The John-Henry Westen Show - July 11, 2024


Jaw-Dropping Vatican Financial and Sexual Corruption EXPOSED


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

173.77232

Word Count

10,899

Sentence Count

664

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

27


Summary

Join us at the Eucharistic Congress on July 19th in Indianapolis, Indiana for a Latin Mass and special guest speaker, Stephen Brady of the Women Catholic Faithful. Stephen Brady is a priest, investigator, and public speaker who has spent his life dedicated to uncovering abuse within the Catholic Church.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 At that moment, there was no human help because the doctors were all convinced I was going to die.
00:00:07.140 The priest came in and gave me last rites.
00:00:10.140 And I knew at that moment why I was born.
00:00:14.820 And much to their surprise, three weeks later, I walked out of the hospital.
00:00:18.880 Hi, my friends. We are here at the conference of the Coalition for Canceled Priests.
00:00:31.900 Here there are a lot of speakers, one of whom is Stephen Brady.
00:00:34.580 Stephen Brady has had a long past dealing with one of the most uncomfortable subjects on earth,
00:00:41.700 and that is the abuse situation inside the church.
00:00:45.540 He's been an investigator and one who comes from a past, it's interesting,
00:00:51.480 having really nothing to do with such investigations, but got into it and was graced by God to get into it.
00:00:56.660 And it's some hard discussions, hard topics to deal with.
00:01:00.780 But no one's better placed than Stephen Brady of Women Catholic Faithful.
00:01:05.060 You're going to want to stay tuned to this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.
00:01:09.560 Hey, my friends. You've heard about the Eucharistic revival that's going on,
00:01:14.080 the pilgrimage is going to culminate in Indiana at the Eucharistic Congress.
00:01:18.980 Well, we've got amazing news for you.
00:01:20.720 We are holding a traditional Latin math steps away from the main Congress center
00:01:25.320 because we learned at first there was no traditional Latin mass, not on the schedule.
00:01:30.440 And we thought, oh, no, what we can do.
00:01:32.340 One of our donors said, can you fix that?
00:01:34.460 We found Victory Field right across, steps away from where the Congress is being held to hold the Latin mass.
00:01:39.160 And guess what? We learned that since then, there were some announcements of other Latin masses
00:01:44.680 that are going to be in the area on different days.
00:01:47.680 And so it's really awesome.
00:01:49.480 So if you are in the traditional Latin mass, you thought, oh, I can't go to the Congress
00:01:53.540 because they don't have one there.
00:01:55.180 They do have them there now.
00:01:56.940 And it's just wonderful.
00:01:58.820 This is Father Fashing.
00:02:00.000 He's going to be there.
00:02:01.200 And this is Father James Altman, who's going to be there.
00:02:04.020 They're going to be celebrating masses for us.
00:02:05.680 Lifesight's going to be inside the Congress as well, as is Vicki Yamasaki.
00:02:10.880 Vicki, go ahead.
00:02:11.620 Yeah, we're just so excited.
00:02:13.520 We hope you join us and sign up for this free event, free lunches because of a generous donor.
00:02:22.760 As he said, I'm actually going to be at the Eucharistic Congress,
00:02:26.520 and I'm going to walk away from my booth so that I can enjoy this traditional Latin mass
00:02:32.760 and these three great speakers that will offer insights into why it is that so many Catholics
00:02:43.660 no longer believe in the real presence.
00:02:47.820 As we know in our Catholic culture, in our Catholic teaching, there's a phrase,
00:02:52.640 lexorandi, lexorgedendi, as we pray, so we believe.
00:02:55.480 And through the traditional Latin mass, it inspires such depth of prayer.
00:03:01.700 No funny business going on up there.
00:03:03.280 People believe, and so we're trying to inspire that belief in the real presence
00:03:07.400 because without which, we do not have life within us.
00:03:10.220 Thus, what we're doing will actually be throwing fuel on the fire of revival,
00:03:15.840 a belief in the real presence of the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ,
00:03:19.780 our Lord, in the Holy Eucharist.
00:03:21.100 Amen.
00:03:21.560 Amen.
00:03:21.800 Father, I'm thrilled for the opportunity to remind you what you can be doing
00:03:28.380 to renew your own personal devotion to the Eucharist,
00:03:31.280 and also how to get others to remind them to deepen their faith
00:03:37.260 in worshiping our Lord in the Eucharist.
00:03:39.320 So based on my own experience, it's just going to be a great opportunity
00:03:43.080 to remind people of what the Church teaches us,
00:03:46.040 that our lives are supposed to revolve around the Holy Eucharist.
00:03:49.280 So I'm looking forward to it.
00:03:50.660 I'm going to walk right across the street to Victory Field
00:03:56.000 and join you for this beautiful traditional Latin Mass on July 19th
00:04:03.640 and hear from these three fantastic speakers.
00:04:08.140 And maybe you can catch the other traditional Latin Mass the day before
00:04:12.740 with Archbishop Coeur d'Aleon, and now that's a little further away.
00:04:19.080 That's just under two miles at Holy Rosary Catholic Church, smaller parish.
00:04:25.740 It can seat about 400, so you better get a seat early there.
00:04:30.220 Victory Field seats about 10,000.
00:04:33.200 So register soon.
00:04:35.320 We can't wait to see you.
00:04:36.700 Join us, our friends, at Victory Field on July 19th,
00:04:41.040 right steps away from the Eucharistic Congress in Indianapolis, Indiana.
00:04:46.360 God bless you and look forward to seeing you there.
00:04:47.820 Stephen Brady, so good to be with you.
00:04:51.560 Thank you.
00:04:52.080 Thank you, Jennifer.
00:04:53.160 Let's begin as we always do at the Son of the Cross.
00:04:55.300 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
00:04:59.100 Amen.
00:04:59.540 Amen.
00:05:01.360 Stephen, you've been now, Roman Catholic Faithful has been, what, it's 35 years?
00:05:06.980 Close to 30 years.
00:05:07.880 30 years.
00:05:09.020 So, if you were to say it, you're like in the movement forever at that point.
00:05:14.900 And yet, you didn't start off as intending to do anything like this.
00:05:20.640 What was your background before this?
00:05:22.220 Well, I was military police in the Army, drafted during the Vietnam War into the Army,
00:05:27.420 put into military police.
00:05:29.100 That was the government's choice.
00:05:30.540 I didn't choose it.
00:05:31.800 I got a secret security clearance from the FBI and one special assignment.
00:05:35.340 So, I had some, several points of law enforcement training where you teach,
00:05:40.260 where you learn God, family, and country.
00:05:42.780 And the military was a little bit different back then in the 70s and late 60s.
00:05:47.900 And, but then when I got out of the Army, I had fallen away from the church a little bit
00:05:53.100 and a good, solid Roman Catholic priest got a hold of me.
00:05:56.820 And he introduced me to the faith again.
00:05:59.260 In fact, pulled me out of the communion line once because he knew more than I did
00:06:03.340 about I wasn't quite right to receive communion.
00:06:06.220 And he made me mad, but then I realized he loved me that much to anger me.
00:06:10.200 So, I went to classes with Father Swiatek for a year, one hour a week for a year.
00:06:15.580 And he brought me back into the faith.
00:06:17.140 And he said, Stephen, it's all or nothing.
00:06:19.940 You either accept everything of the Catholic faith.
00:06:22.300 He said, we don't need any more bad Catholics.
00:06:23.920 He said, or it's all or nothing.
00:06:27.460 Or you leave, we'll still be friends, but we don't need any more bad Catholics.
00:06:30.580 And he said, I'm not here to make friends.
00:06:32.940 I'm here to save souls.
00:06:34.400 And then I would date a girl.
00:06:38.000 He knew the area.
00:06:39.140 So, it was in Petersburg, Illinois.
00:06:40.620 So, he would tell me if she was a keeper or not.
00:06:43.180 It was a lighthearted way of him and I talking.
00:06:45.300 And I introduced my date, my wife, who was a Methodist at the time.
00:06:51.600 But she was looking for the truth.
00:06:53.980 And he talked to her, interviewed her, converted her.
00:06:56.240 He said, yeah, she's a keeper.
00:06:57.740 So, we've been married 40-some years now, over 40 years, about 45 years now,
00:07:02.520 and seven children, 17 grandchildren.
00:07:07.320 But really, once I was all settled in my whole life,
00:07:11.860 and our children were in, the oldest were in, about 14.
00:07:15.960 And it started with pornographic sex education in the public school.
00:07:20.920 Planned Parenthood as well.
00:07:22.440 And it was Catholic teachers in the public school and Catholic school board members
00:07:27.160 who were also handing out communion at the local parish.
00:07:31.380 And I have all the documentation.
00:07:33.860 I had all the documentation from the sex ed program, and it was pornographic.
00:07:37.880 It was boys and girls in the same class, to delicately put it.
00:07:41.320 It was destroying the innocence of the girls.
00:07:43.960 Destroying, and it took away any sense of shame.
00:07:46.700 My oldest boy was 14, and what they had him, it was just horrific.
00:07:51.500 So, I went to the priest.
00:07:53.620 You're not going to change nothing.
00:07:55.100 Of course, I didn't know at the time our pastor was part of the problem.
00:07:58.640 And then I went to the bishop, and we never met.
00:08:00.900 And finally, I started writing every priest.
00:08:03.400 And lo and behold, I got some letters from clergy.
00:08:06.100 Don't you know?
00:08:06.740 Well, I'd contact father, some priest, and that's where I found out the bishop was involved
00:08:13.820 with picking up teenage boys off the street and having his way with them.
00:08:17.320 And I just couldn't believe it.
00:08:19.040 But I was so naive.
00:08:20.380 At first, you think of your own children.
00:08:22.500 When you got seven kids, you know, it was a big family.
00:08:25.080 And I thought of my own children.
00:08:26.480 My own boy, my oldest boy was that age.
00:08:28.400 So, I thought, I'll get the information, and I'll get it to the hierarchy, and they'll
00:08:34.920 do something about it.
00:08:36.540 And it was just a process from there until I found out that the hierarchy was the problem.
