The John-Henry Westen Show - February 27, 2026


Archbishop FIRES Trad Catholic after SPEAKING OUT on Zionism


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Joe Anders, a young man who worked for the Archdiocese of Detroit and was promptly fired after he went on social media and on a show and talked about the case of Carrie Prejean Buller. Now, remember, Carrie, was on our show just the other day defending the Catholic position on Zionism at the Trump Religious Freedom Committee, and then somehow makes a comment from a Catholic perspective and gets removed.

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00:00:00.000 We're being told that this is the pastoral listening church, as long as you're, you know, 0.80
00:00:05.260 left-wing climate change activist or an immigration activist or a active sodomite. 0.53
00:00:12.960 Well, my friends, welcome to the John Henry Weston Show. We've got with us a young man
00:00:16.920 who worked for the Archdiocese of Detroit and was promptly fired after he went on social media
00:00:23.800 and on a show, in fact, and talked about the case of Carrie Prejean Buller.
00:00:30.220 Now, remember, Carrie Buller was on our show just the other day. 1.00
00:00:34.240 She gave that astounding defense of the Catholic position on Zionism at the Trump Religious Freedom Committee
00:00:42.700 and, sure enough, was removed from that.
00:00:47.140 Joe then somehow makes comment, again, from a Catholic perspective and gets removed.
00:00:51.920 Joe Anders, welcome to the program.
00:00:53.000 Thank you so much for having me, John Henry.
00:00:55.160 And again, I am very thankful to LifeSite team for helping make this story public,
00:01:01.440 letting people know, letting Catholics know what's going on right now with not only my family,
00:01:07.240 but just the church in general, where certain ideas are kind of stamped down because they're bad PR,
00:01:14.780 even though they are authentically Catholic.
00:01:16.720 Amen. Let's get into all that in a second.
00:01:18.800 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:01:20.700 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:25.520 Tell us, if you will, from the beginning, what exactly happened?
00:01:29.140 So, I took a week's vacation to spend some time with my friend Tim Gordon out in Mississippi.
00:01:36.880 You know, we, obviously, he does his show rules for retrogrades, and we were sitting around watching the Olympics.
00:01:43.120 You know, we were having fun watching curling, and curling's always just a great time.
00:01:48.280 I love watching curling on the Olympics.
00:01:50.760 And then we were looking at our phones, and we saw, you know, Carrie Prejean Bowler just lighting up the Religious Liberty Commission 0.57
00:01:59.760 and spitting facts, Catholic teaching, you know, things that we've said a lot in the past.
00:02:07.840 So, Tim's like, we gotta go do an episode on this.
00:02:11.180 And he's like, you're here, you can just sit right next to me, just jump on the rules for retrograde set,
00:02:15.640 and we're gonna defend what she's saying, because it's true.
00:02:20.080 And ultimately, our conclusion in the show was that you can't be a Catholic 0.72
00:02:26.180 and assent to the tenets of Zionism as defined by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance and the American Jewish Congress.
00:02:33.980 For a lot of people, they're gonna wonder, what in the world are you even talking about?
00:02:38.540 Go through the positions on both sides.
00:02:42.160 The one side of the aisle, I think, is a lot of these people.
00:02:45.420 We would, something Catholics would call heresy. 0.97
00:02:47.380 There's this belief, and I think that the sloganeering that the Zionism and Israel lobby have done 0.66
00:02:54.220 through the past few decades, I think, best sums it up.
00:02:58.080 The first one is that Jews have a right to a homeland.
00:03:02.080 A right. A right. That's a very specific term.
00:03:04.700 That means an entitlement.
00:03:06.200 They have a right to a homeland.
00:03:07.960 And number two, Israel has a right to exist.
00:03:10.820 And then the third proposition, and I think this is perhaps the most succinct of it all,
00:03:15.200 is anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
00:03:16.960 And this is what you would have heard on the Religious Liberty Commission.
