The John-Henry Westen Show - Steve Mosher exposed the COVID lab leak a year ago

00:00:00.000 Hello, and welcome to this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, where I'm very pleased

00:00:04.300 to bring you a hero in the pro-life movement, Stephen Mosher, who all of you know as the

00:00:09.500 head of Population Research Institute, but he's also the author of the book, The Bully

00:00:13.820 of Asia, All About China. 0.96

00:00:15.100 He's the one who first discovered and brought to the West the realization of the horrific

00:00:20.280 one-child policy, but he was also very right in terms of calling out, the first one really, 0.96

00:00:26.980 to call out the lab leak theory, as we're talking about it now, about this Wuhan flu,

00:00:34.140 or coronavirus as we all know it, coming out of the lab in China, which was denied everywhere. 0.95

00:00:39.860 People shut down for even saying it by Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc., etc.

00:00:44.640 We've got Stephen Mosher with us.

00:00:46.260 You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:56.980 Stephen Mosher, thank you for being with us on the program.

00:01:09.680 Good to be here, John Henry.

00:01:11.400 So this is a little bit of a gloating opportunity.

00:01:16.040 You were right.

00:01:16.920 You were proved right.

00:01:18.100 And here we are.

00:01:20.920 And now they're trying to backpedal themselves into some excuse for it was Trump's fault that

00:01:26.960 we couldn't believe it in the first place.

00:01:30.200 Yeah.

00:01:30.760 Well, let's let's take the victory lap together, John Henry, because I think the first article

00:01:35.040 I published about the lab leak was in LifeSite News in mid-February.

00:01:39.800 And and for suggesting that the China virus came from a Wuhan lab, of course, the censors

00:01:47.640 of Silicon Valley tried to silence me, tried to silence you, tried to silence.

00:01:52.160 I mean, my goodness.

00:01:52.960 I wrote another article for The New York Post, which is the fourth largest newspaper in the

00:01:56.760 country.

00:01:57.240 They tried to silence The New York Post, for goodness sake.

00:02:01.400 And and I think they succeeded in the minds of a lot of people.

00:02:04.460 I mean, I thought that my my LifeSite News article in February really understated the

00:02:10.460 lab leak hypothesis.

00:02:11.980 I mean, I only called it a possibility, but Facebook quickly moved to suppress that column.

00:02:17.860 It suppressed the column in The New York Post and in the Post case.

00:02:21.240 They complained bitterly, but it was still locked for two months.

00:02:25.520 The Facebook refused to unlock the opinion piece in the fourth largest newspaper in the

00:02:31.640 United States for two months, basically banned the column columns by me that that carefully

00:02:37.060 raised the possibility of a lab leak virus.

00:02:40.620 You know, I turned out to be sort of the tip of the iceberg of censorship that descended

00:02:44.440 upon the topic.

00:02:45.660 And what I what I wrote, you know, because we didn't know as much then as we knew now.

00:02:50.000 But what I did was I started to put the pieces together and all roads led to the Wuhan lab.

00:02:55.420 Um, I said that that China had a very shoddy lab safety record. 0.99

00:03:01.180 I said that as soon as the pandemic broke out in Wuhan, who did they send? 0.99

00:03:07.340 Who did they send to Wuhan?

00:03:09.140 But but Major General Chunwei, Beijing's top biowar expert to Wuhan that raised red flags

00:03:16.520 for me because I thought, OK, if the People's Liberation Army is involved in this process,

00:03:21.760 maybe this was not just purely scientific research going on.

00:03:27.100 Maybe they were actually doing something else.

00:03:29.820 And then I talked about the fact that researchers in China often sell lab rats and monkeys on

00:03:36.620 the live animal market after experimenting with them.

00:03:39.500 And yet, even though all that, you know, was was clearly documented, Facebook fact checkers

00:03:45.280 put a false information alert on the column, false information and blocked my friends from

00:03:50.840 reading it for themselves and and LifeSide News readers.

00:03:53.960 Never mind my careful caveats and the fact that this was an opinion piece, right?

00:03:58.500 It's an opinion piece.

00:03:59.700 We still don't have all the facts, John Henry, but we never will because they've either been

00:04:04.240 destroyed in the last year and a half by the Chinese Communist Party seeking to cover up

00:04:09.140 its tracks or they'll well, they'll simply never allow us into the lab because it is a joint.

00:04:14.160 This research we now know, we now know, we didn't know then, but we know now is joint 0.75

00:04:19.100 civilian military research.

00:04:21.700 All right.

