The King's Hall - The Shocking History of the Birth Control Pill - W⧸ Dr. Austin Lake

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00:00:24.340 there's perhaps no better picture of the church's impotence under mass feminization 1.00

00:00:30.520 than the collapse of the birth rate as feminists decried the evils of children and marriage 1.00

00:00:35.900 so too the church bought into the same brand of lies and stopped reproducing but it wasn't always

00:00:41.740 so even as recently as a century ago evangelical protestants waged an aggressive war against the

00:00:48.580 practice of birth control in the United States. They led the charge, starting in 1873, to build a

00:00:54.900 series of state and federal laws that equated contraception to abortion, suppressed the spread

00:01:00.480 of birth control information and devices, and even criminalized the use of contraceptives.

00:01:06.180 Evangelicals tried to jail birth control crusaders like Margaret Sanger. And yet, by 1973,

00:01:13.460 evangelical leaders had given their blessing to birth control, and many would quietly welcome

00:01:18.520 the decision from Roe v. Wade. The church went from fervent foes to friends of a movement that

00:01:24.880 sought to sterilize American families and stir up fears about overpopulation. Ultimately,

00:01:31.560 evangelicals bowed to the dominant antinatalist secular culture. Pastors, seeking to appease the

00:01:38.300 feminists in their midst, failed to teach on the blessing of children or the command to seek them,

00:01:43.560 Genesis 128. The result today is that many churches are filled with families proudly bearing

00:01:49.720 the dual income, no kids or dinks label, or with career women without families and even fornicating

00:01:56.620 singles, none of whom the pastor is willing to confront. Unsurprisingly, pornography addiction

00:02:02.880 is rampant in the same churches, and the church is only marginally more fruitful than the

00:02:07.920 unbelievers surrounding her. The Christian fertility rate in the U.S. today is 2.2 children 0.98

00:02:12.760 per woman, while the religiously unaffiliated fertility rate is 1.8. In 1950, at the height of

00:02:19.320 the baby boom, the overall fertility rate was 3.15 children per woman, with Catholics at four

00:02:25.600 children per woman and non-Catholics at three. Sadly, with the rise of the birth control pill

00:02:31.720 and abortion, the church has accepted many feminist, anti-family teachings and done little

00:02:37.520 to combat America's antinatalist culture. Marriage rates, divorce rates, and unwed mothers have also

00:02:44.580 trended in negative directions. Speaking of Margaret Sanger, her father, Michael Higgins,

00:02:50.360 was a Civil War veteran and socialist who engaged in radical political activities. Most of all,

00:02:56.480 he hated the Roman Catholic Church and the economic establishment in America, which he saw 0.50

00:03:01.760 as part of the same evil hierarchy.

00:03:04.600 The church was, after all,

00:03:06.120 extremely favorable toward procreation 0.67

00:03:08.500 and taught for centuries that procreation and sex

00:03:11.360 were inextricably linked.

00:03:12.780 What a radical idea.

00:03:14.360 Margaret would later say that her father's radicalism

00:03:17.400 was, quote, the spring from which she drank, end quote,

00:03:21.500 and modeled her life after his.

00:03:23.780 When her mother died of tuberculosis,

00:03:26.240 Sanger blamed her 18 pregnancies and squalid conditions.

00:03:29.400 She did not, however, blame her father, who seldom held down a job and did more talking than working.

00:03:36.900 In 1915, Sanger's daughter died.

00:03:39.740 In a desperate bid to contact her spirit, Sanger embraced occultic rituals through which she believed that she could speak to her daughter.

00:03:47.600 Her newfound Gnostic spiritualism blended with Darwinian evolutionary theory,

00:03:52.560 which led her to believe that freeing those in impoverished conditions meant helping them prevent pregnancies,

00:03:58.620 a root of all evil according to her, or even murder children in the womb. And so she coined

00:04:03.680 the term birth control, which she saw as a cure-all for society's ills, including the

00:04:09.660 population bomb myth that she constantly promoted. She would open her first clinic in 1916 in Brooklyn,

00:04:16.880 New York, which would later be known as Planned Parenthood. Fast forward to the 1950s and Dr.

00:04:22.940 Gregory Pincus. He worked tirelessly with Dr. John Rock, a gynecologist, to develop a synthetic

00:04:29.840 progestin-based pill, thanks to the philanthropic support of Catherine Dexter McCormick. And finally,

00:04:36.740 in 1960, the FDA approved, in NOVID, the first oral contraception pill for mass public consumption.

00:04:44.680 Since then, several hundred million women worldwide have used the pill, which not only changed

00:04:50.140 western christendom forever but helped fuel the sexual revolution but all wasn't as well and good

00:04:56.440 as it seemed not only were there societal costs like the breakup of the household and plummeting

00:05:01.900 rates of marriage but women's health also suffered serious setbacks first generation contraception

00:05:07.920 pills had high levels of estrogen and progestin which led to blood clots and other severe side 0.85

00:05:13.560 effects and while the pill has been refined new various forms since even modern feminists have

00:05:19.400 pointed out just how disruptive it is for a woman's natural reproductive system and overall 1.00

00:05:25.140 hormone health. Various rates of cancers have skyrocketed. As it turns out, the cost of free

00:05:31.280 love was far more expensive than Sanger or the pill's earliest proponents led on. In this episode

00:05:38.060 of the King's Hall podcast, we're joined by Dr. Austin Lake to talk about how the pill has affected

00:05:43.740 women's health in america the king's hall podcast exists to make self-ruled men who rule well and

00:05:50.320 win the world well welcome to this episode of the king's hall podcast i'm your host eric khan

00:05:59.940 joined today by the ever dashing brian sauve thanks for that eric co-host sidekick guy who

00:06:07.880 I understand that you understand a lot about elephant and crocodile.

00:06:11.980 Oh, gosh.

00:06:12.560 All right.

00:06:13.240 I'm just saying you do.

00:06:14.960 That's called foreshadowing.

00:06:16.160 Yeah.

00:06:16.720 And I apologize in advance for everything related to that topic, if and when it comes up.

00:06:21.520 You have to have a good hook.

00:06:23.200 And that is one.

00:06:24.380 That's a good hook.

00:06:25.080 The only new.

00:06:26.260 Yes.

00:06:26.840 Speaking of which, good hooks.

00:06:28.900 We have Dr. Austin Lake joining us in studio.

00:06:32.840 Welcome to the show.

00:06:33.760 Thanks for having me.

00:06:35.040 I've followed you for years on Instagram.

00:06:37.880 uh for for people who want to check that out what is your handle uh dr.austin.lake dr.austin.lake

00:06:44.460 simple you've got a lot of spicy content sometimes yeah uh it drives people wild but

00:06:50.540 what are we doing what are we doing we're trying to get the hooks in early

00:07:00.320 doctor he's a medical doctor i know you made it sound like you made it sound like he's selling

00:07:06.100 subscriptions or taking my shirt off yeah like i gotta get people to go check out his feed i

00:07:12.000 appreciate that it's yeah disappointed after hearing that yeah no that's it's great uh but

00:07:17.340 i do actually want to hear from you a little bit about your background what kind of medicine do you

00:07:21.920 do why is it driving people wild i don't know that it drives people wild but um so i i do

00:07:30.020 functional medicine it's more of a holistic practice i don't prescribe medications or do

00:07:34.280 surgery um so that's what some people call me like a fake doctor you know because i don't do

00:07:39.020 that stuff but i i think it's actually helped me in my career because i've i've had to get so

00:07:44.080 creative on how i help people solve problems because i can't just give them a pill or do

00:07:47.860 surgery so it's always like investigating their issues and all that kind of stuff so functional

00:07:51.380 medicine is more of a holistic whole systems approach to solving a health problem is really

00:07:55.860 what it's about and how did you how did you get into that out of necessity i mean i had my own

00:08:00.460 health problems um so i got so i i had like an exercise physiology background and then got my

00:08:04.980 doctorate in physical therapy and then i was still having a bunch of health problems and wasn't able

00:08:08.540 to solve them and so then i did three more years of functional medicine and kind of figured out

00:08:12.960 like oh like this is bringing all these pieces together to where it actually made sense for me

00:08:16.840 and how to fix my chronic pain and fatigue uh had some issues with like stomach ulcers and

00:08:22.440 referral pain in my back and just felt terrible in my twenties. And so I really didn't know what

00:08:26.400 to do. And so conventional medicine was failing me. And then through functional medicine figured

00:08:31.080 out like, Oh, I can fix myself. And then I can also help other people do the same thing.

00:08:34.680 Yeah. It seems like post COVID to a lot of people started taking that more seriously.

00:08:39.960 I remember for years, like Brian, your wife, people would talk about, you know, vaccines and

00:08:45.360 stuff like that and rates of autism and stuff like that. And I always thought, Oh, this is

00:08:49.840 quackery. You know, this is crazy. Uh, but that was kind of an eyeopening time period, I think

00:08:55.120 for people to realize, yeah, like, you know, I'm going to go on a limb here. Maybe the medical

00:09:01.180 industry is not batting a thousand. And so, yeah, you start thinking about alternate ways to heal

00:09:08.800 the body, be healthy overall. It's also interesting though, because a lot of doctors that I've talked

00:09:13.860 to uh in just general practice like they've even said hey we go through med school and we don't get

00:09:20.160 like a single course on like nutrition no so they they don't even understand a lot of them like

00:09:25.260 basic how to make a a human a healthy person right and i think again it's when you this is

00:09:30.940 kind of leading into what we want to talk about later with uh how that system got set up but it's

00:09:35.160 it's not it's not by accident like that's by intentional design um to and this is where i

00:09:40.720 I want to say this up front, like doctors don't like have a nefarious objective with most doctors,

00:09:46.120 at least don't have that. They just are doing what they think is best and what they've been

00:09:48.860 trained to do. And so we're always trained, like my, my buddy who's an MD and like I was trained,

00:09:53.920 like we're always trying to think that like, if I don't know it, then nobody knows it or it's not

00:09:56.840 legitimate. Right. And so that's where the whole quackery idea came from was from the early 1900s.

00:10:00.900 And so for us walking through healthcare and trying to help people, we're literally thinking

00:10:05.460 that what we're doing is best. Um, but the reality is you're trained in a pharmacological system that

00:10:11.380 is literally just trying to cover up symptoms and kick people out the door. Yeah. Uh, one of the

00:10:17.260 things that's interesting, uh, you do a lot with women's health. Um, I I've talked to functional

00:10:22.660 doctors too, and they've said, you know, women's health is, it's just far more tricky than men.

00:10:26.900 Yeah, it's tough. Um, because of all the reproductive stuff going on, we'll get into

00:10:30.940 that with the pill in just a minute but what made you get into wanting to help women to regain lost

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00:13:00.980 I mean, it was, so my background,

00:13:03.420 my mom had a bunch of health issues.

00:13:05.120 My brother had cancer.

00:13:06.260 We were actually out here in Utah when he got diagnosed.

00:13:08.720 We were living in Iowa.

