Carrie Prejean SPEAKS OUT on Threats to Her Life
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Join us as we hear from Carrie Prejean Bowler as she talks about the recent controversy surrounding the Trump Interreligious Liberty Commission hearing and how she stood up for her beliefs. Carrie is a Catholic and served as a Miss America contestant in 2009. She has two beautiful children with NFLer Kyle Bowler. She became a Catholic last Easter and is in her first year of marriage.
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My husband and I sat our kids down and my kids understand that when you wear this on
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your forehead and when you proclaim the name of Christ, there will be persecution.
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Hey my friends, welcome to the John Henry Wesson Show.
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She's been all over the news before in the past too.
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But she's just made international headlines once again.
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And of course, the controversy recently about the Trump Interreligious Liberty Commission
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But you might remember her from 2009 because in 2009, she made international headlines as well.
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She was the Miss America contestant who actually defended marriage from the podium.
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She has two beautiful children with NFLer Kyle Bowler.
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And she finds herself once again in the spotlight.
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Believe it or not, she became a Catholic last Easter.
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We're not even yet at her first anniversary of being Catholic.
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Let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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Let's take a quick look at what you said that sparked all the recent controversy.
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And Catholics do not embrace Zionism, just so you know.
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So are all Catholics anti-Semites, according to you?
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As I said, anti-Zionism, by denying the right of the Jews to have their own state,
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while not saying the same for any other peoples, that is a double standard hypocrisy and anti-Semites.
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If somebody says they're an anti-Zionist, they are saying about themselves that they have
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a double standard and hypocrisy, and they're taking anti-Semitic positions.
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Carrie, do you feel like you have your questions in?
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I don't agree with that, because as a Catholic, I don't agree that the new modern state of
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Israel has any biblical prophecy meaning at all.
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Can you just walk us through what actually happened?
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I mean, everybody's seen now the snippet, and it's very interesting.
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But walk us through what happened at the hearing, what was said, and what stood out to you the
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Yeah, so people don't understand that this Religious Liberty Commission has been established.
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It was established last May on the National Day of Prayer.
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And then we started having hearings starting in, I believe it was August or September, every
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month until the following May, so that this upcoming May would be our one year.
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And at the end of the commission, we meet with the president, and we advise him on certain
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executive orders, legislation that could possibly be passed to ensure religious freedom for all
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So that's really important, I want to say to everyone.
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So this isn't just, you know, we come and we hear from people and that's it.
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We are actually trusted by the president to advise him.
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We are advisors to the president on issues pertaining religious freedom in America.
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So leading up into this hearing, I will say I was speaking out about Gaza.
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I was posting, you know, what Pope Leo was saying about the suffering in Gaza, holding firm
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to my Catholic faith, obviously being very pro-life from, you know, the womb to outside of the
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And so it just didn't sit well with me that I was seeing what I was seeing with my own two
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eyes, and I was being denied my religious freedom to speak about it.
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But the White House called me one day back in August, asked me for my resignation, and
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And the woman said, I can't give you any details.
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And I said, well, who asked you to, you know, ask me to resign?
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And she said, Paula White and Dan Patrick, who are equals of mine on this commission, they're
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So fast forward to this hearing, which is very important information I would like your viewers
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So fast forward to this hearing is that, you know, it was very highly anticipated that
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I had already been asked to resign simply because I was speaking out about Gaza.
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They had told me that I wasn't allowed to use social media, that I needed to stay off
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social media, that I wasn't allowed to have my, they called it replacement theology beliefs
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And they told me, Dan Patrick told me specifically that my job is to protect the president while
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And while I told, you know, the world basically on Monday that my allegiance is to Christ and
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This is a religious liberty commission to advise the president, you're all equals.
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So the announcement then of your removal, he's not really a removal.
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I'm waiting on the president to tell the American people what his decision is.
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I think he owes it not only to me as a Catholic, but to all religious people of all faiths.
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I've had so many people reach out to me and say, I'm praying for you.
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This religious liberty commission was established by the president.
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And the only way that I can be removed is by the president.
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So this is showing that this is a hijacking by a political ideology.
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I will not deny my faith in Christ and what the Catholic Church teaches
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regarding life and regarding what we believe, our theological differences.
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You're not only a Catholic, you're an American.
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And you can tell us Canadians would probably go, oh, they kicked me out.
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Any background noises you're hearing positively that, you know,
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things are happening, that they're getting the message.
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Yeah, I've heard from several people within the White House that he is receiving tremendous
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I hope that he realizes that 56% of Catholics voted for him in 2024.