00:04:22.180 It was carried out, being carried out as part of a People's Liberation Army bioweapons program. 0.83

00:04:29.280 And so anyway, for suggesting this back in February, the mainstream media hammered me as

00:04:35.020 conspiracy theorist and slammed everybody who mentioned it.

00:04:38.880 You know, but now the cover up has unraveled.

00:04:42.200 Why?

00:04:42.740 Well, number one, we've had an election and they can no longer use the China virus and 0.81

00:04:49.220 the pandemic to attack Donald Trump.

00:04:51.300 So now they're they believe they're free politically to speak the truth because it won't

00:04:55.480 politically help someone they they detest.

00:04:59.960 I supported Trump.

00:05:01.220 I still support Donald Trump.

00:05:02.440 I think he did a lot of very good things for the country, especially in the pro-life front

00:05:05.700 and vis-a-vis China.

00:05:07.200 He got China policy right. 0.88

00:05:08.700 The first president to get China policy right in, I don't know, 30, 30 years.

00:05:12.860 That's a pretty good achievement.

00:05:14.620 And so now you've got the mainstream media.

00:05:17.560 We've got the New York Magazine's January cover story talking about the lab leak hypothesis.

00:05:22.300 They didn't get banned.

00:05:23.300 Of course, they're a left wing magazine, right?

00:05:25.540 They talked about how China virus is a human engineered virus that escaped from the Wuhan lab. 0.54

00:05:30.840 A few days ago, we had a Wall Street Journal report, which noted that three researchers

00:05:35.280 from the Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill and went to the hospital in November 2019.

00:05:41.960 Well, gee, that's just right around the time the virus began spreading in the city.

00:05:46.380 Three researchers from the Wuhan Institute of Virology fell ill with what was probably

00:05:50.720 the China virus.

00:05:53.160 So, you know, we've got we've got all that coming out.

00:05:56.080 And two weeks ago, we had 18 highly respected scientists wrote to Science Magazine that saying

00:06:01.840 that, quote, we must take the hypothesis about laboratory spillovers seriously.

00:06:07.180 And even Dr. Anthony Fauci, who tried to cover up, I think, his mistakes by supporting the

00:06:13.420 Wuhan lab and by training the people who work there, has now reversed himself.

00:06:17.200 And he no longer rules out the lab leak theory because the evidence is simply overwhelming.

00:06:23.460 And he would be, you know, mocked and scorned if he if he denied the the accumulating body

00:06:29.240 of evidence here.

00:06:29.980 And then, of course, the Chinese regime, of course, did everything it could to cover up

00:06:34.860 the the virus, which it is responsible for.

00:06:39.760 I mean, there should be reparations.

00:06:42.180 There should be consequences for the Chinese Communist Party creating bioengineering a dangerous 1.00

00:06:48.040 virus in their lab and then releasing it deliberately on the world. 0.93

00:06:52.040 There should be trillions of dollars in reparations paid.

00:06:55.540 The Chinese Communist Party should should be a pariah in the eyes of the world and not be

00:07:01.240 allowed to take advantage of the pandemic they unleashed to solidify their position as one 0.61

00:07:06.220 of the leading powers.

00:07:07.900 So that's what happened.

00:07:09.520 I think we're now into into a period of where the mainstream media is being a little more honest

00:07:17.220 about what happened.

00:07:18.120 But instead of admitting they were wrong, John Henry, they're going back and they're changing

00:07:22.040 headlines.

00:07:22.840 They're going back and they're rewriting history.

00:07:24.840 They're going back and doing what George Orwell described Winston Smith doing in 1984,

00:07:30.640 rewriting past newspaper stories, throwing the old stories down the memory hole and then

00:07:36.860 rewriting the story to conform present day reality.

00:07:39.580 So there's no self-reflection.

00:07:41.240 There's no self-awareness there.

00:07:42.540 There's just arrogance.

00:07:43.500 The idea that they can they can they can continue to gaslight us forever whenever they want to.

00:07:50.020 Yeah, there's so many things there.

00:07:51.640 I 100 percent agree with you that about the need for reparation from China. 0.93

00:07:56.880 It's crazy that that's not being talked about.

00:08:00.100 That's not being absolutely pushed.

00:08:03.020 But there's another item here that is so revealing of where things are really at.

00:08:08.060 I know people dislike you because of your political beliefs.

00:08:12.380 They they hate that you were involved with the Trump administration and you were such

00:08:16.700 a big mover and shaker in terms of getting the U.S.

00:08:19.500 and basically the Republicans to recognize the damage that China was doing to its own people

00:08:24.540 with the one child policy and the U.N.

