02:26.000 That's Anthony Rumble Johnson. 1.00

00:02:28.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:02:28.000 Yeah, that's not James Toney.

00:02:29.000 Don't do the same game plan Randy Couture had against James Toney.

00:02:32.000 Exactly!

00:02:32.000 That was exactly what he did.

00:02:33.000 Because Anthony Johnson went, huh?

00:02:35.000 Punched him right in the face.

00:02:36.000 Not only that, he controlled him on the ground until he punched him in the face and eventually got him flattened out on his stomach.

00:02:42.000 It might be the worst place in the world to be.

00:02:46.000 Flattened out on your stomach underneath Rumble Johnson.

00:02:48.000 It's terrible.

00:02:50.000 There is a...

00:02:51.000 Probably that is the worst place.

00:02:53.000 It's right next to that dude who got his arm trapped in the rock and had to saw it off.

00:02:57.000 Yeah.

00:02:58.000 And also, in a swamp full of crocodiles.

00:03:01.000 That's worse.

00:03:02.000 That guy.

00:03:03.000 Or standing right in front of him like Glover.

00:03:05.000 Oh, God.

00:03:06.000 Well, Glover just tried to put that pressure on him.

00:03:09.000 Hey, man!

00:03:10.000 Dude, you can't walk forward.

00:03:11.000 Did you see an uppercut?

00:03:14.000 Do you remember that white supremacist where they had his brother in jail, and in protest, he videotaped himself sawing his own hand off?

00:03:27.000 What?

00:03:27.000 For real?

00:03:27.000 Yep, he had a camera on and he goes, I want to show you guys something, essentially basically showing them that they had no control of him, that his mind was stronger than theirs.

00:03:37.000 And just cut his own hand off.

00:03:38.000 Would you guys do that for me? 0.81

00:03:40.000 Jamie, pull that up.

00:03:41.000 I need to see this.

00:03:43.000 My brother would do that for me, I feel like.

00:03:46.000 Let's talk off the air.

00:03:48.000 I wouldn't want him to.

00:03:50.000 This is Marcin Held and Taehyungbang.

00:03:54.000 Taehung Bang.

00:03:54.000 He is from Korea?

00:03:55.000 He's a Korean cowboy.

00:03:57.000 He's a Korean cowboy.

00:03:59.000 You said Marcin Held?

00:04:00.000 A lot of cowboys in Korea.

00:04:01.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

00:04:02.000 Nick Hine.

00:04:02.000 You got me all excited.

00:04:03.000 You know what?

00:04:03.000 Marcin Held just got signed.

00:04:05.000 I was actually going to bring that up.

00:04:07.000 He just got signed over from Bellator.

00:04:09.000 Very hesitant here, ladies and gentlemen.

00:04:11.000 He's a really good footlock guy, huh?

00:04:12.000 Yeah.

00:04:13.000 Good leg locks.

00:04:14.000 One of them rare leg lockers in MMA. Yeah.

00:04:16.000 I don't know why.

00:04:17.000 I confuse all white people. 0.94

00:04:18.000 I think all white people look the same. 0.97

00:04:20.000 Me too, especially if they're athletes.

00:04:21.000 I'm super racist when it comes to white people. 0.98

00:04:23.000 To the whites. 0.99

00:04:24.000 To the whites. 0.98

00:04:25.000 White people from other countries where they talk weird. 1.00

00:04:28.000 All the same.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, that can never be racist.

00:04:31.000 White people look the same. 1.00

00:04:32.000 No one cares either. 0.99

00:04:34.000 But any other race, it's very trouble. 1.00

00:04:36.000 Any other race. 0.98

00:04:37.000 Even Mexicans. 1.00

00:04:39.000 A black person can say white people all look the same to me on TV and nobody gives a shit. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Not at all. 1.00

00:04:44.000 Exactly. 1.00

00:04:46.000 You'd have to be really, really funny, and it'd have to be a really obvious joke for you to use any other race, especially if you were a white guy.

00:04:56.000 Sam Tripoli has that joke where he'll be like, I lost Bobby Lee at the Korean Day Parade.

00:05:04.000 You ever lose a Korean in a Korean Parade? 0.54

00:05:06.000 It's like looking for a needle in a needle stack.

00:05:09.000 Come on, that's funny.

00:05:11.000 It is funny and it is true, too.

00:05:14.000 Sir, I'm not going to say it's true, but I am saying it's funny.

00:05:17.000 There's certain races that share so many similarities as far as their mannerisms or their features and stuff.

00:05:25.000 I mean, there's so much variety in America, right?

00:05:29.000 Because we come from so many different parts of the world.

00:05:31.000 And if you thought of us as a country, which, you know, we are a country, but we're not a country like, say if you wanted to go and meet some Colombians.

00:05:39.000 You were in Colombia.

00:05:40.000 Most of them are going to look like Colombians. 1.00

00:05:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:05:42.000 They have a very distinct look to them.

00:05:43.000 Especially the women. 1.00

00:05:44.000 Yeah, baby.

00:05:46.000 Well, China, China very much like China.

00:05:48.000 Some of the best.

00:05:49.000 I think in China, to have that many people speaking Mandarin, which had to do, I think, with the Yangtze and the Yellow River, because they could trade and, you know, share ideas...

00:05:57.000 And so, plus I think they were pretty isolated, so you're right.

00:06:01.000 There wasn't as much, you know, immigration in the United States. 0.98

00:06:05.000 I mean, everybody's fucking everybody. 0.61

00:06:07.000 Well, not only that, it's never been like this before, where there's 300 million people, and we vary so much, and we're more varied now than ever before. 0.98

00:06:14.000 Like they say, what is it like, I think they said 20 more years, and white people are going to be a minority?

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:20.000 It's fascinating.

00:06:21.000 Because the Chinese, or you can say Asian, and Mexicans will be the minority in America, correct? 0.97

00:06:28.000 Well, China's film market is neck and neck with the United States now.

00:06:32.000 Well, they like Expendables 19. They love all that bullshit. 0.99

00:06:36.000 They're making their own movies, and they're building huge movie studios now. 0.99

00:06:38.000 They're also using our old, like, Sylvester Stallone's such a hit now over there.

00:06:42.000 Like, they just found them.

00:06:44.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:06:45.000 Yeah.

00:06:46.000 Yeah, well, it's just, it's interesting, man.

00:06:48.000 It's interesting that this world is sort of, it's in some places, it's not sort of meshing with everything else, but in most places, people are spreading out and sort of like integrating with each other.

00:06:59.000 I remember when I was little, my dad gets so, I was like four or five, and we'd see an Asian person, and I'd say, oh, look at that Chinese guy.

00:07:06.000 You know, something, I'd say something, he's like, he's not, he's Korean. 0.99

00:07:09.000 I'm fucking five, man. 0.99

00:07:11.000 That's what I do. 1.00

00:07:12.000 I can't tell the difference between the eyes, dad.

00:07:14.000 I do.

00:07:14.000 Your dad got mad at you at that when you were five?

00:07:16.000 Even today.

00:07:17.000 Even today.

00:07:18.000 He's from Korea. 1.00

00:07:19.000 Fuck, man. 1.00

00:07:20.000 Well, today, maybe it should make sense. 1.00

00:07:21.000 You should have learned it by now.

00:07:22.000 Maybe.

00:07:23.000 It's tough.

00:07:24.000 I've never been over there.

00:07:25.000 I can tell the difference between a Korean and a Japanese person now.

00:07:29.000 My favorite thing to do is...

00:07:31.000 Pretty close, yeah.

00:07:32.000 I love drawing the distinction and alerting people to the fact that I know the difference.

00:07:36.000 And then I'll give you a little history lesson on it.

00:07:38.000 Yeah, you do.

00:07:39.000 And then I walk away feeling good about myself.

00:07:41.000 Greg Fitzsimmons does this thing in his show where he guesses the Asian.

00:07:45.000 He calls it Guess the Asian.

00:07:46.000 He points at people.

00:07:47.000 God bless him.

00:07:47.000 He's really good at it.

00:07:48.000 I bet.

00:07:48.000 If you can tell the difference...

00:07:51.000 He tells the difference between Filipinos and people from Bali.

00:07:55.000 I think that's easy.

00:07:56.000 There are huge differences, I think.

00:07:57.000 That's a skill, my man.

00:07:58.000 No.

00:07:59.000 It's like an X-Men power.

00:08:00.000 No.

00:08:00.000 If you're in America, it is.

00:08:02.000 You know what's weird is that America's only been around for, like, really a few hundred years from the first settlers, right?

00:08:07.000 First European settlers.

00:08:08.000 1640 or something, yeah.

00:08:09.000 And then before that, just one look, right?

00:08:12.000 Like Native American. 1.00

00:08:13.000 And then in that time, the change of the landscape has been so drastic in just a short amount of time.

00:08:20.000 You think about any other time in the world, any other part of the world, someplace as big as the continental United States just gets transformed over a couple hundred years into just white people, just filling them up, filling it up! 1.00

00:08:33.000 I used to have that bit,

00:08:49.000 remember?

00:08:49.000 There's a brown-skinned dude with dark curly hair throwing rocks and a brown-skinned dude with dark curly hair holding a machine gun.

00:08:57.000 I go, what's going on?

00:08:59.000 How do you guys look exactly like your enemy?

00:09:01.000 I go, this isn't like the Chinese versus the African.

00:09:04.000 I go, this is like a tennis match between the Williams sisters. 0.99

00:09:06.000 I'm like, who the fuck is who? 1.00

00:09:08.000 What's even crazier, what's even crazier, they believe in the same God. 0.99

00:09:10.000 They believe in the same God and basically the Quran says that everything in the Old Testament is true.

00:09:16.000 So even the Quran says that's the first book, then they had a problem with the New Testament, but it's kind of wild.

00:09:21.000 For sure figure it out by now.

00:09:22.000 It's just territory, territory.

00:09:24.000 Well, there's no way you're going to figure it out, because you want to make your parents happy, and they have a set of rules, and you grow up with them, and you start raising your kid that way.

00:09:31.000 And then all those ancient ideas about who those people that you don't know are versus these people next to you that you don't know.

00:09:39.000 Well, these people are on my side of the dirt, and those people are on that side of the dirt. 0.99

00:09:42.000 And we believe a certain type of wacky shit, and they believe a different type of wacky shit. 0.99

00:09:47.000 I mean, they have their problems over there, but we have problems here too. 1.00

00:09:50.000 Have you seen how the Kaepernick situation escalated?

00:09:53.000 Explain that to me.

00:09:54.000 So Kaepernick won't stand for the...

00:09:56.000 Explain who he is.

00:09:57.000 Colin Kaepernick is the starring quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers.

00:10:01.000 He's African American and mixed with something else, so he's lighter skinned, and he was adopted.

00:10:06.000 He was raised by white parents. 0.99

00:10:08.000 And so he was a big-time quarterback, playing like shit lately, but he was a big-time quarterback, refuses to stand for the National Anthem because says his people are oppressed and the cop treatment, stuff like that. 1.00

00:10:20.000 And then a picture came out that he wore them a while ago, these socks with cops as pigs on them. 0.99

00:10:26.000 He wore them to practice a while ago before he made this stance.

00:10:29.000 And so that photo's been brought back out.

00:10:32.000 So now the cops in Santa Clara are saying, we're not working the games anymore.

00:10:37.000 Unless you guys do something about Kaepernick, we're not working the games anymore.

00:10:40.000 So the cops are taking a protest now, which to me is like...

00:10:45.000 It's definitely not the right thing to do.

00:10:47.000 Because he has freedom of speech, right?

00:10:49.000 First Amendment, he can do that, whether you agree with it or not.

00:10:52.000 But the cops, now you guys are sinking to his level.

00:10:55.000 You can't make a decision to not do your job because you don't like a guy's opinion.

00:11:00.000 Cops at work games are off-duty police officers.

00:11:03.000 They're not on duty.

00:11:04.000 Oh, that's a good point.

00:11:05.000 So they're doing it for extra money. 0.99

00:11:06.000 Well, they're just doing it because they enjoy the game and they want to keep the fucking San Francisco 49ers safe. 0.97

00:11:12.000 Well, they're going to exercise their right, and then Colin's going to exercise his right. 0.97

00:11:15.000 Somewhere in the middle, something's got to happen.

00:11:16.000 It's a complete nightmare, though.

00:11:18.000 It's not good.

00:11:19.000 You know, it's not a good...

00:11:21.000 It's not a smart platform for all this.

00:11:23.000 I agree.

00:11:24.000 Because it's all going to get lost in the noise.

00:11:26.000 That's the problem.

00:11:26.000 If he has a real point...

00:11:27.000 If he has a real point about what he doesn't like about the way the United States is going, or the way our country is being led, that's not...

00:11:36.000 It gets a lot of people paying attention, but it's just going to get a lot of hate.

00:11:40.000 You're not changing anything by not standing for the anthem during the National Football League. 0.60

00:11:44.000 The cops are still going to be the cops, and the black people are still going to be oppressed. 0.73

00:11:47.000 You're really not changing much.

00:11:48.000 Well, he's starting the dialogue, he thinks, and when you're young, and you have a strong ego, and you feel like you're in a position of quote-unquote leadership, you feel like you can make a stand.

00:12:00.000 It's a little clumsy.

00:12:01.000 Maybe a little clumsy on his part.

00:12:02.000 But now you have other players starting to do the same thing.

00:12:05.000 Isn't that what he wanted, though?

00:12:05.000 Why would he say all that?

00:12:07.000 He wants this.

00:12:07.000 It's like, mission accomplished.

00:12:09.000 It's working.

00:12:10.000 Because everyone's talking about it.

00:12:11.000 I don't think he realized it was going to be like this, though.

00:12:13.000 Well, I think he kind of, but the big issue is he's just not playing very good football.

00:12:17.000 So now the Niners, if they release him, they're going to get so much flack. 1.00

00:12:21.000 Oh, that's fucking racist. 1.00

00:12:23.000 No, no, no. 1.00

00:12:23.000 He just can't throw a fucking football. 1.00

00:12:24.000 I bet they won't. 1.00

00:12:26.000 I bet they won't.

00:12:26.000 I bet the tougher thing will be him getting picked up by somebody else.

00:12:30.000 Like, what team wants to take on that PR nightmare?

00:12:32.000 True.

00:12:33.000 You know, and you're gonna risk the ire of all the police unions that are working your games, you know, and all the people in your town.

00:12:41.000 They're gonna say, oh, was this what our team's all about?

00:12:44.000 We're about taking this guy in?

00:12:45.000 What if you went to a more African-American market, like Atlanta or Philadelphia?

00:12:50.000 I wonder if most African-Americans...

00:12:52.000 See, when you don't stand for the national anthem, which is the United States versus government or a government policy, those things can be separate.

00:13:02.000 I look at them as separate.

00:13:03.000 He says that though.

00:13:03.000 He says that.

00:13:04.000 He says, so now instead of just sitting on the bench, he takes a knee because he goes, I'm not doing this against the soldiers.

00:13:10.000 I have friends.

00:13:11.000 My uncle was in the military.

00:13:13.000 So now he takes a knee and had a former Navy SEAL next to him and hugged him after.

00:13:17.000 He goes, I'm doing it because the way- You should have made out.

00:13:19.000 Yeah, that'd been dope.

00:13:20.000 He's just trying to make... 1.00

00:13:21.000 He's just gay as shit, too. 1.00

00:13:22.000 This is for gays as well. 1.00

00:13:24.000 Just over the top. 0.57

00:13:25.000 For everybody.

00:13:26.000 He's trying to bring attention to something he feels strongly about.

00:13:29.000 The question is, is it, like you said, the best venue and it's the most effective?

00:13:34.000 It's obviously working, though.

00:13:35.000 We're talking about it.

00:13:36.000 He didn't want to be quiet about it, obviously. 0.99

00:13:38.000 He wanted to be loud about it, and this is loud as fuck. 0.99

00:13:40.000 He even grew a powerful afro. 0.99

00:13:41.000 I think he loves it.

00:13:42.000 Powerful afro.

00:13:43.000 Maybe.

00:13:45.000 It's tough when he's not playing well.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, that's the thing. 0.99

00:13:48.000 You've got to be playing real well to have a fucked up opinion. 0.98

00:13:52.000 Yeah, like if Tom Brady did it, we're like, oh, cool, man, yeah, do your thing. 1.00

00:13:55.000 With him, it's like, fuck! 0.98

00:13:57.000 He's not even the starter, probably, and he's going to be paid $19 million this year, so that might have a little bit to do with him getting cut, too. 1.00

00:14:04.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:14:05.000 His contract and his on-field play is the bigger issue if you're calling.

00:14:09.000 That's a tremendous amount of money.

00:14:11.000 That's a lot of money.

00:14:12.000 He signed a $114 million contract two years ago.

00:14:16.000 Brendan, at a $19 million after agents and taxes, what do you think he sees?

00:14:22.000 I mean, 19 million, that's his guaranteed signing bonus, right?

00:14:24.000 So agents take 10% in the taxes.

00:14:26.000 I mean, he sees a shitload of money.

00:14:29.000 He sees about 10 mil of that.

00:14:31.000 No, no, no, no.

00:14:32.000 Because you've got to figure out, he's probably in a 48% tax bracket.

00:14:36.000 He's probably as a manager, an agent, and a lawyer.

00:14:39.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:39.000 And there's a lot of shit that gets distributed. 1.00

00:14:42.000 But don't get it twisted. 0.99

00:14:44.000 This is just part of the contract. 1.00

00:14:46.000 He's rich as fuck. 1.00

00:14:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:14:48.000 Because this is his third contract or second, Jamie?

00:14:51.000 His second.

00:14:52.000 So before that, he was already making money.

00:14:54.000 Was he better before?

00:14:55.000 Was he a better player before?

00:14:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:14:56.000 He took him to the conference finals and the playoffs.

00:15:00.000 So when did it start going bad for him?

00:15:02.000 From my insiders, who actually, some of them worked for the San Francisco 49ers, they were saying it really went bad for him because he was a really athletic quarterback and no one could really pick up his style of play.

00:15:12.000 And once they figured it out, he was a guy who was on social media all the time and the negativity got to him.

00:15:18.000 So he's a sensitive dude and just all the critiquing from the media and everyone else really got to him.

00:15:24.000 So he's lost weight, he's changed his throwing motion, he doesn't run anymore, he's black power now. 0.98

00:15:30.000 Social media fucked with him? 0.99

00:15:31.000 They're saying just this wave. 0.99

00:15:34.000 He let all the criticism get to him.

00:15:36.000 Really?

00:15:36.000 Yeah.

00:15:37.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:15:38.000 The haters right now are going, what?

00:15:39.000 The trolls are like, yeah! 0.86

00:15:41.000 We got him a hook! 0.99

00:15:42.000 We got him!

00:15:43.000 He still has 19 million dollars, people.

00:15:45.000 Yeah, but if he's losing weight and feeling nervous, they win.

00:15:49.000 100%.

00:15:50.000 Losing weight.

00:15:51.000 How old is he?

00:15:52.000 How old is he?

00:15:53.000 He might be 26. Damn, that's a lot of money. 0.99

00:15:56.000 How old is he, Jamie? 0.99

00:15:57.000 26?

00:15:59.000 That is so much money.

00:16:00.000 First of all, asking a 26-year-old to take a stance about global issues while they're in the middle of a professional athletic career at the highest level, which demands you know as much as anybody. 0.97

00:16:14.000 If you're playing professional football, tell us how much fucking that demands of your day. 0.97

00:16:19.000 Especially as a quarterback. 0.98

00:16:21.000 How much does that demand of your day?

00:16:22.000 Oh man, in season, I mean...

00:16:25.000 I mean, you're talking full-time.

00:16:27.000 I mean, nine to five doesn't count.

00:16:28.000 You're talking about endless hours of studying, practice.

00:16:32.000 You're the leader of the team.

00:16:32.000 Strength and conditioning.

00:16:33.000 No, just conditioning.

00:16:34.000 Plios.

00:16:35.000 Video.

00:16:36.000 Really, they're in the film room more than anyone.

00:16:38.000 Break down tape.

00:16:38.000 And how tired are you all the time after practice?

00:16:41.000 I mean, you're exhausted.

00:16:41.000 Especially a guy like that who, he relies on his athleticism to get the plays done.

00:16:46.000 The NFL doesn't work like that.

00:16:47.000 You have to use your brain.

00:16:48.000 Look at the best quarterbacks in the league.

00:16:50.000 How many plays per team would you say?

00:16:53.000 Because they have a book, right?

00:16:54.000 I mean, you're talking thousands.

00:16:56.000 Thousands of players that they have to know.

00:16:57.000 And he has to know the whole inside and out.

00:16:58.000 So that dude doesn't have time to be studying global issues? 1.00

00:17:01.000 No, that's why he's playing like shit. 0.99

00:17:05.000 It'd be way more powerful if he played well, was a starter, started winning games, and then came out and did this maybe after the season. 1.00

00:17:12.000 Dude, there's no 26-year-old that's built to handle the kind of pressure that comes being that famous and a big football player.

00:17:18.000 And then on top of that, supporting some sort of a global issue, like some sort of a national issue on the United States, like the state of the United States.

00:17:28.000 Are you going to make an official statement?

00:17:29.000 I can't imagine.

00:17:30.000 It's putting a lot on your plate.

00:17:31.000 I shouldn't be making an official statement today, and I'm almost 50. I'm like, not ready yet.

00:17:36.000 I can't imagine what he's dealing with.

00:17:41.000 I'm sure he has support from a lot of people, but a lot of it's negative.

00:17:47.000 Then you've got to get ready for a football game.

00:17:49.000 It's make or break.

00:17:50.000 If you're playing poorly, it's going to get negative real quick from all sides, right?

00:17:55.000 No, I don't think from all sides.

00:17:57.000 I think African-American people are pretty proud of him in a certain aspect.

00:18:02.000 Well, some people are proud of him, too, that feel like things aren't the way they should be in this country, and at least this guy used that platform and took a chance.

00:18:10.000 Correct.

00:18:10.000 But I think you're dead right in that the real problem is you've got to be playing really fucking good to pull something like that off.

00:18:18.000 Like, people don't want to just listen to you if you're ruining play. 0.73

00:18:21.000 And there's going to be so much pressure on him every time he does play.

00:18:24.000 People are going to be psyched if he gets nailed.

00:18:27.000 What's the pressure?

00:18:28.000 I mean, he watches a couple YouTube videos, and there's not something that he's got to study.

00:18:33.000 He wears socks.

00:18:34.000 So what?

00:18:35.000 What is he doing?

00:18:35.000 No, you mean tweet?

00:18:37.000 And then what?

00:18:38.000 He has the entire San Francisco 49ers organization on his back to win games.

00:18:42.000 And if he doesn't perform, he's going to lose his job.

00:18:45.000 Poor him.

00:18:46.000 Yeah.

00:18:47.000 I mean, it's a tough gig.

00:18:49.000 It's a tough gig, man.

00:18:50.000 You don't feel bad about him, Eddie?

00:18:51.000 No.

00:18:53.000 But he's got money. 0.98

00:18:54.000 Because he's black? 1.00

00:18:55.000 Fucker's rich as shit, super famous, and he wants this attention. 1.00

00:18:59.000 Why else would he wear those socks? 1.00

00:19:00.000 If Tom Brady wore those socks, the whole arena would be yelling, fuck the police, right? 1.00

00:19:05.000 For sure, yeah. 1.00

00:19:06.000 Tom Brady's white, though.

00:19:08.000 Exactly.

00:19:08.000 Would they, though?

00:19:09.000 I think they would turn on him.

00:19:10.000 I think they'd turn on Tom Brady.

00:19:11.000 There's no turning on Tom Brady. 1.00

00:19:12.000 That's bullshit. 0.99

00:19:13.000 He can't do anything wrong. 1.00

00:19:15.000 They would turn on him.

00:19:15.000 He can't do anything wrong.

00:19:16.000 Incorrect.

00:19:17.000 New England wouldn't.

00:19:17.000 Incorrect.

00:19:18.000 He could murder someone, and they'd be like, yeah, what can you do with Tom Brady? 0.99

00:19:21.000 Gangster. 0.94

00:19:21.000 Tell us the whole story. 0.94

00:19:23.000 He did murder four people.

00:19:24.000 Well, the guy probably lipped off...

00:19:26.000 Even with Ern Hernandez, the guy who's a straight-up murderer, they were like, I mean, if he gets out, we'll take him.

00:19:32.000 He's such a good player.

00:19:34.000 New England was like, I mean, we wouldn't be mad if he gets...

00:19:36.000 He's such a good player. 0.99

00:19:37.000 They just want to win fucking football games in New England. 1.00

00:19:40.000 God. 1.00

00:19:40.000 That's how good of a player it is. 1.00

00:19:42.000 Throw to the murderer. 0.78

00:19:43.000 You know what? 0.92

00:19:43.000 The Patriots might sue you for saying that. 0.92

00:19:46.000 They'd probably agree with you.

00:19:48.000 No, they're like, yeah, that's how it goes.

00:19:49.000 Trying to win games here.

00:19:51.000 Jesus Christ. 0.91

00:19:52.000 Neil Brennan has a fucking hilarious bit about football that I can't do it without doing it. 0.99

00:19:57.000 You know, I can't give you the premise of it, but he's talking about why football players do fucked up shit in real life. 0.99

00:20:03.000 It is hilarious. 0.99

00:20:04.000 Dude, he's my favorite guest on your podcast.

00:20:06.000 Is he really?

00:20:07.000 By far. 0.99

00:20:07.000 I think he's the most creative fucking... 0.99

00:20:09.000 I've never met him in person, but dude, he's a great guy. 0.98

00:20:13.000 That guy's brilliant.

00:20:14.000 Very, very smart.

00:20:15.000 He's so creative.

00:20:16.000 Get him on the Fighter of the Kid. 0.50

00:20:17.000 Yeah, we will.

00:20:17.000 You guys will love him.

00:20:18.000 He's awesome.

00:20:18.000 God, he's talented.

00:20:19.000 I've been meaning to do that anyway.

00:20:20.000 So talented.

00:20:21.000 The football bit he did last night, I was crying.

00:20:23.000 Really?

00:20:24.000 Crying.

00:20:24.000 I can't do it because it'll give away the bit, but it's very, very funny.

00:20:28.000 Dude, I finally watched The Roast with Jim Ross with Big Boy.

00:20:33.000 What's his name?

00:20:33.000 The big fat guy.

00:20:35.000 Ralphie Mae.

00:20:36.000 Ralphie Mae.

00:20:37.000 Where his feelings got hurt?

00:20:38.000 I heard it was bad.

00:20:39.000 Dude.

00:20:39.000 I can't watch.

00:20:40.000 Dude.

00:20:40.000 I don't want to watch.

00:20:41.000 What happened?

00:20:42.000 I mean, it's a roast battle. 0.99

00:20:44.000 Ralphie's going through a divorce, and these people just fucking... 1.00

00:20:48.000 The fucking hammer in the coffin. 1.00

00:20:51.000 The guy goes, well... 1.00

00:20:54.000 You've lost... 1.00

00:20:54.000 It's so fucked up. 1.00

00:20:56.000 You've lost your wife, your career. 1.00

00:20:58.000 You can't sell tickets.

00:21:00.000 You've lost everything. 1.00

00:21:01.000 The only thing you haven't lost is weight, motherfucker. 1.00

00:21:03.000 And it was like... 1.00

00:21:04.000 I don't like that stuff.

00:21:05.000 It's a roast. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Well, don't fucking watch. 0.99

00:21:08.000 It's a roast, though. 0.99

00:21:09.000 Yeah, don't get involved.

00:21:10.000 Don't get involved.

00:21:11.000 They were roasting Ralphie Mae.

00:21:14.000 It was a Ralphie Mae roast.

00:21:15.000 No, it's like one-on-one roast.

00:21:16.000 Roast battle.

00:21:17.000 Roast battle and roast each other. 0.98

00:21:18.000 You ever see roast battle?

00:21:19.000 It's a hilarious show.

00:21:21.000 Yeah, they have it at the Comedy Store.

00:21:22.000 You gotta come, man.

00:21:23.000 I love it.

00:21:23.000 They do it at the Comedy Store on Tuesday nights, and they do it late at night.

00:21:26.000 And I think it starts at midnight, right?

00:21:28.000 I'm not sure.

00:21:29.000 Isn't it?

00:21:29.000 But your boy Tony Hinchcraft tore it up, too.

00:21:31.000 Yeah.

00:21:32.000 It's just some of the funniest, young, up-and-coming kids.

00:21:35.000 Mm-hmm.

00:21:36.000 And adults, I should say, some of them are, like, for whatever reason, deep in their 30s.

00:21:39.000 There's some old-ass people in there, too. 0.99

00:21:41.000 Yeah, some 50-year-old people that are on Rose Battle.

00:21:43.000 They have great judges, too.

00:21:44.000 Yeah, and they have comics judge it, and then they'll do, like, one, you know, one joke, and the other person will do a joke against them, and they go back and forth, and then the audience decides who got who better.

00:21:55.000 It's so creative.

00:21:56.000 And like, Tony Hinchcliffe, I guess he does a podcast at the Comedy Store on Monday nights or something like that, whatever it is.

00:22:01.000 And he texts me and goes...

00:22:03.000 It's called Kill Tony.

00:22:03.000 Kill Tony, yeah, yeah.

00:22:04.000 He texts me and goes, hey man, when do you come by and do the podcast?

00:22:07.000 And I went, oh, no, do the show. 0.97

00:22:09.000 And I went, I'm down to do like a podcast, but I'm not letting you just roast the shit out of me. 0.98

00:22:14.000 It's too easy. 0.92

00:22:16.000 I don't know how to come back.

00:22:16.000 I'm not good at roasting other people.

00:22:17.000 I'm not good at those comebacks.

00:22:19.000 Also, you want everybody to love you.

00:22:21.000 You don't want to be mean to people.

00:22:22.000 I also don't want to hurt anybody's feelings.

00:22:23.000 It ain't for you, B. It ain't for you. 0.99

00:22:25.000 Tony would eat you alive. 0.73

00:22:27.000 I can't hurt people. 0.92

00:22:28.000 Even if I had a good put down, I couldn't. 0.74

00:22:31.000 Tony would eat you.

00:22:33.000 I don't like hurting people's feelings like a cannibal.

00:22:36.000 Brian Moses, the guy who hosts it, is perfect.

00:22:39.000 He's a hilarious guy.

00:22:41.000 I like Brian, yeah.

00:22:43.000 It's a great show.

00:22:43.000 You know what's tough on that?

00:22:45.000 Because obviously they're going based off each other, volleying back and forth on jokes and roasting each other.

00:22:50.000 But when someone has a horrible, just a great roast, and the other one's not ready, when a roast is bad, it's bad.

00:22:57.000 Like Ralphie Mae was like, that's why your eyes are close together, and the crowd's like...

00:23:03.000 It's just dead silent.

00:23:05.000 I'm like, oh, God. 1.00

00:23:06.000 Fuck. 1.00

00:23:07.000 I heard about it and I couldn't watch it. 1.00

00:23:09.000 It's on the spot.

00:23:09.000 Yeah, I don't want to see somebody get knocked out like that.

00:23:11.000 I don't like that shit. 1.00

00:23:12.000 Is this on Comedy Central? 1.00

00:23:13.000 I'm sure it's on YouTube.

00:23:14.000 But Whoopi Goldberg was a coach, or she was a judge?

00:23:18.000 Man, it was tough.

00:23:20.000 What was tough?

00:23:21.000 Whoopi Goldberg being the judge?

00:23:22.000 Just her commentary and everything.

00:23:24.000 She's just out of the loop, you know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:23:26.000 Yeah, she's out of the fucking loop. 0.99

00:23:28.000 That's like someone with your grandma on the mic. 0.99

00:23:29.000 Yeah, that's 100% what she was doing.

00:23:32.000 It's funny how people can ride something great for a long time.

00:23:35.000 Like her first HBO special was pretty...

00:23:37.000 Was it really great?

00:23:39.000 Yeah, it was really good.

00:23:39.000 I thought it was really, really good.

00:23:41.000 Theatrically, it was excellent. 1.00

00:23:42.000 This motherfucker's in an audition again. 0.99

00:23:46.000 He's in the room right now with the producers. 1.00

00:23:49.000 Brian's trying to get on to some wine last night in Santa Monica with some good friends.

00:23:52.000 You cannot take away from her.

00:23:54.000 Brian's trying to get on The View right now?

00:23:55.000 The two things she did to get herself known on HBO, they were pretty amazing.

00:23:58.000 Whoopi Goldberg?

00:23:59.000 Yeah, you can't take that away from her. 1.00

00:24:00.000 But I will say that she did Ghost, but you can ride that shit for a long time. 1.00

00:24:05.000 I'm blacking out right now. 1.00

00:24:06.000 There's no air in this room.

00:24:08.000 It just sucked it all out.

00:24:10.000 Hey, 20 years ago.

00:24:11.000 It was 20 years ago.

00:24:13.000 Well, she's not like in the comedy scene. 0.77

00:24:16.000 She does the view.

00:24:17.000 She does the view.

00:24:18.000 She's got a look that's very distinctive, and she seems like a very friendly person, and America took her in a long time ago, and she's sort of been in this steady, coasting state ever since then.

00:24:28.000 So when she goes and does something that demands pop, like these things, or when she expresses herself on The View, when she's got an opinion, it's not very succinct.

00:24:37.000 It's not clear and sharp and well-defined.

00:24:41.000 There's a lot of laziness to it.

00:24:45.000 I'm sure she's just a really wealthy woman who is set. 0.83

00:24:51.000 For life. 1.00

00:24:52.000 She doesn't have to worry about shit. 1.00

00:24:53.000 She dresses that way too. 0.99

00:24:54.000 And when she's up there, she's like casual and she's being herself. 1.00

00:24:57.000 Casual as fuck. 1.00

00:24:58.000 She has Crocs on and shit. 1.00

00:24:59.000 In some ways, it's like what you're getting is when you get a person that's like at that level. 0.99

00:25:04.000 She's an Oscar winner.

00:25:05.000 Yeah.

00:25:05.000 She's over it.

00:25:06.000 She's like, what's up?

00:25:07.000 I won't be Goldberg. 0.99

00:25:08.000 I don't have to do shit anymore. 0.99

00:25:09.000 She even brought that up on the show. 0.99

00:25:11.000 She said, I have Oscars.

00:25:15.000 That's what she said on the show.

00:25:16.000 That was her roast, yeah.

00:25:17.000 When someone came at her, when her and Jeselnik were going at it, and she was like, who are you?

00:25:21.000 I have Oscars.

00:25:22.000 That's her thing. 1.00

00:25:23.000 She's like, I have Oscars, honey.

00:25:24.000 That's not funny.

00:25:25.000 You know what happens?

00:25:26.000 Sometimes success can stop a lot of things.

00:25:29.000 Bob Dylan was, and he's produced a lot and been amazing, but they were going through the lyrics that he was writing and stuff when he was younger that made him a legend.

00:25:39.000 He literally went, isn't that something?

00:25:42.000 And they go, what do you mean?

00:25:42.000 He goes, I just don't...

