The King's Hall - America for Americans： Why Unfettered Immigration, a Globalist Economy, and the H-1B Are Destroying Our Nation

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00:00:56.600 What picture in the American mind better encapsulates feelings of nostalgia,

00:01:18.400 patriotism, or longing for a place than small-town America?

00:01:22.980 A part of our spirit is stirred when we see historic photographs of a simpler time

00:01:27.700 or when we see a film like It's a Wonderful Life.

00:01:31.140 Set against the backdrop of massively populated urban centers filled with faces we don't know,

00:01:36.120 the small rural community reminds us of Mayberry, familiarity, and a deeply shared common good.

00:01:43.840 In these scenes, children often litter the streets with shouts of play,

00:01:47.560 and the average citizen walking the sidewalks has a timeless class in their style of dress and

00:01:53.160 posture. Despite the plight of small-town America since the economic downturn of 2009,

00:01:59.360 and for many decades before that too, the small-town vibe holds a special part in the

00:02:04.280 American soul. The sense of belonging and appreciation towards small-town America

00:02:09.380 is also widespread in other forms of art. As Jason Aldean recently demonstrated in his song

00:02:15.660 Try That in a Small Town, even the politics of small towns are vastly different than

00:02:20.240 left-leaning, childless blue cities. These small local places dot the map of America's heartland,

00:02:27.360 connecting two left coasts, and trying to preserve whatever is left of a more traditional way of

00:02:32.700 life. Tracy Bird captures these emotions in his song, I'm from the country, with the following

00:02:38.520 chorus. Everybody knows everybody. Everybody calls you friend. You don't need an invitation.

00:02:44.220 Oh, kick off your shoes. Come on in. Yeah, we know how to work and we know how to play.

00:02:49.620 We're from the country and we like it that way. Chippewa Falls is the quintessential picture of

00:02:55.000 small-town America, rich with history and nostalgia. One Chippewa Falls resident was

00:03:00.240 even awarded the Medal of Honor for his bravery in battle during World War II.

00:03:04.660 The town was built on the banks of the Chippewa River in west-central Wisconsin

00:03:08.340 due to the proximity to the largest stand of white pine in the upper Midwest.

00:03:13.220 The Chippewa Lumber and Boom Company built the largest sawmill under one roof in the world.

00:03:18.920 Support of the logging industry brought other manufacturing, including new flour mills, a woolen mill, cigar factories, multiple shoe factories, and a broom factory.

00:03:28.640 Many of these businesses have since closed their doors, but one has remained.

00:03:32.740 The business that evokes the most pride in the residents of Chippewa Falls is the Jacob Leinenkugel Brewing Co.

00:03:39.360 You would probably recognize the canoe was scrolling red letters on a bottle of Summer Shandy or Honey Weiss, the company's most popular brews.

00:03:48.300 Jacob Leinenkugel immigrated to the area from Germany and opened the brewery in 1867, making Leinenkugel Brewing the seventh oldest brewery in the United States.

00:03:58.980 He found many thirsty lumberjacks and began brewing his family beer.

00:04:03.960 Surviving the changing economy, wars, and even prohibition,

00:04:07.940 Lainey's, as locals call them,

00:04:09.700 continued to brew beer in small township Wafalls for six generations.

00:04:14.200 Unfortunately, they decided to sell the family brewery in 1988 to Miller Brewing Company.

00:04:20.160 And through the typical charade of corporate musical chairs,

00:04:23.360 the company is now owned by Molson Coors.

00:04:27.160 Despite the sale, the Lainey & Kugel family operated somewhat independently of its bigger corporate owners.

00:04:33.040 Dick Leinenkugel, one of the owners of the brewery, spoke about the nature of their relationship with Molson.

00:04:38.680 He said, quote, the dynamic changes over time and certainly with leadership and the strategy of the company.

00:04:45.060 In the early years, Leinenkugel Brewing Company was afforded a bit more freedom as it was not material to their parent company, end quote.

00:04:53.400 In an interview in 2013 with CNN Business, Jake and Dick Leinenkugel were asked how the ownership of Molson Coors has changed or not changed Leinenkugel Brewing as a business and as a brand.

00:05:06.680 This was their response.

00:05:08.260 Looking back over 25 years, has it been the right thing for us to do? No question.

00:05:13.620 We've had three different expansions of our brewery.

00:05:16.640 We've had a new brew house that we never would have had the opportunity to spend that amount of money.

00:05:22.520 The quality of beers has been getting so much better because of that.

00:05:28.140 The investment in a 400 distributor, national market presence, great branding, marketing people.

00:05:36.660 The media areas that we never had access with advertising our product and our name were wide open for us.

00:05:44.940 So I look back, and over the 25-year period, it's been a start of a new generation of Lining Krugels

00:05:52.060 being able to come in, run, manage the business, report back to a larger brewery entity,

00:05:59.000 ask for more things to grow our brands in the right way,

00:06:02.300 and also, is it smart to keep the family in play as far as leading the company?

00:06:07.500 And I think that the smartest thing Miller, now Miller Coors, is doing is saying

00:06:12.000 that a Leinenkugel should be running that or Leinenkugel's involved in the business

00:06:16.480 because it's authentic, they love beer, they're smart,

00:06:21.060 and they want to continue to grow these brands within a larger brewing company.

00:06:26.540 Yeah, and I think one of the things, obviously a lot of changes,

00:06:29.660 and Jake talked about some of those,

00:06:31.320 but what really hasn't changed is that family guidance,

00:06:34.260 that family management of the business.

00:06:36.340 And importantly, the brewing team.

00:06:38.320 The same brewmaster that was there in 1988 is the same guy that's in the seat today, John Burrow in Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin, producing award-winning quality beers.

00:06:49.040 While respecting the brewery's history and family legacy may have been important to Molson Coors in the early years, a recent announcement seems to have changed those thoughts.

00:06:58.920 An iconic brewery is closing in western Wisconsin.

00:07:01.760 Tough news. Linenkugel's brewery parent company, Molson Coors, says the production of the Wisconsin beer brand will be centralized now in Milwaukee.

00:07:11.160 While the drinks will not disappear, it is still a big hit to the Chippewa Falls community.

00:07:16.980 It is. Jay Coles was there today to hear from workers and families who are still coming to terms with the news.

00:07:23.940 Linenkugel's brewery is the city of Chippewa Falls, and in turn, Chippewa Falls is the brewery.

00:07:30.680 That connection between the brewery and its employees and neighbors has existed for 157 years.

00:07:37.720 It's really tragic. I mean, it's tragic for our family, for the community.

00:07:41.300 I mean, we've grown up with Leinenkugels and Chippewa community. 0.99

00:07:44.880 You think about community, you think about Leinenkugels.

00:07:47.080 Tragic for Rose Byers' family because she says her husband has worked in the brewery for 30 years

00:07:52.900 and they were told that will end in January.

00:07:55.920 30 years is a long time growing up with Leinenkugels, owning the brewery, getting to know them as a family, getting to know all the people that work here as a family.

00:08:06.380 It's pretty tough.

00:08:07.540 Beyer says the parent company of Leinenkugels, Molson Coors, told employees about the closure Wednesday without specific reasons why.

00:08:15.580 According to the Molson Coors website, the location employs 120 people, and the shock is still setting in.

00:08:23.000 You know, Leinenkugel's, the brand, the name, the beer, the everything, it's just, it's Chippewa Falls.

00:08:30.220 The former president of the Jacob Leinenkugel Brewing Company, Dick Leinenkugel, was shocked by the brewery closure, stating that he was, quote, deeply saddened by the decision.

00:08:40.420 For over 157 years and six generations of family management, Leinenkugel's has been brewing great beers for our legions of fans throughout Wisconsin and across the country.

00:08:51.080 None of our family members were aware or counseled ahead of the decision, end quote.

00:08:56.660 Molson Coors reported declining beer sales in its August earning calls, with brand volumes

00:09:02.120 declining 7.3% in its last quarter.

00:09:05.520 CEO Gavin Hattersley told investors the company would make moves to cut costs in order to

00:09:11.000 offset the slump.

00:09:12.600 At this point in history, the boom and bust story of small-town America is almost cliche.

00:09:18.900 Many towns were built around the virtues of Anglo-Protestant ingenuity, hard work, and courage.

00:09:25.180 Natural feelings of kinship, community, and place were the glue that bonded people together.

00:09:30.460 However, something has changed in American culture since at least the 1950s.

00:09:35.320 Many things have caused these changes, such as the deracination that followed in the wake of two world wars,

00:09:41.020 the sudden influx of investment dollars into publicly traded companies, and a globalist view of economics.

00:09:48.040 The first evolution of the modern global economy was the gutting of small towns

00:09:52.660 in favor of much larger and more profitable multinational corporations.

00:09:57.680 When large corporations consumed small businesses,

00:10:01.120 their insatiable greed led to a desire to increase profitability

00:10:05.060 no matter the effects on the people and places that depended on those economic engines.

00:10:11.020 Unlike local businesses that employ people in the community they know and go to church with,

00:10:15.680 that their kids play baseball with,

00:10:18.040 The work is centralized and disconnected from real people with faces.

00:10:22.620 A corporate financial analyst looks at quarterly sales drops of 7%

00:10:27.120 and concludes that consolidation of manufacturing would compensate.

00:10:31.220 With that simple calculation fixed on a bottom line,

00:10:34.180 and without anyone to look in the eye,

00:10:37.020 dozens or hundreds or thousands of people lose their jobs in a small community.

00:10:42.380 The responsibilities that business owners and employees typically share in a community

00:10:46.980 are distant and foreign, sometimes literally,

00:10:50.020 in a corporation that can span different states

00:10:52.060 and even multiple countries.

00:10:54.420 Faces, names, wives, children, goals, dreams, and loves

00:10:59.420 all become a line on a balance sheet

00:11:01.840 titled payroll expenses.

00:11:04.480 Some of these corporate giants

00:11:05.700 even have good intentions in the beginning.

00:11:07.620 For example, Steve Jobs famously insisted

00:11:10.640 that Apple products should be manufactured

00:11:12.740 in the United States.

00:11:14.500 In her book, Boomers,

00:11:15.500 Helen Andrews wrote the following, quote, Jobs insisted that the Macintosh computer be built in

00:11:21.840 America and the operations team complied, building a factory in Fremont, California, in the East Bay.

00:11:28.300 When investors in Next pressured Jobs to outsource manufacturing to Asia, he refused. Even when Ross

00:11:34.560 Perot resigned from the board in protest, he refused. There were benefits to having your

00:11:38.960 engineers and your factories in geographic proximity, Jobs firmly believed, and cheese

00:11:44.800 pairing wasn't necessary because his products didn't compete on price, end quote. By all

00:11:50.520 accounts, Steve Jobs was an idealist. He disdained utilitarian calculations when making business

00:11:56.940 decisions and highly valued innovation. He famously refused to consider market studies for

00:12:02.600 Apple products, believing that data was no substitute for the right stroke of human intuition.

00:12:08.840 Tim Cook, however, changed the trajectory of Apple's innovation and manufacturing.

00:12:14.480 Jobs hired Cook because he knew the data-driven man would take care of the portions of the business that Jobs found boring.

00:12:21.040 We must thank or blame Steve Jobs for the technocratic evolution of the world due to his foresight and obsessive desire to create new tech.

00:12:30.020 The villain Jobs may be, but where his reserved and unimaginative successor has failed to continue innovating,

00:12:37.720 Cook did affect a revolution of sorts within Apple.

00:12:40.040 Cook could not match Jobs' product innovation, but he could make Apple more profitable by other means.

00:12:47.000 To do so, he cultivated a relationship with the notorious Taiwanese tech manufacturing company, Foxconn.

00:12:54.460 The company has received abundant criticism for its poor working conditions, workers' riots, explosions, toxic chemical exposure, and shockingly low wages.

00:13:05.780 Instead of manufacturing Apple products in the United States,

00:13:09.240 hundreds of thousands of jobs were given to China

00:13:11.840 because of that pesky line item, payroll expenses.

00:13:16.220 Again, with the same globalist and corporate greed

00:13:19.560 and indifference to any local people or place,

00:13:22.740 Apple squeezes the workers for the lowest cost

00:13:25.420 to increase profitability.

00:13:27.440 And so under Cook's direction,

00:13:29.260 Apple became the model company,

00:13:30.900 no longer for its innovation,

00:13:32.620 but for its corporate profit and shareholder value.

00:13:36.260 Many other Silicon Valley technology companies have mimicked this model.

00:13:40.680 Employees in the U.S. are forced to wear 90 hours a week and loving it t-shirts to work,

00:13:45.620 while overseas companies crank out electronic goods at minimal cost.

00:13:50.180 But what happens when you've outsourced all the jobs you can outsource?

00:13:53.940 What happens when you have streamlined every process that you can streamline?

00:13:57.780 How do you keep increasing your bottom line or dividend value then?

00:14:02.620 Well, glad you asked, because next, Apple took a new approach.

00:14:06.280 What was it? 0.99

00:14:07.440 Replacing American jobs with H-1B employees.

00:14:10.760 In fact, as of 2023, Apple was approved for nearly 3,000 H-1B visas. 0.60

00:14:16.520 An H-1B visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows foreign professionals to work in the

00:14:22.640 United States for a temporary period.

00:14:25.060 Tech companies, including Apple, with the eighth most H-1B employees, operate under

00:14:30.620 the public claims that there are Einsteins in India, China, and other places around the world,

00:14:36.600 and we need to use them. For what it's worth today, and despite Jobs' earlier idealism,

00:14:41.900 Apple directly employs 164,000 people around the globe, and fewer than half of those employees

00:14:48.760 work in the United States. Apple has 3,833 H-1B employees, or around 5% of their USA workforce,

00:14:57.280 along with 1,415 green card employees.