00:03:19.840 They're saying that if you don't assent to both of those propositions, 0.93
00:03:23.440 that you are an anti-Semite, meaning you hate Jewish people. 0.83
00:03:28.020 I don't know about you, John Henry. 0.94
00:03:29.560 I don't hate any Jewish people.
00:03:31.060 In fact, I wish the greatest happiness and joy upon them that they could ever possibly endure.
00:03:35.940 I'm talking about true spiritual joy, as Thomas Aquinas would put it.
00:03:39.580 I want them to go to heaven.
00:03:40.960 I want them to be baptized.
00:03:42.340 And I want the Holy Spirit to reside in every Jewish person on earth.
00:03:45.480 Yeah, to become, as Mother Miriam herself, a former Jew, said, a completed Jew, 0.70
00:03:51.260 and to accept the Holy Roman Catholic faith.
00:03:54.580 It's interesting.
00:03:55.340 You know, she did tell me the greatest form of anti-Semitism is to keep Jesus from the Jews.
00:04:01.080 This is what we're called to believe as Catholics.
00:04:03.960 Now, if you were to accept the propositions of the slogans that they're telling you that you have to assent to,
00:04:09.720 you're kind of forced into a very specific position.
00:04:13.060 And that specific position that you're forced into is that, well, by somehow,
00:04:17.780 Jews, through their blood, have a right to the land of Israel.
00:04:21.880 And not just the land of Israel, but the land of Israel as outlined in the Bible.
00:04:26.720 Their, quote-unquote, ancestral homeland.
00:04:30.220 Now, we all know that's not just the Israel that we know today. 0.66
00:04:34.080 It's parts of Lebanon.
00:04:35.460 It's parts of Iraq.
00:04:36.820 It's parts of Syria and Jordan and all these other parts of the world.
00:04:40.940 Now, we as Catholics believe that existing nations do have some level of right to their own sovereignty right now.
00:04:46.680 We can't say that Israelis, because, you know, the Bible 3,000 years ago assented this land to these people. 0.99
00:04:53.440 We don't believe that that covenant is still in existence.
00:04:56.480 We believe that God granted them that covenant.
00:04:59.360 We believe that the church is the new Israel, that Jesus Christ fulfilled the old covenant on the cross.
00:05:04.940 When we think of Israel in the Old Testament, we see it as a foreshadowing of the Catholic Church.
00:05:11.060 When we think of the chosen people, the Jews, we look at the baptized today.
00:05:16.260 Baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
00:05:19.160 And the church has held this view forever.
00:05:22.360 We have always held this view.
00:05:24.220 So to say that we can assent to a blood right or a divine right by the Jewish people to the land of Israel, and I mean the prophesied ancestral homeland of the Jewish people, would simply be un-Catholic.
00:05:39.700 Which means that Zionism is un-Catholic. 0.88
00:05:42.440 And this, I think, is what got me in hot water with some unsavory people who targeted me and tried to get me fired from the Archdiocese of Detroit.
00:05:52.360 Your details on how you were let go, when you were let go, and what it means for your family, that's truly stunning.
00:06:00.520 We're going to come back to the issue in a second, but people have to realize the gravity of this situation given your own family life.
00:06:08.680 It's extraordinarily disappointing to feel like a orphan in your own diocese.
00:06:17.060 It's bad to feel like your parish is scared to have you.
00:06:22.800 Now, the events that followed up are very strange.
00:06:25.560 They're very muddy.
00:06:26.140 They're very confusing to me.
00:06:28.020 Because when, on Tuesday, Shrove Tuesday, actually, this is the craziest part of the story.
00:06:34.140 My firing was on Ash Wednesday of all days.
00:06:36.880 It felt like it was done with all due disrespect to me and inadvertently my family because, you know, I'm the leader of my family.
00:06:45.180 They disrespected everybody in that.
