The Joe Rogan Experience - JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

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00:00:12.000 Hello, boys.

00:00:13.000 My man!

00:00:14.000 We're back in action.

00:00:14.000 What's up, bro?

00:00:16.000 We're back.

00:00:18.000 We're back.

00:00:20.000 We were just talking, and I saw Rollo calls to get off.

00:00:23.000 I told Rollo, save this for the air.

00:00:25.000 Because Rollo, years ago, shit, this had to be like at least 10 years ago.

00:00:30.000 20 years ago.

00:00:30.000 That was like 2006, 2007.

00:00:32.000 That's crazy.

00:00:33.000 So 20 years ago, Rollo calls me up and he says, Tommy Lee wants to meet you.

00:00:36.000 He wants to talk to you about something.

00:00:38.000 I go, okay, sure.

00:00:39.000 So we go to see his concert.

00:00:40.000 That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernova, the TV show.

00:00:43.000 That's right.

00:00:43.000 That was a TV show.

00:00:44.000 So he had a TV show.

00:00:45.000 It was in Long Beach.

00:00:46.000 Right, right.

00:00:46.000 It was the show.

00:00:47.000 You and Eddie came.

00:00:48.000 Me and Eddie Bravo came.

00:00:49.000 And then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room.

00:00:54.000 Like, he sets his green room up like a fucking after-hours party.

00:00:57.000 He's got, like, tapestries on the wall and candles and lights.

00:01:01.000 Yeah, you walk in, like, damn.

00:01:03.000 Like, DJ gear.

00:01:04.000 Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room.

00:01:07.000 Like, I'm lazy.

00:01:08.000 Yeah.

00:01:08.000 He's got it.

00:01:09.000 If I go on the road, I just go, what's your green room?

00:01:11.000 I'll go hang out in there.

00:01:12.000 It's like, it doesn't just walk.

00:01:13.000 But he has it set up.

00:01:14.000 Like, everywhere is like calm and relaxing and spiritual.

00:01:18.000 And so I meet Tommy, and Tommy wants to fight kid rock in the UFC.

00:01:25.000 This.

00:01:25.000 What?

00:01:26.000 What makes people think they can do this?

00:01:26.000 What?

00:01:28.000 It's for Pam Anderson's heart.

00:01:29.000 Yeah.

00:01:30.000 Well, wait, this is how it started.

00:01:31.000 This is kind of how it started that was that way with Pam.

00:01:35.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:01:35.000 Like, you know, they both were married to her. 0.94

00:01:37.000 So.

00:01:40.000 Tommy and her are always going to be connected because of the kids.

00:01:43.000 So she had split up with Kid Rock, and Kid Rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her.

00:01:50.000 Tommy is with her, not together, but, you know, they were together that day.

00:01:55.000 And she asks him, you know, you're friends with him.

00:01:59.000 Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and shit?

00:02:02.000 And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit.

00:02:05.000 Oh, boy.

00:02:06.000 And she's like, you know, please.

00:02:08.000 So he winds up hitting, you know, You know, him up and like, look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call, blah, blah, blah.

00:02:14.000 Of course, Kid Rock took the heat, fuck you, you know, blah, blah.

00:02:17.000 So they're fucking each other back and forth, goes away.

00:02:22.000 Now, there was some MTV Awards thing.

00:02:27.000 And actually, let me back up first.

00:02:29.000 We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing, and there was this rumor that Kid Rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and come to Tommy's room and attack us.

00:02:40.000 So, me, my man Kemo, who you know as well, we're sleeping in Tommy's room hoping they show up.

00:02:46.000 And.

00:02:48.000 Of course, they go to a different room.

00:02:50.000 They do go to a room, kick a door in, I think totally.

00:02:54.000 So they actually went looking for him?

00:02:55.000 For real?

00:02:56.000 I don't think they went looking for him.

00:02:57.000 I think it was a big publicity fucking scene.

00:03:00.000 They sign some autographs and they keep it moving.

00:03:02.000 So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, yo, dude, I go, fuck him.

00:03:08.000 I go, you should fight him on pay per view.

00:03:10.000 Imagine all the money that we make.

00:03:12.000 I go, I'll fight his fucking security guy.

00:03:14.000 Like, we'll fucking make a whole thing of it.

00:03:16.000 And he goes, man, that's brilliant.

00:03:18.000 Oh, my God.

00:03:18.000 So I go, I go, You know, I'm telling you, I said, you should do.

00:03:22.000 I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up, or he punks out and you win either way.

00:03:29.000 And he's like, he's like, yeah, yeah, I like this.

00:03:32.000 So he talks to his management.

00:03:33.000 Of course, it just goes by the wayside.

00:03:35.000 Well, they're having some MTV Awards shit.

00:03:39.000 Security's not allowed on the floor there.

00:03:41.000 They had their own, like, you know, it was in a casino to have security for it.

00:03:46.000 While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rockley comes up.

00:03:50.000 Kind of behind him and pokes him, and Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up.

00:03:54.000 Kid Rock suckers him there.

00:03:56.000 He hit him.

00:03:56.000 Yeah.

00:03:57.000 What?

00:03:57.000 And I'm home.

00:03:58.000 My phone is getting blown the fuck up.

00:04:00.000 Like, what happened with Tommy?

00:04:01.000 What happened with Tommy?

00:04:02.000 I'm like, I don't fucking know.

00:04:03.000 Like, I'm not with him right now.

00:04:05.000 And I get a call.

00:04:07.000 I swear, like 30 minutes later, and it's Tommy.

00:04:10.000 And he's going, fuck him.

00:04:12.000 He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker.

00:04:14.000 I want to fight him.

00:04:14.000 I'm going to fucking fight him now.

00:04:16.000 I go, he goes, I want you to train me.

00:04:18.000 I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out.

00:04:20.000 I go, no.

00:04:21.000 You're moving to me. 1.00

00:04:22.000 I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little fucking ass kissers.

00:04:27.000 I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it.

00:04:29.000 Was he working out at all at the time?

00:04:30.000 No.

00:04:31.000 So, you know, the only working out he does is on the drums, which he does murder.

00:04:36.000 That is a little bit of arm conditioning.

00:04:38.000 That's like a little punchy ass.

00:04:38.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:04:40.000 And I can show you a picture of him with a choke on me, and it's legit.

00:04:40.000 Definitely.

00:04:44.000 Like, he did train with Horian, and I told you guys he trained some with Billy Blank.

00:04:51.000 So, I've talked about this on the He's for real, right?

00:04:55.000 He was a bad motherfucker.

00:04:57.000 He was one of those like Raymond Daniels type karate point fighting characters. 1.00

00:05:01.000 Yeah, he's a Tybo guy. 0.93

00:05:03.000 He's a Tybo guy, but we'll get to that. 1.00

00:05:05.000 All right, yeah, so I bring him in, and I told him, I said, Look, when we're going to Long Beach, I said, I know Rogan. 1.00

00:05:15.000 I can have him come in, and you can tell him your idea.

00:05:18.000 And he goes, All right, all right.

00:05:19.000 So I bring Joe and Eddie.

00:05:21.000 They meet him.

00:05:21.000 He tells Joe he wants to fight him, literally, and Tommy said his sanctuary was his management company at the time.

00:05:30.000 I don't know if he still is or not.

00:05:32.000 So they call Kid Rock's people, supposedly, and offer this fucking fight on pay per view.

00:05:39.000 And Kid Rock's people wound up calling back and basically turning it down, saying whoever loses is ruined for life, I guess, because looking like a bitch, because they both had the rock and roll, tough guy, you know, image thing.

00:05:56.000 So that's literally how it.

00:05:58.000 How it stopped was that in print?

00:06:00.000 What's whoever loses this is ruined, or was that?

00:06:03.000 No, no, no, that was that was supposedly the response from Kid Rock's management to Tommy's management.

00:06:10.000 That is correct, he would be correct, you know.

00:06:12.000 Yeah, but even if it's a good fight, like a Stefan Bonner and Boris.

00:06:17.000 Oh my god, well, that would be different.

00:06:19.000 Then they both be revolutionary.

00:06:21.000 I kind of forget who won that fight.

00:06:23.000 Stefan Bonner, Forrest Griffin.

00:06:25.000 Yeah, Forrest won that game.

00:06:26.000 I know Forrest won it, but I kind of forget because the fight was.

00:06:28.000 It was so good.

00:06:29.000 It wasn't a bad fight.

00:06:30.000 That was one of the most toss up fights of all time.

00:06:32.000 Like, who fucking knows what happened?

00:06:32.000 Yeah.

00:06:34.000 And Dana did the right thing.

00:06:35.000 He contracted both of them.

00:06:36.000 We actually talked about it in the Octagon right before he did it.

00:06:36.000 It was amazing.

00:06:39.000 Did you really?

00:06:39.000 Wow.

00:06:40.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.000 He should give both these motherfuckers a bonus.

00:06:43.000 He's like, we're going to do that.

00:06:44.000 I'm like, fuck yeah.

00:06:45.000 It was amazing.

00:06:46.000 Do you think if it wasn't for the Ultimate Fighter, it would have died out?

00:06:50.000 Who knows, man?

00:06:51.000 But it was like lightning in a bottle because there was another good fight before that.

00:06:55.000 Diego Sanchez.

00:06:56.000 Fuck Kenny Florian up, man.

00:06:58.000 That was a one way beating.

00:07:00.000 But that was Diego Sanchez coming up.

00:07:03.000 People got to see Diego fight too many fights.

00:07:05.000 They got to see the later fights.

00:07:07.000 They forgot what a monster Diego was in his prime.

00:07:10.000 He was a cardio animal.

00:07:12.000 The question is grappling.

00:07:13.000 I mean, Marcelo got him, but he hung with one of the best of all time.

00:07:17.000 Justin ADCC.

00:07:19.000 Diego was a fucking.

00:07:21.000 I don't know.

00:07:22.000 Listen, man.

00:07:23.000 You can only get hit so many times.

00:07:25.000 And he was at halfway gone before.

00:07:25.000 Agreed.

00:07:28.000 Take well, he was always like this open minded, weird thinker.

00:07:31.000 Remember, he had that guy that was training him that you had a little bit of a disagreement with.

00:07:35.000 What about that loser, Joshua Fabia?

00:07:38.000 Yeah, don't mention his name.

00:07:42.000 Yeah, well, he had Diego hanging upside down, punching him in his face.

00:07:46.000 Yeah, well, the video's insane.

00:07:49.000 The video's insane, but Diego was like super, super open minded.

00:07:53.000 Like, he was willing to believe in magic.

00:07:56.000 He was, you know what I'm saying, like, he believed in himself so much.

00:07:59.000 That Diego was like, and he was also like doing weird stuff.

00:08:02.000 Like, he would chew meat and spit it out.

00:08:05.000 He would just chew it down, like, get all the juices from it, and then spit whatever's left out.

00:08:10.000 You wouldn't swallow the meat.

00:08:11.000 But he was fun to watch.

00:08:12.000 He didn't come out and he was fucking an animal.

00:08:16.000 He was a fucking animal.

00:08:18.000 Steve Maxwell trained him for the fight with BJ Penn and got him in insane shape.

00:08:24.000 But unfortunately, that was the fight where BJ started. 0.67

00:08:27.000 That was when BJ was training with the Marinoviches.

00:08:29.000 He was leaping out of pools.

00:08:31.000 BJ was unstoppable.

00:08:32.000 Yeah.

00:08:33.000 There was a time where I would say, watch BJ in his prime.

00:08:36.000 I'll put that dude up against anybody.

00:08:38.000 BJ in his prime.

00:08:39.000 There's no doubt.

00:08:40.000 I always say he's the best 55 of all time.

00:08:42.000 He was a human winner.

00:08:43.000 In that window, right?

00:08:44.000 In that window, when he beat Matt Hughes.

00:08:46.000 Yeah, he was a human winner.

00:08:49.000 Yeah.

00:08:50.000 But you did a lot better with him than I did.

00:08:52.000 I didn't want to bring that up.

00:08:53.000 I thought you did.

00:08:54.000 I thought you had a League of Mat World Championship caliber jujitsu.

00:08:58.000 Yeah.

00:08:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:59.000 And a guy like him relies on jujitsu a lot.

00:09:03.000 You know, but BJ was just.

00:09:06.000 I was.

00:09:06.000 There's two fights.

00:09:07.000 The Kenny Ford.

00:09:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:09:09.000 Sean Shirk flight.

00:09:10.000 The Sean Shirk fight was prime BJ.

00:09:13.000 Prime BJ.

00:09:13.000 Yeah.

00:09:14.000 And then Diego Caracas.

00:09:15.000 What about Joe Stevens?

00:09:17.000 That's another one, too.

00:09:18.000 But Diego was like more highly ranked than Joe.

00:09:18.000 Yeah.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:22.000 Wrecked Cal Uno.

00:09:23.000 Well, I mean, he was a beast.

00:09:24.000 Look what he did to Matt Hughes when he took the title.

00:09:26.000 He was a beast.

00:09:26.000 Yeah.

00:09:27.000 Matt Hughes was just like, you're coming up to my way class?

00:09:29.000 Right.

00:09:30.000 Yeah.

00:09:30.000 That type of thing.

00:09:32.000 He was a Wolverine.

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.000 The dude who would fight people at 200.

00:09:35.000 Fuck.

00:09:35.000 Leoto Machita, 200 pounds.

00:09:37.000 That's crazy. 1.00

00:09:38.000 He was a woman.

00:09:39.000 He's a good guy about that. 1.00

00:09:40.000 Fucking animal.

00:09:41.000 And did real good.

00:09:42.000 Scary on the feet.

00:09:44.000 A natural 55er who fought as low as 45.

00:09:47.000 He went down to 45 for a while.

00:09:47.000 Remember?

00:09:50.000 Bro, BJ was a monster in his prime.

00:09:52.000 He was well rounded, too, before guys were super well rounded.

00:09:56.000 Like, he threw hands well.

00:09:58.000 If he just had the will to go through those Marinovich camps every fight, he would have been unstoppable.

00:10:05.000 BJ would, you know, he would just lose his focus a little bit.

00:10:08.000 I watched a YouTube documentary about, like, the rise and trajectory and then the later years.

00:10:13.000 It was really well done.

00:10:14.000 But it was all just talking about how there's this prime BJ, and that's when he was training with the Marinoviches and.

00:10:21.000 Incredible conditioning, and he could just go fight and not worry about his conditioning.

00:10:25.000 Do you think he it wasn't laziness, right?

00:10:28.000 What do you think it was?

00:10:29.000 A lot of friends, a lot of parties, the king of Hawaii, for sure.

00:10:34.000 PG Ben was the king everywhere he would go.

00:10:37.000 People were like, It's PG.

00:10:38.000 I mean, he was the king in Vegas, man.

00:10:41.000 In those prime years when he was the champ, he was a huge star, so I'm sure he's a huge star in Hilo.

00:10:46.000 He's probably hanging out with the boys all the time, having a good time.

00:10:49.000 Plus, his family like had influence there, right?

00:10:51.000 They had like money, he didn't come from poverty, but it's just like.

00:10:55.000 That it just was real hard to maintain those kind of camps.

00:10:59.000 Those camps are insane.

00:11:00.000 He was also super, super talented.

00:11:02.000 And so it's like he didn't have to work as hard to still beat up people, like in practice.

00:11:07.000 It definitely came easy.

00:11:09.000 His flexibility and leg dexterity.

00:11:10.000 Oh my goodness.

00:11:12.000 I remember when I fought him and we were doing a rules meeting.

00:11:14.000 This is the time where we could ask questions.

00:11:16.000 Like they did everybody in a rules meeting.

00:11:18.000 And I'm in the rules meeting and Frank Shamrock was in his corner.

00:11:22.000 And Frank's like, Are we allowed for in guard, kick him in the head?

00:11:27.000 I'm like, what the hell?

00:11:28.000 Like, he was talking about his flexibility just wrapping around the back of my head and kicking me in the head from there.

00:11:34.000 And I was like, what the hell is this guy insane?

00:11:37.000 Right.

00:11:37.000 I was like, how the hell is he going to be able to kick me in the head from there?

00:11:40.000 But apparently, BJ had that flexibility to be able to do that.

00:11:45.000 He could do double Lotus without using his hands.

00:11:48.000 That's crazy.

00:11:49.000 Like, sit back and just fucking completely cross, but Lotus.

00:11:53.000 Yeah.

00:11:53.000 Like, interlocked with no hands.

00:11:56.000 That's insane.

00:11:56.000 It's nuts.

00:11:57.000 Yeah.

00:11:58.000 His flexibility is bananas.

00:11:59.000 And he worked on it.

00:12:00.000 It wasn't just like a natural gift, but how smart was he to figure out if you could use your legs like you could use your arms?

00:12:06.000 They're so much fucking stronger.

00:12:08.000 Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:10.000 There he is.

00:12:11.000 That's nuts, man.

00:12:12.000 I'm saying.

00:12:13.000 He could put his own fucking leg behind his head with no hands.

00:12:17.000 That's crazy flexibility.

00:12:21.000 I'd say he was going to kick you while you were north south.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, he's going to do that.

00:12:26.000 That is nuts.

00:12:27.000 But is that legal?

00:12:28.000 No.

00:12:29.000 There's a lot of goofy rules, right?

00:12:31.000 Like that's.

00:12:32.000 I don't think it would be cool to stomp people in the head and soccer kick them, but at least knees to the head should be okay.

00:12:40.000 I agree with that. 0.98

00:12:41.000 For sure.

00:12:41.000 Because if you're shooting on a single and you're holding onto it and your head's right there, that's a stupid place to be in real life.

00:12:48.000 Right?

00:12:49.000 Let's just real life, a real fight.

00:12:51.000 Why wouldn't the guy knee you in the head?

00:12:52.000 You're grabbing his knee.

00:12:54.000 You're all in right here.

00:12:56.000 All he has to do is knee you in the face, and he can't do it because you're on your knees.

00:13:00.000 And let's be fair a knee when somebody's on their feet is worse than that.

00:13:05.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:13:05.000 Yes.

00:13:06.000 There's way more behind it.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, that's not as bad.

00:13:08.000 If you're on the floor and I knee you in the head, that's still not as bad as if me just kneeing you right in the face.

00:13:14.000 Yes.

00:13:15.000 Especially if you're the Michael Venom Page fight.

00:13:15.000 Yeah.

00:13:19.000 The cyborg.

00:13:20.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

00:13:23.000 If you ever want to know what's the most destructive strike in MMA, the most amount of power you can generate has got to be a knee.

00:13:30.000 A flying knee.

00:13:32.000 When a guy's shooting in on you.

00:13:33.000 The only thing I'm not a fan of is the.

00:13:36.000 The jab, fuck the kick to the knee.

00:13:38.000 I agree.

00:13:39.000 I'm not a fan of it.

00:13:40.000 I'm not a fan of it.

00:13:41.000 Like, yeah, like, you know, you saw what happens if you hit it right when Khalil did it.

00:13:46.000 Tedious, modestest, yeah, modest.

00:13:48.000 You know, my opinion there is it's just something that if you hit it right, it's an injury's coming and not a good one.

00:13:55.000 You can't tap.

00:13:56.000 It's not like a knee bar or something.

00:13:58.000 So I kind of think if you can't kick a guy in the side of the knee for that reason, why should you be able to fucking kick him?

00:14:04.000 If you can kick in the knees, you should be able to kick in the nuts.

00:14:07.000 I'm going to be real.

00:14:09.000 I need, like, what are we doing here?

00:14:11.000 What are we doing here?

00:14:12.000 Like, wear a cup and I can kick you in the nuts.

00:14:12.000 We're pretending.

00:14:14.000 Right.

00:14:15.000 There's some good cups out there.

00:14:16.000 I'll just get a steel one.

00:14:17.000 It's crazy.

00:14:18.000 Like, why do we have weird rules like that?

00:14:20.000 Yeah, it's crazy because, like, every time somebody gets kicked in the nuts, you say it.

00:14:24.000 You always say it.

00:14:24.000 Why don't you get a steel cup?

00:14:26.000 The fact that no one has a steel cup to me after all this time is unbelievable.

00:14:26.000 Yeah.

00:14:31.000 And it's ultimate cheap code in grappling to it.

00:14:35.000 It was somebody.

00:14:36.000 If I got your back with that thing on, yeah.

00:14:38.000 Remember Amir Renovardi?

00:14:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:14:41.000 That's a long time ago.

00:14:42.000 Yeah, a long time ago.

00:14:43.000 I trained with him at Legends, and he mounted me and he put his cup in my solar plexus.

00:14:49.000 Like I was ready to tap from his dick.

00:14:52.000 Yeah, you know?

00:14:53.000 All right, imagine my 265 deal.

00:14:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:14:58.000 And I always wore a cup when I trained, you know?

00:15:00.000 And it's also a lever for an arm bar.

00:15:03.000 Oh, man.

00:15:04.000 It's like a rod.

00:15:05.000 An arm bar already there.

00:15:06.000 How are you going to slide your elbow past that?

00:15:08.000 You know, it's a weird fucking look when the guys wear the whole spandex and they have that steel cup.

00:15:12.000 So they got like a big fucking dick in there.

00:15:15.000 The Shoney Carter cup.

00:15:16.000 Yeah, it's smart.

00:15:17.000 That's a YoL Romero.

00:15:18.000 You remember that Shoney Carter cup?

00:15:20.000 I think Eddie fucking talked about it for the entire fight.

00:15:23.000 It was a King of the Cage fight.

00:15:24.000 And Shoney was fighting and he had a giant couple.

00:15:27.000 And I swear Eddie just commentated about the size of the cup.

00:15:31.000 It was hilarious.

00:15:32.000 Bro, in the Taekwondo days, they had ones you'd put on over your pants.

00:15:36.000 So you'd have your gi pants on and then you'd put these ones on over it and it had like this big strap.

00:15:42.000 It'd go right up to your taint.

00:15:44.000 Like right literally to your asshole.

00:15:46.000 And then go all the way up like this, and you would strap it in.

00:15:48.000 But it was way better.

00:15:49.000 It was way better.

00:15:50.000 Was it like a boxing cup?

00:15:52.000 No, it was just for Taekwondo.

00:15:54.000 It was just literally designed to wear outside.

00:15:56.000 So you could kick it out.

00:15:57.000 And that's when I realized, oh, you can never wear regular cups.

00:16:00.000 Regular cups move too much.

00:16:01.000 It's just sitting there.

00:16:03.000 And sometimes your nut gets caught between the cup and your leg.

00:16:07.000 When you get hit there, it's way worse.

00:16:09.000 And I think maybe the UFC should make that mandatory.

00:16:12.000 100%.

00:16:13.000 You don't have to wear a mouthpiece?

00:16:15.000 Why don't you wear compression shorts?

00:16:16.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:16:17.000 Wear those like the Diamond MMA ones.

00:16:19.000 That's a cup I have.

00:16:20.000 I like it.

00:16:20.000 Legit.

00:16:21.000 And if you don't want to wear steel, that's fine.

00:16:23.000 You don't want to have dental floss up your asshole.

00:16:27.000 It's uncomfortable, but that's, I would think, if I was advising someone, I'd say get a fucking steel cup before they outlaw it.

00:16:35.000 Because they should outlaw it a long time ago.

00:16:37.000 You should have to wear that, though. 1.00

00:16:39.000 I mean, it would eliminate all the nutshots. 1.00

00:16:41.000 If you're smart, you would wear a steel cup 100%. 1.00

00:16:44.000 If somebody kicks you in the nuts, it'll hurt them more than it hurts you.

00:16:47.000 Like, it protects you from everything.

00:16:50.000 It's uncomfortable.

00:16:51.000 That's all it is.

00:16:52.000 Just uncomfortable.

00:16:53.000 So, I mean, so's fighting.

00:16:55.000 Yeah, yeah, so it's fighting.

00:16:56.000 So it's getting kicked in the neck.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:58.000 Dude, I can't believe it's legal.

00:17:00.000 It's like one of the.

00:17:00.000 I really do.

00:17:01.000 How do you have steel in there?

00:17:04.000 Who sees that?

00:17:05.000 I don't think anybody has steel.

00:17:06.000 A bunch of guys do.

00:17:07.000 DC wore it every fight he had.

00:17:09.000 Oh, shit.

00:17:10.000 Dude, imagine a guy diving on a double and you hip into him.

00:17:16.000 Ooh, man.

00:17:17.000 You're slamming his face with your dick.

00:17:19.000 Your dick is covered in metal.

00:17:21.000 Your dick's covered in metal.

00:17:23.000 And that's legal.

00:17:24.000 Yeah.

00:17:24.000 You have to have pads on your knuckles.

00:17:26.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:17:26.000 You have to have pads on your knuckles and you got an armor plate over your cock. 1.00

00:17:31.000 Yeah, I would definitely wear that if I was fighting.

00:17:34.000 I'm selling them.

00:17:35.000 Why not?

00:17:36.000 I'm going to start selling them on my website.

00:17:40.000 Because it's like, there's no way that should be legal.

00:17:43.000 Like, how is that legal?

00:17:43.000 Yeah.

00:17:45.000 I don't know.

00:17:45.000 It's fucking metal.

00:17:47.000 You're bringing metal into the equation.

00:17:50.000 A foot can hit metal, a knee can hit metal.

00:17:52.000 And you can do that, and the fact that no one does it?

00:17:55.000 It's not.

00:17:55.000 Well, a few guys do it.

00:17:56.000 We were talking about different guys who've done it that are currently doing it.

00:18:00.000 And I know DC did it, but there's a few guys who still do it.

00:18:03.000 And we were talking about it on one of the broadcasts.

00:18:05.000 I don't remember which guys he was pointing out, but there's a few guys.

00:18:08.000 Kenny Florian always wore a Steel Cup.

00:18:10.000 But the fact that not everyone does it from Delagrade.

00:18:13.000 Delagrade, for sure.

00:18:13.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:18:14.000 100%.

00:18:14.000 Damn.

00:18:14.000 Yeah.

00:18:15.000 That's fucking interesting.

00:18:18.000 You're here with Delagrade.

00:18:19.000 He starts talking Thai.

00:18:21.000 No, I never heard of it.

00:18:22.000 He speaks fluent Thai.

00:18:23.000 Does he really? 1.00

00:18:23.000 He's got that, he's like a Guinea from East India, from Boston. 1.00

00:18:28.000 When he talks, he can talk to Thai people, it freaks them out. 1.00

00:18:32.000 Really? 1.00

00:18:32.000 Oh, yeah, man. 1.00

00:18:33.000 He spent a lot of time in Thailand.

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00:19:47.000 Well, he's my man.

00:19:48.000 I go to Boston to stay with him.

00:19:50.000 Yeah, and his wife always cooks for me.

00:19:52.000 What a great, true, great people.

00:19:54.000 He's a maniac.

00:19:55.000 I love that dude.

00:19:56.000 On the Ultimate Fighter IV, we didn't have assigned coaches, and he would just work with us like anytime we needed him.

00:20:01.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:01.000 Yeah.

00:20:02.000 He was great.

00:20:03.000 And he would let us tackle him and fucking mount him and fucking.

00:20:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:20:07.000 Yeah, he was awesome as well.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, he's great, Mark.

00:20:09.000 He's a good coach.

00:20:10.000 He's a really good coach, too.

00:20:12.000 You know who was really impressive working with him was Kevin James.

00:20:16.000 You know, Kevin James, you know, you think of him as the king of queens.

00:20:19.000 He's worked with Mark a lot.

00:20:20.000 And Kevin's been my friend for years.

00:20:22.000 But I really hadn't seen him hit pads.

00:20:24.000 I saw him hit pads with Delagrati.

00:20:26.000 I was like, what the fuck, dude?

00:20:28.000 I'm like, that's good.

00:20:29.000 Like, this looks good.

00:20:31.000 Mark will make you look good.

00:20:32.000 Mark will make you look good.

00:20:33.000 He's a good fucking coach, man.

00:20:34.000 He's a really solid coach.

00:20:36.000 He gave Longo a black eye.

00:20:38.000 Did he?

00:20:38.000 He spawned one time with Longo, Kevin James.

00:20:41.000 Longo was walking around like fucking Petey from The Little Rascal.

00:20:41.000 Did he?

00:20:43.000 That's awesome.

00:20:45.000 He's a deceptively fast dude.

00:20:47.000 Yeah, he's athletic.

00:20:48.000 He's a big dude.

00:20:48.000 You know, for sure.

00:20:49.000 When I first met him, he was. 1.00

00:20:50.000 Jacked. 0.99

00:20:52.000 Like he wasn't as big as he got at one point in time, but he's always kind of seesawed back and forth.

00:20:56.000 But he was a karate guy.

00:20:58.000 He was always doing karate when he was younger.

00:21:00.000 He's super athletic.

00:21:01.000 There he is.

00:21:02.000 It doesn't look as good there.

00:21:03.000 It looks like me.

00:21:04.000 Yeah, it looks like me.

00:21:06.000 I think that's when he was just getting into it, honestly.

00:21:08.000 Right.

00:21:09.000 But he had Delagrati staying with him a while, and Delagrati was training him.

00:21:13.000 Yeah, I saw him in Killcliffe, just like blending in with the guys.

00:21:17.000 Like he wasn't like standing out.

00:21:18.000 He was just at Killcliffe, just where I was.

00:21:20.000 Training, yeah, blending in with the guys.

00:21:22.000 He's a great guy.

00:21:23.000 I've known him forever.

00:21:24.000 I just seen him in either Becky or The Wrath of Becky.

00:21:28.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:29.000 That's a good show.

00:21:30.000 He plays a psycho.

00:21:32.000 And the girl in it is great. 0.97

00:21:34.000 The girl's like a little psycho girl. 1.00

00:21:36.000 That's a fun movie. 1.00

00:21:37.000 It's fun.

00:21:38.000 Really?

00:21:38.000 I think it's the first one called Becky.

00:21:40.000 And he plays a villain.

00:21:41.000 He plays.

00:21:43.000 The other guy that did it was Joel McHale.

00:21:46.000 Joel McHale played the second psycho in one of the other movies.

00:21:49.000 I forget, was that the first or the second one?

00:21:51.000 I think he's in the second one, The Wrath of Becky.

00:21:53.000 Kevin was awesome.

00:21:54.000 These are good movies.

00:21:55.000 Kevin played a good psycho.

00:21:57.000 Hey, did you ever see the Night of the Seven Kingdoms?

00:22:01.000 No, I haven't seen that yet.

00:22:02.000 I'm telling you, I'm going to watch it, though, because I'm in the middle of finishing the first season of Game of Thrones.

00:22:07.000 The first year, the first all Game of Thrones.

00:22:10.000 What, you're doing it over?

00:22:11.000 Oh, you've seen it already?

00:22:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:12.000 Yeah, but I haven't seen it since like 2015 or 11.

00:22:16.000 It's fucking amazing.

00:22:17.000 I forgot so much.

00:22:18.000 It's fucking awesome.

00:22:20.000 This, you don't even have to watch any of the Game of Thrones, because this takes place 90 years before the first event of the Game of Thrones.

00:22:27.000 Sir Duncan the Tall.

00:22:29.000 And it is so good.

00:22:29.000 Yep.

00:22:31.000 It is good.

00:22:31.000 So well done.

00:22:32.000 And it's based on the novel.

00:22:34.000 I'm a fucking nerd.

00:22:36.000 I read the graphic novel of it by George R.R. Martin.

00:22:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:40.000 And I read it back in the day.

00:22:42.000 And it was, it's so great.

00:22:44.000 And you know how they have like trial by combat?

00:22:47.000 Yeah.

00:22:48.000 In this one, not to give everything away, but this guy gets into it and he has to do a trial by seven.

00:22:53.000 So it's seven on seven nights.

00:22:54.000 Yep.

00:22:55.000 And it's like one of those things.

00:22:56.000 He's a hedge knight.

00:22:57.000 It's fucking really. 0.99

00:22:58.000 Yeah, it's good.

00:22:59.000 It's a great story.

00:23:00.000 Did you ever watch The House of the Dragon?

00:23:02.000 Yes.

00:23:03.000 It's a lot of cool shit.

00:23:05.000 But there's no one to root for.

00:23:05.000 Yeah.

00:23:06.000 They're a bunch of pricks.

00:23:08.000 Right.

00:23:08.000 One's worse than the other.

00:23:09.000 Right.

00:23:10.000 I mean, back in Game of Thrones, Jon Snow, we had that.

00:23:13.000 Right.

00:23:14.000 Ned Stark.

00:23:15.000 Guys do it.

00:23:16.000 Even some guys that are, you know, even just great characters and some guys that are on, like, The Hound, who's like the anti hero.

00:23:22.000 But with this one, it's just a fucking good, solid dude trying to do the right thing.

00:23:28.000 Yep.

00:23:29.000 And, uh, And by trying to do the right thing, he gets into some trouble.

00:23:34.000 And it's just, it gives you like, it's like being righteous and have real heroics.

00:23:41.000 Some shit's missing nowadays because it's all about getting a fucking message in there or making some shit diverse, which I love, though.

00:23:41.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:50.000 You know what's really funny about it?

00:23:53.000 Game of Thrones. 1.00

00:23:55.000 Game of Thrones was like a feminist series. 1.00

00:24:00.000 If you really think about it, I mean, it really was.

00:24:02.000 But without any fanfare.

00:24:05.000 Like, no bringing it up.

00:24:07.000 No one paid attention to it. 1.00

00:24:08.000 But the baddest people on that show were the women. 1.00

00:24:11.000 Cersei Lannister was the baddest bitch in the world. 1.00

00:24:13.000 Arya Stark fucking killed everybody. 0.94

00:24:16.000 Sansa Stark kept it together through all that shit. 0.56

00:24:19.000 Brianna of Tar fucked everybody up, including the hounds.

00:24:22.000 Yeah, I didn't realize that. 0.98

00:24:24.000 I got the queen of dragons.

00:24:25.000 Yes, and you got Daenerys. 1.00

00:24:27.000 The queen of dragons, who's the baddest motherfucker on earth. 0.50

00:24:30.000 You literally can't. 1.00

00:24:31.000 Burn her and she's got three dragons. 1.00

00:24:33.000 Yeah, it's a feminist series. 1.00

00:24:35.000 I didn't even realize that. 0.99

00:24:37.000 It is, it's a completely feminist series, but without it, it never even crosses your mind because it's so good you don't care.

00:24:43.000 It's not, it's not like dumb. 0.99

00:24:46.000 You haven't watched that scene?

00:24:47.000 No, I, yeah, all right, yeah.

00:24:48.000 And House of Dragons is the same way, right? 0.99

00:24:50.000 Like, there's some of these like Star Wars movies where it's all women generals and you're like, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, and all the men are scared of them and they all like, get out of the room. 0.74

00:25:03.000 Like, this is fiction, right?

00:25:04.000 This is nonsense.

00:25:06.000 Even though that's obviously fiction too, it's way better. 0.99

00:25:10.000 A lady that has dragons. 1.00

00:25:12.000 The hottest bitch around. 1.00

00:25:13.000 She's got dragons. 1.00

00:25:14.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:25:15.000 She fucks a bunch of killers. 1.00

00:25:16.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:25:16.000 She brings them into her bed. 1.00

00:25:17.000 Well, because they do a good job of making them. 0.99

00:25:19.000 They're fucking barbarians.

00:25:20.000 Well, they do such a good job of making them flawed.

00:25:23.000 Yeah.

00:25:23.000 That you don't even realize that they are the baddest motherfuckers in the world.

00:25:28.000 But they're flawed in a way where it's like it makes them human.

00:25:32.000 I mean, look at Cersei Lanister.