00:15:01.220 Apple employs Korean companies, Foxconn and Pegatron, for manufacturing.

00:15:06.200 Estimates for employees designed to manufacture Apple products in China

00:15:09.660 are somewhere north of 350,000.

00:15:13.360 These Chinese employees can produce 500,000 iPhones per day.

00:15:17.800 This means that Apple can cheaply manufacture a product with foreign labor, 0.91

00:15:22.060 charge Americans a small fortune for it, 1.00

00:15:24.180 and simultaneously replace those same Americans 0.82

00:15:26.920 on the factory floor. These are the kind of globalist policies that could only come about

00:15:32.200 when you don't have to look people in the eye after you've shipped their job and means of survival

00:15:37.060 off to a foreign country. It is an economy not for neighbors, but for robots, shareholders,

00:15:44.080 and serfs. While the banks all closed in Bedford Falls, George Bailey kept the building and loan

00:15:50.100 open. But why? Because he knew every face personally. The H-1B program was intended,

00:15:57.920 or so its public defenders say, to attract the best and brightest people from all over the world

00:16:02.800 to support American companies. America is, after all, the land of opportunity. And perhaps in the

00:16:08.820 slums of India, there's a genius with a PhD in electromagnetism sitting on piles of research and 0.98

00:16:15.200 world-changing inventions in a place where no one cares about anything beyond Bollywood. 0.97

00:16:20.100 As it turns out, the H-1B program made headlines again this past December after Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy took to X to signal the need for more H-1B visas.

00:16:32.660 Many on the right resisted, which took Musk seemingly by surprise.

00:16:37.760 As David Green wrote on his substack shortly after the dustup,

00:16:40.860 The real issue is that the Silicon Valley oligarchy may have helped Trump get elected, but they are hardly in touch with the base of working class American sentiment.

00:16:50.960 The backlash suggests just how out of touch the new techno elite really is on some of these things.

00:16:57.140 Here's the Vivek tweet.

00:16:58.360 quote the reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers over

00:17:04.740 native americans isn't because of an innate american iq deficit a lazy and wrong explanation

00:17:11.460 a key part of it comes down to the c word culture tough questions demand tough answers and if we're

00:17:18.520 really serious about fixing the problem we have to confront the truth our american culture has

00:17:24.220 venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long at least since the 90s and likely longer

00:17:29.760 that doesn't start in college it starts young a culture that celebrates the prom queen over the

00:17:35.540 math olympiad champ or the jock over the valedictorian will not produce the best engineers

00:17:41.100 a culture that venerates cory from boy meets world or zach and slater over screech in saved by the

00:17:47.020 bell or stefan over steve urkel in family matters will not produce the best engineers fact i know

00:17:54.200 multiple sets of immigrant parents in the 90s who actively limited how much their kids could watch 0.54

00:17:59.720 those TV shows precisely because they promoted mediocrity, and their kids went on to become 0.95

00:18:05.680 wildly successful STEM graduates. More movies like Whiplash, fewer reruns of Friends, more math

00:18:12.420 tutoring, fewer sleepovers, more weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons,

00:18:18.300 more books less tv more creating less chilling more extracurriculars less hanging out at the

00:18:25.100 mall most normal american parents look skeptically at those kinds of parents more normal american

00:18:31.220 kids view such those kind of kids with scorn if you grow up aspiring to normalcy normalcy is what

00:18:38.100 you will achieve now close your eyes and visualize which families you knew in the 90s or even now

00:18:43.020 who raise their kids according to one model versus the other.

00:18:46.740 Be brutally honest.

00:18:48.300 Normalcy doesn't cut it in a hyper-competitive global market for technical talent. 0.98

00:18:53.460 And if we pretend like it does, we'll have our asses handed to us by China. 0.96

00:18:58.180 This can be our Sputnik moment. 0.98

00:19:00.060 We've awakened from slumber before, and we can do it again.

00:19:03.100 Trump's election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America,

00:19:06.860 but only if our culture fully wakes up.

00:19:09.080 A culture that once again prioritizes achievement over normalcy

00:19:12.880 excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity, hard work over laziness.

00:19:18.720 That's the work we have cut out for us, rather than wallowing in victimhood and just wishing for

00:19:23.620 or legislating alternative hiring practices into existence. I'm confident we can do it."

00:19:29.460 Among other things, Vivek's tweet demonstrates what the left would call racism,

00:19:34.740 only this time it's directed at Native whites. According to him, the reason Americans are having

00:19:40.260 economic trouble is because everyone is, to put it simply, lazy and incompetent. Here is a man 0.99

00:19:46.340 claiming to be American who hates everything that America once was and is supposed to be.

00:19:52.500 He does not share the Anglo-Protestant values of hard work within a community of kin and people

00:19:57.760 in place, all bound together with Christian love. It's worth noting that Vivek, for all his talk,

00:20:03.940 has never invented anything. He's simply a glitzy fundraiser. He has no expertise in software

00:20:09.360 engineering or in silicon valley other than chumming it up with the uber wealthy green

00:20:14.240 writes quote what was wrong with vivek's tweet well to start vivek sought to blame americans

00:20:19.620 for what was done to them by their government it was also supremely condescending but more to the

00:20:24.900 point vivek's words were impossible to divorce from the anti-white racial angle of the rest of

00:20:30.960 the online discourse not least because he implicitly brought race into it there was even

00:20:35.880 the sort of pseudo-sexual component in Vivek's tweet that could be felt in his expressed bitterness

00:20:41.080 against the football stars who dated the prom queen. The jokes write themselves, but it got

00:20:46.180 worse. Substantively, the steel man of Vivek's idea was nonsense. The notion America needed more

00:20:53.520 nerds who didn't play sports or have fun did not stand up to 10 minutes of considered thought.

00:20:58.920 At its height, Western countries always had leaders with both the qualities of the sportsman

00:21:04.080 and the nerd. The warrior scholar was always the Faustian ideal. America had only recently become

00:21:11.260 comfortable with the idea of pure technocratic rulers and the supremacy of the nerd, and this

00:21:17.880 over-specialization directly corresponded with society's decline. The idea that the key to

00:21:24.380 success in the 21st century was just grinding tech knowledge harder and going full tiger mother 0.94

00:21:30.160 on American kids was ridiculous. 0.98

00:21:33.100 After all, that's what South Korea did. 0.93

00:21:35.420 And how did it work out for them? 0.78

00:21:37.460 The Vivek tweet put the cherry on top of the H-1B Sunday

00:21:40.660 by highlighting almost all of the misconceptions

00:21:43.500 of our ruling class

00:21:44.960 and how they still couldn't quite see the problems

00:21:47.780 right under their noses.

00:21:49.360 This was very cathartic, but what did we actually learn?

00:21:53.160 What does this mean for the future of politics?

00:21:55.980 Well, the first thing that I think we have learned

00:21:57.900 is just the nature of the vibe shift

00:22:00.140 that we have been experiencing

00:22:01.880 over the last several years.

00:22:03.820 The standard political categories

00:22:05.440 that we have grown up with

00:22:06.580 don't make sense anymore,

00:22:08.200 which was readily apparent

00:22:09.560 if one observed the H-1B controversy

00:22:12.680 play out in real time, end quote.

00:22:15.720 Green is right to notice the vibe shift,

00:22:18.140 which seems to include, among other things,

00:22:19.920 the recognition that Americans are tired

00:22:22.540 of being replaced by low-skilled foreigners 1.00

00:22:25.280 who will apparently work endless hours 1.00

00:22:27.820 without complaint. Green's article, Adventures in H-1B Human Capital, also offers insight into

00:22:34.420 the failures of this controversial visa program and dispels many of the myths from this early

00:22:40.240 90s program. First of all, the H-1B doesn't actually go to geniuses. There is in fact a

00:22:46.280 different visa application for such instances. It's called the O-1 visa for individuals with

00:22:52.280 exceptional abilities. What the H-1B actually does is import low-cost labor to replace low- to

00:22:58.980 mid-level jobs, thus taking them away from Americans. Green writes, quote, it was easy to

00:23:04.540 verify through public data that H-1B visas were commonly granted to workers in mid-tier entry-level

00:23:10.920 positions, the very jobs that middle-class Americans felt locked out of. The only benefit

00:23:16.660 was that the foreign employees worked for less money. Musk and his friends also didn't realize

00:23:21.940 that Americans in 2024 had much more experience with these kinds of immigrants, primarily from

00:23:27.560 India, and their experience was not positive. This is an easy oversight for people with brains

00:23:33.640 stuck in the 1990s when a point-based system was the holy grail of immigration policy. But we tried

00:23:40.140 the point system, at least in Canada, and the results were not stellar. Far from getting a new

00:23:45.420 tech elite, the country was just flooded with mid-skilled, pushy immigrants whose economic 1.00

00:23:50.880 benefit was swamped by their catastrophic impact on the housing market and social services. And 1.00

00:23:57.140 needless to say, these immigrants did not assimilate into a Canadian culture, although

00:24:02.100 often their cultural deracination would be presented as assimilation by the ruling elite.

00:24:08.060 You cannot go anywhere in Canada without seeing the native population actively displaced by

00:24:13.460 newcomers supposedly brought in on the basis of merit and doing otherwise middle-class jobs.

00:24:19.840 And for some reason, despite all of this high-skilled immigration, Canada didn't become the new Silicon Valley.

00:24:26.800 I guess the new immigrants didn't have any Einsteins among them. 0.99

00:24:30.080 Maybe we just need to import more people. 0.99

00:24:32.780 Maybe, as Sam High joked, we can import everyone in the entire world into America,

00:24:37.540 and then we would be guaranteed to have the next Einstein, assuming that this age has an Einstein to produce.

00:24:44.140 end quote. At its very core, the H-1B program is an extension of the Gramsian Marxist ideal

00:24:51.400 of universal homogeneity, global uniformity, the erasure of the particular. It's a denial 0.81

00:24:57.660 of nationhood in general and of the American nation in particular. The leftist framing has

00:25:03.900 it that the Christian European West is some sort of blight on humanity that must be destroyed,

00:25:09.360 which is the motivation for taking jobs from Americans and flooding the nation with foreigners. 0.99

00:25:14.140 The H-1B visa program is a subversive policy intended to destabilize heritage, American culture, and its people.

00:25:22.800 David Green continues, quote,

00:25:24.760 Whereas the white liberal defenders of H-1B expansion wanted to status shame Middle America for being racist and not sufficiently colorblind,

00:25:33.480 the Indian defenders of H-1B expansion wanted to status shame Middle America for, well, being white. 0.51

00:25:41.280 Needless to say, this didn't work.

00:25:43.400 Platitudes about how we needed to welcome the huddled masses yearning to work free in

00:25:47.940 our struggling multinationals didn't feel particularly appealing when it was buttressed 1.00

00:25:52.900 by hundreds of Indians screaming about how whites were an inferior race that deserved 1.00

00:25:58.340 to be conquered and replaced. 0.96

00:26:00.440 Maybe this is just what assimilation looks like, but the conversation only ever got more 0.98

00:26:05.160 ridiculous, more insane, and somehow more boomer. 0.98

00:26:08.400 It got to the point that the pro-H1B team started calling all native-born Americans of any race lazy and uneducated. 0.98

00:26:16.760 On the one hand, there were the likes of Joel Berry from the Babylon Bee claiming that Americans just couldn't match the talent of imported Indian labor because we had somehow systematically miseducated ourselves.

00:26:28.780 On the other hand, there were hordes of online internet users from the subcontinent bloviating about how American natives didn't have the will to power necessary to work 80 hours a week and on holidays like Christmas.

00:26:42.400 Keep in mind that this battle largely took place on Christmas. 0.62

00:26:46.720 So I guess the people writing these tweets were all hard at work doing their highly technical jobs American natives were unqualified to do. 0.55

00:26:54.420 Was their job to post anti-white, anti-Christian diatribes online constantly? 0.93

00:26:59.620 Perhaps, but that is certainly a different take on hard work than the one we hear about from the boomers. 0.91

00:27:05.680 But hey, maybe this was just a case of internet crazy. 0.62

00:27:09.040 After all, for the most part, all of these sentiments were just tweet fights between online personalities.

00:27:14.560 And it might have stayed that way had not Vivek Ramaswamy intervened with one of the worst ex-posts of all time, 0.82

00:27:21.680 embodying how the worst aspects of the pro-H1B side could exist in one brain,

00:27:27.940 not on the internet, but in the real government officials that expected to rule us. 0.98

00:27:33.560 The reason top tech companies often hire foreign-born and first-generation engineers

00:27:38.480 over Native Americans isn't because of an innate American IQ deficit,

00:27:43.200 a lazy and wrong explanation.

00:27:45.520 A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. 0.72

00:27:48.540 Sadly, Americans have been co-opted to support this gospel of unfettered immigration, 0.86

00:27:53.600 which is nothing less than a purposeful suicide of the West forced upon us by our elites. 0.84

00:27:58.960 How should Christians and Christian pastors address this needless destruction?

00:28:03.820 We'll talk about that in this episode of the King's Hall Podcast.

00:28:07.260 The King's Hall Podcast exists to make self-ruled men who rule well and win the world.

