The John-Henry Westen Show - May 21, 2021


Pastor Artur Pawlowski arrested for refusing to shut church tells all


Summary

Pastor Artur Pawlowski is a hero in Canada for standing up for freedom of worship and standing up to the communist regime. Pastor Artur is a Polish-born Canadian who grew up behind the Iron Curtain and saw firsthand the horrors of communist oppression.


Transcript

00:00:00.580 Hello and welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where we are going to be
00:00:04.200 speaking with someone who has hit the headlines in a big way.
00:00:07.240 He's a Canadian pastor who is one of those pastors who really, really made it to viral
00:00:14.580 status by actually defending the faith in his church, by actually defending the freedom
00:00:20.480 to worship in Canada, where there's so much obeisance and letting it go, letting everything
00:00:28.000 go, shutting down of churches.
00:00:29.600 We've seen that.
00:00:30.620 But a few pastors have stood up.
00:00:32.420 A few pastors have stood up and absolutely rejected the tyranny of discrimination against
00:00:38.900 Christians, discrimination of people of faith to stop their worship.
00:00:43.300 And take a look at this clip.
00:00:44.580 This is Pastor Artur Pawlowski in his first appearance to most of us, as we saw him telling
00:00:51.700 the police officers forcefully to remove themselves from his church.
00:00:55.820 Take a look.
00:00:58.480 Go!
00:00:59.600 So go!
00:01:00.420 Go!
00:01:01.380 And don't come back without a warrant.
00:01:03.280 Out, Nazi!
00:01:04.660 Out!
00:01:06.220 Out!
00:01:08.220 You understand?
00:01:09.940 Nazis are not welcome here.
00:01:11.480 Out!
00:01:12.660 And don't come back without a warrant.
00:01:15.160 Do not come back without a warrant.
00:01:17.460 You understand that?
00:01:18.420 You're not welcome here.
00:01:19.560 Nazis are not welcome here.
00:01:21.660 Gestapo is not welcome here.
00:01:23.160 And we are going to be speaking with Pastor Artur Pawlowski right now.
00:01:29.560 Stay tuned.
00:01:30.200 Pastor Artur, it is so good to be with you.
00:01:53.140 Welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show.
00:01:55.480 Thank you very much for having me in.
00:02:00.440 It is a great privilege for me to speak with you.
00:02:03.340 You should know that in very many ways, you're a hero in Canada.
00:02:09.900 You have pointed the way to defense of the freedom of worship in a way that really, for
00:02:17.660 most of America, for most of Europe, has been very alien.
00:02:21.520 You were forceful, of course, charitable, but you were forceful.
00:02:25.460 And I'd like to hear about that.
00:02:26.740 But first of all, tell us a little bit about yourself.
00:02:32.460 Well, I grew up in Poland, as you can tell by my accent, behind the Iron Curtain.
00:02:37.620 So I have seen firsthand the atrocities that were done to my people in my country, you know,
00:02:44.780 by the Soviets.
00:02:46.220 When Europe was and the whole world was celebrating the victory over the Nazis, Poland was taken
00:02:52.020 over by the Soviets.
00:02:53.780 And I'm telling you, socialism and communism is like a black plague.
00:02:59.020 It destroys everything that touches like a cancer.
00:03:02.240 So my country was ravished, destroyed.
00:03:04.380 People were depressed, people turned into alcohol for hope and faith.
00:03:10.200 I mean, that was the biggest thing.
00:03:12.220 Faith was the number one thing that was holding the people together.
00:03:18.180 And John Paul II, of course, coming to Poland and praying.
00:03:21.960 I had privilege to do a Christian festival, March for Jesus, in the very place where John
00:03:28.220 Paul II said, God, the Holy Spirit, come and touch this land, this ground.
00:03:34.500 And I actually quoted him on the same spot.
00:03:39.560 Millions of people were touched.
00:03:42.640 Millions of people were encouraged.
00:03:45.080 And after many, many years, after decades of Soviets destroying our country, finally,
00:03:50.260 1981, Polish people took to the streets.
00:03:53.520 They had courage.
00:03:54.680 Tens of thousands were arrested.
00:03:56.040 Some were murdered.
00:03:57.680 But eventually, after a big struggle during the Solidarity Movement, they won their freedom.
00:04:03.280 So I grew up hearing about the Nazis.
00:04:05.460 I grew up hearing about the Gestapo SS.
00:04:08.620 In my town, where I was growing up, was a concentration camp.
00:04:12.360 So as kids, we were playing in the bunkers that Germans built to murder people.
00:04:16.900 So I've heard from my grandparents about the atrocities of the Germans that they did in Europe and in Poland, of course.
00:04:24.000 And then firsthand, I saw what the communists did.
00:04:26.800 The police brutality, arrests, beatings, torturing, lawlessness, propaganda machinery, nonstop.
00:04:35.360 You were not allowed to listen to anything.
00:04:37.600 If you were caught listening to European radio in Poland, you could go to jail for five years.
00:04:43.100 But, of course, after you were brutally arrested and tortured and then sentenced.
00:04:47.800 If you were caught with something that was outside of the propaganda, so a leaflet or something else that was contrary, a book, for example, that was prohibited under the Soviet era, you could be tortured and sentenced to jail.
00:05:03.760 If you were caught with one American dollar, you could go for one year to jail.
00:05:08.120 So I've seen a lot of things, but I also have seen good.
00:05:12.680 I've seen when people come together and fade.
00:05:15.500 I will never forget this image when tens of thousands of people took it to the streets and they built this huge, huge cross.
00:05:23.540 And they marched with that cross and the soldiers were sent and they were ordered to shoot them dead.
00:05:28.300 But they they finally refused to do it.
00:05:30.820 And the people won and they prayed because prayer was illegal.
00:05:35.460 Congregating together, just like today, was illegal.
00:05:38.180 But people, by the tens of thousands, they did it.
00:05:41.080 So what I'm trying to say to you, there is hope.
00:05:43.540 Listen from a guy that grew up under craziness, hearing the stories of the Nazism and fascism and then seeing the communism, you know, destroying everything.
00:05:54.080 But people rose together. And here we are together.
00:05:57.640 I am a father. I have three children.