00:25:32.000 Yeah.

00:25:34.000 All of her kids gone. 1.00

00:25:35.000 That bitch survives. 1.00

00:25:36.000 She's got a giant demon that watches over her. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Like she's in love with her brother.

00:25:39.000 Yeah.

00:25:39.000 Right?

00:25:41.000 She fucks her brother. 1.00

00:25:42.000 Her brother. 1.00

00:25:43.000 Her brother.

00:25:43.000 Maybe when she had the.

00:25:44.000 Well, spoiler alert.

00:25:46.000 When she had that, the priest that tortured her while she was in the cell, when they finally got her.

00:25:50.000 Yeah.

00:25:51.000 And she's like, I'm ready to meet my maker.

00:25:52.000 She's like, Oh, you're not going to die today.

00:25:54.000 Oh, man.

00:25:56.000 And then the.

00:25:58.000 He was a shot.

00:25:58.000 That was John Rolo.

00:26:01.000 That was John Rolo.

00:26:02.000 Fucking hell.

00:26:03.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:04.000 Oh, dude.

00:26:06.000 That was such a horrifying scene.

00:26:08.000 It was such a great show.

00:26:10.000 Is there a better, like, world universe than that?

00:26:13.000 No one was safe on that show.

00:26:15.000 You never knew.

00:26:16.000 The biggest character could just get.

00:26:18.000 Fucking murked like the next episode.

00:26:20.000 Yeah, Pedro Pascal that played that.

00:26:23.000 What was his character?

00:26:25.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:25.000 Dor, when he got killed by the old prince of Dor.

00:26:28.000 First of all, I never thought they would kill him.

00:26:29.000 Like, that guy's an important character.

00:26:31.000 He's bringing all this new life to the show.

00:26:33.000 And all of a sudden, you see the mountain.

00:26:34.000 Get his arm.

00:26:35.000 Knuckles into that guy's eyeballs and flushes.

00:26:38.000 Yeah, that was so crazy.

00:26:39.000 That was like one of the most disturbing murder scenes you've ever seen in your life.

00:26:39.000 Holy fuck.

00:26:43.000 And he was doing great.

00:26:44.000 He was taking the shit out of him.

00:26:45.000 He got too cocky.

00:26:46.000 Yeah, man.

00:26:46.000 He worked him over.

00:26:48.000 Thought he had him. 1.00

00:26:49.000 You raped her! 0.83

00:26:50.000 You murdered her! 1.00

00:26:51.000 You killed her children! 1.00

00:26:52.000 Some shit like that.

00:26:53.000 He kept repeating it.

00:26:54.000 Yeah, and it was strutting around with the mountains on his back.

00:26:59.000 They are.

00:26:59.000 What a crazy show.

00:27:00.000 Such a good show.

00:27:01.000 One of the greatest shows of all time.

00:27:03.000 I'm telling you, you gotta text me after you watch The Night of the Seven Kingdoms because it's all out.

00:27:07.000 You can binge it.

00:27:08.000 I'm gonna do it as soon as we're done with this.

00:27:09.000 We're on season seven now.

00:27:11.000 Six episodes.

00:27:12.000 Each episode's like 30 minutes.

00:27:14.000 Right, you run through it.

00:27:15.000 The House of Dragons never really dragged me in.

00:27:18.000 It did.

00:27:18.000 It was interesting.

00:27:19.000 You know, it was like I liked it.

00:27:19.000 Yeah.

00:27:21.000 But it wasn't the same thing.

00:27:22.000 Definitely not.

00:27:24.000 I think this, the new one is, in my opinion, better, I thought.

00:27:28.000 Oh, the Sniper, whatever.

00:27:30.000 It's Seven Kingdoms.

00:27:30.000 It's so good.

00:27:31.000 There's parts in it that just get you going, like, fuck you there.

00:27:34.000 Hell yeah.

00:27:35.000 I'm looking forward to it.

00:27:35.000 Hell yeah.

00:27:37.000 I hope they lengthen it a little bit.

00:27:38.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:27:39.000 Six half hour episodes.

00:27:41.000 But I love the relationship between the kid and the dunk.

00:27:43.000 That was the whole show.

00:27:43.000 Yeah.

00:27:46.000 cool, right?

00:27:47.000 One thing I did love about House of Dragons when they were trying to figure out who could ride a dragon.

00:27:51.000 Oh, that was cool.

00:27:51.000 And they brought all those people down there to Tesco.

00:27:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:27:55.000 Snatch.

00:27:56.000 Snatch.

00:27:56.000 You have to have some Targaryen blood.

00:27:58.000 And a lot of the Targaryens fucked a lot of regular people. 0.93

00:28:01.000 So they were searching for Targaryen blood, just taking people out of the pub and just push them in front of the drag.

00:28:06.000 That was crazy. 0.86

00:28:08.000 She first asked one of the King's Guard, like, you know, we tracked you back to whatever.

00:28:12.000 And he's like, oh, it's a great honor.

00:28:13.000 No, I want to do it.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, buddy.

00:28:15.000 Careful what you wish for, motherfucker.

00:28:17.000 That scene was nuts.

00:28:18.000 That scene was nuts. 0.89

00:28:20.000 Dude, the red wedding fucking happened. 0.90

00:28:22.000 It was the craziest shit.

00:28:23.000 We couldn't believe it was happening.

00:28:24.000 While it was happening, like, this can't be happening.

00:28:26.000 Because we're taking everybody.

00:28:27.000 It's happening.

00:28:28.000 This can't be happening.

00:28:29.000 Did you hate the ending as much as.

00:28:31.000 I did not enjoy it.

00:28:32.000 It felt to me like they had to tie it up and, like, da da da, nice little ball.

00:28:37.000 You know, I would have been almost better if it was like No Country for Old Men style.

00:28:42.000 I think all shows should be like that because life continues afterwards, right?

00:28:46.000 You don't have to tie it in.

00:28:47.000 I'm not.

00:28:48.000 You're 12.

00:28:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:50.000 Once it got past the books, it took a hit.

00:28:53.000 Yeah.

00:28:54.000 Well, that guy's a genius.

00:28:55.000 I mean, the world that guy created and the complexity of all the characters, like Tyrion Lannister and Tywin Lannister.

00:29:02.000 Oh, my gosh.

00:29:04.000 I mean, Tyrion Ransom.

00:29:05.000 Yeah, man.

00:29:06.000 I mean, that guy was so fucking good, man.

00:29:09.000 They're already doing the Sworn Sword, which is the second book of Game of Thrones of the Duncan Egg Tales.

00:29:16.000 Oh, nice.

00:29:17.000 Yeah.

00:29:17.000 Awesome.

00:29:19.000 That's his writing too?

00:29:20.000 That's his, yeah.

00:29:21.000 He also did another one.

00:29:23.000 He did three books.

00:29:24.000 A Night of the Seven Kingdoms, which they just did.

00:29:24.000 It was.

00:29:26.000 They're going to do a Sworn Sword, and then it's the Mystery Night.

00:29:30.000 I don't know anything, but I know a lot of Game of Thrones shit.

00:29:33.000 Don't ask me about anything.

00:29:34.000 Game of Thrones and Star Wars, you're my go to.

00:29:37.000 The world's so fucked up, you're way better off with that stuff in your head.

00:29:41.000 That's why I do it, man.

00:29:42.000 It's such an escape, man, just to sit home and watch TV.

00:29:45.000 That's all I do, man.

00:29:46.000 Sit home and watch TV.

00:29:47.000 Speaking of Star Wars, I got a text out of nowhere from George St. Pierre.

00:29:52.000 He loves it as much as me.

00:29:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:29:54.000 It was just about the new Darth Maul animated series.

00:29:56.000 Oh, no, I swear to God.

00:29:58.000 Yo.

00:29:59.000 And then he gave me back a report.

00:30:00.000 He told me, he's like, oh, it's so far so good.

00:30:02.000 I told you, my brother's like, I know Matt's in the Star Wars.

00:30:06.000 Tell him to watch the new Darth Maul.

00:30:08.000 You know, Jamie says, It's fun.

00:30:10.000 I love George.

00:30:11.000 He's the best.

00:30:13.000 I have the hardest time convincing people who he is.

00:30:16.000 What do you mean?

00:30:16.000 It's hilarious.

00:30:17.000 When he comes to the mothership and people that don't know anything about MMA, they're like, What does your friend do?

00:30:22.000 I go, That is one of the greatest fighters that ever walked the face of the earth.

00:30:27.000 100%.

00:30:27.000 They're like, No, for real.

00:30:28.000 I go, Yeah, 100% in everybody's list of one of the greatest of all time.

00:30:32.000 And he's like, hello, nice to meet you.

00:30:35.000 He just seems so sweet and friendly.

00:30:37.000 Man, that's the problem with MMA is that you have to convince people about how bad somebody was.

00:30:42.000 And it wasn't that long ago.

00:30:43.000 I mean, it wasn't that long ago that George St. Pierre was the fucking greatest of all time.

00:30:47.000 No, it wasn't that long ago.

00:30:48.000 And now, but the fans are so new that they don't get it.

00:30:51.000 They don't go back and watch it.

00:30:52.000 They had to watch, like, go back and watch the John Fitch fight.

00:30:55.000 Oh, man.

00:30:56.000 Prime GSP.

00:30:58.000 Prime.

00:30:59.000 He was terrifying.

00:31:01.000 Incredible gas tank, great flow between grappling and striking.

00:31:05.000 Very creative.

00:31:06.000 He put that shit together the best.

00:31:08.000 That's why he had such success taking everybody down.

00:31:11.000 He would set it up, his level change.

00:31:13.000 And he always ran through every takedown.

00:31:15.000 It was never.

00:31:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:17.000 He was going to run you across the cage.

00:31:19.000 George was phenomenal.

00:31:20.000 And then I think Farah Zahabi was a big part of that too.

00:31:23.000 Farah Zahabi's a bad motherfucker.

00:31:25.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:25.000 He's smart.

00:31:26.000 You ever watch his YouTube breakdowns?

00:31:27.000 Sometimes, yeah.

00:31:28.000 He's incredible.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:31:29.000 He's very astute.

00:31:31.000 He's so knowledgeable of the game, of every aspect of it.

00:31:35.000 His brother is doing well.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, his brother's fighting at the White House.

00:31:38.000 He's fighting Sean O'Malley, and I think people are sleeping on him.

00:31:42.000 Well, listen, he keeps winning.

00:31:44.000 Yeah.

00:31:44.000 He keeps fucking winning.

00:31:46.000 The one fight that he had that was kind of a little controversial was Aldo.

00:31:50.000 Remember, Aldo almost had it.

00:31:52.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:31:53.000 I'm not sure he won that fight.

00:31:54.000 Maybe. 1.00

00:31:55.000 Because I think they're not being generous enough with the 10 8s and the 10 7s.

00:32:00.000 They don't do it enough.

00:32:01.000 Not enough.

00:32:02.000 When a guy just tunes you up for like a minute and a half of the round and you almost go unconscious, you know, like that means a lot.

00:32:11.000 I hate the fact that they don't use it enough.

00:32:13.000 All because, like, Dana was like, oh, I don't like it.

00:32:16.000 And now the judges are just like, no, we can't do it because.

00:32:18.000 Listen, the scoring system sucks because we stole it from boxing.

00:32:22.000 It's not.

00:32:23.000 It doesn't have enough points.

00:32:25.000 For sure.

00:32:25.000 It should be like, you should get a certain amount of points for different things.

00:32:30.000 But it would be really hard to calculate because it would have to be subjective.

00:32:34.000 Like, if Pereira hits you, it's way harder than if someone's like, you know, Paul Craig.

00:32:40.000 Yeah.

00:32:40.000 Right.

00:32:41.000 No disrespect.

00:32:41.000 But you know what I'm saying?

00:32:43.000 The consequences are very different.

00:32:44.000 So if he hits you with a left hook, It's different than if Pereira hits you the left foot.

00:32:47.000 So that's subjective.

00:32:48.000 But in terms of what happens in the fight, you should be counting in submission attempts.

00:32:54.000 You should be counting in takedown attempts.

00:32:55.000 Like who was more aggressive?

00:32:57.000 Who was more defensive?

00:32:59.000 Who implemented their strategy?

00:33:01.000 You should have like 100 points to work with.

00:33:02.000 Absolutely.

00:33:03.000 He got 10 points.

00:33:04.000 Why are we only using two of them?

00:33:05.000 Nine in a 10.

00:33:06.000 I don't get it.

00:33:06.000 Why?

00:33:07.000 It doesn't make any sense because there are 10-9 rounds that are like, ah, could be anybody.

00:33:11.000 And there are 10-9 rounds where he dominated.

00:33:14.000 That's not true.

00:33:14.000 Well, see, like UFC BJJ uses that.

00:33:17.000 And it works better for that because they're very liberal with the 10 8s and 10 7s.

00:33:22.000 They use it a lot.

00:33:23.000 They're like, if it's close, it's a 10 9.

00:33:26.000 If it's one sided, it's automatically a 10 8.

00:33:29.000 So they use it a lot.

00:33:30.000 That makes more sense.

00:33:31.000 That does make more sense.

00:33:32.000 But even in BJJ, I would say you'd need more points.

00:33:36.000 You need to like, it's like the difference between a 70 30 round where a guy's dominating you 70% of the time and a 51 49 round is fucking huge.

00:33:45.000 Yeah.

00:33:46.000 It's huge and it doesn't reflect it in the scorecards at all.

00:33:48.000 Yeah.

00:33:49.000 So, like, you could win a 10 9 round the first round where it's like you're barely ahead.

00:33:54.000 Like, maybe I'll give it to you.

00:33:55.000 And then the second round, that dude fucks you up and he gets a 10 9 round because you didn't go down.

00:34:01.000 Yeah.

00:34:02.000 But he's head kicking you and you're blocking it.

00:34:04.000 You're getting teeped.

00:34:06.000 Your legs are getting kicked all the time. 0.99

00:34:07.000 It's still a 10 9 round.

00:34:09.000 That's nuts.

00:34:10.000 No.

00:34:10.000 Just because you didn't go unconscious?

00:34:12.000 Just because you didn't get knocked down?

00:34:13.000 I think it's my ADD's kicking in, but we're talking about the close calls, close scoring.

00:34:19.000 I thought Aljo.

00:34:21.000 I thought he should have got that nod against fucking. 0.97

00:34:23.000 Ivoryev? 1.00

00:34:24.000 I thought so too.

00:34:25.000 I didn't think there was a.

00:34:26.000 The guy got on the.

00:34:27.000 One question, dude.

00:34:28.000 He got on the wrestle at the end, like a minute 30 left, and Aljo was winning that whole first round.

00:34:31.000 Aljo is a nightmare for a grappling expert.

00:34:34.000 He could be undefeated at 143.

00:34:35.000 He's a nightmare, because if your whole thing is grappling with people and you got to grapple with Aljo, you got problems.

00:34:40.000 Yeah.

00:34:41.000 That dude gets your back.

00:34:42.000 He's got.

00:34:43.000 I mean, him and Jan were 10 8 rounds.

00:34:46.000 Like, he was just on his back.

00:34:47.000 Dominated him in the second round, and they don't know.

00:34:51.000 How is that not a 10 8 round?

00:34:52.000 He's fighting Youssef Salal, soon.

00:34:55.000 Yeah, yeah, Youssef's allowed.

00:34:57.000 And that's on the 25th of April.

00:34:58.000 But I mean, but I think, you know, if it hits the ground, I think there's levels to this.

00:35:03.000 Did Aljo over Jan in the second fight, was that like the best anybody's ever done with Jan?

00:35:08.000 Oh, yeah, straight up.

00:35:10.000 Right?

00:35:10.000 His control is just so good when it hits the floor.

00:35:13.000 That's the difference between him and Marab.

00:35:14.000 Marab can keep getting you down and up, down and up.

00:35:16.000 Right.

00:35:16.000 Aljo hits the floor.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, you're not good at it.

00:35:20.000 He just needs back exposure.

00:35:21.000 He's one of those.

00:35:22.000 Some guys, they can't jump up on the back.

00:35:24.000 It's not good for them.

00:35:24.000 They're going to get tired.

00:35:26.000 Dude, all day long.

00:35:27.000 He'll just go up there, lock that shit on.

00:35:30.000 If he doesn't catch him, that's his round.

00:35:32.000 Bro, the Sanhagen fight was a masterpiece.

00:35:37.000 His grappling is so, so good.

00:35:38.000 Yeah, he doesn't get proper credit.

00:35:40.000 No, this is back take.

00:35:41.000 Some of the best in the sport, period.

00:35:43.000 Man, they're not a big fan of his.

00:35:45.000 They don't push.

00:35:46.000 Wow!

00:35:47.000 He's such a nice.

00:35:48.000 I know, he does everything right.

00:35:48.000 Guy.

00:35:49.000 He's such a nice guy.

00:35:50.000 I think it's the one guy.

00:35:51.000 You know, the young fight with the neck, I think that turned everybody against him.

00:35:56.000 Those people were wrong.

00:35:58.000 It was fucked up.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, but look what happened.

00:35:59.000 And look what happened in the second.

00:36:01.000 I mean, he should have validated the entire thing by whipping his ass in the second fight.

00:36:05.000 But they already decided to hate him.

00:36:09.000 He had to get his fucking disc replaced.

00:36:11.000 It was real.

00:36:12.000 It was a real fucking injury.

00:36:14.000 He could be a two time champ, a double division champ.

00:36:17.000 I mean, he's.

00:36:18.000 In my mind, he's undefeated at 145.

00:36:21.000 Look what he did to Calvin Cater, which was a beast, but it was very impressive.

00:36:25.000 If you didn't know Calvin Cater, if that's your first fight seeing him, you'd be like, oh, that guy doesn't belong here, which he obviously does.

00:36:30.000 He's a beast.

00:36:31.000 But Alger was masterful.

00:36:34.000 He's good at not getting hit.

00:36:36.000 So it's like he's not giving you that back and forth.

00:36:40.000 And Longo says, you've seen 20% of what he could do stand up and stand it up.

00:36:44.000 Like I'd ask him something.

00:36:46.000 He's like, he could put his foot wherever he wants it.

00:36:49.000 About a kick or something.

00:36:50.000 He's just really, really talented, man.

00:36:53.000 I hope he gets his shot.

00:36:54.000 If he takes out Youssef, I hope they give him a shot again.

00:36:59.000 Because I think he could be a two time champ.

00:37:01.000 Well, listen, he's still a bad motherfucker.

00:37:03.000 He's a nightmare for everybody.

00:37:06.000 Especially if he gets a hold of you.

00:37:07.000 Yeah.

00:37:07.000 But I mean, people look at the one fight losses.

00:37:11.000 They look at the Sean O'Malley fight.

00:37:13.000 Like, Sean caught him perfect.

00:37:14.000 That's just how it was.

00:37:15.000 And, you know, his head wasn't really in that because he didn't even want to be there.

00:37:19.000 Why didn't he want to be there?

00:37:19.000 Nope.

00:37:21.000 He fought him.

00:37:22.000 They made him fight.

00:37:23.000 They made him fight that fight.

00:37:24.000 He didn't want to fight.

00:37:25.000 Yeah.

00:37:26.000 They did, like, a whole documentary on it where it was like they kind of twisted his arm to be like, you got to do this.

00:37:32.000 And they were injured.

00:37:34.000 I think he was injured.

00:37:35.000 There was a quick turnaround.

00:37:36.000 Yeah, two turnarounds.

00:37:37.000 It was just as quick a turnaround.

00:37:38.000 He's the champ.

00:37:39.000 He didn't feel he should be.

00:37:40.000 Forced into, you know.

00:37:42.000 But he thought the number, he thought the pay per view numbers was going to make up for it.

00:37:46.000 He thought he was going to get all this money from it because he was like, all right, I'll do it.

00:37:49.000 Sean O'Malley's going to bring in the numbers.

00:37:51.000 Then he said, when it was over, he saw the numbers.

00:37:53.000 He was like, if I knew the numbers was going to be like this, I don't think I'd have done it.

00:37:58.000 Yeah.

00:37:58.000 Really?

00:37:59.000 So it didn't do well.

00:38:01.000 It didn't do as well as he thought he was going to do based on Sean O'Malley's presence.

00:38:07.000 Listen, man, it takes a lot to get people to.

00:38:10.000 Pay for something today.

00:38:11.000 There's too much of it.

00:38:12.000 It's just to seal it.

00:38:14.000 This Paramount thing is genius in that regard.

00:38:16.000 Is that all you have to do is have that app, which a lot of people have already anyway.

00:38:16.000 Yeah.

00:38:19.000 Yeah.

00:38:20.000 That's genius.

00:38:21.000 But to make people pay every time to watch fights, like, there's so much to watch today.

00:38:26.000 Well, that was the one thing that my people at ESPN told me.

00:38:30.000 It was like, it's a big difference between being popular and then having people pay to watch you fight.

00:38:35.000 Yeah.

00:38:35.000 Like, you can be popular, but ain't nobody paying you to fight.

00:38:38.000 So it's a big difference.

00:38:39.000 It's a giant difference.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, it's a giant difference.

00:38:40.000 Yeah.

00:38:42.000 I like that it's on Paramount as a fan, though.

00:38:45.000 Yeah, it saves you a ton of money.

00:38:47.000 I used to pay for every one of them.

00:38:49.000 This Netflix thing is nice, too.

00:38:51.000 It's good to see that there's someone who's willing to throw a lot of money at MMA in another large arena, like Netflix.

00:38:59.000 What are you doing, guys? 0.66

00:39:01.000 Gina versus Rhonda. 0.92

00:39:04.000 I think round one submission, Rhonda. 0.83

00:39:06.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:39:07.000 Unless she wants to try to just stand up with her, which I doubt.

00:39:10.000 I hope not.

00:39:12.000 I don't know what Gene has been doing. 0.90

00:39:15.000 You know, I don't know how long she went without MMA training at all. 0.90

00:39:20.000 She was recently a little heavy. 1.00

00:39:21.000 I can say that.

00:39:22.000 She looks great now. 0.98

00:39:23.000 Does she look great now? 0.91

00:39:24.000 She looks great now. 0.99

00:39:25.000 Look, she got in great shape. 0.52

00:39:26.000 She got in great shape.

00:39:27.000 But she's still like 43 years old.

00:39:28.000 Yes.

00:39:29.000 Come on.

00:39:29.000 But the question is, like, what was she doing in those?

00:39:33.000 Was she still training some?

00:39:34.000 That would be my real question.

00:39:36.000 Because if you just put it all down and you walk away for 17 years, I got to go.

00:39:41.000 I mean, but with the weight loss, with the weight.

00:39:44.000 Gain that she had. 0.93

00:39:45.000 There was no way she was training her with anything.

00:39:47.000 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

00:39:48.000 Like, she's back in shape, and she obviously is buxing her ass to do that, but how long, like you're saying, was she down? 1.00

00:39:56.000 And she has to develop a grappling defense to one of the best female grapplers ever. 1.00

00:40:02.000 No, Ronda's. 1.00

00:40:04.000 Her only hope is to keep it on the field. 0.77

00:40:07.000 She would pull guard and sweeper or arm locker.

00:40:10.000 Her arm locks are amazing.

00:40:11.000 Her arm locks are amazing. 1.00

00:40:13.000 They're preposterous.

00:40:14.000 I think there's too many.

00:40:14.000 You know?

00:40:15.000 There's too big a problem. 1.00

00:40:15.000 Dude or chick, her arm bars are amazing. 1.00

00:40:17.000 Remember that Kat Zingano fight? 1.00

00:40:18.000 Cat, yeah. 0.99

00:40:19.000 Charged at her. 1.00

00:40:20.000 Cat threw her.

00:40:21.000 That was the craziest thing. 0.99

00:40:22.000 Got her an armbar, like instantaneously. 1.00

00:40:23.000 Yeah, what a stupid strategy that was. 1.00

00:40:25.000 Yeah, she blanked out on that one. 0.96

00:40:27.000 So crazy.

00:40:28.000 No, but that was such a sick transition, too.

00:40:30.000 No, but I saw a video of Gina hitting pads with John Wood that was kind of recent.

00:40:35.000 It did not look good.

00:40:37.000 How recent was it?

00:40:38.000 I don't know.

00:40:39.000 I don't know, but it didn't look good.

00:40:40.000 I was just like, it's hard to tell.

00:40:42.000 I hope this is older.

00:40:44.000 She's a big girl. 1.00

00:40:45.000 Maybe she can stop her from taking her down or something.

00:40:47.000 But also, what were they doing?

00:40:49.000 Were they just working on slow motion shit?

00:40:51.000 Were they just trying to get a movement?

00:40:53.000 Or were they getting in a hard mitt workout?

00:40:55.000 I mean, either way, like, just mechanically, it didn't look great.

00:40:55.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:40:59.000 Mechanically.

00:41:00.000 So, I mean, but it could have been, it's like one of those things where, like, this could be like her comeback session and she's just trying to get warmed up.

00:41:07.000 But who knows?

00:41:08.000 I mean, you know, who knows?

00:41:09.000 Maybe she's, who knows?

00:41:10.000 You just never know.

00:41:11.000 Yeah.

00:41:11.000 I hope so.

00:41:12.000 I hope it's better than that.

00:41:13.000 Round one submission.

00:41:15.000 That made me proudly, right?

00:41:17.000 I mean, come on.

00:41:18.000 I bet, you know, if you had Polymarket, you could make some money on that.

00:41:21.000 Right.

00:41:23.000 There's going to be a lot of bets on that.

00:41:27.000 It's exciting, though, that Netflix is doing it.

00:41:29.000 That's what I like.

00:41:30.000 I like that there's another place people can go.

00:41:34.000 But how sustainable is this, though?

00:41:36.000 That's my biggest question.

00:41:37.000 Whoever's putting the money up for this is going to lose their ass, I think.

00:41:40.000 You think they're going to make that money back?

00:41:42.000 Right, but here's the thing it's Netflix, right?

00:41:44.000 So Netflix has an insane amount of money, and they keep raking it in.

00:41:48.000 Like every month, people are paying whatever they're paying.

00:41:50.000 It's as high as, like, what, 19 bucks for ad free?

00:41:53.000 What is it?

00:41:54.000 How much is a Netflix account now?

00:41:57.000 I think it just went up, right?

00:41:59.000 Yeah, they think it's going up.

00:42:00.000 So, think, oh, that money is just coming in every month.

00:42:03.000 They just got to give people exciting things to want to watch, and they'll keep making more money because more people use Netflix.

00:42:09.000 Like, it would seem like they're going to lose their ass, but they're not because they have a completely different business model.

00:42:15.000 Obviously, I'm not a businessman.

00:42:17.000 $8.99 to $26.99 per month.

00:42:20.000 In fact, I'm a terrible businessman.

00:42:22.000 But I would imagine you'll just make money by giving people awesome shit so they keep tuning into Netflix.

00:42:27.000 So, in that sense, they're not going to lose any money.

00:42:29.000 Because there's a lot of MMA fans that probably subscribe to Netflix just so they can watch that fight.

00:42:33.000 Right.

00:42:35.000 So, who's on the card now?

00:42:36.000 It's like Felipe Lins versus Nganu.

00:42:40.000 Mike Perry versus Nate Diaz.

00:42:42.000 Right?

00:42:43.000 Oh, and.

00:42:44.000 Robles de Spain. 0.95

00:42:45.000 Yeah, the Spagna.

00:42:47.000 And Junior Dos Santos.

00:42:49.000 That one is like.

00:42:51.000 Who's it?

00:42:52.000 Robles de Spagna.

00:42:53.000 That tall, tall karate combat dude.

00:42:56.000 He's a Taekwondo black belt from Cuba.

00:42:58.000 Wait, versus Junior?

00:42:59.000 Yeah.

00:42:59.000 How old's Junior?

00:43:00.000 He's 50 now.

00:43:02.000 Is he 50?

00:43:02.000 No, he's close.

00:43:04.000 But he's in good shape.

00:43:05.000 I actually did a.

00:43:06.000 We spoke at a high school a couple of months ago.

00:43:08.000 Well, I'm glad to hear that.

00:43:09.000 I mean, at least these guys will get an outlet to make some extra money.

00:43:12.000 Man, man, who doesn't know?

00:43:13.000 Mogaev and Perry.

00:43:15.000 Adriano Moraes is a, you know, that's a.

00:43:18.000 Mogaev's probably going to school them.

00:43:19.000 But I mean, they're giving guys some opportunities.

00:43:22.000 So you got to like this.

00:43:23.000 Absolutely.

00:43:24.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:43:26.000 It'll be a big show.

00:43:28.000 A lot of people will tune in.

00:43:29.000 Diaz and Perry is going to be fucking bananas.

00:43:32.000 That'll be really fun to watch.

00:43:34.000 Yeah, that's, I mean, that'll be worth the price of it.

00:43:36.000 Imagine if that was 10 years ago, that fight.

00:43:38.000 I'm looking at this.

00:43:39.000 It's like if the GLL. LA went to fucking.

00:43:42.000 It came true.

00:43:43.000 The GFL?

00:43:44.000 Remember that Grandpa League?

00:43:46.000 No, not everybody.

00:43:47.000 They just stole all their talent.

00:43:49.000 Bro, Diaz versus Perry guaranteed dogfight.

00:43:53.000 Just a guaranteed dogfight.

00:43:55.000 That will not be the case.

00:43:56.000 Who do you think wins yet?

00:43:58.000 I think the jujitsu is going to be too much.

00:44:01.000 I kind of think that too.

00:44:02.000 I kind of think Nate might just drag him deeper, right?

00:44:05.000 We're going to see.

00:44:06.000 You know, we're going to see.

00:44:07.000 Oh, it's five rounds?

00:44:08.000 Five rounds?

00:44:08.000 That's crazy.

00:44:09.000 Five rounds is crazy.

00:44:10.000 I wonder why they agreed on that.

00:44:12.000 Interesting.

00:44:14.000 I didn't realize it. 0.88

00:44:15.000 Is the Gina fight five rounds or is it three rounds?

00:44:17.000 It's three.

00:44:17.000 When they first announced it, it was five by five for everything, but they've changed a bit.

00:44:23.000 So it says five by five for those?

00:44:25.000 Yeah, just for those two, though.

00:44:26.000 This one does not.

00:44:27.000 That one doesn't say anything?

00:44:29.000 No.

00:44:29.000 And it also says these are the main events.

00:44:31.000 I mean, I can't imagine Gina was in round four.

00:44:33.000 It actually does.

00:44:34.000 It says it real.

00:44:34.000 There it does.

00:44:35.000 It's hard to see it.

00:44:36.000 Yeah, five by five.

00:44:36.000 Right.

00:44:37.000 Professional.

00:44:38.000 Yeah.

00:44:38.000 Okay.

00:44:39.000 Bro, Lorenz Larkin, back in the day.

00:44:42.000 I remember he fought Neil Magni, was hitting him with oblique kicks to the chest.

00:44:46.000 And I was like, I do not think I've ever seen anybody throw it that way.

00:44:50.000 You ever see that fight?

00:44:51.000 I don't remember that fight.

00:44:51.000 No.

00:44:53.000 He tuned Neil Magni up.

00:44:54.000 Did he?

00:44:54.000 Lorenz Larkin was a bad motherfucker.

00:44:57.000 He had a good little run.

00:44:57.000 I do remember that.

00:45:00.000 His striking was elite.

00:45:02.000 Yeah.

00:45:02.000 And when he fought Neil Magni, Neil Magni's a tough fucking dude, man.

00:45:07.000 Durable guy.

00:45:08.000 Durable, incredible discipline and endurance.

00:45:10.000 Like that dude's never out of shape.

00:45:12.000 And he was just getting tuned.

00:45:13.000 Look at this.

00:45:14.000 Oof.

00:45:15.000 I mean, he's throwing an oblique kick to the ribs.

00:45:18.000 That one there, he just hit his arm and knocked him down with it.

00:45:21.000 But earlier before that, he caught him on the ribcage with a spot.

00:45:25.000 Look at that.

00:45:26.000 Bro, that's crazy.

00:45:27.000 He gave him a spot again.

00:45:29.000 That's the second look at it.

00:45:30.000 But right here, you're seeing him.

00:45:32.000 He's blasting him with this kick that nobody throws like that.

00:45:36.000 That's a crazy position to put your hips in.

00:45:39.000 Right?

00:45:40.000 That is crazy.

00:45:41.000 Bro, he was sharp.

00:45:42.000 How did this one end?

00:45:43.000 He stopped him.

00:45:44.000 Oh, did he?

00:45:45.000 Yeah.

00:45:46.000 Oh, shit.

00:45:47.000 Yeah, Lorenz was all over him, man.

00:45:49.000 It was one of the prime performances that I've seen him fight.

00:45:55.000 Yeah, he had a good little run.

00:45:56.000 He had a great run.

00:45:57.000 But during that run, and this is like, he came from Bellator, right?

00:46:00.000 Yeah.

00:46:01.000 Yeah, and when he came over from Bellator, it was like he was still red hot.

00:46:04.000 Yeah.

00:46:04.000 Red hot.

00:46:07.000 Yeah.

00:46:08.000 Two guys that were in Bellator, which is Pitbull and Aaron Pico.

00:46:13.000 They're getting ready to fight this weekend.

00:46:15.000 How much time do you think a guy like Pico is supposed to take off after Lerone?

00:46:20.000 We were just talking about that.

00:46:21.000 Because I love his offense, man.

00:46:23.000 He's a little raging bull.

00:46:24.000 Animal.

00:46:25.000 And strong, powerful.

00:46:26.000 He just got caught.

00:46:28.000 And he got caught perfect.

00:46:29.000 And he was just perfect.

00:46:30.000 That's spinning out.

00:46:31.000 I think he got stopped more.

00:46:32.000 Did he get stopped more than once with a bad knockout like that?

00:46:35.000 Yeah.

00:46:36.000 His first fight ever.

00:46:36.000 You don't want to go through your career with a bad knockout.

00:46:38.000 The kid from Killcliffe.

00:46:41.000 Adam Burke.

00:46:42.000 Yeah.

00:46:42.000 Adam Burke's.

00:46:43.000 Yeah, he got him with a flying knee.

00:46:44.000 With a flying knee, yeah.

00:46:45.000 Damn, dude.

00:46:46.000 You don't want too many of those.

00:46:47.000 That's right.

00:46:48.000 But those put him out, man.

00:46:50.000 You just see him just go boop.

00:46:51.000 Yeah.

00:46:52.000 That Macy Barba one the other day.

00:46:54.000 Whoa.

00:46:55.000 That was just. 1.00

00:46:56.000 One of the greatest finishes in women's MMA history. 1.00

00:46:58.000 Oh, no doubt.

00:46:59.000 I wanted to reach out to Macy because I felt so bad. 1.00

00:47:02.000 I wanted to reach out to the doctor and say, what the fuck do you think? 1.00

00:47:04.000 He's just over like poking him with a fucking bitch. 0.99

00:47:08.000 So crazy. 1.00

00:47:09.000 Yeah.

00:47:11.000 I'm like, get some smell.

00:47:12.000 I'm like, somebody, the cameraman, please get off this, or somebody talk to the doctor, because I don't know what the fuck.

00:47:19.000 He was just over, like, man, this is fucked up.

00:47:21.000 I don't think he knew exactly what was going on.

00:47:23.000 He probably has no experience in combat sports, right?

00:47:26.000 He didn't realize that she got knocked out, and while she was out cold, she got strangled.

00:47:31.000 She transitioned so fast.

00:47:33.000 Like, she's out there, she's out cold already, and then she gets strangled.