00:13:09.840 My dad got a job out here in Utah.

00:13:11.520 um it was like i lived in a little town and you know that 900 people and moved out here got my

00:13:17.700 bike stolen the first week you know in salt lake west valley city actually and um just like man

00:13:22.320 this place sucks you know and um but the crazy thing was is that we were here for probably like

00:13:27.560 three or four months and brother gets diagnosed with cancer uh turns out the physician that was 0.97

00:13:33.640 treating him his oncologist was like the top specialist in that type of childhood leukemia

00:13:37.700 and like basically was able to help save him in a way and so i owe a lot of credit to to him even

00:13:43.180 though they use you know radiation and chemo all that different stuff like it you know nearly killed

00:13:47.020 him it did take away the cancer so it's like there's this like you have to kind of use this

00:13:51.760 integrated approach when you're approaching these things sometimes but uh so that kind of got me

00:13:55.800 initially interested in health care um but through that my mom and my dad they started developing

00:14:00.240 their own health issues because it was just a lot of stress and financial burden yeah all that stuff

00:14:04.600 So dad had multiple heart attacks when he was like 42 years old and then in his 50s.

00:14:09.740 And he recently just got a heart transplant, actually, because he was congestive heart failure, stage four for three years.

00:14:16.460 So he got a new heart, which has been great.

00:14:19.860 But my mom, she has an autoimmune disorder, nearly died during all that time period.

00:14:24.140 So I just kind of saw like what happened when my mom's health wasn't going well, like it really affected the whole family.

00:14:29.560 and it really made me kind of just not want other people have to go through that you know because

00:14:35.180 the mom i think in the household it's like when you're talking about cooking like good home-cooked

00:14:38.940 meals like providing a sense of like comfort in the home you know a mother does a lot for for that

00:14:44.360 for the family and i think uh when that was taken away i experienced just how much of an impact she

00:14:48.820 had on our family when she was wasn't able to participate and so uh i really started to see 0.95

00:14:53.880 through the lens of how can i help women not go through that when women are using most of the

00:14:58.300 health care dollars in the united states and we're using about 80 90 percent of the health

00:15:01.740 really oh yeah wow i did not know that i didn't know that either yeah and women also have about

00:15:06.040 they have about um 80 of all autoimmune disorders are attributed to women um is that on the increase

00:15:12.020 by the way the autoimmune stuff because i feel like we've talked about this in the church even

00:15:16.100 pastoring people because it really gets into pastoral care when when you're talking about 0.84

00:15:21.140 like okay don't be a naggy wife you know be respectable be respectful in the home all that 1.00

00:15:26.360 stuff but you do have to address the physical yeah right and so we have just seen like steep 1.00

00:15:32.120 inclining rates it seems like almost every other person has some sort of weird autoimmune thing

00:15:37.980 going on well autoimmune issues are so you and people i listen to people i respect they also

00:15:44.020 say the same thing but you'll never convince me that somebody has more than one autoimmune disorder

00:15:47.740 what you have is the autoimmune disorder affects different organs and it shows up as a different

00:15:52.020 diagnosis but the autoimmune root cause is usually something that's coming from your gut typically

00:15:57.580 and so when you have a gut um that basically if you imagine like a big tube from your mouth to

00:16:02.560 your butt like it's like your intestinal tract is trying to keep that outside world from getting

00:16:06.600 inside your body whenever you have that gut breakdown which is leaky gut people are familiar 0.99

00:16:10.980 with that term more often now than it used to be you're just allowing for you know heavy metals or

00:16:15.760 pathogens or fungi or whatever to come into your bloodstream and basically trigger immune system

00:16:20.420 response and so when you have high stress or you rely on acetaminophen or tylenol or antibiotics

00:16:26.920 or you eat an ultra processed diet it's just breaking down your diet or your gut tract

00:16:31.600 constantly so it just makes you more susceptible to the outside world on the inside so you're more

00:16:36.840 prone to having self-attack which is autoimmune disorders which is your immune system's attacking

00:16:41.600 tissue but the encouraging thing is like your body's not broken in that your immune system

00:16:46.020 is actually going after things that needs to get out within your tissues and so if you have

00:16:49.240 Hashimoto's which is a thyroid autoimmune disorder usually there's heavy metals like mercury or

00:16:53.760 aluminum that your immune system is actually identifying and then targeting it and trying

00:16:58.140 to attack it and get rid of it so then you have a the subsequent reaction of oh now my thyroid's

00:17:02.560 not functioning as well I guess I need thyroid medication but if you don't deal with the actual

00:17:06.100 source of the problem you just kind of need more and more medication you never get ahead of it

00:17:10.500 do you think a lot of the gut health stuff for women or men but like is this environmental is it

00:17:16.760 um highly processed food like because it's again it seems like this stuff has gotten a lot worse

00:17:22.300 yeah i mean covid didn't help i mean the covid vaccine didn't help that was anyone who got the

00:17:26.620 covid vaccine um if they got the full dosage of it which they're now finding out that not everyone

00:17:30.940 got the same dose with of the covid vaccine it was no that i've talked to doctors who said that

00:17:35.260 like basically they were they're running like you were the guinea pig totally so some people were

00:17:40.080 like i didn't have any symptoms you might have got a placebo yeah it's yeah that's been confirmed

00:17:44.520 So if you have people that were, you know, getting the full dose and there's, this is a whole rabbit, you know, rabbit hole on this one.

00:17:51.040 But basically what people are identifying is, this is like one of those things.

00:17:56.300 I'm not sure if you guys want to talk about this because I'm not sure if it's good for your channel or not.

00:17:58.880 But there are people like Brian artists out there who says that the code vaccine was no more than snake venom in a injectable form.

00:18:07.780 And so when you look at how the virus was attacking people, it was attacking their central nervous system, much like a snake bite would.

00:18:15.420 And so your ability to take a deep breath is impaired and you have initial blood clotting that can happen and then it can affect your heart.

00:18:21.120 And that's usually what kills people.

00:18:22.740 And so he says that they are dosing people through the vaccine and also through different environmental things like water in our water systems.

00:18:30.620 And they were putting in, you know, different snake venom dosages to kind of affect people.

00:18:34.780 but i think that's still and this has been pretty well established like you can go and watch his

00:18:38.780 documentary watch the water um and he kind of breaks it down very extensively but that's like

00:18:42.800 one theory out there that a lot of people don't talk about that's not mainstream never heard that

00:18:46.880 yeah and um the one thing about it though and i know like you did stuff on haunted cosmos

00:18:52.740 with mk ultra the government would never run experiments on their own they wouldn't do that

00:18:58.260 they don't they don't have a track like you know what was the chemical you know spread over was it

00:19:03.860 like san francisco well there there have been so many yeah there have been so many yeah there's

00:19:09.420 that one there was there are the ticks that they that they've engineered right for weaponized

00:19:15.280 mosquitoes bill gates mosquitoes there was uh even there's a test range not far from here

00:19:22.440 where they accidentally loaded the wrong bio weapon agent onto chemical bio weapon agent onto

00:19:30.380 a plane and they dropped it and then it turned it killed a bunch of sheep it killed a whole herd of

00:19:35.620 sheep is how they even got they wouldn't have we nobody would have known about this if they

00:19:39.140 if that hadn't happened and so people like what happened all my sheep they all died and well it

00:19:43.680 turns out they dropped like i can't remember the exact number but it's some astronomical

00:19:48.320 it could kill the entire population of the world like three times i remember hearing about this

00:19:53.120 if it had been distributed correctly so that's just now out there in utah somewhere and they're

00:19:59.120 like oh no we took care of it it's fine so i think we can conclude that the government wouldn't do

00:20:03.080 that never done is what i'm saying ever i know it does money so all that to say i guess what i'm

00:20:08.580 saying is like the environmental talks and stuff is like that's a huge blanket um impact on your

00:20:14.780 immune system right and so i mean even just the air the air quality itself is is not nearly as

00:20:20.400 good as i mean i have a huge issue with what i think are chemtrails like i think that's a

00:20:24.280 have you have you seen the new research on this though there's been like new articles on this

00:20:28.360 saying that's like the fuel type and stuff like that no but basically it was like there were some

00:20:33.500 leaked documents from the u.s government they were like yeah no that's real they are actually

00:20:37.960 oh yeah i mean i'm yeah i mean yeah we don't tell me so there's just a lot there's like the thing

00:20:42.540 that bothers me is i test heavy metals in people and so you know they're there i i've seen heavy

00:20:47.560 metals that i've never seen before that like um in the last three years have really increased in

00:20:52.080 people's systems like that's where i've like started looking into it was like why is there

00:20:55.500 strontium and cesium in people's blood more than yeah and it wasn't before not that i saw where do

00:21:00.220 you think it's coming from is that environmental i think comes from the sky really yeah i mean i

00:21:05.320 know we're here talking about birth control but like that's hey guys we are we've covered it all

00:21:09.200 so far welcome no i think i think you know a big point about this though is that like when you start

00:21:14.640 talking about health you really have to address the whole yeah enchilada yeah i love enchiladas

00:21:21.080 too yeah they're so good but this is like a bad enchilada well if the water really is making the

00:21:26.580 frogs the water really i mean alex jones vindicated confirmed the interesting and this does tie to the

00:21:31.500 birth control maybe we segue here but it it's the difference between and this is how i think about

00:21:36.700 functional medicine versus your traditional which like you said it's not all or nothing people can

00:21:42.620 get into these like all or nothing fallacies they're there and also can start to think that

00:21:47.700 the doctors at your local hospital are intentionally out to kill you and they're genuinely not right

00:21:52.920 they really are trying to help iatrogenesis literally means from the healer iatrogenic

00:21:58.800 deaths doctors accidentally killing people with their interventions is it's a real like high cause

00:22:04.600 of third cause of death in america right now but so they're not trying to do that it's not all or

00:22:10.500 nothing. But the, the two basic approaches to medicine, I think sheds light on the birth

00:22:17.520 control issue where the one you're treating symptoms with pharmacological interventions,

00:22:22.760 you're basically thinking in terms of symptom response. And the other is thinking of what is

00:22:29.320 the nature of the body? How was it made to function? What is it for? And how can we return

00:22:35.500 it to health by thinking foundationally about the whole system. What are we eating? How are we

00:22:41.840 sleeping? How are we moving our bodies? Are we inside or outside? Like that whole system instead

00:22:48.320 of just, well, doc, I have a pain here. Well, when I put that into my diagnostic system,

00:22:54.820 that says that's likely to be caused by this and this drug will fix it next because I have 18

00:23:00.860 minutes with you right before my next patient comes in. So it sounds like you're coming from

00:23:06.360 this more integrative, uh, functional medicine approach, but also when you think about the birth

00:23:10.760 control pill, what, what better example of this other type of medicine than to look at

00:23:16.160 this vast symphony of hormones and systems that God wove into the female body, which are

00:23:25.320 intricate and glorious and are capable of creating a human being inside of her body yeah 0.61

00:23:31.940 and then we think yeah but what if we semi-permanently fundamentally change that

00:23:37.540 hormonal cascade for this one purpose of disrupting it doing the thing it was made to do

00:23:43.980 and then we'll stop thinking yeah we won't think like oh what would happen if you did that for 10

00:23:49.020 years or 15 years or 20 years yeah what might happen to her body what might happen to cancer

00:23:54.300 rates what might happen to society what might happen to the family they're just thinking

00:23:58.980 problem right pregnancy and they're it's crazy they're turning pregnancy into a medical problem

00:24:04.980 right pharmacological intervention that will fix it so i mean i just ranted for a minute

00:24:12.360 no it's good are we are we speaking the same language here with that yeah absolutely i mean

00:24:17.000 i think um i think with it's just interesting with birth control because that's just one

00:24:21.920 example of many health systems in the body that get disrupted with pharmacological intervention

00:24:26.440 yeah you know like we're talking about birth control because we see the evidence of it pretty

00:24:29.460 clearly within younger populations which if you're an older 65 year old 70 year old who has heart

00:24:34.660 problems you're like well they're going to die anyway right it's like they start having a decline

00:24:38.660 and it's like well they're just getting older but as a 13 year old you see like oh wow like they

00:24:42.720 were functioning as a normal 13 year old now all of a sudden they're having um you know new symptoms

00:24:49.260 that are popping up

00:24:50.060 and they have to have

00:24:50.740 new pharmacological interventions

00:24:52.100 or having increased anxiety and depression.