00:06:46.680 Now, what they did was on Shrove Tuesday, I get a call from my pastor at the church saying, why is the Archdiocese calling me?
00:06:53.180 They said someone sent screenshots to them of your Twitter.
00:06:58.160 And, you know, no elaboration on what these tweets are.
00:07:03.220 I was like, so what are the tweets?
00:07:04.540 What are the tweets?
00:07:06.000 And didn't get much of an answer.
00:07:07.540 There's no clear answer to these things.
00:07:08.880 I don't know what's going on here.
00:07:10.420 So they said, well, they're putting, I'm putting you on administrative leave until tomorrow.
00:07:14.960 I'm waiting for the Archdiocese to get back to me on next steps.
00:07:17.520 But it sounds like they want you terminated.
00:07:19.700 Then on Ash Wednesday, I finally get the call.
00:07:22.000 And they tell me, they're like, they're like, you are terminated.
00:07:27.360 If my pastor tells me they are terminating you, I am not the one doing it.
00:07:30.860 They are terminating you effective immediately.
00:07:33.420 And I was like, okay, so you're getting rid of me.
00:07:36.580 Is there, I have a baby due in two months.
00:07:39.940 My little daughter is due in two months in May.
00:07:44.020 I was like, so are we, is there anything you guys can do?
00:07:47.760 My health care is through you guys.
00:07:50.000 I have Archdiocese, I have an Archdiocese in health care plan.
00:07:53.080 And everybody knows that when you take a job at a church, you take a reduced salary.
00:07:57.760 It's just always how it goes.
00:07:59.080 It's always how it's worked with the church.
00:08:00.580 My health care, they graciously, they would pay for in full.
00:08:04.440 Well, this is, I'm losing that at the end of the month.
00:08:07.740 And I have two options now.
00:08:09.060 I have to either go on Medicaid, because this is the United States of America, which
00:08:13.300 is government, welfare, health care, or I have to pay that $1,700 a month premium to
00:08:20.300 cover my family for those months until my daughter's born.
00:08:25.320 And I have no income through this entire process.
00:08:27.860 So I was wondering, I was like, is there anything that they're going to do?
00:08:30.500 They're not going to give me any severance or nothing?
00:08:32.900 There's nothing they can do?
00:08:33.940 No.
00:08:34.520 And I was like, well, can you at least tell me why this is happening?
00:08:38.080 What have I done wrong?
00:08:39.700 Like, what is it?
00:08:41.020 And he says, the archdiocese has instructed me not to tell you.
00:08:43.880 And I'm like, what are you talking about?
00:08:46.140 You have to tell me what I did was wrong.
00:08:48.260 And apparently they don't, because Michigan's an at-will state, meaning that you can get
00:08:53.040 terminated for any reason that they see fit.
00:08:56.280 I'm no lawyer, but I haven't pursued any exploration into that just yet.
00:09:03.040 So we're going to have to figure it out.
00:09:05.100 But ultimately, they kicked me to the curb.
00:09:08.600 My pastor knew that I had a baby due.
00:09:10.620 I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't have told them that my wife is pregnant and
00:09:13.820 expecting.
00:09:14.400 And the archdiocese offered nothing, nothing to me.
00:09:18.340 You're a young man.
00:09:19.040 You've got a young wife.
00:09:19.880 You've got a baby who's what?
00:09:21.040 How old's your eldest right now?
00:09:22.900 Yeah, I have a 14-month-old son.
00:09:24.840 You know, he's just learning to walk right now.
00:09:26.900 And your second child due when?
00:09:28.560 May.
00:09:29.120 And no severance?
00:09:30.180 Nothing.
00:09:30.920 They offered me no severance.
00:09:32.400 And I know they do, with many people, all the time.
00:09:36.080 And they wanted nothing.
00:09:37.360 It's like they were punishing me.
00:09:38.860 I can't say that I know that I was fired because of Zionism. 0.87
00:09:43.160 All I can say is that it comes on the heels of the rules for retrograde stuff.