00:47:37.000 Like, that's never happened before.

00:47:39.000 What's crazy is she was.

00:47:40.000 Look at the way he keeps his head up.

00:47:42.000 And then when they put her on her back, she just, it was.

00:47:42.000 Kind of still reacting.

00:47:45.000 Well, she went limp as she was trying to sit up.

00:47:48.000 She went limp.

00:47:49.000 You see right there. 0.97

00:47:50.000 Like she was trying to get up.

00:47:51.000 And then as the guy has his arm around her, she goes limp.

00:47:56.000 Dude.

00:47:56.000 See, there's like, there's C-level Kane and then there's Southpaw Alexa.

00:48:01.000 When she fights Southpaw, man, she is dangerous. 1.00

00:48:03.000 Then there's a confused doctor. 0.94

00:48:05.000 Look at him.

00:48:07.000 Right.

00:48:08.000 No, I've seen this before.

00:48:10.000 Crazy.

00:48:11.000 Look at him.

00:48:11.000 Right.

00:48:11.000 He's like, you crazy.

00:48:12.000 It's just, well, she's kind of coming to there, I think.

00:48:15.000 She's blinking.

00:48:16.000 But that was just, holy shit. 0.93

00:48:18.000 And the speed that she took her back. 1.00

00:48:20.000 She hit her. 1.00

00:48:21.000 Left hand, boop, back, choked. 1.00

00:48:23.000 Amazing. 0.93

00:48:24.000 One shot while she was out still, cracked her again, got her back and choked her, all like a lightning bolt.

00:48:30.000 That was super amazing. 0.81

00:48:31.000 But that's the same combination she hit Valentina with when she finished her.

00:48:34.000 I feel like it took five minutes with us sitting there.

00:48:36.000 Left hand, boom, took her back.

00:48:39.000 It took her longer, but look at this.

00:48:44.000 So she's in trouble.

00:48:46.000 Bam! 0.67

00:48:46.000 Right there. 0.67

00:48:46.000 Out cold and then strangled. 0.67

00:48:49.000 I don't think that combination of out cold and then strangled has ever happened before.

00:48:53.000 No.

00:48:54.000 Because, I mean, she's seen what this punch here is.

00:48:56.000 Out cold, right?

00:48:57.000 And then boom.

00:49:00.000 Sick.

00:49:00.000 No, that's crazy.

00:49:03.000 Crazy.

00:49:05.000 Wow. 0.97

00:49:05.000 She's tough, man. 0.97

00:49:08.000 Oh, man. 1.00

00:49:08.000 She'll fall backwards in front of you after the knockdown. 1.00

00:49:12.000 Well, so here's the thing. 0.99

00:49:13.000 She gets up. 0.66

00:49:14.000 And when she gets up, I think she faints.

00:49:17.000 Like, I think she tries to get up.

00:49:18.000 Just swinging again.

00:49:19.000 And then he, Mike puts his arm around her, and she's out.

00:49:24.000 I think she fainted.

00:49:25.000 That's just scary.

00:49:26.000 That's scary.

00:49:27.000 And she also had had some problems before with seizures.

00:49:31.000 Yeah.

00:49:32.000 She had to pull out of that fight with Aaron Blanchfield.

00:49:34.000 She had a seizure in the locker room.

00:49:36.000 So they still allow her to fight even though she's had seizures?

00:49:40.000 That's pretty crazy.

00:49:41.000 It depends on what's causing the seizures, right?

00:49:43.000 If they know it's a medication that she was on, they get her off the medication.

00:49:46.000 I don't know what caused the seizures.

00:49:48.000 Well, that's just not going to help the seizures.

00:49:50.000 It certainly wouldn't make me enthusiastic about fighting.

00:49:54.000 It would have to fuck with your motivation if you're already having seizures.

00:49:58.000 I wouldn't want to do it.

00:50:00.000 Now, after that, I wouldn't want to do it.

00:50:03.000 Anytime you fight, that's a possibility.

00:50:06.000 I mean, look at a guy who never once took anything remotely like that, like Kamara Usman.

00:50:13.000 And even in a fight where he's just doing so great, and then that's the closest thing I've seen to that, which is when he got stopped with that head kick.

00:50:21.000 And that's a possibility anytime you make that walk.

00:50:25.000 That's why you got that fucking little feeling in your throat before you walk out there.

00:50:31.000 The Kamara one was nuts too because John Annick was just saying because DC was like a lot of people would quit in this situation.

00:50:39.000 And John Annick said something along the lines of, but that is not the cloth from which you're cut.

00:50:43.000 I know.

00:50:44.000 And then, I mean, that was like the most perfect timing ever.

00:50:48.000 Like a movie.

00:50:48.000 Ever.

00:50:49.000 Like, if you saw that in a movie, like, shut up.

00:50:52.000 Because I just came in and was like, yeah, I think he's broke.

00:50:55.000 And then DC was saying it.

00:50:57.000 And then John intervened with, he's not cut from that cloth.

00:51:00.000 And boom.

00:51:01.000 Head kick.

00:51:02.000 It was nuts.

00:51:03.000 What is that new?

00:51:04.000 Nuts.

00:51:04.000 Russell Crowe's doing a new MMA movie.

00:51:06.000 Yeah.

00:51:06.000 Beast.

00:51:08.000 Is that supposed to be the UFC?

00:51:09.000 No, it's supposed to be the UFC.

00:51:10.000 Yeah, it's supposed to be the UFC.

00:51:12.000 I think they did it with one.

00:51:13.000 Yeah.

00:51:13.000 Yeah, I wonder if that's going to be.

00:51:15.000 Yeah, but I mean, the fighter is my age.

00:51:18.000 I'm like, yo, what's going on here?

00:51:20.000 Coming back.

00:51:21.000 Like Randy Couture won the title in his 40s.

00:51:24.000 You know?

00:51:24.000 Yeah, man.

00:51:25.000 One has some wild striking fights, man.

00:51:28.000 Some of the absolute best stand up fights in the world are happening on one.

00:51:32.000 I watch it all the time.

00:51:33.000 I never know when that shit.

00:51:35.000 Where do you watch this?

00:51:35.000 Yeah, what is that on?

00:51:36.000 There's this fucking cat out of Dagestan.

00:51:38.000 Do you guys know I'm talking about?

00:51:39.000 Asadullah Iman Ghazaliyev?

00:51:42.000 Bro.

00:51:43.000 This dude is, I think he's 135 pounds.

00:51:47.000 I think that's what he fights at.

00:51:48.000 And he's like 6'1.

00:51:50.000 And just a laser beam striker.

00:51:53.000 It just fucks people up.

00:51:55.000 Like, literally, he might be the best striker in the world.

00:51:57.000 Is it just kickboxing?

00:51:58.000 Yeah, and he's getting in there with Muay Thai.

00:52:00.000 He's getting in there with world Muay Thai champions and KOing them.

00:52:05.000 Like three time world Lumpini Muay Thai champions.

00:52:09.000 Damn.

00:52:09.000 Lumpini Stadium guys.

00:52:11.000 This guy is a fucking straight killer, dude.

00:52:13.000 And he's from Dagestan and he can wrestle. 0.96

00:52:16.000 Damn.

00:52:16.000 You got it.

00:52:17.000 Let's see if you can find like a highlight reel of his KOs.

00:52:20.000 Cause this is just like, get on YouTube.

00:52:22.000 That fighting shot was nasty.

00:52:24.000 I watch this cat every time he fights.

00:52:26.000 I just can't.

00:52:27.000 He's so fucking accurate and he's so slick.

00:52:30.000 How old is he?

00:52:31.000 He's 22.

00:52:32.000 Oh, damn.

00:52:33.000 Yeah, man.

00:52:34.000 I'm telling you.

00:52:35.000 22 year old cat from Dagestan might be the best striker on earth right now.

00:52:40.000 This dude is so impressive.

00:52:42.000 And I'm telling you, he's doing this to do to our world champions.

00:52:46.000 Oh, he's taking out world champion kickboxers, world champion Muay Thai fighters.

00:52:52.000 They're putting him in there with these fucking assassins, and he's making them all go night night.

00:52:57.000 Oh, damn.

00:52:58.000 Oh.

00:52:59.000 Bro, you got to see it in real speed.

00:53:01.000 Like, you see his real movements.

00:53:03.000 It's so impressive.

00:53:04.000 Is he with Habib and Emma though?

00:53:06.000 I don't know where he's training out of, but he's from Dagestan.

00:53:10.000 Bro. 1.00

00:53:10.000 He looks like Zabete. 1.00

00:53:12.000 Yes.

00:53:13.000 Like a little bit more robust Zabete.

00:53:17.000 But it's like it's different.

00:53:18.000 Like Zabid had more of a you know, he had an incredible style, but it was almost like more taekwondo ish.

00:53:24.000 This guy's pure Muay Thai, but he just fucks people up, man.

00:53:27.000 Accurate, too.

00:53:28.000 Oh, he's spinning heel kicks, everything.

00:53:30.000 Knees, the body.

00:53:31.000 But it's the combinations, the way he's throwing them.

00:53:34.000 He just finds these openings on people with this precision that you're like, motherfucker, man.

00:53:40.000 It keeps the pressure on.

00:53:41.000 He keeps the pressure on, too.

00:53:43.000 He's just flatlining folks one after another, flatlining people.

00:53:47.000 Oh, man.

00:53:48.000 Bro, he's very fucking impressive.

00:53:50.000 And again, very impressive against world championship caliber Muay Thai fighters.

00:53:55.000 These are not scrubs that he's fighting.

00:53:57.000 Damn.

00:53:58.000 And one's putting these fights on all the time.

00:54:00.000 And I was trying to tell Dana this.

00:54:01.000 I was like, if you guys had like UFC striking, do you know how fucking exciting that would be?

00:54:07.000 If just Muay Thai with MMA gloves on.

00:54:09.000 Well, they should do that.

00:54:12.000 They do 100%.

00:54:13.000 They're missing out on a giant opportunity because how many people boo when a fight goes to the ground?

00:54:18.000 Boo.

00:54:19.000 These guys never go to the ground.

00:54:21.000 It's just all so much more brutal than boxing.

00:54:21.000 Right.

00:54:25.000 Way more brutal.

00:54:26.000 It just didn't get a fair shake in America.

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 Yeah, I know.

00:54:29.000 It's not that it's not exciting, it's the most exciting aspect of the UFC.

00:54:32.000 Other than a great submission like Alexa Grasso after a knockout, that's like the most exciting.

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00:55:33.000 I could. 1.00

00:55:34.000 People bitch about Kamzat. 0.99

00:55:36.000 I could watch him do that to Drakis all day long.

00:55:38.000 I don't give a shit.

00:55:39.000 That's masterful.

00:55:40.000 Masterful. 1.00

00:55:41.000 Get him off you.

00:55:42.000 I know.

00:55:42.000 Get up.

00:55:43.000 People are like, oh, that's a shame, and he doesn't take chances.

00:55:45.000 Dude, get.

00:55:46.000 He's not like he's not trying to beat the shit out of him.

00:55:48.000 He's getting him tied up, and he's beating him up, and he's just.

00:55:51.000 He's working him over.

00:55:52.000 I mean, what do you want him to stand up in the crucifix?

00:55:55.000 What are you talking about here?

00:55:56.000 Yeah, I mean, that's Drekus' problem.

00:55:58.000 Drekus needs to get him.

00:56:00.000 And I don't believe in stand ups at all, period.

00:56:00.000 Yeah, 100%.

00:56:03.000 I think the only time you should stand up is someone fouls.

00:56:06.000 If someone does a foul and then you have to stand up, take a point away from them, maybe then you stand them up.

00:56:11.000 Yeah.

00:56:12.000 You shouldn't reward a guy for having shit defense.

00:56:15.000 If the dude on the bottom is the one that fouled, put them back where they were.

00:56:19.000 Don't reward them.

00:56:19.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:56:20.000 Right, right, right.

00:56:21.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:56:23.000 But other than that, why are you letting people stand up?

00:56:25.000 Why?

00:56:26.000 Guy had to work so hard to get him to the ground.

00:56:28.000 Maybe he's taking a break for a couple seconds to catch his breath.

00:56:31.000 You know, like, what the fuck do you want?

00:56:31.000 Yeah.

00:56:33.000 Figure out how to get up.

00:56:33.000 Yeah.

00:56:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:56:35.000 Bottom people just have to be better. 0.99

00:56:36.000 Also, you know how to fix that? 1.00

00:56:38.000 Here's how you fix that knees to the head to a down to pop.

00:56:41.000 Absolutely.

00:56:42.000 And then it's like, it's all out of the.

00:56:44.000 Wrestlers, then wrestlers become super fucking dangerous.

00:56:47.000 Yeah, man, Mark Coleman won the Grand Prix with that shit.

00:56:49.000 Didn't you see the smashing machine?

00:56:51.000 Did you like the smashing machine?

00:56:51.000 Yeah, bro.

00:56:53.000 I did.

00:56:54.000 I did.

00:56:54.000 It was good.

00:56:55.000 I enjoyed it.

00:56:55.000 I thought the rock was amazing.

00:56:56.000 I thought his acting, you didn't think it was the rock.

00:57:00.000 I haven't seen it yet.

00:57:02.000 You thought it was Mark Kerr.

00:57:03.000 He even got a forehead thing.

00:57:04.000 Yeah.

00:57:05.000 He got rubber put on his forehead or whatever the fuck it is. 0.77

00:57:08.000 Yeah, make him more Neanderthal.

00:57:08.000 Give him a little.

00:57:10.000 A little Cro-Magnon. 1.00

00:57:11.000 Give him a little Frankenstein for his.

00:57:13.000 It was almost.

00:57:14.000 Scene by scene, it was almost like the same, pretty much the same exact thing as the documentary.

00:57:19.000 It was really good.

00:57:20.000 The documentary, it's like the same shots, the same story.

00:57:25.000 So if you've seen the documentary, which was great.

00:57:27.000 Kurt was a great guest.

00:57:27.000 Yeah, seen it.

00:57:29.000 I had him in the podcast.

00:57:30.000 He was fun.

00:57:32.000 He was a really cool guest.

00:57:33.000 No kidding.

00:57:34.000 Yeah, he was really fun.

00:57:35.000 And just real intelligent, like easy to talk to.

00:57:37.000 Like, where does he live now?

00:57:39.000 I see him like.

00:57:40.000 Is it Arizona?

00:57:41.000 Bro, I saw him in early UFCs when I was a backstage interviewer.

00:57:46.000 He submitted Dan Bobish with his chin to his eyes.

00:57:48.000 I remember that.

00:57:50.000 I remember that too.

00:57:51.000 It was crazy.

00:57:52.000 I remember when he came on the scene, well, the UFC scene with the old Ranger Stott needed a face.

00:58:00.000 I remember Rip Rules while we were about to find out Morty Heinstein or something like that.

00:58:06.000 The karate.

00:58:06.000 Morty Heinstein.

00:58:08.000 I don't know, man.

00:58:09.000 My favorite Mark Kerr fight was against Fabio Giorgio down in Brazil.

00:58:12.000 That was crazy.

00:58:13.000 That's where he got his name.

00:58:14.000 That's.

00:58:14.000 Yeah, man.

00:58:15.000 That's my shit.

00:58:17.000 Look, I was a big Fabio fan, and like, I mean, if you can't have respect for that guy after that beating he took, and he never fucking thought about quitting.

00:58:26.000 Crazy.

00:58:27.000 Yeah, headbutts and everything.

00:58:28.000 Who said yes to that?

00:58:31.000 Yeah, right?

00:58:31.000 Let me pull you guys aside.

00:58:33.000 They'll explain physics.

00:58:35.000 And now I need to introduce you to steroids.

00:58:38.000 That was the combined physics and steroids.

00:58:41.000 And like, no, you're not fighting Mark Kirk.

00:58:44.000 If you look at the time, that's when Jiu Jitsu still had that mystique about it, though.

00:58:47.000 You know, true.

00:58:47.000 It's true.

00:58:48.000 Back When they weren't looking at it.

00:58:50.000 But that kind of killed.

00:58:50.000 But that's when the beginning of the end of the guard started for MMA.

00:58:55.000 It was like that.

00:58:56.000 Because those big wrestlers were just like, oh, you mean all I got to do is block his hips and I can headshot you?

00:59:01.000 After that fight, yeah.

00:59:01.000 Yeah, right.

00:59:03.000 Do you remember when Mario Sperry fought Igor Zinoviev?

00:59:06.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:07.000 So Mario Sperry is one of the first jiu-jitsu black belts to lose in MMA.

00:59:12.000 That's right.

00:59:12.000 Yes.

00:59:13.000 Because we all thought jiu-jitsu black belts were invincible.

00:59:16.000 And Mario Sperry was elite.

00:59:17.000 He was a really good black belt.

00:59:19.000 Yeah.

00:59:19.000 And so he fought Zinoviev, and Zinoviev stopped him.

00:59:23.000 I remember that, yeah.

00:59:24.000 And Mario was doing everything right, mounting him correctly.

00:59:27.000 But then he would just do one of those weird, like, super big bridges.

00:59:31.000 And then his, because he had endurance and he was able to just withstand his attack, he ended up cutting him or something towards the end.

00:59:38.000 Yeah, it was a big cut.

00:59:39.000 They stopped it from a cut, right?

00:59:40.000 Speaking of old school guys, guess who was at the UFC last week?

00:59:43.000 Murillo Bustamante.

00:59:44.000 Oh, yes.

00:59:46.000 He was quarterbacked.

00:59:47.000 Yeah, Jose Delano.

00:59:47.000 He made him tap twice.

00:59:49.000 The world title defense.

00:59:49.000 Yes.

00:59:50.000 At the end.

00:59:50.000 He made him tap twice.

00:59:51.000 Yeah.

00:59:52.000 He also fought 45-bit.

00:59:53.000 He fought.

00:59:54.000 Tom Erickson.

00:59:55.000 Tom Erickson.

00:59:56.000 Oh, yeah.

00:59:56.000 Remember that?

00:59:57.000 I thought Chirillo beat Chuck Liddell, too.

01:00:00.000 Honestly, in that fight.

01:00:01.000 He might have, yeah.

01:00:03.000 He was a bad motherfucker.

01:00:05.000 He was really good at boxing and insane at jiu-jitsu, but really good at boxing.

01:00:09.000 One of the first guys from that Carlson Gracie team, along with good wrestling.

01:00:12.000 Good wrestler, too.

01:00:13.000 He had good takedowns for a jiu-jitsu guy, too.

01:00:16.000 But that's my point.

01:00:17.000 He's at the UFC just cornering Jose Delano, and no one knows who he is.

01:00:22.000 And I'm like, yo, I need to give a lesson on this guy.

01:00:25.000 He's one of my favorite fighters of all time, but no one knows who he is.

01:00:29.000 That's crazy.

01:00:30.000 He's a legend.

01:00:31.000 But you know, there's so many people now, it's like time just goes on.

01:00:35.000 What a bunch of killers Carlson had.

01:00:37.000 Back in the day, man.

01:00:39.000 Dude, I remember his school in '96 when all that was going down.

01:00:44.000 When right before Vitor got into jiu-jitsu.

01:00:47.000 Sperry, Laborio, Carlo Barreto.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, Carlo was trained there.

01:00:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:52.000 Sergio Cohen.

01:00:53.000 He had a bunch of beasts, man.

01:00:55.000 And we'd watch them all train together.

01:00:57.000 Mario Sperry was telling us a story about how when he was just starting out in jiu-jitsu, he made his girlfriend sit there and he just put her in triangle after triangle after triangle.

01:01:07.000 She kept complaining.

01:01:09.000 It was just.

01:01:10.000 That's terrible.

01:01:11.000 Watching TV, just practicing triangles on his girlface.

01:01:16.000 We were lucky to, we were talking last night about how fortunate we were to come up when we did, you know, and like even back at, at Henso's, man, you had Henso, you had Hyan coming through, you had Half coming through, you had Matt, you had Ricardo, you had Sean Alvarez, like we just had a ton of killers, you know, and back then it was, I always joke about the tap out shit, but if you saw somebody in an airport in the 90s with a tap out shirt on, you were like, Where you train.

01:01:45.000 Then it went to like JC fucking pennies, which is cool because it was.

01:01:49.000 Yeah, it's at Forever 21.

01:01:53.000 But it was pretty wild.

01:01:54.000 I had some tap out charts.

01:01:56.000 Everybody did.

01:01:57.000 Right.

01:01:58.000 Those guys were fun.

01:01:59.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:02:00.000 It was a weird time.

01:02:01.000 That time of MMA, if you go back to like, even when you and I first met, it was like, what year was that?

01:02:08.000 2001, we met.

01:02:09.000 Crazy.

01:02:10.000 That's crazy.

01:02:11.000 Because you weren't a commentator yet, but I thought Kelly DeLante.

01:02:14.000 And you gave me a nice shout out.

01:02:16.000 We need more of that jungle jujitsu like Matt Sarah did.

01:02:16.000 I remember.

01:02:18.000 When you toured at Bios.

01:02:19.000 And I'm like, oh!

01:02:20.000 They showed that up.

01:02:22.000 Yeah, that's funny.

01:02:24.000 Yeah, that was 2001.

01:02:26.000 Because I mailed you a shirt.

01:02:28.000 And then you called the academy.

01:02:28.000 Thank you.

01:02:29.000 And I'm like, oh, what's up?

01:02:31.000 That was funny, man.

01:02:32.000 Nice.

01:02:32.000 It's crazy.

01:02:33.000 But jujitsu was so physical then.

01:02:35.000 Like, it was a physical thing.

01:02:37.000 Now it's so intellectual.

01:02:38.000 And, like, these nerds think they own it. 0.56

01:02:40.000 Autistic kids got all jujitsu.

01:02:42.000 And now they think they own it. 0.94

01:02:44.000 And now they think they own it.

01:02:46.000 And it's like, yo, what are you talking about?

01:02:47.000 They start talking about tech.

01:02:49.000 It's like they're talking chess moves.

01:02:51.000 Yeah.

01:02:51.000 If you don't know the name, then he's like, You don't know that?

01:02:54.000 It's like, dude, I know that.

01:02:57.000 When you're going for the.

01:02:59.000 They call it the K guard.

01:03:00.000 I'm like, Shit, man, I've been doing that since the 90s, man.

01:03:03.000 At first, I'm like, Well, what's the. 0.86

01:03:04.000 They're like, You don't know the K guard?

01:03:06.000 I go, Well, yeah, I just never called it the fucking K guard. 0.71

01:03:06.000 Then they show it. 0.71

01:03:10.000 But it's funny, you bring up Murillo Bustamante.

01:03:13.000 We talked about Fabio Gagel.

01:03:14.000 Back then, and I know Jiu Jitsu evolved, but if you take those guys, you put them in the Abu Dhabi submission tournament, you put them in.

01:03:21.000 The BJJ, IBJJF, and you put them in an MMA fight, their jujitsu is the same.

01:03:27.000 It carries over to all.

01:03:29.000 And they may not win, but they're competitive.

01:03:31.000 And they can't have it across the board where someone who's used to scissoring, just used to the legs, you know what I mean?

01:03:43.000 That can transfer over.

01:03:45.000 Here's what fucks my head up.

01:03:47.000 If you gunned to my head, said to me, Who do you think has the best jujitsu in MMA right now?

01:03:55.000 My head would go, Charles Oliver.

01:03:59.000 I was getting ready to go.

01:04:00.000 Charles Oliver would be my gun. 1.00

01:04:01.000 But Islam Makachev finished him on the ground. 1.00

01:04:04.000 So how can I say that? 1.00

01:04:06.000 Right?

01:04:06.000 So it fucks my head up because I'm like, if you think about elite expressions of jujitsu on the ground, like one of the most dangerous guys off his back, Oliver.

01:04:14.000 Oliver is so dangerous everywhere.

01:04:15.000 If he gets on top of you, you're fucked.

01:04:17.000 I mean, it was just that Max Holloway's defense is so tight.

01:04:21.000 And he's so tough that he didn't get finished.

01:04:24.000 Dudes would have been at him that far.

01:04:24.000 Why?

01:04:24.000 Right.

01:04:26.000 How crazy it was that he was able to just manhandle him and take him down.

01:04:29.000 I mean, Max, nobody took Max down like that.

01:04:31.000 He manhandled him.

01:04:32.000 It was bananas.

01:04:33.000 But I think Max is a guy that is like, he can fight at 45.

01:04:37.000 I think it was really hard when he went up to 55 and then went down to 45.

01:04:41.000 But at 45, in his prime, it was a perfect weight class for him.

01:04:46.000 When Oliveira was fighting at 45, he was killing himself.

01:04:49.000 He just was fatigued easier.

01:04:52.000 But then when he went up to 55, then he became Charles Oliveira.

01:04:56.000 You know, it was really all at 55 where he made his mark.

01:04:59.000 He tried that shit, though, with Ilya.

01:05:00.000 He did try to take him down, and he tried that.

01:05:03.000 Yeah, Ilya is a different animal.

01:05:06.000 Yeah, he's on another level.

01:05:07.000 He's on another level.

01:05:07.000 For sure.

01:05:09.000 Super well rounded, and people haven't really even seen that yet.

01:05:12.000 He's on a level where I can't wait for his next fights.

01:05:15.000 Like, when he's fighting, I'm like, what is he going to do now?

01:05:17.000 Yeah.

01:05:18.000 Like, what is.

01:05:19.000 Because I think he's getting better.

01:05:21.000 I think it's not just.

01:05:22.000 I think the dude is like, Their approach to it, there's a documentary on YouTube about what they're talking about how they break down all their fight camps and what they're doing and the different stuff that they train in.

01:05:33.000 These dudes are on another level.

01:05:34.000 I mean, when you think about it, if a fight between Ilya and Islam were to happen, think about the magnitude of that not only just star power, but just in terms of skill. 0.86

01:05:44.000 Oh, my God. 0.98

01:05:45.000 Breaking that down in terms of skill.

01:05:47.000 Oh, my God.

01:05:48.000 Two of the best skilled fighters of all time.

01:05:50.000 Of all time.

01:05:51.000 That would be an insane fight.

01:05:51.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 And I just really would like it.

01:05:55.000 If it happened to be at 55, like Iliad 170 is a good thing.

01:05:58.000 Yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:05:59.000 55 would be better. 1.00

01:06:00.000 Because Islam at 170 is probably walking around a buck 96. 1.00

01:06:05.000 Yeah, for sure. 1.00

01:06:06.000 Fucking jacked.

01:06:07.000 I think Armin should be spoken about too.

01:06:11.000 100%.

01:06:11.000 Yeah.

01:06:12.000 100%.

01:06:12.000 Look at how he fought.

01:06:12.000 He had a pretty good fight with Islam back when he, how many years ago?

01:06:17.000 He was like 21. 1.00

01:06:18.000 Yeah.

01:06:19.000 He was, I mean, scrambled.

01:06:20.000 Although I do have to say, if the scoring was correct, I think, I think Oliveira would have beat him in that fight because Oliveira threatened him with submissions.

01:06:29.000 That is true.

01:06:30.000 A couple times.

01:06:31.000 That's true.

01:06:32.000 A couple times.

01:06:32.000 Like, that to me is more valuable than holding a guy down.

01:06:36.000 Did Armin threaten he had an arm choke with him?

01:06:39.000 No.

01:06:40.000 He was kind of on the run, but he was kind of on the run more often than we remember.

01:06:45.000 Armin was?

01:06:46.000 Yeah.

01:06:46.000 In terms of, like, inside the guard of Oliveira.

01:06:49.000 Like, he was kind of, you know, he was on the run.

01:06:49.000 Yeah.

01:06:51.000 It's dangerous in there, man.

01:06:52.000 It's not like everybody else is.

01:06:54.000 Like, there's only a few guys like him and, you know, Paul Craig.

01:06:58.000 Bro, Paul Craig could latch on a fucking triangle.

01:07:00.000 Like, that guy's beating world champions.

01:07:02.000 You think about it.

01:07:03.000 He beat Jamal, broke his arm.

01:07:05.000 He beat Jamal, he beat Uncle Laius.

01:07:07.000 Uncle Laius.

01:07:08.000 Stopped him with like one second to go in the third round with a triangle.

01:07:11.000 Yeah.

01:07:12.000 He might have one of the best triangles.

01:07:14.000 What was that one dude from back in the day that won all his fights by triangle?

01:07:19.000 Dustin, uh.

01:07:20.000 No, English guy.

01:07:21.000 Yeah, um.

01:07:22.000 I know exactly who you're talking about.

01:07:24.000 Oh, my God, it's going to drive me nuts.

01:07:25.000 The little skinny English guy.

01:07:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:07:27.000 He, like, was all triangles.

01:07:28.000 He was like 11 triangles in a row.

01:07:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:30.000 He had this one move, and if he can get you to the ground and latch his legs around you, you're a Fuxville.

01:07:34.000 Oh, my God.

01:07:35.000 Paul Sass.

01:07:35.000 Yeah, Paul Sass.

01:07:36.000 Paul Sass.

01:07:37.000 I was going to Paul Sass.

01:07:38.000 Shout out to Paul Sass.

01:07:40.000 Yeah, he was a beast.

01:07:41.000 You get you in that triangle, you're fucked.

01:07:43.000 And Fabericio Redooms, another one, right?

01:07:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:07:46.000 I mean, he triangled Fedor.

01:07:49.000 I remember.

01:07:49.000 Fedor was Fedor.

01:07:51.000 I always tell people, if you want to look at the one I have.

01:07:53.000 All time greats in heavyweight.

01:07:54.000 Don't look at all losses and shit.

01:07:56.000 Stop right here in the prime.

01:07:59.000 Who has tapped out more legends than Fabricio Verdum?

01:08:02.000 Minotauro?

01:08:04.000 Fedor?

01:08:05.000 I mean, that is crazy.

01:08:06.000 Just those two?

01:08:07.000 Cain Velasquez?

01:08:08.000 That's true.

01:08:09.000 He's tapped out all the legends.

01:08:10.000 That's true.

01:08:11.000 And they weren't past their prime either.

01:08:14.000 Fedor was securely in his prime.

01:08:17.000 100%.

01:08:18.000 I remember watching that live thinking, oh my God.

01:08:20.000 Oh my God.

01:08:21.000 He ran right into it.

01:08:22.000 He ran right into that.

01:08:24.000 He did jump into it.

01:08:25.000 Brilliant.

01:08:26.000 His jujitsu was like scary off his back.

01:08:28.000 Yeah, Fedor had no respect for the guard.

01:08:30.000 Just, you know, was trying to take his head off and just fed it to him.

01:08:34.000 Yeah, man.

01:08:35.000 You can't do that with a guy like that.

01:08:36.000 Not a guy like that.

01:08:37.000 That's a different level.

01:08:39.000 And plus, he hit Kobe in the head with a boomerang.

01:08:41.000 Remember that?

01:08:42.000 There's nothing wrong with that.

01:08:44.000 Give me some points for that as well.

01:08:46.000 That was my favorite video of all time.

01:08:47.000 Because he hit him with the boomerang and then the bag, and Kobe was reaching out for the bag.

01:08:51.000 Yeah.

01:08:51.000 You got to give him some points for that, too.

01:08:53.000 Out of all the people that I thought I was definitely going to see on the White House lawn.

01:08:56.000 It was going to be a Colby Covington fight.

01:08:58.000 I was like, how did you not have a Colby Covington fight at the White House?

01:09:03.000 Man, I don't know.

01:09:04.000 He's like super supportive of Trump, wears Trump hats everywhere.

01:09:06.000 Right?

01:09:07.000 And he's not a fight for Trump.

01:09:08.000 They didn't hook him up?

01:09:08.000 They didn't get him fixed up?

01:09:09.000 I don't know.

01:09:10.000 How did that not happen?

01:09:11.000 I think Bo Nickel wanted to fight him.

01:09:13.000 Yeah, but that's a different weight class.

01:09:15.000 Bo Nickel's a big dude.

01:09:17.000 He's an 85er.

01:09:18.000 Yeah. 0.56

01:09:20.000 That's a, you know, Colby's not a big 70.

01:09:23.000 Is he something I can do?

01:09:24.000 He's a great size for somebody?

01:09:25.000 Yeah.

01:09:26.000 No.

01:09:27.000 Just why I'm into that grabbing match with him.

01:09:29.000 Yeah, that's going to be interesting.

01:09:30.000 Yeah, I think Chris is a little big for him.

01:09:32.000 Yeah, I think that should go well for Wild.

01:09:34.000 Who is Joaquin fighting next?

01:09:36.000 Brady.

01:09:37.000 Sean Brady.

01:09:38.000 Is that in Miami?

01:09:38.000 Sean Brady.

01:09:39.000 No, that's in Jersey.

01:09:41.000 Isn't it?

01:09:41.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:09:42.000 I'll be out in Philly next week with Brady.

01:09:44.000 Shout out.

01:09:45.000 Joaquin was on a tear until Camaro got a hold of him.

01:09:48.000 Shout out to Brady.

01:09:49.000 That's one of his shirts.

01:09:50.000 Out of the two guys that are most worthy for a shot at the welterweight title, I mean, you've got to think Ian Gary, but you also got to think Camaro because he doesn't have much time left and he's a legend.

01:10:03.000 One of the greatest welterweights of all time.

01:10:03.000 Right?

01:10:05.000 And then he just beats Joaquin Buckley like that?

01:10:08.000 I mean, like, Joaquin Buckley is a fucking monster.

01:10:11.000 Buckley was on the fast rise to a point.

01:10:14.000 Now he's Wonderboy.

01:10:15.000 Now Wonderboy's the best.

01:10:16.000 He beat the shit out of Colby.

01:10:17.000 The shit out of Colby.

01:10:17.000 Bro.

01:10:17.000 Yeah.

01:10:18.000 Bro, beat the shit out of him.

01:10:19.000 But Joaquin doesn't get tired either, which is crazy.

01:10:21.000 Like, you look at his physique.

01:10:23.000 Yeah, you think that's how he gets tired.

01:10:26.000 He keeps that gas going for three fucking rounds.

01:10:29.000 Full clip.

01:10:30.000 Yeah, believe it or not.

01:10:31.000 I've been watching him.

01:10:32.000 Right?

01:10:32.000 I've been watching him for months now.

01:10:35.000 Nah, Sean Brady, I think.

01:10:37.000 Old turtle shell.

01:10:38.000 Yeah.

01:10:40.000 That back of his is so preposterous.

01:10:43.000 He's staying at that weight, right?

01:10:44.000 Yeah, he's not going down.

01:10:47.000 What about Oldberg and Jiri this weekend?

01:10:51.000 You know what, man?

01:10:53.000 If you're looking at it on paper, if you just watch their movements, Oldberg is really fast.

01:10:59.000 He's really accurate.

01:11:02.000 And he's slick.

01:11:03.000 And he's a big, tall motherfucker with great skills.

01:11:07.000 Yuri creates chaos.

01:11:11.000 And in that chaos, you don't know exactly how someone's going to respond when the guy's still there, when you crack him.

01:11:16.000 And he's all over you and he's doing wild shit.

01:11:18.000 He's got a fucking ponytail at the top of his head.

01:11:21.000 He's a maniac.

01:11:23.000 But he's not faking it.

01:11:24.000 Oh, no.

01:11:25.000 He believes everything he says.

01:11:27.000 That's how that dude really lives.

01:11:29.000 He really does hit trees in the woods. 0.99

01:11:31.000 He goes out there with a makiwara. 1.00

01:11:33.000 He does all the hard style Japanese shit. 1.00

01:11:37.000 He spends time in the woods by himself alone. 1.00

01:11:40.000 He swims under the ice.

