The John-Henry Westen Show - May 07, 2025


The Final Pope？! Mysterious PROPHECY Revealed ｜ Fr. Altman


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Cardinal Pizzaballi from the Holy Land is being talked about as the most likely candidate to become Pope in the upcoming conclave. What does he have in common with Pope John Paul II? Is he a good Catholic? And is he a bad Catholic?

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00:00:00.000 The first time I've been so hopeful about this conclave was learning more and more about Cardinal Pizzaballi.
00:00:05.820 You couldn't make that up.
00:00:06.760 No, there's no way you could make that up.
00:00:10.960 Well, my friends, it's a great honor for me to be here with Father James Altman, who needs no introduction to any of you.
00:00:19.600 And I wanted to talk to him about, we're taping this a couple days early, but we're going to be releasing this on May the 6th,
00:00:26.260 the day before starts the conclave, the election of the Pope.
00:00:31.300 That first day, they'll only have one vote after the prayers and the Mass and so on.
00:00:34.760 But it's an obviously historic time.
00:00:39.240 And one of the things I want to talk to Father about are his thoughts about the conclave,
00:00:45.400 but specifically one of the men who is being talked about,
00:00:50.960 and that man being talked about is Pierre-Baptiste Pizzaballi, Cardinal Pizzaballi from the Holy Land.
00:00:59.060 He's being talked about because, you know, there's a lot of things to him.
00:01:03.380 He's the guy who, when the October 7th attack happened, he was asked about, you know, taking the place of the hostages.
00:01:10.420 Of course he would.
00:01:11.160 And that has got him talked about.
00:01:13.760 He's in a war zone, a mega war zone.
00:01:15.840 He's got to deal with the Arabs on one side, the Jews on the other, and how do you make that work? 0.99
00:01:23.560 He himself was from Italy and then learned Jewish and actually studied at the Hebrew University with the Jews.
00:01:33.540 And while there, he felt that was true ecumenism because they were asking him about the faith.
00:01:41.060 What are you doing here?
00:01:41.940 You're a Catholic.
00:01:42.520 And he was able to tell them about our Lord Jesus Christ.
00:01:44.940 And that's the kind of ecumenism that all parties are supposed to love.
00:01:50.020 But that's true ecumenism.
00:01:52.340 And so there's a lot of hope in this man.
00:01:57.460 The one other story we heard about Cardinal Pizzaballi is this beautiful story about Catholic education in the Holy Land,
00:02:06.000 where he was finding those who, catechizing, were not doing a great job.
00:02:11.860 And so he had to, you know, let those folks go and take on the duties himself with other people.
00:02:18.280 Yes.
00:02:19.180 Boy, oh boy, is that something we need.
00:02:21.820 So, Father, there's your intro and what we're considering.
00:02:24.920 And I'd love to hear your take.
00:02:25.860 I had peripheral knowledge of this guy who had offered himself as a hostage.
00:02:31.720 And I thought, that's what a magnificent thing for a true Catholic to do.
00:02:35.020 But I didn't connect all the dots that Pierre really means Peter, that he's from Italy, but also now he's in the Holy Land.
00:02:44.980 And I'm like, almost like a patriarch of some sort down there.
00:02:48.300 When you look at the prophecies, which I don't keep that up on either, but the prophecies like about there's only so many circles that say St. Paul's outside the wall.
00:02:59.740 And then they added a few more.
00:03:01.080 But if they hadn't added a few more, I think there was only room for one left.
00:03:04.720 Yeah.
00:03:05.200 Is that right?
00:03:05.720 That's very interesting.
00:03:06.520 That was based on the prophecies of St. Malachi because he had the list of the popes.
00:03:11.380 And what I found fascinating anyway, is that years ago now, the circular pictures that they have up along the crest of the ceiling, all around St. Paul outside the walls, had exactly enough after JP2 to have just two more.
00:03:29.920 Right.
00:03:30.240 From Malachi's list anyway, it seemed very much like you had John Paul II with the glory of the sun, and then you had the glory of the sun, and then you had the glory of the olive, which was Benedict because of his connection there that way.
00:03:48.580 And then there was room for one more, and that one more was Peter the Roman.
00:03:51.920 And that's why, early in Bergoglio's time, they thought, aha, he's actually got some Italian in him, and therefore he's the Roman, and how they got to, and he was Pope, Peter, therefore.
