Catholic ranch THRIVES despite ban from Archbishop Gustavo
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Summary
Archbishop Gustavo Garcia-Siller cancels a Catholic family s retreat center, bars Catholics from coming to it, and sends Dan Savigny a letter saying he's only allowed to communicate with him, and no Catholics allowed to come to our property.
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He came out and prohibited all Catholics from coming to our retreat center,
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canceled all of the retreat contracts that we legally had in force with him,
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and sent me a letter from his attorney saying that I'm only to communicate with him
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and no Catholic is allowed to come to our property.
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Hello, my friends, and welcome once again to Sanctus Ranch.
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and this is one of the most striking things that I've ever seen from an archbishop in the Catholic Church
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because we're now used to funny, let's say, archbishops canceling good priests for doing the right thing.
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The first time we saw an archbishop cancel a Catholic family's business was right here at Sanctus Ranch.
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Dan Savigny and his family and their Sanctus Ranch here in Texas.
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And we're going to do a little bit of catch-up with Dan to find out what's gone on over these past number of months
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and how they've fared under the cancellation by Archbishop Gustavo.
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It's great to see you again. Thanks for coming down.
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Let's begin, as you always do, with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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Amen. So, Dan, I know a lot of people, in fact, tens of thousands of people watched our original show.
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But for those who didn't, and if you didn't, I would encourage you to go watch the old show.
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But for those who didn't, can you give us a short recap?
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We have a retreat center we've had for the last eight years,
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been doing retreats year in, year out, every weekend.
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And then we had a priest that was available start staying at our property.
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And we opened a Catholic school because of a need with our family and some others.
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And so that priest was also teaching in our school.
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We had a second priest that was retired that was also teaching in the school.
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And we ran into a situation with the local ordinary that we wanted to have a meeting,
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and he wanted to ask some questions, which we were open to doing so.
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And all of a sudden, with no real notice other than I'm not going to reschedule the meeting,
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he came out and prohibited all Catholics from coming to our retreat center,
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canceled all of the retreat contracts that we legally had in force with him,
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and sent me a letter from his attorney saying that I'm only to communicate with him,
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and no Catholic is allowed to come to our property.
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Yes, but we don't even know how to respond to that because that's so insane.
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So the Archbishop in question is San Antonio Archbishop Gustavo Garcia Siller.
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And he's quite well known all the time for doing all sorts of things.
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Now, one of the things has been cancellations of very good priests,
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Yeah, it seems to be something that he's very much against.
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There's one available in the diocese, but that's it.
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And so I think that there was something that he didn't like.
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The priests that were here would say the Latin Mass,
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which we were very happy to have them say their private Mass.
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There's many stunning things that I want to get into.
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But Archbishop Gustavo, as he calls himself, got into the news just the other day.
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And I wanted to bring that forward only because it gives a good flavor
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And it just, I'll let the word speak for themselves.
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This is from Archbishop Gustavo's X account, Twitter account.
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The most controversial of these tweets was deleted.
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He was on a rant about the new president-elect.
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and the explosion of the cyber truck outside the Trump Tower.
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Anyway, there's been a lot of speculations about what those tweets mean.
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But it gives you a flavor of where Archbishop Gustavo is coming from.
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You guys had a difficulty here with Ordinarian Mass, did you not as well?
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Yeah, we actually belong to the Ordinarian, and so there were challenges that were there
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He seems to dislike anything to do with traditional Catholicism, which is really sad.
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It is, because, I mean, for those of you who don't know, the Ordinarian Mass is not
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It is the old Anglicans who come into the church and they have a special rite.
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But basically, it amounts to the traditional Latin Mass translated into English, and it's
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And it said the same, ad orientem, in other words, facing the priest, facing Jesus in the
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And they all receive communion, kneeling it on the tongue as is proper.
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It's kind of anti-tradition, the same tradition that's lasted in the church over 2,000 years.
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But anyway, there's a good snapshot of Archbishop Gustavo.
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But what is stunning, and I think what most people were so taken aback by, was the cancellation
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So there's one thing about Mass, if he doesn't want you to have Mass on your property and whatever.
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First of all, it's private, which is another weird thing.
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But anyway, beyond that, he said that Catholics in his diocese are forbidden from coming to your
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property, i.e. to your business, which this is as well.
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Yeah, that's one of the things that just seems insane.
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Quite frankly, imagine that we had ordinaries all over the country say, you can no longer go
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to McDonald's or to Chick-fil-A, or they don't even say you can no longer go to Planned Parenthood.
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But yet this bishop thought he could tell all Catholics that they could not come to our property,
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not set foot on our property, or attend any of the activities we have, whether they have
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anything to do with the faith, or they're simply a dinner, they've been told that they
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Yeah, it's a really good comparison to say to a restaurant or something, because you run
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sort of in here or a hotel, if you will, but also there's a bakery here now.
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Tell us a little bit about the different businesses running out of here.
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And tell us about your family, because you don't only have one child and you're running
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Yeah, well, my wife Jennifer and I started Sanctus Ranch.
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One of them is now married with our first grandson, which we're very excited about.
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And so we do have many things that are going on.
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We've had to scramble and try to figure things out.
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But one of the things that has come to us is that our daughter, who is discerning her vocation,
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has been helping us out with our new school, Lumen Christi Academy.
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And one of the things that she wanted to do is she felt like we could have an outreach
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program here from the Academy where we taught good skills and we were able to evangelize.