00:28:17.920 well gentlemen welcome to this episode of the king's hall podcast we three kings once again

00:28:28.700 dan burkholder small town american scandinavian yeah college norwegian yep that's right

00:28:36.060 yep i just want to eric thank you for dressing up for this occasion yeah i try to do what i can

00:28:42.020 i'm trying to bring actually it was a blue collar podcast it is working class america so what is

00:28:47.240 more working class brian than carhartt is your blazer carhartt yeah well first of all no because

00:28:53.480 carhartt sold out to the gays oh so my blazer is handmade by um heritage americans you mean

00:29:01.220 the vietnamese i think is what you're referring to that is what i mean yes uh welcome to this

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00:31:47.600 We're going to be talking about the H-1B visa fiasco,

00:31:51.380 which I did think it was interesting dropped on Christmas

00:31:54.500 that the oligarchs found that was a good time to do that.

00:31:57.500 So we'll get into that in just a moment.

00:31:59.140 Brian, we do have some exciting things coming, including conference.

00:32:02.820 Yes.

00:32:03.460 June 12th through 14th in, well, Ogden, Utah.

00:32:07.660 Let's go.

00:32:08.320 What better place?

00:32:09.180 Uh, I don't know.

00:32:11.120 A lot of people have been asking me about this.

00:32:12.660 I don't know if you've got these questions.

00:32:14.660 Uh, registration is actually up.

00:32:16.780 Uh, we've yet to announce speakers and themes.

00:32:20.980 I don't know if you're prepared to say anything just to wet the appetite of the listener.

00:32:27.540 Yeah.

00:32:27.760 I think it's about time to start unveiling a little bit of what we're going to be doing

00:32:31.920 and why we're, we're really excited.

00:32:33.700 This episode actually fits really well with, um, some of the things we're looking toward

00:32:38.420 with the conference, which really combines a few elements, Lord willing. We're looking to

00:32:45.140 re-examine some of the spirit of courage and exploration that drove everything from the

00:32:53.000 settling of the American West to the age of exploration, focusing on some of the things

00:32:57.920 that have made especially our nation great, looking back through American history and trying

00:33:04.280 to draw some lessons and inspiration from those things, and then put some practical handles on

00:33:10.220 them so that we might, you know, stand on the shoulders of our forefathers, remember and honor

00:33:16.860 them, and then also really like do them proud, do them justice. And we think that really is a lot of

00:33:23.120 the work that needs to be done in this day, is that kind of courageous spirit of settling,

00:33:29.440 standing against the evils of our day with courage and stalwartness and reclaiming and

00:33:36.460 renewing some of the glory that we've lost in this Protestant and great nation. So I hope you guys

00:33:43.020 check it out. You can go to our website, newchristendompress.com. There's a conference

00:33:47.160 tab right at the top. I think that the specific location is newchristendompress.com slash 2025

00:33:53.240 2025. And you can get tickets already. They're at the most discounted rate. You're going to find

00:33:58.260 currently right now. They get more expensive as we get closer. And I know, you know, hundreds of

00:34:03.920 you are already signed up and going to be there. So really just a great, great place to meet some

00:34:09.980 friends, network. We have more networking events than we've ever had at our conference. So for

00:34:16.380 pastors, for business leaders, for singles, which we've already had several marriages from our last 0.97

00:34:21.540 one. We have. Praise God. Yes. And another engagement recently. Yeah, and an engagement.

00:34:27.140 So, man, this has become quickly one of the highlights of, I think, our year, just hanging

00:34:34.700 out with everybody. Really, like, conference talks are great, and we aim to make sure that

00:34:39.480 they are well worth your time. And not just rehashings of things you've heard 50 times

00:34:44.440 before, but well worth your time. But even more than that, the brotherhood, the camaraderie,

00:34:49.780 the fellowship. I think that, that we, how, how often do we get to get, do we all like us

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00:35:41.840 Yeah, so stay tuned.

00:35:43.020 We'll be announcing speakers for the conference.

00:35:45.600 i think uh you know i think we can safely say joel webin will be there he'll be he'll be doing um

00:35:52.760 impaling part two joel said perfecting your technique joel said i will be there whether

00:35:57.340 you invite me or not not only that he said i'll be there and i will be speaking whether you invite

00:36:02.820 me or not so he asked for a two-hour time slot yeah not gonna happen but definitely not we did

00:36:07.820 he really ask for two hours we appreciate the enthusiasm what a guy what a guy at least he

00:36:12.640 knows himself. He knows himself well. The thing I do, I do just want to like highlight is that

00:36:17.360 when we put these conferences together, and I hope it showed last year and the year before,

00:36:21.540 but when we put these conferences together, we're not going for, hey, who that has the

00:36:28.120 biggest platform out there that's kind of at all on our team could we get? That's not our aim at

00:36:33.420 all. We're trying to put together the kind of lineup and talks and just the people in the room

00:36:40.200 that are going to do, you know, give the most value, the most compelling, interesting,

00:36:46.660 inspirational, um, courage inducing talks, not just like, Hey, you know, we heard that this guy

00:36:52.560 with 600,000 Twitter followers, who's like not completely gay. We, you know, maybe we could get

00:36:58.160 him. He said one true thing one time. Yeah. The only exception, and I'll look into the camera for

00:37:03.020 this, uh, you know, enhance zoom in here, Tucker Carlson. I want to address you personally, um,

00:37:09.540 for a moment. I know that you're listening to this podcast and I just want to say that, um,

00:37:14.340 I hope you're doing well. And, um, it's, it's, you know, just been inspirational to follow your

00:37:19.200 career and your courage. And we would love to have you, uh, out for the new Christian

00:37:23.800 impressed 2025 conference. And maybe if Alps wants to Alp wants to sponsor the show, I know

00:37:31.200 a couple of users here in the room. I know a couple of drug users here in the room. Um, so

00:37:35.540 that's great yeah let's go let's tucker um we'll await your your email great so uh pretty much on

00:37:42.080 lockdown for tucker 2025 uh really excited about the conference i'm not going to say what dan is 0.60

00:37:47.820 going to do because honestly we don't know but i hope it involves pit vipers and some sabaton

00:37:53.140 i think people would be i mean nobody has mentioned that i couldn't do it the most iconic

00:37:58.460 moment of 2020 we were actually standing at the side of the stage and i hear the music playing

00:38:03.940 And I was talking to some of the other speakers and I didn't fully know that

00:38:07.300 was going to happen.

00:38:08.360 And I looked at Ben Garrett and I was like, what is happening right now?

00:38:12.920 And it quickly became the greatest, one of the greatest moments of the

00:38:16.520 conference.

00:38:18.040 Maybe I could just do that again.

00:38:19.400 I don't need to speak.

00:38:20.780 I can just do a, you know, a couple of walk-bys.

00:38:23.740 Yeah.

00:38:24.140 Just a couple.

00:38:24.880 On the stage.

00:38:25.540 Yeah.

00:38:26.000 All you have to do is.

00:38:26.720 Or I'll just bomb your talks in the middle.

00:38:28.720 All of a sudden, Sabaton starts playing like a WWF event.

00:38:31.900 and i come out there with pit vipers you bribe martin you're like middle of the talk interrupt

00:38:37.400 yeah hit play on this and martin's like absolutely not and you're like mr franklin says that you're

00:38:42.840 going to do it he says you can't what what i still know still know so yeah definitely check

00:38:50.000 that out uh again go to the website new christenpress.com 2025 you can sign up sign 0.98

00:38:55.680 up for the singles mixer only if you're single come on yeah oh my word but polygamists don't 0.58

00:39:01.440 I guess, all right. 0.98

00:39:03.460 I guess, it's Utah.

00:39:05.140 Gentlemen, in today's episode, we're going to be talking quite a bit about people in place.

00:39:09.340 Dan, you were talking about Leinenkugels.

00:39:13.220 You brought this up to me as we were discussing the H-1B visa and kind of what's happened to the American economy.

00:39:20.440 One of the things I found most interesting is how you pronounce the word, I say Chippewa. 0.90

00:39:26.080 Yeah, this was like.

00:39:27.180 And Dan was like, Chippewa. 0.72

00:39:28.460 This is the Wisconsin version.

00:39:29.960 Chippewa. 1.00

00:39:30.400 the it's it's how they assert dominance on my people yeah language you control the dictionary 0.97

00:39:35.300 so could you just say first of all what is the proper like way to say proper the local way is

00:39:41.720 chippewa chippewa chippewa chippewa yeah i don't know if that's the proper way no but that's the

00:39:46.940 local way my minnesota family does often say it that way too chippewa yeah chippewa chippewa

00:39:52.640 every time i say it now i'm gonna be it's like it's an indian word like yeah it is to brian's

00:39:57.200 people. So, well, well, get you, get you. Oh man. It's making a comeback. Yeah. I do have quite a

00:40:06.960 few Chippewa ancestors. You're related to the Chippewa. Yeah. My grandma, my grandmother's

00:40:11.080 half Chippewa, I believe. No, she's, she's some, she's some large percentage. My dad was the last

00:40:17.220 generation that could get a card for the reservation, which I don't know why you'd want 1.00

00:40:22.000 one because it's like one of the worst cultures, like literally ever to exist. So have you received 1.00

00:40:27.180 any reparations for no we don't even have a casino like we're not even there's no benefit

00:40:32.320 whatsoever i i visited the res one time and i almost got stabbed and i was five it actually

00:40:39.780 sounds like a res experience yeah a kid accused me of digging a hole in his yard first of all i

00:40:45.840 was like you call that a yard looks more like a patch of dirt to me right but then he was like

00:40:51.200 you dug this hole and i was like i didn't dig the hole and he's like threatening me with a knife so

00:40:54.620 Then my brother waded into the pond and immediately cut his foot on a jagged piece of glass from a broken bottle of what we call fire water.

00:41:04.780 Was it Leinenkugel's?

00:41:06.120 It was not.

00:41:07.100 It was probably corn liquor.

00:41:09.500 You see how we're tying it all together here?

00:41:11.380 It was probably Huttysark.

00:41:12.440 Story time with Brian Silvey.

00:41:14.360 Yeah, so anyway, Chippewa. 0.72

00:41:16.340 Chippewa, great.

00:41:17.420 Dan, back to Chippewa.

00:41:18.660 Yeah, Chippewa Falls is actually really close to my hometown, Eau Claire, Wisconsin.

00:41:24.620 It's just up the road.

00:41:25.460 And so line and kugels has always been something that's actually invoked a lot of pride in

00:41:30.920 the area, especially like you can find it all around the world, really, but especially

00:41:37.000 all around the country, I guarantee you, if we go to a local bar, they're going to have

00:41:40.360 lineys on top.

00:41:41.120 Oh yeah.

00:41:41.820 You know, it's just, and so that story, when, when it came out that they were closing the

00:41:47.540 brewery, that, that was actually like kind of a hit.

00:41:51.280 That's why I connected it.

00:41:52.460 when, when you said we were going to talk about H1B and I'm like, you know, who doesn't have any

00:41:56.300 H1B employees lining Kugels, but no, the reason that I thought of it is because you actually have

00:42:04.140 this evolution of corporate greed and globalism, really the globalist economy to where you start

00:42:10.420 eating up the smallest economic centers, which are small towns. And then you go and you, they

00:42:17.020 feeds this globalist beast. And so really I was trying to show the evolution where it starts at

00:42:23.140 the small town and you've got a small town of something that they're actually really proud of.

00:42:27.140 They employ like 125 people at this brewery. It's not a ton of people, but there's only 14,500 people

00:42:34.640 in Chippewa Falls. Plus there's the Lainey's Lodge, which is like a tourist destination and

00:42:40.980 conference center and things like that. And so people will come there and do the tastings and

00:42:45.180 then they get the brewery tour and it's really cool because it was it was started in 1867 and so

00:42:51.060 it's just rich with history and so there are other businesses that rely on the tourism that you know

00:42:58.160 that that brewery attracts and so it's it's really felt more than just that and then another thing

00:43:04.140 is that it actually strips people of their identity because that was something that was

00:43:09.480 local to them, you know, that, uh, there's, uh, one of the interviews, the guy has like a liney's

00:43:15.040 tattoo, you know, because he's a Chippewa falls resident. He's just really proud of this company

00:43:20.820 that that's local and, and has really made it big. And the corporate greed, they're just without

00:43:27.240 looking anyone in the eye, they just eat it up because, uh, like we said in the cold open because

00:43:32.580 of that one pesky expense that's titled payroll, you know, this is what Pat Buchanan was getting

00:43:38.600 at in the death of the West when he said that the transnational corporation is a natural antagonist

00:43:45.280 of tradition. And this is the kind of this, because there's a million examples of this,

00:43:51.100 that these corporations exist for the pleasure and profit of their shareholders. Right.

00:43:55.340 And they have no loyalty to any particular people or place. And so naturally, when you,

00:44:01.880 especially when large corporations purchase these smaller local companies and make them

00:44:06.400 subsidiaries or, you know, just adopt them into their brand of cold Coca-Cola or yum or whatever,

00:44:12.960 you know, mill cores, whatever this one was. Um, they just, they deracinate, they, they pull them

00:44:19.400 out from the roots and it's like, they're trying to pull this native plant out that grew in this

00:44:25.060 one place in this one climate that marked this one region. And they just want to, you know,

00:44:30.580 sort of make a neutral copyable version of it that they can plant anywhere in the world and

00:44:36.460 think that they're getting the same thing. But it always ends, ends with the destruction of

00:44:41.900 custom tradition, peoples, their place, the particularity of a community.