00:09:46.920 It comes on the heels of Carrie Prejean sharing so many of my commentaries talking about how
00:09:54.760 Catholics can't assent to the tenets of Zionism that they're claiming that we have to 0.91
00:09:58.540 assent to in order to avoid anti-Semitism.
00:10:00.800 And you were given these great hints by your priest who says, what's with these tweets?
00:10:04.740 Who's the current Archbishop of Detroit?
00:10:07.720 Edward Weisenberger.
00:10:08.960 I believe he came in in maybe March or April of 2025.
00:10:13.600 He has done things that I personally would not have done that I wouldn't personally agree
00:10:18.000 with.
00:10:18.400 But, you know, I tried to be obedient to him.
00:10:21.520 Isn't he the same Weisenberger that went after the traditional Latin mass in his diocese?
00:10:29.300 That one.
00:10:30.220 It certainly is.
00:10:31.420 Isn't he the same Weisenberger who fired Dr. Ralph Martin, Dr. Eduardo Echeverria, and
00:10:40.620 Dr. Ed Peters?
00:10:42.060 That would be the one.
00:10:43.040 An unbelievable hunt for the most Orthodox people. 0.99
00:10:47.480 Um, this was unbelievable.
00:10:50.900 Sacred Heart Major Seminary had these paragons of Catholic Orthodoxy.
00:10:58.380 And I purposely use the term Orthodoxy, not tradition, because they're not hardcore trad Latin mass
00:11:06.580 guys.
00:11:07.460 These are Ralph Martin.
00:11:09.600 He's, he's like a charismatic leader, except that he was always Orthodox. 0.93
00:11:14.320 So, you know, Dr. Ed Peters, I think he might skew toward the Latin mass, but, but they are 1.00
00:11:19.800 huge names in the Catholic church, all dismissed.
00:11:24.040 So this archbishop has a, uh, a definite animus, you might say, against very faithful Catholics.
00:11:33.860 So I guess in that sense, congratulations.
00:11:37.120 I'm particularly amazed that an employer could do this to a young family and think they're going
00:11:43.000 to get away with it, even in Michigan.
00:11:45.340 I mean, give me a break.
00:11:46.680 There are quite a few opportunities, I think, ahead.
00:11:50.420 I think I've communicated with some of your team about the opportunities that are lying
00:11:53.620 ahead.
00:11:54.540 Uh, and I also am co-founding with, um, I think a mutual friend of ours, Father Calvin Robinson,
00:12:02.120 a media organization for catechizing Gen Z with three specific main goals, protecting the
00:12:09.740 American family, protecting the West's heritage and catechizing Gen Z. 0.98
00:12:15.200 That's the third part.
00:12:16.300 And so our goal is going to be putting out content that uplifts these people that, that,
00:12:22.360 that speaks to them in a language that they understand.
00:12:25.400 These young people out here, there are some hungry young Catholics.
00:12:29.480 John Henry, I imagine you've seen so many of them yourself out there that are craving
00:12:33.660 the Catholic faith.
00:12:35.120 They are craving something that they can go to, to say, I am ready to take on the spiritual
00:12:41.680 warfare.
00:12:42.220 I'm ready to take on a world that is going to be hostile to me as a young pro-Western Catholic
00:12:50.060 man.
00:12:51.380 And I feel as though I have an inheritance that is this church and that my civilization is
00:12:57.140 trying to rob me of that inheritance in many, many different ways, whether it be through,
00:13:02.700 you know, the, whether it be through the excesses of feminism, contraception, abortion, pornography, 1.00
00:13:09.060 any of these issues, immigration, any of these issues that we've seen the church largely fail
00:13:15.320 fail these young men on, that ignore them, push them out, not be synodal, not be pastoral, not be listening to
00:13:24.620 of these people's gripes, of these people's plights, frankly.