00:06:00.520 I was in monastery in Poland.
00:06:02.720 I was to become a priest.
00:06:04.620 God had a different plan for my life.
00:06:06.720 So now I am a pastor.
00:06:08.080 I'm serving God.
00:06:09.180 I'm feeding thousands of people on the streets of Calgary.
00:06:11.580 I escaped on the boat, irony, on a Russian boat to Istanbul, Turkey, and then to Piraeus in Athens, where we actually literally escaped from that boat.
00:06:24.880 And we were threatened that we would be arrested.
00:06:27.100 But God opened the doors and we went to the other side of the fence, throwing our belongings through the fence.
00:06:34.680 And we lived in Greece for five years.
00:06:38.420 And irony again, the Canadian government said, we want people like you to come, sell your business, sell your belongings, come to Canada.
00:06:46.440 Why? Because it's the freest country on the planet Earth.
00:06:49.280 No one will persecute you for your fate.
00:06:51.820 And we finally decided after many years of living in two countries that were very corrupted, everything was run by bribery and constant fear.
00:07:00.460 We came to Canada to start all over again in 1995.
00:07:05.520 I have three children, and this is my home.
00:07:08.980 I love Canada.
00:07:10.140 I am willing to fight for this land.
00:07:12.980 And I pray the same prayer that John Paul II prayed.
00:07:15.920 God, Holy Spirit, visit this land.
00:07:19.180 Touch this land.
00:07:21.340 Amen, amen, amen.
00:07:22.360 Now, so this is very interesting.
00:07:25.100 You lived through a kind of brutal persecution, and yet you find in yourself, despite watching, and I'm sure in the communist times that you lived through, you would have seen families arrested.
00:07:41.780 You would have seen children taken from their parents.
00:07:44.600 You would have seen, as you said, the brutal torture of people, yet you're still willing to speak out and do so forcefully in defense of freedom.
00:07:56.780 Where does that come from?
00:08:00.020 Everything comes from God.
00:08:01.540 I give all the glory to God.
00:08:03.060 I mean, I said quite often, and publicly, and to my congregants, that God had blessed me with amazing people, freedom fighters, lovers of people, lovers of this country.
00:08:14.480 But I always tell them, listen, I do not work for you.
00:08:17.680 If you think for a second that you pay me and I work for you, you're delusional.
00:08:22.640 I have only one God as boss, and you're not God.
00:08:27.720 I work for him.
00:08:28.720 And when he tells me to do something, I will do it, even if it offends all of you, and you will choose to leave this place.
00:08:36.460 Everyone comes with a free will.
00:08:38.620 You can choose to serve God, or you can choose to serve the enemy.
00:08:42.140 But you have to make a choice.
00:08:43.660 I have chosen to serve God.
00:08:46.120 When my son was born, Nathaniel, the first one, Nathaniel in Hebrew means gift from God, a gift of God.
00:08:53.380 And when he was born, he was born dead.
00:08:55.300 He had a heart on opposite sides, smashed lungs.
00:08:58.480 I was in a business realm at that time, and I always thought that you can buy anything you want with money.
00:09:04.860 I always had this saying, you know what?
00:09:06.420 It's just a matter of how much.
00:09:08.640 And everyone is for sale.
00:09:10.900 At that moment, 21 years ago, I realized that there are certain things you cannot buy.
00:09:16.540 You cannot buy happiness.
00:09:17.680 You can be the richest man on the planet Earth, and you can be the most miserable person on Earth.
00:09:22.880 You cannot buy health.
00:09:24.060 You can have all the money, but if something is broken and people cannot fix it, that's it.
00:09:29.120 You're done.
00:09:30.060 You cannot buy time.
00:09:31.660 Time is a precious commodity, and you only have one chance on this side of eternity.
00:09:37.400 So use it wisely.
00:09:39.320 You cannot buy a happy marriage.
00:09:41.120 You cannot buy peace.
00:09:42.800 There are some things that you cannot buy, and I could not buy the health of my son.
00:09:47.040 I think this was the first time that I really realized there's someone more powerful than money, more powerful than politicians, more powerful than lawyers, judges, and the mighty dollar.
00:09:57.560 And I struggle.
00:09:58.680 I have to tell you, that was a moment when I had my big rebellious fight with God.
00:10:03.940 I accused him of everything.
00:10:05.380 I said, why me?
00:10:06.400 Why me?
00:10:06.920 You know, we always have this saying, why not the neighbor?
00:10:09.960 Why is this happening to me?
00:10:11.320 What have I done?
00:10:12.160 I was not the worst guy on the planet Earth.
00:10:14.620 I mean, I was not like Hitler.
00:10:16.700 I did terrible things, but this guy is worse than me.
00:10:20.560 So why is this happening to me?
00:10:22.400 Of course, that doesn't work that way.
00:10:24.560 God wanted my attention, and he got it.
00:10:27.540 And I had a vision, and I would encourage you to watch a documentary that was done on my life.
00:10:33.360 It's called Street Advocate, the movie.
00:10:36.280 A famous movie director came, and he did the documentary.
00:10:39.500 And I'm telling all that story over there.
00:10:42.360 But I had a vision.
00:10:44.060 And I'm telling you, as a businessman, I did not believe in visions.
00:10:48.040 I did not believe in this, you know, hocus pocus, I said.
00:10:51.120 Those people are missing something in their brain.
00:10:54.560 And we always had this saying as businessmen, show me the money.
00:10:57.680 So I want to touch it, then I'll believe it.
00:11:00.900 Like a doubting Thomas, if you will.
00:11:03.360 And it happened to me.
00:11:04.380 I mean, it was the craziest thing.
00:11:05.840 My son is dying.
00:11:07.160 The doctor said he's not going to live.
00:11:09.380 They said even if he survives this time, he's going to be vegetable for the rest of his life.
00:11:14.480 And they told me three doctors to unplug him.
00:11:16.820 My wife said no.
00:11:17.980 She started to pray.
00:11:19.060 She called everyone she knew.
00:11:21.080 Many churches were praying.
00:11:22.260 Many family and friends called other friends.
00:11:25.480 So there was a huge amount of people that were praying and visiting the intensive care in the children's hospital here.