00:08:27.180 population arm involved in that and the cut of American funds to that.

00:08:32.900 Thank largely, if not solely, thanks to you.

00:08:35.640 But that hatred can translate into ignoring real research.

00:08:41.160 You are familiar, not familiar with your you speak the Chinese languages better and you can read them.

00:08:48.600 You know what was going on.

00:08:49.760 You presented the evidence, crucial evidence about one of the hugest things going on in all the world.

00:08:55.500 And yet their hatred is such that they will ignore you, dismiss you and call it fake news.

00:09:02.220 That that's just it's it boggles the mind.

00:09:05.660 It's very, very enraging, actually.

00:09:07.620 Yeah, it's the abandonment of reason and logic in favor of, you know, prejudices and political biases that color everything.

00:09:18.140 I mean, it must politics must be in the water that they drink because it's so glued to their minds.

00:09:23.660 They can't they can't think straight anymore.

00:09:25.980 I may disagree with, you know, what someone says.

00:09:30.340 But of course, as as the old phrase goes, I'll defend to the death the right to say it.

00:09:35.120 Free discussion and open debate is is the lifeblood of a democracy.

00:09:40.440 And we always counted upon the media to provide that for us.

00:09:44.720 And now what do we have to do?

00:09:46.300 Well, now we have to read the if we read The New York Times at all, which which I generally don't, if I can avoid it.

00:09:53.920 But I read it with not just with a grain of salt, with the whole shaker, because I know it's really a probably reading a political headpiece.

00:10:02.040 So you have to go to places like LifeSite News and other alternative media, new media to get the truth about what's going on with regard to the China virus, with what's going on with regard to vaccines and what's going on with regard to China itself, because there's so much that's being being hidden.

00:10:19.460 And if it's not being if it's not being discussed in a biased and prejudiced manner to present a certain political point of view, it's simply being silenced.

00:10:30.440 They won't cover the story at all, dropping it again down the memory hole.

00:10:36.100 So I'm really disappointed in a lot of our institutions at this point in time.

00:10:39.880 John Henry, I'm very disappointed in our governing institutions.

00:10:43.960 I'm very disappointed in in in our intelligence agencies, which failed, of course, to to provide.

00:10:51.040 Well, we that's another story, of course, but have have misled us in in various manners over the last couple of years.

00:10:59.120 I'm very disappointed in in the FBI.

00:11:02.440 I'm also disappointed in the media.

00:11:04.260 This requires the situation we're in right now requires a grassroots effort to get involved in in in politics at the local level, a school board level, the local political level, the county level, the municipal level, the city level, and really take back take back our country because we're in danger of of of of losing it, quite frankly.

00:11:25.040 In a way, I don't think we've been since since the Civil War back in the 1860s.

00:11:30.460 Absolutely.

00:11:31.200 And probably the most horrific thing or one of them is they were willing to to do this falsehood, to voice this falsehood at the cost of human lives, massive cost of human lives.

00:11:40.980 Who knows what would could have been accomplished with regard to coronavirus had they realized, oh, my gosh, there's something here.

00:11:47.940 This lab leak theory isn't just a theory.

00:11:49.740 Let's move forward with it.

00:11:50.680 But they didn't do that until a year later. 0.94

00:11:53.480 Absolutely ridiculous.

00:11:55.040 Let me talk to you about something that seems related because the, you know, the shutdown from Facebook, from Twitter, from Google, and therefore YouTube, of this information, of key information, this is very much like what they're doing in China already.

00:12:13.780 And there's a lot of control in China.

00:12:16.480 They have the greatest control of the Internet, probably of the whole planet.

00:12:20.560 Facebook cooperates with them in that insanity.

00:12:23.200 But I wanted to talk to you about something that's very key going on in China.

00:12:28.840 Right at the beginning of the pandemic, they had this, you know, the app with the little green, I can go in here and it follows you.

00:12:36.820 It tells you if you're close to somebody, you get a score and so on.

00:12:40.340 And they've tied this now to the social credit score where they have to listen to Xi Jinping and his speeches and they get points for that and it can be connected to their bank account and all this insanity.

00:12:51.840 Do you see this coming here, coming to the rest of the world?

00:12:56.700 Do you think that this is being exported, this kind of idea, the social credit system whereby they're following you everywhere through your device?

00:13:02.620 It's a very, very seductive tool of mind control for people with who have the intention, perhaps, of dissolving national borders and dissolving our national identity and putting us permanently under the control of some sort of multinational organization, international organization, globalist government.

00:13:22.540 Because think about it. In China, it's overt. It won't come to us in quite that same way.