00:25:43.000 That was a different person back then who wrote that stuff.

00:25:46.000 Like, I could never do that again.

00:25:47.000 I could never replicate that again.

00:25:49.000 That magic that made me what I am is gone.

00:25:52.000 So much of it was wanting to be heard so badly.

00:25:54.000 So much of it was, can I even do this?

00:25:56.000 The wonder and the mystery of, who am I? And let me see if this effort can bear fruit.

00:26:01.000 And when you get really wealthy and you get really famous and you become a legend, it's very difficult to replicate that kind of stuff.

00:26:06.000 Like, Ellen Generous, for me, when she was younger and doing stand-up, personally, I loved her stand-up when she was younger.

00:26:11.000 And then I was thinking to myself, you had this great stand-up career, and then you became a talk show host.

00:26:16.000 You make a fortune.

00:26:17.000 She's really good at that, though.

00:26:18.000 But I just could never do that.

00:26:20.000 That would be so boring to me, in comparison.

00:26:23.000 You know the best interview with her?

00:26:24.000 Her and Caitlyn Jenner.

00:26:26.000 Caitlyn Jenner was talking about how she doesn't believe in gay marriage, because I'm more of a traditionalist.

00:26:31.000 So she's sitting there with her frozen face.

00:26:34.000 Why have I always been traditional? 1.00

00:26:36.000 And you're like, what in the fuck are you talking about? 0.99

00:26:39.000 Your face is Botox, you cut, and your jaws, half your jaw is missing. 1.00

00:26:44.000 You're wearing lipstick.

00:26:46.000 That's her up there on the screen.

00:26:48.000 All this craziness, and she's saying that she's not into gay marriage, or she wasn't into gay marriage, she's trying to change my opinion now, but because she's more of a traditionalist.

00:26:57.000 Like, you are a man that thinks they're a woman. 0.65

00:27:00.000 There's nothing further from a traditionalist.

00:27:03.000 That's the Hollywood insanity.

00:27:05.000 But Ellen wrote her on it.

00:27:07.000 She's like, how can someone like you, who's faced so much discrimination, how could you be against gay marriage?

00:27:14.000 And this is my take on this Caitlyn Jenner thing that everybody's always been missing. 0.98

00:27:18.000 You're talking about a nonsense person.

00:27:19.000 You're talking about a male Kardashian. 0.90

00:27:21.000 This is what this is.

00:27:22.000 We're having this national debate, which is an important national debate, because there's a spectrum of gender, and there's some people that get stuck in some weird spots, and to be mean about those people, because they're not a manly man like Brendan Schaub, or a girly girl,

00:27:39.000 like Katy Perry.

00:27:41.000 There's a lot of women and men that fall in these weird places. 1.00

00:27:45.000 But this is the wrong one to pay attention to!

00:27:47.000 This is crazy.

00:27:48.000 I agree 100%.

00:27:49.000 This is, I mean, it's not a bad person, you know?

00:27:52.000 They're not a horrible person.

00:27:53.000 She's Kardashian.

00:27:54.000 Yeah, but this is what we've been dealing with when we're talking about, like...

00:27:59.000 Putting focus on people for no reason whatsoever other than the fact that there's a camera on them.

00:28:03.000 People also get bullied into being super supportive and completely a fanatic on that side.

00:28:09.000 Instead of having an objective, fair, critical point of view, like it's weird or like, I don't know, she's not that impressive.

00:28:16.000 What she did in 1976 was pretty impressive and whenever, but...

00:28:20.000 Dude, it's social media, man.

00:28:22.000 Social media, the pressure and the amount of human beings that you're communicating with, it's off the charts.

00:28:27.000 The numbers are crazy.

00:28:29.000 The numbers that you're interacting with on a daily basis, if you have any sort of a point whatsoever, like this football player dude.

00:28:35.000 If he has any sort of a point that he wants to make, dude, you're dealing with...

00:28:41.000 Literally millions of people throwing their opinions your way and it's a storm and you can't you can't like go outside in the rain and pick the Raindrop that you're gonna communicate with.

00:28:51.000 No you can't.

00:28:52.000 That's essentially what he's doing when it's opinions.

00:28:55.000 Opinions are coming at him like rain.

00:28:57.000 Well, but also look at homegirl. 0.98

00:28:59.000 Who's the comedian from Ghostbusters the black girl?

00:29:01.000 Leslie Jones. 1.00

00:29:02.000 Her shit got so bad people are She exacerbated that. 1.00

00:29:07.000 You think? 1.00

00:29:08.000 She exacerbated by about poorly... 0.98

00:29:10.000 They leaked naked photos, too.

00:29:11.000 No, no, no.

00:29:11.000 That was afterwards.

00:29:12.000 Yeah, I know.

00:29:13.000 Before that.

00:29:13.000 But they went ham on it.

00:29:14.000 I don't know if it's the same people.

00:29:15.000 I mean, obviously, somebody leaked her naked photos. 1.00

00:29:17.000 But they'll leak your naked photos, too, if you leave them on iCloud, stupid. 1.00

00:29:21.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Everyone's naked photos. 1.00

00:29:24.000 You leave your dick on iCloud, that shit's going online. 1.00

00:29:26.000 All my dick pics, I'm pretty proud of. 1.00

00:29:28.000 But she interacted with some of those people. 0.99

00:29:30.000 That's what you can't do.

00:29:31.000 It was poorly thought out.

00:29:34.000 I feel like she's new to it, too, though, right?

00:29:36.000 Yeah, she is new to it. 1.00

00:29:37.000 Dude, it's a motherfucker out there. 1.00

00:29:39.000 Sideways rain, baby. 1.00

00:29:40.000 There's a fucking hurricane out your door. 1.00

00:29:42.000 Go out there and find a raindrop. 1.00

00:29:44.000 But I feel like successful people don't pay attention to most of that bullshit. 1.00

00:29:47.000 Some people do. 0.99

00:29:47.000 Tyron Woodley, apparently, has been paying attention to it. 0.99

00:29:49.000 I've been reading all this shit about Tyron, reading all these haters' tweets. 0.98

00:29:53.000 Why would he do that? 0.99

00:29:54.000 I don't know, man.

00:29:55.000 Maybe someone needs to talk to him.

00:29:57.000 Maybe he doesn't mind. 1.00

00:29:58.000 Maybe he's using it as a psychological exercise, but he's talking about all these people that are being racist to him and talking shit to him. 0.99

00:30:04.000 No, let me get dark, man. 0.99

00:30:04.000 He needs to focus on Wonderboy. 0.99

00:30:06.000 Not only that, when you find out, when they find out that you're paying attention and it freaks you out, like this Kaepernick guy who's losing weight and you fucking can't throw right anymore. 0.92

00:30:16.000 There's too many of them, man. 0.88

00:30:17.000 There's too many people.

00:30:18.000 Especially in negative. 0.99

00:30:20.000 If they can't affect the celebrity in that fashion, they're gonna fucking try, man. 0.98

00:30:24.000 It's natural. 0.99

00:30:25.000 It's as natural as a virus.

00:30:27.000 Being a negative?

00:30:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

00:30:28.000 There's a certain amount of people that they got a fucking shithand in life. 0.99

00:30:33.000 And they are who they are through a series of bad decisions and life circumstances and genetics and all the above. 0.99

00:30:39.000 And they see a guy like Kaepernick that's making... 1.00

00:30:41.000 50 million bucks over the next couple of years, and I fuck him! 1.00

00:30:46.000 Good-looking dude, too. 1.00

00:30:47.000 Has a bit of a nose, but good-looking dude. 0.99

00:30:49.000 And they come home every day, and they run to that computer from their McDonald's job with fucking fry smell all over their body, their hands, and they just start All kinds of rude shit about him. 0.98

00:31:01.000 Although the article we read in Time Magazine had a front page article, and according to that author and his research, a lot of that hate comes from, oh, I don't know, kindergarten teachers, doctors, lawyers, and people, your next door neighbor you would never imagine, but they just have a mean streak. 0.99

00:31:17.000 And they just want to be mean.

00:31:18.000 They said it could come from anyone.

00:31:20.000 Just don't assume the guy's in the basement of his mom's house jacking off.

00:31:23.000 It can literally come from anyone, especially Kaepernick, who's a San Francisco 49er.

00:31:28.000 You might be a Seattle fan.

00:31:29.000 You're like, yeah, I'm going to hate it.

00:31:30.000 I might as well.

00:31:30.000 I'm a doctor in Seattle.

00:31:31.000 Fuck this, dude. 1.00

00:31:32.000 It gives you a free pass if you're from another state. 1.00

00:31:35.000 There's also something about some people, when nobody's looking to do something outrageous, forbidden, that would be totally out of character, it's freeing, right?

00:31:44.000 So they just want to do, like, it's almost like when you go, when you're in a really, in an airplane, you have to be quiet and stuff, and you go to the bathroom, and you're about to pee, and you look in the mirror, and you go, and you just do some weird face, because it's a release. 0.99

00:31:56.000 Yeah, that's you, you fucking weirdo. 1.00

00:31:56.000 That's some weird shit. 1.00

00:31:57.000 Maybe, guys. 0.99

00:31:58.000 I don't know.

00:31:59.000 But no, you're definitely right. 0.97

00:32:00.000 I think people that are buttoned down all day, like doctors and lawyers and people that have to put on a persona all day long, those are the ones who want to hire mistresses and get them to shit on them and smack them in the face and do wacky stuff. 0.99

00:32:12.000 They've done a lot of studies on cultures that produce a lot of shit videos and these really perverse videos. 0.99

00:32:18.000 That's right. 1.00

00:32:18.000 I'm talking about the Japanese. 1.00

00:32:19.000 Well, I'm talking about the Japanese and the Germans who tend to be very disciplined, very authoritarian, and very buttoned down and formal. 0.94

00:32:25.000 Yeah.

00:32:25.000 So, listen, man, when you've got to do that all the time...

00:32:28.000 It's called Pukaki. 0.97

00:32:29.000 I can't watch them.

00:32:30.000 I'll throw up.

00:32:31.000 You want some extreme... 0.72

00:32:32.000 Human beings will... 0.98

00:32:33.000 They just want to be...

00:32:33.000 It was like they were talking about why would the Germans, at one point, who were the quote-unquote most civilized society in the world, they read Goethe and everything else, and they had...

00:32:42.000 And what happened?

00:32:42.000 It culminated with concentration camps and feeding people to gas chambers and ovens.

00:32:47.000 Huh?

00:32:47.000 What?

00:32:48.000 What the fuck? 1.00

00:32:49.000 Meanwhile, Alir Latife is stepping towards a cage. 1.00

00:32:52.000 Just a video of him online, really recently, where he deadlifts, what was it, like 450 pounds 33 times?

00:33:00.000 That's impressive.

00:33:01.000 Oh my god.

00:33:01.000 Brennan Schaub might not be able to do that.

00:33:03.000 Something ridiculous like that. 0.98

00:33:04.000 I can't do that. 0.98

00:33:05.000 But he does 33 deadlifts with it.

00:33:07.000 He's built for it.

00:33:09.000 He's a little spark plug. 1.00

00:33:10.000 Check this motherfucker out. 1.00

00:33:11.000 What is the weight? 1.00

00:33:12.000 What does it say there?

00:33:13.000 440 33 times. 0.99

00:33:14.000 Okay, 440 pounds, he does it 33 fucking reps. 0.98

00:33:18.000 Mr. Schaub's doing $5.50 for $10 and doing $10 sets of that. 0.98

00:33:23.000 I could probably get close.

00:33:26.000 To this? 1.00

00:33:26.000 I'd blow my asshole out. 1.00

00:33:27.000 I bet you could. 1.00

00:33:29.000 Is a big fucking dude. 1.00

00:33:31.000 Oh, he's not doing continuous. 1.00

00:33:32.000 Oh, Brandon will do that.

00:33:32.000 He's doing them and then dropping them and then letting them go.

00:33:35.000 Brandon Schaub will do that.

00:33:37.000 No, let me ask you this.

00:33:38.000 Is that the way to go with deadlifts?

00:33:40.000 Do you just let it go when you don't lower it down?

00:33:43.000 Why wouldn't you lower it down?

00:33:45.000 Yeah, I lower it down, especially if I'm doing continuous reps.

00:33:47.000 That's a little weird.

00:33:49.000 I guess maybe saving energy, but you're restarting every time, so it's more work, I feel like.

00:33:53.000 Well, maybe that's why they're doing it.

00:33:55.000 It's a lot more work.

00:33:56.000 This is something thought up.

00:33:57.000 I thought he was going boosh.

00:33:59.000 Boosh! 1.00

00:33:59.000 No. 1.00

00:34:00.000 He's letting it drop.

00:34:02.000 It's still impressive.

00:34:03.000 It's not as hard.

00:34:04.000 He's doing 33 reps, dude.

00:34:06.000 But B was doing, Brennan was doing 550, 10 reps.

00:34:09.000 Don't call him B. Don't call him B. He was doing 10 reps, sorry.

00:34:12.000 He was doing 10 reps and he did 10 sets of that.

00:34:15.000 And you were doing that.

00:34:15.000 You were lifting 550 like you were getting out of a chair.

00:34:18.000 That was ridiculous. 0.84

00:34:20.000 For what? 1.00

00:34:21.000 Because I fucking tell dick jokes and drink coffee. 1.00

00:34:24.000 You're strong. 1.00

00:34:24.000 Because you want to look good. 1.00

00:34:25.000 You're very strong.

00:34:26.000 Correct.

00:34:26.000 Yeah, you want to look like a stud.

00:34:29.000 When you're right, you're very strong, man. 0.85

00:34:31.000 If you've got a big-ass gorilla body and you weren't lifting weights, it would be rude. 0.97

00:34:34.000 Like, you've got this big-ass body and you let it get all doughy and soft and get a little pot that hangs over your belt buckle. 0.72

00:34:40.000 Could be funny, though. 0.55

00:34:41.000 No.

00:34:41.000 No, that's not funny.

00:34:42.000 People would be upset. 1.00

00:34:43.000 This motherfucker got the perfect frame and he's wasting it, eating Cheetos. 1.00

00:34:49.000 You know? 1.00

00:34:50.000 I mean, if you have one of those bodies, you're supposed to fucking maintain that bitch. 1.00

00:34:54.000 Like, if you have a Ferrari, and you're putting paint, like, on it. 1.00

00:34:57.000 I want to paint my smiley faces on it. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Like an asshole. 1.00

00:34:59.000 Yeah, put bumper stickers. 1.00

00:35:01.000 Free Tibet on a Ferrari.

00:35:03.000 Free Tibet. 1.00

00:35:04.000 Fuck you. 1.00

00:35:06.000 Don't ever do that. 1.00

00:35:07.000 That's really funny.

00:35:08.000 You're ruining the shape of this beautiful thing.

00:35:11.000 Ryan Bader, stepping in.

00:35:12.000 Now, how does one, you know, like, recover from that, um...

00:35:16.000 That Rumble-Johnson fight, like he's moving into the top ten, he's in the top ten.

00:35:20.000 Oh, top five?

00:35:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:22.000 He won five in a row?

00:35:23.000 He's on his way towards the title shot, and then he fights someone like Rumble, and he gets so annihilated that it leaves this, like, okay, how much improvement would he have to make before he could beat Rumble?

00:35:34.000 Well, but that Rumble fight, I don't think, if I'm Ryan Bader, I'm his camp, you can't really chalk it up as, ah, he was the better fighter.

00:35:41.000 I think Bader shit his pants in a huge situation.

00:35:44.000 It didn't go his way. 0.65

00:35:45.000 Back to the drawing board.

00:35:46.000 You get past this one, then he's probably going to get Gustafson next, if they both win, is what I would assume.

00:35:52.000 Maybe.

00:35:53.000 Could be.

00:35:53.000 Because, you know...

00:35:54.000 OSP's still in the mix, too.

00:35:56.000 He already beat OSP. Yeah, he did, but OSP, I'm sure, would like a rematch.

00:36:00.000 Yeah, it'd be tough.

00:36:01.000 It'd be tough.

00:36:02.000 He's only 33. It's amazing when you think Ryan Bader won the Ultimate Fighter way back in the day.

00:36:07.000 Forever ago.

00:36:08.000 So long ago, man.

00:36:09.000 Then he has those wrestling days.

00:36:10.000 Bader's 6'2"?

00:36:11.000 I didn't know he was that tall.

00:36:12.000 He's a big boy.

00:36:12.000 Wow.

00:36:13.000 He's fairly narrow.

00:36:16.000 Latife's different. 1.00

00:36:17.000 How tall is Latife?

00:36:19.000 Is he 5'10"?

00:36:19.000 5'10"?

00:36:19.000 Where's he from?

00:36:20.000 Sparkplug.

00:36:21.000 Where's he from?

00:36:22.000 I think Latife is Albanian.

00:36:24.000 See if that's true.

00:36:26.000 But he was Swedish, right?

00:36:27.000 He grew up in Sweden.

00:36:30.000 I'm going to say Afghani. 0.59

00:36:31.000 I'm pretty sure Rose from the comic store said that's her Albanian brother.

00:36:36.000 Huh. 0.99

00:36:36.000 Goddamn, he's jacked. 0.99

00:36:38.000 Find out if he's originally from Albania. 0.99

00:36:40.000 Both these guys are bodied up.

00:36:40.000 She's right.

00:36:41.000 This guy's a tank, though, man. 0.58

00:36:43.000 He can hit, too.

00:36:44.000 Look at the size of him. 1.00

00:36:45.000 If you look at his fucking head, he's a tank. 1.00

00:36:48.000 If I'm beta, I wear his ass out and look to knock him out in the late second or third. 1.00

00:36:51.000 Yeah, he's super explosive. 0.99

00:36:54.000 It says he was born in Sweden.

00:36:56.000 It says all Sweden.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, but he's not Swedish.

00:36:59.000 Doesn't say anything Albanian.

00:37:00.000 He must Might go to the Wikipedia, buddy.

00:37:02.000 He was born and raised in Sweden.

00:37:04.000 Background.

00:37:06.000 Because they don't make him look like that in Sweden.

00:37:08.000 Does it say ethnicity?

00:37:09.000 Is it Albania?

00:37:10.000 Yeah, Albania.

00:37:11.000 There you go.

00:37:12.000 Swedish people all look the same. 1.00

00:37:14.000 Yeah, they do. 1.00

00:37:14.000 Fucking whiteys. 1.00

00:37:15.000 Goddamn whitey. 1.00

00:37:17.000 I'll tell you what, though. 1.00

00:37:19.000 Mousasi ate the fucking shit out of... 1.00

00:37:24.000 Latifi's whole world. 1.00

00:37:25.000 Just jab the fuck out of him. 0.97

00:37:28.000 Latifi took that fight on super short notice because somebody else got injured. 0.98

00:37:31.000 It was a last-minute fight.

00:37:33.000 It was Latifi's first fight in the UFC. Latifi doesn't have a good...

00:37:37.000 Latifi doesn't have a good... 1.00

00:37:39.000 He doesn't have a big win.

00:37:41.000 This would be his biggest win by far in the UFC. He doesn't really beat anyone that good so far.

00:37:45.000 No, this would be his biggest opponent for sure, but...

00:37:49.000 He's a spooky dude.

00:37:50.000 Oh, I hate this fight for Bader. 1.00

00:37:52.000 Especially coming off a loss for Anthony Johnson in fucking Germany. 0.98

00:37:56.000 Well, Latife's a world-class wrestler, too. 0.98

00:37:58.000 That's the other scary thing about it.

00:37:59.000 So Bader is most likely going to be out-wrestled by him.

00:38:03.000 Like, if they just go wrestling to wrestling.

00:38:04.000 And Latife can starch you with one shot. 0.99

00:38:08.000 Like, he clipped him right there. 0.51

00:38:08.000 He just clipped him with a left hook. 0.51

00:38:09.000 Remember, Bader has power, too, though.

00:38:11.000 He does. 1.00

00:38:11.000 Remember, he had Glover on the ropes and then ate a fucking hook from Mars. 1.00

00:38:15.000 Well, he won the Ultimate Fighter by bombing on Vinny Magalese. 0.99

00:38:18.000 Yeah.

00:38:18.000 Remember that?

00:38:19.000 And he wrestled in college.

00:38:21.000 Him and Kane were on the same team.

00:38:23.000 But he's fighting a guy with a lot to gain and some serious power and a guy who doesn't have a lot of miles on him.

00:38:32.000 That was a good right hand there by Vader. 0.96

00:38:34.000 Latifi has a lot of miles on him because of the world wrestling shit. 0.92

00:38:37.000 You know what I'm saying, Joe? 0.96

00:38:39.000 Wrestling training, you mean?

00:38:41.000 Yeah, all that wrestling.

00:38:42.000 I mean, granted, Bader grew up wrestling too, but a little different on the world level.

00:38:46.000 Latife is really reaching.

00:38:47.000 He's trying to close the distance with these frantic sprints, and Bader is really elegantly sliding out of the way.

00:38:53.000 That doesn't look good for Latife.

00:38:56.000 Ooh, nice.

00:38:56.000 Bader's beat Phil Davis, Rashad Evans, OSP. He's beat some fucking guys, man.

00:39:02.000 He's been in there with way better competition. 1.00

00:39:05.000 100%.

00:39:05.000 No question.

00:39:06.000 And here's the thing about Latife.

00:39:07.000 He's got this big power, but if you look at his technical approach, like how he's trying to approach Ryan, he's trying to step and then bomb. 0.87

00:39:15.000 And if it works, look, if he catches you with one of those things, you're fucksville.

00:39:19.000 But a guy at Ryan's level, he shouldn't really be getting caught with that stuff.

00:39:21.000 So he switched up to wrestling and Ryan stuffed a takedown.

00:39:24.000 So now Aaliyah is definitely losing this round so far, and he's losing it in terms of strategy, his ability to execute.

00:39:33.000 Is that how he switches to Southpaw?

00:39:34.000 Oh! 0.99

00:39:35.000 Kick to the body by Bader.

00:39:36.000 3.06, 3.02, 3.01, three minutes into the first round.

00:39:41.000 So if you want to sync it up with us.

00:39:46.000 Yeah, Latifi does not look good right here. 0.99

00:39:48.000 He keeps getting clipped with the kick, and look how easy Bader blocked that punch, because it's obvious, you know, it's that looping right that comes.

00:39:55.000 Latifi even got double unders, couldn't take Bader down. 0.98

00:39:58.000 I mean, people underestimate Bader's wrestling.

00:40:00.000 They forget about it, because he really doesn't use it that much.

00:40:02.000 It's interesting how, like, there's certain things that you just absolutely predict, right?

00:40:06.000 Like, if a guy catches your leg, if you throw a right kick, and the guy catches your leg, he's gonna throw a right hand.

00:40:11.000 Like, every time.

00:40:12.000 So you know that right hand's coming.

00:40:13.000 You know, it's unusual approaches to those real common situations.

00:40:18.000 Oh! 0.60

00:40:18.000 He keeps walking in that. 0.60

00:40:20.000 Oh, Latife throwing bombs. 1.00

00:40:22.000 Got kicked in the fucking face. 1.00

00:40:23.000 Bader clocked him with that. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Southpaw this.

00:40:27.000 Yeah, Latife's trying to sprint at him in these exchanges.

00:40:32.000 He's going to catch a knee, man.

00:40:33.000 Latife's hair said, see ya.

00:40:36.000 Why not just shave it, right, fellas?

00:40:37.000 He's got most of it shaved.

00:40:38.000 I think he just lets it grow with his beard for a couple days.

00:40:45.000 Iliar.

00:40:46.000 That's a cool name.

00:40:47.000 Yeah, it is.

00:40:49.000 Iliar.

00:40:51.000 So Bader is doing a lot of switching stances.

00:40:53.000 He looks great, man.

00:40:54.000 Yeah, he looks real loose.

00:40:56.000 A big loss like the Johnson one, man. 0.80

00:40:58.000 Especially when he came out of that huge win streak.

00:41:00.000 I'm sure he went back to the drawing board just to improve on stuff.

00:41:02.000 But if you can get past him, then give him a gust of an axe.

00:41:05.000 He's right back up in there, man.

00:41:06.000 Especially at 205. Who knows what's going to happen with John.

00:41:09.000 You've got DC, Rumble, you know?

00:41:11.000 Yeah, I mean, everybody just assumes that if Rumble catches you, you go to sleep, no matter who you are.

00:41:16.000 Well, that'd be correct, unless you're DC. He did catch DC and drop him on his ass. 1.00

00:41:20.000 Bader, like, good technique there. 0.99

00:41:21.000 Holds the left hand high, pinned to his face, throws that counter right hand, and he's able to throw, like, check hooks on both sides.

00:41:28.000 Look at that stuff. 0.99

00:41:29.000 Oh, dude, Bader is fucking on one tonight, man. 1.00

00:41:33.000 Latifi got double unders, couldn't do shit. 1.00

00:41:35.000 Nope. 1.00

00:41:36.000 Yeah, he looks good, man.

00:41:38.000 Looks good.

00:41:38.000 And also, you gotta realize, Latife, we're four minutes into this fight.

00:41:42.000 He's been unsuccessful for four minutes. 0.99

00:41:44.000 His mind's gotta be fucking with him. 0.99

00:41:46.000 Not even close, either. 0.99

00:41:47.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:41:47.000 Not a fuck with you. 1.00

00:41:48.000 Oh, he just connected with the left hand. 1.00

00:41:50.000 He just connected with the left hand.

00:41:51.000 That's the danger of fighting this guy.

00:41:53.000 Yeah.

00:41:53.000 The bombs.

00:41:54.000 He has so much power.

00:41:55.000 Look at him.

00:41:56.000 The way he throws things, too. 1.00

00:41:57.000 Vader can see it coming from fucking... 1.00

00:42:00.000 He's got to figure out a way. 1.00

00:42:01.000 You know, you don't learn until you fight a guy like this.

00:42:04.000 You've got to figure out a way to do it technically and then bomb selectively.

00:42:08.000 Correct. 0.81

00:42:08.000 These guys that try to bomb exclusively, those guys go dry. 0.81

00:42:11.000 They run out of gas.

00:42:12.000 Especially when you get in the top five.

00:42:14.000 Yeah.

00:42:15.000 I mean, even experienced guys.

00:42:17.000 12 through 15, you're fine, but top five.

00:42:19.000 Even Hector Lombard does that.

00:42:21.000 And he's an experienced guy with a World Bellator Championship.

00:42:25.000 Oh! 0.60

00:42:26.000 That's what we were talking about.

00:42:27.000 He caught him!

00:42:28.000 That's what we're talking about.

00:42:29.000 He just needs to get out of this round.

00:42:31.000 Well, he should break free, man, and keep bombing. 1.00

00:42:34.000 Ryan Bader's in deep shit right now. 1.00

00:42:36.000 Bader's in deep shit. 1.00

00:42:37.000 Damn, Bader got dropped, son. 1.00

00:42:39.000 Damn, Bader's tough. 1.00

00:42:41.000 Dude, and let me tell you something. 1.00

00:42:42.000 Fuck, you got out of the round. 1.00

00:42:43.000 How do you score the fight? 1.00

00:42:45.000 How do you score that round?

00:42:46.000 This is a good question.

00:42:47.000 He knocked him down.

00:42:49.000 You give it to Alifi. 0.97

00:42:50.000 So you gotta give it to Alifi.

00:42:51.000 Bader was winning for four minutes and forty seconds of that fight.

00:42:55.000 Here it is.

00:42:55.000 Still.

00:42:58.000 It's the end of the round and he got the knockdown.

00:43:00.000 That's a legit knockdown.

00:43:01.000 Come on, there's no way you're going to give it to Bader.

00:43:05.000 There's no way you're going to give it to Bader.

00:43:07.000 It's the end of the round and he got knocked down.

00:43:09.000 Dude, it was the end of the round and he got knocked down and you're going to give it to Bader?

00:43:14.000 Okay, but a knockdown scoring-wise in MMA is not the same as a knockdown in boxing.

00:43:19.000 If it was boxing, that would be either a 10-8 round or a 9-9 round.

00:43:23.000 It's all based on boxing, though.

00:43:24.000 It was all striking.

00:43:25.000 There was no grappling.

00:43:26.000 There was no grappling.

00:43:27.000 So let me ask you this, Eddie.

00:43:28.000 I mean, boxing scoring.

00:43:29.000 In boxing scoring, when a guy gets knocked down, you lose a point.

00:43:32.000 Okay, give it to Bader, then.

00:43:32.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:43:34.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:43:34.000 Eddie Bryan, so let's say he knocked him down the first 20 seconds of that fight, and then Bader won the rest 4 minutes and 40 seconds.

00:43:41.000 Who would you give the round to?

00:43:42.000 That's different.

00:43:42.000 Probably.

00:43:44.000 It's not the same.

00:43:45.000 It is the same.

00:43:46.000 You described a totally different situation.

00:43:48.000 No, I didn't.

00:43:48.000 It's the end of the round, and he got knocked down.

00:43:50.000 So the end of the round means more.

00:43:52.000 At the end of the round.

00:43:52.000 No, it doesn't.

00:43:53.000 I would personally count how you're doing toward the end of the fight.

00:43:57.000 Guys can't talk over each other, please.

00:43:59.000 That's not the way the judging works, fellas.

00:44:01.000 I hate to tell you.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, well, that's true.

00:44:04.000 It's true.

00:44:04.000 As far as what the fight is or how it's being judged because of the rules, we're talking about two totally different things.

00:44:11.000 If you're looking at the fight, yeah.

00:44:12.000 If this was a fight in the street and Latife got pulled off of him at the last second, everybody would think Latife won.

00:44:18.000 Even in the sport, he won.

00:44:22.000 He knocked him down.

00:44:23.000 At the very least, he made it a debate.

00:44:27.000 That fight could have been over right there with some more time.

00:44:29.000 Yeah, but he survived.

00:44:30.000 It doesn't matter.

00:44:31.000 You got Bader on that route?

00:44:33.000 I have a draw.

00:44:34.000 I have a draw.

00:44:36.000 It could be.

00:44:38.000 I didn't see Bader doing anything besides stuffing takedowns, though.

00:44:41.000 He didn't really connect a lot.

00:44:42.000 He's got his front headlock here.

00:44:43.000 Octagon control, forward aggression.

00:44:45.000 That means Bader's probably kind of tired.

00:44:47.000 And he got clipped there.

00:44:49.000 That's true.

00:44:50.000 He was pressing it all the time.

00:44:51.000 You guys just got to know how they score the rounds.

00:44:53.000 I want to know how you scored it, not how other people scored it.

00:44:56.000 I would give that a draw, an even round.

00:45:00.000 Okay.

00:45:01.000 Just because one guy does something with the last 20 seconds.

00:45:03.000 That's like saying the Connor-Diaz fight.

00:45:05.000 Man, if that was a fight fight, Diaz would probably win, right?

00:45:07.000 I'm just talking about the sport.

00:45:08.000 I'm not talking about Allie.

00:45:13.000 Latife threw a punch. 0.80

00:45:14.000 I always, like, flinch when dudes throw a punch and they land with the thumb.

00:45:18.000 Oh, dude.

00:45:18.000 You know, and they throw that, like, right hook, but it doesn't land knuckles.

00:45:21.000 That's why I have this fucking earthworm scar on my arm. 0.98

00:45:24.000 Yeah, I'm sure. 0.99

00:45:24.000 Because I land on that, and it's fucking compound fracture. 0.99

00:45:27.000 Yeah, Latife just did that. 0.99

00:45:29.000 He just threw a whipping bomb of a right hand, and he landed with his thumb, and I went, oof.

00:45:33.000 And it usually lands on, like, skull, like, not on chin.

00:45:35.000 It's the worst.

00:45:36.000 Just shatters your bone.

00:45:37.000 Keep an eye on his right hand.

00:45:39.000 I shattered my right thumb and when I got a surgery, I asked the doctor, I went, how's the scar?

00:45:43.000 I went, I did my best.

00:45:46.000 It looks like a centipede on my right hand.

00:45:50.000 So you're saying it comes from throwing that long hook?

00:45:53.000 Yeah, like a straight arm hook and you hit with the thumb.

00:45:57.000 Oh my god! 1.00

00:45:59.000 Ryan Bader, bitch! 1.00

00:46:01.000 God damn, Ryan Bader! 1.00

00:46:03.000 Holy shit! 1.00

00:46:04.000 He kept going down like that. 1.00

00:46:06.000 That's what I said.

00:46:07.000 That makes it easy.

00:46:08.000 That makes it easy.

00:46:08.000 He kept dipping his head, man.

00:46:10.000 He's gonna get caught eventually. 1.00

00:46:11.000 God, Bader got away with fucking... 1.00

00:46:12.000 Congrats to Ryan Bader. 1.00

00:46:14.000 That's huge, Bader.

00:46:15.000 That's huge.

00:46:16.000 Such a dangerous fight.

00:46:17.000 Jesus.

00:46:17.000 There's such a dangerous fight and hurt at the end of the first round and comes back with that shot.

00:46:22.000 Holy fuck, man. 1.00

00:46:24.000 Now, was that a kick or a knee? 1.00

00:46:25.000 It was a knee.

00:46:26.000 He kept going down like that because he's a southpaw.

00:46:28.000 Let's see.

00:46:29.000 I think he was doing both.

00:46:31.000 See, he was going for a kick.

00:46:32.000 It was a kick.

00:46:34.000 That's awful.

00:46:35.000 Oh, my God.

00:46:36.000 Look at that.

00:46:36.000 Walk away.

00:46:37.000 Look at this.

00:46:38.000 Boom! 0.99

00:46:39.000 Yeah, that was a kick that landed on the knee.

00:46:42.000 That's dangerous.

00:46:42.000 That looks awful.

00:46:43.000 God, it was perfect timing, though.

00:46:45.000 Beautiful. 1.00

00:46:46.000 Holy shit. 1.00

00:46:47.000 Goddamn, that was good. 1.00

00:46:47.000 He landed two of those in the first round. 1.00

00:46:49.000 Boom! 0.99

00:46:51.000 Actually, that kind of looks like a knee.

00:46:52.000 It's like he adjusted.

00:46:55.000 It looks like he was going for a kick and then just fall through on the knee.

00:46:58.000 I think he might have adjusted and turned it into a knee.

00:47:01.000 Beautiful.

00:47:01.000 But being a wrestler, his instinct looked like he just would keep going for that double when he got in trouble.

00:47:06.000 Goddamn, Ryan Baker. 1.00

00:47:08.000 Holy shit, that's huge. 1.00

00:47:09.000 Such a big win for him. 1.00

00:47:10.000 Coming off that loss, dude, to get a knockout win.

00:47:13.000 Top four.

00:47:14.000 You're getting gusts for next, son.

00:47:15.000 Enjoy that.

00:47:16.000 It's a tough fight.

00:47:20.000 Joe Silva's out, so I make the matchups now.

00:47:22.000 So is that it?

00:47:22.000 Is Joe Silva definitely out now?

00:47:23.000 Yeah, he's retiring.

00:47:24.000 He said, I made bank, son.

00:47:25.000 Is he done like this year or is he done right now?

00:47:28.000 End of the year.

00:47:29.000 End of the year.

