The John-Henry Westen Show - April 26, 2021


After mystical experience, priest announces Communion only on the tongue and kneeling


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In February, a priest was caught on video having a mystical experience during Mass. After which he went straight to the pulpit to announce that from that moment on, Holy Communion at the parish would only be given to those who were kneeling and on the tongue.

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00:00:00.000 In February, a priest was caught on video having a mystical experience during Mass,
00:00:06.420 after which he went straight to the pulpit to announce that from that moment on,
00:00:10.760 Holy Communion at the parish would only be given to those who are kneeling and on the tongue. 0.52
00:00:15.880 A video which has gone viral with nearly two million views captured the priest bowing down,
00:00:21.520 practically doubling over, shaking and crying.
00:00:23.900 He was bowed down for about 20 seconds, which of course is a long time during Mass while everyone's waiting.
00:00:30.000 We're going to show you that clip and exactly what he said,
00:00:32.820 but also I got clarification on what such a declaration is all about
00:00:36.840 from well-known theologian and liturgical expert Dr. Peter Kwasniewski,
00:00:41.180 so that we can unpack this properly.
00:00:43.400 Stay tuned.
00:01:00.000 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:01:05.020 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:10.040 On February 7th, 2021, at the conclusion of the 11 a.m. Sunday Mass,
00:01:16.160 Fr. Freddy Leonardo Herrera Fuentes,
00:01:19.580 the pastor of the Immaculate Heart of Mary Parish in Bogota, Colombia,
00:01:24.320 told parishioners that, and I quote,
00:01:26.580 from this moment in our parish,
00:01:29.100 it's only going to be possible to receive Holy Communion on the tongue and kneeling down, end quote.
00:01:34.700 He said this after bowing down, as I said,
00:01:37.760 practically doubling over, shaking and sniffing, obviously weeping.
00:01:41.220 He was bowed down for about 20 seconds, which I won't show in this clip,
00:01:45.380 but the Spanish language video of the Mass went viral.
00:01:48.720 Two million views.
00:01:50.420 A priest who goes by the name of Miles Marie, which means the Soldier of Mary.
00:01:55.680 He produced an English voiceover version of the video,
00:01:59.580 and he gave me permission to use it.
00:02:02.240 So, here is the video with thanks to Fr. Miles Marie.
00:02:06.440 Watch.
00:02:09.220 Recently on a lot of Spanish Catholic YouTube channels,
00:02:13.140 there have been copies of this video going around,
00:02:15.520 so I thought I would share the video giving a dubbing over of the Spanish,
00:02:20.880 putting it into an English translation,
00:02:23.200 about a priest who breaks down in tears during the middle of Mass
00:02:27.180 because of some kind of revelation that he's experienced.
00:02:31.260 I thank you for your participation in this Holy Mass.
00:02:49.860 Let us continue united in prayer.
00:02:53.000 There are some things that happen at times which can't be explained.
00:03:00.600 Sometimes you need to try.
00:03:03.400 What happens is that
00:03:05.180 it hurts a lot when the Lord allows us to share
00:03:10.880 or see certain things.
00:03:13.520 from this moment
00:03:29.840 in our parish
00:03:32.460 it's only going to be possible
00:03:37.240 to receive Holy Communion
00:03:39.080 on the tongue
00:03:39.900 and kneeling down.
00:03:42.600 It can't be any other way.
00:03:58.020 Christ is alive.
00:03:59.300 He is among us.
00:04:04.480 And it hurts him so much.
00:04:08.000 Not only when we don't receive Holy Communion
00:04:10.980 because that in itself hurts him
00:04:13.440 and it's really sad for him.
00:04:16.560 But also when we receive him
00:04:18.960 not even consciously aware
00:04:21.240 of who we're receiving.
00:04:23.040 And when we receive him
00:04:25.920 as if we were receiving
00:04:28.180 any old piece of food
00:04:30.800 as if we were not really believing in his presence.
00:04:37.320 He's here.
00:04:38.620 He's truly alive.
00:04:41.220 I've always been saying
00:04:42.460 if you receive in this way
00:04:44.100 be really careful.
00:04:45.780 The people aren't doing this.
00:04:48.040 Look, even a tiny particle
00:04:49.980 the most tiniest.
00:04:52.600 He's there.
00:04:53.740 Completely.
00:04:55.160 For that reason
00:04:56.080 we always need to have
00:04:57.880 the greatest care.
00:04:59.000 To get a better handle
00:05:02.000 on what's going on here
00:05:03.240 and the controversial nature
00:05:04.500 of what happened
00:05:05.060 I spoke with
00:05:06.640 Thomistic theologian
00:05:07.840 and liturgical scholar
00:05:09.060 Dr. Peter Kwasniewski
00:05:10.620 about the incident.