01:11:43.000 I saw that.

01:11:44.000 I actually saw a video of that.

01:11:45.000 Fuck that, dude.

01:11:46.000 Yeah.

01:11:47.000 I mean, you have to find where the hole is and you just got to come back.

01:11:50.000 We had some people in there too, just in case he didn't that crazy.

01:11:53.000 Hey, dude.

01:11:54.000 Listen, man, just look at that dude.

01:11:55.000 His ancestors came over on a boat with a skull on it and they had fucking swords.

01:12:02.000 And they hopped off and started slicing him up.

01:12:04.000 Hold on, hold on, guys.

01:12:05.000 That dude is a motherfucking Viking.

01:12:07.000 Whatever he is, those warrior jeans, like that's in that.

01:12:11.000 That dude takes you to hell.

01:12:13.000 He just can't do it without it.

01:12:15.000 He guts his way.

01:12:16.000 That style just doesn't work with Pereira.

01:12:16.000 That's it.

01:12:18.000 So that's what I'm wondering.

01:12:20.000 Does he walk into one here?

01:12:21.000 Because he's going to get hit.

01:12:23.000 Khalil beat the living shit out of him for two rounds and then ran out of gas.

01:12:28.000 Oberg's a big guy, too.

01:12:30.000 Khalil's not a big, you know, if you look at him in comparison to some of the other guys in that weight class, he could make 85.

01:12:38.000 Here's one that people are sleeping on Mirza Kanoff.

01:12:41.000 Yeah.

01:12:43.000 Who?

01:12:44.000 I'm leaning Palo's way out of the field.

01:12:46.000 You almost sold me on that yesterday.

01:12:48.000 But Mirza Kanoff, man.

01:12:51.000 Let me tell you something.

01:12:51.000 Undefeated.

01:12:52.000 I'm 37 and fought nobody.

01:12:54.000 I'm riding.

01:12:55.000 Who's he fighting?

01:12:56.000 That's true.

01:12:57.000 He put Rockets to sleep, though.

01:12:58.000 Yeah.

01:12:59.000 He put Rockets to sleep in the first round.

01:13:01.000 Yeah.

01:13:01.000 Dude, he's slick.

01:13:02.000 He does shit in there.

01:13:03.000 I'm like, he calls himself the professional. 0.91

01:13:06.000 And that's like, he seems like a hitman, like some Russian hitman that comes to fucking kill people. 0.88

01:13:11.000 He believes in his power, that's a fact. 0.87

01:13:13.000 It's not just his power, man, it's his skills.

01:13:15.000 When I look at him, I'm like, this is a smart guy.

01:13:18.000 Like, he moves like a smart guy.

01:13:20.000 Everything's calculated, everything's technical.

01:13:22.000 He's really hard to hit clean.

01:13:24.000 He's a slick character.

01:13:26.000 And he does shit too, like, he overreaches, but he overreaches, I think, on purpose to get reads off you.

01:13:31.000 If he senses the guy's moving away, he'll come in with big shots that he doesn't, to try to get you to react and then counter.

01:13:38.000 Like that right hook that he hit him with was almost like a jab that he dropped Rocket with.

01:13:43.000 Just saw this movement that Rocket kept doing over and over again.

01:13:47.000 BANG!

01:13:48.000 Came in with like a straight right jab, almost like a hook jab.

01:13:52.000 Powell, who's got a chin. 0.62

01:13:54.000 Look at that.

01:13:54.000 Watch that again.

01:13:56.000 Look how slick this is.

01:13:58.000 Boom!

01:13:59.000 He's a killer, man.

01:14:00.000 We don't know what Paulo Costa's going to look like at 205, though.

01:14:03.000 He's never fought it that way.

01:14:04.000 Well, didn't he once when he didn't make weight for 85 against Marvin Vittorio?

01:14:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:09.000 He forced Marvin Vittorio.

01:14:10.000 He was like, No, this fight is at 205 now.

01:14:13.000 Remember that yet?

01:14:14.000 Izzy fucked his mind up, I think.

01:14:16.000 He definitely did.

01:14:17.000 But he looked the best he's looked his last fight.

01:14:19.000 He copied all of them.

01:14:20.000 He just ran through them.

01:14:21.000 Dude, you go back to when he was walking people down, like walk down Yoel Romero.

01:14:26.000 Paul Costa was a berserker.

01:14:28.000 I remember when he saluted Yoel Romero in the middle of the fight.

01:14:31.000 That was my favorite part.

01:14:33.000 That was a great fight.

01:14:35.000 But nobody walks down Yoel Romero like that.

01:14:36.000 Yeah, I'm kidding.

01:14:37.000 There's that photo, that one photo of him head kicking Yoel, and Yoel's face is all distorted.

01:14:43.000 And you're like, how did he take that shot?

01:14:45.000 This is his neck.

01:14:48.000 You know, his neck is fused.

01:14:49.000 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 Yeah.

01:14:50.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:14:51.000 It's all one thing, so it doesn't move.

01:14:52.000 It's connected to his skull.

01:14:54.000 That's crazy.

01:14:55.000 Yeah.

01:14:56.000 Isn't that nuts?

01:14:58.000 Look at that photo.

01:14:58.000 Look at that.

01:15:00.000 That photo's bonkers.

01:15:02.000 Imagine how tough you got to be to be Joel Romero and take that to the head when you know your neck has been through an insane operation where you have metal.

01:15:13.000 Connecting the fucking spine of your neck to your head.

01:15:16.000 Sorry, they implanted monster traps to hold his neck.

01:15:20.000 Yeah, they were like, fuck out.

01:15:22.000 He's such a freak.

01:15:23.000 Yeah, he is.

01:15:23.000 He's an athletic freak.

01:15:25.000 And you see, he just fought bare knuckles.

01:15:26.000 Specimen.

01:15:27.000 At 49?

01:15:27.000 Yeah.

01:15:28.000 And a lot of people disputed the decision.

01:15:28.000 Yeah.

01:15:30.000 They thought he should have won.

01:15:31.000 Yeah.

01:15:33.000 In Russia.

01:15:34.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:15:35.000 Yo, Romero, in Russia, don't be able to fight.

01:15:37.000 I don't know how he does it.

01:15:38.000 He looks great.

01:15:39.000 Yeah, I don't know how he does it.

01:15:40.000 If you told me he was 32, I believe you.

01:15:43.000 He did RAF as well.

01:15:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:15:47.000 Yeah, who did he beat?

01:15:48.000 Pat Downey.

01:15:49.000 Pat Downey.

01:15:50.000 And then he came back and he had, but he lost the next one.

01:15:53.000 Yeah, but he wrestled a legit dude.

01:15:56.000 Dude, the guy that I'm most impressed with in that is Armin.

01:16:00.000 Oh, I can't believe how good he is as a wrestler.

01:16:02.000 Yeah.

01:16:03.000 Who's the dude he tech-filed?

01:16:06.000 Georgie.

01:16:06.000 No, no, no.

01:16:08.000 Oh, Lance Palmer.

01:16:08.000 Lance.

01:16:10.000 That's the guy.

01:16:10.000 Oh, Lance Palmer.

01:16:11.000 Yeah, Lance Palmer is a legit wrestler.

01:16:14.000 Lance was like, oh, he's never wrestled at my level.

01:16:14.000 For sure.

01:16:17.000 He's never wrestled guys at my level.

01:16:18.000 Armin goes up there and tech-filed.

01:16:20.000 Falls on, bro.

01:16:21.000 Armin did better.

01:16:22.000 But even Giorgio, like, you watch those videos that he does?

01:16:22.000 Yeah.

01:16:25.000 Yeah.

01:16:25.000 It's like $100 to $50,000 or whatever.

01:16:28.000 Yeah.

01:16:28.000 Whatever it is.

01:16:30.000 Armin is a fucking bad man, dude.

01:16:32.000 He's a bad man.

01:16:33.000 I know it.

01:16:34.000 Yeah.

01:16:34.000 If you wanted to fight for Ilya at 55, that's a very interesting fight.

01:16:39.000 100%.

01:16:39.000 Very interesting fight for her.

01:16:40.000 I'm sure.

01:16:41.000 Because he's hard to hit.

01:16:42.000 He's very slick and technical, super flexible.

01:16:45.000 Like, you ever seen those weird mobility exercises he does with twists and shit?

01:16:50.000 I know, yeah.

01:16:52.000 Crazy flexibility.

01:16:54.000 He's definitely in his prime, man.

01:16:55.000 He can't waste his life away right now.

01:16:57.000 Stop headbutting people.

01:16:58.000 Yeah, just do the right thing because you are in your prime right now and it doesn't last forever.

01:17:03.000 He might already be champ if he could keep it together outside of the campus.

01:17:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:07.000 Like, who knows what would have happened in the Oliveira fight?

01:17:10.000 It was a proper fight, a five rounder, you know?

01:17:13.000 He's staying busy, though.

01:17:14.000 It's not like he's on the couch.

01:17:15.000 He's staying real busy.

01:17:16.000 You know what I mean?

01:17:16.000 He's doing those videos with Faye now.

01:17:18.000 That's right.

01:17:19.000 He put Mokayev to sleep a couple weeks ago, yeah.

01:17:21.000 Oh, that was a little too much.

01:17:22.000 That was a lot, yeah.

01:17:24.000 He kept it on.

01:17:25.000 Yeah.

01:17:26.000 But, like, he kept it.

01:17:27.000 Whenever they keep it on when the guy's already sleeping for too long, it's like, yo, what are you, what's going on here?

01:17:31.000 You know, you got to know he's out.

01:17:33.000 What the fuck's happening?

01:17:34.000 Maybe some unkind words were exchanged.

01:17:36.000 That's kind of my thought process.

01:17:37.000 That doesn't happen to me.

01:17:38.000 I'm sure that happened.

01:17:39.000 And Mokayev is a hothead, right?

01:17:41.000 Yeah.

01:17:41.000 He's been known to say something.

01:17:43.000 Did he get kicked out of the UFC for it?

01:17:44.000 What happened with him?

01:17:46.000 I heard he was just, like, mean to people, like, mean to the staff.

01:17:49.000 That's what I heard.

01:17:50.000 He was just, like, mean to the staff.

01:17:51.000 Yo, I wasn't even talking.

01:17:52.000 I was talking about when he did it to a streamer.

01:17:54.000 I'm not talking about that fight.

01:17:55.000 Oh, we're talking about it.

01:17:56.000 No, no, no.

01:17:57.000 I'm talking about him doing it to like just putting somebody to sleep, but his friends, the guys with his other friends.

01:18:03.000 I don't think I saw that.

01:18:04.000 It was him on a couch, and he put the guy to sleep.

01:18:07.000 This is a regular Joe.

01:18:08.000 Armin did this?

01:18:08.000 Yeah, man.

01:18:10.000 Jamie?

01:18:11.000 No, no, no.

01:18:12.000 I'm not putting it away, Jamie.

01:18:12.000 Sorry, Jamie.

01:18:14.000 But yo, yo, he put him to sleep, and he held that shit on for an extra too many seconds.

01:18:21.000 Look at this.

01:18:21.000 Watch this.

01:18:22.000 No, no, I'm telling you.

01:18:24.000 Do you tell me if you think it's too long?

01:18:26.000 That guy's neck makes me sad.

01:18:28.000 But now look.

01:18:30.000 To know that he's going to do that to him.

01:18:31.000 And I'm going to have to see this.

01:18:31.000 Now look.

01:18:35.000 Now ready?

01:18:36.000 Let's see.

01:18:37.000 Now he's out, right?

01:18:39.000 He lasted a long time.

01:18:40.000 Yo, Nick, I don't know what he's doing.

01:18:42.000 What the fuck?

01:18:43.000 He's out already.

01:18:44.000 Oh, that's really crazy.

01:18:45.000 Been out.

01:18:46.000 That's really huge.

01:18:47.000 I mean, you're a killer.

01:18:49.000 That's really crazy.

01:18:50.000 Yeah, that's so unnecessary.

01:18:52.000 That's what I'm saying, man.

01:18:53.000 What the fuck?

01:18:54.000 Yeah, that's a lot worse than I thought it was going to be.

01:18:56.000 Yeah, sorry, guys.

01:18:57.000 I hate to bring the room down, but I'm just.

01:19:00.000 That's the crazy thing is Armin knows he was out right away.

01:19:02.000 Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

01:19:03.000 Also, that guy's neck looks like it's never been choked.

01:19:07.000 I felt sad for what he was going to do to it when I saw his neck.

01:19:10.000 His neck is making me feel sad because I know that's going to hurt.

01:19:13.000 That fucking gorilla, that dude's got a clamp on him, man.

01:19:17.000 Little fuck is having soup for a week after that.

01:19:19.000 Yeah, right?

01:19:20.000 What's the problem?

01:19:21.000 Armin's fucking grip is so incredible, man.

01:19:24.000 I'm just very impressed with him, man.

01:19:26.000 Very impressed with his grappling.

01:19:27.000 I just wish he could keep it together.

01:19:29.000 I mean, his striking's not bad neither.

01:19:29.000 Yeah.

01:19:31.000 Like, he's okay.

01:19:32.000 His first fight with Islam was very close.

01:19:34.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:19:34.000 Very close. 1.00

01:19:35.000 First fight in the UFC.

01:19:36.000 I don't even think he got a full camp.

01:19:38.000 Probably not.

01:19:39.000 I think it was a short notice fight.

01:19:41.000 And he fought very well.

01:19:42.000 You know, he's at the.

01:19:44.000 It's just like crazy that fuck ups have kept him from being at the time.

01:19:48.000 The missing the title fight was the big one.

01:19:49.000 Yeah.

01:19:50.000 That was the craziest one.

01:19:51.000 Like his back hurt the day before.

01:19:53.000 Like, come on.

01:19:54.000 It's crazy.

01:19:55.000 Yeah.

01:19:55.000 And you make Hanato Moicano go out there and, you know, not having prepared for him.

01:20:00.000 Right.

01:20:01.000 Moicano looked good against Duncan.

01:20:02.000 Money, money, money, money.

01:20:06.000 Yeah.

01:20:07.000 I like what he gets on that mic, too.

01:20:08.000 He says, talking shit.

01:20:09.000 He's awesome.

01:20:11.000 I wish he would have started talking shit even earlier.

01:20:13.000 Like, I always liked the guy, but he's.

01:20:14.000 Fucking a layout.

01:20:15.000 He might be the best in the business right now.

01:20:17.000 He's funny, man.

01:20:18.000 He's just not getting enough mic time.

01:20:19.000 He needs more mic time.

01:20:21.000 When he gets on the mic time, money fucking boycott.

01:20:26.000 Their podcast, he's good on there with him and I think Gilbert, they all fucking bullshit.

01:20:31.000 Well, that was the thing. 0.77

01:20:32.000 He's doing some streams in English and in Portuguese, but the Portuguese is doing better for him.

01:20:38.000 And he's like, I'm making money off YouTube now.

01:20:40.000 So I don't care anymore.

01:20:43.000 I have my money.

01:20:44.000 I have a big stream of revenue coming in from YouTube.

01:20:47.000 You fucking pay me, motherfucker.

01:20:51.000 He's a character.

01:20:52.000 You need that.

01:20:52.000 You need some personalities in that fight.

01:20:54.000 Fuck yeah.

01:20:54.000 He's good too, remember?

01:20:56.000 Like his fight with Benoit Saint Denis.

01:20:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:59.000 Right?

01:21:00.000 He murked him.

01:21:01.000 Right?

01:21:01.000 He murked him.

01:21:02.000 Saint Denis is on his way to potential future title shop.

01:21:05.000 That win looks real good.

01:21:06.000 Real good.

01:21:08.000 You can't judge him on that short notice shit.

01:21:09.000 I know.

01:21:10.000 What do you guys think of Hookit's shit?

01:21:13.000 He's so fun.

01:21:14.000 You think it's fun?

01:21:15.000 I think it's fun.

01:21:16.000 I don't get it, man.

01:21:17.000 I don't get it.

01:21:18.000 I don't get it.

01:21:19.000 What are you talking about?

01:21:20.000 Look at all four talking shit.

01:21:22.000 Heavy note.

01:21:23.000 It's not witty.

01:21:24.000 It's not.

01:21:25.000 Like, it ain't funny.

01:21:26.000 It looks like he's trying too hard.

01:21:26.000 It ain't witty.

01:21:28.000 I love it.

01:21:28.000 Exactly.

01:21:29.000 No, I don't get it.

01:21:30.000 He's like a pro wrestler.

01:21:31.000 It's like pro wrestling.

01:21:32.000 He's like smart dude.

01:21:33.000 Bro, you talk to that guy.

01:21:34.000 He's a smart dude.

01:21:35.000 He knows what he's doing.

01:21:36.000 He's being a goof.

01:21:37.000 And here's the thing about people that act really goofy and stupid.

01:21:40.000 You kind of, you go, fuck, I ain't shit.

01:21:43.000 Like, they can trick you.

01:21:45.000 They can trick you.

01:21:46.000 You think he's going to beat Curtis?

01:21:47.000 I don't know, man.

01:21:48.000 Curtis is a lot.

01:21:49.000 You know, it's a big fan.

01:21:50.000 He's just this early in his career.

01:21:51.000 Curtis has a lot of power.

01:21:53.000 He's a big fucking fan.

01:21:54.000 He's going to be a better wrestler, probably.

01:21:55.000 He's got a lot of MMA experience.

01:21:57.000 But Hoket's a hard dude to solve.

01:21:59.000 He's a really good wrestler, and he's fucking hyper aggressive, and he's got hands on him, too.

01:22:03.000 He's got good pace on.

01:22:04.000 He's definitely athletic.

01:22:07.000 He's one of the guys that I have my eye on.

01:22:09.000 You think he can make 205, or you think he should?

01:22:12.000 I mean, well, heavyweight's light, so maybe stay there.

01:22:15.000 But really, we're just waiting for Gable.

01:22:17.000 Yeah.

01:22:17.000 Yeah, right?

01:22:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:19.000 He's getting Roman Olive, I think, is wrestling him in the ROI.

01:22:19.000 We're rich.

01:22:23.000 I would not let him do that.

01:22:24.000 I'd be like, what if you blow your ACL out?

01:22:25.000 Yeah.

01:22:26.000 What are you, crazy?

01:22:26.000 Why are you doing this?

01:22:27.000 You're going to be the heavyweight champion of the UFC.

01:22:29.000 They got to be paying attention.

01:22:30.000 And Romanoff's a big dude, man.

01:22:32.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:22:32.000 Yeah.

01:22:33.000 I mean, look, I think Gibb, I think he'll be fine, but.

01:22:36.000 When you think of guys that are like a Mike Tyson in MMA, like when Mike Tyson was coming up, that's what I think of when I see him.

01:22:44.000 I'm like, how do you deal with that?

01:22:45.000 How the fuck do you deal with that?

01:22:46.000 He moves like a cat.

01:22:47.000 He's 240 pounds, Olympic gold medalist, and he can KO you.

01:22:51.000 And he's got a smart ass guy in his corner.

01:22:53.000 And he's got John Jones as a mentor.

01:22:55.000 Are you fucking crazy?

01:22:56.000 Fight IQ, John's one of the smartest guys.

01:23:00.000 Yeah, you got that guy in your corner, and everybody's saying, I mean, he's one of the only guys that isn't even in the UFC yet that I had him on my podcast.

01:23:08.000 I was like, I got to talk to him.

01:23:08.000 I mean, he's accomplished, I think, enough anyway.

01:23:11.000 He's already a fucking Olympic gold medalist, NCAA champion.

01:23:15.000 Got to be mid 20s.

01:23:15.000 He's young.

01:23:17.000 He's young.

01:23:18.000 And they're doing it smart.

01:23:19.000 You know, they gave him one of those, what are they called?

01:23:22.000 Dirty boxing?

01:23:23.000 Dirty boxing fights.

01:23:24.000 The one where he jumped.

01:23:25.000 Dude, did you see he jumped over the rope?

01:23:26.000 He jumped over the rope like it was nothing.

01:23:28.000 It was pretty sick.

01:23:28.000 He landed on it.

01:23:29.000 He jumped over it.

01:23:30.000 He just stood there and leapt over the ropes after he won.

01:23:34.000 No.

01:23:34.000 And jumped over it.

01:23:35.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:36.000 Like the whole thing.

01:23:37.000 Dude, after he won the NCAA championships, like he can do.

01:23:42.000 Like round offs and like the shit, like literally boom, boom, boom, like a gymnast.

01:23:46.000 It's fucking crazy.

01:23:47.000 And I guarantee you that attribute that's we contribute to the speed that he has and covering distance.

01:23:53.000 He's dangerous, man.

01:23:55.000 Watch when he goes over this rope.

01:23:55.000 Watch this.

01:23:56.000 This is crazy.

01:23:58.000 Damn. 1.00

01:23:59.000 It's BJ pinch up and out of the pool right there. 0.65

01:24:01.000 I mean, that is crazy.

01:24:03.000 But he just stuck the landing and started twerking effortlessly.

01:24:08.000 He's a monster, dude.

01:24:09.000 Real hard problem for people to say.

01:24:11.000 Anybody that wrestled named Gable, you better fucking be good.

01:24:14.000 And named after Dan Gabriel.

01:24:14.000 Yeah.

01:24:16.000 After Dan Gabriel.

01:24:17.000 So he's been wrestling since he's a toddler.

01:24:20.000 And he's just such a fucking athlete and so smart, just dedicated.

01:24:25.000 They're doing it smart, too.

01:24:26.000 They're not just jumping him into the UFC right away.

01:24:28.000 He's getting famous outside the UFC.

01:24:30.000 That's the way you do it, for sure.

01:24:32.000 For sure.

01:24:33.000 You try to bring him along as much as you can.

01:24:36.000 Yeah, fuck your 10 and 10.

01:24:37.000 Come on, son.

01:24:38.000 Well, when they sign him, they're going to give him more than that.

01:24:42.000 But the thing is, you don't.

01:24:42.000 Shit, he ain't getting that.

01:24:43.000 Some people are of the opinion that you don't want to give a young fighter too much money early.

01:24:48.000 Because it'll ruin their motivation.

01:24:50.000 I mean, there's truth in that, but I mean, it's not.

01:24:52.000 Who's that for you to say, though?

01:24:53.000 You know what I'm saying?

01:24:54.000 Like, I want my money.

01:24:55.000 Yeah.

01:24:55.000 Exactly.

01:24:56.000 You don't get to determine that.

01:24:57.000 I want my money, right?

01:24:58.000 I think the cream will still rise to the top.

01:24:58.000 Guess what?

01:25:00.000 I think the guys that are dedicated, that have a lot, like Floyd Mayweather, when he was worth hundreds of millions of dollars, would still never drink and run home from the club.

01:25:08.000 Instead of people driving his Rolls Royce, he's running behind it.

01:25:08.000 From the club.

01:25:12.000 Yeah.

01:25:12.000 I mean, look at Armin, man.

01:25:14.000 That guy's got money.

01:25:15.000 He doesn't give a shit.

01:25:16.000 He's got a private check.

01:25:17.000 Yeah, he's just.

01:25:18.000 Armin's got a private jet.

01:25:19.000 At least he's always on a private jet.

01:25:20.000 It seems like he knows it.

01:25:21.000 Jesus.

01:25:22.000 Yeah, I think he's got some cash.

01:25:23.000 His family has tons of money.

01:25:25.000 Yeah.

01:25:26.000 But he still has a desire to be the best.

01:25:27.000 Yeah.

01:25:28.000 It's either in you or it's not with that.

01:25:28.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:30.000 You know, I can imagine.

01:25:31.000 Maybe that's why he can't get his attitude together, too.

01:25:34.000 Perhaps, right?

01:25:35.000 He doesn't need it.

01:25:36.000 Yeah.

01:25:36.000 A bit spoiled in that way, right?

01:25:38.000 Yeah.

01:25:39.000 Who's disciplining him?

01:25:40.000 He runs his town, I'm sure.

01:25:40.000 You know what I mean?

01:25:42.000 What do you guys think about Hamza and Strickland?

01:25:45.000 I, that's, well, let me tell you.

01:25:49.000 This comes down to Strickland's motivation.

01:25:51.000 Well, I mean, he got to be fucking motivated.

01:25:54.000 How many more shots is he going to get?

01:25:55.000 Yeah, but I mean, he's worked with him before.

01:25:58.000 I mean, I know they say that Kamzat submitted him, but if you hear Strickland talk about it, they were doing additional rounds.

01:26:04.000 When you're starting on the back.

01:26:04.000 Yeah, back drills.

01:26:06.000 I mean, come on.

01:26:06.000 Started on his back.

01:26:07.000 But I think when they moved around, I think he feels pretty confident with it.

01:26:11.000 He's a hard guy to keep down, Sean.

01:26:13.000 Yeah.

01:26:13.000 And cardio is going to be on point.

01:26:16.000 Who made Kamzat look human? 1.00

01:26:17.000 Gilbert Burns, Kamara Usman. 0.98

01:26:20.000 I mean, they made him look human, you know.

01:26:22.000 And Drake is, again, you don't want to see that rematch.

01:26:26.000 Take the fifth round.

01:26:27.000 But in that fifth round, he did get into some decent positions.

01:26:32.000 He just got reversed right away.

01:26:33.000 I mean, Sean, if there's any bit of blood in the water, he's fucking a finisher.

01:26:37.000 He's, you know what I mean?

01:26:38.000 He'll stay on him if he's hurt at all.

01:26:41.000 He's durable.

01:26:42.000 I mean, and everybody's saying how underrated his grappling is, the guys that are working with him.

01:26:46.000 So, I mean, it's.

01:26:48.000 That's all I've heard, too.

01:26:49.000 And he's so hard to hit, man.

01:26:50.000 He's got a weird style.

01:26:52.000 It's very weird.

01:26:53.000 It fucks you up.

01:26:54.000 And he's really good at moving back away from shots when all the hands are in your face.

01:26:59.000 Yeah.

01:26:59.000 It's weird.

01:27:00.000 He also throws like looping shots on purpose sometimes.

01:27:03.000 Like you would think it's bad technique, but he's like finding a way around your guard.

01:27:08.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 And he's catching you with weird stuff.

01:27:10.000 And his fucking jab is on point.

01:27:11.000 Is that fluffy?

01:27:12.000 Did you, were you at the, were you calling that one?

01:27:14.000 No.

01:27:15.000 I was there for that.

01:27:16.000 And you could hear it.

01:27:17.000 Like you don't always hear that.

01:27:19.000 You could hear the thud in his jab when fluffy was blocking him.

01:27:24.000 And it was hard.

01:27:25.000 He was mixing his kicks in there well.

01:27:26.000 He's going to have to watch that.

01:27:27.000 And he wasn't getting hit, man.

01:27:29.000 The thing about him, if you watch him when he's on point, he's so fucking hard to hit.

01:27:35.000 He just fucked up with Alex.

01:27:36.000 You just can't make any mistakes.

01:27:38.000 It seems like everybody fucks up with Alex.

01:27:40.000 He's the freak.

01:27:41.000 He doesn't negotiate with you.

01:27:43.000 He's just like, you fuck up, it's over.

01:27:47.000 Do you think that translates to heavyweight with Gon?

01:27:50.000 I don't think so.

01:27:51.000 I think Gon is a little bit too scary.

01:27:54.000 I think Gon would decision him.

01:27:56.000 There's a good chance of fucking dancing and jabbing his way to victory.

01:28:01.000 But that's what I'm saying.

01:28:02.000 Gon is going to, if he messes up with him, I think Alex will fucking.

01:28:06.000 Put him out.

01:28:07.000 Here's one thing: Gon hasn't been 185 pounds since he was 12.

01:28:10.000 Right?

01:28:11.000 Yeah.

01:28:11.000 I mean, that's a big heavyweight, athletic, moves like a cat, and he's got world-class striking skills, man.

01:28:18.000 That Tom Aspinall fight, that first round, opened up a lot of eyes.

01:28:22.000 Like, he looked fucking good, man.

01:28:24.000 He opened eyes all right.

01:28:26.000 Open up fucking Tom's eyes.

01:28:28.000 Hey, dude, I feel bad for Tom, man, because talk about a guy that got the shit end of the stick.

01:28:34.000 Right?

01:28:34.000 A knuckle deep in his fucking eyes.

01:28:34.000 Yeah.

01:28:37.000 And everybody's like, ah, walk it off.

01:28:37.000 Two surgeries.

01:28:39.000 Fucking poor guy.

01:28:41.000 Really, really was.

01:28:42.000 I just think that was handled poorly right after the fact.

01:28:45.000 You know, I think you have to address right after the fact that you have to probably tell people, like, what kind of injuries can be sustained from this?

01:28:51.000 They're permanent.

01:28:52.000 Look at Michael Bisbank, still can't see out of his right eye.

01:28:56.000 You can't just have a guy go back into a fight when he can't see.

01:28:59.000 It's crazy.

01:29:00.000 It's crazy to ask.

01:29:01.000 The guy's eye's been injured.

01:29:02.000 If he gets hit again, it could rupture.

01:29:04.000 Who knows?

01:29:05.000 Who knows what kind of damage you have back there?

01:29:06.000 So, who do you think was the irresponsible response to that?

01:29:09.000 Cyril Gahn.

01:29:10.000 I mean, but in terms of handling the situation afterwards, you think it was.

01:29:10.000 Yeah.

01:29:14.000 Tom's fault or the UFC for not being like getting his back on it?

01:29:20.000 If I was doing a press conference afterwards, what I would emphasize first and foremost is how dangerous eye pokes are.

01:29:28.000 But I think we've neglected some simple solutions, and I think there's got to be a solution that we use to stop these fucking fingers from going into people's eyes.

01:29:39.000 Point deduction right away.

01:29:40.000 Point deduction is the easiest.

01:29:43.000 You touch someone's eyeball with your fingers, unless it's a complete scramble.

01:29:47.000 You're doing this, his head happens to be there.

01:29:50.000 But if you're doing this when a guy's coming in and your fingers go in his eyes, one point.

01:29:53.000 Every fucking time.

01:29:55.000 Every fucking time.

01:29:56.000 For sure.

01:29:56.000 No judge's discretion.

01:29:58.000 No, you know, no referee's discretion.

01:29:58.000 Yeah.

01:30:00.000 Poke in the eye.

01:30:01.000 One point. 1.00

01:30:01.000 Ow! 1.00

01:30:02.000 Did you ever ask Dana about the pride gloves?

01:30:05.000 What happened to them?

01:30:06.000 I did.

01:30:08.000 You know, I don't.

01:30:09.000 Because they should own that tech, right?

01:30:10.000 That's good.

01:30:11.000 The best stuff is Trevor Whitman.

01:30:13.000 Just paying the man a little bit of money.

01:30:13.000 Right.

01:30:15.000 I was trying to broker something, and I might still be able to do that to try to figure out a way to just like.

01:30:21.000 Those gloves are perfect.

01:30:23.000 The knuckles.

01:30:24.000 Curve over your hands, are in this position.

01:30:25.000 Yes, it does not impede your grappling.

01:30:27.000 It's easy to do that if you want to, but the natural position is like this.

01:30:31.000 So, if you're doing this, it's because you wanted to do that.

01:30:35.000 It's not like the gloves are forcing your hand open, like a lot of people complain about now.

01:30:39.000 They can just mad scientist on this.

01:30:41.000 Here's the mad scientist cover the tips of the fingers, you don't use them anyway.

01:30:45.000 True, nobody does this, right?

01:30:46.000 So, if you don't, if you're always grappling like this, right?

01:30:49.000 Yeah, so cover it with like a mitten, yeah, little mittens, like a leather top, like a nice little mitten.

01:30:56.000 So, it's your thumbs are free.

01:30:57.000 So, you still have some potential eye pokes from thumbs, but that mitigates a lot of it.

01:31:02.000 That mitigates a lot of it.

01:31:03.000 And you completely stop all this stuff because now you have a solid thing.

01:31:09.000 It's not going to go knuckle deep in.

01:31:11.000 One finger goes in, one finger's on your eyebrows, and it's just fucking digging in.

01:31:15.000 That's crazy.

01:31:16.000 That would all stop if you had a mitten.

01:31:18.000 Well, I mean, there's not a lot of eye pokes in bare knuckle, right?

01:31:23.000 Right.

01:31:23.000 That is interesting.

01:31:24.000 And it's because they're always like this.

01:31:26.000 Yeah.

01:31:27.000 Because they're noted.

01:31:27.000 True.

01:31:28.000 It's just these guys that get in there and they're just like, Yeah.

01:31:31.000 So the way to stop it, really, I mean, it's take away points and guys will be like this more.

01:31:35.000 Yeah.

01:31:36.000 Well, I wonder if there would be less eye pokes in just if you just think about MMA with gloves on, it was just boxing and no kicking and takedowns.

01:31:48.000 Maybe it's like all the different possibilities of things that are happening.

01:31:51.000 It's like they're trying to avoid the takedown and everything.

01:31:51.000 That's what it is.

01:31:55.000 And blocking kicks.

01:31:56.000 Yeah, everything.

01:31:57.000 So that's why you're doing this. 0.92

01:31:59.000 Because like Muay Thai guys do this all the time.

01:32:01.000 Boxing guys very rarely do that.

01:32:03.000 No.

01:32:03.000 Very rarely.

01:32:04.000 Unless they're showing off and they're about to hit you with a big right hand.

01:32:07.000 Like Deontay Wilder.

01:32:07.000 BANG!

01:32:08.000 Right.

01:32:09.000 Yeah, he'll be.

01:32:10.000 Yeah, old school, Deontay Wilder would literally hold his fist in front of your face and then wing one.

01:32:14.000 Wing a nuclear bomb at your head.

01:32:18.000 I think you just got to discourage guys to close your hands.

01:32:20.000 Cover the fingers.

01:32:21.000 Is he fighting Joshua?

01:32:24.000 I don't know.

01:32:26.000 I don't know.

01:32:26.000 I thought I heard something about that.

01:32:27.000 That's a tough fight.

01:32:29.000 He's too skinny for that.

01:32:30.000 At this point.

01:32:31.000 He looked good in the Chasaur fight in moments.

01:32:33.000 There were moments.

01:32:34.000 He said, I love you, and then Chasaur said, I love you too.

01:32:37.000 And then he hit him, knocked him out of the ring.

01:32:40.000 Jesus.

01:32:41.000 Deontay said he backed off on him because he saw he was hurt and he wanted him to go home to his family.

01:32:45.000 I love you too.

01:32:46.000 And he fucking knocked him out of the ring.

01:32:47.000 Deontay did ayahuasca.

01:32:49.000 And I think a lot of times when a straight up assassin like Deontay Wilder meets God, oh, yeah, it takes a lot of that mean out of your heart.

01:32:59.000 You need a little of that mean to land those haymakers.

01:33:02.000 You got to be angry.

01:33:03.000 It's true.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, you don't want to be half a hippie when you're going in there.

01:33:06.000 You want to talk about one punch power, though.

01:33:09.000 That guy might be the greatest of all time.

01:33:12.000 Deontay, he was like 48 knockouts, 49 fights.

01:33:17.000 He was, yeah, he was fucking people up.

01:33:20.000 He had one decision.

01:33:20.000 And he was not.

01:33:22.000 A great technical boxer.

01:33:24.000 He started late in life.

01:33:25.000 That right hand just was fucked.

01:33:27.000 Thor's hammer was dropping on people's heads.

01:33:30.000 Teddy Allis always calls it the eraser.

01:33:32.000 Any mistakes you make, that right hand erases them all.

