The John-Henry Westen Show - FOR SALE： The Surprising Way Terry Barber Saved A Catholic Church

00:00:00.000 It made me so mad I told him to get out of my building. I said, if you can't understand that

00:00:05.920 abortion is murder, then I don't want to talk to you. Get out. 1.00

00:00:16.340 Hey, my friends. I am so glad to bring you a real hero of mine. His name is Terry Barber.

00:00:24.140 Everybody knows the CDs that you had. Okay. In years gone by, we had these CDs always at the back of the

00:00:31.700 churches. They were awesome. They led you to real faith because they were hardcore. They give you

00:00:37.100 the truth when you couldn't get it anywhere else. And there was these awesome CDs in the back of

00:00:41.660 almost every church. This is the man responsible. I'm going to introduce you to him in just a second.

00:00:47.560 But we're here actually to talk about a project that he's been into now for some time.

00:00:51.820 It's a project that you really need to take a serious look at for copying yourselves.

00:00:59.120 That's going to sound hard and weird because it's about the purchase of a church. You know how all

00:01:04.680 these churches are closing? People are using them for bars and whatever else. Terry's rescued a church

00:01:11.040 and there's a real thing you can do with that. You're going to be fascinated by what's already

00:01:17.360 been done and what a great miracle has occurred because Terry Barber has purchased this church

00:01:23.840 right behind us. This is the John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned.

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00:03:38.820 We have amazing stained glass windows, the woodwork you couldn't build today. That's what

00:03:43.120 the contractors tell me. And we have lots of masses. We have the Anglican Ordinariate Mass.

00:03:49.160 We have the Melkite Mass. We also have the Melkite Mass. We have the Latin Mass. We have lots

00:03:59.000 of types of masses here because this church is being used quite a bit. We have over 200 funerals

00:04:04.380 a year here. And right now we have a men's conference, a couple hundred men here. And

00:04:08.920 so we are very busy here. And I'm going to tell you outside to the church how this church

00:04:14.500 was saved from the wrecking ball. You won't want to miss that. All these stained glass windows

00:04:18.320 just jump out at you. And as you know, we should all have a devotion to the guardian angel.

00:04:23.740 We always say the unemployment rate for guardian angels is way too high. So put them to work.

00:04:28.860 And so that stained glass window reminds us that we're living in the presence of God with our

00:04:33.560 guardian angel. We have so many other stained glass windows. Our Lady of Grace is here. And

00:04:39.240 this chapel was devoted to the sacred heart of Jesus. And the rocks that were on this rock were

00:04:46.560 brought down on horseback from the San Gabriel Mountains. It's just an amazing story of how this

00:04:51.460 church was built. And now we're passing it on to the next generation. So we're just delighted

00:04:56.720 that we have this here and that we're using it for the honor and glory of God.

00:05:01.600 Is all of basically the structure and the things original still? Or did you put in a whole bunch

00:05:07.260 of stuff?

00:05:07.520 I did not want to make it a historic monument because then they will control you, the city.

00:05:13.000 Everything is original. We just spend lots of money restoring the wood with refinishing it.

00:05:18.960 We also added communion rails. We redid the altars with marble. Yeah, we have ad oriental masses. 1.00

00:05:25.520 As you can see, we don't have a freestanding altar and we still have the altar stone. And when you hear

00:05:31.660 how we bought this church, you're going to be amazed when we come a little later.

00:05:36.180 One of the most beautiful things about this place is that it was used during COVID and during the

00:05:41.660 lockdown. The most beautiful thing is while all the world or most of the world was deprived of the

00:05:47.500 holy sacrifice of the mass here. Thanks to Terry and his team who were working to make this available,

00:05:54.900 Catholics were fed the body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. 0.97

00:05:58.120 John Henry, I can tell you stories of people crying, coming into this church and praying before

00:06:02.620 the blessed sacrament. And they said to me, I haven't been to church in months. And I'm just so

00:06:07.120 thankful that this church is open. We had confessions going on with priests and we had

00:06:12.720 people coming 400 miles one way just to go to confession. And we did it all day long. And of

00:06:19.120 course we paid a price because the county tagged us. But you know what I say? So what? We need to

00:06:25.500 stand for Christ. We can't have this idea that they're going to close our churches because of

00:06:30.700 something like COVID. I mean, we're more afraid of, we're more xenophobic than COVID-a-phomic. 0.99

00:06:37.340 Whatever. The point of it is, we opened up the churches, John, and we're going to do that.