00:11:32.980 Me, on the other hand, I was just watching this whole thing like what's happening to somebody else.
00:11:38.500 After my rage against God, after me calling him names and lifting fists and, oh, you, how terrible you are.
00:11:46.580 Then I calmed down and I just observed.
00:11:49.060 And I saw Jesus Christ in Gethsemane.
00:11:50.960 I saw the torture.
00:11:52.200 I saw the beatings.
00:11:53.380 I can tell you the conversations they had.
00:11:56.060 It was incredible.
00:11:57.340 And the beatings were so severe.
00:11:58.900 I ran away from the hospital and I came back the next day and it started again.
00:12:04.080 It happened to me three times until I saw the crucifixion.
00:12:08.640 I saw the darkness.
00:12:09.760 I saw the earthquake.
00:12:10.840 I saw when the creation was crying.
00:12:13.080 And then I heard a voice talking to me.
00:12:15.520 And he said, what would you do to save your son?
00:12:19.020 And I said, anything.
00:12:20.060 Ask me to kill.
00:12:21.040 And I will kill.
00:12:21.580 I will wipe out half of this hospital if it needs to be so my son can live.
00:12:26.180 But he says, but you cannot do anything to save your son.
00:12:28.980 But I could save my son.
00:12:31.400 And I didn't do it.
00:12:32.360 You know why?
00:12:33.680 And he paused and he says, for you and for the rest of the people.
00:12:37.260 I'm telling you, at that moment, I realized how evil, wicked of a person I was.
00:12:43.420 I would kill your son so only I don't have to be in pain.
00:12:47.160 I would wipe somebody's father or mother just so I can escape the pain.
00:12:52.840 But this father, I don't think we fully can understand what he has done.
00:12:57.340 He chose to be in pain.
00:12:59.580 He chose to suffer.
00:13:01.860 That was his free will.
00:13:03.140 He chose to give his only begotten son.
00:13:06.940 And for whom he did it?
00:13:08.580 For a person like me.
00:13:10.500 I was his enemy.
00:13:11.940 I didn't like him.
00:13:13.260 I walked away from him.
00:13:14.620 I wanted him to leave me be.
00:13:17.160 And he died for me.
00:13:18.780 It was the most, I don't know how to call it.
00:13:23.000 My heart was broken.
00:13:24.440 It broke in half.
00:13:25.840 I realized how amazing this God is.
00:13:28.020 And if all the people would understand how much he loves you, how much he appreciates you,
00:13:33.780 he created you, he cherishes you, he wants to spend time with you.
00:13:38.660 He doesn't want you to just come to him and give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me.
00:13:42.440 He just wants to have a quality time with you.
00:13:44.680 He wants to talk to you.
00:13:45.860 He wants to take you on his lap and just, hey, tell me how was your day.
00:13:50.020 Don't just ask me for pennies.
00:13:52.420 Don't ask me for another ice cream.
00:13:54.820 Just, hey, just spend time with me.
00:13:57.060 You know, my heart is broken when I see people constantly coming to God and they're just,
00:14:01.700 give me, give me, you know, Toonie and a chocolate bar comes out.
00:14:05.300 Go to church.
00:14:06.360 Go to God and say, God, what I can do for you?
00:14:09.800 How can I be of assistant to you?
00:14:12.260 Father, daddy, what I can do?
00:14:14.340 Here I am.
00:14:15.320 Use me.
00:14:16.240 Touch me.
00:14:17.120 Send me.
00:14:17.820 I'm willing to go and fight for another soul.
00:14:20.000 I'm telling you, if you do that, you're going to touch the heart of the father in the most
00:14:23.880 amazing way you can imagine.
00:14:25.800 So that's what happened to me.
00:14:27.220 And I cried.
00:14:28.040 I went to the church first time since my son was born dying and I started to cry like
00:14:33.840 never before.
00:14:35.000 And every tear was representing something that I've done, all my sins.
00:14:39.660 Every tear was representing another sin, another deed that I have done, another words that I
00:14:44.540 have spoken.
00:14:45.240 And I don't know how long I was crying, but when it was over, I had no more tears.
00:14:51.920 I calmed down.
00:14:53.180 All my hands were raised towards heaven and my son was like Isaac, like Abraham has given
00:15:01.980 Isaac on the altar.
00:15:03.580 I have given my son, Nathaniel, the gift from God on the altar.
00:15:07.880 My son was born the same day I was born, March 28, 2000.
00:15:12.840 And I have given him on the altar like Abraham, Isaac, and nothing happened.
00:15:18.920 And you would think after such a dramatic situation, me seeing what I saw and you would think something
00:15:25.480 will happen.
00:15:26.180 Someone would speak to me, an earthquake perhaps, or a wind or a fire, nothing, nothing happened.
00:15:32.200 I just had no more tears to cry, went home.
00:15:34.940 And the next day I went to work.
00:15:36.560 I came back to the hospital and behold, everyone was pointing a finger at me saying, that's the
00:15:43.120 father of the star baby.
00:15:44.160 Look, that's the father.
00:15:45.300 That's the father.
00:15:45.880 I reached the intensive care that the same three doctors came and here is what they said.
00:15:50.760 You got to come with us.
00:15:51.640 Something happened because, you know, I was walking there expecting that my son is dead.
00:15:56.800 I gave God my word when I had no more tears.
00:16:00.380 I said, God, whatever you're going to do, whatever is your answer, if you choose to take him home,
00:16:06.280 I just pray you would do it now.
00:16:08.260 So this horror, this suffering for me and my wife would end.
00:16:11.500 But if you will heal him, I'll be grateful for the rest of my life.
00:16:15.480 But nevertheless, I'm giving you my oath right now.
00:16:19.140 And if you know anything about me as a businessman, a handshake was a contract, was good enough
00:16:24.760 for me.
00:16:25.100 My word was everything to me.
00:16:27.080 So I said, no matter what you will choose, I'm giving you my oath today.
00:16:31.940 I will serve you for the rest of my life.
00:16:34.260 And like I said, nothing happened until the next day.
00:16:36.620 I go to the hospital.
00:16:37.580 They take me to another room with x-rays at that time.
00:16:42.020 And they said, we can't explain what happened, but your son should not be alive, but is living.