00:47:29.000 Wow.

00:47:30.000 He said, I made my money. 1.00

00:47:31.000 Fuck this silly matchup stuff. 1.00

00:47:33.000 Wow. 1.00

00:47:33.000 That's interesting. 1.00

00:47:34.000 Sean Shelby, take care of this.

00:47:35.000 He must have gotten paid.

00:47:37.000 That's what they say.

00:47:38.000 Walk away.

00:47:44.000 What's he do after this?

00:47:46.000 Just lead the troll charge online? 0.98

00:47:48.000 Porn. 0.99

00:47:48.000 Joe Silva just starts doing UFC porn. 0.99

00:47:50.000 Does he just lead the troll charge? 0.98

00:47:52.000 He's the head troll online now?

00:47:54.000 Cut to Joe Silva's next project.

00:47:56.000 Quick YouTube clip.

00:47:57.000 Him in a diaper.

00:47:58.000 Pink cage.

00:47:59.000 Bam.

00:47:59.000 Coming soon.

00:48:00.000 He may be short, but he's got a dick. 0.99

00:48:03.000 And just all big dudes in MMA gloves. 1.00

00:48:06.000 Boom! 0.99

00:48:07.000 Yeah, it's like he was going for a kick and then adjusted in mid-swing and turned into a perfect knee.

00:48:13.000 You can see it.

00:48:13.000 Look at this.

00:48:14.000 Bam! 0.98

00:48:15.000 Yeah, see how he turned to hit the knee in?

00:48:17.000 That's awful.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, beautiful. 1.00

00:48:19.000 Fuck, that's awful. 1.00

00:48:19.000 Fuck, man, that's amazing. 1.00

00:48:21.000 Good for Ryan Bader. 1.00

00:48:22.000 Congratulations.

00:48:23.000 God, that's huge.

00:48:25.000 It's amazing that, again, that he's only 33. I mean, we've seen this dude in the UFC for a long time, but realistically, he's in his prime right now.

00:48:32.000 Right now.

00:48:33.000 Yeah.

00:48:33.000 He's 32 to like 35. Experienced, too.

00:48:36.000 Especially light heavyweight or heavyweight.

00:48:39.000 Around 35, 36, you start going, hmm, if you're not doing anything, how long can you keep this up?

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:44.000 Yeah, if you're not on an upward trajectory, it's not going.

00:48:49.000 Hey, let me ask you that, because you just had Scott Coker on, who I'm a big fan of.

00:48:54.000 Such a good dude.

00:48:55.000 Yeah, great guy, and he's running Bellator now.

00:48:58.000 Wish him all the luck in the world.

00:48:59.000 Powerful Matt Hughes.

00:49:00.000 That's a chin.

00:49:01.000 That's an American chin right there. 1.00

00:49:02.000 That's a fucking American haircut. 1.00

00:49:04.000 God damn it. 1.00

00:49:04.000 That's an American, period. 1.00

00:49:05.000 G.I. Joe, you guys.

00:49:05.000 Him and Henzo in Abu Dhabi.

00:49:07.000 Respect.

00:49:07.000 Yeah, they're going to have a grappling match.

00:49:09.000 That's awesome.

00:49:10.000 But Scott Coker running Bellator, if you're a fighter and you know Cajun, you know you like a little help, you know, in trains sometimes we're tired and you know, just a little pick-me-up, you know, run away from the doctor and you know,

00:49:26.000 no one need to know, a couple days I'll be back, my friend!

00:49:29.000 My friend!

00:49:30.000 There's people that have been doing that since the beginning of time.

00:49:34.000 They've been taking a little something-something, and then they get to the weigh-in, and all they have to do is pass what most fighters call the intelligence test.

00:49:41.000 Don't get popped after the fight.

00:49:44.000 So it'll help you with your training.

00:49:46.000 How many guys are looking at Bellator and saying, well, there's no USADA over there?

00:49:49.000 I can fight longer.

00:49:51.000 Oh, not only longer, how about better?

00:49:54.000 Yeah, better.

00:49:54.000 How about way better?

00:49:55.000 That'd be better.

00:49:56.000 And I can have all my sponsors.

00:49:58.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:49:59.000 Oh, well, we can't find Brendan.

00:50:00.000 He's on a mountain somewhere in Colorado, and we can't get a piss test off of him. 1.00

00:50:05.000 Meanwhile, he's just out there, just veins coming out of your dick and your face and your tongue-ass veins. 1.00

00:50:11.000 Rocky Mountain Oysters. 1.00

00:50:12.000 He's just doing deadlifts. 1.00

00:50:14.000 Fuck a little TV. 34, 35, 36. Yeah, man. 1.00

00:50:20.000 I mean, there's a real incentive.

00:50:22.000 And then there's a financial incentive because you can keep all your sponsors.

00:50:26.000 You don't have to worry about having a Reebok paired shorts on. 0.99

00:50:29.000 You can have Nike and fucking Under Armour and Condom Depot and whatever the fuck you want. 0.99

00:50:35.000 Well, that's what's going on with GSP and UFC, right? 0.99

00:50:36.000 Like, GSP goes, so I retired, but his contract freezes.

00:50:40.000 So the contract doesn't change because the last time he fought was 2013. He still has that old contract.

00:50:45.000 So when he comes back, they just go, yeah, turn the contract back on.

00:50:48.000 He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

00:50:49.000 When I was fighting for this money from the UFC, I had Under Armour, I had all these crazy brands.

00:50:56.000 I'm making tens of millions of dollars.

00:50:58.000 So you gotta make up for that.

00:51:00.000 And they're going, no, we're good.

00:51:02.000 And he's like, no, you can't do that. 0.99

00:51:03.000 I'm fucking George St. Pierre. 0.96

00:51:05.000 Did you see the war of words he's been having with Dana? 0.98

00:51:08.000 Where Dana's like, he really doesn't want to fight.

00:51:10.000 He doesn't want to fight at a championship level.

00:51:11.000 And then George goes, he does not know me.

00:51:14.000 He does not know me.

00:51:16.000 He goes, give me one fight and I'll show you who wants to fight. 0.99

00:51:18.000 How much money do you fucking need, UFC? Just pay the man. 0.99

00:51:21.000 Here's the thing from my perspective.

00:51:23.000 You can never say that a guy like George doesn't want it anymore unless he fights.

00:51:28.000 You cannot say that.

00:51:29.000 He is the greatest welterweight of all.

00:51:31.000 There's two guys.

00:51:32.000 There's Matt Hughes and there's George St. Pierre.

00:51:35.000 Those are the two, without a doubt, greatest welterweights historically ever.

00:51:40.000 So if either one of those guys wants to fight again, the last thing you can say is he doesn't want it.

00:51:45.000 Because only he knows if he wants it.

00:51:47.000 That's right. 1.00

00:51:48.000 He's the hardest motherfucker that ever weighed in at 170 pounds and fought. 0.99

00:51:52.000 And fought everybody. 0.99

00:51:53.000 He might go to Bellator?

00:51:55.000 No, he can't.

00:51:56.000 But he owns his contract. 1.00

00:51:57.000 But if I was Dana, I'd probably say the same shit. 1.00

00:52:00.000 100%. 1.00

00:52:00.000 That's what you gotta say. 1.00

00:52:01.000 All they're doing is to get him fired up.

00:52:04.000 I will sign your contract.

00:52:06.000 I'll sign it! 1.00

00:52:06.000 I'll fucking sign it! 1.00

00:52:08.000 Nah, he don't want it. 0.99

00:52:09.000 I'll do it for free! 1.00

00:52:11.000 Fuck it! 1.00

00:52:11.000 Give me that Reebok kick! 1.00

00:52:12.000 For Quebec.

00:52:13.000 All the money will go to my country.

00:52:15.000 George is too smart.

00:52:16.000 Do you hear me?

00:52:16.000 He goes, I know what Dana's trying to do.

00:52:17.000 He goes, I'm too smart to play these games.

00:52:19.000 I'll sit out.

00:52:20.000 Like, it's not going to happen.

00:52:21.000 Is he sitting out for more money?

00:52:22.000 Is that what the deal is?

00:52:24.000 Why don't you take over Joe Silva's job?

00:52:25.000 Why don't you call Dana up and say, yo, bygones. 1.00

00:52:27.000 Let's let this shit go by. 1.00

00:52:28.000 Water under the bridge. 1.00

00:52:29.000 Holler at me, dude.

00:52:30.000 I got some ideas!

00:52:32.000 Plus, I got flavor and a number one podcast.

00:52:35.000 Come with me, son!

00:52:37.000 Let's take a ride.

00:52:38.000 Let's do this.

00:52:39.000 Let's take a ride.

00:52:40.000 Let's take a ride.

00:52:40.000 Come on, man.

00:52:41.000 You want to have some fun?

00:52:42.000 Have a dude that you argue with all the time, and you guys publicly have little spats.

00:52:46.000 Everybody gets excited.

00:52:47.000 Come on! 0.61

00:52:49.000 Let's do this!

00:52:50.000 Mix it up!

00:52:51.000 Spit in my hand!

00:52:52.000 Come on, it's all good, man!

00:52:53.000 Shake! 1.00

00:52:54.000 I can't wear Reeboks, though.

00:52:56.000 No Reeboks.

00:52:56.000 That's the one stickler.

00:52:57.000 Would you wear Yeezys, you fucking dunce? 1.00

00:52:59.000 You're fucking right. 1.00

00:53:00.000 You're fucking right, I would. 0.99

00:53:03.000 That's how Yeezys are better. 1.00

00:53:04.000 I thought I had them on right now.

00:53:06.000 That's a large Serbian man or whatever he is.

00:53:08.000 Look at what I'm wearing here.

00:53:09.000 Chucks. 0.87

00:53:10.000 These are like some slick-looking Chucks, but these are old-school Chuck Taylor Converse.

00:53:14.000 I'm not mad at them.

00:53:15.000 You feel the ground.

00:53:17.000 Those are classics.

00:53:17.000 Quite flexible.

00:53:18.000 Fashion.

00:53:19.000 Easy, son.

00:53:20.000 They're not comfortable.

00:53:21.000 What?

00:53:21.000 How dare you?

00:53:22.000 How dare you?

00:53:23.000 For a long day, there's not much comfort.

00:53:25.000 Although they redid the soles on those.

00:53:26.000 I don't like the new ones.

00:53:27.000 Nike makes the soles now.

00:53:28.000 I don't like the new ones as much.

00:53:29.000 I wear them.

00:53:30.000 I like them.

00:53:31.000 They're okay.

00:53:31.000 I should say I don't like them.

00:53:33.000 I prefer these.

00:53:34.000 Those are second. 0.99

00:53:35.000 You prefer the old school fucking wood bottoms. 0.99

00:53:38.000 Yeah, like these, man. 0.99

00:53:38.000 These ones that... 0.99

00:53:39.000 Oh, what's this guy's name?

00:53:40.000 Those are new, son.

00:53:41.000 BM Footwear.

00:53:42.000 But these are not new.

00:53:43.000 These are the old school Converse.

00:53:45.000 Instagram, BM Footwear.

00:53:46.000 Check them out.

00:53:46.000 BM Footwear.

00:53:47.000 VM. Don't go BM. There's body, bowel movement.

00:53:51.000 Nah, even these are upgraded, son.

00:53:53.000 I don't have to believe so, buddy.

00:53:54.000 Yeah, feel the soul.

00:53:55.000 Feel the inside.

00:53:56.000 Oh, Brennan, no shoes.

00:53:57.000 You can see it.

00:53:58.000 Brennan, no shoes.

00:53:59.000 There's Lunarlon on there.

00:54:00.000 Where?

00:54:00.000 Is it green?

00:54:00.000 No, no, they're not the Nike Lunar.

00:54:03.000 The padding on the bottom is thicker than what they used to be.

00:54:06.000 Way thicker.

00:54:07.000 Okay, the inside, like the insole?

00:54:09.000 Yeah, but it's not the Nike Lunar. 0.96

00:54:10.000 They're still fucking hardest. 0.85

00:54:11.000 The sole's the same, but the insole's quite a little bit thicker. 0.97

00:54:14.000 Either way, that's what I like.

00:54:15.000 I like old school chucks, because they're flat.

00:54:17.000 That's like how your foot's supposed to be.

00:54:19.000 When you wear things with an elevated heel, like a running shoe, it's not really supposed to be very good for you.

00:54:24.000 Really?

00:54:24.000 Yeah, your body doesn't want to be elevated in your heel like that.

00:54:27.000 You're supposed to wear some- Like cowboy boots?

00:54:28.000 Like, Eddie, when you lifted, you would always lift with these on, right?

00:54:31.000 Yep.

00:54:33.000 Yeah, they're real thin.

00:54:34.000 That's why I wear ninja slippers. 1.00

00:54:36.000 That's a fucking shoe there, Joe. 1.00

00:54:37.000 Can we get you to wear some Yeezys? 1.00

00:54:38.000 No.

00:54:39.000 Why?

00:54:39.000 Those are goofy.

00:54:40.000 They're the worst shoe running in those things. 1.00

00:54:42.000 Look, why does it have a thin sole where the toes are- It's a running shoe. 1.00

00:54:46.000 Shut your fucking mouth. 1.00

00:54:48.000 A fat soul down there. 1.00

00:54:49.000 Why? 0.75

00:54:50.000 For pure comfort.

00:54:51.000 Nobody's running in those.

00:54:52.000 It's a running shoe.

00:54:53.000 People work out on them all the time, too.

00:54:55.000 How dare you.

00:54:55.000 You do not work out on these.

00:54:57.000 I don't.

00:54:57.000 People do, though, at the gym.

00:54:59.000 I just don't think that they're that cool looking.

00:55:01.000 I don't like them.

00:55:02.000 Well, you're 50. I don't think you're the demographic.

00:55:03.000 Nah, they still just don't.

00:55:05.000 You wouldn't know, though. 1.00

00:55:06.000 Aesthetically, they kind of suck, dude. 1.00

00:55:07.000 You wouldn't know, though. 1.00

00:55:08.000 You and Jamie are on the wrong side of history with these stupid shoes. 1.00

00:55:11.000 I don't think so. 1.00

00:55:12.000 Well, I have cons, too.

00:55:13.000 You're gonna look back on those shoes like people do, and you're gonna be like, I can't believe I wore those back in the movie.

00:55:18.000 You know what I will never look back on?

00:55:20.000 Me wearing sandals with jeans like you do all the time.

00:55:23.000 You just can't do that. 1.00

00:55:24.000 Jesus did it, so kiss my ass. 1.00

00:55:26.000 I guess Jesus is wrong, too. 1.00

00:55:28.000 I always forget about Gustafson when I think about the division.

00:55:34.000 Such a badass.

00:55:36.000 Well, and also Gustafson is one of those guys that's been talking about retirement.

00:55:39.000 He's talked about ending it soon.

00:55:42.000 He went down to San Diego because he wanted to find the passion again, and I guess he still didn't find it.

00:55:47.000 So that's why they kind of...

00:55:48.000 Are you sure?

00:55:49.000 This is kind of a toss-up fight.

00:55:50.000 Yeah, you were saying he's still having some struggles with it.

00:55:53.000 Well, he's been public about that?

00:55:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:55.000 While training for this fight?

00:55:56.000 That might be a trap.

00:56:00.000 Who is the guy he's fighting?

00:56:03.000 Compared to Gustafson, he's a joke.

00:56:05.000 Well, he's not a joke.

00:56:06.000 He's just inexperienced in comparison to Gustafson.

00:56:09.000 But he's a dangerous guy.

00:56:11.000 He's from Poland. 1.00

00:56:12.000 They don't fuck around, dude. 1.00

00:56:15.000 Gustafson is the fucking... 1.00

00:56:16.000 You know what I'm saying? 1.00

00:56:17.000 He's that one percenter. 1.00

00:56:19.000 He almost beat fucking DC. He almost beat John. 0.99

00:56:22.000 And then he got that freak knockout by Johnson. 0.64

00:56:25.000 He's lost to just the one percent of one percent.

00:56:28.000 True, true.

00:56:29.000 True, true.

00:56:30.000 It's tough, man.

00:56:31.000 Yeah, Blakovich is certainly, this is like, without a doubt, like the toughest fight he's ever had.

00:56:36.000 That guy looks like a bad guy from the James Bond movie.

00:56:39.000 The guy on his right, look at that guy.

00:56:40.000 Yeah, he really does.

00:56:40.000 Jesus, he looks tough.

00:56:42.000 Definitely killed people. 0.99

00:56:44.000 Yeah, he's like the guy that James Bond has to fight in like an elevator and he kills him with a pen. 0.96

00:56:49.000 He looks rough.

00:56:50.000 Like the suit, he's wearing a suit and it's just, it's impossible to be elegant with that.

00:56:55.000 He just looks brutal.

00:56:56.000 It's not a well-tailored suit either, is it?

00:56:58.000 It doesn't look...

00:57:00.000 He's not at home in a suit.

00:57:01.000 He's at home in camo.

00:57:02.000 Camo?

00:57:03.000 With a knife.

00:57:04.000 Or a line cloth.

00:57:05.000 Did he leave his Yeezys at home?

00:57:06.000 That guy doesn't wear the Yeezys.

00:57:08.000 Well, he can't get ahold of them.

00:57:08.000 Yeezys melt off the fence.

00:57:11.000 They're so exclusive.

00:57:12.000 They're tough to get ahold of them.

00:57:12.000 What about fake Yeezys from China?

00:57:14.000 Is that super popular?

00:57:16.000 It's super popular, but it's very easy to tell.

00:57:18.000 Me and Brian were at lunch the other day, and four guys had him on.

00:57:21.000 I went, Brian, you want to see fake Yeezys? 0.83

00:57:23.000 How could you tell?

00:57:24.000 He's got an eye, man.

00:57:24.000 He's got an eagle eye for that show.

00:57:25.000 How could you tell?

00:57:26.000 There's little things.

00:57:27.000 Like, on the Converse, you know, like, maybe the star is black on that Converse.

00:57:31.000 On the Yeezys, the stitching on the back's different.

00:57:33.000 The space between the soles is different.

00:57:36.000 He's like a sneaker connoisseur.

00:57:37.000 It's unbelievable.

00:57:37.000 It's like smelling him like a fun one.

00:57:39.000 He'll have long conversations about it.

00:57:40.000 No, no.

00:57:41.000 The glue is from Indonesia.

00:57:43.000 This is fake.

00:57:43.000 Ha, ha, ha.

00:57:45.000 You know what it is, Joe?

00:57:46.000 It'd be the same if someone bought a Z28 and then put SS badges on it.

00:57:50.000 You're like, well, those rims are different.

00:57:52.000 The exhaust is different.

00:57:53.000 The interior's different.

00:57:54.000 Let me see the engine. 0.99

00:57:55.000 You're like, God damn it. 1.00

00:57:56.000 You're honeydicking me. 1.00

00:57:57.000 This ain't a fucking SS. Cars are just like shoes. 1.00

00:58:01.000 Exactly.

00:58:01.000 Details.

00:58:02.000 It's all in the details, kids.

00:58:05.000 Exactly.

00:58:06.000 All in the deets.

00:58:08.000 Dude, how about your boy Damian Maia?

00:58:10.000 Dude.

00:58:11.000 Dude, his jujitsu is so next level.

00:58:15.000 For him to do that to Condit, just slice through him like butter?

00:58:19.000 Dude, can you imagine?

00:58:20.000 Let's say Wonderboy beats Woodley, and then you have Damian Maia vs.

00:58:24.000 Wonderboy.

00:58:24.000 It would be like Hot Tub Time Machine 1993. Because you have one guy who just does jujitsu, One guy that just does stand-up in 2016. He doesn't just do jiu-jitsu.

00:58:34.000 The reason why he's able to pull off his beautiful jiu-jitsu is because of his wrestling.

00:58:38.000 He can take everybody down at 170. It doesn't matter.

00:58:40.000 For sure.

00:58:41.000 But it's still one aspect of MMA compared to one aspect of MMA in 2016. Right.

00:58:47.000 But at the highest of highest levels, it's fucking dope. 0.99

00:58:50.000 It's a throwback. 0.99

00:58:51.000 It is pretty dope.

00:58:51.000 It's dope.

00:58:52.000 It's like Hot Top Time Machine, but we just, you know what I'm saying? 0.99

00:58:54.000 They went back, but their skills are ridiculous.

00:58:56.000 It's so equivalent, because one guy's this elite, world-class striker, and the other guy's this elite, world-class grappler, who, like, they could compete outside of the UFC, In striking or in grappling.

00:59:08.000 If Wonderboy took on a kickboxing bout in Glory, he'd be very competitive with some of the best kickboxers in the world.

00:59:14.000 And if Damien Maia entered into a major jiu-jitsu competition tomorrow, he'd be very competitive against some of the best grapplers in the world.

00:59:20.000 It's really crazy.

00:59:21.000 It's cool, right?

00:59:21.000 Isn't it cool in 2016 to have that crazy dynamic?

00:59:24.000 I can't think of last time something like...

00:59:27.000 Generally, most UFC fighters, most of them, They couldn't go into, like, Abu Dhabi or even EBI and they would get smashed.

00:59:35.000 Unless they're a high-level wrestler.

00:59:37.000 Yeah, it'd be tough.

00:59:38.000 Yeah, and even high-level wrestler, like in the submission-only tournament, they've got leg locks.

00:59:42.000 In Abu Dhabi, well, submission-only, but, like, EBI different.

00:59:45.000 Abu Dhabi, there's some high-level wrestlers, guys that jump in there with not a ton of jutsu experience.

00:59:50.000 Exactly. 0.95

00:59:51.000 In Abu Dhabi, because of the point system, wrestling becomes fucking everything. 0.98

00:59:55.000 Correct. 0.96

00:59:55.000 That's why you can see some guys go in and compete. 0.96

00:59:57.000 All the Brazilians, when they're getting ready for Abu Dhabi, they're going to wrestling camps.

01:00:01.000 Maybe with the church boys and all that.

01:00:02.000 Because Abu Dhabi counts takedowns or what?

01:00:04.000 We should just explain that Abu Dhabi is the Abu Dhabi Combat Club.

01:00:07.000 This is like the biggest submission for jiu-jitsu.

01:00:10.000 Yeah.

01:00:11.000 Sheik Tak Noon, the guy who owns, I think he owns 10% of the UFC. He also is a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu under Henzo Gracie.

01:00:21.000 And he puts on these grappling competitions that are just monstrous.

01:00:25.000 They spend money, and they have the best fighters in the world, and they put together...

01:00:29.000 They should really adopt EBI rules, dude.

01:00:31.000 It's like blood sport for jiu-jitsu.

01:00:33.000 EBI rules need to be standard, edgy brah.

01:00:36.000 You know what? 0.99

01:00:36.000 EBI wrestlers are going to get fucked up. 0.99

01:00:38.000 Many tournaments are switching. 0.99

01:00:39.000 I see it.

01:00:40.000 Many, many tournaments are switching to EBI rules now.

01:00:42.000 That makes sense.

01:00:43.000 Sonnen went to it.

01:00:44.000 Chael Sonnen's tournament went to it.

01:00:45.000 They did?

01:00:45.000 Yep.

01:00:46.000 It's smart.

01:00:47.000 It's the most exciting set of rules by far.

01:00:49.000 By far.

01:00:49.000 Not even close.

01:00:50.000 Thank you, man.

01:00:50.000 Thank you.

01:00:51.000 You guys going to the show next week?

01:00:53.000 Jihad. 0.68

01:00:53.000 Are you going? 0.68

01:00:54.000 Yeah, Jihad. 0.82

01:00:54.000 Sunday? 0.82

01:00:55.000 You going?

01:00:55.000 Where's it at?

01:00:56.000 Next Sunday at the Orpheum.

01:00:56.000 LA? LA, downtown at the Orpheum.

01:00:58.000 Yeah, I'll be there.

01:00:59.000 Let's go.

01:00:59.000 Get your tickets at ebiofficial.com.

01:01:01.000 We're in.

01:01:02.000 We're in.

01:01:02.000 Oh, for sure?

01:01:03.000 What about you, Brian?

01:01:04.000 I'll come. 0.97

01:01:04.000 Next Sunday, it's going to be fucking amazing. 0.97

01:01:06.000 Gordon Ryan. 0.98

01:01:06.000 I might be in New York City. 0.98

01:01:07.000 Gordon Ryan is the best jiu-jitsu player on the planet right now.

01:01:11.000 I'm doing Gotham Comedy Club.

01:01:12.000 September 16th and 17th.

01:01:14.000 When is it?

01:01:15.000 September 11th.

01:01:16.000 I'll be around.

01:01:17.000 Tower 7 day.

01:01:18.000 Did you guys see Gordon Ryan versus Keenan Cornelius go for, what, 90 minutes?

01:01:21.000 90 minutes, yeah.

01:01:22.000 Keenan's a monster.

01:01:24.000 Keenan's a monster, but Gordon Ryan beat him, man. 0.99

01:01:26.000 Tapped him. 0.98

01:01:27.000 20 years old.

01:01:28.000 Kid's been training jiu-jitsu four and a half years.

01:01:30.000 Jesus Christ!

01:01:31.000 But Keenan Cornelius is going to do EBI November 6th.

01:01:34.000 We're doing the light heavyweights, and Gordon Ryan's going to do that one as well.

01:01:37.000 I love Keenan.

01:01:38.000 But next Sunday is 185. Next Sunday is 185. It's the middleweights, EBI, downtown LA, the Orpheum.

01:01:44.000 What time does it start?

01:01:46.000 At 5 o'clock.

01:01:47.000 Okay, cool.

01:01:48.000 It's going to be on UFC Fight Pass, but for those of you that don't live in Southern California.

01:01:53.000 Yeah, UFC Fight Pass, stepping up.

01:01:55.000 I love it.

01:01:55.000 Yeah, man.

01:01:56.000 It's so cool that they did that.

01:01:58.000 Okay, here we go.

01:01:58.000 We got Gustafsson versus Blachowicz.

01:02:01.000 Gustafsson got checked.

01:02:02.000 I would be willing to bet if Gustafsson, for whatever reason, loses his fight, is done fighting.

01:02:07.000 Blachowicz with a right hand over the top. 0.99

01:02:09.000 Gustafsson's so fucking big. 0.96

01:02:10.000 I think you say Blachowicz is the way you're supposed to say it. 0.99

01:02:14.000 Blahovitch? 1.00

01:02:14.000 I'm saying Blahovitch. 1.00

01:02:16.000 I think it's Blahovitch. 1.00

01:02:16.000 I like Blahovitch. 1.00

01:02:17.000 Just call him the block, son. 0.95

01:02:18.000 The block.

01:02:19.000 Talking about the block?

01:02:20.000 The blow-ho. 0.55

01:02:21.000 The blow-ho? 0.78

01:02:22.000 No, that doesn't work.

01:02:23.000 Yeah.

01:02:23.000 I like the block.

01:02:24.000 The blow-ho. 1.00

01:02:25.000 Oh, fuck! 1.00

01:02:27.000 He's, um... 1.00

01:02:27.000 I don't like the way Justin's looking. 1.00

01:02:29.000 Blachowicz keeps his head right in the center when he's throwing bombs against a really elite guy.

01:02:35.000 He stiffens up a little bit when he's standing up.

01:02:38.000 He could get clipped with counters. 0.52

01:02:40.000 Gus and I trained together for my Mitrione fight, and he went six rounds with a world-class boxer, and it was fucking a war, and then jumped in and went three rounds with me back-to-back. 1.00

01:02:53.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:02:55.000 He's a fucking animal. 1.00

01:02:56.000 He's a tough guy. 1.00

01:02:57.000 And you know what?

01:02:58.000 I mean...

01:02:58.000 Powerful CM Punk for Mickey Gall sponsor on the back there.

01:03:02.000 What are you saying?

01:03:03.000 Oh, right there on the wall? 0.99

01:03:03.000 That's ridiculous. 0.99

01:03:05.000 Yeah, well, I mean, he's a famous guy. 0.91

01:03:07.000 Look, the CM Punk thing, the thing that's most interesting about it is that he took all his time.

01:03:11.000 Whoa, Blachowicz is throwing some bombs.

01:03:13.000 But he's stiff. 0.94

01:03:15.000 Stiff with the neck.

01:03:16.000 Stiff in there.

01:03:17.000 He's like...

01:03:17.000 Gus Fin's reach is so good, man.

01:03:20.000 Not in this fight.

01:03:21.000 Not in this fight. 0.99

01:03:23.000 But usually it's fucking on point. 0.99

01:03:24.000 His jab's world class. 0.99

01:03:26.000 Well, Blachowicz is fighting really well.

01:03:27.000 Yeah, he's fighting really, really well.

01:03:29.000 He's very stiff.

01:03:30.000 He's using up a lot of energy.

01:03:31.000 I'll tell you what a surprise is.

01:03:32.000 Gustvin's wrestling, man.

01:03:34.000 His counter-wrestling is amazing. 0.99

01:03:36.000 Well, when he took John down in the first round, everybody was like, oh, shit. 0.99

01:03:40.000 Called that. 1.00

01:03:41.000 Because I was wrestling with his ass. 1.00

01:03:43.000 I'm like, Jesus Christ. 0.99

01:03:43.000 Do you really think he was going to take John down? 0.99

01:03:44.000 I did.

01:03:45.000 I called it.

01:03:45.000 Wow.

01:03:46.000 Yeah.

01:03:46.000 That's hilarious.

01:03:47.000 Because his wrestling's so unexpected and good.

01:03:51.000 Wow.

01:03:53.000 That's impressive.

01:03:55.000 He's so big for a 205 or two, man. 1.00

01:03:57.000 He's tall as shit. 1.00

01:03:59.000 6'5", man. 1.00

01:04:00.000 Yeah, I always wonder, what does a guy like that walk around at?

01:04:04.000 He's like high 220s, 230s sometimes.

01:04:08.000 So with a guy like him, do you think there'd be any benefit in a rigorous strength and conditioning program and moving up?

01:04:15.000 To heavyweight?

01:04:16.000 Yeah.

01:04:16.000 I mean, him versus Stipe would be a hell of a fight, but I think when you fight guys like Rothwell, like Stipe, JDS, Kane, I think he might be alright.

01:04:25.000 I don't know if he doesn't possess the power.

01:04:27.000 That's the problem.

01:04:28.000 I don't know, man.

01:04:28.000 He's knocked guys out.

01:04:29.000 He knocked Jimmy Manoa out.

01:04:31.000 Name a high-level guy that he's knocked out, though.

01:04:34.000 Well, Manoa's pretty high-level.

01:04:35.000 Take it easy.

01:04:37.000 Let's just be real.

01:04:39.000 When you're talking about John Jones, DC, you're talking about 1%ers. 1.00

01:04:42.000 But the only guy out of that group that stopped him was Rumble.

01:04:47.000 And Rumble could stop anybody.

01:04:48.000 And if you look at the way Rumble stopped him, it's actually arguably more impressive that he lasted as long as he did when Rumble was bombing on him.

01:04:57.000 But those extra shots that he took, those don't help you.

01:05:00.000 Not at all.

01:05:02.000 What's like...

01:05:02.000 Oh, my God.

01:05:03.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

01:05:04.000 He's making a dogfight. 1.00

01:05:05.000 What's like Carlos Condit, right?

01:05:07.000 Like, he loses that fight, and he's like, I don't know if I want to do this anymore.

01:05:09.000 Then I heard his coach on the interview, Brandon Gibson, powerful Brandon Gibson.

01:05:13.000 There's his wrestling.

01:05:13.000 I don't know if he wants to do it anymore.

01:05:17.000 He wants to move on, do other stuff.

01:05:18.000 It's time to get out, man.

01:05:20.000 He can still beat 90... 1.00

01:05:22.000 8% of the division, but still, man, get the fuck out, Condit. 0.99

01:05:25.000 He's also a smart guy. 0.99

01:05:27.000 Very smart.

01:05:28.000 And when you're that smart, you're aware, like, okay, how many more shots am I going to be able to take? 0.98

01:05:33.000 Well, he was at like, what was he, 16, 17, doing Valley Tudo bare knuckle boxing and shit? 1.00

01:05:38.000 Like, he's a nightmare. 0.99

01:05:39.000 That age?

01:05:39.000 Yeah.

01:05:40.000 He fought his first ever kickboxing match against Andy Sauer, who's a world champion. 0.98

01:05:48.000 Yeah, if you don't know Andy Sowers, fucking Google or YouTube him. 0.84

01:05:52.000 I marvel at Condit, how good he's always been. 0.98

01:05:55.000 Yeah, Andy Sauer is like a phenom, like a world champion, multiple-time world champion.

01:06:01.000 That was Carlos' first kickboxing bout.

01:06:03.000 It's so insane that he took that fight.

01:06:05.000 He's done bare-knuckle stuff.

01:06:07.000 He's just been fighting forever, man.

01:06:09.000 So the head trauma, like you said, he's a smart guy.

01:06:11.000 He talks about it.

01:06:12.000 He's open about it.

01:06:13.000 What's he talking about?

01:06:14.000 He said about head trauma and stuff?

01:06:16.000 Yeah, just like it's a concern of his, and he doesn't know if he wants to keep doing it and stuff like that.

01:06:19.000 He has a second or third baby on the way, I think.

01:06:22.000 He's probably got some money in the bank, I hope.

01:06:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:06:26.000 I don't know how much money he's made.

01:06:28.000 It's tough with a guy like that.

01:06:29.000 He's an interim champ, right?

01:06:31.000 Yeah.

01:06:31.000 And then he's always fought top five level, but to really make that crazy retirement money, you've got to beat a guy like GSP, Conor, you know what I'm saying?

01:06:39.000 Yeah, or you got to figure out some way to market yourself outside of the UFC. I mean, it's got to be something like Alan Joban's doing modeling.

01:06:46.000 You know, you broke off into podcasting.

01:06:48.000 There's got to be, like, another way as well.

01:06:51.000 But to only rely on your success in athletic contests to make your money?

01:06:56.000 You almost have to, Joe.

01:06:58.000 Because Damien Maia's not thinking about making money anywhere else.

01:07:02.000 Condit right now can open up an MMA gym and make plenty of money.

01:07:07.000 That's tough, man.

01:07:08.000 I think that's easier said than done.

01:07:09.000 No, it's not that hard.

01:07:12.000 You're a UFC fighter.

01:07:14.000 The UFC gyms would beg to differ.

01:07:18.000 Verdooms, verdooms.

01:07:21.000 I'm just saying in general, if you go off the general consensus of opening a gym, you don't get your money back returned within four years.

01:07:29.000 It's not a smart business to go into.

01:07:30.000 If you're a black belt and you're a legit, if you're a UFC fighter and you're a black belt, and you're not, I'm in the, this is my business.

01:07:37.000 You're a great teacher.

01:07:39.000 No, he doesn't even have to teach.

01:07:43.000 He doesn't trust me.

01:07:45.000 He could make plenty of money with just his own gym.

01:07:50.000 Have two gyms.

01:07:51.000 Super easy.

01:07:52.000 You just gotta be a black belt at the marketing.

01:07:54.000 Learn the marketing.

01:07:55.000 Learn how to do it.