00:44:48.620 Yeah. You even kind of get this feel when, you know, I had friends when we were in the gun

00:44:52.560 industry, we would travel to these small towns in America because you're usually hunting in

00:44:56.320 the middle of nowhere whether it's Oklahoma or Idaho and I had several friends you know my

00:45:01.280 inclination was probably more like Ben and Brian where I'm like I want to go to a grow you know a

00:45:06.840 great local eatery somewhere like Chili's Chili's by the way it's it is a joke Chili's is not good

00:45:16.140 if you eat there you will feel like dying so within minutes but but one of the things that

00:45:22.080 they would do is say no let's go to a local place let's figure out what the local brew is

00:45:26.120 But we're finding in our culture that because of the Leinenkugel-type thing, there almost isn't anything left of local breweries.

00:45:34.280 So even in Colorado, you had all these local breweries, and they would start – and then Coors would buy them up, and then they would start producing it in their factories.

00:45:42.440 And it would – like Blue Moon is a good example.

00:45:44.900 It would lose all the contour of what that beer was before.

00:45:48.120 It was just easier to produce the way they did it.

00:45:50.360 my question is do you think that this is like are we just embarking on some form of like you know

00:45:57.580 dumb nostalgia we just want to relive some time period piece or and and this is probably what we

00:46:04.220 would argue this actually comes down to it seems love of neighbor yes and nationalism net the 0.65

00:46:10.560 nation being an extension of the family that we actually love our particular people and place

00:46:15.940 not just this monochromatic thing that's global and doesn't mean anything to anyone. So do you

00:46:22.220 guys agree with that? Which side would you kind of argue on that point? Yeah. I mean, think about,

00:46:27.480 I'm still just, I think it's easy to, easiest to see these things through particular glories

00:46:33.680 in the world that we can recognize and taste and see and touch. Like I think of something like

00:46:38.960 tobacco or like scotch and the production of these things, they're tied to a place. And when you,

00:46:45.200 when you taste a really good scotch, you're taken in a way to that place. You can taste the sea salt

00:46:51.540 and you can taste the landscape and the people and the history and the tradition. And these are,

00:46:57.080 you know, this is a thing that sits in a tree that really grew somewhere and like an oak tree that

00:47:01.500 really, it had roots down in soil and it's, you know, grains that grew in a particular climate

00:47:06.940 and it aged in a particular place in, you know, in Scotland in this case. And so you can't

00:47:12.840 universalize scotch and have it still be scotch. You can't universalize like the tobacco that's

00:47:19.600 grown in the American South and have it still be the same thing. And the reason we need to see

00:47:25.220 these issues, not as just exercises in nostalgia, where we're sort of longing for an arbitrary

00:47:31.000 previous era for no good reason other than it invokes a feeling of nostalgia in us.

00:47:36.920 We actually need to see that the erosion of these things is the result of an evil, unethical, anti-human, anti-God ideology that is attempting to swallow the world, which is this universalizing, like what Gramscian Marxist, this universalizing globalism that seeks to erode everything and homogenize everything.

00:48:01.500 and basically turn everything into just this one faceless, anti-particular mush that has no

00:48:10.300 edges or contours or glories. And the reason I say that's evil and an assault against

00:48:15.960 man and God is because God didn't make the world like that. God did something different. In his

00:48:24.120 wisdom, he made a world full of variegation. And it's for the same reason that egalitarianism

00:48:31.240 is evil, eroding all of the hierarchy and all of the, all the distinction between the sexes.

00:48:38.380 It's, it's equally evil to do that with the rest of God's creation, with nations and peoples and 0.63

00:48:43.560 places. And God really did make a world where he, he, he wanted there to be such thing as England.

00:48:50.600 Like God did that in France and Scandinavia.

00:48:54.340 What's interesting, even the, the boomer impulse. So Dan, you're probably familiar with this from

00:48:58.620 your just vast experience in business college but um that's a joke you can i was like i can't

00:49:05.020 go to business college yeah but you know come on how good was the business college

00:49:12.160 i mean you can tell me did you learn this lesson i'm an owner in a successful business dude see

00:49:18.040 it paid off it just took like 20 years that's what i was getting all i had to do was all i

00:49:23.540 had to do is everything they told me not to do yeah that's right i mean let's face it business

00:49:27.280 school is just uh you know it's an easy degree that you can go out drinking on the weekends

00:49:32.220 you know for other people yeah blinding kugels hey anyway great minds think alike yeah so my

00:49:38.920 question is when you think about i i think part of this is like the 20th century boomer impulse

00:49:44.900 so you think about ray crock and mcdonald's so just one snapshot of what the company did

00:49:49.920 it used to be that the restaurants were kind of unique to whatever region uh the restaurant was

00:49:55.360 in. So for example, um, they used to produce a variety of potatoes that they would use

00:50:00.540 for French fries. And then what they realized was, well, let's just do, I think it's the

00:50:05.560 russet potato now. That's why they're so big is because it was easiest to put through the

00:50:10.200 machinery and we're going to standardize it where every McDonald's uses the same product,

00:50:15.400 freeze dried, uh, you know, russet potato. But you can also see what that did to take away,

00:50:21.320 Brian, all the variety that you would have experienced. It used to be the case that

00:50:26.340 restaurants were like sourcing food locally. That was like a normal thing to do. If you're

00:50:30.180 going to have French fries, you find somebody semi-local that is going to produce the potato.

00:50:34.360 But now it changed the way that row cropping worked. It changed a lot about the economy,

00:50:39.540 agriculture, et cetera. But it also took away the variety, the uniqueness and the distinctiveness.

00:50:45.820 Yeah. Yeah. And it's not just the variety, but if you used Chippewa Falls, Wisconsin,

00:50:49.980 as the example so historically where did people work and what did they do well like like we said

00:50:57.420 in the cold open there was a lot of trees a lot of white pines and so there was a lot of lumber

00:51:02.760 that was produced and so to support the lumber industry you had cigar manufacturers they need

00:51:08.520 boots so there's the chippa boot company that's still i think still up and running today uh there

00:51:14.300 was like the brewery there was other other things that started and it was local and it's they

00:51:20.400 supported one another so even the brewery historically they had to source their grains

00:51:25.320 locally so that is a unique variety but there's also like those are real farmers that means the

00:51:30.800 brewery is interested in the farmers succeeding yep and the farmers are interested in the brewery

00:51:35.920 succeeding and then what the brewery would do is after the grains were used they would give them

00:51:41.900 back to the farmers for feed. And so it's this whole symbiotic relationship where everybody had

00:51:47.860 a shared interest in one another's success. And it really does. What does that do for a family,

00:51:53.600 essentially an extended family, a town is that you're actually for one another. Now,

00:51:59.560 if you look at the employment of the average citizen in Chippewa Falls, it's going to be in

00:52:04.800 corporate tech, it's going to be in healthcare, or it's going to be government. Those are the

00:52:11.460 main employers in chippewa falls wisconsin today and so where's the shared interest and success

00:52:17.740 there yeah there's just you you're not actually for one another anymore because there's no vested

00:52:23.700 interest in seeing one another succeed actually it creates a uh almost a culture of competitiveness

00:52:31.780 because everybody is competing for just the scraps that the government health care and tech

00:52:36.760 industry can really give to you. And if you can't get that, then you move and you go somewhere else.

00:52:42.100 And what it's doing, and this is again why we call it evil, is that it's crushing the properly

00:52:46.940 aligned economic instinct that God really did bake into the world, which is intended to be the love

00:52:52.560 of your neighbor. You ought to be engaging in economic activity, not merely for the sake of

00:52:58.040 your bottom line, which is it ends up being a short-sighted goal if you do that. It might work

00:53:02.540 for a time, but because it's an assault against God and righteousness, it will ultimately consume

00:53:08.300 itself and create misery. Properly aligned economies are just an aspect of love of neighbor.

00:53:15.940 And so when you take all of the roots out of your actual neighbors and you just start thinking of

00:53:20.200 some faceless shareholder, it does allow you to do that. The guy making the decision about the

00:53:25.640 line in Kugel Brewery, he didn't have to look anybody in the eye. This is, I know I'm Buchanan

00:53:30.200 maxing a little bit, but it's because I finished the death of the West recently. He called this

00:53:34.620 the heresy of economism. And he has this great quote. I want to read it here. He said, and the

00:53:39.740 idea is that man is not merely an economic animal. He said, quote, many conservatives have succumbed

00:53:45.220 because this is a conservative error, quote unquote, neoconservative error. He says many

00:53:50.460 conservatives have succumbed to the heresy of economism, a mirror Marxism that holds that man

00:53:55.780 is an economic animal, that free trade and free markets are the path to peace, prosperity,

00:54:00.980 and happiness, that if we can only get the marginal tax rates right and the capital gains

00:54:05.800 tax abolished, paradise, Dow 36,000, is at hand. But when the income tax rate for the wealthiest

00:54:11.860 was above 90% in the 1950s, America, by every moral and social indicator, was a better country.

00:54:19.040 So his point is that, and my voice just cracked a little bit because I've been recording vocals

00:54:23.780 for my upcoming Psalms album, which you should all see, but everything's lawless.

00:54:30.320 I'm proud of you.

00:54:31.760 Thanks guys.

00:54:32.560 Wow.

00:54:34.140 See, see the way that this error works though, in the theonomic movement in the 20th century,

00:54:39.560 some of this like 20th century theological instinct to begin to move the Chester,

00:54:45.620 Chesterton's fence to move fences.

00:54:47.560 They didn't know why they were there in the first place.

00:54:49.080 And with NAFTA and with all the global free trade kind of thinking, we got rid of all

00:54:53.960 of them.

00:54:54.960 And the theonomic libertarian mind, it reads a quote like that from Buchanan and it explodes.

00:55:02.060 It can't think of a higher purpose of God's law, quote unquote, than to just get to free

00:55:10.420 trade, basically globalism, borderless.

00:55:14.100 Yeah, you've heard things like free markets make free men.

00:55:16.800 Yeah, and it's like, well, hang on though.

00:55:19.080 because actually markets historically were a part, they were a part of the apparatus of a people

00:55:24.620 in a place that was grounded to the things of that place and the customs of that place.

00:55:32.200 And the economy was an extension of neighbor love. So, so this isn't a Ludditism. We're not

00:55:37.400 saying that we need to get rid of technological innovation and that people should stop taking

00:55:42.340 dominion and the economic sphere. But when we take the seatbelt of neighbor love and this kind

00:55:48.740 of commonsensical, normal way of thinking about human beings for the vast majority of human

00:55:53.660 history. And we just erase all of those with globalist universalism. What we do is we thinking

00:56:03.100 we're wise, we become fools. And all we do is, you know, we end up serving the God of mammon 0.95

00:56:10.280 and we end up serving the God of, you know, stock price go up. That becomes the whole end of the

00:56:15.740 law what is the chief end of man to make the stock price go up well it's interesting to me too and

00:56:21.560 we'll delve more into the h1b and vivek's comments um in just a minute but with immigration one of

00:56:27.600 the things that has interested me is that the church uh throughout the 20th century has actually

00:56:34.100 adapted its message away from what you're talking about that economy and politics really would

00:56:38.340 function under love to neighbor because they're all about relationships with uh with and between 0.94

00:56:43.420 men. But now the church is actually promoting things like unfettered immigration, you know,

00:56:49.900 because of a, you know, a greater opportunity to evangelize or something like this. So what I want

00:56:55.900 to ask you is, do you see these ways in which instead of the church being salt and light and

00:57:01.160 having this historic view on all these issues, which it forever had, now it's just basically

00:57:07.160 American evangelicalism in particular is just finding new ways to put the leftist dogma into

00:57:15.460 our canon. So, so what I mean is like, take feminism and egalitarianism. We find all these

00:57:22.220 creative ways to shade it so that it looks like, Oh, you know what? The scriptures don't teach

00:57:27.100 biblical patriarchy. In fact, it's actually egalitarian. Let me show you how they've done

00:57:31.500 the same thing with immigration. So my question is, do you see that? Where do you see that? And

00:57:36.680 why is it problematic? And we'll start with Dan, because he looks like he has an interested face

00:57:43.680 on right now. Well, it's a thoughtful face, because I am trying to think through, like,

00:57:48.440 where did the evangelical church fall into this trap of this globalist, economic,

00:57:56.540 essentially replacing your own people, not loving your own people? And I don't think it's

00:58:00.960 intentional. I was thinking about one of the songs that we sang as children was red and black and

00:58:07.960 yellow, red and yellow, black and white. They are precious in his sight. Jesus loves the little

00:58:13.480 children of the world. But the problem is then we just said, so because he loves all the little

00:58:18.720 children of the world, let's have them all live in my neighborhood. And I think there's just an

00:58:23.240 unthinking uh catechism you know we've been catechized over time in this globalist ideal

00:58:29.180 that the best culture and society that could exist is pretty much just uh homogeneity it's

00:58:38.280 post-national it's yeah yeah we've we've transcended nationalism yeah i think it depends on

00:58:44.380 which you know point in time you're talking about sure but for example i i think it's actually more

00:58:49.600 malicious subversion. So if you look at the OOs, the two thousands, um, you have guys like Rick

00:58:56.060 Warren who are going to Davos and they're meeting with the George Soros people. And then in that

00:59:02.400 same time period, you know, things that, uh, he really started pushing in America were like,

00:59:06.780 uh, multicultural international adoption. Um, so these are just different ways to soften,

00:59:12.960 the feelings of kinship and people and place. So you have all that going on. Meg Basham in her book

00:59:20.720 I think has clearly shown that these people, many of the evangelical leadership was bought and paid

00:59:25.980 for by these Soros funds or things adjacent to them. So I don't know when all of that started,

00:59:32.540 but you could even go back to the 80s and how Ronald Reagan welcomed the intense Christian 0.77

00:59:39.500 Zionists into his camp, the Hal Lindsey's of the world, Pat Robertson. So there's always been this 0.74

00:59:45.700 relationship, I think, where conservatives kind of found a way into some of the voices of power

00:59:50.620 in the state level. And, you know, there's money involved. There's money and power politics

00:59:57.200 involved. And I think over time, it's like, well, what do you know? Now the theological message of

01:00:03.200 the church has changed to fit some of those initiatives. And I think one of the most famous

01:00:08.560 ones would be like Russell Moore saying things like, you know, Jesus was a brown-skinned immigrant

01:00:14.040 and therefore we need to love brown-skinned immigrants. You know, that sort of thinking

01:00:19.480 wasn't present in the church in previous centuries. And so then the question, right,

01:00:24.340 this is a question like, where is this coming from and why is the church being duped? I think

01:00:27.560 money and power being a huge reason for it. And what you have to understand is that Gramsci was

01:00:33.220 right. So Gramsci was a Marxist in his theory, like his supposition was that Marxism by force,

01:00:41.520 like Stalinism, Leninism was not going to succeed because, and his, and he located, I think very 0.56

01:00:48.460 intelligently, the problem was that the people themselves were too Christian. Like it won't 0.98

01:00:54.120 work on the West is his idea because the people have with centuries deep of rootedness, they have

01:01:00.040 this Christian knee-jerk discipleship on an instinctual level in all of the ways that they

01:01:07.080 think. And because the Christian, like in the Christian tradition and in truth, grace doesn't 0.87

01:01:11.700 destroy nature, it perfects it. So grace didn't, and Marxism tries to destroy nature. It tries to

01:01:18.580 flatten everything, level everything, homogenize everything, and centralize everything, universalize

01:01:23.620 everything. It's like purportedly a system where if anybody anywhere can adopt this universal

01:01:28.960 culture of thinking and it will, you know, enact utopia. So Gramsci understood that what's going

01:01:35.400 to happen if you try to impose that by force on a people is that it will eventually fall apart.