00:06:41.980 If it happens again, let them take us out. We're going to keep it open. Amen. Right here in California.

00:06:48.560 So unreal. So we're going to go outside again so that because the men's conference is going on

00:06:53.640 and here they come. I can't do it. So we'll back to you soon.

00:06:58.360 Let's begin as we always do at the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father and of the Son

00:07:04.740 and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. So Terry, tell us, what is this all about? You bought a church?

00:07:12.400 I did, Henry, John Henry. But I have to tell you, it was God who intervened in this church.

00:07:18.660 This was a chapel that was originally built in 1911. You can see the stone there. It was the

00:07:24.060 original Catholic church in downtown Covina. And in the 1970s, they closed it because they built a

00:07:30.460 big church here in Covina called Sacred Heart. It holds a thousand people. So they really pretty

00:07:35.920 much just closed the chapel for years. And then there was a group of people who wanted to have

00:07:43.120 masses here. And the pastor said, no, we're going to sell it. And we're going to use the money to build

00:07:47.300 a new hall. So my brother was on the financial committee at the church. And when he said they

00:07:56.160 were wanting to sell the church, I thought, well, maybe we're interested in it. So how much?

00:08:00.400 It was a half a million dollars, which wasn't a lot of money back 25 years ago, but we got the houses

00:08:05.820 and we got the church. And it was in terrible shape. So we were able to restore it with earthquake

00:08:11.560 readiness, retrofitting. We restored the stained glass windows and the rest. So what was happening

00:08:18.300 is at that time, it was kind of delicate because St. Joseph Communications, who I founded, as you

00:08:25.220 know, we're putting out CDs with Lighthouse and St. Joe. I had to put an offer on the church when by

00:08:33.880 name. And I knew that Cardinal Mahoney wouldn't want that because of my connection with Mother Angelica

00:08:39.700 and other people. Wait, wait, wait, just before we go on, what do you mean by that? How did Cardinal

00:08:45.120 Mahoney know? I'll tell you this, this is going to be news for everybody. But in, but 1998, my good

00:08:50.580 friend, Mother Angelica, who was close to me, I mean, she was an inspiration for me. And she called and

00:08:58.540 said, Terry, I know that Cardinal Roger Mahoney is putting out a document called Faithfully, We Faithfully

00:09:04.600 Gather. It's a document on the Holy Eucharist. And I would like you to overnight that document

00:09:10.300 immediately from the diocesan newspaper. Being an obedient son, I said, yes, Mother. And I did.

00:09:17.640 And that night she went on television. Well, what happened is this? Mother Angelica knew about

00:09:23.720 Cardinal Mahoney. And she really, I mean, she's been out to our place here in Southern California

00:09:27.920 for our conferences. So we've got a relationship since 1980 when they first started. And so Mother

00:09:35.720 called me through Deacon Bill Stoltmeyer. He was the deacon that was Mother's right-hand man. You

00:09:40.020 remember those days. And so I said, okay, if Mother said to do it, Mother said it, I'm an obedient son.

00:09:46.620 I overnighted the tidings, which is a diocesan newspaper. And the whole document was there.

00:09:53.180 Well, when she read it, that was the night. And it's, anybody can go on YouTube and watch what she

00:09:59.360 said. But she basically went after Cardinal Mahoney and saying, this is heresy. Christ is not present

00:10:06.120 in the bread. You know, this has been going on with songs in our church. But the bottom line is,

00:10:11.760 when Mother exploded on that, somehow, and I don't know how, I really don't, Cardinal Mahoney

00:10:19.780 found out that I was the culprit who sent that document to Mother. I don't know how that happened.