00:16:48.480 Your son should not be breathing because all the machinery was doing all of that for him.
00:16:53.300 But he's breathing on his own.
00:16:54.880 So we started to take pictures every hour.
00:16:56.900 And they said, look at this.
00:16:59.060 There was no line.
00:17:00.340 When we opened him up, I have a surgeon's report.
00:17:04.500 It says there's not even a trace.
00:17:07.700 They could not find even a trace of a line.
00:17:10.500 But he says, look at the pictures.
00:17:11.960 The line is appearing.
00:17:13.020 Every hour is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
00:17:15.120 Your son is breathing on his own.
00:17:16.680 That's a medical impossibility.
00:17:18.940 We call the symposium of doctor.
00:17:20.760 And this is what they said.
00:17:21.660 We call your son a star baby because it's like a baby that came from the stars.
00:17:25.780 It should not be alive, but it's living.
00:17:27.720 It should not be breathing, but it's breathing on his own.
00:17:30.440 We cannot explain it.
00:17:32.220 Medically speaking, a miracle happened.
00:17:34.460 And this is what the doctor said.
00:17:35.660 It looks like your God has answered your prayers.
00:17:39.200 You know, it takes me an hour and a half to tell the story.
00:17:42.800 But at least you know now why am I so radical?
00:17:46.040 Because I have seen, I have seen.
00:17:49.020 It's like the apostles in the book of Acts chapter 4 and 5.
00:17:52.220 They say, we have seen, and they have seen mighty things of God.
00:17:56.660 And as they say, we must testify on what we have seen.
00:18:01.600 I must testify that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
00:18:06.100 That he's unchangeable God.
00:18:07.320 That he is a living God.
00:18:08.540 And he wants to touch you.
00:18:10.060 He wants to change you.
00:18:11.040 He wants to let the people know that he is interested in your affairs.
00:18:16.360 And he loves you so much that he has given himself for you and me.
00:18:21.220 So after that, I started to work with the homeless people.
00:18:24.880 In 2005, we started a ministry called Street Church.
00:18:29.120 And right now, there is 40, 50 churches like this all over different countries and continents.
00:18:35.860 I started orphanages, clinics, churches, Africa, Belize, Barbados, you name it.
00:18:41.720 I started also a movement that is called March for Jesus.
00:18:45.440 I organize marches all over the world and also Christian festivals.
00:18:49.840 And I pastor two churches in the city of Calgary.
00:18:52.560 Wow.
00:18:56.400 We're going to show a clip of your arrest of your, in this most recent incident, which I
00:19:07.640 really want to address with you, of your house attempted to be burned down.
00:19:13.700 In fact, they did burn down your garage.
00:19:16.400 So let's roll those now and then I'll get your reaction to them.
00:19:22.560 Thank you to the recording.
00:19:24.180 It's Pop
00:19:46.120 to pull your nuts, you can stop your psychopaths.
00:19:51.280 shame on you guys this is not communist china don't you guys have family and kids
00:20:08.560 whatever happened to canada god keep her learning glorious and free
00:20:14.680 so pastor artur if you could tell us first of all about the arrest uh you know you were arrested
00:20:20.940 what what went through your head at the time and what's your takeaway from that
00:20:24.720 you know think about it for every person that is living in a western society you would think that
00:20:33.460 you have protection of law we are not living in a country that are lawlessness we have the
00:20:38.520 charter of rights and freedoms we have the constitution we have criminal code of canada
00:20:43.780 section 176 and it says you know one two three it says that we are protected the clergymen are
00:20:52.620 protected you cannot interfere you cannot disturb you cannot harass clergymen going in or coming out
00:20:58.720 after he is or before officiating you know incapacity of his duties you cannot disrupt church service i
00:21:05.620 mean you think you are living in a in a country that respects the rule of law and preamble to our
00:21:13.900 charter rights and freedoms to the fundamental rights the government is giving us that's why i
00:21:20.740 came to this country that was the only reason because i was making lots of money in greece and
00:21:25.900 that was my el dorado yeah i came to canada for one purpose for freedom that's it i wanted just to be a
00:21:32.260 free man living in a country that is uh run by law and order i was sick of bribery i was sick of
00:21:40.900 corrupted police officers and politicians i wanted to come here for freedom and security and that's
00:21:48.160 being taken away from me so knowing the law knowing that we are fully protected that they cannot do
00:21:54.640 what they're doing right now i was of course shocked i was enraged i was upset what is happening we
00:22:00.440 are being taken over by some kind of a communist fascist hybrid that's why i called them i called
00:22:07.000 them you know i've called them gestapo because they are starting to act like gestapo they they turn
00:22:12.000 their uniforms from blue into a dark blue looking like a black and then a swat team coming to the
00:22:19.300 church and they look more like ss gestapo then then officers that when you see them you say oh thank god
00:22:27.380 there is a police officer over there no they look like uh gangsters working for mafia right now
00:22:33.520 there is lawlessness in the land there is total disregard to the rule of law in the preamble it
00:22:38.900 says the canada where is canada recognizes the supremacy of god where is supremacy of god god says
00:22:46.080 very clearly we are to gather that's what god says we are to lay hands on the sick we are to officiate
00:22:52.580 services we are to sing praises to god we are to come together as a family and worship our creator
00:22:58.940 it's protected it's given it's a god given but also a state given right that we have and all of that is
00:23:05.980 being taken away from us on pretense of some kind of a lie that is circulating right now around the world
00:23:13.460 which data doesn't support the statistics are telling totally opposite story however those people
00:23:19.760 don't care they don't care that they're lying they don't care they're manipulating they're doing
00:23:24.440 this on purpose destroying the middle class eliminating small and medium-sized businesses
00:23:29.480 while at the same time costco superstore ikea they all can do whatever they want and mosques are not
00:23:36.840 shut down the imams there's not even one imam that has been ticket forget about arresting not even one
00:23:42.580 ticket the muslims got it but christians by the thousands are being hunted down the pastors now arrested so
00:23:49.640 we know it's a communistic takeover so what was going through my head i said what happened where
00:23:57.100 are canadians where where are the real politicians because what we have right now is some kind of a
00:24:03.360 mafia ruling over this country and you know preamble continues the supremacy of god and the rule of law
00:24:10.580 where is the rule of law where is actual law right now they're they're acting against the rights they're
00:24:17.020 acting against the law and they're using law to do that to take away our our our rights so when they