00:08:42.640 Ryan was being protected.
00:08:45.020 And after I found the, after I found the.
00:08:48.240 And which, what Ryan, Bishop Ryan?
00:08:49.760 In Springfield, Illinois, Bishop Daniel Ryan.
00:08:51.760 He's deceased now, but it's all public.
00:08:53.640 But as I told, as I told, when I got the 750 pages of documents, and I gave them to the
00:09:00.300 Bennett, Mr. Bennett, the lawyer for the Bishop's Conference, I said, what was so difficult
00:09:05.840 for me to understand, nobody around him loved that man enough to stop him.
00:09:11.140 I said, people have no idea what charity means.
00:09:14.300 And I think I read something that Benedictine wrote about, it's not an act of charity to
00:09:18.720 allow one's neighbor to run headlong into hell.
00:09:20.600 And I kept thinking of my son when he got a little older, and I had him arrested, and
00:09:25.360 some woman thought I was awful.
00:09:27.240 I said, I'll break his nose to save his soul.
00:09:29.640 I said, he's not going to be a thief.
00:09:31.520 He robbed from me.
00:09:32.520 He broke a window out of the building.
00:09:34.080 He was older.
00:09:35.160 And I said, people don't have an idea, understanding of what that is.
00:09:38.660 But Father Switek, the priest that got a hold of me, he taught me that.
00:09:42.460 He taught me the value of a soul.
00:09:44.480 And from then on out, it just, it just was a bulldozer effect.
00:09:49.520 I mean, I started getting contacts from around the world, and it always come back to the
00:09:54.440 children because of the mothers and the families I would interview.
00:09:58.520 And it just kept escalating and escalating.
00:10:01.000 And then I found out Cardinal Bernadine would do nothing.
00:10:03.900 Cardinal George tried to bribe me, and Bishop Lucas threatened me and told me my family's
00:10:08.860 not welcome anywhere.
00:10:09.680 Then it became the faith and the family.
00:10:12.980 And they were taking everything that I found that was so beautiful and turning it around.
00:10:17.000 So, but fortunately, some good priests like Father John Hardin contacted me, wanted to
00:10:25.600 work with me.
00:10:26.280 And he introduced me to Father Alfred Koontz to use the canon lawyer.
00:10:29.780 Father Koontz was savagely murdered once he started helping me on the Bishop Ryan project.
00:10:34.220 And then Malachi Martin contacted me.
00:10:38.020 I asked Father Hardin, can I work with him, Father?
00:10:41.080 Because I've heard good and bad about Malachi Martin, both Jesuits.
00:10:44.200 I said, I need some advice.
00:10:46.400 He said, and this is that quote, Father Malachi Martin is right with the church.
00:10:51.880 Father Hardin was a man of few words, but he let me know whatever he is, a saint or sinner,
00:10:56.880 he's right with the church so I could work with him.
00:10:58.940 And then it just became so interesting because if you can call Malachi Martin or you can call
00:11:04.860 Father Hardin or you can call a local priest, I don't mention any names of priests living
00:11:09.080 now because it causes problems.
00:11:10.940 And then there was a local priest that got me into adoration a little before this, six
00:11:17.220 years, two o'clock Sunday morning, every week for six years.
00:11:20.680 That's when everything started to open up.
00:11:22.520 It seemed to make all the difference in the world.
00:11:24.180 And he told me, if you ever start to doubt your faith, walk away.
00:11:29.060 It was Father Kuntz that told me, you'll never find justice in the church today.
00:11:34.240 And he was working with Father Hardin, who was answering to Cardinal Gagnon and the Vatican.
00:11:40.140 And once the Vatican ordered me to shut my mouth, Father Hardin, I picked him up at the
00:11:46.740 airport.
00:11:47.120 He came from Rome.
00:11:48.000 He said, Stephen, obedience isn't a vow with me.
00:11:52.940 It's a way of life.
00:11:54.540 I've been ordered to try to convince you and your attorney and your board to stop what you're
00:11:59.020 doing.
00:11:59.880 So that's when I come here.
00:12:01.240 I'm going to do that.
00:12:01.980 I'm going to try to convince you to stop.
00:12:03.940 But he pulled me aside and said, personally, Stephen, from my own belief, don't you ever
00:12:08.460 stop what you're doing.
00:12:09.400 And it's just, I was in a world I never thought I would find.
00:12:16.680 It's just like when I got a call from the Jordanian or, you know, the St. Sebastian's
00:12:21.720 angel's tip from a religious.
00:12:23.880 I'm sitting at the pizza place one evening at one of the tables and I'm thinking, me,
00:12:30.140 I'm a carpenter.
00:12:31.220 I'm a pizza maker.
00:12:32.320 I'm a grandfather, a father.
00:12:34.040 I said, Lord, just give me what I need to get something done.
00:12:38.640 And that's how it happened because I never planned anything.
00:12:41.680 It just happened.
00:12:42.940 And what I needed seemed to be there when it happened.
00:12:46.620 It's just like with the lawsuit.
00:12:48.380 I never had a penny and I had 200,000 in legal fees and it was one lawsuit in 30 years, but
00:12:55.540 it was unjustified because we beat it, but it still costs 200,000 in legal fees.
00:12:59.980 But this is where faith comes in.
00:13:02.360 And I was scared to death, but the thing was the Thomas More Society hooked me up with Paul
00:13:08.040 Jonah.
00:13:09.480 And Paul Jonah out in California, because a priest was in California that filed suit against
00:13:14.400 me, Monsignor Craig Harrison, I exposed him out of him.
00:13:18.000 And Paul Jonah said, Stephen, I got this.
00:13:20.740 That put me at ease.
00:13:22.500 And then I cashed in a life insurance policy, but some wonderful gentleman out of Texas
00:13:28.020 I didn't know sent me $40,000.
00:13:29.700 And it was just, you know, the good Lord had to make it happen because I don't fundraise
00:13:35.240 per se, and we didn't get much.
00:13:37.760 We only got half of our legal fees back.
00:13:39.700 But it just, the key was Father Switek always told me, Stephen, be careful what you ask for
00:13:51.020 because God may give it to you.
00:13:52.300 And I found out I got the greatest gift ever.
00:13:57.400 But how I got it, I understood what Father meant, because I was praying for faith and
00:14:02.020 determination and a will to do this.
00:14:05.200 But I had to believe more.
00:14:06.520 I wanted that mustard seed of faith so I could, I know I'd never move a mountain.
00:14:10.320 I wouldn't be that much faith, but I wanted something more so I would trust in God.
00:14:14.700 And August 21st, 2006, I held my 20-year-old son in my arms as he died.
00:14:23.260 The following year, October 9th, 2007, I was tied down to a trauma room table with my
00:14:29.640 skull fractured, a stab wound on my right side.
00:14:33.680 This, I was swollen shut, and I was spitting blood.
00:14:36.140 And I was in and out of it because they had me on such fentanyl.
00:14:40.340 And anyway, the doctors, because of the massive brain hemorrhaging, the left frontal lobe of
00:14:46.180 my brain, they told me, was swollen.
00:14:48.120 Was it an accident?
00:14:49.260 I was on my motorcycle coming back from visiting my father in the hospital with cancer.
00:14:53.900 And I was hit in the side by a deer.
00:14:56.820 I was doing 55 miles an hour, and I had no helmet on.
00:15:00.440 My son was killed on the same highway the year before.
00:15:03.140 He had an airbag and a seatbelt.
00:15:06.140 So they said, the doctors, there's no way without hemorrhaging I could live.
00:15:10.540 The only thing I had left on, tied down to that table, was my bloodied brown scapula.
00:15:15.900 That's all I had left on.
00:15:17.900 But I tell folks, but you've got to think of something.
00:15:21.540 The good Lord brought me to nothing.
00:15:24.560 Here I was, just like I came into the world.
00:15:26.560 No dignity left, nothing, no shit, nothing.
00:15:28.980 I'm laying there just like I came into the world, and you're by yourself, you're tied down,
00:15:33.620 and you're told you're going to die.
00:15:34.720 At that moment, there was no human help, because the doctors were all convinced I was going to die.
00:15:42.840 Well, the priest came in and gave me last rites.
00:15:47.040 And I knew at that moment why I was born.
00:15:51.200 And much to their surprise, three weeks later, I walked out of the hospital.
00:15:56.440 And the neurologist told me, Stephen, we don't know how you lived.
00:16:01.360 And I don't, you know, he said, you're a walking miracle.
00:16:04.700 And the other doctors felt the same thing.
00:16:07.180 And I don't know who, what, or why, but I know everybody had me dead.
00:16:11.680 But the priest and the good Lord had other ideas.
00:16:15.180 So however it happened, it made my faith so strong.
00:16:18.740 I don't fear death.
00:16:20.120 I don't fear any man.
00:16:21.400 Not because I'm strong, but because the good Lord has taken care of me.
00:16:25.600 And when he'll get you out of a situation like that, but more than that, it's all the parents
00:16:31.200 I've spoken to, all the young people, and you find out the damage that's been done by this
00:16:38.360 hierarchy, but it not only hurt them personally, but as I've told folks before, a sign of the
00:16:47.100 hierarchy's complete corruption is the fact that the victim of rape needs a lawyer to get
00:16:52.700 justice.
00:16:53.840 Now, when you need a lawyer to go to a man of God to get justice, do justice from God
00:16:59.320 Almighty, you know there's a problem.
00:17:02.220 And then the fact that they're filing bankruptcy because of all the abuse and cover-ups within
00:17:08.420 the diocese, that speaks volumes.
00:17:10.600 These are so-called men of God.
00:17:11.960 And people, I think people need to look at it, they don't need to overthink the situation.
00:17:16.820 You don't need to have a degree in scripture.
00:17:18.960 It's just, black and white, it's right there.
00:17:21.000 You can't believe in God as a member of the hierarchy and commit a sacrilege.
00:17:25.160 I mean, in my mind, because I had to think of it this way, because I was attacked early
00:17:31.280 on by so many Catholic groups.
00:17:33.500 What right do you have?
00:17:35.060 You know, this is back in the 90s when not anybody was doing this.