00:10:24.920 So he sent me a letter in 1998. I have the letter. I can prove it, what he said. He said that canon law

00:10:31.920 requires that you turn St. Joseph Communications over to the Diocese of Los Angeles. At the time,

00:10:39.460 we were the largest distributor of cassette tapes, you know, and we had Bishop Sheen. We had all the good

00:10:45.960 guys. Well, Father Benedict Rochelle, God rest his soul. He was a friend of mine. He found out that

00:10:54.340 Cardinal Mahoney was trying to put some pressure on me. So I faxed the letter to him. He got Count Caponi,

00:11:03.100 a canon lawyer in Rome, to defend me. I was like, wow, this is getting interesting.

00:11:11.140 Oh, wow. So then he wrote a letter for me as my representative and said, Your Eminence,

00:11:19.420 this is a great letter. He says, could you tell me what canon you're referring to that says Mr.

00:11:25.160 Barber needs to turn his apostolate over to you? Basically, that was the letter. And of course,

00:11:31.640 I never heard another thing about it. And Raymond Arroyo, when he wrote the book on Mother Angelica,

00:11:37.120 asked if he could put that in the book. And I said, I prefer not to. I have to live with the man.

00:11:42.340 So that's the story. So I said to my wife, my bride of 35 years, I said, honey, you know,

00:11:49.440 we can put another buyer in that the cardinal wouldn't know by name, and then we'll just

00:11:55.800 transfer the deed after that. And she said, no, we're not going to do that, Terry. Oh, my wife,

00:12:00.900 what? She says, what we're going to do is ask the angels to protect us in purchasing this church

00:12:08.020 so the cardinal would never know who bought it. And because they asked me to send my catalog from

00:12:13.320 St. Joseph Communications, a bio of all about who I am, because they wanted to know. And what's

00:12:19.800 interesting is we closed the escrow and the real estate representative for the diocese called and

00:12:26.180 said, hey, the boss wants to see who bought the church because I can't find the documents you

00:12:31.680 sent me. Can you send them to me again? And remember, my wife said the angels would make

00:12:37.540 them live. They did that. So the bottom line is, yes, we bought the church. We restored it.

00:12:43.220 We put communion rails back in. We redid the flooring. We did all kinds of work to make it restored

00:12:50.740 to its original sign. You see the doors are all repainted and sanded and new roof. Put central

00:12:58.680 air conditioning for our conferences for all the things that we do. I mean, there's 200 funerals

00:13:03.320 a year, 250 sometimes, almost one every day. And this is a great tool to think about this for people

00:13:10.440 who are thinking about buying a church. We've got the model to be able to raise the funds to justify

00:13:18.540 buying the church. And I'll tell you why, John Henry. When you can offer funerals to

00:13:25.100 funeral homes, they pay a stipend to come use your services. That's our biggest fundraiser for

00:13:32.540 Virgin Most Powerful Radio. So I want to encourage people if they want to contact me about how we did

00:13:38.300 it in detail. I'm okay if I give my cell phone. I give it out on the radio. It's 661-972-7872.

00:13:46.060 You can call me. I'll encourage you because there's so many churches, as you said, that are going to be

00:13:51.100 sold to Protestants, Muslims, other religions. We don't want to see that. Not to mention bars and 1.00

00:13:56.860 discotheques. I didn't even. Yes. And I have to go back to this church. If you notice the rock behind

00:14:01.260 me, those rocks were taken from the San Gabriel Mountains, probably 10 miles north of us. They

00:14:08.300 were brought back on horse-drawn buggies. No cars back then. And the people who made the sacrifice

00:14:16.380 to build this church, it's huge. And I just think that we as Catholics have this apostolic succession

00:14:23.900 in our minds. Our church goes back to the time of Christ. So this church, 100 years from now,

00:14:29.980 please God, people will continue to be going to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. They'll be making

00:14:35.020 visits to the Blessed Sacrament. They'll be going to confession. And there's one other thing I want

00:14:39.340 to recommend to people who are thinking about buying a church. You've got the Anglican Ordinariate

00:14:43.900 growing like a weed. They need places. You've got the TLM Mass. They need a place. So I just say this,

00:14:51.420 God gave me the resources to borrow on my rental property. And through the grace of God, we did.