00:04:02.640 But, yeah, obviously, that doesn't, Peter the Roman's supposed to be a holy pope.
00:04:07.440 Right.
00:04:07.780 And that was not, that was definitely, and I'm glad everybody is now agreeing, because, you know, beforehand, we were among the only few who would point out the error so grave, so great,
00:04:19.380 it's almost, it's almost impossible to calculate.
00:04:22.640 Yeah.
00:04:23.520 So, yeah, so it couldn't be him.
00:04:24.900 And it's funny now, many of the people who would have condemned a lot of people who were pointing out the errors are now, yeah, that was bad.
00:04:34.580 Yeah.
00:04:34.980 What is that?
00:04:35.840 Now they're jumping on the bandwagon, a little late, but now this guy.
00:04:39.540 His name is Pierre Battista.
00:04:41.720 Peter the Baptist.
00:04:43.160 Now, I need you on that, but then also, he is Italian.
00:04:46.200 He is a Roman, like, he's from the historical seat in Rome, the Roman Empire, and yet he's in Jerusalem.
00:04:53.920 That's fascinating.
00:04:54.580 Oh, God, I couldn't even make up a Hollywood script as so perfect as this one is.
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00:05:31.920 But when you realize that, you remember the Benedictus here, when Zacharias talking about John the Baptist, who was just born,
00:05:41.020 you, my son, will go before the Lord to prepare his way.
00:05:43.520 I mean, how perfect if this guy is Peter the Baptist going before the Lord to prepare his way.
00:05:48.680 I mean, I won't be surprised if it's the end of the world, or the Christ is coming, I won't be surprised if it's not. 0.57
00:05:54.240 I think there's going to be way too many people that are going to be surprised if it is.
00:05:58.620 What better person to be elevated to the papacy, but a faithful Catholic willing to be a martyr, take me instead of them, 0.98
00:06:08.140 just like Maximilio Colby, right?
00:06:10.300 Take me instead of them, and to go before the Lord to prepare his way.
00:06:15.340 How perfect.
00:06:16.300 I'm feeling joy about it.
00:06:17.620 Now, I'm not, oh, I'm not scared.
00:06:19.300 I'm not like a conspiracy theorist about any of this.
00:06:23.020 I'm just filled with joy by it, the possibility of, wow, he might be the one.
00:06:27.860 We heard yesterday in all our discussions that Bergoglio has so appointed so many cardinals from all over the place that nobody knows anybody.
00:06:36.020 So they can't really get these factions together beforehand, and they're going to have to work out, hopefully, with the Holy Spirit.
00:06:43.160 Remember what Cardinal George said, though, is that the Holy Spirit does indeed speak to the conclave, but not everybody listens.
00:06:48.880 These people are going to somehow have to listen, because they can't even, like, quibble amongst themselves or form their little sinister plotting,
00:06:56.460 and maybe this is what will become of it.
00:06:59.140 Well, we'll see soon enough.
00:07:00.660 One of the things you said this morning at Mass was so fascinating, and it pertains to what we've lost.
00:07:08.560 There are many things that we've lost when the church changed the Mass, and it was a big deal.
00:07:16.440 But over this past 12 years, we've lost so much, because the story is so fascinating.
00:07:22.860 I think many people, A, won't know it, and B, it will connect so many dots and also show the beauty of what we lost.
00:07:31.840 I'd say that the church didn't change the Mass.
00:07:33.760 Bad people that were in the leadership roles in the church changed the Holy Sacrifice of Mass, contrary to the dogma of the church, which says you cannot change the Mass.
00:07:43.600 So what they did was, after Vatican II, this committee gets together, and they remove from our daily sacred liturgy
00:07:50.920 very important saints and people that teach us about the foundations of our faith.
00:07:56.960 And in this particular case, I came upon it because doing the daily Mass, you come upon this saint or that saint, and you say,
00:08:03.900 I've never heard of this person before.
00:08:05.800 So this particular day was St. Simeon.
00:08:08.380 Now, the only Simeon that I ever knew of was the one that was in the temple with Anna, who received Jesus when Mary and Joseph brought Jesus in on day eight.
00:08:17.260 So I thought, oh, that's what I'm getting myself into, but let me do a little research.