01:33:35.000 I always wanted to see him fight Ngano.

01:33:37.000 That would have been wild.

01:33:39.000 That would have been the fight to make. 0.84

01:33:41.000 Him and Ngano would have been the fight to make. 0.62

01:33:43.000 Them two bombing at each other.

01:33:44.000 They could actually still do that.

01:33:45.000 Yeah, why not?

01:33:46.000 They could still do that.

01:33:47.000 Like, Ngano, if you want to look at it from a business standpoint, man, that guy's killed it, right?

01:33:51.000 Yeah.

01:33:52.000 Went over and got that crazy contract with the PFL.

01:33:54.000 He got a chance to fight Tyson Fury.

01:33:57.000 Knocks him down, becomes a legend.

01:33:59.000 Then gets a big money fight with Anthony Joshua.

01:34:02.000 That doesn't go so good.

01:34:03.000 And then he has his reintroduction to MMA.

01:34:06.000 He fights that dude, Hennen.

01:34:08.000 Right, the 6'8 Australian guy.

01:34:09.000 Hennen Ferreira.

01:34:10.000 Takes him down, smashes him, beats him down.

01:34:13.000 So he made, what, $20 million in that fight?

01:34:15.000 Something crazy like that?

01:34:16.000 He had a crazy contract, right?

01:34:17.000 Yeah.

01:34:18.000 And he had a contract where his opponent had to make at least $2 million.

01:34:22.000 Who does that?

01:34:23.000 Yeah.

01:34:23.000 How do you not love the guy?

01:34:24.000 I know.

01:34:24.000 How do you not love that?

01:34:26.000 He puts it into his opponent must make at least two million dollars.

01:34:26.000 Right.

01:34:29.000 Yeah.

01:34:32.000 I don't know.

01:34:33.000 And now he's got to be making a lot for this Netflix thing.

01:34:35.000 Netflix thing, they got to pay him because they need legit names.

01:34:38.000 Yeah.

01:34:38.000 And, you know, Felipe Lins, he fought at light heavyweight in UFC, right?

01:34:44.000 Yep.

01:34:45.000 Yeah.

01:34:46.000 I worked with him a bit at top team.

01:34:47.000 And I mean, I just, this is a big moment for him.

01:34:49.000 That's all I can say.

01:34:50.000 Like, I don't know how he's going to do it.

01:34:52.000 It's a big moment for him.

01:34:53.000 Yeah.

01:34:54.000 I'm happy Nate is making that money.

01:34:56.000 Mike Perry, too.

01:34:57.000 I'm happy for them.

01:34:58.000 Yeah, I heard those guys are getting paid.

01:34:59.000 It's nice because this is a thing where if a fighter is.

01:35:05.000 In contract negotiations, they have their last fight on the contract and they decide not to fight or not to sign until after the fight.

01:35:12.000 Yeah, they do make that decision, which legally they can do, right?

01:35:14.000 Yeah, and all of a sudden Netflix is calling, yeah, especially if you win big, yeah, you win big, some stunning knockout for sure.

01:35:22.000 And then you know, you come over to Netflix and make what 12, yeah, a fight that's nuts and that forces everybody's hand.

01:35:30.000 That's what business is supposed to do, that's how it's supposed to operate.

01:35:34.000 It's good, that's what's good for the fighters.

01:35:35.000 That's the most important thing, and that's good for the fighters.

01:35:39.000 But that's just like, that's why I'm hoping that this Netflix thing can be sustainable.

01:35:43.000 Yeah, because if they just do a one off, it's like, oh.

01:35:43.000 I hope so too.

01:35:46.000 Again, I'm a terrible businessman.

01:35:48.000 Yeah.

01:35:48.000 I'm terrible at it.

01:35:49.000 Yeah.

01:35:50.000 Me too. 0.90

01:35:50.000 But just give the money to the fighters. 0.90

01:35:54.000 They're the ones who fight.

01:35:55.000 Right.

01:35:55.000 Without that, you got nothing.

01:35:57.000 Right.

01:35:58.000 Everybody's making plenty of money.

01:35:59.000 Yeah.

01:36:00.000 Come on.

01:36:01.000 It's going to be big, though, for sure, this thing.

01:36:04.000 Everybody's going to watch it, I think.

01:36:05.000 100%.

01:36:06.000 It'll be huge because everybody has Netflix.

01:36:08.000 They're going to watch it.

01:36:09.000 It's going to be crazy. 1.00

01:36:11.000 Rhonda could become a superstar again. 1.00

01:36:13.000 Well, she's already a superstar, but I mean, if she wins again, then people start talking about maybe Rhonda's going to come back to the UFC. 0.88

01:36:18.000 And then maybe it's like a WWE moment. 0.96

01:36:21.000 Rhonda and Dana shake hands on a stage with Erica Kirk fireworks going off behind them.

01:36:28.000 And Drewski dancing.

01:36:30.000 Rhonda and Kayla Harrison, White House lawn number two next summer.

01:36:35.000 Oh, yeah. 0.95

01:36:38.000 I don't think she would do well in the UFC, but this is great for her. 0.90

01:36:40.000 She's done with the WWE and all that stuff.

01:36:43.000 Yeah.

01:36:44.000 I bet it's probably hard for a. 0.99

01:36:46.000 I mean, she probably enjoyed the job. 0.95

01:36:47.000 It was a great job, made her a lot of money. 1.00

01:36:50.000 But it's probably hard for an elite competitor to do these stage things. 0.96

01:36:54.000 I mean, she's an elite competitor.

01:36:56.000 Because, like, instinctively, she just wants to compete. 0.76

01:37:00.000 She doesn't want to fake compete.

01:37:00.000 100%.

01:37:02.000 I mean, some guys did it right.

01:37:03.000 Kurt Angle turned out to be a real good pro wrestler, you know, despite being a gold medalist.

01:37:07.000 No, no, listen, it's a great gig.

01:37:10.000 Don't get me wrong, but I'm saying for someone who still can fight.

01:37:13.000 Oh, you just got an angle.

01:37:14.000 Your angle was done at that point when he went to pro wrestling.

01:37:17.000 I went to that.

01:37:18.000 Won the Olympics with a broken neck.

01:37:20.000 Jesus, savage.

01:37:21.000 I just went to the headquarters in Connecticut.

01:37:24.000 It's pretty wild.

01:37:25.000 Nice.

01:37:26.000 Yeah, I read Stephanie McMahon's podcast.

01:37:29.000 She's very nice, Stephanie McMahon. 1.00

01:37:31.000 And I seen that whole fucking place. 0.95

01:37:31.000 Nice. 0.95

01:37:34.000 If you're into WWE, it's like a fucking nerdgasm.

01:37:37.000 I'm not really into it.

01:37:38.000 Bro, it's just stuff with cream and Oh my God.

01:37:42.000 He's already been there, I'm sure.

01:37:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:45.000 He's working with them now.

01:37:46.000 Is he?

01:37:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:47.000 He's doing stuff with the WWE.

01:37:49.000 Is he writing for him?

01:37:51.000 He's going to be in some shows.

01:37:52.000 He's going to be a bad guy doing some things.

01:37:54.000 Oh my God.

01:37:56.000 He should be like a mad dude.

01:37:58.000 He's so happy.

01:37:59.000 He's so happy.

01:38:00.000 I don't know how much I could talk about this.

01:38:00.000 That's great.

01:38:02.000 I have to be quiet.

01:38:03.000 I don't know how much this is public, but they're already announcing they're doing some stuff with Kill Tony, and he's going to roast WWE people.

01:38:11.000 They're going to do some stuff like that.

01:38:13.000 They're doing a lot of collaborations together.

01:38:15.000 It's perfect.

01:38:16.000 That guy's a giant wrestling fan.

01:38:18.000 He loves it.

01:38:19.000 The guys that love it, love it.

01:38:19.000 Yeah.

01:38:20.000 That's it.

01:38:20.000 That's fucking love it.

01:38:21.000 And he's the best roaster, too, man.

01:38:23.000 When I be seeing him at the fights, I don't say shit.

01:38:23.000 The best.

01:38:25.000 I'm like, yo, I don't want him coming at me.

01:38:29.000 He had Dana's back.

01:38:30.000 Yeah.

01:38:30.000 That's my boy.

01:38:31.000 He had Dana's back for the fucking time we had to do that thing at the Last Factory.

01:38:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:38:36.000 Dana's like, yeah, we're going to do this thing.

01:38:38.000 And nobody's coming in prepared.

01:38:40.000 Meanwhile, he had Tony Hincliffe.

01:38:42.000 Yeah.

01:38:43.000 He wrote his whole set like two months prior.

01:38:46.000 That's hilarious.

01:38:47.000 Yeah, Tony's the best at that shit.

01:38:50.000 He's the best at cracking people.

01:38:51.000 Cracking on people and cutting people down.

01:38:53.000 But the people that love that soap opera world of the WWE, it's.

01:38:59.000 I don't hate on it.

01:39:01.000 I see how much they love it.

01:39:02.000 It keeps you entertained.

01:39:03.000 They like it.

01:39:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:05.000 They're really smart at mixing things up and bringing in new characters and having new crazy moments.

01:39:10.000 And if you're a nerd like Tony, like, yeah!

01:39:14.000 They go nuts.

01:39:15.000 It's like the same escape. 0.96

01:39:18.000 It's a male soap opera.

01:39:19.000 Yeah, but it's like the same kind of escape that you get if you're watching Game of Thrones. 0.55

01:39:23.000 It's just an escape.

01:39:24.000 This is silly.

01:39:25.000 This is crazy.

01:39:26.000 Oh, my God, he's back from that dad.

01:39:31.000 See, I can't do that.

01:39:33.000 I draw the line there.

01:39:35.000 I can't do that.

01:39:35.000 And I ain't got no problem with it.

01:39:38.000 I just can't do it.

01:39:38.000 I'm in the same camp as you.

01:39:40.000 I don't watch it, but I respect it.

01:39:40.000 It's not my thing.

01:39:42.000 I respect how hard it is to do.

01:39:44.000 Yeah.

01:39:45.000 It's fucking incredible.

01:39:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:39:46.000 Very difficult to do.

01:39:47.000 Remember, Matt, we wrestled in Memphis.

01:39:50.000 Yeah, we did a little thing in the street.

01:39:52.000 But we were just winging it.

01:39:54.000 Yeah.

01:39:55.000 I was hoping you'd just let me get a submission. 0.86

01:39:57.000 You know, you fight me off.

01:39:58.000 Come on, man.

01:39:59.000 I mean, it's stratified.

01:40:00.000 I hurt my knee.

01:40:01.000 It was tough, man.

01:40:02.000 I was like, damn, this is harder than I thought.

01:40:04.000 Oh, them guys take a beating for sure.

01:40:06.000 You can learn how to fall, but you're still falling.

01:40:08.000 Yeah.

01:40:08.000 I've met Hulk Hogan twice.

01:40:10.000 Well, I've met him before when he did a promo with me with the UFC.

01:40:14.000 It was when we were on Spike back then.

01:40:17.000 Yeah.

01:40:18.000 But I met him a long time ago, and he's like, he was six foot five.

01:40:21.000 He's this giant fucking dude.

01:40:23.000 I was like, holy shit, it's Hulk Hogan.

01:40:25.000 And then I saw him the last time he did my podcast, and he's like four inches shorter.

01:40:29.000 And it's all from getting all of his spine fused.

01:40:32.000 I was about to say, you're the same height now.

01:40:34.000 I'm like, wait a minute.

01:40:35.000 What happened here?

01:40:36.000 He was like a big guy still.

01:40:38.000 But he was, he used to be a giant.

01:40:40.000 He was like this towering fucking crazy guy, bald head, thunder lips.

01:40:43.000 He was so fun.

01:40:44.000 That dude was so fun.

01:40:46.000 But that's how many back surgeries he had.

01:40:49.000 And he said it was all from that move that he had where he dropped down.

01:40:52.000 Oh, no.

01:40:53.000 And then the big seat drop.

01:40:54.000 Exactly.

01:40:55.000 So the seat drop, every time he does that, he's compressing his discs.

01:40:59.000 300 plus pounds.

01:41:01.000 Yeah, 300 fucking pounds.

01:41:02.000 Dropping down every night and just blowing his back out.

01:41:02.000 Every night.

01:41:05.000 His back was just destroyed.

01:41:07.000 Wow.

01:41:07.000 Destroyed.

01:41:09.000 Every vertebrae destroyed.

01:41:11.000 Every disc blown apart.

01:41:13.000 Herniations all throughout. 0.94

01:41:14.000 I barely could walk. 0.97

01:41:16.000 I was watching The Princess Bride the other day with Andre the Giant.

01:41:20.000 What a great movie.

01:41:21.000 Anyone want a peanut?

01:41:22.000 Yeah, he's fucking great.

01:41:23.000 My name is Diego Montoya.

01:41:25.000 Love that.

01:41:25.000 You killed my father.

01:41:26.000 Yeah, I bet you die.

01:41:29.000 Such a great movie.

01:41:30.000 This is so great.

01:41:31.000 Great movie.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, I put that on for the family.

01:41:35.000 Have the kids watch it.

01:41:36.000 It's a classic.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, that's one that lasts ages.

01:41:41.000 It goes through generations.

01:41:42.000 Look at that.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, yeah, it holds up.

01:41:45.000 Fucking love it.

01:41:46.000 You know?

01:41:48.000 They don't make them like that anymore.

01:41:49.000 I just saw that Project Hail Mary.

01:41:51.000 That's a nice one for the family.

01:41:52.000 What is that?

01:41:53.000 It's with Ryan Gosling goes to space and fucking has to save the world type of thing.

01:41:58.000 But, you know, it's more than that.

01:42:00.000 But that's pretty much the premise. 0.83

01:42:03.000 Where are these Artemis people at now?

01:42:05.000 Are they passing the moon yet? 1.00

01:42:07.000 They already did.

01:42:08.000 They passed it?

01:42:08.000 What happened?

01:42:09.000 They landed on Monday.

01:42:10.000 So when did they land yet?

01:42:11.000 Are they back yet?

01:42:13.000 Where are they?

01:42:14.000 It should be probably back in the next day or two.

01:42:16.000 Well, who's going where?

01:42:17.000 They went around the moon.

01:42:18.000 They went all the way around the moon?

01:42:20.000 All the way around the moon.

01:42:21.000 No, they just went around and saw the dark side of the moon.

01:42:24.000 Yeah, they took photos of the dark side of the moon.

01:42:26.000 Oh, really?

01:42:27.000 Yeah.

01:42:27.000 They crashed on Friday.

01:42:30.000 Splash on Friday.

01:42:30.000 Splash.

01:42:31.000 I was getting ready to say, what?

01:42:32.000 They crashed.

01:42:33.000 So they land tomorrow.

01:42:35.000 Wow.

01:42:37.000 So the dark side of the moon is only dark when the moon's not.

01:42:41.000 It's not dark.

01:42:42.000 The sun still hits it the same amount the sun hits the light side of the moon.

01:42:46.000 Is that true?

01:42:47.000 Yes.

01:42:48.000 I used to think, I'm a retard, I used to think that the reason why we only see one side of the moon. Is because the moon doesn't spin.

01:42:56.000 That's what I thought.

01:42:56.000 No, no, no.

01:42:57.000 The moon not only spins around us, but it rotates.

01:43:00.000 But when we see it, the only time we see the moon during a full moon or a quarter moon or whatever it is, is when the sun is hitting the side that's always facing us.

01:43:10.000 Right.

01:43:10.000 So when it goes the other way, there's a different side that's facing us, but we don't ever get to see it because it's dark.

01:43:16.000 Right.

01:43:17.000 That's what it is.

01:43:19.000 So they took pictures of the other side?

01:43:21.000 Exactly.

01:43:22.000 Yeah.

01:43:22.000 And there's aliens everywhere.

01:43:23.000 I was about to say, yeah, I was going to say, what's on it?

01:43:25.000 What's on the other side?

01:43:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:27.000 The civilization on the other side?

01:43:28.000 What's on the other side?

01:43:29.000 And in that movie, he finds an alien, by the way.

01:43:32.000 It's not really a spoiler.

01:43:32.000 Oh, he does.

01:43:33.000 It's in the trailers.

01:43:35.000 I had that guy, Bob Lazar, on again recently.

01:43:38.000 Who's that?

01:43:38.000 You want to see a great documentary?

01:43:40.000 It's fun.

01:43:42.000 First, I would say Jeremy Corbell's documentary, which is Area 51, Bob Lazar, and Flying Saucers.

01:43:48.000 Is that what it's called?

01:43:49.000 Bob Lazar, Area 51, and Flying Saucers?

01:43:52.000 So this guy was an engineer, and he was hired to work on these.

01:43:58.000 Spacecrafts that he didn't know what the fuck they were.

01:44:01.000 They told him, like, try to figure out this propulsion system.

01:44:04.000 They brought him into this hangar, and this is in like 1988.

01:44:07.000 It's a flying saucer that looks exactly like that thing on the desk.

01:44:11.000 It has an American flag sticker on it.

01:44:11.000 Jesus.

01:44:13.000 So he's like, oh, it must be ours.

01:44:15.000 Then he gets in it and he's like, what the fuck is this?

01:44:18.000 It's made for people that are three feet tall.

01:44:21.000 There's no controls, no buttons, nothing.

01:44:23.000 Why are you looking at me, motherfucker?

01:44:25.000 Why?

01:44:25.000 Because you're the only guy to confront me.

01:44:27.000 Why are you three feet tall?

01:44:28.000 You look right at me.

01:44:29.000 You son of a bitch.

01:44:33.000 But he's got a new one out called S4.

01:44:35.000 I recommend it to anybody.

01:44:36.000 They did like CGI and they DH'd it.

01:44:39.000 Is it on Netflix or YouTube?

01:44:40.000 No, it's on Amazon.

01:44:41.000 Amazon.

01:44:43.000 Some other places.

01:44:43.000 What's it called again?

01:44:44.000 S4.

01:44:45.000 S4.

01:44:46.000 I just saw, I was just watching a series with you on it Ancient Apocalypse.

01:44:50.000 Yeah, you were in that.

01:44:50.000 Was I on that?

01:44:52.000 Oh, with Graham Hancock.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, Graham Hancock.

01:44:53.000 That's right.

01:44:54.000 Yeah, Graham is my man.

01:44:55.000 Do you know Jodrigo Gracie?

01:44:57.000 Yeah.

01:44:58.000 A good buddy of mine, my old roommate.

01:45:04.000 He's a fucking wacky guy.

01:45:06.000 He's fucking funny.

01:45:07.000 Funny as shit.

01:45:08.000 So, you know, we were just out to eat last night with Danaher.

01:45:12.000 We were talking about him.

01:45:13.000 And he's like, oh, he's great.

01:45:13.000 God, I love that guy.

01:45:15.000 And he's like, oh, I'm glad that Joderico's matured.

01:45:17.000 I was talking about how he's doing good.

01:45:19.000 He just visited me.

01:45:19.000 He did my podcast and he did a seminar at my place.

01:45:22.000 So, you know, I was catching up with him.

01:45:24.000 So he told me he was visiting Area 51 with his wife.

01:45:28.000 And he goes, so yeah, you know, I always wanted to go there.

01:45:30.000 So me and Fernanda, we drove down there and.

01:45:34.000 No, nothing was happening.

01:45:35.000 So then I'm driving back.

01:45:36.000 You got to drive back hours through like the dark desert, right?

01:45:40.000 So he's driving back and he goes, Fernanda fell asleep.

01:45:43.000 So I had my laser pointer.

01:45:45.000 So I'm just pointing at a sign, pointing at this.

01:45:48.000 He goes, Matt.

01:45:49.000 And then I saw blue lights in the distance.

01:45:53.000 He goes, I want to make contact.

01:45:55.000 He goes, what?

01:45:56.000 He goes, she was sleeping.

01:45:57.000 So I started taking my laser pin and pointing at it.

01:46:02.000 He goes, and I didn't think anything of it.

01:46:04.000 And then all of a sudden I'm driving.

01:46:08.000 And I hear a yellow circle around my car.

01:46:15.000 And I wake up Fernanda.

01:46:17.000 She's like, What did you do?

01:46:19.000 And he's like, I just took my laser pen.

01:46:21.000 It was a helicopter fucking following him.

01:46:25.000 And he goes, He was getting down to like almost my roof.

01:46:28.000 I didn't know what to do.

01:46:29.000 They had a yellow spot around my fucking car.

01:46:32.000 So she told me, We called the police.

01:46:35.000 So they go, Look, there's a helicopter following us.

01:46:39.000 They go, are you in a.?

01:46:41.000 They said the car, everything.

01:46:43.000 They go, the authorities are waiting for you at the rest stop, up or whatever.

01:46:47.000 So he goes to the rest stop, takes his laser pointer.

01:46:51.000 He gets there, he throws it in the garbage.

01:46:53.000 I don't know why.

01:46:54.000 And then he comes out.

01:46:55.000 They're like, look, they put him in cuffs.

01:46:58.000 And he goes to his wife.

01:46:59.000 He goes, go in there, get the laser pen.

01:47:01.000 It's in the bathroom.

01:47:02.000 She goes in the men's room through the garbage, finds it.

01:47:05.000 So they're saying, all right, you were shooting, interfering with.

01:47:10.000 A military helicopter, or whatever it is.

01:47:12.000 In other words, it's a major crime here that he could be facing.

01:47:16.000 He goes, man.

01:47:17.000 He goes, I was shitting myself.

01:47:19.000 The two pilots come over.

01:47:22.000 One of them takes off the helmet.

01:47:24.000 Califlower is.

01:47:25.000 He goes, fucking, thank you.

01:47:26.000 He trained under my cousin.

01:47:29.000 He goes, the guy's bowing to me.

01:47:30.000 He goes, my wife's yelling at me.

01:47:32.000 So he got out of it. 0.82

01:47:33.000 The guy trained under, he's a brown belt. 0.93

01:47:35.000 Oh, my God. 1.00

01:47:36.000 How lucky.

01:47:36.000 Dude.

01:47:37.000 That's so lucky.

01:47:38.000 I know fucking Adrigo, man.

01:47:40.000 Only you, bro.

01:47:41.000 That's so lucky.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, they probably thought they were trying to, like, fuck with planes.

01:47:45.000 Because kids do that.

01:47:46.000 They shine laser beams at planes.

01:47:48.000 It's like a real problem, is it?

01:47:50.000 They get in their eyes while they're fucking flying the planes.

01:47:53.000 The lasers go all the way up to planes.

01:47:55.000 I used to be with him on 27th Street.

01:47:58.000 He's like, Matt, watch this.

01:47:59.000 We'd be at the window.

01:48:01.000 Guys walking down the street.

01:48:03.000 Fucking, he's like, ah, look at him jump on the cover.

01:48:06.000 You're going to hell.

01:48:08.000 That's what you're doing.

01:48:13.000 That's so ridiculous.

01:48:15.000 A lot of people would think it's a laser sight on a rifle.

01:48:17.000 Exactly.

01:48:18.000 What the fuck is he doing?

01:48:19.000 Take that down.

01:48:20.000 Don't do that.

01:48:22.000 Don't do that around here.

01:48:23.000 He thought he was making contact.

01:48:24.000 He's making contact.

01:48:25.000 He's got a chopper.

01:48:28.000 Yeah, they keep talking about making contact.

01:48:29.000 I'm tired of hearing about it.

01:48:31.000 Let's do it already.

01:48:32.000 God damn it.

01:48:33.000 Yeah, I want to see it.

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:35.000 It's just dick teasing us.

01:48:37.000 Yeah, shit.

01:48:38.000 I don't think.

01:48:39.000 But you're a sci fi guy.

01:48:41.000 Have you watched the Dune movies or no?

01:48:41.000 Oh, man.

01:48:43.000 No.

01:48:44.000 I know.

01:48:45.000 You don't want to give it a shot.

01:48:46.000 I do.

01:48:47.000 I don't have any time.

01:48:48.000 They were good.

01:48:48.000 But I can get home too.

01:48:50.000 Like, if it's late at night when I'm home and I'm by myself watching shit, I don't want to watch anything like that.

01:48:55.000 I want to watch documentaries.

01:48:57.000 I was about to say, man.

01:48:59.000 Take a week off of a documentary on fucking.

01:49:01.000 I know.

01:49:01.000 I gotta like.

01:49:02.000 Dude, we're not gonna find out what happened with the PMX next week.

01:49:07.000 The Dune movies are so fucking good.

01:49:10.000 I heard they're amazing.

01:49:11.000 Josh Brolin is great.

01:49:12.000 And now they got the Dune Messiah.

01:49:14.000 Momoa was in it.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, they got a third one coming out.

01:49:17.000 Yep, third one coming out.

01:49:18.000 And this guy can't miss this.

01:49:20.000 Everybody keeps telling me how awesome they are.

01:49:21.000 They are good.

01:49:22.000 No, they're very good.

01:49:22.000 They are good.

01:49:23.000 I tried to watch it.

01:49:24.000 It was kind of slow.

01:49:25.000 Yeah, you know what?

01:49:26.000 You get that.

01:49:27.000 Yeah, it's kind of slow.

01:49:27.000 Just so much.

01:49:29.000 Dissenting opinions.

01:49:30.000 Yeah, man.

01:49:30.000 I don't know.

01:49:32.000 Yeah.

01:49:32.000 Hey, you know what else?

01:49:33.000 Who else is coming out with a movie?

01:49:36.000 Who?

01:49:40.000 Just like we planned.

01:49:41.000 Remember, you told me that.

01:49:42.000 Bring that shit up. 1.00

01:49:44.000 He came out with a.

01:49:45.000 I paid him.

01:49:46.000 Flowers.

01:49:47.000 Flowers.

01:49:48.000 I did it so fast.

01:49:49.000 Hey, wait, wait.

01:49:50.000 That's why Dean picked up dinner last night.

01:49:52.000 I said.

01:49:52.000 No, no, I did that because of my new job.

01:49:56.000 I'll tell you right now, he must give me a heart attack when you reach for that fucking bill.

01:50:00.000 Yeah.

01:50:00.000 Is this a movie that you put together?

01:50:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:03.000 What's it produced?

01:50:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.99

01:50:06.000 It's about a female in an abusive relationship.

01:50:09.000 Wow.

01:50:10.000 Look at you, Mr. Sensitive.

01:50:11.000 There it is.

01:50:12.000 There it is.

01:50:12.000 Flowers.

01:50:13.000 No shit.

01:50:13.000 Oh, boy.

01:50:14.000 The multi talented.

01:50:16.000 Yeah.

01:50:17.000 You know, nothing to do with cage fighting at all.

01:50:19.000 D. Thomas.

01:50:19.000 Look at that.

01:50:21.000 That's incredible, dude.

01:50:22.000 Congratulations.

01:50:23.000 That's awesome.

01:50:23.000 Yeah, I'm going to start shopping at the film festival next week.

01:50:27.000 That's awesome, dude.

01:50:28.000 That's awesome.

01:50:29.000 Yeah.

01:50:30.000 I like when people spread their wings.

01:50:31.000 You got to.

01:50:32.000 You know, life is short, and you don't want to be in a box.

01:50:35.000 You want to be able to do all kinds of different things.

01:50:37.000 And you can do whatever the fuck you want.

01:50:38.000 You can do whatever the fuck you want, yeah.

01:50:40.000 So I try to do whatever the fuck I want.

01:50:40.000 Yeah.

01:50:42.000 I'm telling you, that's how to live.

01:50:44.000 Yeah.

01:50:45.000 That's how to live.

01:50:46.000 There's too many people out there not doing what they want to do.

01:50:48.000 That's a hell of a deal.

01:50:48.000 Ah.

01:50:50.000 It makes me sad, actually.

01:50:51.000 It's a sad existence.

01:50:52.000 Yeah.

01:50:53.000 You know, and a lot of people are doing it because, like, you got to take care of your family, and I get it and I respect it.

01:50:57.000 Maybe you have a good time at work.

01:50:58.000 That's great.

01:50:59.000 But if there's a thing you want to do while you're still breathing, I know.

01:51:03.000 You should do it.

01:51:03.000 Do it.

01:51:04.000 You should try.

01:51:05.000 At least try it.

01:51:06.000 Get it out of your head.

01:51:07.000 I feel so fortunate when I fucking have my day to day.

01:51:10.000 You know what I mean?

01:51:11.000 Yeah.

01:51:12.000 Because I'm not like Eugene Thomas.

01:51:13.000 I don't want to do shit.

01:51:15.000 He's got another job every other week.

01:51:17.000 He does.

01:51:18.000 He's asking how I'm doing.

01:51:19.000 I'm like, dude, my school.

01:51:22.000 Taglios Pizzeria.

01:51:23.000 No promade, no bleach.

01:51:27.000 And my podcast, I'm having fun with, and UFC Unfiltered.

01:51:30.000 Dude, it's just such a perfect little thing for me.

01:51:32.000 I don't want to do anything else.

01:51:34.000 Beautiful.

01:51:34.000 It's so much fun.

01:51:36.000 There's a lot of power in saying no.

01:51:38.000 Oh.

01:51:39.000 You know?

01:51:40.000 I don't want to do anything more.

01:51:40.000 Saying no to things.

01:51:42.000 Like, just enjoy what you're doing.

01:51:44.000 Yeah.

01:51:44.000 You don't have to keep piling on.

01:51:46.000 But the thing is, once things start going good, you start saying, oh, I better not say no to nothing.

01:51:50.000 No.

01:51:51.000 I better just keep saying yes.

01:51:52.000 Yeah.

01:51:52.000 No.

01:51:52.000 They're offering me that.

01:51:53.000 I should do that.

01:51:54.000 Yeah.

01:51:54.000 I'll find the time.

01:51:56.000 But once you get to the point where you can say, No, that's a great place to be.

01:51:58.000 Oh, it's the best place.

01:52:00.000 Is your heart in it or not?

01:52:01.000 Do you want to do that?

01:52:02.000 Exactly.

01:52:03.000 Shoot, man.

01:52:05.000 The day to day, your day to day life.

01:52:06.000 That's what I love about Longo.

01:52:07.000 Longo's, you know, it's funny.

01:52:09.000 He's holding for my daughter now, which is so great.

01:52:10.000 She had her first Kickboxing Machine one, I thought.

01:52:13.000 But like, he sent us the pictures in the group chat.

01:52:15.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:52:16.000 It's amazing, right?

01:52:17.000 But it's such a proud moment.

01:52:18.000 Oh, so proud.

01:52:19.000 And it's just so cool, man, when I see him holding for her.

01:52:23.000 That's awesome.

01:52:23.000 He doesn't have, like, you know, he just, that guy just is the best.

01:52:26.000 He's just doing the same thing.

01:52:27.000 You and him, there's just, if, Paramount was smart.

01:52:31.000 They would do a whole series of you and him traveling to fights, working with people, hanging out and cornering each other.

01:52:39.000 You guys in the corner are some.

01:52:41.000 I'm like, keep the camera on Sarah.

01:52:43.000 Ain't that the truth?

01:52:44.000 It's the truth.

01:52:45.000 We always talk about it in the commentary.

01:52:47.000 It's fucking awesome watching you guys in a corner.

01:52:50.000 Good technical advice, but it's just fun.

01:52:52.000 You guys are fun together.

01:52:54.000 Just on an amateur card, we just got brought back together for one of my fighters, Adrian.

01:52:58.000 This young Filipino guy.

01:53:00.000 Good kid, he's a nurse, always smiling.

01:53:02.000 They're all nurses, brother.

01:53:08.000 He went in there, and he's just like, I just have my one wish is to have you and Ray in my corner.

01:53:13.000 He's such a nice kid.

01:53:14.000 So we went in there, we cornered him.

01:53:15.000 We didn't have to work the corner though the first round.

01:53:17.000 He flatlined this guy.

01:53:18.000 Nice.

01:53:21.000 Oh, man.

01:53:21.000 So, yeah, man.

01:53:23.000 You guys are great on your podcast together, too.

01:53:25.000 He's got a good chemistry.

01:53:26.000 He got a crazy friendship.

01:53:28.000 It's perfect.

01:53:29.000 It's like the banter's hilarious.

01:53:31.000 The two of you guys, you compliment each other perfectly.

01:53:34.000 It would be a great show.

01:53:35.000 I think we're going to do something soon before the first episode is me and the guys taking Longo to a home.

01:53:35.000 I'm telling you that.

01:53:39.000 He's not getting any younger.

01:53:40.000 Hey, guys, field trip Longo.

01:53:42.000 Where are we going?

01:53:44.000 Don't let him talk to you like that, Ray.

01:53:46.000 I'm in your corner, Ray.

01:53:48.000 Fucking road trip to the fucking home, Longo.

01:53:50.000 No, no, no.

01:53:52.000 Longo's got a lot of life.

01:53:54.000 He's fucking good.

01:53:55.000 Oh, my God.

01:53:57.000 What do you think of Gilbert Burns versus Mike Malotte?

01:54:03.000 Gilbert's lost four in a row, but he did it to all killers.

01:54:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:07.000 Lots of tough guys.

01:54:08.000 Malat only lost once to Neil Magni in a fight that he was doing great in, but then he got Neil Magni because that guy's fucking so hard.

01:54:15.000 Never gets tired.

01:54:16.000 Never gets tired.

01:54:17.000 Never gets disciplined.

01:54:18.000 Always in shape.

01:54:19.000 He's rided the ship since then.

01:54:20.000 And that kid's like the next Captain Canada.

01:54:23.000 He's doing.

01:54:23.000 People, they make an unfair comparison like, are you the next George?

01:54:27.000 That type of thing.

01:54:28.000 But he's his own fighter.

01:54:29.000 He's got a great skill set, good head on his shoulders.

01:54:33.000 Family of studs.

01:54:33.000 His brother's like an ice hockey.

01:54:35.000 It's a good test for him, Gilbert, at this stage of his career.

01:54:38.000 Yeah.

01:54:39.000 See if he still got it.

01:54:40.000 You know, he's the first guy to make comms out looking human.

01:54:40.000 Yeah.

01:54:43.000 But when Morales did that to Gilbert, I was like, Jesus Christ.

01:54:47.000 Morales is terrifying.

01:54:49.000 It doesn't make any sense.

01:54:49.000 He looks so big.

01:54:51.000 I know.

01:54:51.000 He doesn't make any sense.

01:54:53.000 So when I was with Brady, when Brady got beat by him, and the way he looked okay, right?

01:54:59.000 You know, a guy, he's 170 pounds.

01:55:01.000 Then the next day, he steps into the cage, and we're just looking like, oh my God.

01:55:06.000 He was massive.

01:55:07.000 Massive.

01:55:07.000 Yeah.

01:55:08.000 And when you're that much taller and you're the better striker.

01:55:13.000 Yeah, it's a huge advantage.

01:55:13.000 God, that's such a good one.

01:55:15.000 Because you can stand six feet away from a guy and just be like, wow, wow, wow, wow.

01:55:19.000 And Gary last week.

01:55:21.000 What are we talking about?

01:55:21.000 Oh, my God.

01:55:23.000 Like, I know Mansoor. 1.00

01:55:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:55:25.000 He trained it with ground control as a kid before he went off to college and all.

01:55:31.000 And I mean, the only thing I can say, first off, obviously, he was not ready for him yet.

01:55:35.000 But he definitely showed a lot of heart because he fucking stayed in there and took a fuckish hand.

01:55:40.000 I was just thinking the exact same thing.

01:55:42.000 I hope he comes back.

01:55:43.000 I mean, that was a bad thing.

01:55:44.000 Personally, knowing him, I felt horrible watching that.