00:13:30.400 And in some cases, like in my case, facilitating the plight on these young people.
00:13:35.740 Uh, we're not in the position that we need to be as a church.
00:13:39.480 And I find it ironic that we're being told that this is the pastoral listening church,
00:13:45.960 as long as you're, you know, left-wing climate change activist or an immigration activist or a
00:13:52.280 active sodomite. 0.93
00:13:53.780 It seems like in those instances, that, that seems to be the time that seems to be the best time
00:13:58.700 in order for them to sit down and listen.
00:14:00.900 But when it's about correcting, correcting their brother in Christ, and I've told, I've told them this,
00:14:06.220 if the USCCB, the nuncio to the United States, if my archbishop wants to sit down with me and said,
00:14:11.700 you committed a sin, you did something that's wrong, I'm here to guide you,
00:14:14.540 I want to show you that this is not the way to be, I would have been happy to sit down and have that conversation.
00:14:19.720 Unfortunately, they don't want to have that conversation.
00:14:22.340 They don't want to listen.
00:14:23.560 They don't want to hear me out.
00:14:24.900 They don't want to hear what my problems are.
00:14:26.720 And I feel like I'm a voice for Gen Z Catholics in that way.
00:14:29.880 I'm a Zillennial.
00:14:31.080 I bridge the gap between Millennials and Generation Z. 0.92
00:14:34.060 I was born in 1995.
00:14:35.560 I'm 31 years old.
00:14:36.760 I am trying to be a voice for them because they are sick of the church ignoring them,
00:14:40.880 doing nothing for them, letting them rot.
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00:15:17.820 You've done the right thing.
00:15:21.140 You've started a family early, beautiful,
00:15:23.600 and early only in terms of the world.
00:15:26.580 But, you know, you're well on your way.
00:15:28.980 You're obviously well-formed in your faith.
00:15:30.600 How did you get there, by the way?
00:15:31.860 It's just an off-side question.
00:15:33.220 Where in the world did you come up?
00:15:34.500 You have a very well-formed faith.
00:15:36.000 Where did you get that?
00:15:36.720 It's a mix of things.
00:15:38.280 You know, I was raised Catholic my whole life.
00:15:40.380 I am a cradle Catholic.
00:15:41.660 You know, in college, I had my libertarian phase
00:15:44.140 where it's like, ah, live and let live, you know,
00:15:46.220 when there's no problems going on.
00:15:48.160 Now we're here and we're like,
00:15:49.800 oh my gosh, we need to go to war.
00:15:51.880 Not literally, but spiritual war.
00:15:53.800 And, you know, my grandfather, you know,
00:15:55.700 he was a massive, massive believer in Fatima
00:16:00.120 and the period of peace that Our Lady promised
00:16:02.500 to the world with the consecration and union
00:16:06.520 with all of the world's bishops.
00:16:08.760 And I was just raised up in that.
00:16:11.100 I was raised watching EWTN cartoons
00:16:13.060 with, you know, the ones of St. Patrick,
00:16:15.120 St. Francis of Assisi,
00:16:16.880 and all of these things.
00:16:18.740 When the Catholic movie came out,
00:16:19.860 when Therese came out,
00:16:20.780 we had to go see the St. Therese movie.
00:16:23.500 So I just grew up in that type of culture.
00:16:26.060 My grandmother was an immigrant from Scotland
00:16:28.640 to the United States of America in the 1960s.
00:16:32.080 And she had a strong faith
00:16:33.520 because she was persecuted as a Catholic there
00:16:35.540 because the Protestants did not like
00:16:37.040 that there were Catholics around them.
00:16:38.380 It's just a cultural Catholic faith
00:16:40.060 that was fostered by my grandfather,
00:16:41.900 my grandparents continued by my father,
00:16:45.280 who was a strong Catholic as well.
00:16:47.440 And later on, I go to college at the King's College.
00:16:51.960 I was a turning point activist throughout college.