01:01:39.780 It won't work. So, and then he identified Christianity as the problem. So instead,

01:01:44.660 the famous slow march through the institutions was his solution. Media, the academy. We need to

01:01:49.480 capture institutional culture-making mechanisms. We need to slowly subvert them in quite

01:01:55.400 intentionally, they literally wrote all this down and said they were going to do it. And then they

01:01:59.180 did it. Media, arts, academy, economy, schools, higher education, church, and churches are one

01:02:05.900 of them, that they subverted with an intentional counter novel propagandist culture and even

01:02:15.940 theological apparatus that slowly all of these institutions that create and guard gatekeep

01:02:22.000 culture were one to what we call Gramsian Marxism. And so the express purpose was to

01:02:29.300 de-Christianize the people so that they could be converted to Marxism, basically this universalist, 0.63

01:02:36.860 globalist, satanic, Marxist sort of ideology. And so when we look at all these different aspects

01:02:42.380 of the world and we say, that's what they said they were going to do. And then we go, oh, look,

01:02:47.900 They did it.

01:02:48.460 They did it.

01:02:49.200 They successfully did it.

01:02:51.160 It shouldn't be a shock to us that there are Russell Moores in the world in something like the institution of the church that are more than willing to either willfully or as dupes, as stooges, play along.

01:03:03.380 Yeah, I think it's really interesting, too, because in some ways, the powerful arms of the church have functioned much like a state church, like the mouthpiece for a lot of status policies.

01:03:16.720 You can think of COVID being one of those where, you know, Francis Collins and other people are going to Rick Warren and all the church leaders.

01:03:23.780 And like, this is how you need to tell people that, you know, love your neighbor, you know, you're going to kill grandma if you don't get the vax, whatever.

01:03:29.800 So I think that's definitely something we have to consider as a church is just the amount of subversion that has taken place.

01:03:36.400 And part of the reason that we've done this work of going back to the old Protestant doctrine is that you've got to get outside of this century and see what, you know, what were our fathers in the faith saying about, you know, these types of issues, immigration, et cetera.

01:03:53.380 As we delve more into the H-1B and you really look at what the program is, it's not about bringing in geniuses.

01:04:03.020 I think David Green was like really quick to point this out. 0.96

01:04:06.400 It's about bringing in cheap labor, and it's largely about importing the third or maybe second world into the U.S. 0.87

01:04:14.060 So just from a Christian and theological standpoint, do Christians have a foundation to stand on, you know, contra-russel more? 0.99

01:04:23.200 Is there a Christian foundation for saying, actually, you have a duty to your own people?

01:04:28.880 We have no—like I've said things like, we have no moral obligation to import the entire world into America.

01:04:34.260 But Christians are saying that we kind of do. 0.55

01:04:37.580 So theologically, H-1B, immigration, people in place, it's all tied together.

01:04:42.380 How do you start to think through the immigration issue?

01:04:47.420 Well, yeah, I think the first thing is that corporations through greed have been played by subversives that want to actually destroy.

01:04:55.280 And I'm sure they participate in it as well intentionally.

01:04:58.600 But I think a lot of corporations just see it as like a way to gain more profitability.

01:05:02.860 because if you go through the evolution, you know, you strip the small town economy into the big

01:05:07.040 corporate giant, and then you export most of the jobs overseas. And then you have to further try

01:05:13.580 to be as profitable as possible for your shareholders. So you replace American jobs 0.99

01:05:18.480 in America with foreigners that work for less money. And so that seems very attractive for just 1.00

01:05:24.160 the average corporate, you know, bottom line, I guess, if you will. But then there's a different

01:05:30.460 play being run like you said is that there's actually this mass importation of people not

01:05:37.260 just through h1b though as we've seen with illegal immigration we are being plundered

01:05:42.740 on all sides and christians do have a duty to their own people because what is actually 0.94

01:05:50.260 happening with that if if the goal is a gramsian marxist society where there is no christianity

01:05:56.880 there is no God, but the state or whatever they tell you to worship at the time, then you have to

01:06:03.380 dilute the Christian Anglo-Protestant culture. And the way you do that is by bringing in foreigners 1.00

01:06:11.400 with their foreign gods, their foreign culture. And you essentially, you dilute the culture so 1.00

01:06:17.360 much that what is it? At that point, it's this idea of a melting pot. It's just, it's asinine.

01:06:25.540 it's ridiculous you can't have a melting pot where it's like oh this is a new and great glorious stew 0.99

01:06:31.460 with hindus and buddhists and muslims and jews and christians all living in harmony and it's just a 1.00

01:06:38.360 beautiful society that's that's baloney and so you if you want to kill christianity and christian 1.00

01:06:45.120 culture even the remnants of it you bring in foreigners with their foreign gods and their 1.00

01:06:50.500 foreign values and morals and social norms, and you just absolutely subvert the entirety of 1.00

01:06:57.220 Christian culture and make it useless and impotent. The answer is not to import foreign cultures, 0.99

01:07:03.920 but to convert foreign cultures. Yes. So we don't import the nations or export a universalist

01:07:10.680 system of culture everywhere, a universalized universalist system of like de-particularized

01:07:16.360 culture to everyone. We want to seek their conversion. So we want the nations to be

01:07:21.080 converted, not imported or universalized. The problem really that you're seeing with this

01:07:27.180 is another expression of basically this novel theological apparatus or cultural apparatus

01:07:32.920 that is fundamentally Marxist. It's like, you're not allowed to love your own nation particularly

01:07:39.720 and seek its good particularly. You need to seek the good of the whole world kind of generally.

01:07:45.520 The problem is that it's actually, it's subtle, but it's a perversion of what Christian love 0.97

01:07:49.880 actually is. 0.77

01:07:50.480 Like, think about the way that the New Testament repeatedly and continually commands Christians

01:07:57.680 to love one another in particular.

01:08:02.980 So Paul and John and Peter, they're writing to communities of saints in Corinth or, you

01:08:09.080 know, across Asia Minor, in Rome, like they're writing to Christians across these places.

01:08:14.320 And one of their most consistent instructions to them, which they received from the Lord Jesus, who said the same, is that they were to love one another.

01:08:22.280 And that was actually going to be one of the key sine qua non distinguishing characteristics that they were even Christians at all, is that they loved one another.

01:08:31.460 And if you think about the logic of that, it makes perfect sense.

01:08:35.260 The Christian communities were to love one another.

01:08:38.360 And as John says, not in mere talk, but in word and deed, right?

01:08:42.640 Not in mere talk, but in word and deed.

01:08:44.320 which means that they actually had to be within earshot of each other and close enough to do deeds

01:08:51.040 of love for one another. It was talking about the love of a local Christian community for itself

01:08:57.460 within itself. And on the basis of that functioning society based on Christian love,

01:09:03.360 you are then able to be of service to other peoples as well. And you can evangelize your

01:09:08.820 city and your place and see the church, you know, other churches established going out in their

01:09:13.040 local places and that sort of thing happening. But what happens if you convert that very particular

01:09:19.140 kind of love in word and deed to a general kind of love for everybody? Well, no longer can you

01:09:26.380 meet the needs of actually anybody in particular. You're just talking about meeting the needs of

01:09:32.520 everyone. So even on a political level in America, our elites were convinced and our institutions

01:09:40.740 were captured to this idea that it was actually a sin to love America in particular and seek her

01:09:46.960 good in particular. And that's what we see in something like the H-1B program. Pat Buchanan, 0.78

01:09:52.820 again, got this back all the way back in 2002. He said that the H-1B program, it's replacing

01:09:58.760 jobs of college graduates in America, and it's a failure to put America first.

01:10:04.780 Which, by the way, today, if you say, you know, even those themes, like some of the MAGA themes,

01:10:10.240 but America first, uh, people, Oh, you're racist. Oh yeah. Think, think about what would get you in

01:10:16.200 more trouble in the average church to say something that people would conclude is, you know, in some

01:10:21.300 way racist, or it's like, um, something like that, or to deny the Trinity. Right. Which would get you

01:10:28.560 in more trouble in the average evangelical church? Racism. Racism. Not like you could get the Trinity

01:10:33.200 wrong and people would be like, they're in, they're in process, they're in process. But if

01:10:38.240 someone walked in and they were like look i'm sick of seeing indian immigrants in my neighborhood 1.00

01:10:42.520 they're destroying this country and taking our jobs they'd be like my brother we need to have 1.00

01:10:47.020 you in several struggle sessions immediately with the elders in their lives this is actually what

01:10:51.420 it's actually already scheduled on the calendar trouble yeah multiple times it's saying like

01:10:55.320 you know i i don't want my neighborhood you know and we we can think uh very locally in utah i 0.94

01:11:01.660 don't want my neighborhood overrun by venezuelans who are murdering people in their apartment complex

01:11:07.640 parking lots and those things are happening yeah and we know people in law enforcement that report 0.94

01:11:12.420 on this and you're like wow that is awful um i don't want that i think it's also really helpful

01:11:17.720 to think through you know because this is tied to the question of what is a nation if you think of

01:11:23.720 the traditional way of thinking of this was that nations are extensions of the family that's why

01:11:28.320 even you know which was patriarchal that's why even words we have like patriotism love for the

01:11:34.240 fatherland the root word is patria all right father is in what the nation is so then you think

01:11:40.700 okay well think of a nation like an extended family and think of and then so you can kind

01:11:46.280 of reverse it and think about you know how should i think about the nation well let's start with the

01:11:49.920 family in terms we can understand well if i have burkholder boys you have burkholder boys in your

01:11:55.120 house and you're thinking as a father like well do i have a greater allegiance to them or to people

01:12:00.780 in Venezuela or India or China?

01:12:03.520 It's really actually a very simple question.

01:12:06.180 I have a greater responsibility to my people.

01:12:09.180 Well, then you have to ask,

01:12:10.320 well, why when you get to the national level,

01:12:11.940 can I not say that I have a greater responsibility

01:12:14.040 to my people?

01:12:15.020 As an extension of the family,

01:12:16.600 that just makes perfect sense.

01:12:19.120 I think the other thing that's wrapped up in this,

01:12:21.600 we've done a lot of work in historical theology,

01:12:24.840 going back to the issue of sex piety,

01:12:27.420 um going back to william goodge and westminster and calvin obviously we published zach garris's

01:12:34.680 book which you can get at new christian press.com slash fathers slash fathers honor thy fathers

01:12:39.340 but we've done this great work i think of combating the egalitarian impulse as it affects

01:12:45.060 the sexual issue but there's also a problem in how it affects nations race peoples i think that one

01:12:54.300 as i'm looking at the contour the lay of the land politically if you thought being called was a

01:12:59.860 misogynist was bad in an intense fight wait till you start talking about nations and i think this

01:13:07.060 is just one of those areas where it's going to take a lot of courageous people yeah to realize

01:13:12.160 we're going to have to say true things um our entire culture especially post-1964

01:13:18.180 has just been you know this idea colorblindness all that we've been indoctrinated in this

01:13:23.480 And the immediate impulse that we all feel because of the cultural catechesis is when Stephen Wolf gives a talk like he gave at our conference, you kind of squirm a little.

01:13:34.540 You're like, are we allowed to say these things?

01:13:36.180 And as you think about them, you're like, well, they're true.

01:13:37.860 I know that. 0.68

01:13:38.540 But Americans have become their own in-groups-out group. 0.97

01:13:41.280 Yes. 0.80

01:13:42.100 And I think Buchanan's really good on this issue.

01:13:44.800 Brian, I know you've been reading him.

01:13:46.100 Another good follow-up book is Suicide of a Superpower.

01:13:49.620 But one of the questions really is the will. 0.57

01:13:52.640 What happened to the will of the West, which is largely white Europeanism?

01:13:58.540 What happened to the will?

01:14:00.300 This is why so many authors like Pat are talking about suicide.