01:55:46.000 I was like, so.

01:55:47.000 He wasn't ready for that yet.

01:55:49.000 Yeah.

01:55:50.000 When you get an elite striker, you've got to realize that guy beat Pereira in glory.

01:55:54.000 Pereira knocked him out twice after that.

01:55:54.000 Yeah.

01:55:56.000 But in the first fight, he beat Pereira.

01:55:58.000 I think people just didn't look like ordinary in his first couple.

01:56:03.000 He came out with a new version, and it was fucking impressive.

01:56:06.000 He's fucking good, and he's training with.

01:56:08.000 So he's at Glover's club.

01:56:08.000 Pereira now.

01:56:10.000 Yeah.

01:56:10.000 You know, Glover's club.

01:56:11.000 That's a great fucking camp.

01:56:13.000 And Glover has so much knowledge.

01:56:15.000 Yeah.

01:56:16.000 That guy was in the dark for six years where he couldn't get into America.

01:56:20.000 And during those six years, he was the boogeyman.

01:56:22.000 Everybody talked about Glover.

01:56:23.000 They're like, there's a guy that's in Brazil.

01:56:25.000 He can't get to America, but if that guy gets here, he's fucking everybody up.

01:56:29.000 And that was Glover.

01:56:30.000 Glover was always training with Chuck.

01:56:32.000 Chuck in.

01:56:34.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:56:36.000 And they're in Danbury, Connecticut.

01:56:36.000 Up in SLO.

01:56:38.000 That's another thing.

01:56:39.000 And that's not on the streets.

01:56:41.000 They're not in Vegas.

01:56:42.000 They're not wild out.

01:56:44.000 Ain't shit to do out there.

01:56:45.000 Yeah, all they're doing is training.

01:56:46.000 Yeah.

01:56:47.000 Yeah, dude.

01:56:47.000 Just nothing but Lyme disease in the woods.

01:56:49.000 Right?

01:56:50.000 And federal prison in Danbury.

01:56:51.000 Yeah.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, Connecticut is a good place to just not get distracted.

01:56:57.000 Just get to work.

01:56:58.000 Danbury's where Hodrigo Gracie broke my elbow.

01:57:01.000 I was there.

01:57:01.000 Yeah, you was there?

01:57:02.000 I was there.

01:57:03.000 I didn't know you were there.

01:57:04.000 Niagara?

01:57:05.000 Yeah, Niagara, yeah.

01:57:05.000 You know I was there.

01:57:07.000 Did you have to get pins in it?

01:57:07.000 Damn.

01:57:08.000 No, I mean, they reset it, cast it.

01:57:12.000 He told that story at the seminar.

01:57:12.000 No pins.

01:57:14.000 Oh, he did?

01:57:15.000 Yeah, because I had to bring that up.

01:57:16.000 Man, I was like 25 years ago.

01:57:18.000 No, he said it.

01:57:20.000 Because we weren't close at the time.

01:57:22.000 Oh.

01:57:22.000 And I was yelling shit, but I regret that too.

01:57:26.000 Wait a minute.

01:57:27.000 What did you yell?

01:57:30.000 He let it go.

01:57:31.000 He let it go.

01:57:33.000 And you didn't tap.

01:57:34.000 Well, yeah.

01:57:35.000 And right, which was great.

01:57:37.000 And then I was yelling at him for letting it go, which I was just psychotic because you're my friend now.

01:57:42.000 But at the time, it was just.

01:57:44.000 Well, to be fair, like if I knew it was going to break, I would have tapped.

01:57:47.000 Yeah.

01:57:47.000 I didn't know it was going to break.

01:57:47.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 Right.

01:57:50.000 Nah, that's what the story told.

01:57:52.000 Then he said that Henso yelled at him too after that.

01:57:54.000 For letting it go?

01:57:54.000 Why'd you.

01:57:55.000 Were you getting soft?

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:58.000 Why'd you let that shit go?

01:57:59.000 Bro, I got to get Henso in here.

01:58:01.000 Oh, man.

01:58:02.000 He's definitely.

01:58:02.000 He's the best.

01:58:03.000 We were going to do it at one time, but he was only in Austin for a short amount of time and I didn't have anything open.

01:58:07.000 In.

01:58:07.000 I couldn't get him in.

01:58:09.000 I'd love to sit down with that guy.

01:58:10.000 What a legend.

01:58:11.000 Yeah.

01:58:11.000 Stories for days.

01:58:13.000 And he's one of those guys like you hear about a guy getting a black belt and you're like, okay.

01:58:17.000 And you go, you got a black belt from Henso.

01:58:19.000 You're like, oh, okay.

01:58:20.000 Definitely.

01:58:21.000 It's like Henso, Hickson, Jean-Jacques Machado.

01:58:24.000 There's a few of those guys that are like, okay, that's a real black belt.

01:58:27.000 Like, I mean, Henso's New York place.

01:58:31.000 It's like one of the most legendary places in the history of jiu-jitsu.

01:58:34.000 If you had to write a history of jiu-jitsu, the Henso Academy in New York City, Holy shit, man.

01:58:39.000 Remember when he came over?

01:58:39.000 100%.

01:58:41.000 He came over in 96.

01:58:43.000 We had like an in school tournament.

01:58:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:58:45.000 It was great because Craig Kukuk already had two schools for him.

01:58:49.000 He had a Jersey school and.

01:58:51.000 Where's that guy?

01:58:52.000 No clue, man.

01:58:53.000 No wonder he went to like Buffalo and disappeared.

01:58:56.000 My first instructor.

01:58:57.000 But he was not an easy guy to.

01:58:59.000 He never let you get too close.

01:59:01.000 I bought all the tapes.

01:59:05.000 I learned a Mount Escape for those tapes and it worked one day.

01:59:07.000 I was like, oh shit, it worked.

01:59:09.000 He was a very good teacher.

01:59:10.000 I had a lot of fun.

01:59:11.000 I had a lot of fun too.

01:59:12.000 Before Henry came over.

01:59:12.000 He was an early Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt.

01:59:15.000 He was a black belt like early 90s, right?

01:59:17.000 Like the Steve Maxwell era. 0.80

01:59:19.000 He was one of the earliest ones, too.

01:59:20.000 I found out about him through the Gracie newsletter that I was applied to at like 17.

01:59:24.000 I used to get that.

01:59:25.000 Because when you buy the tapes, you get a newsletter.

01:59:27.000 And one newsletter, it was like every few months, it was announcing the first American black belt.

01:59:33.000 And then like two newsletters later, they disowned him.

01:59:35.000 They had a business.

01:59:37.000 But then I found out through Black Belt Magazine that he was teaching in the village one day a week in the city.

01:59:42.000 I go, all right.

01:59:43.000 They might have disowned him, but they couldn't take away his skill set.

01:59:46.000 There was no place to learn on the East Coast except for Maxwell and Philly.

01:59:50.000 So that's how I found Kukuk.

01:59:51.000 And then he partnered up with Henzo and.

01:59:54.000 And then I went with Henso when they broke up, obviously.

01:59:57.000 Why did they break up?

02:00:00.000 I remember Henso took me out to eat one time, and he's like, Look, and I always got along with Henso so much better right off the bat.

02:00:08.000 Like, Henso was just so warm and great, and he invited me over his house, and he was just such a, and Craig was always kind of a wall. 1.00

02:00:15.000 He was a big German guy, just, hmm. 1.00

02:00:17.000 But I remember one time he told me, Look, something with the business where he wasn't, felt like he was being treated fairly, I'll just leave it like that.

02:00:24.000 And then he goes, Look, He goes, if no one likes Craig, he goes, if you go with him and me, he goes, people will go with him because of you, because they like you.

02:00:34.000 But I want you to come with me.

02:00:36.000 I go, look, I go, and at first I'm like, is any, you know, I was a young kid.

02:00:39.000 I didn't know.

02:00:40.000 I go, is there any way you guys could make up? 0.81

02:00:42.000 He goes, man, if it was Brazil, he'd be already dead. 0.96

02:00:45.000 I go, all right, okay, Enzo. 0.94

02:00:48.000 All right, I got you.

02:00:50.000 So much for that.

02:00:52.000 So I went with Enzo and Craig kind of left town.

02:00:57.000 So, Matt, where are you in the pecking order in terms of American black belts from Henza?

02:01:01.000 I'm the first American on the Henza.

02:01:03.000 Okay, so you're right.

02:01:05.000 That's crazy.

02:01:05.000 That's amazing.

02:01:07.000 That's something that could be my biggest achievement right there.

02:01:07.000 That's amazing.

02:01:11.000 You know, he took me under his wing, Henzo.

02:01:13.000 Again, I was a purple belt.

02:01:14.000 He got me out of a security guard booth, taking me to Japan to corner him versus rings because he wanted me to see what it's like backstage.

02:01:21.000 Dude, I didn't do anything yet.

02:01:23.000 I'm like, oh, shit.

02:01:24.000 Really?

02:01:25.000 Japan?

02:01:26.000 So he would just do stuff like that.

02:01:27.000 Yeah, he put a lot into me.

02:01:29.000 So I can't thank him enough, dude.

02:01:32.000 That fucking camp.

02:01:34.000 You just think about how many elite black belts Henzo produced. 0.81

02:01:37.000 And then think of the John Donahue branch of it.

02:01:41.000 Yeah, I know, yeah.

02:01:43.000 Generationally, it dominates.

02:01:45.000 All the generations of jiu jitsu.

02:01:47.000 Especially now, if you think of what Donahue has done.

02:01:49.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:50.000 I mean, his prize guy, Gordon Ryan, greatest of all time.

02:01:54.000 For sure.

02:01:54.000 But I mean, even on the other side, who they don't get along with so much now, like Nicki Rod and them, are still from Donahue.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:02.000 And all elite of the elite.

02:02:03.000 Yeah.

02:02:04.000 Well, it's a crazy lineage.

02:02:06.000 That's a guy that just put 100% of himself into it, and he's got a genius mind.

02:02:12.000 I remember he didn't even own a television until my buddy Chad LeBron, who was moving back to Virginia, gave him something.

02:02:18.000 He gave him one so he could watch.

02:02:20.000 It had, I think, a VHS and a DVD thing where he wanted to just study wrestling tapes and Japanese tapes.

02:02:26.000 He just used it just to study.

02:02:28.000 I have a question for you.

02:02:28.000 Whatever happened to Eddie Wolverine?

02:02:31.000 I asked him about that last night.

02:02:32.000 What's his last name again?

02:02:33.000 Cummins.

02:02:34.000 Cummins.

02:02:34.000 What did he say?

02:02:35.000 He got into some kind of business now.

02:02:37.000 He's not really training as much.

02:02:38.000 God, that guy was good.

02:02:39.000 Yeah, he was good.

02:02:40.000 It was leg locks, man.

02:02:42.000 Early in the day, as the leg lock revolution was unfolding, there was a lot of.

02:02:46.000 Yeah, that was John's first, you know, Savage he put out.

02:02:49.000 I remember.

02:02:50.000 And, you know, Just super, super technical.

02:02:53.000 You know?

02:02:54.000 Trained a lot of those guys in leg lock technique, too.

02:02:54.000 Yeah, little guys.

02:02:57.000 You know, they all shared techniques.

02:02:59.000 Oh, yeah.

02:03:02.000 I think it's just amazing that John drives.

02:03:04.000 He never drove in New York.

02:03:05.000 I was like, how'd you get here?

02:03:06.000 He goes, oh, I drove.

02:03:07.000 I go, you fucking.

02:03:08.000 With a rash guard on and a fanny pack and an Adidas sweatpants.

02:03:11.000 He was dressed up last night.

02:03:13.000 He had an all blacks polo shirt on. 1.00

02:03:15.000 I go, yeah. 0.98

02:03:16.000 Yeah.

02:03:16.000 From New Zealand.

02:03:17.000 A New Zealand all black polo shirt.

02:03:17.000 Yeah.

02:03:19.000 Matt asked him, he goes, what?

02:03:20.000 No rash guard?

02:03:21.000 And he goes, oh, I got dressed up.

02:03:22.000 For you tonight.

02:03:23.000 Well, you probably went back home to his family, and his mother was like, honey, stop wearing the rash card everywhere.

02:03:31.000 It is crazy.

02:03:32.000 That's all you would wear.

02:03:33.000 He's teaching at Kingsway now, Gordon School.

02:03:35.000 Now that Gordon's done competing, he's got that school going on.

02:03:39.000 He's like a character in a movie.

02:03:40.000 He's not supposed to exist.

02:03:42.000 Yeah, he's a philosophy major at Columbia who falls in love with jiu jitsu because he's a bouncer.

02:03:42.000 That are?

02:03:50.000 He wants to learn jiu jitsu.

02:03:51.000 He wants to bounce at scores.

02:03:52.000 Yeah, right.

02:03:53.000 He's like jacked.

02:03:54.000 Like powerlifter bouncer who played rugby.

02:03:57.000 He was like 220, he was yoked up.

02:03:58.000 Jacked.

02:03:59.000 And so then he learns jiu jitsu, becomes obsessed with jiu jitsu, but his body's all fucked up from rugby.

02:04:04.000 He's got a fucked up knee, then his hip gets fucked up, and so he can't really compete, but he is such a jiu jitsu fanatic that he trains the best guys of all time.

02:04:15.000 It's kind of nuts.

02:04:16.000 Yeah, it is nuts.

02:04:17.000 And that's all he cares about.

02:04:18.000 Like, he doesn't give a shit about anything, he doesn't give a fuck about social media.

02:04:22.000 Look at John there.

02:04:23.000 That's one of my favorite pictures.

02:04:25.000 Oh my God.

02:04:25.000 Full head of hair, jacked, looking ready for a.

02:04:28.000 A gay date. 0.97

02:04:29.000 John definitely. 0.94

02:04:32.000 Almost looks like he had a skirt on.

02:04:33.000 Yeah, it does.

02:04:34.000 He was a really jumbo.

02:04:36.000 John definitely would rock a headgear too when he wrestled, for sure.

02:04:39.000 He's a bad motherfucker, dude.

02:04:41.000 Bad motherfucker.

02:04:42.000 I know a lot of people who rolled with him that were shocked.

02:04:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:45.000 Dude, John would do privates and wrestle everybody all day long.

02:04:48.000 Yeah, he lived it.

02:04:50.000 He still lives in it.

02:04:51.000 That's all he does.

02:04:52.000 And it's just so fortunate that you get a guy who's that smart in everything.

02:04:57.000 He's really well read history, all kinds of.

02:05:00.000 He's a very interesting guy to talk to.

02:05:02.000 But he becomes obsessed only with jujitsu.

02:05:02.000 He's a genius.

02:05:05.000 He didn't have a family.

02:05:06.000 He doesn't have a wife and kids he's got to take care of.

02:05:10.000 I love that.

02:05:11.000 Choking people.

02:05:11.000 When you have us out here, it's like a routine now.

02:05:13.000 Now, every time we come out, I get dinner with him.

02:05:16.000 I don't see him too often.

02:05:17.000 It's great.

02:05:18.000 It's like a little reunion each time we come to town.

02:05:21.000 I'd be with him how many days a week?

02:05:22.000 We'd just.

02:05:23.000 Train and go to Burritoville.

02:05:24.000 They were in Puerto Rico during the pandemic and they were having a hard time there.

02:05:28.000 And I was like, come to Texas, baby.

02:05:31.000 Come on down.

02:05:32.000 I'll tell you, you're the Pied Piper.

02:05:35.000 They all ended up here.

02:05:36.000 Well, it's a fun place, man.

02:05:38.000 It really is.

02:05:39.000 Well, I heard the whole Puerto Rico thing was good for a while, though.

02:05:41.000 I was talking to Nikki Ride about that.

02:05:43.000 He said it was great.

02:05:44.000 He was like, just being in Puerto Rico with your friends in a frat house training jiu-jitsu all day.

02:05:48.000 It was amazing.

02:05:49.000 Well, especially because they were shut down.

02:05:51.000 Yeah.

02:05:51.000 And in Puerto Rico, you have outside, like, you can get light into the room.

02:05:56.000 So it kills the fucking staff.

02:05:57.000 Better, yeah, right.

02:05:58.000 How many guys got staff from that basement jujitsu, right?

02:06:04.000 Right, a lot of people got staff.

02:06:06.000 There's a lot of funk that gets on those mats.

02:06:09.000 That if you're not careful, up his belly with all the antibiotics, that's from staff, dude.

02:06:15.000 My belly, Joe, on the way here, on the way to the JFK, because I always got my issues, but I usually give myself like if I'm going somewhere, like on a car trip or anywhere, I clear out for at least an hour and a half to two hours.

02:06:28.000 Like, I'll give myself my espresso in the morning.

02:06:31.000 Two seltzes, and then I just let it go to work, and I'm pushing on my belly because things get stuck in there.

02:06:36.000 So I thought I gave myself enough time, and I was going to JFK from my house 30 minutes, it was nine in the morning.

02:06:45.000 10 minutes into that fucking car trip, I go, I'm not fucking making it.

02:06:49.000 I go, I'm not, I go, I'm not.

02:06:51.000 And the guy was, my driver was such a good guy.

02:06:54.000 What a nice guy.

02:06:55.000 I gave him a fifth, I gave him a fucking tip, good tip.

02:06:57.000 So we're driving, I go, I go, Lyle, let me just keep watching videos on my phone.

02:07:02.000 I'm like, let me just try to let my mind go somewhere.

02:07:05.000 The clock wasn't moving.

02:07:06.000 I look back, I go, that's another minute.

02:07:07.000 I go, I'm not, there's no way I'm making this.

02:07:09.000 So I'm on the Bell Park way.

02:07:11.000 It's not like you could just pull over.

02:07:13.000 So I go, you know, I go, I go, buddy, I go, I go, I'm sorry, man.

02:07:18.000 I go, I'm not gonna make it.

02:07:19.000 I go, we got a pullover.

02:07:22.000 He goes, oh, there's nowhere really to pull over.

02:07:25.000 You want me to take an egg?

02:07:26.000 I go, go off an egg.

02:07:27.000 I go, you're going to have to do something.

02:07:30.000 I go, I'm not making it.

02:07:31.000 I go, can I get you?

02:07:32.000 I go, can I have your 7 Eleven cup?

02:07:34.000 I go, he goes, oh, do you have to pee?

02:07:35.000 I go, no, I'm going to shit in your cup.

02:07:37.000 I go, no, I go, I'm sorry.

02:07:39.000 I go, I'm sorry, sir.

02:07:40.000 I go, but I go, I go, I knew it was, it's just, it's going to happen.

02:07:44.000 And it's my biggest fucking fear.

02:07:46.000 And it's coming to life.

02:07:47.000 So this guy, no, it's okay.

02:07:50.000 No, it's okay.

02:07:51.000 We almost hit a fucking car.

02:07:51.000 He got over.

02:07:53.000 I'm on the side.

02:07:55.000 There's not even bushes or anything.

02:07:57.000 There was some, like, some, like, uh, nobody could see you.

02:08:00.000 Everybody saw me.

02:08:01.000 No, this guy could be on the top of your head.

02:08:03.000 I got out.

02:08:05.000 As I'm taking my pants down, fucking, I'm going, thank goodness I made it.

02:08:10.000 And fuck, I get back in.

02:08:11.000 I go, buddy.

02:08:12.000 You shit in the cup?

02:08:13.000 No, I didn't shit.

02:08:14.000 I just pissed.

02:08:15.000 Oh.

02:08:15.000 But it's like, well, I mean, I felt my asshole purp bubbles, but nothing.

02:08:22.000 You know, when you feel like, you know, what does it?

02:08:24.000 It's like that with you when you have to pee too?

02:08:27.000 Sometimes I have to do both.

02:08:30.000 I have to pee, but I know to really get it all out, I have to push it.

02:08:34.000 Hey, everybody, how's my ass?

02:08:36.000 So, with pee though, you can't just hold pee?

02:08:40.000 Man, I can, but not to this.

02:08:43.000 Not like how you used to be able to?

02:08:44.000 Well, it's not like.

02:08:46.000 It's one of those things where.

02:08:48.000 I have to clear out in the morning, and I thought I totally cleared out, but sometimes I'm like, all right, I'm good.

02:08:53.000 I pushed out totally.

02:08:54.000 And then it kind of just gets something else in the chamber or something.

02:08:57.000 I'm like, oh no, there's still something left.

02:09:00.000 So we're driving, and I'm like, when I get the feeling, it's such a horrible feeling because it's not about willpower.

02:09:09.000 It's not about thinking of something.

02:09:10.000 I'm like, dude, it's gonna fucking happen.

02:09:14.000 This is the day that I just piss myself.

02:09:16.000 It's gonna, but thank you, dude, I gave a custom tag.

02:09:18.000 It was $78.

02:09:20.000 For the trip, I gave him a $50 tip.

02:09:22.000 I go, dude, thank you, bro.

02:09:24.000 You're a fucking hero.

02:09:25.000 This guy fucking saved my fucking ass.

02:09:28.000 And because someone else, I'm like, they'd be like, hey, dude, fuck off with it.

02:09:32.000 Like, or, or don't do this in my car, right?

02:09:34.000 Dude, I'm like, it's happening.

02:09:36.000 I go, give me a cup.

02:09:38.000 He's like, oh, do you have to pee?

02:09:39.000 I go, obviously, but I, dude, he made it, but I couldn't, dude, I fucking a 30 minute drive there, I couldn't fucking make it.

02:09:48.000 That's crazy, it's scary, but as you get older, it's hard to hold it, man.

02:09:52.000 But no, I think it's my ulcerative colitis has to do with that, it has something to do with that, but because that sounds crazy.

02:09:58.000 The dude, I, it's, it was, I. I've had it before, but like, I don't know if I told you, I maybe said it the last time here.

02:10:06.000 We were going to an aquarium out east with my family.

02:10:09.000 And it was one of those things, just like this.

02:10:10.000 And I get out of the car, and then we're looking, and I'm like, I can, and then I see there's like a line out the door.

02:10:15.000 I go, I'm not making this.

02:10:16.000 There's no way I'm making this.

02:10:17.000 So I go, honey, she goes, okay, go, go.

02:10:20.000 So I fucking, there's like a post office with those bushes that come straight up, like they're all tight together.

02:10:26.000 I fucking smoosh myself through.

02:10:29.000 The second I take my dick out, fucking bees come around my fucking head.

02:10:34.000 I go, dude, I'm gonna get stuck.

02:10:35.000 Because I'm not going out with my dick and fucking.

02:10:39.000 I didn't get stung, but I definitely had some on the front of my pants.

02:10:46.000 What are you going to do?

02:10:47.000 Sometimes.

02:10:48.000 I'm a very clean person.

02:10:49.000 So to block out, you're not related to that? 0.89

02:10:51.000 Imagine being a woman in that situation.

02:10:53.000 Ooh, man.

02:10:53.000 Right?

02:10:54.000 There's no hardening it.

02:10:55.000 Oh, hardening it.

02:10:56.000 But, yeah, man.

02:10:57.000 These are the things you got to deal with when you get older a little bit.

02:11:00.000 I am getting my stem cells.

02:11:02.000 That's hopefully going to help.

02:11:03.000 What is the cause of ulcerative colitis?

02:11:06.000 What do they say causes it?

02:11:07.000 Ah.

02:11:09.000 I don't know.

02:11:09.000 I mean, I think some of it's my history.

02:11:12.000 I know one of my brothers had Crohn's, which is even worse.

02:11:14.000 Crohn's disease to level up.

02:11:16.000 Like, so I know my grandfather, when he was getting older, though, he had some shit.

02:11:16.000 Yeah, man.

02:11:20.000 Have you ever, like, swore off pasta?

02:11:22.000 Well.

02:11:23.000 Just, like, taken months off just gluten-free.

02:11:26.000 I went, like, try to go carnivore?

02:11:28.000 I did go gluten-free for a while, you know?

02:11:31.000 But, you know, even espresso.

02:11:34.000 I go, come on, man.

02:11:34.000 I got to have it.

02:11:35.000 Listen, I know.

02:11:36.000 Every time I go to New York, I have to eat Italian food.

02:11:36.000 I'm with you.

02:11:38.000 Food.

02:11:39.000 Like, I'm looking forward to the Jersey shows so I can get some fucking New Jersey Italian food.

02:11:44.000 I gotta take you to Taglios, bro.

02:11:46.000 You'll love this pizza.

02:11:47.000 You loved it.

02:11:47.000 Let's go.

02:11:48.000 Oh, yeah.

02:11:48.000 I'm trying to come up next week, sure.

02:11:50.000 I'm sure I love it.

02:11:50.000 I'm sure I love pizza.

02:11:52.000 No, no, just their fucking, no bleach, no probate.

02:11:55.000 Don't get me started with this.

02:11:56.000 But it's so, because I could eat it.

02:11:58.000 I could eat three slices on the way to my school and I'm not fucked up.

02:12:02.000 I could train and it's fucking, if I did that with a fucking regular slice of pizza, dude, I want to take a nap.

02:12:08.000 So it's, even my wife now orders the zero, zero flour, the From a pool of.

02:12:08.000 You know?

02:12:13.000 Yeah.

02:12:14.000 We get that shit. 1.00

02:12:16.000 She makes the pizza. 1.00

02:12:17.000 She makes fresh bread.

02:12:18.000 I feel like I got a Game of Thrones.

02:12:19.000 I'm dipping it in my soup.

02:12:21.000 That place where I took you to.

02:12:22.000 The Vegas place I took you to.

02:12:23.000 Gaetano's.

02:12:24.000 All Italian flour.

02:12:24.000 Yeah.

02:12:26.000 All handmade pasta.

02:12:28.000 Yeah, tonight we want to go to a place.

02:12:30.000 Hey, let's go.

02:12:31.000 I don't want to fucking do that to him.

02:12:32.000 I don't want to fucking do that to him.

02:12:34.000 Get to my fucking hotel.

02:12:35.000 But I was wondering if you did that, if it would have an effect.

02:12:38.000 You know who cured his fucking ulcerative colitis?

02:12:42.000 George St. Pierre.

02:12:43.000 How did he do that?

02:12:43.000 He said it's one of the reasons why he was stopping fighting.

02:12:45.000 Fasting.

02:12:47.000 Really?

02:12:48.000 Yeah.

02:12:49.000 Interesting.

02:12:49.000 Fasting did that?

02:12:50.000 That's what he told me.

02:12:51.000 That's what he said.

02:12:52.000 I mean, but he does some hardcore, like, week long shit.

02:12:55.000 Yeah, he does, like, at least three, right?

02:12:57.000 Three days.

02:12:58.000 Nah, I can't do that.

02:12:59.000 I do 24 hours sometimes.

02:13:01.000 Yeah, but that's not that hard.

02:13:03.000 Yeah, I mean, you stay busy enough.

02:13:05.000 I think if you're busy, definitely.

02:13:07.000 You can just eat a big dinner.

02:13:08.000 What a cherry tola.

02:13:09.000 Don't eat to the next dinner.

02:13:10.000 What is that?

02:13:11.000 Cherry tola.

02:13:12.000 Oh, dude.

02:13:13.000 You know, you got him all the time.

02:13:14.000 It all started from here.

02:13:16.000 It all started from here.

02:13:17.000 But it is tasty.

02:13:20.000 Ooh, that's delicious.

02:13:21.000 Ooh, that's good.

02:13:21.000 Yeah.

02:13:22.000 I know.

02:13:23.000 I love it.

02:13:24.000 They're illegal in California.

02:13:26.000 Isn't everything?

02:13:26.000 They are.

02:13:28.000 You can't have flavored nicotine in California.

02:13:30.000 What the fuck is that about?

02:13:32.000 Is that like.

02:13:33.000 Because they just want to be able to tell you what to do.

02:13:35.000 Yeah.

02:13:36.000 That's a symptom of the.

02:13:37.000 You can go buy whiskey.

02:13:39.000 You can go to CVS and buy a jug of whiskey and drink yourself to death.

02:13:43.000 But you can't buy flavored.

02:13:44.000 But you cannot buy flavored Zins.

02:13:47.000 You can't buy flavored.

02:13:48.000 It makes zero sense.

02:13:49.000 That makes zero sense.

02:13:50.000 You can't buy flavored vapes because they don't want to encourage kids.

02:13:53.000 Because you know how kids are.

02:13:55.000 They just want flavored Zens.

02:13:59.000 I hear him talking about it all the time.

02:14:01.000 He's so fucking stupid.

02:14:03.000 It's so stupid.

02:14:03.000 California is just so dumb.

02:14:05.000 They just want to tell you what to do.

02:14:06.000 It's a bunch of nannies. 0.57

02:14:07.000 And if it's legal, they're going to tax it and regulate it. 0.98

02:14:10.000 Exactly.

02:14:10.000 And everybody's moving out.

02:14:12.000 People just flee in that state like it's on fire.

02:14:14.000 Everybody's coming here.

02:14:15.000 They're going to Tennessee.

02:14:15.000 They're coming here.

02:14:16.000 They're going to Florida.

02:14:17.000 They're going anywhere.

02:14:18.000 They could just be left the fuck alone.

02:14:20.000 I think hell is where it wants to be.

02:14:21.000 New York's not much better.

02:14:23.000 No, well, hell, everybody's running out of there too.

02:14:27.000 Not me.

02:14:28.000 I'm there for life.

02:14:29.000 I'm not going nowhere.

02:14:30.000 Yeah, it just sucks when the government gets goofy and you're like, what are you talking about?

02:14:35.000 Now that Kathy Holtschel lady is saying, get those people to come back to New York.

02:14:41.000 Remember before?

02:14:42.000 All of you moved to Florida.

02:14:43.000 Yeah, that's what she said.

02:14:45.000 Which is a crazy thing to say.

02:14:47.000 That's a crazy thing to say.

02:14:49.000 It's so delusional. 1.00

02:14:51.000 But that lady's nuts anyway. 1.00

02:14:52.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:14:53.000 She said the vaccines were a gift from God.

02:14:57.000 She talks crazy.

02:14:58.000 It's like people were so tired of Cuomo.

02:15:00.000 They're like, who else?

02:15:01.000 Okay, fine.

02:15:02.000 You run it.

02:15:03.000 You know what I mean? 0.84

02:15:04.000 It's like, how would that lady become your best choice? 0.71

02:15:07.000 That seems nuts.

02:15:08.000 That makes me concerned that Stephen Corbett is doing the next fucking Lord of the Rings.

02:15:14.000 Who is?

02:15:15.000 He's like, he's writing the movie or something, him and his son.

02:15:18.000 And I know he's a fucking little bit of a.

02:15:18.000 Really?

02:15:20.000 Colbert?

02:15:20.000 Wait a minute.

02:15:21.000 Colbert Report?

02:15:21.000 Yeah.

02:15:22.000 Oh, man.

02:15:24.000 Peter Jackson was making an announcement.

02:15:26.000 I know all the nerd news.

02:15:27.000 Peter Jackson was making an announcement about a new Lord of the Rings movie he's coming out with, and I'm partnering up with.

02:15:33.000 Well, let me show you.

02:15:34.000 And all of a sudden, they go to Stephen Corbett reading a Lord of the Rings book.

02:15:38.000 Oh, hey!

02:15:38.000 You know, they planned it.

02:15:39.000 And he's like, Yeah, I took it from this part of the thing.

02:15:42.000 Is she going to have any dangers?

02:15:43.000 They shit all over.

02:15:45.000 Poor Tolkien.

02:15:46.000 They shit all over his thing.

02:15:48.000 That Rings of Power is just a fucking mess.

02:15:52.000 Piece of shit.

02:15:53.000 Orcs Rings of Power.

02:15:53.000 What is that?

02:15:55.000 Orcs were like, yeah, yeah, they were like, yeah, they had feelings, and they were like, they were like kids, they were like little kids.

02:16:03.000 It was weird.

02:16:04.000 What, yeah, it was what is this?

02:16:07.000 Rings of Power, the Amazon series of The Lord of the Rings, is the biggest pile of shit next to the Acolyte.

02:16:14.000 It's everybody's on our childhood or shit on they on the major franchises that had some really good lore, like everything from Star Trek, what the fuck they did, everything Disney touched, they fucked.

02:16:27.000 Up Marvel, everything.

02:16:28.000 Bro, how do you fuck up orcs?

02:16:30.000 No, no, they weren't terrifying.

02:16:32.000 Yeah, no, they weren't terrifying either.

02:16:33.000 How do you fuck up the Hulk?

02:16:36.000 Explain it. 0.93

02:16:36.000 They make him smart and they made him a pussy. 0.93

02:16:38.000 Donald's kicked his ass and he never got his balls back if the Donald's kicked his ass. 0.95

02:16:42.000 Right?

02:16:43.000 Yeah, that's an orc, bro.

02:16:45.000 The dude with the helmet.

02:16:45.000 Yeah, now watch him move.

02:16:46.000 Click on that dude with the helmet.

02:16:48.000 They look like they have feelings.

02:16:49.000 Jesus Christ.

02:16:50.000 Oh, yeah, they make him go ahead and discriminate against.

02:16:52.000 Oh, no, it's fucking brutal.

02:16:53.000 That guy's got feelings for real?

02:16:55.000 Yeah, he had feelings and yeah.

02:16:57.000 No, they're not supposed to have feelings.

02:16:58.000 There's no more good stuff.

02:17:00.000 They're supposed to be like demons.

02:17:01.000 Nope.

02:17:02.000 Nah, now they're just.

02:17:03.000 That one in the lower right hand corner with the fucking helmet on, look at that.

02:17:06.000 Oh, fuck, yeah.

02:17:07.000 You don't know his backstory.

02:17:09.000 He might be a good guy.

02:17:10.000 They were like, no father, no father.

02:17:13.000 I don't want him to be a good guy.

02:17:14.000 Me neither.

02:17:15.000 I want orcs, old school.

02:17:17.000 Like from the movies.

02:17:18.000 That's why that Night of the Seven Kings was refreshing, because it had no bullshit in it.

02:17:22.000 Hey, look, there you go.

02:17:23.000 Wow, Jesus.

02:17:25.000 Well, give the guy a chance.

02:17:26.000 Who knows?

02:17:27.000 Maybe it's awesome.

02:17:28.000 I'm going to say he had a cameo in Desolation of Smog.

02:17:32.000 Oh, no shit.

02:17:33.000 They did an animated series that, uh, The War of Rohan, which was a piece of shit. 1.00

02:17:38.000 They made a girl boss in there. 0.98

02:17:40.000 She had, they had all the cool dudes get killed, and the girl's killing everybody, and she knows everything. 1.00

02:17:47.000 And they took it from like one, like, she was in like one paragraph and fucking in the thing, and they just gave her this big backstory of being a badass.

02:17:55.000 It's like the Fantastic Four with the female Silver Surfer.

02:17:58.000 She appeared in maybe one or two comics. 1.00

02:18:00.000 This bitch is not a main character, no shape, no how, but boom. 0.94

02:18:06.000 Is the real Silver Surfer in it too? 0.99

02:18:08.000 No.

02:18:09.000 They seem silly.

02:18:10.000 Exactly. 0.98

02:18:12.000 So there was a female Silver Surfer for a while? 0.98

02:18:14.000 No.

02:18:15.000 Like, very sporadically.

02:18:16.000 No, but they were.

02:18:19.000 It was actually his.

02:18:20.000 Now you're getting on my nerd side.

02:18:22.000 Yep.

02:18:22.000 It was his wife before he was the Silver Surfer, like Shalabal, it was his chick.

02:18:28.000 And the Russo brothers, they've been hitting it out of the park with every Marvel movie they did.

02:18:36.000 So they're doing Doomsday, which is basically going to be.

