In this special episode, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of Astana, Kazakhstan, joins us to discuss the controversial issue of abortion-tainted vaccines developed with fetal cell lines used in their manufacture, and tested in the testing of these vaccines.
00:00:00.520Welcome to this special episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we are very pleased and blessed to bring to you Bishop Athanasius Schneider.
00:00:10.200Most of you know him as a very outspoken defender of the Catholic faith in these most troubled times.
00:00:16.840He is the Auxiliary Bishop of Astana in Kazakhstan.
00:00:21.240Welcome, Bishop Schneider, to the John Henry Weston Show.
00:00:28.120And we're going to be discussing something very, very important for these times, the issue of vaccines, COVID vaccines developed with abortion tainted COVID vaccines, both in terms of their development, some with aborted fetal cell lines used in their manufacture, some used with its testing of these of these vaccines.
00:00:53.320And so we're going to get into all of that. You're going to want to stay tuned.
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00:01:38.540And let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
00:01:41.640Excellency, if you wouldn't mind leading us.
00:01:43.100In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Amen.
00:01:50.920So, Bishop Schneider, that recent document that you put out on vaccines is very timely, but also, I must say, very controversial.
00:02:03.200I have never seen such controversy among very good people.
00:02:07.720So, if you could, tell us a little about it first, about what it is, and how it came to be, and maybe your consultation process that brought it to fruition.
00:02:18.240This document came because, in the last month and weeks, several bishops from around the world made public statements
00:02:34.420justifying the use of vaccines produced by cell lines of aborted babies.
00:03:18.020And of two documents of the Holy See, from 2005, the Pontifical Academy for Life, and 2008, the Doctrine of Faith, where this issue was discussed.
00:03:33.680And substantially, both documents allow to use such vaccines in an exceptional way.
00:03:43.820We have to stress this, these documents say that not only you can just use this on the base of the so-called principle of moral material remote cooperation,
00:03:59.180but it should be in an exceptional way, and at the same time, those who use should ask, demand, an alternative of vaccine, which do not use in any way such cells.
00:04:18.160So, and this caused to me and to other of my confreres, bishops, some bishops, and faithful concern, because this is confusion,
00:04:33.160and it is undermining, ultimately, if you want or not, it's undermining the fifth commandment of God,
00:04:45.160and the absolute maximum determination of the church to oppose the evil of abortion.
00:04:57.160And therefore, we consider this as not responsible to be silent, as not responsible to enter the great chorus group,
00:05:09.020even of good theologians and good-minded people.
00:05:13.640Because in our conscience, we have to follow the conscience, and our conscience say it is not possible, it is a damage.
00:05:33.580And we explain, then after we can see the reasons, but as I already mentioned for this, and this is not a matter of quantity, of numbers, but of truth,
00:05:52.600of that we are, which, of what we are convinced as pastors.
00:05:56.440And I discussed this, all the signatories, very carefully, and we were really all convinced, we have to speak.
00:06:12.380Now, just so that everyone gets the gravity of what, I know you understand this,
00:06:19.740but the gravity of what is at stake here is quite something.
00:06:24.500The vaccine is being approved, they have already approved the first one in some countries,
00:06:30.380they've already started administering it in the UK and in the US as well.
00:06:35.680One of the bishops in the US has just become one of the first people to receive the vaccine.
00:06:40.660We have the UK Bishops' Conference saying that there is a, you know,
00:06:45.620Catholics are compelled to take the vaccine, even if it's abortion tainted.
00:06:50.680And they're basing themselves, yes, on these documents from 2005 and 2008,
00:06:54.820but they don't even seem to be as concerned with the stipulations,
00:06:58.400even those documents put into place that Catholics have to demand
00:07:01.520vaccines that aren't abortion tainted and so on.
00:07:05.060But your position goes beyond that of the 2005-2008 documents,
00:07:10.040in that it suggests that Catholics cannot morally take such vaccines at all,