00:08:20.080 And no, St. Simeon was part of Jesus's immediate family.
00:08:28.120 And so here's the way it works, because anybody who's ever wondered, so Jesus appeared on the road to Emmaus, right, to Klopas and another disciple.
00:08:36.060 And I'm thinking, I never understood, well, why did he go see them first?
00:08:40.960 Before the apostles.
00:08:41.760 Before the apostles.
00:08:42.520 Well, it turns out, so you have Mary and Joseph and Jesus.
00:08:48.080 Joseph's brother was Klopas.
00:08:50.620 Klopas was married to Mary of Klopas.
00:08:53.440 And if you remember, at the foot of the cross was Mary, his mother, Mary of Klopas.
00:08:58.500 And Mary Magdalene.
00:08:59.180 And Mary Magdalene.
00:09:00.320 So Jesus's aunt was at the foot of the cross.
00:09:04.040 And he went to visit his uncle when he rose from the dead, Klopas. 0.83
00:09:07.820 But then what was stunning to me is that Mary of Klopas, husband and wife, had several children, one of which was James the Less, the first bishop of Rome, who was martyred.
00:09:23.900 An apostle.
00:09:24.740 And an apostle.
00:09:26.080 So Jesus's cousin, who knew?
00:09:28.620 Because you wonder how he chose.
00:09:29.760 He went up the mountain, right, prayed.
00:09:31.640 He chose his cousin, James the Less, who was the first bishop.
00:09:34.860 And James the Less then was martyred.
00:09:36.440 Yeah.
00:09:36.760 The second bishop of Rome was St. Simeon.
00:09:40.640 And it turns out that St. Simeon was James the Less's brother.
00:09:45.620 Meaning his parents also were Klopas and Mary of Klopas.
00:09:49.500 And he was martyred too.
00:09:51.040 So now you've got two cousins of Jesus that were martyred.
00:09:53.280 And then actually, because John the Baptist, he was like a second cousin through Elizabeth and Zechariah.
00:09:58.380 But James the Less and St. Simeon also had another brother, St. Jude Thaddeus, another apostle and also a martyr.
00:10:07.000 And that's why in the Bible, they always say James and Jude, the cousins of our Lord.
00:10:12.180 Yeah.
00:10:12.400 The brothers of our Lord.
00:10:13.220 Yeah, right.
00:10:13.980 Yeah, yeah.
00:10:14.280 Just stunning.
00:10:15.820 I mean, in one sense, the word brother means not like brother like I have a brother.
00:10:22.760 No, no, I know very well because in India, where my mom's from, everybody is all your cousins.
00:10:28.460 They call me Chetan, which means older brother.
00:10:30.480 Okay.
00:10:30.920 Yeah.
00:10:31.040 And so for all those who are not from America or from Britain or Canada, when in foreign countries, they're saying brother, it means cousin and everybody understands it.
00:10:44.260 Right.
00:10:44.500 Everybody understands it.
00:10:44.880 So there's no confusion for us.
00:10:46.120 Right.
00:10:46.420 But we understand over in America, you're like, aha.
00:10:49.060 And so many evangelicals, I said brother, and therefore you know what that means.
00:10:51.740 But you know what they're doing?
00:10:52.540 They're listening to it.
00:10:53.360 They're reading it in an English language that didn't exist 300 years ago.
00:10:56.900 So a misinterpretation of an ancient language that they don't understand the context in which it's even spoken.
00:11:03.820 And then they claim to be an authority in their personal interpretation.
00:11:06.580 So they're misleading Christians everywhere with their foolish interpretation. 0.96
00:11:10.680 But anyway, point is, it wasn't safe to be a cousin of Jesus.
00:11:14.920 There's four that were martyred that we know of.
00:11:18.400 No, but what a stunning, what a stunning story to which I never would have known any of this.
00:11:23.840 Had I not celebrated the traditional Latin mass, which was the only dogmatic mass of the Holy Catholic Church,
00:11:29.920 just remains the only dogmatic mass.
00:11:32.440 And when you read it, the Holy Mother Church used to teach us through the sacred liturgy about our faith.
00:11:37.680 That was stolen from us.
00:11:39.560 The first time I've been so hopeful about this conclave was learning more and more about Cardinal Pizzaballo.
