In order to get to the truth, we got to Brazil's number one blogger, Bernardo Cauda, who has spoken with the President, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, about what is going on in Brazil.
00:02:11.320So, your country right now is sort of blowing up.
00:02:15.460I need you to tell us what's going on because we're not hearing it here.
00:02:20.640So, all the media around the world is telling that Bolsonaro accepted the results and he's going to respect the constitution.
00:02:27.740And that now we are going to have a transition period of governments.
00:02:34.040Because in Brazil, the new government starts on January 1st.
00:02:38.240It's different from the United States.
00:02:40.740So, now we have two months to change the government.
00:02:43.960The thing is that we had a very similar electoral process that you had in 2020, two years ago.
00:02:53.200So, we have an election with a lot of interference from the electoral court because we have not only the Supreme Court here in Brazil, we have the electoral court.
00:03:06.360That they provide the administrative service and they do the elections here in Brazil.
00:03:14.780And they also judge the electoral problems we have.
00:03:18.120But now they use all this fake news story that is since in 2016 to censor all the conservatives.
00:03:30.460For example, when Bolsonaro went to the UN, the United Nations, to talk, they said, oh, he cannot use these videos on his campaign because he used the taxpayer money to go there as the president.
00:03:50.980When he went to London, Elizabeth II's funeral said, no, no, no.
00:03:55.320He also used the public money to do that, the taxpayer money to do that.
00:03:59.900Also, when he, in September 7th, when we had the celebration of the 200 years of our independence, they said, no, you cannot use these images because this is an act of the presidency, not of the candidate.
00:04:18.120Telling that he cannot call Lula that won the election.
00:04:22.820Or they are told us that he won, that he is not a thief, that he is not, that he was not condemned by the justice.
00:04:31.900And then the Supreme Court in Brazil changed everything, said, no, no, no, no, no.
00:04:46.580So, he could not be judged in Curitiba in Brazil, which is a city, my capital here in Paraná.
00:04:51.980He was to be judged in Brasilia, which is the capital of Brazil.
00:04:55.820So, all the judicial process must begin again.
00:05:01.620Now, he's owed, and all the laws we have in Brazil tell that now he is not to blame anymore, and now he can run the elections again, and then he won.
00:05:12.520And this they made with a lot of people I have here in my house to show you.
00:05:19.000I have this paper of the electoral court here in Brazil.
00:05:23.700So, I received this, all these papers, because the works party in Brazil from Lula, they sued me because I could not repeat a phrase that Lula said about our farmers.
00:05:40.620He said, all the farmers in Brazil are fascists, and I used this video, and I just replied in my social media, and he said, no, this is fake news, because he was saying that only some farmers are fascists.
00:05:56.760But the video, no, when he did the interview, he said, no, they're fascists.
00:06:00.540They prohibited to this electoral court, prohibited us to say that Lula is pro-abortion, and he is.
00:06:12.780Just because he said two days before the election, I'm pro-life, just because he said that two or three days before the election, they prohibited the influencers to say that he's pro-abortion, pro-gender ideology, and everything else.
00:06:29.900Because now he's faking to be some kind of center-leftist, you know?
00:06:35.380So, they are changing everything in this election.
00:06:38.120Oh, they changed everything in this election, and also there is another problem, because Bolsonaro won in all the regions in Brazil.
00:06:44.860Only in Northeast, he lost, but he lost for good.
00:06:49.480So, it was, I think, 60 or 65% Lula and 35% Bolsonaro.
00:06:55.260And there was a problem in that region, because according to Bolsonaro's campaign, all the media insertions here in Brazil in the second turn, because we had the first round of elections and the second round to elect a president.
00:07:12.240And in the second round, all the publicity, all the propaganda from the candidates must be equal, according to our law.
00:07:21.200So, if Bolsonaro has, I don't know, 50, right to 50 inserts in a radio, Lula must have 52.
00:07:28.660But in Northeast, it was very different.
00:07:31.300I think that Bolsonaro had something around 40% less insertions in Northeast.
00:07:37.040And there was the place that changed the election.
00:07:40.680So, we have a lot of doubts also about our electoral system with those electronic machines that we cannot, you know, check if everything was right.
00:07:55.080So, a lot of problems, John, and Brazil now is complaining.
00:07:59.580People are, you know, going to the streets on all of Brazil, blocking streets.
00:08:05.680All the truckers, they are, they are, they're mad, you know, because Bolsonaro is popular.
00:08:11.380He can go to the streets, thousands, millions of people go with him.
00:09:36.520Since Bolsonaro took power and he was elected in 1918, in 2018, he symbolized and concentrated all the conservative feeling and disposition here in Brazil.
00:09:52.560And the conservative movement, politically speaking, grew very fast and strong.
00:09:59.780And all the powers here in Brazil that were established together with the establishment were mad because they knew they're going to lose everything.
00:10:10.400So, in the 2020 election, the Works Party, for example, lose a lot of mayors and local deputies.
00:14:03.820All the rest voted for Bolsonaro or didn't go to vote.
00:14:08.620So we have around 95 million people that doesn't like Lula.
00:14:15.420So all of this, almost 100 million, which is half of the country, because Brazil has 2015, 250 million people, almost a half of the country doesn't want him.
00:14:27.040So those families, those peoples, those companies, all of these people, must go to the streets and protest.
00:14:39.120Protest because this could be our last chance.
00:14:42.840Because we know what happens in a country when a socialist goes to power.
00:15:44.780I don't want to close this interview without talking at least for a couple minutes about the fact that last week, President Bolsonaro consecrated Brazil to Our Lady.
00:16:02.720He is married to a Protestant, Michelle, with his wife.
00:16:08.280And a lot of groups, Catholic groups, were asking them, Bolsonaro, please consecrate Brazil to Our Lady of Apparition.
00:16:18.100And then just, I don't know, someday, a week before the election, he consecrated Brazil to Our Lady of Apparition, using the words of our former princess when Brazil was a monarchy.
00:16:35.500Because our former princess, Isabel, consecrated Brazil in 19, I don't remember the date, 1988 or 1987, 1887 or 1889.
00:16:48.100She consecrated, and he used her words and consecrated as the president of Brazil.
00:17:03.880Well, Bernardo, be assured of our prayers for you.
00:17:07.340And we really pray for a just and proper outcome here.
00:17:13.060We'll pray with you to Our Lady that she might intervene in this to save Brazil from what it looks like is coming under a disastrous rule of Lula.
00:17:24.460God bless you, my friend, and thank you so much for joining us.
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