FBI Terrorized Pro-life Catholic Mark Houck. Now He Is Running For Congress
Summary
On this episode of the John H.N.Wright show, my friend Mark Houck joins me to talk about his recent acquittal in the John Halliwell case, his life since being released from prison, and why he decided to run for Congress.
Transcript
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The Lord allowed me to be born in this wonderful country, and there's a degree of duty here
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that I have as an American citizen, as a Catholic Christian, to help bring about change,
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if I can, and help restore faith, family, and freedom.
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Hey, my friends. It gives me great pleasure to introduce you to my next guest, whom you all
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know very, very well. He was on this show before, and I was actually at his house before, after the
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FBI came and raided his house, guns drawn, threatening his wife, his children, and took
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him out of there in shackles. Oh, yes. None other than Mark Houck is running for Congress. And if
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anybody can go to Washington to show him how it's done and shut down those guys who did
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to him, the unconscionable, it's Mark Houck. This is the John Hennett Weston Show. Stay tuned.
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You know that here on LifeSite, we love to tell amazing stories. There are a few so heroic and
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amazing as the story we're about to tell you that's coming soon. You got to watch this.
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When I was in seminary, I was reading a book by Henry Nowen. He talked about a nuclear man,
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you know, and people who grew up in the 1980s were kind of formed by that immediate and constant
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threat of nuclear annihilation. My generation has grown up, you know, under the specter of
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priestly sexual abuse. I think that for many of us that has also been all-encompassing. You know,
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I mean, I entered the seminary in January of 2004, and it's basically been there for me from in the
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beginning. One priest's sacrifice for many priestly sins. The story of Father John Halliwell. Coming
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soon from LifeSite News. Mark Houck, so good to be with you. Good to be with you, John Henry. Thanks
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for having me. Well, let's begin as you always do with the sign of the cross. In the name of the
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Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. Wow, my friend. So good to see you. Well,
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why don't you start? Tell us what you've been up to, because this is, I think, for a lot of people,
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they haven't heard from you in a while. What have you been doing? Ever since the acquittal,
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we've been extremely busy as a family and traveling, sharing our story. People want to hear the story of
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what happened, which that you alluded to. And I'm amazed at how many people don't even know what
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happened around the country. So many do, but so many don't know, and they really don't know the
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details. And so people are being enamored by the story and telling it and retelling it and
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convicted by it. It's very compelling. We've been on the road a lot as a family. And actually,
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back in early January, before my trial, people started to encourage me to run for office.
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I quickly dismissed it. I was not that interested. But then more and more people of influence,
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people that I highly respected said, you might consider this. This might be something to pray
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about. And so there were so many of them. And of course, I went to the State of the Union. I met
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some wonderful people in Washington, D.C. Congressman Scott Perry invited me. These men also
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influenced me, like Jim Jordan, Chip Roy. These guys that are men of integrity, Mike Johnson,
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who I've known for a while, started to influence me. So we took it to prayer. And this past month of
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July, we went to St. Pio. We pulled out the special forces and we went to St. Pio because he was all
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about Catholics voting. And I thought, you know, this would be a good one. And we asked for a clear
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sign, clear signs, plural, that we should do this. And we got those signs. I don't really have the time
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to get into it, but I could get into it, that God wanted us to at least run. And so we put our hat in
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the ring. We made a left and went right into Jerusalem from the upper room. And we're in the
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fray. And now we're running for Congress. So we're still a missionary guy. We're still mission-oriented
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with the king's men. I can still do that. But now I'm also doing this side hustle, which is run for
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Congress. Tell us one of those signs, just ones that really got to you, where you knew our Lord
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was moving you to go forward with this. So I was down for the last month, from June 27th to July 28th,
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I was on the road with the family. We basically left Pennsylvania, went down to Florida, made our way
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back. And then we went back again via airplane. But in the first leg of that, the first half, I double
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booked myself. I was booked for a speaking engagement here in Philadelphia, but I was in
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Georgia. So I left the family and flew home, left them in Atlanta at a hotel with some decent food,
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and came home for that speaking engagement. And at that speaking engagement, this was right in the
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middle of the novena, the man that I was right next to, who I would be sitting next to at a Legatus
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event, started talking about the incumbent that I would be that I was considering going up against
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just out of the blue, and actually starts talking about his older brother, who was a former congressman
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as well. And I said, Well, why did you why did you bring that up? And he said, I don't know, I just I
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just felt like I should. I'm like, because we weren't talking politics at all, right? It was nothing.
