The John-Henry Westen Show - July 12, 2022


'Peter will become Judas'： Faithful priest presents messages from Marian mystic


Summary

Our Lady of Anguera appeared to Pedro Regis in the town of Feira de Santana, Brazil in the late 1980s and early 1990s. What was the significance of this apparition? What role does it play in the life of the local bishop? And what role does the Church have to do with it? In this episode, we speak with Fr. Father Jesus Mary, who is a priest in the Archdiocese of Rio de Janeiro.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 You know, when there's times of real disruption in the church, when there's real persecution
00:00:04.340 or real confusion, heaven has often sent messengers, most principally the Holy Mother
00:00:10.400 of God, Mary Most Holy, and visions are known, certain ones like Fatima and Lourdes, of course,
00:00:17.600 but there's also other, what we call private revelations, to bring clarity, to bring people
00:00:25.020 to the faith. We know, for instance, in Mexico, there was massive conversion with Our Lady
00:00:30.740 of Guadalupe. Today, there's much confusion going on, and there is apparitions of Our Lady,
00:00:35.520 or at least messages from Our Lady, given to a fellow named Pedro Regis. It's in Ungera.
00:00:41.140 The local bishop gave a very positive attitude toward it, publicly even. There was just a
00:00:47.120 message, not so long ago, in the last week, that spoke of the Pope saying, Peter is not
00:00:55.460 Peter. We're going to get into that with a priest who knows those messages well, who has
00:01:01.780 also confronted our current day Peter. His name is Father Jesus Mary. Stay tuned.
00:01:17.120 Father Jesus Mary, good to have you back again. Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign
00:01:30.780 of the cross.
00:01:31.700 In nomine partis e filii e spiritu santi. Amen.
00:01:35.540 Amen. Well, thank you, Father, for joining us again. I wanted to talk to you specifically
00:01:40.740 about Our Lady of Ungera, because the message that you shared with me was so very powerful,
00:01:49.180 particularly in light of what you said about Pope Francis right now. The first thing I'd
00:01:57.000 like to do is just look quickly at this video. This is a video of the local bishop, where Pedro
00:02:03.440 Regis is speaking about his apparitions from Our Lady.
00:02:09.880 The bishop has this responsibility to take care of, to follow the people, to be present in
00:02:16.700 the lives of our people. And here, in Feira de Santana, for a long time, there are the
00:02:22.700 called Anguera apparitions. We follow with a lot of attention. And even constituting a commission
00:02:31.280 for discernment. We don't have a position defined, because it is a personal, subjective experience,
00:02:39.520 that we respect, but we can't even say that it is false, nor that it is true. But that this
00:02:48.660 event can, in fact, help people to follow the steps of Jesus and follow the steps of Jesus, and
00:02:55.280 follow everything that Jesus said. Jesus told you to do everything that He already says. He
00:03:02.900 can't really give anything and whatever
00:03:17.960 we have this discernment, now we are in a process of study, of reflection,
00:03:23.960 also the church in Rome has asked us to know about this reality,
00:03:29.960 and at little we have discerned.
00:03:32.960 I am also here now, I also hear this acompanhation,
00:03:38.960 this preocupation of Dom Itamar,
00:03:40.960 and this desire, that everything that is a service of the evangelism
00:03:47.960 can be manifested or respected.
00:03:51.960 And if it is true, as it is in the tradition,
00:03:55.960 if it is of God, it will prevail, it will be manifested.
00:04:00.960 In the Catholic movement, and in these pregations,
00:04:04.960 it talks about the catechese of the church.
00:04:06.960 We are preaching to God, to His Spirit, to feel,
00:04:10.960 to understand what, in fact, is true,
00:04:13.960 and what is the thing that serves for the life and the salvation of people.
00:04:18.960 So Father, if you can tell us,
00:04:20.960 what was the message from, I believe it was June 29th,
00:04:23.960 that Our Lady revealed to Pedro Regis?
00:04:26.960 I will read it directly from the website of Anguera.
00:04:31.960 A message from Our Lady, Queen of Peace,
00:04:34.960 at Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul,
00:04:37.960 transmitted on the 29th of June 2022.
00:04:44.960 Dear children, the road to holiness is full of obstacles,
00:04:49.960 but you are not alone.
00:04:51.960 Courage, my Jesus works with you.
00:04:55.960 And here is the important declaration of Our Lady.
00:05:00.960 Peter is not Peter.
00:05:02.960 Peter will not be Peter.
00:05:05.960 What I speak to you, you cannot understand now,
00:05:09.960 but all will be revealed to you, be faithful to my Jesus,
00:05:14.960 and to the true magisterium of His church.
00:05:18.960 At this moment, I make an extraordinary show of graces
00:05:22.960 fall from heaven upon you, onward without fear.