00:13:29.720 It'll come to us in a more covert fashion. But let's talk about the Chinese, the Chinese model first, because it's it's really for anyone who values liberty and freedom, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of assembly, freedom of association.

00:13:42.000 It's chilling to think that in China today, people have to have on their cell phone a Xi Jinping app that they're required every day to to visit and spend 20 minutes reading a statement, a an essay by Xi Jinping and answering questions on it.

00:14:01.580 And if you answer the questions right, you get points. And if you don't, you have to do it again or you get points deducted from what we call a social credit score, which you mentioned.

00:14:09.500 But it's not really social credit. It's political credit, because it's all an effort to try to get inside your mind and shape your view of the Chinese Communist Party of Xi Jinping and of China and the world itself.

00:14:24.200 It's an effort at mind control. And it's, you know, people carried around on their own phone.

00:14:29.320 Now, the phone also does this. It tracks you wherever you go. So the Chinese Communist Party, through artificial intelligence and big data, knows where you go. 0.75

00:14:37.300 It knows what you buy, because you often in China pay for purchases using your cell phone.

00:14:44.680 It knows who you talk to. It monitors all of your your Chinese version of Facebook and Chinese version of Twitter back and forth with your friends and colleagues and so forth.

00:14:55.400 In China, they don't allow Twitter. They have Weibo, which is basically Twitter stolen by the Chinese Communist Party and used inside of China exclusively.

00:15:06.620 They monitor all of your electronic communications and artificial intelligence.

00:15:11.620 Big data, of course, goes through and looks for keywords and phrases.

00:15:15.020 And if you say things flattering about the Chinese Communist Party, your political credit score, social credit score goes up.

00:15:21.360 If you say things that are unflattering, if you associate with people who are have a low social credit score, your social credit score goes down.

00:15:28.020 And so really, you're being tracked in real time by artificial intelligence and everything is stored in big data and and and you're given an overall credit score.

00:15:40.160 And the credit is how much credit you have in the eyes of the Chinese Communist Party.

00:15:44.760 That is, how close are you adhering to the party line?

00:15:48.060 So, you see, in the old days of the Cultural Revolution, you had to yank people out of their factories and their schools and their offices and and have them do study sessions in the evening for two hours.

00:15:58.000 Well, it's much simpler now.

00:15:59.600 You just use artificial intelligence, big data and the electronic devices that everybody is on all the time, cell phones and computers to track them in real time.

00:16:07.780 And so it's it's much more efficient now.

00:16:10.600 We always thought that that true totalitarianism would be unachievable.

00:16:16.240 And in fact, the left used to scoff at the idea, you know, who can who can watch everybody all the time?

00:16:20.600 There aren't enough watchers to watch everybody who's going to police the police.

00:16:23.600 There aren't enough police to police everybody.

00:16:25.140 Well, people using these electronic devices in combination with artificial intelligence and big data are policing themselves.

00:16:32.900 And the government knows everything basically about you.

00:16:35.860 And if your social credit score goes up, what can you do?

00:16:39.380 Well, freedom awaits you in the sense that you can get a passport, you get an exit visa, you can travel outside the country.

00:16:45.960 You can travel inside the country on planes.

00:16:49.180 If your social credit score goes down, all of those doors are closed.

00:16:53.100 You can't leave the country.

00:16:54.120 You can't take a flight inside China.

00:16:56.840 You can't even ride the bullet trains.

00:16:58.480 You have to ride the slow trains in the hard seat section.

00:17:01.760 And so instead of taking two hours to get from Shanghai to Beijing, it takes you a couple of days.

00:17:06.900 So and you can't get a low interest rate loan to buy a house.

00:17:10.180 You know, all the doors are closed to you.

00:17:11.940 So this is a way of putting isolating people in individual almost cells of fear because the people of China know that the party is watching all the time, not just on your devices.

00:17:24.200 But China has more security cameras than the rest of the world combined.

00:17:28.740 19 of the 20 cities with the most security cameras per person are located in China.

00:17:36.000 So they're really literally watching you all the time.

00:17:38.460 In Beijing now, if you jaywalk, the security camera will catch you jaywalking.

00:17:43.800 Face recognition technology will identify who you are.

00:17:47.300 And the fine for jaywalking will be automatically deducted from your bank account without the necessity for human intervention.

00:17:53.280 So totalitarian control is here.

00:17:56.680 It's alive and well in China. 0.97

00:17:58.200 Now, what does that say for the rest of the world?

00:18:00.100 Well, would-be dictators.