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And I said, Well, I'm actually considering running against Brian. And he said, Well, that's interesting.
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So it's just one of those things where it was like, and then, of course, there was a lot of
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fruit from that conversation. But just that it was like, no one knew there was no I didn't share
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this with anybody that I was even considering this. And just out of the blue that this man starts
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bringing up the exact guy that I'm going to be running against. And, and I, it was just so random
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and unmistakably random that I thought, Okay, Lord, that could be one of those signal graces there.
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And it was my wife was receiving similar kind of confirmations like that. And she shared with me
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when I came back to Atlanta that that as well. So it kind of bolstered the resolve. We weren't
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committed just yet at that point. But we felt like, All right, we're getting some signs here.
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It's always great to hear how the Lord directs us because I think hearing the actual stories makes
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a big difference so that people can recognize in their own lives, when our Lord is speaking,
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because it's, it's a hard thing nowadays, not a lot of people just aren't paying attention. And
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maybe our Lord has to use bigger hammers to knock us on the head with. But that was great with you.
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So you're a pro-life activist, you are a Catholic man who's already involved with the Catholic
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ministry. I know this because I ran for office for three times, actually, your case is different,
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though. Because whereas when I ran for office, everybody knew I wasn't going to get elected.
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This was way back. This was some, sheesh, nearly 30 years ago. But ran for a pro-life party with a
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pro-life platform. They've never been elected. They've never had one person elected. But the
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whole reason why was to run so that you can spread the message for life, for family, for faith,
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for culture. In going in, I know you can do all that. Except in your case, there is a real chance
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you have stunned America with what happened to you and the grace with which you dealt with it,
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not only you, but your whole family. You have made an impression on the hearts of Americans because
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they are stunned to learn that their own government agency is going after what should be the most
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upstanding citizens. I want, I'm trying not to flatter you too much so you don't need to cover
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your ears. But I mean, you're a model of model families. When I went, was graced to visit you and
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your family. I was so moved. You're a man of great integrity of honor. You're everything Americans
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should want America to be. So I have great hopes that you will get elected. Now, what's it in your
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mind? I know the discernment process, but where are your thoughts going with what you think you can do
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with this? You feel you're called to run, I'm sure, to spread the message. But what else?
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We're not abandoning our faith or our ministry. And I don't think anyone would accuse me of that.
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But some might question, like, why would you leave your ministry? You know, you're touching souls,
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you're saving souls. And, you know, that's a good question. And frankly, there might be a superior
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call here in the moment because the republic is falling apart. And the Lord allowed me to be born
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in this wonderful country. And I was reflecting on George Washington, you know, this week. And just
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as I knew these questions would come. And, you know, George Washington, our nation was founded on
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his character. And, you know, he didn't want to be president, but he knew it was his duty. And he didn't
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even want a second term, but he knew it was his duty. And so there's a degree of duty here that I
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have as an American citizen, as a Catholic Christian, to help bring about change if I can. If I am able
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to bring about change and help restore faith, family, and freedom, and that's kind of like the
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slogan for the campaign, right? Restoring faith, family, and freedom. If I have the ability to do that
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and I neglect that, or I refuse to do that, then I will be held accountable for it. So I have a duty
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to pursue this to the degree that I can. And the first reason we want to go is because we want to
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protect every American citizen from what happened to me happening to them, right? We're going to DC
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so that this doesn't happen to them. And that's fundamental. And of course, that goes right down to
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the micro level of my first district, right? Pee everybody in my district. And so we know we can
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do something good there because we're bringing the narrative to DC and they can't run from it.