00:24:54.280 Now they need an antidepressant,

00:24:55.340 which there was a Danish study in 2016,

00:24:57.880 I think that looked at about a thousand young girls

00:25:00.620 who were taking birth control.

00:25:02.440 And there was about 120% increase

00:25:05.040 of first time use of antidepressant medication

00:25:07.320 after using medication.

00:25:09.520 After using birth control.

00:25:10.800 So we know it causes that.

00:25:12.700 I mean, we know that causes disruption 0.95

00:25:13.920 with bone density in women. 0.50

00:25:16.560 We know it causes issues with cancers

00:25:18.400 and certain types of cancers there is some some evidence that will say that it reduces ovarian

00:25:22.000 cancer but most of the times it's going to increase cancer especially estrogen based breast

00:25:26.420 cancer yeah breast cancer but we my wife and i recently looked into this we had some cancer in

00:25:31.340 the family we're like what's what's going on here because we keep seeing this and i was shocked to

00:25:36.080 find how many different factors increase your rate of breast cancer that all were related to

00:25:42.560 the pill. Like if you have children younger and breastfeed them, right. That's highly, uh, it,

00:25:49.960 it, it reduces your breast cancer risk. If you do, if you're on birth control and I'm using

00:25:55.080 grok, you know, heavy mode, whatever it is. And, and, and, you know, it's constantly trying to

00:26:00.120 asterisk it and say, you know, Hey, but then the more you drive at it, like, no, the data shows.

00:26:05.420 Yeah. It's pretty clear. Breast cancer, huge increases with long exposure to these hormonal

00:26:12.060 birth controls well whenever you have uh so i was i mean i was having a similar conversation with

00:26:16.680 some ai um a few days ago and it was i was asking it about um just it said like there was a natural

00:26:23.680 like natural progesterone is not always good versus like synthetic progesterone and i was

00:26:28.420 like well why would natural progesterone not be good and it was like oh good catch

00:26:32.400 and i was like you got me there it's like so they're always it's always just trying to like

00:26:37.400 layer in like well natural is not always good either it's like we you know just i'm just like

00:26:41.420 no, like there is a right way of doing things. Like I just trust that like God's way of creating

00:26:45.620 us is the better way, you know? And like, that's, that's an easy conversation for me to have

00:26:49.960 with myself. So whenever I'm looking at taking something like the birth birth control pill and

00:26:54.740 into context and you look at, okay, you have progesterone, progesterone. If you have natural

00:26:59.860 progesterone production, you're going to be able to maintain that. And your body's going to have

00:27:03.140 this endogenous production that kind of is like a positive feedback loop that kind of says, Hey,

00:27:07.440 this is how much we need this time of the month. Let's continually make that. And then, Oh,

00:27:11.300 it's luteal phase let's increase it oh it's beginning of your phase let's decrease it and

00:27:14.760 it's consistent but if you have something that's taking progesterone where it's synthetic and it's

00:27:18.560 being exogenously dosed now all of a sudden your body's like i don't know what i want to where i

00:27:23.540 am at my phase like what do i need how much do i need so if you get off that there's this constant

00:27:27.280 like detox isn't the right word but like your body has to recalibrate to kind of get back to

00:27:32.120 this normal hormonal production but also what you start seeing the progression with birth control is

00:27:36.880 a lot of women will take when they're younger um then they start developing things like pcos or 0.94

00:27:41.200 endometriosis um down the road and they start having new issues then maybe they want to get 0.98

00:27:45.260 pregnant oh they're infertile can't get pregnant now we need ivf now we have ivf now we're having 0.99

00:27:49.960 too many follicles being stimulated now we have new problems oh now you need a hysterectomy like 0.99

00:27:54.500 and you know ivf is like a 30 billion dollar industry by itself and hysterectomies happen

00:28:00.280 i think the guy who worked on the pill uh that we mentioned i think he was also one of the early

00:28:05.140 really yeah innovators yeah yes yeah so to me it's just like again i'm i don't i'm naturally

00:28:12.760 a conspiracy theorist i think it's it's fun to talk about but these are these are conversations

00:28:17.380 that you don't have to look too far to connect the dots to start seeing like what's happening and

00:28:21.360 if you have a stated global agenda like we want to decrease the population in the world because

00:28:27.460 we have enough we don't have enough resources like what a great way to do it through planned 1.00

00:28:30.720 parenthood where you know we've killed um 19.5 million gen zers from 1997 to 2011 you know and 1.00

00:28:39.400 that's out of 69 million that are still alive so 22 approximately have been killed um that's 0.95

00:28:46.100 actually more than uh cancer heart disease and war combined during that same time period like

00:28:50.760 we've killed more through abortion so to me it's a satanic uh uh objective of of killing and ending

00:28:58.980 life. And, uh, that's really where I think, again, it's not what doctors are thinking necessarily

00:29:03.300 not saying that, but I think that's like the main route of this whole thing is, is that kind of

00:29:08.060 stuff. Yeah. It's interesting. We were talking before the show and this is going to get to

00:29:12.460 crocodile and elephant dung. Um, but there's been a long history actually for thousands of years of

00:29:17.760 contraception. Yeah. Um, we were talking about the Egyptians, um, and some of the methodologies

00:29:23.080 that they would use were quite crazy, uh, to, to our ears. So yeah, I guess just talk a little 0.99

00:29:28.180 bit about that what what was going on yeah this is what i heard i mean i do your own research but

00:29:32.380 they're using crocodile done um vaginally to basically block sperm um so i see that's that's

00:29:38.880 an option i guess i don't know if that's actually that's you're probably better off taking the pill

00:29:43.840 than doing that you heard it here on the case folks if you don't do this yeah don't if you

00:29:48.360 have a if you have access to a crocodile and you're connecting the dots and you're like look

00:29:52.460 the kids have been pretty bad this morning right i don't know if i can handle any more of them

00:29:58.160 just they're a blessing just spank them don't resort to your pet crocodiles no don't do it

00:30:05.200 it is interesting though because you have this long history of you know trying to innovate

00:30:10.340 different contraceptive methods um and the christian church has pretty much always opposed

00:30:16.000 it uh even in egypt it's interesting because the thing that if you read like exodus one and two

00:30:21.620 the reason that the people are blessed they're obeying genesis 128 they're fruitful and they

00:30:26.080 multiplied and so god blesses them eventually brings moses as a deliverer and you have really 0.79

00:30:31.900 the first planned parenthood campaign by pharaoh to go kill all the children good point so it is 0.51

00:30:37.860 interesting that the lord's blessing even in america followed baby boom true uh there was a 0.59

00:30:42.880 lot of economic blessing that came from simply having children but by the time you get to you

00:30:47.760 know the 50s during the development of the birth control pill um it really becomes also a vehicle

00:30:53.320 for much more than simply you know stopping children um it as brian mentioned it opens the 1.00

00:30:59.820 floodgates to the decay of the family right what's interesting is uh you know the catholics

00:31:05.440 and even the protestants were speaking out about it at the time but now it seems like the christian

00:31:11.400 church i don't i can't think of very many places where you would hear like a pastor

00:31:16.080 warn about the use of the pill and what that does to a woman's reproductive health.

00:31:22.100 They won't even warn about diet. I mean, I've heard like pastors won't even talk on diet. Like

00:31:25.940 I had a conversation with a pastor that we were going to church to. And, uh, I was like, Hey man,

00:31:30.060 like I have some like really good success with this diet. And like I've helped thousands of

00:31:34.400 patients and I think it'd be really helpful for the church. And he's like, ah, that just sounds

00:31:38.180 like it's going to be, you know, kind of causing some division. And I was like, I don't think so.

00:31:44.040 Like maybe like the division between your body and the amount of fat on it.

00:31:47.340 Yeah.

00:31:47.540 Right.

00:31:47.900 And disease.

00:31:48.640 Yeah.

00:31:49.040 The division between your body and the Krispy Kreme donut factory line, which is literally

00:31:55.580 just a conveyor belt of some of the worst things you could possibly put in your body,

00:32:00.740 like, like pornography paraded in front of you.

00:32:03.800 We've actually, uh, found that sometimes addressing gluttony.

00:32:07.800 Oh man.

00:32:08.360 I did a live stream on gluttony, um, like two weeks ago.

00:32:11.920 Oh, nice.

00:32:12.320 And because there was some discourse surrounding it, Pastor Doug Wilson did a video on it.

00:32:17.220 And so I was talking about his video and sort of expanding on the topic and just looking

00:32:21.540 at what is the church said about gluttony over the, because sometimes people want to

00:32:25.080 reduce the sin of gluttony to just riotous eating.

00:32:29.060 Yeah. 0.80

00:32:29.080 Like the Roman vomitorium where they're going and eating and eating and eating and purging

00:32:32.840 so they can eat more, which maybe didn't even happen historically, by the way, but that's

00:32:36.020 a different conversation.

00:32:37.320 And, but historically Christians have, we don't have to invent all of this from scratch

00:32:42.180 Christians always had a concept of gluttony functionally as disordered eating.

00:32:48.940 It's a disordered relationship between the man, this creature made by God, and the food that God made for him. 0.86

00:32:54.780 And it can show up in all sorts of different expressions.

00:32:58.840 Some of them would make you wildly obese, but some of them would just mean that you're really fussy and fastidious and anxious about your food.

00:33:06.740 Some of them might relate to acting like a beast at the dinner table, looking at you children.