00:14:57.020 And now we have this beautiful chapel for 25 years. And thousands of people are coming each month,

00:15:03.180 just through funerals, not to include the retreats, the conferences that we have here. So God is really

00:15:09.820 using this. And I think nothing good about me. It's just that this is something that even a guy like me

00:15:16.540 can do. And it basically takes someone who says, look, I want to preserve our faith. And right now,

00:15:25.340 in the church, this is a crisis mode. I want you, our listeners here right now, to think about what

00:15:30.940 is God calling you to do? You have resources. You can't take it with you. I know that for a fact.

00:15:36.220 I got hundreds of funerals here. Not one dude took it with him. So if you've got the resources to save

00:15:42.140 some churches, I'll give you one other story. In Chicago, it's called Gary, Indiana Diocese,

00:15:48.780 they sold 60 parishes. Mike Wick, friend of mine, he was the one who instrumentally sold them. He tried

00:15:54.300 to keep them at least to Protestant churches, not Islam. But they were giving these churches away,

00:16:00.460 like 10, $20,000. Now we paid a half a million dollars. We're in Southern California, 25 years ago.

00:16:06.540 This is millions of dollars today. But I guarantee you, we have listeners right now are in a situation

00:16:12.700 where the church is not being used. And I would encourage you sincerely consider purchasing the

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00:17:04.460 needs in this perilous time. May God bless you. Now, Cardinal Mahoney, uh, he, if I was walking

00:17:14.940 somewhere and he saw me, he would walk the other way because, uh, we never did see eye to eye and he

00:17:21.500 did everything he could to undermine, you know, what we were doing in the diocese. And so I'll give you

00:17:27.180 one more story that I don't, never one's ever heard this story, but they wrote a letter to me saying that

00:17:32.460 the Cardinal wants to investigate you. And I thought about what, you know, but fine. So

00:17:39.660 Michael Downey, I still know the name. This is 20 some years ago. He's the, he was the, the lay

00:17:45.500 theologian for Cardinal Mahoney. And he had some questions to ask me. Well, I had purchased also a

00:17:51.980 commercial building off Interstate 10 where 270,000 cars drive by, uh, every day. And it was our bookstore.

00:17:59.900 And we also had a little room there that was for conferences. So I met him at the bookstore.

00:18:05.820 And, uh, if you guys haven't noticed, I'm not six foot five, I'm five foot four. I'm a little guy.

00:18:11.260 And when Michael Downey came to visit with me, he, I set a table up and we, he decided to ask me some

00:18:17.500 tough questions. He said, the Cardinal's concerned that you're pre-Vatican too. And I said, well, is the

00:18:23.820 Bible pre-Vatican too? You gotta remember, I wrote a book called how to share your faith with anyone.

00:18:28.220 He who asks questions has control. So I just started firing away. And when I, I, uh, I pointed

00:18:35.740 out, I said in this bookstore, there's hundreds of books. Would you show me one book that's not

00:18:41.180 consistent with the perennial teachings of the church and I'll burn it right now. And he went, oh, no.

00:18:48.780 Uh, so now I hesitate to tell the rest of the story because it's a little embarrassing, but

00:18:55.340 all for God's glory, because we stood up for the truth. Michael Downey started telling me that we're

00:19:02.140 concerned about your position on the pro-life issues. And I said, really? Tell me. He says, well,

00:19:09.420 you have the idea that abortion is always wrong, always. And as a theologian, and I have a PhD,

00:19:18.540 I'm Dr. Michael Downey. Okay. Uh, we still have a debate about, you know, when life begins

00:19:26.860 theologically. So I stood up and I won't repeat what I said because I had to go to confession.