00:17:38.320 You're not a canon lawyer.
00:17:39.380 The Pope appointed them.
00:17:41.460 But I had to, with the help of Father Hardin and the other clergy, I had to come to the
00:17:47.240 understanding that once a member of a hierarchy crosses that line, he's nothing.
00:17:54.940 You know, he's put himself in jeopardy.
00:17:57.560 And it's just the fact that if you look at the fact no one loved Cardinal McCarrick enough
00:18:01.900 to stop him, if you really believe in the faith and what true love actually means, and
00:18:07.300 Christ, as we all know, said to the apostles, love your fellow man like I have loved you so
00:18:12.920 they'll know you by your love, and that's gone.
00:18:15.940 You don't see that in the hierarchy.
00:18:17.380 That's what motivates me, and I am winding down RCF, but that's only because I want to
00:18:23.320 go privately because of the fact that I can work a little more under the radar that way,
00:18:29.700 and there's so much stuff coming to me now on the money laundering, and that's another
00:18:33.740 thing.
00:18:34.060 The good Lord has a plan because stuff falls in my lap that I never ask for.
00:18:40.700 It just comes about like the money laundering situation when the Jordanian contacted me,
00:18:45.400 and I never know what's going to happen next.
00:18:48.440 But the thing that delights me is I'll get somebody that'll come up to me 10 years after
00:18:53.240 the fact and say I said something that changed their life, you know, 10 years ago.
00:18:58.980 And really, it's only simple stuff that I say from a father, you know, from a Catholic
00:19:03.880 father.
00:19:04.280 I'm no theologian.
00:19:05.420 There's no PhD.
00:19:06.320 I dropped out of Purdue in Indiana to go into the service when I was drafted, so it's
00:19:11.560 just, I thank the good Lord for everything.
00:19:14.540 And I've had problems in my family just like everybody else does, but you can't, you have
00:19:20.020 to lose all human respect.
00:19:22.260 And that sounds a little crass and crude to some people, but you can't worry about what
00:19:26.500 your neighbor's going to think when it comes to the right thing.
00:19:28.460 And as long as I'm right with God, I don't care.
00:19:31.080 And he has taken care of me.
00:19:34.120 And stuff I've done, it's, you got to be careful so your head doesn't swell up too much when
00:19:41.880 you get stuff, people from other countries contacting you.
00:19:45.840 But it's, you know you're doing some good.
00:19:47.980 And one key point, when the folks from Ireland contacted me, they wanted some advice, but
00:19:54.580 they wanted to use my name and form a group there.
00:19:58.640 And I said, just don't attribute what you do to me, but that's fine.
00:20:02.200 And because I have to know what you're doing otherwise, exactly.
00:20:05.740 And we discussed things.
00:20:06.760 I said, why me?
00:20:08.780 Mr. Brady, because we know you care.
00:20:12.480 And we know you do something even if it is successful.
00:20:16.540 That's why I think so many street kids came to me.
00:20:18.840 I've had gay clergy come to me.
00:20:21.020 I'm not a PhD.
00:20:22.340 I'm not a doctor.
00:20:23.240 I'm not an officer, not a cop.
00:20:24.760 So I don't think they feel threatened.
00:20:26.880 But I mean, I'll go into the gutter.
00:20:28.340 I'll go into the prisons and the places where most people won't go.
00:20:31.280 And, you know, it's just worked.
00:20:34.260 So I don't know exactly why, but the good Lord has covered me.
00:20:38.420 And as long as something keeps coming my way, I'll still deal with it.
00:20:45.480 I'm almost 72 now.
00:20:47.140 I've got to get back into shape because of the accident.
00:20:50.060 I was laid up a year.
00:20:51.240 But, you know, I'm just grateful for the opportunity
00:20:55.220 because you met so many wonderful people.
00:20:58.500 But also, it's all about the family and the faith.
00:21:02.140 So that's where we're at today.
00:21:04.600 When you look at the hierarchy today, you were looking at figures that are now known.
00:21:12.340 When you look at the hierarchy today, do you see a massive transformation?
00:21:16.600 Just talking about the U.S. hierarchy anyway, is it a different crowd?
00:21:21.420 Is it a different atmosphere?
00:21:23.520 Are they, like they said in 2002 and then again later,
00:21:29.620 have they turned a corner on the whole sexual abuse thing?
00:21:32.580 Have they really put it where it belongs and are they taking it seriously?
00:21:36.660 No, I don't think so.
00:21:37.640 My opinion is I don't think so for one minute.
00:21:40.560 I've dealt with a few cardinals, I mean, and a few bishops recently
00:21:45.380 and had a few conversations.
00:21:47.600 I don't mention names because I don't want to.
00:21:49.780 But it's not been in a positive respect.
00:21:52.660 You know, it's the way I look at it.
00:21:55.160 Some say, well, a bishop can't go too far.
00:21:57.520 He's persecuted.
00:21:58.200 I said, no, no, no, no, no, he's got an obligation to God first.
00:22:03.220 Forget his superiors and that he's got to do what's right.
00:22:06.600 Because as one priest told me, these bishops don't have any faith.
00:22:11.980 If they had faith in God, they wouldn't have to raise money.
00:22:16.840 They wouldn't have to fight for vocations.
00:22:18.500 God would give it to them and bless them with it if they were doing what's right.
00:22:21.540 But I have found nothing positive in the hierarchy.
00:22:25.020 I approached one, I won't mention the name, a former member of the hierarchy.
00:22:30.260 He used to be a papal nuncio years ago.
00:22:32.000 They carry the diplomatic pouch.
00:22:33.680 I had dealings with Koch of Elan back in the 90s,
00:22:36.600 and he didn't want nothing to do with anything.
00:22:38.340 And he was the go-between to the Vatican.
00:22:40.660 So Father Hardin went to Rome on my behalf.
00:22:43.080 But this one papal nuncio, I said, I want to know where the skeletons are buried.
00:22:48.760 I want to know how the money's moved and who's in charge now.
00:22:53.200 Because I have a lot of that information from the Jordanian who contacted me,
00:22:57.620 but I wanted something straight from the person who had the diplomatic pouch.
00:23:01.560 He said he didn't want to talk about it.
00:23:03.600 So for whatever his reason is, but my problem with that is,
00:23:08.860 if you're going to help, if you truly believe, we've got to know what's going on
00:23:15.480 so we know what to fight.
00:23:17.140 Because it's getting so desperate,
00:23:19.820 and it's just like when there's all these offshoots organizations and what have you,
00:23:24.560 like Pius X.
00:23:25.640 I've never been to a Pius X Mass.
00:23:28.280 But I said, Archbishop Lefebvre may be declared a saint someday for saving the Mass.
00:23:34.160 I said, when it comes right down to it.
00:23:36.140 I don't know the technical right or wrong, but somebody said the Pope is.
00:23:40.820 I said, there comes a point in time when their authority is null,
00:23:45.640 because a priest is a priest.
00:23:47.320 But no, I haven't seen anything positive because I've been doing a lot of this work,
00:23:52.920 especially with the money laundering.
00:23:54.460 I've put out press releases.
00:23:55.960 I've contacted the hierarchy.
00:23:58.780 None of them will explain anything to me.
00:24:00.840 They won't even talk to me and say where I'm wrong.
00:24:03.180 It's just like with Bishop Ryan when I got all the condemnation years ago.
00:24:07.780 Not one bishop, they would all hate mail the threats.
00:24:12.420 Tell me where I'm wrong.
00:24:14.240 Tell me what to do differently.
00:24:16.500 It's just like with St. Sebastian's Angels when I exposed that organization.
00:24:21.020 Before I ever made that public, all the homosexual clergy communicate with one another in their email.
00:24:27.080 I had hundreds of emails.
00:24:28.780 They were even talking about little boys they were with.
00:24:31.420 And I offered that, those hundreds of emails, pictures and stuff.
00:24:35.660 I offered that to every cardinal in this country in 2000, 25 years ago.
00:24:41.320 And not one wanted it.
00:24:43.520 I said, you guys could do something with it because it's supposed to men that are hearing confessions and ruling diocese.
00:24:50.980 And they're saying these awful things and they're talking about how they feel.
00:24:56.100 The beauty of it was, if you can even look at it that way, I caught their correspondence between one another.
00:25:01.820 So you got the true homosexual effect.
00:25:05.060 So I called Cardinal George because I still had his number from when I was trying to get rid of Ryan.
00:25:10.460 Ryan was still in power at the time.
00:25:12.560 And I said, Your Eminence, why won't you take this stuff?
00:25:16.660 I said, because surely the hierarchy wants to know if they're true men of God, what's going on and what these priests and bishops are doing.
00:25:25.120 He said, I don't want to look at the pictures so it may be a near occasion of sin.
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00:26:28.040 I said, how do you hear confession?
00:26:32.640 How do you go to the wise?
00:26:33.940 So what you're saying to me is your eminence.
00:26:37.200 When I give you the stuff on Bishop Ryan, you told the paper I had no proof.
00:26:41.840 Maybe you wanted pictures.
00:26:43.140 I'm giving you the pictures, and you don't want to look at it.
00:26:46.380 So I said, it's plausible deniability.
00:26:48.160 I said, it's, I became so frustrated, I lost all respect for the hierarchy.
00:26:53.300 And thankfully, Father Hardin would always, he said, watch Steve, your problem is prudence.
00:26:59.500 He said, be a little more prudent, but he told me, don't you ever stop what you're doing.
00:27:03.580 And that's, if it wasn't for Father Hardin, Father Malachi Martin, and the other clergy that helped me,
00:27:09.400 I would have went nowhere, because I would always worry about my own salvation, my own soul.
00:27:14.820 You don't want to destroy somebody that you shouldn't, but then the way I was taught,
00:27:19.420 and the way I looked at it, they were doing so much harm.
00:27:22.920 They had to be stopped, and they're still doing so much harm.
00:27:25.640 Look at all the offshoots and the religious groups.
00:27:29.100 In 2002, I was in Dallas, and I was on some radio shows.
00:27:34.160 An attorney down there who worked for Ronald Reagan brought me down,
00:27:37.660 and I was doing a lot of interviews, and I exposed a bunch,
00:27:42.840 several clergy in the Dallas Diocese that were active homosexuals.