00:16:54.760 I got a letter of recommendation
00:16:56.180 from Charlie Kirk himself
00:16:57.460 to attend the King's College.
00:16:59.920 And yeah, he was a great man
00:17:02.640 and in some ways a mentor to me.
00:17:04.540 I really miss him.
00:17:05.820 Besides that, I went there
00:17:07.720 and I decided to do politics, economics,
00:17:10.460 and philosophy as my major in college.
00:17:12.700 And so just lo and behold, unbeknownst to me,
00:17:15.980 one of the adjunct professors there
00:17:17.620 was Dr. Peter Kreeft.
00:17:19.260 So I actually learned Augustinian
00:17:21.980 and modern philosophy from him there.
00:17:24.100 I took enough theology courses.
00:17:25.700 I'm three credits short of a minor in theology.
00:17:27.860 And I then worked at Church Militant,
00:17:32.100 believe it or not.
00:17:32.780 I was working there as a producer-reporter
00:17:34.360 for a couple years.
00:17:35.620 And then for the past,
00:17:37.560 the other two years that I worked there,
00:17:39.360 I was a senior producer.
00:17:41.420 So I handled a lot of Catholic content,
00:17:44.760 worked with a lot of great Catholic minds,
00:17:46.440 and it just really helped fine-tune
00:17:48.800 my understanding of the faith
00:17:50.660 and even some of the crisis in the church.
00:17:53.420 If I were to ask you,
00:17:54.520 what are the top three biggest concerns
00:17:57.260 for young Catholic men today?
00:17:59.940 What would you say?
00:18:00.740 Number one, I think,
00:18:02.920 is they feel like they're not welcome.
00:18:07.040 They feel like the church has embraced
00:18:10.860 a hermeneutic of suspicion
00:18:14.060 about dealing with them and their problems.
00:18:17.400 Sodomy, you know, pornography addiction,
00:18:21.320 abortion, contraception.
00:18:22.860 These are just considered, you know,
00:18:25.280 normative excesses
00:18:27.000 that the church is willing to converse about,
00:18:30.740 deal with.
00:18:31.220 Even Protestant heresy 0.70
00:18:32.360 are things that need to be dealt with
00:18:35.000 with kid gloves.
00:18:36.500 But let's say there are some young kids out there
00:18:39.380 that are over-exuberant.
00:18:41.300 Let's say there's kids out there
00:18:42.780 that share, you know,
00:18:44.360 uncouth memes with bad opinions,
00:18:47.160 you know, on any,
00:18:49.260 name your controversial issue,
00:18:51.020 any of the isms that they say,
00:18:52.600 homophobia or whatever isms
00:18:54.660 that they can come up with.
00:18:56.440 Those issues,
00:18:58.020 they are shut out
00:18:59.900 for those opinions.
00:19:02.660 Even uncouth opinions on immigration,
00:19:04.520 they are shunned.
00:19:05.600 There is a shun culture. 1.00
00:19:06.880 They need to be listened to.
00:19:08.020 They need to be pastoralized.
00:19:10.240 They also need churches
00:19:11.360 to stop focusing on migrants.
00:19:15.360 Everything is about helping migrants,
00:19:17.440 resettling migrants,
00:19:18.380 making sure that they're doing okay
00:19:19.740 in the United States.
00:19:21.100 These people are craving marriage.
00:19:24.020 These people are craving starting a family.
00:19:27.080 They want to live in a home.
00:19:28.740 They want to live the American dream.
00:19:31.080 They want to live in a white picket fence,
00:19:33.040 single family home,
00:19:34.060 and they are completely unaffordable.
00:19:35.920 And the churches have offered
00:19:36.920 no sympathy,
00:19:39.020 no solutions,
00:19:41.120 nothing.
00:19:41.860 They are happy to give
00:19:43.180 all of this money
00:19:44.380 away to migrant resettlement programs, 1.00
00:19:47.360 but they're not doing it
00:19:48.620 for young Catholic American
00:19:51.180 resettlement into their own homes.