00:11:45.500 Yeah.
00:11:45.920 I'll know he's being talked about.
00:11:47.540 Makes sense.
00:11:48.120 There was an article, when this airs, it'll be a couple days ago, in Washington Post, of all things,
00:11:54.340 about the possible popes.
00:11:58.320 And whose picture's up front?
00:11:59.800 Pizzaballo's.
00:12:00.440 Yeah.
00:12:00.580 Because it's the popes from war zones where they are showing heroism.
00:12:06.340 Yes.
00:12:06.680 The whole church is a war zone, and yet there he is.
00:12:10.180 And if it fits with what you said about Peter the Roman, and his name is Peter the Baptist.
00:12:14.640 You couldn't make that up.
00:12:15.600 No, there's no way you could make that up.
00:12:18.100 As he's in the Holy Land, I mean, it's just like, wow.
00:12:21.180 But the first time in this conclave, I'm hopeful.
00:12:26.520 That's something.
00:12:27.260 Because I was actually rooting for a Cardinal Sarah for a bit.
00:12:31.700 Yeah.
00:12:32.200 Because you'd figure, because there's some human element, too.
00:12:35.820 And he's a black guy.
00:12:36.960 He makes even the other Africans look like, you know. 1.00
00:12:42.020 And so there's something there.
00:12:43.880 To have, in a culture where racism was a thing, to have a black pope is a statement 1.00
00:12:50.940 that would shut up, silence some of the criticism against the church, even though it's in name anyway.
00:12:58.640 But nonetheless, it's there.
00:13:00.720 And yet, he is so orthodox.
00:13:02.880 So there was some hope for Cardinal Sarah, but I knew Cardinal Sarah's an old man.
00:13:07.500 He's 70 years old.
00:13:08.300 In fact, had Bergoglio lasted another month or two, Cardinal Sarah wouldn't have even been a contender.
00:13:13.940 Right.
00:13:14.260 He wouldn't be in the conclave.
00:13:15.220 Right.
00:13:15.880 So our Lord put him in there anyway.
00:13:18.500 But this Cardinal Fitzabella...
00:13:20.840 You mean, what are you telling me?
00:13:22.500 That our Lord smote...
00:13:24.440 I know.
00:13:25.560 Why, no?
00:13:26.120 Bergoglio in the nick of time.
00:13:27.380 It's our Lord's decision, not anybody else's.
00:13:29.900 Yeah.
00:13:30.400 I always say that about RBG, Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
00:13:33.360 Our Lord smote her in the nick of time.
00:13:35.320 Because just, if it had been a week later, Trump would not have been able to appoint one more pro-life.
00:13:41.200 It's absolutely the Lord's.
00:13:42.740 Life and death is the Lord's.
00:13:43.980 Yes.
00:13:44.200 And so we're, in a way, and that's hard to say when there's, like, the case of the family of eight whose husband died.
00:13:53.940 Hard to say.
00:13:54.540 But glory be to God when we're taken out.
00:13:57.520 And there's a very famous Catholic prayer where you accept and thank God for your death, whatever it is.
00:14:06.580 The time of death.
00:14:07.420 Right.
00:14:07.940 He's very Catholic.
00:14:08.740 Stolen from us also.
00:14:10.080 Yeah.
00:14:10.560 Yeah.
00:14:10.700 But that's what I mean, in terms of things that were stolen, which is all these saints.
00:14:15.620 So even apart from the debate over the mass, which is big by itself.
00:14:19.280 Yeah.
00:14:19.620 But a lot of people think, eh, you know, whatever.
00:14:21.680 But even apart from that, I think there's a general acceptance of all Orthodox Catholics that it was really wrong and nasty to take away all these saints.
00:14:32.440 Clopas is huge and Simeon.
00:14:35.780 But let's talk about Philomena for a second.
00:14:37.400 Because St. Phil is mind-blowing.
00:14:41.360 Certain saints, like Corey Dars, huge wonder worker, miracle worker, attributes all his miracles to the intercession of St. Philomena.
00:14:52.180 And yet, she doesn't exist on the new calendar.
00:14:56.320 Right.
00:14:56.540 But I think for all Catholics of goodwill who love Christ and his church, whether they're Novus Ordo or TLM Catholics, whatever, they're all like, that was wrong. 0.99
00:15:07.640 Yeah.