00:27:48.620 And it's just, they didn't care.
00:27:54.060 And it was just, it was just like such a waste.
00:27:58.860 And here they're supposed to be there for the protection of children.
00:28:02.380 They had an individual who was a predatory homosexual advising their committee
00:28:06.820 for the protection of children on the documents they were coming out with.
00:28:09.840 I know because I exposed him. I won't mention the name here.
00:28:12.980 He's still alive.
00:28:13.980 I had a document where there was a labor board document in the state
00:28:18.540 regarding his activities and something he did.
00:28:21.460 And I had the state documents and everything else.
00:28:24.860 But it was just all a joke.
00:28:26.440 They don't, even now, they don't seem to care,
00:28:30.020 because still, victims, well, look at the canceled priests.
00:28:36.800 Candidate law means nothing.
00:28:38.660 What, because of the people trying to, or saying they're enforcing it.
00:28:42.420 No, no, none of these canceled priests have had due process.
00:28:46.720 Not any God-fearing true process for what they did,
00:28:49.720 because if they show me a priest that did something,
00:28:52.440 well, you've got priests that abuse kids, rape kids,
00:28:54.980 and they move them around.
00:28:56.880 But, you know, it's better than I do.
00:28:58.840 You get a priest that dares speak the truth.
00:29:02.400 Again, I won't name names, but it's wrong to vote for Democrats
00:29:05.820 because they promote abortion and that sort of thing.
00:29:09.620 And a priest like that gets thrown out for speaking the truth,
00:29:13.440 but yet these perverts get moved around.
00:29:16.800 So there is no due process.
00:29:18.800 So, again, that's a sure sign with all the canceled priests.
00:29:22.580 In my mind, I've got 30 years' experience.
00:29:25.960 I know the homosexual clergy better than anybody doing this
00:29:29.440 because I've read hundreds of their emails to each other,
00:29:32.200 and I've been fighting it for so long.
00:29:33.900 But when a priest can't get due process,
00:29:36.440 and they're punishing priests for being honest and speaking the truth,
00:29:41.840 and they're protecting those bad ones,
00:29:43.660 that's the surest sign of the total corruption.
00:29:46.600 But also, I know things that people don't know,
00:29:49.000 and some things I won't repeat and can't say, I'm working on.
00:29:52.980 You look at the money laundering situation and all the abuse cases,
00:29:57.860 what people see is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:30:01.100 Everybody knows that because what comes out,
00:30:03.420 what they get caught at is just a small part.
00:30:06.280 And that whole fiasco in London that's going on that trial right now
00:30:10.800 and that so-called money from the Vatican,
00:30:13.140 I've got documents from an insider that suggest there's a different problem there.
00:30:21.020 But I don't go public with anything until I've got dead certain I've got the proof,
00:30:26.640 and also the Jordanian that contact me.
00:30:28.660 There's a court case in California right now.
00:30:32.240 I've got 2,000 pages of documents I can send you.
00:30:35.380 And it's an individual who filed, Benjamin Soniani, his name is public,
00:30:40.540 he knows I mentioned it.
00:30:41.900 I've got all the court documents.
00:30:43.220 He was hired to develop that American University in Madaba, Jordan.
00:30:50.460 And he was buying buses, developing the lab, finishing things off.
00:30:54.040 He was a developer that used to refurbish hotels and whatnot.
00:30:57.860 He's worked for the Jordanian government.
00:30:59.900 He's worked for the Vatican before, and he was hired to refurbish it.
00:31:02.840 And according to his lawsuit, in the documents in the lawsuit,
00:31:06.700 and I stayed at his home for a week,
00:31:08.860 I also visited him with an FBI investigator who specialized in money laundering
00:31:12.880 because I wanted to stay at his home
00:31:14.780 because if you can meet the wife and kids,
00:31:16.820 you sort of get a better feel for the guy.
00:31:19.440 And he gave me documents where he was given power of attorney over the Holy Land.
00:31:24.300 And he wondered, his cousin was the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem at the time.
00:31:32.380 And he also gave me documents.
00:31:35.760 I've got bank account numbers.
00:31:38.960 I've got banks he worked with.
00:31:41.160 I've got names of corporations set up by the Vatican,
00:31:45.040 according to Ben, and court documents to launder the money.
00:31:47.960 This is all in court documents.
00:31:49.300 But the key here is now, the Vatican is desperately trying to fight jurisdiction
00:31:54.940 because his businesses is a Jordanian but a nationalized citizen.
00:31:59.500 His businesses will run out of California, Indiana, New Hampshire.
00:32:03.320 And a lot of the money laundering was conducted here,
00:32:06.660 according to the documents.
00:32:08.280 And I've got his power of attorney in the Arabic language,
00:32:12.260 if that's Aramaic or whatever it was, and English.
00:32:14.760 I've got both.
00:32:16.080 I've got all the bills.
00:32:17.420 I've got private emails.
00:32:18.600 I've got all the email addresses from the Vatican officials.
00:32:21.900 I've got their bank account numbers.
00:32:23.380 The banks involved, the big oil.
00:32:25.180 I've got all that stuff from court documents.
00:32:28.600 And it's public now.
00:32:30.140 If I have it, people have nowhere to get it.
00:32:33.240 But I've met the key player.
00:32:34.580 He didn't realize what he was doing or what he thought he was helping the church
00:32:38.840 until he started producing all these bills for work that was never getting done.
00:32:42.980 And then the Chinese, he's told me, the deal that Willie killed it for him
00:32:48.260 was when they wanted to do a deal called Green City with the Chinese
00:32:51.660 for a recreation area around the American University of Malibu, a green area.
00:32:57.500 They call it Green City.
00:32:59.080 And he said, Stephen, and it's in the court documents that the work wasn't done.
00:33:05.020 And he says he talks in there in the court documents about the money laundering.
00:33:08.220 That's the only reason I'll repeat that, because it's in the court documents.
00:33:11.720 But the thing that bothers me the most, all this corruption,
00:33:16.040 they're going after President Trump for records.
00:33:20.080 Now, this has been in the courts in California for eight years, nine years.
00:33:26.320 And in there are sworn statements.
00:33:30.400 See, he had power of attorney, Benjamin did.
00:33:32.180 When he left the country, they confiscated all his property, his holdings,
00:33:36.800 when he refused to do it anymore.
00:33:38.660 The Vatican worked with the Jordanian government.
00:33:41.480 With power of attorney, he had all the documents,
00:33:43.360 because he had a legal right to all the documents.
00:33:45.440 I've got them all.
00:33:46.900 And most of them are in the court record.
00:33:48.740 No federal agent has knocked on his door to investigate money laundering.
00:33:55.660 He claims took place in this country between the Chinese and the corrupt Vatican officials.
00:34:01.340 Now, this is his claim.
00:34:03.320 I realize it.
00:34:04.760 And it's not proven in a court of law yet, but it's filed in a court case.
00:34:10.760 He's got lawyers fighting for him.
00:34:12.740 And the Vatican is fighting just to try to get jurisdiction back over there.
00:34:16.760 And Benjamin told me he won't live if he's taken over there.
00:34:21.480 He's convinced of that.
00:34:23.200 He said, what was the exact words?
00:34:26.020 Taken over where?
00:34:27.060 Taken to Jordan, or they want to do it in Jordan.
00:34:30.260 Well, it's in the Holy Land.
00:34:31.720 And he said, Stephen, the key to find out now is who set this up and who's running it now.
00:34:39.840 And he said, my wife and I were in a hotel.
00:34:43.840 We were in the middle of all this.
00:34:45.420 He names the money launderer in the documents.
00:34:49.500 I'm not going to repeat it here.
00:34:50.920 I'll let people who can get the documents.
00:34:52.420 I'll give them to them.
00:34:53.640 But he was in a hotel with his wife.
00:34:56.800 And Benjamin was a developer.
00:34:58.640 He was wealthy.
00:34:59.400 He stayed at a lot of hotels free because he was connected to all the big hotels
00:35:03.680 because he refurbished them if they got in problems.
00:35:06.320 He said his wife screamed.
00:35:07.820 And then he said, apparently somebody grabbed her foot.
00:35:12.420 Then somebody grabbed my foot.
00:35:14.640 And I jumped up and they were gone.
00:35:17.640 And he said, went into the living room.
00:35:21.260 He said, Stephen, on the furniture we went to suite, between my wife's mink, her jewelry, cash,
00:35:30.820 we had $30,000 sitting there.
00:35:33.520 It wasn't touched.
00:35:35.060 There was a hole cut in the glass in the window of the hotel room.
00:35:40.040 And he said, I know it was just a message for me.
00:35:44.880 And Ben has gone public because his name is all over these documents.
00:35:49.440 I have them, but they're filed in the court of law.
00:35:51.320 So, like I said, the allegations are there.
00:35:54.380 The documents are there.
00:35:56.780 The Vatican is still fighting it over jurisdiction.
00:36:00.580 I had dinner with his lawyer, as did church militants at the time.
00:36:06.420 And Benjamin, I had dinner with him and his lawyer.
00:36:09.360 And his lawyer told me that, oh, the Secretary of State, what's his name?
00:36:16.980 Parolin.
00:36:17.560 Parolin would be deposed.
00:36:18.940 Parolin would be deposed because the front page of the lawsuit names all the officials.
00:36:24.680 And it's just another instance where you don't lose faith,
00:36:30.380 but you darn sure want to get something done about it.
00:36:32.720 But the feds have an obligation to look into this
00:36:37.380 since court documents accuse the Vatican of money laundering
00:36:41.500 with the Chinese in this country taking place.
00:36:44.260 And I don't, actually, I've got a few friends because ATF approached me for help once.
00:36:51.900 FBI has come to me for some information years ago.
00:36:54.900 I was called up to Chicago to help in the Frank Pellegrini murder case.
00:36:58.580 The prosecutor called me up there in 2000, 2001.
00:37:02.060 And so on and so forth.
00:37:05.880 And I've had federal agents feed me information about corruption
00:37:13.380 with a state prosecutor in other states and want me to do something about it.