00:19:53.780 I would have to say
00:19:54.760 the third thing
00:19:55.500 is they're craving
00:19:57.360 the mysticism of the faith,
00:19:58.900 the magic,
00:19:59.840 the beauty,
00:20:00.640 the love,
00:20:01.800 the centrality of Christ
00:20:05.020 in the mass.
00:20:07.720 And this is why you see
00:20:09.560 all these young people
00:20:10.680 flocking to traditional
00:20:11.740 Latin mass parishes,
00:20:13.080 and even some reverent
00:20:14.160 Novus Ordo parishes as well.
00:20:15.740 You see them flocking to that
00:20:17.580 because they crave
00:20:18.680 that Christ-centered liturgy.
00:20:21.620 They crave the beauty.
00:20:23.160 They crave the incense.
00:20:24.780 They crave the gold.
00:20:26.300 They crave the power of God.
00:20:28.500 That's what they want.
00:20:29.540 They want to be ruled.
00:20:30.800 They want to be cultivated.
00:20:32.060 They want to be slaves to Christ. 0.66
00:20:34.280 That's what they want.
00:20:35.120 They want that purpose.
00:20:36.440 They don't know.
00:20:37.180 They're wandering the desert right now.
00:20:38.860 We don't want them
00:20:39.500 to be wandering the desert.
00:20:41.080 They don't want to be
00:20:41.920 wandering the desert.
00:20:42.560 We want to bring them out.
00:20:43.420 We want to show them
00:20:44.440 their inheritance,
00:20:45.480 the greatness of
00:20:46.440 Western civilization,
00:20:47.700 the sacrifice of Christ
00:20:48.800 on the cross.
00:20:49.760 When you look at the church today,
00:20:52.040 you're a Catholic.
00:20:53.220 You've got one child,
00:20:54.760 one on the way,
00:20:55.440 so you know they're going
00:20:56.240 to be growing up
00:20:57.000 in the church.
00:20:59.000 And you look at
00:20:59.760 our hierarchy today,
00:21:01.740 do you still have hope?
00:21:02.960 I'm terrified of the current,
00:21:04.920 of what damage
00:21:06.260 the current hierarchy
00:21:07.720 could potentially do
00:21:08.960 if they don't correct
00:21:10.020 course soon.
00:21:10.800 These young people
00:21:11.660 are angry.
00:21:12.160 These young people
00:21:14.060 are extraordinarily angry
00:21:16.280 and you need to stop
00:21:17.600 fighting them
00:21:18.180 and start loving them.
00:21:19.440 You need to start
00:21:20.040 fine-tuning them
00:21:20.960 and stop hating them
00:21:22.160 for who they are
00:21:22.860 or what they believe.
00:21:23.980 Stop apologizing
00:21:25.020 for whatever social justice
00:21:26.480 cause that you're
00:21:27.380 fighting for
00:21:28.200 and start fighting
00:21:28.840 for the people
00:21:29.880 that built all of this up,
00:21:31.220 the people that built Rome,
00:21:33.160 the people that built,
00:21:34.160 you know,
00:21:35.180 Cologne's Cathedral,
00:21:36.440 those people,
00:21:37.600 the Western people.
00:21:39.180 Those people
00:21:39.900 deserve something as well.
00:21:41.340 They're forgotten.
00:21:42.760 They're left behind.
00:21:43.980 And I do see
00:21:45.400 a glimmer of hope.
00:21:46.740 I'm looking at
00:21:47.500 Orthodoxy returning 0.97
00:21:48.600 in striking numbers
00:21:51.040 among the young clergy
00:21:53.220 of the church.
00:21:54.520 But I do feel
00:21:56.580 that a lot of these
00:21:57.600 older bishops,
00:21:58.780 they are so glued
00:22:01.060 to progressivism.