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If I'm in Congress and I'm there, they're not going to be able to run from the weaponization of the
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government because I will always be there in their face. And so they couldn't do congressional
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testimony. They won't be able to do it if I'm allowed to Congress in 2024. So we know we're going
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to change that way. It's just, again, it's going to continually be there. But to a larger extent,
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you know, we have dot return or a row of return jobs, and we have a presidential administration
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that wants to appeal that or bolster abortion on a federal level. It's going to be there to
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fight that and protect what we've already achieved, the accomplishment of the pro-life.
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But we also need to continue to fight what is now like currently at the core step, the clear and
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present. We just had the vote in our district by my congressman for abortion funding in the military.
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Even though abortion isn't really supported at a federal level, it's now we got all this being
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pushed on our military. And so my congressman who I voted for, who is my incumbent that I'm against,
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he's all about. So we got to continue to be vigilant on the cultural life issues, the cultural life
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issues. So, you know, and there's so much more we can talk about, but those come to mind.
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Take a look at this. This is Cardinal Burke talking in 2017 about demonic forces entering
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the church at that time in 2017. Hard to believe that's so long ago. This was given at Rome Life
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Forum, a conference that LifeSite has been running since 2014, actually. Do you know that we're running
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another one this year, October 31st and November 1st? That is right at the end of this horrific
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synod on synodality. October 31st, November 1st, 2023. Come join us in Rome. Go to RomeLifeForum.com
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for more information. Watch Cardinal Burke give this snippet on demonic forces entering into the
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Vatican from his talk at Rome Life Forum in 2017. It seems clear from the most respected studies of
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the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima that it has to do with the diabolical forces unleashed upon the
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world in our time and entering into the very life of the church. For the recovery of peace will be a
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gift from heaven. But it is not properly speaking the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary,
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her victory is of another order, supernatural, and then temporal by addition. It will first be
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the victory of the faith, which will put an end to the time of apostasy and the great shortcomings of
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the church's pastors. One of the things that is going on is not only is abortion being perpetrated in the
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United States where, you know, little American children are being massacred every day to the tune
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of, you know, 100,000 a day. You're actually exporting abortion and the whole LGBT agenda all
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around the world at the taxpayer expense. So this is Americans funding the pushing of abortion
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overseas to countries which really don't want it. But they're being told, we'll give you money
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if you do, but none if you don't. Your take on that?
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Defund all overseas funds. You know, once our newly elected president gets, he'll defund that too.
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And that'll be the thing. He'll sign that Mexico City policy. But yeah, if it's not, you know,
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we have to continually fight and be vigilant on the front and be a leader in that area. And so my
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faith will inform, as it always is. And I don't think most of our congressional leaders are as well
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informed on the life issue, because I spent my whole life in the pro movement. So we'll bring that,
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we'll educate other congressional leaders and senatorial people in that way.
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You know, it really has filled the cultural space. And therefore, it's in the minds of Americans
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right now, is the whole, I call it the alphabet people, but the whole LGBT thing. And right now,
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the transgender movement is just going nuts. Now, what is happening, of course, is that, you know,
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children's locker rooms, not only children, girls locker rooms, but women's locker rooms everywhere
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are being invaded by men. And then there's occasion when there's abuse that happens that way and all
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sorts of nonsense. But this is being allowed. And then in addition to that, you have whatever became
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of women's sports, weightlifting champion, the boxing champion, the wrestling champion, the running
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champion. This is all men now who are masquerading again as women. And yet this is rife, not only culture,
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but it's in the United States and being talked about in parliament, excuse me, in your Congress
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with seemingly very few voices of sanity in there. What's your sort of plan for addressing some of
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that? Well, we need legislation that is going to protect not only those girls, but, you know,
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all sports and vice versa, you know, even, I'm not saying there's an infiltration of girls into
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boys sports, but, but we need to, we need to have the girls protected. And I met Scott Smith down at
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the Loudoun County father whose daughter was raped in school. I met him at the state of the union and I
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looked in his eyes. And so we need that legislation that's going to protect his daughter, right. And,
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and my daughters. And, and so we need sanity. We need common sense. I think when it comes to the
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transgender issue, there's a lot of confusion. Look, as a, as a guy in ministry, I, I can, I have
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to look at it through the lens of woundedness and people who are hurting and people who are identifying
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with this agenda and, and giving themselves purpose in that regard. And so I have great compassion. It's
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not misplaced. I need to be able to approach these matters, knowing that there's great sensitivity
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there at the same time, educating and helping people and fellow legislators understand where
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this comes from, that people aren't born this way, that there's no science that backs this up.