00:37:19.880 What that, and here again, I'm thinking like when I get a call about something from the Vatican,
00:37:25.400 me, I'm a nobody, but there's something, you know, because of my recognition
00:37:32.300 or because of interviews, they're so frustrated themselves.
00:37:36.680 I've got a former New York City detective journal.
00:37:42.400 He's in his 80s now from New York.
00:37:45.180 And he talks about Pope John Paul I's murder in there
00:37:50.080 because he knew he was part of the investigation.
00:37:53.560 He talks about Kennedy's murder, JFK.
00:37:58.160 And I'm not going to repeat what's in there because it's now coming out,
00:38:02.720 how really Kennedy was killed.
00:38:04.460 It talks about the Bay of Pigs.
00:38:07.060 And there's different things.
00:38:08.920 And it's so the long answer to your short question, do I see anything good?
00:38:14.340 No, I think if there is a criminal enterprise within the hierarchy,
00:38:22.320 but my thought is if they enter the hierarchy without a true love for Christ and his church,
00:38:30.480 what are they there for if not a criminal enterprise?
00:38:33.740 Because can you really fear God and believe in hell
00:38:36.860 if you commit a sacrilege and give holy communion to a world leader
00:38:40.580 who's done more to promote abortion than anybody else?
00:38:43.340 Can you really fear God and can you really believe in hell if you do?
00:38:48.200 Can you love your fellow man if you do that
00:38:49.980 because you're sending this world leader to hell or helping him?
00:38:53.360 And it's so many instances like you see homosexuality protected,
00:38:56.920 but then you come right back to what I was talking about, the canceled priests.
00:39:01.760 They protect those that rape children,
00:39:06.360 but they persecute those who speak the truth.
00:39:10.200 To put some flesh on those bones, I want to name some names
00:39:13.080 because it's really important so people can get a feel for what they're talking about.
00:39:18.200 Cardinal Ted McCarrick was the chief person in Washington.
00:39:24.180 He sort of ran the U.S. church.
00:39:26.160 He appointed other cardinals.
00:39:28.520 He was the lead figure on who should be appointed bishop in America and so on.
00:39:32.880 He had so much clout that in 2004 when they were discussing denying holy communion to pro-abortion politicians,
00:39:42.900 he was appointed the head of that committee.
00:39:45.680 And when at the time Cardinal Ratzinger,
00:39:48.000 who was the prefect for the Congregation of Faith,
00:39:53.320 was asked by Pope John Paul to intervene into that debate
00:39:57.940 with the U.S. Bishops' Conference Committee headed by McCarrick,
00:40:02.740 Ratzinger sent in the letter saying pro-abortion politicians must be denied holy communion.
00:40:08.060 McCarrick got that letter and concealed it from the rest of the bishops.
00:40:12.440 Burke sat on that committee and wanted to have that letter.
00:40:16.180 It only became known after the fact.
00:40:19.240 When we first published the letter called Worthiness to Receive Communion,
00:40:24.140 no one had heard of it before.
00:40:25.900 It was published by Marco Tazzotti by LifeSide.
00:40:28.760 Immediately, McCarrick's office was like, oh, no, that's not true.
00:40:32.160 Ratzinger's office then replied, well, yes, it is the document.
00:40:35.140 And that's when all hell broke loose.
00:40:37.160 Well, and you bring that up at a crucial time
00:40:40.280 because I knew the perversion in McCarrick's life in 2002.
00:40:45.220 Chris Fieri from the American Catholic Lawyers Association
00:40:48.420 wrote an article about it in 2002.
00:40:51.320 I have all of Randi Engel's files she gave me since she retired.
00:40:55.720 And, you know, she wrote the book on a lot of this stuff
00:40:58.120 and a lot of reports on this.
00:40:59.320 So you're absolutely right.
00:41:01.200 At a time when the hierarchy knew
00:41:04.240 what he was up to regarding homosexual activity,
00:41:08.560 whether it be minors or seminarians or what have you,
00:41:12.620 they were letting him run the show.
00:41:14.380 But to Cardinal Ratzinger's credit,
00:41:19.400 when I introduced, when I found St. Sebastian's Angels,
00:41:23.700 some of the clergy threatened to turn me over to the FBI
00:41:27.000 for hacking their website.
00:41:28.760 I didn't hack it.
00:41:29.500 I had somebody on the inside.
00:41:31.560 No cardinal wanted any of the information I had,
00:41:34.860 but the FBI did.
00:41:36.080 Because one of the participants, a priest,
00:41:40.500 who was in Mexico at the time,
00:41:43.020 sent out an email with a picture of a 12-year-old boy.
00:41:46.700 He said, this is my guide.
00:41:48.380 He's not my current lover.
00:41:51.360 That's from a priest.
00:41:52.540 And I had a picture of the boy.
00:41:54.440 It was on the back of one of my newsletters.
00:41:56.220 And, but, so, this was a time,
00:42:00.300 this was right around this same time.
00:42:03.220 It was around 2000, I exposed it.
00:42:05.180 But, yeah, let me just explain,
00:42:07.240 because a lot of people won't know
00:42:08.520 what St. Sebastian's Angels is.
00:42:10.500 So, there was this website being used
00:42:14.860 by priests and bishops who were Sodomites
00:42:19.780 and into homosexual activity,
00:42:21.740 and they would communicate through this site
00:42:23.440 called St. Sebastian's Angels.
00:42:24.600 They would all send emails in together.
00:42:26.460 Some of them were stupid enough
00:42:28.240 to have their pictures on the website.
00:42:30.380 I was able to identify a lot of them
00:42:32.800 through the emails,
00:42:34.020 but the website had a video loop,
00:42:38.560 a pornographic video loop on it.
00:42:41.100 And I won't say exactly what it was,
00:42:43.520 because in mixed company that might see this,
00:42:45.640 I shouldn't.
00:42:46.700 But that was, someone on the inside
00:42:50.380 was so offended by the pictures
00:42:53.260 and by what they were saying.
00:42:55.360 I had emails, and Bishop Kalka
00:42:58.560 of Cape Town, South Africa was involved.
00:43:00.400 I can mention his name
00:43:01.280 because it's been in the paper.
00:43:03.020 And they were talking about one priest
00:43:06.540 that had the site,
00:43:07.520 was talking about celibacy.
00:43:09.940 And as long as they were convinced,
00:43:12.100 because they said it in their emails,
00:43:13.520 as long as they didn't have relations
00:43:15.400 with the woman, they were celibate.
00:43:16.860 Yeah, that's key, actually,
00:43:19.340 because to understand that in their thinking,
00:43:23.280 warped as it is,
00:43:24.680 their own theology around maintaining their vows.
00:43:29.660 Yeah.
00:43:30.260 So they're saying,
00:43:32.260 they're still celibate.
00:43:33.120 Don't worry.
00:43:34.100 We're just sodomizing one another.
00:43:35.780 That's not sexual relations.
00:43:36.380 They were talking to themselves.
00:43:37.720 And one of the priests
00:43:39.800 who was actually very prominent
00:43:44.660 with the one religious website in Rome
00:43:46.880 changed the Our Father
00:43:48.680 to ask God to bless their orgasms.
00:43:51.060 But there was a priest from Georgia, Atlanta,
00:43:54.640 that asked for prayers
00:43:55.720 because his boyfriend he met at a health club
00:43:59.380 had to go back to another state to his wife.
00:44:03.440 And I'm pulling,
00:44:04.960 oh, my Lord,
00:44:07.280 can't they see the problem here?
00:44:09.900 Do they believe in God at all?
00:44:12.160 Or they can't?
00:44:12.920 And they're giving their prayer,
00:44:14.140 oh, Father, we're sorry for you.
00:44:16.620 And it's just mind-boggling.
00:44:19.140 But what troubled me more than anything?
00:44:21.120 Cardinal Ratzinger accepted some of the information.
00:44:24.340 He worked with it on the bishop's case.
00:44:27.380 And the bishop had to go see the cardinal
00:44:31.000 when he was Congregation for the Defense of the Faith,
00:44:34.300 if I'm saying that properly.
00:44:36.200 And another bishop in this country
00:44:38.660 and another priest hooked me up with Cardinal Ratzinger.
00:44:40.780 I won't use their names because they're still alive.
00:44:42.640 But anyway, I sent the information over there.
00:44:47.160 And then I verified to Cardinal Ratzinger
00:44:50.120 that I was honest
00:44:50.980 because once he called the bishop in to meet with him,
00:44:54.320 the bishop, not knowing I was still monitoring all the emails,
00:44:57.940 came out and talked about Cardinal Ratzinger.
00:45:00.540 He referred to him as a rat.
00:45:02.460 And he said this and that.
00:45:03.920 He said various things about some of his staff.
00:45:06.020 I won't repeat here.
00:45:07.420 And he talked about the meeting
00:45:09.240 and how this Brady interfered.
00:45:10.720 But he said something that interests me.
00:45:12.960 He said,
00:45:13.480 I talked to a bishop about Brady back in the States.
00:45:18.960 And one of the American bishops said,
00:45:20.720 yeah, ignore him.
00:45:22.120 Every bishop over here thinks he's a nut.
00:45:24.840 And so that was,
00:45:26.300 I wore it of a badge of honor,
00:45:27.600 but it gave me a little sense of what I was up against.
00:45:30.940 But no,
00:45:31.460 then I sent Cardinal Ratzinger comments
00:45:34.520 on what the bishop was saying after the meeting
00:45:37.200 so he could verify that I was telling him the truth
00:45:40.380 because I knew everything that happened
00:45:42.160 in the meeting he had with the bishop.
00:45:43.920 But it was,
00:45:44.920 it was,
00:45:46.160 it was just disgusting.
00:45:48.060 But it's,
00:45:49.640 it's nothing's changed.
00:45:50.940 I haven't come across a website like that,
00:45:53.120 but the beauty of it is
00:45:54.400 by just having a big mouth,
00:45:57.100 if you will,
00:45:57.640 and speaking my opinion,
00:45:59.100 I don't,
00:46:02.040 I tell my wife,
00:46:02.960 and I tell,
00:46:03.720 I don't care what people think about me
00:46:05.280 as long as I'm right with God.