01:07:56.000 He's got a black belt and he's a UFC fighter.

01:07:58.000 I know guys that are purple belts that are making a living.

01:08:02.000 They just have the marketing down.

01:08:04.000 It's huge.

01:08:05.000 It's still growing.

01:08:06.000 It's expanding.

01:08:07.000 Jiu-Jitsu schools and MMA gyms done right.

01:08:09.000 It really is like the gold rush.

01:08:12.000 I agree 100%.

01:08:13.000 It's wide open.

01:08:15.000 Now you're assuming he has the money put down to open a gym.

01:08:18.000 She could do it easy.

01:08:20.000 Easy.

01:08:21.000 A million percent.

01:08:23.000 Easy.

01:08:23.000 Carlos Condon?

01:08:24.000 That guy's a famous UFC star and a black belt?

01:08:27.000 I'm not saying he can't.

01:08:28.000 I think to assume a guy can open a gym and make a shitload of money is tough.

01:08:31.000 A million percent.

01:08:32.000 A million percent.

01:08:33.000 So anyone in the UFC could do it?

01:08:34.000 If you're a black belt, if you're a legit black belt and you've had success in the UFC, like I just said, I've had guys that haven't been in the UFC, not even black belts, and they're It is two different skills.

01:08:50.000 You just gotta know the business.

01:08:51.000 That's a big if, though.

01:08:53.000 Am I wrong here, Joe?

01:08:55.000 Running a business and knowing how to fight is a completely different world.

01:08:59.000 Yes, that's why I said if you master the marketing and the business side.

01:09:02.000 That's a big if.

01:09:03.000 If you learn how to speak Spanish, you could write awesome books.

01:09:07.000 No, but it's easier than learning Spanish.

01:09:10.000 It's easier than that.

01:09:11.000 I believe it.

01:09:12.000 The motivation is there too because it's like your money and it's your family.

01:09:17.000 It's not that hard at all.

01:09:19.000 Learning how to coach.

01:09:19.000 I'm dealing with this every day.

01:09:20.000 I deal with this every day.

01:09:21.000 And you're brilliant at it.

01:09:23.000 It doesn't mean it's easy though.

01:09:24.000 There's a lot of guys that are just not good at coaching.

01:09:26.000 But it's easy.

01:09:27.000 It's easy.

01:09:29.000 All you gotta do is know the system and work hard.

01:09:32.000 That's it.

01:09:32.000 You work hard.

01:09:33.000 If you're lazy, it ain't gonna happen.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, but that's the truth of everything.

01:09:37.000 There's so many people that are looking for things to be happening. 0.97

01:09:39.000 No, no, but there's a lot of things that require just shit that you could never learn, like being a stand-up comedian. 0.96

01:09:45.000 Not everybody can do that, right? 0.98

01:09:47.000 Not everybody could be a singer.

01:09:49.000 Not everybody.

01:09:50.000 But everybody can do certain things in business.

01:09:52.000 All you gotta do is do the work and not be lazy, and you can make it happen.

01:09:57.000 You don't need special talent.

01:10:02.000 Blachowicz cannot get off his back.

01:10:05.000 Powerful wrestling by Alexander.

01:10:07.000 Yeah, he's getting smushed.

01:10:08.000 He's getting a lot of elbows.

01:10:09.000 I agree with you, Brandon, a million percent.

01:10:12.000 Once a fighter starts doubting whether they have the heart, I think it's time to just transition.

01:10:18.000 Especially a guy like Carlos.

01:10:19.000 It's time to transition.

01:10:21.000 It's also an absolute fact that when you get hit in the head a lot, it starts to affect your enthusiasm.

01:10:26.000 It starts to affect your endocrine system.

01:10:29.000 There's a potential, like, you know, I know a guy who's a world-class boxer, and I know a friend who trains him, who said that he absolutely has pituitary gland damage, and he has a really hard time getting the energy up to train.

01:10:39.000 They had his testosterone checked and it's just ridiculously low.

01:10:42.000 And there's nothing they can do about it because the supplement is illegal.

01:10:45.000 So they can't supplement his testosterone.

01:10:47.000 So this guy is forced to fight with low testosterone, low enthusiasm.

01:10:52.000 He just can't muster up the kind of performances he had earlier in his career.

01:10:55.000 And that's super common, man.

01:10:57.000 When you see fighters slow down as they get older, it is not just because they're older.

01:11:01.000 It's because they're older and they've taken a lot of punishment.

01:11:05.000 Those are the big factors.

01:11:06.000 And it causes a physiological change in their body.

01:11:09.000 Yep.

01:11:09.000 Well, you see some guys like Chinzo Machida.

01:11:12.000 Chinzo's like 39 years old, but he doesn't have a lot of fights on him.

01:11:16.000 And so he's fighting in Bellator now.

01:11:18.000 He looks like a world-beater. 0.98

01:11:19.000 He looks fucking fantastic. 0.99

01:11:21.000 He's a starching dude. 0.99

01:11:22.000 Knees, kicks, starching good.

01:11:24.000 He looks like his brother in a lot of ways.

01:11:26.000 He looks like Lyoto.

01:11:27.000 Maybe even a little more aggressive than Lyoto.

01:11:29.000 He's aggressive.

01:11:29.000 He's more wild, I would say.

01:11:31.000 How's his jiu-jitsu and stuff?

01:11:32.000 Very good.

01:11:33.000 Well, he's an elite martial artist.

01:11:35.000 He's an elite martial artist.

01:11:36.000 Chinzo Machida.

01:11:37.000 Such a good guy, too.

01:11:38.000 I bet.

01:11:39.000 Oh, he's a good guy.

01:11:40.000 Well, Leoto's an awesome guy.

01:11:41.000 Yeah, they're all great. 0.96

01:11:42.000 But the point being that that guy hasn't taken a lot of mileage, so even though he's 39 years old, he looks fucking good.

01:11:48.000 He doesn't look like a 39-year-old guy who's at the tail end of a long MMA career, and he's got all these injuries he's constantly struggling against and can't get through camp without getting hurt.

01:11:57.000 It's not like that.

01:11:58.000 Mm-hmm.

01:11:58.000 You're looking at a guy who's...

01:12:00.000 Well, that's like the CM Punk argument, right?

01:12:03.000 He's 37 or 38, whatever he is, and he has a lot of injuries coming from professional wrestling, and he's never done the sport, so then he has to train two years and then go into it.

01:12:14.000 You're talking about a different animal.

01:12:15.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:15.000 It's not a good fucking... 0.99

01:12:16.000 It's not like, if you look at it like a plan. 0.98

01:12:20.000 Like, this is the way I want to get into MMA. It's not a good plan, but this is the plan that he was dealt.

01:12:25.000 I mean, he's 37 years old.

01:12:26.000 He decides he's going to do it now.

01:12:27.000 He does a lot of things that I like.

01:12:29.000 He goes to Rufus Sport, which is an outstanding gym.

01:12:32.000 One of the best.

01:12:32.000 He's working with world-class trainers and world-class sparring partners.

01:12:37.000 And then on top of that, he took two whole years.

01:12:39.000 So it's as good as the guy could do.

01:12:41.000 Two whole years?

01:12:41.000 Two whole years.

01:12:42.000 Think about...

01:12:45.000 Damien Maia's damage he's taken throughout his career.

01:12:47.000 He hasn't really taken any damage.

01:12:49.000 He's taken 13 punches in his last, what, four fights?

01:12:52.000 Yeah, 13. It's incredible.

01:12:53.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:12:54.000 What fight was he involved in that he received the most damage? 1.00

01:12:58.000 Nate Marquardt starched him with one punch.

01:13:00.000 Oh, really?

01:13:01.000 Knocked him out?

01:13:01.000 Knocked him out.

01:13:02.000 He went to kick.

01:13:03.000 He struggled for a while there.

01:13:05.000 You know what he did?

01:13:06.000 He figured there's a guy who broke down all his jujitsu on YouTube into four parts. 0.95

01:13:11.000 It's pretty fucking interesting.

01:13:12.000 You go through his early decisions on the ground to the decisions he's making now. 0.96

01:13:19.000 He has got this path.

01:13:22.000 The passes that he's using now, he kind of tripods and it's kind of like a smash pass.

01:13:29.000 He gets to top half.

01:13:32.000 He knows that if he just hovers over, keeps his head on his opponent's chest, and he's pinning him down, and he gets to top half.

01:13:40.000 He doesn't even need to pass, and then he turns.

01:13:43.000 He's not taking any damage.

01:13:44.000 Then he goes to three-quarter mount, and then from there he throws a couple punches.

01:13:47.000 The guy gives him his back because in three-quarter mount you basically already have a hook in.

01:13:53.000 He's figured out this path, nice and simple.

01:13:55.000 There's so many things you can do as a jiu-jitsu black belt to pass your first initial move.

01:14:00.000 There's all these passes.

01:14:02.000 He has chosen the passes.

01:14:06.000 To the mount and to the back, that path is the best path in MMA. He's 38 too, right?

01:14:13.000 39. He's 39. 38 or 39, I'm not sure.

01:14:16.000 If he's smart, if I'm his management, and people get mad when I do this shit, but he's not fighting anyone until he gets a title shot. 0.96

01:14:23.000 Six in a row, you don't fight anyone. 0.95

01:14:25.000 Well, you know what's really interesting?

01:14:26.000 Jake Shields beat him, and he out-grappled him.

01:14:28.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:28.000 Yeah.

01:14:29.000 Look at the list Jake Shields beat. 0.98

01:14:30.000 Don't ever forget how goddamn good Jake Shields is. 0.89

01:14:32.000 And he just submitted Leota Machida, by the way, in a grappling competition. 0.97

01:14:35.000 And he beat Woodley.

01:14:37.000 He beat Woodley.

01:14:39.000 You know, he's beat everyone.

01:14:40.000 Look at the top five guys.

01:14:41.000 Jake Shields beat him.

01:14:43.000 Didn't he fight Robbie Lawler and beat Robbie?

01:14:45.000 He beat Robbie, yeah.

01:14:46.000 Submitted him.

01:14:47.000 Standing guillotine.

01:14:48.000 Jumped up, grabbed ahold of his neck, and Robbie was like, um, what's this?

01:14:51.000 This is a world-class squeeze, son.

01:14:54.000 This is a vegan squeeze.

01:14:56.000 Look at what Maya's doing on his back. 0.91

01:14:58.000 What Maya's doing on his back, there's a million things you can do.

01:15:01.000 There's all these styles.

01:15:02.000 He's keeping it nice and simple.

01:15:05.000 All Damon Maya is looking for when he's on his back is the underhook.

01:15:09.000 Everything is a setup to the underhook.

01:15:11.000 He gets in a Z-guard.

01:15:13.000 He times the punch.

01:15:14.000 As soon as you throw a right punch, he shoots in.

01:15:16.000 He has a Z-guard, then he shoots in, grabs the underhook, and either gets on top and they stand, just like Chuck Liddell used to do with the underhook, or he uses that to sweep him like he'll get into dogfight and he'll go through him.

01:15:27.000 He keeps it simple.

01:15:29.000 When I see a guy like him, I want to see him fight a guy who's a world-class jiu-jitsu guy with a wicked guard.

01:15:34.000 Like a Braulio Estima.

01:15:36.000 Like someone who's nasty off of his back.

01:15:39.000 You want to see Damien?

01:15:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:42.000 He's going to do the exact same path, whether the guy knows jiu-jitsu or not.

01:15:45.000 The path that he's chosen, from the bottom and from the top, no matter who he's going with, that's the best path.

01:15:52.000 When there's no gi, when there's punches, when there's elbows, Damien Maia is just...

01:15:57.000 Just dwindled everything down, keeping it nice and simple.

01:16:00.000 On his back, it's just the underhook.

01:16:03.000 I'm sure he would do it, but my question is, would he be able to execute that kind of a strategy against a guy like Braulio Esteeman?

01:16:10.000 It would be harder.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, that's why I want to see it.

01:16:12.000 I want to see what a guy with a world-class guard.

01:16:15.000 Braulio does a lot of weird stuff, too.

01:16:16.000 He's got that triangle that he does, that underneath triangle.

01:16:20.000 You know that weird backwards triangle he does?

01:16:22.000 Is he doing MMA? Yeah, he's doing MMA. He's doing some fights.

01:16:25.000 Yeah, he's doing some fights. 1.00

01:16:26.000 Holy shit. 0.99

01:16:27.000 When I watch someone like Damian Maia, because I don't have that much of a trained eye, it doesn't look like he's doing anything different than everybody else when he takes your back or when he's on top of you and he's controlling you. 0.98

01:16:38.000 And what's interesting is the subtlety of jiu-jitsu on that level that unless you have a cultivated eye...

01:16:44.000 It just looks like he's wearing him like a sweater.

01:16:47.000 He's controlling the arm.

01:16:48.000 He's coming in.

01:16:49.000 He somehow gets that figure four around his stomach.

01:16:52.000 But there's no way you're getting that dude off.

01:16:54.000 You're not getting him off.

01:16:55.000 And why?

01:16:56.000 Someone like Carlos Kanda can't even get him off.

01:16:58.000 And Carlos Kanda is experienced as anybody.

01:17:00.000 And that's where that level of mastery is so subtle and almost invisible.

01:17:05.000 It's hard to see unless you really know what the hell he's doing.

01:17:08.000 Because a lot of it seems to be like where he's putting his weight, those little differences, how he's countering, how he's predicting what you're going to do before you do it.

01:17:15.000 Well, that path that Maya is on, the techniques that he's putting together, the treasure map that he's on, Carlos Condit probably wasn't getting someone on a daily basis at a high level hitting him with that specific path.

01:17:33.000 Those moves that he chose, that he strung together, nice and simple, nice and tight.

01:17:39.000 And, you know, you gotta prepare for something as simple as that.

01:17:43.000 You gotta prepare for someone coming at you exactly like that.

01:17:47.000 Because everything that Maya chooses, all those positions are the best positions for MMA. No doubt.

01:17:54.000 He's got a path.

01:17:55.000 He's figured it out.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, he's figured out the path.

01:17:57.000 There's a million moves, but he's got the path, and it's the same shit he's doing over and over.

01:18:02.000 You know, I want to see guys like, you know, Rafael Lovato is now getting into MMA, and he's had a few MMA fights outside of the UFC. He's going to do well. 0.56

01:18:12.000 He's going to smash guys.

01:18:13.000 It's a very similar style.

01:18:14.000 That top, heavy pressure just grinds, it smashes, and squishes you.

01:18:20.000 It's all about those moves.

01:18:20.000 One position or the next, like these small, methodical, one position.

01:18:23.000 His chest is on you.

01:18:24.000 He's so heavy.

01:18:25.000 It's all Hicks and Gracie lineage.

01:18:26.000 Hicks and Gracie, Salo Hibero, and he's with Salo.

01:18:29.000 It's like that old-school, solid jiu-jitsu. 0.98

01:18:34.000 Like, that fucking scary, perfect-based jiu-jitsu. 0.96

01:18:37.000 It's really more the specific... 1.00

01:18:39.000 You can't breathe.

01:18:41.000 It's the specific moves that he's choosing.

01:18:43.000 It's how he's doing...

01:18:45.000 It's not like he could have picked...

01:18:46.000 Are you talking about Damian?

01:18:48.000 I'm talking about Maia.

01:18:48.000 We're talking about Rafael Lovato.

01:18:50.000 So he does have that smashing, high-level jiu-jitsu, but there have been a bunch of high-level jiu-jitsu guys trying to transition into the UFC. The problem is they're not selecting the moves that Damian Maia is selecting.

01:19:04.000 Everybody in MMA right now, if you're not studying, if you're in the UFC, And you are not studying exactly the moves that Damien Maia has chosen and the path, it's all laid out for you.

01:19:17.000 That's the path you need to get on.

01:19:19.000 There's a lot of different jujitsu techniques, a lot of different styles of playing guard, different guard passing styles. 0.93

01:19:25.000 There's all this shit you can decide to do in the mountain, three-quarter mountain, all these decisions. 0.88

01:19:30.000 Damien Maia's making all the right decisions. 1.00

01:19:32.000 If you're not studying his shit, I mean, there's something wrong with you and your coach. 0.99

01:19:36.000 Look how long it took Damien to get there. 1.00

01:19:37.000 He went through some shit to figure out himself as a fighter. 0.98

01:19:40.000 There's an evolution. 0.99

01:19:42.000 He wasn't choosing that exact path early on.

01:19:44.000 He was trying to stand too much.

01:19:46.000 On the bottom, he was always about the underhook from his early days.

01:19:50.000 But what he changed is he doesn't sit...

01:19:52.000 When he's on top, he never sits into...

01:19:54.000 A Z half guard. 1.00

01:19:56.000 He calls it headquarters.

01:19:57.000 He doesn't sit into that anymore because when he wants people to sit into Z guard when he's on bottom, because from there he just waits for you to throw a right punch and he times it. 0.69

01:20:07.000 He shoots for the underhook because you just left a big ass opening and from there he gets to dogfight.

01:20:12.000 That's all he's waiting for. 0.71

01:20:13.000 So he doesn't want to do that because he knows that that's actually the wrong thing to do.

01:20:17.000 So he tripods when he's in that headquarter position and he gets up and he drives his head down and then he maneuvers his way into top half and then he turns towards it.

01:20:27.000 It's really simple.

01:20:28.000 It's not like he's mixing it up.

01:20:31.000 Right. 1.00

01:20:31.000 He knows the best shit in MMA. He's doing the same path over and over and over again. 1.00

01:20:35.000 You know who else is in the MMA recently?

01:20:37.000 I just found out that Tiffany Van Hoos, the Tiffany Time Bomb. 0.98

01:20:40.000 She fights in Invicta, I think, next week or two weeks.

01:20:42.000 Is it her first MMA fight?

01:20:44.000 I think so.

01:20:45.000 It's her first MMA fight.

01:20:46.000 Was she a Jiu-Jitsu?

01:20:48.000 No.

01:20:48.000 Muay Thai.

01:20:48.000 World champion.

01:20:49.000 World champ Muay Thai. 0.95

01:20:51.000 Nasty. 0.98

01:20:52.000 Nasty. 0.99

01:20:53.000 Nasty. 1.00

01:20:54.000 Little tiny girl. 0.99

01:20:55.000 She's 115, right?

01:20:56.000 115, yeah.

01:20:57.000 But when you look at the women's division, she's going to be in the UFC. C-C-C-C. Quick! 1.00

01:21:01.000 Knocking bitches out, too. 1.00

01:21:03.000 Tana's fucked. 1.00

01:21:03.000 If she can avoid the takedown, it's going to be interesting. 1.00

01:21:06.000 She's a great base. 0.78

01:21:09.000 She's in Joanna's division.

01:21:10.000 That's what I'm saying, yeah.

01:21:11.000 Jamie, bring her up for a sec. 0.72

01:21:12.000 Let me see your Tiffany time moments. 0.63

01:21:13.000 Isn't it crazy that just maybe four years ago, women being huge in the UFC was... 1.00

01:21:20.000 I mean, most people thought that would never happen.

01:21:22.000 Good-looking woman, too.

01:21:23.000 Yeah, she's beautiful. 0.87

01:21:25.000 She's beautiful.

01:21:25.000 She's a world champion Muay Thai, and she...

01:21:28.000 I think she lives in Bali, but then she does her camps out here.

01:21:31.000 She's doing it right, man.

01:21:33.000 She's badass. 1.00

01:21:34.000 Badass. 0.99

01:21:34.000 Have you seen her on AXS TV just knocking bitches out left and right? 0.99

01:21:37.000 Yeah, all the time. 0.96

01:21:38.000 And with little gloves, it's going to be very interesting.

01:21:40.000 And I think she's training at Alliance down there, too.

01:21:43.000 Is she?

01:21:44.000 Part of it.

01:21:44.000 Good move.

01:21:45.000 She has her same striking coach for Muay Thai, but then I think she's doing some at Alliance. 0.99

01:21:49.000 There's just going to be a level of technique that she has that most girls just are not going to be able to hang with. 1.00

01:21:54.000 She has such a big advantage.

01:21:56.000 Except for Joanna. 0.98

01:21:58.000 Juana's pretty fucking high level, dude. 1.00

01:22:00.000 I agree, but let Tiff get a few fights, then you got yourself a real barn burner. 0.95

01:22:03.000 Because everyone else in that division can't even match up with a striking-wise.

01:22:08.000 Tiff can. 0.76

01:22:09.000 Yeah.

01:22:09.000 Yeah, there's a lot of dangerous kickboxing women that are coming over now, like Valentina Shevchenko.

01:22:15.000 You see when she fought Holly Holm? 0.63

01:22:17.000 No, she's fighting in the UFC. She beat Holly Holm. 0.99

01:22:19.000 Do you know who I'm talking about in Bellator, the chicken in Bellator?

01:22:21.000 No, but Valentina, when you see all her years of Muay Thai experience at a world championship level, when she fights someone like Holly, you get to see that. 0.99

01:22:28.000 You're like, oh, there's levels to this shit. 0.99

01:22:30.000 Plus they've been there. 1.00

01:22:31.000 Yeah, that check hook that you kept nailing it with, that check right hook.

01:22:35.000 Holly got rattled early in the first round. 1.00

01:22:37.000 You realize the timing is very different for someone who's that good.

01:22:40.000 Plus those girls that come from that super high-level background of striking with boxing, Muay Thai, whatever it is. 1.00

01:22:47.000 You don't really see women come from a high-level background other than those two.

01:22:51.000 The ones that do, I have such...

01:22:53.000 Some of them.

01:22:54.000 Mackenzie Dern, she's in now.

01:22:56.000 Yeah, but there's someone in the UFC with high-level jiu-jitsu who's killing it.

01:22:58.000 Well, she's not in it yet, but I mean, there's women out there. 1.00

01:23:01.000 She had one fight.

01:23:02.000 Mackenzie Dern, yeah.

01:23:03.000 I'm not saying in the UFC, yeah.

01:23:05.000 I'm just saying, Joe...

01:23:08.000 From history with women's fighting, usually they come from that high-level striking background. 1.00

01:23:12.000 They have such an advantage because they've been in the live fire.

01:23:15.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:23:16.000 For sure. 1.00

01:23:16.000 So when they get in the UFC and they're fighting a girl who maybe she just likes to fight and do it all, when they fight these super high-level strikers, they're fucked, man. 1.00

01:23:23.000 Yep. 0.99

01:23:24.000 A lot of them.

01:23:25.000 That's why, you know, they're going to need that wrestling and that jiu-jitsu.

01:23:30.000 And another thing about Damon Mai is when he gets the back, a lot of people get the back in MMA, but he's on that Marcelo Garcia level, but when he gets your back, he knows how to close and he knows how to finish.

01:23:43.000 It takes so long to have that master.

01:23:46.000 Because anybody can get on the back and put the leg hooks in and then they've got the overrun fight. 0.99

01:23:50.000 But people, to be able to close that shit... 0.99

01:23:53.000 With gloves, it's tough. 1.00

01:23:55.000 It takes a while, and he got to the point.

01:23:57.000 Now, in the beginning, he probably wasn't really known for taking people's backs and choking them really, really easily.

01:24:03.000 It took a while, but now, man, when he gets your back, it's very hard to escape.

01:24:10.000 Unless you're high level.

01:24:11.000 Unless you're already at a black belt.

01:24:13.000 But, you know, he gets...

01:24:14.000 Carlos is a black belt.

01:24:15.000 Yeah.

01:24:16.000 Different...

01:24:17.000 Levels. 0.83

01:24:17.000 How many rear naked chokes has Damian Maia gotten? 0.83

01:24:20.000 Six. 0.97

01:24:20.000 The record's seven. 0.97

01:24:21.000 The record's seven with Kenny Florian.

01:24:23.000 It's not just that.

01:24:24.000 It's like when he gets to that position, you doesn't even have to get under your chin. 1.00

01:24:27.000 He just squeezes your fucking head. 1.00

01:24:29.000 All that shit is in the jaw. 1.00

01:24:30.000 That's what it's all about. 1.00

01:24:32.000 Closing the deal.

01:24:32.000 Making you tap.

01:24:33.000 He knows how to make you tap.

01:24:35.000 Yeah.

01:24:36.000 Somebody played an interesting video, they sent it to me on Twitter, of one of Hickson's black belts in Australia.

01:24:43.000 This guy's doing this demonstration with a rear naked choke, and he was saying that the rear naked choke is all about the legs.

01:24:49.000 And so he's got the rear naked choke on and just using his legs, obviously like stretching the body out, but applying pressure just with his legs.

01:24:57.000 And he was like, that's what the rear naked choke's all about.

01:25:00.000 I'm like...

01:25:00.000 Man, I see what you're doing, and I think that is definitely...

01:25:05.000 It's huge.

01:25:06.000 It adds pressure.

01:25:07.000 It adds power.

01:25:08.000 But to me, I think the most important thing is the squeeze.

01:25:11.000 All of it.

01:25:12.000 Every ounce of your body is perfect.

01:25:14.000 Everything's got to be perfect.

01:25:15.000 Your butt, your hips, your shoulders, your neck. 0.55

01:25:18.000 Everything has to be perfect. 0.91

01:25:19.000 That's a high-level squeeze.

01:25:21.000 It's everything.

01:25:22.000 Like Gary Tonin.

01:25:24.000 Didn't he win EBI? He got a rear-naked choke with no hooks in.

01:25:28.000 If you got a world-class squeeze and you get a clean angle on the neck, if it's clean and deep and you're under the chin, you don't need the leg hooks no more.

01:25:43.000 I forget who he did that to, but he did that in EBI 5. It was fucking awesome. 0.90

01:25:47.000 I forget who he did it to, too. 0.95

01:25:48.000 So, the guy's right.

01:25:50.000 Legs definitely have a huge factor.

01:25:52.000 And when someone's got your back, and they have really...

01:25:55.000 You ever see when Toquino grappled with Mayhem Miller?

01:26:00.000 Yes.

01:26:00.000 Jesus Christ.

01:26:01.000 In a grappling match?

01:26:03.000 No, they were in Brazil.

01:26:04.000 It was in Brazil and England.

01:26:06.000 He was down there training, and Toquino just...

01:26:09.000 Well, I talked to Mayhem and I was like, hey, I was out partying the night before.

01:26:12.000 I was drunk.

01:26:13.000 It was probably totally true, you know?

01:26:15.000 100%.

01:26:15.000 But it didn't matter.

01:26:16.000 Tequino just took his back like a ghost.

01:26:19.000 Or took his arm.

01:26:20.000 No, I thought that was...

01:26:22.000 Salivaries took his arm.

01:26:23.000 It wasn't Tequino you're talking about.

01:26:25.000 It was Husamar Pajaras.

01:26:27.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:26:28.000 Yeah, Paul Harris.

01:26:29.000 Yeah, that's his nickname.

01:26:30.000 It means tree stump. 1.00

01:26:32.000 A guy like that, when they get your back with those giant ass legs that he has, when he's like squeezing down on your shit and stretching you out as he's choking you. 1.00

01:26:43.000 He's a fucking nut. 1.00

01:26:45.000 Did you see Gary Tonin against Taquino in Polaris? 1.00

01:26:49.000 Yes, yes.

01:26:50.000 You see that?

01:26:50.000 Amazing.

01:26:53.000 That's an example of one of those submission-only matches that ends up in a draw, but was amazing.

01:26:59.000 There's so many badass draws out there.

01:27:02.000 They're not all bad.

01:27:03.000 Just because it's a draw doesn't mean it...

01:27:06.000 Look at my draw with Cyborg.

01:27:08.000 To a guy like you, or you who could really appreciate the technique and sees what's going on.

01:27:12.000 Did you just say, look at my draw with Cyborg?

01:27:15.000 Obviously.

01:27:15.000 How dare you.

01:27:16.000 Obviously joking.

01:27:17.000 Obviously joking.

01:27:18.000 Obviously seeing who's paying attention.

01:27:20.000 You know what's crazy about this EBI coming up is one of the worst case scenarios people would come up to me and ask me about, and I would think about it too.

01:27:30.000 Would have someone won EBI? By escapes.

01:27:34.000 Got into overtime in every round and then won by quickest escape time.

01:27:39.000 Would that ruin the show? 0.98

01:27:40.000 And I thought, damn, I don't know. 0.98

01:27:42.000 But Eduardo Telles, he's a turtle guard master. 0.99

01:27:45.000 And turtle guard is just basically giving up your back.

01:27:47.000 So anybody who goes to turtle guard, very few people can do this.

01:27:50.000 They've got to have the best back defense ever if you're going to play turtle guard.

01:27:55.000 Right?

01:27:55.000 So he does.

01:27:56.000 And he's known that.

01:27:56.000 And he's known in the jiu-jitsu community.

01:27:58.000 He's a legend.

01:27:59.000 Legend at defense.

01:28:01.000 It's untappable, this guy, Eduardo Telles.

01:28:03.000 So he's doing EBI 8 next Sunday.

01:28:06.000 You can watch the Countdown Show on YouTube, EBI Countdown, EBI 8. He's on the Countdown Show talking about winning EBI on escapes.

01:28:16.000 Right?

01:28:16.000 That's crazy.

01:28:17.000 So now that's an actual real scenario that we're dealing with.

01:28:20.000 So instead of killing the show, now it's actually interesting to see if he could win the whole thing by escaping. 0.99

01:28:28.000 Look at this shit. 0.99

01:28:29.000 Ricardo Lamas versus BJ Penn, October 15th in Manila, Philippines. 1.00

01:28:33.000 Why do they do that to my boy BJ? Manila, Philippines.

01:28:35.000 Why not, man?

01:28:37.000 Let's see what's up.

01:28:37.000 That's a good fight right there.

01:28:38.000 Let's see what's up.

01:28:39.000 I keep thinking BJ's retired.

01:28:41.000 He's...

01:28:42.000 Well, BJ honestly should be fighting someone who is outside of the top 20 to get his timing back.

01:28:52.000 Let him fight Sam Punk. 0.98

01:28:53.000 But that said, BJ Penn is fucking BJ Penn. 0.98

01:28:56.000 And BJ Penn wants to fight the tough guys. 0.99

01:28:59.000 He can do whatever he wants.

01:29:00.000 And if he doesn't fight a guy who's super dangerous, he's probably not going to train as hard.

01:29:05.000 He's not going to get up for it.

01:29:07.000 So this is how BJ's kind of got to do it. 0.94

01:29:09.000 I fucking love BJ Penn. 0.98

01:29:10.000 It's smart. 0.99

01:29:11.000 Did Llamas call him out or something?

01:29:12.000 No.

01:29:13.000 How did that happen?

01:29:13.000 They just tossed him the Llamas.

01:29:16.000 He had a fight with, was it Bermudez?

01:29:19.000 Who was the fight he had scheduled with?

01:29:20.000 In LA, remember?

01:29:21.000 It wasn't Dennis Bermudez.

01:29:23.000 It wasn't Bermudez.

01:29:24.000 No, it wasn't Bermudez.

01:29:25.000 It was someone he had a fight scheduled with.

01:29:28.000 Nick Lentz?

01:29:29.000 No, it wasn't Nick Lentz because Nick Lentz is fighting at 155. There was some fight that got cancelled because BJ had taken an IV to rehydrate himself.

01:29:41.000 That was on the LA card, remember?

01:29:42.000 Yeah.

01:29:42.000 What was the fight?

01:29:43.000 Goddammit, who was it? 0.94

01:29:45.000 Anyway, so they had to give him another fight, and so the other fight they gave him is llamas.

01:29:50.000 Which is a tough fight for anybody. 0.99

01:29:52.000 They threw him to the fucking... 0.99

01:29:53.000 145. I mean, it's BJ Penn, what are you going to do, but still... 0.99

01:29:55.000 Apparently, his fighting stance is back to the old BJ, right?

01:30:00.000 Yeah.

01:30:00.000 Well, he went to Winklejohn, you know, in Brandon Gibson.

01:30:04.000 Is he there now?

01:30:04.000 Yeah, he's been training at Jackson's.

01:30:06.000 Here it goes.

01:30:07.000 What does it say?

01:30:08.000 Cole Miller at 199. Oh, Cole Miller.

01:30:10.000 See, Cole Miller's a real good fight.

01:30:12.000 That's a real good fight, too.

01:30:15.000 That's a real good fight.

01:30:16.000 Did he listen, man?

01:30:17.000 He did.

01:30:17.000 He went to...

01:30:17.000 Remember, people would say, what if BJ went to, like, Jackson?

01:30:21.000 Yeah.

01:30:21.000 What would happen then?

01:30:22.000 And he actually did it.

01:30:24.000 How cool is that? 0.99

01:30:24.000 He's BJ fucking Penn. 0.99

01:30:26.000 Don't ever forget that. 1.00

01:30:27.000 If that guy's body is willing, and he can figure out a way to motivate himself into awesome shape again, he is BJ motherfucking Penn. 0.96

01:30:34.000 He's the prodigy. 0.96

01:30:35.000 I think he should just focus on using his striking to take people down and just take him to the ground.

01:30:42.000 I think he's still one of the best on the ground.

01:30:45.000 You know who I don't want to see fight again?

01:30:46.000 And I hope for whatever reason contractual it doesn't happen is GSP, man.

01:30:50.000 His last like three or four fights he took so many hits to the head.

01:30:53.000 He has money in the bank.

01:30:55.000 The 70 pound division has completely changed now.

01:30:58.000 I just don't want to see it.

01:30:59.000 Maybe he's bored. 1.00

01:31:00.000 Yeah, he must be bored as fuck making like Kickboxer 2 and shit. 1.00

01:31:04.000 Yeah, and he did something with Seagal where Seagal kills him in some movie. 0.99

01:31:08.000 That would make me want to fucking get back to anything I was doing.

01:31:12.000 That video of Seagal with that, he's not been missing any meals. 0.92

01:31:16.000 Oh, he's so big now.

01:31:17.000 He's so big.

01:31:18.000 It's crazy. 1.00

01:31:20.000 He would fuck you guys. 1.00

01:31:21.000 He's this giant barrel of a chest. 1.00

01:31:24.000 He's got to be 100 pounds overweight.

01:31:26.000 Yeah.

01:31:27.000 It's really weird.

01:31:28.000 Because if you go back to Hard to Kill, like this first movie...

01:31:32.000 He's very thin.

01:31:32.000 Oh my god, he looked awesome.

01:31:33.000 I used to like him, man.

01:31:35.000 Under Siege 1 and 2?

01:31:36.000 Watch your mouth.

01:31:37.000 Plus he did a bunch of weird stuff that nobody had ever seen before.

01:31:40.000 A bunch of smacking...

01:31:41.000 It's like, if you go and watch Steven Seagal's earliest movie...

01:31:45.000 It was Hard to Kill, right?

01:31:47.000 No.

01:31:47.000 No, it was Justice.

01:31:49.000 Above the Law?

01:31:49.000 Above the Law, yeah.

01:31:50.000 Justice.

01:31:52.000 Above the Law is his first one.

01:31:54.000 It's fun to watch his fight scenes.

01:31:56.000 You're like, I'm kind of feeling this.

01:31:58.000 I feel like he could maybe pull this off.