00:33:12.180 but it is wild how controversial that video was. I bet. I mean, you just started dressing and I

00:33:19.520 looked into it and I can't remember the number, but it's something like 70, I think it's over 80%

00:33:23.980 of pastors in America are obese. Yeah. I mean, the population in general is 42%. Overweight is about

00:33:32.260 35 or no, 75%. So it was really high. Yeah, I believe it. And, uh, and it made me think, well,

00:33:38.600 here's an, here's a great example.

00:33:40.300 People aren't addressing these sins because they are committing them.

00:33:43.700 Right. And they have this disordered relationship to, to their food. Right.

00:33:47.600 And so just like with birth control, people will,

00:33:50.720 people will carve out a space where they keep their idols.

00:33:54.420 And if sex is a huge idol in our culture, which it absolutely is,

00:33:58.200 then anything that serves as a vanguard for that idol birth control,

00:34:02.980 anything that enables it will receive kid glove treatment. Yeah. 0.98

00:34:07.700 because you're harboring the sin. Right. Well, I I've even known of pastors who part of the

00:34:12.740 premarital counseling, you have two young people who are, you know, in a six month to a year

00:34:17.760 window of getting married and the pastor will say, okay, cool. You guys, you know, you should

00:34:21.600 probably get on the pill. Um, and that way you can not have kids for a couple of years, you know,

00:34:26.380 really make that about you time. Right. Like, have you heard of Instagram vacations? Now here's the

00:34:31.200 crazy thing. And you've proved this, Austin, you can actually take Instagram worthy vacations.

00:34:36.080 this is going to sound crazy with your family yes it's true i can with your children yeah it's fun

00:34:42.220 uh but just thinking through that from a christian perspective the pill the usage even pastors saying

00:34:47.400 hey this is a good thing uh seems to be a huge problem yeah again i think i think we've we've

00:34:54.040 turned this this concept of fertility into a a medical pathology that needs to be fixed it's

00:35:00.420 treated like a disease like a disease and it's like that's that's not what it is it's something

00:35:04.640 that is god-given it's good it's a sign of health having good fertility um and believe it or not

00:35:10.460 guys like there are other ways to prevent having a child you know like you could do natural family

00:35:13.760 planning you can wear a condom like you can just not have sex too like you don't have to always

00:35:18.700 just be kind of down and dirty with it but i think people are they've been an idol and i think ours

00:35:24.060 as a society um if we make it an idol we have to then find like you guys are saying to find a way

00:35:28.420 to justify why we're doing what we're doing and saying it's a medical issue and it's like that's

00:35:32.720 just not what it is so um i don't know if that answers your question yeah your original question

00:35:36.440 was yeah just the way that the pill um it's become like just part of the christian vernacular even

00:35:43.660 true same as gluttony yeah that it's it's a normative thing i want to read this quote this

00:35:48.660 is from mary everstat related to the pill she said no single event since eve took the apple

00:35:54.600 has been as consequential for relations between the sexes as the arrival of modern contraception

00:36:00.340 And in particular, the pill, I'm curious if you think the medical establishment foresaw what that would do or if a lot of people just, you know, we'll talk about this actually in the second episode that we're going to do with you.

00:36:14.920 right but like the establishment was such that you know you have your medical schools you have

00:36:19.900 the accepted wisdom but this was part of it yeah but do you think that they anticipated how this

00:36:26.060 would affect familial relations between the sexes in particular i think they're probably hoping it

00:36:32.780 would you know i don't know if they knew for sure i mean like we're talking about with contraceptive

00:36:36.640 use for for thousands of years like and the one example we didn't talk about was the use of lysol

00:36:40.780 and how that was actually killing people.

00:36:42.260 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:36:43.300 Can you go into that for a second?

00:36:44.420 Well, yeah, I don't know a ton,

00:36:45.380 but basically they were using,

00:36:46.680 before the pill came out in the 50s,

00:36:48.880 Lysol was a common,

00:36:49.840 like a dilutive form of Lysol

00:36:50.920 was a common form of birth control.

00:36:53.220 So were you like spraying that up in there?

00:36:54.800 I guess there's methods of getting it in there.

00:36:57.440 Why do you got to know?

00:36:58.600 I mean, they don't need to know.

00:37:00.800 As far as we know,

00:37:01.840 it had documented it killed five women

00:37:03.760 and there's probably many more that it killed.

00:37:06.040 So I think the whole point of what I'm trying to say

00:37:07.980 is is that um i think we we've known for a long time whenever we mess with fertility it's gonna

00:37:13.340 it's gonna have a side effect it's gonna have a consequence um i think with the the sexual

00:37:18.280 revolution of 1965 with the feminist movement like those they kind of intersected at the right

00:37:23.200 time and i think that's not by chance i think it was absolutely it was designed to like hey you

00:37:27.180 don't need to be in the house and getting pregnant you can be out in the workforce and just split up

00:37:30.740 the family and all that stuff and so i think it's always been the agenda i think it's um

00:37:34.700 it's a good plan if you want to disrupt a society in the nuclear family and really disrupt god's

00:37:40.260 plan for for the world like you just destroy um fertility like it's yeah it's the best way of 0.99

00:37:45.260 doing it absolutely if you just think about all the the things that are affected when you touch

00:37:49.780 this aspect of life i mean all of a sudden you have like you said you've created a way

00:37:55.960 where before there really was no reliable way um that was accessible to the masses right

00:38:01.740 short of sterilization that could essentially mean a woman can decide and that's kind of a myth too 0.96

00:38:08.680 because oftentimes it destroys her fertility and she really doesn't have the option later

00:38:12.240 that she thinks she will it's true but it destroys her or it gives her the option now i can go to work

00:38:17.180 and my career won't be disrupted i can choose when i'm gonna so now the man and the woman can both

00:38:23.340 work full-time right labor force participation we talked about this in um the longhouse book

00:38:28.560 in the economy section.

00:38:30.920 We talk about the birth control pill.

00:38:32.480 We also talk about labor rate participation

00:38:34.220 and how it changes with feminism,

00:38:37.440 but also the tools of feminism 1.00

00:38:39.220 like the birth control pill. 1.00

00:38:41.040 Well, now all of a sudden

00:38:42.220 that is affecting the experience

00:38:43.680 of children in the home.

00:38:45.940 It's affecting the model

00:38:47.320 that a young boy and a young girl are seeing.

00:38:50.240 What am I supposed to become? 0.93

00:38:52.380 Forever, you would become your father or your mother.

00:38:56.180 The daughter would say,

00:38:57.180 I'm going to become like my mother.

00:38:58.560 And a young boy would say, I'm going to become like my father.

00:39:01.260 Well, now the image that they're imitating is different.

00:39:04.620 Now it's just this sort of androgynous economic unit, maximal tax extraction, basically.

00:39:11.060 So then within a generation or two, what would you expect to see from that?

00:39:15.800 You would expect to see what we have.

00:39:18.060 People having fewer children.

00:39:20.100 People working, women working at a much higher rate in their economic activity.

00:39:25.000 You see households disrupted.

00:39:26.540 you see all of a sudden people start to say why why do we need marriage right if there's if we're

00:39:31.240 not having children what's the point is this just an economic arrangement why are we even why get

00:39:35.980 married it now enables rampant fornication porn usage like all of these downstream cascading

00:39:43.660 effects the reason we can know that it wasn't just accidental is because all of the people

00:39:48.720 involved in it said hey do you know what we're going to do stay the goal we have to figure out

00:39:55.540 I mean, even in the cold open there, it's hinted at, but they are in, it's the Margaret Sangers of the world who are enlisting the Dr. Pincuses that, you know, and this gynecologist and that chemical engineer over here and saying, Hey, let's figure out a way to do what to achieve Margaret Sangers, political, social, religious goals.

00:40:16.680 It wasn't this benevolent gift to women.

00:40:19.880 It was Margaret Sanger saying there are too many people in the world. 1.00

00:40:23.340 Yeah, it's social Darwinism and eugenics.

00:40:26.560 Yes, it's eugenics. 0.82

00:40:28.740 It's social Darwinism. 0.87

00:40:30.520 Fundamentally, it's all Satanism because it's rejecting God's end for the world, which think about this.

00:40:37.000 If you are a Christian, one of the anthropological truths that you must confess is that people are a resource.

00:40:45.460 People are a good thing. 1.00

00:40:47.100 Now, people are fallen and sinful.

00:40:48.920 This good thing has been corrupted by sin.

00:40:50.780 But fundamentally, in terms of their created nature, a person is a wildly good thing.

00:40:56.960 In fact, he or she is the crown of creation.

00:41:00.940 He is the image of God.

00:41:01.960 She is the glory of the man.

00:41:04.360 He's the glory of God.

00:41:05.480 She's the glory of the man.

00:41:06.600 And together, they come together in this gospel picture of Christ and his bride.

00:41:11.940 And at the union of the bride and the groom, they produce life.

00:41:15.780 They're fruitful.

00:41:16.480 And they cover the earth with what?

00:41:18.420 Glorious image bearers.

00:41:19.640 So when the prophets say the glory of God will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea, it's not talking about like people think about that as this rant, like glory sheen, like the chemtrails, but it's glorious.

00:41:33.600 It's actually talking about people, people who are restored to right worship of God, covering the earth and doing what they were meant to do, which is to rule and exercise dominion over the earth in God's name.

00:41:44.640 so everything we're talking about is overt intentional satanism yeah and they're just

00:41:52.440 leveraging medical technology like the nice to accomplish their satanic agenda it's like

00:41:58.220 even if they wouldn't put it in those terms i saw that is what's happening i saw a really

00:42:02.240 interesting podcast was researching for this show but one doctor was saying the birth control pill

00:42:08.740 was the first mass scale attempt at transhumanism it's a great point and when you think about it 0.88

00:42:14.400 like, do you remember the Peter Thiel interview where they're like, do you think it would be

00:42:17.500 good for humans to continue to exist? And he's like, he's like, well, yeah, I guess, but we

00:42:25.820 have chat GPT now, but what if optimist had a grok brain? Like what if it'd be so fun? I want 0.98

00:42:32.800 to get you guys' take though. Like, it seems like this really is, it's like a Frankensteinian

00:42:36.480 project, a transhumanist project to delete. I mean, think about, you know, a young girl goes 1.00

00:42:42.980 on the birth control pill you're trying to delete the female nature that god gave her absolutely

00:42:48.860 so do you agree with that the transhumanism type argument uh i got a lot of comments on the

00:42:53.440 transhumanism thing i mean i think i think that's um what elon musk has stated he wants to do with

00:43:00.180 neural link and all these things like it's a very stated again obvious goal um agenda that they're

00:43:04.080 pushing on yeah they're not hiding it no it's it's not even like a conspiracy at this point so

00:43:07.920 i think i think the the early transhumanism point that you were saying about this guy

00:43:12.060 a long time ago it makes a lot of sense that that's when it started to happen and now it's

00:43:15.760 just been transformed into this like robotic technology um element as well but i think yeah

00:43:21.600 that that's that's what's going on because if you have women that don't um that don't see like

00:43:26.460 here's my opinion this is not really like a stated medical opinion this is my opinion

00:43:29.800 i think that whenever women are in a state of chronic stress and not in their in their