00:46:07.140 But stuff comes to me.
00:46:08.980 People will come to me with stuff
00:46:10.720 simply because
00:46:12.180 maybe he'll say something,
00:46:14.160 maybe he'll do something,
00:46:15.720 you know,
00:46:16.000 and something like that.
00:46:17.040 They're just so frustrated
00:46:18.000 because they got no place to go.
00:46:20.320 And it's,
00:46:21.200 Bishop Ruskowitz made the comment
00:46:22.700 in Dallas in 2002.
00:46:24.940 He said,
00:46:25.740 when there's a problem within the hierarchy
00:46:27.660 and there's a void in the leadership,
00:46:29.660 somebody's going to step in
00:46:30.960 to fill that void.
00:46:32.080 That's why you've got all these
00:46:33.380 tangent religious organizations
00:46:35.840 and groups
00:46:36.400 and people seeing things.
00:46:37.860 People are just looking for the faith
00:46:39.540 because they can't find it
00:46:41.640 in this hierarchy.
00:46:42.860 There is no faith there.
00:46:44.200 And they prove it
00:46:45.260 time and time again
00:46:46.400 with all these scandals.
00:46:47.920 And McCarrick is,
00:46:48.860 is such a prime example.
00:46:50.760 They let him go to hell
00:46:51.920 on a path to hell,
00:46:53.340 staying on a path to hell
00:46:54.340 and didn't stop him.
00:46:55.800 Yeah.
00:46:56.280 That's fascinating
00:46:57.180 because it's,
00:46:59.080 it's one of the things
00:47:00.420 that you keep saying
00:47:02.540 and is very interesting.
00:47:03.440 These,
00:47:03.780 these men have done
00:47:04.460 really,
00:47:04.980 really,
00:47:05.260 really heinous things.
00:47:06.900 But your goal
00:47:07.940 is not to kill them
00:47:09.180 or,
00:47:09.660 or,
00:47:09.960 or punish them per se
00:47:11.160 is to save their souls.
00:47:12.840 The first letter
00:47:13.660 I sent to Bishop Ryan,
00:47:14.880 I made that comment.
00:47:16.360 You know,
00:47:16.720 I wanted to,
00:47:17.400 and Father Hardin said,
00:47:18.480 Stephen,
00:47:18.980 tell him that I will talk to him
00:47:20.560 and help him
00:47:21.120 because,
00:47:22.560 and it comes back to my family
00:47:24.760 and seven kids.
00:47:25.540 And you know,
00:47:26.140 I've had problems
00:47:27.060 in my own family
00:47:27.880 with siblings and whatnot.
00:47:29.200 But you think of that,
00:47:30.600 I think of that kid
00:47:31.660 sitting in jail,
00:47:32.480 Frank Bergen,
00:47:33.120 and prayed my mother
00:47:33.900 would come get me
00:47:34.580 one more time.
00:47:35.780 Everybody's one of God's children
00:47:37.240 and God loves everybody.
00:47:39.500 And their free choice,
00:47:41.500 you know,
00:47:42.700 dictates what's going to happen
00:47:44.540 in their future.
00:47:45.380 But no,
00:47:45.700 nobody,
00:47:46.340 nobody around Ryan,
00:47:48.420 his vicar general
00:47:49.240 knew what was going on.
00:47:50.360 His chancellor knew
00:47:51.140 what was going on.
00:47:52.140 Half the priests
00:47:52.960 in the diocese,
00:47:53.580 I know that for a fact
00:47:54.840 because when they finally
00:47:56.180 hired Bill Roberts,
00:47:57.200 the former federal prosecutor
00:47:58.360 to investigate it,
00:47:59.440 he wanted all my files
00:48:00.600 and I spoke to him at length.
00:48:02.240 Nobody around him
00:48:03.660 within the diocese
00:48:05.020 cared enough to stop him.
00:48:06.180 Nobody in McCarrick's circle,
00:48:07.960 I don't care,
00:48:08.640 he didn't have to be
00:48:09.260 a superior.
00:48:10.760 I wasn't a superior
00:48:12.000 of Bishop Ryan
00:48:12.780 when I exposed him.
00:48:14.300 I mean,
00:48:14.620 I was just a nobody
00:48:15.760 who they rightfully said,
00:48:18.180 you got no authority.
00:48:19.140 I said,
00:48:19.480 no,
00:48:19.620 I don't have authority,
00:48:20.200 but I got a right,
00:48:21.560 you know,
00:48:21.920 under God
00:48:22.680 to do what's right.
00:48:23.960 But no,
00:48:24.300 it's just,
00:48:25.400 people don't know
00:48:26.600 what love means.
00:48:27.900 They think charity
00:48:28.680 is giving somebody
00:48:29.540 some money.
00:48:31.000 But so many Catholics
00:48:32.860 and the men especially,
00:48:35.520 because I've said
00:48:37.400 a million times,
00:48:39.080 every time I,
00:48:40.060 give me a hundred good men
00:48:41.300 and I'll take the church back.
00:48:43.000 I mean,
00:48:43.640 because really,
00:48:45.040 there's women
00:48:45.760 that always stand with you
00:48:46.840 and fight very few men
00:48:48.180 and it's the fact that
00:48:50.240 right now with the feminist movement
00:48:53.420 and the culture,
00:48:55.560 and this is another big part of it,
00:48:57.280 while you know there's a problem,
00:48:59.140 the Catholic Church
00:49:00.000 used to be the moral guidepost.
00:49:01.520 It still isn't today.
00:49:02.960 That'll be a sign
00:49:03.820 it's coming back
00:49:04.640 when they're once again
00:49:05.740 a moral guidepost.
00:49:07.060 They hold politicians accountable.
00:49:10.180 There used to be
00:49:10.680 a decency code in the movies
00:49:12.120 until the 70s
00:49:13.240 where that's why
00:49:14.120 Father Knows Best
00:49:14.960 had separate beds
00:49:15.820 for Mom and Dad.
00:49:16.840 You know,
00:49:17.420 and there was a code
00:49:18.460 and that's all thrown
00:49:20.520 out the window.
00:49:21.300 But,
00:49:22.520 and with the young people,
00:49:24.660 and this was the greatest scandal
00:49:26.280 committed by Cardinal Gregory
00:49:28.220 in my opinion.
00:49:29.820 Because when a cardinal,
00:49:31.720 a man of God,
00:49:33.220 before the whole world,
00:49:35.120 gives communion to Biden
00:49:36.520 who's promoted abortion
00:49:38.260 to the nth degree,
00:49:40.180 I'm a teenage boy.
00:49:42.020 I am.
00:49:44.540 Well,
00:49:45.040 obviously,
00:49:46.160 the cardinal
00:49:46.700 isn't going to send him to hell
00:49:47.660 because he's a man of God.
00:49:49.060 If he gives him communion,
00:49:51.640 well,
00:49:51.840 then I can get communion
00:49:52.760 no matter what.
00:49:53.520 You know,
00:49:53.780 it trivializes what
00:49:54.720 this kid might want to do
00:49:56.280 with,
00:49:57.080 whether it's cohabitation
00:49:58.100 or whatnot,
00:49:58.540 but it's sort of,
00:50:00.300 is there a hell?
00:50:01.620 Is that the real presence?
00:50:03.360 The cardinal Gregory,
00:50:04.620 if he feared God,
00:50:05.760 he never could have done that
00:50:06.900 because it was so public.
00:50:09.200 And then what made it worse,
00:50:11.220 in my opinion,
00:50:12.040 and I look at things so simply
00:50:13.520 because you have to.
00:50:14.800 You can't overthink it
00:50:15.840 because most Catholics
00:50:17.640 don't know theology
00:50:18.920 or anything like that,
00:50:19.800 like I don't,
00:50:20.380 but it was thrown back
00:50:21.980 to the Pope,
00:50:23.000 and I'm paraphrasing here,
00:50:24.360 but he basically told
00:50:25.340 the American bishops
00:50:26.140 to work it out.
00:50:27.520 But if I was Pope
00:50:28.840 and he mocked Christ
00:50:31.300 in the worst possible way,
00:50:32.880 I would be screaming
00:50:34.080 from the rooftops
00:50:34.900 if I truly believe
00:50:36.020 that was God
00:50:37.160 and I was the ultimate power
00:50:39.000 in this world.
00:50:40.680 And that's,
00:50:41.220 there's so many ways
00:50:42.340 to look at this
00:50:43.180 where it proves
00:50:44.140 that they haven't changed
00:50:45.240 and,
00:50:46.340 and,
00:50:46.780 No, I know.
00:50:48.520 I mean,
00:50:48.840 the situation
00:50:49.740 in the higher echelons
00:50:51.560 of the hierarchy,
00:50:52.420 if you will,
00:50:52.960 have gotten much worse.
00:50:53.980 It was Francis
00:50:55.360 by Biden's testimony
00:50:56.900 who told Biden
00:50:59.280 to go ahead and receive
00:51:00.300 and then that's sort of
00:51:02.120 supported by the fact
00:51:03.140 that Nancy Pelosi
00:51:03.920 was denied Holy Communion
00:51:05.060 by her own bishop,
00:51:06.420 Archbishop Corsese,
00:51:07.160 Corleone,
00:51:07.820 after 10 years
00:51:08.560 of trying to convince
00:51:09.300 her otherwise.
00:51:10.140 And then the Pope
00:51:11.420 criticized Corleone twice,
00:51:13.160 publicly.
00:51:13.840 And then when Pelosi
00:51:15.180 went over to Rome,
00:51:16.380 she received communion
00:51:17.280 at the Papal Mass.
00:51:19.300 And that was the day
00:51:20.300 that Pope Francis
00:51:22.000 released the document
00:51:23.600 Desiderio desideravi
00:51:24.920 that says falsely
00:51:26.040 that all you need
00:51:27.260 to receive Holy Communion
00:51:28.060 is faith.
00:51:29.400 So, yeah,
00:51:30.520 that part of the hierarchy
00:51:31.660 for sure is corrupt.