01:32:01.000 You know? 0.99

01:32:01.000 He's kind of doing like Wing Chun, but he's smacking some fucking clotheslines on people and sweeping them off their feet and snapping arms and shit. 0.99

01:32:09.000 I think he's actually kind of a good actor, too. 0.99

01:32:11.000 Under Siege 1 and 2 is fucking brilliant. 0.93

01:32:14.000 Hard to Kill was great. 0.98

01:32:15.000 Who'd his face in 88?

01:32:17.000 In 88 above the law.

01:32:18.000 Handsome dude.

01:32:19.000 Dime piece in Hard to Kill.

01:32:20.000 And he was only probably 30 years old back then.

01:32:22.000 In that ponytail?

01:32:23.000 He had been teaching...

01:32:25.000 Aikido in Japan.

01:32:26.000 He was the first American to run a dojo in Japan.

01:32:29.000 Well, that's been contested. 1.00

01:32:32.000 Shut the fuck up, Brian. 1.00

01:32:33.000 Why are you ruining... 1.00

01:32:34.000 Sorry, buddy.

01:32:35.000 Sorry.

01:32:35.000 Look at him back then.

01:32:36.000 Look at the body.

01:32:37.000 Look at that knife.

01:32:38.000 But that's a body of a guy who actually knows martial arts.

01:32:43.000 Have you guys heard of that new Jean-Claude Van Damme show called Jean-Claude Van Johnson?

01:32:50.000 He plays himself.

01:32:51.000 Van Johnson?

01:32:52.000 You're talking about the reality show?

01:32:53.000 Dave Callahan wrote that.

01:32:54.000 My student who wrote Godzilla.

01:32:56.000 He has a show now.

01:32:58.000 It's on Amazon.

01:32:59.000 I don't even know, but Tate's in it too.

01:33:01.000 Really?

01:33:02.000 It's called Jean-Claude Van Johnson.

01:33:04.000 It's about Jean-Claude Van Damme is in it.

01:33:05.000 He plays himself.

01:33:07.000 And he's like this, like, washed up actor.

01:33:09.000 Like, he's just himself.

01:33:10.000 So it's a story about Jean-Claude Van Damme and he's playing himself but making fun of, like a parody?

01:33:15.000 Yeah.

01:33:15.000 It's kind of like that movie.

01:33:16.000 Goddamn times are rough. 0.99

01:33:17.000 I refuse to watch it. 0.97

01:33:18.000 I love Jean-Claude Van Damme. 0.99

01:33:19.000 It's supposed to be funny as shit. 0.97

01:33:20.000 Nope, can't do it. 0.99

01:33:22.000 Can't do it.

01:33:24.000 I remember him from Bloodsport.

01:33:29.000 Powerful Josh Barnett.

01:33:30.000 Still swinging. 0.99

01:33:31.000 God damn it. 1.00

01:33:32.000 That's a terrible picture. 1.00

01:33:32.000 Still throwing leather. 1.00

01:33:34.000 Tough fight to call, man.

01:33:35.000 Two vets.

01:33:36.000 Yeah.

01:33:37.000 USADA testing.

01:33:39.000 Germany.

01:33:40.000 Well, I mean, who would have ever predicted that Orlovsky would have gotten that close to a title shot again?

01:33:45.000 After all those years out, after getting starched by Sergei Karotanov, after getting beaten down by Rumble Johnson, to come back from all that, get back into the UFC and work his way to the top four...

01:33:59.000 Like, what?

01:34:00.000 Amazing. 0.99

01:34:00.000 How the fuck did he do that? 0.99

01:34:02.000 Went to Jackson's, got on a huge four or five fight win streak. 0.99

01:34:05.000 Amazing.

01:34:06.000 I mean, it's amazing.

01:34:07.000 When, like, a lot of people thought the Keratonoff fight, like, they're like, someone's got to step in.

01:34:11.000 Someone's got to stop this.

01:34:12.000 It's amazing the difference between his nose now and when he first started fighting.

01:34:16.000 Dude, do you know how many times this guy's been knocked out?

01:34:18.000 Like, if you really, like, went over, like, his entire career, I would like to find out. 0.99

01:34:22.000 Well, between him and Overeem, it's a goddamn... 0.97

01:34:25.000 And in training, I wonder. 0.98

01:34:27.000 Yeah, Overeem's had a lot of stoppage losses.

01:34:29.000 Overeem's had more than anyone.

01:34:30.000 Yeah, well, all the kickboxing losses, MMA losses, yeah.

01:34:35.000 Yeah, man.

01:34:36.000 A lot of these guys have been stopped a lot of times.

01:34:39.000 Andre's slim for this one.

01:34:40.000 He was like 136. Wow, his nose is flattened.

01:34:43.000 Look at his nose.

01:34:44.000 I know.

01:34:45.000 That's a guy who's been in some wars, man.

01:34:47.000 Who's been in as many slugfests as Arlovsky? 0.99

01:34:50.000 Damn. 0.99

01:34:51.000 Barnett. 1.00

01:34:52.000 Barnett has, yeah.

01:34:53.000 I mean, they're close.

01:34:54.000 But Andre's almost always in slugfests because he's a striker.

01:34:57.000 You know, he's not like trying to take someone down.

01:34:59.000 Has Josh Barnett been knocked out?

01:35:01.000 Yeah, he got knocked out.

01:35:03.000 Travis Brown elbows to the back of the head.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, real bad.

01:35:07.000 Before that, though, he has for sure.

01:35:09.000 And Rothwell just choked him out.

01:35:12.000 Rothwell caught him with that crazy ten-finger go-go guillotine. 0.80

01:35:16.000 Whatever he calls it, go-go guillotine, go-go choke.

01:35:19.000 There's so many different ways to put on that guillotine and they're all secretive because you can never see the grip and everyone has a certain way they hold the grip.

01:35:26.000 It's a hidden grip.

01:35:27.000 There's probably 13 different, at least, guillotines.

01:35:30.000 Orlovsky went old school with this pregame fight interview too.

01:35:34.000 He was talking about how when he was the UFC champ, Barnett was in pride saying how Orlovsky wasn't the real champ.

01:35:39.000 He was.

01:35:41.000 Yeah, but Josh Barnett was never the champ of pride.

01:35:43.000 15 years ago.

01:35:44.000 I know, but he was a runner-up.

01:35:47.000 When they were asking Barnett back then, he was like, UFC champ doesn't really count.

01:35:52.000 Orlowski's not the real champ. 0.99

01:35:53.000 Orlowski brought that shit back like an old elephant and didn't forget. 1.00

01:35:57.000 Wow. 1.00

01:35:57.000 He was like, excuse me, sir? 1.00

01:35:59.000 That was 20 years ago.

01:36:00.000 Like an old elephant.

01:36:01.000 Like an old Belarusian elephant.

01:36:03.000 It's another one.

01:36:04.000 If you look at him, he's 37. That's amazing that he was elite in the UFC in his early, early 20s.

01:36:11.000 And Josh Barnett's the youngest heavyweight champion ever.

01:36:13.000 Really?

01:36:14.000 Oh yeah.

01:36:14.000 When he beat Randy Couture, he became the youngest ever UFC heavyweight champion.

01:36:18.000 But then...

01:36:21.000 Didn't he get stripped?

01:36:23.000 He got stripped. 0.93

01:36:23.000 He pissed hot. 0.93

01:36:24.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:36:25.000 He pissed hot shit between him and over him. 1.00

01:36:27.000 It's a goddamn... 1.00

01:36:28.000 It's a goddamn MLB in the glory days. 1.00

01:36:32.000 Martin McGuire, Barry Bonds. 1.00

01:36:35.000 Two badasses, but they'll piss hot. 1.00

01:36:37.000 It would be interesting if Bellator just becomes like a P.E.D. league. 0.96

01:36:42.000 You mean pride?

01:36:42.000 Yeah, just P.E.D. league.

01:36:44.000 Just let him do whatever the fuck they want. 0.99

01:36:45.000 Well, Scott Coker said that. 0.99

01:36:46.000 He's like, our walkouts, we try to mimic pride.

01:36:49.000 I'm like, yeah, for sure.

01:36:49.000 Just let guys juice to the gill and do that.

01:36:52.000 Do you hate money, Mr. Coker?

01:36:53.000 Get some dry ice smoke.

01:36:55.000 Let him juice to the gills.

01:36:56.000 I mean, someone's got to explain to me Bobby Lashley.

01:37:00.000 Explain what?

01:37:01.000 Explain what's going on there.

01:37:03.000 How's that possible?

01:37:04.000 Why?

01:37:04.000 Can I see a picture, please?

01:37:06.000 You want to see Bobby Lashley B? Yeah, he's a very strong, powerful wrestler that is the cover boy for the smell test.

01:37:14.000 Well, that's the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life. 1.00

01:37:19.000 That is so ridiculous. 1.00

01:37:22.000 He's a tank. 1.00

01:37:22.000 Now, does he moonlight as a bodybuilder? 1.00

01:37:25.000 No, he used to be a WWE guy.

01:37:27.000 He still is.

01:37:27.000 Look at that.

01:37:27.000 Yeah, that's natural.

01:37:28.000 Those traps are all natural.

01:37:30.000 Is he fighting in Bellator looking like that?

01:37:32.000 Yep, yes.

01:37:33.000 Huh.

01:37:33.000 Yeah, show a picture of him in Bellator.

01:37:35.000 That's a lot of Dolce Weh.

01:37:38.000 Is he taking a lot of Dolce Weh?

01:37:40.000 Look at that picture of him.

01:37:41.000 Legit wrestler, though.

01:37:41.000 Look at him there in Bellator.

01:37:43.000 Look at the size of him in Bellator.

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:45.000 Yeah, now listen.

01:37:46.000 I mean, some people are just born super muscular. 0.99

01:37:50.000 But he only fights in funky places like Oklahoma, Indian casinos and shit. 0.99

01:37:55.000 Look at the size of them. 1.00

01:37:57.000 That's the craziest shit I've ever seen. 1.00

01:37:59.000 Look at the fucking size of them! 1.00

01:38:00.000 Hey, this is the thing. 1.00

01:38:02.000 The nicest guy in the world, obviously on some Mexican supplements, motherfucker can wrestle his ass off. 1.00

01:38:10.000 He's a monster. 1.00

01:38:11.000 Yeah, I can believe it. 0.99

01:38:12.000 Looking at him, I wouldn't say he's an accountant.

01:38:14.000 I would say he's a wrestler.

01:38:16.000 No, no, but it's not like CM Punk wrestling.

01:38:18.000 He has a legit wrestling background.

01:38:19.000 I believe that.

01:38:19.000 Yeah, in the military, he's champ.

01:38:21.000 And he's had a lot of fights.

01:38:22.000 I mean, he fought in Showtime for a while.

01:38:24.000 He's only had, I think, like eight or nine.

01:38:26.000 He's not that active.

01:38:27.000 Well, he fought in Strikeforce and lost to Chad Griggs, remember?

01:38:30.000 The Gravedigger?

01:38:31.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:38:31.000 The Gravedigger.

01:38:32.000 Yeah.

01:38:33.000 And that was a big setback for him. 0.99

01:38:35.000 Had to get his shit together again. 0.99

01:38:37.000 Start all over again. 0.99

01:38:38.000 Josh Barnett's body is an interesting...

01:38:40.000 You know who his training partner is?

01:38:42.000 Josh Barnett?

01:38:43.000 Bobby Lashley and Barnett train together all the time.

01:38:45.000 Makes sense.

01:38:46.000 Never seen Bobby Lashley taken out.

01:38:47.000 Ever.

01:38:48.000 Okay, prediction.

01:38:49.000 Arlovsky.

01:38:50.000 Barnett.

01:38:51.000 Barnett looks bigger than Arlowski.

01:38:53.000 That's a big man.

01:38:54.000 They're both giant.

01:38:55.000 Yep.

01:38:56.000 Barnett's heavier.

01:38:57.000 Arlowski's in better shape, I would assume.

01:38:59.000 But, uh...

01:39:00.000 Barnett's got a lot of options.

01:39:02.000 Yeah, Barnett, he's like a smart guy.

01:39:04.000 He has too many options.

01:39:05.000 He has a lot of options.

01:39:06.000 And Arlowski, his only option is to knock him out.

01:39:09.000 Oh, he tagged him!

01:39:10.000 Barnett with a right hand over the top.

01:39:11.000 Oh! 0.60

01:39:12.000 Oh! 0.60

01:39:13.000 Oh, shit! 1.00

01:39:14.000 What's going on here? 1.00

01:39:16.000 Oh, my God.

01:39:16.000 Hey, guys.

01:39:17.000 Oh! 1.00

01:39:18.000 What the fuck? 1.00

01:39:20.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:39:21.000 Are we all out of our minds here? 1.00

01:39:22.000 Couple one-two oldies fucking slaying in the mood. 1.00

01:39:24.000 Guys, Barnett just took a big deep breath. 1.00

01:39:27.000 And by oldies, 12 years younger than me and Joe.

01:39:29.000 Barnett is saying something.

01:39:31.000 Barnett is saying something.

01:39:34.000 What is he saying?

01:39:35.000 Was he grabbing my gloves?

01:39:36.000 I don't know.

01:39:36.000 He's saying he's grabbing my gloves.

01:39:37.000 He's grabbing my gloves.

01:39:38.000 Oh, is that what he's saying?

01:39:39.000 I think so.

01:39:40.000 Wow, man. 0.98

01:39:41.000 And the ref said, let's shut up and fight. 1.00

01:39:43.000 I think that's what he said.

01:39:44.000 Did he say that? 0.98

01:39:44.000 Shut up and fight? 0.98

01:39:45.000 I don't think he said shut up. 0.99

01:39:46.000 He said, let's just fight.

01:39:47.000 Wow. 1.00

01:39:49.000 Holy fuck, these boys ain't messing around. 1.00

01:39:51.000 Wow. 0.99

01:39:53.000 When Arlossi does do this, he's usually at his best.

01:39:56.000 Like when you think about Travis Brown, we just caution him the wind.

01:39:58.000 Yeah, but Barnett is good at controlling the pace here when he gets a hold of you like this.

01:40:02.000 This is going to sap some of the strength.

01:40:03.000 He's got such wide hips, he's just so strong.

01:40:05.000 He's a tank of a guy.

01:40:08.000 Super skilled too, man.

01:40:10.000 Oh, caught him on the break.

01:40:12.000 Ooh, someone's about to get knocked out.

01:40:13.000 Get ready, boys.

01:40:15.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:40:15.000 Marlowski's bleeding hardcore.

01:40:18.000 What a tough way to make a living.

01:40:19.000 Big right hand coming from Marlowski.

01:40:20.000 What a tough way to make a living.

01:40:21.000 Oh, Jesus.

01:40:22.000 Oh.

01:40:22.000 Don't listen to that.

01:40:23.000 Left hook from Barnett coming up.

01:40:26.000 This is intense.

01:40:27.000 Someone's going to sleep real soon.

01:40:29.000 Oh. 1.00

01:40:30.000 Damn, attack that body. 1.00

01:40:33.000 Oh. 1.00

01:40:35.000 There's like a...

01:40:36.000 There's like a weird way that Arlovsky throws his right hand.

01:40:40.000 Have you noticed that?

01:40:41.000 Almost like a whipping action from the hips. 0.97

01:40:46.000 He doesn't throw it the way he threw it when he was young.

01:40:49.000 No, not at all.

01:40:50.000 Arlovsky painted his nails.

01:40:51.000 Arlovsky painted his toenails. 1.00

01:40:53.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

01:40:54.000 I won't. 1.00

01:40:54.000 Look at that. 1.00

01:40:55.000 Don't bring it up.

01:40:56.000 Sorry, sorry.

01:40:56.000 He's a warlock.

01:40:57.000 He's a fucking warlock and I knew it. 1.00

01:40:59.000 That's what a bad motherfucker Chuck Liddell is. 1.00

01:41:01.000 He had everybody painting their goddamn toenails. 1.00

01:41:02.000 He really did. 1.00

01:41:04.000 And no one said shit. 0.99

01:41:06.000 I'm not saying shit. 0.99

01:41:07.000 I just made an observation. 0.97

01:41:09.000 They all wind up doing it.

01:41:10.000 He sacrificed a goat to Satan last night, and that's why he had...

01:41:15.000 Erlowski with the takedown!

01:41:16.000 Look at this!

01:41:18.000 Erlowski with the takedown!

01:41:19.000 See, I like Erlowski putting Barnett on his back.

01:41:21.000 Barnett's not a guy who parties off his back very much.

01:41:24.000 He doesn't party off his back, guys.

01:41:26.000 He doesn't.

01:41:27.000 I wonder.

01:41:27.000 Only on top.

01:41:28.000 I wonder if he's got some shit off his back. 1.00

01:41:29.000 I mean, I'm sure he's capable. 1.00

01:41:31.000 Uh-oh, watch that! 0.98

01:41:32.000 Come on, son.

01:41:33.000 He went for a double wrist lock from the bottom.

01:41:35.000 I went for that bully beatdown double wrist lock.

01:41:37.000 I wonder what he was going to do there with that.

01:41:38.000 Look at this.

01:41:39.000 Look at the blood coming down.

01:41:40.000 He doesn't care.

01:41:41.000 That's a headbutt blood.

01:41:42.000 Look at that.

01:41:43.000 Go ahead.

01:41:44.000 Give me a charley horse.

01:41:46.000 This is an interesting fight, man.

01:41:47.000 Hold that ankle. 0.90

01:41:48.000 This is an interesting fight.

01:41:49.000 Barnett on his back.

01:41:50.000 Arloski needs to watch his legs here. 1.00

01:41:51.000 Can you just punch him in the dick? 1.00

01:41:52.000 He needs to watch his legs here, man. 1.00

01:41:55.000 If there's one thing Barnett does know, it's fucking leg locks down here. 0.98

01:41:58.000 I think you forget the Sambo background of Andre Arlovski. 0.99

01:42:02.000 I didn't.

01:42:03.000 Remember when he got, what's his name, Tim Sylvia in that, uh...

01:42:07.000 Mm-hmm.

01:42:07.000 Got him in a straight ankle lock.

01:42:09.000 I think you forget about that fucking... 0.99

01:42:11.000 Dude, I think Josh Barnett just played a little De La Riva guard for one split second. 1.00

01:42:16.000 Like, watch.

01:42:17.000 Barnett is thicker than a Snickers right now.

01:42:19.000 Just a vanilla Snickers. 1.00

01:42:21.000 Doing the damn thing. 1.00

01:42:22.000 Big man. 1.00

01:42:23.000 Look at that.

01:42:23.000 Oh.

01:42:25.000 And their bolster skin.

01:42:27.000 This is the veteran.

01:42:28.000 Let's rest.

01:42:29.000 You rest, I rest.

01:42:30.000 Oh, is that what it is?

01:42:30.000 Okay.

01:42:31.000 Yeah, that's the veteran.

01:42:31.000 I'm going to rest.

01:42:32.000 You rest.

01:42:33.000 I like it.

01:42:33.000 Couple one-two old butts.

01:42:34.000 Keep the hands up, please. 0.93

01:42:35.000 Somebody?

01:42:36.000 All of you?

01:42:37.000 Barnett looks tired.

01:42:38.000 I mean, uh...

01:42:38.000 Jesus Christ.

01:42:40.000 These guys just clash heads, man.

01:42:43.000 Gigantesque. 0.98

01:42:44.000 Gigante, man.

01:42:50.000 Combination by Arlovski.

01:42:52.000 Josh Barnett's so tough though.

01:42:54.000 He looks fine.

01:42:55.000 Josh Barnett looks fine.

01:42:56.000 Someone's going to sleep!

01:42:58.000 Barnett switched stances.

01:43:02.000 Was he standing orthodox earlier?

01:43:05.000 He was, right?

01:43:06.000 Yeah, he switches.

01:43:09.000 Interesting.

01:43:10.000 I wonder...

01:43:13.000 Does Orlowski always have black nail polish?

01:43:15.000 No.

01:43:16.000 First time.

01:43:17.000 Get over it, bro.

01:43:18.000 It's a great fight. 1.00

01:43:20.000 Fuck his nail polish. 1.00

01:43:20.000 Bro, I'm just saying, man. 1.00

01:43:21.000 I'm allowed to make an observation.

01:43:25.000 God, you're white, Josh. 1.00

01:43:27.000 Let's get a tan. 0.50

01:43:27.000 You're whiter than I am. 0.50

01:43:28.000 No, you can't tan.

01:43:29.000 That would look weird on him.

01:43:30.000 He'd look pink.

01:43:31.000 He just turns pink, right?

01:43:32.000 He'd be red.

01:43:33.000 He'd get all red. 1.00

01:43:34.000 Come out there like a red fucking pickle. 1.00

01:43:37.000 Yeah, a fucking giant pickle. 1.00

01:43:39.000 A red pickle? 1.00

01:43:40.000 I don't know why I even said pickle.

01:43:41.000 Like a lobster. 1.00

01:43:42.000 Yeah, you big fucking blonde lobster. 1.00

01:43:45.000 Josh is giving up the neck. 1.00

01:43:47.000 He's like, go ahead, take it.

01:43:48.000 Yeah, our lobster's not known for those.

01:43:50.000 Want to get crazy? 0.90

01:43:51.000 Pull the guillotine off. 1.00

01:43:54.000 Wow.

01:43:55.000 I would never think that Josh would lean in on anybody like that ever again after that Travis Brown fight.

01:44:01.000 Well, the thing about that is Travis is so good at him because of his leverage, how tall he is.

01:44:05.000 Oh, Jesus!

01:44:07.000 Oh my goodness.

01:44:08.000 I mean, flash knockouts on both ends here.

01:44:10.000 Oof! 1.00

01:44:11.000 Great takedown.

01:44:13.000 I think Travis is the only one who can pull off those elbows because he's so tall.

01:44:16.000 Maybe. 0.98

01:44:17.000 Well, he's also just explosive as fuck with them in that position. 0.99

01:44:21.000 That's his spot. 0.99

01:44:23.000 He did it to Gonzaga and then he did it to Barnett.

01:44:27.000 Yo.

01:44:27.000 You're on the air.

01:44:29.000 We're doing the Fight Companion.

01:44:32.000 Already?

01:44:33.000 Joe Diaz!

01:44:34.000 Well, Joey, it's like one, two.

01:44:37.000 You're not watching the UFC on Fight Pass?

01:44:40.000 No, I'm doing my own UFC. I just got back to Jiu-Jitsu, bitch. 1.00

01:44:44.000 Fuck Fight Pass. 1.00

01:44:46.000 I just did my own. 1.00

01:44:47.000 I got choked out eight times. 1.00

01:44:49.000 I just did my own fucking Jiu-Jitsu. 0.99

01:44:52.000 Beautiful. 0.99

01:44:52.000 I just got Luke Barnett. 0.99

01:44:54.000 Everybody choked me out today.

01:44:56.000 Nice.

01:44:57.000 We're at Legacy?

01:44:59.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:01.000 I did a little better today, to be honest with you.

01:45:03.000 Round two.

01:45:04.000 Dude, after a minute rest.

01:45:05.000 I did a little better today.

01:45:06.000 Hey, the fight's...

01:45:07.000 Oh! 0.60

01:45:08.000 You've got to watch that overhand right.

01:45:10.000 Keep telling Orlovsky that.

01:45:12.000 All right, do your thing.

01:45:12.000 I'm sorry, brother.

01:45:13.000 I saw you call me earlier.

01:45:14.000 You know I love you.

01:45:15.000 Okay, I'll call you right back.

01:45:16.000 Keep your head in his chin. 1.00

01:45:19.000 When I teach clinch, I always say, use your fucking head, spear the chin. 1.00

01:45:25.000 When you what? 1.00

01:45:26.000 Huh?

01:45:26.000 When I do a clinch clinic, I call it the clinch clinic with the kid.

01:45:32.000 Nobody ever comes, but if somebody did, I would always say, use your head. 0.98

01:45:37.000 I cannot get anybody to fucking come, and I have something to say. 0.97

01:45:40.000 He puts on a message board. 0.98

01:45:42.000 There's going to be a clinch clinic with the kid.

01:45:45.000 Piece of paper with a bunch of things you can rip off that have the phone number on.

01:45:49.000 Just one ripped off and he ripped it off himself.

01:45:52.000 I put it up on phone polls.

01:45:55.000 I put it up on phone polls.

01:45:56.000 And nobody calls.

01:45:57.000 Nobody calls. 1.00

01:45:58.000 I can't get anybody in my fucking clinics, man. 0.99

01:46:00.000 I have cupcakes and Kool-Aid for everybody. 0.99

01:46:04.000 How's this not a five-rounder?

01:46:06.000 Right, Brendan?

01:46:07.000 Because they're old. 1.00

01:46:08.000 I don't give a fuck! 1.00

01:46:10.000 Isn't every main event five rounds? 0.99

01:46:12.000 Is it a five-rounder?

01:46:13.000 It might be.

01:46:14.000 Oh, it is.

01:46:15.000 It is.

01:46:15.000 Sorry.

01:46:16.000 The fucking reindeer thing was blocking on us all three. 0.99

01:46:19.000 The reindeer thing. 1.00

01:46:20.000 Did you guys see that thing where those fucking reindeer, 300 of them... 1.00

01:46:24.000 Got electrocuted to death. 0.99

01:46:26.000 Was it 300 of them?

01:46:27.000 Jesus Christ.

01:46:27.000 Is that how many it was?

01:46:28.000 What?

01:46:28.000 Why do I want to say it's 40?

01:46:30.000 Oh, you've got to keep your hands up.

01:46:31.000 323?

01:46:33.000 323 reindeer got electrocuted to death.

01:46:35.000 They were all standing in water.

01:46:37.000 Lightning hit the ground.

01:46:38.000 What?

01:46:38.000 The ground was soaked with water, so they all got barbecued instantly.

01:46:42.000 No.

01:46:42.000 Instantly.

01:46:43.000 Dude.

01:46:43.000 Boy, these boys are throwing.

01:46:45.000 Hundreds of them. 1.00

01:46:45.000 Those poor fucking reindeer. 1.00

01:46:47.000 That's crazy. 1.00

01:46:48.000 Oh, fuck. 1.00

01:46:50.000 It was harp. 1.00

01:46:51.000 So can you just go there and eat them?

01:46:52.000 Can you go there and eat them?

01:46:54.000 Well, it depends on how cold it is.

01:46:57.000 You know, if it was right afterwards, yeah, definitely.

01:47:00.000 So that could have happened to us when we were hunting, technically.

01:47:02.000 It technically could happen, yeah.

01:47:04.000 Because the ground's all wet.

01:47:05.000 So it's connective. 0.99

01:47:07.000 So this shit shouldn't be happening all the time. 0.99

01:47:09.000 It could happen. 1.00

01:47:10.000 Well, we got rubber boots on, though. 0.98

01:47:11.000 Yeah, we have rubber boots on, and also we're not fucking reindeer. 0.98

01:47:15.000 Yep. 0.98

01:47:15.000 God likes me more than he likes reindeers. 0.98

01:47:17.000 They're called caribou.

01:47:18.000 I call them caribou.

01:47:19.000 Yep.

01:47:20.000 They're delicious animals.

01:47:21.000 If you were there and you came right after the fact, you'd be psyched.

01:47:25.000 Because you'd have all the meat.

01:47:26.000 You wouldn't want it to go to waste.

01:47:28.000 I agree.

01:47:29.000 So it's not even like you feel bad for shooting the caribou.

01:47:32.000 If you're starving in the wilderness.

01:47:34.000 When you post those Instagram videos of grilling that fine, fine, wild meat, I gotta get hungry.

01:47:40.000 It's my favorite thing to cook.

01:47:40.000 I'm starving right now.

01:47:42.000 I cooked some last night.

01:47:43.000 I will say that one you did with the jalapenos. 1.00

01:47:45.000 Yeah, that's my shit, dog. 1.00

01:47:47.000 Dude, I'm telling you, I know you're scared of... 1.00

01:47:50.000 Eddie grew up with a fucked up stepfather, so he's got some crazy food issues because his stepdad used to force him to eat food. 0.98

01:47:56.000 So Eddie's like, meat, potatoes, stop! 0.99

01:47:58.000 Don't get crazy!

01:47:59.000 You don't eat meat or potatoes?

01:48:01.000 No, no, he's super down the middle.

01:48:04.000 I don't like gamey meat.

01:48:06.000 That's how my brother is.

01:48:07.000 Elk is not gamey.

01:48:09.000 That's the thing, man.

01:48:10.000 I'm telling you.

01:48:10.000 It's like if you like Fogo de Chao, you like when they come over, it doesn't taste like that because it's got more firmness to it.

01:48:18.000 Oh, good reversal by Barnett!

01:48:20.000 It's on now.

01:48:22.000 Oh, this is not good.

01:48:22.000 This is not good for Arlovsky.

01:48:24.000 This is terrible.

01:48:25.000 Barnett is a smusher.

01:48:26.000 Look at that.

01:48:27.000 Instant pass.

01:48:28.000 Full mount.

01:48:29.000 Grapevine.

01:48:30.000 Old school.

01:48:30.000 Catch wrestling style.

01:48:31.000 We call that the Saturday Night Live Ride.

01:48:32.000 We call it the Saturday Night Ride.

01:48:34.000 Yeah, you gotta call it one of the other.

01:48:36.000 You can't call it...

01:48:37.000 Alright.

01:48:37.000 Skydive.

01:48:38.000 We call it staying alive.

01:48:40.000 Boy, if he can last a minute, he's gonna be gassed.

01:48:43.000 He's got it for a minute.

01:48:44.000 Yeah, I don't know about all that.

01:48:45.000 That's a tough call, B. He might get smushed here, dude.

01:48:47.000 Just hold on.

01:48:48.000 He's looking for the arm triangle on that right arm.

01:48:50.000 Or the Americana.

01:48:51.000 Did you say just hold on to him, B? Yeah, just hold on to him.

01:48:54.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1.00

01:48:55.000 Well, Josh Barnett will put a beating on you in that fucking mount position, too. 0.99

01:48:59.000 He's an expert at maneuvering. 0.99

01:49:02.000 Getting you in bad spots, you know, anticipating your defense and dropping those short palm-to-elbow elbows down on you, those press-down, you know, Jeremy Horn-style elbows.

01:49:12.000 He also has a great head-arm choke here that he does.

01:49:15.000 Jeremy Horn was like one of the first guys that really was teaching that.

01:49:18.000 Oh, he's cutting him up.

01:49:18.000 Oh, he's smashing him.

01:49:20.000 40 seconds to go.

01:49:21.000 Man, he's got to finish him. 0.95

01:49:22.000 He's nasty. 0.90

01:49:23.000 He's looking for that arm. 0.96

01:49:24.000 He's looking to straighten those arms out.

01:49:26.000 But Arlovski's got fairly good defense, but not right here.

01:49:30.000 Come on, Andre.

01:49:31.000 Don't turn to his back.

01:49:32.000 30 seconds.

01:49:34.000 Oh, my God.

01:49:35.000 He's getting beat on.

01:49:36.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

01:49:36.000 It's not enough to stop it, though, is it?

01:49:38.000 Yeah, but he's getting smashed. 1.00

01:49:40.000 Andre, he's going to be fucked when he gets on. 1.00

01:49:42.000 It's over. 1.00

01:49:43.000 It's over.

01:49:44.000 He's beating on him, man.

01:49:45.000 Now it's over.

01:49:46.000 Oh, it's flat.

01:49:46.000 You got time.

01:49:47.000 You got time.

01:49:48.000 You got time.

01:49:49.000 You got time.

01:49:50.000 Now it's over.

01:49:51.000 He's going to sink it in.

01:49:52.000 Josh Barnett.

01:49:52.000 Oh!

01:49:54.000 There it goes.

01:49:55.000 Oh, he's gonna survive!

01:49:56.000 I don't think so.

01:49:57.000 Yes, yes.

01:49:58.000 Oh hell yeah, he's surviving.

01:49:59.000 It's over.

01:50:00.000 It's over.

01:50:01.000 They're not gonna stop it.

01:50:02.000 Oh, he got it.

01:50:03.000 Wow.

01:50:04.000 Wow.

01:50:05.000 Dude, what a beating.

01:50:06.000 He took a ferocious beating.

01:50:08.000 Morlowski's in trouble.

01:50:09.000 Like, getting up, he's gotta be reeling right now.

01:50:11.000 I mean, his face is smushed. 0.99

01:50:13.000 And he's tired as fuck. 0.99

01:50:15.000 It has to be, man. 1.00

01:50:16.000 He just exploded for survival for the last minute. 1.00

01:50:20.000 The last minute was just a crazy swim to shore with sharks biting your asshole. 1.00

01:50:25.000 Is that Winklejohn right there? 1.00

01:50:26.000 And then you gotta go back out there.

01:50:29.000 Mike Winklejohn is the guy to his left.

01:50:31.000 Like right in front of Orlovsky.

01:50:33.000 That's Mike.

01:50:36.000 And that's Greg Jackson.

01:50:38.000 Been here a bunch of times.

01:50:39.000 That's not good.

01:50:40.000 You've been here 100 times.

01:50:42.000 Well, I'm literally on the brink of dying.

01:50:44.000 You start thinking about...

01:50:48.000 Where do either of these guys go from here?

01:50:50.000 I guess they're both.

01:50:51.000 They're both in the mix.

01:50:55.000 Yeah, heavyweight division's pretty old.

01:50:56.000 Could take down Barlovsky, but he got reversed.

01:50:59.000 Watch this.

01:50:59.000 Yeah, the momentum.

01:51:00.000 Man.

01:51:02.000 Mounted way easy.

01:51:03.000 Yeah, that's not what you want.

01:51:04.000 Oh my God.

01:51:06.000 Barnett just dropping bombs down on him.

01:51:08.000 Super accurate.

01:51:11.000 Josh Barnett is no joke, man.

01:51:13.000 Come on, Andre.

01:51:14.000 Come on.

01:51:17.000 Look at this.

01:51:18.000 And Barnett also can keep up this pace for five rounds.

01:51:21.000 He fought Roy Nelson and gave Roy Nelson a beating like that for five rounds.

01:51:25.000 Yeah, he did.

01:51:26.000 That was super impressive.

01:51:27.000 He's just such a vet, man.

01:51:28.000 He's seen it all.

01:51:29.000 Yep. 0.98

01:51:29.000 Well, he's also just so fucking tough. 0.98

01:51:31.000 Durable. 1.00

01:51:33.000 And has so many fucking tricks. 1.00

01:51:35.000 But Arlowski's still got the bomb, man. 1.00

01:51:36.000 He's still got the bomb in his hand.

01:51:38.000 Look at him.

01:51:38.000 He's trying to set it up.

01:51:41.000 I don't think that landed.

01:51:43.000 Dude, it's weird the way he throws that right hand.

01:51:45.000 It's like his elbows down, his shoulders up, and he like whips it.

01:51:51.000 It's almost like he doesn't throw it straight anymore.

01:51:53.000 See what I'm saying?

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 He throws that kick and he's getting caught.

01:51:56.000 That's the second time he's gotten caught.

01:51:57.000 But it's like he's throwing it with his body, and then the arm is sort of following behind it.