01:14:03.280 There's something in the will that they're saying we ought to be destroyed.

01:14:07.800 It's our service to the world as the world's oppressors for so long that we ought to even desire our own destruction.

01:14:14.020 Pat Buchanan has a great quote on this.

01:14:17.880 He identified, again, over 20 years ago, four potentially fatal dangers to America.

01:14:24.460 He talked about dying populations, that birth rates in the West have collapsed.

01:14:28.520 And this idea signals that people have lost their will to exist as a people.

01:14:33.180 Because you're not reproducing.

01:14:33.880 You're not reproducing.

01:14:34.720 He said, and a lot of this actually has to do with prosperity.

01:14:38.100 Nations that have historically become prosperous have struggled with birth rate. 0.85

01:14:42.740 Second is mass immigration of peoples of different colors, creeds, and cultures changing the character of the West. 0.97

01:14:47.880 forever which is a result of that first problem because it creates a population vacuum which our 0.99

01:14:54.520 elites fill backfill with immigrant populations that are reproducing and more easily exploitable

01:15:00.960 yes he said the third is the rise of two dominance the rise two dominance of an anti-western culture 0.64

01:15:07.840 in the west deeply hostile to its religious to its religions traditions and morality which has

01:15:14.280 already sundered the West. So again, that's Gramscian Marxism, capturing the institutions, 0.94

01:15:19.120 teaching them to hate their culture, their people, hate their fathers. And then he said the fourth is

01:15:23.360 the breakup of nations and the defection of ruling elites to a world government whose rise entails

01:15:29.260 the end of nations. This is that universalism. And his conclusion is, quote, the West does not

01:15:34.740 lack the capacity or power to repel these dangers, but it seems to lack the desire or will

01:15:41.380 to maintain itself as a vital, separate, unique civilization. That's the problem. America remains

01:15:48.080 the most powerful nation on earth, militarily and economically. Today, that is correct. That is

01:15:53.520 true. Indisputably true. People are like, China this, you know, China is collapsing in its own

01:15:59.720 birth rate and is on the cusp of civilizational issues itself. America remains militarily and

01:16:06.440 economically the most potent nation on earth. But what do we lack? We lack the will to exist

01:16:13.780 as a distinct vital civilization. And I think you're onto something, Eric, when you talked about

01:16:20.380 what happened to historic notions of sex to piety and those same passages that are used to

01:16:29.040 universalize and pervert those ideas are used to destroy the particularity of nations.

01:16:35.120 You know, like think of in Colossians when Paul says that, you know, before the cross, there's neither barbarian, Scythian, slave, free.

01:16:41.820 Okay, that's 100% true, not countersignaling Paul.

01:16:45.380 He is correct that in terms of the kingdom of God, the kingdom of heaven, the people of God, the spiritual kingdom, which is a royal priesthood, a holy nation, all these things, there is no distinction in your membership in the body of Christ, be you slave or free, barbarian or Scythian, male or female.

01:17:02.900 But then think about what they did with sexed piety.

01:17:05.580 They concluded from that, or they used that as a wedge to say, therefore, all of the actual

01:17:12.660 distinctions between male and female are nothing.

01:17:15.600 And if you try to prop them up, you are fighting against Christ.

01:17:19.660 Yeah, even Galatians, right, taking a passage in the one part, which is saying there's neither

01:17:24.560 male nor female.

01:17:25.940 So the egalitarians take that, and they want to remove all distinction.

01:17:29.620 Yeah.

01:17:29.740 And I think the conservative Christian church, for the most part, there's been a resurrection of people wanting to fight that.

01:17:36.580 And think about the way that in that same passage, there's neither barbarian, Scythian, slave, free, and Colossians.

01:17:41.080 And look at Philemon, though.

01:17:44.180 Philemon, this is an uncomfortable truth for us today.

01:17:46.660 To Paul, the fact that before the cross there was neither slave nor free did not erase the economic situation of Philemon and Onesimus.

01:17:57.400 He was a slave.

01:17:58.000 It didn't remove the fact that one was a slave and one was a master.

01:18:01.320 And Paul's saying, like, welcome him back as.

01:18:04.140 Nor did it remove the obligations within Paul's household code for slaves to obey their masters in the Roman world, which was a significant amount of the population of Rome and the Roman world were slaves.

01:18:14.800 So to Paul, we have to think clearly that grace didn't destroy nature.

01:18:19.960 It perfected it over time.

01:18:22.440 So grace didn't destroy in this situation the slave and free distinction economically and in terms of culture and time.

01:18:30.520 It didn't remove private property.

01:18:32.420 It didn't remove the fact that there was a husband and wife in a marriage.

01:18:34.740 None of these things were removed.

01:18:35.880 What it did over time is it infused those institutions with Christian love that then went to work and created and perfected that culture.

01:18:44.840 So it's not that over time in a Christian society there would never be any instance where, for example, somebody might have to serve in a slave position, like forced labor because of criminal activity or restitution for crimes, things like that. 0.74

01:19:01.340 But what it did is it would over time hollow out in a Christian society man-stealing and that you would be going and raiding your neighbors and stealing their children and enslaving them and selling them in markets. 0.72

01:19:14.840 Where Christianity went, the cultures remained distinctive cultures, but that practice disappeared, right? 0.85

01:19:21.720 And the state even enforced.

01:19:23.360 So grace did not destroy nature.

01:19:26.460 It perfected it.

01:19:28.660 Yeah, I think that's great.

01:19:29.820 I think one of the other things that we can learn about the sexuality issue, right?

01:19:33.940 And then again, in Colossians, you're saying the same thing. 0.96

01:19:37.720 The people who do the egalitarian thing with male and female then want to do it with Jew and Gentile, right?

01:19:42.440 That passage does not mean there's no cultural, racial, ethnic, nationalistic distinctions anymore because that's not what Paul is teaching, right?

01:19:52.600 One of the things we could learn, though, is in the 1980s, the complementarian camp came around and they tried to build this halfway house between the historic Protestant doctrines of sexuality and some, like, quasi-feminist ideology.

01:20:09.120 And it didn't work.

01:20:10.840 It didn't even really slow down the train.

01:20:13.400 So one of the things that I would just, as we're thinking about nationhood, you know, Christian nationalism, as we're thinking about immigration, one of the things I think we have to be careful not to do is build another halfway house on those issues.

01:20:27.140 That we have to just go back all the way, like, let's just look at the whole history of the church.

01:20:32.440 Let's look at the church fathers.

01:20:33.960 Let's look at the reformers.

01:20:35.740 What were they teaching on these issues?

01:20:37.900 and not do the thing that I've heard a lot in the Christian reform camp,

01:20:41.540 which is to say things like, well, I mean, Calvin was a racist, though.

01:20:46.080 And you're like, well, according to a modern post-1960 definition.

01:20:51.860 A Gramscian Marxist would want you to think that. 0.94

01:20:54.100 Correct.

01:20:55.000 Because he wants you to dishonor your father and hate Calvin.

01:20:58.880 Right.

01:20:59.500 He wants you to hate the Christian tradition. 1.00

01:21:01.580 He wants you to locate within the Christian tradition the greatest evils of the world 0.65

01:21:05.620 so that you begin to hate your actual Christian forefathers and see them as an enemy. 0.99

01:21:12.320 That's how Christians become their own in-groups, out-group. 0.85

01:21:15.700 Yeah, and I think if you just, you know, for the blue-collar guy, 1.00

01:21:18.760 if you're thinking through this, just saying like Gramscian Marxism

01:21:21.380 always wants to erase distinctions that God put there.

01:21:25.560 And so one thing we can say to ourselves is that interpretive grid

01:21:29.020 on these complex situations like immigration is we can say,

01:21:32.340 who in this conversation is trying to eradicate distinctions and who is trying to honor them for

01:21:38.540 what they are. Now, one of the things I think is interesting too about egalitarian Marxist

01:21:42.960 ideology, when you look at the culture, it fundamentally forces you to deny reality.

01:21:49.660 Well, yeah, that's what I was going to say. So Brian was talking about Americans losing their

01:21:55.300 desire to exist. And then with your definition of Gramsian Marxism, that it erases distinctions,

01:22:02.340 What does it ultimately do?

01:22:04.340 It is a dehumanizing philosophy because the ultimate end of every human being is to love.

01:22:11.780 You're supposed to love God and you're supposed to love your neighbor.

01:22:15.040 And so if there's no distinction, who is my neighbor?

01:22:17.780 Like, seriously, is everybody my neighbor?

01:22:19.380 Nobody my neighbor?

01:22:20.080 You know, and then it erases, like you said, sex piety.

01:22:24.280 And so it removes responsibilities because there's no distinction.

01:22:27.520 It removes this whole leftist framing of race.

01:22:33.480 It removes your responsibilities to your own people, and it tries to pigeonhole you into something where you actually hate yourself instead of encouraging to love your neighbor as yourself.

01:22:43.040 Well, even this whole concept that Stephen Wolf talks about, like the shared common good, like in a society that's deracinated and there's no distinction, you're obliterating the common good.

01:22:53.620 There is no common good.

01:22:54.580 There is a suspicion of everyone.

01:22:57.280 Yes.

01:22:57.520 And even the thing we talk about like high trust societies, I don't know if we maybe talked about this before, but a lady does a video, she goes to Japan and she talks, goes through like the Apple store and their phones aren't even locked down.

01:23:09.540 You can walk out the door with them, but they have a high trust society.

01:23:12.440 Well, they also inconveniently have a very homogenous society, right? 0.93

01:23:17.440 It's not this multicultural wasteland. 0.98

01:23:20.040 And so you've got to factor some of those things in. 0.71

01:23:22.300 There is one distinction that is allowed in the Gramsci Marxist world, and it's the distinction between the extreme concentration of power and profit in an elite few that set themselves as gods over the world.

01:23:35.600 You're allowed to have that distinction because no matter what you try to do, you can't actually get rid of distinction.

01:23:40.900 It's kind of like, to use a weird illustration, do you remember that Dr. Seuss book where the pink whatever, like the stain gets on the thing and then they keep trying to clean it?

01:23:50.540 So they like use the, use the, the, the bed sheets to clean the stain, but then the stains on the bed sheets.

01:23:55.040 And then they wash them in the tub and the stains on the tub.

01:23:57.060 And you can only move it around is the, is the, the point.

01:24:00.280 Like you can't get rid of hierarchy and distinction.

01:24:03.160 One big spot.

01:24:04.520 It could be like, oh, it's in the cat in the hat.

01:24:06.760 Yeah.

01:24:07.180 You know, the cat in the hat.

01:24:08.460 Thank you, Google.

01:24:08.980 I like to quote really our philosophers and our great thinkers.

01:24:13.620 Dr. Seuss.

01:24:14.160 Dr. Seuss.

01:24:15.060 Can you quote him?

01:24:16.220 No.

01:24:16.400 one fish two fish believe it or not red fish blue fish so yes but it's that kind of thing you just

01:24:23.720 you end up concentrating this is what all of these universalizing instincts end up doing

01:24:29.540 they just create huge numbers of serfs and a few feudal lords that own when they say you'll own

01:24:38.120 everything and be nothing and be happy they mean we'll own everything and you'll be happy yes

01:24:46.140 Well, and I think one of the helpful strategies, and we will move on, continue talking about David Green here in a minute, but one of the helpful strategies is to point out the inconsistencies.

01:24:57.040 So one of them is like, okay, we're told in our country there's a lot of heat on the Christian nationalism.

01:25:02.900 You cannot have any, however you want to define it, you cannot have any Christian nation acting on its own behalf for its own good type entity.

01:25:13.660 That's horrible. 0.75

01:25:14.600 and we're all pro-Christian Zionism in the country. 1.00

01:25:19.260 Israel can do that.

01:25:21.620 Even Black Lives Matter,

01:25:23.280 the black people can be for the black people 0.84

01:25:25.120 and people say, well, that's really good.

01:25:28.100 So I think sometimes pressing into those inconsistencies

01:25:31.000 and then what you find at bottom,

01:25:32.820 like Pat Buchanan is really good.

01:25:33.820 It's just anti-white. 0.95

01:25:35.320 That's the reality. 1.00

01:25:36.700 They're trying to destroy Christianity. 1.00

01:25:38.100 They're trying to destroy Anglo-Protestant culture 0.99

01:25:40.600 in America, et cetera. 1.00

01:25:42.400 One thing I do think's interesting

01:25:44.220 from the dave green article we didn't quote from this but it's in there and we'll link to it in the

01:25:48.360 show notes he says there's been a fundamental shift in the last year particularly where the

01:25:54.300 progressive left is they're like in their death throes nothing they're saying is resonating you

01:25:59.500 can see that they've even kind of retreated i think more than likely they're regathering

01:26:03.860 themselves for another assault at some point obviously they didn't go away but the key fights

01:26:09.980 right now like the h1b thing that broke on christmas the key fights are on the right people

01:26:16.780 fighting about what the right will be it's exactly right and so um you know again these upstarts these

01:26:23.080 oligarchs they they you know vivek comes in he says i know how to run america and actually i

01:26:28.220 think vivek is a great example of why being tied to the anglo-protestant tradition should be a

01:26:34.660 requirement for like ruling in america are you talking about vivek ramadan shawarma the same

01:26:39.800 one yeah i can't is it vivek ramakin salami i can't remember it's one of those i mean i pronounced it

01:26:46.060 many different ways classic american classic american last name right there was smith and

01:26:51.660 cooper yeah yeah so vivek i'd like to take a moment and address you personally and just say

01:26:56.600 i know you want to speak at the conference i'm sorry but the tweet it really put you out of the

01:27:02.220 running yeah it put you out of the running and i mean think about think about this in another way

01:27:05.700 people are like oh you're being racist america's a propositional nation whatever but like if i

01:27:10.000 moved to japan even if i became a japanese citizen which is quite the process i don't even know if

01:27:14.700 you could do it but if i moved to japan could i tell people i am now japanese people would laugh

01:27:21.180 if people would laugh in your face you're not actually japanese is the point and so i think

01:27:26.020 that as we're as we're thinking through these issues we're thinking about the fight that's

01:27:30.100 going on on the right there's a couple impulses you could have number one a lot of christians

01:27:34.140 could go, I'm going to ride my pietistic purity spiral horse off into the sunset. I'm going to

01:27:39.860 be a good dispy. I'm going to wait for the rapture. Hope they all work it out. Or I think maybe what

01:27:45.620 we, this would be my thing. I don't know. We ought to weigh in. This is the time to put the best

01:27:51.060 ideas forward and to be demanding that we treat America as an Anglo-Protestant nation, Brian. 0.60

01:27:58.320 So this is, this is the thing with Vivek too, that I think is important to understand.