00:15:07.920 Right.
00:15:08.680 That was wrong.
00:15:09.640 Yeah.
00:15:10.280 So it is.
00:15:10.940 It's really a need to get that back.
00:15:15.200 Yeah.
00:15:15.340 We can't have that stolen from us and keep stolen.
00:15:17.440 We need reparations.
00:15:19.200 Yeah.
00:15:19.400 Proper reparations.
00:15:20.080 Oh, my gosh.
00:15:20.880 Yeah.
00:15:21.160 And if we don't do them ourselves, our Lord is going to give us a situation where we're going to be forced to do our reparation in disaster, through some disaster.
00:15:32.660 He always lets us.
00:15:34.080 It's always been the case throughout salvation history.
00:15:36.180 We lose that faithfulness.
00:15:38.000 We lose our prayer life, our attempt to offer ourselves in prayer, fasting, and alumsgiving to make reparation for the sinners that are out there.
00:15:48.160 When we quit doing that, well, bad things happen and we're forced to our knees.
00:15:52.400 St. John Hughes.
00:15:53.580 Yes.
00:15:54.780 He talks about how when our Lord is truly angry.
00:15:58.080 Yes.
00:15:58.600 He shows his ultimate displeasure with men when he sends us pastors who are more wolves than shepherds.
00:16:07.340 That's exactly right.
00:16:08.440 That is exactly what he said.
00:16:10.060 I know a lot of people will be saying, no, you know, we've had worse popes in the past.
00:16:14.060 And they were all sorts of...
00:16:15.580 And in some ways, you don't care what they were.
00:16:18.400 Their personal lives, whether they had concubines or children or homosexual, God forbid, whatever it was.
00:16:24.020 Yeah.
00:16:24.520 They killed people.
00:16:25.920 Yeah.
00:16:26.180 It didn't matter compared to the altering of faith, which literally leads people to hell. 0.77
00:16:31.880 And so we have this pastor in, I think, most people's opinion, the supreme pastor, be a wolf like we've never had before.
00:16:42.220 We've always had sinners.
00:16:43.580 You know what?
00:16:44.040 We're always going to have sinners.
00:16:45.220 You and I are sinners.
00:16:46.140 We're all sinners.
00:16:47.060 So I don't get upset about the fact that somebody is a sinner. 1.00
00:16:49.700 I would prefer they repent, which we never saw with Bergoglio.
00:16:53.280 The difference between Bergoglio and every other bad pope, bad sinner, is that Bergoglio altered the faith.
00:17:01.940 He actually was a raging heretic in more ways than I can count. 0.62
00:17:06.380 He was an absolute apostate of the Catholic Church.
00:17:09.220 And if I just cited two examples, bringing Pachamama, the idol, into the pudding before St. Peter's altar, and then having that little worship service in the back where they're all bawling down to it as he sits there.
00:17:22.580 He did something similar to that in Canada.
00:17:24.780 He did.
00:17:25.260 Remember?
00:17:25.500 With that, oh, my gosh.
00:17:27.380 But also, when he signed the Abu Dhabi Agreement, saying God wills a plurality of religions.
00:17:32.540 And I say, you know, look at Jesus on the crucifix.
00:17:35.560 Look at the blood dripping from his hands and his side.
00:17:38.040 And you tell me, our Father in heaven willed a plurality.
00:17:41.120 And he doubled down on it, of course, when he said, oh, all these religions are the same voice of God.
00:17:46.840 They all lead you to God.
00:17:48.840 Tell that to Jesus on Good Friday.
00:17:51.140 Stand before the cross and say, well, why did you?
00:17:53.740 Because really what he's slapping, he's slapping Jesus in the face again, just like the guards did.
00:17:57.960 Like, what are you doing that for?
00:17:59.560 Yeah.
00:18:00.220 And even if they make the argument, there are people who make the argument, oh, no, Jesus paid for everything, so it actually doesn't matter.
00:18:05.580 Hell's empty anyway.
00:18:06.660 Yeah.
00:18:06.960 So his grace will apply anyway.
00:18:09.600 Yeah.
00:18:10.160 But then you're making fun of all the martyrs.
00:18:12.620 Yeah.
00:18:12.960 Who all gave their lives so not to even throw a pinch of incense.