00:22:02.560 They are so glued
00:22:03.980 to the negative outcomes
00:22:06.340 from the spirit
00:22:06.960 of Vatican II.
00:22:07.660 They're so devoted
00:22:09.160 to these things
00:22:10.760 that are making
00:22:11.340 young people
00:22:11.980 just meh
00:22:13.320 with the church.
00:22:14.860 And they need
00:22:16.240 to either change
00:22:18.080 or they need to go.
00:22:19.620 You mentioned
00:22:20.160 from your youth
00:22:20.960 you were talking
00:22:21.680 about the apparitions
00:22:24.000 of Our Lady of Fatima.
00:22:25.580 Does that figure in
00:22:26.760 at all
00:22:27.200 to your calculus
00:22:28.300 of your future outlook
00:22:29.800 for the church?
00:22:30.440 I would say it does.
00:22:31.520 I believe that Our Lady
00:22:32.320 is watching out for us.
00:22:33.520 I agree.
00:22:33.900 I agree that Our Lady
00:22:35.280 will cradle us
00:22:36.140 in her arms
00:22:36.820 as people that are
00:22:38.220 earnestly seeking her
00:22:39.360 no matter what
00:22:40.280 the church hierarchy does.
00:22:42.160 If there's anything
00:22:42.880 that this experience
00:22:43.840 has taught me
00:22:44.640 is that God
00:22:46.540 will be there for me
00:22:47.440 when the church won't be.
00:22:48.480 We've had a fundraiser
00:22:49.480 going on for me
00:22:51.100 and it's already
00:22:52.280 raised.
00:22:55.040 If you were to
00:22:55.540 negate taxation
00:22:56.440 what my salary
00:22:57.720 would have been
00:22:58.400 had I stayed there
00:22:59.300 for another year.
00:23:00.820 You know,
00:23:01.200 it's kind of ironic,
00:23:03.140 right?
00:23:03.340 But it tells me
00:23:06.220 that God
00:23:07.480 that God himself
00:23:08.640 you know
00:23:09.320 is looking
00:23:10.160 is looking down
00:23:11.060 and saying
00:23:11.680 I'm very disappointed
00:23:13.540 that this happened
00:23:14.320 but do not let this
00:23:15.560 thwart you.
00:23:16.600 Do not let this
00:23:17.380 get you down.
00:23:18.220 I will be here for you
00:23:19.320 if they will not
00:23:20.120 and you know
00:23:21.660 I feel like that's
00:23:22.680 through the intercession
00:23:23.500 of Our Lady.
00:23:24.540 I credit this
00:23:25.300 to the intercession
00:23:26.220 of St. Therese
00:23:26.960 the little flower.
00:23:28.040 I always carry
00:23:28.800 on my neck
00:23:29.920 a third class relic
00:23:31.200 of hers.
00:23:32.160 and my family
00:23:34.500 has had a devotion
00:23:35.120 to her for roughly
00:23:36.100 100 years now
00:23:36.980 ever since she was
00:23:37.660 made a saint.
00:23:38.360 I believe
00:23:38.920 that we are
00:23:41.060 potentially amidst
00:23:43.240 a mass apostasy
00:23:44.500 in the church
00:23:45.220 since the 1960s
00:23:46.780 and I fervently
00:23:47.800 believe it's coming
00:23:49.220 to an end
00:23:49.860 and peace is coming.
00:23:50.900 Joe Enders
00:23:51.420 thank you so much
00:23:52.100 for being with us.
00:23:52.780 God bless you
00:23:53.340 and God bless
00:23:54.440 all your family.
00:23:55.560 Keep fighting
00:23:56.680 for the truth.
00:23:57.320 Obviously the Lord
00:23:58.200 loves you
00:23:58.900 and is taking care of you.
00:24:00.220 God bless you my friend.
00:24:01.340 God bless.
00:24:02.020 And God bless all of you
00:24:03.100 and we'll see you next time.
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