00:24:25.740 showed up at the church they brought swat team and i'm thinking to myself what's wrong what is in the
00:24:31.120 head of those people we are non-violent i've never been charged with assault in my life i am not violent
00:24:41.240 there is no record of violence whatsoever it's a peaceful assembly it's a peaceful church and they
00:24:46.820 bring swat team so why they're doing this they're doing this to suppress to intimidate to harass and
00:24:53.760 they have been doing this for the past 15 years taking pictures of our women and and children that's
00:24:59.620 what the soviets did that's just what the gestapo did if they cannot get the men they will intimidate the
00:25:05.200 men by saying hey we know where your wife works we know where your children go to work we know we can
00:25:10.940 hurt them to hurt you be careful and those are the tactics identical to the tactics of gestapo and the
00:25:18.720 kgb that's why i call them gestapo and kgb and fascists and communists because they're acting like those old
00:25:25.380 boys from the past so when the swat team shows up at the church and i was told of course i was already
00:25:33.720 at the front of the church the church was in a full uh you know uh worship and someone yells the swat team
00:25:41.180 is coming so i thought i'm going to be arrested at the pulpit but they opened the door and they
00:25:45.920 left i was told they left i said oh praise god so maybe today i'm not going to be arrested for my
00:25:51.700 horrible crime of opening the church and and preaching the gospel so they've left i was told that they dropped
00:25:58.600 something later on after the church was over they dropped something on the ground i said don't touch it
00:26:03.580 i don't know what it is i mean this is crazy you know it could be a biological weapon as far as i
00:26:09.140 know i don't know no one presented me anything no one talked to me no one sent an email no one notified
00:26:15.120 our lawyers we have lawyers for 15 months they know we have lawyers they know uh that we always tell them
00:26:21.600 talk to our lawyers because we're not lawyers they have to figure it out what what is really going on
00:26:27.620 and the legality of of the things but no they've chosen to drop something on the ground i told the
00:26:33.320 people don't touch it um let the lawyers deal with that if they have something to give me let them give
00:26:39.020 it to the lawyer so they can figure it out and people left and i started driving home me a driver
00:26:46.000 dave hughes and my brother david david palowski and in the middle of a busy highway we were stopped by
00:26:52.240 swat team we were uh you know the officer comes to the window says you're under arrest and he turns
00:26:58.640 to my brother david says you're under arrest which is which is insanity why my brother was arrested
00:27:04.300 i was the pastor i opened the church i officiated the service you know so i broke the law according
00:27:11.500 to them why brother because you see again they're acting like gestapo and kgb if they can get to one
00:27:17.760 man they're using his family they're like gangsters they are they're no different than the mafia right
00:27:23.480 now those politicians jason kenney comes in front of the cameras he's the premier of alberta and this
00:27:28.840 is what he says i will crush pavlovskis that's what he said to the media i will crush pavlovskis
00:27:35.400 excuse me you're going to crush my daughter you're going to crush my mom you're going to crush my father
00:27:41.580 and and and why why are you going to crush me and my family because i opened the church
00:27:48.360 that i give hope in this crazy crisis when people are suicidal when people are turning into drugs and
00:27:55.600 alcohol you're going to crush my family because i am a pastor in a free and democratic society is this a
00:28:02.800 conduct of a premier of a province in the democratic country no he is a mafia boss he's a casa nostra
00:28:11.120 and he's using police and the courts as a means to destroy opposition just like the chinese are doing
00:28:21.420 just like the russians are doing he is no different no rule of law he's a mafia casa nostra guy using
00:28:29.460 police as his gangsters to harass intimidate and to rise all right so we were taken to to the police
00:28:36.600 custody i was thrown um heads down into the police car uh van i could not fit my feet were sticking out
00:28:46.680 so i was threatened i will be charged with assault if i if my feet will not fit into the van but i was
00:28:53.580 just the box is very small it's only intended for an in for a prisoner to sit but they threw me
00:28:59.820 on my back and i was not fitting i was just like my feet were out so it was insane finally i with my
00:29:07.640 help we managed to put my feet up and my head down so that's how i traveled for an hour laying down
00:29:14.680 a hundred kilo on my wrists uh handcuffed in extreme pain i was tortured for one hour to this day
00:29:23.720 my wrist is damaged and i have tingling in my fingers so that's what 10 days after my arrest more
00:29:30.820 11 days you know so they've damaged my wrist intentionally and they took us to the to jail
00:29:39.340 where we were in solitary confinement uh not allowed to sleep every half hour there was bang on the door
00:29:46.780 uh some officer would come and make sure we cannot sleep the lights were so bright uh you couldn't
00:29:53.480 you couldn't even cover your head you know you couldn't sleep and there was concrete we were
00:29:58.460 forced to be on the concrete for like 30 hours uh eventually guards changed and some human came
00:30:06.400 because the gestapo left and humans showed up and then finally he says this is this is wrong what what
00:30:12.380 is happening to you is wrong and he provided us with the mattress however that didn't last that long
00:30:18.820 because an hour or two later we were transferred to prison and when we were stripped uh naked search
00:30:26.300 our clothes were taken we were thrown into this filthiest jail uh a tank they call it a tank i call it
00:30:33.480 fish tank where the fresh fish is arriving i'm thinking i'm telling you the cell looked like someone went
00:30:41.400 and peed all over the place it was sticky it was filthy it was dirty and you gotta remember why i'm telling
00:30:47.180 the story because we were arrested for endangering people right inciting people to come to church
00:30:54.040 not obeying the health so orders so um it's very interesting that we were thrown into a place
00:31:03.000 that if there was a serious virus if there was a leprosy or something black like we would all be dead
00:31:09.260 20 30 inmates coming in and out into this filth all of us are infected all of us it's a cross
00:31:16.880 uh you know transmission and and it's it's it's just sickening i mean i'm here because of health
00:31:23.660 and i'm being you know i'm i'm being jeopardized my health is being jeopardized because you have thrown
00:31:29.120 into this filthy filthy thing that they look like no one cleans for years and you could see write-ups
00:31:36.180 on the wall 1992 so 30 years no one paints this stuff no one cleans it it's insane it's insane so
00:31:44.320 however in this ordeal there were some good people there were some good jailers and i promised them