01:52:01.000 It's like whipping.

01:52:02.000 It's weird.

01:52:04.000 They're so tired, these guys are kind of...

01:52:07.000 I would like...

01:52:08.000 Oh, man!

01:52:10.000 Right hand!

01:52:11.000 Barnett!

01:52:11.000 Oh!

01:52:13.000 Barlovsky!

01:52:13.000 Barlovsky is a stud!

01:52:15.000 These guys are amazing!

01:52:16.000 Oh, nice knee to the body! 0.99

01:52:17.000 He hurt him with that knee to the body!

01:52:18.000 No, he poked him in the eye.

01:52:19.000 Oh, he poked him in the eye.

01:52:20.000 Well, the ref didn't see it.

01:52:22.000 Barnett knows better than that to stop it. 1.00

01:52:24.000 Oh shit, and he's whooping his ass. 1.00

01:52:26.000 Oh my god, this is an amazing fight. 1.00

01:52:27.000 Come on. 1.00

01:52:28.000 Orlovsky said, enjoy your win with one fucking eye. 1.00

01:52:30.000 Oh my god. 1.00

01:52:31.000 Give it up!

01:52:33.000 Orlovsky gets behind him.

01:52:34.000 Get out! 0.98

01:52:34.000 Kimura! 0.98

01:52:35.000 Kimura! 1.00

01:52:35.000 Orlovsky needs to stop this shit. 1.00

01:52:37.000 He keeps trying to grapple. 1.00

01:52:39.000 Double wrist lock.

01:52:39.000 Goddammit.

01:52:40.000 Look at that.

01:52:41.000 Flipped him.

01:52:41.000 Now you need charm ripped off.

01:52:43.000 Now you need charm ripped off. 1.00

01:52:44.000 He's fucked! 1.00

01:52:44.000 He's super fucked. 1.00

01:52:45.000 Damn it. 1.00

01:52:46.000 This is Barnett all fucking day long. 1.00

01:52:48.000 This is his world. 0.98

01:52:48.000 I mean, this dude submitted Dean Lister, Huron Gracie. 0.98

01:52:52.000 Huron, yes.

01:52:53.000 Easily.

01:52:54.000 That is a big feat, man.

01:52:55.000 Huge.

01:52:56.000 It's over right here.

01:52:57.000 This is not good.

01:52:58.000 Oh! 1.00

01:53:00.000 Shit! 1.00

01:53:01.000 Dude, this is a fight. 1.00

01:53:03.000 It's still over.

01:53:04.000 This is an amazing fight.

01:53:05.000 It's still over.

01:53:07.000 There's no way Orlovsky's going to get up here.

01:53:10.000 It's still over.

01:53:10.000 He's going for the Kimura again.

01:53:13.000 Orlovsky's a warlock, so he's got those powers.

01:53:15.000 He's going for it again.

01:53:16.000 He doesn't have much room, though.

01:53:20.000 Barnett, upset that it got away, man.

01:53:21.000 He's going to make a big point to try to get it out. 0.99

01:53:23.000 If you're Arlowski, quit fucking trying to grapple with him. 0.99

01:53:26.000 Oh, he's elbowing him, too. 1.00

01:53:27.000 He's going to open it up with elbows. 0.95

01:53:29.000 Barnett's so nasty.

01:53:29.000 A little tenderizing.

01:53:30.000 Barnett's so nasty. 0.98

01:53:33.000 Do you remember that time when Arlovsky was on the ground and Roy Nelson had him inside control with a double wrist lock, locked in, and they stood him up in Elite XC, that crooked-ass organization? 0.97

01:53:45.000 Remember that? 0.94

01:53:46.000 Hell yeah, I do.

01:53:47.000 And then Arlovsky went around.

01:53:49.000 Oh, no!

01:53:50.000 No way he's going to survive this.

01:53:53.000 Oh, two minutes and 20 seconds.

01:53:54.000 He's still in the mouth, though.

01:53:56.000 Well, that's not good.

01:53:57.000 This is not good, gentlemen.

01:53:58.000 No, this is not good.

01:54:00.000 He's giving up the back.

01:54:01.000 He's going to get choked out.

01:54:02.000 Yeah, he's giving up the back.

01:54:03.000 Josh's flattened him out.

01:54:04.000 He's flattened him out.

01:54:06.000 He's getting the neck.

01:54:06.000 That's it!

01:54:08.000 Josh motherfucking Barnett, ladies and gentlemen. 0.99

01:54:12.000 Two warriors, man. 0.99

01:54:13.000 Two legends. 1.00

01:54:15.000 Goddamn. 0.99

01:54:15.000 If I was Brennan Schaub, I'd say, for sure get off me before you congratulate me. 0.99

01:54:18.000 Yeah, for sure get the fuck out of here, man. 0.99

01:54:20.000 Let's do this when we get up, huh? 0.99

01:54:21.000 For sure we can do this friendship shit when you're not mounting me. 0.99

01:54:24.000 Yeah, man. 0.99

01:54:24.000 You've got great cardio. 0.99

01:54:25.000 Fuck, yes. 1.00

01:54:26.000 You would never think so, but man, he... 1.00

01:54:27.000 God, is he good. 0.98

01:54:29.000 Goddamn, that was a good fight. 0.99

01:54:30.000 Tough as nails, man. 1.00

01:54:32.000 Fuck. 1.00

01:54:32.000 Josh Brennan is tough as nails. 1.00

01:54:33.000 Tough as nails. 1.00

01:54:34.000 That was a goddamn war. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Woo! 1.00

01:54:37.000 What a fight. 1.00

01:54:38.000 And, you know, all due respect, he doesn't seem...

01:54:41.000 He's got great cardio.

01:54:42.000 He doesn't...

01:54:42.000 If you looked at his body physically, he doesn't look like he's in that good of shape.

01:54:46.000 What?

01:54:46.000 Good Lord.

01:54:47.000 Josh Barnett?

01:54:48.000 Come on.

01:54:48.000 He's always...

01:54:49.000 You're talking about a legend.

01:54:50.000 I know he is.

01:54:51.000 I'm just saying.

01:54:52.000 Don't judge a book by its cover, Brendan.

01:54:54.000 Look at Fedor.

01:54:55.000 I've always said that.

01:54:56.000 Look at Fedor.

01:54:56.000 Yeah.

01:54:57.000 God, he's amazing.

01:54:58.000 Boom! 0.99

01:54:59.000 Oh, no.

01:55:00.000 And still took it.

01:55:01.000 He had his hand. 0.99

01:55:03.000 Barnett fucked him up after this. 1.00

01:55:04.000 He went, oh, you want to poke me in the fucking eye? 1.00

01:55:06.000 Check this out. 1.00

01:55:07.000 See, this is our lossy loss to fight there.

01:55:09.000 Why did the ref stop that eye poke thing? 1.00

01:55:11.000 That was weird.

01:55:12.000 Didn't see it.

01:55:13.000 You didn't see it.

01:55:14.000 When they're looking at certain things, you know, and they miss little stuff like that, it's so hard to stop and reset.

01:55:20.000 Because you also stop the momentum of the fight.

01:55:22.000 And sometimes a guy gets punched in the eye.

01:55:24.000 Yeah.

01:55:25.000 And they'll reel away as if they got poked, but if you're watching the replay, it's just the knuckle.

01:55:30.000 Yeah.

01:55:30.000 Like Chuck Liddell used to get guys all the time, and he would throw these wild, crazy punches.

01:55:35.000 He would, because of the way the wraps are, and because of the way the gloves are, sometimes when Chuck is punching you, he's hitting you like this.

01:55:41.000 Yep.

01:55:41.000 So these are going in your eyes.

01:55:43.000 You can't stop it because of that.

01:55:45.000 I mean, he's just dropping bombs on you and sometimes they don't land perfectly with the knuckle.

01:55:49.000 Or sometimes even with the knuckle.

01:55:51.000 The knuckle goes into your eye.

01:55:53.000 But these things right here, these are not covered.

01:55:57.000 So if you're slinging and you catch someone like this and it goes in the eye, it feels just like a poke.

01:56:02.000 Definitely can't stop it.

01:56:04.000 Yeah.

01:56:05.000 Probably Dan Hardy.

01:56:06.000 Look at him.

01:56:06.000 He looks like an Englishman.

01:56:07.000 Dude, did you see Bruce Buffer's fucking white tux? 0.99

01:56:09.000 No, he had a white tux? 1.00

01:56:10.000 That's some Germany shit. 1.00

01:56:11.000 That's that foreign shit. 1.00

01:56:12.000 Don't bring that hair. 1.00

01:56:13.000 Oh, it shouldn't?

01:56:14.000 No.

01:56:14.000 No, can't have that hair.

01:56:15.000 How come?

01:56:16.000 We just can't.

01:56:16.000 We just can't do it.

01:56:17.000 Dan Hardy, those aren't jeans.

01:56:24.000 Powerful, powerful Josh Barnett.

01:56:26.000 We went for the finish every time.

01:56:28.000 I know we slowed down, but...

01:56:30.000 We went for the finish every time.

01:56:32.000 So, please give it up for Andre Olowski.

01:56:34.000 Give it up for Andre Olowski. 0.90

01:56:36.000 Damn right. 0.98

01:56:37.000 Damn right. 0.98

01:56:37.000 That's a great sportsman. 0.98

01:56:40.000 This is a crazy division.

01:56:41.000 It's going to be opened up next week.

01:56:43.000 We're going to find out what the hell's going on.

01:56:44.000 Because if Stipe can defend the title, you know, you've got a real champion on your hands.

01:56:47.000 And if Overeem could beat him, things get very, very interesting.

01:56:52.000 Look at how we put the choke on.

01:56:54.000 Look at the grip.

01:56:55.000 Then you've got Verdum Travis Brown again.

01:56:57.000 He smushed it.

01:56:58.000 He, like, punched at it.

01:56:59.000 He went like this.

01:57:00.000 Yeah.

01:57:00.000 Interesting, huh?

01:57:04.000 Well, he's a real artist when it comes to submissions. 1.00

01:57:08.000 Josh Barnett knows his shit. 0.99

01:57:12.000 There's some big-ass fights coming up, dude. 0.99

01:57:15.000 Some big-ass fights coming up. 0.95

01:57:16.000 If you would have hit his face, it would have been different. 0.97

01:57:18.000 Boom! 1.00

01:57:18.000 Oh, that's so fucked up, man. 1.00

01:57:20.000 But that's something when you see a guy turning away holding his eye like that. 1.00

01:57:24.000 Go ahead and punch him in the face. 1.00

01:57:25.000 Jamie, what's the card next weekend? 1.00

01:57:28.000 You got the heavyweights, right?

01:57:29.000 So you got Stipe, Overeem, Verdum, Travis Brown rematch.

01:57:34.000 You know what?

01:57:34.000 I didn't know until today, just now, that Stipe, Overeem was September 10th.

01:57:39.000 I thought it was today.

01:57:40.000 I've been really excited about it.

01:57:42.000 You thought it was on Fight Pass?

01:57:43.000 Yeah.

01:57:44.000 Why did you think it was today?

01:57:45.000 I don't know.

01:57:46.000 Just did.

01:57:46.000 So you're upset?

01:57:47.000 I'm a little upset right now.

01:57:48.000 You thought it was next on Fight Pass?

01:57:50.000 So Stipe, Alistair, look at this.

01:57:53.000 Verdum and Travis Brown, very interesting.

01:57:56.000 What was the original fight?

01:57:58.000 Was this the original fight they had played?

01:58:00.000 No, Fabrizio was supposed to fight...

01:58:05.000 God, who pulled out? 0.99

01:58:06.000 Who the fuck pulled out? 0.99

01:58:07.000 Travis Brown was a late replacement. 1.00

01:58:09.000 Oh, Rothwell pulled out.

01:58:10.000 Oh, did he?

01:58:11.000 Oh, that's right.

01:58:12.000 He pulled out.

01:58:12.000 Brown got back in, right?

01:58:13.000 Because he just got his face kicked off by Kane.

01:58:15.000 So he came back in for this rematch.

01:58:18.000 Man, Travis Brown's in a tough spot.

01:58:20.000 He loses this one.

01:58:21.000 Better get Rhonda pregnant. 1.00

01:58:24.000 How fairly short is the notice?

01:58:26.000 Not that short, right?

01:58:28.000 Like four or five weeks.

01:58:30.000 But it's pretty recent since the fight with Kane.

01:58:34.000 Yeah, I know.

01:58:35.000 That's why it's tough to get back in there.

01:58:37.000 He got that spinning wheel kick.

01:58:38.000 Yeah, it was tough.

01:58:39.000 What's next for Kane?

01:58:42.000 That's a good question.

01:58:43.000 Probably a title fight, I would imagine.

01:58:45.000 Look at that CM Punk versus Mickey Galls.

01:58:48.000 The third fight of the night.

01:58:49.000 That's crazy.

01:58:51.000 That is before Faber and...

01:58:53.000 Yeah, it's after Faber.

01:58:56.000 Yes, sorry.

01:58:56.000 Favoring Jimmy Rivera, which is an interesting fight, man.

01:59:00.000 Jimmy Rivera's a tank.

01:59:01.000 Super tough fight for you.

01:59:03.000 Yeah.

01:59:03.000 He always wins, though, doesn't he?

01:59:04.000 Well, he wins a lot.

01:59:05.000 Besides the title.

01:59:06.000 Yeah.

01:59:07.000 Well, the Dominic Cruz fight was, you know, he got dropped in that fight a couple of times and got hurt, which is interesting.

01:59:13.000 I'll tell you, the fight I want to see is Steve versus Kane.

01:59:16.000 That's the fight.

01:59:17.000 Match-up-wise, it's such a fun fight.

01:59:19.000 Very similar styles.

01:59:20.000 Hey, what's going on with Tysimov?

01:59:22.000 He can't get into the country?

01:59:24.000 Yeah, I don't think so.

01:59:25.000 That's what I've heard.

01:59:26.000 That giant wrestler you're talking about?

01:59:27.000 No, no, no.

01:59:27.000 He's not a giant guy.

01:59:28.000 He's a 155er. 0.99

01:59:30.000 Was he 45 or 55?

01:59:32.000 Who is he supposed to be fighting?

01:59:33.000 Uh, 55. Right, Jamie?

01:59:35.000 Look that up.

01:59:36.000 Who is Landsberg?

01:59:37.000 Cyborg's fighting Nick Lentz.

01:59:38.000 Yeah, he's fighting Nick Lentz.

01:59:40.000 And Nick Lentz has been fighting 55. Damn. 0.99

01:59:43.000 Who is Landsberg? 1.00

01:59:44.000 Lineker versus Dodson is crazy! 1.00

01:59:46.000 That is goddamn crazy. 1.00

01:59:48.000 October 1st, Portland, Oregon. 1.00

01:59:50.000 That is madness. 1.00

01:59:52.000 Lineker's the fucking truth, right? 0.99

01:59:52.000 Who's the poor soul-fighting Cyborg? 0.99

01:59:54.000 Holy shit! 0.99

01:59:55.000 His name is Landsberg. 1.00

01:59:57.000 Who's the body back fighting fucking cyborg in Brazil? 1.00

02:00:00.000 She looks like a swimsuit model. 1.00

02:00:02.000 In Brasilia, Brazil.

02:00:04.000 Yeah, she's gonna be fed.

02:00:06.000 Jamie, what's her background?

02:00:07.000 She's a demon hunter. 1.00

02:00:09.000 Landsberg. 1.00

02:00:10.000 She's a fucking warlock hunter. 1.00

02:00:13.000 She's a demon hunter. 1.00

02:00:14.000 A necklace of garlic and a fucking sword with a crucifix at the bottom of it. 1.00

02:00:18.000 And still won't help. 1.00

02:00:19.000 You won't get knocked the fuck out. 0.98

02:00:21.000 Here's a shield. 0.97

02:00:22.000 Good luck in that fight. 1.00

02:00:23.000 God damn, man. 0.99

02:00:25.000 That's one of them good luck fights. 1.00

02:00:26.000 Who's gonna beat Cyborg?

02:00:28.000 That's a good question, man.

02:00:29.000 Who is going to be?

02:00:30.000 Yeah, Maribak Tysimov out of UFC 203. Visa issues.

02:00:33.000 He's such a monster, too. 0.92

02:00:35.000 He's very good. 1.00

02:00:36.000 So fucking good. 0.98

02:00:36.000 But he's had Visa issues for several fights in a row now. 0.98

02:00:39.000 I just don't know why the UFC can't clear that up. 0.99

02:00:42.000 Unless it's some weird shit. 0.98

02:00:43.000 For sure someone help him out. 0.99

02:00:45.000 I wonder what the problem is.

02:00:48.000 I don't understand visas, man.

02:00:50.000 I don't understand who gets them and who doesn't.

02:00:52.000 I think right now it's a little tough.

02:00:53.000 It was declined.

02:00:55.000 Hmm.

02:00:56.000 Yeah, I wonder why they declined those things, man.

02:01:00.000 I don't know what it is. 0.98

02:01:02.000 But too bad, because he could fight his ass off. 0.97

02:01:05.000 So good. 0.98

02:01:06.000 Yeah, he's very good, man.

02:01:07.000 Very good.

02:01:09.000 And look at that whole card.

02:01:11.000 That's Ian McCall and Ray Borg.

02:01:14.000 That's right, I forgot that.

02:01:16.000 Ray Borg's no joke.

02:01:18.000 That's interesting.

02:01:19.000 Who's on that fight path?

02:01:23.000 Betch Goye, Yancy Medeiros, Sean Spencer.

02:01:25.000 That's a good fight.

02:01:27.000 That should be next weekend.

02:01:28.000 So what else is going on?

02:01:31.000 You're calling that fight, obviously.

02:01:33.000 It's heavyweight championship in the world.

02:01:33.000 Yeah, I'm there next week.

02:01:35.000 Yeah.

02:01:35.000 Powerful Cleveland.

02:01:36.000 See ya. 1.00

02:01:37.000 See ya, fuckers. 1.00

02:01:38.000 Cleveland. 1.00

02:01:39.000 Beautiful Cleveland.

02:01:40.000 That's deep-based town.

02:01:41.000 It's gonna be interesting, man.

02:01:43.000 They're gonna come out in droves for him.

02:01:44.000 Hopefully.

02:01:45.000 Yeah.

02:01:46.000 No, it's going to be.

02:01:48.000 It's a very interesting fight, man. 0.99

02:01:50.000 Stipe is no fucking joke. 0.98

02:01:52.000 It's a toss-up for me. 0.98

02:01:53.000 But Alistair Overeem is so good at striking.

02:01:56.000 He's so clever and sneaky.

02:01:58.000 And now the way he fights, he moves around you and doesn't take any chances until he sees an opening.

02:02:04.000 Then he snipes on you.

02:02:06.000 And Miocic has got to be able to counter that.

02:02:08.000 And if he can't clip him and hurt him the way Rothwell did...

02:02:11.000 Then the fight becomes interesting.

02:02:13.000 You also look at the way Stipe almost terminators forward, you know what I'm saying, has that relentless pace like you do with JDS. You can't really do that with Overeem.

02:02:22.000 There's no training like that, really. 0.98

02:02:24.000 Well, it's going to be hard if he gets hit with leg kicks, like right away, because Alistair Overeem has some fucking ferocious leg kicks. 0.98

02:02:32.000 Body kicks, too. 0.98

02:02:33.000 He also throws that left kick to the body.

02:02:35.000 He switches stances a lot. 0.99

02:02:37.000 He can do a lot of different shit in there, striking-wise. 1.00

02:02:40.000 His knees are fucking horrific. 1.00

02:02:43.000 And then his grappling. 0.99

02:02:44.000 Yeah, his grappling's good. 0.99

02:02:45.000 He can fucking grapple. 0.99

02:02:45.000 We forget about it. 0.99

02:02:46.000 Yeah, his grappling's good.

02:02:47.000 It's very good.

02:02:48.000 He won the European Abu Dhabi qualifier.

02:02:50.000 Correct.

02:02:51.000 And he's, I think, the first guy to submit Vitor before Jon Jones did.

02:02:55.000 He submitted him with a guillotine back in the Pride days. 0.97

02:02:58.000 He's no joke, man.

02:02:59.000 Yeah, people forget about that.

02:03:01.000 Johnson versus Poirier.

02:03:02.000 That's going to be fun.

02:03:03.000 Hall Brunson's a fun one, too.

02:03:05.000 Oh, that's very good.

02:03:06.000 Yeah, Reroy Hall almost got the Anderson Silva fight, right?

02:03:09.000 And Anderson hurt himself.

02:03:10.000 Yeah.

02:03:11.000 Phil Brooks is a wrestling superstar.

02:03:14.000 Hmm.

02:03:15.000 It's interesting.

02:03:17.000 This whole thing is so interesting that it's taken so long...

02:03:22.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't hate on the guy for pursuing something new.

02:03:26.000 I hate on a guy for doing something new out of his lane.

02:03:29.000 You know, that's my life.

02:03:30.000 Cowboy and I were making fun of him the other day for being a straight edge, for not drinking.

02:03:34.000 People got so mad.

02:03:35.000 Really?

02:03:36.000 Yeah, they got so mad.

02:03:38.000 He's never been a drinker?

02:03:39.000 No, he's no drinking, no drugs, no steroids, no nothing.

02:03:42.000 And we were like, alright, good luck with all that.

02:03:45.000 Have fun.

02:03:47.000 People get so mad.

02:03:48.000 Like, folks, relax.

02:03:49.000 You know, if you don't want to drink, you don't have to drink.

02:03:52.000 I'm not saying you should drink.

02:03:53.000 He's a superstar.

02:03:54.000 And I'm not drinking right now.

02:03:56.000 I'm stone cold sober.

02:03:57.000 I didn't drink it all last night either.

02:03:59.000 I go many, many days without drinking.

02:04:01.000 You don't have to drink, but...

02:04:02.000 I only drink here.

02:04:04.000 I almost don't drink.

02:04:06.000 It's fun. 0.99

02:04:08.000 Damn, his shirt was super corny. 0.99

02:04:10.000 But you don't have to do it. 0.99

02:04:11.000 He's got a lot of guts, though.

02:04:13.000 I'm not mad at his girl, either.

02:04:15.000 Well, it's also, like, how many options does he have?

02:04:17.000 It's really interesting when you think the fact that this guy was competing in the WWE, and he's going to fight at 170. It's kind of crazy.

02:04:25.000 Because, you know, 170 is small.

02:04:28.000 It's not very big.

02:04:29.000 Is that a big weight cut for him?

02:04:30.000 What does he walk around at?

02:04:31.000 No, it's not a big weight.

02:04:32.000 He's not a big guy.

02:04:33.000 But it's even more interesting that this guy was able to compete as a professional wrestler.

02:04:38.000 Yeah.

02:04:38.000 Like, on television, like, to do all that stuff against guys, they must be way bigger than him.

02:04:43.000 Because he's not a big guy.

02:04:44.000 No, he's not a huge guy. 1.00

02:04:47.000 He's gonna get fucked up. 1.00

02:04:49.000 How dare you, Eddie Bravo? 1.00

02:04:51.000 How dare you, crushing the man's spirit?

02:04:53.000 Two years?

02:04:53.000 You've been training two years?

02:04:54.000 No, look at this striking. 1.00

02:04:54.000 It's fucking elite. 1.00

02:04:56.000 You've been training two years? 1.00

02:04:57.000 How dare you, Joe Rogan?

02:04:58.000 It's elite?

02:04:59.000 How dare you?

02:05:00.000 It's elite.

02:05:00.000 It's world class.

02:05:02.000 Well, it is.

02:05:02.000 He's fine at world-class level.

02:05:04.000 Look, he's a guy who's taking a big fucking chance. 0.93

02:05:07.000 We can mock him all day long, but at the end of the day, you've got to respect the fact that he's going to do it. 0.98

02:05:11.000 I don't think too many other people would do it.

02:05:13.000 How many other people would do it at his level?

02:05:15.000 I don't know, man.

02:05:16.000 Also, I'm very curious to see how he responds to the pressure.

02:05:19.000 Me too.

02:05:21.000 That's the one thing that bothers me.

02:05:22.000 I heard people go, oh, are you worried about the crowd and the UFC jitters?

02:05:26.000 They're real.

02:05:26.000 And he goes, I've been in front of big, big crowds.

02:05:29.000 It's no different.

02:05:30.000 I'm telling you it's different.

02:05:31.000 I've played football in way bigger crowds.

02:05:33.000 Fighting is completely different.

02:05:35.000 Even though you wrestle and it's one-on-one, it does not count.

02:05:37.000 Yeah, but the wrestling's not real.

02:05:39.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:05:40.000 He hasn't done anything competition-wise.

02:05:42.000 There's no pressure.

02:05:42.000 Didn't do karate tournaments.

02:05:43.000 Didn't wrestle.

02:05:45.000 Didn't kick box.

02:05:46.000 There's no jujitsu tournaments in his past.

02:05:49.000 So the only competitions that he's had, really realistically, are smokers inside the gym, which I believe they put him through a few.

02:05:56.000 How did he get into the WWE? How did that happen?

02:06:00.000 What's that story?

02:06:01.000 He's not a big guy.

02:06:02.000 Was he an actor?

02:06:03.000 How did he do it?

02:06:04.000 I don't know.

02:06:05.000 It's a good question.

02:06:07.000 He'd have something special about him if he's a small dude, he's not taking steroids.

02:06:11.000 He's a famous guy.

02:06:11.000 He's not taking any steroids and he's doing pro wrestling?

02:06:14.000 How does that even happen?

02:06:16.000 He's a good talker.

02:06:16.000 But if you watch, he's a good entertainer.

02:06:19.000 But if you watch his pro wrestling, there's guys that are in pro wrestling that are just freak athletes.

02:06:24.000 And they can somersault, flip over.

02:06:33.000 He's not one of those guys.

02:06:34.000 He's not one of those guys?

02:06:34.000 I thought he was the guy who jumped off and did flips and stuff.

02:06:37.000 No.

02:06:37.000 Not like those Mexican masks ones?

02:06:40.000 No, that's not his thing. 0.99

02:06:41.000 Those guys are the craziest. 0.96

02:06:42.000 Yeah, that's not his thing. 1.00

02:06:42.000 They'll scissor you in the legs and flip you by your own neck. 1.00

02:06:47.000 You have to do crazy shit. 1.00

02:06:49.000 That's just the law. 1.00

02:06:50.000 If you're going to be tiny and right, you got to be fucking backflip. 0.98

02:06:52.000 He was like the outcast in WWE. He was like the anti-man, like would it go against Vince McMahon, the businessman. 0.99

02:07:00.000 That was his whole spiel.

02:07:01.000 Are we allowed to see like one?

02:07:03.000 What is this?

02:07:04.000 He's jumping through the air and he's going to land on a table? 0.98

02:07:06.000 They make him do crazy shit there, but yeah. 0.96

02:07:09.000 Well, that doesn't mean he's athletic. 0.99

02:07:10.000 You're jumping onto a cushion.

02:07:12.000 How crazy.

02:07:12.000 My kids do that.

02:07:13.000 Yeah, my mom could do that. 1.00

02:07:14.000 There's a place down the street from here.

02:07:15.000 There's trampolines and they have cushions.

02:07:17.000 You jump on the cushion.

02:07:18.000 Sky Zone!

02:07:19.000 Yeah.

02:07:20.000 We go there all the time, man.

02:07:22.000 I mean, it's kind of funny, but at the end of the day, it's not like Brock Lesnar.

02:07:27.000 You look at Brock Lesnar, and the way he would move around, he'd be like, I'd like to see that guy fight for real.

02:07:32.000 You look at this guy, and he's a reasonable athlete. 0.98

02:07:36.000 You look at his body, he's a reasonably athletic guy who looks like he works out, but you look at his legs, you don't go, Jesus, I bet that guy could jump over the fucking moon. 0.73

02:07:46.000 Yeah, he's not a big guy. 0.94

02:07:49.000 He's not a real athletic guy.

02:07:50.000 He's like your everyday, average gym guy.

02:07:52.000 He's like, cool, let's see him fight.

02:07:54.000 He has a big name.

02:07:54.000 Hey, you never know.

02:07:55.000 Everyone's tuning in.

02:07:56.000 I mean, I do know he won't be the 170-pound champ of the world.

02:07:59.000 We do know that.

02:08:00.000 How dare you.

02:08:01.000 How dare you?

02:08:02.000 I don't think he wants to do that, either.

02:08:04.000 Look at him next to The Rock.

02:08:06.000 Looks like The Rock's about to eat him. 0.97

02:08:07.000 I will eat you.

02:08:08.000 I would love to see The Rock fight.

02:08:09.000 He doesn't look too much smaller than The Rock.

02:08:11.000 Oh, he's way smaller than him, dude.

02:08:13.000 Not in that picture.

02:08:14.000 Well...

02:08:15.000 Look at those arms.

02:08:15.000 They look similar.

02:08:17.000 He's got big arms.

02:08:18.000 It's for sure the camera.

02:08:19.000 I think it's a perspective issue.

02:08:21.000 If you see any of the...

02:08:22.000 I mean, I'm not degrading his body or anything like that, but if you look at most of the pictures of him wrestling, like go to that one on the upper left, right-hand side, go down, scroll down a little, Jamie, that next column, and there, go to the right.

02:08:33.000 Right there, click.

02:08:34.000 Yeah, you can tell he wasn't taking PDs.

02:08:36.000 It's like he's a fit guy.

02:08:38.000 He's in shape.

02:08:39.000 But the difference between him and a Rock or absolutely a Lesnar.

02:08:45.000 Rock is a big, powerful athlete.

02:08:47.000 A guy who works out a lot.

02:08:48.000 He's obviously jacked. 1.00

02:08:50.000 Yeah, he's a jacked fucking giant dude, but Brock moves around like a guy who knows how to kill people. 1.00

02:08:56.000 There's a total difference. 0.99

02:08:57.000 Like when he grabs guys...

02:08:58.000 What happened recently?

02:08:59.000 He broke some guy's head open with elbows?

02:09:01.000 An elbow, yeah.

02:09:02.000 It's all scripted.

02:09:03.000 Did he do it on purpose?

02:09:04.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:09:04.000 But it was a real cut.

02:09:05.000 It's all scripted.

02:09:06.000 Yeah, but they have a lot of scar tissue up there from taking chairs to the head and stuff, so if you're going to open a professional wrestler up, do it there.

02:09:13.000 Jamie, you know this is true?

02:09:15.000 He supposedly got into a real fight with somebody backstage that didn't know that the thing that was going out in the ring was stage two.

02:09:21.000 Oh, really?

02:09:22.000 Some guy got mad that, you went too far, bro.

02:09:25.000 But he didn't because everybody knew about it.

02:09:27.000 So they planned on doing that in advance.

02:09:29.000 So the guy in the back was like, you went too far, bro.

02:09:31.000 He didn't know about it.

02:09:33.000 And he didn't know it was staged. 0.99

02:09:34.000 Is he retarded? 1.00

02:09:36.000 It's 2016. How does he not know it's staged? 0.94

02:09:39.000 It's pro wrestling, right?

02:09:42.000 Supposedly Brock Lesnar's known for going off script, which is part of his craziness. 1.00

02:09:46.000 That motherfucker. 1.00

02:09:46.000 That off script motherfucker. 1.00

02:09:48.000 That roid raging motherfucker. 1.00

02:09:51.000 Yeah, he's a big fella. 1.00

02:09:53.000 It's too bad.

02:09:53.000 Big athletic dude, yeah.

02:09:54.000 You know, USADA, I don't know what kind of a suspension they're going to give him, but they're talking about not giving him that much of a suspension. 1.00

02:09:59.000 Fuck off. 1.00

02:10:00.000 He's going to get the Hillary Clinton treatment. 1.00

02:10:01.000 His is straight clomate, though. 1.00

02:10:03.000 Listen, shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:10:04.000 Different than John. 1.00

02:10:05.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:10:06.000 Is he talking about coming back and fighting another fight? 1.00

02:10:09.000 Oh yeah, I'm sure he would.

02:10:10.000 I'm sure he would.

02:10:10.000 He made a ton of money.

02:10:11.000 Crazy money.

02:10:12.000 He really didn't get beat up.

02:10:13.000 Did well.

02:10:14.000 Fought Mark Hunt, controlled him on the ground.

02:10:15.000 Him versus Barnett would be next, I bet.

02:10:17.000 I was about to say, that'd be interesting.

02:10:19.000 That would be variant.

02:10:21.000 John Jones, Brock Lesnar facing potential shorter suspensions from USADA. Listen, they need to just throw USADA and go, look, we proved the point.

02:10:30.000 I think we got it.

02:10:30.000 We got it.

02:10:31.000 But how does it work?

02:10:32.000 Does USADA take the place of the commission now in testing?

02:10:35.000 No.

02:10:36.000 No.

02:10:37.000 It's not that they take the place of the commission.

02:10:39.000 I believe the commissions are still within their rights to test fighters.

02:10:42.000 You'd have to actually look that up to make sure that's correct.

02:10:44.000 But the most important thing is...

02:10:46.000 The UFC is testing fighters all year round.

02:10:50.000 You have to give notice of where you are constantly, all the time.

02:10:53.000 So they're testing you whether you're in competition, whether you're out of competition, they're testing you randomly, they're showing at your house at 7 o'clock in the morning, and if they catch you, they're going to suspend you.

02:11:02.000 But who do they report it to, Joe?

02:11:03.000 That's a good question.

02:11:04.000 Who do they report it to, and who makes the decisions?

02:11:07.000 That's what I'm saying, because USADA's hired by the UFC. They're not a commission.

02:11:13.000 They're not a commission and USADA test you.

02:11:14.000 You get tested by two different Bodies. 0.96

02:11:18.000 But remember, USADA, they don't test the whole card.

02:11:21.000 It's selective testing.

02:11:23.000 Not USADA, the commission.

02:11:25.000 But the question is, and this is what we talked about with Scott Coker, so with USADA testing, who's an employee of the UFC? The UFC hired USADA to test their athletes.

02:11:35.000 They have nothing to do with the commission?

02:11:36.000 No.

02:11:36.000 So when USADA, let's say they find Lesnar or Lofsky, you know, random names.

02:11:42.000 Let's say CM Punk failed a test.

02:11:44.000 Do they go, hey, Dana, he failed a test.

02:11:47.000 Like, how does it work?

02:11:48.000 What's the exact steps?

02:11:50.000 This was our exact question on firing the kid, and no one answered it, really.

02:11:53.000 What's the path to... 0.99

02:11:56.000 Like, can Dana go, fuck, alright, well, it's just Molly. 1.00

02:11:59.000 Let's not spend him for that. 0.99

02:12:00.000 Or, you know, it's this, he's our main event, let's not do that.

02:12:04.000 I don't think it's up to Dana.

02:12:06.000 Molly.

02:12:06.000 There's no way.

02:12:07.000 I'd like to party.

02:12:09.000 It's weird to think about.

02:12:11.000 I don't know.

02:12:12.000 I'd love to know.

02:12:12.000 Obviously, there's no way Dana or whoever's – well, it would be Dana's going, well, he just spent for that.

02:12:18.000 Let's do this.