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So she opened a sourdough bakery and it's been wonderful.
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But I think we were sharing with you earlier today, we've had people that are very interested
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But they won't come and purchase it here on the property.
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She has to drive to a church parking lot just to be able to deliver their bread.
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But at this point, she has to drive to a non-Catholic church property to deliver her bread.
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It seems incredibly insane, but that's what we've been dealing with for the last year.
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So that kind of insanity, it leaves me almost speechless.
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There could be a lot of anger associated with it because of the injustice, the gross, absolute,
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disgusting injustice toward a family of six children, toward a business run by a Catholic,
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whether he likes that kind of Catholic or not doesn't even matter.
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If you were Protestant or Jewish or anything else, this would be, why is it not an outrage for
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One of the things people would say to you, have you not sued this guy yet?
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We could either go down that road and that would consume the vast majority of our energy,
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or we needed to continue to move forward with what the Lord put in our heart, what we're
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And John Henry, I want to make sure that people know this.
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There are priests that are working here that otherwise don't have an income from any source.
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So all of those responsibilities have kind of been on the shoulders of the organization
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As we've sought the counsel of the board, we've talked to benefactors.
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Um, there are many that want us to pursue that legal action and it's still on the table,
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Uh, but for the remainder of the year, we've actually just been trying to hold on because
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we believe God's doing something incredible here.
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And, and I will tell you every moment that we get to the very last possibility, uh, God
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I mean, you had your year booked out and then you had a cancellation of everybody because
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it was ordered by the bishop, which, which it's stunning that a lot of people listen to
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that, but it goes to show when they won't come to the bread store that's here to buy
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the bread because somehow they feel that they're not allowed onto the property.
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If that can be a thing, gosh, bishops would be powerful.
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In my diocese, you can only go to, you know, the, uh, Metro store because everything else
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They could become kingpins, mafia types of some kind.
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This is what we've actually had to go through this year.
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I've had priests that are friends come to the ranch, not in any capacity.
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And the archbishop has called their bishop personally to threaten them that they're never
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Again, uh, the level of, um, angst that is there is crazy.
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Uh, it's, it's had an impact on our property insurance.
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Uh, and it is kind of like someone might be a kingpin, uh, pulling strings.
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Uh, even though we have spent the year with our head down, not making waves, not pushing
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We've just gone about the work that we've had yet, even in months of quiet, nothing
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happening, all of a sudden it'll come back out with another attack.
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Because I mean, when you get your whole main business, just canceled, like at a drop of
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a dime, most people go, we're dead, but you guys didn't do that.
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You, your wife, your six children, and all your faithful employees, uh, including some
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canceled priests have, uh, soldiered on and, uh, almost miraculously, because how else could
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We want to say thank you to everyone that, uh, participated in the life funder that you
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established really that very first month afterwards, that's what got us through.
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And so to everyone out there that supported us, we are very, very grateful.
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And then there've been benefactors that have stepped up.
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Uh, and, and quite frankly, it's been from all over the country and all over the world.
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People have stepped up and said, this isn't right.
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Uh, and so we've made some tweaks to what we're doing.
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Uh, our school, Lumen Christi Academy, our, our classical education school, uh, has taken
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People have started to come together to support those students.
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So the Lord keeps giving us the next step forward, but it's really been by his grace
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and the generosity of so many people that we're still here today.
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Give us your take on why people should give to it because people are giving from outside
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You know, I think that's, what's beautiful about the Catholic faith.
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You know, how many, how many generations gave to a cathedral that their kids were never going
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Um, so there are people that see what we're doing here at Sanctus Ranch.
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Um, they see the school, they see the facilities, they see the mission and they're saying, I want
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Uh, I want to help you guys achieve what God's placed on your heart.
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So by people doing that, we've grown the school from, we started with six.
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We look to see that going, uh, up past 50, uh, in this coming year, we're building a new
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Uh, we continue to create a place where families can come together.
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That domestic church that we're all responsible for.
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We can bring that domestic church together in events where kids are playing on the front
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Uh, people are coming together for an event that we're going to have this evening.
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It's a great opportunity for us as Christians to come together to solidify the faith.
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And so that support from all over the country allows us to do that and to be a place of refuge
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It could be families that just say, I want to be around other people that are living out
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That's what we're trying to do here at Sanctus Ranch.
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I want to end off with a challenge, a challenge to the local Catholics who are obeying the
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order not to come to Sanctus Ranch, even for buying of bread or just to stay in the facility
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to use it when their family and friends are coming over from visiting for wherever, because
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And they're not using it because they're not supposed to buy the archbishop's order.
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I hope you also did not vote for President Trump, because if you did and you know your
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archbishop hates him and would likely wish you to come to Sanctus Ranch before you voted
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You did obey that as well, because if you didn't obey that and you happened to vote for Trump,
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you went against the order in a way that's, oh my gosh, way over the top.
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Because the order for him to tell you not to vote for Trump is exactly the same as his
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order to tell you not to come and patronize a business, particularly a business with good
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folks that you know are good who have six children and then the business that they built
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Dan, I want you to know from LifeSite News, from our many, many supporters out there, we
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love you, we love what you're doing, we're amazed to see how your fidelity continues and
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your willingness to work for Christ, for his church, despite the attacks from within, are
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Thanks all of you for joining us, and we'll see you next time.