00:31:50.520 that i'm going to mention this not all officers are bad not all police officers are evil gestapo there's
00:31:57.000 some good police officers and there are some good jailers and we've met those good jailers one
00:32:02.900 a staff surgeon cumble he he was so shocked by what is happening uh that he provided us with the
00:32:09.840 mattress for for this short time another officer daniels i i asked him he says what can i do for
00:32:16.000 you because this is wrong what is happening i said if i can get a cup of coffee please and he went
00:32:21.560 himself and he got from his own place a cup of coffee you know so you have some humans over there
00:32:26.960 when we were stripped naked searched uh we had to give up our clothes there was one jailer that says
00:32:33.160 pastor arthur remember jesus is with you i mean those things are precious while they were mocking us
00:32:39.040 the other jailers were lifting their hands praise the lord praise the lord mocking us others were
00:32:45.100 seeing what is happening and they were disturbed it was another shift uh gentleman a boss uh supervisor
00:32:53.260 from the shift uh night shift and he comes and he's physically shaken he says this is horrible and
00:33:01.100 you know what he says i am a catholic and what i what i'm seeing here is just wrong what they're doing
00:33:06.880 to use is evil is wrong i'm going to do everything in my power to help you to help you out and to for
00:33:13.200 you to be treated normally i mean we're not asking for extra treatment we're not asking hey treat us
00:33:18.440 better or no just treat us like humans like any other inmate but that was denied to us so for three
00:33:25.260 hours i watched this catholic man with this night shift a supervisor that came with his team three hours
00:33:31.760 he fought with the bosses just to give us a place to sleep because we were all this time on concrete
00:33:38.300 and he couldn't get the authorization they refused they refused to give us a bed eventually three hours
00:33:47.500 later after i watching him fight with his superiors he says they say no they just told me no uh so i don't
00:33:55.040 know what to do i'm going to try to get you a mattress and a blanket because it was extremely cold
00:34:00.120 like i mean extremely shivering cold and we are there um in the name of health being treated like
00:34:07.140 prisoners in siberia and jeopardizing our health and the health of other inmates and finally three
00:34:14.580 in the morning so i was arrested with brother david saturday so we spent saturday night sunday night
00:34:22.560 and finally three in the morning he provided us with the with the blanket and no pillow and um
00:34:28.940 and the mattress and six in the morning we were uh shackled our feet were shackled and we were taken
00:34:35.980 to to court to see the judge three hours waiting to see the lawyers and another interesting part of
00:34:42.900 this is that the lawyers asked to uh ask for the jailers to tell us that they're waiting for our phone
00:34:49.860 call that um they need to contact us that was never three days we are in jail was never passed to us
00:34:56.640 that the lawyers are asking to see to talk to us also we asked a number of times to have access to
00:35:03.420 the lawyer that was denied to us they did not allow us to to call a lawyer in in reman until the night
00:35:11.320 shift uh check you know people came and finally our rights were restored to us uh we were taken to
00:35:19.400 court we saw the judge the judge the judge ordered our release and that didn't happen until seven hours
00:35:25.620 later after we were again thrown in uh you know in this tank uh where when you sat down and you got
00:35:33.320 stuck to the to the bench because it was so filthy i'm talking about mold on the ceiling i'm talking about
00:35:40.260 that look like no one cleans this place ever and that's where we were thrown again watching other
00:35:45.940 inmates coming in and out from that first fish tank where someone looked like someone peed all over
00:35:52.260 the place so about 20 inmates were going to that other cell that we spent the whole night in and
00:36:00.260 then finally 7 p.m three days they released us from jail and that was a beautiful moment also because
00:36:07.580 when we released someone from the jail system from the prison presented us with two red bibles
00:36:15.240 and i just i think was that catholic uh supervisor that just wanted to let us know we're not alone
00:36:21.720 that there are some people like us and that was a beautiful moment you know getting a bible because
00:36:28.160 the bible was denied to us um we were not allowed to read the bible until the human jailers came and
00:36:36.360 finally for an hour or two i was given a bible with that coffee from mr with police officer daniels and
00:36:44.420 um staff sergeant comble so what i'm trying to say is in every department there are humans the good
00:36:53.120 people and there are monsters the gangsters there are evil people and gestapo type of individuals so
00:37:01.640 don't lose hope because uh sometimes we have tendency to to throw all of them and say that's it there is no
00:37:08.380 hope no there is always hope there's always hope and we've seen it we've seen the light in the
00:37:13.100 darkness over there amazing amazing parallels um to to also the suffering of our lord you you spent
00:37:20.180 three days uh and and then we're finally released sort of like our resurrection uh after the three
00:37:25.500 days uh from from good friday to uh easter sunday uh just amazing stuff but this is so disturbing
00:37:32.240 that uh you know you are being persecuted not only by the police but the police are obviously picking up
00:37:40.660 on kind of the threats from politicians and you've been vilified in the media so that you know you're
00:37:48.740 getting the sort of punishment now that also rubs off there's no it's not only the jailers who are
00:37:58.080 going to crush the pavlovskys no no it also rubs off in terms of the public when the politicians when
00:38:06.260 the media go after someone and vilify them uh it is very dangerous because you can create that kind
00:38:14.280 of mob mentality to have people uh do vigilante action and that indeed did happen uh with someone
00:38:21.520 trying to burn down your house with you and your family still in it tell us what happened there
00:38:27.060 you know the media for months for months they're doing those i call them heat uh heat heat pieces
00:38:35.160 on on us and they would write stories uh portraying me as a white supremacist a super spreader
00:38:42.440 portraying me as a racist and you know for the record half of our church goers are colored people
00:38:48.520 i myself am partially colored my grandma was from romania so to say you know when you see my father
00:38:56.560 you think he is arab because you know he has dark skin so to to say that we are white supremacists and
00:39:03.200 racists is unbelievable it's just a pure lie we have people from asia from china we have people
00:39:09.880 from jamaica africa attending our church we have native americans half of the people i feed on the
00:39:17.760 streets are native americans so colored people uh reds blacks yellow and i mean i always say that if
00:39:24.100 martians were healed here i would allow them to come and i would feed them as well and everyone