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And I know there's three Catholics that are thinking about running for president in 2028.
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So I don't think now is the time to really dismiss Catholics, fire Catholics, remove Catholics
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simply because I'm standing up for my Catholic faith.
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So I'm hopeful that he's going to make the right decision.
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Otherwise, this Religious Liberty Commission should be completely shut down.
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If I don't have my religious freedom on a Religious Freedom Commission, it's not a Religious
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I'm going to let you have a chance to express your beliefs that are apparently so controversial
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I mean, you have to remember, I don't know if you're a Credo Catholic.
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I was a Protestant my entire life until just this past year.
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And the Protestant churches, they shove down your throats that, you know, the biblical
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And when the Lord was starting to kind of really make me interested in Catholicism, I
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I just submerged myself in all things, what the Catholic Church teaches and what they
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And so the Holy Spirit really led me to the Catholic Church.
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And I started to question, you know, what is dispensationalism?
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It was just basic questions of why am I even this sect of Christianity, this certain denomination
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I would consider myself a non-denominational Christian before I became Catholic.
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It's funny because I would talk to Catholics and they didn't even know what Zionism was.
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It's an American evangelical push that was really being pushed many, many, many years ago.
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And it kind of infiltrated into the Christian churches.
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I started waking up and realizing that it's a lie.
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And the Israel today is not the same as the Israel of the Bible.
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And so the way that they're trying to twist this and turn this, ultimately, this is a
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You know, they had pastors up there saying that those who bless Israel will be blessed.
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It's the Ted Cruz's, you know, of this world who interpret scripture the way that they want
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And they don't have teaching authority above them, correcting them in their error.
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Chaos is exactly what happened long ago with the Protestant Reformation.
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So, yeah, I just, I have a lot of, you know, skin in the game in this because I was a Protestant
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I know what we were, you know, taught to believe.
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I, by no means, have to embrace Zionism as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
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And that's not anti-Semitic to say, that's called being a Christian.
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There is a very strange thing with certain sects of Protestantism, but also it's creeping into
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This kind of false understanding that the Jews sort of have their own kind of covenant.
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Yeah, it's dual covenant, you know, and I mean, you know, probably more than anyone as
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a cradle Catholic, we believe that there is the old covenant fulfilled in the new, you
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They want to, you know, say that we're replacement theology.
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So the old being beautifully fulfilled in the new, it's what we hear every Sunday at mass
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when we see the Old Testament, New Testament beautifully interwoven and see the old prophecies
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And so I reject that there's this dual covenant and that there's two ways and two, you know,
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And Galatians tells us very clearly who is the seed of Abraham.
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And those who are in Christ and all are welcome, Jews, Gentiles, all are welcome to enter into
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I have a beautiful friend who was Jewish, who actually became first a Protestant, then tried
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to convert Catholics for 10 years, then became a Catholic, then became a Catholic nun.
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But she said to me once, you know, because we were talking about the same thing, about
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how there's this whole bunch of now Catholics who want to not evangelize the Jews.
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And she said, being a former Jew, she said, the greatest form of anti-Semitism is keeping
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And I thought, whoa, she's saying that with full recognition of what that actually means.
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The greatest form of anti-Semitism is keeping Jesus from the Jews.
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Theological differences, you know, how they believe, you know, these dispensational people,
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the understanding of the third temple being rebuilt and ushering in the, you know, animal
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And the Dome of the Rock needs to be, you know, torn down and the new temple be rebuilt.
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They think that two thirds are going to be cut off.
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They think that there's going to be a Holocaust of the Jewish people, or, you know, they're
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And so I think Christianity has been subverted by this teaching and we have to correct course.
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You tweeted one of the patriarchs of the Holy Land, the Catholic patriarch of the Holy Land,
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What have you garnered from their stance in all of this?
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Yeah, I've spoken to many of the church leaders in Jerusalem.
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They have supported me and I, and they have my support as well, but they've reached out
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You have no idea how much your voice means to the Palestinians here, including Christians.
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When the church in Gaza, the Catholic church in Gaza was, was bombed.
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That's when it really hit me that, you know what?
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These are Christians that are being targeted in, in Palestine.
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You know, Cardinal Pizabala, he, he came out and he said, it would be a betrayal of our
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It was either him or one of the other heads of the churches there.
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And they made a, they made a very clear statement about Zionism.
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I have it pinned on my, on my social media page.
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I can't tell you how grateful those folks are to you because they have been begging.