01:28:02.580 Why am I saying, like, why am I making fun of Vivek like he's not really even an American?

01:28:06.700 What is he doing when he says, what are the solutions facing America today?

01:28:10.240 He's acting on the interests of India. 0.91

01:28:11.760 He says, let's get more Indians. 0.90

01:28:13.000 In fact, America needs to become more like China and India in their tiger mom and in their whatever, you know, culture. 0.99

01:28:20.440 We actually need to import their culture of work. 0.99

01:28:23.120 Here's the problem. 1.00

01:28:24.060 By the way, horrible cultures.

01:28:26.020 Yeah, he's saying. 0.98

01:28:26.880 They throw poop in the street.

01:28:28.620 This is the sleight of hand.

01:28:30.440 They throw poop in the street.

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01:33:29.040 This is the sleight of hand, though, that's happening. He's arguing for meritocracy,

01:33:33.080 it seems like, which is a deeply American thing. We love meritocracy. We're like,

01:33:38.060 yeah, we want the best ideas to win.

01:33:40.280 We don't want to subsidize bad ideas.

01:33:41.960 We want the best people and we want strength to win.

01:33:44.880 That's a huge part of our American ethos.

01:33:46.700 But he's subversively using this meritocratic instinct

01:33:51.440 by changing the rules of the meritocracy

01:33:54.540 away from what is truly meritorious.

01:33:57.580 He's saying, hey, let's create

01:33:59.460 the kind of absolute wasteland culture

01:34:01.940 where people work themselves to death

01:34:04.340 for the sake of corporate profit 80 to 100 hours a week.

01:34:07.500 that's not a meritorious act that's evil that's bad we should be working like americans have

01:34:14.680 always done to love their families to work hard to build well to sabbath well we're christians 0.67

01:34:20.720 we're not communist chinese so he's importing a communist chinese merit meritocracy and he's

01:34:28.360 subversively overlaying on the american populace instead we need to we need we do need to recognize

01:34:33.320 what CJ Angle did on Twitter in the midst of this conversation. He said, we can recognize

01:34:38.880 Americans in many ways aren't doing well. Like we don't have, our culture is suffering. Our people

01:34:44.700 have lost the will. There are many who've removed themselves from the job market. There are many who

01:34:49.500 have embraced basically apathy. That is 100% true. Why did they do that? They're victims,

01:34:57.580 at least in part, yes, they're responsible, but they're victims of an evil elite who have taught

01:35:04.120 them through all of their institutional power wielded over decades and generations to hate

01:35:09.100 themselves. So the problem isn't import China and communist culture. The problem is kick out all of 0.56

01:35:15.440 the elites who are teaching us to hate ourselves and recover our Anglo-Protestant heritage and

01:35:20.820 learn to love the Lord and love our neighbor again. Yeah, I think that's great. One thing

01:35:24.700 that brought to mind i was reading an article uh recently about the suicide suicide rates in a lot

01:35:30.800 of these asian countries with that kind of work ethic where the young people are like they're like

01:35:35.340 on their 18th week of no days off yeah 100 hours a week and they'll just kill themselves so that's

01:35:41.840 what this thing anti-human leads to i dan i want to ask you about this one of the things that has

01:35:47.340 been so divisive in the christian reform camp but i think it's been kind of a flashpoint for a lot

01:35:54.040 of people is white boy summer and it's funny to me because i think among all things white boy

01:36:00.580 summer is fundamentally saying we actually do have the will to defend and fight for our people

01:36:08.040 and people do not like that so do you see it that way do you see it as um for being you know a couple

01:36:17.240 guys creating memes and videos or whatever it seems like it's creating quite a stir

01:36:22.060 just how you know it is it is creating quite a stir with certain individuals more than others

01:36:28.680 but the way i view white boy summer is actually really simple it's that i love my people and i

01:36:35.060 love my place and i love my history and my heritage and my culture and they just encapsulate

01:36:40.860 it so well in videos in video format and so you watch it and you're listening to music created by

01:36:47.480 my people, you know, and viewing events that have happened, whether it's firefighters saving

01:36:54.140 children from buildings or boxing matches or whatever it is. And you're just like, no,

01:36:59.100 those are my people. I love my people and I love my place. I love my culture. And it'll bring tears

01:37:05.780 to your eyes. That's really what it is. This isn't like some grand white supremacist vision

01:37:13.660 for the future to where you know whites should rule the entire world or some some nonsense like

01:37:20.740 that no those are my people my place my culture and i love it yeah and so i want to enjoy it

01:37:25.900 and i want indians to love india and be i want them to christianize india and if they do they'll

01:37:32.300 stop at each other yeah to repent stop oh my word stop like think about indian culture if you i read

01:37:39.560 a thread recently on X. I can't remember exactly who wrote it, but it was about a guy who'd done

01:37:44.520 a lot of work in India. And I think he was actually an Indian, like he was a native Indian.

01:37:48.360 And he was writing about just how absolutely thoroughgoingly corrupt Indian culture is. 1.00

01:37:56.280 You cannot do business in India without bribery, without like, it's built into the system. They've 1.00

01:38:03.680 actually valorized evil. So what do I want? Like Dan said, man, I want the nations to be converted.

01:38:10.960 I want every family of earth, like the Psalms say, to turn to the Lord. And in a way that doesn't

01:38:16.020 destroy nature, but perfects it, I want to see India confess Christ and begin the long uphill

01:38:24.680 battle, just like it was for the Germanic pagans that converted to centuries and centuries. I want 1.00

01:38:30.820 them to become a glory and climb the pinnacle to the pinnacle of their culture yeah and so and

01:38:38.400 the thing is and people say that we're racists well like no no i'm not going to go on another

01:38:45.700 rant that was i just decided that i wasn't going to go on another rant and i'd like to now turn 0.92

01:38:49.840 the mic over to eric well see the thing is i actually i really sympathize with the zoomers 0.99

01:38:54.600 because you had talked about asian culture and and how how competitive it is and how they don't 1.00

01:38:59.680 get days off and things like that. I look at the zoomers right now and I saw a Twitter thread the 0.63

01:39:04.780 other day. It was like, tell me about your experience zoomers. Like what's your life like?

01:39:09.160 And they're like, I was promised that if I worked hard and I got good grades and I was diligent

01:39:14.360 that I would, I would be successful. Right. And they're like, I got a 3.8, uh, GPA and a STEM,

01:39:20.960 um, you know, degree. And I've been six months out of college and I can't find a job and I can't

01:39:27.960 find an apartment and i'm renting a single room uh in a house for 1500 a month and i don't see 0.66

01:39:34.820 any way that i'm ever going to be able to buy a house and it's i i mean you look at the zoomer 0.97

01:39:40.360 experience right now and they've made it into a asian sort of experience what is that what are

01:39:49.000 these kids going to have to do these young men in order to provide unlimited streaming services dan

01:39:55.200 Well, I do – I want to point something out here that I think is important in this conversation because it's one of the plays that you often see people on the – allegedly on the right and in the Christian world will say.

01:40:06.440 And it's stuff – you know, Joel Berry does this constantly where he's like, men have a lot of things to fuss about.

01:40:11.620 Can we just – by the way, when Joel Berry, he's mentioned, maybe Martin can just like vomit sound.

01:40:16.740 Can you play – no, play a wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.

01:40:20.640 Okay, anyway, thank you, future Martin.

01:40:22.240 Sorry, sorry to threw it in.

01:40:22.960 No, he said something like, you know, men have a lot to fuss about, but they're not

01:40:25.240 allowed to fuss.

01:40:25.740 And I'm like, well, yeah, yeah, sure.

01:40:27.460 Like fussing doesn't fix things.

01:40:29.000 But here's the problem.

01:40:32.480 Anybody who would lose the woke Olympics, so if you're white, if you're Christian, if 0.97

01:40:37.700 you're male, if you're, you know, a normal sexual person and not a total pervert, like 0.51

01:40:42.200 if you're any of those things that would lose the woke DEI Olympics, then anything you do

01:40:47.920 to point out a way that you're being victimized by elites is fussing.

01:40:53.640 Now, anything that someone who would win the DEI Olympics, 0.50

01:40:56.760 if they're black or Pacific Islander and obese and, you know, 1.00

01:41:02.300 female and some sexual perverted thing, 0.98

01:41:05.560 then they're being, they're speaking, you know, whatever to power. 0.86

01:41:10.480 They're speaking strength to power.

01:41:11.740 Right.

01:41:12.200 Right.

01:41:12.540 So we need to stop doing this where when,

01:41:15.000 because that is just another expression of the discipleship of our culture to be its own in

01:41:19.320 groups out group then anytime we point out ways in which hey like in china tiktok the government

01:41:25.860 controls tiktok so that it produces pro-nationalism pro-china you know healthy content like they've

01:41:33.000 actually tuned the tiktok algorithm in china so that it like enculturates them in a positive thing 0.70

01:41:38.380 but then the chinese company that owns it in america it's tuned to basically sexual degeneracy 0.89

01:41:43.700 yeah like all of the worst things ever and uh if if a white person like myself looks and says 0.92

01:41:50.020 you know that seems evil we should stop letting them do that stop whining brian quit fussing 0.96

01:41:56.840 you fuss bucket you patriarchal but you're not a real man real men never fuss and you're like 0.99

01:42:04.060 are you retarded you're probably gonna have to bleep that out and never redo that yes they are 1.00

01:42:09.180 let me read you that are you an idiot yes narrator says yes the answer is yes like well i think a big 1.00

01:42:17.020 part of it too is uh joel berry's uh insert gag sound um they function in a lot of ways of just 1.00

01:42:23.880 cultural discouragement like that's fundamentally what they are like gash muse sandblots they're

01:42:30.480 there just to discourage you and i think part of this brian to your point we've called it jesus

01:42:34.840 juking in the past but if you were to say recognize a real thing like wow there's a lot of 0.60

01:42:40.000 jewish people who control the media then they would go oh what's in your heart yeah wait a second 0.53

01:42:45.280 what what's in your heart are is that sulfur i smell i'm like no i just like are we are we allowed

01:42:51.760 or are we not to say we want our culture to obey the lord and serve its people well and there are

01:42:58.740 many wicked subversives who are honestly a small percentage of the populace who are, they are

01:43:06.220 elites. They're institutions. Like we said, they've captured institutions where power for culture,

01:43:11.760 creation, and maintenance is gatekept. And they've, they've subverted those tiny percentage.

01:43:17.620 So when you're saying like, Hey, we've noticed that, um, a lot of the subversion in Hollywood 0.99

01:43:22.880 is, you know, it's very Jewish. What's up? What's up with that? And they produce garbage 0.99

01:43:26.640 I haven't made a good movie in decades. 0.99

01:43:28.740 That too. 0.98

01:43:29.120 But people will be like, so you hate all Jewish people.

01:43:32.420 And you're like, I actually don't even think that all Jewish people are in on that.

01:43:35.900 That's not the point we're making. 0.99

01:43:37.340 Right.

01:43:37.740 It's not like we're talking about a coherent view of what has happened to our culture and recognizing that reality is one of the first steps to actually addressing it.

01:43:48.000 If you continue to play by the narrative that you're allowed to have, guess who came up with what narrative you're allowed to believe?

01:43:55.540 Yeah.

01:43:56.640 the evil subversive people concentrated in elite institutions of culture making and it's the same

01:44:02.600 play right again the when you do something like masculinity i've been doing that since about 2020

01:44:08.820 with hard men podcast people will say things like well masculinity isn't and then they just list all

01:44:15.480 the actual physical characteristics of masculinity it's not about being strong it's not about being

01:44:20.760 chopping wood it's not being a warrior or protector it's not about any of those things

01:44:24.960 And then they reduce it to this spiritual mush of, you know, real men.

01:44:30.020 And then the list they give is like, real men pray to Jesus, real men.

01:44:32.920 And the whole list is like a woman could do it.

01:44:35.440 Anyone could do it. 0.92

01:44:36.480 It's not distinct to masculinity at all.

01:44:38.440 Is my wife being masculine when she prays?

01:44:40.620 It's what is happening?

01:44:41.820 I thought that praying was something both men and women do and wasn't really primarily related to the characteristics of sexed piety.

01:44:48.340 But then you'll get the same thing with, say, like, white European Anglo-Protestant culture where we say, like, hey, I am actually proud to be Anglo-Protestant Christian.

01:44:57.680 That means a lot to me.

01:44:58.660 I love my people and my fathers.

01:45:00.560 And then what they'll say to you, you hear this play, especially in Reformed Christian circles, the play will go like this. 0.65

01:45:07.260 Well, I mean, whiteness is just a melanin count.