02:12:19.000 So when it comes to Bellator, the commission still checks, but it's a random thing.

02:12:25.000 Yeah.

02:12:25.000 Well, they can't be checking that much.

02:12:28.000 Well, no, but for Fight Week, you get – I mean, it can for sure.

02:12:32.000 Well, how does that guy, Michael Chisley, whatever his name is, get away with it?

02:12:35.000 Bobby Lashley?

02:12:36.000 Yeah.

02:12:37.000 Michael Chisley.

02:12:38.000 And Michael Chisley.

02:12:40.000 He's fighting in places that don't have commissions.

02:12:42.000 I got you.

02:12:42.000 Like Oklahoma, wherever.

02:12:44.000 Oh, okay.

02:12:45.000 Certain states don't have their own commission.

02:12:47.000 So then Bellator, the UFC, is responsible in deciding whether they want to test or not.

02:12:53.000 Like when Bellator went to England, there's no commission there.

02:12:57.000 There's no fight commission testing them.

02:12:58.000 So Bellator had their own testing.

02:13:00.000 Hmm.

02:13:01.000 So, yeah.

02:13:02.000 Which is, again, how's that work?

02:13:04.000 Not sure.

02:13:05.000 It's interesting, right?

02:13:06.000 Yeah, it's very interesting.

02:13:07.000 Hey, fellas. 0.59

02:13:08.000 No commission.

02:13:09.000 Do your thing. 0.99

02:13:10.000 Yeah, they should be able to do whatever the fuck they want. 0.99

02:13:12.000 It's their organization. 0.96

02:13:13.000 If they don't want to hire USADA and they don't want to do it that way, let's see what it's like if you do it the old way.

02:13:19.000 Let's do it the old way.

02:13:20.000 You're talking about Pride.

02:13:21.000 No, we're talking about Strikeforce.

02:13:23.000 Or the UFC pre-days.

02:13:26.000 You're talking about Ubering vs.

02:13:28.000 Brock. 0.99

02:13:28.000 Without mentioning names, you can see such a difference in some people's bodies in the UFC now that they've cracked down on this shit. 0.99

02:13:35.000 No one more than Ubering. 0.99

02:13:37.000 Yeah.

02:13:38.000 Well, maybe Vitor.

02:13:40.000 Like, TRT Vitor?

02:13:41.000 Yeah, unbelievable difference.

02:13:42.000 But that was a weird one because it was so transparent, because it was TRT. I mean, he was taking it, it was legally prescribed.

02:13:47.000 Yeah, Vitor's number one on that.

02:13:49.000 He's number one.

02:13:49.000 Also, number one for, like, the poster boy for results.

02:13:52.000 Like, Jesus, where do I sign? 0.99

02:13:55.000 Explosive as shit. 1.00

02:13:56.000 If you show a kid a video and like, Dad, why the fuck wouldn't I do it? 1.00

02:13:59.000 I have no argument, son. 0.99

02:14:00.000 I have no argument.

02:14:01.000 Like a human and a lion made a baby.

02:14:05.000 For real.

02:14:05.000 It's like, even Tanner, he was Tanner, the mohawk, the whole thing comes out.

02:14:10.000 It like crosses, it's shaved into his head.

02:14:14.000 Went uber religious.

02:14:15.000 It was intense.

02:14:16.000 Jesus ain't putting that testosterone in your blood, son.

02:14:19.000 Well, that was one of the things that he said after he got off of it, is that he has a holy supplement that he doesn't need TIT anymore.

02:14:25.000 How's that working out for you?

02:14:26.000 Well, it just took a while for the holy supplement to really...

02:14:29.000 Yeah, the blood of Christ. 0.98

02:14:30.000 I'm still fucking waiting. 0.99

02:14:31.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:14:31.000 Just pray every day. 0.99

02:14:34.000 Who's Weidman going to fight?

02:14:35.000 That's what I want to know.

02:14:37.000 He's fighting in New York, though.

02:14:38.000 Well, he should be. 0.99

02:14:39.000 But, I mean, damn, he was in the mix. 0.96

02:14:41.000 Now they're talking about Rumble versus Jon Jones for a shot at the title. 0.98

02:14:45.000 And they're talking about...

02:14:47.000 Is that supposed to be at Madison Square Garden?

02:14:50.000 Is that what they're saying?

02:14:51.000 That's what they're saying.

02:14:53.000 So wouldn't it be Rockhold Weidman 2? 0.96

02:14:57.000 Rockhold, Weidman 2 would be fucking awesome. 0.64

02:15:00.000 I would love to see that.

02:15:01.000 Because you have Bisping Henderson for the title in England happening in October.

02:15:04.000 That's in Manchester.

02:15:05.000 In November, you'd have Weidman vs.

02:15:07.000 Rockhold, right?

02:15:08.000 It's not a bad idea, but then what do you do with Yoel Romero?

02:15:11.000 He's still in the mix.

02:15:12.000 Very much so.

02:15:13.000 Yeah, not really.

02:15:14.000 You don't think he's in the mix?

02:15:16.000 Not when it comes to those guys.

02:15:17.000 Man, I don't know.

02:15:18.000 What do you mean, though?

02:15:19.000 It's hard to market. 0.97

02:15:20.000 You can market the fuck out. 0.96

02:15:22.000 You're not going to put Yoel versus one of these guys in New York. 0.96

02:15:24.000 It's a huge, huge Maston Square Garden.

02:15:26.000 He's coming off suspension.

02:15:28.000 Rockhold Weidman, we're going to watch.

02:15:30.000 Let me tell you something. 0.99

02:15:31.000 I will see Yoel Romero fight against fucking anybody. 0.99

02:15:34.000 Me too. 1.00

02:15:35.000 Wow.

02:15:35.000 Rashad Evans.

02:15:37.000 Maybe Rashad Evans versus Yoel Romero.

02:15:39.000 No, Rashad's fighting Tim Kennedy.

02:15:40.000 What is this?

02:15:41.000 MSG. Yeah.

02:15:42.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:15:43.000 November is the only one that's supposedly confirmed. 0.99

02:15:45.000 Powerful Tim Kennedy.

02:15:47.000 Jesus Christ.

02:15:48.000 Wow.

02:15:49.000 That's interesting.

02:15:50.000 So Kennedy's back in full training mode.

02:15:52.000 Oh, yeah.

02:15:53.000 Because he's been overseas.

02:15:53.000 He's always in shape.

02:15:54.000 He's been still serving.

02:15:56.000 Well, he was in kill mode.

02:15:58.000 Yeah.

02:15:58.000 This is fight mode.

02:16:00.000 This is easy mode for him.

02:16:01.000 Get ready for a fight?

02:16:02.000 What?

02:16:03.000 Yeah.

02:16:04.000 Yeah.

02:16:04.000 It's easy.

02:16:05.000 Talk about a guy living an intense life.

02:16:07.000 Tough fight for Rashad.

02:16:08.000 I like the matchup, though.

02:16:09.000 It's interesting to see if he can make that 185 cut, because he's not a big 205-er, and he was carrying around quite a bit of muscle.

02:16:16.000 I'm surprised Tim went on with the Reebok deal.

02:16:20.000 I wonder what did it for him.

02:16:21.000 I don't know.

02:16:22.000 Maybe he just wants to fight.

02:16:25.000 Maybe he just wants a fight.

02:16:26.000 But yeah, man, it's interesting to see what can happen without the Reebok deal, without USADA, over Bellator.

02:16:34.000 And they're slowly starting to get top talent.

02:16:36.000 I mean, now they've got Benson, they've got Rory.

02:16:40.000 Roy's by far the biggest.

02:16:42.000 By far the best, right?

02:16:43.000 Biggest.

02:16:44.000 Young, still has a lot of fight left in him.

02:16:46.000 Ben's right up there with them.

02:16:48.000 Benson Henderson?

02:16:49.000 Too many wars.

02:16:50.000 No, he's had some wars.

02:16:51.000 Too many wars.

02:16:52.000 He's slipped a little bit.

02:16:53.000 I mean, he might still be a lead of the elite, but at one point in time, he's accomplished more than any of them.

02:16:59.000 I mean, he was...

02:17:00.000 He's amazing.

02:17:00.000 Yeah, I mean, he was...

02:17:02.000 He was a champ.

02:17:03.000 WC champ.

02:17:04.000 WC champ.

02:17:05.000 Even on our podcast, he even kind of hinted at...

02:17:08.000 He's coming to the end of sort of what he considers his MMA career.

02:17:12.000 He can only do it for so long.

02:17:13.000 Yeah.

02:17:14.000 But he didn't hint that...

02:17:15.000 No, he thinks he's going to be champ, and he's obviously fighting for the belt.

02:17:19.000 Sure. 0.98

02:17:19.000 He's fighting Chandler for the belt, which is a tough fucking fight for him. 0.98

02:17:23.000 Tough fucking fight. 1.00

02:17:23.000 Chandler's a nightmare. 1.00

02:17:25.000 He's dangerous.

02:17:25.000 And Ben hasn't...

02:17:26.000 You know, I love Ben, but he hasn't looked that great in Pelotor.

02:17:29.000 Lost his first fight.

02:17:30.000 His last fight with Pitbull.

02:17:32.000 Not a great fight.

02:17:33.000 I'm actually losing that fight until Pitbull got hurt.

02:17:35.000 Rory's going to take a whole year off for his nose.

02:17:38.000 For his nose, yeah.

02:17:39.000 And that's from Robbie Lawler.

02:17:41.000 Yeah, that crazy smash-em-up fight.

02:17:43.000 Well, Wonderboy opened it up, but as Robbie Lawler broke it so bad in that fight that he broke it twice more in training for Wonderboy.

02:17:50.000 It just keeps breaking.

02:17:51.000 So I don't know if he gets surgery for that.

02:17:53.000 Like, what do you do?

02:17:55.000 He thinks it's just time.

02:17:56.000 Like, he had the proper surgery, but he keeps rushing back and it's just not getting better.

02:18:00.000 Can't breathe.

02:18:01.000 If he had the proper surgery and he went and got smashed up again, it's probably got to be cleared up again.

02:18:07.000 So maybe that's why he's taking a year.

02:18:09.000 That is such an issue with fighters because they want to get their nose fixed, but if you do get your nose fixed, you really shouldn't get punched in it for a while. 0.99

02:18:15.000 But if you don't get your nose fixed, then you can't breathe out of your fucking nose. 0.98

02:18:19.000 Yeah, you have to do it. 0.99

02:18:19.000 Yeah, it's a real weird one. 0.99

02:18:22.000 Vanderlei had the craziest solution.

02:18:24.000 Make your nose bigger. 0.64

02:18:25.000 Go to get surgery, take a chunk of cartilage out of your rib and make me a big nose that I can really breathe out of. 0.51

02:18:31.000 Give me that LeBron James nose. 0.52

02:18:33.000 I'll take the LeBron.

02:18:34.000 He got this extra chunk in his nose where his nose was bigger than it was before his fighting career.

02:18:41.000 He got a nose job.

02:18:43.000 Let's be real here.

02:18:44.000 He got a nose job that makes your nose bigger.

02:18:46.000 Yes.

02:18:47.000 Which is crazy.

02:18:48.000 Which is rare.

02:18:48.000 No one's ever done that.

02:18:48.000 Hollywood was like, dude, what?

02:18:50.000 Yeah, I want it bigger.

02:18:52.000 Bigger with my nostrils like this.

02:18:54.000 So the ear's like ram. 1.00

02:18:55.000 Like his ram ear right into my fucking nostrils. 1.00

02:18:59.000 Like he's got a hood scoop on. 1.00

02:19:01.000 If you want, I guess, man. 0.99

02:19:03.000 It's fucking nuts when you think about it. 0.98

02:19:05.000 That is funny, man. 0.99

02:19:07.000 It is funny.

02:19:08.000 Yeah, he had to get all sorts of stuff done.

02:19:12.000 He had to get his eyebrows cut down.

02:19:14.000 He had so much scar tissue around his eyes that his eyes were sagging.

02:19:18.000 Yeah.

02:19:18.000 He had a facelift.

02:19:19.000 Well, he got all the scar tissue cut, and then they pull it up.

02:19:23.000 Let's see it before and after, Jamie.

02:19:24.000 Well, you can see that he's got deep scars all around his eyes.

02:19:28.000 Like, Vandele has been in some... 1.00

02:19:30.000 Fucking wars. 0.99

02:19:31.000 Legend, legend, legend. 0.99

02:19:32.000 And then on top of that, he comes from Shoot the Box and their sparring sessions.

02:19:37.000 Nobody spars like they used to spar.

02:19:39.000 Hell no.

02:19:39.000 Like today, nobody does it like that.

02:19:40.000 They used to knock each other out for fun.

02:19:42.000 You can't.

02:19:42.000 You can't spar like that.

02:19:44.000 There's an old story of Vanderlei.

02:19:45.000 Before and after.

02:19:46.000 Oh, that's not...

02:19:47.000 That's not even a good one.

02:19:48.000 That's not even a good one.

02:19:49.000 No, because that right one's not the new one.

02:19:50.000 Well, the right one is...

02:19:51.000 The one on the right-hand side is relaxed, like after the surgery.

02:19:55.000 Go above there, like there, like there.

02:19:57.000 You can see, like, it's...

02:19:59.000 You got to see him, like, right after the surgery.

02:20:01.000 That says nose number three.

02:20:03.000 He's had three different noses?

02:20:04.000 Look, it says one, two, three.

02:20:05.000 You see that, Jamie?

02:20:06.000 Nose one.

02:20:07.000 The next one's two.

02:20:10.000 Yeah, so what that is, is that's right after surgery, and that's when it's a little bit more relaxed, I guess.

02:20:15.000 But yeah, he had to get sliced down.

02:20:18.000 That guy's had some crazy wars.

02:20:21.000 Him and Shogun fought over a Pitbull puppy, supposedly.

02:20:23.000 And he knocked Shogun out and took the puppy.

02:20:26.000 They made a contact, if I knock you out, I get the puppy for free.

02:20:30.000 If you knock me out, I'll give you, you know, whatever you're asking. 1.00

02:20:33.000 That's some Brazilian shit. 1.00

02:20:34.000 You actually do a really good Vanderlei impression. 1.00

02:20:37.000 Vanderlei.

02:20:38.000 Vanderlei, Dana White.

02:20:39.000 You know, this is what they've done in Nevada.

02:20:44.000 Athletic commission.

02:20:46.000 What they've done is not good.

02:20:49.000 It's almost as good as Cowan.

02:20:50.000 It's very good.

02:20:51.000 Just like him. 1.00

02:20:52.000 They fucked him, man. 1.00

02:20:53.000 He might have got fucked more than any MMA fighter ever. 1.00

02:20:56.000 They banned him for life. 0.99

02:20:57.000 For life.

02:20:58.000 For life.

02:20:58.000 And he won.

02:20:59.000 So they threw it out, but now he doesn't have a license.

02:21:03.000 He doesn't have a timeline.

02:21:05.000 He doesn't have it.

02:21:06.000 And they're talking about him fighting.

02:21:08.000 They were talking about him fighting Fedor in Japan in like December, right?

02:21:13.000 In Risen, yeah.

02:21:13.000 Yeah.

02:21:13.000 They even had posters and shit.

02:21:15.000 I don't know if that's ever gonna happen. 0.93

02:21:16.000 When does a guy like that, after all that damage, take...

02:21:19.000 Stop.

02:21:19.000 I mean, that's probably...

02:21:19.000 Him for his fate or I'll watch, though.

02:21:21.000 Live to fight.

02:21:22.000 Fight is a good fight.

02:21:24.000 It's like a Brazilian Arnold Schwarzenegger. 0.98

02:21:26.000 Come on, do it! 0.96

02:21:28.000 Come on, do it! 0.96

02:21:29.000 Dana White.

02:21:30.000 Dana.

02:21:30.000 Back to Pride.

02:21:32.000 Dude, you want to hear a fucking crazy story I heard about Jake Ellenberger. 0.99

02:21:37.000 This is from his camp. 0.99

02:21:38.000 So Jake, after his last fight, have you heard this?

02:21:41.000 No.

02:21:41.000 Jake, after his last fight, gets cut.

02:21:44.000 Joe Silva calls him like, yeah, man, see you, you cut.

02:21:47.000 Jake flies to Vegas, shows up at the UFC headquarters, meet with Dana.

02:21:51.000 He's in his office.

02:21:52.000 He's like, I need one more, man.

02:21:54.000 You got to give me one more.

02:21:55.000 I fought monsters.

02:21:56.000 My head wasn't right. 1.00

02:21:57.000 I have all this shit going on. 0.99

02:21:58.000 You got to give me one more. 1.00

02:22:00.000 Dan's like, I can't, man.

02:22:01.000 You've lost, whatever, four out of your last five.

02:22:02.000 It just ain't happening.

02:22:04.000 Gets up, leaves, and Jake goes, I'm not going anywhere.

02:22:06.000 I'm not going anywhere until you give me another fight.

02:22:08.000 I'm not doing anything. 1.00

02:22:09.000 He's staying and leaves, does all his shit, comes back. 0.99

02:22:12.000 Jake's still in his office. 1.00

02:22:13.000 Jesus Christ, man.

02:22:15.000 Fine. 1.00

02:22:16.000 One more fucking shot. 1.00

02:22:18.000 Days go by. 1.00

02:22:20.000 Joe Civil calls his manager, Morgan, who I know really well, and he goes, Alright, man, we got your boy a fucking fight. 0.99

02:22:28.000 We got Matt Brown. 0.99

02:22:29.000 And his manager goes, Jesus, man!

02:22:32.000 Matt Brown!

02:22:34.000 I don't know if we...

02:22:34.000 Do you have anyone else?

02:22:36.000 And Joe Silva goes, no, that's the fight.

02:22:38.000 Just forget it.

02:22:38.000 He doesn't have a fight.

02:22:40.000 Hangs up and then Morgan's like, no, no, no. 0.99

02:22:41.000 We'll fucking take it. 0.98

02:22:43.000 And then calls Jake and then obviously Jake goes in there. 0.99

02:22:45.000 Terrible matchup for him.

02:22:46.000 Just starches Matt Brown.

02:22:48.000 Knocks him down with a right hand. 0.99

02:22:50.000 Takes him off his feet and then liver kicks him. 0.99

02:22:52.000 Great story, man.

02:22:53.000 Crazy fight.

02:22:54.000 When they told him that story, I had goosebumps.

02:22:55.000 Good for you, Jake.

02:22:57.000 Good for you, man. 0.99

02:22:58.000 Damn, desperation can sometimes breed great success. 0.99

02:23:02.000 God bless him. 0.99

02:23:02.000 Well, he also started working with Nick Curzon. 0.99

02:23:04.000 Nick Curzon, who's a strength and conditioning trainer, Speed of Sport.

02:23:08.000 He's Marv Marinovich's disciple.

02:23:10.000 And he's the guy that's done Joe Schilling.

02:23:13.000 He handles Provodnikov, Aaron Pico.

02:23:17.000 A lot of elite athletes go to him.

02:23:19.000 It's really pretty revolutionary strength and conditioning ideas.

02:23:22.000 And he worked with them and really built up his training and built up his endurance and did a lot of plyos and shit with them. 0.93

02:23:30.000 For Jake, obviously he was fighting just monsters. 0.83

02:23:34.000 It seemed to be a little bit of a mental thing.

02:23:35.000 He's been fighting forever.

02:23:37.000 He's been fighting the best of the best.

02:23:38.000 Yes, it's hard to...

02:23:39.000 First fight in the UFC is against Carlos Condit.

02:23:41.000 Yeah, man.

02:23:42.000 Remember, he knocked out Jake Shields, too.

02:23:44.000 Knocked him out, starched him.

02:23:46.000 Was that his first fight in the UFC or was it Condit's first fight in the UFC? It was Ellenberger.

02:23:49.000 I want to say Condit's first fight in the UFC was Ellenberger.

02:23:51.000 Condit's because he came from WEC. Ellenberger knocked out Nate Marquardt, remember?

02:23:54.000 It was Ellenberger's first fight in the UFC then.

02:23:56.000 I want to know.

02:23:57.000 That's interesting.

02:23:58.000 It wasn't Nate, right?

02:23:59.000 No. 0.98

02:24:00.000 Ellenberg is a beast, man. 0.73

02:24:01.000 I was way down the road.

02:24:02.000 Remember when he knocked out Pele?

02:24:04.000 Yes.

02:24:05.000 Outside of the UFC? KO'd Pele with one punch?

02:24:08.000 Crazy power, man.

02:24:09.000 Crazy power.

02:24:10.000 Pele Landy?

02:24:11.000 Carlos Condon.

02:24:12.000 Carlos Condon was his first fight as well?

02:24:14.000 So I think it was Carlos' first fight as well.

02:24:20.000 Decision split.

02:24:21.000 Real close fight.

02:24:22.000 And remember when Jake Ellenberger beat Shields?

02:24:27.000 That's the same week Shields' dad passed away.

02:24:30.000 And he was thinking about not fighting.

02:24:31.000 And he took the fight and just got starts.

02:24:34.000 Not to take anything away from that fight.

02:24:36.000 He was super close to his dad, too.

02:24:37.000 Super, super close.

02:24:39.000 Can you imagine?

02:24:39.000 No, I can't.

02:24:40.000 He just...

02:24:41.000 It's hard to imagine.

02:24:43.000 Hard to imagine fighting right after losing your dad like that.

02:24:46.000 Like, your motivation would be out the window.

02:24:48.000 His dad was his manager, too, I think.

02:24:51.000 Yeah.

02:24:52.000 It's a bummer, man.

02:24:54.000 Yeah.

02:24:54.000 What is this?

02:24:55.000 Rumor?

02:24:56.000 Conor McGregor versus GSP at 205. Where are you hearing this?

02:24:59.000 I was looking around for...

02:25:02.000 There's rumor-reveal stuff for that fight, and there's supposedly a big fight announcement is all I saw, and then I saw a big McGregor fight announcement.

02:25:09.000 That would be awesome.

02:25:11.000 Prepared to get wrestle-fucked. 0.88

02:25:13.000 Just a rumor right now. 0.97

02:25:14.000 Prepared to get that French-fucked for 25 minutes. 1.00

02:25:21.000 Give me my fucking money back. 1.00

02:25:22.000 It would be interesting, man, because Connor is fast as fuck. 1.00

02:25:26.000 And at least in that first round, while he's exploding with those ridiculous sprint punches that he lands, he lands those counter shots on you and they're so fast. 0.99

02:25:36.000 St. Pierre's not slow.

02:25:37.000 He's not slow.

02:25:37.000 And he's way, way too smart to get caught with that.

02:25:40.000 And he's big.

02:25:40.000 He's a big boy.

02:25:42.000 And can grapple with the best of them.

02:25:43.000 And his natural walk-around weight is a solid 20-plus pounds heavier.

02:25:48.000 Solid.

02:25:48.000 190?

02:25:49.000 Yeah, he's probably at least in the high 180s.

02:25:52.000 100%.

02:25:53.000 And Connor weighed 168 against Nate, which you've got to assume that that's him not really cutting weight.

02:25:58.000 He's just really fit.

02:26:00.000 For Conor, man, everyone knows I'm the biggest Conor fan, but you look at the matchups at 55, besides 45, which you can't really make anymore, but you look at 55 and then these super fights, it's not great, man.

02:26:12.000 Well, they're talking about doing him and Eddie Alvarez.

02:26:14.000 That is no picnic.

02:26:15.000 No.

02:26:16.000 And that's his easiest matchup at 55. Definitely not his easiest.

02:26:21.000 No, just go through the top five.

02:26:23.000 Bring up the top five, Jimmy.

02:26:25.000 I went through this the other day, I'm like, Jesus Christ, man.

02:26:27.000 I could not imagine how you could say that the champion would be his easiest fight.

02:26:33.000 Stylistically, I don't think that's an easy fight for anybody. 1.00

02:26:36.000 Eddie Alvarez is a fucking monster. 0.99

02:26:38.000 Exactly, that's what I'm saying. 1.00

02:26:39.000 It's not good for Conor. 0.97

02:26:41.000 It's a rough fight for him, but stylistically, out of the top five, I'm like, fuck's sakes, man. 0.95

02:26:46.000 He doesn't want to fight Khabib. 0.99

02:26:48.000 Well, Dos Anjos is going to fight Tony motherfucking Ferguson. 0.95

02:26:52.000 Both those two are top five. 0.96

02:26:54.000 Rafael Dos Anjos, Tony Ferguson in Mexico.

02:26:55.000 That's going to be great.

02:26:56.000 In Mexico, my friend.

02:26:58.000 That's going to be great.

02:26:59.000 Look at the top five for me, Joe.

02:27:01.000 Look at that.

02:27:03.000 Khabib Nurmagomedov. 0.99

02:27:05.000 Nurmagomedov is a monster. 0.99

02:27:07.000 We'll see. 1.00

02:27:08.000 Dos Anjos and Tony Ferguson are locked in a death fucking match for the number one position. 0.98

02:27:13.000 Let's say the winner of that. 0.99

02:27:13.000 Even the winner of that. 0.99

02:27:14.000 Or either of those guys. 0.99

02:27:15.000 Even the loser fights, Connor, it's a fucking tough fight. 0.99

02:27:18.000 Okay, and Barboza. 0.99

02:27:19.000 Well, here's the thing about Barboza. 0.99

02:27:22.000 Barboza's kicks are out of this fucking world. 0.99

02:27:25.000 Like he might be, but he's been caught before. 1.00

02:27:28.000 He's been cracked.

02:27:29.000 Barboza's your best bet.

02:27:30.000 Cowboy cracked him and took his back, and Donald Cerrone and him would be chaos.

02:27:35.000 Donald would take him down.

02:27:36.000 Donald is not fighting 55 anymore.

02:27:38.000 No.

02:27:39.000 He's going to keep fighting at 170. So I don't even know why they got him ranked there.

02:27:42.000 Because I think he's top 10 right now at welterweight as well.

02:27:45.000 He's number 7. Yeah, isn't he?

02:27:46.000 Yeah, Donald Cerrone.

02:27:47.000 It's interesting.

02:27:48.000 He's top 10 in both weight classes.

02:27:50.000 He's fighting better than he's ever fought.

02:27:52.000 I mean, he's just incredible.

02:27:53.000 How dare you have him before Neil Magny?

02:27:55.000 No, no, no.

02:27:55.000 How dare you?

02:27:56.000 I think Donald, especially after that last win, should be number 5 in that lineup.

02:28:03.000 He beat Edson Barbosa.

02:28:05.000 Yes, he did, but he beat him at lightweight, and now he's not really fighting at lightweight anymore, but yeah, you've got a good point, because Barboza's listed as number four, but Barboza's looked sensational, especially in his last fight against Gilbert Melendez.

02:28:17.000 Barboza's just off the charts technical.

02:28:19.000 I know, but you've got to count head-to-head.

02:28:21.000 I know.

02:28:21.000 I agree.

02:28:22.000 And then before that, his fight with Pettis.

02:28:25.000 But the fact that Donald is semi-retired from that division, you gotta give Barbosa a little bit of a bomb.

02:28:31.000 But this, you see my thing, Joey? 0.99

02:28:32.000 Like, you look at it, alright, Khabib, fuck's sakes. 1.00

02:28:36.000 Dos Anchos, good God. 0.99

02:28:37.000 Tony Persson, not great.

02:28:38.000 Nate Diaz at 55, he's better at 55 than with 70. Why?

02:28:42.000 I think it's natural for him.

02:28:44.000 I think he's gonna be faster, better cardio.

02:28:46.000 I think it's a tough fight.

02:28:48.000 Maybe. 0.99

02:28:49.000 All I'm saying for Conor, 55, if you're his management, you're like, God damn, man. 0.97

02:28:54.000 There's no, like, you know what I'm saying? 0.98

02:28:56.000 Right.

02:28:56.000 There's a lot of killers.

02:28:57.000 I don't think he's looking for easy fights.

02:28:58.000 I think he wants big money.

02:28:59.000 Didn't say that.

02:29:00.000 Didn't say that.

02:29:00.000 If you want big money, fight Floyd Mayweather.

02:29:02.000 You do a super fight with some of these guys.

02:29:04.000 Yeah.

02:29:06.000 Donald Cerrone McGregor would be awesome.

02:29:08.000 It'd be awesome.

02:29:09.000 How is Tumanov ranked 15th?

02:29:11.000 At 170. I don't know.

02:29:13.000 The welterweight division is insane.

02:29:16.000 It is insane.

02:29:16.000 That's insane.

02:29:18.000 Yeah, it is insane.

02:29:19.000 And then, did you see how good Lorenz Larkin looked against Neil Magny?

02:29:23.000 Good lord.

02:29:24.000 How is he ranked lower than Neil Magny?

02:29:27.000 Why is he 9 and Neil's 8? 0.99

02:29:29.000 Because his ratings suck. 0.98

02:29:32.000 That's terrible. 0.99

02:29:33.000 He just ran through Neil Magny.

02:29:35.000 What cheeto fingers do these? 1.00

02:29:36.000 He literally ran through them in the first round.

02:29:38.000 Oh, like a knife to warm butter just starched my boy Neil Magny.

02:29:42.000 How is he ranked below him?

02:29:43.000 That is insane.

02:29:44.000 What about Kelvin right there?

02:29:46.000 Kelvin, number five.

02:29:47.000 By the way, Tumanoff beat Lorenz Larkin.

02:29:51.000 So Tumanoff won a decision against Lorenz Larkin and he's down there at number 15, whereas Lorenz just destroyed Neil Magny and he's at 9 and Magny's at 8. These rankings are retarded. 0.99

02:30:02.000 They're so bad. 0.99

02:30:04.000 Maybe they're old.

02:30:04.000 They're probably old.

02:30:05.000 I doubt they're old.

02:30:05.000 No, they're not old because they have the up and down signs.

02:30:08.000 Well, this is what it is.

02:30:09.000 These rankings are journalists.

02:30:10.000 Do you know how these things are established?

02:30:12.000 Journalists.

02:30:14.000 A bunch of journalists give their top pick, and half of them are drunk.

02:30:18.000 They're not paying attention.

02:30:19.000 They're doing drugs.

02:30:20.000 Half of them are jacking off to their favorite fighter.

02:30:23.000 Well, it doesn't make any sense.

02:30:24.000 Those ratings don't make any sense.

02:30:26.000 Tumanoff being at 15, Lorenz Larkin, who he beat, being ranked way above him, and then Neil Magny being above him when he just blew Magny out of the water in the first round.

02:30:35.000 It doesn't make any sense. 0.93

02:30:36.000 Remember when the base guys pay off the rankings, and the fighter's like, What the fuck is going on here? 1.00

02:30:41.000 Dana's like, just fucking with you. 1.00

02:30:43.000 It's going to be Reebok. 1.00

02:30:44.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:30:45.000 Just fucking with you. 1.00

02:30:45.000 We ain't doing that. 1.00

02:30:46.000 That's crazy.

02:30:47.000 I'm just messing with you.

02:30:48.000 That's crazy.

02:30:49.000 Yeah, the rankings and the money and all that jazz, it's just, what a mess.

02:30:55.000 But yeah, for Conor, it gets tough at 55. I'd love to see him fight Eddie, though.

02:30:59.000 I agree.

02:31:01.000 He could win.

02:31:02.000 That's probably the fight.

02:31:02.000 He could beat him.

02:31:03.000 That's probably the fight.

02:31:04.000 Then what happens?

02:31:05.000 If he gets the belt then, he would probably defend against Khabib. 1.00

02:31:09.000 Yeah, good luck with all that.

02:31:10.000 Yeah, that's a disaster.

02:31:12.000 I don't think anyone wants to fight Khabib. 0.68

02:31:13.000 No one.

02:31:14.000 It's not even a Conor issue. 1.00

02:31:15.000 It's an entire fucking division. 1.00

02:31:17.000 They're just hoping that he keeps training like a fucking werewolf and then tears another knee or blows his back out. 1.00

02:31:22.000 That's what everybody does is stay back while that guy whips himself into a frenzy in every training camp. 1.00

02:31:27.000 If I'm his coach, that bitch is just on the Aerodyne. 1.00

02:31:29.000 That's his whole camp. 1.00

02:31:30.000 God. 1.00

02:31:31.000 Irodyne wears that crazy Russian hat and then jumps in the fucking octagon. 1.00

02:31:35.000 He just jumps from the sauna into the frozen lake. 1.00

02:31:37.000 I don't know why people talk to him.

02:31:39.000 I just have a bubble around him.

02:31:40.000 Irodyne. 0.77

02:31:41.000 Crazy Russian hat. 0.88

02:31:42.000 Do sprints. 0.53

02:31:44.000 Build up that cardio. 1.00

02:31:45.000 He's a fucking nightmare. 0.99

02:31:46.000 When you watch him fight Dos Anjos, and you see how Dos Anjos just overwhelms guys with grappling and pressure, and then Khabib just ragdolls him. 1.00

02:31:55.000 He's nuts. 0.95

02:31:55.000 Just ragdolls him. 0.95

02:31:56.000 Oh, you like to grapple? 1.00

02:31:57.000 Check this shit out. 1.00

02:31:58.000 This is my favorite thing to do. 1.00

02:31:59.000 I like to break people. 1.00

02:32:01.000 My daycare was grappling grizzly bears, you fuck. 1.00

02:32:04.000 Check this out. 1.00

02:32:04.000 Does he have a fight coming up, Khabib? 1.00

02:32:07.000 Is he scheduled to fight anybody?

02:32:09.000 No, he doesn't have anything.

02:32:10.000 No, he doesn't have anything.

02:32:11.000 Why?

02:32:12.000 Probably injuries.

02:32:13.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:32:14.000 Blow his asshole out or something. 1.00

02:32:14.000 He's always hurt. 1.00

02:32:15.000 No, I think he's healthy.

02:32:16.000 I hope he is.

02:32:17.000 He won a fight recently against a guy who took the fight on real short notice.

02:32:22.000 And it was straight Mahan Miller bully beatdown style.

02:32:24.000 It was a pretty ferocious beatdown.

02:32:26.000 But he looked like it was good for him to get that fight under his belt, but he did look like a killer. 0.99

02:32:32.000 He's a killer.

02:32:33.000 I mean, his grappling is so next level. 0.99

02:32:36.000 The injuries are killing him, man.

02:32:38.000 Train's hard.

02:32:38.000 Dude, did you see his video of him in Russia doing like a signing for Reebok?

02:32:43.000 No. 1.00

02:32:43.000 It was like Tom Cruise shit. 1.00

02:32:44.000 Oh, I'm sure. 1.00

02:32:45.000 They freak the fuck out.

02:32:47.000 Dude, anytime I post anything about the UFC, my Instagram comments get swarmed with Khabib. 1.00

02:32:53.000 Khabib time. 0.57

02:32:54.000 Really?

02:32:54.000 Oh my god.

02:32:55.000 In other parts of the world, like here he is. 0.98

02:32:57.000 You see like this fucking, the high-level smash and grappling this guy has. 0.99

02:33:02.000 You're right, Joe. 0.99

02:33:02.000 This was good for him, though. 0.99

02:33:03.000 This was good for him, because he had a lot of time off with the injuries.