00:43:35.080 biblical role they turn into men like pcos is like you have facial hair development you have

00:43:40.660 thinning of hair on your head you lose your cycle you have more testosterone like that's an 0.97

00:43:44.720 adaptation that can occur to make them more male like so physiologically even your body is responding

00:43:50.000 yeah because you're not you're not within that role and so and then when men are doing the same 0.98

00:43:54.060 thing when they're not in their role they become more feminine feminine they get man boobs and they 0.54

00:43:57.580 low t painting their hair pink and who knows what and this was interesting too this is kind 0.91

00:44:02.120 of off topic but most most uh i think the highest percentage of people group that turns uh trans is

00:44:08.220 white men so like you think about a white man who's in this minor like who wants to be in a

00:44:12.580 minority group like white men are like oh you have your your shame of being a white male you're

00:44:16.840 you're um you're privileged all these different things yeah for you to get out of that privilege

00:44:20.360 you could become a female and now you can kind of get that minority card back and yeah you like

00:44:25.100 you literally climb this hierarchical scale in egalitarian circles oh yeah right in the DEI

00:44:31.020 wokeness scale you go higher yeah by becoming a woman yeah by the way through a bunch of 0.78

00:44:36.560 injected hormones right but it's it's a form of transhumanism though it's a transmogrification 0.97

00:44:42.340 you're you're becoming this cartoon clown absurd carnival version of a woman and you

00:44:49.620 through the through an elaborate series of technological and medical interventions and 0.81

00:44:55.260 it's it's sad like it should it was already doing that the bill was doing that it was doing

00:44:59.520 hormonally yeah so when we one of the things christians today can be really bad at doing

00:45:04.160 is in people in general i think is noting the fundamental nature of a thing so they're thinking

00:45:11.140 about things constantly in terms of this very surface level cause and effect i have this problem

00:45:15.160 i don't want to have children sure but i do want to have sex so how do i solve this problem right

00:45:20.780 and so there's the pill what they're failing to do is the deeper analysis of wait a second though

00:45:26.860 what am i for and i think i suspect the reason that we do this is it's fundamentally an act of

00:45:33.700 rebellion. Because as soon as you ask a question, what am I for? You immediately, just by asking

00:45:40.240 the question, admit that you were created for something. Some creator had a purpose in designing

00:45:46.800 you. And that requires submission to the design parameters. And no longer can I be my own God

00:45:53.040 who's endlessly self-inventing and self-creating. I have to submit to some sort of authority over me

00:46:00.120 that made me for a thing and say,

00:46:02.420 well, I can no more permanently alter

00:46:05.580 my hormonal landscape of my body as a woman

00:46:07.760 without consequence than I could take an engine,

00:46:11.220 your diesel truck sitting outside

00:46:13.480 and put grape jelly in the tank and say,

00:46:16.100 well, I wanted it to run on grape jelly.

00:46:17.940 Right.

00:46:18.540 Yeah, but what will happen?

00:46:20.280 Well, it would be blasphemy

00:46:21.340 because a beautiful, glorious-

00:46:23.420 I don't even think about that.

00:46:24.340 A piece of art will have been destroyed from the earth.

00:46:27.000 Yeah.

00:46:27.280 But this is what we're doing

00:46:28.420 when we're constantly self-authoring.

00:46:30.120 and doing it through this just simple cause and effect level.

00:46:33.980 I think we're trying to avoid making eye contact with something all people

00:46:36.800 know,

00:46:37.300 which is I really was made for something.

00:46:40.780 And if I rebel against that creator,

00:46:43.700 even if I do it through elaborate,

00:46:45.940 I take all the intellect God gave me.

00:46:47.680 And I mean,

00:46:48.380 the people who are inventing these technologies,

00:46:51.240 think about what it takes to trans a guy without killing him,

00:46:54.960 like without just killing him right then. 0.98

00:46:56.480 I mean, 0.99

00:46:57.160 that is impressive.

00:46:58.580 Incredible.

00:46:59.020 intellect incredible engineering i hate i hate even to say the word incredible related to it but 0.80

00:47:05.780 it's not like they were stupid sure these are incredibly intelligent industrious people

00:47:11.480 and they just turn their intellect to saying how can i best give god the middle finger right and 0.93

00:47:16.660 elevate myself to a to a little deity what is interesting because even with margaret singer

00:47:22.420 like her passion in life was hatred of the church oh yes and of the minorities too yes she hate

00:47:29.420 She was full of hate.

00:47:31.180 Like Margaret Sanger, think about how purely she was full of hate. 0.55

00:47:35.180 She hated people.

00:47:36.840 Again, she saw, if you were to ask Margaret Sanger, what is the biggest problem in the world today?

00:47:40.920 She probably would have said something related to population.

00:47:44.740 Because everything she dealt with was like, so what is that?

00:47:47.380 It is the most pure hatred of humanity, which is a hatred of the image of God.

00:47:53.520 She hated people.

00:47:54.780 She saw people fundamentally as a problem instead of as a resource that brings like, why, why right now are we having, this is seemed like a side trail, but it's going to connect. Why is social security going bankrupt? Well, it's a stupid program with bad fundamentals from the beginning, but even just on a cause effect level, it's because there are a lot of baby boomers.

00:48:15.060 they were very fertile and not a lot of zoomers and millennials. 0.99

00:48:17.960 And so this working class that is supposed to pay and have this cycle where 0.99

00:48:22.280 the younger pay for the older point, 1.00

00:48:24.460 they killed them. 0.87

00:48:26.060 They aborted them and they didn't have them. 0.98

00:48:28.720 They didn't have children. 0.90

00:48:30.060 There's not enough worker bees.

00:48:31.620 So the problem is that there's not,

00:48:33.220 it's not overpopulation.

00:48:34.960 It's underpopulation.

00:48:36.800 We don't have enough people.

00:48:38.640 So that myth has been going on for a long time.

00:48:40.620 Actually,

00:48:40.840 I think early 1900s Gillette,

00:48:44.340 you know like the Gillette shavers that dude was like super into it um but it's funny because

00:48:49.620 even if you look at China we have been taught through like public education mostly that China

00:48:54.700 is has this like massive exploding population they're actually in like the Asian countries

00:48:59.080 in steep decline they have a time they have a crisis on their hands Korea this is hit I mean

00:49:04.560 this is most places in the world that are having this crisis this is not just China anymore it's

00:49:08.360 you know I say it's Italy it's these main European countries yeah even uh even a place like India we

00:49:12.100 talked about this uh ford uh henry ford they they started the ford foundation it got hijacked by the

00:49:18.380 cia and one of the main programs that they were doing was castrating people in india yeah this 0.57

00:49:26.160 whole like china's in this is to the to the whole point it's allopathic versus like it's all these

00:49:31.560 different conversations come back to the same root a lot of the time and it is treating things

00:49:37.500 according to their nature in submission to God or trying to be our own gods and intervening and

00:49:42.760 attempting to. And even with China, it's fascinating. We just had a conversation with a gentleman last

00:49:47.940 week, not on the podcast, but just kind of privately at dinner. And he was talking about

00:49:53.940 some of his takes on geopolitics. He was like, well, this is connected to this, is connected to

00:49:58.040 this. And one of the fundamental pieces he was connecting, I don't know if he's right or not,

00:50:01.080 but it was a pretty compelling idea, is that China, because of their demographic issue,

00:50:05.820 has a time bomb where they have until about like 2031 or 2032 before the demographic shift becomes

00:50:12.560 so catastrophic economically and in terms of military and all these other things that they

00:50:17.880 are really trying right now to press for certain agendas as quickly as they can knowing that if

00:50:24.180 they don't achieve them a certain level of power they're cooked i think i mean this is where i

00:50:29.740 think uh if they knew the development of technology that was going to happen with you know these ai

00:50:34.180 robots and all this sort of stuff i think i don't think i don't think this is by accident either i

00:50:38.800 think they knew they could replace robots with humans and like they can live the elite lifestyle

00:50:42.660 they want to and have all the resources they want to and so all the the bottom feeders and people

00:50:47.640 sucking on the tea to the financial system they can just kind of they can just die off and then

00:50:51.600 they'll have what they want so like i think that's like the evil agenda they have but yeah it's again 0.96

00:50:56.080 they're smart people they're not they're not just like oh i guess we're replacing with robots now

00:51:00.680 you know all this stuff is like being set up and teed up for their own success yeah so yeah one of

00:51:05.460 the questions i want to ask uh this would be like for guys who listen to the show we're thinking

00:51:09.000 about mothers and fathers right you've got teen teen girls um i guess and we've talked a little

00:51:15.100 bit about this but i kind of want to delve into it just a little bit more if a father came to you

00:51:20.320 and was like hey maybe it's a friend somebody at the church they're like hey i'm thinking about

00:51:24.100 putting my 13 year old girl on the birth control pill first of all like what would you tell them

00:51:29.700 and then what would be some of the warnings about health effects i mean i had somebody asked me this

00:51:34.820 when i was speaking at a conference in miami and uh the phrase that i said was like i would rather

00:51:39.140 you shoot me than put my daughter in birth control like i would i'm just there's just no other option

00:51:43.720 for me like there's to me it's it's one of those things it's um i have parents ask me this all the

00:51:49.300 time and i'm like are you trying to prevent pregnancy for your 13 year old because if that's

00:51:52.980 the case like we got other issues bigger problems if you're trying to fix their health problems with

00:51:56.740 their symptoms or whatever else know that a 13 year old is going to have fluctuations with their

00:52:00.480 hormones quite a bit until they're probably 18 19 years old and that's normal so we need to

00:52:05.340 normalize that that like that's okay to have fluctuations and then also figure out if you

00:52:10.800 are you know watch your lifestyle so many people treat their houses as hotels right they just kind

00:52:15.080 of pass through they're always just going so fast and so busy so they're not making real food they

00:52:19.300 don't have good sleep schedules you know their kids are playing sports all all year long like 0.55

00:52:23.240 they're especially young females that are you know burning up their progesterone by playing

00:52:27.320 competitive sports all the time and not eating enough nutritious food and taking rice supplements 1.00

00:52:30.880 like they're gonna have menstrual cycle issues for sure and so if i had if i was talking to a

00:52:36.520 father that's what i would say is like what is your daughter doing or not doing that would make

00:52:40.700 you think that she has to be on the birth control pill because she doesn't um even i mean yeah my

00:52:45.920 wife and i when we when we were first married she was on um an iud and this is we knew nothing about

00:52:52.540 the stuff it was just like just doing what we're told and um i was in school i remember i one of

00:52:57.780 my professors was talking about birth control and stuff and he just said like you're gonna need about

00:53:01.300 a year for your body to be ready to have a baby after being on birth control and in my mind it

00:53:05.920 kind of triggered something like well why would it take a year for your body to be able to come

00:53:08.860 back to normal to where you could do that and so it just kind of started me thinking about

00:53:12.460 all the negative effects that birth control had so we got her off the iud and she hasn't been on

00:53:16.440 birth control since but i think the thing that fathers and husbands fail to realize is just like

00:53:22.200 amount of um pressure that's on a mother if she already has kids and then she just got pregnant

00:53:28.820 or she just had a baby and now she's worried about getting pregnant again because it's it's

00:53:31.720 tough on the body you know it's it's a lot um i think as husbands one thing that we can do for

00:53:36.180 for our wives is just understand like hey if if we don't want to be on birth control and i don't

00:53:41.300 want to get a vasectomy we don't want you to have a hysterectomy like something has to give right 1.00

00:53:45.800 and so either we need to be very aware of your cycle to where we're both tracking it so that i 0.64

00:53:50.680 know like hey you you are on your fertile window like we should probably not be engaging in sex at

00:53:54.940 this point or if we are we need to have you know prophylactic measures to to make sure that that's 0.96

00:53:59.660 not going to happen um but so many guys have no idea where the wife is in their cycle like they

00:54:03.980 don't know what you know if she's in her follicular phase or ovulation or luteal phase and so if you

00:54:08.600 just know those dates and know that like six days um before her peak ovulation she could get pregnant

00:54:13.960 and then after that she can't and probably right before she can't you know either so there's like

00:54:20.500 some freedom in that to not feel like you have to always just be on the birth control or whatever

00:54:25.600 contraceptive method you want to use. And I think for a lot of husbands, like we just don't know,

00:54:29.180 we just don't know like what kind of stress they feel with like, I'm not ready to get pregnant yet.