00:51:32.840 I was just hoping
00:51:33.380 that the American hierarchy
00:51:34.420 might have improved some.
00:51:35.360 No, just in the little,
00:51:37.060 really, that's why
00:51:37.960 this venue here
00:51:39.720 with the canceled priest
00:51:40.820 I think is so important
00:51:42.040 because I think
00:51:45.200 it's going to help
00:51:46.000 split things.
00:51:48.360 You know,
00:51:49.080 I don't mean a schism
00:51:50.680 or anything like that,
00:51:51.560 but I mean,
00:51:52.460 we've got to,
00:51:53.420 we've got to make them own it.
00:51:55.140 We've got to call
00:51:55.760 the hierarchy out.
00:51:56.720 We've got to force them
00:51:57.660 to respond
00:51:58.640 and explain themselves.
00:52:00.160 and I think
00:52:00.700 if enough priests
00:52:02.040 and I told some
00:52:05.340 of these canceled priests,
00:52:06.440 I don't care
00:52:06.940 if they say
00:52:07.420 you're excommunicated.
00:52:08.760 In my book,
00:52:10.160 once a priest,
00:52:11.080 always a priest.
00:52:11.840 If you show true love
00:52:12.740 for Christ and His church,
00:52:13.840 I'll go to you
00:52:14.520 for any sacraments
00:52:15.400 whatsoever.
00:52:16.480 And I said,
00:52:17.640 we've got to,
00:52:18.240 we've got to call
00:52:18.980 the hierarchy out
00:52:20.000 and if more of them
00:52:23.400 will stand up
00:52:24.680 and go against
00:52:28.360 the nonsense
00:52:29.000 that is coming out
00:52:30.460 of the higher echelons,
00:52:32.480 I think it'll force something.
00:52:35.040 But I would,
00:52:36.300 we recently had
00:52:37.280 a situation
00:52:38.180 where we called
00:52:39.500 for the bankruptcy law
00:52:40.640 to be changed
00:52:41.420 and so they couldn't
00:52:43.100 file bankruptcy
00:52:43.880 to avoid child abuse payments
00:52:46.620 or legal payments.
00:52:47.600 And I,
00:52:48.040 people would say,
00:52:48.840 you're going to force
00:52:50.900 them to sell churches.
00:52:51.980 So what?
00:52:53.420 What's a church?
00:52:54.380 It's a building.
00:52:55.480 I said,
00:52:55.980 I don't care
00:52:56.600 if I've got to have
00:52:57.620 the sacraments
00:52:59.000 in a gymnasium somewhere.
00:53:02.360 If these bishops
00:53:03.460 are stripped
00:53:04.060 of their money
00:53:04.740 and their power,
00:53:06.660 rightfully so,
00:53:07.700 because of what
00:53:08.320 they've allowed,
00:53:09.080 so be it.
00:53:10.320 God will take care of us.
00:53:11.420 That's where the faith
00:53:12.180 comes in.
00:53:13.260 And that moment
00:53:14.060 when I was near death,
00:53:16.280 you've got to trust
00:53:17.140 in God.
00:53:17.720 And I think,
00:53:18.840 if you've got
00:53:19.760 the canceled priest,
00:53:20.660 you've got the sacraments,
00:53:22.240 I don't need Rome.
00:53:24.300 I don't need a cathedral.
00:53:25.960 Sure,
00:53:27.020 the Pope,
00:53:28.060 our Lord did pick a Pope,
00:53:29.860 but after that,
00:53:33.020 it's sort of men
00:53:34.960 and the way
00:53:35.760 they've worked things out.
00:53:36.660 I don't know
00:53:37.240 technically the right thing
00:53:39.260 to say about
00:53:39.800 the right thing
00:53:40.360 to do about it,
00:53:40.900 but I know,
00:53:41.720 I won't trust any of them,
00:53:42.920 but I'll trust
00:53:43.440 a good, honest,
00:53:44.020 to goodness priest
00:53:44.760 who's got the faith
00:53:46.860 and like some
00:53:48.140 of the canceled priests
00:53:48.960 because we have
00:53:50.040 to force a stand.
00:53:51.400 We have to publicly
00:53:52.380 call out,
00:53:53.960 for example,
00:53:54.540 Gregory,
00:53:55.460 and publicly ask him,
00:53:56.920 maybe in a newspaper ad,
00:53:57.980 maybe something,
00:53:59.160 your eminence,
00:54:00.720 since you gave
00:54:01.520 Holy Communion
00:54:02.340 to our president,
00:54:03.780 do you believe
00:54:04.760 in the real presence?
00:54:05.980 If so,
00:54:07.000 do you hate
00:54:07.680 our president,
00:54:08.820 want to send him
00:54:09.380 to hell,
00:54:09.720 or do you not
00:54:10.840 believe in the real presence
00:54:11.840 or do you not care
00:54:12.620 if you go to hell?
00:54:13.720 I said,
00:54:14.240 just so we can
00:54:14.860 better understand,
00:54:16.360 just a simple questionnaire
00:54:17.820 like that
00:54:18.540 and then a public apology
00:54:20.400 to the entire country
00:54:24.040 of the United States
00:54:25.000 from every Catholic group
00:54:26.900 that'll muster
00:54:27.840 the wherewithal,
00:54:29.340 apologize for the destruction
00:54:30.580 of the culture
00:54:31.200 because the Catholic hierarchy
00:54:34.220 used to be
00:54:34.620 the moral guidepost
00:54:35.540 and the culture
00:54:37.880 is destroyed,
00:54:38.540 whether it be abortion
00:54:40.180 and we only have abortion
00:54:41.480 because the bishops
00:54:43.260 aren't doing their job.
00:54:44.600 I can't believe
00:54:45.720 for one minute,
00:54:46.780 I know what the good Lord
00:54:47.780 has done for me,
00:54:49.040 I can't believe
00:54:49.960 for one minute
00:54:50.760 that if every member
00:54:52.200 of the hierarchy
00:54:52.860 did their job
00:54:54.000 and did it right,
00:54:55.660 God would bless us
00:54:56.740 and abortion
00:54:57.760 would be over
00:54:58.360 because if you put
00:54:59.440 these politicians
00:55:00.260 on the spot
00:55:00.920 and told them
00:55:01.280 they're going to hell
00:55:01.980 and you kicked them
00:55:03.360 all out of the church
00:55:04.320 for their own good
00:55:06.280 to save their soul
00:55:07.320 because I think
00:55:09.400 things would change
00:55:10.240 but I've always been
00:55:11.660 accused of being
00:55:12.380 a little bit extreme
00:55:13.140 but I've got the job done.
00:55:15.600 I did it with my postcard
00:55:16.860 with Bishop Ryan,
00:55:18.300 I took on the Vatican,
00:55:20.380 I took on Chicago Archdiocese
00:55:22.640 and individual cases
00:55:23.920 and I beat them every time.
00:55:25.540 I've had a lot of success
00:55:26.840 in the political
00:55:27.580 and law enforcement realm
00:55:30.200 but I don't want
00:55:31.300 to go into that publicly
00:55:32.460 because it's too risky.
00:55:33.560 Sure, I do want to end on that
00:55:37.200 because you're men
00:55:39.940 of great faith,
00:55:41.000 you see clearly
00:55:42.700 the need to do
00:55:43.740 for their own good,
00:55:45.200 take these bishops
00:55:46.060 and cardinals to task
00:55:47.140 for the good of the church
00:55:47.940 as well
00:55:48.220 but it's also
00:55:48.640 for their salvation
00:55:49.440 but you've been given
00:55:51.420 a particular gift
00:55:52.720 also in terms of methodology
00:55:55.740 if you will.
00:55:56.780 You mentioned
00:55:59.920 get an ad in a newspaper.
00:56:02.900 Those cost lots of money
00:56:04.200 by the way
00:56:04.660 but it's doable
00:56:05.740 but if you got
00:56:06.860 as you said before
00:56:07.740 an ad in a newspaper
00:56:09.320 a full paid ad
00:56:10.180 in the paper
00:56:11.540 of where the particular
00:56:12.980 cardinal or bishop is
00:56:14.060 it puts pressure on him.
00:56:17.020 Tell us about this postcard.
00:56:18.220 What postcard?
00:56:18.840 So you sent a postcard?
00:56:19.840 I had a picture of
00:56:21.100 I had a protest sign
00:56:22.860 when I was trying
00:56:24.600 to get rid of Bishop Ryan.
00:56:25.600 It's when the Vatican
00:56:27.000 started threatening me.
00:56:29.040 I took a picture
00:56:30.120 we had a protest sign
00:56:31.200 it was a 10 foot long sign
00:56:32.880 3 foot tall
00:56:34.400 it said
00:56:35.540 a disgrace to the
00:56:36.620 Catholic hierarchy
00:56:37.500 Bishop Ryan
00:56:38.660 has been having sex
00:56:39.600 with teenage boys
00:56:40.620 Bishop Ryan
00:56:41.660 had sex with priests
00:56:42.740 and there were
00:56:43.760 3 people holding it
00:56:44.880 and I had a picture taken
00:56:46.160 and I put that
00:56:47.320 color picture
00:56:47.900 on a postcard.
00:56:49.260 I sent that postcard
00:56:51.080 in Illinois
00:56:52.660 about every law enforcement
00:56:55.520 agency
00:56:55.840 every city council
00:56:56.880 every YMC
00:56:58.260 every YWCA
00:56:59.660 I was sending out
00:57:01.160 thousands
00:57:01.620 I paid to have
00:57:02.800 them printed up
00:57:03.440 and there was
00:57:04.520 a little message
00:57:05.020 on the back
00:57:05.700 I use a postcard
00:57:07.200 because everybody
00:57:07.900 sees it.