02:33:06.000 Darryl Horcher, to get that fight under his belt, feel good.

02:33:09.000 Dude, he does whatever he wants.

02:33:11.000 He's so powerful.

02:33:12.000 When it comes to his grappling...

02:33:14.000 Look at this Dos Anjos thing.

02:33:15.000 Yeah, play that fight.

02:33:16.000 Play him versus Dos Anjos.

02:33:17.000 Let's see this.

02:33:18.000 Full fight. 1.00

02:33:19.000 He's a goddamn werewolf, man. 1.00

02:33:23.000 Even the way he leaps in and throws punches, he's so ferocious. 1.00

02:33:28.000 It's hard to stay healthy when you train like that, though.

02:33:30.000 I don't know what a guy does. 0.97

02:33:32.000 Some guys are fucking figuring it out. 0.96

02:33:33.000 Hey, answer me this. 0.97

02:33:35.000 How come they can show this on YouTube?

02:33:37.000 Is it because it's in a little window?

02:33:38.000 Yeah, this is the tricks they play.

02:33:42.000 This is a little window.

02:33:43.000 There's this faded line over here that's also going to add to tricking the computer.

02:33:48.000 It might have different music on it.

02:33:49.000 They added this on top of it.

02:33:51.000 Definitely illegal.

02:33:52.000 It's definitely illegal.

02:33:53.000 Yeah, scoot up ahead so we don't have to watch them walk in.

02:33:56.000 Yeah, it's interesting, man.

02:33:58.000 This guy has been more plagued with injuries than any elite fighter other than Dominic Cruz.

02:34:04.000 Dominic Cruz and him probably take the cake.

02:34:06.000 But Dominic Cruz had how many fights before he started getting all these injuries?

02:34:09.000 He hasn't had that many fights in the UFC. And he's undefeated, which is really crazy.

02:34:14.000 No one at this level is undefeated.

02:34:16.000 Nurmagomedov is the only guy that's undefeated.

02:34:19.000 Just because he hasn't fought enough, though. 0.99

02:34:20.000 But it's the fucking pressure. 0.99

02:34:22.000 Look at this guy. 1.00

02:34:23.000 When he moves forward, just massive pressure.

02:34:26.000 Constant pressure.

02:34:27.000 But good distance control.

02:34:29.000 Just outside the range, but always putting that pressure on you.

02:34:33.000 Skinny Dos Anjos.

02:34:34.000 It's a good kick to the body, but yeah, a lot skinnier Dos Anjos.

02:34:37.000 This is the fight that probably got him to start lifting weights and drinking watermelon juice.

02:34:43.000 Boom.

02:34:44.000 Look at this.

02:34:45.000 Look at this.

02:34:46.000 Look who carries him around and just drags him to the ground. 1.00

02:34:49.000 Dude, his grappling is so next level.

02:34:52.000 Combat Sambo, my friend.

02:34:54.000 Master of sport.

02:34:56.000 World champion.

02:34:58.000 Unreal. 0.98

02:34:59.000 Just so fucking brutal. 0.95

02:35:00.000 And the style that he does, it's like, it makes sense that this guy gets injured a lot because his style is pedal to the metal. 0.97

02:35:08.000 Explosive, yeah.

02:35:09.000 And you gotta train like this.

02:35:11.000 There's no way he doesn't train like this. 0.99

02:35:12.000 So if you're training like this all the time, you're dealing with little injuries, little micro injuries that get exacerbated, and then your fucking knees blow out. 1.00

02:35:21.000 Let's get the fuck out of here, boys. 1.00

02:35:22.000 Let's wrap this bitch up. 1.00

02:35:24.000 Let's bring it home. 1.00

02:35:25.000 How long did that fight go?

02:35:27.000 Three rounds.

02:35:28.000 Three round beating.

02:35:28.000 Oh, okay.

02:35:29.000 I always feel like I'm particularly quiet because I'm watching the fights.

02:35:33.000 Did he stop him in the third round?

02:35:34.000 No, no.

02:35:34.000 He just overwhelmed him.

02:35:35.000 It was a decision.

02:35:36.000 Yeah.

02:35:37.000 Overwhelmed him.

02:35:38.000 Just kept Los Angeles defending.

02:35:41.000 That's all he was doing was defending towards the end of the fight.

02:35:44.000 Habib.

02:35:45.000 Habib.

02:35:46.000 I've worn his hat several times.

02:35:47.000 Twice at least.

02:35:48.000 Sweaty hat.

02:35:49.000 He puts it on me when I interview him after he wins.

02:35:52.000 I forget what that thing's called, the big crazy hat.

02:35:55.000 It's called a babushka, I think.

02:35:56.000 Is it?

02:35:56.000 Uh-huh.

02:35:57.000 Really?

02:35:57.000 Babushka.

02:35:58.000 Are you sure?

02:35:59.000 Look it up.

02:36:00.000 What is that thing called?

02:36:01.000 Find out what that thing's called.

02:36:02.000 That might be just a wig, but I think it's a babushka. 0.50

02:36:04.000 No, no, no.

02:36:05.000 It's a warm hat, man.

02:36:07.000 It's probably like lamb's fur or sheep fur or something like that.

02:36:11.000 There it is.

02:36:11.000 What is it called?

02:36:12.000 No.

02:36:13.000 That's not it?

02:36:14.000 Well, babushka's a grandmother, but the hat, I think the hat, headscarf tied under the chin. 0.92

02:36:18.000 Okay.

02:36:18.000 There you go.

02:36:20.000 Well, what is that?

02:36:21.000 Well, just Google Nurmagomedov's hat.

02:36:24.000 Maybe it's for babushka hat.

02:36:26.000 And someone will have the name of it.

02:36:27.000 I don't think it's a babushka, bro.

02:36:29.000 I think it kind of looks like a babushka, but I think it's a...

02:36:32.000 See, is that a babushka?

02:36:35.000 Okay, well, just Google Nurmagomedov's hat.

02:36:39.000 Because he comes from a very particular place, Dagestan, and they have their own kind of hat. 0.82

02:36:45.000 Is it Dagestan?

02:36:47.000 Yeah, see right there, Habib Nurmagomedov hat.

02:36:50.000 Habib hat.

02:36:51.000 Maybe it's just called a Habib hat.

02:36:52.000 Find out what it is.

02:36:53.000 There it goes.

02:36:55.000 Dagestani.

02:36:56.000 Distinctive hat.

02:36:56.000 The heritage behind it is distinctive hat.

02:36:59.000 Papeka.

02:37:00.000 P-A-P-A-K-H-A. Man, it means hat.

02:37:04.000 They call it hat.

02:37:05.000 They're a matter-of-fact people.

02:37:07.000 It says a very shaggy, wild papeka, and papeka simply means hat.

02:37:12.000 On-born lamb fur?

02:37:13.000 Jesus Christ.

02:37:14.000 So when is he...

02:37:15.000 What is it?

02:37:16.000 On-born lamb fur?

02:37:17.000 Unborn lamb.

02:37:18.000 What?

02:37:18.000 He made the hat wear of the fur of unborn lamb.

02:37:21.000 How's that...

02:37:22.000 Is that real?

02:37:23.000 Yeah.

02:37:24.000 It's super soft.

02:37:25.000 They give birth to them like that? 1.00

02:37:27.000 No, they take it out of the womb. 1.00

02:37:28.000 That doesn't make any sense.

02:37:29.000 They take it out of the womb and they take the fur that's already there because it's extra soft.

02:37:34.000 But does that make sense that they could get that much fur that long inside the womb?

02:37:38.000 Yeah, they do that stuff too. 0.75

02:37:40.000 So one car company, I can't remember, was using Cow Fetus.

02:37:44.000 Because the leather was super soft. 1.00

02:37:47.000 Shut the fuck up. 1.00

02:37:47.000 Swear to God. 1.00

02:37:48.000 What company?

02:37:49.000 I think it was Infinity.

02:37:50.000 No way.

02:37:51.000 I think how many animals they'd have to kill, B. They were using cow fetus. 1.00

02:37:56.000 Cow fetus is like, it's in the womb and it's so soft. 0.98

02:38:00.000 It's pretty fucking brutal if you think about it. 0.98

02:38:03.000 Infinity was doing that? 0.98

02:38:04.000 You better not say that.

02:38:06.000 They'd be getting sued.

02:38:07.000 It was some car company.

02:38:08.000 You're going to get sued.

02:38:09.000 I will.

02:38:10.000 No, you're going to get sued.

02:38:12.000 Yeah, they're going to sue me because they waited for the cat to be born, then they used it.

02:38:16.000 Wow, how weird, huh?

02:38:18.000 Well, you know, that's what lamb is.

02:38:20.000 I was trying to explain something.

02:38:21.000 They're like, what's the difference between sheep and lamb?

02:38:22.000 A lamb's a baby sheep.

02:38:24.000 It's a baby sheep.

02:38:24.000 And someone looked at me like, what?

02:38:25.000 I go, yeah, it's a baby sheep.

02:38:26.000 How do you know that?

02:38:27.000 It's delicious.

02:38:29.000 Yeah, you didn't know that?

02:38:30.000 Where lamb skin condoms are made from baby sheep?

02:38:33.000 Uh-huh. 0.99

02:38:33.000 Goddamn, that's sad. 0.99

02:38:35.000 There's a difference between a lamb and a sheep. 0.99

02:38:37.000 Like, if you eat lamb, you're eating a baby sheep.

02:38:40.000 But if you eat mutton, you're eating a sheep.

02:38:42.000 That's right.

02:38:42.000 So, like, the people in, like, Scotland eating mutton.

02:38:45.000 Scotland.

02:38:45.000 They're eating that stuff.

02:38:46.000 That's a different, that's a much more gamey.

02:38:48.000 But don't kill the lambs. 1.00

02:38:49.000 I don't fuck with lambs. 1.00

02:38:50.000 I slaughter the lambs. 1.00

02:38:52.000 It's really good for you. 1.00

02:38:53.000 Slaughter those fuckers. 1.00

02:38:54.000 It's really like a very healthy protein. 1.00

02:38:56.000 Very easy to digest, too.

02:38:58.000 I love lamb. 1.00

02:38:59.000 Don't fuck with lamb or pig, really. 1.00

02:39:01.000 I do. 1.00

02:39:02.000 You don't fuck with pig? 1.00

02:39:02.000 I eat pig. 1.00

02:39:03.000 You're not on that bacon thing?

02:39:04.000 I eat lamb. 1.00

02:39:06.000 I eat pussy. 1.00

02:39:07.000 Yeah, I like bacon. 1.00

02:39:08.000 Bacon's good.

02:39:08.000 But I don't like domesticated pigs.

02:39:11.000 The whole pig industry, it bothers me because pigs are smart.

02:39:14.000 And they're all penned up like that. 0.97

02:39:16.000 There's only one way to get bacon outside of that.

02:39:20.000 You've got to find a dude who's a farmer who's ethical.

02:39:23.000 You've got to find a guy who's a farmer.

02:39:25.000 It's too tough.

02:39:27.000 This has got Joel Salatin.

02:39:29.000 Yeah, Joel Salatin, what he does is he has a giant piece of land, and he moves his pigs around with electric fences.

02:39:36.000 So he sets up an electric perimeter, and then he moves it, sets up a new electric perimeter, and then he moves it.

02:39:41.000 So they're constantly foraging like regular pigs.

02:39:44.000 They love to forage.

02:39:45.000 But they're constantly contained.

02:39:46.000 So they're domesticated.

02:39:48.000 But they have dark meat, like a wild pig does. 1.00

02:39:51.000 Because the other pigs, aren't they eating just their shit, everything? 1.00

02:39:54.000 They're eating bullshit? 1.00

02:39:55.000 They eat everything they can get their hands on. 1.00

02:39:57.000 It's a hard, scrabble life.

02:39:58.000 They do it.

02:40:00.000 The Imbérico ham, the Blackfoot hog, they eat acorns. 1.00

02:40:04.000 That's why that fucking prosciutto is... 1.00

02:40:05.000 I got some in that dick. 1.00

02:40:06.000 That refrigerator back there. 1.00

02:40:07.000 Yeah.

02:40:08.000 My buddy brought them back.

02:40:09.000 Chris Ryan, Dr. Chris Ryan, brought it back from Spain.

02:40:12.000 What, is it salami or something?

02:40:13.000 You're going to have to cut me off some stuff?

02:40:14.000 No, it's like prosciutto.

02:40:16.000 It's the best prosciutto in the world. 1.00

02:40:17.000 The fuck? 1.00

02:40:18.000 We could have a fight companion with pig prosciutto. 1.00

02:40:20.000 You guys would be smacking into the...

02:40:21.000 I'm going to have to get some of that.

02:40:23.000 Just animated gifs of you popping peanuts in your mouth and chewing.

02:40:27.000 I'll snack in some nuts.

02:40:29.000 All of us.

02:40:30.000 All of us are guilty.

02:40:31.000 We didn't drink any wine in this one.

02:40:33.000 We didn't.

02:40:33.000 That's why it was a good podcast.

02:40:35.000 Good point.

02:40:36.000 No more wine.

02:40:37.000 I'm afraid I'm the wine master and I must reserve the wine for after the five companions.

02:40:43.000 Sometimes we just get a little hammered.

02:40:45.000 A little hammered, a little high.

02:40:46.000 Wine gets you going, man.

02:40:48.000 A little ridiculized.

02:40:49.000 This is a non-drunk podcast.

02:40:51.000 Yeah, it was a noon podcast.

02:40:52.000 We're responsible.

02:40:53.000 We're all parents.

02:40:54.000 Good God.

02:40:54.000 We're Four Dads.

02:40:56.000 This is our new sitcom.

02:40:56.000 It's called Four Dads.

02:40:57.000 Four Dads Escape.

02:40:59.000 Four Dads.

02:41:00.000 We don't watch the fights.

02:41:01.000 We don't know what's going on.

02:41:03.000 This is the only place where we can be ourself.

02:41:06.000 Because we live with women. 1.00

02:41:09.000 With women. 0.98

02:41:10.000 And by ourselves we mean we talk about fighting at nauseam. 1.00

02:41:14.000 You get all those four bitches to move into a house together and take care of the kids. 1.00

02:41:18.000 And we'll move into a house right next door. 1.00

02:41:20.000 Yep.

02:41:20.000 And just have fight companions every day.

02:41:22.000 And swap!

02:41:23.000 They can come over and go, this place smells like men. 0.99

02:41:26.000 Ew.

02:41:26.000 They come over and pick up your sock.

02:41:28.000 Is this yours, Brandon? 1.00

02:41:30.000 Brian, you left pizza on the fucking counter. 0.99

02:41:33.000 Sorry. 0.99

02:41:33.000 We're like, sorry. 0.99

02:41:35.000 You live over in their world, bro.

02:41:37.000 You gotta live by their rules.

02:41:38.000 You gotta not use those special towels.

02:41:41.000 You know, like, did you use the towel that's hanging?

02:41:44.000 It's a towel. 1.00

02:41:45.000 It's a fucking towel. 1.00

02:41:46.000 Of course I used it. 1.00

02:41:46.000 That's a decorative towel. 1.00

02:41:47.000 This is a different kind of towel.

02:41:49.000 And it's guys.

02:41:49.000 We sleep in the same bed, but it's guys.

02:41:51.000 We're like, this is awesome.

02:41:52.000 We're naked.

02:41:52.000 We don't care.

02:41:54.000 We're not scared of dicks. 0.99

02:41:55.000 I got a morning heart on you guys. 0.99

02:41:57.000 Look at this thing.

02:41:58.000 I'm not scared.

02:41:58.000 Brennan, grab it.

02:41:59.000 Let's see how big your hand is on my dick. 1.00

02:42:01.000 Who came first? 1.00

02:42:03.000 I'm down.

02:42:03.000 I'm down, man.

02:42:04.000 My prostate's big because I'm older, so I'm dribbling, you guys. 0.99

02:42:07.000 Eddie, you'll see you shoot. 0.93

02:42:08.000 One of the things I think about Brian whenever we go on these hunting trips is like it's all dudes. 0.99

02:42:13.000 We're all like, and Rannell and his crew who are this fucking salt of the earth. 0.97

02:42:16.000 We're hanging around just laughing. 0.97

02:42:18.000 I'm like, this is what we're supposed to do.

02:42:21.000 It's true.

02:42:21.000 What men are supposed to do is get in these groups and they go out and they just leave the women alone.

02:42:24.000 The women talk shit about you while you're gone. 1.00

02:42:26.000 And then enough time passes where they miss you. 0.99

02:42:29.000 And you come back and they meet you at the door and you hug.

02:42:31.000 This is traditional.

02:42:32.000 That's right.

02:42:33.000 When you're all on top of each other all the time, it just wears on each other.

02:42:36.000 Right.

02:42:36.000 And we have so much fun on this.

02:42:38.000 Those hunting trips are all one big comedy show.

02:42:40.000 Well, it's all men being men. 0.87

02:42:41.000 Yeah.

02:42:42.000 It's saying things that would get you in real trouble if people heard. 0.77

02:42:45.000 Don't you feel like you're doing that in general, though, when you're doing your comedy and hanging out with your friends and the companions and shit?

02:42:50.000 Yes, but when you're in the middle of Alaska, like we're literally miles from anything, including other animals, by the way, you just end up... 0.99

02:42:58.000 There's something that happens to you where you just want to say the most outrageous shit. 0.98

02:43:01.000 Because you're like, how can I one-up... 0.99

02:43:03.000 Joe, now, I'm going to say something outrageous that's going to even shock me.

02:43:06.000 No, I get that, but you could do it at dinner, though, right?

02:43:09.000 Yeah, but there's a difference. 0.94

02:43:11.000 When you're in the woods and you're doing this, and me and Brian are specifically geared for fucking with each other in those kind of situations. 0.94

02:43:19.000 And I also know that what he's saying, he doesn't mean, and he's joking, and I'm expecting him to take it to another place that's even more fucked up, and it just keeps going. 0.93

02:43:28.000 And when we were in Montana the first time, it was literally $5. 0.99

02:43:31.000 Days of gay jokes. 1.00

02:43:33.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

02:43:33.000 And with a few wife-beating jokes thrown in there. 0.99

02:43:37.000 I took a shit. 1.00

02:43:38.000 A few choke-fuck jokes. 1.00

02:43:40.000 I took a shit and Joe took a fucking... 1.00

02:43:43.000 He put a flag in it. 1.00

02:43:44.000 I made an aluminum foil flag. 1.00

02:43:46.000 He fucking put a flag in it. 1.00

02:43:47.000 In my shit. 1.00

02:43:49.000 Terrible shit, too. 1.00

02:43:50.000 A terrible mountain. 1.00

02:43:52.000 Dehydrated mountain. 1.00

02:43:54.000 You don't bury your shit in the woods? 1.00

02:43:55.000 I'm not fucking buried. 1.00

02:43:56.000 I'm in the middle of... 0.99

02:43:56.000 Dude, that place sucked. 0.99

02:43:59.000 I'm sorry about the shit. 1.00

02:44:00.000 Nobody's going to be like, God damn it, in the Missouri Brakes where it's all clear and nothing. 1.00

02:44:04.000 How dare you take a shit there? 1.00

02:44:05.000 You ruined the landscape. 1.00

02:44:07.000 Fuck. 1.00

02:44:07.000 It was a mustard poo. 1.00

02:44:08.000 You were supposed to take it and put it in bags, and most of the time we did that.

02:44:13.000 No bags.

02:44:14.000 Why?

02:44:14.000 Occasionally, because you're supposed to protect the environment from your poo.

02:44:18.000 You don't want a bunch of shit, especially your shit after you've been eating that dehydrated mountain food that comes in a pouch. 1.00

02:44:23.000 You can't just bury it? 1.00

02:44:25.000 You can bury it too.

02:44:26.000 Yeah, I buried it.

02:44:26.000 That's probably the best way.

02:44:27.000 You can bury it or you can put a flag in it.

02:44:29.000 No, you bury it like a gentleman.

02:44:30.000 With a message that says, Brian was here. 0.99

02:44:32.000 Well, he shit on a log and then I put an aluminum foil. 0.98

02:44:35.000 I'm seeing if I have it in here. 0.99

02:44:36.000 Aluminum foil flag in the log.

02:44:38.000 Yeah.

02:44:39.000 It was good times.

02:44:40.000 Yeah, and by the way, we were in our late 40s.

02:44:42.000 Yes.

02:44:42.000 This was a couple months ago.

02:44:44.000 Tax-paying adults.

02:44:45.000 Tax and adults.

02:44:46.000 How often do you think you guys could do that?

02:44:49.000 Like once a year?

02:44:50.000 I do it.

02:44:51.000 I could do it once a month.

02:44:52.000 Once a month. 1.00

02:44:52.000 I mean, if I'm with him, which is the fun of being an idiot. 1.00

02:44:55.000 You can go hunting once a month. 1.00

02:44:56.000 No, but being an idiot, being out there and being miserable, but kind of having fun at the same time, there's something about it that makes... 1.00

02:45:02.000 It brings out, in many ways, the best of you. 1.00

02:45:05.000 You have a good time, even though you're miserable.

02:45:07.000 It's bonding. 0.98

02:45:08.000 You're miserable, and you're cold, and you're wet, but you're laughing your ass off.

02:45:11.000 When we finally made that fire, have you ever enjoyed a fire that much? 0.97

02:45:16.000 Never.

02:45:16.000 We were rained on for five days in a row, and then we finally got a dry night, and we got a bunch of the guys from camp to find as many small pieces of dry wood as we could.

02:45:25.000 We stacked it on top of each other and started lighting Fritos.

02:45:28.000 You were wet.

02:45:30.000 Joe didn't bring the proper rain gear.

02:45:31.000 He was basically wet, including his sleeping bag.

02:45:34.000 He was wet the whole time.

02:45:35.000 And I remember we were in that tent, and I was looking at you, and you were just talking, but you were shaking.

02:45:40.000 You were shivering.

02:45:41.000 Constantly like a little shiver.

02:45:42.000 And your lips were going, and they were jiggling back and forth.

02:45:46.000 You had a set of lips on you.

02:45:47.000 You had a set of lips.

02:45:48.000 He's got huge lips.

02:45:50.000 And you just kept talking and it was just, guess what? 0.99

02:45:53.000 It's the morning, our body temperature is low, we're wet, we're cold as fuck, and we're going to be cold until we start walking. 0.95

02:45:59.000 Yeah, but once you start walking, even though you're wet, you're wearing wool clothes. 0.73

02:46:02.000 That's the thing about those first light merino wool.

02:46:04.000 Keeps you warm even when you're wet.

02:46:06.000 How many days?

02:46:07.000 We were there for six days.

02:46:09.000 It was awesome though, man.

02:46:10.000 Even though it sucked, I think about the memory and it was awesome.

02:46:13.000 And then also the landscape was awesome.

02:46:15.000 It's so wild there, man. 1.00

02:46:17.000 You guys should do that shit every Saturday at Runyon or some shit. 0.99

02:46:20.000 You'd be surprised though because the memory brings you back. 1.00

02:46:23.000 That's turkey hunting.

02:46:24.000 Look at that.

02:46:24.000 Look at how handsome I am.

02:46:25.000 I mean, we are.

02:46:26.000 That was in Northern California.

02:46:28.000 That was hilarious because we would go turkey hunting during the day and then Brian and I would go to the finest restaurants at night because there was all these amazing restaurants in Napa.

02:46:38.000 Oh, really? 0.99

02:46:39.000 And these fucking guys wanted to pretend they were camping, so they went back to this Airbnb house and made fucking burgers. 1.00

02:46:45.000 I go, come on, guys. 1.00

02:46:46.000 It's on me.

02:46:47.000 Let's go eat.

02:46:48.000 Let's get wine.

02:46:49.000 Yes.

02:46:50.000 They didn't want to.

02:46:50.000 Well, that's the way to do it.

02:46:51.000 Yes!

02:46:52.000 I'm down for that.

02:46:53.000 Yes, we drink the best wine and eat the best food in the world. 0.99

02:46:56.000 Brian and I went to this fucking insane restaurant and I had this short rib risotto that I still jerk off to this day. 1.00

02:47:05.000 God, that's fucking fresh. 0.99

02:47:06.000 It had like shaved squash, like a pumpkin, like a pumpkin-y I haven't eaten it today either, so I'm starving. 0.99

02:47:13.000 With risotto and this rich burgundy red wine sauce for the short ribs.

02:47:18.000 I'm getting nostalgic right now, looking at these pictures for real.

02:47:21.000 Do we have a good time, man?

02:47:22.000 You ain't gonna cry.

02:47:23.000 I just did one without you.

02:47:25.000 It wasn't as fun.

02:47:26.000 Well, you know, you didn't bring me.

02:47:28.000 Well, I couldn't. 1.00

02:47:29.000 You don't know how to shoot a bow and arrow, you fuck. 1.00

02:47:31.000 Fuck, that's right. 1.00

02:47:32.000 But you could be there for moral support and just like, hold Joe's hips. 1.00

02:47:35.000 I could have practiced and I could have held your hips while you shot. 0.76

02:47:38.000 You could do that.

02:47:40.000 I could have gotten your ear while you were drawing and I could have gone, control your breathing, control your breathing, control your breathing.

02:47:46.000 This is going to feel like what it is and it is what it is.

02:47:48.000 You know, the more spectacular thing about it or the weirdest thing about it is being introduced to the world of public land.

02:47:55.000 That's one of the weirder things about hunting that I didn't anticipate.

02:47:58.000 What do you mean?

02:47:59.000 We own human beings that live in the United States and pay taxes.

02:48:03.000 We own enormous chunks of land that are public land that you can go hiking on and rafting and you can go fishing and hunting if you have the proper tags and licenses.

02:48:15.000 And it's not like this anywhere in the world.

02:48:17.000 We have this incredible resource.

02:48:19.000 We have all this public land that you can go and explore on.

02:48:23.000 And it's all amazing.

02:48:25.000 There's so much amazing wilderness in this country.

02:48:28.000 Where were you?

02:48:28.000 We were in Nevada in the high country desert.

02:48:31.000 What is that like?

02:48:31.000 Five hours outside of Reno.

02:48:33.000 You go to Reno and then you go five hours into the desert. 1.00

02:48:35.000 Hot as fuck? 1.00

02:48:36.000 You drove five hours? 1.00

02:48:38.000 What the fuck are you hunting up there? 1.00

02:48:40.000 Mule deer. 1.00

02:48:41.000 And what's that topography like?

02:48:43.000 Oh, it's alien, man.

02:48:45.000 It's amazing.

02:48:46.000 These hills that are covered in sage and then these patches of small mahogany and like desert trees.

02:48:55.000 And there's springs.

02:48:57.000 You find springs, and the animals generally go near the springs, and the springs are really easy to find.

02:49:01.000 Because you're looking on this sort of grayish, greenish, dry landscape, and then you see these lush green patches.

02:49:08.000 And then you go to those lush green patches, and that's where there's springs, and that's where a lot of animals tend to congregate. 0.96

02:49:13.000 It's fucking amazing. 0.91

02:49:14.000 Are you allowed to use a drone to hunt? 0.99

02:49:17.000 No.

02:49:17.000 In most states, they're starting to stop that.

02:49:20.000 But in some states, yes.

02:49:21.000 Some states, it's illegal.

02:49:22.000 And most of what they're doing is they're using them to spot.

02:49:26.000 It's super controversial what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do.

02:49:29.000 With technology?

02:49:30.000 Yeah.

02:49:31.000 In Nevada, where we were, you're allowed to use walkie-talkies.

02:49:34.000 So you could tell me where a deer is, and it's totally illegal.

02:49:37.000 But if we were in Montana, that would be illegal. 0.99

02:49:40.000 How the fuck are they going to tell? 0.96

02:49:41.000 Well, you don't just don't... 0.98

02:49:43.000 If you have rules, you really should follow them.

02:49:46.000 Because the rules that are in place...

02:49:47.000 It's so fucking hard, if you are bow and arrow hunting, to close in on a mule deer. 0.90

02:49:53.000 It's so hard that they're like, yeah, go ahead, use a walkie-talkie. 0.98

02:49:56.000 Yeah.

02:49:57.000 But Montana's like, yeah, but what if a guy has a rifle?

02:50:02.000 We have to kind of have universal rules across the bat.

02:50:04.000 And if you have a rifle in Montana, you're dealing with much more wooded area.

02:50:08.000 You could kind of pinpoint where the animal is maybe a little bit better.

02:50:11.000 Maybe it's a little too much.

02:50:13.000 And Montana's like a real traditional state.

02:50:15.000 Like, they don't even allow lighted arrow knocks.

02:50:17.000 You can't have a light on your arrow sight, on your bow sight.

02:50:20.000 You can't have a light.

02:50:21.000 Makes sense.

02:50:21.000 Why the walkie-talkie law?

02:50:23.000 Because they don't want you to be able to have a bunch of friends.

02:50:26.000 Here's a perfect example.

02:50:28.000 One state, Arizona is famous for allowing the use of walkie-talkies and allowing the use of electronics.

02:50:36.000 And there's certain tags that are really hard to draw.

02:50:39.000 There's a unit called 13B. And it's called the Strip.

02:50:42.000 It's a strip between Utah and Arizona.

02:50:44.000 And it's so coveted and so cherished because the animals are enormous.

02:50:49.000 And it's really well-matched.

02:50:50.000 Pull up...

02:50:51.000 Arizona Strip, Mule, Deer, Buck.

02:50:54.000 These things look like elk.

02:50:55.000 Some of them are like 270 inches. 1.00

02:50:58.000 Enormous fucking when they measure each time. 1.00

02:51:01.000 You know what else is huge? 1.00

02:51:02.000 Columbus, Ohio.

02:51:04.000 Ohio has giant whitetails.

02:51:07.000 Okay, a lot of the Midwest does.

02:51:08.000 But my point is, this one area, because it's so difficult to get a tag there, A guy will pull up one of these animals.

02:51:15.000 This is a deer, by the way.

02:51:16.000 This isn't an elk.

02:51:17.000 These are enormous deer. 0.99

02:51:18.000 Holy shit. 0.99

02:51:20.000 So this is a once-in-a-lifetime tag. 0.99

02:51:22.000 To be able to hunt one of these animals is literally once-in-a-lifetime.

02:51:26.000 Why is it so tough to hunt them?

02:51:27.000 Because they make sure that very few people can hunt them so they can keep the populations very strong and high.

02:51:33.000 Because the genetics are so powerful.

02:51:35.000 So when a guy gets a tag for a deer like this...

02:51:39.000 If you get a 13B tag for Arizona, you want to get a deer like this.

02:51:44.000 So these people literally will bring 20 of their friends.

02:51:46.000 This is a once-in-a-lifetime thing.

02:51:48.000 So your buddies come and help out, and they all get around on these different points, and they glass, meaning they set up tripods, they put on binoculars and spotting scopes, and they locate the animal, and then everyone's coordinating.

02:51:59.000 So you've got to go 100 yards down, go down there, he's at the bottom of the canyon, and then the other guy's at the other end, and he's like, we've got an eye on him out here, he's not coming this way.

02:52:08.000 That's not hunting, is it?

02:52:10.000 It is, though.

02:52:10.000 It's still difficult.

02:52:13.000 Because, first of all, it's impossible to get a tag.

02:52:15.000 But for these people, it's so important that they capitalize on this one opportunity they're ever going to have in their life to hunt in this area.

02:52:22.000 Look at that deer.

02:52:23.000 It's very controversial.

02:52:24.000 That wouldn't be hunting.

02:52:25.000 Some people say, oh, you should be able to have one guy who's communicating with you.

02:52:28.000 And some people say, you shouldn't ever be able to communicate.

02:52:31.000 It's always going to be a debate.

02:52:33.000 But with these guys, the way it's set up, you can have a bunch of people.

02:52:36.000 So...

02:52:37.000 I can tell you that even if you have a lot of people, I'm sure a lot of people leave that hunting ground empty-handed.

02:52:42.000 Of course.

02:52:42.000 The rate of success is super low.

02:52:44.000 Dude, that's an elk.

02:52:45.000 Look at that rack.

02:52:46.000 You know they're using drones to keep the rhinos safe in Africa now.

02:52:50.000 To farm?

02:52:51.000 Yeah, to make sure the poachers, and to find poachers now, the drones are a beast down there.

02:52:56.000 It's helping with that.

02:52:57.000 We're going to have to have some drone rules over the next few years because they're going to get bigger and better and quicker and easier.

02:53:03.000 And smaller and more stealthy.

02:53:04.000 Yeah, they're going to look like bugs.

02:53:05.000 Yep.

02:53:06.000 You're going to be able to spy on your ex-girlfriend by floating one right in her house when she opens her door.

02:53:12.000 Can't wait.

02:53:12.000 She's not even going to know.

02:53:13.000 Just kill everything. 1.00

02:53:14.000 She's not even going to know. 0.99

02:53:15.000 They might have silent, solar-powered, Tesla-made drones.

02:53:19.000 Alright, kids.

02:53:20.000 That's it.

02:53:21.000 You leave it on that?

02:53:22.000 I guess so.

02:53:22.000 You just reminded me I'm a Tesla.

02:53:24.000 I've got to get home, but I love all three of you.

02:53:26.000 Come see me in New York, everybody.

02:53:28.000 Where are you going to be in New York, Brian Callum?

02:53:30.000 I'll be at the Gotham Comedy Club.

02:53:31.000 You're going to be there, too. 0.99

02:53:32.000 Goddamn. 0.99

02:53:32.000 Yes, I am. 0.99

02:53:33.000 I'm doing that in November.

02:53:34.000 I'm there September 16th and 17th, Friday, Saturday.

02:53:37.000 It's a great club.

02:53:37.000 Hey, B, where are you September 22nd, though?

02:53:40.000 Buddy, we are in Oxnard, California.

02:53:42.000 Wrong.

02:53:43.000 You are dead wrong.

02:53:44.000 We are in San Jose, California.

02:53:46.000 That's what I meant.

02:53:47.000 I'm glad you're paying attention.

02:53:48.000 That's what I meant.

02:53:49.000 I meant that.

02:53:50.000 When are we in Oxnard?

02:53:52.000 That's October.

02:53:53.000 That's right.

02:53:53.000 You were just there, right?

02:53:55.000 I sure was.

02:53:56.000 How was that new club?

02:53:56.000 Loved it.

02:53:57.000 Levity Live is what it's called, right?

02:53:58.000 Levity Live, yeah.

02:53:59.000 It was great.

02:54:00.000 Nice.

02:54:01.000 Edgy Bra, September 11th, EBI. Next Sunday on UFC Fight Pass.

02:54:06.000 September 22nd.

02:54:07.000 Get tickets, see it live, EBIOfficial.com.

02:54:10.000 Check out the EBI 8 Countdown Show on YouTube. 0.99

02:54:13.000 Oh, shit, everybody. 0.98

02:54:15.000 Alright, that's it, folks. 0.99

02:54:16.000 See you soon.

02:54:16.000 Bye.

02:54:21.000 Alright, kids.

The Joe Rogan Experience - September 03, 2016

Joe Rogan Experience - Fight Companion - September 3, 2016

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