02:18:40.000 They're putting out Endgame again in the theaters.

02:18:43.000 And it's going to be directly.

02:18:45.000 It's going to take place directly.

02:18:46.000 Awesome.

02:18:47.000 Good.

02:18:48.000 Well, I heard Ruin King Thor's coming.

02:18:50.000 I'm fucking ready for that.

02:18:51.000 They did Winter Soldier.

02:18:53.000 It's like the highest level of Thor.

02:18:54.000 Oh, that's fucking cool.

02:18:58.000 Let's keep going.

02:18:59.000 Oh, my God, you're such a nerd.

02:19:01.000 It's fucking great.

02:19:03.000 I don't know what this is coming out of.

02:19:04.000 The highest level of Thor.

02:19:05.000 The highest level of Thor is such a crazy thing for a Grown ass man, big ass, fucking grown ass man, fucking ass level of Thor.

02:19:15.000 That stuff's my WWE.

02:19:16.000 I love that shit because I grew up on the comics.

02:19:18.000 I love comics.

02:19:19.000 They ruined those fucking movies, man.

02:19:22.000 It's fucking Thor, Ragnarok was fun, dude, Love and Thunder, horrible.

02:19:27.000 Oh, here's my friend, the rock monster, and here's his life mate, Bob.

02:19:32.000 What the fuck?

02:19:33.000 What does that have to do with anything?

02:19:33.000 Why though?

02:19:34.000 You got to give credit to the DC movies then because they never ruined Batman.

02:19:41.000 The most recent Batmans, at least, the Christian Bale Batmans, and then the new one, Robert Pattinson.

02:19:46.000 It was still pretty dark and like.

02:19:48.000 Yeah.

02:19:48.000 Dark?

02:19:48.000 Just like.

02:19:49.000 Yeah.

02:19:49.000 There was like, there's no bullshit in them.

02:19:51.000 There's no.

02:19:52.000 It wasn't.

02:19:53.000 They fucking murdered that Thor that killed him.

02:19:55.000 And Gore, like, Christian Bale played Gore in that movie.

02:19:58.000 In the comics, that is the fucking best Thor story.

02:20:02.000 Gore's.

02:20:03.000 Like, first off, he didn't love the Mike he did on the movie, but he's killing all the other gods.

02:20:09.000 Like, I mean, Thor, his fucking dad, had to get a whole crew to come and fight this guy, and none of that.

02:20:15.000 Really was showed in the movie at all.

02:20:18.000 It was horrible, Love and Thunder.

02:20:22.000 I didn't know he was such a nerd.

02:20:24.000 Oh, wow.

02:20:24.000 Oh, for comics.

02:20:25.000 I didn't know.

02:20:26.000 Why didn't they do it like the fucking.

02:20:28.000 Look at him there.

02:20:28.000 Oh, wow.

02:20:29.000 See if you can look in the comics, like the comic version of Gore, because it's not even close.

02:20:34.000 He turned into this.

02:20:34.000 So this is already out.

02:20:35.000 This is already out.

02:20:36.000 That was shit, Love and Thunder.

02:20:37.000 Damn, look at his.

02:20:39.000 Click on that with your cursor's on.

02:20:41.000 What the fuck, man?

02:20:42.000 Yeah, they wrecked.

02:20:43.000 He was a perfect guy to play it, but they just ruined the character.

02:20:45.000 Yeah, you can't blame Christian.

02:20:46.000 And bail.

02:20:47.000 Yeah, they should have done it just by the comic books.

02:20:49.000 You shouldn't be able to rewrite history like that and fuck it up.

02:20:53.000 See if it's Gore the God Butcher.

02:20:56.000 Yeah, that's Ruin King Thor, just in case you were wondering.

02:20:59.000 Jesus Christ.

02:21:00.000 How many Thor's are there?

02:21:01.000 How many Thor's are there?

02:21:03.000 Oh, it's the same guy.

02:21:04.000 It's just levels.

02:21:05.000 Oh.

02:21:07.000 Explain that.

02:21:07.000 Uh oh.

02:21:08.000 Whoa.

02:21:09.000 That's from the movie.

02:21:10.000 Damn, he looks good in the movie.

02:21:11.000 That's pretty dope.

02:21:12.000 It's probably also just a rendering because I don't know that they've shown stuff like this.

02:21:16.000 When does the movie come out?

02:21:17.000 Doomsday comes out this year, and so does Dune Messiah.

02:21:17.000 Later this year.

02:21:23.000 It's a good year to be a nerd.

02:21:25.000 Yeah.

02:21:25.000 Well, the nerd movies sell the best if you think about it.

02:21:28.000 Comics movies are like 100% guaranteed.

02:21:31.000 Harry Potter.

02:21:32.000 Yeah.

02:21:33.000 The Harry Potter show that they're doing on HBO, I've read, find out if this is true.

02:21:37.000 Put this into perplexity, our wonderful AI sponsor.

02:21:41.000 It cost them $100 million each episode.

02:21:45.000 What?

02:21:45.000 The new one that's coming out?

02:21:47.000 This new one, apparently, it's so highly produced.

02:21:49.000 It's like they've risked a billion dollars in this series.

02:21:54.000 It's supposed to be insane.

02:21:55.000 So Harry Potter?

02:21:56.000 But it's Harry Potter.

02:21:57.000 I feel like you can't miss with Harry Potter. 1.00

02:21:59.000 Except with trans people. 1.00

02:22:01.000 There's a lot of controversy with the casting because they did a race swap with Snape. 0.86

02:22:09.000 Snape?

02:22:10.000 He's like a guy that's.

02:22:12.000 $100 million per episode.

02:22:13.000 That's going to be a rough one, man, because his backstory is not good.

02:22:17.000 It hasn't been confirmed yet.

02:22:18.000 Several recent reports claim the budget is around $100 million per episode.

02:22:22.000 Jesus.

02:22:22.000 Seven planned seasons, eight episodes per season, 56 episodes total.

02:22:26.000 That per episode figure implies an estimated total production cost of about.

02:22:31.000 $5.6 billion.

02:22:33.000 It looks like it's done well.

02:22:34.000 I saw the suspicions.

02:22:36.000 How are you?

02:22:37.000 You have to.

02:22:37.000 If you're going to do a Harry Potter, you've got to do it to the maximum.

02:22:40.000 I've got to get into Harry Potter because there's not a lot of black characters in it, but there is one. 0.94

02:22:45.000 There's one now.

02:22:46.000 Yeah, they switched into red.

02:22:47.000 But you know what, Harry Potter?

02:22:49.000 Before that, the one character, guess what his name is?

02:22:53.000 I'm not guessing anything.

02:22:54.000 Dean Thomas.

02:22:55.000 Shut the fuck up.

02:22:56.000 I swear to God.

02:22:57.000 Really?

02:22:57.000 I swear to God.

02:22:58.000 Really?

02:22:58.000 I want my royalties for this.

02:23:00.000 I want my royalties.

02:23:01.000 How is it spelled?

02:23:02.000 You got another guy in there.

02:23:03.000 It's definitely not spelled the same way.

02:23:05.000 It is spelled the real way, but.

02:23:07.000 There it is.

02:23:07.000 Yeah.

02:23:08.000 Dean Thomas, my favorite side character.

02:23:08.000 There it is.

02:23:10.000 Yep.

02:23:12.000 Not many blacks. 1.00

02:23:13.000 Get out of here. 1.00

02:23:14.000 The one is Dean Thomas.

02:23:15.000 So why is it controversial?

02:23:17.000 Because they race swapped each other?

02:23:18.000 Because his backstory was, I think he was in love with.

02:23:26.000 Harry's mom, and then they fucking.

02:23:28.000 I think they all beat him up and stuff.

02:23:29.000 It's just not a good look.

02:23:30.000 Mmm.

02:23:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:23:32.000 Because he plays.

02:23:33.000 Black Snape.

02:23:34.000 So you're implying that they beat him up because he's black?

02:23:37.000 Well, I'm not saying that.

02:23:38.000 I'm just saying it's not.

02:23:40.000 I'm saying to make him like a character that's.

02:23:46.000 I don't know.

02:23:47.000 Why does he look like Meek Mill?

02:23:49.000 It could be interesting.

02:23:50.000 Why does he look like Meek Mill?

02:23:52.000 If they just follow the books, it's going to be amazing.

02:23:55.000 Hey, I. You know, I missed the book.

02:23:58.000 I was a little bit older.

02:23:59.000 My kids loved Harry Potter.

02:24:01.000 You know, people, adults, read the books and shit.

02:24:03.000 I think it's the most successful books of all time.

02:24:05.000 Is it?

02:24:06.000 Yeah.

02:24:07.000 I think it's like right up there with the Bible.

02:24:07.000 I think so.

02:24:09.000 Damn. 1.00

02:24:10.000 I feel bad for that lady. 1.00

02:24:11.000 Find that out.

02:24:11.000 Put that into perspective.

02:24:13.000 She got crucified for just.

02:24:14.000 Compare the sales of Harry Potter to the. 0.86

02:24:16.000 She snuck their guns, though. 1.00

02:24:17.000 She got crucified for being logical and reasonable and telling the truth and trying to protect women.

02:24:22.000 And all these fucking people, these actors are still saying she said problematic things.

02:24:26.000 I want to hold them down.

02:24:28.000 Say, tell me what she said that's problematic. 0.98

02:24:29.000 Yeah, that was a bit unfair to her.

02:24:31.000 I'll just go to it.

02:24:32.000 There was an article written about this one actor that did it where it said he is more concerned with being on the right side of Hollywood than the right side of history. 0.61

02:24:41.000 And that's accurate.

02:24:42.000 Yeah.

02:24:43.000 Because these people all don't want to offend these dorks in Hollywood that are out of their fucking minds.

02:24:47.000 Enormously commercially, what does that mean?

02:24:52.000 Enormously commercially successful, but the Bible has sold far more copies overall.

02:24:57.000 Harry Potter series has sold over 500 million copies.

02:25:00.000 Estimated for the Bible is around 5 to 6 billion copies.

02:25:05.000 How many copies of the Quran have been printed?

02:25:11.000 There's also multiple versions of the Bible, and there's seven books of Harry Potter.

02:25:14.000 So, yeah, there's not seven, you know.

02:25:16.000 Right, right, right, right.

02:25:18.000 So, there's 45 books in the Bible, and those are all sold.

02:25:18.000 You could break it down.

02:25:22.000 Yeah, but most people buy it as the Bible.

02:25:23.000 Correct, I know, but there's also the King James Bible, there's the New Testament Bible.

02:25:27.000 And there's the Old Testament, and yeah.

02:25:30.000 So, by fewer copies, Harry Potter book sales are estimated to have generated about $7.7 billion in revenue.

02:25:36.000 There's not a Harry Potter in every hotel room in the country either.

02:25:40.000 That's true.

02:25:41.000 That's a good point.

02:25:43.000 Yeah, they keep that Bible in that hotel room just in case.

02:25:45.000 Right?

02:25:46.000 That's a weird thing, right?

02:25:47.000 Yeah, why do they do that?

02:25:49.000 I think someone donated it.

02:25:51.000 Like, there was a Bill Hicks joke he did about it back in the day.

02:25:55.000 I forget.

02:25:56.000 There was a name on the Bible.

02:25:57.000 Like, it was a da da da Bible.

02:25:59.000 Like, one family donated Bibles to every hotel room.

02:26:04.000 The Gideon Bible?

02:26:05.000 Is that it?

02:26:05.000 I think that's it.

02:26:06.000 I mean, I might be one of the names.

02:26:06.000 Might be.

02:26:08.000 The Gideon family. 0.85

02:26:08.000 I think that was part of the joke. 0.85

02:26:10.000 Who the fuck are the Gideons?

02:26:11.000 I was so depressed when I got here.

02:26:13.000 I brought my MetaQuest.

02:26:15.000 And I realized I brought two right controllers.

02:26:17.000 I'm like, no!

02:26:19.000 I had my headset on.

02:26:21.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no!

02:26:25.000 I'm playing a game now, a new game.

02:26:27.000 What's the game?

02:26:29.000 Jamie, get ready for this.

02:26:30.000 Forefront.

02:26:32.000 16 on 16.

02:26:34.000 There's tanks, there's fucking choppers.

02:26:37.000 F O R E front.

02:26:40.000 It is.

02:26:41.000 Forget about POP 1, forget about contractors.

02:26:43.000 I know I hyped them up on here before.

02:26:45.000 This fucking game is just pure adrenaline.

02:26:51.000 Okay, I just wanted to state that.

02:26:52.000 I just wanted to get that out.

02:26:54.000 Joe, I'm telling you, you used to like the Quake shit.

02:26:57.000 Yeah, I want to see what it looks like.

02:26:58.000 Show me what it looks like.

02:26:59.000 Forefront is so good.

02:27:01.000 This is it.

02:27:01.000 Here it is.

02:27:02.000 Yeah, that's, but where's the gameplay?

02:27:02.000 16 on 16.

02:27:05.000 This is the, you have to, you have to, I love the sniping.

02:27:08.000 Oh, you give me my behemoth and I am fucking taking people out.

02:27:13.000 Did you just bring that dude back to life?

02:27:14.000 Yeah, to get him a better refrigerator.

02:27:17.000 But it is so, look at the tanks.

02:27:20.000 But you're seeing this through your VR.

02:27:22.000 It is so much fun.

02:27:23.000 Me and my brother in law, Edwin, we go on this motherfucker and we take souls.

02:27:28.000 You can get on a bike?

02:27:29.000 You could do the four wheeler.

02:27:31.000 They have anti aircraft. 0.78

02:27:33.000 They have carriers, ACPs.

02:27:35.000 They have tanks.

02:27:36.000 How do you have a life outside of this?

02:27:39.000 Well, I don't.

02:27:40.000 That's the problem with these things. 1.00

02:27:41.000 Listen, I have a house of women, you know? 1.00

02:27:44.000 They're watching Love on the Spectrum and I'm playing this. 1.00

02:27:48.000 The problem is, these are too good.

02:27:49.000 They're too fun.

02:27:50.000 They could take your whole life away.

02:27:52.000 No, I got a two hour time limit on my.

02:27:54.000 I play until my battery dies.

02:27:55.000 That's good.

02:27:56.000 You know?

02:27:57.000 Two hours, that's all those things last?

02:27:59.000 Yeah, around that hour and a half.

02:28:01.000 Hey, after a day of making people more dangerous, do my podcast.

02:28:05.000 You know, I deserve it.

02:28:06.000 I deserve it.

02:28:07.000 No, you deserve it.

02:28:08.000 I'm just scared.

02:28:09.000 I'm scared.

02:28:10.000 I get scared.

02:28:10.000 I watch it.

02:28:11.000 Hey, we could squat up.

02:28:11.000 You should.

02:28:13.000 No, Go on.

02:28:15.000 You would get addicted to this.

02:28:16.000 No, no, no.

02:28:16.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:28:17.000 It's a real problem.

02:28:19.000 Yeah.

02:28:20.000 I can't play these things.

02:28:20.000 It was like.

02:28:21.000 It was like a crackhead that couldn't get his light to work into the.

02:28:24.000 I was like, ah!

02:28:25.000 No!

02:28:27.000 Because that's how I like to kill time here when I'm fucking.

02:28:29.000 I made a decision a long time ago to never bring a gaming setup with me on the road.

02:28:34.000 I'm like, I can't do it.

02:28:36.000 Everywhere he goes, I start playing.

02:28:36.000 Yeah.

02:28:38.000 I'll be up to 4 o'clock in the morning.

02:28:41.000 I'll be like any first person shooter where you're running around a map and there's another dude on the map and you've got to get a rocket launcher and fuck him up.

02:28:48.000 It starts to feel real.

02:28:49.000 It feels very real.

02:28:50.000 Me last night, then I had to go back.

02:28:52.000 What is this one?

02:28:53.000 Oh, this is Doom.

02:28:53.000 Old fashioned.

02:28:55.000 Oh my God, it's Doom.

02:28:57.000 It's Doom in VR.

02:28:59.000 Oh no, this is a problem.

02:29:00.000 I gotta find this.

02:29:01.000 But Doom is.

02:29:02.000 I actually think this is the second player of Quake.

02:29:05.000 Yeah.

02:29:06.000 Oh, it is Quake 1.

02:29:07.000 Yeah.

02:29:07.000 Oh, wow.

02:29:08.000 You like the Quake stuff, though.

02:29:10.000 Love it.

02:29:11.000 But I'm more of a Quake 3 Arena guy.

02:29:14.000 Because Quake 3 Arena, like, show them some Quake 3 Arena.

02:29:14.000 Four.

02:29:17.000 They got the graphics down and then they had it set up where everything was online.

02:29:22.000 So, you didn't have to buy the new version of Quake and download it to your computer and run it and play it.

02:29:28.000 No, it's online.

02:29:29.000 So, you just log in and you're playing this streaming.

02:29:32.000 And it's fucking phenomenal.

02:29:34.000 It's like that now.

02:29:35.000 With the meta, you just get updates.

02:29:36.000 Show some highlights of gameplay so you can see what it looks like.

02:29:39.000 It's supposed to be the VR version.

02:29:40.000 Here it is.

02:29:41.000 Oh, this is the VR version?

02:29:42.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.

02:29:44.000 Why are you showing me this?

02:29:46.000 Don't show me this.

02:29:47.000 Because I was going to tell you next that the Apple Vision Pro is being updated now so we can play with higher.

02:29:51.000 Shut the fuck up.

02:29:52.000 Don't do this to me, dude.

02:29:53.000 Don't do this to me.

02:29:54.000 This is my game.

02:29:55.000 I fucking love this shit.

02:29:56.000 As if you had a Starlink, I could do this on the plane. 0.92

02:29:58.000 Shut the fuck up.

02:29:59.000 Oh, you're just kidding.

02:30:00.000 I'm not doing this.

02:30:01.000 Is it a battle royale?

02:30:02.000 You just got to kill everybody?

02:30:03.000 Yeah.

02:30:04.000 The problem is, man, I start doing it, and if I start fucking people up, I can't stop.

02:30:08.000 It's fun, dude.

02:30:09.000 And I got pretty good at it.

02:30:11.000 Not like, you know, I could win tournaments good, but I got pretty good at it.

02:30:15.000 Like, I fucked these guys up.

02:30:16.000 The dudes in the studio, I fucked up.

02:30:18.000 Oh, dude.

02:30:19.000 I would get real addicted to it.

02:30:21.000 Yeah, that's a problem.

02:30:22.000 And then I start playing online and just going into rooms.

02:30:24.000 Next thing you know, yep, your life is ruined.

02:30:26.000 Oh, this is one of my favorite maps.

02:30:28.000 You bounce out to this one and everybody can see you, so they're all sniping you when you try to come back.

02:30:31.000 When you get the god power, now you just fucking destroy everyone.

02:30:36.000 You're speaking my language.

02:30:36.000 You're right.

02:30:38.000 Yeah, look at this, bro.

02:30:38.000 You got a rail gun, precision movement.

02:30:40.000 Boom, look at that.

02:30:41.000 That's the rail.

02:30:42.000 Look at the rail gun, bro.

02:30:44.000 You got to have super accuracy.

02:30:46.000 Boom.

02:30:47.000 And while you got god power, you just have to hit him once.

02:30:49.000 Boom.

02:30:51.000 Boom, look at that.

02:30:52.000 Oh, shit.

02:30:53.000 This guy's got timing.

02:30:56.000 This is a dick.

02:30:57.000 This is like, I'm watching people smoke crack, and I'm going, oh, give me that pipe, baby.

02:31:04.000 Give me that pipe.

02:31:05.000 It's so funny.

02:31:06.000 But if that was VR, I would never have a life.

02:31:08.000 I don't have a life.

02:31:09.000 I can't do it.

02:31:10.000 It just helps balance me out.

02:31:13.000 You know what it's like, dude?

02:31:14.000 It's like jujitsu if you never got tired.

02:31:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:31:17.000 Well, that's why you have the battery life on it.

02:31:19.000 That thing gets tired.

02:31:20.000 Imagine jujitsu if you never got tired.

02:31:22.000 You just do it all day.

02:31:23.000 If you never got hurt, you never got tired.

02:31:24.000 You would just be training constantly.

02:31:26.000 Especially if you were fucking people up.

02:31:27.000 Oh, my God.

02:31:28.000 Always winning and tapping people out.

02:31:29.000 Once you got to a certain level.

02:31:31.000 I mean, this is to me straight crack.

02:31:34.000 Oh, dude, that looks fun.

02:31:35.000 Come on, how fun is this game?

02:31:36.000 You're swapping weapons instantaneously, and you have certain weapons set to different keys.

02:31:40.000 Like, my railgun is always this middle of the wheel button.

02:31:44.000 I hit that motherfucker, I get the railgun, and you can adjust the speed of your mouse depending on the weapon.

02:31:51.000 Do you hear the other players?

02:31:52.000 Do they complain when you use a certain weapon?

02:31:54.000 I don't know if they use that with this.

02:31:58.000 I don't.

02:31:58.000 I never did.

02:31:59.000 When you chat with Quake, you would have.

02:32:01.000 To pull the menu down and chat.

02:32:02.000 If you have a bunch of people talking while you're playing, it's going to ruin your game experience.

02:32:05.000 Yeah, sometimes with this, with the forefront.

02:32:08.000 I don't want anybody talking shit.

02:32:09.000 I just want to kill you.

02:32:10.000 They're like, Good job.

02:32:12.000 Yeah, good job, Unk.

02:32:13.000 They call me Unk.

02:32:14.000 Good job, Unk. 1.00

02:32:15.000 You had to use a shotgun, pussy. 0.99

02:32:17.000 I'm like, You know, I try to be mature. 0.97

02:32:19.000 I'm like, You're dead, you little fuck.

02:32:20.000 You're dead. 1.00

02:32:21.000 You should use a shotgun, cocksucker. 1.00

02:32:24.000 Yeah, they complain when I kill them. 1.00

02:32:25.000 They're like, What are you, 30?

02:32:26.000 You're playing a game?

02:32:27.000 I'm like, Well, I'm actually 50.

02:32:31.000 Thank you, kid.

02:32:34.000 I'll take 30.

02:32:36.000 I'm like, well, I remember when I was in high school, I found out Madonna was 26.

02:32:40.000 I was like, oh, she's old.

02:32:44.000 Dude, I remember getting ready for a fight at 35.

02:32:47.000 I was getting ready for Trigg, and I had Gian Vellante there.

02:32:49.000 Now he's older than this now.

02:32:50.000 He's like, dude, how does it feel to be 35?

02:32:52.000 I go, dude, fuck you.

02:32:53.000 I'm still fighting.

02:32:55.000 Fuck you.

02:32:56.000 You know, I bring that up to him now.

02:32:57.000 He's like 40 now.

02:32:58.000 I say, you caught up to me a little, you know?

02:33:00.000 Yeah, man.

02:33:02.000 We're all dying.

02:33:02.000 It's weird.

02:33:03.000 I know.

02:33:04.000 I mean, I think about it.

02:33:05.000 We don't have much time left.

02:33:07.000 I'm 58.

02:33:08.000 What are you, Johnny?

02:33:10.000 Damn.

02:33:10.000 57.

02:33:10.000 Oh, you guys could have worked in high school together.

02:33:12.000 You're the class above them.

02:33:14.000 I'm 51.

02:33:15.000 Young man!

02:33:16.000 I'm still only 49.

02:33:17.000 You're full of shit.

02:33:18.000 I'm 49.

02:33:19.000 Keeping it together.

02:33:20.000 Yeah.

02:33:20.000 All right.

02:33:20.000 I like it.

02:33:21.000 I thought you would be like a Brazilian. 1.00

02:33:22.000 Jodrigo Gracie used to lie about his fucking age like a chick. 0.89

02:33:26.000 Dude, you're my age.

02:33:28.000 What does he say fucking 29 still?

02:33:29.000 What are you talking about?

02:33:31.000 No one knows how old Yoel is.

02:33:33.000 Yeah, I bet.

02:33:34.000 He's probably older.

02:33:36.000 I know.

02:33:36.000 He might be older.

02:33:38.000 It does feel weird when you say 51.

02:33:40.000 Like when I say 51, I'm like, well, 50s.

02:33:42.000 And I'm all when you're younger, you never really picture you'll be at me, too.

02:33:45.000 I'm almost 60.

02:33:46.000 I mean, when we were growing up, though, 60 was broken down.

02:33:49.000 Yeah, it's a big difference.

02:33:50.000 Shout out to Ways to Well, yeah, right?

02:33:52.000 Yeah, life med for me at home.

02:33:54.000 Ways to Well, you look at you hang out with younger guys because I hang out with all younger guys.

02:33:59.000 You're in the gym, you're with younger people, yeah.

02:34:01.000 I'm always with younger comics, unless it's Ron White, right?

02:34:04.000 It's those worlds.

02:34:05.000 And I bet you, when you hang out with Ron White, it doesn't feel like you're hanging out with an old man, no, it's like me and Longo, he's awesome, he's a gem, yeah.

02:34:13.000 Longo's 67.

02:34:14.000 He'll just say, he'll.

02:34:16.000 Throw away something that'll just be so funny where I'll be dying laughing.

02:34:20.000 He's a naturally funny dude and just a sweetheart of a guy.

02:34:23.000 He was good in tires, also.

02:34:24.000 Oh, he's great.

02:34:25.000 I like that show.

02:34:26.000 Yeah, well, you know, he's homies with Shane.

02:34:28.000 Shane's always there, too.

02:34:31.000 Tonight, it's but that's again like young people that are doing the thing we all love to do, having fun, just just like a jujitsu gym, just like anything else.

02:34:39.000 You know, I mean, this idea that you have to one day grow up like that's not true.

02:34:43.000 I'm here to tell you, it's not true.

02:34:44.000 You should grow up in some ways, like be a good dad, take care of your taxes, you know, that kind of stuff.

02:34:49.000 Well, you're looking at me after that.

02:34:51.000 After that, shut up, shut up, have fun.

02:34:53.000 Oh, that's that's me in a nutshell.

02:34:56.000 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with you playing those games, just don't tell those kids how old you are.

02:35:01.000 I know, dude.

02:35:02.000 You call me an old man, you're like, this guy sounds.

02:35:04.000 30.

02:35:05.000 I'm like, you little fuck.

02:35:06.000 Yeah.

02:35:07.000 God knows.

02:35:07.000 But it's.

02:35:08.000 Don't have a heart attack for real.

02:35:10.000 You have to take any shit breaks in the middle of your VR experiences?

02:35:14.000 No, but.

02:35:14.000 You wear a diaper?

02:35:16.000 I'm not above teabagging those little bastards when they get wise. 1.00

02:35:20.000 I'm squatting down on them in my fucking thing in my VR.

02:35:22.000 You teabag a guy after you kill him?

02:35:24.000 They get mouthy.

02:35:25.000 I will teabag some of them.

02:35:26.000 I don't give a fuck.

02:35:27.000 You don't outgrow that.

02:35:29.000 So you actually squat physically and it does it?

02:35:32.000 Maybe. 1.00

02:35:33.000 My wife's like, what are you doing? 1.00

02:35:34.000 I'm like, give me a moment. 1.00

02:35:35.000 He deserves it, honey.

02:35:36.000 Fuck you.

02:35:38.000 Crazy.

02:35:39.000 Listen.

02:35:39.000 That's crazy.

02:35:40.000 Sometimes it's different than a video control.

02:35:43.000 You're actually squatting.

02:35:44.000 That's crazy.

02:35:45.000 I can get my squats in.

02:35:47.000 Have you seen those multi directional treadmills that you're doing those games on now?

02:35:51.000 My knees aren't good for that.

02:35:51.000 Yeah, but I'm not running.

02:35:53.000 So there's a treadmill, like a circle, and it goes in any direction, omnidirectional, I think they call it.

02:35:57.000 And you're strapped in with a harness that you can shoot from.

02:36:00.000 And you just move.

02:36:01.000 You move like you're running.

02:36:02.000 You would be in insane shape.

02:36:04.000 There would be some people in better shape.

02:36:06.000 Oh, do you?

02:36:07.000 You would think how good that would be for your footwork?

02:36:10.000 Like, if you could have a VR, there's a good VR boxing game.

02:36:14.000 And one of the things that I noticed when I was playing it was my feet were hurting.

02:36:18.000 Because I was doing it on concrete, on cement, and I was wearing like Converse All Stars, and you just push it off your feet all the time.

02:36:25.000 I was like, oh my God, I'm getting a footwork out.

02:36:27.000 This is crazy.

02:36:28.000 Like, it was gassing me out.

02:36:29.000 Because you really see the guy, and he pops you, everything goes white.

02:36:32.000 Like, you got stunned, like, boom, oh shit.

02:36:35.000 And you got to get them back, right?

02:36:36.000 And you're moving, you're moving around stuff.

02:36:38.000 There's a bunch of them.

02:36:39.000 I got to get into those.

02:36:40.000 It is tiring.

02:36:41.000 I've done that before.

02:36:42.000 What's stupid is.

02:36:43.000 When you hold the gloves, like if you hold the hand things like this, it shows the gloves like this.

02:36:50.000 So when you're punching, it looks like you're punching them wrong.

02:36:53.000 So it fucks your head up.

02:36:54.000 Yeah.

02:36:55.000 You know what I mean?

02:36:55.000 So when you're twisting to punch, it's showing this and it fucks your head up.

02:36:59.000 Just give it a fucking wing chung punch. 1.00

02:37:01.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:37:01.000 Right. 1.00

02:37:02.000 So like if you punch like this, it'll look like the knuckles are coming up, but you're doing this.

02:37:06.000 Oh, yeah.

02:37:07.000 Then you figure, how can't they get that?

02:37:08.000 They should get that right.

02:37:09.000 It should be where your hands are positioned.

02:37:11.000 Exactly.

02:37:12.000 So if you hold it like that, it should be the gloves are like that.

02:37:14.000 And then you turn it like that and it looks.

02:37:15.000 So that way, it doesn't fuck with your head while you're punching that thing because it's weird.

02:37:19.000 Clearly, the developers weren't bots.

02:37:21.000 They just had programmers and fixed that.

02:37:23.000 But I think there's some real benefit in it for real because, first of all, it's harder to hit air than it is to hit a thing, right?

02:37:30.000 So you get a little workout doing that.

02:37:31.000 The things don't weigh much, but you'd always put like a little wrist weight or something like that, or someone could make a controller that has lead in it that has a couple of pounds for each one. 0.55

02:37:41.000 You would get good endurance doing it, and you're doing a lot of footwork drills because, like, you're Lomachenko and it's definitely moving around. 0.79

02:37:47.000 It's good for you. 0.92

02:37:48.000 And it's also showing you how to move away from things and counter.

02:37:53.000 There's a bunch of different things that you could actually apply.

02:37:56.000 It's better than real shadow boxing.

02:37:57.000 Yeah, I was about to say, it's like intense, extreme shadow boxing.

02:38:01.000 Yes, yes.

02:38:02.000 It's like you're really visualizing because there's an actual thing in front of you.

02:38:06.000 I think there's benefit to it.

02:38:07.000 I think it would help you.

02:38:08.000 I mean, 100% I think there'd be benefit.

02:38:11.000 Yeah, and you're not getting hit, right?

02:38:13.000 So it's timing work.

02:38:14.000 You're not getting the CTE along with it.

02:38:17.000 It's not going to replace sparring.

02:38:19.000 You're always going to need to spar.

02:38:20.000 But it'll give you a lot of like neural pathways to different movements that you'll have like programmed in you in a fight with zero consequences.

02:38:29.000 Right.

02:38:29.000 That's great.

02:38:30.000 Yeah.

02:38:31.000 You can't do it with jujitsu, unfortunately.

02:38:33.000 But you probably could with a robot one day.

02:38:35.000 Right.

02:38:36.000 Like you get a good AI robot, you know, that's not going to spaz out on you and rip your fucking head off.

02:38:43.000 I would never trust that, right?

02:38:44.000 Imagine the AI got mad if you just tapped so many times.

02:38:47.000 I'm going to show you my real strength.

02:38:49.000 Yeah.

02:38:50.000 Dean, in this next role, I'm not going to go easy.

02:38:53.000 What?

02:38:54.000 What do you mean?

02:38:54.000 I'm watching.

02:38:55.000 You know what?

02:38:56.000 Fuck your eyes out.

02:38:57.000 You got me. 1.00

02:38:57.000 You fucking heel hook. 1.00

02:38:59.000 Only because they look human, the Cyclons. 1.00

02:39:02.000 I'm watching the Battlestar Galactica. 1.00

02:39:04.000 I started watching it.

02:39:05.000 It's really good.

02:39:05.000 It's great.

02:39:06.000 It's really good.

02:39:07.000 I thought, what is that on?

02:39:08.000 I'm almost on the first season.

02:39:09.000 It was on the Sci Fi Network years ago.

02:39:12.000 It was an unappreciated series.

02:39:15.000 It's one of the greatest sci fi series of all time.

02:39:18.000 The reboot of Battlestar Galactica.

02:39:20.000 And I was super skeptical.

02:39:22.000 Because Battlestar Galactica, when I was a kid, I loved it.

02:39:25.000 Yeah, everybody.

02:39:26.000 It was a big.

02:39:26.000 Super campy.

02:39:27.000 It was a very campy. 1.00

02:39:29.000 All of a sudden, Skywalker was a girl now.

02:39:31.000 It's like, what? 0.86

02:39:32.000 Or Starbucks. 1.00

02:39:33.000 Starbucks was a girl now. 0.72

02:39:34.000 Katie's amazing.

02:39:35.000 She's great now. 0.85

02:39:36.000 That fucking series rules, dude.

02:39:38.000 It's great.

02:39:39.000 It's great writing.

02:39:41.000 I'm on the first season.

02:39:42.000 I'm almost done with it now.

02:39:43.000 I got like an episode left.

02:39:44.000 Way better than the original series.

02:39:46.000 It's really fucking good.

02:39:47.000 It's phenomenal.

02:39:48.000 It's really good.

02:39:49.000 And the Cylons scare the fuck out of you. 0.97

02:39:51.000 And they're hot chicks. 0.99

02:39:52.000 Yeah. 0.92

02:39:52.000 It's awesome. 0.92

02:39:53.000 It's ruined your life.

02:39:54.000 Oh, my favorite.

02:39:56.000 Oh, it's good.

02:39:56.000 Yeah, everybody's favorite.

02:39:58.000 It's great.

02:39:59.000 It's a great.

02:40:00.000 Fucking series, John James Elmos or whatever.

02:40:03.000 James Elmos, yeah, he was great in that.

02:40:04.000 Is he alive?

02:40:06.000 Did he die?

02:40:07.000 I don't know.

02:40:08.000 James Almos, is he alive?

02:40:09.000 Is it now?

02:40:10.000 There's no way.

02:40:10.000 Edward James, Edward James Almos, that's right.

02:40:13.000 He was great in that. 0.98

02:40:14.000 Yeah, Mexican prison movie.

02:40:14.000 He's great.

02:40:16.000 Remember that?

02:40:17.000 Yeah, what was that?

02:40:18.000 Blood in, blood out.

02:40:19.000 You got in trouble with that.

02:40:21.000 They wanted to kill him because they made it out like these dudes were fucking each other in jail.

02:40:26.000 Oh, they're not?

02:40:28.000 Yeah.

02:40:28.000 Even if they are.

02:40:29.000 Yeah.

02:40:30.000 Don't talk about it.

02:40:31.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:40:32.000 Snitches get stitches. 1.00

02:40:33.000 Yeah, man.