00:05:11.940 In an earlier show
00:05:13.180 I interviewed Dr. Kwasniewski
00:05:14.700 about the need
00:05:15.300 to receive our Lord
00:05:16.140 in the most reverent way
00:05:17.180 kneeling and on the tongue.
00:05:19.040 Dr. Kwasniewski
00:05:20.060 told me about this incident
00:05:21.740 that there is actually
00:05:22.740 a problem with a priest
00:05:23.920 at a Novus Ordo parish
00:05:25.240 refusing Holy Communion
00:05:26.680 to those who wish
00:05:27.680 to receive it on the hand
00:05:28.780 especially in a diocese
00:05:30.580 or in a diocese
00:05:31.760 where it's permitted.
00:05:32.800 He said and I quote
00:05:33.760 almost any canon lawyer
00:05:35.940 and certainly any bishop
00:05:36.980 would say no
00:05:38.380 he cannot refuse
00:05:39.460 because the church's discipline
00:05:40.760 and Dr. Kwasniewski
00:05:42.800 adds in brackets
00:05:43.540 however flawed it may be
00:05:45.220 expressly allows for this
00:05:47.500 end quote.
00:05:48.800 So I asked Dr. Kwasniewski
00:05:50.580 what would happen
00:05:51.740 in the case
00:05:52.400 where a priest
00:05:53.080 is so convinced
00:05:54.000 of the wrongness
00:05:54.840 of Holy Communion
00:05:55.400 in the hand
00:05:55.900 that he feels
00:05:56.680 he cannot in conscience
00:05:58.100 give communion in the hand
00:05:59.580 even when the faithful
00:06:00.600 demand it.
00:06:02.080 Dr. Kwasniewski said
00:06:03.400 and I quote
00:06:03.900 it's always understood
00:06:05.980 that if one's conscience
00:06:08.300 says that a proposed
00:06:10.000 course of action
00:06:10.680 is sinful
00:06:11.180 or risks committing sin
00:06:12.560 or being a near occasion
00:06:14.640 of sin
00:06:15.080 one must refrain from it
00:06:17.900 end quote.
00:06:18.920 He added however
00:06:20.120 that a priest
00:06:21.240 making such a decision
00:06:22.280 would likely get suspended
00:06:23.520 by his bishop.
00:06:24.260 In fact Dr. Kwasniewski
00:06:25.720 told me that he knows
00:06:26.800 several priests
00:06:27.580 who have been suspended
00:06:28.940 over this.
00:06:31.020 I too know of priests
00:06:32.540 who are tortured
00:06:33.520 in conscience
00:06:34.180 about having to administer
00:06:35.220 Holy Communion
00:06:35.880 in so unworthy a manner.
00:06:37.700 In fact my own father
00:06:38.860 Henry Weston
00:06:39.560 was an ordained deacon
00:06:40.880 in the Maronite rite
00:06:41.940 in his later life.
00:06:43.460 He would never administer
00:06:44.620 Holy Communion
00:06:45.260 in hand
00:06:45.920 and so at the parish
00:06:47.260 where he served
00:06:48.020 the priests would announce
00:06:49.500 that those wishing
00:06:50.100 to receive communion
00:06:50.900 on the hand
00:06:51.400 should not be on the side
00:06:53.060 where Deacon Weston
00:06:53.980 was distributing
00:06:54.740 Holy Communion.
00:06:56.500 For me the matter
00:06:57.580 is quite clear.
00:06:58.900 Some of you may recall
00:06:59.920 that one of my previous shows
00:07:01.400 I covered the issue
00:07:02.440 with a video called
00:07:04.140 Five Reasons
00:07:04.980 Why Catholics 1.00
00:07:05.920 Should Only Receive
00:07:06.740 Holy Communion
00:07:07.340 on the Tongue.
00:07:09.060 And I encourage you
00:07:09.860 to watch that
00:07:10.360 if you're interested
00:07:10.980 but here is
00:07:12.900 the one point
00:07:14.040 from that
00:07:14.600 which for me
00:07:15.380 really says it all.
00:07:16.400 But the biblical account
00:07:19.720 that speaks to this subject
00:07:21.340 most directly for me
00:07:22.800 is what happened
00:07:23.740 with the Ark of the Covenant.
00:07:25.920 You can read the account
00:07:27.240 both in 2 Samuel 6, 1-7
00:07:29.580 and 1 Chronicles 13, 9-12.
00:07:32.280 The Ark of the Covenant
00:07:33.180 was designed by God
00:07:34.720 and built
00:07:35.260 to the Lord's specifications.
00:07:37.040 It contained the manna,
00:07:38.120 the staff of Moses
00:07:38.960 and the tablets
00:07:39.800 of the Ten Commandments.