00:54:33.940 I was just pregnant. Like I need some time to heal. And like, that's a stressor on them and

00:54:37.440 that affects their hormones. And I think there's more that guys can do with their daughters,

00:54:40.880 with their wives. That's like what I would encourage guys to do is just look at that stuff.

00:54:45.140 Yeah. Brian, it seems like a pastoral counseling, this comes up a lot. We talk about, you know,

00:54:49.800 the concept of living with your wife in an understanding way per the apostles

00:54:53.820 instruction. Um, but, but part of it,

00:54:56.240 I've heard a lot more of this recently with Christian dad saying like to,

00:54:59.700 to your exact point,

00:55:00.540 it would be really helpful for you to understand your wife's cycle that this is

00:55:04.540 a natural thing, but also like if your wife's about to go on her period and,

00:55:10.300 you know, she just starts crying for no reason, you know, you can,

00:55:13.780 you know what to do. Yeah. You're prepared, you know, and,

00:55:16.860 and you can kind of accommodate. Um, so why is it like,

00:55:19.540 pastorally from your perspective, what are you thinking through on that?

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00:57:37.680 If you think about biblical commands to husbands, we're to nourish and cherish our wives, but

00:57:43.420 particularly we're to live with her in an understanding way, treating her with gentleness.

00:57:49.920 A man who fails to do this, it's such a serious sin that we're told that it might even hinder

00:57:55.160 our prayers.

00:57:56.660 So part of living with your wife in an understanding way is knowing the kind of thing that she

00:58:01.520 is.

00:58:02.380 Like this is what the apostles getting at that.

00:58:05.480 well, you have to know that she's the weaker vessel is what he says. So I have to know all

00:58:10.660 sorts of things about her because there are layers to that. She, she needs a head. She was

00:58:15.980 created to have a husband who would, she would submit to and respect and he would love and lay

00:58:20.920 his life down for her and lead her. Um, part of this just requires making a careful study of your

00:58:26.480 wife, like knowing what she likes, what, what is she not like? What, how does she tick? Like in

00:58:32.820 every woman's slightly different, but also just generally knowing what a woman is and how they

00:58:37.840 work is really important. And this is one of the big tasks for a young man. When he starts,

00:58:43.280 when he first enters marriage, um, he, he will have learned from his mother and maybe sisters

00:58:48.600 growing up a little bit. I try to teach my boys, you know, and we've talked about this before.

00:58:55.100 Um, you know, your mom is like this because she's a woman and that's a good thing. Yeah. 0.77

00:59:00.760 Your sisters are like this and that's because they're little women and that's a good thing.

00:59:04.880 So you need to relate to them in a different way than you'd relate to your dad or your

00:59:08.800 brothers.

00:59:09.340 You need to be respectful and gentle.

00:59:11.800 And I just think as a husband, this doesn't stop when it just comes to like personality

00:59:16.940 or spiritual matters. 0.80

00:59:18.740 But even for your wife's frame as a woman, she is different than you. 1.00

00:59:23.520 You're getting a steady shot of testosterone pretty much all the time. 1.00

00:59:27.760 we're pretty much like a daily cycle i guess you think about it hormonally women have a monthly 1.00

00:59:33.860 cycle and they're daily too but a monthly cycle and it affects the way it affects her temptations 1.00

00:59:39.520 it's going to affect her mood in ways that she can't control she can't just white knuckle it

00:59:46.300 and say during my luteal phase or however you pronounce it i don't know that's good

00:59:51.740 she can't control that she is feeling different during that phase of the month right

00:59:56.620 she can't control that when she's ovulating it's like the greatest time of like all of a sudden

01:00:03.000 you are the greatest man who's ever lived and you're wildly attractive and it's wonderful and

01:00:07.520 like it's a good thing right ride that high like ride that high but knowing that it's going to

01:00:14.700 help you relate to her and even know how to love her and lead her well and it doesn't mean being

01:00:20.040 like a white knight simp it doesn't mean that all of a sudden and this is what our culture's done

01:00:23.900 a woman during her you know that period of her cycle when she's feeling more emotional and 0.99

01:00:29.500 like harder to sleep a lot of other symptoms you know it's just a card like she can just sin

01:00:35.260 no no one thing that might mean is that you do keep an eye out and say like i need to make sure

01:00:41.540 that i may be stepping in a little bit more to help my wife with certain things make sure that

01:00:46.520 she's sleeping well but also tell her like hey hey let's go talk babe you're you're really being

01:00:52.220 snippy with the kids today yeah i've even heard christian fathers say things like that might not

01:00:57.600 be that that you know season in her period her window for the month that might not be the time

01:01:03.100 to schedule every single night out of the house doing hospitality rights right like you want to

01:01:07.500 adjust to that yeah and the thing is god god is so kind that he made it predictable you know if

01:01:12.980 you're we track everything and what that means is that i know what's going on with my wife

01:01:20.840 physically. Like I know what she's going through. Even just, I mean, think about the whole,

01:01:25.920 the glory of pregnancy, childbirth there. There's yet another example of a place where you need to

01:01:33.440 understand what is happening with your wife physically so that you can love and lead her

01:01:37.500 well, because she has different needs and different vulnerabilities during that time.

01:01:43.420 So sometimes when we treat men as women, for example, one thing we might do is say, you know,

01:01:48.260 hey a husband could have this expectation that five or six days after giving birth surely my

01:01:54.640 wife can get back to doing all the things she was doing even as a stay-at-home mom sure no no no 0.99

01:01:59.240 she needs more time to physically recover she needs more help from you or from other people 1.00

01:02:06.140 family that can come in or friends or even hired help if you need to because she has a higher risk

01:02:12.120 of all sorts of complications if she's back on her feet trying to do 110 percent a week after

01:02:17.700 giving birth. So there's layers to this. A wise and godly husband makes it his business to study

01:02:25.320 and then figure out how to help. So I have a few questions. Do you have like a, is there like an

01:02:31.160 app that you recommend where like a woman can track her cycle and maybe like a husband is like,

01:02:37.060 you know, you're doing that together. What do you normally? Yeah. I used to have my own app,

01:02:41.020 but I lost all the data for it. But yeah, there's plenty of apps out there where you can track

01:02:45.360 cycles i mean there's they're all pretty similar because i think if you're unless you're tracking

01:02:49.000 temperature and um consistency of discharge like you're really just tracking dates and consistency

01:02:55.480 of dates so those are not hard to track with apps um but i think again for what i would encourage a

01:03:01.020 lot of guys to do is uh do like a genetic test do an mthfr test yes because if you don't know if

01:03:06.880 your wife methylates well mthfr is a genetic variant where basically you don't process folic

01:03:12.800 acid and so a lot of women are getting you know prenatals or women's vitamins with folic acid

01:03:17.960 it's not doing anything that's making them crazy i mean that's why they have postpartum depression

01:03:21.120 it's because of that so i think a lot of guys again if you just if i think for some reason men

01:03:26.200 seem to pass on the responsibility of like health and food and stuff to our wives and it's like i

01:03:30.140 think that should be our responsibility as much as it is our wives at least to saying like hey

01:03:35.040 how much do we need in the budget to execute getting healthy food and and like oh do we need 0.98

01:03:39.800 to do a micronutrient test to see if you guys are low or if you're toxic with mold or whatever the

01:03:44.420 case is and so you can't always just say like a healthy woman with healthy fertility and healthy

01:03:50.080 cycles like they they don't have as many high uh and low swings like they're pretty they can be

01:03:55.000 more consistent uh whenever i've seen with my clients or my wife like if they're having like

01:03:59.240 just erratic behavior i'm like there's just something missing here like we're not executing

01:04:03.040 on your health and so i think for some guys it's easy to say oh luteal phase about to have their

01:04:07.220 cycle that's like normal it's like well that can be but like that's not always we shouldn't

01:04:13.080 normalize those symptoms all the time too like pms is like a more of a pathology like having

01:04:18.240 menstrual cycle symptoms is like not necessarily always normal so i think there's things like that

01:04:24.200 we have to understand but the good news is like when you get her balance with her micronutrients

01:04:28.440 especially if she was on birth control for years like she probably is low in folate and b12 and b6

01:04:35.020 and zinc and magnesium and iron and so like you can supplement with those things and like she'll

01:04:39.700 start to feel herself again and not feel so crazy and so again i just don't always want to um

01:04:44.760 make it seem like there's nothing you can do except to understand their cycles like there's

01:04:49.620 a lot you can do to actually make a big impact on how they feel and how they function yeah i think

01:04:53.780 the headship and responsibility thing is really good we kind of talked about this with like

01:04:57.820 christian education even where dads can delegate way too much not be involved with that process but 0.84

01:05:03.640 A woman's health would, you think about it, you're one flesh. 0.93

01:05:06.640 So you should think of her body as your body. 1.00

01:05:09.420 Like, and that includes the physical body.

01:05:11.440 So you should care for it.

01:05:12.760 You should take a leading role. 1.00

01:05:14.040 I've noticed a lot with women too, that one of the things they will do, they're really 0.96

01:05:17.860 good at caring for other people, but it's almost like you have to encourage your wife. 1.00

01:05:22.040 Like we do need to spend money to take care of you.

01:05:25.380 Yeah.

01:05:25.700 Yep.

01:05:26.060 That's really important. 1.00

01:05:27.120 Caregiver syndrome is like the leading cause of most female issues. 1.00

01:05:29.400 That's why I think there have the majority of the healthcare dollars in the United States 1.00

01:05:32.660 is because they always are giving themselves to a point.