02:40:34.000 I think people died because of that movie.

02:40:35.000 No.

02:40:36.000 Yeah, I think people were killed.

02:40:37.000 I heard something about that.

02:40:39.000 Yeah.

02:40:41.000 Makes you not want to go to jail.

02:40:42.000 Well, I just don't think they let these dudes know how they were going to portray him in jail.

02:40:47.000 And I think, you know.

02:40:48.000 Yeah, they weren't happy about that.

02:40:51.000 Severe disrespect.

02:40:53.000 Is he alive?

02:40:53.000 Edward James Olmos?

02:40:55.000 Yes.

02:40:56.000 Oh, good for him.

02:40:57.000 79.

02:40:57.000 He's phenomenal on that show.

02:40:59.000 Phenomenal on that show.

02:41:00.000 Yeah.

02:41:01.000 It's a great show.

02:41:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:41:04.000 I think I heard you talking about it, and I put it in there.

02:41:06.000 I got it on Amazon Prime.

02:41:07.000 I bought the first season.

02:41:08.000 It's fucking good.

02:41:09.000 There's another Amazon series.

02:41:11.000 What's it called?

02:41:12.000 Not The Eclipse.

02:41:14.000 The Expanse.

02:41:14.000 Yes, yes.

02:41:15.000 That's supposed to be phenomenal.

02:41:16.000 I watched a bunch of those.

02:41:17.000 I got to get back into that.

02:41:19.000 Sometimes it gets a little chatty.

02:41:20.000 I watched a couple of them.

02:41:21.000 I was like, I see this could be really good, but my wife wasn't into it, so we abandoned it.

02:41:25.000 It's good.

02:41:26.000 I keep hearing.

02:41:27.000 I keep hearing.

02:41:28.000 I hear once you get past the first few episodes, it really picks up.

02:41:31.000 Yeah, it's good.

02:41:32.000 It has Thomas Jane.

02:41:36.000 What's Thomas Jane?

02:41:37.000 Oh, yeah, he played the Punisher.

02:41:38.000 Yeah, he's in at least the first season.

02:41:41.000 It's good.

02:41:42.000 The guy who's the lead guy reminds me of Jon Snow.

02:41:45.000 Really?

02:41:45.000 He looks like a skinnier Jon Snow.

02:41:48.000 John Bernthal played the Punisher, right?

02:41:50.000 Yeah.

02:41:51.000 There's a bunch of people who played him.

02:41:52.000 How many people played the Punisher?

02:41:53.000 Well, I mean, the guy from Run.

02:41:56.000 Did Dolph Lundgren do it before?

02:41:57.000 Yeah, that's back in the day.

02:41:59.000 Dolph Lundgren did?

02:41:59.000 Way back in the day.

02:42:00.000 They had at least four or five of them.

02:42:02.000 They gave him fakes double, and it was obvious.

02:42:04.000 It was like literally, the makeup lady didn't even try.

02:42:07.000 She just smudged some face.

02:42:09.000 It's the worst looking face stubble you've ever seen in your fucking life. 0.99

02:42:14.000 See if you can find that.

02:42:15.000 Dolph Lundgren face stubble from The Punisher.

02:42:18.000 It's like you're looking at that and go, just leave him unshaven.

02:42:21.000 Yeah, he was cool as him.

02:42:23.000 There you go.

02:42:24.000 There's the guy from Rome, Stevenson.

02:42:25.000 I know, but you can't see it in there.

02:42:27.000 Like a photo from the actual movie, it looked like, why does he have smudges all over his cheeks?

02:42:33.000 Yeah, I like Barenthal the best.

02:42:35.000 The new Spider Man movie, he's going to be in it.

02:42:37.000 The Punisher.

02:42:38.000 The Punisher's supposed to be gigantic, though.

02:42:40.000 He's supposed to be like that dude that plays Reaper.

02:42:44.000 I thought Ray Stevenson was a Reaper.

02:42:45.000 Oh, Reacher.

02:42:46.000 Yeah, Adam Richmond.

02:42:48.000 He's supposed to be like Adam Richmond.

02:42:49.000 That's what the Punisher's supposed to be.

02:42:51.000 He's supposed to be a giant jack dude who kills everybody.

02:42:53.000 And good for Reacher for smacking that guy around. 0.74

02:42:56.000 That guy deserved it.

02:42:57.000 That guy deserved it.

02:42:57.000 He looks like he's riding with his kids.

02:42:59.000 The guy got in his face, made him drop his bike, got in his face again.

02:43:03.000 He deserved the smack.

02:43:04.000 He pushed him off his bike.

02:43:05.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:43:06.000 That guy looked like a retard. 1.00

02:43:06.000 What the hell? 1.00

02:43:07.000 Well, he said he was drunk.

02:43:09.000 So the guy smelled like booze.

02:43:10.000 I know shit.

02:43:11.000 He was asking, they showed the cops' version of the video when they went to his house.

02:43:11.000 Smack him up.

02:43:15.000 He's like, Could you run a toxicology on that guy?

02:43:17.000 Because I think he's drunk.

02:43:18.000 He smelled like liquor.

02:43:19.000 The guy tried to knock him up.

02:43:20.000 But you see that guy?

02:43:21.000 What are you doing?

02:43:22.000 Why are you pushing that guy?

02:43:23.000 He's real lucky he had that camera on.

02:43:25.000 You know what I mean?

02:43:26.000 Oh, 100%.

02:43:27.000 Because if you only got to see him beating that guy up, that would have been a real fucking problem.

02:43:32.000 Because that guy denied it.

02:43:33.000 But he had a camera going on his chest pack.

02:43:36.000 Luckily.

02:43:37.000 You see that guy grabbing the bike and pushing him.

02:43:39.000 Yeah.

02:43:40.000 Got to put hands on him first.

02:43:41.000 In front of kids, man.

02:43:43.000 So many people out there.

02:43:44.000 If you're on a bike and you fall and the bike falls in your leg, like you fucking idiot.

02:43:48.000 You know, that's dangerous.

02:43:48.000 Yeah.

02:43:49.000 You break someone's fucking leg that way, you Trump fuck.

02:43:52.000 100% warranted.

02:43:54.000 When I went to go see that Project Hail Mary the other day, dude, these motherfuckers, I got the second row and sure enough, the first row, like five teenagers, dude, they don't even, they have their phone and it's bright and you see it.

02:44:10.000 Like they don't give a fuck.

02:44:12.000 The lady, there's a couple next to me, older. 0.99

02:44:15.000 The lady comes out, she takes the thing out.

02:44:18.000 I'm like, I feel like saying, you should know better, lady.

02:44:22.000 What the fuck?

02:44:23.000 And the kids, I want to, a couple times I got up and then they put it down.

02:44:29.000 I'm like, I know I'm going to say something.

02:44:31.000 And if I get the wrong response, am I going to smack a 15 year old?

02:44:35.000 Am I going to smack, if I get a fuck you guy, what's going to happen?

02:44:40.000 Because I'm not totally normal.

02:44:42.000 I mean, you know what I mean?

02:44:45.000 I just don't want to, because there's right and there's wrong.

02:44:48.000 A whole generation has not been checked.

02:44:50.000 They're going to get smacked because they're valiant.

02:44:52.000 And I just see UFC fighter smacks 15 year old.

02:44:52.000 100%.

02:44:55.000 I'm like, no.

02:44:56.000 I just see that happening.

02:44:58.000 But anyway, I got out of there without nothing.

02:45:00.000 But it's just so annoying.

02:45:01.000 It's all annoying.

02:45:02.000 Kids are so addicted to their phones.

02:45:04.000 They can't put them down for five seconds.

02:45:05.000 Just how it hurts.

02:45:06.000 And who cares?

02:45:07.000 In movie theater, they can't stop texting people.

02:45:07.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:45:09.000 Yeah.

02:45:10.000 Because they're not enjoying anything.

02:45:11.000 Everything they're doing, they're getting distracted.

02:45:13.000 Yeah.

02:45:14.000 Which is crazy.

02:45:14.000 Yeah.

02:45:15.000 I feel like talking to their parents.

02:45:17.000 That's not going to help.

02:45:18.000 You know?

02:45:19.000 No, you got to smack them. 1.00

02:45:21.000 Someone's got to smack them. 0.99

02:45:22.000 Yeah.

02:45:22.000 Man.

02:45:23.000 I'll tell you.

02:45:24.000 That happened.

02:45:25.000 Our generation, if you acted a fool, you got slapped.

02:45:27.000 Yeah, if you talk mouth in a movie theater, someone's going to get up.

02:45:30.000 You know, if you were loud in a movie theater, people would get up and, hey, shut the fuck up.

02:45:34.000 Like, I've seen that happen many times in movie theaters.

02:45:34.000 Yeah.

02:45:37.000 People almost get in fights.

02:45:37.000 Yeah.

02:45:39.000 They don't do that no more.

02:45:42.000 There's no repercussions, I think.

02:45:45.000 What did Mike Tyson say?

02:45:47.000 He said something like, a lot of people are getting used to talking shit without getting snacked or something.

02:45:47.000 What did he say?

02:45:51.000 Until you get punched in the face.

02:45:52.000 Something like that, yeah. 0.97

02:45:53.000 And it's just true.

02:45:54.000 Like, people just don't worry about anything.

02:45:56.000 You know, but there's also so many streamers that are doing these things online where they're provoking people on purpose that it's almost like normalizing.

02:46:04.000 I hate that, yeah.

02:46:05.000 I like when they get smacked, yeah.

02:46:06.000 They think it's like they're creating content by harassing these people, fucking with old people, like just walking up to people in the store and yeah, doing to them.

02:46:15.000 I don't, I don't understand it.

02:46:16.000 Tiki elbowed that kid in the face.

02:46:19.000 Oh, yeah, you know what? 0.99

02:46:20.000 Fuck that kid, he's starting with everybody.

02:46:22.000 I was, yeah, dude.

02:46:23.000 I mean, that's, I mean, I looked at that, I'm like, that's warranted.

02:46:26.000 I mean, you're in my face, tell me you're gonna fuck me up, I could do this.

02:46:29.000 He said he's gonna fuck him up, and then he got.

02:46:31.000 Close to them, like you're gonna bump into them, yeah.

02:46:33.000 But I mean, and you know what?

02:46:35.000 They don't even give a shit because they get clicks.

02:46:36.000 I don't think they give a shit. 0.54

02:46:37.000 That's because that's because like they're getting hit by like regular people, except for the tiki case, but they're getting by regular people. 1.00

02:46:43.000 Like, I'm waiting for the opportunity to lay these for five on somebody's chin. 1.00

02:46:51.000 They'll be the first time they'll put somebody as charges, they'll press charges, they'll sue you.

02:46:56.000 I know, also, you know, if you knock somebody out and they fall and hit their head and die, that's a fucking problem, and that's a real possibility, yeah.

02:47:04.000 Strangle him and lay him down.

02:47:04.000 Body shots.

02:47:06.000 Right, but you know you're not going to throw a body shot.

02:47:06.000 That liver shot.

02:47:08.000 Oh, yeah, it's awesome.

02:47:09.000 This dummy's gotten a fight with the former UFC heavyweight champion, the current bare knuckle boxing champion in the world.

02:47:15.000 You dumbasses.

02:47:16.000 That was hilarious when I saw this.

02:47:18.000 Look, he's just teeing off on dudes.

02:47:19.000 Imagine you getting Andre Orlovsky's face.

02:47:22.000 How the fuck do you not know who he is, first of all?

02:47:24.000 Again, my point is exactly how do you not know who Andre Orlovsky is?

02:47:28.000 And then they got their bodyguards next to them to try to.

02:47:31.000 Shout out to that dude.

02:47:33.000 Oh, Alasky's a stud.

02:47:35.000 Yeah.

02:47:35.000 I mean, he's still getting after it, and he still seems to enjoy it.

02:47:39.000 Like almost 30 years into games.

02:47:41.000 And he's the guy that you kind of wrote off his chin a while ago, and then all of a sudden it's like, I never saw a chin make a comeback.

02:47:46.000 Oh, incredible comeback.

02:47:48.000 Dude, Freddie Roach said he thought he could really be a contender if he just had a proper chin.

02:47:53.000 He said his boxing skills were there.

02:47:56.000 Well, I mean, there were so many times where he got clipped.

02:47:59.000 Like the Fedor one was the wildest.

02:48:01.000 He was winning that fight.

02:48:02.000 Dude, he was good.

02:48:02.000 Yeah, he was.

02:48:04.000 Yeah, he was.

02:48:05.000 He was in the middle of a jumping knee.

02:48:07.000 Yeah, he was.

02:48:08.000 Big mistake.

02:48:08.000 Laces out moment right there.

02:48:10.000 Fedor, that motherfucker just found ways to win.

02:48:13.000 He just found ways to win, man.

02:48:15.000 Remember when Randleman.

02:48:15.000 Sure did.

02:48:16.000 Was it Randleman?

02:48:17.000 I was like, he still beat him, yeah.

02:48:19.000 He still fixed him on his neck.

02:48:21.000 Then he camoured him.

02:48:21.000 Yeah.

02:48:22.000 Yeah, like.

02:48:23.000 It ain't easy to camoure a gorilla.

02:48:25.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:48:26.000 Randleman was so explosive.

02:48:28.000 It was so fast.

02:48:29.000 That guy was just nothing but saying switch muscle fiber.

02:48:33.000 Pre-USAG 100, 100.

02:48:34.000 Right?

02:48:35.000 He had the worst staff I've ever seen in my life.

02:48:38.000 Oh, there was a leg, right?

02:48:39.000 He had holes in his armpit.

02:48:41.000 He lifted his armpit up, and you could see the skin was gone.

02:48:41.000 Oh.

02:48:44.000 You could see the tendons and all the ligaments underneath it.

02:48:46.000 See if you can find it, Jamie.

02:48:48.000 It's the craziest thing because staff, if you don't get that shit treated right away and you let it get systemic, I mean, it probably led to his early demise.

02:48:56.000 It probably was something that led to him dying early.

02:48:58.000 Rest in peace.

02:48:59.000 Look at that.

02:49:00.000 That's his armpit.

02:49:01.000 That's his armpit, dude.

02:49:03.000 Keep his fucking wallet in there.

02:49:05.000 You know how crazy that is?

02:49:06.000 You know how crazy that kind of hole is and what that does to your body?

02:49:09.000 God damn.

02:49:10.000 Because it's not, even when that heals up, like it's going to take a long time before your body gets back to normal.

02:49:15.000 Oof, man.

02:49:16.000 Staff's scary, man.

02:49:17.000 Staff's real scary.

02:49:18.000 Oh, come on, man.

02:49:19.000 I want to say.

02:49:20.000 I want to say.

02:49:24.000 Pete Spratt fought a fight when he didn't fight one.

02:49:27.000 He got bit by a fucking hole in it.

02:49:31.000 Well, those are scary.

02:49:32.000 Those fuckers. 1.00

02:49:33.000 They necrotize you. 0.97

02:49:33.000 Damn. 0.97

02:49:36.000 Their venom burns a hole through your muscle tissue.

02:49:38.000 Oh, it's horrible.

02:49:40.000 You ever see brown recluse spider bites?

02:49:42.000 No.

02:49:43.000 It's like first it just swells up and you get like a big zit on it and then it eventually eats the tissue underneath the venom.

02:49:49.000 Fucking spiders.

02:49:51.000 Yeah, you got to get that treated right away.

02:49:52.000 And even then, it's like really dangerous.

02:49:55.000 People die from it.

02:49:56.000 Brown recluse are scary fucking spiders.

02:49:58.000 See if you can find brown recluse spider injury.

02:50:03.000 Yeah.

02:50:03.000 Nasty, dude.

02:50:04.000 Yeah.

02:50:05.000 Creepy little fucking bugs out there.

02:50:07.000 I'm gonna get the eggplant rollatini later.

02:50:10.000 We'll see what else we have.

02:50:13.000 I just wanna show you one more gross thing, and then we can move on. 0.94

02:50:16.000 Land. 0.94

02:50:19.000 Dang.

02:50:20.000 Yeah, look at that shit, man.

02:50:21.000 Come on, man.

02:50:22.000 Was that a water balloon?

02:50:24.000 Ooh, that burns a hole in you.

02:50:27.000 Yo, where do those things live at?

02:50:28.000 I don't wanna get bit by that.

02:50:29.000 Texas.

02:50:30.000 They're all over the place.

02:50:31.000 Get me out of here.

02:50:32.000 They're all over the place.

02:50:33.000 We're so lucky they're little.

02:50:36.000 You got that shit out here, those things?

02:50:37.000 But imagine that I was as big as a bear.

02:50:39.000 Yeah.

02:50:40.000 Take over the planet.

02:50:41.000 This is why we're here.

02:50:42.000 This Ladger of Praying Man is as big as a bear.

02:50:44.000 Dude, in Long Island, I guess we just got some assholes out there, but we don't got to worry about fucking. 0.99

02:50:48.000 We don't got to worry about no fucking things getting our flesh off and shit.

02:50:54.000 It's a few serial killers.

02:50:55.000 Yeah, a few serial killers. 0.51

02:50:58.000 Guys wearing wife beaters.

02:51:00.000 That's it.

02:51:00.000 I was just watching this video where they said the most popular job for serial killers is those long range truckers.

02:51:06.000 Makes sense.

02:51:07.000 Yeah.

02:51:08.000 I mean, you're on the road, you've got a lot of access to a lot of different people.

02:51:11.000 Yeah, and also you think you just keep it moving.

02:51:13.000 Yeah, keep it moving.

02:51:15.000 Before they even know what happened, you're gone.

02:51:17.000 Yeah.

02:51:19.000 There's a bunch of them that are linked potentially to long range truckers that they've never solved.

02:51:24.000 Really?

02:51:25.000 Yeah.

02:51:26.000 They don't catch a lot of those guys.

02:51:28.000 That's what's fucked up.

02:51:29.000 You want to think that life's like a movie where they catch them all and they don't get them in the end?

02:51:34.000 But random killers are some of the hardest to catch because they just show up, kill somebody, leave.

02:51:38.000 And there's no rhyme or reason to it.

02:51:40.000 They just wanted to kill somebody.

02:51:41.000 So there's no motive.

02:51:42.000 It's hard to tell.

02:51:44.000 And if they've done it and not gotten caught for a few years, if they're clever.

02:51:47.000 Like a lot of these guys, like the Zodiac Killer, he was brilliant.

02:51:50.000 He wrote things in code.

02:51:52.000 They had the.

02:51:53.000 I don't even know if they ever cracked all of it.

02:51:56.000 They still don't know who the fuck it was.

02:51:57.000 They did that movie.

02:51:58.000 Yeah, I saw that movie, right?

02:52:00.000 Yeah, they kind of made it like it was the Janata guy.

02:52:03.000 I don't think they know.

02:52:05.000 I mean, unless there's some new data, unless there's some new information, I think it's an unsolved mystery.

02:52:10.000 But he was obviously brilliant.

02:52:12.000 So you got a really smart guy who's just randomly killing people, and he's also taunting you with letters, leaving letters behind.

02:52:20.000 It's got to be a little more difficult now with all the cameras and shit.

02:52:23.000 What has John Dunn ever been up to?

02:52:25.000 Does he have an alibi?

02:52:26.000 Does he have an alibi from Guido Beach?

02:52:29.000 Was he in New York at that time?

02:52:30.000 Yeah.

02:52:33.000 The Dark Lord.

02:52:34.000 Trying out new techniques.

02:52:35.000 It's fucking great.

02:52:35.000 Yeah.

02:52:37.000 Yeah.

02:52:38.000 All right, boys.

02:52:39.000 Should we wrap this up?

02:52:40.000 Man.

02:52:41.000 Good times.

02:52:41.000 Oh, one more thing we should probably talk about.

02:52:44.000 Uh,.

02:52:45.000 The White House card.

02:52:46.000 Ooh.

02:52:47.000 Yeah.

02:52:47.000 You going?

02:52:49.000 Yeah, unless things get crazy between now and then.

02:52:52.000 But the idea of them fighting outside in Washington, D.C. in the middle of the summer, it's nice, humid, sunny, and heat.

02:53:00.000 It's crazy to me.

02:53:01.000 You ask someone to dehydrate themselves, to cut weight.

02:53:04.000 You know, I mean, think about Gaichi.

02:53:07.000 Gaichi's going to cut, he's got to cut to get to 55.

02:53:10.000 Ilya probably doesn't have to cut too much.

02:53:12.000 But you're fighting for the world title, and you're fighting outside.

02:53:16.000 That's.

02:53:17.000 The noontime has now been corrected, which is.

02:53:20.000 Hey, we get good weather.

02:53:22.000 So, the pay per view or the main card starts at 8 p.m. Eastern.

02:53:26.000 Hey, I was in the middle.

02:53:27.000 I was in Abu Dhabi when they did that.

02:53:29.000 That's a little better.

02:53:30.000 Yeah, but also, it can rain.

02:53:32.000 Yeah, it could easily rain.

02:53:34.000 There's going to be bugs.

02:53:35.000 Imagine getting lit up by mosquitoes while you're mounting a guy and you hear him and you hear him.

02:53:42.000 Will they put a tent up over the?

02:53:44.000 I don't know what they're going to do.

02:53:45.000 Dude, back in the day, they had King of Cage and it was like raining out and shit.

02:53:48.000 It was called Wetlanders.

02:53:49.000 Wetlanders.

02:53:51.000 Yeah.

02:53:51.000 It's a mess.

02:53:53.000 Fights outside are a mess.

02:53:54.000 It's a mess.

02:53:54.000 It's a terrible idea.

02:53:55.000 I hate it.

02:53:56.000 There was a couple inches of rain in that cage.

02:53:58.000 That was a crazy show.

02:54:00.000 If you're fighting in an elite world championship level, you should be fighting in a controlled environment.

02:54:04.000 Period.

02:54:05.000 It's already a problem enough to fight, to deal with the way it is.

02:54:05.000 Right.

02:54:08.000 Yeah, why cause the extra factors?

02:54:09.000 Yeah, and all these different variables.

02:54:12.000 You might not get the best fighter.

02:54:14.000 Right.

02:54:15.000 And it also might severely impair someone who's gone through a big weight cut.

02:54:19.000 If it's really hot out, I don't know what it's going to be like, but we looked it up.

02:54:23.000 Wasn't it last year?

02:54:24.000 At that same date, I think that was 2024, but still, it's like.

02:54:29.000 It was like 100 degrees there.

02:54:29.000 It was what?

02:54:31.000 100, yeah, yeah.

02:54:32.000 Dude, I live it there.

02:54:33.000 I live in Baltimore.

02:54:35.000 It'll be hot and humid.

02:54:37.000 Everybody's dealing with the same thing, though, so it's not like somebody's got something different to do.

02:54:41.000 Right, but it's not fair.

02:54:43.000 Because people deal with them differently.

02:54:44.000 If you're having world championship fights where you're going to decide who's the best in the world, it should be in a controlled environment.

02:54:52.000 Yeah.

02:54:53.000 You know?

02:54:54.000 The White House, baby.

02:54:56.000 It's still the fuck.

02:54:57.000 We were not legal in New York when I was fighting.

02:55:00.000 And now we're at the fucking White House.

02:55:01.000 It's crazy.

02:55:02.000 It's crazy that they're doing it.

02:55:02.000 That is wild.

02:55:04.000 I support all crazy things.

02:55:07.000 I'm going too.

02:55:08.000 Yeah, we have to.

02:55:09.000 Yeah, I just, yeah.

02:55:09.000 You have to.

02:55:10.000 I just, yeah, I just got the call for clearance.

02:55:10.000 It's your job.

02:55:13.000 I'm going.

02:55:15.000 I'll be watching on Paramount Plus.

02:55:18.000 Yeah.

02:55:19.000 Jimmy wanted to go.

02:55:20.000 He said, can we go?

02:55:21.000 I'm like, oh.

02:55:23.000 I'm like, how many people are going to be outside in the audience?

02:55:26.000 That's the question.

02:55:27.000 I don't know.

02:55:27.000 Like, how many people are going to be around things?

02:55:30.000 Well, apparently, I think on Saturday's broadcast, they're going to announce how it's going to look.

02:55:37.000 So, that's part of the allure for watching Saturday shows.

02:55:42.000 They're going to announce how it's supposed to look.

02:55:45.000 It's exciting, though.

02:55:46.000 You got to say, fuck it.

02:55:48.000 It's crazy.

02:55:49.000 It's definitely crazy.

02:55:50.000 I mean, it's a cool thing.

02:55:51.000 Only this president would do it.

02:55:54.000 This card, you're saying?

02:55:54.000 Yeah.

02:55:55.000 This card coming up?

02:55:55.000 Yeah, Saturdays?

02:55:56.000 Oh, yeah, Saturdays is a very good card.

02:55:58.000 I'm telling you, the Mirza Kanoff and Paulo Costa ones, the one that I got my eye on, I'm like, that could be very interesting.

02:56:04.000 It'd be very interesting.

02:56:05.000 Because Paulo's a big fucking middleweight.

02:56:08.000 It might do him good later in his career to go up to light heavyweight.

02:56:11.000 And Mirza Kanoff's not a big light heavyweight.

02:56:11.000 I think so.

02:56:14.000 He's only 5'10.

02:56:14.000 No, he's not.

02:56:15.000 Yeah, he's short.

02:56:16.000 Oh, he's got weight to cut, too.

02:56:16.000 Yeah.

02:56:18.000 I mean, he's not exactly.

02:56:20.000 No.

02:56:20.000 He ain't.

02:56:21.000 No, no, no.

02:56:22.000 He definitely carries much more body fat on him.

02:56:22.000 Not even close.

02:56:24.000 Who has he fought?

02:56:26.000 That's close.

02:56:27.000 Has he fought anybody?

02:56:28.000 Rocket, stopped Rocket's first round of his last fight.

02:56:31.000 That's it.

02:56:32.000 But he hasn't, it's been hard for him to get fights.

02:56:35.000 They made Dana a little taller there.

02:56:37.000 Yeah, but they put like an extra in this, and it's the only thing he said would stop the fight.

02:56:42.000 Yeah, well, that could be it.

02:56:44.000 Yeah, that would suck.

02:56:45.000 Imagine if someone died from getting hit by lightning.

02:56:48.000 Yeah, that would be.

02:56:49.000 They raise their hand up at the end of the fight and they get hit by lightning.

02:56:53.000 That'd be a bad look for the UFC, I think.

02:56:55.000 I just don't.

02:56:56.000 Bruce Buffett gets it.

02:56:57.000 I like the idea on paper, but the fact that I'm going to be there.

02:57:01.000 Sequin jacket attracted the lights.

02:57:03.000 Jesus Christ, this is going to be crazy.

02:57:06.000 People are probably going to protest it.

02:57:08.000 It's going to be nuts.

02:57:09.000 Yeah.

02:57:09.000 There's going to be a lot of protesters out there.

02:57:11.000 For sure.

02:57:12.000 All this stuff was well going on in the White House.

02:57:13.000 It might be the wrong place to come and protest because it's going to be a lot of.

02:57:17.000 Pro Trump people in that audience, it could be a mess.

02:57:21.000 Well, that's what they like.

02:57:23.000 You know, a lot of people that are running this world like when there's fights and chaos.

02:57:26.000 Oh, that's a fact.

02:57:27.000 They like rioting and they'll connect it to Trump and they'll spin it and connect it to whatever the fuck they want to.

02:57:34.000 I just want to see some good fights.

02:57:36.000 Cyril Gahn and Pereira is a very good fight.

02:57:38.000 Yeah, it's an interesting fight.

02:57:40.000 Very interesting fight.

02:57:41.000 Just because of Gahn poking everybody in their eyes, I'd be happy to see him lose.

02:57:45.000 But he's, I mean, the size is real and And he's got legit skills.

02:57:49.000 Legit skills.

02:57:51.000 That tie to Ivasa fight.

02:57:52.000 Remember those combinations he was hitting tie with?

02:57:54.000 Acting skills also KO on Netflix.

02:57:58.000 Setting up the South Lawn will begin one month out compared to a few days out in Normal Arena.

02:58:02.000 Dana and Donald will have 200 tickets each to assign to who they want.

02:58:06.000 84 from each will be chosen for a VIP event inside the White House prior to the fights.

02:58:11.000 Most of the rest of the tickets will go to military personnel.

02:58:14.000 The event will have custom fight kits for all fighters on the card.

02:58:18.000 And then more to come Saturday with.

02:58:18.000 Wow.

02:58:20.000 More to come Saturday.

02:58:21.000 So there'll probably be an announcement at the UFC that we'll have to talk about.

02:58:26.000 Should be interesting.

02:58:27.000 Nobody's given Justin a chance here.

02:58:29.000 Justin's a fucking animal, dude.

02:58:30.000 I mean, I love.

02:58:31.000 And look how technical he fought when he had to fight Faziv.

02:58:34.000 Faziv.

02:58:35.000 And he's a very technical fighter.

02:58:35.000 Yeah.

02:58:37.000 Yeah, if you go by the way he fought Patty, he kind of just walked Patty down.

02:58:41.000 He just like was just like, I'm going to create chaos.

02:58:43.000 You also got to kind of give Patty a little break where he did get poked in the fucking eye early.

02:58:47.000 True.

02:58:48.000 True.

02:58:49.000 Did he get more ones?

02:58:50.000 I mean, not.

02:58:51.000 I think too.

02:58:52.000 Gagey fought with staff.

02:58:54.000 Did he?

02:58:54.000 Pretty much everybody thought so.

02:58:56.000 I mean, that thing on his neck.

02:58:57.000 Yeah.

02:58:57.000 He said it wasn't.

02:58:58.000 And he's seen in grown hair.

02:58:59.000 I mean, he can say, you know, he's not going to tell everybody he's got staff before the fight.

02:59:03.000 He could say it after the fight.

02:59:04.000 He looked good, though.

02:59:04.000 You know?

02:59:05.000 He's a fucking animal, too.

02:59:07.000 And the only reason I think that is he doesn't really get tired and he seemed like he's mentally so tough he just pushed through the tired, but you could see he was fatigued at the end of that fight.

02:59:17.000 Well, he's a complicated riddle on the feet, too.

02:59:20.000 He's a good stand up fighter, man.

02:59:22.000 I mean, when he knocked out, Dustin with that head kick.

02:59:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:59:25.000 I forgot about that.

02:59:27.000 He's fucking good.

02:59:28.000 He's cracked.

02:59:28.000 I'm a Gagey fan.

02:59:29.000 Love to see him do it.

02:59:31.000 In the early days, man, he was one of the wildest guys to watch ever.

02:59:34.000 That Michael Johnson fight was mad.

02:59:36.000 Just madness.

02:59:37.000 It was a pretty crazy fight.

02:59:38.000 He just goes, let's jump off the cliff together.

02:59:42.000 They did a Thelma and Louise there.

02:59:45.000 I mean, that's what he does in those fights, man.

02:59:47.000 He was one of the best early in his career at throwing leg kicks from really close to the cliff.

02:59:52.000 So close.

02:59:52.000 Yeah.

02:59:54.000 He got away from that.

02:59:55.000 I wonder why he got away from that.

02:59:56.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:59:57.000 Could be injured shins.

02:59:59.000 You know, it could be knocked a lot of guys out with his hands.

03:00:01.000 Just wanted to do that for him.

03:00:03.000 I mean, I thought that was one of his greatest weapons is being so close to just dig right in.

03:00:09.000 Like a weird flexibility of the hips to be able to do that and generate power from in close.

03:00:15.000 With what?

03:00:16.000 The right hand or the kick?

03:00:17.000 The kick.

03:00:18.000 Yeah, the kick.

03:00:18.000 The kick.

03:00:19.000 He does it in a collar tie.

03:00:20.000 It'll kick you. 1.00

03:00:21.000 Nuts. 0.97

03:00:22.000 And with power.

03:00:23.000 Yeah.

03:00:23.000 It definitely has a chance.

03:00:24.000 I mean, you know, I mean, people will just.

03:00:27.000 Kind of not even giving him a shot.

03:00:29.000 I'm like, well, that's how good Ilya is.

03:00:31.000 Yeah, no, I get it.

03:00:33.000 He gets hit a lot, and they're just putting the equation together.

03:00:37.000 Ilya, man.

03:00:38.000 Ilya's got that one punch.

03:00:40.000 It's ferocious.

03:00:41.000 And look at the guys he's done it to.

03:00:42.000 You know, Volkanovsky, Charles, Max.

03:00:48.000 In a row.

03:00:49.000 In a row.

03:00:50.000 Ryan Hall.

03:00:51.000 Three KOs in a row against world champions.

03:00:54.000 That's crazy.

03:00:55.000 Guys who are not used to getting put.

03:00:57.000 Yeah.

03:00:57.000 He's a leader.

03:00:58.000 You know, not like, but, you know, think about how durable Charles is.

03:01:02.000 For him, just one shot like that, take him out, that's crazy.

03:01:05.000 That's crazy.

03:01:06.000 For Max.

03:01:06.000 I mean, Max did well in the first round.

03:01:08.000 He did.

03:01:09.000 But until he got hit, he'd never been knocked out.

03:01:12.000 He's a different dude.

03:01:14.000 You know, there's levels that this game achieves as people get better and better and better and watch everyone around them.

03:01:18.000 And Illy is like, this is the next highest level.

03:01:21.000 Right.

03:01:22.000 You know?

03:01:23.000 Now everybody's shooting for that.

03:01:24.000 Boys, a lot of fun.

03:01:26.000 Good time.

03:01:27.000 We're doing this.

03:01:27.000 I love when we do this.

03:01:28.000 It's so fun.

03:01:29.000 This is my favorite podcast.

03:01:30.000 Hey.

03:01:31.000 I love coming out here.

03:01:32.000 It's such a good time.

03:01:34.000 And also, I need to find out what's going on in the nerd world.

03:01:37.000 If you want to find out what's going on in the nerd world, Matt Serra Channel on YouTube.

03:01:43.000 I talk all about that geek shit.

03:01:45.000 That's it.

03:01:45.000 Sometimes I play VR and I do movie reactions where it's like the Mystery Science Theater where I talk to this guy.

03:01:51.000 Talk shit.

03:01:51.000 Yeah.

03:01:52.000 I talk during a movie a lot.

03:01:54.000 Like, Dean, what do you got going on?

03:01:56.000 My movie, Flowers, short film coming out.

03:01:59.000 And I got a new show on Paramount Plus called Deep Waters with Jorge Mazvidalco.

03:02:04.000 Chris Wyman and Dustin Poirier.

03:02:05.000 That starts next Monday.

03:02:07.000 That's the right name.

03:02:07.000 Every Monday.

03:02:09.000 I like the name.

03:02:10.000 Steve Waters coming out.

03:02:12.000 And we're still doing Ground Control.

03:02:12.000 Yep.

03:02:14.000 Just opened a school in Sykesville.

03:02:16.000 Dustin Poirier's actually coming out there in the spot next door to a stratosphere on May 16th.

03:02:23.000 Shogun still going.

03:02:25.000 So groundcontrolusa.com, shogunfights.com, and at Be More MMA.

03:02:30.000 Look at you, bro.

03:02:31.000 Promoter, coach, gym owner.

03:02:33.000 Hustling, hustling.

03:02:34.000 All right. 0.96

03:02:34.000 Hustling. 0.96

03:02:35.000 Thank you.

03:02:36.000 Lots of fun.

03:02:36.000 Thank you guys.

03:02:37.000 Always fun.

03:02:37.000 Bye, everybody.

03:02:38.000 Bye, guys.

The Joe Rogan Experience - April 10, 2026

JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck

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