00:57:09.180 I got a letter
00:57:10.720 from the postal inspector
00:57:11.900 threatening me
00:57:12.440 with criminal prosecution
00:57:13.520 so
00:57:15.240 I had a lawyer friend
00:57:17.600 they were
00:57:19.220 they wanted
00:57:20.420 they said
00:57:20.940 writing a letter
00:57:21.640 they wanted to stop
00:57:22.800 all my mailings
00:57:23.660 I also had a newsletter
00:57:24.740 and everything
00:57:25.160 and it was
00:57:26.900 it was technical
00:57:28.180 because
00:57:29.340 they were using
00:57:31.020 a law that was
00:57:31.700 accusing me
00:57:32.300 of blackmail
00:57:33.000 and like I was
00:57:35.640 threatening Ryan
00:57:36.620 to do this
00:57:37.300 or I'll do that
00:57:38.100 and my lawyer
00:57:39.220 sent him
00:57:39.680 threatened the
00:57:40.200 civil rights lawsuit
00:57:41.120 and told him
00:57:41.720 Brady didn't injure
00:57:43.760 the bishops
00:57:44.380 or didn't threaten
00:57:45.480 to injure
00:57:45.980 the bishops reputation
00:57:47.100 he simply injured it
00:57:48.620 which is a difference
00:57:50.640 in law
00:57:51.320 and you can understand that
00:57:53.180 and that did a lot of good
00:57:55.320 and when I got them
00:57:56.660 to kick Planned Parenthood
00:57:57.700 out of the school
00:57:58.420 which started all this
00:57:59.660 in 94
00:58:01.420 93
00:58:02.320 95
00:58:02.800 when they started
00:58:04.740 destroying the sense
00:58:05.900 of shame my children
00:58:06.840 have in destroying
00:58:07.580 their innocence
00:58:08.060 I bought a lot
00:58:09.440 across from the courthouse
00:58:10.580 and I put up
00:58:12.020 a big billboard
00:58:13.040 that said
00:58:13.600 Planned Parenthood
00:58:15.860 the largest abortion
00:58:17.500 provider
00:58:18.100 has been allowed
00:58:18.800 to teach
00:58:19.320 in our high school
00:58:20.080 if they cannot
00:58:21.500 abort our children
00:58:22.700 the least we can do
00:58:23.760 is let them educate
00:58:24.660 the ones they missed
00:58:25.640 our school boards
00:58:27.020 should be proud
00:58:27.600 the thing with that is
00:58:28.840 I didn't actually
00:58:29.760 believe that
00:58:30.480 but
00:58:30.860 it said it
00:58:32.540 it made it
00:58:33.340 it made it so clear
00:58:34.780 it brought it out
00:58:36.180 into the public
00:58:36.960 you're letting them
00:58:37.880 educate the ones
00:58:38.620 they missed
00:58:39.120 and it
00:58:40.380 it brought things
00:58:41.840 into perspective
00:58:42.920 into reality
00:58:43.680 we lost so much
00:58:45.220 business
00:58:45.560 in our pizza place
00:58:46.400 people hated it
00:58:47.140 the mayor told me
00:58:47.800 to take it down
00:58:48.560 one night
00:58:49.560 a city alderman
00:58:50.300 cut it down
00:58:51.080 and was arrested
00:58:53.220 and they called me up
00:58:54.620 to come in
00:58:55.220 to sign a complaint
00:58:56.100 they were going to
00:58:56.680 let him go
00:58:57.180 it was a Sunday morning
00:58:57.980 two in the morning
00:58:58.420 I said I was trained
00:58:59.540 as a federal officer
00:59:00.340 he's got to be arraigned
00:59:01.540 he's got to go before
00:59:02.400 no
00:59:02.680 it was all cut and dry
00:59:05.160 because I didn't know
00:59:06.160 all this at the time
00:59:07.060 so I went down there
00:59:08.600 and I signed the complaint
00:59:09.440 I seen who it was
00:59:10.280 they wouldn't let me
00:59:10.860 talk to him
00:59:11.360 he'd made some threats
00:59:12.260 there was a lot more
00:59:13.900 that went on
00:59:14.520 but it became
00:59:15.360 because it got into court
00:59:17.620 and he went into
00:59:19.200 this place of business
00:59:20.300 where a power company
00:59:21.240 to use their chainsaw
00:59:22.360 to go get it
00:59:23.180 in the middle of the night
00:59:23.680 to cut my sign down
00:59:25.720 I said your honor
00:59:27.440 if he'll resign
00:59:29.200 from the city council
00:59:30.280 and pay to have
00:59:31.860 the sign put back up
00:59:33.020 I don't want him
00:59:34.360 felony charges
00:59:35.120 I don't want to
00:59:35.660 destroy his life
00:59:36.540 there's some other
00:59:38.180 things that happened
00:59:38.820 in his life
00:59:39.320 I'm not going to get into
00:59:40.280 but there was
00:59:41.060 so much publicity
00:59:42.080 well anyway
00:59:43.540 the judge said
00:59:44.680 okay
00:59:45.040 that was picked up
00:59:47.140 by a pro-life magazine
00:59:50.380 in Chicago
00:59:52.120 and then it focused
00:59:53.040 on the family
00:59:53.620 picked it up
00:59:54.220 I was doing interviews
00:59:55.820 all over the country
00:59:57.000 on radio
00:59:57.620 people were sending me
00:59:59.200 money as some pro-life
01:00:00.360 leader
01:00:00.680 and it just
01:00:01.880 I just fell into this
01:00:03.120 by putting that sign up
01:00:04.600 and that was part of
01:00:05.860 making him own it
01:00:06.760 and it did
01:00:07.340 and it worked
01:00:07.880 because I had to
01:00:09.720 form a corporation
01:00:10.660 because I was
01:00:11.900 getting sent donations
01:00:12.820 and then that sign
01:00:14.900 was so truthful
01:00:16.580 so in their face
01:00:17.740 that they took
01:00:19.360 Planned Parenthood
01:00:19.920 out of school
01:00:20.440 shortly thereafter
01:00:21.340 and I took the sign down
01:00:22.440 but I formed RCF
01:00:24.200 and then
01:00:25.400 my investigations
01:00:27.400 because of all the
01:00:28.640 interviews I did
01:00:29.320 over that sign
01:00:30.140 I also brought in
01:00:31.760 the fact of
01:00:32.560 the diocese
01:00:35.060 Catholics were doing this
01:00:36.420 because no one was
01:00:37.600 no one was standing up
01:00:38.960 for the truth
01:00:39.500 no one was what they
01:00:40.880 claimed to be
01:00:41.520 within the hierarchy
01:00:42.360 and the priesthood
01:00:43.660 so then
01:00:44.740 that's when the
01:00:45.620 information started
01:00:46.460 to come in
01:00:46.940 with Roman Catholic
01:00:47.680 faithful
01:00:48.080 and the priest
01:00:48.660 and the bishops
01:00:49.700 and it just blossomed
01:00:51.440 from there
01:00:51.900 I mean I did work
01:00:53.320 in South Africa
01:00:54.760 Ireland
01:00:55.380 Australia
01:00:56.380 New Zealand
01:00:57.220 Canada
01:00:59.180 Mexico
01:00:59.720 it was just
01:01:00.700 people were so desperate
01:01:02.540 for somebody
01:01:03.480 just to fight for them
01:01:04.860 I met a bishop
01:01:06.180 in Poland
01:01:06.860 Marian Frankowski
01:01:08.340 a bishop from Poland
01:01:09.280 who was in Chicago
01:01:10.180 and he just asked me
01:01:12.340 he said
01:01:12.700 he did an interview
01:01:13.580 with me that played
01:01:14.300 on Radio Maria
01:01:15.120 all over the world
01:01:16.720 and he said
01:01:17.520 Stephen
01:01:17.920 give the young people
01:01:19.760 something to fight for
01:01:20.660 and that's what I did
01:01:22.660 beautiful
01:01:23.440 beautiful
01:01:24.560 Stephen
01:01:25.600 thank you so very much
01:01:26.720 thank you
01:01:27.060 God bless you
01:01:27.620 I talk too much
01:01:28.560 sometimes
01:01:29.080 but
01:01:29.400 no but we should
01:01:30.480 keep in mind
01:01:31.260 we need to keep in mind
01:01:32.800 that you got to
01:01:33.420 make them own it
01:01:34.260 yeah
01:01:34.660 that's the key
01:01:36.060 and there's ways
01:01:37.180 to do that
01:01:37.880 without threatening them
01:01:40.020 you don't even have
01:01:41.320 to name names
01:01:42.080 but if you just point out
01:01:43.800 in a very public way
01:01:45.140 like apologize
01:01:46.960 for the corruption
01:01:47.860 of the culture
01:01:49.420 what do you
01:01:51.060 and you name a few things
01:01:52.420 and you point out
01:01:53.980 the fallacy
01:01:54.960 and what's going on
01:01:55.960 you got to make them
01:01:57.340 respond
01:01:57.860 and that's
01:01:59.080 I play the game
01:02:01.500 better than anybody
01:02:02.240 it's not a game
01:02:02.980 it's a
01:02:03.600 it's
01:02:04.740 it's a faith
01:02:05.620 and a family
01:02:06.800 and I've got both
01:02:07.820 so
01:02:08.160 that's where we are
01:02:09.980 but thank you
01:02:10.620 thank you
01:02:11.380 and God bless all of you
01:02:12.760 and we'll see you next time
01:02:14.240 and we'll see you next time
01:02:15.240 and we'll see you next time
01:02:16.120 and we'll see you next time
01:02:16.920 time
01:02:21.760 and they'll see you next time
01:02:23.420 and they'll see you next time
01:02:24.980 and they'll see you next time
01:02:25.520 and they'll see you next time
01:02:25.780 and they'll see you next time
01:02:26.080 and they'll see you next time
01:02:27.420 and they'll see you next time
01:02:28.840 and they'll see you next time
01:02:29.660 and they'll see you next time
01:02:30.500 and they'll see you next time
01:02:33.060 and they'll see you next time
01:02:33.820 and they'll see you next time
01:02:34.980 and they'll see you next time
01:02:35.760 and they'll see you next time
01:02:36.280 and they'll see you next time
01:02:37.440 and they'll see you next time
01:02:38.480 and they'll see you next time
01:02:38.780 and they'll see you next time
01:02:39.860 and they'll see you next time
01:02:40.440 and then they'll see you next time
01:02:42.220 and you'll see me next time
01:02:42.700 and they'll see me next time