01:45:10.880 Like that's – it's just melanin.

01:45:12.700 It means nothing.

01:45:13.320 And we're like, yeah, that's what we meant when we said that we loved, like, our history of Anglo-Protestantism.

01:45:18.900 Just arbitrary lovers of melanin.

01:45:21.000 That's all that was meant, really.

01:45:22.240 Yes, the reduction to make it sound like your position is absurd.

01:45:26.220 And so I think, this is my thesis, I think that one of the key functions of the King's Hall podcast, just like many other, you know, reading Pat Buchanan's Death of the West,

01:45:35.620 one of the key functions of this show is to inspire people to have a will to fight for

01:45:42.660 love and build for their people let's flip and go let's go yeah we're just trying to restore the

01:45:47.880 will yeah just the will if we could if we could fix one thing in in this you know moment that

01:45:54.840 would be the thing that i would pick because a lot of people understand many of the problems

01:45:59.720 but they're too fearful they're too scared to address them they don't have the will they're

01:46:03.860 too worried about um being canceled they're too worried about being mobbed they're too worried

01:46:08.680 that they're going because they've embraced and internalized all of these these universalist

01:46:13.260 globalist lies yeah so we need we need to fix that we need to say yes it is a good thing to

01:46:20.440 want to say america first politically speaking and we're going to pursue the earthy and heavenly

01:46:26.160 good of america and it's going to require us to undo many of the things that have um assaulted

01:46:32.080 and subverted America away from her true,

01:46:36.540 even historical glory.

01:46:38.260 Want to return there?

01:46:39.800 Yeah, I think that's great.

01:46:41.220 Maybe we'll close with this,

01:46:42.360 just kind of some practical application

01:46:44.620 pulling from, again, David Green's article.

01:46:47.700 But he says there's really two things.

01:46:49.660 If you don't control the media

01:46:51.180 and you don't control education

01:46:53.080 and you have no, well, I'm adding a third thing.

01:46:56.820 You need elites who are on your side.

01:46:59.440 So when you start thinking about these things,

01:47:01.580 But yes, some of us are in kind of this Gideon position, Lord willing, where it's like, we may be really small.

01:47:08.280 We're a small media company, but we need Christian media, like not quasi-Christian, not Christian post-1980, like historic reform Protestant Christian media.

01:47:21.300 Okay, so we need that.

01:47:22.820 We need education.

01:47:24.100 We're doing what we can in our own place, and many people have to do this as well to educate our children.

01:47:30.180 I mean, how much more based are the kids of St. Brennan's than what we grew up with?

01:47:35.680 I fear for the world, actually.

01:47:37.040 We actually can't even give examples because they're so based.

01:47:43.780 They scare me. 0.98

01:47:45.360 We would be removed from Buzzsprout.

01:47:47.860 Yeah, we're actually like, you know, we're like sitting up down and saying, you know, now there's a time and a place.

01:47:53.520 but the third one i think that we have to be cultivating working on this is really part of

01:47:59.840 our aim with conferences i think moving forward is uh building coalition meeting with guys who

01:48:05.860 can form part of the new elite we need a new elite uh christopher lash's book i think was

01:48:11.200 really good the revolt of the elites our elites in america for a long time have betrayed us

01:48:15.080 they have sold us out like the scottish nobility and so one of the things we're going to have to

01:48:19.500 do is cultivate a new elite. And I would just encourage people, no matter how small you think 0.99

01:48:26.240 some of these people are, or maybe you yourself are, just fighting the fight, getting out there

01:48:31.100 with your ideas, being in a righteous Christian way obstinate for the truth. You matter. People

01:48:39.340 matter. You really do matter. They want you to think that you're powerless and that you're alone

01:48:45.600 and that you can do nothing to stem the tide

01:48:48.200 that you are going to lose inevitably.

01:48:50.840 Their worst fear is for even a small percentage

01:48:53.800 of people to say, no, we're not.

01:48:56.380 Yeah, and I think that should be hopeful 0.90

01:48:57.420 with the H-1B thing.

01:48:59.520 I mean, Elon Musk,

01:49:00.700 he looked like he was in panic mode on X

01:49:02.920 when that went down

01:49:03.720 because it was not favorable toward their camp.

01:49:07.120 I think there's a good hopeful future

01:49:09.180 for the dissident, right?

01:49:10.840 But we've just got to keep working on mainstreaming

01:49:14.060 what should be common sense positions.

01:49:17.400 Also, I think finding ways to talk about them may be my final thing,

01:49:21.820 but there's a group of people on the distant right who are like trying to say

01:49:25.940 it in the most transgressive, like offensive way possible.

01:49:29.880 And I think one of the ways that you lead a lot of the middle of the country,

01:49:33.340 a lot of the normies is you've got to do it in a way that is,

01:49:38.620 first of all, Christian.

01:49:40.080 You have to be Christian in your speech,

01:49:41.820 But this is why we're talking about things like Heritage America.

01:49:44.800 Like, you've got to talk about it in a way that people, number one, understand but can identify with.

01:49:50.080 And not finding, like, the most repulsive ways to say it in a way that would offend 99% of Americans unnecessarily.

01:49:58.080 This is one of the reasons why in the conference, like, one of the big themes we're hoping to really highlight is American Christian greatness.

01:50:07.340 Yes.

01:50:07.640 our forefathers, the best of us to say, look to these men, this is, this is our stock.

01:50:14.140 Like, and, and, and let's, let's aspire to their greatness because we have them. We have them in

01:50:21.140 spades in our history. And we ought to be, and many of them have been blackened by the lies of

01:50:28.900 knaves. And we need to go, we need to say, no, that's where we're going to like what we've been

01:50:33.400 doing with the crusades and many of these other historical issues. We want to say yes, yes to

01:50:37.320 American Protestant exceptionalism. And here's why. You have the blood of kings. Yeah. So go act 0.53

01:50:44.380 like it. The blood of Normans like Dan Burkholder. One of the other things I think it's really

01:50:49.880 important to cultivate. So positive vision for the future. You matter and your people matter

01:50:55.460 and your generations matter. But one of the best ways to protect that is to adopt a warrior-like

01:51:00.940 attitude and spirit. You use Gideon as an example. Well, Gideon gets his army. They go to drink and

01:51:06.960 God's going to reduce his army, right? And he winnows out by the guys who are drinking like

01:51:12.640 a dog, right? They don't have their eyes up. Those are the guys that are just kind of satisfied.

01:51:17.900 Like I'm one of the crew, you know, I'm me and my, my bros, you know, on the dissident, right?

01:51:23.600 We're all in this together. And God ends up picking the guys who keep their eyes on the horizon,

01:51:28.100 who cup the water and they keep their eyes up on the horizon. And you need to adopt that sort

01:51:32.660 of attitude in this political landscape and in this cultural landscape because the thing you're 1.00

01:51:37.740 watching out for are subversives because they're going to come from everywhere because people are

01:51:43.320 actually scared yeah the left is scared right now and you need to watch for subversives you need to

01:51:49.580 watch for people who are trying to get as close as possible to the leftist agenda and to co-opt it

01:51:55.220 to bring it into the dissident right yes to try to guilt yeah they steer they undermine they gut

01:52:02.640 they will come from within and try to ruin a movement so you need to keep your eyes up

01:52:08.800 yeah subversives don't conquer by power they conquer by steering so that's gramsian marxism 0.70

01:52:13.420 they can't they conquer by capturing the elite institutions culture making gatekeeping and they 0.74

01:52:17.020 steer them um with a like acceptable discourse here's where we're going and and this is what

01:52:22.220 like it's very important that we have this courageous like that we maintain courage in

01:52:26.380 these things because you know take jd vance for example hope you know could be the future of

01:52:30.560 the conservative movement there's a great possibility um and i think that he's actually

01:52:35.860 more buchananite than than trump i think like that's pretty beyond dispute he's recently even

01:52:44.660 in an interview i saw him say like i've learned my lesson about speaking for president trump

01:52:48.360 he's trying to be careful about when he answers a question because jd vance is clearly like a

01:52:54.120 thinking guy and he's a principled kind of guy from from what i gather and see of him and read

01:53:00.120 of him um so he's he's more instinctually like a non-political and he'll just give the answer he

01:53:06.520 thinks is actually the principled answer it's gotten him into trouble because he ends up not

01:53:10.840 playing to some of trump's more problematic political instincts but it gives me hope

01:53:17.380 that even if we can maintain even if it's a minority saying absolutely no to vivek we're

01:53:23.860 not going you know ramadam swani we're not going that way absolutely no we're not going to you

01:53:28.900 You know, Shiva, Vivek, Ramakin, you know, Indian Shiva, you know, dot, dot.

01:53:34.640 We're not going that direction.

01:53:35.760 I think it can embolden men, even maybe who are biding their time in the party and in some of the elite institutions to say, over time, we want – steering is a not weather but which.

01:53:48.140 Someone's going to steer.

01:53:49.340 We just don't want subversives, but we do want to steer.

01:53:52.240 right so i think if keep part of keeping our eyes on the horizon is thinking in that long term like

01:53:57.680 maybe not tomorrow but maybe in four years maybe in eight years like maybe we can get there if we

01:54:04.740 maintain courage and keep our eyes pointed forward yeah so be aware of topics that you're

01:54:10.660 not allowed to speak to or framing that ends up being manipulative especially um you know

01:54:18.140 trying to steer you with uh sort of emotional manipulation and and a lot of a lot of the way

01:54:24.660 steering happens is you know maybe there's people in your movement and you know you you get a phone

01:54:30.580 call and it's like hey you got to stay away from x y and z hey don't support this guy hey make sure

01:54:35.540 that you you know signal the right way on this issue um and so anybody who ends up being some

01:54:42.060 sort of a network node or somebody who's rising in a movement um is prone to that people are going

01:54:47.760 to make phone calls. People are going to try to dox you. And I think this is why it's so important

01:54:53.060 for guys in our camp. First of all, do the reading, like be convicted about what your

01:54:58.540 principles actually are. Don't be just simply a ladder climber because there are a lot of guys

01:55:06.000 who will come up and they'll adapt their position to whatever's hot at the moment. And just know,

01:55:11.100 I think for our camp, like we didn't get to our positions because we, you know, wetted our finger

01:55:16.060 and we're checking the wind you know it's like the wind call on masculinity in 2020 was you know

01:55:22.580 i asked us like several people it had a lisp and i was like hey what do you think about this and 0.99

01:55:27.680 they were like we hate it it's stupid you should never do it you are one of the most inflammatory 0.92

01:55:31.940 people that i've ever met and i was like okay great full send i think that's what that means 0.99

01:55:36.020 what i heard what i heard was leroy jenkins what i heard was you're one of the better men for the

01:55:42.660 job just do it there was a twinkle in their eye when they said it and and when when they asked

01:55:47.820 like what do you think about the name the hard men podcast and you know we said that sounds really

01:55:51.520 homoerotic like maybe pick something different but there was a twinkle in their eye there was

01:55:55.060 a twinkle in their eye that said but it got their attention yeah uh-huh uh-huh it's like

01:55:59.580 my favorite little do they know like this is kind of funny but you know i was actually reading books

01:56:05.160 on rhodesia yeah it was the book a handful of hard handful of hard men i was like dude perfect

01:56:08.920 yeah this is so it actually isn't homoerotic like i'm all of the reviewers who are disappointed in

01:56:14.220 eric's podcast they give it one star reviews they're like one star not what i expected

01:56:17.940 and the people who are offended by it it's like you don't even know

01:56:22.960 just know i'm holding back uh dan would you close us down in the most anglo-protestant 0.55

01:56:32.340 pro-norwegian pro-lining kugels you're like in your blood you're a liney which german right

01:56:40.540 they were german they were german are you like the summer shandy don't have you're like sweet

01:56:45.640 a little citrusy a little bitter do they have a bitter they have like a really bitter one

01:56:49.860 i'm sure they have ipas okay so you're like an ipa i'm just kidding just super bitter bitter yeah

01:56:56.660 So you want, okay. 0.99

01:56:57.680 I was going to make an estrogenics joke, but I want my people, Norwegian white people, 0.91

01:57:05.240 especially those are my people anyway.

01:57:09.540 No, here's what I want you guys to just really think through is that in this time, it's really

01:57:15.340 easy to be discouraged because even the people that are on the right don't seem to be for

01:57:20.260 you at times, as a main example by Elon Musk and Ramoswami. I don't want you to be discouraged,

01:57:28.400 but know that the Lord, he is in the heavens and he laughs at all of these different maneuvers from

01:57:34.040 the enemy, trying to suppress the gospel and his church and your families and his people.

01:57:39.960 And so I don't want you to be discouraged, but instead to cultivate a positive vision for the

01:57:44.360 future, don't become discouraged, but be positive and to continue to fight, to do the reading,

01:57:51.280 to lead your family well, to do your duties. Do not raise your eyes too high, or there's nothing

01:57:56.440 you can do about world powers or global dominion or the world economic forum, but instead to look

01:58:03.540 in front of your feet and do the duties that God has given you to do. And so with that,

01:58:07.680 Festi-len-ente?

01:58:11.040 Festival-lentil.

01:58:12.320 Oh, my word.

01:58:13.480 It's actually Festival-lentil, yeah.

01:58:15.580 And so with that, Festi-len-ente.

01:58:18.540 Festi-len-ente?

01:58:20.340 It's a Norwegian term.

01:58:23.260 Have a good day.

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The King's Hall - January 17, 2025

America for Americans： Why Unfettered Immigration, a Globalist Economy, and the H-1B Are Destroying Our Nation

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