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That's contrary to the creative wisdom of God. Pope Benedict said that when he was Cardinal Ratzinger,
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prefect for the doctrine of the faith, this is contrary to the creative wisdom of God. So look,
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we need to acknowledge that and, and do it in a way that makes sense. It's logical. And, and that we
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recognize that if we continue to support policies like this, it's going to bring a whole world of
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other problems and, and other issues and all sorts of dysphoria that that's going to come in other and
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new and disgusting ways. So I hope to bring that logic, that faith and reason to the Hill in that
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regard. You've got a large family. Your wife is supporting what you're doing. Praise God for that.
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Because it's a, it's a hard thing to know that you already have a super busy ministry to know that
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you're going to be spending a lot of time in, in, uh, in Washington. That's a, that's a hard thing to
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swallow. What, what did your, what's your, been your wife sort of taken all of this? Well, again,
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she was invited into that prayer and discernment too. So, you know, she knows that, that this is
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an invitation and a call that she has to accept. It's kind of like a diaconate, you know, like
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the wife has to be supportive. If she's not, forget it. It's not going to work. It's just
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going to drive a wedge between you and her. And, uh, and that's not going to be good for your
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marriage. So my wife and I, we need to pray even more. We need to be praying more. We need to be
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getting up earlier and praying and having that time together. I know I'm going to be in the district,
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in my district, at least two days a week and probably down in DC, uh, three days a week. So that's
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going to be tough. So maybe we need to consider, you know, it doesn't make sense to like Josh Hawley.
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He's a good guy. He moved his whole family to, to Virginia, Virginia area or Maryland. I forget
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where he is. And those are things to consider. Um, I think initially we will see how it goes.
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I'm not that far from DC, so I can take a train. If I, if I need to be home, I need to be home quickly.
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Uh, I can get on a flight. So I'm not like living in Missouri or Utah. Uh, so hopefully that'll work
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better for us. Uh, but you know what? It's kind of unknown, John Henry. I don't know what that's
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going to look like. And, uh, after two years, I may say, you know, we've done as much as we can do
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for, we need to protect the family, but hopefully, you know, we, we got the, the grace to sustain us
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for longer than that, if necessary. Now you will be probably one of the only, uh, perhaps there might
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be another one or two, but Congressman who actually actively goes outside of abortion clinics,
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abortion where is to pray, to, uh, put yourself there to offer women help. It's an amazing witness.
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I would think to, to people who were there, any thoughts about that intimidation you might have
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or anything like that that's crossed your mind on that, on that score.