01:05:35.220 I think it's like, I don't know if it's like

01:05:37.020 they have to affirm their role

01:05:40.660 and I don't know what it is for women, 1.00

01:05:43.600 like why they feel that way.

01:05:44.420 Because I never feel that way.

01:05:45.420 Like I don't ever feel like

01:05:46.360 I have to impress people with that.

01:05:48.460 It's nature.

01:05:49.100 Yeah, it's so interesting.

01:05:50.280 But I think that's the default for them

01:05:51.760 is they want to take on more than they can handle

01:05:53.340 and then want to give up more than they want to,

01:05:55.880 that they should be handling, you know?

01:05:57.140 So that's the crux there.

01:05:58.880 Yeah, that's good.

01:05:59.420 One of the questions, I kind of have two more,

01:06:01.380 but you mentioned this with okay let's say a woman has been on birth control for a long period

01:06:08.020 of time they maybe they read the research whatever's happening they get off and then

01:06:13.620 they want to have children like what sort of coaching counsel are you to be giving in those

01:06:17.880 types of situations i mean i want to see where their hormones are so we'll do a dutch test it's

01:06:22.040 a urine sample you do a day 21 of where your cycle should be and so that's usually the peak

01:06:27.300 of certain hormones that we're looking for that would indicate fertility. Um, and so you can do

01:06:31.960 a Dutch test, you can do a vibrant test, but basically we're looking for is like, where's

01:06:35.160 your progesterone and where's your luteinizing hormone, where's your estrogen. And we can kind

01:06:38.880 of say like, based on these levels, it seems like you're either lacking something or not.

01:06:43.540 And it'll give us more details as to what needs to change. And so you can, you can guess and say

01:06:47.280 like, Hey, I'll do a B vitamin or B complex. I'll take some iron or whatever else, magnesium,

01:06:51.840 vitamin D. Those are all good things. But really what you want to do is if you're truly wanting

01:06:54.980 to make a baby, like you need to get really detailed as far as like what happened to me

01:06:59.280 in the last 10 years when I was on birth control is most likely nothing. It wasn't like nothing

01:07:05.540 happened to you. Like there was things that were occurring while you were on that. So you want to,

01:07:08.420 you want to kind of counter that and fix that, uh, with useful information, like a Dutch test.

01:07:12.660 Okay. Yeah, that's good. Um, and then final question is weird. You mentioned it earlier,

01:07:17.360 like we have a chapter in the long house book on women in sports. Yeah. One of the things that was

01:07:22.060 really alarming. I started noticing a couple of years ago that a lot of the LGBT stuff was being 1.00

01:07:28.300 pushed through female sports, but also transgenderism. This is kind of the battleground where

01:07:32.940 it's being fought. So in that research, what I was coming across was even like secular,

01:07:38.220 non-Christian scientists, psychologists, et cetera, who were looking into women's participation in

01:07:44.280 things like cutting sports, high endurance sports, soccer was on there. And they were noticing things

01:07:50.780 like the rates of ACL tears in young women are astronomical.

01:07:55.600 And a lot of the doctors were saying, look, it's pretty easy to tell why.

01:07:59.140 As they go through puberty, their hips are widening.

01:08:01.560 It puts an undue stress on their knees.

01:08:03.720 And then sort of central to all of this, I think it was a British study where they said,

01:08:09.180 yeah, these women are working so hard, they stop having periods.

01:08:14.840 And they were talking about the long-term effects of not having a period were like really bad.

01:08:20.460 yeah um so then it got us thinking you know well fathers need to think through this

01:08:25.400 like hey maybe if your wife is like a marathon runner and she hasn't had a period in six years

01:08:31.300 like that might actually be something it's it's very countercultural to say yeah but you might

01:08:36.300 say like maybe that's not good no it's not good i mean whenever so whenever you're on the pill you

01:08:41.000 have a withdrawal bleed is why you you have so a lot of women think oh i'm having a regular cycle

01:08:45.460 i'm on my period but you're actually having a withdrawal from the medication so they'll give

01:08:48.440 you placebo pills for four or five days while you're on the pill to think kind of keep you

01:08:52.600 consistent with your intake but really you're not actually having that uh that uterine lining

01:08:58.000 shedding that's supposed to happen for like proper cleansing of your of your uterus and

01:09:01.680 and so a lot of women are uh you start seeing like endometriosis is a huge problem and it's

01:09:07.460 increasing more and more every every year where basically you're getting these lesions on the

01:09:11.820 outside of your uterus and they're like uh uterine type tissue and so it's kind of getting on the

01:09:18.260 outside it's kind of like making its way through and then your body starts to attack it because

01:09:21.480 it's not supposed to be there and a lot of women are having extreme period pain and bloating and

01:09:26.800 all these different types of symptoms and they end up getting a hysterectomy down the road because

01:09:29.660 it's just too much but a lot of that's because like they're not getting a proper cycle proper

01:09:33.880 period like they're not having proper cleansing in their uterus and so yeah you have to have a

01:09:38.260 cycle like it's it's it's honestly like the best ovulation is what's being blocked for a lot of

01:09:42.940 women on the pill and that's like the best time of their cycle that's like you said they feel

01:09:46.600 the strongest they feel the most happy most energetic uh but for a lot of women they get 0.54

01:09:50.180 that cut out and that's why i think anxiety is so high depression so high because they just get

01:09:54.280 that there's basically no good period for them yeah you just yeah then you have a physiological

01:09:57.720 bleed where you still feel terrible but you're not having a proper detoxification cleansing of 0.84

01:10:01.500 your uterus and so that's one big issue for a lot of yeah with younger women but i'm not sure if you

01:10:06.120 guys can pull any like charts up or anything like that but there's a chart um and i can send it to

01:10:09.500 you guys later if you want but it's uh it's a steroid hormone chart and it kind of shows like

01:10:13.100 what hormones so hormones are created with cholesterol that then get converted down to

01:10:16.980 pregnenolone and from there they go progesterone and cortisol and dhea and all these different

01:10:21.100 hormones um whenever you're constantly reinitiating a stress cycle with cortisol that

01:10:26.980 essentially robs your progesterone which is that calming hormone and helps to kind of initiate your 0.95

01:10:31.440 cycle and so women are often just initiating a cortisol response all the time it's just robbing 0.98

01:10:36.360 their hormones and so they call it a cortisol steal and a lot of hormones are just deficient 0.77

01:10:40.280 because of that mechanism by itself then you add in things like insulin resistance which is you

01:10:44.620 know you're uh you're more likely to gain fat and all that stuff like your body is uh going to start

01:10:49.780 shuttling different hormones different places because insulin is more favorable for androgens

01:10:54.580 which are more male-like hormones and so that's where the oily skin and facial hair and all that

01:10:58.580 kind of stuff starts kicking in for women but really so there's what i would say for women

01:11:01.680 listening to this like you want to get on a consistent circadian rhythm cycle where you have

01:11:05.480 like a consistent bedtime if you can, which is tough when you're a mom. But most moms will stay 0.98

01:11:10.160 up too late because they're trying to reclaim their day a little bit. Like they've had a busy 1.00

01:11:13.260 day. They didn't get to do what they needed to do, or they don't have a show they want to watch

01:11:15.960 or whatever. So they'll stay up 10, 1030, 11 o'clock. And then their circadian rhythm gets

01:11:20.020 disrupted. They wake up in the morning time. They have to use an alarm clock. Their cortisol is not

01:11:23.980 waking them up like it's supposed to. So they use caffeine or coffee just to kind of wake them up.

01:11:28.800 That can tank progesterone. Then all of a sudden you're starting your day off, like feeling more

01:11:32.840 hangry so you need more sugar you need more carbs so you kind of get in this vicious cycle that

01:11:36.580 a lot of them get caught up in and if you have your cycle where you're having fluctuations with

01:11:40.180 these hormones naturally and you're doing that routinely you really start to see a huge tanking

01:11:45.140 of your hormones to where your cycle then becomes irregular and it's maybe it's 32 days or 24 days 0.97

01:11:49.940 when it should be about 28 days and so there's a lot of things that women need to do that are just

01:11:54.240 like so if we just live a very simple life it's it's not hard to do but our our day and age it's

01:12:00.160 very difficult to do because there's so much so much busyness going on there's just too much

01:12:03.960 busyness in my opinion yeah it seems like stress uh for men too but the stress actually is disrupting

01:12:10.280 quite a bit yeah yeah stress is a big one and again stress can stress can be good you know

01:12:14.900 it's not always a bad thing yeah i think men do well with stress um if it's like um if you're

01:12:20.900 feeling a lot of environmental stress or like mental stress i think it's a good thing to not

01:12:24.880 add extra stress with like alcohol and caffeine you know because like that's like or or nicotine

01:12:29.800 like those are things that are exogenous that don't need to be in your system that cause stress

01:12:33.360 whereas like if you're just kind of like men pull straighter with the heavier load you know like 0.98

01:12:36.960 we're we're good at that stuff but women it's not it's not the same way you know like they have

01:12:41.200 those fluctuations so as you guys are all saying like honoring that kind of understanding what 0.59

01:12:44.620 that looks like um just doing some basic lab work basic supplementation basic routines with your

01:12:49.940 life like it really will start to resolve pretty quickly i've seen it happen with thousands of 0.81

01:12:53.900 women and like it's it's not that hard but those women are often doing it by themselves yeah and 0.85

01:12:58.260 their husbands nowhere to be seen. And so like, that's where I'm always like, this is, this is

01:13:01.980 the real problem. Yeah. He can be an active harm. I mean, even think Lexi and I joke about this all

01:13:06.320 the time. She'll joke about her bedtime. Cause I'll be like, babe, it's your bedtime. It's like

01:13:11.740 10 o'clock. I'm like, it's, it's. And the reason is I know my wife and she, she wants to be with

01:13:17.840 me and that's the best time. Cause kids are asleep. It is good. It's our time. So we try to protect

01:13:22.580 it, but it can also be tempting just to stay up later and later. So I'll do bedtime for us and

01:13:27.980 say, I know we got to go to bed because I know she's a good woman. I know she's getting up early

01:13:32.000 to take care of the kid, like get breakfast ready and all these different things. And it's funny how

01:13:37.220 just like one little thing, it can run away and cascade in all these, like where it just presses

01:13:45.340 on all the normal temptations of men and women to sin in the ways that we tend to sin. So like for

01:13:50.980 a woman, high anxiety is a common temptation. It's common to women. It's one of the reasons I think 0.93

01:13:56.880 Peter in 1 Peter 3 specifically calls out and praises Sarah's fearlessness. She didn't fear.

01:14:05.800 She submitted her husband. She didn't fear because fear is a big anxiety and fear is a big

01:14:10.460 temptation for women. And when the body is disrupted, it's not just neutral. It presses 0.99

01:14:18.360 on those spiritual temptations as well. It's like a low T man. We talk about this all the time. 0.98

01:14:24.700 Sometimes the first thing a guy needs to do, if he's not doing well,

01:14:27.500 it's like, go get your blood work done. Right. You're, you might have,

01:14:30.840 you know,

01:14:31.440 we were talking about that with pastoral counseling where in the past and I had

01:14:37.500 like Southern Baptist seminary training, it was kind of,

01:14:40.860 I think the tendency to over-spiritualize every problem. Yeah. Right.