00:05:27.960 This is the message that I transmit to you today
00:05:31.960 in the name of the Most Holy Trinity.
00:05:34.960 Thank you for having allowed me to reignite you here once more.
00:05:39.960 I bless you in the name of the Father, of the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
00:05:44.960 Amen.
00:05:45.960 Stay in peace.
00:05:47.960 Give us a little bit of the background, first of all,
00:05:50.960 of this apparition of Our Lady of Angera.
00:05:54.960 And also, obviously, the local bishop seems to think much of it.
00:05:58.960 But what's the background of this?
00:06:00.960 The apparition of Angera began in 1987, the 29th of September.
00:06:08.960 So it's in Angera, Brazil.
00:06:11.960 Pedro Regis was a young boy.
00:06:14.960 Our Lady appeared to him.
00:06:17.960 She started, little by little, to teach him to make later public apparitions.
00:06:23.960 But only Pedro could see Our Lady.
00:06:27.960 During the apparition, he took notes of what Our Lady said.
00:06:32.960 And after the apparition, he read.
00:06:34.960 He used to read the message.
00:06:36.960 And how often do these messages come?
00:06:40.960 Are they once a year or...?
00:06:42.960 Rare. Not many. Not many.
00:06:44.960 Since the election of Pope Francis, the apparitions are too many, too many.
00:06:51.960 They're much more frequent.
00:06:52.960 Yes, much more frequent.
00:06:54.960 Okay.
00:06:55.960 Two days as the gap between the messages.
00:06:59.960 Two days or three days.
00:07:01.960 Sometimes we could have a message today and another message the day after.
00:07:06.960 It's incredible.
00:07:07.960 It's incredible.
00:07:08.960 Many times, now, the Virgin says the same we read.
00:07:13.960 The truth.
00:07:14.960 You have to follow the true magisterium of my son, of the church, of my son, of Jesus.
00:07:20.960 So, I think it's important.
00:07:23.960 So, there is something which is wrong now.
00:07:25.960 What did Our Lady in these messages speak?
00:07:28.960 Did she speak at all of Pope John Paul II, for instance, or Pope Benedict?
00:07:32.960 Pope John Paul II, Pope Benedict, and also Pope Francis, yes.
00:07:37.960 The messages concerning explicitly Saint John Paul II and Mother Mary's love for him are numerous and impressive.
00:07:47.960 Let us quote this one.
00:07:49.960 Dear children, I am your mother raised up to heaven.
00:07:54.960 I am always at your side and desire to lead you to God.
00:07:59.960 I want all of you to be converted so you can share the marvels of God with me.
00:08:06.960 Live humbly.
00:08:07.960 Live in the love of God.
00:08:09.960 I want to prepare you.
00:08:11.960 This is my desire.
00:08:12.960 And now, about John Paul II.
00:08:16.960 Today, I want to thank very, especially, my most beloved son, Pope John Paul II, for the special homage given to me by the Holy Marian Year.
00:08:31.960 May the Holy Spirit strengthen and sanctify him more and more.
00:08:36.960 To you, my dear sons, my thank you much.
00:08:40.960 I bless you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
00:08:44.960 Amen.
00:08:45.960 Stay in peace.
00:08:46.960 So, this is from 16th of August, 1988.
00:08:51.960 Another message about Pope John Paul.
00:08:56.960 I also ask you to be faithful to the Church of my Jesus and to intensify your prayers of the 6th of Peter, Pope John Paul II.
00:09:06.960 This is from 2004, the 29th of June, in the Feast of...
00:09:12.960 Ah, it's interesting.
00:09:13.960 In the Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul, in 2004, that was a message concerning Pope John.
00:09:21.960 Concerning Pope Benedict, on the very day of the election of Pope Benedict, I already said,
00:09:27.960 Dear children, pray for the new success of Peter.
00:09:31.960 This is interesting, she said, for the new success of Peter.
00:09:36.960 Why?
00:09:37.960 I say it because on the day of the election of Pope Francis, there was no message, you see.
00:09:43.960 But on the day of the election of Pope Benedict, there was this message.
00:09:47.960 Dear children, pray for the new success of Peter.
00:09:51.960 With him, the Church will go forward, but will be persecuted by her enemies.
00:09:56.960 The Holy Father will experience calvary, for many of his positions will be contrary to the enemies of the Church.
00:10:04.960 Bend your knees in prayer.
00:10:06.960 You are heading for a fixture of great spiritual tribulations.
00:10:12.960 Peter's boats will face great storms, and the throne will shake.
00:10:18.960 Peter will walk among thorns.
00:10:21.960 The cars of the Church will change, and many who are faithful will wash their hands.