00:07:41.260 It was also so sacred
00:07:43.040 that it was never allowed
00:07:44.680 to be touched
00:07:45.500 except by certain Levites,
00:07:47.480 the sort of priests
00:07:48.460 of their time.
00:07:49.980 The reservation
00:07:50.940 of touching the Ark
00:07:52.340 to priests only
00:07:53.380 was potently
00:07:55.120 or powerfully reinforced
00:07:56.620 when a layman
00:07:57.860 whose name was Uzzah
00:07:59.180 who was transporting
00:08:00.880 the Ark
00:08:01.320 at the request
00:08:02.200 of King David
00:08:02.920 was struck dead
00:08:04.200 by God
00:08:05.000 for touching the Ark.
00:08:07.440 Now get this,
00:08:08.700 Uzzah was trying 1.00
00:08:09.560 to do the right thing.
00:08:10.780 He was doing
00:08:11.580 what he thought
00:08:12.280 was right
00:08:12.800 to save the Ark.
00:08:13.760 You see,
00:08:14.040 while he and his brother
00:08:16.060 were transporting
00:08:17.120 the Ark
00:08:17.660 in a cart
00:08:18.540 pulled by oxen,
00:08:20.280 along the journey
00:08:21.180 the Ark
00:08:22.400 got tilted
00:08:23.320 or, you know,
00:08:24.420 the oxen stumbled
00:08:25.280 and it was tilting.
00:08:26.500 So Uzzah used his hand 1.00
00:08:28.060 to steady the Ark
00:08:29.140 and for that
00:08:30.660 was struck dead
00:08:31.700 by the Lord.
00:08:32.660 The scripture explains
00:08:33.840 that the Lord
00:08:34.500 struck him down
00:08:35.320 because Uzzah 1.00
00:08:36.120 was not to touch
00:08:37.180 the Ark.
00:08:38.420 It's actually
00:08:39.100 very much the same
00:08:40.140 in our time
00:08:40.740 when many are trying
00:08:42.140 to do what they think
00:08:42.920 is right
00:08:43.460 for the coronavirus
00:08:45.140 by receiving
00:08:46.000 on the hand.
00:08:47.100 Yet with the Ark
00:08:48.260 it was not
00:08:49.140 the right thing
00:08:49.740 to do
00:08:50.100 even though
00:08:51.140 it is what
00:08:52.300 seemed expedient.
00:08:53.620 It was done
00:08:54.160 for good intent
00:08:54.940 to save the Ark
00:08:55.940 from harm
00:08:56.480 just as many
00:08:58.120 are receiving
00:08:58.900 on the hand today
00:08:59.900 with good intent
00:09:00.940 to save their
00:09:02.240 brothers and sisters
00:09:03.060 in Christ
00:09:03.580 from possible
00:09:04.220 coronavirus infection
00:09:05.320 or to save
00:09:06.620 the Church
00:09:07.180 her freedom
00:09:08.100 to be able
00:09:08.620 to distribute
00:09:09.200 Holy Communion
00:09:10.000 at all.
00:09:11.660 But nevertheless
00:09:12.620 touching the Ark
00:09:14.340 was the wrong
00:09:15.300 thing to do.
00:09:16.340 The Lord's decision
00:09:17.480 here actually
00:09:18.180 perplexed David
00:09:19.960 as you can read
00:09:20.560 in the scriptures
00:09:21.000 and after
00:09:22.140 this incident
00:09:23.460 David was afraid
00:09:24.360 to bring the Ark
00:09:25.060 of the Lord
00:09:25.480 to himself.
00:09:27.860 And yet
00:09:28.640 what was the Ark
00:09:29.820 of the Covenant
00:09:30.280 compared to our Lord
00:09:31.900 himself in the Eucharist?
00:09:33.240 The Ark was revered
00:09:34.600 in the temple
00:09:35.120 it was carried
00:09:35.700 in ceremony
00:09:36.300 it was considered
00:09:37.080 holy
00:09:37.480 and yet
00:09:38.540 it was only
00:09:39.100 the footstool
00:09:39.940 of God.
00:09:41.360 His presence
00:09:42.140 was there
00:09:42.720 veiled
00:09:43.260 and prefiguring
00:09:44.940 of his real
00:09:45.960 presence
00:09:46.420 in the person
00:09:47.620 of our Lord
00:09:48.000 Jesus Christ
00:09:48.740 whom we receive
00:09:50.240 in Holy Communion.
00:09:52.940 The matter
00:09:53.820 of the proper way
00:09:54.680 to receive our Lord
00:09:55.680 is so important
00:09:56.780 that Voice of the Family
00:09:58.020 did a whole conference
00:09:59.160 on this subject
00:09:59.820 in July 2020.