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I was there yesterday. Right. So I was at my post for four hours prior to the announcement. And I
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actually thought about that, John Henry. I actually thought like, am I going to continue this? And I
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thought, well, why wouldn't I, I might just have to pick a different day, but why wouldn't I continue
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it? It's who I am. It's part of who I am. And I think it's, it's important to stay in touch with,
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with those realities and, uh, I'm good at it. So why should I give it up? Right. I'm going to continue
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to be dad. I'm going to continue to be husband, all these sub vocation, like, you know, being an
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activist and ministry guy, you know, they're all important to me. So I can still volunteer to go
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lead a retreat as a Congressman. Like I can still do evangelization. Um, you know, it may not be as
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much as I do now, but I'll be evangelizing. I can picture myself pulling the Josh Hollies of the
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world and the Jim Jordan's in for a faith formation meeting in my office, you know, before we begin
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our day. So we'll just take everything there. Uh, and we'll, we'll, we'll do it there, you know,
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and, and we'll start to build brotherhood there. So, um, and I already have some of that, but, uh,
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but we'll have more of it. And so I don't think it's going to change for me. I just might have to
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perilous time. May God bless you. Tell us before we go on, where can people find out, uh, about your
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campaign and how can people support it? Cause I know these things don't come for nothing. There's, uh,
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lots of money that needs to be raised. Um, and, uh, they do get tax breaks for doing that. So tell
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us where we can go. Yeah, sure. So we just launched the website yesterday. So bear with us if there's
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any hiccups and it's not that robust yet, but there's enough there. Go to Halk, H-O-U-C-K
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for congress.com. That's Halk for congress.com. And there's a donate button there. There's a volunteer
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button if anyone wants to get involved in the campaign, but Halk for congress.com will have the
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ability to bring people to our platform, see some of the pictures of our family and see kind of where
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we're going with the campaign and donate if they'd like to. Please do. So this is Bucks County,
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Pennsylvania. And I know, uh, you know, people can donate to it, which would be great. You got to get
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a lot of people. If you know them in Bucks County or that surrounding area, call them. You got to reach
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out because this is very serious. If we've ever had an opportunity to have great people in Congress,
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we've had none like this. I really, really encourage people, not only if you live there,
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but if you're anywhere in and around there, you know, someone there, you got to pick up the phone
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and make that call. Any final thoughts for us, uh, in terms of what your future is and, uh, what, uh,
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what you're hoping for America? Yeah. You know, some people have asked me, you know, what, what,
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what, what is it that's different about you? And, um, I was just on a program where they said
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anomalies beat incumbents. And I guess I'm sort of an anomaly. I don't know with the guy that's
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getting rated now. He's, he's going to go work for the, uh, for the, uh, for the company that rated
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him. But, uh, nonetheless, uh, you know, I'm a former football player. I played college football and
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it's really part of who I am. Just that identity as, as, as an athlete, a student athlete, a kid that,
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you know, really understood what it meant to sacrifice to help his team win. And, uh, and it
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wasn't always all about winning, uh, but we certainly understood sacrifice. I played defensive
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back, which is in the, the, the defensive side, the last man on the defense was the free safety.
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And that was me. And so I had the chance to back up everybody to support everybody to be the last
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line of defense. And I think what it taught me and what it will help influence me as I move into
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this, you know, new call in my life, uh, is that I can, I know when to be aggressive and I know when
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to back off. I know what I got to fight for and I know when to live, to fight another day. And, and
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so I think being a football player of all things that you weren't expecting me to say has, it will
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really positively influence how we navigate, you know, I hate to say it, but the swamp, as they say,
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how we navigate the Washington DC and, and the, and the pitfalls that are going to be there for me
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and the minds that I might step on, we're going to really need to have that wisdom. We're going to
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really need to have that prudence of Solomon where like, I know not how to lead in this way,
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Lord, give me the prudence and the wisdom. And I think I'm going to leverage that time as a,
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as a football player, uh, as I need to watch and observe and attack when is necessary and, uh,
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and, and stay back when I have to. So that'll be a, a sure guide for me. And of course my faith,
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you know, my faith, the sacred deposit is going to be my perfect guide as I move forward with these,
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uh, important decisions for the country and the world.
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It is an honor to speak with you, an honor for you to have you come on and, uh, you know,
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make public your campaign here. And I hope that many, many people, uh, go to support you and,
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uh, they can do that right now at hug for Congress, H O U C K for Congress.com. Thank you so much,
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And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.
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