01:14:44.220 So if like somebody's true, somebody's cranky, you're like, well,

01:14:46.500 you're sinning. Here's the verse. Now you do have to address that. Yes.

01:14:50.100 I'm not saying you don't, but a lot of times, yeah.

01:14:52.200 Like we would get a guy who is like, yeah, I'm just, I'm tired all the time.

01:14:55.780 I'm really apathetic.

01:14:56.820 I have no libido.

01:14:57.780 It's really affecting my marriage.

01:14:59.940 And it's gotten to the point where we like, one of the first things we will tell them,

01:15:03.480 I need you to go get blood work.

01:15:04.920 Yeah.

01:15:05.540 Oh, your T is at one 20.

01:15:07.120 Yeah.

01:15:07.340 Your three T's at 20.

01:15:08.720 I've literally had local doctors tell me this with the functional medicine guys where they're

01:15:12.500 like, Hey man, like you're not getting anything for referrals, but thanks.

01:15:17.700 Do you, do you like, do you have a program?

01:15:19.820 Yeah.

01:15:20.160 Cause we'll, we'll, we'll do a referral program.

01:15:21.640 that's awesome but just you know you'd start applying that treat the whole person it makes 1.00

01:15:25.500 total sense that women would be higher a percentage of health care a because their their issues are 0.98

01:15:30.640 really complex they are just complex creatures like they do this miraculous wonderful thing 0.96

01:15:35.920 but they're complicated but then also even because of that temptation to high anxiety and neuroticism

01:15:42.180 women can also have a higher degree of um believing that there is an issue all that's

01:15:50.200 And it's really the anxiety, right? And there is an issue maybe physically, but it's much more subtle than you have this big diagnosis, right? It's more, there's a lot of little fundamental things that are increasing all of these feelings all the time. Yeah. And then they go to the doctor and the doctor just checks some boxes, checks a few boxes, 18 minutes, and then they feel crazy.

01:16:10.940 but actually it actually brings up the last i swear this is the last question but we have you

01:16:15.740 you know you're in studio it's like i want to ask this one of the things that i've seen a lot in

01:16:20.080 women um particularly if they get interested in health is maybe what you're talking about like 0.99

01:16:25.080 this propensity toward what you might call like hypochondria you know what i mean like where they

01:16:30.460 start thinking about health but and it's not all women uh but there is a high percentage where it

01:16:35.500 seems like they just become obsessed with like in a bad way an anxious way so like i'm sure you've

01:16:43.140 had to deal with this with with female patients how do you kind of help them navigate like yeah

01:16:47.220 you want to be on top of things but also like you probably don't need to be on web md at midnight

01:16:53.400 yeah checking all the new conditions you have yeah i like to use the the ditches analogy i

01:16:58.480 think you guys like to use that too but i always say you know we can't take it's like the meaningless

01:17:03.220 like i think the baptists kind of lean towards that's all meaningless under the sun like

01:17:06.860 misrepresent that all together but and they just completely neglect their health but then there's

01:17:11.340 the people who treat it as an idol you know and that's not good either so i always tell my clients

01:17:16.200 um i want i mean i just want them to pray about it like i want them to actually get in the word

01:17:19.820 and kind of like do some uh you know i don't say soul searching but like just ask the holy spirit

01:17:24.080 like where like where are my idols with this stuff because i think two great ways to experience

01:17:28.680 rejected prayers is like praying for an idol, like for more idol worship. And then also not

01:17:34.560 asking for wisdom to know what to pray for. So you can be in alignment with God's will.

01:17:38.100 But I think if you ask those two things to God, like while you're going through your health

01:17:40.840 journey, like he will reveal those things to you. Like, why am I really trying to get healthy? Am

01:17:44.320 I trying to look good in a dress for a wedding coming up? Or do I want to be a better mom,

01:17:47.900 you know, or be a better wife to my husband? And so I think that's the question I always try to

01:17:51.300 probe is just let them kind of come to that conclusion on their own. But it is a tough one

01:17:55.260 to deal with because the biohacking longevity space makes it all about your biomarkers and

01:18:00.300 it's a huge idol and it's not healthy it's not good um it's not biblical so i think there's a

01:18:04.680 balance there which i hate using the word balance but like it really is a balance on that either

01:18:08.440 side of those two ditches to kind of make sure you're walking the road that god wants you to

01:18:11.380 walk some people it seems like they and men can be like this we love data you know men love data

01:18:17.020 i love data um but but for some people having the smart watch or having the having the sleep

01:18:22.160 tracker having the things actually the worst possible thing get rid of it because all of a

01:18:25.300 sudden they're like i got my ring on i've got to sleep really good tonight yeah my score was low

01:18:30.180 and then they're just sitting there going sleep better like anxious at that time like you have

01:18:35.220 to know yourself and your tendencies right your temptations are different and for some people

01:18:40.640 i'm like man you need you need like just to turn it all off i think people need more purpose is

01:18:47.460 what people need because like when you when you have good health and you have purpose like you

01:18:51.500 don't you just go do the thing you don't like sit and ruminate the health is for something right

01:18:55.560 you're not just kind of like how can i like maximize this one area and get two percent better

01:18:58.960 like brian johnson like brian johnson it's like no like how i mean he's trying to dunk which is

01:19:02.320 actually kind of cool yeah i mean now he has a goal yeah like that i respect let him cook you

01:19:05.780 gotta have a goal but i think i think for a lot of people they just don't have purpose like they're

01:19:09.020 lacking that like and that's also when people wake up in the morning they have a hard time getting up

01:19:11.700 a lot of people i've talked to they just don't have a motivation to get out of what am i getting

01:19:15.240 up for what am i getting up for but if you have grandkids you have kids like i'm i'm constantly

01:19:19.140 like i need more energy for my nine-year-old boy and my seven-year-old girl and my two-year-old son

01:19:23.220 and five-year-old daughter like i need energy for them and for my wife at the end of the day so

01:19:27.000 it's not hard for me to kind of keep my mindset on that but a lot of people don't have that they

01:19:31.040 don't have that perspective right i think even like the i'm i'm extending it i need to stop

01:19:36.400 but the uh the like body dysmorphia and bodybuilding in men where they start getting

01:19:42.160 into lifting and they're like their whole goal is aesthetic and they're never going to be

01:19:47.100 satisfied. They don't know what their strength is for. Like it's actually for something. It's not

01:19:51.680 just masturbatory, not just like, yeah. Cause what is enough then? Like, Oh, I could, I could, 0.95

01:19:56.780 yeah, I'd look better with 10 more pounds of muscle, more striations, maybe five more pounds

01:20:00.260 of muscle would make me happy. Like, no, it won't. But if maybe you have a wife and kids and you give

01:20:04.360 your strength for something worthwhile and you're thinking, I want to be around for the grandkids,

01:20:09.040 that's a different story. Yeah. Yeah. I think even with the, we, we talk about this in the book,

01:20:13.540 but the um the problem with women related to social media body image stuff where there's 0.89

01:20:20.340 always somebody prettier than you yeah and it's funny because men are like yeah dude that guy's

01:20:24.640 so ripped well anyway yeah on with my life on with my life but that pizza looks good you can

01:20:30.040 actually like the jonathan height studies uh especially on mental illness i think they said

01:20:34.600 if if a woman's friend has mental illness of some sort um her other friends are 142 percent more

01:20:41.900 likely to have it oh my gosh so you just even thinking through that like my wife and i have

01:20:46.200 talked about it and she said at one point in her life she was like i just don't even need to be on

01:20:49.880 instagram yeah like why am i on here totally all i really need is like for my husband every now and

01:20:55.240 then to send me like cute puppy reels so true and then i feel good about my day but they are

01:20:59.800 gonna be on instagram they should go check out our pages hey that's that is a good point actually

01:21:03.720 because we won't give you body dysmorphia no no we'll make you feel encouraged nobody will look

01:21:09.460 at like this and say, wow, I feel better, but I need to look prettier. Yeah, exactly. Um, so yeah,

01:21:17.660 best places for people to track the work you're doing. I know obviously Instagram, you can tell

01:21:22.300 us more about that, but also I've noticed you've had a lot of, uh, you've been speaking, you've

01:21:26.600 been doing a lot of conferences, stuff like that. Best place for people to follow along. Yeah,

01:21:30.500 they can go to my Instagram page. Um, they can also go to holy.health. It's W H O O or O L L Y

01:21:35.800 dot health um i work with uh josh axe and will cole they're part of the health institute in

01:21:40.440 nashville and so they added me to their team oh cool um so we that's where i do all my like um

01:21:46.060 clinical stuff with people nowadays and so we have a big team that can help people with that

01:21:50.140 otherwise instagram's a good place to find me anything else oh i also this is this is a plug

01:21:54.740 but one reason i just became a part owner in a skincare company because part of the reason i

01:22:00.480 always want to do that was the hormosa study showed that women that are applying all these

01:22:04.260 chemical products that are their skin all the time we're having huge hormonal issues and so

01:22:07.880 um if you remove that stuff it goes away pretty quick but i actually the company i've signed up

01:22:12.160 with is cypress renewal and they're a great christian-owned company a lot of the profits

01:22:16.400 go to bible translations across the world and so there's a cool group to be a part of so if you

01:22:20.000 want to buy skincare check them out cypress renewal otherwise yeah online it's a good place

01:22:23.760 to find me and is the best way to reach out uh like let's say a lady or husband that you're saying

01:22:29.020 like hey maybe we should talk to dr lake what's the best way to get a hold of you yeah if you so

01:22:33.680 If you go to that holy.health, and we can probably put the link down below, I'm guessing.

01:22:36.820 Yeah, absolutely.

01:22:37.540 People always get it wrong.

01:22:38.480 I shouldn't have spelled it like that. 0.99

01:22:40.240 They want H-O-L-Y.

01:22:41.520 Yeah, I was like, no, it's whole. 1.00

01:22:43.240 Holistic.

01:22:43.880 Yeah, anyway, but they can get a call with my team.

01:22:47.340 I'll give a free consultation for everyone that's watching this right now, so they can do that.

01:22:52.020 But yeah, that's probably the best way to do it.

01:22:53.400 Awesome.

01:22:54.080 It's been a great discussion.

01:22:55.160 Yeah, appreciate you guys.

01:22:56.060 I have like 10 million more questions.

01:22:57.820 Fortunately, if you're listening to this episode, we have a second episode.

01:23:00.780 part two we're going to talk about the history of how our medical system got to be what it is

01:23:05.180 john d rockefeller dale carnegie who'd have thunk it brian i know i i would never have thought any

01:23:12.360 of those people would be involved in anything bad never yeah never not at all dudes so catch

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The King's Hall - November 06, 2026

The Shocking History of the Birth Control Pill - W⧸ Dr. Austin Lake

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