Exorcism reveals abortion key to Mexican cartel killings
Summary
Abby Johnson's story has gone around the world, and there are many people in her situation, but few that come all the way to not only conversion out of being pro-abortion or having had abortions, facing that horrific reality, but then embracing the fullness of truth in the church. Well, we ve got with us someone who has made that same journey. She had not one abortion, not two, but three abortions, and came back from there, even going into homelessness, self-destruction, where she thought her life was going to end.
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Pope Francis tells Father Juan Rivas, take him to Father Amoreth for an exorcism.
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These demons revealed we are the four demons that governed and controlled Mexico before
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We are the demons of bloodshed and human sacrifice.
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Now that the Mexican people have betrayed the woman up above, we are now on the throne
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Conversion stories, especially of those who have had abortions, are stunning.
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The story of Abby Johnson has gone around the world.
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And there are many people in her situation, but few that come all the way to not only conversion
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out of being pro-abortion or having had abortions, facing that horrific reality, but then also
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Well, we've got with us someone who has made that same journey.
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She had not one abortion, not two abortions, but three abortions, and came back from there,
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actually even went into homelessness, self-destruction, where she thought her life was going to end.
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Stay tuned for this interview on The John Henry Raston Show with Patricia Sandoval.
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Well, let's begin as we always do with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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I think our interview was nearly a decade ago on Shalom TV, on Truth and Lies, the show
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Thank you so much for all the work that you do at LifeSite, your staff.
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I have a pro-life show in Spanish on EWTN, and you guys are our number one resource that
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we go to to give pro-life news around Latin America.
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Your story has really rocked the world, but I think there's still a lot of people who
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So I want you to, if you can, give us a sort of nutshell of your story, because I want to
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tell people about your book, Transfigured, because your book tells your whole story in
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And I think it's absolutely essential reading for people, because it brings alive the, not
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only the beauty of Christ in his forgiveness, but that it can come when people have gone
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They've gone, they've basically lost their lives.
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It's never too late to seek redemption, and Christ is pursuing you.
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It's really a story about his greatness, like you mentioned, and his great mercy.
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Unfortunately, I never received any type of understanding of my faith when I was a child
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I didn't know what the virtue of chastity was as a child.
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So Planned Parenthood came to my school when I was in the sixth grade.
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And I say that I was a victim for the first time of the abortion industry when I was 12 years
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I believe that they stole and they robbed my innocence, because back in 1992, when there
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was no technology, no internet, none of that, I had a pure mindset.
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And they came in and they gave us this false education about safe sex, which does not exist.
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You know, Planned Parenthood, they need quotas.
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They need a certain amount of abortions per month because it's a blood money market.
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You know, they told us it wasn't really a baby when a woman is pregnant until five months
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And they told us it was our body, our choice if we ever found ourselves, you know, the
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And that's exactly what happened to me on three occasions.
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I thought I was practicing safe sex and it failed all three times with birth control.
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And I thought abortion was my liberation, was my way out.
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I thought abortion would save me from having all my goals and dreams just, you know, dying.
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I was one of those young girls that believed that a baby destroyed your dreams, basically.
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And, you know, when I was 12 years old, after that class, I declared myself pro-abortion.
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And they lied to me at the abortion clinic on three occasions before my three abortions
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and never told me about post-abortion syndrome.
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They told me that the only symptoms I would have would be cramping and that's it.
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I suffered even physical damage from those three abortions.
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Even my boyfriend at the time was suffering post-abortion syndrome as well.
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And I applied to work for Planned Parenthood after that, still being very pro-abortion,
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But since I knew how to speak fluent Spanish and English, they were so excited that I was
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They actually gave me the job as a back office nurse with no credentials.
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And that's where I saw the reality of abortion.
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That's where I faced my raw reality that I was lied to.
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And I had to assist the abortionist and be the abortionist's eyes because during those
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procedures, the abortionist cannot see what he is doing inside of the womb of that young
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And I had to be the abortionist's eyes and look for the body parts of the babies.
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It was heartbreaking, especially seeing the expression on those babies' faces, their mouth
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wide open, because those babies were screaming.
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Those babies were crying, but they didn't have a voice.
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And then I obviously didn't know God, so got heavily involved with methamphetamine, drugs,
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And it was thanks to my mother's prayers that somebody rescued me off the street.
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It was thanks to my mother being on her knees for three years that I'm alive today.
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It's one of those things that I think resonates with a lot of people today, because in this
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day and age, the propensity of your own children, despite your living faithfully, to leave the
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faith, to live lives that are apart from God, and sometimes very, very much apart from God,
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But that hope that you bring with your story of your mother's fervent prayers for you that
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resulted in such a miraculous rescue of you literally from the streets, from death's
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I knew that God forgave me, but I think a lot of women cannot forgive themselves, especially
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And I knew that my children ended up in a trash can.
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And it was during a retreat that I had a grace from God.
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And I actually saw my three aborted children, a little girl, a little boy, and a little girl.
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And they yelled out, mother, and God's glory, we're praying for you.
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And I do believe, John Henry, with my whole heart, that those aborted children, they pray
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And I believe that that's what my children do still.