00:19:34.620 I'm just being honest with you guys. I got lower nature. It made me so mad. I told him to get out

00:19:38.940 of my building. I said, if you can't understand that abortion is murder, then I don't want to talk

00:19:45.500 to you. Get out. Now, I apologize because I lost my cool. But when you start talking about abortion 0.98

00:19:52.940 as being open, I mean, that's over the top. A year later, I was at the religious ed Congress.

00:19:57.820 You guys copy it. You talk all about. And I see Michael Downey there. So I went over to him to shake

00:20:03.980 his hand because I'm not a vindictive person. I wanted to apologize to him. Say, you know, I'm sorry,

00:20:10.380 I got angry, but Michael, you can't say that to me about the innocent life. I'm not going to take

00:20:14.940 that. Well, as soon as I said hello to him and I put my hand out, he wouldn't shake my hand.

00:20:21.740 And he said, um, okay, because I wanted to apologize. I lost my temper with him.

00:20:28.460 And he said to me, and so I said to him, well, Michael, what you been up to?

00:20:32.620 And he said, well, I'm writing another book. And he was some esoteric book. And I said,

00:20:38.060 Michael, I'm sure I'm that's way over my head because I'm just a simple soul.

00:20:42.940 You know, your books are probably way over my theological head. And he looked at me and he said,

00:20:48.620 you're anything but simple. And then walked away at the religious ed never to talk to me again.

00:20:54.860 The bottom line is this. Why do I tell this story? I don't normally tell these stories,

00:20:58.380 John Henry, but we laity. What did Fulton Sheen say in 1973? Who's going to save the church?

00:21:05.260 We lay people have to stand up with clarity and charity tied into the church, tied into our

00:21:10.380 apostolic work. I'm not afraid to speak the truth in season and out. And this is why we have this

00:21:17.420 chapel here right now. The men are being fed orthodoxy. They're manly men here talking about

00:21:23.660 get out there and live your faith. Be the man of the house. Be the man that leads your family to

00:21:29.820 Christ. And so again, getting back to a pitch that says, you are listener. I know you can buy churches

00:21:38.780 right now. They're being sold to our Protestant brothers. I understand that. And not even to them, 1.00

00:21:44.620 to Islam or to the bars. We need people that have the resources. And guys, as old as I am,

00:21:51.980 most of us have resources to purchase these churches. And again, if you're hesitant about

00:21:57.500 how do I make it funded? Well, I can tell you exactly. We got good funding from funerals,

00:22:02.460 quinceañeras, not weddings, but I should say we used to, but only the Catholic weddings.

00:22:07.900 So, I just want to encourage people to step out and be bold right now because the church needs all of

00:22:14.780 us to stand up for Christ in a world that acts like God doesn't exist. Tell us about some of the

00:22:20.380 stories. You have some incredible stories of people who have been affected. How long have

00:22:27.020 you had this church? 25 years now. 25 years. Wow. It's at a time when you didn't sort of think

00:22:35.420 about that need. Nowadays, it makes so much sense. You were set up for COVID like nobody else.

00:22:41.420 We were. Well, here's what happened. I'm on Virgin Most Powerful Radio with my brother, Jesse.

00:22:46.220 And we were not, we were like LifeSite News. We got kicked off of YouTube because we didn't buy it.

00:22:52.140 Okay. It wasn't right. And that what's most important is the salvation of a soul in our body

00:22:56.700 anyway. So, what we did is we advertised that we would not close our doors. And people came flocking

00:23:04.780 every day to make visits to the Blessed Sacrament. We had masses quietly being done. I didn't advertise

00:23:11.340 the mass. But I said, we're not going to close our doors. And then we organized confessions

00:23:17.260 on Saturdays from 9 in the morning to 5 in the afternoon. Every Saturday, we had Norbertine

00:23:24.380 priests. I won't say all the priests that came, but people came within over 400 miles one way to go

00:23:29.740 to confession. They were that hungry, John Henry. And if we didn't have this church here to do it,

00:23:35.740 you know, we couldn't have done it. Now, I must admit, we're in LA County. It's

00:23:39.100 highly regulated. 10 million people live here. So, we got word that we're being fined

00:23:45.260 for doing that. John Henry can't take it with us. Now, I'm proud of our Protestant brothers at

00:23:53.660 John, that Lighthouse, excuse me, that LifeSite News spoke about where they did the same thing.