00:39:29.580 is welcome at the lord's table that's what i say always everyone is welcome to participate at the
00:39:35.560 lord's table those tables are not mine they are his that's god's tables he provides the food for the
00:39:41.320 people i'm not going to say anything you're welcome to come you're homosexual and you're hungry you're
00:39:46.460 welcome to come you're transgender you're hungry you're welcome to come you're a muslim you're hungry
00:39:51.160 you're welcome to come it doesn't matter we don't ask questions what is your political uh you know
00:39:57.120 association where you came from um you know what is your fate what do you believe in are you atheists
00:40:03.640 no we set up tables and we welcome everyone that wants to come everyone that needs to come everyone
00:40:09.880 that is hungry is welcome to come they don't have to listen to our preaching they can grab food and move
00:40:15.220 on with their lives but many people do want to listen and they participate in our church services so
00:40:20.440 the same with the church that i run in the building everyone is welcome to come we have
00:40:25.800 actually a lady that identifies herself as a homosexual and actually she was defending us on
00:40:32.760 the news she says like this is unbelievable what you're doing this is a lie this is just not what it
00:40:38.340 is so what they're doing for months they're vilifying us vilifying me telling people untrue
00:40:45.260 uh things that i hate people that i hate colored people that i i am just this evil monster that needs
00:40:53.400 to be stopped and the politicians did the same thing uh jason kenny the premier of alberta that's
00:40:58.680 not the first time he goes in front of cameras vilifying me calling me white supremacist and racist
00:41:04.360 this is not the first time now he says i'll crush pavlovskis so that sends a message to
00:41:10.740 really evil people to hurt us and that's exactly what happened i blame the media and the politicians
00:41:16.660 to what happened to us someone set our garage on fire and it was not for the neighbor caught you know
00:41:24.920 the caught this very early we would die in fire a chief firefighter came and he said to me you know
00:41:33.120 we were extremely blessed not to die today because just just few weeks before the garage caught fire
00:41:40.460 and the whole house went in flames you know so this is not a joke we're not talking about ah someone
00:41:47.740 doesn't like me no this is it's a next step they want my children dead they want my wife to die they
00:41:55.440 want me to be murdered i mean this is sickening if you really think about it and excuse me for what
00:42:00.800 what have i done my people are healthy i'm healthy we are happy people we have peace in this crisis we
00:42:10.360 come together we are family people come on their free will they're healthy people uh you know if if
00:42:17.900 you don't feel good you stay at home you can go and quarantine yourself that's okay but this is the
00:42:25.260 first time in the history of mankind when the healthy people are commanded to quarantine
00:42:30.060 you're always historically speaking always has been the other way around if you're sick you
00:42:35.740 stay away from the healthy population but this is a reverse situation right now it's it's absolutely
00:42:41.240 sickening what they're doing and they're doing this on purpose they're doing this to destroy
00:42:45.980 our lives so um i feed the homeless people like i said and and then for that deed i'm not charging a
00:42:55.560 penny from the government everything we do is uh is run by volunteers i do not receive a salary i have
00:43:02.120 not received the salary for seven years and now i'm being targeted by the politicians by the mainstream
00:43:08.180 media and now i'm suffering tens of thousands of dollars loss because why excuse me because i opened
00:43:16.060 the church don't come you don't want to come don't come you don't want to be fed don't come go to
00:43:21.100 mcdonald's go to restaurants i you know that's your choice but there's a lots of people thousands
00:43:25.720 of them actually that are relying on our services and for that i'm being targeted for that you want
00:43:33.220 me murdered unbelievable all right so arthur if you could pastor arthur if you could give us uh your
00:43:41.900 is really thoughts on what canadians should do right now we're all in this boat most of us are
00:43:49.240 prevented from going to church going to mass even going in sometimes uh but and and then they're
00:43:55.960 trying to suggest that we do it all virtually um what's your message of encouragement for canadians
00:44:01.040 you know when um when i became a christian i remember the times where i was a very comfortable
00:44:10.760 christian i was a businessman and and pretty much what i wanted from god is and that's the truth is just
00:44:16.340 god bless my business bless my company okay just make me a very very you know wealthy person and
00:44:22.760 and then i will give you a little bit out of that world so i was a lukewarm really uninterested in his
00:44:28.640 kingdom selfish self-centered me i am myself and i think most of the christians unfortunately are right
00:44:35.520 like that like i was before most of the clergymen it's all about them they're hired guns they're not
00:44:41.500 real shepherds of god's people because jesus says when a real shepherd is attacked or his flock is
00:44:47.860 attacked he stands up and fight he fends off the wolves what we have right now is hired guns the wolves
00:44:53.660 showed up and they jumped through the windows and left the flock left the sheep to be devoured
00:44:59.460 by the wolves so what i did chasing those nazis those hyenas away i just defended the people inside you
00:45:06.660 don't have right to intimidate and harass people while they are on their knees and praying and crying
00:45:11.320 and talking to god and worshiping him it is just pure evil even the communists didn't do it
00:45:16.640 so get out and if every pastor if every clergyman would do stuff like this this whole fight would be
00:45:23.100 over we would win within a day that's how powerful we are so my message to you is this lions never bow
00:45:30.200 before hyenas we do not cooperate with hyenas we do not work with the gestapo we oppose evil it's
00:45:37.380 always the right thing to do the right thing we have to push evil the light has to keep shining if the
00:45:44.800 salt loses its saltiness it will be useless good for nothing it will be trampled by men right now the
00:45:51.540 church is being trampled by men we have been called unessential services we are being called we don't want
00:45:57.760 you we don't need you shut your doors and disappear while walmart is being celebrated as the new god
00:46:04.880 of the land so we have a choice we can be like joshua and say ask for me and my household we shall serve
00:46:10.880 the lord or we can say okay we're going to serve idols of the land the government is more powerful than
00:46:17.540 god so therefore we're going to bow before that golden image let me remind you about shadrach michigan
00:46:23.300 abendigo they were told by the law you have to bow and they said no they end up in a fiery furnace
00:46:30.220 and jesus shows up let me remind you about daniel law said you cannot pray just like the law says we cannot