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And that was the hope that I had during that retreat, that my children, maybe they're gone
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And so I decided to defend life with all my heart, to repair.
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It's very important we do reparation, to repair the damage that I've done, and to give
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It is a beautiful thought to consider we are honoring the lives of so many aborted
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children, millions and millions and millions, even in the United States alone, probably over
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70 million children aborted, U.S. citizens, U.S. children.
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Yes, I'm sure their blood does cry to heaven for vengeance, which the scriptures teach us,
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But I think those children also are begging for our own fidelity.
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So we have sort of an army of prayer warriors for us up there as well, especially for the
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pro-life movement, many of whom, like you, come from living the other side and know the
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horror of the other side and are basically trying to share the message of healing and
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of the true joy that comes from living a life for Christ in love with life and respecting
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I mean, we can go out there and march for life.
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But until our world heals the sexual disordered wound that we have, you know, those, abortion
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So it's just, it's, I think that to end abortion, it starts at home.
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Parents are the first educators of their children, and it really does start with the family.
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So it's really important that we show our children the virtue and the beauty of chastity.
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Let's go into that a little bit, because it's very rarely talked about that, that connection.
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And if you can tell us also with regard to what's going on in the world today, I mean,
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and television and pornography that way, obviously, but then also dating and the whole thing about
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relationships and heading toward marriage, but not married yet, and so on and so forth.
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I think the virtue that is forgotten is modesty and also chastity, both of those virtues.
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You know, it's really hard for teens to be teens today.
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Like I had mentioned, back in the 90s, we didn't have, we didn't have internet, we didn't
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And I feel that all day, every day, children are bombarded with sexual images, sexual messages
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on their computer, on their phones, on, you know, on their television screens.
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And they're just in a constant battle with these lies, you know, and what they really
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need to strengthen and to know, they need to know, are these two virtues.
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And I feel that when virtue collapse, it kind of goes into a domino effect.
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For instance, when modesty collapse, right, when a woman doesn't know how to behave purely,
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how to dress in a pure way, well, then her chastity collapse.
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When your chastity collapse, well, that can end up in an unwanted pregnancy or a pregnancy
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and crisis, and then it can end up into an abortion.
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I feel that you can't be pro-life without being pro-chastity.
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There is an interview that I read on Jason Everett.
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And he said that when he was praying in front of the abortion clinics and talking to these
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women, trying to convince them not to have an abortion, he had this feeling, this strange
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Why am I talking to this woman five minutes before her appointment?
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Why didn't I meet her maybe 10 years ago when she was in junior high or in high school?
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In order to prevent, this is a prevention, to prevent abortion, we must learn the value
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and the beauty of these two virtues, which is modesty and chastity.
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What would your description be, or how would you talk to a young woman today, young girl
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I don't know if many people talk about it at all or are willing to define it.
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What would you say to, you know, a teen, 13, 14-year-old girl about modesty?
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And I think it's because you're looking for love in the wrong places.
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And you're looking to feel loved and desired in a way that's not truth.
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I would tell her that in the eyes of God, what, you know, we're created not to glorify the world,
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But we're here to glorify God and to please our Lord.
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And, you know, the exterior is just a reflection of your interior.
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There's nothing more freeing, I could tell you, John Henry, freeing.
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Like, now that I live a modest, more modest life, that I'm teaching modesty to my children,
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there's nothing more freeing than knowing that I don't have to please anybody,
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that the only person that I need to please is God.
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And, you know, I always tell young girls that we're kind of like the monstrance that holds our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament.
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And, you know, when we look at the monstrance, they're gold and they're, you know,
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they're full of precious gems and they're sparkle because it's worthy of holding a king.
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And we need to adorn the king that we have in our hearts with respect and with dignity.
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Just the way Jesus gives women love, respect, and dignity.
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And that's what modesty to me is, is, you know,
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adorning our bodies that are temples of the Holy Spirit.
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And it's also, you know, adorning a king that is worthy to be represented in a pure way.
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That's probably one of the most powerful inducements to modesty I've ever heard in my life.
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So there is a story that is known about in Mexico that really isn't known throughout the world.
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So in all the world today, we know about Mexico and this horrible incidence of drug cartels,
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It's made Mexico into a place that's really scary to think about going to even.
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Oh, yes, we can go to the nice resorts because they're heavily guarded and protected.
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But Mexico itself and the great, you know, coming across the border and all this,
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there's so much of this violence and seeming hell going on there.
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But few people know its connection to abortion.
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So Our Lady of Guadalupe, she is the Empress of the Americas.
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She came to Mexico, to the Americas, to give a message of life when there was a culture of death.
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The Aztecs were, you know, killing and they were offering basically unborn babies
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or babies that were born to their gods, especially it's in a different dialect.
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But there was one certain god that they would offer basically fetuses to.
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And it was for the sun to come out, you know, for food to be provided and rain to come.
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I mean, per year, there was probably over 150,000 human sacrifices to this god
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She came pregnant to give, you know, a message of life to all the Aztecs.
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And I feel that it's a message not just for Mexico, but for all of us.