00:18:02.280 And by that, I don't just mean people like Kim Jong-un in North Korea or Xi Jinping in China.

00:18:07.160 People with dictatorial tendencies, people who like being in power, like being in control of people's lives, and that describes a lot of leftists, a lot of progressives, a lot of socialists, a lot of people on the left side of the spectrum, look at this and they say, what a wonderful mechanism for social and political control.

00:18:28.120 Would that we would have something like that here.

00:18:31.800 Well, in a sense, right now, the left is cobbling together a sort of left-wing equivalent to what's going on in China because they've got this revolving door between the Democrat Party and high tech, right?

00:18:47.800 We know that people go back and forth from the Democrat administrations into Silicon Valley and so forth, and back and forth into the mainstream media, NBC, CBS, ABC, all the rest, CNN.

00:19:01.020 There's a revolving door there.

00:19:02.360 So these people are all in the same group with the same political views.

00:19:07.780 And what they're doing sort of covertly, not overtly, but sort of just harmonizing their efforts, results in all the suppression of information about the origin of the China virus in a lab in the city of Wuhan, China, which was part of China's bioweapons program. 0.74

00:19:25.000 It results in the suppression of articles and opinion pieces written by me and others about the origins of the China virus.

00:19:33.380 It results in the exaltation of Dr. Anthony Fauci, who basically got everything wrong about the pandemic.

00:19:39.600 And now it turns out that the hero of the pandemic may be his greatest villain because Dr. Anthony Fauci was the one who was pushing for dangerous, risky gain-of-function research after everybody else in the virology field said,

00:19:51.940 no, Dr. Fauci, that's too dangerous.

00:19:54.820 We shouldn't do that here.

00:19:56.460 We're going to put a moratorium on it.

00:19:58.220 And he skirted the moratorium by training people from China to continue to do the research and then actually sending funding indirectly to the Wuhan lab.

00:20:07.560 Now, he says it didn't go for gain-of-function research, but he doesn't know that.

00:20:12.200 I don't know that.

00:20:13.160 Funds are fungible.

00:20:14.080 You give money to the Chinese Communist Party, they're going to use it for whatever they want to use it for. 0.65

00:20:19.720 So all this is being covered up by the left, by the high-tech oligarchs, by the mainstream media,

00:20:28.700 in conjunction with and consort with their friends on the left side of the political spectrum in Washington, in government right now.

00:20:38.600 So again, it's not so much a – I don't see it really as a conscious conspiracy.

00:20:45.660 These people didn't all get in a room 20 years ago and say, this is what we're going to do.

00:20:49.580 They're just working along parallel lines.

00:20:51.680 And they're working for the same goals in their own fashion.

00:20:55.180 And they work together more often than not.

00:20:58.740 Unbelievable stuff.

00:21:00.220 Tell us as we close up here, what can people do to fight this?

00:21:05.940 How should we move forward?

00:21:08.040 Well, I think the primary thing that people can do is keep themselves informed,

00:21:12.160 because this is on the part of China, on the part of the left in the United States.

00:21:18.100 This is a propaganda exercise.

00:21:20.200 This is information warfare.

00:21:22.760 We are at war with China, not because we want to be, but because China declared war on us back in 1991.

00:21:30.280 They did openly.

00:21:32.180 The then leader, Deng Xiaoping, said the old Cold War is over.

00:21:36.360 The new Cold War is now going to begin between China and the United States, and we're going to win this one. 1.00

00:21:41.220 So China basically is at war with us.

00:21:44.160 It wants to defeat us, by all means possible, including by unleashing a virus on the United States.

00:21:50.320 But we have to continue to inform ourselves, and the only way we're going to do that successfully

00:21:54.540 is by using media outlets like LifeSite News and others on a daily basis,

00:22:01.820 and not just reading the information from LifeSite and other sources, but circulating it among our friends

00:22:08.840 in every way we can possibly do so.

00:22:13.360 We all have our own little social media empires.

00:22:16.840 They may only consist of 10 people or 100 people or 1,000 people, but we are all influencers,

00:22:21.840 and we've all got to rise up and share information.

00:22:25.360 Knowledge is power, as they say, and this war, this information war, is going to be won or lost

00:22:31.840 in the sharing and understanding of information.

00:22:36.900 Stephen Mosher, always great being with you.

00:22:38.800 Thank you so very much.

00:22:40.180 God bless you.

00:22:41.040 Thank you.

00:22:41.520 God bless.

00:22:42.080 God bless all of you, and we'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - June 04, 2021

Steve Mosher exposed the COVID lab leak a year ago

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