00:18:16.320 Right.
00:18:16.540 They couldn't, like, I'm just going to fake it and lie.
00:18:18.280 Yeah.
00:18:18.760 Right.
00:18:18.960 No.
00:18:19.420 No.
00:18:20.420 They died.
00:18:21.320 Oh, fed to the lions.
00:18:22.480 Burned his torches.
00:18:23.400 You know, every possible man can be very inhuman to other humans.
00:18:28.720 Absolutely.
00:18:29.540 And none more so than the Mohammedans, than the Islamics, who were the ones who did a lot of that really horrific torture for whom many, many, many martyrs died. 1.00
00:18:40.140 Yeah.
00:18:40.880 And yet, they were one of the ones named, because Francis did this in front of the TV cameras, and he talked about to an imam as well as other Buddhists and so on.
00:18:49.560 Right.
00:18:50.260 They're all the same.
00:18:51.460 Yeah.
00:18:51.640 And they're all passing on, and the translator is just translating, and he's a priest or something, and I'm thinking, how, how?
00:18:58.060 This is out loud.
00:18:59.060 This is not.
00:18:59.660 And he's translating into English.
00:19:00.900 Yeah.
00:19:01.240 Crying out loud.
00:19:01.620 So there's no covering it up.
00:19:02.780 Right.
00:19:03.960 And there's silence.
00:19:06.260 And silence amongst all the people who look at that, any Catholic who knows anything about their faith would look at that and say, well, that's just not right.
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00:19:45.340 But the people who can say something about it, who should say something about it, who have an absolute duty for Almighty God Himself to say something about it, are the bishops and the cardinals.
00:19:54.020 And they remain silent, except for the only one, Strickland.
00:19:57.180 Well, you've got the dubious cardinals who ask questions. 1.00
00:19:59.500 But Strickland was by far of the half a dozen or so that spoke up, Strickland.
00:20:03.760 And he said, the angels are going to heap wrinkles on your heads, bishops, because he's an apostate.
00:20:09.920 You're not saying anything.
00:20:10.940 He's no longer teaching the Catholic faith.
00:20:12.780 He actually said it out there in the open.
00:20:14.840 With John Eudes' warning, and us just having come through, in those terms anyway, the worst possible papacy in the history of the church.
00:20:25.980 In the history of the church.
00:20:26.880 The worst in the entire history.
00:20:28.700 And then, this is also why I'm hopeful that even though we don't deserve it at all, but if God saved His ire, and if the ire really is that give you a bad pastor, that was the ultimate bad pastor so far.
00:20:44.200 And then He says in the end, because you are unfaithful shepherds, Ecclesiastes, right?
00:20:48.800 I will shepherd my people.
00:20:50.600 I will give you a shepherd after my own heart.
00:20:53.380 Yes.
00:20:54.040 Not because we deserve it.
00:20:55.300 Right.
00:20:55.560 But because of the glory of His name.
00:20:57.300 And He still loves us so much.
00:20:59.260 And also, right before His crucifixion, He brought Peter, James, and John up the mountain to show them the transfiguration.
00:21:09.120 Yes.
00:21:09.440 Because He knew that without that, they wouldn't survive what was coming.
00:21:13.320 Right, right.
00:21:14.000 They wouldn't survive the death of Him.
00:21:18.660 Right.
00:21:18.860 Now, His mystical body needs a transfiguration, the members, the members need a transfiguration experience before the ultimate comes, before the church really dies.
00:21:32.600 Right.
00:21:32.700 Because the mystical body will follow its head into what seems like a death.
00:21:36.840 Mm-hmm.
00:21:37.440 And it's right in the Catechism 675.
00:21:39.680 Yep.
00:21:40.580 Yeah.
00:21:40.740 And so, wouldn't it be amazing to have a Peter the Roman lead us into the party?
00:21:48.000 And I wouldn't be surprised to see another, an antipope of some kind at the same time. 0.99
00:21:51.940 Yeah.
00:21:52.520 Who would be the false prophet, who would, in the end, will point to Antichrist as if he is the Messiah.
00:21:58.080 Mm-hmm.
00:21:59.000 So, I don't know.
00:22:00.680 I'm hopeful, and being hopeful is kind of weird, but I'm always going to be hopeful.
00:22:04.180 Yeah.