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He is currently possessed in the state of Michoacan, Mexico.
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In 2007, when Mexico legalized abortion just in Mexico City,
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well, this miraculous light appeared in the womb of Our Lady of Guadalupe on the tomb of Juan Diego.
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But this man was so sorrowful for this legalization of abortion that he actually offered himself as a victim's soul.
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And then he found himself possessed a couple of days after that.
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And he had gone to many exorcists in Mexico and nobody can deliver him.
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This priest, his name is Juan, Father Juan Rivas.
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And is hoping that somehow Pope Francis can, I don't know, somehow deliver him.
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But Pope Francis comes up to Angel and Angel was in his wheelchair, gives him a blessing.
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Pope Francis tells Father Juan Rivas, take him to Father Amorif for an exorcism.
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During the exorcism, there was three priests that spoke Spanish, two of them Mexican, one of them Argentinian, and Father Amorif.
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Father Amorif commanded the demons to speak in Spanish, said, I command you in the name of Guadalupe to speak in Spanish so these priests can understand what you just, what you just told me.
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She's stomping on our, on our head with her heel.
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We are the four demons that governed and controlled Mexico before the apparition in 1531.
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We are the demons of bloodshed and human sacrifice.
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Now that the Mexican people have betrayed, gives me the chills, betrayed the woman up above.
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And the Mexican people have pushed her aside, off her throne.
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And now we are ruling Mexico with violence and bloodshed.
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The lady up above is asking for three conditions from the Mexican people to end the bloodshed and the violence.
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The first one is that Mexico has to recognize publicly that abortion is a sin and it's a crime.
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So all the politicians, the president, everybody, all the Mexican nation needs to recognize publicly that abortion is a sin, condemn it, and that it's a crime.
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The second thing is that the president must consecrate Mexico to the two hearts.
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And the third thing that Mexican people, the Mexican people need to do is act of reparation and mortifications, especially the bishops and the priest and the cardinals for letting abortion come into the country.
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They basically didn't do anything to prevent it from coming.
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And these are the three conditions that the woman up above, basically related to Guadalupe, is asking of the Mexican people.
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And these demons said, if this does not happen, catastrophes will happen, earthquakes, and the violence will increase and more bloodshed.
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And they said, for every abortion that is performed in Mexico, there will be a homicide performed in the same exact manner.
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So the way that abortion is performed in Mexico City is that these babies are basically cut into pieces after the abortion.
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They're thrown into black, kind of like hefty bags, black bags, and then they're burned with acid.
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The cartel, when they kidnap and they kill, that's exactly the way they kill their victims, is in pieces and black bags and then thrown in acid as well.
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So the priest, when they went back to Mexico, they actually went over the numbers.
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And surprisingly, the numbers are actually exactly, they match hand in hand.
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The number of abortions that are documented in Mexico, it's the same amount of homicides from the cartel that are documented.
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And this poor man cannot be liberated until these three conditions are met.
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John Henry, we have done nothing that Our Lady has asked.
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As usual, I kind of feel like that's kind of, she, you know, she appears in all these different countries and eras.
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Mexico just decriminalized abortion throughout the whole country this past September.
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A big earthquake happened that same night when the Supreme Court approved this.
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The president of Mexico, he is basically, he does witchcraft.
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Every year on the news, you can watch him consecrate Mexico to his gods and has not consecrated, obviously, Mexico to the two hearts.
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I mean, we haven't done enough, you know, mortifications.
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We're not doing acts of reparations like we should be, asking Our Lady of Guadalupe to forgive us for what we've done.
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And I feel that this message is not only for Mexico.
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I feel that this message is for all of us in the United States and Canada.
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And, you know, here in the United States, we've had so much gun violence and shootings and massacres in schools.
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I feel that the root of all this violence is the abortion that has been legal in our country for many decades.
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Now, St. Teresa of Calcutta came to the U.S. to warn us that the fruit of abortion is nuclear war.
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Patricia, your story is so fascinating, but I want you to tell people where they can learn more about you, where they can pick up your book.
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It's called Transfigure or on the EWTN catalog website as well, queenofpeacemedia.com as well.
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And I have a website, patriciasandoval.com, and I have videos and you can find me on YouTube as well.
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What is your closing message for America and for the world with regard to the times we're living in?
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I feel that there's so many things that are going on in this upside down world.
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And I feel that sometimes for people, it's convenient to be quiet and different.
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And I feel that we really, really need to take courage.
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We really need to speak because we have to remember that God will hold us accountable, obviously, for the sins that we've committed.
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And we know the sins that we commit, but he will hold us accountable for the omission of sins.
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Those are the ones I'm scared of, John Henry, of the things that I did not do for God.
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And I feel that in these times where mothers and fathers, we have to remember that we've had here in the United States about 66 million abortions.
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66 million women have had abortions, but 66 million men have also had abortions.
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I worked behind the doors of Planned Parenthood.
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We are all called to do acts of reparation, to ask God to forgive us for the world that we're living in.
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And so just wanting to encourage people to persevere and to not be scared.
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Drisha Sandoval, thank you so very much for joining us.
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