00:24:01.100 But we were the only Catholic Church in Southern California that didn't close our churches.

00:24:06.620 Think of the souls that were touched to get the Sacrament of Confession. Some of those people died,

00:24:11.900 but they had confession before they died. Now, I have one other quick story. There's so many. We do

00:24:16.860 Bible studies here. Matter of fact, every Tuesday, we have a convert course. This is exciting, folks,

00:24:23.340 for me. We take Bishop Sheen, and we bring him into this chapel every Tuesday, because it's his

00:24:28.540 convert course on audio. And we also take the Baltimore Catechism number four, the adult catechism.

00:24:36.460 And in 12 weeks, we take you through a crash course, and you're baptized after 12 weeks in the Catholic

00:24:42.940 Church. I don't know of any other place that can do that. The RCIA program, a year or two. But

00:24:51.100 our pastor is supporting us. Our bishop is supporting us in the convert courses. So that's

00:24:55.740 one thing we're doing. But I have to tell you, over the years, we've even had a gentleman come in

00:25:01.180 while our Bible study was going on, run into the church, get down in front of our Lord in the Blessed

00:25:06.780 Sacrament. And like, he didn't even see us. He walked in there and pleaded with our Lord, I'm sorry,

00:25:11.900 I just killed a man. Please forgive me, Lord. Jesus, I did it, but I'm sorry. And we're just like,

00:25:19.260 what? And then he ran out. And we never saw the man again. But why? The church doors were open,

00:25:27.500 lights were on. This could have been sitting here. And here's the other thing that I want

00:25:32.620 to encourage people. We have condominiums right next door to us. If this was knocked down,

00:25:37.820 an investor, believe me, I've got a real estate background. This would have been put into units,

00:25:43.100 and made a lot of money. But this is why we did it. We wanted to preserve what is, oh,

00:25:50.060 and I didn't tell you this, John Henry, sorry, this is the most exciting part of this story.

00:25:56.220 Once we bought the church, the previous pastor of the big church found out that we purchased the church.

00:26:03.580 He calls me, John Henry, and says this, Terry, I can't believe our prayers were answered. I said,

00:26:08.300 what do you think your prayers were answered? He said, 21 years before that, we got outside the

00:26:14.700 Sacred Heart Chapel because the pastor said we couldn't go inside. Twelve of us men prayed a rosary

00:26:21.500 on our knees in front of the Sacred Heart stained glass window. And we buried an image of the Holy

00:26:28.700 Family, Jesus, Mary, and St. Joseph. And we asked for their intercession right there. We prayed and said,

00:26:35.100 dear Holy Family, intercede that a lay Orthodox group would purchase this church and be used for

00:26:41.180 the honor and glory of God. Those were his words. They buried a little image of the Holy Family and

00:26:53.260 they put it in a plastic bag 18 inches down. My engineer at Virgin Most Powerful, Richard O'Bannon,

00:26:59.660 got the shovel out and we dug it up that day. Show us where that is. Can you show us?

00:27:05.820 I can show you. We can walk around if you want. Yeah, please. Is this the original bell? No. Now,

00:27:11.660 here's another story. Okay. The story on this bell tower, as you know, as Catholics, we have a

00:27:17.900 tradition. When someone dies, you ring the bells to pray for their soul. So as part of our work for

00:27:25.980 the salvation of souls, I got this bell in Mexico, a church had burned down. And then I had original

00:27:33.340 rocks from the river and we spent $30,000 well spent to build this tower. And so at the end of each

00:27:41.580 funeral, we ring the bell asking people to pray for the repose of the soul who died. Beautiful. So

00:27:48.540 one of the things about church bells, you got it from a church, right? So they're consecrated and

00:27:53.980 exercised. And that means when they ring the bell, it does an exorcism for as far as you can hear the

00:28:01.340 bell. John Henry, we had the Opus Angelorum, Father Wolfgang, pray these prayers for 45 minutes

00:28:07.740 just to make sure, because I said it came from a church, but we wanted to, he said, well, you know,

00:28:11.820 it's conditional. Conditional baptism for the bells. You get it? So we had a great time to do this.