00:46:36.540 gather we cannot do stuff today what did daniel do he opens the windows and he prays let's go to mordecai
00:46:42.600 and haman the law said you have to bow before haman mordecai chooses not to he breaks the law for the glory of god
00:46:49.220 because you should not bow before elected officials you are only to worship and bow before the living
00:46:54.860 god esther goes before the king against the law the book of acts chapter 4 and 5 apostles are saying to
00:47:02.300 the authorities we must obey god rather than men the bible is filled with rebellious people but
00:47:08.400 rebellious not towards god because the rebellion is like a spirit of divinations like a witchcraft when
00:47:13.440 you rebel against god but you must you must rebel against evil you have to you have to oppose the
00:47:20.980 darkness you have to stand against the devil and his minions because if you don't the bible in revelation
00:47:27.680 says the cowardly the fearful will not will not inherit the kingdom of god so you're risking your salvation
00:47:35.340 when you say to god i don't trust you enough i don't believe that you can take me out of the speckle
00:47:41.460 i have more faith in the government than in you god you're not powerful enough your hand is too short
00:47:47.420 you i don't have faith i don't think you can rescue me i am more afraid of men than i am afraid of god
00:47:54.680 this is the tragedy that we're witnessing right now so my message is very clear rise up stand up be
00:48:02.000 courageous push the darkness away bring your light be sold that penetrates every aspect political
00:48:08.900 mainstream media educational system health system you know justice system we all should penetrate
00:48:16.720 all of those departments for the glory of god who is this devil don't you understand that god holds
00:48:25.040 our enemies in the palm of his hands they are only alive because he allows them to be alive don't we
00:48:30.860 understand that greater is he that is in us than the one that is in them don't we know that the story ends
00:48:36.500 victoriously we know how the story ends we know that jesus wins and when you stand with jesus you win
00:48:44.040 also you have to stand you have to obey you have to have faith the bible says that without faith you
00:48:50.380 cannot please god jesus says when i come back will i find faith on earth looks like the church lost faith
00:48:56.760 it looks like the church rather obeys the government than their god that they say they are serving
00:49:04.360 and where are the leaders we are leaderless generation we have no leaders in the political
00:49:08.680 arena now because they are they should be charged with treason the traitors to the people they work
00:49:14.880 against the people also we have no leaders in the churches because they run away they jumped from
00:49:21.040 the ship and ship and they left us to die to be devoured by hyenas and wolves so lions rise up
00:49:29.960 stand up the bible says one can do a thousand but two can do ten thousand so my call is this rise up
00:49:36.300 people church rise up this is our time to shine the people are desperate the people are suicidal people
00:49:43.280 are dying they're turning to drugs and alcohol now it's our time to shine jesus said this is the time for
00:49:49.640 the last harvest he wants his last harvest jesus is coming back he is coming back to judge the living
00:49:57.340 and the dead rise up bring him those souls that he died on that cross for
00:50:03.140 wow pastor paulowski thank you for your defense of canada of freedom to worship one last question for
00:50:13.320 you especially for our listeners your journey uh you you mentioned you were going to be a priest you were
00:50:19.760 in a monastery and then you ended up in in a way and and then away from the church uh and then
00:50:26.900 didn't uh stay with the catholic church at all how did you get there and uh and what's your take
00:50:32.340 right now in the catholic church well here's my you know i love history right i was to become a priest
00:50:40.680 i unfortunately i saw a huge corruption uh in a organized religion a huge corruption and i had to
00:50:48.560 make a choice my older friends that were already um taken they you know parties girls and and just
00:50:56.060 wardliness and i said if i am to live a lifestyle like this i can't i would be a hypocrite for the
00:51:01.800 rest of my life so i went to the other side of the fence i started to do business i became a smuggler
00:51:07.760 a businessman and i met my wife my what my wife was a christian and she was always telling me about this
00:51:13.240 jesus she was telling me about this god of the bible and i didn't want to have anything to do
00:51:18.040 with this but you know the power of women slowly slowly she asked me to take to take her to church
00:51:24.680 so i started to listen i started to read the bible people read the bible god hates evil he hates
00:51:31.740 corruption he hates organized religion that is not serving jesus and that is catholic protestant
00:51:42.020 baptist it doesn't matter when in every organized religion they are corrupted people but god is not
00:51:49.580 corrupted god he is a holy god he's a pure god so i my take is this read the bible worship god serve him
00:52:00.180 and serve him only do not allow corruption into your heart have a pure heart and a clean hands before god
00:52:09.280 and worship him wherever you can if you want to come to the catholic church and go over there and
00:52:16.020 worship god with truth and in spirit do that if you want to go to a protestant church and worship god
00:52:23.000 with truth and in spirit worship you know sometimes we are bound by tradition and where we grew up and i work
00:52:31.080 with the catholic church we that we've done marches for jesus together in poland and other other places you
00:52:38.500 know my take on all of this is is very simple read the bible worship your god worship your god bow to him
00:52:47.360 only yes well i would uh pray for you because i think uh the lord has in store for you another chapter in
00:52:56.600 your life you are so faithful to defending our lord to showing what true christians should do with regard
00:53:06.360 to freedom of worship and maintaining that despite anything the world would throw at you
00:53:11.500 when you left the catholic church you also left the john chapter 6 uh you know body blood soul and
00:53:25.320 divinity of our lord and holy communion and you might not be there yet or think about that much but
00:53:29.380 i would encourage you uh because i would be remiss in in not doing so for a brother whom i so admire
00:53:36.680 uh what you're doing is incredible for the faith for canada i would hope one day you would reconsider
00:53:43.960 on with regard to particularly look at john 6 where our lord promises himself in holy communion
00:53:49.500 uh it's repeated over and over again in the scriptures and i hope you take that to heart
00:53:54.400 not as a as a means to browbeat you but just in love as a brother in christ um you're doing amazing
00:54:01.740 work and if a horrible sinner a coward like me uh gets to receive our lord um you should too
00:54:10.020 my goodness it's been a great honor for me to speak with you pastor pavlosky god bless you and thank you
00:54:15.980 thank you very much god bless you
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