00:22:04.540 So, Father, final thoughts from you, and then conclude with us with a prayer.
00:22:09.720 Sure.
00:22:09.960 No matter what happens, there's going to be, if it's Pizza Bella, I'm pronouncing that
00:22:17.180 correctly, we're going to rejoice.
00:22:19.580 We're going to say, yeah, we've got a good guy that actually is Catholic.
00:22:23.580 Those who are within the church, especially in the hierarchy, who are anti-Catholic, are
00:22:29.540 going to, they've already schismed away.
00:22:31.380 There's a de facto schism in the church, but it's going to be absolutely more out in the
00:22:35.660 open than it has been.
00:22:37.120 If we get another bad one, if that's what actually comes out of the conclave starting
00:22:43.580 on the 7th, then the schism is going to happen that way, too, because faithful Catholics are
00:22:48.400 going to stay faithful.
00:22:49.400 And again, these have schismed away.
00:22:51.340 So I don't want to sound pessimistic, but I just see whether it's whoever gets chosen, the
00:22:58.480 line is going to be bright, and there's going to be a division that's inescapable.
00:23:02.640 It's going to be sheeps and goats.
00:23:04.000 Sheep and goats.
00:23:04.680 And so I'm hoping that the next one would be a piece of Allah, because we just want a 1.00
00:23:12.960 Holy Father, don't we?
00:23:14.240 Yeah.
00:23:14.620 An observation made yesterday by some of our great friends in the Catholic world that when
00:23:20.860 Pope St. John Paul II died, devastation and mourning.
00:23:25.980 I still mourn him.
00:23:26.740 I was just at his boyhood home and his boyhood church about two, three weeks ago, and this
00:23:34.800 welling up within you of the grace and the glory of God's servant on earth was profound.
00:23:42.160 There was so much mourning that days after, nights, they would go through the whole night
00:23:47.060 praying, singing, chanting.
00:23:50.240 In the streets of Rome, it was ridiculous.
00:23:51.920 He couldn't go to sleep because of the chanting outside.
00:23:53.800 We were talking to somebody, I won't say his name, but he had to change his hotel room
00:23:56.380 because he needed sleep, and he couldn't because there was so much praying and singing
00:23:59.920 and glory, right?
00:24:01.840 Now contrast that with Bergoglio.
00:24:04.140 There's no mourning.
00:24:04.900 People don't even care.
00:24:05.740 He's gone.
00:24:06.660 Okay, on to the next.
00:24:08.040 There was no love and affection for Bergoglio, who pretended to be, oh, this merciful, merciful,
00:24:13.620 and he wasn't.
00:24:14.200 He wasn't merciful at all.
00:24:15.180 He was very tyranny.
00:24:17.500 Moira Noonan.
00:24:18.320 Yeah.
00:24:18.760 There's dry-eyed mourning.
00:24:20.360 Yeah, dry-eyed mourning.
00:24:21.780 Exactly.
00:24:22.160 So let us hope for another one who will inspire us to be full of grace like Pope St. John
00:24:28.620 Paul II did.
00:24:30.160 I think that's what all faithful Catholics truly want.
00:24:34.000 Yeah, so let's hope for that.
00:24:35.560 Let's pray for that.
00:24:36.400 Amen.
00:24:38.280 All right.
00:24:39.080 Shall we pray?
00:24:39.680 No many potries that feed the Spirit to Son to him.
00:24:42.240 And Heavenly Father, when you sent your Son to live among us, to show us the one way, the one truth, the one life, there came this time when he needed a little rest himself, and he went off in a boat, and when he got to the other side of the lake, all the people had followed around him.
00:25:01.340 And he looked out at them, and this is what he said, his heart was full of compassion for them, because they were like sheep without a shepherd.
00:25:09.760 Heavenly Father, look down on us now, recognize our hearts are longing for a true shepherd again.
00:25:14.620 And bless us with such a shepherd after your own heart, who will lead your church, your one holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, and lead all souls to you.
00:25:25.960 And we ask for this grace, this blessing from heaven, and nomine patria, sepilio, spiritu santi.
00:25:31.180 Amen.
00:25:31.720 Amen.
00:25:32.020 Thank you, Father.
00:25:34.220 John Henry, as always, as always, my friends.
00:25:37.340 Gosh, yeah.
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