00:10:27.960 About Pope Francis, there is only one message, which is clearly addressed to Pope Francis.
00:10:37.960 He said, the 8th of June, 2013, pray for Pope Francis.
00:10:43.960 The Church is heading for a painful future.
00:10:46.960 The decision will go against many, and the path of Calvary will be painful.
00:10:51.960 This is the message.
00:10:53.960 With the name of Pope Francis, it's only one time.
00:11:00.960 We have to say it with many prudence.
00:11:02.960 With prudence, yes.
00:11:03.960 Because these messages are negative messages.
00:11:06.960 So, for example, during the pontificate of Pope Benedict in 2005,
00:11:16.960 Aurelady said, vengeance will come to the throne of Peter.
00:11:20.960 And in 2006, she said, the day will come when a man of good appearance will arise and deceive many people with his false ideology.
00:11:31.960 Even consecrated people will be seduced.
00:11:34.960 And in 2008, she said, he who could be bitter will become Judas.
00:11:43.960 He will open the doors to the enemies and make men and women of faith suffer.
00:11:49.960 And a few years before Francis was elected, Aurelady said, the day will come when an apparently good and just man will appear.
00:11:59.960 He will deceive many people, for he will realize great apologies.
00:12:05.960 He will come from the southern hemisphere.
00:12:08.960 He will come from the southern hemisphere.
00:12:11.960 And many people will consider him as a savior.
00:12:14.960 Pay attention not to be deceived.
00:12:16.960 This is from 2010, the last message before the election of Pope Francis, 2011.
00:12:24.960 When you live in a time of great spiritual confusion, when a man presents himself with three names, there will be great confusion in the house of God.
00:12:43.960 Is this message about Pope Francis?
00:12:46.960 Many signs compel us to say yes, but as the name of the Pope is not clearly mentioned, this is the role of the cardinal and the bishop to make the good interpretation.
00:12:59.960 Most interesting, I thought, was that other one that you mentioned about how Peter will become Judas and cause harm to so many.
00:13:08.960 Well, we certainly are, you know, in the most confusing times, and it's particularly those times where you might say the diabolic disorientation is everywhere.
00:13:23.960 That heaven gives her poor little children, and it's particularly for the little children, these kind of lights of private revelation, which are given simply and humbly.
00:13:38.960 And they're there for the faithful to take solace, to have something, to have a mother to listen to.
00:13:47.960 Any final thoughts on the message of Angera, Father?
00:13:52.960 The 13th of May, Our Lady of Fatima, the day of Our Lady of Fatima, the year 2000.
00:13:58.960 Our Lady said, you are living in the time of great combat.
00:14:04.960 The weapon for your defense is the Holy Rosary. Pray it with love, and you will be saved.
00:14:11.960 If humanity had healed the call I made at Fatima, humanity would be spiritually healed.
00:14:19.960 If many in the past have not opened themselves to my appeals, you can do so.
00:14:25.960 So, my faithful one, for spiritual security of each one of you, I offer you my Immaculate Heart.
00:14:33.960 Consecrate yourself to me, and you will always have my special protection.
00:14:39.960 Has the message of Angera been of consolation to you?
00:14:42.960 You, of course, have been, you're under sort of a persecution from Rome right now for voicing your concerns for Pope Francis.
00:14:52.960 You've been stripped of your priestly duties by Opus Dei.
00:14:56.960 In fact, it got really, really bad very recently when we had you on the show before.
00:15:01.960 And that was when you were stripped even of the ability to say a private mass by yourself.
00:15:07.960 And you called it, and rightfully so, the sort of death of your priesthood in a way.
00:15:11.960 You're not able to do what a priest is called to do.
00:15:17.960 How has Our Lady of Angera's messages affected you?
00:15:21.960 Angera, for me, is a message of peace, a message of peace, and also a message of hope.
00:15:26.960 A message of hope.
00:15:28.960 And the message of Our Lady encourages us to defend the truth, to defend the truth in the church.
00:15:35.960 And she said that we have the victory.
00:15:38.960 So it's a message of hope.
00:15:40.960 When the faithful are silent, we strengthen the enemies of the church.
00:15:46.960 So the faithful of the church have not to be silent.
00:15:52.960 They have to speak out, to say, we disagree with this new doctrine.
00:15:57.960 People want to teach in the church.
00:16:00.960 It's not the traditional doctrine.
00:16:02.960 So it's not good.
00:16:05.960 It's not good.
00:16:06.960 Well, may we all follow the inspiration, the guidance of Our Lady Angera in not being silent,
00:16:13.960 speaking out as you have, Father, to defend the faith.
00:16:17.960 God bless you.
00:16:18.960 Thank you.
00:16:19.960 And God bless all of you.
00:16:21.960 Let's take up our message and defend the faith.
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