00:10:01.660 As part of that conference
00:10:03.000 Catholic veteran
00:10:04.520 pro-life activists
00:10:05.460 from across the world
00:10:06.620 joined together
00:10:07.560 in unison
00:10:08.200 to declare
00:10:09.120 that they would
00:10:09.760 only receive
00:10:10.500 Holy Communion
00:10:11.300 on the tongue
00:10:12.220 while kneeling
00:10:13.100 out of reverence
00:10:14.160 to our Lord
00:10:14.920 and Savior
00:10:15.660 Jesus Christ.
00:10:17.200 The joint declaration
00:10:18.600 featured well-known
00:10:19.760 Catholic pro-life leaders
00:10:20.920 such as
00:10:21.860 Dr. Gianna Mulla
00:10:23.280 the daughter of
00:10:24.320 St. Gianna Bretta Mulla
00:10:25.860 life site Steve Jelcevac
00:10:27.800 pro-life warrior
00:10:28.880 Abby Johnson
00:10:29.700 CFAM president
00:10:30.720 Austin Ruse
00:10:31.520 the Pachamama destroyer
00:10:33.180 Alexander Chuguel
00:10:34.080 Michael Matt
00:10:35.280 from The Remnant
00:10:36.060 also Virginia
00:10:37.500 Corenunciante
00:10:38.420 the head of the
00:10:39.420 March for Life
00:10:39.980 in Italy
00:10:40.340 and more.
00:10:41.680 Have a look.
00:10:44.100 This is Abby Johnson
00:10:45.380 My name is Steve Jelcevac
00:10:46.940 My name is Reggie
00:10:48.140 Little John
00:10:49.040 I'm John Henry Weston
00:10:50.360 My name is
00:10:51.080 Alexander Chuguel
00:10:52.000 This is Maria Matisse
00:10:53.380 of Voice of the Family
00:10:54.260 My name is Michael Matt
00:10:55.880 I'm the editor
00:10:56.560 of The Remnant Newspaper
00:10:57.560 and out of the love
00:10:58.820 and reverence
00:10:59.600 due to our Lord
00:11:00.780 I never receive
00:11:01.960 Holy Communion
00:11:02.680 in my hands
00:11:03.540 I never receive
00:11:26.120 Holy Communion
00:11:27.080 in my hand
00:11:28.520 I never receive
00:11:30.740 Holy Communion
00:11:31.800 in my hand
00:11:32.900 Out of the love
00:11:35.160 and reverence
00:11:35.960 due to our Lord
00:11:36.900 I only receive
00:11:38.400 Holy Communion
00:11:39.100 kneeling and on the tongue
00:11:40.260 I always receive
00:11:41.980 Holy Communion
00:11:42.820 kneeling and on the tongue
00:11:44.280 I receive communion
00:11:46.160 kneeling and on the tongue
00:11:47.500 Out of love
00:11:48.740 and reverence
00:11:49.860 for our Lord
00:11:50.580 I only receive
00:11:52.620 Holy Communion
00:11:53.640 kneeling
00:11:54.620 and on the tongue
00:11:56.040 Out of the love
00:11:57.700 and reverence
00:11:58.340 due to our Lord
00:11:59.200 I never receive
00:12:00.340 Holy Communion
00:12:01.160 in my hand
00:12:02.000 I receive communion
00:12:03.740 in the traditional manner
00:12:05.120 of almost 2,000 years
00:12:06.480 kneeling
00:12:07.320 and on the tongue
00:12:08.420 Out of the love
00:12:10.360 and reverence
00:12:10.940 due to our Lord
00:12:11.940 I never receive
00:12:13.420 Holy Communion
00:12:14.360 on my hand
00:12:15.360 I always receive
00:12:17.580 communion
00:12:18.100 kneeling and on the tongue
00:12:19.580 I always receive
00:12:21.860 communion on the tongue
00:12:23.220 I always receive
00:12:24.540 Holy Communion
00:12:25.260 kneeling and on the tongue
00:12:26.560 I only receive
00:12:28.680 Holy Communion
00:12:29.560 kneeling and on the tongue
00:12:31.860 I never receive
00:12:33.080 Holy Communion
00:12:33.800 in my hand
00:12:34.540 Pro-lifers work 0.72
00:12:36.100 to have the life
00:12:36.900 of the child hidden in the womb recognized.
00:12:39.260 Let's all work together to have the life of Jesus
00:12:41.860 hidden in the Blessed Sacrament recognized.
00:12:44.240 Out of the love and reverence due to our Lord
00:12:46.180 in the Holy Eucharist,
00:12:47.440 please commit to receiving Him worthily,
00:12:49.600 kneeling and on the tongue.
00:12:53.040 With so much irreverence for our Lord
00:12:55.600 in the Blessed Sacrament today,
00:12:57.340 I would beg you to consider making the sacrifice
00:13:00.540 of receiving Jesus worthily,
00:13:02.820 kneeling and on the tongue out of love for Him.
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