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These are the bishops, Catholic bishops, Orthodox bishops of the Holy Land.
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They have been begging their brothers in the faith, the bishops in America to say this.
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Here you are, a brand new Catholic being given, honestly, I believe a podium by our Lord to
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You weren't trying to say the thing that everybody says.
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You mentioned how you're not suicidal, you're a Catholic, you'd never harm yourself.
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And a lot of people think, ah, maybe that's just a cool thing to say now, everybody's saying
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But when I heard you on another interview about how you've been involved in the political
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scene for so long, from when you made those first controversial comments supporting our
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Lord's definition of marriage right through to now.
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Yeah, I mean, the first night that I got home, I had very disturbing phone calls all
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And then I spoke with someone very high up in our government.
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And they said, you know, Carrie, you have to be really careful that, you know, your phone
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could be tapped or, you know, they could try to have an accident happen to you.
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You're dealing with a very, very sensitive topic that nobody has the guts to talk about
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And you just exposed it and you exposed it on a very large stage.
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And obviously the attention that it's getting now, I'm not getting the attention.
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This topic is getting the attention and it's needed and it's been needed for a very, very
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And so, yes, that, that message that I put out there, I was, I was very serious and the
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There is threats and there's, there's been threats on my life since 2009.
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When I dared to say marriage is between one man and one woman, anybody who speaks out for
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biblical truth and for Christ has a target on their back.
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And so I just wanted to put it out there that I'm not suicidal.
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So I just wanted to let the public know about that.
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If you don't mind me asking, I'm a, I'm a dad myself.
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Your husband, your family supporting you in this, cause this is tough stuff.
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You know, my husband and I sat our kids down and my kids understand that when you wear this
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on your forehead and when you proclaim the name of Christ, there will be persecution.
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My priest, after I, after I spoke at the hearing, you know, I told him, I said, father,
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I said, I could be removed from this commission for standing for truth of what the Catholic
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And he said, Carrie, if you get removed from this commission, take it as a badge of honor.
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Because you could have easily gone along with it, you know, and I, I chose to stand just
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And my faith means more to me than any crown or any access to the president or any position.
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I would rather die than be forced to deny my faith.
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And so my kids understand, and you know, they're scared and, you know, I'll be honest, it's a
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There's people that want to take me out simply because I'm a Catholic and I stand for, for
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They want to label me an anti-Semite or a bigot or hate, hateful person.
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So I'm just standing for, for my Catholic faith.
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And I hope everybody else has the courage to do the same.
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And from your evangelical days, you'll remember this.
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Blessed are you when they revile you and persecute you for my name's sake.
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You can take a lot of heart from the Holy Bible and its promises to you for standing up for the faith.
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In fact, you might know, but there's thousands of people who signed a petition that we're going to deliver to you as soon as we've reached the number that we need to, who are praying for you.
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They want you to know that they support you very much in what you're doing, your courage and your stand for Christ and his church.
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Wanted to ask you this from the president, any word yet, like any hint there's, and what can we do?
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What can the people do to assist getting to the president?
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If you hadn't heard it all yet, what can we do to make some noise, to make it happen?
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Because this is really, you are representing so many of us who don't have the platform, don't have the voice right now.
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And I so appreciate you asking me that, and thanks to all your listeners who have prayed for me and who have sent me thousands of messages just saying thank you.
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I would like the viewers to just pray that the president gets the courage to do the right thing and to uphold his promise to the American people that he's going to protect religious freedom, including Christians, and including Christian hatred.
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Why is a Catholic being removed from a commission because I don't believe what everybody else believes on that commission?
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We have a diverse commission for a reason, and we should be allowed to speak our mind, and we shouldn't call each other hateful or bigots or, you know, any sort of name simply because we hold firm to what we believe.
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And so I want your listeners, and I would love for you to just, if you can, just try to just pray for courage for the president.
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I mean, that's really all we can do, that he would make the right decision and uphold religious liberty here in America, because people are worried, and MAGA is totally divided right now over this issue.
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If any Catholic wants to win in 2028, I want to encourage J.D., Vance, Marco Rubio, and Ron DeSantis to come out in support of me and my religious freedom.
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In addition to praying, we've got three targets now for our friendly communications to encourage them.
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But, Carrie, I want to thank you so much for joining us.
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I can tell you that it's amazing for me to see that the Lord has moved you to center stage twice in your life now, and it's really because others are unwilling.
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And when our Lord finds a willing soul, he takes that soul, and he's moved in your life so powerfully.
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