00:28:18.780 And then we landscaped this with the desert situation. Now I'd like to take you to the spot

00:28:25.020 where the image of the Holy Family was buried for decades. Amazing. Let's go.

00:28:30.140 Are we okay? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

00:28:37.580 Those doors were just running last week. You see, every two years we have to read for finishing.

00:28:42.060 Oh, wow. Why would I want to put some phony doors? No way.

00:28:46.060 All right. So here's what we got. We crossed over. This is saving water. So we're dead.

00:28:55.820 You feel how cool it is? Two big air conditioning units. No matter if it's a hundred, you're cold in

00:29:00.620 there. Okay. So here's what happened. You tell me when you're ready. This is in the sun,

00:29:05.820 though. Are you okay? Yeah. Okay. Above me is the sacred heart of Jesus statue,

00:29:11.740 our stained glass window. And what Father said is go directly below that and start digging.

00:29:18.620 So we went 18 inches down into the ground and we saw it. We felt there was a little plastic bag

00:29:24.620 and we dug it up, opened up the bag and there was the image of the Holy Family.

00:29:29.740 And we were just like moved by it in tears. I mean, this, this was a touching moment for all of us here

00:29:35.180 at Virgin Most Powerful. How long had you been here when you got the story?

00:29:38.220 How long had I been here? About a month. Okay. So it took a little bit. He's in Tucson, Arizona. He's a

00:29:46.140 Eastern right priest now. And his name, um, oh gosh, let me think of it real quick. Because

00:29:52.140 you like documentation. So hang on. Uh, Father, I just had his name again.

00:29:59.340 He, he left. He could Mahoney and him didn't get along. That's why he left.

00:30:01.900 Yeah. Um, oh, Father Rankin, Father John Rankin is the priest who was associate here at Sacred Heart

00:30:09.100 in Covina, who told, who, who prayed here decades before we purchased the church. And he's the one

00:30:14.460 who told us dig up the statue of the Holy Family underneath the stained glass window. And that's what

00:30:21.020 we did, John Henry. Beautiful. And did you have the statue?

00:30:23.820 I don't. You know what? I had it and I, I can't find it. I'm, I've, I'm a little, I'm just being

00:30:29.180 honest with you. I, I thought of maybe building a little thing about it and put it, you know, on a,

00:30:33.420 and I, it's just, it was, it was so, um, what's the word? Soiled. It was so soiled that I, it almost

00:30:39.660 didn't look, you know, you could see that it was there, but you know what I mean? Water and time.

00:30:43.900 It's not good for those little things. So that's our story. And, um, I did just another quick

00:30:50.220 note. I did meet some of the relatives, uh, that, uh, built this church and I actually got

00:30:57.740 the receipts of what it cost to build this church in 1911. And it was $16,500. I got receipts for

00:31:05.820 the wood, everything. And the way they built this church was by having chicken dinners to raise the

00:31:11.740 money to purchase this church. And obviously we got a couple of houses back here. Our studios for

00:31:16.860 Virgin most powerful are here. And, uh, this has really become a hub for orthodoxy. People know us

00:31:23.340 because they know when they come here, they're going to get full contact Catholicism.

00:31:27.740 Beautiful. Can you show us the studios? Absolutely. It's probably a mess right now.

00:31:39.180 I paid $250 for that, that, uh, stadium. I mean, the stool, no one would rent it to me. I said,

00:31:45.180 all right, I guess I own one now. Come on in.

00:31:51.020 Okay. So what we have, it's pretty messy because of the conference. Wait, this is probably not the

00:31:56.700 best time to take a picture, but as you know, the Benedict, St. Benedict, this is what's behind

00:32:01.740 me. Full sheen ahead. You see? Ah, yes, yes, yes. But that's the green screen, you know. Ah, okay. So

00:32:07.100 basically Jesse Romero is in the Phoenix area. We have, um, Father Chad Ripperger's guys in other

00:32:15.420 other states like New Mexico, Dan, who's here. And, uh, this is where we actually broadcast all of our

00:32:21.260 shows. We go to about 50 AM stations. Plus we use social media and I have to publicly thank

00:32:27.820 not just John Henry Weston, but life site news because you broadcast our Bishop Strickland hour.

00:32:33.020 Yeah. And I thank you for that. Oh, it's a great privilege for us. Where, and you set up Bishop

00:32:38.540 Strickland in his office, did you? I did. Well, yeah. Yeah. No, Bishop Strickland does it in Tyler,

00:32:43.580 Texas every single week on Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we, so I've become, and I just want to,

00:32:49.500 do you mind me saying something about Bishop Strickland? No, please. Because I only mentioned it.

00:32:52.860 So he is such a hero to all of us lifesteaders. He's a, he's the American bishop, if you will.

00:33:00.540 We call it. And, uh, it was such a privilege to process with him, to be with him and to listen

00:33:09.180 to him as, as we do at life site. Um, I would love this story if you're able to share some story,

00:33:15.340 but I will say this first in 1911, this building was used for catechism classes. Do you see a

00:33:23.180 connection now? We're doing Baltimore catechism lessons to the world in a building that was used

00:33:29.260 over a hundred years ago to teach the faith. I love it. All right. Bishop Strickland,

00:33:33.980 many of you watch the show. I have to tell you, John Henry, you know, but the listeners,

00:33:39.020 I've never met a bishop in my life that is so on fire for truth and that he will, no matter what

00:33:48.780 the consequences are, he will speak the truth for the faith. And I'm convinced that if we had more

00:33:56.860 bishops like Bishop Strickland, the church could be turned around. And I just want to say this,

00:34:02.300 pray for him because so many, I'll use modernists attack him because they say he's rigid.

00:34:10.860 He shouldn't be doing this. He shouldn't be going out to Los Angeles to go protest the Dodgers because

00:34:17.100 it makes the church look silly. And he says, my moral conscience says I need to do these things.

00:34:23.500 And so many times, how many bishops will say this on the air? Terry, if I ever say something

00:34:29.900 that's not in accordance with the Catholic faith, correct me on the air, not later.

00:34:36.460 Not too many will say that. Now, personally, the other thing I will say about Bishop Strickland

00:34:40.620 is anybody who has a need, he's there. He's the model priest. I know this for a fact because

00:34:47.900 we brought him out for the spiritual warfare conference. There was a little boy just he was

00:34:53.100 dying of cancer and he needed to be anointed. And Bishop Strickland said without a doubt, oh yeah,

00:35:01.180 when I'm in there, let's go do that. He's the same bishop that you guys saw on the hill blessing

00:35:07.340 the Four Corners of Southern California just a few months ago. He's America's bishop. And I'll tell you

00:35:14.060 why. Because he doesn't compromise at all when it comes to the faith. And I know our relationship,

00:35:21.980 because I do a weekly show with him, trust me, I'm talking to him during the week about church

00:35:28.140 situations. And if he was sitting here right now, he would be a hundred percent behind what we're doing

00:35:35.420 in that chapel. And even just, I'll just give it a note. I got a text from him about the Dodger

00:35:42.060 thing from last night when we're recording this. And he said, it was a fantastic experience.

00:35:46.620 Please send me some pictures. I want to show them with my friends. He's ordinary, but you know what,

00:35:51.180 he's extraordinary because he's doing things that all bishops should be doing. And that is teaching,

00:35:57.420 governing, and sanctifying the faithful. Amen. You know what, Terry, you do that too. Praise God.

00:36:03.340 God. God bless you, brother. God bless you. Thanks for taking it. God bless.

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